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2015-11-04-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[00:31] <Unit193> Crawlspace = scary.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.764882
| 2015-11-04T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-ir
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[02:37] <hsn6> سلام
[09:57] <nima_> salam
[11:42] <ams__> salam, kasi mitone kimak kone?
[11:42] <ams__> kimak
[11:42] <ams__> komak
[22:03] <dashkalam> slm
[22:03] <dashkalam> man ye soal da morede tanzimat boot laptop baraye nasbe ububno dashtam
[22:03] <dashkalam> kasi j bede?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.772556
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-se
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[05:53] <nisse_> Tjena god morgon, undrar om någon har tips på ett program som har multi geasture support med gui, kubuntu egna har ej
[06:28] <Hund> Förväntade han sig verkligen svar på 4 min klockan 7 på morgonen? :D
[06:34] <Spookan> Mjo, vi sitter ju här 24/7 och kollar om någon behöver hjälp. :P
[06:34] <Hund> :D
[07:31] <Barre> men nu, Kaffe
[07:34] <Spookan> Barre: Låter som en bra ide..
[07:38] <recharge> Jag får väl käka mina två ostmackor till frukost som vanligt.
[07:38] <Barre> inget fel på ostmackor (beror ju i.o.f.s på vad det är för ost och vad det är för bröd, men rent generellt alltså)
[07:41] <recharge> nä, det kan vara riktigt gott.
[07:49] <Spookan> recharge: Värm dem i micron med lite ketchup på. ;)
[07:50] <recharge> en annan gång kanske Spookan :)
[07:50] <Spookan> Hehe
[07:51] <Spookan> Jag kör micrat kaffe, det sätter fart på magen. :P
[07:55] <recharge> Jag har ingen kaffebryggare och får jag kaffedrickande gäster som kommer så micrar jag vattnet och sedan i med pulver kaffe.
[07:56] <Spookan> recharge: Har du en kastrull?
[07:57] <recharge> jodå, men micro funkar smidigare. Det var ett tag som jag tänkte skaffa vattenkokare. Spookan
[07:58] <Spookan> recharge: Ok, för kaffet blir godare med spis kokt vatten, man får inte det att koka i micron va?
[07:58] <recharge> Spookan: vet faktiskt inte. Hmm nä, kokt blir det nog inte.
[12:04] <goopen> Någon som har koll på openvpn servers? Undrar om openvpn servern måste vara "gateway" i de nät man ansluter klienter till. Eller om jag kan lägga de på en server i de lokala "nätet".
[12:19] <andol> goopen: OpenVPN kan köras helt oberoende kring hur du routar.
[20:27] <Peyam> Salam, Det är jag farbror Peyam
[20:28] <Spookan> Jag har ingen fabror.
[20:28] <Peyam> rassit
[20:28] <Peyam> rasist
[20:29] <Spookan> Yes!
[20:32] <Peyam> Spookan, e det du som hackat min facebookkonto?
[20:33] <Spookan> Peyam: Nä, jag hackar bara lök.
[20:33] <Peyam> vf?
[20:34] <Spookan> Det är gott, vill inte vara svenne, vill lukta turk i mun.
[20:42] <Peyam> ohh
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.780329
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-ru
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[03:10] * R4nd0om1z3r meow
[03:10] <R4nd0om1z3r> äîáðîãî âðåìåíè ñöóòîê, åñòü êòî?
[03:10] <ubuntuhelp> R4nd0om1z3r! Please, use UTF-8 here. >>> How to configure: http://tinyurl.com/4qgpm3 or use Web Chat: http://ubuntu.ru/irc/webchat
[03:11] <R4nd0om1z3r> îê
[03:11] <R4nd0om1z3r> æèâûå åñòü?
[03:11] <ubuntuhelp> R4nd0om1z3r! Please, use UTF-8 here. >>> How to configure: http://tinyurl.com/4qgpm3 or use Web Chat: http://ubuntu.ru/irc/webchat
[03:13] <R4nd0om1z3r> надеюсь теперь эта железяка не будет ко мне приставать
[03:13] <andrex> ненадейся
[03:13] <R4nd0om1z3r> вроде перестала, кодировку поменял, перезапустилсо
[03:14] <R4nd0om1z3r> ну так вот
[03:14] <R4nd0om1z3r> о чём я?
[03:15] <R4nd0om1z3r> кто может помочь ламеру с установкой убунту рядом с виндой, при условии что в системе 3 харда, ссд и 2хдд, винда стоит на ссд, 1 хард файлопомойка, на 3ий хочу поставить убунту.
[03:16] <andrex> береш и размечаеш 3 тий винт и ставиш систему в чем проблема то?
[03:16] <R4nd0om1z3r> проблема в загрузчике, куда его прикручивать. винт то я разметил
[03:17] <andrex> на первый
[03:17] <R4nd0om1z3r> т.е. на ссдху?
[03:17] <andrex> да
[03:17] <R4nd0om1z3r> там где виндовые 100 метров загрузчика
[03:17] <R4nd0om1z3r> так?
[03:17] <andrex> на sda
[03:18] <R4nd0om1z3r> оке, в граб винда самому добавлять?
[03:18] <R4nd0om1z3r> винду*
[03:18] <andrex> cfvj jghtltkbncz
[03:18] <andrex> само определиться должно
[03:19] <R4nd0om1z3r> спасибо, сча попробую
[03:19] * R4nd0om1z3r ушло
[03:50] <r4nd0om1z3r> andrex тут?
[03:51] <r4nd0om1z3r> спасибо за помощь, сижу из под свежеустановленной 15.10
[03:52] <r4nd0om1z3r> но, прикол в том, что sda у меня терабайтник) только сейчас понял свою ошибку во время установки win7
[03:52] <r4nd0om1z3r> хдд снять све
[03:52] <r4nd0om1z3r> оставив только ссд. винда такая винда
[03:57] <andrex> ну видать у тебя просто в таком порядке стоят диски вот и все
[03:58] <andrex> можно просто переставить загрузчик на другой тока посмотреть как он завется в dev
[03:58] <andrex> !grub
[03:58] <ubuntuhelp> GRand Unified Bootloader — загрузчик операционной системы от проекта GNU. Подробная информация: http://goo.gl/vDq8V илиhttp://goo.gl/NWGM Boot-Repair: http://goo.gl/Jf9jfy
[06:50] <uneform_alex> Доброе утро
[06:53] <JohnDoe_71Rus> забрили?
[08:27] <tagezi> утра всем
[09:29] <uneform_alex> Доброго
[10:05] <SergeyIT> всякого
[10:06] <andrex> четатанама
[10:08] <oles_> а что для мипсов щас в репозиториях никаких тулчейнов нет ?
[10:09] <oles_> или бинутилзов хотябы
[10:09] <andrex> qemu
[10:10] <oles_> ну это не то очевидно
[10:11] <andrex> для крос компиляции самото
[10:11] <andrex> а если нет то фз)
[10:12] <oles_> странно что у дебиана есть пакет binutils-mips-linux-gnu
[10:12] <oles_> а у убунты нет
[10:34] <SergeyIT> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=binutils-mips-linux-gnu
[10:38] <oles_> SergeyIT, я так понимаю оно для версий начиная от 15.10
[10:39] <oles_> то есть только что появилось
[10:39] <SergeyIT> да, но можно же деб и в 14.04 поставить
[10:41] <oles_> SergeyIT, это не может не радовать
[10:41] <oles_> спасибо
[10:50] <SergeyIT> oles_, вот человек ставил http://sathisharada.blogspot.ru/
[10:52] <oles_> SergeyIT, у меня все зависло на обновлении метаинформации от этих реп
[10:53] <oles_> хотя может это изза прокси конечно..
[10:59] <uneform_alex> Дьявол. может кто сказать почему лидер в виртуализации выпускает такое "Г" для рабочего стола
[10:59] <uneform_alex> Я про vMware Work Station для Linux сейчас
[11:01] <oles_> uneform_alex, наверное потому же почему и многие другие вендоры =(
[11:08] <uneform_alex> Не знаю, поставил VirtualBox, работает на ура
[11:11] <oles_> uneform_alex, а что не работало то?
[11:34] <uneform_alex> В том то и дело. все работало, но время от времени повисало намертво
[14:35] <shama80> привет всем
[15:04] <R4nd0om1z3r> andrex если ты тут, благодарю за помощь вчера
[15:04] <R4nd0om1z3r> установился, запустился, доволен
[15:20] <SergeyIT> R4nd0om1z3r, а у тебя uefi ?
[15:42] <andrex> тут я тут, куды я денусь с подвойдной лодки то...
[15:43] <andrex> SergeyIT: да нет вроде просто 3 винта и он не мог понять куда ставить загрузчик) фигня вобщем
[15:50] <SergeyIT> я 8 лет загрузчик ставлю на диск с системой... их тогда вынимать можно спокойно. Дома 3 диска и 3 ОС
[15:57] <andrex> ну можно и так
[15:58] <andrex> и вобще выбирать загрузку чегото в бут менюхе биоса
[16:11] <uneform_alex> Про магическую клавишу F8 не забывайте, некоторые производители даже придерживаются этого стандарта
[16:11] <SergeyIT> зачем в биосе, груб же видит все ОС. Просто первый диск не с Вин. И переставлять Вин проще.
[16:13] <SergeyIT> uneform_alex, какие стандарты... у меня комп с флешки грузится не умеет (
[17:26] <uneform_alex> SergeyIT, печаль беда!
[17:42] <tagezi> это ещё почему?
[17:44] <uneform_alex> А как же классическая схема, где ядро Linux на Flesh карте, и вставляется только один раз, когда загружается :)
[17:45] <andrex> да лучше ваще тгда загрузчик на дискете ядро на перфокарте систем ваще ф опе гдето на микросхемах
[17:46] <andrex> и морской бой на кассете
[17:48] <tagezi> морской бой по памяти нужно при каждой загрузке забивать )
[17:48] <tagezi> andrex: неосилятор )
[17:49] <andrex> проще на листочке нарисавать
[17:49] <andrex> чем на асме морсой бой
[17:50] <tagezi> andrex: это не нашь метод... пасьянс тоде проще на столе разложить, но мы же мучаемся, можно сказать носилуем себя, раскладываем в компьютере )
[17:51] <andrex> не пасьянс в копьютере проще)
[17:51] <andrex> сордельки недают карты брать нормально
[18:00] <andrex> мне ту чел сказал что знает линь на 75 процентов) я аж афигел, сам торвальдс наверно незнает его даже на половину)
[18:01] <andrex> стока там хлама всюду накидали)
[18:03] <andrex> бедняшку наверно под страхом смерти заставили учить код ядра
[18:08] <uneform_alex> :)))
[18:08] <uneform_alex> Я просто представил эту картину
[18:11] <Sergey_IT> до 100500% еще далеко
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.797201
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-cat
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[19:47] <metallic_> Hola, tinc una petita qüestió que no sé molt bé com resoldre. A veure si em podeu ajudar. El que vull és filtrar la sortida de l'ordre «ifconfig» per a que només es mostri, per a cada interfície (wlans i eths): El nom de la interfície, la seva IPv4 i la seva màscara de xarxa.
[19:47] <metallic_> De moment he depurat això: http://paste.debian.net/331694/
[19:49] <metallic_> però continuar a partir d'aquí amb expressions regulars no em dóna una sortida estructurada. Tampoc crec que la comanda «cut» em serveixi de molt aquí...
[19:49] <metallic_> alguna idea?
[19:59] <metallic_> mmm... Una cosa que em podria servir és saber si les adreces MAC sempre tenen la mateixa longitud...
[20:21] <metallic_> doncs l'ordre «cut» m'ha salvat aquí al final XD
[20:21] <metallic_> ja ho he aconseguit
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.804764
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-il
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[10:44] <jetstation3-user> וויואלדי...
[10:45] <Ardethian> משום מה אני לא הכי סומך על החבר'ה שפיתחו את אופרה.
[10:45] <Ardethian> יש להם מוצר נחמד, אבל... לא.
[10:47] <Ardethian> והבחור צודק, בהחלט יש כאן דינוזאורים. בהשוואה לערוץ שהיה כאן לפני 5-6 שנים, אותם אנשים נשארו, פחות או יותר :P
[10:47] <Ardethian> רק שהכמות פחתה
[12:43] <who-me> :P
[12:44] <who-me> שלומית בונה סוכה או שלומית בון עסוקה?
[12:45] <who-me> אלה שני דברים שונים
[12:53] <tzafrir> שלומית, בֹאנה, עסוקה
[12:53] <who-me> בונה סוכה בלאט
[12:54] <tzafrir> אם אתה מתלונן על "דינוזאורים", אתה מוזמן לעדכן את הערך על אובונטו בוויקיפדיה העברית
[12:54] <tzafrir> (אבל אל תקטר)
[12:54] <tzafrir> Ardethian, ==^
[12:55] <who-me> צפריר, איך קוראים למוכר מכולת שפשט את הרגל?
[12:55] <who-me> חנוועני
[12:55] <Ardethian> מתלונן? אני?
[12:56] <Ardethian> סודו וחלילה.
[12:58] <who-me> לא מתלוננים, כולה שוטחים הערכת מצב
[13:43] <gzoo> good day
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.810484
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-on-air
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[00:42] <Tont> How far are we from a truely integradated one device for everything?
[00:57] <Tont> "How far are we from a truely integradated one device for everything?"
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.812548
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-it
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[07:23] <Adry8080> Salve volevo sapere se per mx4 ubuntu si può aggiornare a 15.10 e come grazie
[07:25] <akis24> Adry8080: spiega meglio che versione hai al momento ?
[07:26] <Adry8080> Sul meizu MX4 ubuntu editin la versione 15.04
[07:28] <akis24> Adry8080: non saprei riguardo allo smartphone ma di solito gli avanzamenti di versione se disponibili li segnala il sistema dal gestore degli aggiornamenti
[07:29] <akis24> Adry8080: se hai il gestore degli aggiornamenti aprilo e verifica se viene indicata la possibilita' di avanzare di versione
[07:30] <Adry8080> sono uno dei pochi che le la e volevo sapere perché sul PC ho la verzione 15.10 e volevo sapere grazie comunque
[07:31] <akis24> Adry8080: sul pc è diverso che sullo smartphone ..
[07:32] <Adry8080> e si ma avendo il terminale pure sul telefono credevo che dovevo inserire qualche formula
[07:33] <akis24> Adry8080: no aspetta che sia disponibile ..
[07:45] <Adry8080> Sono tornato akis24
[07:47] <Adry8080> per il Mx4 ubuntu aggiornamento a versione 15.10
[07:53] <akis24> Adry8080: io starei attento comunque leggi qui http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=600145
[07:56] <akis24> !chat | Adry8080
[07:56] <ubot-it> Adry8080: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[11:58] <pam> #crx
[11:58] <pam> join #crx
[13:02] <lagigia> ciao! buongiorno a tutti!
[13:03] <lagigia> c'è qualcuno che mi può dare qualche consiglio sull'installazione di ubuntu su un asus transfomer?
[13:04] <krabador> lagigia, puoi indicare il modello preciso?
[13:05] <lagigia> asus t100t
[13:07] <krabador> lagigia, è un device problematico
[13:10] <lagigia> immaginavo
[13:10] <krabador> lagigia, puoi provare a scaricare la iso 64 bit di ubuntu, formattare una pendrive, scaricare universal usb installer, scaricare il bootloader modificato
[13:10] <lagigia> per il tablet?
[13:10] <lagigia> siamo già oltre le mie possiblità
[13:10] <lagigia> direi che in autonomia faccio un po' fatica a sto punto
[13:10] <ExPBoy> lagigia, se vuoi un consiglio tienitelo così come è
[13:11] <krabador> metterlo nella cartella efi/boot
[13:11] <krabador> cercare di farlo partire in boot
[13:22] <akenobis> come risolvo con la chiavetta per internet con lubuntu
[13:24] <ExPBoy> akenobis, non viene riconosciuta?
[13:24] <akenobis> no
[13:24] <ExPBoy> nemmeno come memoria di massa?
[13:25] <akenobis> come memoria di massa si
[13:25] <ExPBoy> akenobis, prova averificare se ci sono i driver per linux all'interno
[13:26] <akenobis> ok
[13:27] <akenobis> non ci sono
[13:27] <ExPBoy> eh
[13:27] <ExPBoy> allora non so che dirti
[13:28] <krabador> akenobis, formatta fat32
[13:28] <krabador> !usbwin | akenobis
[13:28] <ubot-it> akenobis: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[13:28] <krabador> assicurati di aver selezionato il parametro giusto da bios
[13:29] <ExPBoy> scusa krabador forse hai letto male si tratta di chiavetta internet
[13:29] <krabador> ok, modello , e lsusb, di grazia...
[13:31] <ExPBoy> ecco
[13:31] <krabador> manca la sincerità... sono tempi strani
[14:03] <lagigia> ExPBoy perchè?
[14:05] <lagigia> vorrei che recuperasse un po' di prestanza, che fosse immune ai virus etc!
[15:32] <noob95> Buongiorno a tutti, sono tornato dopo aver risolto il mio problema di ieri.
[15:32] <noob95> Ho montato Xubuntu 15.04 e funziona tutto perfettamente
[15:32] <akis24> noob95: se hai risolto .. sei a posto
[15:32] <noob95> Ora però il problema è la luminosità. I tasti FN
[15:33] <noob95> funzionano perfettamente, ma anche se modifico il file grub con "acpi_backlight=vendor" oppure con "acpi_osi=Linux"
[15:33] <noob95> la luminosità non si modifica (anche se la barra della luminosità sale e scende sia da impostazioni sia da tasti fn)
[15:34] <akis24> noob95: modello portatile ?
[15:34] <noob95> Toshiba Satellite L750D-1G8
[15:35] <noob95> APU A8 con scheda grafica Radeon HD 6420
[15:38] <akis24> noob95: non saprei aiutarti
[15:39] <noob95> akis24: ti ringrazio lo stesso per l'aiuto! Spero che qualcun altro sappia dirmi qualcosa.. E' una cosa un po' snervante considerando il consumo consistente di batteria in luminosità sempre alta
[15:40] <akis24> noob95: riprova piu' tardi magari qualcuno puo' aiutarti
[15:40] <noob95> akis24: Grazie mille! A più tardi allora :)
[15:42] <sus> ciao, posso fare una domanda?
[15:43] <akis24> sus: se riguarda ubuntu si certo
[15:44] <sus> stavo installando i driver proprietari di nvidia, mi da un problema con nouveau
[15:45] <akis24> sus: installavi come ? da dove ?
[15:45] <sus> ho eseguito il .run del driver scaricato dal sito di nvidia
[15:46] <akis24> sus: i driver nvidia vanno installati dai repo ufficiali " menu impostazioni → driver aggiuntivi
[15:48] <sus> ah..
[15:48] <sus> beh ma ormai ho fatto cosi
[15:48] <akis24> sus: male ti tocca rimuoverli e poi reinstallarli usando la procedura che ti ho detto
[15:48] <sus> mi ha cambiato un file dentro modproble.d
[15:49] <sus> ma nouveau non agisce sul kernel
[15:49] <sus> ?
[15:50] <akis24> !nvidia | sus
[15:50] <ubot-it> sus: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Video/Nvidia
[15:55] <sus> quindi disinstallo nouveau , reboot, e lo reinstallo per poi scaricare da driver aggiuntivi_
[15:55] <sus> giusto?
[15:56] <akis24> sus: prima dovresti eliminare quanto hai installato
[15:56] <sus> non credo abbia installato niente di nvidia, se vuoi ti do il log
[15:56] <sus> fdell'errore
[15:57] <akis24> sus: mettilo su paste vediamo
[15:57] <akis24> !paste | sus
[15:57] <ubot-it> sus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[15:58] <akis24> sus: niente pvt scrivi in canale
[15:58] <sus> non ci riesco kappa
[15:59] <akis24> sus: il log come ti ho scritto mettilo su paste e poi posta il link della pagina
[16:00] <sus> paste.ubuntu.com/13228150/
[16:00] <sus> fantastico xd
[16:01] <akis24> sus: sembra non abbia fatto danni installa come ti ho indicato prima
[16:02] <sus> nvidia mi ha cambiato un file dentro modprobe.d , insdtallo comunque?=
[16:03] <akis24> sus: apri il terminale e dai sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current e metti sempre su paste
[16:06] <sus> dice che non ho il pacchetto
[16:08] <akis24> sus: posta il contenuto di modprobe.d e ti ripeto ancora posta... devo vedere anche io
[16:09] <sus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13228242/
[16:10] <sus> il nome del file e' nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau
[16:12] <akis24> sus: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf restituisce qualcosa ?
[16:13] <sus> file o directory non esistente
[16:15] <akis24> sus: echo 'nouveau' | sudo tee -a / etc / modules
[16:15] <sus> ho uno xorg.conf.d
[16:15] <akis24> sus: lascia stare e fai quanto scritto
[16:16] <sus> esce nouveau
[16:17] <akis24> sus riavvia e poi installi i driver seguendo la procedura indicata
[16:18] <sus> quindi il file che mi ha messo l'installatore diu nvidia posso ignorarlo_
[16:18] <sus> ?
[16:18] <akis24> sus si ora ignoralo al limite dopo installando i driver ufficiali sara' disabilitato automaticamente al riavvio
[16:18] <sus> mhh
[16:21] <sus> mi continua a dare il problema del nouveau... non me li fa installare
[16:21] <akis24> sus: e quando li avresti disinstallati i nouveau ?
[16:22] <sus> non li ho disinstallati, ma i driver proprietari hanno questo conflitto con il nouveau
[16:24] <akis24> sus: l'ultimo comando che hai eseguito forza il sistema a usare i nouveau ad ogni modo puoi commentare #blacklist nouveau come vedi oltre non saprei dirti
[16:24] <sus> puo essere che non mi riconosca il chip grafico
[16:24] <sus> ?
[16:24] <sus> e per questo non installi i driver?
[16:24] <krabador> sus dal latino?
[16:25] <akis24> sus: sono presenti i driver non sono disinstallati di solito quando si installano nvida vengono messi in blacklist per evitare conflitti
[16:25] <akis24> nvidia*
[16:25] <akis24> sus: comunque krabador è un esperto di sistema ..
[16:25] <sus> dici che secondo te puo aiutarmi_
[16:26] <akis24> ehhh altroche' molto meglio di me sus
[16:26] <sus> asd ;\
[16:26] <sus> grazie comunque
[16:27] <sus> krabador posso chiederti una mano?
[16:27] <krabador> sus, NVIDIA-Linux-quellochesia.run --uninstall
[16:27] <krabador> nella cartella in cui ce l'hai
[16:27] <krabador> da terminale
[16:27] <sus> asd
[16:27] <krabador> eh
[16:27] <krabador> sus, non ti conviene fare supposizioni con un sistema che non conosci
[16:28] <sus> in che senso?
[16:28] <krabador> nell'unico senso che ha la frase.
[16:29] <sus> io non ho fatto supposizioni
[16:30] <krabador> sus, beh, scaricare software eseguirlo, senza sapere che il sistema ha l'equivalente pacchettizzato installabile dalle risorse ufficiali... è fare supposizioni , e pesanti
[16:31] <sus> mi spiace..
[16:31] <krabador> il sistema è tuo.
[16:33] <sus> non c'e' il pacchetto installato, prima di tutto lo script per l'installazione mi diceva che avrebbe modificato un file per la blacklist di nouveau
[16:33] <krabador> sus, hai cancellato il run che hai mandato?
[16:34] <sus> non ho cncellato il file del driver ma non ce l'ho installato
[16:34] <krabador> sus, e cosa hai fatto ?
[16:35] <sus> il comando che mi hai dato era per la disinstallazione del .run del driver nvidia
[16:35] <krabador> sus, senti
[16:35] <krabador> non metterti a rimescolare carte
[16:35] <krabador> hai mandato o no , il run scaricato dal sito ?
[16:35] <sus> si
[16:36] <krabador> se vuoi assistenza, devi essere preciso nel segnalare cosa hai fatto, e cosa ti si suggerisce di fare
[16:36] <sus> ok ci provo
[16:36] <krabador> sus, allora manda il comando che ti ho chiesto
[16:36] <krabador> sus, non c'è da provare
[16:36] <krabador> ma da leggere
[16:36] <sus> non c'e'
[16:36] <sus> perche prima di installarmelo
[16:36] <krabador> se puo' essere un problema, chiedi , o fatti affiancare da un amico
[16:36] <sus> mi dava un errore di conflitto con nouveau
[16:37] <sus> e non cme lo ha installato per questo
[16:37] <krabador> sus, e cosa è successo dopo "l'errore di conflitto con nouveau" ?
[16:38] <sus> sono andato a guardare il log, perche e' cio che m diceva di fare lo script e il risultato e' questo paste.ubuntu.com/13228150/
[16:39] <krabador> per mandare il run, bisogna chiudere il server grafico
[16:40] <krabador> non si puo' mandare semplicemente dal terminale del sistema operativo
[16:40] <sus> ah ok
[16:40] <krabador> sus, allo stato attuale, qual'è il problema
[16:42] <sus> non posso installare i driver proprietari, ho un file dentro modprobe.d che eà stato modificato
[16:44] <krabador> sus, e cosa stai intendendo adesso per driver proprietari
[16:44] <sus> quelli di nvidia
[16:44] <krabador> sus,
[16:44] <krabador> sveglia
[16:44] <krabador> il run
[16:44] <krabador> o quelli proposti dal sistema operativo?
[16:44] <sus> il run
[16:45] <sus> che e' lo stesso del sistema operativo
[16:45] <krabador> sus, allora non credo che tu abbia capito
[16:45] <krabador> è sconsigliato ufficialmente installare in ubuntu il run scaricato dal sito
[16:45] <sus> in ogni caso mi da lo stesso problema, pèer questo lho scaricato
[16:46] <krabador> in quanto ubuntu ha delle personalizzazioni che necessitano dei pacchetti creati apposta, per i driver nvidia, dagli sviluppatori
[16:46] <krabador> "<sus> in ogni caso mi da lo stesso problema" non ho la palla di vetro
[16:46] <krabador> se non parli non so
[16:46] <krabador> non so se mi spiego
[16:46] <sus> sisi
[16:46] <krabador> sus, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:47] <sus> poi_
[16:47] <krabador> sus, il run in ogni caso , quando incontra intoppi nell'installazione, come per esempio la sessione di Xorg attiva, va in errore e non fa modifiche al sistema
[16:48] <sus> ah, ma ha modificato il file modprobe
[16:48] <sus> cioe' dentro modprobe.d
[16:48] <krabador> ls -la /etc/modprobe.d/ | pastebinit
[16:48] <sus> ha modificato un file
[16:48] <krabador> incolla il link risultante.
[16:49] <sus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13228242/
[16:50] <krabador> sus, prendi per il culo?
[16:50] <krabador> manda il comando che ti ho dato
[16:51] <sus> mi da un errore di api
[16:53] <krabador> sus, torna quando hai voglia di seguire indicazioni
[16:53] <Uzzi> ciao a tutti. Sto configurando ubuntu 15.10 con bumblebee per una nvidia 610M. tuattavia X non parte perchè sembra mi faccia casino coi monitor. modificando Xorg.conf e mettendo come Screen0 intel e inactive nvidia in ServerLayout al riavvio mi rimette il contrario.
[16:55] <sus> scusa ma non sono molto pratico, eseguendo il comando che mi dai mi da un errore bad api request
[16:56] <krabador> sus, hai installato o no pastebinit ?
[16:56] <sus> si
[16:56] <krabador> che sistema stai usando?
[16:57] <sus> ubuntu gnome 3
[16:58] <krabador> sus, sudo apt-get install curl
[16:58] <krabador> comman | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw
[16:58] <krabador> ls -la /etc/modprobe.d/ | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw
[16:58] <krabador> l'ultimo
[16:58] <krabador> non il penultimo
[17:03] <sus> done
[17:03] <krabador> incolla il link risultante
[17:03] <sus> https://www.ptpb.pw/8Arp
[17:04] <krabador> sus, sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf
[17:05] <sus> ok
[17:05] <krabador> sus, ubuntu gnome , quale 14.04 , 15.10 ?
[17:05] <krabador> sus, sveglia, non ho tutta la ntote
[17:05] <krabador> *notte
[17:06] <sus> 15.10
[17:07] <sus> il file viene generato al riavvio per caso?
[17:07] <krabador> no, niente viene generato da niente
[17:07] <krabador> sus, sudo lshw -C video | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw
[17:08] <krabador> incolla sempre il link
[17:08] <sus> aspetta
[17:08] <sus> mhh credo di aver capito il problema
[17:10] <krabador> sus, senti, non si sta qui a perdere tempo con le paturnie degli utenti, sto seguendo una linea
[17:10] <krabador> se non hai intenzione di seguirla, chiedi ad altri, o te ne vai
[17:11] <sus> ho capito, vi ringrazio per il tempo
[17:12] <sus> non so cosa una persona inesperta possa aver fatto per meritarsi questo, il fatto che voglia imparare non credo meriti questo atteggiamento, anyway gl
[17:12] <sus> e grazie ancora di tutto
[17:13] <krabador> sus, il tuo atteggiamento non è proprio quello di chi vuole imparare
[17:13] <sus> no?
[17:13] <krabador> ma dissimulatorio, nella richiesta d'assistenza
[17:13] <krabador> un conto è chiedere informazioni , un conto è rimescolare le carte in tavola confondendo chi sta fornendo assistenza
[17:13] <krabador> questo canale ha il log, puoi tranquillamente andare a rileggere cio' che hai scritto
[17:15] <sus> se sono confuso io come faccio ad essere chiaro
[17:39] <bobby> sera a tutti, qualcuno puo aiutarmi con il comando dd?
[17:39] <krabador> !chat | bobby
[17:39] <ubot-it> bobby: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:39] <bobby> scusate sbaglio mio, pensavo andasse bene anche qui
[18:33] <rodri86> Buonasera a tutti
[18:33] <krabador> !ciao | rodri86
[18:33] <ubot-it> rodri86: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[18:33] <rodri86> potrei chiedere delle info riguardo un problema che ho?
[18:34] <krabador> se il problema riguarda ubuntu, chiedi quello che ti pare a riguardo
[18:34] <krabador> questo canale è qui apposta
[18:37] <rodri86> Si, grazie mille. Premetto che sono un neofita e non conosco bene linux e ubuntu. Ho appena installato lubuntu 15.10 su un hp compaq 6720s. Il problema è che non mi da connessione internet, ne tramite cavo ne tramite wifi. Suppongo sia un problema di driver, come posso fare per risolvere?
[18:38] <krabador> rodri86, apri il terminale sudo lshw -C network
[18:38] <krabador> rodri86, salvi il contenuto in un file di testo, di cui fai un pastebin da una macchina connessa,ed incolli qui il link
[18:38] <krabador> !pastebin
[18:38] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[18:45] <rodri86> ok ho fatto tutto. come lo allego il pastebin? (scusate l'ignoranza cosmica)
[18:46] <rodri86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13230051/
[18:46] <krabador> rodri86, beh, non ci sono problemi all'hardware di rete...
[18:47] <krabador> rodri86, attacca il cavo lan, manda ifconfig, stessa cosa
[18:47] <krabador> rodri86, manda pure iwconfig
[18:54] <rodri86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13230146/ - iw config
[18:55] <rodri86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13230155/ - ip config
[18:56] <rodri86> scusate, ho cambiato cavo lan e ora il pc cn ubuntu si è connesso a internet, però mi da ancora problemi il wifi
[19:00] <krabador> rodri86, con il cavo lan attaccato, digita software-properties-gtk
[19:01] <krabador> vai nell'ultima tab a destra, e dimmi cosa appare
[19:02] <rodri86> "no additional drivers available"
[19:04] <krabador> rodri86, da quando hai installato non hai mai collegato ad internet ?
[19:04] <rodri86> adesso è stato il primo tentativo riuscito. prima non mi faceva connettere, in nessun modo
[19:04] <krabador> rodri86, allora sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:05] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:05] <krabador> sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[19:06] <krabador> rodri86, lspci -nn -d 14e4: | pastebinit
[19:09] <rodri86> al momento sto facendo un software upadate.. appena finisce faccio tutto
[19:09] <krabador> rodri86, il secondo e terzo comando si occupavano di quello
[19:09] <krabador> in modo da monitorizzare il risultato e
[19:10] <krabador> e vedere se c'erano problemi
[19:10] <krabador> rodri86, cerca di non prendere iniziative, se chiedi supporto
[19:13] <rodri86> ok scusate
[19:13] <krabador> ormai...
[19:13] <krabador> alla fine degli aggiornamenti , se si concludono senza errori, riavvia, vedi se hai problemi
[19:15] <rodri86> fatto. continua a non funzionare il wifi. eseguo quei comandi e posto tutto
[19:15] <krabador> rodri86, magari evita l'aggiornamento
[19:15] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:15] <krabador> sorry
[19:15] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:15] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:16] <krabador> lspci -nn -d 14e4: | pastebinit
[19:16] <krabador> iwconfig | pastebinit
[19:16] <rodri86> li posso fare consecutivamente e postare tutto in un unica soluzione o li devo fare one by one?
[19:16] <krabador> rodri86, magari mescolali pure col mestolo
[19:16] <krabador> rodri86, uno alla volta
[19:17] <krabador> e da sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:25] <rodri86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13230432/
[19:25] <rodri86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13230441/
[19:26] <rodri86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13230446/
[19:26] <rodri86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13230450/
[19:38] <Ab3L> ciao. non riesco a chiudere vlc. ho provato da shell col comando "kill 4189" ma l'applicazione mi rimane aperta (ho due processi vlc in corso, il 4189 e il 3466, ma nessuno dei due vuole chiudersi). Mi dareste dei consigli, senza dover riavviare il pc?
[19:40] <caveat-> Ab3L: kill -9 PID
[19:41] <Ab3L> ecco. grazie caveat-
[19:41] <Ab3L> facevo -s 15 al posto di -9
[19:43] <krabador> rodri86, software-properties-gtk, menu a tendina "scarica da" seleziona i principali internazionali
[19:44] <krabador> chiudi la finestra , torna sul terminale, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:49] <krabador> rodri86, lspci -nn -d 14e4: | pastebinit ---> con precisione, esattamente come lo vedi
[19:50] <rodri86> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13230702/
[19:52] <krabador> rodri86, sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[19:53] <rodri86> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13230748/
[19:54] <krabador> rodri86, senti
[19:54] <krabador> è la terza volta che te lo mando quel comando
[19:54] <krabador> li vuoi mettere i : o no?
[19:55] <krabador> lspci -nn -d 14e4: | pastebinit ---> lo devi ESATTAMENTE mandare COSÌ .
[19:59] <rodri86> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13230832/
[20:00] <rodri86> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13230834/
[20:02] <krabador> rodri86, rfkill list | pastebinit
[20:04] <krabador> rodri86, va a verificare se il router a cui ti connetti , è impostato su 802.11N
[20:06] <rodri86> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13230913/
[20:08] <rodri86> si è impostato su quello
[20:08] <krabador> rodri86, impostalo su "auto "
[20:09] <krabador> o g
[20:19] <rodri86> scusami ma non ci riesco. sono sulle impsotazioni del modem.
[20:41] <rodri86> Grazie comunque dell'aiuto. Provo a risolvere in altro modo. Una buona serata a tutti
[20:42] <krabador> rodri86, dipende dal firmware del modem, va nella sezione del wifi
[20:42] <krabador> rodri86, hai 14e4:4315 rev 01 , che da problemi in corrispondenza di 802.11N
[20:43] <krabador> nel momento in cui imposti un'altra modalità e da ancora problemi , si puo' solo tentare un'altro driver
[20:43] <krabador> rodri86, puoi vedere http://askubuntu.com/a/60395
[20:43] <krabador> a riguardo
[20:44] <rodri86> ok Grazie mille
[20:45] <krabador> rodri86, leggi BROADCOM WIRELESS TABLE
[20:47] <rodri86> ok grazie. vediamo se riesco
[21:21] <cristian_c> #linux-rockchip
[21:21] <krabador> buaahahahah
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-es
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[01:12] <kk-kk> hola, tengo una pregunta existe alguna aplicación, similar a esas llamadas aplicaciones handler que hay para android, pero disponible para linux, o algún método para hacerlo lo mismo?
[01:12] <GridCube> kk-kk, handler?
[01:13] <kk-kk> si, como por ejempro el opera mini handler
[01:14] <GridCube> no tengo ni idea
[01:35] <kk-kk> hay alguna forma de hacer creer a mi proveedor de internet, que me estoy conectado a cierta pagina especifica, cuando en realidad no es así?
[18:22] <mefista> l
[23:11] <mefista> closing imap connection
[23:11] <mefista> mensaje al abrir vmail
[23:11] <mefista> k puede ser
[23:19] <mefista> y me dice bye
[23:48] <yoelis> Hola por aca
[23:48] <yoelis> perdonen las molestias
[23:49] <yoelis> alguien me puede ayudar. es que instale ubuntu en la laptop pero no hay forma ni de que apague ni que reinicie se queda como suspendida y tengo ue apagar por el boton dejandolo apretado.
[23:50] <yoelis> alguna idea?
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-us-wi
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[03:31] <tsimonq2> h00k: ping
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2015-11-11-#juju
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[02:56] <Prabakaran> Hi Team,
[02:59] <Prabakaran> My new charm is not getting reflected in the review queue. It has been more than a week even though my charm is not reflecting under review queue. Below are the details. Branch : https://code.launchpad.net/~ibmcharmers/charms/trusty/ibm-platform-rtm/trunk Bug Link is : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ibmcharms/+bug/1510216
[02:59] <mup> Bug #1510216: New Charm: IBM Platform RTM <IBM Charms:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510216>
[03:00] <Prabakaran> Hi Mup Pet, Please advise on this.
[11:41] <ionutbalutoiu> Hey! Does somebody know by any chance why the icon is not shown in charm store for this charm: https://jujucharms.com/u/cloudbaseit/ironic/trusty/10 ?
[14:02] <sto> jamespage: I've found my problem (non deployment of dhcp server on neutron-gateway); I was deploying neutron-gateway and nova-compute on the same host, and one charm was overwritting the other...
[14:05] <sto> jamespage: anyway, now I have my deployment and found this bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1272572) on my cinder deployment, and the fix is the same (add a [keymgr] section to /etc/cinder/cinder.conf) ... I guess it has to be added to the cinder charm?
[14:05] <sto> Should I report a bug?
[15:59] <jose> arosales // arosales_ : ping
[16:00] <arosales_> jose, hello
[16:00] <jose> arosales_: hey, so Ubuntu is applying as an organization for Google Code-In, and we can publish Juju tasks for students to help us reduce some workload
[16:01] <jose> arosales_: my question is, would it be feasible to give a temporary key to those students to the AWS account we have in order for them to review stuff and develop new charms?
[16:02] <jose> I think that would encourage a lot of participation on their side, since cloud expenses can be expensive
[16:02] <marcoceppi> jose: all of them should just sign up for developer.juju.solutions
[16:02] <marcoceppi> we can give them all creds to work on juju
[16:03] <jose> marcoceppi: that's amazing, thanks!
[16:03] <arosales_> marcoceppi, jose: +1 to anyone applying for charm dev time @ developer.juju.solutions
[16:04] <arosales_> open to anyone doing charm dev work
[16:04] <jose> great!
[16:04] <jose> I'll email the list soon about what it is and how we can publish tasks
[16:04] <arosales_> jose, also encourage folks you know working on those tasks to pop in here, on the list, and during office hours
[16:05] <jose> will do - contest will run starting on Dec and finishing by the end of Jan, so expect to see a bit of a pike on activity there
[16:07] <arosales_> jose, do you have a link?
[16:07] <jose> arosales_: codein.withgoogle.com
[16:07] <arosales_> jose, also do you need help compiling a lit of tasks?
[16:08] <marcoceppi> lazypower: my live stream video got removed in some countries because of your mix :(
[16:08] <jose> arosales_: not right now - we're on the process of finishing our application (reg closes in 1h!) and if we get approved we can then gather some tasks
[16:08] <lazypower> marcoceppi : I'm not surprised.
[16:08] <lazypower> copyright law is draconian
[16:14] <arosales_> jose, ok - thanks for applying
[18:19] <gnuoy> jamespage, https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charm-helpers/exlude-no-openstack-origin/+merge/277005 has been up for a few days if you get a moment
[19:49] <marcoceppi> stub: hey, does your postgresql rewrite also work on precise?
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2015-11-11-#xubuntu
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[10:15] <r00d> anyone succes install virtualbox ?
[10:16] <knome> r00d, why not ask the real question about your problem?
[10:16] <mrkramps> several times, yes
[10:34] <r00d> i have problem like this http://s12.postimg.org/7mikz2wp9/Screenshot_2222_17_16_45.png
[10:34] <akxwi_dave> same here, infact this version of xubuntu I am on is on Virtual box
[10:37] <r00d> anyone have have problem like that ?
[10:37] <rinse_and_repeat> r00d i hate to ask the obvious but did you try to run said command as root?
[10:41] <r00d> rinse_and_repeat , yah, i run as root but error like that
[10:43] <r00d> if install have error "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.19.0-33-generic (x86_64)"
[11:12] <wiredfool> I'm running xubuntu 14.04, was wondering if there was a snap to thirds command/key combo. Not finding it in google. I've got the left/right/top/bottom halfs going, but thirds would be better on the big monitor.
[11:14] <mrkramps> wiredfool, there is not
[11:15] <mrkramps> but you may set up a script solution with wmctrl
[11:30] <xubuntu34w> hola
[11:31] <xubuntu34w> alguien me puede ayudar con el wine
[11:31] <xubuntu34w> hi
[11:32] <xubuntu34w> i need help with wine
[11:34] <xubuntu34w> hello
[11:45] <wiredfool> mrkramps: wmctrl looks like it would get part of the way there
[11:47] <wiredfool> but it's missing a couple of bits, like frontmost or focused window, and it looks like I'd need to get the screen size elsewhere.
[11:47] <wiredfool> probably would have to get the screen sizes from xrandr
[16:37] <ben___> yo
[16:38] <ben___> im just installing atm
[16:38] <ben___> for the first time
[16:38] <ben___> what can i expect?
[16:38] <ben___> I thought this was gonna be a shitty fork at first but my friend showed me his desktop and it looks amazing
[16:51] <sparr> the network manager tool keeps forgetting the password to my wifi. it remembers for 5-10 connections, then randomly I find it asking again when I connect, after which it refuses to remember until I go manually edit the connection details while offline. How can I stop this?
[17:05] <bytesaber> what governs xfce wallpaper and background color/gradient? I replaced my old user home dir, rebooted. All my icons and settings were back, but my wallpaper and gradient were stock.
[19:09] * xubuntu160 slaps bytesaber around a bit with a large fishbot
[20:15] <Orioa> would anyone have any suggestions on how i can fix an issue
[20:16] <mrkramps> Orioa, pretty much depends on the issue …
[20:16] <Orioa> everytime i disable my onboard monitor i get a funky block near my mouse
[20:16] <mrkramps> graphics card and driver in use?
[20:17] <Orioa> nvidia is the card and yes the driver is being used
[20:18] <mrkramps> sry, want to know which driver is in use. nvidia or nouveau?
[20:22] <Orioa> nvidia
[20:24] <Orioa> nvidia legacy binary driver-version 304.128 from nvidia-304(proprietary tested)
[20:25] <mrkramps> Orioa, from what i read you can try using a different driver version, another cursor theme or try using the nvidia driver with SWCursor
[20:26] <mrkramps> seems to bee some kind or more or less common issue with the nvidia driver in the last years
[20:26] <Orioa> k ty
[20:30] <Orioa> be back in a few
[21:07] <Orioa> i changed the driver i think maybe that was the issue
[23:49] <xubuntu97d> can we upgrade i didn't succede
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-uk
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[00:23] <jimmy_will> Howdy all o/
[00:23] <daftykins> hi
[00:26] <diddledan> moobs
[00:34] <daftykins> well this is rude, my new disk enclosure has started to be ignored by my xbox one
[00:34] <daftykins> directhex: you used any external storage with yours?
[00:37] <diddledan> daftykins, it's broke - like I said many times, you attract dead disks
[01:11] <zmoylan-pi> and if you plug the external drive into any other system does it work? or does xbox demand some wacky format that only works on xbox?
[01:18] * diddledan plugs his in
[01:18] <diddledan> oh, wait, disks
[01:18] <diddledan> ignore me
[01:19] <diddledan> this is why chanops need to sleep so that I can get away with norties
[01:21] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: they use funky modifications to a standard GPT to stop PCs reading them outright
[01:21] <zmoylan-pi> you can always use rude words from other languages... sassenach... :-)
[01:21] <daftykins> a helpful UK chap is helping me hexedit the drive based on my disk dumps of the first 1MB :D
[01:22] <diddledan> daftykins, I'll bet that weird loonicks thing can read them
[01:22] <diddledan> eep
[01:22] <daftykins> that's what i'm using ;) but no it can't
[01:22] <diddledan> hexediting is evil at the best of times
[01:22] <zmoylan-pi> oooooh, using norton disk util to read someones docs from a wonky disk.... that takes me back...
[01:22] <diddledan> dang
[01:23] <diddledan> I helped a dude work out what a long-lost game was that he had a photo of himself playing as a kid earlier: https://twitter.com/diddledan/status/664203318378516480
[01:23] <zmoylan-pi> if windows can't read it, then it's some wacky half assed ms layer on top of ntfs deliberately to make xbox look super duper
[01:24] <diddledan> I wonder if they just have the filesystem without a partition table?
[01:25] <diddledan> it might also be ReFS or Storage Spaces which I don't think linux can handle yet
[01:29] <diddledan> somethings tweeting outside
[01:29] <diddledan> or chirping
[01:29] <daftykins> well i plugged a second disk in and installed halo5 to it, brought it up and my linux lappy read from the backup GPT just fine from it
[01:29] <daftykins> so there's a quirk with my first drive
[04:11] <diddledan> so wily doesn't like my ms surface tablet :-p
[04:12] <diddledan> it hangs shortly after booting
[04:12] <diddledan> as in hard hang, not a crash
[04:14] <daftykins> that fellow is cunning, we got it working by mounting the partition with losetup and an offset
[04:14] <daftykins> skipping the partition tables entirely
[04:14] <diddledan> \o/
[04:14] <daftykins> aww no wily surfaces for you sir!
[04:14] <diddledan> I guess I should just put my wily away :-(
[04:16] <daftykins> i think it best
[04:16] <daftykins> you know what the neighbours would say
[07:46] <mapp> hi
[07:52] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:50] <MooDoo> morning everyone
[09:20] <diplo> Morning all
[09:22] <bittin> Morning
[09:35] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:36] <bashrc_> morning
[09:42] <jimmy_will> Morning
[09:49] <davmor2> bit of 4 non blonds stuck in my head this morning
[09:55] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Armistice Day! 😃
[10:09] <jimmy_will> Ahh~
[10:09] <jimmy_will> Armistice Day!
[10:10] <arsenip> oh my
[10:10] <arsenip> i should definitely remove my 'jimmy' highlight :D
[10:10] <foobarry> heh
[10:11] <jimmy_will> foobarry
[10:11] <foobarry> you called?
[10:11] <jimmy_will> i remember you
[10:11] <foobarry> you do?
[10:11] <foobarry> from when?
[10:11] <jimmy_will> long long ago
[10:11] <foobarry> childhood?
[10:12] <arsenip> before the delorian came forward.
[10:12] <jimmy_will> maybe years ago
[10:12] <foobarry> i change my irc nick each year
[10:12] <jimmy_will> no
[10:12] <jimmy_will> maybe this year then
[10:12] <arsenip> xD
[10:12] <foobarry> last week?
[10:12] <popey> today?
[10:12] <jimmy_will> no i cant remember when
[10:12] <foobarry> could have been my friend foobarbaz?
[10:12] <popey> he's a dodgy one
[10:13] <jimmy_will> but it is long ago
[10:13] <foobarry> i was once mungojerry
[10:13] <popey> \o/ new phone has finally arrived in the uk
[10:13] <jimmy_will> it was ...
[10:14] <foobarry> the irc stats page is gone
[10:15] * popey pokes brobostigon
[10:15] <foobarry> the domain is fone
[10:15] <foobarry> gone
[10:15] <popey> i still see it
[10:15] <popey> but webserver down
[10:16] <jimmy_will> bye guys, supper time in mainland china
[10:16] <arsenip> bye
[10:17] * arsenip unremoves his highlight
[10:18] <foobarry> till tomorrow
[10:21] <arsenip> strange chap
[10:35] <davmor2> JamesTait: wrong month for this but I believe the sentiment is still good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4Uu0OlmTg
[10:38] <Ridgewing> Found a good spiel on Ubuntu Wallpapers http://ubuntu.ecchi.ca/wallpapers/
[10:38] <Ridgewing> Is everyone being v. quiet in half an hour for two minutes then ?
[10:39] * Ridgewing puts on his white pop_ey
[10:39] <Ridgewing> **popp_ey
[10:40] <davmor2> Ridgewing: I will be
[10:41] <Ridgewing> I shall be too. [I've got a red England Rooney shirt on aswell. He's number 4]
[10:44] <Ridgewing> Apparently if you touch yur red button after 8pm on Friday on the beeb - you get Mr Isaac's saying " Never befoore, in the field of human conflict, was so ... [it goes on a_bit]"
[11:36] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:45] <davmor2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkrPxHaqKIc muhahahahahaha :D
[11:48] <davmor2> I love the line like singing Ironic when there are no ironies :)
[13:57] <marshmn> hi all; AIUI, within the Ubuntu repositories there are fonts available which are not installed by default. Is there some webpage which shows how all of these fonts look, so that I can decide which to install?
[13:57] <marshmn> I'm looking for more fonts suitable for headings and things in DTP work
[14:01] <popey> I dont think we have such a page
[14:09] <davmor2> marshmn: there should I guess be a preview in software center in theory
[16:31] <mapps> hi all
[16:57] <mapps> quiet ere as ever;]
[17:01] <bigcalm> Sssh
[17:10] <mapps> ;]
[17:26] <davmor2> it's oh so quiet, it's oh so still....
[17:29] <awilkins> You're all alone. And so peaceful until........
[17:29] <awilkins> A BILLION SPIDERS CRAWL OUT FROM BEHIND THE RADIATOR AND FEAST UPON YOUR EYEBALLS
[17:32] <bashrc_> is that a Canonical mission statement?
[17:33] <diddledan> davmor2, then someone makes a riat
[17:34] <diddledan> (she never pronounced that right for some reason)
[17:35] <diddledan> maybe she said it as riet, rather than riat. either way it was not riot
[17:37] <davmor2> diddledan: dude you can hardly speak English give the foreigner a break :D
[17:37] <diddledan> lol
[17:37] <diddledan> good point
[17:38] <diddledan> bloomin foreigners being foreign
[17:38] <diddledan> doing their foreign things with other foreigners
[17:38] <diddledan> you'd think they were just like everyone else the way they behave
[17:39] <diddledan> I hold higher standards! only natives are allowed to be eejits
[17:39] * bashrc_ imagines Shuttleworth announcing spider eyeball convergence story
[17:39] <diddledan> anywho I'm off
[18:20] <awilkins> On the matter of the Icelandic Singing Pixie : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A78yTvIY1k
[18:37] <bashrc> "for the next generation of ubuntu convergent devices we've made having spiders crawl out of your phone and feasting upon your eyeballs into a simple and elegant user experience. Just swipe down like this, and then..."
[18:42] <awilkins> I'm reading that in Bjork's voice now
[18:42] <awilkins> It's surprisingly calming
[20:16] <diddledan> eep, spiders!
[20:34] * zmoylan-pi blows on back of diddledan's neck to give the heebie jeebies...
[20:44] <SuperEngineer> have the spiders gone yet? if not, I've a few chips that
[20:45] <SuperEngineer> they would taste delicious with ;-)
[20:47] <zmoylan-pi> a drumstick for everyone \o/
[20:58] <SuperEngineer> :D
[21:27] * zmoylan-pi is watching terrorform episode of red dwarf with taranshula setting up home in listers underwear...
[21:27] <daftykins> :)
[21:56] * diddledan_ bounces
[22:00] <zmoylan-pi> connection bouncing before the storm... https://twitter.com/ESBNetworks/status/664489730164326400
[22:15] <daftykins> i did ESB in school ;)
[22:17] <diddledan_> I did LSD
[22:18] <daftykins> :O
[22:22] <davmor2> I love LSD it is one of my favourite beatles tracks
[23:09] <ali1234> i can't see hashtags on twitter
[23:09] <daftykins> sounds ideal
[23:09] <ali1234> it's like madlibs
[23:10] <ali1234> i do wonder why though
[23:16] <diddledan_> o_O
[23:17] <diddledan_> #hashfail
[23:18] <ali1234> it's one of my adblock subsriptions
[23:21] <daftykins> ublock origin!
[23:22] <ali1234> no
[23:23] <daftykins> a finely reasoned argument as always
[23:23] <diddledan_> I don't like that adblock has deals with the advertisers to not block everything
[23:23] <ali1234> i do
[23:24] <ali1234> i also like that adblock is now providing an alternative to mozilla on android
[23:24] <webpigeon> I wouldn't even use it if i could browse a page without the content being interupted by javascript popups
[23:24] <webpigeon> it's like 1995, web 2.0 style
[23:27] <ali1234> daftykins: when i supply reasoned arguments i get accused of being pedantic. so i no longer bother
[23:27] <daftykins> aww diddums
[23:27] <ali1234> ah, a sarcastic and dismissive response *as always*
[23:27] <daftykins> :D
[23:28] <daftykins> dismissing a dismissal is a novel one
[23:29] <diddledan_> you're dismissed
[23:49] <diddledan_> lol @ mansized electricity (from popey on the linux unplugged show)
[23:57] <popey> :)
[23:57] <diddledan_> I like the description of wimpy's roadtrip setup too
[23:58] <popey> it was dead fun
[23:59] * popey casts a spell of invokation
[23:59] <popey> *boom*
[23:59] <popey> and he appears
[23:59] <flexiondotorg> as if by magic
I like the description of wimpy's roadtrip setup too
[23:59] <diddledan_> \o/
[23:59] <flexiondotorg> flexiondotorg is Wimpy.
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-accessibility
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[22:30] <james1138> Hello all
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-de
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[09:43] <evros> morgen...
[09:47] <evros> Kann mir bitte jemand helfen? Trusty hängt immer wieder wenn ich nicht die ganze Zeit die Maus bewege. Das treibt mich langsam in den Wahnsinn...
[09:48] <mrkramps> evros, was ist in dem gerät für eine grafikkarte verbaut?
[09:50] <evros> Eine ATI HD 6700 mit fglrx-updates Treibern
[09:56] <mrkramps> evros, hängt sich das system ganz auf?
[09:59] <evros> Nein, es ist eher ein rutteln. Bei Videos und Musik zb
[10:01] <mrkramps> evros, besteht das problem auch mit dem freien radeon-treiber?
[10:03] <evros> war von anfang an da der Treiber hat da nichts dran geändert
[10:04] <mrkramps> also ja, nein, oder hast du nicht ausprobiert?
[10:17] <mrkramps> evros, ist dein bildschirmschoner aktiviert?
[10:20] <evros> ja er ist an. wie schalte ich ihn ganz aus?
[10:22] <mrkramps> evros, im zweifelsfall deinstallieren
[10:25] <evros> weg damit... brauch ich nicht :D hast du mir vielleicht ein Befehl für parat?
[10:29] <mrkramps> evros, das kommt auf dein ubuntu-derivat an
apt-get purge *X*</joke>
[10:34] <evros> ich benutze ubuntu MATE wenn ich in Synaptic "mate-screensaver" entfernen will es mir auch den desktop und core deinstallieren
[10:35] <evros> TeXnicer, ne ne den brauche ich noch :D
[10:35] <mrkramps> evros, mate-desktop und mate-core sind lediglich metapakete
[10:36] <mrkramps> die sorgen dafür das mit einem paket alle anderen notwendigen pakete für eine umgebung installiert werden
[10:36] <mrkramps> mehr nicht
[10:36] <evros> okay
[10:38] <evros> gut der screensaver ist jetzt runter
[10:40] <evros> bis jetzt ist das Problem immer noch da
[10:41] <mrkramps> wie groß bzw. klein ist denn das zeitintervall von der letzten mauseingabe bis das problem auftritt?
[10:41] <TeXnicer> ACPI/Energy saving - oft ein Problem...
[10:42] <evros> während dem "ruckeln" geht auch die CPU Last runter...
[10:42] <mrkramps> runter?
[10:43] <evros> beim Systemmonitor im Panel sieht man es gut
[10:44] <evros> das zeitintervall ist unregelmäßig
[10:45] <mrkramps> weird, ich kann mit dem ganzen fehlerbidl irgendwie nichts anfangen
[10:45] <mrkramps> schlimmer noch, das internet irgendwie auch nicht
[10:46] <evros> beim versuch zu googlen finde ich auch nicht...
[10:46] <stevieh1> ui, ein trojaner für Linux?
[10:47] <mrkramps> wie gesagt, die anderen treiber(-versionen) für deine grafikkarte solltest du noch durchtesten
[10:48] <evros> ich hau jetzt fglrx runter und probiere es aus ich mein das es aber kein unterschied bringt
[11:04] <evros> muss ich nicht wie bei windoof neu starten wenn ich treiber wechsele?
[11:05] <mrkramps> evros, zumindest die desktopumgebung
[11:06] <evros> okay
[11:33] <evros> mrkramps, jetzt is der radeon treiber aktiv
[11:34] <evros> aber das Problem ist noch da
[11:35] <stevieh1> dann ist das wahrscheinlich ein ganz anderes problem...
[11:35] <stevieh1> interrupts?
[11:37] <evros> glaube nicht rechner ist kaum ausgelastet
[11:38] <stevieh1> nein, ich meine nicht last, sondern, dass irgendwas in der SW (oder HW?) so hängt, dass es erst wieder weiter wackelt, wenn die Maus nen irq macht.
[11:41] <evros> vielleicht
[11:43] <stevieh1> was ist das für ein rechner? Ganz normal?
[11:44] <evros> ich mach mal einen BIOS reset müsst glaube ich noch etwas übertaktet sein
[11:59] <evros> so... BIOS resetet kleinigkeiten eingestellt und bis jetzt scheint es weg zu sein
[12:00] <stevieh1> sowas kann schon sein, dass sich da durchs übertakten was verschluckt.
[12:01] <evros> bei windows wird sowas wohl weg kompensiert...
[12:09] <evros> wie überprüfe ich die Taktfrequenz? der CPU Monitor im Dock zeigt nur noch 0 an
[12:10] <evros> übrigens danke ich euch für eure hilfe
[12:15] <dadrc> evros: `lscpu`
[12:17] <evros> danke
[12:44] <Eddix> Morgen ich habe Ubuntu grad Frisch installiert und habe ein kleines Maus Problem... Kann sie ohne Probleme bewegen jedoch nicht immer funktioniert das klicken jemand ein jemand ein Rat
[12:47] <Goethe> hi
[12:48] <Goethe> mal eine frage zu sftp in proftpd mit openssl
[12:48] <David1977> Eddix: Maus kaputt?
[12:50] <Goethe> ich habe ubuntu 12.4 und proftpd ist compiliert mit openssl 1.0.1e, aber die aktuelle version ist 1.0.1
[12:51] <Eddix> David nein sie funktioniert ja überall auch also ist ausgeschlossen
[12:51] <David1977> Was für eine isses denn? Irgendwas besonderes?
[12:52] <Eddix> Nein normale Gaming Maus Pro Rat 3 von Cyborg
[12:52] <Goethe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13226799/
[12:53] <Goethe> meine frage. Macht das irgendwie probleme? Ich möchte FTP und SFTP einrichten.
[12:54] <Goethe> Ich befürchte fast, das müsste man neu compilieren :-(
[12:56] <David1977> Eddix: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92546/cyborg-r-a-t-3-gaming-mouse-stops-working-after-a-while-and-or-misbehaves
[12:56] <David1977> der hat das gleiche Problem
[12:56] <David1977> aber mit einem älteren Ubuntu
[12:56] <David1977> vielleicht hilft es ja
[12:56] <Eddix> Oki danke
[12:57] <stevieh1> Eddix: die Maus putzen?
[12:57] <stevieh1> Mäuse machen unter Linux eigentlich echt keine Probleme
[12:57] <David1977> Eddix: Falls du selbst noch stöbern magst...suchbegriff: ubuntu cyborg rat 3 no click
[13:03] <Goethe> kennt sich hier jemand mit proftpd und sftp aus?
[13:03] <cheGGo> sftp != ftpes
[13:03] <cheGGo> sftp wird in der regel über SSH betrieben, nicht ueber proftpd
[13:04] <Goethe> Soweit habe ich es verstanden.
[13:05] <Goethe> Ich frage mich bloß ob ich jetzt mit der http://paste.ubuntu.com/13226799/ probleme bekomme und neu kompilieren muss...
[13:07] <Goethe> oder sonst irgendwas, weil die nicht richtig gelinkt sind... naja, find ich schon raus :-)
[13:44] <koegs> Goethe: nochmal, willst du sftp oder ftps?
[13:45] <koegs> wenn sftp, dann interessiert proftpd nicht
[15:23] <gaudibrezn> hi!
[17:58] <dreamon> Hei. Wenn ich auf www.n-tv.de/ ein Video ansehe, dann kann ich toll die Werbung sehen, aber das anschließende Video kommt nie. Ist das bei euch auch so?
[18:25] <bekks> Umfragen helfen gewöhnlich nicht bei Problemlösungen - hier sehe ich die n-tv Videos problemlos.
[18:31] <Lothenon> welche videos?
[18:32] <musca> welche Werbung?
[18:34] <musca> dreamon: evtl. handelt es sich nur um eine "priority inversion" in deinem Adblocker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priority_inversion
[19:15] <blackboxsilber> hallo an hallo kennt einer ein programm- zum gif erstellen?
[19:15] <bekks> Ja.
[19:15] <jokrebel> "einer" bestimmt
[19:15] <bekks> Bestimmt ganz viele.
[19:16] <blackboxsilber> jo aber bitte keine kommandozeile
[19:16] <k1l_> hast du mal gimp angeguckt?
[19:16] <blackboxsilber> mit gimp kann man gifs machen?
[19:16] <blackboxsilber> bewegte bilder?
[19:17] <bekks> Ah, du möchtest ein animated gif bauen.
[19:17] <blackboxsilber> ja
[19:17] <k1l_> http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/gimptutorials/tp/animated-gif.htm
[19:19] <k1l_> oder halt mit gimp-gap probieren.
[19:19] <k1l_> oder qgifer oder so.
[19:20] <blackboxsilber> mal sehen danke
[19:20] <bekks> oder imagemagick oder ffmpeg oder so.
[19:26] <blackboxsilber> ok danke mal
[19:27] <blackboxsilber> ich schau mal bei youtube da hats auch manchmal so spezialisten
[19:28] <blackboxsilber> by
[19:28] <bekks> m(
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.890382
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-us-tx
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[14:28] <thebwt> Herro everyone
[14:35] <slick666_work> http://www.quickmeme.com/img/2c/2c759215cd21ed91876362452a3ab1c811d5219399ada8cd426e6fefe18baa3d.jpg
[14:37] <thebwt> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.892721
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-autopilot
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[16:50] <dkessel> guys, would you say that gtk3 apps are properly supported in autopilot with version 1.5?
[16:51] <dkessel> is there a specific version that the libautopilot-gtk still has version 1.4, but autopilot itself seems to be at 1.5.1 ? (in wily)
[17:38] <balloons> hey dkessel!
[17:39] <dkessel> hey balloons :)
[17:46] <dkessel> balloons: any idea about my questions? ^
[17:46] <balloons> right, right
[17:47] <balloons> so ubiquity is written in gtk3. And there are some helpers DanChapman worked on to make it easier to test; they should be of use for any gtk3 app
[17:48] <balloons> so, yes autopilot has gtk3 support, and there are tests using it
[17:48] <balloons> are you wondering why the libautopilot-gtk is still named 1.4?
[17:48] <balloons> that I cannot tell you. probably just a naming thing, and worth asking veebers
[17:49] <balloons> if I might ask however, what are you thinking of ?
[17:51] <dkessel> i want to try replacing the manual test for mousepad, xubuntu's default editor
[17:53] <balloons> ahh brillant. i hope the gtk3 versions of xubuntu apps treat you better than the gtk2 stuff
[17:53] <balloons> do let me know if you need help or run into issues, etc
[17:55] <dkessel> balloons: sure, will do :)
[17:55] <balloons> and do talk to Dan about the helpers for gtk3
[17:55] <balloons> if things go well that is; they may be of use
[17:55] <dkessel> ok
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2015-11-11-#cloud-init
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[14:40] <natorious> smoser: is anyone meeting today?
[14:49] <smoser> natorious, bah
[14:49] <smoser> i'm not really supposed to be working
[14:49] <smoser> Canonical gets national holidays off
[14:50] <natorious> right on. So, I've been thinking about the state of things. Perhaps getting moderator access would be helpful for progress on 2.0
[14:55] <smoser> moderator access? natorious ?
[14:59] <natorious> so I can help contribute to others merge requests in gerrit. I have some other merge requests to push up still too. Did a bit of work around adding a subprocess check_output derivative and started on some network_config for linux
[14:59] <natorious> I'd also broke out some distro namespaces on a branch to get that going
[15:02] <natorious> I'm not sure their would be immediate gain but, at least I could add value to promoting dev help on the project
[15:08] <natorious> also did a bit of work getting windows to detect config drive partitions using ctypes from stdlib
[15:09] <natorious> all those more or less depend on the two merge requests that are already in so if there is something needed w/ them, do let me know
[19:11] <manuq> hi, if a cloud-config yaml has runcmd and packages, are packages installed before or after the commands?
[19:12] <manuq> I have packages: - git and runcmd: - git clone ...
[19:13] <manuq> I better switch to cloud-init bash script?
[19:19] <natorious> manuq: it depends on the order you have them defined in your /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg file
[19:20] <natorious> the default upstream config has package-update-upgrade-install running before runcmd
[19:20] <natorious> but, there is also bootcmd which runs before them as part of early boot
[19:21] <natorious> I'd think you'd get better results from using the cloud-init modules than just passing in a bash script content file
[19:22] <natorious> but if your not into leveraging all the other modules and only need to run simple commands, that might be a better option
[19:23] <manuq> natorious, that's an excellent answer, thanks
[19:23] <natorious> most of the distros should have the same upstream ordering but, its possible that the package creator could change it
[19:23] <natorious> np
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-nz
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[01:09] <hads> morning
[01:25] <ibeardslee> olly_: hmm, how long have you noticed that?
[01:50] <olly_> ibeardslee: i just slightly randomly tried it before I said
[01:51] <olly_> wayback has it from last december https://web.archive.org/web/20141218100915/http://ubuntu-nz.org/
[01:51] <olly_> just a redirect to the ubuntu site then though
[01:53] <olly_> long ago it redirected to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NZTeam it seems
[01:57] <olly_> looks like canonical control the domain, fwiw
[18:55] <olly_> morning
[19:04] <ibeardslee> oh yes, morning
[21:16] <mwhudson> morning
[21:55] <hads> morning
[22:38] <chilts> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.902465
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-tn
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[09:30] <elacheche> o/
[10:24] <chikore> elacheche, o/
[12:03] <chaker> o/
[12:23] <nizarus> cbj j'ai trouvé ça mailq | tail -n+2 | awk 'BEGIN { RS = "" } { if ($8 == "[email protected]" && $9 == "")print $1 }' | tr -d '*!' | postsuper -d -
[12:23] <nizarus> On peut choisir :
[12:23] <nizarus> $7 – Sender
[12:23] <nizarus> $8 – Recipient
[12:23] <nizarus> $9 – Recipient2
[12:29] <nizarus> ça marche :p
[12:51] <elacheche> nizarus, cool :D
[13:38] <nizarus> oups wrong channel
[13:39] <cbj> mailq | grep arpwatch | awk '{print $1}' | tr -d '*!' | postsuper -d -
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.907880
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-gnome
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[09:22] <darkxst> Noskcaj, can you merge gnome-session?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.909985
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-x
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[08:38] <ricotz> tseliot, hi, is the archive nvidia blob working with the latest xserver upload for you?
[08:40] <ricotz> (xserver 2:1.17.3-2ubuntu1)
[08:41] <tjaalton> just told him to add xserver-xorg-legacy to depends..
[08:41] <tjaalton> try installing that
[08:41] <tjaalton> my bad, forgot about the blobs :)
[08:41] <ricotz> tjaalton, ah, I forgot about that
[08:41] <jcristau> tjaalton: i thought nvidia worked without that?
[08:41] <tjaalton> jcristau: dunno, guess not
[08:42] <tjaalton> my old card is buried too deep somewhere to test
[08:43] <ricotz> tjaalton, I assume there were others asking before me?
[08:45] <tjaalton> no
[08:45] <tjaalton> well, Sarvatt pointed it out last night
[08:52] <ricotz_> tjaalton, alright
[08:53] <ricotz_> tjaalton, seems to work
[08:57] <tjaalton> good
[08:59] <tseliot> ricotz_: I haven't tested that yet. A new upload is in the plans though ;)
[09:00] <ricotz_> tseliot, make sure to update to 352.55 on the way ;)
[09:01] <tseliot> ricotz_: oh, you'll be surprised ;)
[09:02] <ricotz_> tseliot, better just tell :)
[09:02] <tseliot> I can't yet. You'll see it soon
[09:11] <tjaalton> ricotz_: looks like they're still in proposed, so that's why noone noticed
[09:13] <ricotz_> I know, "the early bird catches the bug"
[09:13] <tjaalton> autopkgtest for ofono-phonesim 1.20-1ubuntu3: amd64: Regression
[09:13] <tjaalton> and no useful output
[09:14] <tjaalton> nice
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.912634
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-server
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[01:47] <mark0> hey guys
[02:04] <jak2000> i want clone a hard disk to other how to do? i try download ubuntu64.iso and with unebotin install on a usb, start from the usb, but not give me the option of try or start ubuntu from usb. any advice?
[07:43] <MACscr> Any ideas my bond isnt working correctly? host is ubuntu 14.04 lts. http://pastie.org/10549923. Traffic on the bond stops working if mlx2 has no physical connection
[07:43] <MACscr> bond should be a bit more resilient than that i would hope
[09:49] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:56] <jgjl> Hi, the "isolcpus" boot parameter does not seem to have any effect in Ubuntu 15.04 server.
[11:57] <jgjl> I set isolcpus=4-23,28-47 in the kernel, but cat "/proc/$$/status|tail -6" still gives me "Cpus_allowed_list: 0-47"
[11:57] <jgjl> Any ideas?
[12:56] <jgjl> Found the cause of the issue, "/proc/$$/status|tail -6" is not the right approach to check if "isolcpus" works, "sysctl -a | grep sched" does the trick
[12:59] <jgjl> however, isolcpus still does not work
[15:02] <mark0> morning all
[15:03] <mark0> do you guys do burn-in for new file server drives? I'm looking at running SMART long test then badblocks but it sounds like badblocks could take two full days or longer to run on 4tb drives
[15:09] <ikonia> burn in ?
[15:09] <ikonia> just plug them in and use them
[15:10] <mark0> I had read a few different guides that advised running burn-in tests to make sure the HDDs don't fail right off the bat
[15:10] <ikonia> just plug them in and use them
[15:50] <The_Shade> hi
[18:32] <jimmy51v_> hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu server 14.04 under qemu. installer errors with ""failed to load installer component" loading apt-cdrom-setup failed for unknown reasons" after a while. is there some log i can look at to figure out why?
[18:34] <jimmy51v_> nothing in /var/log
[18:34] <jimmy51v_> other than syslog
[18:43] <arcsky> question guys, ist possible that sudo apt-get install gnome. reboots after its finished? if not can ubuntu reboot its self like windows updates do sometimes?
[18:43] <bekks> arcsky: No. No.
[18:45] <jimmy51v_> you can make it reboot if you want, i guess
[18:45] <bekks> No.
[18:45] <jimmy51v_> something like sudo apt-get install gnome && sudo reboot or whatever
[18:45] <dave4925> set a timer to reboot after 5 hours ;)
[18:45] <jimmy51v_> bekks: why not?
[18:45] <dave4925> I think you can cron it
[18:46] <arcsky> possible to check why machine got rebooted?
[18:46] <bekks> jimmy51v_: && is onvoking a second command after finishing apt-get. so no, there is no way to tell apt-get to reboot after installing updates. sudo reboot is a second command. :)
[18:46] <dave4925> it's just not developed to do that but it sounds like a good idea for the desktop environment
[18:46] <bekks> arcsky: Take a look at the logs.
[18:46] <bekks> dave4925: It sounds like a pretty pointless idea. No reboot is necessary except for kernel updates.
[18:48] <dave4925> bekks some apps really need a reboot but don't tell you. If I'm on desktop I just reboot and I see the difference
[18:48] <bekks> dave4925: There is not a single app that requires a reboot in linux.
[18:48] <bekks> Not one.
[18:49] <dave4925> yeah that's what they say
[18:49] <bekks> Thats a fact.
[18:49] <dave4925> but guess what there are many devs and they don't all document each interaction
[18:49] <bekks> Which app does require a reboot for you, besides the kernel?
[18:49] <dave4925> it's just what I've noticed on desktop
[18:49] <bekks> NAme the particular app please :)
[18:50] <dave4925> I don't remember the particular ones there are thousands and I just told you my general experience. It's been on desktop and not server
[18:51] <bekks> There is not a single app which requires a reboot. Only the kernel cannot be updated while it is loaded.
[18:51] <tarpman> some libraries i.e. openssl trigger update-notifier to recommend a reboot, to be 100% sure no running process still has the old image
[18:51] <tarpman> that's different from "requiring" a reboot, of course
[18:51] <dave4925> sometimes you just have to reload the UI to get things working proper
[18:51] <bekks> dave4925: Reloading the UI does not require a reboot.
[18:52] <jimmy51v_> RAM
[18:52] <bekks> RAM what? :)
[18:52] <jimmy51v_> my issue was RAM. i needed to specify 512MB of RAM for my VM.
[18:53] <jimmy51v_> the installer crapped out with whatever the qemu/kvm default was
[18:54] <dave4925> I know rebooting is a major thing on a server but on a single user desktop whats the deal
[18:55] <bekks> Nothing's the deal. There is just nothing besides the kernel requiring an update.
[18:55] <bekks> s/update/reboot/.
[22:07] <teward> rbasak: still around/alive?
[22:27] <teward> rbasak: regarding the dpkg-divert and the nginx package, Appendix G is restated in Debian Package Policy 10.7.4 - diversions are not appropriate. So, I've "Won't Fix"'d it on that point, and because the bug poster agrees it should be handled in Debian first. Though, what they're trying to do appears to be policy violation.
[22:30] <teward> (no more actions from me on this)
[22:31] <teward> rbasak: you also can't isolate nginx-full, etc. from nginx-common - that would break everything. They'd have to spin their own packages at that point to really make it work the way they need.
[22:40] <arcsky> my Vnc is just grey when i try to connect to it. i did started it with sudo tightvncserver :1 -geometry 800x600 -depth 24
[22:42] <bekks> arcsky: what did you expect?
[22:48] <arcsky> gnome
[22:48] <arcsky> i got it to work. http://broderick-tech.com/vncxstartup-files-ubuntu-14-04/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:20.917497
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[00:41] <kenvandine> robru, i don't think so
[00:41] <kenvandine> been there for quite a while
[00:44] <robru> kenvandine: Hmmmmmmm, train only found them in the xenial package
[00:44] <kenvandine> ok, so maybe in the overlay ppa then and not vivid proper
[00:45] <robru> kenvandine: did the format change at some point? Train looks for debian/tests/control
[00:45] <kenvandine> i thought they landed before vivid was released, but likely wrong
[00:45] <kenvandine> nope, we use debian/tests/control
[00:45] <robru> kenvandine: but the package I'm testing i grabbed from overlay ;-)
[00:45] <kenvandine> that has to have them
[00:46] <kenvandine> there is no delta between overlay and xenial
[02:35] <robru> kenvandine: can you comment on this failure? Is this expected? https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial-ci-train-ppa-service-landing-019/xenial/armhf/c/content-hub/20151110_225444@/log.gz
[08:25] <tvoss> good morning
[08:25] <tvoss> robru, you happen to be around?
[08:25] <tvoss> robru, if so: what is our policy on landing to wily and xenial?
[08:25] <tvoss> robru, do we have a combined target for both available?
[09:32] <sil2100> davmor2, rvr: any news on silo 0?
[09:32] <sil2100> Since jibel mentioned that was the last one needed to land
[09:32] <sil2100> I don't see it even ready for QA..
[09:33] <davmor2> sil2100: you have as much info as I do, I just logged in ;)
[09:59] <rvr> davmor2: sil2100: Nope, I have no news
[10:03] <morphis> sil2100: ping
[10:04] <Mirv> OTA-8 candidate bug #1514173 <- jibel, sil2100
[10:10] <jibel> Mirv, k, do you have an example of this crash with an application?
[10:16] <Mirv> jibel: I'm asking faenil to show up and tell about it
[10:17] <Mirv> or zsombi can fill in if faenil doesn't appear
[10:18] <faenil> Mirv: here I am
[10:18] <zsombi> Mirv: I only know that there is a crash, not sure whether the app has been released with it or not. I assume if this is a blocker, it means the release or RC doesn't have the changes which would cause the crash
[10:18] <zsombi> faenil: ^ do you have an answer to this?
[10:18] <zsombi> faenil: Mirv: if the app changes are not in RC, then it's not OTA-8
[10:18] <faenil> jibel: re the bug, it's a bug I found while playing with the component, apps are in the process of transitioning to ListItemLayout, so I can't say if any of them causes the crash
[10:19] <zsombi> jibel: faenil: then it smells to me it's OTA-9
[10:19] <faenil> if there's any app released in OTA8 that uses ListItemLayout with an <img> tag in the text, it's going to crash
[10:20] <faenil> zsombi: let's hope no apps released for OTA8 trigger the bug then...
[10:21] <jibel> faenil, do you have an example of such app?
[10:21] <faenil> it's a risk...but if it's too much trouble to pull the fix in for OTA8, then yes, it's not a really common usecase
[10:21] <zsombi> faenil: show an app from RC image that has this crash
[10:22] <faenil> zsombi: jibel I don't know. Telegram uses <img> in its delegates, but Telegram is not using ListItemLayout yet
[10:22] <zsombi> OTA9 then
[10:23] <jibel> faenil, zsombi well a crash in the sdk sounds critical to me, if the fix is safe and you can kand just this fix then it's worth preparing a silo and then we can decide to land or not in ota8
[10:23] <sil2100> morphis: pong
[10:23] <jibel> s/kand/land
[10:23] <morphis> sil2100: OTA8 is now in freeze, right?
[10:23] <sil2100> jibel: we still waiting for silo 0 or should I do the snapshot and first rc candidate without that?
[10:23] <zsombi> jibel: all AP tests are crashing here'n'there lately... no idea where the crash is so far... bzoltan_ suffers with this for days
[10:23] <sil2100> morphis: yes, we don't accept anything else for ota8
[10:23] <morphis> sil2100: just wanted to know when the doors are open for ota9 things
[10:24] <jibel> sil2100, wait, probably more fixes to land today
[10:24] <sil2100> morphis: you want to land anything to the overlay?
[10:24] <bzoltan_> jibel: I do... I really do
[10:24] <morphis> sil2100: nothing for ota8
[10:24] <Mirv> faenil: it's not that much about trouble but the risk involved in changing UITK at this point. so it depends on how risky the fix is.
[10:24] <sil2100> jibel: uh, so we stay frozen? Since we could let ota9 landings land to the overlay, but it would make things confusing for me as I would have to cherry pick to the snapshot
[10:24] <zsombi> jibel: bzoltan_ so as doors are closed, nothing will go for ota8 anymore, ota9 will get the fix, but first we have to find what causes the random crashes on AP!
[10:24] <jibel> sil2100, yes, we stay frozen
[10:25] <faenil> Mirv: I'd say the fix has quite low risk, but if pulling that fix will pull more stuff from recent uitk releases, then I can't say
[10:25] <faenil> (I don't know if you cherrypick it)
[10:25] <Mirv> faenil: yeah it would definitely need to be single cherry-pick fix if something. but those AP problems zsombi mentions complicate the issue.
[10:25] <faenil> Mirv: ok
[10:26] <zsombi> faenil: we already have few bugs we cherrypicked, and those were OK with AP... but something got basted since then
[10:27] <faenil> zsombi: ok
[10:29] <bzoltan_> zsombi: jibel: brendand knows about it and he knows how to reproduce the issue.. IMO it is a showstopper one.
[10:29] <faenil> I agree with jibel that a crash fix is a crash fix, it shouldn't be postponed. But given there are AP failures and the ListItemLayout bug requires a quite special usecase to be triggered, it could make sense...
[10:30] <faenil> jibel: just saw your tag. that bug is not a regression (fyi).
[10:31] <faenil> it is a new component (introduced in OTA7), the bug has always been there since the component was released
[10:31] <faenil> jibel: ^
[10:31] <brendand> bzoltan_, btw i'm looking at that now, i reproduced the issue
[10:32] <jibel> faenil, ok, thanks for the clarification
[10:32] <faenil> jibel: np :)
[10:32] <bzoltan_> brendand: thanks man!
[10:33] <brendand> bzoltan_, apart from the crash though what about all the failures?
[10:34] <bzoltan_> brendand: I would be happy to jump on them and fix them.. but first is to bring back the AP tests to non crashing state
[11:09] <brendand> bzoltan_, i'm still not sure why the crash is happening but it is related to test failing, so no failures, no crashes :P
[11:10] <bzoltan_> brendand: Nice try :) but no. The Unity/Mir should not crash after a failing AP test... AP tests to very simple user interaction stuff.. apps could do the same.
[11:11] <brendand> bzoltan_, it happens when trying to write some error logs to the result
[11:11] <bzoltan_> brendand: then it is an autopilot bug + a regression in Mir/Unity
[11:11] <brendand> bzoltan_, it's neither of those
[11:12] <brendand> bzoltan_, it's a testtools bug that's being exposed by lots of failures in uitk tests
[11:12] <bzoltan_> brendand: what else could it be? Can not be UITK because I do have logs from the very same UITK with a different image... image changed, UITK AP tests crash... so something has landed
[11:13] <bzoltan_> brendand: nice try again... but please do not try to blame the UITK for something what it is not responisble for. No AP should crash the shell
[11:13] <brendand> bzoltan_, every time a test fails it tries to write some extra logs and at some point (probably on a race condition) that is not working and it crashes autopilot
[11:13] <bzoltan_> brendand: Okey, then it is an autopilot bug
[11:13] <bzoltan_> brendand: failing test must not crash the whole system
[11:14] <brendand> bzoltan_, of course
[11:14] <bzoltan_> brendand: and we are not seeking 100% test success here... we are trying to prevent regression.. so tests failed yesterday can fail today... but tests failed yesterday can not block other test runs.
[11:15] <bzoltan_> brendand: I am sure that something has landed in the last weeks what made this regression... because it is a serious regression.
[11:27] <brendand> bzoltan_, it's pretty unlikely to have been either testtools or autopilot though as they are practically static. i'm sure it's an existing issue there that's been exposed by some change
[11:29] <bzoltan_> brendand: Most probably ... not the first time that somebody just dumped an untested crap on the Overlay... untested I mean not running the UITK tests.
[11:29] <bzoltan_> brendand: do we have a dashboard to see since what image the UITK tests crash?
[11:30] <brendand> bzoltan_, nope
[11:30] <bzoltan_> brendand: we used to have such dashboard :(
[11:31] <brendand> bzoltan_, we did, but only a handful of people took any responsibility for it
[11:31] <brendand> bzoltan_, whereas everyone was supposed to
[11:31] <bzoltan_> brendand: :(
[11:31] <brendand> bzoltan_, and some other changes meant the tests stopped being run a while back
[11:32] <brendand> bzoltan_, you could get a jenkins instance from ci and set up a regular run
[11:40] <bzoltan_> brendand: so what should we do now?
[11:41] <bzoltan_> brendand: what disturbs me a lot is that stuff can land and screw up UITK tests without much control
[12:11] <mardy> rvr: hi! Did you manage to test silo 1 with the new click?
[12:12] <rvr> mardy: Nope, needed to land a higher priority silo
[12:12] <mardy> rvr: ok
[13:45] <tvoss> sil2100, ping
[13:49] <boiko> jibel: bfiller: not sure if there is still time, but: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/638
[13:58] <pmcgowan> boiko, yeah we want that one
[13:59] <pmcgowan> mark it when ready
[13:59] <boiko> pmcgowan: ready already
[13:59] <pmcgowan> davmor2, then ^^
[14:00] <pmcgowan> boiko, is it marked ready?
[14:00] <pmcgowan> oh it is
[14:01] <boiko> pmcgowan: yep
[14:02] <davmor2> pmcgowan: is that silo 0
[14:03] <davmor2> ah no 55
[14:03] <davmor2> rvr: ^^ silo 55 is in jibel's list of bug fixes
[14:04] <davmor2> pmcgowan, boiko: any news on silo0
[14:04] <boiko> davmor2: salem_ is working on it, fixing a bug bfiller found
[14:05] <davmor2> boiko: nice thanks
[14:17] <pmcgowan> davmor2, which image has silo 2? its not working here for me
[14:19] <davmor2> pmcgowan: 172 on krillin
[14:19] <pmcgowan> davmor2, not working on mako or mx4 for me
[14:19] <pmcgowan> with whatever I got this morning
[14:20] <pmcgowan> davmor2, I understood it would be in the next image
[14:21] <davmor2> pmcgowan: yes the one that landed last night 172, 171 was the last build yesterday
[14:21] <pmcgowan> davmor2, I am saying the update I got an hour ago does not have it, is that expected?
[14:22] <pmcgowan> or is it me
[14:22] <davmor2> pmcgowan: opening here I get a location on the front road almost instantly
[14:23] <ogra_> on MX4 image 162 location works fine again for me too
[14:24] <davmor2> pmcgowan: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/172.commitlog
[14:25] <pmcgowan> something wrong here
[14:25] <pmcgowan> about telss me I have 154 which I updated to 11/11
[14:25] <pmcgowan> wtf
[14:28] <pmcgowan> I have the wrong channel
[14:28] <davmor2> pmcgowan: indeed somehow
[14:29] <davmor2> pmcgowan: that sounds most strange
[14:29] <pmcgowan> davmor2, last time I reflashed I picked poorly
[14:29] <pmcgowan> cockpit error
[14:30] <davmor2> pmcgowan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI
[14:32] <pmcgowan> davmor2, I just bricked my phone with a wrong flash
[14:32] <pmcgowan> forgot to give it a channel so it installed v1
[14:33] <davmor2> pmcgowan: ouch yeah that will do it, for mx4 power and volume down to get to bootloader, for mako power and volume+ & volume-
[14:33] <pmcgowan> davmor2, its back
[14:34] <pmcgowan> now to fix it
[14:42] <davmor2> pmcgowan: you all sorted now?
[14:42] <pmcgowan> davmor2, waiting to see, it keeps saying failed to enter recovery but then finishes
[14:42] <pmcgowan> ubuntu spinny logo
[14:44] <davmor2> pmcgowan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ChannelsToFlash does your flash command resemble the ones on that page?
[14:45] <pmcgowan> davmor2, I have 162 now
[14:45] <davmor2> \o/
[14:45] <davmor2> pmcgowan: and does location work now?
[14:45] <pmcgowan> davmor2, at some pint I used ubuntu instead of mezu.en
[14:46] <pmcgowan> davmor2, yes, bam
[14:46] <davmor2> pmcgowan: \o/
[14:53] <salem_> trainguards, hi, can you guys help me with silo 0 and 20? we created two silos because we can't dual land libphonenumber as it's a source package, but we have to land dialer-app along with the libphonenumber change. But the vivid silo now complains about versioning of dialer-app. how should I proceed?
[14:58] <xavigarcia> trainguards: hey guys, one question... I see silo 46 landed. Just would like to know if it landed for ota-8 or ota-9
[14:58] <xavigarcia> trainguards: please note that the silo adds some new strings that need to be translated
[14:59] <sil2100> salem_: I'm on holidays right now but let me try taking a quick look
[15:00] <sil2100> salem_: ok, seeing the vivid silo it seems dialer-app needs a rebuild
[15:05] <xavigarcia> sil2100, Hi there... sorry to bother you, I know you are off today... silo 46 landed and in case it landed in ota-8 I think we might have problems... the silo adds new strings that I'm not sure are translated
[15:06] <salem_> sil2100, I tried that, but I believe the problem here is that I am using the same MR on both silos. we usually do dual landing for dialer-app.
[15:06] <sil2100> salem_: ah, yeah, that won't do...
[15:07] <sil2100> salem_: you can just have a separate silo for just dialer-app if anything and dual land that there
[15:07] <sil2100> If, of course, you don't need to build against the new libphonenumber explicitly
[15:07] <salem_> sil2100, yes, we don't. I think I will end up doing that. thanks!
[15:08] <sil2100> salem_: this would make some things easier, and you can ask QA to for instance signoff both at once
[15:08] <salem_> sil2100, yeah, will do that. thanks for the help. enjoy your holidays :)
[15:09] <alecu> sil2100: sorry to bother, but we are concerned with xavigarcia about silo 46 being published
[15:09] <alecu> sil2100: we decided to delay it to OTA-9, but it seems that it was published yesterday: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-046-2-publish/27/
[15:10] <alecu> was it somehow published to OTA-8?
[15:11] <alecu> any other trainguard around? ^^^
[15:12] <sil2100> alecu: it was signed off so we landed it, it was rebuilt without the dep-changes right?
[15:13] <alecu> sil2100: yes, it was rebuilt without that, but it was bounced by cyphermox after that
[15:13] <alecu> sil2100: and since it was already late, we decided to postpone it to ota-9
[15:14] <alecu> we added a note about that to the silo: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/528
[15:14] <alecu> sil2100: the thing is that it adds a few strings that are very user-visible
[15:14] <alecu> those are shown whenever you change the volume
[15:15] <alecu> jibel: ^ should we revert it?
[15:15] <sil2100> hm, well, that's bad in that case
[15:15] <cyphermox> fwiw it wasn't just the dependency issues that bothered me, but also the fact that there are changes that have no relation to the changelog entry.
[15:15] <sil2100> cyphermox: those all were fixed, there were no packaging changes
[15:15] <sil2100> Since I was able to publish it with my powers
[15:15] <alecu> cyphermox: yes, I think you did right to bounce it at that point
[15:16] <cyphermox> I don't know; I still see these changes in the build job
[15:16] <sil2100> cyphermox: if there were packaging changes I wouldn't be able to publish as it's a main package
[15:16] <cyphermox> and on the publish job
[15:16] <sil2100> And I'm a MOTU
[15:16] <cyphermox> sil2100: it doesn't matter in this case, that wasn't the problem
[15:17] <cyphermox> my issue with it, and it looks unresolved, is that there are a dozen files added that aren't obviously mappable to adding OSD notifications
[15:18] <alecu> xavigarcia: cyphermox is right: the silo diff still seems to contain all of the testing harness
[15:18] <cyphermox> in other words, this is a new version, it probably should say that it's a new upstream version, or list the changes that introduce, for instance, the files in gmenuharness
[15:18] <renatu> Mirv, ping
[15:19] <cyphermox> I realize this is likely tests, but it's not so good to include changes that aren't listed in changelog
[15:19] <alecu> cyphermox: agreed.
[15:19] <alecu> so, should I ask to revert this?
[15:20] <cyphermox> alecu: I'm not sure I'd bother unless there is another reason to
[15:20] <alecu> cyphermox: the big reason is that this adds new strings, and that they are very user visible
[15:20] <xavigarcia> alecu, cyphermox: the files are present but are no longer compiled
[15:21] <cyphermox> xavigarcia: it's irrelevant, we don't necessarily see what is compiled and what isn't from a quick look at the diffs
[15:21] <cyphermox> alecu: strings aren't an issue for xenial, at least
[15:22] <cyphermox> for vivid, you need an SRU bug in which case it may be arguable.
[15:22] <boiko> trainguards: could you please remove dialer-app from silos 0 and 20 PPAs?
[15:23] <alecu> cyphermox: I think we only want to land in the phone vivid overlay, not in vivid itself
[15:24] <sil2100> boiko: done
[15:24] <alecu> cyphermox: and I worry if this has landed in the overlay, because ota-8 will have those strings untranslated.
[15:25] <cyphermox> alecu: that's up to you I suppose
[15:25] <boiko> sil2100: thanks
[15:25] <renatu> Mirv, could you get a silo for this? https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/ubuntu/vivid/qtpim-opensource-src/fix-1514350/+merge/277264
[15:28] <cyphermox> alecu: sil2100: shouldn't we be trying to land things for the overlay as SRUs as well though?
[15:28] <cyphermox> ie. not just in the overlay but also in vivid
[15:30] <boiko> sil2100: so, on silo 0, I removed dialer-app from the source package names, but it stills shows the silo as dirty saying dialer-app needs rebuilding
[15:51] <alecu> cyphermox: sorry, otp. I understand that the changes here apply to the phone, so we need the on the overlay, and I'm not sure about SRUing them
[15:51] <alecu> xavigarcia_: can you confirm that? ^
[15:55] <xavigarcia_> alecu: yeah, the changes apply to the phone
[15:56] <xavigarcia_> alecu: the desktop is not showing those strings
[15:56] <alecu> xavigarcia_: great
[16:05] <pmcgowan> another update just popped up
[16:09] <alecu> hi trainguards, may we ask to revert this landing? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/528
[16:10] <greyback> trainguards: this should really go in for ota8: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/627
[16:10] <greyback> I keep forgetting if I'm supposed to click "publish" or that's a guard's job
[16:12] <rvr> bfiller: ping
[16:21] <brendand> bzoltan_, can you return the favour and have someone look at https://code.launchpad.net/~brendan-donegan/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/swipe_into_view_keyboard/+merge/273805
[16:21] <brendand> bzoltan_, it's been sitting around for a while
[16:21] <bzoltan_> brendand: sure
[16:22] <brendand> bzoltan_, i just managed to do a full run without it crashing :/
[16:22] <brendand> bzoltan_, not really a good thing, but interesting
[16:22] <pmcgowan> greyback, yeah 44 can publish
[16:22] <bzoltan_> brendand: how did you do that???
[16:22] <bzoltan_> brendand: must be black magic
[16:23] <brendand> bzoltan_, luck maybe
[16:24] <bzoltan_> brendand: tomorrow I will eliminate 50% of the failures ... about that much fails because of the popover button introspection.
[16:24] <brendand> bzoltan_, yeah there were a lot of those
[16:24] <greyback> wtf
[16:31] <greyback> lousy luck, newer qtmir pushed to -proposed, but problem to fix on armhf xenial
[16:41] <rvr> jgdx: ping
[17:12] <robru> greyback: that silo was already published when you published it
[17:13] <greyback> robru: yeah? Sorry, the train made it look like it wasn't
[17:13] <rvr> boiko: ping
[17:13] <robru> greyback: look at the audit log on the ticket. sil2100 published it, it was migrating, you published it again
[17:13] <robru> greyback: what did it look like when you clicked published?
[17:13] <greyback> robru: ok, then was my bad timing
[17:13] <greyback> as it definitely had the QA signoff as the last thing in the log when I clicked publish
[17:14] <robru> greyback: the full log is hidden by default. the status would have said "x is in the proposed pocket" which means "this is already published" when you published.
[17:15] <greyback> robru: sure, that I know. Perhaps I hadn't hit F5 soon enough
[17:15] <greyback> robru: anything broken?
[17:15] <robru> greyback: doubtful: sil published it ~20 hours before you, and the page auto-refreshes every 3 minutes. ;-)
[17:15] <robru> greyback: no nothing broken. but probably worth checking why it's in proposed for so long
[17:16] <greyback> robru: yeah I'm trying to figure that out, something weird with xenial
[17:17] <robru> alecu: still want that reverted? I can do it if you're sure.
[17:19] <robru> tvoss: the train is technically capable of doing a xenial+wily silo but this isn't exposed in the UI because I'm not aware of a use case for it.
[17:19] <alecu> robru: yes, we'd like to revert that silo, please.
[17:20] <alecu> robru: thanks!
[17:24] <robru> alecu: just to confirm: you want to go back to 12.10.2+15.10.20151019-0ubuntu1 right? that's the one before the most recent upload.
[17:30] <robru> hmm
[17:31] <boiko> rvr: pong
[17:31] <rvr> boiko: Hi
[17:31] <boiko> rvr: hello
[17:31] <rvr> boiko: I'm testing silos 49 and 0
[17:31] <boiko> rvr: ok
[17:32] <rvr> boiko: I did a dial-number /ril_0 123456789#1 and worked
[17:32] <rvr> boiko: Do you need any specific test?
[17:32] <rvr> (also tried with the dialer app, manually)
[17:33] <boiko> rvr: nope, that's it, and also make sure you create a contact with a number including a #, and try to call from address-book-app
[17:33] <rvr> boiko: Nice, trying...
[17:34] <boiko> rvr: why is 55 blocked?
[17:35] <rvr> boiko: Cannot reproduce
[17:35] <boiko> rvr: ah ok, in any case, the fix is harmless, in dialer-app's live call view there will be only at most one header section, so we just set the selectedIndex to zero
[17:36] <alecu> robru: if that's the previous version, then yes. Where can I check all the versions?
[17:37] <robru> alecu: sorry, that didn't work, apparently reverts don't work on dual silos. switched to revert in vivid only and now it's reverting down to 20151014. but it looks like that is the second most recent version in the overlay:
[17:37] <robru> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+packages?field.name_filter=indicator-sound&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=vivid
[17:40] <boiko> rvr: you tried to reproduce in the latest rc-proposed?
[17:40] <robru> alecu: once it's built I'll get you to review the diff to make sure it has sensible contents.
[17:41] <rvr> boiko: Yes
[17:41] <robru> alecu: also this revert will only be in vivid, it won't revert your trunk or anything, so you'll be able to keep developing on your same code until you're ready to release again
[17:41] <boiko> rvr: let me try here
[17:42] <rvr> boiko: Address book and messaging app can dial to numbers with #
[17:42] <boiko> rvr: great! so the problem is fixed
[17:43] <rvr> boiko: I'm going to do some extra sanity checks, and will approve is everything is fine.
[17:45] <boiko> rvr: thanks
[17:54] <alecu> robru: sounds great, thanks
[17:55] <alecu> robru: when you say that the revert will be in vivid, do you mean the overlay?
[17:55] <robru> alecu: yeah
[17:56] <robru> alecu: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-057-1-build/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/indicator-sound_content.diff/*view*/ this looks a little weird to me
[17:59] <robru> alecu: aside from the changelog being completely nuts, do the code changes make sense to you?
[18:00] <robru> alecu: my reading of that diff is that there are 52 files just being totally removed. does that sound right? the most recent landing added 52 new files?
[18:05] <pmcgowan> xavigarcia, ^^
[18:07] <robru> pmcgowan: xavigarcia alecu: if that diff is not correct, I'm not sure what went wrong or how to fix it. You'll have to prepare your own merge to revert the changes you don't want. Sorry guys
[18:12] <xavigarcia> robru: what error do you get?
[18:13] <robru> xavigarcia: what? I don't get an error. I built a package that is ostensibly a revert of the last release except the contents make no sense to me, i want you to review it: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-057-1-build/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/indicator-sound_content.diff/*view*/
[18:13] <xavigarcia> robru: ok... let me take a look
[18:16] <alecu> robru: sorry, was having a late lunch
[18:21] <rvr> boiko: Could you reproduce the label issue with latest rc-proposed?
[18:22] <xavigarcia> robru: diff looks fine to me
[18:23] <xavigarcia> robru: there were many new files in that silo
[18:23] <robru> xavigarcia: ok, with your approval I'll release that to vivid overlay then.
[18:23] <boiko> rvr: nops, not happening, but still, the fix is correct, we cannot rely on the SDK selecting anything by default
[18:26] <robru> pmcgowan: alecu: xavigarcia: ok the package is now in vivid overlay, so ota8 won't contain the most recent landing. feel free to make a new landing when you're ready
[18:27] <alecu> robru: yay! \o/
[18:27] <alecu> robru: thanks a lot.
[18:27] <xavigarcia> robru: thanks!
[18:27] <robru> alecu: xavigarcia: you're welcome
[18:39] <rvr> boiko: I see
[18:40] <rvr> boiko: I think it first needs to set a default SIM
[18:42] <boiko> rvr: well, shouldn't make a difference, but who knows? :)
[18:55] <rvr> boiko: Approving silos 49 and 0
[18:56] <boiko> rvr: great! thanks!
[18:56] <boiko> rvr: with that in mind, I think it is a good idea to also approve silo 20 (which is the xenial silo for the libphonenumber changes)
[18:57] <boiko> pmcgowan: should I go ahead and merge those?
[18:57] <boiko> s/merge/publish/
[18:57] <pmcgowan> sure they are happroved
[18:57] <boiko> \o/
[19:24] <rvr> boiko: davmor2: Approving silo 55.
[19:25] <davmor2> rvr: nice
[19:25] <rvr> Err
[19:38] <boiko> trainguards: publishing silo 0 failed because it says it's dirty, that dialer-app needs rebuilding, but dialer-app is not on that silo anymore
[19:39] <boiko> rvr: davmor2: great! thanks, I will just have to rebuild that after silo 49 lands
[19:41] <boiko> robru: could you please check what is going on with silo 0?
[19:57] <robru> boiko: one sec
[19:59] <boiko> robru: thanks
[20:00] <robru> boiko: ok, had to manually drop dialer-app from inside jenkins' local silo dir, just doing a WATCH_ONLY to clear up the status, should be ready to publish as soon as that finishes
[20:00] <robru> there
[20:01] <robru> brb
[20:02] <boiko> robru: thanks
[20:08] <boiko> robru: turns out I am not authorized to publish libphonenumber, could you please publish it?
[20:08] <robru> boiko: if you're not authorized, neither am i. You need a core dev
[20:09] <boiko> robru: anyone here who could do that?
[20:10] <davmor2> boiko: slangasek might be able to help
[20:10] <robru> boiko: i usually poke kenvandine or mterry
[20:10] <slangasek> it's a US holiday today
[20:11] <davmor2> boiko: don't forget to land 20 too
[20:11] <slangasek> but I happen to be around so I'll have a look
[20:11] <boiko> davmor2: that's my next question: do you guys need to validate it?
[20:11] <boiko> davmor2: it is the same changes as silo 0, but targetting xenial
[20:11] <boiko> slangasek: thanks
[20:11] <davmor2> boiko: we don't touch xenial yet
[20:12] <boiko> davmor2: so it is just landing and that's it?
[20:12] <davmor2> boiko: that can just land the important one was 49 which touches both
[20:12] <davmor2> boiko: yeap
[20:12] <boiko> davmor2: ok, let me change the silo
[20:13] <boiko> slangasek: if that's not asking too much, could you please publish silo 20 too? (same changes as silo 0, but for xenial)
[20:15] <slangasek> boiko: I'm surprised by the version number of the libphonenumber package for vivid; is this targeted as an SRU, or for the phone overlay ppa?
