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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-kernel
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[01:26] <apb1963> QNativeImage: Unable to attach to shared memory segment.
[01:27] <ohsix> nice try
[01:27] <apb1963> I get this error using Okular. It shows a problem with the screen... essentially you can't see portions of the page. However, the problem is not limited to Okular...
[01:28] <apb1963> Not sure where to from here, but I figured you guys would be a good starting point.
[01:28] <apb1963> ^go
[01:30] <apb1963> There are numerous errors produced by X after that error, but I get the feeling the X errs are a side effect of not having the mem segment.
[01:31] <apb1963> Well, the cause being the missing segment rather than a side effect... but you know what I mean.
[01:32] <apb1963> Errors like this:
[01:33] <apb1963> X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
[01:33] <apb1963> Major opcode: 56 (X_ChangeGC)
[01:33] <apb1963> Resource id: 0x0
[01:34] <apb1963> At this point, even right clicking and trying to copy or paste is a chore, because the menu is obscured or blank, however you want to picture it.
[02:03] <apb1963> Oh and... the rightclicking problem is system wide... not limited to any program. Once it starts, I have to reboot to fix it. I've rebooted twice now and it's starting to become a little more frequent, and is starting to become a major issue.
[02:05] <apb1963> If anyone wants to use something like teamviewer or whatever to see it in action, I'm open to that.
[02:06] <apb1963> 3.13.0-68-generic #111-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 6 18:17:06 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:07] <apb1963> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[02:11] <ohsix> you're using kde though? what is using the most memory in xrestop
[02:20] <apb1963> bash: xrestop: command not found
[02:20] <apb1963> ohsix: ^^
[02:22] <apb1963> E: Unable to locate package xrestop
[02:41] <apb1963> ohsix: kwin followed by libreoffice/writer and then firefox
[03:14] <apb1963> ohsix: #kde-devel helped me track it down. java memory leak. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=799587 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)
[03:14] <apb1963> Any idea when it will make it into ubuntu 14.04 ?
[03:15] <apb1963> or will it be 14.05 at that point? :)
[03:16] <apb1963> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-7/+bug/1512760
[03:16] <ohsix> i like the comments on the bug, kde/plasma isn't very usable without bugs ;D
[03:16] <apb1963> haha
[03:22] <apb1963> ohsix: by the way... PovAddict in #kde-devel was the person that tracked it down.... and then found the bug had already been reported. Just in case you want to talk to him about it.
[13:30] <marga> infinity, 3.13.0-68 was released to trusty-updates on Nov 10th, but the installer has had no updates since Nov. 4th. I'm getting an install failure because of this (mismatch between running kernel and installed kernel, when doing update-initramfs after dkms installation). Is there a bug about this?
[13:34] <apw> marga, not sure there is a bug about it, no. i think he will be aware now tho
[13:35] <marga> now that I mentioned it? Or already before that?
[13:37] <apw> well it got mentioned on #u-d as well, so i suspect he'll get the message, and indeed i'll be chatting to him about it too as i got highlighted about it on #u-d
[13:37] <marga> ah, ok.
[13:37] <marga> What's the normal process for updating the installer when a new kernel comes around?
[13:44] <apw> in part i am unsure, which is why i am going to be talking about it
[15:39] <cmagina> The stable release pull for the current trusty proposed kernel carries a patch that breaks arm64. The issue was seen on wily as well and was worked around by disabling the new config option added by the patch. I added a comment to the stable release bug, bug #1514853
[15:39] <ubot5`> bug 1514853 in linux (Ubuntu Trusty) "Trusty update to 3.13.11-ckt29 stable release" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514853
[15:53] <tseliot> apw: I can't reproduce the failure with bcmwl
[15:53] <tseliot> apw: and linux 4.3
[15:54] <apw> tseliot, hrm
[15:54] <apw> tseliot, i386 right ?
[15:56] <apw> tseliot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13299698/ is what ADT gets
[15:59] <tseliot> apw: that should help. Thanks
[16:34] <dsmythies> Just passing along something: I observe that http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4-rc1-wily/ is having the same problem as I was. Kernel 4.4-rc1 would not compile until I applied this patch: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/6/987
[16:39] <apw> dsmythies, yep, those are raw builds done from the tip of the tree, if the tree is broken they don't build
[17:04] <henrix> cmagina: hi! re. bug #1502946 (CONFIG_ARM64_ERRATUM_843419), have you actually tried to boot that trusty kernel and reproduced that bug?
[17:04] <ubot5`> bug 1502946 in linux (Ubuntu Wily) "kernel crash on m400 arm64 server cartridge" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502946
[17:05] <henrix> cmagina: because wily actually contains CONFIG_ARM64_ERRATUM_843419=y (the same as trusty)
[17:05] <cmagina> henrix: yes, i have a log, just need to attach it
[17:05] <henrix> cmagina: no need, i just wanted to understand exactly what i should do because trusty seems to have the same config
[17:07] <cmagina> henrix: really? hmm...this is the bug where it was supposedly set to 'n' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1502946
[17:07] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1502946 in linux (Ubuntu Wily) "kernel crash on m400 arm64 server cartridge" [Critical,Fix released]
[17:07] <cmagina> [Config] CONFIG_ARM64_ERRATUM_843419=n
[17:08] <cmagina> 4.2.0-16.19) wily
[17:08] <henrix> cmagina: right, but the wily kernel in -proposed seems to be closing that bug by reverting that patch
[17:08] <cmagina> henrix: maybe dannf's upstream fix was accepted and pulled into wily after 16.19
[17:09] <henrix> cmagina: ah, wily also contains this: b6dd8e0719c0 ("arm64: errata: use KBUILD_CFLAGS_MODULE for erratum #843419"
[17:09] <cmagina> henrix: yeah, that's dannf's fix
[17:10] <henrix> cmagina: ok, cool. so... i guess we need that in trusty as well
[17:10] <cmagina> henrix: yeah, that would be perfect
[17:10] <henrix> cmagina: and in lts-utopic too. (we're building arm64 in utopic, right?)
[17:11] <cmagina> henrix: yes
[17:11] <henrix> cmagina: ok, thanks
[17:11] <cmagina> henrix: i hadn't gotten to check the other releases yet. are we still supporting utopic? thought it ended and we're now on vivid
[17:12] <henrix> cmagina: right, utopic has EOL'ed, but we're still doing lts-utopic for a couple more cycles
[17:12] <cmagina> henrix: ah, ok
[17:13] <henrix> cmagina: grr... looks like we have the same thing on vivid.
[17:14] <cmagina> henrix: so, everything up to wily then. arm64 seems prone to these kinds of regressions where a stable release patch breaks it, but there is already a fix, just not in that stable release
[17:15] <henrix> cmagina: correct. i'll start working on that. thanks for reporting.
[17:16] <henrix> cmagina: btw, do you have another bug i could you for SRU'ing this?
[17:16] <henrix> s/you/use
[17:16] <cmagina> henrix: np, thanks for fixing. yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1516682
[17:16] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1516682 in linux (Ubuntu) "a trusty stable release patch breaks module loading on arm64" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[17:17] <henrix> cmagina: awesome, thanks!
[17:18] <cmagina> henrix: welcome :)
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-tr
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[07:29] <ogny> gunaydin
[08:14] <Kartagis> gunaydin bebek
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu+1
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[09:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hey all
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2015-11-16-#maas
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[08:51] <nitin_> I have an issue!!
[08:55] <nitin_> After uploading CentOS images, the cluster controller is not syncing automatically
[08:55] <nitin_> How to start syncing manually?
[09:04] <dimitern> nitin_, assuming you still use maas 1.7, have you tried following this guide: http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs1.7/os-support.html#installing-maas-images ?
[09:32] <nitin_> dimitern, yes i have uploaded CentOS images using the commands given in the guide: http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs1.7/os-support.html#installing-maas-images
[09:36] <dimitern> nitin_, and your cluster shows "out-of-sync" ?
[09:36] <nitin_> yes
[09:36] <nitin_> actually, the CentOS images supported by MAAS are syncing successfully
[09:37] <nitin_> but, my own custom image of CentOS is not able to sync
[09:38] <nitin_> perhaps its large size of around 1.4 GB might be causing the problem
[09:40] <dimitern> nitin_, I doubt the size is a problem
[09:40] <dimitern> nitin_, what do you mean your custom image?
[09:41] <dimitern> nitin_, if you uploaded (a supported by maas - look in the docs about the maas-image-builder) custom image what's there to sync?
[09:42] <dimitern> nitin_, try maas <profile> boot-images import ?
[09:45] <nitin_> i want to upload a CentOS 6.3 image with certain packages & applications
[09:46] <dimitern> nitin_, I haven't tried what you're trying to do, sorry :/
[09:46] <nitin_> Do I need to build the image using MAAS Image Builder
[09:47] <dimitern> nitin_, but some of the guys from the maas team should be able to help you << blake_r, roaksoax, mpontillo,
[09:47] <nitin_> ok..thanks dimitern!!
[12:44] <mup> Bug #1515276 changed: Error creating a bond <MAAS:New for andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515276>
[17:33] <mup> Bug #1516722 opened: MAAS 1.9 fails install <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516722>
[19:58] <los> Had MaaS working....borked images ... how? Gak
[19:58] <los> (Checked DNS, IP, its all working...I swear this was working on Fri.)
[20:40] <los> Got my MaaS up and going, but, the Images tab is stuck in "Apply Changes". No good clues in log.
[21:12] <roaksoax> los: what do you mean stuck in apply changes ?
[21:31] <los> I click the Apply changes button, and I see in the log there's traffic out com.ubuntu.maas:v2 API etc....and then after "Region import" or sometimes skipping that POOF back to Apply Changes (with the versions/archs showing)
[21:32] <los> My nodes "are Ready" etc.
[21:45] <los> Its weird, I see the region controller hit ubuntu's site to check versions...I wonder.
[22:07] <mup> Bug #1467995 changed: Simultaneous Trusty deployments to VMs with SATA virtual disks on same physical drive fail sometimes - drops to Grub rescue shell <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1467995>
[22:10] <mup> Bug #1467995 opened: Simultaneous Trusty deployments to VMs with SATA virtual disks on same physical drive fail sometimes - drops to Grub rescue shell <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1467995>
[22:13] <mup> Bug #1467995 changed: Simultaneous Trusty deployments to VMs with SATA virtual disks on same physical drive fail sometimes - drops to Grub rescue shell <oil> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1467995>
[22:35] <los> roaksoax: found your site, :) ....still pondering logs.
[22:37] <roaksoax> los: so what about if you rm -rf /var/lib/maas/boot-resources/ and restart he import ?
[22:38] <los> roaksoax: Aha! I did that and sure enough a different snapshot started coming down...its appearing to be "complete" but since I zapped my other one I can't compare :0
[22:38] <los> (your site is the ONLY place I've [just] found that has the "lifecycle" of En->Com->Ready, argh!)
[22:40] <los> I see it talking to ubuntu about objects: 2015-11-16 16:39:57 [sstreams] INFO: com.ubuntu.maas:v2:download/com.ubuntu.maas:v2:boot:14.04:amd64:hwe-v: to_add=[u'20150727'] to_remove=[]
[22:41] <los> Followed by GET's: 2015-11-16 16:40:17 [-] 127.0.0.1 - - [16/Nov/2015:22:40:17 +0000] "GET /MAAS/images-stream/ubuntu/amd64/hwe-v/trusty/20150727/root-image.gz
[22:41] <los> iptraf shows bytes coming down...
[22:41] <los> Oh! I am on Step 2/2, that's new, haven't change anything...! Weird!
[22:42] <los> (hasn't gotten past step 1/2 all day)
[22:43] <roaksoax> los: yeah weird, something must have borkjed and maas thought it had the images
[22:44] <los> roaksoax: Third time I've blown them away. Dang. Thanks for the magical juju. Couldn't find any system status page for centralized maas (ubuntu) pages
[22:48] <los> roaksoax: LOL: Doomed: I celebrated too early....it took longer but got back to the same place. Interestign!
[22:50] <roaksoax> los: do you have access to the ubuntu archive ?
[22:52] <mup> Bug #1516815 opened: MAAS creates DNS record against Alias when it is part of the PXE interface <MAAS:New> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516815>
[22:53] <los> roaksoax: I don't think so--I haven't signed up for it, if its not public access etc.
[22:53] <roaksoax> los: it is public access
[22:53] <roaksoax> los: are you agaisnt a proxy ?
[22:53] <roaksoax> behind*
[22:53] <los> roaksoax: I'll look it up--I've seen you (noproxy) guys use it in the videos
[22:54] <los> roaksoax: (Get latest from dev trunk?)
[22:55] <roaksoax> los: what version are you using?
[22:55] <mup> Bug #1516815 changed: MAAS creates DNS record against Alias when it is part of the PXE interface <MAAS:New> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516815>
[22:56] <los> roaksoax: 1.8.3+bzr4053
[22:57] <roaksoax> los: you wanna try 1.9.0rc1 ? ppa:maas/next
[22:57] <los> roaksoax: Sure. I'm also having trouble getting a 2nd Cluster Controller to talk to the existing RegCntrl. This is researchy, for the sake of JuJu :)
[22:59] <los> roaksoax: can you install just a ClusCntrl by itself? The RegCntrl web berzerk when I changed the ClusCntrl2's shared secret to the RegCntrl1's secret (db/flatfile mismatch from googling)
[22:59] <roaksoax> los: you can try to dpkg-resource maas-cluster-controller and paste the shared secret for the cluster to connect
[23:00] <los> roaksoax: 1) add archive 2) update/upgrade?
[23:00] <roaksoax> los: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:maas/next && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:01] <los> roaksoax: Yeah, the Regional was going bonkers hitting the log 1/sec. Thx!
[23:01] <mup> Bug #1516815 opened: MAAS creates DNS record against Alias when it is part of the PXE interface <MAAS:New> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516815>
[23:02] <los> roaksoax: Yeah, this on 15.10 (latest) also btw
[23:04] <mup> Bug #1516815 changed: MAAS creates DNS record against Alias when it is part of the PXE interface <MAAS:Incomplete> <MAAS 1.9:Incomplete> <MAAS trunk:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516815>
[23:07] <mup> Bug #1516815 opened: MAAS creates DNS record against Alias when it is part of the PXE interface <MAAS:New> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516815>
[23:08] <los> roaksoax: "Dependency problems prevent..." maybe I should nail the maas pkgs out?
[23:10] <los> roaksoax: Weird, did it on two hosts and only one error'd
[23:12] <los> roaksoax: Looks like django db migration problem:
[23:12] <los> django.db.utils.ProgrammingError: column maasserver_vlan.mtu does not exist LINE 1: ...erver_vlan"."vid", "maasserver_vlan"."fabric_id", "maasserve...
[23:13] <los> dpkg: error processing package maas-region-controller (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of maas: maas depends on maas-region-controller (= 1.9.0~rc1+bzr4496-0ubuntu1~wily1); however: Package maas-region-controller is not configured yet.
[23:13] <los> roaksoax:Order of dependency?
[23:23] <los> roaksoax: I had removed maas-region-controller and had said "no" to the dbconfig-common dependency removal.
[23:26] <thetrav> heya folks
[23:26] <thetrav> Will MaaS behave itself if my Nodes are not able to view the region controller?
[23:26] <thetrav> is it ok for them to only see the cluster controller?
[23:29] <los> thetrav: I don't know, but, I'm building a 2C1R setup myself and I am wondering if there is connectivity issues between C2 and R1
[23:29] <los> thetrav: C1 and R1 are on the same box
[23:43] <thetrav> yeah, I'm building the same
[23:44] <thetrav> I'm actually trying to set R1, C1 & C2 on the same physical host but in VMs. The box has 3 Nics and it's "important" that the networks C1 and C2 manage don't see each other
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-fi
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[03:00] <Riksoni> huomenta
[11:40] <Iltsu> http://viikonvalo.fi/GNU_Octave
[11:40] <Iltsu> asd
[11:41] <elias_a> fgh
[13:11] <Riksoni> miten "sudo apt-get remove" JA "sudo apt-get autoremove" eroaa toisistaan?
