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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-release
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[05:29] <tjaalton> how come nautilus is shown as being in "updates,proposed" for trusty, though it should be released already?
[05:29] <tjaalton> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus
[05:30] <tjaalton> there's another update on the queue that I'd like to get in
[05:30] <tjaalton> but sru-review complains that -0u9.10 is already there
[05:30] <tjaalton> (the old version)
[09:10] <Laney> tjaalton: It's usually deleted when moving to -updates
[09:11] <tjaalton> Laney: but not here? sru-review doesn't even offer the new one
[09:13] <Laney> tjaalton: aha, seems to be a manual step http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[09:13] * Laney isn't on the SRU team so doesn't know such things
[09:13] <tjaalton> oh
[09:14] <tjaalton> done! :)
[09:14] <Laney> seems like sru-review is showing the wrong version but if you look at the diff it's right
[09:14] <tjaalton> indeed, duh
[09:14] <tjaalton> anyway
[09:14] <Laney> maybe because I fixed theh old changelog
[09:14] <tjaalton> it should be clear now
[09:14] * Laney dunno
[09:14] <tjaalton> I'll ack it
[09:14] <Laney> OK, don't think that was necessary though. :P
[09:15] <tjaalton> never seen a package in that state before
[10:10] <cjwatson> tjaalton: yeah, we do the removals in bulk from time to time. I've just poked it
[10:10] <cjwatson> (from -proposed)
[10:10] <cjwatson> one of those days I'll finish the Archive.copyPackage(move=True) implementation
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.653655
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.654239
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2015-11-06-#lubuntu
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[14:06] <infinitebagels> Heyt
[14:07] <infinitebagels> I just installed Lubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Thinkpad T420 and now my batterylife is shit.
[14:07] <infinitebagels> is it safe to install laptop-mode-tools?
[14:08] <infinitebagels> I'm just updating my laptop right now
[14:09] <leszek> infinitebagels: yeah you can do so
[14:10] <infinitebagels> leszek, is there any better packages for power managment for Thinkpads?
[14:12] <leszek> I am also using this on my t420 and I am quite happy about it
[14:12] <leszek> the only thing I also installed was the fan control
[14:12] <leszek> and tweaked it a little
[14:13] <infinitebagels> leszek, so just laptop-mode-tools and the fan control
[14:14] <infinitebagels> leszek, how's your battery life?
[14:14] <infinitebagels> I just made the jump from Debian Jessie to Lubuntu LTS
[14:14] <infinitebagels> I had 8+ hours before
[14:14] <leszek> Yeah around 6-8 hours
[14:16] <infinitebagel> Sorry about that
[14:16] <infinitebagel> I had a bunch of IO errors after installing system updates and not rebooting :p
[14:17] <infinitebagel> I'm getting sh: echo: I/O Error
[14:19] <infinitebagel> and google says it might be my SSD is dying... fuck me.
[14:20] <infinitebagel> leszek,
[14:21] <infinitebagel> So it seems like the setup script for laptop-mode-tools in 14.04 LTS is broken
[14:23] <infinitebagel> yep
[14:24] <infinitebagel> Scaling is working on my proccessor now
[14:24] <infinitebagel> if I find any method of squeezing more battery life out I'll write a java app to automate it for other Lubuntu users
[14:24] <infinitebagel> For anyone having sh echo io error with laptop-mode-tools, just manually do the "echo ondemand \> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[14:24] <infinitebagel> " command
[14:25] <infinitebagel> It will set the scaling to work. You might want to also sync it after.
[14:25] <hateball> infinitebagel: is this a new install, on your SSD?
[14:25] <infinitebagel> yes
[14:25] <hateball> infinitebagel: is it a samsung 8xx ssd?
[14:25] <infinitebagel> Kingston SSD Now!
[14:25] <hateball> hmmm
[14:25] <infinitebagel> 120gb
[14:25] <infinitebagel> The only samsung SSD I would buy is the 850
[14:26] <infinitebagel> I also have an ADATA 128gb MSATA in this laptop :)
[14:26] <hateball> Very well, it could have the same issue I guess. See #1 here http://www.howtoeverything.net/linux/hardware/ubuntu-freeze-issue-after-ssd-upgrade
[14:27] <infinitebagel> I'm not getting any freezing
[14:27] <infinitebagel> Only laptop-mode-tools has spat up this error
[14:28] <hateball> Yeah well, nothing bad happens if you try it. But it's up to you
[14:28] <hateball> For me, my drive would work well at times, then randomly crap out, etc
[14:29] <infinitebagel> My drive locked up hard yesterday
[14:29] <infinitebagel> I also had FDE enabled.
[14:30] <infinitebagel> Anything else I should install on my laptop? :p
[14:30] <hateball> Well, try that kernel parameter before you suffer data loss is my suggestion
[14:31] <infinitebagel> hateball, It's been working perfectly without any dataloss
[14:32] <infinitebagel> (I came from debian, from 7)
[14:34] <infinitebagel> either way I'm not worried about dataloss, the issue only arose with laptop-mode-tools
[14:34] <infinitebagel> I'll try installing another package and seeing
[14:40] <infinitebagel> no error
[22:52] <Dirkson> Hey all. I have a lubuntu 13.whatever computer in front of me. How do I upgrade to a more recent version of lubuntu?
[22:53] <Unit193> !eolupgrades
[22:58] <Dirkson> Unit193: Thanks for the link. There's a lot of fluff on that page, and it leaves some crucial information out - Is it telling me to upgrade the kernel specifically, reboot, (Although it doesn't mention that) then do a dist-upgrade and a do-release-upgrade?
[22:59] <Unit193> I didn't check myself recently, I'd guess sed on sources.list until you get to 14.04, then do-release-upgrade unless you want to stick on LTS.
[23:00] <Unit193> Personally, I'd try to clean up afterwards too.
[23:02] <Dirkson> Unit193: The linked page definitely doesn't suggest any manual sources.list changes
[23:02] <Unit193> dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | grep obso to see obsolete files, apt list | grep installed,loc to see packages installed locally but no longer downloadable, and then deborphans to check and see what some packages you may be able to remove.
[23:02] <Unit193> Dirkson: Ah, I see.
[23:07] <Dirkson> Hmm. Well, dist-upgrade ain't gonna work anyway - Looks like archives.ubuntu.com dropped all the saucy stuff?
[23:07] <Unit193> Right, there's old-archive, or whatnot.
[23:10] <Dirkson> Ugh. I guess I should have dropped my own linux onto a flash drive after all. This is starting to look like a nightmare no matter how I move forward.
[23:10] <Unit193> EOL upgrades aren't exactly fun, but doable.
[23:17] <Dirkson> Unit193: You and the linked page disagree about the ubuntu way to do that, and the do-upgrade tool complains that it doesn't have enough free space (5+gb!) to do its thing. I can't just ignore the problem, since apt-get stopped working. All things considered, the system seems horrifyingly broken for something less than two years old.
[23:19] <Unit193> Dirkson: Well I stated how *I* would do it, not the Official Ubuntu method.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.659178
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-pl
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[06:34] <DaveyG> hi all, how is everyone.
[06:34] <DaveyG> wondered if anyone had heard of the kno?
[06:35] <DaveyG> kano?
[06:44] <sysek> DaveyG: kano?
[06:44] <sysek> what is that?
[06:46] <DaveyG> From what i can work out, its a RPi board with software on it to help kids learn to program
[07:01] <Ashiren> http://www.kano.me/
[07:02] <DaveyG> you used it before Ashiren?
[07:03] <Ashiren> no
[07:03] <Ashiren> just google it :v
[07:03] <DaveyG> i have
[07:03] <DaveyG> wondered if anyone had used it before
[07:06] <Ashiren> also why are we speaking english here? D:
[07:06] <DaveyG> Ah
[07:07] <DaveyG> thats my fault
[07:07] <DaveyG> missed the -pl
[07:08] <Ashiren> and this isnt perl ~
[07:26] <gjm> co tu się stanęło
[07:42] <qermit> a co się miało stanąć
[07:46] <sysek> gadaliśmy w dziwnym języku
[07:48] <gjm> po rosyjsku chyba
[07:54] <sysek> ano
[10:11] <Spaulding> ;)
[10:11] <Spaulding> to byl gang z albanii!
[10:11] <Spaulding> heszke w meszke!
[10:13] <gjm> nie żaden podrabianiec
[10:17] <Spaulding> dokladnie
[10:17] <Spaulding> dobra
[10:17] <Spaulding> trzeba sie zmobilizowac
[10:17] <Spaulding> bo juz minela 1.2h
[10:17] <Spaulding> a ja nawet na ssh sie nie zalogowalem :D
[10:17] <Spaulding> zeby checki zrobic
[10:24] <jacekn> zainstaluj nagiosa i bedziesz mial wolne
[10:24] <jacekn> albo prometheusa, on jest teraz cool
[10:30] <Spaulding> jacekn: nie nie
[10:30] <Spaulding> to appka w php
[10:31] <Spaulding> musze logi sobie badac
[10:31] <Spaulding> po roznych klientach
[10:31] <Spaulding> rozne patche bla bla bla
[10:31] <Spaulding> daloby rade zautomatyzowac
[10:31] <Spaulding> ale nie chce mi sie ;p
[10:31] <Spaulding> tka chociaz powiem ze cos "robie" :D
[10:31] <Spaulding> wysle raport i git
[10:31] <Spaulding> prometheus... 1sze slysze
[10:32] <Spaulding> ostatnio sensu probowalem
[10:32] <Spaulding> ale niespodobalo mi sie
[10:32] <Spaulding> mialo swoje fajne strony
[10:33] <jacekn> moze jakis logwatch czy cos takiego pomoze?
[10:33] <Spaulding> daloby rade
[10:33] <Spaulding> moglbym to bashem i cronem owalic
[10:33] <jacekn> nie uzywalem tego prometheusa ale z tego co czytam to jest dosc sensowny
[10:33] <Spaulding> na podstawie grepa
[10:33] <Spaulding> grepowac po slowach kluczowych
[10:33] <Spaulding> ale jak mowilem :P nie ma potrzeby zeby miec jeszcze mniej roboty
[10:34] <Spaulding> teraz juz po prostu tak sie opierdalam krytycznie :D
[10:34] <Spaulding> w sumie robie tez migracje centos 5 -> centos 7
[10:34] <Spaulding> ale z tym to nie predko
[10:34] <Spaulding> bo php'a dev'i aktualizowali z 5.2 do 5.5
[10:34] <Spaulding> i caly czas cos w kodzie grzebia
[10:35] <Spaulding> ale zrobilem juz percone i myisam na innodb
[10:35] <Spaulding> na produkcji chodza u nas myisam'y po 300-400G
[10:35] <Spaulding> lock jak sie czasem wjebie to baze na 10-15minut zablokuje
[10:35] <Spaulding> trzeba killowac
[10:35] <Spaulding> hahaha
[10:36] <qermit> z kodu JS w RWE przy resetowaniu hasła => // validateRegistrationForm('Repassword', $('#ID_renewpassword'), $('#ID_newpassword'));
[10:37] <qermit> Spaulding: chyba do centosa 7.1
[10:37] <Spaulding> qermit: no tak, mi chodzi o mainline
[10:37] <Spaulding> bo tak to 5.11 -> 7.1
[10:37] <Spaulding> ogolnie to zajebiscie mi sie nie podoba centos
[10:38] <Spaulding> z tymi update'ami
[10:38] <qermit> Spaulding: nie jest zły
[10:38] <qermit> w porównaniu z 6, 7 jest milutkie
[10:39] <Spaulding> qermit: ale upgrade w normalnym distro wyglada inaczej
[10:39] <Spaulding> debiana 5 -> 8 zaktualizuje
[10:39] <Spaulding> byc moze nawet bez fuckupu
[10:39] <Spaulding> ;)
[10:40] <Spaulding> fakt ze 5 -> 6 -> 7 -> 8...
[10:40] <Spaulding> ale zarobi
[10:40] <Spaulding> w centosie polecaja reinstall :(
[10:43] <Spaulding> qermit: dalej bawisz sie gentoo?
[10:43] <Spaulding> bo tam tez raczej upgrade robil
[10:43] <Spaulding> a jak na stable sie siedzialo to calkiem ;)
[11:00] <jacekn> ja to nienawidze sie obijac, meczy mnie to jakos
[11:12] <Spaulding> jacekn: a wez idz
[11:13] <Spaulding> jacekn: jak jest awaria to najlepiej
[11:13] <Spaulding> tak czas leci ;)
[11:13] <Spaulding> a tako jak nic nie ma do roboty to slabo
[11:13] <Spaulding> dluzy sie strasznie
[11:13] <Spaulding> a jak rzucilem fajki to juz calkiem
[11:13] <Spaulding> po mojej cogodzinnej przerwie :(
[11:14] <jacekn> no ale zawsze cos sobie mozna ciekawego znalezc do roboty. Np. pobaw sie prometheusem czy cos takiego. A jak naprawde sie nic nie da to trzeba prace zmienic
[11:14] <Spaulding> a to tak na boku to ciagle robie
[11:15] <Spaulding> czy to go langa sobie koduje cos tam
[11:15] <Spaulding> czy django/python
[11:15] <Spaulding> ;)
[11:15] <Spaulding> etc.
[11:15] <jacekn> zautomatyzuj swoja prace w 100% i bedziesz sie mogl bawic non stop :)
[11:15] <Spaulding> a co do roboty mam kontrakt na 12msc :P
[11:15] <Spaulding> jak zerwe to musze hajsy placic :D
[11:15] <jacekn> ach, not tak to troche zmienia
[11:15] <Spaulding> ale bez problemu
[11:16] <Spaulding> cos tam zawsze jest
[11:16] <Spaulding> tego centosa musze pomeczyc :P
[11:16] <Spaulding> troche ansiblow napisalem
[11:26] <Spaulding> lol, jaki ten sixxs durny...
[11:26] <Spaulding> dobrze ze HE tez daje ipv6
[11:26] <Spaulding> i tez dziala za natem...
[11:32] <xveronica> cześć
[11:33] <Ashiren> .cat :3
[11:33] <xveronica> visca catalunya triomfant
[11:34] <Ashiren> w czymze mozemy ci pomoc
[11:37] <xveronica> U+00DF
[11:38] <firemark> Ashiren: musisz poczekać do jutra
[11:38] <firemark> oh, domena.
[11:38] <firemark> xveronica: catalonia? :D
[11:46] <Ashiren> przestraszyles go
[11:46] <Spaulding> hmm
[11:46] <Spaulding> :D
[11:46] <Spaulding> kolejny zdekonspirowany albanczyk
[11:49] <firemark> :D
[12:23] <qermit> Spaulding: nie mam czasu na gentoo
[12:32] <Ashiren> a kto ma
[12:43] <Spaulding> qermit: no wlasnie
[12:43] <Spaulding> w koncu chyba kazdy tak konczy
[12:44] <Spaulding> ja do dzisiaj pamietam jak na prace licencjacka kompilowalem latexa 2-3h
[12:44] <Spaulding> :D
[12:44] <Spaulding> po czyms takim stwierdzilem ze w dupie to mam i przelazlem na archa
[12:44] <Spaulding> a teraz only os x ;p
[12:44] <Spaulding> bo czlowiek juz tak leniwy ze nawet sie instalowac nie chce :P
[13:31] <drathir> Spaulding: nie do konca dziala za natem, kiedys dzialalo teraz porty jakies musza byc dostepne i adress byc pingowalny z zewnatrz...
[13:38] <Spaulding> drathir: dmz i wan ping styka
[13:38] <Spaulding> i nie port
[13:39] <Spaulding> a protokol 41 :P
[13:39] <Spaulding> port to bez problemu
[13:39] <Spaulding> ale podobno dmz ogarnia to
[13:40] <drathir> Spaulding: a na neo to nie problem gorzej jak isp natuje, ze nie idzie sie dogadac, "bo nie"...
[13:40] <Spaulding> drathir: no wtedy lipka, wiadomo
[13:40] <Spaulding> sixxs jedynie
[13:40] <Spaulding> ktory jest tepa dzida
[13:41] <drathir> Spaulding: juz chyba wolalbym openvpn+he...
[13:41] <Spaulding> drathir: myslalem natywnie a nie o haxxach :P
[13:41] <Spaulding> tak to jasne ze da rade
[13:41] <drathir> ewentualnie z openvpna choc tam chyba rzadko ipv6 spotykane u providerow?
[13:43] <drathir> teraz neo niby natywne ipv6 ma tylko podobno dziala niby wylacznie z ich routerami nie testowalem niestety...
[13:44] <drathir> zawsze mozna jakiegos tplinka i tunel wlaczyc w nim, lub jak sie bawic to na calego i openwrtka zarzucic...
[13:44] <drathir> jeden minus brak hw nata na routerze po przesiadce na openwrt...
[13:50] <qermit> brak nata?
[13:50] <qermit> oO
[13:50] <BlessJah> hardware nata
[13:50] <qermit> nie ma czegoś takiego jak hardłernat
[13:51] <Spaulding> hmmm
[13:51] <Spaulding> qermit: a co jezeli jest tylko my o nim nie wiemy?
[13:52] <BlessJah> google mowi ze jest
[13:52] <Spaulding> ou, ok
[13:52] <Spaulding> juz kminie ocb chyba
[13:53] <Spaulding> ze nat zrobiony embedded
[13:53] <Spaulding> imo
[14:04] <drathir> qermit: 14:50 < BlessJah> hardware nata
[14:07] <drathir> Spaulding: wspomaganie sprzetowe w soc-u, zawsze to szybciej troche.... w cisco czy juniperach to nie wiem czy o tym nawet wspominaja, bo tam to chyba na porzadku dziennym, tplinki od niedawna w nowych modelach supporta dali, ale jeszcze openwrt jesli nic sie nie zmienilo nie supporci...
[14:31] <qermit> drathir: aa chodzi o akceleratory sieciowe
[14:31] <qermit> cisco asici
[14:35] <drathir> qermit: hardware accelerated nat mam na mysli...
[14:40] <cumana> dzien dobry
[14:41] <cumana> co sie stalo z polskim forum ubuntu?
[14:44] <drathir> wladza zapewne sie dobrala...bo kaczki...
[14:44] <drathir> a tak na serio nie mam zielonego pojecia...
[14:49] <cumana> slusznie, nie ma miejsca dla subsaharyjskiej ideologii w katolickim kraju :)
[15:40] <Spaulding> cumana: idz na eng forum
[15:40] <Spaulding> ew de jak wolisz gebelsow ;d
[15:42] <gjm> install gentoo
[15:45] <Ashiren> albo ubuntu.de
[16:14] <sysek> muslumbuntu.fr
[16:14] <sysek> polecam
[16:14] <sysek> bombowa strona
[16:18] <gjm> ubuntu 21.37 allahu akbar
[16:18] <Voldenet> ubuntu nie ma podwersji .37
[16:19] <gjm> ale może mieć
[16:19] <sysek> to bedzie miało
[23:00] <Ashiren> happy Caturday
[23:00] <Ashiren> :3 https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m128258G1q1qjahcpo1_1280.jpg
[23:56] <bastetmilo> cześć
[23:58] <bastetmilo> słuchajcie, ktoś ostatnio kupował jakiegoś nowego lapka, który bangla z Ubu? Szukam czegoś dla siebie ale jakoś nie jestem na bieżąco, a nie chciałabym zostać z Windowsem na pokładzie
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.674843
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-kernel
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[00:44] <bananapie> I did a git checkout of the kernel sources for wily. Is it possible to recompile a single driver ( gpu/radeon ) without recompiling everything? I want to do testing on the driver based on comments from freedesktop.org, and I don't want to spend hours compiling the kernel.
[20:38] <hallyn> apw: anyone on the team well-versed in the cgroup code?
[22:11] <apw> hallyn, well versed prolly not, but ask and we cna think on it ...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.676762
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-tr
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[23:52] <Supervisor> merhaba, online var mi?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.677254
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2015-11-06-#lubuntu-devel
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[17:39] <wxl> key flexiondotorg what do i need to do to use a hdmi→dvi adapter with the pi2 image?
[18:15] <phillw> wxl: the adapter... we have a discussion on Fb now about adpaters, evidently the amazon one is crap.
[18:20] <phillw> belkin is a trusted make, but their stuff is expensive. I do not mind paying the premium for their build quality.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.680558
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"phillw",
"wxl"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23lubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#lubuntu-devel"
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu+1
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[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:24] <Fudge> hi
[09:27] <lordievader> o/
[10:32] <Fudge> hi
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> hi Fudge
[12:06] <Fudge> hey there
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.681393
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"Fudge",
"lordievader",
"lotuspsychje"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-irc
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[01:32] <Unit193> c is for cookie, that's good enough for me...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.682601
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Unit193"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-irc.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
}
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2015-11-06-#maas
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[03:53] <mup> Bug #1513695 opened: setting up dhcp on second interface with cidr ip/21 failed <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513695>
[06:38] <nitin> I want to import custom boot images in MAAS. How can I do it?
[06:39] <nitin> Please help me with this
[10:03] <mup> Bug #1513775 opened: MAAS didn't parse dnssec-validation automatically <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513775>
[10:45] <mup> Bug #1513789 opened: In regiond, several start-up tasks are done concurrently with other Twisted service starts <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513789>
[10:48] <mup> Bug #1513789 changed: In regiond, several start-up tasks are done concurrently with other Twisted service starts <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513789>
[11:00] <mup> Bug #1513789 opened: regiond gets wedged when restarted rapidly <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513789>
[15:15] <lborda> hi guys I am trying maas 1.9.0 (beta2) in a development environment, do the subnets can only be added through the cli now ?
[15:51] <roaksoax_> lborda: for now yes
[15:52] <roaksoax_> lborda: 1.9.1 will fix that though
[15:53] <lborda> cool tks roaksoax_
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.684873
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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"lborda",
"mup",
"nitin",
"roaksoax_"
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"channel": "#maas"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-fi
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[16:23] <jansku> iltaa porukat.. Onko ketään neroa paikalla, joka osais kertoa mitä pitäis tehdä, kun mulla on ubuntu 14.04 ja ostin Epsonin tulostimen XP-225 ja nämä eivät jostain syystä suostu kommunikoimaan keskenään..?
[16:24] <Thaurwylth> Duodapahannii. Onko siinä CUPS?
[16:24] <jansku> mikä se on?
[16:24] <Thaurwylth> Selaimessa vähän epästandardilta näyttävä osoite localhost:631 on se, missä CUPS asuu, jos asuu.
[16:25] <Thaurwylth> Jos siinä on CUPS ja Epsonilta on Linux-ajuri saatavissa, niin sen voi yrittää rämpätä manuaalisesti käyttöön CUPSin kautta tuosta kyseisestä localhostin osoitteesta.
[16:27] <jansku> tuolla epsonin sivulla ei ollu linuxille omaa ohjainta, eli sellasta ei sit oo? OLIS OLLU WINDOWS, MAC os X, Android ja se iPhoneen mikä menee
[16:28] <Thaurwylth> Eiiii välttämättä tarkoita sitä, mutta tarkoittaa kyllä, että homma mutkistuu.
[16:28] <jansku> siis iOS
[16:28] <jansku> pystytkö auttamaan?
[16:29] <Thaurwylth> Enpäs kyllä enää kauheasti tuon enempää, kokeile etsiä Googlella "epson [sejase] linux". Jos ei löydy muualtakaan kuin Epsonin sivuilta, niin sitten on hankalta. Varmaan vielä voi kokeilla etsiä Aptin maksimaalisen isoista pakettilistoista - eli Universe-Multiverse, vieläkö nuo nimet ovat olemassa? Ja siis ainakin joltain nettisivulta jos se löytyy, niin on todennäköisesti PPD-muotoinen tiedosto.
[16:29] <Thaurwylth> Muuta en osaa sanoa.
[16:33] <jansku> onkohan tää http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule se, mistä sen saa?
[16:37] <Thaurwylth> Eeeeehkä. En tiijä juuh elikkäs! Mutta voihan sitä kokeilla vain Googleen vielä "epson [sejasemahdollisimmantarkasti] ppd", jos ei tuolta löydy. Tietty tuo mahdollisimman tarkasti voi olla huonokin neuvo, esim. Canoneissa tai joissakin Laserjeteissä oli aikoinaan silleen, että ainakin neljään toimisto-monitoimiasemaan kävi sama ajuri, mutta se oli nimeltään vain yhtä niistä vastaava.
[16:38] <Thaurwylth> No, kumminkin, jos oikea PPD-tiedosto löytyy, niin tallenna se levylle, laita muistiin, missä kohti se on omalla koneella, sitten lisää CUPSiin tiedot tulostimesta ja kerro sille PPD sijainti.
[16:38] <Thaurwylth> CUPS sisältää mahdollisuuden tulostaa testisivuja - tietysti - joten sillä on sitten helppo kokeilla, saiko CUPS yhteyden romppeeseen ja laitteen hallintaansa.
[16:38] <jansku> sit vielä toinen juttu.. kun tonne tulee "miljoona" vaihtoehtoo (oikeesti kuus), niin mistä tiedän, mikä noista ohjaimista on se, mikä tohon olis oikee? https://gyazo.com/38802bdee257784bbf610a54d212f681
[16:39] <Thaurwylth> Aaa juu, nuo ekat vaihtoehdot riippuvat siun järjestelmästä. Eli --
[16:39] <Thaurwylth> Pitää periaatteessa tietää, onko kone 32-b vai 64-b, ja jos se on 64-b, onko siihen kuitenkin asennettu 32-b käyttis - käänteinen vaihtoehto ei ole mahdollinen.
[16:40] <jansku> tää on varmaan 32 (eiks se oo yleisempi)
[16:40] <jansku> tai mistä sen saa tietää?
[16:41] <Thaurwylth> Aaaa, nuo ovat suoraan DEB-paketteja. 32-b on nykyään harvinainen pöytäkonekäytössä, koska 32-b laitteessa ei voi olla kuin noin 3,5 GB muistia käyttäjän prosesseihin allokoituna. Mutta mobiililaitteet ovat monesti 32-b nykyään.
[16:41] <Thaurwylth> Tuosta DEB-pakettihommasta vielä. Tuo vihjaa vähän siihen, että tuo voisi olla saatavilla myös Apt-pakettihallinnan kautta. Joku muu osaa ehkä neuvoa sen osalta paremmin.
[16:41] <jansku> eli todennäkösemmin tässä on 64b?
[16:42] <Thaurwylth> Eeeen uskalla sanoa. Mistäköhän sen saikaan selville? Vittu ei näitä muista koskaan, kun tulee kohdalle.
[16:42] <jansku> :D
[16:42] <Thaurwylth> Varmaan Googleen "check system 32 or 64 bit". Miun pitää nyt tästä mennä, pitää siivoilla kämppää ja pakata tavaroita.
[16:42] <jansku> jos ei joka päivä käytä, niin voi olla, ettei just sillon osaa sanoa
[16:42] <jansku> ok
[16:42] <jansku> hyvät jatkot ja kiitti
[16:43] <Thaurwylth> Tosiaan jos joudut itse käsin lataamaan DEB-paketin omalle koneelle, niin sitten pitää opetella vielä erikseen käyttämään sitä manageria, muistaakseni sen nimi on DPKG-jotain, öööh?
[16:50] <mjr> "uname -m" terminaalissa kertoo arkkitehtuurin, x86_64 on 64-bittinen
[16:51] <mjr> sitten otat amd64.deb:in, muuten i386.deb:n
[16:53] <kirvesAxe> kannattais ehkä tarkistaa vielä se että löytyykö moinen esim synapticilla suoraan, huomattavasti helpompaa kuin opetella dpkg:n käyttö? ;)
[16:54] <mjr> en tiiä onko se todennäköistä tommoselta suljetulta ajuripaketilta että löytyis suoraan
[16:54] <kirvesAxe> no se
[16:54] <kirvesAxe> Mut josko sille ois joku tehny vähemmän suljetun...
[16:55] <kirvesAxe> (tosin sit CUPS ois varmaan jo hoitanu asian ite)
[16:55] <jansku> uname -m anto vastaukseks i686
[16:56] <jansku> tai onko tuo nyt vastaus, mut se tuli siihen kun ton kirjotin
[16:56] <mjr> okei, sitten sulla on 32-bittinen systeemi ja laitat sen paketin joka loppuu i386.deb
[16:56] <tale> jansku: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-XP-225_Series
[16:59] <jansku> nyt alkoi lyyti kirjottaa.. okei, ainakin tämä alkoi asentamaan ajuria
[17:00] <Thaurwylth> 18:54:12 mjr > en tiiä onko se todennäköistä tommoselta suljetulta ajuripaketilta että <== Onko nykyään vielä olemassa käsite Multiverse ja mitä kaikkea se sisältää?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.698496
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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"Thaurwylth",
"jansku",
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"mjr",
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-unity
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[09:48] <tsdgeos> merge \o/
[09:49] <Guest42341> what?
[10:00] <tsdgeos> all the conflicts :D
[10:10] <Guest42341> :D
[11:29] <tsdgeos> mzanetti-: CI has the same problem i do https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity8-vivid-amd64-ci/1260/console
[11:29] <tsdgeos> libunity-api-dev_7.101+15.04.20151021-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[11:29] <mzanetti-> tsdgeos, I would think it might take a little while until the package shows up in x...
[11:29] <tsdgeos> mzanetti-: that's not xenial, it's vivid
[11:30] <mzanetti-> oh
[11:30] <mzanetti-> well, I did an apt-get update & upgrade and it installed the new lib
[11:30] <tsdgeos> ok
[11:30] <mzanetti-> had building issues before that too. already tried a rebuild?
[11:30] <tsdgeos> want me to retrigger the build?
[11:30] <mzanetti-> I'd try that first
[11:30] <mzanetti-> yes
[11:31] <tsdgeos> let's see
[11:33] <tsdgeos> ah, no need, you had made 2 commits more and it's already building :)
[12:07] <dandrader> new release \o/
[12:07] <dandrader> and new conflicts with existing MPs :/
[13:06] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, hey, can you re-approve the ones I merged?
[13:09] <ultrapie> wow the latest unity8 broke everything
[13:10] <mzanetti> ultrapie, ?
[13:10] <ultrapie> dash is empty, wrong gu
[13:10] <mzanetti> dandrader, by "wrong" I mean that there is a shadow appearing and then there's nothing coming in from the edge... not wrong from code point of view, but from a design point of view.
[13:11] <ultrapie> all the qml apps are broken
[13:11] <mzanetti> dandrader, I'll try to chase a designer
[13:11] <mzanetti> ultrapie, works for me
[13:12] <dandrader> mzanetti, what do you mean by "nothing coming in from the edge"?
[13:13] <dandrader> mzanetti, you expect the tip of the Launcher to start showing up while you're pushing against the edge?
[13:13] <mzanetti> dandrader, well, given that there is a dropshadow going over the full edge, from top to bottom, it would suggest that an element of that size is coming in
[13:13] <mzanetti> dandrader, that's ok for the left edge, because the launcher actually is of that size
[13:13] <mzanetti> but it looks wrong on the right edge, given the spread that comes in is only a third of the screen size
[13:14] <mzanetti> the dropshadow gets bigger and bigger, and by the time the spread comes in it just disappears into nowwhere...
[13:14] <dandrader> mzanetti, the the spread thakes the entire screen (it blurs it all). and, besides, the whole right edge is active for the edge barrier detection
[13:14] <mzanetti> but the blur doesn't come in from the right
[13:15] <mzanetti> anyways, nothing wrong with your implementation. It's really a design thing
[13:15] <mzanetti> will discuss it with them and come back to you
[13:16] <dandrader> mzanetti, JohnLea told me just to mimic unity7
[13:16] <mzanetti> just still haven't managed to catch one, even though I started pinging 4 hours ago
[13:16] <mzanetti> dandrader, again, that's fine for the left edge... but there is no such thing on the right edge
[13:16] <mzanetti> in unity7
[13:16] <dandrader> mzanetti, btw, he's active on IRC, just talked to him minutes ago.
[13:18] <ultrapie> mzanetti: unity8-dash.log > dash.qml:36 Refference error: window is not defined
[13:18] <ultrapie> mzanetti: unity8-dash.log > dash.qml:265 Refference error: scopeStyle is not defined
[13:34] <ltinkl> ultrapie, on the phone?
[13:34] * ltinkl seen that error too
[13:36] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i was waiting for CI to run
[13:37] <tsdgeos> scopeStyle "is fine"
[13:37] <tsdgeos> been there for like 3 million years
[13:37] <tsdgeos> window is a bit more scary i'd say
[13:38] <ultrapie> ltinkl: desktop
[13:38] <ultrapie> ltinkl: 16.04 with unity8 desktop mir session
[13:39] <ltinkl> ultrapie, ok, logout/login again
[13:39] <ltinkl> ultrapie, that fixed it for me
[13:39] <ultrapie> let's see :D
[13:39] <ultrapie> thanks
[13:40] <ultrapie> ltinkl: nope, still the same
[13:41] <ltinkl> :/
[14:01] <ultrapie> mzanetti: unity8-dash.log > ... createCardComponent 70:37: QML CroppedImageMinimumSourceSize: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/ubuntu
[14:27] <guest123124> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1513852
[21:14] <mterry> josharenson, top-approved! :)
[21:15] <josharenson> mterry: woo hoo!
[21:15] <josharenson> mterry: it passed?
[21:15] <mterry> josharenson, all except some weird xenial autopilot issue
[21:15] <mterry> josharenson, but that didn't even get to the point of running tests, seemed borked
[21:15] <josharenson> mterry: cool (sorta)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.703940
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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"dandrader",
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"mzanetti-",
"tsdgeos",
"ultrapie"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
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2015-11-06-#ubuntustudio
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[06:39] <roy__> hello users
[06:39] <roy__> I am a ubuntustudio user.
[07:18] <roy__> I have messed up the default desktop environment. Can anyone tell me how to reset to the default ubuntustudio DE? Any help shall be appreciated
[16:06] <roy__> anybody there?
[16:07] <roy__> I have accidentally removed ubuntustudio packages from my installation & the OS has become bare UBUNTU 14.04
[16:07] <roy__> any way to recover ubuntustudio to its original state
[16:23] <dbolton> I'm having trouble finding Terminal in my installation of Ubuntu Studio
[16:24] <dbolton> I don't see it in the Applications menu
[16:24] <dbolton> I don't see it if I type Terminal in the Application Finder
[16:24] <dbolton> But Ubuntu Software Center says "Terminal Emulator" is installed
[16:25] <dbolton> Using Ubuntu 14.04
[16:30] <dbolton> Nevermind. I found it by going to the menu editor
[17:04] <roy__> click ALT+F2
[17:04] <roy__> write "Terminal"
[17:04] <roy__> press the down arrow key
[17:04] <roy__> & you are good to go
[17:56] <roy__> kindly share the software repository link of ubuntu studio. I accidentaly deleted it from the software sources in UPDATE center
[17:57] <roy__> sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:32] <pikurasa> My Jack Server is not being found. I think it has something to do with permissions (I opened xfce as superuser when I ran into other problem). I have found that reinstalling software corrects any permission problems that I have. I have tried reinstalling many things associated with the JACK server, but do not seem to be able to find the right package. Is there a meta-package I can reinstall and get JACK going again? Thanks!
[21:33] <pikurasa> Output when starting Audacity from terminal (as an example): ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
[21:33] <pikurasa> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
[21:33] <pikurasa> ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
[21:33] <pikurasa> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
[21:33] <pikurasa> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
[21:33] <pikurasa> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
[21:33] <pikurasa> bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
[21:33] <pikurasa> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[21:33] <pikurasa> Cannot connect to server request channel
[21:33] <pikurasa> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[21:33] <pikurasa> no more csLADSPA plugins
[21:33] <pikurasa> Expression 'stream->playback.pcm' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 4611
[21:33] <pikurasa> Expression 'stream->playback.pcm' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 4611
[21:33] <pikurasa> Expression 'stream->playback.pcm' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 4611
[21:33] <pikurasa> Expression 'stream->playback.pcm' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 4611
[23:20] <pikurasa> Okay. I need to go now, but thanks.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.709010
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"dbolton",
"pikurasa",
"roy__"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-tw
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[14:06] <ms_> 哦
[14:06] <ms_> 这里才是中文的呀
[14:06] <ms_> 哈哈
[20:36] <rypervenche> 有人嗎？
[22:28] <OMGOMG> 嗯
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.711414
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"OMGOMG",
"ms_",
"rypervenche"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-tw.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tw"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[10:21] <rmg51> Morning
[13:19] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.711956
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"rmg51",
"teddy-dbear"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-news
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[02:31] <pleia2> unsuccessful attempt to was made to get the community team at canonical to write up a summary for UOS (they tried, but kept just giving me wall of links), so I added the key links and hopefully someone here can find some time to add a few details around those particular sessions
[02:48] <Unit193> Wow.
[02:49] <pleia2> Unit193: volunteering? :D
[02:49] <Unit193> You know me and words, they don't work together. :3
[02:50] <Unit193> (Sister got all the skills there.)
[02:50] <pleia2> can she do it?
[02:50] <pleia2> :)
[02:50] <Unit193> Hah, she has the ability, she's an editor at a paper. But alas, she doesn't use Linux.
[02:50] <pleia2> fair enough
[09:41] <PaulW2U> pleia2: thanks to some really poor UK weather I found some time to write those summaries for you
[09:44] * PaulW2U wanders off
[17:30] <pleia2> PaulW2U: woo, [D[Dbad weather!
[17:45] <pleia2> PaulW2U: thanks, these are perfect :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:21.713741
| 2015-11-06T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"PaulW2U",
"Unit193",
"pleia2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/%23ubuntu-news.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
}
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-gr
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[11:14] <xeirwn> kalimera paides
[11:19] <ee2455> Γειαααα...
[11:21] <xeirwn> kai pws eipame kanoume ton xrono ekinisis sto linux oso to dunaton kontitero ?
[11:25] <kerato> xeirwn : paliotera me to init ypirxan diaforoi tropoi
[11:25] <kerato> http://www.howtogeek.com/69753/how-to-cut-your-linux-pcs-boot-time-in-half-with-e4rat/ p.x.
[11:25] <kerato> twra ola afta ta xei katapiei to systemd
[11:25] <kerato> kai den to exw psaksei gia na eimai eilikrinhs
[11:26] <kerato> psaxnontas vlepw ayto https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Improve_boot_performance
[11:30] <xeirwn> miso na to koitaksw
[11:31] <xeirwn> kapou phre to mati mou gia xrono ekinisis 4.5sec....... einai dunaton ?
[11:35] <kerato> e nai alla me custom kernel
[11:35] <kerato> kai ligotero ginetai
[11:36] <kerato> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWFy1RWSUts
[11:39] <xeirwn> thx kerato :-)....an mporousa kai me 10 na to ekana , 8a hmouna polu euxaristimenos
[11:39] <kerato> pare enan ssd
[11:40] <xeirwn> ssd exei...alla den
[11:40] <xeirwn> argei arketa
[11:41] <ee2455> xeirwn: Πόσο χρόνο θέλει για να μπουτάρει το σύστημά σου;
[11:41] <xeirwn> upirxe mia command palaiotera , alla gmto den thn 8umamai.........ee2455 gurw sta 40sec
[11:41] <xeirwn> mporei kai parapanw
[11:43] <xeirwn> se esas poso boottime kanei ?
[11:47] <ee2455> xeirwn: 40 sec δεν είναι τραγικός χρόνος. Ψιλο-νορμάλ θα έλεγα... Στη θέση σου θα ασχολούμουν με τίποτα άλλο. Εκτός αν το κάνεις «για να γουστάρεις» :-)
[11:48] <xeirwn> den exeis adiko se auto, an skeftw ton xrono pou h8ela sta windows , pou htan o diplasios....alla to oti to goustarw to skalisma ki auto alh8eia einai ;-)
[12:06] <xeirwn> xmmmm.....to skalisma boi8aei sthn gnwsh ;)
[12:44] <xeirwn> brhka auto edw.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwBoHZuauL8
[12:52] <kerato> den exei sxesh me to boot auto
[13:55] <xeirwn> sorry....eixa episkepseis....den exei sxesi ?
[15:25] <themhz> re paidia otan anoigw 5 parathira folder kai doulevw se ena, pataw ksana sta fakelakia pou ta exei omadopoieisei kai mou ta emfanizei ola to ena dipla sto allo. Omws otan epileksw afto pou thelw epistrefei sto proigoumeno san na mhn kanei click .. exei kaneis paromoio thema?
[20:50] <Tasos> για να κάνεις εγκατάταση μια εφαρμογή από τον χρήστη root σε όλους του χρήστες ;
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-community-team
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[02:12] <mhall119> pleia2: I've updated the prep document with links to all the UOS sessions
[02:16] <mhall119> just titles and links
[02:22] <pleia2> mhall119: thanks, I'll see what I can do with that
[02:22] <pleia2> the links can't be embedded like that, since we copy it into a wiki
[02:22] <pleia2> the first three links are the key bits that we needed, I'll find someone to write a summary
[02:23] <pleia2> probably best just to link to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/all/ for the rest
[03:15] <mhall119> pleia2: would something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13121219/ work for you?
[03:23] <pleia2> mhall119: no, it's still too many links, I really just wanted a simple summary of the key sections and then a link to all the sources
[03:24] <pleia2> and fwiw wiki syntax wise, we don't embed links even in wiki syntax, if you look at past newsletters all the links are bare because we export it to a bunch of different formats
[03:25] <pleia2> mhall119: I put a skeleton in the doc with an idea of what we need
[03:26] <mhall119> pleia2: gotcha
[03:38] <mhall119> pleia2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13121423/ will produce http://paste.ubuntu.com/13121443/
[03:38] <mhall119> for any event in summit
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[08:28] <popey> morning!
[08:28] <dholbach> hey popey
[08:28] <popey> heya
[08:28] <popey> \o/ friday
[08:29] <dholbach> popey, do you already know what "improve ubuntuonair, get proposal" is going to be about=?
[08:29] <popey> hah
[08:29] <popey> you stopped typing part way through?
[08:30] <popey> dpm said we need to write a proposal (mike is assigned to that bit) for improving UOA
[08:31] <dholbach> no, I just read the notes - I didn't want to watch the entire session :)
[08:32] <popey> ah
[09:03] <dholbach> hey hey davidcalle
[09:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, o/
[09:04] <dholbach> davidcalle, can we maybe land the link-fixing MP and then look at the update later on? :)
[09:05] <davidcalle> dholbach, +1
[09:05] <dholbach> cool
[09:12] <popey> hey hey
[09:12] <popey> morning davidcalle
[09:25] <davidcalle> morning popey o/
[09:25] <davidcalle> dholbach, hmm, you have based your link fixing branch on the django upgrade branch?
[09:26] <dholbach> davidcalle, not that I know of
[09:27] <davidcalle> dholbach, yeah, apparently not, not sure what's going on with my setup... /me tries again
[09:33] <davidcalle> dholbach, can you pull a fresh version of lp:~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/1511676 and run make dev on it?
[09:33] <dholbach> sure
[09:35] <dholbach> davidcalle, it works for me?
[09:35] <davidcalle> dholbach, humpf
[09:36] <dholbach> I started with lp:developer-ubuntu-com - merged lp:~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/1511676 just to be sure that there's no other crazy changes from the upgrade branch or anything, then ran 'make dev', then 'make run'
[09:36] <dholbach> ... which only failed because I use port 8000 locally already
[09:36] <dholbach> davidcalle, ^
[09:39] <davidcalle> dholbach, it works now, this was weird, maybe a dep not downloading
[09:39] <davidcalle> dholbach, thanks :)
[09:40] <dholbach> no worries - I'm glad I for once didn't break anything :-P
[09:45] <davidcalle> dholbach, link parsing is spot on, +1
[09:45] <dholbach> <3
[09:46] * davidcalle merges
[09:47] <davidcalle> dholbach, merged
[09:47] <dholbach> awesome, thanks a lot! :)
[09:48] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:48] <davidcalle> dholbach, today I'll probably be mostly on finishing the snappy/raspi2 page, but I'm open for reviews and testing :)
[09:48] <davidcalle> czajkowski, o/
[09:49] <dholbach> davidcalle, at least we should have a meeting and talk about how we want to land the upgrade - I'm going to need help with this
[09:50] <dholbach> I'll for now just focus on getting the importer working with the upgrade, because it doesn't :/
[09:50] <davidcalle> dholbach, can you do a ho around lunch time?
[09:51] <dholbach> I have a call at 14:00, so I was actually planning to run out at 12:00 for lunch - which time did you have in mind?
[09:52] <davidcalle> dholbach, between 12 and 14 :) But it can be later in the afternoon if that works for you
[09:53] <dholbach> sure
[09:53] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok
[09:53] <dholbach> thanks :)
[09:53] <dholbach> that gives me a bit more time to look into this
[10:31] <popey> Tethering ftw
[10:32] <czajkowski> indeed I am loving Three these days since I moved from Vodafone
[10:41] <popey> tethering when you only have 1GB/mo really changes the way you use the internet
[10:41] <popey> an app I'm building now pulls down 60MB every time I build it, normally I'd just build it over and over
[10:41] <popey> now I'm being really careful about how I build it
[10:42] <popey> as I watch my phone dashboard amount left go down and down
[10:43] <czajkowski> nods
[10:43] <czajkowski> I had to change for Three for better roaming in the US as there so often
[10:43] <czajkowski> and for 25 quid a month I am unlimited data
[10:43] <czajkowski> which is very handy when I travel
[10:44] <dholbach> when I was on tethering, I started using squid-deb-proxy locally, since snapcraft pulled in dependencies in lots of builds :)
[10:52] <dholbach> all right.... lunch time
[11:02] <popey> wise!
[12:39] <dpm> dholbach, popey, davidcalle, any thoughts on what to put on the weekly summary today?
[12:40] <dpm> i.e. I think this week we've got enough content already with UOS :-)
[12:40] <dpm> perhaps a link to the track summaries doc?
[12:40] <popey> Didn't you send one last week?
[12:40] <popey> So do one next week and we have UOS + next week content
[12:41] <dpm> yeah, we didn't really establish that they'd be biweekly. It was sort of accidental in that for one reason or another it was every other week. Happy to go with the suggestion
[12:42] <popey> I prefer biweekly tbh
[12:48] <dholbach> biweekly works for me too - I'm happy either way
[12:52] <dpm> ok, wfm
[15:18] <dholbach> mhall119, davidcalle: do you guys have a bit of time now?
[15:22] <mhall119> dholbach: for the docs importer?
[15:22] <dholbach> django/django cms upgrade/docs importer
[15:23] <mhall119> sure
[15:24] <dholbach> cool, I'll set up a hangout
[15:24] <mhall119> dholbach: give me 2 minutes and I'll be there
[15:24] <dholbach> sure sure
[15:24] <dholbach> mhall119, davidcalle: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/kjkdjvgtobpei3j4tlbziztveaa
[16:25] * davidcalle drives home, have a nice weekend o/
[16:38] <dholbach> all rightie - I'm calling it a day as well
[16:38] <dholbach> have a great weekend everyone
[17:35] <mhall119> jose: ping
[21:13] <mhall119> jose: when you have a minute, I just need to confirm you UbuCon@FOSSETCON talk title and time
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-hr
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[00:35] <jelly> http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/business/2015/11/05/net-of-insecurity-the-kernel-of-the-argument/
[07:23] <dodobas> yutro
[08:27] <BotaniCar> Kakvo ugodno jutro, 228 celzijanera u Umagu ( https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12189776_10153585661903046_474335785262379464_n.jpg?oh=30940219534a00e823e22af682b15635&oe=56CBC99D )
[08:28] <BotaniCar> jelly: ako nije kasno, ja bi +1 vrecicu mandarina ( zbirno 3 za mene )
[08:33] <hbogner> o/
[08:37] <BotaniCar> Why is sand called sand ? https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-0/q81/s600x600/12190071_818188618293328_1393138372809041020_n.jpg?oh=151ea99350ce81ef448d1e0400d3d789&oe=56AF702A
[08:40] <weshmashian> mornin'
[08:41] <Mmike> weshmashian: oooo
[08:41] <weshmashian> e, jel' neko cuo/koristio/imao iskustava sa talentarium.hr?
[08:41] <Mmike> weshmashian: jutarnja? :)
[08:41] <weshmashian> Mmike: ae, vec neko vrijeme :)
[08:42] <Mmike> weshmashian: eeee :) i?
[08:42] <Mmike> talentarium,hr, to je od Powera, jelda?
[08:44] <weshmashian> neam pojma :)
[08:45] <weshmashian> Member of the board: Ivan Marković, director
[08:45] <weshmashian> pa ak je to on, onda da, ako ne, neznaaaam :)
[08:45] <Mmike> yup, to je on :)
[08:46] <Mmike> weshmashian: kaj, muvas on? :)
[08:46] <weshmashian> Mmike: jok, zanima me dal' neko ima iskustva s njihovim headhuntanjem
[08:47] <Mmike> nope, sorry
[08:58] <Mmike> obrut: jelly, vi ste perl dase
[08:58] <Mmike> jel' znate za neki interaktivni debugger za perl?
[08:58] <dodobas> Mmike: Python ? :)
[08:59] <Mmike> ne, perl
[09:00] <dodobas> pa sto ne prepises u Pythonu pa onda debugiras :)
[09:07] <jelly> Mmike: osim perl -d ...?
[09:08] <Mmike> dodobas: osh ti prepisat, soma kuna ti platim?
[09:10] <weshmashian> from * import *? :)
[09:11] <dodobas> Mmike: koliko linija perla ?
[09:13] <Mmike> dodobas: oko 30k
[09:14] <dodobas> dakle soma kuna po liniji, to bi cak moglo biti dovoljno ...
[09:15] <BotaniCar> https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/11/passwords_by_ma.html
[09:17] <Mmike> dodobas: nisam nit mislio :)
[09:17] <Mmike> dodobas: da ti netko da pol kune po svakom prokenju, sad bi i ti i ja bili bogati :)
[09:18] <BotaniCar> Mogu ja dobit' neku paru jer vi kenjuckate ? Treba mi .. za mandarine :)
[09:25] <Mmike> mrzim perl
[09:25] <Mmike> mrzim ga
[09:26] <Mmike> jebnote usranog jezika za popizdit nac nesto
[09:30] <jelly> BotaniCar: pisem, trebalo bi ici
[09:31] <BotaniCar> jelly: thx
[09:32] <dodobas> Mmike: pa posalji problem upstream :)
[09:34] <Mmike> e nesh vise ti hamburgera jest samnom, nesh!
[09:36] <dodobas> nesh ni ti uzivat u mom ugodnom drustvu, nesh!
[09:38] <dodobas> a ja sam za jest hamburgere i tako vec osigurao malo bolje cice... za gledat !
[09:44] <Mmike> ne vjerujem ti
[09:45] <BotaniCar> Bolje cice od mmiketovih ? Jedino ako su zenske, a i onda je dvojbeno.
[09:45] <BotaniCar> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1056693297674165&set=a.491380170872150.119693.100000005151916&type=3
[09:46] <dodobas> BotaniCar: a naravno da jesu
[09:47] <BotaniCar> dodobas: uopce nisi gay
[09:57] <dodobas> BotaniCar: ma jesam, nemas brige ...
[09:58] <BotaniCar> *phew* inace imam posla samo s inline rolerima i nepatvorenim pederima, pa da mi ne narusis prosjek ! :)
[10:00] <Mmike> obrut: ($$$$) kao parametri funkcije znaci da ih moze bit arbitrarno ?
[10:00] <Mmike> arbitrarno :D
[10:06] <ivoks> Mmike: http://www.amazon.de/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_dndlpen_iden/?nodeId=505016
[10:06] <ivoks> tebe covjek treba za ruku voditi
[10:06] <Mmike> if ( /\@$plat/ )
[10:06] <Mmike> {
[10:06] <Mmike> /^\s*(\S+)\s*\@$plat.*:\s*(.*?)\s*$/ ;
[10:06] <Mmike> $disabled{$1}= $2 if not exists $disabled{$1};
[10:06] <Mmike> }
[10:06] <Mmike> jebem ti perl, da ti jebem perl
[10:07] <Mmike> da ti jebem perl
[10:07] <Mmike> ivoks: e, i? kaj dalje?
[10:07] <Mmike> imam 'contact our carriers'
[10:07] <BotaniCar> Jel se skolska naobrazba ( O.Š. / S.Š. ) stecena u Dubaiu priznaje kod nas ?
[10:07] <ivoks> odes na svoje ordere
[10:07] <ivoks> https://www.amazon.de/gp/css/order-history?ie=UTF8&ref_=yo_mob_des&
[10:07] <Mmike> ok, i onda?
[10:08] <ivoks> sta ti pise za stanje tvoje narudzbe?
[10:08] <Mmike> "Dispatched", zelenim slovima
[10:09] <ivoks> eto, nije delivered
[10:09] <ivoks> znaci znaju da ti ja paket u prometu
[10:09] <Mmike> i kak da pitam di je kaj je?
[10:09] <ivoks> dok je u stanju dispatched, imas opciju track package ili nesto takvo
[10:09] <ivoks> i samo onda mozes postaviti pitanje kome je poslano
[10:10] <ivoks> uvijek mozes kontaktirati i reselera
[10:10] <Mmike> http://splivalo.hr/m/amazon-myorder.png
[10:10] <Mmike> di imam taj track package?
[10:10] <ivoks> order details
[10:10] <ivoks> to ti je cak amazon poslao
[10:11] <Mmike> pod 'order details' imam samo broj kartice moje, slicicu mastercarda, i izracun cijene - artikal + postarina + porez = ukupno
[10:11] <Mmike> nist drugo
[10:11] <ivoks> za to im cak mozes poslati mail direktno
[10:11] <Mmike> di? na koji mail?
[10:11] <ivoks> https://www.amazon.de/gp/help/contact-us/general-question.html
[10:12] <ivoks> mozes ih i nazvati
[10:12] <ivoks> tj., oni ce tebe nazvati
[10:12] <Mmike> ivoks:
[10:12] <Mmike> pa
[10:13] <Mmike> cek :)
[10:13] <ivoks> odi na https:////www.amazon.de/gp/help/contact-us/general-question.html
[10:13] <ivoks> odi na https://www.amazon.de/gp/help/contact-us/general-question.html
[10:13] <ivoks> tamo odaberi narudzbu
[10:13] <Mmike> KAK JA TO NISAM MOGO NAC?!
[10:13] <Mmike> ivoks: da, jesam, zvalo me, sad cekam
[10:13] <ivoks> pa us 'tell us more about your issue' 'where's my stuff'
[10:13] <ivoks> ok
[10:13] <ivoks> nisi mogao naci jer si Mmike
[10:17] <Mmike> di si iti nasao taj url?
[10:19] <Mmike> ivoks: hvala! :D
[10:19] <BotaniCar> U Pekingu pao prvi snijeg
[10:19] <Mmike> ivoks: daklem, izgleda da je zajeb bio sto sam, kad sam pred 101 godinu otvorio amazon.com account (za kindle i to), unio adresu sa slovom SH, a u amazonnu se to zapisalo kao A s kruzicem ili tak neki drek
[10:19] <Mmike> medjutim to sam promijenio kad sam pisao delivery address
[10:19] <Mmike> i pise mi u orderu 'antuna soljana' (jer ne podrzavaju nasa slova)
[10:20] <Mmike> medjutim, veli lik, izgleda da je ostalo to A sa kruzicem pa valjda zato nije isporuceno
[10:20] <Mmike> ugl, ispravio je adresu, napravio novi order, trebalo bi doc za 10 dana
[10:20] <Mmike> ivoks: thnx jos jednom
[10:21] <Mmike> ivoks: jos kad bi mi rekao di si nasao taj URL, jer ja nisam to uspio naci, a pol amazona sam proklikaoi
[10:21] <ivoks> Mmike: otisao sam na guugle
[10:21] <ivoks> google
[10:22] <ivoks> i upisao 'amazon contact'
[10:22] <ivoks> i stisnuo enter
[10:22] <Mmike> :D
[10:22] <Mmike> jbg
[10:22] <ivoks> onda sam uzeo misa
[10:22] <ivoks> u desnu ruku
[10:22] <Mmike> to mi nije palo na pamet
[10:22] <ivoks> al mozes i s lijevom
[10:22] <Mmike> tko mi kriv kad na amazon.com gledam :)
[10:22] <Mmike> ivoks: duzan pivce! :)
[10:22] <ivoks> jesu ti rekli sta?
[10:22] <Mmike> da, zvao me lik nazad
[10:22] <Mmike> napravio novi order
[10:22] <Mmike> i poslat ce ponovo
[10:22] <Mmike> i pojavio mi se novi order sad u 'my orders'
[10:23] <ivoks> eto vidis
[10:23] <ivoks> salji si ubrzanom metodom
[10:23] <ivoks> ne radi amazona, vec radi nasih panjeva
[10:23] <ivoks> onda ce te i zvati i pitati kad si doma
[10:23] <ivoks> i jel ti i kavu jos moze donijeti
[10:23] <ivoks> Falls Sie Ihre Spracheinstellungen versehentlich geändert haben, gehen sie auf Spracheinstellungen ändern unter Mein Konto um sie auf Deutsch zurückzustellen.
[10:23] <ivoks> a?
[10:25] <Mmike> Natuerlich! :)
[10:33] <Mmike> da, nigdje na amazonu nema kontakta
[10:36] <dodobas> koji je ono ok sajt za skinut koji ebook
[10:39] <Mmike> to bi i ja tijo znat :(
[10:43] <pkiller> ivoks: kaže da ako si slučajno promijenio jezik možeš ga vratiti na njemački u postavkama
[10:43] <jelly> sve sto sam razumio je Konto
[10:45] <ivoks> o majku mu
[10:45] <ivoks> dobijem SMS:
[10:45] <pkiller> eto prednosti kad pričaš više jezika :)
[10:45] <ivoks> 'Postovani, nedjelja 08. studenti je RADNI DAN. Idemo delati!'
[10:46] <pkiller> džizs krajst i ti jebeni izbori
[10:46] <pkiller> vrijeme kada se sjetiš da postoji sms marketing :)
[10:47] <jelly> samo znam da cu glasati niti za hdz niti za sdp, nego za nekog treceg
[10:47] <pkiller> jel šalju sa amazon.de u hrvatsku?
[10:48] <jelly> also: niti za bandica ;-)
[10:48] <pkiller> jelly: kad će doći vrijeme u hrvatskoj da se glasa za nekoga a ne protiv nekoga :)
[10:48] <hbogner> jelly, markicka?
[10:48] <hbogner> :D
[10:48] <jelly> moze
[10:48] <jelly> s njom znam na cemu sam!
[10:49] <pkiller> jelly: ako zbog takvih kao ti se razvodne glasovi i dobije HDZ nemoj mi poslije plakat :)
[10:49] <jelly> pkiller: nek dobije, sdp si je sam kriv zbog toga
[10:51] <pkiller> ja sam za totalitarnu vlast ili monarhiju tako da samo teoretiziram... gledam iz vana. nemam nikakvih preferencija.
[10:52] <pkiller> ali vidim da svi samo seru po trenutnoj vlasti, i to im je jedini argument. A gledano psihološki, nesigurni ljudi bez argumenata napadaju uspješne da bi sebe uzdigli
[10:54] <pkiller> nitko nema nešto za koga bi ja recimo fanatično propagirao neku ideologiju... svi su više manje šuplji i prozirni... nemaju nikakvih konkretnih ideja ni riješenja. A riješenja koja predlažu su toliko nerealna da se čak i mediji sprdaju sa njima
[10:55] <pkiller> a ne pomaže ni AdSense kada je slika karamarka u njemu :)
[10:56] <pkiller> nego jel naručujete u hrvatsku sa amazon.de? i jel vam stiže roba?
[10:56] <Mmike> pkiller: to je neka sala sad? :)
[10:57] <pkiller> Mmike: pa vidim da se mučiš pa ono... :)
[10:57] <Mmike> :P
[10:57] <Mmike> ti si neki dodobasov kompa? :)
[10:57] <jelly> roba ili "roba"??
[10:58] <pkiller> jelly: roba :)
[10:58] <pkiller> za "robu" nema potrebe preko interneta :)
[10:58] <pkiller> ma gle ti amazona
[10:58] <pkiller> http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/3770438906?ref_=pd_ys_ir_all_fb_1
[10:59] <pkiller> recomended for you
[10:59] <pkiller> trip on memory lane... to imam negdje na tavanu na francuskom od prije 25 godina. kako to zna Amazon?
[11:00] <jelly> kak ne bi znao
[11:02] <pkiller> trazim La divina comedia na originalnom talijanskom
[11:02] <pkiller> ako netko zna di bi to mogao kupit/nac
[11:05] <jelly> projekt gutenberg?
[11:08] <pkiller> necu ja to citat na kompu
[11:08] <pkiller> a nemam e-reader... bar dok ne pojeftini onaj A4 od sony-a :)
[11:12] <pkiller> http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/show-digitalpaper/resource.solutions.bbsccms-assets-show-digitalpaper-digitalpaper.shtml?PID=I:digitalpaper:digitalpaper
[11:13] <BotaniCar> ... VMware preporučuje instalaciju open-vm-toolsa ...
[11:16] <Mmike> srce ti
[11:16] <Mmike> spalim
[11:18] <dodobas> Mmike: otvori prozor... malo svjezeg zraka, srčeko :)
[11:18] <Mmike> dodobas: s tobom ne pricam, ti ne samo da me zajebavas nego u tome i uzivas!
[11:19] <hbogner> Mmike, kad se daz zajebavat :D
[11:20] <dodobas> Mmike: ja sam tvoje spasenje :)
[11:20] <Mmike> propo mi rucalk :(
[11:20] <Mmike> dodobas: jesi za hambac? :D
[11:20] <dodobas> :D :D
[11:20] <hbogner> ha ha ha
[11:20] <dodobas> Mmike: ne stignem danas
[11:20] <Mmike> weshmashian: jesl' tu ili sastancis?
[11:33] <BotaniCar> Dakle, definicija romanticnog vikenda je: ono kad spavas koliko ti je volja, u hotelu, a jedini prekidi su seks i klopa !
[11:37] <dodobas> prije... zena je otisla na more, a ja konacno mogu zavrsti ono sto sam poceo prije 10 dana ...
[11:38] <BotaniCar> Ako zena ode na more nema seksa ( koji smijes priznati ) !
[11:41] <ivoks> ja cu glasati za hrvatsku stranku reda
[11:41] <ivoks> nikad cuo za njih, ali imaju cool ime
[11:41] <ivoks> HRVATSKA ZORA STRANKA NARODA
[11:42] <ivoks> ovi bi vodili drzavu, a ne znaju ni ime stranke sloziti
[11:42] <ivoks> http://www.hrvatska-stranka-reda.hr/index.html
[11:42] <ivoks> masala
[11:43] <ivoks> web nisu mijenjali od '91.
[11:43] <pkiller> ja bi osnovao Stranku Internetskih Korisnika :)
[11:43] <pkiller> SIK
[11:43] <pkiller> to si bar siguran da dok ne stigne online izbori.... neće nitko glasat za tebe :)
[11:43] <ivoks> UELANITE SE
[11:43] <ivoks> možete proeitati sve
[11:44] <pkiller> god bless UTF-8
[11:44] <ivoks> Hrvatska Stranka Reda ima Program
[11:48] <BotaniCar> ivoks: u kojoj si uopce izbornoj jedinici ? Kak su prelomili Zabreg na dva dijela, ja sam se nasao u i.j. koja ne nudi ni jednog od mojih favorita ..
[11:50] <Mmike> who cares?
[11:50] <Mmike> NE GLASAJ ZA SDP/HDZ
[11:50] <Mmike> the rest is not relevant
[11:51] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ni banditica, ni Onu Babu Koja Bi da Fukamo Samo Vagine, to je default.
[11:51] <ivoks> ma za nikog
[11:51] <ivoks> BotaniCar: 2.
[11:51] <BotaniCar> ivoks: onda ti je izbor sjebat koliko i meni :(
[11:51] <ivoks> zagreb je hdz podijelio jos devedesetih
[11:51] <BotaniCar> Ae
[11:52] <ivoks> https://branitelji.gov.hr/UserDocsImages//OS//MBRH_prirucnik.pdf
[11:53] <pkiller> najs
[11:53] <ivoks> U ovome priručniku koristi se distribucija
[11:53] <ivoks> Xubuntu
[11:54] <ivoks> str. 16
[11:54] <ivoks> modificirali su xubuntu
[11:54] <ivoks> stavili svoje logoe
[11:54] <BotaniCar> xfce (str.12 ) su ostavili na miru.
[11:54] <BotaniCar> Dokument je skroz korektno napisan
[11:56] <pkiller> mislim svaka čast
[11:56] <hbogner> opaa
[11:56] <pkiller> samo da ne ostane na pilot projektu
[11:57] <BotaniCar> Tko god je pisao, imao je posla s korisnicima :) Objasnjenje akcija je skroz suvislo, medju prvim su opisali kak' ubiti smrznutu aplikaciju - znaju da nitko ne cita prirucnik dok ne zasere :)
[11:58] <hbogner> to je jucer objavljeno
[11:58] <hbogner> fora
[11:59] <pkiller> definitivno je kul... ali šta oni očekuju da korisnik bude u sudoers grupi?
[12:00] <BotaniCar> A ti ocekujes ista manje ? Trenutno su im, ako se ne varam, korisnici lokalni administratori. nemo'sh obnoc nekom uzeti ovlasti, a da ti istovremeno bude sretan korisnik
[12:01] <pkiller> hehe... ja mislio Active directory i te shemie
[12:01] <pkiller> shemice
[12:01] <BotaniCar> Mozes ti biti u ADu i lokalni gazda, istovremeno :)
[12:02] <pkiller> hm... ali koliko se ja sjecam moras se "prelogirat" ili ne?
[12:03] <BotaniCar> jok, ako neki servis treba dodatne ovlasti bude ti izbacio prompt
[12:03] <BotaniCar> logiras se kao domena\korisnik, a ako zatrebas nekaj kao admin ili "run as" pa local\korisnik ili ce te sam pitati
[12:03] <pkiller> da da sad se sjecam
[12:04] <pkiller> domena vs local
[12:04] <BotaniCar> pardon korisnik@domena je aktualni standard
[12:04] <pkiller> prije je bilo domena/korisnik
[12:04] <BotaniCar> drugi slash
[12:05] <pkiller> my bad :)
[12:05] <pkiller> neznam ni di je više od kad ne koristim windowse u poslovnom okruženju
[12:05] <pkiller> \
[12:05] <pkiller> q
[12:12] <ivoks> geek level +9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
[12:12] <ivoks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9bq_alk-sw
[12:12] <datase> YouTube: SUSE. Yes Please. (Maroon 5 - Sugar parody) - 0:03:47 - 4693 views - 196 likes / 4 dislikes
[12:14] <ivoks> perverzno
[12:16] <ivoks> ne perverzno kao ovo doduse
[12:16] <ivoks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wr9oPdRE4M
[12:16] <datase> YouTube: Everything is Open Lip Sync SUSECon 2014 - 0:02:41 - 1237 views - 23 likes / 0 dislikes
[12:19] <BotaniCar> OK , sad znam kak' se SuSe izgovara :)
[12:20] <ivoks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNkDJk5_9eU
[12:20] <datase> YouTube: What Does the Chameleon Say? (Ylvis - What Does the Fox Say parody) - 0:03:31 - 270249 views - 2569 likes / 360 dislikes
[12:20] <ivoks> koji kurac je suseu? :D
[12:20] <hbogner> hmm,meni neotvara, grr
[12:20] <hbogner> aha, sad hoce
[12:21] <ivoks> nikad za suse necu raditi. nikad.
[12:22] <BotaniCar> Zakaj ? Meni je to biJo prvi linux :) I NASA ga je voljela ! :)
[12:23] <ivoks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbABy9ul11I
[12:23] <ivoks> omg
[12:23] <datase> YouTube: Uptime Funk - SUSECon 2015 (Uptown Funk Parody) - 0:04:29 - 737 views - 42 likes / 0 dislikes
[12:23] <ivoks> don't reboot it, just patch
[12:24] <pkiller> Moj prvi linux slax linux :)
[12:25] <pkiller> sorry slackware
[12:25] <BotaniCar> http://www.index.hr/images2/karamarkomilanovicjazmaj.jpg # ovo je OMG
[12:25] <pkiller> slax je poslije bio
[12:25] <pkiller> BotaniCar: tako izgleda prosječni političar u HR :)
[12:26] <BotaniCar> pkiller: oprosti, tako izgledaju lideri ! :)
[12:27] <pkiller> Ja da sam netko tko bi mogao podnijeti tu ekipu i da mogu doći na vlast, digao bi kredita što više na račun države i ne bi nikad platio
[12:28] <pkiller> šta ti mogu... i tko će ti to utjerat... kako
[12:28] <BotaniCar> Kredit na racun drzave ? Ne rade stvari bas tako :)
[12:28] <pkiller> ma ono kad ode šuker i vrati se sa kreditom
[12:28] <pkiller> :)
[12:28] <pkiller> izvukao bi državu iz krize tik tak :)
[12:31] <pkiller> http://www.24sata.hr/politika/suker-u-sad-ide-po-novi-kredit-od-2-milijarde-eura-170110
[12:33] <hbogner> meni prvi mandrake, onda slackware, pa ubuntu
[12:33] <api984> hbogner: pricas o favorite distri?
[12:33] <ivoks> debian, redhat (pod prisilom), debian, ubuntu
[12:34] <hbogner> api984, da, o distrama
[12:34] <api984> hbogner: ok
[12:34] <ivoks> a usput probao sve i svasta, od slacka do suseta
[12:34] <api984> meni: opensuse, centos, debian, antix, ubuntu, slackware
[12:34] <ivoks> oh, zaboravio sam
[12:34] <ivoks> gentoo
[12:34] <api984> ivoks: arch?
[12:34] <ivoks> gentoo sam koristio godinu dana
[12:34] <ivoks> ma kakav arch
[12:34] <pkiller> ivoks: i ja isto debian uglavnom, bilo je nešto arch linuxa i freebsd-a (znam da nije lunux)
[12:34] <api984> ivoks: sve morao compile?
[12:34] <ivoks> sve
[12:35] <ivoks> nisam morao, ali sam birao to
[12:35] <ivoks> i to sam imao na laptopu
[12:35] <api984> ivoks: time consume? velik rekao bih
[12:35] <ivoks> trenutak kada sam u francuskoj se pokusavao povezati na wifi, a za to sam morao prosjediti 45min kompajliranja necega
[12:35] <pkiller> arch sam najviše vremena gubio itina
[12:35] <pkiller> istina
[12:35] <ivoks> bio je trenutak kad sam shvatio da sam kreten
[12:35] <pkiller> BotaniCar: http://arhiva.nacional.hr/clanak/92871/vlada-digla-novi-kredit-od-750-mil-eura-a-suker-tvrdi-ovo-zaduzenje-zapravo-nije-zaduzenje
[12:35] <ivoks> skup sa svim ostalim gentoo korisnicima
[12:36] <BotaniCar> Da li bi mi navodjenje iskustva s Novellom u CV-u bilo prednost ili mana ? :D
[12:36] <ivoks> ono sto me svaki dan fascinira je - s ubuntuom nisam vise niti jednom kernel kompajlirao
[12:36] <ivoks> niti jednom
[12:36] <ivoks> jesam za posao, al ne za svoje potrebe
[12:36] <ivoks> do tad je to bila redovna praksa i sa redhatom i sa debianom
[12:37] <BotaniCar> Kelner ne, ali kojesta drugo da. Pred tjedan dana sam morao za WiFi kompajlirati driver.
[13:31] <BotaniCar> https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12193769_1068411739858996_7096881027082785152_n.jpg?oh=ee980f79930761749535fe372482ad36&oe=56B1FF72
[13:31] <Mmike> plavi: niste jos gurnuli 5.5.46 u repozitorije? pa ajde, ljudi, sta se ceka! :D
[13:32] <plavi> Mmike, petak je :) ma tko zna kad ce ti to, ako uopce...
[13:32] <hrvojem> Mmike: PXC?
[13:32] <Mmike> hrvojem: pxc
[13:33] <Mmike> glup sam, nije pxc releasana
[13:33] <Mmike> samo ps
[13:33] <Mmike> misleadao me blogpost :)
[13:36] <jelly> prolazi Tesla po tratinskoj, slajfa po tracnici
[13:36] <hbogner> jelly, jel se spojio gore na struju?
[13:37] <jelly> nije, inace bi isao sporije da bude online
[14:11] <ruthr> dd
[14:11] <ruthr> muffinko .. da cujem jesi rjesio mrezu ?
[14:13] <BotaniCar> bok, u utorak vjerojatno.
[14:14] <ruthr> ih .. a ja samo radi toga dosao sad da cujem di je bio problem
[14:14] <BotaniCar> :) Dodji poslije, prvo rjesavam prave probleme :) Ovo nije issue dok god mi jedan link radi :)
[14:15] <ruthr> a doci cu ja u utorak da cujem sto je bilo .. necu zaboravit
[14:19] <jobenty_> pozdrav
[14:20] <jobenty_> jeli netko cuo za KODI?
[14:21] <BotaniCar> Probaj postaviti pravo pitanje odmah.
[14:22] <ruthr> kodi .. to neka igracka ?
[14:24] <jobenty> a mislio sam možda netko koristi pa da mi kaže par riječi
[14:25] <jobenty> to je nešto za gledanje TV na linuxu
[14:25] <jobenty> http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_Linux
[14:25] <jobenty> http://kodi.wiki/view/Kodibuntu
[14:25] <jobenty> http://kodi.wiki/view/Linux
[14:25] <jobenty> http://kodi.tv/download/
[14:25] <jobenty> ja stvarno imam problem sa instalacijama u linuxu
[14:25] <BotaniCar> jobenty: znamo sto je, na IRCu je dobra praksa da ne uvijas nego odmah pitas sto te muci.
[14:26] <jobenty> nmam pojma što bih radio sa svim tim uputama
[14:26] <BotaniCar> ti bi samo htio instalirati kodi ? Koji linux ?
[14:27] <jobenty> mint
[14:27] <jobenty> ali hoće li to raditi ili moram najprije instalirati drivere za TV karticu
[14:28] <jobenty> Kartica je AVerMedia AVerTV Digi Super 007
[14:28] <BotaniCar> ne znam kako ide instalacija na mintu. Trebalo bi biti svejedno da li si prvo instalirao karticu ili kodi.
[14:29] <BotaniCar> Upute za "obican ubuntu 15" su prilicno jednostavne ( http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/08/install-kodi-15-1-ubuntu-15-04-14-04/ )
[14:30] <ruthr> a sto ce ti to .. upalis TV i gledas ..
[14:31] <jobenty> ruthr: pa to mi je TV
[14:31] <jobenty> bio dok sam bio na windowsima
[14:32] <ruthr> Notes Super Hybrid 007 is not currently supported.
[14:32] <ruthr> i to je pisano 12.12.2012g
[14:33] <jobenty> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_AVerTV_DVB-T_Super_007
[14:33] <jobenty> a jesu li to neke upute za instalaciju drivera ili što
[14:33] <BotaniCar> Ja imam neki Averi Volero ili taknekaj doma, skuplja prasinu jer ga linux ne voli
[14:33] <jobenty> ja to ne kužim ništa
[14:33] <ruthr> tvoja nije BC za hibrid . dobro . onda ce radit
[14:33] <ruthr> da
[14:34] <ruthr> sve ti pise i nemoze biti jednostavnije
[14:34] <BotaniCar> Grci iskapcaju 2,1m neplatisa struje
[14:34] <jobenty> pa eto na primjer puno bi mi pomoglo kad bi mi rekao što moram učiniti prvo
[14:35] <ruthr> i kad to napravis 90% posla si napravio
[14:35] <ruthr> pa pise ti sve .. sto ti ja imam vise reci :)
[14:35] <BotaniCar> jobenty: prv moras procitati uputu koju sam ti linkao, nokon toga treba slijediti uputu koju sam ti linkao. Nakon toga si gotov s Kodijem. za TV karticu ista procedura. Pitaj kad zapnes negdje.
[14:35] <jobenty> ovo prvo sam probao u konzoli i ništa se ne dogodi
[14:36] <jobenty> mislim za instalaciju tih drivera od kartice
[14:36] <jobenty> # lspci -vv yields:
[14:36] <jobenty> to sam probao i ništa se ne dogodi
[14:37] <ruthr> Firmware is required with this device; use the updated get_dvb_firmware script or use the file "TT_PCI_2.19h_28_11_2006/so itd itd itd .. jesi to napravio
[14:37] <BotaniCar> jobenty: primjeti da je samo jedan dio tog retka italic
[14:37] <BotaniCar> taj dio ide u konzolu, ne sve
[14:37] <ruthr> ak si lupao samo lspci normalno da nece radit :)
[14:38] <BotaniCar> Yields bi u kontekstu te recenice bilo "daje povratnu informaciju"
[14:38] <jobenty> mislim iskopirao sam naredbu nisam tipkao
[14:39] <BotaniCar> iskopirao si i naredbu i komentar, trebas samo "kosi" (italic) dio
[14:39] <jobenty> # lspci -vv yields:
[14:39] <jobenty> eto to
[14:40] <ruthr> i jel ti izbacio sto
[14:40] <jobenty> ništa
[14:40] <BotaniCar> bez "yields" majku mu , pogledaj na stranicu, vidjet ces da je samo "lspci -vv" komanda i napisana je drugacijim slovima
[14:40] <BotaniCar> i bez "#" , samo ono pisano kosim slovima
[14:40] <jobenty> džizs vidi stvarno
[14:40] <ruthr> :)
[14:40] <jobenty> ok
[14:41] <jobenty> probam pa se javim
[14:41] <BotaniCar> ne beri brigu, treba vremena da se covjek priuci citanju tehnicke dokumentacije, ne pomaze ni to sto svak' ima svoj nacin pisanja :9
[14:41] <jobenty> ok
[14:42] <jobenty> kak ono za čišćenje konzole clr ili nešto
[14:42] <BotaniCar> nemoj cistiti , da imas pregled onog sto ti se desilo u prethodnom koraku, ako si hoces vizualno razdvojiti korake, lupi par puta enter da dobijes par praznih linija
[14:43] <jobenty> ma daj mi molimte to za čišćenje da nešt provjerim
[14:43] <BotaniCar> "clear"
[14:43] <jobenty> sps
[14:44] <jobenty> ovo sps je kratica od spasiba
[14:44] <jobenty> pa nemojte se ljutiti
[14:44] <jobenty> puno sam na chatu s rusima
[14:44] <BotaniCar> Схватили смо :)
[14:45] <ruthr> dosta bilo za danas .. pa-pa
[14:45] <jelly> ХДЗ
[14:45] <BotaniCar> LOL ! :)
[14:46] <jobenty> 02:07.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7131/SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
[14:46] <jobenty> Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc DVB-T Super 007
[14:46] <jobenty> Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
[14:46] <jobenty> Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
[14:46] <jobenty> Latency: 32 (21000ns min, 8000ns max)
[14:46] <jobenty> Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 19
[14:46] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ides ti mozda danas do Bobe, vid'et prinovu ?
[14:46] <jobenty> Region 0: Memory at ff5ff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
[14:46] <jobenty> Capabilities: <access denied>
[14:46] <jobenty> Kernel driver in use: saa7134
[14:46] <jobenty> evo ga
[14:46] <jobenty> to sam dobio
[14:46] <BotaniCar> jobenty: aj takve stvari na pastebin, molim te
[14:46] <jelly> јебему
[14:46] <jobenty> što
[14:47] <jobenty> ok neću više ako smeta
[14:47] <jelly> staviš na paste.ubuntu.com za bilo output duži od 2-3 reda
[14:47] <BotaniCar> spamas kanal, ovdje to nije tako ocito, ali da imamo jos trojcu s problemom, chat bi postao necitljiv
[14:47] <jobenty> ok
[14:47] <jobenty> aha
[14:47] <jobenty> sve razumijem
[14:50] <jobenty> ovako
[14:50] <jobenty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13124623/
[14:50] <jelly> jobenty: bedasto pitanje... pored navedenog, jel ucitan i saa7134-dvb kernel modul?
[14:51] <jobenty> pa piše kernel driver in use: saa7134
[14:51] <jelly> kad sam je zajebavao sa cardbus tv karticama bili su posebno driveri za analogni dio, posebno za dvb
[14:51] <jelly> jobenty: a saa7134-dvb?
[14:53] <jobenty> pa ne vidim da je
[14:54] <jelly> di gledas? lsmod
[14:55] <BotaniCar> Odem se ja vozit' :) jobenty ,sretno!
[14:55] <Mmike> BotaniCar: cini se da idem
[14:55] <BotaniCar> wooo wooo , povedi FranLuku !11
[14:55] <Mmike> da, to je ideja
[14:55] <BotaniCar> Ajde, Filip mu se veseli vise nego meni :)
[14:56] <hbogner> jos malo pa vrijeme za ic kuci
[14:56] <hbogner> pozdrav
[14:57] <jobenty> ovo
[14:57] <jobenty> lspci -vn:
[14:58] <jobenty> sorry
[14:58] <jobenty> saa7134_dvb 34722 0
[15:00] <jobenty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13124702/
[15:05] <Mmike> BotaniCar: kaj cete mu donjet?
[15:17] <jobenty> jelly: i nakon tog lsmod, jel učitan i saa7134-dvb modul ili ne?
[15:24] <jelly> ako je u outputu onda znači da je učitan
[15:27] <jobenty> stoji nula na kraju retka
[15:28] <jobenty> pa neznam što bi bilo 0, što 1 i što 2
[15:28] <jelly> to nije problem, znači da ga u tom trenutku ništa ne koristi
[15:29] <jobenty> ok
[15:29] <jobenty> probao sam skinuti onaj firmware i ta se stranica ne može učitati
[16:17] <Mmike> hrvojem: plavi: jel' se zna cca-release mysqla/percona 5.7?
[16:21] <weshmashian> Mmike: a sad sam tu :)
[16:22] <weshmashian> Mmike: sta, cekas multi-master replikaciju sigurno!
[16:22] <Mmike> weshmashian: sad je kasno, vec sam rucao s furacem :)
[16:22] <weshmashian> e jebaga
[16:22] <Mmike> weshmashian: ne, cekam da konacno log file ode u fakin /var/log
[16:22] <weshmashian> a nista, vrijeme je za veceru! :)
[16:22] <Mmike> a to se sigurno u 5.6 nece mijenjati
[16:40] <jobenty> evo me opet
[16:40] <jobenty> instalirao sam KODI
[16:41] <jobenty> i sad sve mp3-ce su mi na HDD koji je još uvijek NTFS i taj HDD ne mogu pronaći u kodiju je li to zbog toga što je NTFS
[16:47] <Mmike> ovi sastanci petkom gube smisao
[18:47] <hrvojem> Mmike: PS ili PXC?
[19:53] <Mmike> hrvojem, PXC
[19:53] <Mmike> hrvojem, PS je izasao, krivo sam vidio
[20:43] <Mmike> BotaniCar, super vam je dete
[21:01] <jobenty> evo probleme sa zvukom sam sredio
[21:02] <jobenty> problem je što nemama nikakav indikator na mikseru u operativnom sustavu
[21:02] <jobenty> sad je problem TV kartica
[21:02] <jobenty> KODI kaže da nemam TV karticu
[21:03] <jobenty> i što sad da mu radim
[22:30] <jobenty> netko živ?
[22:31] <dodobas> jes
[22:31] <jobenty> odlično
[22:31] <jobenty> mogu te udavit s tim drajverom za AVerTV ili imaš pametnijeg posla
[22:33] <jobenty> ???
[22:38] <dodobas> mozes probati, ali kako nemam pojma sto je to ... mislim da neces uspjeti
[22:38] <jobenty> onda hvala
[22:54] <jobenty> daklem
[22:59] <jobenty> Skinuo sam nešto sa Mercurial repository za što mislim da je driver pa možda i nije. Zip file v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5. Kad sam ga otpakovao našao sam između ostalog i readme, readme.patches i installation instruction.
[23:02] <jobenty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13132536/
[23:02] <jobenty> evo to su upute za instalaciju
[23:02] <jobenty> zamolio bih da netko pogleda
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[06:15] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did you see canonical jobs?
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: http://www.canonical.com/careers
[07:31] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[07:32] <EriC^^> yeah i saw it a while ago
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: nice nice :p
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/new-usb-startup-creator-is-being-made-for-ubuntu-16-04-lts-495794.shtml
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> bbl have a nice day
[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> good noon to all
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> hi popey
[10:31] <popey> hi
[11:04] <lotus|xenial> good afternoon to all
[11:15] <lotus|xenial> cfhowlett: hello mate
[11:16] <cfhowlett> hey ^3
[11:27] <lotus|xenial> its trolls days again grr
[11:30] <lotus|xenial> tnx cfhowlett
[11:31] <cfhowlett> np
[11:32] <lotus|xenial> i dont like ignore cfhowlett , wanna know whats going on
[11:33] <cfhowlett> understood
[11:33] <lotus|xenial> this guy needs a ban
[11:34] <lotus|xenial> cfhowlett: daftykins saw him quoting TJ to help a user, and it wasnt even relevant
[11:34] <cfhowlett> I'm already done. he's /ignored.
[11:35] <lotus|xenial> lol :p
[11:46] <lotus|xenial> bbl
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> yes
[14:35] <Pici> yep
[14:56] <TJ-> cfhowlett: are you into electronics (components) ?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> not so much. Y
[14:57] <TJ-> just been trying to get hold of an LDO transistor, '662K' 3.3V, 0.5A, SOT-23, and it seems like the only suppliers for small quantities is China :)
[14:58] <cfhowlett> I'm up the street from the electronics bazaar ...
[14:58] <cfhowlett> might be able to help
[14:59] <TJ-> I have an IDE SSD (Disk-On-Module) that has blown its voltage regulator
[15:00] <cfhowlett> speak ENGLISH dern it! :) so what do you need? details are good, here ...
[15:00] <TJ-> I'm trying to find a compatible component at Farnell, but so far not doing too well
[15:00] <TJ-> Let me find a reference page so you get the idea :)
[15:00] <cfhowlett> brilliant!
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> excellent... release the hounds...
[15:02] <cfhowlett> lol! right, right!
[15:02] <TJ-> oh! Farnell have one. The original partial part details I had were incorrect
[15:02] <TJ-> http://uk.farnell.com/torex/xc6206p332mr/ic-pos-volt-reg-0-25a-3-3v-sot23/dp/8796980
[15:03] <TJ-> I'm sorted, I think.
[15:03] <cfhowlett> and now I know what the heck a Farnell is ...
[15:03] <TJ-> this thing is about 3mm x 2mm :)
[15:09] <lordievader> An IDE SSD? Isn't IDE to slow for that?
[15:15] <TJ-> They're common in Industrial equipment; the device plugs directly onto the mobo IDE socket
[15:15] <lordievader> Fancy.
[15:15] <TJ-> they avoid the power/size/weght/fragility of spinning disks
[15:16] <lordievader> Can't they do that with sata too?
[15:17] <TJ-> Yes, there are SATA versions. But these have been around for IDE systems since the 1990s
[15:18] * BluesKaj assumes the capacities are quite low
[15:20] <TJ-> from <1GB to 256GB
[15:20] <TJ-> generally used for mostly-read-only OS installs
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[16:09] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> my second xenial bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1513801
[16:13] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: You'd never believe I've not yet managed to boot that mobo with the WMP600N in!
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: dont sweat mate tyt
[16:15] <TJ-> I'm not, but the mobo is supposed to boot! It refuses to USB boot, somehow it blew a PCB trace and transistor on an IDE Disk-On-Module SSD, it's own NIC only does Novell Netware boot services! ... Grrr!
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: what mobo brand is that?
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> that pikakuu guy has been a troll again today grrr
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> he plays the game smart, and reverses things to us
[16:17] <TJ-> Mercury Kobian PVCLE266M I think it is - has a Via C3 CPU on
[16:17] <TJ-> really? I must have missed that
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: yeah it was this morning before you joined
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: told me not abuse the bot, after someone sweared in the channel
[16:19] <TJ-> LOL I detect some 'aspergers' hints in that character :)
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> he will make a mistake soon, and ill grab him
[16:20] <OerHeks> I'll ignore him and some other trolls. there has been a wave of trolls lately
[16:21] <OerHeks> ( and you'll find them making jokes in #u-o )
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah indeed, but the problem is OerHeks if you ignore, other users have a trolls mess by them
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: and that guy provides wrong info to users aswell
[16:22] <OerHeks> just type: please ignore *
[16:22] <TJ-> pleas ignore everyone :D
[16:22] <OerHeks> that will drive him mad, and warns the other users
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:23] <TJ-> I think pikapi is trying to be helpful but not aware of being too eager, and not always knowing the correct safe steps. Maybe just needs some friendly advice
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: hmm you can try it lol
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> good luck
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> :p
[16:24] <OerHeks> TJ-, he surely is trolling, does not know the basics, but know too much about unusual requests.
[16:25] <TJ-> that's why I sense aspergers hints
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> mental irc
[16:25] <TJ-> focus on narrow areas with amazing ability but something slightly different throws them out
[16:26] <OerHeks> well, good luck to you, fine helpers, nearly weekend.
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> yeah but 'catching' us back is a nasty trick
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> he tryed to prove daftykin1 wrong aswell
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> anyway..
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> we gonna have a new startup disk cretaor yayyyy
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> creator
[16:28] <TJ-> yeah, it's called 'dd'
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:29] <TJ-> I don't know what the entire issue with those tools is. why not just write the image plain and simple rather than messing about with an intermediate boot-loader
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> its gui and nice for the masses
[16:30] <TJ-> No argument about GUI ... but why not just 'choose ISO', 'choose target', 'write'
[16:31] <TJ-> as in, no trying to insert an additional boot-manager in between the firmware and the ISO contents, since the ISO is hybrid bootable anyhow
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> true
[16:32] <TJ-> I think those tools have been used by mistake; they're for creating truly multiboot installations with several installers on the same device, which isn't the common use case for most users
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> i like that multisystem tool
[16:32] <TJ-> The GUI should be the file manager. Drag the ISO image onto the USB device image and done!
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: that would be nice
[16:33] <TJ-> It's standard drag-n-drop behaviour after all. It would just need to ask for elevated permissions
[16:33] <TJ-> If software-center can do that, so can the file manager
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: its gonne be gnome software now :p
[16:33] <TJ-> Not here it isn't!
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> looool
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> xenial kubuntu ?
[16:34] <TJ-> there seems to be some strange, unannounced, alliance with Canonical and Gnome
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: we had gnome by default on early ubuntu's right
[16:35] <TJ-> I was in the UOS UEFI boot session, and there were 3 guys there from RedHat/Gnome and all the talk was about how Gnome tooling will handle UEFI Capsule updatse
[16:35] <TJ-> Gnome is the back-end of Unity too, but not the Gnome Desktop
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> right
[16:35] <TJ-> I think the reason is Canonical has discovered the costs of going it alone on the desktop 'experience'
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> there's a lot going on these days
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> big business
[16:36] <TJ-> interesting though, I can't see how focusing on Gnome works with the Snappy/App infrastructure which is all QT (which is the underpinning of KDE). Gnome has gtk/gdk
[16:37] <TJ-> the whole point of these airy fairy 'apps' is they are effectively HTML5/CSS QT QML definitions
[16:38] <TJ-> and that's what the phones have, so if everything is 'converging' on that, not sure how Gnome fits in
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> snappy and phones wanna enter the scene
[16:38] <TJ-> I found the summit sessions covering it were hard to follow the logic
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> and the big cloud business of canonical
[16:40] <TJ-> right, which has nothing whatsoever in common with 'convergence' !
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> think we gonna see weird things in the future
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> and a lot of solving :p
[16:41] <TJ-> there was a discussion about this amongst the core devs the other day; the aim to have a single installer image... and the cloud folks were complaining bitterly that there was no way they wanted all the same stuff on as phones/desktop need.
[16:41] <TJ-> They were asking what is wrong with 'ubuntu-minimal', that is already supposed to be the common base
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> the more characters on the play, the more arguments will rise
[16:42] <TJ-> there was some bad tempered falling out and silence descended.
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> can imagine
[16:42] <TJ-> basically the 'suits' are saying 'we must have convergence and a single pretty Ubuntu image'
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> what happened to opensource thinking there
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> isnt the community supose to brainstorm along?
[16:43] <TJ-> It rather feels to me like Canonical is being prepared to be partially sold; possible public listing in the pipeline maybe
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> i never liked the amazon stuff
[16:44] <TJ-> supposed to - but that kind of stuff disappeared into Canonical years ago. "Community" is only a veneer now... if you don't agree you can go - see what happened to Jonathan Riddel, founder of Kubuntu. Frozen out and 'told' to resign from the Kubuntu Community Council.
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> who knows what else we gonna see
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[16:50] <TJ-> I think its time I had a nap; I've worn my eyes out today staring at SMD components on PCBs
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> cant you try that plop cd
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> or cant you get a cdrom working on it neither
[16:51] <TJ-> there's no CD on that mobo, and it has previously booted from the same USB device, which is the annoying part
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> cmos clear and battery out?
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> anyway, after a good night sleep, is the best time to solve hardware issues
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> (or under the shower, my gf says)
[16:55] <TJ-> yes, tried it under the shower :D
[16:55] <TJ-> and I slept with the battery out
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> yes but no
[18:12] <fossterer> Hi! I've been using 15.10 daily builds so far. Now that 16.04 daily-builds are getting ready, is there a way for me to move to 16.04?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> fossterer, update and upgrade to make sure you have the latest packages , then sudo do release-upgrade -d , if you want to upgrade over the net or do a clean install of one of these images, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[18:18] <BluesKaj> use this site if you're using ubuntu http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[18:18] <BluesKaj> fossterer,^
[18:19] <fossterer> BluesKaj: Thanks, I'm already running 15.10 daily-build isntalled. Can use 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade an installed 'daily-build' (to 16.04)?
[18:19] <fossterer> Did you ever use a daily-build?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> yes, I've used both , don't forget to use -d at the end of the do-release, its 'd for development
[18:21] <fossterer> Great! Thanks for responding, BluesKaj!
[18:21] <BluesKaj> the daily build is great for a clean install if you have separate / and /home partitions in particular
[18:22] <fossterer> Yeah.. I have /home separately.. I use the same for LTS and daily-build installs
[18:23] <BluesKaj> cool
[18:26] <BluesKaj> yeah , i still have 14.04 on a separate partition as my stable backup OS
[18:26] <fossterer> cool... Do you do any active testing on daily-builds?