[20:16] <boiko> slangasek: phone overlay
[20:16] <slangasek> boiko: then it must not use this version number, which is reserved for SRUs
[20:16] <boiko> slangasek: ah, I think that's missing in the silo
[20:17] <boiko> slangasek: what version number would be fine?
[20:17] <slangasek> boiko: the previous changelog entries show '6.0+r655-0ubuntu7vivid1', '6.0+r655-0ubuntu7vivid2' - something in that vein is probably ok
[20:17] <slangasek> robru: ^^ is there a specific numbering convention boiko should use here?
[20:18] <boiko> I think kenvandine advised salem_ to use that version number
[20:18] <slangasek> mm
[20:18] <boiko> not sure why
[20:18] <slangasek> well, unless it's targeted for SRU, it's wrong and a problem
[20:19] <slangasek> as it would lead to any later SRU of libphonenumber in vivid having the same number but different content
[20:19] <robru> slangasek: boiko: train only enforces a certain version for MPs, so no preference on my end for manual sources
[20:20] <slangasek> robru: sure, but what's the convention? maybe there's something we can use for consistency
[20:20] <boiko> I have no preference either (and no knowledge about the policies for that)
[20:21] <robru> slangasek: well it would be upstream+15.04.YYYYMMDD-0ubuntu1
[20:21] <slangasek> right
[20:21] <slangasek> so no help for this ;)
[20:21] <robru> Maybe Ken thought it was an SRU
[20:21] <boiko> robru: would it be possible to tweak the versioning in the silo ppa, or do we have to go through all the uploading, building, etc again?
[20:22] <slangasek> the package needs reuploaded and rebuilt
[20:22] <robru> slangasek: I'm not sure why the existing version has +rNNN in it, not familiar with that convention. I mean i get it's a revno but dunno who's idea that was
[20:22] <robru> boiko: no way to change the version without a new upload
[20:23] <boiko> robru: ok, I will ask salem_ to provide a new package, which version you advise us to use? I have really no idea there :)
[20:24] <robru> boiko: i guess 6.0+15.04.20151111-0ubuntu1 unless anybody has a good reason to keep the revno in there
[20:24] <boiko> salem_: ^
[20:25] <boiko> salem_: can you provide a package with that versioning?
[20:26] <boiko> slangasek: what about the version in silo 20? is that one ok?
[20:26] <salem_> robru, boiko sure, but it doesn't match the previous versions in the overlay ppa, is that ok?
[20:26] <salem_> last one was 6.0+r655-0ubuntu7vivid2
[20:26] <boiko> slangasek: 7.0.8-0ubuntu3
[20:26] <boiko> slangasek: (for xenial)
[20:28] <robru> boiko: salem_: wait, that version I said isn't actually higher than the one already there
[20:29] <robru> boiko: salem_: I guess just use 6.0+r655-0ubuntu7vivid3 or something. I don't know where that scheme came from
[20:30] <robru> boiko: salem_: if you guys ever do a 6.0.1 or a 6.1 it'd be nice to switch to the train style versions for consistency
[20:31] <boiko> robru: we are not upstreams for that, I think kenvandine wanted to change the packaging to be able to do dual landings, that might include fixing the versioning
[20:36] <slangasek> boiko: yes that version is ok for xenial
[20:36] <boiko> slangasek: would you mind publishing it then?
[20:37] <slangasek> boiko: I haven't looked at the actual package yet - what's the ticket number?
[20:38] <boiko> slangasek: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/622
[20:43] <slangasek> boiko: ok, publishing
[20:43] <boiko> slangasek: thanks!
[20:45] <boiko> robru: package with the right versioning (we used 6.0+r655-0ubuntu7vivid3) building in a ppa on my launchpad page, I'll let you know when it finishes so that you copy it to the silo 0 ppa
[20:46] <robru> boiko: is your ppa devirt? If not we can just do a source copy now
[20:47] <boiko> robru: what is devirt? If I am supposed to know, then my PPA is not :D
[20:47] <boiko> robru: https://launchpad.net/~boiko/+archive/ubuntu/source-uploads/+packages
[20:49] <robru> boiko: yeah train PPAs have special builders, so i can't binary copy, have to source copy and rebuild.
[20:49] <boiko> robru: that's fine
[20:51] <boiko> robru: thanks
[20:52] <robru> boiko: UGH that version is lower than the version in the PPA
[20:52] <boiko> robru: yeah, I guess so
[20:52] <robru> boiko: let's free the ppa and get you a new one
[20:52] <boiko> robru: ok
[20:52] <robru> boiko: I'll do it
[20:58] <robru> boiko: OK building in silo 6 now, when it finishes please give it a quick smoketest to make sure nothing exploded in the rebuild
[20:58] <boiko> robru: sure thing, thanks for the help
[20:59] <robru> boiko: you're welcome
[21:30] <boiko> robru: all good with silo 6
[21:31] <boiko> slangasek: if you are still around, mind publishing it? we had to reassign the silo to fix the version: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/623
[21:35] <boiko> pmcgowan: if slangasek is not around anymore, we just need a core dev to publish silo 6, all the other dialer-app related silos are publishing already
[21:37] <pmcgowan> boiko, wonder who is working
[21:38] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, ?;)
[21:39] <pmcgowan> maybe cyphermox is around
[21:52] <cyphermox> what's up?
[21:56] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, hey, we want to publish silo 6
[21:57] <cyphermox> libphonenumber?
[21:57] <pmcgowan> yes
[21:58] <cyphermox> ok
[21:59] <pmcgowan> ty
[21:59] <cyphermox> tiagosh, boiko: usually I'd expect to see comments in the patch following the DEP-3 patch tagging guidelines, but I'm not going to block that publishing on it
[21:59] <cyphermox> http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/
[22:00] <cyphermox> note that there's another issue with the package, the version number isn't sustainable, as soon we'll be at something that might not map as being bigger than z, so it would be better to use release numbers rather than release codenames in the version number.
[22:00] <cyphermox> (by that I mean the "vivid" in 6.0+r655-0ubuntu7vivid3)
[22:01] * cyphermox presses the buttons
[22:03] <cyphermox> please make sure this lands in xenial too; as well as an SRU in the appropriate releases as necessary.
[22:03] <cyphermox> oh, I see it's already in xenial
[22:06] <pmcgowan> cyphermox, thanks
[22:07] <cyphermox> fwiw: # as a dialable char, useful ;)
[22:10] <pmcgowan> indeed
[22:11] <boiko> cyphermox: thanks
[22:12] <robru> cyphermox: yeah i mentioned already getting them on the train version scheme but unfortunately "15.04" isn't newer than "r655" so it won't work until they bump the upstream number.
[22:13] <cyphermox> robru: you could just replace "vivid3" ".15.04.3" or something to that effect
[22:14] <robru> cyphermox: i think that would interfere with the SRU versioning
[22:14] <cyphermox> plus given that we just do snapshots all the time, the upstream version numbers are close to meaningless, except for here when we're doing sru
[22:14] <cyphermox> robru: not that much
[22:14] <robru> cyphermox: are we the upstream of this project? If so why is it not using MPs?
[22:15] <cyphermox> it just needs some extra fudging, like adding a .$n more above whatever version is SRU'd to vivid
[22:15] <robru> boiko: ^^
[22:15] <cyphermox> robru: there's always a way to make the version numbering work for what we need it to do, without using release codenames
[22:16] <robru> cyphermox: yeah i agree the codenames are bad in version numbers
[22:17] <robru> cyphermox: ironically this whole mess started because Steve rejected "0ubuntu7.1" as a version because it would conflict with SRU versioning
[22:17] <cyphermox> sure
[22:17] <cyphermox> I mean, it's true that it would
[22:17] <cyphermox> what you want is probably always something higher than whatever might be in vivid-proposed until you merge between proposed and overlay
[22:18] <cyphermox> so, 0ubuntu8~15.04.1 ?
[22:19] <cyphermox> as opposed to the SRUs which will always grow from 0ubuntu7
[22:19] <cyphermox> but all this quickly becomes quite ugly
[22:19] <robru> cyphermox: yeah tilde is probably better for wedging versions in between other versions
[22:20] <cyphermox> IMHO the overlay needs to disappear and we need to find some way to be more agile at doing SRUs, which is a process we already are pretty good at I think
[22:21] <cyphermox> either that or getting back to the ubuntu-rtm derived distro?
[22:22] <robru> cyphermox: agree that overlay PPA is a gross hack, but disagree about SRUs. In my experience they take months of pain each. Better solution is just build phone images on dev series
[22:22] <robru> cyphermox: rtm was a bad idea, let's never mention it again
[22:27] <cyphermox> robru: I don't know that I'm sure of that.
[22:28] <cyphermox> and let's not fool ourselves, the overlay PPA is SRUs, just with relaxed regression checking.
[22:28] <cyphermox> bbl, I need to make a phone call :/
[22:28] <robru> cyphermox: yeah, "relaxed regression testing" meaning "not having to wait months for your SRU to get approved"
[22:29] <cyphermox> you don't have to wait months to get SRUs approved; if you do it right it can take just 7 days, just long enough to have a bit more assurance in proposed that things aren't breaking
[22:30] <robru> cyphermox: heh, "just 7 days", we fly by the seat of our pants in phone land.
[22:30] <robru> cyphermox: pat is currently freaking out because a 9 hour delay on an image build is too long.
[22:30] <cyphermox> I'm not saying either option is perfect.
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-si
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[06:54] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon: sem iz lj ja
[06:54] <pitastrudl> jutro
[06:56] <napsy> jutro
[08:46] <CrazyLemon> fckin megla!
[08:57] <slax0r> kje?
[08:57] <slax0r> prav lepo soncno je
[09:02] <CrazyLemon> na obali!
[09:02] <CrazyLemon> fckers!
[09:02] <CrazyLemon> also https://twitter.com/tyschew/status/664355991635501057
[09:02] <Pepelka> tamo neki auf Twitter: "Pot ob žici - zdaj že s štartom v Siriji. #dogodek2016"
[09:08] <pitastrudl> matjaz: isti torent mi je zloudalo
[09:21] <zdobbie> hnnnnnngg http://www.anandtech.com/show/9779/nvidia-announces-jetson-tx1-tegra-x1-module-development-kit
[09:21] <Pepelka> NVIDIA Announces Jetson TX1 - A Tegra X1 Module & Development Kit
[09:27] <CrazyLemon> old
[09:27] <zdobbie> ur old
[09:27] <zdobbie> like, acutally
[09:27] <CrazyLemon> like..ACTUALLY
[09:27] <CrazyLemon> you see what i did there
[09:27] <zdobbie> admitted ur old?
[09:28] <CrazyLemon> yes and also corrected you
[10:12] <msev-> pr temule pbuilderju moram pazt kašn proc. mam ane, če je 32-bit al 64-biten ane
[10:42] <CrazyLemon> msev- ja
[10:42] <CrazyLemon> taprav architecture moraš izbrat
[10:42] <CrazyLemon> sej ko bo dz0ny mel čas lahko on kaj pokomentira.. on se je zihr velikokrat s tem ukvarjal
[10:42] <msev-> bolš ja
[10:43] <msev-> k sm gledu man page pa sm mel take oči -> X.X
[10:43] <msev-> O.O
[10:43] <msev-> tole nam mogu sam lol blage
[10:44] <CrazyLemon> msev- sej imaš na tistem githubu sample pbuilder confa
[10:44] <CrazyLemon> tistega vzameš pa ga spremeniš tko da tebi ustreza
[10:45] <msev-> mi ne pomaga ta sample :D
[10:46] <msev-> že mirrorsite me zbega
[10:46] <msev-> :D
[10:46] <msev-> če ma kdo že narjenga za ubuntu bi blo najs :)
[10:51] <yang> .vreme lj
[10:51] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 14.9°C @11.11.2015 10:30 UTC.
[10:51] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 59% južni veter 0.6 m/s (2.2 km/h)
[10:51] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:57:30, Kulminacija: 10:47:16, Sončni zahod: 15:37:02
[10:51] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 39min 31s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:51] <yang> uf kaj je toplo
[10:52] <yang> noro
[10:52] <yang> .vreme koper
[10:52] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 11.8°C @11.11.2015 10:30 UTC.
[10:52] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 98% severovzhodnik 0.7 m/s (2.5 km/h)
[10:52] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:59:20, Kulminacija: 10:50:25, Sončni zahod: 15:41:30
[10:52] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 42min 10s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:52] <CrazyLemon> not here!
[10:54] <msev-> kako vlažno
[10:55] <zdobersek> .vreme Celje
[10:55] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 15°C @11.11.2015 10:00 UTC.
[10:55] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 61% južni veter 0.7 m/s (2.5 km/h)
[10:55] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:54:59, Kulminacija: 10:44:16, Sončni zahod: 15:33:33
[10:55] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 38min 35s, Luna je v ščipu
[11:19] <zdobersek> rrrrrekt http://www.vijesti.rtl.hr/video/vijesti/83921/slovenija-zbog-izbjeglica-podize-zicu-a-zoran-sprajc-im-otkriva-novu-rutu-do-dezele/
[11:19] <Pepelka> Video: Slovenija zbog izbjeglica podiže žicu, a Zoran Šprajc im otkriva novu rutu do Dežele! — Vijesti.hr
[11:20] <Pepelka> »Da Slovenci i razvuku žicu svih 600 kilometara granice duž Hrvatske, zaboravili su zapriječiti svoje čuveno more zbog kojeg se inače desetljećima sude s Hrvatskom.«
[11:28] <CrazyLemon> so not true
[11:28] <CrazyLemon> sm bil prejšnjo soboto tam pa ni več pedalinov
[11:28] <CrazyLemon> pendolinov? karkoli pač
[11:41] <zdobbie> aha, a tak
[11:41] <zdobbie> Hrvati spet zavajajo!
[11:42] <zdobbie> you start with the Double Irish, and end up with http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1111/741064-apple-jobs-cork/
[11:42] <Pepelka> Apple announces 1,000 jobs for Cork - RTÉ News
[11:42] <Pepelka> »Computer giant Apple has said it intends to expand its campus in Cork and provide space for 1,000 further staff by the middle of 2017.«
[11:45] <dz0ny> zdobersek: lol a to hrvaški onion news
[11:45] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: o cem ti to
[11:46] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny o pendolinih
[11:46] <dz0ny> ja se ne ukvarjam s tem :D but ok
[11:47] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny lies
[11:49] <zdobersek> ma neki crocomediani
[11:53] <zdobbie> steam machinke so prsle ven
[11:54] <dz0ny> BigWhale: a ti maš steam machine al sam stem controller?
[11:56] <zdobbie> mah
[11:56] <zdobbie> nbena se nima cene
[11:56] <zdobbie> alienwerka zgleda kul
[11:57] <CrazyLemon> seveda ima
[11:57] <CrazyLemon> syber al kaj je že
[11:59] <CrazyLemon> .yt syber steam machine
[11:59] <jabuk> Syber Vapor A PC/Gaming Console Review: It's Like a Super Powered X-Box! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_-NeYtcWr0
[12:03] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNWCRH8HQUI
[12:04] <Pepelka> L.G.C. |Unboxes| — Syber: Steam Machine P - YouTube
[12:04] <Pepelka> »Sandman does a quick and dirty unboxing of the Syber: Steam Machine P. SPECS: CPU: Intel Core i5 3.40 GHz CPU Socket Type: LGA 1150 Motherboard: Intel H81 Ch...«
[12:19] <CrazyLemon> http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/11/ggm_kupil_primorske_novice.aspx
[12:19] <Pepelka> Gašpar Mišič kupil šestino Primorskih novic | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[12:19] <Pepelka> »Komunala Koper na čelu z Gašparjem Gašparjem Mišičem je na današnji dražbi v Ajdovščini postala lastnica 16,9-odstotnega deleža Primorskih novic.«
[12:19] <CrazyLemon> why the fck komunala potrebuje PN?
[12:21] <zdobbie> shots fired http://i.imgur.com/eJeGkiG.jpg
[12:28] <Sky[x]> PN?
[12:28] <Sky[x]> aja casopis :)
[12:30] <zdobersek> mogoc cjo reciklirat
[12:52] <zdobersek> :| http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/11/amid-concerns-europes-most-funded-kickstarter-project-just-lost-its-ceo/
[12:52] <Pepelka> Europe’s most-funded Kickstarter project just lost its CEO | Ars Technica
[12:52] <Pepelka> »Few customers received a drone at all.«
[13:19] <yang> mogl bi drone narocit direkt od ameriske vojske, tisti bi bolje delal
[13:19] <napsy_> oh super, dans pa je produktivno tule
[13:20] <napsy_> nic kj mi ne rata naredit :/
[13:20] <zdobersek> same
[13:20] <zdobersek> prevroce je
[13:20] <yang> CrazyLemon: A mislis, da bo Gaspar Misic Misic objavljal misice na tisti eni sestini primorskih novic ?
[13:23] <yang> zdobersek: pejd na sprehod k je lepo vreme
[13:26] <zdobbie> meeeeh
[13:27] <yang> alpa na bicikel
[13:28] <yang> The new Stallman https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/applying-free-sw-criteria.html
[13:28] <Pepelka> Applying the Free Software Criteria- GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
[13:34] <upd> Koliko stane delnica?
[13:34] <upd> – Ena delnica stane 100 evrov, seveda pa jih lahko kupite tudi več. hahaha
[13:34] <upd> nova24tv..
[13:36] <zdobbie> http://nova24tv.si/slovenija/slovenke-v-frankfurtu-se-zaradi-varnosti-ze-pokrivajo-z-ruto/
[13:36] <Pepelka> Slovenka v Frankfurtu se zaradi varnosti že pokriva z ruto | Nova24TV
[13:36] <Pepelka> »Že od nekdaj so mi bile bližje majhne, na videz nepomembne zgodbe. Z ženskimi, na primer, se soočam malodane že več kot četrt stoletja. Vse, ki sem jih slišala, so bile povedane iz prve roke, brez odvečnih posrednikov, ki pogosto – hote ali nehote – kaj izpustijo, prilagodijo ali celo zatajijo, kar pač ne sodi v koncept, ki ga sami propagirajo. ''Moje'' ženske so bile še nedolgo tega (in marsikje so še) vredne in spoštovane dosti m
[13:37] <zdobbie> a je tko mrzlo tam
[13:38] <upd> hah točno to sem mislil bojo že pripravljene na zimo
[13:38] <upd> :DD:
[13:38] <zdobbie> mogoce je pa nova24tv tist neonazi honeypot
[13:39] <upd> škoda k nimam več botneta, bi jim en ddos spustu
[13:39] <zdobbie> #hekerji.si/2
[13:40] <upd> :))
[13:41] <yang> nevem zakaj se ne podpisejo pod objavljene clanke
[13:42] <zdobbie> milena miklavcic
[13:45] <yang> ta je celo na wikipediji
[14:06] <pitko> dan kaka mora bit confgiracija reprepro distribution fajla če hočem nek paket za armfh arhitekturo
[14:07] <pitko> k če dam not Codename: trusty Architectures: armhf Components: main
[14:07] <pitko> to ne dela
[14:15] <dz0ny> ja pol ga ni za armhf
[14:17] <slax0r> hurr durr
[15:07] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR6gvGdDsc4
[15:07] <Pepelka> Sense by F-Secure - YouTube
[15:07] <Pepelka> »Step into the world of the Internet of Things. Meet a totally new kind of security product. https://www.f-secure.com/havesense/«
[15:08] <zdobersek> root
[15:10] <CrazyLemon> basically vpn za iot
[15:27] <netkat> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tmbeLTHC₀
[15:27] <Pepelka> Dein Browser ist veraltet. Führe eine Aktualisierung aus. - YouTube
[15:27] <Pepelka> »Zeige deine Videos deinen Freunden, Familienmitgliedern und der ganzen Welt.«
[15:30] <msev-> dang a sm spet dz0nyja zgrešu :)
[15:30] <msev-> loh pa da me ma na ignore k ma dost mojih vprašanj :D
[15:34] <Sky[x]> lp
[15:34] <Sky[x]> kva zdj igrate na steam da si dol potegnem? :)
[15:35] <slax0r> goat simulator
[15:37] <Sky[x]> not free grrr
[15:45] <msev-> looool
[15:46] <slax0r> please excuse, what is funny?
[15:47] <Sky[x]> tam fortress2 sem se spomnu da sem igral :)
[15:59] <idioterna> zakaj mu ni noben povedu insurgency
[15:59] <idioterna> we need reinforcements
[15:59] <idioterna> k sm js tak hlo
[15:59] <idioterna> d
[16:19] <msev-> slax0r, a je goat sim tvoja najljubša igra :d
[16:28] <CrazyLemon> idioterna zato ker ni free
[16:30] <zdobbie> kdaj je insurgents-battling time?
[16:32] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie kr pejt na nap
[16:33] <CrazyLemon> !g insurgency checkpoint maps
[16:33] <Pepelka> List of Coop Maps/Gamemodes :: Insurgency Server Admin Support http://steamcommunity.com/app/222880/discussions/2/648817377889107044/
[16:34] <CrazyLemon> peak nismo še pa siege ane?
[16:34] <CrazyLemon> pa contact pa uprising
[16:37] <CrazyLemon> https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=222880&requiredtags[]=Checkpoint
[16:37] <CrazyLemon> !
[16:37] <Pepelka> Insurgency
[16:37] <Pepelka> »Insurgency Insurgency Workshop The Insurgency Workshop allows you to extend your game with custom content such as custom maps, weapon skins and more.Learn More«
[16:40] <idioterna> aja tocn
[16:40] <idioterna> a cmo open sourcat
[16:41] <yang> Če Gevara http://www.novosti.rs/vecernje_novosti/kupi_knjigu/prodavnica.46.html:prod-48-Ce-Gevara
[16:41] <Pepelka> Če Gevara | Knjige | Novosti.rs
[16:41] <Pepelka> »Biblioteka:Posebna izdanja Format:165 x 235 mmPovez:BrošBroj strana: 307Godina izdanja: 2011.ISBN:9788674461891_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ O knjizi_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Knjiga o Čeu je roman iz života i roman iz novinarskog pera. Ernesto Gevara, nesuđeni lekar, romantični revolucionar, buntovnik sa razlog
[16:44] <zdobbie> a je v insurgencyju mozno videt status nabojev, al je to poanta tega realisma?
[16:45] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie mogoče obstaja kak mod..sam privzeto ni mogoče videt ne
[16:46] <zdobbie> tist always-on kompas sem urihtu
[16:46] <CrazyLemon> js mam za caps lock naštiman "enemy $there"
[16:47] <CrazyLemon> zato včasih v chat pišem z velikimi :D
[16:47] <CrazyLemon> pa mouse4 za primary/secondary weapon switch
[16:48] <zdobbie> al si fin
[16:48] <zdobbie> z vec ko tremi gumbi
[16:49] <CrazyLemon> :$
[17:34] <pitko> dz0ny si tuki?
[17:34] <dz0ny> vedno
[17:35] <pitko> te lahko mal zmotm?
[17:37] <dz0ny> ask
[17:42] <msev-> evo dz0ny je tuki zakon :)
[17:42] <msev-> še js bi te neki prašov
[17:42] <dz0ny> lets dance :D
[17:42] <msev-> a maš slučajn pbuilder naštiman da ti dela pakete na ubuntuju? :)
[17:42] <dz0ny> nope
[17:42] <msev-> dang
[17:43] <msev-> a bi me znal vodt pri konfiguraciji?
[17:43] <msev-> tega pbuilder config fajla
[17:43] <msev-> Lah pa še mal počakava pa na ubuntu internacional kanalu prašam enga TJ-a k je tut dost prjazn za support, tko kt ti :D
[17:44] <dz0ny> msev-: I have never built app with pbuilder
[17:44] <msev-> okay :) pol raj TJ-a
[17:44] <dz0ny> vedno bootstrapam z chroot
[17:44] <msev-> da vidm če je on že
[17:45] <dz0ny> zakaj pa pbuilder rabiš
[17:45] <msev-> ti bom dal link
[17:45] <dz0ny> a ne boš poganjal na istem kot prevajaš?
[17:45] <msev-> https://github.com/tedsluis/dump1090
[17:45] <Pepelka> tedsluis/dump1090 · GitHub
[17:45] <Pepelka> »dump1090 - Dump1090 is a simple Mode S decoder for RTLSDR devices«
[17:45] <msev-> kle piše
[17:45] <msev-> spodej building from source
[17:45] <msev-> pa je ta konfig fajl spisan za RPI
[17:46] <msev-> js bi pa na netbooku laufov (32-bit cpu)
[17:46] <dz0ny> clone
[17:46] <dz0ny> make
[17:46] <msev-> aja a sam tko
[17:46] <msev-> to lahko :)
[17:46] <dz0ny> sudo cp dump1090 /usr/sbin
[17:46] <dz0ny> sudo cp view1090 /usr/sbin
[17:46] <dz0ny> jah sej ne rabiš paketa delat
[17:46] <dz0ny> :D
[17:46] <msev-> k prejšnjo verzijo k je mela nekaj mn advance featuresov sm lahko z makeom pognal
[17:46] <msev-> sam kle pa piše od t eh paketov
[17:47] <msev-> ok, če lah pol normalno z make pol nema blema
[17:47] <msev-> odlično :D
[17:47] <dz0ny> pa te pakete namesti https://github.com/tedsluis/dump1090/blob/master/debian/control#L5
[17:47] <Pepelka> dump1090/control at master · tedsluis/dump1090 · GitHub
[17:47] <Pepelka> »dump1090 - Dump1090 is a simple Mode S decoder for RTLSDR devices«
[17:48] <msev-> teli dodatki me zanimajo https://github.com/tedsluis/dump1090/commits/master
[17:48] <Pepelka> Commits · tedsluis/dump1090 · GitHub
[17:48] <Pepelka> »dump1090 - Dump1090 is a simple Mode S decoder for RTLSDR devices«
[17:48] <msev-> kr je tale tedsluis dodal nadalje, in ne tist osnovn od malcolmrobba
[17:48] <msev-> bom mislm da jih mam že vse
[17:48] <msev-> razn mogoče debhelperja nimam sam sj a to rabm?
[17:48] <msev-> če ne bom paketa delov
[18:19] <CrazyLemon> mlečni riž + nutella = win
[18:19] <jabuk> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rmJLwpPevTg/UOEBgVNiVFI/AAAAAAAAFFY/-At3Z_DzBbw/s1600/dancing+charlie+murphy+animated+gif+victory+dance.gif
[18:23] <jabuk> M 2.1 > 32.km J od IZOLE @11/11/2015 19:13:57 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.27+N,+13.52+E
[18:27] <dz0ny> msev-: je začel logično sklepat :D
[18:32] <pitko> dz0ny evo me am vprašanje mam en deb paket
[18:33] <pitko> pa reprepro na ubuntu serverju
[18:33] <pitko> in mi piše skos da je narobna aritektura k hočem nardi repo
[18:34] <pitko> napaka: Error: packages database contains unused 'trusty|main|amd64' database. This usually means you removed some component, architecture or even a whole distribution from conf/distributions.
[18:34] <dz0ny> jaz bi predlagal aptly
[18:34] <pitko> ok ql
[18:34] <pitko> menam
[18:34] <pitko> ti veš
[18:34] <pitko> mislm ta deb paket je mono
[18:36] <pitko> pač problem je o tem da firma ne zaumpa tem ppajem
[18:36] <pitko> :)
[18:36] <dz0ny> ti bi si rad svoj apt repo naredu
[18:36] <dz0ny> mhm
[18:36] <pitko> ja
[18:36] <dz0ny> aptly je glih za to
[18:36] <pitko> ql!
[18:36] <dz0ny> lahko nardiš snapshote nekih repotov
[18:36] <dz0ny> al pa svoj custom repo
[18:36] <dz0ny> tkole mamo za nek neimenovan stack
[18:37] <dz0ny> aptly -config apt_repo/.aptly.conf repo create -distribution=stable -component=main stack-release1.0
[18:37] <dz0ny> aptly -config apt_repo/.aptly.conf repo add ebn-release apt_repo/packages/*.deb
[18:37] <dz0ny> aptly -config apt_repo/.aptly.conf snapshot create stack from repo stack-release1.0
[18:37] <dz0ny> aptly -config apt_repo/.aptly.conf publish snapshot -architectures=amd64,i386
[18:37] <dz0ny> pa vse skupaj gre na s3 :)
[18:37] <pitko> pač fora je hočjo met pohitren postopek za nameščanje monota
[18:37] <pitko> sam enostavno ne gre hitrej
[18:37] <dz0ny> sam zate bo verjetno ena mapa dovolj
[18:38] <pitko> kukr nek deb paket monota
[18:38] <dz0ny> ja lahko vse deb odpakiraš nardiš en velik paket
[18:38] <dz0ny> pa nazaj zapakiraš
[18:38] <pitko> ja in to bo hitrej?
[18:39] <dz0ny> depends jaz to počnem ker pomečen neumnosti ki jih drugi zapakirajo :D
[18:39] <dz0ny> pa da ne rebuildam glih vsega
[18:39] <pitko> mislm neka čudna načela hočejo uvajat
[18:39] <pitko> to je veš folk
[18:39] <pitko> k dela z MS tehnologijami
[18:39] <pitko> konstantno
[18:40] <pitko> in tut paket k bo narjen je storitev napsana v asp.netu
[18:41] <dz0ny> mhm razumem
[18:41] <dz0ny> v teoriji lahko vse zapakiraš v en deb in je to to
[18:41] <dz0ny> thin windows exe
[18:41] <dz0ny> think*
[18:41] <pitko> ja
[18:41] <pitko> sej bom mogu
[18:41] <pitko> k so neki dllji not pa neki
[18:41] <dz0ny> pitko: https://github.com/dz0ny/cdeb
[18:41] <Pepelka> dz0ny/cdeb · GitHub
[18:42] <Pepelka> »cdeb - Just like fpm but in go and only for deb... Why? Because who has time to deal with ruby«
[18:42] <pitko> o najs
[18:42] <pitko> bom ponucal
[18:42] <pitko> to rabm :)
[18:43] <dz0ny> pa še na windows lahko ta deb paket nardi :D
[18:43] <pitko> WOW
[18:43] <pitko> čak to si ti spisal?
[18:43] <dz0ny> mhm
[18:43] <pitko> kral
[18:43] <dz0ny> mamo še https://github.com/dz0ny/qapt
[18:43] <pitko> lahko ponucam?
[18:43] <Pepelka> dz0ny/qapt · GitHub
[18:43] <Pepelka> »qapt - Small to medium debian repository manager«
[18:44] <dz0ny> sam se moram zmenit če je za odpret :)
[18:44] <pitko> http://www.niteoweb.com/ tle ti delaš?
[18:44] <Pepelka> We build cool stuff for the web - NiteoWeb
[18:44] <Pepelka> »NiteoWeb is a company employing tech enthusiasts from all over the world who love to build cool stuff.«
[18:44] <pitko> :)
[18:44] <dz0ny> mhm
[18:44] <pitko> WOW
[18:44] <pitko> :O
[18:45] <pitko> go to je un programski jezik od gogla ne
[18:45] <dz0ny> jp
[18:45] <dz0ny> od rob pike and others
[18:46] <pitko> in kako je jezik?
[18:47] <dz0ny> great :)
[18:48] <pitko> jaz zdej sicer nekako integreram neke enterprise projekt na linux okolje
[18:49] <dz0ny> mono je men wierd
[18:49] <dz0ny> an z unim clr on ms se ne da nič nardit?
[18:49] <pitko> ja
[18:49] <pitko> ja
[18:49] <pitko> to vidš!
[18:49] <pitko> končno en
[18:49] <pitko> :)
[18:49] <zdobbie> kvaj
[18:49] <dz0ny> ja folk še kr mono fura
[18:49] <pitko> zdej sm kumej prepričal da naj dela projekt v aps.net 5
[18:50] <pitko> k se bilda drgač
[18:50] <pitko> brez monota
[18:50] <pitko> pa dependenciji snamejo iz nugeta
[18:50] <zdobbie> asp.net?
[18:50] <dz0ny> no more copying stuff around
[18:50] <dz0ny> .net
[18:50] <pitko> jap
[18:50] <zdobbie> jaysus
[18:50] <pitko> carsko
[18:51] <pitko> aps.net bo itq podeju javo za malco
[18:51] <pitko> pojedu*
[18:51] <pitko> mislm
[18:51] <pitko> c#
[18:52] <pitko> bo pojedu javo
[18:55] <zdobbie> omnomnomnomnomnom
[18:57] <pitko> :D
[18:57] <pitko> dz0ny k to majo poslovalnico v sloveniji?
[19:02] <pitko> hvala za informacije!
[19:13] <dz0ny> pitko: da
[19:18] <idioterna> ej zdobbie CrazyLemon
[19:18] <idioterna> al-atak
[19:23] <CrazyLemon> idioterna js pridem čez 15-20min
[19:24] <zdobbie> nisi resen
[19:25] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie a man has to eat!
[19:42] <idioterna> sm mislu da si trot :)
[20:04] <jabuk> M 2.3 > 16.km S od HUMINA (GEMONA DEL FRIULI, ITALI @11/11/2015 20:46:42 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.41+N,+13.21+E
[20:06] <yang> a kdo igra mogoce une MUD igre al kako, k se preko telneta igrajo
[20:06] <yang> obstaja kaksna taka zanimiva igra ?
[20:08] <idioterna> ful jih obstaja
[20:16] <yang> ali se kaksno od teh iger razvijajo ?
[20:16] <idioterna> sure
[20:16] <idioterna> sam ti pejt kr insurgency
[20:16] <idioterna> je bols
[20:16] <idioterna> loh sandniggerje pa towelheadse strelas
[20:17] <yang> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_MUDs kle zgleda da je bla zadnja narejena 2002
[20:17] <Pepelka> Chronology of MUDs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[20:18] <yang> nikol nisem MUDov igral
[20:36] <msev-> dz0ny, to sm zih zj začeu logičn razmišlat zato k sm uno kodo bral haha :D
[21:26] <zdobbie> ggwp
[21:26] <CrazyLemon> o/
[21:33] <jabuk> M 1.9 > 8.km S od HUMINA (GEMONA DEL FRIULI, ITALI @11/11/2015 22:20:36 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.35+N,+13.11+E
[21:39] <jabuk> M 1.9 > 15.km S od HUMINA (GEMONA DEL FRIULI, ITALI @11/11/2015 22:20:35 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.41+N,+13.15+E
[22:05] <CrazyLemon> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/court-docs-show-a-university-helped-fbi-bust-silk-road-2-child-porn-suspects
[22:05] <Pepelka> Court Docs Show a University Helped FBI Bust Silk Road 2, Child Porn Suspects | Motherboard
[22:05] <Pepelka> »A 'university-based research institute' was crucial to the busts of a Silk Road 2.0 staffer and suspected child abuser.«
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[13:44] <wh1te-r01e> hey
[13:45] <wh1te-r01e> !!
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-africa
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[07:31] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[07:31] <Kilos> another scorcher here today
[17:14] <melodie_> hi
[17:14] <melodie_> hello Kilos elacheche and everyone!
[17:21] <Kilos> hi there melodie_
[17:22] <melodie_> hi Kilos !
[17:23] <melodie_> how are you and how have you been?
[17:23] <melodie_> finished with the operations hopefully?
[17:23] <Kilos> well ty and you
[17:25] <Kilos> yes op done and busy healing ty
[17:32] <Na3iL> o/
[17:41] <melodie_> Kilos fine, and working on a new collaborative website!
[17:41] <melodie_> hi Na3iL !
[17:41] <Na3iL> Hey melodie_ :)
[17:42] <melodie_> :)
[17:43] <Na3iL> hows you
[17:47] <melodie_> quite well, thank you!
[17:48] <Na3iL> as usual bored x)
[17:59] <melodie_> why that?
[18:00] <Na3iL> Nothing to do
[18:08] <melodie_> too bad
[18:08] <melodie_> can I give you my todo? Maybe there is something you could offer to help with?
[18:14] <Na3iL> sure :) send it here, & I will back, GTG
[18:20] <melodie_> argh
[18:21] <melodie_> come back! :D
[20:44] <melodie_> hi elacheche nizarus d4rk-5c0rp Benno-007
[20:45] <d4rk-5c0rp> melodie_, nizarus Benno-007 0/
[20:45] <nizarus> salam melodie_
[20:49] <melodie_> salam nizarus
[21:00] <elacheche_anis> hey melodie_ ! wassup!
[21:09] <melodie_> hello elacheche_anis !
[21:09] <melodie_> a new website!
[21:09] <melodie_> here, Bentovillage and subsites! http://bentovillage.me
[21:10] <melodie_> and http://bentovillage.me/todo and http://bentovillage.me/documentation and coming soon we can try buddypress as a fourth subsite! :D
[21:10] <elacheche_anis> cool congrats melodie_ :D
[21:11] <melodie_> thanks :)
[21:11] <elacheche_anis> nizarus: Tu aimeras peut être le projet de melodie_ ;) :)
[21:12] <melodie_> j'espère attirer beaucoup de nouveaux contributeurs en effet :)
[21:13] <elacheche_anis> hope so :)
[21:13] <melodie_> thank you again
[21:14] <elacheche_anis> melodie_: you did't tweet about it?
[21:16] <nizarus> une version light de ubuntu :)
[21:16] <melodie_> nizarus :)
[21:17] <melodie_> la prochaine version sera une 64bits mise à jour directement depuis un serveur de chez gandi.net, et donc disponible plus rapidement que d'habitude
[21:17] <melodie_> elacheche_anis je n'ai pas encore fait le tour des réseaux, je viens juste de finir la traduction des posts du sous-site "todo et notes"
[21:17] <melodie_> en utilisant l'excellent plugin WPGlobus
[21:18] <melodie_> nizarus la version la plus à jour et la meilleure pour l'instant c'est la 32bits (trusty 14.04.3)
[21:18] <elacheche_anis> nice melodie_ ! When you tweet something ping me I'll share it ;)
[21:18] <melodie_> elacheche_anis alright!
[21:19] <melodie_> let me find your twitter account so I link to it!
[21:19] <nizarus> encore plus light que lubuntu ?
[21:19] <melodie_> nizarus selon un pote qui est en RdC oui
[21:19] <melodie_> :)
[21:19] <melodie_> en tout cas avec Bento pas difficile d'avoir une session totalement Openbox : c'est déjà le cas. :D
[21:20] <melodie_> par contre je ne sais toujours pas produire une version avec l'installeur legacy
[21:20] <melodie_> contrairement à Lubuntu qui continue de le fournir
[21:21] <melodie_> elacheche_anis can you give me the link to your twitter page?
[21:22] <elacheche_anis> melodie_: for that you should build your ISO based on an Alternate ISO not a live one
[21:22] <melodie_> I think I found it
[21:22] <melodie_> elacheche I don't know any alternate basis built on the same method as Ubuntu Mini Remix
[21:23] <elacheche_anis> https://twitter.com/elacheche I use this nickname everywhere d4rk-5c0rp starts hating me for that :D
[21:23] <elacheche_anis> Ah! I see
[21:24] <melodie_> my "meylodie" nick is now following you on twitter
[21:25] <elacheche_anis> Great :D
[21:25] <melodie_> I'll also start seriously tweeting from within my real name account
[21:25] <melodie_> a bunch of people have started following me there! the professional world loves twitter!
[21:26] <melodie_> nizarus si tu veux des infos sur Bento Openbox dans les temps à venir n'hésite pas à passer sur le forum linuxvillage.org
[21:26] <melodie_> j'y fais un tour chaque jour, au moins pour voir si des gens ont besoin de quelque chose
[21:26] <elacheche_anis> melodie_: yes professionals loves twitter, FOSS lovers loves twitter & diaspora :D
[21:27] <melodie_> I had a look at diaspora, but I have enough to do with the several accounts and the rest...
[21:27] <melodie_> really! have a look at the todo I wrote! XD
[21:28] <melodie_> not to mention real life and happenings to attend to :D
[21:28] <elacheche_anis> :D
[21:28] <elacheche_anis> I know that feeling
[21:28] <melodie_> I have to leave and wish you all a good evening, the day has been long.
[21:29] <melodie_> it feels exciting and a bit overwhelming sometimes. :)
[21:29] <melodie_> see you!
[21:33] <elacheche_anis> see you melodie_ :)
[21:34] <melodie_> elacheche_anis see you!
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[10:03] <vubuntor305> cho em hoi sau khi cài ubuntu bị báo thiếu bộ nhớ thì có cách nào chia thêm bộ nhớ không
[10:03] <vubuntor305> ?
[10:04] <MrTuxHdb> bộ nhớ = cái phân vùng cài ?
[10:05] <vubuntor305> em ko rõ em chỉ chia ra 1 ổ 7.63G và ổ còn lại 4.52g
[10:05] <vubuntor305> vào thí báo thiếu bộ nhớ e mới cài nên ko biết thế nào
[10:06] <vubuntor305> lại phải vào lại win nên ko biết phân vùng nào thiếu
[10:09] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor305: thì boot vào liveCD
[10:09] <MrTuxHdb> sau đó resize cái phân vùng kia thôi
[10:09] <MrTuxHdb> :D
[10:12] <vubuntor024> em bị lỗi sau khi cài 7zip xong ko giai nen dc file rar
[10:12] <vubuntor024> giup em với
[10:20] <vubuntor650> em bị báo lỗi hết bộ nhớ computer có cách nào chia thêm bộ nhớ không ?
[10:20] <vubuntor650> em cài song song win7 và ubuntu 1404
[10:36] <vubuntor521> có cách nào chia lại ổ cứng trên ubuntu mà không cần cài lại ubuntu không ad ?
[10:37] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor521: nãy bảo rồi
[10:37] <MrTuxHdb> không đọc à
[10:38] <MrTuxHdb> 17:09 < MrTuxHdb> vubuntor305: thì boot vào liveCD
[10:38] <MrTuxHdb> 17:10 < MrTuxHdb> sau đó resize cái phân vùng kia thôi
[10:38] <vubuntor521> em không nhìn được vừa phải vào lại
[10:41] <vubuntor521> có phần mềm của bên thứ 3 không ad ?
[10:42] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor521: tại sao phải dùng phần mềm của bên thứ 3?
[10:42] <MrTuxHdb> GParted có sẵn trong liveCD rồi mà
[10:42] <vubuntor521> mình cài ubuntu bằng usb
[10:43] <vubuntor314> em the vao mang duoc
[10:44] <vubuntor521> mình có cài gparted từ app xuống nhưng khong reside dc
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"vubuntor024",
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"vubuntor521",
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[14:05] <roaksoax_> n/win 9
[14:51] * jose sets mode +b on roaksoax_!*@*
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[13:21] <DammitJim> I just want to help at the booth so I can get an Ubuntu tshirt LOL
[13:22] <DammitJim> dammit... what was the name of the guy with the shirts...
[18:48] <jck77> ahoneybun: hey I wont be able to go to Orlando :( I have work that weekend .... sucks
[19:22] <ahoneybun> noes!
[19:33] <jck77> the past 3 month I have been really busy
[19:34] <jck77> cant complaint hehe
[22:00] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: ping
[22:01] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: do you have a blog post from the releae party I can attach to the community donations funding report?
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-fl"
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2015-11-11-#juju-dev
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[00:42] <mup> Bug #1515066 opened: failed to create C:/Juju/bin/juju-run.exe symlink <blocker> <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515066>
[00:44] <cherylj> davecheney: I see bug 1465317 is assigned to you and InProgress. Are you actually working that bug?
[00:44] <mup> Bug #1465317: Wily osx win: panic: osVersion reported an error: Could not determine series <osx> <packaging> <wily> <windows> <juju-core:In Progress by dave-cheney> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <juju-core 1.25:Triaged> <juju-release-tools:Fix Released by sinzui> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465317>
[01:49] <davecheney> cherylj: nope
[01:49] <davecheney> didn't even know about it
[01:49] <davecheney> sorry
[01:50] <davecheney> how long has it been assigned to me ?
[01:53] <cherylj> davecheney: thumper assigned it to you back on 22-9
[01:54] <mup> Bug #1496016 changed: jujud uses too much memory <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496016>
[01:54] <mup> Bug #1510533 changed: destroy-environment panics <destroy-environment> <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510533>
[02:05] <thumper> hmm
[02:05] <thumper> I seem to recall that it was part of the series / os work
[02:05] <thumper> at least I had assumed that
[02:31] <menn0> thumper: simple juju/utils addition https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/173
[02:32] <menn0> needed as part of fix to the machine agent symlink on windows issue
[02:32] * thumper looks
[02:32] <menn0> (tested on Windows)
[02:33] <thumper> not sure why it isn't hooked up on review board
[02:33] <thumper> but +1
[02:35] <menn0> thumper: yeah, that's weird
[02:35] <menn0> but thanks
[03:07] <menn0> davecheney: what's the reasoning behind the network operation func move? I have no real problem with it, but I can understand that it might be the kinda of thing that's more widely used which is why it was put in utils
[03:07] <menn0> also, it should probably be based on thumpers juju/retry now (but that's beyond the scope of your change)
[03:13] <davecheney> menn0: i'm nuking the utils packge in juju
[03:13] <davecheney> there is no point in having both a utils repo and a utils package
[03:13] <menn0> right
[03:13] <davecheney> it's clear juju/utils is a dumping ground for things that people thought would be generally useful
[03:13] <davecheney> but in all cases have proven to be used in only one place
[03:14] <davecheney> possibly because they were hard to find ?
[03:14] <menn0> davecheney: I actually missed that this was being moved from the utils package in juju
[03:14] <menn0> all good
[03:14] <davecheney> not to mentino the dumping ground that is github.com/juju/utils
[03:14] <menn0> davecheney: ship it
[03:15] <davecheney> how's the build blockage going ?
[03:23] <menn0> davecheney: about to push the final PR. just doing final tests on Windows
[03:24] <davecheney> thank you
[03:31] <natefinch> is there a fix for bad record mac or do I just retry
[03:31] <natefinch> ?
[03:31] <natefinch> (re the landing bot)
[03:33] <menn0> natefinch: retry. it's a mongodb bug that's fixed in a later version than we use.
[03:35] <natefinch> menn0: boo
[03:36] <davecheney> natefinch: nah, just turn it off and on again
[03:57] <axw_> wallyworld: going to have some lunch, can we have a chat after to talk about what's next?
[03:57] <wallyworld> sure
[04:10] <natefinch> menn0: I was looking at that x509 cert signed by unknown authority bug... sounds like we're having problems reproducing it, but you suggested flipping mongo to secondary "at just the right time" to try to reproduce the problem. What would be the right time?
[04:11] <natefinch> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1491688)
[04:11] <mup> Bug #1491688: all-machine logging stopped, x509: certificate signed by unknown authority <bug-squad> <landscape> <logging> <rsyslog> <sts> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.25:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491688>
[04:31] <menn0> natefinch: well we see the problem happening just after the machine agent starts up
[04:32] <menn0> natefinch: around the time the "api" worker starts would be a good place I suspect
[04:33] * thumper is done
[04:33] <thumper> done done
[04:34] <natefinch> menn0: ok, thanks
[05:12] <axw_> wallyworld: got time now? 1:1 hangout?
[05:14] <wallyworld> axw_: sure, giv eme 5
[05:14] <axw_> wallyworld: ok, poke when you're there
[05:22] <wallyworld> axw_: there now
[05:31] <axw_> wallyworld: one of us dropped
[09:15] <voidspace> dooferlad: wily hasn't [completely] fixed the vanishing windows problem
[09:15] <voidspace> dooferlad: just had it now
[09:42] <frobware> dimitern, have 10 mins for a quick HO?
[09:46] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: ping
[09:47] <dimitern> frobware, can it wait until standup?
[09:48] <frobware> dimitern, let's do it then or later
[09:48] <dimitern> frobware, ok
[09:53] <voidspace> dimitern: ping
[09:55] <dimitern> voidspace, pong
[09:55] <voidspace> dimitern: question about provider/maas/environ.go:providerSuite.makeEnviron
[09:55] <voidspace> dimitern: it looks to me like the call to coretesting.FakeConfig().Merge ought to use testAttrs not maasEnvAttrs
[09:56] <voidspace> dimitern: so I'm going to change it in my branch, just checking with you that's correct
[09:56] <dimitern> voidspace, let me have a look
[09:57] <voidspace> dimitern: all tests pass before and after the change
[09:57] <voidspace> dimitern: it implies that testAttrs is not really needed at all, maybe it's better to get rid of it
[09:58] <dimitern> voidspace, is testAttrs there just to set maas-server URL?
[09:58] <voidspace> dimitern: it looks like it to me
[09:59] <voidspace> dimitern: but it must not be needed as it isn't used!
[10:00] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah it looks like it - maybe the gomaasapi test server changed so it doesn't need it?
[10:00] <voidspace> dimitern: it looks to me like it has never been used...
[10:00] <dimitern> voidspace, all the better then - drop it :)
[10:01] <dimitern> voidspace, dooferlad, frobware, jam, fwereade, standup?
[10:01] <voidspace> omw
[10:01] <dooferlad> dimitern: was already there
[10:01] <fwereade> dimitern, I think I'm there too ;p
[10:02] <dooferlad> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/juju-sapphire
[10:02] <dimitern> hmm
[10:21] <voidspace> dimitern: dooferlad: frobware: if you have time, super simple, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3116/
[10:22] <dimitern> voidspace, sure, will look in a bit
[10:36] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: hey
[10:40] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: just wondering if there's a feature branch around that's using charmrepo.v2-unstable
[10:40] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: yup, series-in-metadata
[10:42] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: thanks
[10:42] <wallyworld> np
[10:53] <frobware> voidspace, I built and ran tests for your change but some fail.
[10:53] <frobware> voidspace, they may not be related of course, just thought I'd try to see what happens.
[10:54] <frobware> voidspace, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13226255/
[11:01] <dimitern> voidspace, reviewed
[11:03] <voidspace> dimitern: it used to return false, why should it *now* return NotSupported
[11:04] <voidspace> dimitern: the error channel there is for things like an error contacting the maas server
[11:04] <voidspace> dimitern: otherwise there's no point in using a boolean
[11:04] <dimitern> voidspace, because that one slipped by me when frank added it I guess
[11:04] <voidspace> frobware: I'll look into it
[11:05] <voidspace> dimitern: "do you support x?" "error"
[11:05] <voidspace> dimitern: it seems to me that "no" is a much more logical response...
[11:05] <dimitern> voidspace, it can be "no", "yes", or "I failed to verify"
[11:05] <dimitern> voidspace, for the last case we need the error
[11:06] <voidspace> dimitern: no, you're suggesting I return "error" for the no case
[11:06] <dimitern> voidspace, but IIRC some of the places this gets called expects (and ignores) NotSupported error from that method
[11:06] <voidspace> dimitern: I do return an error for the "failed to verify" case
[11:06] <voidspace> dimitern: expects and ignores? I don't understand what that could mean.
[11:07] <voidspace> dimitern: and if so I'd rather fix those *callers* and have them properly check the bool result
[11:07] <frobware> voidspace, I believe the test failure are introduced by your change
[11:07] <voidspace> frobware: seems odd, but I'll look into it
[11:09] <dimitern> voidspace, ok, but if SupportsSpaces will return false, nil, please look into all places it gets called (incl. featuretests/ and the all the stubs around cmd/juju, api/ and apiserver/)
[11:11] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll check other similar provider methods
[11:11] <voidspace> dimitern: better to be consistent even if it's weird...
[11:11] <voidspace> dimitern: but it seems more obvious to me that a Supports* method returns true or false and only returns an error when there's an error...
[11:12] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, seems reasonable to use the error return only when needed
[11:13] <dimitern> (that's the difference between "lets do a high-level spec" and "let's see how things should sensibly work together, based on that spec")
[11:13] <dimitern> voidspace, updated my review
[11:15] <voidspace> dimitern: cool, thanks
[11:27] <voidspace> hmmm... that state test consistently fails on the buildbot for my 1.25 branch
[11:27] <voidspace> testing with 1.25 merged into my branch
[11:27] <voidspace> Error: machine document does not have a "principals" field
[11:31] <voidspace> Doesn't fail on my machine.
[12:07] <voidspace> Weird, I really don't see how that error can arise.
[12:08] <voidspace> Principles is part of the machine document and the error indicates that it's missing.
[12:08] <voidspace> mgz_: ping
[12:09] <voidspace> mgz_: I don't suppose this error is familiar?
[12:09] <voidspace> mgz_: http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/github-merge-juju/5383/console
[12:09] <voidspace> mgz_: it doesn't happen on my machine and it's hard to see how it could be spurious
[12:09] <voidspace> but it's happened twice in a row
[12:33] <jam> rick_h__: ping
[12:33] <jam> frobware: sorry I missed the standup today. my meeting with Mark got expanded and went through the time. Anything I should be aware of?
[12:34] <frobware> jam: trying to land first commit on maas-spaces feature branch. :)
[12:35] <rick_h__> jam: pong
[12:35] <frobware> jam: I tried the kmaas.py script but could not get a node to register - will come back and look at why
[12:36] <jam> frobware: k. if you want some live feedback with me, just ping
[12:36] <jam> though I'm off in a few
[12:36] <jam> (30-60min)
[12:36] <jam> rick_h__:
[12:36] <jam> rick_h__: mark and I went over the Funding and Budgets stuff, and got pretty far.
[12:36] <jam> but we have a few things dangling. thought I might ping ideas off of you, if you're interested.
[12:37] <rick_h__> jam: sure thing, I talked to casey about it on monday and hadn't seen if he'd updated it yet
[12:37] * rick_h__ loads it up
[12:37] <frobware> jam: OK, let me actually debug it a bit more; I tried, it "failed", I got sidetracked.
[12:37] <jam> frobware: :)
[12:38] <jam> rick_h__: I'm happy to hangout as a higher bandwidth mechanism for discussion
[12:38] <rick_h__> jam: sure thing
[12:38] <rick_h__> jam: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/rick?authuser=1
[13:15] <tvansteenburgh> can anyone tell me how to resolve this bootstrap error? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13226910/
[14:50] <mup> Bug #1514444 changed: Windows github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud/dumplogs/dumplogs.go:65: undefined <blocker> <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by cmars> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514444>
[14:50] <mup> Bug #1515066 changed: failed to create C:/Juju/bin/juju-run.exe symlink <blocker> <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Fix Released by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515066>
[14:50] <mup> Bug #1515289 opened: bootstrap node does not use the proxy to fetch tools from streams.c.c <kanban-cross-team> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515289>
[14:51] <voidspace> frobware: I do have a failure, related to the removal of testAttrs I think
[14:51] <voidspace> fixing
[15:13] <voidspace> dimitern: hah, testAttrs *was* used
[15:14] <voidspace> dimitern: but only because creating a new reference to a map *doesn't* copy it
[15:14] <voidspace> dimitern: so modifying testAttrs mutates maasEnvAttrs
[15:14] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll change it to a proper copy
[15:15] <voidspace> dimitern: http://play.golang.org/p/O6H0HoQfzh
[16:01] <voidspace> dimitern: we can't stop using the legacy Subnets code as the new api doesn't have allocatableHigh and allocatableLow
[16:02] <voidspace> dimitern: or at least the new code also needs to fetch nodegroup interfaces in the same way as the current code
[16:02] <dimitern> voidspace, sorry, in a call, will get back to you soon
[16:03] <voidspace> dimitern: np, more FYI than requiring a response
[16:21] <dimitern> voidspace, good catch on testAttrs :)
[16:21] <dimitern> voidspace, about Subnets()
[16:21] <dimitern> voidspace, that only applies to the address allocation logic, right?
[16:21] <dimitern> voidspace, we don't need the allocatable high and low otherwise
[16:24] <dimitern> voidspace, I'd suggest keeping the legacy subnets implementation internally for now (unexported) and use it when the network-deployment-ubuntu is missing, otherwise use the new API and just don't populate the static ranges (until we need them)
[16:44] <voidspace> dimitern: well we need them for address allocation
[16:44] <voidspace> dimitern: which is currently the major use for Subnets
[16:44] <voidspace> and I don't want to move that code into address allocation
[16:46] <voidspace> mgz_: sinzui: test infrastructure (CI bots) seems to be in trouble
[16:50] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, but for the demo we won't need address allocation, will we?
[16:52] <voidspace> dimitern: we won't need containers?
[16:52] <dimitern> voidspace, we won't need the address allocation feature flag
[16:52] <voidspace> dimitern: but if we break address allocation we can't merge back to master
[16:52] <voidspace> dimitern: and we'll have failing tests
[16:53] <voidspace> and we need tests to pass just to be able to develop
[16:53] <dimitern> voidspace, I'm thinking of dropping the current address allocation approach entirely
[16:53] <voidspace> it's easy enough to share that code between the two implementations of subnets (new api and legacy)
[16:53] <voidspace> (the code that figures out addressable range)
[16:53] <voidspace> so I don't see why not do it
[16:53] <voidspace> the new one just won't be as clean as we hoped
[16:54] <dimitern> voidspace, I'd rather ask maas to return the allocatable high/low (both static and dhcp) using the subnets api
[16:54] <voidspace> we can do that too
[16:54] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, since it's a new, yet-unreleased api, now's the time to make it saner than the old one
[16:55] <voidspace> I'll file an issue for it
[16:55] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers!
[21:19] <thumper> menn0: a pretty boring review: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3115/diff/#
[21:24] * menn0 looks
[21:31] <menn0> thumper: ship it. just one tiny issue.
[21:32] <thumper> ta
[21:32] <thumper> menn0: my no tail bit isn't working as expected :-(
[21:32] <menn0> thumper: what's happening?
[21:32] <thumper> it isn't not tailing
[21:32] <thumper> ...
[21:32] * thumper adding debugging
[21:33] <thumper> ha
[21:33] <thumper> found a missing bit
[21:34] <menn0> cool
[21:39] <mup> Bug #1515401 opened: destroy-environment leaving jujud on manual machines <blocker> <destroy-environment> <manual-provider> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core series-in-metadata:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515401>
[21:43] <thumper> menn0: working now...
[21:43] <thumper> menn0: I missed the param conversion from the apiserver -> state struct
[21:44] <thumper> added tests :)
[21:47] <thumper> menn0: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3118/
[22:01] * menn0 looks
[22:02] <menn0> thumper: have you checked what happens when you use the client that supports "no tail" with a server that doesn't?
[22:02] <thumper> no
[22:02] <thumper> poo
[22:02] <thumper> um...
[22:03] * thumper thinks
[22:03] <thumper> it'll just ignore it
[22:03] <thumper> as it comes through as a post param
[22:03] <menn0> thumper: it might be a good idea to be sure :)
[22:03] <thumper> but we only check for some...
[22:03] <thumper> yeah
[22:03] <menn0> I'm sure you're right but....
[22:03] <thumper> worth confirming
[22:03] <thumper> for sure
[22:10] <menn0> thumper: so "NoTail" was added to api.DebugLogParams in an earlier PR? I don't see it here.
[22:10] <thumper> surprise
[22:11] <thumper> I needed to make some tests pass when removing the feature flag
[22:11] <menn0> thumper: that's fine :) just making sure the diff was complete and/or I wasn't missing something
[22:12] <menn0> thumper: ship it with one request
[22:48] * perrito666 thinks that this day is lastimg more than it should
[22:49] <anastasiamac> perrito666: ?
[22:50] <perrito666> anastasiamac: still a lot of things before I EOD
[22:51] <anastasiamac> perrito666: ah... i usually get the feeling that days are not long enough \o/
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"rick_h__",
"rogpeppe",
"thumper",
"tvansteenburgh",
"voidspace",
"wallyworld"
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2015-11-11-#edubuntu
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[15:42] <lars2> Hi,
[15:42] <lars2> I'm looking for the roadmap for Edubuntu 16.04 LTS. Where can I find it?
[15:42] <lars2> Any thought of switching DE for Sugarlabs "One laptop per Child" DE?
[15:42] <lars2> Thanks.
[20:53] <highvoltage> no roadmap as present
[21:22] <powersaw> Zzzzz
[21:22] <powersaw> Dead
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-touch
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[01:22] <wavis> htc is apparently giving 20% off the nexus 9 today http://www.htc.com/us/tablets/nexus-9/
[01:23] <wavis> I would get one, but I'm not sure if I could get Ubuntu on it. You folks confident it would be less than 8 hours work for a typical linux user?
[01:24] <mcphail> wavis: pretty confident you are at least an order of magnitude out on that one
[01:25] <mcphail> !devices
[01:25] <wavis> mcphail: in which direction?
[01:26] <mcphail> wavis: that bad direction :/
[01:26] <mcphail> wavis: you'd have to create the full port yourself
[01:56] <Hario> anyone knows how to get wakelocks?
[01:56] <Hario> using /sys/power/wake_lock doesn't work
[01:57] <Hario> i get a permission denied error
[05:11] <alexforsale> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13224716/
[05:11] <alexforsale> unity-system-co: page allocation failure: order:0, mode:0xd0
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/bq-aquaris-e5-hd-official-launches-in-russia-on-november-17-495982.shtml
[06:58] <vishnudev> Hi
[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[10:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Armistice Day! 😃
[12:23] <vishnudev> Hi guys
[12:23] <vishnudev> I've built ubuntu touch for my device
[12:23] <vishnudev> How to make a zip out of it ?
[12:23] <vishnudev> so that i can try the rom in my mobile
[12:23] <morphis> jgdx: pushed some fixes which should also remove those warnings you mentioned
[12:24] <jgdx> morphis, ty, will look in a bit
[12:25] <morphis> jgdx: still have to test it a bit more when the silo is updated
[12:28] <jgdx> morphis, okay
[12:55] <pmcgowan> barry, can you help look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image/+bug/1508081
[13:27] <jgdx> faenil, question, if I set ListItemLayout.title to undefined, is the label created?
[13:28] <jgdx> faenil, s/undefined/an empty string
[13:35] <mardy> tvoss: hi! Do we inject the location we get from other providers (such as HERE) into the GPS?
[13:35] <tvoss> mardy, yup
[13:35] <tvoss> mardy, well, at least into the driver, it is up to the impl to make use of that information
[13:38] <mardy> tvoss: I'm studying the code a bit, and I was a bit lost. I think I found it now: it all starts in Engine::add_provider(), where the provider's on_reference_location_changed() method is connected to the location update signal, right?
[13:39] <tvoss> mardy, yup
[13:40] <mardy> tvoss: and saving the location and almanac across reboots, is it something that we should be doing explicitly, or do GPS chips always store this info internally in some non-volatile memory?
[13:41] <tvoss> mardy, it is up to the chipset/driver to store that information
[13:41] <mardy> tvoss: how convenient :-)
[13:42] <tvoss> mardy, yup, we can request the chipset to forget previous data, but that's it
[13:43] <mardy> tvoss: AFAIR in wikipedia, the almanac data is valid up to 180 days; wouldn't it make sense to fetch it from some online server, instead than slowly get it from the satellites?
[13:43] <tvoss> mardy, we already do
[13:44] <mardy> tvoss: ah; where is this?
[13:44] <tvoss> mardy, the gps chipset driver requests a so-called XTRA download from us
[13:44] <tvoss> mardy, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/location-service/15.04/view/head:/src/location_service/com/ubuntu/location/providers/gps/android_hardware_abstraction_layer.cpp#L143
[13:44] <pmcgowan> tvoss, did silo2 not make the image last night?
[13:44] <tvoss> pmcgowan, it did as far as I know
[13:44] <tvoss> pmcgowan, why?
[13:44] <pmcgowan> cant find your location
[13:44] <mardy> tvoss: cool, I saw that download interface, and that was going to be my next question. :-) Now it's clear, thanks
[13:45] <tvoss> mardy, cool
[13:45] <pmcgowan> tvoss, Here is still busted for me
[13:45] <tvoss> mardy, please note that the xtra data is gps/chipset/vendor/soc specific
[13:45] <tvoss> pmcgowan, hmmm, let me see
[13:45] <pmcgowan> I saw there were problems landing it
[13:45] <tvoss> pmcgowan, let me wipe and try again
[13:45] <pmcgowan> but thought it got into the second image
[13:45] <tvoss> pmcgowan, hmm, no one pinged me
[13:46] <tvoss> pmcgowan, pinging sil
[13:46] <pmcgowan> tvoss, from jibel The silo was misconfigured and it didn't migrate to the archive. This is fixed but won't be on next build.
[13:46] <tvoss> pmcgowan, ah okay
[13:47] <pmcgowan> tvoss, yeah it didnt make it
[13:47] <pmcgowan> nm
[13:47] <pmcgowan> but tis landed now
[13:47] <tvoss> pmcgowan, very good
[13:51] <faenil> jgdx: yes, if you don't want any label, you want to use SlotsLayout
[13:52] <faenil> jgdx: but if you give me more details I can give you a better answer
[13:59] <faenil> jgdx: the labels are created inside their getters, so if you never try to access the title property it won't be created
[14:08] <jgdx> faenil, that answers it, thanks
[14:10] <mardy> tvoss: where is the source code of the Qt module which implements location using the platform api?
[14:10] <tvoss> mardy, lp:qtubuntu-sensors
[14:10] <mardy> tvoss: thanks
[14:12] <faenil> jgdx: I'm still curious...
[14:13] <jgdx> faenil, most of the ListItemLayout usage in USS uses the title label, but a few uses the subtitle and summary.
[14:14] <jgdx> faenil, and I want to create a component that can be used in all cases (title/title+subtitle/title+summary), but not if there e.g. the subtitle label is created, always.
[14:15] <jgdx> s/there/the
[14:21] <faenil> jgdx: why not just set title or subtitle accordingly?
[14:22] <jgdx> faenil, I could, but we have dividers (a line beneath the ListItemLayout). And I like a reusable component that provides that, but not necessarily ListItem.
[14:23] <jgdx> suggestions?
[14:25] <faenil> jgdx: what about dividers?
[14:26] <faenil> are you using a custom divider to avoid using ListItem? :P
[14:28] <jgdx> faenil, essentially, I just need a ListItemLayout and a divider, so shouldn't I, for speed, not use ListItem? :p
[14:29] <faenil> jgdx: yeah, as long as the disadvantages don't outweigh the advantages...plus we don't have a ListItemDivider component which can be used from QML, so you're going to have to update the divider when its colour is finalize
[14:29] <faenil> (and I'm not sure it is finalized)
[14:30] <jgdx> what about U.C.ListItems.ThinDivider?
[14:30] <faenil> jgdx: that's from the old module
[14:30] <jgdx> 1.3?
[14:31] <faenil> it's ListItems, the old module
[14:31] <faenil> ListItem is using an internal divider item
[14:31] <faenil> zsombi: is ListItem's divider type exposed to QML?
[14:32] <faenil> if not, is there any plan to do that?
[14:32] <jgdx> faenil, it is ListItem.divider
[14:32] <faenil> jgdx: that's the instance
[14:32] <zsombi> faenil: there is one ThinDivider in teh U.C.ListItems
[14:32] <faenil> zsombi: yeah, from the old module
[14:33] <faenil> zsombi: is there any decision about that? should we encourage people to use ThinDivider if they just need ListItemLayout + a divider?
[14:33] <zsombi> faenil: we have to move that under U.C so it is marked as kept
[14:33] <faenil> zsombi: yep
[14:33] <labsin> Hi, I did a bugreport/feature request on qtubuntu for touch. I've addached a branch and proposed it for merging. Is there more I should do?
[14:34] <jgdx> faenil, okay, I'll use the listitem for the divider for the time being, is that what you're saying?
[14:34] <faenil> zsombi: at that point though ListItem should start using that instead of the internal one, for consistency
[14:34] <zsombi> faenil: ehm... ListItem si a cpp component ThinDivider is QML...
[14:35] <faenil> jgdx: I don't know, I'm trying to understand the situation about dividers myself, remember I'm crossteams, I'm not sdk :D
[14:35] <zsombi> faenil: do you volunteer to make ThinDivider as cpp?
[14:35] <faenil> zsombi: no, but you already have ListItemDivider...
[14:35] <faenil> zsombi: either you expose that, or you move ListItem to ThinDivider, that's what I mean
[14:36] <zsombi> faenil: ListItemDivider
[14:36] <zsombi> ...
[14:36] <faenil> zsombi: yes?
[14:41] <faenil> jgdx: so, since it seems there's no plan about that, I don't know what to tell you, sorry
[14:42] <faenil> jgdx: I'll write a quick benchmark and see if it's worth saving time by not using ListItem
[14:45] <jgdx> faenil, don't worry, thanks looking into it
[14:51] <faenil> jgdx: I have some news for you :D (cc zsombi)
[14:51] <jgdx> \o/
[14:52] <faenil> zsombi: jgdx http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13227631/
[14:53] <jgdx> faenil, well that's great! Thanks
[14:53] <faenil> jgdx: np :)
[14:53] <jgdx> :)
[14:54] <faenil> zsombi: have a look :)
[14:54] <faenil> jgdx: the difference is probably because ThinDivider uses 4 GradientStops
[14:54] <zsombi> faenil: what should I look at?
[14:55] <faenil> zsombi: the pastebin,
[14:55] <zsombi> faenil: ListItem also uses that method
[14:55] <faenil> zsombi: it has 2 gradient stops, not 4, or am I wrong?
[14:56] <faenil> zsombi: ah no, it has 4 gradientstops as well
[14:57] <faenil> zsombi: then I wonder why so much difference :D
[14:58] <zsombi> faenil: I don't...
[14:58] <faenil> zsombi: ? XD
[15:00] <faenil> stop giving cryptic answers :D
[15:08] <faenil> zsombi: I thought you'd be happy after looking at the benchmark. Screw you :D
[15:09] <zsombi> faenil: happy? I am... especially that the ThinDivider is slower :D
[15:09] <faenil> zsombi: good, now I hear you :P
[15:09] <zsombi> LOL
[15:09] <zsombi> faenil: I'm ina meeting, so I'm shorter in answering than usually
[15:09] <faenil> zsombi: I see...enjoy :P
[15:10] <zsombi> faenil: *(^(^&$%*&(*)(*
[15:10] <faenil> hahaha
[17:40] <mac__> Hello there. I have few questions about porting ubuntu touch to an android device. Am I at the right irc channel?
[17:41] <k1l_> mac__: yes
[17:42] <k1l_> mac__: there is a porting guide. and porting is not an easy task. you need advanced knowhow to do that.
[17:43] <mac__> Currently I have manage to port android 4.4 and android 5.1 to my device. My device is an old device and has few mtd partitions which is small so cannot be used.
[17:45] <mac__> we use the sdcard instead by have two partition sd-ext and sd-ext2 assigned as system and data in rom. however in recovery we do not mount system and data on sd-ext partition. Instead our installer zip takes care of mounting system and data.
[17:45] <mac__> I have compile ubuntu touch but am stuck with installation.
[17:46] <mac__> since in recovery we do not have system and data partition, but have sd-ext and sd-ext2 instead, so the installation fails
[17:48] <mac__> My question. where does ubuntu get install if we install as per ubuntu wiki's website. I beleieve it is data partition. Am I correct?
[17:56] <k1l_> mac__: most devs are europe based and might have already went home. if no one is answering here you might want to mail to the mailinglist, where people can read it when they get online again.
[19:02] <Mohamed> Hi
[19:02] <Mohamed> Anyone There
[19:02] <Mohamed> Respond Please
[19:02] <Mohamed> Need To Ask Some varity of doubt about new port
[19:03] <Mohamed> What??
[19:03] <Mohamed> no One????
[19:04] <k1l_> just ask
[19:04] <pmcgowan> Mohamed, you can try to just ask, but couple of holidays today and europe almost done
[19:05] * genii ponders what "varity of doubt about new port" translates to
[19:05] <Mohamed> As i planned to port ubuntu to new device
[19:06] <Mohamed> if i wanna revert back to android means shall i use odin to flash ROM bcoz its Samsung Device
[19:06] <Mohamed> Now Im Downloading Sources
[19:07] <Mohamed> @<pmcgowan>
[19:07] <Mohamed> What Happen Mates???
[19:07] <pmcgowan> I dont think anyone is here who knows right now
[19:08] <pmcgowan> you can also try the mailing list which always works
[19:08] <Mohamed> Which Mailing List Will You Specify..
[19:10] <pmcgowan> one sec
[19:11] <pmcgowan> Mohamed, at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
[19:11] <Mohamed> hmmm
[19:11] <pmcgowan> the folks with porting experience are on there
[19:12] <Mohamed> ok Thank You I Will Try To Contact
[21:44] <ramsesHD> Hi all. Is there an English page for the Meizu MX4 Ubuntu? I can't read Chinese.
[21:45] <pmcgowan> ramsesHD, its not for sale any longer if thats your interest
[21:45] <ramsesHD> pmcgowan: yes, that was my interest. :-(
[21:46] <mcphail> ramsesHD: http://www.meizu.com/en/ubuntu/features.html
[21:46] <pmcgowan> ramsesHD, unless you can find a used one, the BQ phones are still available
[21:46] <ramsesHD> pmcgowan: too middleclass.
[21:47] <pmcgowan> hah
[21:47] <pmcgowan> yeah I use the mx4 its nice
[21:49] <ramsesHD> pmcgowan: How do updates work if it's out of sale?
[21:50] <pmcgowan> we keep making them available, not sure what you mean
[21:50] <pmcgowan> we will support it for a long time
[21:54] <ramsesHD> pmcgowan: Well, on Android phones, the availability of updates depends on the phone. Older phones don't get updates anymore.
[21:55] <pmcgowan> ramsesHD, we are trying to provide many more frequent updates and consistent across all models
[21:55] <ramsesHD> Ok, thanks.
[21:56] <pmcgowan> so while they are no loner selling we will continue updates for them every 6 weeks as we have
[21:56] <pmcgowan> if you can get one :)
[21:57] * popey spies one on ebay :) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meizu-mx4-gold-4g-16-smartphone-ubuntu-edition-unlocked-boxed-/27203999236
[22:02] <ramsesHD> popey: nice. :-) There is one on the German eBay as well, but it's much more expensive.
[22:10] <xhoch3> hey there, any developers around here? It really annoys me the convergence feature is taking so long, so instead of moaning I thought I could probably help out
[22:10] <davmor2> xhoch3: possibly not most of the world seems to be on holiday
[22:11] <xhoch3> I thought maybe there is someone involved who could just point me to the current development situation, so I don't have to grind all the generic guides about how to help the community
[22:11] <pmcgowan> xhoch3, there is a channel which supports the nexus 4 and nexus 7 for pocket desktop mode
[22:11] <xhoch3> I own a Meizu MX4
[22:11] <pmcgowan> if you have one of those devices you can join in
[22:11] <pmcgowan> hmm
[22:12] <davmor2> xhoch3: there is a video from Ubuntu Online Summit that might help you, let me see if I can find it
[22:12] <pmcgowan> so mx4 has no video out and we do not yet have wireless working
[22:12] <stakewinner00_> why es meizu only available in the european union¿
[22:13] <pmcgowan> that was meizu's decision, it works in other locations just check the radios
[22:13] <davmor2> xhoch3: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22633/developing-unity-8/ that one I think
[22:15] <xhoch3> I'll have a look thx
[23:24] <mortz> I'm porting ubuntu touch to my Lg l70 phone. ubuntu boots up. but keys (power, volume, back ,..) not working at all.
[23:24] <mortz> anyone knows how to fix this?
[23:54] <Hario> so, anyone knows how to aquire wakelocks?
[23:55] <Hario> the usual /sys/power/wake_lock method doesn't work
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-mir
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[13:52] <jeembe> hi
[13:53] <jeembe> i see 2 mouse pointers when running gedit on mir
[13:53] <jeembe> even when i close gedit i still have 2 mouse pointers (one is bigger than the other)
[13:53] <jeembe> i have to restart unity8 to get rid of the second mouse
[13:55] <anpok> I supposed you are running gedit using the gtk backend, arent you?
[13:57] <anpok> hm I guess unity8 currently doesnt override the cursor provided by applications and allows it to be forwarded to unity-system-compositor, which will have a different notion of current cursor position..
[14:01] <jeembe> anpok: yep, and the other problem is that i get a black window with xmir (just landed). i'm using nouveau so i don't have much hope for this beeing fixed any time soon
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:52] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[00:53] <ipeter> 맥 2일차, 3일차 사용중입니다.
[00:53] <ipeter> 불편하네요.
[00:53] <ipeter> 여전히
[00:55] <PotatoGim> 안녀ㅎㅇㅏ세요~
[00:56] <Work^Seony> 아마도 윈도우에 많이 익숙하셨던듯 싶네요
[01:08] <ipeter> 네. 평생을 윈도우쓰고
[01:08] <ipeter> 1년전부터 우분투 쓰기 시작했는걸요.
[01:08] <ipeter> 아직 맥은 많이 어색합니다.
[01:09] <ipeter> 근데 뭐 이제 윈도우가 어색해지겠죠?
[01:09] <ipeter> 맥미니 스스디 달아주니 꽤 쓸만하네요.
[01:09] <ipeter> 스스디 120 흐흐디 1테라 달아줬는데
[01:09] <Work^Seony> 뭐 저도 다를거 없어요. 저도 한국에서 살 때는 맥 구경도 해본 적 없습니다..
[01:09] <ipeter> 생각보다 쓸만해요.빠르구요.
[01:09] <ipeter> 램도 16기가 달아주고요
[01:10] <ipeter> 좀 돈ㅈㄹ좀 했습니다.
[01:10] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[01:10] <ipeter> 뭐 아주 세상을 바꿀것마냥.
[01:11] <ipeter> 애정을 가지고 잘 가꾸워야할듯해요.
[01:11] <ipeter> 파티션부터 시작해서
[01:11] <ipeter> 정리도 좀 하고요.
[01:34] <PotatoGim> http://mauida.com/2015/intel_1208/regist.asp
[02:56] <autowiz_> 포테토님 인텔 컨퍼런스 가시나요? ㅎㅎㅎ
[03:15] <autowiz_> 기왕이면 같은 세션 들을까요? ^^
[03:15] <razGon_Xch2> 저도 맥은 단순 용도로만.
[03:16] <razGon_Xch2> 아이폰과 아이패드와 연계로 씁니다.
[03:16] <razGon_Xch2> razGon_LEo660M
[04:11] <PotatoGim> autowiz_: 저는 양일 모두 1 트랙 골랐습니다! ㅎㅎ
[04:11] <autowiz_> 다행히 컨퍼런스 갈 시간은 생기셨나보네요 ㅎㅎ
[04:11] <PotatoGim> 아 아니구나; 1, 2트랙입니다 ㅎㅎ
[04:12] <PotatoGim> 아닌가; 기억이,.,
[04:12] <autowiz_> 혹시 제가 대신이라도 들었다가 나중에 내용 말씀해달라고 하실 세션 있으시면 다른거 들을까요?
[04:12] <PotatoGim> 헉~ 그렇게까지 하실 필요는...
[04:15] <autowiz_> 송년회가 언제가 될지 아직 모르겠습니다만. 이번달 송년회 아니면 저 컨퍼런스때 뵙겠군요 허허허
[04:21] <autowiz_> 1,1 로 들을려다가 1,2로 신청했습니다. 병렬화 프로그래밍이 어떤건지 한번 들어볼려구요
[04:21] <autowiz_> 포테토님 점심은 드셨나요?
[04:23] <PotatoGim> 예 ㅎㅎ 급하게 양지해장국으로 해결하고 왔습니다
[04:23] <PotatoGim> 저도 아마 1, 2로 신청했던 것 같은데... 가물가물하네요;
[04:23] <autowiz_> 저는 굶고 있는데 혼자 드셨군요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:23] <PotatoGim> 한번 전화해서 확인을..
[04:23] <PotatoGim> 윽...
[04:23] <autowiz_> 뭐 다르면 다른데로 ㅋㅋ
[04:23] <PotatoGim> 다이너마이트 중이신가요? ㅋㅋ
[04:24] <autowiz_> 넵... ㅡ.ㅡ;;;; 다이너마이트가 될려고 독하게 마음먹고 몸속에 화약을 채워넣으면서 식단조절하고 있습니다. ㅋㅋ
[04:27] <PotatoGim> 오오
[04:27] <PotatoGim> 뵐 때에는 폭발 직전의...
[04:27] <PotatoGim> 전화해서 확인해보니 당일 현장에서 그냥 듣고 싶은 트랙을 들으면 된다는군요 ㅋㅋ
[04:28] <autowiz_> 살포시 끌어안고 인당수로 풍덩
[04:28] <PotatoGim> 헉...
[04:28] <autowiz_> 한쪽이 사람이 너무 많아서 듣고 싶은거 듣는데 좀 불편했던적도 있었던거 같습니다.
[04:28] <PotatoGim> 음..
[04:28] <PotatoGim> 둘째날에만 바꿔치기해서 들어야겠습니다 ㅋㅋ
[04:29] <PotatoGim> 둘째날에 머신러닝 듣고... 3D 크로스 포인트를 들으러 날라가야겠군요 ㅋㅋ
[04:29] <autowiz_> 둘째날은 다른일정이 또 있으신건가요?
[04:29] <autowiz_> 저런 세미나 정보 모아서 올려주는곳 있을까요?
[04:29] <autowiz_> 가급적 많이 가고 싶은데 ㅎㅎ
[04:31] <PotatoGim> 아뇨 다른 일정은 없습니다 ㅎ 트랙 1에서 마지막 세션만 듣고 싶고 나머지는 트랙 2를 듣고 싶었는데 이게 섞여있다보니..
[04:31] <PotatoGim> 저는 예전에 몇번 다니다보니 등록했던 전자우편 주소로 계속 던져주더라구요.
[04:32] <autowiz_> 아하
[04:33] <autowiz_> splunk 세미나? 발표회 갔을때는 오후 두번째 세션이 너무 늦게 끝나셔서 들어갈때도 한참 늦게 들어가고
[04:33] <PotatoGim> 오.. 처음 들어보는 거네요...
[04:33] <autowiz_> 줄인다고 했는데도 마지막 세션 발표자분 중에 한분이 자기시간 다 체우셔서 발표 끝나고 나갔더니 10~15분정도 다른곳보다 늦었던거 같습니다 (그땐 세션이 3개)
[04:33] <PotatoGim> 제품인가요? 아니면 뭔가 다른..?
[04:34] <autowiz_> 별거 아니지만 사은품이 다 떨어지고 USB 메모리만 달랑 ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:34] <autowiz_> 빅데이터 분석용 플렛폼이랄까요
[04:34] <PotatoGim> 아.. 빅데이터..
[04:34] <autowiz_> 데이터 수집 분석 처리 엔진 같은거고
[04:34] <PotatoGim> 저는 전리품 중 제일 좋은게 볼펜..ㅡㅡ;
[04:35] <autowiz_> 다른 개발사들이 플러그인 방식으로 화면이랑 기능 구현하면
[04:35] <PotatoGim> 오...
[04:35] <autowiz_> 실제 다른 솔루션이나 환경 ( text 로그 정형화 후에는 어떤 환경에서도 적용가능 )
[04:35] <PotatoGim> QilkView? 같은 녀석은 들어는 봤는데...
[04:35] <autowiz_> 에서 자료 추출해다가 통계도 뽑고 , 화면도 실시간으로 보여주는 거더라구요.
[04:36] <PotatoGim> 백엔드에 데이터 수집이랑 프론트엔드에 UI만 개발하면 끝인거네요..
[04:36] <PotatoGim> 저런 류의 프레임워크가 계속 잘 나오면 빅데이터 진입 장벽도 무지 낮아질 듯...
[04:37] <autowiz_> qlikview 라는거랑 흡사한거 같습니다.
[04:38] <autowiz_> 포테토님 책상에 책 놓고 씨시는경우 있으신가요?
[04:38] <PotatoGim> 음.. 저는 예전에 한번 있던 책들을 싸그리 스캔해서...
[04:39] <PotatoGim> 그냥 화면에 PDF를 하나 더 띄우고 봅니다 ㅎㅎ
[04:39] <autowiz_> 이게 어디다 놓아도 영 불편하네요 , 모니터 옆에 공중에 띄워놓고 보면 좋을거같은데 거치대도 없고
[04:39] <PotatoGim> 전자책 기기가 괜찮은게 나오면 지르고 싶은데...
[04:39] <PotatoGim> 책 넘기는게 너무 귀찮더라구요.
[04:40] <PotatoGim> 넘기는 손맛이라는게 있긴 한데...
[04:40] <autowiz_> 요즘 노트북용 서라운드 모니터 가 있던데 뭐 그런겇처럼 전자책 을 모니터 옆에 하나 배치하는것도 괜찮을거 같습니다.
[04:50] <samahui_tp> 오늘은 일찍가서 야구나 봐야겠네요
[04:51] <samahui_tp> 우리나라 북한 위쪽으로 중국에서 난방에 들어가서 수치가 측정조차 안되는 스모그 먼지들이 나타난다는군요
[04:53] <autowiz_> http://www.codeblocks.org/
[04:53] <autowiz_> 이런것도 있군요 시간나면 한번 써봐야겠습니다
[04:53] <autowiz_> 뭐 그냥 그냥 고만고만한 IDE 일 수 도 있겠습니다만
[04:54] <samahui_tp> 크로스플랫폼 개발할때 괜찮다는데 전 그냥 코더로만 씁니다 ㅎㅎ ;
[04:54] <autowiz_> 역시 사마휘님은 모르시는게 없으신거 같습니다 .
[04:55] <samahui_tp> 거의 다 모르는 일 투성이죠
[04:56] <samahui_tp> 어제 밤샘하고 오전에 좀 자려고 했더니 .. 아내왈 병원가야되는데 배아프다 데리러와 ... 이래서 집에가서 아내와 아이 모시고 병원일주하고.. 점심 먹고 왔더니... 회사에 일들이 생기고...
[04:56] <samahui_tp> 결국 오늘도 밤샘!
[04:56] <samahui_tp> 이렇게 밤샘은 계속해서 생성되고 있습니다
[04:56] <autowiz_> 고생이 많으십니다 ㅠㅠ
[04:56] <samahui_tp> 시간날때 잠시 눈붙여야겠어요
[04:56] <samahui_tp> 운전하는데 죽겠더라고요
[04:57] <autowiz_> 저도 그렇지만서두 왜 개발 후기로 갈 수록 밤을 새야하며 , 월급은 순식간에 지나만가는지 의문의 불가사의 입니다.
[04:59] <samahui_tp> 월급은 월급날 들어오셨다가 하루이틀사이에 갖가지 명목으로 사라지는... 그런 존재...
[05:00] <autowiz_> 언젠가는 잔고가 많아져서 월급도 지출도 별로 개의치 않아질 날이 오기를 기원하면서 낮잠좀 자고 오겠습니다. ㅎㅎ
[05:00] <samahui_tp> 쉬세요
[05:01] <samahui_tp> 저도 가능할때 잠깐이라도 엎드려 자야겠네요
[05:02] <ipeter> 와. OS 자체가 쓰면 쓸수록 편하네요.
[05:02] <ipeter> ㅠㅠ
[05:03] <samahui_WS> 개발환경 구축하기 정말 편하고 쉽죠
[05:03] <autowiz_> M 당 한명 추가요~~ ㅎㅎ
[05:03] <samahui_WS> ㅎㅎ;;
[05:03] <ipeter> ㅎㅎ
[05:03] <ipeter> 전 방금 이메일 칭찬을 하려했는데...
[05:04] <ipeter> 몽고db 설치하려구요..!
[05:04] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[05:06] <ipeter> 근데 사마휘님?
[05:06] <ipeter> 개발환경 구축같은건 윈도우도 편하지 않나요?
[05:06] <ipeter> 그냥 더블클릭 해대면 막 깔리는...
[05:06] <ipeter> 조금 다른 개념인가요?
[05:06] <ipeter> 맥에 지금 이클립스 웹스톰 편집기
[05:06] <ipeter> 자바 정도만 설치되어 있는 상태라서요.
[05:10] <samahui_WS> 윈도우는 개발환경 구축할때 하나하나 깔고 설정하고 하다보면 끝도 없던데요. 거기다 잘 꼬이고... 전 차라리 리눅스나 맥이 특히 맥이 편하더라고요
[05:11] <samahui_WS> 잠시만 결제해주고 .. 눈좀 살짝 붙이고 올께요
[05:12] <samahui_WS> 도저히 못참겠어요 ㅜㅜ
[05:12] <ipeter> 네~
[05:12] <ipeter> 쉬다오셔요!
[06:14] <samahui_tp> 역시 꿀잠이란 짧게 10~20분 자는게 제일 기분 좋네요
[06:15] <samahui_tp> 하지만... 난 아직 잠이 모자르다!!! 라고 몸이 외칩니다
[06:23] <autowiz_> 저는 오늘 08:40~08:55 자고
[06:23] <autowiz_> 09:10~12:00 자고 ㅋㅋ
[06:23] <autowiz_> 12:10 ~ 13:10 자고
[06:23] <autowiz_> 마지막이 문제인데 몇시쯤 잠들었는지 모르겠네요 ㅠㅠ 일어나니 15:00 두둥
[06:27] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요
[07:14] <autowiz_> 준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준준 이다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[07:15] <jun__> 네 안녕하세요~
[07:16] <jun__> ipeter: ipeter님 아직도 그 박물관의 미모의알바생이 있을까요???
[07:18] <autowiz_> 서니님 안계시겠죠 ㅠㅠ ㅠㅠ
[07:21] <crixer> 저는 있습니다
[07:21] <crixer> ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[07:21] <jun__> crixer: 올만에 뵈요~~~
[07:21] <jun__> 가끔 롤들어가면 하고 계신거를 보긴 봤는데 ㅎㅎㅎ
[07:21] <crixer> 안녕하세요
[07:21] <autowiz_> 아하 계시군요 , 안녕하세요 ㅎㅎ
[07:21] <crixer> 아 저
[07:21] <crixer> 잔쩌,,,
[07:22] <crixer> 진짜.. 트롤만 한 10판중에 8판만나서
[07:22] <crixer> 세기말에 강등당했음요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[07:22] <crixer> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[07:22] <crixer> 플레2임 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[07:22] <crixer> 와진짜 세기말이라고 막던짐...
[07:22] <autowiz_> 트롤은 약한편 아닌가요?
[07:22] <crixer> 하 그래서 플레테두리받았어요
[07:22] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ 그래도 플레면.....
[07:22] <crixer> 아 원래 다이안데..
[07:22] <jun__> 전 실버충임돠 ㅋㅋㅋ
[07:22] <crixer> 다이아 테두리가 젤예쁜데
[07:22] <crixer> 마첼테두리는 힘드니..
[07:23] <crixer> 시즌6에는 마첼 한번가봐야죵
[07:50] <ipeter> jun__: 어엇
[07:50] <ipeter> 글쎄요.
[07:51] <ipeter> 그 학생 수업끝 후 알바시간 및 요일을 탐색(?) 못해서요.
[07:51] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[07:54] <jun__> 크흠~
[07:54] <jun__> 내일 외근일정을 어떻게든 만들어서 일찍 가보려했는데;;;;
[07:54] <ipeter> 어헛...
[07:54] <ipeter> 내일이라...
[07:54] <jun__> 헛걸음 할 가능성도 있겠네요
[07:54] <ipeter> 일단 수업끝나면 올지도 모르니
[07:55] <ipeter> 일단 3~5시 사이에 오시길 추천드립니다.
[07:55] <ipeter> ㅋㅋ
[07:55] <jun__> 3~5시면... 애매하네요;;
[07:57] <crixer> 거기가어딘가요
[07:57] <crixer> 갑니다..
[07:59] <jun__> 이대앞에 무슨 박물관이 있대요 ㅎㅎㅎ 거기알바생이 그렇게 이쁘다고....쿨럭;;;
[08:01] <crixer> 오호
[08:01] <crixer> 롤 완전 새로운 게임이 되었네요
[08:03] <jun__> 그러게요;;;;
[08:03] <jun__> 이번 패치로.... 원딜충이 엄청나게 양성이 될꺼 같은 기분;;;;
[08:04] <crixer> 제가 또 한 원딜하죠
[08:06] <jun__> ㅎㅎㅎ 잘하시잖아요~ ㅎㅎ
[08:09] <HolyKnight> 어케변했나유
[08:09] <HolyKnight> 서포충임다
[08:10] <jun__> 게임이 중반이후에 몸빵용 케릭터한테 원딜이 많이 당하던 부분을 개선하기 위해서 원딜의 특성자체를 바꾼 케이스인데요;;;
[08:11] <jun__> 6개의 케릭터가 특성이 조금씩 변해서 쭉 나열하기엔 조금 무리가 있네요
[08:11] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[08:11] <HolyKnight> http://outstanding.kr/idecca-indoor-position/
[08:12] <jun__> 시장규모 15조....
[08:13] <crixer> 아
[08:13] <crixer> 저 정말 마나포션 사랑했는데 사라졌어요
[08:15] <crixer> 와 이제 현상금 팀 전체한데주네요
[08:15] <crixer> 작년에는 이렇게 안바꼈던거같은데 많이 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 이거 읽어보는데 머리가 빙글빙글
[08:18] <pchero_work> http://blog.naver.com/kwangjae1029/220535103929
[08:18] <pchero_work> 요거 읽어볼만 하네요.
[08:19] <jun__> 마나포션없어졌어요..?? 클났네
[08:21] <crixer> 특성이 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 왜이렇게변했대
[08:22] <crixer> 한번 들어가셔서 보셔요
[08:22] <crixer> 완전이상해진듯
[08:22] <crixer> 이제 21 9 이런식이아니라
[08:22] <crixer> 16 4 10 이런식으로찍을듯요
[08:31] <autowiz_> 좋은 회사군요 , 글올리신분도 뭔가 하실려는 열정이 있으시고.... 둘다 부럽네요
[08:38] <autowiz_> 저도 저랑 같이 일할 수 있을만한 사람 한명만 있으면 좋겠습니다. ㅠㅠ
[08:45] <ipeter> 우분투에서는 컨트롤 + 알트 + t키를 누르면 터미널 실행 단축키인데
[08:47] <autowiz_> 맥은 뭐였더라 command + 음....
[08:47] <autowiz_> 아니면 커스터마이징 할 수 는 있는데
[08:48] <autowiz_> ctrl + alt 도 돼는지는 모르겠네요
[08:49] <ipeter> 맥에서는 터미널 실행 단축키를 못찾겠어요.
[08:49] <ipeter> 구글링해도요.
[08:53] <autowiz_> shift + command + N
[08:53] <autowiz_> http://dashkards.com/terminal
[08:54] <autowiz_> 음... 이게 터미널이 선택되어 있을때만 먹는건가
[08:55] <autowiz_> 그렇다면 데쉬보드인가 거기서 아이콘 하나 잡아서 단축키 지정하는게 되는지 봐야 할듯 합니다만.
[09:00] <ipeter> 네네 감사합니다 오즈님-
[09:02] <samahui_tp> 전 퇴근합니다
[09:02] <samahui_tp> 일찍 가려니 즐겁넹
[09:02] <samahui_tp> 즐겁네요
[09:03] <samahui_tp> 즐거운 저녁 시간들 되세요
[09:18] <ipeter> 헉
[09:18] <ipeter> 인사도 하기전에 가셔버리다니.
[09:19] <ipeter> 으흐흐흐흐흑
[09:19] <autowiz_> 오오 사마휘님 오늘 일찍 가시는구나 ㅎㅎㅎ
[09:19] <ipeter> 오즈님은 저와함께 밤을 새요.
[09:19] <ipeter> 세요.
[09:19] <ipeter> 뭐가 맞죠
[09:19] <ipeter> 므흣~
[09:20] <autowiz_> 밤을 지새우다 , 밤을 새다 , 가 표현이라는군요
[09:29] <ipeter> 그래요.
[09:29] <ipeter> 어쨋든
[09:29] <ipeter> 중요한것은
[09:29] <ipeter> 함께 밤을 새요.
[09:29] <ipeter> 으흐흐
[09:29] <ipeter> 휴..
[09:29] <ipeter> 터미널 프롬프트도 바꿔주고...
[09:29] <ipeter> 흠..
[09:30] <ipeter> 정신없이 세팅중이네요.
[09:37] <ipeter> mysql이랑 mongoDB는 설치하고 가야겠네요.
[09:59] <HeavensBus> 56
[10:01] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요
[10:14] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[10:17] <jason__> ㅎㅎㅎ Heavens Bus 래. ㅋ
[10:31] <autowiz_> 재순님 송년회는 언제쯤이 좋을까요?
[10:43] <jason__> 아~~~무래도 좋아요. 불러만 주삼. 찬조? 좀 하면 ㄲㅕ줄꺼죠?
[10:46] <autowiz_> 으음... 말이 나오다가 다시 시들해져서
[10:46] <autowiz_> 슬슬 사람들을 모아봐야 하는데 ㅎㅎ
[10:47] <jason__> 누가 시들하게? 콱! ㅋㅋㅋ
[10:53] <autowiz_> ㅎㅎㅎ
[10:54] <jason__> 사실 (내 집 김장 준비하는 날인) 11/21일 제외하고는 번개도 환영.
[11:16] <ipeter> 후후
[11:16] <ipeter> 스물스물 끼어봅니다.
[11:16] <ipeter> 허허
[11:18] <cheesekun> \ ' ')/
[11:19] <autowiz_> 피터님은 마눌님 모시고 오시고 ㅎㅎㅎ
[11:26] <ipeter> 제가 마눌님이 어디....
[11:26] <ipeter> 혹시... 손을 말씀하시는건가요.
[11:26] <ipeter> 으헉
[11:26] <ipeter> 19금
[11:26] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[11:26] <ipeter> 죄송합니다.
[11:26] <ipeter> 지금 mac에 mysql 설치중입니다.
[11:26] <ipeter> 에러나네요.
[11:26] <ipeter> ㅎㅎ
[13:51] <DarkCircle> razGon_LEo660M, http://news.donga.com/BestClick/3/all/20151110/74695114/1 ...
[15:05] <jason__> ujuc: 잘 지내죠??
[15:05] <ujuc> 넵 :)
[15:05] <ujuc> 정신없네요..
[15:06] <ujuc> 레일즈하느라.ㅡ.ㅡ..;;;
[15:06] <jason__> ㅎㅎㅎ 그래도 꾸준히 보니 반갑습니다. ^^
[15:41] <ujuc> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[15:41] <ujuc> 딱히 갈곳이 없긴해요 :)
[16:25] <DarkCircle> 새벽반 -ㅅ-)/ 흔들
[17:10] <autowiz_> 새벽반 방긋 ^^ ㅎㅎ
[17:40] <DarkCircle> ~( - -)~ 흐물.
[23:55] <autowiz_> 번쩍
[23:57] <autowiz_> 띠띠띠띠 띠띠띠띠 기상 알람이 울린다.. 그렇게 또 하루가 시작된다 ^^
[23:57] <autowiz_> 오늘은 수능날이다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.025315
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-release
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[17:07] <apw> infinity, it looks like somehting might be off in adt testing, cirtianly affecting all dkms tests, not sure if anything else triggers the "late install" section, but that seems to be only using the -release pocket
[17:12] <infinity> apw: That's intentional, see ubuntu-devel@lists ... But maybe it's a bit broken in some use cases?
[17:12] <apw> infinity, hmmm, but ... the auto-dep8 bits that it is installing dkms for arn't in there
[17:12] * apw goes read
[19:36] <ponycorn> Hey guys, are there any plans to update the gpg iso signing keys? To my knowledge, 1024 bit DSA keys are not considered safe anymore?
[19:57] <cjwatson> ponycorn: we have a 4096-bit key ready for use, I think we may just have neglected to actually switch over to it
[19:57] <cjwatson> we wanted to sign with both keys for a while, I remember
[20:07] <ponycorn> thank you cjwatson, so will you start using it now? :)
[20:09] <cjwatson> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13230941/
[20:09] <cjwatson> it is on its way
[20:10] <cjwatson> everything new will be signed with that now; I'll go back round a bit later and re-sign existing files
[20:12] <cjwatson> need to update a bunch of documentation as well I guess :-/
[20:14] <ponycorn> Cooool, thanks a lot for your effort!
[20:15] <cjwatson> thanks for the reminder, this was rather belated configuration as you can tell from the key comment
[20:17] <ponycorn> does that mean you have the key since 2012?
[20:18] <Ukikie> Like LP 1331914? :D
[20:18] <Ukikie> Hrm, no bot.
[20:24] <ponycorn> well better late than never! I really appreciate the change :)
[22:09] <robru> Anybody around that knows how to trigger a touch image build? The option seems to have disappeared (at least for me) from iso.qa.u.c
[22:30] <cyphermox> robru: still need the rebuild? I can try to kick one off in a minute
[22:31] <robru> cyphermox: I'm not sure if it's ready right now
[22:31] <robru> cyphermox: but we still do need it shortly, yeah
[22:31] <cyphermox> ok. I used to have some access for this, I can try to see if it still works ;)
[22:32] <robru> cyphermox: I think it is ready, yeah. just needed that libphonenumber in the overlay.
[22:33] <robru> cyphermox: go for it
[22:33] <robru> if you can
[22:55] <yofel> could someone please try to refresh the kubuntu packageset? I added a large list of packages to supported to cover the kde sources
[22:56] <yofel> that's for xenial for now
[23:03] <Laney> yofel: DMB manages that, and it's re-run periodically
[23:04] <yofel> oh, that's periodic now? nice
[23:04] <yofel> guess I'll wait then
[23:05] <Laney> that's code for manual :(
[23:05] <Laney> but I'm going to do it soon
[23:35] <cyphermox> robru: ack
[23:37] <robru> cyphermox: oh did you do it?
[23:38] <cyphermox> robru: trying to
[23:38] <robru> cyphermox: thanks
[23:38] <cyphermox> no joy, what should it look like?
[23:39] <cyphermox> I think I may have only had access to touch the ubuntu-rtm images back then
[23:44] <robru> cyphermox: last time I had to build an image, iso.qa had "vivid" listed and you could click through to request ubuntu touch be built, but it's not there now: http://i.imgur.com/tvYrSWc.jpg so I have no idea how to do it
[23:47] <cyphermox> I was able to find an old Ubuntu Touch image from 20151016 under Vivid Daily, but I don't seem to have the requisite access.
[23:48] <cyphermox> stgraber: around? if you can help with spinning a Touch image for robru?
[23:49] <robru> it's for pmcgowan actually
[23:50] <cyphermox> for pmcgowan then, but he's not around here anyway
[23:52] <robru> cyphermox: just trying to make it clear the request is coming from higher up than me ;-)
[23:52] <cyphermox> sure, np :)
[23:53] <cyphermox> I certainly would help if I could, but I think we need someone with higher powers, like infinity or stgraber for this.
[23:54] <robru> cyphermox: yeah, I definitely used to be able to do this but something changed an it's not something I do regularly so I have no idea how long ago it changed
[23:55] <cyphermox> well, I suppose it might be useful sometimes for me to be able to do respins sometimes, so I'll need to see about applying to the release team, I think.
[23:56] <cyphermox> I can't type grammatically correct sentences apparently correct moo moo, right?
[23:56] <robru> cyphermox: sometimes
[23:56] <robru> ;-)
[23:57] <cyphermox> yes.