[13:13] <jjo> remove poistaa paketin joka sille kerrotaan ja autoremove poistaa paketteja joita ei enää tarvita
[13:14] <Mikaela> remove poistaa paketin/paketit jotka annat sille ja autoremove poistaa paketit joita ei enää tarvitse, esimerkiksi vanhat ytimet tai jos ohjelman vanha versio halusi jonkin paketin, jota uusi ei tarvitse
[13:15] <Riksoni> kun paketti on poissa, laaki ja vainaa ettei jää mitään ylimääräistä kökköä?
[13:15] <jjo> mutta ero removen ja purgen välillä voisi olla kiinnostavampi
[13:16] <Riksoni> kerro lisää
[13:16] <Mikaela> remove ei koske järjestelmänlaajusiiin asetustiedostoihin, mutta purge poistaa nekin
[13:17] <Riksoni> purge on sitten parempi?
[13:17] <Riksoni> puhtaampaa jälkeä
[13:19] <jjo> no riippuu mitä haluaa :)
[13:20] <tale> Riksoni: No, toisaalta koska purge poistaa asetustiedostotkin pitää asetukset keksiä uudestaan jos asentaa sen paketin takaisin.
[13:20] <jjo> lisäksi käyttäjien ajamat ohjelmat tallentavat yleensä asetuksia käyttäjän kotihakemistoon
[13:21] <jjo> niitä ei poisteta koskaan automaattisesti, ei tietysti kuulukaan
[13:22] <Riksoni> Kiitos
[13:22] <Riksoni> taas opittiin uutta :)
[15:37] <Thaurwylth> Lisäksi ainakin vanhastaan prosessit saattoivat tehdä muutoksia jonnekin mystiseen paikkaan sen oman asennuksen ja käyttäjän .tiedostojen lisäksi.
[15:39] <Thaurwylth> Oli nimittäin niin, että paketti poistamalla ja .tiedostot poistamalla jäljelle jäi silti jotakin kummallista legacyä, joka ei korjaantunut edes asentamalla Ubuntun uusi versio päivitystyökalulla, mutta korjaantui sitten lopulta asentamalla Ubuntu uusiksi tyhjälle kovalevylle.
[15:40] <Thaurwylth> Eli jonnekin kolmanteen paikkaan siellä on vielä paketti tehnyt muutoksia ja Apt ei ole pitänyt tästä kirjaa. Tai siis eihän se pidä kirjaa ~/.tiedostojen olemassaolostakaan, mutta niiden sijainti on muuten tunnettu.
[15:45] <tale> Thaurwylth: Ei APT pidä kirjaa siitä minne sovellus asennuksen jälkeen tekee tiedostoja.
[15:49] <Thaurwylth> Entäs jos se asennuksen aikana haluaa tehdä muutoksia muutenkin kuin standardilla tavalla?
[15:52] <tale> Thaurwylth: Paketin tarkistavien ohjelmien ja kehittäjien pitäisi huomata semmoinen.
[15:52] <ansa> no /var:n alle nyt monikin paketti tekee muutoksia
[15:52] <Thaurwylth> Niin PITÄISI.
[15:53] <ansa> yleensä postrm-skripteissa purge poistaa sen mitä sinne on pukattu, mutta voi toki joskus jotain unohtuakin
[16:19] <Riksoni> taas meni glingoniksi..... mutta opintie on paikka paikoin pitkä ja kestää kauan
[16:24] <elias_a> No aivan varmasti on jos klingon on "glingon" ja opin tie on "opintie".
[16:27] <Thaurwylth> Eeeen pitäisi yhdyssanaksi kirjoittamista minkäänoloisena virheenä, jopa ehkä päin vastoin, mutta joka tapauksessa semmoinen, mistä inahtaa korkeintaan joku Jukka Korpela.
[16:28] <Thaurwylth> Kävinpä joutessani tsekkaamassa, mitäs kaikkea tuolla /varissa ylipäätään on, ooooh, siellähän oli vaikka mitä.
[16:30] <elias_a> Löytyikö kielioppisääntöjä?
[16:32] <Thaurwylth> Onko tässä nyt semmoinen holistinen oletus, että oikeinkirjoitusta pidetään kieliopin osana, mikä periaatteessa on laajasti tulkittuna totta, mutta käytännössä tätä tulkintaa ei kuitenkaan yleensä tehdä?
[16:34] <elias_a> Olkoon.
[16:34] <elias_a> Väärä foorumi.
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-unity
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[14:30] <mterry> cimi, I had told aacid I would review his filter branches, but then I got caught up in another thing. Do you still have spare cycles to look at them?
[14:30] <mterry> I did review one
[14:30] <cimi> mterry, yes
[14:30] <cimi> I can do that
[14:31] <mterry> cimi, thanks! If I get done with this other thing early I can help out
[14:31] <cimi> mterry, which one to start?
[14:31] <mterry> cimi he gave me a list:
[14:31] <mterry> https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/filters/+merge/271616
[14:31] <mterry> https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/new_dash_navigation/+merge/271617
[14:31] <mterry> https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/optionselector_filter/+merge/273194
[14:31] <mterry> https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/optionselector_filter_visual_improvements/+merge/277138
[14:31] <mterry> cimi, I did the first one
[14:31] <mterry> cimi, I think that order makes sense
[15:55] <greyback_> Mirv: hey, can I ask as silly question: I'm on this page https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src and I want to view the current qtbase code in wily. But if I click the branch, I see code from 2013
[15:56] <greyback_> is that the wrong source branch?
[16:34] <greyback_> tsdgeos: any tips for compiling qt for the phone? You work on device, or use a cross compile chroot?
[16:35] <greyback_> qmake not good with cross compile chroots
[16:36] <tsdgeos> greyback_: i usually just compile on home
[16:36] <tsdgeos> sometimes you fill the / partition with dependencies though
[16:36] <tsdgeos> then i resort onto having a chroot in the phone itself
[16:36] <greyback_> tsdgeos: ok, will use chroot on device so
[16:37] <tsdgeos> and then sudo install from chroot/home/bla/whatever.so to /usr/something/
[16:37] <tsdgeos> it's a bit crude but it works :D
[16:37] <greyback_> *nod* pretty much my technique
[16:37] <greyback_> LD_LIBR..... screw it
[16:42] <tsdgeos> greyback_: so it's the same gentextures problem as in widget based apps?
[16:42] <greyback_> tsdgeos: yep
[16:42] <tsdgeos> interesting
[16:42] <tsdgeos> greyback_: if you're compiling qtbase make sure you compile it with the whole command line from debian/rules
[16:42] <tsdgeos> otherwise half of the plugins won't be found
[16:42] <greyback_> yep
[16:43] <greyback_> have the command handy? Am assembling by hand
[16:44] <greyback_> done, don't worry
[17:05] <Mirv> greyback_: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtbase.git/log/?h=ubuntu or the bzr mirror https://code.launchpad.net/qtpackaging - packaging only, you need the .orig.tar.xz in parent dir
[17:05] <greyback_> Mirv: perfect, thanks
[17:06] <Mirv> greyback_: oh but right, that's then 5.5.1 not in wily... sorry. you need simply dget then
[17:07] <greyback_> Mirv: that's ok, I'm not after exact source
[17:11] <mterry> ltinkl, is your wizard redesign branch merged with latest from trunk? I will want to respin the silo today or tomorrow and want to avoid merge conflicts
[17:12] <ltinkl> mterry, I did that yesterday I believe, should be fine
[17:12] <mterry> ltinkl, awesome
[17:12] <ltinkl> mterry, holler if not :)
[17:12] <mterry> ltinkl, will try to respin today then while you're still around :)
[17:12] <ltinkl> mterry, leaving in ~ 30 minutes
[17:13] <mterry> ltinkl, ok started build
[17:14] * ltinkl fingers crossed
[17:23] <mterry> ltinkl, got past the merging of branches part and is building, presumably will be fine
[17:23] <mterry> ltinkl, enjoy the holiday! :)
[17:38] <greyback_> mterry: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/226725033/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.unity8_8.13%2B15.04.20151116-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[18:00] <mterry> greyback_, ugh
[18:01] <mterry> ltinkl, you're not still around I bet?
[21:29] <dandrader> AlbertA, about lp:~albaguirre/qtubuntu/use-mir-surface-apis: could you also set the size hints when creating the surface?
[21:29] <dandrader> AlbertA, instead of only in propagateSizeHints
[21:30] <dandrader> AlbertA, A client might set all the size hints of a window *before* showing it
[21:30] <dandrader> AlbertA, and those size hints won't reach unity8 until the client make a change in any of them, which is when propagateSizeHints() finally gets called
[21:53] <dandrader> AlbertA, well, wrote a patch for this
[22:00] <AlbertA> dandrader: sorry stepped away for a bit... I merged your branch
[22:00] <dandrader> AlbertA, great, thanks!
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-news
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[03:57] * pleia2 gets to work on newsletter things
[04:18] <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue442
[05:05] <Unit193> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu.cat/3250-festa-wily-werewolf---ubuntu-15.10/ - http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-fr/3244-ubuntu-party-paris-15.10/
[17:23] <PaulW2U> links fixed + editorial review done
[19:15] <pleia2> thanks Unit193 and PaulW2U
[19:19] <pleia2> PaulW2U: how do you keep up with the Q&A/Ubuntu on Air type videos?
[19:19] <pleia2> I use rss feeds and email alerts for most things
[19:20] <PaulW2U> I just know that they're every Tuesday :)
[19:20] <pleia2> aha, so manually checking? I guess I do that for the dev team meetings on wiki pages too
[19:22] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 442 for the week November 9 - 15, 2015 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue442
[19:27] <pleia2> jose: if you're bored one of these days, fridge could use another spam culling
[19:27] * pleia2 might take care of it during some mindless downtime otherwise
[19:28] <jose> pleia2: gotcha! will look when I have some time :)
[19:36] <pleia2> ok, I think that's releasing complete
[19:39] * pleia2 packs up for airplane time
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-gr
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[07:54] <eg> kalhmera
[07:55] <Guest22742> pos mporw na paiksw paignidia android se ubuntu 14.04?
[07:56] <kerato> xreiazesai kapoion emulator
[07:56] <kerato> to android studio exei
[07:58] <kerato> http://techapple.net/2014/05/5-best-android-emulators-linux-run-android-apps-linux-ubuntulinuxmintfedoraarchlinuxopensusemageiacentos-etc/
[08:01] <Guest22742> katevasa auto http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html?hl=sk apo tin selida pou ypedeikses
[08:01] <Guest22742> pos kai apo pou anigei?
[08:02] <hikiko> rtfm
[08:02] <Guest22742> ti einai auto?
[08:04] <kerato> anoikse to dash kai grapse android logika 8a emfanistei
[08:07] <Guest22742> ma den to egkatestisa aplos to katebasa
[08:09] <kerato> gia pes kanena kalo paixnidi gia android me thn eykairia
[08:13] <Guest22742> armored aces
[08:14] <Guest22742> paw na ensomatoso to android-studio kai moy bgazei Please validate either STUDIO_JDK, JDK_HOME or JAVA_HOME environment variable points to valid JDK installation.
[08:14] <Guest22742> ti k;ano?
[08:22] <kerato> gia dwse mia
[08:22] <kerato> java -version
[08:23] <Guest22742> Το πρόγραμμα 'java' μπορεί να βρεθεί στα παρακάτω πακέτα:
[08:23] <Guest22742> * default-jre
[08:23] <Guest22742> * gcj-4.8-jre-headless
[08:23] <Guest22742> * openjdk-7-jre-headless
[08:23] <Guest22742> * gcj-4.6-jre-headless
[08:23] <Guest22742> * openjdk-6-jre-headless
[08:23] <Guest22742> Δοκιμάστε: sudo apt-get install <επιλεγμένο πακέτο>
[08:24] <Guest22742> kerato ti kano tora?
[08:24] <kerato> proteinw na egkatasthseis to jdk tis oracle
[08:25] <kerato> psaxto kai ligo monos sou omws giati exw douleia
[08:25] <Guest22742> ok
[09:08] <Guest22742> kerato egkatestisa to android-studio omws h apk den leitourgei
[09:18] <Guest22742> to android-studio anoigei omws den anoigei h apk. Mporei kaneis na boithisei?
[09:44] <Guest22742> Εχω εγκαταστησει το android studio για να παιξω ενα παιγνιδι για android. Ομως το αρχειο με κασταληξη apk δεν ανοιγει. Τι πρέπει να κάνω;
[16:52] <Guest98513> kalhspera
[16:54] <Guest98513> exo egkatastisei to android-studio gia games android. Omos eno ta egkathisto meso diadiktiou den emfanizontai stis egarmoges tou android. Ti kano lathos???
[17:56] <Guest98513> Mπορει κανεις να βοηθήσει για το πως εγκαθιστώ εφαρμογή για android στο android studio;
[19:10] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2812-1: libxml2 vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2812-1/> || USN-2811-1: strongSwan vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2811-1/>
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-community-team
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[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:36] <popey> Morning!
[08:52] <dholbach> hey popey
[08:52] <popey> just the man!
[08:52] <popey> dholbach, i need to pick your brains about build recipes in launchpad - you're an expert in that right? :)
[08:53] <dholbach> I wouldn't consider myself an expert, but I'm happy to look at it with you. :)
[08:53] <popey> hehe :)
[08:53] <popey> I'll check with Francis later, but I think the jenkins bot has been shutdown, which used to build the core apps in the ppa.
[08:54] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily
[08:54] <popey> some are building, some aren't
[08:54] <popey> need to figure out if there's recipes in lp, or it's all jenkins and make sure they all work.
[08:55] <dholbach> popey, maybe we can start with one example which doesn't build?
[08:55] <popey> it's not so much ones that don't build, but ones that don't build for wily
[08:56] <popey> basically none of them build for wily, so I need to figure out what builds them, and poke it
[08:56] <dholbach> popey, have an example?
[08:56] <popey> wasn't sure if it was a recipe or jenkins
[08:56] <popey> music-app
[08:56] <dholbach> ok
[08:56] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily?field.series_filter=wily
[08:56] <popey> none other than dekko (thanks DanChapman :)
[08:56] <popey> aha https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+recipes
[08:57] <popey> dholbach, i think I get it now. Thanks for being my rubber duck :)
[08:57] <dholbach> so for music app I only see recipe builds which go to dpm's ppa (which doesn't seem to work)
[08:57] <dholbach> and vthompson's
[08:57] <popey> yeah
[08:57] <popey> wrong branch I think
[08:57] <dholbach> but they don't go to the core apps ppa
[08:57] <popey> is there a view of all of them?
[08:58] <dholbach> it's not https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/trunk?
[08:58] <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+recipe/music-app-daily should go to the ppa
[08:58] <dpm> we stopped the daily builds, as jenkins was taking care of them
[08:58] <popey> ah, excellent, thanks dpm
[08:59] <popey> I think I need to speak to francis & balloons_ then, because if old-jenkins is now down, and new-jenkins can/might build then I don't need these
[08:59] <popey> if they can't/wont build then I do need these
[08:59] <dpm> but not all of them worked, and at some point I got them building on my PPA (I didn't want to conflict with the Jenkins builds )
[08:59] <popey> I'll speak to balloons_ when he's up to figure out a plan. thanks chaps :)
[09:00] <dpm> ok, cool
[09:01] <dpm> also, now that LP can build snaps, perhaps it might be worth looking at building snaps instead of .debs for the core apps. Well, or both, given the fact that the .debs are already set up to build from the branches
[09:02] <popey> heh, we (myself and dholbach) regularly catch up about snaps
[09:03] <popey> once snaps can do what we need, we will :)
[09:04] <davidcalle> Morning
[09:05] <popey> hey davidcalle
[09:05] <popey> *hugs*
[09:05] <davidcalle> Hey alan, thanks
[09:13] * dholbach hugs davidcalle as well
[09:18] <davidcalle> Thanks dholbach
[09:35] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:36] * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[10:31] <dholbach> davidcalle, are we doing another deployment? :)
[10:31] <davidcalle> dholbach, hopefully, yes :)
[10:59] <popey> dpm, did you send out the community team update? I don't see it anywhere.