[18:28] <BluesKaj> yes this is a daily that I'm testing atm, altho I haven't seen many problems so far with 16.04, it's still basically 15.10 underneath
[18:29] <BluesKaj> but I'm a KDE guy, the ubuntu 16.04 testers are reporting basically the same experience
[18:30] <fossterer> Can I see any of the bugs you worked on/reported earlier? I started using 15.10 daily builds with the aim of participating in bug-squashing stuff
[18:31] <BluesKaj> I rarely report bugs anymore because most of the time they're dupes, already reported
[18:31] <OerHeks> I do, when they need confirmation
[18:32] <fossterer> Can I see a sample?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> ok , gotta go for a few mins .... paper mail etc
[18:33] <BluesKaj> check launchpad
[18:34] <fossterer> ~kaj, is that you?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:37] <fossterer> cool.. Thanks
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> a 16.04 xfce bug i noticed, unable to login with the guest account
[18:42] <OerHeks> Delay release !
[18:42] <OerHeks> :-D
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> critical error
[20:13] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust :-D
[21:28] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[21:28] <OerHeks> hey paul
[23:44] <TJ-> grrr, found another vulnerable BIOS flash tool. AMI again. Surpised - not.
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-quality
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[13:03] <balloons> morning
[13:08] <brendand> pitti, is it possible for adt-run to install dependencies in the root file system, assuming the device has been made writable?
[13:14] <brendand> pitti, we need to tell it the testbed is writable somehow?
[13:27] <pitti> brendand: no need to tell it, it auto-detects that
[13:27] <pitti> brendand: i. e. just do --setup-commands 'mount -o remount,rw /'
[13:28] <pitti> (or if it's already writable, then no further action required)
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[00:54] <^k^> 新 Mint • 新人求助，关于重启。。。。。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473721 我昨天刚装上linuxmint，系统更新完后重启就有问题了。重启后笔记本会接上电，但是几秒就又关了，电源灯会闪，这样重复两次才能进入选系统的界面，但是关机后，再开机就没有这个问题，求助啊
[00:54] <^k^> ─> 。。。。 zz: qqq8225316 — 2015-11-06 8:45
[01:21] <netsnail_> macbook air装LINUX驱动都好使吗？
[01:35] <netsnail_> 雪好大
[01:40] <^k^> 新 数据库管理 • 求助，安装mysql失败 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473722 新买的VPS，安装mysql时，老是出现这样的错误，安装前已经运行apt-get update了。我同学以前帮我解决过一次，说是少了bsdutils，但是我google了好久，没找到，现在联系不上他，请帮帮忙，谢谢了。 root@ces
[01:40] <^k^> ─> hivps:~# apt-get install mysql-server Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state informatio …
[01:57] <onlylove_> 听说CL被攻击了
[01:59] <^k^> archl: 拜逛逛壕
[02:27] <hceasy> 又到周五了..
[02:27] <yunfan> onlylove1: 怎么攻击
[02:31] <onlylove1> yunfan: 数据库没了
[02:31] <onlylove1> yunfan: 哦，没那么严重，就是被偷走了而已
[02:31] <onlylove1> hceasy: 周五不是问题，问题是不想上班
[02:32] <onlylove1> yunfan: nyfair昨天发了个B站的招聘
[02:32] <hceasy> onlylove1: 什么数据库被偷了 ?
[02:32] <hceasy> onlylove1: 刚刚看到cl的被偷
[02:32] <onlylove1> hceasy: 草榴的
[02:33] <hceasy> onlylove1: 有帐号 ?
[02:33] <onlylove1> hceasy: 我怎么可能有
[02:33] <onlylove1> hceasy: 我连门在哪都不知道，就是看了个新闻而已
[02:33] <hceasy> onlylove1: 我也没有...
[02:36] <onlylove__> 我在想是不是辞掉工作休息一阵子，好好想想以后该咋办
[02:44] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 《Linux就该这么学》 - 必读的红帽系统与红帽linux认证自学手册 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473728 本书作者刘遄从事于linux运维技术行业，较早时因兴趣的驱使接触到了Linux系统并开始学习。 已在2012年考下红帽工程师RHCE_6，今年又分别考下RHCE_7版本与
[02:44] <onlylove1> 内存这词也TM用烂了，现在搜手机内存，得搜运行内存
[02:48] <onlylove1> 这广告贴？我TM想砍了去
[02:49] <onlylove1> RHCE又不是RHCA，有毛好嘚瑟
[02:49] <onlylove1> 点进去看了下，还是过了CA的……
[02:57] <tryit> onlylove1, 考个RHCA考个CCIE
[03:01] <onlylove1> tryit: ca不是那么好过的，ce的话paper我觉得没啥大意思
[03:02] <onlylove1> tryit: 哦，ccie paper
[03:02] <tryit> onlylove1, 这……难的说不好过，简单的说没意思
[03:04] <onlylove1> tryit: 那你觉得微软认证专家这样的，你拿了作甚
[03:04] <onlylove1> tryit: ca我没考过，但是猫猫要求有工作经验，我TM都多少年没摸服务器了
[03:04] <onlylove1> tryit: adobe产品专家，adobe设计专家
[03:05] <onlylove1> tryit: 这些东西，我只想说，TM拿来骗钱的？
[03:05] <onlylove1> tryit: 我确实想考ca
[03:05] <onlylove1> tryit: 但是也确实能力不够，没啥好说的
[03:06] <onlylove1> tryit: 现在机器配置能负担多大负载我根本不知道了
[03:06] <tryit> onlylove1, 不要为了考证而考证
[03:06] <onlylove1> tryit: 考证只是为了更好的饭碗
[03:07] <onlylove1> tryit: 我不像你那样有理想
[03:07] <onlylove1> tryit: 我只想在帝都这地方挣扎着活下去
[03:07] <tryit> onlylove1, 不矛盾啊
[03:10] <onlylove1> tryit: 我已经快活不下去了
[03:11] <tryit> onlylove1, .
[03:14] <kandu> tryit: 拜有理想的高管
[03:14] <Madper|Wanted> yurakucho: http://www.mgpyh.com/recommend/0189012/
[03:14] <ubrl> Madper|Wanted: ⇪ Black Diamond 中性 可折叠碳素登山杖 Z-POLES 112132 ￥599 - 买个便宜货
[03:14] <MangHuo> Madper|Wanted: ...
[03:14] <^k^> kandu: ok tryit => 拜有理想的高管
[03:14] <Madper|Wanted> MangHuo: ..
[03:14] <tryit> kandu, Madper .........
[03:15] <onlylove1> Madper: 听说你被wanted了？
[03:18] <cherrot> onlylove1, 什么情况
[03:19] <cherrot> Madper, 应召媒婆？
[03:23] <onlylove1> cherrot: | Madper|Wanted is now known as Madper
[03:23] <onlylove1> cherrot: 就这个情况
[03:35] <hceasy> onlylove: 刚刚去看了下 作者有鼓励用户推广 送礼品的行为 帖子删了已经..
[03:36] <mengyi> 怎么感觉人少了不少阿
[03:36] <onlylove1> hceasy: 广告帖啊，那砍了，干的漂亮
[03:37] <onlylove1> hceasy: 为啥我觉得应该把版规置顶
[03:38] * tryit 多年没逛过 ubuntu 论坛了……
[03:38] <onlylove1> tryit: 高管不需要看论坛，只管数钱就好
[03:39] <yurakucho> tryit: 高管不需要看论坛，只管数钱就好
[03:43] <tryit> yurakucho, 老板，下一站准备去伦敦巴黎还是纽约？
[03:43] <onlylove1> tryit: 好顶赞！
[03:44] <onlylove1> 成功黑掉 yurakucho
[03:45] <yurakucho> tryit: 下一站北京
[03:46] <hceasy> 怎么你们攻击对象就转移了...
[03:46] <tryit> yurakucho, 北京是根据地嘛，得去开疆拓土不是？
[03:46] <Madper> yurakucho, 北京是根据地嘛，得去开疆拓土不是？
[03:46] <tryit> Madper, :-)
[03:50] <iIlL10Oo> winetricks 厉害
[03:50] <onlylove1> yurakucho, 北京是根据地嘛，得去开疆拓土不是？
[03:50] <Madper> tryit: 高管不需要看论坛，只管数钱就好
[04:07] <hceasy> onlylove1: 以后再也不敢随随便便去公司了.
[04:08] <hceasy> on
[04:10] <hceasy> onlylove_: 上个月周六在家没事干.就跑公司写代码了 没打卡 然后下午组长他们来了 报加班竟然把我也报上去了 加班是要申请的 刚刚人事过来问... 没打卡 怎么证明你加了一天 ... 好麻烦..
[04:11] <hceasy> onlylove1: 我只是在家无聊 没想着去算加班费.
[04:17] <onlylove1> hceasy: 不用管那群SB，要打卡的公司，能呆？
[04:18] <onlylove1> hceasy: 他们根本就不管你怎么样，他们只想着，怎么向老板证明他们干了多少活，至于给你添了多少麻烦，他们才不在意
[04:19] <onlylove1> hceasy: 他们恨不能麻烦死你，让你上厕所都打卡
[04:19] <onlylove1> hceasy: 以此来向老板证明他们有努力工作
[04:19] <hceasy> onlylove1: 我的意思是... 我压根没想着算加班.. 组长竟然给报了.
[04:20] <onlylove1> hceasy: 组长做的没错，你在非工作时间帮公司做事情了，就是加班
[04:20] <hceasy> onlylove1: 好吧.. 下次无论是溜达还是加班 记得打卡就算了.
[04:20] <onlylove1> hceasy: 你要是不报加班，你会让组长他们难做
[04:21] <onlylove1> hceasy: 你TM闲的蛋疼去公司码代码，陪妹子压马路啊
[04:21] <hceasy> onlylove1: 妹子在家天猫客服 没空
[04:21] <onlylove1> hceasy: 聊天
[04:21] <hceasy> onlylove1: 我在家也是打游戏. 还不如出来跑跑
[04:22] <onlylove1> hceasy: TMD现充的世界我不懂
[04:22] <hceasy> onlylove1: 处理一大堆报表 聊天会出错.
[04:22] <hceasy> onlylove1: 上个月妹子工资比我高....
[04:22] <onlylove1> hceasy: 多正常
[04:22] <onlylove1> hceasy: 你是拿死工资的
[04:22] <hceasy> onlylove1: 连续两个月了 还特么是旅游淡季...
[04:22] <onlylove1> hceasy: 旅游淡季……
[04:23] <hceasy> onlylove1: 还有就是转正没给加薪 当时入职的时候没谈转正..
[04:24] <onlylove1> hceasy: 其实你已经很不错了，我公司除了日常事务，还给我们搞了各种洗脑课程，然后还有测试，要命的是，我司的网络根本支撑不了那课程
[04:24] <onlylove1> hceasy: 我得回去用自己的网络做，还TM不能报加班
[04:24] <hceasy> onlylove1: 后来跟人事说 提的高了一点儿 结果都不跟谈
[04:24] <onlylove1> hceasy: 你想好事呢
[04:24] <onlylove1> hceasy: 好不容易逮着个冤大头
[04:24] <onlylove1> hceasy: 知道IT圈怎么涨薪不，跳
[04:25] <onlylove1> hceasy: 那些课程你不做，就给你扣工资，扣绩效，恶心的一B
[04:26] <Madper> hceasy: 你再这样下去, 妹子都可能跑掉
[04:26] <Madper> hceasy: 你做啥的啊? 赶紧换个靠谱公司啊
[04:26] <onlylove1> hceasy: 你说那不是浪费公司的钱么，但是人做成绩了
[04:26] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 求教语言设置和一个whereis 的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473729 １） 把/etc/default/locale 所有项都设置成 en_US.utf-8了， 重启后locale的结果也显示全是 en_US.utf-8 了，为什么在终端和网页中中文还是能正常显示而不是显示方框？中文是只要有相 应的字
[04:26] <^k^> ─> 符集就可以显示么？ 2） whereis locales为什么只显示 /usr/share/locales，而不显示 /usr/share/i18n …
[04:26] <onlylove1> Madper: 他？拜托，人妹子比他忙
[04:27] <onlylove1> iMadper|EAT: 我估计妹子要担心是不是冷落了他才是真的
[04:29] <onlylove1> 11月9日，即“119”； 11月10日,简称“110”； 11月11日，简称“双11”，连起来是：防火、防盗、防败家娘们
[04:29] <onlylove1> 复制过来才发现，11月10日明明是1110
[05:01] <yunfan> onlylove1: 谁的数据库没了 你要去应聘b站？
[05:01] <yunfan> onlylove1: 它这种人 估计是b站圈子里的人 发招聘不奇怪
[05:04] <onlylove_> yunfan:数据库好好的，就是cl被拖库了而已，b站只是想想，我现在乱糟糟的，个人更希望留在帝都
[05:04] <^k^> 新 编译或打包 • [转贴]pbuilder自动编译debian软件包 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473730 原贴地址 pbuilder 可以通过创建 chroot 环境来自动安装编译依赖并编译 Debian 软件包(以免自己 apt-get build-dep 下 载一大堆东西又忘了该删除哪些。它可以指定 chroot 环境的版本(stable, testing, uns
[05:04] <^k^> ─> table)，因此它也可以用来 backport 软件包到 stable 或 testing ，不过前提是编译依赖要满足。 …
[05:04] <onlylove_> yunfan: 他应该是a岛居民
[05:05] <onlylove_> yunfan: b站有sa职位，我只是想，继续做sa，薪资应该比我现在好点
[05:05] <onlylove_> yunfan: 不过也不好说
[05:08] <onlylove1> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46070
[05:08] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 紫光计划投资百亿美元造芯片
[05:44] <iMadper|EAT> yurakucho: https://pic2.zhimg.com/f1f82362faa7d6bd9c748dc1ed32e9e9_b.jpg
[05:44] <iMadper> onlylove1: 我是说, 他没钱啊.
[05:44] <iMadper> onlylove1: 妹子挣得比他多.
[05:44] <yurakucho> iMadper: 太牛了
[05:44] <iMadper> yurakucho: 是啊.
[05:48] <^k^> O0XX|Qiong: 拜帅哥
[05:48] <yurakucho> O0XX|Qiong: ... ...
[05:48] <yurakucho> O0XX|Qiong: 今天来不来 cc iMadper MangHuo
[05:48] <saker_> 啥？
[05:49] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 今天来不来 cc MangHuo yurakucho
[05:51] <saker_> 有木有人在呢？
[05:52] <saker___> 。。。。
[05:54] <iMadper> MangHuo: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/730473/
[05:54] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 优惠券码:京东 输入手机号 领取优惠券_京东优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[05:54] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 给推荐个微波炉啊
[05:55] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 还有扫地机器人
[05:55] <saker___> 。。。
[05:55] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 微波炉.... 买老狗啊
[05:56] <saker___> 买电饭煲有没有优惠啊？
[05:56] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: http://www.ithome.com/html/digi/102316.htm
[05:56] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ IFA 2014：科幻戴森扫地机器人，你舍得拿它来扫地？ - 戴森扫地机器人,dyson扫地机器人,戴森,dyson - IT之家
[05:56] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 滚，太贵，推荐个我能买得起的
[05:57] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 别的配不上你上市公司cto这个level
[05:57] <yurakucho> O0XX|Qiong: 别的配不上你上市公司cto这个level
[05:57] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 你不等着买小米的扫地机器人了啊?
[05:58] <O0XX|Qiong> iMadper: 小米要出扫地机器人了？
[05:58] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 还在研发
[05:58] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 今年没戏了.
[05:58] <yurakucho> O0XX|Qiong: 先回答你今天到底来不来这个问题
[05:59] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 先回答你今天到底来不来这个问题
[05:59] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: Roomba 620 买这个吧.
[05:59] <O0XX|Qiong> yurakucho: iMadper 去啊，不是说好了去么
[05:59] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 要说干净, Roomba 620 扫的真心干净.
[06:00] <yurakucho> O0XX|Qiong: 好, 你总是"下周复下周" 不靠谱啊
[06:00] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 特价的时候2k左右吧.
[06:00] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 好, 你总是"下周复下周" 不靠谱啊
[06:00] <iMadper> yurakucho: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/730423/
[06:01] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ GREGORY 格里高利 Z25 男式 户外登山徒步背包 25L 488元（588-100）_亚马逊中国优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[06:03] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: 微波炉你要机械的?
[06:03] <iMadper> O0XX|Qiong: http://item.jd.com/1443621.html?jd_pop=a5130ae6-cf98-4e32-99f0-e7083513abd6&abt=3 过两天抢购, 还可以用白条券.
[06:03] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 【松下NN-GT353M】松下（Panasonic）NN-GT353M 微波炉【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东
[06:04] * yurakucho brb
[06:09] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 话说晚上这天气哪去啊？
[06:10] <MangHuo> O0XX|Diao: 大腰子啊
[06:12] <huntxu> MangHuo: 忙活什麽呢
[06:12] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 也别去烤串了, 就近吧
[06:12] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 公司旁边的kaibinsiji
[06:13] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 就近哪有？
[06:13] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 听你们念叨好多次了啊.
[06:13] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 先说这次谁请???
[06:13] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 去kaibinsiji的话你请
[06:13] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 谁请都不知道呢
[06:13] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 没道理啊.
[06:15] <huntxu> iMadper: 拜地產壕
[06:15] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 拜地產壕
[06:15] <^k^> huntxu: ok iMadper => 拜地產壕
[06:15] <iMadper> huntxu: 好久不见你了, 糊涂许
[06:15] <huntxu> iMadper: 我天天都在
[06:15] <iMadper> huntxu: 你这最近忙啥呢?
[06:15] <iMadper> huntxu: 哦...
[06:15] <huntxu> iMadper: 沒說話而已
[06:15] <iMadper> huntxu: 好吧
[06:16] <huntxu> iMadper: 是你自己太久沒來了吧
[06:16] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 是你自己太久沒來了吧
[06:16] <iMadper> huntxu: O0XX|Diao: 最近忙啊
[06:16] <huntxu> iMadper: 忙著泡妞？
[06:16] <iMadper> huntxu: 是啊.
[06:17] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 泡几个？
[06:17] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 你猜
[06:17] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 一个就够你忙的了吧
[06:18] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 先说, 今晚谁请啊? cc yurakucho
[06:18] <yurakucho> iMadper: 我俩
[06:18] <iMadper> yurakucho: 别闹.
[06:18] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 说了看去哪啊
[06:19] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 管氏的话, 谁请?
[06:19] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 你猜
[06:19] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 要不今天放你一马, yurakucho 请?
[06:19] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 李老板不是都跟你说了么
[06:19] <yurakucho> iMadper: 泥奏凯
[06:19] <MangHuo> 装机呢
[06:19] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 说啥了啊??
[06:20] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: nnnnd, 啥都没跟我说啊
[06:20] * yurakucho 四十分钟后大结局
[06:20] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/730651/ 买买买?
[06:20] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 天猫双11预售:SHARP 夏普 LCD-70UF30A 70吋4KLED液晶智能平板电视 12949元包邮（99元定金）_天猫精选优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[06:21] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 别闹，电视我都买好了
[06:21] <huntxu> 70太大了
[06:21] <huntxu> iMadper: 50-60有啥推薦
[06:21] <iMadper> huntxu: 55w啊
[06:22] <huntxu> iMadper: 啥牌子，沒了解
[06:22] <iMadper> huntxu: 大法
[06:22] <huntxu> 果然大法
[06:22] <iMadper> huntxu: 现在只有大法良心了.
[06:22] <iMadper> huntxu: 剩下的就剩下老狗良心了.
[06:22] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 你买的啥电视? 求非智能只有HDMI2.0+DP的电视
[06:22] <iMadper> huntxu: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/724421
[06:22] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 新低价:SONY 索尼 KD-55X8000C 55寸4K液晶电视 4999元包邮_国美在线优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[06:23] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 房子买好了？
[06:23] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 咩
[06:23] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 没资格呢
[06:23] <iMadper> yurakucho: 他买的pptv
[06:23] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: pptv? 你一个cto买pptv?
[06:23] <huntxu> iMadper: 大法也有android啊
[06:23] <iMadper> huntxu: 有啊.
[06:23] <huntxu> O0XX|Diao: pptv發個來看看
[06:23] <iMadper> huntxu: 你要不带android的?
[06:24] <huntxu> iMadper: 沒關係，反正不是我看
[06:24] <huntxu> iMadper: 本來打算小米完事的
[06:24] <iMadper> huntxu: 小米挺好的啊
[06:24] <O0XX|Diao> huntxu: 我买的时候才2799,4K，LG屏，现在3599了，不合适了
[06:24] <iMadper> huntxu: 那个价格, 真的没啥好挑剔的了
[06:24] <O0XX|Diao> huntxu: 这个价格推荐乐视了
[06:24] <huntxu> O0XX|Diao: 為毛這麽便宜
[06:25] <huntxu> 我覺得樂視也行 :/
[06:26] <O0XX|Diao> huntxu: 搞活动啊
[06:27] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 房子还没买就买电视？
[06:27] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 我就问问
[06:27] <huntxu> O0XX|Diao: 多大的？
[06:27] <O0XX|Diao> huntxu: 55
[06:27] <huntxu> 現在55沒這麽低價的吧
[06:28] <O0XX|Diao> huntxu: 貌似还真没有
[06:28] <O0XX|Diao> huntxu: 我这个是抢购的
[06:33] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 你啥时候来啊
[06:34] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 估计得6点半
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 别闹了
[06:34] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 丢!
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 五点就下班
[06:34] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 别闹
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 你丫来这么晚, 我还得等你
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 饿死了都
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 早点而来
[06:34] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 先吃点零食去
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 没了
[06:34] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 断粮很久了啊
[06:34] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 找南溪要
[06:35] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 她也没有啊.
[06:36] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 断粮断健怡很久了, 要不我怎么会...
[06:36] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 出息啊
[06:36] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 一堆难吃到死的蛇果
[06:36] <yurakucho> 没有健怡可乐 我就没有了loyalty
[06:36] <iMadper> yurakucho: 出息啊
[06:37] <onlylove1> yurakucho: 出息
[06:37] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 你几点来啊?
[06:37] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 现在就出发吧
[06:38] <yunfan> onlylove1: 不会审计代码的 sa估计薪资不会高的 搞不好退出市场都有可能
[06:39] <onlylove1> yunfan: 总比我现在做测试好吧
[06:43] <gfxmode> 代码审计是QA质量保证的工作吧？
[06:43] <iMadper> onlylove1: 怎么会... 我觉得做测试挺好的.
[06:43] <^k^> 新 游戏和游戏模拟器 • HoN更新失败，请各位大神支招 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473731 ubuntu14.04 版本升级3.7.10->3.7.13 错误如下，我也是没辙了，各位帮忙看看 zz: chenjosh — 2015-11-06 14:33
[06:44] <iMadper> yurakucho: MangHuo: O0XX|Diao: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/730655/
[06:44] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 天猫双11特价预告:Free Soldier 自由兵 魔形旗舰版箱装锹套装多功能车载工具箱求生野营 1549元（需99元定金）_天猫精选优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[06:45] <cherrot> iMadper, 开始玩儿野战了？
[06:45] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 盒子给推荐一个？
[06:45] <iMadper> cherrot: 兔兔
[06:45] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 电视盒子啊?
[06:45] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 对啊
[06:45] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 我用天猫墨盒, 好用.
[06:46] <cherrot> iMadper, 🐘🐘
[06:47] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 啥价格买的？
[06:50] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 179吧
[06:50] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 我买东西都便宜.
[06:52] <onlylove1> iMadper: 你觉得好，咱俩换，如何
[07:00] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 在抄你的邮件
[07:00] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 咱
[07:00] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 赞
[07:00] <iMadper> MangHuo: http://www.newegg.cn/Product/S7F-5CE-048_320.htm
[07:00] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 官方翻新:Linksys EA6400智能双频千兆无线路由器AC1600 - 新蛋中国
[07:03] <onlylove1> ……
[07:03] <onlylove1> 好便宜
[07:09] <O0XX|Diao> MangHuo: 买买买
[07:09] <ulot0> 今天的更新好大呀，有二百多MB呢
[07:19] <iMadper> BinLi: .
[07:19] <yunfan> onlylove1: 测试也尽快升级成白盒吧 我看我们测试部门干的基本都可以被程序员代替
[07:20] <MangHuo> O0XX|Diao: 今天请啥啊
[07:21] <MangHuo> cc yurakucho
[07:21] <chenshaoju> 买买买！
[07:22] <yurakucho> chenshaoju: 买买买!
[07:23] <chenshaoju> 其实我在研究IRC客户端）
[07:30] <onlylove1> yunfan: 但是我做的事情程序员没时间做，所以外包出来
[07:32] <onlylove1> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46071
[07:32] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | Google考虑自己设计芯片
[07:33] <onlylove1> yunfan: 程序员没时间验证一个产品在七八种语言上面的表现是不是有截断重叠这些小问题
[07:35] <MangHuo> O0XX|Diao: dd 路由器的密码是啥啊
[07:36] <iMadper> MangHuo: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/731009/
[07:36] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 天猫双11预售：CHANGHONG 长虹 43A1 43英寸10核智能平板液晶电视 1950元（需99元定金）_天猫精选优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[07:36] <O0XX|Diao> MangHuo: dd路由器？
[07:36] <O0XX|Diao> MangHuo: dd还是小dd?
[07:36] <MangHuo> O0XX|Diao: 电磁炉的
[07:37] <O0XX|Diao> MangHuo: pm
[07:39] <onlylove1> MangHuo: 都用上电磁炉了？
[07:42] <MangHuo> onlylove1: 对啊
[07:44] * onlylove1 总是慢你们这些土豪好几年
[07:48] * yurakucho 我更慢
[07:49] * O0XX|Diao 我才慢
[07:54] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 别在这里扯淡了, 快点儿出发啊.
[07:54] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 不行啊，有活啊
[07:54] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 等我干完了才能走啊
[07:54] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 渣渣..
[07:54] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: CTO干毛的活儿
[07:55] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: CTO干毛的活儿
[07:55] <O0XX|Diao> O0XX|Diao: CTO干毛的活儿
[07:55] <iMadper> yurakucho: cto有秘书啊
[07:55] <iMadper> yurakucho: 不干完能走?>
[07:56] <iMadper> yurakucho: http://item.jd.com/1913310.html
[07:56] <onlylove_> O0XX|Diao: CTO干毛的活儿
[07:56] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 【松下TH-55CX500C】松下（Panasonic）TH-55CX500C 55英寸 4K超高清智能LED液晶电视（白色）【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东
[07:56] <yurakucho> iMadper: 这价格算贵还是便宜?
[07:57] <onlylove_> iMadper: 果然CEO想问题比我等打工的全面
[07:57] <yurakucho> iMadper: 这年头买非智能太困难了
[07:57] <iMadper> yurakucho: 便宜啊. 比大法的便宜啊.
[07:57] <iMadper> yurakucho: 根本买不到大屏幕的非智能了啊
[07:57] <iMadper> yurakucho: 你给我找一个?
[07:57] <yurakucho> iMadper: 确实难找
[07:58] <iMadper> yurakucho: 不是难找, 压根儿就没有了.
[07:58] <iMadper> yurakucho: 50以上, 4k, 非智能, 根本就找不到搜索结果
[07:59] <iMadper> yurakucho: 现在只能屏幕, 驱动版, 处理器一起挑了... 然后好的价格都贵.
[08:00] <yurakucho> iMadper: 确实没找到...
[08:00] <iMadper> yurakucho: 只能这种小电视了 http://item.jd.com/1283945.html
[08:00] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 【LG49LF5400】LG 49LF5400 49英寸 窄边 IPS硬屏 LED液晶电视【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东
[08:01] <iMadper> yurakucho: 其实49的也可以. 但是, 分辨率太低. 以后连个游戏机都开不了高画质.
[08:01] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 狗东家有非智能的55啊
[08:01] <yurakucho> iMadper: 小米那个分体也配不了单独有线机顶盒
[08:01] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 但是没有4k啊.
[08:01] <O0XX|Diao> 。。。
[08:01] * O0XX|Diao 要什么自行车啊
[08:01] * yurakucho 其实用不到4K吧
[08:01] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 别说话, 快干, 快过来
O0XX|Diao: 别说话, 快干, 快过来
[08:02] * O0XX|Diao 别说话, 快干, 干完快过来
[08:12] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: 新的天猫魔盒如何？
[08:12] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 没用过啊.
[08:12] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 我的旧的就很不错了
[08:15] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[08:15] <iMadper> MangHuo: http://www.mgpyh.com/recommend/0189113/
[08:15] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 微软（Microsoft） 智能手环 Microsoft Band $79.99 - 买个便宜货
[08:18] <O0XX|Diao> iMadper: dp转hdmi的线咋那么贵
[08:18] <cherrot> iMadper, 用得住么
[08:18] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 还行吧.
[08:18] <iMadper> cherrot: .
[08:18] <yunfan> onlylove1: 直接换种实现方式 验证的工作托管给了依赖库了
[08:19] <yunfan> O0XX|Diao: 智能的坑爹 我去年买了个 一年就坏了
[08:19] <onlylove1> yunfan: 刷之
[08:20] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 别说话, 快干huo, 快过来
[08:22] <onlylove1> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46073
[08:22] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | Linux内核被指缺乏安全性
[08:23] <onlylove1> 那些安全专家都是疯子
[08:34] <yurakucho> https://www.rt.com/news/320911-chinese-thief-calls-cops/
[08:34] <ubrl> yurakucho: ⇪ Catch me if Wuhan: Chinese robber turns himself in to cops after caught by angry athletes — RT News
[08:40] <ulot0> 各位朋友，有没有国外著名的邮箱，国内不翻墙就可以用的？推荐一个好邮箱
[08:45] <yurakucho> ulot0: outlook, yandex
[08:46] <ulot0> yurakucho, TKS
[08:46] <yurakucho> ulot0: 摸摸
[08:49] <alkaid1> .
[08:49] <ulot0> yurakucho, yandex打不开呢
[08:49] <yurakucho> ulot0: https://mail.yandex.com
[08:49] <ubrl> yurakucho: ⇪ Yandex.Mail — a free email service
[08:50] <onlylove1> yurakucho: 你应该推荐你自己的，在自己机器上起一个postfix
[08:51] <ulot0> yurakucho, 打不开
[08:51] <yurakucho> ulot0: 我这儿蛮好..
[08:51] <yurakucho> ulot0: 很简洁的邮箱
[08:52] <onlylove1> 我这边也可以，应该是isp问题
[08:52] <ulot0> yurakucho, 你用的DNS是多少／
[08:52] <yurakucho> ulot0: 母鸡啊, 电信默认的吧
[08:53] <ulot0> yurakucho, 我点了之后就不停的转啊转啊转啊
[08:55] <ulot0> 非常感谢两位。。。我先去跑步了
[08:55] <yurakucho> 乖
[08:56] <ulot0> bye
[08:58] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[09:02] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i5.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M09/00/08/Cg-4WFI2qYCIACFMAAD-tjTEcG4AALrFQPKP38AAP7O005.jpg 有创意才有新意
[09:13] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 该出发了吧
[09:13] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 嗯，半走，话说去哪？
[09:13] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 我直接过去
[09:13] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 不知道啊
[09:14] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 赶紧想，我直接过去
[09:14] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: MangHuo iMadper 想吃啥?
[09:14] <iMadper> yurakucho: 三兄弟?
[09:15] <iMadper> yurakucho: 炒菜 + 米饭?
[09:15] <yurakucho> iMadper: 阔以啊, 今天涮羊肉合适
[09:15] <iMadper> yurakucho: 新噶.
[09:15] <yurakucho> iMadper: 啥?
[09:15] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: iMadper 我还是想撸串啊
[09:16] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 也可以啊
[09:16] <iMadper> O0XX|Diao: 口以
[09:16] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 国展店 不要二店, 二店不能刷卡
[09:16] * yurakucho 我自己常去
[09:16] <O0XX|Diao> yurakucho: 好
[09:18] * onlylove1 坐看你们去腐败
[09:32] * tryit 想起了老北京的铜火锅……
[09:33] <yurakucho> O0XX|Diao: 我下线了, 微信联系哈
[10:09] <longlongago> onlylove make xxx/compile 这个compile是啥意思
[10:09] <alkaid1> hi 大家好 ，我问个问题 ，现在webqq停掉了，有没有什么软件可以adb连接手机获取QQ和微信消息提醒？
[10:09] <longlongago> 还有make V=99 这个V=99
[10:09] <alkaid1> compile 是编译 ， V=99 是详细程度
[10:10] <onlylove1> longlongago: 查字典
[10:11] <longlongago> alkaid1: 从哪可以查到这些？关键字是啥
[10:15] <onlylove1> longlongago: ./configure --help
[10:15] <onlylove1> longlongago: 配置文件里面有写
[10:19] <longlongago> onlylove1: 我都忘光了，这就是个自定义的玩意，还能用make love来编译呢，
[10:19] <longlongago> 只要在Makefile里写对应的东东即可
[10:20] <longlongago> 记忆力太差了
[10:29] <CloudFStrife> ls
[10:30] <October21> alkaid1: 微信可以网页啊
[10:31] <October21> 微信可以接受离线qq消息
[10:32] <Soengun> 1
[10:33] <Soengun> 1
[10:37] <guangzhen> CloudFStrife hello
[10:44] <yunfan> onlylove_: 厂家没有给刷机方法
[10:58] <ulot0> onlylove, yandex现在打开了
[12:07] <circ-user-7pMo9> hello,最近遇到一篇讲transcendent memory的文章，感觉这个技术未来前景不错了，结果现在没有啥进展了
[12:26] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[12:27] <Freebuilder> Realtek ALC1150 我大便 jessie 竟然没声音
[12:28] <Freebuilder> 内核版本更低的 Ubuntu 15.04 都有声音
[12:31] <Freebuilder> 这显示器把我桌面显示得好难看，我得换回原来的屏幕
[12:34] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • kubuntu怎么升级 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473734 球大神，kubuntu的升级命令是什么 zz: kldymcx — 2015-11-06 20:27
[12:41] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ apt-get install firmware-realtek
[12:41] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ 因为我也是用这个
[12:42] <Freebuilder> 哦
[12:42] <Freebuilder> 奇怪，我昨天也看过信息，好像没鸟关系的说。我试试先。
[12:46] <onlylove_> 到底忘了关一个客户端……
[12:46] <onlylove_> yunfan: ping
[12:47] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 无法将grub-pc安装到/target/中 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473735 [url][/url] zz: VickTcc — 2015-11-06 20:42
[12:52] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 没用啊，囧
[12:52] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 你的系统是 Debian jessie？
[12:55] <jimmy__> 有用qq的吗
[13:03] <Freebuilder> 囧
[13:13] <onlylove> Freebuilder: jessie咋了
[13:14] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 我这没声音
[13:14] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 内核版本更低的 Ubuntu 15.04 却有声音
[13:15] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 先把pa和alsa都装上再说，pa默认是mute的
[13:15] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 我不用 pa
[13:15] <Freebuilder> onlylove, alsa-utils 早装了，这基本尝试
[13:15] <Freebuilder> 常识
[13:15] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 那把alsa卸载换oss试试吧
[13:15] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 我不用pa也搞不定
[13:16] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 囧，搞那么大
[13:16] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 这事你骂开发pa那货去
[13:16] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 我没装 pa
[13:17] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 是他给挖的坑
[13:17] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 我知道你没装，
[13:17] <onlylove> Freebuilder: debian不知道怎么搞的，你不装就莫名其妙的有问题，你装了还莫名其妙的有问题
[13:18] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 这种问题在出pa之前是没有的，所以直接责任就是pa的
[13:18] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 就像systemd一样
[13:18] <Freebuilder> onlylove, alsamixer 里面 n 多项，就是没有 PCM 项
[13:19] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 那逼把推插入 alsa 了？
[13:19] <Freebuilder> 退
[13:19] <Freebuilder> 腿
[13:19] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 没有，debian不知道怎么弄的
[13:20] <Freebuilder> 我也觉得好奇怪
[13:20] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 所以你用 Ubuntu 了？
[13:20] <onlylove> Freebuilder: jessie，我装pa了，折腾了好一阵子
[13:21] <onlylove> Freebuilder: alsa不能软混音
[13:24] <vickycq-bpi> firmware-realtek 不是只有网卡驱动么
[13:29] <Freebuilder> vickycq-bpi, 我看说明也是
[13:39] <Freebuilder> 又跳闸了，你们能想象吗？
[13:39] <Freebuilder> 幸亏哥配了 UPS。
[13:46] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ 我用 8.2 amd64
[13:46] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 8.2 就是 jessie 了，我也是 amd64
[13:46] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 你什么主板？
[13:47] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ ASUS N53SN .. 自己找
[13:48] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 我的 ASUS B85-PRO GAMER
[13:48] <Freebuilder> 算了，改天重装看看
[13:50] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ 所以 那个包，必须安装， 加上， 应该安装前阅读 关于 firmware 那个章节，我就是安装了
[13:51] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 我装了，还是没用，再说，那个包的说明我只看到有网卡驱动
[13:52] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ linux firmware nonfree 和 free
[13:53] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 那两个早就装了
[13:53] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 装内核就带上了的
[13:54] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ 我安装的时候没有带上，我自己另外装的，用U盘
[13:55] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, 带了 free 那个，nonfree 是我指定安装的
[13:56] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ ,,是不是，你用 gnome3, 需要在 声音选择 输出 音频
[13:57] <Freebuilder> CyrusYzGTt, WM 党
[13:58] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ ,, 那就不清楚，了，，alsa pulse 你搜索相关包，可能有 驱动支持扩展， 比如 usb wifi bulez 的
[14:10] <Freebuilder> 我翻了 Arch 最新的固件包，里面没有这声卡的影子，这声卡应该不需要固件，可能只是内核里面的驱动问题。
[14:10] <CyrusYzGTt> Freebuilder§ realtek 公司出的声卡驱动 http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/
[14:10] <ubrl> CyrusYzGTt: ⇪ Realtek
[14:10] <CyrusYzGTt> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#High Definition Audio Codecs
[14:10] <ubrl> CyrusYzGTt: ⇪ Realtek
[14:11] <CyrusYzGTt> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=23&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#AC
[14:11] <ubrl> CyrusYzGTt: ⇪ 取标题超时 execution expired
[14:11] <CyrusYzGTt> 这个公司主要两种声卡驱动
[14:37] <yunfan> onlylove_: pong
[14:46] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[14:47] <yunfan> onlylove: 啥事
[14:47] <onlylove> yunfan: msg
[23:59] <^k^> 新 Arch发行版 • 利用arch配置一个pxe server,网络安装各种版本linux系统,各种版本windows系统! http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473736 想了半天也没有找到合适的板块发这个,最后还是发这里把! 最近折腾了两个小主机,华硕EeeBox B202,atom n270的u,1g的内存,80g的硬盘,机器挺小巧,就是单核u,功
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[07:56] <Kivi> dholbach, morning
[07:57] <dholbach> hi Kivi
[09:30] <DanChapman> morning all o/
[09:39] <andve> asd
[14:19] <Kivi> Happiness... :)
[16:12] <jplatte> Hi, is anybody online who works on the Music App?
[16:12] <jplatte> (core app)
[16:12] <ahayzen> jplatte, o/ i do
[16:13] <jplatte> ahayzen: I guess you are aware that the App currently can't find any new files on the SD card?
[16:14] <jplatte> I thought the app broke for me, but then I saw some reviews mentioning this as well. But it seems to be since a system update, not an App update?
[16:14] <ogra_> most likely not the apps fault
[16:14] <ahayzen> jplatte, i don't have a device with any SD card support but we have bug 1508873
[16:15] <ogra_> mediascanner is acting up in various ways recently it seems
[16:15] <ahayzen> it seems mediascanner2 has broken something for *many* people... expect popey ...
[16:15] <ahayzen> *except
[16:15] <popey> uh
[16:15] <ogra_> he's just lying :P
[16:15] <davmor2> ahayzen: hasn't broken for me either
[16:15] <popey> bug 1513756
[16:15] <popey> filed today
[16:15] <ahayzen> popey, but can yours could read files on the SD card?
[16:15] <popey> on OTA-7?
[16:16] <ahayzen> ok its broken for everyone except for QA and any devs lol
[16:16] <ahayzen> popey, yeah
[16:16] <jplatte> Well I still have my old files in the Music App
[16:16] <popey> yup
[16:16] <jplatte> Fortunately.. Although I tried about everything to reset the app because I thought that might help :D
[16:16] <ahayzen> comment #22 in bug 1508873 looks potentially like the issue
[16:17] <ahayzen> jplatte, would you be able to pastebin your mediascanner2.log or send it to me ?
[16:17] <jplatte> Yeah it's the corrent bug. Thanks :)
[16:17] <jplatte> ahayzen: Wanted to ask if I could help next. I'll gladly collect some logs :)
[16:17] <popey> what do i need to do? nuke the music, wipe ms2 db and put it back?
[16:18] <ahayzen> popey, people are just stating that they update to OTA7 and suddenly the music-app won't see anything on the SD card
[16:18] <davmor2> ahayzen: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/phone-screenshots/working-sdcard-scan.png see I have no music on the device only on sdcard
[16:18] <popey> odd
[16:18] <popey> i updated like a normal person
[16:18] <ahayzen> davmor2, thats the scope not music-app
[16:18] <popey> this is my retail bq phone
[16:18] <ahayzen> davmor2, that'll be using the cpp not qml mediascanner interface
[16:18] <ahayzen> popey, like a "normal" person ;-) lol
[16:19] <popey> I can be normal, sometimes.
[16:19] <jplatte> ahayzen: No the music app does see everything on the SD card that was added to the library previously
[16:19] <ahayzen> jplatte, oh your saying stuff that has been *added* cannot be seen?
[16:20] <jplatte> And even erasing the music apps config, cache, local/share data, and .local/share/mediascanner doesn't change that the old stuff is still there :D
[16:20] <jplatte> Yeah exactly
[16:21] <davmor2> ahayzen: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/phone-screenshots/working-music-app-sdcard.png
[16:21] <davmor2> :P
[16:21] <ahayzen> jplatte, i guess that could still be the same issue, it'd still be in the mediascanner db and then if it is having trouble mounting it then it wouldn't be able to scan it. If you could retrieve the log in ~/.cache/upstart/mediascanner-2.0.log that could be useful
[16:21] <ahayzen> davmor2, :-P
[16:21] <popey> (and older logs in there too)
[16:21] <popey> they may have been rotated out
[16:21] <ahayzen> ah yeah and that ;-)
[16:21] <popey> in my bug report I concatenated all the gzipped logs
[16:21] <jplatte> Okay, how do I copy files over adb?
[16:22] <jplatte> Actually...
[16:22] <popey> i use nautilus
[16:22] <ahayzen> adb pull /path/on/device /path/locally
[16:22] <davmor2> ahayzen: I also have all my music in the music app and scope on my dogfood phone that has been ota'd from ota2
[16:22] <ahayzen> davmor2, ok but if you now add something to the SD card does it get picked up?
[16:22] <jplatte> Heh
[16:22] <jplatte> remote object '/home/phablet/.cache/upstart/mediascanner-2.0.log' does not exist
[16:22] <ahayzen> i'm wondering if ms2 is infact looping and 'stuck' like it was on popey's so then its not finding anything new
[16:23] <jplatte> And no results for find -name "mediascanner*.log"
[16:23] <ahayzen> jplatte, you may have to $ ls | grep mediascanner that directory as popey said the logs may have been rotated
[16:23] <davmor2> ahayzen: let me try on my dogfood phone
[16:23] <ahayzen> davmor2, thanks
[16:23] <jplatte> Yeah okay, there are .log.*.gz files
[16:24] <ahayzen> yeah bring those over :-)
[16:25] <jplatte> Heh
[16:25] <jplatte> One error
[16:25] <jplatte> A lot of times
[16:26] <jplatte> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
[16:26] <jplatte> what(): UNIQUE constraint failed: media_attic.id
[16:26] <ahayzen> ah interesting
[16:26] <ahayzen> that's similar to what comment #22 said
[16:26] <ahayzen> jplatte, could you get a copy of the actual db itself as well? .. let me find the path
[16:27] <ahayzen> jplatte, /home/phablet/.cache/mediascanner-2.0/mediastore.db .. as that may be useful for the ms2 guys to debug with
[16:28] <davmor2> ahayzen: so I just copied across 5 folders of music and they all show in the music app
[16:28] <ahayzen> davmor2, interesting ... if you look at the end of this log https://launchpadlibrarian.net/223103287/mediascanner-2.0.log i see.. Volume /media/phablet/UBUNTU-SD was mounted.
[16:28] <ahayzen> terminate called without an active exception
[16:28] <popey> how are people copying the music?
[16:28] <popey> permissions?
[16:28] <jplatte> ahayzen: Posted in on the bug
[16:28] <ahayzen> the last thing on that log was .. Extracting metadata from /home/phablet/Videos/Gerald Troost - Ons moment.webm. .. popey when ms2 looped on your desktop was it scanning a webm ?
[16:29] <popey> haha
[16:29] <popey> yes
[16:29] <ahayzen> \o/
[16:29] <ahayzen> i blame that then :-P lol
[16:29] <popey> don't put webm on the phone, that'll kill mediascanner
[16:29] <popey> yes, that will do it
[16:29] <ahayzen> jplatte, do you have webm on your phone?
[16:29] <popey> bug 1513756
[16:29] <jplatte> Pretty certainly not
[16:29] <jplatte> But I'll check
[16:29] <davmor2> I used mtp
[16:30] <jplatte> argh
[16:30] <jplatte> mtp doesn't wanna work
[16:30] <jplatte> actually, a shell and find will serve me better for this anyway ^
[16:30] <jplatte> ^^
[16:31] <jplatte> FUUUUUU adb shell, FUUUUU
[16:31] <ahayzen> jplatte, can you add you latest ms2 log as well to the bug
[16:31] <jplatte> Okay, so I just checked, no .webm in /home/phablet or /media/phablet/SD\ 32GB
[16:31] <jplatte> Where do I find that log?ß
[16:31] <ahayzen> If you are copying via adb you should check the permissions are correct but i thought that worked now that adb goes to the phablet user
[16:32] <ahayzen> jplatte, that was the .cache/upstart/mediascanner*.log*.gz thing ?
[16:32] <jplatte> I'm confused
[16:32] <jplatte> Ooh ms2 = mediascanner 2 :D
[16:32] <ahayzen> yah
[16:33] <jplatte> so I should upload all the logs?
[16:33] <ahayzen> jplatte, you could but the bug already has like 10 logs .. maybe just extract the last one and post to pastebin.ubuntu.com then i can check it quickly
[16:35] <jplatte> what's the xzcat for gzip called?
[16:35] <jplatte> ugh, whatever will just copy the file
[16:36] <jplatte> http://pastie.org/10534469
[16:36] <ahayzen> hah ok :-)
[16:37] <ahayzen> jplatte, can go go through the files and find what the one where it first started erroring with that "what(): UNIQUE constraint failed: media_attic.id" ?
[16:38] <jplatte> what do you mean, going through the files?
[16:39] <ahayzen> jplatte, i assume you have .log.1.gz .log.2.gz .log.3.gz etc ?
[16:39] <jplatte> *sigh*
[16:39] <ahayzen> hah
[16:39] <ahayzen> which one was that log you posted from ?
[16:40] <jplatte> which what?
[16:40] <jplatte> which log file?
[16:40] <jplatte> .log.1.gz
[16:40] <ahayzen> ah cool
[16:40] <ahayzen> so what does the oldest one say ?
[16:40] <jplatte> wait I need to find out what xzcat for gzip is, copying via adb then unpacking with a graphical program is barbaric
[16:41] <ahayzen> yeah it is :-/
[16:41] <jplatte> Okay, it's z*
[16:41] <jplatte> so zcat, zmore, zless, ...
[16:41] <ahayzen> \o/
[16:42] <jplatte> the oldest one doesn't look any different
[16:43] <jplatte> but now I can tell you SINCE HOW LONG I HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS SHIT:
[16:43] <ahayzen> ok it most have been rotated out
[16:43] <jplatte> 2015-10-20 11:56:50.
[16:43] <jplatte> :D
[16:43] <ahayzen> :-)
[16:43] <ahayzen> we need a mediascanner person to look at this bug badly :-/
[16:44] <ogra_> and you think if he looks badly the bug gets scared and goes away ?
[16:45] <ahayzen> popey, anyway we can raise the priority of bug 1508873 its currently on the "image backlog", or should i include it in my mass email rant to the ms2 guys ;-) ?
[16:47] <popey> its in progress, right?
[16:47] <popey> and high, so, they know
[16:47] <ahayzen> "confirmed" and "high"
[16:47] <ahayzen> popey, but ideally we would want this in OTA8 otherwise it could be ages before this is fixed?
[16:48] <popey> I agree. pmcgowan ^
[16:48] <popey> pmcgowan is the magic wand that can raise priority on things IME
[16:48] <ahayzen> :-)
[16:49] <pmcgowan> popey, will look in a bit
[16:51] <jplatte> Somebody want to give me a bzr clone-or-whatever-it's-called URL for mediascanner? I'd like to look at the code but I think I'd need an hour to find it myself on launchpad :>
[16:51] <ahayzen> jplatte, https://code.launchpad.net/mediascanner2 and the bzr path lp:mediascanner2
[16:52] <jplatte> thanks
[16:52] <jplatte> heh, don't even have bzr installed
[16:52] <ahayzen> jplatte, even if you can find where/why it is exploding i'm sure that would help alot
[16:53] <jplatte> I'll see what I can do
[16:53] <jplatte> ^^°
[16:53] <ahayzen> thanks :-)
[16:53] <jplatte> What's clone called in bzr-land?
[16:53] <ahayzen> bzr branch lp:mediascanner2
[16:54] <jplatte> thanks
[16:59] <jplatte> Uhhh
[16:59] <jplatte> media_attic.id..
[17:00] <jplatte> INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
[17:00] <jplatte> are the mediascanner guys manually creating primary key IDs or does sqlite have auto-increment / serial without specifiying it explicitly??
[17:01] <ahayzen> jplatte, sqlite should auto-increment IIRC from the table it looks like it is auto done
[17:02] <jplatte> well the error message tells me that sqlite doesn't do that.. what part of it looks like it's auto-done?
[17:03] <jplatte> oh god, what is this sql table?
[17:03] <ahayzen> idk i haven't really looked
[17:03] <jplatte> it has fields for images, fields for audio files and potentially other stuff
[17:04] <jplatte> and everything that doesn't apply is just set to default
[17:04] <jplatte> or actually, maybe not default but 0
[17:04] <jplatte> because I don't see any `NOT NULL`s, so NULL should be default
[17:06] <jplatte> I'll backup the db and see what happens when mediascanner tries to create ir from scratch
[17:06] <jplatte> s/ir/it
[17:06] <ahayzen> jplatte, if jamesh is ever around on IRC he is the ms2 guy (note his timezone is Australia and he usually hangs around in #ubuntu-touch)
[17:06] <vthompson> jplatte, hey there. I work with ahayzen. What do you want to know?
[17:06] <ahayzen> jplatte, and vthompson maybe able to help ;-)
[17:07] <jplatte> can I force mediascanner to rerun?
[17:08] <vthompson> Yep "restart mediascanner-2.0" should still work
[17:09] <jplatte> what?
[17:09] <jplatte> /sbin/restart ?
[17:10] <jplatte> That says `restart: Unknown instance: `
[17:10] <jplatte> I also tried sudo service mediascanner-2.0 restart
[17:10] <jplatte> which didn't work either
[17:10] <jplatte> (unrecognized service)
[17:10] <vthompson> hm, let me connect to my device
[17:11] <ahayzen> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ restart mediascanner-2.0
[17:11] <ahayzen> mediascanner-2.0 start/running, process 9321
[17:11] <ahayzen> worked for me
[17:11] <ahayzen> oh maybe your mediascanner2 crashed and wasn't running?
[17:12] <jplatte> ooooh I have gdb on the UT device :)
[17:12] <jplatte> Of course it crashed, numerous times. Like the log says
[17:13] <ahayzen> IIRC you can run $ mediascanner-service-2.0 and that will run it in your console so you can see the output
[17:13] <jplatte> HEy I can start it directly :)
[17:13] <jplatte> Yeah that's what I meant
[17:13] <jplatte> So I can also run it in gdb, catch throw, and see where the error comes from! :)
[17:13] <ahayzen> \o/
[17:13] <jplatte> It takes aaages
[17:14] <jplatte> and I haven't even run it inside gdb yet
[17:14] <popey> yeah, ms2 runs as you, not root.
[17:14] <popey> so no need for sudo
[17:14] <jplatte> ooor I can't
[17:14] <jplatte> apparently it just throws constantly
[17:15] <vthompson> It worked for me. I'm on rc-proposed... but the service name shouldn't have changed
[17:15] <jplatte> using exceptions for control flow hooray
[17:15] <vthompson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13126319/
[17:15] <jplatte> Yeah start would probably work for me
[17:15] <jplatte> But now i wanna debug
[17:15] <vthompson> jplatte, cool
[17:16] <jplatte> Which is harder than it has to be because the things just constantly throws exceptions before getting to the actual problematic part
[17:16] <jplatte> And I'll have to go soon
[17:16] <jplatte> I'll see if I can limit the scope of catch throw somehow
[17:18] <vthompson> jplatte, so ms2 is repeated throwing exceptions? You see that in their log I assume?
[17:18] <jplatte> Nope
[17:18] <jplatte> Throwing exceptions doesn't mean they're logged
[17:18] <jplatte> WHAT
[17:19] <jplatte> I just looked at the function throwing exceptions for each file
[17:19] <jplatte> The first line in there... is a label for goto
[17:20] <jplatte> (I'm talking about Scanner::next())
[17:20] <jplatte> Yeah, control flow with exceptions: throw StopIteration();
[17:29] <jplatte> *sigh*
[17:29] <jplatte> I can't debug this properly
[17:30] <jplatte> No debugging symbols, exceptions are being thrown constantly...
[17:31] <jplatte> Hey wait, maybe I can. In a really awful way..
[17:39] <jplatte> If I would change to a -devel image, would that get me debugging symbols in mediascanner?
[17:40] <ahayzen> jplatte, probably not, IIRC you have to make your image writeable and then install the packages. But i'm no expert on that
[17:40] <jplatte> then install the packages? which packages?
[17:41] <jplatte> I have no problem with making the image writable. Are you saying I could build mediascanner myself, on the phone?
[17:41] <ahayzen> jplatte, possibly libmediascanner-2.0-dev
[17:41] <jplatte> Huh
[17:41] <jplatte> I'll see if that helps me, but I have a feeling it won't
[17:42] <ahayzen> yeah, hmm who would know how to get debug symbols on the device popey ?
[17:43] <jplatte> well I know, you get debugging symbols by building the library yourself, with the right compiler flags :D
[17:43] <jplatte> But I don't have a cross-compiler toolchain, have never used one with CMake and don't really want to anyway
[17:43] <jplatte> Though it would be interesting if I could build it on the device directly, I'll see if I can find gcc and cmake in the phone's repos
[17:44] <jplatte> Huh, yeah apparently they're available in the UT repos
[17:44] <jplatte> Let's see...
[17:44] <popey> we strip debug symbols unless specified otherwise
[17:44] <popey> I could probably build you a version of ms2 in a ppa which has dbgsym not stripped
[17:45] <jplatte> nah, I'll try to build it myself :)
[17:45] <popey> okay, ping if you need anything
[17:45] <popey> happy to help0
[17:45] <popey> <- note: not a developer
[17:45] <jplatte> thanks! :)
[17:45] <popey> np
[17:45] <popey> I personally build arm stuff in a chroot on my desktop
[17:47] <jplatte> good to know that there are people with a working cross-compiling setup :D
[17:48] <jplatte> do you know how to build apps using the normal framework with CMake for armhf too?
[17:49] <jplatte> I have been burned enough by the SDKs failure to even build for my smartphone to not use the SDK before there's a really big update, but maybe I could use the app skeleton I have and just work on it without the SKD?
[17:49] <jplatte> s/SKD/SDK
[17:49] <jplatte> Would be really nice, I don't like qtcreator anyway, and even had to set up a VM for all that stuff
[17:50] <jplatte> (I should probably mention: I'm now talking about my attempt to create a UT app, has nothing to do with mediascanner :D)
[17:51] <popey> i dont use qtcreator
[17:51] <popey> I use my own script for building stuff in the schroot
[17:51] <jplatte> But have you created / built UT apps?
[17:51] <popey> yeah
[17:51] <jplatte> cool
[17:52] <jplatte> well I think I'll have enough other stuff to do now and the next days, but I might ask you about that again :)
[17:52] <popey> click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create
[17:52] <popey> I think that is enough (if you have the sdk (ppa) installed) to create an armhf chroot in which to build stuff
[17:52] <popey> but yeah, ping me if you want help, happy to
[17:53] <mcphail> ahayzen: you don't need the debug symbols on the device
[17:53] <ahayzen> mcphail, jplatte is the one looking for help :-)
[17:53] <mcphail> aah
[17:53] <ahayzen> mcphail, jplatte is trying to get the debug symbols for mediascanner2
[17:54] <jplatte> popey: Oh okay, you're using click.
[17:54] <jplatte> Well then I probably still need to do everything in the VM, but whatever :)
[17:54] <popey> heh
[17:54] <popey> I also sometimes sacrifice a nexus 7 to build on
[17:54] <popey> but I rarely do that these days because it's s o s l o w
[17:54] <mcphail> jplatte: if there is a .ddeb available for mediascanner2, you can simply download and unpack that on your build machine. You can the point gdb at the symbols
[17:55] <jplatte> mcphail: Oh, well that sounds useful
[17:55] <jplatte> Buut I have no clue if there is a .ddeb available for mediascanner2, or where to search for it
[17:57] <mcphail> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash gives some pointers
[17:58] <popey> if ms2 is in the overlay ppa, bet there is no ddeb
[17:58] <popey> because ppa
[17:58] <mcphail> aah - of course
[17:58] <jplatte> *sigh*
[17:58] <jplatte> TLS 1.0
[17:58] <jplatte> why does everyone use outdated TLS? :D
[17:59] <jplatte> anyway, apparently that doesn't help?
[17:59] <jplatte> because ppa?
[17:59] <jplatte> but building on the device also is running into problems at the moment
[17:59] <popey> yeah, the phone is on 15.04 of ubuntu with extras added via a ppa
[17:59] <jplatte> installing -dev packages doesn't help cmake find the header files apparently
[18:00] <mcphail> jplatte: you make have to hack the pkg-config search path
[18:01] <jplatte> oh, okay
[18:01] <jplatte> where are the pkgconfig files installed to=
[18:03] <mcphail> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/pkgconfig/
[18:21] <vthompson> ahayzen, you want to review this? lp:~vthompson/music-app/fix-1511585-part-2
[18:21] <vthompson> AP is still broken
[18:21] <ahayzen> vthompson, ah yes :-)
[18:21] <vthompson> :)
[18:22] <ahayzen> vthompson, is that the new ms2 package that appeared in rc-proposed :')
[18:22] <ahayzen> vthompson, mediascanner2.0/vivid 0.108+15.04.20151102-0ubuntu1 armhf [upgradable from: 0.107+15.04.20150922.1-0ubuntu1] right ?
[18:22] <vthompson> It should be
[18:22] <ahayzen> as my lappy is still vivid so have to use device to test
[18:23] <vthompson> Yep, the 20151102 update
[18:23] <ahayzen> coolio i'll update and run AP
[18:23] <vthompson> Godspeed ;)
[18:47] <jplatte> *sigh*
[18:47] <jplatte> libdbus-cpp-dev is installed and the .pc file is there, cmake doesn't find it (but finds all other packages)
[18:47] <jplatte> actually, it finds all other pkg-config packages
[18:48] <jplatte> doesn't find qt5core, but haven't tried installing something there, don't know what to install
[18:48] <jplatte> gonna give up for today
[23:54] <jplatte> > popey: I could probably build you a version of ms2 in a ppa which has dbgsym not stripped
[23:54] <jplatte> Was just remembering this. I don't really know how I'd continue trying to build it myself, so would be nice if I didn't have to ^^
[23:55] <jplatte> I'll go to bed soon and won't be online until tomorrow late evening (CET) though.
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-devel
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[01:50] <psusi> wasn't there a tag to assign to bugs related to the dmraid -> mdadm transition for intel fakeraids?
[05:55] <krypto> i have follwing cgroups defined in cgconfig.conf and cgrules.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/13122187/ but i dont know how to tell libvirt use that instead of creating seperate "machine" group.Can some one please help me with this?
[05:55] <krypto> in centos its in /etc/sysconfig/libvirt but not sure what to add in /etc/default/libvirt
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[08:48] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: The diff on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1513754 are the changes we need to move more building on to Launchpad.
[08:49] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: wgrant: You may also be interested in ^.
[09:17] <Mirv> dholbach: hey, if around could you do ./copy-package --from=~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/landing-021 --from-suite=xenial --to=ubuntu --to-suite=xenial-proposed -b unity-api ? we're working around a mistaken commit in a branch by manual copying, and publishing a QA approved silo (https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/564)
[09:17] <dholbach> Mirv, I don't think I have access to whatever requires ./copy-package to be run
[09:17] <Mirv> I copied the PPA ones + all others for xenial which were universe, but that one package is in main
[09:17] <dholbach> I'm not an archive admin
[09:17] <Mirv> dholbach: you don't need to be
[09:18] <Mirv> dholbach: you can copy any package you'd have upload rights to, like I did for those universe packages (https://lists.canonical.com/archives/xenial-changes/2015-November/thread.html)
[09:18] <Mirv> the command only complains if one tries to copy to real xenial instead of proposed
[09:19] <Laney> you get it from lpubuntu-archive-tools
[09:20] <dholbach> ok, I'll take a look
[09:20] <dholbach> just a sec
[09:20] <Mirv> thanks. I only selected you since you said good morning here so I thought you'd be around :)
[09:22] <dholbach> :)
[09:22] <dholbach> Mirv, done
[09:24] <Mirv> dholbach: thanks! Saviq ^ all done now
[09:40] <rbasak> pinba-engine-mysql FTBFS on some architectures is blocking mysql-5.6 from proposed migration. The issue is forwarded upstream but currently doesn't have a resolution
[09:41] <rbasak> Opinions on forcing it and dropping pinba-engine-mysql from those architectures?
[09:41] <rbasak> (the Debian maintainer forwarded it)
[09:45] <cjwatson> rbasak: well, we shouldn't force it in proposed-migration, but yeah, I'm somewhat inclined to remove it from the affected architectures. let me look
[09:45] <cjwatson> I know I synced it, doko had previously reverted it, had been meaning to look anyway
[09:45] <cjwatson> rbasak: could you remind me of a reference to the upstream bug?
[09:46] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: thanks, looking
[09:47] <rbasak> cjwatson: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793511 and https://github.com/tony2001/pinba_engine/issues/40
[09:49] <cjwatson> rbasak: thanks, nuked from xenial
[09:49] <cjwatson> (on 32-bit arches)
[09:55] <rbasak> cjwatson: thank you!
[09:59] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: uploaded
[09:59] <cjwatson> thanks for the long patch!
[10:32] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Thanks!
[10:40] <roaksoax_> pitti: howdy! is there a way to tell adt to build different packages when passing --unbuilt-tree ?
[10:41] <roaksoax_> pitti: right now we are saying "--unbuilt-tree=$PATH/maas" and 'maas' is the source, that contrais debian/ inside
[10:41] <roaksoax_> pitti: however, I not only want to build MAAS, but I also want to build another package *before* maas
[10:43] <roaksoax_> pitti: i.e: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13123203/
[10:54] <roaksoax_> pitti: or is there another way to insert dependencies?
[11:10] <Shock> hi
[11:12] <Shock> I found a bug regarding the adding of routes related to multiple IPs on the same interface, but I'm not sure if I should report it for network-manager or linux. can you help me?
[12:14] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Would you expect powerpc cloud images to have UEFI and a PReP partition a la ppc64el?
[12:15] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: FFS, s/UEFI/GPT/.
[12:15] <Odd_Bloke> Some day I will stop conflating those two things.
[12:16] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Or would a single-partition MBR (a la amd64/i386 -disk1 images) be what you would expect?
[12:40] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: I'm not sure about the exact firmware details, but I suspect what would work best would be MBR with a PReP partition, so part-way between the two options you gave.
[12:40] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: infinity might have a clearer idea.
[12:40] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: It's possible that UEFI might work, but it will probably depend on the firmware ...
[12:40] <cjwatson> Maybe it's safe to assume a new enough slof.
[12:41] <cjwatson> Err, GPT not UEFI. Now you've got me doing it. :-P
[12:49] <Odd_Bloke> :D
[12:50] <Odd_Bloke> OK, I'll try using the ppc64el codepath (because that's easy). And then if we decide that we can't do that, I can look at doing something else.
[13:06] <pitti> roaksoax_: in principle you can run another test (including build) before the maas argument, yes
[13:07] <pitti> roaksoax_: or if you don't want to run the tests for those, just give adt-run the extra locally built .debs *before* the --unbuilt-tree, then these debs will be taken into consideration for the maas test
[13:33] <ogra_> cjwatson, i just had a "temporary failure in name resolution" for ftpmaster during a PPA build (retry worked fine but i thought you might want to know )
[13:33] <cjwatson> ogra_: thanks, not concerned right now (at a conference) if it isn't persistent
[13:33] <ogra_> k
[13:48] <roaksoax_> pitti: ok, great! Thanks!
[13:51] <roaksoax_> pitti: so basically, doing something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13124111/
[14:08] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: https://launchpad.net/~cloud-images-release-managers/+livefs/ubuntu/xenial/cpc/+build/42512 \o/
[14:11] <elbrus> is Martin Pitt around?
[14:12] <seb128> elbrus, he's pitti on IRC
[14:12] <Odd_Bloke> pitti: ^
[14:12] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: whee
[14:13] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: do you have a way to test that this actually does something useful? :-)
[14:14] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Not really; I was sort of hoping you did. :p
[14:17] <cjwatson> infinity: ^- can you help out?
[14:19] <elbrus> pitti: /me is looking at auto-pkg-test failures for dbconfig-common
[14:19] <elbrus> last time you send me a patch.
[14:20] <elbrus> I was wondering if the failure is related to $TMP(which I removed from the command)
[14:23] * elbrus wonders how much work it is to set up an environment where I can properly test my auto-pkg-tests such that they don't need to fail for Debian and Ubuntu
[14:24] <cjwatson> elbrus: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test isn't too bad last I checked; I expect it isn't *too* much harder for Debian ...
[14:31] <elbrus> cjwatson: last time I looked I couldn't get qemu stuff working on my computer, so I don't want to spend much time in that direction. lxc works great here however, so if that can trivially be hooked up...
[14:31] <cjwatson> qemu> !
[14:31] <elbrus> it is mentioned (but not explained how)
[14:32] <cjwatson> you might find that the slew of options autopkgtests passes to qemu all by itself means you don't have to spend much time on that
[14:32] <cjwatson> maybe you just weren't using the right options ... qemu has lots
[14:34] <elbrus> ok, let me look at that after my current project than.
[14:40] <pitti> elbrus: hey
[14:41] <pitti> elbrus: man adt-virt-qemu explains how to build a suitable VM for sid
[14:41] <pitti> elbrus: https://people.debian.org/~mpitt/autopkgtest/README.running-tests.html (or in /usr/share/doc/autopkgtest/) explains teh available runners
[14:41] <elbrus> pitti: did you already look at dbconfig-common by any chance?
[14:41] <pitti> elbrus: lxc is fine, as long as you don't have a test which needs to twiddle kernel-y things (dbconfig shold be fine)
[14:42] <pitti> that should even get along fine with a simple schroot
[14:42] <pitti> elbrus: no, not yet, sorry
[14:42] <elbrus> no, I mean I should look at it myself instead of you
[14:42] <pitti> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/d/dbconfig-common/
[14:42] <pitti> indeed, recent regression
[14:42] <elbrus> (Debian mentality here ;))
[14:43] <pitti> elbrus: that'd be great (I don't have much time right now, sprint and all)
[14:43] <pitti> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/share’: Permission denied
[14:43] <pitti> ASSERT:expected:<1.8 1.10 1.10.1 1.10.2 1.11 1.12> but was:<>
[14:43] <pitti> that's hopefully not too difficult to reproduce/understand for you?
[14:43] <elbrus> do you think it could be related to TMP not being set by me anymore?
[14:43] <pitti> looks like this is new in 1.8.55
[14:44] <pitti> elbrus: sure, if that mkdir does something like mkdir $TMP/share
[14:44] <mterry> chiluk, ever find another sponsor? I can look at coreutils now
[14:44] <chiluk> rtg took a quick look, but he got scared away.. so mterry that would be fantastic.
[14:44] <elbrus> the regression doesn't make sense for anything in the "normal" code and the regression test runs fine for me...
[14:45] <elbrus> so I believe it must be the env that is different
[14:45] <mterry> chiluk, so this patch was different, did you have to backport more commits, or just make some minor adjustments or what?
[14:45] <chiluk> rtg wanted me to split out each individual commit into it's own patch, but I think that would be more trouble than it's worth since almost all of those patches rewrite the filter_list function over and over again
[14:45] <pitti> elbrus: we've never set $TMP explicitly in the tests
[14:45] <chiluk> mterry I had to backport another 6 or so prereq patches.
[14:46] <chiluk> the patches to the mountlist function are fairly similar..
[14:46] <chiluk> df needed a bunch more work.
[14:46] <mterry> chiluk, ick yeah. I'm on board with one patch. Not like they will be removed one by one later
[14:46] <elbrus> pitty: now, but my old testcase had it in the command, but I thought it wasn't really needed
[14:47] <chiluk> right.. it would make it easier to review in whole later.
[14:47] <elbrus> apparently it is for the auto-pkg-test framework
[14:47] <mterry> chiluk, not that trusty is a moving target really :)
[14:47] <chiluk> mterry .. may i suggest patching the sources, and then comparing the result with upstream at the last patch..
[14:47] <mterry> chiluk, good idea :)
[14:48] <mterry> nice that we're in sync with upstream then
[14:48] <chiluk> i.e. compare the df.c patch with http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=coreutils.git;a=commit;h=3babaf83875ceac896c8dd3a64248e955dfecef9
[14:49] <chiluk> and compare mountlist.c at http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=coreutils.git;a=commit;h=3babaf83875ceac896c8dd3a64248e955dfecef9
[14:49] <chiluk> mterry ^^
[14:49] <elbrus> pitti: I should have said TMPDIR...
[14:50] <pitti> elbrus: ah; adt-run did set that some years ago, but this was dropped a long time ago, not in the last month
[14:50] <chiluk> mterry I originally wanted to find all the cherry-picks, but that quickly became not as useful because of all the patch overwriting
[14:50] <elbrus> pitti: what SHOULD I use as TMPDIR
[14:50] <elbrus> when I need one?
[14:50] <pitti> elbrus: I don't know; what's not good enough about /tmp?
[14:50] <elbrus> don't know, why is it not set then?
[14:50] <pitti> elbrus: I don't know why you need a $TMPDIR, so that's hard to answer
[14:51] <elbrus> a place to store temporary stuff ;)
[14:51] <pitti> -Test-Command: TMPDIR=/tmp test/runtests.sh
[14:51] <pitti> +Test-Command: test/runtests.sh
[14:51] <pitti> ah
[14:51] <pitti> so if you explicitly use $TMPDIR without a fallback, but don't set it any more, there's the problem :)
[14:51] <elbrus> indeed
[14:52] <pitti> elbrus: mkdir(1), mkstemp() etc. all default to /tmp
[14:52] <elbrus> well, fallback is the empty string
[14:52] <pitti> right, but then mkdir $TMPDIR/share will be /share
[14:52] <pitti> you probably either want something like
[14:52] <pitti> myworkdir=$(mktemp -d)
[14:52] <pitti> or perhaps use ${TMPDIR:-/tmp}
[14:52] <elbrus> ok, I will fix the test framework to do a proper fallback with mktmp
[14:53] <chiluk> mterry then I'll poke pitti or arges to approve the SRU after your review.
[14:53] <pitti> or just hardcode /tmp/workdir/
[14:53] <elbrus> yeah, I like ${TMPDIR:-/tmp}
[14:53] <pitti> elbrus: ^ this is bad style for production code (susceptible to symlink attacks and DoS), but probably tolerable for test code
[14:53] <pitti> elbrus: oh, perhaps you meant $ADTTMP
[14:53] <elbrus> indeed
[14:53] <pitti> elbrus: you can use that, it's created/cleaned for every test, and it's owned by you
[14:54] <elbrus> could I do that TMPDIR=$ADTMP in the command line?
[14:54] <pitti> elbrus: sure
[14:54] <elbrus> or does the command line not resolve variables?
[14:55] <elbrus> pitti: I mean in the "Test-Command" line
[14:55] <pitti> elbrus: it does, it's a normal shell string
[14:56] <mterry> chiluk, where is lib/mountlist.c in coreutils trunk?
[14:56] <pitti> elbrus: you used that before, after all
[14:56] <chiluk> mterry that's part of the gnulib trung
[14:56] <elbrus> nope: I just set it, not use an other variable in it
[14:56] <chiluk> mterry debian takes both the gnulib and coreutils projects and merges them into the coreutils package
[14:56] <elbrus> but ok, I will just update the test-command line then
[14:57] <mterry> chiluk, ah right... humph
[14:57] <pitti> elbrus: it'd be the first test that uses $ADTTMP in the Test-Command:, but it ought to work and is certainly meant to
[14:57] <chiluk> mterry http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=gnulib.git;a=commit;h=c6148bca89e9465fd6ba3a10d273ec4cb58c2dbe
[14:57] <pitti> elbrus: thanks!
[14:57] <elbrus> np
[15:16] <mterry> chiluk, so I'm on board with the patch itself. But building it in a pbuilder failed on some tests. Trying to figure out why, but have you seen anything similar?
[15:16] <chiluk> pbuilder doesn't build coreutils well.
[15:16] <chiluk> mterry use sbuild.
[15:16] <chiluk> I hit the same issue.
[15:16] <mterry> humph
[15:17] <chiluk> yeah we should probably care, but I just moved to sbuild for coreutils
[15:17] <chiluk> mterry++ for test building!
[15:18] <mterry> chiluk, yeah except I'm just going to trust your build rather than moving to sbuild ;)
[15:18] <chiluk> mterry now I'm scared...
[15:18] * chiluk goes to build it one more time for shits and giggles.
[15:19] <elbrus> pitti: just a thought, could the results of auto-pkg-test not be made more visible, e.g. in the launchpad page of the source of a package?
[15:20] <elbrus> now everytime I need to search where again these results are stored (no I don't bookmark a lot)
[15:20] <pitti> elbrus: we certainly could; just didn't happen so far
[15:20] <elbrus> I believe it is worth it
[15:21] <elbrus> other question, how long does a package stay in the proposed slot if auto-pkg-test doesn't fail?
[15:21] <elbrus> I mean, if it is there, can I assume the test failed?
[15:22] <pitti> elbrus: we don't have time based migration; as soon as it's built, installable, and tests succeed it lands
[15:22] <cjwatson> LP doesn't currently have good support for linking to artifacts outside LP
[15:22] <pitti> elbrus: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#dbconfig-common
[15:22] <cjwatson> we'd like to have that so that LP itself doesn't have to grow so much, but we don't really yet
[15:22] <pitti> elbrus: you see there's no excuse for "too young", we don't do that
[15:22] <cjwatson> William did some work recently on generalising cross-references, with an eye towards supporting this better in the future
[15:22] <elbrus> cjwatson, pitti: ack
[15:28] <infinity> cjwatson, Odd_Bloke: I can give that a try in a VM and see what it does.
[15:28] <chiluk> mterry yes built fine, with pristine sources for me.
[15:28] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Yes please!
[15:28] <mterry> chiluk, nice
[15:28] <mterry> chiluk, commented on bug, uploaded to trusy
[15:28] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: I assume it's a "proper" cloud image with cloud init and such and will do Bad Things without a fake data source or whatever?
[15:28] <chiluk> yeah it's a pbuilder sbuild issue somehow.
[15:29] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Yep.
[15:30] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: The disk is created using the same codepath as ppc64el; cjwatson thought that disk format might be an option, and it was easy to create so that's what I did.
[15:30] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: If we need to do something different (e.g. MBR rather than GPT), that's doable. :)
[15:31] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: GPT should work fine. I just have to remember how to boot a cloud image. :P
[15:32] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: If I'm testing stuff in a published image, I do it in a cloud because they remember how to do that for me. :p
[15:33] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Yeah, well, chickens and eggs. I'm just testing with raw qemu to see if it does a thing.
[15:33] <Odd_Bloke> It will not work on a chicken.
[15:34] <ogra_> cloudy chicken ?
[15:43] <seb128> bdmurray, hey, the nautilus retracing in 15.10 seem to fail, do you know why? e.g https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/d3c6ff4abc2efa01df5d1b7e2c89932a61eabe27
[15:45] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: No dice. Drops me to a grub CLI.
[15:46] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Sadface. Is there a way I can reproduce the boot problem?
[15:48] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Do you have access to the power test network in 1SS? (can you connect to 10.245.64.15?)
[15:50] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Doesn't look like it.
[15:50] <infinity> Odd_Bloke: Might want to ask IS nicely if you can get VPN/firewall access to it. Then I can give you root on a host to fiddle.
[15:55] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Ack; RT opened.
[15:57] <elbrus> pitti: $ dput ssh-upload ~/tmp/packages/dbconfig-common_1.8.56_source.changes # done
[16:03] <pitti> elbrus: \o/ cheers
[16:03] <pitti> elbrus: oh, do source uploads for arch:all now work for Debian?
[16:03] <elbrus> let's see if it works (didn't test that)
[16:03] <elbrus> yes
[16:03] <elbrus> only restriction is you can't do it with packages that go throu NEW (but that is also true for arch:any)
[16:06] <bdmurray> seb128: I'll have a look.
[16:06] <seb128> bdmurray, thanks
[16:07] <bdmurray> seb128: It has a bunch of ?? () in the retraced Stacktrace
[16:08] <seb128> bdmurray, same for https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/38f94b04b1728eb78d82f272f0a7ec8d53ec8bab and https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/bb3d8512e950429cd93b4fdea436327758d988bb ?
[16:11] <bdmurray> seb128: yeah
[16:12] <seb128> bdmurray, do you know if any debug symbol is missing or something?
[16:13] <bdmurray> seb128: a couple mention libibus-1.0-5, libuuid1, libgirepository-1.0-1.
[16:14] <seb128> those shouldn't matter for the top of the stacktrace...
[16:14] <bdmurray> seb128: right
[16:25] <slangasek> doko_, infinity, dannf: is there any known breakage with the neon implementation on our armhf autobuilders and/or cady? ffmpeg FTBFS with a neon test failure which doesn't fail in Debian unstable; ffmpeg itself is supposed to dynamically detect whether neon is present, and appears to be doing that correctly based on /proc/cpuinfo, so the test would be skipped if neon were not available
[16:27] <dannf> slangasek: not known breakage; is this exynos5? I know we did a lot of performance testing back in the day w/ neon enabled and didn't have any problems. so, neon is there, but perhaps it is buggy
[16:27] <slangasek> er, rather - the test would fail if built on a machine without neon, but the code itself would runtime-detect
[16:27] <infinity> slangasek: The highbanks are NEON-capable and should be fine.
[16:27] <slangasek> dannf: cady is exynos5. I don't know about the builders
[16:27] <dannf> builders are highbank
[16:28] <slangasek> ok, so why does this NEON test explicitly pass in Debian and fail in Ubuntu
[16:28] <dannf> or midway - one of the calxedas
[16:28] <infinity> slangasek: Debian's builders might not be NEON-capable, you might be debugging it backwards.
[16:28] <ogra_> yeah
[16:28] <slangasek> infinity: no, the Debian build log shows the NEON test running and passing
[16:28] * ogra_ was about to say that
[16:28] <slangasek> which AFAICS it wouldn't be able to pass if Debian's builders were non-NEON; if I'm reading right it would give invalid instruction
[16:29] <infinity> It wouldn't just skip the test and claim a pass?
[16:29] <slangasek> infinity: by my read, no; #if HAVE_NEON (which the log shows is true), call the neon function
[16:29] <infinity> Hrm.
[16:29] <slangasek> anyway
[16:30] <slangasek> if there are no known problems w/ neon on these boxes, I'll continue digging - thanks
[16:32] <infinity> Certainly none that I've run into.
[16:32] <infinity> We build and test a lot of NEON code.
[16:32] <infinity> And the highbanks are pretty much just stock A9s, nothing sketchy going on with the core design.
[16:33] <ogra_> are there actually still non-NEON v7 arches that we support ?
[16:33] <ogra_> probably it is time to re-visit the defaults of this anyway
[16:34] <infinity> ogra_: Well, "the defaults" don't need to change even if we revisit (which, yes, I wanted to do for 16.04), just the "disable NEON where it's on by default upstream" thing could change.
[16:35] <infinity> Auto-vectorization with NEON still sucks, so the toolchain shouldn't ever change.
[16:35] <ogra_> ah, k
[16:35] <ogra_> yeah, i meant the toolchain/compiler opts
[16:35] <infinity> No one cares about Tegra1, AFAIK, the only other interesting target is some older Armadas.
[16:35] <infinity> I think the newer Armadas have NEON.
[16:36] <ogra_> right, both of them is what i'd consider dead by now :)
[16:36] <infinity> But I meant to draft a mail about it and gather some data and opinions before changing our position.
[16:37] * ogra_ is all for switching ...
[16:38] <dannf> doko_: do you know if this was ever submitted upstream? looks like i might have a need to sru it back to trusty - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=785756
[16:43] <doko_> slangasek, I don't know about any
[16:46] <dscastro> hello, i have random crashes on my apache, i managed to get the stack http://www.fpaste.org/287684/44682637/
[16:51] <infinity> dscastro: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+filebug
[17:13] <chiluk> mterry https://launchpadlibrarian.net/224248565/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-ppc64el.coreutils_8.23-3ubuntu1.1_BUILDING.txt.gz do you know if this is valid?
[17:19] <mterry> chiluk, failed on test-lock?
[17:19] <chiluk> yeah that doesn't make any sense to me.
[17:21] <chiluk> I'm really quite confused because it builds for every other arch including wily
[17:21] <chiluk> mterry did you happen to turn that test off for the wily upload?
[17:21] <chiluk> I just wonder if there was a coincidence..
[17:22] <mterry> chiluk, I don't think it was that test that got changed
[17:22] <chiluk> maybe it was a fluke build failure?
[17:23] <chiluk> I wonder if infinity has any clue why it might be failing on ppc64el
[17:23] <chiluk> infinity: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/224248565/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-ppc64el.coreutils_8.23-3ubuntu1.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[17:23] <chiluk> infinity it's only failing on ppc64el, and mostly the same code works in wily...
[17:23] <chiluk> I don't think my patch affected that test at all.
[17:24] <caribou> cyphermox: LP: #1491894 has the debdiff for the review we've made yesterday
[17:25] <seb128> doko, what's the right component to report the fact that gdb doesn't work when python-scripts is loaded?
[17:26] <cyphermox> caribou: great.
[17:30] <doko> seb128, gdb
[17:30] <seb128> doko, thanks
[17:34] <infinity> chiluk: Dunno off the top of my head, but a hint for you is that ppc64el is the only arch that builds -O3 by default, the rest are -O2.
[17:35] <infinity> chiluk: It could also just be a cosmic rays oops. I'll retry it.
[17:36] <chiluk> thanks infinty
[17:45] <infinity> chiluk: Worked on a retry.
[18:03] <pitti> utlemming: how does the net.ifnames=0 get into a cloud-image boot? I don't see it in the cloud-init package
[18:04] <pitti> utlemming: my images got broken as I purged cloud-init and rebooted, then the network names changed
[18:09] <ogra_> pitti, livecd-rootfs revision 1219
[18:10] <pitti> ah, so it's the image build process
[18:10] <ogra_> -GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="console=tty1 console=ttyS0"
[18:10] <ogra_> +GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="console=tty1 console=ttyS0 net.ifnames=0"
[18:10] <ogra_> seems it mangles /etc/default/grub
[18:12] <pitti> so I wonder how it's not there any more after a reboot
[18:12] <seb128> doko, k, so the gdb issue might be 32bits specific
[18:12] <seb128> File "/usr/share/gdb/python/gdb/FrameDecorator.py", line 97, in function
[18:12] <seb128> if not isinstance(self._base, gdb.Frame)
[18:12] <seb128> OverflowError: Python int too large to convert to C long
[18:13] <ogra_> pitti, well, do you see it in /etc/default/grub ?
[18:13] <seb128> doko, unsure why it's starting in xenial/with the python default change
[18:13] <seb128> barry, ^ you might know?
[18:14] <pitti> ogra_: ah, I have a /etc/default/grub.d/, and that doesn't have this change
[18:14] <ogra_> aha
[18:14] <fossterer> Hi! I've been using 15.10 daily builds so far. Now that 16.04 daily-builds are getting ready, is there a way for me to move to 16.04?
[18:14] <barry> seb128: yes, that's a 32bit thing. i had the same problem in system-image way back when
[18:14] <pitti> meh
[18:14] <ogra_> fossterer, sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[18:14] <pitti> so this hack ripples through everything using cloud images now
[18:14] <ogra_> that should get you onto the development release (if update-manager already knows about it)
[18:15] <seb128> barry, do you know what changed between wily and xenial that it starts being an issue now only?
[18:15] <fossterer> ogra_: Can you use it to upgrade an installed 'daily-build' ?
[18:15] <ogra_> pitti, yeah, sadly using the "hooks" subdir for hack in livecd-roofs has become a common practice :(
[18:15] <ogra_> *for hacks
[18:15] <barry> seb128: sorry, is that in gdb?
[18:16] <seb128> barry, yes
[18:16] <seb128> barry, File "/usr/share/gdb/python/gdb/FrameDecorator.py", line 97, in function
[18:16] <seb128> if not isinstance(self._base, gdb.Frame)
[18:17] <jtaylor> ah problem in gdb/python in xenial is that the frameobject is optimized out now
[18:17] <jtaylor> very annoying
[18:17] <jtaylor> might be related
[18:17] <seb128> barry, gdb didn't change though, it just got a non change rebuild with the new python default
[18:18] <jtaylor> I wonder if doko would accept a patch to python to keep the object not removed, I doubt it has performance relevance
[18:19] <seb128> jtaylor, what do you mean optimized out? is there a report about that?
[18:19] <seb128> jtaylor, also gdb didn't change so why/how did that change?
[18:19] <barry> seb128: yeah, my question too :)
[18:20] <jtaylor> let me have a look, reproducable how?
[18:21] <seb128> reported bug #1513922
[18:21] <seb128> jtaylor, use i386, "gdb <binary>", run, ctrl-C, bt
[18:22] <jtaylor> hm that looks more like a bug in gdb
[18:23] <jtaylor> 0xffffffff is a bit strange address
[18:23] <seb128> yeah, i'm just wondering why it was working in wily
[18:23] <jtaylor> isn't that range reserved for kernel?
[18:24] * jtaylor needs to create a chroot first
[18:25] <fossterer> Ok,Thanks for responding, ogra_!
[18:25] <fossterer> I'll try with 'do-release-upgrade'
[18:29] <jtaylor> seb128: which binary did you use?
[18:29] <jtaylor> i386 kernel too?
[18:30] <seb128> yes for the kernel
[18:30] <seb128> binary I tried different ones
[18:30] <seb128> initially nautilus
[18:30] <seb128> but it does the same on e.g gnome-calculator
[18:31] <seb128> jtaylor, does the same with "vim"
[18:32] <seb128> (attaching an instance open elsewhere)
[18:32] <jtaylor> I only have an amd64 kernel available maybe I won't see it
[18:34] <jtaylor> weird that you get such a number, I think the userspace max address should be 0xbfffffff on 32 bit
[18:34] <seb128> yeah
[18:35] <slangasek> doko, infinity, dannf: fwiw the ffmpeg build failure is reproducible on armhf with the previous version of ffmpeg on xenial, so looks like a toolchain regression
[18:38] <pitti> ogra_: thanks for pointing out
[18:38] <ogra_> :)
[18:38] <pitti> utlemming: I now added a counter-hack in autopkgtest, but meh not pretty; I added a task to bug 1510345, can we clean this up for xenial?
[18:43] <jtaylor> seb128: fwiw I think the bug is in py-framefilter.c:1103 which is missing an overflow check
[18:43] <jtaylor> but I'm clueless where the number comes from, probably need to fix gdb first to see that :)
[18:55] <seb128> jtaylor, can you comment on the bug saying that?
[18:56] <jtaylor> I posted a patch there
[18:56] <seb128> thanks
[18:56] <jtaylor> might be the wrong spot, just guessing :)
[18:57] <dobey> is there a debootstrap update for trusty, that supports xenial?
[18:57] <dobey> ie
[18:57] <dobey> E: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/xenial
[18:57] <dobey> i get that when trying to lxc-create a xenial container
[18:58] <jtaylor> dobey: apt-get upgrade should do it
[18:59] <dobey> jtaylor: was it just released today? i install updates every morning, as i have some daily PPAs
[18:59] <jtaylor> dobey: oh you need -proposed
[19:02] <dobey> oh, no bzr imports for xenial?
[19:03] <dobey> jtaylor: how much longer til it shows up it in -updates?
[19:06] <dobey> meh i'll just copy the xenial version to my ppa :)
[19:08] <jtaylor> you can also just create the symlink yourself
[19:43] <chiluk> thanks infinity
[19:45] <dobey> jtaylor: ugh. well lxc-create failed because "lxcguest" is not available but referred to by another package, now :(
[19:46] <dobey> guess i'll have to create a vivid image and then dist-upgrade it to xenial :-/
[19:46] <chiluk> mterry, infinity says the respin fixed the ppc64 vivid build.
[19:46] <mterry> chiluk, oh nice
[19:46] <chiluk> mterry how's the review going? any questions?
[19:47] <mterry> chiluk, didn't I mention uploading to trusty?
[19:47] <mterry> chiluk, I commented in bug too
[19:47] <mterry> chiluk, just waiting on sru approval to go through to proposed
[19:47] <chiluk> alrighty thanks!
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-ops
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[19:49] <k1l> lettuce45 [email protected] is the bierbierbier guy. iirc its martinphone
[19:51] <k1l> see ban 69587
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-arm
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[15:42] <Elguapo> hola buenas tardes aqui ayudan todo sobre linux
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[00:24] <PCLine__> Sure it was just like that!
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[20:35] <qwebirc94850> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 desktop on my mythtv machine - when I use mythbuntu control center it will only install 0.27 no matter how many times I tell it to use the 0.28 repos. Any way I can get this to work?
[20:35] <tgm4883_> qwebirc94850: you'll need to pastebin some output from when you try to install mythtv
[20:36] <qwebirc94850> I'm using the gui, does it leave a log somewhere?
[20:36] <tgm4883_> qwebirc94850: which gui?
[20:36] <qwebirc94850> mythbuntu-control-center
[20:36] <qwebirc94850> version 0.64.12
[20:36] <qwebirc94850> err, 0.64.1
[20:37] <tgm4883_> qwebirc94850: ok
[20:37] <tgm4883_> qwebirc94850: so open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[20:38] <qwebirc94850> am running that right now, will let you know when it's finished
[20:38] <tgm4883_> ok
[20:39] <qwebirc94850> just finished that - 0.27 is still installed
[20:40] <qwebirc94850> should I try removing it with synaptic and then use control center to reinstall again?
[20:40] <tgm4883> qwebirc94850:correct, all we did was update your package list
[20:40] <tgm4883> now
[20:40] <qwebirc94850> ok
[20:40] <tgm4883> qwebirc94850:do 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[20:40] <tgm4883> err, that will need sudo too
[20:41] <qwebirc94850> ahhh, there is a dependency problem with mythtv
[20:41] <qwebirc94850> so the dist-upgrade filed
[20:42] <tgm4883> qwebirc94850: can you pastebin those logs?
[20:42] <qwebirc94850> just fixed that (was a read-only symlink)
[20:42] <qwebirc94850> dist-upgrade just completed
[20:43] <tgm4883> qwebirc94850: ok, is i t installed now 0.28?
[20:43] <qwebirc94850> no, it says 0.27 still - am getting a pastebin of that last command for you
[20:43] <kiwi_70977> ok thanks
[20:44] <qwebirc94850> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13129540/
[20:44] <tgm4883> can you pastebin the output of 'ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
[20:45] <mikea> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13129570/
[20:45] <mikea> there you go
[20:46] <kiwi_70977> hmm
[20:47] <kiwi_70977> can you pastebin the mythbuntu-ubuntu-0_28-wily.list file
[20:47] <mikea> yup, let me get it
[20:47] <mikea> (if I can find it lol)
[20:48] <mikea> ah, it's an empty file
[20:48] <kiwi_70977> that's weird
[20:49] <mikea> actually, according to the pastebin all of the mythbuntu files in that directory are empty
[20:50] <kiwi_70977> heh, I guess they are
[20:50] <kiwi_70977> except for mythbuntu-ubuntu-0_28-vivid.list.distUpgrade
[20:50] <kiwi_70977> what is in that?
[20:50] <mikea> has a normal ppa entry for vivid
[20:51] <mikea> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13129628/
[20:51] <kiwi_70977> mikea:ok, I would try selecting 0.27 in MCC, saving it, then selecting 0.28 again
[20:51] <kiwi_70977> and see if those files get populated
[20:51] <mikea> I did notice when using this on vivid that MCC would not always update if you picked 0.28
[20:52] <mikea> trying now
[20:52] <mikea> changing to 0.27 did not update any of the files
[20:53] <qwebirc13824> hmm
[20:53] <qwebirc13824> mikea: ok, do this
[20:53] <mikea> changing back to 0.28 did this time
[20:53] <qwebirc13824> ah ok
[20:53] <qwebirc13824> mikea: which files got updated?
[20:53] <mikea> the 0_28 wily main one
[20:54] <mikea> mythbuntu-ubuntu-0_28-wily.list
[20:54] <mikea> now has valid entries
[20:54] <qwebirc13824> cool
[20:55] <qwebirc13824> mikea: ok, so lets to 'sudo apt-get update' again
[20:55] <mikea> k
[20:55] <mikea> done
[20:56] <mikea> although reading through the output, it did not hit the mythbuntu repo
[20:56] <qwebirc13824> mikea: pastebin the output?
[20:57] <mikea> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13129713/
[20:57] <mikea> also included cat of the repo file
[21:00] <shout-user> mikea can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache show mythtv-frontend'
[21:00] <mikea> you bet
[21:03] <mikea> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13129782/
[21:05] <qwebirc13824> awesome
[21:05] <qwebirc13824> mikea: so it's working. Now do a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[21:06] <mikea> hey, I'm seeing 0.28 stuff downloading now!