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-motu
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[05:22] <nemith> I am trying to patch network-manager in wily for a couple of crippling mtu bugs. They are fixed upstream but i would like to repackage. When i try to clone network manager via bzr branch lp:ubuntu/wily/network-manager I get a OUT-OF-DATE branch from 0.9.3
[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[14:17] <robski> hello all
[14:18] <robski> anyone I can ask a question about building the CUPS package ?
[14:26] <Pici> [A
[14:26] <Pici> (er, I have no comment on CUPS, just a keyboard/finger malfunction)
[14:29] <robski> Pici, it's my first time visiting this chat-room, so forgive me for being ignorant about the scope of what's being discussed here
[14:29] <robski> But I would like to get into contact with people that potentially are packaging packages for Ubuntu, such as the CUPS package.
[14:29] <Pici> robski: you might have better luck asking in #ubuntu-packaging, but I fear that it might be as quiet as this channel at this time.
[14:29] <Laney> robski: What are you after in particular?
[14:30] <robski> There seems to be a long-lasting (= since 2014) bug in CUPS, introduced in CUPS somewhere around version 1.7
[14:31] <robski> Ubuntu 14.04 currently bundles CUPS 1.7.2 package
[14:31] <robski> I have been trying to understand the status of this CUPS bug, and it would have been resolved since a while, not sure since which CUPS version.
[14:31] <robski> The comments for Ubuntu are that people are waiting for a new CUPS package to be created for Ubuntu with the latest CUPS version (= 2.1.0)
[14:32] <Laney> robski: Okay, try to talk to tkamppeter in #ubuntu-desktop maybe - he looks after cups
[14:32] <robski> ok, sounds super cool as feedback. Thx, Laney
[19:06] <Rhonda> hmm
[19:06] <Rhonda> "Your privacy will not be violated by voting. The voting service has already destroyed the record of your email address"
[19:07] <Rhonda> Reading that in an unencrypted mail (where launchpad has a key for every person who signed the CoC) with a link to an unencrypted vote system is pretty … brave?
[19:07] <Rhonda> bold, that was the word I was looking for. :)
[19:08] <Rhonda> I can see that it's about the intention of it, and the implementation that is used for the vote system itself. But mailing this all unencrypted through the net and also having people to vote unencrypted doesn't really emphasise on that point.
[19:09] <Rhonda> (and the vote server doesn't offer https, even if one would tweak the URL on the end part)
[19:10] <ogra_> are you scared about manipulation or about redhat spying on the vote ?
[19:11] <Rhonda> It's not so much about scared of, it's just about the statement which is wrong in that respect …
[19:12] <rbasak> I suppose it depends on who you consider to be your adversaries.
[19:12] <rbasak> Certainly it seems unlikely that your vote will be accessible to anyone involved with Ubuntu.
[19:13] <rbasak> Maybe an exception is if you live in an Ubuntu-loving household and someone has compromised your end of your connection.
[19:13] <rbasak> HTTPS would certainly be nice.
[19:13] <rbasak> But I don't know how feasbile that is.
[19:13] <Rhonda> rbasak: It's not "my end of connection". It's every. single. network. point. in. between.
[19:14] <Rhonda> Including all the mailservers used in the transport of the mail.
[19:14] <rbasak> Rhonda: "I suppose it depends on who you consider to be your adversaries."
[19:14] <Rhonda> So is this a "nothing to hide" style discussion? Why claim in the first place then that the privacy won't be violated if no precautions have been made about that, whatsoever?=
[19:15] <Rhonda> I wouldn't have expected such responses about that topic, to be honest.
[19:16] <rbasak> I'm not saying that you don't have a point.
[19:16] <rbasak> So yes, you do have a point, and yes, it would be nice if it were over HTTPS.
[19:16] <rbasak> But Ubuntu doesn't run that service.
[19:16] <rbasak> And in practice, for Ubuntu's needs, it's probably OK right now. We don't have anything better.
[19:17] <Rhonda> https isn't the only thing.
[19:18] <rbasak> Yeah, fair enough. Encrypted email is needed too.
[19:20] <rbasak> Rhonda: looks like they have a suggestion box: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/vote.pl?id=E_ebac27388e6f0a6d
[19:20] <rbasak> Rhonda: maybe add HTTPS and PGP to their wishlist?
[19:20] <Rhonda> https would be about the 19 hops I have from my home to the vote server. Let alone the hops in between that don't unguise themself in a traceroute.
[19:21] <rbasak> I'd like to see this sort of thing be Free Software and easily deployable by eithers.
[19:21] <Rhonda> It's though much more about the way the mail took to reach me, where the connection between the email address and the vote hash is clearly visible to anyone on the route.
[19:21] <rbasak> Oh, it is.
[19:22] <Rhonda> So is this your vote ID? :)
[19:23] <Rhonda> Ah, wait, had to wait for the website to build.
[19:23] <rbasak> I think it's the poll ID. For the suggestion box :)
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2015-11-11-#lubuntu
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[00:31] <Walaryne> Hello?
[00:32] <Walaryne> any one here?
[07:59] <rican-linux> anyone testing xenial on powerpc? I am running it on my iBook G4
[08:00] <ianorlin> rican-linux: not yet but please use the iso tracker
[08:01] <ianorlin> rican-linux: do you have problems?
[08:01] <rican-linux> I already posted my results on the tracker
[08:01] <rican-linux> so far it is running pretty well
[08:02] <ianorlin> thanks
[08:02] <rican-linux> the splash screen on boot has off colors but that was the only thing
[08:06] <rican-linux> the only thing I was hoping would be resolved was mesa 3D acceleration. the release notes for the 11.3 version states the r300 bug was fixed. However it is not.
[08:06] <rican-linux> however this is an upstream issue and not lubuntu related
[08:28] <ianorlin> rican-linux: not sure I can do much about that
[08:29] <rican-linux> ianorlin: I understand I plan on reporting upstream
[08:31] <rican-linux> right now I am just using it seeing what works and what does not
[08:38] <JohnDoe_71Rus> hi. i use lubuntu 14.04. I dont know is it pcmanfm false. i have *.sh script. I open folder with script in pcmanfm, double click to script file, than click "run" button in dialog. Now if i moму the mouse i get "select file mouse mode" with border
[08:38] <JohnDoe_71Rus> *move
[10:21] <lubu> hello everybody!
[10:22] <lubu> Need some help please! anyone?
[10:24] <lubu> I get this when I try to start Firefox from terminal:
[10:24] <lubu> Impossible de créer le répertoire de raccourcis clavier GNOME « /home/lubuntu/.gnome2/accels » : Permission non accordée
[10:25] <lubu> Started happening just after I installed Xampp
[14:21] <user_> Hi, I just thought i might give some feedback on installing wily warewolf usb minimal network boot installer, both grub and lilo refuse to install to mbr of hdd cos it convinced it want to look at sda - which is the usb installer drive.
[14:22] <user_> instead of sdb
[14:22] <user_> should i stick this in a ticket?
[15:26] <Ubik_> do suspend/resume is supposed to work well? seems to bug with my system
[16:36] <Ubik_> hello
[16:45] <Ubik_> hi
[17:10] <Ubik_> hello?
[17:19] <Ubik_> anybody here?
[17:39] <hhernandez> does anyone know if there is a US based company that offers comerical support for Lubuntu?
[17:48] <tachibana> lol yeah right
[17:48] <hhernandez> hey I thought I ask
[17:48] <hhernandez> kinda curious
[17:50] <epictetus> hhernandez: like for business users?
[17:50] <hhernandez> yeah
[17:51] <epictetus> there are a bunch of smaller IT companies that have linux expertise that would do it I'm sure but it's not gonna be cheap and probably not 24/7 coverage
[17:51] <hhernandez> if you had a business that some older machines that wanted to get off XP and wanted to solid OS
[17:51] <epictetus> what kind of business uses lubuntu anyways
[17:51] <epictetus> oh no that's a terrible idea
[17:52] <hhernandez> really you think so?
[17:52] <hhernandez> why would you say that?
[17:52] <epictetus> old shitty machines are more trouble than they're worth to begin with, then you're talking about investing hundreds/thousands of dollars worth of technical expertise into setting up / maintaining PCs that are worth $20
[17:53] <hhernandez> ok I see your point
[17:53] <hhernandez> in that
[17:55] <epictetus> also the sad truth of it is that for most businesses Windows just makes a lot more sense (depending on what they're doing), in terms of (1) cheaply available trained IT force (2) somewhat relatively unified platform compared to the 918234892 different custom linux distros available (3) Line of Business applications in specific industries tend to be Windows based (4) documents looking the same / printers working (easily) etc. There's a reason linux owns
[17:57] <epictetus> unless all they need is a web browser / thin client or something in which case linux might be fine but start introducing printers/scanners/apps/word documents / attachments / websites with special plugins etc
[17:57] <epictetus> and supporting anything other than Windows becomes a nightmare unless the users are like, linux programmers
[18:14] <user_> Windows isshit!
[18:14] <user_> linear architecture - inherently flawed.
[19:14] <eipi10> I'm taking an INtro to C class and was wondering what's a IDE for gcc?
[19:15] <eipi10> or any other c compiler
[19:21] <epictetus> there's a zillion of them but you're better off just using a text editor / commandline for a class like that
[19:21] <epictetus> unless there is one the class recommends
[19:21] <epictetus> (i.e. Eclipse)
[19:21] <ianorlin> I recommend maybe an eidtor with syntax highlighting
[19:21] <epictetus> I like to use a text editor with syntax highlighting, yeah
[19:21] <epictetus> i use vim
[19:23] <eipi10> thanks!
[19:23] <ianorlin> yeah I would not like to do lots of homework assingments for programing in leafpad it does use littel memory and can be fine if you say paste something like a link of phone number you want to save in a phone number
[19:36] <eipi10> you're right. Eclipse looks nice, but it's for 'developers'.
[19:36] <eipi10> Someone taking an intro to c class isn't a developer
[19:38] <ianorlin> yeah I really don't like IDE's in class provide bunch of options you never use in my C++ classes
[19:40] <epictetus> there are some things ides do that are whiz-bang cool -- (like being able to mouseover a function name and have the parameters automatically displayed / right click and look up the manual if it's a standard library function / the source of the function if it's not )
[19:54] <eipi10> well that kinda thing, epictetus, might be nice for someone like me who doesn't know anything.
[19:56] <epictetus> but when I took a C class in college, the people who used IDEs / non-unix envs for developing never got As -- they ended up spending a ton of time trying to figure out why the code that worked on their dev environment/IDE didn't build properly / look exactly like what the professor wanted / failed the professor's automated tests when built on the school server you were supposed to use
[19:58] <TheSchaf> i like sublime as a text editor
[19:58] <TheSchaf> or code editor
[20:00] <eipi10> thanks a lot for your advice.
[20:08] <wxl> krytarik: i'm going to try and see if i can't get mario to relinquish the domains.
[20:09] <krytarik> wxl: Hah, wrong channel again. :)
[20:09] <wxl> oh sheesh
[20:10] <eipi10> Higgs didn't use a computer.
[20:41] <Jakey3> Hi I'm using lub 14.04, sometimes i get a double mouse cursor after using firefox. I know this is reported bug. Is there someway to refresh the desktop to get back 1 cursor?
[22:18] <ihuf> Come here, niglets.
[22:42] <genii> ihuf: Racial charged phrases are not welcome in this channel.
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-tr
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[08:56] <ogny> selamlar
[09:30] <Kartagis> selam bebekü
[09:30] <Kartagis> s/ü//
[09:43] <ogny> Kartagis: ustad bugun n11'de biraz indirim bulunabiliyor, 11.11 ya, aklinda olsun
[09:43] <Kartagis> hrm
[09:43] <Kartagis> eyvala
[09:44] <ogny> yalniz site yikilmak uzere
[09:44] <ogny> biraz daha abanirsak down d:
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.081833
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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"Kartagis",
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2015-11-11-#lubuntu-devel
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[08:23] <dkessel> hey guys. i read your thread about having meetings again. sounds good! :)
[08:23] <dkessel> at xubuntu, we have a team calender to keep track of meeting dates/times, so people are automatically reminded when the meeting is.
[10:28] <lubu> hello everybody!
[10:28] <lubu> Need some help please! anyone?
[16:36] <phillw> dkessel: Walter has not quite got that far yet :D
[21:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: do we have a lubuntu package set on LP?
[21:54] <phillw> tsimonq2: both lubuntu packages are available via lubuntu-core or lubuntu-desktop
[21:55] <tsimonq2> phillw: how do I find out what those are from the metapackages?
[21:56] <phillw> tsimonq2: look at the minimal installation wiki page, it lists them. They are used for iso building, so the xenial ones are already created but we do not announce them on that page, as they are test versions and not stable.
[21:58] <tsimonq2> phillw: k thx
[21:59] <phillw> you can also find them listed as part of tasksel as an option to install onto a base ubuntu system. I've not re-written the minimal install page as the way explained there works fine.
[21:59] <tsimonq2> phillw: so this is all the packages(along with base) that are in a default Lubutnu install? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-desktop
[22:00] <tsimonq2> s/Lubutnu/Lubuntu
[22:00] <phillw> yes, for desktop
[22:00] <phillw> we also ship a core meta-package
[22:01] <Unit193> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/xenial/lubuntu
[22:01] <Unit193> Packageset.
[22:01] <tsimonq2> ooh thanks
[22:02] <phillw> tsimonq2: do not poke the bot too often, he has a short fuse :D
[22:03] <tsimonq2> :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu+1
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[09:49] <lordievader> Good morning.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:57] <vitimiti> Hey, I've seen gedit isn't making proper use of the global menu, it works like in gnome shell instead of like in Unity. How can I notify this?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.086071
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"BluesKaj",
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2015-11-11-#maas
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[04:21] <mup> Bug #1472260 changed: MAAS picks wrong cluster-controller for curtin install <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472260>
[04:21] <mup> Bug #1474792 changed: maas installation bughit <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474792>
[04:24] <mup> Bug #1472260 opened: MAAS picks wrong cluster-controller for curtin install <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472260>
[04:24] <mup> Bug #1474792 opened: maas installation bughit <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474792>
[04:27] <mup> Bug #1472260 changed: MAAS picks wrong cluster-controller for curtin install <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472260>
[04:27] <mup> Bug #1474792 changed: maas installation bughit <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474792>
[04:30] <thetrav> I've got a new maas deployment on a system with 2 NICs. eth0 is where I want to connect to the web interface, eth1 is where the managed hosts will be asking for their DHCP. Trick is, the managed hosts won't be able to route to eth0
[04:31] <thetrav> right now i'm having trouble where the hosts aren't able to pull metadata
[04:34] <thetrav> http://askubuntu.com/questions/641454/maas-virtualbox-calling-http-169-254-169-254-2009-04-04-meta-data-instance-id <- basically it's that guy's problem
[04:34] <thetrav> my suspicion is that maas is getting an ARP saying "who has 169.254.169.254" and is replying with the mac of eth0
[04:36] <mup> Bug #1472260 opened: MAAS picks wrong cluster-controller for curtin install <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472260>
[04:36] <mup> Bug #1474792 opened: maas installation bughit <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474792>
[04:38] <thetrav> actually tcpdump shows me that the node has an iscsi device from the maas host anyway, so why is it even using http cloud-init rather than config-drive?
[04:39] <mup> Bug #1472260 changed: MAAS picks wrong cluster-controller for curtin install <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472260>
[04:39] <mup> Bug #1474792 changed: maas installation bughit <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1474792>
[09:16] <mup> Bug #1446525 changed: Curt tries to umount /tmp filesystem while commands are running. <curtin:New> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446525>
[09:25] <mup> Bug #1471731 changed: McDivitt console not available after deployment <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471731>
[09:25] <mup> Bug #1507434 changed: Commissioning multiple VM's with Virsh power type results on vm's never powered on <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507434>
[09:28] <mup> Bug #1471731 opened: McDivitt console not available after deployment <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471731>
[09:28] <mup> Bug #1507434 opened: Commissioning multiple VM's with Virsh power type results on vm's never powered on <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507434>
[09:31] <mup> Bug #1471731 changed: McDivitt console not available after deployment <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471731>
[09:31] <mup> Bug #1507434 changed: Commissioning multiple VM's with Virsh power type results on vm's never powered on <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507434>
[09:34] <mup> Bug #1471731 opened: McDivitt console not available after deployment <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471731>
[09:34] <mup> Bug #1507434 opened: Commissioning multiple VM's with Virsh power type results on vm's never powered on <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507434>
[09:46] <mup> Bug #1471731 changed: McDivitt console not available after deployment <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471731>
[09:46] <mup> Bug #1507434 changed: Commissioning multiple VM's with Virsh power type results on vm's never powered on <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507434>
[09:55] <mup> Bug # changed: 1467341, 1473069, 1481276, 1501135, 1505613
[10:07] <mup> Bug #1501135 changed: maas-import-pxe-files fails when MAAS_URL is quoted <MAAS:Invalid> <maas (Ubuntu):Invalid> <maas (Ubuntu Trusty):Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501135>
[10:10] <liviaandcarla> testing
[11:01] <mup> Bug #1515188 opened: [1.9] VmWare power management doesn't work with vm name <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515188>
[11:01] <mup> Bug #1515191 opened: Welcome screen login button design is secondary instead of primary <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515191>
[11:34] <mup> Bug #1515203 opened: MAAS UI has no report a bug link <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515203>
[14:47] <mup> Bug #1515275 opened: Error creating a bond <MAAS:New for andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515275>
[14:47] <mup> Bug #1515276 opened: Error creating a bond <MAAS:New for andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515276>
[20:09] <mup> Bug #1515380 opened: [1.9rc1] Network bonds management unresponsive in UI <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515380>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.093164
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-fi
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[07:31] <tabasko> onko kellään kokemusta käyttäjien jemmaamisesta suoraan dockereihin?
[07:31] <tabasko> jos käyttäjällä on vaikka sivusto dockerilla ja haluaa päästä siihen kiinni ssh/sftp:llä niin miten tuon voisi vangita sinne suorilta
[08:07] <puhuri> en ole dockerilla kokeillut, mutta ainankin käyttäjien chroottaus on toiminut. Tuollainen kuin firejail näyttäisi olevan, jota voisi kokeilla
[08:07] <puhuri> https://l3net.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/how-to-restrict-a-login-shell-using-linux-namespaces/
[08:27] <tabasko> hmm, pitääpä kokeilla
[08:29] <tabasko> jos laittaisi pystyyn ssh-dockerin jossa olisi volumet webhosting-dockereilta ja firejail jailaisi käyttäjät käyttäjä => webhost-dockerin volume
[08:29] <tabasko> yksinkertaista
[08:30] <tabasko> :D
[09:00] <Mikaela> Kehet: https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200169156-Which-ports-will-CloudFlare-work-with-
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.097453
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-unity
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[11:24] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: what's your opinion about https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/unfavorite_scope_test/+merge/277157 ? It introduces a test that fails with expectFail because Qt is buggy (mardy has a patch to fix it)
[11:25] <tsdgeos> should we land that test now with the expectFail or wait until Qt is fixed?
[11:25] <mzanetti> ah, is that the currentIndex on horizontal listview things
[11:26] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, once Qt is fixed, would the expectFail start failing?
[11:28] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: of course
[11:28] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, in that case, we can commit it now
[11:30] <tsdgeos> ok
[13:47] <mardy> tsdgeos: do you know when 5.6 is going to be released?
[13:47] <mardy> tsdgeos: actually, my question is: are we in a hurry with that fix, should I ping someone in IRC to review it, or do we have time?
[13:47] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: the beta is out "now-ish"
[13:47] <tsdgeos> er
[13:47] <tsdgeos> mardy: ↑↑
[13:48] <tsdgeos> so i guess it'd be good if we can get it in for the beta at least
[13:48] <mardy> tsdgeos: OK, I'll ping someone
[13:49] <tsdgeos> mardy: "We are targeting to put beta out as soon as possible, preferably already during next week. "
[13:49] <tsdgeos> mardy: try fregl, he's one of the project/product managers on the Quick side afair
[14:04] <jeembe> hi all
[14:05] <jeembe> i get 2 mouse pointers when running gedit with gtk mir backend
[14:06] <jeembe> even when if close gedit i'm left with 2 mouse pointers (2 diff sizes and positions)
[15:12] <tsdgeos> dandrader: ping
[15:12] <dandrader> tsdgeos, pong
[15:12] <tsdgeos> dandrader: the xcursor thing we use is not X dependant at all i guess, no?
[15:13] <dandrader> tsdgeos, no, it's not. it does use a library to load xcursors but its source code is in the plugin dir
[15:13] <dandrader> tsdgeos, it's self-contained
[15:14] <tsdgeos> dandrader: so it's not a problem to use a thread on that code (talking to X from a thread is usually crashy), right?
[15:14] <dandrader> tsdgeos, yeah, loading xcursors is just regular file IO stuff, thread at will
[15:14] <tsdgeos> good
[15:14] <dandrader> tsdgeos, have to mind QQuickImageProvider API though
[15:15] <tsdgeos> dandrader: that's what i was wondering, if it made sense to convert that QQuickImageProvider to the async version
[15:15] <dandrader> tsdgeos, cursors are so small
[15:15] <dandrader> tsdgeos, and they're loaded on demand
[15:16] <dandrader> tsdgeos, although animated cursors comprise a good number of separate images
[15:16] <dandrader> tsdgeos, all packaged in a single file though
[15:16] <dandrader> (the animation frameS)
[15:17] <dandrader> tsdgeos, but we have no support for animated cursos yet. although that xcursor lib might still load all frame into memory all the same
[15:17] <dandrader> s/frame/frames
[15:23] <tsdgeos> back
[15:23] <tsdgeos> didn't see anything after "tsdgeos, although animated cursors comprise a good number of separate images"
[15:23] <tsdgeos> dandrader: i said "yeah probably not worth increasing the complexity then until we actually find out it's a bottleneck"
[15:24] <dandrader> tsdgeos, all packaged in a single file though
[15:24] <dandrader> (the animation frameS)
[15:24] <dandrader> tsdgeos, but we have no support for animated cursos yet. although that xcursor lib might still load all frame into memory all the same
[15:24] <dandrader> s/frame/frames
[15:25] <dandrader> tsdgeos, ^^^ that's what you missed
[15:25] <tsdgeos> k
[15:43] <greyback> dandrader: I'd quite happily accept your mouse cursor work, leaving app custom animated cursors for a later MP
[15:43] <greyback> later feature not that high in my priority list
[15:43] <dandrader> greyback, yeah, I was also thinking whether to have it in a separate MP
[16:03] <ltinkl> dandrader, btw, what you mentioned about custom bitmap cursors, doesn't the QPlatformCursor already have a helper class to deal with those?
[16:04] <ltinkl> dandrader, QPlatformCursorImage
[16:08] <dandrader> ltinkl, the sole purpose of this class is to provide Qt's fallback, built-in, cursors
[19:17] <dandrader> greyback, there you go https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/fallbackCursorNames/+merge/277288
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.114840
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2015-11-11-#ubuntustudio
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[00:35] <linux> hi
[00:35] <linux> how are you
[00:36] <linux> I have problems in sound on my linux ubuntu studio
[00:36] <linux> how can I solwe it
[00:37] <linux> I solwe it
[00:38] <linux> now is working
[07:04] <adam_> Good Evening from ModMan Entertainment Studios, Las Vegas
[07:05] <adam_> This is my first use of US
[08:02] <zequence> adam_: Hello ther :)
[15:30] <professor_> Hi eveyybody, I've just installed Ubuntu Studio 15.10 on my Easynote sj51 laptop.
[15:32] <professor_> in fact I've completely removed my Windows 7 as I found everything I need in the Ubuntu OS
[15:32] <professor_> Anybody out there trying the same experience please?
[23:40] <Akern> Hi guys, I read you need contributors, I don't know if I can help you the way you'd like, but I'd like to!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.117597
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[02:46] <kc3dew> .••Leaving••. Reason:(Auto-Away After 30 Mins Of Inactivity) - Pager:(/Ctcp n/a Page <Message>) .«Gx»¤«Realm».
[02:46] <jthan> kc3dew: DON'T LEAVE.
[04:18] <kc3dew> Laughs Out Loud
[04:19] <kc3dew> i wasnt really leaving... i was just idle... being at work doesnt allowe me to keep full attention in channels
[10:24] <rmg51> Morning
[12:24] <JonathanD> Morning.
[13:17] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.121548
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-gr
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[11:49] <Tassos> να κάνει κάποιος ένα κοινόχρηστο φάκελο για ένα τοπικό δίκτυο που όλοι οι υπολογιστές έχουν Xubuntu είναι δύσκολο ρε παιδιά ;
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.124783
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[09:31] <dholbach> dpm_, on our backlog, I'll create a section for snappy if that's all right
[09:31] <dholbach> up until now I shoved everything into developer docs
[09:31] <dpm_> sounds good, thanks dholbach
[09:34] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:42] <dholbach> dpm_, I marked candidates for one of the next sprints with pink (one of the obvious colours which were still free ;-))
[09:42] <dholbach> and added "needs review" (purple)
[09:42] <dholbach> hey czajkowski
[09:44] <czajkowski> dholbach: good morning how are things?
[09:45] <dholbach> good good... just starting to get a bit organised again after UOS :)
[09:45] <dpm_> dholbach, cool, thanks
[09:46] <czajkowski> it seemed to go well last week
[09:46] <czajkowski> a lot of new people online and engaging which is good to see
[13:32] <czajkowski> popey: gift in dm for you :)
[13:32] <popey> ta :)
[13:36] <czajkowski> any thoughts folks - has to be more than timezones :) https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LauraCzajkowski/posts/HQTKw9wZ9Mu
[13:55] <balloons> good morning
[15:41] <czajkowski> dholbach: popey dpm_ local to you (ish) confernece looking for community talks http://www.boosterconf.no/
[16:53] <popey> jose, balloons ping
[16:53] <jose> pong
[16:53] <popey> Admins have disappeared?
[16:53] <popey> I got a thing at the bottom which said "new version of code-in available"
[16:53] <popey> which is probably why
[16:53] <jose> "This user is already assigned to this organization"
[16:53] <popey> they updated the dashboard and it lost our admins
[16:53] <balloons> yea, I see that as well
[16:53] <popey> stupid google
[16:54] <jose> I'll email Stephanie just in case
[16:54] <popey> it says I am the only one
[16:54] <popey> stephanie?
[16:54] <popey> er, also, someone mis-typed my email...
[16:54] <jose> yes, me, sorry
[16:55] <jose> Stephanie is the lead organizer for the contest
[16:57] <balloons> seems others are having the same issue
[16:57] <balloons> things seem to be ok though they say
[16:57] <jose> wat, where did you read?
[16:58] <balloons> stephane says she can read them still
[16:58] <jose> ?
[16:58] * jose is confused
[16:58] <jose> is there a ML where I'm supposed to be but I'm not?
[17:01] <balloons> jose, #fsoc
[17:01] <balloons> #gsoc
[17:01] <jose> ah bah
[17:02] <jose> I left that channel loooong ago
[17:02] <popey> looks fixed now
[17:03] <jose> I'm still seeing [email protected] only
[21:30] <mhall119> popey: do you have a blog post report for OggCamp?
[21:46] <popey> mhall119, no, I haven't written one yet
[21:46] <popey> will set aside some time to do so though, thanks for the reminder
[21:47] <mhall119> thanks popey
[21:47] <mhall119> jcastro: can you link me to your blog about the GPU drivers PPA and hardware you got for it?
[22:46] * popey needs to butter up a US co-worker. I want this T-shirt so badly. https://teespring.com/angelodeath?utm_swu=5078
[22:46] <wxl> what's with the take 2 on the poll?
[22:48] <wxl> is the original poll invalid?
[22:49] <czajkowski> popey: can get it sent to my office in MV and I';;l be over next month or January to collect
[22:49] <wxl> nevermind
[22:49] <czajkowski> or there will be someone coming over berfore then
[22:49] <wxl> just saw email
[22:49] <popey> heh, you jet setter
[22:49] <popey> thanks for the offer.
[22:51] <czajkowski> popey: starts in london in january speaking then FOSDEM, 2 confernes in Feb and then maybe late march speaking and then our event in april followed by wedding honeymoon then OSCON
[22:54] <mhall119> czajkowski: don't forget SCaLE and the big UbuCon in Januart
[22:56] <czajkowski> mhall119: trying to get to Ubuncon but it's the week before sales kick off and whre I am mean to onboard new staff and present the roadmap for the community. and it;s also my 5 year anniversary
[23:00] <mhall119> czajkowski: so....what's one more thing? :)
[23:00] <mhall119> at least I'll see you at least once next spring
[23:01] <czajkowski> :D
[23:23] <popey> mhall119, if you have 5 mins could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/ubuntu-terminal-app/fix-1514519/+merge/277240 ?
[23:23] <popey> It's a "one line" change to fix the font problem, I could do with it being reviewed - I have tested as as dave and ogra, just need someone to +1 it so I can land it
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.129429
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-hr
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[06:53] <BotaniCar> Guba su mandarinke, volim velikeTM
[07:13] <hbogner> ja danas taman jedem zadnje 3 od prosli put
[07:14] <BotaniCar> Meni je stare ukralo, morao sam tri vrece uzet' ovaj put da namirim gladnu raju ..
[07:14] <BotaniCar> jelly: bil' me ti/Tina zaposlili kao sezonca na plantazi ? Hebo 'formatiku !
[07:36] <SilverSpace> jutro
[08:17] <vileni> jutro
[09:26] <jelly> napokon mogu downloadati dvd sa firmverom a da se ne teli satima
[09:26] <jelly> upgradealo nam lokalnu mrezu na ½gigabitnu
[09:28] <obrut> nama je lokalna mreza ocajna... srecom pa ne radimo u telekomunikacijskoj firmi pa se ne nerviram previse :P
[09:29] <jelly> bas to
[09:30] <jelly> morao sam podsjetiti mrezne ljude da imamo 5-6 gigabitnih switcheva viska od seljenja, "daj, znam da imas"
[09:30] <jelly> ali uplink je... isto gigabit, pa imamo QoS i efektivno ½gigabitnu mrezu sad :-)
[09:33] <BotaniCar> eeee, gigabit uplinka je nekaj za pozeljet'
[09:34] <jelly> jok, to je grozno premalo za ofis od 50 radnih mjesta
[09:35] <SilverSpace> jucer razvlacili optiku kroz kvart
[09:35] <jelly> ciju? :-)
[09:35] <SilverSpace> i kaze lik da to nije za nas
[09:35] <SilverSpace> pih
[09:35] <dodobas> yutro
[09:36] <SilverSpace> jelly: nemam pojma uglavnom kroz btnet kanale provlacili
[09:36] <SilverSpace> nisu mi nis vise htjeli reci
[09:36] <SilverSpace> optika je a sad za koga ?? pitaj boga
[09:39] <obrut> nego, jel netko isprobao letsencrypt ?
[09:39] <obrut> krenula je neka beta
[09:40] <jelly> ne, ali vidim da izdaju certifikate koji traju samo tri mjeseca
[09:41] <obrut> izgleda da su se odlucili na takvu politiku
[09:42] <obrut> kao nije bed jer se ionako forsira automatika
[09:43] <jelly> nije bed, osim ak se pocnes oslanjati na njih a krepaju
[09:45] <BotaniCar> obrut: zadnje sto sam ih gledao su bili pre beta, hvala za podsjetnik. Ja cu ih podrzati koristenjem, ako pr'nu, imat cu 5 dana posla da sve vratim na staro i kaj sad.
[09:46] <obrut> o jebote, za prijavu za betu moras popuniti formular ni manje ni vise nego na google formsima
[09:46] <obrut> ma nabijem ih
[09:46] <obrut> treba googletu dati jos podataka, nema dovoljno...
[09:52] <BotaniCar> Ovo kaj te pitaju google vec ionako ima :)
[10:23] <nicols> jutro!
[10:27] <SilverSpace> odoh na sunce dok ga jos ima
[10:45] <BotaniCar> Nisam imao pojma da je Alfresco po defaultu mutitenant !
[10:46] <BotaniCar> Treba tko od vas DMS uslugu, umalo dzabe :)
[10:49] <dodobas> sto je DMS?
[10:55] <nicols> DMS: Dirty Money Syndicate, Drugs Money Sex, Droppin Many Suckas.
[10:55] <nicols> hahahahahahaha
[10:56] <nicols> pretpostavljam da se ipak misli na Doucument Management :)
[11:05] <nicols> http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2015/kubuntu-kde-5-4-3-bugfix-release-available-now-in-wily-backports/
[11:06] <nicols> dodati kubuntu-ppa backports ili ne, pitanje je sada?
[11:16] <BotaniCar> nicols: :))))))
[11:17] * BotaniCar ima jedan potpuno funkcionalan debian koji se samo na backportse naslanja. Valjda pomaze kaj su debianovi backportsi redom godinu dana stariji od aktualnih verzija :)
[11:23] <obrut> lijepo... imamo migraciju korisnika s jedne platforme na drugu na petak 13. u radno vrijeme
[11:23] <obrut> fakat ne znam sto bi moglo poci po zlu :P
[11:27] <BotaniCar> bar znas da e ti se podrska javiti - jer ne spavaju :)
[11:38] <BotaniCar> [...] Windows hasn't had these problems and does not deserve the garbage you're spewing just because you've used Linux for a week and own a stuffed penguin.
[11:38] <BotaniCar> Own.A.Stuffed.Penguin.
[11:38] <BotaniCar> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:39] <ivoks> koje probleme?
[11:39] <ivoks> moje je iskustvo da je windows imao sve moguce probleme
[11:40] <BotaniCar> ivoks: ma isjekao sam jedan komentar s rasprave o Linusovom stavu da je kernel sam po sebi tesko exploitati , da se exploita ononaslonjeno na njega i da security consultanti odjebu u troskoku :)
[11:41] <BotaniCar> Isto se da primjeniti na windowse, kernel, ubog, ne znam da je itko ikad zlorabio. Uvijek sjebu nesh naslonjeno na kernel
[11:41] <BotaniCar> ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/11/05/net-of-insecurity-the-kernel-of-the-argument/ )
[11:42] <obrut> linux kernel je cumez
[11:42] <BotaniCar> inace, ivoks , dze si danas ? Jesi bar u istoj vremenskoj zoni s nama ?
[11:42] <ivoks> toulouse
[11:42] <ivoks> francuzi danas slave obljetnicu primirja s nijemcima, pa je praznik
[11:42] <ivoks> :)
[11:42] <obrut> ivoks: jesi bio u space parku ?
[11:43] <ivoks> nisam, to cu za vikend
[11:43] <ivoks> tu sam ovaj i sljedeci tjedan
[11:43] <obrut> ijao, trci tamo, uzmi si cijeli cijeli dan za to... i dio drugog dana :)
[11:43] <ivoks> pa budem, vikend
[11:44] <obrut> ak bude suncano, uvati pogled na sunce kroz h-alpha filter ako nisi nikad prije
[11:44] <BotaniCar> 'el bio tko na interliberu, u naucnom kampu ? Ako da, jel' ima tema koje bi mom 4godisnjaku bile interesantne ?
[11:44] <obrut> BotaniCar: ja jos nisam, sutra idem nakon posla
[11:44] <obrut> vec vidim kako cu ostavit gomilu para na stripove
[11:44] <BotaniCar> obrut: s postovanjem se biljezim za recenziju :)
[11:45] <ivoks> obrut: nod
[11:52] <obrut> ivoks: ponesi si klopu, ponuda unutra mi nije bila bas :)
[11:53] <ivoks> a bio si?
[11:53] <ivoks> taj cijeli toulouse postoji samo zbog airbusa :)
[11:55] <obrut> bio sam prošle godine
[11:57] <obrut> u povratku iz Španjolske... gledam kartu, reko prolazimo kraj Toulousea... onak, mota mi se po glavi da je tamo neki space centar... i onak 20-tak km prije izlaza sa autoputa upalim mobilni internet, proguglam i skuzim da ima taj space park... reko zeni, koci ! :) otpeljali se tamo, precorili na parkingu za kampere ispred samog parka i ujutro prvi na ulazu :)
[11:58] <ivoks> to cu u subotu ici
[11:58] <obrut> kao bicemo do 1-2 pa nastaviti prema HR, vraga, ostali do 7 navecer
[11:58] <obrut> i bilo nam zao sto moramo vec ici
[11:59] <ivoks> razmisljao sam da mozda odem do andore ili spanjolske za vikend
[11:59] <obrut> cak i mojoj zeni koja nije navudrena na svemir i tehnologiju je bilo skroz zabavno
[11:59] <ivoks> al... space centar je mozda bolja opcija :)
[11:59] <obrut> andora je fora, mislili smo i tamo otici, ali fakat nismo stigli sve
[11:59] <ivoks> bio sam u londonu u njihovom muzeju
[11:59] <ivoks> nije toliko spejsi, ali vole enigmatiku :)
[11:59] <ivoks> i kriptiranje
[12:00] <ivoks> ne vjerujem da sam spakirao robu za 2 tjedna u obican carryon kofer
[12:01] <ivoks> doduse, racunam da ce mi hotel oprati kosulje u ponedjeljak :)
[12:02] <ivoks> fora mali butikni hotel. imas kavu badava...
[12:02] <ivoks> a imaju i 'honesty bar'
[12:02] <ivoks> jedes i pijes sto hoces i onda sam napises koliko si pojeo i popio
[12:02] <BotaniCar> Nemaju bas goste iz nasih krajeva,kazes ? :D
[12:03] <ivoks> ne
[12:03] <ivoks> ponekad je tuzno kad to vidis i znas... bas ono znas... da netko od nasih dodje, ostali bi bez svega
[12:04] <jelly> zato se zove honesty bar, ne balkanci bar
[12:04] <pkiller> zbog hrvata utopija ne bi funkcionirala :)
[12:04] <ivoks> doduse, malo smo i prestrogi prema sebi
[12:04] <ivoks> mozda nismo najposteniji narod
[12:04] <jelly> ma funkcionirala bi, hrvati su dobri.. u Austrougarskoj pod diktaturom
[12:05] <ivoks> ali jos nisam vidio grad vani koji je cist kao i zagreb
[12:05] <ivoks> ajde, tokio, japanci su jako uredni
[12:05] <jelly> navikli bi se i na postenje samo da ga netko nametne
[12:05] <jelly> ivoks: .sg ?
[12:05] <ivoks> singapur je bolestan
[12:05] <ivoks> to nije odlika naroda
[12:05] <ivoks> vec represija
[12:05] <ivoks> japanci su cisti
[12:06] <jelly> tak svejedno, ak su uspjeli isfurati ;-)
[12:06] <ivoks> a osim toga, nisam bio u singapuru jos
[12:06] <ivoks> malo sam razocaran
[12:06] <ivoks> taman dogovorio posao u francuskoj
[12:06] <ivoks> i kao ajde, ici cu to odraditi
[12:06] <ivoks> i nakon toga uletio jedan u emiratima
[12:07] <ivoks> mogao sam biti u dubaiju tjedan dana umjesto toulousea dva tjedna
[12:07] <ivoks> sta sad... drugi put :)
[12:07] <jelly> kaj ces tamo, vruce
[12:07] <jelly> i umjetno
[12:07] <pkiller> ivoks ti baš voliš putovati ili samo žena? :)
[12:08] <ivoks> nemam zenu
[12:08] <ivoks> odnosno, kak se uzme :)
[12:08] <ivoks> po jednu u svakoj luci :)
[12:09] <ivoks> jelly: vidjeti
[12:10] <pkiller> ivoks: Giacomo Cassanova :)
[12:11] <jelly> pa onda gonoherpesifilaids
[12:12] <BotaniCar> ivoks: imas koga pitati jel se formalno obrazovanje steceno u Dubaiu priznaje u EU/kod nas ?
[12:13] <ivoks> ne
[12:13] <BotaniCar> Tja, onda odem bez deteta :)
[12:13] <ivoks> kako dobro izgleda
[12:13] <ivoks> http://www.tagheuerconnected.com/product
[12:13] <obrut> inače kod nas postoji kamp u kojem piješ pivu koliko hoćeš i platiš po principu poštenja, ubaciš u kutiju, nitko te ne kontrolira
[12:13] <ivoks> steta kaj je 10.000kn
[12:13] <obrut> da, kod nas, u rvackoj
[12:13] <ivoks> velim, mozda samo prestrogi prema sebi
[12:14] <ivoks> nisu drugi idila
[12:14] <obrut> sto je najzanimljivije, ja takvima obicno ostavim vise para nego sto inace kosta
[12:14] <BotaniCar> zakaj linkas tu uru svugdje, nakon sto sam ju vidio na FB mi je slina curila 2 sata
[12:14] <ivoks> kad se to cekalo :)
[12:15] <ivoks> iako, za te novce se moze dobiti super sat
[12:15] <BotaniCar> ili manji auto :)
[12:15] <ivoks> ocekivao sam ipak nesto vise od tag heuera
[12:16] <nicols> a kako ovo lijepo izgleda: http://netdna.coolthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/sennheiser-orpheus-2.jpg
[12:16] <pkiller> nije mu opravdana cijena
[12:16] <ivoks> kako nije
[12:16] <pkiller> platiš samo ime...
[12:16] <ivoks> samo materijal od kojeg je napravljen kosta toliko :)
[12:16] <ivoks> to je sve titanium
[12:16] <pkiller> ma ne baš... to nama prodaju spiku, ti materijali su teško obradivi a ne skupi
[12:17] <ivoks> pa zato su skupi :)
[12:17] <ivoks> nije bmw skup jer je od lima
[12:17] <ivoks> vec jer je bmw obradio taj lim ;)
[12:17] <obrut> nicols: sta ti je lijepo ? te slusalice ??
[12:17] <pkiller> da / ali :)
[12:17] <pkiller> sad se to više ne radi ručno
[12:17] <BotaniCar> obrut: afaik, to nisu slusalice vec najprecizniji reproduktor zvuka na planeti u ovom trenutku ! :)
[12:17] <nicols> da
[12:17] <nicols> http://en-de.sennheiser.com/orpheus
[12:18] <obrut> pa nek lijepo svira, al su ruzne :)
[12:18] <nicols> state-of-the-art
[12:18] <ivoks> pkiller: govorimo o tag heuer
[12:18] <BotaniCar> #onokad das timu inzinjera kamion love i direktivu da nadmase sami sebe :)
[12:18] <ivoks> ne o appleu koji radi svoje u kini
[12:19] <ivoks> anyway
[12:19] <ivoks> ja bi radje uzeo normalni tag heuer
[12:19] <pkiller> mislim da ovo outsorsaju... sumljam da bi uložili za jedan sat toliko
[12:19] <ivoks> ovo je mozda najjeftiniji 'swiss made' sat :)
[12:19] <ivoks> sat se radi u svicarskoj
[12:19] <ivoks> u suprotnom ne bi smio imati 'swiss made' oznaku
[12:20] <SilverSpace> ovo nije normalno kak je vruce vani
[12:20] <obrut> SilverSpace: samo zanovijetas nesto :) jel pedaliras barem stogod ? vrijeme je idealno za to
[12:21] <ivoks> doduse... nisam siguran da ima swiss made oznaku :D
[12:21] <pkiller> ivoks: to i ja baš tražim
[12:21] <ivoks> inace, tag heuer se moze nabaviti na amazonu sa 20-30% popusta
[12:22] <ivoks> jer amazon nije ovlasteni distributer, pa je garancija kraca (2-3 godine, i to od amazona, a ne od tag heuera)
[12:22] <pkiller> piše swiss engeniered :) marketinški trik u stilu ciganskog "pitaj koga hočeš to je original"
[12:23] <ivoks> http://www.tagheuer.co.uk/int-en/luxury-watches/formula-1/formula-1-200mchronograph42mm-anthracite-with-%C2%AB-sunray-%C2%BB-effect-ceramic-bracelet
[12:24] <pkiller> da imam ferari i da u slobodno vrijeme vozim red bull air race... dapače :)
[12:26] <ivoks> pa nije ovaj tako strasan
[12:26] <ivoks> 15k kuna
[12:26] <ivoks> to je jedan od jeftinijih
[12:26] <ivoks> cak nije ni automatic
[12:27] <ivoks> ovaj s druge strane...
[12:27] <ivoks> http://www.tagheuer.co.uk/int-en/luxury-watches/formula-1/formula-1-calibre-16automatic-chronograph44-mm-anthracite-sunray-effect-ceramic-bracelet
[12:27] <pkiller> da mi ga netko pokloni... prodao bi ga
[12:28] <ivoks> hahaha
[12:38] <pkiller> već kad valjamo puste želje :) http://www.planecheck.com?ent=da&id=25903
[12:39] <ivoks> ili
[12:39] <ivoks> http://www.audi.hr/modeli/a6/a6_limousine/
[12:40] <pkiller> kad smo kod auto ja sam vrlo skroman
[12:41] <BotaniCar> pkiller: why think small ?! Imas za 4m$ 747icu :)
[12:41] <ivoks> 747icama ce cijena sad padati
[12:41] <ivoks> :D :D :D :D
[12:41] <ivoks> moci ce se nabaviti i za 3 do 3,5 milje
[12:41] <ivoks> :D
[12:41] <BotaniCar> Apropo aviona, ne samo da su Kinezi predstavili svoj, nego sad i japanci !
[12:41] <ivoks> ne 747-8, ali ove starije vec da
[12:41] <BotaniCar> http://gizmodo.com/japans-first-ever-passenger-jet-just-took-its-maiden-fl-1741871089
[12:42] <ivoks> dugo im je trebalo
[12:42] <jelly> a koliko dodje registracija i tehnicki
[12:42] <ivoks> brazilci odavno svoje prodaju po cijelom svijetu
[12:42] <BotaniCar> Svi rade avione, osim nas :(
[12:42] <pkiller> ivoks: http://www.njuskalo.hr/auti/mercedes-cls-klasa-350-cdi-oglas-15778375
[12:43] <ivoks> ma kakav mercedes
[12:43] <obrut> http://www.bmc-switzerland.com/bx-en/bikes/road/endurance-granfondo-gf01_disc-105/
[12:43] <ivoks> to je za hercegovce i lopove
[12:43] <ivoks> nitko ne vozi mercedese vise :D
[12:43] <pkiller> nisam hercegovac... a da budem lopov nisam imao prilike :)
[12:44] <obrut> kakvi mercedesi i audiji... škoda roomster :)
[12:45] <pkiller> sviđa mi se linija cls-a inače da imam para prije bi uzeo teslu S ili nisan GTR :)
[12:46] <ivoks> majke ti...
[12:47] <ivoks> maas 1.9 je zvjerka
[12:57] <SilverSpace> obrut: skoro nista tu i tam po kruh
[12:57] <SilverSpace> dadilja sam citav dan
[12:59] <ivoks> PREDSJEDNIK IDS-A PORUČIO SDP-U 'Naša podrška nije bezuvjetna, nulta točka za bilo kakve daljnje razgovore je Istra kao samostalna regija'
[13:00] <ivoks> jel on shvaca da IDS ne nosi nikakvu prevagu vise i da bas i nije u poziciji postavljati uvjete?
[13:00] <ivoks> i to uvjet koji je u suprotnosti s uvjetom mosta, koji ima 19 glasova
[13:00] <ivoks> a ids, koliko 1-2?
[13:00] <jelly> 4
[13:00] <ivoks> svejedno
[13:00] <ivoks> malo.
[13:01] <ivoks> zna se da se ids nece slizati sa hdzom, a da ce se manjinci slizati sa sdpom
[13:01] <ivoks> sdp-u ids ne treba
[13:01] <jelly> štoviše, zanemarivo malo :-)
[13:02] <ivoks> dakle... u francuskoj se radi do 12:30
[13:02] <ivoks> onda se ide na rucak koji traje do 13:15
[13:02] <ivoks> nakon toga se sjeda na kavu, cigaretu i tako to
[13:02] <ivoks> i to traje do 13:45-14:00
[13:02] <ivoks> onda se radi do 16:00
[13:02] <ivoks> a nedjeljom ne radi nista
[13:02] <ivoks> n.i.s.t.a.
[13:02] <SilverSpace> jelly: 3
[13:03] <jelly> još bolje
[13:07] <BotaniCar> IDS galami jer bi inace postojala opravdana zabrinutost da su ih svi zaboravili dan nakon izbora.
[13:07] <BotaniCar> Jebenti stranku za koju, ocito, ni clanovi nisu glasali
[13:09] <jelly> ids je isti kua ko hdz, samo za istrijane
[13:09] <jelly> imaju kolicinu narodnih glasova, koje nece izgubit
[13:10] <BotaniCar> Kak onda nemaju glasace iza sebe ? O HDZu mozemo i moramo erci stosta, ali userbase im je stabilan
[13:10] <jelly> pa obicno imaju
[13:10] <BotaniCar> U stvari, mozda sam zabrijao, koliko Istra ima stanovnika u dobi za glasanje ?
[13:11] <jelly> kaj, od 4-5 su dobili 3, ne? Zadnji put kad sam gledao (u nedjelju navecer) je bilo svih 4 valjda
[13:11] <BotaniCar> Imas pravo, ja sam se zabrojao
[13:12] <jelly> to je sve bagra koja indirektno veli "nasi ljudi su uhljebljeni u lokalnoj upravi i ako nas ne slusate, kajle pod noge"
[13:13] <BotaniCar> ivoks: zajebi Audi, kupi Lincolna ( https://www.facebook.com/AmazingRides/photos/a.180233982101499.15337.179406448850919/423498957774999/?type=3&theater )
[13:13] <jelly> samo se boja tih uhljeba mijenja od zupanije do zupanije, i od opcine do opcine
[13:15] <SilverSpace> ids u svojoj izbornoj ima 19% hdz 17%
[13:15] <SilverSpace> tak da to i nije nesto
[13:15] <SilverSpace> sdp 37%ž
[13:16] <SilverSpace> most je dobio 10%
[13:16] <jelly> zato sto su jedinice gerrymandered
[13:16] <BotaniCar> bas sam mislio napisati da znamo tko je kroji IJ
[13:16] <BotaniCar> <3 gerrymandered !!
[13:16] <jelly> (ne znam kako se veli na hrvatskom, kreativno skrojene?)
[13:17] <jelly> nacrtane?
[13:17] <jelly> da uzmes izbornu jedinicu istru + cres, losinj...
[13:17] <SilverSpace> rijeku
[13:19] <jelly> ne
[13:19] <SilverSpace> jelly: da gledam cca 40% ides negdje malo vise
[13:20] <jelly> ucka i cicarija su prirodna granica koja poskupljuje prijevoz i odvaja istru u ekonomskom smislu
[13:22] <ivoks> hrvatsku treba podijeliti na prirodne regije
[13:22] <ivoks> a ne na umjetne politicke
[13:23] <jelly> eh
[13:23] <ivoks> istra je prirodna regija
[13:23] <ivoks> imaju svoju floru i faunu cak
[13:23] <ivoks> nas je problem sto smo mlada drzava
[13:23] <jelly> al s druge strane nije mudro staviti neki prirodno izolirani, a siromasan kraj jos i politicki odvojiti
[13:24] <ivoks> pa se svi boje, ako se naprave takve regije, da ce se netko odcijpeiti
[13:25] <pkiller> istra prva
[13:25] <pkiller> ako bude šanse za odcjepljenje 90% stanovnika istre će glasati za
[13:25] <jelly> istra se nema potrebe odcijepiti
[13:26] <pkiller> jelly ima... pogledaj samo turističke rezultate istre i ostatka primorja
[13:26] <pkiller> koliko kampova ima u istri a koliko u cijeloj hrvatskoj :)
[13:26] <jelly> pkiller: jesi bio u tim navodnim kampovima zadnjih par godina?
[13:27] <pkiller> jesam... dižu cijene zbog poreza pa su sve prazniji
[13:28] <pkiller> porez na porez na porez... to je prvo što bi se ukinulo da se odvoji istra...
[13:28] <jelly> bi kurac, samo bi pinku skupljao ids umjesto zagreba
[13:28] <pkiller> sad mi reci da to nije bolje :)
[13:29] <pkiller> znaš da recimo di ja živim nema uopće prireza
[13:30] <pkiller> 50% gradskog proračuna nisu ni uspjeli potrošiti koliko gradske firme zarađuju
[13:31] <pkiller> da se samo grad odvoji od hrvatske već bi bili na konju :)
[13:31] <jelly> nije bolje, ovako postoji minimalna kontrola toga sto ce IDS proda^H^H^H^H^Hiznajmiti na 99 godina
[13:31] * jelly iz Pule
[13:32] <pkiller> a zato si ti tako ogorčen... :)
[13:32] <pkiller> pula je inače naj depresivniji grad istre po mom mišljenju
[13:32] <jelly> nisam, samo znam da je to ista bagra
[13:33] <pkiller> frend išao živit u pulu smršavio 15 kila od stresa u roku od godinu dana
[13:33] <jelly> to treba reklamirat
[13:34] <pkiller> htio je biti "vlastiti čovjek" eto mu sad :)
[13:34] <dodobas> e Mmike jesi koristio kad RRDTool, direktno?
[13:35] <ivoks> pkiller: pa ako se hoce odcijpeiti, sto onda?
[13:36] <ivoks> pkiller: tko ce reci sto ce istrijani raditi? ti, ja ili istrijani?
[13:36] <ivoks> jadna li je drzava koja drzi sve na kupu putem terora
[13:36] <pkiller> pa ja i istijani :)
[13:36] <ivoks> kada i ako hrvatska bude prosperitetna zemlja, istrijani nece htjeti samostalnost jer ce im biti dobro
[13:36] <pkiller> ja i jelly ćemo odlučiti ako nam daju priliku :)
[13:36] <ivoks> kao sto smo i mi bili u jugi dok nam je bilo dobro
[13:37] <pkiller> svi šute kad im je dobro
[13:37] <pkiller> a altruisti šute i kad im nije dobro :)
[13:37] <jelly> stoga, treba napraviti da sivm abude dobro, a dalje lako
[13:37] <obrut> dodobas: ja sam koristio rrd library iz pythona ak ti to sto znaci... i to neki test... a onda sam odustao i uzeo drugi library :)
[13:38] <pkiller> jelly znanjem se to odrađuje...
[13:38] <pkiller> treba širiti znanje i zainteresirat mlade
[13:38] <jelly> rrd je grozno spor kad ih imas parsto tisuca
[13:39] <jelly> i zelis ih refreshat i crtat pa recimo bar svakih 5 minuta
[13:39] <ivoks> hm
[13:39] * jelly gleda http://prometheus.io/
[13:39] <ivoks> ako sam u francuskoj
[13:39] <ivoks> na radu
[13:39] <ivoks> i praznik je u francuskoj
[13:39] <ivoks> je li onda praznik i za mene?
[13:40] <dodobas> obrut: koji drugi ?
[13:40] <jelly> ivoks: ako ne mozes obavljati posao zbog njega, da
[13:40] <pkiller> ivoks: mislim da je jer smo dio europske unije :)
[13:41] <ivoks> tocno
[13:41] <ivoks> hm
[13:41] <dodobas> obrut: odnosno, zasto si odustao
[13:42] <obrut> dodobas: ovaj, presao sam i na drugi library i na drugi jezik -> javu :)
[13:42] <obrut> pa u tom trenutku mi se cinilo za taj projekt gdje sam prvo razmatrao rrd da ce mi te neke stvari biti lakse u necem drugom napravit
[13:43] <BotaniCar> jelly: kre je jednom pohvalio prometheus, ali ga nikad nisam dobio da mi veli kaj je u njemu tak revolucionarno osim dobre integracije s HAproxyem
[13:43] <dodobas> a meni treba nesto jednostavno, s potencijalnom potrebom za nekim agregatnim vrijednostima
[13:44] <jelly> BotaniCar: ne mora biti nista vidljivo, dosta je da su strukture podataka takve da mozes tocit brojke unutra i čitati ih van a da ne zgazi disk
[13:45] <BotaniCar> Slazem se
[13:45] <dodobas> da, mogu to posloziti i sam, ali nemam volje pisati agregatne funkcije i data retention policyie ...
[13:45] <jelly> (za razliku, od, recimo, 20k .rrd datoteka koje treba procitati, updateat, zapisat svakih 5 minuta i gazis disk sa random io)
[13:45] <dodobas> jelly: pa ima rrdcached ...
[13:46] <jelly> štaka
[13:46] <dodobas> munin ga ne koristi... kolikonam
[13:46] <dodobas> *znam
[13:48] <dodobas> jelly: probao si ili onako odaktivno komentiras?
[13:48] <jelly> na kraju svaki pametni sustav pise kao baze... ima neki block-level tablespace, ima tx log u koji pise sekvencijalno sve nove podatke, i ima indekse sa strane
[13:48] <dodobas> prometheus ... koristi leveldb
[13:48] <jelly> dodobas: nisam probao, trenutno se uopće nemam vremena bavit s tim
[13:50] <SilverSpace> dečki se igraju s gumenim lutkama, cure s gumenim penisima i svemir je u ravnoteži.
[13:50] <SilverSpace> lol
[13:52] <jelly> s/gumenim/plišanim/;
[14:05] <BotaniCar> HA! Jedite ovo, pesimisti http://www.poslovni.hr/hrvatska/njemacka-dio-svoje-autoindustrije-seli-u-hrvatsku-304575
[14:12] <jelly> jebemti novinare
[14:13] <jelly> senzacionalisticki naslov koji nema veze s onim sto stvarno pise unutra
[14:13] <jelly> sad sam skuzio da se jobenty izgovara manje-vise jebenti
[14:49] <SilverSpace> japanci napravili prvi putnicki mlazni avion
[14:50] <SilverSpace> micubissi
[14:50] <SilverSpace> mitsubishi*
[14:53] <SilverSpace> 270 000 nevažečih listića
[14:53] <SilverSpace> ha
[14:59] <BotaniCar> 270k nevazecih listica, 380k nepostojecih glasaca, zatvoreno prebrojavanje .. interesantno
[14:59] <obrut> ovaj officefax je fakat sranje
[14:59] <obrut> pardon
[15:00] <obrut> libreoffice :)
[15:06] <jelly> skoro sam i sam napravio nevažeći listić
[15:07] <SilverSpace> obrut: kaj ti nesto pojeo :)
[15:08] <obrut> ja sam obicno do sad namjerno generirao nevazece... ovo su mi valjda prvi izbori gdje sam cak i dao glas nekom
[15:08] <obrut> SilverSpace: ponekad se pravi pametan, a ponekad radi sranja...
[15:08] <SilverSpace> jelly: ma ne vjerujem da ih je 270K
[15:08] <SilverSpace> nestvaran mio je taj podatak
[15:09] <obrut> i tak... narucimo server, obavimo svu papirologiju (a kod nas u firmi je to fakat birokracija) i dva dana prije isteka roka isporuke jave oni nama da tog servera vise nema u ponudi
[15:09] <obrut> nabijem ih
[15:09] <jelly> SilverSpace: jesmo nas dvojica gledali u istu plahtu :-)
[15:09] <jelly> da, puno je, al to je kaj, 5-7%?
[15:10] <obrut> al dobicemo kao noviju generaciju za cak nesto manje para... obzirom na procedure, vjerojatno sljedece godine :P
[15:10] <SilverSpace> obrut: pa ne zuri vam se
[15:10] <SilverSpace> :)
[15:11] <obrut> ma je kitu, cekam taj server ko ozebao sunce :)
[15:11] <jelly> obrut: s obzirom da znam kako ide procedura jer su je %T$#@@ uveli i kod nas $%@, ne kužim zašto naručujete jedan (1) server
[15:11] <SilverSpace> jelly: mislim da je to od izaslih i 10%
[15:11] <jelly> moguće
[15:11] <obrut> jelly: jebiga, ovo su specijalne namjene :)
[15:12] <jelly> obrut: ma bullshit, to samo znači da ne buš imao rezervnih dijelova kad krepa pa će specijalna namjenaimat produljeni downtime
[15:13] <SilverSpace> nekih 65% je glasalo
[15:13] <SilverSpace> obrut: kad ga dobis bude vec zastario
[15:14] <SilverSpace> pa ti ne bu to novija generacija
[15:15] <jelly> serveri srecom ne izlaze tako brzo
[15:31] <Vlado9A3CY> hell o world
[15:49] <obrut> frend provokator, krenuo na voznju biciklinom i poslao mi link na "garmin live activity" :P
[15:50] <obrut> a vozi se ko baba, za sad mu je prosjek 21 khm
[15:51] <SilverSpace> :)
[15:55] <Mmike> i OPET je upgrade ownclouda sjebao isti
[16:09] <ivoks> lol
[16:09] <ivoks> slovenci fakat podigli zicu
[16:10] <ivoks> kakve budale
[16:14] <Mmike> kakvi diletantni ovi s owncloudom :(
[16:14] <Mmike> dodobas: jesam, al' za munin grafove isto
[16:15] <Mmike> dodobas: u pornjavi sam napravio munin-like kufer koji je koristio munin plugine al' si mogao sam izabrati sampling
[16:15] <Mmike> pa si mogo rec, cuvaj zadnjih pol sata, semplaj svakih 15 sekundi
[16:15] <Mmike> i onda kad su mi obrisali account kad sam odlazio, obrisali su i to :)
[16:22] <dodobas> Mmike: pa to i mozes s rrdtoolom ...
[16:22] <dodobas> mislim, munin mi ne treba
[16:22] <Mmike> kaj mozes?
[16:22] <Mmike> naravn oda ti treba
[16:22] <Mmike> munin ima pluginove
[16:22] <Mmike> je'l pricamo o istom mi? :)
[16:22] <dodobas> nope... treba mi nesto sto moze pamtit i vratit vrijednosti
[16:23] <Mmike> rrd to moze
[16:23] <Mmike> al' moze i sqlite :)
[16:23] <dodobas> e ali sqlite nema poslozen RRA
[16:23] <vileni> Mmike: daj mi reci kako radis onaj benchmark
[16:23] <vileni> povray
[16:23] <Mmike> vileni: to je bar lako :) `povray --benchmark` :)
[16:24] <dodobas> grafovi mi i nisu bitni
[16:24] <Mmike> dodobas: pa ok
[16:24] <vileni> Mmike: apt-get install povray i povray --benchmark?
[16:24] <Mmike> velim
[16:24] <Mmike> vileni: da, mislim d ati treba i povray-examples paket
[16:24] <Mmike> od kad je <?php ?> default !?
[16:41] <vileni> Mmike: http://jebo.me/pas/6
[16:43] <jelly> za nešto što se zove Atom, izgleda dobro
[16:44] <vileni> Mmike: pejstaj listu kad uvrstis, zanima me koliko je spor :)
[17:04] <nicols> uf
[17:04] <nicols> al je gužva ovdje :)
[17:10] <jelly> nemreš dihat
[17:32] <Mmike> vileni, sacmo to :)
[17:33] <Mmike> jelly, nemas stare pasteove? :)
[17:39] <vileni> ja se ne sjecam ni okvirno koliko su bili
[17:39] <vileni> mislim da je neki superserver imao oko minutu i sitno
[19:05] <vileni> Mmike: sto da radim kad mi nece destroyat juju environment
[19:13] <Mmike> vileni, kak se manifestira to?
[19:13] <Mmike> error neki dobijes, kaj?
[19:38] <Mmike> ivoks, ti kad kupujes od amazona jel' to na firmu ili?
[20:15] <vileni> Mmike: zapeo mi je na bootstrap
[20:15] <vileni> i sad ne mogu destroyat taj environment
[20:15] <vileni> nista juju ne radi
[20:15] <vileni> virtualka koju si je uzeo je upaljena
[20:16] <vileni> ERROR cannot connect to API: unable to connect to "wss://10.10.10.50:17070/
[20:17] <jelly> Mmike: ne
[20:52] <Mmike> vileni, destroyay sa --force
[20:53] <Mmike> taj error, to je od bootstrapa, ili od jujua poslije?
[20:59] <vileni> Mmike: juju poslije
[20:59] <vileni> nije bootstrap zavrsio uspjesno iz nekog razloga, pa mi juju neresponzivan
[20:59] <Mmike> vileni, strahovito je ovo komplicirano, dajes informacije na kapaljku :)
[21:00] <vileni> Mmike: pa dodji na mandarine pa mi objasni sve :P
[21:00] <Mmike> vileni, copy pasteaj output od 'juju bootstrap', ak ti je virtualka pokrenuta usshaj se u nju i vidi kaj imas u /var/log/juju
[21:00] <Mmike> ili, ubi sve i probaj ponovo
[21:00] <Mmike> u MAAS web UIju releasaj taj node, a lokalno obrisi ~/,juju/environments/maas.jenv
[21:01] <Mmike> ili kak ti se vec zove environment
[21:01] <Mmike> i onda kad bootstrapas, reci: juju bootstrap -v --show-log --debug
[21:01] <vileni> Mmike: kako se usshajam
[21:01] <Mmike> vileni, imas u .juju/ssh ssh kljuceve
[21:02] <Mmike> ssh -i ~/.juju/ssh/juju_id_rsa.pub ubuntu@ajpiadresaodvirtualke
[21:02] <vileni> Mmike: nemam
[21:02] <vileni> to na maas stroju?
[21:03] <Mmike> ne, na stroju s kojeg pokreces juju komande
[21:03] <vileni> pa to mi je maas stroj zapravo
[21:03] <Mmike> pa onda tamo
[21:04] <Mmike> vileni, btw, imas neki kukbuk po kojem radis, ili?
[21:04] <vileni> sad vise ne
[21:04] <vileni> isao sam po ovom http://dinosaursareforever.blogspot.hr/search/label/openstack
[21:04] <vileni> djelomicno
[21:05] <Mmike> da, to je kul
[21:05] <Mmike> lik je vrlo dobro to sve objasnio
[21:05] <vileni> mislim da si mi vec slao tog prije nekad
[21:05] <vileni> ili neki drugi koji ima dinosaure u url :)
[21:05] <Mmike> vileni, jel' ti opce radi sshd na toj virtualki? se mosh telnetat na broj 22?
[21:05] <Mmike> ak sam ti ja slao onda sam ti taj slao :)
[21:06] <vileni> force je uspio
[21:06] <Mmike> vileni, s tim da je on tu izkomplicirao s 'admin mrezom' za openstack, sto ti ne treba
[21:06] <vileni> a vidim
[21:06] <Mmike> vileni, jel' virtualka ugasena?
[21:06] <vileni> sad je
[21:07] <Mmike> i u maasu je releasana?
[21:07] <vileni> da
[21:07] <vileni> sad opet bootstrapam
[21:07] <Mmike> jesi turio --debug --show-log -v ?
[21:07] <vileni> nope
[21:07] <Mmike> e jebiga :)
[21:08] <vileni> uglavnom, ovo me zanimalo, kako ssh u te strojeve
[21:08] <vileni> sad moram cekati da mi se bootstrapa prvi
[21:08] <Mmike> "wss://10.10.10.50:17070/
[21:09] <Mmike> na 17070 slusa jujud na svakom stroju koji juju pokrece
[21:09] <Mmike> juju cli se spoji na 17070 od boostrap nodea i s njim prica
[21:12] <vileni> sta si rekao da koristis, apt-cacher?
[21:13] <Mmike> yup
[21:13] <Mmike> al' to ti nece raditi s maasom
[21:13] <Mmike> maas ima squid-proxyu ili taki neki drek
[21:13] <Mmike> i sam to slozi sve, pa se moras sekirati oko toga
[21:13] <Mmike> jadno je, jer stvari expireaju od tamo, al' radi
[21:14] <Mmike> (apt-cacher-ng je puno bolji, IMHO, ja ga koristim za local provider)
[21:14] <Mmike> vileni, sto imas na desktopu/laptopu?
[21:14] <vileni> kako mislis sto imam?
[21:14] <vileni> na desktopu imam win10, laptop ni nemam svoj, ali od cure isto ima win10 :)
[21:15] <Mmike> a uzas :)
[21:16] <Mmike> imas local provider za juju
[21:16] <Mmike> koji ti sve to napravi lokalno u LXC kontejnerima
[21:16] <vileni> pa pricam ja svima da mi treba laptop
[21:16] <vileni> a onda "stedi za namjestaj, stedi za vjencanje, kupi si nesto za obuci, jedi"
[21:21] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjWBw4tZUO4
[21:21] <datase> YouTube: UP 844-The Greatest Pacing Shot...EVER. - 0:14:03 - 208002 views - 598 likes / 34 dislikes
[21:21] <Mmike> vileni, :D
[21:21] <Mmike> vileni, jel' se butstrepalo? :)
[21:21] <vileni> a nije, skida nesto
[21:21] <vileni> sto odbrojava u postocima, sa tockicama preko cijelog ekrana
[21:21] <Mmike> vjerojatno imidz s maas kontrolera
[21:21] <Mmike> da
[21:21] <vileni> taj dio bi htio ubrzati
[21:22] <Mmike> pa, to je brzo koliko je mreza brza
[21:22] <vileni> pa neznam bas
[21:22] <vileni> doduse, zavisi iz koje regije skida
[21:22] <vileni> ja sam sve stavio na US, jer inace sere kod instalacije
[21:22] <vileni> a mreza je 1gbit mislim
[21:35] <Mmike> pa skida s maas kontrolera
[21:35] <Mmike> na njemu su imidzi svi
[21:41] <vileni> hm
[21:41] <vileni> da
[21:41] <vileni> to je na istom kvm stroju
[21:41] <vileni> zasto je onda tako sporo
[21:42] <Mmike> vidi na maas stroju kaj sise od kud
[21:42] <vileni> ERROR failed to bootstrap environment: bootstrap instance started but did not change to Deployed state: instance "/MAAS/api/1.0/nodes/node-3b846d0c-87df-11e5-bd15-5254003bd275/" is started but not deployed
[21:46] <Mmike> trbea mi output sa --show-log i debug i svime ostalime
[21:46] <Mmike> jel' ti radi sshd na tom deployanom nodu?
[21:46] <vileni> kako tocno napisem za show log
[21:47] <vileni> aha
[21:47] <vileni> nisam obrisao onaj environment
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[00:09] <TJ-> what does the raw data on the drive look like for the first 8 sectors?
[00:13] <daftykins> i've just managed to obtain the program and convert it, it's appearing as "GPT protected" to my windows 10 PC
[00:13] <daftykins> firing up a Linux machine now
[00:16] <daftykins> perhaps MS have changed their methodology since this program was made
[00:17] <daftykins> xubuntu claims the GPT tables are corrupted
[00:18] <TJ-> look at the raw data, ignore the tools
[00:19] <daftykins> yeah i'll revert it to stock first
[00:22] <daftykins> hrmm not used to using dd in this context; is "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=file bs=1M count=1 ok to grab the first 1MB? :) seems not based on the data i saw
[00:22] * daftykins puts another " up there
[00:24] <daftykins> hrmm hexdump
[00:24] <TJ-> daftykins: yes that works
[00:25] <TJ-> then you can "hexdump -C file"
[00:25] <daftykins> hehe, i guess 1MB is a lot... it's going for some time.
[00:26] <daftykins> ah there we go, man page to the rescue
[00:26] <TJ-> well, it should be 512 x 35 sectors to get primary GPT
[00:27] <TJ-> so about 20KB is all that is needed
[00:27] <daftykins> i can't work out what value or unit hexdump -n requires for 'length'
[00:28] <daftykins> the manpage is rubbish
[00:28] <daftykins> or i could just host the file XD
[00:29] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/k2omzaodp46q8ae/dd?dl=0
[00:29] <daftykins> that appears to have a download function
[00:29] <daftykins> ah yeah i see some strings using "hexdump -C file -n 1024"
[00:35] <TJ-> dropbox doesn't work for me, not even with allowing its Javascript
[00:36] <daftykins> ok lemme throw it on a webserver
[00:37] <daftykins> http://techblo.gg/stuff/dd_image
[00:37] <daftykins> that should be good :>
[00:39] <TJ-> oooo! 000001f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 99 cc |................|
[00:40] <TJ-> those last 2 signature bytes are usually 55 AA so it looks like 99 CC is the 'locked' signature
[00:40] <TJ-> I bet if you change those it'd be read by the tools
[00:42] <daftykins> ooh :D what'd be the easiest way to action that change?
[00:43] <TJ-> fdisk -l /dev/loop1
[00:43] <TJ-> GPT PMBR size mismatch (976773165 != 2047) will be corrected by w(rite).
[00:43] <TJ-> Disk /dev/loop1: 1 MiB, 1048576 bytes, 2048 sectors
[00:43] <TJ-> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[00:43] <TJ-> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[00:43] <TJ-> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[00:43] <TJ-> Disklabel type: dos
[00:43] <TJ-> Disk identifier: 0x78563412
[00:43] <TJ-> Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
[00:43] <TJ-> /dev/loop1p1 1 976773165 976773165 465.8G ee GPT
[00:43] <TJ-> oops! pastebin silly :D
[00:43] <TJ-> "hexedit" ... type-over with the correct values at offset 0x1FE, then Ctrl+X to save (answer Yes)
[00:43] <daftykins> ooh ty
[00:43] <TJ-> BUT... don't do it on the device itself!!
[00:44] <TJ-> the EFI-SP starts where the primary GPT should start
[00:44] <daftykins> ah just on the file, then dd to and fro?
[00:44] <TJ-> No, don't alter the disk. There's something special in where it has put the GPT primary tables.
[00:45] <daftykins> ah ok so i'll have to image the whole disk >8\/
[00:45] <TJ-> The primary GPT header should be in sector 1-34
[00:45] <TJ-> the secondary is at the very end of the device
[00:47] <daftykins> annoyingly the Linux laptop i'm working from doesn't have enough storage to image up this 500GB disk in its' entirety
[00:47] <daftykins> i could put it on a network drive though
[00:48] <TJ-> What was the original problem?
[00:48] <daftykins> i've got two SATA to USB 3.0 adapters for use with my xbox, today... neither one will show up to the xbox at all
[00:49] <daftykins> plugging the drives into my desktop PC shows the drives are definitely there and talking, just seems like they've had a falling out with the xbox :D
[00:49] <daftykins> i'm tempted to contact their support about it; but i don't imagine getting too far
[00:49] <daftykins> all it is is a storage drive of installed games, so not the end of the world, just means a big re-download
[00:51] <TJ-> correction. GPT primary header is at Sector 1. I was mis-reading
[00:52] <TJ-> so, temporarily altering 0x1FE from 99 CC to 55 AA should be safe.
[00:53] <daftykins> i'm a tad puzzled on the way to attack this then, do you think i should make a full image?
[00:53] <TJ-> OK, going back a bit
[00:54] <TJ-> USB3<>SATA adapters. Are you using those on the PC, too
[00:54] <daftykins> yep
[00:54] <TJ-> Can we rule them out as the problem?
[00:54] <daftykins> i took a second drive and used one of the two to connect it to the xbox and it came up right away
[00:54] <TJ-> it does sound like something specific to the XBox then
[00:54] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:55] <daftykins> just found their FAQ page on diagnosing storage and i've tried all their golden advice already
[00:55] <daftykins> "turn the xbox off and on again"
[00:55] <daftykins> "try another USB port"
[00:55] <daftykins> :D
[00:55] <TJ-> look at the 'new' drive it does see; does it's sector 0 have that same signature 99 CC
[00:55] <daftykins> i'll go grab it and bring it up
[00:55] <TJ-> maybe the fix is to put it back to 55 AA :)
[00:55] <TJ-> no idea what would change that though!
[00:56] <daftykins> unless that program i just used to change between 'xbox' and 'PC' mode killed it
[00:56] <TJ-> maybe it does that to the drives deliberately in order to 'hide' the drives?
[00:56] <daftykins> i think so yeah, stops folk copying the content so freely
[00:57] <daftykins> it'd be a good step to stripping DRM and spreading games
[00:57] <wileee> heh !list
[00:58] <OerHeks> wileee, all torrents are here http://torrents.linuxmint.com/
[00:58] <TJ-> daftykins: Aha. The Primary GPT's CRC is incorrect
[00:59] <TJ-> So yes, I think the tool has altered key bytes and not regenerated the CRC of the header
[00:59] * OerHeks hides behind a glass bacardi-cola
[00:59] <wileee> I knew this was not exactly the stuff in whatever the list holds, the drm strip was the trigger
[00:59] <OerHeks> ?
[00:59] <OerHeks> did you install that budu script thingy ?
[01:00] <daftykins> mint!?
[01:00] * daftykins shakes a fist
[01:00] <daftykins> TJ-: hmm, should i still do a dump of the other disk? maybe less than 1MB this time?
[01:02] <wileee> funny how linux has so many derivatives of something, everyone or some anyway want individuality I suppose
[01:02] <TJ-> daftykins: offset 0x5C in the GPT header should have a 4-byte CRC32. In the image it's 0x0
[01:02] <daftykins> it kind of annoys me, if they could work together it'd be a de-duplication of effort and more work could be done on the fewer :)
[01:02] <TJ-> daftykins: that's offset 0x25C in image file
[01:03] <TJ-> I'd have thought they've jsut moved the CRC32 somewhere else, lets find it :D
[01:03] * TJ- dons his Sherlock Holmes cape and picks up the magnifying glass
[01:03] <wileee> fair assessment is they are more a like than different across the board at least from a armchair view
[01:04] <TJ-> daftykins: Grrr, I'm tired. the CRC32 is at 0x58 (0x258 in the image) and its there! My memory is failing me
[01:06] <daftykins> TJ-: ooh this other one came up showing me the NTFS partition once i let it use the primary table
[01:06] <daftykins> it said the backup was corrupt
[01:06] <daftykins> (parted)
[01:07] <TJ-> daftykins: That's interesting. maybe there is no backup on these drives. use dd to look at the last 34 sectors
[01:07] <daftykins> i've no idea how to do that XD
[01:09] <TJ-> daftykins: I noticed in the primary header, offset 0x28 (0x228) first usable LBA for partitions - is set to 2, when it ought to be 0x22 (34)
[01:09] <daftykins> i've grabbed the first 1MB again on this second disk; http://techblo.gg/stuff/dd_image2
[01:10] <TJ-> daftykins: HAHA! that was it. I changed it to 0x22 at offset 0x228 and the tools recognise the GPT
[01:11] <daftykins> :D
[01:11] <daftykins> i've reconnected the original disk
[01:11] <TJ-> I've had to use 'cgdisk' on the partial disk image because the other tools won't ignore there not being a complete disk
[01:12] <daftykins> can i hexedit the 1MB image then write it back?
[01:12] <TJ-> it'd be easier to just hexedit the disk device directly
[01:12] <TJ-> hexedit /dev/sdX
[01:12] <daftykins> true, just heeded your earlier warning :> nothing to lose here though
[01:13] <TJ-> well, you have an image of that area of the disk so you could just put the original back with dd
[01:13] <daftykins> ok i'm in the hexedit view
[01:13] <TJ-> As long as you take an image of the original first, you're covered (as long as you don't make changes outside the range covered by the backup image). Right now you're working with just the 1st 2 sectors.
[01:14] <TJ-> navigate to offset 0x228
[01:14] <TJ-> you should see 0x02
[01:14] <TJ-> change to 0x22
[01:14] <TJ-> also, make sure you changed the signature at 0x1FE to 55 AA
[01:15] <TJ-> that's the protective MBR signature
[01:16] <daftykins> ok first change done
[01:16] <daftykins> at 0x228
[01:17] <TJ-> tip: "hexedit -s ..." will give you a sector-based display which is often easier to work with when working on disk images
[01:18] <daftykins> so we have 99 at 0x1FE
[01:18] <daftykins> ah yes that made it far easier to see XD
[01:18] <TJ-> so change from 99 CC to 55 AA
[01:19] <daftykins> alrighty, that's all finished
[01:19] <daftykins> parted still claims both GPTs are corrupt
[01:20] <daftykins> shall i take it to the xbox to test anyway?
[01:22] <TJ-> forget parted, use cgdisk
[01:22] <TJ-> when it opens, choose Verify and see the text it reports
[01:23] <TJ-> It may be you've got to edit the Secondary GPT header too
[01:23] <daftykins> CRC invalid for both
[01:23] <TJ-> you've got the same header there that I have :s
[01:23] <daftykins> perhaps i did something wrong? i only made two edits
[01:24] <daftykins> hrmm the disk looks totally different now, standby
[01:24] <daftykins> no, 0x228 definitely has "22"
[01:25] <TJ-> https://iam.tj/projects/misc/cgdisk-sector1.jpg
[01:25] <daftykins> and "FF" in 0x1FE and "AA" in 0x1FF
[01:26] <TJ-> 55, not FF
[01:26] <TJ-> 55 AA
[01:27] <daftykins> oops yeah that was meant to be 55, not sure what my brain did.
[01:27] <TJ-> the reason is they bit patterns help detect flipped bits: 01010101 10101010
[01:27] <TJ-> hmmm, I've not done anything else
[01:27] <daftykins> perhaps i need to reconnect? cached reads maybe?
[01:27] <TJ-> no
[01:29] <TJ-> it looks like the disk is presenting 1024 byte sectors
[01:29] <daftykins> i think both of these are advanced format
[01:30] <daftykins> oh cgdisk's output differed btw
[01:30] <TJ-> the reason for saying that is that the first actual partition-table entry starts in the first sector following the header, and the header sector must be all-zeros from its end (its 92 bytes long) to the end of the sector. In the image here its all zeros until 0x600
[01:32] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13222007/
[01:34] <TJ-> the primary table seems only to use 20 sectors, because 0x2800 looks to be partition/file-system/file data
[01:35] <TJ-> I change 0x22 back to 0x02 and I see that too
[01:36] <daftykins> weird that your edits did a different thing to mine
[01:37] <TJ-> tha value is the starting usable sector (34 decimal, 0x22 ) so if the header is shorter maybe it should be a smaller number
[01:38] <TJ-> so try making the original 0x02 0x16 instead of 0x22
[01:39] <daftykins> same output as the above pastebin, from cgdisk
[01:40] <TJ-> it could also be affected by my loop device using 512 byte sectors, and your using advanced format that looks to be 1KB sectors, in which case the number would be decimal 10, 0x0A
[01:40] <TJ-> however, that doesn't explain why I don't get the CRC32 error when using 0x22 and you do, since the CRC's are the same
[01:41] <TJ-> what are the 4 bytes starting from 0x210 ?
[01:41] <daftykins> should i change the 0x228 "16" to anything else yet?
[01:41] <TJ-> I have 00000210 92 BC A5 63
[01:42] <TJ-> no, lets figure out if we have differences first.
[01:42] <daftykins> yep that matches
[01:42] <TJ-> right, that's the CRC32 of the header itself
[01:42] <TJ-> there's another CRC32 at 0x58 (0x258) of the partitions themselves, and I think that is the one that might be hiting you
[01:43] <daftykins> 36 78 8D B0 is there
[01:43] <TJ-> I do a verify with cgdisk:
[01:43] <TJ-> cgdisk /dev/loop1
[01:43] <TJ-> No problems found. 1981 free sectors (990.5 KiB) available in 1
[01:43] <TJ-> segments, the largest of which is 1981 (990.5 KiB) in size.
[01:43] <TJ-> that's with 0x228 = 0x22
[01:44] <TJ-> 00000250 01 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 36 78 8D B0
[01:44] <daftykins> yep, same :S
[01:45] <TJ-> very strange! I can understand you seeing a problem with the backup table
[01:46] <TJ-> just check sgdisk reports the same as cgdisk (its the same back-end)
[01:46] <TJ-> "sgdisk --verify /dev/sdX"
[01:47] <daftykins> yep - with 16 in place at 0x228 still
[01:49] <TJ-> put 0x22 there and try again
[01:49] <TJ-> here's additional stuff I see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13222375/
[01:49] <daftykins> no change, both still with a bad CRC
[01:50] <TJ-> hmmm, makes no sense. Try doing the same changes and tests on (a copy of) that file you sent me.
[01:50] <TJ-> it seems like when addressing the hardware something to do with translation is changing things
[01:51] <daftykins> will i need to use loop mounting?
[01:52] <TJ-> yes "losetup /dev/loop1 /path/to/file"
[01:52] <TJ-> then "sgdisk --verify /dev/loop1" and "hexedit -s /dev/loop1"
[01:54] <daftykins> identical result to yours after making the two edits :(
[01:54] <daftykins> sgdisk reads it fine
[01:54] <TJ-> so it's something to do with the advanced format disk
[01:54] <TJ-> This is where GPT breaks, so its interesting
[01:56] <daftykins> i wonder if the xbox has any preference between AF or non
[01:56] <daftykins> you'd have thought not, because it's bound to encounter both these days
[01:56] <TJ-> the header is supposed to be in LBA1 of the disk. So depending on the sector size of the disk that could be 512, 1024, or 4096 bytes into the disk. This image has it at 512 bytes, which suggests the original controller uses 512 byte logical sectors. If Linux is using a different logical sector size that might explain it
[01:57] <daftykins> i'm used to seeing the physical and logical sector size in parted's output, but we're not going to see that without a readable GPT i guess
[01:58] <daftykins> maybe i need to take this drive out of its' enclosure and put it directly into a Linux PC tomorrow - that might change something?
[01:58] <TJ-> hmmm, not sure. What does this report?
[01:58] <TJ-> sgdisk --print /dev/sda
[01:58] <TJ-> Disk /dev/sda: 976773168 sectors, 465.8 GiB
[01:58] <TJ-> Logical sector size: 512 bytes
[01:58] <TJ-> well, change /dev/sda obviously, for the real sdX of the disk
[01:58] <TJ-> see what the Logical sector size reports
[01:59] <daftykins> 512 bytes
[01:59] <TJ-> ok, not that either!
[01:59] <daftykins> i'll need to pop it out to double check if it was an AF drive
[02:00] <daftykins> yep definitely has the AF logo
[02:02] <TJ-> what does "cat /sys/block/<sdX>/device/model" report?
[02:02] <daftykins> FE2005 - that'll be the model of the inateck enclosure i bought that it's in right now
[02:03] <daftykins> it uses a jmicron UASP capable USB 3.0 controller
[02:05] <TJ-> OK, so maybe its the translation causing the issue
[02:06] <TJ-> Despite the warning, I wonder if the disk will be 'seen' if you return it to the xbox
[02:06] * daftykins pops it downstairs
[02:08] <daftykins> it noticed it this time, but it offered to format it instead of just use it
[02:08] <daftykins> so even it knows something is wrong
[02:09] <daftykins> perhaps all this work has been invalidated by the Windows program i ran first :(
[02:09] <daftykins> but i did tell it to switch it back, so any process should have been reversed
[02:10] <TJ-> you put in a new disk earlier, and it formatted it? maybe we should look at the header that created?
[02:11] <daftykins> sure
[02:11] <daftykins> did you happen to see the second 1MB image i posted? http://techblo.gg/stuff/dd_image2
[02:11] <daftykins> that's the working one
[02:11] <TJ-> i must have missed it, let me look
[02:14] <daftykins> that one is also advanced format, *but* used the other bridge chip to access it
[02:14] <TJ-> changing the MBR signature to 55 AA fixes that one, it just complains about missing baclkup GPT.
[02:14] <TJ-> 0x226 = 0x04
[02:14] <daftykins> parted was able to see the NTFS partition on that one as-is
[02:15] <daftykins> but tools wouldn't mount it, naturally
[02:15] <daftykins> i guess the kernel reads the primary only
[02:20] <TJ-> these are weird; Trust MS to be non-standard
[02:20] <daftykins> :D
[02:21] <daftykins> well i think they want to stop people readily reading and copying installed content
[02:23] <TJ-> this is your 2nd, good, disk image: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13222960/
[02:25] <daftykins> hmm
[02:25] <TJ-> hexedit shows that Parition GUID at 0x600 (it's byte-reversed as little-endian)
[02:25] <TJ-> notce "First sector: 4"
[02:25] <daftykins> mmhmm
[02:25] <TJ-> so the GPT header is very minimal, not storing the usual 128 entries (34 sectors)
[02:25] <daftykins> i could read the first disk again with the same bridge chip, see if it was a quirk?
[02:26] <TJ-> so that explains something about the CRC32 / first LBA 0x02/0x22 changes. That makes me think that the 0x228 on the faulty disk should be 0x04
[02:28] <daftykins> valid backup! :D
[02:28] <TJ-> did you fix it?
[02:29] <daftykins> that's weird, cgdisk still errors to both tables
[02:29] <daftykins> sgdisk started to regenerate the main header from the backup
[02:29] <daftykins> maybe i should go try the xbox again
[02:30] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13223057
[02:31] <daftykins> oh it doesn't spot the microsoft basic data part, so maybe it's not happy still
[02:32] <TJ-> i just figured out using sgdisk here re-write the GPT header without warning when using --verify, so BE CAREFUL
[02:33] <daftykins> should i run sgdisk on the disk with --verify?
[02:34] <daftykins> your pastebin was very different, stating "First sector: 4 (at 2.0 KiB)" whilst mine "First usable sector is 2,"
[02:40] <TJ-> right, LBA '2' suggests the logical sector size is 1024
[02:40] <TJ-> I'm running 'sgdisk' always with --pretend (-P) so it only does changes in-memory
[02:41] <daftykins> ah har
[02:41] <daftykins> i gave it another check on the xbox, naturally it tried to offer to format it again
[02:43] <daftykins> -!- daftykins changed the topic of #ubuntu-love to: What is love? Baby don't hurt me... don't hurt me... no
[02:43] <daftykins> more.
[02:43] <daftykins> curious channel :)
[02:45] <wileee> sounds more like #ubuntu-tweens
[02:45] <wileee> ;)
[02:45] <daftykins> :D
[02:46] <wileee> where for where art though ubuntu mod
[02:46] <wileee> thou*
[02:47] <daftykins> TJ-: crikey look at the time :S i think this one deserves a nights sleep
[02:56] * daftykins wonders if TJ- has been dragged away by the hounds
[02:56] <TJ-> yeah
[02:56] <TJ-> I just tried testdisk; even it can't deal with the non-standard GPT header with only 1 partition entry it assumes 34 sectors
[02:57] <daftykins> ouch!
[02:57] <daftykins> well, i could just give up and wipe it i guess
[02:57] <TJ-> this reminds me of all the things that made me walk away from Microsoft software
[02:57] <TJ-> You could try using testdisk to scan the disk and suggest a partition table for use on Linux at least
[02:58] <daftykins> the good news is the xbox gets a new OS on Thursday, so maybe it'll be all change :D
[02:58] <TJ-> then you could backup files to another device, then let the xbox reformat it correctly, change those signature bytes so Linux can see it, and copy the files back
[02:59] <daftykins> hmm that could work!
[02:59] <daftykins> i think that'll have to be a task for tomorrow though
[03:02] <TJ-> You don't need the partition table if you mount the filesystem directly using "losetup --offset
[03:03] <TJ-> "losetup --offset 2048 /dev/loop5 /dev/sdX" then "blkid /dev/loop5" might reveal an NTFS file-system
[03:03] * daftykins quickly boots back up
[03:03] <TJ-> I don't have enough of the data here to test that correctly. testdisk cold also discover the NTFS file-system
[03:04] <TJ-> This all assumes the file-system/header/metadata isn't somehow 'changed' like the GPT
[03:04] <daftykins> i could try emailing the guy that wrote the program that was meant to unlock it
[03:04] <TJ-> there's certainly an NTFS header starting at 2048 (0x800)
[03:05] <TJ-> might be a good idea, and indicate it somehow broke it
[03:06] <daftykins> ok i ran the losetup, weirdly parted does nothing with the device
[03:07] <TJ-> no, it's a pure file-system now, no PT
[03:07] <TJ-> do "blkid /dev/loop5"
[03:07] <daftykins> oh wow that's got the correct name i gave it on the xbox :)
[03:07] <TJ-> we're trying to side-step the PT and work on the file-system directly
[03:08] <daftykins> yep ntfs spotted
[03:08] <TJ-> right: "mkdir -p /mnt/xbox; mount /dev/loop5 /mnt/xbox"
[03:08] <daftykins> yep content successfully visible!
[03:08] <daftykins> :D
[03:09] <TJ-> YAY!
[03:09] <daftykins> so perhaps as you said, backup the disk... let the xbox convert it... then compare the headers at the start and end of the disk?
[03:09] <TJ-> OK, so you can backup correctly now, and then let the Xbox re-format te device, bring it back to Linux, id where the file-system is again, losetup+mount that empty new FS and copy the files back
[03:10] <TJ-> I think the trick now is to IGNORE the partition table and work on the file-system(s) directly
[03:10] <daftykins> ah yes, that'd be a lot less work
[03:10] <TJ-> no point fighting it when the PT is not needed to work with the files
[03:10] <daftykins> this info is highly useful to point out to xbox owners how to access the data direct
[03:11] <TJ-> I've been doing this stuff for so long I generally do avoid PTs, but for some reason with only having these disk images from the 1st 1MB I got fixated on trying to correct the PT
[03:12] <daftykins> hehe :D perhaps i should've offered SSH access early on :>
[03:12] <TJ-> I could write a simple C program for you that does that
[03:12] <daftykins> would that only be for use on a Linux host?
[03:13] <TJ-> It'd be source code, so potentially usable on any POSIX host.
[03:13] <TJ-> it would't work on Windows; but I was on about being able to natively mount an XBox disk on Linux without having to fiddle with it
[03:13] <daftykins> ah har, could be pretty handy - though i'm certainly not adverse to the losetup method
[03:13] <daftykins> ouch 227GB i've got on there :D
[03:14] <TJ-> the thing is, to do that, you've got to identify the correct offset, and that could change
[03:14] <daftykins> mmm, i wonder if they'd be that clever
[03:14] <TJ-> I mean due to advanced format disks vs 'traditional' - sector sizes make translation a requirement to get it correct for all drives
[03:15] <daftykins> i think there'd definitely be many folks that would appreciate a tool like that :)
[03:15] <daftykins> i think it's our bedtime for sure though :D
[03:16] <TJ-> I also, thinking about it, think the MS programmers got their GPT implementation wrong! Those offsets at 0x28 and 0x48 should be Logical Block Address offsets, whatever the LBA sector size is, but I *think* the programmers have assumed an LBA is ALWAYS 512 bytes
[03:16] <TJ-> That's explain why the numbers didn't match the geometry
[03:16] <daftykins> oooh this is interesting, remember that 'nonic' string that showed up? there's a file on this FS called 'LastConsole' that contains a few characters then 'nonic'
[03:16] <daftykins> hehehe, so could be some other values to try?
[03:18] <TJ-> nonic is actually part of the DISK GUID in the GPT header
[03:18] <daftykins> ooh
[03:19] <TJ-> at offset 0x38 to 0x47
[03:19] <daftykins> hehe i've not got the space on this laptop to copy the content over either
[03:19] <TJ-> Well, at least you have access to it. Worry about that tomorrow
[03:19] <TJ-> (later today!)
[03:19] <daftykins> indeed :D
[03:20] <daftykins> big games these days, just one is 55GB
[03:20] <TJ-> most of it being texture data
[03:20] <daftykins> mmm
[03:20] <daftykins> well thanks muchly for that sir, it is hugely appreciated :)
[03:21] <TJ-> you're welcome
[03:21] <daftykins> very interesting seeing MS' methods reverse engineered
[03:22] <daftykins> ooh my SSD has enough space come to think of it ^_^
[03:23] <TJ-> can't you connect the other, GOOD, empty Xbox drive to the PC too, and copy from one to the other?
[03:24] <daftykins> could do, i was using xubuntu on a USB 2.0 only drive - so i've just booted ubuntu from a flash drive on my sandybridge laptop which has a USB 3.0 port
[03:24] <daftykins> this should be extremely zippy :)
[03:25] <TJ-> right, as long as the NTFS doesn't do something special too. I'd recommend writing just a few test files to the empty drive then testing it on the Xbox before going ahead with a full clone
[03:25] <TJ-> that of course assumes the Xbox lets you browse the file-system
[03:25] <daftykins> hmm i unmounted the mountpoint prior to shutdown but didn't disconnect the loop device, just issued a shutdown
[03:26] <daftykins> the NTFS partition has this time mounted read only
[03:26] <daftykins> oh think i used the wrong disk, haha
[03:26] <TJ-> Careful!!
[03:27] <TJ-> I've got to go clear spiders from a CCTV camera; they're setting off the motion detector continuously!
[03:27] <daftykins> erk! ok :)
[03:30] <daftykins> now there's a nice USB 3.0 UASP capable enclosure; 98.4MB/sec copying to my laptop's SSD from the 500GB laptop 2.5"
[04:14] <daftykins> yay all copied, why did i stay up for that o0
[04:17] <TJ-> :D
[04:17] <daftykins> alrighty i could go make the xbox format this for use now, then copy it back on (same disk)
[04:18] <daftykins> or i could just sleep since it's 4am >8\
[04:18] <TJ-> I forgot to refit the back-plate in the freezer earlier, because still testing the hot-wire, and just realised that stops the fan from being able to force the air up into the fridge! So, waiting up a bit longer to ensure the fridge cools :)
[04:18] <TJ-> yeah, I'm thinking of staying up all day, get ultra-tired and have a decent early night
[04:18] <daftykins> i only made it 'til 4am the last time XD
[04:19] <daftykins> er 4pm
[04:21] <TJ-> i generally find if I started flagging, go for a run and a shower after wakes me up
[04:22] <daftykins> TJ-: what would be interesting to see now from the formatted drive?
[04:22] <daftykins> another 1MB dd grab?
[04:24] <daftykins> same 2048 offset works :)
[04:25] <daftykins> ouch far slower write speed naturally
[04:26] <daftykins> 2hrs :(
[04:28] <TJ-> I suspect the header of the formatted drive will be the same as the 'spare' you used earlier.
[04:29] <daftykins> lets give it a go!
[04:29] <daftykins> could i just diff the two files?
[04:29] <TJ-> I've been getting annoyed by deficiencies in the GPT tooling we have for some time; I think I'm going to write a tool that can deal with this kind of stuff
[04:29] <TJ-> No, CRCs and drive GUID will be different
[04:29] <TJ-> you have to compare field-to-field
[04:30] <daftykins> yee-ouch! so no point me showing you this one? :)
[04:30] <TJ-> being able to tell a GPT tool only-use primary/backup table; ignore CRC errors, etc, etc
[04:31] <TJ-> Not really, no, I've got the idea of what is going on there.
[04:31] <daftykins> ouch it's gone down to 23MB/sec write :(
[04:31] <daftykins> 3hrs it wants now to write that 243GB!
[04:31] <TJ-> I've not had many drives with GPT have serious errors so far, so not had to hack too much.
[04:32] <wileee> you're feeling sleepy
[04:32] <daftykins> how did you know :o
[04:32] <wileee> ;)
[04:32] <TJ-> that's still a good transfer rate
[04:32] <TJ-> you're just too spoilt!
[04:32] <daftykins> hehehe
[04:32] <TJ-> serves you right for buying such large games :D
[04:32] <daftykins> yeah i love my SSDs, gigabit LAN and so forth
[04:33] <TJ-> I wish there was a lappy that has a fibre port not copper
[04:33] <daftykins> they're quite annoying with the "Xbox One"; it has an internal mechanical 500GB which they don't let you upgrade =|
[04:33] <daftykins> these USB 3.0 enclosures are the only way to add storage
[04:34] <daftykins> i hope there's nothing unique in these files...
[04:49] <daftykins> i think nautilus really sucks for file copy because it's filled the RAM, i see 20% CPU usage on a dual core 2nd gen i5 from mount.ntfs and 14% CPU from usb-storage
[05:03] <TJ-> it uses as much free space as possible to cache
[05:03] <TJ-> same as us manually using 'dd bs=1G ...'
[05:19] <TJ-> I've just tried booting this embedded system with plopkexec from a USB FDD. syslinux boots, plop starts then crashes/hangs the PC with the keyboard lights flashing!
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> again
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/steam-machine-lunch-sale-brings-huge-discounts-for-45-steamos-and-linux-games-496007.shtml
[09:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:28] <lotus|xenial> good morning guys
[10:43] <EriC^^> morning lotus|xenial
[10:43] <lotus|xenial> hey EriC^^
[10:43] <lotus|xenial> EriC^^: hows the movienight been :p
[10:43] <EriC^^> good good
[10:44] <lotus|xenial> :p
[11:39] <lordievader> Puppet apply --noop is quite nice :D
[12:16] <lotus|xenial> afternoon cfhowlett and Ben64
[12:16] <Ben64> hello
[12:16] <cfhowlett> lotus|xenial, greetings
[12:24] <lotus|xenial> once upon a time there was a penguin...
[12:24] <cfhowlett> keep it clean!
[12:25] <lotus|xenial> haha
[12:38] <lotus|xenial> his name was tux and loved downhill snowraces...
[12:39] <cfhowlett> ... his best friend was gnu
[12:39] <lotus|xenial> hahaha
[12:40] <lotus|xenial> cfhowlett: i think we ivented a new type of bedtime storybooks here we can earn big $$$
[13:07] <lotus|xenial> !find nvidia-cuda
[13:10] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[13:13] <lotus|xenial> hi pauljw :p
[13:29] <pauljw> brb
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:11] <lotus|xenial> hey BluesKaj
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Hi lotus|xenial
[14:19] <lotus|xenial> BluesKaj: all working fine here on xenial
[14:20] <BluesKaj> good to hear lotus|xenial, had a few graphics glitches yesterday after a small upgrade , but all seems to be fine now on Xenial
[14:21] <lotus|xenial> BluesKaj: didnt you say, you went back to trusty yesterday?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> and plsama 5.4.2
[14:22] <BluesKaj> I do so occasionally when I get fed up
[14:23] <lotus|xenial> ok
[14:23] <BluesKaj> I have it on another partition
[14:23] <lotus|xenial> ah ic
[14:42] <lotus|xenial> movietime
[14:42] <lotus|xenial> cheers guys
[21:36] <daftykins> TJ-: o/ huzzah at a working xbox HDD today :) the xbox looked content over before launching it with a displayed message of "hangon, we're just checking..." then all worked just fine \o/
[21:36] <OerHeks> jippy
[21:36] <daftykins> many thanks for that time once again :) hope it wasn't what ruined your sleep schedule once again!
[21:52] <TJ-> daftykins: Thank goodness!
[21:53] <TJ-> haha no, I've had a 'fun' afternoon reverse-engineering a fridge/freezer microcontroller :)
[21:53] <daftykins> ah was that one or two components not enough to sort it out?
[21:53] <wileee> TJ-, Let me know if you get a thaw on those steaks. ;)
[21:55] <daftykins> haha i'm with wileee on this one - we're ready and waiting if the apple pie needs to be taken care of
[21:55] <daftykins> for the sake of hygiene y'know
[21:55] <wileee> ohh yeah mmmm the apple pies
[21:55] <TJ-> daftykins: looks like there's some SMD resistors that connect the MC output ports to the triacs, and at least 1 is showing 49K instead of 390 Ohms
[21:56] <daftykins> ooh, i sense someone has had their Sherlock hat on
[21:56] <TJ-> I left a freezer box on the floor full of pies and turned round to find Pepper licking the ice off :)
[21:57] <TJ-> daftykins: so I may have fried some of the outputs of the MC, worst-case.
[21:57] <TJ-> daftykins: right now it only looks like the evaporator fan control is not operating correctly, but it could be affecting the 2 heaters too. Hard to get it into a test mode on the bench
[21:57] <wileee> heh, dogs and cats gotta watch em, I have an 18 lb tom with razor claws
[21:58] <TJ-> I've hot-wired the fan though, so its working properly in keeping the fridge supplied with cold air
[21:58] <TJ-> wileee: Ouch!