[11:06] <dpm> popey, I did not, thanks for the heads up. I shall send it in the next couple of hours
[11:06] <popey> super
[14:05] <jcastro> we should truly make fun of bacon for only now advocating atom
[14:05] <jcastro> I was like "dude atom is awesome" for like, ever, and he was like, whatever fanboy
[14:05] <jcastro> now he's like "omg atom amazing github lol lol."
[14:05] <jcastro> I shall dispense justice
[14:06] <mhall119> jcastro: agreed
[14:34] <dholbach> mhall119, davidcalle: what are we going to do about the django/cms update?
[14:35] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/show-gadgetsnap-images/+merge/277089 is another MP for which I'll have to update the upgrade branch because of added migrations :-)
[14:40] <mhall119> dholbach: sorry I didn't have the time to try it last week, and with FOSSETCON coming this week I'm not sure I'll have time now
[14:40] <mhall119> a review of the diff looked fine to me, so if you and davidcalle can test the upgrade in staging to verify that nothing breaks, it has my +1
[14:46] <dholbach> mhall119, ok, we could theoretically try to land it there and then do a concerted effort to try to break staging together
[14:47] <dholbach> mhall119, is it easy for us to update staging's data to be close to prod?
[14:51] <mhall119> dholbach: no, you'd have to file an RT to have the prod data copied into the staging db
[14:51] <mhall119> we can't do it ourselves
[14:51] <dholbach> ok
[15:25] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you think we can get the gadget list change on prod and the the django/cms upgrade on staging this week? O:-)
[15:25] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'm testing the gadget list on staging right now
[15:25] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[15:32] <dpm> morning mhall119, call?
[15:32] <mhall119> dpm: on my way
[15:33] <dpm> cool
[16:07] <davidcalle> dholbach, still deploying on staging..... zzz.
[16:10] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[16:10] <dholbach> I updated the upgrade branch
[16:10] <dholbach> (with the migrations)
[16:39] <popey> jose, when is a good time/day for you to discuss Google CodeIn?
[16:39] <popey> (on a hangout with balloons ?)
[16:39] <popey> (and me)
[16:40] <jose> popey: eh, I'm travelling this week... but I can try and do something early morning tomorrow
[16:40] <popey> what's "early" for you? UTC wise?
[16:40] <jose> is balloons available tomorrow at 13 UTC?
[16:40] <jose> hehe, I was just typing
[16:40] <popey> :)
[16:40] <balloons> ohh, early
[16:41] <jose> otherwise I can try from 14 to 14:30ish
[16:41] <popey> I'm easy for those.
[16:41] <popey> I can fit in around you chaps
[16:41] <balloons> 1300 is usually a little hectic in the house for me now; normally it wouldn't matter
[16:42] <jose> balloons: 14?
[16:43] * popey creates it before anyone gets a chance to say "no"
[16:44] <jose> lol
[16:44] <popey> invited both
[16:44] <jose> popey: can you invite [email protected] please? @ubuntu is an alias and makes google go crazy
[16:45] <balloons> lol
[16:45] <popey> sure thing!
[16:45] <jose> thanks :D
[16:45] <popey> done
[16:45] <popey> :)
[16:45] <popey> \o/
[17:14] <dholbach> I call it a day - see you all tomorrow again!
[17:15] <popey> o/
[17:28] <davidcalle> mhall119, the issue I was having with staging seems to have disappeared with a new deployment \o/
[17:28] <davidcalle> Alright, see you tomorrow or in the european late hours... o/
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-hr
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[07:37] <SilverSpace> jutro
[07:44] <dodobas> yutro
[07:57] <Mmike> dodobas: pogodi kak' sam sladak :)
[08:04] <SilverSpace> Mmike: kaj si upao u cokoladu :)
[08:06] <Mmike> meh
[08:06] <Mmike> da bar
[08:06] <Mmike> onda bi me dodek liznul :)
[08:11] <SilverSpace> :)
[08:13] <dodobas> Mmike: si bio na b00bs jobu? :)
[08:15] <Mmike> ne
[08:15] <Mmike> moje su grudi savrsene as they are
[08:16] * Mmike je jucer gledao dokumentarac o Marini Abramovic - ne sjecam se kad me se prije takav dokumentarac dojmio
[08:16] <Mmike> uz to sto je zena potpuno luda :)
[08:18] <SilverSpace> Mmike: koja je ta? to ona crnogorka
[08:19] <dodobas> Mmike: onda ne znam zasto bi bio sladji nego sto jesi
[08:43] <Mmike> dodobas: nisam uzeo ulje
[08:44] <dodobas> Mmike: a sta sad... sladak si :)
[08:44] <Mmike> pa, bar to :)
[08:45] * dodobas je znao da ce morati otici do Mmike pa mu onda trubiti ispred zgrade...
[08:56] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-NBPS2R44s
[08:56] <datase> YouTube: Cro Trash Dance Mix - Dj FleX - 0:13:11 - 82956 views - 151 likes / 12 dislikes
[09:08] <jelly> rizol konf
[09:10] <Mmike> stavio sam praznu salicu u mikrovalnu
[09:10] <Mmike> jako je vruca
[09:38] <dodobas> Mmike: imas prijedlog "prostorno vremenske koordinate" za gablec ?
[09:38] <jelly> alfa kvadrant
[09:38] <Mmike> dodobas: ti bi jeo bez obzira na ulje?
[09:40] <dodobas> Mmike: pa ja bih jeo, ne nuzno s tobom...
[09:40] <Mmike> :P
[09:40] <dodobas> ako je ranije, onda ok... ako je kasnije moram ici nesto prigristi, jer nisam jeo jutros ...
[09:43] <Mmike> vileni: nisi pejsto
[09:43] <vileni> Mmike: koji
[09:43] <Mmike> dodobas: pa ja mogu u podne vec. Osh hambek-bambek, ili hoces nesh drugo?
[09:43] <Mmike> dodobas: ima tu na branimircu trovac klasika, ima gulasa ima rostilja
[09:43] <Mmike> vileni: AMDpovrayovoono
[09:43] <Mmike> ivoks: ziv?
[09:44] <dodobas> Mmike: daleko mi branimirac... nemam bicikl
[09:49] <dodobas> doduse imam auto pa te mogu skupit... ili nesto
[09:50] <dodobas> iako bih radije centar.. gdje mogu pjesice
[09:53] <Mmike> tkalca, roket?
[09:54] <Mmike> dodobas: ^^
[10:02] <dodobas> moze... treba mi 25min do tamo.. odokativno
[10:07] <Mmike> dodobas: gut, ja cu se prosetat valjda :)
[10:08] <dodobas> Mmike: prosetat kao i obicno ? :)
[10:09] <Mmike> pa budem uber probao
[10:09] <Mmike> ak na leti
[10:09] <Mmike> ak ne, ne
[10:09] <Mmike> moram i tak u narodnenovine po neke drzavnoustavotvorne formulater
[10:09] <Mmike> frend je pred 10ak godina radio za strance i sve pare je primao u sloveniji ili austriji
[10:09] <Mmike> nije placao nit porez nit ista
[10:10] <Mmike> sad i on ima firmu i sve
[10:10] <Mmike> eh, sta ti je bilo vrijeme prije EU
[10:17] <dodobas> nedostaje jos vremenska odrednica
[11:04] <Mmike> jesul' se cule kod vas sirene?
[11:04] <Mmike> rekli su u podne, al' nista
[11:08] <Mmike> dodobas: ja cu krenut za 15 min, to o k?
[11:14] <dodobas> pa za koliko si tamo ?
[11:14] <dodobas> tj. kad planiras biti tamo
[11:24] <Mmike> ok
[11:24] <Mmike> krecem
[11:24] <Mmike> 20 min?
[11:28] <dodobas> Mmike: ok
[14:38] <vileni> microsoft me pita jel imam dial-up, cable ili T1 da mi kaze koliko certifikata mogu skinuti odjednom
[14:40] <vileni> s obzirom koliko cekam da download krene, reklo bi se da oni to imaju sa svoje strane
[14:42] <jelly> koliko bi ti skidao, bolan
[14:57] <vileni> pa 2!
[14:58] <vileni> previse im je to, odustao i nasao u dropboxu :)
[14:58] <vileni> cisco ne mogu ni naci gdje se skida, nijedan link mi ne radi
[15:00] <vileni> ja bi se kladio da ovo dvoje ima skriptu koja im gasi u 16:00 irc
[15:07] <jelly> šššš
[15:08] <jelly> šef mora vidit da su došli na vrijeme i otišli na vrijeme!
[15:13] <jelly> https://copy.sh/v86/
[15:22] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan
[16:00] <jelly> dobra večer
[17:05] * Mmike ce sutra dobit VDSL2 modem
[17:05] <Mmike> pa ce da vidimo
[17:05] <Mmike> kako se skidaju certifikati!
[17:09] * jelly ima modem već 2 godine
[17:09] <jelly> ... samo nema paricu :-)
[17:37] <jelly> SilverSpace: ti se veselis ovakvim djidjama https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/802007522/up-intel-x5-z8300-board-in-a-raspberry-pi2-form-fa
[17:40] <SilverSpace> jelly: oo ovo nije lose bolje nego rpi2
[17:40] <jelly> to je pc, a takva je i cijena
[17:41] <jelly> 110 eura za 2GB verziju
[17:43] <SilverSpace> cca 800kn
[17:43] <SilverSpace> hm
[17:47] <SilverSpace> ubilezio pa cemo vidjeti
[18:04] <vileni> Mmike: koliko su ti obecali megabitova?
[18:11] <ivoks> isssssssssssssaaaaaaaatttttiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[18:11] <ivoks> da ti
[18:11] <ivoks> issssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:11] <ivoks> kakvih se sve konfiguracija ovi telkoi nece sjetiti
[18:12] <ivoks> matereti
[18:20] <SilverSpace> ke
[18:42] <Mmike> ivoks, jesi doso doma vise?
[18:42] <Mmike> vileni, 40/10 ili 40/40, vidjet ce, nemaju pojma kak kvalitetno mogu ponudit
[18:42] <Mmike> brijem da sam ubrao zadnji vlak jer ce sad amis samo kabl nuditi, k'o bnet
[18:57] <vileni> Mmike: kako 40/40
[18:57] <vileni> sta moze to
[18:59] <Mmike> pa to je vdsl2
[18:59] <Mmike> stajaznam
[18:59] <Mmike> sutra cu ti znat tocno rec :)
[18:59] <vileni> hm, ja imam vdsl, neznam da li je 2
[18:59] <Mmike> VDSL2 permits the transmission of asymmetric and symmetric aggregate data rates up to 200 Mbit/s downstream and upstream on twisted pairs using a bandwidth up to 30 MHz. It deteriorates quickly from a theoretical maximum of 250 Mbit/s at source to 100 Mbit/s at 0.5 km (1,600 ft) and 50 Mbit/s at 1 km (3,300 ft), but degrades at a much slower rate from there, and outperforms VDSL. Starting from 1.6 km (1 mi) its performance is equal to ADSL2+.[3]
[18:59] <Mmike> vileni, mislim da svi imaju 2, to je jelly nesh objasnjavao bio pred nekoliko
[19:00] <Mmike> vileni, cek, a na cem si ti?
[19:00] <Mmike> kaj nisi ti bnet?
[19:00] <vileni> iskon
[19:00] <Mmike> aha, to si bio u starom stanu
[19:00] <vileni> da
[19:00] <Mmike> i kol'ko ti imas goredoljeanja?
[19:00] <vileni> ovdje 42/7
[19:00] <vileni> izmjereno, i po informacijama sa modema
[19:00] <Mmike> pa
[19:00] <Mmike> to je ok
[19:00] <vileni> s tim da je 7 nekad i 6
[19:00] <Mmike> ja imam sad 12/1
[19:00] <vileni> kako mu dodje
[19:01] <Mmike> i ono, 12 je taman ajde nek ti bude
[19:01] <Mmike> 1 je jebem ti srecu
[19:01] <vileni> pa radije bih 20/20 nego ovo :)
[19:01] <vileni> iako mi je zgodno za steam
[19:09] <SilverSpace> buuuu
[19:10] * SilverSpace bas sam jadan
[19:11] <SilverSpace> 8192/512
[19:26] <obrut> sirotinjo :)
[19:27] <obrut> a kao da ljudima i treba vise... s tom brzinom pornjava sasma ok radi
[20:01] <SilverSpace> :)
[20:10] <SilverSpace> ln
[21:35] <jelly> vileni: da, imas vdsl2
[21:35] <jelly> ono sto parica moze, ono sto teoretski bandwidth daje i ono sto hakom dozvoljava su razlicite stvari
[22:20] <SakiKnin> dobravece
[22:20] <SakiKnin> pitanje nije vezano za ubuntu
[22:20] <SakiKnin> ali evo
[22:21] <SakiKnin> napravio sam app u RORu
[22:21] <SakiKnin> stavio na github i openshift
[22:21] <SakiKnin> u nadi da ću svoju app viditi kao www.wandererspage.com
[22:22] <SakiKnin> ali kaže da je server not found
[22:35] <SakiKnin> server nije dostupan istocnoj europi
[22:35] <SakiKnin> balkane moj
[22:47] <jelly> server?
[22:47] <jelly> to je dns greska.
[22:49] <jelly> SakiKnin: domena wandererspage.com uopce ne postoji, pa stoga ne moze postojati ni www.wandererspage.com server niti web servis na istom
[22:50] <SakiKnin> sada sam je obrisao
[22:50] <SakiKnin> jelly: ali bio sam je kreirao na open shiftu ONLINe maloprije
[22:51] <jelly> ne znam sto si napravio i obrisao, ali cisto sumnjam da "open shift" registrira nove domene besplatno za korisnike
[22:52] <jelly> ak zelis vlastitu domenu, moras je zakupiti kod nekog registrara. Tek onda mozes negdje (obicno na istom registraru) drzati DNS servere, i namjestiti da www.wandererspage.com postoji i da pokazuje na neku javnu adresu gdje se nalazi tvoj web server i web servis
[22:54] <SakiKnin> njihova domena je rgcloud.com
[22:55] <SakiKnin> rhclud.com
[22:57] <SakiKnin> jelly, ok razumijem. Mislio sam da ovdje to mogu for free
[22:57] <jelly> pa nisu oni blesavi da kupe random domenu da bi se ti igrao s njom
[22:59] <SakiKnin> koliko bi me to izaslo
[23:19] <jelly> red velicine $10 godisnje, ovisi o tome koliko unaprijed kupis i koji je TLD
[23:19] <jelly> .ninja domene su jeftinije od .com
[23:19] <jelly> i koji registrar koristis
[23:20] <SakiKnin> jelly: hvala!
[23:21] <SakiKnin> jelly:Their morals, their code; it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. You'll see- I'll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They'll eat each other. See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.
[23:21] <jelly> ?
[23:21] <SakiKnin> iz filma Betmen, Dark Knight
[23:21] <SakiKnin> :)
[23:22] <SakiKnin> joker
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-discuss
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[02:15] * daftykins parts the channel, puts his feet up and grabs a beer
[02:16] <pauljw> hey daftykins :) been a day?
[02:16] <OerHeks> :-)
[02:16] <pauljw> :)
[02:16] <OerHeks> weekend support is awesome
[02:16] <daftykins> it sure has! out walking in the blustery windy island :>
[02:17] <pauljw> ah...