[21:06] <mikea> so I guess somehow MCC didn't update the repos properly after the distro upgrade?
[21:06] <tgm4883> Yep
[21:07] <tgm4883> well a distro upgrade disables third party repos
[21:07] <tgm4883> I'd have to look at the MCC code to see exactly what happened
[21:07] <mikea> right - I've done this process before when I updated to vivid - it worked mostly, but certainly didn't have this kind of problem
[21:13] <mikea> tgm4883 it's working now - thank you for the help!
[21:14] <qwebirc13824> yw
[21:17] <qwebirc13824> tgm4883!
[21:38] <qwebirc13824> tgm4883 test test
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-ar
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[15:41] <Elguapo> hola buenas tardes aqui ayudan tdo sobre lunix
[15:41] <Elguapo> linux
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2015-11-06-#launchpad
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[00:26] <george_e> Is there a problem with the amd64/i386 builders?
[00:26] <george_e> They seem to have become stuck.
[00:28] <george_e> Oh... things seem to be moving again.
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2015-11-06-#kubuntu
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[00:25] <ahoneybun> thanks Naizugai!
[01:29] <parveen> i can't install any software from my software center. every time i click on install button it shows starting but it shows no progress at anywhere. please help me on this
[01:33] <mparillo> Can you give me an example of what you are trying to install?
[01:56] <parveen> i tried to install ubuntu software center and vlc media player and i do it from command line through also. when i tried it from command line it shows me follwing error message
[01:56] <parveen> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:56] <parveen> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[01:57] <ahoneybun> do you have the updater open parveen?
[01:57] <ahoneybun> something else is holding apt
[01:58] <parveen> no
[02:09] <volt72> Hi
[02:09] <volt72> ;)
[03:16] <duckgo> hello anybody can help with macbook drivers?
[03:17] <duckgo> hello?
[03:39] <volt72> sure
[03:39] <volt72> what drivers specifically?
[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:10] <dredneck> trying 15.10. in 14.04 i had a search and launch layout under desktop settings. all that 15.10 has for layout is desktop and folder view. what am i missing?
[09:28] <soee_> dredneck: correct
[09:29] <soee_> in Plasma 5 some features were removed, some aren't ported yet
[09:34] <dredneck> ok, i didnt know if it was something dropped or something not installed
[09:39] <irctc357> Hi there! My system language was English US but it seems like Kubuntu decided that some programs like Kate and some others should be in German... I checked /etc/default/locale and the language settings are correct. My keyboard layout is Swiss but that's correct and it also was never a problem before. Does anyone know how I can fix this so that everything is English again?
[09:42] <Smurphy> irctc357: all gnome-based programs I am running are displayed in french, even though I have all configured for US English.
[09:42] <Smurphy> I do however live in France, and I have German and French dictionaries enabled.
[09:53] <irctc357> Smurphy: Thanks for your reply! Are the dictionaries you spoke about the same as the translations under "System Settings - Regional Settings - Translations"? Or are they something else?
[10:12] <Smurphy> irctc357: Yes. Same.
[10:40] <amovah> hi, How can i change my input keyboard source?
[10:43] <amovah> anyone can help me?
[10:47] <hateball> amovah: I am not sure I understand what you mean
[10:47] <hateball> amovah: Do you want to change the input language?
[10:48] <amovah> hateball: yes i want
[10:49] <amovah> hateball: in unity I can change the input source easily
[10:50] <amovah> but now I'm confiuse
[10:50] <amovah> confuse*
[10:50] <hateball> amovah: are you on 14.04 or 15.10 ?
[10:50] <amovah> 15.10
[10:50] <amovah> in KDE desktop
[10:51] <amovah> I have no problem in unity and gnome desktop
[10:51] <hateball> I dont remember offhand in 15.10, but if you open krunner (alt+space) and search for "keyboard" you should have an option for language settings
[10:52] <hateball> by default it will be set to your system language, but you should be able to add more layouts and switch between them
[10:52] <hateball> otherwise you can just switch in a terminal using "setxkbmap us" or whatever layout you want
[10:53] <amovah> let me try
[10:53] <amovah> hateball : thanks
[12:03] <caps> i've installed the proprietary nvidia drivers and i'm just getting a black screen on boot. however when i go to recovery mode, drop to root shell, login as my user and do startx from there it works
[12:03] <caps> when i do a normal boot i think i see the tty login thing for half a second but then everything goes black
[12:05] <hateball> caps: What version of Kubuntu are you using, and what GPU?
[12:05] <hateball> caps: And how did you install the drivers?
[12:06] <caps> 15.10 and gtx 970
[12:06] <caps> i installed from recovery mode
[12:06] <clivejo> caps: have you tried the "nomodeset" kernel boot option?
[12:07] <caps> i don't know what that is lol
[12:07] <caps> how can i try?
[12:07] <clivejo> you know how to access grub?
[12:07] <caps> yeah
[12:09] <clivejo> in there edit the kernel line option, the one that has "quiet splash" just add nomodeset to that to become "nomodeset quiet splash"
[12:10] <clivejo> if it works, you can add it permanantly *fingers crossed*
[12:10] <caps> i added nomodeset at the end of that line now
[12:11] <clivejo> try booting with that
[12:11] <caps> looks the same. the kubuntu logo thing shows and then everything goes black
[12:11] <clivejo> kubuntu logo shouldnt show
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:12] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[12:12] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo
[12:12] <caps> it shouldn't?
[12:13] <hateball> caps: So what driver did you install?
[12:14] <hateball> caps: Did you install from nVidia, or did you install from Ubuntu repository?
[12:14] <caps> at first i installed the beta driver. same issue but i just "whatever" and went to recovery to startx from there
[12:14] <caps> it had some bugs though so i switched to the previous one
[12:14] <caps> from nvidia
[12:14] <caps> i'm developing some opengl application and i think i'm running into some bugs with the api so i wanted to test the latest drivers
[12:15] <TJ-> caps: Hang on, is the screen backlight turning off, or does te backlight remain on but the screen is blank (black/purple colour)
[12:15] <hateball> caps: Remove that. Add this PPA https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa and install nvidia-graphics-drivers-355 from it
[12:15] <caps> screen turns off
[12:15] <TJ-> caps: at what stage during startup does it turn off?
[12:16] <caps> i'm not sure, after the logo shows
[12:16] <caps> how can i tell?
[12:16] <caps> logs from previous boot?
[12:16] <TJ-> caps: boot without "quiet splash" so you can see the kernel/init system messages
[12:16] <TJ-> caps: but... was it working previously with the nouveau driver?
[12:17] <caps> everything happens too fast lol
[12:17] <TJ-> caps: I'm wondering if it is simply the case that the monitor you have connected is NOT on the GPU's *primary* output
[12:17] <caps> i have two monitors connected
[12:17] <TJ-> caps: for multi-head GPU cards, 1 output is designated primary. the open-source driver will clone output to all of them but the nvidia driver turns off all but the primary
[12:18] <caps> yeah i only see output on one of my monitors
[12:18] <caps> the other one is a 4k tv connected through display port
[12:18] <caps> the main one is just a normal pc monitor connected with dvi
[12:20] <caps> anyway everything works if i go to recovery mode, enable read write, drop to root shell, login as user and do startx
[12:21] <TJ-> caps: I'd also recommend trying to boot to a text console. on the kernel command-line add "systemd.unit=multi-user.target"
[12:21] <TJ-> caps: then from there try "sudo systemctl start graphical.target"
[12:21] <TJ-> caps: that'll tell at what stage the problem occurs.
[12:23] <caps> is that a startup parameter? i'm not sure where to add it (brb google)
[12:23] <TJ-> caps: I'm wondering if the Xorg xserver driver is configuring to drive the 'missing' outputs when it starts, which would explain the monitor going off
[12:23] <TJ-> caps: Yes, "kernel command-line" - so add it by modifying the GRUB boot entry
[12:24] <caps> ah, i can just do that temporarily with the e and ctrl x thing?
[12:24] <TJ-> caps: reboot. Hold 'Shift' until the GRUB boot manager menu shows. Highlight the default (first) entry. Press 'E' to edit. Navigate to the line starting "linux ..." and add to it "systemd.unit=multi-user.target". Immediately press Ctrl+X or F10 to boot with that change
[12:27] <caps> i added it at the end (i'm assuming each parameter is separated by space?) and i just see the kubuntu logo endlessly
[12:29] <TJ-> caps: space - correct. try pressing Esc to toggle the splash screen off
[12:31] <caps> esc doesn't seem to do anything
[12:31] <caps> ctrl alt del triggers a reboot at least
[12:32] <Smurphy> How about switching down to the console ???
[12:34] <caps> hmm yeah that works
[12:34] <caps> and from there i can startx
[12:34] <Smurphy> Yes - or you can restart the session, or even have a look at the logs for what is going on ...
[12:35] <caps> can i do this from KSystemLog?
[12:35] <caps> i'm not really that good with linux
[12:35] <Smurphy> What is KSystemLog ?
[12:35] <Smurphy> Ah -= application to look at logfils ?
[12:36] <caps> yeah
[12:36] <Smurphy> Well - check the /var/log directory for most logs. that's what KSystemLog does.
[12:37] <Smurphy> Once the X session went berserk, go down to the console, the to that directory, and with a: ls -lrt you will see the logfiles, ordered by most recent changes last (means the last file is the one that received content most recently0.
[12:37] <Smurphy> But yes, you should be able to use KSystemLog
[12:37] <Smurphy> Amazing, I didn't even know ksystemlog existed... Testing it out now ;D
[12:38] <Smurphy> Lol. I knew there is a hickup. Configure to show max lines number
[12:40] <Smurphy> *lol* I can't reboot my system for checking logs... My /var/log, /tmp, /var/tmp are all located on ram-drives for speed reasons :} abd because ssd :D
[12:48] <TJ-> caps: sounds like a splash issue if booting with 'multi-user.target' isn't presenting the console. That's done by 'plymouth' which is triggered by the "splash" keyword on the kernel command-line. Might be worth trying again with "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" without "splash"
[12:49] <Smurphy> Ah - yes. I by default disable plymouth on all my systems.
[12:50] <TJ-> caps: ensure that "nomodeset" is NOT there too, so as not to inhibit the expected correct behaviour
[13:05] <nikolaj_basher> Hi, is there away to turn KDE off so it won't start automatially when the computer boots. It's because I will use it for server and I don't want to use Ram on it when I don't need it
[13:05] <thudson> good afternoon
[13:05] <ultraspark> Hello
[13:06] <ultraspark> nikolaj_basher - change the default run level
[13:07] <ultraspark> this way it won't start x when you start it
[13:07] <nikolaj_basher> which runlevel is it?
[13:08] <nikolaj_basher> the reason why I don't use debian instead is because i would like it to run vpn (KDE remote desktop) in the feauture
[13:14] <svend-ev> Good morning
[13:15] <TJ-> nikolaj_basher: which release version is it? 15.10 ?
[13:16] <rom1504> nobody had issues with vlc in 15.10 ?
[13:16] <TJ-> That's good then :)
[13:16] <rom1504> (using an nvidia card and drivers)
[13:30] <nikolaj_basher> TJ-,15.10
[13:31] <nikolaj_basher> 15.10
[13:38] <TJ-> nikolaj_basher: OK, then it is systemd. You can disable the graphical boot with "systemctl disable graphical.target"
[13:39] <nikolaj_basher> TJ-, and that won't effect if I use it for VPN remote desktop?
[13:40] <TJ-> nikolaj_basher: that simply stops the sddm/lightdm/whatever display manager service from being automatically started at boot. You can still start it manually
[13:43] <nikolaj_basher> nice thanks
[13:43] <nikolaj_basher> TJ-,
[14:51] <gombean> I need more volume!
[14:51] <Smurphy> volume ? what volume ?
[15:00] <gombean> my system volume is very low, compared to, say, Windows(!)
[15:01] <gombean> I have amarok volume up full now and system volume up full
[15:01] <Z4sk4> gombean, try on terminal alsamixer
[15:01] <Z4sk4> and see if all its up
[15:02] <gombean> master is 100
[15:02] <gombean> headphone is 'MM'
[15:02] <marco-parillo> I have not tried it, but what about this: https://userbase.kde.org/Sound_Problems#Low_maximum_volume_with_PulseAudio_on_KDE_or_pavucontrol_shows_more_than_100.25_of_volume.2C_but_KMix_goes_only_up_to_100.25
[15:05] <gombean> meh, no. still very low
[15:05] <gombean> i would say about 60% of max volume in windows :/
[15:37] <parveen> i have installed kubuntu 15.10 on my system. Why it is not showing hibernate option into leave. is it disabled or it is not present in it
[15:43] <BluesKaj> parveen, it's been removed from the "Leave" options
[15:48] <parveen> what should i have to do to hibernate my system
[16:42] <parveen> can anyone tell me what should i do get hibernate into my kubuntu 15.10. it it not present in it
[16:47] <Walex> parveen: that's a vague question, but make sure you have the 'pm-utils' packages installed and therefore the 'pm-hibernate' command
[17:06] <parveen> hibernate is not present in leave
[19:26] <wfreeman> I have somehow managed to completely break KDE; I have no panels and a blank black desktop, and can only run programs using the alt-f2 shortcut. Is there any way to reset KDE to default settings?
[19:29] <soee_> create new user
[19:29] <genii> wfreeman: rm ~/.kde
[19:29] <soee_> or delete .config and .kde
[19:31] <wfreeman> Thanks; I'll try that.
[19:39] <hanmac> i hope i am not the only one that does miss the kdegames meta package in the current packages ... because i it seems i will not see it back this year :(
[19:42] <jhunold> yes, my wife has suffered, too ;-)
[19:43] <hanmac> and the joke: the debian package does work, but because ubuntu want to make things different, they broke it ... and didnt fixed it in more than 10 months!!!
[20:39] <Naizugai> Does anyone know how to remove this blue line in Firefox? http://upit.staltsoft.com/images/1446842325.png
[21:59] <allon> Hi
[21:59] <bprompt> allpo
[21:59] <allon> Can somebody help me?
[21:59] <bprompt> allo rather
[21:59] <bprompt> !ask
[22:00] <allon> all right :)
[22:00] <allon> I installed kubuntu 14.04 a good year ago to develop on gcompris
[22:01] <allon> and I never used it as I continued to develop on my 12.10
[22:01] <allon> now I have to use it to be able to use vorbis-tools
[22:01] <allon> but when I want to update kubuntu its says
[22:01] <allon> I installed kubuntu 14
[22:02] <allon> http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/mount_2.20.1-5.1ubuntu20.6_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]
[22:02] <allon> google does not help me at all
[22:02] <Unit193> Try apt-get update first.
[22:02] <allon> seems I have to go to source.lst
[22:02] <allon> ok
[22:02] <genii> sudo apt-get update
[22:05] <allon> seems to work :) no error message anymore and even if I can not see the download progress par displayed the download speed is changing
[22:05] <THOR13> kl-ü-ck
[22:05] <allon> thanks :)
[22:14] <Unit193> allon: For the progress bar, use apt rather than apt-get.
[22:16] <allon> Unit193: I double clicked on the update icon in systrayn but now this is working. I can show a lots of messages "préparation de la configuration python 3" etc etc appearing on my screen.
[22:16] <Unit193> Ah yeah don't know about the GUI for this, never use it.
[22:22] <bprompt> I assume is probably Muon Package Manager
[22:27] <allon> the process running is called muon-updater
[22:29] <bprompt> right
[22:32] <allon> thanks a lot everything is updated and pc is rebooted
[23:10] <andres_> hello
[23:10] <bprompt> allo
[23:10] <andres_> i need some hacker for network support
[23:10] <andres_> anyone available
[23:11] <bprompt> !topic | andres_
[23:13] <andres_> k
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2015-11-06-#snappy
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[00:36] <liuxg> how to define the cap for services in snapcraft.yaml? I have not seen an example for this. I have seen something defined in a package.yaml at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-examples/view/head:/go-example-webserver/meta/package.yaml
[05:57] <liuxg> has anyone done cross compile for snapy app using Docker? thanks
[06:17] <woodrowshen> liuxg: using snapcraft ?
[06:18] <liuxg> woodrowshen, yes, I wan to build my app in the docker container for my RaspBerry PI device.
[06:18] <liuxg> woodrowshen, is that possible?
[06:22] <woodrowshen> liuxg: according to maillist, the snappy team seems they're still working cross build with snapcraft.
[06:23] <liuxg> woodrowshen, this is more like a native build. I use the arm container for the purpose.
[06:25] <woodrowshen> liuxg: yes, just use snapcraft if you have arm container. why not
[06:26] <liuxg> woodrowshen, the thing is that I got an error like "Pulling webserver
[06:26] <liuxg> env GOPATH=/home/liuxg/snappy/examples/go-webserver/parts/webserver/build go get -t -d github.com/liu-xiao-guo/golang-http
[06:26] <liuxg> fatal error: rt_sigaction failure"
[06:26] <woodrowshen> liuxg: longsleep did the PR, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/53, but it seems ubuntu-core branch didn't accept commits yet.
[06:28] <woodrowshen> liuxg: did you find where does the message come from ?
[06:28] <liuxg> woodrowshen, that looks easier without going through a container, right?
[06:30] <woodrowshen> liuxg: acutally i also use snapcraft to build a snap in the docker (although it's amd64 arch), but i think it's different between container and native platform.
[06:30] <liuxg> woodrowshen, the message came from the build inside the arm container http://paste.ubuntu.com/13122312/
[06:31] <liuxg> woodrowshen, sorry, I built it from a container inside the docker.
[06:32] <liuxg> woodrowshen, how did you set it up?
[06:32] <woodrowshen> liuxg: ok. so you have a native arm platform ?
[06:33] <liuxg> woodrowshen, I do not have it yet. I want to do it using one PI device in the near future. I want to get the ubuntu mate on it.
[06:33] <liuxg> woodrowshen, the output is actually from the arm container
[06:37] <liuxg> woodrowshen, it seems like "go get github.com/liu-xiao-guo/golang-http" command has problem.
[06:41] <woodrowshen> liuxg: i'm not sure, but maybe it has some clues, https://github.com/golang/go/issues/13024
[06:42] <woodrowshen> liuxg: or your go version is too old ?
[06:43] <woodrowshen> liuxg: i think you can test a simple go program first to check go is workable or not.
[06:43] <woodrowshen> liuxg: s/check/check if/
[06:44] <liuxg> woodrowshen, I just updated it to the latest.
[06:46] <liuxg> woodrowshen, you are right. "go" command simply gets the erro.
[06:47] <liuxg> woodrowshen, I used apt-get install golang-go to install the go. how did you get it installed.
[06:56] <woodrowshen> liuxg: what's version of go in your env ?
[06:56] <liuxg> woodrowshen, may I know how you installed the "go"? my "go version" command crashes
[06:57] <liuxg> woodrowshen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13122387/
[07:00] <woodrowshen> liuxg: i used gvm, https://github.com/moovweb/gvm
[07:01] <woodrowshen> liuxg: and also you can check my github, https://github.com/woodrow-shen/snapcraft-grafana
[07:01] <woodrowshen> liuxg: fyi
[07:02] <liuxg> woodrowshen, many thanks!
[07:04] <woodrowshen> liuxg: np
[07:47] <liuxg> woodrowshen, by the way, where did you get the armhf image for vivid. I get it from my colleague's source like docker pull alextucc/ubuntu:vivid-armhf-hybris.
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[07:51] <mvo> hey dholbach! good morning
[07:52] <dholbach> hey mvo
[07:56] <liuxg> woodrowshen, I just followed your steps to do "gvm install go1.4", during the installation, I got the error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13122582/. so, it is basically the same thing. I doubt whether it is because of my armhf for vivid image issue.
[08:02] <fgimenez> good morning
[09:14] <soffokl> Hey, we are using OVA images for Snappy Ubuntu, and latest stable release. But there is a problem with installing snap packages. “snappy internal-unpack” spend a lot of time with high IOwait, it takes minutes. We are using SSD disks only and disks are not loaded, but snappy still shows high IOwait. Can someone help to solve it?
[09:28] <zt> hi, I am new to snappy world, can someone knows a good tutorial on how to create a snappy app (more than the hello world), I dont know how to create an app that need to add libraries to it, thank you!
[09:28] <zt> if it helps I want to try to use the raspberry pi CLI to build a basic app
[09:48] <Chipaca> zt: maybe https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/build-apps/ ?
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Nachos Day! 😃
[10:05] <Chipaca> * totopos
[10:10] <Guest42341> nope
[10:55] <ogra_> soffokl, what hardware architecure ?
[11:08] <soffokl> ogra_, amd64
[11:13] <ogra_> hmm, that should definitely not have performance issues
[11:44] <soffokl> ogra_, I will try to collect more information about problem, thanks
[12:10] <longsleep> Is ppa:snappy-dev/image livecd-rootfs built from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/files/head:/ or what is the best tree i could sync with?
[12:53] <ogra_> longsleep, bzr branch lp:livecd-rootfs
[12:54] <ogra_> (for xenial ... for vivid just apt-get source from the PPA)
[12:56] <longsleep> ogra_: ok thanks - is there no branch for vidid? I would prefer to have source control integration
[12:56] <ogra_> nope
[12:57] <ogra_> the branch gets locked down on release day
[12:57] <longsleep> i see - so how are the fixed created then? Just in local source control?
[12:57] <ogra_> package
[12:57] <longsleep> without source control then?
[12:58] <ogra_> well, with debdiffs and package versioning :)
[12:58] <longsleep> ok got it - i guess i can just git apply the debdiffs - i am doing that for other packages already
[13:58] <clobrano> hello all, is there any news about the possibility to write udev rules? I mean, without re-mounting the filesystem RW :)
[14:23] <longsleep> mvo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/auto/config#L394 has uses space indentation, while the rest of the file uses tabs
[14:24] <ogra_> longsleep, yeah, the code is a mess since years
[14:25] <ogra_> wrt indendation
[14:25] <ogra_> not only there
[14:26] <longsleep> ogra_: well the vivid version of that file is horrible, but someone cleaned up in trunk - so i thought i report it as that one is the only issue in this file
[14:43] <mvo> longsleep: thanks, I will try to remember that
[14:47] <plars> joc_: sergiusens: so I was thinking about the difficulty of naming the 'null' plugin, what do you think about just calling it 'basic'
[14:47] <sergiusens> plars, what is wrong with null or nil?
[14:48] <plars> sergiusens: nil may be ok also I think, but null seems to be a type in yaml, so when it's translated it becomes Nonetype
[14:51] <plars> sergiusens: unless you wrap it in quotes... but then it would be different from every other plugin
[14:52] <sergiusens> plars, ah, then nil :-)
[14:52] <plars> sergiusens: ok, nil should be fine then... ^ joc_
[14:53] <joc_> ok
[14:53] <sergiusens> plars, I would go against basic, I'm happier with it being the anti-plugin :-)
[14:53] <plars> sergiusens: heh, ok. I was thinking basic because it's 'no frills/nothing added' i.e. you just get the base plugin class
[14:54] <sergiusens> plars, just add docstrings explaining the purpose of the plugin. """This plugin does nothing.\n\n [More about the plugin which is probably more of nothing or its purpose]"""
[14:54] <plars> right
[14:54] <plars> joc_: are you going to propose that? ^
[14:55] <joc_> plars: can do, will just rename the stuff in my branch...
[15:10] <joc_> plars: sergiusens: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/85
[15:19] <joc_> plars: dammit, defeated by plainbox!
[15:36] <joc_> elopio: hey, could you help work out what tests i need to add to snapcraft to accompany a new plugin?
[15:38] <sergiusens> joc_, fyi, trunk broke with the last commit so many tests are failing, wait for tedg to get the fix up
[15:39] <joc_> k
[15:41] <elopio> joc_: yes, I was looking at it ...
[15:41] <elopio> the example is nice. I think it would be good to have an integration test that checks that when you do snapcraft pull, the parts/part-name dir is empty.
[15:42] <elopio> joc_: the integration-tests use plainbox. So for that you would have to add the really simple snapcraft.yaml to integration-tests/data/nil
[15:43] <elopio> and write a check in bash in integration-tests/units/jobx.pxu
[15:44] <elopio> joc_: and in addition to that, it would be nice to have a unit test that instantiates the plugin. Those are in snapcraft/tests/
[15:44] <joc_> elopio: makes sense, i was just adding a job for nil-plugin-pkgfiler testing if nmcli was in the snap/usr/bin/
[15:44] <elopio> let me know if you need a hand.
[15:45] <joc_> elopio: thanks, will try and get those ready soon
[15:45] <elopio> joc_: We need that, but we still don't have a suite to check things in the examples. It only checks that the build succeeds.
[16:45] <elopio> Chipaca: I don't understand this endpoint: /1.0/icons/[icon]
[16:45] <elopio> what's an example of [icon] in there?
[16:54] <Chipaca> elopio: generic-amd64_1.4.png
[16:54] <Chipaca> elopio: but you're not supposed to guess these
[16:54] <Chipaca> elopio: they're given in /1.0/packages output
[16:54] <elopio> ahh, it's the file name. Makes sense.
[16:54] <Chipaca> it's the filename in /var/lib/meta/icons
[16:55] <Chipaca> which is preferred over the icon from the snap itself
[17:06] <jerryG> Chipaca: where are mir logs kept? Any documentation on mir w/ snappy?
[17:07] <Chipaca> jerryG: sudo snappy service logs
[17:12] <Chipaca> ogra_: it seems we've got a leftover eth0 in interfaces.d. I know we mount over it, but it'd be tidier if we removed it entirely. I don't know where it comes from though. Do you?
[17:12] <ogra_> Chipaca, not really, but i'm just playing with debug prints in livecd-rootfs, i can add a check to my next image build
[17:15] <Chipaca> ogra_: taw
[17:16] <ogra_> i can tell you in ~30min
[17:18] <longsleep> ogra_: How long does a livecd-rootfs build run for you? I am wondering what i could do to speed it up ..
[17:18] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/xenial/ubuntu-core-system-image
[17:18] <ogra_> click on the "Successfully built" link for the arch you want to check
[17:18] <ogra_> it has the time
[17:19] <longsleep> 8 minutes
[17:19] <longsleep> so launchpad builds faster than my workstation
[17:19] <ogra_> (note though that i'm currently experimenting there, the time might be longer than usual due to some debug stuff i added)
[17:19] <longsleep> ah am64 - lets checkar m
[17:19] <longsleep> ah 21 minutes
[17:20] <longsleep> thats more like the time i have here
[17:20] <longsleep> (arm)
[17:20] <longsleep> i wonder if it would build faster on native arm - or is that building on arm hardware on launchpad?
[17:20] <ogra_> it builds on native arm :)
[17:21] <longsleep> ah cool
[17:21] <ogra_> what definitely speeds up if you do local builds is a package proxy
[17:21] <longsleep> my qemu thing builds in 15 to 20 minutes
[17:22] <ogra_> beyond that 90% of the build is disk IO depending
[17:22] <ogra_> neither CPU nor RAM are used much
[17:22] <longsleep> yeah i have to set this up
[17:22] <ogra_> so a package proxy and an arm board with mSATA socket would help you :)
[17:22] <longsleep> to me it seems it spends most time in configuring and unpacking though
[17:22] <ogra_> right
[17:22] <ogra_> disk ...
[17:23] <ogra_> well
[17:23] <ogra_> if you do it in a qemu chroot there is another thing you can try ... create the chroot in a tmpfs ;)
[17:23] <ogra_> that will definitely speed up a lot
[17:23] <longsleep> ah yeah thats a nice idea
[17:24] <longsleep> i will try that next week for sure
[17:31] <Chipaca> longsleep: the ubuntu schroot thing walks you through that, i think
[17:37] <jerryG> Chipaca: new set of errors: pastebin.com/Z70S0xiS
[17:38] <Chipaca> jerryG: you're building mir with the wrong abi for the system. you need to either include these libs also, or build against the ones on the system
[17:39] <jerryG> k thx ill try that
[17:49] <longsleep> Chipaca: Ubuntu schroot, i have read that somewhere - what does it walk me through?
[17:50] <Chipaca> longsleep: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[17:50] <Chipaca> longsleep: that's oriented around rebuilding packages, but the setup is the same for other uses
[17:56] <longsleep> Chipaca: cool thanks
[17:58] <longsleep> ogra_: i want to try getting rid of opencryptoki, though i seem to be unable to find where it is actually seeded from - can you give me a hint?
[17:58] <ogra_> depends on the release ... for vivid it should be in live-build/auto/config ... for xenial it is in the seeds
[17:59] <longsleep> ogra_: mhm maybe i am blind - let me check auto/config again
[17:59] <ogra_> (the latter means you cant hack it out ... you would have to provide a chroot hook that apt-get pzurges it)
[18:00] <ogra_> hmm, or auto/build
[18:00] <longsleep> ogra_: yeah i am doing that hack for python already
[18:02] <longsleep> ogra_: mhm its neither in my auto/build nor in auto/config and i am based on (2.301~ppa43) vivid
[18:02] <longsleep> ogra_: and built images have it inside, so it must come from somewhere
[18:02] <longsleep> strange
[18:03] <jerryG> Chipaca: is CXXABI_1.3.9 part of gcc ?
[18:04] <Chipaca> jerryG: I *think* it's the c++ standard library abi
[18:05] <ogra_> longsleep, tpm-tools is in the seeds ... opencryptoki is a dependency
[18:05] <longsleep> aha! thanks
[18:05] <ogra_> not sure how we solved that for vivid
[18:05] <ogra_> but i think its hacked into livecd-rootfs there
[18:06] <longsleep> well, it actually explains why you had to add it - if the tpm tools want it then its clear
[18:07] <longsleep> ogra_: vivid has add_package install tpm-tools in auto/config
[18:07] <ogra_> yeah
[18:07] <ogra_> what i thoguht
[18:12] <ogra_> ricmm, your rootfs is done, now the system-image importer just needs to pick it up
[18:13] <ricmm> mine
[18:13] <ricmm> mineee
[18:34] <ricmm> ogra_: working fine
[18:34] <ricmm> thanks for the help
[18:34] <ogra_> awesomeness
[18:34] <ogra_> ricmm, let me know if you need anything else, i'm still around for a bit
[18:35] <ricmm> dont think so, have a good weekend
[18:35] <ricmm> sorry for the last minute req
[18:35] <ogra_> np
[18:35] <ogra_> not last minute ... still working ;)
[18:36] <sergiusens> joc_, can you update with master for another travis test run to trigger?
[19:24] <george_e> I'm attempting to build a snap package but receiving an error "'stop-timeout' is not an integer".
[19:24] <george_e> http://askubuntu.com/questions/694844/stop-timeout-is-not-an-integer-when-generating-snap-package-why
[19:24] <george_e> Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[22:00] <ogra_> jdstrand, mdeslaur, i'm trying to get rid of initramfs-tools from the snappy rootfs tarball ... sadly apparmor keeps it in, do you see a way to split out an apparmor-initramfs package that would make it possible to remove all the initrd stuff we dont want on a snappy rootfs ?
[22:07] <mdeslaur> jdstrand, ogra_: I don't know why we even have that dependency at all
[22:08] <ogra_> heh
[22:12] <mdeslaur> jdstrand, ogra_: pretty sure it's vestigial from a long time ago, and isn't necessary anymore
[22:38] <jjohansen> jdstrand: ogra_: I can confirm we aren't putting policy in the initramfs atm, and it is not currently required
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[04:45] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:18] <Cryterion> Mornings
[06:29] <magespawn> good morning
[06:38] <pieter2627> hi Cryterion magespawn
[07:00] <theblazehen> Hi guys
[07:00] <theblazehen> My ip changed, and now I'm on a blacklist :/
[07:00] <theblazehen> Really glad that ssh -D is a thing
[07:36] <Squirm> Hello
[07:39] * Squirm prods Trixar_za
[07:39] <Squirm> How is everyone
[07:39] <Squirm> ?
[07:40] <theblazehen> Sup Squirm, good and you?
[07:40] <Squirm> Doing well
[07:40] <Squirm> Feels like I haven't been here for a while
[07:41] <theblazehen> Neither have I
[07:42] <magespawn> hey Squirm theblazehen
[07:42] <Squirm> magespawn
[07:42] <theblazehen> sup magespawn
[07:43] <magespawn> yeah the blacklisting of an ip is a pain
[07:44] <magespawn> trying to upgrade a ubuntu server from 14.04, nothing seems to work yet thoug
[07:44] <magespawn> h
[07:46] <theblazehen> magespawn: thats a LTS version right?
[07:46] <Squirm> It is
[07:46] <magespawn> yes
[07:47] <magespawn> amazon server
[07:47] <magespawn> i forget is 15.04 also lts?
[07:47] <theblazehen> You have changed from lts to normal right?
[07:47] <theblazehen> I think only every 2 years
[07:48] <theblazehen> 12.04, 14.04, 16.04 etc
[07:49] <pieter2627> yeah only every two years^^
[07:49] <pieter2627> btw, hi Squirm
[07:50] <andrewlsd> Maaz: seen Kilos
[07:50] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Kilos was last seen 9 hours, 23 minutes and 57 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-11-05 14:26:06 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-11-05 14:26:28 PST
[07:50] <andrewlsd> Hi all
[07:50] <Squirm> Hey pieter2627
[07:50] <Squirm> hey andrewlsd
[07:50] <theblazehen> magespawn you changed it to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades right?
[07:50] <theblazehen> hi andrewlsd
[07:50] <andrewlsd> hi Squirm theblazehen
[07:50] <pieter2627> hi andrewlsd, did you got right with a unity8
[07:50] <andrewlsd> Minetest query, I can't remember who has the minetest server here. Any volunteers?
[07:51] <theblazehen> magespawn: I changed that and then just did do-release-upgrade
[07:51] <andrewlsd> pieter2627: nope
[07:51] <andrewlsd> pieter2627: unity8 seems like too much of a hassle just to test. That's a pity though, coz I really wanted to try it out.
[07:52] <theblazehen> I just did ^D on the ssh connection I'm using for my proxy...
[07:52] <theblazehen> Luckily it didn't close
[07:55] <andrewlsd> my favourite use of ssh is "ssh -D 3129 user@some-server"
[07:56] <andrewlsd> found #minetest-za
[07:56] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: Yeah, doing that now. Also ssh -R 0.0.0.0:1234:127.0.0.1:1234 is nice. Useful when I want to run a server for something from home
[08:02] <andrewlsd> yip, I used that yesterday to SSH to a device behind a jumpbox, and then push the DSL router's port 80 up to a server on the 'net that the box could reach
[08:02] <andrewlsd> ie: me --> jumpbox --> targetbox --> external server
[08:03] <andrewlsd> targetbox pushed DSL modem port 80 --> externalserver
[08:08] <theblazehen> nice
[08:09] <andrewlsd> I mainly use the ssh -D option, with firefox set to socks proxy with remote DNS
[08:09] <andrewlsd> ... one way of watching Hulu if the remote server is in the US.
[08:10] <anton> morning all any mikrotik boffins?
[08:11] <theblazehen> Yeah. On a previous ISP we had they throttled everything severely.. Except ssh :) So ssh -D 0.0.0.0:8080, and set everything to use that :)
[08:11] <theblazehen> magespawn you know anything about it? ^
[08:38] <pieter2627> andrewlsd: have you tried the package `unity8-desktop-session-mir` - found it this morning on one UOS session?
[08:38] * pieter2627 might try it tomorrow
[08:41] <Cryterion> andrewlsd - minetest query?
[08:42] <andrewlsd> pieter2627: will check.
[08:43] <andrewlsd> Cryterion: found #minetest-za, thanks. will ask there if necessary.
[08:43] <Cryterion> Ok kwl, me and thatgraemeguy run the Sa server
[08:44] <pieter2627> there seems to have been a problem with it removing `modemManager` but on my 15.10 it does not mention that it will do so...
[08:53] <andrewlsd> prepping a new 15.10 install to test...
[08:57] <magespawn> theblazehen: sorry about what/ got a bit distracted
[08:57] <theblazehen> magespawn: anton was asking if anyone had microtik experience
[08:57] <magespawn> i have some yes
[08:58] <anton> Thanks don't worry came right mrtg to the rescua
[08:58] <magespawn> np
[08:59] <magespawn> theblazehen: i will change that on the server setup thanks
[09:37] <magespawn> theblazehen: that has sorted it thanks
[09:40] <theblazehen> magespawn: Glad to help
[09:55] <theblazehen> I hate xorg
[09:56] <pieter2627> theblazehen: long life mir or wayland :P
[09:56] <theblazehen> pieter2627: Wayland (well actually weston) doesn't support multiple GPUs yet
[09:57] <theblazehen> Nor does the gnome and kde display servers or whatever they are in wayland
[09:57] <pieter2627> oh
[09:57] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: 5 monitors isn't exactly a normal use-case.
[09:57] <theblazehen> Yeah
[09:57] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: True..
[09:58] <theblazehen> I'm gonna get some more next year :)
[09:58] <pieter2627> hey it's an odd case
[09:58] <andrewlsd> 3 x 3 monitor grid.
[09:58] * pieter2627 intended the pun
[09:58] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: build a video wall.
[09:58] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: Yeah. I can run 11 off my current setup
[09:58] <theblazehen> That's the plan :) But 4x4 instead
[09:59] <theblazehen> Probably gonna go with 1366x768 monitors. Cheap, and I'll be able to see stuff well from a distance
[09:59] <andrewlsd> my neighbour has 4 set up in a "cross" configuration for his flight-sim. ie, left-middle , centre-middle, right-middle and then centre-top and centre-bottom above and
[10:00] <andrewlsd> (for when he's not using is Occulus)
[10:01] <theblazehen> I count 5?
[10:01] <theblazehen> 6*
[10:08] <theblazehen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRlTISvjww
[10:08] <theblazehen> ^
[10:08] <theblazehen> Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody)
[10:14] <andrewlsd> ^ absolutely brilliant
[10:15] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: have you seen the linux sucks talks?
[10:17] <andrewlsd> nope
[10:17] <theblazehen> They're really great
[10:20] <andrewlsd> the Maroon 5 parody is epic too
[10:21] <theblazehen> Got a link?
[10:22] <magespawn> theblazehen: pretty cool
[10:26] <andrewlsd> the Maroon 5 parody: https://youtu.be/M9bq_alk-sw
[10:26] <theblazehen> ty
[10:31] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: yeah, that's cool
[10:46] <theblazehen> What is the use of 16 GiB of RAM when you are only using 2.62 GiB with a torrent client, file manager, vlc, libreoffice, 13 firefox tabs..
[10:54] <theblazehen> https://github.com/kristopolous/bash-org-tools/tree/master/fortune fortune files for bash.org if anyone wants
[11:39] <MaNI> an intelligent OS would still use the other 14 gb to cache disk files and other things which can improve performance
[11:40] <MaNI> but that said if all you do is browse, edit word documents and pirate/watch movies than 16gb is probably overkill
[11:43] <theblazehen> MaNI: Yeah, it does
[11:43] <theblazehen> 8.1 GB in cache. 1GB as VRAM
[11:44] <theblazehen> and 4.4GB free
[11:57] <theblazehen> MaNI: And i do use it for VMs etc. Back in 2013 I was virtualizing EVERYTHING - 24GB ram, ran freenas, puppet master, torrent vm, media server vm, win 8 vm, win xp vm, and a VM for my desktop - Connected to my vm desktop with x2go as that was faster then using my netbook directly
[11:57] <theblazehen> and another VM for some AI / machine learning experiments
[11:59] <theblazehen> Actually no, then I only had 16 GB RAM
[12:00] <theblazehen> Once I get a gpu I'll set up another PC with 12 GB that I'm not using (1333 MHz, main pc runs 1600 MHz) so that I can use virtualgl with it for gaming
[12:04] <MaNI> why not use the same machine - with an extra gpu and kvm vga passthrough?
[12:07] <theblazehen> Because then I'd need to connect another PCIe riser for my 1 gpu so that I can add my new gpu in the 16x speed slot. And it took lots of time getting the setup to work how it is now. And right now I;m stuck running nouveau as the "broken" GPU I got only runs with nouveau, and the other gpu of mine isn't supported by nvidia driver any more. And afaik you need to connect a display directly to the VMs gpu?
[12:07] <theblazehen> I'd rather use the nvidia driver on the other pc
[12:07] <theblazehen> Also, all my games run in wine
[12:08] <theblazehen> Running my onboard HD4600 + GTX550Ti ("broken") + GT210 at the moment
[12:09] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/a/uVHYy my old setup. I just removed the laptop as a display
[12:20] <magespawn> how to issue commands to a remote instance of byobu when connected to it from ssh in a local byobu?
[12:21] <theblazehen> magespawn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/102640/how-do-i-send-a-literal-f6-etc-in-byobu this help?
[13:12] <magespawn> let me check
[13:14] <magespawn> yes thanks, more learning, i have use the unbound key stroks
[13:35] <magespawn> chat late
[13:35] <magespawn> later
[13:43] <Kilos> afternoon all
[13:44] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos
[13:49] <anton> afternoon & ciao time to tackle the traffic back home
[13:56] <pieter2627> hey Kilos
[13:56] * pieter2627 wbbl
[14:03] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: make sure whatever machine you want to use supports that PCI passthrough.
[14:04] <andrewlsd> I was hoping to do that with mine, and my hardware does not do MMU, or something.
[14:04] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: I wont be using a VM, it's basically X11 forwarding that I will be doing
[14:05] <theblazehen> VirtualGL runs a Xorg server and it intercepts OpenGL calls and passes it through to the X server, then sends the image to your computer
[14:05] <theblazehen> But my board does support VT-d
[14:05] <andrewlsd> oh.
[14:06] <andrewlsd> yeah mine does VT, but not intel_iommu
[14:06] <theblazehen> Although I could also run windows server, with HyperV and RemoteFX then rdp into the vm
[14:06] <theblazehen> andrewlsd: So VT-x then?
[14:06] <theblazehen> Mine has the iommu. Used it in the past
[14:10] <theblazehen> I basically run the game with X11 forwarding, but the graphics are rendered on the pc running the game
[14:12] <theblazehen> Although I could put the gpu in my main pc, set it up so I can use PRIME. I'll just need more space to put another gpu, as I have one in my x16 slot at the moment, so I'll need another x1 to x16 riser and space to put it
[14:24] <andrewlsd> rebooting to test iommu stuff :-)
[14:53] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: my CPU is i7-4710MQ, which according to ark.intel.com does not do VT-d
[14:53] <andrewlsd> http://ark.intel.com/products/78931/Intel-Core-i7-4710MQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz?q=i7-4710MQ
[14:53] <andrewlsd> :-(
[14:54] <andrewlsd> Hi Kilos, long time no see
[14:54] <Kilos> wasnt i here yesterday andrewlsd ?
[14:54] <Kilos> hehe
[14:54] <andrewlsd> ;-)
[14:54] <Kilos> hows things by you
[14:54] <andrewlsd> just not this morning.
[14:54] <Kilos> aha
[14:55] <andrewlsd> good ty, U?
[14:55] <Kilos> im sukkeling with online banking and stuffs
[14:55] <Kilos> im good ty
[14:55] <andrewlsd> just came back from SARS,
[14:56] <Kilos> you owe the or they owe you?
[14:56] <andrewlsd> They owe me, had to go hand in supporting documentation.
[14:56] <Kilos> nice
[14:57] <andrewlsd> (had to do it last year too. Seems to be SOP for home office claims)
[14:57] <Kilos> as long as you get back its worth it
[14:58] <Kilos> to go stand there and have to pay in would be worse
[15:01] <Cryterion> Kilos, what bank do you use?
[15:02] <Kilos> ive opened an absa account
[15:02] <Cryterion> andrewlsd: SARS - south african robbing service, is it's true name btw
[15:03] <Kilos> and when we want to put money in using paypal only fnb has that option
[15:03] <Cryterion> oh, I fight with std all the time, they always f-up
[15:03] <andrewlsd> FNB seems to be best so far, but I haven't used Capitec yet
[15:03] <Cryterion> I've Never had a problem with Nedbank
[15:03] <Kilos> when you do a bank to bank transfer from aus to here they rip you off with costs
[15:04] <andrewlsd> Cryterion: at least the service is good :-) they rob you quickly, efficiently and with a smile
[15:04] <Cryterion> yeah, true
[15:04] <Kilos> cost near 1k to transfer 5k
[15:04] <Kilos> what a ripoff
[15:04] <Cryterion> ouch
[15:04] <Kilos> and its all done on pcs
[15:05] <Cryterion> use bitcoins
[15:05] <andrewlsd> Cryterion: nedbank lost my wife's money a few years ago. Took them 9 months to return it to us. So I won't use them. Plus, they're probably the most un-opensource-friendly. With FNB at the opposite end of that spectrum.
[15:05] <Kilos> one would swear they have to fly here with the cash
[15:06] <Kilos> fnb has also only recently started the paypal link
[15:06] <Kilos> they all thieves
[15:06] <andrewlsd> Kilos: I think so too.
[15:06] <Cryterion> yeah, they are
[15:07] <Kilos> how can it cost 1k to send 5k
[15:07] <Kilos> and that was to std bank here
[15:07] <Cryterion> std bank, it costs me R4-5 everytime I swipe the card now, even their staff can't action things correctly at a branch
[15:08] <Kilos> and they charge to put money in and to draw the same money
[15:08] <Kilos> swines
[15:08] <Cryterion> import tax probably, sars
[15:09] <Kilos> paypal seems the only viable solution
[15:09] <andrewlsd> cheerio all. It's weekend at last. :-)
[15:09] <Kilos> cheers andrewlsd
[15:09] <Kilos> have a good one
[15:09] <Cryterion> paypal does work, I do know that, not sure on the costs on receiving money though
[15:10] <Cryterion> cheers andrewlsd
[15:14] <Cryterion> Anyone know a little bit on sorting out SSL certificates?
[15:49] <Kilos> Cryterion the pro knows
[15:50] <Kilos> lemme try do it here and see how well i foorgot
[15:50] <Kilos> you mean here with irc hey?
[15:53] <Kilos> Cryterion i think you need to change the port number
[15:53] <Kilos> didnt work here either
[15:53] <Kilos> we try at 8.30 tonight if pro available
[17:56] <magespawn> good evening
[18:04] <theblazehen> Cryterion: You heard about the mozilla ssl certs?
[18:04] <theblazehen> Lets encrypt
[18:18] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:27] <theblazehen> Somehow application won't launch because they can't create a window in xorg.. Tels me to see if $DISPLAY is set.. Sure is. Weird. Reboot fixed it
[18:32] <inetpro> good mornings
[18:32] <Kilos> hi there inetpro
[18:32] <theblazehen> Hi inetpro, Kilos
[18:32] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[18:33] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry, kids been keeping me busy in the evening this week
[18:33] <Kilos> np
[18:33] <inetpro> hi theblazehen, nice to see you in action again
[18:34] <theblazehen> Glad to be back :) Plan to stick around this time
[18:37] <Kilos> good lad
[18:47] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[18:47] <Kilos> ty sir
[18:49] <Kilos> all good inetpro ?
[18:50] <Kilos> apart from tired of course
[18:50] <theblazehen> Maaz tell MaNI I see you're on afrihost. We moved away fro them to crsytalweb, have you tried them out? Bit faster than afrihost for us
[18:50] <Maaz> theblazehen: Sure, I'll tell MaNI on freenode
[18:51] <Kilos> oh ty for the topic change inetpro
[18:51] <MaNI> I use the works ADSL not my call, but afrihost working okay :p
[18:51] <Maaz> MaNI: By the way, theblazehen on freenode told me "tell MaNI I see you're on afrihost. We moved away fro them to crsytalweb, have you tried them out? Bit faster than afrihost for us" 1 minute and 15 seconds ago
[18:51] <Kilos> haha
[18:51] <theblazehen> Ah cool
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos: say thanks to piet[tab]
[18:53] <Kilos> aha
[18:53] <inetpro> he be the driving force
[18:55] <magespawn> hey inetpro
[18:57] <inetpro> hi magespawn
[18:57] <inetpro> something seems very wrong with neology's mirror
[18:57] <magespawn> have you been using your amazon instance?
[18:57] <inetpro> have sent a mail to the maintainer, hopefully he will sort it out asap
[18:59] <inetpro> magespawn: our QA bot in #ubuntu-africa has been running on AWS all this time
[18:59] * inetpro needs to check the date when starting the host
[18:59] <magespawn> cool beans, i have just been running practice exercises on my one
[19:00] <inetpro> will probably expire one of these days already
[19:00] <magespawn> i think mine has about 4 months left of the free service
[19:23] <magespawn> okay what happened there?
[19:24] <Kilos> haha
[19:24] <Kilos> ya inetpro neology sick since yesterday
[19:25] <theblazehen> I wish people would read man pages...
[19:25] <Kilos> i hate man pages
[19:25] <theblazehen> Spent hours helping this guy in #archlinux
[19:26] <magespawn> theblazehen: your good deed for the day
[19:26] <theblazehen> Yeah :)
[19:26] <theblazehen> Hate xorg though..
[19:26] <theblazehen> And this guy insists on using linux-libre -won't even test with normal linux
[19:26] <theblazehen> And he lives in a tty.. In emacs
[19:26] <magespawn> i did not even know that they existed when i first started with ubuntu
[19:27] <magespawn> and you had to help him?
[19:27] <theblazehen> Yeah, in my first few years I just read the gnome docs that came with 8.04
[19:27] <theblazehen> Nah, I was just procrastinating on studying
[19:28] <magespawn> mmm, and now/
[19:28] <magespawn> ?
[19:28] <theblazehen> Now, I juts give up..
[19:28] <magespawn> right
[19:28] <theblazehen> He's asking how to list packages that match a name.. 1 min in a man page, lol
[19:33] <inetpro> oops magespawn, that was me choosing the wrong channel when trying to help Kilos in #ubuntu-africa
[19:33] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:33] <magespawn> no worries
[19:36] <Kilos> what a schlep
[19:50] <Cryterion> maaz: is coffee on
[19:50] <Maaz> Cryterion: Excuse me?
[19:51] <Cryterion> maaz: stock the fridge with beer then
[19:51] <Maaz> Cryterion: Excuse me?
[19:51] <Cryterion> maaz: make some coffee
[19:51] <Maaz> Cryterion: Huh?
[19:53] <Cryterion> maaz: coffee
[19:53] <Maaz> Cryterion: coffee is liquid code
[19:53] <Cryterion> maaz: so is java
[19:53] <Maaz> Cryterion: One learns a new thing every day
[19:53] <Cryterion> maaz: you don't know how to learn
[19:53] <Maaz> Cryterion: Huh?
[19:54] <Cryterion> maaz: huh?
[19:54] <Maaz> Cryterion: *blink*
[19:54] <theblazehen> Cryterion: https://github.com/spion/triplie-ng if you're looking for conversation :)
[19:54] <gremble> Good evening
[19:54] <Cryterion> evening guys
[19:54] <theblazehen> hi gremble
[19:55] <gremble> Hey theblazehen
[19:55] <gremble> Hey Cryterion
[19:55] <Kilos> hi gremble
[19:55] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[19:56] <theblazehen> "Doing this all day leaves you in a state of mild aphasia as you look at people's faces while they're speaking and you don't know they've finished because there's no semicolon"
[19:56] <Cryterion> was just playing with maaz, can never seem to get him to make coffee, he always does that to me lol
[19:56] <gremble> You're coding in C?
[19:56] <theblazehen> gremble: php ;)
[19:57] <theblazehen> jk. Got it from http://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks
[19:57] * gremble shivers
[19:57] <gremble> Haha :P
[19:57] <Cryterion> c also has the ;
[19:57] <theblazehen> Yeah
[19:57] <theblazehen> Python too, if you *really* want to
[19:57] <gremble> I'm trying to write a simple commandline parser in haskell. I think I am to dumb for programming languages xD
[19:58] <theblazehen> Try this in the python REPL: "from __future__ import braces"
[19:58] <theblazehen> :)
[19:58] <Cryterion> last link reminds me of a Internet Explorer error, "Error, the command completed successfully!"
[19:59] <theblazehen> Yeah, I've seen that (not irl though)
[20:00] <Cryterion> not url either, on screen, win95
[20:00] <theblazehen> Ouch :(
[20:00] <theblazehen> 98SE 4 life
[20:01] <theblazehen> Longhorn was actually quite nice. What vista should have been
[20:01] <theblazehen> Only windows version that I really liked
[20:03] <Cryterion> 95C was the most stable, but 98SE 4 was close
[20:03] <gremble> I thought longhorn wasn't released? It was the codename for 7 or something?
[20:03] <theblazehen> gremble: codename for vista, yeah
[20:03] <gremble> Yes, vista wasn't nice :P
[20:03] <theblazehen> Ran the beta before vista was released for a year or two
[20:03] <gremble> Oh alright
[20:04] <theblazehen> gremble: Due to the fact that they ran late, and had to rush the final product. Longhorn still had the good features before they were ripped out of vista
[20:04] <Cryterion> I stayed away from vista, jumped most systems from 95C to 98SE then XP
[20:04] <gremble> The only reason I used windows from time to time these days is because I have to do editing using word. LibreOffice is not doing very well on its trackchanges and review features :<
[20:05] <theblazehen> Yeah, got a window vm just for that
[20:05] <gremble> Why did they have to rip features out to make a deadline?
[20:05] <theblazehen> http://www.zdnet.com/pictures/windows-longhorn-still-the-most-exciting-windows-ui-to-date/ :)
[20:05] <theblazehen> Because they weren't ready for normal users yet, etc
[20:05] <gremble> Oh alright
[20:05] <Cryterion> Libre works fine for me, some stuff no longer there which was only usefull for people at that time
[20:06] <gremble> I'm quite keen on my current UI. Openbox with numix and plank
[20:06] <theblazehen> gremble: Numix is nice. Have you tried the arc themes?
[20:06] <theblazehen> Did you see my setup I posted?
[20:07] <gremble> You posted your setup?
[20:07] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/a/uVHYy old setup http://i.imgur.com/BJ1m5Xw.jpg current
[20:07] <theblazehen> Yeah
[20:07] <gremble> I haven't tried the arc themes. I'm not entirely one for ricing. This just came with antegros :P
[20:08] <theblazehen> Antergos is nice :) Had that on desktop, and running it on laptop nice
[20:08] <theblazehen> Can't really do it on desktop, because gnome doesn't like running with RandR providers and stuff...
[20:09] <gremble> Your board is going to collect so much dust :<
[20:09] <gremble> Well, the old setup
[20:09] <theblazehen> It does..
[20:09] <theblazehen> new setup is the same, just not using laptop as a display now
[20:11] <gremble> I have two screens atm, my laptop (the computer that I am using since my desktop's HDD is still fried) and a 23" (iirc)
[20:11] <theblazehen> Cool. maybe PXE boot the desktop, with an image on the laptop?
[20:12] <theblazehen> just load pxelinux and a kernel on a usb, then use root as a nfs / nbd mount
[20:12] <gremble> No real point to doing that, since everything that the desktop was useful for was on that HDD :P
[20:12] <theblazehen> yeah.. :/
[20:13] <gremble> So when I get a new HDD, I'll make the desktop useful again
[20:13] <theblazehen> Yeah
[20:13] <gremble> but they've become quite expensive
[20:13] <theblazehen> What size you looking for?
[20:13] <theblazehen> My WD10EZEX is around 750 for 1TB. Performs well
[20:14] <gremble> Smallest you get these days is 1TB so probably that
[20:14] <theblazehen> Boots in 19 seconds
[20:14] <gremble> But the places around here doesn't seem to have those. Not 7200 rpm at least
[20:14] <theblazehen> Ah, you're not in SA right?
[20:14] <theblazehen> Europe somewhere?
[20:14] <gremble> No, I'm in Pretoria
[20:14] <gremble> We've met
[20:14] <gremble> :P
[20:15] <theblazehen> Ah, yeah :)
[20:15] <theblazehen> wootware.co.za is great. Cheap too
[20:16] <gremble> Yes, this is nice. Thanks theblazehen
[20:17] <theblazehen> Spent over 50k there :)
[20:17] <theblazehen> When me and my dad were into bitcoin mining
[20:18] <gremble> Ooh, they have a nice cheap T440P thinkpad :<
[20:18] <theblazehen> nice. I hate most laptop keyboards.. Can hardly ever push Super + shift with one finger
[20:19] <theblazehen> Got a K70 mechanical keyboard with MX Blues now :)
[20:19] <theblazehen> Cost me 2 grand.. Worth it
[20:19] <gremble> Nice. One day when I am rich I'll get a mechanical keyboard
[20:19] <theblazehen> Yeah, you'll never go back to normal..
[20:19] <gremble> I'm not to averse to my Compaq 6510b's keyboard
[20:20] <gremble> Better than the desktop's for sure
[20:20] <theblazehen> My old keyboard was made like 15 years ago. Pretty decent. But not as good as this one :) 2nd best keyboard I've ever used
[20:26] <Kilos> night all sleep tight
[20:26] <theblazehen> night Kilos
[20:27] <gremble> I'm sitting here looking at a haskell repository and wondering if I shouldn't instead rewrite it in python :<
[20:27] <theblazehen> Yeah, python ftw
[20:28] <gremble> I hate having to decide which programming language to use haha because I am never sure which would be better for the scope of the project
[20:28] <gremble> XD
[20:29] <gremble> Also, it is probably because I am an excellent bikeshedder
[20:29] <theblazehen> Yeah. I tend to normally go for python.. Even for things that it's a bad idea for...
[20:30] <theblazehen> Yes! Just discovered that I lost the code I was just thinking about :)
[20:30] <gremble> Always nice to discover that code is lost
[20:30] <theblazehen> yeah
[20:30] <gremble> Should've used version control
[20:30] <gremble> :P
[20:30] <theblazehen> No thanks
[20:35] <theblazehen> night guys
[20:36] <gremble> Night
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[00:00] <santa_> sgclark: I hope so
[00:00] <sgclark> excellent :) I can hold off on the new stuff
[00:14] <yofel> FYI: I'm on a trip until sunday, so don't expect me to reply as I won't be checking IRC
[00:14] <yofel> nini
[00:16] <sgclark> yofel: ok have a great trip!
[00:17] <santa_> +1
[00:17] <santa_> pushed the add/remove ppa suffix scripts, so it should be ready for a first test run now
[00:20] <sgclark> ok, still fixing CI builds. Should be ready to test tomorrow morning.
[00:25] <santa_> sgclark: please give me a ping before proceeding so I can assist you with doubts or bugs in the scriptery ;)
[00:26] <sgclark> santa_: will do :) thanks for doing this!
[00:26] <santa_> yw, since its the first time we would be using this I would like to keep an eye on how you use it :)
[07:03] <soee_> good morning
[07:04] <soee_> some good news: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/new-usb-startup-creator-is-being-made-for-ubuntu-16-04-lts-495794.shtml
[07:39] <sgclark> oh bloody hell it is 2400 for me. Vacation! Or some such. Jens neeeds to be involed.... Hense Sweden!
[07:46] <soee_> hiho sgclark
[07:48] <sgclark> hey
[07:49] <soee_> sgclark: i had not time yet to watch last podcast, how is teh situation with the build server. Rick mentioned DO could sponsor it ?
[07:50] <sgclark> way late. must sleep..
[07:50] <soee_> ok, have a good night
[07:51] <sgclark> I can try. Suceeed? dunno
[07:52] <sgclark> I need a job sorry
[08:47] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: I've installed powerline and started it
[08:47] <ovidiu-florin> but it's ugly as hell
[08:47] <ovidiu-florin> why does it not look like in the pictures?
[08:49] <sitter> wrong font? rtfm? :P
[08:50] <ovidiu-florin> I'm RTFMing
[08:50] <sitter> use the right font then :P
[08:50] <ovidiu-florin> I don't think it's the font
[08:50] <ovidiu-florin> I think it's the theme
[08:50] <ovidiu-florin> and I can't figure out how to change it
[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:53] <sitter> I am not sure how I can help
[08:53] <sitter> lordievader: good morning
[08:54] <lordievader> Hey sitter
[08:56] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: do you have a custom config for it?
[08:57] <sitter> I have an ohmyzsh with a .zshrc that configures it to use the bullet-train theme
[08:58] <ovidiu-florin> where did you get that theme from
[08:58] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[08:59] <sitter> comes bundled I think
[09:00] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: https://github.com/caiogondim/bullet-train-oh-my-zsh-theme ?
[09:00] <sitter> yeah
[09:06] <lordievader> zsh :D
[09:44] * ovidiu-florin is trying out zsh
[09:57] <allee> Is there a known workaround with -dbg pkgs not found (libqxcb) or partialy missing (libglib, libQt5Core, libQt5Quick ...) in crash report asistant. krunner crash but no dbg for lib{qxcb. SomeQt5core
[10:03] <sitter> fixing the lookup algorithm is the workaround
[10:07] <allee> :-) So no bug report :-( I even ponder if it makes sense at all to report 2 monitor related bugs, given that we use qt 5.4 and not 5.5
[10:10] <allee> sitter: but wait, this why libqxcb.so symbols are not found, but why are some in symbols in e.g. libQt5 resolved and other not.
[10:10] <sitter> I do not know
[10:10] <allee> *this explains
[10:10] <allee> k
[10:12] <Blizzz> is it expected that akonadictl consumes cpu constantly? just put an issue upstream https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354937
[10:15] <allee> Blizz: add process list which akonadi proc. E.g. konsole as wide as possible. Start top, quit and c&p the process that consume to much CPU
[10:15] <allee> ^ s/top/htop/
[10:16] <allee> Blizzz: check ~/.xsession-error is akonadi resource constantly log something
[10:17] <allee> I've no akonadi cpu problems currently but does akonadictl stop and restarting help in your case?
[10:19] <Blizzz> allee: i added a screenshot of htop
[10:20] <Blizzz> allee: yes, akonadi writes to .xsession-errors
[10:20] <Blizzz> i'll add to the bug report
[10:21] <allee> Blizzz: is your qt5.5 self compiled? Or which deb repo?
[10:21] <Blizzz> allee: from http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/backup-qt551/ubuntu/
[10:22] <Blizzz> https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/backup-qt551
[10:22] <Blizzz> i have seen this in 5.4 as well, but did not investigate… went to 5.5 because of issues with multiple monitors
[10:23] <allee> Blizzz: you read my mind ;-) I was pondering about 5.5 because of (minor but anoying) mult. monitor problems too. Did it fix some mult monitor
[10:24] <allee> for you?
[10:25] <Blizzz> allee: at office, i connect via VGA to an external one. With 5.5.1 it does it smoothly. Without, i needed to restart plasmashell manually after plugging in, and it crashed when unplugging. this is all good now.
[10:25] <Blizzz> in the .xsession-errors you see, it's always the same two items 149472 and 112251 that are mentioned
[10:31] <allee> Blizzz: much luck! KDEPIM is unfortunatly hopelessly understaffed.
[10:32] <allee> I would try adonadictl and try to find the item. Maybe the content show you why they are special. But for most of my akonadi problem I had to give up :-(
[10:32] <vip> anybody heard about resolution of bug about logging in lag?
[10:33] <Blizzz> allee: yes… and it took ages until the Qt4/KDE4 version became usable. I took me three attempts to go back to it, until it was good enough for professional use. Okay, thanks so far!
[10:33] <allee> vip: no news about akondi delay on login. :-(
[10:34] <vip> allee: i've heard it is more networkmanager/bluetooth bug
[10:34] <vip> allee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/+bug/1509334
[10:34] <allee> vip: ah yes, these are two differ beast. Here it was akonadi
[10:34] <vip> found it
[10:35] <soee_> vip i think it is not released yet for wily
[10:36] <soee_> vip: ut you can download and install package with fix: https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/wily/+packages
[10:36] <Blizzz> another thing: in my KDE menu there are several applications without Icon, like Dolphin or Firefox. Known?
[10:36] <allee> Blizzz: yes.
[10:37] <allee> Path changed between kde 4 and 5 version of apps :-(
[10:37] <vip> soee_: thanks, both nm and akonadi bugs are patched?
[10:37] <soee_> nm only
[10:47] <allee> Blizzz: btw. how long does login take for you? Here ~ 30s with ln -s /bin/true /usr/local/bin/akonadiserver ~ 4 sec.
[10:50] <vip> allee: btw, how do you then start akonadi after login?
[10:52] <allee> vip: that just to measure and prove delay is akonadis fault. (like remove plasma-nm to prove delay is caused by the app)
[10:52] <vip> ah, ok
[11:12] <jmux> Riddell: so do we have a LibreOffice KDE5 meeting on Monday? When and where?
[11:13] <Riddell> jmux: yes, 14:00CET in #libreoffice-something
[11:13] <Riddell> jmux: -design?
[11:15] <jmux> Riddell: #libreoffice-design is fine. I'll block one hour
[11:15] <jmux> Riddell: Or do you expect we need longer?
[11:15] <Riddell> jmux: nah an hour is fine
[11:23] <Blizzz> allee: login does not take long, definitely not half a minue
[11:23] <Blizzz> 4 sec, if at all. I have session restore disabled
[11:26] <allee> Blizzz: thx for the info. Interesting. How may akonadi related proc. have you running? ps x | grep akonad[i] | wc -l (here 25 proc)
[11:29] <Blizzz> allee: 21
[11:30] <Blizzz> with 3 email, one carddav and one caldav account
[11:30] <allee> hmm, so what the hell is different for soee_ and me that akondi uses so much time. Grr..
[11:56] <Blizzz> allee: maybe not using disconnect imap?
[11:57] <clivejo> allee: have you the plasma-nm patch?
[12:00] <clivejo> before the patch was applied plasma-nm was delaying login by 30 seconds
[12:01] <clivejo> allee: what version have you installed "dpkg -s plasma-nm"
[12:02] <clivejo> and what version of Kubuntu?
[12:07] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: please help me
[12:07] <sitter> 42
[12:07] <ovidiu-florin> I've looked throught he manual and cannot fix it
[12:09] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: http://imgur.com/qgTarmB
[12:09] <ovidiu-florin> compared to this image: https://github.com/caiogondim/bullet-train-oh-my-zsh-theme
[12:09] <ovidiu-florin> I have zsh installed and set as defaul
[12:09] <ovidiu-florin> and set it's theme to ^^
[12:09] <ovidiu-florin> like it sais in it's readme
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> but no powerline
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> why doesn't the theme look the same?
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> I have the fonts installed in ~/.fonts
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> and I've installed ttf-ancient-fonts
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> and rebooted
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:12] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: you have to set the font as your konsole font
[12:12] <sitter> what you are seeing is exactly what happens when it's not useing a powerlined font
[12:14] <ovidiu-florin> fixed
[12:14] <ovidiu-florin> thanks
[12:49] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: do you use powerline with python 2 or 3?
[12:50] <ovidiu-florin> because I've installed and use it with python 3
[12:50] <ovidiu-florin> and the vim we ship does not support python3
[12:53] <allee> clivejo: ii plasma-nm 4:5.4.2-0ubuntu1
[12:54] <allee> clivejo: but I was not affected by plasma-nm delay (mac air with bt). Replacing akonadi with /bin/true I could login in 4-5 sec
[12:58] <allee> clivejo,soee_: I've found out that with akonadictl stop, then logout, the login need ~ 7 sec. Without akonadictl stop before logout it's 30 sec. See #akonadi. thx to Blizzz for the inspiration to try this :-)
[13:00] <soee_> allee: ood to know, thanks ! :)
[13:00] <soee_> *good
[13:01] <allee> clivejo: ah, forgot: I'm using wily
[13:02] <Blizzz> wow, strange. sounds like it's not stopping by itself probably on logout/shutdown
[13:04] <allee> Blizzz: akonadi not running after logout. but something goes wrong how it's stopped. See proc list: https://paste.kde.org/ptfptwcvo
[13:05] * allee wonders why every logout gives an additional kuiserver5 process that runs until shutdown
[13:05] <Blizzz> more is better?
[13:06] * allee notes: only sometimes konsole is not resotored
[13:06] <allee> Blizzz: lol. Wenn ich einmal reich waere,didel...
[13:08] <Blizzz> meanwhile i wonder where the debug symbols for akonadi_davgroupware_resource are. they should be in kdepim-runtime-dbg, but apparently are missing.
[13:09] <Blizzz> once upon a time it was possible to open a bug in launchpad, no?
[13:10] <allee> Blizzz: me too. I've asked the same today. response: [11:03:47] <sitter> fixing the lookup algorithm is the workaround
[13:10] <allee> but this does not explain why sometimes some symbols are resolved and other missing :-(
[13:11] <Blizzz> yeah…
[13:11] <Blizzz> how to do this anyway?
[13:12] <allee> Usually I checked which pkg a lib was in (dpkg -S /path/to/lib) and added -dbg to pkg name and installed it. But this didn't work today for the first time.
[13:13] <allee> with the some symbols resolved some not. I'm totally glueless. Must be a bug during -dbg generation IMHO.
[13:16] <Blizzz> ok
[13:16] <Blizzz> i fought launchpad and filed this now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim-runtime/+bug/1513830
[13:43] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: I can't find how to set powerline to use bullet-train. Please advise
[13:44] <sitter> that sentence makes no sense
[13:44] <sitter> bullet-train is an implementation of the powerline style
[13:44] <ovidiu-florin> oh
[13:44] <ovidiu-florin> I thought bullet-train is a theme for zsh
[13:44] <sitter> which implements the powerline style
[13:45] <ovidiu-florin> ah
I have an ohmyzsh with a .zshrc that configures it to use the bullet-train theme
[13:47] <ovidiu-florin> where does powerline come in this scenario?
[14:04] <soee_> http://www.mattermost.org/
[14:05] <soee_> inegrates with http://www.mattermost.org/community-applications/
[14:58] <shadeslayer> where did we keep our packaging in bzr?
[14:59] <shadeslayer> ah nvm
[15:00] <shadeslayer> packagers, not packaging is the team
[15:00] <clivejo> what you looking for shadeslayer
[15:00] <shadeslayer> clivejo: nothing in particular
[15:34] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-173-gc56fba8 * Aleix Pol: muon (20 files in 6 dirs)
[15:34] <pursuivant> Preparation for the split
[15:34] <pursuivant> Move the required classes within libMuonApt into muon
[15:34] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/c56fba86f6850effca3c146f75e66b0154ad5994
[15:34] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-174-g60e429d * Aleix Pol: (16 files in 5 dirs)
[15:34] <pursuivant> Move libmuonapt within the ApplicationsBackend
[15:34] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/60e429d4e6d3b5a04a2a35fbd371b33a9bb053f0
[16:35] <jmux> Riddell: https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2015/11/Munich
[16:37] <jmux> shadeslayer, yofel, everybody else: ^^^
[16:50] <nluxton> Hi - I can't set the window manager in Kubuntu 15.10 - I have a set_window_manager.sh in the plasma-workspace/env/ dir but it doesn't set KDEWM - however, if I chang 'startkde' like the following: https://paste.kde.org/p2hzjumog -- then it starts working.
[16:53] <nluxton> Anyone got any idea what might be happening to cause this to go wrong in the 'vanilla' case?
[16:55] <shadeslayer> well, you've just removed the exception handling there
[16:56] <shadeslayer> I would recommend asking in #kde
[16:56] <nluxton> I tried that to no avail - I'll try again next week
[16:56] <shadeslayer> ah
[16:57] <shadeslayer> yeah :)
[16:57] <nluxton> :)
[16:57] <shadeslayer> I'm not sure honesty :)
[16:57] <shadeslayer> nluxton: perhaps you can set +x on startkde and check .xsession-errors
[16:57] <shadeslayer> to see why your script doesn't work
[16:57] <nluxton> I ran it interactively in order to figure it out thus far
[16:58] <nluxton> I mean, my script seems fine ... it's just export KDEWM=/usr/bin/xmonad
[16:58] <nluxton> It was working fine until I upgraded to 15.10 today
[16:58] <shadeslayer> nluxton: maybe check what running (test -r "$file" && . "$file") || : gives you
[16:59] <shadeslayer> nluxton: perhaps it's too late in the startup sequence and kwin has already taken over
[16:59] <shadeslayer> I also recall there being a option somewhere to set your custom wm
[16:59] <nluxton> Well, it works without the || : bit
[16:59] <nluxton> Just like it used to
[17:00] <shadeslayer> nluxton: yeah but run that in your shell
[17:00] <shadeslayer> with the ||
[17:00] <nluxton> And it seems like kwin gets set as the default later on if it's blank
[17:00] <nluxton> Yeah it works fine in the shell
[17:00] <shadeslayer> nluxton: ok, maybe make your file touch a script somewhere
[17:00] <nluxton> Unless I use the || : bit - and then everything works fine, except that KDEWM stays blank
[17:00] <nluxton> Good shout
[17:00] <nluxton> Make sure it's actually sourced
[17:00] <shadeslayer> correct
[17:02] <nluxton> Yep
[17:02] <nluxton> Definitely running
[17:02] <shadeslayer> nluxton: that's with the ||: ?
[17:02] <nluxton> Yep
[17:02] <nluxton> I just reset startkde to vanilla (and set the 'is kde running?' check to 1 so that it tries everything anyway lol)
[17:02] <shadeslayer> ok, well, try dumping the env into a file before and after the import
[17:03] <shadeslayer> er, export
[17:03] <shadeslayer> I mean
[17:03] <shadeslayer> from your script
[17:03] <shadeslayer> perhaps even a pidof kwin_x11
[17:03] <shadeslayer> that way we'll know if kwin_x11 gets started before KDEWM gets set
[17:03] <shadeslayer> then that'd be the problem
[17:03] <nluxton> Well I echod it to the screen before, before and after, and again when it checks if KDEWM is blank later on in the startkde script, and they were all blank
[17:04] <shadeslayer> oh, then isn't that the issue?
[17:04] <shadeslayer> nluxton: you could also try putting it in /etc/environment
[17:04] <nluxton> Yeah - I'm attempting to understand why that's happening
[17:04] <shadeslayer> I mean, it /should/ work there
[17:05] <shadeslayer> and when debugging bash scripts, +x is your friend ;)
[17:05] <nluxton> Because it's a change in behaviour since 15.04 ... why should a simple source op stop working?
[17:05] <nluxton> >.<
[17:05] <shadeslayer> so you probably want to do that in startkde
[17:05] <shadeslayer> nluxton: well, maybe startkde changed
[17:06] <nluxton> Yeah that was my next step is to start figuring it all out myself - and then potentially raising bug reports etc - I just hoped I might short-circuit that ;)
[17:06] <nluxton> Someone could say "It's because || : doesn't work in dash" or something like that haha
[17:07] <nluxton> What is the " || :" construct anyway?
[17:07] <shadeslayer> not sure
[17:08] <shadeslayer> well
[17:08] <shadeslayer> : is true
[17:08] <shadeslayer> so as I understand it, it's exception handling
[17:09] <shadeslayer> if (test -r "$file" && . "$file") evaluates to false, OR it with true?
[17:09] <nluxton> Yeah it seems like a way of ignoring failures
[17:09] <shadeslayer> yeah I guess
[17:09] <nluxton> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16357755/meaning-of-colon-in-bash-after-a-double-pipe
[17:09] <nluxton> Rather than having the whole script fail
[17:09] <shadeslayer> indeed
[17:09] <nluxton> The weird thing is, if I remove it, it works fine - if I add it, something breaks
[17:09] <nluxton> >.<
[17:10] <nluxton> Computers, honestly
[17:11] <nluxton> Wow
[17:12] <nluxton> The test + source has an exit code of 1
[17:12] <nluxton> If I remove the double quotes, it's fine
[17:13] <nluxton> Nope
[17:13] <nluxton> I had a typo
[17:14] <nluxton> OH MY
[17:14] <nluxton> It's the parentheses
[17:14] <shadeslayer> what about the parentheses
[17:14] <nluxton> With them, it doesn't set the variable
[17:14] <nluxton> Without them, it works fine
[17:15] <nluxton> (in both cases, without the || :)
[17:15] <shadeslayer> huh
[17:15] <shadeslayer> I wonder why
[17:15] <nluxton> Is it starting a subshell or something weird?
[17:15] <shadeslayer> I honestly don't know
[17:15] <shadeslayer> lets see
[17:16] <shadeslayer> yes
[17:16] <shadeslayer> nluxton: (export FOO="bar")
[17:16] <shadeslayer> does not give me a foo var :P
[17:16] <nluxton> whoa
[17:16] <shadeslayer> I think because () evaluates everything inside
[17:16] <nluxton> OK, I think that constitutes a bug, right?
[17:16] <shadeslayer> no, that's interesting bash stuff :P
[17:17] <nluxton> Haha, I mean a bug in kdestart ;)
[17:17] <shadeslayer> nluxton: try this
[17:17] <nluxton> Maybe someone switching between langs and thinking "Yeah, this will be fine"
[17:17] <shadeslayer> eval export KDEWM
[17:17] <nluxton> oooh
[17:18] <nluxton> nope
[17:18] <nluxton> Damn, I have to leave work now
[17:19] <shadeslayer> oh :(
[17:19] <nluxton> I'll do it Monday - thanks for being my rubber duck! :D
[17:19] <shadeslayer> yw
[17:19] <nluxton> Have a great weekend
[17:23] <shadeslayer> you know, I never thought about it, but computers are bigger on the inside :O
[17:23] <shadeslayer> some of them are also blue
[17:46] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-175-gb8bb3a1 * Aleix Pol: (395 files in 47 dirs)
[17:46] <pursuivant> Remove discover
[17:46] <pursuivant> And the whole abstraction layer as it's being moved into a separate
[17:46] <pursuivant> repository.
[17:46] <pursuivant> With it, also the notifier plasmoid, updater and exporter.
[17:46] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/b8bb3a144ee1b7bb560f09777d5c5966a3c9ac39
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[00:47] <aaaa> olá
[00:47] <astroo-> ola
[00:47] <aaaa> ubuntu tem versão português
[00:47] <aaaa> ?
[00:47] <astroo-> sim
[00:47] <aaaa> e vale a pena mesmo? ouvi dizer que é bom
[00:48] <astroo-> e dos mais populares no mundo linux
[00:48] <aaaa> e qual versão devo usar
[00:49] <Geese_Howard> aaaa: valer a pena, depende do que vocẽ busca
[00:49] <astroo-> diz que pc tens
[00:49] <aaaa> i5 3330 8 gb ram gtx 650, um pc mediano
[00:49] <aaaa> to com windows 7 queria botar em dual boot
[00:49] <aaaa> um em cada hd
[00:49] <Geese_Howard> "mediano"
[00:50] <aaaa> é mediano pow, esse processador tem uns 8 anos que foi feito
[00:50] <Geese_Howard> acho que menos
[00:50] <Geese_Howard> mas blza
[00:50] <Geese_Howard> é um bom pc
[00:50] <Geese_Howard> com 8G de ram
[00:50] <aaaa> 5*
[00:50] <Geese_Howard> e essa gtx
[00:50] <aaaa> kk
[00:50] <Geese_Howard> melhor ainda ter dois hds
[00:50] <Geese_Howard> basta instalar
[00:50] <aaaa> qual o senhor acha boa?
[00:51] <Geese_Howard> aaaa: como assim?
[00:51] <aaaa> qual versão do ubuntu
[00:51] <aaaa> não gostei daquela do unicornio, meio feminino
[00:52] <Geese_Howard> aaaa: bom, não sei bichos
[00:52] <Geese_Howard> aaaa: mas a versão recomendada é 14.04.3
[00:52] <aaaa> ta
[00:52] <aaaa> vlw =D
[01:20] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[01:20] <Celso> buenas
[01:21] <nuno_nunes> alguem está a precisar de suporte :D
[01:21] <barna> nuno_nunes, ja q ofereceu.....
[01:22] <nuno_nunes> diga la desta vez barna
[01:22] <astroo-> ola
[01:22] <nuno_nunes> já que ofereci o que
[01:22] <barna> KKKKKKKKKKKKk
[01:23] <nuno_nunes> já resolveu o problema do nfs
[01:23] <nuno_nunes> :D
[01:23] <barna> 1seg
[01:23] <nuno_nunes> lol
[01:23] <barna> tavo no telefone.
[01:24] <barna> na verdade não, ja tentei de tudo e cabei desistindo e partindo pro smb q funfa de boas.
[01:25] <nuno_nunes> o smb dá sempre
[01:25] <nuno_nunes> :D
[01:25] <nuno_nunes> :D
[01:26] <barna> pois é, queria usar smb não, preferia o nfs mas fazer o q né?
[01:27] <nuno_nunes> eu sou do tempo que a configurar smb era da idade da pedra tudo em terminal
[01:27] <nuno_nunes> :D
[01:27] <nuno_nunes> barna, com tu com smb podes criar um dominio de uma rede :D
[01:28] <barna> ixi, ai vc já foi alem das minhas capacidades, eu sou uma anta em relação a rede.
[01:29] <nuno_nunes> ah manuais a explicar como fazer isso
[01:29] <nuno_nunes> :D
[01:30] <nuno_nunes> eu em 2007 eu tive que arranjar um script para conseguir por o smb no linux a trabalhar :D
[01:48] <juliano> Bom noite pessoal.
[01:49] <nuno_nunes> boa precisas de ajuda
[01:49] <hggdh> ...
[01:50] <SHAMANBM> Obrigado, so socializando
[01:50] <nuno_nunes> :S
[01:50] <nuno_nunes> hggdh, boas :d
[01:50] <SHAMANBM> Saber o que ocorre de bom por aqui.
[01:50] <hggdh> nuno_nunes: boas :-)
[01:51] <hggdh> SHAMANBM: este é um canal de suporte ao Ubuntu. Nao um canal para sociais
[01:51] <SHAMANBM> Entendi.
[01:52] <SHAMANBM> Quando eu tiver um duvida eu entro no canal. kk
[01:52] <nuno_nunes> tudo bem
[01:52] <astroo-> juliano ola
[01:52] <nuno_nunes> hggdh, tudo bem
[01:53] <nuno_nunes> SHAMANBM, tu bem sabes ler o titulo do canal :D
[01:54] <SHAMANBM> Ola
[01:54] <astroo-> ola
[01:56] <nuno_nunes> ja que ninguem quer ajuda vou me retirar
[01:56] <astroo-> SHAMANBM bem-vindo
[01:59] <MerliM> hggdh, comecou ne mano ahuahuahuah
[01:59] <MerliM> humor acido
[01:59] <hggdh> MerliM: nada de surpreendente
[02:01] <MerliM> kkkkkkkkk
[02:01] <MerliM> to felizzzz amanha minhas filhas vem me ve lol
[02:09] <asdf999> uma pergunta aqui
[02:10] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: pergunte
[02:10] <asdf999> quantas maquinas kvm eu consigo abrir ao mesmo tempo com 2 GB de ram ?
[02:10] <asdf999> em um core duo
[02:11] <Geese_Howard> bem poucas
[02:11] <Geese_Howard> heuheiuhiuh
[02:11] <asdf999> hum
[02:12] <asdf999> queria abrir dois kodi ao mesmo tempo
[02:12] <asdf999> ia ficar bacana
[02:13] <asdf999> é perigoso usar a memoria swap para vida util do hd ?
[02:13] <asdf999> alguem sabe ?
[02:14] <MerliM> asdf999, depende memoria swap implica em I/O de disco teoriamente nao reduziria a vida util se o hd estivesse em bom estado
[02:15] <MerliM> porem se for fazer algo assim a recomendacao é um disco so pra swap
[02:15] <asdf999> MerliM, entendi
[02:15] <MerliM> disco pequeno saca
[02:15] <barna> mas tudo ficaria leeeeennnnntttttoooooooo..........
[02:15] <MerliM> nem tudo sao floress
[02:15] <asdf999> entendi
[02:17] <asdf999> iria bolar aqui um livecd com o kodi configurado em uma maquina kvm para abrir mais de um canal de tv ao mesmo tempo
[02:17] <asdf999> ia ficar fino demais
[02:17] <MerliM> dimensiona e ve os custo/beneficio de tal solucao
[02:18] <asdf999> MerliM, está certo mano
[02:22] <asdf999> testando aqui uma iso livecd com kvm e 600 MB de ram e ficou muito lento com o kodi
[02:23] <shallwe> nossa tem gente acordada essa hora :)
[02:23] <asdf999> shallwe, muito cedo ainda
[02:23] <hggdh> idealmente qualquer instancia de VMs rodam em memória real, não em swap.
[02:23] <asdf999> hggdh, valeu
[02:24] <asdf999> mas a maquina real ficaria mais leve com swap, não ?
[02:26] <asdf999> sobrou aqui só 600 MB de ram, sem usar swap
[02:27] <hggdh> swap só é usado se a memória real está over-committed. Neste momento, tudo já está perdido.
[02:28] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: swap não faz milagre champs
[02:28] <asdf999> hggdh, se eu ativo a swap, ele ocupa 30 MB
[02:28] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: compre memória ram
[02:28] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, eu sempre soube que swap é um perigo para vida util do hd
[02:29] <asdf999> é correto isso ?
[02:29] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: por quais motivos?
[02:29] <shallwe> Geese_Howard, vc não usa swap?
[02:29] <asdf999> pelo fato de sobrescrever varias vezes o hardware do hd
[02:30] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: neste momento estou usando 194M da swap
[02:30] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: e vc não faz isso normalmente?
[02:30] <shallwe> a bom
[02:30] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: logs sendo escritos sem parar
[02:31] <shallwe> eu com 1.6gb ram to usando 1gb de ram no ubuntu e olha que tenho coisas abertas
[02:31] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, swap rescreve a cada 5 s por causa do refresh e assim subutiliza o hd
[02:31] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: acho que logs escrevem sem parar
[02:31] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: entre outras aplicações
[02:31] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: resumindo
[02:32] <shallwe> isso de hd estragar por escrever de mais deve ser bobagem
[02:32] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, swap é bem mais que logs
[02:32] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: acho que este conceito de swap deteriorar disco é por causa da qualidade/tecnologia dos discos mais antigos
[02:32] <shallwe> tenho um hd fumado aqui que ta estalando o pino, ai tenho um prgrama que fica copiando um arquivo toda hora kkkk
[02:32] <shallwe> assim ele nao estala :)
[02:33] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, de certa forma tu tá correto
[02:33] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: atualmente eu acredito que deteriore da mesma maneira que o uso normal
[02:33] <shallwe> de 3 em 3s ele copia 10mb pro hd e assim fica
[02:33] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: mas veja, ninguém usa swap mais
[02:33] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: devido aos preços da memória ram terem despencado
[02:33] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: "ninguém"
[02:34] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: como servidores
[02:34] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, compre um ssd e coloque um 2 GB de swap nele e veja quanto tempo ele dura
[02:34] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: não sou beta tester de ssd
[02:34] <asdf999> não passa de 5 meses
[02:34] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: mas me diga, por que eu gastaria com um ssd e não com um pente de memória ram?
[02:35] <Geese_Howard> detectada a presença de offtopic
[02:35] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, é só para tu ver como swap estraga o hardware
[02:35] <Geese_Howard> asdf999: faz aí, depois nos conte
[02:36] <Geese_Howard> até lá, digo que é improvável
[02:36] <Geese_Howard> prove que estou errado
[02:36] * Geese_Howard troll face!
[02:42] <asdf999> éeeeé, o kvm aqui se manteve com 800MB de ram
[02:43] <asdf999> mas sem chance de abrir duas maquinas virtuais ao mesmo tempo
[02:43] <asdf999> fica muito lento
[02:43] <Geese_Howard> pq será?
[02:44] <asdf999> estou sem swap no momento
[02:44] <asdf999> acredito que ela não melhore a perfomance da segunda maquina virtual
[02:45] <asdf999> mas ficou bacana aqui o kodi no kvm
[02:46] <asdf999> dá para ver tv e usar o xchat ao mesmo tempo
[02:48] <asdf999> e isso tudo rodando de um livecd com 2 GB de ram
[02:53] <asdf999> deu pau mano
[02:53] <asdf999> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[02:55] <asdf999> deve ser falta de memoria mesmo
[02:55] <asdf999> kkkkkkkkkk
[02:55] <shallwe> vcs querem milagre o.O
[02:56] <asdf999> shallwe, verdade milagre é coisa de ateu
[02:56] <asdf999> kkkkkkkkkkkk
[02:57] <asdf999> vou fazer tudo denovo
[02:58] <Geese_Howard> lembrei do burrinho puxando a carroça
[02:58] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, metidinho ein ?
[02:59] <asdf999> é portuga ?
[02:59] <astroo-> eu e que sou
[02:59] <asdf999> astroo-, foi mal mano
[03:03] <asdf999> pronto, tirei o icecat vamo ver quanto tempo dura
[03:04] <asdf999> acredito que o problema é mais o openbox mesmo
[03:04] <asdf999> deve ter alguma coisa errada nele
[03:05] <asdf999> ele parece que não aceita muito processamento
[03:10] <asdf999> astroo-, foi mal ae mano, sem querer ofender ninguem
[03:10] <astroo-> ok
[03:11] <asdf999> só uma raiva momentanea kkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:10] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[04:11] <asdf999> falou mano
[04:12] <astroo-> ate
[04:23] <zanin> Bom dia!
[04:23] <asdf999> bom dia
[04:24] <shallwe> bom dia
[04:26] <zanin> Será que alguem consegue me dar uma ajuda? Tenho vmware player no note e uma VM rodando nele com rede em NAT. Quando ligo a VM eu não consigo pigar do note para a VM, mas consigo da VM para o note.
[04:26] <zanin> Apos alguns pacotes enviados pela vm para o note, ai eu ja consigo pingar do note para a VM..
[04:26] <zanin> Alguem ja passou por isso?
[04:27] <zanin> Não é bug da VM, mas do VMware Player. Pois acontece com todas as VMs
[04:27] <asdf999> zanin, a nat esconde a maquina virtual mesmo
[04:27] <asdf999> é normal isso
[04:27] <asdf999> é uma segurança
[04:27] <zanin> asdf999: sim, mas não deveria pingar nunca, certo?
[04:28] <asdf999> certo
[04:28] <zanin> Pq se eu vou na VM e pingo o note, depois de alguns pacotes eu já consigo efetuar o ping em qualquer um dos dois. Tanto do note quanto da VM.
[04:29] <asdf999> entendi
[04:29] <asdf999> pode ser algum problema da vmware mesmo
[04:29] <asdf999> algum bug
[04:30] <asdf999> no virtualbox é a mesma coisa ?
[04:30] <zanin> Pois é. Como se não tivesse a VM na minha arp do note. Ai quando pingo da vm para o note, o note reconhece o mac (ou sei lá o que acontece) e eles voltam a conversar.
[04:31] <zanin> asdf999: não, no vbox a NAT faz o papel de nat mesmo hehehe não conversa icmp entre eles
[04:31] <asdf999> então é bug do vmware mesmo
[04:32] <zanin> é.. :( Pior que já testei várias versões =/
[04:32] <asdf999> tenta o kvm mano
[04:32] <asdf999> ele é bom
[04:33] <zanin> asdf999: é bom mesmo! já usei o proxmox e é show de bola! Mas no meu caso aqui em especifico, o vmware atende melhor
[04:33] <asdf999> entendi
[04:38] <zanin> asdf999: só para te dar um retorno.. acabei de achar um link aqui (https://communities.vmware.com/thread/421560) e um dos posts me ajudou. Parece que tinha algum registro estático na minha tabela arp.. limpei e parece que resolveu :)
[04:39] <zanin> asdf999: valeu ae pelo tempo
[04:39] <asdf999> o bom é que tu conseguiu resolver
[04:39] <asdf999> bom demais
[04:40] <zanin> \o/
[05:15] <Guest70832> alguém aqui sabe português ?
[05:15] <Guest70832> ata fui
[11:49] <asdf999> éeeeé o kodi aqui agora aguentou todo esse tempo
[11:49] <asdf999> sem travar
[11:49] <rafael>
[12:04] <elisboa> é
[13:06] <mirqui> bom dia ?)
[13:06] <mirqui> :)
[13:16] <shallwe> bom dia
[13:19] <NoRm4nD> que maravilha !!!!
[13:20] <Geese_Howard> NoRm4nD: hueheiuheieiuhe
[13:23] <shallwe> ó ta quase, steam machine com linux kernel 4.1 quase saindo do forno
[13:23] <shallwe> só estou curioso quando aos drivers da ati e amd, quanto a performance
[13:24] <NoRm4nD> ora de abacalhar novamente os ubuntuzeiros !! não estar banido aqui é um insulto
[13:24] <Geese_Howard> será que vai rolar mass effect 4?
[13:24] <NoRm4nD> pena que o Rudolff vai ficar bravo
[13:25] <shallwe> Geese_Howard, mass effect 4 vai sair pra linux?
[13:25] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: SONHA!
[13:25] <shallwe> acho que esses jogos da EA não saem kkk
[13:25] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: ou seja, jogos de verdade jamé
[13:25] <shallwe> até agora não entendi essa do steam machine com linux
[13:25] <Geese_Howard> nem vou perder tempo então
[13:26] <shallwe> eu sempre falo, quer jogar vai pra windows e não fiquem me enchendo o saco perguntando de driver melhor kkkk
[13:26] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: eu também
[13:26] <shallwe> já instalei uma vez steam no ubuntu quando eu tinha uma nvidia, joguei dota 2, o jogo até foi legal
[13:26] <shallwe> rodou tão bem quanto no windows, mas eram poucos jogos
[13:27] <shallwe> e agora tem vários, mas tudo meia boca kkk, ai o pessoal abre a boca pra falar que linux tem mais de 1000 jogos, quero ver filtrar esses jogos kkk
[13:27] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, "eu sempre falo, quer jogar compra um console e não fiquem em enchendo o saco"
[13:27] <eloi_carneiro> rsrsrs
[13:27] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, é verdade :) já vem tudo pronto nem precisa configurar nada
[13:28] <shallwe> por isso que até hoje ainda tnho meu WIi na sala :) guerreiro
[13:28] <eloi_carneiro> eu tenho o wii
[13:28] <eloi_carneiro> e o xbox 360
[13:28] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, eu só wii, vou até uma vez tentar rodar um linux nele só pra ver qual é
[13:28] <eloi_carneiro> e quando sair de férias novamente vou pegar um ps4
[13:28] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, como é bom ser jovem kkk eu não tenho mais tempo
[13:29] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, e quem disse que eu tenho? e só nas férias
[13:29] <shallwe> gasto meu tempo com trabalho, estudo ubuntu e o que resta patroa ainda me suga o tempo
[13:29] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, isso que é foda, agora que eu tenho dinheiro pra comprar os console, não tenho tempo pra jogar
[13:29] <Geese_Howard> eloi_carneiro: tá nadando na grana em Patinhas?