[21:59] <wileee> my boss at a laundromat is a journeyman electrician, he fixes all of them, some have very simple circut board as well I think
[21:59] <daftykins> TJ-: i take it with white goods, the circuit diagrams aren't exactly freely shared by the manufacturers, even if a model is discontinued? :)
[22:00] <TJ-> Correct, they're not. I have the service manual but there's no PCB circuit diagram, only wiring
[22:00] <TJ-> But I can reverse it from the PCB, it's not complicated
[22:02] <TJ-> I held the hot air nozzle a little too long in one place at 400C earlier... and it pinged some solder spots around the room. Thought a component had blown again :D
[22:03] <TJ-> I think I'm going to hibernate for 3 months... until this unlucky streak is over
[22:04] <wileee> you're smart enough to do it and recognize mistakes, you would be whom I hire if needed, and trust
[22:04] * TJ- inspects the trail of 'spares' and grins :D
[22:05] <wileee> lol
[22:05] <TJ-> well, on the plus side I did repair the blown SSD so it's not all bad. Just need to not blow things up in the first place!
[22:08] <wileee> I've had a SSD lockup a couple of times was a wait time is all with it pulled out and put in a container and powered up for a auto check, lucky to have found that info in my case.
[22:10] <daftykins> sometimes you get quirky cables or SSD firmwares i find
[22:10] <wileee> https://crucial.i.lithium.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/Why-did-my-SSD-quot-disappear-quot-from-my-system/ta-p/65215 might be common knowledge not sure really
[22:11] <wileee> the power cycle was what I did out of the computer
[22:13] <wileee> In the end I rarely ask for help, I'm like some who come here, I'm in a hurry to fix and here to proud to ask, lol.
[22:14] <daftykins> :D
[22:15] <wileee> your guys help has always been a great place to lurk and learn I will say though, the channel provides a never ending slam on issues so common you can't forget the fixs at times.
[22:21] <TJ-> i've been trying to debug why plopkexec locks up this embedded system as soon as it tries to draw its screen. Tried to build it from source with additional debugging, but the damned kernel image comes out about 3.5MB instead of 1.3M so it won't fit on the floppy
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-quality
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[07:24] <dkessel> good morning
[13:54] <balloons> morning
[14:28] <flocculant> balloons: welcome back :)
[14:28] <balloons> hey hey flocculant
[14:31] <flocculant> balloons: anything you know that I don't about flavour image tests?
[17:39] <balloons> flocculant, not at the moment
[17:39] <balloons> sorry, I was busy this morning finishing up the application to GCI
[17:40] <flocculant> that's ok I guessed you were off being a bee somewhere :)
[17:46] <flocculant> balloons: hope that goes ok btw
[17:49] <balloons> flocculant, me too! We have plenty of tasks for the students to work on
[17:49] <balloons> in quality too
[17:50] <balloons> i included things like getting that qatracker design implemented, writing manual tests, etc
[17:51] <flocculant> tracker design?
[17:52] <flocculant> dude you're not thinking of changing it I hope :(
[17:53] <balloons> just an example of tasks big to small
[17:54] <flocculant> fixing all the tracker bugs would be \o/ for sure :)
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"authors": [
"balloons",
"dkessel",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-quality"
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:01] <RivDo> 有人用过winetricks么？
[00:01] <RivDo> 我装的东西找不到:'(
[00:59] <Niac> 早安 今天你剁手了吗
[01:55] <hceasy> 没.
[02:11] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 家务事 : 甲:不知你买了电脑后还能否做些家务?乙:很少。顶多在晚饭前将碗筷当图标排列一下,饭后清理桌面,偶尔也要清空一下回收站。
[02:26] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • 运行时才会出现的值 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473817 大家好 Ubuntu是否有这样一个值？ 只有在系统启动时才会出现，当系统关闭是就无法获取。 而且这个值系统每次启动都是一样的，不会改变。 zz: jampg — 2015-11-11 9:52
[02:28] <^k^> ooOO_OOoo: 拜RH大中华区首席测试官
[02:33] <onlylove1> http://blog.jobbole.com/94148/
[02:33] <ubrl> onlylove1: ⇪ 不要自称是程序员，我十多年的 IT 职场总结 - 博客 - 伯乐在线
[02:33] <onlylove1> 说到底，职场就是人和人之间的忽悠和谈判
[02:33] <onlylove1> 所以谈判专家可以拿到更多钱
[02:39] <tomhardy> 您好我在使用ubuntu 15.04拼音，根本不好用，请问你们都用什么输入法啊
[02:39] <tomhardy> 我一般都用sogou
[02:39] <tomhardy> 你们有什么建议吗
[02:44] <onlylove> 没什么建议，linux基本不用中文
[02:45] <tomhardy> but if i have too?
[02:45] <onlylove> 用windows去
[02:46] <onlylove> windows下面我还没找到好用的中文输入法呢
[02:47] <onlylove> windows下面没啥好用的输入法，一样用的挺好，linux下面没用，就抱怨，谁管的毛病
[02:48] <onlylove> 你要是抱怨linux下面的搜狗不好用，windows下面用过智能abc再来说
[02:52] <tomhardy> ok
[02:52] <onlylove> 顺便问下你windows下面用啥，好用么
[02:53] <tomhardy> 问题是，我们开发的软件，该软件必须在linux开发
[02:54] <tomhardy> 我现在有sogou :D
[02:54] <onlylove1> 必须在linux下面开发？还必须用中文？这样的软件除了中文输入法，还有别的？
[03:27] <yurakucho> cherrot: app store总是登录失败啊 啥情况哦
[03:28] <cherrot> yurakucho, 我是直连的啊 只是比较慢而已 不过我几乎没有软件是在app store里装的
[03:28] <cherrot> yurakucho, 都是 brew cask
[03:28] <yurakucho> cherrot: wechat不在cask里
[03:30] <yurakucho> cherrot: 靠, 感觉得买一个manico, osx太难用了!
[03:30] <cherrot> yurakucho, 哦对 这个还是要从app store的 你试试在网络连接上挂个全局代理吧
[03:30] <cherrot> yurakucho, 把你的mac扔给我吧
[03:31] <cherrot> yurakucho, 我会帮你照顾好
[03:31] <yurakucho> cherrot: review billing address的时候
[03:31] <yurakucho> cherrot: 报错 Your request is temporarily unable to be processed.
[03:31] <cherrot> 手机彻底屏碎 谁有测试机可以支援一个月。。
[03:31] <yurakucho> cherrot: 15"顶配, 有两万么?
[03:31] <cherrot> 奇怪 你地区选的不是china？
[03:33] <cherrot> yurakucho, 接近2w
[03:33] <yurakucho> cherrot: 刚开始注册写的美国, 后来改成中国地址了 不行?
[03:35] <onlylove1> 中国移动开始不要脸了，通知实名制只有重复收听和挂机，而且是自动录音
[03:35] <yurakucho> 美国账号 中国账单地址?
[03:36] <wbchn> 中移动怎么能电话实名制？有省市限制么
[03:36] <onlylove_> cherrot: JD赶紧下单一个便宜的
[03:37] <onlylove1> 我就是觉得每天收到的保险，发票，美女上门这些信息够我招呼一阵子的，这号码要是实名，我还真实名不起
[03:37] <cherrot> yurakucho, 直接炮轰apple客服 会有专员联系你的
[03:38] <cherrot> yurakucho, 这种非技术问题懒得搞 当时我初始化app store的时候也是一堆坑
[03:41] <asdf2> 在下debian
[03:43] <wbchn> debian 和 centos 哪个做桌面系统更容易些？
[03:44] <onlylove1> windows容易些
[03:45] <wbchn> onlylove1: 这一年半了没怎么用过windows
[03:45] <wbchn> ubuntu 总觉得比较卡，换了gnome好一些，还是达不到想要的效果
[03:46] <onlylove1> ubuntu不是比较卡吧……
[03:46] <asdf2> 用的稳定版，觉得不怎么卡
[03:47] <wbchn> 14.04.3 是稳定版，4G内存台式机赶不上旁边姑娘那win7
[03:48] <wbchn> chrome开十几个还行，再多了假死
[03:53] <CyrusYzGTt> chrome 越来越差。 连 opera-stable 也差le
[03:57] <wbchn> CyrusYzGTt: 只要占资源少，渲染兼容性好就够了
[03:57] <CyrusYzGTt> wbchn§ 现在只用 iceweasel
[03:58] <asdf2> 我在一u盘装个ubuntu在外临时用
[03:59] <wbchn> CyrusYzGTt: firefox作为第二个浏览器，一般开俩
[03:59] <CyrusYzGTt> wbchn§ 就这样，睡觉
[04:36] <tryit> wbchn, debian+xfce4
[04:44] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: http://xiaohua.zol.com.cn/detail1/35634.html 爆笑:有些人实在是太损了 : 女朋友至今没有耳洞,今日问我要不要去打?我说:你不是怕疼不打么?她说:我室友说了,不打耳洞的话,结婚的时候少件首饰！！
[04:45] * yurakucho 于是删掉了Apple ID
[05:07] <nyfair> 好无聊好无聊
[05:07] <nyfair> 快推荐我点东西买
[05:07] <onlylove> yurakucho: 苦海无涯回头是岸
[05:08] <nyfair> 以前一直听人说什么blabla德国人做事严禁
[05:08] <onlylove> nyfair: http://pic.xoyo.com/bbs/forum/201511/11/112524vqjvqu6fhoj5lwz1.png
[05:08] <ubrl> onlylove: ⇪ image/png
[05:08] <onlylove> nyfair: 德国人做事不是严谨，是古板
[05:08] <nyfair> 今天见识到了，他妈的就是德国傻逼脑子单线程而已
[05:09] <onlylove> nyfair: 严谨和古板两回事
[05:10] <nyfair> onlylove: 支那国也都是傻逼
[05:11] <onlylove> nyfair: 你这样就把自己也绕进去了
[05:11] <nyfair> onlylove: 我从来没说过自己不是傻逼
[05:17] <onlylove> 看着那一堆奇怪文字的机器，提不起兴趣……oracle client到底什么鬼
[05:25] <nyfair> 傻逼巨硬居然收回承诺的onedrive空间，g婊服务再烂都没做过这种破事啊
[05:25] <nyfair> 还好我不用onedrive
[05:26] <nyfair> 网盘这东西，宁可相信毒菜国家的，也不用西方的
[05:26] <nyfair> 最早就是迷信西方，结果megaupload被fbi直接关了
[05:27] <onlylove1> nyfair: 只要是公司的，就有可能被关掉
[05:28] <onlylove1> nyfair: 国内也不例外
[05:28] <wbchn> 国内阿里旗下酷盘已停了
[05:28] <wbchn> sina爱共享停的更早
[05:29] <nyfair> 酷盘至少给你时间下载回来，megaupload当年可是直接关站的
[05:29] <wbchn> 嗯，一个是下线，一个是关站，sina 爱共享也是直接关
[05:30] <nyfair> 爱共享算哪门子网盘
[05:30] <vickycq> 爱问共享转移到微盘了
[05:30] <wbchn> 也存了不少资料
[05:30] <vickycq> 部分
[05:30] <wbchn> vickycq: 里面文件怎么转过去？
[05:30] <nyfair> 腾讯微云早死了，但是东西现在还能下载
[05:31] <vickycq> 应该是自动存到了微盘中专门的文件夹
[05:31] <onlylove1> 别吵了，假设哪天度娘被郭嘉拔网线了，你们有办法？
[05:31] <vickycq> 反正我的是这样的啊
[05:33] <onlylove1> 我把移动客服添加到黑名单了
[05:33] <wbchn> 赶紧把度娘网线拔了吧，天天别的网站给我推各种百度推广
[05:34] <onlylove1> 他要是拔了，然后度娘网盘里面的东西来不及下载呢
[05:34] <wbchn> 反正也被净网把视频改了，下载下来何用
[05:35] <onlylove1> 开玩笑，我里面一堆PDF文件
[05:35] <onlylove1> 虽然都是折纸什么的
[05:35] <wbchn> 。。。
[05:36] <onlylove1> 当时看他们折川崎玫瑰，去搜了点资料而已
[05:37] <wbchn> 《越狱》中Michael送给Sara的那个动人的纸玫瑰，其实本名叫做川崎玫瑰 ?
[05:38] <onlylove1> 纸玫瑰很多种，川崎是最简单的那个
[05:38] <wbchn> 有预约到 中国航天普通纪念币 的吗
[05:38] <onlylove1> 约那东西作甚，怪沉的
[05:39] <wbchn> 有钞啊，刚约了10张，发现是100一张的，也不发纪念币
[05:39] <wbchn> 没有纪念币，只有纪念钞了
[05:39] <nyfair> 整滑坡悖论有意思，那种东西国外就能让你直接下了？
[05:39] <onlylove1> 钞就更没价值了，还不如钢镚
[05:39] <nyfair> 还不是得打个rar包
[05:40] <nyfair> 度婊盘你打个包一样不会被净
[05:40] <onlylove1> 钢镚不爽了还可以拿来砸人
[05:40] <wbchn> 就是
[05:41] <wbchn> nyfair: 度娘是转存的，要是上传那必须打包
[05:41] <wbchn> nyfair: 酷盘是我试过所有的网盘里面唯一一个差量上传的，其他都是全量上传，哪怕你只改过一个字节
[05:42] <nyfair> wbchn: 以前有个，坚果铺子
[05:43] <nyfair> wbchn: 现在还在，但是没市场了
[05:43] <nyfair> wbchn: 这种功能只对码农有意义吧
[05:43] <wbchn> nyfair: 现在还有哪个呢？我一般是弄个加密硬盘镜像放文件，然后上传到网盘
[05:43] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[05:46] <wbchn> nyfair: 是这个加密 TrueCrypt，号称FBI也没办法解的，而且可以设置两层加密密码
[05:48] <nyfair> http://www.zhihu.com/question/23954646
[05:48] <ubrl> nyfair: ⇪ TrueCrypt 为什么突然宣布不安全了？ - 加密 - 知乎
[05:51] <wbchn> 我也在看呢，从去年不用windows后一直用了 http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/58940/is-truecrypt-not-secure-now-and-should-i-stop-using-it
[05:51] <ubrl> wbchn: ⇪ Is TrueCrypt not secure now and should I stop using it? - Information Security Stack Exchange
[05:53] <onlylove1> 因为被招安了，或者发现自己的密钥被偷了或者发现自己的代码被种后门了，就像freeBSD那样
[05:54] <nyfair> 不是openbsd么，freebsd也有cia后门？
[05:54] <nyfair> 还是fbi后门？
[05:56] <onlylove1> 我记错了？反正有个倒霉的BSD
[05:57] <onlylove1> 好几年才被发现
[05:59] <onlylove1> 应该是openbsd
[06:01] <onlylove1> 可惜BSD协议和gpl不兼容，而且BSD的发展也不如linux
[06:02] <onlylove1> 整的现在BSD上的apache httpd还是1.3
[06:03] <nyfair> 然而自从unity3d对独立游戏免费后，各种开源游戏引擎都死了
[06:04] <nyfair> 以前什么ogre，irricht，现在没人用了
[06:04] <nyfair> 要么自己写，要么就rpg maker,unity3d
[06:06] <onlylove1> 突然想unreal什么时候也不要钱
[06:07] <huntxu> nyfair: 拜牛牛
[06:07] <huntxu> onlylove1: 拜只愛
[06:08] <^k^> huntxu: ok nyfair => 拜牛牛
[06:08] <^k^> huntxu: ok onlylove1 => 拜只愛
[06:08] <huntxu> ^k^: 你能不能聰明一點
[06:09] <onlylove1> huntxu: 拜糊涂许
[06:09] <onlylove1> ^k^: 拜-
[06:09] <onlylove1> 我得看看kk的源码去，这整天拜实在消受不起
[06:10] <huntxu> ^k^: 拜clear
[06:10] <huntxu> ^k^: 拜-
[06:10] <huntxu> 是這樣麽
[06:10] <lainme> nyfair: megaupload那人又开了mega
[06:12] <hceasy> lainme: 拜才女
[06:13] <^k^> hceasy: ok lainme => 拜才女
[06:13] <hceasy> 哈哈.
[06:13] <onlylove> huntxu: http://git.oschina.net/sevkme/kk-irc-bot
[06:13] <ubrl> onlylove: ⇪ sevk / kk-irc-bot - Git@OSC - OSChina.Net
[06:13] <onlylove> hceasy: 蓝莓本来就是才女，不亏
[06:14] <hceasy> onlylove: 我没说亏.
[06:16] <onlylove_> sigh，这网
[06:17] <hceasy> onlylove: 昨晚玩战地 掉的想哭.. 也不知道多少人在剁手
[06:20] <onlylove__> hceasy: 单机党表示无压力
[06:20] <hceasy> onlylove__: 你玩什么游戏.
[06:20] <onlylove__> hceasy: DOA5
[06:20] <onlylove1> ^k^: 拜clear
[06:20] <onlylove1> ^k^: 拜del
[06:20] <hceasy> onlylove__: 这个我有免费版的..
[06:21] <onlylove1> 总该有个好用的
[06:21] <onlylove__> hceasy: 然后呢
[06:21] <hceasy> onlylove__: 好多人物没解锁 我媳妇爱玩这个格斗游戏.
[06:21] <onlylove__> hceasy: 要是我和你说我这个是盗版的last around
[06:22] <hceasy> onlylove__: 哦... 我那个是PS plus + 送的.
[06:22] <onlylove__> hceasy: 四公主？
[06:22] <hceasy> onlylove__: 恩
[06:24] <onlylove> hceasy: 表示三公主还能坚持一阵子
[06:25] <nyfair> lainme: mega在新加坡，而且megaupload的文件是永久丢失了
[06:25] <nyfair> onlylove: 老司机来联机doa5
[06:26] <onlylove> nyfair: 不敢联机好么，拜托
[06:26] <onlylove> nyfair: 等我买正版
[06:27] <onlylove> nyfair: 2512的三公主，自制系统
[06:28] <nyfair> onlylove: 三大妈pc版，能联机啊
[06:30] <onlylove> nyfair: 我那个PC的联机直接是打叉的，而且PC感觉不如PS流畅
[06:32] <nyfair> onlylove: 来玩吧
[06:32] <nyfair> onlylove: 下个三大妈版呗，还奉送dlc
[06:33] <huntxu> onlylove: 好像是拜clear就好了
[06:33] <huntxu> 拜clear
[06:33] <huntxu> onlylove: 或者拜del
[06:37] <onlylove_> nyfair: 我那个有DLC啊
[06:37] <onlylove_> nyfair: 但是PC和PS的体验真的差不少
[06:38] <onlylove_> huntxu: 问题是……kk的回显呢，没见回显不放心
[06:39] <huntxu> onlylove_: 不知道呢 =.=
[06:43] <onlylove1> 棒子文真TMD，oracle明明装了，就是没有监听
[06:43] <yurakucho> cherrot: 如何快速锁屏?
[06:44] <onlylove1> 这么多鸟语都看过来，单单忍不了棒子文
[06:44] <onlylove1> yurakucho: 鼠标点
[06:44] <yurakucho> cherrot: 现在alfred里screen saver, 没有快捷键很不开心
[06:45] <onlylove1> 我隐约记得是command +u
[06:45] <onlylove1> 反正每个功能都在旁边显示对应快捷键的
[06:46] <cherrot> yurakucho, 盒盖？
[06:46] <yurakucho> cherrot: 一直盒盖用外接 =,=
[06:48] <onlylove1> 喵咪咪的，重装oracle
[06:49] <cherrot> yurakucho, shift + control + power 是关闭屏幕， command＋control＋power是快速重启
[06:49] <cherrot> yurakucho, 电源选项里设置每次唤醒屏幕都要输入密码 就满足需求了
[06:49] <onlylove1> yurakucho: 你有没有问几年换电脑啊，我记得在TI的时候，原本是三年，然后为了节约成本改成4年了
[06:50] <yurakucho> onlylove1: 三年
[06:50] <cherrot> yurakucho, 我就随便一试 结果就快速重启了。。。
[06:51] <yurakucho> cherrot: 我还是alfred吧, magic keyboard太难用 被我还了
[06:51] <yurakucho> cherrot: 自己键盘没有power
[06:51] <onlylove1> cherrot: 赞
[06:51] <yurakucho> cherrot: 哈哈哈哈哈
[06:51] <cherrot> yurakucho, 入hhkb吧 既然都osx了
[06:52] <onlylove1> urakucho, 入hhkb吧 既然都osx了
[06:52] <onlylove> 少复制了个字母
[06:52] <yurakucho> cherrot: apple id都注销了, 忍不了 不好用
[06:52] <happyaron> hhkb pro type-s
[06:52] <happyaron> yurakucho: ^^
[06:52] <yurakucho> 至少键盘鼠标触控板是真渣
[06:53] <onlylove1> happyaron: 土豪蓉蓉，AC这东西，有开源的否
[06:53] <happyaron> onlylove1: 木有
[06:53] <yurakucho> happyaron: cherrot 我用个ikbc g87 五百块的键盘都被围观, 这么穷的公司就不要折腾hhkb了
[06:53] <onlylove1> happyaron: 我看TP的路由内置一个，我估计软件实现的
[06:53] <happyaron> yurakucho: g87今天看见个439
[06:53] <happyaron> onlylove1: 嗯嗯
[06:53] <cherrot> yurakucho, 触控板多好用 土豪把你的mac甩给我吧么么哒
[06:53] <yurakucho> happyaron: 那是别的轴
[06:53] <happyaron> o
[06:54] <cherrot> yurakucho, 有没有淘汰掉的手机借我急用。。
[06:54] <nyfair> 老司机们，陪我玩游戏
[06:54] <yurakucho> cherrot: 最新的蓝牙键盘鼠标触控板加起来有1000了, 都还IT了
[06:54] <yurakucho> cherrot: 咩~
[06:54] * yurakucho afk
[06:55] * cherrot 土豪的世界就是不同
[06:55] <onlylove> cherrot: IT没准想，这么贵的东西都看不上
[06:59] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 寻找计算器 : 一天,美国一大学布告栏上贴出一张纸条,上面写道:"寻物。本人在118教室遗失计算器一台。拾到者因无操作说明书也无法使用,敬请交还到学生会办公室。有酬谢。"不久,下面又有人新贴出一张纸条,上书:"启事！本人有该种计算器的操作说明书出售。联系电话
[06:59] <^k^> ─> :5483267。"
[07:03] <nyfair> http://hacfun-tv.n1.yun.tf:8999/Public/Upload/image/2015-11-09/5640ad26b954a.jpg
[07:04] <onlylove1> windows server真难用
[07:06] <onlylove_> nyfair: 日亚？
[07:09] <onlylove1> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46123
[07:09] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 竞争对手反编译蜻蜓FM App代码，曝光作弊
[07:23] <onlylove> 正好看看蜻蜓的代码
[07:32] * yurakucho 困
[07:32] <happyaron> yurakucho: 睡
[07:35] <onlylove1> happyaron: 累
[07:35] <onlylove1> happyaron: java那货概念太多，估计最后被绕晕的可能比较大
[07:36] <onlylove1> happyaron: perl 和python都没那么多事
[07:43] <onlylove1> 连个能用的PXE都TM的没有，唉，关机，换硬盘，我可没地方用unetbootin
[07:44] <^k^> lainme: 拜才女
[07:45] <wbchn> pxe 是网络安系统的那个么？
[07:51] <onlylove__> 毛网络安全系统，pxe网络启动
[08:06] <onlylove__> test
[08:06] <ubrl> onlylove__:点点点. 16:04
[08:07] <wbchn> onlylove__: 我说的是网络安系统，不是安全系统。。。
[08:07] <onlylove__> wbchn: 我多看了个字，不好意思
[08:08] <wbchn> pxe 用win7内核的不行么？我一直单机，没用pxe安装过
[08:09] <onlylove__> 不，你不知道我的具体情况，是这样的，我需要装一台机器，但是没有优盘或者光盘之类的device可以用
[08:10] <onlylove__> 所以这时候最方便的就是pxe了
[08:10] <onlylove__> 但是！
[08:10] <wbchn> 我一般是直接硬盘安装，如果能进系统拷贝好安装即可
[08:11] <wbchn> 只有32位换64位的时候没搞定，用u盘安装的
[08:11] <onlylove__> 我们们没有pxe
[08:12] <onlylove__> 蓝屏了
[08:12] <wbchn> xp，win7，win10，ubuntu，centos 都是硬盘安装。pxe要是安装一大片还方便，为一台搭个pxe太折腾了
[08:13] <wbchn> 蓝屏的话，摘硬盘，写bootmgr引导，拷贝系统文件，然后插回硬盘继续安装。
[08:14] <onlylove__> 我只是想知道，你windows怎么硬盘安装的……
[08:17] <wbchn> 光盘解压缩，放fat32 分区，进安全模式到i386目录下（win7忘记是不是了）然后找setup.exe运行
[08:17] <wbchn> 不好操作也可以在硬盘上先安装个pe，再安装win7
[08:18] <onlylove__> 表示早不用fat32了……
[08:18] <onlylove__> 应该是i386目录下面的winnt吧……
[08:18] <wbchn> 我留着一个只为系统崩溃了用dos之类的方便，要用pe，那ntfs也无所谓
[08:19] <wbchn> win7 用这里面底3个也好用 http://www.21andy.com/new/20090827/1349.html
[08:19] <ubrl> wbchn: ⇪ Windows 7 硬盘安装正确方法 不用刻盘 | Andy's Blog
[08:20] <gebjgd> onlylove__, wbchn U盘多好
[08:20] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 没有
[08:20] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 你以为我不知道
[08:20] <wbchn> win7的安装文件： win7\sources\setup.exe
[08:20] <gebjgd> onlylove__, u
[08:20] <gebjgd> onlylove__, u盘都没有 公司应该发的
[08:21] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 我司穷！
[08:21] <wbchn> gebjgd: 啥公司的必备装？
[08:21] <wbchn> 我司也没有
[08:21] <gebjgd> wbchn, 以前的老公司随便拿
[08:22] <wbchn> gebjgd: 我们公司推广客户送，自己人用不着不送
[08:22] <gebjgd> wbchn, 和天朝一样
[08:23] <wbchn> gebjgd: 装系统的u盘随便找个就行，100m 的配合局域网就够安装所有系统了
[08:23] <onlylove__> 我在用虚拟机用物理硬盘
[08:26] * yurakuch1 困
[08:33] * cherrot 怒入 nexus 6p
[08:44] <yurakucho> cherrot: 壕!
[08:44] <yurakucho> cherrot: 不嫌大么.. 多少钱
[08:45] <yurakucho> ?
[08:45] <cherrot> yurakucho, 壕就入苹果了
[08:45] <cherrot> yurakucho, 64G $550
[08:45] <yurakucho> cherrot: 海淘?
[08:46] <cherrot> yurakucho, 拿同事的n6试了下 还可以忍
[08:46] <wbchn> huawei 产的？
[08:46] <cherrot> yurakucho, 嗯 美版 日版太贵了
[08:46] <cherrot> 嗯
[08:46] * yurakucho 马上会有一堆amazon券 欢迎让我帮忙海淘又贵又小的东西
[08:46] * cherrot 外加一个chromecast
[08:47] <cherrot> yurakucho, 拜壕 帮我买个飞机杯吧
[08:47] <^k^> cherrot: ok yurakucho => 拜壕 帮我买个飞机杯吧
[08:47] <yurakucho> cherrot: 你有play.google.com能用的卡?
[08:47] <wbchn> ...
[08:47] <yurakucho> -yurakucho
[08:47] <yurakucho> ^k^: -yurakucho
[08:47] <cherrot> yurakucho, 只要账单地址和收货地址填相同就可以 我的招商visa
[08:47] <cherrot> 拜壕 再试一下
[08:47] <wbchn> 双币还是银联就够？
[08:48] <cherrot> yurakucho, 拜壕 再试一下
[08:48] <^k^> cherrot: ok yurakucho => 拜壕 再试一下
[08:48] <cherrot> wbchn, 肯定双币
[08:48] <yurakucho> cherrot: 以前试过失败了好像
[08:48] <cherrot> yurakucho, 在Google wallet里把账单地址更新了就不会被取消订单了 我刚刚也是折腾了一会儿
[08:50] <yurakucho> cherrot: 技能Get
[08:50] <wbchn> https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p?gl=US 在您所在的国家/地区目前无法购买此商品。
[08:50] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Nexus 6P - 坚固金属外壳 - 华为 - Nexus - Android 手机 - Google 商店
[08:50] <wbchn> cherrot: 只能amazon了？
[08:52] <yurakucho> yurakucho: 拜高帅穷
[08:52] <^k^> yurakucho: ok yurakucho => 拜高帅穷
[08:53] <cherrot> wbchn, 我当时设置过google wallet 所在地改成了北美 不然最方便的方法就是美国vpn然后注册个新账号买
[08:54] <wbchn> cherrot: 我看64G是699.95刀呢
[08:54] <ulot0> 圆狐的设计不好看，我喜欢方方正正的
[08:54] <wbchn> 等改天发达了再去买谷歌的100儿子
[08:55] <cherrot> wbchn, 你瞎了。。
[08:55] <ulot0> 咦，你们怎么都喜欢亚马逊呢？干嘛不京东？有啥窍门吗？
[08:56] <wbchn> cherrot: ？
[08:57] <wbchn> 壕的世界我不懂，还是继续码砖去了
[09:02] <cherrot> wb
[09:02] <cherrot> wbchn, 我这没问题 你确定是北美的play store么
[09:07] <wbchn> cherrot: 没切过去，还显示在您所在的国家/地区目前无法购买此商品。我在亚马逊美国看的
[09:08] <cherrot> wbchn, 搬砖去吧 我都说了是google store的价格
[09:08] <wbchn> cherrot: 现在好了 Nexus 6P购买：US$ 499.00起
[09:09] <wbchn> cherrot: 黑的缺货，其他两款64G的 549
[09:32] <nyfair> 麻痹，现在创业公司真诚实，直接给你写清楚996
[09:34] <yurakucho> nyfair: 常态啊
[09:35] <nyfair> yurakucho: 还是贵司适合养老
[09:35] <yurakucho> nyfair: 感觉很忙啊...
[09:36] <nyfair> yurakucho: 忙个屁，我做游戏破解的，各种未知的二进制数据包里找图片音乐文本。你们那种搞搞爬虫折腾出来的数据挖掘在我看来就像小儿科
[09:36] <nyfair> yurakucho: 快来内推我
[09:37] <yurakucho> nyfair: 简历发来呗
[09:37] <nyfair> github简历不够？
[09:37] <yurakucho> nyfair: 不够吧...
[09:41] <onlylove_> 996,好凶残！
[09:45] <tryit> yurakucho, 求老板内推。。。
[09:47] <yurakucho> tryit: 简历发来
[09:49] <tryit> yurakucho, 去不了帝都了，要不肯定跟lee老板混
[09:49] <onlylove_> lee老板，mac借我玩几天
[09:50] <wbchn> lee 老板是哪位？yurakucho？
[09:51] <onlylove_> 是的
[09:58] <DevOps> hello
[09:58] <ubrl> DevOps:点点点. 17:55
[09:58] <DevOps> ubuntu 下ldap谁帮下我，疯了。
[10:10] <onlylove__> http://www.techug.com/alipay-game
[10:10] <ubrl> onlylove__: ⇪ 熊孩子偷老妈支付宝怒冲1万3 游戏登顶 | 程序师
[10:44] <CyrusYzGTt> .. 请问，x265 ,,mplayer怎么 播放不了视频
[10:50] <onlylove_> DELL的渣渣存储，并发真TM烂，比EMC烂不知道多少倍
[11:20] <CyrusYzGTt> 这个有没有小白用过 https://fedoramagazine.org/never-leave-irc-znc/
[11:20] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Never leave IRC again with ZNC - Fedora Magazine
[11:21] <MoYahoo> 木有
[11:38] <lainme> CyrusYzGTt: weechat自带relay https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/WeeChat#Adding_a_relay
[11:38] <ubrl> ⇪ t: WeeChat - Gentoo Wiki
[11:39] <CyrusYzGTt> lainme§ ,, 铃音姐。。 怎么全是 英文，，
[11:40] <ulot0> 明天我的固态硬盘就到了
[11:44] <Bluek404> irccloud也可以
[12:04] <netsnail_> 网上有卖kodi的蓝牙遥控器吗？
[12:07] <ulot0> 你去搜啊
[12:09] <netsnail_> 美亚上还真有
[12:09] <netsnail_> 不过挺贵的
[12:09] <netsnail_> 不过是无线的，不是蓝牙的
[12:13] <ulot0> 蓝牙遥控器优势在哪里呢
[12:15] <ulot0> http://geekview.baijia.baidu.com/article/226699 这个好
[12:15] <ubrl> ulot0: ⇪ 又找不到东西了？找颗石头帮忙吧！--百度百家
[12:50] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu故事和感慨 • 買電腦八年，終於知道電腦為何故障多 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473818 寫了一篇文章，放在： http://user.qzone.qq.com/695591190/blog/1447245242 下面給出全文： 想知道為什麼電腦容易出故障？看這裡 自從2007年12月2日我購進我的第一臺個人電腦BenQ JoyBook A52E-10
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[04:27] <bzoltan_> mcphail: please remove the click chroot and recreate it. Tools -> Options ... -> Ubuntu -> Click -> Delete button
[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[09:56] <Kivi> morning
[10:15] <Mirv> faenil: can you join #ubuntu-ci-eng and give jibel an example of where the crash happens
[10:19] <mcphail> bzoltan_: I'll try that tonight, but it was a new chroot in the first place
[10:21] <bzoltan_> mcphail: how new?
[10:22] <mcphail> bzoltan_: brand spanking new
[10:22] <mcphail> bzoltan_: created at command line, rather than SDK, though
[10:23] <mcphail> don't know if that makes a difference
[10:23] <bzoltan_> mcphail: it should not matter
[10:23] <bzoltan_> mcphail: it was a known problem.. but got fixed recently. Do you mind to try out the new IDE?
[10:24] <mcphail> bzoltan_: I'm on 15.10 without any PPAs. Should I install something?
[10:24] <mcphail> bzoltan_: I'd been told I didn't need the SDK PPA for 15.10
[10:25] <bzoltan_> mcphail: Yes, you need a fixed click package set - click - 0.4.40+15.10.20151012-0ubuntu1
[10:25] <bzoltan_> mcphail: and that is from the SDK PPA
[10:25] <mcphail> bzoltan_: OK, I'll install that this evening. Thanks!
[10:26] <bzoltan_> mcphail: the story is that click by default creates a stock archive chroot... vivid one. What is waaaaaay outdated compare to the Overlay PPA what is the archive for the phone images.
[10:26] <bzoltan_> mcphail: But once you play around, I suggest you to use the new IDE
[10:26] <mcphail> bzoltan_: what's the new IDE?
[10:27] <bzoltan_> mcphail: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/tools-development && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get udate && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk ubuntu-sdk-dev
[10:28] <bzoltan_> mcphail: It is a brand new idea, we have fixed lots of things and it is decoupled from the archive Qt. Safer, cleaner, more dry feeling
[10:28] <mcphail> bzoltan_: ha! Sounds system-breaking... :) I'll try it.
[10:30] <bzoltan_> mcphail: One point is that it can not break your system :) the new SDK is totally decoupled from the system... no conflicts, less dependencies, isolated and stuff.. better
[10:30] <bzoltan_> mcphail: we are testing it for weeks now, it is complete and ready to land...
[10:31] <mcphail> bzoltan_: nice. I'll give it a try
[10:31] <mcphail> bzoltan_: I don't use the IDE much, but thought I'd be dilligent and use a template for translations etc
[10:31] <bzoltan_> mcphail: thank you, please ping me or zbenjamin in case any problem comes up
[10:31] <mcphail> will do
[10:32] <bzoltan_> mcphail: This IDE rocks.. we use it for development... I do not use IDE either otherwise, I am happy on vi + bash, but for Qt an QML development this IDE is so native
[10:32] <mcphail> bzoltan_: can we use the GUI for UI design yet?
[10:33] <mcphail> bzoltan_: that would be a good feature for me
[10:35] <mcphail> I'm terrible at design
[10:35] <bzoltan_> mcphail: no and I serioulsy doubt that it will ever happen... the UI designer of the IDE can not and will not render custom components. And our UITK is all about custom component. If you would be happy with an abstract and non very visual UI designer then we can make that.
[10:36] <mcphail> bzoltan_: if it isn't going to work, I think your talents would be better spent on other things :)
[10:36] <mcphail> bzoltan_: That is really something for QtC upstream to fix
[10:38] <bzoltan_> mcphail: it is more about implementing a very big feature...and well :) they are there to be hired for job like that :) if somebody folds out the money then sure they will do that.
[10:38] <mcphail> bzoltan_: shame they don't still have someone like Nokia waving cheques around
[10:44] <bzoltan_> mcphail: Yes, that was a big stepback for Qt project indeed. Shame, really shame. In other hand... Qt was not in the best hands of Nokia... and Trolls never really liked to be part of Nokia.
[10:46] <mcphail> From an outside perspective, Qt seemed healthiest when Nokia controlled it. Docs were up to date and project was getting pushed in interesting directions. I realise it might have been hell internally
[10:47] <mcphail> anyway, I'm going a bit OT :)
[11:30] <popey> mcphail, I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the new ide / click / chroots etc
[11:35] <mcphail> popey: I'll ping you later and let you know
[11:35] <popey> ta
[11:35] <popey> my worry is that it will mess with my carefully crafted chroots
[11:35] <mcphail> popey: my 15.10 install is fresh, so I don't have old chroots to be destroyed
[11:36] <popey> hm
[11:36] <popey> last time I tried they all got destroyed and I had to restore them
[11:36] <mcphail> popey: it is quite refreshing, as I think i had about 1500 when this machine was on 15.04
[11:37] <popey> hah
[11:37] <mcphail> popey: I might experiment with setting up a build environment with lxd as well
[11:38] <mcphail> popey: DanChapman runs one in a docker container, so it should be possible
[11:38] <DanChapman> popey: So far i've had a pleasent experience with the new IDE and had no problems using my existing chroots.
[11:41] <popey> ok
[12:28] <ich> hi
[12:29] <Guest76117> i need help with my qml code. how can i include png files into my qml app?
[12:32] <Guest76117> #help
[12:32] <Guest76117> wie funktioniert dieses irc ?
[12:32] <Guest76117> wie kann ich es beenden ?
[12:32] <kalikiana> Guest76117: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-image.html
[12:32] <kalikiana> lauf nicht weg, sonst wird Dir auch keiner helfen können ;-)
[12:33] <Guest76117> ok
[12:33] <kalikiana> something like Image { source: Qt.resolvedUrl('myImage.png') }
[12:33] <kalikiana> the resolvedUrl is important so it will find it within your project
[12:34] <Guest76117> super dankeschön
[12:39] <mcphail> bzoltan_: can I use the new IDE on 14.04 if I install those PPAs?
[12:45] <bzoltan_> mcphail: Yes, you can.
[12:45] <mcphail> bzoltan_: great. thanks
[12:46] <bzoltan_> mcphail: we spin off two new minor release candidate builds in the following 10-12 hours. So be tuned for updates :)
[12:46] <mcphail> ha! - the joy of the bleeding edge
[14:53] <hasselmm> is it possible to use the ubuntu SDK plugins with qtcreator from git?
[14:54] <hasselmm> mixing qtcreator from git and from SDK permanently kills all my kits
[17:37] <kalikiana> hasselmm: you'll want to talk to zbenjamin
[18:08] <hasselmm> kalikiana: 'k
[19:57] <mcphail> bzoltan_: still can't get the qml/qmake template to build a .click on the latest SDK
[20:00] <mcphail> popey: the new SDK installed fine on my 15.10 box. I have recreated my chroots from scratch, though, so don't know how well a chroot would migrate
[20:00] <popey> ok
[20:00] <popey> think i might move my chroots over to another machine and try the new sdk there
[20:01] <mcphail> popey: had to give up on lxd for now as it was very buggy
[20:01] <popey> :S
[20:02] <mcphail> definitely seems to be some races in the lxc/lxd stack
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[00:32] <alexlist> pgquiles_: thats what we end up doing until the upstream 3rd pty software vendor comes up with a version compiled with gcc 5.2 ...
[00:36] <pgquiles_> alexlist: then move your application to C++11 ABI too :-)
[02:12] <psusi> does anyone have experience with IP multicast? I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with mediatomb... it currently has its .service file run route add -n 239.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 eth0, and ifconfig eth0 allmulti... but shouldn't these be entirely unneeded if it were programmed right?
[02:13] <psusi> that is to say, shouldn't it be using the sockets api to subscribe to the multicast group and send packets to the right interfaces, without the startup script running these commands?
[03:42] <hallyn> pitti: mbiebl: is there a way (rm some stampfile) to get just the fakeroot debian/rules binary part of a systemd package build to be re-done? (I changed one file, want just that rebuilt)
[06:13] <pitti> Good morning
[06:13] <pitti> hallyn: it heavily depends on the packaging, but try debuild/dpkg-buildpackge with -nc ?
[06:14] <hallyn> pitti: was specifically asking about sytemd :) but will try that next time, thx
[06:15] <hallyn> good night :)
[06:15] * hallyn out
[06:17] <pitti> hallyn: I suggest building with CFLAGS="-O0 -g", it's muuuch faster
[06:17] <pitti> hallyn: good night!
[06:24] <pitti> slangasek: cantor> ah, so that's a case where test-simulated-installing the individual debs from -proposed works, but several of them as a whole; I'll have a closer look at that, and either robustify our fallback to un-pinned, or maybe infinity's suggestion works even better
[06:25] <pitti> slangasek: curious that it did find that "uninstallable with partial -proposed" on i386/amd64
[06:25] <pitti> slangasek: It can be reproduced locally rather easily, I just need to do an autopkgtest release; doing that now
[06:25] <pitti> slangasek: err, "soon" -- after looking at the trigger prio thing
[06:26] <pitti> (giving this some field testing is the reason why I didn't release it yet)
[06:27] <slangasek> pitti: "trigger prio thing"?
[06:27] <pitti> slangasek: sorry, I meant changing the apt pinning the way Adam suggested
[06:27] <slangasek> pitti: but ok, thanks for the clarification on cantor
[06:27] <slangasek> ah right on
[06:27] <pitti> I actually thought I tried with higher prios already, but maybe not high enough
[06:28] <slangasek> I think the threshold is 500
[06:28] <slangasek> and I guess I read the manpage wrong
[06:30] <pitti> yeah, I remembered right -- merely bumping 100 to 800 for -proposed still doesn't fix my test case
[06:32] <slangasek> pitti: ok you and infinity get to scratch your heads together then :)
[06:32] <pitti> but I'll try this on cantor and lxd, if it makes things any better
[06:34] <pitti> slangasek: and in any case I have cantor and lxd (and possibly others) to at least fix the regressing tests :)
[06:34] <slangasek> right ;)
[06:34] <slangasek> meanwhile I'm overriding for octave so we can make progress on the transition
[06:36] <pitti> slangasek: that won't actually propagate yet as it seems, so I can still look at it while it's in proposed, yes
[07:02] <pitti> slangasek, stgraber: ooh, I know what's wrong -- we still dist-upgrade the whole testbed to -proposed (things like sqlite or kernel, which are in the default install), which then conflicts with the apt pinning that we set up
[07:03] <pitti> (unrelated to that apt pinning not working in every case, but explaining the test regressions)
[07:03] <pitti> in fact, in the new regime we don't actually *want* to upgrade the whole testbed, I think
[07:03] <pitti> only the packages we are testing
[07:04] <pitti> it gives us better coverage for testing low-level packages, but it's incompatible with that new pinning isolation approach
[07:23] <dkessel> good morning
[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <ginggs_> Logan, doko: can i go ahead and sync openblas? you had a "build everywhere" patch and now the new version builds on all the ubuntu archs https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=openblas&suite=unstable
[08:53] <pitti> slangasek: removed your hint again, octave is green again (and it's stuck on the graphicsmagick transition)
[09:01] <mapreri> can somebody help me make some sense of these failures? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sigil/0.9.0+dfsg-1
[10:09] <pitti> infinity, Laney: FYI, I documented the improved tmpfail handling and also added the SIGHUP vs. SIGTERM bits to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure#Administration
[10:25] <decci> Hello Developers
[10:26] <decci> I am trying to build multiple .deb packages. One .DEB package worked fine but while I am trying to use the same rule file for multiple packages it throws dh_builddeb: -P was specified, but multiple packages would be acted on
[10:28] <cjwatson> decci: this will probably be easier to debug if you pastebin your rules file
[10:29] <decci> cjwatson: Sure
[10:34] <decci> cjwatson: http://pastebin.com/CKx62rB4
[10:34] <decci> cjwatson: While I tried creating .DEB with 1 package entry in control file, it worked. But while I added two more package entries into control file, it complained
[10:36] <decci> dh_builddeb: -P was specified, but multiple packages would be acted on
[10:37] <cjwatson> decci: ok, that has a number of flaws
[10:38] <decci> cjwatson: like?
[10:38] <cjwatson> you shouldn't be calling so many dh_* commands in override_dh_install, to start with - that should only be modifying the behaviour of dh_install
[10:38] <cjwatson> and you probably have no real need to pass --tmpdir to dh_builddeb
[10:38] <decci> cjwatson: I skipped dh $@ --with autotools-dev --with autoreconf --parallel --builddirectory=_build
[10:39] <cjwatson> you would be better off installing files to the right place rather than overriding tmpdir
[10:39] <decci> cjwatson: What is the right way?
[10:39] <cjwatson> which probably simply means setting buildroot = debian/dang (assuming that that's your package name)
[10:39] <decci> cjwatson: I usually do is dh_make >> !cmake >> debian/rules build >> debian/rules binary
[10:39] <cjwatson> but it depends on what delta.mk does
[10:40] <decci> cjwatson: It just has variables for lib, opt and etc placement
[10:40] <cjwatson> decci: debian/rules should be the entry point and should take care of calling cmake or whatever
[10:41] <decci> cjwatson: Few queries I have
[10:41] <xnox> hallyn: i has no internets at home yet =)
[10:41] <xnox> hallyn: when i haz internets i'll be happy to do things.
[10:41] <decci> cjwatson: Say I have precompiled source code
[10:42] <decci> cjwatson: I went to source directory
[10:42] <cjwatson> precompiled source code makes no difference, if that's the case you just have debian/rules not do the build pass, it usually actually simplifies things
[10:42] <decci> cjwatson: Ran dh_make -f ../delta.tar.gz -p delta_6.2.0
[10:42] <decci> cjwatson: okay
[10:43] <decci> cjwatson: Then ran cmake command with cmake -DDO_STAGING=FALSE -G 'Unix Makefiles' -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/tmp/INST/620/64 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DBUILD_ARCH=m64 -DRELEASE_MAJOR=6 -DRELEASE_MINOR=2 -DRELEASE_MICRO=0 -DSIGN_JARS=FALSE -DOBFUSCATE_JARS=FALSE -DTKT_NO=1234 -DREV_NO=1234 .
[10:43] <decci> cjwatson: then debian/rules build
[10:43] <cjwatson> ok, seriously, don't
[10:43] <cjwatson> debian/rules should be the thing that calls cmake
[10:44] <decci> cjwatson: :(
[10:44] <cjwatson> (possibly via helpers)
[10:44] <cjwatson> and for sensibly-laid-out cmake packages, dh will do most of the hard work for you
[10:44] <decci> cjwatson: you mean I can skip cmake..but DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX refers to /tmp/INST/620/64
[10:45] <cjwatson> dh will set a more sensible CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX
[10:45] <decci> cjwatson: where my required directories and files are stored to be picked up
[10:45] <cjwatson> /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/cmake.pm: -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
[10:45] <cjwatson> but you can override that in override_dh_auto_build if you need to
[10:46] <cjwatson> /tmp/INST/620/64 is a seriously weird place for files to end up in the built package
[10:46] <decci> cjwatson::(
[10:46] <decci> cjwatson: Looks like I have been doing things wrongly
[10:47] <decci> cjwatson: though I was able to create a single package
[10:47] <decci> cjwatson: Any reference which can help me with example how to proceed when one has precompiled source and cmake ready
[10:47] <cjwatson> decci: so, my starting point for what you're describing would be something roughly like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13226226/
[10:47] <decci> cjwatson: let me go through
[10:47] <cjwatson> you can add more stuff to the dh_auto_build line if you need to, to pass other cmake options
[10:48] <cjwatson> and I might have got some of the paths a bit wrong because I don't know all the detials
[10:48] <cjwatson> *details
[10:48] <decci> cjwatson: So dont we need dh_install, dh_builddeb
[10:48] <cjwatson> decci: dh will call those automatically
[10:48] <cjwatson> that's its purpose
[10:48] <decci> cjwatson: not even dh_install
[10:49] <cjwatson> dh calls that
[10:49] <decci> cjwatson: okay
[10:49] <cjwatson> see "man dh"
[10:49] <cjwatson> the point of these override rules is that you can have a rules file that says "just do the sensible thing" and then override it for the bits where you need non-default behaviour
[10:49] <decci> cjwatson: and where shall I put my directory which I want to install like /opt /etc
[10:49] <cjwatson> debian/<package-name>.dirs
[10:50] <cjwatson> debian/dang in my example should be replaced with debian/<package-name> where <package-name> is the binary package you want to install that stuff into
[10:50] <cjwatson> oh, in fact my example probably wants to be http://paste.ubuntu.com/13226240/ so that you can still use debian/*.install files
[10:50] <cjwatson> (i.e. override_dh_install changed to be "dh_install + more stuff" rather than just the custom stuff)
[10:51] <cjwatson> decci: ^-
[10:52] <decci> cjwatson: Do I need to simply dump all my diretory udner debian/<package-name>.dirs
[10:53] <decci> cjwatson: What about buildroot?
[10:53] <decci> cjwatson: Let me try following your rules file and see if that works
[10:53] <cjwatson> I would strongly recommend reading the debhelper docs - the .dirs file is documented in "man dh_installdirs"
[10:54] <cjwatson> for buildroot, well, that depends what that actually does
[10:55] <cjwatson> but normally, the way this works when you have multiple binaries is that you install your stuff to debian/tmp (or more usually let debhelper sort that out for you) and then you have .install files that select which bits of the upstream-installed tree to put into which binaries
[10:55] <cjwatson> you should make sure that it's actually worth multiple binary packages, since it's somewhat inevitably more work to keep track of what goes where
[10:56] <decci> cjwatson: I am trying that now..rules file ready..just need to dump .dir
[10:56] <decci> cjwatson: 2 min
[10:56] <decci> cjwatson: but normally, the way this works when you have multiple binaries is that you install your stuff to debian/tmp (or more usually let debhelper sort that out for you) and then you have .install files that select which bits of the upstream-installed tree to put into which binaries
[10:57] <decci> cjwatson: The above recommendation is what I tried too..let me show what I actually did..
[10:59] <ara> cjwatson, tjaalton: hello! This bug has been verified for some days in trusty-proposed and it is quite critical to have it in updates, can any of you review it, please?
[10:59] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1480217
[11:00] <ara> or pitti ^
[11:00] <ara> :)
[11:01] <pitti> ara: it's been 5 days, and we normally require 7
[11:01] <ara> pitti, ah, great, good to know :)
[11:01] <pitti> ara: as an explanation why it hasn't been moved yet
[11:01] <pitti> ara: if that's super-urgent, we can expedite of course
[11:02] <ara> this one is a bit urgent, yes, but it is good to know the 7-day rule
[11:06] <tjaalton> and works around a crasher in the intel X driver, giving more time to bisect it..
[11:06] <rbasak> Is there a known bug in lintian in Wily? I'm getting a false positive on postinst-must-call-ldconfig but can't reproduce with lintian on sid.
[11:08] * rbasak ignores the error
[11:08] <decci> cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13226314/
[11:09] <pitti> ara: released
[11:09] <ara> pitti, fantastic, thanks a lot
[11:09] <decci> cjwatson: I tried specifying .install file where I have added entries for files..but where shall I actually add those directories to ..will debian/tmp the right directory to put?
[11:10] <decci> cjwatson: Does the pastebin looks good
[11:15] <doko> ginggs_, sure
[11:16] <decci> cjwatson: tried running it lets see how it goes
[11:17] <cjwatson> decci: so, "delta-dang" is not one of the package names you've listed in debian/control, so that won't work
[11:18] <cjwatson> decci: nor will the "Depends: delta-dang (>= blah)" in a couple of places in debian/control
[11:18] <cjwatson> decci: also, debian/dang in debian/rules should be replaced with debian/delta-eng or debian/delta-dang-snmp or debian/delta-dang-dev or something, depending on which package you want those ld.so.conf.d files to go in
[11:19] <decci> cjwatson: That I am going to correct..just an example ...
[11:19] <decci> cjwatson: One thing to ask - how will debian/rules binary know to pick up all directory under debian/tmp
[11:19] <decci> cjwatson: is what buildroot enough to help it
[11:20] <cjwatson> decci: dh_install will expect to be able to copy those files from under debian/tmp; normally you shouldn't need to hardcode that though, because dh_auto_install will run "make install DESTDIR=$(pwd)/debian/tmp" or equivalent for you
[11:20] <cjwatson> any vaguely well-written upstream build system should honour that
[11:20] <decci> cjwatson: Great info
[11:21] <cjwatson> decci: buildroot is entirely your stuff, debhelper doesn't know or care about it
[11:22] <decci> cjwatson: What about Depends section in control file, say for a package if I mention Depends: (foo1), (foo2) and that is not current built..will the .DEB packaging proceed
[11:22] <cjwatson> in general most variables that you set in debian/rules are up to you, unless specifically documented otherwise
[11:23] <cjwatson> decci: an unsatisfiable Depends won't prevent the build from completing, but you might end up with a .deb you can't install
[11:23] <decci> cjwatson: So it means if I install it on ubuntu machine, it will throw error saying it is dependend upon foo2 wwhich has to be installed
[11:23] <decci> cjwatson: correct
[11:23] <cjwatson> decci: right
[11:24] <decci> cjwatson: So it is suggested to install the foo2 first and then install this package
[11:24] <decci> cjwatson: got your point
[11:24] <cjwatson> well, most people will use apt which handles that automatically, but yes, if you install with dpkg -i then you have to deal with that yourself
[11:24] <decci> cjwatson: it was great info..I am going to start from fresh with correct pkg name which u suggest and see if that helps
[11:24] <cjwatson> this is entirely necessary behaviour of course, since you're typically depending on all sorts of things that aren't part of your source package
[11:25] <decci> cjwatson: I wonder if there would be more easy way..I loved checkinstall but it lacks rules part right
[11:25] <decci> cjwatson: debreate is GUI based but quite slow
[11:25] <cjwatson> decci: well, I'm the wrong person to ask about that
[11:26] <decci> cjwatson:I understand...an official way is debian doc
[11:28] <ginggs_> thanks doko
[12:14] <decci> cjwatson: One question - delta-dang.install under http://paste.ubuntu.com/13226314/...does it install those directory
[12:15] <decci> cjwatson: sbin doesnt occur under opt/dang/dang
[12:15] <decci> cjwatson: so wonder what this file actually does
[12:17] <cjwatson> decci: if it doesn't occur there, why did you write the file that way?
[12:17] <cjwatson> decci: "man dh_install" explains what *.install files do
[12:17] <cjwatson> please do read it
[12:18] <decci> cjwatson: Look in my rules I specify mkdir, touch and mv to copy , create files..here and there which is required..so I wanted to understand what actually entries under .install doing
[12:18] <decci> cjwatson: ok will read it
[12:19] <cjwatson> decci: you can always do things by hand, but where possible it's more robust, simpler, and clearer to use declarative forms rather than big piles of shell
[12:27] <decci> cjwatson: The rules went fine.During dh_install part , http://paste.ubuntu.com/13226669/
[12:28] <cjwatson> decci: you should only be putting something in *.install if the upstream build system installs it
[12:29] <cjwatson> otherwise, I don't have enough context of this build system to advise
[12:30] <decci> cjwatson: Do I need .dir directory which u suggested to dump all the directories to
[12:31] <decci> cjwatson: I was mistakenly dumping everything under /tmp...i think debian/tmp is being created while rule is run
[12:31] <decci> cjwatson: So I would need .dir directory too
[12:31] <decci> cjwatson: correct?
[12:32] <cjwatson> the purpose of debian/*.dirs (which is "dirs", not "dir", and is a file, not a directory) is to declare that you need a bunch of mkdir commands run by dh_installdirs; nothing else
[12:32] <cjwatson> installing to /tmp is a serious mistake, fix that first
[12:33] <cjwatson> the upstream build system ought to be installing to where DESTDIR says, and creating directories as needed
[12:35] <decci> cjwatson: Can you help me with an example..little confusing
[12:35] <decci> cjwatson: you can take http://paste.ubuntu.com/13226669/ as an example
[12:35] <cjwatson> not at the moment, I'm sorry, run out of time for this
[12:35] <decci> cjwatson: Just need to udnerstand dh_install
[12:43] <pgquiles_> decci: you may need to run dh_instal with --sourcedir=debian/tmp/
[12:43] <pgquiles_> and that's assuming you are actually installing to debian/tmp, by default .dirs creates directores under debian/packagename
[12:46] <cjwatson> or 'echo 9 >debian/compat' so that it uses more modern behaviour by default
[12:46] <cjwatson> (assuming that's currently missing or set to something less than 7)
[13:09] <decci> ok
[13:10] <decci> cjwatson: compat is set to 7
[13:13] <decci> pgquiles_: but debian/tmp is something which is being created as it is buildroot.
[13:16] <decci> cjwatson: where do I need to dump the directories which I want to push to debian/tmp
[13:18] <decci> pgquiles_: where do I need to dump the directories which I want to push to debian/tmp
[13:53] <hallyn> xnox: is that scheduled soon or are you like waiting for fiber to be laid down in february or something? :)
[14:02] <xnox> hallyn: i'm awaiting for a fibre modem to arrive.
[14:02] <xnox> hallyn: the fibre is in place.
[14:07] <cyphermox> good morning!
[14:17] <roadmr> hey folks! I need to make the checkbox source package produce only dummiy binaries for upgrading purposes. Is it ok if the source package contains only a debian directory?
[14:19] <Laney> roadmr: you could also make the new package provide the old binaries
[14:19] <cjwatson> yeah, the latter approach would be more usual, although the former is OK
[14:20] <roadmr> oh good idea... let me ask the new package folks
[14:46] <hallyn> xnox: swanky :) for me, high bw is reserved for my servers, sadly
[15:12] <pitti> sitter: ah, I see some kde tests got fixed for the "command line option ‘-std=c++11’ is valid for C++/ObjC++ but not for C
[15:12] <pitti> " thingy
[15:12] <pitti> sil2100: AFAICS, kcoreaddons, kio, and kde-runtime are still left
[15:12] <pitti> err, sitter ^
[15:14] <pitti> greyback, sil2100: FYI, seems qtmir FTBFS on armhf now: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/armhf/q/qtmir/20151111_122235@/log.gz
[15:15] <sitter> yofel: ^
[15:16] <sil2100> pitti: you pinging me again!
[15:16] <sil2100> ;p
[15:16] <greyback> CLOCK_MONOTONIC undeclared??
[15:17] <pitti> greyback: yeah, that's what the log says; not sure, might be a change/regression in new kernel?
[15:17] <yofel> pitti: I fixed all of that as far as I know, but as 35 of my uploads were rejected, I first need to develop a way to keep the kubuntu packageset in sync with reality. Then I'll upload the rest.
[15:18] <yofel> (regarding kde tests)
[15:19] <pitti> yofel: oh cool, thank you!
[15:22] <greyback> pitti: that's coming in via lttng headers that qtmir includes. Looking to see where that symbol might have gone
[15:23] <pitti> doko: the python{2.7,3.4,3.5} regressions actually do look related to the new openssl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13227864/
[15:23] <pitti> doko: does that magic "options" number need to be adjusted for the new openssl, or is that actually a bug in openssl?
[15:23] <pitti> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#openssl
[15:24] <pitti> yofel: FYI, kwin (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwin/4:5.4.2-0ubuntu2) FTBFS on symbols mismatches
[15:27] <roaksoax_> pitti: so, I'm running into an issue where the tests seems to be failing, even though all the tests have run successfully. Anychance you can take a look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13227887/
[15:28] <roaksoax_> my guess is that it is: adt-run: DBG: / tests-tree rmtree /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/maas-trusty-trunk-manual/results/tests-tree
[15:28] <roaksoax_> Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure
[15:31] <pitti> roaksoax_: what prints that ^, a Jenkins job?
[15:38] <mdeslaur> pitti, doko: python tests need to be fixed to match how I've disabled sslv3
[15:38] <yofel> pitti: I know, I'll patch that later today (there was some upstream discussion involved)
[15:40] <pitti> mdeslaur: ah, that's the missing 0x2000000?
[15:41] <mdeslaur> pitti: yeah...it's making some assumptions there....there also seems to be sslv3 tests later on too which probably will fail
[15:41] <mdeslaur> pitti, doko: I'll fix them
[15:42] <pitti> mdeslaur: thanks for the heads-up; does that apply to Debian's openssl too?
[15:42] <pitti> doko usually keeps the python* in sync
[15:42] <pitti> or perhaps the test should just be loosened
[15:42] <mdeslaur> debian broke abi with their change, so a lot of things will be breaking there
[15:43] <pitti> so at worst, "options in [2164261887, 2197816319]"
[15:43] <mdeslaur> yeah, I'll try and make it work both ways
[16:56] <dholbach> can somebody moderate my mail to u-d-a?
[17:14] <cjwatson> dholbach: done
[17:14] <dholbach> thanks cjwatson
[17:15] <mapreri> the sigil builds on xenial are failing due to apt failures that don't make sense to me, can some of you take a look at them? (they are all the same) https://launchpadlibrarian.net/225723080/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.sigil_0.9.0%2Bdfsg-1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[17:17] <Laney> mapreri: Looks like libjs-jquery-scrollto isn't installable because we don't have jquery >= 1.8
[17:18] <cjwatson> libjs-jquery-scrollto : Depends: libjs-jquery (>= 1.8) but 1.7.2+dfsg-3ubuntu2 is to be installed
[17:18] <cjwatson> bah, too slow
[17:19] <mapreri> oh, right :\
[17:19] <mapreri> Laney: cjwatson: but shouldn't LP figure this out *before* trying to build it?
[17:19] <mapreri> and put the package in depwait
[17:20] <mapreri> and also, xenial/release contains an installable version of libjs-jquery-scrollto that does not need libjs-jquery (>= 1.8), why not trying that
[17:22] <cjwatson> mapreri: the problem is that that depwait could be resolved in multiple different ways
[17:22] <cjwatson> mapreri: it wouldn't be accurate to set a depwait on libjs-jquery (>= 1.8), because libjs-jquery-scrollto might stop depending on it
[17:22] <cjwatson> mapreri: and beyond that this gets combinatorial-explody
[17:22] <mapreri> (it won't)
[17:23] <cjwatson> yeah but LP doesn't know that
[17:23] <cjwatson> mapreri: so we don't set depwaits more than one level down
[17:23] <cjwatson> to avoid the situation where there's an outdated depwait that will never clear by itself
[17:24] <mapreri> cjwatson: any reason why apt can't figure out to use an outdated version of libjs-jquery-scrollto which is installable?
[17:24] <cjwatson> no idea
[17:25] <cjwatson> possibly just trying to avoid having to do exponential backtracking
[17:26] <mapreri> ok
[17:28] <mapreri> i'll just ignore it, hopefully somebody will merge a newer version of jquery and everything will fix by itself
[18:56] <greyback> pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtmir/xenial-armhf-fix/+merge/277282 fixes that qtmir issue here. How to land? Make a silo?
[19:21] <elbrus> pitti: my latest upload of dbconfig-common fails to pass the autopkgtests on armhf only, everytime for another reason which all look unrelated to dbconfig-commoon... what is the best way forward?
[19:21] <elbrus> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/d/dbconfig-common/xenial/armhf/
[19:29] <slangasek> pitti: it appears britney is waiting for a test result from libpdl-stats-perl on amd64 triggered by gsl/2.0+dfsg-1ubuntu1, but the request looks like it was lost because there was another libpdl-stats-perl test running at the same time with a different trigger
[19:30] <slangasek> pitti: (manually triggered now)
[19:35] <ponycorn> Hey guys, are there any plans to update the gpg iso signing keys? To my knowledge, 1024 bit DSA keys are not considered safe anymore?
[19:50] <mdeslaur> ponycorn: bug 1363482
[19:59] <cjwatson> (answered on #ubuntu-release, too)
[20:07] <ponycorn> Awesome, thank you mdeslaur and ubottu, and sorry for posting this in multiple channels
[20:54] <robert_ancell> slangasek, infinity, could someone have a look at the lightdm 1.14.3 SRU for vivid? It's got a feature that's important for the phone.
[22:03] <mbiebl> hallyn: not sure if your question was answered, but I think this is standard dh7 behaviour
[22:03] <mbiebl> I assume dh keeps stamp files in debian/, but I actually dunno if you can remove one of those to trigger a new make run
[22:04] <mbiebl> what you can do, to speed up the build, is to not run the test-suite and skip the udeb build
[22:04] <mbiebl> export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="nocheck noudeb"
[22:06] <pitti> elbrus: indeed; it either fails with "hostname: Temporary failure in name resolution
[22:06] <pitti> elbrus: or
[22:06] <pitti> ERROR: encoding "UTF8" does not match locale "en_US" DETAIL: The chosen LC_CTYPE
[22:07] <pitti> elbrus: ^ not sure if that's intended and part of the test case?
[22:07] <pitti> elbrus: anyway, I'll have closer look tomorrow morning and reproduce; I might just set it to "always failed" (then it'll promote), but at least figure out some details
[22:08] <pitti> slangasek: libpdl-stats-perl> hm, we shouldn't "lose" results, and britney also tracks them by-trigger; looking at log files
[22:21] <pitti> slangasek: I see two runs for ADT_TEST_TRIGGERS=gsl/2.0+dfsg-1ubuntu1 now -- if you manually triggered once, the other was from britney itself?
[22:21] <pitti> slangasek: could it just have been busy queues?
[22:22] <pitti> capacity and cloud breakage is continuing problem..
[22:22] <pitti> slangasek: actually there's three results
[22:23] <pitti> 2015-11-11 20:09:45, 2015-11-11 19:34:21, and 2015-11-11 19:27:48
[22:23] <pitti> slangasek: so at least the latter was finished before your manual one
[22:35] <leezer3> Looking for a little help here; I appear to have taken over development of an abandoned game, which is available in the Ubuntu repositories, but has a couple of critical bugs, which means it no longer works full-stop for most users.
[22:36] <leezer3> I'm rather unclear as to what/ who I should be talking to to get a patch into the repositories; I've tried mailing the package maintainer, who appears to be MIA, and I've discovered the patch pilot page on the wiki, which has kinda sent me here :)
[22:37] <leezer3> my source is on Github at the minute, and the version that the repos have was behind what I started modifying, so there's a lot of code differences.
[22:38] <leezer3> I don't claim my source is ready for primetime, but I'm looking for help on the process so that when it is, this can be sorted out :)
[23:26] <slangasek> pitti: oh. yes it could have been busy queues; the fact that scheduled tests don't show up on autopkgtest.u.c is rather inconvenient...
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-ops
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[00:19] <bazhang> limcore descendant I see
[00:19] <k1l> lordtux ([email protected]) hat #ubuntu verlassen (requested by k1l (you are still banned tux38))
[00:19] <k1l> that user got a new nick now since i banned the old one
[00:20] <bazhang> 'another day, another ubuntu fail'
[01:11] <Jordan_U> k1l: Any reason you're still opped in #ubuntu?
[01:13] <k1l> DJones: just waited for tux38/lordtux to come back. but my 24h disconnect will deop me anyway :)
[01:25] <phunyguy> k1l: I banned tux in #u-ot with *!*Andro*@107.77.160.*
[01:25] <phunyguy> would probably work for the short term in #u as well
[01:25] <k1l> i already set a dynip ban onto that range, too
[02:45] <phunyguy> k1l: good deal
[03:13] <phunyguy> so, TheEmperor is back with 5.189.166.25/vmi50832.contabo.host
[03:13] <phunyguy> ban on sight
anyone know how to set sudoers to "runaspw"?
[12:55] <bazhang> thats sounding super secure
[14:07] <ikonia> what's runaspw ?
[14:07] <ikonia> ahh, I see what it is, I normally just do that through pam
[14:07] <Pici> man 5 sudoers
[14:08] <ikonia> got it
[14:08] <Pici> Also, kind of weird to ask about a somewhat obsucre option and not know how to set it.
[14:09] <ikonia> think he'd see it mentioned, but not really researched how to actually use it
[14:09] <ikonia> doesn't look too hard from reading the man page
[14:09] <ikonia> but you can do it with pam too
[14:09] <Pici> yep
[14:09] <ikonia> very rare thing to need though
[21:57] <k1l_> uh, didnt think irc can be that difficult.
[21:58] <genii> k1l_: epinky?
[21:58] <k1l_> no, welshman
[21:58] <genii> Ah
[22:03] <bazhang> whats wrong with the welsh!
[22:03] <bazhang> @random cymrru emacs HURD
[22:03] <bazhang> why you ...
[22:03] <Unit193> chu hacked it.
[22:03] <bazhang> god bless you
[22:13] <genii> heh
[22:17] <bazhang> last time the bot went bonkers, chu came in and rubbed in the salt and lemon
[22:22] <JediMaster> hi guys, I'm getting spam about adult websites from Jorge68 as I join #ubuntu
[22:24] <genii> JediMaster: They have now been removed. thanks for reporting the issue
[22:26] <genii> @comment 69869 Spam in PM to users entering the channel
[22:27] <xhoch3> Please see my private conversation with user "retlered":<retlered> you sniveling ass kissing faggot. I've a ubuntu phone and it's great. You fucking liar
I wouldn't take one if it had pussy
?
what you're talking about?
You jackass and your ubuntu phone
keep cool I really like it, not quite as good as an Android phone, but way better than Windows Phone
I can compare all devices at work (test devices)
You nigger. Everybody online says it sucks and so do u
[22:30] <k1l_> xhoch3: ok, i will have a look at it and talk to him.
[22:30] <xhoch3> ok, np, just for the record
[22:34] <JediMaster> genii, thanks
[22:34] <k1l_> xhoch3: ok, that user is an issue but left the ubuntu channels. if he keps beeing an issue please report to #freenode since we cant do anything because he left.
[22:34] <xhoch3> ok, thank you
[22:36] <genii> JediMaster: You're welcome. If you have no more issues which require a moderator to resolve, it would be good etiquette not to idle here now :)
[23:27] <k1l_> @mark #ubuntu alteregoa trolling again
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-arm
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[15:25] <j33p33> HELP!!!
[15:26] <j33p33> i managed to get a perfect 15.04 setup which i cant upgrade
[15:26] <j33p33> worked first time, but i had no apps installed
[15:26] <j33p33> now i cant upgrade for some weird reason
[15:27] <j33p33> anyone willing to help me out figuring what<s conflicting
[15:27] <j33p33> and i have a camera issue as well
[15:27] <j33p33> hardware: orangepi plus
[15:32] <j33p33> anyone willing to help out with my issue?
[15:32] <j33p33> willing to wily
[17:54] <orangepi_> hello
[17:54] <orangepi_> i have a smart question here.
[17:55] <orangepi_> is anyone ready?
[17:55] <orangepi_> do anyone knows how to turn off verbose mode since unbuntu-arm isnt using grub?
[19:35] <orangepi_> hello?
[19:43] <orangepi_> hellllllo
[19:43] <k1l_> !details
[19:44] <orangepi_> this channel is nearly death or what?
[19:45] <genii> It has days of inactivity interspersed with hours of frenzy
[19:45] <k1l_> orangepi_: "hi, i am using ubuntu XX.YY on device <device> and have an issue with <issue>. it brings up that errormessages and logs: pastebin.com/xxxxxx
[19:46] <k1l_> orangepi_: maybe people are waiting for specific questions?
[19:53] <orangepi_> kll: well my language pack simply does not want to install properly
[19:53] <orangepi_> kll: linux ubuntu xenial
[19:53] <orangepi_> kll: i tried some command lines too.
[19:53] <orangepi_> kll: and gnome-language-selector
[19:54] <k1l_> on xenial, there are many alpha state packages now, since its in alpha state
[19:54] <orangepi_> kll: you want me to pastebin the output?
[19:54] <orangepi_> kll: it's the same since i installed vivid vervet image.
[19:55] <orangepi_> kll: it came it english, and since it's arm i dunno, im more used to x86, x64, and PPC
[19:57] <orangepi_> it's an img which i burn to an emmc
[19:59] <k1l_> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale
[20:15] <orangepi_> no success
[21:26] <epinky> does the driver for raspberry pi2 supports muticast traffic?
[21:26] <epinky> support*
[21:28] <genii> epinky: Now the waiting begins! ... this channel is normally fairly quiet, but if someone knows they will eventually answer.
[21:29] <k1l_> might ask in a raspberry pi channel about that.
[21:34] <epinky> k1l_: what is the rpi channel?
[21:34] <epinky> don't worry I got it #raspberrypi
[21:35] <k1l_> epinky: fine :)
[21:48] <epinky> nobody answers there, if this is dristro concerned, maybe you can guide me better
[21:51] <epinky> k1l_: I know raspberry pi2 uses an SMSC95xx, according to the code http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/net/usb/smsc95xx.c only supports multicast when in promiscuous mode. I need some driver that can do this possible, or maybe another USB I can get easily that supports all multicast operations
[22:00] <k1l_> epinky: i dont know about rpi2 or multicast traffic.
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-dz
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[18:05] <ButterflyOfFire> o/
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.234367
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2015-11-11-#bzr
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[15:52] <chris2> abentley: i think we talked past each other... i was talking about storing a new revision. i need to compute a lcs-linewise-diff against the previous revision first, no?
[15:57] <abentley> chris2: Yes, in order to store a new revision, you'd need to reconstruct the previous.
[15:57] <abentley> chris2: Unless you want to do it inefficiently.
[15:57] <chris2> i know how to checkout a revision, i think :)
[15:58] <chris2> but when i want to store a minimal delta, i need to have both contents beforehand i guess
[15:59] <abentley> chris2: You might be able to treat the instructions for constructing the old revision as if they were instructions for creating the new revision, correct them, and then use the corrections to generate instructions for generating the new revision. That's hypothetical.
[16:00] <chris2> that's what i was playing at
[16:02] <abentley> chris2: May I ask why you're interested in weavediffs?
[16:02] <chris2> sure. i'm thinking about a new vcs and wondered if sccs-style weave wouldnt be a good storage for text files
[16:02] <chris2> but i wanted append-only
[16:04] <chris2> otoh git-style packfiles seem to solve the issue easily and more generally with brute force :)
[16:04] <chris2> and i currently dont really care for merging, so...
[16:07] <fullermd> Wasn't the knit format sorta reminiscent of an append-only weave?
[16:07] <chris2> its the evolution of weavediff afaiu
[16:07] <chris2> but i couldnt find details on how it works :)
[16:08] <fullermd> Probably aren't many, outside of the code... Of course, an alternate answer would be "poorly enough that they were superceded for a reason" ;)
[16:10] <chris2> needing to read the file backwards probably is not nice for rotating disks
[16:11] <fullermd> Eh, for reasonable sizes files, you probably just slurp up the whole thing anyway. Heck, for files up to a certain size, that probably happens between hardware and OS prefetch whether you try to or not.
[16:12] <chris2> if you have one weavediff per file, yearh
[16:13] <fullermd> Not so much if it's a hundred megs, to be sure. But then (unless the reconstructed file is most of that anyway) you're probably gonna hit some of the nasty weave cases trying to work with it anyway.
[16:13] <chris2> a naive weave needs linear time to extract, i guess i want to avoid that anywayt
[16:13] <chris2> so you need to store snapshots somehow
[16:16] <abentley> chris2: So there were two advantages of weaves: 1. weave merging, 2. annotation. Knits provided annotation, and we actually found three-way merge worked very well most of the time. These days, with pack files, we do annotation the expensive way, but it's cheap enough if you'd doing it locally.
[16:16] <fullermd> Yeah, experience hasn't been kind to weaves. Seems like they have great properties in reasoning and performance for the things you hardly ever do, while being difficult and compoundingly expensive for the things you wind up doing all the time.
[16:16] <chris2> i mostly have git experience. and annotation is slowish, but usually good enough
[16:16] <chris2> but the store is one of the fastest and most compact i know
[16:17] <chris2> and 3-way-merge works Good Enough, exactly
[16:17] <fullermd> bzr knit formats were certainly a lot better than weave (my daily bzr.dev 'pull's took >20 minutes with weaves), but they still lost the race by a long way...
[16:18] <chris2> so what does bzr use currently? this 2a format? is it explained somewhere?
[16:18] <fullermd> It was once called something like "brisbane-core" while it was in dev. I know there were a number of docs written under that name at the time.
[16:18] <abentley> fullermd: I think my weavediffs would have been better than weaves, but likely worse than knits.
[16:20] <chris2> how does it compare to git packs?
[16:22] <fullermd> I vaguely recall that git uses xdelta or something?
[16:22] <chris2> yeah
[16:22] <chris2> git is sorting all blobs by size and then by date i think, and then doing xdelta chains
[16:22] <abentley> fullermd: I don't think it uses an existing delta format. I remember lifeless invented it on the plane because he didn't have internet access.
[16:23] <fullermd> I think bzr packs are moderately different in implementation, using something more like straight entropy coding, though there's some deltaing on top?
[16:23] <fullermd> Or underneath. Whichever.
[16:23] <fullermd> But that's way out of my depth. I just commit and log stuff :p
[16:23] <chris2> :)
[16:24] <fullermd> There may be some comments in the code giving an overview.
[16:24] <chris2> i'll have a look
[16:25] <fullermd> groupcompress.py is probably the place to start.
[16:26] <abentley> chris2: You also might want to look at docs/groupcompress-design.txt
[16:29] <chris2> very good. thanks
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-no
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[16:22] <OiPenguin> Når jeg forsøker å innstallere ved hjelp av tasksel får jeg følgende feilmelding: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13228390/ Jeg finner ikke en løsning ved å Google. Hva kan jeg gjør? Ubuntu 15.10.
[16:52] <OiPenguin> Jeg glemte 'sudo'. Sorry.
[17:20] <RoyK> ;)
[17:20] <RoyK> ellers kan du jo bare installere med apt install
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.243685
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[09:11] <saoungoumi> .
[09:18] <saoungoumi> bjr ongolaBoy
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[02:36] <daftykins> Hi ubuntulog2!
[02:38] <Anastasius> wut.
[02:38] <Anastasius> Let's see if this gets logged.
[02:39] <Anastasius> Hey fuckfaces. Unban me. Yours truly, Anastasius.
[02:39] <daftykins> Hi Anastasius, do you use Ubuntu and are looking for love?
[02:41] <Anastasius> Nope.
[02:41] <daftykins> Ah.
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2015-11-11-#launchpad
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[09:13] <morphis> currently trying to propose a merge for a git repo in launchpad but getting an error "lp:~morphis/libhybris/+git/libhybris-ubuntu is not mergeable into this repository", can someone help to figure out what the actual problem is?
[09:17] <morphis> cjwatson: can you help me?
[09:28] <wgrant> morphis: Which repository are you trying to merge into?
[09:28] <morphis> wgrant: https://code.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/+git/libhybris
[09:28] <morphis> https://code.launchpad.net/~morphis/libhybris/+git/libhybris-ubuntu/+ref/wip is the branch I want to merge
[09:28] <morphis> basically just trying it for now ..
[09:29] <wgrant> morphis: https://code.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/+git/libhybris isn't in any project.
[09:29] <wgrant> It's a personal branch unrelated to a project.
[09:29] <wgrant> The owner should visit https://code.launchpad.net/~libhybris-maintainers/+git/libhybris/+edit and switch it from "Personal" into the libhybris project, which will change the URL and allow merge proposals.
[09:30] <morphis> so you can only merge into projects?
[09:30] <morphis> wgrant: thanks, that worked: https://code.launchpad.net/~morphis/libhybris/+git/libhybris-ubuntu/+merge/277220
[09:31] <wgrant> You can only merge between repositories in the same context.
[09:31] <wgrant> Context being project or package.
[09:31] <morphis> I see, that wasn't clear for me before
[09:31] <wgrant> +git is the Git equivalent of Bazaar's +junk.
[09:32] <morphis> wgrant: there is a lp:libhybris for bzr
[09:32] <morphis> what is the equivalent for git?
[09:32] <morphis> as right now it looks like this: https://code.launchpad.net/libhybris/+git
[09:33] <wgrant> morphis: https://code.launchpad.net/libhybris/+configure-code is the relevant page.
[09:33] <wgrant> There you can choose the default VCS, and the Bazaar branch and Git repository that get the short name.
[09:33] <wgrant> The default VCS chooses which list is displayed by default.
[09:33] <morphis> ok
[09:34] <wgrant> Git doesn't natively support lp: like Bazaar does, but you can configure it to know about it.
[09:34] <morphis> wgrant: yeah, that is what I did
[09:34] <wgrant> Setting the default repository makes "git clone https://git.launchpad.net/libhybris" etc. work.
[09:35] <morphis> wgrant: lp:libhybris currently is a auto-import branch, what is the way to deal with them when you decide to switch a project over completely to git? they just go away and would probably stay as an upstream branch?
[09:35] <wgrant> morphis: Well, it sort of fades into obscurity once you change the default, unless someone hits the "View Bazaar branches" link.
[09:38] <morphis> ok
[11:27] <sidi> A quick question about copying packages in a PPA and having Launchpad rebuild them from source.. I get the following error message: same version already has published binaries in the destination archive
[11:27] <sidi> Does that mean that when rebuilding, I *must* select another PPA since identical versions are not allowed?
[11:28] <sidi> I don't want to just copy the binary packages because I want to make sure they build properly (i.e. no deps changed)
[11:32] <cjwatson> sidi: right, in any given archive, files of the same name may only exist once
[11:33] <cjwatson> sidi: if you copied within the same archive and asked to rebuild, you'd end up with pool/main/f/foo/foo_1.0-1_amd64.deb needing to exist twice with different contents
[11:33] <cjwatson> sidi: so your choices are (a) don't rebuild (b) use a different PPA (c) upload with a different version rather than copying
[11:34] <sidi> cjwatson, thanks, will go with (c). It'd be awesome to have an option to rebuild and just bump the version number (ppax -> ppax+1) though, would have saved me 30-60 minutes :-)
[15:22] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/225818700/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-ppc64el.amide_1.0.5-4ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz <- this looks weird
[15:27] <cjwatson> there are a few known memory corruption issues with the power builders - the incidence is rare but sadly non-zero
[15:29] <cjwatson> Laney: I've asked IS to investigate in case of obvious dmesg spam, but in the meantime I suggest just retrying
[15:29] <Laney> cjwatson: Will do - you don't need to keep any state?
[15:30] <cjwatson> Laney: I've extracted the relevant state, i.e. builder and build start time
[15:30] <cjwatson> but thanks for checking
[15:30] <Laney> Nod, okay
[15:30] <cjwatson> doubt anything else is relevant, I mean it go bang
[15:31] <Laney> I saw a similar one earlier but I retried that without checking
[15:31] <Laney> my bad
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2015-11-11-#kubuntu
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[00:06] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Whats the best desktop recording software for KDE these days?
[00:06] <sithlord48> i have used krecordmydesktop
[00:08] <hazamonzo> sithlord48: oddly enough i just installed the recordmydesktop (without the k at the begining) and i can't seem to find it in my laucher menu
[00:08] <sithlord48> iirc its a terminal program w/ a qt or gtk front end
[00:09] <hazamonzo> sithlord48: oh right
[00:09] <hazamonzo> just ran it and it was recording from the commandline
[00:09] <hazamonzo> know... thats cool but i remember a better applications that allowed me to have a UI with options... :s
[00:10] <sithlord48> the options can be set via the front end.
[00:10] <sithlord48> perhaps it was one of them
[00:10] <hazamonzo> sithlord48: hmmm... maybe thats the different between krecordmydesktop and recordmydesktop
[00:11] <hazamonzo> I can't seem to find krecordmydesktop in the repo
[00:11] <sithlord48> or maybe it was record it now
[00:12] <hazamonzo> hmmm that sounds familiar
[00:12] <sithlord48> record it now "a plugin based desktop recorder for KDE SC4"
[00:12] <hazamonzo> I can't seem to find that in the repo either
[00:12] <hazamonzo> Weird!
[00:13] <sithlord48> im on arch atm . iirc on kubuntu i had to add a ppa
[00:13] <hazamonzo> I'll do a bit of googling then
[00:13] <hazamonzo> Thanks sithlord48!
[00:14] <sithlord48> there is also on arch a qt-recordmydesktop package ( a qt front end for record my desktop)
[00:14] <sithlord48> so you can try that also if you can't find record it now
[01:50] <excalibr> Is it possible to set specific display to use for a particular Activity?
[01:51] <excalibr> Simonious, hazamonzo
[03:13] <finetundra_> hey folks, how do I set a static IP?
[03:13] <finetundra_> I'm using XFCE if that helps
[03:15] <finetundra_> oh god, wrong channel
[05:06] <MelRay> Anyone know of a how to on setting up a live web server? I have a domain and dons is setup. all the articles I see use local host instead of a domain
[09:21] <yossarianuk> hey - does this KDE update fix the slow login problem with 15.10 ? -> https://dot.kde.org/2015/11/10/kde-ships-plasma-543-bugfix-release-november
[09:27] <yossarianuk> i.e the main issue with 15.10 now is it takes ages to login to KDE - during which time (about 20 -30 secs) the desktop is unusable and the taskbar icons are not correctly positioned...
[09:27] <yossarianuk> if anyone aware if plasma 5.4.3 fixes this ?
[09:29] <yossarianuk> OpenSuse 42.1 (leap) doesn't have the issue btw (I thought it was the same version of plasma shipped with 15.10
[09:33] <kdefanno6> yossarianuk: you mean this one:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/+bug/1509334 ?
[09:37] <younes_> salut
[09:38] <younes_> pourquoi le son coupe tres souvent dans mon kubuntu je dois a chaque fois redemmarer mon pc pour qui remarche
[09:39] <younes_> svp aider moi
[09:45] <yossarianuk> kdefanno6: possibly
[09:45] <yossarianuk> kdefanno6: It sounds like it
[09:45] <yossarianuk> kdefanno6: Its a terrible impression for new users....
[09:45] <yossarianuk> the task bar is garbled until it fully loads ... Looks like KDE is broken.
[09:46] <yossarianuk> cool - I see update is out today
[09:46] <yossarianuk> Will test !
[09:47] <younes_> il y a pas quelqu'un qui peut me parler en français?
[09:48] <hateball> !fr | younes_
[09:49] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:13] <jonah> hi I just wondered if anyone could please help with a broken system. I upgraded from 14.10 and now get a kernel panic. I can boot from the older 4.0 kernel just not the new 4.2... I've tried repair mode in grub and also dpkg reconfigure but so far no luck...
[10:14] <s_20> yossarianuk: as in the fix will be in kubuntu today or upstream fixed it?
[10:14] <s_20> i don't have problems like that on my machines at home running on debian unstable :\
[10:14] <akram> hi
[10:15] <akram> i have questione pls
[10:15] <Guest45185> how many versions in kubuntu?
[10:16] <yossarianuk> s_20: it seemed to be introduced just before 15.10 release
[10:16] <yossarianuk> I had been running 15.10 for about 2 months before release with no issues until about a week before release date.
[10:16] <yossarianuk> Guest45185: Can you confirm what you mean ?
[10:17] <Guest45185> i wanna knew about all the versions
[10:18] <Guest45185> can you help me please
[10:24] <yossarianuk> Guest45185: versions of what ?
[10:24] <yossarianuk> Guest45185: do you mean support version of Kubuntu?
[10:24] <yossarianuk> *supported*
[10:30] <Guest45185> yes
[10:30] <Guest45185> yes sir
[10:30] <Guest45185> can i knew about that
[10:30] <Guest45185> please
[10:32] <hateball> !lts
[10:32] <hateball> !wily
[10:32] <hateball> That's it
[10:33] <yossarianuk> 15.04 is support for about 3 months also
[10:33] <yossarianuk> no point installing it though. use 15.10
[10:42] <Guest45185> so kubuntu and ubuntu are the same ?
[10:43] <hateball> Guest45185: Just different default packages
[10:45] <Guest45185> okay . so , kubuntu has more the 12 suppoet versions ?
[11:07] <yossarianuk> Guest45185: no
[11:07] <yossarianuk> Guest45185: the supported versions as of now are 15.04, 15.10 and 14.04 LTS
[11:24] <songfellow1> « /msg nickserv register chaos3 [email protected]
[11:26] <rom1504> songfellow1: try again
[11:44] <songfellow1> /msg nickserv register chaos3 [email protected]
[12:12] <dv_> in kubuntu 14.10 , I had gcr-prompter installed, and whenever I pulled something with git, its graphical prompter came up, asking me for the ssh key passphrase. it loaded that key into the resident ssh-agent.
[12:13] <dv_> in kubuntu 15.10, this doesn't work anymore. I tried setting SSH_ASKPASS, GIT_ASKPASS, core.askpass in gitconfig, nothing works. it still asks me every time the passphrase, and does _not_ automatically insert the key into the ssh-agent.
[12:13] <dv_> any ideas?
[12:45] <jonah> any body around that can help fix an unbootable system? Well it boots from an old kernel, but can't get it to update properly or boot from the newest. also dist-upgrade hasn't finished properly but dpkg reconfigure gives an error.
[12:47] <kdefanno6> jonah: remove the newest then, and use the old one.
[12:49] <jonah> kdefanno6: Hi thanks, but it's also stopping other updates happening...
[12:50] <rvk> hi all
[12:52] <trixi> hi
[13:48] <Wiz-TDD> hi there
[13:48] <Wiz-TDD> I just installed kubuntu 15.10 and I see a few problems : xchat does not appear in the miniature zone when minimised
[13:49] <Wiz-TDD> I installed hexchat, same result
[13:49] <Wiz-TDD> skype appears
[13:49] <s_20> Wiz-TDD: by "minituare zone" you mean the systray?
[13:50] <jubo2> Hi.
[13:50] <s_20> if that's the case, it's up to each program to do that or not, nothing happens automatically
[13:50] <jubo2> Got a 14.04 that's been out of the game for half an year
[13:50] <jubo2> what's the best procedure to get it to latest
[13:51] <jubo2> I mean do I run 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' before the dist-upgrade ?
[13:51] <Wiz-TDD> sorry had to kill hexchat as I minimized it :(
[13:51] <s_20> 13:49 < s_20> Wiz-TDD: by "minituare zone" you mean the systray?
[13:51] <s_20> 13:50 < s_20> if that's the case, it's up to each program to do that or not, nothing happens automatically
[13:52] <Wiz-TDD> s_20 not sure I need to check, I am using it in French,
[13:52] <s_20> oh boy.
[13:53] <kdefanno6> Wiz-TDD: probably related to this: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ and potential solution in the future: http://blog.davidedmundson.co.uk/blog/xembed_back
[13:54] <s_20> kdefanno6: if his minimised programs are *gone* he might have removed the task manager widget accidentally
[13:54] <Wiz-TDD> kdefanno6, looking at the links, thank you, i'll let you know after i read
[13:55] <Wiz-TDD> s_20, the processes are still running once "gone" from the systray, but can't have them appearing again
[13:55] <Wiz-TDD> so i kill them and restart :s
[13:55] <s_20> Wiz-TDD: well, *do* you still ahve the task manager widget?
[13:57] <Wiz-TDD> s_20, as I'm using it in french, I'm not sure what you call the task manager widget : I have all the widgets from the "standard" installation
[13:57] <Wiz-TDD> on the bottom right, sound/network/powermgmt/instant msg/etc
[13:58] <Wiz-TDD> s_20, main part of the bottom bar, the applications "icons"
[13:59] <Wiz-TDD> (clicking on them shows or minimises the application window
[13:59] <Wiz-TDD> :'((((((((((((((
[14:00] <s_20> Wiz-TDD: well, soundsl ike you still have the task manager
[14:01] <s_20> but as pointed out in the link from kdefanno6, you probably don't have libappindicator1 and libappindicator3-1 installed
[14:01] <s_20> as (he)xchat uses gtk and not qt, like skype does, that might be a problem
[14:02] <Wiz-TDD> I'm looking at it
[14:04] <hateball> jubo2: there is no way from 14.04 to 15.10, if that is what you are asking
[14:04] <hateball> jubo2: wait for 16.04, then you can upgrade straight to that
[14:04] <s_20> hateball: what do you mean 'there is no way'?
[14:04] <jubo2> I think I can choose to update to non-LTS somewhere
[14:05] <hateball> s_20: No supported way
[14:05] <hateball> You'd need to upgrade to 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10, and 14.10 is EOL so the repos will not work
[14:05] <jubo2> maybe this is 14.10
[14:06] <jubo2> where do I check
[14:06] <hateball> jubo2: "lsb_release -a"
[14:06] <jubo2> 14.04
[14:07] <hateball> The least painful option is to wait for next april
[14:08] <wuschLOR> can somebody help me with some pgp and thunderbird problems can't decrypt mails anymore
[14:08] <melray> Ok so why doesn't find locate httpd.conf? find: `name=httpd.conf': No such file or directory
[14:09] <s_20> hateball: that does seem like a major design flaw
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:11] <Wiz-TDD> s_20: konversation, available in kubuntu baseline seem to work for me... so I guess I will just use that one
[14:12] <s_20> Wiz-TDD: did you try to install these packages?
[14:13] <Wiz-TDD> s_20: nope, but I do not see the interest as this icr app looks as good as xchat/hexchat
[14:16] <Gamayun> wuschLOR: Since when are you unable to decrypt mails?
[14:16] <Simonious> excalibr: specific screen..? what? is this a #screen question?
[14:17] <hateball> s_20: It's just to do with being able to support various versions
[14:18] <s_20> hateball: well it wouldn't hurt anyone to leave old repistory's as-is
[14:19] <hateball> !eolupgrade | s_20
[14:19] <s_20> hateball: i get that
[14:20] <s_20> it just leaves people who have an outdated machine and want to re-activate it hanging high and dry
[14:20] <s_20> which, for lack of a better word, seems kind of un-linux-y
[14:35] <jubo2> Heyyy.
[14:35] <jubo2> How do I enable that I see what the system is loading when it is stating up?
[14:36] <jubo2> Call me oldfashioned but I like GNU/Linukka that way
[14:36] <hateball> jubo2: edit out "quiet splash" in grub
[14:37] <jubo2> /etc/grub or something thereabouts..
[14:37] <jubo2> thanks hateball
[14:39] <hateball> jubo2: /etc/defaults/grub and then rebuild the grub config
[14:39] <hateball> err, /etc/default/grub
[14:41] <jubo2> ok commented it out
[14:41] <jubo2> hateball: how do I "rebuild" the config?
[14:41] <hateball> jubo2: sudo update-grub
[14:41] <hateball> err
[14:41] <hateball> you dont want to comment the whole line out iirc
[14:42] <hateball> I think it expects: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[14:42] <jubo2> ok
[14:42] <hateball> but I may be wrong !
[14:43] <hateball> (thats what I am using tho)
[14:43] <jubo2> ok
[14:43] <jubo2> I reboot
[14:46] <regedit> so how is the new release?
[14:46] <regedit> i'm still on 15.04 for now, until i hear stability
[15:11] <jubo2> I need to make reports of httpd logs
[15:11] <jubo2> once upon a time I used analog
[15:11] <jubo2> but that is too hassle to configure
[15:11] <jubo2> any suggestions?
[15:15] <lordievader> Logwatch?
[15:15] <jubo2> lordievader: doesn't appear in Muon discoverer
[15:16] <lordievader> No, it is a package. Not an application, for as far as Muon is concerned.
[15:16] <lordievader> jubo2: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-use-logwatch-log-analyzer-and-reporter-on-a-vps
[15:19] <jubo2> lordievader: I think I want an offline tool
[15:19] <jubo2> another issue
[15:19] <lordievader> Logwatch is an offline tool.
[15:20] <jubo2> Got a 32-bit 14.04 that holds nothing of value. I think I want to install 64-bit 15.10 on it
[15:21] <jubo2> the problem is that it has a maximum of 2GB RAM
[15:21] <jubo2> will it run satisfactorily?
[15:21] <jubo2> I gather I cannot upgrade 32-bit to 64-bit
[15:21] <jubo2> without installing clean
[15:21] <lordievader> You won't notice a difference.
[15:21] <jubo2> in the mem usage lordievader?
[15:22] <lordievader> jubo2: There is a slight difference, but, in general, unnoticable.
[15:22] <jubo2> Ok.
[15:22] <jubo2> I think I installfest tonite
[15:51] <jubo2> ohnoes
[15:51] <jubo2> something borked my kmail
[15:51] <jubo2> I didn't touch it
[15:51] <jubo2> It no longer lists messages by date even if I instruct it to
[15:52] <jubo2> rather the messages are grouped by sender
[15:52] <jubo2> yeah.. really handy if you want to view all messages by sender X but I'd really rather just see my mail sorted by arrival time
[16:28] <jubo2> I'm not seeing a wifi station in 32-bit Kubuntu14.04 that other OS see quite well
[16:28] <jubo2> Could this be an issue with some drivers or firmware not being up-to-date in the 32-bit ?
[16:38] <lolmaus> Hi! On 15.10 and ThinkPad T430 (top CPU, GPU Intel 4000, SSD, 16GB RAM, no swap), my Google Chrome is extremely laggy, suffers from jerky scrolling and fails to redraw when scrolling or switching between taps. What can I do to resolve the issue?
[16:39] <jubo2> I'm pretty sure the Atom processor I have in the netbook is 64-bit but not 100% sure. How do I check?
[17:20] <aramiscd> i believe, there are no 32bit atom processors. wikipedia knows for sure.
[17:29] <lordievader> Weren't the older ones (first gen) 32 bit?
[17:58] <mparillo> It might be something I am doing wrong, but I know my netbook with an Atom N550 seems unable to boot a 64-bit distro.
[18:10] <melray> Hi running kubuntu 15.10 when I use alt+F2 and issue the command kdesudo dolphin I get the password prompt and enter it...then nothing happens..i.e. doesn't start dolphin. Anyone know why this might be?
[18:16] <mparillo> It works for me on the daily build, but none of the icons load. And when I picked the detailed tree view, the icons to expand the directories looked different.
[18:22] <josharenson> what is the best way to install kde along side unity? I installed (via apt-get) kubuntu-desktop, but now the two greeters are literally fighting each other
[18:23] <jaafar> hey peeps
[18:23] <jaafar> anyone experimented much with webcams and chat apps?
[18:23] <jaafar> Skype recognizes my webcam but HipChat does not
[18:24] <jaafar> josharenson: I believe the "greeters" (if you mean things like kdm, lightdm etc.) are supposed to be able to launch the desktop system of your choice, i.e., but at least somewhat agnostic
[18:24] <jaafar> not sure about config
[18:24] <jaafar> I use lightdm
[18:24] <jaafar> I remember there being a little menu at login
[18:25] <josharenson> jaafar: yeah I'm actually developing a new greeter which is why I wanted to install multiple DEs in the first place... whats happening now is that I see the unity greeter for a few frames, and then the kde greeter for a few frames
[18:25] <jaafar> oh nice
[18:25] <jaafar> Oh that's cuckoo
[18:25] * jaafar has never seen that
[18:25] <josharenson> jaafar: I'll check that the display manager is set to something reasonable though...
[18:26] <josharenson> good starting point
[18:26] <josharenson> jaafar: its in a VM, but I saw it on my real machine as well
[18:31] <jubo2> Hiya.. Trying to install Kubuntu15.10 64-bit on a system with an Atom CPU and installation hangs in the "prepare" stage. Red-blue circly thing just rotates for minutes and minutes
[18:31] <jubo2> What could be wrong?
[18:32] <jubo2> I'm almost sure it is a 64-bit CPU but not quite certain
[18:32] <jubo2> ahh.. now it passed on to next stage. cancel all questions
[18:37] <mparillo> jubo2: Good luck. As I said, my Atom N550 will not boot a 64-bit distro for me, but many Atoms can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom_(CPU)#Intel_64_software_support
[18:39] <jubo2> now it stopped and complained of either corrupt installation media or corrupt installation target
[18:39] <jubo2> I change stick and try again
[18:40] <jubo2> for weird reasons I have 2 sticks with the Kubuntu15.10 installer
[18:59] <jubo2> Whoops..
[18:59] <jubo2> forgot to plug in my external sound card at install time
[18:59] <jubo2> is there way to detect and add it after installation is over
[19:00] <jubo2> or do I just open another beer and install again, this time with the sound card plugged in?
[19:00] <genii> If it's USB should just recognize it
[19:01] <genii> ( when you plug it in)
[19:01] <jubo2> it is USB
[19:16] <jubo2> genii: so it seems
[19:16] <jubo2> the card works fine when I plug it in
[19:18] <jubo2> I want to copy the settings from this fully configured Kubuntu to the newly installed Kubuntu
[19:18] <jubo2> if that is sane
[19:19] <jubo2> I grab ~/.local/ ?
[19:21] <genii> and probablt ~/.kde
[19:21] <genii> *probably
[19:22] <jubo2> ok
[19:57] <encolpe_> Hello
[19:57] <encolpe_> I want to know how to refresh KDE menu icons
[19:58] <encolpe_> I still have icons dating from the installtion, 2 years ago
[19:58] <denza252> which kubu version?
[19:58] <encolpe_> 15.10
[19:59] <denza252> encolpe_: is it using Plasma workspaces or Plasma 5
[20:01] <encolpe_> denza252: good question
[20:02] <denza252> encolpe_: you mentioned that it was installed 2 years ago
[20:02] <denza252> so I'm assuming you updated it from like, 13.something
[20:02] <encolpe_> from 13.10, yes
[20:03] <encolpe_> plasma desktop 5.4
[20:04] <denza252> whoa, good job first of all
[20:04] <denza252> whenever I try updating my system breaks :x
[20:04] <encolpe_> I'm trying to check
[20:04] <denza252> second, encolpe_, is it just your menu which has old icons?
[20:04] <encolpe_> I took me one week to repair cryptsetup
[20:06] <encolpe_> Yes
[20:06] <jubo2> denza252: I managed to 15.04 -> 15.10 with only couple of days of swearing
[20:06] <encolpe_> firefox has loose its icon, too
[20:07] <denza252> hmm
[20:07] <encolpe_> For the history, i'm migrating debian systems since 1996 (10 years with sid before coming on ubuntu)
[20:08] <denza252> encolpe_: try kbuildsycoca5--noincremental
[20:11] <denza252> encolpe_: er, there should be a space between kbuildsycoa5 and --noincremental
[20:11] <encolpe_> yes :)
[20:12] <svend-ev> Good morning
[20:12] <jubo2> g'moring svend-ev
[20:39] <encolpe_> denza252: All icons that are in /usr/share/pixmaps are not shown in the menu
[20:46] <encolpe_> is there place where an icon path is set ?