[02:17] <pauljw> was quiet here all day, daughter was visiting a girlfriend.
[02:18] <daftykins> peace \o/
[02:19] <pauljw> yeah
[02:22] <DosTuMai> Dammit. Wish I could visit my girlfriend.
[02:26] <DosTuMai> Anyways, I'm off to bed.
[02:27] <OerHeks> daftykins, oh man, you miss all the fun in #ubuntu :-D
[02:27] <OerHeks> g'night DosTuMai
[02:27] <daftykins> i did :O
[02:27] <DosTuMai> Daftykins still banned? =o
[02:27] <daftykins> lol wat
[02:28] <daftykins> no i just parted the channel to spare my sanity tonight
[02:28] <DosTuMai> Oh. xD Maybe my brain finally dribbled out. Anyways, good luck with keeping your sanity together.
[03:26] <daftykins> TJ-: mornin' o/
[03:26] <TJ-> morning :)
[03:27] <daftykins> what funky hours you keep sir! ;)
[03:29] <TJ-> just got up :)
[03:29] <TJ-> You stand need to talk! :p
[03:31] * daftykins blinks and looks at the beer can
[03:31] * cfhowlett reminds daftykins that when you stare into the beer can, the beer stares back.
[03:34] <daftykins> ooh-err, and then i kill it :(
[03:45] <pauljw> hi TJ- , gnite all... :)
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:10] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[05:10] <TJ-> morning
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks and TJ-
[05:10] <OerHeks> been buzzy with hosts file, works wonderfull
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: what are you playing with?
[05:12] <OerHeks> first i was looking at this https://winbeginner.com/block-facebook-hosts-file-windows-pc/ then added http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hostswin7.htm
[05:12] <OerHeks> the last one is an old trusted one, but not complete, i dig further in my archives ..
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: to block kids facebook time, is your purpose?
[05:13] <OerHeks> to block all facebook-crap
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> ah
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: isnt there like an easy FF addon for things like that?
[05:15] <OerHeks> i want to live in Belgium as they fine mark zugerflirk 250.000 per day
[05:15] <OerHeks> maybe .. i don't have FF
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: ok chrome addon :p
[05:19] <TJ-> OerHeks: best trick there is configure it the router to point to a host on the LAN with a web server on it, and on that web-server's root but a static capture (using wget) of the facebook log-in page, and watch folks get REALLY confused and mad at facebook being broken for so long :)
[05:20] <OerHeks> oh, i usually do that with google
[05:20] <OerHeks> :-
[05:20] <OerHeks> D
[05:20] <OerHeks> SSID "thisisnotfreeinternet"
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> did FF have plans to integrated webcam? anyone tested this?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol
[05:21] <TJ-> webRTC, yes
[05:22] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: jinx :)
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> not that im gonna use it :p
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> sounds more like a hacker feast to me, abusing 0day webcam exploit to watch their victims
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> in our country, the police received new android phones that are really exploitable...lol
[05:34] <OerHeks> nom nom nom ... wikileaks ANNOUNCE: Today (Monday, EST) we release 30 hours of tapes related to a billion dollar corruption scandal with links to the White House.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> oh oh
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> the world gonna shake
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> finaly the top dogs to blame
[05:36] <OerHeks> it is *just* a billion, lotuspsychje
[05:36] <OerHeks> :-D
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: that ammount is on my daily account pffft
[05:36] <OerHeks> but i think it is oke, to get this in the open.
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> of course unmasking the elite is always a win
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> but, i wonder how much is gonna change after...
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> if someone get sued, they just pay the fine and done..
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> its such a dirty moneyworld
[05:38] <OerHeks> "before the world becomes one califate ... it is already divided"
[05:38] <OerHeks> :-D
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[05:38] <OerHeks> man is the beast in the animalkingdom
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> mankind live like beasts indeed
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> its time the ubuntu lifestyle takes it over
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> helping users with pc troubles always so much fun, you always run into personal funny stories
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> morning Latrodectus
[07:44] <Latrodectus> good night lotuspsychje
[07:44] <Latrodectus> lotuspsychje: guess who got a job?
[07:51] <Latrodectus> me ^.^
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[09:26] <Guest13239> Good morning.
[09:26] <Guest13239> Hey lotuspsychje
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> wb cfhowlett
[09:27] <cfhowlett> :) yep. Just can't get enough
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj
[12:42] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/birds-linux-6-0-is-a-distro-for-students-featuring-kde-plasma-5-4-3-496200.shtml
[12:59] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, interesting , are you going to try it?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: no, just saw plasma thought it might be relevant to read :p
[13:06] <BluesKaj> well, I'm a fan of kde 4 , but not the new plsama 5 on kde so much
[13:07] <BluesKaj> plasma even
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> i havent used kde for a long time myself :p
[13:08] <BluesKaj> that's why I keep a partiiton with kubuntu 14.04 LTS as my main stable OS
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> nice
[13:09] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 has dropped some of my fav features and added ones I will probly never use
[13:10] <BluesKaj> I'm quite disappointed in the direction Kubuntu is going
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: will plasma be default in the future then?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> it seems so, lotuspsychje
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: isnt there like a fallback or so? like gnome fallback?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> my issues with plasma5 have been largely ignored by the devs
[13:16] <BluesKaj> gnome doesn't have the features I like in kde4
[13:16] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, my sense is that there is an unhealthy amount of internal chaos on that project ...
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: no i mean a kde-style fallback to install if you dont like plasma
[13:17] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, there was, but it 's settled down for the time being
[13:19] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I wish that was true, i'd install kde4/plasma4 immediately if I could on 15.10 or even 16.04
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !info plasma xenial
[13:20] <ubot5`> Package plasma does not exist in xenial
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !info plasma
[13:20] <ubot5`> Package plasma does not exist in vivid
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !info plasma4
[13:20] <ubot5`> Package plasma4 does not exist in vivid
[13:20] <BluesKaj> bot is incorrect
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> got wrong packagename perhaps
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> !info kde-plasma-desktop
[13:22] <ubot5`> Package kde-plasma-desktop does not exist in vivid
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> !info kubuntu-desktop
[13:22] <ubot5`> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.323 (vivid), package size 4 kB, installed size 58 kB
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> its part of the kubuntu desktop?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> brb
[13:23] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, yup
[13:25] <BluesKaj> brb as well
[13:36] <BluesKaj> switched back to 14.04, so I can stop complaining :-)
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: :p
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: maybe xenial will have nice plasma features?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> I miss the different wallpapers for each virtual desktop on plasma 5
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> maybe TJ- knows a trick for that, he's on kde also if i recall
[13:59] <BluesKaj> it would be nice to run kde 4/plasma 4 on the newer releases , but I think most of the "improvements" are to the desktop and it's new look and so called features , otherwise there's not much difference in terms od real usage
[13:59] <BluesKaj> od=of
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i see
[14:01] <BluesKaj> in other words plasma 5 is mostly cosmetic in my experience
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> it all changed alot
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> !info kubuntu-desktop xenial
[14:17] <ubot5`> kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.331 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 40 kB
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: did you notice changes on the xenial one?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, so far not many changes vs Wily, but it's still early in the game.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[14:33] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, pic of bug 1463112 http://imgur.com/qQXwGyj
[14:33] <ubot5`> bug 1463112 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cat sitting on keyboard crashes lightdm" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463112
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> hehe: http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-team-needs-a-cat-to-replicate-important-bug-496205.shtml
[14:38] <OerHeks> jups, wastrel is under siege for this pic :-D
[14:39] <cfhowlett> oh, the picture just makes it PURRfect!
[14:39] * OerHeks thinks it is a selfie
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> http://www.deviantart.com/art/BSDBox-with-Plank-572375842
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> pretty nice that plank
[14:57] <BluesKaj> gotta reboot ..new kernel version
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> ok
[17:00] <daftykins> i wondered why #ubuntu was so quiet, helps when you're in there...
[17:00] <OerHeks> /ignore *
[17:01] <OerHeks> hihi
[17:03] <daftykins> :D hallo! how's OerHeks today?
[17:05] <OerHeks> Fine, did some household duties, now finishing my coffee and go for a walk to the store, food-hunt.
[17:05] <OerHeks> And about you ?
[17:18] <daftykins> sounds good! yeah just recovering from a long ride yesterday
[17:18] <daftykins> i was meant to do another today but i felt pretty lethargic so i got out of it :)
[17:18] <daftykins> carried on with my email support issue instead, weird one where a client couldn't receive or send from some domains
[17:18] <OerHeks> Snow is comming, so use these last soft days to go out :-)
[17:23] <BluesKaj> supposedly going to have a mild winter here in Ontario Canada, we could use one after the last 2 arctic blasts
[17:27] <daftykins> :)
[18:12] <OerHeks> Yay, fresh dogfood
[18:14] <daftykins> OerHeks: tough times eh? ;)
[18:14] <OerHeks> No, having guests ... ow wait
[18:14] <daftykins> but that *is* the guests! :)
[18:15] <OerHeks> got the 2 chihuahuas from my mom here, they really like Drabbers treats.
[18:15] <OerHeks> eating out is always better, you know
[18:16] <OerHeks> "neighbours grass is greener" ( funny translated dutch saying)
[18:19] <daftykins> hehehe
[19:32] <Latrodectus> there should be an entry for ubotu to not use enter as a punctuation...
[19:34] <Latrodectus> something like "!enter -> Please stop using enter as a punctuation mark"
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu
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[20:17] <PMunch> Yes, the stick shows up nicely. I'm just unable to choose an iso
[20:18] <syntroPi> what you mean unable to choose?
[20:18] <k1l_> PMunch: what system is that?
[20:19] <django_> i feel like its been progressively getting slower
[20:19] <hijvvd> I'm wanted to remotely access my ubuntu desktop from work. What would be a secure way to go about this?
[20:19] <hijvvd> *wanting
[20:19] <PMunch> I press the "other" button, find my iso but when I click open the dialog closes but no change is done in the program itself.
[20:20] <PMunch> k1l_, What do you mean
[20:20] <PMunch> This is Xubuntu 14.04
[20:20] <syntroPi> PMunch, hmm what iso are you trying to choose? is it a debain or ubuntu?
[20:20] <PMunch> Neither
[20:20] <k1l_> PMunch: are you running a regular user? where is the iso located? is it a iso?
[20:20] <PMunch> Does it matter?
[20:21] <syntroPi> maybe it tries to look inside that iso to see if its compatible
[20:21] <syntroPi> which iso is it?
[20:21] <k1l_> dont know about other distros isos. or is it even windows?
[20:21] <PMunch> k1l_, I'm running as regular user but I've also tried sudo, the iso is in my Downloads directory and it is an iso.
[20:21] <ioria> yep, start-up disk is weird
[20:21] <PMunch> syntroPi, it's Manjaro i3 version
[20:22] <syntroPi> PMunch, iso is just an container format for disk images
[20:22] <syntroPi> cd images rather
[20:22] <PMunch> I just find it weird that it doesn't give any errors..
[20:22] <ioria> PMunch, the iso is in Downlaods
[20:22] <ioria> ?
[20:22] <PMunch> ioria, yes
[20:22] <syntroPi> PMunch, not sure if startup disk creator understands manjaro disks or what it looks for inside that isos
[20:23] <syntroPi> maybe try using it with an ubuntu iso just to rule out its that?
[20:23] <PMunch> Hmm, how would I go ahead and do it then? I'll download some random Ubuntu distro to check
[20:23] <howudodat> PMunch: or you can try using tuxboot. or unetbootin
[20:23] <newuser> i find a nickname syslog, can anyone help me?
[20:24] <ioria> PMunch, if you try to use it with mini.iso, ... same thing !
[20:25] <ioria> PMunch, have you tried dd ?
[20:26] <aurora_> Hi. I dont know if this is the right channel for this question, if its not please direct me right, but what do you people use ubuntu (linux) for?
[20:26] <ioria> PMunch, with standard ubuntu-desktop it works
[20:26] <syntroPi> PMunch, yeah either that or launch it from a terminal (usb-creator-gtk) to watch its output while you choose
[20:27] <palm_premium> aurora_, that is a very broad question, one you might want to ask in #ubuntu-oftopic, this channel is for support questions.
[20:27] <django_> i have an acer aspire M with ubuntu12.04
[20:27] <django_> are there any tricks to make it faster
[20:27] <aurora_> palm_premium, thank you ver much =)
[20:27] <k1l_> aurora_: its a operating system and the use may vary from user to user. but in general: the same thing you use other OS like windows or osx for.
[20:28] <aurora_> k1l_, thanks =)
[20:28] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/clZZ6kon/
[20:28] <PMunch> syntroPi, tried that, gave me nothing.
[20:29] <PMunch> ioria, wouldn't I have to do something to make it bootable or whatnot?
[20:29] <k1l_> django_: its not the ram. that is fine
[20:29] <syntroPi> PMunch, i guess it just fails silently because it dont understand that iso contents
[20:29] <k1l_> django_: see htop or top what is using your power
[20:29] <django_> k1l_: what is htop or top
[20:29] <howudodat> PMunch: startup disk creator gives me nothing but headaches...try http://tuxboot.org/
[20:30] <ioria> PMunch, i'm used to cd in the iso dir, and then dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdX
[20:30] <ioria> PMunch, with sudo
[20:30] <syntroPi> PMunch, just be carefull to choose the correct device :P
[20:30] <ioria> PMunch, right
[20:30] <k1l_> ioria: if the iso is a hybrid iso, like the ubuntu ones :)
[20:31] <ioria> k1l_ oh.... ok
[20:32] <k1l_> django_: or use the system monitor
[20:32] <django_> k1l_: to determine what?
[20:33] <k1l_> django_: you said its slow. so look what is using your cpu power.
[20:33] <MelRay> I just installed the roundcube package using apt-get. I'm not sure how to access the installer as it doesn't find it, and all the howto's I've read talk about making directories whereas the install automatically created the database. Anyone advise me how to access the installer from browser?
[20:34] <syntroPi> MelRay, try #roundcube
[20:36] <MelRay> You think the folks at roundcube will want to support installation NOT by their method?
[20:39] <ioria> PMunch, seems dd should worh https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Burn_an_ISO_File
[20:40] <ioria> *work
[20:40] <sruli> when encrypting a file with encfs (or anything similar) should the file get slightly bigger?
[20:40] <PMunch> ioria, hmm I guess. I managed to create a drive using unetbootin so I think I'm good. Just backing up my old system in case something goes wrong at the moment and then I'll try it out.
[20:41] <aurora_> Is there a way now to get netflix running on ubuntu? Or they still dont support it?
[20:41] <ioria> PMunch, ok, good luck mate
[20:41] <tlt> aurora_, isn't it possible to just use their website?
[20:41] <JO0st> aurora_: it should work in chrome, I don't have a netflix account myself to test it
[20:41] <aurora_> tlt, i tryed it before but the vids dident play
[20:42] <tlt> aurora_, chrome has flash embedded, so try that
[20:43] <aurora_> JO0st, ah, okay. ill give it a try later on =) Thanks for the response =)
[20:43] <aurora_> tlt, thanks =9
[20:43] <PMunch> ioria, thanks. This is actually one of the reasons why I haven't switched earlier. Ubuntu is just so easy to get support for with lots of knowledgeable people ready to help. I do feel however that it is a bit too bloated for me and as I've swapped out a lot of the defaults and always find myself wanting newer packages than what's in the repos I feel it's time to switch.