[13:30] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, nadando na grana não, mas agora sou um cidadão economicamente ativo, dá pra comprar, quando era criança tinha que pedir rsrsrs
[13:31] <shallwe> legal esse libreCAD :) parece autocad isso
[13:34] <shallwe> legal tem até o DraftSight pra ubuntu, maneiro.
[13:35] <shallwe> e depois ainda falam que linux não tem software bom pra cad
[13:35] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: não tendo autocad para linux, é verdade
[13:36] <shallwe> Geese_Howard, claro que autocad é autocad
[13:36] <shallwe> assim como illustrator é illustrator nada se compara
[13:36] <shallwe> e photoshop é photoshop
[13:37] <shallwe> mas o illustrator roda de boa no wine :) já testei
[14:29] <hggdh> NoRm4nD: podemos sempre ajudar, se for necessário.
[14:30] <NoRm4nD> hggdh, é que esse canal é muito chato !!
[14:31] <NoRm4nD> parece puteiro de são gonçalo na terça-feira
[14:31] <NoRm4nD> pelo menos é mais movimento
[14:31] <NoRm4nD> movimentado
[14:32] <hggdh> NoRm4nD: o próximo é ban
[14:33] <NoRm4nD> hauhahuauh pode deixar
[14:33] <NoRm4nD> vou me empenhar, mais no momento ficarei apenas no voyer !!
[14:34] <hggdh> é. Eu acho que não vale esperar.
[14:34] <W4l1sh> NoRm4nD, Se quer conversar entre em um canal en
[17:09] <elisboa> eta
[17:44] <W4l1sh> Alguém pretende ir na roadsec ?
[18:09] <vinicio> Hi
[18:09] <vinicio> I need help
[18:24] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[20:00] <W4l1sh> Alguém aí usa o Geany ? Eu não estou conseguindo fazê-lo sugerir a continuação das palavras, só aparece com ^espaço
[20:48] <W4l1sh> Hey galera, estou configurando o apache, segui esse 2º comentário ( askubuntu.com/questions/19898/whats-the-simplest-way-to-edit-and-add-files-to-var-www ) mas quando digito localhost ele me retorna "Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server."
[20:56] <sUbMuNdO> boa noite, nessa faixa de ips 192.168.1.2 até 192.168.1.254 , podem ser colocados quantos computadores?
[20:59] <W4l1sh> sUbMuNdO, http://ipcalc.nmonitoring.com/
[20:59] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[20:59] <asdf999> boa
[21:00] <nuno_nunes> alguem esta a precisar de suporte
[21:01] <andretyn> boa noite, a todos... e ainda não preciso de suporte:))
[21:01] <nuno_nunes> ok
[21:01] <nuno_nunes> estas a vontade
[21:01] <nuno_nunes> :)
[21:02] <asdf999> nuno_nunes, usa qual distro ?
[21:04] <W4l1sh> nuno_nunes, Eu preciso de ajuda c/ apache2
[21:04] <nuno_nunes> eu uso windows 10, linux debian, manjaro, opensuse e ubuntu
[21:05] <asdf999> essa da windows 10 é a pior que ja vi
[21:05] <nuno_nunes> eu nao acho
[21:05] <asdf999> uma porcaria
[21:05] <asdf999> nunca usem isso
[21:05] <nuno_nunes> para mim deu para resolver um programa que nao abre no windows 7 e nem 8
[21:05] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:06] <nuno_nunes> pk o meu pc é uefi :D
[21:06] <asdf999> xp, vista, 7, 8, 10 é tudo virus
[21:06] <asdf999> é o big brother em seu pc
[21:06] <asdf999> use só linux
[21:07] <W4l1sh> Eu fico recebendo "You don't have permission to access / on this server." em localhost
[21:07] <W4l1sh> :/
[21:07] <asdf999> e de preferencia linux-libre
[21:07] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho tudo bloqueado no windows 10 para enviar os dados :D
[21:07] <nuno_nunes> ao menos nao envia :D
[21:08] <nuno_nunes> asdf999, pois eu trabalho com um programa que não dá no linux :D
[21:08] <asdf999> a mais de 15 anos não uso windows
[21:08] <nuno_nunes> nem o wine da :D
[21:08] <nuno_nunes> xD
[21:08] <asdf999> nuno_nunes, é programador ?
[21:09] <nuno_nunes> nao
[21:09] <asdf999> tirei até a bios do meu note
[21:09] <asdf999> coloquei um libreboot
[21:09] <nuno_nunes> eu uso autocad 2014
[21:09] <asdf999> e o trisquel
[21:09] <nuno_nunes> xD
[21:10] <asdf999> autocad realmente só funciona no windows
[21:10] <asdf999> já tentou o blender
[21:10] <nuno_nunes> o blender não para desenho tecnico :D
[21:10] <nuno_nunes> lol
[21:11] <nuno_nunes> o blender é para fazer animações 3D
[21:11] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:11] <asdf999> mas dá para fazer sim
[21:11] <nuno_nunes> lol
[21:11] <nuno_nunes> nao da
[21:11] <nuno_nunes> pk eu trabalho com desenho tecnico :D
[21:11] <asdf999> seja um hacker e voce consegue
[21:12] <nuno_nunes> onde abres os ficheiros dwg :D
[21:12] <asdf999> desenhos tecnicos tem o inskape
[21:12] <nuno_nunes> xD
[21:12] <asdf999> nuno_nunes, não entendi
[21:12] <nuno_nunes> sabes o que sao ploters :D
[21:12] <asdf999> o que é isso ?
[21:12] <nuno_nunes> eu trabalho com ficheiros dwg
[21:12] <asdf999> entendi
[21:13] <nuno_nunes> sao impressoras de trabalho de projectos
[21:13] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:13] <asdf999> no linux tem varios programas especificos para graficas
[21:13] <asdf999> \como o gimp por exemplo
[21:13] <asdf999> muito melhor que qualquer outro
[21:15] <asdf999> eu mesmo nem sei mais mecher em windows
[21:16] <asdf999> parei no windows 98
[21:16] <asdf999> só uso 100 % linux aqui em casa
[21:16] <asdf999> a mais de 15 anos
[21:25] <asdf999> uma pergunta aqui sobre hardware
[21:25] <shallwe> hoje de manhã tinha postado 2 programas pra edição de cad :) mas não sei se abre autocad
[21:25] <asdf999> tem problem deixar o notebook ligado o mês todo 24 horas por dia ?
[21:25] <shallwe> asdf999, na tomada?
[21:25] <asdf999> isso
[21:25] <shallwe> problema nenhum, só a bateria
[21:26] <asdf999> beleza valeu
[21:26] <shallwe> que perderá a capacidade de segurar a carga
[21:26] <shallwe> se vc deixar ligado direto, recomendo remover a bateria
[21:26] <asdf999> beleza
[21:26] <shallwe> ou pelo menos umas 2x por semana usar um pouco na bateria ai tudo bem
[21:26] <asdf999> a bateria aqui já está arriada
[21:26] <asdf999> só dura 10 minutos
[21:26] <shallwe> entao capa fora e era isso
[21:27] <asdf999> vai servir só de nobreak
[21:27] <asdf999> só para desligar com segurança
[21:27] <shallwe> isso aí :) tenho um note menor com ubuntu assim
[21:27] <shallwe> sem bateria só ele direto na tomada só baixo a tampa
[21:27] <asdf999> e quando acaba a energia ?
[21:27] <asdf999> o que voce faz ?
[21:28] <asdf999> perde tudo ?
[21:28] <shallwe> asdf999, o.O cara é muito off topic do ubuntu mas não posso responder essa pergunta kkk
[21:29] <shallwe> como vou perder tudo se tenho ubuntu instalado no hd?
[21:29] <asdf999> shallwe, está certo
[21:29] <asdf999> foi mal ae
[21:29] <shallwe> tranquilo :)
[21:29] <asdf999> eu uso só via live cd
[21:29] <asdf999> só na memoria
[21:29] <shallwe> asdf999, ubuntu?
[21:29] <asdf999> trisquel
[21:30] <shallwe> se fosse ubuntu ele tem a opção de reservar 4gb do pendrive pra usar pra salvar as coisas
[21:30] <shallwe> tudo que vc faz no ubuntu live é gravado ali
[21:30] <shallwe> depois só dar o boot de novo com o live que fica salvo
[21:31] <asdf999> shallwe, entendi
[21:32] <asdf999> acho que o trisquel deve ter alguma coisa parecida
[21:33] <shallwe> se chama "persistente" procura ai vc vai achar
[21:33] <asdf999> beleza
[21:33] <shallwe> persistente é o que faz a partição extra no seu pendrive
[21:33] <asdf999> vou procurar
[21:36] <asdf999> parece que nao tem nao
[21:36] <shallwe> asdf999, nem todos acho que tem isso
[21:37] <asdf999> hum
[21:37] <asdf999> deve seu ppa
[21:38] <asdf999> fora da ubuntu story
[21:54] <W4lish> Ei galera, eu criei um arquivo de texto simples .html e o localhost funcionou normal, quando eu movi meu site ele está dizendo que eu "You don't have permission to access / on this server."
[21:55] <W4lish> Que faço ?
[21:56] <W4lish> Perdi meu dia todo tentando configurar o Apache :/
[21:56] <asdf999> W4l1sh, procure no google sobre apache
[21:56] <asdf999> no viva o linux dever ter sua resposta
[21:56] <W4lish> asdf999, acredite, tudo o que tinha "apache" eu já procurei
[21:57] <asdf999> sou fraco em redes
[21:57] <asdf999> ainda sou estudante nessa area
[22:06] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:07] <asdf999> ola
[22:08] <astroo-> ola
[22:09] <W4l1sh> digitei `sudo iptables -F` e me ferrei
[22:09] <W4l1sh> Hahahah, ainda bem que existe o history
[22:10] <W4l1sh> tinha esquecido o comando z_z
[22:10] <asdf999> W4l1sh, -F apaga tudo
[22:10] <W4l1sh> mas estava como `DROP`
[22:11] <asdf999> se tiver interface grafica recomendo configurar o firewall pelo gufw
[22:11] <asdf999> é mais facil
[22:11] <asdf999> ou pelo ufw no terminal mesmo
[22:14] <Geese_Howard> puff
[22:32] <W4l1sh> O código: http://pastebin.com/JT9gq8VQ
[22:33] <asdf999> W4l1sh, conseguiu resolver ?
[22:33] <W4l1sh> Não
[22:33] <W4l1sh> :/
[22:42] <W4l1sh> aff cara, era apenas uma permissão
[22:42] <W4l1sh> Estava como drwx------
[22:43] <asdf999> W4l1sh, kkkkkk
[22:43] <W4l1sh> Mano, vou dar um mortão ali e já volto
[22:43] <asdf999> beleza
[22:44] <W4l1sh> É uma piada, eoaheoahea
[22:44] <asdf999> não entendi
[22:44] <asdf999> sarcasmo ?
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> alguem esta a precisar de suporte
[22:45] <astroo-> ola
[22:45] <W4l1sh> Não, com "mortão" eu quero dizer "suicídio"
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> what?
[22:46] <asdf999> W4l1sh, kkkkkkkk
[22:46] <W4l1sh> Eu perdi quase 4h tentando arrumar, um `chmod 775` resolveu tudo
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> W4l1sh, lol
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> :d
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> sucidio ao teu pc :D
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> se for chmod 777 é leitura e escrita para todos :D :p
[22:46] <asdf999> W4l1sh, isso é normal no linux
[22:47] <nuno_nunes> as rolling distros é que dao valor :D
[22:47] <asdf999> nuno_nunes, gentoo é muito bom
[22:48] <asdf999> muito rápido
[22:48] <W4l1sh> Pelo menos eu aprendi a lição
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> o gentoo nao gosto :D
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> eu uso o manjaro base arch :D
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> faz tudo o que eu quero
[22:48] <asdf999> nuno_nunes, gentoo te ensina muito sobre o linux
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> lol
[22:48] <asdf999> arch também é bom
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> esse é uma treta para mim
[22:49] <nuno_nunes> o arch e manjaro sao a mesma coisa :D
[22:49] <nuno_nunes> xD
[22:49] <nuno_nunes> sudo pacman -Syyu e faz update de tudo
[22:49] <asdf999> mas gentoo é uma aula de linux por si só
[22:50] <nuno_nunes> o suporte do gentoo é uma bosta
[22:50] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:50] <asdf999> nuno_nunes, é tudo na internet
[22:50] <hggdh> nuno_nunes: linguagem...
[22:51] <asdf999> forum e irc
[22:51] <asdf999> com gentoo você transforma um trator em uma ferrari
[22:54] <nuno_nunes> lol
[22:54] <nuno_nunes> nem num lado e nem no outro
[22:54] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:54] <nuno_nunes> hahaha
[22:54] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:54] <asdf999> nuno_nunes, tudo que é compilado com cflags será sempre mais rápido que a compilação padrão
[22:55] <asdf999> se compilar um sistema todo com a cflag -Ofast vai ser muito mais rápido que a compilação padrão
[22:55] <asdf999> dependendo da versão do gcc
[23:17] <Geese_Howard> asdf999 | com gentoo você transforma um trator em uma ferrari
[23:17] <Geese_Howard> isso é folclore
[23:18] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, eu confirmo isso
[23:18] <asdf999> e sei que é verdade
[23:18] <asdf999> usei gentoo por quase 4 anos
[23:19] <asdf999> e vai depender de como voce gerencia ele para obter essa velocidade
[23:20] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, percebo que você é um menino muito fraco no linux
[23:20] <asdf999> muito menininho ainda
[23:20] <Geese_Howard> nhé
[23:20] <asdf999> tem muita coisa para aprender
[23:20] <Geese_Howard> tu que fala abobrinha e eu que sou o menininho
[23:20] <Geese_Howard> vai na fé aí master chief
[23:21] <asdf999> Geese_Howard, qual sistema você usa ?
[23:21] <asdf999> não diga que é o de tela azul
[23:22] <asdf999> pelo que vejo acredito que você passo o dia todo em joguim no windows 10
[23:23] <Mangusto> Calma asdf999 , gentoo não é a sua mãe (não entenda como uma ofensa)
[23:24] <asdf999> Mangusto, kkkkkkkkk... é brincadeira mano
[23:24] <asdf999> e falando em gentoo foi minha mão por 4 anos bicho
[23:25] <asdf999> hoje envelheci no trisquel
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> alguem esta a precisar de ajuda
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> :D
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[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-desktop
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[06:01] <hikiko-lpt> hello
[06:05] <didrocks> hey hikiko
[06:53] <hikiko> hi didrocks
[08:10] <Trevinho> Morning folks
[08:14] <didrocks> hey Trevinhooooooooooooooooooooo ;)
[08:18] <Trevinho> Hey didrooooooooocks!
[08:18] <Trevinho> 😀
[08:19] <Trevinho> Pouch I've to bring my scooter to the repair shop :-(
[08:19] <didrocks> what happened?
[08:19] <Trevinho> Ouch*
[08:19] <didrocks> (you are a real italien, with a scooter and such)
[08:20] <Trevinho> It doesn't turn on anymore... Someone stolen my battery
[08:20] <didrocks> I just miss some accent here and I'll cook some pasta right away ;)
[08:20] <didrocks> argh :/
[08:20] <didrocks> is it in a garage?
[08:20] <Trevinho> Plus I've to so the government revision, that it's mandatory every 2 years
[08:21] <darkxst> hey didrocks Trevinho
[08:21] <Trevinho> Nope.... In a closed parking, but there's open walking access
[08:21] <Trevinho> And... Yes living in Florence without a scooter is not feasible
[08:21] <darkxst> why would someone steal a battery !
[08:21] <didrocks> evening darkxst
[08:21] <Trevinho> darkxst: because people is retarded?
[08:22] <darkxst> Trevinho, I reckon, they could have just stolen the whole scooter
[08:23] <darkxst> not that would have helped you any!
[08:23] <Trevinho> darkxst: no, here there's this thing that if you needs a repair component, you just go in the street and steal from others...
[08:23] <Trevinho> Not that everybody does this, but there are people who thinks in that way... Thus I said retarded.
[08:24] <darkxst> Trevinho, the retards here wouldnt know how to the get the part, so they take the lot!
[08:24] <darkxst> didrocks, this is going to be un-evening, merging gdm3 ;(
[08:25] <Trevinho> darkxst: well I didn't want to offend the real retards..
[08:26] <larsu> good morning!
[08:27] <didrocks> darkxst: urgh, another unfun merge
[08:27] <didrocks> morning larsu!
[08:27] <didrocks> darkxst: why do you do that on Friday evening? :p
[08:27] <larsu> morning didrocks! How are you?
[08:27] <didrocks> sounds similar to my rule of "touching perl on Friday evening" ;)
[08:27] <didrocks> larsu: good thanks! yourself?
[08:27] <larsu> didrocks: my rule is "touching perl"
[08:27] <larsu> didrocks: great thanks! Conference was quite fun
[08:28] * larsu will go this afternoon as well
[08:28] <didrocks> larsu: happy that you were able to go there :)
[08:28] <larsu> but get some work done in the morning
[08:28] <larsu> didrocks: I got a badge and everything!
[08:28] <darkxst> didrocks, I'm injured can't do much else
[08:28] <didrocks> larsu: a VIP one? :)
[08:28] <didrocks> darkxst: oh, what happened?
[08:29] <larsu> didrocks: daniel put some gold tape on it and kay some stickers of a cat ... so ... yes?!
[08:29] <didrocks> ;)
[08:29] <darkxst> didrocks, pulled/strained calf muscle, not too sure really, but cant really walk much
[08:30] <larsu> ouch
[08:31] <didrocks> darkxst: yeah, so forced rest…
[08:34] <darkxst> well I probably should have done that rest bit a couple of days ago
[09:00] <willcooke> morning all
[09:00] <didrocks> hey willcooke!
[09:01] <larsu> good morning willcooke!
[09:06] <Laney> HEY!
[09:07] <willcooke> hey Laney
[09:07] <Laney> hey willcooke
[09:07] <Laney> happy friday
[09:07] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:07] <willcooke> \o/
[09:08] <didrocks> morning Laney
[09:09] <larsu> happy Friday Laney
[09:14] <Laney> hey didrocks and larsu!
[09:15] <Laney> feeling good?
[09:15] <larsu> yep - smvc agreed to my fix for that bug :) (with small amend)
[09:15] <larsu> meeting in person is awesome
[09:15] <Laney> nice
[09:15] <Laney> oh he's there?
[09:16] <larsu> yes
[09:16] <Laney> handy
[09:16] <Laney> did you go on das boot yet?
[09:16] <larsu> no that's tonight
[09:16] <larsu> don't know if I'll go yet
[09:16] <larsu> would be weird - I'm not there officially and all
[09:17] <Laney> you are an official systemd contributor!
[09:17] <didrocks> Laney: good! it's Friday! :)
[09:17] <larsu> 1 commit and 1 comment on a pull request ought to be enough to be called that!
[09:19] <Laney> didrocks: I always check the calendar before saying that
[09:19] <Laney> it would be terrible to be wrong in that way
[09:19] <didrocks> ;)
[09:33] <Trevinho> damn, that scooter was fricking heavy...
[09:34] <Laney> did you have to push it all the way to the place?
[09:34] <Trevinho> yes -_-
[09:34] <Trevinho> I've not a truck... Wasn't too long, but still about 700mt
[09:34] <Trevinho> with hills
[09:34] <Laney> think of it as the start of your workout routine
[09:35] <Trevinho> yeah, might good
[09:35] <Trevinho> also, since I was there, i decided to try a coworking place today
[09:35] <Laney> you'll be a huge guy before long
[09:35] <Laney> then nobody will dare to touch your battery again
[09:35] <Trevinho> working in Florence city center is awesome... Unfortunately this palce is not that busy, but still better than being at home in these days
[09:38] <Laney> so should I upload gtk 3.18? :)
[09:39] <Laney> it would work around this g-i bug and let some things build
[09:41] <Trevinho> Laney: what do you want to break this time? :D
[09:42] <Laney> mainly file choosers :P
[09:42] <Trevinho> Laney: ok... Just hope there are not too many deprecations breaking unity related stuff :P
[09:43] <Laney> try a test build?
[09:43] <Laney> ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ppa
[09:44] * Trevinho lazy :P
[09:44] <Laney> you people
[09:44] * Laney does a copy then
[09:45] <Laney> does it even build in PPAs?
[09:45] <Trevinho> No, I'm doing to try that....
[09:45] <Trevinho> ah, well, if you grab the same unity source that was in silo11 it will work
[09:45] * Laney has problems with the testsuite when building locally
[09:46] <Trevinho> let me know, if I should fire my compiler or you leave the ppa builders to do that
[09:46] <Laney> might as well use those
[09:46] <Laney> it's built there already
[09:46] <Trevinho> Laney: there are some "unstable" tests, but they're disabled when in release mdoe
[09:46] <Trevinho> mode
[10:12] <Laney> [Build #8270924] i386 build of gtk+3.0 3.18.2-1ubuntu1~ppa1 in ubuntu xenial RELEASE [~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/ppa]
[10:12] <Laney> yes, because these mails are always really welcome
[10:12] <Laney> OH
[10:12] <Laney> ATTENTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeEEeeeeEEeeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEeeeEEeeeEEeeee
[10:13] <Laney> haha
[10:13] <Laney> control vs. control.in
[10:13] * Laney head -> desk
[10:13] <didrocks> ahah ;)
[10:13] <didrocks> typical trap!
[10:14] <Laney> I was like "I'm sure that was in the merge"
[10:14] <Laney> https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/refresh-mir-3/+merge/276420
[10:14] <Laney> "DOH"
[10:23] <Laney> Trevinho: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/225350066/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.unity_7.4.0+16.04.20151102-0ubuntu1~test1_BUILDING.txt.gz <- test failure
[10:23] <Laney> normal or new?
[10:24] <Trevinho> Laney: those thumbnailer tests have always been flaky...
[10:24] <Trevinho> if you retry probably will go
[10:24] <Trevinho> or maybe in the other archs
[10:25] <Laney> i386 did work
[10:25] <Laney> retrying then
[10:25] <Trevinho> so... yeah, it's unstable
[10:25] <Trevinho> it didn't fail since long time, though
[10:25] <Laney> Package 'nettle', required by 'mircookie', not found
[10:25] <Laney> WWWWWWWHYYYYYY
[10:27] <larsu> mircookie?
[10:28] <Laney> sounds tasty right?
[10:28] <larsu> indeed
[10:29] <Laney> this is weird
[10:32] <larsu> what's happening?
[10:32] <Laney> not much, just found a merge proposal which sounds like it was fixing this
[10:32] <Laney> but actually does something different
[10:32] <Laney> https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/mir/libmircookie-dev-needs-nettle/+merge/276688
[11:28] <hikiko__> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.fixed-tests-wwarnings/+merge/275801 Trevinho do you have access to trigger a rebuild for that?
[11:28] <hikiko__> +could you review it?
[11:28] <Trevinho> sure
[11:28] <hikiko__> it's just 2 lines but I hate these warnings :D
[11:28] <hikiko__> thank you!!
[11:28] <Trevinho> hikiko__: you also have just use the canonical sesame VPN, and you can do that
[11:28] <hikiko__> mmm do I have access by default?
[11:29] <Trevinho> hikiko__: however it will fail till we don't have newest unity on trunk... Which should slowly arrive
[11:29] <Trevinho> Train I love how you manage downstream, but really not that much for upstream stuff :P
[11:29] <Trevinho> didrocks: you're awesome anyway :P
[11:29] <hikiko__> hahaha
[11:30] <hikiko__> should we blame didrocks ? :pp (just kidding)
[11:30] <hikiko__> so, what can we do in this case? wait for the new unity to merge it?
[11:35] <didrocks> what? :)
[11:35] <didrocks> pfff :p
[11:36] <didrocks> forcing you to be a good ubuntu member and care about your distro ;)
[11:37] * hikiko just remembered she is not an ubuntu member :| (I got rejected :p)
[11:53] <Trevinho> didrocks: eheheh, i really do care... In fact as I told you I love the way it's handled... I just don't love to wait too many days to get the trunk updated, but well.. I can deal with it
[11:54] <didrocks> Trevinho: yeah, it's part of the contract (and the way to force people to care, because too much stuff were thrown above the wall, unfortunately)
[11:55] <Trevinho> didrocks: I know... Automerger was too fun not to abuse of it :D
[11:56] <didrocks> Trevinho: heh, I created the daily release/automerger as a first step because we were a team to handle upstream integration
[11:56] <didrocks> (and so, fixing things daily was way easier than throwing 20 branches on the release day that would conflict)
[12:13] <attente> ah geez
[12:14] <Laney> hi attente!
[12:14] <attente> lol, hi Laney
[12:15] <Trevinho> Mh, is there a way to get the prefix of where upstart is installed so to get the /usr/share/upstart/session path dynamically?
[12:15] <Trevinho> tedg: maybe you know that ^
[12:20] <seb128> hey again desktopers ;-)
[12:20] <willcooke> hey seb128
[12:22] <seb128> hey willcooke!
[12:24] <Laney> hey seb128
[12:24] <Laney> good drive?
[12:59] <seb128> Laney, yes, thanks ;-)
[12:59] <seb128> back from lunch now
[12:59] <seb128> Laney, how are things? good friday morning here?
[13:04] <Laney> seb128: yep, just testing gst
[13:06] <Laney> seems to be an x264/x265 transition going on ._.
[13:06] <seb128> transitions fun...
[13:06] <Laney> love the start of the cycle!
[13:09] <qengho> (adjective) morning
[13:09] <seb128> hey qengho
[13:11] <qengho> seb128: have any weekend plans?
[13:11] <seb128> not really yet, mostly relaxing and spending some time with familly and friends
[13:11] <seb128> what about you?
[13:16] <qengho> seb128: Nothing concrete yet. There are two food festivals in town. Epcot Food and Wine, and a Greek Festival. Both call me like the Sirens.
[13:16] <seb128> hehe
[13:17] <jono> hey seb128
[13:17] <jono> are you involved with the Unity 8 LXD container?
[13:17] <seb128> hey jono, how are you? didn't see you arounf for a while :-)
[13:17] <jono> seb128, all good thanks!
[13:17] <seb128> jono, not at all, try bregma or ChrisTownsend
[13:18] <seb128> or maybe tedg
[13:18] <jono> excited to join GitHub in a few weeks :-)
[13:18] <jono> ahhh cool, thanks, seb128
[13:18] <seb128> I saw, congrats ;-)
[13:18] <seb128> yw!
[13:18] <jono> :-)
[13:18] <willcooke> jono !!!
[13:18] <jono> how are you doing?
[13:18] <willcooke> alright dude
[13:18] <jono> hey willcooke :-)
[13:18] <seb128> aren't you supposed to be on holidays in India or something?
[13:18] <jono> hows it going, pal?
[13:18] <willcooke> jono, no bad!
[13:18] <ChrisTownsend> jono: Hey, I work on the Unity 8 LXC container.
[13:18] <jono> seb128, at a conference, so not really a holiday :-)
[13:19] <jono> ChrisTownsend, aha!
[13:19] <seb128> oh, ok
[13:19] <jono> I set up the container but it didn't seem to start from LightDM
[13:19] * willcooke off to a meeting with the big boss.
[13:19] <jono> I wanted to check if there were any known issues around it
[13:19] <seb128> willcooke, good luck!
[13:19] <willcooke> jono, would be good to catch up once you're back at work
[13:19] <jono> willcooke, good luck!
[13:19] <jono> willcooke, for sure
[13:19] <ChrisTownsend> jono: Are you using unity8-lxc from the archive?
[13:19] <jono> willcooke, let me know when you are free
[13:19] <ChrisTownsend> jono: And on Wily?
[13:20] <jono> ChrisTownsend, I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC
[13:20] <jono> yep, Wily
[13:21] <ChrisTownsend> jono: Then I assume you used the recommended installation path.
[13:21] <jono> ChrisTownsend, what do you mean?
[13:22] <ChrisTownsend> jono: Those instructions have either "Recommended installation path" or "Alternative installation for Utopic and later Ubuntu releases". Let's just be sure. Could you give the output of 'apt-cache policy unity8-lxc'?
[13:23] <jono> ChrisTownsend, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13123920/
[13:23] <ChrisTownsend> jono: I'll just say the unity8-lxc package from the wily archive is totally busted.
[13:23] * ChrisTownsend looks
[13:23] <jono> ahhh
[13:23] <jono> that is probably why
[13:24] <ChrisTownsend> jono: No, you're using the version from the PPA that *should* be fixed.
[13:24] <jono> ahhh
[13:24] <jono> it seems to just hang from LightDM
[13:25] <ChrisTownsend> jono: Ok, next, could you give me "/var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log.
[13:26] <jono> ChrisTownsend, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13123941/
[13:26] <jono> damn, I have to run
[13:26] <jono> will try to get back online in a bit
[13:26] <jono> thanks, pal
[13:26] <ChrisTownsend> jono: Ok, no problem.
[13:36] <tedg> Trevinho: I'm not sure of one, but why do you need that?
[13:37] <Trevinho> tedg: I want to make the file to generated by makefile with proper binary path (as it's in libexec), but i still want the upstart job to be installed in a place that is not PREFIX, but that its' UPSTART_PREFIX
[13:38] <tedg> Trevinho: So usually I use DATADIR/upstart/sessions
[13:38] <Trevinho> tedg: yeah, that's true, but if you install in staging, then.... But it has still pros...
[13:39] <tedg> Trevinho: I think you're the last person to mention Upstart on IRC, which means, you're the maintainer! You should fix this :-)
[13:47] <willcooke> Anyone know if Chris Coulson is around today?
[13:48] <seb128> willcooke, he's in Austin I think
[13:48] <seb128> unsure when he flights back
[13:48] <willcooke> ahhh
[13:48] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[13:50] <seb128> yw
[13:50] <seb128> tkamppeter, nice job figuring out the cups filter issue on the phone!
[13:50] <seb128> willcooke, ^ I don't know if you saw that Till figured that out, it was a packaging problem with cups and an exec helper missing
[13:50] <willcooke> yeah read the bugs reports thanks tkamppeter seb128
[13:56] <tkamppeter> willcooke, seb128: I found this out by having a look into the source code of CUPS, looking for how CUPS calls sub-processes, and then I discovered that they recently have added this cups-exec wrapper, probably it was introduced after my initial splitting of the CUPS binary packages for the phone.
[14:01] <willcooke> tkamppeter, good work! Thanks
[14:05] <desrt> good morning peeps
[14:06] <didrocks> hey desrt!
[14:06] <seb128> hey desrt
[14:07] <seb128> larsu, did you look at the notify osd icon issue?
[14:07] <desrt> good morning, french people
[14:07] <didrocks> seb128: seems we are stamped :p
[14:08] <seb128> lol
[14:08] <seb128> Laney, could you have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1512435 to see if you think the approach is fine? that should let us move g-c-c to universe
[14:26] <mterry> kenvandine, hey man, got time to review a deja-dup branch? (!)
[14:27] <mterry> kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/deja-dup/no-python2/+merge/276875
[14:30] <Sweet5hark> http://whatthecommit.com/ <- since its Friday, this is a worthy target for your F5s
[14:37] <qengho> mterry: I don't know much, but is it normal to include a vapi file? Why not generate it at build time?
[14:39] <mterry> qengho, maybe that's just a holdover from early days of vala when vapis would change out from under you and thus I value stability over cleverness :)
[14:39] <mterry> qengho, I got burned a lot early on and it was a formative experience :)
[14:40] <qengho> mterry: scar tissue isn't very flexible.
[14:42] <Laney> seb128: looks good
[14:43] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:44] * Laney cries, ffmpeg/armhf fails to build
[14:49] <willcooke> :(
[14:49] <Laney> correct response
[14:51] <seb128> binutils' fault? ;-)
[14:51] <Laney> that would be great/crap
[14:51] * Laney porter boxes the hell out of it
[14:52] <Laney> unrelated, /me looks for a pitti ;-)
[15:01] <pitti> Laney: sorry, no more pittis available
[15:02] <Laney> this is an OUTRAGE
[15:02] <Laney> THANKS OBAMA
[15:02] <pitti> !?!?! I thought you bowed to the Queen
[15:02] <pitti> who talked to you, ubot5 ?
[15:02] <Laney> You're in his land now, so I blame him :P
[15:02] <Laney> how's it going?
[15:02] <pitti> Laney: I'm not, I'm in Texas
[15:03] <Laney> ouch :)
[15:11] <Laney> pitti: Wondering if you know about debci missing some runs sometimes?
[15:11] <Laney> e.g. the regressions for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#glib2.0
[15:11] <pitti> Laney: uh no, that's news to me
[15:11] <Laney> I url-hacked the result.tar and log.gz for some of them
[15:12] <Laney> pitti: for example http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libm/libmediaart/xenial/armhf/ misses https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/armhf/libm/libmediaart/20151105_193117@/result.tar
[15:12] <pitti> https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial?prefix=xenial/armhf/libg/libgnatcoll&format=plain
[15:13] <pitti> indeed, that's missing the 1105 run
[15:13] <pitti> Laney: so no, that's completely news to me
[15:14] <pitti> debci/data/autopkgtest/xenial/armhf/libg/libgnatcoll/20151105_195025@/ does exist
[15:16] <pitti> Laney: did you already did a mass-retry? I didn't this morning
[15:16] <pitti> (and might be a nice exercise for you; queues are empty, so have at them)
[15:16] <Laney> not today
[15:16] <pitti> Laney: there are some tmpfails apparently (your log)
[15:16] <Laney> I wanted to leave glib in this state in case it was useful for you
[15:16] <Laney> indeed
[15:16] <pitti> Laney: well, the failed runs won't go away from swift, so debugging that on the debci instance is still possible
[15:17] <Laney> I saw a few tmpfails like this
failure: timed out waiting for container adt-virt-lxc-njbcip to start; last runlevel "unknown "
[15:18] <pitti> right, me too; I found that yesterday and discussed with hallyn
[15:18] <pitti> it's easily reproduced locally, one can't reboot containers ATM, they'll fail very early on with some "blabla can't get cgroup bla"
[15:18] <pitti> bug 1497420
[15:19] <pitti> allegedly https://github.com/lxc/lxc/commit/f348e47c93568b4f0c371cf5df1c98d4e816a86c fixes this (that's the remaining open part), but haven't tested this yet
[15:22] <Laney> pitti: are these tests going to work then?
[15:23] <pitti> Laney: retrying the armhf ones makes little sense right now, but there might be some x86/ppc ones?
[15:23] <pitti> Laney: still a bit confusing; clearly most armhf tests still work, so this apparenlty happens only with some reboots or tests which reboot explicitly or so
[15:25] <pitti> $ sudo lxc-start -n adt-xenial -F
[15:25] <pitti> log in, sudo reboot -> bang
[15:25] <pitti> if anyone wants to check if the above patch helps, please do
[15:25] <Laney> pitti: yeah, just not the ones which block glib :) (okay, udisks2 does on i386)
[15:25] <Laney> that's another missing result
[15:25] <Laney> and not a tmpfail
[15:26] <Laney> I can try to build an lxc with that
[15:28] <Laney> debci-xenial-amd64 36
[15:28] <Laney> debci-xenial-armhf 0
[15:28] <Laney> debci-xenial-i386 33
[15:28] <Laney> debci-xenial-ppc64el 30
[15:28] <Laney> om nom nom
[15:31] <pitti> Laney: ☺
[15:32] <pitti> Laney: you know how to handle tmpfails? (I just recently documented that)
[15:32] <Laney> rm pending.txt?
[15:32] <pitti> right
[15:49] <Laney> pitti: hmm, I can't make sudo reboot go bang
[15:49] <Laney> I just started adt-xenial on a cyclops host and rebooted
[15:49] <Laney> comes back up okay
[15:50] <pitti> ah, I tried that on xenial amd64 host
[15:52] <pitti> Laney: so that at least explains why not all of the test go boom
[15:53] <pitti> Laney: perhaps something special then, like a test pulls in cgproxy or starts a specific service which changes cgroups or whatnot
[15:56] <Laney> pitti: each reboot is clean, right?
[15:56] <Laney> https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/armhf/libm/libmediaart/20151105_193117@/log.gz
[15:56] <Laney> the last run doesn't do much
[15:57] <Trevinho> uff, but isn't proposed enabled in s-jenkins?!
[16:03] <pitti> Laney: right, but "unknown" essentially means "failed to boot", and there's a high chance that it's the bug above
[16:03] <Laney> pitti: Yeah, just hard to verify
[16:03] <Laney> I could just install this lxc deb on all the hosts...
[16:03] <pitti> Laney: oh, you mean you ran that test with the patch applied?
[16:03] <Laney> no
[16:03] <Laney> I was making sure I could reproduce the bug first
[16:03] <pitti> Laney: sure, we coudl install it with the patch and re-run the failing tests and see what happens
[16:03] <Laney> I could try to run a real autopkgtest
[16:03] <pitti> yeah, one of the failing ones
[16:03] * Laney isn't entirely sure how to correctly run this on one of the hosts though
[16:04] <pitti> autopkgtest/run-from-checkout -s postgresql-9.4 --- lxc -es adt-xenial
[16:04] <pitti> something like that
[16:04] <pitti> ah, no -es, just -s
[16:04] <pitti> -e aka --ephemeral doesn't support reboot
[16:04] <Laney> nice, thanks
[16:04] <pitti> Laney: and perhaps no shell and debugging, so
[16:05] <pitti> autopkgtest/run-from-checkout -d libmediaart --- lxc -sd adt-xenial
[16:05] <Laney> yup, it is running
[16:05] <Laney> probably could have done this in screen :)
[16:15] <Laney> ah man, now this passed
[16:23] <Laney> pitti: suspicious> "Nov 5 19:08 running.html"
[16:24] <Laney> Nov 5 19:30 /run/lock/debci-update.lock
[16:27] * seb128 finds a glib bug
[16:30] <pitti> Laney: indeed!
[16:30] * pitti runs the cron job manually
[16:32] <pitti> Laney: oh, that's fine -- debci got rebooted yesterday by IS, so that's just the creation date I figure
[16:33] <pitti> I just restarted the status-collector, so that running.html will continue to work
[16:34] <Laney> For the lock file yeah
[16:35] <Laney> You can see that News is being updated but the package pages aren't
[16:38] <RAOF> pitti: Bah! git has messed up the permissions on alioth. Could you kindly poke the ownership or acl so that I can actually push to it?
[16:38] <RAOF> I've got the 1.2.12 release ready locally, with lots of bugfixes.
[16:38] <RAOF> Hm. I should probably mention that the relevant repository is colord :)
[16:40] <pitti> RAOF: erk, group "Debian"?
[16:40] <pitti> I suppose that shold all be scm_collab_maint
[16:40] <RAOF> Is Debian not just all DDs?
[16:40] <pitti> RAOF: hm, seems I can't do that
[16:41] * RAOF should probably dust off his DD application sometime.
[16:41] <pitti> $ LANG= chgrp scm_collab-maint colord.git/
[16:41] <pitti> chgrp: changing group of `colord.git/': Operation not permitted
[16:41] <RAOF> Urgh.
[16:41] <RAOF> New plan: feel like pulling from github? :)
[16:42] <RAOF> github.com/raof/colord
[16:42] <pitti> so I seem to own the colord.git dir for some reason, but can't change it
[16:42] <pitti> RAOF: I could also move it away, create a new one, and you re-push?
[16:43] <RAOF> Yeah, could do that.
[16:44] <pitti> RAOF: try pushing now
[16:44] <pitti> RAOF: what I did was mv colord.git colord.git-brokenperms; cp -r colord.git-brokenperms colord.git
[16:44] <pitti> RAOF: now everything has the right group
[16:44] <RAOF> remote: fatal: Unable to create temporary file '/srv/git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/colord.git/./objects/pack/tmp_pack_XXXXXX': Permission denied
[16:44] <RAOF> No dice.
[16:44] <pitti> oh, still needs group writable, hang on
[16:45] <pitti> RAOF: insert coin, try it again
[16:45] <RAOF> Ding!
[16:45] <pitti> (changed umask to 002)
[16:45] <RAOF> Kindly run “gbp dch --full debian” to generate the changelog, which it obviously doesn't have at the moment.
[16:46] <pitti> err, on git.d.o? gbp?
[16:46] <RAOF> Once you've pulled it.
[16:46] <RAOF> Or I can generate and commit a changelog, if you want.
[16:47] <pitti> RAOF: oh, pull locally?
[16:47] <pitti> sorry, no idea what you mean
[16:47] <pitti> RAOF: but I literally copied everything from the old .git, so what did get lost now?
[16:47] <RAOF> I presume you'll pull locally, build, and then upload?
[16:47] <Laney> He's asking for sponsorship. :P
[16:47] <RAOF> Oh, nothing got lost.
[16:47] <pitti> oh!
[16:47] <pitti> sorry, -ECONTEXT :)
[16:48] * Laney blinks at running.html
[16:48] <RAOF> Ah. Whereas *my* context was ‘how can I push 1.2.12 to git.debian.org so that pitti can upload it for me ☺’
[16:49] <pitti> RAOF: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13125936/,and 1ubuntu1 -> -2?
[16:49] <pitti> and drop the [Martin Pitt]?
[16:49] <RAOF> Hm, no. Odd.
[16:50] <RAOF> Why doesn't yours pick up that it's a new upstream version?
[16:50] <pitti> RAOF: perhaps do all the necessary changes and I'll just do the dch -rm?
[16:50] <RAOF> Yup. Pushed a changelog; you merely need to remove UNRELEASED :)
[16:51] <RAOF> Bah! That's why - I didn't git push --tags, so gbp dch didn't know about the new upstream.
[16:51] <pitti> RAOF: unstable? or exp?
[16:51] <RAOF> Unstable.
[16:52] <pitti> RAOF: ok, building
[16:52] <pitti> E: colord changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file unstable
[16:52] <pitti> oh come on lintian, don't be so mean
[16:52] <pitti> Debian is a fine distro
[16:53] <seb128> haha
[16:53] <sarnold> hehe :)
[16:53] <seb128> which reminds me
[16:53] <seb128> why isn't dch giving me "wily" and not "xenial"
[16:53] <RAOF> It'll also complain about not calling ldconf, because we're behind.
[16:53] * seb128 looks at that
[16:55] <pitti> RAOF: *mumble* thousand build deps *mumble* slow hotel network *mumble*
[16:55] <attente> bbl, dentist appointment
[16:57] <pitti> Laney: debci is missing other results too; I wonder if the reboot corrupted something
[16:57] <pitti> Laney: I'll jst delete all xenial results and re-run *shrug*
[16:57] <Laney> pitti: I think it's basically not updating
[16:57] <Laney> or, the news pane is but the package pages not
[16:58] <Laney> and the listener appears to be busted too?
[16:58] <pitti> how so?
[16:58] <Laney> running still not updating
[16:58] <pitti> it'll only work for newly started tests
[16:59] <Laney> I retried some after you started the collector again
[17:02] <pitti> RAOF: uploaded
[17:02] <RAOF> pitti: Woot! Thank you.
[17:04] <RAOF> And now to merge it!
[17:05] <pitti> RAOF: oh, we have a delta there?
[17:05] <RAOF> Argyll isn't in main.
[17:06] <RAOF> And I have no particular desire to do a MIR for it. (It's got all the awkwardness, including its own crazy buildsystem)
[17:06] <RAOF> And is orphaned in Debian, and...
[17:06] * RAOF may have to pick it up in Debian...
[17:14] <pitti> Laney: so the failed gliby tests work now?
[17:16] <Laney> pitti: At least some https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/armhf/libm/libmediaart/20151106_171233@/log.gz
[17:16] <Laney> hard to have a global view until britney runs again
[17:19] * Laney hears fireworks quite close
[17:20] <willcooke> This year has been pretty quiet round here. Normally I hear them from about the start of October
[17:20] <willcooke> last night we had a few, but I don't think as many as normal
[17:20] <willcooke> Cubs bonfire tomorrow :)
[17:21] <Laney> bah I think it's out of view
[17:21] <Laney> nice
[17:23] <Laney> oh, I can see them!
[17:23] <Laney> it's not exactly a flowing display...
[17:24] <seb128> what are the fireworks for?
[17:24] <Laney> guy fawkes night yesterday
[17:24] <didrocks> time for week-end! see you on Monday guys :-)
[17:25] <didrocks> and enjoy hearing fireworks ;)
[17:25] <Laney> bye did NOPE ALREADY GONE
[17:26] <RAOF> Can haz a linitan that doesn't needlessly complain about postinst-must-call-ldconfig? :)
[17:33] <pitti> we watched V for Vendetta last night
[17:33] <pitti> was great!
[17:33] <pitti> and there were lots of concerts
[17:34] <mhall119> tedg: ping
[17:35] <tedg> Howdy mhall119
[17:36] <mhall119> tedg: hey, I'm working on the UbuCon schedule for Orlando, can you do an hour talk at 10am?
[17:36] <tedg> mhall119: Sure, I fly in the night before.
[17:37] <mhall119> tedg: awesome, thanks
[17:37] <tedg> mhall119: I'm flexible
[17:37] * mhall119 looks forward to hanging out with tedg again
[17:37] <tedg> Hah, yeah, should be good. Sad that I can't stay longer.
[17:38] <tedg> We'll always have Ubucon ;-)
[17:40] <mhall119> yes, new memories and embarrassing stories to tell :)
[18:14] * Trevinho leaves for the WE
[18:15] <Laney> see you Trevinho
[18:15] * Laney is doing One More Build
[18:16] <willcooke> going too, see y'all
[18:18] <Laney> woot
[18:19] <Laney> but srsly
[18:22] <Laney> looks like poppler and ocaml x265 and x264 and soundtouch are entangled
[18:22] <Laney> brutalism
[18:22] <Laney> going to be a fun week fixing that! :)
[18:22] <Laney> byeeeee
[18:25] <seb128> Trevinho, have a good w.e
[18:25] <seb128> Laney, :-(
[18:25] <seb128> Laney, did we get an handle on the webkit situation?
[19:08] <Trevinho> seb128: you too!
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[01:07] <Spass> hello
[01:10] <knome> hello
[01:10] <Spass> will GNOME Software app be default in Xubuntu 16.04?
[01:11] <knome> no idea
[01:11] <knome> depends how well it seems to work, how integrated it will be, how many known bugs there are...
[01:12] <Unit193> Not unlikely though.
[01:12] <knome> no, but at this point, there is no best guess whether it will be default or not
[01:13] <Spass> I hope Xubuntu dev team will consider Synaptic to be default GUI software management
[01:13] <Unit193> You mean just because it's not even in the repo means we can't have a solid answer, knome? :'(
[01:13] <Unit193> :P
[01:13] <knome> synaptic isn't exactly the most user-friendliest GUI, that's why USC has been picked over it before
[01:14] <knome> or at least it's not the perfect GUI for the regular user
[01:14] <Unit193> Well, and the other did paid apps from Canonical and the like, iirc.
[01:15] <knome> don't know how many xubuntu users used that feature, but that too
[01:15] <knome> advanced users tend to want to use apt-get anyway
[01:16] <knome> but i guess it can be said that synaptic will be at least "considered"
[01:17] <knome> have fun figuring out the subtones and interpretations you can make of that :P
[01:17] <knome> Spass, did the above absurd discussion answer your question at all?
[01:18] <Spass> you're right, probably availability of paid apps will be a reason why we will see Gnome Software in Xubuntu 16.04
[01:19] <Spass> I'm just little councerned about all these "newer" gnome apps in Xubuntu, they just don't seem to fit to Xubuntu/Xfce as a whole
[01:20] <Unit193> Spass: I'll trow a fit if it drags in too many deps, don't worry. :P
[01:20] <Unit193> As it is, not *too* bad.
[01:20] <Unit193> http://paste.debian.net/323597/ on Debian "Xubuntu"
[01:20] <knome> Spass, feel free to suggest reasonable alternatives that fit in better...
[01:21] <knome> Unit193, also how much can we drop for dropping USC
[01:21] <knome> and how heavy are the other options
[01:21] <Unit193> Synaptic was the only one I could think of too..
[01:21] <Unit193> knome: What other options?
[01:21] <knome> Unit193, wasn't there a lubuntu software center or something like that? :P
[01:22] <Spass> old news i suppose http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/11/the-ubuntu-software-centre-is-being-replace-in-16-04-lts
[01:22] <Unit193> knome: I think we're rejecting that too.
[01:23] <knome> Spass, that covers the ubuntu desktop only
[01:24] <Spass> yes, but that means USC is dead in my opinion
[01:25] <Unit193> Yes.
[01:25] <Spass> and there will be no reason to add it to 16.04 in any Ubuntu flavour
[01:25] <knome> except that it's still what it is, etc...
[01:26] <knome> and who says nobody picks up maintaining it?
[01:26] <Unit193> Is there a CLA attached to it?
[01:26] <Unit193> And, I'd bet against it, fwiw.
[01:26] <knome> no idea
[01:26] * knome collects the bets
[01:27] <knome> note: a 95% commission is taken from the bets
[01:27] <knome> anybody else?
[01:32] <Unit193> moun!
[01:33] * drc bets 10 coprolites against...want your commission now?
[01:33] <knome> bets only in cookies.
[01:35] <drc> what's the exchange rate (chocolate chip <> Oreos)?
[01:35] <knome> everything counts as one.
[01:35] <knome> except anything with coconut
[01:35] <Spass> quiz time, one of these apps don't fit in http://wstaw.org/m/2015/11/06/quiz.png
[01:35] <knome> they count as zero
[01:36] <knome> Spass, you can hide CSD
[01:38] <Spass> that will be nice! I did't know that, in that case I must find out how
[01:38] <Spass> thanks
[01:38] <knome> ask Unit193 and find out
[01:38] <Spass> gtk3-nocsd?
[02:18] <Unit193> Spass: Depends on the application, but sometimes all you can do is http://mentors.debian.net/package/gtk3-nocsd
[02:21] <Unit193> CSDs are aweful. Seems like GNOME's attempt at being Windows (along with systemd and dbus.) :P
[02:31] <Spass> yes CSDs are really out of place in Xubuntu, it breaks an immersion of Xubuntu being a "fully ready product"
[02:33] <Spass> I manage to use gtk3-nocsd globally (~/.profile) but I'm struggling to make it work with selected apps only
[02:33] <Spass> but I'm on the right track I think, big thanks for the hint
[02:37] <Spass> I'm basing on this HowTo http://www.webupd8.org/2014/08/how-to-disable-gtk3-client-side.html
[02:47] <Unit193> I'd go with the package, much higher quality. :P
[02:58] <Spass> well, seems like it won't work with my gtk+ 3.16.7 on 15.10
[02:59] <Spass> but in my opinion something like gtk3-nocsd should be considered as a main package for the new release of Xubuntu ;)
[03:01] <Unit193> No, it's a bit of a hack, I surely wouldn't.
[03:04] <Spass> good hack can easily become a feature, but you're right, in this form is too hardcore to be "main"
[03:07] <Spass> a good and elegant way to getting rid of CSD is a good discussion topic for the new Xubuntu releases, I think
[03:26] <Unit193> We can't realistically patch it out of all the applications that use it, thankfully Ubuntu has somewhat in the past, but not sure that'll continue. At least xfwm handles headerbars well now.
[05:00] <micahg> flocculant: thanks
[10:28] <ochosi> Spass__ Actually no, we shouldn't consider such a hack for inclusion and as Unit193 correctly inferred, we cannot patch the headerbars out. from what i read in #u-desktop they're still undecided on the subject but i guess slowly leaning towards CSD
[10:29] <Unit193> Which is quiiiite the bummer.
[10:40] <knome> ochosi, wasn't that possible earlier?
[10:58] <Spass__> too much gnome3 in xubuntu and that makes me really sad
[11:08] <Spass__> us we all should know, gnome3 is an unholy mess ;)
[11:08] <akxwi_dave> Morning all
[11:30] <ali1234> Spass__: what software do you use that has header bars?
[11:30] <ali1234> the only thing i can find is the calculator
[11:32] <Spass__> fortunately not too many - catfish, calculator, menulibre, some games...
[11:33] <Spass__> but with every release i see more
[11:33] <ali1234> you're using 15.10?
[11:33] <Spass__> yes
[11:33] <Unit193> catfish and menulibre are Xubuntu specific.
[11:33] <ali1234> neither of them have headerbars on 15.04
[11:35] <ali1234> galculator is a good replacement for calculator
[11:37] <Spass__> yes, i use galculator now, but i dislike that it doesn't show operations (i mean like "6+32-6")
[11:38] <Spass__> in 15.10 http://wstaw.org/m/2015/11/06/deco.png
[11:42] <Spass__> and more "gnome3 look" apps to come in 16.04 i'm afraid
[12:12] <knome> Spass__, well you know, complaining isn't going to fix the issue, nor blaming gnome3 for it
[12:17] <Spass__> i know, i'm just trying to be open with my concerns as an user, i know i can't fix it, but maybe the issue will be discussed in wider "more powerful" group
[12:18] <knome> be assured, we've heard your concern
[12:18] <knome> and this has been discussed even before you expressed your personal concern
[12:21] <knome> i guess i should explain myself more...
[12:21] <knome> i'm happy that users get involved - thanks for that
[12:22] <knome> but i would be more happy if they could bring something new to the discussion too :)
[12:22] <knome> or propose a solution they would like
[12:22] <knome> with this issue, gnome3 is like it is, and applications do what they do, and we only have so much things we can do to avoid them
[12:23] <knome> should we only use applications that doesn't use CSD?
[12:23] <knome> how long is that possible?
[12:23] <knome> are the applications that are not using CSD maintained?
[12:23] <knome> if not, is it sensible to use them?
[12:24] <knome> if we have N applications that use CSD, does it make a big difference to add one more?
[12:24] <Spass__> well.. the only solution i can see for the newer releases, assuming that CSD will be a thing in xubuntu is that you could use XFWM theme imitating that look as default
[12:24] <ali1234> i think we should seriously consider galculator, it's well maintained and default in ubuntu mate and lubuntu
[12:25] <knome> Spass__, we are using greybird which is pretty close
[12:25] <Spass__> like "Greybird-accessibility" but without button borders
[12:25] <knome> ali1234, but that's a solution just for one of the applications...
[12:26] <ali1234> there can't be a single solution for all applications
[12:26] <knome> of course not
[12:26] <knome> but sure, we can definitely consider galculator
[12:27] <knome> though if it doesn't show the calculations as Spass__ said, then i would personally still prefer gnome-calculator
[12:30] <ali1234> t does have a mode where it shows the calculation actually
[12:30] <knome> sounds good
[12:31] <ali1234> calculator->notation mode->formula entry
[12:31] <ali1234> you probably won't like it though, it's a little bit weird
[12:32] <knome> right...
[12:34] <ali1234> catfish and menulibre having headerbars might be a bug
[12:35] <knome> aha?
[12:35] <ali1234> well they're both maintained by xubuntu developers
[12:36] <ali1234> so it's not like we'd have to fork them to remove the headerbars
[12:38] <ali1234> there's a commit on catfish that says "optional CSD"
[12:38] <ali1234> keyword "optional"
[12:38] <knome> i believe it's a build-time option
[12:39] <ali1234> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/catfish-search/trunk/revision/384#catfish_lib/CatfishSettings.py
[12:39] <knome> i'm still wondering where the bug is :)
[12:39] <ali1234> that might not have made it into 15.10
[12:39] <ali1234> by bug i simply mean it was unintentional/unavoidable, not actually a code typo or something
[12:40] <knome> not at all
[12:40] <Spass__> ok, i made this simple mod http://wstaw.org/m/2015/11/06/3_2.png
[12:41] <ali1234> knome: are you saying that the headerbars were a specific design decision for xubuntu?
[12:41] <Spass__> if we want uniformity with CSD apps, the only way for now is matching XFWM theme
[12:42] <knome> ali1234, i'm saying that the CSD for them didn't appear accidentally
[12:43] <ali1234> okay, and will they be turned off in 16.04, given that that is an option?
[12:43] <knome> Spass__, using the huge titlebar without any extra functionality over a smaller one seems silly to me
[12:43] <Spass__> that makes window decorations somewhat huge, but it can be slimmer but with that style (slight gradient, line in the bottom, buttons)
[12:44] <knome> also, is a complete uniformity really needed?
[12:44] <Spass__> yes it is silly, but it is one way to go
[12:44] <knome> there will always be apps that look a bit different
[12:45] <Spass__> the less such applications, the better for end user experience with the system IMHO
[12:45] <knome> i think that's debatable
[12:45] <Spass__> everything is
[12:45] <Spass__> and that is ok
[12:45] <knome> if 9/10 apps are uniform, a then ununiform application appears, wouldn't that be weirder?
[12:45] <knome> ultimately we can't control what apps the user installs
[12:46] <knome> i don't think the CSD/regular xfwm there are too far apart even now
[12:48] <knome> anwyay, got to go
[12:48] <knome> bbl
[12:51] <Spass__> well, if "not too far apart" is satisfying for you, then further discussion on my part does not seem to make sense
[12:53] <Spass__> http://www.funnymemes.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/close-enough.jpeg
[12:54] <ali1234> at the end of the day we can't fix everything
[12:55] <Spass__> yes we can! :D
[12:56] <flocculant> no we can't
[12:56] <ali1234> one day i am going to snap and just write my own desktop from scratch
[12:57] <Spass__> ehh... back to my negative-self
[14:57] <krytarik> knome, slickyma1ter, Unit193: Heh, just noticed I forgot to 'add' some new/moved files in my modified docs branch :P - http://paste.openstack.org/show/Hg0LAylqKGtgoYCrHkwV/
[16:16] <slickymasterWork> knome, krytarik, flocculant
[16:17] <slickymasterWork> I saw your pings re -docs. Haven't answer them because my father underwent a surgery and in the postoperative contracted a bacterial infection
[16:17] <slickymasterWork> so things are a bit confused
[16:18] <slickymasterWork> I'll try to catch up during this weekend
[16:55] <krytarik> knome, slickywork: To summarize the current changes (just added it to the changelog too): http://paste.openstack.org/show/d81SHEeesrBnKJoPsFpx/
[17:09] <bluesabre> for the xfce, xubuntu, csd comments... xfce will not always look like xfce does now
[17:09] <bluesabre> at some point, we make design decisions folks don't agree on, but are better in the long run (http://xwinman.org/screenshots/xfce-default.jpg)
[17:10] <drc> woah! flashback :)
[17:11] * bluesabre used CDE as recently as 2014
[17:11] <bluesabre> old old systems at work :D
[17:12] * drc blames Steve Jobs (but not the Great and Powerful Wo) :)
[17:12] <drc> s/Wo/Woz
[17:13] <bluesabre> but yeah, if we try to lock in to a certain design, xubuntu will surely fall behind in a short amount of time. Instead we should focus on what works best and what our team, developers, and users are looking for, and not be afraid of change. :)
[17:13] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[18:18] <bart> Hi there :)
[18:19] <Guest30778> I tried installing 15.10 today, but I didn't get the change because of an internal error.
[18:20] <Guest30778> http://imgur.com/GXRgTGq
[18:20] <Guest30778> A problem with ubiquity...? Is this a known problem?
[18:22] <Guest30778> 2.5 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo / 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM / NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT 512 MB
[18:29] <Guest30778> How do I report this as a bug?
[18:29] <flocculant> Guest30778: this isn't a support channel exactly - #xubuntu is
[18:29] <flocculant> that said - you can report it by pressing continue
[18:29] <flocculant> as far as whether it's a known issue - I don't know about that - not seen it
[18:30] <Guest30778> I see! Thank you.
[18:30] <flocculant> I would suggest checking the download, then reburn it to whatever you used
[18:32] <krytarik> Guest30778: Other than that, looks like LP bug 1495017, but it was supposedly fixed before release.
[18:33] <flocculant> yea - that got fixed - I didn't see it after that
[18:34] <Guest30778> Here is a traceback: http://imgur.com/wHI1Yut
[18:34] <Guest30778> Checking md5 of download
[18:35] <flocculant> Guest30778: even if we work out what's wrong - we can't fix it
[18:35] <Guest30778> Yeah, it matches. Also tried re-burning.
[18:35] <Guest30778> OK!
[18:49] <Guest30778> Filed a bug report 1513929
[18:49] <Guest30778> Thanks!
[19:20] <ochosi> bluesabre: wow, cde? do you work in a computer archive? :D
[19:35] <flocculant> evening ochosi
[21:05] <ochosi> evening flocculant
[21:05] <ochosi> sorry, was afk again
[21:10] <flocculant> :)
[21:54] <knome> slickyma1ter, all the best for your dad
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-nl
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[09:17] <Postbushd> HAllo Mijn update geeft aan 563 MB nodig. betreft xubuntu 4.14. Ik krijg met het volgende commando niet verwijderd.
[09:17] <Postbushd> Heeft iemand suggesties hoe ikw el kan updaten door schoon schipe te maken.
[09:18] <Postbushd> commando is : sudo apt-get remove --purge $(dpkg -l 'linux-image-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d')
[09:18] <Postbushd> .ooit gekregen via Lordievader en Oerheks. Werkte tot op heden altijd perfect
[09:18] <lordievader> Postbushd: Je probeerd oude kernels te verwijderen?
[09:19] <Postbushd> yep
[09:19] <lordievader> Postbushd: sudo apt-get autoremove doet het niet voor jou?
[09:19] <Postbushd> inderdaad
[09:21] <lordievader> Postbushd: Wat is de output van 'dpkg -l|grep linux-'?
[09:21] <Postbushd> hij geeft op 0 paketten te verwijderen etc. Overigens alles werkt wel hoor.
[09:23] <Postbushd> dpkg -l|grep linux- levert een heel lang verhaal op. Ik weet niet meer hoe ik die voor jouzichtbaar kan maken.
[09:24] <lordievader> Postbushd: Kopieer het naar http://paste.kde.org/ o.i.d.
[09:24] <Postbushd> ga ik proberen.
[09:26] <Postbushd> ik heb het erin gezet. Nu verzenden of zoiets ??
[09:27] <lordievader> Uploaden en de url naar de paste hier plakken.
[09:30] <Postbushd> sorry ik heb ruzie met inloggen lukt me niet.
[09:30] <Postbushd> Ik meld me nog
[09:30] <lordievader> Je hoeft niet in te loggen om van paste.kde gebruik te maken.
[09:34] <Postbushd> https://paste.kde.org/
[09:34] <Postbushd> is dit oke ??
[09:35] <Postbushd> #ph0haj1ns Show paste
[09:37] <Postbushd> #pt6ggvrry waarschijnlijk is dit de goede. Sorry maar ik moet ff uitzoeken hoe
[09:38] <lordievader> Postbushd: Ik heb hem ;)
[09:38] <Postbushd> mooi
[09:39] <lordievader> Postbushd: Je hebt maar 1 kernel geinstalleerd, maar wel meerdere header packages.
[09:40] <Postbushd> zegt me niets . Hoe krijg ik e.a. weer schoon voor verdere update ?
[09:40] <Postbushd> het systeem meldde dat er onvoldoende ruimte is /was
[09:41] <Postbushd> voor een nieuwe update uiteaard.
[09:41] <lordievader> Postbushd: Het is niet getest, kijk ook vooral of je huidige kernel er niet bij zit: dpkg -l|grep linux-headers|awk '{print $2}'|grep -v $(uname -r)|xargs echo apt-get remove -y
[09:42] <lordievader> Als het klopt kun je 'echo' door 'sudo' vervangen.
[09:42] <Postbushd> gaan we proberen
[09:43] <Postbushd> zo te zien is hij aan het poetsen, ik meld me nog. Dank !
[09:52] <Postbushd> Alles wordt flink geshuffeld. Mocht ik moeten herstarten, meld ik me later. Maar zo te zien als leek gaat dit lonen. Alvast dank !!
[09:53] <Postbushd> dit is het resultaat : Paste #p9uyp5xnl
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-co
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[03:59] <Ubuntero|33584> hola amigos
[04:00] <Ubuntero|33584> alguien me puede ayudar
[04:00] <Ubuntero|33584> con unos script
[04:04] <Ubuntero|33584> hola
[21:30] <Ubuntero|92449> buenas tardes
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[12:43] <Scary_Guy> greetings, it's about as idle in here as it is in #mugorg, but it's early. the rain is nice at least
[12:44] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's quite nice to have a T-storm blow through in the morning
[12:44] <cmaloney> though I'm hoping it pauses for a bot
[12:44] <cmaloney> bit
[12:44] <cmaloney> have to take my father-in-law to the doctor's office for his semi-annual head patting
[12:44] <Scary_Guy> not fun to drive in, although I'll take it over driving east into the sun any day
[12:45] <cmaloney> No doub
[12:45] <cmaloney> t
[12:45] <Scary_Guy> yeah I should probably go for a checkup myself. already sick though so at this point I'll just be giving someone money to tell me I'm sick
[12:46] <cmaloney> heh
[12:46] <cmaloney> Hopefully it's nothing too bad
[12:46] <Scary_Guy> pretty sure it's bronchitis, or at least that's what it started as in the beginning of the week, it's moving toward a full on cold at this point
[12:46] <Scary_Guy> throat is oddly not soar, which is nice
[12:47] <Scary_Guy> sore*
[12:50] <Scary_Guy> anyway, hopefully I kick it by Tuesday
[13:03] <cmaloney> Yeah, here's hoping
[13:21] <rick_h__> I was hoping to get the leaves raked before the rain fell
[13:21] <rick_h__> doh
[15:38] <_stink_> anyone else having problems with the main archive.ubuntu.com repo for 14.04?
[15:38] <_stink_> i get failed to fetch all over the place when i try to apt-get update.
[15:59] <widox> _stink_: just now got fails all over *.ubuntu for 14.10
[15:59] <_stink_> can i take solace in your fails?
[16:17] <brousch> No. Embrace your rage. visit a local Canonical employee and let him know how you feel in person
[16:19] <_stink_> you know it might be aptitude
[16:19] <_stink_> if i apt-get update it's fine
[16:19] <_stink_> if i use aptitude
[16:19] <_stink_> is all brokened
[16:20] <_stink_> all the local canonical employees are out of the country half of the time :P
[16:22] <jcastro> and also the mirrors are working fine it's all your fault
[16:22] <jcastro> hmm, is the OU mirror still an outdated pos?
[16:24] <_stink_> i love aptitude, but maybe it's time for a breakup
[16:32] <brousch> I didn't realize aptitude was still a thing
[16:32] <brousch> I thought it died when apt-get absorbed all of its features
[16:33] <mrgoodcat_> i thought apt-get was just a front end for aptitude and you actually needed to have it installed
[16:33] <mrgoodcat_> maybe not
[16:34] <_stink_> brousch: don't disparage my dearest love
[16:35] <cscheib> jcastro: is no one maintaining your/Ken's mirror any more? heh
[16:43] <jcastro> I don't know what happened to the guy who came after me
[16:44] <jcastro> but like, unless the disks got full, which I doubt, it was just a cron job using the exact same scripts as everyone else
[16:44] <jcastro> I would expect it to either run perfectly or be totally broken, not in a half-state
[16:45] <jcastro> though really I set that up in a pre-archive being CDNed world
[17:02] <cscheib> yea
[17:12] <greg-g> this article is making the rounds: http://time.com/4101340/dea-medical-marijuana-joke/ why don't journalists, I don't know, do any research and cite the many more than zero studies that show using whole plant (nug) marijuana is a useful medicine?
[17:12] <greg-g> morning (still for me) rant
[17:22] <cmaloney> greg-g: Because 1) reporting is expensive, so they hire freelance writers to reword published studies, and 2) research is hard and expensive (see #1)
[17:22] <cmaloney> which is why your newspaper is mostly Reuters and AP reprints
[17:22] <cmaloney> Oh, and C) Because the public can't tell the difference between real reporting and ad-copy.
[17:23] <greg-g> :(
[20:05] <greg-g> my toes are still cold after the low of 37 this morning
[20:05] <greg-g> these CA houses aren't made for this
[20:08] <brousch> What, no hemp socks?
[20:08] <greg-g> heh, which reminds me:
[20:08] <greg-g> 05:51 < greg-g> uh, this is my neighbor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9OVom73NNc
[20:08] <greg-g> 05:52 < greg-g> he no longer does that work, which is a whole story in and of itself
[20:08] <greg-g> 05:52 < greg-g> Full documentary at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owjmv3hV-a8
[21:30] <The_Machine> hello
[22:20] <cmaloney> howdy
[22:28] <The_Machine> I'll be back again; date night is a 'go' apparently
[22:29] <The_Machine> farewell
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2015-11-06-#ubuntu-pt
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[04:10] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:06] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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[01:15] <cyberanger> Unit193: ironic indeed
[01:35] <cyberanger> Unit193: working on firefox sync tonight
[02:18] <Unit193> \o/
[02:22] * cyberanger yawns
[02:22] <cyberanger> if I can stay up to finish
[02:23] <Unit193> FXA and everything?
[02:23] <cyberanger> That's the hope
[02:24] <cyberanger> Ideally in a way that'd allow for me to export it to docker and OVA
[02:24] <cyberanger> maybe that'd help you
[02:25] <cyberanger> Not sure how generic it'll be till I do it, but that's the idea
[02:28] <cyberanger> Also looking at Iridium PTT, but that's a project for another day
[02:48] <Unit193> I don't use Docker though. I just do the token server for now, not FXA yet.
[02:50] <cyberanger> VirtualBox (OVA) too
[02:50] <cyberanger> (and you could then convert that to a raw image, use in linode)
[02:50] <Unit193> Ah, right. Couldn't remember what that was.
[03:01] <cyberanger> OVA is the open virtualization format
[03:02] <cyberanger> (Well, OVF is, OVA is the archived (tarball) varient that's more popular)
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"cyberanger"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-ir
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[03:31] <keyhan> سلام چطور میشه یک یوزر ثبت کرد؟
[06:24] <Aref> Hi, Is there any body?
[07:20] <alireza_amirsami> سلام دوستان گل
[07:21] <alireza_amirsami> ممنون از dorfa
[07:21] <alireza_amirsami> برای این کانال
[07:21] <alireza_amirsami> من با pidgin اومدم
[07:25] <alireza_amirsami> :)
[07:29] <alireza_amirsami> ای بابا چرا کسی نیست
[07:33] <keyhan> این همین کانال خودمون نیست ؟
[07:34] <alireza_amirsami> ظاهرا معین قبلا درستش کرده
[07:36] <Aref> سلام دوستان، کسی هست تو کانال؟
[07:36] <alireza_amirsami> بله
[07:37] <Aref> سلام آقای امیرصمیمی، حالتون خوبه؟
[07:37] <alireza_amirsami> مرسی :)
[07:37] <keyhan> بله
[07:38] <Aref> دوستان امنیت کانالهای IRC چطوره؟
[07:39] <keyhan> منم دوست دارم بدونم
[07:40] <alireza_amirsami> https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A2%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D8%A2%D8%B1%D8%B3%DB%8C
[07:40] <alireza_amirsami> اینجا یه چیزایی نووشته
[07:40] <alireza_amirsami> البته نمیدونم چقدر درست هست
[07:40] <Aref> خب ظاهرا از نظر امنیتی تعطیله!
[07:41] <alireza_amirsami> اینجور نوشته :))
[07:41] <alireza_amirsami> ولی خب همچنان community اکثرا توزیع ها با IRC هست
[07:41] <Aref> حرکت، خوبی هست، بهنظرم اینطوری از تنشهای انجمن کمتر میشه
[07:42] <Aref> البته اگر استقبال بشه
[07:42] <alireza_amirsami> البته تلگرام هم هست
[07:42] <Aref> از تلگرام و پیامرسانها استفاده نمیکنم!
[07:43] <alireza_amirsami> چرا؟
[07:43] <alireza_amirsami> دلیل خاصی داره؟
[07:43] <keyhan> این مثل اینکه قبلا هم بوده فقط درفا تاپیک زده براش
[07:43] <Aref> آره
[07:43] <alireza_amirsami> آره
[07:43] <Aref> من قبلا چند بار سر زدم ولی کسی توش نبود!
[07:43] <alireza_amirsami> من اولین باره
[07:43] <alireza_amirsami> pidgin
[07:43] <alireza_amirsami> نرم افزار خوبیه
[07:43] <keyhan> اینا که هستن باتن؟
[07:44] <alireza_amirsami> ۲ حالت داره :)
[07:44] <Aref> چی شد من نفهمیدم؟
[07:44] <alireza_amirsami> چی چی شد
[07:44] <Aref> اینا کسی هستن؟ منظور کیهان چیه؟
[07:45] <keyhan> الان غیر ما چند نفر دیگه هم هستن
[07:45] <Aref> آها
[07:45] <keyhan> اشکان ایرج لوبوتو اوبونتو لوگ
[07:45] <alireza_amirsami> رفقا آی دی شما داخل انجمن چیه
[07:46] <Aref> من geek هستم
[07:46] <keyhan> من spirits
[07:46] <alireza_amirsami> :) خوشبختم
[07:46] <keyhan> همچنین
[07:46] <Aref> همچنین!!!
[07:46] <alireza_amirsami> کیهان همون دوست فیزیک دان که داخل وبلاگت درباره نجوم مینویسی
[07:46] <keyhan> اره
[07:47] <alireza_amirsami> من به وبلاگت سر میزنم معمولا
[07:47] <Aref> دوستان من با اجازتون مرخص بشم. فعلا.
[07:47] <keyhan> فقط درگیر امتحاناتم نشده اپدیت کنم
[07:47] <alireza_amirsami> خوش باشی
[07:47] <keyhan> مرسی
[07:48] <alireza_amirsami> انشالله بعد امتحانات دوباره آپدیت کنی
[07:48] <keyhan> حتما
[07:48] <alireza_amirsami> با pidgin امدی؟
[07:48] <keyhan> فعلا با وب بروزر هستم
[07:48] <alireza_amirsami> KIWI?
[07:49] <keyhan> ولی پیدجین عالیه
[07:49] <keyhan> اره کیوی
[07:49] <alireza_amirsami> آره خیلی خوبه
[08:07] <dorfa> Hi
[08:13] <alireza_amirsami> سلام
[08:13] <alireza_amirsami> چه طوری dorfa
[08:13] <alireza_amirsami> خیلی فکر خوبی کردی این تاپیک رو زدی
[08:14] <dorfa> سلام
[08:14] <dorfa> ولی هیشکی نیومده :'(
[08:14] <alireza_amirsami> حوصبه داشته باش :) میان
[08:14] <dorfa> مرسی
[08:14] <alireza_amirsami> چند نفر اومدن یه سر زدن و رفتن
[08:14] <dorfa> مهم اینه که تاپیک همیشه بالا بیاد
[08:15] <dorfa> چون همه من جمله خودم زود به زود فراموش می کنند
[08:15] <alireza_amirsami> کار جالبیه
[08:15] <dorfa> :)
[08:15] <alireza_amirsami> خیلی دوست دارم درباره امنیت irc بیشتر بدونم چون داخل ویکی پدیا فارسی نوشته امنیتش زیاد نیست
[08:16] <dorfa> از Alt+[ استفاده کنید. اول هرخط
[08:17] <dorfa> چون فکر نمیکنم قرار بوده که امن باشه. طراحی اش برای این نیست که شنود نشه
[08:17] <alireza_amirsami> برای چی
[08:17] <dorfa> تیم های فنی ازش استفاده می کنند
[08:17] <alireza_amirsami> alt
[08:17] <alireza_amirsami> رو میگم
[08:17] <alireza_amirsami> الان با کیوی اومدی؟
[08:18] <dorfa> که متن rtl باشه. روی پیدجین مشکلی ندارید ولی برای بقیه که با وب یا نرم افزار های دیگه هستند به هم ریخته میشه
[08:18] <dorfa> بله. با کیوی
[08:18] <dorfa> نرم افزارهای وب رو ترجیه میدم
[08:18] <dorfa> ترجیح*
[08:18] <alireza_amirsami> چرا؟
[08:19] <dorfa> یک مرورگر دارم که همه کار باهاش می کنم: تلگرام، ایمیل، وبگردی، آی آرسی، ادیت فایلها، وغیره
[08:19] <alireza_amirsami> اکی :)
[08:20] <alireza_amirsami> من مسنجرهام وصله به پیجین
[08:20] <alireza_amirsami> برای همین ازش استفاده میکنم
[08:20] <dorfa> از طراحی پیدجین بدم میاد. مدرن نیست
[08:20] <dorfa> نرم افزارها باید طراحی شون به سمت طراحی نسخه دسکتاپ تلگرام بره
[08:21] <dorfa> از پیدجین فقط قبلترها برای وصل شدن به واتزآپ استفاده کردم
[08:22] <keyhan> سلام درفا برای تاپیکش دستت درد نکنه
[08:22] <alireza_amirsami> مگه میشه؟؟! چه جوری به واتس آپ وصل میشه
[08:23] <dorfa> آره. ولی خیلی خوب یادم نیست. فکر کنم یک پلاگینی رو از روی گیتهاب دانلود کردم.
[08:23] <alireza_amirsami> مرسی سرچ میکنم جالب شد برام
[08:23] <alireza_amirsami> الان با فایرفاکس از واتس آپ استفاده میکنم
[08:24] <alireza_amirsami> هر چند بیشتر با تلگرام کار دارم
[08:24] <dorfa> فکر کنم این بود: https://github.com/davidgfnet/whatsapp-purple
[08:24] <alireza_amirsami> مرسی
[08:25] <dorfa> با فایرفاکس چطوری وصل میشید؟ سایت خودش حتما باید باگوشی رفت
[08:26] <alireza_amirsami> راستش خیلی مسخرست :)) باید گوشیت وصل باشه با وای فای و ... بعد با browser میتونی وصل بشی و چت کنی داخل کامپیوتر
[08:26] <alireza_amirsami> کاش مثل تلگرام بود
[08:30] <alireza_amirsami> ظاهرا حذفش کردن
[08:30] <alireza_amirsami> E: Unable to locate package whatsapp-purple
[08:30] <alireza_amirsami>
[08:32] <dorfa> روی گیتهاب که هست. یک ماه پیش هم کامیت داشته
[08:35] <alireza_amirsami> الان در حال تمرینم ، سر فرصت باهاش کشتی میگیرم ببینم چی میشه :)
[08:37] <dorfa> اوکی
[08:37] <dorfa> فعلا بای
[08:41] <CtrlC> alireza_amirsami ببین کی اینجاست!
[08:42] <keyhan> خودتو معرفی میکین
[08:42] <keyhan> میکنین
[08:42] <CtrlC> ای بابا.:-(
[08:43] <CtrlC> من یه آدم دیگه روی این سیاره.
[08:44] <CtrlC> شما چطور؟
[08:44] <keyhan> منظور توی انجمنه
[08:44] <keyhan> spirits
[08:45] <CtrlC> به به!
[08:45] <CtrlC> چه فرقی میکنه یوزر من تو انجمن. به هر حال خیلی وقته فعال نیستم.
[08:46] <CtrlC> عجیبه اینجا پیامی رد و بدل میشه!
[09:22] <Aref> دوستان کسی هست؟
[09:29] <CtrlC> هستیم انشالله.:-)
[09:29] <Aref> شما خبر دارید که در طی ۷ سالی که بچه ها در ایران در مدارس انگلیسی یا میخونن چند واژه یاد میگیرن؟
[09:30] <CtrlC> نه والا.
[09:31] <CtrlC> واسه پیدا کردن آمار تقریبی فک نکنم مشکلی داشته باشید البته. در این حد که بدونید در حد چه عددیه حداقل.
[09:31] <CtrlC> چون معمولا آخر کتاباشون لغات رو میارن.
[09:56] <Aref> آره ولی راستش یه لقمهٔ آماده میخواستم!
[09:57] <Aref> @CtrlC شما اسم اکانتت توی انجمن چیه؟
[10:01] <CtrlC> Aref: چطور؟
[10:02] <Aref> همینطوری!
[10:02] <CtrlC> چه فرقی میکنه.:-)
[10:02] <Aref> فرقی نمیکنه! حالا چرا میزنی؟!!! ;-)
[10:03] <CtrlC> زدن؟ معمولی و خونسرد و با لبخند گفتم.
[10:04] <Aref> منم با شوخی گفتم!
[10:04] <CtrlC> آها.
[10:04] <CtrlC> جریان چیه اینجا شلوغ شده؟ تعداد زیادی هم با کیوی میان.
[10:06] <Aref> یکی از بچهها با نام کاربری dorfa یه پست زده که بیایید از IRC استفاده کنیم و اینا!
[10:07] <CtrlC> اوه!
[10:09] <Aref> راستی گفتی کیوی؟ منظورت دقیقا چیه؟ من کیوی رو به عنوان یه فریمورک برای پایتون میشناسم!
[10:10] <CtrlC> kiwiirc
[10:11] <CtrlC> یه کلاینته.
[10:12] <CtrlC> نام کاربری شما چیه حالا؟
[10:12] <Aref> geek
[10:13] <Aref> خب کلاینت که زیاده، من از xchat استفاده میکنم
[10:13] <CtrlC> به به!
[10:13] <Aref> بله
[10:13] <CtrlC> انگار تو تاپیکه کیوی رو پیشنهاد دادن. واسه همینه.
[10:14] <Aref> نمیدونم دقت نکردم... dorfa که رابط تحت وب رو پیشنهاد کرده...
[10:15] <Aref> من قبلا چند بار سر زده بودم (خیلی وقت پیش از اینکه درفا چیزی مطرح کنه) ولی کسی توی کانال نبود.
[10:15] <Aref> یادمه جناب حقیری قبلها استفاده از این کانال رو پیشنهاد کرده بود.
[10:15] <CtrlC> همینطوریه. یه مدت دیگه هم باز خلوت میشه.:-)
[10:49] <danialbehzadi> تست فارسی
[10:49] <danialbehzadi> تست farsi با این کلاینت
[10:50] <CtrlC> آزمایش
[12:54] <kootahfekr> Che khabare, man naboodam :P
[12:57] <meghg> nothing :-D
[12:57] <kootahfekr> :)
[13:19] <keyhan> :)
[16:19] <ramank> Salam
[16:20] <ramank> Bache ha kasi jayi to mitune !oarefi kone vpn begiram vase anaroid?
[16:23] <keyhan> سلام من فقط تور رو میشناسم
[17:13] <CtrlC> کسی نمیدونه مشکل ملت با تور رایگان چیه. میرن پول میدن وی پی ان نا امن میخرن.
[17:14] <keyhan> همون بهتر برن پول بدن
[17:14] <CtrlC> هرچی کاربر تور بیشتر امنیت بیشتر آخه.
[17:15] <keyhan> دوستم با افتخار میگه رفتم خریدم بعد میگه این چیه تو استفاده میکنی
[17:15] <keyhan> قبلا خیلی سعی کردم مزایا رو حداقل حالی این بشر کنم ولی فایده نداشت
[17:16] <keyhan> خنگه دیگه
[17:16] <CtrlC> در حد معرفی بیشتر خیلی وقتها ارزش نداره آدم اعصاب خرج کنه.
[17:16] <keyhan> باقی هم همینطور فکر میکنن چون پولی نیست پس بدرد نمیخوره
[17:17] <keyhan> با لینوکس خیلی کیف میکنم یه کلمه بنویس تور بعدم...
[17:17] <keyhan> خخخخ
[17:17] <CtrlC> nixoeen: این اوبونتو لاگ رو بردارید بهتر میشه.:-)
[17:19] <keyhan> من بلد نیستم فکر کنم باید مسئولش برداره
[17:20] <CtrlC> بله با شما نبودم.
[17:20] <keyhan> :)
[17:21] <keyhan> ولی باید بودنش دلیل داشته باشه
[17:22] <CtrlC> واسه لاگ کردن کل پیاما و نمایش عمومیشونه دیگه.
[17:27] <nixoeen> CtrlC, چرا؟
[17:29] <CtrlC> nixoeen: این طوری بهتره. فکر نکنم کسی هم واقعا واسه چیز فنی ای بگرده توشون.
[17:31] <nixoeen> CtrlC, بودنش بهتر از نبودنشه.
[20:28] <dorfa> salam
[20:29] <dorfa> چرا آی آرسی مطلوب کاربرها نیست :'(
[20:33] <CtrlC> Cause Telegram and stuff
[20:33] <CtrlC> و البته سلام.
[20:34] <dorfa> آخه روی تلگرام که گروهی نداریم!
[20:38] <CtrlC> کلی گفتم. مردم ظاهرا اون روشا رو ترجیح میدن. کاهش جمعیت irc و اقبال میلیونی اون برنامه ها...
[20:39] <CtrlC> یه گروه اوبونتو هم دارن رو تلگرام البته.
[20:39] <dorfa> قفله
[20:41] <CtrlC> انگاری واسشون راحت تره یه برنامه نصب کنن که همه ی اشناهاشونم توشه تا با یه کلاینت irc ور برن. بقیه رو نمیدونم دلیلشونو.
[20:42] <CtrlC> و البته باحالی irc رو درک نکردن.:-P
[20:46] <CtrlC> dorfa: کلی گروه دیگه هم ریخته.
[21:06] <dorfa> برای لپتاپهای دو گرافیکه (اینتل و انویدیا)، باید درایور آزاد هر دو رو نصب کرد با فقط یکی؟
[21:06] <dorfa> و در این صورت به بامبلی نیازه؟/
[21:07] <dorfa> منظورم اینه که اگر درایور انحصاری نصب نکنیم، باز باید بامبلی رو نصب کنیم؟
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-se
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[10:17] <marsupapu> morgon
[10:28] <huttan> morgon
[10:40] <marsupapu> Jag troligen behövär lite /ignore här :D
[10:50] <huttan> marsupapu: ja det är ett himla spamm här
[10:53] <marsupapu> Det borde jag veta. Glömde bara, jag har varit borta några år.
[10:54] <marsupapu> Men nu tänkte jag att jag måste kom tillbaka innan jag glömmär altt om svenska.
[11:01] <huttan> marsupapu: du kan ju köra svenskt language i ditt ubuntu om ifall du saknar svenskan =)
[11:08] <marsupapu> Det kunde jag göra, faktiskt. Men jag tror att det är inte tillräckligtom jag vill uphålla min kundskaper.
[11:14] <marsupapu> *mina :D
[11:17] <huttan> marsupapu: vart bor du då ?
[11:20] <marsupapu> I östra Finland.
[11:22] <marsupapu> Finland är ju tvåspråkig land, men här finns nästan inga svensksprokiga människor.
[11:22] <marsupapu> Här i öst, jag menar.
[12:46] <Amoz> marsupapu, det är alltid klokt att öva sina språkfärdigheter
[16:22] <Groggy> Kan man med cron köra ett skript vissa specifika tider?, i mitt exempel 03:30, 07:30, 11:00, 14:00, 17:30 och 00:00. Med andra ord går inte 0 3,7,11,14,17,24 * * * <kommandot som ska köras>. Alternativet är ju 0,30 3,7,11,14,17,24 * * * <kommandot som ska köras> och köra scriptet dubbelt så många gånger som behövs... Eller finns det något annat verktyg som är bättre lämpat?
[16:35] <Groggy> Eller är bästa alternativet att ha två rader, en för hela timmar och en för halva?
[17:02] <Meerkat> Groggy, två rader, ja.
[17:03] <Groggy> Meerkat: Tack! Tänkte ju inte riktigt efter när jag ställde frågan, tog ju bara en kvart att komma fram till hur man skulle göra :P
[22:56] <goopen> Amoz: sup
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-ru
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[04:17] <tagezi> andrex: чо ты пльзуешь для скачивания видео?
[04:18] <tagezi> у тебя вроде стоял какойто плагин для ютуба
[04:55] <andrex> tagezi: savefrom
[07:37] <llorephie> Урурутра
[10:04] <tagezi> у меня ютуб оказывается забивает свап.. дырка в html5 в фф
[10:05] <tagezi> причем эта гадина сначала забивает свап, а затем всю память
[10:08] <andrex> куль
[10:09] <andrex> огнелис потек значит)
[10:12] <pr0mode> дня
[10:13] <buriedalive> приф
[10:13] <buriedalive> tagezi о0 а чо такое бывает?
[10:40] <tagezi> buriedalive: ну вот я уже дня три на этом обжигаюсь
[10:40] <tagezi> хотел конференцию посмотреть на ютубе.. вчера 2 раза пришлось перезагружаться, потомучто комп умерал
[10:41] <buriedalive> а если например какой нить iceweasel попробовать?
[10:42] <buriedalive> интересно, тоже так будет или нет
[10:44] <tagezi> пробовать времени особо нет.. проще скачать и посмотреть на окали
[10:45] <tagezi> л*
[10:45] <llorephie> Нарооооод. Настраивал кто OpenVPN с IPv6?)
[10:46] <llorephie> А то понять не могу куда копать. IPv4 вроде прокинул, правила в ufw прописал. А IPv6 адрес хоть и выдаёт - но игнорирует наличие сети =_=
[10:49] <buriedalive> я не знаю про это, может кто другой делал, llorephie
[10:49] <buriedalive> сиди, жди
[10:50] <andrex> Tskill: опять летать буш?
[10:54] <andrex> незареганое чучело
[10:56] <llorephie> :D
[10:58] <andrex> спи дальше
[10:59] <andrex> llorephie: пиши на форум
[12:59] <Leagnus> блин, непойму, почему браузер utf-8 файл с кирилицей загружает кракозяблами
[13:10] <andrex> гнправильный браузер какойто)
[13:11] <Leagnus> нифига: локально груизится норм., а с сервака, тот же файл - как ANSI
[13:11] <Leagnus> хостёры гады покапались, что ли
[14:02] <buriedalive> Leagnus а что за браузер?
[14:03] <buriedalive> у меня такое было, я с линукса смотрю всё читаю, а кто смотрит с венды - у того кракозябре
[14:03] <Leagnus> Хром, не важно: хостер оказывается в /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf поставил мне windows-1251
[14:04] <buriedalive> сволочи, как они могли
[14:04] <tagezi> Leagnus: зачем хостишся в доме пристарелых?
[14:04] <Leagnus> а где нужно?
[14:10] <Sergey_IT> в доме престарелых koi-8r
[14:10] <tagezi> Leagnus: там где нет больных альсгеймером
[15:27] <artemz> Leagnus: для пхп-макак windows-1251 в самый раз, не понимаю твоих претензий
[15:31] <Leagnus> artemz: ты о Маках? Я не знаю другого пути, как в php-файлах нормально кириллицу держать, как только в UTF-8
[15:31] <Leagnus> в смысле просто, без заморочек с перекодированием
[15:31] <artemz> ну так и держи в utf8, кто запрещает то
[21:16] <cl4r1ty7072> подскажите какой купить планшет,чтоб на него поставить полноценный Linux
[21:44] <Leagnus> AMD486DX
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-it
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[01:03] <SimoneCerza> Salve a tutti!
[01:10] <SimoneCerza> c e nessuno?
[01:10] <SimoneCerza> avrei bisogno di un info
[01:26] <squizzolo> Salve, qualcuno in linea per chiedere aiuto?
[07:30] <Manu-sh> ciao
[07:30] <Manu-sh> c'è qualcuno online ?
[07:42] <Mr_Pan> no
[08:23] <utente> ciao mondo
[09:20] <neramarea> buongiorno... qualcuno mi può aiutare a cambiare lo sfondo del desktop? non vuol saperne di applicare quello che seleziono io... rimane fisso quello del lightdm...
[09:20] <cristian_c> neramarea: forse a ubuntu non piace il tuo wallpzper
[09:21] <neramarea> cristian_c ne ho provati a bizzeffe... ;-)
[09:21] <cristian_c> neramarea: ho già letto di questo problema ieri
[09:21] <neramarea> dannazione a quando ho aggiornato a trusty...
[09:22] <cristian_c> neramarea: hai aggiornato da...?
[09:22] <neramarea> 12.04
[09:22] <pampero> Ciao a tutti
[09:22] <cristian_c> neramarea: unity?
[09:23] <neramarea> usavo pangolin con gnome-shell e filava tutto da dio. non so che kaiser m'è passato per la testa, con quel do release upgrade... gnome è diventato ingestibile, lento come le madonne. così l'ho asfaltato e sto con unity. ma non mi ama...
[09:24] <cristian_c> neramarea: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[09:26] <neramarea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258607/
[09:27] <neramarea> manco riesco più a gestire sistemi in guest con vbox... :-(
[09:27] <cristian_c> neramarea: cat /etc/apt/sources.list && ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:27] <cristian_c> !paste | neramarea
[09:27] <ubot-it> neramarea: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:28] <neramarea> sì, sì, tranquillo... non copio direttamente sul canale... ;-) http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13258615/
[09:29] <Carlin0> cento ... complimenti
[09:29] <pampero> ho un problema con ubuntu 14.04.3: all'avvio mi dice che /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 non è pronto e mi da due scelte, lo skip ed il mount manuale, in entrambi i casi all'avvio non ho lo swap montato, si riesce a risolvere?
[09:29] <cristian_c> Carlin0: ha superato lozione nel record di ppa installati
[09:29] <neramarea> troppi ppa, eh Carlin0? ;-)
[09:30] <neramarea> e che ne ho rimossi a decinaia...
[09:30] <cristian_c> pure...
[09:30] <Carlin0> cristian_c, nota bene che ha un sources.list strano
[09:31] <Carlin0> neramarea, il problema grosso è : cosa avevi attivo quando hai avanzato di versione ?
[09:31] <cristian_c> Carlin0: sì, gli manca multiverse
[09:31] <cristian_c> per il resto è ok
[09:31] <Carlin0> pampero, ma si avvia ubuntu ?
[09:31] <pampero> certo si avvia
[09:31] <neramarea> vabbè, dai ragazzi... ormai ho capito che ho compromesso tutto. e, siccome mi serve pure winzozz NON in virtualbox, tagliamo la testa al toro e reinstallo pulito pulito. solo un consiglio: 14.04.03 o 15.10?
[09:32] <cristian_c> neramarea: dipende
[09:32] <cristian_c> neramarea: che pc hai?
[09:32] <neramarea> da che?
[09:32] <Carlin0> pampero, sudo apt install pastebinit
[09:33] <neramarea> asus x55c. intel i3-2328m. grafica hd graphics 3000. 6gb ram
[09:33] <Carlin0> pampero, cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[09:33] <cristian_c> neramarea: 15.10
[09:33] <Carlin0> pampero, sudo blkid | pastebinit
[09:33] <pampero> ok adesso arriva
[09:33] <cristian_c> neramarea: provala in live, semmai
[09:33] <Carlin0> pampero, posta i link degli ultimi 2 comandi
[09:34] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258643/
[09:34] <pampero> questo è il mio fstab
[09:34] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258645/
[09:35] <pampero> e questo l'altro
[09:35] <neramarea> cristian_c, ho un hd da mezzo tera, e uso winsozz solo per rootare smartphone e per qulche vecchio gioco tipo monkey island. dici che 325gb a ubuntu e 175 a winsozz sia un buon compromesso?