[21:37] <schestowitz> Hi, I've searched youtube, google etc. for this but was unable to find an answer. Are stopped activities still a functionality in Plasma 5? I've just upgraded to the latest kf5 (been using it for 8 months) and all I see next to activities is an "X", no "stop" button, and clicking the X gets everything buddy and I need to restart plasma-desktop as a whole
[21:37] <schestowitz> /s/buddy/buggy/
[21:41] <schestowitz> Is the "X" the way to stop an activity at all? Some online forums suggested so, and the global keyboard shortcut, meta+S, does nothing
[21:41] <Gamayun> schestowitz: The X is to stop the activities. Once they are stopped they'll get a trashcan icon instead, if you want to delete them. Dunno about the buggyness.
[21:42] <schestowitz> Maybe it's just me, I'm not even sure how to describe such a bug
[21:43] <Gamayun> What happens when you click the X? Crashing, freezing?
[21:43] <schestowitz> to reproduce it I guess it takes my setup, which isn't unique. the activities thing showing vertically is just hanging, or become transparent and permanently covering everything. it has been like this since April when I first moved to kf5 (upgraded many time since, to no avail)
[21:44] <schestowitz> technically, nothing happens when suggests that the activity got stopped, and then the "Activities" thing (along the side) just gets stuck, I wonder if I'm only among few experienceing and if so, what we have in common
[21:44] <schestowitz> as it hasn't been fixed since April at the latest
[21:45] <schestowitz> is meta+S supposed to work?
[21:45] <schestowitz> It has absolutely no effect when I click it, even when I set up an alternative keyboard shortcut and use that
[21:46] <schestowitz> I use the just-released KDE/Plasma... from backported repo... which behaves the same way every plasma built prior to this behaved.
[21:47] <Gamayun> Hm, might be worthwile putting up a bug report for it. Activities are working pretty smoothly here. Except the meta-s shortcut, but it might be enough to change the shortcut.
[21:47] <schestowitz> I've just reproduced this again. In this build, the whole of plasma becomes unresponsive, clicking even the panel has no effect
[21:48] <schestowitz> and Activities freezed where it was when "X" was clicked.
[21:49] <schestowitz> I tried submitting a bug report, but not sure what to submit that will help reproduce it
[21:50] <schestowitz> Do you use activity icon? Might this have anything to do with causing the bug?
[21:51] <schestowitz> I'll see if I can come up with a useful report. All I can say for now is, always buggy for me, necessitating restart of the whole of plasma.. :-(
[23:33] <MichaelTun> how do you install the latest version of Plasma? I mean 5.4.3 is brand new almost, I am just curious if Kubuntu 15.10 will get it normally or would I need a PPA for it?
[23:34] <MichaelTun> I still have a few minor bugs with plasma 5.4 so hopefully the latest version squashes those.
[23:42] <clivejo> MichaelTun: See this blog - http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2015/kubuntu-kde-5-4-3-bugfix-release-available-now-in-wily-backports/
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[00:20] <bush> is there a set of comprehensive documentation on creating a ubuntu core port for a custom board that anyone knows of?
[00:21] <frecel> bush: I couldn't find anything, it would be nice if something like this existed
[00:22] <bush> I'm stuck trying to figure out how to include device specific bootloaders (FSBL, u-boot, etc.)
[00:22] <frecel> bush: what device are you working on?
[00:22] <bush> zynq
[00:23] <frecel> bush: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/porting/
[00:23] <bush> the target is ARM Cortex-A9, similar to BBB and RPi
[00:23] <frecel> I managed to find something
[00:24] <bush> I've followed that and exhausted a few other (outdated) guides, blogs, etc.
[00:25] <bush> It seems the documentation isn't moving as quickly as the development, as I'm sure we've all been guilty of.
[00:27] <frecel> yeah, this seems to be the common case for fast moving projects
[01:21] <sergiusens> bush, where are you stuck wrt bootloader setup?
[01:21] <jeffesquivels> bush: zynq? that's cool... I'm interested in the FPGA part of it
[01:21] <jeffesquivels> bush: I think that's what the snickerdoodle has
[01:22] <jeffesquivels> (sorry about being OT, he he)
[01:35] <bush> sergiusens: I can't figure out how to specify a bootloader or .dtb within a device package when building an image with 'ubuntu-device-flash'
[01:43] <sergiusens> bush, you need to create an oem snap and pass --oem to u-d-f
[01:43] <sergiusens> one sec
[01:44] <sergiusens> bush, something like http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-systems/files/head:/beagleblack/
[01:58] <bush> sergiusens: I just include the oem snap within the device package under /assets?
[02:24] <sergiusens> bush, hmm, /assets in a device package is long gone
[02:24] <sergiusens> bush, where is this info coming from?
[02:24] <sergiusens> jdstrand, do you know why I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13222977/ ?
[02:25] <bush> sergiusens: One of the outdated guides I've been disecting: https://ograblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/25/porting-ubuntu-snappy-to-a-yet-unsupported-armhf-board/
[02:25] <sergiusens> bush, oh, that is indeed old
[02:26] <sergiusens> ogra_, add a not mentioning it is outdated :-P
[02:27] <bush> sergiusens: Exploring the BBB package made me think the format was still relevant: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/porting/
[02:27] <sergiusens> bush, you need to create a snap out of what I just gave you and do ubuntu-device-flash ... --oem <thesnap> ...
[02:28] <sergiusens> the yaml is indeed outdated
[02:29] <sergiusens> bush, use this as a base http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily-preinstalled/current/xenial-preinstalled-core-armhf.device.tar.gz
[02:30] <bush> seriusens: awesome, thanks.
[02:30] <sergiusens> change $arch if relevant
[04:16] <soffokl> Hey guys, we still have big problems with disk IO on Ubuntu Snappy for virtualbox.
[04:16] <soffokl> Disk blocked sometimes without any reasons, even just copying file.
[04:16] <soffokl> http://s23.postimg.org/byhfb9g57/Screenshot_from_2015_11_11_10_03_18.png
[04:16] <soffokl> dmesg shows following http://pastebin.com/M96u8Che
[04:16] <soffokl> We are using SSD only systems and disk on host system not loaded.
[04:16] <soffokl> There is no such problems with other OS on virtualbox.
[04:16] <soffokl> Checked on different hardware with 15.04, 15.10, 14.04, same results.
[04:17] <soffokl> ogra_, Chipaca please help us, we have no idea about direction to dig
[06:39] <liuxg> I have a simple snappy project at https://github.com/liu-xiao-guo/go-webserver. If I do not want to use "source: git://github.com/liu-xiao-guo/golang-http" in the snapcraft.yaml to compile the go. Instead, I want to make the source code locally. how can I modify the snapcraft.yaml file?
[06:47] <mvo> liuxg: hm, does the line "source: /home/liuxg/path/to/golang-http" work?
[06:48] <liuxg> mvo, I am not sure about it. Let me try it. thanks
[06:51] <liuxg> mvo, it does not seem to work http://paste.ubuntu.com/13225257/
[06:52] <liuxg> mvo, we have examples to show how to pull the sources, but it does not show how to compile a project whose sources are local.
[06:54] <mvo> liuxg: interessting, what version of snapcraft is that? the code has examples for local sources, e.g. "source: ." or "source: my-app". however no absolute paths in the examples, so maybe thats the problem
[06:54] <mvo> liuxg: could you try a relative path and put the source inside the dir? let me try to find you an example
[06:55] <liuxg> mvo, snapcraft (0.4). it shall be latest.
[06:55] <mvo> liuxg: yeah, that should be fine. here is a trivial example with local source https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/tree/master/integration-tests/data/local-source
[06:56] <mvo> liuxg: and here is one that uses a subdir https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/tree/master/integration-tests/data/simple-maven
[06:56] <mvo> liuxg: maybe thats helpful? i.e. put the snapcraft.yaml directly into your go source and use "source: ."?
[06:57] <liuxg> mvo, this is the result of it http://paste.ubuntu.com/13225279/
[06:58] <liuxg> mvo, do you mean that i need to move my snapcraft to the source code directory?
[06:59] <liuxg> mvo, for go, I need to have a directory name to come out the final binary name, right?
[07:00] <mvo> liuxg: hm, something funny is going on there, let me finish my current task and branch your code, it really should not crash like this
[07:01] <liuxg> mvo, ok. thanks for your help. I think it is a common practice to have the code locally. Once everything is fine, then it is pushed to the github or whatever.
[07:02] <mvo> liuxg: yeah and its supported in general, seems like there is a bug in the detection of whats local
[07:03] <liuxg> mvo, right. please let me the result of your testing. thanks
[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[07:44] <liuxg> mvo, do you have any findings?
[08:06] <mvo> liuxg: sorry, got distracted. I think its a bug in the go plugin code, I'm investigating a bit now
[08:08] <liuxg> mvo, oK. thanks for the help. by the way, do we need to report a bug for it?
[08:08] <mvo> liuxg: I think a bugreport is prudent, yes. at least it should not crash
[08:09] <liuxg> mvo, OK. so, I just report a bug against for snapcraft at https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+filebug
[08:09] <mvo> ta
[08:13] <liuxg> mvo, I have reported the bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1515132
[08:14] <dholbach> liuxg, I think snapcraft might more be a thing for sergiusens and tedg to answer
[08:14] <liuxg> dholbach, it is alright. I will check it with them later on :)
[08:16] <mvo> liuxg: yeah, I poked it a bit but it seems like there is more to it, i.e. seting up a go workspace or copying it into the go workspace etc
[08:17] <liuxg> mvo, setting a go env is straightforward. apt-get install golang, it will install everything, I think.
[10:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Armistice Day! 😃
[10:26] <longsleep> What is the best way to report and discuss security issues with Snappy?
[10:36] <ogra_> file bugs
[10:49] <Chipaca> longsleep: use the 'security' flag when filing the bug
[10:49] <Chipaca> soffokl: uh, ouch?
[10:50] <Chipaca> soffokl: are these errors in the host's dmesg, or in the vm's dmesg?
[11:04] <soffokl> Chipaca, on vm's dmesg
[11:07] <Chipaca> soffokl: from googling the error it seems to have something to do with weird disc configurations
[11:07] <Chipaca> bah. "weird" for a vm or an iot thing
[11:07] <Chipaca> like raid 6 on sas
[11:08] <Chipaca> soffokl: e.g. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/34173/mptscsih-ioc0-task-abort-success-rv-2002-causes-30-seconds-freezing
[11:10] <ogra_> especially since you wouldnt have a raid6 in snappy :)
[11:11] <ogra_> why is that driver even loaded inside the VM
[11:11] <Chipaca> dunno if it's raid6 :)
[11:11] <Chipaca> but it seems to be sas
[11:11] <Chipaca> which, sure, should work, but no idea how good/bad virtualbox's sas driver thing is
[11:12] <Chipaca> also, always be suspicious of expensive storage hardware that just happens to have the same name as a secret agency
[11:12] <Chipaca> :-p
[11:13] <soffokl> my vm is just OVA from Snappy website
[11:14] <soffokl> on the host system only single ssd
[11:15] <Chipaca> soffokl: i don't know who or how we build those; could you look up how it's set up? in the vb settings i mean?
[11:17] <soffokl> Chipaca, I tried to change every settings that i found in vm configuration, nothing changed
[11:18] <soffokl> Actually, we found workaround, we converting img for KVM from Snappy page to vmdk and using it for virtual box. And it works fine :)
[11:19] <ogra_> hmm, interesting
[11:22] <soffokl> for OVA even copying 500MB file into VM freeze several times
[11:23] <Chipaca> ogra_: do you know who builds the ova?
[11:23] <Chipaca> sounds like something they need to know about
[11:24] <Chipaca> aha!
[11:24] <Chipaca> soffokl: bug in virtualbox
[11:24] <Chipaca> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10031
[11:25] <ogra_> Chipaca, no, i dont
[11:25] <ogra_> i'd expect the cloud people
[11:25] <soffokl> Chipaca, Opened 4 years ago, hmmm
[13:13] <frecel> ogra_: do you know anything about anyone actively working on a snappy build for intel edison?
[13:13] <ogra_> frecel, nope, i dont ... i know that lool took a look at it ages ago and there were probs
[13:16] <frecel> do you know when loop tends to hang out on irc?
[13:20] <longsleep> Is there some gear so a snap can run its own config hook, or should that be handled by the snap internall?
[13:20] <longsleep> i have a chicken egg issue, and need to make sure the config hook was run at least once before start
[13:20] <longsleep> before start of a service in the snap i mean
[13:25] <ogra_> longsleep, make it touch a stampfile, add a check for the stampfile to the startup script
[13:26] <longsleep> ogra_: yeah, but how do i run the config hook from the startup script? Directly?
[13:27] <ogra_> thats what i do
[13:27] <ogra_> if there is no initial config file i run the config.sh script once in my snap
[13:27] <longsleep> ok, i was wondering if there is a way to trigger whatever "snappy config" is doing
[13:28] <longsleep> yeah makes sense, i can certainly do that
[13:28] <ogra_> snappy config only pipes strings into your hook anyway
[13:28] <ogra_> or rather "a string"
[13:28] <ogra_> :)
[13:28] <longsleep> right, but maybe it does or will do something more
[13:29] <ogra_> i think there was a bug open to restart the service once it applies a config, but that wont affect you on first start
[13:29] <ogra_> thats the only planned enhancement i know about
[13:29] <longsleep> ogra_: yes, i think i created that bug
[13:29] <longsleep> ok
[13:29] <longsleep> fair enough
[13:29] <ogra_> ask Chipaca, he migh know more :)
[13:35] <Chipaca> me? i know nothing
[13:35] * Chipaca <- in a meeting
[14:28] <jdstrand> sergiusens: it might be a bug in the review tools. there is some pretty ugly code due to the click compat bits that I think might be getting confused (ie, it is trying to detect if the yaml and the click compat manifest are in sync cause if they aren't, the snap could be crafted)
[14:29] <jdstrand> sergiusens: this won't be any issue once the pending feature branch mvo and I are working on lands (and I make the corresponding change to the review tools)
[14:29] <jdstrand> sergiusens: Chipaca saw this too the other day. I think something changed in snappy that started triggering this issue
[14:29] <jdstrand> sergiusens: can I have the snap?
[14:30] <Chipaca> about what?
[14:30] <Chipaca> jdstrand: is it about network-client?
[14:32] <jdstrand> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13222977/
[14:33] <jdstrand> it seems like snappy build isn't generating the compat apparmor profile correctly
[14:33] <jdstrand> when you specify nothing, you are supposed to have the default template and 'network-client'
[14:33] <jdstrand> oh, actually, I think I may know the issue
[14:34] <jdstrand> this might be related to the networking -> network-client change
[14:34] <jdstrand> I'll fix that real quick
[14:34] <jdstrand> but again, all this compat code will be leaving both snappy and the review tools once mvo and I are down with the policy regeneration branch
[14:35] <jdstrand> done*
[14:36] <mvo> jdstrand: :-D indeed, thats going to be a glorious day. let me know how I can help further, I prepared the warning for the compatitbility if security-override.apparmor,seccomp is used and I wrote the ubuntu-core-launcher upate
[14:36] <jdstrand> mvo: I saw! I think that is perfect. just ignore that it is there
[14:37] <jdstrand> mvo: I'm preparing an apparmor upload that is related to snappy image policy uploads and the new /var/lib/snappy/apparmor/profiles dir
[14:37] <jdstrand> mvo: I will have that done this morning and then get back to reviewing your changes
[14:38] <mvo> yay!
[14:38] <rickspencer3> stgraber, so, lxc is not working for me on my up to date (version 9) Beagle Bone Black: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13227521/
[14:41] <jdstrand> man I hate this compat code in the review tools...
[14:43] <mvo> jdstrand: it will be over soon
[14:44] <mvo> jdstrand: soon we have it all replaced
[14:45] <jdstrand> \o/
[14:48] <sergiusens> mvo, well, well; there will be one more point of sync as snapcraft would be assembling the snap
[15:29] <stgraber> rickspencer3: hmm, not completely clear what's the problem there. It looks like something's failing with lxc-net in there but then lxd itself is running or lxd-images would have failed differently...
[15:29] <rickspencer3> stgraber, ok, what should I do?
[15:29] <stgraber> rickspencer3: I'd recommend doing a reboot if you haven't yet, see if that gets things back in working order. If not, another possibility for that error would be that you're running out of disk space somehow.
[15:30] <rickspencer3> stgraber, I did reboot
[15:30] <rickspencer3> stgraber, what's a good way to check disk space?
[15:31] <stgraber> rickspencer3: "df -a | grep writable" may do it, it's a bit of a mess with all the bind-mounts though
[15:31] <rickspencer3> stgraber, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13227923/
[15:32] <stgraber> that should be fine
[15:32] <stgraber> ok, let me try to reproduce that issue on my beaglebone black here
[15:33] <rickspencer3> thanks stgraber
[15:41] <jdstrand> beuno: can you pull r543 to the store. this is needed to address the error in things like https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3675/seq/4/
[15:42] <jdstrand> beuno: beuno more review tools changes will be coming in the next week or so, but this one is kinda needed now
[15:44] <beuno> jdstrand, yeap. cc/ pindonga
[15:44] <jdstrand> beuno: also, I don't seem to be able to waive https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3675/seq/4/ through
[15:45] <sergiusens> jdstrand, beuno let me calm eveyone a bit though; only us devs see that as it is only in the tools-proposed area or xenial at most
[15:45] <jdstrand> beuno: the first failure is what I fixed in the review tools. the second is Chipaca wanting access to snapd and I'm presuming he knows what he is doing :)
[15:55] <stgraber> rickspencer3: fyi, I did manage to reproduce the issue here on my bbb, I'm trying to figure out what's going on now
[15:55] <rickspencer3> thanks stgraber
[15:55] <rickspencer3> stgraber, if you give me a link to the project, I will log a bug for you if you want
[15:56] <stgraber> doh, found the issue
[15:56] <stgraber> MemoryError
[15:56] <stgraber> the bbb doesn't have enough RAM to process the cloud image :)
[15:57] <rickspencer3> stgraber, ouch
[15:59] <stgraber> looks like we could change lxd-images to use less RAM, it'd use more I/O though but probably still worth doing
[15:59] <stgraber> I'll file an upstream bug for that
[16:02] <stgraber> rickspencer3: https://github.com/lxc/lxd/issues/1300
[16:03] <rickspencer3> stgraber, ok, doesn't sound like it will be fixed quickly
[16:03] <rickspencer3> keep me posted
[16:05] <stgraber> rickspencer3: fix should be pretty straight forward but it'll take another couple of weeks before it's in a release that hits snappy
[16:05] <rickspencer3> stgraber, ack, I get it
[16:05] <rickspencer3> np
[16:05] <stgraber> rickspencer3: though you'll be able to grab the lxd-images script from git and manually use it until then
[16:06] <rickspencer3> stgraber, ooh
[16:06] <rickspencer3> ok, just let me know when you have something for me to try
[16:07] <jdstrand> beuno, pindonga: actually, can you make that r544? r544 has the vendor checks removed too
[16:07] <jdstrand> bug #1510522
[16:29] <jdstrand> beuno, pindonga: heh, make that r545 -- I missed sergiusens branch which I just merged
[16:33] <stgraber> rickspencer3: https://github.com/lxc/lxd/pull/1301
[16:34] <rickspencer3> stgraber, nice
[16:34] <stgraber> testing on my bbb now (prepared it on x86 obviously :))
[16:34] <rickspencer3> I'm working on something else right now, but if you want me to try your fix later, just post me some instructions
[16:38] <stgraber> doh, /tmp is a tmpfs on snappy, so that's not helping much as it still ends up in memory
[16:38] <stgraber> pretty sure /tmp on tmpfs is a bad idea for low-memory devices...
[16:38] <stgraber> mvo: ^
[16:39] <stgraber> rickspencer3: sure enough, the MemoryError is now replaced by a No space left on device :)
[16:39] <rickspencer3> um
[16:39] <rickspencer3> stgraber, so, I guess we need an image for a bigger sd card?
[16:40] <stgraber> what we'd need is for snappy to detect that the board has low memory and setup /tmp as a path on /writable instead of an in-memory tmpfs
[16:40] <stgraber> I'm basically doing that manually here now to confirm that this then all works
[16:51] <mvo> stgraber: thanks! indeed, thats our default setup
[16:51] <mvo> stgraber: i.e. use tmpfs
[17:03] <stgraber> rickspencer3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13228814/ <- confirmed that this works fine here
[17:04] <stgraber> rickspencer3: so moving forward, hopefully snappy won't be using tmpfs for /tmp on beagleboneblack and LXD 0.23 will contain the lxd-images fix, at which point everything should just work (albeit very slowly, but that's because of the hardware)
[23:01] <jerryG> how do i start mir manually?
[23:50] <csanders> I'm running through the "your first app" tutorial. After building the example webcam .snap, can I locally install this on my Snappy Ubuntu Core VM?
[23:50] <csanders> The guide moves on to "publishing apps" but doesn't mention installing this to test that it built correctly.
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[04:26] <dcbane> good evening
[04:26] <dcbane> earlier...
[05:04] <pieter2627> morning all
[05:32] <theblazehen> hi pieter2627
[05:33] <anton> morning
[05:33] <theblazehen> sup anton
[05:33] <pieter2627> hi theblazehen
[05:33] <pieter2627> hows the studing going?
[05:33] <theblazehen> Going alright, thanks
[05:34] <pieter2627> haha
[05:51] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:00] <pieter2627> hi thatgraemeguy
[06:19] <dcbane> hello again pieter2627
[06:20] <pieter2627> hi dcbane
[06:20] <dcbane> sup
[06:22] <pieter2627> not much, just hope it wont be so hot today
[06:22] <pieter2627> and self
[06:22] <dcbane> not too shabby
[06:54] <inetpro> oh my, have I said good mornings yet?
[06:55] <inetpro> hello everybody
[06:59] <theblazehen> hi inetpro
[07:24] <dcbane> { inetpro } oh my, have I said good mornings yet? <-- you just did
[07:25] <inetpro> dcbane: how're things going there?
[07:43] <Kilos> hi superfly inetpro pieter2627 thatgraemeguy theblazehen TinuvaMac skokkk MaNI dcbane dlPhreak danfowler Cryterion ambo anton aquarat and whoever i missed
[07:44] <Kilos> Maaz cffee on
[07:44] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[07:44] <Maaz> Kilos: *blink*
[07:44] <anton> mornings
[07:44] <MaNI> hi
[07:44] <Kilos> ai!
[07:44] <pieter2627> lol
[07:44] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[07:44] * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[07:44] <pieter2627> hi Kilos
[07:44] <pieter2627> and morning inetpro
[07:45] <theblazehen> Be back later, cheers guys
[07:45] <Kilos> ok lad
[07:45] <Kilos> i sukkeled yesterday
[07:46] <Kilos> sim in modem forgot how to use data
[07:46] <inetpro> wb oom Kilos
[07:46] <Kilos> telkom says do a sim swop
[07:46] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[07:47] <Kilos> it seems some thing in xp i have on one drive for doing work that xp does best has a bug in thats now killed 2 sim cards
[07:47] <Kilos> so its now wiped
[07:48] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:48] <Kilos> hi dupingping hows china?
[07:48] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[07:48] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:11] <thatgraemeguy> hi kilos
[09:22] <Squirm> Good morning
[09:25] <Squirm> Was wondering if someone here could give me any ideas. We have a dashboard hosted internally, but it's also accessible from the outside. How would I use the same DNS name for both?
[09:44] <thatgraemeguy> Squirm: so externally the name resolves to an internet ip and internally the same name resolves to an internal ip?
[09:44] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: That's what I want
[09:45] <thatgraemeguy> what do you use for name resolution internally?
[09:45] <Squirm> The problem is our router doesn't route our external IP when I try and connect to it from the inside
[09:45] <thatgraemeguy> no, it won't
[09:45] <Squirm> We have a dns server
[09:45] <Squirm> Moving to bind soon
[09:46] <thatgraemeguy> on your dns server you create a zone with the FQDN of the relevant name and set the A record to the internal ip
[09:46] <Squirm> We do that already
[09:46] <thatgraemeguy> um, then it ought to work
[09:47] <Squirm> It does
[09:47] <Squirm> But it's maintaining all of our zones :D
[09:47] <thatgraemeguy> then I don't understand the question
[09:49] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: I wondered if it was possible to have one zone, that could manage internal and external addresses
[09:50] <thatgraemeguy> you mean have the answer be different based on the querying client ip?
[09:50] <Squirm> Yes, something like that
[09:51] <thatgraemeguy> hrmmm ok
[09:51] <thatgraemeguy> sorry, no idea :)
[09:51] <thatgraemeguy> the normal solution here is that your internal DNS serves internal people and external DNS serves external people
[09:51] <Squirm> Haven't found anything on the Google, so just thought I'd get some ideas :D
[09:51] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy: that's what we have
[09:51] <thatgraemeguy> yes i know
[09:52] <anton> yip u will have to have 2 dns servers running for ur problem
[09:52] <thatgraemeguy> I'm just re-iterating that that is the way I've always seen it done :)
[09:52] <Squirm> :P
[09:52] <Squirm> I know
[09:52] <Squirm> anton: seems like it
[09:52] <anton> our external is hosted with afrihost then our normal bind for internal
[09:53] <Squirm> anton: Yeah, we use Amazon's Route53
[09:54] <anton> other possible solution is to run a logon script with hosts forced when they are at the office?
[09:57] <Squirm> anton: I suppose the goal was to get away from having two DNS servers
[09:57] * Squirm shrugs
[09:58] <anton> nope not for a while i'm afraid
[09:59] <Squirm> All's well
[10:22] <inetpro> Squirm: you could always update the 1001 internal clients' local hosts file with a static entry to the internal address :-)
[10:23] <inetpro> that would not be a very good idea though
[10:23] <inetpro> maintaining an internal DNS server is really the way to go and not so difficult at all
[10:29] <Squirm> inetpro: I know
[10:29] <Squirm> But it's a cool idea :D
[12:10] <pieter2627> Squirm: can the internal clients access it using the external address?
[12:50] <Squirm> pieter2627: yeah. But not from internally
[12:51] <pieter2627> hmm, why?
[12:52] <pieter2627> my internal clients can access the home server using its external address...
[12:52] <pieter2627> so thought that you might be able to use that... together with some iptables maybe
[18:31] <superfly> my trackpad is a bit crazy tonight
[18:39] <gremble> Has it tried to kill your cat because you aren't twiddling it often enough?
[18:42] <inetpro> goeienaand
[19:21] <Squirm> Evening
[19:58] <gremble> Hey Squirm
[22:03] <magespawn> exit
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[00:05] <sgclark> lol
[00:05] <sgclark> oops
[00:05] <mparillo> Kinfocenter reports Plasma 5.4.3
[00:05] <mparillo> No obvious breakage.
[00:06] <mparillo> wxl: Do you have corrections for the wire post?
[00:07] <wxl> mparillo: change the kubuntu-ppa link from bugs.launchpad.net to launchpad.net :)
[00:08] <mparillo> Good catch, thanks.
[00:08] <wxl> np. thank YOU :)
[00:13] <mparillo> wxl: But the link refers to reporting bugs in the packaging.
[00:34] <sgclark> mparillo: released 5.4.3 to backports if you can write up on wire and whatnot, when you can of course.
[00:35] <mparillo> TY. I am still confused on my link to bugs, because that is where we want to report them if they are packaging?
[00:35] <ahoneybun> soooo sgclark what do I do?
[00:35] <sgclark> mparillo: wily that is.
[00:36] <sgclark> ahoneybun: I will look when I can. doing a million things.
[00:36] <ahoneybun> no no
[00:36] <sgclark> mparillo: I think pehaps make it more clear that that is a link for bug reporting and not the repository.
[00:36] <ahoneybun> if 5.4.3 is in backports what do I do with the staging
[00:37] <sgclark> instructions are on my site. basically you want to ppa-purge after testing.
[00:37] <sgclark> add backports if it is not already.
[00:43] <ahoneybun> done, thanks sgclark
[00:43] <ahoneybun> sgclark: what is our timezone diff?
[00:43] <sgclark> 3 hours
[00:44] <ahoneybun> tomorrow I'm off
[00:44] <ahoneybun> if we could work on KApps 15.08.3
[00:44] <shadeslayer> sgclark: btw plasma-workspace needs some fixing
[00:44] <shadeslayer> sgclark: http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/job/plasma-workspace_binary_unstable/arch=amd64/116/console
[00:44] <shadeslayer> in case you can work on it, if not, I can get to it tomorrow
[00:44] <sgclark> ahoneybun: running apps now.
[00:45] <ahoneybun> oh
[00:45] <shadeslayer> ( FWIW I think KCI is not being on worked on thes days actively )
[00:45] <sgclark> shadeslayer: I am trying but so much is borked at this point.
[00:45] <shadeslayer> sgclark: that failiure is from ksld being split
[00:45] <shadeslayer> sgclark: right, would recommend just looking at DCI
[00:45] <shadeslayer> for core stuff
[00:45] <sgclark> shadeslayer: ok thank you
[00:45] <shadeslayer> a little less borked than KCI since I've been trying to not let the red count go up
[00:46] <sgclark> excellent
[00:46] <shadeslayer> it won't catch QA things, but lets get things building first
[00:46] <sgclark> lol yes, that is a good start
[00:46] <ahoneybun> thank you very much sgclark and shadeslayer
[00:49] <shadeslayer> np
[01:01] <ahoneybun> mm and the monitor works now
[01:01] <ahoneybun> odd
[01:18] <claydoh> sgclark: re your blog announcement, shouldn't the title say "kubuntu-backports" instead of "wily-backports"? I only say this from past experience in what people read and see, lol!
[01:19] <sgclark> claydoh: ahh ok, I just wanted to make sure folks know it is only Wily. Kubuntu is in the title.
[01:20] <sgclark> I can add kubuntu I guess
[01:20] <claydoh> I know, but some will see it as the wily-backports lol, there is probably n o good way to say it
[01:21] <sgclark> KDE 5.4.3 Bugfix release Available now for Wily in Kubuntu Backports. ok? claydoh
[01:22] <claydoh> perfect ;) thank you for the awseomeness you bring ;)
[01:23] * claydoh was very recently describing all the different ppas and official component
[01:23] * claydoh is sure it was confusing to them
[01:23] <sgclark> confuses me haha
[02:55] <valorie> very cool that you are going to Munich, sgclark
[02:56] <valorie> Riddell: perhaps the KC can ask you to be "treasurer" or something?
[02:56] <sgclark> thanks
[02:56] <valorie> so you have a Title or so
[02:56] <sgclark> will be a very busy weekend
[02:56] <valorie> :-)
[02:56] <valorie> indeed
[03:04] <sgclark> valorie: ubuntu community funding request submitted
[03:06] <valorie> excellent!
[03:06] <valorie> thanks to all who are making this event happen
[09:06] <Riddell> valorie: that's a good idea
[09:08] <sitter> sgclark: seems you angered the merger? :P
[09:49] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:53] * nluxton waves
[10:44] <sitter> yofel, sgclark: http://kci.pangea.pub/view/xenial/
[10:44] <sitter> please tell me if or when you want vivid to be nuked
[10:44] <sitter> currently it would CI all three series
[10:47] <clivejo> sitter: nice one :)
[10:53] <yofel> sitter: unless sgclark vetoes, now. I don't care about vivid anymore
[11:12] <sitter> PPA exceeded its size limit (19531.00 of 16384.00 MiB). Ask a question in https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/ if you need more space.
[11:12] <sitter> guess I'll be wiping it now :P
[11:12] <wgrant> sitter: Which PPA? :)
[11:13] <sitter> wgrant: kubuntu-ci/unstable AND kubuntu-ci/unstable-daily AND kubuntu-ci/unstable-weekly
[11:13] <wgrant> Good lord!
[11:13] <sitter> ah, they got Qt5.5 landed
[11:13] <sitter> I guess that would push them over
[11:14] <wgrant> sitter: All fixed so you don't have to wait a few hours for them to clear.
[11:14] <sitter> wgrant: thank you <3
[11:14] <sitter> yofel: I think we should drop the weekly PPAs btw
[11:15] <sitter> seeing as they involve(d) human QA they never got a lot of updates and were always outdated for all but one version
[11:18] <yofel> I'll leave that up to you guys, I never used any of the -daily/weekly archives. Daily is useful with the bit of QA it has, weekly probably not, right
[11:18] <sitter> daily is out of date as well since kdepim decides to not fix ABI breaks btw
[11:19] <yofel> meh
[11:19] <sitter> core requirement is that all jobs at least aren't red, which they all are thanks to ABI breakage :/
[11:36] <soee_> sgclark: thanks for 5.4.3 release
[11:39] <sitter> ok looking good
[11:50] * yofel needs to start making notes for the CI to talk about in munich..
[11:56] <Ridgewing> Hi saw this review: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2015/11/ubuntu-15-10-flavors-comparison/
[12:08] <clivejo> Ridgewing: I wonder is that with the bluz bug?
[12:12] <clivejo> 52.6 seems a bit long?
[12:13] <clivejo> I also noted that, from the GRUB menu, Kubuntu 15.10 took about 20-22 seconds before it started to run the display-manage
[12:26] <yofel> accoring to the hardware specs he mentioned, the bluez thing shouldn't affect him
[12:28] <ghostcube> since systemd ubuntu starts slower
[12:28] <ghostcube> blame mr. poettering
[12:30] <sitter> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
[12:34] <jmux> well - the long bluez timeout of the network manager was independant of having BT hardware. Already patched upstring, now running BT detection async.
[12:42] <yofel> jmux: patched in wily-updates as well since yesterday.
[12:43] <yofel> but IIRC it only affected users without or disabled BT interfaces
[12:44] <yofel> regarding startup speed with systemd: Yes, it's slower, but the difference is so small that it really isn't that much of a problem
[12:45] <jmux> Well - we'll be switching from 12.04 to 14.04 next year - systemd problems won't hit us before 2018...
[12:47] <yofel> consider yourself happy
[13:33] <Ridgewing> clivejo, Which one is the bluz bug ? https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=bluz
[13:39] <mparillo> Ridgewing: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354230
[13:40] <mparillo> Good discussion on KFN, real answers start around here: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?69153-Plasma-long-loading-after-login&p=380979&viewfull=1#post380979
[13:40] <mparillo> Note that things have been much better for me, but I am mostly on the daily build now.
[13:42] <Ridgewing> mparillo: It says that it's closed. Is this is case of 'closed' but not forgotten ?
[13:43] <mparillo> It means it is fixed upstream. So, the distros need to package the fix.
[13:43] <santa_> hi everyone
[13:44] <mparillo> I believe Kubuntu has (not because I know the Launchpad bug off-hand), but because my boot times have greatly improved.
[13:45] <Ridgewing> gootta go .. don't believe it santa.
[13:57] <yofel> people wouldn't need to believe if they would read the bug comments ^^
[14:01] <mparillo> yofel: Sorry, now I scrolled to the bottom of the BKO, I see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/+bug/1509334
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:22] <sgclark> good morning
[14:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning sg
[14:23] <BluesKaj> sgclark, :-)
[14:24] <sgclark> yeah I did a booboo sitter. unfortunately it was late too. Here to fix now though. Please nuke Vivid.
[14:38] <yofel> Does someone know where the Feedback column on Trello came from and what it's used for?
[14:40] <sgclark> no clue
[14:42] <howlymowly> hi everyone.. short question: regaridng this message here: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=424
[14:43] <howlymowly> why does a "bugfix" release not come to the normal stable repositories?
[14:43] <yofel> because our scripts are missing the required functionality right now. Will follow in a week or two
[14:44] <howlymowly> ahh ok .. so ill get 5.4.3 also without adding backports?
[14:44] <yofel> yes, but you might have to wait... a while
[14:45] <howlymowly> yofel: thx i was just interested in the procedure :)
[14:45] <howlymowly> better wait some time than having too many bugs ;)
[14:51] <yofel> sitter: is kubotu lying around somewhere or did the code get deleted (or something)?
[15:04] <yofel> Quintasan: should https://trello.com/c/1zKvQUph/17-package-and-get-ksuperkey-available-by-default still be assigned to you? Any update on it from your side?
[15:09] <sitter> yofel: I don't appear to have access to ubottu.com anymore
[15:10] <yofel> aah, drat
[15:10] <sitter> or maybe I am just doing it wrong xd
[15:10] <sitter> doesn't like me
[15:10] <sitter> perhaps that server imploded at some point?
[15:10] <sitter> would also epxlain why kubotu is not here considering I setup a cron to bring it up on startup
[15:16] <ahoneybun> yofel: the feedback was from Kubuntu Promo for the website
[15:37] <jose> Mamarok: ping!
[15:41] <yofel> ahoneybun: does that still need it's own column? If it's just untriaged todo items then put them into the backlog
[15:42] <ahoneybun> it was for feedback that people left about the website during its dev
[15:44] <yofel> riiight, can't that just be tagged as "website, feedback" or so?
[15:45] <yofel> we have the backlog column for stuff where we don't know if it makes sense or whether we really want to do it, so the extra column feels out of place to me
[15:45] <yofel> But if you consider it important then leave it
[15:45] <ahoneybun> I think we can just use tags
[15:46] <ahoneybun> to keep it a bit more clean
[15:47] <jose> sgclark: hey, have a min for a quick PM?
[15:47] <sgclark> jose: sure thing
[16:55] <santa_> yofel: what's going on with debian merges?
[16:56] <yofel> santa_: just the regular we-started-a-new-release-cycle-and-need-to-sync-with-debian merge
[16:56] <yofel> santa_: https://trello.com/c/TCAk2U9J/71-debian-merges
[16:59] <yofel> santa_: do you have a place where you track TODO's for the automation stuff?
[17:00] <santa_> yofel: nope, but right now I think it already has the minimal functionality to work decently
[17:02] <santa_> ftr I have just used it for siduction/plasma5.4.3 and works
[17:03] <yofel> ok, then we can maybe try to generate the wily SRU packages using that
[17:03] <santa_> hmm, not sure it will work out of the box for that but I could tweak whatever has to be changed
[17:04] <santa_> I think right now it could be used for xenial + staging, but it's untested
[17:04] <yofel> not sure as I haven't checked how scarlett generated the first set. But at least the versions and changelog need fixing for that
[17:05] <yofel> xenial wasn't done either, but that's stuck on a broken packageset for now
[17:05] <sgclark> I just used the old scripts hacked to use backports branch.
[17:06] <sgclark> have not touched xenial due to we need to do merges
[17:06] <yofel> aah ok
[17:06] <yofel> so if wily_archive wasn't touched this should be fairly easy
[17:06] <sgclark> nope was not touched
[17:06] <yofel> perfect
[17:07] <santa_> ok, may I work with clivejo on xenial?
[17:07] <yofel> well sure, but nobody will be able to upload it
[17:07] <santa_> ?
[17:07] <sgclark> work with what?
[17:08] <santa_> getting plasma 5.4.3 and apps .3 on xenial
[17:08] <sgclark> though I HAVE to work with my KDE hat on a bit today, that to do list is mounting.
[17:08] <yofel> a lot of packages are missing from our packageset, so nobody here currently has full upload permissions for plasma
[17:08] <yofel> and fixing that is non-trivial because of germinate
[17:08] <sgclark> I was under the impression we were going to work on the beta releases there...
[17:08] <sgclark> what is the point of doing a point release on xenial?
[17:08] <yofel> yes, but for the .3 SRU to be uploaded to wily it first has to be in xenial
[17:09] <sgclark> ahh
[17:09] <yofel> that's policy
[17:09] <sgclark> I see
[17:09] <santa_> hmm, let me check the current versions then
[17:09] <sgclark> nm santa_ seems I have some policy reading to do. 5.4.3 on xenial it is
[17:10] <yofel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure point 1
[17:10] <sgclark> thanks yofel
[17:11] <yofel> it's simple: never upload something to -updates that has a higher version than the one in the dev release
[17:12] <santa_> ok, so what to do now?
[17:12] <yofel> but also note: never upload something to -updates that contains changes meant for the dev release (which is why the packages currently in backports only qualify for backports)
[17:12] <yofel> although, you might not have done that
[17:13] <santa_> one thing we could do is merging the current kubuntu_wily_backports branches into kubuntu_xenial_archive and work from there
[17:15] <yofel> *sigh* didn't someone want to get new hardware for moszumanska? :/
[17:15] <santa_> I can help patching broken merges if that's needed, and I have the impression that clive is also available to do that
[17:16] <yofel> would be an idea, I hope to have the packageset fixed until the weekend
[17:17] <yofel> you will have to merge stuff as there are already xenail changes in the repo
[17:18] <santa_> no prob, I will try to have a look soon
[17:19] <sgclark> yofel: afaik I did not upload anythinng meant for dev release.
[17:20] <yofel> ok, I just assumed so because that's what "backports" usually means
[17:20] <yofel> workflow chaos XD
[17:20] <sgclark> yes
[17:21] <sgclark> sorry. I really have much to learn.
[17:22] <yofel> well, that's normal. I think the last time we did proper SRUs was trusty, and you weren't around much back then
[17:22] <yofel> (hence why staging-upload has a huge commented-out code block that nobody ever bothered to finish)
[17:23] <yofel> the complicated part is that the SRU team doesn't like no-change rebuilds, and a large part of that code is the detection for that
[17:25] <sgclark> ahh
[17:25] <sgclark> that makes sense. think debian is the same in that
[17:25] <sgclark> and yeah trusty is when I first started on this adventure
[17:26] <sgclark> so really xenial will be my first LTS
[17:26] <sgclark> fun fun
[17:34] <yofel> oooooh, scarlett for CC. voted :D
[17:34] <sgclark> lol the secret is out. That is reason I could not KC
[21:07] <soee> sgclark: how is the apps building going ?
[21:08] <sgclark> ready to test! soee
[21:08] <soee> aleady ? :)
[21:08] <sgclark> lol just hit the publish on blog post
[21:08] <sgclark> yep, bugfix releases usually do not have tons of major changes
[21:09] <sgclark> my kmail works once again. woot
[21:09] <ahoneybun> in the backport or staging?
[21:10] <ahoneybun> sgclark:
[21:10] <sgclark> staging, needs testing first
[21:10] <ahoneybun> !testers
[21:10] <soee> sgclark: installing
[21:11] <ahoneybun> unless staging disabled for me I dont have them yet
[21:11] <ahoneybun> or the chance to upgrade
[21:11] <soee> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications
[21:11] <ahoneybun> ohh
[21:11] <ahoneybun> right
[21:11] <ahoneybun> I have the plasma one
[21:12] <sgclark> yeah it is best practice to add and remove those ppas as needed or things can explode
[21:12] <ahoneybun> opps
[21:12] <sgclark> of course I love exploding desktops
[21:12] <mparillo> KDE Apps in staging for Wily?
[21:12] <sgclark> learn lots getting it functional again lol
[21:12] <ahoneybun> I don't lol
[21:12] <sgclark> mparillo: correct
[21:13] * ahoneybun removes staging plasma
[21:13] <sgclark> I dont really either haha
[21:13] <sgclark> makes it difficult to work
[21:13] <ahoneybun> I don't like rebuilding tomuch
[21:13] <ahoneybun> upgrading
[21:14] <BluesKaj> ahoneybun, is this for 15.10?
[21:14] <soee> after release we shoudl mentioned to teh users taht they can install extra package with plasma wallpapers
[21:14] <soee> sgclark: download/upgrade fine, rebooting
[21:16] <soee> sgclark: back, all seems to be fine
[21:17] <sgclark> cool, now go use some of the apps you normally use and make sure they do not go boom! lol
[21:17] <yofel> the wallpapers sounds like something for a kubuntu docs section
[21:17] <sgclark> like for instance I am finding ktp is not liking google application passwords
[21:17] <yofel> oh, you have that asking for a password all the time too?
[21:19] <sgclark> it will not even let me change it. I am rather confused, it used to work
[21:19] <ahoneybun> yes BluesKaj
[21:20] <sgclark> telegram account adding barfs too
[21:20] <yofel> I'm more annoyed that ktp-auth-handler is asking me for a password for an account that doesn't exist
[21:20] <yofel> probably some old config file still has the account and there's like no "normal" way to delete it
[21:20] <sgclark> I think I am missing something
[21:21] <sgclark> sounds likely yofel
[21:21] <ahoneybun> sgclark: there is no backend for telegram I thin
[21:21] <ahoneybun> no konsole update?
[21:21] <sgclark> oh
[21:21] <ahoneybun> still at 15.08.0
[21:21] <ahoneybun> I have not rebooted yet but
[21:21] <sgclark> mm
[21:21] <sgclark> let me look ahoneybun
[21:21] <ahoneybun> dolphin says 15.08.3
[21:22] <soee> yup it shows 15.08.0
[21:22] <sgclark> mm I can no longer click new tab on top of firefox, omg how annoying
[21:23] * ahoneybun heads out
[21:24] <soee> sgclark: new tab click (+) works fine here
[21:24] <sgclark> heh yes seems konsole was not in application list. Here is where yofel s handy work will come in handy I expect.
[21:24] <yofel> which? ^^
[21:24] <sgclark> keeping current list of applications?
[21:25] <yofel> weird, the package list file has konsole
[21:26] <sgclark> hmm probably my fault then. Using an older rev to hack the backports bit.
[21:29] <sgclark> nope, this is weird, it did get run. Just not uploaded. very strange
[21:31] <yofel> hm, I git-clone-all doesn't work for me
[21:31] * yofel goes patching
[21:31] <sgclark> err it did get uploaded konsole - 4:15.08.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1
[21:33] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: whats up with your internet?!?
[21:36] <mamarley> sgclark: Working great here, thanks for your work! :)
[21:37] <mparillo> sgclark: I am upgrading 164 packages
[21:42] <yofel> santa_: what the hell is git-ssh-kubuntu?
[21:45] <yofel> ah, I'm blind
[21:46] * clivejo whistles
[21:46] <yofel> lets try this
[21:46] <genii> If muon does not progress under new maintainer, what will become the default package manager?
[21:46] <yofel> apt I guess?
[21:47] <genii> Hm
[21:47] <yofel> cli is awesome
[21:47] <yofel> or well, people can go back to synaptic I guess
[21:47] <genii> yofel: I generally use apt/dpkg myself, but I am thinking of the GUI people
[21:48] <yofel> hence synaptic. The use case for a *package* manager is so small that one application in the archive is probably enough
[21:48] <genii> yofel: OK, thanks
[21:48] <yofel> muon was great, but qapt had and has too many problems
[21:49] <yofel> oh, git-clone-all also adds the remotes, nice
[21:50] <yofel> santa_: please merge our automation-ng branch, thanks
[21:52] <clivejo> gulp
[21:52] <yofel> what did you do? ^^
[21:53] <clivejo> LOL
[21:53] <clivejo> sorry, wrong window
[21:53] <yofel> XD
[21:53] <clivejo> meteor app
[21:53] <clivejo> was trying to run gulp
[22:04] <soee> yofel: ping
[22:05] <yofel> hm?
[22:06] <soee> yofel: system booted with nvidia profile .. After i changed it through nvidia-settings and tried to logout it freezed with some bbswitch command, but after reboot i'm on nvidia
[22:06] <yofel> interesting
[22:06] <yofel> haven't tried that lately, my uptime is 24 days ^^
[22:07] <mparillo> sgclark: I re-booted and Dolphin 15.08.3, Konsole, Muon Update Manager, Rekonq, and Kinfocenter show no obvious breakage.
[22:07] <sgclark> great :)
[22:08] <sgclark> brb
[22:09] <mhall119> ximion: shadeslayer: do either of you have a blog about your trip to akademy I can link to from the community donations report?
[22:10] <santa_> yofel: ok, will do after dinner if I stay awake
[22:11] <ximion> mhall119: I only have http://blog.tenstral.net/2015/08/akademy-2015.html , no detailed report though
[22:12] <clivejo> interesting blog ximion!
[22:17] <mhall119> thanks ximion
[22:18] <clivejo> mhall119: is that link working for you?
[22:18] <mhall119> nope, just checked it
[22:18] <clivejo> I just get "wat?"
[22:18] <mhall119> same
[22:18] <mhall119> ximion: ^^
[22:18] <ximion> are you on IPv4-only?
[22:18] <mhall119> yes
[22:19] <ximion> okay, then I know the cause - stupid Nginx
[22:21] <keithzg> genii: I was under the impression that Muon Discover and Muon Updater are being maintained, and I think Muon-"proper" hasn't shipped by default in a while? So for CLI-phobic folks or just ease of quick use there'd still be GUI methods shipping with Kubuntu.
[22:21] <genii> Hm
[22:21] * keithzg isn't quite sure he's qualified, but has thrown his hat into the ring as possible help for maintaining Muon
[22:22] <keithzg> I've grown to rather prefer it to Synaptic and I'd hate to see it go, although yeah, with Discover+Updater on one end and good ol' apt on the other it wouldn't be the end of the world.
[22:23] <ximion> mhall119, clivejo: should be fixed now, can you please verify?
[22:23] <yofel> ximion: fixed
[22:23] <clivejo> wat he said!
[22:23] <yofel> ^^
[22:24] <ximion> genii: if Muon does not progress, it will simply stay :P
[22:24] <ximion> only if it doesn't get ported to Frameworks6 it will vanish
[22:25] <ximion> but I am pretty sure it will find a new maintainer - I am still wondering if I could find someone to help with Apper for all the !Debian-based distros
[22:26] <keithzg> ximion: Apper's the PackageKit frontend, eh?
[22:26] <ximion> yes
[22:27] <ximion> https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=apper.git
[22:28] <ximion> needs some bugfixing and finish of the KF5 port - but so far nobody did the work, and there are just numerous requests from Arch and Fedora to update it
[22:28] <ximion> in that regard, Debian and Kubuntu are much better off ;-)
[22:28] <keithzg> Well, we have better package management anyways ;)
[22:31] <keithzg> Although looking at the git repo commit messages at least it looks like it wasn't *that* long ago that the last work on porting to KF5 was done, just back in July, and some build fixes were done late-October.
[22:35] <sick_rimmit> Ah ha keithzg Hi Riddell mentioned you in respect to Muon-installer
[22:37] <keithzg> sick_rimmit: Heya. Yeah, I saw Riddell's blog post and had commented there.
[22:42] <sgclark> yofel: didn't we used to be able to create those new packages bugs via IRC? is that still possible?
[22:42] <yofel> no, which is why I asked about kubotu. The script the bot was running is in kubuntu-dev-tools
[22:42] <sgclark> ah, oki
[22:51] <yofel> ok, git-clone-all + some random shell scripting and we hopefully have a working packageset
[22:54] <soee> +1
[22:58] <clivejo> yofel: where is it up to?
[22:58] <yofel> clivejo: what?
[22:59] <clivejo> the tools
[22:59] <yofel> https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/+ref/automation-ng
[23:05] <yofel> clivejo: when do you plan to apply for membership btw? ^^
[23:05] <clivejo> membership of what?
[23:05] <yofel> kubuntu
[23:06] <clivejo> is it a requirement?
[23:07] <yofel> to contribute, no. It's a requirement for ~kubuntu-dev eventually and some of our stuff is owned by ~kubuntu-members on LP
[23:07] <yofel> and has some additional benefits together with ubuntu membership
[23:08] <yofel> was just curious as you're past the 6 month mark around now
[23:08] <sgclark> hmm I dont seem to have access to that, oh wait it is git. guess I have to fiddle with config somewhere.
[23:09] <yofel> sgclark: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git
[23:10] <sgclark> ty
[23:21] <yofel> and I forgot to fix kwin again. Let me do that before going to bed...
[23:46] <VeryBewitching> ovidiu-florin: This is faster than emailing, re: Polylang
[23:52] <sgclark> mm kwallet does not seem to want to do anything.
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[00:04] <junior_> BOa noite
[00:04] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[00:07] <junior_> Estou com problema de usar dois monitores no meu PC.. alguma dica? Está habilitado no setup
[00:07] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[00:08] <junior_> astroo-: eu sei.. estou esperando.
[00:41] <barna> galeras, só uma ajuda simples, to usando uma rede samba. nos clientes ta montado com cifs, mas se o servidor cai/desliga/reinicia e/ou desconecta algum switch o cliente da pau, não consegue acessar os arquivos internos do hd.
[00:42] <barna> alguem o que posso pesquisar pra resolver isso?
[01:05] <Opa> BOa noite
[01:05] <barna> boa
[01:05] <Opa> consegui instalar o ubuntu.. usar dois monitores e não está mais piscando o mouse
[01:06] <Guest44524> acho que falei contigo ontem barna
[01:06] <barna> sim falaste.
[01:06] <barna> depois acho q foi shallw q continuou a te ajudar
[01:06] <Guest44524> barna: consegui o que eu queria.. agora estou só curtindo
[01:06] <Guest44524> SIm sim
[01:06] <barna> me contas como feis
[01:07] <barna> pra mim aprender tb
[01:07] <Guest44524> eu estava com o 14.04.. atualizei os drivers e dava erro em ACPI, então minha ultima tentativa foi testar a 15.10 e nela está funcionando.
[01:07] <Guest44524> E com a 15.10 consegui atualizar os drivers sem dá nenhum erro.
[01:08] <barna> Guest44524, seu comp é muito novo?
[01:09] <Guest44524> não muito
[01:09] <Guest44524> um nvdia 9800gt, hd 1tb, 8gb e um intel core i5 3330s
[01:09] <barna> q estranho dar erro no 14.04
[01:10] <barna> mas a vida segue. bom q rolou ai
[01:10] <Guest44524> Pois é.. também não entendi
[01:10] <Guest44524> Tá show agora.. só preciso aprender alguma coisa a mais pra instalar
[01:10] <Guest44524> Queria mudar as cores das barras tem como? Vi o Ubuntu tweak mas não achei um comando que desse certo.
[01:10] <barna> eu to usando o 15.10 em vm pra testar
[01:11] <barna> Guest44524, tem na central de programas.
[01:11] <barna> Guest44524, vc tem smartphone?
[01:11] <astroo-> Guest44524 ola
[01:11] <Guest44524> barna: sim
[01:11] <Guest44524> astroo-: Olá
[01:12] <barna> Guest44524, vc instala os programas pela playstory ou appstore ñ?
[01:12] <barna> *store
[01:12] <Guest44524> barna: play
[01:13] <barna> então android é um linux, e é assim q se instala as coisas no linux (salvo exeções)
[01:13] <Guest44524> barna: uso o Galaxy S6 com root.. custom rom, custom kernel, custom recovery
[01:13] <barna> Guest44524, pra vc instalar o tweak vc vai na central de programas ubuntu que seria a playstore do ubuntu
[01:14] <barna> ixi, então vc vai desembolar no ubuntu rapidim
[01:14] <Guest44524> barna: por isso queria aprender.. porque nunca tinha usado.
[01:15] <barna> vai na central de programas e procura pelo unity tweak
[01:15] <Ronaldo> como faço para adquirir o cd do linux?
[01:15] <barna> no meu aki da um erro, mas eu ja baguncei geral o sistema.
[01:15] <barna> Ronaldo, compra um cd virgem, baixa a iso e grava.
[01:15] <barna> Ronaldo, a muitos anos q não é mais fornecido cds do ubuntu
[01:16] <Ronaldo> ok
[01:16] <Guest44524> barna: Instalando e vou dá uma olhada.
[01:16] <barna> Ronaldo, ps. dvd, cd não cabe as versões novas!
[01:16] <Guest44524> Obrigado, vocês são foda em ajuda..
[01:16] <hggdh> linguagem, por favor
[01:16] <barna> Bem Vindo ao mundo Linux! KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[01:17] <Ronaldo> onde está o 15.10?
[01:18] <barna> Ronaldo, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[01:18] <barna> Ronaldo, eu ainda indico o 14.04, 15.10 só tem mais alguns meses de suporte.
[01:19] <Ronaldo> correto
[01:19] <barna> Guest44524, cuidado com esse "comandos" da internet. se faça se vc souber o q está fazendo.
[01:20] <Guest44524> barna: eu não sei o que estou fazendo kkkk
[01:21] <barna> então se prepare pra erros homericos, recomendo fortemente manter um backup
[01:21] <hertz> Como assim o 15.10 só tem mais alguns meses de suporte?
[01:22] <barna> hertz, em julho ele vai ser "abandonado"
[01:22] <hertz> Ah, temos definições diferentes de alguns :P
[01:22] <barna> hertz, nada mais vai atualizar etc.....
[01:23] <Guest44524> Só não entendi esse lance das atualizações
[01:23] <barna> hertz, os LTS tem suporte a longo prazo, em geral uns 5 anos.
[01:23] <barna> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[01:24] <hertz> sim eu to ligado, é que do jeito que vc falou (melhor do jeito que eu li) fiquei com impressão que estivesse falando tipo, mais dois ou três meses
[01:24] <barna> veja o Version timeline
[01:28] <hertz> De qualquer forma eu não vejo isso como um problema, se a pessoa continuar atualizando
[01:28] <barna> hertz, mas é bom a pessoa estar ciente
[01:29] <barna> falando sobre atualização, quando vc muda muito as conf originais do sistema (tipo eu), é muito comum dar altos erros no update de distro.
[01:29] <barna> sempre q vou trocar faço uma instalação limpa e copio o /home
[01:30] <Guest44524> barna: conhece alguns temnas?
[01:30] <barna> nops, não gosto, quanto mais limpo e simples pra mim melhor.
[01:30] <Guest44524> barna: queria um mais dark. Gosto de temas escuros. Me aventuro nos temas da Samsung. kkk
[01:32] <hertz> barna: básicamente o que eu faço, só que o motivo é ao contrário. Não é pra não bugar o update e sim pra limpar a zona que faço :P
[01:32] <barna> as unicas customizações visuais q faço e trocar a tela de fundo e colocar os indicadores (sou maniaco por indicadores, tipo, uso de cpu, temperatura, velocidades etc.)
[01:33] <barna> hertz, kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:34] <barna> Guest44524, na net vc acha varios repositorios de themas, só fica esperto pra colocar a versão certa do seu ubuntu, que no caso do 15.10 é wily
[01:34] <hertz> é sério, a gente vai usando o sistema e vai instalando e removendo coisa e derrepente o sistema ta cheio de porcaria espalhada, arquivos de configuração que foram adicionados na mão
[01:36] <Guest44524> barna: onde colocou os indicadores?
[01:37] <barna> tens q instalar
[01:37] <barna> eu uso o gkrellm, só mudo o tema dele pq o default é feio pra .......
[01:39] <hertz> barna: o default dele tem uma nostalgia meio Win98 kkkkkkkkk
[01:39] <barna> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:39] <Guest44524> vou atras kkk barna
[01:39] <barna> Guest44524, central de programas
[01:40] <barna> http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/
[01:41] <barna> eu escolho um thema q dialoge com a imagem de fundo e pronto, só mudo a imagem de fundo quando mudo de versão.
[01:42] <barna> q em geral é de 2 em 2 anos, pq só uso LTS, as non-LTS só em vbox pra ir me adaptando as mudanças e resolvendo como fazer as minhas bagunças nela.
[01:43] <barna> alguem sabe uma boa documentação (de preferencia em portugues) sobre o if (shel script)?
[01:45] <shallwe> Guest44524, procurando themas pro ubuntu?
[01:46] <Guest44524> shallwe: isso
[01:46] <shallwe> ubuntu 14.04?
[01:46] <shallwe> Guest44524, alguns ainda estão online e funcionando http://sourcedigit.com/9432-top-10-best-custom-themes-ubuntu-14-04/
[01:46] <shallwe> eu uso o Numix
[01:47] <hertz> barna: vc tem as man pages em pt?
[01:47] <Guest44524> shallwe: 15.10
[01:47] <barna> hertz, cabei achando uma do bom e velho morimoto
[01:48] <barna> hertz, nops, os man tão em ingles
[01:49] <Guest44524> shallwe: esse do 14.04 funciona no 15.10?
[01:49] <hertz> eu não conheço nenhuma em pt, o if em si é bem simples. O mais importante fica no test
[01:50] <barna> hertz, aprendendo script a 2 semanas. :p
[01:51] <barna> precisava entender o -z -gt e essas coisas do if, pq to tentando ler um script um tanto quanto complexo pra gerar um outro baseado nele.
[01:51] <hertz> barna: isso é do test na verdade
[01:51] <barna> o base é feito pra debian, to portando ele pra ubuntu
[01:51] <hertz> as opções
[01:51] <barna> hertz, sim agora to sabendo, a 10min atraz num sabia o q eles faziam. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:53] <hggdh> barna: man bash, e depois procure por CONDITIONAL EXPRESSIONS
[01:53] <hertz> barna: Se tiver alguma dúvida ou precisar de ajuda só chamar aqui ou por PM mesmo
[01:54] <barna> nó, centenas de milhares de duvidas
[01:55] <barna> valeu hggdh
[01:56] <barna> mas esses texto tão tecnicos em ingles eu me perco um pouco, demoro muito pra entender.
[01:57] <hggdh> a explicação do [[, [, e test é simples :-)
[02:00] <barna> sim, já deu pra sacar, mas é como aprender a falar uma nova lingua, demora um tico até vc ler e entender o q ta sendo falado.
[02:00] <barna> eu to só a 2 semanas aprendendo a ler. muitos termos ainda são desconhecidos pra mim.
[02:01] <barna> quando vc le um man ta cheio de expressões (em ingles) que tb desconheço.
[02:17] <hggdh> barna: http://www.di.ubi.pt/~operativos/praticos/pdf/3-bash.pdf
[02:18] <barna> nó, gratidão hggdh
[12:25] <edu141415> Bom Dia a Todos
[12:25] <Aloizio> Bom dia
[12:26] <edu141415> Como eu faço uma instalação de pacote mysql 5.7.9 no ubuntu 10.10 eu já tenho gnome e samba e uma pasta compartilhada com o pacote dentro. Já removi o mysql-common
[12:27] <edu141415> No ubuntu 10.10
[12:27] <Aloizio> pq o 10.10?
[12:28] <edu141415> Eu tentei estes dois comandos e não consegui. sudo dpkg -i / caminho / versão-pacote-nome específico .deb sudo dpkg -i mysql-apt-config_ w.xy-z _all.deb
[12:28] <edu141415> Porque eu quero usar um Ubuntu atualizado
[12:30] <edu141415> Ele apresenta erro
[12:30] <edu141415> Como eu instalo um pacote mysql que adicionei no ubuntu? Eu não sei.....
[12:30] <Aloizio> vamos esperar alguem mais experiente não sei como ajudar você
[12:31] <edu141415> Desculpe, minha versão é 15.10 eu falei errado
[12:31] <edu141415> Minha versão é 15.10
[12:31] <Aloizio> a ta
[12:32] <Aloizio> ontem tive problemas e acabei voltando para versão 14.04.03
[12:33] <Aloizio> 15.10 não é versão final, acho que você tera que pegar o 15.04 que é versão testada
[12:33] <edu141415> Olha este print da maquina virtual
[12:34] <edu141415> http://postimg.org/image/ylwnmn745/
[12:34] <eloi_carneiro> edu141415, vc já essta como root
[12:34] <eloi_carneiro> não precisa do sudo
[12:34] <eloi_carneiro> esta vendo #
[12:35] <eloi_carneiro> aquilo significa que já esta como root
[12:35] <edu141415> Eu estava seguindo este tutorial lá na pagina do mysql. Vou ver se consigo ajustar o comando sou novo em linux
[12:35] <edu141415> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide/en/#apt-repo-fresh-install
[12:35] <edu141415> Entendi, como já estou com root não precisa do sudo
[12:35] <eloi_carneiro> ok
[12:35] <eloi_carneiro> nesta pasta que vc
[12:35] <eloi_carneiro> esta
[12:36] <eloi_carneiro> manda um ls -lah
[12:36] <edu141415> ta
[12:38] <edu141415> http://postimg.org/image/7ha7bo4qz/
[12:38] <edu141415> olha ai mandei o comando que tu pediu
[12:38] <eloi_carneiro> olha que lindo
[12:39] <eloi_carneiro> vc esta dentro da pasta
[12:39] <eloi_carneiro> com tudo que vc precisa
[12:39] <edu141415> como eu faço para instalar estes pacotes ai que eu adicionei por uma pasta compartilhada?
[12:39] <eloi_carneiro> já esta como root
[12:39] <eloi_carneiro> dpkg -i *.deb
[12:39] <edu141415> Ele estava dando erro
[12:39] <edu141415> ta
[12:41] <edu141415> Tem algum link para me indicar que explique estas letras ai -i -f e outras que usam por ai?
[12:41] <edu141415> gostaria de entender melhor
[12:41] <eloi_carneiro> manda um dpkg --help
[12:41] <eloi_carneiro> ele vai te mostrar o que significa cada opção
[12:41] <eloi_carneiro> usa esse site http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:41] <eloi_carneiro> para postar o erro
[12:42] <eloi_carneiro> acho que é mais rápido
[12:42] <edu141415> http://postimg.org/image/hpbaz6kt3/
[12:42] <edu141415> olha o erro ai que deu no dpkg
[12:43] <edu141415> alguma coisa com dependencia
[12:46] <eloi_carneiro> sim
[12:47] <eloi_carneiro> é porque ele esta tentando instalar um pocote que precisa de outro que ainda não foi instalardo
[12:48] <eloi_carneiro> por isso que o apt-get é tão bom
[12:48] <eloi_carneiro> ele cuida disso para vc
[12:48] <eloi_carneiro> vamos ver o primeiro exemplo
[12:48] <edu141415> mais a versão do apt-get é mais velha, digo do mysql
[12:49] <eloi_carneiro> sim
[12:50] <eloi_carneiro> mas vc pode usar ppa pra fazer isso
[12:50] <eloi_carneiro> mas vamos fazer a instalação desse jeito
[12:50] <eloi_carneiro> só pro questões "academicas"
[12:50] <eloi_carneiro> porque via ppa eu acho melhor
[12:50] <eloi_carneiro> porque ele cuida das dependencias e se sair algum path de segurança
[12:51] <eloi_carneiro> ele mantem o seu banco de dados atualizado
[12:51] <eloi_carneiro> quando vc faz por pacote
[12:51] <eloi_carneiro> já não é bem assim
[12:51] <edu141415> Tem como eu fazer um apt-get e ver quais são as dependencias para depois fazer isso manualmente na ordem correta?
[12:51] <eloi_carneiro> creio que cim
[12:52] <eloi_carneiro> sim
[12:52] <edu141415> vou pesquisar no google quais são as dependencias do mysql
[12:52] <edu141415> talvez não sejam muitas
[12:53] <eloi_carneiro> o que estou vendo auqi
[12:53] <eloi_carneiro> é referente ao pacote test
[12:53] <R-15> como instalar um software no gerenciador de máquinas virtuais q tem na loja de programas do ubuntu?
[12:54] <R-15> gostaria de instalar o win
[12:54] <eloi_carneiro> R-15, usa o virtualbox
[12:54] <eloi_carneiro> pesquisa por ele
[12:55] <R-15> tem na loja?
[12:55] <eloi_carneiro> edu141415, move o mysql-community-test para fora da pasta
[12:55] <eloi_carneiro> tem
[12:55] <eloi_carneiro> R-15, tem sim
[12:55] <eloi_carneiro> ou vc pode baixar direto do site do projeto
[12:55] <edu141415> o chat esta traduzindo quando tem mensagem nova que saco. Esse crome fica traduzindo já desliguei e continua
[12:56] <R-15> certo, ver aqui
[12:57] <eloi_carneiro> R-15, https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[12:57] <eloi_carneiro> R-15, vc sabe a versão do seu sistema operacional
[12:57] <R-15> já instalei...
[12:57] <R-15> sim, 15.10
[12:57] <eloi_carneiro> R-15, fecho
[12:58] <R-15> ver se consigo mexer aqui..
[12:58] <eloi_carneiro> R-15, eu tenho um win7 em cativeiro aqui (virtualizado) para o ERP e algumas ferramentas da empresa
[12:58] <edu141415> arrumei a tradução eloi_carneiro agora vou fazer o que você pediu, não estava entendendo muito bem ehehehheh só tirar ele da pasta vou recortar uma pasta antes
[12:58] <R-15> hummm legal
[12:59] <R-15> no caso eu tenho q ter um CD do win, certo?
[12:59] <R-15> pode ser pen-drive, no caso?
[12:59] <R-15> ou esse URL q ele pede já faz tudo?
[13:00] <eloi_carneiro> se vc tiver a .ISO que chamamos, a imagem do disco vc também pode usar
[13:01] <R-15> tbm pode? então tem como fazer sem?
[13:01] <eloi_carneiro> R-15, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBvlEc2vyKk
[13:01] <eloi_carneiro> R-15, aqui tem um exemplo
[13:02] <R-15> humm certo, vlww
[13:02] <eloi_carneiro> edu141415, vc conseguiu mover o pacote de test para fora
[13:02] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[13:02] <eloi_carneiro> como esta ai
[13:02] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[13:10] <edu141415> consegui
[13:10] <edu141415> tive problema com permissões
[13:10] <edu141415> estou tentando instalar agora
[13:13] <edu141415> eloi_carneiro deu erro novamente olha http://postimg.org/image/7pzqmelz1/
[13:14] <edu141415> tiro tambem o mysql testsuit?
[13:16] <eloi_carneiro> ele esta reclamando da libmecab2
[13:16] <eloi_carneiro> na verdade
[13:16] <eloi_carneiro> que ainda não foi instalarda
[13:16] <eloi_carneiro> instalada
[13:17] <eloi_carneiro> mas estou vendo aqui
[13:17] <eloi_carneiro> e vc não tem esse pacote
[13:17] <eloi_carneiro> nessa pasta
[13:18] <edu141415> entendi
[13:18] <eloi_carneiro> move essa de testsuit pra fora
[13:18] <edu141415> mesmo tirando o mysql testsuit deu erro nos outros 3 pacotes
[13:18] <edu141415> já tentei
[13:19] <edu141415> http://postimg.org/image/w7yjqt2g1/
[13:20] <eloi_carneiro> vamos fazer pacote por pacote então
[13:21] <eloi_carneiro> manda pdkg -i lib*.deb
[13:21] <eloi_carneiro> vamos fazer apenas as libs
[13:25] <edu141415> ta
[13:25] <edu141415> vou devolver todos para a pasta que estavam
[13:25] <edu141415> e mandar o comand
[13:29] <edu141415> http://postimg.org/image/ex3cz1rzb/
[13:29] <edu141415> mesmo problema de dependencias
[13:30] <eloi_carneiro> aqui
[13:30] <eloi_carneiro> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/repo/apt/
[13:30] <eloi_carneiro> tá vendo esse pacote
[13:30] <eloi_carneiro> ele configura o repositorio official do mysql para vc
[13:30] <eloi_carneiro> ok
[13:30] <eloi_carneiro> calma ai
[13:30] <eloi_carneiro> vou pegar outra coisa aqui
[13:31] <edu141415> entendi
[13:31] <edu141415> vou baixar e passar pela pasta compartilhada, estes que estão ali eu deleto?
[13:31] <eloi_carneiro> aqui
[13:31] <eloi_carneiro> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide/en/
[13:31] <eloi_carneiro> não precisa deletar
[13:31] <edu141415> ok
[13:32] <edu141415> este seu segundo link eu estava lendo a documentação
[13:32] <eloi_carneiro> dai é só seguir esse tutorial
[13:32] <eloi_carneiro> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide/en/
[13:32] <eloi_carneiro> não tem erro
[13:32] <eloi_carneiro> o unico pacote que vc vai instalar manual
[13:32] <eloi_carneiro> é o de configuração do apt
[13:33] <eloi_carneiro> é melhor assim, vc pega direto do repositório do mysql
[13:33] <eloi_carneiro> e caso sair algum path de segurança vc já recebe
[13:33] <eloi_carneiro> olhando o tutorial ficou alguma duvida
[13:33] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[13:35] <edu141415> estes pacotes que estão dando erro foram baixados do site do mysql
[13:36] <edu141415> uma pergunta
[13:36] <edu141415> dpkg -i mysql-apt-config_ w.xy-z _all.deb
[13:36] <edu141415> este comando ai
[13:36] <edu141415> o que significa o apt-config e as letras a direita w.xy-z
[13:36] <edu141415> ?
[13:36] <eloi_carneiro> vc baixou o mysql-apt-config
[13:37] <eloi_carneiro> digita dpkg -i mysql-apt-config e dai aperta tab 2 vezes que ele vai preencher pra vc
[13:37] <edu141415> vou baixar tu me passou o link
[13:37] <eloi_carneiro> aquele x.xy.-z é apenas uma abstração
[13:37] <eloi_carneiro> foi o primeiro
[13:38] <eloi_carneiro> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/repo/apt/
[13:38] <eloi_carneiro> lá no final da página tem o link
[13:39] <eloi_carneiro> eu tenho que resolver umas coisas aqui, mas vc esta no caminho, qualquer coida manda a mensagem, que daqui a pouco eu volto
[13:42] <edu141415> ok
[13:42] <edu141415> obrigado pela ajuda
[14:09] <eloi_carneiro> voltei
[14:09] <eloi_carneiro> edu141415, e ai conseguiu?
[14:13] <wnb> oi
[14:27] <edu141415> ainda não fiz esta fora da mesa
[14:27] <edu141415> vou almoçar 14:00 estou de volta
[15:45] <Luccccas> Boa tarde
[15:45] <Super_Ape> Boa tarde
[15:46] <Luccccas> Alguem conhece algum programa pra poder equalizar o som?
[15:47] <Super_Ape> Mixxx
[15:49] <Super_Ape> Luccccas, Pesquisou?
[15:51] <Luccccas> Super_Ape: eu vi o JAMin mas não sei se funciona do jeito que imagino
[15:51] <Super_Ape> Você quer um para remasterizar o som?
[15:53] <Luccccas> Super_Ape: equalize o que estou escutando
[15:53] <Super_Ape> Ah rapaz, qual programa equivale no Windows?
[15:54] <Luccccas> Super_Ape: no windows usava o programa que vinha nos drivers da minha placa de som
[15:54] <Super_Ape> Nome?
[15:54] <Luccccas> Super_Ape: Realtek HD
[15:55] <Super_Ape> Vou pesquisar aqui
[15:56] <Super_Ape> Luccccas, Tem ele pra Linux
[15:56] <Super_Ape> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[18:13] <MerliM> hggdh, mannnn lol felizao ganhei um i3 de um cliente :D
[18:14] <MerliM> serve pra meu propositos kkk agora meu Dell será minha estação de uso movel do Xenserver
[18:15] <MerliM> alguém aqui saca massa de virtualização para me indicar o que seria melhor usar o Xenserver - KVM sob uma distro qualquer - QEMU
[18:15] <hggdh> heh
[18:15] <MerliM> não será uma estação de produção e sim pra fins didaticos
[18:15] <MerliM> e algumas vezes para socorro de clientes
[18:33] <Castrilla> Boa tarde
[18:33] <pekman> sup
[18:34] <Castrilla> Como Gente como renomeio um diretorio se mesmo com o rrot esta dando arquivo somente leitura?
[18:34] <hggdh> provavelmente o filesystem está montado read-only
[18:35] <Castrilla> Eu acho que é isso mesmo porque este arquivo esta dentro de um pendriver
[18:36] <Castrilla> bom eu volto depois tenho que dar uma saida
[18:36] <Castrilla> hggdh: valeu cara
[18:40] <mirqui> boatarde :)
[18:42] <MerliM> boa tardeee
[18:43] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :) ?
[18:44] <MerliM> tudo bem mirqui
[18:44] <MerliM> mirqui, tu saca de virtualização
[18:45] <mirqui> ahahah mas nem a pau juvenal , sou novo no linux
[18:46] <mirqui> de virtualização só tentei usar o virtual machine no linux
[18:46] <mirqui> para emular o windows xp
[18:48] <MerliM> :)
[18:50] <hertz> MerliM: XEN?
[18:53] <MerliM> hertz, sim a minha idéia é o seguinte tenho um dell latitude vou por nele 8gb dois discos de 1 tera em LVM e gostaria de saber o que seria mais indicado para rodar as máquinas se usando Xenserver OS x KVM x QEMU os últimos claro apartir de um SO Nix
[18:54] <MerliM> essa máquina seria usada para finalidades didaticas e possivelmente para suprir algumas demandas de clientes em caso de falha nos servidores dele
[18:54] <MerliM> entendeu???
[18:54] <MerliM> se for KVM ou QEMU acho que vou escolher entre CentOS ou Scientify Linux para distro hospedeira
[18:56] <mirqui> o dell é note ?
[18:57] <hertz> Sinceramente pra finalidade didática acredito que não vá fazer tanta diferença, escolha aquele que vc se sentir mais confortável.
[18:58] <hertz> A parte de 'suprir algumas demandas de clientes' eu não entendi direito, e antes de comentar mais sobre faço a mesma pergunta que o mirqui esse Dell é um notebook?
[18:58] <MerliM> mirqui, sim a ideia é criar um modelo movel de suporte a vários sistemas e um lab de testes
[18:58] <MerliM> algo assim
[18:59] <MerliM> hertz, cenário tenho clientes que rodam banco de dados por exemplo, nessa máquina eu teria um DB rodando pronto para ser o estepe desse cliente
[18:59] <MerliM> algo assim
[18:59] <hertz> E onde essa máquina ficaria conectada?
[19:00] <MerliM> em cliente que não tivesse soluções de redundancia, algo reaalmente bem rápido substituiu hoje amanha o já deve ter um novo equipamento ou a maquina original ativada novamente em caso de falha so de sistema
[19:00] <MerliM> como disse móvel poderia ser instalada remotamente no meu home office ou inloco
[19:00] <MerliM> dependendo da demanda do cliente
[19:00] <mirqui> notebook pode dar problema de superaquecer merlim
[19:01] <MerliM> no mais quando ela estivesse fora de uso como lab
[19:01] <MerliM> mirqui, creio que nao mirqui ele seria instalado nas mesmas condições de refrigeração de um servidor
[19:02] <mirqui> eu tentei entrar num cluster de pesquisas , mas mesmo usando 10% do processador , deu superaquescimento
[19:02] <edenc> ...
[19:02] <mirqui> mas não é um note
[19:02] <mirqui> ?
[19:02] <MerliM> sim um note
[19:02] <MerliM> pra tarefas simples mano nada tão robusto como um cluster
[19:02] <mirqui> vc vai deixar ele com quantos coolers ?
[19:03] <mirqui> ou ele vai superaquescer
[19:03] <MerliM> servir de estepe para um apache nginx db etc
[19:03] <MerliM> pq ele iria superaquecer mano???
[19:03] <mirqui> disso não entendo , mas o meu superaquesceu
[19:04] <hertz> MerliM: Eu entendi a sua idéia mas sinceramente não vejo muita vantagem nela.
[19:04] <mirqui> mesmo com poucos processos abertos
[19:04] <mirqui> e tem outra merlim
[19:04] <mirqui> é leva tudo , perde tudo
[19:04] <mirqui> esqueceu , perdeu ou foi assaltado , já era
[19:05] <MerliM> hertz, tá quais os teus contrapontos hertz gostaria de compartilhar comigo
[19:05] <mirqui> adeus sua estrutura
[19:05] <MerliM> mirqui, tem isso
[19:05] <MerliM> realmente
[19:05] <hertz> Pode até ser que em condições ideais o note só com virtualização e rodando LEMP/LAMP stack não fosse super aquecer, mas e quando a máquina sofrer algum ataque.
[19:06] <hertz> ou vc tiver mais de um cliente precisando dela ao mesmo tempo (sim é bem improvável que isso aconteça, mas pode acontecer)
[19:06] <MerliM> entendi, a pergunta aqui então é tirando o fator superaquecimento a idéia é válida
[19:06] <MerliM> ??
[19:06] <edenc> MerliM: porquê você precisa de virtualização?
[19:06] <MerliM> e deixando de lado o fator estepe para alguns clientes se fosse usado para fins didaticos de ensino e estudo, é complemente possivel
[19:06] <hertz> edenc: provávelmente pra isolar os clientes
[19:06] <MerliM> ?
[19:07] <edenc> se é só pra isolar os clientes não precisa de virtualização
[19:07] <hertz> MerliM: a parte didática é completamente válida
[19:07] <edenc> didatismo justifica qualquer coisa
[19:07] <edenc> hahaha
[19:07] <hertz> :P
[19:07] <MerliM> blza
[19:07] <MerliM> obrigado
[19:07] <edenc> MerliM: mas sério
[19:07] <MerliM> pelas dicas e ajuda
[19:07] <edenc> MerliM: explica o motivo da virtualização?
[19:07] <MerliM> hertz, obrigado mano
[19:08] <edenc> em muitos casos, um chroot resolve :P
[19:09] <hertz> ou um OpenVZ que é um chroot chique kkkkkkkk
[19:10] <edenc> ter mais de um kernel rodando é um jeito bom de fritar uma CPU
[19:11] <edenc> quantas VMs recursivas será que meu i7 aguenta?
[19:12] <MerliM> edenc, como disse para uso didatico nao necessaáriamente elas ficariam online o tempo todo
[19:16] <edenc> MerliM: os chroot também não ficariam
[19:17] <MerliM> edenc, ai ideia é boa vou analisar :D
[19:18] <edenc> tipo, chroots não "ficam online"
[19:19] <edenc> é só uma restrição no filesystem
[19:19] <MerliM> ok entendi
[19:19] <edenc> inclusive, essa é a desvantagem
[19:20] <edenc> você não vai ter ips dedicados pra cada uma
[19:20] <edenc> e as portas vão ser compartilhadas, porque todos os processos vão rodar sob o mesmo kernel
[19:21] <edenc> se isso for um problema dá pra emular uma interface
[19:21] <MerliM> docker poderia ser uma alternativa interessante ou cairia no mesmo ???
[19:21] <edenc> mas aí eu já recomendaria um sistema de virtualização porque é mais fácil
[19:22] <MerliM> edenc, blz mano entendi
[19:22] <edenc> não, docker é um outro domínio de problema
[19:25] <mirqui> vou fazer um lanchinho , fui :)
[19:25] <MerliM> edenc,
[19:25] <MerliM> edenc, ok
[19:26] <edenc> MerliM: o lance com TI que eu vejo, é que o melhor é escolher o mais rápido/fácil de implementar pro seu caso *agora*
[19:26] <edenc> daí se surgirem outras necessidades, você faz uma gambi pra resolver
[19:26] <edenc> até que fique caro demais manter as gambis
[19:28] <MerliM> edenc, forçando assim o investimento necessário ou não hauahuua
[19:29] <edenc> MerliM: juro cara, já fui consultor de uma startup avaliada em 10M USD, nos primeiros 3 anos os serviços rodavam dentro de sessões do GNU Screen
[19:29] <hertz> se tivessem usado tmux valeriam mais :P
[19:30] <edenc> hertz: acho que não, os yuppies que investem em startups nem sabem a diferença
[19:30] <edenc> fora o fato de que em muitos casos o screen é melhor
[19:30] <hertz> não vamos transformar isso em holy war :P
[19:31] <hertz> mas eu concordo com vc na questão de fazer o mais rápido/fácil de implementar primeiro
[19:31] <hertz> e pra falar a verdade isso meio que resume a mentalidade de 90% dos donos de empresa com quem trabalhei.
[19:32] <hertz> As vezes você perde um tempão fazendo o seu trabalho direito, e cria toda aquela documentação explicando o pq de cada coisa, se prepara apresenta tudo bonitinho e no final das contas vc acaba com 80% do que planejou cortado logo de cara
[19:34] <MerliM> #fato
[19:35] <edenc> hertz: muitas vezes outra pessoa aparece com uma solução que custa 80% menos e resolve os mesmos problemas que você resolveu rs
[19:36] <edu141415> Merlin o mestre dos magos que some na hora da ação. Brincadeira, vocês são fodasticos em linux
[19:37] <MerliM> edenc, muitas vezes aparece outra pessoa com uma solução gambiarrenta que despreza 80% de todo levantamento feito na fase de projeto, sem documentação, que só ele sabe como fazer e resolve ATÉ ele sumir huahuah
[19:37] <hertz> edenc: Dúvido, I'm dirt cheap
[19:37] <hertz> :P
[19:38] <edenc> hertz: sempre tem alguém mais barato
[19:40] <hertz> falando sério o que eu mais escuto é que eu cobro caro.
[19:40] <edenc> ah, não estou falando de cobrar caro
[19:40] <edenc> estou falando da manutenção da solução
[19:40] <edenc> e do custo de implantação, em hardware
[19:41] <hertz> Nesse caso então eu volto a dizer que sou barato, pelo menos eu me esforço pra ser
[19:42] <MerliM> pessoa obrigado pela ajuda e direcionamento
[19:42] <MerliM> saindo aqui abraçps
[19:42] <edenc> hertz: como você estruturaria o banco de dados de um TLD, por exemplo?
[19:46] <hertz> edenc: nesse caso eu provávelmente gastaria um tanto a mais pra tentar ter o máximo de certeza possível que ele não ficaria indisponível. Mas eu tentaria ser razoável e manter o budget o menor possível.
[19:46] <edenc> hertz: certo, mas daí tem pessoas com mais experiência nisso no mundo que conhecem uma variedade maior de soluções, saca?
[19:47] <edenc> dentro desse domínio
[19:47] <edenc> isso vale pra todo mundo
[19:47] <hertz> com certeza
[21:40] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[21:40] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte
[21:53] <nuno_nunes> ola o creto
[21:55] <nuno_nunes> :p
[22:02] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[23:17] <nuno_nunes> ola
[23:19] <astroo-> ola
[23:20] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de ajuda
[23:20] <nuno_nunes> :d
[23:31] <hertz> nuno_nunes: já vi muita gente com support burnout, mas acho que essa é a primeira vez que vejo o contrário xD
[23:32] <nuno_nunes> hertz, nao entendi
[23:32] <nuno_nunes> :S
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> burnout o que tem haver com ubuntu?
[23:34] <hertz> lol
[23:35] <hertz> support burnout no sentido de que a pessoa ofereceu tanto suporte que acabou ficando esgotada e começa a fazer de má vontade ou ser desnecessáriamente grossa com quem pediu ajuda.
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> quem
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> eu?
[23:36] <hertz> mas que essa é a primeira vez que eu vejo alguém oferecendo ajuda antes dos outros pedirem
[23:36] <nuno_nunes> hertz, eu pergunto sempre
[23:36] <nuno_nunes> eu utilizo linux a 13 anos :p
[23:37] <hertz> Passou meio batido mas a intenção foi um elogio e não uma crítica
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> ja me passou tanta distro pelas mãos que já perdi a conta
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> eu estou a usar 4 distros de linyx
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> linux
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:38] <hertz> Bacana
[23:38] <hertz> alguma preferida?
[23:39] <nuno_nunes> manjaro
[23:39] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:39] <nuno_nunes> e tu
[23:40] <hertz> Arch, faz um tempinho já que me apaixonei por ele
[23:42] <nuno_nunes> arch ou manjaro é a mesma coisa
[23:42] <nuno_nunes> eu agora estou no opensuse :D
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[02:39] <jj_> ???
[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[07:41] <Kilos> hi dholbach svij and all others
[07:41] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[07:46] <svij> hi Kilos and dholbach
[07:46] <dholbach> hi svij
[18:01] <dpm_> nhaines, ubucon call?
[18:37] <dpm_> nhaines, nm, Richard could make it, so all good
[18:37] <dpm_> talk to you soon!
[22:00] <mhall119> nhandler: ping
[22:00] <nhandler> Hi mhall119
[22:01] <mhall119> nhandler: hey, do you have a blog post from your release party I can attach to the community funding report?
[22:02] <nhandler> mhall119: It is the top post on blog.nhandler.com . For some reason, the direct link doesn't appear to be working right now. I'll sort that out after work today for you.
[22:05] <mhall119> nhandler: thanks
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:23] <hikiko> hello :)
[06:13] <pitti> Good morning
[07:29] <hikiko> Trevinho, thanks for the review, I've fixed it: https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.fixed-tests-wwarnings/+merge/275801 could you get another look? :)
[07:29] <hikiko> +good morning pitti :)
[07:29] <pitti> hey hikiko!
[07:31] <happyaron> morning hikiko and pitti, :)
[07:31] <hikiko> morning happyaron :)
[08:09] <Trevinho> Morning
[08:09] <Trevinho> hikiko: sure
[08:51] <willcooke> morning
[08:52] <hikiko> hello willcooke
[08:52] <darkxst> hey willcooke, hikiko
[08:52] <hikiko> hi darkxst
[08:53] <willcooke> french holiday today
[08:53] <darkxst> Ive had a holiday all week with my bung leg ;(
[08:53] <willcooke> :(
[08:53] <willcooke> "holiday"
[08:54] <darkxst> yeh, more like detention, can't really even walk
[08:55] <willcooke> oh man, that sucks
[08:56] <willcooke> hope you're feeling better soon
[08:56] <pitti> darkxst: erk, what happened? get well soon!
[08:56] <hikiko> get well soon darkxst
[08:57] <darkxst> pitti, though it was a strained calf muscle but doctors decided it was a blood clot in my
[08:57] <darkxst> ^my leg
[08:58] <darkxst> atleast that is what the ultrasound said
[08:59] <hikiko> :/
[09:01] <darkxst> now waiting on like 20 blood tests, because they don't know what caused it
[09:01] <pitti> darkxst: argh, thrombosis? my wife had that twice, it's rather rangerous
[09:01] <Laney> morning
[09:02] <hikiko> hi Laney
[09:02] <darkxst> pitti, yes, dad died from it
[09:03] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:03] <darkxst> pitti, though the dr's arent so concerned about the existing clot, but more, why its seemingly unprovacoted
[09:04] <pitti> darkxst: yeah, it's really hard to find the cause, this is usually just guesswork; can't blame it on the pill for you either
[09:06] <darkxst> pitti, I suppose I will find out from the blood tests if it was hereditary
[09:09] <darkxst> Laney, larsu, any more progress on gtk?
[09:11] <Laney> what kind of progress are you after?
[09:11] <Laney> hey hikiko pitti darkxst!
[09:11] * Laney is going good, got coffee AND tea :)
[09:11] <Laney> pitti: how are you?
[09:12] <pitti> Laney: quite fine, thanks! I'm getting better and better fighting jetlag in this direction :)
[09:12] <Laney> \o/
[09:12] <pitti> Laney: btw, yesterday I worked a bit on better tmpfail handling
[09:12] <Laney> you already had a quite effective method, I recall
[09:12] <Laney> oh?
[09:13] <pitti> Laney: if a worker now gets a tmpfail three times in a row, it kills itself, mails us, and the request gets back into the queue
[09:13] <pitti> Laney: this will (1) avoid tests actually failing with tmpfail permanently and thus us having to rm pending.txt
[09:14] <pitti> Laney: (2) automatically dial down the number of workers if we keep hitting quota issues
[09:14] <pitti> and finally, (3) tell us immediately if some cloud has gone bonkers again, as the mailed log should now have reasonably sufficient information what went wrong
[09:15] <pitti> Laney: i. e. the test log for the third tmpfail now goes into the worker log (as it's not on swift any more anywhere)
[09:15] <pitti> Laney: i. e. over night we saw three workers die with "no machine available", so the other 5 just happily went on
[09:16] <pitti> Laney: I also taught the worker to stop on SIGTERM (upstart job won't auto-restart) and restart on SIGHUP (through upstart job); I'll document that on the wiki
[09:17] <darkxst> Laney, like landing? needed for gnome-session \
[09:18] <Laney> darkxst: have you tried rmadison -s xenial libgtk-3-0 lately?
[09:18] <Laney> pitti: Ah nice, I like the auto re-queuing
[09:19] <Laney> shame the cloud is a bit wobbly still for this workload
[09:19] <pitti> Laney: yeah, was a bit pointless having to manually requeue them, but it made sense in the beginning to better see what goes wrong instead of silently papering over it
[09:20] <pitti> Laney: lcy01 is dead, lgw01 acted up on Monday (but sent an RT, got fixed)
[09:20] <pitti> lgw01 and bos01 seem to behave, except that on bos01 I often get these "not enough available machines" thingy
[09:20] <darkxst> Laney, no, Ive been incapictated most of the week ;(
[09:21] <Laney> pitti: I learned about "nova absolute-limits" the other day - I wonder if we could use that to dynamically scale the number of workers
[09:21] <pitti> Laney: but let's hope the worker is now robust enough to deal with this; so we now mainly need to react to workers going down, and restart them to get back to full capacity (unless the cloud is permanently broken)
[09:21] <Laney> Not sure if there's a corresponding thing for available instances
[09:21] <pitti> Laney: absolute-limits shows curr/max instances too
[09:21] <pitti> yes, it's rather useful
[09:21] <Laney> available -> cloud capacity
[09:21] <Laney> not my quota
[09:21] <pitti> Laney: yeah, that'd be useful
[09:21] <pitti> oh, right
[09:22] <Laney> both things would be good probably
[09:22] <pitti> Laney: ATM the autopkgtest-worker-launch upstart job just launches 8, and I manually launch ppc64el instances 9 to 15
[09:22] <pitti> using quota/absolute-limits for that would be much better indeed
[09:22] <pitti> although that won't help on bos01
[09:23] <pitti> while we have 25 instances, we must split them between ppc64el (max 15) and i386/amd64 (max 10)
[09:23] <pitti> it doesn't show us the instances per arch
[09:24] <pitti> Laney: so I guess starting $lots workers and let the right number of them auto-die on quota limit works reasonably well ATM
[09:24] <Laney> true
[09:25] <pitti> perhaps we could give them some "try auto-respawning after 6 hours" gimmick
[09:25] <pitti> the badge of reincarnation
[09:28] <Laney> the phoenix award
[09:29] <pitti> "I'm not quite dead yet!" ♩ ♪
[09:29] <pitti> ok, retries for last night's flood of uninstallability failures are looking good
[09:30] <darkxst> pitti, is there a branch for the autopkgtest instances somewhere? we eventually want to be able to run them against the ppa
[09:31] <pitti> darkxst: we actually can run tests against a PPA now; the main issue is that someone/something needs to trigger them, and there's currently no results browser for those
[09:31] * Laney wades into the libgsl swamp again
[09:31] <pitti> darkxst: all the code is public, yes; what do you mean in particular with "instance"?
[09:31] <Laney> seb128: can we do some demote-to-proposed for this later maybe?
[09:32] <darkxst> pitti, the bit that runs all the tests
[09:32] <seb128> Laney, sure, give me a list and I can do it
[09:32] <Laney> seb128: thanks, don't have it yet but I think there will be some
[09:32] <seb128> Laney, I'm having a look at libimobiledevice and glew
[09:32] <Laney> more transitions?
[09:32] <Laney> oh also, hi ;-)
[09:32] <seb128> hey ;-)
[09:32] <seb128> yes...
[09:32] <darkxst> pitti, I know I can use adt-run and craft some scripts, but apparently that is already done!
[09:33] <Laney> blerp
[09:33] <pitti> darkxst: so what can be done today is "run test for package gnome-foo against this PPA", and results will appear in swift (publically accessible)
[09:34] <pitti> darkxst: the worker and juju charms are on https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud?h=master ; debci is its own repo (http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/debci.git), and autopkgtest is http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git
[09:35] <pitti> darkxst: and docs of the whole thing are on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure
[09:36] <darkxst> pitti, what
[09:36] <Laney> what
[09:37] <darkxst> Laney, new keyboard is retarded
[09:37] <darkxst> what
[09:37] <pitti> darkxst: I'm happy to point you to more specific bits if you have more specific questions
[09:37] <pitti> *chuckle*
[09:38] <pitti> darkxst, Laney: so for robru's CI train or more generally for PPAs we'll eventually need to install custom britney instances
[09:39] <darkxst> pitti, so i just want the autopkgtests running against gnome3-staging ppa, to warn of test failures, because right now, we don't find those out until upload most of the time\
[09:40] <pitti> darkxst: i. e. essentially you want/need http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html running against the PPA
[09:41] <darkxst> pitti, well more or less, but definately non-blocking though
[09:42] <darkxst> although actually it would be pretty sweet to have the -proposed migration on the ppa
[09:42] <pitti> darkxst: it can't be blocking anyway, as PPAs don't have a concept of "-proposed" themselves; it'd be advisory
[09:43] <pitti> darkxst: i. e. it would run your PPA as "unstable" and consider either devel or devel+devel-proposed as "testing"
[09:43] <pitti> darkxst: depending on whether your PPA builds against devel or devel-proposed
[09:43] <pitti> (there's an option for which pockets to use in the PPA config)
[09:44] <darkxst> pitti, -proposed
[09:44] <pitti> darkxst: right, so you'd want a britney instance which tries to land the PPA ("unstable") onto devel-proposed ("testing")
[09:45] <pitti> darkxst: robru, slangasek, and I started discussing how we could make it easy to set up per-PPA britneys, as we need it for the CI tarin
[09:45] <pitti> train
[09:45] <pitti> darkxst: once that's done, it should be simple to create another instance for the gnome PPA
[09:50] <darkxst> pitti, not ecactly more just want autopkgtests running againts the ppa
[09:51] <andyrock> morning
[09:51] <pitti> darkxst: right, and britney would trigger the right ones and show you the results
[09:51] <pitti> darkxst: it wouldn't actually promote packages for you
[09:51] <pitti> darkxst: i. e. it would work like for stable releases (e. g. http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/trusty/update_excuses.html)
[09:52] <pitti> where it runs installability and autopkgtests, but not move packages
[09:52] <darkxst> pitti, yes that is fine, if want packages to actually be promoted into the archives we need a seperate ppa for that
[09:54] <darkxst> but then could just use the ci train, one day
[09:55] <darkxst> when the ci train supports git, and we actually have packaging branches
[09:56] <seb128> hey andyrock
[09:56] <willcooke> hey andyrock, seb128. Is Trevinho online yet?
[09:57] <seb128> hey willcooke
[09:57] <seb128> no idea
[09:57] <andyrock> willcooke yup
[09:57] <willcooke> sorry, that was a question for Trevinho, I shouldn't have tagged it on the hello line :)
[09:57] <andyrock> it was online one hour ago
[09:57] <andyrock> can you give me 5 more min?
[09:58] <willcooke> sure, no hurry
[09:58] <willcooke> andyrock, are you able to go a HO this morning>
[09:58] <willcooke> ?
[09:58] <andyrock> yup
[09:58] <andyrock> at university
[09:59] <andyrock> but I'll find a spot somewhere
[09:59] <willcooke> sure?
[09:59] <andyrock> yup :D
[09:59] <willcooke> oki, then we can try and keep it short
[09:59] <willcooke> hikiko, are you free for a HO in about 10 mins?
[09:59] <willcooke> Trevinho, you free as well? ^
[10:00] <seb128> in 10min wfm, let me make some coffee
[10:00] <darkxst> pitti, eventually we will have git branches on alioth, but its taking forever
[10:02] * willcooke <--- tea
[10:03] <darkxst> pitti, well I could push them now, but doesnt make a whole lot of sense until pkg-gnome team switch over
[10:04] <darkxst> probably still beter than having no packaging branches though I guess
[10:05] <larsu> good morning! (later today because I was at the gym)
[10:05] <Trevinho> willcooke: oh yeah sorry
[10:06] <Laney> larsu: gym!!!!
[10:06] <Laney> I had you as a "the world is my gym" person :P
[10:07] <larsu> Laney: did you? I noticed I go running less and less due to the weather. But need to move
[10:07] <larsu> actually feel quite nice now
[10:07] * larsu wonders if he should become a member
[10:08] <Laney> intriguing
[10:08] * larsu wonders if Laney is sarcastic
[10:08] <Laney> (climb not gym) (climb not gym) (climb not gym)
[10:09] <larsu> haha
[10:09] <larsu> you know they call it a climbing gym as well ;)
[10:10] <Laney> not here :P
[10:10] <Laney> we usually call it a "climbing centre"
[10:10] <larsu> of course
[10:11] <Laney> but actually they often have some training equipment
[10:11] <Laney> like olympic rings and stuff
[10:11] <seb128> hey larsu
[10:11] <larsu> morning seb128
[10:11] <Laney> sometimes even their own gym
[10:11] <larsu> ça va?
[10:11] <seb128> oui, et toi ? ;-)
[10:11] <andyrock> HO link?
[10:11] <willcooke> andyrock, just sent an invite
[10:12] <larsu> seb128: bien, merci
[10:13] <andyrock> k
[10:13] <willcooke> seb128, andyrock, Trevinho - just waiting for hikiko to confirm she can make it and then we can start. Just a few more minutes....
[10:13] <Trevinho> ok
[10:15] <seb128> k
[10:17] <hikiko> yes
[10:17] <willcooke> great
[10:18] <willcooke> oki, seb128 Trevinho andyrock hikiko: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/sprint-kickoff?authuser=0
[10:18] <willcooke> anyone who wants to see how our Agile sprints are going to work, feel free to join ^^^
[10:48] <willcooke> oops, sorry andyrock - I dropped but I heard you speaking...
[10:53] <willcooke> Trello import tool now added to: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/+junk/bugtools
[10:53] <willcooke> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/+junk/bugtools/view/head:/import_to_trello.py
[11:26] <seb128> Laney, so calligra depends on glew gsl and poppler
[11:26] <seb128> transition combo validated!
[11:27] <Laney> oh god!
[11:27] <seb128> :-/
[11:27] <Laney> but it actually built
[11:28] * Laney is in gsl hell
[11:28] <seb128> should we hint britney to try those together?
[11:29] <Laney> isn't it already?
[11:29] <seb128> Trying easy from autohinter: boomaga/0.7.1-1build1 cups-filters/1.1.0-1 gdal/1.11.2+dfsg-3ubuntu4 ipe-tools/20150406-3build1 libreoffice/1:5.0.2-0ubuntu4 pdf2djvu/0.9.2-3build1 pdf2htmlex/0.14.6+ds-1build1 poppler/0.37.0-0ubuntu1 popplerkit.framework/0.0.20051227svn-7.1build7 texlive-bin/2015.20150524.37493-7build1 xpdf/3.03-17ubuntu3
[11:29] <seb128> is the most bottom poppler mention
[11:29] <Laney> you probably want the first one
[11:29] <seb128> but maybe I still don't grasp that log :p
[11:29] <seb128> k, I though the most bottom one was the one to look at
[11:30] <Laney> i think it starts with the biggest
[11:31] <seb128> k
[13:00] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I'd like to reintroduce gir1.2-wnck-1.0 into libwnck because there is a new MATE component that requires it.
[13:00] <flexiondotorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwnck/+changelog
[13:01] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Shall I just provide a debdiff for libwnck in Ubuntu?
[13:01] <flexiondotorg> And file a sponsorship request?
[13:01] <Laney> Is this component going to go into Debian?
[13:01] <flexiondotorg> Yes.
[13:01] <flexiondotorg> I have to do it in Debian also.
[13:01] <Laney> You know the answer. :P
[13:02] <flexiondotorg> But libwnck doesn't sync from Debian does it?
[13:02] <Laney> It probably could/should do
[13:02] <Laney> I guess there was just no benefit or motivation
[13:02] <flexiondotorg> Benefit or motivation for what?
[13:02] <Laney> syncing/merging
[13:03] <flexiondotorg> OK, I'll do the work in Debian and request a sync/merge.
[13:03] <Laney> Basically, get it reintroduced there and then we can merge the package
[13:03] <flexiondotorg> Laney, Thanks.