[20:43] <OerHeks> for DRM flash chrome indeed
[20:43] <ioria> PMunch, ^_^
[20:44] <genii> aurora_: As you're being directed here, and as I stated to you in #ubuntu-offtopic also, Windows things that use the browser to operate like Office365 and so on usually work in Linux if you use the Chrome browser
[20:44] <OerHeks> !cookie | ioria
[20:44] <ioria> OerHeks, yuppy
[20:45] <aurora_> genii, thanks
[20:45] <syntroPi> aurora_, i would recommend chromium-browser together with pepperflashplugin-nonfree (if you really want flash, it has many security problems)
[20:46] <syntroPi> though the chrome(ium) versions are sandboxed so it may be a bit more secure than firefox + flash
[20:46] <ubuntunewbie> can anyone help me troubleshoot a mdadm array not loading at boot (ubuntu 15 server). mdadm --assemble --scan recreates it manually. i have done mdadm -Es >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf but it still doesnt work and i do not see any errors. it is as if it simply doesnt try to assemble it.
[20:46] <ubuntunewbie> i have found about 100 guides but they are all dated. i have truid removing everything but ARRAY /dev/md0 and the guid as well
[20:46] <aurora_> syntroPi, sweet, thanks
[20:47] <tlt> don't forget chrome when/if that fails, aurora_
[20:47] <OnkelTem> X consumes about 400Mb of RAM. Is it normal?
[20:48] <Ben64> sure
[20:48] <OnkelTem> But how it uses it? Isn't that too much for just nothing? It doesn't count plasma-desktop for example which takes only 140MB
[20:48] <syntroPi> Xorg uses 27 MB on my box
[20:49] <OnkelTem> syntroPi: you probably run black/fluxbox or something?
[20:49] <Ben64> for nothing? you realize x is the gui
[20:49] <syntroPi> well it alway depend how you count ram usage ofc
[20:50] <sruli> when encrypting a file with encfs (or anything similar) should the file get slightly bigger?
[20:50] <OnkelTem> Ben64: you mean the whole KDE thing is counted there in those 400MB?
[20:50] <SCHAAP137> 179M here using MATE
[20:50] <syntroPi> OnkelTem, how do you check for ram usage?
[20:50] <OnkelTem> syntroPi: I see on the resident part in htop/top
[20:50] <OnkelTem> look at*
[20:50] <Ben64> is something not working?
[20:50] <tlt> sruli, yeah all files 'grow' to 12kb, or so, it seems, with encfs. If they're smaller than 12kb
[20:51] <tlt> so it's blocks of 12kb, kind of like clusters, it might seem
[20:51] <OnkelTem> Ben64: I try to save some RAM for other processes
[20:51] <Ben64> how much ram do you have
[20:51] <OnkelTem> 16GB
[20:52] <Ben64> then don't worry
[20:52] <kostkon> !ram
[20:53] <tlt> sruli, and with encryption it's natural that they either get bigger or smaller yes, due to encryption and compressibility, whichever applies heaviest
[20:53] <OnkelTem> Ben64: actually, I worry more about Chrome. Where the hell it wastes my RAM? :)
[20:53] <syntroPi> OnkelTem, on Gnome shell i get about 67 MB for that, but hey if you got 16GB dont worry about that i think it may be normal for KDE on Xorg
[20:53] <OnkelTem> Only starting it up blows away about 1,5GB
[20:53] <k1l_> OnkelTem: waisted ram is ram that is not used
[20:53] <tlt> sruli, a 200mb text file might shrink, if you're using an encryption tool with compression, but a non compressive file might end up bigger than its original, it varies.
[20:53] <k1l_> OnkelTem: its like having a 16 floor house but only living in 4 floors.
[20:54] <OnkelTem> Folks, I wouldn't worry about no reason. I've got a job (maybe) and have installed wokring stuff. And took so much that I left w/o any RAM for even Eclipse
[20:54] <OnkelTem> without a reason*
[20:55] <k1l_> OnkelTem: "free -m" in a pastebin?
[20:56] <OnkelTem> k1l_: let me start that stuff first
[20:56] <k1l_> OnkelTem: actually, ram usage is split into "real usage" and some buffers and caches. and that caches and buffers can be easily made free if another program needs "real usage". so it does look full, but it isnt
[20:57] <OnkelTem> k1l_: actually I know that, but thanks :)
[20:58] <Delta706> Can someone suggest a channel dealing with security issues? I have a security problem I want to solve
[20:58] <tlt> Delta706, ##security
[20:59] <syntroPi> OnkelTem, you even can flush caches like "echo X > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" and X be 1 2 or 3. but i think its done automatically anyway by the kernel
[20:59] <prp-e> Hi, I have composed a song in tuxguitar and now I want to add information about song, but unlike guitar pro, tux guitar didn't ask me at start. What can I do? (I know here's not the right place, but it's the best place I could ask).
[21:01] <aurora_> is there a way to see if i broken my ubuntu? when i tried to fix with making office365 work with thunderbird
[21:02] <syntroPi> oO
[21:02] <aurora_> ..or fix the touchpad from stop working after suspend
[21:03] <aurora_> did a lot of stuff that i really dident understand fully :/
[21:06] <OnkelTem> aurora_: my condolences. Sometimes things become complicated if you act by a guess
[21:08] <letuschat29_> Hello there
[21:08] <aurora_> OnkelTem, should I reinstall everything? it seems to be working ...
[21:08] <OnkelTem> but hopefully Linux can be fully "traced". Every action can be explained. It's not a blackbox like Windows or (my pain) - Eclipse
[21:08] <OnkelTem> aurora_: no need, just split disaster into pieces and resolve each separately
[21:09] <letuschat29_> aurora
[21:09] <letuschat29_> what happened with your lovely Tux?
[21:09] <aurora_> OnkelTem, thanks. ill do that
[21:10] <OnkelTem> aurora_: so why do you think you've broken it?
[21:10] <tesla> yep. you can install it but you can't run it?
[21:10] <letuschat29_> is anybody from Colombia Here
[21:10] <letuschat29_> ??
[21:11] <aurora_> OnkelTem, because i did stuff i dont know much about. not sure tho. but the sites i read it on seemed to be legit
[21:11] <k1l_> aurora_: what is your issue? you dont know if you broke your system? does it work or is it broken?
[21:12] <k1l_> aurora_: to me it sounds like you try to fix something that is not broken at all
[21:12] <aurora_> it works, i tried this for example: http://www.techportal.co.za/linux/315-laptop-touchpad-not-working-in-ubuntu
[21:13] <k1l_> aurora_: did it help?
[21:13] <letuschat29_> sudo init 0
[21:13] <letuschat29_> jajajaj
[21:13] <k1l_> aurora_: its dated to 2010, so that is 5 years old already. a lot changed since then.
[21:13] <aurora_> k1l_, atm the touchpad dont come back online after suspend. have an extra mouse installed. i read that i can change computer to hibernate instead but that seems to be a workaround more then a fix.
[21:13] <letuschat29_> it's a big deal
[21:13] <aurora_> k1l_, no, still same after that.
[21:14] <k1l_> letuschat29_: stop that.
[21:14] <letuschat29_> ok
[21:14] <letuschat29_> sorry
[21:14] <letuschat29_> i was just kidding
[21:15] <aurora_> seemed like nothing happened when i ran that command
[21:16] <k1l_> aurora_: there are issues with resume for some hardware if the hardware is not ready when the driver wants to start it. so best is to look out for the exact hardware used and if there is a known fix
[21:18] <OnkelTem> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/c8C3AgQE
[21:18] <aurora_> any tips on where i can read more about? i have a asus f302l laptop
[21:19] <k1l_> OnkelTem: so took you so long to full your ram now :) but there is still 3 gb free ;p
[21:21] <OnkelTem> k1l_: yes :) It is a set of docker images - solr, postgis, mysql - very heavy stuff
[21:21] <OnkelTem> k1l_: btw, seems that htop doesn't print that 3GB value anywhere
[21:22] <OnkelTem> because it counts buffers always
[21:22] <pukapy> Roses are blue;Violets are red;if u ever let me;well i post on youtube
[21:25] <lettuce45> what have you done to the kernel? sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-extra-4.2.0-16-generic takes just miliseconds instead of 20 seconds to get rid of outdated images
[21:27] <rco> I'm trying to set up DNS caching as a local service on ubuntu server 14.04. Is there a most popular option? NSCD looked to be the simplest choice but I've heard awful things about its reliability.
[21:28] <spartan2276> I'm having a tough time installing Ubuntu-Gmone 15.10 on RAID 0 Drive as it keeps hanging on creating /boot take a look at the image https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz2E21JweMDPNGIyOXBjdmtZMDg/view
[21:29] <frite> is it problematic to abort a build? like for opencv?
[21:29] <bivo> isthere a legit repo for qtadb?
[21:29] <frite> or will a rebuild just overwriter
[21:29] <spartan2276> yes I posted this also on ubuntu-gnome but no one has answered
[21:30] <howudodat> frite: in general building from source just overwrites. you can also do a make clean to remove any intermediate files from the build
[21:32] <x_> hello i need help
[21:32] <x_> anyone?
[21:33] <x_> anyone there? i need help urgent please
[21:33] <aurora_> thanks for all the help. much appreciated =) cya later =)
[21:33] <bekks> !ask | x_
[21:33] <howudodat> bivo: looks like you just download from their site
[21:34] <Jazzy_J> x_, State the nature of your problem.
[21:34] <x_> i had windows 8 installed and windows 10 parallely. boot loader as installed in windows 8. after formatting windows 8 i installed ubuntu on that partition . now im not able to see the os selection at the start of computer. how do i go to windows 10 ? please help
[21:34] <x_> i had windows 8 installed and windows 10 parallely. boot loader as installed in windows 8. after formatting windows 8 i installed ubuntu on that partition . now im not able to see the os selection at the start of computer. how do i go to windows 10 ? please help
[21:35] <k1l_> x_: "sudo parted -l" into a pastebin please
[21:35] <x_> kil can you ive me steps
[21:36] <jil> hi
[21:36] <x_> okay kil sending
[21:36] <k1l_> x_: run that command in terminal and copy the output to paste.ubuntu.com then click on send, and give the new url here
[21:36] <jil> my syslog is full of the following warning. /usr/sbin/irqbalance: WARNING, didn't collect load info for all cpus, balancing is broken
[21:36] <jil> what can I do
[21:37] <jil> ? tryed upgrading.
[21:37] <livtyler> does anyone have experience with samba as PDC?
[21:38] <bekks> livtyler: I bet people do - but how does that solve your actuall issue?
[21:38] <x_> http://pastebin.com/FTeC2FRx
[21:38] <x_> kil >> here http://pastebin.com/FTeC2FRx
[21:38] <jil> It's been like that for several week
[21:38] <livtyler> bekks: well, I need to know if samba last release still interfaces with LDAP or not
[21:39] <k1l_> x_: are you sure ubuntu is installed there?
[21:39] <bekks> livtyler: Sure, why would that have changed?
[21:39] <x_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13302697/
[21:39] <x_> yes i am using ubuntu
[21:39] <livtyler> bekks: I think kerberos was replacing it
[21:39] <x_> 3 partitions : data, windows X, ubuntu
[21:40] <k1l_> x_: did you install ubuntu on ext2?
[21:40] <x_> ext4 i guess
[21:40] <livtyler> bekks: I need to have an Active Directory based in Samba for Friday night, is it complicated?
[21:40] <k1l_> x_: no ext4 there
[21:41] <k1l_> x_: can you pastebin a "mount" please?
[21:41] <x_> okay
[21:41] <bekks> livtyler: If you've never done it before - yes.
[21:41] <x_> what do i type in terminal> "mount"?
[21:41] <livtyler> livtyler: what's the most difficult part to configure?
[21:41] <x_> kil can you message in private chat?
[21:41] <k1l_> x_: yes
[21:42] <x_> kil >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13302759/
[21:44] <howudodat> jil: are you running in a VM?
[21:46] <x_> kil : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13302759/
[21:47] <jil> howudodat: OpenVZ I think
[21:48] <jil> I have an old kernel, although my packages are up to date
[21:48] <bekks> jil: Only the version number seems to be quite old, but that doesnt tell you anything about which patches are contained.
[21:49] <howudodat> jil: I believe openvz recommends to disable irqbalance
[21:49] <jil> kernel 2.6.32 but jeessie rep.
[21:49] <jil> ok howudodat disable irqbalance ?
[21:49] <bekks> jessie repo?
[21:49] <jil> yes bekks
[21:50] <bekks> Thats not an Ubuntu server, isnt it?
[21:50] <x_> i had windows 8 installed and windows 10 parallely. boot loader as installed in windows 8. after formatting windows 8 i installed ubuntu on that partition . now im not able to see the os selection at the start of computer. how do i go to windows 10 ? please help
[21:50] <x_> i had windows 8 installed and windows 10 parallely. boot loader as installed in windows 8. after formatting windows 8 i installed ubuntu on that partition . now im not able to see the os selection at the start of computer. how do i go to windows 10 ? please help
[21:51] <howudodat> jil: sudo update-rc irqbalance disable
[21:51] <x_> i had windows 8 installed and windows 10 parallely. boot loader as installed in windows 8. after formatting windows 8 i installed ubuntu on that partition . now im not able to see the os selection at the start of computer. how do i go to windows 10 ? please help
[21:52] <genii> howudodat: I believe you want update-rc.d and not just update-rc
[21:52] <x_> i had windows 8 installed and windows 10 parallely. boot loader as installed in windows 8. after formatting windows 8 i installed ubuntu on that partition . now im not able to see the os selection at the start of computer. how do i go to windows 10 ? please help
[21:52] <howudodat> genii: jil: correct...sorry
[21:52] <k1l_> x_: dont spam in here
[21:52] <k1l_> x_: run a "sudo update-grub"
[21:53] <nepraX> hello everyone, I am running photorec on a drive, and its output is so far a single .mpg file, that gets larger every second (currently 80gb!) is there a way to decompose this file, which obviously contains other files?
[21:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> x_ if you aren't given an option to select an OS when booting, you may need to reinstall grub altogether.
[21:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> x_ http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[21:55] <x_> kil http://paste.ubuntu.com/13302861/
[21:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> nepraX http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/mpegdemux.1.html
[21:57] <howudodat> How can I figure out why nvidia-346 depends on nvidia-352? or is there a different channel to ask in (other than #nvidia)
[21:59] <jil> yes its debian
[21:59] <bekks> jil: And this not the Debian support ;)
[21:59] <nigSwan> I used to have a boyfriend named "ubuntu" once
[21:59] <nigSwan> he used to "play the bongos" on my ass
[21:59] <jil> thx howudodat genii
[22:00] <nepraX> SeriouslyLaugh, but would this command work with my file, considering it is not an authentic mpg file, but rather one that is so big because of all sorts of files stuffed in it by photorec?
[22:01] <ubuntunewbie> can anyone assist me with resolving an issue with mdadm not assembling arrays automatically at boot on 15.10 ?
[22:03] <ash_work> how do you bind a process to loopback? (I'm happy for someone to just point me to general documentation on binding)
[22:06] <ash_work> maybe I misspoke
[22:07] <howudodat> nepraX: I believe this is how photorec works...you need to allow the process to continue to completion, iirc. It's been ages since I have used it though.
[22:07] <ash_work> my editor is listening on ipv6 ... I'm trying to get it to listen on ipv4... someone in ##networking was telling me that I might be able to "explicity bind to 0.0.0.0 or an available ipv4 interface" but I don't know where to begin with that
[22:13] <Chaser_> ash_work: I don't think there is a way to bind a process to ipv4 with out doing it at socket level. May be your editor (?) has some option to disable ipv6. If not you can prevent getting ipv6 address by editing /etc/gai.conf and uncomment the line which says "precedence ::ffff:0:0/96 100
[22:19] <RonWhoCares> What program should I use to record audio
[22:20] <nepraX> howudodat, yes, it creates oversized files, too, along with regularly recovered ones
[22:20] <fusa24> is there a limit for hard drives for ubuntu?
[22:21] <tonyyarusso> fusa24: What do you mean?