[09:35] <Carlin0> pampero, hai la swap criptata ... sinceramente non conosco la cosa
[09:36] <cristian_c> neramarea: solo tu puoi sapere quanto spazio ti serve
[09:36] <cristian_c> neramarea: ma 300 GB a ubuntu è tanta robs
[09:36] <cristian_c> se non devi riempirlo di dati
[09:37] <neramarea> ho il vizio di non cancellare mai nulla, di quel che scarico...
[09:37] <Carlin0> neramarea, sarebbe meglio 25/30 gb a ubuntu e poi fai una partizione dati
[09:38] <neramarea> Carlin0 qui mi cogli ignorante...
[09:38] <cristian_c> neramarea: è bello sapere che hai aggiunto ben 3 ppa diversi di gambas
[09:38] <neramarea> :-O
[09:38] <cristian_c> melius abundare quam deficere
[09:38] <Carlin0> se la fai ntfs la puoi anche condividere con win
[09:39] <Carlin0> 3 gambe
[09:39] <neramarea> Carlin0, riassunto: installo winsozz, entro in live e partiziono con gparted e poi installo ubuntu?
[09:39] <cristian_c> phablet-team-tools-precise.list
[09:39] <cristian_c> neramarea: hai installato pure ubuntu touch?
[09:40] <neramarea> ma che ne so...
[09:40] <neramarea> e un crogiuolo di demenza, il mio pc...
[09:40] <Carlin0> neramarea, sarebbe meglio entri in live , prepari le partizioni e poi installi prima win e poi ubuntu
[09:40] <Carlin0> che win installi ?
[09:40] <pampero> Grazie Carlin0 per l'aiuto
[09:40] <neramarea> win: ntfs dati: ntfs ubuntu: ext4?
[09:40] <neramarea> win7
[09:41] <Carlin0> pampero, ... non sono stato di grande aiuto .. purtroppo non conosco l'argomanto
[09:42] <pampero> vai tranquillo almeno hai risposto
[09:42] <Carlin0> neramarea, quanta ram hai ? usi sospensione ?
[09:42] <neramarea> 6gb. sospensione means?
[09:43] <neramarea> (se una certa asta su ebay va a buon fine, i gb di ram diventeranno 10)
[09:44] <cristian_c> virtualbox.org.list
[09:44] <cristian_c> neramarea: probabile spiegazione di vm vbox andate a ramengo
[09:45] <neramarea> funzionano, sai...? ma sono diventate lente pure quelle.
[09:45] <Carlin0> neramarea, quando spegni il pc spegni o sospendi / iberni ?
[09:45] <neramarea> e comunque vbox continua ad avere seri problemi nel gestire le porte usb.
[09:45] <neramarea> Carlin0 spengo.
[09:46] <Carlin0> neramarea, puoi fare a meno della swap
[09:46] <neramarea> anche perchè sull'altro notebook si blocca sempre tutto, ibernando o sospendendo...
[09:48] <neramarea> da quanto la partizione condivisa, secondo te? quanto spazio a winsozz? etichette? flag? punti di mount?
[09:48] <Carlin0> neramarea, un consiglio su vbox : ne installi 1 e se va non aggiornarla ... (io faccio così)
[09:49] <Carlin0> win non so quanto spazio voglia ... per di + non ho mai visto win7
[09:49] <neramarea> eliminerò vbox. al massimo lo terrò per emulare un hackintosh...
[09:49] <Carlin0> googla e vedi un po
[09:50] <neramarea> ok. comunque mi confermi win e dati ntfs e ubuntu ext4?
[09:52] <cristian_c> neramarea: per le usb ci vuole l'extension pack
[09:52] <Carlin0> dai lo spazio necessario a win ntfs , 25/30 gb a ubuntu punto di mount / ext4 , tutto il resto ai dati ntfs e se vuoi puoi mettere come punto di mount in fase di installazione (lo devi mettere a mano) /media/dati
[09:52] <cristian_c> !virtualbox | neramarea
[09:52] <ubot-it> neramarea: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox
[09:53] <Carlin0> e anche aggiungerti al gruppo vboxusers
[09:53] <cristian_c> neramarea: ed evita di aggiungere i ppa di virtualbox...
[09:53] <cristian_c> essì
[09:53] <neramarea> se vuoi puoi mettere come punto di mount in fase di installazione (lo devi mettere a mano) /media/dati <<< a cosa serve?
[09:54] <Carlin0> neramarea, serve che ti monta la partizione in automatico all'avvio
[09:54] <neramarea> oooook
[09:54] <cristian_c> pampero: perché hai criptato la swap?
[09:55] <Carlin0> neramarea, quella partizione sarà visibile sia da win che da ubuntu ...
[09:56] <neramarea> stiamo sempre parlando della partizione dati, giusto? è a quella che devo dare il mount su /media/dati?
[09:57] <Carlin0> neramarea, si ... in modo che i dati salvati li potrai usare da entrambi gli OS
[09:57] <neramarea> perfect
[09:57] <neramarea> mi sa che ci vediamo tra qualche bsod...
[09:58] <neramarea> per sicurezza mi copio la home su hd esterno... ;-)
[09:59] <pampero> a dir la verità mi si è criptata nell'installazione
[10:00] <pampero> almeno non mi sembra di averlo detto esplicitamente
[10:01] <Carlin0> pampero, vediamo ... sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[10:02] <Carlin0> oppure una immagine di gparted
[10:02] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258753/
[10:03] <Carlin0> fdisk manco la vede
[10:03] <pampero> mi da un altro errore quando eseguo il comando
[10:04] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258762/
[10:04] <akis24> ah pure un disco gpt
[10:05] <pampero> che non so cosa sia....
[10:05] <akis24> pampero: usa tabella partizioni disco gpt immagino hai winz8 o successivo ecco
[10:06] <pampero> avevo winz8 ma ho cancellato tutto e ho solo ubuntu ora
[10:08] <akis24> pampero: posta uno screen con gparted
[10:08] <akis24> !image | pampero
[10:08] <ubot-it> pampero: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[10:11] <pampero> installo gparted e la carico
[10:11] <Carlin0> pampero, quanta ram hai .... usi iberanzione /sospensione ?
[10:12] <pampero> ufficialmente 4GB ma non so perchè il sistema ne veda solo 3
[10:12] <Carlin0> hai il 32 bit forse
[10:12] <pampero> non ho mai ibernato il pc ma a volte lo metto in standbay
[10:12] <Carlin0> hai installato la 32 bit ?
[10:12] <pampero> no 64
[10:13] <Carlin0> pampero, uname -a
[10:13] <Carlin0> poi posti l'immagine di gparted che vediamo anche quella
[10:14] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258800/
[10:14] <cristian_c> pampero: probabilmente 1 GB è riservato alla gpu
[10:15] <cristian_c> alla scheda grafica
[10:15] <cristian_c> se è una ram condivisa tra cpu e gpu
[10:16] <Carlin0> se non usassi lo standby la soluzione sarebbe semplice
[10:16] <pampero> probabile che sia così
[10:16] <pampero> anzi sicuro
[10:16] <pampero> perchè non ci avevo penstao...
[10:16] <pampero> https://imgur.com/oMI95HL
[10:16] <Carlin0> pampero, free | pastebinit
[10:16] <cristian_c> pampero: e poi c'è la differenza di conversione tra gigabyte e gibibyte
[10:17] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258815/
[10:17] <cristian_c> GB != GiB
[10:17] <pampero> si cristian_c anche quella influsce sicuramente ma non mi fa perdere 1GB
[10:17] <pampero> su 4GiB
[10:18] <Carlin0> cmq vede + di 3 gb quindi il resto va alla gpu
[10:18] <pampero> ok
[10:20] <cristian_c> pampero: cat /etc/crypttab
[10:21] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258835/
[10:25] <cristian_c> pampero: al massimo prova a commentare quella riga
[10:25] <akis24> pampero: una volta che hai avviato il sistema normalmente se dai cat /proc/swaps che dice ?
[10:27] <pampero> ora che lo ho avviato senza premere S o M non mi da nulla
[10:27] <pampero> mi visualizza solo lo header tipo Filename type ecc
[10:28] <pampero> cristian_c ora vado a commentare
[10:30] <cristian_c> pampero: allora
[10:30] <pampero> ora riavvio e vediamo ciò che accade
[10:30] <pampero> a dopo
[10:30] <Carlin0> no aspe...
[10:30] <cristian_c> pampero: il tuo fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258643/
[10:30] <Carlin0> pampero,
[10:30] <cristian_c> pampero: è come se tu avessi due swap
[10:30] <Carlin0> non serve riavviare
[10:31] <Carlin0> ci sarà ancora ?
[10:31] <cristian_c> boh
[10:31] <pampero> è vero... avevo pasticciato per provare a risolvere
[10:31] <akis24> lol
[10:32] <Carlin0> pampero, commenta solo questa riga → /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw,noauto 0 0
[10:32] <pampero> all'inizio era commentata solo la prima riga, quella dell'UUID
[10:32] <Carlin0> ah ecco ...
[10:33] <Carlin0> pampero, commenta quella riga e poi dai sudo swapon -a
[10:33] <pampero> ho provato a dare uno swap on ma non trova il device
[10:33] <Carlin0> e poi vediamo free
[10:33] <cristian_c> pampero: per favore, segui le indicazioni di Carlin0
[10:34] <pampero> ho commentato /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw,noauto 0 0 e ho dato
[10:34] <pampero> e ho dato swapon
[10:34] <Carlin0> -a
[10:34] <Carlin0> sudo swapon -a
[10:34] <pampero> si anche con -a
[10:34] <Carlin0> ora fai vedere free
[10:35] <cristian_c> lol
[10:35] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258923/
[10:35] <Carlin0> non la monta ...
[10:35] <pampero> sempre lui, non ha montato lo swap...
[10:36] <pampero> quando do swapon -a mi dice che non riesce a trovare il device
[10:36] <ExPBoy> che caos
[10:36] <Carlin0> pampero, da gparted te la fa cancellare la swap ?
[10:37] <pampero> boh ora provo
[10:37] <Carlin0> sda3 ...
[10:37] <cristian_c> Carlin0: eh, ma se è criptata...
[10:38] <pampero> eliminata
[10:38] <Carlin0> ricreala
[10:39] <pampero> fatto
[10:39] <Carlin0> pampero, sudo blkid | pastebinit
[10:40] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258953/
[10:40] <Carlin0> cambia l'UUID in fstab e metti questo b48f8c79-13da-4cb3-89b3-a87641cfc8ab
[10:40] <pampero> ok
[10:41] <Carlin0> e dopo sudo swapon -a
[10:41] <Carlin0> e free
[10:42] <pampero> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258964/
[10:42] <pampero> montatooooooooooooo
[10:43] <Carlin0> Usei a posto
[10:43] <Carlin0> OPs -U
[10:43] <pampero> grazie :-)
[10:43] <Carlin0> di nulla
[10:43] <pampero> grazie ancora :-)
[10:46] <Carlin0> pampero, evita di criptare partizioni a meno che tu non abbia segreti terribbili nel tuo pc lol
[10:46] <Carlin0> vado a magnar ... ciao
[10:46] <pampero> lol
[10:46] <pampero> buon pranzo!
[10:46] <Carlin0> eh devo prepararlo prima ...
[10:46] <Carlin0> /away
[11:11] <chiara> ciao ragazzi.. sono una novellina di ubuntu e sto cercando di conficurare un acces point tramite connessione lan
[11:11] <cristian_c> chiara: spiega esattamente cosa devi fare
[11:11] <chiara> come faccio a cambiare ip adress e subnetmask?
[11:12] <chiara> della mia connessione lan
[11:13] <cristian_c> chiara: qual è il fine di tutto ciò?
[11:15] <AleCasta> Buongiorno a tutti...sono nuovo e ho un problema all'installazione...qualcuno pratico che mi aiuti?
[11:15] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | AleCasta
[11:15] <ubot-it> AleCasta: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[11:16] <AleCasta> ok grazie ubot.
[11:17] <AleCasta> Mi compare questo messaggio: si è verificato un errore e non è stato possibile installare il bootloader alla posizione specificata. Non voglio perdere tutto ;:(
[11:17] <cristian_c> AleCasta: puoi fornire un contesto a ciò di cui parli?
[11:18] <giovanni> ciao a tutti ho un problema non riesco a connetermi tramite eternet ma colo se attaco il cell
[11:19] <cristian_c> giovanni: numero di versione di ubuntu?
[11:19] <giovanni> 15.10
[11:19] <cristian_c> giovanni: appena installata?
[11:20] <giovanni> si ma mi sa che mi hanno combinato danno
[11:20] <AleCasta> sto installando ubuntu x la prima volta e ho seguito una videoguida da internet. Ho prima fatto il partizionamento da WIndows poi ho avviato Linux con una USB. Ho seguito i passaggi della guida e l'unica cosa che non ho fatto è creade lo swap, non riuscivo nell'operazione e ho letto che non è indispensabile. Sono andato avanti e il messaggio mi com
[11:20] <AleCasta> pare durante l'installazione
[11:20] <cristian_c> giovanni: in live il cavo va?
[11:20] <cristian_c> giovanni: chi ti ha combinato danno?
[11:20] <cristian_c> AleCasta: allora
[11:20] <cristian_c> AleCasta: per prima cosa, non seguire videoguide per installare ubuntu
[11:20] <cristian_c> AleCasta: c'è la documentazione ufficiale
[11:20] <cristian_c> !installazione | AleCasta
[11:20] <ubot-it> AleCasta: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[11:21] <giovanni> se collego in cel come ruter va ma se attacco il cavo dal modem vodafone non va
[11:22] <cristian_c> giovanni: puoi rispondere alle domande?
[11:22] <AleCasta> eh ormai il danno è fatto:(
[11:23] <giovanni> un amico a provato mettendo le mani nel terminale ma non a risolto nulla
[11:23] <cristian_c> AleCasta: hai partizionato manualmente? Perché?
[11:23] <cristian_c> giovanni: in live hai provato il cavo?
[11:23] <giovanni> cioè
[11:23] <AleCasta> No ho seguito Windows. Perchè mi compare quel messaggio che ho scritto sopra e non so come continuare
[11:23] <cristian_c> AleCasta: installa seguendo il wiki
[11:24] <cristian_c> AleCasta: anzi, prima, prova il sistema in live
[11:24] <AleCasta> si ma ora cosa devo fare? Annullare l'installazione? Mi dà la voce: potrebbe lasciare il computer in uno stato non avviabile
[11:24] <giovanni> cristian che significa in live ??
[11:25] <cristian_c> giovanni: avvia l'usb in modalità live e prova il cavo ethrnet
[11:25] <cristian_c> giovanni: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_USB
[11:26] <cristian_c> AleCasta: se magari spieghi, cos'hai fatto...
[11:26] <cristian_c> -,
[11:26] <giovanni> non mi visualizza propio eternet
[11:27] <cristian_c> giovanni: in live?
[11:27] <AleCasta> Ho seguito una guida e tutto è andato normalmente fino alla crezione dello swap, che non ho fatto. Dopo di chè ho installato
[11:27] <AleCasta> e mi compare quel messaggio
[11:27] <giovanni> non so come si fa sto live
[11:27] <cristian_c> AleCasta: 'nella posizione specificata' significa che hai specificato dove installare il bootloader
[11:27] <cristian_c> cosa che non hai minimamente spiegato
[11:28] <AleCasta> si in sda 3
[11:28] <cristian_c> allora
[11:28] <cristian_c> giovanni: fai il boot da usbe scegli 'prova ubuntu senza installarlo'
[11:28] <cristian_c> AleCasta: perché in sda3?
[11:29] <cristian_c> AleCasta: come hai partizionato?
[11:29] <AleCasta> Perchè ho un portatile e volevo mantenere Windows
[11:29] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ho domandato pere e hai risposto mele
[11:30] <AleCasta> Cristian perdonami, sono nuovo dell'argomento. Puoi spiegarmi
[11:30] <cristian_c> AleCasta: innanzitutto, vediamo ste partizioni
[11:30] <giovanni> ma e possibbile disabilitare eternet da terminale ????
[11:30] <cristian_c> AleCasta: apri gparted
[11:31] <cristian_c> giovanni: puoi fare come ti è stato chiesto?
[11:31] <giovanni> non sono capace e gia tanto che so dove si trova il terminale
[11:32] <AleCasta> cristian come posso fare per mandarti una foto della mia schermata? Sono proprio bloccato e non ho alcuna icona nello schermo. Solo accensione volume wifi ecc.
[11:32] <cristian_c> giovanni: il boot da usb lo sai fare?
[11:32] <cristian_c> giovanni: su su. basta leggere ciò che ho scritto
[11:32] <giovanni> no non so farlo
[11:32] <cristian_c> !image | AleCasta
[11:32] <ubot-it> AleCasta: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[11:33] <cristian_c> giovanni: bene, trova qualcuno che sia in grado di accendere un pc
[11:33] <cristian_c> e poi torna qui
[11:33] <giovanni> ad accenderlo sono ancora capace non sono cosi scemo
[11:34] <cristian_c> giovanni: e allora come hai avviato la usb?
[11:34] <cristian_c> non continuiamo a girarci intorno
[11:34] <giovanni> lo inserita e dal cellulare ho messo ruter usb cosa che permette android
[11:34] <AleCasta> https://imgur.com/TFrjtBU
[11:35] <cristian_c> giovanni: che c'entra il cellulare con ubuntu?
[11:36] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ok, allora non sei in modalità live
[11:36] <giovanni> perche per avere la connesione ora e por scrivere qui ho dovuto dare connessione dal cell
[11:36] <cristian_c> AleCasta: visto che non siamo sicuri di com'è fatto sto disco
[11:37] <cristian_c> AleCasta: annulla l'installazione e la rifai
[11:37] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ma avviala dalla modalità live
[11:37] <cristian_c> giovanni: sì, ma non c'entra niente con l'avviare il sistema sul pc
[11:37] <cristian_c> giovanni: e allora come hai avviato la usb?
[11:38] <cristian_c> ripeto la domanda.
[11:38] <giovanni> tramite boot
[11:38] <cristian_c> AleCasta: e se puoi , connettiti qui direttamente dalla livd
[11:38] <cristian_c> live
[11:38] <cristian_c> giovanni: e non puoi rifarlo?
[11:38] <cristian_c> il boot
[11:39] <cristian_c> giovanni: scegliendo 'prova ubuntu senza installarlo'
[11:40] <giovanni> non me lo dava gia quando lo installato perche volevo gia farlo prima di installare tutto
[11:40] <cristian_c> giovanni: ???
[11:40] <cristian_c> puoi tradurre?
[11:40] <AleCasta> ho fatto annulla l'operazione ma non succede nulla. Faccio suspend?
[11:40] <cristian_c> AleCasta: no
[11:40] <giovanni> torno subitomi hanno suonato il campanello+
[11:40] <cristian_c> AleCasta: che cosa vedi?
[11:41] <AleCasta> la schermata che ho postato. Se faccio clic su annulla non succede niente
[11:41] <cristian_c> AleCasta: hai premuto ok?
[11:41] <AleCasta> si
[11:42] <cristian_c> AleCasta: prova ctrl+alt+canc
[11:42] <AleCasta> provato, nulla
[11:42] <cristian_c> uhm
[11:43] <dido> buongiorno ho un problema con gli aggiornamenti mi dice che il disco è pieno ma non è vero questo è il messaggio "The upgrade needs a total of 109 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 49,2 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'."
[11:45] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ctrl+alt+f1
[11:45] <cristian_c> AleCasta: oppure esc
[11:45] <AleCasta> ok fatto!
[11:45] <AleCasta> ho una schermata con codici
[11:45] <cristian_c> dido: hai creato la /boot separata?
[11:45] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ottimo
[11:46] <cristian_c> !image | AleCasta
[11:46] <ubot-it> AleCasta: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[11:46] <dido> Cristian: ho installato in modo automatico quindi penso di si.
[11:46] <cristian_c> dido: eh, no
[11:47] <cristian_c> dido: la boot non è su partizione a parte, di default
[11:47] <cristian_c> a meno che non glielo dica tu
[11:47] <dido> ah ok allora no...
[11:47] <cristian_c> dido: sudo parted -l
[11:47] <dido> pensavo che in automatico andasse su partizione, mh bè ma in questo caso non dovrei avere problemi di spazio.
[11:48] <cristian_c> dido: sudo fdisk -l
[11:48] <cristian_c> !paste | dido
[11:48] <ubot-it> dido: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[11:48] <cristian_c> dido: df -h
[11:48] <cristian_c> dido: incolla tutti i risultati dei comandi su pastebin
[11:49] <AleCasta> https://imgur.com/SsMDxVJ
[11:50] <dido> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13259347/
[11:50] <dido> il fdisk-l
[11:50] <cristian_c> AleCasta: interessante
[11:50] <AleCasta> sono nelle vostre mani
[11:51] <cristian_c> The default username is ubuntu, and the password is blank on an Ubuntu LiveCD
[11:51] <cristian_c> AleCasta: come username digita: ubuntu
[11:51] <cristian_c> com password, lascia vuota e dai invio
[11:51] <dido> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13259362/
[11:51] <dido> il secondo risultato
[11:52] <AleCasta> a fianco di ubuntu login devo scrivere ubuntu?
[11:52] <cristian_c> dido: ma sei in live -,-
[11:52] <dido> no
[11:52] <dido> hdd
[11:52] <cristian_c> no, mi sbagliai
[11:53] <cristian_c> AleCasta: sì
[11:53] <dido> np
[11:53] <AleCasta> poi invio?
[11:53] <cristian_c> AleCasta: sì, alla richiesta di password
[11:54] <AleCasta> ok fatto
[11:54] <cristian_c> /dev/sda1 2048 999423 997376 487M EFI System
[11:54] <cristian_c> /dev/sda2 999424 1499135 499712 244M Linux filesystem
[11:54] <cristian_c> /dev/sda3 1499136 976771071 975271936 465G Linux LVM
[11:54] <cristian_c> dido: hai cifrato il disco?
[11:54] <dido> no
[11:54] <cristian_c> !lvm
[11:54] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'lvm'
[11:54] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ora che esce?
[11:55] <dido> mh, quindi che succede?
[11:56] <cristian_c> Il Logical Volume Management (LVM) è uno strato software che si introduce tra il partizionamento fisico del disco e la disponibilità di volumi per il sistema.
[11:56] <cristian_c> A partire da una o più partizioni fisiche, l'LVM costruisce un numero arbitrario di partizioni virtuali (logiche) che offrono una vasta serie di vantaggi all'amministratore di sistema. Il più evidente tra questi vantaggi è la possibilità di modificare "a caldo" (non senza alcune precauzioni fondamentali) la dimensione e il numero delle partizioni.
[11:56] <AleCasta> Appare questo: The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software: the exact discribution terms for each program are describer in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Ubuntu comes with ABLOSUTELY NO Warranty, to the extent permitted by applicable law. ubuntu@ubuntu: poi un segno strano tipo una tilde e un segno di dollaro
[11:56] <cristian_c> dido: perché hai scelto installazione con lvm?
[11:57] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ok, quello è il prompt
[11:57] <dido> mh... ho installato in LVM sinceramente perchè quando ho installato non mi sono accorto della spunta. però dovrebbe essere più comodo se devo modificare le partizioni
[11:58] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ora digita: reboot
[11:58] <AleCasta> invio?
[11:58] <cristian_c> AleCasta: una volta riavviato l'installer, scegli modalità di prova
[11:58] <cristian_c> invece che modalità installazione
[11:58] <cristian_c> AleCasta: sì
[11:59] <cristian_c> dido: beh, in questo caso lvm ti ha dato problemi, forse
[11:59] <AleCasta> ottimo, siamo in pista.
[11:59] <cristian_c> AleCasta: che esce?
[11:59] <cristian_c> AleCasta: il tutto senza spegnere forzatamente il pc :P
[11:59] <cristian_c> che non gli fa bene
[12:00] <dido> ihih già... come posso fare per risolvere? avete qualche idea? l'unica cosa che sembra non funzionare è quella.
[12:01] <AleCasta> ok ho fatto prova Ubuntu, attendo. Io Cristian non so come ringraziarti, sei un genio
[12:01] <AleCasta> ok sono in Ubuntu desktop
[12:02] <cristian_c> AleCasta: allora
[12:02] <cristian_c> AleCasta: se ti trovi in live, apri gparted
[12:02] <cristian_c> AleCasta: e posta una schermata
[12:05] <cristian_c> /dev/sda2 237M 167M 58M 75% /boot
[12:05] <AleCasta> https://imgur.com/xsbGbzY
[12:05] <cristian_c> /dev/dm-0 450G 128G 299G 30% /
[12:06] <cristian_c> dido:
[12:06] <dido> potrei provare con gparted a ridemensionare?
[12:07] <cristian_c> AleCasta: beh, ora è chiaro
[12:07] <cristian_c> la natura del problema
[12:08] <cristian_c> AleCasta: sono tutte partizioni ntfs
[12:08] <cristian_c> AleCasta: hai fatto un casino
[12:09] <cristian_c> AleCasta: hai provato ad installare ubuntu su partizioni ntfs
[12:09] <cristian_c> ci credo va a scatafascio
[12:10] <cristian_c> dido: posta anche tu una schermata di gparted
[12:10] <AleCasta> spero di non aver perso nulla
[12:10] <cristian_c> visto che la / è occupata solo al 30%
[12:10] <cristian_c> AleCasta: non lo so cos'hai combinato
[12:11] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ma questo è perché non si seguono le guide ufficiali
[12:11] <cristian_c> e ci si affida a blog e siti sconosciuti
[12:11] <AleCasta> ora come procedo??
[12:13] <dido> https://imgur.com/mE3Esfd
[12:18] <Carlin0> dido, cosa vuoi ridimensionare ?
[12:19] <dido> il boot perchè non riesco a fare gli aggiornamenti, o se possibile cambiare la cartella temporanea di dove vengono salvati i file per aggiornamenti
[12:19] <Carlin0> dido, metti in paste il risultato di questi comandi
[12:19] <Carlin0> dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[12:20] <Carlin0> dpkg -l | grep linux-header
[12:20] <Carlin0> uname -a
[12:20] <Carlin0> !paste
[12:20] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[12:20] <cristian_c> AleCasta: allora
[12:21] <dido> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13259549/
[12:22] <dido> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13259559/
[12:23] <dido> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13259563/
[12:26] <Carlin0> dido, apri questo link http://sprunge.us/iZJQ copia il comando tutto in un colpo solo e incollalo nel terminale
[12:26] <dido> ok sta processando
[12:28] <Carlin0> dido, dopo dai sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get -y autoremove && sudo apt update && sudo apt -y dist-upgrade
[12:28] <Carlin0> sempre tutto insieme
[12:28] <AleCasta> io ci sono
[12:28] <nuovo> aggiungo che software center non scarica
[12:28] <dido> ok sta facendo
[12:29] <Carlin0> dido, ogni volta devi cancellare i kernel vecchi ... quella ppartizione di /boot è trppo piccola e incasina
[12:29] <Carlin0> nuovo, aggiungi a cosa ?
[12:31] <dido> ah ok... questo non lo sapevo pensavo facesse tutto da solo, ok quindi con i comandi dati prima si sono puliti i vecchi kernal
[12:31] <dido> ?
[12:31] <dido> mentre per la boot non posso farci nulla?
[12:31] <Carlin0> puoi farci ma non è semplice ...
[12:33] <dido> mh ok mi sa cha faccio prima a reinstallare il tutto aumentando il boot e togliendo la lvm
[12:33] <Carlin0> dido, i kernel vecchi se non sei tanto pratico puoi rimuoverli da gestore pacchetti
[12:33] <Carlin0> dido, se reinstalli non farla la partizione di boot
[12:34] <Carlin0> fai solo la /
[12:34] <Carlin0> partizione unica
[12:34] <dido> ah ok va bene grazie della info.
[12:35] <Carlin0> o al limite fai la /home ma lascia perdere la /boot
[12:37] <dido> ok va bene, dovrei trovare il tempo di leggermi la documentazione di modo di fare una bella installazione.teroricamente con la /home i dati in caso di reinstallazione i file in /home non vengono persi?
[12:38] <Carlin0> esatto dido
[12:38] <cristian_c> AleCasta: prova a vedee in windows a cosa corrispondono quelle 4 partizioni
[12:38] <Carlin0> dai 25/30 gb alla / e il resto la metti /home
[12:41] <dido> ok perfetto appena ho un attimo di tempo faccio. grazie bb giornata
[12:41] <AleCasta> arrivo
[12:43] <nuovo> scusate il disturbo ma essendo nuovo come funziona qua sul supporto chat?
[12:43] <dido> exit
[12:44] <AleCasta> non mi avvia windows normalmente. Strumenti di ripristino??
[12:44] <ExPBoy> nuovo, funziona che esponi il tuo problema e chi sa risponde
[12:45] <AleCasta> dice di inserire il disco di installazione di Windows e riavviare il pc...ho perso tutto?
[12:45] <nuovo> ok grazie ExPBoy avendolo gia esposto aspetterò
[12:45] <ExPBoy> cosa hai esposto?
[12:47] <nuovo> il problema con firefox che non carica o si disconnette o non parte prorio forse perchè perde connessione non so ,e quello con il monitor e playonlinix
[12:47] <ExPBoy> ?
[12:48] <ExPBoy> !veggenti | nuovo
[12:48] <ubot-it> nuovo: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[12:49] <nuovo> monitor imposto risoluzione 1680 1050 da terminale poi quando stacco devo rifare tutto e mi dice http://paste.ubuntu.com/13259749/
[12:50] <nuovo> per gli altri problemi io non ho la piu pallida idea di cosa sia che non va
[12:55] <nuovo> su paly on linux vorrei installare metatrade ma mi da questo risultato: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13259778/ di cosa abbia firefox non ho idea
[12:57] <checco> ciao ragazzi, ho un rebus, complicato,su questo pc ho un 14,10 lts, avevo incasinato network-manager infatti ora non funziona piu, come posso disinstallarlo e rimetterlo con impostazioni standard? come posso farlo da un altra partizione di ubuntu visto che internet e' inacessibile ?
[13:08] <autumn> salve. come faccio a cambiare la sensibilità del mouse? dalle impostazioni non trovo il modo
[13:12] <checco> autumn: prova con questo link http://forum.ubuntu.it/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=340893
[13:13] <autumn> l'avevo visto, non ho quelle voci
[13:18] <checco> esiste un pacchetto cliccabile autoinstallante per network-manager, ? non ho possibilita di acesso ad internet su altra partizione in quanto network manager e inutilizzabile
[13:19] <AleCasta> ragazzi non riesco più ad avviare Windows...mi dà status 0xc0000225...dice di inserire disco di ripristino
[13:21] <checco> AleCasta: mi sa che non sei nel canale adatto,, heheh
[13:22] <checco> scherzo, non sono del supporto, non prendermi seriamente ;_)
[13:27] <AleCasta> lo so ma è dovuto ad un errore Linux quindi
[13:27] <AleCasta> anzi ringrazio Cristian
[13:29] <gigirock> !ciao | nuovo
[13:29] <ubot-it> nuovo: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[13:29] <nuovo> ciao gigirock
[13:30] <krabador> !ciao | nuovo
[13:30] <ubot-it> nuovo: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[13:33] <nuovo> il mio problema con la nuovva versione 15.10 e che si interrompe la connessione continuamente esempio se faccio apt-get uplod non parte
[13:33] <krabador> nuovo, sudo lshw -C network
[13:33] <krabador> !pastebin | nuovo
[13:33] <ubot-it> nuovo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[13:46] <krabador> nuovo, <krabador> nuovo, sudo lshw -C network
[13:52] <krabador> nuovo, ho i privati disabilitati
[13:52] <krabador> scrivi tranquillamente in canale
[13:56] <krabador> nuovo, ho i privati disabilitati
[13:56] <krabador> scrivi tranquillamente in canale
nuovo, sudo lshw -C network
!pastebin | nuovo
[13:58] <krabador> nuovo, senti, connettiti con un'altro device, stai entrando ed uscendo continuamente
[13:58] <krabador> non è utile per te e per noi
[14:37] <Fra91> Buona sera, ho appena scaricato Ubuntu 15.10 su windows 10..Come devo procedere per poterlo installare su una seconda partizione dell'HDD principale??
[14:37] <cristian_c> Fra91: prima di installarlo, va provato
[14:38] <cristian_c> in modalità 'live'
[14:38] <cristian_c> Fra91: crea un supporto , usb o dvd
[14:38] <cristian_c> !iso | Fra91 , per dvd
[14:38] <ubot-it> Fra91 , per dvd: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[14:38] <cristian_c> !usbwin | Fra91 , per usb
[14:38] <ubot-it> Fra91 , per usb: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[14:39] <akis24> Fra91: e ultimo ma non ultimo nel caso decidessi di installarlo ...
[14:39] <akis24> !uefi | Fra91
[14:39] <ubot-it> Fra91: UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[14:40] <Fra91> Perfetto, grazie
[14:40] <akis24> prego
[14:40] <Simone10001> Salva, ho installato ubuntu sul mio portatile ed ho due problemi
[14:40] <cristian_c> prego
[14:41] <akis24> Simone10001: descrivili per bene qui
[14:41] <Simone10001> 1) Non ho più il wifi
[14:41] <Simone10001> 2) Ubuntu si avvia solo con acpi=off
[14:42] <akis24> Simone10001: da quando non hai wifi ? hai provato a impostare la connessione ?
[14:42] <cristian_c> Simone10001: ti hanno asportato la scheda wifi dal pc?
[14:42] <cristian_c> fisicamente, dico
[14:43] <Simone10001> il pc è nuovo.. ho installato ubuntu in dual boot e dal primo avvio non posso usare il wifi
[14:43] <akis24> Simone10001: da disco live hai provato a vedere se funzionava ?
[14:44] <cristian_c> Simone10001: ma in live hai provato il wifi?
[14:44] <cristian_c> appunto
[14:44] <Simone10001> no
[14:45] <cristian_c> Simone10001: facci sapere, allora
[14:45] <Simone10001> come devo avviare la disco?
[14:46] <cristian_c> Simone10001: nel solto modo, ma scegli 'prova ubuntu senza installarlo' una volta arrivato al menù di scelta
[14:46] <cristian_c> *solito
[14:46] <akis24> Simone10001: come hai installato ? dove hai messo il disco ? lettore dvd dai
[14:46] <Simone10001> pen drive
[14:47] <Simone10001> quindi devo disinstallare prima??
[14:47] <cristian_c> Simone10001: allora fai il boot da usb
[14:47] <cristian_c> e procedi come ti si è detto
[14:47] <cristian_c> Simone10001: nessuno ha parlato di disinstallazione
[14:47] <Simone10001> ook
[14:47] <cristian_c> Simone10001: ma hai letto cosa abbiamo scritto?
[14:48] <Simone10001> certo
[14:48] <cristian_c> Simone10001: nel solto modo, ma scegli 'prova ubuntu senza installarlo' una volta arrivato al menù di scelta
[15:13] <Fra91> ho Windows 10 ma il mio PC ha modalità bios Legacy. Se installo Ubuntu 15.10 entrando dal BIOS e facendo partire il sistema da DVD, viene creata automaticamente la seconda partizione durante l'installazione?
[15:15] <rboss> ciao, sto cercando di installare ubuntu su un ASUS X205T ma non riesco, il programma di installazione mi va in crash con il seguente messaggio: trying to overwrite 'etc/console-setup/compose.ISO-8859-11.inc', which is also in package console-setup 1.123 ; c'è qualcuno che mi può dare una mano o posto sul forum?
[15:16] <rboss> per Fra91 disattiva in bios il SECURE BOOT.
[15:17] <Fra91> entrando nel BIOS del PC disattivo il SECURE BOOT?
[15:17] <rboss> Fra91 si e disattiva anche il boot da windows, dovrebbero essere in due menù diversi.
[15:24] <killer> ciao
[15:24] <killer> ho un problema
[15:25] <killer> ieri ho inserito un comando nel terminale per aggiornare i drive dellaa mia scheda grafica ma questo comando mi ha eliminato le risoluzioni dallo schermo
[15:25] <Carlin0> killer, che comando ?
[15:25] <killer> ora lo schermo è messo in 4:3
[15:26] <killer> non me lo ricordo :-(
[15:26] <killer> ne ho messi più di uno e al riavvio mi si è diminuito lo schermo
[15:26] <Carlin0> !veggenti
[15:26] <ubot-it> Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[15:27] <killer> non ho capito?
[15:27] <killer> non mi puoi aiutare?
[15:28] <Carlin0> se non sappiamo cosa hai fatto ...
[15:29] <killer> vediamo se ritrovo il coando
[15:30] <killer> sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[15:30] <killer> dovrebbe essere questo
[15:31] <Carlin0> per curiosità : dove lo hai preso ?
[15:31] <killer> www.youtube.com/watch?v=-le0FU6mqRo
[15:31] <killer> da qua
[15:31] <Carlin0> killer, che ubuntu hai ?
[15:31] <killer> 12.04
[15:32] <krabador> killer, guarda documentazione ufficiale , piuttosto che video presi a caso
[15:32] <Carlin0> !fgrlx
[15:32] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'fgrlx'
[15:32] <Carlin0> !fglrx
[15:32] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'fglrx'
[15:32] <killer> krabador hai ragione ma non riuscivo a capire come si aggiornavano e mi sembrava più facile un video
[15:33] <Carlin0> manco ..
[15:33] <killer> avrei dovuto chiedere subito qua
[15:33] <Carlin0> !ati
[15:33] <ubot-it> Guarda su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Video/Ati | Driver open source: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Video/Ati/Radeon
[15:33] <Carlin0> leggi le guida killer
[15:34] <Carlin0> che poi quel comando non aggiornava ma ha tolto i pacchetti dei driver proprietari
[15:34] <killer> in questa quida dovrei trovare la soluzione al mio problema o serve per i drive?
[15:35] <Carlin0> reinstalla i driver proprietari
[15:36] <killer> e il comendo dove lo trovo?
[15:36] <killer> per avviare la reistallazione naturalmente
[15:36] <Carlin0> leggi le guida killer
[15:36] <Carlin0> leggi le guida killer
[15:37] <killer> ok
[15:41] <rboss> ciao, sto cercando di installare ubuntu su un ASUS X205T ma non riesco, il programma di installazione mi va in crash con il seguente messaggio: trying to overwrite 'etc/console-setup/compose.ISO-8859-11.inc', which is also in package console-setup 1.123 ; ho postato anche sul forum
[15:42] <Carlin0> rboss, controlla l'md5sum della iso
[15:42] <killer> fglrx Catalyst
[15:42] <Carlin0> !md5 | rboss
[15:42] <ubot-it> rboss: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[15:42] <killer> io devo istallare questo giusto?
[15:48] <killer> mi puoi rimandare i link della guida che ho dovuto riavviare il pc
[15:49] <krabador> !ati | killer
[15:49] <ubot-it> killer: Guarda su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Video/Ati | Driver open source: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Video/Ati/Radeon
[15:49] <killer> grazie
[16:06] <Guest16021> salve, avrei una domanda off topic: esistono hosts online che ospitano gratuitamente un piccolo sito internet con pagine php?
[16:07] <krabador> !chat | Guest16021
[16:07] <ubot-it> Guest16021: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:16] <rboss> Carlin0, scusa il ritardo, ci ho messo un'attimo a capire come fare, ok md5 ok.
[16:17] <Carlin0> rboss, hai controllato ?
[16:18] <rboss> si, tutto ok
[16:19] <Carlin0> rboss, come l'hai fatta la chiavetta usb ?
[16:19] <rboss> ubuntu 14.04.03 amd64 è ok, la chiavetta è stata fatta con unetbootin
[16:20] <Carlin0> pare che unetbootin sia buggato ... almeno così mi dicono
[16:20] <Carlin0> rboss, hai win ?
[16:21] <rboss> lo devo reinstallare in versione 8 su ASUS X205T e ci vuole un 45'.... altre soluzioni?
[16:22] <Carlin0> allora prova a fare la chiavetta con il comando dd
[16:22] <rboss> ?? sorry ma sono un principiante ..
[16:23] <rboss> c'é una wiki esaustiva che mi posso leggere?
[16:23] <Carlin0> rboss, il comando è dd if=iso-da-copiare of=/dev/la-chiavetta
[16:23] <Carlin0> rboss, sei su ubuntu ora ?
[16:24] <rboss> ok, comunque ho provato anche ad installare l'ultima versione di Debian e mi ha fatto lo stesso scherzetto....
[16:24] <rboss> si sono su ubuntu.
[16:24] <Carlin0> hai la iso su questo pc ?
[16:24] <rboss> si, in home
[16:25] <Carlin0> collega la chiavetta
[16:25] <rboss> fatto.
[16:25] <Carlin0> e dammi il risultato di sudo fdisk -l
[16:25] <Carlin0> mettilo in paste
[16:25] <Carlin0> !paste
[16:25] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:31] <rboss> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[16:31] <rboss> 255 testine, 63 settori/tracce, 60801 cilindri, totale 976773168 settori
[16:31] <rboss> Unità = settori di 1 * 512 = 512 byte
[16:31] <rboss> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[16:31] <rboss> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[16:31] <rboss> Identificativo disco: 0xe3102a4b
[16:31] <rboss> Dispositivo Boot Start End Blocks Id System
[16:32] <Carlin0> rboss, aspe
[16:32] <giovanni> salve ho un problema con ubuntu 15.10 non mi riconosce eternet
[16:32] <Carlin0> rboss, sudo apt install pastebinit
[16:32] <rboss> Carlin0 come avrai capito non sono riuscito a fare il !paste
[16:32] <Carlin0> rboss, sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[16:33] <Carlin0> rboss, dai i 2 comandi in sequenza
[16:33] <Carlin0> e incolla qui il link che ti da il 2°
[16:33] <Carlin0> giovanni, sei sicuro che funzioni la scheda ethernet ?
[16:34] <rboss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13262666/
[16:34] <Carlin0> rboss, la chiavetta è da 16 gb ?
[16:34] <giovanni> quella funziona perche prima con windows si collegava
[16:34] <rboss> si
[16:34] <Carlin0> rboss, ls | pastebinit
[16:35] <Carlin0> giovanni, hai win ancora ?
[16:35] <giovanni> no
[16:35] <Carlin0> quanti anni ha il pc giovanni ?
[16:35] <rboss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13262712/
[16:35] <giovanni> bo
[16:36] <giovanni> ma io non vorrei aver combinato danni dal terminale
[16:36] <Carlin0> rboss, è ubuntu gnome che vuoi mettere sulla chiavetta ?
[16:36] <giovanni> si possono fare dei controlli ??
[16:36] <rboss> no, è ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64
[16:37] <Carlin0> giovanni, prova da live ma se non va la ethernet di solito è morta
[16:37] <Carlin0> rboss, ok
[16:37] <giovanni> ma ce modo di disabilitarla da terminale ??
[16:37] <giovanni> perche wifi funziona
[16:38] <giovanni> e se collego il cel come ruter funziona
[16:39] <Carlin0> rboss, sudo dd if=ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb
[16:39] <Carlin0> rboss, fai copia incolla e aspetta che finisca
[16:39] <rboss> ok, grazie.
[16:40] <rboss> come finisce mi faccio vivo.
[16:40] <Carlin0> giovanni, tutto dice che la scheda sia morta , ma puoi provare da live
[16:40] <giovanni> ma li funziona era gia stata fatta la prova
[16:41] <Carlin0> giovanni, quando ?
[16:41] <giovanni> provato stamane
[16:41] <Carlin0> giovanni, che ubuntu hai ?
[16:42] <giovanni> 15.10
[16:42] <Carlin0> e giovanni da quando non va ?
[16:42] <krabador> giovanni, se 15.10 in live funziona, reinstalla
[16:44] <giovanni> ieri che un amico no so cosa a combinato per configurarmi il wifi tramiteil terminale
[16:44] <krabador> giovanni, se 15.10 in live funziona, reinstalla
[16:44] <krabador> !iso | giovanni
[16:44] <ubot-it> giovanni: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[16:47] <giovanni> ma ce modo di sapere se le porte eternet sono attive ??
[16:47] <rboss> 2060288+0 record dentro
[16:47] <rboss> 2060288+0 record fuori
[16:47] <rboss> 1054867456 byte (1,1 GB) copiati, 365,562 s, 2,9 MB/s
[16:47] <Carlin0> rboss, prova con questa chiavetta ...
[16:47] <Carlin0> dovrebbe andare
[16:47] <rboss> Carlin0, procedo!! se ho errori comunico immediatamente, grazie.
[16:48] <Carlin0> eh mo mi allontano cmq chiedi qui... qualcuno ci sarà
[16:48] <rboss> ok, non parte neanche....
[16:48] <rboss> iniziamo bene...
[16:49] <Carlin0> rboss, settato il boot dal bios ?
[16:49] <rboss> yes
[16:49] <rboss> non esce dal bios, si pianta e ritorna
[16:50] <rboss> secure boot disattivato
[16:50] <Carlin0> se non esce dal bios ha problemi il pc
[16:51] <Carlin0> cmq ora devo andar ....
[16:51] <rboss> ok, grazie.
[16:51] <ViCe95> giovanni: prova a scrivere nel terminale ifconfig e posta il risultato su paste
[16:51] <ViCe95> !paste | giovanni
[16:51] <ubot-it> giovanni: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:53] <giovanni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13263115/
[16:56] <ViCe95> giovanni: che os? su vm?
[16:57] <giovanni> xp il 7 non mi ricordo
[16:58] <ViCe95> giovanni: intendo linux
[16:59] <giovanni> 15.10
[17:01] <ViCe95> giovanni: in virtual machine
[17:01] <ViCe95> ?
[18:26] <giuseppe3> Ciao vorrei avere spiegazioni su come istallare gli aggiornamenti della mia nvidia geforce 840m su ubuntu 12.04
[18:28] <giuseppe3> ?
[18:28] <Guest70215> Ciao a tutti
[18:28] <giuseppe3> Ciao
[18:29] <giuseppe3> Tu sai rispondere alla mia domanda?
[18:29] <Guest70215> vorrei installare sul mio aceron d-260 una distro ubuntu qual mi consigliate
[18:29] <Guest70215> considerate che è un net-book con qualche annetto...
[18:30] <giuseppe3> 12.04
[18:30] <giuseppe3> Io mi trovo bene
[18:30] <Guest70215> giuseppe3, credo non sia più supportata o sbaglio?
[18:31] <giuseppe3> Non ne ho idea..sono entrato anche io per chiedere aiuto
[18:31] <giuseppe3> Kerd
[18:31] <giuseppe3> Tu puoi aiutarmi?
[18:31] <Guest70215> giuseppe3, grazie lo stesso...
[18:31] <Guest70215> :)
[18:32] <Guest70215> non so di cosa hai bisogno
[18:32] <Guest70215> puoi ripetere la domanda?
[18:32] <giuseppe3> Bot
[18:33] <giuseppe3> Marco
[18:34] <giuseppe3> Ciao vorrei avere spiegazioni su come istallare gli aggiornamenti della mia nvidia geforce 840m su ubuntu 12.04
[18:34] <giuseppe3> Marcofe puoi aiutarmi?
[18:49] <ViCe95> Salve, ho un problema con ubuntu studio 15.10, all'avvio compare questa stringa "drm intel"
[18:50] <ViCe95> "Drm:intel_pipe_config_compare [i915]] *error* mismatch in ips_enabled"
[18:51] <Guest95694> Salve a tutti
[18:51] <Guest95694> Sono nuovo del canale
[18:52] <Guest95694> Avrei bisogno di un aiutino su compton
[18:59] <krabador> Guest95694, chiedi
[19:11] <ViCe95> Salve, ho un problema con ubuntu studio 15.10, all'avvio compare questa stringa
[19:11] <ViCe95> "Drm:intel_pipe_config_compare [i915]] *error* mismatch in ips_enabled"
[19:17] <krabador> ViCe95, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:18] <krabador> ViCe95, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:19] <ViCe95> krabador: ho già pastebinit , ma essendo una sola riga ho preferito non usarla, anche perchè non scrivo dal pc in questione
[19:20] <krabador> ViCe95, rientra qui con quel pc, per favore
[19:21] <ViCe95> krabador: non si avvia il dm , riavvio ed entro su una tty con irssi
[19:22] <krabador> ViCe95, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1492764
[19:22] <krabador> sembra che kernel successivi a 4.2 non ne siano affetti
[19:22] <krabador> ti sto segnalando i comandi , per vedere se hai tutto aggiornato
[19:22] <krabador> in quanto potrebbe essere rientrato in aggiornamenti del kernel
[19:23] <krabador> di questi ultimi giorni
[19:24] <ViCe95> krabador: ho già fatto un apt-get upgrade da recovery
[19:24] <krabador> ViCe95, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:24] <krabador> questo devi dare
[19:24] <ViCe95> krabador: anche
[19:25] <krabador> eh "anche"
[19:25] <krabador> o segnali cosa hai fatto
[19:25] <krabador> o giochiamo ai mimi
[19:28] <ViCe95> krabador: allora, partiamo da una settimana fa :aggiorno ubuntu studio 15.04 tutto ok, fino a giovedì tutto funzionante, venerdì mattina mi dava quell'errore senza nessuna modifica apportata, oggi entro in recovery ,mi collego tramite cavo faccio un upgrade e un dist-upgrade e non funziona.
[19:32] <cristian_c> ViCe95: history | pastebinit
[19:33] <ViCe95> cristian_c: non ho fatto altro da terminale
[19:34] <cristian_c> ok
[19:34] <cristian_c> ViCe95: alloa
[19:34] <cristian_c> ViCe95: ls /var/log/apt
[19:35] <ViCe95> cristian_c: quindi ?
[19:39] <Guest95694> michael
[19:41] <cristian_c> !paste | ViCe95
[19:41] <ubot-it> ViCe95: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[19:42] <ViCe95> paste.ubuntu.com/13266761
[19:45] <cristian_c> ViCe95: cat /var/log/apt/history.log
[22:05] <uiffgtjj> ciao
[22:08] <thealmighty> buonasera
[22:08] <thealmighty> ho un problema con l'installazione di ubuntu in uefi su un toshiba
[22:09] <cristian_c> thealmighty: esponi pure
[22:10] <thealmighty> praticamente dopo l'installazione di ubuntu non c'è verso che il bios veda il grub
[22:11] <thealmighty> avendo i toshiba un bios abbastanza chiuso a differenza di altri pc non c'è la possibilità di selezionare il grub dalle partizioni uefi
[22:11] <cristian_c> capito
[22:11] <cristian_c> thealmighty: nome del toshiba?
[22:12] <thealmighty> satellite l50-a-1f2
[22:14] <cristian_c> thealmighty: http://chiedi.ubuntu-it.org/questions/16272/linux-su-toshiba-l50-a-1f2
[22:15] <thealmighty> si grazie l'avevo già vista sta guida ma purtroppo non ho risolto
[22:16] <uiffgtjj> Boot-Repair
[22:16] <thealmighty> neanche purtroppo
[22:16] <thealmighty> neanche con easy uefi
[22:16] <cristian_c> uiffgtjj: inatti
[22:16] <cristian_c> infatti
[22:16] <cristian_c> stavo pensando a quello
[22:16] <thealmighty> parte al reboot ma po ovviamente windows resetta l'mbr e mi si sputtana la configurazione di nuovo
[22:17] <cristian_c> thealmighty: e sarebbe utile inoltre vedere com'è partizionato il disco
[22:17] <thealmighty> addirittura con easy uefi ho disattivato l'mbr
[22:17] <thealmighty> in gpt ovviamente
[22:17] <uiffgtjj> se non ci sono problemi particolari e molto semplice
[22:18] <thealmighty> non saprei identificarle i problemi particolari
[22:18] <cristian_c> thealmighty: si può vedere il log di boot repair?
[22:18] <thealmighty> dovrei riprovare l'installazione
[22:23] <thealmighty> ci sono modalità di partizionamento particolari per l'installazione?
[22:30] <thealmighty> c'è qualcuno?
[22:30] <thealmighty> altro dubbio qui dice di preparare la chiavetta con la live utilizzando unetbootin
[22:30] <thealmighty> io l'ho fatta utilizzando rufus
[22:30] <thealmighty> potrebbe dipendere da questo anche?
[22:32] <cristian_c> thealmighty: beh, una volta che il sistema è installato
[22:32] <cristian_c> thealmighty: ma ripeto, vorrei vedere com'è partizionato il disco
[22:33] <cristian_c> ...
[22:33] <thealmighty> come faccio a mandarti uno screen?
[22:33] <cristian_c> !image ! thealmighty
[22:33] <ubot-it> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[22:33] <cristian_c> !image | thealmighty
[22:33] <ubot-it> thealmighty: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[22:33] <thealmighty> ok thanks
[22:34] <thealmighty> vuoi vederlo con il tool di windows o nel dos?
[22:34] <cristian_c> thealmighty: schermata di gparted
[22:35] <thealmighty> non ho ancora installato ubuntu
[22:35] <thealmighty> metto la live?
[22:35] <thealmighty> o la vuoi vedere con ubuntu installato?
[22:35] <Ronal> buona sera
[22:35] <thealmighty> buonasera ronal
[22:35] <cristian_c> thealmighty: perché hai parlato di grub allora?
[22:36] <thealmighty> perchè nel precedente tentativo di installare ubuntu ho riscontrato questi problemi
[22:36] <thealmighty> poi naturalmente non ho piu avuto tempo di smanettare e ho ripristinato windows in single boot
[22:37] <Ronal> io avrei un problema che penso semplice, ma non capisco come risolverlo perchè ancora non me ne intendo avendo installato l'altro ieri ubuntu, c'è qualcuno che se ne intende ed è disponibile?
[22:38] <ffhjjf> questa procedura la ho testata con successo piu volte con problemi come il tuo www.upubuntu.com/2012/09/how-to-repair-grub2-in-system-with.html?m=1
praticamente dopo l'installazione di ubuntu non c'è verso che il bios veda il grub
[22:39] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | Ronal
[22:39] <ubot-it> Ronal: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[22:39] <cristian_c> thealmighty: hai successivamente toccato le partizioni?
[22:39] <thealmighty> no
[22:40] <thealmighty> ho solo fatto una live di xubuntu mi pare con bootrepair e tentato invano che facesse tutto in automatico br
[22:40] <cristian_c> ffhjjf: per favore, non postare guide di risorse esterne a ubuntu qui in canale. Grazie
[22:41] <cristian_c> thealmighty: avvia la live
[22:41] <Ronal> bene, allora, oggi ho installato TS3, il problema è che per avviarlo devo ricorrere obbligatoriamente al terminale, è un .sh, e se lo apro normalmente mi apre un testo con una decina di righe di codice... qualcuno sà come risolvere? (se possibile)
[22:42] <thealmighty> ok 5 minuti e son qui di nuovo ;)
[22:42] <cristian_c> Ronal: tramite il comando sh
[22:42] <cristian_c> Ronal: dopo aver dato i permessi di esecuzione allo script
[22:43] <Ronal> cristian:c: gliel'ho dati, ma io vorrei per esempio eseguirlo normalmente, così da poter creare un collegamento sul desktop
[22:44] <thealmighty> eccomi
[22:44] <thealmighty> sto aprendo gparted
[22:48] <cristian_c> Ronal: vediamo che permessi ha
[22:48] <thealmighty> http://oi67.tinypic.com/fe2etc.jpg
[22:48] <thealmighty> si vede_
[22:48] <thealmighty> ?
[22:49] <thealmighty> ho preparato 150gb circa per ritentare l installazione
[22:49] <cristian_c> thealmighty: dove avevi installato il bootloader di ubuntu?
[22:50] <thealmighty> sda2 mi pare
[22:51] <cristian_c> Ronal: dove si trova lo script?
[22:52] <cristian_c> thealmighty: prova l'installazione
[22:52] <cristian_c> thealmighty: e poi eventualmente boot repair
[22:53] <thealmighty> riprovo seguendo di nuovo la guida che mi hai linkato e vediamo
[22:53] <thealmighty> cioe disabilitando solo il secure boot
[22:53] <thealmighty> xke ho letto su altri forum che era consigliato togliere da windows anche il fast boot
[22:54] <cristian_c> thealmighty: beh, assolutamente
[22:54] <cristian_c> thealmighty: disattiva il fastboot
[22:55] <cristian_c> thealmighty: su secure boot invece non s0n
[22:55] <cristian_c> non sono certo che si debba per forza disattivare
[22:55] <thealmighty> quella guida dice di si
[22:57] <cristian_c> bah, non la leggo come una cosa obbligatoria
[22:58] <thealmighty> il fastboot invece si_!
[22:58] <thealmighty> comunque dai per sicurezza le faccio entrambe
[22:58] <thealmighty> a tra poco...per ora ti ringrazio tanto per la pazienza
[23:00] <Ronal> cristian_c: in che senso dove si trova? se intendi la directory, è in Documents
[23:01] <cristian_c> Ronal: ls -l ~/Documents/ts3.sh
[23:01] <cristian_c> (o come si chiama)
[23:08] <Ronal> cristian_c: quel comando mi elenca tutte i files della cartella del programma
[23:09] <cristian_c> Ronal: beh,cno
[23:09] <Thealmighty> Ho creato lo swap di 4gb va bene?
[23:09] <cristian_c> Ronal: esattamente, cos'hai digitato?
[23:09] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: hai 4 gb di ram?
[23:09] <Thealmighty> E la restante partizione gli metto come punto di mount /
[23:09] <Thealmighty> Ne ho 8
[23:10] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: anche 8 va bene
[23:10] <Thealmighty> Devo creare altre partizioni?
[23:12] <Ronal> cristian_c: mi son spostato nella directory della cartella, e ho digitato "ls -l"
[23:12] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: posta una schermata
[23:12] <Thealmighty> Sono in setup cris...
[23:12] <cristian_c> Ronal: beh, digita: ls -l ~/Documents/nomedelloscript.sh
[23:12] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: posta una foto
[23:15] <Ronal> umh, come si fa la tilde?
[23:16] <Thealmighty> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/QEmK4jSGR5iZ6ow0u38c
[23:17] <Ronal> nono, niente
[23:18] <cristian_c> Ronal: altgr+ì
[23:19] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: sì, puoi creare la /
[23:19] <cristian_c> e aggiungerci una /home, volendo
[23:19] <Ronal> cristian_c: ho fatto il comando, mi dice: "ls: cannot acces cd: no such file or directory
[23:19] <Thealmighty> A che pro?
[23:20] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: per avere una /home separata
[23:20] <Thealmighty> Fa nulla mi va bene cosi...proseguo?
[23:20] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: e così non legarla al sistema operativo (leggasi: reinstallare l'os senza toccare la home)
[23:21] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: sì, prpsegui
[23:21] <cristian_c> prosegui
[23:21] <cristian_c> Ronal: che comando hai digitato?
[23:23] <Ronal> cristian_c: ls -l cd /home/ronal/documents/nomecartella/nomefile.sh
[23:23] <Ronal> cristian_c: l'ho fatto tabbando quindi mi sembra strano dica che non esiste
[23:24] <cristian_c> Ronal: perché cd?
[23:24] <cristian_c> senza cd
[23:25] <cristian_c> !paste | Ronal
[23:25] <ubot-it> Ronal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[23:29] <Ronal> ok ho fatto senza cd e mi dà:
[23:29] <Ronal> -rwxr-x- 1 rpmaò rpmaò 283 nov 14 20:00
[23:29] <Ronal> ok ho fatto senza cd e mi dà:
[23:29] <Ronal> -rwxr-x- 1 rpmaò rpmaò 283 nov 14 20:00
[23:29] <Ronal> ok ho fatto senza cd e mi dà: "-rwxr-x- 1 ronal ronal 283 nov 14 20:00"
[23:31] <Ronal> cristian_c: ok ho fatto senza cd e mi dà: "-rwxr-x- 1 ronal ronal 283 nov 14 20:00"
[23:31] <cristian_c> Ronal: non c'è bisogno di ripeterlo cento volte
[23:32] <cristian_c> Ronal: se fai doppio clic sul file, cosa esce?
[23:32] <cristian_c> Ronal: e se fai clic destro?
[23:33] <Ronal> cristian_c: doppio click apre gedit, con scritta una decina di righe di codice
[23:33] <cristian_c> Ronal: stai utilizzando unity?
[23:34] <Thealmighty> Nulla da fare mi parte windows
[23:35] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: bootrepair e posta il log su pastebin
[23:35] <Thealmighty> Di nuovo da live?
[23:35] <Ronal> cristian_c: unity? se intendi la versione di ubuntu, ho la 15.10
[23:35] <cristian_c> Thealmighty: anche da live
[23:35] <cristian_c> !bootrepair
[23:35] <ubot-it> Boot-Repair è uno strumento grafico per ripristinare l'accesso ad Ubuntu ed altri sistemi operativi: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/BootRepair
[23:36] <cristian_c> Ronal: quella con il launcher a sinistra
[23:36] <cristian_c> e lo sfondo color melanzana
[23:37] <Ronal> crisian_c: si allora penso sia unity
[23:38] <cristian_c> Ronal: e se fai clic destro?
[23:38] <Ronal> cristian_c: click destro mi elenca le solite operazioni possibili
[23:41] <thealmi> installato e aperto boot repair
[23:41] <thealmi> cosa faccio ora_
[23:41] <cristian_c> Ronal: ovvero?
[23:41] <thealmi> recommended repair?
[23:41] <cristian_c> !bootrepair | thealmi
[23:41] <ubot-it> thealmi: Boot-Repair è uno strumento grafico per ripristinare l'accesso ad Ubuntu ed altri sistemi operativi: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/BootRepair
[23:42] <cristian_c> thealmi: sì
[23:43] <thealmi> dove tropo il log?
[23:43] <thealmi> trovo*
[23:43] <thealmi> ah quel link paste.ubuntu ecc?
[23:44] <Ronal> cristian_c: "Apri con gedit - Apri con - Taglia - Copia - Muovi a - Copia a - Crea link - Rinomina - Sposta nel cestino - Comprimi - Email - Torna alla versione precedente - Proprietà
[23:45] <cristian_c> thealmi: sì
[23:45] <cristian_c> Ronal: molto sttano
[23:45] <thealmi> http://pastebin.com/vEgqwXZT
[23:45] <cristian_c> Ronal: allora
[23:45] <thealmi> vai...spero di non aver sbagliato nulla!
[23:45] <cristian_c> Ronal: intanto, crea il lanciatore
[23:47] <cristian_c> tanti , troppi file efi
[23:47] <thealmi> e quindi?
[23:49] <thealmi> forse tutti quelli dei tentativi precedenti...vedo anche un refind
[23:49] <cristian_c> /dev/sda1 2,048 616,447 614,400 Windows Recovery Environment (Windows)
[23:50] <cristian_c> /dev/sda5 463,097,856 464,773,119 1,675,264 Windows Recovery Environment (Windows)
[23:50] <cristian_c> O.o
[23:50] <thealmi> si l-avevo notato anche io due partizioni di ripristino di windows
[23:50] <thealmi> non so come mai
[23:52] <thealmi> ma diciamo che in relazione al dual boot queste partizioni non dovrebbero dare fastidio, quanto tutti i file efi
[23:55] <cristian_c> Windows not detected by os-prober on sda4.
[23:55] <cristian_c> Presence of EFI/Microsoft file detected: /mnt/boot-sav/sda2/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[23:55] <cristian_c> Presence of EFI/Boot file detected: /mnt/boot-sav/sda2/EFI/Boot/bkpbootx64.efi
[23:56] <cristian_c> Presence of EFI/Boot file detected: /mnt/boot-sav/sda2/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[23:56] <cristian_c> Presence of bkp file detected: /mnt/boot-sav/sda2/EFI/Boot/bkpbootx64.efi
[23:56] <cristian_c>
[23:57] <cristian_c> BootOrder: 0003,0000,2003,2001,2002
[23:57] <thealmi> lo metto a bagno nell acido!
[23:58] <cristian_c> Boot0003* ubuntu
[23:58] <cristian_c> Boot0000* Windows Boot Manage
[23:59] <cristian_c> e a seguire rete, usb e dvd
[23:59] <thealmi> non infierire cris...dimmi come posso risolvere! mi sta salendo il nazismo!
[23:59] <cristian_c> thealmi: sto esaminando il log
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[18:25] <linoge> Buenas
[20:13] <mefista_> k pasa chavales
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2015-11-14-#juju
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[00:22] <arosales> any ~charmers around?
[00:22] <arosales> I think most folks have started their weekend
[00:22] <marcoceppi> o/
[00:23] <marcoceppi> blahdeblah: it's failing lint
[00:24] <marcoceppi> DEBUG:runner:call ['/usr/bin/make', '-s', 'lint'] (cwd: /tmp/bundletester-FGMSmT/ntp)
[00:24] <marcoceppi> DEBUG:runner:hooks/ntp_hooks.py:77:80: E501 line too long (97 > 79 characters)
[00:24] <marcoceppi> DEBUG:runner:hooks/ntp_hooks.py:118:80: E501 line too long (90 > 79 characters)
[00:24] <marcoceppi> DEBUG:runner:make: *** [lint] Error 1
[00:24] <marcoceppi> DEBUG:runner:Exit Code: 2
[00:24] <blahdeblah> marcoceppi: thanks - those run *after* the amulet tests?
[00:25] <marcoceppi> blahdeblah: first
[00:25] <marcoceppi> http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-test-details/charm-bundle-test-parent-3531
[00:25] <marcoceppi> blahdeblah: that's a better breakdown of that output
[00:26] <blahdeblah> Right - that is much better; I'll get an update to that MP done over the weekend.
[00:28] <arosales> marcoceppi, wow still around :-)
[00:29] <arosales> marcoceppi: seems I can't find the MP for http://review.juju.solutions/review/2342
[00:29] <marcoceppi> arosales: it was deleted
[00:29] <marcoceppi> arosales: I'll remove from queue
[00:30] <arosales> blahdeblah: but looks like the ntp tests pased DEBUG:runner:The ntp deploy test completed successfully.
[00:30] <arosales> marcoceppi: thanks
[00:30] * arosales will move onto the next one
[00:30] <marcoceppi> arosales: removed ;)
[00:31] <blahdeblah> arosales: Yeah - those tests aren't terribly sophisiticated
[00:31] <arosales> well at leasts there is tests
[00:31] <arosales> :-)
[00:32] <marcoceppi> good news is, the tests pass, bad news is pep8 hates you ;)
[00:38] <blahdeblah> There's a way to tell those tests to override on a given line, isn't there?
[00:38] * blahdeblah asks Google
[00:41] <arosales> marcoceppi does charm proof check for pep8?
[00:41] <marcoceppi> arosales: it checks the charm if there's a "lint" target
[00:41] <marcoceppi> the charm author has a make lint target so we run it as part of bundle tester
[00:41] <marcoceppi> so it's basically, bundletester will do the following:
[00:42] <marcoceppi> - charm proof
[00:42] <marcoceppi> - make lint (if available)
[00:42] <marcoceppi> - make test (if available - unit tests)
[00:42] <marcoceppi> - run the charm integration tests
[00:43] <arosales> marcoceppi: ok, thanks
[00:55] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Have you given any thought to making charm proof wrt. layers?
[00:56] <cory_fu> Charm layers tend to fair ok, but not so much base or interface layers
[00:56] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I really want to make charm create for layers and charm add
[00:56] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: like charm create layer, charm add layer:nginx. I keep messing up the damn includes syntax like a dope
[00:57] <cory_fu> Agreed
[00:57] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: it's not a bad idea, it's not on the road map for this iteration but could make it on there before EOY
[00:58] * marcoceppi packs up computer for the weekend
[00:58] <cory_fu> T'was just an errant thought
[01:01] <arosales> marcoceppi: For monday, note charm CI is marking charm CI as green even though LXC fails, (aws pass) [ref = http://review.juju.solutions/review/2350]
[01:02] <marcoceppi> arosales: the logic for that might not be nessisarily bad
[01:03] <marcoceppi> do we want to weight failures higher than passes?
[01:03] <marcoceppi> esp. given the flakiness of some of the substrates
[01:03] <marcoceppi> lxc failed because of a provider problem (I restarted the tests)
[01:03] <arosales> one school of thought was that it had to pass on local and public cloud
[01:04] <marcoceppi> arosales: yes, but a failure doesn't always mean it's a charm problem
[01:04] <arosales> in this case the failure is due to timeout, most likey due to infrastructure
[01:04] <arosales> agreed
[01:04] <arosales> but charm CI doesn't tell us why it failed
[01:04] <arosales> just that it failed
[01:04] <marcoceppi> it does tell us
[01:04] <arosales> well doesn't surface up infrastructure or charm fail
[01:04] <marcoceppi> DEBUG:runner:Deployment timed out (900s)
[01:05] <arosales> sorry, I didn't state the correctly
[01:05] <marcoceppi> arosales: the output we link people to is kind of crap
[01:05] <marcoceppi> it's hard to find that
[01:05] <marcoceppi> arosales: I agree we should work to distinguish infrastructure failure vs testing failure
[01:05] <marcoceppi> but we don't have that atm
[01:05] <arosales> but to your point, is it a charm failure or a infrastructure failure
[01:05] <arosales> but regardless
[01:05] <marcoceppi> agent-state-info: lxc container cloning failed
[01:05] <marcoceppi> it was infrastructure
[01:05] <arosales> the question is when do we mark a Charm CI test as a green box, ie passing
[01:05] <marcoceppi> LXC was broken for about 20 test runs because of some weird lingering issue
[01:06] * arosales saw that in a couple of test runs
[01:06] <marcoceppi> arosales: right, and the icon says "some tests have passed" it's never a definitive. It hink we favor passing over failing given how often we have substrate issues
[01:06] <arosales> re my questions when to mark a charm CI as passing I thought it had to pass on local and a cloud
[01:06] <marcoceppi> arosales: we can reverse that logic, without problem, but it needs some discussion
[01:06] <arosales> but it seems currently it marks it as passing if it passes on just 1 cloud
[01:07] <marcoceppi> arosales: at the moment yes, I can see how the logic is confusing there
[01:07] <arosales> I think passing on 1 cloud is fair for green
[01:07] <arosales> but just wanted to confirm my understanding
[01:07] <marcoceppi> as soon as it gets one test result back we say the status, where passing > failing
[01:07] <arosales> oh
[01:07] <marcoceppi> so, it'll say "some tests are passing" for any result that comes back that's testing
[01:07] <arosales> so if it failed on 2 cloud, but passed on 1 it would be red?
[01:07] <marcoceppi> not sure
[01:08] <marcoceppi> I'm doing a terrible job of explaining this
[01:08] <arosales> sorry, I was taking you litterally on passing > failing
[01:08] <arosales> I think I follow you though
[01:08] <marcoceppi> I'm saying pass is weighted greater than failure if there's a mix result
[01:08] <marcoceppi> because of infra flakiness
[01:08] <marcoceppi> but we can easily reverse that logic where fail is if any one test has failed
[01:08] <marcoceppi> I've got to catch a plane so I need to EOD and pack, but we can chat more on Monday
[01:09] <marcoceppi> the new review queue will be a bit better at explaining this
[01:09] <marcoceppi> by just showing the numerical result
[01:09] <marcoceppi> X pass / Y fail
[01:09] <marcoceppi> explicit :)
[01:13] <arosales> I like the weight on passing
[01:14] <arosales> later marcoceppi, travel safely
[01:20] <blahdeblah> marcoceppi: Pushed fix to that MP; does it retry testing automatically?
[06:32] <aisrael> Anyone had problems with juju under wily not starting?
[21:16] <aatchison> i
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[01:05] <xubuntu51w> When I suspend my laptop and close the lid, it always overheats and the battery drains quickly. Anyone have an explanation for this? I'm on 15.04.
[01:06] <xubuntu51w> How can I optimize the power consumption (aside from making changes to the power settings in the settings panel). Could it be that my hardware isn't efficient with the OS?
[06:21] <steven___> woow lots of people here tinite.
[15:13] <xubuntu45w> hi
[15:13] <xubuntu45w> how is every thing?
[16:47] <PhilGEE> things are good
[18:02] <naknomik> Hello! Just installed Xubuntu in a VM. It's great, fast! How do I map the 'Windows' key to open the Whisker Menu?
[18:03] <mrkramps> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/keyboard
[18:05] <naknomik> mrkramps: Is Whisker Menu a command?
[18:05] <mrkramps> sry, `xfce4-popup-whiskermenu`
[18:08] <naknomik> mrkramps: Thanks.
[18:08] <mrkramps> you're welcome!
[18:09] <xubuntu53w> Is there a tool that will let me change the system-wide fixed-width font?
[18:09] <mrkramps> xubuntu53w, i guess no
[18:10] <mrkramps> if you talk about terminals and texteditors it is all a per application setting
[18:10] <xubuntu53w> Thanks
[18:11] <mrkramps> xubuntu53w, or are you talking about the monospace alias from the font cache?
[18:13] <xubuntu53w> I'm not entirely sure. but I'm guessing it's that. Think like in mousepad, where the default is 'use system monospace font'.
[18:16] <mrkramps> xubuntu53w, that is a bit more tricky
[18:16] <mrkramps> gimme amoment to check it out
[18:18] <xubuntu53w> thanks
[18:25] <mrkramps> xubuntu53w, http://www.techytalk.info/change-serif-sans-serif-monospace-generic-font-families-mapping-linux-operating-system/
[18:26] <xubuntu53w> thanks for the help. i'll take a look. :)
[18:28] <xubuntu53w> I think i remember having seen this before. Thanks again, mrkramps .
[19:18] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Hi, I need help with mounting a disk... nothing GUI works anymore. "Failed to mount 'x GB Volume' /n Not authorized to perform operation"
[19:55] <hexhaxtron> Hi! I got a fresh install of Xubuntu 15.10. However, it's missing packages like pcsxr, teamviewer and rssowl... Should I add something else to sources.list?
[19:58] <Unit193> I've heard of one of those, teamviewer, which is proprietary and a wine packaged program. http://bugs.debian.org/346541 there's that too. :P
[20:03] <hexhaxtron> Unit193, is there a source with all those missing packages?
[20:03] <Unit193> I wouldn't know, except that you can download the wine bundled teamviewer from their site.
[20:25] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Hi, I need help with mounting a disk... nothing GUI works anymore. "Failed to mount 'x GB Volume' /n Not authorized to perform operation"
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[00:02] <sebsebseb> bbc 2 just got intterupted a little while ago with the news
[00:03] <sebsebseb> was showing some rubbish thing or whatever that was anyway, wasn't really watching it
[00:04] <zleap> with any luck our dopey EU MP's will now actually ACT
[00:04] <sebsebseb> zleap: by doing what?
[00:05] <zleap> maybe agree on how to stabalise syria
[00:05] <sebsebseb> zleap: ok, but did you see the other news about syria etc?
[00:05] <zleap> not sure
[00:06] <zleap> but there is a plan by russia that involves some sort of transition of power in syria and elections
[00:06] <zleap> so maybe we need to act and decide exactly what strategy we want
[00:06] <zleap> imposing OUR idea of a leader has failed multiple times,
[00:10] <zleap> sebsebseb: no idea what the answer is, but surely it involves all parties working together for a solution, keep pouring arms in to the area is failing IS are getting hold of US anti tank weapons
[00:17] <zleap> sebsebseb: anyway i am off, lets see what is in the news tomorrow, so far france has a state of emergency and all borders are closed
[10:30] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:38] <popey> yo
[10:39] <brobostigon> morning popey
[10:40] <brobostigon> i noticed something interesting at the jc the other day, they seem to be using an ubuntu/canonical version of firefox on their client machines.
[18:20] * p42phone waits for a bus that's about 10m away but traffic is stationary
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-de
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[14:04] <gugaua> Hallo, ich hab anscheinend etwas unabsichtlich auf meinen ubuntu server 14.04 verstellt... er zeigt mir statt "ä, ö, ü" nur mehr "_" an. kann mit jemand sagen was man da zurückstellen muss?
[15:08] <gugaua> Hallo, ich kann bei meinen Ubuntu Server 14.04 seit gestern keine Sonderzeichen ä ö ü mehr eingeben. Ich weiß nicht genau was passiert ist. Kann mir jemand helfen?
[15:14] <gugaua> Was ich festgestellt habe ist, das beim Kommando Locale überall posix angezeigt wird
[15:15] <mrkramps> gugaua, wie graufst du auf den server zu?
[15:17] <gugaua> mrkramps: mit Putty
[15:17] <gugaua> in putty hab ich UTF-8 eingestellt
[15:18] <mrkramps> kannst mal den inhalt der datei /etc/default/keyboard in einem nopaste zeigen
[15:18] <gugaua> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13261284/
[15:19] <mrkramps> gugaua, änder doch mal XKBLAYOUT von us auf de
[15:20] <mrkramps> anschließend ein `setupcon -k`
[15:21] <gugaua> We are not on the Linux console, the console is left unconfigured...... geht wohl über putty nicht
[15:22] <mrkramps> im zweifelsfall wäre dann ein neustart notwendig
[15:24] <gugaua> gemacht
[15:24] <gugaua> hat aber nichts gebracht
[15:24] <gugaua> wenn ich ö drücke kommt (arg: 6)
[15:25] <gugaua> bei ü kommt irgendein random kommando das ich irgendwann einmal durchgeführt habe
[15:25] <gugaua> und bei locale steht wieder überall posix
[15:27] <mrkramps> gugaua, `locale -a`
[15:27] <gugaua> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13261419/
[15:28] <gugaua> logischer weise versuche ich de-de zu benutzen
[15:28] <mrkramps> `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale`
[15:29] <gugaua> l
[15:29] <gugaua> .. /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locale is not installed
[15:29] <mrkramps> sry
[15:29] <mrkramps> `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales`
[15:29] <mrkramps> da ist mir ein 's' verloren gegangen
[15:29] <gugaua> kann passieren :)
[15:30] <gugaua> ok generation complete
[15:31] <gugaua> update-locale LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[15:31] <gugaua> ?
[15:32] <mrkramps> scheiße, der befehl funktioniert unter ubuntu nicht
[15:32] <mrkramps> gugaua, du musst die locales in /etc/default/locale von hand eintragen
[15:33] <gugaua> ok!
[15:33] <gugaua> da steht es richtig drinnen
[15:33] <gugaua> Das ist der Eintrag LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[15:36] <gugaua> Die Ausgabe von Locale gibt überall POSIX aus
[15:36] <gugaua> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13261617/
[15:45] <mrkramps> gugaua, hast du PAM deaktiviert in deinem SSH server?
[15:46] <Rochvellon> gnah, mein rechner wacht aus dem s2r nicht mehr nach einem kernel-downgrade richtig auf :/
[15:47] <gugaua> UsePAM no
[15:47] <gugaua> Das hab ich verwendet um die Passwort authentifizierung zu deaktivieren zusammen mit allow passwords
[15:48] <gugaua> PasswordAuthentication no
[15:48] <gugaua> mrkramps: hat das was damit zu tun?
[15:50] <mrkramps> gugaua, kannst du das mal testweise wieder aktivieren
[15:50] <mrkramps> möglicher zusammenhang besteht
[15:50] <gugaua> ja!
[15:51] <gugaua> BINGO
[15:51] <gugaua> Den Zusammenhang verstehe ich nicht aber jetzt geht es wieder, sehr interessant
[15:54] <mrkramps> gugaua, PAM ist zwar auch für die Passwortauthentifizierung notwendig (ohne ist die meines wissens nach nicht deaktiviert, sondern funktioniert eben nicht)
[15:54] <mrkramps> PAM ist umfasst aber auch teile der sitzungsverwaltung
[15:55] <gugaua> Dann lass ich PAM an, dann hab ich ein Problem weniger da ich ja sowieso mit PasswordAuthentication no die authentifizierung via passwort verweigere
[15:56] <mrkramps> wenn du PAM nicht verwenden möchtest, kannst du noch für den benutzer auf dem host die locale explizit definieren
[15:56] <mrkramps> in ~/.profile oder ~/.bashrc
[16:02] <mrkramps> gugaua, um ehrlich zu sein, kann ich nicht einschätzen wie sicherheitskritisch welche einstellung für sshd ist
[16:02] <mrkramps> ggf. solltest du dich in diesem zusammenhang nochmal geneuer informieren
[16:02] <gugaua> mrkramps: okay, aber damit bin ich schon mal au fjeden fall zufrieden... Danke für die Hilfe :)
[16:02] <mrkramps> dafür nicht!
[16:02] <gugaua> mrkramps: Ich werd noch schauen wofür PAM genau da ist
[17:30] <Rochvellon> und wo finde ich jetzt die menu.lst?
[17:35] <ring0> Rochvellon, hast kein grub2?
[17:35] <Rochvellon> doch
[17:35] <Rochvellon> nur ich finde die nimmer mehr
[17:35] <ring0> wozu brauchst du sie?
[17:36] <Rochvellon> ach, da hatte ich mal einen eintrag gemacht, den ich mir jetzt sichern möchte
[17:36] <ring0> ah
[17:36] <dasjoe> grub2 hat keine menu.lst mehr, sondern grub.cfg
[17:37] <Rochvellon> und grub.cfg ist alles andere als lesbar :/
[17:37] <dasjoe> Richtig, die wird automatishc generiert. Siehe /etc/grub.d und /etc/default/grub
[17:37] <ring0> darin wirst du aber suchen müssen :)
[17:39] <Rochvellon> und dort finde ich auch nur unlesbare daten, nur nicht das, was ich suche ...
[18:44] <Erzi> Hallo Froinde
[18:44] <Erzi> Ich hab mal ne Frage bzgl. USB
[18:45] <mrkramps> Erzi, dann frag :)
[18:45] <Erzi> Wenn man 2 externe HDD per USB 3 am Rechner angeschlossen hat und dann Daten von HDD1 zu HDD2 kopiert wird mein System extrem langsam
[18:45] <Erzi> Ist das normal?
[18:46] <Erzi> Oder ist da etwas falsch eingestellt?
[18:46] <Erzi> Braucht das irgendwie extrem CPU Leistung?
[18:46] <mrkramps> wie definierst du "langsam"?
[18:46] <Erzi> na man merkts wenn man die Maus bewegen will
[18:46] <Erzi> oder so
[18:47] <Erzi> oder liegts daran das diese logischerweise auch ueber USB angeschlossen ist.
[18:47] <mrkramps> du meinst die maus, die auch am völlig ausgelasteten USB-controller hängt?
[18:47] <Erzi> hmm.
[18:47] <Erzi> Bloed
[18:47] <Erzi> Weiss ned ob es ein und derselbe ist.
[18:47] <mrkramps> aber ich gebe zu, dass ich gerade auch nur rate
[18:47] <Erzi> Maus haengt an USB2 die HDDs an USB3
[18:47] <_moep_> Erzi: guck dsoch mal beim testen auf den load
[18:48] <Erzi> _moep_: wie macht man das?
[18:48] <mrkramps> einfach mal top/htop im terminal oder halt die grafische systemüberwachung laufen lassen
[18:48] <_moep_> mach ne shell auf und tipp uptime ein
[18:48] <Erzi> ksysguard?
[18:48] <_moep_> mit htop kannst du dann gut sehen, was gerade viel cpu frisst
[18:49] <Erzi> muss ich erstmal installieren ;)
[18:49] <Erzi> hab ich gerade bemerkt
[18:49] <mrkramps> htop ist nicht vorinstalliert, aber sollte man haben
[18:49] <Erzi> Muss ich bei naechster Gelegenheit mal machen
[18:49] <Erzi> also installiert isses jetzt
[18:50] <Erzi> aber hab gerade nix zum kopieren, werde ich demnaechst aber mal schauen
[18:50] <Erzi> 1 - 8 ?
[18:50] <Erzi> Hab ich ned blos 4 Kerne im I7
[18:50] <mrkramps> 4 kerne mit jeweils 2 threads
[18:51] <Erzi> aha Hyperthreading
[18:51] <Erzi> deswegen
[18:51] <Erzi> boah mein Chrome nimmt gleich mal 70% CPU
[18:51] <mrkramps> obwohl du da nochmal sicher gehen solltest
[18:52] <mrkramps> i7 gibt es auch als octa core
[18:52] <Erzi> nee, hab ich ned mrkramps
[18:52] <Erzi> Ist noch ein aelteres Modell
[18:52] <mrkramps> =)
[18:52] <Erzi> 2600K
[18:52] <Erzi> Was meinst du mit sicher gehen mrkramps ?
[18:53] <mrkramps> Erzi, nur dass du nicht vielleicht doch 8 kerne hast … aber das haben wir ja geklärt ;)
[18:53] <Erzi> nee, bin mir schon recht sicher das der nur 4 hat
[18:53] <mrkramps> nur mal im ernst … einen quad core mit einem kopiervorgang auslasten?
[18:55] <Erzi> Ich weiss eben nicht was das ist
[18:55] <Erzi> Darum frag ich eben
[18:55] <Erzi> merk halt wie alles langsamer geht
[18:56] <Erzi> So laeufts schoen fluessig und dann ploetzlich voll die lags
[18:56] <Erzi> Das macht mich halt auch stutzig
[18:56] <Erzi> Vermute eben das mein USB-Hub im Rechner da irgendwie ned so arbeitet wie er soll
[18:57] <Erzi> Oder USB-Host Controller, oder wie auch immer das Ding da genannt wird.
[18:57] <Erzi> USB Root Hub
[18:57] <Erzi> da gibts ja viele verschiedene Bezeichnungen
[18:58] <ring0> guck wenn es ruckelt in top/htop nach, was da los ist. sonst sind alles nur vermutungen
[18:58] <Erzi> Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[18:58] <Erzi> jop, danke fuer eure Hinweise, werde ich auf jeden Fall mal machen
[18:58] <mrkramps> Erzi, du könntest neben htop auch syslog mitlaufen lassen
[18:59] <mrkramps> da wären dann ggf. noch weitere meldungen die auf fehlverhalten hinweisen drin
[18:59] <ring0> kannst mit iotop auch noch die lese-/schreibvorgänge überprüfen
[18:59] <mrkramps> hm, da gehen normalerweise so 4 terminals auf einen monitor
[19:00] <mrkramps> also was könnte er noch laufen lassen?
[19:00] <mrkramps> ^^
[19:00] <ring0> :)
[19:01] <Erzi> ok
[19:01] <Erzi> iotop hab ich auch mal installiert
[19:01] <Erzi> Platz hab ich auf meinem Bildschirm
[19:01] <mrkramps> für syslog kann man sehr schön lnav verwenden
[19:01] <Erzi> ;)
[21:27] <Kratze> Hi, kann mir jemand sagen, ob und wie man das Touchpad vom Laptop von zwei Finger Gestenerkennung auf 1 Finger umstellen kann? ich blicke in der man page von touchpad treiber nicht durch. "man synaptics"
[21:31] <mrkramps> Kratze, nopaste mal die ausgabe von `synclient --l`
[21:33] <Kratze> synclient: invalid option -- '-
[21:33] <mrkramps> sry, `synclient -l`
[21:34] <Kratze> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13269281/
[21:36] <mrkramps> Kratze, und was genau muss jetzt umgestellt werden?
[21:36] <Kratze> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13269319/
[21:36] <Kratze> so mit aktivierten touchpad
[21:37] <mrkramps> kannst du mit diese "gestenerkennung" kurz genauer beschreiben?
[21:37] <mrkramps> --mit ++mir
[21:39] <Kratze> Mich nervt es mit den erkennen von zwei Fingern, ich komme damit nicht zurecht. Wenn ich einen Finger auf dem Touchpad habe geht es, sobald der zweite drauf ist spring der Curser hin und her und beim Thinkpad x220 ist es leider der Fall, dass das Touchpad bis auf den Maustasten ist
[21:40] <kirsten> Hallo, ich habe meine gid und uid an mein Synology wie folgt angepasst: 1. sudo usermod -u 1026 -g 100 kirsten 2. sudo find / -user 1000 -exec chown 1026 {} \; 3. sudo find / -group 1000 -exec chgrp 100 {} \; So, ich kann jetzt wunderbar auf mein NAS zugreifen. ABER: wenn ich einen USB Stick reinstecke, kann ich nichts drauf schreiben: Der angegebene Ort ist kein Ordner. Erst wenn ich caja mit sudo öffne, kann ich etwas auf den
[21:40] <Kratze> Sprich ich navigiere mit der maus irgendwo hin und will klicken ---> Zack springt der Curser zu einer andern Position
[21:40] <mrkramps> Kratze, hast doch noch zwei tasten darüber =P
[21:41] <mrkramps> ich schau gerade, was da weg müsste
[21:42] <Kratze> Die zwei Tasten + Nubsi sind auch wunderbar wenn man so damit arbeitet aber wenn man mal gemütlich auf der Couch oder im Bett damit was macht bevorzuge ich das Touchpad
[21:43] <kirsten> hat jemand eine idee, wo das Problem sein könnte, und was ich machen muss, damit meine USB Sticks wieder normal eingebunden werden?
[21:43] <mrkramps> Kratze, ich glaube ClickFinger1 und ClickFinger2 sind dein problem
[21:44] <mrkramps> Kratze, teste mal mit `synclient ClickFigner1=0 ClickFinger2=0`
[21:44] <mrkramps> sry, schon wieder vertippt
[21:44] <mrkramps> Kratze, teste mal mit `synclient ClickFinger1=0 ClickFinger2=0`
[21:46] <Kratze> leidewr nicht
[21:47] <Kratze> müssen denn beide auf 0
[21:47] <mrkramps> eh, nö … natürlich nicht :S
[21:47] <mrkramps> Kratze, teste mal mit `synclient ClickFinger1=1 ClickFinger2=0`
[21:50] <mrkramps> Kratze, alternativ `synclient TapButton1=1 TapButton2=0 TapButton3=0`
[21:50] <Kratze> ahh schon besser aber immer noch nicht perfekt, der curser spring nicht mer so schnell, jetzt muss es doch nur noch die Möglich keit geben zu definieren, dass der untere cm am Touch nicht mehr funktioniert :-)
[21:52] <mrkramps> Kratze, da kannst du mal mit den *Edge parametern spielen
[21:52] <mrkramps> und schon mal zur vorwarnung, das ist alles nur zum testen und hält keinen neustart des Xservers ;)
[21:53] <Kratze> Danke schonmal, werde dann mal testen, funktioniert aufjeden fall schon viel besser
[21:53] <Kratze> shit
[21:54] <Kratze> wo kann ichs fest einstellen?
[21:55] <Kratze> also die befehle die ich mit synclient gemacht habe
[21:55] <mrkramps> Kratze, entweder den synclient befehl in den autostart oder durch konfiguration in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ gemäß https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/touchpad
[21:56] <Kratze> ok danke
[21:57] <Kratze> hast du ein bitcoin walled
[21:59] <mrkramps> gern geschehen und nein
[22:00] <Kratze> schade sonnst hätte ich dir eben einen kleinen Obolus überwiesen
[22:01] <Kratze> Ich test dann mal etwas weiter, wenn das eh keinen Neustart aushält kann ich ja nicht viel kaputt machen
[22:01] <Kratze> Bin dann mal weg, danke und einen schönen Abend euch noch
[22:04] <blaaa> hi
[22:11] <blaaa> hmm
[22:14] <mrkramps> blaaa, hast du eine frage?
[22:18] <blaaa> ja
[22:19] <blaaa> ubuntu server 15.04 ohne GUI, auf Intel NUC, Rechner geht nach ca. 1h in standby (S3) , wo kann ich diese Zeit einstellen?
[22:23] <mrkramps> das ist eine gute frage
[22:25] <blaaa> im BIOS habe ich jedenfalls nichts dazu gefunden
[22:25] <mrkramps> bios ist hier auch nicht der richtige ort
[22:25] <blaaa> wenn es im GUI (Energieeinstellungen) geht, muss das doch auch auf Kommandozeile möglich sein?
[22:26] <mrkramps> ich suche schon
[22:29] <mrkramps> blaaa, sollte evtl. mit einer änderung in /etc/systemd/logind.conf getan sein
[22:30] <mrkramps> blaaa, schau mal, ob dort was zum thema "idle" zu finden ist
[22:30] <blaaa> jaaa, idleActionsec=100min
[22:30] <blaaa> das muss es sein, super
[22:31] <mrkramps> und IdleAction=suspend?
[22:31] <mrkramps> und beides nicht auskommentiert?
[22:32] <blaaa> genau, das muss ich damals nach installation eingestellt haben
[22:32] <blaaa> hattes es nur vergessen
[22:34] <mrkramps> ok, sehr gut … dann funktioniert es ja auch =D
[22:34] <blaaa> ja, nochmal danke
[22:37] <mrkramps> blaaa, nicht dafür!
[22:37] <blaaa> :-)
[22:41] <Lembert> Hallo, kennt jemand einen sftp Client mit welchem man rekursiv einen Haufen Dateien von einem ssh Server ziehen kann?
[22:42] <guntbert> Lembert: bei "ein haufen dateien" denk ich immer an tar
[22:43] <blaaa> ciao all and thx for help ...
[22:45] <Lembert> tar ist in meinem Fall ungeeignet
[22:55] <frostschutz> Lembert, lftp und dort den mirror befehl?
[22:55] <frostschutz> ach, ssh server
[22:59] <Lembert> jep ssh
[23:01] <frostschutz> bei kopien über ssh nehme ich immer rsync
[23:01] <Lembert> hab vorhin entdeckt, dass es beim midnight commander eine Funktion namens shell link gibt, aber nach der Eingabe der Zugangsdaten hängt der sich mit einem "fish: Waiting for initial line..." auf ohne dass die erwartete Pw Eingabe angefordert wird
[23:03] <frostschutz> Lembert, lftp unterstützt aber auch sftp (open sftp://user@host), das ist halt fürs Terminal, hast du einen grafischen Client gesucht?
[23:05] <Lembert> pseudo grafisch im terminal wär auf die dauer toll, aber notfalls tuts am anfang auch nur terminal
[23:09] <frostschutz> mit dem mitnicht kommando kenne ich mich leider nicht aus
[23:56] <Erzi> Noch jemand wach?
[23:56] <Erzi> Was kann ich nehmen um auf nen DLNA Server zuzugreifen.
[23:57] <mrkramps> Erzi, vlc bspw.
[23:58] <Erzi> Gibts auch ne art Browser?