[13:03] <Laney> Can help you sponsor it if you need that (e.g. if sunweaver doesn't want to)
[13:03] <flexiondotorg> sunweaver will upload the mate-dock-applet but isn't able to help with libwnck.
[13:04] <Laney> or whoever
[13:27] <qengho> howdy, y'all.
[13:29] <pitti> Laney: epic worker breakage> oops, I think that was me sending in a broken package name, I'll fix that and restart
[14:00] <willcooke> another theme fix: http://imgur.com/a4dTPWw
[14:00] <willcooke> in the works
[14:01] <willcooke> but notice that the close icons don't have a light background when the Gedit window isn't focused anymore
[14:01] <willcooke> like they do in the terminal window
[14:01] <willcooke> I found the :backdrop selector after a lot of searching
[14:01] <willcooke> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/gtk/gtkcssselector.c?id=3.6.4#n428
[14:01] <willcooke> \o/
[14:18] <Laney> hey qengho
[14:34] <robski> tkamppeter, I was given your name by Laney in #ubuntu-motu
[14:34] <robski> You would be the person looking after the CUPS package for Ubuntu ?
[15:04] <robski> hi all
[15:04] <robski> anyone here who is somehow dealing with the CUPS package in Ubuntu ?
[15:04] <willcooke> robski, tkamppeter is your man, looks like he's just timed out. He'll be back
[15:06] <Laney> robski: You could email him if you don't manage to get on at the same time too ([email protected] it seems to be)
[15:07] <robski> thx again Laney ;-)
[15:12] <willcooke> larsu, how can I start the inspector in gnome-terminal?
[15:26] <willcooke> larsu, actually, ignore. I'm going to install X on my test machine where i expect it will just work because terminal is newer
[15:41] <willcooke> Can someone on X do: In Terminal: Edit -> Preferences -> Profiles -> Highlight Unnamed -> Edit
[15:44] <pitti> Highlight?
[15:44] <willcooke> click on, make sure it's selected
[15:44] <willcooke> it should be anyway
[15:44] <willcooke> oh
[15:44] <willcooke> but before you do
[15:44] <pitti> in which tab is this?
[15:44] * pitti tries to find it in the German translation
[15:44] <willcooke> if it's the same as mine it will crash
[15:45] <willcooke> I guess Edit any one will do the same
[15:45] <pitti> in Colors?
[15:45] <willcooke> For me Edit -> Prefs -> Edit crashes the termianl
[15:45] <pitti> I have Profiles → {Unnamed, profile settings}
[15:45] <pitti> unnamed is already selected, profile settings brings up a dialog which works
[15:45] <Laney> This works on 3.16
[15:46] <Laney> Maybe it broke in the update
[15:46] <pitti> willcooke: do I need two profiles for this?
[15:46] <pitti> I only have one "Unnamed" one
[15:46] <willcooke> pitti, same here, only one. But its opening the edit window which causes the crash
[15:47] <pitti> ah, I have gtk 3.18, but presumably I haven't restarted my session yet today
[15:47] <Laney> I mean gnome-terminal 3.18
[15:47] * Laney is upgrading to check
[15:47] * pitti tries in a guest session
[15:47] <pitti> 2015-11-05 06:25:15 status installed gnome-terminal:amd64 3.18.1-1ubuntu1
[15:48] <pitti> nah, that's ancient, over a week old already
[15:48] <pitti> so that's not it
[15:48] * Laney isn't on it
[15:48] <pitti> I thought you meant gtk
[15:48] <Laney> and I am on gtk 3.18, been running that since october already :P
[15:48] <pitti> eh, guest session crashes
[15:48] <willcooke> same here, guest session crashes
[15:48] <Laney> yeah seb128 said that
[15:49] <Laney> assuming he is looking into it ... :)
[15:49] * Laney runs
[15:49] <willcooke> :)
[15:49] * willcooke looks to see if there is already a bug
[15:49] <pitti> there, freshly booted with xenial dist-upgraded 5 mins ago
[15:49] <pitti> with gtk 3.18
[15:50] <pitti> willcooke: so, I can't reproduce your terminal edit bug; in the "Profiles" menu there's a selector for the profile which is completely inert (as there's only one profile), and the "Profile settings"
[15:50] <larsu> willcooke: you can also always start an app with GTK_DEBUG=interactive set, which pops up the inspector immediately
[15:50] * Laney feeds dpkg some hamsters
[15:51] <larsu> willcooke: (sorry for the long time to reply, had no net)
[15:51] <Laney> larsu: not for gnome-terminal
[15:51] <willcooke> erk, now my terminal menu has vanished :)
[15:51] <larsu> Laney: not even for gnome-terminal-server
[15:51] <larsu> ?
[15:51] <Laney> yes
[15:51] <Laney> yes I mean I assume that works
[15:51] <willcooke> larsu, yeah I tried that, as laney said didn't work
[15:52] <Laney> but the instruction to just start an app is misleading in this case
[15:52] <larsu> indeed
[15:52] <larsu> can't even start it from the preferences window
[15:52] <Laney> [1] 25554 segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/lib/gnome-terminal/gnome-terminal-server --app-id=com.foo
[15:53] <larsu> is g-t doing something speciual again???
[15:53] <Laney> ROBERT UNDERSCORE ANCELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[15:53] <larsu> what crashes?
[15:53] <willcooke> http://www.imgur.com/42lXbWH
[15:54] <willcooke> If I click Edit there it crashes terminal
[15:54] <Laney> I'll look
[15:54] <pitti> wow, how do you get there
[15:54] <Laney> this definitely broke in the 3.18 update
[15:55] <willcooke> Shall I open a bug?
[15:55] <Laney> no
[15:56] <pitti> great, now I have two "unnamed" profiles
[15:56] <pitti> how do I get the profile editor?
[15:56] <Laney> Edit -> Preferences -> Profiles
[15:57] <pitti> oh, in the menu
[15:57] <pitti> thanks
[15:58] <pitti> yep, got it
[15:58] * pitti waves good evening
[15:58] <willcooke> o/
[16:19] <willcooke> larsu, those theme changes are nasty on X
[16:19] <willcooke> fixing....
[16:19] <robski> hi tkamppeter, I did sent you an email regarding CUPS package , could you pls have a glimpse ?
[16:24] <Laney> gnome-terminal is uploaded
[16:25] <larsu> I think we do have found a new maintainer for the theme :D
[16:26] <willcooke> it's making me sad now
[16:26] <willcooke> :)
[16:27] <larsu> haha
[16:27] <willcooke> I guess I'll get faster as I learn more, but right now it's taking me a looooong time to find the right selectors
[16:27] <willcooke> Presumably I only need to make sure it works on 16.04 right? Like, if it breaks 15.10 then we just don't include it there?
[16:27] <tkamppeter> robski, found it, will have a look.
[16:27] <robski> thx
[16:42] <Laney> seb128: I think this is the list of stuff to remove/demote http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13228592/
[16:43] <Laney> some of the things are in xenial-proposed already and FTBFS... I guess in that case just remove from xenial release?
[16:43] <Laney> that's packages which ftbfs and reverse-depends src:pkg ; reverse-depends -b src:pkg
[16:46] <Laney> but please do check I didn't mess it up
[17:40] <seb128> Laney, k, going to have a look tomorrow morning
[17:41] <Laney> thanks!
[17:41] <seb128> yw!
[17:41] <Laney> going to get this one done
[17:41] <Laney> if it kills me >:|
[17:48] <czajkowski> Laney: awww we don't want that to ever happen
[17:48] <Laney> I was imagining a scene in 70 years time (!!!)
[17:48] <Laney> me on my death bed
[17:48] <Laney> phone goes off
[17:49] <Laney> [ubuntu/85.04] gsl 2.0+dfsg-1ubuntu1 (Accepted)
[17:50] * Laney dies happy
[17:52] <czajkowski> Laney: we need to work on your death bed scene!
[17:52] <czajkowski> if that;s the final think you think of you need to ge tout more
[17:53] <Laney> Make sure you get my number of uploads engraved on my headstone
[17:53] <czajkowski> am sure many of you are going to FOSDEM, just a reminder a lot of the CFPs close this month
[17:53] <Laney> Here lies Laney, core-dev, DD, <tiny> father, husband </tiny>
[17:54] <czajkowski> Laney: lost for words!
[17:55] <Laney> oh and include my GPG key on a USB stick
[17:55] <Laney> need to upload from the next world
[17:56] <czajkowski> Laney: burried with laptop bike and usb stick, sorted
[17:56] <Laney> :)
[18:57] <ogra_> heh
[18:58] * ogra_ would have expected Laney to be the type of guy who puts "HTTP: 410" on his headstone
[19:02] <willcooke> :D
[19:02] <willcooke> ARGH!!!!!! Gtk's css is driving me up the wall. CSS which works in the inspector then stops working when loaded from the theme
[19:02] <Laney> :D
[19:02] <willcooke> It must be some specificity thing
[19:03] * Laney has dodged it so far, mostly
[19:03] <willcooke> gedit on X crashes quite a lot when I poke at it with the inspector as well which isn't helping
[19:03] <willcooke> hey ho, it's all good fun
[19:04] * Laney is off now, ttyl
[19:04] <willcooke> cya Laney
[19:04] <Laney> have fun willcooke
[19:05] <willcooke> Laney, fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!one six
[19:55] <willcooke> son of a....
[19:55] <willcooke> *now* I've fixed i
[19:55] <willcooke> t
[20:03] <willcooke> /* XXX temporary */ <--- who was this?!??!
[20:06] <willcooke> desrt, attente - are you guys off today as well?
[20:06] <attente> i'm here
[20:06] <willcooke> Isn't it a public holiday for you too?
[20:06] <attente> i don't believe so
[20:06] <willcooke> kk
[20:06] <desrt> no holiday for me
[20:06] <desrt> (afaik)
[20:07] <willcooke> ah, I see now.. except ON - which is what you guys are right?
[20:07] <desrt> there was some talk of it last year around this time, i think
[20:07] <attente> yes
[20:07] <desrt> some provinces have it, but it's not a federal thing
[20:07] <willcooke> That seems awfully unfair
[20:07] <desrt> it's actually OK with me
[20:08] <attente> i think it evens out in the end
[20:08] <desrt> all of the green-team ingress players who work at the government buildings around here have the day off
[20:08] <willcooke> XD
[20:08] <desrt> so the neighbourhood is nice and blue for a change
[20:08] <attente> except they're out in the rest of the city changing other things green
[20:08] <desrt> not my concern :)
[20:09] <desrt> during the normal 9-5 weekdays, i swear these people never actually work
[20:09] <willcooke> Ingress hasn't really caught my attention. I think because I live in the sticks there is no action around me
[20:09] <desrt> ya. it's tough if there is nothing to do
[20:09] <desrt> but i have the opposite problem
[20:10] <desrt> i live in a constant war zone. it sucks.
[20:10] <willcooke> Do you guys have any ideas as to why the CSS I put in the inspector works fine but when I load it from the theme is doesnt work at all
[20:10] <willcooke> ?
[20:11] <desrt> precedence?
[20:11] <willcooke> So I should try and load it as late as possible?
[20:11] <desrt> the inspector has very high precedence
[20:11] <willcooke> Can I help that with being more selective in my selectors?
[20:11] <attente> does the theme need to be re-compiled?
[20:11] <desrt> are you doing it via a custom-loaded .css file or the theme, proper?
[20:12] * desrt isn't super-familiar with css rules on this stuff
[20:12] <willcooke> I'm copying it in to the theme's gedit.css file and then reloading gedit
[20:12] <desrt> gedit.css is a resource, right?
[20:12] <willcooke> yeah, it gets included
[20:12] <willcooke> lemme see where
[20:13] <willcooke> gtk-main.css imports it
[20:13] <desrt> gtk-main.css imports gedit.css?
[20:13] <willcooke> I could try and move gedit to the end, see if that helps...
[20:13] * desrt raises eyebrow
[20:13] <willcooke> ya
[20:13] <willcooke> line 61
[20:14] <willcooke> /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0/gtk-main.css
[20:14] * desrt feels ill
[20:14] <willcooke> oh
[20:15] <willcooke> hold on
[20:15] <willcooke> oh, no ignore
[20:49] <willcooke> \o/
[20:49] <willcooke> I had to use a very long selector but now it works
[21:55] <willcooke> Alright - I am fairly victorious
[21:55] <willcooke> but now I'm not happy with the colour scheme
[21:55] <TheMuso> Oh hey willcooke. :)
[21:55] <willcooke> hey TheMuso!
[21:55] <willcooke> I'm learnding
[21:56] <willcooke> I'm going to call it a day now and carry on playing in the morning
[21:56] <willcooke> ta ta
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[10:02] <Noskcaj> ali1234, What's the command to regenerate the ui.h file in mousepad? It's been about 6 months since i've done anything linux
[10:31] <ali1234> Noskcaj: i don't know, sorry
[10:35] <Noskcaj> all good. Anyone?
[11:05] <flocculant> bluesabre: bug 1515184
[11:31] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: need to build with --enable-maintainer-mode
[11:32] <bluesabre> flocculant: you're finding some crazy bugs these days
[11:34] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: so with that, you can build it and grab the update ui.h file to add to your patch
[11:35] <flocculant> bluesabre: you told me too :p
[11:35] <bluesabre> flocculant: and you're exceeding my expectations ;)
[11:36] <flocculant> ha ha
[11:37] <flocculant> bluesabre: I can wait till March and report them all at once if you'd prefer :D
[11:37] <bluesabre> D:
[11:41] <flocculant> bluesabre: I'm sure this has just turned up - I've done that 'category' stuff before with no problem
[11:41] <flocculant> also - don't know if you looked at the bug - but I confirmed it with daily in vm
[11:48] <flocculant> bluesabre: mmm - actually thinking about it - this must be quite recent issue, pretty sure it was last week I was talking to someone in #xubuntu about how to do this
[11:48] <flocculant> I'd have double checked I wasn't talking to the moon locally - which would have been xenial :)
[11:48] <bluesabre> :)
[11:49] <bluesabre> I'll take a look... it's probably just some crazy gtk thing
[11:49] <flocculant> yea
[11:49] <flocculant> anyway - tagged the bug appropriately :p
[11:50] <flocculant> wish I knew how to debug things a bit more than just report them
[11:57] <bluesabre> flocculant: I'm not very good at debugging myself... just keep poking until I find the offending code
[11:59] <flocculant> :)
[11:59] <flocculant> one up on me then :p
[14:14] <knome> again, it seems like we should have a team-only list for votes and such
[14:14] <knome> flocculant, i pity you for having to figure out the voting...
[14:18] <flocculant> knome: well - luckily there are only a handful of mail addresses I need to recognise :)
[14:19] <knome> yep
[14:23] <knome> flocculant, what's your take on the user poll for the slideshow now?
[14:23] <flocculant> for 16?
[14:23] <knome> for 16 or anything else in the future
[14:24] <flocculant> bit ambivalent now - not sure we'd gain anything much
[14:25] <knome> mhm
[14:25] <knome> it's still on the blueprint
[14:25] <flocculant> is it?
[14:25] <knome> yep
[14:25] <flocculant> just copied from postpones I guess
[14:26] <knome> i suppose so :)
[14:26] <knome> i'll drop it
[14:26] <flocculant> *if* it ran for the whole of the next pre-LTS cycles there might be some use I suppose
[14:27] <knome> yep
[14:27] <knome> then again... meh
[14:27] <flocculant> yea
[14:27] <knome> we got pretty much replies from social media and ML's too
[14:27] <flocculant> we could do a 'shall we bring back synaptic' one :D
[14:27] <knome> lol
[14:27] <knome> no point in that... we'd get all "yes" replies
[14:27] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[14:28] <knome> "i vote for trump"
[14:28] <flocculant> :D
[16:18] <knome> ok, many things from the wiki are now moved to the contributor docs, including the strategy document with precursory formatting changes
[16:27] <flocculant> cool
[16:28] <flocculant> though perhaps strategy stuff should be at the beginning ?
[16:29] <flocculant> someone can deal with my mp now perhaps :)
[16:44] * dkessel tries poking bluesabre again to see if that will get him mousepad gtk3 builds in the -dev ppa :p
[16:49] <flocculant> you didn't use the pointy stick with the anti-forget-me-not powder
[16:52] <dkessel> if i knew what to do i would submit a MR or whatever is needed for that... *sigh*
[17:19] <knome> flocculant, dunno, i was also thinking it could be the first appendix..
[17:19] * knome shrugs
[17:19] <knome> dkessel, i can help you with that :)
[17:19] <knome> flocculant, i'll look..
[17:20] <dkessel> knome: that would be great
[17:20] <knome> dkessel, you have time now or shall we schedule for later today?
[17:20] <dkessel> i have time
[17:21] <knome> great
[17:21] <knome> let me merge flocculant's MP first..
[17:22] <knome> flocculant, done
[17:25] <knome> dkessel, where are you looking to do a MP?
[17:25] <dkessel> knome: i am not :D - i really just want the mousepad version from the x-dev ppa to be built against gtk3, just as the normal package is
[17:26] <knome> aha
[17:26] <knome> with that i can't help so much :P
[17:26] <knome> except
[17:26] <knome> bluesabre, POKE
[17:26] <dkessel> i guess that might mean modifying some branch or recipe that gets built
[17:26] <dkessel> heeh
[17:33] <flocculant> knome: thanks :)
[17:34] <knome> np
[17:35] <flocculant> and yea perhaps appendix
[17:35] <knome> i guess it depends whether the contributor docs will be the primary place for the strategy document
[17:35] <flocculant> right
[17:36] <knome> i would say it should be the place, because then it's tracked in a branch
[17:36] <knome> otoh, then the old cycle branches aren't updated with that
[17:36] <knome> unless we specifically do that
[17:36] <flocculant> I guess once it's all sorted out - then everyone who installs xubuntu will get a copy if it lives with normal docs
[17:37] <flocculant> knome: otooh - old cycle branches wouldn't have been brought to life under whatever processes are *now*
[17:37] <knome> :)
[17:38] <flocculant> so why would they need to refer to now :)
[17:38] <knome> i don't know
[17:38] <knome> to avoid confusion?
[17:38] <knome> "hey, i found this strategy document in the 9.10 release that says..."
[17:38] <flocculant> 'hey, I'd grab something up to date with a new supported install'
[17:39] <knome> yea
[17:39] <knome> but people
[17:39] <flocculant> unless docs can have a this was current at foo date ?
[17:39] <knome> sure can
[17:39] <knome> at least in some wat
[17:39] <flocculant> that's no different than old help files surely?
[17:39] <knome> *way
[17:39] <knome> nope
[17:39] <knome> not really
[17:41] <flocculant> meetings is wrong btw "The chairing team leader is cycled based on the team name." should be "The chairing team leader is cycled based on random ordering of the team name."
[17:42] <flocculant> :p
[17:42] <knome> or maybe the order is wrong :P
[17:42] <flocculant> :)
[17:42] <flocculant> I shouldn't be chairing for ages :D
[17:42] <flocculant> \o/
[17:42] <flocculant> I'll give Unit193 the good news :p
[17:44] <flocculant> I'll start from the top after I do the one in Dec
[17:52] <knome> the diff sucks, but http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/xenial/revision/479
[17:52] <knome> dkessel, now you can read about doing merge proposals on the contributor docs :P
[17:53] <dkessel> MPs are no news to me, knome :p
[17:53] <knome> well i thought they were, so i was motivated to write about them
[17:53] <knome> :P
[17:53] <knome> but of course i figured out earlier they weren't
[17:54] <knome> flocculant, one thing i've been wondering
[17:54] <knome> flocculant, how do we specify the teams in the section titles
[17:54] <knome> flocculant, i mean, currently, it feels a bit weird that we have "common" sections and team sections laid out like htis
[17:55] <flocculant> knome: I kind of added mine to the end - then when I did the newer one, it needed to go before the other 2
[17:55] <knome> yeah, sure
[17:56] <flocculant> knome: possible to have sections? Like docs/qa/dev/web
[17:56] <knome> i added some comments to help with the arranging of the pages
[17:56] <flocculant> then chapters in the sections?
[17:56] <knome> flocculant, testing and bugs could be subsections for the qa section
[17:56] <knome> but i'm not sure if that would be helpful in the long run
[17:57] <flocculant> right - not sure either
[17:57] <flocculant> though - it's not as if it's wiki and people can chuck stuff willy nilly
[17:57] <knome> we'll figure it out at some point...
[17:58] <flocculant> yep
[18:03] <flocculant> should put my name in credits I guess some time too
[22:01] <ochosi> evening all
[22:04] <knome> o hai ochosi
[22:11] <flocculant> evening ochosi
[22:13] <ochosi> hey flocculant
[22:13] <ochosi> wait, have you sent that email poll out yet or did i miss it?
[22:13] <flocculant> ochosi: I did - yesterday :)
[22:13] <ochosi> oh
[22:14] <flocculant> :)
[22:14] <ochosi> hmm, something's wrong with my inbox then
[22:14] <flocculant> sent it to -devel
[22:14] <flocculant> you'll find it eventually with votes from not-team :p
[22:16] <ochosi> haha, dkessel mentions something and follows it up with "dont reply to this!" - awesome communication technique there dkessel ;)
[22:16] <flocculant> :D
[22:27] <flocculant> knome: is the docs contributor page supposed to look like that now?
[22:27] <flocculant> if they're supposed to link to something they don't
[22:28] <knome> flocculant, i've been lazy and have not dropped all the links :P
[22:30] <flocculant> ok - that makes sense then :)
[22:30] <knome> yep
[22:30] <knome> besides, i'm not sure if we want to use the entities file for the website stuff yet
[22:31] <flocculant> right - well, imo if that page doesn't do more than what it does now - seems rather pointless as it stands is all :)
[22:32] <knome> i'll get it fixed before we push it online
[22:32] <flocculant> ok - just thought I would ask now :)
[22:32] <knome> sure, np :)
[22:34] <bluesabre> dkessel: yes, I have the tab open, and was going to fix that... will do it tonight :D'
[22:35] <flocculant> evening bluesabre :)
[22:35] <bluesabre> heya flocculant
[22:35] <ochosi> hey bluesabre
[22:35] <bluesabre> hi ochosi
[22:37] <flocculant> bluesabre ochosi - while you're both here a question ...
[22:37] <flocculant> have xfpm set to ask what I want to do when I press power button
[22:37] <flocculant> when screen is locked - press power button - shuts down
[22:37] <flocculant> is that expected?
[22:38] <ochosi> well, when the screen is locked i'm not sure whether xfpm is still the one receiving those calls
[22:38] <ochosi> cause you're at the greeter level
[22:38] <ochosi> you could test that by pushing the button before you log in (after starting up your laptop)
[22:38] <flocculant> ok - so if it IS a bug - not xfpm?
[22:39] <ochosi> my guess is that it's systemd's default policy for the button
[22:39] <flocculant> ochosi: mmm - this expected to be different to desktop?
[22:39] <flocculant> in the meantime - trying ^^
[22:39] <flocculant> brb
[22:40] <ochosi> nah, i guess it'd be the same on a desktop
[22:40] <bluesabre> flocculant: yes, I agree with ochosi there... at the login screen xfpm no longer has control
[22:40] <ochosi> but i haven't used one for ages..
[22:40] <flocculant> cool - thanks both
[22:41] <bluesabre> gotta run again, bbabl
[22:41] <flocculant> and yes that is what I see if I press at login
[22:41] <flocculant> ochosi: so to pass this along - if it IS a bug - lightlocker ?
[22:41] <ochosi> not really, no
[22:42] <ochosi> it's just the fact that systemd doesn't offer a nice way to be configured
[22:42] <flocculant> ok - I'll tell them systemd :)
[22:42] <ochosi> and in order to change this not only on a user-level but on a system level the power manager would have to become root/superuse
[22:42] <ochosi> and only the system-level applies at the greeter level
[22:42] <flocculant> probably not actually a bug at all
[22:42] <ochosi> so yeah, i think you won't have much luck with reporting this against systemd
[22:43] <ochosi> it's a design decision for them that it's not really configurable
[22:43] <flocculant> ok - it's not me so much as someone on the forums
[22:43] <knome> theoretically... if we want to stop using the wiki, where do we track meetings, meeting agendas and meeting minutes?
[22:44] <flocculant> theoretically I would say either trello or leave some things alone :p
[22:45] <knome> trello isn't good or archiving meeting minutes :P
[22:45] <flocculant> best go with B then :p
[22:45] <knome> maybe we need our own wiki for *some* things
[22:45] <knome> i guess if we had the team mailing list...
[22:45] <knome> :PP
[22:46] <flocculant> except
[22:46] <knome> or xubuntu-annonucements or sth
[22:46] <knome> with no typos
[22:46] <flocculant> the meetings, minutes and agendas aren't ours - we just hold the reins
[22:46] <knome> true
[22:46] <ochosi> i guess if the meeting stuff remains where it is and we move the rest i'd still be ok with it
[22:46] <knome> i haven't seen many non-team people adding agenda items though
[22:47] <flocculant> knome: maybe not - that's not the point imnsho :D
[22:47] <knome> agreed
[22:47] <knome> just wondering - theoretically, as you probably all can imagine
[22:47] <flocculant> I like us moving things like contrib/process/etc to where it's going
[22:47] * knome takes the mouse cursor away from the "delete" button on the meetings page
[22:48] * flocculant reaches over and gently helps move the mouse cursor ...
[22:48] <knome> lol
[22:51] <flocculant> bluesabre ochosi - thanks - passed that along the chain now :)
[22:57] <ochosi> np
[22:58] <flocculant> slickyma1ter knome: might revisit the offline help page now I'm not seeing <para> everywhere I look
[22:59] <flocculant> there's one sentence already annoying me ...
[22:59] <knome> flocculant, looking forwards for the MP ;)
[22:59] <flocculant> :)
[22:59] <flocculant> it'll certainly be a lot simpler this time ;)
[23:00] <knome> probably so
[23:03] * flocculant hates that pdf pages never correspond to what it thinks
[23:04] <knome> heh
[23:07] * flocculant didn't know about bzr pull
[23:07] <flocculant> and was always pleased to have a fastish connection
[23:08] <knome> ...congrats
[23:08] <flocculant> :)
[23:17] <flocculant> right - well goodnight those still with us
[23:18] <knome> nighty flocculant
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.357524
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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"ali1234",
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"channel": "#xubuntu-devel"
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-nl
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[15:08] <jules1> hoi, ik probeer spotify te openen in app mode in chrome via een .desktop app, dit werkt nu perfect en zelfs het icoon klopt. Nu is het helaas wel zo dat als ik andere chrome vensters open dat deze in de launcher onder het spotify icoon terecht komen ipv hun eigen normale chrome icoon. Weet iemand hoe ik dit kan voorkomen?
[15:22] <jules1> heb het inmiddels gevonden, voor de geinteresseerden: StartupWMClass=play.spotify.com in het .desktop bestand
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.360428
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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"jules1"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nl"
}
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:01] <cmaloney> What's wrong with the audio?
[00:02] <Scary_Guy> choppy low qual, same with video. checked the settings, not my end
[00:02] <cmaloney> Ah
[00:02] <Scary_Guy> I figure youtube will be higher quality anyway
[00:04] <Scary_Guy> so I guess the only down side is I can't live chat about it. guess I'll go do some actual work, later guys
[00:06] <cmaloney> nuts
[01:17] <brousch> I'm making a logo for my consulting LLC, Rational Rooster. Opinions: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6Wp9Akf_CvRcE4zd1o5OHdpTkE
[02:43] <_stink_> brousch: maybe add a wattle under the beak?
[02:44] <brousch> I tried a couple of times, but it always looked like balls
[02:44] <_stink_> hahaha
[02:44] <_stink_> yeah i can see
[02:44] <_stink_> that
[14:14] <cmaloney> http://s39.photobucket.com/user/joelnro/media/eggheadjr.jpg.html
[14:14] <cmaloney> This is what I see with that logo, brousch
[14:33] <brousch> Interesting. Maybe I dredged it up from my subconscious
[15:17] <_stink_> haha, cmaloney++
[22:35] <Richard67> Is CHC still a go on Wednesday nights?
[23:24] <cmaloney> Yeah, it is
[23:25] <cmaloney> though I might not make it
[23:25] <cmaloney> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/105711849406316277146
[23:25] <cmaloney> That's our community
[23:25] <cmaloney> I post the events there
[23:25] <cmaloney> We're meeting at Bean and Leaf in Royal Oak
[23:26] <cmaloney> Assuming that you didn't already log off.
[23:26] <cmaloney> bugger.
[23:26] <cmaloney> Seriously, more than one minute please
[23:28] <_stink_> hah
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.363590
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
}
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-pt
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[00:04] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:01] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.364287
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"astroo-"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/11/%23ubuntu-pt.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-11-11-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[03:49] <cyberanger> Unit193: https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/ I'd like the websockets support personally
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.365148
| 2015-11-11T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-tn"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-ir
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[10:01] <mori> :)
[16:23] <abb4s> salam , chera vaghti az dastoore w ya top estefade mikonam too summary minevise 4 user ??!
[16:24] <abb4s> yani 4 user login kardan ??
[16:24] <abb4s> kasi nist ??
[22:23] <Linux> salam
[22:24] <Linux> سلام برا یادگیری لینوکس
[22:25] <Linux> از کدوم نسخه استفاده کنم؟؟؟؟
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.369806
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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"Linux",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-se
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[08:38] <sysop-rick> andol: tja! lyckades fixa mail funktionen tillslut :)
[08:38] <sysop-rick> lite allmän fråga, vad tror ni om denna trenden? http://internetworld.idg.se/2.22603/1.490218/de-vill-gora-brevladan-digital
[08:38] <sysop-rick> Kivra har tydligen köpt upp hela tjänsten brevo och tsm har dem vardera en halv miljon användare.
[08:41] <andol> sysop-rick: Gött mos
[08:43] <sysop-rick> andol: tror ni i teorin att man skulle kunna bygga en centraliserad management plattform typ som Kivra, men att man i teorin endast "tar emot" fakturor från en aktör?
[08:43] <sysop-rick> blir svårt att konkurera dels mot Kivra.. dels mot postens egna "epostboxen"
[08:43] <andol> sysop-rick: Har ingen åsikt just nu.
[08:43] <sysop-rick> men ponera att man får med skatteverket på tåget, och enbart kan skicka fakturor avsändandes skatteverket mot användare reggade mot den här app X
[09:35] <Hund> Zzz.. :D
[10:33] <goopen> Amoz: sup
[12:57] <pabj1> Halloj, någon som kan rekomendera en bra ircserver setup howto ? som passar 14.04... tack på förhand
[13:00] <andol> pabj1: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/irc-server.html
[13:01] <pabj1> tackar :)
[13:24] <Mathisen> passa på och fixa bnc samtidigt kan rekomendera znc där
[15:12] <Anarieth_> hmm, undrar varför jag tappar kontakten mot irc-servrarna lite då och då
[15:14] <Barre> Anarieth_: kanske är irc-servrarna som tappar kontakten med dig... *pooofff* mindblowing much deep
[15:20] <Anarieth_> Barre: det är förvisso sant ^^
[17:51] <Hund> :P
[22:11] <huttan> ls
[22:12] <awfie> ;)
[22:13] <huttan> Det går bra nu =)
[22:14] <awfie> fel fönster skriv? :p
[22:14] <awfie> ls -al e effektivare iaf för mig ;) hehe
[22:15] <huttan> awfie: nej fan. brukar använda ls ibland på irc =)
[22:15] <awfie> ./ls
[22:15] <awfie> hehe links
[22:15] <huttan> awfie: vad är ls -al ??
[22:16] <huttan> awfie: n/m tror jag såg nu när jag testade
[22:16] <awfie> shii jag har inte varit på irc sen .... hmmm när internet bestod till 50% av v90 modem ;)
[22:17] <huttan> ojdå
[22:17] <huttan> det var längesen =)
[22:17] <huttan> på den tiden vart det DALnet som gällde för mig
[22:17] <awfie> IRCNet och en satans massa netsplits för mig ;)
[22:18] <huttan> hehe
[22:18] <awfie> hehe la ner 2001/2ísh
[22:18] <Meerkat> quakenet har fortfarande gott om netsplits
[22:18] <Meerkat> jag menar gamesurge
[22:19] <Meerkat> om ni är sugna, välkomna in
[22:19] <awfie> tänkte att det kunde va skoj att kika på om det fortf bestod till 99% av a/s/l å massa bots ;)
[22:19] <awfie> hehe fan med 30+++ i ålder så är reflexerna icke game kompatibla längre ;)
[22:20] <huttan> därför du har gått tillbaka till mirkket och un1xx
[22:20] <awfie> nja splitsen var nog tyvärr i många fall självskapade då =)
[22:20] <huttan> fan va coolt jag skrev un1xx tyckte jag
[22:20] <awfie> haha l337speakzorz :p
[22:20] <huttan> Yes =)
[22:20] <huttan> Börjar bli en utdöd skill att besitta
[22:21] <awfie> hahaha faceboockspeakers finns det dock gött om =)
[22:21] <huttan> kanske skulle skapa en massa alias för att 1337a mitt bash så alla kommandon kan skrivas i 1337 versioner också
[22:21] <awfie> hahaha transposing txt -> binary ;p
[22:22] <awfie> koolish =)
[22:22] <huttan> c4t mongo.txt | gr3p 1337
[22:22] <huttan> next level shit
[22:22] <awfie> argh..... har fortf reflexmässiga smileys märker jag *pppft*
[22:23] <huttan> awfie: använder du ubuntu ??
[22:23] <awfie> bleh... ajjja.... finns fortf flood protection å sheit ? för jag tycker mig minnas en mycket öm bakdel när man skrivde för mycket för snabbt hehe
[22:23] <awfie> bas OS på denna maskin är Ubuntu
[22:24] <huttan> awfie: finns väl på vissa bottar o shit som innan
[22:24] <awfie> vadan frågan om ubuntu?
[22:24] <huttan> bara undrade allmänt =)
[22:24] <awfie> usch ... fortf eggdrops?
[22:24] <huttan> eggdrops will never die !
[22:25] <awfie> hahaha
[22:25] <awfie> hade varit knepigt att ligga i ubuntu-se med win10? eller kanske inte hehehe
[22:26] <huttan> hehe
[22:40] <awfie> uscha... nu blir det /quit härifrån...
[22:40] <awfie> but Iĺl prolly be back ;p
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.384151
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-ru
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[03:39] <andrex> шмутры
[03:44] <buriedalive> Здравствуйте
[05:54] <tagezi> утра всем
[06:00] <buriedalive> а обед можно?
[06:08] <andrex> можно у мну обед)
[06:45] <tagezi> нельзя, я тока позавтракал )
[07:11] <llorephie> >_>
[08:07] <buriedalive> andrex вот и у меня обед
[08:08] <buriedalive> был
[08:08] <buriedalive> только что
[08:09] <andrex> поздравляю) праздновать будем?
[08:09] <andrex> обед)
[08:09] <buriedalive> это как? :)
[08:09] <buriedalive> праздновать
[08:10] <andrex> ну пожркм)
[08:10] <andrex> е
[08:10] <buriedalive> рюмочку водочки что ль? иль тортики?
[08:10] <andrex> тортики лучше
[08:11] <andrex> тортик такой из кусков мяса)
[08:11] <buriedalive> оо вот!
[08:11] <buriedalive> тортик из мяса - это дело
[08:11] <buriedalive> или пиццу закажем?
[08:12] <andrex> тортик из пицы ещене видел)
[08:12] <buriedalive> да я и тортик из мяса не едал еще
[08:12] <buriedalive> так только, представил что-то мясное
[08:13] <buriedalive> как раз вон анти-пиццу взгрели
[08:13] <buriedalive> аж вылетел
[08:13] <JohnDoe_71Rus> из мяса не знаю а из печени есть
[08:13] <andrex> пицу развозить побежал
[08:14] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://naobed.kz/uploads/posts/2014-01/1389896271_zakusochnyj-tort-iz-pechenki.jpg
[08:15] <andrex> да мне пофиг хоть из ДСП, хочу тортик)
[08:17] <buriedalive> andrex на мотороллере?
[08:17] <andrex> пешком
[08:18] <andrex> ему не зя мотороллер
[08:18] <andrex> он наказан
[08:18] <buriedalive> у нас летом тут ездят пиццеристы, кажется из этого как его там - папа джонс что ли
[08:19] <andrex> у нас студни задолбали тих пап джонс вызывать причем по ночам)
[08:20] <buriedalive> даже датчики какие то к ним прикрутили gps, можно сразу в инете смотреть где он там едет на своём мотороллере
[08:21] <buriedalive> а что, наверно удобно, пробки объезжает
[08:21] <JohnDoe_71Rus> карт персональная или всех видно? на каком ближайшем перекрестке можно себе пиццу отжать
[08:21] <buriedalive> персональная только, не всех
[08:22] <JohnDoe_71Rus> жаль, было бы удобно
[08:22] <buriedalive> по ночам студням наверно закуска под водочку, а то чо это по ночам только
[08:23] <JohnDoe_71Rus> после секаса жор нападает
[08:23] <buriedalive> JohnDoe_71Rus а так бы подбежал, как в гта, да? хлысь по лицу, забрал пиццу и был таков! :)
[08:23] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ага )
[08:24] <buriedalive> во кстати
[08:24] <buriedalive> в гта это было хорошо показано
[08:24] <buriedalive> насчет этих пиццеристов на мотороллерах
[08:25] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://gta3vc.ru/uploads/posts/2012-10/1350114661_pizzaboy-gtavc-ride-front.jpg
[08:26] <buriedalive> хех, точняк)
[08:26] <buriedalive> точь-в-точь картинка
[08:27] <buriedalive> играл когда то на виндовс еще
[08:28] <buriedalive> чо там было то? xp
[10:33] <Artur_Prosto> привет всем. при подключении по ssh выдаёт Write failed: Broken pipe. сталкивался кто ?
[10:34] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ты сломал пипу
[10:40] <Artur_Prosto> как ? вчера всёещё работало. сегодня утром уже нет
[10:40] <Artur_Prosto> как исправить ?
[10:49] <Artur_Prosto> решено
[10:50] <SergeyIT> как?
[18:25] <vamadir> привет
[18:32] <vamadir> iptables -t nat -A SHADOWSOCKS -d serverIP -j RETURN
[18:32] <vamadir> iptables -t nat -A SHADOWSOCKS -d 127.0.0.0/8 -j RETURN
[18:32] <vamadir> iptables -t nat -A SHADOWSOCKS -d 192.168.0.0/16 -j RETURN
[18:32] <vamadir> iptables -t nat -A SHADOWSOCKS -p tcp --dport 1025:65535 -j RETURN
[18:32] <vamadir> iptables -t nat -A SHADOWSOCKS -p tcp -j REDIRECT --to-ports 1080
[18:32] <vamadir> хочу спросить по поводу iptables, правильно ли я делаю? Мне нужно все пустить через прокси кроме локалки и нестандартные порты тоже.
[18:44] <Sergey_IT> вечера
[18:52] <tagezi> Sergey_IT: и тебе )
[18:55] <artemz> вечер
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.409442
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-it
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[07:17] <espedito85> Buongiorno a tutti: sono nel panico totale. Non ho mai usuato ubuntu, ho comprato un PC nuovo con WINDOW 10, ed essendo molto lento ho voluto provare a sostituirlo con UBUNTU in quanto ne ho sempre sentito parlare molto bene. Dopo avere scaricato la versione 13.04 (filo .iso) l'ho messo su una chiavetta su cui avevo già installato WUBI. Ho seguito
[07:17] <espedito85> la procedura (scegliendo opzione di sostituire del tutto WINDOW con UBUNTU), terminata l'installazione il pc si è riavviato in automatico (non ho ancora mai raggiunto il desktop grafico classico) e si è avviata la prompt dei comandi, che prendo adesso atto chiamarsi Shell dei comandi. Inserito login e password non ho idea di cosa fare per u
[07:17] <espedito85> scire di li e andare al classico desktop grafico. Ho provato a inserire diverse combinazioni trovate online o suggeritomi come "startx" e "ctrl+alt+f7" ma niente. https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/wxzhsCFRDCJaIx2xg7JQ https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/iHLrolktSnqyqEo5Us77 https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/5B6kF618S0KkUpFtlWZw
[07:18] <espedito85> Qui il primo file mostra la schermata shell classica, la seconda quello che appare digitando "start x"
[07:49] <espedito85> Buongiorno a tutti: sono nel panico totale. Non ho mai usuato ubuntu, ho comprato un PC nuovo con WINDOW 10, ed essendo molto lento ho voluto provare a sostituirlo con UBUNTU in quanto ne ho sempre sentito parlare molto bene. Dopo avere scaricato la versione 13.04 (file .iso) l'ho messo su una chiavetta su cui avevo già installato WUBI. Ho seguito
[07:49] <espedito85> la procedura (scegliendo opzione di sostituire del tutto WINDOW con UBUNTU), terminata l'installazione il pc si è riavviato in automatico (non ho ancora mai raggiunto il desktop grafico classico) e si è avviata la shell dei comandi.
[07:49] <espedito85> Inserito login e password non ho idea di cosa fare per uscire di li e andare al classico desktop grafico. Ho provato a inserire diverse combinazioni trovate online o suggeritomi come "startx" e "ctrl+alt+f7" ma niente.
[07:49] <espedito85> Dopo avere inserito "starx" mi appare una schermata con una lunga lista di scritte "initializing built-in extension..." e al fondo di questa lista "fatal error, no screens found".
[07:49] <espedito85> Sono bloccato e non ho idea di cosa fare. Chiedo aiuto dispertamente.
[08:07] <glpiana> ola
[09:51] <faber17> ciao a tutti, a qualcuno è capitato che la versione 14.04 di ubuntu (32,64 bit) vanno in loop allo start nella live ?
[09:52] <Carlin0> faber17, controlla il md5sum della iso
[09:53] <Carlin0> !md5 | faber17
[09:53] <ubot-it> faber17: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[09:56] <faber17> @ubot-it ok farò il check, volevo però precisare che è un loop strano, mi chiede il login con nome e utente e password nel lancio da cd..
[09:57] <Carlin0> faber17, dove hai preso la iso ?
[09:58] <faber17> da questo sito: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download, l'ho fatto 2 volte, sia da torrent che da server, potrebbe trattarsi di qualche incompatibilità con il mio hardware?
[09:59] <faber17> Sony vaio vpceb4j1e :Chipset Intel® HM55 Express
[09:59] <faber17> Processore Intel® Pentium® P6200
[10:00] <faber17> memoria ram 4GB
[10:00] <faber17> Scheda grafica ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 2GB
[10:00] <faber17> 150 GB di memoria libera su 350 GB
[10:23] <gigirock> dadexix86, ciao mi hai mandato il tuo cello ubuphono ?
[10:24] <dadexix86> gigirock, è la prima volta che sento che sei interessato a comprarlo...
[10:24] <gigirock> dadexix86, ma si riescie a telefonare normalmente ? un utente dice che ad ogni chiamata si blocca tutto
[10:24] <gigirock> dadexix86, mai detto 'comprare'
[10:24] <gigirock> dadexix86, tu lo hai pagato ?
[10:24] <dadexix86> gigirock, beh, se sei interessato io lo vendo ;)
[10:24] <dadexix86> gigirock, sì
[10:25] <dadexix86> l'ho comprato nella seconda flash sale
[10:25] <glpiana> !chat | dadexix86 gigirock
[10:25] <ubot-it> dadexix86 gigirock: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:25] <gigirock> dadexix86, non dire comprare/vendere altrimenti si incazzano..... parliamo invece di test INERENTI al funzionamento del os ubuntu
[10:26] <gigirock> dadexix86, hai account fb ?
[10:27] <gigirock> dadexix86, sai accedere al terminale ?
[10:27] <dadexix86> gigirock, a me funziona benissimo, chiamate perfette senza disturbi (con entrambe le SIM), batteria che dura una vita (al momento l'ultima carica completa è di oltre 100 ore fa)
[10:28] <dadexix86> gigirock, ho un account facebook ma non lo dò in giro. puoi scrivermi in privato qui su irc o mp sul forum
[10:28] <gigirock> dadexix86, son felice per te ma volevo provare il webapp browser che c'e' caricato ora
[10:28] <dadexix86> gigirock, la grandissima pecca di ubu phone (che lo rende inutilizzabile per me) è telegram monco.
[10:29] <gigirock> dadexix86, in che senso ?
[10:29] <dadexix86> gigirock, chiedi e ti sarà dato (quando torno a casa, che il cell sta là)
[10:29] <dadexix86> gigirock, nel senso che gli sviluppatori Telegram (e qui Ubuntu ci può far poco) sono fermi a una versione senza stickers, bot, messaggi vocali.. è un mezzo miracolo che ci siano i gruppi a quanto pare
[10:30] <gigirock> dadexix86, eh penso che telegram abbia gia' finito la sua funzione antiwhatsapp
[10:30] <dadexix86> gigirock, non saprei, ormai coi miei amici usiamo solo più telegram...
[10:31] <gigirock> begli amici
[10:31] <glpiana> !chat | dadexix86 gigirock
[10:31] <ubot-it> dadexix86 gigirock: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:31] <dadexix86> gigirock, comunque se hai domande sul sistema chiedi, non stiamo a spammare
[10:32] <gigirock> !info telegram
[10:32] <ubot-it> Package telegram does not exist in wily
[10:33] <gigirock> no no non domando perche' non si puo' .... pare che gli argomenti ubuntu siano altri
[10:34] <glpiana> -.-
[10:34] <dadexix86> vaaaaabbè!
[11:02] <sin_> hola,problema non riesco a visualizzare le cartelle su ubuntu 14.0 lts
[11:09] <sin_> hola,problema non riesco a visualizzare le cartelle su ubuntu 14.04 lts ,ilsistema operativo si carica ma poi non entra nella schermata del mio account.si muove solo il mouse
[11:10] <Torpedo> Salve ragazzi, ho appena aggiornato il mio notebook, da allora non è più riconosciuto il mouse o la scheda wi-fi e quando tento di entrare nel mio account vengo rispedito alla pagina di login. Avevo notato che tra gli aggiornamenti ce ne erra anche uno kernel. Qualcuno ha avuto lo stesso problema? Idee per risolvere? Per scrivervi mi sono visto cos
[11:10] <Torpedo> tretto a usare MS Win10
[11:23] <sin_> ok a dopo
[11:30] <apiera> buongiorno
[11:30] <apiera> buongiorno, ho ubuntu stabile ultima relase, ho installato prima mysql da guida e poi jkd 6 di oracle
[11:30] <apiera> se mi collego a mysql mi da questo errore http://paste.ubuntu.com/13123338/
[11:30] <apiera> è una installazione pulita di ubuntu, non ho installato altro software
[11:48] <fra79> ciao a tutti, sto scaricando la versione di ubuntu 14.04.3 amd64 sul mio vaio vgn-fs315h, il mio laptop è in grado di farlo girare
[11:48] <fra79> ?
[11:49] <ExPBoy> !requisiti | fra79
[11:49] <ubot-it> fra79: requisiti is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RequisitiDiSistema
[11:50] <apiera> mysql
[11:50] <apiera> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'alessandro'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[11:51] <ExPBoy> !mysql
[11:51] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/MySql
[11:51] <fra79> a quanto pare è meglio lubuntu, dove lo trovo?
[11:52] <ExPBoy> !lubuntu
[11:52] <ubot-it> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | md5: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.04/release/MD5SUMS
[11:52] <apiera> ExPBoy ho seguito la guida, mi da listen ma non mi fa entrare...
[11:52] <ExPBoy> apiera, probabilmente l'hai seguita male
[11:52] <apiera> ho impostato la password nemmeno con mysql - p mi fa entrare
[11:52] <apiera> l'o già disintallato
[11:52] <apiera> reinstallato
[11:54] <apiera> ExPBoy: lo disistallo con il comando apt-get --purge remove mysql* e poi lo rinstallo
[11:56] <apiera> è partita l'installazione, michiede la password, gliela fornisco (semplicemente alessandro)
[11:56] <apiera> mysql
[11:56] <apiera> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'alessandro'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[12:02] <apiera> ok ora sembra che va
[14:48] <rojee> Salve ho un problema con ubuntu 15.04
[14:49] <rojee> Dopo aver aggiornato da 14.04 lts ubuntu non carica piú la schermata login e mi ritrovo una schermata con scritto "starting version 219"
[14:50] <Carlin0> rojee, come hai fatto ad aggiornare da 14.04 a 15.04 ?
[14:51] <rojee> Insieme a "[ 112.293726] sr 1:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline devices
[14:51] <rojee> Carlin0 mi é uscita la notifica mentre usavo il pc
[14:52] <novellino> ciao ragazzi, mi serve un aiutino
[14:52] <novellino> ho appena installato ubuntu e non sono molto pratico,
[14:52] <Carlin0> rojee, qualcosa non torna perchè non potevi saltare una release
[14:53] <novellino> volevo guardare skygo che però richiede silverlight, mi viene proposto in alternativa un'altro programma (mono) ma non so come installarlo
[14:53] <novellino> mi sapete aiutare?
[14:53] <novellino> http://www.mono-project.com/docs/web/moonlight/
[14:54] <rojee> Scusate crashata l'app
[14:54] <rojee> Comunque non lo so perché ha saltato delle release
[14:54] <Carlin0> !pipelight | novellino
[14:54] <ubot-it> novellino: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/InternetRete/Navigazione/Pipelight
[14:54] <Carlin0> segui la guida novellino
[14:55] <rojee> Ora posso solo usare il terminale
[14:55] <Carlin0> !ripristino | rojee
[14:55] <ubot-it> rojee: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[14:55] <novellino> quale guida? non la trovo
[14:56] <Carlin0> !pipelight | novellino segui questa guida
[14:56] <ubot-it> novellino segui questa guida: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/InternetRete/Navigazione/Pipelight
[14:57] <rojee> Come? Dovrei reinstallare tutto?
[14:57] <novellino> ok grazie
[14:58] <rojee> Non posso fare niente su pc quindi?
[15:03] <novellino> grazie ubuntu!!! da quanto di ho conosciuto il mio computer del dopoguerra è rinato.....viagra!!!!!
[15:05] <rojee> ?
[15:08] <sin_> hola! non riesco ad entrare nel mio account.il sistema si avvia,do la pasw entra ma non mi fa vedere nulla nemmeno lo sfondo.il mio sistema è il 14.04 lts montato su un hd da 56 g.
[15:09] <trustno1> salve, ho windows 8.1 e mint 17.2 in dualboot , posso modificare la partizione mint per installare anche ubuntu o sarebbe un problema
[15:10] <Carlin0> !veggenti | trustno1
[15:10] <ubot-it> trustno1: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[15:11] <Carlin0> trustno1, che ne sappiamo come sei messo ? posta almeno una schermata di gparted
[15:13] <novellino> ciao ragazzi, ho provato ad installare silverlight seguendo la guida http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/InternetRete/Navigazione/Pipelight
[15:13] <novellino> ma quando facccio il test non funziona lo stesso, consigli?
[15:14] <trustno1> simpatia saltami addosso eh ... la domanda sarebbe se posso restringere una partizione logica dove ho installato mint per crearne una terza e installare ubuntu .. non vorrei incasinare il grub o qualcos altro.. ora posto una schermata
[15:16] <Carlin0> trustno1, se tocchi la partizione minimo il grub lo devi ripristinare , ma il problema principale è : hai abbastanza spazio ?
[15:16] <Carlin0> !image
[15:16] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[15:16] <novellino> mi dice che il plugin è già installato, ma quando vado a vedere tra i componenti aggiuntivi- plugin, non c'è
[15:17] <novellino> risolto!!!
[15:17] <Carlin0> novellino, bene
[15:18] <trustno1> si direi di si , mint ha ora 115 gb 13 utilizzati
[15:19] <sin_> nessuna idea?
[15:19] <Carlin0> trustno1, eh ma io come faccio a saperlo ? lol cmq se è così da live riduci la partizione e poi installando ubuntu dovrebbe sistemarti da solo anche il grub
[15:20] <trustno1> Carlin0 si scusa hai ragione
[15:21] <Carlin0> bastano 25/30 GB trustno1
[15:22] <Carlin0> a tenersi larghi
[15:22] <trustno1> ok , la swap la condividono o serve una seconda area swap
[15:23] <Carlin0> la condividono
[15:23] <trustno1> scusa da cd live ora non mi fa fare il punto di domanda
[15:23] <trustno1> ok grazie 1000
[15:24] <trustno1> ubot it ... xanax 20 gocce al bisogno ah ah ah ...carlin0 grazie ancora
[16:58] <Andreas71> Buonasera a tutti
[16:59] <Andreas71> Ho installato con successo Ubuntu 15.10 su un Asus 1001px. Tutto ok tranne che per l'audio: perfetto in cuffia, muto dalle casse. Come risolvere?
[17:02] <krabador> Andreas71, sudo apt-get install pastebinit , da terminale
[17:02] <krabador> aplay -l | pastebinit
[17:03] <krabador> Andreas71, cat /proc/asound/card*/id | pastebinit
[17:25] <sin_> hola! non riesco ad entrare nel mio account.il sistema si avvia,do la pasw entra ma non mi fa vedere nulla nemmeno lo sfondo.il mio sistema è il 14.04 lts montato su un hd da 56 g.
[17:26] <krabador> sin_, cosa hai fatto prima che succedesse questo?
[17:27] <sin_> niente
[17:27] <krabador> sin_, riavvia , e dal grub selezioni la seconda opzione dall'alto
[17:27] <krabador> poi il penultimo kernel
[17:27] <krabador> vedi se funzioan
[17:30] <sin_> non funziona niente entro con la mia psw e stop.adesso sto provando con una pendrive.
[17:30] <krabador> sin_, hai provato il penultimo kernel?
[17:30] <sin_> scusa spiegati meglio
[17:31] <krabador> sin_, rileggi semplicemente
[17:31] <krabador> le ultime 5 linee, se hai problemi, chiedi
[17:33] <sin_> io non ci arrivo al grub
[17:35] <krabador> sin_, hai solo questo sistema, in questa macchina?
[17:35] <sin_> si
[17:38] <krabador> sin_, premi shift destro appena accendi la macchina, continuamente
[17:41] <sin_> fatto
[17:42] <krabador> ecco , prova un kernel precedente
[17:42] <sin_> opzioni avanzate?
[17:43] <sin_> recovery mode?
[17:43] <krabador> non recovery mode
[17:44] <sin_> ok gneric
[17:44] <krabador> proprio il kernel, ma il penultimo , ovvero quello col numero leggermente precedente
[17:44] <sin_> genricsi
[17:44] <sin_> si
[17:45] <sin_> niente stessa cosa
[17:47] <krabador> sin_, allora, stessa procedura, selezioni recovery mode, ti attacchi con un cavo lan, selezioni networking, successivamente root
[17:47] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:47] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:47] <krabador> ed incolli qui il link
[18:19] <Parmariu2> Dopo aver aggiornato a 15.10 non funziona piu niente
[19:05] <Camelx> buonasera a tutti
[19:07] <Camelx> Nell'ufficio dove lavoro c'è un server linux dove vengono condivisi tutti i file lavorativi, io dalla mia postazione (sotto windows) vedo la memoria del server come se fosse una memoria fisica collegata al mio pc, con una sua lettera ecc
[19:07] <Camelx> che tipo di connessione è?
[19:08] <Mr_Pan> Camelx, a che ti serve saperlo?!?
[19:09] <Camelx> Mr_Pan: volevo fare un collegamento del genere anche a casa mia
[19:11] <Mr_Pan> Camelx, è una condivizione di cartelle/file tramite server samba ...
[19:12] <Mr_Pan> dovresti leggere qualcosa in rete .. http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/Samba comincia da qui per avere un'idea
[19:13] <Camelx> Mr_Pan: sicuro? perché io oggi ho già una condivisione con server samba ma allle periferiche mi connetto con ad esempio //192.168.1.xx oppure tramite risorse di rete (quando lo trova)
[19:14] <Camelx> Se vado in risorse del computer vedo i dischi locali, HD, Cd-rom, memorie SD ecc
[19:14] <Mr_Pan> Camelx, la condivizione la puoi mappare con una lettera
[19:14] <Mr_Pan> Camelx, qui però non si da supporto per windows M;)
[19:15] <Camelx> Mr_Pan: ah si? non lo sapevo, interessante! Ma il pc sul quale ho samba e che volevo configurare ha ubuntu
[19:16] <Mr_Pan> Camelx, puoi mappare le connessioni con le lettere dall'altro pc ...
[19:17] <Camelx> capito, quindi è un impostazione dei client, non del "server"?
[19:17] <parmariu> Mi aiutate? Da quando ho aggiornato a 15.10 non o5engo quando accendo che la richiesta di una password e poi solo la riga comando ma non GRUB o altro
[19:29] <novellino> c'è modo di fare funzionare skygo?
[19:29] <novellino> qualcuno c'è riuscito?
[19:52] <sailor_moon> ciao, ripeto il mio problema: a volte all'improvviso lo schermo mi diventa così https://www.dropbox.com/s/cvsvdthqqegphq4/Schermata%20del%202015-11-03%2016-11-06.png?dl=0 e non so perchè...ho provato a non usare compiz, anche a disattivare la funzione compositor di xfwm4 ma ho sempre lo stesso problema...
[19:53] <sailor_moon> certe volte riavviare xfwm4 funziona ma altre no..
[20:12] <peppenapoli> come posso fare per installare una brother visto che il mimo pc non legge il pacchetto?
[20:13] <peppenapoli> cè qualcuno in chat che mi può aiutare?
[20:19] <sala> ciao ragazzi! qualcuno di voi è riuscito a far funzionare SKYGO?
[20:20] <krabador> !chat | sailor_moon
[20:20] <ubot-it> sailor_moon: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:20] <krabador> !chat | sala
[20:20] <ubot-it> sala: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:22] <sailor_moon> mhhhh non è un argomento valido in questo chan...?
[20:22] <krabador> sala, non ricevo privati, entra nel canale segnalato
[20:22] <sala> voglio sapere come far funzionare skygo su ubuntu, pensavo fosse inerente
[20:23] <krabador> sala, questo canale è adibito all'assistenza tecnica del sistema
[20:23] <sala> ah ok scusatemi, sono nuovo
[20:23] <krabador> nessun problema
[20:23] <krabador> sailor_moon, ho autocompletato male.
[20:23] <sailor_moon> ah ok
[20:24] <sailor_moon> boh insomma cosa posso fare? possibile che ogni volta le mie schede video non siano mai supportate bene?
[20:24] <Andreas71> Buonasera a tutti
[20:25] <krabador> sailor_moon, 1) a fare cosa 2)schede di risulta, mettono facilmente in situazioni strane
[20:25] <Andreas71> ho appena installato per la prima volta ubuntu 15.10 su un netbook asus 1001px
[20:25] <Andreas71> tutto ok tranne l'audio
[20:26] <sailor_moon> a funzionare normalmente...ho disattivato ogni compositor possibile e immaginabile e comunque ho lo stesso problema
[20:26] <Andreas71> si sente dalle cuffie ma non dagli speaker del pc
[20:26] <krabador> Andreas71, alle 18:02 ti era stato risposto
[20:26] <krabador> chiedendoti di mandare dei comandi diagnoastici
Andreas71, sudo apt-get install pastebinit , da terminale
aplay -l | pastebinit
Andreas71, cat /proc/asound/card*/id | pastebinit
[20:26] <sailor_moon> sul mio vecchio pc avevo una ati ed era un altro dramma
[20:27] <krabador> sailor_moon, il driver open ati è ottimo
[20:27] <sailor_moon> ai miei tempi non tanto
[20:27] <krabador> appunto
[20:27] <sailor_moon> comunque ormai è passato
[20:27] <Andreas71> grazie a tutti
[20:27] <Andreas71> provo subito
[20:27] <krabador> il driver open , sul 2D è meglio del catalyst
[20:27] <sailor_moon> mi frego? cerco alternative a linux?
[20:27] <krabador> sailor_moon, prova xubuntu direttamente
[20:27] <krabador> sailor_moon, il web è pieno .
[20:28] <sailor_moon> lo sto facendo...sto usando xfce col compositor di xfwm4 disattivato
[20:29] <krabador> sailor_moon, hai installato xubuntu, o xfce in ubuntu
[20:30] <krabador> visto che un paio di giorni fa hai detto di usare ubuntu
[20:30] <krabador> dopo aver avuto xubuntu per un po'
[20:30] <sailor_moon> ho scaricato tutto xubuntu...ho anche ubuntu però
[20:33] <krabador> "ho scaricato tutto xubuntu" ---> dovrebbe significare che adesso stai usando un'installazione di xubuntu?
[20:34] <sailor_moon> ho scaricato xubuntu da ubuntu e ora sono in una sessione di xfce
[20:35] <krabador> sailor_moon, installa direttamente xubuntu
[20:35] <sailor_moon> cosa cambia?
[20:35] <krabador> sailor_moon, come ti è stato abbondantemente detto
[20:35] <krabador> sailor_moon, ubuntu cl xfce != xubuntu
[20:36] <sailor_moon> ok
[20:36] <krabador> Andreas71, non leggo privati , sono disabilitati, scrivi in canale
[20:38] <krabador> Andreas71, non leggo privati , sono disabilitati, scrivi in canale
[20:38] <Andreas71> si scusami
[20:39] <Andreas71> ho digitatoi comandi da te indicati
[20:39] <Andreas71> ma ancora nulla :(
[20:39] <krabador> Andreas71, per favore leggi
chiedendoti di mandare dei comandi diagnostici
[20:39] <krabador> non sono quindi la soluzione, ma solo comandi per contestualizzare parte della situazione
[20:40] <krabador> vanno incollati qui i 2 link prodotti dagli ultimi 2
[20:40] <Andreas71> scusami, uso ubuntu per la prima volta
[20:42] <Andreas1971> rieccomi
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[05:36] <k_Tux> hola
[05:37] <k_Tux> hay alguien?
[11:34] <Enric> hola caracola
[11:35] <Enric> caguen vuestra madre
[11:35] <Enric> qe no respondeios
[11:35] <Enric> everybody needs a chance
[11:35] <Enric> come on everybdoy
[17:10] <sadalsuud> hola gente ... una duda
[17:11] <sadalsuud> tengo un script de instalación y agrego varios ppa pero hay una forma de aceptar todos de un solo enter?
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2015-11-06-#juju
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[01:04] <stokachu> how long does it take for a namespaced bundle to show up on my account?
[01:04] <stokachu> it's been 3 hours
[01:15] <lazypower> stokachu: you may need to file a bug, we had issues last week where bundles weren't getting ingested
[01:16] <stokachu> ah ok
[01:16] <stokachu> is that jujucharms.com?
[01:16] <lazypower> Yep
[01:23] <lazypower> stokachu - I am in no way prepared for whats coming in 7 minutes :D
[01:23] <stokachu> haha
[01:23] <stokachu> we could wing it
[01:23] <lazypower> Always do
[01:23] <lazypower> the magic is in post anyway ;)
[01:23] <stokachu> :D
[01:24] <lazypower> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/stokesisawizardandweregoingtoshowyouhow
[09:39] <gennadiy> hi all, i have returned with my question about deploy bundle from juju gui. i have checked it again and my services are not exposed after bundle deploy. is it known issue?
[12:52] <jeand> hi all
[12:53] <jeand> I pushed some changes to https://code.launchpad.net/~jean-deruelle/charms/trusty/mobicents-restcomm-charm/trunk
[12:53] <jeand> but I don't see the charm updated on https://jujucharms.com/u/jean-deruelle/mobicents-restcomm-charm/trusty/#revisions
[12:54] <jeand> while the changes to https://code.launchpad.net/~jean-deruelle/charms/bundles/mobicents-restcomm-mysql-bundle/bundle
[12:54] <jeand> were taken https://jujucharms.com/u/jean-deruelle/mobicents-restcomm-mysql-bundle/bundle/5/
[12:55] <jeand> does anyone have any clue on why this may be happenin ?
[14:20] <jamespage> tvansteenburgh, morning - quick question for you regards use of specific branches from git repositories in juju-deployer
[14:21] <jamespage> I'm trying todo:
[14:21] <jamespage> openstack-dashboard:
[14:21] <jamespage> branch: https://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-openstack-dashboard@stable
[14:21] <jamespage> but right now that's not working so great - is that the right syntax?
[14:23] <tvansteenburgh> jamespage: looking...
[14:24] <jamespage> tvansteenburgh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13124372/
hi all
I pushed some changes to https://code.launchpad.net/~jean-deruelle/charms/trusty/mobicents-restcomm-charm/trunk
but I don't see the charm updated on https://jujucharms.com/u/jean-deruelle/mobicents-restcomm-charm/trusty/#revisions
while the changes to https://code.launchpad.net/~jean-deruelle/charms/bundles/mobicents-restcomm-mysql-bundle/bundle
were taken https://jujucharms.com/u/jean-deruelle/mobicents-restcomm-mysql-bundle/bundle/5/
does anyone have any clue on why this may be happenin ?
[14:28] <tvansteenburgh> jamespage: try it with a commit hash
[15:03] <jamespage> tvansteenburgh, hmm ok - but I really need to be able to track a branch as it changes
[15:03] <tvansteenburgh> jamespage: right, i think that would be a new feature. was just curious if it works with a sha
[15:08] <jamespage> tvansteenburgh, no cigar with an sha either...
[15:10] <jamespage> tvansteenburgh, I think you're correct in that its a new feature
[15:10] <jamespage> tvansteenburgh, any thoughts on syntax in the bundle?
[15:11] <tvansteenburgh> jamespage: there are test cases for the path@rev syntax using both a sha and a tag :/
[15:11] <jamespage> odd
[15:11] <tvansteenburgh> jamespage: i'd stick with that syntax. not sure what's broken
[15:12] <jamespage> jeand, if you charm update has any charm proof errors, it won't injest into the charm store - that might be why
[15:16] <tvansteenburgh> jamespage: i think it's b/c the git clone uses --depth 1, so when it tries to update to the specified rev, it's not there
[15:17] <jamespage> tvansteenburgh, you may well be right
[15:17] <jamespage> tvansteenburgh, fwiw - git clone -b stable --depth 1 https://github.com/openstack-charmers/charm-ceilometer
[15:17] <jamespage> does the right thing ...
[15:39] <jamespage> ddellav: hey - when do you think you might have the port security MP up for review?
[15:39] <jamespage> I'd like to get that landed asap
[15:48] <jeand> jamespage, juju charm proof ./ worked
[15:48] <jeand> correctly
[15:49] <jeand> jean@jean-XPS13-9333:~/workspaces/juju-charms/mobicents-restcomm-charm/trusty/mobicents-restcomm$ juju charm proof ./
[15:49] <jeand> jean@jean-XPS13-9333:~/workspaces/juju-charms/mobicents-restcomm-charm/trusty/mobicents-restcomm$
[17:09] <jeand> jamespage, any other clues ?
[17:12] <jamespage> jeand, urm sorry no
[17:13] <jeand> what's the proper way to get more insights on this ?
[17:14] <jeand> is there a juju charm store support channel ?
[17:15] <lazypower> jeand - there is, 1 second let me fish up a link for you
[17:16] <lazypower> jeand - you'll file a bug with the details you outlined above and someone will take a look to see why its not ingesting
[17:16] <jeand> ah great
[17:16] <jeand> thx lazypower
[17:16] <lazypower> jeand - https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/jujucharms.com/issues
[17:29] <gennadiy> hi all, i have returned with my question about deploy bundle from juju gui. i have checked it again and my services are not exposed after bundle deploy. is it known issue? it's my bundle to reproduce issue - https://jujucharms.com/u/tads2015dataart/#bundles
[17:31] <lazypower> gennadiy - looking at your bundle here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tads2015dataart/charms/bundles/tads2015-demo/bundle/view/head:/bundle.yaml
[17:31] <lazypower> you have an incorrect key. THe proper key is 'exposed: true' - its past tense
[17:31] <lazypower> gennadiy: update that key, give it another go and let me know if you run into the same behavior
[17:33] <gennadiy> oh. i copied it from exported from juju-gui bundle.
[17:33] <gennadiy> there are `expose: true`
[17:34] <lazypower> gennadiy: if that fixes you up i'll file a bug against juju-gui to take a look
[17:34] <gennadiy> i will try
[17:34] <gennadiy> just a moment
[17:34] <lazypower> it may be an artifact/missing test coverage, etc.
[17:35] <gennadiy> but when i deploy this budnle from juju deployer services are exposed
[17:37] <lazypower> gennadiy - yeah, thats definately a bug
[17:37] <lazypower> if its exporting a syntax it doesn't handle
[17:37] <lazypower> 1 sec and i'll pass along a bug reporting link for you
[17:37] <lazypower> gennadiy https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+filebug
[18:51] <amz> is m3.medium the new default instance for ec2 as stated here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1373516/comments/7 by natefinch
[18:51] <mup> Bug #1373516: Switch default instance type from m1.small to t2.small/m3.medium for EC2 provider <ec2-provider> <juju-core:Fix Released by cherylj> <juju-core 1.24:Fix Released by cherylj> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1373516>
[18:52] <natefinch> amz: yes
[18:52] <amz> how to list current ec2 environments settings for default instance ?
[18:53] <natefinch> amz: it's totally based on juju version. if you're on 1.25 or higher, it's m3.medium, if you're on 1.24.x or lower, it's m1.small
[18:54] <amz> natefinch: it would be good to document new default on https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/config-aws
[18:54] <natefinch> amz: absolutely a good idea.
[18:55] <amz> natefinch: how to check current settings? is it really only related to version and no way to list current settings?
[19:00] <natefinch> amz: version is the only way. It's not an exposed configuration value, per se. You can override the default by specifying an instance-type or other constraint at bootstrap time, or by setting an environment-wide constraint after bootstrap.
[20:44] <amz> thanks natefinch
[20:45] <natefinch> amz: no problem :)
[20:48] <stokachu> lazypower: is bin/ exposed in the PATH for reactive charms?
[20:48] <lazypower> cory_fu - I'm pretty sure this landed recently, but pinging cory to confirm
[20:48] <stokachu> /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-hai2u-1/charm/bin <-
[20:50] <cory_fu> stokachu: I don't think the dir is automatically added to the path, no
[20:50] <stokachu> cory_fu: ok i was trying to decide whether to put scripts in its own scripts/ dir or use bin/
[20:50] <stokachu> but bin may overwrite that
[20:51] <lazypower> welp, i was wrong
[20:51] * lazypower hattips and ice skates away
[20:51] <cory_fu> Files put in there won't overwrite your scripts unless the filenames conflict, which I highly doubt they will
[20:52] <stokachu> ok cool
[21:08] <marcoceppi_> $CHARM_DIR/bin ;)
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[07:52] <sim642> I just had to reboot xubuntu 15.04 because for no reason at all it simply wouldn't see my wifi, but would see all the other wifis around here. This is super annoying
[10:18] <Sonu_> Hi when i am installing Magento extension on ubuntu . i am getting this error CONNECT ERROR: PHP Extensions "zlib" must be loaded.
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> Sonu_: what is magento an extension of ?
[10:27] <Sonu_> well_laid_lawn: why i am seeing this error.. i have installed alresy zlib
[10:28] <well_laid_lawn> Sonu_: the error says it's not running so try to start it
[10:28] <well_laid_lawn> I don't konw what zlib is
[10:29] <well_laid_lawn> !info zlib
[10:29] <Sonu_> https://www.namhuy.net/2430/install-enable-zlib-linux-server.html
[10:30] <Sonu_> well_laid_lawn: https://www.namhuy.net/2430/install-enable-zlib-linux-server.html
[10:30] <well_laid_lawn> Sonu_: is there a howto on that link to start it?
[10:33] <Sonu_> you can read about zlib
[10:33] <Sonu_> Why need zlib on your linux web server? zlib, gzip and mod_deflate on Apache HTTPD server compress your web pages and serve them to client’s web browsers which can save and reduce bandwidth usage. Most modern web browsers today like Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox supports both gzip and/or deflate. Enable zlib.output_compression setting in your linux web server will allow gzip compress pages served by PHP.
[10:34] <well_laid_lawn> I don't want to read about zlib - I don't use it. Someone in #ubuntu-server might be able to help
[10:35] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[10:41] <knome> well_laid_lawn, huh?
[10:42] <well_laid_lawn> knome: which bit confused you?
[10:44] <knome> well_laid_lawn, the blunt bit?
[10:45] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[10:46] <well_laid_lawn> maybe I could have thrown in a smiley
[10:47] <knome> maybe :)
[10:47] <knome> thanks for the consideration
[10:47] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[10:47] <well_laid_lawn> I typed with the best intentions
[14:01] <GeekDude> My computer shutdown unexpectedly, and it reset all my whisker menu settings. Is that overly strange?
[20:50] <kozukumi> anyone using plank here? i have a strange issue where i cant pin thunar to the dock
[21:01] <kozukumi> I am loving Plank as a dock on xfce
[21:01] <kozukumi> so good
[21:02] <kozukumi> http://i.imgur.com/NkH4mcs.png
[21:02] <kozukumi> :D
[21:03] <JohnnyComeL8ly> kozukumi, You are an über customizer....
[21:03] <kozukumi> nah not really
[21:03] <kozukumi> just icons and theme
[21:04] <kozukumi> this is my first real use of linux on the desktop
[21:04] <Meerkat> how do I move channels down to the bottom? Im running out of vertical space
[21:04] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Well, here's your much needed welcome!
[21:05] <Meerkat> kozukumi, that was for you
[21:05] <kozukumi> how can i make the whisker menu open on pressing the win/super key?
[21:05] <kozukumi> Meerkat, channels?
[21:06] <Meerkat> of hexchat
[21:06] <kozukumi> ah
[21:06] <kozukumi> view channel switcher tabs
[21:06] <Meerkat> oh, bummer. They do not wrap. :(
[21:06] <kozukumi> nope :(
[21:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> kozukumi, I changed my HexChat to be like yours... it is different - refreshing, perhaps?
[21:08] <kozukumi> yeah i prefer it
[21:08] <kozukumi> im only on a couple of channels at a time
[21:09] <kozukumi> compton is awesome as a compositor, beautiful video with no tearing or dropped frames :)
[21:09] <kozukumi> looks sexy
[21:10] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm somewhat maxed out... I'm connected to 2 servers and have 8 channels in all.
[21:15] <kozukumi> I love the snap to edge and other windows options :) http://i.imgur.com/iSijLPW.png
[21:19] <JohnnyComeL8ly> kozukumi, did you have to install crompton?
[21:19] <kozukumi> yeah
[21:20] <kozukumi> then i stick this in startup compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --vsync opengl-swc
[21:20] <JohnnyComeL8ly> So, by default, there is no compositor?
[21:20] <kozukumi> it uses the xfce compositor by default
[21:20] <kozukumi> not sure what that is called tho
[21:21] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xfwm4 http://blog.xfce.org/2004/10/xfce-window-manager-now-includes-its-own-compositing-manager/
[21:22] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I just ddg'd "xfce compositor" I know somewhere I've seen that same info.... xD
[21:23] <kozukumi> yeah but the xfwm compositor doesnt work as well as compton in my experience
[21:25] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I haven't notice any issues.
[21:26] <kozukumi> i got video tearing on youtube html5 videos at 60fps using the default compositor
[21:26] <JohnnyComeL8ly> And, I'm thinking of installing Openbox, for when I want to game. That way compositing doesn't get in the way of playing.
[21:26] <kozukumi> yeah or you can just kill the compton process and run again when finished gaming?
[21:26] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Which ones did you watch?
[21:27] <krytarik> JohnnyComeL8ly: You know, you can just disable it too. :P
[21:27] <kozukumi> loads of test videos
[21:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> krytarik, I was going to ask about that.
[21:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Can you point me to a link, please? :-)
[21:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Or if its a cmd.
[21:28] <kozukumi> you can do it via the window tweaks manager
[21:28] <kozukumi> on the compositor tab
[21:29] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ok, so according to what is there already, I should have no problems if I'm fullscreen?
[21:31] <JohnnyComeL8ly> krytarik and kozukumi, thanks for that help... it appears I needed it even though I didn't come here for it. xD
[21:31] <kozukumi> :)
[21:36] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xyz4 from linuxgaming2?
[21:37] <xyz_> hi! I unwillingly opened Pidgin and now this program runs during startup. How to change it? I don't see any wy to uncheck it in the preferences.
[21:37] <xyz_> *any way
[21:38] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Well, I don't like Pigin... so I would just remove it if you don't have use for it.
[21:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xyz_, Check ~/.config/autostart/ for a desktop application file that starts it.
[21:43] <xyz_> thx
[21:44] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Or, open menu -> Settings -> Session and Startup Go to the Autostart tab then un-check the box by Pidgin if it is there.
[21:44] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xyz_,
[21:44] <JohnnyComeL8ly> ^^^
[21:48] <xyz_> JohnnyComeL8ly: there is no /autostart/ in /.config/
[21:49] <xyz_> neither is pidgin in Session and Startup
[21:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Well, then it hasn't been set there....
[21:50] <xyz_> so why is there an pidgin icon (exactly envelope) amongst other applets?
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[01:04] <mapps> hm
[01:04] <mapps> well
[01:04] <mapps> i thought first was good
[01:04] <mapps> but 2nd was well just meh
[01:05] <mapps> anyone watch the player?7
[03:10] <mapps> noone around?
[03:36] <diddledan> morning mapps
[03:36] * diddledan just starting up mission impossible rogue nation
[03:40] <mapps> hm
[03:41] <mapps> what was one before
[03:41] <mapps> not sure i saw it
[03:41] <mapps> always overrated imo
[03:47] <diddledan> ghost protocol
[04:10] <mapps> hmmm
[04:10] <mapps> think i skipped
[04:40] <mapps> let me know how it is
[04:40] <mapps> im watching the player tv series
[05:39] <mapps> lol at the player
[05:39] <mapps> usual nonsense fighting in the plane one jumps out other jumps out without a parrachute then they're fighting while falling through the air
[06:39] <DaveyG> hi all, anyone heard of the kano?
[06:48] <mapps> not me
[06:48] <mapps> the kano?
[06:48] <mapps> diddledan ..good?
[06:58] <mapps> ?
[07:00] <DaveyG> its some kind od RPi build i think
[07:00] <mapps> never heard of it:D
[07:01] <mapps> back to the player, 1 more ep then sleep:D
[07:02] <DaveyG> lol
[07:03] <mapps> i kinda like it, although has some typical failures
[07:03] <mapps> 5 billion bullets fired..none hit him..yawn.,,hate that:D
[07:05] <DaveyG> sounds like a good, go to bed film mte
[07:05] <DaveyG> mate
[07:06] <DaveyG> I miss internet tv so much
[07:10] <DaveyG> what you using to watch mapps?
[07:19] <mapps> i just download everything
[07:20] <mapps> i dont bother streaming
[07:20] <mapps> i re-watch tv eps a lot..well some
[07:20] <mapps> DaveyG the player is a new series..nbc one:)
[07:21] <DaveyG> ah cool mapps
[07:42] <mapps> sleep time for me
[07:42] <mapps> i watch sunny in philly to fall asleep:)
[08:20] <diplo> Morning all
[08:22] <MooDoo> morning
[08:30] <mapps> night all:P
[08:46] <mapps> wow amazon fire tablet's kinda cheap
[09:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:18] <mapps> morning
[09:19] <davmor2> cracking morning song today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEPTlhBmwRg
[09:48] <Laney> hmm, Uber is launching here today
[09:57] <zmoylan-pi> so taxi drivers strike/protest in 3, 2, 1...
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Nachos Day! 😃
[10:01] * zmoylan-pi ponders trying a spice bag...
[10:02] <zmoylan-pi> the new irish delicay that is doing the rounds is the spice bag... http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/banter/spice-bag-voted-irelands-favourite-dish-34131293.html
[10:18] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:53] <mangamonk> ZenCODE
[11:09] <Laney> wtf
[11:09] <Laney> who sets off fireworks in the day?
[11:09] <Laney> and why did it sound so close to the windows?
[11:09] * Laney goes off to scout
[11:09] <SuperMatt> you can get daytime fireworks now
[11:12] <zmoylan-pi> lifeboat service near me still use maroons to summon crews as well as sms
[12:14] <czajkowski> Laney: they went on for hours last night here, a pug and fireworks = crazy running around a house
[12:14] <Laney> hah
[12:15] <czajkowski> eh no Hah
[12:15] <Laney> I went to a hilariously bad fireworks display at the pub
[12:15] <czajkowski> bonkers!
[12:15] <Laney> i think they had left them in the rain
[12:15] <Laney> so it took about 2 minutes to light each one
[12:15] <czajkowski> He wasn't afraid just wanted to bark and bark
[12:15] <czajkowski> and run around the garden in circles
[12:21] <foobarry> help!! i have 2 ruby versions installed, but ruby -v gives the correct one. bundle install is using the old version (which i need still)
[12:21] <foobarry> how can i tell bundle to use ruby2
[12:25] <foobarry> ahhh. hard coded in the bundle file
[14:48] <dogmatic69_> is it possible to use a shared ssh key?
[14:48] <dogmatic69_> Ie, need to git deploy from test server to live, multiple users doing deploys
[14:49] <dogmatic69_> or, might not need to do that actually...
[15:52] <ali1234> you can copy both the public and private part of a key anywhere you like
[15:52] <ali1234> whether it's a good idea or not is a different question of course
[17:53] <mapps> brrrr
[17:53] <mapps> cold
[17:53] <mapps> :D
[17:57] <DJones> yay, rebuilt server
[18:04] <MooDoo> DJones: yay
[18:06] <DJones> Old server died last week with processor/heatsink issues, swapped the drive out into an identical case, but wouldn't get internet connection & too busy to trouble shoot, turned out to be eth0 had become eth1 after transferring the drive into the new case
[18:06] <DJones> Ah well, back on irc again :)
[18:07] <zmoylan-pi> can't stop the signal mal
[18:08] <MooDoo> cool, back to normal then :D
[18:08] <davmor2> MooDoo: you can talk RHEL pfffff weirdo ;)
[18:09] <MooDoo> davmor2: only my storage server :p website still runs ubuntu :p
[18:10] <MooDoo> better not mentioned my virtual hosts lol
[18:10] <davmor2> MooDoo: windows I bet I know what you're like ;)
[18:11] <MooDoo> davmor2: for the moment yes lol not sure if to change them to ubuntu/gluster/kvm or centos/gluster/kv
[18:11] <MooDoo> they are getting changed this weekend :D
[18:12] <davmor2> MooDoo: you mean you still haven't played with lxd?
[18:12] <MooDoo> davmor2: not yet, i'm waiting to see if I get a new server for christmas then i'm playing with MAAS/juju
[18:14] <davmor2> MooDoo: you don't need to do that https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/try-it/ http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22625/an-introduction-to-lxd-the-container-hypervisor/
[18:16] <MooDoo> you're going to scramble my brain you are davmor2
[18:17] <davmor2> MooDoo: why you get to play with it now you'll be an expert by the time you get your server :P
[18:19] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah I've just had a quick go with it :)
[18:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: watch the demo video it really will play with your head
[18:42] <DJones> MooDoo: Yep, back to normal thankfully
[19:02] <diddledan> evening
[19:15] <diddledan> wow, someone actually claims to have a valid mathematical model for time travel: http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/future-tech/this-man-is-closer-than-ever-to-building-the-world-s-first-time-machine-1308032
[19:17] <DJones> diddledan: Given that there appears to be no evidence of anybody travelling back in time from the future, I guess his research has been discounted
[19:19] <DJones> As in the guy's father still passed away when he did, sonothing changed there
[19:19] <diddledan> the premise is that any time travel can only occur as far back as the first device was turned on to be able to receive
[19:21] <zmoylan-pi> there's probably a self limiting problem associated with time travel... like you invent time machine, use lotto numbers and time machine to get rich and then retire to your own private island populated with angelina jolie clones you grew in future... :-)
[20:28] <popey> Primer. Watched that half a dozen times. Still don't quite get it.
[20:29] <popey> Need to watch it slowly, pausing and having one of those documents to guide me through.
[20:38] <mapps> whats that
[20:42] <popey> a film about time travel
[20:42] <popey> low budget cult following
[20:46] <foobarry> detectorists \o/
[20:46] <popey> now?
[20:47] <mapps> so my order went leeds-> east mids->gatwick->barca->sevilla->malaga
[20:47] <mapps> i guess next stop gib
[20:47] <mapps> seems a long awkward route
[20:47] <foobarry> popey: series 2 ep2 just watching on my box
[20:47] <popey> oh, it was on yesterday
[20:47] <popey> will watch that later
[20:47] <foobarry> it makes me happy
[20:47] <popey> ditto
[20:47] <foobarry> wistful and relax
[20:47] <popey> sunny days
[20:47] <foobarry> warm sunny day with bird song
[20:47] <popey> nice landscapes, quiet places
[20:47] <foobarry> they got the formula perfect
[20:47] <foobarry> maybe an old plane flying overheard
[20:48] * popey goes back to playing GTA5 :)
[20:48] <mapps> ;]
[20:48] <foobarry> the crack of leather on willow
[20:48] <mapps> im going to gauchos in a bit yay
[20:48] <mapps> my favourite restaurant:D
[20:48] <foobarry> i had the strangest sausage in the week
[20:48] <foobarry> from a gastropub
[20:48] <mapps> lol strange how
[20:48] <foobarry> called napoli sausage
[20:48] <foobarry> it tasted...odd
[20:49] <foobarry> strong peppery flavour but something else weird
[20:49] <foobarry> maybe fennel
[20:49] <popey> hops?
[20:49] <foobarry> wasn't very nice, and i've eaten a lot of sausages
[20:49] <foobarry> was also served with lentils and submerged in oil
[20:49] <popey> our local butcher does hoppy sausages
[20:49] <foobarry> rather unsatisfactory experience
[20:49] <popey> they're perfect for toad in the hole
[20:49] <foobarry> and the pork was pink in the middle
[20:50] <foobarry> yeah, fennel
[20:52] <mapps> do i take my passport hmm
[20:52] <mapps> dont want to go to spain really,so no!
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[07:19] <amon> moin. wie kann ich beim login per ssh auf einen server mit encrypted home veranlassen dass .bash_aliases gelesen wird, nachdem ich meine passphrase eingegeben habe?
[07:34] <amon> exit
[09:03] <Kirsten> Hallöchen, ich bin ja neuerdings stolze Besitzerin eines Lenovo x220. Allerdings habe ich nur eine normale Festplatte drin. Ich schaue mir jetzt immer schon die ssd Festplatten an. Gerne würde ich eine SSD zusätzlich einbauen, von der soll dann Ubuntu starten. Auch meine wichtigsten Daten sollen auf der SSD sein, damit ich schnell drauf zugreifen kann. Die weniger wichtigen Daten sollen dann auf der alten Festplatte sein. Könn
[09:03] <Kirsten> schwierig?
[09:04] <sdx23> Bei "könn" hört's auf. Ich empfehle auserdem die SSD Artikel im ubuntuusers Wiki. Und sich zu informieren, ob da noch Platz ist (imo nämlich nicht).
[09:05] <LetoThe2nd> Kirsten: wenn du von der zusätzlichen einbaumöglichkeit im wwan-slot sprichst: nicht übermässig kompliziert. erfordert halt etwas disziplin beim ablegen der daten (dein laptop weiss ncith automatisch was wichtig ist und was nicht)
[09:05] <Kirsten> ah, ja, den meine ich
[09:05] <LetoThe2nd> Kirsten: abgesehen davon ists immer einfacher, und meist auch sinnvoller die platte komplett zu ersetzen. neu installieren, fertig.
[09:06] <Kirsten> Neuinstallation hatte ich auch vor, aber ich wollte die alte Festplatte gerne weiterhin mitbenutzen, denn eine 1 TB ssd ist mir noch ein wenig zu teuer...
[09:06] <LetoThe2nd> dann ist eigentlich alles gesagt.
[09:10] <Kirsten> danke!
[09:17] <simpleUser_> Hallo. Wie muss ich einen Starter modifizieren damit er zwei anwendungen simultan öffnet
[09:28] <simpleUser_> Hallo. Wie muss ich einen Starter modifizieren damit er zwei Anwendungen simultan öffnet?
[09:29] <dadrc> ich würd ein script schreiben, das die gewünschen programme startet und im starter dann das skript aufrufen
[09:31] <simpleUser_> ja das habe ich mir auch schon gedacht. kommt mir aber so unsauber vor. gibts keine lösung dass im starter zu machen? google empfiehlt sowas wie bash -c "prog1 && prog2" aber irgendwie klappt das nit
[09:32] <LetoThe2nd> man könnte sich mal die spec anschauen ob mehr als ein exec-eintrag im .desktop file erlaubt ist.
[09:33] <dadrc> wenn es funktioniert und keinen blödsinn macht, ist es nicht doof :)
[09:33] <simpleUser_> @leto: und wo kann ich das nachlesen ?
[09:34] <LetoThe2nd> simpleUser_: google "desktop file specification"
[09:35] <simpleUser_> danke. suche dann mal weiter :)
[13:00] <jokrebel> warum zeigt mein Grub beim Boot immer noch (unterhalb von Ubuntu) Windows 7 an obwohl dies längst auf Windows 10 upgegraded wurde. update-grub wurde bereits mehrfach versucht.
[13:02] <nagetier> jokrebel, ich denke das wirst du händisch eintragen müssen
[13:09] <jokrebel> nagetier: Das Windows 7 damals wurde ja auch automagisch erkannt.
[13:11] <jokrebel> wär was anderes, wenn ich den 7ener selber dahinter hätte malen müssen, damals.
[13:12] <jokrebel> Ist er Grub-Installer "dümmer" geworden?
[13:12] <nagetier> jokrebel, evtl unterscheidet sich der Bereich, der von GRUB ausgelesen wird, nichts so als dass er als Windows 10 identifiziert werden kann *vermut*
[13:20] <jokrebel> hm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/666317/grub2-shows-windows-7-instead-of-windows-10
[13:21] <jokrebel> wohl ein Bug. Hab aber nichts gefunden, dass er schon gemeldet wär. (Ich tu mich da immer so schwer ;-)
[13:24] <jokrebel> ah! doch schon gemeldet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/os-prober/+bug/1482851
[13:32] <jokrebel> Da ist zwar die Rede von Windows 8, aber wenn es an os-prober liegt, der dann (wegen nicht korrekt erkanntem Win10) das vorherige als "fallback" hernimmt, passt mein Bug ja dazu.
[13:45] <jokrebel> OH! es hat sich verändert! Es steht da jetzt nicht mehr Windows 7 - dafür aber zwei mal Windows Recovery Environment (loader) auf /dev/sda1 (und selbes mit sda3) --- das mit sda1 ist dann das Windows 10 ;-) ... Da war ja der Eintrag Windows 7 (welcher dann ins Windows 10 führte) noch besser :-/
[14:46] <cj1> hey
[14:46] <cj1> bye
[15:03] <Anf> Guten Tag, hab mal eine kleine frage. Ich hab gerade versucht, den Scann Treiber für mein Canon MP560 zu installieren, leider erscheint da immer ein unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten Problem. Und ich komm nicht weiter.
[15:03] <Anf> Ich verstehe nicht, was er damit meint, mit diesem unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten?
[15:04] <dadrc> Anf: der scannertreiber braucht weitere pakete und dein paketsystem weiß nicht, wo es die hernehmen soll
[15:04] <k1l> das er pakete in bestimmten versionen braucht und die nicht in der version oder eben gar nicht finden kann.
[15:04] <dadrc> wie genau versuchst du das denn zu installieren?
[15:06] <Anf> Ich hab den Treiber von Canon's Hompage geladen, und hab es mit /.install.sh laut Anleitung versucht zu installieren
[15:07] <Anf> Wen ich aber die fehlenden Packete nachinstallieren möchte, kommt das selbe Problem raus, muss ich vielleicht weitere Quellen eingeben, damit die Packete da geladen werden können?
[15:09] <Anf> Fehler: scangearmp-common hängt ab von libgimp2.0 (>= 2.2.0+rel)
[15:09] <dadrc> was für ein ubuntu hast du denn?
[15:10] <Anf> 14.04.3 LTS
[15:10] <dadrc> und wenn du jetzt versuchst, libgimp2.0 zu installieren?
[15:10] <dadrc> das paket gibt es nämlich
[15:11] <Anf> ok, da kommt auch ein fehler, moment
[15:12] <Anf> scangearmp-common:i386 : Hängt ab von: libgimp2.0:i386 (>= 2.2.0+rel) soll aber nicht installiert werden
[15:12] <dadrc> mit welchem befehl hast du das gerade versucht?
[15:13] <Anf> Bei beiden Packete der ansich gleiche Fehler, ich verstehe nicht, was er möchte?
[15:13] <Anf> sudo apt-get install libgimp2.0
[15:14] <dadrc> Dann haben die komischen Pakete von Canon da irgendwas zerfummelt. Deinstallier den ganzen Kram mal sauber und probier dann, libgimp2.0 vorher zu installieren
[15:15] <Anf> kleine frage nebenbei, wen ich den Treiber von der Hompage lade, und Ihn mit ./install.sh installiere, muss der Treiber nicht alle nötigen Packete eigendlich mit sich haben??
[15:16] <dadrc> Das musst du tatsächlich Canon fragen, was in deren Paket sein soll
[15:16] <Anf> ok, aber wie deinstalliere ich sauber alle Packete, die ich über Terminal installiert habe, ich hab die ja nicht mehr alle im Kopf?
[15:17] <dadrc> In /var/log/apt/ gibt es die history.log, da steht das alles drin
[15:17] <Anf> Super, und dan einfach mit sudo apt-get purge oder autoremover entfernen?
[15:18] <dadrc> joa
[15:19] <Anf> Super, vielen Dank. Werde ich versuchen, und melde mich
[15:26] <Anf> Ich hab gerade versucht alle Canon Packete im Terminal zu entfernen mit autoremove, ich bekomme aber den selben Fehler, das irgendwas von einander Abhängt, das ist doch eigendlich nicht möglich, was soll das. Was hat da Canon für ein Treiber geschrieben, der sich nicht normal installieren lässt, und dan sich noch nicht mal entfernen lässt?
[15:32] <dadrc> Im Notfall mit dpkg direkt deinstallieren
[15:32] <dadrc> dpkg kannst du sagen, dass es Abhängigkeiten ignorieren soll
[15:32] <Anf> wie geht den das?
[15:34] <Anf> Ich würde es vielleicht mit Synaptic versuchen, die einzelnen Packete zu entfernen, hab es aber noch nicht versucht, aber mit dpkg weiß ich nicht, wie es geht
[15:34] <dadrc> -r
[15:34] <dadrc> ansonsten, `man dpkg` :)
[15:37] <Anf> Ich hab bei dpkg --help , --ignore-depends=<Paket>,... Abhängigkeiten ignorieren, die <Paket> betreffen. Gefunden
[15:38] <Anf> Mit -r stand da nichts
[15:38] <dadrc> Einfach mit dpkg -r <paket> deinstallieren, das sollte eigentlich ausreichen
[15:39] <Anf> achso, ich dachte sudo apt-get -r .... oder so
[15:39] <Anf> Alles klar
[15:47] <Anf> Ich hab mit dpkg alle Packete con Canon entfernen können, die ich installiert habe. Danch hab ich versucht libgimp2.0 erst vor dem Treiber zu installieren, das Packet ist aber schon auf dem Neuesten Stand installiert. Also hab ich wieder versucht den Treiber zu installieren, bekahm aber wieder den Fehler "dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von scangearmp-common: scangearmp-common hängt ab von libgimp2.0 (>= 2.2.0
[15:47] <Anf> *von Canon
[15:48] <Anf> Kann es sein, das Canon einen Bug im Treiber hat?
[15:49] <dadrc> dann entfern mal dieses scangearmp-common
[15:50] <passt_> ich habe beim erstellen eines openvpn client zertifikats vergessen ein Passwort anzugeben. deshalb möchte ich dieses zertifikat löschen und nicht nur revoken. Ist das überhaput möglich?
[15:56] <Anf> Jetzt hab ich scangearmp-common entfernt, und versucht den Canon Treiber zu installieren, jetzt schreibt er mir, das 6 Packete nicht installiert sind, die Packete sind aufgelisten, soll ich Sie manuell installieren?
[16:03] <Anf> Liegt es vielleicht daran, das Canon keinen 64bit Treiber hatte, und ich jetzt versuche den 32bit Treiber von Canon auf meinem 64bit System zu installieren, und deswegen findet er dan auch die passenden Packete nicht, kann es daran liegen?
[16:03] <frostschutz> Anf, machst das alles von hand oder mit dem canon ppa?
[16:04] <Anf> Wie geht den das jetzt?
[16:07] <Anf> Im Ubuntu Wiki steht https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Canon/Drucker , das es ein Problem mit der weiterentwicklung bei manchen Packete gibt, weil diese Packet nur für 32bit erfügbar sind
[16:07] <Anf> Heißt das, das es keinen Treiber für das 64bit Linux System gibt?
[16:10] <frostschutz> es heißt daß du 32bit libraries brauchst
[16:11] <TeXnicer> Anf: ich habe vor ein paar Tagen erst einen MP5150 installiert, das ging beides sehr einfach
[16:11] <frostschutz> meine eltern haben so eine canon büchse, da hat es aber gereicht übers PPA die Pakete zu installieren
[16:11] <TeXnicer> also ... Drucker über das Hinzufügen-Menü Treiberauswahl... ging nativ
[16:12] <TeXnicer> ScanGear habe ich mir von Canon runtergeladen und lief auch gut
[16:12] <frostschutz> ich selbst mach das ganz anders, da ich den drucker fast nie brauche, und aus anderen gründen sowieso eine windows vm da ist, reiche ich den usb drucker einfach an die vm durch *hust* :)
[16:13] <Anf> Klar, das ist am einfachsten. Ich hab nur das Problem, das ich überhaupt von Windows weg möchte, ich hab jetzt nur noch alle beiden Rechner auf Ubuntu, und möchte überhaupt kein Windows mehr nutzen, wen umsteigen auf Linux, dan schon komplett umsteigen :)
[16:17] <Anf> Ich hab ja ScanGear auch von der Canon Hompage geladen, aber die installation klappt ja nicht, hab es mit ./install.sh gemacht. Aber ich hab da Fehler mit der Abhängigkeit. Muss ich vielleicht einfach manche Packete vor der Treiber installation installieren?
[16:22] <TeXnicer> Anf: wie lang ist denn die liste? Paste das mal (topic des kanals beachten!)
[16:22] <TeXnicer> Paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:23] <Anf> welche liste?
[16:29] <Relaxo> Nabend zusammen! Ist es möglich die Soundausgabe von Ubuntu per wlan an ein anderes gerät umzuleiten? Sollte doch über Avahi gehen oder nicht?
[16:29] <Anf> Soll ich die installation von dem Canon Treiber mit Paste.Ubuntu pasten?
[16:30] <leszek> Relaxo: das geht mittels pulseaudio. Hab das hier vor ein paar Tagen auch gesucht: https://wiki.archlinux.de/title/Pulseaudio#PulseAudio_.C3.BCbers_Netzwerk
[16:30] <frostschutz> Anf, das ist ungefähr die methode die ich bislang genutzt hab https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/probleme-bei-der-installation-von-canon-drucke/#post-6678392 - wenn das nicht mehr so geht wäre schade
[16:30] <frostschutz> Anf, ansonsten paste mal deine befehle und die ausgaben, vielleicht weiß dann jemand was dazu
[16:31] <Relaxo> leszek: werd mir das mal anschauen, besten dank!
[16:32] <Anf> Die methode klappt nicht, hab die als erstes schon getestet, ich paste gleich mal die Befehle
[16:35] <Anf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13125688/
[16:37] <frostschutz> das :i386 heißt letztlich 32bit version, du musst die 32bit Versionen dieser Pakete irgendwie installieren
[16:37] <frostschutz> ob das dann so klappen kann weiß ich ansonsten auch nicht
[16:41] <frostschutz> Anf, hier scheints 64bit pakete zu geben? keine ahnung ob die tun würden https://launchpad.net/~mo42/+archive/ubuntu/private
[16:42] <TeXnicer> Anf: hast du gimp installiert?
[16:42] <Anf> Wen ich die 32bit Version dieser Packete installiere, bekomme ich ebenfalls einen Abhändigkeits Fehler
[16:42] <Anf> gimp hab ich nicht
[16:45] <TeXnicer> Anf: Druckt der Drucker schon?
[16:46] <Anf> noch nicht, weil ich es nicht eingestellt habe, aber Drucken tut er, wen man Ihn einstellt. Also Ubuntu findet Ihn
[16:46] <TeXnicer> Also, das machen wir zuerst...
[16:47] <TeXnicer> Richte mal den Drucker ein und gucke, ob der in der Liste steht. Wenn Du unsicher bist oder Fragen hast, frage bevor Du etwas klickst.
[16:48] <TeXnicer> Sag bescheid, wenn er eine Testseite gedruckt hast.
[16:49] <Anf> Hab den Drucker in die Liste hinzugefügt, müsste jetzt Drucken können, aber das hat er auch bei meinem alten Ubuntu system gemacht. Aber wie finde ich jetzt den Scann Treiber
[16:49] <TeXnicer> Komm, eine Testseite...
[16:49] <Anf> Ja
[16:50] <TeXnicer> Ich versuche gerade nachzuvollziehen wie ich das damals gemacht habe
[16:50] <Anf> Aber der Scanner funktioniert nicht
[16:51] <Anf> Bin mal kurz weg zum Essen, Sorry
[16:53] <jokrebel> Scannen hat ja auch nichts mit dem Druckertreiber zu tun soweit ich weiß.
[16:55] <jokrebel> Anf: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Canon/Scanner kennst Du bereits?
[17:14] <smeexs> anf .. ganz am anfang , hast du da den scanner treiber selbst runter geladen ?
[17:19] <Anf> Ja, ich hab versucht, den Treiber von Canon's Hompage zu installieren
[17:20] <TeXnicer> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Canon/Drucker << VORBEREITUNG der Installation 14.04
[17:20] <Anf> Aber die installation klappt nicht, da Canon den Treiber für Linux nur in der 32bit Version hat, und keinen Treiber für 64bit System hat, deswegen hat die installation bei mir nicht geklappt
[17:20] <smeexs> ach is das teil schon älter ?
[17:20] <TeXnicer> 64 kann 32 nicht umgekehrt
[17:20] <smeexs> ich hab letzte woche einen pixman (fax,drucker,treiber) "installiert"
[17:21] <TeXnicer> pixma?
[17:21] <smeexs> drucker angehängt , aktualisierung durchgeführt , und das ding hast sich selbst installiert mit dem original treiber von canon
[17:21] <TeXnicer> Anf: Auf der Seite steht etwas von vorbereitenden Paketen
[17:22] <smeexs> ja , nur vertippt
[17:22] <Anf> Ich hab den MP560
[17:23] <Anf> Ich verstehe jetzt gar nichts mehr. Dern normalen Treiber brauch ich nicht, da der Drucker bei mir finktioniert seit dem ich Ihn angeschlossen habe, hat Ubuntu sich den Treiber selber gefunden, aber leider nur den Treiber zum Drucker,
[17:24] <TeXnicer> Anf: link oben, lesen, pakete installieren, dann scangear nochmal installieren
[17:25] <Anf> Aber wie soll ich Scangear den installieren, wen Scangear nur für die 32bit Version verfügbar ist?