[22:21] <genii> fusa24: Whatever the limit of your hardware is
[22:21] <fusa24> I have 7 hard drvies installed, trying to install 1 more, but I cant get ubuntu to boot
[22:22] <KDG-mac> ubuntu is best ! :D hello all here
[22:22] <genii> fusa24: Your power supply may not have enough juice
[22:22] <tonyyarusso> fusa24: That sounds like either a limitation in basic hardware stuff like power as genii mentioned, or maybe a BIOS thing, not an OS thing.
[22:23] <fusa24> I get into the command line at the beginning of boot
[22:23] <KDG-mac> on ubuntu?
[22:23] <fusa24> trying to find the errors in logs
[22:23] <jpds_> fusa24: Have you checked your power usage and what your PSU does?
[22:23] <jdangle> Hey guys I have a server, no changes, we just rebooted (ubuntu 12.04). It boots instantly into a black screen (and pings) but ssh never seems to come up. I can select the recovery kernel, and drop into read only shell, everything is there/fine with grub.. I tried quiet splash nomodeset etc.. what am I missing :)
[22:24] <genii> fusa24: It's possible you re-ordered the boot sequence by adding the last one, so that it tries to boot a different drive than it was before
[22:24] <fusa24> I checked BIOS, the new hdd was the last listed
[22:24] <knuto> how can i create a pattern for directories that are one level above? say i'm in /dir/server/ and i want to match /dir/src/? i need to modify this glob: '!{app.js,{src,common,lib}/**}' but eg. '!{app.js,../{src,common,lib}/**}' doesnt work
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> knuto sounds more for #bash
[22:33] <knuto> monkeydust: ok thanks
[22:38] <KDG-mac> MonkeyDust: so bash got a channel?
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> KDG-mac yes, simply type /j #bash
[22:40] <KDG-mac> cool :)
[22:40] <KDG-mac> this channel only for support talks?
[22:41] <genii> KDG-mac: Tha is correct
[22:41] <KDG-mac> aw
[22:41] <KDG-mac> does ubuntu got a free chat room?
[22:42] <genii> KDG-mac: There is this channel for support issues, and #ubuntu-offtopic for more casual conversation
[22:43] <DzAirmaX> hi everybody
[22:43] <KDG-mac> oki thx
[22:43] <KDG-mac> bye then
[22:44] <DzAirmaX> someone knows how to make some temporary space on the hdd for doing a release upgrade ?
[22:44] <KDG-mac> thx MonkeyDust genii
[22:45] <genii> DzAirmaX: Much depends on how the drive is currently partitioned, and if there is another drive in the computer with partitions which could be used temporarily
[22:46] <DzAirmaX> genii : Can I use a second drive for making the upgrade ?
[22:46] <fusa24> jpds_ what is the best way to check the power usage of a computer, just checked what the PSU is, its 500W, so might be the issue
[22:46] <ash_work> Chaser_: alas, it still bound to tcp6
[22:47] <ash_work> Chaser_: but thanks for the suggestion
[22:50] <genii> DzAirmaX: You can do something like copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/ on the drive with limited space onto a directory on a larger drive, then bind-mount /var/cache/apt to that other directory. Also you clean up unneeded kernels in the /boot directory
[22:50] <nuno_nunes> hi goodnight
[22:50] <nuno_nunes> :)
[22:51] <DzAirmaX> genii : I cleaned them already but I am really limit, I need 300 megs more for finishing the upgrade
[22:52] <genii> DzAirmaX: So it is specifically saying that /boot is full?
[22:53] <DzAirmaX> not /boot just /
[22:54] <DzAirmaX> I have 735 Mb for making the update, apparently I need 350 Mb more ...
[22:54] <blb2919> DzAirmaX: get some space by 'sudo apt-get clean'
[22:55] <DzAirmaX> yup
[22:56] <blb2919> DzairmaX: purge all kernels except the current one
[22:57] <k1l_> DzAirmaX: did you run some "apt-get autoremove"?
[22:57] <eightiesk> !wireless
[22:57] <blb2919> DzAirmaX: https://github.com/dustinkirkland/bikeshed/blob/master/purge-old-kernels
[22:57] <eightiesk> !wine
[22:58] <eightiesk> !!virtualizers
[22:58] <blb2919> eightiesk: stop that
[22:58] <teward> eightiesk: do you need help? If not, please either query the bot in PM, or use #ubuntu-bots
[22:59] <DzAirmaX> I used this tutorial : http://askubuntu.com/questions/5980/how-do-i-free-up-disk-space
[22:59] <ash_work> Chaser_: so, the only way an application could explicitly listen on a particular IP is if the application itself had a setting for that (or if you do some fancy socket stuff?)
[23:00] <ash_work> Chaser_: I tried uncommenting that line, but IPv6 still turned up with a `netstat -tupln`
[23:00] <k1l_> DzAirmaX: what is "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" and "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers"
[23:00] <k1l_> DzAirmaX: and how much is the disk space at all?
[23:00] <blb2919> DzAirmaX: in your home dir do 'du -sh * | sort -h' and check what takes space (if your home and root partitions are on the same drive of course)
[23:01] <DzAirmaX> blb2919 : usr , lib and var
[23:02] <DzAirmaX> k1l_ : 2.4 Gb
[23:02] <DzAirmaX> small small xD
[23:02] <k1l_> DzAirmaX: too small
[23:03] <howudodat> ash_work: it depends on what you are trying to do. in general an application has to bind() to an interface and port. Although that can be wildcarded. That is something that cannot be changed or influenced externally.
[23:04] <ash_work> howudodat: hmm... I really don't know where to even look for advice on this then
[23:04] <DzAirmaX> k1l_ : first I wanted to change the sixe of the /boot partition but it looks like too much work (GPT)
[23:04] <howudodat> ash_work: however you can use ncat to help out a bit. for example I use ncat to forward from one machine to another, the command looks like: ncat -l ipaddress port -c ncat ip address port
[23:05] <ash_work> howudodat: hmm... I think the address is ::::9000
[23:05] <DzAirmaX> k1l_ : now I am thinking to use ramdisk or another partition like genii said for bind the /var/vache/apt
DzAirmaX: what is "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" and "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers"
[23:05] <howudodat> ash_work: for example ncat 1.1.1.1 25 -c ncat 2.2.2.2 1025 ncat will listen on interface 1.1.1.1 port 25 and any connections that come in will be forwarded to ip 2.2.2.2 on port 1025.
[23:06] <DzAirmaX> k1l_ : my kernel installed manually ...
[23:06] <howudodat> ash_work: give me a sec to see if I can craft a similar one for you
[23:06] <DzAirmaX> k1l_ : I have so much space I am installing them by hand
[23:06] <k1l_> DzAirmaX: …
[23:06] <DzAirmaX> less*
[23:06] <DzAirmaX> not much sorry
[23:06] <ash_work> howudodat: so in my case: ncat -l :::: 9000 -c ncat 0.0.0.0 9000 ?
[23:07] <DzAirmaX> ./purge-kernel.sh =>> No kernels are eligible for removal
[23:08] <Exagone313> Hi, I can not anymore use screen, it always says Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check. What do I do?Thanks for your help.
[23:08] <howudodat> ash_work: no. the first part is your "helper". so: ncat -l 127.0.0.1 9000 will make ncat listen on localhost port 9000. you can just do ncat -l 9000 if you want it to listen on all interfaces. but make sure you dont have anything listening ipv4 port 9000
[23:08] <blb2919> DzAirmax: you start it with the --keep=1 right?
[23:09] <ash_work> howudodat: ok
[23:09] <DzAirmaX> blb2919 : nope ...
[23:09] <howudodat> ash_work: I think what you want is ncat -4 -l 9000 -c ncat -6 localhost 9000
[23:09] <ash_work> howudodat: can I get ncat using apt-get?
[23:09] <DzAirmaX> blb2919 : I got only 1 kernel on this machine
[23:10] <blb2919> well then it won't help
[23:10] <mgolisch> Exagone313: did you change users?
[23:10] <howudodat> ash_work: good question, I am not sure the package for ncat, it's already on my system
[23:10] <Exagone313> mgolisch: what do you mean?
[23:10] <mgolisch> Exagone313: like you sued to root or something
[23:10] * ash_work is depressed
[23:11] <Exagone313> the problem is '1' is pwned bny the wrong user
[23:11] <Exagone313> owned*
[23:11] <blb2919> DzAirmaX: you may also remove all *.gz in the /var/log
[23:11] <Exagone313> idk why it uses 1 and not 4 the good one
[23:11] <howudodat> ash_work: try package netcat
[23:12] <Exagone313> you know what? i just change the owner and it works fine
[23:12] <ash_work> howudodat: it was nmap
[23:12] <Exagone313> i'll do it next time
[23:13] <DzAirmaX> blb2919 : done, where you I try to grind 200 mmb more ?
[23:13] <ash_work> howudodat: Ncat: Got more than one port specification: 9000 localhost 9000. QUITTING.
[23:15] <blb2919> DzAirmaX: du -sh ~/*
[23:17] <howudodat> ash_work: I just tested this and it works (sorry forgot the quotes). ncat -4 -l 9999 -c "ncat -6 localhost 9999"
[23:18] <DzAirmaX> blb2919 : The upgrade has aborted. The upgrade needs a total of 923 M free space on disk '/'. Please free at least an additional 433 M of disk
[23:19] <k1l_> DzAirmaX: why do you want to keep this 2,4GB system? that will make problems on next update anyway. make it a proper setup
[23:20] <Codmadnesspro> I can't find a working fix for the error "update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header
[23:20] <Codmadnesspro> " when running "sudo update-rc.d ts3 defaults"
[23:22] <DzAirmaX> k1l_ : yeah you are right
[23:22] <sruli> how do i disable guest login in GDM (gnome ubuntu 15.10)
[23:28] <allegorical> i'm having trouble to install canon mp250 drivers on my lubuntu system (ubuntu 15.04). i have downloaded from http://support-sg.canon-asia.com/contents/SG/EN/0100236101.html and ran the ./install.sh but still nothing.... any ideas? i noticed that this driver lists "ubuntu 10.04", does this make a difference?
[23:29] <ash_work> howudodat: so the ncat command seems to be running
[23:29] <ash_work> howudodat: but I still get tcp6 0 0 :::9000 :::* LISTEN 26950/atom --type=r
[23:30] <howudodat> ash_work...yes the original program needs to listen somehwere. all ncat is doing is bridging a IP4 connection for you over to the editor's existing ip6 connection
[23:31] <ash_work> howudodat: oh right
[23:31] <ash_work> okay
[23:31] <ash_work> howudodat: well xdebug still says I: Remote address found, connecting to 172.17.0.1:9000. E: Time-out connecting to client. :-(
[23:32] <ash_work> howudodat: I don't know what to try now :\
[23:32] <howudodat> ash_work: pastebin sudo netstat -anp for me
[23:33] <howudodat> ash_work: are you trying to run atom-live-server?
[23:34] <ash_work> howudodat: no
[23:34] <ash_work> howudodat: I just have php-debug installed (on atom)
[23:34] <ash_work> I'm running xdebug on a docker container
[23:36] <allegorical> arg this thing seems to need libtiff4
[23:36] <ash_work> howudodat: http://hastebin.com/mijokutozi.hs
[23:40] <howudodat> ash_work: your ncat client is listening on port 9999, that needs to be 9000.
[23:40] <howudodat> ash_work: I was testing port 9999
[23:40] <ash_work> howudodat: oh
[23:41] <allegorical> seems to work now, thanks
[23:42] <howudodat> ash_work: ncat -4 -l 9000 -c "ncat -6 localhost 9000"
[23:43] <ash_work> howudodat: I don't get it; it threw an error, to which I clicked on and it showed a gist of the error with a comment requesting that person close other processes using ::::9000 ... which says to me people expect it to use IPv6 despite xdebugs incompatibility. I assume this is handled somehow, but now I am just shooting in the dark
[23:49] <howudodat> ash_work: sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only returns what?
[23:50] <ash_work> net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0
[23:51] <araph> hello everyone, I am trying to install ubuntu on hdd, and the remaining free space becomes shown 'unusable' when I create its partition. this will be the third system on the drive, plus the swap space partition. I know that max. 4 primary partitions are allowed, but I also tried to create the OS partition as 'logical' yet it didnt solve the problem.
[23:52] <Gnjurac> how to shutdown in 50 mins shutdown -h +m50 dosent work
[23:53] <howudodat> ash_work: ok, that's correct. I need to take a step back on your problem. tell me the original symptom
[23:54] <Chaser> Gnjurac: +50 (with out m)
[23:54] <Gnjurac> it istant shutdowns on fedora
[23:55] <frostschutz> araph, what does it look like in `sudo parted /dev/disk unit s print free`, can you put it in a pastebin?
[23:55] <ash_work> howudodat: I don't think you can help me honestly :{ xdebug is not working with atom and docker; xdebug log gives: I: Remote address found, connecting to 172.17.0.1:9000. E: Time-out connecting to client. :-( `netstat -tupln` shows atom listening on ::::9000 .... :: shrug ::
[23:56] <k1l_> Gnjurac: this is not #fedora :)
[23:56] <Gnjurac> fedora no replay
[23:56] <Gnjurac> i have to beg other palces
[23:56] <k1l_> Gnjurac: then ask in ##linux
[23:57] <araph> frostschutz, I think (I hope) I solved it. I deleted the swap space, and then tried again to partition. this time the unallocated space remained as free space.
[23:58] <Gnjurac> i am
[23:58] <Gnjurac> haahah
[23:58] <Gnjurac> on all palces
[23:59] <howudodat> ash_work: if you do telnet 172.17.0.1 9000 what happens? what happens if you do telnet localhost 9000 ?
[23:59] <ash_work> howudodat: from the local host?
[23:59] <ash_work> ernenar p
[23:59] <araph> frostschutz, I have another problem with swap space on another machine. I must have overlooked that it reverted to 'unknown' space while installing my system, and now there is no swap space on the drive. could I just start run an installer usb, and assign the referred space as 'swap area' now, or would this break existing systems on the hdd?
[23:59] <ash_work> howudodat: sorry
[23:59] <ash_work> howudodat: I mean from the container, right?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-quality
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[18:39] <dkessel> ping aling
[18:43] <flocculant> who's aling?
[18:44] <flocculant> :p
[19:29] <dkessel> oh right. I meant ping balloons :p
[19:30] <flocculant> :D
[20:07] <dkessel> btw after i used autopilot3 vis a few times on mousepad, autopilot got really unstable, and it logged some X server related drawing errors. i only got autopilot better after logging out and back on.
[20:07] <dkessel> other than that and the autopilot-types-in-another-keyboard-layout bug it was fun
[20:08] <dkessel> at least i got it to write something and to compare the text with an expected result
[20:08] <flocculant> \o/
[20:08] <dkessel> anyway, cya the other day. maybe.
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:40] <^k^> Niac: 拜金装土豪.
[01:35] <^k^> 新 字体美化和中文支持 • Ubuntu14.04如何在终端下无法输出中文 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473888 我装的是Ubuntu14.04, 在图形界面状态下，无论是使用桌面状态，还是使用Terminator, 都可以正常的显示及输入中文，但在使用Ctrl+Alt+F1进入系统多用户终端时，就无法显示和输入中
[01:35] <^k^> ─> 文了，不知道在此情况下，应该如何设置，望赐教为谢。 zz: feibob — 2015-11-16 9:35
[01:41] <onlylove> test
[01:41] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 09:38
[01:42] <^k^> hceasy: 拜哭熊
[01:42] <hceasy> ...
[01:43] <onlylove> 貌似这个网段的网络没问题
[01:45] <onlylove> hceasy: 哭熊你为何如此难过
[01:46] <hceasy> onlylove: 刚开机就拜我 ..