[23:58] <Erzi> Damit man sich die Verzeichnisse anschauen kann
[23:58] <Erzi> In VLC scheine ich explizit die Adresse zum File zu gebrauchen
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.068061
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"Erzi",
"Kratze",
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"dasjoe",
"frostschutz",
"gugaua",
"guntbert",
"kirsten",
"mrkramps",
"ring0"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-de"
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2015-11-14-#cloud-init
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[02:03] <spandhe> hi folks, is this the correct repo for latest cloudinit code? https://github.com/openstack/cloud-init
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.072644
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"spandhe"
],
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"channel": "#cloud-init"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:39] <HaikuUser> hi... i wish ubuntu was more famous
[17:10] <Guest58677> wats +5519994589853 hacking
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.073945
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Guest58677",
"HaikuUser"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-meeting"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-gnome
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[03:23] <jrseliga> Installed a clean version of 15.10, ran dist-upgrade, installed gnome 3.18. After a restart I am able to connect to WiFi however I don't have internet access
[03:24] <jrseliga> I'm on a Live USB right now connected to the same network
[03:24] <jrseliga> Any ideas
[03:47] <bcx> Hi is it possible to get back icons on nautilus right-click menus on 3.18?
[03:47] <bcx> org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides {'Gtk/MenuImages': <1>} doesn't work anymore, any idea ?
[09:08] <darkxst> ricotz, I just landed a rather large backport to wily/staging, hope it didnt break much ;)
[09:13] <darkxst> atleast it didnt break my laptop
[09:13] <darkxst> ;)
[12:24] <ricotz> darkxst, if everything is built in the correct order ;)
[12:24] <ricotz> darkxst, btw I noticed the "XDG_SESSION_CLASS" is set
[23:17] <darkxst> ricotz, yes they built in the correct order
[23:18] <darkxst> where is XDG_SESSION_CLASS set?
[23:23] <ricotz> darkxst, I would assume gdm is suppose to
[23:25] <ricotz> sorry, need to get some sleep
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"bcx",
"darkxst",
"jrseliga",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gnome"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-server
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[00:40] <paule32> hello
[00:40] <paule32> someone there with squid3 and mysql knowledge?
[11:30] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:01] <paule32> hello
[12:01] <paule32> some on there with take some time?
[12:02] <paule32> my custom external helper does not work
i want a custom helper, that search website in database
if it blocked, then return "ERR"
else "OK"
here the script:
http://pastebin.com/p1zAkhDQ
and here the config:
http://pastebin.com/kE3kbVGT
this is log output:
kid1| helperHandleRead: unexpected read from blockscript #Hlpr0, 3 bytes 'ERR'
[12:14] <lordievader> paule32: It would probably help you to output the actual error instead of 'ERR'.
[12:14] <paule32> read from blockscript #Hlpr0, 3 bytes
[12:16] <lordievader> What I mean is if it errors you don't know if $row[2] was equal to one or if $rec was less than one. When trying to debug something you want as much (relevant) information as possible.
[12:18] <paule32> $row[0] ::= id
[12:19] <paule32> $row[1] ::= name (of url)
[12:19] <paule32> $row[2] ::= blocked (0 || 1)
[12:22] <lordievader> I guess this is very specific to Squid, perhaps it is a good idea to ask around in #squid.
[12:23] <paule32> there sill noise
[12:23] <paule32> in the docs stands - return ERR or OK
[12:24] <paule32> the funny thing on this stroy is, i can run the script under console without exceptions
[12:24] <paule32> i can enter so long as i want
[12:24] <paule32> cancel with ctrl+c
[12:26] <lordievader> Likely due to a completely different environment.
[16:24] <mrtAkdeniz> Hey there
[16:24] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys I'm trying to create ftp server
[16:24] <mrtAkdeniz> and I need to use a user who own /var/www/username
[16:25] <mrtAkdeniz> i can do it with adduser command
[16:25] <mrtAkdeniz> but my problem is that
[16:25] <mrtAkdeniz> whenever this user upload a file to there, www-data will say "it is forbidden for me"
[16:25] <mrtAkdeniz> how can I set default chown or chmod for that directory?
[16:28] <Sling> mrtAkdeniz: you should make sure the files are owned by a group where both www-data and the user uploading files are member
[16:28] <mrtAkdeniz> so I need to add that user to www-data?
[16:28] <Sling> no
[16:28] <mrtAkdeniz> and set chmod 775 ?
[16:28] <Sling> no
[16:28] <Sling> create a new group, add the www-data user and this ftp user to it
[16:29] <Sling> then make the user the owner of all these files + folders, and make the shared group the group owner
[16:29] <Sling> then set 750 for folders and 640 for files
[16:29] <mrtAkdeniz> like chown ftpuser:createdgroup ?
[16:29] <Sling> sure
[16:29] <mrtAkdeniz> thanks Sling
[16:30] <Sling> that way the httpd has only read rights to the content
[16:30] <mrtAkdeniz> hmm
[16:30] <Sling> and the user also doesn't have more permissions than he/she needs
[16:30] <mrtAkdeniz> but sometimes httpd need to write?
[16:30] <mrtAkdeniz> like logs, io based caching etc?
[16:30] <Sling> those would be exceptions
[16:30] <Sling> usually they would be in separate filesystem locations than the regular content
[16:31] <mrtAkdeniz> actually nope, at least in my framework :\
[16:31] <mrtAkdeniz> web content are in public folder
[16:31] <mrtAkdeniz> but logs, sessions, caches etc are in the storage folder
[16:32] <mrtAkdeniz> storage and public need to be at the same level
[16:32] <mrtAkdeniz> i mean
[16:32] <mrtAkdeniz> - storage, -public, --index.html, -var
[16:44] <mrtAkdeniz> thank you Sling ^^
[17:55] <mrtAkdeniz> Hey there again!
[17:57] <mrtAkdeniz> I installed postfix and dovecot on my server, everything works well, I can read and sent mails from roundcube
[17:58] <mrtAkdeniz> But I can not make smtp configuration for thunderbird or android app
[17:58] <mrtAkdeniz> If I choose another SMTP and make IMAP conf. it works well
[17:58] <mrtAkdeniz> but when I try to do smtp configuration, it fails
[17:58] <mrtAkdeniz> postfix channel says, it is not releated to postfix
[17:59] <TJ-> mrtAkdeniz: does the mail server have confirmed external access for *receiving* email?
[17:59] <TJ-> mrtAkdeniz: are there firewall rules preventing connections.
[17:59] <mrtAkdeniz> there is no firewall on the server
[18:00] <mrtAkdeniz> and there is no problem about receiving :\
[18:00] <mrtAkdeniz> If I choose another smtp, i can get my mails on thunderbird
[18:00] <mrtAkdeniz> if I get your point correct..
[18:01] <mrtAkdeniz> TJ-, yeah I checked the meaning of receiving -lack of English, sorry-; and has no problem with receiving
[18:01] <mrtAkdeniz> but SMTP configuration
[18:03] <TJ-> mrtAkdeniz: for a mail client to be able to send mail over SMTP, the SMTP server (postfix) probably needs to authenticate the client otherwise you'd have an open spam-relay.
[18:03] <TJ-> mrtAkdeniz: if IMAP4 connections to dovecot also don't work that points to a common issue, which is why I mention the firewall. If firewall isn't the issue, look at the postfix (/var/log/mail.log) and dovecot (/var/log/dovecot.log) logs
[18:06] <mrtAkdeniz> TJ-, there is no log for dovecot, and it is what I all have -> http://pastie.org/private/4vjpvxbbob4imgoljx29w
[18:06] <mrtAkdeniz> I think my free ssl certificate forbidden by thunderbird
[18:06] <mrtAkdeniz> but I search for it, and tell thunderbird to skip ssl cert check
[18:06] <mrtAkdeniz> it is still failing..
[18:07] <stochastix> I am going to scp a website over to ubuntu 14.04, do I want to use scp -pr to preserve as much as i can for permissions? I may have to reown the files anyway though
[18:14] <stochastix> well, guess ill find out soon enough.
[18:20] <_KaszpiR_> anyone knows what is retention time for AWS AMI with Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS daily builds?
[19:19] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys
[19:19] <mrtAkdeniz> I'm buying SSL certificate
[19:19] <mrtAkdeniz> and I'll use it for mail also
[19:19] <mrtAkdeniz> and my mail server is on mail.mydomain.com
[19:20] <mrtAkdeniz> do I need to buy it for mail.mydomain or mydomain.com
[19:26] <paule32> hello
[19:27] <paule32> have problem with squid3 for linux
[19:27] <paule32> http://pastebin.com/HXB63yyh
[19:32] <_KaszpiR_> looks like your /sap/squid/block.sh sucks in producting proper output
[19:33] <paule32> yes, because ERR\n0
[19:33] <paule32> \0OK
[19:36] <paule32> any ideas?
[19:38] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[19:38] <mahdi_ja> i study about parallel programming in julia and get this statement.
[19:38] <mahdi_ja> The base Julia installation has in-built support for two types of clusters:
[19:38] <mahdi_ja> A local cluster specified with the -p option as shown above.
[19:38] <mahdi_ja> A cluster spanning machines using the --machinefile option. This uses a passwordless ssh login to start julia worker processes (from the same path as the current host) on the specified machines.
[19:39] <mahdi_ja> i want know what is cluster spanning and how i can create this in ubuntu
[19:39] <mahdi_ja> thank 's for your help
[19:40] <Sling> mahdi_ja: you should ask in #julia probably
[19:40] <Sling> this is not something ubuntu-specific
[19:40] <mahdi_ja> Sling, yes, but what is spanning cluster i do not find anythings about this
[19:41] <lordievader> mahdi_ja: Probably multiple nodes running on different machines.
[19:42] <lordievader> Wouldn't be surprised if it uses a mpich like technology underneath: https://www.mpich.org/
[19:55] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys I need help
[19:55] <mrtAkdeniz> I'm trying to open ports
[19:55] <mrtAkdeniz> and I don't have ufw enable
[19:55] <mrtAkdeniz> I'm using sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 587 -j ACCEPT
[19:55] <paule32> flush the firewall
[19:55] <mrtAkdeniz> but telnet localhost 587 still returning error
[19:55] <RoyK> mrtAkdeniz: why not ufw?
[19:55] <mrtAkdeniz> paule32, i have ufw disabled
[19:56] <paule32> iptables -t nat -L
[19:56] <paule32> ?
[19:56] <mrtAkdeniz> RoyK, because I don't want
[19:56] <RoyK> mrtAkdeniz: pastebin output of "iptables-save"
[19:57] <mrtAkdeniz> RoyK, http://pastie.org/private/xptz3rt4jdxjxfxxzl5irq
[19:58] <mrtAkdeniz> it is just pathetic, my localhost refusing my connection.
[19:58] <lordievader> mrtAkdeniz: Is there anything listening to those ports?
[19:58] <mrtAkdeniz> lordievader, I've postfix and dovecot installed
[19:58] <mrtAkdeniz> and i think they are listening
[19:58] <RoyK> mrtAkdeniz: all accepted there - nothing is blocking
[19:58] <lordievader> mrtAkdeniz: netstat -tulpn|grep <those ports>
[19:58] <mrtAkdeniz> lordievader, both returned empty
[19:59] <lordievader> So nothing is listening.
[19:59] <mrtAkdeniz> damn
[20:00] <Sling> (try it with sudo if you're not root)
[20:00] <mrtAkdeniz> I'm root :\
[20:01] <RoyK> mrtAkdeniz: it's not a firewall issue
[20:01] <RoyK> mrtAkdeniz: nothing is blocked in that iptables setup
[20:01] <mrtAkdeniz> RoyK, yeah I got it :\
[20:01] <mrtAkdeniz> it is postfix issue
[20:01] <RoyK> mrtAkdeniz: the allow lines have no effect, since -P ACCEPT is on
[20:02] <RoyK> mrtAkdeniz: I'd recommend using ufw until you get familiar with the iptables (or next, nftables) rules
[20:02] <mrtAkdeniz> when I enable ufw, even my 80 port blocked
[20:02] <mrtAkdeniz> and I had "ufw enable 80" and rebooted..
[20:03] <RoyK> no
[20:03] <RoyK> ufw allow http
[20:03] <RoyK> ufw allow ssh
[20:03] <RoyK> ufw enable
[20:03] <mrtAkdeniz> not enable sorry
[20:03] <mrtAkdeniz> allow 80
[20:03] <RoyK> just use http
[20:03] <mrtAkdeniz> but I need to open other ports
[20:03] <RoyK> first iptables -F
[20:03] <mrtAkdeniz> like 21, 25 etc
[20:04] <RoyK> 21? are you (ab)using ftp?
[20:04] <mrtAkdeniz> and I have 81 port which is another webserver
[20:04] <mrtAkdeniz> yeah RoyK
[20:04] <RoyK> just ufw allow 'whateverprotocol'
[20:04] <RoyK> it's simple
[20:04] <mrtAkdeniz> ufw allow 81?
[20:04] <RoyK> ufw allow 81/tcp
[20:04] <mrtAkdeniz> hmm
[20:04] <mrtAkdeniz> let me try it
[20:05] <RoyK> flush iptables first
[20:05] <RoyK> *first*
[20:05] <RoyK> because custom rules and ufw may interfere
[20:05] <mrtAkdeniz> ok
[20:05] <mrtAkdeniz> iptables -F right?
[20:06] <RoyK> mhm
[20:07] <RoyK> then this: ufw allow ssh; ufw allow http; ufw allow 81/tcp; ufw allow ftp # the latter if you're stupid enough to use FTP in production
[20:09] <RoyK> the thing about FTP is, it uses different ports for control and data, which is a bad idea with NATed machines
[20:09] <RoyK> it works, however, with protocol helpers
[20:09] <RoyK> but then, if you try to do something smart, as in encrypting the data, the router can't see which ports to forward, and FTP just won't work
[20:10] <RoyK> use SFTP instead
[20:14] <MACscr> is there a channel for LXD?
[20:28] <TJ-> there's #lxcontainers and #lxc-devel
[20:36] <MACscr> yep, just noticed that its just the regular LXC channel. Wasnt sure if there was one specific to LXD.
[20:42] <tonymke> I am struggling to get sshd's AuthorizedCommandKeys bit to work successfully
[20:42] <tonymke> made a script that literally just curl my github keys to stdout
[20:42] <tonymke> can't actually auth from results
[20:45] <tonymke> Anyone see anything painfully wrong? http://i.imgur.com/cO2P7eq.png
[20:50] <TJ-> What is this "AuthorizedCommandKeys"
[20:51] <tonymke> TJ-: this - https://gist.github.com/sivel/c68f601137ef9063efd7
[20:51] <tonymke> supposedly a command you can tell sshd to run to get an alternative authorized_keys set before checking each user's home directory
[20:51] <tonymke> trying to use it as a simple way to not have to update authorized_keys files across vms
[20:53] <TJ-> tonymke: it's "AuthorizedKeysCommand"
[20:55] <tonymke> that's what's in the sshd config
[20:55] <tonymke> so that's not it
[20:55] <tonymke> just a typo in here
[20:56] <TJ-> OK :) ... try increasing logging verbosity of sshd
[20:59] <TJ-> tonymke: you've also got "AuthorizedKeysCommandUser" configured and set to a valid user account?
[20:59] <tonymke> "unsave permissions or modes for file"
[20:59] <tonymke> alright, that's helpful
[21:01] <TJ-> The man-page does say "The program must be owned by root, not writable by group or
[21:01] <TJ-> others and specified by an absolute path
[21:02] <tonymke> yeah, it's owned by root. trying 700 perms now
[21:03] <Darkyyy> im running LAMP on ubuntu server 14.04
[21:04] <tonymke> got it
[21:04] <tonymke> wooo
[21:04] <Darkyyy> can't run a proxy script
[21:04] <Darkyyy> im getting error 500
[22:57] <paule32> hello
[22:57] <paule32> have problems with squid3.4
[22:57] <paule32> http://pastebin.com/HXB63yyh
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.082415
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"MACscr",
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"paule32",
"stochastix",
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[05:36] <bzoltan> The mako version 348 from ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu channel does not boot. Is it a known issue or I hold it wrong?
[05:54] * bzoltan figured out
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.084877
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"bzoltan"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ci-eng"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-si
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[05:50] <zdobbie> e, pa je slo vse u kurac
[07:42] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 6.km JZ od BREŽIC @14/11/2015 08:31:50 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.86+N,+15.56+E
[08:27] <CrazyLemon> http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/v-teroristicnih-napadih-v-parizu-najmanj-126-mrtvih-mrtvih-tudi-osem-napadalcev/378633
[08:27] <Pepelka> V terorističnih napadih v Parizu najmanj 126 mrtvih, mrtvih tudi osem napadalcev :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[08:27] <Pepelka> »Francosko prestolnico so sinoči pretresli teroristični napadi, kjer je bilo ubitih najmanj 126 ljudi. Predsednik Francois Hollande je razglasil izredne razmere in zaprl državne meje.«
[08:58] <pitastrudl> jutro
[08:58] <pitastrudl> sm bral CrazyLemon, kr tragično
[08:58] <pitastrudl> :/
[08:58] <pitastrudl> baje 158 potrjeno mrtvih
[09:02] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl shitload je mrtvih
[09:07] <pitastrudl> da
[09:47] <yang_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Paris_attacks
[09:47] <Pepelka> 2015 Paris attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[10:20] <Sky[x]> dan
[10:24] <pitastrudl> lp
[10:55] <msev-> zj bojo mogl evropejci it red v sirijo nardit če že američani nočjo
[13:38] <pitastrudl> ubuntu krešnil med apt upgrejdom
[13:38] <pitastrudl> rip
[13:53] <CrazyLemon> tale endomondo je fcked up
[13:54] <pitastrudl> ikr
[13:54] <pitastrudl> nared svoj app
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> naah
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> še 20km do 2.5k km \o/
[14:46] <msev-> LOL
[14:46] <msev-> CrazyLemon, raj uporablej oruxmaps
[15:32] <lynxlynxlynx> http://imgur.com/gallery/dPdNp
[15:32] <Pepelka> Sorting algorithms performed by folk dancers - Album on Imgur
[15:32] <Pepelka> »Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.«
[16:02] <netkat> lynxlynxlynx:D
[16:45] <netkat> http://dyzstudio.com/arcade-tunes-tribute/
[16:45] <Pepelka> [A.M.T] Arcade.Music.Tribute | [Dyz.Music.]
[17:22] <speed-> kaj zdaj teroristi
[17:23] <pitastrudl> "bomb has been planted"
[17:23] <speed-> ampak oni jih ne postavijo
[17:39] <zdobbie> surveillance fail
[17:39] <zdobbie> American style
[17:53] <Sky[x]> cer :)
[17:55] <pitastrudl> cer
[17:55] <zdobbie> TOP O' THE EVENING TO YA
[17:57] <pitastrudl> no
[18:04] <zdobbie> no yourself
[18:30] <zdobbie> ping
[18:30] <jabuk> zdobbie: pong
[18:30] <zdobbie> kay
[19:20] <CrazyLemon> https://slo-tech.com/novice/t658526
[19:20] <Pepelka> Tor Project: FBI plačal univerzi milijon dolarjev za vdor v Tor @ Slo-Tech
[19:20] <Pepelka> »Vodja projekta Tor je javno obtožil FBI, da so lani Univerzi Carneige Mellon (CMU) plačali milijon dolarjev za raziskave, kako razkriti identiteto uporabnikov Tora, in za praktično izvedbo takega napada na omrežje. O napadih na omrežje so poročali že lani, ko se je dogajal. Ranljivosti, ki so jih tedaj izkoristili napadalci, so potem kmalu po odkritju zakrpali. Napad se je začel januarja 2014 in je do odkritja
[19:49] <zdobbie> ooold
[19:52] <Sky[x]> Grega_: hello
[19:52] <Sky[x]> tebe pa ze dolgo nisem videl :)
[19:52] <Sky[x]> kako ?
[19:53] <CrazyLemon> ti si old zdobbie ti!!
[19:57] <zdobbie> naah
[19:58] <CrazyLemon> :(
[20:15] <Sky[x]> kaj vse folk najde :)
[20:15] <Sky[x]> https://www.fan.si/
[20:15] <Pepelka> Fan.si
[20:15] <Pepelka> »Fan engagement and monetization platform. We make mobile apps, websites and private social networks for your biggest fans.«
[20:16] <Sky[x]> tujci k majo .si domeno :)
[21:45] <netkat> zleht https://github.com/ayust/underhanded/blob/master/.bashrc o.O
[21:45] <Pepelka> underhanded/.bashrc at master · ayust/underhanded · GitHub
[21:45] <Pepelka> »The ultimate underhanded dotfiles«
[22:06] <pitastrudl> .apt libpam-fprint
[22:07] <jabuk> libpam-fprintd {trusty (14.04LTS), vivid, wily, xenial}
[22:07] <jabuk> libpam-fprint {precise (12.04LTS)}
[22:07] <pitastrudl> hm
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.102089
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"CrazyLemon",
"Pepelka",
"Sky[x]",
"jabuk",
"lynxlynxlynx",
"msev-",
"netkat",
"pitastrudl",
"speed-",
"yang_",
"zdobbie"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-si"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-africa
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[07:42] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[09:19] <inetpro> spare a thought for all our friends in Paris
[09:20] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:32] <craig__> :(
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.104353
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Kilos",
"craig__",
"inetpro"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
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2015-11-14-#edubuntu
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[05:12] <jrock> hello i am looking for some help on edubuntu
[05:14] <jrock> is there anyone in here that could help me?
[05:15] <jrock> I need help with getting edubuntu to recongnize the wireless adapter
[05:22] <jrock> is anyone here?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.108789
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"jrock"
],
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"channel": "#edubuntu"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-touch
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[16:01] <vthompson> I was wondering if anyone here has tried to move to the new Ubuntu.Components v1.3 and have had to work around issues with the header actions seemingly enable/disable at times. It is causing issues with the Music app moving to the new components in that a PageHeadState with a TextField as its contents also gets disabled, causing the OSK to disappear and reappear. I have a bug filed against Music for it: bug #1514143
[16:15] <Spacedawgg_ie> hi my new ubuntu handset started displaying 'no sim', I got a new sim and tested it and it's good, still 'no sim' on my MX4, any suggestions?
[16:17] <piercedwater> hi
[16:17] <piercedwater> how do i put Ubuntu Touch on my Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3"?
[16:23] <Nube68> need some help with a Franklin U600 modem..It worked fine for years in Ubuntu..loaded new software and the USB modem stopped working..on start up i see the franklin string but under a USB device it lists only vendor ID and addressee.. Any one out the have a idea?
[17:06] <Spacedawgg_ie> my new MX4 is a brick that says 'no sim' where do I request replacement/refund?
[17:15] <OerHeks> Spacedawgg_ie, contact your vendor, or telco for a new sim
[17:36] <Spacedawgg_ie> OerHeks, I did this today, got a new one, still didn't work, I tried it in my old phone, works fine. my new MX4 is bricked :(
[17:38] <Spacedawgg_ie> ...or the linux equivelant of an ipod touch!
[17:38] <Spacedawgg_ie> everything still works except the phone.
[20:39] <vthompson> Are there any UITK SDK guys around? bzoltan, zbenjamin, zsombi?
[20:42] <vthompson> Currently the default AppHeader for the MainView is disabled when it's not exposed of if it's "moving". What this seems to do is also disable the header when the data in the view is loading or changing. This means that the music app's search feature currently causes the OSK to show and hide as the contents refresh during a search. Is there a way to override the AppHeader's enabled property?
[20:43] <vthompson> This is bug #1514143
[20:45] <vthompson> I can fix this bug by hacking the AppHeader to allow it to be enabled when it is "moving" and I'd like to override it as such
[20:59] <vthompson> It looks like this MP is the one what introduced the behavior: https://code.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/20-AppHeader-use-cppHeader/+merge/273096
[21:59] <vthompson> I've marked the ubuntu-ui-toolkit package as affected by bug #1514143 and have provided a simple example that exhibits this issue.
[22:03] <vthompson> I'd appreciate a workaround, as we are getting pressure to land the app with UC1.3 support, and also think this needs to be fixed. The C++ header's moving property is not behaving as it should.
[23:22] <gkeen_> is there an ETA on ActiveSync (EAS) support for Ubuntu Touch devices?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.114460
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"Nube68",
"OerHeks",
"Spacedawgg_ie",
"gkeen_",
"piercedwater",
"vthompson"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-touch"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-ko
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[01:15] * HolyKnight 프랑스 계엄령 선포!
[01:16] <HolyKnight> [속보] CNN발 현재 최소 149명 사망(프랑스)
[01:18] <jason____> THX, Holy Knight, but 여러 발 늦은 OLDs. (NOT NEWs)
[01:18] <HolyKnight> ㅠㅠ
[01:18] <jason____> ^____________^
[01:20] <autowiz_> 아직 모르고 있던 저는 뭐지요 ㅠㅠ
[01:22] <jason____> 아직 모르고 있던 저(=autowiz_ )는 ............. 억대 연봉 수령인
[01:23] <autowiz_> 장난 아닌데요
[01:23] <autowiz_> 아직은 얼마 못버는 ㅠㅠ
[01:35] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3692609&cpage=1
[01:36] <autowiz_> 아오... 완전 끔찍합니다 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[02:07] <ipeter__> 안녕하세요?
[02:49] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요~~
[03:33] <autowiz_> 토요일이긴 하지만 너무 조용한거 아닌가요? ㅎㅎㅎ ㅠㅠ
[03:38] <ircCloud^Seony> 안녕하세요
[03:38] <ircCloud^Seony> 어제 차 한대를 충동구매 했습니다...
[03:38] <ircCloud^Seony> 이제껏 이 정도 액수를 질러본게 처음이라 살짝 겁나네요
[03:38] <ircCloud^Seony> 비싼 차는 아니긴 한데...
[03:39] <autowiz_> 자동차 사셨군요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[03:40] <ircCloud^Seony> 네 ㅎㅎ
[03:40] <autowiz_> 저는 어제 처음들었느데 이런말이 있데요 , 차시면 한달은 좋다가 월납입금 고지서 보면서 할부 끝날때까지 후회한다는 ㅋㅋ 근데 이건 잘못된듯
[03:41] <autowiz_> 어떤 모델로 사셨어요?
[03:41] <ircCloud^Seony> 사진 링크 드릴께요 ㅎㅎ
[03:43] <razGon_MINILA> ㅎㄷㄷ
[03:43] <razGon_MINILA> 어떤 차인지요?
[03:43] <ircCloud^Seony> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/htmo8w0p8p1k1od/AADf3G0NsMyhRgjk5DQwh13_a?dl=0
[03:43] <ircCloud^Seony> 스바루 포레스터에요
[03:44] <razGon_MINILA> 스바루..ㅎㅎ
[03:44] <ircCloud^Seony> 공부 엄청해서 산 차에요 ㅎㅎ
[03:44] <razGon_MINILA> 카니발과 비슷하지만 한급 이상의 멋진차.
[03:44] <autowiz_> 뭐든 제품을 하나 살때는 공부를 엄청나게 하게 되더라구요. ㅋㅋ
[03:44] <razGon_MINILA> 하지만, 우리나라는 AS문제로 별루취급 못받은 놈이죠
[03:45] <razGon_MINILA> 차자체는 좋습니다.
[03:45] <autowiz_> 마눌님도 좋아라 하시는지요? ㅎㅎ
[03:45] <razGon_MINILA> 여자는 싫어함.ㅋ
[03:45] <razGon_MINILA> 세단 좋아함.ㅋㅋㅋ
[03:45] <ircCloud^Seony> 네 한국에서는 망한 브랜드더라구요
[03:45] <ircCloud^Seony> 미국에서는 아주 유명한 차에요
[03:46] <razGon_MINILA> 카니발 같은차
[03:46] <ircCloud^Seony> 일단 브랜드 자체가 무조건 4륜 구동이에요
[03:46] <autowiz_> 네 전에 캐나다 살던 형님도 스바루 좋아라 하셨습니다. 거긴 눈이 많이 와서
[03:46] <ircCloud^Seony> 제 와이프가 좀 투박하고 큰 디자인을 좋아해서 저희 둘다 아주 맘에 들어해요 ㅎㅎ
[03:47] <ircCloud^Seony> 네. 눈 많이 오거나 길 험한 곳에서 스바루 차가 성능이 아주 좋다네요
[03:47] <autowiz_> 두분이서 오붓하게 소풍이라도 ㅎㅎㅎ 두근두근
[03:47] <ircCloud^Seony> ㅎㅎ 차 샀으니 싸돌아댕겨야죠
[03:48] <autowiz_> 제 여친님은 갑자기 순식간에 DSLR 카메라를 사시고는 학원도 다니면서 배우시네요 헐헐
[03:48] <ircCloud^Seony> 오... 좋네요. 제 와이프는 사줘도 안배워서 한 1년 동안 전원도 안켜보다가, 결국 식구들 줬어요
[03:48] <autowiz_> 상의 정도는 했었어도 좋았을것을 ... 서니님도 사진 취미 있으시면 차타고 경치 좋은곳 찾아다니면서
[03:48] <autowiz_> 사진도 찍고 , 입술도장도 찍고 꺄~~ 부끄부끄
[03:49] <ircCloud^Seony> ㅎㅎ 저희가 그럴 짬밥은 지나서 ㅎㅎ
[03:49] <autowiz_> 저는 80 먹어도 손붙잡고 걸어다니고 싶은 ㅎㅎ
[03:50] <autowiz_> 잠시 막간을 이용해서 어제부터 궁금했던게 있습니다 서니님
[03:50] <ircCloud^Seony> 네
[03:50] <autowiz_> 힙합 가사중에 , with out promotion man ~ 뭐 이런 대목이 있는데
[03:51] <ircCloud^Seony> 헐 힙합가사 ㅎㅎ
[03:51] <autowiz_> 영어사전이나 구글에서도 딱히 무슨뜻이다라고는 나와있지는 않더라구요. 대충 유추는 되지만서두
[03:51] <autowiz_> 누군가 어떤 외국사람 앨범에 노래 제목이기도 하긴 하던데 , 보통 어떤식으로 해석되시는지 아시는가 해서요.
[03:52] <autowiz_> 그냥 홍보해주는 사람 이런뜻도 들어맞기는 하는데
[03:52] <ircCloud^Seony> 일단, 전후 문맥을 알아야겠지만, 영어는 일반적인 노래 가사도 해석이 힘들어요ㅗ
[03:52] <ircCloud^Seony> 축약을 많이 하거든요
[03:53] <autowiz_> 어지간한건 사전이나 구글에 단락으로 라도 검색이 되거나 하는데 안나와서 혹시나 해서 여쭤봤습니다. ㅎㅎ
[03:53] <autowiz_> 차는 할부로 하신거죠? ㅜㅜ 몇개월 정도?
[03:54] <ircCloud^Seony> 60개월요. 차 가격은 $$$27,000 정도입니다.
[03:55] <ipeter__> 헐
[03:55] <ipeter__> 많은 이야기 나누셨군요
[03:56] <autowiz_> 보험같은건 얼마나 나가세요? 한국보다는 싼편일까요?
[03:56] <ircCloud^Seony> 음.... 한국은 새차 보험 얼마에요?
[03:57] <ipeter__> 오즈님 여친님도 신경써주셔야죠
[03:57] <ipeter__> ㅎㅎㅎ
[03:57] <ipeter__> 맨날 그렇게 직장에서 밤 늦게까지 일하시면
[03:57] <ipeter__> 여친느님 슬프지 않으실까요?
[03:57] <ipeter__> ㅠ
[03:58] <ipeter__> 일벌레 오즈님!
[03:58] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋ
[03:58] <ipeter__> 오즈님 오늘 수업 끝나고 찾아뵐까요?
[03:58] <autowiz_> 보험 드는 사람에 따라 다른데 .
[03:58] <ipeter__> 맞아요. 사람마다 틀려요. 차에 따라서도 틀리구요.
[03:59] <autowiz_> 초반에는 년150 정도 나가는거 같습니다.
[03:59] <ipeter__> 헉 비싸다.
[03:59] <ipeter__> 초반에 100~150 드는것 같습니다.
[03:59] <ircCloud^Seony> 음... 여기는 보험사마다 좀 다른데, 제가 드는 보험은 새차 기준 년 100 정도 하는거 같네요
[03:59] <autowiz_> 당근 와이프 분도 같이 하실거고
[04:00] <ircCloud^Seony> 아뇨. 제 와이프는 면헣가 없어요 ㅎㅎ
[04:00] <autowiz_> 한국은 가족보험도 대상자중에 만27세 이하인가 한명만 있어도 보험금이 연간 수십만 원 차이나는 ㅠㅠ
[04:01] <autowiz_> 헙... 면허를 여태 안따신 이유가 있으신거겠지요?
[04:02] <ircCloud^Seony> 운전하는게 무섭대요 ㅎㅎ
[04:03] <ipeter__> 처음 면허들때 아주 많이 들죠.
[04:04] <ipeter__> 운전 재미있는데 막상 하시면
[04:04] <autowiz_> 저희 누나도 면허따고 1년 살짝만 몰고 다니다가 무섭다고 운전안하더니 이젠 장롱면허가 되서
[04:04] <ircCloud^Seony> 보험료 조회해보니까 연 100까진 아니겠네요...
[04:04] <autowiz_> 운전을 아예 못하네요
[04:04] <ipeter__> 재미있어하시겠죠.
[04:04] <ircCloud^Seony> 한국에서는 여자들이 운전하기 무서울만하죠
[04:04] <ircCloud^Seony> 여기는 느리게 가든 어떻게 가든 아무도 뭐라 안해서 할만해요
[04:05] <autowiz_> 저는 운전하는게 재미있어서 므흐흐흐 근데 옆사람은 재미가 없나보더라구요 ㅠㅠ
[04:05] <ipeter__> 휴.
[04:05] <ipeter__> 한국은 늦게가거나 차선 잘못들어 차 돌리면
[04:05] <ipeter__> 욕+빵빵
[04:05] <ipeter__> ㅠㅠㅠ
[04:05] <ipeter__> 사실 좀 성격 버리는것 같아요.
[04:05] <autowiz_> 그래도 한국에서는 총은 안쏘잖아요 ㅎㅎ
[04:06] <ircCloud^Seony> ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:06] <ipeter__> 푸하하
[04:06] <ipeter__> 대박이네요.
[04:06] <ircCloud^Seony> 한국에 총기 합법화되면 쏠거 같은데요
[04:06] <ipeter__> 그렇네요.
[04:06] <ipeter__> 총 안쏘네요.
[04:06] <ipeter__> 맞아요.
[04:06] <ipeter__> 합법화되면 총쏜다 한표.
[04:06] <ircCloud^Seony> 전국민의 반이 총을 쏠 줄 아는 무서운 나라가 한국이에요 ㅎㅎ
[04:06] <ircCloud^Seony> 총을 쏠 줄만 아는게 아니라, 분해 조립까지 다 하죠
[04:07] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[04:07] <ipeter__> 근데 군용라이플만 그럴 수 있다는게 함정일것 같아요.
[04:07] <ipeter__> 권총은 몇명 못만져봤다는게 치명적이겟죠?
[04:07] <ipeter__> 미국은 권총이 더 많지 않을까요?
[04:08] <autowiz_> 저는 군대에서 권총 만져 봤어요 히힛
[04:09] <autowiz_> 진짜 만져만 봤어요 중대 내에서 소대장님 가져다 준다고 ㅋㅋ
[04:09] <autowiz_> 아 중대장이었나
[04:09] <autowiz_> 실탄은 잠실에서 Glock 싸봤구요 (길거리 GTA 아님 ㅠㅠ )
[04:09] <ircCloud^Seony> http://news.sbs.co.kr/news/endPage.do?news_id=N1003093392&oaid=N1003265040
[04:10] <ircCloud^Seony> 만취 운전자의 '적반하장'…손도끼로 '퍽'
[04:10] <ircCloud^Seony> ㅋㅋ
[04:10] <ircCloud^Seony> 총기 합법화되면 단순히 쏘는 수준이 아니라, 시가전 치르겠네요
[04:10] <autowiz_> 제가 FPS 에서 글록을 제일 좋아해서 글록으로 쏴봤는데 생각보다는 잘 안맞음 ㅠㅠ
[04:11] <ircCloud^Seony> 전국민이 총기 전투를 할 줄 아니... ㅋ
[04:11] <autowiz_> 그러고보면 참 무서운 나라인듯...
[04:11] <ircCloud^Seony> 네 우리는 잘 모르지만, 외국에서는 한국을 무서운 나라라고 하는거 같아요. 제가 위에 말씀드린 거 때문에...
[04:12] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:12] <ipeter__> 군용라이플 M16, K2, k1 단 만져봤어요.
[04:12] <ipeter__> 파병가서 K1쓰고
[04:12] <ipeter__> 자대에서는 M16
[04:12] <ipeter__> 훈련소에서는 K2쓰구요
[04:13] <ircCloud^Seony> 예전에 L.A 한인폭동 일어났었을 때도, 카더라 통신에 의하면 폭동 일어나고 거기 거주하는 한인들 중 간부출신들이 아예 소대 편성해서 싸우는 바람에
[04:13] <ircCloud^Seony> 오히려 흑인들이 더 피해가 컸다는 소문도 있어요
[04:13] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[04:13] <ipeter__> 아이고 배야
[04:13] <ipeter__> 지금 hadoop 배우는 교육장인데
[04:13] <ipeter__> 리눅스 멀티부팅 설치가 안되서
[04:13] <ipeter__> 몇몇 컴은 윈도우 날라갔네요
[04:13] <ipeter__> 푸히히
[04:14] <ipeter__> 저는 놋북에 아예 우분투 써서 그냥 제컴으로 하는데
[04:14] <ipeter__> 어휴..
[04:14] <ipeter__> 이거 무슨 교육인지 설치인지.
[04:14] <autowiz_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9CONciCLD4
[04:14] <autowiz_> road rage ~ ㅋㅋㅋ
[04:17] <ircCloud^Seony> ㅎㅎ 저 아저씨 굉장히 신사적이네요
[04:17] <ircCloud^Seony> 대단하다
[04:17] <ircCloud^Seony> 로드레이지 하니까 생각나는 건데, 한국에서는 비상등이 미안하다 내지는 고맙다는 의미인데, 미국에서는 시비거는 뜻이라네요
[04:18] <autowiz_> 그래요? 조심해야겠네요
[04:20] <autowiz_> 건널목에서 상향등 깜빡거리는건 한국에서는 "나 먼저갈께~" , 외국은 "먼저 가세요~" 라는건 들었는데
[04:20] <autowiz_> 비상등도 뜻이 다른가 보네요
[04:21] <ircCloud^Seony> 네. 여기서는 먼저 가라는 뜻이에요
[04:27] <autowiz_> 파티션 ext3 나 ext4 로 포멧할때 보통은 옵션없이 그냥 파일 시스템만 만들어서 쓰면 되겠지요?
[04:32] <ipeter__> gui만쓰다보니 특별히 옵션준 기억이 없어요..ㅠ
[04:49] <angrystar> 여러분 kde깔려면 어케해요? 지금 15.10그놈인데요..ㅡㅡ;
[04:50] <angrystar> 쿠분투 깔려하는데 자꾸 다운되고 겨우 설치해도 불안정하고요..헐..
[04:51] <autowiz_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/417/how-do-i-install-kde
[04:51] <autowiz_> 요것이 간단한 가이드 정도 입니다.
[04:51] <ipeter__> 오즈님?
[04:51] <ipeter__> 직장 위치가 어디예요?
[04:52] <autowiz_> 독산역입니다.
[04:52] <autowiz_> 2번출구 나오시면 됩니다.
[05:03] <Ferendevelop> ircCloud^Seony: ircCloud 어때요?
[05:04] <autowiz_> ircCloud 는 구름위를 걷는기분~~ ㅎㅎ
[05:35] <Ferendevelop> ㅎㅎㅎ
[05:35] <Ferendevelop> ircCloud가 모바일 버전만 있죠?
[05:48] <autowiz_> 저는 웹 브라우저가로 그냥 쓰기 편해서 씁니다
[05:50] <angrystar> 여러분...사운드 잡는 법좀 가르켜주세요..
[05:51] <angrystar> alsa 깔려있습니다..
[05:56] <angrystar> 여러분!!
[05:56] <angrystar> 사운드카드 잡는법점 갈켜줘요..
[06:14] <Ferendevelop> angrystar: 어떤 사운드 카드를 사용하고 계신지, 운영체제 버전, 커널 버전을 알려주셔야 도와드릴 수 있어요.
[06:15] <angrystar> alc889
[06:15] <angrystar> 사운드카드 이름입니다..
[06:15] <angrystar> 버전 15.10
[06:17] <angrystar> 4.20.0-18커널입니다.
[06:17] <angrystar> 15.10 우분투입니다.
[06:18] <HolyKnight> 앱도 되구요
[06:18] <HolyKnight> 브라우저도 가능해유
[06:18] <HolyKnight> 아얄씨클라우드 ㅇㅇ
[06:24] * angrystar slaps Ferendevelop around a bit with a large fishbot
[06:24] * angrystar slaps Ferendevelop around a bit with a large fishbot
[06:44] <HolyKnight> 트윗: 현재 수입맥주 시장은 국내대기업 맥주업체들이 대부분을 차지하고 있고, 그 외 중소업체들인데, 여기서 법으로 할인율을 낮추면 유명 일부 맥주만 살아남고 이름없는 수입맥주들은 시장을 잃게 될 것으로 예상. 결국 대기업들의 배를 불리면서 경쟁자 제거이득
[06:47] <angrystar> 여러분..
[06:48] <angrystar> alc889,4.20.0,쿠분투15.10입니다.. 사운드 잡는법좀 갈켜주세요..
[06:49] <angrystar> 아차! 커널4.2.0-18입니다..
[06:59] <HolyKnight> @Ogarotis: 따끈따끈....오늘자....어메이징.....헬알못....jpg http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=stock_new1&no=1351706&page=1&exception_mode=recommend
[07:01] <angrystar> alc889,4.20.0,쿠분투15.10입니다.. 사운드 잡는법좀 갈켜주세요..
[07:48] <autowiz_> 친구가 상을 당했네요 .
[07:50] <autowiz_> 대구좀 다녀오겠습니다.
[07:52] <PotatoGim> 에고.. 비도 오는데 조심히 다녀오시길...
[07:58] <crixer> ㅋ
[07:58] <crixer> ㅋ
[07:58] <crixer> ㅋ.
[07:58] <ipeter__> gjf
[07:58] <ipeter__> 헐
[07:58] <crixer> ..... 영정당했어요 롤
[07:58] <ipeter__> 오늘 못보겠군요.
[07:58] <ipeter__> ㅠㅠ
[07:58] <crixer> 하하하하하하하
[07:58] <crixer> 부케 30찍는다고 봇돌렸는데
[07:58] <crixer> 그걸 누가 신고해서
[07:58] <crixer> 본케까지 영정
[07:58] <crixer> 데헷이랄까요
[07:58] <crixer> ...;
[10:54] <mil_> 여기에 질문하면 되나요??
[10:57] <mil_> 우분투를 처음 설치 해 보고 모르는 것이 많아 질문드리려고 하는데 여기에서 가능할까요?
[10:58] <HolyKnight> 네 아마도유.
[10:58] <mil_> 이런 채팅창도 처음인데 누가 이걸 볼 수 있는건지도 궁금합니다
[10:58] <HolyKnight> 한가하실때 답변달릴듯
[10:58] <HolyKnight> 여기 계신분들이 볼수있슴다
[10:58] <mil_> 아 그런거군요 알겠습니다 감사합니다
[10:58] <HolyKnight> 예
[12:09] <Questons> 급식앱 공모전 관련해서 질문드릴게 있습니다~
[12:10] <Questons> 신청서 내 5번같은 경우는 앱 소스를 웹에 공개한 주소를 올려달라고 하시는 말씀이신건지
[12:10] <Questons> 잘 모르겠는데
[12:10] <Questons> 맞나요?
[12:39] <DarkCircle> 급식앱은 무슨 이야기인가요?
[13:25] <JasonJang> 당췌 ㅋㅋㅋ 뭔 말씸들이신지~ ㅋ
[13:26] <DarkCircle> 글게요 완전 뜬금 쩔어요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[13:26] <DarkCircle> 오늘따라 지구가 미쳤나봄
[13:26] <JasonJang> ㅎㅎㅎ
[13:26] <DarkCircle> 오늘 잠에서 잘못 깼나 하는 생각도 드네요 (ㅋㅋㅋ)
[15:19] <commania> 안녕하세요~
[15:19] <commania> 혹시 누구 게세요?
[15:19] <commania> 안녕하세요~
[15:31] <HolyKnight> ㅇㅅㅇ
[16:46] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3699627&cpage=1
[19:38] <ahoops_> 늦은밤 고생들이 많으십니다. (__)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.126226
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"DarkCircle",
"Ferendevelop",
"HolyKnight",
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"PotatoGim",
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"commania",
"crixer",
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"ircCloud^Seony",
"jason____",
"mil_",
"razGon_MINILA"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:17] <darkxst> anyone around that could upload http://pastebin.com/4vcJxuRb for me? I should have upload rights to it, but its a new source package and packagesets haven't updated yet
[07:17] <darkxst> it really needs to land before next daily build kicks off later tonight ;)
[07:22] <darkxst> infinity, perhaps? ^
[07:28] <infinity> darkxst: Can do.
[07:29] <darkxst> infinity, thanks ;)
[07:32] <infinity> darkxst: Done.
[07:35] <infinity> darkxst: And added gdm3 to the ubuntugnome packageset for next time.
[07:35] <darkxst> infinity, laney has script that is meant to handle the packagesets ;)
[07:36] <infinity> darkxst: Well, I cheated. :P
[07:36] <darkxst> infinity, ok
[07:38] <darkxst> it was a pretty epic merge
[07:38] * darkxst waiting for the real fallout
[07:39] <darkxst> gdm hadnt been merged since the 2.x days, and the whole gdm -> gdm3 change made for fun
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.133758
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"darkxst",
"infinity"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/14/%23ubuntu-motu.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
}
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2015-11-14-#lubuntu
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[01:59] <ianorlin> there is also iotop which will show current input and ouput not just for io but for any disk
[11:57] <Guest58074> Hey guys. I have an old 2006 white MacBook. What version should I install? 32 bit PC version?
[11:58] <bioterror> do you have how much RAM?
[11:59] <Guest58074> I think 4gb at the most. Prob 2
[12:00] <Guest58074> But for Mac I only see 64 bit and power pc. I don't have either.
[12:00] <bioterror> if you have less than 4GB, go with the 32bit, as the 64bit environment uses RAM more than 32bit
[12:00] <Guest58074> So I download the pc install though?
[12:01] <bioterror> yes, You have intel based machine
[12:01] <Guest58074> Cool, making sure. Thanks!
[12:02] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[12:02] <bioterror> that page is probably outdated :D
[12:05] <Guest58074> That's really helpful! Thanks for the link. I missed it somehow.
[17:14] <suncokret> hello, i use lubuntu 14.04... is there any important advantage in 15.10, or it is better to stay on 14.04??
[18:00] <wangerin> Hi! Where do I find LTS-version of lubuntu? The files at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/lubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-i386.iso gives me a 12.04 version - that's a little to old ;-)
[18:02] <bioterror> that's the latest LTS
[18:02] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[18:06] <wangerin> Yes, but it should giv me a 14.04 image. Not a 12.04 image
[18:09] <bioterror> you installed it and it showed up as a 12.04?
[18:12] <wangerin> Yes. We installed 5 mashines today at our install-party, ending with 5 12.04 mashines that needed to be release-upgraded afwards :-( Not a good thing foor new users.
[18:12] <krytarik> !md5sum | wangerin
[18:12] <wangerin> Both th 14.04 and 14.04.3 images have this problem
[18:13] <Scaniatrucker> wangerin: here correct link. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/
[18:13] <bioterror> Scaniatrucker, leads to same image
[18:15] <wangerin> b0d1c58c8515ab40382d01f59655ba85 lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso
[18:15] <Scaniatrucker> bioterror: I check this link. After downloading with firefox, file is 14.04.3 (sorry for my bad English)
[18:17] <wangerin> Try to start the image. The file-name startes 14.04 but the result is a 12.04 installation. The md5 matches the hash in MD5SUMS in the server
[18:19] <wangerin> I don't have a 64bit mashine, so I can't test them to se if they also have the problem
[18:35] <krytarik> wangerin: I have a 'lubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-i386.iso' here, whose MD5 checksum matches the one listed in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/MD5SUMS that is definitely 14.04.3
[18:39] <wangerin> Yes the md5sum matches, but try starting as live. It states "install 12.04" and ls_release -a also says 12.04.
[19:07] <wangerin> krytarik: Have you tested it that t's actually the correct content? I don't think that it is
[19:08] <Unit193> He's gone, mate.
[19:09] <Unit193> Are you sure you're selecting the correct ISO?
[19:10] <Unit193> Manifest looks fine, let me download and check.
[19:12] <wangerin> I just started it a live. I states 12.04, and after a apt-get update I can do-release-upgrade to 14.04, so something is uterly wrong in the image
[19:13] <krytarik> wangerin: Just bootet into it and made a screenshot for you: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/2015-11-14-1854041280x1024scrot.php , anything else needed for proof while I'm here? :D
[19:14] <Unit193> I don't see the problem with 1152f2b9eb1342e8c47421e58a6fda6a
[19:15] <krytarik> Yep, that's the one I'm using.
[19:15] <Unit193> I didn't boot from it, but checking isolinux/grub/initrd/squashfs all indicates 14.04.
[19:15] <krytarik> Yeah, did that before too.
[19:15] <wangerin> why the f*** do I get a 12.04 when creating a usb-stick from that image? can it be usb-creator-gtk the is make the problem?
[19:16] <Unit193> Try dd?
[19:16] <wangerin> But I'm making the stick on a 14.04 ( ugraded from 12.04 and 10.04 before that )
[19:16] <bioterror> yeah, if you're using *nix, no reason to use anything else than dd
[19:31] <wangerin> Unit193: For creating a bootable usb-stick? How?
[19:31] <Unit193> dd if=lubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb (presuming sdb is your device!), unless bioterror would like to correct me.
[19:40] <bioterror> Unit193, some people likes to add bs=4M, I've heard it writes faster
[19:41] <Unit193> Ah, I've seen people use it, but easier to remember this way. :P
[19:42] <wangerin> I just trid it, but my laptop won't start on that stick.
[20:00] <wangerin> Hmm. Found the problem. usb-creator took the wrong image when passing it on the command-line, so 'sudo usb-creator-gtk --iso=lubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-i386.iso --not_persistent' did not install that image on the stick. Selecting the image manually solved the problem, but is a pain in the ass as I have to flash many sticks. Sorry for the trouble guys :-)
[22:58] <Clandestine> Hey guys. Has anyone here successfully installed Lubuntu on an old MacBook 1.1? I don't want to dual boot. I want to wipe OS-X and have Linux alone on the Mac.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.138782
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"Clandestine",
"Guest58074",
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"bioterror",
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"krytarik",
"suncokret",
"wangerin"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/14/%23lubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#lubuntu"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-pl
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[06:46] <Ashiren> happy Caturday
[06:46] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/3UVjiRq.jpg
[08:41] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/M6HWz9R.jpg
[09:52] <zasek> helo wszystkim !!!
[09:54] <gjm> oho
[09:58] <zasek> zapierdziela wiaterek ze az neta zarywa
[10:40] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/Le0FyIo.jpg
[12:34] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/KPmWF8A.jpg
[14:53] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/EkxtjKL.jpg
[16:04] <sysek> Ashiren: gorzej :D?
[16:08] <Ashiren> hm?
[16:40] <sysek> no z tymi kotaki
[16:40] <sysek> kotami*
[16:41] <gjm> tradycja
[16:42] <d42> z kotami zawsze lepiej :3
[16:45] <Ashiren> :3 http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111112172129/conglomeration/images/c/c6/Mainecoon-calico.jpg
[16:53] <Bodzioslaw> respektuj caturday
[18:20] <qermit> sradycja
[18:20] <qermit> w tygodniu się już nawklejal
[18:24] <Bodzioslaw> nie marudź
[18:48] <mati75> happy caturday
[19:32] <Ashiren> w tygodniu?
[19:35] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/p7xrJHm.jpg
[20:57] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/ukasyir.jpg
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.143874
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"authors": [
"Ashiren",
"Bodzioslaw",
"d42",
"gjm",
"mati75",
"qermit",
"sysek",
"zasek"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/14/%23ubuntu-pl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-kernel
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[15:36] <SamSpaces> Hi all, I've noticed a process called Rpigdnos. It returns after killing and deletion from /bin. Any ideas what that is?
[15:42] <TJ-> SamSpaces: is this a publicly available system?
[15:44] <TJ-> SamSpaces: check its parent process; anaylse *all* running processes and exectuable paths; some other process may be restarting it as a randomly named process. The name doesn't match any file in the archives, so it is likely some form or malicious process, possibly part of a root-kit exploit
[15:45] <SamSpaces> Thanks for the reply. It's a digitalocean server. I've rebooted with firewall now, checking if it's still there.
[15:45] <SamSpaces> Hm, yes, still active
[15:46] <SamSpaces> it takes up 100% cpu too
[15:48] <SamSpaces> parent process is /sbin/init
[15:49] <SamSpaces> Oh sorry, it's not a server, it's a droplet.
[16:10] <SamSpaces> Ok, Rpigdnos is as malicious program probably, no references what so ever, so to anyone who wants the scoop, now is your chance :)
[16:43] <TJ-> SamSpaces: found out anything more about it?
[16:54] <SamSpaces> I've managed to clear my system of it. I created another older droplet, copied the /sbin/init to the infected droplet, removed the init file, deleted the program in /bin, overwrote /sbin/init with the clean version and rebooted.
[16:55] <TJ-> SamSpaces: you should investigate how it got itself installed and launched, that sounds like an init system compromise
[16:56] <SamSpaces> I mess around a lot with crypto currency wallets. I know I shouldn't run them as root, so, that's a bit dumb, I know. But the culprit is most likely a crypto wallet.
[17:10] <Guest58677> wats +5519994589853 hacking
[20:23] <JanC> seems like SamSpaces is not the only one: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RqrdyvB6TTwJ:https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID%3D219865
[20:25] <JanC> and "Rpigdnos" might not be too random...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.148167
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Guest58677",
"JanC",
"SamSpaces",
"TJ-"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/14/%23ubuntu-kernel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu+1
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[11:30] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.149787
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"lordievader"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/14/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
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2015-11-14-#maas
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[00:05] <mup> Bug #1516173 changed: Able to unmount/remove filesystems while node is on <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516173>
[00:08] <mup> Bug #1516173 opened: Able to unmount/remove filesystems while node is on <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516173>
[11:46] <mup> Bug #1516229 opened: need UI option to select default disk <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516229>
[11:49] <mup> Bug #1516229 changed: need UI option to select default disk <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516229>
[12:04] <mup> Bug #1516229 opened: need UI option to select default disk <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516229>
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-fi
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[15:40] <Jozo> Ubuntu on aika paska.
[15:41] <Jozo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/762349
[15:41] <Jozo> taas kerran suljin väärän
[18:06] <pesasa_> Itse Mark näköjään kommentoinut tuota heinäkuussa.
[18:08] <Max^> siksikö se on high
[18:09] <Jozo> voinee lukea historiasta kuka on laittanu sen korkeaksi ja koska..
[18:10] <StockAntenna> oliskohan kernelisiivouspäivä kun satun olemaan ubuntussa
[18:11] <Jozo> toi on täysin ubuntun bugi, yleensä virheet voi johtaa joko debianiin tai muualla upstreamiin
[18:13] <StockAntenna> onhan toi joo vähän huonosti erotettavissa
[18:13] <StockAntenna> lähinnä tosta "kaaresta" X:n vieressä erottaa mikä on valittu
[18:14] <Max^> ei kai sillä distrolla ole edes kauheasti väliä jos kuitenki itse valitsee mitä siihen asentaa
[18:15] <Max^> toisissa vaan vähemmän riippivuuksia samoilla toiminnoilla
[18:15] <Jozo> Max^: Oletusulkonäkö on kyl aika oleellinen asia
[18:15] <Max^> harvoin jotai ubuntua saa asennettua nii että alle 1000 pakettiä koneel
[18:16] <Max^> openbox on hyvä ku ei mitään ylimäärästä mukana
[18:17] <Max^> palkitki vie vaan tilaa jos ei ole niin uus kone että olis joku järkevä resoluutio
[18:17] <Jozo> Max^: openbox ei taida olla niillä miljoonilla koneilla joissa ubuntu on
[18:18] <Max^> ei varmaan mut käytin ite sitä minimal versiota
[18:18] <Jozo> mut on tääki kanava, jos validin ubuntubugin julkituominen saa osaksekseen sitä että 'mitäs vittua käytät ubuntua, etkä openboxia'
[18:18] <Max^> no onhan tuo ubuntun paketeissa
[18:18] <Max^> apt-get install openbox vaa
[18:18] <Jozo> haen lisää kaljaa
[18:18] <elias_a> Jozo: Huomauttaisin, että Max^ ei ole vakiokalustoa tälllä kanavalla.
[18:20] <StockAntenna> tehdäänkö tolle bugille mitään?
[18:21] <Max^> luulis että sellaset ei käytä edes linuxia jotka ei tajua siitä mitään.. windowsiahan ne käyttää tai applen laitteita
[18:21] <StockAntenna> ei ole ihan noin nykyään
[18:21] <Max^> ei tavallinen tietokoneenkäyttäjä edes osais asentaa tollasia
[18:21] <StockAntenna> pieni osuus käyttäjistä ei "ymmärrä Linuxia" vaan vain käyttävät sitä
[18:21] <Max^> oletusasetuksiakaan ei windowsissa vaihdeta ku pelätään et hajoaa
[18:22] <StockAntenna> ne lienevät sellaisia joille vapaa käyttis-tietoinen sukulainen on laittanut vanhaan koneeseen Ubuntun esim kiintolevyn mentyä ja koneesta ei ole windows-imagea
[18:22] <Max^> sit näit jotka käyttää töissä koneita ja väittää että on rikki vaikka se on vaan pois päältä
[18:23] <Echramath> Pitäisköhän virittää johonkin erillioeen usbnamiskaan killall -15 spotify
[18:27] <pesasa> Mulla oli joskus pari vuosikymmentä sitten erillinen "killall netscape" tjsp.
[18:43] <Jozo> StockAntenna: joku on vihdoin tehny edes jotain, siel on bzr linkattu
[18:46] <Jozo> Max^: Ja ny nyt ku jatketaan, ni miks ihmeessä sä käytät ubuntua.... eiks debian olis sulle parempi valinta?
[18:46] <Jozo> (voisin sit samantien lopettaa)
[18:48] <Max^> ei oo jaksanu asentaa siihen koneeseen muutakaan
[18:49] <Max^> on mul yhes konees gentooki
[19:05] <Jozo> Onks tääl muute elämää? Siitä on aikaa ku oon tainnu viimeks tääl käydä
[19:05] <StockAntenna> muutama repliikki päivässä
[19:13] <Jozo> onks teillä muilla rhythmboxin kanssa ongelmia?
[19:13] <Thaurwylth> No mistäs tiedät, että ne ovat samoja ongelmia, kuin siulla, vaikka joku sanoisikin, että on?
[19:14] <Jozo> en mistään
[19:14] <elias_a> Totta - hieman tarkempaa vikakuvausta kaivattaisiin. :)
[19:15] <Jozo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/978604
[19:16] <Jozo> ei tommonen bugiraportti kauheasti auta, mut kuha ajattelin kysellä muilta jos niil ois ongelmia..
[19:19] <Jozo> mut ku ootte ni kauhean viisaita, ni kertokaapa miten debuggaan rhythmboxia järkevästi
[19:20] <Max^> en mä ainakaan käytä tollasia.. audacious itellä asennettuna
[19:20] <Jozo> Tota vasstausta osasinki odottaa
[19:20] <Max^> vaihdan aina ohjelmaa jos huomaan että ne on liian bugisia
[19:20] <Max^> menee kummiski aina vuosia että jotai korjataan
[19:21] <Jozo> Löytäispä jonku toimivan ja hyvän musiikinsoitto-ohjelman
[19:21] <Max^> mut varmasti täällä joku muu käyttää niitä oletuksena olevia
[19:22] <Jozo> Olis tietty kiva jos se oletussofta edes toimis. Mut mulle kyl kelpaa ehdotukset paremmista
[19:23] <Max^> mut voisin kyl olla hiljaa ennenku joku hermostuu niin että tulee bannia :D
[19:23] <Jozo> kerro vaa jos sul on ehdotuksia
[19:24] <Jozo> eiks audacious oo joku winamp-klooni?
[19:26] <Thaurwylth> Vieläkö XMMS on olemassa? Ja voiko Mplayerillä soittaa musiikkia? Siis ei millään Windows Media Playerillä, vaan sillä unkarilaisella monitoimi-mediasoittimella.
[19:26] <Jozo> no joinasin #rhythmbox-kanavalle, saas nähdä onko se eees hengissä
[19:27] <Echramath> Mplayerilla voi soittaa vaikka pientä pyöreää näkkileipää
[19:28] <Thaurwylth> Käy tsekkaamassa nykysääntöjen valossa myös ##rhythmbox, hihii.
[19:29] <Echramath> Clementine on kiva mutta bugaa ihan kiitettävästi
[19:29] <Jozo> Pitääks ny viel jotai tuplarisuaitoi sen lisäks kehittää että löytää oikee verkon ja ehkä jopa osaa kirjottaa kanavan nimen oikein
[19:29] <Echramath> Ja se mikä on ubuntun repoissa on täysin käyttökelvottomasti rikki ollut ainakin viimeksi kun sen asensin
[19:29] <Jozo> viimeks kuuntelin sit gst123:lle, ku meni hermot. Tänää oon oollu ilma musaa
[19:30] <Jozo> iha vaa todetakseni ettei se gst ainakaan oo se perimmäimen syy... ehkä se on toi vitu rytmilaatikko
[19:32] <Jozo> Tais just mun hermot mennä tohon. Pari kertaa oon yrittäny debug-logilla pyörittää sitä, mut ei siitä ota mitää selvää
[19:32] <Max^> ainut mikä häirsitsi silloi ku kokeilin sitä ubuntun mukana tulevaa viritystä oli se ku kestää melkei tunnin lisätä mediat sinne kirjastoon
[19:32] <Max^> sit jos ei muista painaa jotai tallennusnappia nii pitää tehdä sama uudestaan
[19:33] <Jozo> tommosta en oo huomannu
[19:33] <Jozo> mut meni jo apt-get --purge remove rhythmbox.*
[19:34] <Max^> no voi vaikuttaa ku niitä tiedostoja oli 30000
[19:34] <Max^> mut siks yleensä käytän noit missä tehdään vaa soittolistoja
[19:35] <Jozo> no mul on kai vaa joku 20k
[19:35] <Jozo> mä en taas tykkää soittolistoista
[19:36] <Jozo> mä haluaisin soittimen joka tietäis mitä mä halua kuunnella... ja osais käyttää internettii
[19:37] <Jozo> ois nii paljo mahdollisuuksia, mut ku nykyiset soittimet on täysin jämähtäneitä...
[19:37] <Jozo> ... tai sit en ole löytänyt yhtään järkevää
[19:38] <Jozo> pitäis varmaa tehdä ite
[19:39] <Max^> onko linuxilla edes muita rytmilaatikon tapasia muita ku amarok
[19:39] <Max^> ni ja mikä banshee se toine olio
[19:39] <Jozo> Onhan niitä vaikka kuinka
[19:39] <Jozo> Kaikki tosin keskeneräisiä tai muuten outoja
[19:40] <Max^> tuossaki kannattas varmaa yhessä koodata yks kunnollinen eikä jokaisen tehä omaa
[19:41] <Jozo> https://www.tomahawk-player.org/ - toi on nykyisistä mun suosikki, mun en silti tykkää siitä
[19:43] <Jozo> Ihmisillä on vaa nii erilaiset näkemykset siitä mikä on hyvä. Joku tykkää winampista ja joku jostain muusta...
[19:43] <Jozo> ... tietty voi nykyisellään pitää oletuksena että soitin osaa ees soittaa musaa
[19:44] <Jozo> Ja selaimia ihmiset kai nykyään käyttää muodossa jos toisessa eniten musan kuunteluun
[19:44] <Echramath> Kyllä mä käytän tuota spotifyclienttia
[19:44] <Jozo> spotifyki on aika pitkälle vaa chromium
[19:45] <Max^> linuxin spotify ny vasta buginen onkin
[19:45] <Max^> ainaki se virallinen versio
[19:46] <Jozo> joo, en ole kai vuoteen käyttänyt sitä. Mut se oli aina iha käynnistyksen jälkee tunnin aina iha tahmassa ku synkkas soittolistoi
[19:46] <Echramath> Joo siksi aloinkin juuri kyseenalaistaa elämänvalintojani
[19:46] <Jozo> (jaa, ei mul niitä soittolistoi ole ku jokunen tuhat, mut ei niitä mistää ees saa tuhottua)
[19:47] <Jozo> mä en oo vuotee kuunnellu musaa, muuta ku kännis aina jokusen kuukauden välein
[19:47] <Max^> itellä oli lähinnä sellasia että jää valikot päälle tai tekee ihan muutaku pitäs
[19:48] <Jozo> En mä tiedä mistä Echramath ton elämänvalinnan heitti, mut mulle se tais olla just sitä
[19:50] <Jozo> Ja tosiaan ny soittaa gst123, pitää vaa ite valita musa ja löytää se hakemisto...
[19:50] <Jozo> kai tää näinki käy
[19:50] <Jozo> helpottais jos ois noi tiedostot jossai järjestyksessä... onneks beets korjais sen
[19:51] <Jozo> Ja tosiaan tekis mieli tehdä se oma soitin... Oon miettiny jos vepiselaimeen tekis, mut harmi ku selaimet ei taida tukea ku mp3+ogg formaattei
[19:52] <Jozo> ja mulla ku on suurin osa kai flaceina
[20:02] <jjo> Jozo: ohan flacille javascriptilläkin tehty decoderi
[20:02] <jjo> en kyllä ole ihan varma miten tidal sen tekee, mutta chromella ajettuna se tukee flac-streamiakin
[20:03] <jjo> http://audiocogs.org/codecs/flac/
[20:03] <Jozo> jjo: Joo, ton googletin kyl joskus. En sit jaksanu kokeilla toimiiko se oikeesti. Mut ilmeisesti toi ei ainakaa ois este tehdä sitä soitinta
[20:04] <Jozo> pari ihan hyvää avointa keskeneräistä aihiotaki jaksoin metsästää... niide päälle vois väsätä helposti jotain
[20:05] <Jozo> harmi vaa että se kaikki ois javascriptiä, jota en kyl osaa pätkääkään
[20:05] <Jozo> mut kai sen oppis
[20:05] <jjo> ei osaa moni mukaan joka javascriptiä kirjoittaa
[20:07] <Jozo> niin no ainakin javascriptillä pääsis aika pitkällle pelkästää kopypasteemalla kaikenlaista... ja sit ku tuli ensimmäine ongelma ni ois sormi suussa
[20:08] <Jozo> mitenkähään väheksymättä javascriptiä, mut toi kopypaste-malli taidettiin hilttain esittää lwn.netiss selitykseks php:n suosioon
[20:09] <Jozo> oon elämässäni kirjottanu neljä riviä javascriptiä. kopypastea oli syntaksi, loput oli muuttujien muuttamista
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"Echramath",
"Jozo",
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"Thaurwylth",
"elias_a",
"jjo",
"pesasa",
"pesasa_"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-unity
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[08:35] <Mirv> ljp: great! I see it's already being mentioned in an e-mail thread where people are trying to come up with a plan on how to proceed with connectivity-api.
[09:22] <ljp> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.168240
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"authors": [
"Mirv",
"ljp"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntustudio
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[16:29] <mike_> mrSippi
[16:30] <Guest84581> hello
[18:50] <ubuntu-studio> one word.. wow! thank you all and keep up the great work!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.169322
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"authors": [
"Guest84581",
"mike_",
"ubuntu-studio"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/14/%23ubuntustudio.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-news
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[01:12] <pleia2> well, it won't be the strongest issue, but it has some headline articles I want to get out there this coming week
[01:12] <pleia2> prepping and sending off to summary writers
[01:14] <ahoneybun> pleia2: you can't make it to fossetcon right?
[01:15] <pleia2> ahoneybun: no, it's the only week I have home in november
[01:16] <ahoneybun> alright :(
[01:16] <pleia2> ahoneybun: hopefully next year :)
[01:16] <ahoneybun> hopefully
[01:17] <pleia2> I traveled a lot in october too, so it was a bit much
[01:17] <ahoneybun> yea I saw
[01:18] <ahoneybun> mhall119: so OTA8 will drop during fossetcon
[01:18] <pleia2> I expect many pictures
[01:18] <ahoneybun> I hope not too many during my talk
[01:18] <ahoneybun> XD
[01:20] <pleia2> yes yes, pictures during ahoneybun's talk!
[01:20] <pleia2> ahoneybun: what are you speaking on?
[01:20] <ahoneybun> LoCo activity
[01:20] <pleia2> cool
[01:20] <ahoneybun> trying to get more LoCo's active
[01:20] <Unit193> ...They aren't all dead?
[01:20] <pleia2> Unit193: go to your room
[01:21] <ahoneybun> the South end of mine is not now
[01:21] <pleia2> :D
[01:21] <Unit193> :3
[01:21] <pleia2> california is still doing well
[01:21] <ahoneybun> we've had like 6 Ubuntu Hours, a Release party in the past 3 or so months
[01:21] <Unit193> ...Now I'm thinking Doctor Who, thanks. ;P
[01:21] <pleia2> I mean, it takes work, but when we build it, people come
[01:21] <pleia2> Unit193: hee
[01:22] <Unit193> Ours... Well I think there might be people in Ohio using Ubuntu.
[01:22] <ahoneybun> pleia2: http://usefoss.com/index.php/2015/10/27/15-10-release-party-result-success/
[01:23] <pleia2> ahoneybun: yes! I was pleased to read in the newsletter a couple weeks ago :)
[01:23] <ahoneybun> it went very well I think
[01:23] <pleia2> I think I edited that summary some
[01:23] <pleia2> hehe
[01:23] <pleia2> now I want pizza
[01:24] * ahoneybun makes summaries
[01:24] <pleia2> \o/
[01:25] * pleia2 preps for arrival-of-friend
[01:25] * ahoneybun also looks for cool domain names
[01:26] <pleia2> have fun :)
[01:26] <ahoneybun> so many ext
[01:27] <ahoneybun> a local bewery got 'hollywood.beer'
[01:27] <ahoneybun> :)
[01:27] <pleia2> at my talk today, someone asked if they could have an @princessleia.com email address XD
[01:27] <pleia2> "haha, no"
[01:27] <ahoneybun> XD
[01:28] <ahoneybun> ahoneycutt.tech is open
[01:28] <pleia2> I think I have pleia2.me
[01:28] <pleia2> yeah
[01:28] <ahoneybun> why the hell does google charge more for domains
[01:28] <ahoneybun> 20 bucks for the same one at domain.com
[01:28] <ahoneybun> for 10
[01:29] <pleia2> all registrars charge different
[01:29] <pleia2> are you signed up with the ubuntu member discount at gandi.net?
[01:29] <ahoneybun> no?
[01:29] <pleia2> it's not cheaper for everything, but I use it
[01:29] <ahoneybun> I should be getting LWN too but nope
[01:29] <Unit193> I use namecheap.
[01:30] <pleia2> ahoneybun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Gandi
[01:30] <pleia2> heh, LWN turns off your subscription if you don't log in for a while, happened to me
[01:30] <ahoneybun> I never got it
[01:30] <ahoneybun> ever
[01:30] <pleia2> got behind on reading, then one day - no more!
[01:30] <Unit193> ahoneybun: Same.
[01:30] <pleia2> the process to apply for it was always kind of convoluted
[01:31] <pleia2> I didn't bother doing it again
[01:31] <ahoneybun> not cheaper then domain.com
[01:31] <ahoneybun> but better then google domains
[01:33] <pleia2> ah, .tech at gandi on sale for $9.99 but renewal is back up to $45.97
[01:33] <ahoneybun> wow
[01:35] * ahoneybun wants and needs tacos
[01:35] * pleia2 goes back to figuring out where to go for dinner
[02:32] <tsimonq2> pleia2: ping
[03:55] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I did a good majority of the summaries
[03:56] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I might finish them up, but I really worked hard on that
[04:12] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I finished all I could, so the summaries are done
[13:19] <pleia2> made a couple edits before I go out museuming, thanks for your work tsimonq2 :)
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.175527
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"authors": [
"Unit193",
"ahoneybun",
"pleia2",
"tsimonq2"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-gr
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[08:16] <Black_Horseman> meres
[09:49] <xeirwn> kalimera sthn parea
[09:51] <kerato> hi
[09:58] <xeirwn> skeftomai thn agora enos ssd...exei kapoios idees ?
[10:46] <Tassos> Καλησπέρα
[11:05] <Tassos> έχει δοκιμάσει κανείς να συνδέσει τον ήχο από τον υπολογιστή κατευθείαν στην οθόνη του;
[11:06] <Tassos> τι εννοώ.. εγώ έχω ubuntu 12.04 και έχω μια οθόνη ( είναι και tv μαζί.. αλλά δε παίζει ρόλο αυτό )
[11:06] <Tassos> και έχει υποδοχή για ήχο από πίσω..
[11:07] <Tassos> έτσι και εγώ για να απαλλαγώ από τα ηχεία είπα να συνδέσω τον ήχο στην οθόνη..
[11:07] <Tassos> αλλά.. τζίφος δεν ακούγεται τίποτα..
[11:21] <kerato> ti eidous ypodoxh
[11:21] <kerato> hdmi?
[11:47] <Black_Horseman> me hdmi paizoun amesa kai ta hxeia
[11:47] <Black_Horseman> toulaxiston apo laptop
[12:29] <Tassos> α! ναι την οθόνη με HDMI την συνδέω αλλά δε παίζει. :(
[12:29] <Tassos> με HDMI συνδέω την οθόνη... αλλά δε παίζει.. :/
[12:30] <Tassos> δε ξέρω γιατί.. :( και για αυτό πήγα να συνδέσω και ξεχωριστώ καλώδιο μονο για τον ήχο..
[12:30] <Tassos> λέτε να είναι ευκολότερο να διορθώσω το HDMI ;?
[12:30] <Tassos> αλλά τι να φτάει;
[12:35] <kerato> anoikse to padevchooser kai dialekse output
[12:37] <Tassos> αυτό ήθελα α σας δείξω τώρα..
[12:37] <Tassos> ορίστε : http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd487/learn1000/HDMI%20oudio%20option%20ok.png η επιλογή υπάρχει
[12:37] <Tassos> αλλά αν την επιλέγω δε φαίνεται τίποτα.. :(
[12:38] <Tassos> δεν *ΑΚΟΥΓΕΤΕ* συγνώμη.. χαχαα
[12:38] <Tassos> είναι λίγο περίεργο.. :/
[12:54] <kerato> oxi kai toso
[12:54] <kerato> to hdmi as poume
[12:54] <kerato> o hxos apo hdmi na pw kalytera
[12:54] <kerato> an exeis nvidia paizei mono me tous nvidia-glx
[12:54] <kerato> oxi me tous open source drivers
[12:54] <kerato> mporei kai sthn ati na isxyei kati paromoio
[12:55] <kerato> den exw ati karta opote den kserw psaksto
[13:00] <Tassos> kerato: έλα με συγχωρείς έτρωγα...
[13:01] <Tassos> τους οδηγούς της ATI έχω.. και μάλιστα τους κλειστούς..
[13:02] <Tassos> πάντως η πληροφορία που μου έδωσες δε την ήξερα.. ( πως με τους open source της nvidia δεν παίζει ο ήχος.. )
[13:03] <kerato> e tote psaxto apo to catalyst control center
[13:03] <kerato> h opws diaolo legetai ayto to utility tis amd
[13:07] <Tassos> δεν έχω βρει κάτι..
[13:07] <Tassos> :/
[13:08] <Tassos> για να δω κάτι που έκανα μόλις με μια επανεκκίνηση αν θα γίνει τίποτα ( δε νομίζω.. ) :P
[13:13] <Tassos> μπαα.. τιποτα
[14:30] <Tassos> αν πατήσετε εδώ : http://html5up.net/solid-state δεξιά πάνω στο "menu"
[14:31] <Tassos> "Βγαζει" ένα παράθυρο εμπρός σου... αυτό του στηλ του "παραθύρου" πως το κάνεις;
[14:31] <Tassos> πως λέγετε :/
[14:31] <Tassos> ;;
[16:55] <Tassos> πως λέγετε αυτό ρε παιδιά ; :/
[16:55] <Tassos> αν πατήσετε εδώ : http://html5up.net/solid-state δεξιά πάνω στο "menu"
[16:55] <Tassos> "Βγαζει" ένα παράθυρο εμπρός σου... αυτό του στηλ του "παραθύρου" πως το κάνεις;
[21:40] <Tassos> αν πατήσετε εδώ : http://html5up.net/solid-state δεξιά πάνω στο "menu"
[21:40] <Tassos> "Βγαζει" ένα παράθυρο εμπρός σου... αυτό του στηλ του "παραθύρου" πως το κάνεις;
[21:41] <Tassos> πως λέγετε κιόλας βασικά..
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-dk
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[13:37] <Ubuntubruger8> ?spørgsmål har lavet et usbstick med ubuntu med Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.6.2 men når jeg booter fra den "siger den: Unknown keyword in configuration file: No DEFAULT or UI configuration direktive found ! Boot:
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-hr
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[09:05] <SilverSpace> dan
[09:44] <Vlado9A3CY> hell o world
[11:15] <SilverSpace> hello Vlado9A3CY
[12:40] <SilverSpace> http://www.bug.hr/vijesti/qnap-dva-kucna-mrezna-diska-podrskom-android/148149.aspx
[12:41] <SilverSpace> zanimljivi uređaji
[13:14] <Vlado9A3CY> bok SilverSpace ...
[13:18] <Vlado9A3CY> ponekad ne shvacam cemu bi mi u praksi mogli posluziti takvi ili slicni uredjaji ...
[13:18] <Vlado9A3CY> mozda u nekoj firmi za pospremanje podataka ...
[13:18] <Vlado9A3CY> ali kod mene doma, ne znam
[13:20] <Vlado9A3CY> mozda bih pokazao interes kada bi ti uredjaji mogli umjesno mene nacijepati drva za ogrijev... i posloziti na hrpu blizu ulaznih vrata :)
[13:21] <Vlado9A3CY> odoh u kuhinju... see you all later, have a great day
[14:56] <obrut> jos nisi nacijepao drva ? :) a zima kuca :)
[14:57] <obrut> ja to rijesio jos u ljeto :)
[15:01] <jelly> .weather zagreb
[15:01] <datase> jelly: Weather for Zagreb, Croatia | Temperature: 55°F / 13°C; Humidity: 67%; Pressure: 30.30in / 102.6kPa; Conditions: Clear; Wind: North, 0mph / 0kph; Updated: 1 min, 9 secs ago | Forecast for Saturday: Mostly cloudy; High of 56°F / 13°C; Low of 40°F / 4°C | Forecast for Sunday: Partly cloudy; High of 57°F / 14°C; Low of 43°F / 6°C | Forecast for Monday: Partly cloudy; High of 66°F / 19°C; Low of 38°F / (1 more message)
[15:01] <jelly> i nije neka zima, 19°C u studenom
[15:02] <obrut> e pa mora da bude zimi zima jer sad kad se nakupovo sraubi da mi bude toplo, e pa nebude :P
[17:20] <Mmike> SilverSpace, jesu tovote?
[17:20] <Mmike> SilverSpace, jesu gotove?
[17:31] <obrut> sshd[21999]: Invalid user jesus from 221.194.57.246
[17:31] <obrut> svatko se pokusava ulogirat na kantu...
[18:02] <jelly> sva sreca pa je lakse prek vode hodati nego se ulogirat na ssh
[18:22] <Mmike> vileni, daj opet onaj pastebin, stavio si da vrijedi valjda 10 minuta, i sad ga vise nemam :/
[19:33] <vileni> Mmike: stavio sam da vrijedi 1 dan
[19:33] <vileni> morat cu opet benchmarkat :)
[20:20] <Mmike> vileni, stavi, brate, da vrijedi 4 mjsca :)
[20:23] <vileni> Mmike: pa da netko vidi to!
[20:23] <Mmike> vileni, gnupgenkriptaj pa to jebomepasni
[20:24] <Mmike> :D
[20:24] <vileni> Mmike: bi, da znam to koristiti :)
[20:26] <Mmike> vileni, http://jebo.me/pas/7
[20:26] <Mmike> trivijalno je :)
[20:27] <Mmike> kubuntu 14.04, kde 4.13.3
[20:28] <Mmike> krivo
[20:41] <vileni> Mmike: za to ti moram dati svoj public key? tj ti meni svoj?
[20:56] <SilverSpace> Mmike: ma nisi imao kaj gledat sve po starom
[20:57] <SilverSpace> sutra u 17h onak radi razonode pogledat
[20:59] <SilverSpace> Vlado9A3CY: uređaj je zanimljiv ako imas više racunala pa ti je na svim dostupno
[20:59] <SilverSpace> zanimljivo je da se moze spojiti i na tv
[21:00] <SilverSpace> ja imam tako slozeno na routeru disk na openwrt
[21:00] <SilverSpace> usb disk*
[21:00] <SilverSpace> ovo je onak malo elegantnije ustekas i vozis
[21:03] <SilverSpace> uh od kada to nisam updejtao router https://openwrt.org/
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-discuss
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[01:36] * daftykins rolls his eyes at pwca
[01:42] <TJ-> Amazing isn't it?
[01:48] <daftykins> reisio is a right asshole
[01:51] <TJ-> Just ignore him, totally. He has been argumentitive in several channels tonight I watch, and been told off in several
[01:51] <TJ-> Ever since I saw how he behaves I deliberately don't respond to him
[01:51] <daftykins> hmm
[01:52] <TJ-> I've had in on ignore for many months at times; much calmer that way
[01:52] <daftykins> he's like the me that takes it too far! :D
[01:57] <daftykins> g'night all \o
[01:57] <TJ-> night :)
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:21] <TJ-> Arghhhh! you're here to haunt me and make me feel guilty!
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:45] <TJ-> I got caught up programming again
[11:30] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:54] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[12:58] <BluesKaj> hey pauljw
[12:58] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj :)
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> i wonder, does anyone ever ask how to do something in windows, 'like it's done in linux'...
[18:29] <OerHeks> offcourse MonkeyDust, and it should do 'exactly' the same
[18:30] <OerHeks> no matter what :-P
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> idd
[18:32] <pauljw> heheh...
[19:56] <Samsruti_Dash> hey
[19:56] <Samsruti_Dash> i want to be a mentor for Google Code In 2015 ( Ubuntu)
[20:31] <pauljw> brb
[20:36] <OerHeks> pauljw come back!
[20:36] <OerHeks> ow, never mind
[20:36] <OerHeks> Bashing-om Bashing-om hi hi
[20:38] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Hey .. Away from keyboard, returned and system had shut down, logs do not say why . Anyway, I am back on and all looks good with my system .
[20:39] <OerHeks> no overheating signals in a log?
[20:39] <OerHeks> or a wobbly powercord that has been inserted/pulled too many times? then the 2 limbs would bend ..
[20:40] * OerHeks fixed many mystery-rebooting-computers with that
[20:42] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: Yeah, overheating was my concern . but nope, not this time according to logs . Maybe as benign as the front panel reset button being hit ... anyway .. will run and see what results .
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> Bashing-om thermald and indicator-cpufreq saved my laptop from overheating
[20:46] <Bashing-om> MonkeyDust: It is a thought I do consider. I have the box in a bad place, and must clean it on a regular basis .. and I am behind . Got to make a trip into town and replenish the air can supply .( bios is set and shutdown is in good shape )
[21:36] <OerHeks> wait .. it is saturday ..
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> time for a drink, in a local bar
[21:43] * OerHeks walks to the local fridge and grabs 2 monkeybeers
[23:16] <pauljw> gotta run guys... later
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu
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[00:03] <peterrivassss> what is this
[00:04] <peterrivassss> who am i
[00:04] <k1l_> peterrivassss: this is the ubuntu support irc channel
[00:06] <Ripmind> Hi. can anyone help me? I have launched startx with chromium-browser but it is only half-sized: http://styler2go.de/screenshots/capture.png
[00:07] <Ripmind> i am kinda crying over that problem already :(
[00:07] <k1l_> Ripmind: you dont want to run a desktop and window manager etc?
[00:07] <Ripmind> i just want to have chromium-browser in fullscreen
[00:08] <Ripmind> i do not need mouse/keyboard/any input or other window
[00:08] <Seveas> Ripmind: try starting it with --noerrdialogs --kiosk --window-size=1920,1080 --window-position=0,0 (adjust the arguments to --window-size to what you need)
[00:09] <Ripmind> must have overseen the window size :/
[00:09] <Ripmind> i try that
[00:09] <OerHeks> alt + middle mouse = resize
[00:09] <k1l_> this seems helpfull. it mentions display resolution in the first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/487488/how-to-open-chromium-in-full-screen-kiosk-mode-in-minimal-windows-manager-enviro
[00:10] <locksmith2> good afternoon
[00:10] <Ripmind> THAT WORKED, thanks so much Seveas
[00:10] <Ripmind> i wonder why --start-fullscreen is not doing fullscreeen
[00:10] <Ripmind> feels liek a bug to me
[00:11] <TenLeftFingers> Are there any file managers in existence today that allow you to set a background image?
[00:11] <Seveas> Ripmind: because it has trouble detecting resolution without window manager
[00:11] <Seveas> Ripmind: I have a fleet of raspberry pi-based wallboards that run chrome this way :)
[00:12] <k1l_> Ripmind: yeah, i guess it wants to demand fullscreen from the windowmanager which is not there at all.
[00:13] <Ripmind> ah
[00:13] <Ripmind> Can you also help me settign up audio? :o
[00:13] <Seveas> nope. My wallboards don't do audio :)
[00:13] <Ripmind> damn! :D
[00:14] <Ripmind> well, worht a try :P
[00:14] <Ripmind> ...o.O sound works instantly... i guess ubuntu > debian :D
[00:26] <perks> trying to build a kernel the debian/ubuntu way… having trouble figuring out where exactly are my build targets?
[00:27] <perks> trying to pass ‘binary-generic’ says it cant find the make target
[00:27] <perks> there are a bunch od debian.<something> folders i dont know what they do as well
[00:28] <Seveas> perks: just do dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, or debuild -S and pbuilder build ../.....dsc
[00:29] <perks> for dpkg-buildpackage can i add the flag that compiles with debug synbols>
[00:30] <Seveas> not in the dpkg-buildpackage call, you'll need to fix that in either debian/rules or the kernel config
[00:33] <perks> yeah im grepping for the ‘skipdbg’ flag, should i change it everywhere it appears?
[00:33] <perks> its currently in 3 make files in debian/rules.d/
[00:33] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! How can I check to see what motherboard slot a video card is plugged into?
[00:34] <k1l_> i guess you dont mean opening the case and looking at it :)
[00:34] <econdudeawesome> yep! I wouldn't know the name of what I'm looking at
[00:34] <econdudeawesome> I have this board: http://us.msi.com/product/mb/870AG46.html#hero-specification
[00:34] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: identify the model -> age will tell whether it's anything other than PCI-Express
[00:35] <daftykins> one of the two blue slots then most likely, highly unlikely to be any other
[00:35] <econdudeawesome> I'm still a bit clueless when it comes to hardware, want to make sure I get a compatible video card
[00:35] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: real question - why does it matter?
[00:35] <econdudeawesome> daftykins: looking to upgrade the video card
[00:35] <daftykins> ah you'd be better off in ##hardware then, you want a PCI-Express card.
[00:35] <daftykins> which is everything sold today
[00:36] <econdudeawesome> I figured it was common. Still, no linux command to look it up directly? My google-fu failed me on that
[00:36] <econdudeawesome> but I'll check in ##hardware
[00:36] <daftykins> "lspci" -> identify what's in there already
[00:37] <k1l_> check "lshw"
[00:37] <k1l_> lspci with -vvv could tell something too
[00:38] <perks> for debian kernels, where can i find the list of ‘flavors’?
[00:38] <daftykins> perks: that'd be a #debian question
[00:38] <econdudeawesome> http://pastebin.com/3CdY77vs what am I looking for?
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> PCI bridge?
[00:39] <daftykins> no
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> ah, nm
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2)
[00:39] <daftykins> that's the one
[00:39] <econdudeawesome> That'll do :) thanks so much!
[00:39] <daftykins> so that's most certainly a PCI-Express card
[00:40] <Technobliterator> anyone know the console command needed to install NetBeans?
[00:40] <econdudeawesome> More of a ##hardware question, but any gotchas I should look out for re: nvidia cards? Usually I've had luck with drivers
[00:40] <Technobliterator> (the Java software)
[00:40] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: not really no, just consider your PSU rating before spending the earth :)
[00:41] <econdudeawesome> PSU...?
[00:42] <econdudeawesome> (hey, I really am clueless with hardware!)
[00:42] <econdudeawesome> ah, power supply
[00:42] <econdudeawesome> I remember now
[00:42] <econdudeawesome> good point
[00:42] <daftykins> yep, power connector types for graphics cards + wattage rating + 12V rail amps
[00:43] <paule32> hello
[00:43] <bprompt> allo
[00:43] <paule32> i need help in squid3 and mysql
[00:43] <econdudeawesome> Think I remember 500W or 1kW, guess I should figure that out :D
[00:43] <daftykins> paule32: think i saw you earlier, #ubuntu-server and ##networking may be more relevant
[00:43] <bprompt> paule32: tried #squid yet? there are quite a few folks there
[00:43] <paule32> there is nobody
[00:44] <daftykins> you have to be patient - and also not ask on a Friday night when everyone's out ;)
[00:44] <bprompt> well, it's Saturday in Australia and some parts of china =)
[00:44] <Seveas> daftykins: or glued to their tv/internet watching the paris disaster...
[00:45] <daftykins> that too
[00:45] <paule32> peng
[00:45] <daftykins> bprompt: shh :P
[00:45] <Seveas> bprompt: it's actually saturday in all of africa, asia and europe already :)
[00:45] <Seveas> just the americans are behind as usual :)
[00:45] <bprompt> Seveas: well, true, but they're sleeping over there I'd think =)
[00:46] <Seveas> bprompt: I'm not :)
[00:46] <bprompt> Seveas: rats!
[00:51] <wxl> has anyone had the very strange situation of having two separate partitions pointing at the same mount point?! i somehow seem to have both /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdc1 on /!
[00:51] <icewalker> hi, installed winetricks on ubuntu 14.04x64, but when i started up winetricks , i get "wineserver not found" any ideas?
[00:52] <k1l_> wxl: well, the last one mounted will be overlayed over the first one.
[00:52] <k1l_> wxl: check your fstab for that or for typos
[00:52] <wxl> k1l_: no, i mean they're BOTH mounted accounting to `mount`.
[00:52] <popey> they will both show up in mount
[00:52] <wxl> k1l_: i don't even regularly have an sdc.
[00:52] <reisio> icewalker: how're you starting it?
[00:52] <k1l_> wxl: think of them stapled now. the last one mounted is the one you see now.
[00:53] <popey> wxl, show us the out put of "mount" and "dmesg | grep sd"
[00:53] <wxl> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13253938/
[00:54] <icewalker> i just run "winetricks vcrun2008"
[00:54] <popey> wxl, i see no sda at the end
[00:54] <popey> so probably sda dropped off the bus and was re-detected as sdc
[00:55] <wxl> popey: uptime is like 120odd days or something
[00:55] <popey> wxl, what does "sudo fdisk -l" show?
[00:55] <popey> wxl, and ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[00:56] <emanuel> hey guys
[00:57] <daftykins> hi
[00:57] <wxl> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254009/
[00:58] <emanuel> i have a question that someone maybe can help me with
[00:58] <wxl> popey: as an explanation, sda should be the default root. sdb is a secondary drive. sdc is an attached usb drive which i can easily make disappear from the fdisk output by just unplugging.
[00:58] <popey> wxl, so you just have one mounted over the other
[00:58] <Bashing-om> !ask | emanuel
[00:59] <popey> wxl, maybe your /etc/fstab is at fault, what does that contain?
[00:59] <wxl> popey: but if i remove the usb drive, sdc goes away.
[00:59] <popey> wxl, of course it does :)
[00:59] <wxl> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254060/
[00:59] <emanuel> im trying to install gnome builder on 15.10 with gnome 3.18 but im getting stuck at the autogen stage
[01:00] <wxl> popey: oh, but removing the usb drive does not remove the mount point. long story short, i just want to mount the damn usb drive XD
[01:00] <wxl> !language | wxl
[01:00] <wxl> sorry :)
[01:00] <emanuel> my errors are as follows
[01:00] <popey> wxl, so plug it in, and "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/foo"?
[01:00] <emanuel> configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.17.8
[01:00] <emanuel> gio-2.0 >= 2.45.8
[01:00] <emanuel> gtksourceview-3.0 >= 3.17.7
[01:00] <emanuel> libgit2-glib-1.0 >= 0.23.4
[01:00] <emanuel> libpeas-1.0 >= 1.14.1) were not met:
[01:00] <daftykins> emanuel: please don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <zykotick9> popey: wxl i'd suggest against using /media/foo for manual mounting, but YMMV.
[01:01] <popey> zykotick9, it really doesn't matter.
[01:02] <wxl> popey: says it's already open.
[01:02] <popey> and "foo" is an example
[01:02] <icewalker> reisio: any suggestions
[01:02] <emanuel> guys im sorry
[01:02] <wxl> …because it's open on /!
[01:02] * wxl pulls his hair out
[01:02] <reisio> icewalker: winetricks vcrun2008 says no wine server found?
[01:02] <reisio> icewalker: try running 'winecfg' first
[01:02] <popey> wxl, what if you unplug it, do you see it still mounted (I mean,really you should unmount before unplug)
[01:02] <wxl> popey: yes.
[01:03] <emanuel> its saying it cant find gtk 3
[01:03] <popey> wxl, fix that then
[01:03] <popey> wxl, unmount it
[01:03] <icewalker> that or "winetricks" returns wineserver not found
[01:03] <wxl> popey: the only way to unmount / is to not have it be busy. but for that to be true, i'd have to reboot :)
[01:03] <popey> wxl, no
[01:03] <popey> wxl, sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[01:03] <wxl> popey: no workie
[01:04] <popey> your machine is confused, :)
[01:04] <icewalker> don't have winecfg command
[01:04] <wxl> popey: umount: /: device is busy.