[17:26] <jokrebel> Anf: Hast Du es denn mit sane versucht (und dieses auch installiert!)?
[17:27] <jokrebel> und auch meinen Link gesehn den ich um 17:55 postete?
[17:27] <Anf> Nein, ich hab darüber gelesen, aber bin dazu noch nicht gekommen, wollte erstmal versuchen, den originalen Canon Scann treiber zu installieren
[17:27] <TeXnicer> Anf: Gut.. dann mache das erst und sage dann bescheid, wenn wir Dir den Artikel vorlesen dürfen ;)
[17:28] <smeexs> kannst sein dass der eh schon funktioniert , schon nach der automatischen treiber installation , du brauchst nur SANE um den scanner anzusprechen
[17:28] <smeexs> jok war schneller
[17:28] <Anf> versuch es gerade mit Sane
[17:30] <TeXnicer> Anf: http://www.canon.de/support/consumer_products/products/fax__multifunctionals/inkjet/pixma_mp_series/pixma_mp560.aspx?type=drivers&language=&os=WINDOWS%207%20%2864-bit%29
[17:30] <TeXnicer> nänänä das ist ein Windows-Treiber ... DANN WÄHLE LINUX 64BIT im Dropdownmenü :)
[17:30] <smeexs> ich bin zwar erst selbst 2 jahre bei ubuntu aber irgend welche treiber selbst installieren hat bei mir so gut wie nie zum erfolg geführt , das meiste geht einfacher als man glaubt bzw automatisch (ggf nach einer aktualisierung)
[17:30] <jokrebel> Anf: Das ist kein Windows. Etwas "runterladen" ist unter Linux meist der schlechteste Weg. Unter Ubuntu ist das ubuntuusers-Wiki meist die beste Wahl. Nun ist aber schon ne gute Stunde rum und jetzt hab _ich_ gleich keine Zeit mehr. :-/
[17:31] <jokrebel> smeexs: ++
[17:33] <jokrebel> und das mit dem Hinweis aufs Wiki an einen User Namens Anf kommt mir wie ein deja vu vor.
[17:33] <Anf> Ich krieg es ja auch über ubuntu Wiki nicht hin, weil es diesen Treiber nicht als 64bit gibt. Dan kann es ja nur mit Sane funktionieren, oder soll ich den 32bit Treiber auf 64bit mal eben so neu Programmieren? Ich verstehe den Sinn nicht? Wie soll ich einfach weiter vorgehen?
[17:33] <TeXnicer> Anf: 32 installieren.
[17:34] <TeXnicer> wäre ein versuch wert
[17:34] <TeXnicer> Sane oder close source?
[17:34] <Anf> geht ja nicht, weil ich dan Abhängigkeits Fehler bekomme
[17:35] <smeexs> hast du sane jetzt schon mal gestartet?
[17:35] <TeXnicer> Anf: auf der Seite die hier mehrfach stand, steht für 14.04: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6 libc6 libgcc1 libatk1.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 libusb-0.1-4 zlib1g
[17:35] <Anf> nein, ich finde gerade die Seite nicht im Ubuntu Wiki
[17:35] <TeXnicer> Anf: Hast Du die installiert?
[17:36] <Anf> JA
[17:36] <TeXnicer> aha...
[17:36] <TeXnicer> gut dann ./install und gucken was er meckert oder ist das das alte paste?
[17:36] <Anf> und dan hab ich den 32bit Treiber von Canon installiert, und die Fehler hab ich schon mal Oben im Paste.Ubuntu gepastet
[17:36] <TeXnicer> jokrebel: smeexs was haltet Ihr von sudo add-apt-repository ppa:inameiname/stable von http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/12/canon-driver-scangear-mp-ubuntu-14-04/
[17:37] <smeexs> ich würd als erstes mal sahne installieren und starten und schaub ob der scanner nicht eh schon funktioniert
[17:37] <jokrebel> genau - mit script installieren an der Paketverwaltung vorbei. Dann bekommt man es wenigsten ggf. nicht mehr sauber runter... :-/
[17:37] <jokrebel> TeXnicer: Schon mal was von checkinstall gehört (wenigstens)?
[17:38] <jokrebel> Aber ich muss nun los. Viel Glück noch...
[17:38] <Anf> Danke
[17:38] <TeXnicer> jokrebel: meine Drucker und Scanner laufen unter 14.04.3, 15.04, WIN7
[17:38] <TeXnicer> jokrebel: ich gucks mir mal an
[17:39] <Anf> Wo finde ich die Ubuntu Wiki Seite über Sane, da war ich vor 30min drauf, jetzt finde ich Sie nicht mehr
[17:39] <smeexs> ich muss leider auch weg einkaufen , bin so um 8 wieder da
[17:40] <smeexs> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Scanner
[17:40] <jokrebel> TeXnicer: Schön für Dich. Aber ich würde immer erst alle Ubuntu-Wege (genau!) probieren bevor ich irgendwas per ./install in mein System prügle.
[17:40] <jokrebel> Anf: Immer noch https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Canon/Scanner
[17:41] <smeexs> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SANE
[17:41] <Anf> Ja, da steht aber nicht, wie ich Sane installiere, oder einfach über Software Center?
[17:41] <smeexs> so muss leider sonst sperren die zu
[17:44] <TeXnicer> ja, das sollte (siehe andere Kommentare) immer der erste weg sein...
[17:44] <Anf> Sane funktioniert, aber nur wen ich den Scann start bei Sane starte, wen ich auf dem Drucker auf Scann Start gehe, passiert nichts
[17:44] <jokrebel> Anf: *seufz* https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Canon/Scanner da gibt es auch funktionierende weiterführende Links. Lesen - nicht überfliegen. Danke
[17:44] <TeXnicer> Anf: Dann suchst du bei scann buttons
[17:45] <jokrebel> Und viel Erfolg noch ich muss jetzt auch wirklich...
[17:45] <TeXnicer> oder findest dich damit ab, dass du den Knopf am Computer drückst..
[17:45] <TeXnicer> Einkaufen gute Idee..
[17:45] <TeXnicer> Anf: In dem Wiki steht MEHR als ICH jemals helfen kann allein auf den paar Seiten (Canon Scanner+Referenz) ... Du möchtest 3 Probleme auf einmal lösen.
[17:46] <TeXnicer> Also. STOPP
[17:46] <TeXnicer> 1.) Klare Zieldefinition
[17:46] <TeXnicer> Ich möchte, dass mein Multifunktionsgerät Canon MP560 druckt und scant - unter Linux 14.04.3
[17:46] <jokrebel> na also wenn das scannen geht, nur der Knofpdruck dafür nicht am Drucker gemacht werden kann *doppelseufz* Ist das wirklich soooo wichtig?
[17:47] <jokrebel> und tschüss
[17:47] <stevieh> die knöpfe an den dingern gehen nie
[17:47] <TeXnicer> tschüß
[17:47] <Anf> Alles klar. Vielen Dank
[17:48] <TeXnicer> Anf: Wie nutzt du die Scans? Mit welchem Programm wirst Du die Scans nutzen?
[17:50] <TeXnicer> Anf: wenn ich Dir jedes Feedback aus der Nase ziehen muss, dann lasse ich dich in ruhe
[17:52] <TeXnicer> War ich zu harsch? War ich zu direkt?
[17:59] <k1l> ich glaube daran hats nicht gelegen :)
[18:08] <TeXnicer> k1l: danke, tut gut.
[18:08] <TeXnicer> Ich gehe auch mal einkaufen
[18:20] <frostschutz> das canonzeug kann schon extrem frustrierend sein :)
[18:27] <yoshimo> ich habe zum Auslesen der Daten meine zweite Festplatte gegen eine andere getauscht
[18:27] <yoshimo> nun sagt das System beim Booten der Name der neuen und das Modell hätten sich nicht geändert
[18:28] <yoshimo> WD steht da, es ist aber eigentlich eine Seagate
[18:28] <frostschutz> wo steht das?
[18:28] <yoshimo> Startmeldungen des Systems wo alle erkannten Dinge drin stehen und im BIOS
[18:28] <frostschutz> und was steht bei smartctl -a /dev/platte bzw. hdparm -i /dev/platte?
[18:29] <yoshimo> DMESG sagt https://pastee.org/r73n9
[18:30] <frostschutz> sieht ziemlich kaputt aus
[18:30] <yoshimo> die ging vor 3h im andern PC wunderbar
[18:31] <yoshimo> smartctl findet nix: cannot be read
[18:31] <frostschutz> anderes kabel, anderer sata-port, anderer pc, ...
[18:32] <yoshimo> hdparm https://pastee.org/h7y6r
[18:36] <yoshimo> und der VOllständigkeit halber https://pastee.org/5bqmq
[18:36] <frostschutz> ist aber keine 4GB Platte ja?
[18:37] <yoshimo> ne 500GB laut Label
[18:37] <yoshimo> Seagate Barracuda
[18:41] <frostschutz> probiers im andern pc ob sie da noch geht
[18:42] <frostschutz> ansonsten sieht das nach kaputter platine oder firmwarefehler aus
[18:42] <frostschutz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqC4VNHkjvc
[18:44] <yoshimo> mhmm, das muss warten, ich hab nur den einen ;)
[18:44] <yoshimo> bbl
[19:19] <Anf> Hab es mit ScanGear hinbekommen, konnte die 32bit Version doch installieren, über Synaptic und über eine andere Quelle, der Treiber für den Scannen läuft jetzt 1A
[19:20] <Anf> Ich wollte aber eben, mein Drücker über das netz einrichten, und brauch das Workgroup Passwort, wo kann ich das Workgroup Passwort finden?
[19:27] <k1l> an dem windows rechner, an dem du die workgroup eingerichtet hast?
[19:30] <nagetier> http://windows.microsoft.com/de-de/windows7/where-can-i-find-my-homegroup-password
[19:30] <nagetier> hier werden fragen gestellt..
[19:31] <nagetier> es ist auch noch weg *spät feststell*
[19:33] <k1l> ist eh nen spezi, der gute
[19:46] <blubb321> Hallo, ich benutze Ubuntu 14.4.3 Seit dem letzten Update startet der Rechner nicht mehr. Das wäre die Kernel Version 3.13.0-61-generic. Wenn ich mit der nächst kleineren Version starte 3.13.0-44-generic, bootet der Rechner ohne Probleme. Wie kann ich das beheben?
[19:48] <k1l> sichergehen, dass linux-generic installiert ist. also dass zieht nämlich auch die passenden header files, die werden gebraucht für die ganzen module
[19:53] <blubb321> k1l, nach was muss ich da gucken? sind das die files im /boot? also zu der version gibt es eine abi, config, initrd.img, system.map und vmlinuz Datei
[19:53] <k1l> ist das paket installiert?
[19:54] <blubb321> nach welchem Paketnamen muss ich da gucken?
[19:55] <k1l> sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[19:56] <Anf> Ich hab eben mein Drucker an die Fritz.box angeschlossen, und in Ubuntu so eingerichtet, das ich Drucken kann. Jetzt hab ich aber das Problem, das Simple Scan den Scanner nicht finden kann, woran liegt das, muss ich Simple Scan nochmal Neu installieren?
[19:57] <smeexs> re
[19:57] <Anf> ??
[20:01] <smeexs> falls die ?? auf mich bezogen waren , re bedeutet nur return , sprich dass ich wieder am pc bin
[20:03] <nagetier> ich denke Anf ist einfach nur ungeduldig
[20:05] <Anf> Vielleicht, ich bin nur sehr lange dabei, das Ding zum laufen zu bekommen. Und verstehe nicht, wieso Simple Scann nur dan funktioniert, wen der Drucker über USB am Rechner hängt, und wen ich den Drucker über USB an die Fritz.Box hänge und in Ubuntu auch richtig einrichte, so das der Drucker druckt, bloß Simple Scann läuft dan nicht.
[20:06] <smeexs> anf http://bit.ly/1MgzCYi
[20:22] <smeexs> anf haste gefunden ? https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SANE-Scanserver_im_Netzwerk
[20:23] <smeexs> nur so nebenbei , normal macht man sich schlau auf ubuntuusers bzw googelt und wenns dann ein problem gibt oder man was nicht versteht fragt man im support chat
[20:23] <smeexs> nicht bös gemeint , weiß ja dass du neu bist
[20:24] <Anf> Ich hab das nur mit dem Projekt Freetz gefunden, wo man eine erweiterung auf die Fritz.Box laden muss, aber der Link von Ihnen ist natürlich besser, da muss man glaub ich keine erweiterung auf die fritz.box laden
[20:24] <frostschutz> Anf, wie läuft das denn auf der fritzbox technisch? der usb fernanschluss geht ja unter linux glaub ich gar nicht.
[20:25] <Anf> Also Drucken kann ich, der Drücker ist an der Fritz.Box und Ubuntu hat Ihn gefunden, aber nur der Druck funktioniert bis jetzt
[20:26] <frostschutz> Anf, drucken ist leider was anderes als scannen ;)
[20:27] <frostschutz> die fritzbox wird einen print- aber keinen scan-server haben
[20:28] <smeexs> im netz is man per du ^^
[20:28] <frostschutz> und mit canon scanner funktioniert das dann immer noch nicht, da muss der scanner entweder offiziell von sane unterstützt sein oder du musst die canon treiber auf der fb zum laufen bekommen, was architekturtechnisch gar nicht möglich ist (x86 vs arm oder was immer das in der fb ist)
[20:28] <Anf> Klar, das heißt, wen der Drucker an der Fritz.Box hängt, kann nur Gedruckt werden von meheren Rechner die im Netzt sind, aber Scannen wird nicht gehen?
[20:29] <frostschutz> am ehesten indem du der fritzbox irgendwie das standard linux usbip beibringst aber selbst dann kannst immer noch nur von (einem) linuxrechner aus scannen/drucken
[20:29] <frostschutz> hat der drucker vielleicht eine netzwerkschnittstelle?
[20:29] <Anf> Und was ist damit ?? : http://zefanjas.de/2010/11/24/scanner-an-der-fritzbox-im-netzwerk-nutzen/
[20:30] <Anf> Ne, nur USB und Wlan
[20:30] <frostschutz> wlan ist doch gut
[20:31] <frostschutz> Anf, da wird sane auf der fb installiert, für scanner die ohne spezielle treiber mit sane laufen
[20:31] <Anf> Ich hab versucht den Drucker über Wlan mit der Fritz.Box zu verbinden, was auch funktionierte, aber Ubuntu konnte dan den Drucker garnicht finden, als ich den Drucker an die Box hing, fand Ubuntu den Drucker
[20:33] <smeexs> da ich zuahsue nur einen hauptrechner habe , hab ich das nie gebraucht , die anleitung von dem link scheint mir nicht sehr ausgereift ist auch schon 5 jahre alt
[20:34] <Anf> Ich verstehe jetzt wieder mal nichts, bin voll durch einander, wie soll ich jetzt am besten vorgehen? Ich hab ein Notebook der über Wlan mit der Fritz.Box verbunden ist, und ein Rechner der Über Lan mit der Fritz.Box verbunden ist, kann ich es jetzt so einrichten, das ich von beiden Rechnern Drucken und Scannen kann?
[20:34] <smeexs> ein freund von mir der ein kleines büro mit 5 arbeitsplätzen hat (alle linux) hat das einfach mit einem raspberry gemacht , als druck/scann server
[20:35] <frostschutz> Anf, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Canon/Scanner#Scannen-ueber-Netzwerk
[20:35] <frostschutz> ich denke mal da hast du chancen, bei usb ist tote hose
[20:35] <frostschutz> und wenn das scannen so klappt müsste man das drucken auch hinbekommen
[20:37] <smeexs> wenn deiner netzwerkfähig ist is das sicher die bessere lösung als über die fritzbox
[20:37] <Anf> Ich kappiere das nicht, wo schließ ich den Drucker jetzt an, und wie und was muss ich konfigirieren
[20:38] <Anf> Ja klar, aber der Drucker kann sich nur mit Wlan mit einer Fritz.Box verbinden, da ist dan doch egal ob über Wlan oder ob über USB
[20:38] <frostschutz> wlan, drucker ip herausfinden/setzen und dann scannen-ueber-netzwerk probieren
[20:38] <Anf> alles klar, Danke. Ich bin voll verwirrt jetzt.
[20:39] <frostschutz> okay
[20:39] <smeexs> welchen drucker hast du nochmal
[20:40] <Anf> Canon Mp560
[20:41] <Anf> Aber wen ich den Drucker über Wlan verbinde, wie druckt und Scannt dan der PC, wen er kein Wlan hat, oder läuft alles doch über die fritz.Box aber halt mit Wlan und nicht über USB, oder wie soll ich es verstehen?
[20:41] <frostschutz> geht über die fritzbox
[20:41] <frostschutz> die fritzbox verbindet lan und wlan in ein netzwerk
[20:41] <frostschutz> es sei denn du stellst das wlan auf gastmodus oder so
[20:42] <Anf> Klar, ok. Ich hab es vor 30min auch so probiert, aber so funktionierte nicht mal der Druck, also mit Drucker über Wlan an die Fritz.Box und PC über Lan an die Box
[20:42] <frostschutz> probiers erstmal mit dem scannen, wenn das tut über wlan, dann kriegt man auch das drucken hin
[20:43] <Anf> ok, also so wie auf Ubuntu Wiki mit dem Scanner beschrieben, so versuche ich das jetzt
[20:43] <frostschutz> oder falls das ding usb und wlan gleichzeitig kann (?) könntest du es zum drucken an usb lassen und trotzdem über wlan scannen, ist halt ein bisschen von hinten durch die brust ins auge dann
[20:44] <frostschutz> und das scangearmp kannst dann wieder runterschmeissen wenn es dann mit normalen sane funkt
[20:45] <Anf> Hab ich schon :)
[20:48] * smeexs geht zocken
[20:52] <Anf> So, hab jetzt den Drucker über Wlan an die Fritz.Box verbunden, und hab die feste IP von dem Drucker in der /sane.d/pixma.conf eingetragen
[20:57] <Anf> Drucker ist über Wlan mit der Fritz.Box verbunden, und der Scanner läuft. Aber wie grieg ich jetzt den Drucker genau so hin?
[20:58] <Anf> Wen ich auf die Systemsteuerung/Drucker gehe, wird der Drucker dort als Netzwerdrucker auch gefunden und installiert, aber das Drucker funktioniert nicht
[21:02] <frostschutz> Anf, ist cnijfilter installiert?
[21:04] <Anf> Ja ist installiert
[21:04] <frostschutz> und der drucker ist dann cnijnet://ip-dings?
[21:06] <Anf> weiß ich nicht, wo kann ich den das nachgucken?
[21:07] <frostschutz> weiß ich nicht
[21:07] <Anf> Wie gesagt, die Systemsteuerung/Drucker findet den Drucker, und wen ich Ihn einfüge, wird er mit einem Grünen Hacken mackiert, aber läuft nicht
[21:07] <frostschutz> und da werden keine einstellungen angezeigt da?
[21:07] <frostschutz> wo sowas steht was das eigentlich ist?
[21:09] <Anf> doch, aber jetzt findet auch Systemsteuerung/ Drucker den Drucker nicht
[21:10] <Anf> Jetzt hab ich Ihn über die IP gefunden und hinzugefügt
[21:11] <Anf> Aber Drucken will er einfach nicht
[21:19] <Anf> Also über USB hat der Drucker ja gedruckt, dan muss es ja jetzt auch über das Netzwerk gehen
[21:21] <jokrebel> Anf: Hast Du denn (außer den Anbindungseinstellungen) alles gleich? Treiber? Version?
[21:22] <Anf> Ja, die Treiber ladet er ja selber herunter, wen ich den Hersteller und das Modell auswähle
[21:23] <nagetier> Anf, Firewall im Router/Ubuntu ist ok?
[21:24] <Anf> Weiß ich nicht, mit so was hab ich noch nicht zu tun gehabt
[21:25] <Anf> Aber das Scannen im Netzwerk geht ja, dan müsste ja alles mit der Firewall stimmen
[21:26] <jokrebel> Hast Du das denn händisch gemacht? Oder hast Du "Drucker - Hinzufügen - Netzwerkdrucker (da sollte er wenn er an und online ist eigentlich schon stehn) - wenn nicht - Netzwerkdrucker finden - IP eingeben - suchen - ...
[21:26] <Anf> Office zeigt mir an, das der Drucker im Leerlauf ist, aber er muss ja auf Bereit stehen
[21:27] <Anf> Ich hab es mit beiden probiert
[21:27] <jokrebel> Also "Leerlauf" würd ich jetzt nicht zwingend mit "_nicht_ Bereit" übersetzen o.O
[21:28] <jokrebel> hast Du denn ein Testseite geschickt?
[21:28] <Anf> Ja, aber er Druckt Sie nicht
[21:29] <Anf> Wen die Systemsteuerung den Drucker selber findet, bekommt der drucker einen komischen Namen, wen ich Ihn über die IP hinzufüge, steht da die IP. Aber beides funktioniert nicht
[21:30] <jokrebel> und mein Frage davor? Anf
[21:30] <jokrebel> Welche Systemsteuerung? Du redest jetzt aber nicht zufällig von Windows?
[21:31] <Anf> Nein, welche Frage meinst du?
[21:31] <jokrebel> Hast Du das denn händisch gemacht? Oder hast Du "Drucker - Hinzufügen - Netzwerkdrucker (da sollte er wenn er an und online ist eigentlich schon stehn) - wenn nicht - Netzwerkdrucker finden - IP eingeben - suchen - ...
[21:34] <Anf> Ich hab es mit beiden probiert, aber jetzt findet er den Drucker nicht mehr alleine, ich muss den Drucker jetzt mit der IP oder mit den Namen manuell hinzufügen, also automatisch erscheint der Drucker nicht mehr.
[21:35] <jokrebel> Dann würd ich mal alle Komponenten neu starten (PCs Router Switches Drucker) und definiert in der richtigen Reihenfolge wieder hochfahren.
[21:36] <Anf> ok, alles klar.
[21:42] <Anf_> Neustart hat leider nichts gebracht
[21:43] <Anf_> Wen ich aber auf die Druckerwarteschlage gehe, kann ich sehen, wie alle Druckseiten angehalten werden, wen ich die dan nochmal starte, wenden Sie in 2 sekunden wieder angehalten und es passiert nichts
[21:44] <jokrebel> Du hast wirklich alles neu gestartet? Und in welcher Reihenfolge (mit abwarten dazwischen!) Kann mir fast nicht vorstellen, dass das so schnell gehen kann.
[21:46] <jokrebel> lösch die Aufträge - lösch die Drucker - und richte nach einem definierten Neustart aller am Netzwerk beteiligten Geräte den Netzwerkdrucker nochmal neu ein.
[21:46] <frostschutz> Anf_, benutzt der drucker cnijnet oder nicht?
[21:47] <Anf_> wo kann ich das nachschauen?
[21:50] <Anf_> Hab den Drucken an die Fritz.Box über USB angeschlossen, Ubuntu hat den Drucker erkannt, und die TestSeite wurde gedruckt :)
[21:50] <Anf_> Aber wieso geht das nicht wie das Scannen wo Drucker mit der Fritz.Box über Wlan verbunden sind?
[21:53] <jokrebel> hängt er denn immer noch _auch_ per USB an der FritzBox?
[21:55] <Anf_> Nein, wo ich das Drucken über Netzwerk mit Wlan versucht habe, hing er nicht an der fritz.Box
[21:57] <Anf_> Aber wen der Drucker NUR über Wlan mit der Fritz.Box verbunden ist findet ja Ubuntu den Drucker und hat den Drucker auch mit einem Grünen Hacken makiert, aber Drucken tut er einfach nicht, wieso? Das ist komisch
[21:58] <Anf_> Vielleicht kann man nicht Scannen und Drucken beides über Wlan laufen lassen, was eigendlich blödsinn ist, einfach nur komisch
[22:00] <jokrebel> falscher Drucker ausgewählt? oder Treiber? Unterpunkt. Da gibt es zig Möglichkeiten. Hast Du es denn wie schon zwie mal beschrieben noch mal von vorne versucht - Für mich liest sich das (vor allem auch wegen der zeitlich sehr kurzen Abstände in denen Du hier schreibst) nach wildem schnellen "Herumprobieren" statt nach strukturiertem nüchternem Vorgehen. Sorry.
[22:03] <Anf_> Ich hab den gleichen Treiber und alles andere gleich genommen, was ich davor auch genommen habe.
[22:04] <Anf_> So viell kann man da ja nicht falsch machen, der Drucker wird angezeigt oder man fügt Ihr zu über die IP, und wählt den Hersteller und das Modell aus, und dan macht man den Testdruck
[22:10] <jokrebel> na dann ...
[22:13] <Anf_> Ich würde es aber schon gerne über Wlan auch das Drucken hinbekommen, dan kann ich endlich den Drucken auch wo anders hinstellen, aber es klappt ja einfach nicht. Und man kann ja auch keine Packete Neuinstallieren, oder so, weil das ja alles über Ubuntu läuft.
[22:13] <frostschutz> Anf_, screenshot von den druckereinstellungen?
[22:18] <Anf_> wieso den Screenshot, man kann da doch nur den Drucken auswählen dan den Hersteller und den Treiber wählen
[22:20] <jokrebel> also ich könnte bei meinen Netzwerkdruckern immer wesentlich mehr (falsch) eingestellt haben, als Du das darstellst. Aber mag sein, dass es bei Deinem Epson nur _eine_ Moglichkeit gibt und die geht halt nicht...
[22:22] <Anf_> Ich hab einen Canon, und man kann nur eine möglichkeit wählen
[22:23] <Anf_> Man kann den Treiber auch selber installieren, also man kann da die Datei hinzufügen für den Treiber, vielleicht kann man die ja irgendwo runterladen
[22:24] <Anf_> Es muss eine PPD Datei sein
[22:38] <jokrebel> also ich find da im Internet reihenweise Threads die behaupten dass es geht. Die sind sogar alle schon Jahre alt. Wär komischen wenn der "schon nicht -mehr_" unterstützt wäre. Sorry, ich kann mich der Vorstellung nicht entziehen, dass Du einfach was übersiehst. Zeig halt einfach mal die geforderten Scrennshots. Oder versuch es mal direkt über CUPS. Ständig nur zu jammern "aber es geht nicht" bringt
[22:38] <jokrebel> niemanden weiter.
[22:55] <jokrebel> hmm
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[16:00] <stokachu> rick_h__: you mind looking at https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/jujucharms.com/issues/176 and seeing if I've done something incorrectly?
[16:00] <stokachu> im still not seeing my bundle show up
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-tn
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[00:19] <bemawi> __|﹈|o
[19:41] <elacheche> o/
[19:43] <Na3iL> Yo elacheche
[19:46] <elacheche> Hey Na3iL :)
[19:46] <Na3iL> Wassup :) how was the meeting last night?
[19:47] <elacheche> was good :) you can check the logs :)
[19:48] <Na3iL> I already checked it out :)
[19:49] <elacheche> :)
[19:49] <elacheche> Na3iL: we have a meeting tonight
[19:49] <elacheche> in 11 minutes
[19:49] <Na3iL> Where?
[19:50] <elacheche> here
[19:51] <Na3iL> Okay
[19:51] <elacheche> Didn't read the mails?
[19:52] <Na3iL> About administration system?
[19:52] <Na3iL> the workshop one, yeah I read it
[19:54] <elacheche> yep
[19:55] <Na3iL> Cool, I hope that I can figure out how can I come to the workshop
[19:57] <elacheche> What for Na3iL ? Learn or to contribute? :)
[19:58] <Na3iL> To learn as the 1st objective then to contribute :)
[20:00] <elacheche> I see :) Will figure out something Na3iL ;)
[20:00] <elacheche> chargui: o/
[20:01] <chargui> ui anis
[20:01] <chargui> i'm here just a minute till my team be her
[20:01] <Huji> Hello
[20:02] <elacheche> WoooW chargui ! You bring the whole team here :D :D
[20:02] <elacheche> Hey Huji !
[20:02] <Huji> c'est Bilel Mabrouk
[20:02] <chargui> yep the avengers :D
[20:03] <chargui> best i got since the beginning of the club :'D
[20:03] <elacheche> hahah :) OK we wait.. Just we should not have more than 60min, cause I have homeworks to do :D
[20:03] <elacheche> We can have other meetings everynight if we need to :)
[20:04] <chargui> ok just 5 min
[20:04] <elacheche> I'm always here.. Na3iL & chaker too
[20:04] <chargui> @Na3iL yooo broo
[20:05] <Na3iL> 0/ chargui Huji
[20:05] <Na3iL> wassup guys :D
[20:06] <Huji> Hey, Everything's up ! :p
[20:07] <elacheche> So.. Before we start
[20:07] <elacheche> I want to know, why chargui & Huji are here :) What are you looking for from this meeting :)
[20:08] <elacheche> I'm here to just have a chitchat & try to figure out what you really need & want, and think how to make it real & improve it :)
[20:08] <elacheche> What about you?
[20:09] <chargui> ok we want to talk about the sys admin workshop
[20:10] <elacheche> chargui: We are :) But what's your goal for this meeting :) I told you what's mine :)
[20:10] <elacheche> I need to know your goals so I can try to make that real :)
[20:10] <elacheche> Nouhabsn: o.
[20:11] <elacheche> Nouhabsn: o/
[20:11] <chargui> my team @elacheche told you best team ever :'D i lived to see that
[20:11] <Huji> I want to know the job of a sys admin, what he does, what value does he have, the notion still ambiguous to me
[20:11] <chargui> more are coming wait for us
[20:12] <chargui> this is SPARTAAAA !!!!!
[20:12] <elacheche> Huji: That's something that I should talk about during the workshop maybe :)
[20:13] <elacheche> In shot words Huji, a SysAdmin is the person who makes sure that you can connect to Inernet & use online services without issues.. ;)
[20:13] <chargui> ok i have to talk serious now ok anis for me i want to have the abc for a sys admin
[20:14] <chargui> and after i'll improve my self
[20:15] <elacheche> chargui: I was serious all the time :) I was asking those questions for real, I wans't jocking :)
[20:16] <elacheche> chargui: We wait for someone else?
[20:16] <chargui> yes yes i know but me talking about sparta and blablaa just it has been a long time since my last irc meeting and i feel excited a little bit
[20:16] <Nouhabsn> what can we do in a administration system workshop? i don't have any idea :)
[20:17] <elacheche> chargui: I agree that this is SPARTAAAA :) Am so excited too becasue I didn't saw you here for a while :)
[20:17] <chargui> I don't think so it is just me @Huji and @Nouhabsn
[20:17] <elacheche> Hey SahnounM91 :)
[20:17] <elacheche> chargui: We wait for someone else or everyone is here?!
[20:17] <SahnounM91> heloo guys /o :D
[20:18] <Huji> I'm reading a book about Bash Scripting, Found the word sys admin, and that made me curious
[20:18] <chargui> SahnounM91, is here too great let's rock 'n roll
[20:18] <Huji> Hello SahnounM91
[20:18] <chargui> elacheche, no that's it
[20:18] <d4rk-5c0rp> hey there
[20:18] <d4rk-5c0rp> sry for the late
[20:18] <elacheche> Hey d4rk-5c0rp ! WooW You're here for the meeting too! That's awesome :D
[20:19] <chargui> d4rk-5c0rp, hey little elacheche
[20:19] <SahnounM91> d4rk-5c0rp: :D
[20:20] <elacheche> OK.. Let's start the meeting from the scratch.. To TALK you should ask for it by sending the ! letter, to finish a sentence you should send EOF.. Are we ok about that?
[20:20] <chaker> o/
[20:20] <SahnounM91> oukeyy elacheche
[20:20] <Huji> !
[20:20] <Huji> okey
[20:20] <Huji> EOF
[20:21] <elacheche> chaker: I know that you'll not miss this meeting :) Read the rule and let's start :)
[20:21] <chargui> !
[20:21] <chargui> done
[20:21] <chargui> EOF
[20:21] <Nouhabsn> !
[20:21] <Nouhabsn> OK
[20:21] <Nouhabsn> E07
[20:21] <elacheche> So.. Let me start.. I see that Huji chargui Nouhabsn have no idea about the SysAdmin field..
[20:22] <elacheche> Nouhabsn: chargui You ask for permission to tal with ! you talk when I tell you to :) :p
[20:22] <chargui> !
[20:22] <elacheche> Go ahead chargui
[20:23] <chargui> we have the basics to manipulate a GNU/Linux OS
[20:23] <chargui> EOF
[20:25] <elacheche> OK.. My goal here is to know what's your goal from the SysAdmin Workshop, and try to create the perfect technical plan, with the help of chaker Na3iL & others :)
[20:25] <Huji> !
[20:25] <elacheche> So, please everyone go here → http://pad.tn/p/CLLFSM_IT_Workshop and let's try to write a draft based on those lines :)
[20:25] <elacheche> Meanwhile Huji go ahead :)
[20:26] <Huji> you defined SysAdmin: "the person who makes sure that you can connect to Inernet & use online services without issues", what kind of issues may occur ? network-related? OS-related?
[20:26] <Huji> EOF
[20:26] <chaker> !
[20:28] <chaker> !
[20:28] <elacheche> Huji: everything, Net, DB, OS, Hardware, Everything.. But the workshop will be oriented to GNU/Linux System Administration..
[20:29] <elacheche> I think that I should prepare a little prez about SysAdmin in general..
[20:29] <elacheche> chaker: go ahead
[20:30] <chaker> Huji: What's the number of people you expect to have, since it will make a differnce in what type of workshop that you need
[20:30] <chaker> EOF
[20:30] <elacheche> chaker: I forgot about that! We should add that to the pad :)
[20:31] <elacheche> Guys! The pad is open to everyone to contribute :)
[20:32] <elacheche> Just use different colors :)
[20:32] <SahnounM91> elacheche: Public target :16..23] years old ! why ?
[20:33] <chargui> !
[20:33] <elacheche> SahnounM91: I didn't wirte that chargui did, go ahead chargui
[20:34] <SahnounM91> i'm 24 years old -_- chargui
[20:34] <elacheche> lool SahnounM91 :) Please ask for permission to talk first :) :p
[20:34] <chargui> SahnounM91, "Let's start the meeting from the scratch.. To TALK you should ask for it by sending the ! letter, to finish a sentence you should send EOF.."
[20:34] <SahnounM91> !
[20:35] <chargui> SahnounM91, i'll chage it starting from 16 years old
[20:35] <SahnounM91> ah d'accord EOF
[20:36] <elacheche> Can we take a brack here!
[20:36] <elacheche> Everybody please rise your hands if you're here!
[20:36] <elacheche> o/*
[20:36] <elacheche> o/
[20:36] <d4rk-5c0rp> o/
[20:36] <Na3iL> o/
[20:36] <SahnounM91> o/
[20:36] <chargui> it is from 16 years because we have young boys who use fedora or arch and I think they are even better than me
[20:36] <chargui> o/
[20:37] <Huji> o/
[20:38] <Huji> !
[20:38] <elacheche> OK, guys! That pad is for you ALL to write your suggestions in there.. We will discuss the content later.. Now just everyone write what he think of 5 points we have in the list!
[20:38] <elacheche> And you can add other points if you think that we need to..
[20:39] <elacheche> It's brainstorming session :)
[20:39] <elacheche> Huji: go ahead :)
[20:39] <chargui> !
[20:40] <elacheche> @All: My job here is to improve your suggestions based on what you want and what I know that we can do :)
[20:40] <elacheche> chargui: go ahead, Huji is in the pad :)
[20:40] <Huji> about the time and the duration, I think that may depend on your availability elacheche , I'm thinking if it's going to last for days, would you be available in December's Holiday, personally, it's suits me best
[20:40] <Huji> EOF
[20:41] <Na3iL> !
[20:41] <elacheche> chargui: go ahead, I'll answer Huji in minutes..
[20:42] <chargui> I want everybody to love "Terminal" like i do and see the fun behind using it that's my point
[20:42] <chargui> and i think the club will have an admin sys project later
[20:43] <chargui> so we have to be ready for it
[20:43] <chargui> EOF
[20:44] <elacheche> OK, let me comment Huji & chargui
[20:45] <elacheche> Huji: We can arrange that.. It's not a problem.. Am not the only sysadmin in the team.. I know that after 2 sessions you guys will be able to auto-manage a SysAdmin workshop without needing me..
[20:46] <elacheche> Huji: I need to know how many days, and how many hours/day you want.. Becasue based on that information I can suggest a planning.. A suitable planning for that..
[20:46] <Huji> !
[20:47] <elacheche> chargui: Many sysadmins don't love terminal, they just use it becasue they don't have a choice :) I should probably talk about why you should master terminal as a SysAdmin.. Or a developer like d4rk-5c0rp chaker Na3iL did..
[20:47] <elacheche> s/did/do/
[20:47] <elacheche> Huji: go
[20:48] <d4rk-5c0rp> !
[20:48] <Huji> chargui: I need your opinion on my proposition about the date and the duration in order to achieve an agreement
[20:48] <Huji> elacheche: how can I cancel ! (for future cases)
[20:48] <Huji> EOF
[20:48] <chargui> !
[20:49] <elacheche> Huji: cancel what? we are not here to DECIDE! We are here to discuss and fill that pad :) We can have meetings everynight to get a good pad ;)
[20:49] <elacheche> d4rk-5c0rp: go ahead, after you chargui
[20:49] <elacheche> d4rk-5c0rp: go ahead, after you there is chargui
[20:50] <Huji> !
[20:50] <d4rk-5c0rp> since terminal's right there for me everyday to save the day, I can share my personal experience with the crowd
[20:51] <d4rk-5c0rp> so they can have an idea why loving terminal is helpful and awesome
[20:51] <d4rk-5c0rp> :)
[20:51] <d4rk-5c0rp> EOF
[20:51] <Nouhabsn> !
[20:51] <Na3iL> !
[20:51] <elacheche> That's what am talking about d4rk-5c0rp :)
[20:51] <elacheche> chargui: go ahead
[20:52] <elacheche> chargui: is not here, Huji your turn :)
[20:52] <chargui> Huji, negative december holiday no one will be there except few who lives
[20:52] <Huji> elacheche: I'm talking about canceling an exclamation mark "!", in other words how can I cancel my demand for permission, in case somebody has already answered my question
[20:53] <Huji> ah too bad :(
[20:53] <Huji> EOF
[20:53] <elacheche> Huji: just pass when I ask you to talk :) it's not a big deal :D Nouhabsn go ahead :)
[20:53] <chargui> EOF
[20:54] <elacheche> Nouhabsn: you're here?*
[20:55] <elacheche> Ok, Na3iL you go :)
[20:55] <Na3iL> I will talk about the #2 point
[20:55] <Na3iL> if the workshop will be during 2 days or more I think we should make it more open to others, I mean we should make it public not only with peeps that have already background/skills about GNU/Linux distros
[20:55] <Nouhabsn> yes i think that fisrt a presentation about adminSys should be done in order to know what really is exactly and how can we use it and for what perpeses
[20:55] <Na3iL> Thus, we should have 1st part about install party for them & learn them the basics about GNU/Linux I think many other members in u-tn can handle it
[20:56] <Na3iL> EOF
[20:56] <Huji> !
[20:57] <elacheche> Huji: Yes
[20:57] <Huji> I agree with Na3iL , but I suggest 3 days session: Install Party, Theoritical session and a workshop to practice those
[20:57] <Huji> EOF
[20:58] <chargui> !
[20:58] <elacheche> chargui: go
[20:58] <chargui> for me
[20:59] <chargui> every person not capable of installing GNU/Linux by him self is not welcomed he will slow us
[20:59] <chargui> Having GNU/Linux Os is premordial
[20:59] <Na3iL> !
[20:59] <chargui> primordial*
[21:00] <elacheche> OK, last one to talk is Na3iL then I'll comment what I read :)
[21:00] <chargui> no install party
[21:00] <chargui> EOF
[21:00] <elacheche> go ahead Na3iL
[21:01] <Na3iL> chargui, this workshop will be essentially for education
[21:01] <Na3iL> you mention that they will be there kids
[21:01] <chargui> !
[21:01] <Na3iL> EOF
[21:02] <elacheche> chargui: You don't have permission to talk, let me comment first :)
[21:03] <elacheche> OK, I love all the suggestions I read here or in the pad, BASED on how many days the workshop will be we can manage to MAKE ALL those suggestions REAL..
[21:04] <elacheche> The thing here, that everyone of you is here with a goal in his mind, I need you to write what you want based on your goal on that pad answering those questions..
[21:04] <Huji> !
[21:05] <elacheche> You have 24h to think and write that in the pad.. It'll be our first draft.. To collect all the ideas.. It's NOT the good time to discuss the ideas.. LEt's have every little idea first..
[21:05] <elacheche> chargui: go ahead
[21:05] <chargui> Na3iL, the kids already works on GNU/Linux OS (Fedora and arch)
[21:05] <elacheche> Huji: is next, and we END the meeting after Huji :)
[21:05] <chargui> EOF
[21:06] <elacheche> Huji: go$
[21:06] <Huji> I Have a suggestion: tomorrow we have a python workshop in the FSM, we'll make a survey then to acquire their opinions and come back with more data which are helpful to fill our pad
[21:06] <Huji> EOF
[21:07] <elacheche> OK, Huji that'll be great :) let's finish with this meeting for tonight.. But before, I need you all to confirm that you'll write you're ideas in the pad..
[21:07] <elacheche> Are we OK everybody?
[21:07] <Huji> OK
[21:07] <elacheche> no need to ask for a permission now :) just answer :D
[21:07] <chargui> ok
[21:08] <elacheche> You have the pad link, just write WHATEVER you think.. Every idea is a GREAt idea, IF we don't use it for this workshop will use it for an other one..
[21:08] <Guest98111> ok
[21:09] <elacheche> chaker: Na3iL d4rk-5c0rp you too guys can write whatever you think
[21:09] <d4rk-5c0rp> fr sure elacheche
[21:09] <elacheche> chargui: Huji Nouhabsn we still have time to take decisions.. So use that time by writing everything in that pad..
[21:10] <elacheche> Guest98111: I don't know you, but go ahead and contribute :D
[21:10] <Na3iL> Guest98111, was his nickname pseduo x) x)
[21:11] <elacheche> chargui: Huji Nouhabsn when you like to meet again here to have an other chitchat session? I'm always here, Na3iL chaker d4rk-5c0rp are alsways here too..
[21:11] <chargui> elacheche, you said we have 24 hr so tomorrow we will fill it with the other members
[21:12] <elacheche> chargui: PLEASE DON'T do a brainstorming then write it donw in that pad :D I need everyone to write his OWN ideas.. :p
[21:12] <elacheche> chargui: we can have 1hours meeting every night here :)
[21:12] <chargui> elacheche, ok
[21:13] <d4rk-5c0rp> so basically you just need to share that pad link chargui :D
[21:13] <elacheche> 1 hour*
[21:13] <chargui> elacheche, 9 pm will it be good for you ?
[21:14] <elacheche> chargui: You need to know just 1 information.. And confirm it with your SPARTIAN team.. How many days will have :) Because based on that information we can or can not do something
[21:14] <elacheche> chargui: Am every night here :)
[21:15] <elacheche> chargui: Huji Nouhabsn happy to see you here :) I should go, we talk later :)
[21:15] <Huji> Good night !
[21:15] <chargui> elacheche, in your opinion how many session will take to turn us from zero to hero :v
[21:15] <elacheche> chargui: tell to sahnoun that he need to write his suggestions too :) :D
[21:16] <elacheche> chargui: I'm not a "hero" yet, so I have no idea :)
[21:16] <chargui> elacheche, ok i'll tell him
[21:17] <chargui> that's because you work alone as a team we have a chance
[21:17] <elacheche> Ask the opinion of cbj or chaker .. I GTG.. See you later :)
[21:18] <chargui> ok good night then
[21:18] <elacheche> d4rk-5c0rp: come to #clibre.tn please
[21:20] <chargui> good night everybody I have work to do
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-gnome
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[06:07] <jono> hey all
[07:43] <darkxst> ricotz, did you get any response from debian re soname bump for gjs?
[07:47] <ricotz> darkxst, I made mbiebl aware of it, but it seems he doesnt care
[07:48] <ricotz> darkxst, note the package-name is the same since Trusty, and I guess there were more breakages since then
[07:50] <darkxst> right, I didn't look back past 1.43.3, but that doesn't look so bad, most of the changes are related to the coverage stuff
[07:51] <darkxst> atleast I didnt see anything that wouldnt cause a FTBFS if code moves
[07:54] <darkxst> Noskcaj, did you get those merges done?
[07:55] <ricotz> darkxst, anyhow still there were API changes, but feel free to ignore them and drop the blocking bug report
[07:56] <darkxst> ricotz, still powerpc test failures also, but happy to ignore those for now
[07:58] <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757328
[08:00] <darkxst> for some reason its GI_TRANSFER_NOTHING on powerpc
[08:04] <ricotz> darkxst, did you try to bisect it?
[08:04] <darkxst> no but it is this https://git.gnome.org/browse/gjs/commit/?id=348ee04116eb4681320251329551d6b1ba2794d4
[08:04] <darkxst> (the test was in a different commit)
[08:05] <darkxst> but essentially on powerpc that patch does not exist
[08:05] <darkxst> atleast not for the test case
[08:06] <darkxst> and I aint bisecting anything, qemu emulation is soooooo slow
[10:25] <mgedmin> oh wow lightdm is very nice on a dual-head screen (login prompt shows up on the screen that has the mouse cursor)
[10:36] <darkxst> mgedmin, GNOME are working on that for 3.20
[10:39] <darkxst> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685300
[10:39] <darkxst> https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Initiatives/EveryDetailMatters?action=show&redirect=EveryDetailMatters
[10:47] <mgedmin> "with some flat color fill when the displays' Y resolution doesn't match"
[10:47] <mgedmin> ooh, what happens when the resolution matches?
[18:35] <bcx> Hi can I get horizontal scrolling in Nautilus as in file-roller or baobab ?
[18:41] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I don't think you will ever *need* to have horizontal scrolling.
[18:42] <JohnnyComeL8ly> bcx: ^^^
[18:43] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: ?
[18:44] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: it is difficult to manage long filenames without it ...
[18:46] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: how do you manage long file names views on little screens ?
[18:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm on Xubuntu, and with Thunar, the rename is done in a pop-up window - I think that is a better design.
[18:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I use Ubuntu-GNOME too (16.04 dev).
[18:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> bcx: how small is your monitor?
[18:50] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: 1024*768
[18:51] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You can't use the file browser in maximized position?
[18:51] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: i'm not talking about the rename, simply the view, I also have more columns, owner, perms, I would like to horizontally scroll instead of filenames being cropped
[18:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> What is the file browser which is in use?
[18:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Nautilus?
[18:54] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: yes
[18:55] <JohnnyComeL8ly> bcx: Where do you live?
[18:55] <bcx> Is thunar able to scroll horizontally ?
[18:55] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: at granma's :p
[18:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> When I hover over the horizontal bar, in detailed listing, then it scrolls sideways, but most of the time, I don't use that....
[18:56] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: Is thunar able to scroll horizontally ??? I would give it a try if so
[18:58] <JohnnyComeL8ly> bcx: I meant, Country/Region... if you live in the U.S.A., you should be able to get free monitors from people. I got most of the monitors I use for free. They are 1280x1024.
[18:58] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: Does Thunar have a configuration system as nautilus-actions ? I even would love not to re-implement my existing right-click actions ...
[18:58] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: :) I understand now
[18:58] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Yes, Thunar is able to scroll horizontally, but like I said, you have to hover over the slider-bar.
[18:59] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: I mainly use VirtualBoxes images with no drivers
[18:59] <JohnnyComeL8ly> That isn't as good as real hardware for the OS to work on.
[19:00] <JohnnyComeL8ly> (In most cases, I should say.)
[19:00] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: so in Thunar I cannot scroll horizontally with two fingers anywhere in the view, that is the workflow I am looking for
[19:01] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Unless you have really crummy hardware, and M$ windoz has the best driver. Even then, I wouldn't do it... too much black hole with M$.
[19:01] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: indeed, especially without guest additions :( , but I won resolution a level with wily's mesa drivers on vbox, before that was 800x600
[19:01] <JohnnyComeL8ly> What, are you on a touch screen lappie?
[19:03] <JohnnyComeL8ly> bcx: ^^^
[19:04] <bcx> JohnnyComeL8ly: i don't know the word lappie, no touch screen, I just use my laptop's integrated pointing device (synaptics touchpad), which is really less comfortable that on a mac
[19:05] <JohnnyComeL8ly> lappie = laptop
[19:06] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Idk about that... I get what you're saying, but have never messed with anything like that.
[23:58] <jamf> hi there!
[23:59] <jamf> i have ubuntu gnome 14.10 currently installed, and now im about to upgrade to 15.10
[23:59] <jamf> following the guide in the ubuntu-gnome website, says that i have to ppa-purge the ppa gnome3-team repos
[23:59] <jamf> and then upgrade
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-server
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[00:33] <Murdoch5> I setup remote logging from about 20 servers back to 1 point in my network. Now I have the problem of having to sort and deal with the data. What do you guys recommend for log management?
[00:58] <TJ-> Anyone familiar with PXE booting a GRUB core.pxe image?
[02:34] <Logos01> TJ-: I know I myself am not. How does it differ from 'normal' pxe-booting?
[02:35] <Logos01> Murdoch5: ELK is popular for that.
[02:35] <Logos01> Murdoch5: That is, Elasticsearch + Logstash + Kibana
[02:35] <Logos01> You might get away with just using Greylog though
[02:44] <TJ-> Logos01: differ? it doesn't, but the GRUB core I am building is causing the client to reboot instantly :) Wondering if anyone has had it properly boot the system
[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:53] <Palm_premium> lordievader, Morning
[08:53] <lordievader> Hey Palm_premium
[09:38] <arcsky> hello, if u have installed ubuntu server 15. and want Gnome on it. how is the best way to install it ?
[09:38] <arcsky> i have no X right now
[09:41] <Palm_premium> arcsky, Hello, can't you install one of those desktop-* packages?
[09:42] <lordievader> arcsky: Why not use ssh to administer the server? X is, in most cases, a waste of resources.
[09:43] <hateball> arcsky: Suggestions aside, the answer to your original question is "sudo apt-get install gnome". But using SSH is an option you should consider.
[10:36] <Sonu_> hi
[10:37] <Sonu_> i am getting " CONNECT ERROR: PHP Extensions "zlib" must be loaded."
[10:58] <Palm_premium> Hi sonu, are you using apache with php5? Did you install and enable the extension?
[12:59] <davidic654> Hi are we to expect Linux kernel vulnerabilities and reboots nearly every day now?
[13:17] <arcsky> hey guys, i just bought a KVM VPS. but now when i try to install i cant get it to work with encrypted hdd. isnt that possible with KVM ?
[13:19] <TJ-> arcsky: Insuffient data. What is the configuration of the KVM Guest ? what file-system are you trying to encrypt?
[13:20] <arcsky> TJ-: i dont know the conf for the KVM. i install via VNC. and i try to install it with LVM
[13:21] <andol> arcsky: Normally that wouldn't be a problem with a KVM setup, but I guess it depends on whatever the KVM VPS maintains it's own kernel+initrd, or if that is provided by the host system.
[13:21] <TJ-> install via VNC? doesn't make sense, you'll need to provide more detail
[13:21] <arcsky> http://ring0.se/g/d47697821766d47c.png
[13:21] <andol> TJ-: I'd imagine the VNC is a VNC accessed virtual console provided by the hosting provider.
[13:21] <TJ-> arcsky: usually the VPS provider has a system for installing default base images.
[13:22] <arcsky> i have my own image of ubuntu 15 there
[13:22] <TJ-> arcsky: where's the encryption there? that just says it failed to create an ext4 in partition #1
[13:22] <andol> arcsky: Anyway, there's the possibiilty for there being all kind of provider specific details, so you are much better of talking to your provider's support.
[13:23] <TJ-> arcsky: 'image' of the ubuntu-server installer ISO you mean?
[13:23] <arcsky> http://ring0.se/g/f46782a499621c84.png
[13:23] <arcsky> TJ-: yes
[13:24] <arcsky> did try with EXT4 and LVM
[13:24] <TJ-> arcsky: OK, well encryption hasn't entered into the equation at the point of the error. The report seems to show there's a problem with partitioning vda
[13:25] <TJ-> arcsky: are you trying to create an encrypted root file-system?
[13:27] <arcsky> TJ-: yes root filesystem encryption
[13:28] <TJ-> arcsky: so you'll be configured the KVM hypervisor to boot from a raw image, not use a preconfigured vmlinuz+initrd.img ?
[13:29] <arcsky> TJ-: sorry i bought a VPS with KVM. i have other VPS with XEN-HMV and there its easy to fix under the ubuntu installation
[13:29] <arcsky> maybe KVM doesnt support this
[13:29] <arcsky> i have no access to the the kvm config
[13:29] <TJ-> arcsky: that first error suggests that the installer is expecting to use partition #1 for the encrpyted device, but it has been set to be formatted as ext4, which conflicts. Maybe you just need to alter the settings you're giving the partitioner so partition #1 has no file-system type set
[13:29] <arcsky> i have tested with ext4 and lvm
[13:30] <TJ-> arcsky: the KVM configuration is usually controlled by the guest profile you create in the provider's web management interface
[13:32] <arcsky> ok
[13:40] <arcsky> TJ-: http://ring0.se/g/39076c9e410201ee.png this looks better?
[13:43] <TJ-> arcsky: Yes, although I don't see a need to make an extended partition with a logical for crypto. That should just be a primary partition, so there's no extended at all. I'd also use GPT rather than MBR if I wanted to reserve the option of additional partitions later.
[15:23] <theptr_> hi i have i problem with an ubuntu server 12.04 the disk is full so i added in hyper-v 40gb of disk . How do i easly add this diskspace to dev/sda1 ?
[15:23] <theptr_> i tryd sudo resize2fs /dev/sda1
[15:24] <theptr_> but that doesnt work
[15:24] <lordievader> theptr_: An ext filesystem can't be spanned over multiple block devices.
[15:25] <phre4k> can I upgrade 14.04 to 15.10 over SSH?
[15:25] <TJ-> theptr_: easiest way is to be already using LVM so you can just add another PV to the VG
[15:25] <lordievader> ^ that :D LVM \o/
[15:25] <theptr_> TJ-, problem is that my boss made the machine and not used to LVM
[15:26] <theptr_> TJ-, so its not LVM enabled
[15:26] <TJ-> theptr_: alternative way is to convert the system to be a MD RAID-0 stripe so its made up of sda and sdb
[15:26] <lordievader> theptr_: Then you need to get creative with mounts. Put something big on the 40gb disk.
[15:26] <khildin> bosses should stay away from hardware... :P
[15:26] <theptr_> khildin, for sure
[15:26] <TJ-> theptr_: that does require being careful in creating the MD device to *NOT* write any metadata at the start of the device (which involves choosing the appropriate metadata version)
[15:27] <theptr_> TJ-, So its not possible to grow the disk ?
[15:27] <theptr_> TJ-, or not in an easy way
[15:28] <lordievader> theptr_: Doesn't hyper v support that? Enlarging a disk?
[15:28] <TJ-> theptr_: the other option is to keep it as a separate disk (maybe 1 partition on it with LVM), and the move something like /var/ to a file-system on the /dev/sdb and add a mountpoint entry to fstab of the form "/dev/VG/LV /var ext4 defaults 0 2"
[15:28] <khildin> isn't it possible to create a PT and mount that?
[15:28] <theptr_> lordievader, Yes i did that but it was like 75gb zo after i expanded it it stays 75gb
[15:28] <TJ-> theptr_: the disk remains 75GB, or the partition ?
[15:28] <lordievader> theptr_: The filesystem or the disk? What does parted say abouit the disk?
[15:29] <theptr_> TJ-, partition
[15:29] <lordievader> theptr_: Ah, enlarge the partition ;)
[15:29] <TJ-> theptr_: if the disk is now larger, you will need to enlarge the (last) partition too
[15:29] <lordievader> And the filesystem.
[15:29] <TJ-> theptr_: *then* "resize2fs /dev/sda1" will work
[15:29] <theptr_> TJ-, that command doesnt work i already tryed it
[15:30] <theptr_> and im not used to hyper-v im more vmware guy but boss hates it because it costs money ...
[15:30] <lordievader> theptr_: It doesn't work if the partition ain't enlarged.
[15:30] <lordievader> theptr_: resize2fs resizes a filesystem to the partition size. If the partition size hasn't changed resize2fs won't do anything.
[15:31] <theptr_> TJ-, lordievader i used this guide but nothing works http://askubuntu.com/questions/390769/how-do-i-resize-partitions-using-command-line-without-using-a-gui-on-a-server
[15:31] <TJ-> theptr_: how large is the disk? Is it using MBR or GPT?
[15:31] <theptr_> TJ-, lordievader so now the disk is larger but the partition is the same .
[15:32] <lordievader> theptr_: Could you pastebin the output of 'sudo parted /dev/sda print'?
[15:32] <TJ-> theptr_: "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print )"
[15:33] <theptr_> hyper -v i cant copy anything so im going to ssh into it second
[15:33] <TJ-> theptr_: the command I gave you will pastebin the details for you
[15:33] <theptr_> a okay
[15:33] <TJ-> theptr_: you may need to "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" first
[15:34] <theptr_> TJ-, when i do that command it says unable to correct problems bla bla
[15:35] <TJ-> theptr_: sounds like the system has packaging faults you should fix, too!
[15:35] <TJ-> theptr_: see what this has to say: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[15:35] <theptr_> TJ-, not getting payt to fix haha
[15:35] <TJ-> Nor are we!
[15:35] <lordievader> Well, if the disk is full...
[15:35] <TJ-> lordievader: indeed; chicken and egg!
[15:36] <lordievader> My apt was broken too this morning because of a full disk.
[15:36] <TJ-> theptr_: you may gain a little space with "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove"
[15:36] <lordievader> theptr_: Is copying through ssh still an option?
[15:36] <TJ-> lordievader: really? root-fs, boot, or something else?
[15:37] <lordievader> TJ-: Root-fs, nfsen was a bit happy writing data. What I found more disturbing was the fact that Zabbix didn't bug me about it.
[15:37] <theptr_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13125016/
[15:37] <TJ-> lordievader: do you keep a separate /var/ ?
[15:37] <theptr_> lordievader, yes copy true ssh is possible
[15:37] <theptr_> lordievader, problem is that sql wont start
[15:38] <lordievader> TJ-: On that vm /var/www is seperate. (Nfsen writes to /data, that is now seperate too)
[15:38] <TJ-> theptr_: OK, you won't be able to easily extend /dev/sda1 since there are additional partitions after i
[15:38] <TJ-> t
[15:38] <lordievader> Bummer
[15:38] <theptr_> lordievader, TJ- im like working over for 4 hours now so if its not an easy fix i leave it so until tommorow
[15:38] <TJ-> lordievader: right. I always have a separate LV for /var/ and another for /var/cache/
[15:39] <lordievader> If swap ain't used you could teoretically remove it temporarily.
[15:39] <TJ-> theptr_: ^^^ as lordievader says
[15:39] <theptr_> TJ-, lordievader always problems with machines that i not install myself
[15:39] <lordievader> TJ-: Haven't found the need for that on that vm yet. Usually it well behaves.
[15:39] <lordievader> theptr_: We all have problems with machines we don't install ourselves :P
[15:39] <TJ-> theptr_: "pastebinit /proc/swaps"
[15:40] <theptr_> lordievader, lol
[15:40] <TJ-> And some of us have problems with machines we install ourselves, too :P
[15:40] <TJ-> And some of us have problems even GETTING to the installed stage :D
[15:40] <theptr_> TJ-, lol
[15:40] <theptr_> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13125048/
[15:41] <lordievader> That too...
[15:41] <lordievader> What a drag it is.
[15:41] <theptr_> TJ-, lordievader so im not the only one :)
[15:42] <theptr_> TJ-, lordievader thanks for the help but would it not be easyer to just do as you say before make an extra mount and extra partition
[15:42] <TJ-> I've got a mobo here won't boot from USB; doesn't like the images no matter what I do. It can't do PXE (only does Novell Netware remote boot) so I plugged an Intel dual PCI NIC in which has PXE, but the PXE boot is now having problems. The IDE DOM module which was supposed to receive the installation has burnt out a trace on its PCB and killed its voltate regulator! Doing really well on this one :)
[15:43] <TJ-> theptr_: that last pastebin was the same as the first :)
[15:43] <TJ-> theptr_: "pastebinit /proc/swaps"
[15:45] <jcastro> hey rbasak
[15:45] <jcastro> what was the tldr on ntp by default?
[15:57] <rbasak> jcastro: not needed because systemd timesyncd
[15:58] <rbasak> jcastro: it's on by default if ntp isn't installed, and syncs time.
[15:58] <marcoceppi_> rbasak: and that's in vivid onwards?
[16:04] <ack__> Hello ... is MYSQLI_ASYNC a constant I should expect to be available in 14.04? Getting Use of undefined constant MYSQLI_ASYNC - assumed 'MYSQLI_ASYNC' in a PHP script
[16:04] <ack__> phpinfo shows mysqlnd is loaded
[16:57] <repozitor> is there exist another professional tool for server adminstration, except webadmin?
[16:58] <sarnold> if you use one of those web control panel things please make sure you've firewalled the machine and only allow access from only allowed IPs
[16:58] <sarnold> those control panels are universally terrible
[16:58] <patdk-wk> I always use ssh, been working great for years
[16:58] <sarnold> yes
[16:58] <repozitor> patdk-wk, no, sometimes web app is better
[16:59] <patdk-wk> heh?
[16:59] <patdk-wk> there is never a case where webapp is better, more useful maybe, but never better :)
[16:59] <patdk-wk> or meets a very specific usecase need
[17:00] <repozitor> patdk-wk, when you on mobile, so what do you think?
[17:00] <repozitor> which on is better?
[17:00] <patdk-wk> I believe webmin is the *only* one that is even alittle supported for debian/ubuntu
[17:00] <repozitor> :P
[17:00] <patdk-wk> heh?
[17:00] <patdk-wk> I am ALWAYS mobile, ssh was made for mobile use
[17:01] <patdk-wk> yes, I have ssh client on my phone
[17:01] <sarnold> repozitor: try mosh for poor connections, it's great
[17:01] <patdk-wk> but personally, I normally use my laptop that I ALWAYS take with me
[17:01] <patdk-wk> sometimes I must admin a windows machine, and that is always fun
[17:02] <repozitor> patdk-wk, even on plane or train or road?
[17:02] <repozitor> :D
[17:03] <patdk-wk> hmm, yes? what else is *mobile*?
[17:03] <patdk-wk> I often sit in the back seat of the car, and work on my laptop
[17:04] <patdk-wk> sometimes in the plane, but not often
[17:04] <patdk-wk> never on a train, cause I never take trains
[17:08] <repozitor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13126248/
[17:08] <repozitor> there is no webmin on my system
[17:08] <repozitor> what is wrong with apt-get?
[17:09] <sarnold> have you run apt-get update recently?
[17:09] <repozitor> yeah
[17:10] <sarnold> then for each of those try apt-get install libnet-ssleay-perl ; apt-get install libauthen-pam-perl ; apt-get install libio-pty-perl ; apt-get install apt-show-versions
[17:12] <repozitor> with -f option?
[17:12] <repozitor> needing to force?
[17:12] <sarnold> avoid it if you can
[17:12] <repozitor> sarnold, so that error printed to me
[17:12] <repozitor> can't avoid it, any idea?
[17:13] <sarnold> what happened with the other four apt-get install lines?
[17:13] <repozitor> something like previous
[17:14] <repozitor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13126332/
[17:14] <repozitor> take a look
[17:14] <sarnold> yeah, try apt-get install -f
[17:15] <repozitor> so you will reponsible for that :P
[17:16] <sarnold> heh, your system is pretty unhappy, I haven't seen apt that upset in a dozen years..
[17:17] <patdk-wk> looks like a simple thing though
[17:17] <repozitor> that's awfull
[17:17] <repozitor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13126371/
[17:17] <patdk-wk> someone did a inproper upgrade
[17:17] <patdk-wk> or added some php ppa that isn't maintained anymore
[17:17] <sarnold> repozitor: just a plain "apt-get -f install", no parameters..
[17:18] <repozitor> -f meaning —fix-missing?
[17:18] <sarnold> just copy and paste what the error says :) heh
[17:18] <patdk-wk> generally it will finish installing half-installed packages
[17:18] <patdk-wk> where a package died, apt was killed, or something happened
[17:19] <repozitor> so it is fix missing
[17:20] <patdk-wk> sorry, having a hard time concentrating, https://twitter.com/reubenbond/status/662061791497744384
[18:28] <rbasak> marcoceppi_: yes
[18:28] <rbasak> jcastro, marcoceppi_: I'm not sure I like it but that's how it is for now anyway. I don't know of any changes to change it in Xenial.
[18:34] <hehnope> what do you guys do for ddos mitigation?
[18:40] <patdk-wk> there is nothing you can do, except as much as possible
[18:41] <patdk-wk> easy solutions are dns and ip blackholes
[18:41] <patdk-wk> harder solutions is actually making things still work
[18:42] <patdk-wk> the *best* you can hope for, is a ddos that you can mitigate
[18:42] <patdk-wk> as in, it uses a single dns entry, ip, or depends on tcp connections
[18:43] <patdk-wk> and you can just stop responding to what looks like the attack, and continue processing the others
[18:43] <patdk-wk> if they flood your incoming pipe, then your just screwed, ip blackhole can help you there some
[18:46] <JanC> best is if you can avoid it :)
[18:46] <jcastro> rbasak: yeah we just ran into an ntp issue on a host and were just thinking outloud "did we fix time yet?"
[18:47] <jcastro> tldr some jenkins slaves clocks were off, aws and joyent cared, other clouds didn't, took a while to figure out why
[19:31] <caribou> smoser: I'm looking at the haproxy LP: #1477198 bug
[19:31] <caribou> smoser: I have an in flight SRU for this in trusty
[19:31] <smoser> wait, what ?
[19:31] <smoser> its been sru'd to trusty
[19:31] <smoser> via niedbalski
[19:31] <smoser> right ?
[19:32] <caribou> smoser: LP: #1481737
[19:32] <smoser> :)
[19:32] <smoser> funny.
[19:32] <smoser> yeah, that was the thing i was just realizing
[19:32] <caribou> smoser: I'll try to get someone to do the SRU
[19:33] <smoser> it seems like we should fix this in xenial / wily too
[19:33] <caribou> smoser: then the remaining is to either fix 1.5 in trusty-backport LP: #1494141
[19:33] <smoser> to just dtrt if there is no --pid option to start-stop-daemon
[19:34] <caribou> smoser: they're fine since dpkg has the --pid option that causes the bug
[19:34] <smoser> "they" ?
[19:34] <smoser> backports ?
[19:35] <caribou> sorry they = wily & xenial
[19:35] <smoser> right. but then it causes cloud archive bugs
[19:35] <smoser> because you dont fix it to work with older start-stop-daemon
[19:35] <caribou> smoser: cloud archive uses 1.5 ?
[19:36] <smoser> clodu-archive kilo == what-is-in-vivid
[19:36] <caribou> smoser: the fix in 1.4 awaiting SRU does, then I was planning to fix 1.5
[19:36] <smoser> cloud-archive liberty == what-is-in-wily
[19:36] <caribou> smoser: I was told to fix -updates first and then care about 1.5 (in trusty-backport)
[19:37] <caribou> that's a bug that rbasak handed to me a while ago
[19:37] <caribou> anyway, I can fix it anywhere you want once it is SRUed
[19:39] <caribou> smoser: it is friday so the SRU will only go to -proposed but I can get the trusty-backport patch ready
[19:39] <caribou> smoser: and vivid as well
[19:41] <smoser> the other thing to do would be to get the start-stop-daemon fix back to trusty
[19:41] <caribou> smoser: working on it
[19:41] <smoser> from dpkg ?
[19:41] <caribou> smoser: no, haproxy on vivid
[19:42] <caribou> smoser: I'll look at it
[19:42] <caribou> smoser: dpkg
[19:42] <smoser> right. one other way to fix this is to make trusty's start-stop-daemon able to accept --pidfile
[19:56] <smoser> caribou, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13128831/
[19:57] <smoser> that seems like it should work
[20:00] <caribou> smoser: why go to the extent to check for --pid existence if just looping on each pid in the pidfile sufficient ,
[20:00] <caribou> ?
[20:01] <smoser> no good reason. other than keeping it more in line with what is in debian.
[20:01] <caribou> ah, ok
[20:01] <smoser> but that is a good point. its really the same and easier to just use --pid
[20:03] <kyle____> Is anyone here running apt-cacher-ng on a network that gets hit by security scanners constantly (nessus, qualys, etc)?
[20:03] <Pici> kyle____: Whats the actual question?
[20:04] <smoser> caribou, definitely shorter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13128940/
[20:04] <kyle____> Pici: If your cacher is getting kocked over constantly by the security scans.
[20:04] <kyle____> And if there was a way of fixing it.
[20:04] <smoser> and all in all the same. even one *less* fork. not sure why i'd want to use --pid
[20:05] <smoser> what was the change you proposed into trusty ?
[20:05] <sarnold> kyle____: do your acls allow the whole world to use your proxy? is that what you want?
[20:05] <Pici> (or don't want?)
[20:06] <smoser> caribou, ^
[20:06] <caribou> smoser: pretty much what you just proposed but with a trap() to cleanup proposed by rbasak
[20:07] <kyle____> sarnold: No, the proxy is only available on our internal network, but our security folks consntatly run scanners, and when they see it responds to http, it slams them with known vulns for various different web servers, and application servers.
[20:07] <smoser> ah. yeah, ok. sure. just didnt bother with the trap.
[20:07] <caribou> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13128969/
[20:07] <sarnold> kyle____: ahhhhhhh
[20:07] <decipher> hi guys - i have a ubuntu 14.04 server running on AWS. I keep getting the "[access_compat:error] [pid 9802] [client 127.0.0.1:39164] AH01797: client denied by server configuration" error message on my logs. i have php 2.4 and i made sure that the require all granted directive is on my vhost. however, this doesn't fix the problem.
[20:08] <sarnold> decipher: check for the trailing '/' on directory or path names in your configs. try fiddling with those.
[20:08] <kyle____> sarnold: Yeah. And either the security guy doesn't know how to tell the scanner not to bother with wordpress (for example) exploits against the cacher, or the scanner isn't configurable enough to not do that sort of thing.
[20:08] <smoser> trap in functions is hard since its basically a global.
[20:09] <smoser> if you've not uploaded, i'd sugest quoting the 'tmp' everywhere.
[20:09] <smoser> and you actually really *should* set 'tmp' before 'rm -f' it.
[20:09] <sarnold> kyle____: the smartass in me wonders about tarpitting the scanner to give him encouragement to figure out how to whitelist your server :)
[20:09] <smoser> as you'll kill someones file that they had somehow into their environment $tmp
[20:09] <decipher> sarnold - do you mean i should include a trailing slash on my directory?
[20:09] <caribou> hmm, I thought I did
[20:09] <sarnold> decipher: I think remove it. I just remember that apache's error message is nearly useless.
[20:09] <kyle____> sarnold: I *cough* __may__ have done something like that with iptables magic, and was told not to, because it defeated the purpouse of the security policy.
[20:10] <sarnold> kyle____: heheh
[20:10] <smoser> in that patch there, this would cause problems: sudo tmpf=/etc/passwd service haproxy start
[20:11] <kyle____> I like having the security guy, and having im scan consantly, and making sure we have no gaping holes.....but killing thigns constantly is really bugging me.
[20:11] <decipher> sarnold - this is on my apache2.conf file
[20:11] <decipher> <Directory />
[20:11] <decipher> Options FollowSymLinks
[20:11] <decipher> AllowOverride None
[20:11] <decipher> Require all denied
[20:11] <decipher> should i comment this out?
[20:12] <RoyK> !pastebin | decipher
[20:12] <sarnold> decipher: oh. I thoght it'd be more involved than that
[20:12] <decipher> ooops. my bad!
[20:13] <sarnold> decipher: just keep in mind when you start doing <directory /foo/bar> vs <directory /foo/bar/> and get confusing error messages, the last / might be it :)
[20:14] <sarnold> decipher: note that 2.4 changed drastically from 2.2 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/auth.html
[20:14] <decipher> sarnold: i hear you. i'm using ispconfig to manage my site. it automatically generates the vhost for me
[20:15] <decipher> sarnold: the vhost for my site does not have any trailing / on it
[21:21] <wehde> does anyone here know how to get ansible to only run against failed hosts?
[21:35] <RoyK> wehde: huh?
[21:36] <RoyK> wehde: failed hosts aren't usually available over the network...
[21:37] <lordievader> It does sound like you need magic to pull that off.
[21:39] <wehde> RoyK, hosts can fail in ansible for even ssh prompting to accept the host key
[21:40] <wehde> RoyK, or if the workstation was powered down and will be back online monday i'd like to be able to run the same playbook agianst just the failed hosts
[23:13] <PermaNulled> Can someone help me out with some udev issues? http://pastie.org/pastes/10534977/text?key=kj8jl10lekbo24r2ekzfa
[23:14] <PermaNulled> Whenever I run apt-get upgrade it's removing execute from systemd-udevd and fails to restart
[23:19] <sarnold> PermaNulled: is there anything else in any logs? journals?
[23:20] <PermaNulled> http://pastie.org/pastes/10534983/text?key=hyvoj4jbyebb4mfxlnjjg
[23:20] <PermaNulled> There's ouput from journalctl -xe
[23:28] <PermaNulled> Any ideas?
[23:45] <wiuempe> hello
[23:45] <wiuempe> anyone know why postfix logs into /var/log/mail.log and /var/log/syslog on ubuntu 14.04?
[23:50] <TJ-> wiuempe: the config in /mnt/target/usr/share/rsyslog/50-default.conf
[23:51] <wiuempe> TJ-: i add to this file line: "& ~" and works good
[23:53] <wiuempe> TJ-: maybe do you know if i can in 14.04 configure service to respawn after kill?
[23:53] <TJ-> wiuempe: That's be an Upstart job configuration in /etc/init/<service>.conf
[23:54] <wiuempe> TJ-: oughhh... spamassassin has only init.d script
[23:56] <TJ-> wiuempe: in which case I think those are started via Upstart's /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf
[23:58] <wiuempe> TJ-: yes, you are right, but how to respaw spamassassin?
[23:59] <TJ-> wiuempe: I do not know; if it is dieing I'd rather want to fix that :)
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[22:12] <gogu> bunaseara, mai e cineva pe aici?
[22:34] <Laur> Buna seara
[22:59] <Vader> careva on?
[23:17] <Jobava> salut Vader
[23:19] <Vader> Salut
[23:19] <Vader> Ai 1 minut sa-mi asculti si mie rugamintea?
[23:19] <Jobava> Vader: sigur
[23:20] <Vader> Am niste vps-uri la Digital Ocean si as vrea sa stiu cum as putea sa le protejez de shell-uri gen c99, r57.php
[23:20] <Vader> Vreau sa gazduiesc vreo 100 domenii pe un vps mai puternic, cu Nginx, Varnish, etc
[23:20] <Vader> Si ma gandesc serios la securitate, protectii, etc.
[23:22] <Jobava> Vader: nu pot să te ajut aici, ai putea să mai întrebi pe #startups sau pe #nginx
[23:23] <Vader> Inteleg, multumesc frumos.
[23:23] <Vader> Dar cu niste sfaturi de securitate m-ai putea ajuta? sau articole pe forum ceva
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[01:38] <kenvandine> ugh... it didn't make me ack the packaging changes last time when it went to the unapproved queue
[01:38] <kenvandine> robru, publishing again
[02:53] <robru> kenvandine: yeah for some reason it didn't have a packaging diff to vivid, only to vivid overlay.
[02:53] <robru> kenvandine: thanks
[08:58] <Mirv> Saviq: I'm not sure yet if the logic is 100% correct, but the CI Train has detected that qtubuntu would need a rebuild in 021
[08:59] <Mirv> no, but that sounds false really
[08:59] <Mirv> the latest is 20151021
[09:00] <Mirv> let's try something, but if train is mistaken completely we might eventually need robru
[09:00] <Mirv> since we don't want to rebuild if it's not really needed
[09:00] <Mirv> or well, I could consider doing the copies manually and merge+clean
[09:01] <Mirv> Saviq: ah, no it's not error, dednick has changed one branch 25 mins ago!
[09:01] <Mirv> dednick: this went through whole QA now and was accepted, but your change now made the silo dirty :(
[09:01] <dednick> i dint know it was accepted.
[09:01] <Mirv> in https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/qtubuntu/lp1475678.surface-occlude/+merge/273424
[09:02] <Mirv> dednick: when it's given to QA, at that point it should be completely frozen
[09:02] <Mirv> robru: unping, train working completely correctly, thanks for the nice checks! :)
[09:02] <dednick> i didnt know it had gone to QA either. my branch wasn't even Approved yet.
[09:02] <dednick> "top approved"
[09:03] <Mirv> dednick: top-approved 2015-10-20 it says at https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/qtubuntu/lp1475678.surface-occlude/+merge/273424 ?
[09:04] <dednick> oh right, my bad. dandrader set it to "needs fixing" again yesterday after a change.
[09:04] <dednick> bug fix.
[09:05] <dednick> Mirv: the change yesterday was just a variable name change. i can revert if necessary.
[09:05] <Saviq> dednick, yes, if we can, please revert to the state before yesterday evening
[09:06] <Mirv> yeah it's all alright if you don't really need a rebuild. if nothing else, I can copy the packages manually but maybe uncommit + push-overwrite would convince train again
[09:06] <Saviq> Mirv, it won't
[09:06] <Mirv> maybe file a bug to change the variable name later
[09:06] <Saviq> Mirv, not even a watch-only rebuild
[09:06] <dednick> Saviq: done.
[09:06] <Mirv> Saviq: ah, you've been there. well then, then I'll handle it manually.
[09:06] <Saviq> Mirv, thanks
[09:07] <Mirv> after seeing myself that yes it won't work :)
[09:15] <Mirv> Saviq: ok done except for unity-api which is the only main package and only package that didn't have packaging changes so I didn't notice I can't copy it...
[09:16] <Mirv> vivid all done, so xenial unity-api need to find core-dev before merge&clean can be done
[09:16] <Saviq> Mirv, ack, not a huge problem as that's a build dependency only anyway
[09:25] <oSoMoN> jibel, did you change the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtubuntu/+bug/1504293 by mistake? afaik the fix is still in silo 21
[09:25] <jibel> oSoMoN, silo 21 landed last night
[09:25] <jibel> not copied though
[09:26] <Mirv> landed but not copied :) now copied too.
[09:26] <jibel> thanks
[09:27] <jibel> I'll ask sil2100 to rebuild an image with all that stuff in the afternoon
[09:27] <oSoMoN> jibel, trainguards: then https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/564 is lying, it doesn’t say "landed"
[09:31] <Mirv> oSoMoN: so jibel meant it "landed" as in QA approved it. I meant that there was a wrong commit 1h ago that confused train, but I've now _copied_ ie published the packages, and about to clean the silo. a bit complex landing, that is :)
[09:32] <oSoMoN> yeah, I’ve seen the packages in the overlay PPA and in the xenial archive, was wondering why the discrepancy in the train status, thanks for clarifying
[09:32] <Mirv> oSoMoN: currently train can't undirty a silo once it has dirtied it, even if a mistaken commit is pulled away
[09:33] <Mirv> nice that the merging works without forcing ie it checks that my manual publishing was complete and was happy with it
[09:33] <jibel> yeah sorry, I jumped the gun, I didn't check the landed status. Usually when it's mark QA Granted the copy happens quickly after
[09:35] <jibel> bileto could probably update the status of canonical system image tasks automatically and save some clicks
[09:36] <jibel> Saviq, bug 1511711 was also fixed in silo 21?
[09:37] <jibel> oSoMoN, bug 1487090 was fixed in latest landing of oxide?
[09:40] <oSoMoN> jibel, yes
[09:41] <jibel> cool, then that's 1 regression left in OTA8
[09:43] <oSoMoN> jibel, which one?
[09:44] <jibel> oSoMoN, not webbrower related. bug 1509118
[13:19] <rvr> seb128: ping
[13:19] <seb128> rvr, hey
[13:19] <rvr> seb128: Hey
[13:19] <rvr> seb128: Silo 3
[13:19] <rvr> seb128: In the test plan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/gsettings-qt
[13:20] <rvr> seb128: «Open system settings with the security panel. Ensure "Dash search" is set to "Phone and Internet"»
[13:20] <rvr> seb128: I see no Dash search option in the phone :-/
[13:21] <seb128> rvr, oh, right, that got removed, we should update the test plan
[13:22] <rvr> seb128: Second test case still valid?
[13:22] <seb128> it should
[13:23] <seb128> rvr, for the first test case, replace that by
[13:23] <jibel> dbarth_, hi, if bug 1511768 has to go into ota8, there is still time but the MP must be reviewed and top approved.
[13:24] <jibel> dbarth_, it's in silo 1
[13:24] <seb128> rvr, open system settings->about->storage, change the sort order from applications between name/size, close the panel and reopen, it should have the previous value still used
[13:26] <rvr> seb128: Second time I open, it also takes time to calculate the disk used. Is that fine?
[13:26] <seb128> yes
[13:26] <seb128> it does the full calculation every time
[13:28] <rvr> seb128: Nice, it passes
[13:28] <seb128> rvr, great, thanks for testing, and sorry about the outdated wiki, I'm going to fix it
[13:33] <rvr> seb128: The qml test case is no longer valid also, at least the bit of the Dash search.
[13:33] <rvr> Possible values are right
[13:33] <seb128> k
[13:34] <seb128> going to fix that as well
[13:38] <rvr> dbarth_: The merge proposal in silo 1 needs review and approval
[13:38] <rvr> mardy: ^
[13:42] <jibel> cihelp: do you know anything about http://ci.ubuntu.com/mir_performance/glmark2/ and what is supposed to be under this link?
[13:50] <mardy> rvr: I guess I shouldn't self-approve it... can you start the testing of the silo anyway, while we wait for dbarth's ack?
[13:50] <rvr> mardy: What if he doesn't like it? :D
[13:51] <mardy> rvr: nah, he likes eveything that I do :-)
[14:07] <dbarth_> rvr: ack
[14:09] <mardy> rvr: you see? I told you :-p
[14:20] <mardy> dbarth_: silo 58 has also finished building now, you can start reviewing the branches if you like (signon, libaccounts-qt and accounts-qml-module have already been reviewed upstream, so you can go light on them)
[14:40] <josepht> jibel: nothing other than it was some mir testing that was being run at one time but they stopped.
[14:41] <jibel> josepht, do you know where the code of the test is or who owned it,
[14:41] <jibel> ?
[14:44] <josepht> jibel: I have no idea where the code is. afair it was the mir team that owned it. It was something Chris Gagnon was working on quite a while ago.
[14:44] <jibel> josepht, ack, thanks. I'll see we kgunn and his team.
[14:53] <josepht> jibel: https://code.launchpad.net/~josharenson/qa-dash-mir-performance/trunk is where that plugin comes from
[14:54] <josepht> jibel: It's supposed to be parsing the results of this job https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-mediumtests-runner-mako/
[14:54] <josepht> jibel: and it was Josh Arenson not Chris Gagnon
[14:55] <jibel> josepht, Excellent. Thanks for the details.
[14:55] <josepht> jibel: you're welcome
[14:56] <abeato> trainguards, the armhf build of silo 9 is taking too long: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-009-1-build/393/console
[14:56] * abeato wondering if there is something wrong happening
[14:56] <abeato> jhodapp, ^^
[15:06] <jibel> sil2100, do you think you could rebuild an image today to have a build before the week end with latest unity8/mir ?
[15:09] <sil2100> jibel: sure thing
[15:09] <sil2100> I saw a lot of stuff landing till now
[15:09] <sil2100> Do we have everything we need now? I could kick an image in a moment then
[15:10] <jibel> sil2100, the only package that has not been copied is gsettings-qt I think
[15:10] <pmcgowan> yeah major landings today, very nice
[15:10] <pmcgowan> sooo many fixes
[15:10] <jibel> sil2100, we have everything. davmor2 will prbaobly fail libinput and rvr just started on online-accounts
[15:11] <jibel> sil2100, you can kick an image now if you want
[15:11] <jibel> sil2100, custom tarballs failed verification
[15:11] <jibel> sil2100, so it's a next week thing now
[15:11] <davmor2> jibel: I am failing libinput
[15:11] <jibel> davmor2, all right
[15:12] <anpok_> fail?
[15:12] <jibel> davmor2, ^
[15:13] <robru> abeato: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-009/+build/8271527 the build is happening, so it's not a train issue (eg, train isn't stalled, train is accurately reporting that the build is bulding).
[15:13] <sil2100> I was pretty scared by the number of things landing in the overlay today when I woke up
[15:13] <davmor2> anpok_: Yes, short power button tap on krillin is not functioning and power button and screen are not working on arale at all
[15:13] <sil2100> I'm like, damn, devs and QA went crazy with those silos
[15:13] <sil2100> Kicking an image
[15:14] <jibel> boiko, which version of messaging app has the fix for bug 1513044 ?
[15:15] <boiko> jibel: it landed yesterday, I forgot to mark the branch as fixing the bug, just a sec, let me check
[15:15] <anpok_> davmor2: ok - I believe that will be fixed by https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-pocket-desktop/+bug/1511095
[15:15] <boiko> jibel: 0.1+16.04.20151104-0ubuntu1
[15:16] <anpok_> davmor2: but will look again..
[15:17] <jibel> boiko, which silo was it? I cannot find it
[15:17] <boiko> jibel: let me check
[15:17] <jibel> ah 29
[15:18] <boiko> jibel: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/603
[15:19] <jibel> boiko, yeah it was marked 'no qa needed' that's why I didn't find a trace of the verification
[15:20] <boiko> jibel: no code changes were necessary, only changes to the autopilot tests themselves
[15:26] <jibel> boiko, right, thanks.
[15:47] <rvr> mardy: Weird, without the silo it the app doesn't crash
[15:49] <rvr> mardy: dbus[2168]: apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call" bus="session" path="/com/ubuntu/OnlineAccounts/Manager" interface="com.ubuntu.OnlineAccounts.Manager" member="RequestAccess" mask="send" name="com.ubuntu.OnlineAccounts.Manager" pid=2543 label="it.mardy.uploader_uploader_0.3" peer_pid=2577 peer_label="unconfined"
[16:02] <kgunn> sil2100: bregma was just saying if you know the file that needs to be added
[16:02] <kgunn> they could put it in the libertine-demo pkg
[16:16] <jhodapp> robru, hey when you get a chance can you please dput my latest qtmultimedia changes from ppa:jhodapp/ubuntu/ppa to silo 9
[16:30] <Mirv> jhodapp: hey. so trying to understand the playlist stuff.. for example if upstream addItems, possibly insertItems, and we have addSources, how does that not cause problems in the future when we drop our addSources public function? or is the scope of the usage of qdeclarativeplaylist so that for example no store apps are allowed to use those?
[16:31] <jhodapp> Mirv, upstream switched to *Items for Qt 5.5, for 5.4 it's *Source
[16:31] <jhodapp> Mirv, so this is only for 5.4...I will have to port it to 5.5
[16:31] <jhodapp> and upstream
[16:32] <Mirv> jhodapp: yes, but I'm trying to understand how we are not going to be screwed even worse than with audio role API changes if we allow apps to use addSources now, and later drop all the current patches you have and get upstream ones instead. for example, I'd like to backport all the patches from upstream to 5.5 so that we follow upstream as soon as possible.
[16:33] <jhodapp> Mirv, I see what you're saying, so we haven't found a way to deal with API changes with our store yet?
[16:33] <Mirv> jhodapp: yes, and that's why I asked earlier to upstream everything first before shipping anything to our stable image users
[16:34] <jhodapp> Mirv, well to your point upstreaming won't solve it here
[16:34] <jhodapp> Mirv, the thing that will break it is a change from Qt 5.4 to 5.5
[16:34] <Mirv> jhodapp: they didn't have qdeclarativeplaylist in 5.4, it was added in 5.5 in the first place?
[16:35] <jhodapp> Mirv, right but other APIs are broken with the new 5.5/5.6 qtmultimedia
[16:35] <Mirv> jhodapp: actually, they only have it beginning with 5.6 https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/122801/ so they're committing to the 5.6 version
[16:35] <jhodapp> Mirv, err changed
[16:35] <Mirv> jhodapp: by other API:s you mean the API:s that we're shipping?
[16:36] <jhodapp> Mirv, yeah, I can't think of one offhand
[16:36] <Mirv> jhodapp: yeah, so the thing is that we shouldn't have shipped _anything_ in our stable images that upstream hasn't merged to theirs
[16:36] <Mirv> jhodapp: similar to the audio role API changes that we are now barely surviving
[16:36] <Mirv> sil2100: jibel: I need you to stay on top of these ^ too since I anticipate trouble from us deviating from upstream
[16:37] <jhodapp> Mirv, right, we shipped the audio role patch long before they were accepting upstream changes from us so fluidly
[16:37] <jhodapp> Mirv, but anyway, your idea of porting to what's in 5.6 is a good idea
[16:38] <Mirv> jhodapp: or with 5.6 I mean 5.6 + 5.7 (current dev) + what you'll submit next from us
[16:38] <jhodapp> Mirv, right
[16:39] <Mirv> jhodapp: can we still port everything in our 5.4 to what is in upstream and will be? like, before any apps in the store start using the obsolete API?
[16:39] <jhodapp> Mirv, I'll plan on back porting that next here
[16:39] <jhodapp> Mirv, yes, absolutely
[16:39] <jhodapp> now is the time
[16:39] <Mirv> jhodapp: ok, thanks, then we're on the same page :)
[16:39] <jhodapp> Mirv, thanks for bringing this up, I don't have any experience in this myself so I'm learning about the caveats
[16:41] <Mirv> jhodapp: yeah, it's good to know that this needs to be handled. so always upstream first, once it's approved there we can ship a feature. even with that approach there are some risks - for example, they are free to change 5.7 at the moment even if they would first accept your changes, and they wouldn't commit to the API until feature freeze.
[16:41] <Mirv> (or maybe not until the release is out, not sure what's their process)
[16:42] <jhodapp> Mirv, yeah ideally I'll try to do that, but you know how everything is needing to ship ASAP
[16:44] <Mirv> jhodapp: sure. there just needs to be a line drawn somewhere, otherwise we end up in a mess that's hard to clean later when we have competing API:s from upstream, our own version, and people trying to use either or both.
[16:45] <jhodapp> Mirv, agreed...I really hope we can solve this issue in general for apps in the store. Because underlying API breakage will happen.
[16:46] <Mirv> pmcgowan: you might be interested in defining our internal rules on how we introduce API:s to (upstream) Qt. I'd appreciate requiring upstream acceptance first, but currently it's not so.
[16:47] <pmcgowan> Mirv, we are changing qt apis?
[16:48] <Mirv> pmcgowan: yes, or we're contributing Qt API:s but shipping our own, different ones earlier. This QML Playlist feature in silo 009 and also earlier uploads is something that is not upstreamed, and the portions that are upstreams got changes that are incompatible with our version.
[16:50] <pmcgowan> Mirv, ok, yeah we can easily coordinate that now with our biweekly
[16:51] <jhodapp> Mirv can you please dput my latest qtmultimedia changes from ppa:jhodapp/ubuntu/ppa to silo 9
[16:51] <jhodapp> seems robru isn't around
[16:51] <Mirv> pmcgowan: ok. jhodapp, maybe you should join the next Tuesday's meeting and we'd try to get the final API solved so that we know what to port everything to including 5.4? or at least have a plan how to go forward.
[16:51] <Mirv> jhodapp: ok
[16:52] <robru> Mirv: jhodapp: oh sorry I overlooked the last ping. I can do it
[16:52] <Mirv> robru: I copied it now
[16:52] <jhodapp> Mirv, you're welcome to invite me, I'm pretty confident that what's in 5.6 is the final API but I can double check this with Yoann, QtMultimedia upstream
[16:52] <robru> Mirv: thanks
[16:52] <jhodapp> thanks Mirv and robru
[16:54] <jhodapp> Mirv, just emailed Yoann and CCed you on it
[16:57] <Mirv> jhodapp: isn't it still evolving? you're submitting the addItems() to 5.7 (dev) and Yoann is asking it to be renamed, and the ubuntu15 upload had eg. moveMedia which isn't in upstream either? so not "final" as such.
[16:57] <jhodapp> Mirv, well I mean from their point of view
[16:57] <jhodapp> upstream's
[16:58] <Mirv> jhodapp: well you'd need to eventually submit everything we want to use to their 5.7, otherwise we shouldn't add our own functions in the first place? but yes, if you mean that they're not going to do changes to their current API, yes, then I understand.
[16:58] <jhodapp> Mirv, yes I mean that and I'll have to coordinate with Yoann for our further changes
[16:59] <Mirv> jhodapp: ok!
[16:59] <jhodapp> Mirv, I don't anticipate anymore API changes from what's in silo 9 now
[17:00] <Mirv> jhodapp: good that the API is gettinng final from our POV. let's get OTA-9 in line with upstream, and have the remaining moveMedia() etc changes in upstream by then too.
[17:00] <jhodapp> Mirv, yeah indeed, that'll definitely be part of my focus for this next week
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-si
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[06:47] <pitastrudl> jutro
[06:54] <napsy> lp
[08:27] <yang> .vreme lj
[08:28] <napsy> mglen
[08:59] <CrazyLemon> but not really
[09:00] <idiotern1> yes really
[09:00] <napsy> zdj je ze sunce
[09:00] <idiotern1> ja od fuzin do zaloga je se kr megla
[09:10] <CrazyLemon> https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12189776_10153585661903046_474335785262379464_n.jpg?oh=30940219534a00e823e22af682b15635&oe=56CBC99D
[09:10] <CrazyLemon> tisti v umagu se kuhajo
[09:24] <idiotern1> a to en z laserckom svet
[10:19] <anny_> Houston, we have a problem!
[10:19] <idiotern1> houston spi
[10:19] <idiotern1> a loh mi pomagamo
[10:20] <anny_> kaj zgodilo s tvojim nickom?!
[10:20] <idiotern1> a
[10:20] <idiotern1> zvil se je
[10:20] <anny_> omg, izmaličili so ga!
[10:21] <anny_> no ja...uvozit moram datoteko Keepass 1.x v Keepass 2.x
[10:21] <idioterna> sm poklepal
[10:21] <idioterna> aha to pa ne vem
[10:21] <anny_> thumbs up
[10:21] <idioterna> loh pogooglam sam to loh tut sama i guess
[10:22] <speed-> ne jo razvajat !
[10:22] <anny_> -.-
[10:23] <anny_> no pa rešimo še en probljemčk, ane (prosto po zokiju)
[10:23] <idioterna> mislm ne uporabljam keepassa mam kr gnupg za te reci
[10:23] <idioterna> zoki ga kr dobr pusha ja
[10:23] <idioterna> no sej vsi koleriki to delajo
[10:24] <idioterna> mah klinc
[10:24] <idioterna> dons sm dobre vole
[10:24] <idioterna> grem razvajat
[10:26] <idioterna> anny_: http://keepass.info/help/v2/version.html
[10:26] <Pepelka> Compatibility - KeePass
[10:26] <Pepelka> »KeePass is an open source password manager. Passwords can be stored in highly-encrypted databases, which can be unlocked with one master password or key file.«
[10:26] <idioterna> tle vse pise
[10:27] <Sky[x]> dan ;)
[10:27] <anny_> idioterna - import za 1.x je mogoč samo za Windows, ker koda napisana za Win
[10:29] <idioterna> aha
[10:29] <idioterna> a rabs windows masino
[10:29] <anny_> ali nekaj v tem stilu
[10:30] <anny_> toliko o razvajanju! :)
[10:30] <idioterna> ja loh ti nekam uploadam virtualko
[10:30] <idioterna> pozenes, poklikas, exportas, zbrises
[10:30] <anny_> dobro so tole zaštrikali...
[10:31] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny peerflix definitivno killa stream (omejitev 80 povezav).. zdaj testiram 40 povezav
[10:31] <idioterna> hm 7.7 giga je
[10:32] <anny_> to sem že poskusila
[10:32] <idioterna> pa ni slo?
[10:32] <anny_> počakaj malo, grem delat nalogo na google
[10:32] <anny_> gotovo je kdo prišel s kakšno idejo
[10:35] <anny_> ok...očitno ni rešitve
[10:36] <idioterna> hja
[10:37] <idioterna> ne cak sam
[10:37] <idioterna> ti si rekla da si ze na windows poskusila?
[10:37] <idioterna> pa ni importalo?
[10:37] <anny_> nisem še
[10:37] <idioterna> a ti pol zazipam disk image
[10:37] <anny_> vzet moram kišto od dragega
[10:37] <anny_> ful bo hepi! :)
[10:37] <idioterna> verjamem ja
[10:38] <anny_> *ta #$%" linux spet ne dela!*
[10:38] <idioterna> a on si pa nikol ne rab tvoje kiste sposodt
[10:39] <napsy> no no
[10:39] <anny_> samo ko njegova ne dela :)
[10:40] <anny_> nič...zdaj moram počakat na dovoljenje :)
[10:41] <anny_> hoče biti zraven :)
[10:41] <CrazyLemon> LOL
[10:42] <CrazyLemon> a kaj skriva na svojem računalniku? :)
[10:42] <anny_> valda se hoče kaj naučiti
[10:42] <idioterna> zanimiv, js pa suni se pa nc ne sprasujeva za dovoljenja
[10:42] <anny_> pri vas je jasno, kdo je #heker
[10:43] <anny_> pri nas tudi
[10:43] <anny_> :P
[10:43] <idioterna> aja ja sam smo tut odgovorni pa si zaupamo pa tko
[10:43] <anny_> ja ja
[10:43] <idioterna> ja mislm suni men ful zaupa
[10:43] <napsy> si sharate gmail passworde?
[10:43] <idioterna> nimamo gmaila
[10:44] <idioterna> njim pa ne zaupamo
[10:44] <CrazyLemon> buuu!
[10:44] <anny_> problem je, da ima službene fajle na kompu
[10:44] <idioterna> ja sej
[10:44] <idioterna> ne pravm da je narobe
[10:46] <anny_> ta stavek o linuxu je njegov, da ne bo pomote
[10:47] <idioterna> ja nc hudga sej
[10:47] <idioterna> js vcasih tut linux pobasham
[10:47] <idioterna> ampak ne v javnosti, se ne spodob
[10:47] <napsy> lol
[10:48] <idioterna> kva lol
[10:48] <idioterna> to je linusova naloga :)
[10:48] <anny_> hihi...jaz sem se že sprijaznila z mukami
[10:48] <idioterna> ce bi js to delu bi mi vsi pol rekl
[10:48] <idioterna> "wtf misls da si, torvalds al kaj, dej se umer"
[10:49] <anny_> Torvalds 2.0
[10:50] <anny_> eh ja...grem po en čaj
[10:53] <idioterna> dober tek
[10:54] <anny_> na zdrovlje
[10:57] <dz0ny> dan
[10:57] <napsy> lp
[10:57] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: včeraj sem z sysdig gledal kaj se dogaja
[10:58] <dz0ny> pa več povezav ustvari libtorrent :)
[10:58] <dz0ny> edin kar sem opazil je da je pošlje več udp paketov vporedno
[10:58] <dz0ny> tko da tvoj modem crkne ker v sw preverja headerje
[10:59] <dz0ny> nekje moraš imet enable multicast wlan
[10:59] <dz0ny> in ga onemogoči
[10:59] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny wlan?
[10:59] <CrazyLemon> but its not using wlan
[10:59] <dz0ny> mhm kar pride na switch > wlan
[11:00] <dz0ny> ker mora vsak udp paket preverit če je slučajno multicast
[11:00] <dz0ny> it's dumb sw switch + sw router
[11:00] <dz0ny> sucks
[11:02] <CrazyLemon> ni nikjer možnosti za multicast wlan
[11:02] <CrazyLemon> imam pa igmp snooping enabled
[11:09] <dz0ny> hm mogoče tud tisto kej počne
[11:09] <dz0ny> namen tistega je da analizira promet
[11:10] <dz0ny> ti bom eno python skripto spisal pa boš probal, če je to to :)
[11:12] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny sej delno rešim težavo če nastavim 40 povezav :)
[11:24] <CrazyLemon> 15850 ? S 0:00 sleep 10
[11:24] <CrazyLemon> 15853 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh -c if wget -qO /dev/null google.com > /dev/null; then echo "
[11:24] <CrazyLemon> 15854 ? S 0:00 wget -qO /dev/null google.com
[11:24] <CrazyLemon> wth?
[11:24] <CrazyLemon> a tole chrome počne?
[11:25] <dz0ny> zihr sem da ne :)
[11:26] <zdobersek> -qO
[11:26] <upd> rootkit :p
[11:26] <dz0ny> k teče cel process vsandboxu
[11:26] <dz0ny> its unity :>
[11:29] <CrazyLemon> pa sleep 10 vs čas
[11:32] <CrazyLemon> meeeh
[11:32] <CrazyLemon> stupid sysmonitor indicator
[11:32] <CrazyLemon> zihr!
[11:33] <CrazyLemon> upordown_desc=_("It shows whether your internet connection is up or down \
[11:33] <CrazyLemon> - the sensor is refreshed every 10 seconds."),
[11:35] <CrazyLemon> https://github.com/fossfreedom/indicator-sysmonitor/blob/master/sensors.py#L540
[11:35] <Pepelka> indicator-sysmonitor/sensors.py at master · fossfreedom/indicator-sysmonitor · GitHub
[11:35] <Pepelka> »indicator-sysmonitor - Ubuntu application indicator to show various system parameters«
[11:56] <CrazyLemon> https://branitelji.gov.hr/UserDocsImages//OS//MBRH_prirucnik.pdf
[11:56] <CrazyLemon> hrvaška je očitno začela s prehodom!
[11:57] <zdobersek> jah, ce morajo sparat
[11:58] <Matthai> CrazyLemon, kuuul :-)
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> operacijski sustav GNU/Linux, distribucija Xubuntu 14.04, uz grafičko radno
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> okruženje Xfce, prilagođeno potrebama Ministarstva branitelja RH
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> očitno so zamenjali XP za xubuntu
[12:05] <zdobersek> to je obrambno ministrstvo?
[12:07] <CrazyLemon> ne
[12:07] <zdobersek> ministrstvo za veterane?
[12:07] <CrazyLemon> smth like that
[12:08] <zdobersek> kul, tnx CroPoliticsLemon
[12:08] <Matthai> to je v bistvu dober testbed
[12:37] <zdobbie> http://vezjak.com/2015/11/06/danes-zvecer-aktivist-v-tarci-jutri-zjutraj-novinar/
[12:37] <Pepelka> Danes zvečer aktivist v Tarči, jutri zjutraj novinar | ::: IN MEDIA RES :::
[12:37] <Pepelka> »Ob »prijaznem družinskem referendumu« o zakonski zvezi, kot ga skupaj z Alešem Primcem napoveduje Metka Zevnik iz Koalicije Za otroke gre (in Izvršilnega odbora SLS), so ob njej v zadnjo Tarčo pova...«
[12:43] <zdobersek> LOL http://images.24ur.com/media/images/600xX/Apr2015/61587810.jpg
[12:44] <CrazyLemon> ipad man?