[02:10] <^k^> 新 开源模板库 • 中长篇书籍模板 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473889 英文原版： http://templates.libreoffice.org/templa ... for-a-book 我把英文改成为了中文，某些地方加上了注释，以方便初学者掌握，请各位看看哪些地方不够规范的，请修改。 中长篇书籍模板 .ott.txt zz: yq-ysy — 2015
[02:10] <^k^> ─> -11-16 10:10
[02:10] <onlylove_> 这边一样渣，呵呵呵呵，vmware9还不能用vmware10的硬盘，再呵呵下
[02:28] <root__> ccc
[02:33] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • 有没有类似 Cycling 74 Max/Msp （图形化程序编辑）的开源软件？只找到一个Pure Data http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473890 目前 Cycling 74 Max/Msp 在国内大多只是用于对音频的实时操控，还被称为“DJ打碟软件”。 其实如果配上开源硬件 Arduino （单片
[02:33] <^k^> ─> 机），它可以控制几乎所有的电器设备，创造出属于你自己独特的发明。 从截图上看，P …
[02:50] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 求助：Ubuntu15.04版本下CTS测试权限受限 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473891 JDK版本：1.8.0_66 SDK版本：sdk_r24.4.1 CTS测试结束之后有很多android.cts.security.SELinuxNeverallowRulesTest 的fail项。不知道是否是系统的kernel版本太高导致的。急求解决办法。 zz: Ann_
[02:50] <^k^> ─> 南 — 2015-11-16 10:46
[02:53] <^k^> onlylove__: 拜
[03:09] <onlylove__> 用几百年前的git和sourcetree
[03:10] <onlylove__> 这些人真TM能忍
[03:10] <^k^> yurakucho: 拜高帅穷
[03:12] <onlylove__> yurakucho: 拜虚伪高富帅
[03:12] <^k^> onlylove__: ok yurakucho => 拜虚伪高富帅
[03:14] <yurakucho> yurakucho: 拜高帅穷
[03:14] <^k^> yurakucho: ok yurakucho => 拜高帅穷
[03:14] <onlylove__> yurakucho: 你就装
[03:16] <onlylove__> yunfan: 这边的环境还TM不如原来的地方
[03:17] <onlylove__> yunfan: 一个个的都在艰苦卓绝的环境里面工作，真是当代模范劳模
[03:25] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 早啊
[03:25] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 乖
[03:26] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 我以为你不上 irc 了呢
[03:30] <yurakucho> MangHuo: Mac太难用, 切换, 提醒什么的都麻烦, 确实懒得上了感觉
[03:36] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 不是还有webchat可以用么，虽然弱了点
[03:36] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 装个 linux 用啊
[03:36] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 你这是懒得上，我这是想上，呵呵，就这样
[03:36] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 他好像装了
[03:36] <onlylove_> test
[03:36] <ubrl> onlylove_:点点点. 11:33
[03:36] <MangHuo> lol
[03:37] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 最近有见到牛牛姐么
[03:37] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 我装虚拟机，卡在扫描软件源了，因为，要联网
[03:37] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 最近有见啊，上周还见来着
[03:37] <MangHuo> onlylove_: ....
[03:37] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 哦，她来了我请教个问题
[03:37] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 很多Mac特有的东西, vpn, airplay啥的, 装linux麻烦, 我只能调整快捷键 外加只用终端和firefox了
[03:37] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 终端用irssi嘛
[03:38] <MangHuo> airplay 是做啥用的我一直没明白
[03:38] <yurakucho> onlylove_: 是在用irssi
[03:38] <MangHuo> 到现在还是不会用
[03:38] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 不知道weechat有没有mac办
[03:38] <yurakucho> onlylove_: homebrew里有
[03:38] <MangHuo> onlylove_: mac 的 qq 都有
[03:39] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 羡慕啊
[03:39] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 你用过就不羡慕了
[03:39] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 那qq就一弱鸡，就和当年linux qq那熊样
[03:39] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 不是吧...
[03:39] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 比起windows版，简直就是 dos 和windows的差别
[03:40] <MangHuo> ...
[03:40] <MangHuo> 有这么夸张
[03:43] <onlylove__> test
[03:43] <ubrl> onlylove__:点点点. 11:40
[03:44] <onlylove____> test
[03:44] <ubrl> onlylove____:点点点. 11:41
[03:45] <onlylove____> 喵咪咪的，餐厅难吃到死，网络渣到爆，这么多人怎么忍的
[03:49] <onlylove_> 让我暴打IT一顿吧
[03:50] <onlylove_> test
[03:50] <ubrl> onlylove_:点点点. 11:48
[03:51] <onlylove_> 都装了git了，还要安装source tree，这群人得多弱鸡
[03:52] <yunfan> onlylove_: 你换地方了 ?
[03:53] <onlylove> yunfan: 准确点说是海辉，文思的项目貌似是tibco
[03:53] <onlylove> yunfan: 哦，换了个项目组……还在文思
[03:54] <onlylove> test
[03:54] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 11:51
[03:54] <onlylove> yunfan: 这边网络简直了
[03:55] <onlylove> 我已经放弃了
[03:55] <onlylove> 这公司我估计，留下来的都是有房贷的拖家带口的
[03:55] <onlylove> 没了工作没法交月供的
[04:02] <onlylove> debian7的镜像可能老了没法用了，换arch试试吧……
[04:02] <onlylove> 不对，arch我也没新镜像
[04:04] <onlylove> 一月份的……但愿能用
[04:14] <^k^> 新 因特网相关软件 • 为何ed2k资源的下载不同平台差距10倍速度？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473892 同样是ed2k资源，win7下面的迅雷下载居然比ubuntu下面的amule快10倍？ 迅雷比amule优异这么多吗？ zz: pengsir — 2015-11-16 12:13
[04:18] <onlylove__> 放弃！
[04:18] <onlylove__> 没法玩
[04:18] <onlylove__> test
[04:18] <ubrl> onlylove__:点点点. 12:15
[04:23] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 视网膜显示器爽不..
[04:48] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 不敢看, 一直用外接 Apple LED Display 27"
[04:53] <onlylove_> source tree根本装不上，呵呵，who can who up
[04:58] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • 谁有最新的conky天气脚本？不要conky-colors的～请大神传一个。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473893 RT zz: majormeng — 2015-11-16 12:56
[05:02] <MangHuo> yunfan: 27" 也是视网膜吧
[05:03] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 让你偷懒，圈错人了吧
[05:05] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 谁知道他下下线了
[05:26] <^k^> ooOO_OOoo: 拜RH大中华区首席测试官
[05:36] <knownbad> Test
[05:36] <ubrl> knownbad:点点点. 13:33
[05:36] <knownbad> 测试
[05:36] <ubrl> knownbad:点点点. 13:33
[05:36] <Stawidy> 什么鬼
[05:41] <onlylove_> 还以为是内部服务器，喵咪咪的早知道是github我费那力气
[05:44] <CyrusYzGTt> github 直接 fork
[05:44] <onlylove_> 刚装的opensuse重启下没了！
[05:44] <onlylove_> 没了！
[05:44] <onlylove_> 公司项目，fork毛线
[05:44] <onlylove_> 直接搞
[05:48] <onlylove_> 我怀疑是自己忘了装loader
[06:11] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 声卡/显卡驱动问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473894 硬件为USB外置5.1声道声卡与Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460核心显卡。 而系统识别出来的硬件信息，我看不懂是什么含义，表现出来为，系统没有声音，且视频无法启动硬件加速，都是CPU软解视频。网上一阵搜索
[07:00] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • Help ,Ubuntu 链接到 Netapp NAS File Server要怎么做批处理文件 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473895 Ubuntu 链接到 Netapp NAS File Server上，每次重开机后，需要使用者key in 帐号密码，有写fstab但是不成功，路过的大虾请帮忙指点，感谢 zz: parly — 2015-11-16 14:49
[07:10] <onlylove> 都说老外发音头疼，我发现中国人发音更麻烦
[07:10] <onlylove> 我用了一天理解git和resolved这俩单词
[07:29] <lxh112210> 有没有人碰到在GNOME下不能调节屏幕亮度的
[07:30] <vickycq> 其它桌面能调节亮度么
[07:31] <lxh112210> 不知道，至少KDE和Xfce4没有问题
[07:31] <lxh112210> 我是说用Fn调
[07:32] <lxh112210> GNOME使用acpi_backlight，但是KDE和xfce可以使用intel_backlight
[07:32] <hceasy> lxh112210: 碰到过.
[07:32] <hceasy> lxh112210: 改GRUB 里面一些参数可以 后来又不行了.
[07:33] <lxh112210> 什么在gnome加参数的，都是过了，无效
[07:33] <lxh112210> grub加参数
[07:34] <vickycq> 能不能通过加内核参数 去掉一个亮度界面
[07:34] <hceasy> lxh112210: 所以我说后来不管用了啊 然后就没再折腾过.
[07:34] <lxh112210> 呃，晚上会亮瞎眼睛哦
[07:35] <lxh112210> acpi_backlight什么的添加了，没有效果的
[07:37] <vickycq> 有关内核参数好几个的，都试试。组合试试
[07:37] <vickycq> acpi_backlight=vendor
[07:37] <vickycq> video.use_native_backlight=1
[07:37] <vickycq> acpi_osi=Linux
[07:38] <lxh112210> 这个两个试过了，无效的
[07:38] <lxh112210> 死活只用acpi_backlight
[07:38] <vickycq> 还有几个老帖子说 xorg.conf 的
[07:38] <lxh112210> xorg。conf。d的吧，我也添加了
[07:40] <lxh112210> 难道是gnome的bug吗
[07:43] <yurakucho> 是gnome的bug 别乱改内核参数, 你们说的那个参数不应该乱改...
[07:44] <vickycq> 启动时临时加参数测试 无所谓
[07:44] <vickycq> 一重启就没了
[07:44] <lxh112210> TT，真是bug啊，历史好像很悠久了
[07:45] <lxh112210> 我就说，KDE和xfce都可以，大GNOME怎么就坑在这里了
[07:46] <vickycq> 可否不用 gnome-power-manager
[07:47] <lxh112210> 电源管理的问题吗
[07:47] <vickycq> bug 是不是 gnome-power-manager 乱用 acpi_video0
[07:48] <vickycq> 而且奇怪，用了acpi_backlight=vendor 后不应该出现 acpi_video0
[07:48] <lxh112210> 我的i
[07:49] <vickycq> ls /sys/class/backlight
[07:49] <lxh112210> 我的i卡，同时有acpi和intel，有什么奇怪的啊
[07:55] <gfxmode> 周末从KDE4升级到KDE5，各种不适应
[07:56] <lxh112210> 我在xorg.conf.d添加了conf的话，就可以调节KDE和xfce的亮度了
[07:56] <lxh112210> GNOME还是不行
[07:57] <vickycq> 好像后来 电源管理的部分功能跑到 GNOME Settings Daemon 里了
[07:57] <vickycq> 那就没辙了...
[08:11] * tryit xfce不需要太折腾，能干活就行～
[08:14] <gebjgd> tryit, lxde不是更好
[08:16] <tryit> gebjgd, xfce对gnome软件的兼容性更好点，都可以
[08:16] <gebjgd> tryit, 有什么兼容不兼容的
[08:40] * yurakucho 困
[08:41] <cherrot> yurakucho, 买买买
[08:43] <yurakucho> cherrot: 买啥哦...
[08:55] * yurakucho 终于看懂了一点代码, 一堆堆的异常处理, 改起来要死要死要死
[08:58] <tryit> yurakucho, 我现在看的一层层的py……
[09:00] <gebjgd> tryit, pycharm
[09:00] <yunfan> yurakucho: 现在混的如何
[09:01] <yurakucho> yunfan: 渣 啥都不会
[09:02] <tryit> gebjgd, 恩，是的
[09:02] <tryit> gebjgd, 关键是py是动态语言
[09:02] <tryit> gebjgd, 我习惯性地去找类似于struct的东西……
[09:02] <gebjgd> tryit, 这是病
[09:05] <yunfan> yurakucho: 干嘛要跳？ 为了年薪double?还是出国啊
[09:06] <yurakucho> yunfan: 没怎么涨 没得出国 时间更紧了还
[09:11] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 特逗的小学生笑爆你 : 上完地理课后,老师问一小学生:"你这节课的收获是什么?"小学生:"最大的收获就是让我觉得老师比我爸爸聪明。"老师笑笑说:"说说看。"小学生:"我爸爸喝了酒才知道地球在不停地转动,而您不喝酒就知道了。"
[09:19] <yurakucho> cherrot: 你怎么上班? 公交? 路上多长时间?
[09:32] <cherrot> yurakucho, 公交 uber 20min吧
[09:32] <yunfan> yurakucho: 那你干嘛跳
[09:33] <cherrot> yurakucho, 中关村3桥坑爹的设计总得堵一会儿
[09:33] <yurakucho> cherrot: 窝的uber莫名被封, 玩不起啊
[09:33] <yurakucho> yunfan: 为了给自己点压力
[09:33] <cherrot> yurakucho, 原来你喜欢被压
[09:34] <yurakucho> cherrot: 不喜欢, 感觉不好
[09:35] <cherrot> yurakucho, 你现在住哪呢
[09:35] <yurakucho> cherrot: 朝阳公园, 月底到期
[09:38] <DevOps> 非交互安装，有没有推荐的文章。1.交互密码，2.fronttype 3.--force 无效了。
[09:38] <DevOps> 求求各位，谢谢！
[09:45] <yunfan> yurakucho: 你越来越土共了
[09:45] <yurakucho> yunfan: 为毛骂我
[09:45] <yunfan> yurakucho: 只是觉得你学得跟他们一样狡猾了
[09:46] <yunfan> 闪烁其词 哼哼
[09:46] <yurakucho> yunfan: 我正经说的
[09:49] <DevOps> 额
[09:49] <yunfan> yurakucho: 你这根本是玩虚的 没透露什么信息嘛
[09:50] <yurakucho> yunfan: 看pm
[10:40] <iLucky> 怎么感觉ff上的pocket越来越难用了
[10:48] <iLucky> 现在ff是不是已经自带pocket了？
[11:05] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS • 哪个版本ubuntu支持网站视频播放？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473896 ？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-16 19:04
[11:11] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS • Firefox浏览器，怎样安装AutoProxy？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473897 安装命令？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-16 19:10
[11:54] <longlongago> lainme: 牛牛，你知道玩日服游戏需要手机验证这个怎么绕过去吗？ 我没日本手机卡
[13:09] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[13:17] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 都不在本班机上 : 各位女士,各位先生,这是机长广播。" 欢迎各位搭乘本公司的班机,我们公司的空服员里, 有很多是民航业界里最称职、最尽心而且最漂亮的。 但是很抱歉,她们今天都不在本班机上。"
[13:46] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[15:35] <donkey1> 大家好，好久没上irc了。
[15:36] <donkey1> :-*
[19:45] <FishOneeyed> 吼一句
[19:45] <FishOneeyed> 有人吗
[19:45] <ubrl> FishOneeyed:点点点. 03:42
[19:45] <FishOneeyed> ubrl: 你是机器人吧
[19:46] <ubrl> FishOneeyed, 我会怎么看起来像如果我有硅的心脏？ 03:43
[19:46] <FishOneeyed> ubrl: 看来没跑了，你就是了。
[19:46] <ubrl> FishOneeyed, 这要看是什么单词的意思是“它”。 03:43
[19:46] <FishOneeyed> ubrl: 那就陪我聊聊天吧
[19:46] <FishOneeyed> 你从哪里来？
[19:46] <ubrl> FishOneeyed, 你喜欢的书籍或电视？ 03:44
[19:47] <FishOneeyed> ubrl: 中国人的性格 你看过吗？
[19:47] <ubrl> FishOneeyed,
[19:48] <FishOneeyed> ubrl: 没看过？
[19:48] <ubrl> FishOneeyed,
[19:48] <FishOneeyed> ubrl: 算了
[19:48] <ubrl> FishOneeyed,
[20:08] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 你蛋疼了？
[20:09] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 好久没来了，也没人陪我聊天
[20:09] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 孩子发烧了。
[20:09] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 带孩子去
[20:09] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 很正常
[20:09] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 睡觉呢，妈妈陪着。
[20:10] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 你孩子现在应该已经不太生病了吧
[20:11] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 偶尔咳嗽
[20:11] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 那还好，一点点大了就好了。
[20:11] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 最近有什么好玩的？
[20:11] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 想出去转转。
[20:12] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 12月回国
[20:12] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 公差？还是，这个时候机票不便宜
[20:12] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 什么时候回来？
[20:12] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 便宜及了
[20:12] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 休假
[20:12] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 多少钱？
[20:12] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 新工作没有出差机会
[20:12] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 550
[20:13] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 那还好，直飞还是转机？我一个同事转机还有500多
[20:13] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 国航直飞
[20:13] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 我无所谓转机 我不愿意坐国航
[20:13] <gebjgd> FishOneeyed, 人多
[20:13] <FishOneeyed> gebjgd: 带孩子还是直飞好
[21:57] <knownbad> 中国民航从洛杉矶-北京的航线超级颠簸。
[21:58] <knownbad> 唯一觉得有点想吐的航班。
[22:00] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我靠 你好久没来了
[22:00] <gebjgd> knownbad, 被老婆吸干了？
[22:00] <knownbad> 我不是我，来也等于没来。
[22:00] <gebjgd> knownbad, 为毛？
[22:01] <knownbad> 心态。
[22:01] <gebjgd> knownbad, 和老婆离婚了？
[22:01] <gebjgd> knownbad, 恭喜！
[22:01] <knownbad> 等着你的女儿。
[22:02] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你慢慢等吧
[22:04] <gebjgd> knownbad, 到底怎么了
[22:04] <gebjgd> knownbad, 说说看
[22:04] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你好久没上线了
[22:06] <knownbad> 没事。 之前用的是Windows 10不想搞得太多。
[22:06] <gebjgd> knownbad, win10那垃圾
[22:15] <gebjgd> knownbad, 装了win10就没有时间上来了？
[22:55] <knownbad> Win10不好使就没这么用。
[23:56] <^k^> 新 深度PK版 • SUSE论坛感觉不太好 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473901 最近在老婆的电脑上装了openSUSE Leap 42.1进行体验，对于一个长时间使用WIndows和Ubuntu的人来说，KDE环境算是比较新奇的了，因此感觉还不错。但是发现在国内，至少从我的感觉上来说(注意哦，只是说我个人
[23:56] <^k^> ─> 的感觉)，42.1遇到的问题在国内搜索，好多都没有找到，比较及时的都是国外的。 注册了 …
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[10:43] <Mirv> jaywink: on older Ubuntus we so far have just provided the Qt Creator + emulator etc, which means the old Ubuntu's older Qt version is used, which explains the problem. Soon everyone will be updated to a new SDK IDE package that contains a whole new Qt version (not conflicting with the system Qt version) too.