[01:04] <emanuel> it says it cant find gio-2.0
[01:04] <icewalker> beside installing winestricks, do i also install to install wine?
[01:05] <daftykins> icewalker: "dpkg -l | grep wine | nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:06] <emanuel> im really lost here hopefully somebody can help
[01:06] <wxl> popey: naturally the practical thing here is to reboot but this is odd behavior i don't like, so naturally i want to figure out a more sustainable long term solution. that may be asking too much :)
[01:06] <wxl> emanuel: can you provide a pastebin?
[01:06] <popey> wxl, set a proper mount point in fstab for your usb drive and reboot it
[01:07] <wxl> yeah, sigh.
[01:07] <wxl> thanks for trying :)
[01:07] <icewalker> http://termin.com/4p8f
[01:07] <daftykins> icewalker: yeah i think it needs wine itself
[01:08] <emanuel> im pasting right now
[01:09] <icewalker> i tried to install wine, but i end with unmet dependencies problem and can not (won't) install wine1.6
[01:09] <emanuel> ok pasted wxl
[01:09] <wxl> emanuel: link?
[01:09] <daftykins> we're not that great at guessing the unique paste ID :)
[01:10] <daftykins> icewalker: hmm no idea then, not used it myself - maybe the #winehq folks know if there isn't an answer online
[01:10] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! Video-card guy back. Is it possible to tell how Ubuntu is utilizing my video card, or is that a dumb question? I have nvidia drivers being used (I believe the most current ones), but if, say, I'm playing a game (civ5) and things slow down, is it possible to figure out where the bottleneck is?
[01:10] <TJ-> wxl: does "cat /proc/mounts" report the same as "mount" (which can report stale stuff due to mtab) ?
[01:10] <econdudeawesome> (or even worse -- cities and skylines)
[01:10] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:11] <emanuel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254272/
[01:11] <econdudeawesome> Holy geez that's a lot of good info. http://termbin.com/w5yi
[01:12] <econdudeawesome> I think I'm in love with nc termbin.com now
[01:12] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome: +1
[01:12] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: yep right now you're booting with nomodeset which is ruining the nvidia driver, lets see which you have installed too...
[01:12] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:12] <pyios> what is ubuntu trusty?
[01:13] <reisio> pyios: an annoying codename for a specific ubuntu version
[01:13] <daftykins> actually i spoke too soon, it's using it just fine despite having nomodeset 0o
[01:13] <daftykins> pyios: 14.04
[01:13] <emanuel> 14.10 is trusty
[01:13] <econdudeawesome> http://termbin.com/dmyp
[01:13] <emanuel> yea 14.04 sorry
[01:13] <wxl> TJ-: no, it is different. the /dev/sdc stuff isn't included at all.
[01:14] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: and "cat /etc/issue" ?
[01:14] <daftykins> that one can be pasted here
[01:15] <econdudeawesome> *kicks the dust on the ground shyly* I'm on debian...
[01:15] <econdudeawesome> Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l
[01:15] <daftykins> whoops
[01:16] <reisio> econdudeawesome: heh
[01:16] <daftykins> those packages are pretty messy for the nvidia drivers though, i'd not think that is normal for even them
[01:16] <wxl> TJ-: that being said, is there any way to get mount to refresh its information?
[01:16] <pyios> what is this version Linux ubuntu 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu ?
[01:16] <reisio> pyios: hrmm?
[01:16] <pyios> and Linux vagrant-base-trusty-amd64 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu
[01:16] <k1l_> pyios: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[01:16] <daftykins> pyios: that's an outdated 14.04 install
[01:16] <TJ-> wxl: mount uses mtab as a source. see 'man umount' for avoiding its use
[01:17] <emanuel> my thing is wxl this is a gnome 3.18 app that i can not for the life of me install
[01:18] <zykotick9> wxl: "mount -a" might be helpful?
[01:18] <TJ-> wxl: did /dev/sdc1 contain a clone of the file-system in /dev/sda1? I was wondering if they're got identical labels/UUIDs, which could cause the dual mount to happen
[01:18] <wxl> TJ-: nope
[01:19] <emanuel> ive never been whipped by any install like this
[01:19] <plytro> pyios: is that first output from uname -a?
[01:19] <wxl> zykotick9: nope
[01:19] <pyios> yeah
[01:19] <plytro> that doesn't tell you anything about the version of ubuntu you are on
[01:19] <plytro> neccesarily
[01:19] <plytro> it can give clues
pyios: what gives you "lsb_release -d"?
[01:20] <TJ-> wxl: you can always just replace /etc/mtab with /proc/mounts
[01:20] <plytro> its trusty
[01:20] <pyios> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[01:20] <plytro> trusty is still current ubuntu
[01:20] <TJ-> wxl: but you need to figure out *why* /dev/sdc1 gets mounted over the root file-system
[01:20] <wxl> emanuel: i meant EVERYTHING. what commands are you trying to use, for example?
[01:20] <plytro> until what, April 2019 or something like that
[01:20] <plytro> 5 years on LTS versions
[01:20] <emanuel> ok sorry man
[01:21] <plytro> so you're on a current release, just maybe not fully apt-get upgraded
[01:22] <k1l_> pyios: plytro no matter that kernel is outdated.
[01:22] <daftykins> pyios: also the mention of vagrant suggests this system has been script installed/deployed - so done for you somehow
[01:22] <econdudeawesome> daftykins: despite my debian-ness on this rig, I appreciate the help!
[01:22] <plytro> k1l_: whats the current highest kernel in trusty?
[01:22] <k1l_> plytro: pyios http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-lts-vivid/linux-lts-vivid_3.19.0-33.38~14.04.1/changelog that is the actual version
[01:22] <daftykins> econdudeawesome: np :) i'd purge all the nvidia and start again but i don't know how things work in debian land
[01:22] <plytro> k1l_: that is a vivid kernel not trusty
[01:23] <plytro> ah nvm
[01:23] <k1l_> plytro: no. its from the 3.19 vivid backports kernel for 14.04
[01:23] <plytro> missed the 14.04 in the name
[01:24] <emanuel> well i go su,then i cd my gnome builder folder,the rest i just pasted wxl
[01:24] <wxl> emanuel: what command led to the rest coming up? clearly not just cd ing :)
[01:25] <emanuel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13254434/
[01:25] <emanuel> you can see it all there thanks for helping man
[01:25] <wxl> ah yes i see, you're compiling
[01:26] <wxl> now you come to understand why package managers are so common in the linux world
[01:26] <wxl> because lots of folks hate compiling
[01:26] <wxl> because one of the biggest issues with compiling is tracking down dependencies
[01:26] <wxl> basically you need to search the repos for the -dev files and install them
[01:27] <wxl> or you can track them down and compile them but then you'd have more dependencies to deal with
[01:27] <wxl> suffice it to say it's not really an issue with ubuntu itself
[01:27] <emanuel> ive tried to install the package from gnome.org but that fails also
[01:27] <Takumi> Paris is a warzone xD
[01:27] <wxl> you might have better, more specific help if you track down the gnome-builder support
[01:27] <pwca> I get Input/output error when attempting to delete from my external NTFS disk. what do I do to repair it?
[01:28] <daftykins> pwca: how is it connected? is it a partition on a dualboot disk?
[01:28] <wxl> bvest of luck emanuel . i gotta jet
[01:28] <daftykins> i get the feeling (without double checking) that emanuel is using a newer gnome than ships?
[01:28] <pwca> daftykins: it's a USB disk.
[01:28] <iamrohit7> recently, i've been getting these errors in dmesg (http://pastebin.com/86H83Q6A). so i went ahead and checked my disk with e2fsck. it found 71 errors on my disk. i also did a smartctl but i can't draw much information from it. http://pastebin.com/86H83Q6A can anyone tell me if i should be worried about the disk?
[01:28] <daftykins> pwca: the NTFS one? "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:29] <emanuel> yes i am daftykins gnome 3.18
[01:29] <daftykins> emanuel: so if it didn't come with whatever you installed and it came from a PPA, not surprised there are issues
[01:29] <TJ-> iamrohit7: that 2nd link was the same as the 1st :)
[01:29] <pwca> daftykins: what does that do?
[01:29] <daftykins> pwca: shares your system messages
[01:30] <iamrohit7> TJ-: here you go http://pastebin.com/ptPDKsxW
[01:30] <pwca> daftykins: I don't want to share my system messages.
[01:30] <daftykins> pwca: it'll create a link for you to paste here
[01:30] <daftykins> pwca: nothing is personal, your concern is pointless
[01:30] <pwca> nothing is personal
[01:30] <daftykins> yeah nothing in the paste
[01:30] <daftykins> open the link before you share it if you're worried.
[01:30] <emanuel> i installed ubuntu gnome 15.10 and upgraded gnome to 3.18 like you said via ppa
[01:31] <daftykins> yeah so the fact you can't find packages right now will be the fault of that PPA, you'll need to contact the maintainer / run an "apt-get update"
[01:31] <TJ-> iamrohit7: time to replace the disk. It's got unrecoverable sectors early in the disk (LBA 472 listed in the SMART log). Stop using it until you have a replacement you can use as a target for a clone operation with the 'ddresuce' tool.
[01:32] <plytro> iamrohit7: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211985
[01:32] <plytro> good price on a new ssd for you there
[01:33] <daftykins> ^ would not buy.
[01:33] <plytro> no off brands for you?
[01:33] <plytro> I would not buy as a primary drive
[01:33] <plytro> temp drive, scratch drive, transient data drive sure
[01:33] <daftykins> that chat would be better off in ##hardware
[01:33] <daftykins> ubuntu only in here :)
[01:34] <iamrohit7> TJ-: thanks. but i don't get any errors in the other partitions (i have archlinux on other system). can i boot it and use without mounting the ubuntu partition?
[01:34] <plytro> i'll rephrase to tie it back to ubuntu, hold one
[01:34] <plytro> :P
[01:34] <iamrohit7> plytro: its kinda spam.
[01:34] <daftykins> nah just stop right there
[01:35] <pwca> hello everybody. I am getting Input/output errors when trying to delete files from my external NTFS-formatted disk. what can I do to rectify this situation?
[01:35] <daftykins> iamrohit7: the whole disk is dead. backup your data and take it out
[01:35] <iamrohit7> daftykins: sure, thanks.
[01:35] <plytro> pwca: did you paste the requested output?
[01:35] <daftykins> pwca: right, so run this one instead "dmesg | tail" read that none of the information has anything to do with you... personal data... or anything, then share it - your concern is just holding up the free help here.
[01:36] <pwca> "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 999" didn't work.
[01:36] <plytro> 9999
[01:36] <daftykins> just do the first bit; "dmesg | tail"
[01:37] <pwca> http://termbin.com/xwoj
[01:37] <daftykins> so you're sing some kind of USB converter?
[01:37] <pwca> USB converter?
[01:37] <daftykins> ah no it's just an external seagate product
[01:37] <pwca> I am using an external disk connected by USB.
[01:38] <daftykins> my bad, 2am and my head was in another place
[01:38] <pwca> no problem.
[01:38] <daftykins> if it's NTFS you should use Windows to chkdsk it really
[01:38] <pwca> :(
[01:38] <plytro> pwca: quite easy really though even on linux potentially
[01:38] <plytro> go get an ievm for free
[01:38] <plytro> fire it up and chkdsk
[01:39] <pwca> ievm
[01:39] <daftykins> there is a program on ubuntu to check it, but it's not without risk
[01:39] <plytro> yes, MS gives out free vmware/virtualbox images running windows for testing various browsers
[01:39] <TJ-> iamzero: the disk is failing. Back-up or risk losing everything
[01:39] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows
[01:39] <pwca> this is a total hassle.
[01:39] <plytro> https://github.com/xdissent/ievms
[01:40] <TJ-> iamzero: sorry, tab-complete - the other user left the channel
[01:40] <pwca> I tried ntfsfix already.
[01:40] <pwca> also gparted.
[01:40] <plytro> windows is just better at dealing with windows file systems
[01:40] <plytro> they are the experts after all
[01:41] <pwca> I can't believe I am hearing this.
[01:41] <daftykins> ...why not?
[01:41] <daftykins> NTFS is proprietary, its' whole use is based on reverse engineering
[01:41] <daftykins> (whole use under Linux)
[01:41] <pwca> ok.
[01:41] <weaksauce> does monit need to be started up every time the server starts?
[01:41] <daftykins> anywho, it'd need to be mounted read-write to be able to run ntfsfix on it i'd think
[01:42] <weaksauce> or is it automatic after you set it up and type monit start $someservicename
[01:42] <pwca> hello all, I wish to reformat my external disk. what file format should I use for maximal compatibility + support for large files?
[01:42] <daftykins> weaksauce: a monitor on a GUI-less server? no
[01:42] <daftykins> oh monit, no idea what that is.
[01:42] <plytro> pwca: fat32
[01:42] <TJ-> weaksauce: if the service is enabled, and its config has no errors, it'll auto-start
[01:42] <pwca> plytro: which has limits on file size.
[01:42] <weaksauce> TJ- awesome
[01:43] <plytro> but its best for maximum compatibility out of the box everywhere
[01:43] <plytro> all of my external drives are ext4
[01:43] <plytro> but I installed tools on windows so I could use them there
[01:43] <serlo> Sup
[01:43] <plytro> any drive that needs to be swapped often is indeed fat32
[01:43] <pwca> doesn't Windows recognise ext4?
[01:43] <plytro> nope
[01:43] <plytro> wants to format it
[01:43] <daftykins> pwca: exFAT
[01:43] <pwca> pain.
[01:44] <reisio> pwca: takes 3rd party software
[01:44] <pwca> I do not have admin rights on the Windows machines I use the most.
[01:44] <reisio> pwca: sure you do
[01:44] <daftykins> exFAT supports >4GB files and works fine without any third party software (may be a single package install on ubuntu though)
[01:44] <reisio> never met a Windows machine I couldn't get admin on :p
[01:44] <pwca> ok.
[01:44] <pwca> I don't.
[01:44] <reisio> daftykins: on the literally half dozen devices that support it :p
[01:44] <plytro> and I don't think the software to read ext# needs admin
[01:45] <pwca> maybe ext4 is a good opportunity.
[01:45] <daftykins> reisio: no idea what you're claiming there, works fine across OSs
[01:45] <pwca> option, I mean. it's late.
[01:45] <daftykins> no, don't go ext4
[01:45] <daftykins> you'll be in permissions hell
[01:45] <pwca> oh, I have encountered this.
[01:46] <daftykins> use win7 to format to exFAT with a 4096KB cluster size
[01:46] <pwca> I don't have Win7.
[01:46] <reisio> daftykins: OSes aren't devices
[01:46] <daftykins> alright, well format as exFAT then
[01:46] <reisio> no wonder you have no idea :p
[01:46] <plytro> https://www.maketecheasier.com/format-exfat-in-ubuntu/
[01:46] <plytro> so in his use case we have ubuntu and windows and maybe osx
[01:46] <plytro> exfat is on all 3
[01:47] <daftykins> reisio: you bringing up 'devices' doesn't make any sense to me, so i said what was a sane reply.
[01:47] <pwca> so exfat needs extra software?
[01:47] <plytro> on linux only
[01:47] <reisio> daftykins: devices, they're things
[01:47] <pwca> so exfat requires extra software on Linux.
[01:47] <reisio> pwca: things that aren't ordinary desktop computers aren't great at exfat
[01:47] <daftykins> reisio: i sincerely hope your command about having no idea wasn't aimed at me.
[01:47] <reisio> may or may not matter to you
[01:47] <daftykins> command? comment too.
[01:47] <pwca> it doesn't, reisio.
[01:47] <reisio> daftykins: cool
[01:48] <reisio> pwca: :)
[01:48] <Dakshah> I couldn't find Ubuntu's Google code in wiki page. Does Ubuntu have one?
[01:48] <daftykins> pwca: sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse
[01:48] <daftykins> ^on 14.04
[01:48] <plytro> gparted may do it now, as of that link I gave you it didn't
[01:48] <pwca> some of the machines I use do not have internet access.
[01:48] <plytro> 2013
[01:48] <daftykins> reisio: yeah, look at that - your point was useless
[01:48] <reisio> daftykins: you're so sincere :p
[01:48] <pwca> which means that I will have to have an external USB disk with the exfat packages with me.
[01:49] <pwca> but it's a one time cost, so I guess it's OK.
[01:49] <daftykins> still love to know what 'devices' these were
[01:49] <pwca> unless it requires a billion other things.
[01:49] <daftykins> pwca: because any other Linux host wouldn't be online to install them?
[01:49] <pwca> any other?
[01:49] <reisio> daftykins: oh? Didn't seem like you were interested
[01:51] <daftykins> reisio: not considering you making it personal, no
[01:51] <reisio> you lost me, dude
[01:51] <pwca> ok. so far my best options are: reformatting to exFAT or NTFS. the former has the advantage of being salvageable on Linux and the latter has the advantage of being supported with no hustle on anything.
[01:51] <pwca> I will sleep on it and make my decision after breakfast tomorrow.
[01:51] <reisio> pwca: what was the original problem?
[01:52] <pwca> reisio: I didn't know what nc did.
[01:52] <reisio> pwca: oh you wanted an fsck for ntfs?
[01:52] <reisio> oh, mmm
[01:52] <daftykins> been over that
[01:53] <reisio> nowai
[01:53] <plytro> he didn't want to get a windows VM and use chkdsk
[01:54] <daftykins> boot media would do it too, but a fair chunk of work just to try
[01:54] <reisio> ntfsfix usually does the trick
[01:54] <pwca> human nature is to gravitate towards pleasure and to seek to avoid pain.
[01:54] <daftykins> i'd have done a SMART check if it weren't USB, might not support the query
[01:54] <pwca> the past exchange can be seen in light of that fact.
[01:54] <daftykins> reisio: we were told that was already run
[01:54] <pwca> anyway, I need to sleep.
[01:54] <reisio> daftykins: still usually does the trick :)
[01:54] <pwca> thanks.
[01:54] <OerHeks> trow away your vm and grab a fresh copy
[01:57] <reisio> mmm, fresh vm
[01:57] * reisio breathes it in
[02:00] <Technobliterator> so, I just installed an application, and now I can't find it anywhere by searching?
[02:01] <reisio> Technobliterator: dpkg -L application | grep -i bin
[02:02] <Technobliterator> "dpkg -L netbeans" doesnt give me anything
[02:02] <Technobliterator> even though I just went through the whole install process
[02:02] <plytro> Technobliterator: did you install with dpkg -i?
[02:02] <plytro> or apt-get?
[02:02] <Technobliterator> oh, no
[02:02] <reisio> Technobliterator: mistake :)
[02:02] <Technobliterator> yeep
[02:02] <Technobliterator> my bad
[02:02] <plytro> you could "sudo updatedb && locate netbeans"
[02:03] <reisio> or just find / -iname '*netbeans*'
[02:03] <reisio> (updatedb uses find anyway)
[02:03] <reisio> but probably ls /usr/bin/*beans* will suffice
[02:03] <reisio> or find /opt/ -iname '*beans*'
[02:03] <reisio> since you installed it wrong
[02:03] <plytro> I think netbeans installs in opt
[02:03] <plytro> does netbeans have a current .deb?
[02:03] <Technobliterator> .sh
[02:03] <reisio> most things have current .deb's
[02:03] <plytro> I always found ubuntu and others to lag a little behind those tools release cycle
[02:03] <plytro> netbeans/eclipse
[02:04] <reisio> I always found netbeans/eclipse to be... not desirable
[02:04] <plytro> well if writing java.....
[02:04] <plytro> you do have the option of intellij
[02:04] <reisio> ...which I always found not desirable :)
[02:04] <plytro> I guess
[02:04] <Technobliterator> I did find: "/usr/share/app-install/desktop/netbeans:netbeans.desktop" among other things by doing that
[02:05] <syntacticNaCl> +1 intellij
[02:05] <reisio> too many tittles
[02:05] <Technobliterator> how do I install using apt-get? just "sudo apt-get install netbeans"?
[02:05] <OerHeks> open dash: netbeans
[02:05] <Technobliterator> I didn't find it using that
[02:06] <OerHeks> Then i guess you have not installed the oracle java thingy?
[02:06] <Technobliterator> it created a netbeans-8.1 file in Home, yet I can't find the application
[02:06] <Technobliterator> the JDK? I installed that
[02:06] <plytro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans
[02:07] <TJ-> !info netbeans
[02:07] <Technobliterator> I don't know if I should just delete all my netbeans related stuff and install using the instructions o nthat link
[02:09] <syntacticNaCl> Technobliterator, I would use the link.
[02:09] <plytro> the packaged version is a point release behind
[02:09] <plytro> the one in the repos for wily at least
[02:09] <plytro> if you are on lts... unsure
[02:09] <Technobliterator> not sure how to delete all my current netbeans stuff first
[02:10] <plytro> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=netbeans
[02:10] <Technobliterator> since I don't know where it is :p
[02:10] <reisio> Technobliterator: you could do a find by time elapsed
[02:10] <plytro> or if you don't care about wasted disk space, just install using those
[02:10] <reisio> Technobliterator: the sure fire way would be to reinstall it using some kind of sandbox like checkinstall
[02:10] <plytro> did you download the 94mb .sh install script
[02:10] <reisio> Technobliterator: but if it was a .sh, you can probably just read hte script
[02:10] <reisio> the*
[02:11] <plytro> not sure how much space you are going to lose
[02:11] <reisio> moreover, while your package manager doesn't know where the netbeans files are, it _should_ know where _all other files are_
[02:11] <reisio> so can still differentiate, in a harder way
[02:11] <Technobliterator> I downloaded from the site, I'll use the sudo sh to install it this time
[02:15] <Technobliterator> alright, setup complete
[02:15] <Technobliterator> Yep, it works now :D
[02:15] <Technobliterator> thanks all ^.^
[02:17] <plytro> wow that link was last updated 2011
[02:28] <bofh> hi! sorry for a noob question - how can I get coreutils 8.22 instead of 8.13-3ubuntu3.3 ?
[02:31] <plytro> you on LTS?
[02:31] <plytro> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=coreutils
[02:31] <plytro> looks like the highest on 14.04 is 8.21 from offical repos
[02:32] <bofh> got some pre-built image on aruba cloud, uname says "Linux validly-http1 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux"
[02:32] <plytro> or are you further back on 12.04 LTS?
[02:32] <plytro> lsb_relase -d
[02:32] <plytro> lsb_release -d
[02:32] <bofh> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[02:32] <plytro> looks like you may be SOL
[02:33] <plytro> from offical repos
[02:33] <bofh> mm, not sure I got you
[02:33] <OerHeks> demand a fresh image with 1404 lts from that vendor https://launchpad.net/coreutils
[02:33] <bofh> never ever used ubuntu server before
[02:34] <OerHeks> prebuild sounds like heavily tweaked
[02:34] <plytro> so the offical apt repos for packages for 12.04 only go up to 8.13
[02:34] <bofh> let me see if they have one
[02:34] <plytro> if you can get 14.04 you can get coreutils 8.21
[02:34] <plytro> at most
[02:34] <plytro> if you can get an 15.10 image you can get 8.23
[02:34] <bofh> New release '14.04.1 LTS' available. Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[02:35] <bofh> perhaps I could upgrade the entire system
[02:35] <plytro> you still won't get to 8.22 though
[02:35] <plytro> even 14.04 only has 8.21
[02:35] <bofh> plytro: do you have coreutils 8.21?
[02:35] <plytro> so if you do-release-upgrade you will probably just get 8.21
[02:35] <bofh> I'm interested if 'ln' has the flag '-r' there
[02:35] <plytro> all my systems are newer than 14.04
[02:36] <bofh> if it does in 8.21 - then i'm good
[02:37] <bofh> whatever, I will upgrade and if it doesn't help - then I'll pick another image
[02:37] <bofh> thanks!
[02:37] <plytro> bofh: you can go to 15.04 if you need to also
[02:37] <plytro> from an LTS
[02:37] <OERIAS> can someone help with this: http://imgur.com/jvTazEg
[02:37] <OERIAS> ^ It doesn't let me update
[02:38] <plytro> bofh: see https://askubuntu.com/questions/618741/update-ubuntu-14-04-to-15-04
[02:38] <plytro> if 8.21 doesn't work for you 15.04 does have 8.23
[02:38] <bofh> plytro: thanks a lot!
[02:46] <bofh> plytro: okay, version 14 has ln with -r flag, so simple upgrade helped
[02:46] <theme2> Hi! Can anybody help me diagnose my computer?
[02:46] <theme2> It often crashes after I open a new tab or click a link in google chrome
[02:47] <theme2> (apparently nondeterministically)
[02:47] <theme2> Do I have to paste logs or something?
[02:47] <havoc-hive> hi =) i love you guys
[02:48] <jay__> I have a question involving Xterm
[02:48] <jay__> Could anyone help me with that?
[02:48] <inteus> !ask | jay__
[02:48] <jay__> Okay, is there any difference between "Xterm" and "Terminal Emulator"
[02:49] <plytro> jay__: likely yes
[02:49] <inteus> two different programs
[02:49] <plytro> Terminal Emulator could be gnome-terminal
[02:49] <jay__> I mean I know they are different programs but whats their difference in functionality?
[02:49] <jay__> Oh
[02:50] <plytro> you could check
[02:50] <plytro> open an emulator
[02:50] <plytro> run xterm
[02:50] <plytro> and then run gnome-terminal
[02:50] <plytro> yes they have different functionality
[02:50] <plytro> however the command line will behave the same in both
[02:50] <plytro> to an extent depending on your .bashrc vs .bash_profile and how they are setup
[02:51] <plytro> some people find it helpful to run gnome-terminal with the prefernce of "Run as login shell" or whatever it is labeled
[02:51] <jay__> Actually don't know what that means, really don't know anything on Linux honestly
[02:51] <theme2> My computer *sometimes* hangs (and I have to force shutdown) when I open a new tab or click a link in google chrome. I can't reliably reproduce it. How should I diagnose this problem?
[02:51] <plytro> xterm is older and lacks some newer features that some people like/expect
[02:52] <plytro> user terminal emulator, you'll be happier if you're new
[02:52] <plytro> there are a number of terminal emulators for x
[02:53] <plytro> my old devops guy used rxvt
[02:53] <plytro> I use xfce4-terminal
[02:53] <jay__> Well I got Xubuntu and it came with a terminal just called "Terminal Emulator"
[02:53] <plytro> that is xfce4-terminal most likely then
[02:53] <theme2> btw when my computer hangs, I can move my mouse cursor, but I can't do anything else at all (which is weird)
[02:53] <plytro> thats just the label in the menu
[02:53] <jay__> Do you know the way to find out the exact name then?
[02:54] <plytro> actually you can do help -> about and see what it says
[02:54] <plytro> for me in xfce it tells me its GNOME Terminal
[02:55] <havoc-hive> does anyone know how to configure a logitech unify reciever on ubuntu?
[02:56] <jay_> Whoops, I accidentally left
[02:56] <plytro> havoc-hive: no more than google can tell me
[02:56] <jay_> At the top, it says GNU bash
[02:56] <plytro> no, I mean in the menus you use with the mouse
[02:57] <Bashing-om> jay__: Be aware there is no one best, here are more ; 'xterm' (main) , 'kterm' (universe), 'bogl-bterm' (main), 'pterm' (universe), 'torque-client-x11' (universe), 'qterm' (universe), 'torque-client' (universe), 'aterm-ml' (universe), 'aterm' (universe) . That are readily available .
[02:59] <plytro> jay_: or if you have a prompt and only one terminal window open you could do ps us|grep term
[02:59] <plytro> and find the terminal app name
[03:02] <OerHeks> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/five-alternative-terminal-emulator-apps-for-ubuntu or more recent with some nice comments http://www.tecmint.com/linux-terminal-emulators/
[03:04] <plytro> I just use the default for my window manager
[03:28] <thorie> hello, im getting error messages from ubuntu saying my /boot is full (100%) ... how can i solve this? i saw there are a lot of various initrd.img files and such, but i don't know what is deletable at all
[03:31] <plytro> try running apt-get autoremove
[03:31] <plytro> should clean up old unused kernels from there
[03:33] <cdk_> has any one used chrome remote desktop?
[03:37] <old1> Does ubuntu have handbrake batch or is there a link fo a script etc that will allow me to crunch vid files from a dir???...
[03:38] <bazhang> !info handbrake | old1
[03:39] <old1> yea i have handbrake just didn't know if anyone had a script for it on the command line or other that would allow me to crunch vids from dir a to dir b on the fly...
[03:39] <bazhang> try the handbrake channel
[03:40] <bazhang> /msg alis list handbrake to find it
[03:40] <JohnDoe123> Hi! I need some serious help. I just created a Ubuntu Live CD and installed Ubuntu on my only disk, a perfectly healthy SSD. Everything went just fine, but within 10 minutes things starts to crash. The additional driver thingie and something else both generated an error and something about closing unexpectedly. What can I do? :/
[03:42] <old1> doesn't have to be handbrake just looking for a script/binary to crunch vids in ubuntu???
[03:44] <Bomber4Chats> Hey, what's the folder location for kubuntu for default config? (or for plasma). I'm having login issues, and I already know I has to do with bad config files (config thinks I have an external monitor but I don't)
[03:44] <plytro> old1: that isn't ubuntu specific
[03:44] <old1> /msg alis list
[03:46] <Bomber4Chats> Usr/bin I think
[03:47] <glenn> /join #!!!!!!l
[03:47] <glenn> kjlih
[03:48] <JohnDoe123> Hi! I need some serious help. I just created a Ubuntu Live CD and installed Ubuntu on my only disk, a perfectly healthy SSD. Everything went just fine, but within 10 minutes things starts to crash. The additional driver thingie and something else both generated an error and something about closing unexpectedly. What can I do? :/
[03:49] <plytro> reinstall?
[03:50] <plytro> thats one option
[03:50] <plytro> probably won't do much though
[03:50] <JohnDoe123> What do you think is the problem?
[03:51] <OERIAS> Can someone help me with this problem: http://i.imgur.com/p5wGTp0.png
[03:51] <OERIAS> It will not let me apply the updates
[03:51] <plytro> JohnDoe123: no clue what the problem may be based on your description
[03:52] <JohnDoe123> plytro: I can't replicate it and then give you the crash log?
[03:52] <Rave1> JohnDoe123, most likly video driver issue
[03:52] <plytro> OERIAS: what updates? chrome?
[03:52] <JohnDoe123> Rave1: Is there anything I can do?
[03:52] <old1> well the handbrake channel is zero help oh well...
[03:52] <plytro> you could always open a terminal and do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <plytro> with sudo on both of those
[03:53] <JohnDoe123> plytro: Do you mean me?
[03:53] <tawan> Accidentally left "remember forever" when opening an encrypted drive. Need the system to forget this and re-lock the drive - any ideas? Seahorse doesn't seem to help.
[03:53] <plytro> JohnDoe123: that was directed at OERIAS
[03:53] <JohnDoe123> plytro: OK.
[03:53] <JohnDoe123> Rave1: That sounds solveable... What do you want me to try?
[03:53] <Rave1> JohnDoe123, install the proper video drivers.. but i dont use ubuntu so really cant help with details no how they do it
[03:53] <plytro> JohnDoe123: did you enable the propietary drivers?
[03:54] <plytro> and then things started to crash?
[03:54] <isReKT2000> OERIAS, enable it in the settings. most likely one of the packages are non-free, or i'd rather do what plytro said if you don't want to dig in the settings
[03:54] <JohnDoe123> Rave1: I don't know which one to choose. plytro: No, I'm still using the default settings on EVERYTHING.
[03:55] <isReKT2000> Which video card do you have??
[03:55] <JohnDoe123> GeForce GTX 660.
[03:55] <JohnDoe123> NVIDIA.
[03:55] <Bomber4Chats> Anyone know where the default config files for plasma exist?
[03:55] <OERIAS> plytro, It is a general system updates
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Bomber4Chats: maybe the #kubuntu guys know?
[03:56] <isReKT2000> 660. Okay, I'll look at it
[03:56] <plytro> OERIAS: either do the apt-get stuff as root or sudo them or find the settings in the gui (note I have no idea where those check boxes are)
[03:57] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Tell me if you need an image of what my additional drivers list is like.
[03:57] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, that's later if other things are causing problems
[03:57] <isReKT2000> 32-bit or 64-bit?
[03:57] <OERIAS> plytro, find what?
[03:57] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: 64.
[03:58] <plytro> OERIAS: anything in the gui honestly
[03:58] <OERIAS> You're not making sense
[03:58] <Bomber4Chats> The answer was .local/share/kscreen
[03:59] <OERIAS> It is telling me that I need authenticate these packages
[03:59] <plytro> OERIAS: open a terminal window
[03:59] <plytro> then type sudo apt-get update
[04:00] <plytro> then when that is done type "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Bomber4Chats
[04:01] <tawan> Accidentally left "remember forever" when opening an encrypted drive. Need the system to forget this and re-lock the drive - any ideas? Seahorse doesn't seem to help.
[04:02] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Are you still there?
[04:02] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, yeah
[04:02] <isReKT2000> ubuntu version?
[04:02] <OERIAS> plytro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256540/
[04:02] <OERIAS> ^ Check that out
[04:02] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Whatever the latest LTS is. 14.04?
[04:02] <isReKT2000> 14.04.3 I believe.
[04:03] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: That's it.
[04:03] <plytro> OERIAS: just run "sudo apt-get upgrade" now
[04:04] <plytro> since the update had the gpg errors the && failed and it didn't run the next command
[04:07] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, Can't find anything in the repos, so you can download the driver .run over here: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/92826
[04:07] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Is that the same as http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/92826/en-us ?
[04:08] <isReKT2000> pretty sure
[04:09] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: I don't think I've ever installed anything on Ubuntu before. What do I do with the file?
[04:10] <isReKT2000> Single click on the file. Does it show as a Shell script?
[04:10] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: It is a .run file and file properties says shell script.
[04:10] <isReKT2000> Run it then.
[04:11] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: The thing is... I don't know how.
[04:11] <isReKT2000> Right-click and click Open?
[04:12] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: It just opens in Leafpad.
[04:12] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: it'd be better to install Ubuntu packages than doing a manual installation
[04:12] <isReKT2000> (my linux skills are very rusty)
[04:12] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Do you want to help me?
[04:13] <JohnDoe123> I'm fresh out of Windows camp.
[04:13] <isReKT2000> TJ-, I can't find any nvidia ppa's or things for the driver version 352.55
[04:13] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: sure can. which Ubuntu release is it?
[04:13] <TJ-> isReKT2000: JohnDoe123 we have a 'special' GPU drivers only PPA maintained now, at https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[04:13] <isReKT2000> 14.04.3, he said
[04:14] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Yes, he's right. 14.04.3 x64.
[04:14] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: So I visit that link and then what?
[04:14] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update"
[04:15] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Perfect. But one question, why do I avoid the additional drivers menu?
[04:15] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: once this PPA is installed and apt aware of it, 'ubuntu-drivers' tooling should see the most recent driver package from the PPA
[04:16] <isReKT2000> He has a GTX 660 however...
[04:16] <isReKT2000> 352 is the latest
[04:16] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Is what isReKT2000 just said messing it up?
[04:17] <plytro> OERIAS: things better?
[04:17] <TJ-> The PPA has nvidia-355 and -358 for 14.04
[04:17] <isReKT2000> All we need is 352.55 thoug
[04:17] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: if you've run those commands I gave you, we can now check which driver the system thinks is the best available
[04:18] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Give me a minute to run it and we'll see.
[04:18] <jr-rescue> My hard drive died, I bougth an external hard drive, and I'm trying to copy /dev/sda1 using DDRescue GUI, but I keep getting a "Could not unmount disk /dev/sda1"; can anyone help?
[04:18] <isReKT2000> if it isn't right though - apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-352
[04:18] <isReKT2000> (if you added the ppa)
[04:19] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: One minute. :)
[04:19] <jr-rescue> (I don't believ I have anything on /dev/sda mounted)
[04:19] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, Okay ;)
[04:19] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: once those commands are done you check what's available with "ubuntu-drivers devices | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit" and give us the pastebin link it provides.
[04:20] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: OK, so "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update" is now run. Next step?
[04:20] <jr-rescue> *bump*
[04:20] <isReKT2000> the pastebin package name is clever
[04:20] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: give 'ubuntu-drivers' a few seconds; it takes its time!
[04:20] <isReKT2000> pasteb init
[04:20] <isReKT2000> pastebin it
[04:20] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: I hope you have pastebinit installed. If not, do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[04:21] <isReKT2000> you get used to apt real quick
[04:21] <jr-rescue> (I can use ddrescue [without the GUI])
[04:21] <Hulio> hi guys
[04:21] <Hulio> how are you doing tonight?
[04:21] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I'm stuck on your second step. What do I do with "ubuntu-drivers"?
[04:22] <JohnDoe123> It gives me some usage message.
[04:22] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: Just in case, first do: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[04:22] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: OK.
[04:22] <Hulio> how to list disks?
[04:22] <Hulio> lsdld?
[04:22] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, do the command after installing pastebinit ubuntu-drivers devices | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit
[04:23] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: Then "ubuntu-drivers devices | tee /dev/stderr | pastebinit"
[04:23] <franklin> how do I change the theme again in MATE?
[04:23] <jr-rescue> Hulio: Try the GUI program "Disks" in Dash
[04:23] <TJ-> Hulio: "sudo lsblk -f"
[04:23] <Hulio> good thanks guys
[04:23] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: OK. TJ-: OK.
[04:23] <JohnDoe123> Hold on.
[04:23] <Hulio> i prefer Tj answer
[04:23] <franklin> from mate menu, what's the program called to select theme
[04:23] <franklin> ?
[04:24] <jr-rescue> Guys, I'm desperate; can someone help?
[04:24] <OERIAS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256764/
[04:24] <TJ-> jr-rescue: if a mount is reported check with "grep sda /proc/mounts"
[04:24] <Hulio> brb
[04:24] <HackerII> franklin, juat right click on the desktop
[04:24] <HackerII> just
[04:24] <OERIAS> plytro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256764/
[04:25] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256765/ isReKT2000: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256765/
[04:25] <OERIAS> No things are just as bad as before
[04:25] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: you see line 12 says recommended: "driver : nvidia-358 - third-party free recommended"
[04:25] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: You can now do "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" and it'll do it for you
[04:26] <jr-rescue> TJ- THANKS SO MUCH! It reports "/dev/sda1 /mnt ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 0"; sorry to be a pain, but how do I unmount it?
[04:26] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: AWESOME. Hold on.
[04:26] <TJ-> jr-rescue: "sudo umount /mnt"
[04:26] <isReKT2000> it probably won't be stable though
[04:26] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Too late now! Why did you have to tell me that? :(
[04:26] <TJ-> jr-rescue: and I'd recommend NOT using the GUI; you'll have more info/control from the command-line especially if the rescue is interupted
[04:26] <jr-rescue> "umount: /mnt: device is busy." - YIKES!
[04:27] <TJ-> isReKT2000: why would it not be stable?
[04:27] <jr-rescue> TJ-: Will do in a sec after I get /dev/sda1 unmounted
[04:27] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: if you do experience instability, it's easy to uninstall that version and install one of the others
[04:27] <isReKT2000> 352 is the latest official driver for his graphics card though
[04:27] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I hope so! :o
[04:27] <TJ-> jr-rescue: looks like you have something operating on /mnt/
[04:28] <TJ-> isReKT2000: The driver packages specifically *claim* the device IDs they support; the latest is 358
[04:28] <isReKT2000> TJ-, still is easy to uninstall though, as you said
[04:28] <jr-rescue> TJ-: what could be operating on it and how do I stop it? (Sorry to be a pain)
[04:28] <TJ-> jr-rescue: have you changed directory so you have a terminal shell, or some GUI program, with its curent working directory in /mnt/
[04:29] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: The new drivers did nothing to fix the tearing in my browser. :(
[04:29] <isReKT2000> TJ-, https://gyazo.com/041d6379f382088684cf5042a9363ca1
[04:29] <TJ-> jr-rescue: also try "sudo umount -l /mnt" -- that does a lazy unmount, then check with "grep sda /proc/mounts" again
[04:29] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: you'll need to reboot the system for the new drivers to be loaded. Did you do that?
[04:29] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: No, I'll do that now then. Brb!
[04:30] <isReKT2000> and do nvidia-xconfig as well maybe
[04:30] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: What does that do?
[04:30] <TJ-> That's done as part of the package installation
[04:30] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: TJ-: Brb. Reboot!
[04:30] <isReKT2000> TJ-, ;) I learn more than one thing per day, I'm happy about that lol
[04:31] <TJ-> isReKT2000: that's the point of packaging, automating the install and config so users don't try it themselves and mess it up
[04:31] <Al3x_10m> jr-rescue: you could try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-forcefully-unmount-a-disk-partition.html
[04:32] <jr-rescue> TJ-: It's unmounted now, thanks so much. I'm looking up how to do ddrescue from the command line
[04:32] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: The tearing is still here. :(
[04:32] <swift110-phone> Hey
[04:32] <TJ-> jr-rescue: If the hard drive is failing, is there any reason not to rescue the entire drive, or do you only need the file-system that is in partition #1 ?
[04:33] <jr-rescue> Do I need to make a partition forst to copt /dev/sda1 ?
[04:33] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, anything else wrong?
[04:33] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: does the PC have hybrid Optimus GPUs
[04:33] <isReKT2000> if so, you need to install bumblebee
[04:33] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: Nothing yet, but I haven't tried anything. TJ-: How do I figure that one out?
[04:33] <TJ-> jr-rescue: you can have ddrescue write into a file if you want to.
[04:33] <jr-rescue> TJ-: No reason not to rescue the entire drive
[04:33] <jr-rescue> HOW? (please!)
[04:33] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[04:34] <TJ-> jr-rescue: see "man ddrecue" note how the synopsis shows "ddrescue [options] infile outfile [logfile]"
[04:34] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Can I send it to you in a private message?
[04:35] <TJ-> jr-rescue: so that means you *could* do "ddrescue /dev/sda1 /path/to/rescued-data.file" for example
[04:35] <JohnDoe123> Or does it not contain anything private?
[04:35] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: it's fine, nothing private in the log
[04:35] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13256845/
[04:35] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: it shows what happens when the GUI X server starts
[04:35] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Ahh.
[04:35] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: What's bumblebee?
[04:36] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: OK, thankfully no Optimus! A single Nvidia GPU
[04:36] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Woo!
[04:36] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, basically optimus drivers
[04:36] <isReKT2000> but you don't need it
[04:36] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: So I don't need it now then.
[04:36] <JohnDoe123> Perfect.
[04:36] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: Any solution for the browser tearing when scrolling?
[04:37] <isReKT2000> Does it do it when scrolling quickly
[04:38] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: that sounds like a v-sync issue
[04:38] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: It does it now and then. I can't tell how fast I scroll.
[04:38] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I can't live with it!
[04:38] <isReKT2000> Browser?
[04:38] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: in the dash type "nvidia X settings" and run the tool
[04:39] <isReKT2000> If it's Firefox that's usual lol
[04:39] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: NVIDIA X Server Settings?
[04:39] <vishal_> can anybody help me for creating dual boot ??
[04:39] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: go to the OpenGL Settings tab, and tell us what the Sync to VBlank setting is
[04:39] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: Yes, that is correct
[04:39] <franklin> dude you're better of going to stackoverflow
[04:40] <vishal_> ubuntu and windows
[04:40] <vishal_> ohh
[04:40] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Sync to VBlank is checked.
[04:40] <vishal_> thanks
[04:40] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: try disabling it as a test. if it doesn't help, enable it again
[04:41] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Do I need to restart Firefox or reboot?
[04:42] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I didn't restart anything, but the tearing is still there.
[04:43] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: There are 2 locations where the settings need modifying, sometimes. Here's a link explaining it: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/how-to-fix-video-tearing-in-videos-nvidia-ubuntu/
[04:43] <isReKT2000> boot a ubuntu live cd, select language and, select "Try Ubuntu before installing." When it boots up go to the installer. On the disk selection, just choose "Install alongside <Windows version>" and you go through the setup.
[04:43] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: But it's not even videos. EVERYTHING is tearing. Does it still apply?
[04:44] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, Most likely restart Firefox
[04:44] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: yes.
[04:44] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: OK. TJ-: Should I try to restart Firefox first?
[04:44] <isReKT2000> it depends however
[04:44] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: the cause is when the application is updating the screen fraebuffer as the GPU is in the middle of copying the bits to the monitor - so you get some from frame X, and others from frame X+1
[04:45] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: I'm not sure it is needed, but log-out and log-in will make sure the X server had restarted and the settings should be set
[04:45] <isReKT2000> TJ-, nothing better than not having to restart :)
[04:46] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I've bookmarked your link, but I'll trying logging out and back in, so brb. isReKT2000: Brb.
[04:48] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: Argh! Stupid tearing is still there.
[04:48] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, quick tip: you can use a real irc client (I'm sure there is one in the repos
[04:48] <isReKT2000> but you don't have to
[04:49] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: From what I'm reading, the cause is in the Compiz compositor when it is active. The technical term apparently is "Unredirected windows"
[04:49] <isReKT2000> ubuntu use compiz, yes
[04:49] <JohnDoe123> isReKT2000: I'll worry about that later. TJ-: "anon@PC:~$ compiz --version The program 'compiz' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install compiz-core"!
[04:49] <isReKT2000> weird...
[04:50] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: I need to confess something to you two. I'm... using... Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS. I thought you wouldn't help me if I came in here asking for Lubuntu help. I'm sorry.
[04:51] <isReKT2000> Oh, fine.
[04:51] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: I think part of the problem is you've got a relatively old (don't shout!) release of Ubuntu and the GPU/graphics tools have moved on a lot since 14.04 was released. Because it has Long Term Support however, the more recent kernels and Xorg drivers are backported to 14.04. You could try updating to those.
[04:51] <TJ-> !hwe | JohnDoe123
[04:51] <isReKT2000> Lubuntu is a direct cousin of Ubuntu however
[04:52] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: if you're using Lubuntu, I don't thnk it ever uses a compositor
[04:52] <isReKT2000> As advertised by Canonical of course, LTS versions get 5 years of full support
[04:53] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: So should I still try to update the kernel and Xorg drivers if I'm using Lubuntu LTS?
[04:53] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: usually tearing goes away when the compositor is disabled, so if that is the case on your system (no compositing) I'm surprised you're seeing tearing. That makes we wonder if the accelerated drivers are fully working
[04:53] <isReKT2000> 352 had a problem that made the desktop unusable though
[04:53] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I always manage to get these weird problems.
[04:54] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: Do "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils"
[04:54] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: What do you two think would be the next appropiate step?
[04:54] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: OK.
[04:54] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: once that package is installed do "glxinfo | grep direct" and tell us if direct rendering is enabled
[04:54] <ComputerChic> Hey all
[04:55] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Seems to get stuck on "0% [Waiting for headers]"...
[04:56] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: I complained too fast. It's done now.
[04:56] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: that's the package updater :)
[04:56] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: "anon@PC:~$ glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: Yes"
[04:56] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Is that the info you wanted from that command?
[04:56] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: good, that's working correctly
[04:57] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Should I enable Sync to VBlank again?
[04:58] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: yes.
[04:58] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: Done!
[04:58] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: But I REALLY need the tearing to go away. I can live with much, but not that.
[04:59] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: I'm reading some posts in the ubuntu forums from users of XFCE (Xubuntu) saying that they replaced/installed the compositor "compton" and ran it using "compton --vsync opengl" to fix their tearing issues. I'm not sure how relevant that is to your situ, but it may be worth trying. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2212418
[05:00] <isReKT2000> JohnDoe123, it is worth a try, since you want it gone from your browser
[05:01] <JohnDoe123> TJ-: isReKT2000: A post in that thread states "Works just fine, so I now I guess it's just a matter of putting compton in the startup applications Cheers guys"... Do I have to do it on each boot?
[05:02] <isReKT2000> put it in the startup applications and it will do it everytime
[05:04] <TJ-> JohnDoe123: a different solution on comment #5 of that thread suggests editing "/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf" and altering "xserver-command=" to be "xserver-command=X -bs" (which disables use of the backing-store buffer)
[05:05] <mancomunado> What can I perform when systemd stucks at "[ok] Starting system message bus: dbus". And last resouce to boot is "xinit startx"? Only "startx" shows "kdm cannot open theme file !!! to be replace by desktop base @@@ mail system possiby broken". And "exec startkde" closes the terminal.
[05:06] <TJ-> mancomunado: if you're seeing 'startx' then that isn't the standard package-installed GUI startup. Presumably you've set it up yourself
[05:06] <mancomunado> What?
[05:07] <mancomunado> There's no boot.
[05:07] <mancomunado> I have to type manually "xinit startkde" to start the machine or get stuck there forever.
[05:08] <ghostboarder> hey guys, i have an orphan vm on my iscsi san (using esxi 5.1) that i am trying to make sure contains no data. Booting from the Server 2012 iso shows 'unallocated space' when commencing setup, and booting from a Ubuntu 14 iso doesnt show the volume at all. Is it relatively safe to say at this point that the volume contains no data?
[05:17] <TJ-> mancomunado: is that 15.10 ?
[05:20] <TJ-> mancomunado: you first might want to try booting to the console so you can control/test the GUI start-up. To do that, edit the kernel command-line at the GRUB boot-menu adding "systemd.unit=multiuser.target". That'll prevent the GUI starting. You can then log-in at the console and then test GUI with "sudo systemctl start sddm.service" (if the system is Kubuntu) or "sudo systemctl start lightdm.service" if the
[05:20] <TJ-> system is Ubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu etc
[05:25] <mancomunado> TJ-, I already login on consoles. that's the whole problem
[05:25] <mancomunado> GUI is necessary to boot manually though startx
[05:28] <TJ-> mancomunado: 'startx' isn't the way to start the desktop environment though, the display manager packages do that. If they fail, look at the log files in /var/log/ for clues as to why they fail
[05:31] <mancomunado> TJ-, I beleive there's something related to rc.d
[05:35] <Bobozoid> I need help
[05:36] <MikeA2> Hello! How can I mage GParted to use the entire USB? http://i.imgur.com/X8uSC2V.png
[05:37] <MikeA2> It says used 14.52 MiB?
[05:38] <OerHeks> MikeA2, there seems to be no unused space, so the missing 1.48 Mib is in the fat filesystem and MBR.
[05:38] <Bobozoid> Got sick and tired of Thunderbird messing up, installed evolution, set up accounts, all settings are right, but still can not connect, getting error messages: peer cut connection...
[05:39] <MikeA2> OerHeks: Wait. No unused space? Don't you mean used space?
[05:40] <Bobozoid> I don't even know what I am supposed to be looking for here!!!!!
[05:41] <MikeA2> OerHeks: Are you there?
[05:43] <OerHeks> MikeA2, oh reading it wrong, 14.52 in use, maybe hidden files like . or ..
[05:45] <blooregard> Greetings everyone. Does anyone know of any Linux tools that can view a Windows memory.dmp file?
[06:04] <shurtagul> [23:56] <shurtagul> So why when I executed "sudo apt-get purge wine*" does the shell go ahead and purge all my applications?
[06:08] <c|oneman> shurtagul: I think its because purge also deletes related applications
[06:09] <c|oneman> why the *?
[06:10] <c|oneman> I guess purge just app +config files, so thats not why. It must be your asterisk
[06:12] <c_smith_> soooo I've a question about a partitioning setup, I'm looking to chop down on some unused space in my root partition with my next install (that I'm doin now) and re-allocate it to /home, would 80GB suffice even for have a good deal of games installed (not counting stuff in Steam that goes into the user folder under /home)?
[06:13] <shurtagul> cloneman: because I alse had winetricks I wanted to delete, I thought it purges everything that startes with "wine", what the asterisk is usually used for. I know its done this before and I always forget it. Dunno how to safely remove it :/
[06:14] <c|oneman> well, can you just purge wine and then winetricks without using the *
[06:14] <c|oneman> unless you have a lot of other packages that start with wine for some reason?
[06:14] <Luke78923> Hey! I just created a fresh Ubuntu Live USB. When I boot, there's two USB options in the list. One with UEFI in front of it and the other one without UEFI. Which do I choose and why? What are the differences?
[06:15] <c_smith_> Luke78923: one is using the UEFI setup that PC has to boot where the other is using the old MBR/BIOS mode to boot, as to which to use, it's mainly based on personal preference and hardware constraints to an extent
[06:16] <Luke78923> c_smith_: Oh, okay. So I can't mess things up by choosing the wrong one?
[06:16] <Luke78923> Or, "wrong" one.
[06:16] <c_smith_> Luke78923: you can, but only if you're intending to dual-boot with an already installed OS like Windows
[06:17] <Luke78923> c_smith_: I'm done with Windows. :D Time for another question?
[06:17] <c_smith_> Luke78923: ah, then it really boils down to what you want and how big your HDD is mainly
[06:17] <Luke78923> 250GB SSD. Time for another question? :P
[06:17] <c_smith_> Luke78923: MBR/BIOS only supports up to 2TB iirc
[06:18] <c_smith_> Luke78923: ask away!
[06:18] <Luke78923> c_smith_: After creating the Live USB, I opened the USB in GParted. It's formatted as FAT32. Is that all okay?
[06:18] <c_smith_> Luke78923: yup, perfectly normal, and exactly why it shows up twice,
[06:19] <Luke78923> c_smith_: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat! :D
[06:19] <Luke78923> c_smith_: Nothing can stop me now! >:)
[06:19] <c_smith_> Luke78923: hey man, Ubuntu's pretty nice,
[06:19] <Luke78923> c_smith_: It can't possible be worse than what Windows is turning into.
[06:19] <Luke78923> Or, is.
[06:20] <c_smith_> Luke78923: agreed. oh, one more thing, if you want to just chat, there #ubuntu-offtopic on this server,
[06:20] <Luke78923> c_smith_: I'm done with questions for now, so I'll just shut up. Thanks!
[06:20] <Luke78923> Bye!
[06:21] <Hafez> salam
[06:22] <Hafez> hi
[06:45] <guest-LSDVhh> hi
[06:46] <greedlexer> It's slow. Islam ala
[06:48] <greedlexer> French welcomed the Islamic comrades
[07:04] <mofaph> Hi, all. I add an indicator icon, how can I add notification messages?
[07:10] <iBurley> I know this isn't specifically an Ubuntu question, but for mpv (or any video player, really) should I be using alsa or pulse for audio output?
[07:11] <odroid> how to set time from terminal from my.ntp.server.org?
[07:11] <odroid> ntpdate not get effect
[07:12] <SirLagz> iBurley: personally, I'd use ALSA. one less layer than pulse.
[07:12] <SirLagz> odroid: check again? ntpdate takes a sec for it to change the time
[07:14] <iBurley> SirLagz, alright, thanks, that's what I was leaning towards as well.
[07:15] <SirLagz> iBurley: no probs
[07:17] <odroid> is there are any way remove chromium (default browser in xubuntu) checks ssl security? It's can't open even google.com if system date is old
[07:17] <wileee> apt-get remove or purge
[07:18] <odroid> i can't remove chromium: there are no good browser (opera) at armv71 dists
[07:23] <odroid> how to find out what branch of ubuntu i am running now?
[07:23] <odroid> uname - a don't shows that
[07:30] <bindi> odroid: lsb_release -a
[07:31] <odroid> Command 'lsb_release' from package 'lsb-release' (main)
[07:31] <odroid> lsb_realease: command not found
[07:32] <bindi> you mistyped it...
[07:33] <odroid> oh yes, sorry it is "saucy"
[07:34] <wileee> odroid, saucy is end of life, you need an upgrade
[07:35] <odroid> am not sure that there are update for ARM64
[07:35] <wileee> odroid, hows about you check, your not supported here with saucy is all.
[07:36] <odroid> i can't make working DVB-TV stick on
[07:36] <cristian_c> hello
[07:37] <hamdroid> i installed vnc on my ubuntu vps, i can run the server from the root account without issues. im now trying to run it from a differnt account but i get this error vncserver: Wrong type or access mode of /home/vncacct/.vnc.
[07:37] <cristian_c> I'd like to use edid-decode to set a new video resolution properly
[07:38] <cristian_c> If I type 'xrandr --props | edid-decode', I get also: ' No header found'
[07:39] <cristian_c> but, previously in the output, I read also: header: 53 63 72 65 65 6e 20 30
[07:41] <cristian_c> then, after much information, I read: ' EDID block does not conform at all! Block has broken checksum Bad year of manufacture Bad week of manufacture Manufacturer name field contains garbage'
[07:41] <cristian_c> How could I solve this issue?
[07:42] <cristian_c> How can I use properly edid-decode to set a new resolution?
[07:42] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:43] <cristian_c> odroid: are ypu using an odroid board?
[07:43] <maxtimbo> Hello, I have a hot key that locks the screen. I would like to map that key to suspend. How can I achieve this?
[07:44] <odroid> odroid-u2
[07:44] <cristian_c> odroid: what repositories are you using?
[07:44] <odroid> i want make working on it usb-tv stick
[07:44] <odroid> now repository not working
[07:45] <cristian_c> odroid: ?
[07:45] <odroid> am working on rebuild sources.list
[07:45] <cristian_c> odroid: cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[07:46] <cristian_c> maxtimbo: lock = hibernate?
[07:48] <maxtimbo> cristian_c, lock just locks the screen. there is no actual hibernation. With suspenc the processor shuts off and the session is stored in ... ram or the ssd...
[07:48] <odroid> cristian_c: http://paste.debian.net/332629/
[07:49] <cristian_c> odroid: debian? O.o
[07:50] <odroid> cristian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258060/
[07:50] <cristian_c> odroid: you are using the usual ubuntu repositories
[07:50] <cristian_c> *common
[07:51] <cristian_c> odroid: I didn't know they work on an arm machine
[07:51] <cristian_c> O.o
[07:51] <cristian_c> technically they are not arm binaries
[07:51] <odroid> they not work like as default from clear install '(
[07:52] <ubuntu___> Hi, i am having troubles formatting a 5TB external HDD (Intenso Memory Center). gdisk shows size of about 36 TB(TiB)
[07:53] <cristian_c> odroid: wait a moment
[07:55] <cristian_c> odroid: maybe, you should use deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/
[07:55] <cristian_c> for your reposutories
[07:56] <cristian_c> in place of archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[07:57] <maxtimbo> ubuntu___, you have to use a certain filesystem type for big hdds. I forget what exactly it is but it's ext3/4
[07:57] <odroid> now i change it i to http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258081/ apt-get update still running
[07:57] <cristian_c> maxtimbo: can yout try xev?
[07:58] <maxtimbo> xev?
[07:58] <wileee> gpt
[07:58] <cristian_c> odroid: wait
[07:59] <cristian_c> maxtimbo: yes, it's a tool
[07:59] <cristian_c> !info xev
[08:00] <maxtimbo> Oh I know what you're talking about...
[08:00] <cristian_c> odroid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258093/
[08:00] <maxtimbo> mapping the key isn't the problem. I'm looking for the command to suspend the pc so that I can map it to a custom keymap
[08:01] <cristian_c> ok
[08:01] <cristian_c> !suspend
[08:02] <cristian_c> !info pm-utils
[08:03] <cristian_c> maxtimbo: pm-suspend is the way
[08:04] <maxtimbo> it sure is
[08:04] <maxtimbo> ty
[08:04] <cristian_c> man pm-suspend
[08:06] <maxtimbo> ok so that command has to run as super user
[08:06] <maxtimbo> I know there is a way to enable sudo commands to run without a password...
[08:13] <mate_> Hey guys. Just upgraded to 15.10. I have some problems with catalyst. The resolution is different. xrandr shows only this one as available. I can't open amdccle. It tells me to reinstall or drun the command aticonfig. With aticonfig it tells me to reinstall, it says can't open something. Now I am installing open source drivers. Can I go back to the catalyst one?
[08:14] <mate_> I will reboot now.
[08:16] <jost> Hi! I have a very slow internet connection, but want to update to 15.10. How can I just download the packages, but not yet install them? I want to control the time the updates are installed manually, but the download needs to run overnight
[08:18] <maxtimbo> jost, you can download the image from the website and then burn a disk
[08:19] <maxtimbo> jost, install chuck it in like normal, restart and it will ask at some point if you simply want to upgrade
[08:19] <jost> maxtimbo: what about downloading the stuff to disk, into the apt cache instead? Would be much easier
[08:19] <maxtimbo> jost, your call, bro
[08:20] <maxtimbo> jost, that's the way i have done it in the past
[08:20] <jost> maxtimbo: ok :-)
[08:20] <mate_> I guess I wasn't using the catalyst driver before although it was installed. I couldn't open amdccle, it was throwing an error. I would like to know how to install catalyst and get it working. I read there is a problem with gcc5 and it needs to be compiled with gcc4.9? I saw an answer at stack exchange(http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/241893/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-15-9-on-ubuntu-15-10) I would like to know if I install
[08:20] <mate_> catalyst from the drivers menu it will be correctly instlaled. Or is there something else to make it working?
[08:23] <OERIAS> can someone help with this http://imgur.com/2cZPwZg . I can't update the packages
[08:25] <XenuLives> When does Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey get released?
[08:30] <OERIAS> XenuLives !ops
[08:31] <OERIAS> !ops
[08:31] <wileee> OERIAS, If you add repos, you have to add the keys.
[08:31] <OERIAS> wileee, that's the thing, I lost the repos
[08:31] <OERIAS> So I want to remove them'
[08:31] <wileee> !ppapurge
[08:32] <wileee> OerHeks, ^^^^ the bot
[08:32] <mate_> Ok, I enabled proposed from the bug report and now I am going to reboot.
[08:32] <wileee> OERIAS, sorry OerHeks
[08:33] <Myrtti> OERIAS: huh?
[08:34] <OERIAS> Myrtti, huh what?
[08:34] <Myrtti> oh right.
[08:34] <mate_> Ok still same problem.
[08:35] <OERIAS> wileee, I get gpg error when i update
[08:36] <OERIAS> *sudo apt-get
[08:36] <OERIAS> *sudo apt-get update
[08:36] <wileee> !ppapurge | OerHeks
[08:37] <wileee> OerHeks, are you seeing the ppapurge info, your nic is like another
[08:37] <wileee> OERIAS, ^^^^, getting late here
[08:37] <maxtimbo> mate_, still have the receipt for the gpu?
[08:38] <OERIAS> wileee, I need to what is causing the error I do not know the repo that is causing it
[08:38] <OERIAS> Which is making me repeat the same question over and over
[08:38] <mate_> maxtimbo, I don't know. I just found an answer I am going to try. http://askubuntu.com/questions/445954/unable-to-open-etc-ati-control-please-reinstall-the-driver
[08:38] <wileee> OERIAS, Ah, run the update in the terminal and pastebin it.
[08:38] <mate_> I get the same thing with this guy with aticonfig.
[08:39] <wileee> OERIAS, It's all a matter of communication, kit's not always easy. ;)
[08:39] <maxtimbo> mate_, good luck
[08:42] <mate_> Still doesn't work. I get smaller than the resolution I was getting in 15.04.
[08:42] <wileee> OERIAS, sudo apt-get update in the terminal than copy and paste all of it to at pastebin.com and gives us the url.
[08:43] <OERIAS> wileee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13258406/
[08:43] <wileee> thanks
[08:44] <wileee> OERIAS, try this sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[08:45] <wileee> than sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[08:46] <wileee> see if those clear and fix it
[08:47] <wileee> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32 one space after keys is correct use this one
[08:47] <OERIAS> Both are processed and unchanged
[08:47] <dicktwat> got problem with the updated somewith with launchpad.net ppa's, tryed to change it but still fails
[08:48] <OERIAS> wileee, I still get the same issues when i apt-get update
[08:49] <wileee> OERIAS, you proxied?
[08:50] <wileee> vpn...etc
[08:50] <OERIAS> Not I am not proxied
[08:53] <Dik1s> rctf on freenode
[08:53] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:54] <wileee> OERIAS, Not sure than, I have to assume you ran the commands correct, I see this working for some on the net with exact keys.
[08:54] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:54] <witheld> Crazy/serious issue. Ubuntu is trying to decrypt the wrong drive at boot. I start it up, and it promps me for the passphrase for /dev/sdb5
[08:54] <OERIAS> It is frustrating since I can't install the crummy updates
[08:54] <witheld> but there isn't a /dev/sdb5
[08:55] <witheld> My hard drive is /dev/sda
[08:55] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:55] <witheld> It just needs to decrypt sda5
[08:55] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:57] <codernotz> i have installed apache2 however htdocs is at usr/local and documentroot at var/www what does it mean?
[08:59] <shanemikel> has anybody used #ubuntu as an experiential reference for support job?
[08:59] <codernotz> uh
[08:59] <shanemikel> or another foss volunteer support role?
[08:59] <witheld> Fuck....I've got to leave on a two hour drive in four hours and no one has this issue and I can't find anything about it and I'm gonna have to reinstall again
[08:59] <codernotz> whats the issue witheld
[09:00] <witheld> It's decrypting the wrong drive. The root drive was sdb when I installed, and it's now sda. When I boot, it asks me for the passphrase for sdb5 which doesn't exist
[09:00] <witheld> So that just fails
[09:00] <Seveas> witheld: your /etc/crypttab is busted.
[09:00] <witheld> /etc/crypttab, alright
[09:01] <witheld> I can work with that
[09:01] <Seveas> mount the encrypted drive in a live system, mount its /boot as well inside it, fix that file and regenerate your initramfs
[09:01] <Seveas> can you work with that or do you need more detailed instructions? (no sarcasm intended)
[09:02] <witheld> Think so
[09:02] <Seveas> shanemikel: yes, I did that when I applied for a job at the company I currently work at.
[09:03] <codernotz> witheld did you try remounting sdb through recovery mode
[09:03] <codernotz> ?
[09:03] <Seveas> codernotz: that won't work if it doesn't exist :)
[09:04] <codernotz> oh so if it says sda .. try remounting that
[09:04] <codernotz> witheld
[09:07] <Spectre> So people are actually here, that's cool
[09:07] <cristian_c> odroid: done?
[09:18] <shanemikel> Seveas: if you don't mind what class/type of company is that, what role is it, and how did you present such references?
[09:21] <shanemikel> did you use irc handle references, github screennames, etc.. did you ask the folks for personal email/phone; what was the relationship you'd had with these people before (working on what?)
[09:24] <witheld> fixed it, thanks a ton Seveas
[09:30] <Seveas> witheld: you're welcome :)
[09:31] <Seveas> shanemikel: e-commerce, sysadmin. I grouped it under 'Volunteer Ubuntu support' together with loco activities and other Ubuntu work I did. No references used/requested.
[09:33] <ubuntu-mate> Okay booted live dvd and everything works.
[09:34] <ubuntu-mate> I will try to install catalyst on the live cd now?
[09:35] <ubuntu-mate> I guess I can't.
[10:02] <xpl0iter> Hi I want to assign mutiple ip addresses and server different webpages with each of it using apache. how do I do? What is it called?
[10:03] <NehezvoltRegelni> Hi! Is that normal, that on a 64bit ubuntu 15.10 apt-get always seems to try to donwload i386 packages?
[10:04] <NehezvoltRegelni> Just for a sample, apt-get install bb wants to install libaa1:i386 libcaca0:i386 libmikmod3:i386 libncursesw5:i386 libsdl1.2debian:i386 libslang2:i386
[10:04] <NehezvoltRegelni> but why?
[10:04] <cynixx3> NehezvoltRegelni, are you sure your on 64 bit?
[10:05] <NehezvoltRegelni> According to uname-a :Linux x220 4.2.0-18-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 6 18:25:50 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:05] <NehezvoltRegelni> cynixx3: i think i am:)
[10:05] <Humbedooh> are there 64bit versions of those packages?
[10:05] <NehezvoltRegelni> i was supposing that, but i'll check
[10:06] <cynixx3> also with those all being libraries maybe they are dependencies for a 32 bit program you installed.
[10:06] <NehezvoltRegelni> but i was trying to install other things, and i never saw :i386 this many times than since i'm using 15.10 (2 days)
[10:06] <Humbedooh> I've seen it on occasion where 32bit is the only available option
[10:08] <NehezvoltRegelni> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/libmikmod3
[10:09] <NehezvoltRegelni> if i understand it well, it has amd64
[10:09] <NehezvoltRegelni> now i tried with "dia" it wants to install no :i386
[10:09] <NehezvoltRegelni> so maybe coincidence
[10:09] <cynixx3> any idea what program you installed that is using that library as a dependency?
[10:10] <NehezvoltRegelni> hmmmm, maybe the problem is even worse
[10:10] <F4GG07> what is the sexiest gui?
[10:11] <NehezvoltRegelni> cynixx3, Humbedooh it seems to be that the fault was the repository
[10:11] <NehezvoltRegelni> i was using one of the polish ones (no clue why the installer choosed that, i'm at hungary)
[10:11] <NehezvoltRegelni> now i changed to a german one, and it wasn't wanted to install :i386
[10:13] <NehezvoltRegelni> so now i might have a lot of :i386s that could be amd64
[10:13] <NehezvoltRegelni> do you have any idea how to replace them?
[10:13] <NehezvoltRegelni> sudo dpkg -l | grep :i386 | wc -l ----> 175 :(
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[01:08] <mofaph> 大家好，我新安装了ubuntu-14.04.3，找不到键盘映射的界面了。比如，"CapsLock"映射到"Ctrl"。
[01:34] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 非洲野猪究竟张什么样 : 课上老师正在描述非洲野猪的长相,发现有学生正在打瞌睡,极为光火骂道:"看着我呀,不看我,你们怎么知道非洲野猪长什么样!"
[02:35] <^k^> 新 游戏和游戏模拟器 • Enemy Territory 最新安装方法（超简单） http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473856 etlegacy下载就能安装 http://www.etlegacy.com 02c20b2442a7d933b94ab396ab4bd11371f001e1.jpg zz: yjmwxwx — 2015-11-14 10:34
[03:52] <MangHuo> mofaph: 用 xmodmap 呗
[04:05] <MangHuo> onlylove: 我在 firefox 里面之前不小心把一个 ca 删掉了，有办法恢复么
[04:06] <mofaph> MangHuo: 是不是新版的删除了？
[04:07] <MangHuo> mofaph: 这个不太清楚呢，没有用过图形界面配置键盘映射
[04:08] <mofaph> 有没有知道怎么在图形界面下修改键盘映射？
[04:08] <CyrusYzGTt> reinstall
[04:09] <MangHuo> CyrusYzGTt: 正在 reinstall
[04:09] <MangHuo> CyrusYzGTt: update 看起来解决不了问题
[04:09] <CyrusYzGTt> MangHuo§ 你是在用户目录删除？
[04:10] <MangHuo> CyrusYzGTt: 不是，是在浏览器的设置里面删除的
[04:10] <CyrusYzGTt> MangHuo§ ~/.firefox ?
[04:11] <MangHuo> CyrusYzGTt: 应该在 .mozilla 里面
[04:11] <CyrusYzGTt> MangHuo§ 如果是这样，先备份好， 然后 rm -rf ~/.firefox
[04:11] <CyrusYzGTt> MangHuo§ 如果是这样，先同步备份好， 然后 rm -rf ~/.firefox
[04:11] <MangHuo> CyrusYzGTt: 恩，已经同步了
[04:16] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 请推荐一个ubuntu下面可以使用的pci-e 电视卡 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473859 请推荐一个ubuntu下面可以使用的pci-e 电视卡，可以看电视，收电台，录制电视。 zz: pengsir — 2015-11-14 12:15
[04:21] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 如何用fsck检查当前的正在使用的分区的文件系统？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473860 fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 232.9 GiB, 250059350016 bytes, 488397168 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes D
[04:21] <^k^> ─> isklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x197fb8ed Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sda1 * 2048 206847 204 …
[06:11] <mengyi> hi
[06:11] <ubrl> mengyi:点点点. 14:08
[06:11] <C0nn0l2> ahoy
[06:11] <mengyi> 有人在吗？
[06:11] <ubrl> mengyi:点点点. 14:09
[06:12] <C0nn0l2> i am
[06:12] <C0nn0l2> english?
[06:12] <mengyi> 有谁在freebsd10上用过n2n
[06:12] <C0nn0l2> sorry havent used that before
[06:13] <mengyi> can you speak chinese here?
[06:13] <C0nn0l2> yes, i just dont have my international keyboard setup at the moment
[06:14] <mengyi> 好吧
[06:42] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 一记耳光 : 摩洛科在饭店里吃了一顿美味的午饭,需付一卢布,可他连一个戈比也没有,于是他问店老板:请告诉我,在此地,如果有人打了别人的一记耳光,官司打到法院,他会被罚多少钱? 我想,五个卢布吧！ 好吧,摩洛科说,请您打我一记耳光,再给我剩下的四卢布找头吧！
[06:48] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • ubuntu java running environment http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473861 各位大侠， 在ubuntu下安装java running environment。 li@li-Lenovo:~$ tar -xzvf jre-8u65-linux-x64.tar.gz li@li-Lenovo:~$ cd java li@li-Lenovo:~/java$ ls jre1.8.0_65 接下去，如何安装？ 先谢谢了！ zz: yueli711 — 2015-11-14 14:48
[06:53] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • ubuntu java running environment http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473863 各位大侠， 在ubuntu下安装java running environment。 li@li-Lenovo:~$ tar -xzvf jre-8u65-linux-x64.tar.gz li@li-Lenovo:~$ cd java li@li-Lenovo:~/java$ ls jre1.8.0_65 接下去，如何安装？ 先谢谢了！ zz: yueli711 — 2015-11-14 14:52
[08:46] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 开机黑屏只有鼠标，或报错，如下 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473864 应该是启动问题吧，但我换成UEFI也没解决，不知道是不是硬件的原因，求解，谢谢！ 感觉是从15.04换到15.10才频繁出现的，具体日期记不清了。 经常开机黑屏，只有鼠标，这时候只能重启
[08:46] <^k^> ─> ，其他无效； 或者有时报错，我拍下来录入如下： Code: #这句有时出现 fsck from util-linux …
[08:47] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 开机黑屏只有鼠标，或报错，如下 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473865 应该是启动问题吧，但我换成UEFI也没解决，不知道是不是硬件的原因，求解，谢谢！ 感觉是从15.04换到15.10才频繁出现的，具体日期记不清了。 经常开机黑屏，只有鼠标，这时候只能重启
[08:47] <^k^> ─> ，其他无效； 或者有时报错，我拍下来录入如下： Code: #这句有时出现 fsck from util-linux …
[09:04] <uuair> hi all
[09:04] <ubrl> uuair:点点点. 17:01
[09:04] <uuair> 我碰到一个问题
[09:04] <uuair> ubuntu15设置iptables
[09:04] <uuair> 我关闭了ufw，因为一开启就关闭所有连接了，我还不知道怎么搞
[09:05] <uuair> 所以先设置iptables
[09:05] <uuair> 按照教程，我把iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.up.rules这个规则写到了/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables中
[09:05] <uuair> 但是这样导致网卡无法启动
[09:06] <uuair> Failed to start Wait for all "auto"...be up for network-online.target.See 'systemctl status ifup-wait-all-auto.service' for details.
[09:06] <uuair> 启动的时候显示整个错误
[09:07] <uuair> 使用 ip addr flush dev eth0 && ifdown -a && ifup -a命令
[09:07] <uuair> failed to exec /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables: No such file or directory
[09:08] <uuair> /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables exited with return code 1
[09:08] <uuair> 直到我删除了/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables，网才正常
[09:08] <uuair> 我想问一下，这个设置的问题在那里？还有，iptables如果想自动加载rules，应该如何操作？
[11:05] <Guest28218> hj
[11:05] <Guest28218> 这为什么不支持昵称
[11:06] <Guest28218> what
[11:07] <Guest28218> qeweqe
[11:07] <Guest28218> 真的怎么改昵称
[11:14] <ketop> wah
[11:15] <ketop> wahe
[11:15] <ketop> slkfldkf
[11:15] <ketop> whois cnsy
[11:18] <patricky> hello everybody
[11:19] <patricky> i finally konw how to get into IRC from the terminal,not from xchat
[11:20] <patricky> i can't get in from forum by click chat
[11:22] <patricky> exit
[11:22] <patricky> kill al
[11:22] <patricky> how to exit
[11:32] <longlong> win7 dns服务器地址为什么设置了不存在的ip，都能被污染
[11:32] <longlong> wtf
[11:34] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 启动模块的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473866 请看 ：https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi 其中一句话， As the iwlwifi module is automatically loaded for supported devices, reinsert this module to access installed firmware: # modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi 我有点不理解： modprobe
[11:34] <^k^> ─> -r iwlwifi 删除了哈 ， modprobe iwlwifi 再启动它？？ zz: pengsir — 2015-11-14 19:34
[12:17] <yunfan> fuck you all
[12:18] <CyrusYzGTt> yunfan§ 你gaoji?
[12:35] <yunfan> CyrusYzGTt: 搞搞你无压力
[12:35] <CyrusYzGTt> yunfan§ 你一边去，
[12:43] <yunfan> CyrusYzGTt: 从边上搞你有点难度
[12:51] <CyrusYzGTt> yunfan§ 你去DNA改造成女人再说
[12:57] <MangHuo> beap123
[12:57] <MangHuo> bbbbb
[12:58] <MangHuo> test
[12:58] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 20:55
[12:58] <MangHuo> beap
[13:27] <longlong> 路由器已开启全局翻，win也能看u2b了
[13:45] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 我碰到了iptables的设置问题，请指教 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473868 ubuntu15 设置iptables， 我关闭了ufw，因为一开启就关闭所有连接了，我还不知道怎么搞,所以先设置iptables. 按照教程，我把iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.up.rules这个规则写到了/etc/network/if
[13:45] <^k^> ─> -pre-up.d/iptables中,但是这样导致网卡无法启动 Failed to start Wait for all "auto"...be up for network-on …
[14:15] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 关于安装ubtu创建ext4时候卡在/boot解决方法 本人亲测 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473869 大家好 男人嘛都喜欢折腾 遇到问题就找资料 找思路 解决了 顺便提醒大家 比如你用硬盘安装的 g4dos的 ubtu14 15以上的 看看vm文件带不带efi，带的在meun.list 注意加上，
[14:15] <^k^> ─> 否则无法找到iso 本人机子垃圾g530 h61老爷机那种了，自己也是爱折腾，mac os w7 8 10 ubtu咯 …
[14:29] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 升级内核后 卡死在ubuntu界面 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473872 15.10 内核从4.2.0.16没事 升级到4.2.0.18就卡死啦 zz: 潘恩 — 2015-11-14 22:28
[14:37] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[16:18] <xtpeeps> Test
[16:18] <ubrl> xtpeeps:点点点. 00:15
[16:18] <xtpeeps> Hi
[16:18] <ubrl> xtpeeps:点点点. 00:15
[17:16] <czc> 我的火狐有的网页下文件不会按正确方式打开而是会识别成“二进制流？”有的网站就不会这是为什么？是我MIME文件的问题吗？还是网页兼容性的问题？
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[17:10] <Guest58677> wats +5519994589853 hacking
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[06:02] <darkxst> Laney, can you run the packageset scripts to pick up new gdm3 source, when you have a chance
[08:06] <LocutusOfBorg1> hi folks, can anybody please retry autopkgtest for pbuilder/xenial/armhf/ppc64el? they are preventing it from migration I think
[08:47] <melodie> hi
[08:48] <melodie> infinity I wanted to get in touch with you, because I just realized when I used a Live Trusty in a laptop having 3 GB ram that I got zram block devices : whereas with the initramfs hook it should not be started, unless there is 512MB ram available max. Do you want me to file a bug report?
[08:50] <melodie> I am not at home right now, but I have an internet connection, so if you read me later, we can get in touch again in the coming evenings or days
[08:52] <darkxst> melodie, lubuntu enable zram though
[08:55] <melodie> hi darkxst
[08:56] <melodie> I have been a tester for zram-config, not so long ago when the script has been ported to systemd, so this is related
[08:56] <melodie> the changes done have not been complete, there is a part of how the program is supposed to work, that is missing.
[08:57] <melodie> this is why I want to ask infinity if he would want me to file a bug, or if he would rather work on the issue directly in the coming days.
[08:57] <melodie> and if lubuntu enables zram since a pair of editions, this is because I made gilir aware of me doing so in my non official remixes. ;)
[09:05] <darkxst> melodie, sounds like you should just file a bug ;)
[09:08] <melodie> darkxst possibly
[09:09] <darkxst> melodie, not possibly, just do it, that is why launchpad is there ;)
[09:10] <melodie> I'm not at home right now
[09:10] <melodie> I just noticed the issue yesterday when I did a new install and I don't want to forget to take care of it
[09:14] <darkxst> melodie, you are on the internet, you can still file a bug
[09:30] <melodie> if I reproduce it with a live and bring tech info
[09:31] <melodie> I am in a public forum right now and discussion irl with people too
[09:43] <melodie> bbl :)
[11:54] <elbrus> pitti: did you change anything to the armhf autopkgtest lxc? dbconfig-common is now passing
[11:57] <elbrus> pitti: to be honest, I currently believe that this situation SHOULD have been handled by dbconfig-common and postgresql correctly. Apparently the way to do this is to copy the template0 in postgresql and that is exaclty what dbconfig-common is (or should be) doing
[15:17] <sebastic_> !regression-alert
[15:18] <sebastic_> The Debian Security Team just released: [DSA 3208-2] freexl regression update, this regression affects trusty & vivid (LP: #1437087)
[15:38] <mdeslaur> sebastic: please file a new bug, so that's it's not "fix released", and subscribe ubuntu-security-sponsors to it
[15:53] <sebastic> mdeslaur: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freexl/+bug/1516257
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[05:14] <Manu-sh> hi
[05:16] <Manu-sh> i need little help
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.268665
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-ops
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[08:33] <OERIAS> Hey XenuLives made a comment on the chat
When does Ubuntu Masturbating Monkey get released?
[17:12] <jesuslovesyouthi> who can I speak to about a mod who treats a situation unfairly on this server? is there anyone to appeal to?
[21:35] <TJ-> can someone have a word with FatSpitfire in #ubuntu? profanity, insulting behaviour
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.270040
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"OERIAS",
"TJ-",
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-arm
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[12:22] <JRSS> hello! I recently installed 12.04 on my chromebook and I could use some help.
[12:22] <JRSS> I am having a couple of issues, it seems as if it didn't install fully.
[12:23] <k1l_> there is something like chrubuntu for the chromebooks.
[12:25] <JRSS> can try it... seems pretty empty.
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"JRSS",
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[11:29] <jrgifford> Unit193: yeah, just did.
[11:29] <jrgifford> Uh-oh.
[11:29] <jrgifford> Uhhhhh...
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ubuntu-chat
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"authors": [
"jrgifford"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/14/%23ubuntu-us-oh.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-oh"
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-no
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[09:50] <AndyOslo> Lurer på hvordan jeg skal få Ubuntu server til å huske de fordømte nameserver adressene etter at jeg har satt fast IP på den
[13:04] <RoyK> AndyOslo: legg til i /etc/network/interfaces - etter adresse og sånt, legg til "dns-nameservers 8.8.4.4 8.8.8.8" eller hva du nå vil bruke
[13:13] <AndyOslo> Fant ut av det tilslutt, på Debian har jeg pleid å legge det til i /etc/resolv.conf, men i ubuntu overskrives denne av en eller annen grunn ved reboot
[13:14] <AndyOslo> Så det blei følgende setning i /etc/network/interfaces
[13:14] <AndyOslo> dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
[13:15] <RoyK> normalt tar vel networkmanager over resolv.conf
[13:15] <RoyK> det står i fila
[13:15] <AndyOslo> Mulig
[13:15] <RoyK> noe sånt som "# Do not edit this file. It will be overwritten!"
[13:16] <AndyOslo> Ja
[13:16] <AndyOslo> Bare meg som trodde at siden det funka i Debian, så skulle det funke i Ubuntu også
[13:17] <RoyK> Du skal ikkje tru, du skal vite!
[13:17] <RoyK> ;)
[13:31] <AndyOslo> Hehe
[13:32] <AndyOslo> Jeg fikk det i alle fall til å virke
[13:33] <AndyOslo> Printserveren har også fått fast IP nå
[13:33] <AndyOslo> En sånn liten USB til Ethernett sak
[14:47] <Mathias> RoyK: det er nm som tar over resolv
[15:00] <RoyK> Mathias: var det ikke det jeg sa?
[15:01] <Mathias> du sa det som om du ikke var helt sikker
[15:02] * RoyK pleier ofte å tillegge litt usikkerhet, siden man veldig skjelden kan være sikker på noe som helst ;)
[15:03] <RoyK> på servere med fast IP, pleier jeg å kaste ut networkmanager
[15:04] <AndyOslo> RoyK: Har ikke fjerna no nettverksshait på serverne, bare satt fast IP
[15:05] <AndyOslo> Hva burde jeg i så fall fjerne
[15:05] <AndyOslo> ?
[15:14] <RoyK> AndyOslo: har du noe GUI på denne?
[15:14] <RoyK> AndyOslo: dpkg -l | grep -i networkman
[15:16] <AndyOslo> RoyK: Er ikke GUI på server for feiginger??? :P
[15:17] <Mathias> jo
[15:18] <Mathias> eller, kommer litt an på hva du skal med serveren
[15:18] <AndyOslo> Akuratt som webmin og sånt
[15:18] <AndyOslo> Når serverne er reine fil \ web servere, så trenger man ikke GUI
[15:18] <Mathias> om du vil ha virtualisering er det kanskje greit med en manager rett på serveren om du ikke vil gå via nettverk
[15:22] <AndyOslo> Mener å huske at jeg kjørte noen virtuelle maskiner på den uten å ha gui, men jeg husker ikke hvordan jeg gjorde det
[15:25] <AndyOslo> Men i alle fall, frem til i dag er det bare hovedserveren og pien som har hatt fast IP, men nå har printerboksen, testserveren og macen også fått det
[15:26] <RoyK> AndyOslo: jo
[15:27] <RoyK> AndyOslo: webmin er for neandertalere (selv om det egentlig er dårlig gjort å si, de var jo smarte mennesker, de også, på sin måte, bare ikke så aggressive som homo sapiens)
[15:28] <Mathias> AndyOslo: går fint an uten gui på virtualisering også
[15:34] <AndyOslo> RoyK: Er faktisk usikker på om jeg har webmin på noen servere lenger, har ikke brukt det på lenge....
[15:52] <RoyK> - If your religion is worth killing for, please start with yourself
[16:21] <AndyOslo> RoyK: Det værste er at jeg tror faktisk det hadde hjulpet hvis alle relgiøse fanatikere hadde fulgt det
[16:30] <RoyK> (eller andre fanatikere)
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"AndyOslo",
"Mathias",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-no"
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2015-11-14-#launchpad
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[04:30] <eosrei> Hi! This is hopefully a simple procedure Q. I found a much older bug report on bugs.launchpad.net than the "popular" bug report. Older report from 2012 has 16 bug heat. Newer report (with three dupes) has 216. I realize I should mark the newer as a dupe, but will that negatively effect the bugheat? Should I not even question what to do? Haha
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"eosrei"
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"channel": "#launchpad"
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2015-11-14-#kubuntu
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[00:00] <odie__> is there a good util for switching windows from the command line or script in kde4?
[00:02] <Hudsonkem> bprompt akonadi is using it? whats akonadi do?
[00:03] <bprompt> Hudsonkem: kaddressbook, kwallet, kontac, korganizer, pretty much the PIM apps information database service
[00:04] <Hudsonkem> hm.. got it, thx
[00:08] <Hudsonkem> why when google chrome call dolphin open/salve dialog its appear without color scheme?
[00:08] <bprompt> well
[00:09] <bprompt> Hudsonkem: the app uses some "file dialog" subroutine, is not really Dolphin's or have to be KDE's or QT's either, in this case, google chrome, as well as otrher browsers like firefox, use GTK dialog
[00:10] <bprompt> so, is up to the app, whatever file dialog it will use, no up to the window manager or the desktop manager
[00:12] <Hudsonkem> hm.. got it
[00:12] <Hudsonkem> so, no fix :V
[00:12] <odie__> is there a scriptable program for switching windows in kde4?
[00:12] <odie__> like something I can put as part of a shell script or program
[00:13] <bprompt> odie__: no need for that, alt-tab =)
[00:13] <odie__> I need it as part of the state for a script
[00:14] <odie__> i need to switch to a window, focus on it, and pipe a command to it
[00:15] <bprompt> Hudsonkem: what you can do is, change the GTK theme to something you'd like instead, or some gtk theme that resembles whatever theme you're using in kwin :), and you can do that in System Settings > appearance > gtk appearance
[00:16] <mparillo> bprompt: It seems to me that if I install rekonq first, google-chrome uses kdialog. If I do not install rekonq at all, google-chrome uses something else.
[00:17] <bprompt> hmmm
[00:18] <bprompt> mparillo: I'm thinking it uses gtk theme all along, BUT, you can change what gtk theme to use in a kwin session, through System Settings > Appearance
[00:19] <bprompt> mparillo: or may just ba a system kde/qt variable that's being set, that chrome uses, bearing in mind that other app use as well, like Adobe reader or firefox
[00:21] <mparillo> Alas firefox has its own strange file dialog.
[00:23] <odie__> does plasma have a console api?
[00:24] <bprompt> odie__: think so, from what I recall, you can use Krunner to run kde dialogs, not sure if that comprises plasma
[00:24] <bprompt> !krunner
[00:25] <bprompt> woops
[00:25] <bprompt> !find krunner
[00:26] <bprompt> odie__: but if you install KDevelop suite, I think it has a few kde api samplers
[00:26] <Unit193> !find krunner
[00:26] <odie__> is there a wiki for the kwin/plasma shell scripting apis
[00:26] <mparillo> This might be how the kdialog is invoked under the covers? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=190556
[00:26] <odie__> i see functionality scattered about is there a wiki for objects
[00:27] <mparillo> And I experience this bug related to kdialog on Chrome and Chromium: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323650
[05:56] <shurtagul> So why when I executed "sudo apt-get purge wine*" does the shell go ahead and purge all my applications?
[07:12] <dw__> howdy from texas #kubuntu
[10:46] <lolmaus> In Google Chrome (latest stable), I'm suffering from unresponsive and jerky scrolling, redraw problems: http://i.stack.imgur.com/qXgY2.png and YouTube lagging in fullscreen. I'm on Kubuntu 15.10 installed from scratch on a pretty performant laptop: a Thinkpad T430 with a top CPU, 16GB RAM (no swap), SSD, Intel 4000 GPU.
[10:46] <lolmaus> Help! I tried disabling all Chrome addons but it didn't help.
[11:30] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:46] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[12:46] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader
[12:47] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> fine thanks lordievader, and how are you?
[12:48] <lordievader> Doing good here. Bit of a lazy day today...
[12:49] <BluesKaj> yeah, same here ,think I can relax, finally
[12:50] <lordievader> Why couldn't you before?
[12:50] <lordievader> Too much stuff to take care of?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> yeah, the yardwork mostly
[12:52] <lordievader> Ah, well earned relaxing thus ;)
[12:54] <BluesKaj> this 16.04 is slow to boot one day then fast the next, lotta changes every 2-3 days..more so then 15.10 it seems
[12:55] <BluesKaj> buit overall it's stability is quite good so far
[12:56] <lordievader> Haven't used Xenial much since the 15.10 release.
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hey sick_rimmit
[13:12] <I_need_Help> hi guy i want to ask if someone coud help me with a problem regarding synaptic
[13:13] <BluesKaj> I_need_Help, which kubuntu release are you using?
[13:13] <I_need_Help> 15.10
[13:13] <BluesKaj> still on synaptic. why not muon ?
[13:13] <I_need_Help> i get this error whne staring synaptic :
[13:14] <I_need_Help> No protocol specified ** (synaptic:17423): WARNING **: Could not open X display No protocol specified Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Unable to
[13:14] <lordievader> I_need_Help: From where are you trying to launch synaptic?
[13:14] <lordievader> And Mir? Is synaptic ported to that?
[13:15] <I_need_Help> normal louncher
[13:15] <BluesKaj> no it's still available on kubuntu, think he's using ubuntu
[13:15] <I_need_Help> no im usin kubuntu 15.10
[13:16] <I_need_Help> *using
[13:16] <lordievader> I_need_Help: Open a konsole and run 'DISPLAY=:0 synaptic', does that launch it correctly?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> I_need_Help, do yo also have unity installed
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:16] <I_need_Help> wihout sudo yes
[13:17] <I_need_Help> with sudo
[13:17] <I_need_Help> ** (synaptic:17499): WARNING **: Could not open X display No protocol specified Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Unable to init server: Verbindung ist gescheitert: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt (synaptic:17499): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[13:18] <lordievader> That makes sense.
[13:19] <lordievader> The root doesn't have access to your display.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> plus why is it looking for mir ?
[13:20] <I_need_Help> but sometimes it works
[13:20] <I_need_Help> most times after a reboot
[13:21] <BluesKaj> this won't solve your synaptic problem, but why not install muon ? it works well
[13:21] <lordievader> I_need_Help: Does synaptic elavate its right when you want to install something? (After you have started it without sudo?)
[13:22] <I_need_Help> no
[13:23] <lordievader> Hmm...
[13:25] <I_need_Help> i dont know if its realtet but sometimes bleachbit also dont with root
[13:25] <I_need_Help> and kwin_x11 crashes a lot
[13:26] <BluesKaj> have you been updating and upgrading your packages to bring them up to date ?
[13:27] <I_need_Help> evertying shoud be up to date
[13:30] <BluesKaj> frankly, I dunno how well synaptic isa supported anymore , it's quite an old app and muon has mostly replaced it over the last few yrs
[13:30] <I_need_Help> ok thanks
[13:31] <lordievader> If it wants Mir... something tells me it might only work (well) under Unity.
[13:31] <I_need_Help> dosent kubuntu use wayland?
[13:32] <lordievader> No. Not yet anyways.
[13:32] <lordievader> kwin_x11 ;)
[13:33] <I_need_Help> ok stil thank i gues im using moun from now on
[14:03] <tomb> how can I open the settings in Konsole please?
[14:04] <lordievader> tomb: As in running 'systemsettings'?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> tomb, systemsettings5
[14:21] <Hudsonkem> I uninstalled apport and somethimes when plasma or krunner crashes, it appear yet, why? its getting me mad U.u
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hudsonkem, you may need to purge it
[14:24] <Hudsonkem> hm..
[14:24] * BluesKaj shrugs
[14:25] <Hudsonkem> interesting, apport was there -_-
[14:25] <tomb> lordievader: no sorry, the settings for Konsole. Directions say "Settings -> Profile Management -> New Profile", but I can't find that menu.