[12:45] <zdobersek> ne
[12:45] <zdobersek> apfelstunde
[13:24] <CrazyLemon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC
[13:24] <Pepelka> Unity8inLXC - Ubuntu Wiki
[13:24] <CrazyLemon> če bi se rad kdo igral z unity 8
[13:25] <zdobersek> 140EUR/h
[13:41] <dz0ny> .yt grimes california
[13:42] <dz0ny> .yt grimes california
[13:42] <jabuk> Grimes - new song (Live @ The Echo in Echo Park, Ca 2.24.2012) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwYKl1PA58
[13:42] <dz0ny> .sc grimes california
[13:42] <jabuk> Roll It Up(4 minute) https://soundcloud.com/marty-grimes-music/06-roll-it-up ♥1,620 ▶87,954
[13:42] <dz0ny> nop
[13:43] <slax0r> u suck
[13:43] <zdobersek> gee, no sugarcoating
[13:47] <slax0r> honesty is better than sugar coated bs :P
[13:47] <zdobersek> spot on, you sparkly cunt
[13:49] <CrazyLemon> sam ta zdobersek ni katoliško dete.. preklinja kot mornar je bela cesta
[13:52] <zdobersek> no glitter-shit
[14:49] <CrazyLemon> stupid napajalnik..enga dnem bom kupu novega če bo tko nadaljeval
[14:50] <CrazyLemon> dne*
[14:52] <pitastrudl> kaj se dogaja
[14:53] <CrazyLemon> začel tulit
[14:53] <pitastrudl> coil whining?
[14:53] <pitastrudl> rip
[14:55] <CrazyLemon> dvomim..men se zdi da je sam vent
[14:55] <CrazyLemon> ker zdaj ko sm ga spucal je spet tiho
[14:56] <pitastrudl> might be yeah
[14:56] <pitastrudl> moj včasih coil whina pa grafa isto piska ko je gpu load gor
[14:56] <pitastrudl> but not for long
[14:56] <pitastrudl> soon new pc
[14:56] <pitastrudl> končno SSD
[14:57] <pitastrudl> ko se loginam notri v winse potrebuje kake 5 minut da zažene ene 20 programov
[14:57] <pitastrudl> :-D
[14:57] <CrazyLemon> apu is still going strong.. že 6 let
[14:57] <Sky[x]> revcek :)
[14:57] <pitastrudl> apu?
[14:57] <CrazyLemon> ja.. simpsons character mi laufa znotraj PCja
[14:57] <pitastrudl> i see
[14:57] <Sky[x]> jst mam 4 leta str komp pa se vedno vse lepo dela brez problema :)
[14:57] <pitastrudl> Sky[x] moj pa 7, rip
[15:35] <CrazyLemon> https://twitter.com/mrwillreid/status/662480552914649088
[15:35] <Pepelka> Will Reid auf Twitter: "A storm creeping along Sydneys Eastern suburbs #sydneystorm #shelfcloud https://t.co/R3M6OomxkK"
[15:48] <yang> crazy a ti mas sriracho z rdecim zamaskom
[15:48] <yang> sem narocil eno
[15:48] <CrazyLemon> holy sh1t tale lastpass sux.. ne moreš iskat nič kar je 'lp *'
[15:49] <CrazyLemon> ker te vrže v lastpass search engine
[16:03] <CrazyLemon> https://twitter.com/UID_/status/662371560091701248
[16:03] <Pepelka> Rickey Gevers auf Twitter: "Wauw! ProtonMail paid a ransom of $6000 dollar in bitcoins to their DDoS attackers. https://t.co/WwMJG9uXTo"
[16:32] <upd> ah en ddos bi pa že lahko izsledili
[16:38] <upd> At this point, we were placed under a lot of pressure by third parties to just pay the ransom, which we grudgingly agreed to do at 3:30PM Geneva time to the bitcoin address 1FxHcZzW3z9NRSUnQ9Pcp58ddYaSuN1T2y. This was a collective decision taken by all impacted companies, and while we disagree with it, we nevertheless respected it taking into the consideration the hundreds of thousands of Swiss Francs in damages suffered by other companies caught up in the
[16:38] <upd> attack against us. We hoped that by paying, we could spare the other companies impacted by the attack against us, but the attacks continued nevertheless. This was clearly a wrong decision so let us be clear to all future attackers – ProtonMail will NEVER pay another ransom.
[16:50] <speed-> lol
[16:51] <speed-> moderni pirati :)
[16:51] <speed-> yarr harr
[16:51] <upd> http://www.govcert.admin.ch/blog/14/armada-collective-blackmails-swiss-hosting-providers
[16:51] <Pepelka> Armada Collective blackmails Swiss Hosting Providers
[16:51] <Pepelka> »Armada Collective blackmails Swiss Hosting Providers«
[17:01] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: a to je ricky gervais parody account?
[17:11] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek nope
[17:11] <zdobersek> dayumn
[17:22] <CrazyLemon> https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1207751002573547&id=259963160685674
[17:22] <Pepelka> Cenjene stranke obveščamo da bomo z... - Extreme Vital Shop - Lucija | Facebook
[17:22] <Pepelka> »Cenjene stranke obveščamo da bomo z Ponedeljkom 9,11,2015 pričeli obratovati po zimskem urniku, in sicerPonedeljek-petek: 15,00 do 19,00Sobota :...«
[17:22] <CrazyLemon> to pa je urnik madona! 4h na dan :D
[17:34] <zdobbie> ti so se bolj radikalni k skandinavci
[17:34] <zdobbie> anyway, got m'entertainment
[17:34] <zdobbie> now I have the munchies
[17:43] <Sky[x]> lp
[18:00] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon keepass masterrace
[18:00] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie drugs are bad man
[18:00] <pitastrudl> lol dat work schedule
[18:00] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: passopolis
[18:01] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny wat
[18:01] <CrazyLemon> !g passopolis
[18:01] <Pepelka> Passopolis - manage secrets securely https://passopolis.com/
[18:06] <zdobbie> ass for the keeping
[18:11] <Sky[x]> j
[18:11] <Sky[x]> j
[18:11] <Sky[x]> ej
[18:12] <Sky[x]> a ma to kej veze z https://www.keepassx.org/ ?
[18:13] <zdobbie> looks like a rip-off to me
[18:27] <pitastrudl> Sky[x] nah dont use that
[18:27] <Sky[x]> why?
[18:28] <pitastrudl> old
[18:28] <pitastrudl> 0.4.3 (2010-03-07)
[18:28] <pitastrudl> lol
[18:28] <pitastrudl> KeePass 2.30 released
[18:28] <pitastrudl> 2015-08-09 12:52. Read More »
[18:28] <pitastrudl> :)
[18:30] <matjaz> edini plus keepassx pred keepassom je, da je QT, keepass pa Mono
[18:30] <pitastrudl> ¯\(°_o)/¯
[18:30] <Sky[x]> QT?
[18:30] <pitastrudl> qt3.14
[18:30] <Sky[x]> aja
[18:31] <dz0ny> quicktime
[18:31] <matjaz> :D
[18:31] <Sky[x]> dz0ny: lol :D
[18:32] <pitastrudl> lol
[18:35] <pitastrudl> zdobbie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKHavcFDaSc&index=1&list=FL8BUhvgAYF9EFcUZfQZzX8w
[18:35] <Pepelka> CS:GO - Press Start! - YouTube
[18:35] <Pepelka> »As so many of you enjoyed the previous video, I wanted to make a "sequel" type video as it was super fun to make anyway! Here's a list of all of the players ...«
[18:36] <zdobbie> pitastrudl: kje si?
[18:37] <pitastrudl> zdobbie ni me :(
[18:39] <zdobbie> team solo-rekt
[18:40] <pitastrudl> ikr
[18:43] <zdobbie> pitastrudl: true story https://gyazo.com/8607a286be49335a050446180df57c5e
[18:43] <Pepelka> Gyazo - 8607a286be49335a050446180df57c5e.jpg
[19:04] <dz0ny> .imdb The Man from U.N.C.L.E.
[19:04] <jabuk> Moz iz agencije U.N.C.L.E. (2015) 116 min Action Adventure Comedy
[19:04] <jabuk> Ocena: 7.5/10 (62,492 glasov) MT: 55/100
[19:04] <jabuk> In the early 1960s, CIA agent Napoleon Solo and KGB operative Illya Kuryakin participate in a joint mission against a mysterious criminal organization, which is working to proliferate nuclear weapons.
[19:04] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2578821913/
[19:04] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1638355/
[19:19] <zdobbie> .imdb the trip to italy
[19:19] <jabuk> The Trip to Italy (2014) 108 min Comedy Drama
[19:19] <jabuk> Ocena: 6.6/10 (9,694 glasov) MT: 75/100
[19:19] <jabuk> Two men, six meals in six different places on a road trip around Italy. Liguria, Tuscany, Rome, Amalfi and ending in Capri.
[19:19] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1367256345/
[19:19] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2967006/
[19:19] <zdobbie> hum
[19:19] <zdobbie> .imdb the trip
[19:20] <jabuk> The Trip (2010) 112 min Comedy Drama
[19:20] <jabuk> Ocena: 7/10 (16,388 glasov) MT: 55 user
[19:20] <jabuk> Steve Coogan has been asked by The Observer to tour the country's finest restaurants, but after his girlfriend backs out on him he must take his best friend and source of eternal aggravation, Rob Brydon.
[19:20] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3607534873/
[19:20] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740047/
[19:21] <zdobbie> certified fresh http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_trip_2011/
[19:21] <Pepelka> The Trip (2011) - Rotten Tomatoes
[19:21] <zdobbie> certified fresh http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_trip_to_italy_2014/
[19:21] <Pepelka> »Amiable, funny and sometimes insightful, The Trip works as both a showcase for the enduring chemistry between stars Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon and an unexpected perusal of men entering mid-life crises.«
[19:21] <Pepelka> Viaggio in Italia (2014) - Rotten Tomatoes
[19:21] <zdobbie> feck off lemon
[19:21] <Pepelka> »While perhaps not quite as fresh as Coogan and Brydon's original voyage in The Trip, The Trip to Italy still proves a thoroughly agreeable sequel.«
[19:54] <pitastrudl> pfft, prevozu se baje avto pokvaril, nasreco sem nasel drugega
[19:54] <CrazyLemon> you feck off zdobbie !
[19:54] <pitastrudl> rip
[19:54] <pitastrudl> zdobbie: lel, did it happen
[19:54] <pitastrudl> dz0ny: man from uncle sem gledal
[19:54] <pitastrudl> quite entertaining
[19:54] <pitastrudl> poglej si
[19:55] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl a ti se splača za 1-2€ čakat/upat na druge?
[19:55] <pitastrudl> what
[19:55] <pitastrudl> ?
[19:55] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl a ti se splača za 1-2€ VEČ čakat/upat na druge?
[19:55] <CrazyLemon> oziroma manj!
[19:55] <CrazyLemon> gaddemit!
[19:55] * CrazyLemon is dizzy
[19:56] <CrazyLemon> tko da če ne bo imelo smisla to kar napišem
[19:57] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon: i dont understand
[19:58] <pitastrudl> sej nism vec placal
[19:58] <pitastrudl> nasel sem drugi prevoz, 30min kasneje
[19:58] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl a ni ponavadi prevoz 5€ kao?
[19:58] <pitastrudl> se mu je baje pokvaril tip preden me je prišel iskat
[19:58] <pitastrudl> je ja
[19:58] <pitastrudl> za v lj
[19:58] <pitastrudl> iz kopra
[19:58] <CrazyLemon> no..a ni avtobus do lj 6-7€ ?
[19:59] <pitastrudl> 1
[19:59] <pitastrudl> 9.6€
[19:59] <pitastrudl> pa 2h rabi
[19:59] <pitastrudl> rip
[20:01] <pitastrudl> ಠ_ಠ
[20:02] <CrazyLemon> ahh.. pol je lj - zg 6-7€
[20:14] <CrazyLemon> tale steam mora kupit še kak datacenter v EU..ker hitrost je obupna
[20:15] <speed-> kaj pa vlak od nas v lj
[20:15] <speed-> 5ur :)
[20:15] <CrazyLemon> vi gor itak vozite begunce pa je poceni :p
[20:16] <speed-> ja
[20:16] <speed-> za njih ne :D
[20:20] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: na aws ec2 tečejo strežniki
[20:20] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny but why so slow
[20:20] <CrazyLemon> zalaufa hitrost
[20:20] <CrazyLemon> pol pade na nekaj BYTEOV
[20:20] <CrazyLemon> in čaka..in čaka
[20:20] <CrazyLemon> pa spet zalaufa.. and so on
[20:21] <CrazyLemon> pa nethogs pravi da se nekaj v ozadju prenaša.. steam client pa pravi 0 kBps
[20:31] <Sky[x]> a se kdo mogoc spomne kako se rce storitev za delitev stroskov? imas cimre in mas neko storitev potem da se vsi stroski shranjujejo in avtomatsko razdeli po osebah?
[20:37] <CrazyLemon> čisto povsod sm ustavil download.. ampak mother fcker še vedno v ozadju prenaša z 1MBps
[20:39] <Sky[x]> mene so pa klical iz t2 da je sedaj mozno v bloku tudi t2 wiiii :D
[20:39] <Sky[x]> kater paket se splaca za t2 optiko vzet net+tv ?
[20:40] <CrazyLemon> tisto kar rabiš?
[20:40] <matjaz> CrazyLemon: se ti slučajno Steam client updatea?
[20:40] <CrazyLemon> matjaz nope
[20:46] <CrazyLemon> se kr downloada
[21:03] <CrazyLemon> se vedno na polno downloada
[21:03] <CrazyLemon> ma wtf no
[21:25] <AreYOUaGOODperso> test
[21:25] <AreYOUaGOODperso> ž
[21:26] <CrazyLemon> failed
[21:26] <CrazyLemon> y
[21:26] <AreYOUaGOODperso> živijo, zgleda, da lahko pošiljam sporočila sem, ampak na nekatere kanale ne morem
[21:26] <AreYOUaGOODperso> kako dobim dovoljenje za chat na določenih kanalih?
[21:26] <CrazyLemon> maybe you are not good enough person to chat there!
[21:26] <CrazyLemon> AreYOUaGOODperso verjetno moraš registrirat nick pri nickserv
[21:27] <AreYOUaGOODperso> kako pa to naredim?
[21:27] <CrazyLemon> !g freenode register nick
[21:27] <Pepelka> freenode: frequently-asked questions https://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[21:27] <CrazyLemon> tako ^
[21:27] <AreYOUaGOODperso> hvala
[21:28] <CrazyLemon> https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering tole predvsem
[21:28] <Pepelka> freenode: frequently-asked questions
[21:28] <AreYOUaGOODperso> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER AreYOUaGOODperso tjlsibuibvih
[21:29] <CrazyLemon> ja..to ne bo šlo tko
[21:30] <CrazyLemon> kot prvo..ni presledka pred /msg
[21:30] <AreYOUaGOODperso> aha, ok
[21:30] <AreYOUaGOODperso> thanks
[21:30] <CrazyLemon> kot drugo.. tam piše da mail posreduješ.. js sm pa prepričan da tvoj mail ni tjlsibuibvih
[21:31] <CrazyLemon> pa ne vem kje si dobil/-a VERIFY
[21:38] <matjaz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuQLMXyGQOE
[21:38] <Pepelka> Dubioza kolektiv "Free.mp3 (The Pirate Bay Song)" - YouTube
[21:38] <Pepelka> »Dubioza kolektiv "Free.mp3 (The Pirate Bay Song)", Happy Machine, 2016 Download Happy Machine (EP) for free: http://www.dubioza.org/ Production: Fabrika, Sar...«
[21:38] <matjaz> dober video :)
[21:41] <CrazyLemon> mhm :)
[21:44] <idioterna> a ma se zmer 81 views :)
[21:44] <CrazyLemon> 100k+
[23:42] <jabuk> M 2.4 > 16.km JV od ZGORNJEGA GRUŠKOVJA @07/11/2015 00:33:17 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.17+N,+16+E
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[13:42] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[14:02] <Cryterion> hello Kilos
[14:02] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[19:04] <Kilos> ai!
[19:05] <inetpro> yikes!
[19:05] <Kilos> haha
[19:05] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:05] <inetpro> he broke it?
[19:05] <Kilos> ya
[19:06] <inetpro> Kilos: fixit!
[19:06] <inetpro> you need the original topic?
[19:07] <inetpro> it was:
[19:07] <inetpro> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, Wed, 23 September 2015 18:30 GMT Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:07] <Kilos> i have it but cant edit
[19:07] <Kilos> ChanServ- Channel Kilos is not registered.
[19:07] <Kilos> didnt i used to be registered
[19:07] <inetpro> obviously
[19:08] <inetpro> RTFS
[19:09] <inetpro> Kilos: /msg chanserv topic #ubuntu-africa New Topic
[19:09] <Kilos> /msg chanserv topic #ubuntu-africa
[19:09] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:09] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:09] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015
[19:09] <Kilos> 18:30 GMT Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:10] <Kilos> /msg chanserv topic #ubuntu-africa
[19:10] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:10] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:10] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015
[19:10] <Kilos> 18:30 GMT Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:10] <Kilos> ai!
[19:10] <inetpro> it works for me
[19:11] <Kilos> haha
[19:14] <Kilos> /msg chanserv topic
[19:14] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:14] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:14] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015
[19:14] <Kilos> 18:30 GMT Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:14] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: /msg ChanServ TOPIC <channel> [Topic]
[19:15] <Kilos> in square brackets?
[19:15] <inetpro> NO!!!
[19:15] <Kilos> ai!
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: example: /msg ChanServ TOPIC #ubuntu-za New Topix
[19:16] <Kilos> i did that
[19:16] <Kilos> then i floods
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: example: /msg ChanServ TOPIC #ubuntu-za New Topix all on one long line
[19:17] <inetpro> Kilos: slow down and take a deep breather
[19:18] <inetpro> then type out the example above and just do it
[19:18] <inetpro> \o/
[19:18] <Kilos> words with short topic
[19:19] <Kilos> cant add whole topic
[19:19] <inetpro> Kilos: example: /msg ChanServ TOPIC #ubuntu-za it works with a long topic as well | repeat x3 | it works with a long topic as well | repeat x2 | it works with a long topic as well | repeat x2 | it works with a long topic as well | repeat x2 |
[19:19] <Kilos> ai!
[19:20] <inetpro> or whatever
[19:20] <Kilos> [21:20] [Notice] -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
[19:21] <Kilos> methinks its easier for you to just give me ops
[19:22] <Kilos> i forgot how to do that
[19:22] <inetpro> it works for me
[19:23] <Kilos> use this
[19:23] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:23] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:23] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015 18:30 GMT
[19:23] <Kilos> Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:23] <Kilos> ai!
[19:23] <inetpro> that is 4 lines oom
[19:23] <Kilos> it wasnt in kate
[19:25] <inetpro> press F11 in kate
[19:25] <inetpro> and F10
[19:26] <Kilos> /msg chanserv topic #ubuntu-africa
[19:26] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:26] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:27] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015 18:30 GMT
[19:27] <Kilos> Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:27] <Kilos> ai!
[19:27] <inetpro> now still in kate, join two lines by pressing Ctrl+J
[19:27] <inetpro> now press F10 again to toggle line wrapping on or off while you look at the line numbers on the left
[19:28] <Kilos> no man head too sore to do all that thinking
[19:28] <inetpro> no thinking, just look
[19:28] <inetpro> just do it!
[19:29] <inetpro> step 1: press F11
[19:29] <inetpro> press it multiple times to see what it does
[19:30] <Kilos> oh removes line numbers
[19:30] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:30] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:31] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015 18:30 GMT
[19:31] <Kilos> Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:31] <Kilos> ai!
[19:32] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:32] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:32] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015 18:30 GMT
[19:32] <Kilos> Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:32] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:32] <Kilos> i give up
[19:33] <inetpro> Kilos: the Agenda link is invalid anyway
[19:33] <Kilos> ya
[19:35] <inetpro> so create the new agenda page and then we can change the topic proper
[19:36] <Na3iL> o/
[19:37] <Na3iL> inetpro, is there anything I can help with it?
[19:37] <Kilos> lol
[19:37] <Kilos> drives me crazy
[19:40] <inetpro> Kilos: Na3iL is looking for a job ^ :-)
[19:41] <elacheche> o/
[19:41] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:41] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:41] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015 18:30 GMT
[19:41] <Kilos> Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:41] <Kilos> Na3iL
[19:41] <Na3iL> o/ Kilos elacheche
[19:41] <Kilos> fix the topic for us
[19:41] <Kilos> meeting 25th nov
[19:41] <inetpro> ai!
[19:42] <Kilos> lol
[19:42] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:42] <inetpro> Kilos: only operators can change the topic
[19:42] <elacheche> Kilos: he can't do that! He's not an OP :):
[19:42] <Kilos> nor me
[19:42] <inetpro> Kilos: you can
[19:42] <Na3iL> only who have OP can change topic of the channel
[19:42] <inetpro> you did it earlier
[19:42] <Kilos> i dont have pemission in my own channel
[19:42] <Kilos> sigh
[19:43] <Kilos> you did it before inetpro
[19:43] <elacheche> Kilos: you are an OP
[19:43] <elacheche> 20:43:10 freenode -- | MSG(ChanServ): access #ubuntu-africa list
[19:43] <elacheche> 20:43:10 freenode -- | ChanServ (ChanServ@services.): Entry Nickname/Host Flags
[19:43] <elacheche> 20:43:10 freenode -- | ChanServ (ChanServ@services.): ----- ---------------------- -----
[19:43] <elacheche> 20:43:10 freenode -- | ChanServ (ChanServ@services.): 1 Kilos +AFRefiorstv [modified 39w 2d 3h ago]
[19:43] <elacheche> 20:43:10 freenode -- | ChanServ (ChanServ@services.): 2 inetpro +Aefiorstv [modified 38w 4d 1h ago]
[19:43] <elacheche> 20:43:10 freenode -- | ChanServ (ChanServ@services.): 3 who_da_fly +Aefiorstv [modified 38w 4d 1h ago]
[19:43] <elacheche> 20:43:10 freenode -- | ChanServ (ChanServ@services.): ----- ---------------------- -----
[19:43] <elacheche> 20:43:10 freenode -- | ChanServ (ChanServ@services.): End of #ubuntu-africa FLAGS listing.
[19:43] <elacheche> inetpro: you too
[19:43] <Na3iL> Just type that Kilos /topic #myChannel This is my new Topic !
[19:43] <inetpro> Kilos: you're just doing it wrong, I can change it, but I was hoping that you'll get it right
[19:44] <Kilos> my f10 doenst work like yours
[19:44] <elacheche> inetpro: Let him do it :D :D He can learn how to :) :D
[19:44] <Kilos> elacheche i gonna punch you
[19:44] <Kilos> on the snout
[19:45] <Kilos> so why wont it op me
[19:46] <inetpro> Kilos: first you need to ensure that you type the topic on one long line
[19:46] <elacheche> :D
[19:46] <Kilos> i cant type all that out man
[19:46] <Kilos> i copy paste
[19:47] <inetpro> you can copy and paste... making sure what you copy does not contain a hidden linefeed character
[19:47] <Kilos> thats why the edit function would work for me
[19:47] <Na3iL> +42 inetpro :)
[19:51] <inetpro> Na3iL: that is the answer to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything
[19:51] <Na3iL> Yep inetpro :)
[19:51] <elacheche> inetpro: We have many Tunisian geeks :D ;)
[19:51] <inetpro> haha
[19:53] <Kilos> so something ive done wrong here on the laptop is why chanserv doesnt remember me
[19:54] <Kilos> i have no idea waht
[19:54] <Kilos> what
[19:54] <Kilos> elacheche is the 25th ok?
[19:55] <Na3iL> What ChanServ tells you when you type the command?
[19:55] <Kilos> tlees me to use help
[19:55] <Kilos> tells
[19:55] <inetpro> Kilos: he knows you very well enough... you did change the topic earlier
[19:55] <Kilos> yes
[19:56] <inetpro> do it again, just make it short
[19:56] <Kilos> its just that one line thing im battling with
[19:56] <elacheche> Kilos: Am always in :D :D
[19:56] <inetpro> Kilos: example: /msg ChanServ TOPIC #ubuntu-za New Topix
[19:56] <inetpro> ahh... but please NOTE!!!
[19:57] * inetpro made a mistake
[19:57] <inetpro> Kilos: example: /msg ChanServ TOPIC #ubuntu-africa New Topix
[19:57] <Kilos> ah
[19:57] <inetpro> now do that ^^
[19:57] <inetpro> see the difference?
[19:58] <Kilos> yes caps and TOPIX
[19:58] <inetpro> haha :-)
[19:59] <Kilos> /msg ChanServ TOPIC #ubuntu-africa
[19:59] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[19:59] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[19:59] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015 18:30 GMT
[19:59] <Kilos> Agenda: http://bit.ly/1KO5ulO
[19:59] <Kilos> ai!
[19:59] <inetpro> ai!
[19:59] <Kilos> thats after many f11 and f10's
[20:00] <inetpro> Kilos: make sure what you copy does not contain a hidden linefeed character
[20:00] <Kilos> ok sec
[20:00] <inetpro> F11 and F10 in kate can help you to spot them easily
[20:01] <Kilos> Welcome to #ubuntu-africa | Website: http://ubuntu-africa.info |
[20:01] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-africa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams |
[20:01] <Kilos> Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next meeting: Wed, 25 November 2015 18:30 GMT
[20:01] <Kilos> Agenda:
[20:01] <Kilos> ai!
[20:02] <Kilos> cant make it one line
[20:02] <Kilos> ai ai ai ai ai
[20:02] <inetpro> Kilos: in fact you do not need F10 or F11, just read the status line in kate below the editing part... move your cursor around while you check that
[20:02] <inetpro> it will tell you the Line number and the column number
[20:02] <Kilos> ok
[20:03] <inetpro> bottom left
[20:04] <inetpro> very useful when typing a tweet before copying and pasting to twitter to keep it less than 140 characters
[20:07] <inetpro> Kilos: and now?
[20:07] <Kilos> it says line 1 of 4 and there are no linefeeds
[20:07] <inetpro> haha
[20:07] <Kilos> sigh
[20:07] <inetpro> linefeeds are not visible sir
[20:08] <inetpro> you should have just one line
[20:08] <inetpro> not 4
[20:08] <Kilos> i have stepped through it 1 letter at a time
[20:08] <inetpro> press ENTER multiple times and see what happens
[20:08] <Kilos> even deleted and paste next line at end of last one
[20:09] <inetpro> can you see the linefeeds? no
[20:09] <Kilos> no
[20:09] <inetpro> exactly
[20:09] <inetpro> now start typing any garbage without pressing ENTER
[20:10] <Kilos> i can copy paste second line directly at end of frist line and it goes into a new line
[20:10] <Kilos> sigh
[20:10] <inetpro> more then 100 characters
[20:10] <Kilos> where must i type the grabage
[20:10] <Kilos> garbage
[20:10] <inetpro> in kate
[20:11] <inetpro> press F11 to show line numbers on the left, do you see them?
[20:11] <Kilos> it auto linefeeds
[20:12] <inetpro> exactly, that is called line wrapping
[20:12] <Kilos> it shows more lines
[20:12] <Kilos> 8 now
[20:12] <Kilos> sigh
[20:12] <inetpro> now type something short, then press ENTER, type more, press ENTER
[20:13] <inetpro> go to the beginning of the line and press BACKSPACE
[20:13] <inetpro> can you see how it joins with the previous line?
[20:14] <inetpro> or go to the end of a previous line and press DEL
[20:14] <Kilos> some work some dont
[20:14] <inetpro> BACKSPACE or DEL removes the linefeed character like any other character
[20:14] <Kilos> thats what i been doing with the topic
[20:15] <inetpro> the character is there, you just don't see it
[20:15] <Kilos> thats why i said tthere are no line feeds
[20:15] <Kilos> ill try again tomorrow
[20:15] <Kilos> head exploding
[20:15] <Kilos> grrrrr
[20:15] <inetpro> ai!
[20:16] <Kilos> msg ChanServ TOPIC #ubuntu-africa Sick up and fed
[20:17] <Kilos> ai!
[20:17] <Kilos> thats fed up and sick and tired
[20:18] <inetpro> Kilos: try again tomorrow
[20:18] <Kilos> ya
[20:18] <Kilos> ty for the help
[20:18] <inetpro> you're welcome oom
[20:18] <Kilos> still wish i could op me
[20:19] <inetpro> you'll have the same problems plus more
[20:19] <Kilos> weeeee
[20:20] <inetpro> ai!
[20:21] <Na3iL> \o/ good Kilos
[20:21] <Kilos> see inetpro
[20:21] <Kilos> you always make me battle first
[20:21] <Kilos> haha
[20:21] <Kilos> skelm
[20:22] <inetpro> you'll remember it now
[20:23] <Kilos> i did it with edit mode when i was op
[20:23] <inetpro> don't be lazy
[20:23] <Kilos> your and kates way is hard work
[20:23] <Kilos> im not lazy man im dom
[20:24] <inetpro> haha
[20:24] <Kilos> hehe
[20:24] <Kilos> en slim
[20:24] <inetpro> only you believe that
[20:24] <Kilos> why take the side roads when there is a big freeway
[20:25] <Kilos> elacheche you happy with meeeting date
[20:25] <Kilos> i need to sleep
[20:25] <Kilos> night all
[20:25] * inetpro calling it a day... good night
[20:25] <elacheche> Kilos: am always happy :D
[20:26] <Kilos> hahaha
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.577220
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Cryterion",
"Kilos",
"Na3iL",
"elacheche",
"inetpro"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-africa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-vn
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[06:14] <nameuser_> Chào các sn, cho hỏi có tool nào chuyển file pdf sang doc/odt, không cần phải OCR, dạng hình ảnh tường trang cũng đc.
[06:25] <MrTuxHdb> nameuser_: mơ đi cưng
[06:25] <MrTuxHdb> đã dạng ảnh mà éo OCR thì sao chuyển được
[06:42] <nameuser_> Hix, em có cần ocr đâu
[06:42] <nameuser_> em chỉ xần hình ảnh thôi
[06:43] <nameuser_> Hiện tại em đang làm thủ công theo kiểu đổi từ pdf sang ảnh, rồi insert vào word
[06:44] <nameuser_> mà một đống file, làm thủ công mệt quá
[07:01] <MrTuxHdb> PDF nó có ảnh mà extract ra
[07:01] <MrTuxHdb> huehuehue
[10:54] <vubuntor883> sao diễn đàn mình k thay đổi nhỉ
[10:54] <vubuntor883> theo kiểu diễn đàn kiểu mới ý
[10:54] <vubuntor883> daynhauhoc.com
[10:55] <vubuntor883> thấy nhiều diễn đàn theo kiểu này
[10:55] <vubuntor883> phát triển rất tốt
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.583473
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"MrTuxHdb",
"nameuser_",
"vubuntor883"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-vn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-vn"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[08:41] <sakrecoer_> i seem to always sleep when someone is asking question in #ubuntustudio
[08:42] <sakrecoer_> could we have ubottu give a message after 5-7 minutes of post-question silence?
[08:42] <sakrecoer_> reffering to the list...
[08:43] <sakrecoer_> maybe its hardcore stuff to fix... i'm think chats thats finish with a question mark, if no answer after x minutes, then ubottu say "hi, i'm sexybot, have you try list?"
[08:45] <sakrecoer_> had funky dream btw, this guy had fixed a program that took the gpg sum and the 2 keys to recreate the file. and then we emailed petabytes to eachother :D
[12:05] <zequence> There's already one bot out there with immense powers. They're calling it Google :)
[12:06] <zequence> But, it's a great idea. If it remembers who it has given information in the past, it won't need to repeat itself
[12:07] <zequence> We do have the welcoming text which could be used for that though
[14:26] <sakrecoer_> yes!! those who tend to leave before they get an answer, tend to join the channeljust briefly before asking the quesiton...
[14:26] <sakrecoer_> so wellcoming text would be equal to ubottu AI addition...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.586190
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"sakrecoer_",
"zequence"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntustudio-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-uos-showandtell
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[12:16] <hhh> this is a robot ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.587360
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"hhh"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-uos-showandtell.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-uos-showandtell"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[14:07] <DammitJim> guys, how are things coming along for Fossetcon?
[14:10] <DammitJim> And what is this BSDA Exam?
[14:15] <DammitJim> man, some of the talks that I am interested in are offered late on Friday
[21:26] <mhall119> ahoneybun: can you join http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-Florida-LoCo-Team
[21:27] <ahoneybun> done
[21:28] <mhall119> thanks, do you see a button to schedule an event?
[21:28] <ahoneybun> schedule a meetup
[21:28] <ahoneybun> yeo
[21:32] <ahoneybun> mhall119: http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-Florida-LoCo-Team/events/hrkbmlytpbkb/
[21:32] <mhall119> ahoneybun: cool, no problems setting the event location?
[21:33] <ahoneybun> not that I could tell
[21:33] <ahoneybun> and the place was right
[21:33] <ahoneybun> setting Delray Tech Space in loco.ubuntu.com was the wrong location
[21:36] <mhall119> ahoneybun: thanks, we're the first loco team meetup on http://www.meetup.com/pro/ubuntu/ \o/
[21:36] <ahoneybun> super cool
[21:39] * ahoneybun returns to his super secret project
[21:42] <mhall119> ahoneybun: I've promoted you to co-organizer of the meetup group, that should let you change settings and information for the whole group
[21:46] <ahoneybun> yay
[21:46] <ahoneybun> cool
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.589755
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DammitJim",
"ahoneybun",
"mhall119"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-us-fl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-fl"
}
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2015-11-06-#juju-dev
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[00:02] <lazypower> Is this bit just some spam or have i encountered a bug? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13118294/
[00:02] <davechen1y> lazypower: yeah, that's not an awesome message
[00:02] <davechen1y> it doesn't give a hint _why_ the dependency is unavailable
[00:03] <davechen1y> ie, should you wait, or should you declare defcon 4
[00:04] <lazypower> I just noticed that i dont have a leader in the service pool. Possibly related?
[00:06] <davechen1y> almost certainly
[00:06] <davechen1y> but that log message is shit
[00:06] <davechen1y> please log a bug
[00:19] <mup> Bug #1513667 opened: Better error messaging around uniter failure <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513667>
[00:22] <mup> Bug #1513667 changed: Better error messaging around uniter failure <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513667>
[00:25] <mup> Bug #1513667 opened: Better error messaging around uniter failure <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513667>
[00:40] <mup> Bug #1513671 opened: juju bootstrap fails <local-provider> <network> <wily> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513671>
[00:43] <mup> Bug #1513671 changed: juju bootstrap fails <local-provider> <network> <wily> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513671>
[00:46] <mup> Bug #1513671 opened: juju bootstrap fails <local-provider> <network> <wily> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513671>
[01:20] <menn0> thumper: phew. here's the machine agent symlink improvements: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3082/
[01:21] <thumper> m'kay
[01:21] <menn0> this makes setting the symlink for juju-dumplogs a piece of cake
[01:21] <thumper> just going through the rename branch suggestions you had
[01:24] <thumper> menn0: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3072/
[01:24] * menn0 looks
[01:29] <thumper> menn0: shipit
[01:30] <menn0> thumper: thanks
[01:30] <thumper> np
[01:38] <menn0> thumper: ship it with a bunch more things to change
[02:03] * thumper sighs
[02:03] <thumper> oh FFS
[02:03] <thumper> I feel that this is never ending
[02:04] * thumper looks for a knife so he can finish it all...
[02:14] <natefinch> thumper: have you looked at using gorename? It won't find things to rename, but it should type-safely rename all copies of type/method/etc
[02:15] <thumper> natefinch: that isn't the problem...
[02:15] <thumper> there are many methods with System in the name
[02:15] <thumper> system in docs
[02:15] <thumper> help docs
[02:15] <thumper> variable names
[02:15] <thumper> spewed everywhere
[02:15] <thumper> environment rename will be worse
[02:21] <davechen1y> thumper: tried the vpn
[02:21] <davechen1y> no job
[02:21] <davechen1y> joy
[02:21] <davechen1y> see email, i'm waitin on the ibm contact to fix
[02:21] <thumper> davechen1y: did you try using the name rather than the ip address?
[02:22] <thumper> I think that was in the email thread
[02:25] <davechen1y> i'm using the openconnect strink that popey used
[02:25] <davechen1y> i have no problem conneting to the service
[02:26] <davechen1y> but my credientials expired 5/11/2015
[02:26] <davechen1y> i don't know which timezone that is
[02:26] <davechen1y> but they need to be refreshed and I cannot do that because the interface to do so is behind the vpn
[02:38] <thumper> hazaah
[02:38] <thumper> magical
[02:39] * thumper goes back to smashing his head against the table
[02:47] * thumper sadface
[02:47] <thumper> just came across another intermittent failure in worker/provisioner
[02:47] <davechen1y> thumper: would you care for a break and a chat about the various charm.* types in state ?
[02:48] <menn0> thumper: juju-dumplogs work is done: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3075/diff/#
[02:48] <thumper> sure, two minutes
[02:48] <menn0> this is what you've reviewed + the symlink stuff
[02:48] <menn0> no rush
[02:48] <natefinch> thumper: what's the error you're seeing? I was getting a weird error in provisioner earlier today
[02:49] <natefinch> thumper: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13115387/
[02:49] <thumper> nope, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13121047/
[02:49] <natefinch> hmm
[02:52] <thumper> davechen1y: 1:1 hangout
[02:52] <davechen1y> thumper: yup
[02:52] <davechen1y> just getting my other laptop
[02:54] <davechen1y> return insertAnyCharmOps(&charmDoc{
[02:54] <davechen1y> DocID: curl.String(),
[02:54] <davechen1y> URL: curl,
[03:10] <davechen1y> thumper: oh oh, maybe reflect.DeepEqual will do all the magic we need
[03:10] <davechen1y> gonna run some test
[03:10] <davechen1y> gonna run some tests
[03:11] * thumper feels sad
[03:11] <thumper> we have a method ConnectStream that takes a path and attrs
[03:11] <thumper> and every single test passes nil for the attrs
[03:13] <cherylj> wallyworld: ping?
[03:14] <davechen1y> thumper: if that parameter is 99% unused, especially in the default case
[03:14] <davechen1y> it should be removed
[03:14] <davechen1y> and a second method added for the case that needs the second parameter
[03:14] <thumper> no, real use passes it in
[03:14] <thumper> but our tests don't test
[03:15] <davechen1y> where is the emoji for jaw hitting table
[03:25] <thumper> menn0: looks like I'm implementing the juju/api and apiserver bits for NoTail for debug log just to get the freaking tests passing...
[03:26] <menn0> thumper: well that takes care of the that bug 1390585 then :)
[03:26] <mup> Bug #1390585: juju debug-log and EOF <debug-log> <landscape> <juju-core:Triaged by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1390585>
[03:26] * menn0 assigned the card to thumper and moves it to "in progress" :-p
[03:26] <thumper> \o/
[03:32] <davechen1y> thumper: I have 7 version of juju/charm in my GOPATH
[03:32] <davechen1y> 4 released, 3 unreleased
[03:32] <thumper> \o/
[03:32] <davechen1y> this scares the piss out of me
[03:33] <davechen1y> how did we not manage to insert invalid data into mongo ?
[03:41] <natefinch> did something change with how machine numbers are assigned? I seem to be getting machine 0, 1, 3, 8 (+-1) instead of reliably 0 1 2 3 4
[03:41] <davechen1y> natefinch: yes, they are now assigned exponentially
[03:41] <menn0> natefinch: didn't you change something in this area recently?
[03:42] <natefinch> menn0: yeah, the unit assignment now runs on a worker... but in theory that shouldn't have changed how the machine numbers are assigned. That code is the same, it's just getting run slightly later.
[03:42] <menn0> natefinch: granted, but given the locality of the change...
[03:43] <natefinch> menn0: oh sure, my first assumption was that it was my fault :)
[03:43] <menn0> :0
[03:43] <menn0> :) even
[03:46] * thumper chucks it in for the week
[03:46] <thumper> laters
[04:21] <natefinch> well crap, I suppose I should just revert my unit assigner merge until such a time as I can fix these bugs....
[04:36] <natefinch> gah, what the hell is the magic incantation to tell CI that I'm trying to merge the fix to the blocker?
[04:38] <natefinch> sinzui: don't suppose you're around?
[04:43] <natefinch> wallyworld: you around?
[04:43] <natefinch> or menn0 ?
[04:43] <wallyworld> maybe :-)
[04:44] <natefinch> how the hell do I mark my PR as fixing the blocking bug?
[04:44] <wallyworld> zup?
[04:44] <menn0> natefinch: $$fixes-NNNNNN$$
[04:44] <wallyworld> $$fixes-12345$$
[04:44] <menn0> ha :)
[04:44] <natefinch> I friggin' have that in my first comment...
[04:44] <wallyworld> which pr?
[04:44] <natefinch> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3679
[04:45] <wallyworld> it needs to go in the merge command
[04:45] <wallyworld> not the cover description
[04:45] <menn0> actually, I don't think it has to be in the merge command
[04:45] <wallyworld> sure?
[04:45] <menn0> but it has to be in a comment, not the description
[04:46] <wallyworld> yup
[04:46] <natefinch> dumb
[04:46] <wallyworld> that's what i meant
[04:46] <menn0> yeah, i'm pretty sure you can do fixes-NNNNNNN in one comment and then separately do $$merge$$ later
[04:46] <menn0> $$fixes-NNNNNN$$ is just the most convenient way to do it
[04:49] <natefinch> it would be nice if the error message more clearly indicated how to fix the problem.
[04:51] <natefinch> (and if we checked the description as well :/)
[04:52] <wallyworld> natefinch: Build failed: Does not match ['fixes-1513552'] is not clear enough?
[04:53] <natefinch> wallyworld: no. It doesn't say how to get the PR to merge. It says something does not match something else. There's zero context.
[04:53] <wallyworld> there is a tiny bit of assumed knoweldge there
[04:54] <natefinch> It only takes 30 seconds to write a better error message to avoid confusion. For example, it could say that the string 'fixes-NNN' must be in a comment, not the description.
[04:55] <menn0> natefinch: suggest it to mgz_ and it might happehn
[04:56] <natefinch> Target branch is blocked by a critical bug (http://pad.lv/NNNNN). If this PR would fix that bug, include the string 'fixes-nnnn' in a comment (not the description) on this PR, before using $$merge$$.
[04:57] <natefinch> menn0: will do
[05:09] <natefinch> davechen1y: what is this, java? https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/state/unit.go#L739
[05:11] <natefinch> davechen1y: related: https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/apiserver/client/status.go#L660
[07:57] <frobware> j
[08:18] <davechen1y> natefinch, nailed it
[09:51] <rogpeppe1> wallyworld: ping
[09:59] <voidspace> dimitern: frobware: grabbing coffee, be three minutes
[10:00] <dimitern> omw as well
[10:07] <voidspace> omw
[10:08] <voidspace> dimitern: frobware: gah, firefox misbehaving - having to restart browser
[10:44] <perrito666> wallyworld: still here?
[11:48] <wallyworld> perrito666: hey
[12:46] <wallyworld> rogpeppe1: hi, you rang?
[12:46] <rogpeppe1> wallyworld: hiya
[12:47] <rogpeppe1> wallyworld: yeah, i just discovered that a PR of yours (that I reviewed!) broke stuff, and just wanted to check that you thought the fix was ok: https://github.com/juju/charm/pull/167
[12:47] <wallyworld> oh no, looking
[12:48] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: seriously? I mesed up capitisation?
[12:48] <wallyworld> sigh
[12:48] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: np
[12:48] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: easy to do
[12:48] <wallyworld> ty for fixing
[12:49] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: i'll update the dep for core on monday
[12:50] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: FWIW i recently started on a tool for automatic API compatibility checking. i'll try and move it forward - it would've helped here i think: https://github.com/rogpeppe/apicompat
[12:50] <wallyworld> oh, sounds nice, i'll look
[12:51] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: (that's just a one day spike to see if it was viable so no tests or docs...)
[12:51] <wallyworld> sure :-)
[12:52] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: too tired to look properly now, but on my todo list
[12:54] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: the basic idea is that you write out type info on all the types you're interested in (e.g. all the types that have been serialised/deserialised) to a file; then later you can check that the types are still compatible with what you wrote before
[12:56] <wallyworld> ok
[13:21] <cherylj> frobware: looks like this old bug has now become part of a crit sit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1382556
[13:21] <mup> Bug #1382556: "cannot allocate memory" when running "juju run" <cpe-critsit> <run> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382556>
[13:21] <cherylj> frobware: got anyone who can take a look?
[13:22] <cherylj> alexisb, fyi ^^
[13:24] <frobware> cherylj, I can take a look as my current bug has stalled (broken tests).
[13:26] <cherylj> thanks, frobware
[13:30] <dimitern> fwereade, hey, so it seems you got back online before me :)
[13:31] <fwereade> dimitern, haha, yeah
[14:28] <katco> frobware: hey
[14:28] <frobware> katco, what's up?
[14:28] <katco> frobware: can i move the cards from sapphire's kanban to moonstone's for those bugs?
[14:28] <frobware> katco, please do
[14:28] <katco> frobware: the ones that won't be finished anyway
[14:29] <katco> frobware: perfect, ty!
[14:29] <frobware> dooferlad, if you have chance today could you post links to your scripts for the HA bug, or better yet update the bug to reflect their location
[14:29] <katco> frobware: lol oops, looks like i don't have permissions
[14:29] <frobware> katco, ^^^
[14:30] <katco> frobware: dooferlad: yes, updating the bug would be perfect! ty for creating those
[14:31] <dooferlad> frobware: will do
[14:31] <frobware> katco, just updated your profile on kanban board, care to try again?
[14:32] * katco attempting
[14:32] <katco> frobware: looks like it's working... ty
[14:38] <katco> frobware: am i blind? i can't seem to find more than 1 card for all those bugs
[14:39] <frobware> katco, did you move the HA card?
[14:39] <katco> frobware: yeah, that's the only one i could find
[14:40] <frobware> katco, I'm trying to remember whether they were there this morning (from planning) or they got nuked...
[14:41] <frobware> frobware, as I notice our archive has now been compressed to show 0 cards...
[14:41] <frobware> dimitern, ^^ did you do some cleanup in the kanban board?
[14:42] <katco> frobware: looks like there are some in the archive'd super-card
[14:43] <frobware> katco, I wouldn't dig through our trash - create a new card...
[14:43] <katco> frobware: haha ok
[14:45] <dimitern> frobware, nope, it automatically does that I think after 2 weeks
[14:46] <frobware> dimitern, eco friendly. :)
[14:47] <katco> dimitern: o/ looking forward to seeing you again in dec.
[14:49] <dimitern> katco, hey - yeah, it will be a change of pace for sure :)
[16:01] <mup> Bug #1513671 changed: juju bootstrap fails <local-provider> <network> <wily> <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513671>
[16:41] <natefinch> katco, ericsnow: that last 1 pointer is merging now... made the code review changes eric suggested and will do the IOC stuff in a separate PR.
[16:42] <ericsnow> natefinch: cool
[16:42] <katco> natefinch: but... but! i want to bikeshed more!
[16:54] <fwereade> katco, I am inspecting something that might be a bikeshed right now... trying to figure out whether it's actually a good idea to close watcher Changes chans when the watcher stops
[16:54] <katco> fwereade: ah i think i remember when that came up
[16:55] <fwereade> katco, because I *think* that it's an artifact of the lack of something-like-catacomb
[16:55] <katco> fwereade: wasn't the consensus that it's fine not to close it because the process would be torn down momentarily?
[16:55] <katco> lol
[16:55] <katco> something-like-catacomb
[16:55] <katco> hoenycomb?
[16:55] <katco> paris?
[16:56] <fwereade> katco, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3079/ ;p
[16:56] <fwereade> katco, so I think the forces are
[16:56] <katco> oh catacomb is actually a thing
[16:57] <fwereade> katco, when using a watcher you generally start it, defer a stop, and then select on changes forever
[16:57] <fwereade> katco, and so your only (heh) channel for notification of watcher problems is the changes chan
[16:58] <fwereade> katco, and closing it seems, eh, nice and idiomatic because then you could range over it, and it means "you're not getting any more values" so it seems to fit perfectly
[16:58] <fwereade> katco, and so we can make the select loop aware of problems
[16:58] <fwereade> katco, and then every select needs to check for that condition
[16:59] <fwereade> katco, and `if !ok { return watcher.EnsureErr(w) }`
[17:00] <katco> fwereade: this idea seems very good... reading through code
[17:00] <fwereade> katco, but I think the flaw is basically: just because you *can* use the changes chan for that notification does not mean you *shoul*
[17:01] <fwereade> katco, so, with something like catacomb, if you bind the watcher's lifetime to the containing worker's and the worker's life to the watcher's lack of failure
[17:01] <fwereade> katco, you'll get the something-is-wrong notifications direct to the Dying chan
[17:02] <fwereade> katco, and the worker's tomb will actually have been hit with (something much more likely to be) the *first* error encountered in that goroutine tree
[17:02] <katco> yeah... on the surface i really like the idea of encapsulating that coupling in a codified type
[17:03] <fwereade> katco, another thing that I like is that it means we don't have to `defer watcher.Stop(`
[17:03] <katco> fwereade: it removes some of the discipline required to get watchers right
[17:03] <fwereade> katco, which I have just realised is almost always subtly wrong
[17:04] <fwereade> katco, because when the loop errors out and then a watcher fails for boring reasons, the watcher faillure hits the worker's tomb first
[17:04] <katco> fwereade: re: doc comment; i wouldn't worry about # of goroutines
[17:04] <katco> fwereade: i doubt we could spawn enough for it to really matter
[17:05] <fwereade> katco, well, it is a fundamental difference -- a catacomb needs its own lifetime management
[17:05] <fwereade> katco, once you New() you're responsible for it
[17:05] <fwereade> katco, but maybe it's not important at that point in the doc
[17:11] <natefinch> fwereade: you need to move the core worker code into its own repo, so that catacomb can live in its own repo... we gotta stop hiding all this good code deep in the juju internals
[17:12] * fwereade blushes
[17:12] <fwereade> natefinch, but, yeah, there is a chunk of worker-related functionality that's starting to want to move into its own repo
[17:13] <natefinch> fwereade: I think the quality of code goes up when we decide we want to be able to share it with the entire world, rather than keeping it buried in juju somewhere.
[17:16] <fwereade> natefinch, yeah, could well be
[17:16] <fwereade> natefinch, and this + dependency.Engine should go nicely together
[17:17] <natefinch> fwereade: yeah, all our really generic code like worker, dependency engine, catacomb, etc. I think would be valuable to share with people. Who knows, we might even get PRs against them (I know I have with some of my repos)
[17:17] <fwereade> natefinch, although it's also seeming a bit like catcomb wants/ought to do error-ranking like dependency engine (and worker.Runner) do
[17:17] <fwereade> natefinch, so I'm suspicious that I haven't got stable enough interfaces
[17:18] <natefinch> I think putting it in its own repo helps with that, too. Easy to show to people, easy to view the godoc on godoc.org, forces you to write better documentation, include a readme, etc.
[17:18] <fwereade> natefinch, on the one hand, that increases the resistance to putting it in its own repo; on the other, that's no goddamn excuse really, is it ;)
[17:19] <natefinch> you can certainly put a disclaimer at the top that says it's still in flux. I did that for https://github.com/juju/deputy
[17:20] <fwereade> natefinch, yeah... but, sorry, gtg, bbiab I hope?
[17:20] <natefinch> ..which, hey, has a PR against it :)
[17:20] <fwereade> nice :D
[17:20] <natefinch> fwereade: kk
[17:20] <katco> fwereade: ty
[17:21] <natefinch> gah
[17:22] <natefinch> I can't merge PRs under github.com/juju anymore :/
[17:23] <natefinch> katco: can you give me write access to github.com/juju/deputy so I can merge PRs to it?
[17:25] <katco> natefinch: done
[17:28] <natefinch> katco: thanks!
[17:36] <jcastro> can a core dev give a nice answer to this one? http://askubuntu.com/questions/693689/juju-charms-rest-api
[17:47] <mgz_> natefinch: can we just set access on juju/deputy to the hackers group? or does it need to be just you?
[17:49] <katco> mgz_: i almost did the hackers group, but wanted to ask you first
[17:50] <mgz_> katco: we gernally have either that or bots - if the project has a good test suite we can make it gated and use bots, otherwise hackers means the magic erge button appears for all of us
[17:51] <cherylj> hey evilnick__ , someone pointed out to me today that the command usage statements on this page all have "no-highlight" in front of them: https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/commands
[17:51] <katco> mgz_: i could go either way
[17:54] <evilnick__> cherylj, ah yes, thanks for pointing it out - that is a bug in the rendering of the site. After a new release, the page gets automatically regenerated and in this case, it hasn't been patched to fix the problem. I will take care of it.
[17:55] <cherylj> thanks, evilnick__ !
[17:57] <katco> cherylj: are we going to do a 1.24.8?
[17:59] <cherylj> katco: that is the $64,000 question
[17:59] <katco> cherylj: i'm going to mark the milestone as inactive. we can always turn it back on
[17:59] <cherylj> I think we'd like to avoid it, since we're going to try and get 1.25 back into trusty
[18:14] <dimitern> cherylj, in that line of thought, I've just proposed the fix for bug 1483879
[18:14] <mup> Bug #1483879: MAAS provider: terminate-machine --force or destroy-environment don't DHCP release container IPs <bug-squad> <destroy-machine> <landscape> <maas-provider>
<juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by dimitern> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483879>
[18:16] <cherylj> awesome, thanks dimitern
[18:16] <cherylj> I'll take a look this afternoon
[18:16] <dimitern> frobware, ^^
[18:17] <dimitern> cherylj, sure, I'd appreciate it - it's a bit quick-and-dirty in a few places, because I really want to get it out the door (1.24.8 will be the last 1.24 I hope), it should be tested better for 1.25/master
[18:29] <cmars> jcastro, i don't have a working stackexchange account, but this would probably be helpful: https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/doc/api.txt
[18:29] <cmars> jcastro, short of a nice library for accessing the api, which we don't have yet
[18:31] <mgz_> cmars: you can sso using lp, no?
[18:32] <cmars> mgz_, oh, maybe so, there's a lp for this one, isn't there. ok
[18:33] <mgz_> well, anything that just needs an open id endpoint like stack overflow etc you can just paste your lp user page
[18:35] <natefinch> mgz_, katco: I'm fine with using the bot. deputy has 94% test coverage.
[18:35] <cmars> mgz_, got it. ok, i'll answer it :)
[18:54] <wwitzel3> natefinch, katco, ericsnow: ping
[18:54] <katco> wwitzel3: hey
[18:58] <katco> wwitzel3: tried to bootstrap lxd and got an error on the unix socket. controller machine is started. what am i doing wrong?
[19:01] <wwitzel3> katco: that's odd
[19:02] <wwitzel3> katco: what is the head of your lxd-branch?
[19:02] <katco> wwitzel3: 0a01db9
[19:03] <katco> oh jees
[19:03] <katco> that's what's wrong
[19:03] <katco> 3 weeks ago
[19:03] <katco> i must not have pulled
[19:03] <wwitzel3> lol
[19:03] <katco> there we go... this should be a lot better
[19:04] <katco> this provider is so nice
[19:04] <katco> no mongo on my host ^.^
[19:04] <wwitzel3> I uninstalled mongo
[19:04] <wwitzel3> completely, it is great
[19:04] <katco> i recently switched machines and never installed juju-local
[19:04] <katco> it's beautiful
[19:06] <natefinch> don't you need mongo to run the tests?
[19:07] <katco> natefinch: i don't typically run all the tests, just the ones around what i'm working on
[19:07] <katco> natefinch: so far, hasn't been a problem, but i'm atypical
[19:10] <mup> Bug #1513552 changed: master cannot deploy charms <blocker> <charm> <ci> <deploy> <regression> <juju-core:Fix Released by natefinch> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513552>
[19:13] <natefinch> ericsnow, katco: is the bot supposed to work on the lxd-provider branch?
[19:13] <katco> natefinch: yeah
[19:13] <ericsnow> natefinch: yes, but it won't run our tests (runs Go 1.2)
[19:13] <natefinch> ericsnow: right
[19:14] <ericsnow> natefinch: so we have some failing tests that got merged
[19:15] <natefinch> ericsnow: ahh, I see the problem, I forgot to mark my test file as go1.3
[19:27] <katco> ericsnow: natefinch: wwitzel3: you all ready to do the demos?
[19:27] <ericsnow> katco: yep
[19:28] <wwitzel3> katco: yep
[19:28] <natefinch> yep
[22:02] <natefinch> katco: can you make that juju/version repo and give juju-hackers write access to it?
[22:02] <katco> natefinch: sec, in a hangout debugging a charm
[22:02] <natefinch> katco: no rush, just wanted to be able to work on that later on tonight...
[22:11] <perrito666> natefinch: see you have killer friday nights
[22:29] <mup> Bug #1513982 opened: Juju can't find daily image streams from cloud-images.ubuntu.com/daily <streams> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513982>
[22:30] <jog> ericsnow, I just opened bug 1513982, it may be a dup of 1287949 but I'd like input from someone else, are you able to look it over?
[22:30] <mup> Bug #1513982: Juju can't find daily image streams from cloud-images.ubuntu.com/daily <streams> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513982>
[22:32] <perrito666> k EOD
[22:32] <perrito666> EOW
[22:32] <perrito666> game set match :p cheers
[22:33] <ericsnow> jog: it could be related to metadata signing; I seem to recall Sergey mentioning something about this
[22:34] <ericsnow> jog: this is vsphere-specific, right?
[22:35] <jog> yes... I'm trying to test an updated OVA for use by vsphere, that utlemming has pushed into daily
[22:46] <ericsnow> jog: yep, I'm pretty sure Sergey had a work-around that he used when manually testing the provider
[22:47] <ericsnow> jog: if I remember right, it involved commenting out some line of code somewhere to disable that signed image check
[22:49] <jog> I'll subscribe him to the bug and see if he can give some guidance. Although I was able to test this image when I used a locally hosted image stream and set image-metadata-url
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[18:30] <DoctorD90> hello! i think i found out a little issue in main website :)
[18:32] <DoctorD90> on page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[18:33] <DoctorD90> is described that to put an iso on an usb it is needed to convert in img. Belong to my knowledge, using dd, isnt important to convert in img before do that. so, the step of convert isnt so relevant, and may produce only confusions in user....deleting it, guide will be simplified!
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-touch
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[07:26] <khod> anyone else have an issue adding a kit for the phone and it wont play, desktop still plays fine but nothing not even an error on the phone kit
[07:27] <khod> the phone does play if it is built on just a phone kit
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[07:54] <guest123124> oh boy... i can't turn on the phone :/ had at least 60% left before going to sleep
[07:56] <guest123124> yep 0% battery. wtf.. is there a way to see what process destroyed the battery overnight?
[08:33] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-06-083113.png
[08:33] <popey> getting catastrophic battery loss overnight here
[08:33] <popey> looks like mediascanner is looping
[08:34] <popey> restarting every second
[08:42] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediascanner2/+bug/1513756
[08:58] <jibel> I've seen the same error in another report last week.
[08:59] <jibel> I cannot find the bug
[09:01] <jibel> bug 1508873
[09:02] <jibel> according to tafari's logs, it restarts 3 times per second
[09:02] <Guest42341> so guys... is there a way to detect runaway processes and eventually throttle or kill the process?
[09:02] <Guest42341> sometime mediascanner has a tendency to eat all the battery
[09:11] <popey> Guest42341, we used to have a thing which kinda did that, but it was overzealous
[09:11] <popey> Guest42341, it would detect a process doing this respawn thing, and then reboot the phone
[09:12] <popey> which could get you into a reboot loop, so we removed that
[09:12] <popey> need a more clever way to say "this thing is doing bad stuff"
[09:12] <popey> also, this only affects our stuff really, because these things are unconfined, running as system background jobs, so it's _our_ responsibility to fix them
[09:12] <Guest42341> popey, yep and maybe only apply to known bad processes :D
[09:12] <popey> hah
[09:12] <Guest42341> like mediascanner
[09:13] <popey> if we have something "known bad" then we need to fix it, not mark it "known bad" :)
[09:13] <Guest42341> yes but in the meantime :D just kill it
[09:13] <Guest42341> with fire :D
[09:13] <popey> from orbit
[09:13] <Guest42341> :D
[09:41] <slvn_> Hello ! I got a question
[09:42] <slvn_> I have a tablet Nexus 10. I used to be able to flash it with Ubuntu-Touch
[09:42] <slvn_> Does it still work with the latest version of ubuntu ?
[09:43] <slvn_> I have 10 games ported to ubuntu touch, but I have not device to test them
[09:43] <slvn_> it used to be working 1 year ago ...
[09:44] <mcphail> slvn_: I don't think it does. As far as I know, the only supported tablet just now is the 2013 Nexus 7
[09:47] <mcphail> Guest42341: not sure the overnight battery "drain" issue is definitely mediascanner. There is the added complication that Ubuntu can think there is 60% charge when the phone thinks there is 0% charge. I've been bitten by that one
[09:49] <slvn_> mcphail, ok it's a pity... Why isn't there any "generic" image that could be flash to "any" device ... At least for developers.. We don't need alls apps but only the "base" to test our apps !
[09:50] <mcphail> slvn_: I suspect it is a case of there not being an interested dev who owns a Nexus 10 to test and maintain the image
[09:51] <mcphail> slvn_: also, I don't know what performance is like on the 10. The 2012 Nexus 7 was dropped because it wasn't up to the job
[09:54] <slvn_> mcphail, I am interesting the Nexus 10 .... I have also a Nexus 7 2012. The Nexus 10 is fast (there is even an un-official image of android 6 running which works great). But the nexus 7 2012 is very bad (I heard of a hardware issue : memory become very slow with the age, so the tablet became almost unsuable.
[09:55] <slvn_> it's a pity. one year ago I ported my 10 games to ubuntu-touch. I tested them with my Nexus 10 but I was waiting for some new feature of ubuntu-touch (Orientation branch). Now I have time to test again but the Nexus 10 is not supported ....
[09:56] <mcphail> slvn_: *please* get a supported device. We need as many devs as possible :)
[09:58] <mcphail> slvn_: it is possible to fix orientation now, so your games may be good to go. I can help to test on my phone, if you want
[10:00] <slvn_> mcphail, that's would be great :)
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Nachos Day! 😃
[11:01] <faenil_> is there a recommended way to attach videos to bugs on LP?
[11:01] <faenil_> like, hosting service etc
[11:05] <faenil> popey maybe ^
[11:05] <popey> not really. I tend to upload mine to youtube and mark them 'unlisted'
[11:05] <popey> so they don't show in my feed, but you can click them from the bug
[11:06] <faenil> oki
[11:06] <faenil> popey: thanks
[11:06] <popey> np
[11:07] <faenil> we should really have a default flow defined for that
[11:07] <popey> heh
[11:07] <popey> you _can_ upload your mp4 to launchpad, if you want
[11:08] <faenil> popey: will anyone kick me for wasting disk space though? :D
[11:08] <popey> unlikely, we have way more crap cluttering up the place than a little video from you
[11:08] <faenil> haha
[11:08] <popey> assuming you're not uploading all the Lord Of The Rings trilogy directors cut in full HD?
[11:08] <faenil> lol
[11:09] <popey> :)
[11:09] <popey> I put it on youtube because people can stream, and not have to download the whole thing to watch maybe only the first 30 seconds they're interested in
[11:10] <popey> and because I don't trust my browser not to crap out when uploading large files to launchpad
[11:13] <faenil> hehe
[11:29] <JPT223> Hi, I am trying to port Ubuntu Touch to Galaxy Tab 3 7" SM-T210. I already merged inofficial CM11 sources and ubuntu-touch sources as explained in the tutorial. After explicitely adding vendor/marvell to main.mk my build fails with a problem in checkpolicy:
[11:29] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy: policy configuration loaded
[11:29] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy: writing binary representation (version 26) to [...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/obj/ETC/sepolicy_intermediates/sepolicy
[11:29] <JPT223> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:29] <JPT223> File "build/tools/pull-lp-bin.py", line 100, in <module>
[11:29] <JPT223> main()
[11:29] <JPT223> File "build/tools/pull-lp-bin.py", line 52, in main
[11:29] <JPT223> cachedir, version="devel")
[11:29] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/launchpadlib/launchpad.py", line 378, in login_anonymously
[11:30] <JPT223> version=version)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/launchpadlib/launchpad.py", line 203, in __init__
[11:30] <JPT223> credentials, service_root, cache, timeout, proxy_info, version)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/resource.py", line 488, in __init__
[11:30] <JPT223> self._wadl = self._browser.get_wadl_application(self._root_uri)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/_browser.py", line 444, in get_wadl_application
[11:30] <JPT223> response, content = self._request(url, media_type=wadl_type)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/_browser.py", line 387, in _request
[11:30] <JPT223> str(url), method=method, body=data, headers=headers)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/_browser.py", line 357, in _request_and_retry
[11:30] <JPT223> url, method=method, body=body, headers=headers)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1562, in request
[11:30] <JPT223> (response, new_content) = self._request(conn, authority, uri, request_uri, method, body, headers, redirections, cachekey)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/launchpadlib/launchpad.py", line 131, in _request
[11:30] <JPT223> LaunchpadOAuthAwareHttp, self)._request(*args)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/_browser.py", line 183, in _request
[11:30] <JPT223> redirections, cachekey)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1334, in _request
[11:30] <JPT223> (response, content) = self._conn_request(conn, request_uri, method, body, headers)
[11:30] <JPT223> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1262, in _conn_request
[11:30] <JPT223> raise ServerNotFoundError("Unable to find the server at %s" % conn.host)
[11:30] <JPT223> httplib2.ServerNotFoundError: Unable to find the server at api.launchpad.net
[11:30] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy: loading policy configuration from [...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/obj/ETC/sepolicy_intermediates/policy.conf.dontaudit
[11:30] <JPT223> build/core/tasks/kernel.mk:167: recipe for target '[...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/ubuntu/kernel/vmlinuz' failed
[11:30] <JPT223> make: *** [[...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/ubuntu/kernel/vmlinuz] Error 1
[11:30] <JPT223> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[11:30] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy: policy configuration loaded
[11:31] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy: writing binary representation (version 26) to [...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/obj/ETC/sepolicy_intermediates//sepolicy.dontaudit
[11:31] <JPT223> system/core/init/builtins.c: In function 'do_setsebool':
[11:31] <JPT223> system/core/init/builtins.c:817:12: warning: assignment discards 'const' qualifier from pointer target type [enabled by default]
[11:31] <JPT223> system/core/init/init.c: In function 'main':
[11:31] <JPT223> system/core/init/init.c:1022:17: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type [enabled by default]
[11:31] <JPT223> I cannot find the source of this policy-file. And I cannot find out what exactly is wrong with it.
[11:31] <JPT223> Could you give a hint please?
[11:31] <popey> argh!
[11:32] <popey> (next time use a pastebin please)
[11:32] <JPT223> ok, sorry
[11:54] <JPT223> Ok, I'm such an idiot. My DSL router was broken down and the build process tried to go online. o.O
[12:28] <gigirock> i'm totaly new about porting, but i cannot understand if the 'base' of porting is still cyanogenmod or not.....
[12:37] <gigirock> if i read the last guideline there is no connection about cyanogenmod and ubuphone , but all the people involvedi in porting and develop still talking about cm11 or similar
[12:56] <mcphail> popey: your battery graph looks even worse than mine...
[12:56] <popey> Good isn't it? :)
[12:56] <mcphail> :)
[13:18] <jgdx> pmcgowan, hey, are you able to test my call forwarding silo today?
[13:21] <pmcgowan> jgdx, I could but I think we decided att didnt support it properly?
[13:22] <jgdx> pmcgowan, no, you identified some real issues which I have tried to addressed, and marked it crit for ota8 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1478049/comments/8
[13:22] <jgdx> s/adressed/address
[13:22] <pmcgowan> jgdx, sure
[13:22] <pmcgowan> let me know
[13:23] <jgdx> pmcgowan, thanks. I will (~1 hour).
[13:31] * popey hugs bregma
[13:48] <jgdx> pmcgowan, okay, silo 19 is good to go!
[13:53] <pmcgowan> jgdx, got a pointer to the bug
[13:53] <pmcgowan> to remind myself
[13:53] <jgdx> pmcgowan, bug 1478049
[13:54] <Vincrop> hi!
[13:55] <pmcgowan> jgdx, ca you attach the mr to that?
[13:55] <pmcgowan> in the meantime loading it
[13:55] <jgdx> pmcgowan, woops, yes
[13:57] <pmcgowan> jgdx, so first time in the phone panel shows nothing, then after entering call forwarding it shows "Some calls"
[13:57] <pmcgowan> it still feels a bit weird
[13:58] <pmcgowan> I guess nothing is better than off
[13:58] <jgdx> pmcgowan, yeah, but it's pr design. It's meant to prevent the call forwarding settings being queried just by opening the Phone panel...
[14:00] <pmcgowan> setting all calls worked
[14:00] <pmcgowan> jgdx, so seems ok if thats per design
[14:00] <pmcgowan> jgdx, ooops
[14:00] * jgdx freezes
[14:00] <pmcgowan> jgdx, so it doesn't remember the previous numbers that were set?
[14:01] <pmcgowan> I unchecked all calls and checked one of the options
[14:01] <pmcgowan> I expect it to remember that number
[14:01] <pmcgowan> which I know dont remember
[14:03] <jgdx> pmcgowan, no, we don't.
[14:04] <jgdx> I can file a bug for that. What's the use case?
[14:04] <jgdx> a suggestion of the previously used number for any call forwarding?
[14:04] <pmcgowan> jgdx, I want to temporarily forward all calls then go back to the normal setup
[14:04] <pmcgowan> so I want it to remember that number which is usually the message service
[14:05] <pmcgowan> and its a number I dont know since the carrier assigns it
[14:05] <jgdx> pmcgowan, if you have "forward when busy" set, then setting "all calls", unsetting "all calls" should restore "forward when busy". It doesn't, is that what you're saying?
[14:05] <pmcgowan> righ tit doesnt
[14:05] <pmcgowan> wen I select it I need to enter the phone number
[14:06] <pmcgowan> jgdx, even if it doesnt reset the other 3 options, when I select them it should have the previous number
[14:06] <jgdx> right..
[14:14] <jgdx> pmcgowan, bug 1513848 filed
[14:15] <pmcgowan> jgdx, vg
[14:15] <pmcgowan> except now my phone is borked :(
[14:15] <jgdx> pmcgowan, because of call forwarding?
[14:16] <pmcgowan> jgdx, yeah now when I dont answer it wont go to voicemail I assume
[14:16] <pmcgowan> I need to go find the number
[14:16] <jgdx> pmcgowan, could you do /usr/share/ofono/script/list-modems ?
[14:16] <pmcgowan> jgdx, its just a test phone ;)
[14:16] <jgdx> :)
[14:16] <jgdx> pmcgowan, and PM me the output, or use the -p option
[14:22] <faenil> awe: it seems you were reading my mind :)
[14:22] <faenil> (or I was reading yours :D)
[14:24] <awe> faenil, re:?
[14:24] <faenil> awe: propertieschanged bug
[14:24] <faenil> awe: I've posted multiple videos with location services disabled
[14:25] <awe> posted to where? youtube?
[14:25] <awe> ;)-
[14:26] <faenil> awe: yes ;)
[14:27] <faenil> (Unlisted)
[14:27] <awe> and your point being? re: the videos?
[14:27] <awe> do you agree with my analysis that this is caused by location services?
[14:27] <awe> sorry, I'm juggling a bunch of things atm ( and just started my day too )
[14:28] <faenil> awe: I left my comments in the bug thread, but I'll sum up here
[14:28] <awe> lemme just re-read
[14:28] <JPT223> I have a beginner question about porting: should my device (device/samsung/lt02wifi) appear in the lunch target list?
[14:29] <faenil> awe: disabling slpjwd makes a lot of diff, posclientd makes some diff...still, after disabling all the services, there's still 1 sec freeze (well, instead of 7-8-9secs, yeah)
[14:29] <awe> it's more like 1/2s
[14:29] <awe> or less
[14:29] <awe> but yea, it's still there...
[14:30] <awe> I think in general, our dbus hygiene is pretty bad
[14:30] <awe> the tool I used to find the offending processes flags poor DBus usage
[14:30] <awe> and although loc-services appears to be the worst offender
[14:30] <awe> there's other code that could be cleaned up
[14:33] <faenil> awe: I see..
[14:33] <faenil> awe: I'm not sure I got your comment on the bug thread though, is there anything else you want me to try?
[14:34] <awe> nope
[14:34] <faenil> awe: ok, cool!
[14:35] <awe> at this point, we have a pretty major flaw identified, and now we have to attempt to get it fixed... more dbus hygiene/cleanup hopefully to follow... but outside the scope of this bug
[14:37] <faenil> awe: though it still happens when the wifi scan happens, why would that be outside of the scope of the bug?
[14:37] <ahayzen> Hi, has anyone else noticed that whatever is the 'latest' version of a click package is used after a reboot? So if i install a version of an app lower than the one that is preinstalled/currently installed, if i then reboot my device it switches to the preinstalled/higher version rather than staying on the one i explicitly installed.
[14:37] <abeato> ahayzen, I had noticed that too :)
[14:38] <ahayzen> :-)
[14:38] <ahayzen> abeato, bet you noticed that when testing the music-app with bgplaylists ;-)
[14:38] <abeato> ahayzen, hehe, indeed
[14:39] * ahayzen wonders if there is an existing bug report for this
[14:40] <awe> faenil, because if we've tuned every bit associated with NM traffic on the bus, there's not much else to do but tackle all the other facets that effect bus performance
[14:41] <awe> that said, I'll work with the product team to figure out the right way to handle moving fwd...
[14:41] <faenil> awe: yeah, that's ok, your job is done, that doesn't mean we need another bug, does it? just more project affected by the same issue
[14:42] <faenil> awe: cool, thanks
[14:42] <awe> faenil, it'll be up to the product team to determine that...
[14:42] <awe> np
[14:42] <faenil> I'd keep the same bug and tag X as affected project (once we know X)
[14:42] <faenil> awe: alright ;)
[14:51] <guest123124> what's the difference between ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en and ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en-proposed ?
[14:51] <ahayzen> abeato, can you confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1513860 ?
[14:52] <abeato> ahayzen, yep, great that you opened it
[14:59] <cwayne_> mariogrip: ping!
[15:18] <mariogrip> cwayne_: pong!
[15:19] <cwayne_> mariogrip: so somethin' i noticed, the ubports device page is missing GPS in the 'whats working/not working' section
[15:21] <mariogrip> cwayne_: oh, thanks I'll fix it
[15:22] <cwayne_> mariogrip: and so I imagine GPS isn't working on OPO yet right?
[15:27] <jgdx> abeato, hey, how do we get bug 1466095 on the ofono backlog?
[15:28] <abeato> jgdx, I'll add it
[15:28] <jgdx> abeato, thanks!
[15:28] <abeato> np
[15:30] <jgdx> pmcgowan, hey, the case where you apparantly lose some call forwarding settings is that ^ ofono bug.
[15:30] <pmcgowan> jgdx, but do we really lose the settings?
[15:30] <pmcgowan> I actually wonder if its properly changing them at all
[15:32] <jgdx> pmcgowan, from the point of view of System Settings, the settings are lost when you activate “forward all”.
[15:32] <jgdx> the bug here is that when ofono restores the settings, when you unset “forward all”, no events are emitted by ofono…
[15:37] <popey> mariogrip, ordered a OPX yet? :)
[15:40] <jgdx> seb128, it's https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1478049/+merge/276789
[15:40] <seb128> jgdx, looking
[15:40] <jgdx> seb128, thanks..
[16:07] <vishnudev_> hello guys
[16:08] <vishnudev_> I was trying to port ubuntu touch to nexus 6
[16:08] <vishnudev_> will the modified kernel boot for android?
[17:14] <Guest42341> there is something wrong with arale r157
[17:29] <seb128> jgdx, is the "cache for one hour" explained somewhere? and do we still have a spec of that?
[17:29] <seb128> the wiki has been replaced by a google doc
[17:30] <seb128> but I click on th" call forwarding" entry on the top it doesn't open anything
[17:30] <seb128> mpt, ^
[17:41] <decebal> hello all
[17:41] <decebal> Does anyone have a Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Edition cell phone
[17:41] <decebal> thoughts, like, dislikes?
[17:49] <khod> Kenvandine is there an easy way to keep the birdy from flying i just want him to jump. Ive been looking over box2d which i see in your documentation is part of bacon2d.
[17:52] <kenvandine> khod, sure
[18:04] <mpt> seb128, unfortunately my paste of the settings spec into the Phone app spec isn’t approved yet. In the meantime, you can still read it at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp?action=recall&rev=21>.
[18:09] <khod> Good ill keep looking through the box2d stuff an see what i need to change
[18:10] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[18:31] <mcphail> popey: is bschaefer still working on SDL2/Mir?
[18:31] <popey> I don't know.
[18:32] <popey> he's in -mir
[18:32] <mcphail> Ta
[18:32] <bschaefer> im here as well :)
[18:32] <bschaefer> mcphail, https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/libsdl/update-mir-new-abi-api/+merge/276578
[18:34] <popey> oh hai!
[18:54] <bfiller> popey: when you get a moment, if you could review the latest camera app in the store
[18:55] <popey> bfiller, done
[19:05] <bfiller> popey: cheers
[19:05] <popey> np
[19:45] <amberdickey> where can I find Ubuntu-Touch to download for my phone?
[19:54] <dobey> !devices | amberdickey
[19:58] <mterry> zbenjamin, you around? I'm having a problem with the new-style ubuntu-sdk-ide on wily
[20:20] <slvn_> hi !
[20:20] <slvn_> I need some help with cross compilation
[20:21] <slvn_> I have a partial chroot vivid
[20:21] <slvn_> I would like to add a ppa over this partial chroot
[20:21] <slvn_> the ppa is https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+index
[20:21] <slvn_> how should i do that ?
[20:25] <jgdx> seb128, it's arbitrary. The spec calls for the summary to expire at every reboot? I'd love suggestions on how to fix that.
[20:36] <popey> slvn_, you can just add a line in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/overlay.list containing the relavent deb line from the ppa?
[20:37] <popey> # cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extra-ppas.list
[20:37] <popey> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu vivid main
[20:37] <popey> ^ like that
[20:37] * ogra_ doubts that works since you need the gpg key too
[20:39] <slvn_> popey, I am not sure of all this stuff. /etc/apt is for my computer, but I want to put the ppa on top of a partial-chroot
[20:39] <slvn_> I use the script of mir, setup-partial-chroot
[20:39] <popey> thats in my chroot
[20:39] <ogra_> so you use etc/apt/ in the chroot
[20:40] <slvn_> it uses "multistrap",
[20:40] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13129481/
[20:40] <popey> Oh, I use click chroot
[20:41] <slvn_> ogra_, yes ./etc/apt in the chroot
[20:42] <slvn_> to build the partial chroot, I should just use "click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 maint" now ?
[20:44] <slvn_> I gave " http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu/ " to multistrap and it seems to have find it
[22:11] <jiremek> Hello, I try to port ubuntu touch to Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (santos10wifi).
[22:12] <jiremek> I need Help about this error: phablet/out/target/product/p5210/obj/EXECUTABLES/InputDispatcher_test_intermediates/InputDispatcher_test.o' failed
[22:12] <jiremek> Did you know where is the mistake ?
[22:40] <waressearcher2> is ubuntu phone a viable product or it will eventually flipps ?
[22:45] <OerHeks> You can buy at least 3 models now.
[22:55] <khod2> Rome wasn't built in a day :)
[22:56] <genii> But they didn't have us on the job
[23:16] <Guest69951> hi
[23:19] <Guest69951> is there any developer here?
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-mir
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[10:04] <alan_g> alf_: content with answer? https://code.launchpad.net/~kdub/mir/current-buffer-id-fix/+merge/275986
[10:06] <alf_> alan_g: yes
[11:14] <alan_g> alf_: my kms problem from yesterday. I find that DRM_MODE_DISCONNECTED gets set in reset() after the "connector = resources.connector(connector_id);". Any thoughts?
[12:05] <greyback_> RAOF: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13123486/
[12:10] <RAOF> Ta
[12:40] <alf_> alan_g: @kms, this seems normal, it gets the latest state from the hardware
[12:42] <alan_g> alf_: so we're aborting because the hardware state is unexpected?
[12:46] <alf_> alan_g: yes, but the thing is that we shouldn't be trying to set the crtc on a disconnected connector, so the problem may be at a higher level
[12:46] <alf_> alan_g: do the instructions for reproducing this still stand?
[12:47] <alf_> alan_g: (using the two branches over trunk)
[12:47] <alan_g> alf_: yes. Or use your fix-1511798 branch, in which case you also have to stop the nested server before seeing the crash
[12:48] <alan_g> BTW one of those branches has landed
[12:50] <alf_> alan_g: ok, I will give it a go
[12:51] <alan_g> alf_: thanks.
[12:58] <alan_g> alf_: I know this is "wrong" but it seems to workaround problems:
[12:58] <alan_g> - connector = resources.connector(connector_id);
[12:58] <alan_g> + if (!connector || (new_connector && new_connector->connection == DRM_MODE_CONNECTED))
[12:58] <alan_g> + connector = std::move(new_connector);
[13:03] <alan_g> Hmm, missed a "+ auto new_connector = resources.connector(connector_id);"
[13:04] <alf_> alan_g: ack
[14:16] <alan_g> alf_: any thoughts on my kms problem?
[14:21] <alf_> alan_g: with the alternative fix I was able to reproduce only once, further attempts worked fine.
[14:24] <alan_g> Without the patch to reset() I've been getting it consistently.
[14:25] <alf_> alan_g: just to make sure, instructions are: sudo gdb --args bin/mir_demo_server --window-manager system-compositor --display-config sidebyside --vt 1 --arw-file --on-fatal-error-abort --display-report log
[14:25] <alf_> alan_g: plug in screen
[14:25] <alan_g> alf_: oh! I'm testing on V+, are you on Wily?
[14:26] <alf_> alan_g: yes
[14:26] <alf_> alan_g: wily
[14:27] <alf_> alan_g: 3. bin/mir_demo_server.bin --host /tmp/mir_socket --display-config sidebyside
[14:27] <alf_> alan_g: 4. bin/mir_demo_standalone_render_surfaces --no-file --host-socket /run/user/1000/mir_socket --display-config single
[14:27] <alf_> alan_g: Then ctrl-c (4) and (3)
[14:27] <alan_g> step 3 s/.bin//
[14:28] <alan_g> Otherwise yes
[14:31] <alan_g> So it could be specific hardware, or the OS drivers
[14:55] <alf_> alan_g: It's likely that this is HW/driver related problem, because getting DRM_MODE_DISCONNECTED for a screen that is clearly plugged in, is not something Mir could really affect or mess up (unless there is memory error somewhere).
[14:57] <alf_> alan_g: @alternative fix, your concern is that although it passes the tests it doesn't have the desired effect in the above scenario (ctrl-c render surfaces), correct?
[14:58] <alan_g> yes. At least my concern is I don't understand why (yet).
[14:58] <alf_> alan_g: so, I take it that you are investigating this?
[14:59] <alan_g> currently tracing through the code
[15:00] <alf_> alan_g: ok, then I will do something different for now, but let me know if you need me to try something
[15:01] <alan_g> alf_: thanks. You said you also saw the kms issue sometimes? Is it worth MPing my workaround?
[15:08] <alf_> alan_g: I think it may break monitor disconnects in some cases (it won't update the connector if the monitor has been really disconnected), so I am hesitant to include it
[15:09] <alan_g> yeah. I hate having Mir crash as a result though.
[15:21] <alf_> alan_g: We could try to be more forgiving of incorrect set_crtc() calls, e.g., log a warning instead of aborting
[15:21] <alf_> alan_g: (incorrect => failed)
[15:23] <alan_g> alf_: when I've finished handling interrupts and investigating your alternative fix I'll try to find something more plausible.
[15:25] <alf_> alan_g: ack, from a quick look I think 1. logging a warning + returning false in mgm::RealKMSOutput::set_crtc() and 2. not aborting in mgm::DisplayBuffer::set_crtc() should do the trick, but perhaps there are other points we need to update
[15:25] <alf_> alan_g: I would propose the changes myself, but I can't really test if it helps for your use case
[15:27] <alan_g> \o/ alf_: I understand the difference - AbstractShell::focus_next_session() is selecting the dying surface's titlebar. (And that doesn't exist in the core WM that gets tested.)
[15:31] <alf_> alan_g: great
[16:00] <alan_g> alf_: should I start another loop by taking your alternate fix and MPing the changes?
[16:01] <alf_> alan_g: fine with me
[18:32] <mcphail> bschaefer: ping
[18:32] <bschaefer> mcphail, pong
[18:32] <mcphail> Hi - are you still working on SDL2 for mir?
[18:33] <bschaefer> mcphail, when its needed, or when a bug comes up
[18:33] <bschaefer> mcphail, any bugs?
[18:33] <mcphail> do you have a link for a version which works with the current Mir libs on the phone?
[18:33] <bschaefer> mcphail, yeah: https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/libsdl/update-mir-new-abi-api/+merge/276578
[18:33] <bschaefer> thats the patch
[18:33] <mcphail> Ta muchly!
[18:33] <bschaefer> for SDL2 to then new mir API
[18:33] <bschaefer> mcphail, here is the the actual branch:
[18:34] <bschaefer> https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/+junk/SDL2-new-mir-ABI
[18:34] <bschaefer> so you dont have to apply the patch, its already applied
[18:34] <mcphail> slvn_: ^^
[18:34] <mcphail> bschaefer: you are a hero
[18:34] <bschaefer> np, poke me if theres any issues!
[18:34] <slvn_> thanks !
[18:34] <mcphail> bschaefer: will do
[18:35] <mcphail> bschaefer: slvn_ is going to bring us some new games!
[18:35] <bschaefer> sweet!
[18:35] <bschaefer> slvn_, if it works on arm you can post on that MP that you've tested it and all :)
[18:35] * bschaefer needs to double check it works on the phone
[18:36] <bschaefer> IIRC it does...but i dont remember
[18:36] <slvn_> what is MP ?
[18:37] <slvn_> bschaefer, a few month ago my games where working with the SDL / mir backend
[18:37] <bschaefer> merge proposal
[18:37] <bschaefer> yup, until mir 0.14 and greater :)
[18:37] <bschaefer> all i did was move to the new API/ABI
[18:37] <bschaefer> https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/libsdl/update-mir-new-abi-api/+merge/276578
[18:37] <bschaefer> the MP ^
[18:38] <mcphail> do we still need to --disable-shared-mir when building?
[18:38] <bschaefer> mcphail, you shouldnt
[18:38] <slvn_> Ok ! yes, we found out with mcphail that api function where missing / renamed because of the new api
[18:38] <bschaefer> the only reason that was needed, was because it was broken :)
[18:38] <mcphail> ha!
[18:38] <bschaefer> ie. functions didnt line up
[18:38] <bschaefer> (they kept changing MirBool to bool and back and forth)
[18:38] <bschaefer> and would keep the dynamic loading from not working
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-ko
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[01:42] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~~
[02:18] <bluedusk> 전 그래서 깃 로컬 저장소를 드랍박스 경로에...
[02:18] <bluedusk> 하앜하앜
[02:23] <autowiz> 안녕하세요 ㅠㅠ
[02:24] <autowiz> 윈도머신 7 -> 8.1 업글하고 quassel 이 글자만 치면 죽어버리네요 ㅠㅠ
[02:38] <ircCloud^Seony> 피싱 사이트 역해킹으로 좀 털어볼까했는데, 퇴근시간이군요 ㅋ
[02:39] <ircCloud^Seony> Sqlmap으로 인젝션 가능성 스캔하다 퇴근했습니다 ㅎㅎ
[02:39] <ircCloud^Seony> 생각해보니까 괜히 보복 들어오지않을까 걱정되네요
[02:40] <ircCloud^Seony> Tor 프록시로 해야하나
[02:43] <ircCloud^Seony> 아 진짜 말 나온김에 조만간 시간내서 ldap bbs 한 번 해봐야겠네요
[02:43] <ircCloud^Seony> 이거 뭐 인젝션 무서워서 웹사이트 만들겠나 ㅎㅎ
[02:55] <bluedusk> 이미 저회회사 계정은 ldap으로 이전을..
[02:55] <bluedusk> 하앜하앜
[03:45] <autowiz> 데굴데굴
[04:23] <crixer> 아 뭔가 irc 채널 접속을 안했다 싶었더니 여기네요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:36] <crixer> 오늘 정신이 영 그러네요
[04:37] <jason__> "오늘만?" 이요? ㅋㅋㅋ 농담입니다. ^^
[04:37] <crixer> 버그 떄문에 고생하고 있어서 누가 eventually we will fix all the bugs 라고 말해줘가지고 아 그거 참 명대사다 라고 말하려고 대사를 쳤는데
[04:37] <crixer> 나중에 보니 그 대사를
[04:37] <crixer> ambassador 라고 쳤어요
[04:37] <crixer> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[04:38] <crixer> 아 그게
[04:38] <crixer> 최근에는 계속그랬던거같아요
[04:38] <crixer> 롤 세기말이라고 부케로 막하다가
[04:38] <crixer> 플레2까지 떨어져서.......
[04:38] <jason__> ㅎㅎㅎ
[04:38] <crixer> 다시 올린다고 새벽까지해서 그런가
[04:38] <crixer> 커피떄문에 피곤함은 못느끼겠는데 뭔가 뇌는 그런 피곤함을 아는듯요
[04:39] <crixer> 반쯤 잠든 상태랄까..
[04:39] <crixer> 다행인건 오늘 금요일이라
[04:40] <crixer> 퇴근하자마자 가서 자고나서 좋은 상태로 롤을 하거나 버그를 고치거나 하하하핳
[04:42] <crixer> 오늘 버그 고치려다가 오히려 산으로 보내버린 느낌이랄까요
[04:43] <crixer> 내가 버그를 고친게 아니고 버그가 나를 버그로만들어버리는 증상..
[04:43] <crixer> 이 생긴듯요
[05:11] <HolyKnight> 트윗펌: 나만 그런게 아니었어!! 요즘 진짜 이렇게 사람 꼬시나보네요?! 다들 조심하세요!! http://pic.twitter.com/LEkAAUkY0K
[08:01] <crixer> 후 부들부들
[08:01] <crixer> 혹시 자전거 타시는 분들 신발 구겨 신지마세요 ㅠ.ㅠ
[08:01] <crixer> 신발 구겨 신고 탔다가크게 넘어졌어요.. 킁 어깨로 넘어져서 완전 쑤시네요
[08:40] <PotatoGim> 에고... 저도 몇번 비슷한 일을 겪어보고선 꺾어신는 버릇을 고쳤지요...ㅜ
[08:46] <pchero_work> ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[08:54] <HolyKnight> 에그타르트
[08:54] <HolyKnight> 먹을만하네유
[08:54] <HolyKnight> 다른층에 행사가 있어서
[08:54] <HolyKnight> 가봄
[10:03] <samahui_WS> 즐거운 금요일 저녁... 비도 내리고 시원하네요
[10:03] <samahui_WS> 즐거운 주말들 보내세요~
[11:09] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3633913&cpage=&mbsW=&select=&opt=&keyword=
[12:17] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3637049&cpage=1
[12:47] <autowiz> 가볍게? 한잔 하고 들어왔습니다 ㅎㅎ
[12:47] <autowiz> 모두들 불금읠 활활활 불태워보아요~~
[15:32] <HolyKnight> http://baseballpark.khan.co.kr/bbs/board_khan.php?bo_table=bullpen3&wr_id=550998&page=2
[18:36] <autowiz> 오오 이거 좋은데요
[18:37] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:43] <autowiz> 안녕하세요 서니님~
[18:43] <autowiz> 오늘도 즐거운 불금 되세요~~ ㅎㅎ
[18:44] <Work^Seony> 아직도 안주무시네요 ㅎㅎ
[18:45] <Work^Seony> 헤로인에 대해서는, 나무위키를 읽는게 제일 좋아요
[18:45] <Work^Seony> 아주 설명이 자세하거든요
[18:46] <autowiz> 오늘은 자다가 좀전에 깼어요 ㅋㅋ
[18:46] <Work^Seony> 아.. 잠이 없으신가보네요..
[18:46] <Work^Seony> 잠 없는 사람이 제일 부럽습니다 ㅎㅎ
[18:50] <Work^Seony> 혹시 리눅스에서 Tor 프록시 써보신 적 있으세요?
[18:52] <autowiz> 그러고 보니 tor 브라우저도 윈도우즈 에서만 썼었던거 같네요 ㅠㅠ
[18:54] <Work^Seony> 어제 피싱메일 받았는데, sqlmap 사용법도 좀 익혀볼까해서 tor 프록시 통해서 털어보려고 하는데 이게 사용법이 따로 없어서요
[18:56] <autowiz> tor browser 홈페이지에서 다운받아서 실행시키면 tor 네트워크 접속기랑 tor 브라우저랑 자동으로 한방에 실행되는개념으로 이해했었거든요
[18:58] <Work^Seony> 그렇군요...
[18:58] <Work^Seony> sqlmap 돌려보니까, GET 인자를 안주면 스캔이 어렵네요
[19:02] <autowiz> GET 인자를 안주면 스캔이 어렵다라... GET 뒤에 주는것들 말씀하시는건가요?
[19:03] <Work^Seony> 네 예를 들어서, www.site.com/index.php?id=1
[19:03] <Work^Seony> 여기서 ?id=1 이게 GET 변수거든요
[19:03] <Work^Seony> 변수를 안주면 스캔을 안하네요
[19:09] <autowiz> 응답하라 1988 이라는 드라마가 시작한다고 어제 0편 이 나왔는데 쭈욱 대충 훓어주는 그런 내용이었는데
[19:10] <autowiz> 윈도우즈 8.1 새로 설치하고 보고 있는데 심각하게 끓기는 겁니다. 그냥 인내하면서 봤는데 ... 다보고 나니 그래픽 가속이 꺼져있는 ㅠㅠ
[19:11] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[19:11] <Work^Seony> 근데 응답하라 어제 시작한 거에요?
[19:12] <autowiz> 0편이 ... 지난주에 나왔었네요 ㅋㅋ
[19:12] <autowiz> 어제는 1편이 방송했었습니다. 다운받아 봐야 겠습니다. ㅋㅋ
[19:21] <DarkCircle> 새벽반 붸밀리 /-ㅠ-/
[19:23] <DarkCircle> 설마 요 며칠새에 한아얄씨랑 엮자고 하신 분 없었겠죠 ㅋㅎㅎㅎ
[19:23] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[19:23] <DarkCircle> 요새도 시끄러운 닝겐 있어서 ...
[19:26] <autowiz> 그렇군요 ㅎㅎ
[19:26] <Work^Seony> 분명 input name="Passwd" 라고 적혀있는데, sqlmap 돌리면 might not be injectable 뜨네요
[19:27] <DarkCircle> Password로도 시도해보는게 어떨까요?
[19:28] <DarkCircle> 소 뒷걸음질 치다 개구리 한마리 밟(....)듯이 때려맞추는 경우가 있을지도
[19:31] <Work^Seony> 폼 들어가는 파일이나 그런 정보가 전혀 안보이는 걸로 봐서는 angular js로 만든거 같네요
[19:32] <Work^Seony> 아 출근해서 괜히 없는데 시간 쓰느니 걍 때려치고 일해야겠어요 ㅋ
[19:38] <autowiz> 할려면 지대로 해야지요 ㅎㅎ
[19:38] <DarkCircle> 앵귤러.js로 만들든 뭘로 만들든 까보면 나오지 않을까요 ㅋㅎㅎ
[19:38] <DarkCircle> 물론 까볼라치면 시간이 좀 걸리겠지만.
[19:38] <Work^Seony> 파고들면 나오기야 하겠죠 ㅋ
[20:28] <DarkCircle> 배고파죽겠네요.
[21:06] <autowiz> 죽지마시옵소서~~
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 오밤중에 가스불을 켤수도 없고 ㅡ,.ㅡ
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 요새 한끼 먹고 간식 한번 먹고 땡.
[21:08] <autowiz> 에고 너무 무리하시는건 아니시지요? ㅠㅠ
[21:09] <DarkCircle> 움직이는 양에 비해 "너무 많이 먹어서" 식사양을 줄이는것 뿐이예요 'ㅅ'/
[21:11] <DarkCircle> 덕분에 몸무게 줄긴 줄었네요 -ㅅ-
[21:11] <autowiz> 하긴 저도 요즘 먹는걸 많이많이 줄이고 있습니다.
[21:13] <autowiz> 바나나 사서 배고플때 가끔 한개씩 먹습니다. 섬유질도 많고 칼륨도 많고 비타민도 많고
[21:13] <autowiz> 칼로리는 낮아서 완전 좋아요 ㅎㅎ
[21:15] <DarkCircle> 예전엔 뷔페집 가면 막 네접시씩 막 퍼먹고 그랬는데 요새는 조금씩 ...
[21:16] <DarkCircle> 일단 퍼오기 전에 "내가 이걸 다 먹을 수 있을까"부터 고민하게 되더라고요. 원체 남기는거 자체를 싫어해서
[21:20] <autowiz> 저도 구내식당이나 뷔페나 남기는걸 엄청 싫어하거든요
[21:20] <autowiz> 일반식당가도 상에 나온건 깔끔하게 다 먹어버리니까 아주머니들이 좋아라 하시더라구요 ㅎㅎ
[21:23] <DarkCircle> 어떤 식당은 솔직히 안먹거나 적게 먹는 반찬을 너무 많이 주는 경향도 없지 않더라구요. 많이먹으라고 많이 주는건 좋은데 차라리 처음부터 적게 주고 번거롭더라도 필요한만큼 나중에 조금씩 퍼가는게 낫거든요.
[21:24] <DarkCircle> 그럼 폐기율이 확 떨어지는데 귀찮다고 한번에 다 퍼줬다가 버리는 양 많으면 영업하는 입장에서 오히려 더 골치아파지는 ..
[21:27] <autowiz> 벌써 꽤 됐지요? ㅎㅎ 우리나라 잔반 많다고 줄이자고 티비에도 나오고 그랬던같은데요
[21:56] <DarkCircle> 그래도 뭐 똑같애요.
[21:56] <DarkCircle> 잔반줄인다고 어떻게 하는거 같은데
[21:57] <DarkCircle> 애초에 강제적으로 보증금을 빼서라도 못남기게 철저히 막아야 하는데
[21:57] <DarkCircle> 설렁설렁 ... 나중엔 그냥 에라 모르겠다 단가인상 ... 뻔한 시나리오죠 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[21:57] <autowiz> ㅎㅎㅎ 저도 슬슬 배가 고파오네요 아흠 뭔가 맛난거 먹고싶네요 ㅋㅋ
[21:58] <DarkCircle> 치즈버거 -ㅅ-
[21:58] <DarkCircle> 에 커피.
[21:58] <autowiz> 350 kcal
[21:58] <DarkCircle> 전 치즈를 못먹으니 패스
[21:58] <DarkCircle> 아침엔 맹모닝이 있죠
[21:58] <autowiz> + 커피 90kcal
[21:59] <DarkCircle> 맹모닝에는
[21:59] <DarkCircle> 생선 후라이도 나오니까 ...
[21:59] <DarkCircle> 대충 500킬로칼로리 찍는다고 보시면 돼요
[21:59] <DarkCircle> 딱 한끼.
[21:59] <autowiz> 생선이 나와요?
[21:59] <DarkCircle> 네
[21:59] <DarkCircle> 튀긴거요.
[21:59] <autowiz> 한국에서요?
[22:00] <DarkCircle> 감자랑 생선이랑 으깨서 나온거.
[22:00] <DarkCircle> 맥도날드 아침 메뉴에 나와요.
[22:00] <autowiz> 마그도나르도 안간지가 오래되긴 했는데 아침메뉴에 그런것도 나오는지 몰랐네요 ^^
[22:01] <DarkCircle> 대신
[22:01] <DarkCircle> 기름이 철철 넘칩니다 -ㅠ-;
[22:01] <DarkCircle> 사실 커피에 맹모닝만 먹어도 되는데...
[22:01] <DarkCircle> 담백하니 딱 한끼 식사정도의 열량이고 그정도가 적당.
[22:02] <DarkCircle> 맥모닝은 10시 반쯤인가 넘어서 나오는 정규메뉴랑은 달리 기름이 없어서 좋아요.
[22:04] <Work^Seony> 칼로리 너무 신경 안쓰셔도 되는게, 그게 다 100% 몸에 흡수되진 않아요
[22:05] <autowiz> 그렇겠지요 ㅎㅎ
[22:07] <Work^Seony> 참고로 더 말씀드리자면, 고기 먹을때 지방 떼고 먹을 필요 없습니다
[22:07] <Work^Seony> 지방보다 설탕이 더 많이 살로 가거든요
[22:07] <DarkCircle> 소는 짜르고 먹어야돼요
[22:07] <autowiz> 흡수가 잘 되니까요
[22:07] <DarkCircle> 돼지는 상관없는데
[22:08] <Work^Seony> 네 소 지방은 몸에 쌓여서..
[22:08] <autowiz> 어제 저녁에 한우 먹고 온 ... ㅎㅎ
[22:08] <DarkCircle> 돼지는 그냥 오겹살이든 껍데기든 그냥 다 먹어도 되긴 하지만 ...
[22:08] <DarkCircle> 지방층 너무 많으면 그것도 좀 어느정도 짜르는게 좋 ...
[22:09] <DarkCircle> 가공육 만들때 보면 그냥 돼지고기는 살이고 지방이고 나발이고 다 갈아서 덩어리로 만들죠 ㅋㅋㅋ
[22:09] <Work^Seony> 돼지고기 먹을 때 너무 살만 있어서 뻑뻑하다싶을때 지방 한모금 베어물면 굉장히 부드러워지죠 ㅎㅎ
[22:11] <autowiz> 아악 배고프잖아요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[22:18] <DarkCircle> 자고 일어나야 뭘 집어먹을거 같은데 -ㅅ- (졸립)...
[22:19] <Work^Seony> 워크래프트 영화 트레일러 나왔네요
[22:19] <Work^Seony> 반지의 제왕 같은 느낌이, 블리자드가 직접 제작했다니 기대되네요
[22:20] <autowiz> 호오...
[22:21] <Work^Seony> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X91IYXQ1X3w
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"authors": [
"DarkCircle",
"HolyKnight",
"PotatoGim",
"Work^Seony",
"autowiz",
"bluedusk",
"crixer",
"ircCloud^Seony",
"jason__",
"pchero_work",
"samahui_WS"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-ko.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
}
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