[14:26] <lordievader> tomb: Settings -> Manage Profiles you mean?
[14:26] <tomb> I guess...
[14:27] <lordievader> Does that answer your question then?
[14:28] <tomb> No, I can't find "Settings"
[14:28] <lordievader> It is the second to last in the menubar. Did you disable the menubar?
[14:29] <tomb> perhaps the menubar never was enabled? How do I do that please?
[14:29] <lordievader> tomb: ctrl + shift + m
[14:30] <tomb> there we go: cheers lordie
[14:31] <Hudsonkem> thumbnail on dolphin 15.08.2 ideas?
[14:31] <Hudsonkem> ops
[14:31] <Hudsonkem> blender thumbnails on dolphin 15.08.2 ideas?*
[14:50] <sick_rimmit> BluesKaj: Hi, sorry was asleep at the wheel back there
[14:51] <BluesKaj> sick_rimmit, looks like you have some connect probs
[16:15] <LicHacker> how do I log a bug, ubuntu-bug gets confused an is looking for iceweasle when I am using firefox?
[16:16] <LicHacker> KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/iceweasel/iceweasel'
[16:18] <LicHacker> I have a fresh install of kubuntu 15.10
[18:06] <_jam> is kwallet broken for anyone else? I'm in 15.10. It doesn't open a wallet, and all the widgets seem broken. I've tried creating a new wallet, importing, exporting and nothing happens
[18:12] <TJ-> _jam: not sure; I don't see anything in the default wallet here but not sure if something is missing or if it is empty
[19:19] <est31> okay, now where has the "actions" right click menu vanished
[19:19] <est31> I can't even unzip zip files anymore
[19:19] <est31> without using the console
[19:19] <est31> or opening ark and many many more clicks and useless submenus
[19:20] <est31> There is an "activities" right click menu but it contains bullshit
[19:23] <est31> I dont want to "link with the current activity"
[19:23] <est31> whatever that is
[19:23] <est31> I want a shorthand for extracting zip files
[19:23] <est31> and I want a shorthand for kgpg -s
[19:46] <suncokret> hello, what is better to install, kubuntu 14.04 or 15.10?
[19:46] <est31> I reallly regret to have moved to 15.10 now
[19:47] <est31> there is lots of stuff happening in kubuntu land right now
[19:47] <lordievader> suncokret: That depends, do you want the newest of the newest. Or do you want (rock)stable?
[19:47] <est31> best option is to install an LTS and wait for the dust to settle
[19:47] <est31> 15.10 isnt newest of newest
[19:48] <lordievader> In terms of releases it is.
[19:48] <est31> in terms of ubuntu releases, yes
[19:48] <est31> not in terms of software releases
[19:48] <est31> then rolling release is better
[19:48] <suncokret> i use now lubuntu 14.04 and it is great, i wish to try kubuntu and i think to try 14.04 too because it have long support, but i ask what you people say
[19:49] <suncokret> do you use kubuntu 14.04?
[19:50] <lordievader> I only have Kubuntu 16.04 installed on a test box.
[19:50] <VeryBewitching> 15.10 here.
[19:53] <lordievader> suncokret: You could ofcoure try 15.10 as a vm or in the live-environment.
[19:54] <suncokret> how you use 16.04, is that some alpha version or what?
[19:54] <VeryBewitching> suncokret: Current build of the next release.
[19:54] <lordievader> suncokret: Yes, development release.
[19:54] <VeryBewitching> There's probably snapshots available for such things.
[19:55] <lordievader> suncokret: I am part of the Kubuntu Teststers Team ;)
[19:55] <suncokret> so you are help for developing
[19:55] <suncokret> and how much people are in team?
[19:57] <lordievader> Not a whole lot. We could allways use more ;) https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters
[19:58] <suncokret> i don't have time for that but i hope i will find enough time to install 14.04 :)
[20:00] <suncokret> so almost 400 members...
[20:01] <lordievader> Oh, that ain't a representive measurement...
[20:02] <lordievader> There are 13 people in the testers ping.
[20:31] <mparillo> lordievader: Thans for the link. I am on the testers ping, but had neglected to add my name to the launchpad group.
[20:31] <lordievader> mparillo: Sure, no problem ;)
[20:31] <mparillo> suncokret: If you want a solid, stable desktop, 14.04 is the best choice.
[20:32] <mparillo> suncokret: If you want to roll with the latest, the daily build of 16.04 has not let me down.
[20:35] <suncokret> thanks for answers
[20:54] <VeryBewitching> Does anyone know of a way to stop the lengthy checksum check when copying data to a USB stick?
[20:55] <VeryBewitching> Once the file is on the device, and the notification shows 100% copy status, there's a huge delay before it completes.
[21:15] <fsdf> hi
[22:57] <jokn> is there a good plasma/kde4 command line script for window switching
[22:58] <soee_> jokn: try asking on #plasma
[23:04] <jokn> is the plasma desktop scripting api available in full somewhere
[23:07] <jokn> is there a DE that works well with ubuntu that is better for scripting than KDE?
[23:27] <Mejestoad> Can someone help me out with the Catalyst driver
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.293759
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"Hudsonkem",
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"LicHacker",
"Mejestoad",
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"VeryBewitching",
"_jam",
"bprompt",
"dw__",
"est31",
"fsdf",
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"suncokret",
"tomb"
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"channel": "#kubuntu"
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2015-11-14-#snappy
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[00:39] <bago> does anyone know a good guide for porting a new arm board?
[15:19] <SamSpaces> Hi all, I've noticed a process called Rpigdnos. It returns after killing and deletion from /bin. Any ideas what that is?
[15:28] <tbr> isn't that the NCTV backdoor?
[15:33] <SamSpaces> I'm not a big on technical things, what's NCTV?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.296582
| 2015-11-14T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"SamSpaces",
"bago",
"tbr"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/14/%23snappy.txt",
"channel": "#snappy"
}
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-za
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[07:11] <Cryterion> Mornings
[07:43] <Kilos> ohi who_da_fly
[07:43] <Kilos> morning everyone
[08:20] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[08:20] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[08:53] <Kilos> Maaz_ seen inetpro
[08:53] <Maaz_> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 13 hours, 27 minutes and 52 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-11-13 11:25:37 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2015-11-13 21:47:18 PST
[09:04] <QA> oom Kilos, he's here
[09:04] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:04] <Kilos> hi inetpro did you get some rain
[09:05] <Kilos> we havent had 1 mm yet
[09:05] <inetpro> uh.... a few drops
[09:05] <Kilos> eish
[09:11] <theblazehen> Still getting some here :)
[10:03] <GnikLlort> Looks like rain here
[12:16] <EvilDMP> Hello South African Ubuntans. I hope you're enjoying your summer more than I am enjoying our winter.
[12:16] <EvilDMP> In January: http://na.pycon.org
[12:17] <EvilDMP> would love to meet some ZA open-source people there
[16:19] <Kilos> hi EvilDMP
[16:32] <theblazehen> I'm making as many files as I can..
[16:36] <theblazehen> ls | wc -l
[16:36] <theblazehen> 9458903
[16:44] <inetpro> eish!
[16:44] <inetpro> how can I make Ubuntu Trusty stop doing lookups of AAAA records when doing DNS queries?
[16:45] <theblazehen> inetpro: Do you have an IPv6 address? WHy do you need to stop the lookup?
[16:46] * inetpro noticed this strange behaviour starting with Ubuntu 12.04
[16:46] <inetpro> I always disable IPv6 because we our network does not support it on the WAN
[16:47] <inetpro> if I do a name lookup with 'host google.com' while watching 'tcpdump -ne dst port 53' I see three lookups:
[16:47] <inetpro> A? google.com., AAAA? google.com. and MX? google.com.
[16:48] <inetpro> not a major train smash but just wondering why and how I could disable it
[16:49] <inetpro> s/we our/our/
[16:50] <inetpro> related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1092691
[16:52] <theblazehen> It shouldn't be a problem unless your computer tries to access it via IPv6 however? Hvae you tested, perhaps eg. firefox will only lookup only the A record? Might be 'host' itself doing the multiple queries?
[16:54] <inetpro> haven't noticed any performance issues because of it... just picked it up when monitoring DNS queries on one of our web servers
[16:55] <inetpro> oh and that still being on Ubuntu 12.04
[16:55] <theblazehen> If it's just the lookup, then it shouldn't have any impact. Or am I missing something?
[16:56] <theblazehen> Well, 12.04 is LTS
[16:56] <inetpro> and after a bit of research still see the same behaviour on 14.04
[16:56] <inetpro> well yes it is just a lookup but is it really necessary?
[16:57] <theblazehen> inetpro: Shouldn't be, just thinking that there's probably other areas that are also inefficient
[16:57] <inetpro> true
[16:58] <theblazehen> Same behaviour on Arch
[17:00] <inetpro> another debate around the same issue: http://serverfault.com/questions/632665/how-to-disable-aaaa-lookups
[17:03] <inetpro> at least we do not have 70 million name resolutions like others have
[17:04] <theblazehen> Yeah, have you considered using dnsmasq or something for DNS caching?
[17:04] <Audioburn> hello
[17:04] <theblazehen> Hi Audioburn
[17:04] <Audioburn> what is it like living in SA
[17:05] <Audioburn> za*
[17:05] <theblazehen> It has good parts, and it's bad parts. Overall, it's alright
[17:35] <magespawn> good evening
[17:40] <theblazehen> hi magespawn
[17:55] <EvilDMP> Hello Kilos
[18:12] <magespawn> i found this a little while ago http://www.allitebooks.com/
[18:12] <magespawn> seems okay so far
[18:24] <magespawn> there does seem to be some question about that site
[18:30] <theblazehen> magespawn: Seems nice
[18:48] <magespawn> not too sure about the legality though
[19:16] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:17] <Kilos> see you tomorrow
[19:40] <superfly> Bye! See you all in a weeks time.
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-classroom
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[21:04] <ThePunisher_> when is next session in progress
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-14-#kubuntu-devel
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[11:30] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:36] <sick_rimmit> lordievader: Hi how are you ?
[11:36] <lordievader> Hey sick_rimmit, I'm doing allright. Slept in until late. How are you?
[11:37] <sick_rimmit> Good, just kicking back today.. It's the weekend..
[11:38] <lordievader> Yeah ;)
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:46] <lordievader> sick_rimmit: Having issues with your network connection?
[14:40] <soee> hiho
[14:42] <sgclark> morning
[14:44] <soee> it's getting dark in here :D
[14:49] <sick_rimmit> Hola
[14:49] <BluesKaj> hey sick_rimmit, connection probs ?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> hey sick_rimmit, connection probs ?
[14:51] <sick_rimmit> Well. not that I know of.. I've got a tail on syslog because I seem to keep dropping out aevery 5 minutes
[14:54] <BluesKaj> more like every min here on freenode
[14:55] <ahoneybun> more like every few secs
[14:55] <sick_rimmit> Ah right then I think I have an issue with wpa_supplicant
[14:55] <sick_rimmit> I am getting this in the logs
[14:55] <sick_rimmit> wpa_supplicant[838]: wlp2s0: WPA: Group rekeying completed with a4:b
[14:56] <sick_rimmit> I'm going to drop out of Kubuntu and return in a different OS, see if it stops
[15:01] <lordievader> Hmm, group keys shouldn't be used for data towards the AP.
[15:08] <sick_rimmit> OK... I'm Back using Ubuntu Studio.
[15:08] <sick_rimmit> I think there is an issue in Kubuntu with wpa-supplicant, lets see if the connection is stable now
[15:09] <sick_rimmit> Same machine and everything, just booted to different OS
[15:30] <BluesKaj> which OS ?
[15:38] <ahoneybun> Ubuntu Studio.
[15:39] <sick_rimmit> Ah ha it so quite there, I though I was on the wrong server
[15:40] <ahoneybun> its a saturday lol
[15:40] <sick_rimmit> Getting frustrated with Internet DJ Console, trying to make it work so I could use it for Kubuntu Podcast
[15:40] <sick_rimmit> But it's being very naughty and won't play anything :-(
[15:40] <ahoneybun> mm
[15:41] <BluesKaj> heh, well i was actually asking sick_rimmit, but ahoneybun for how and what do you use studio? I've often thought about it , but I don't do much recording.
[15:41] <ahoneybun> BluesKaj: sick_rimmit said he booted to Ubuntu Studio.
[15:41] <ahoneybun> I've not used it
[15:41] <sick_rimmit> It's actually very good
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ok , should have scrolled up
[15:42] <sick_rimmit> I use it for Midi and Audio using Rosegarden, and Ardour
[15:42] <sick_rimmit> For Guitar and Vocals, and play over backing tracks
[15:42] <BluesKaj> oh that must be quite a setup
[15:42] <sick_rimmit> But getting Jack setup and working is a PITA
[15:42] <BluesKaj> right, I've heard that
[15:42] <sick_rimmit> Get really confusing very quickly
[15:43] <BluesKaj> we're thinking of recording some tracks, but looks like we're gonna go with reaper on W7
[15:44] <BluesKaj> none of the other guys are linux users
[15:46] <BluesKaj> back in the day we used to record thru an audio centron mixer into HiFi vhs tapes
[15:47] <BluesKaj> I'm old :-)
[18:16] <sick_rimmit> It's no good, I've had to resort to RTFM on IDJC
[18:24] <BluesKaj> IDJC?
[18:28] <sick_rimmit> Internet DJ Console
[18:28] <sick_rimmit> It's a DJ Mixing tool
[18:28] <sick_rimmit> That I can't figure out how to use
[19:01] <lordievader> Isn't that the first step when trying to figure out how something works? Reading the manual?
[19:03] <murthy> how to stop kickoff from not showing my chrome bookmarks
[19:03] <murthy> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346602
[20:22] <ovidiu-florin> I think I've added backports wron
[20:22] <ovidiu-florin> I've tried it 3 times
[20:23] <ovidiu-florin> and either ppas started working differently, or....
[20:23] <ovidiu-florin> there are no new updates in backports for wily
[20:23] <yofel> depends on what you expect to be "new"
[20:24] <ovidiu-florin> anything
[20:24] <ovidiu-florin> I've added backports
[20:24] <ovidiu-florin> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[20:24] <sgclark> plasma is in backports
[20:24] <ovidiu-florin> and ran sudo apt-get update
[20:24] <yofel> current contents: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=wily
[20:25] <ovidiu-florin> and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:25] <ovidiu-florin> and I have no new updates
[20:25] <sgclark> dunno if I should apps in there yet. ktp is busted.
[20:25] <sgclark> well it is there..
[20:25] <ovidiu-florin> isn't backports disabled durring upgrade?
[20:25] <yofel> release upgrade? yes
[20:26] <yofel> lets do this the foolproof way: what's your version of powerdevil?
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[20:27] <murthy> could anyone help be with a bug
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> muon sais 4:5.4.3
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> says*
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know what 4: means
[20:27] <yofel> epoch, technical stuff
[20:28] <sgclark> that is the latest ovidiu-florin
[20:28] <yofel> but that's as new as you'll get
[20:28] <sgclark> murthy: sorry I have to head out shortly
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> then I had backports before?
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> but didn't know it
[20:28] <murthy> sgclark: ok
[20:28] <yofel> possibly, did you use the release upgrade or did you dist-upgrade?
[20:28] <sgclark> must have. there is nothing newer
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> muon updatec click click finish
[20:29] <murthy> yofel: can you spare a min?
[20:29] <yofel> looking at that bug link
[20:29] <ovidiu-florin> I didn't upgrade to wily via CLI
[20:29] <yofel> hm, I never did the muon thing, and now I wonder what that actually executes :/
[20:31] <ovidiu-florin> I think it runs commands
[20:32] <ovidiu-florin> has any of you experienced terrible KRunner in Wily?
[20:32] <ovidiu-florin> or terrible searchin in Kickoff?
[20:32] <murthy> yofel: does kickoff use baloo to display chrome bookmarks?
[20:32] <yofel> murthy: no idea. I can confirm that the limiting doesn't work in kickoff though
[20:33] <yofel> I thought that was the same code as krunner, but it doesn't seem so
[20:33] <murthy> yofel: ya
[20:33] <murthy> yofel: can you confirm on the bug report so that I can reopen it
[20:34] <murthy> can you give me Kai Uwe Broulik nick
[20:34] <ovidiu-florin> whenever I try to search for something in krunner it lags massively
[20:35] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: can't say I've seen that
[20:35] <ovidiu-florin> also when ever I try co calculate something in it
[20:35] <ovidiu-florin> if lags when showing the numbers I type
[20:37] <yofel> murthy: kbroulik according to identity
[20:37] <murthy> ok
[20:37] <yofel> would be good if you could confirm it with plasma 5.4.3 too
[20:38] <murthy> wait
[20:38] <murthy> I can confirm
[20:38] <murthy> I am on 5.4.3
[20:39] <murthy> and the bookmarks are still showing, I will update the bug report
[20:39] <yofel> I wonder what component that search kcm is
[20:39] <yofel> the defaults button does nothing
[20:41] <yofel> fun, running "kcmshell5 baloofile" crashed krunner...
[20:41] <yofel> mdb_dbi_open()
[20:41] <yofel> balooooooooooooo @³[]²¼²3
[20:43] <yofel> ah, plasmasearch
[20:43] <murthy> opens fine here
[20:44] <yofel> the db crash is a rather common one
[20:44] <yofel> but I think it only oocurs when indexing is disabled
[20:45] <murthy> do you want to update the component?
[20:45] <murthy> right now its kickoff
[20:45] <yofel> leave it at kickoff
[20:45] <murthy> ok
[20:45] <yofel> krunner did filter the search, so it's not the kcm
[20:46] <murthy> I just reopened the bug
[20:46] <murthy> yofel: for me krunner works fine
[20:47] <murthy> krunner does not show bookmarks
[20:47] <murthy> when opted out
[20:47] <yofel> that's what I just said?
[20:47] <murthy> ah sorry
[20:49] <soee_> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDE-Frameworks-5.16
[20:55] <murthy> yofel: when will the ffmpegthumbs frameworks package be available?
[20:56] <yofel> erm, can't remember right now. There was some talk about the missing plugins lately
[20:57] <yofel> wasn't there a way to do full text search in kmail?
[20:58] <murthy> yofel: baloo search?
[20:58] <murthy> baloo indexes kmail right?
[20:58] <yofel> I was just too blind to find the search dialog -.-
[20:59] <murthy> I am not sure which plugin was refered too regarding ffmpegthumbs, but I am using it right now from frameworks without any issue
[21:01] <yofel> from git I guess
[21:01] <murthy> ya
[21:01] <yofel> should be in applications 15.12 then I guess
[21:01] <murthy> ok
[21:01] <yofel> can't find the mail
[21:02] <murthy> its ok
[21:02] <yofel> and the "find message" dialog in kmail doesn't seem to work
[21:02] <murthy> I am getting those mail too
[21:02] <yofel> how helpful
[21:02] <murthy> I will search it
[21:02] <murthy> heh
[21:02] <murthy> try the milo search widget
[21:03] <yofel> We are sorry, Plasma closed unepectedly
[21:03] <yofel> and the crash is unretracable
[21:03] <yofel> I quit
[21:04] <murthy> :)
[21:04] <murthy> seems the same db error
[21:04] <yofel> well, it doesn't retrace it at all, and I have like almost all debug packages installed
[21:06] <murthy> that happens to me too, I find some of the debug messages missing. any idea why?
[21:07] <murthy> sorry that happened when with dolphin
[21:07] <murthy> when I was trying to debug ffmpegthumbs
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.317804
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-br
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[00:09] <ama22> Olá pessoal. Alguem sabe se dá pra transferir arquivos entre o Ubuntu e o Windows atraves do wifi ?
[00:09] <astroo-> ola
[00:12] <asdf999> ama22, da sim
[00:13] <asdf999> via nautilus
[00:13] <asdf999> ou ssh
[00:14] <asdf999> no nautilus entre em arquivos/ conectar ao servidor
[00:15] <ama22> asdf999, muito obrigado !
[00:16] <asdf999> de nada
[00:37] <Carol> Olá
[00:37] <Carol> Estou tendo dificuldades com a minha versão 14.04. Não consigo fazer updates
[00:38] <Carol> Gostaria de ir para a 15.10
[00:38] <Carol> mas não sei bem como
[00:39] <barna> ola Carol.
[00:40] <barna> Carol, qual o problema com a 14.04? ela esta ativa. se fosse a 14.10 ai vc teria problemas mesmo.
[00:40] <Carol> está ativa, mas quando faço updates recebo notificações de que há problemas
[00:41] <barna> carol "ha problemas" é um tanto quanto vago. nos diga qual o problema!
[00:41] <asdf999> Carol, segue esse tutorial aqui: http://www.ubuntudicas.com.br/blog/2011/04/atualizando-a-versao-do-ubuntu-via-terminal/
[00:42] <barna> ixi, ja vi esse capitulo da novela....... hheheheheehehehehehe
[00:43] <Carol> não consigo atualizar via terminal
[00:43] <asdf999> via sudo
[00:44] <Carol> beleza
[00:44] <Carol> grata
[00:45] <asdf999> não a de quer
[01:00] <asdf999> Carol, conseguiu executar o comando ?
[01:02] <Carol> sim
[01:02] <asdf999> nem me deu tchau
[01:10] <Carol> Voltando para agradecer mais uma vez a ajuda. Atualizações em curso
[01:10] <Carol> ;)
[01:11] <MerliM> :D
[01:11] <MerliM> Carol, só têm feraaa aqui
[01:11] <asdf999> Carol, muito obrigado
[01:11] <asdf999> conseguiu fazer o upgrade ?
[01:12] <Carol> Bom poder contar com gente gentil.
[01:12] <asdf999> foi rapido
[01:12] <Carol> As atualizações estão em curso. Daqui a pouco eu devo poder reiniciar
[01:12] <asdf999> é assim mesmo
[01:13] <asdf999> mas raramente aparece mulheres lindas por aqui
[01:14] <Carol> uma pena então que já vou embora.... mais uma vez, obrigada
[01:14] <asdf999> kkkkkkkkkk
[01:14] <asdf999> até daqui a pouco
[01:25] <MerliM> Eita seleção brasileiraaa credo
[01:25] <MerliM> uahua
[01:25] <asdf999> tá quanto mano ?
[01:27] <MerliM> 1 x 1
[01:27] <asdf999> bom demais
[01:27] <asdf999> tava 1 a 0
[01:27] <asdf999> vamo virar essa bos*a
[01:27] <MerliM> gol na cagada poww
[01:27] <MerliM> bate rebate
[01:28] <asdf999> o que importa é que é gol
[01:30] <MerliM> o que importa é a pressão q ta pegando
[01:50] <shallwe> caracas inventei de fazer o redimensionamento da partição do windows no windows kkk, ta até agora rodando ainda acho que já faz 1h
[01:51] <shallwe> depois do ubuntu vou fazer no livecd mesmo
[01:51] <MerliM> Rapa o que David Luiz faz nesse time
[01:52] <MerliM> credooo
[01:52] <barna> shallwe, se vc moveu o inicio da partição, vai demorar muuuuuuuuitas horas mais.
[01:52] <asdf999> shallwe, demora assim mesmo mano
[01:52] <asdf999> o importante é não cancelar
[01:53] <asdf999> se não perde tudo
[01:53] <barna> ou se moveu a partição de lugar. unica coisa q demora menos é reduzir o final da partição.
[01:53] <shallwe> na realidade nao esse hd tem 4 partições 1)boot com 350mb 2)backup 3)linux ext4 4)swap
[01:53] <shallwe> mandei diminuir a 2 backup
[01:54] <shallwe> até agora não entendi pq fiz swap kkk mas tudo bem
[01:54] <shallwe> bom deixa rolar é sabadão mesmo amanhã
[01:55] <shallwe> agora realmente é uma pena, todo pc bom, veloz com algo mecânico, um HD kkk
[01:56] <shallwe> fogo que os ssds estão caros ainda
[01:57] <MerliM> Cabouuuuuu empate que foi uma mega-sena
[01:58] <asdf999> brasil vai ser futuro campeao da copa mano
[01:58] <asdf999> pode acreditar
[01:58] <asdf999> a final vai ser brasil e alemanha
[01:58] <asdf999> 8 a 0 pro brasil
[01:59] <asdf999> kkkkkkkkk
[01:59] <xGrind> 8 a 0 pro brasil? kk
[01:59] <xGrind> vai perder pra argentina
[01:59] <asdf999> sem essa mano
[01:59] <asdf999> argentina nem vai para copa
[02:00] <Daekdroom> Depois do nada de mudança na Seleção e da CBF apesar do fiasco da Copa de 2014, não tem como ganhar a próxima não.
[02:00] <asdf999> o chile tomou o lugar dela
[03:26] <jvitttor> olá
[03:27] <astroo-> ola
[03:28] <jvitttor> estou com problema para fazer instalçao no central de programas do ubuntu
[03:29] <jvitttor> não consigo instalar nada
[03:29] <astroo-> diz que versao e
[03:29] <jvitttor> aparece a seguinte mensagem
[03:29] <jvitttor> Falha ao baixar informações do repositório
[03:29] <jvitttor> Verificar sua conexão com a Internet.
[03:29] <jvitttor> W:Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found , W:Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/restricted/source/Sources 404 Not Found , W:Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/universe/source/Sources 404 Not Found , W:Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/multiverse/source/Sources 404 Not
[03:30] <jvitttor> minha interner está estável
[03:30] <jvitttor> internet
[03:30] <astroo-> diz que versao ubuntu tens e da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[03:31] <jvitttor> ubuntu 12.10
[03:31] <jvitttor> 2,8 GiB
[03:31] <jvitttor> Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz × 4
[03:31] <jvitttor> 32-bit
[03:31] <astroo-> esse ja nao tem suporte
[03:31] <jvitttor> qual tem suporte
[03:31] <jvitttor> ?
[03:31] <astroo-> ve o topico do canal
[03:32] <jvitttor> ok
[04:10] <jvitttor> olá
[04:10] <jvitttor> boa noite
[04:11] <astroo-> ola
[04:12] <jvitttor> possuo o ubuntu 14.10 estou tendo dificuldade nas instalações no central de programas do ubuntu
[04:12] <jvitttor> aparece a seguinte mensagem
[04:12] <jvitttor> Falha ao baixar informações do repositório
[04:12] <jvitttor> Verificar sua conexão com a Internet.
[04:12] <jvitttor> W:Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 200.236.31.4 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/restricted/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 200.236.31.4 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/universe/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 200.236.31.4 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubunt
[04:13] <astroo-> o certo e o 14.04
[04:15] <jvitttor> eu baixe o que estava disponivel no site http://ubuntu-br.org/
[04:15] <jvitttor> onde eu consigo baixar a versão 14.04
[04:15] <jvitttor> ?
[04:16] <astroo-> espera
[04:17] <astroo-> http://ubuntu-br.org/download
[04:17] <jvitttor> qual o mais adequdo para mim o i386 ou amd64
[04:17] <jvitttor> ?
[04:18] <astroo-> quanta ram tens?
[04:18] <jvitttor> 2,8 GiB
[04:19] <jvitttor> esta aparecendo 'not found' para todos os links do 14.04
[04:19] <jvitttor> os links do 14.1 estão indo direto para download
[04:19] <jvitttor> tem certeza que consigo baixar o 14.04 nesse link que você me passou?
[04:20] <astroo-> https://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:20] <astroo-> esse e o oficial
[04:21] <astroo-> i e intel amd e amd
[04:22] <jvitttor> então o link do 14.02 esta off no site oficial
[04:22] <jvitttor> eu encotrei o 14.02.3
[04:23] <jvitttor> estou baixando
[04:23] <jvitttor> vai resolver meu problema
[04:23] <astroo-> mais nao sei
[04:23] <jvitttor> baixei o i386
[04:23] <jvitttor> pois meu pc e intel
[04:23] <astroo-> versao 386 porque nao tens mais de 3g de ram
[04:24] <jvitttor> eu devo baixar qual
[04:24] <jvitttor> o i386 ou amd64
[04:24] <jvitttor> meu pc é
[04:24] <jvitttor> 2,8 GiB
[04:25] <jvitttor> Intel® Core™ i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz × 4
[04:25] <jvitttor> 32-bit
[04:25] <astroo-> i386
[04:25] <jvitttor> estou baixando o certo entao
[04:25] <jvitttor> vou tentar intalar o 14.02.3
[04:25] <jvitttor> e ver no que dá
[04:26] <jvitttor> obrigado pela ateção amigo
[04:26] <jvitttor> atenção
[04:26] <jvitttor> abraço
[04:27] <astroo-> igualmente ate
[10:18] <deathphill> dae galera
[10:19] <barna> bom?
[10:19] <deathphill> acabei de instalar o ubuntu na minha maquina
[10:19] <barna> :)
[10:19] <barna> primeiro ubuntu?
[10:19] <deathphill> só que ta cim problemas pra fazer download
[10:19] <deathphill> primeiro sim
[10:19] <barna> Seja Bem Vindo!!!
[10:19] <barna> qual versão?
[10:19] <deathphill> 14.10
[10:19] <barna> perdeu!
[10:20] <barna> 14.10 foi descontinuada!
[10:20] <barna> :(
[10:20] <deathphill> onde acho a ultima versao?
[10:20] <barna> deathphill, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline
[10:20] <deathphill> vlw
[10:20] <barna> deathphill, cha te explica 1 coisa.
[10:21] <barna> deathphill, existem 2 tipos de versão, as LTS e as non-LTS.
[10:21] <deathphill> aham
[10:21] <barna> as LTS são "versão final" com menos bug e suporte por em media 5anos, as non-LTS são "vesão de teste" pra testar as novidades etc....
[10:22] <barna> a 14.10 foi uma non-LTS depois de 9 meses elas são abandonadas!
[10:22] <barna> a atual LTS é a 14.04 e a proxima será a 16.04 (q será lança em abril de 2016)
[10:23] <deathphill> ah blz
[10:23] <deathphill> vlw pela força ae
[10:23] <barna> deathphill, aki vc pode escolher qual baixar. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:23] <deathphill> brigadão
[10:23] <barna> nois!
[10:23] <barna> qualquer coisa sempre tem alguem aki, as vezes a gente demora um tipo pra responder!
[10:24] <barna> c deu sorte q tava passando pela janela na hora q perguntou!
[10:24] <deathphill> hahahaha
[10:24] <deathphill> blzinha cara
[10:24] <deathphill> valeu mesmo
[12:12] <Muhammad> Alguém com processador amd que utilize ubuntu?
[14:16] <eloi_carneiro> pessoal qual esta mais leve o ubuntu mate ou o lubuntu?
[14:16] <barna> boa pergunta, eu acho q o lubuntu deve ganhar por um pouco.
[14:16] <barna> mas nas minha maquinas antigas uso o mate.
[14:19] <eloi_carneiro> barna, eu tenho umas maquinas tipo pentium 4 com 512MB
[14:19] <barna> eu tb eloi_carneiro
[14:20] <barna> uso o 12.04 + mate
[14:20] <barna> pego o mini-ubuntu, instalo sem nada, e coloco o mate com --no-install-recomends, fica bem leve!
[14:20] <eloi_carneiro> barna, qual vc acha que esta melhor com mate? o ubuntu ou o mint?
[14:21] <eloi_carneiro> hummm
[14:21] <barna> kra eu sempre achei o mint pessssssssssssaaaaaaaddddoooooooo
[14:21] <eloi_carneiro> barna, qual é esse mini-ubuntu?
[14:21] <eloi_carneiro> vc tem link?
[14:21] <barna> 1 seg q tem mando
[14:21] <barna> so ligar a vpn q a gvt ta me trolando d novo
[14:22] <eloi_carneiro> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:22] <eloi_carneiro> é esse aqui?
[14:22] <barna> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[14:22] <barna> 28mb a iso do 12.04 i386
[14:23] <barna> eloi_carneiro, sim, o q te mandei e o q vc achou da na mesma
[14:24] <eloi_carneiro> barna, eu vou fazer uns testes aqui, obrigado pela ajuda
[14:24] <barna> eloi_carneiro, nada
[14:24] <eloi_carneiro> só mais uma questão
[14:24] <eloi_carneiro> qual é o seu uso nessas maquinas?
[14:24] <barna> eloi_carneiro, vc manda do role do --no-install-recommends?
[14:24] <barna> eloi_carneiro, render farm (ou clustering)
[14:25] <eloi_carneiro> entendi, eu quero ver se consigo fazer PDV
[14:25] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[14:25] <barna> pdv?
[14:25] <eloi_carneiro> ponto de venda
[14:25] <barna> hummm, se pa rola.
[14:26] <barna> na verdade atualmente nem to mais usando interface nelas, mas quando usei rolou de boas.
[14:26] <eloi_carneiro> vamos ver
[14:26] <eloi_carneiro> eu tenho 28 maquinas pra instalar :D
[14:26] <barna> só tem uma com interface aki, a galera usa até facebook nela.
[14:26] <barna> hahahahahahahahaha
[14:27] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[14:27] <barna> eloi_carneiro, vai instalar de uma por uma?
[14:27] <eloi_carneiro> então, vc sabe alguma solução de instalação automatizada?
[14:27] <eloi_carneiro> tipo o wds para windows
[14:28] <eloi_carneiro> se não me engano tem umas opções para linux
[14:28] <eloi_carneiro> usando o pxe
[14:28] <barna> puts me falaram de varias delas esses dias, eu uso pxe aki
[14:28] <eloi_carneiro> e qual o pacote vc instalou para fornecer o serviço na rede
[14:28] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[14:29] <barna> eu fiz uma imagem modificada com o remastersys/puinguybuilder e meti no servidor PXE
[14:29] <barna> eloi_carneiro, montar o servidor PXE num é só "instalar um pacote"
[14:29] <barna> mas posso te ajudar fazer se quiseres
[14:29] <eloi_carneiro> se vc poder me ajudar
[14:29] <eloi_carneiro> eu agradeço
[14:29] <barna> eu e um amigo tamo fazendo um how-to com um script de automação, mas ainda não ta pronto
[14:30] <barna> eloi_carneiro, que fazer agora?
[14:31] <eloi_carneiro> daqui a pouco eu estou saindo do trabalho
[14:31] <eloi_carneiro> se vc tiver algum material para estudo
[14:31] <eloi_carneiro> eu vou pegar nesse final de semana
[14:31] <barna> ok, vou te passar 3 links
[14:32] <barna> eloi_carneiro, isso pode ser util tb. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/+archive/ubuntu/precise-mate
[14:32] <eloi_carneiro> uma coisa que estou reparando é que vc esta usando 12.04
[14:33] <eloi_carneiro> porque não o 14.04
[14:33] <eloi_carneiro> ficou pesado?
[14:33] <barna> o 12.04 ainda ta vivo e sim, e mais leve q o 14.04.
[14:33] <barna> nos nodes p4 sem interface uso o 14.04, com interface o 12.04
[14:35] <barna> eloi_carneiro, as bases são essas: servidor dhcp = http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-install-dhcp-server-in-centos-and-ubuntu/
[14:35] <barna> eloi_carneiro, pxe = http://www.unixmen.com/install-and-configure-pxe-server-on-ubuntu-15-04/
[14:35] <barna> eloi_carneiro, essa é a base que eu escrevi pro tutorial. https://github.com/rauldipeas/AviX/edit/master/extras/PXE.txt
[14:36] <barna> eloi_carneiro, esse ultimo link ta a configuração de um servidor PXE q montei semana passada.
[14:36] <eloi_carneiro> bacana
[14:36] <eloi_carneiro> estou vendo aqui
[14:36] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: as máquinas são só pra PDV?
[14:36] <eloi_carneiro> o 12.04 tem suporte até 2017
[14:36] <eloi_carneiro> sim
[14:37] <eloi_carneiro> não vou deixa nada a lem do sistema
[14:37] <eloi_carneiro> no maximo um pidgin
[14:37] <eloi_carneiro> para comunicação interna
[14:37] <eloi_carneiro> nem navegador
[14:37] <eloi_carneiro> nem nada
[14:37] <barna> eloi_carneiro, o q fiz aki foi, fiz uma instalação numa VM, mudei tudo q o precisava e gerei a iso com pinguyrebuilder.
[14:37] <eloi_carneiro> correto
[14:38] <eloi_carneiro> o tamanho do hd influencia
[14:38] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[14:38] <barna> eloi_carneiro, nesse sistema q mandei o link do --no-install-recomends ele fica SEM NADA alem do sistema base.
[14:38] <jaqent> o PDV usa o que? GTK+, Tk, Qt?
[14:38] <eloi_carneiro> gtk
[14:39] <eloi_carneiro> tanto o mate quanto o lxde
[14:39] <eloi_carneiro> senão me engano usam o gtk como padrão
[14:39] <barna> eloi_carneiro, imagino q fique com menos de 1gb a iso final, mas vc tem q ter espaço na maquina pelo menos 3x o tamanho da iso. nas maquinas q vão usar o PXE o hd fica desligado.
[14:40] <barna> diskless
[14:40] <eloi_carneiro> espaço que vc esta falando é de memória ram
[14:40] <eloi_carneiro> correto
[14:40] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[14:41] <jaqent> já considerou a possibilidade de não usar um DE só um WM?
[14:41] <eloi_carneiro> o que estou falando é de um servidor pxe para instalação do sistema pela rede
[14:42] <barna> eloi_carneiro, vc vai realmente instalar em todas as maquinas?
[14:42] <barna> se sim, existem sistemas de gerenciamento pra muitas maquinas. mas num sei.
[14:42] <barna> o nome
[14:42] <eloi_carneiro> http://sourceforge.net/projects/cruciblewds/
[14:43] <eloi_carneiro> existe esse projeto
[14:43] <eloi_carneiro> que realizado o wds
[14:43] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: eu sei, estou falando sobre outra coisa. Se é só para o PDV e as máquinas são realmente limitadas as vezes só de corta a DE e deixar só um WM já melhora um tanto o desempenho
[14:43] <barna> eu uso diskless, as maquinas não tem HD, usam o sistema pelo pxe
[14:43] <eloi_carneiro> mas acho que isso é apenas para windows
[14:43] <eloi_carneiro> correto
[14:44] <barna> tem varios pra linux, o Rauldispeas e hertz me falam um tanto esses dias, pena q os 2 tão off agora.
[14:44] <eloi_carneiro> sim, mas o que eu queria fazer com o pxe, é que ele fornecesse o sistema para instalação
[14:45] <barna> ah, ai é facil
[14:45] <barna> eu vou mais alem, coloco o sistema pra rodar no PXE
[14:46] <barna> mas pra 28 maquinas o servidor tem q ter ethernet gigabits
[14:47] <eloi_carneiro> o servidor tem
[14:47] <eloi_carneiro> e é tudo switch
[14:47] <barna> /1000?
[14:48] <eloi_carneiro> o servidor 10.000
[14:48] <eloi_carneiro> 2 portas
[14:48] <eloi_carneiro> as maquinas
[14:48] <eloi_carneiro> estações são 100 ou 1000
[14:48] <barna> se for 10/100 num rola. o p4 pode ter 10/100.
[14:49] <eloi_carneiro> é isso
[14:49] <eloi_carneiro> o servidor que é mais de 1000
[14:49] <eloi_carneiro> é 10mil
[14:49] <barna> é como ta aki, o servidor e o swith /1000 e os p4 10/100
[14:50] <barna> então rola de rodar o sistema por PXE, em diskless, todas as maquinas usando o mesmo sistema.
[14:50] <mirqui> boa tarde
[14:50] <barna> mas ai fica ao seu criterio se realmente é util, pra mim é.
[14:50] <barna> boas mirqui
[14:51] <eloi_carneiro> mas tem como fazer um servidor pxe apenas para puxar apenas o instalador?
[14:51] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem?
[14:51] <barna> eloi_carneiro, sim, é muuuuuito facil
[14:52] <barna> eloi_carneiro, na queles q mandei o q ele faz.
[14:53] <eloi_carneiro> barna, ok eu vou estudar aquele material então, muito obrigado
[14:53] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: se as máquinas são todas exatamente iguais vc pode só clonar uma pra outra
[14:53] <lynxer10> boa tarde galera
[14:53] <eloi_carneiro> jaqent, com o dd
[14:53] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[14:54] <barna> boas lynxer10
[14:54] <barna> tudo na paz mirqui e tu?
[14:54] <lynxer10> :)
[14:54] <mirqui> tudo bem graças a deus
[14:54] <eloi_carneiro> jaqent, qual programa/pacote?
[14:54] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: ou rsync pela rede. a única coisa é que vc precisa ajustar o fstab depois
[14:54] <jaqent> e o bootloader XD
[14:55] <eloi_carneiro> coreto
[14:55] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: eu geralmente faço algo assim mais ou menos como isso -> http://positon.org/clone-a-linux-system-install-to-another-computer
[14:56] <lynxer10> uma duvida galera, nao to conseguindo fazer o raspberry pi2 reconhecer um hd externo. Ele nao tem forca suficiente pra isso ? Necessariamente tenho que ter uma fonte de energia externa para o HD? foi mal a pergunta besta mas ja busquei no pai dos burros digital e nao acho nada que resolva o problema
[14:56] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: mas puxar o installer por PXE tb rola.
[14:57] <jaqent> eloi_carneiro: eu não sei se da pra fazer a instalação/imaging/cloning com mas vc poderia dar uma olhada nas ferramentas de orquestramento/deploying tipo (R)?ex, Puppet, Chef, etc
[14:58] <MerliM> depende hd externo desktop??? Provavelmente precise mesmo de uma alimentação externa a âmperagem deve não ser suficiente para o HD
[14:58] <MerliM> lynxer10, é necessário um HD externo para o que queres fazer mano??
[14:58] <eloi_carneiro> jaqent, isso eu vou usar para outra coisa
[14:58] <eloi_carneiro> jaqent, para a parte de atualização do sistema
[14:59] <eloi_carneiro> e instalação
[14:59] <lynxer10> na realidade era mais uma curiosidade que necessidade
[14:59] <eloi_carneiro> por hora o que eu preciso é apenas instalar uma versão leve do ubuntu
[14:59] <eloi_carneiro> em 28 maquinas
[14:59] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[15:00] <lynxer10> to rodando o openelec nele
[15:00] <lynxer10> os pendrives funcionam de boa mas HD externo nao
[15:00] <lynxer10> nenhum pai da forca nao curiosidade mesmo
[15:01] <eloi_carneiro> lynxer10, que nem o merlim disse, acho que vai faltar energia
[15:01] <lynxer10> eu desconfiava que seria algo do tipo, so tava na duvida
[15:01] <lynxer10> valeu galera
[15:02] <eloi_carneiro> inclusive o merlim falou certinho, é a amperagem
[15:02] <lynxer10> eu alterei a amperagem
[15:02] <lynxer10> vem como padrao 600 mA
[15:02] <lynxer10> esta com 1200 mA
[15:02] <lynxer10> mesmo assim nao reconhece o HD
[15:03] <lynxer10> nao testei um HD com fonte de energia pq nao tenho
[15:03] <lynxer10> vou ver se consigo algum emprestado pra fazer o teste
[15:03] <eloi_carneiro> então o que eu tenho aqui
[15:03] <eloi_carneiro> é com fonte
[15:03] <eloi_carneiro> vai tranquilo
[15:03] <lynxer10> droga, nao queria me convencer disso huahuauha blza vei obrigado
[15:03] <lynxer10> vou arrumar um com fonte
[15:04] <eloi_carneiro> T+
[15:05] <eloi_carneiro> eu vou sair também, barna, jaqent, muito obrigado pela ajuda! até mais
[15:06] <MerliM> lynxer10, compra uma fonte generica 30 conto
[15:06] <MerliM> e coloca so a alimentação do disco nela
[15:06] <MerliM> e o resto via rasp
[15:07] <MerliM> depois vê se existe um sistema estilo rele pra controlar a fonte atx saca
[15:07] <lynxer10> isso que vou fazer, valeu pela ajuda cara
[15:07] <MerliM> pro disco nao ficar eternamente ligado, agora isso em ambiente de teste producao nao recomendo nao
[15:09] <lynxer10> blza. valeu cara
[15:09] <MerliM> nhr
[17:11] <dinho094> ...
[17:12] <jaqent> ?
[17:12] <dinho094> Nada não.
[17:12] <jaqent> Ok então.
[17:13] <dinho094> Algum gamer aqui ?
[17:15] <Aloizio> gamer? gosto de jogar mais não sou gamer
[17:16] <dinho094> Então, nunca joguei nada no ubuntu. Alguma dica ?
[17:17] <jaqent> steam?
[17:17] <jaqent> :P
[17:17] <dinho094> Acho que ser, rs
[17:17] <dinho094> serve*
[17:20] <jaqent> dinho094: fica prvávelmente mais fácil pro pessoal te ajudar se vc for um pouco mais claro no que vc quer/gosta de jogar
[17:21] <jaqent> Tem um monte de jogos que rodam nativo no Linux atualmente
[17:21] <dinho094> rpg/mmorpg
[17:21] <dinho094> De preferência que ocupe pouco espaço
[17:22] <dinho094> E que não precise de um processador muito forte.
[17:25] <dinho094> Achei um interessante.
[17:25] <jaqent> dinho094: quanto é 'pouco espaço' pra você?
[17:25] <dinho094> Left 4 Dead 2.
[17:25] <dinho094> Vamos considerar 10Gb.
[17:27] <jaqent> dinho094: vc consegue achar um monte então na Steam. (Provávelmente a maioria não vai ser free/gratis)
[17:29] <jaqent> eu rodo vários jogos da steam no linux a alguns anos já, não tive muitos problemas e na maioria dos casos com bom desempenho.
[17:31] <dinho094> Achei dois gratuitos para linux no site da steam.
[17:31] <dinho094> Endless Sky e Krosmaster Arena.
[17:31] <dinho094> Já ouviram falar ?
[17:32] <jaqent> Já mas nunca joguei nenhum dos dois.
[17:32] <jaqent> dinho094: da uma olhada no LGDB (Linux Game DB: http://www.lgdb.org/ )
[17:34] <dinho094> Tô olhando.
[17:34] <dinho094> Apareceu logo aqui o Endless Sky.
[17:36] <jaqent> outra alternativa é dar uma olhada no PlayDeb ( http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/15.10/ )
[17:36] <jaqent> embora faça alguns anos que eu não use o PlayDeb, então não sei ao certo como anda
[17:38] <dinho094> Achi um legal no PlayDeb.
[17:38] <dinho094> Achei*
[17:41] <dinho094> Muito obrigado, pessoal.
[17:42] <dinho094> Agora vou jogar :)
[17:42] <MerliM> dinho094, bom jogo
[17:42] <dinho094> Obrigado, mais uma vez.
[17:48] <jaqent> mais um cliente feliz :P
[17:59] <Aloizio> galera to aqui estudando e sempre surge dúvida pergunto. usuários do win como nome e senha iguais do samba não pedem senha o logar diretório home?
[18:00] <Aloizio> no samba configurei para compartilhar somente a pasta home, e criei estes usuários no linux, samba e windows, todos com mesmo nome e senha.
[18:17] <MerliM> Aloizio, depende se no samba configurar a autenticacao para security = user
[18:17] <MerliM> creio que no primeiro acesso pede sim dai existe a opção no windows para salvar senha
[18:18] <MerliM> apartir dai creio nao ser mais necessário a não ser que exclua do banco de dados do windows o altere essa senha
[18:19] <MerliM> Aloizio, esse home que vc cita é no windows ou no linux
[18:19] <Aloizio> no linux
[18:20] <Miruki> tenho uma pergunta, tenho dois programas q estão no meu pc e gostaria de desinstalá-los, entretanto ñ consigo... eles ñ estão na central
[18:20] <Miruki> eles são o virtualbox e o ubuntu after
[18:21] <Miruki> o virtualbox até consigo abrir pelo terminal, mas ñ consigo desinstalá-lo por lá
[18:21] <Aloizio> Merlim, fiz adduser aloizio -m para criar diretório home para ele, e no samba no arquivo original editei compartilhando somente o diretório [home]
[18:22] <Miruki> o q eu posso fazer?
[18:31] <jaqent> Miruki: como vc instalou eles?
[18:32] <Miruki> bom, o virtualbox foi através desse site: https://www.virtualbox.org/
[18:32] <Miruki> o ubuntu after ñ me lembro...
[18:33] <Miruki> mas meu foco é retirar só o virtualbox mesmo...
[18:34] <Miruki> no program, o box, tem uma ajuda q tem um manual do programa... falando de como pode-ser desinstalar, mas eu tentei aqui e ñ tá indo
[18:34] <Miruki> ele fala p/ digitar: pkgrm SUNWvboxkern, no modo root e ñ foi, ñ aconteceu nada
[18:39] <Miruki> jaqent, vc sabe o q devo fazer?
[18:45] <Miruki> ..............
[19:05] <mirqui> boa tarde
[20:54] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[20:54] <nuno_nunes> alguem esta a precisar de suporte?
[20:58] <jaqent> dessa vez ele foi rápido
[21:21] <bbbb> heuahuea xP
[21:54] <TuxTek> ola boa noite
[21:54] <TuxTek> :D
[21:54] <jap_> boa noite
[21:55] <TuxTek> alguem precisa de suporte
[21:55] <jaqent> TuxTek: boa noite :D
[21:55] <jap_> Estou iniciando com ubuntu, e para variar tenho dificuldades.
[21:56] <TuxTek> jap_, eu estou aqui para ajudar
[21:56] <TuxTek> que versão do ubuntu usas
[21:57] <jap_> Estou tentando baixar o plugin de Flash player para mozila, mas recebo msg de erro de dowload e para verificar a conxao de internet
[21:57] <jap_> 14.04
[21:58] <TuxTek> faça este comando
[21:58] <TuxTek> sudo apt-get update
[21:58] <TuxTek> no terminal
[21:59] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[21:59] <Celso> ola
[21:59] <astroo-> ola
[22:00] <jaqent> Noite o/
[22:00] <astroo-> ola
[22:00] <TuxTek> boas astro :p
[22:01] <astroo-> ola
[22:01] <lynxer10> falae
[22:01] <jaqent> ae :P
[22:02] <lynxer10> uhauhhua
[22:02] <jaqent> Como vão todos nessa noite quente de sábado?
[22:02] <TuxTek> mais alguem está a precisar de suporte
[22:02] <TuxTek> jaqent, aqui é um chat de apoio ao ubuntu
[22:02] <astroo-> tudo bem e tu?
[22:03] <TuxTek> se quiser offtopic use #ubuntu-br-offtopic
[22:04] <jaqent> quanto estress para um pouco de educação e cordialidade
[22:04] <jaqent> *estresse
[22:04] <lynxer10> huahua e mesmo
[22:04] <lynxer10> ta de boa brother
[22:04] <TuxTek> lol
[22:04] <TuxTek> alguem está a precisar de ajuda aqui?
[22:04] <lynxer10> ta quente pra caramba mesmo
[22:05] <lynxer10> po ate o momento nao mas ja ja noix arruma uma dor de cabeca
[22:05] <lynxer10> certeza
[22:05] <lynxer10> uhahuahua
[22:05] <jaqent> né XD
[22:06] <lynxer10> eu to com dificuldade na realidade de fazer o ubuntu funcionar direito no intel compute stick
[22:06] <lynxer10> o diaxo do som nao funciona
[22:07] <lynxer10> obviamente peguei a versao windows pq vem com 2 gb de ram e 32 gb de disco
[22:07] <TuxTek> :S
[22:07] <lynxer10> e ae o que aconteceu?
[22:07] <lynxer10> nao funciona wifi nem o som
[22:07] <lynxer10> foda isso vei
[22:07] <jaqent> lynxer10: fora o som não funcionar tu gostou dele? Estava pensando em pegar um.
[22:07] <jaqent> E o wifi vc conseguiu arrumar?
[22:07] <TuxTek> no terminal faça este comando
[22:08] <TuxTek> lspci
[22:08] <lynxer10> nao consegui
[22:08] <lynxer10> cara portabilidade total
[22:08] <lynxer10> te confesso mas nada mais que isso
[22:08] <TuxTek> e depois copie tudo e meta num pastebin
[22:08] <TuxTek> :)
[22:08] <lynxer10> e legal, parada novo tem sua praticidade
[22:08] <TuxTek> sera que possa ajuda?
[22:08] <lynxer10> mas para por ai
[22:08] <lynxer10> tux nao to com ele aqui agora
[22:08] <TuxTek> faça o que dgo
[22:08] <TuxTek> sem nada
[22:09] <TuxTek> eu não te posso ajudar
[22:09] <lynxer10> deixei com um amigo pra ver se ele resolve
[22:09] <TuxTek> lol
[22:09] <lynxer10> tranquilo
[22:09] <lynxer10> na semana to com ele de volta e se voce tiver por aqui me da uma mao
[22:09] <TuxTek> que linux usas?
[22:09] <lynxer10> ubuntu 15.10
[22:10] <TuxTek> lynxer10, es um novo user de linux?
[22:10] <lynxer10> na realidade apanho do sistema tem tempo
[22:10] <TuxTek> nao entendi
[22:11] <lynxer10> ja testei varias vezes o sistema
[22:11] <lynxer10> desde 2005
[22:11] <lynxer10> mas nunca tive nenhuma maquina so pra linux
[22:11] <lynxer10> hoje sim tenho so rodando linux
[22:11] <TuxTek> eu uso linux desde 2002/2003
[22:11] <TuxTek> :)
[22:11] <lynxer10> bastante tempo
[22:11] <lynxer10> algo tu deve saber
[22:11] <lynxer10> uhahuahuauha
[22:12] <TuxTek> por isso eu estou aqui para ajudar
[22:12] <lynxer10> blza
[22:12] <TuxTek> mas eu agora estou com o ubuntu desligado :p
[22:12] <lynxer10> na semana te busco qui pra ver se voce consegue me ajudar a funcionar o wifi e o som
[22:12] <jaqent> lynxer10: se importaria em dizer qual a razão pra não ter tido uma maquína só pra linux em uma década de luta? :D
[22:13] <TuxTek> o wifi se broadcom é uma dor de cabeça
[22:13] <TuxTek> :D
[22:13] <TuxTek> eu tenho 4 linuxs no meu pc e windows 10
[22:13] <TuxTek> :D
[22:16] <jap_> ola tentei o comando que me passou, mas em um momento disse que precisava de uma chave publica para abrir alguns pacotes
[22:17] <TuxTek> jap_ qual é o erro
[22:17] <TuxTek> faça um pastebin
[22:17] <jap_> rro GPG: https://private-ppa.launchpad.net utopic Release: As assinaturas a seguir não puderam ser verificadas devido à chave pública não estar disponível: NO_PUBKEY E131728675254D99 W: Falhou ao buscar http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
[22:20] <TuxTek> jap faça este comando
[22:20] <TuxTek> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com E131728675254D99
[22:20] <TuxTek> e depois faça este comando
[22:21] <TuxTek> sudo apt-get update
[22:22] <lynxer10> cara mas falta de tempo
[22:22] <lynxer10> nao trabalho na area de tecnologia
[22:22] <lynxer10> sou mais um curioso
[22:22] <lynxer10> nao tinha como usar no meu dia a dia
[22:22] <lynxer10> entao sempre deixava de lado
[22:22] <lynxer10> agora to tendo pouco mais de temp
[22:22] <lynxer10> e decidi aprender um pouco mais
[22:25] <jaqent> lynxer10: faz sentido
[22:26] <TuxTek> annakamilla boa noite amiga :)
[22:26] <annakamilla> boa noite
[22:26] <annakamilla> tá uma bala o meu note
[22:26] <annakamilla> coloquei ssd
[22:26] <TuxTek> annakamilla, :p
[22:26] <annakamilla> é um da sandisk é bom né ?
[22:27] <TuxTek> nao sei
[22:27] <TuxTek> annakamilla, eu sou o nuno_nunes :D
[22:27] <TuxTek> xD
[22:28] <annakamilla> :D
[22:28] <annakamilla> tentei instalar o debian mas nem passou pela tela de boot
[22:28] <jap_> com o comando que me passou, ainda teve erros de pacotes, mas não pediu nenhuma chave.
[22:28] <TuxTek> estranho
[22:28] <TuxTek> jap nao entendi
[22:29] <annakamilla> to com o ubuntu 14.04 com unity
[22:29] <TuxTek> jap_, faça este comando
[22:29] <annakamilla> to tentando dar uma otimizada
[22:29] <TuxTek> annakamilla, eu estou no opensuse :D
[22:29] <TuxTek> tenho 2.48 gb para fazer em updates
[22:30] <annakamilla> nossa
[22:30] <TuxTek> annakamilla, mas eu ando a fazer aos poucos
[22:30] <annakamilla> bem comilão o opensuse.
[22:30] <TuxTek> não é isso
[22:31] <TuxTek> pk eu tive que reinstalar o sistema
[22:31] <annakamilla> humm
[22:32] <annakamilla> to pensando em deixar desabilitada a swap e só usar ela para hibernar.
[22:32] <TuxTek> este linux é uma versão rolling é só instalar :D
[22:32] <annakamilla> tenho zram aqui
[22:32] <jap_> ao tentar baixar o plugin tive o mesmo resultado erro 404 file not found
[22:32] <TuxTek> eu uso a swap
[22:32] <TuxTek> nao entendi
[22:33] <lynxer10> po pior que botei ssd no meu note tb realmente e impressionante a velocidade
[22:33] <annakamilla> TuxTek tem ssd ?
[22:33] <TuxTek> escreva um pastbin :S
[22:33] <TuxTek> annakamilla, não
[22:33] <TuxTek> eu tenho um disco de 1 TB
[22:33] <TuxTek> :d
[22:33] <annakamilla> é por causa dele
[22:33] <lynxer10> 15.10 aqui e ta voando baixo
[22:33] <annakamilla> eu to no 14.04
[22:33] <TuxTek> annakamilla, os disco ssd de 1000 gb custam quase 500 euros cada
[22:33] <TuxTek> :|
[22:33] <jap_> :Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.24 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/restricted/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.24 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/universe/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.24 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://s
[22:34] <annakamilla> mas tem certeza que precisa de um hd de 1 tb ?
[22:34] <TuxTek> sim
[22:34] <TuxTek> eu tenho 10 partições
[22:35] <TuxTek> windows 10, dados, linux debian, manjaro, ubuntu e opensuse
[22:36] <TuxTek> utopic?
[22:36] <annakamilla> quantas controladoras satas vc tem ?
[22:36] <TuxTek> duas
[22:36] <TuxTek> o disco e gravador de dvd
[22:36] <TuxTek> eu estou num notebook
[22:36] <TuxTek> :D
[22:39] <annakamilla> é verdade
[22:39] <TuxTek> este pc tem 3 anos
[22:39] <TuxTek> bateria dura 2 horas :D
[22:39] <annakamilla> mas o meu tem mais que duas se não me engano.
[22:39] <TuxTek> é fixo
[22:39] <annakamilla> o meu tb tem 3 e a bateria tá viciada
[22:40] <TuxTek> já viste algum pc portatil com 3 controladores sata :D
[22:40] <TuxTek> o meu esta ligado a corrente :D
[22:40] <annakamilla> 3 anos
[22:40] <TuxTek> e mesmo com a bateria ligada e não vicia :D
[22:40] <annakamilla> ele tava constando na bios o outro hd como sata#4
[22:41] <annakamilla> o meu só viciou pq eu tirei muito do carregador e os ciclos foram se desgastando.
[22:42] <TuxTek> o meu esta sempre a gastar a bateria ate fica off
[22:42] <TuxTek> :D
[22:44] <annakamilla> nuno_nunes, http://pastebin.com/z304ftBa
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40)
[22:45] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:45] <annakamilla> a placa é de 2010, mas dá para colocar 8 gb de ram tb aqui. a original era de 2013 e nem dava para colocar o ssd.
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> o meu da :)
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> o meu da para por memoria de 8 GB de ram ddr3
[22:46] <annakamilla> o meu era aquelas placas rebas da positivo
[22:46] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:47] <annakamilla> o meu tb.
[22:47] <nuno_nunes> mas o meu é um asus x55u
[22:47] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:47] <nuno_nunes> amd apu
[22:47] <annakamilla> boa
[22:48] <nuno_nunes> este pc já tem uefi :D
[22:51] <lynxer10> esse meu aqui tb tem uefi
[22:51] <nuno_nunes> mas este veio já com o windows 7 com uefi :D
[22:52] <lynxer10> pois e aqui era win 8.1
[22:52] <lynxer10> ae apaguei a zorra toda
[22:52] <lynxer10> ahuahuuha e so ta com o ubuntu 15.10
[22:52] <nuno_nunes> mas eu estou a usar o windows e linux com uefi
[22:52] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:52] <lynxer10> ahnn
[22:53] <nuno_nunes> windows 10, linux debian, manjaro, ubuntu e opensuse
[22:53] <lynxer10> meu outro pc tem win 10
[22:53] <lynxer10> sozinho
[22:53] <lynxer10> esse tem so ubuntu
[22:53] <nuno_nunes> mas este tem esses todos :D
[22:54] <jap_> boa noite pessoal, amanha vou tentar novamente
[22:54] <astroo-> ate
[22:54] <jaqent> jap_: qual versão do ubuntu vc esta usando?
[22:54] <lynxer10> boa noite brother
[22:55] <lynxer10> va na fe
[22:55] * jaqent acha que perguntou tarde demais :s
[22:55] <nuno_nunes> o utopic é a versão 14.10 que já esta sem suporte
[22:56] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: os repositórios já foram pro limbo?
[22:56] <nuno_nunes> nao entendi?
[22:56] <jaqent> os repositórios do 14.10 ainda estão todos ativos?
[22:56] <nuno_nunes> esse repositorio já não tem suporte
[22:56] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:57] <nuno_nunes> nao :
[22:57] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:57] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: lol pq vc não falou isso pro jap_?
[22:57] <annakamilla> cai
[22:57] <nuno_nunes> já perderam o suporte em julho de 2015
[22:57] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:57] <nuno_nunes> ele nem responde
[22:57] <nuno_nunes> :|
[22:57] <jaqent> annakamilla: acontece com todos :)
[22:57] <annakamilla> agora instalei o systray
[22:57] <nuno_nunes> ele disse que tinha a versão 14.04
[22:57] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:57] <annakamilla> nunca mais
[22:58] <nuno_nunes> pk
[22:58] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: é mas desdo primeira vez que ele postou aqui mostra o repo do utopic
[22:58] <nuno_nunes> mas ele afirmou que era a versão 14.04
[22:58] <jaqent> mas tá suave, não é obrigação de ninguém adivinhar o que a pessoa precisa quando ela não se ajuda :D
[22:59] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: as vezes ele nem sabe
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> mas ele tambem nao ajudou nada
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> :|
[22:59] <jaqent> Ou fez o downgrade e não trocou os repo
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> o downgrade nao da para fazer
[22:59] <nuno_nunes> so instalação limpa
[22:59] <jaqent> então ele nem sabe :)
[23:00] <jaqent> ou ele seguiu algum tuto na web e trocou os repo
[23:01] <nuno_nunes> so pode
[23:03] <nuno_nunes> quando uma pessoa quer ajudar e eles nem escrevem nada
[23:03] <nuno_nunes> eu não posso ser bruxo :S
[23:05] <nuno_nunes> jaqent, ve isto
utopic?
[23:05] <nuno_nunes> mas ele nem respondeu
[23:06] <jaqent> como é que ele ia imaginar que isso foi pra ele?
[23:06] <nuno_nunes> pois :S
[23:06] <jaqent> nuno_nunes: de qualquer forma não estou dizendo que foi sua culpa, vc não era o único no canal, eu demorei pra falar alguma coisa tb
[23:07] <jaqent> a culpa é do lynxer10 :P
[23:07] <nuno_nunes> jaqent, pessoal destes ah muitos :S
[23:07] <nuno_nunes> não é culpa de ninguem
[23:07] <jaqent> claro que não, eu estava brincando
[23:07] <lynxer10> coehh vei
[23:07] <nuno_nunes> a culpa são das pessoas que querem ajuda e nao ajudam com os erros :|
[23:07] <lynxer10> sobrou pra ieu
[23:08] <jaqent> lynxer10: só queria te incluir na conversa
[23:08] <lynxer10> huauhuahu
[23:08] <lynxer10> to de boa cara
[23:09] <lynxer10> sei que foi de zoa
[23:09] <lynxer10> e que to me arrumando
[23:09] <lynxer10> que vou sair com a patroa
[23:09] <nuno_nunes> mas alguem esta a precisar de ajuda
[23:09] <lynxer10> ta braba que to aqui de conversa fiada
[23:09] <nuno_nunes> annakamilla, precisas de ajuda
[23:09] <jaqent> lynxer10: vai logo man, deixa a patroa esperando não :D
[23:09] <lynxer10> huahuauhauh
[23:09] <lynxer10> calma vei
[23:09] <lynxer10> ta se arrumando
[23:10] <lynxer10> leva uma vida nessa por#
[23:10] <nuno_nunes> :S
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> eu vou sair
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> fiquem bem
[23:11] <lynxer10> valeu brother
[23:11] <lynxer10> ate mais
[23:11] <lynxer10> vou vazar tb
[23:11] <lynxer10> senao sobra pra ieu
[23:11] <jaqent> noites pra vocês o/
[23:11] <lynxer10> o dever me chama
[23:11] <lynxer10> abs
[23:12] <lynxer10> fuiz
[23:12] <nuno_nunes> eu ja volto
[23:22] <annakamilla> não nuno
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.332473
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[07:43] <Kilos> morning everyone
[21:09] <userxx> geht eine hilfe auch in Deutsch hier
[21:31] <elacheche> !Deutsch
[21:31] <elacheche> Am late.. :/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.339150
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-desktop
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[11:48] <willcooke> qengho, just to let you know, my Cr. icon issues have resolved themselves
[11:48] <willcooke> no idea why, I'd rebooted etc a few times yesterday
[11:48] <willcooke> but suddenly today, it's working again
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.341147
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2015-11-14-#xubuntu-devel
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[01:58] <bluesabre> evening all
[02:00] <Unit193> Wow, howdy.
[02:58] <bluesabre> hey Unit193
[02:58] <bluesabre> hows it going?
[04:29] <Unit193> bluesabre: Not too shabby I think...
[09:29] <flocculant> TheMaster: meh - all confused about the pulse plugin now :p
[09:33] <flocculant> anyway bug 1516217 and https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12313 which I can't currently link
[09:45] <flocculant> not registered on launchpad and I don't want to break it by adding it wrong
[11:40] <bluesabre> flocculant: now registered on launchpad, https://launchpad.net/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
[11:41] <flocculant> bluesabre: cheers :)
[11:42] <flocculant> done the linking now
[11:42] <bluesabre> good good
[11:49] <flocculant> bluesabre: bit confused with parole? I thought that we *made* it work with clutter last cycle ?
[12:06] <bluesabre> flocculant: yeah, haven't taken a look yet
[12:06] <bluesabre> does it work with non-clutter? does totem work?
[12:06] <flocculant> works with non-clutter - forgot all about totem - will do that now :)
[12:06] <bluesabre> thanks
[12:09] <flocculant> bluesabre: works in totem
[12:10] <bluesabre> welp, im done
[12:10] <bluesabre> >.<
[12:10] <flocculant> I knew I should have said the repos were down ...
[12:11] <bluesabre> :D
[12:12] <flocculant> that said - no idea what totem is using - the menu's are gnome ones ...
[12:12] <bluesabre> flocculant: if you have a camera, can you install gir1.2-cheese-3.0 cheese and give mugshot's camera functionality a go? that's also using clutter
[12:13] <flocculant> have gir1 already - would that be enough?
[12:14] <flocculant> good lord - cheese apparently needs nautilus ...
[12:14] <bluesabre> you might not need cheese
[12:15] <flocculant> mugshot just crashed
[12:15] <bluesabre> was cheating to pull any other cheesey dependencies
[12:15] <bluesabre> niiiiice
[12:15] <bluesabre> will work on all that tomorrow then
[12:15] <flocculant> white box from the camera
[12:15] <bluesabre> college homecoming today, cooking breakfast now
[12:15] <bluesabre> k
[12:15] <bluesabre> something funny going on there
[12:15] <flocculant> have a good day then :)
[12:16] <bluesabre> probably more clutter breakage
[12:16] <flocculant> ok
[12:16] * bluesabre tries to use the new and "supported", blows up in his face
[12:16] <flocculant> :)
[12:17] <flocculant> bluesabre: you want me to run ubuntu-bug mugshot from xenial?
[12:18] <bluesabre> flocculant: sure, that'd be fine
[12:18] <flocculant> okey doke
[12:26] <flocculant> bug 1516237
[12:28] <flocculant> bbl
[14:57] <ra2b> hi
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-nl
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[13:06] <piet_> bij installeren op systeem met vista installatie afgebroken, dvd verwijderd en opnieuw opgestart, maar pc doet niets meer..
[13:10] <lordievader> Err, hoe heb je Ubuntu proberen te installeren?
[13:11] <piet_> via dvd, werkte goed in demo, maar bij installatie had ik alleen de keuze vista overschrijven of handmatig , daar ben ik mee begonnen... en maar weer gestopt
[13:12] <lordievader> Wat heb je precies gedaan?
[13:14] <piet_> bij handmatige installatie geprobeer een partitie aan te maken, toen kreeg ik een verzaling \dev "directories" en heb toen installatieafgebroken
[13:15] <lordievader> Je hebt je Vista partitie geresized en een nieuwe aangemaakt?
[13:16] <piet_> ik heb vooraf in vista geen partitie aangemaakt, wat ubuntu heeft gedaan is mij niet duidelijkniet bewust
[13:18] <lordievader> piet_: Start de live-usb/cd weer eens op -> open een terminal en voer 'sudo parted /dev/sda print' uit.
[13:18] <lordievader> Kopieer die output naar een http://paste.kde.org, upload je paste en geef ons de link.
[13:19] <piet_> lordiecvader dat wordt een probleem, ik werk nu op een andere pc ,mar ikheb geen twee monitoren
[13:20] <lordievader> Je hoeft alleen de link hierheen te kopieren ;)
[13:23] <piet_> lordievader bedankt tot nu toe, ik zal vanavond proberen jouw aanwijzingen op te volgen,ik heb nu helaas andere verplichtngen
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[11:57] <Scary_Guy> /c
[12:41] <Scary_Guy> okay, I need some help. windows explorer is a bloated hog and is therefore a horrible shell and file manaager. I need windows for reasons but want to reduce memory footprint. Is anyone here familiar with the "dark arts"? I'd use bblean64 but it's outdatedand buggy
[12:44] <Scary_Guy> alternatively if anyone has a badass gaming laptop they want to sell cheap I can take this thing to the range and load up a nice target wallpaper, then have some fun destroying it. It's barely useable for e-mail, and I need it to do way more
[13:17] <Scary_Guy> bbl, question still stands if anyone has any advice, thx
[15:08] <cmaloney> Good morning
[15:09] <cmaloney> I haven't played much with the Windows "Dark Arts"
[15:09] <cmaloney> (I know he's offline but not sure if reading online archives)
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2015-11-14-#ubuntu-pt
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[21:59] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-se
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[09:59] <sysop-rick> Hej! har ett litet dilemma och vet att det inte riktigt berör ubuntu, men ställer frågan iallafall och kanske får man någon riktlinje.
[10:00] <Barre> det är bara att fråga på sysop-rick, förhoppningsvis svarar nån.
[10:01] <sysop-rick> Jag har en disk, i min Freenas maskin som håller på att rasa, idag har jag köpt en WD3TB-Red och tänkt ersätta min trasiga disk med denna härliga Nas utformade disk. Nu till frågeställningen, är den enklaste/mest effektiva metoden att stänga ner min nas maskin, plocka ut denna trasiga 2.5tum Seagate, mounta den med något ZFS liknande stöd på min Macbook använda rsync för att skicka över all information på denna till min nya importerade/ZF
[10:02] <sysop-rick> tänkte använda rsync för att skicka?
[10:04] <sysop-rick> Barre: vad tror du om det? Är det det mest effektiva och enklaste jag kan göra?
[10:07] <Barre> sysop-rick: det vet jag inte, jobbar inte med zfs.
[10:08] <sysop-rick> Barre: np tack iaf
[10:15] <Spookan> sysop-rick: Mounta den och gör en dmg av den disken?
[10:17] <Spookan> Men jag vet inte hur stödet är med zfs i mac os..
[10:18] * Barre kan ju tycka att zfs är ett så pass nytt FS att det borde gå att addera den nya disken till poolen och "ejecta" den gamla för att låta filsystemet genomföra migreringen, men som sagt. jag jobbar inte med zfs :)
[10:28] <Hund> Jag körde med Rsync när jag bytte ut min lagringshårddisk nu i höstas.
[10:28] <Hund> sysop-rick: ^
[10:48] <sysop-rick> Hund: ok nice
[10:48] <sysop-rick> Hund: mountade du då den trasiga/defekta disken manuellt från t.ex Ubuntu eller en laptop/PC vid sidan av?
[10:48] <Hund> Jag lät den sitta kvar i datorn bara.
[10:49] <sysop-rick> på tal om ingenting.. freenas.com har DNS problem
[10:49] <Hund> Jag har inga nymodigheter som en NAS. :p
[10:49] <sysop-rick> ville uppdatera freenas systemet men då får jag göra det vid senare tillfälle nu konfa den nya disken
[10:50] <Hund> :)
[10:56] <sysop-rick> minns fasen inte hur jag satt upp i det här fallet ada3 som en vanlig ZFS formaterad disk "stripe" som det kallas
[10:58] <Hund> Vad är bra med ZFS då?
[10:59] <Hund> Jag har verkligen ingen koll på filsystem.
[10:59] <Hund> Jag har bara kört med Ext.
[10:59] <sysop-rick> positiva med ZFS är komprimeringen
[11:00] <sysop-rick> den komprimerar din information till det yttersta, givetvis tar detta på mängden ram etc men i långa loppet om man vill gardera sig och ha en egen storage lösning så är det helt klart vettigt
[11:01] <sysop-rick> sen kan man i avancerade fall, använda RAID / RAID-Z men det är något helt annat och i mitt fall overkill,
[11:02] <Hund> Komprimering är inte intressant för min del. Hårddiskar är billiga och jag har inte så mycket att lagra.
[11:03] <sysop-rick> :-)
[11:03] <sysop-rick> på tal om diskar har jag ett par över om du vill köpa för billig peng
[11:06] <Hund> Haha
[11:06] <Hund> Det är lugnt.
[11:07] <Hund> Jag har flera som samlar damm jag med.
[11:11] <sysop-rick> :)
[11:12] <Hund> Däremot behöver jag byta ut mina systemdiskar härnäst.
[11:12] <Hund> Dom är 4-5 år gammal nu.
[11:12] <Hund> Men då är det bara SSD som gäller.
[11:20] <andol> Att ZFS har komprimering är väl iofs positivt, men känns ändå som en utav de mindre fördelarna.
[11:20] <Hund> :)
[11:20] <andol> Att ZFS är checksummat är trevligt.
[11:20] <Hund> Ah
[11:20] <Amoz> Hund, sysop-rick, den främsta fördelen med filsystem så som ZFS och btrfs är ju inte "komprimeringen" oftast, utan inbyggt stöd för olika former av mjukvaru-RAID eller annan form av redundans, deduplicering, inbyggt stöd för dataintegritet (checksummor) osv osv
[11:21] <andol> What Amoz just said :)
[11:21] <Amoz> du va först =P
[11:21] <Hund> Det låter ju mer säljande.
[11:21] <Hund> Jag har funderat på RAID.
[11:21] <Amoz> Hund, om du inte kikat på btrfs än så borde du göra det, även om det fortfarande är en del buggar.
[11:22] <andol> Även trevligt att ZFS och btfs är COW-baserade, och därmed tillåter billiga snapshots utav filsystemen.
[11:22] <Hund> Jag spanade in det för några år sedan. Men jag har aldrig vågat testa det. :P
[11:22] <Amoz> t.ex så kan du ha en pool av diskar för ett enda FS, å sen köra subvolymer (en atomisk enhet för t.ex. snapshots) och sen skicka över enbart diffen av snapshots till ett annat FS för lagring/backup
[11:22] <Amoz> eller för migrering
[11:23] <Hund> Fräsigt.
[11:24] <Hund> :D
[11:27] <Amoz> för min del är fördelen inbyggda volymhanteringen, dvs att jag kan skapa ett FS av flera olika stora diskar och sen köra t.ex. RAID1 över dessa. Mycket flexibelt
[11:35] <Hund> Ah
[11:35] <Hund> Se där.
[11:35] <sysop-rick> Amoz: andol mycket bra förklarat :)
[11:35] <sysop-rick> pedagogiskt också hehe
[11:35] <Hund> Man slutar aldrig förvånas över vad dom hittar på.
[11:36] <sysop-rick> Jag gillar alternativ och flexibilitet
[11:37] <Hund> Jag gillar mina kvinnor alternativ och flexibel.
[11:52] <Barre> andol: mm.. men vi kan ju disskutera om CoW är bättre eller sämre än RoW tills båda sätten är omsprunget av någon ny arkitektur :)
[11:53] * Barre vill bara understryka att han föredrar CoW alla dagar i veckan, och två gånger på söndagen, för andol
[12:23] <delhage> RoW?
[13:35] <sysop-rick> Hund: ok ny disk uppsatt och formaterad med ZFS
[13:35] <sysop-rick> nu till stora problemet, hur fasen mountar jag denna "defekta" disk i en s.k docking station över usb anslutning
[13:36] <sysop-rick> så fort jag pluggar i den säger macen "Could not read filesystem" varpå jag har 3 val, cancel, format eller ignore. verkar som att jag behöver någon/några zfs libbar för att utföra detta.
[13:37] <Hund> Sist jag använde en Mac hade den svartvit skärm. Så förvänta dig ingen support från mig här. :D
[13:39] <sysop-rick> hmm, ska se om jag kan göra ngn annan approach för detta
[13:39] <Hund> :)
[14:09] <MarkusDB1> Hejsan. Om man vill ha en workstation med riktigt äckligt mycket ram. Vilken plattform ska man satsa på så det blir bra valuta för pengarna.
[14:09] <MarkusDB1> beg eller nytt spelar ingen roll.
[14:10] <MarkusDB1> behöver en massa ram helt enkelt.
[14:10] <MarkusDB1> någorlunda vassa cpuer vore najs med.
[14:10] <MarkusDB1> Behöver 128GB eller mer helst.
[14:15] <Hund> MarkusDB1: https://www.komplett.se/product/827878/datorutrustning/processor/intel-xeon-e5-2687w-v3-socket-lga2011-3
[14:17] <MarkusDB1> mja, behöver mest ram. Sen är den där cpun ganska dyr i förhållande till prestanda eller hur?
[14:17] <Hund> Finns passande moderkort med stöd för dubbla processorer och 128GB.
[14:17] <MarkusDB1> men E5 verkar bra.
[14:17] <MarkusDB1> kommer skylake till den socketen?
[14:18] <Hund> Jag har dålig koll på processorer nu för tiden.
[14:18] <MarkusDB1> jag med, därav mina frågor
[14:19] <Hund> Det kommer ju nya modeller varje kvart. :)
[14:19] <Hund> Det handlar väl mer om budget än något annat.
[14:19] <MarkusDB1> mjo
[14:20] <MarkusDB1> ibland verkar det billigare att köpa en drös lite lägre specade maskiner också
[14:20] <MarkusDB1> behöver man just en workstation så är ju synergy najs
[14:20] <MarkusDB1> kanske ska köpa 2st 6700k istället, sen 64gb till varje.
[14:22] <Hund> Vad ska du ha dom till?
[14:22] <Hund> Kolla på 4k Flash eller?
[14:24] <Barre> delhage: Redirect on Write
[14:26] <MarkusDB1> Hund: webbutveckling.
[14:26] <MarkusDB1> Hund: jag kör en löjlig mängd virtuella maskiner
[14:26] <Hund> Okej. :)
[14:33] <delhage> Barre: lite latency :)
[14:34] <delhage> Barre: DoW då? Delete on Write ;)
[15:01] <Barre> delhage: hahah...
[15:03] <Barre> delhage: i CoW så kopieras föändringar ut från source LUN ut till en "snapshot pool" innan skrivningarna görs på source. Detta medför att source LUN är oförändrad när man snappar, men det kan ge sämre prestanda när man gör ett snapshot, speciellt om man gör många snaphost mot en och samma source LUN.
[15:05] <Barre> delhage: i RoW så kopierar man inte ut nått när source LUN skriver, istället allokeras ett ledigt block när skrivningarna görs och orginal blocket hamnar i "snapshot pool". Med andra ord så föändras source LUN när du har snapshot och riskerar att bli fragmenterad vid många snapshots, men det är ingen direkt latancy penalty vid skrivningar.
[15:07] <Barre> delhage: en annan sak man måste fråga sig, hur hanterar systemet en skrivning om snapshot-pool är full? I CoW så "failar" snapshotten, kanske till och med så att snapshot försvinner men orginalvolymen/produktionsvolymen fungerar som den skall. i RoW så finns skräckexempel implementationer där produktionsvolymen slutar att fungera för att snapshot-poolen är full(!?!!)
[15:18] <andol> Ähh, det ska göra ont att göra fel :)
[15:32] <Barre> kanske använda /dev/null som Redirect area för din supersnabba RoW-implementation ;)
[18:42] <larsemil> tipsa mig om prisvärd surfplatta till mormor. minst 8.9" och android >= 5.0
[18:51] <Hund> Budget?
[18:51] <larsemil> nä. prisvärd.
[18:51] <larsemil> är den världens bästa är det okej om den kostar lite
[18:51] <larsemil> om den inte är det så ska den vara billigare
[18:51] <larsemil> nexus 9 är ett sånt där mellanexempel
[18:52] <Hund> Jag skulle precis rekomendera Nexus 9. :P
[18:53] <Hund> Annars finns ju Sony Z4.
[18:53] <Hund> 10,1"
[18:53] <Hund> Min mamma har en.. Z2?
[18:53] <Hund> Jag gillar den.
[18:53] <larsemil> ja. men Z4 kändes som att den kostade lite för mycket
[18:53] <Hund> 4500 kr?
[18:53] <Hund> Det är 200 kr mer än Nexus 9. :P
[18:54] <larsemil> ah kollade på några samsungplattor som kostade runt 2500-3000
[18:54] <Hund> Okej. :)
[18:54] <Hund> Samsung.
[18:54] * Hund ryser
[18:54] <larsemil> ja jag med
[18:54] <Hund> :D
[18:54] <Hund> Men det är ju inte jag som ska ha den, det är din mormor.
[18:55] <Hund> Samsung är ju extremt poppis bland "Svenssons".
[18:57] <larsemil> mmm
[18:57] <larsemil> men en nexus kan jag utantill
[18:57] <Hund> Nexus tenderar ju att hålla bättre i längden.
[18:58] <Hund> Medan tex en Samsung kanske är mer flashig för stunden.
[18:58] <larsemil> och ene nexus får ju de nyare programvarorna
[18:58] <Hund> Mjo. :)
[19:10] <senate> köp en surface 4 pro till henne ;)
[19:13] <marsupapu> senate: Det borde vara prisvärd ;)
[19:13] <senate> varför är ni så emot samsung? haft en tab4 ett bra tag nu och den funkar utmärkt
[19:13] <senate> dock använder jag den inte så jätteofta. mest när jag reser
[19:14] <senate> marsupapu: självklart, det är ju microsoft :)
[19:14] <Hund> Jag personligen ogillar jag Samsung för att dom skickar med extremt mycket 'skräp'.
[19:14] <senate> köpte mig faktiskt en surface 3 förra veckan :D lite impulsgrej och jag fick bra pris.. men inte hunnit slänga in linux på den än
[19:14] <senate> Hund: förinstallerade appar?
[19:15] <senate> det är ju väldigt lätt åtgärdat isf
[19:15] <senate> men prestandan är det inget fel på. bra skärmar, snabba, bra batteritid
[19:16] <Hund> Mjo, det är möjligt.
[19:17] <senate> hade en tab1 tidigare men den var jag tvungen att sälja för den var så långsam så jag hade slått sönder den annar
[19:17] <senate> men med tab4 är jag mycket nöjd
[19:19] <Hund> :)
[19:22] <senate> det lär larsemiläs mormor också bli :)
[19:22] <Hund> Det tror jag med. :D
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[00:45] <ianorlin> wow I could finally get back on
[00:54] <DonkeyHotei> ?
[00:54] <ianorlin> I had trouble connecting to freenode earlier
[00:57] <DonkeyHotei> as did i, long delay
[00:57] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2015-11-29 03:38:55 PM PST] * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (2a00:1a28:1100:11::42) port 6697...
[00:57] <DonkeyHotei> [Sun 2015-11-29 03:43:12 PM PST] * * Certification info:
[02:03] <ianorlin> hmm only 2 people have been nominated
[02:17] <ianorlin> I might be a littel late but am really quite hungry
[02:58] <pleia2> freenode has been subject to ddos attacks throughout the us holiday, so lots of netsplits and connection woes
[02:59] <nhaines> Yeah, it's been a shame.
[03:00] <nhaines> Hopefully everything stays stable for our meeting. Which is now!
[03:00] <nhaines> #startmeeting
[03:00] <nhaines> !startmeeting
[03:00] <nhaines> Hm.
[03:00] <EureCA> Factoid startmeeting not found
[03:00] <nhaines> Shush, you.
[03:00] <nhaines> Okay, manual logs this time around! :)
[03:00] <nhaines> #startmeeting
[03:01] <nhaines> Welcome to the penultimate Ubuntu California LoCo meeting this year!
[03:01] <nhaines> This meeting's agenda can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15November29
[03:01] <nhaines> Can we get a show of hands for attendance?
[03:02] <darkwizardjack> Newbie here!
[03:03] <nhaines> darkwizardjack: welcome!
[03:03] <darkwizardjack> TY
[03:05] <nhaines> Hmm, usually the attendance thing is more popular. :)
[03:05] <nhaines> Okay, so first up on the agenda...
[03:05] <nhaines> #topic Upcoming Events.
[03:05] <nhaines> pleia2: Ubuntu Hour San Francisco is back again, right?
[03:06] <pleia2> o/
[03:06] <pleia2> yes, we have one coming up the 2nd wednesday in december
[03:06] <pleia2> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/3261-ubuntu-hour-san-francisco/
[03:06] <nhaines> That's the 9th. Sounds like fun!
[03:07] <pleia2> and one coming up on our next meeting day (earlier in the day) in berkeley on the 13th
[03:07] <pleia2> #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2997-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/
[03:08] <nhaines> Oh, that'll be nice. I hope the weather is pleasant for both of them!
[03:08] <pleia2> they're both indoors anyway ;)
[03:09] <nhaines> My favorite way to enjoy rain *is* through a window. :)
[03:09] <nhaines> But good weather makes the trip less dreary anyway.
[03:09] * pleia2 nods
[03:09] <nhaines> Glad UH is back. Thank sfor that, pleia2. :)
[03:09] <nhaines> #topic Announcements
[03:10] <nhaines> Are there any general announcements before we move on to tonight's agenda items?
[03:10] <pleia2> I don't have anything
[03:11] <nhaines> Me either. This meeting might be a victim of the Freenode DDOS attacks, unfortunately.
[03:11] <nhaines> Okay, we can always come back to that later.
[03:11] <nhaines> #topic We have a meetup group now, what should we do with it?
[03:11] <nhaines> So we have a Meetup group now! http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-California/
[03:12] <pleia2> right, so we're one of the trial teams for the ubuntu community funds supported meetup groups
[03:12] <pleia2> but we also have the loco team portal, which we've always used and have events and RSVPs on
[03:12] <nhaines> pleia2: actually, I believe Canonical is funding this without the community funds. :)
[03:12] <pleia2> nhaines: oh, that's nice :)
[03:13] <pleia2> admittedly, the loco team portal is not used much, some people have trouble logging in, not much development is happening...
[03:13] <nhaines> pleia2: yeah, they didn't want it to be dependant on donation amounts. :)
[03:13] <pleia2> that's good
[03:13] <pleia2> still, the loco team portal is open source and I like how clean and non-spammy it is
[03:14] <nhaines> So one of the alleged benefits of a Meetup group is that we can use it for external outreach to non-Ubuntu community members. Which is nice because that's part of our mandate as a LoCo team.
[03:14] <pleia2> yeah, and already without much mentioning of it, we have 21 members
[03:14] <pleia2> some of whom I recognize from other meetups I go to, not from ubuntu anything
[03:14] <nhaines> And we already have 21 new users--right. :) Only 3 or 4 of which are Ubuntu people.
[03:15] <nhaines> So that's a promising start!
[03:15] <pleia2> I'm inclined to duplicate the events I run across both things
[03:15] <pleia2> it's messy, but eh
[03:15] <nhaines> I think that's a good idea for now. The plan is to extend the LoCo directory so that creating the event there duplicates it to Meetup.com automatically.
[03:16] <ianorlin> wow finally got here
[03:16] <pleia2> nhaines: ah, that'd be nice
[03:16] <nhaines> But that's work and the loco directory is mostly in maintenance mode. But if we can show that Meetup is popular, that will probably spur action in that regard.
[03:16] <nhaines> So for now we're using it for Ubucon Summit registration.
[03:17] <pleia2> I'll add the SF ubuntu hour
[03:17] <nhaines> Great!
[03:18] <nhaines> I hope to see more public events this next year, and I think Meetup.com will really help get the word out.
[03:18] <ianorlin> yes it will and maybe get more people that might offer places
[03:19] <nhaines> So I think we're off to a small but very promising start.
[03:19] <nhaines> Let's try to get in-person events listed there as we plan them out.
[03:19] <nhaines> Any other comments on Meetup.com?
[03:21] <pleia2> I think that's it really
[03:21] <nhaines> #topic Ubuntu California Leadership nominations
[03:21] <nhaines> The call for nominations is still open! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership/2015
[03:22] <nhaines> For another week, actually.
[03:22] <nhaines> Until December 5th, which is now reflected on the wiki page.
[03:23] <nhaines> Leadership is fairly simple, because all LoCo members in Ubuntu California are basically empowered to work on anything they like.
[03:23] <pleia2> so we just need one more brave soul to put their name forward to get the minimum
[03:23] <nhaines> So it's more administrative. Running the meetings, updating the wiki, sending out email notifications, and so forth.
[03:23] <nhaines> Yup, it would be nice to have a real election.
[03:24] <ianorlin> hmm right no don't we have nhaines and I nominated so hopefully at least one or two people from bay area
[03:24] <ianorlin> or farther north asa that is a bit of a commute for say a release party
[03:25] <nhaines> Yes, it'd be nice to have the representation. Although it's mainly symbolic.
[03:26] <nhaines> So the day after the nomination period closes, we'll start the election.
[03:26] <nhaines> Anyone who is a member of http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/ is eligible to vote.
[03:28] <nhaines> The election will end on December 12th, and then we'll announce the results at the December 13th meeting before we break for the rest of the year.
[03:29] <nhaines> That's about all I have on that topic.
[03:29] <pleia2> we'll also need someone to volunteer who is not running to run the election, if there is one
[03:30] <nhaines> Yes, that would be helpful!
[03:30] <nhaines> So if you're interested, please volunteer on the mailing list.
[03:30] <pleia2> but I guess we'll cross that bridge if we get to it :)
[03:30] <nhaines> Yup. :)
[03:32] <ianorlin> How many meetings in new year before scale?
[03:32] <nhaines> Just one.
[03:32] <ianorlin> ah ok
[03:32] <pleia2> unfortunately it's likely much too late to ask my employer for funding for the event
[03:33] <pleia2> I really needed that info 2 months ago
[03:33] <pleia2> so hopefully whatever funding is needed has come together
[03:34] <nhaines> Yes, Canonical's still working on it.
[03:35] <nhaines> The sponsorship brochure is finished but I wasn't able to get the address. It's on the Ubucon site.
[03:35] <nhaines> Which is http://ubucon.org/ and is looking great. It should get fully filled in over the next week.
[03:36] <pleia2> hopefully they'll be able to get it together earlier next year
[03:37] <pleia2> can't ask for funding less than 8 weeks before an event, particularly with the holidays in the way
[03:37] <nhaines> I think so. The new venue made it difficult to get funding information together.
[03:37] * pleia2 nods
[03:37] <nhaines> But all the planning is coming together well. We'll need booth volunteers soon!
[03:38] <pleia2> great
[03:38] <nhaines> Anyone interested can sign up here ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale14x
[03:39] <nhaines> And that's easy too. We'll need booth volunteers who can greet SCALE attendees and answer simple questions about Ubuntu.
[03:40] <nhaines> We'll also have phones and IoT devices running snappy Ubuntu Core to demonstrate. So it's worth volunteering, and you'll get to be the first to experience those things hands on.
[03:40] <nhaines> Okay, about time to wrap everything up for tonight, I think.
[03:41] <nhaines> #topic Other business
[03:41] <nhaines> Any other business or comments before we wrap up tonight?
[03:41] <pleia2> I'm all set
[03:41] <pleia2> thanks for charing :)
[03:42] <nhaines> Thanks. :)
[03:42] * nhaines assumes pleia2 meant chairing and not charring.
[03:42] <nhaines> I already cooked earlier. ; )
[03:42] <nhaines> Okay, thanks to everyone for coming tonight!
[03:43] <nhaines> #endmeeting
[03:44] <pleia2> charring :d
[03:44] <pleia2> I woke up on the other coast, it's been a long day :)
[03:46] <nhaines> darkwizardjack: glad you could join us tonight! How do you use Ubuntu?
[03:47] <pleia2> at least they use ipv6 :)
[03:52] <nhaines> Haha, yes!
[04:00] <pleia2> the "location" bit about the meetup group may make things tricky
[04:01] <pleia2> it's listed as being located in los angeles, so it may not get out to the folks in SF for our events up here
[04:01] <pleia2> I don't know how to make that better though :\
[04:01] <nhaines> Yeah. I'm assured that the events themselves *should* still show up locally.
[04:02] <pleia2> ok :)
[04:04] <pleia2> nhaines: now that we sort of agreed to use it for now, want to formally announce the group to the team in an email?
[04:04] <pleia2> it was mentioned during the meeting email, but people would have to really read that :)
[04:05] <nhaines> pleia2: oh yeah, that's a good idea!
[04:06] <pleia2> I can put it on social media too
[04:17] * pleia2 seeks dinner
[04:23] <nhaines> I can't help but wonder how I can get no phone calls all day and then as soon as there's a meeting I get like 3 phone calls all around it. :)
[04:47] <nhaines> Woo, post-meeting stuff done! \o/
[05:09] <nhaines> We got our first mention from the SCALE website. :) http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/14x/ubucon-summit
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