[10:44] <jaywink> Mirv, sounds good, thanks for the note! It's good to keep trusty as a valid dev host
[10:45] <Mirv> jaywink: exactly, that's how it will be. just before the upgrade supported run targets are hardware + emulator, not the desktop itself.
[10:45] <Mirv> but that'll soon change too
[13:52] <t1mp> hello there, what did I miss? ;)
[13:54] <ahayzen> t1mp, o/ bug 1514143 ;-)
[13:54] <ubot5`> bug 1514143 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "While searching often times the keyboard hides while typing" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514143
[13:54] <t1mp> ahayzen: I'm on it :)
[13:54] <ahayzen> thanks man :-)
[13:54] <t1mp> ahayzen: victor's analysis was correct, we're a bit too eager to set 'moving' to true internally.
[13:54] <ahayzen> t1mp, is that likely to get into OTA8? :')
[13:55] <t1mp> ahayzen: I have a fix, writing some regression tests now.
[13:55] <t1mp> ahayzen: the fix will be in our staging this week for sure. I am not sure when the next landing to trunk is though
[13:55] <t1mp> when is OTA8?
[13:55] <ahayzen> 'soon', maybe this week :(
[13:55] <t1mp> (I just returned from my holidays, still need to catch up a bit)
[13:55] * ahayzen wonders how many other apps that have already bumped this affects
[13:56] <ahayzen> like any that have a search in the header are likely affected
[13:56] <t1mp> right
[13:57] <t1mp> bzoltan, zsombi: what do I need to do to get a fix in OTA8?
[13:57] <zsombi> t1mp: luck :D
[13:57] <t1mp> and maybe more important, *when* do I need to get it done?
[13:57] <ahayzen> t1mp, buy QA a beer ;-)
[13:57] <zsombi> t1mp: and magic
[13:58] <zsombi> t1mp: OTA8 train has left the building :)
[13:58] <bzoltan> t1mp: You just give me the MR
[13:58] <bzoltan> t1mp: against the trunk not the staging!
[13:58] <t1mp> bzoltan: I don't have the MR yet. I'm working on it. That's why I asked the *when* question.
[13:58] <bzoltan> t1mp: two weeks ago
[13:58] <zsombi> t1mp: ota8 gates are closed for 6 days
[13:59] <bzoltan> zsombi: :) exactly
[13:59] <zsombi> t1mp: so you missed that, ota9 maybe
[13:59] <t1mp> okay. It seems to me then that the fix for bug 1514143 will go to ota9
[13:59] <ubot5`> bug 1514143 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "While searching often times the keyboard hides while typing" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514143
[13:59] <ahayzen> t1mp, does the address-book have a search? as it may affect that
[14:01] <ahayzen> t1mp, hmm address-book is fine when you search
[14:01] <t1mp> ahayzen: the address book has a locked header, and I think locked headers are not affected
[14:01] <ahayzen> ahhh thats why
[14:01] <t1mp> the problem occurs when the flickable contents height changes
[14:01] <ahayzen> ok that makes sense
[14:01] <t1mp> ahayzen: so I'll have it fixed soon, but too late for OTA8
[14:02] <ahayzen> :-/
[14:02] <t1mp> ahayzen: you could temporarily lock your header
[14:02] <ahayzen> t1mp, yeah was about to say as a workaround, when entering search we could lock the header
[14:03] <ahayzen> t1mp, ok we'll do that then until OTA9 :-)
[14:03] <t1mp> okay, cool
[14:03] <t1mp> sorry for the breakage. I'll add a regression test so it won't happen again.
[14:05] <t1mp> bzoltan: I'll make the MR for staging and hopefully we can land that for OTA9
[14:05] <ahayzen> t1mp, thanks
[14:06] <bzoltan> t1mp: if that is fine with pmcgowan then it is good
[14:06] <t1mp> pmcgowan: ^ can the fix for bug 1514143 go to OTA9?
[14:06] <ubot5`> bug 1514143 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "While searching often times the keyboard hides while typing" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514143
[14:25] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, once you have the fix we can decide whether to hotfix or wait for the ota, will see what QA things
[14:28] <bzoltan> pmcgowan: Thanks! I agree.
[14:28] <bzoltan> t1mp: so just watch out to make it in a way that we can retarget if needed
[14:28] <t1mp> okay
[15:14] <popey> balloons, jenkins looks unwell.. lots of clocks https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/
[15:14] <popey> (morning btw) :D
[15:17] <popey> looks like it's running against the wrong branch according to sverzegnassi_ balloons
[15:30] <balloons> popey, morning to you!
[15:30] <balloons> I'll look
[15:31] <balloons> ahh.. offline
[15:44] <beni_> hei
[15:45] <beni_> appdevs
[15:46] <beni_> are there any appdevs?
[15:51] <popey> beni_, ya
[18:45] <ahayzen> balloons, any idea why jenkins hasn't merged this? https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/music-uc1.3-now-playing-fix-1447428/+merge/275635
[19:25] <popey> oooh!
[19:26] <popey> ahayzen, jenkins was busted earlier today, it might need re-approving to nudge it? balloons ?
[19:26] <ahayzen> popey, oo
[19:26] <balloons> ahayzen, indeed, jenkins was broken this morning. I wasn't sure if the old jobs got re-run or not
[19:26] <popey> i believe it's supposed to be fixed now
[19:27] <balloons> ohh.. that merge has never been run by the new jenkins
[19:27] <ahayzen> balloons, that mp, and this one hasn't had jenkins comment on it yet https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/fix-1514143-workaround/+merge/277611
[19:27] <ahayzen> yup, its all appproved :-)
[19:28] <balloons> interesting
[19:28] <balloons> let's look
[19:37] <balloons> ahayzen, d'oh!
[19:37] <balloons> found the issue
[19:37] <ahayzen> :-)
[19:38] <balloons> it's doing lots of stuff now
[19:38] <ahayzen> \o/
[19:38] <balloons> btw, it is lp:music-app, not lp:ubuntu-music-app
[19:38] <balloons> lol
[19:38] <ahayzen> balloons, up lp:music-app
[19:38] <ahayzen> *yup
[19:38] <ahayzen> lol
[19:39] <ahayzen> boom \o/ thanks balloons :-)
[19:40] <balloons> ahayzen, let me know if you see anymore weirdness, but yes, things should be happening now on music
[19:40] <balloons> sorry about that!
[19:40] <ahayzen> balloons, will do ... unrelated, and a bit obscure, was wondering if you can connect Vis to an app running on a device ?
[19:41] <ahayzen> i can use the print_tree as a sortof workaround but Vis is slightly nicer
[19:41] <balloons> in theory, yes. In practice, no
[19:41] <ahayzen> hah!
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-devel
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[06:23] <pitti> Good morning
[06:24] <pitti> popey: how is dropbox involved in a caja <-> apport crash?
[06:25] <pitti> elbrus: no, it magically started working, apparently some dependency got uploaded/synced
[06:27] <pitti> slangasek: I saw the kernel autopkgtest install failure on Friday, on my radar for today; if autopkgtest itself installs test deps it falls back to removing the pin, but that doesn't work if tests themselves call apt
[06:27] <pitti> slangasek, infinity: yeah, I mentioned that in the announcement -- right now we dist-upgrade to -proposed as we have a lot of packages in the base image without any tests
[07:03] <Mirv> @pilot in
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:24] <bipul> Good morning :)
[08:34] <popey> pitti, dropbox has shell integration, I'm speculating, but it locks up every time I touch dropbox folders in caja
[08:35] <popey> pitti, by "shell integration" I mean hooks into the file manager
[09:04] <bipul> Hi.
[09:16] <pitti> apw: can you see what's wrong in https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/l/linux/20151116_071523@/log.gz ?
[09:17] <apw> pitti, looking
[09:18] * pitti will look at the "crash" regression, that's infrastructure related
[09:18] <apw> pitti, END ERROR ubuntu_qrt_kernel_aslr_collisions.test-kernel-aslr-collisions.py
[09:18] <apw> pitti, we've got a whine out to #security about that one failing _a_lot_
[09:18] <pitti> apw: want me to push the retry knob?
[09:19] <apw> pitti, let me check if it always fails
[09:19] <pitti> apw: I retried it once more, the previous failures were due to util-linux
[09:19] <pitti> let's see
[09:19] <pitti> it passed on 4.2.0-17.21
[09:20] <apw> ok thanks
[09:20] <pitti> apw: and it passed on i386 too
[09:20] <pitti> otherwise I'll hint it to unblock binutils
[09:20] <apw> then its likely random when it fails, i have someone looking to see if we can make it work better and quicker
[09:20] <apw> but yes, if its blocking something in -proposed it is known and very likely not real
[09:20] <pitti> apw: I fixed the "apt get source" case of "Temporary failure resolving" btw, the other is still on my list
[09:21] <pitti> apw: thanks for checking; I had a hard time spotting the error in the log
[09:21] <apw> and cirtianly the kind of error which means "we are less secure against attacks" than "functionally broken"
[09:21] <apw> pitti, yeah they are all autotest under the hood so "END\ " is your search term
[09:21] <pitti> good to know
[09:27] <LocutusOfBorg1> good morning
[09:28] <bipul> Hi, i have question. Do you mind if i discussed here.
[09:29] <bipul> I don't know what's wrong with my gnome-terminal. It is getting vanished all of sudden (gnome-terminal). when ever i am trying to open it.
[09:31] <tvoss> pitti, do you happen to know the launchpad project powering geoip.ubuntu.com
[09:31] <tvoss> ?
[09:34] <apw> pitti, i have asked for the "END"s to be summarised at the end of the run before exiting, much as adt run does
[09:47] <seb128> tvoss, there are https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-geoip but unsure that includes the geoip server side
[09:48] <tvoss> seb128, ack
[09:48] <seb128> ted or evan probably know better
[10:04] <highvoltage> 4~/win last
[10:24] <popey> morphis, in the bluez5 transition (specifically on touch) do we plan to add support for other device types? I'd like to have joypad support in if possible?
[10:26] <morphis> popey: that depends, generally everything should be the same as before
[10:27] <morphis> popey: but should be a lot easier to add new ones now
[10:27] <morphis> popey: joypad, never heard of it before, it is a special gamepad?
[10:28] <popey> morphis, no, just another word for the same thing
[10:28] <popey> pretty sure "joypad" is what bluetooth calls them
[10:29] <s1aden> mmm, joypad
[10:30] <morphis> popey: which bt profiles does it support?
[10:30] <s1aden> presumably it's just a HID device
[10:30] <popey> it is
[10:30] <pitti> utlemming: would it be possible to manually publish a more up to date xenial cloud image?
[10:30] <popey> with lots of buttons and other interesting things
[10:33] <morphis> popey: good, than this maybe just need a small adjustment in the settings app
[10:41] <popey> morphis, would be good for a demo I wanted to make for the converged phone, playing a game with a bluetooth controller.
[10:42] <morphis> popey: when do you want to do the demo?
[10:43] <popey> Not any time soon.
[10:44] <popey> Post OTA-9 for example
[10:55] <morphis> popey: good
[10:55] <morphis> popey: we're going to land bluez5 support in a bit
[10:56] <morphis> popey: I can push up a MP after that for you to test
[10:57] <popey> morphis, great, thanks.
[11:21] <nobuto> pitti: hi, can you please move language-pack-ja-base and language-pack-gnome-ja-base from trusty-proposed to trusty-updates? we received such unmet dependency bug reports recently.
[11:21] <nobuto> such as bug #1512262
[11:21] <nobuto> and bug #1511405
[11:36] <pitti> nobuto: done, sorry about that
[11:36] <nobuto> pitti: brilliant! no problem.
[12:25] <pitti> cjwatson: hah, now LXC has started acting up for me as well, I can't start wily or xenial containers
[12:25] <pitti> Failed to create root cgroup hierarchy: Permission denied
[12:25] <pitti> Failed to allocate manager object: Permission denied
[12:26] <pitti> cjwatson: sorry, can't remember any more -- was that what you were seeing?
[12:26] <cjwatson> pitti: no, I was seeing http://paste.ubuntu.com/13247579/
[12:27] <pitti> ah right, ns/mnt
[12:48] <rbasak> mariadb-10.0 is on 10.0.22-0ubuntu1 in xenial's release pocket and 10.0.22-1 in xenial-proposed which FTBFS on some architectures so isn't migrating. The Debian maintainer will work on it in Debian. Will subsequent uploads to sid autosync? That is: does the autosync avoid stepping on merges by examining the release pocket or the proposed pocket?
[12:51] <cjwatson> rbasak: It takes the newest in release or proposed.
[12:51] <cjwatson> rbasak: So subsequent uploads should auto-sync, yes.
[12:51] <cjwatson> rbasak: (The code is auto-sync in lp:ubuntu-archive-tools)
[12:52] <rbasak> cjwatson: OK, thanks!
[13:08] <cpaelzer> hi everybody, we have a bug and ask ourself what the right approach is #LP 1516543
[13:08] <cpaelzer> Eventually we could: a) just add a path to /usr/bin/ b) fix the script to not rely oon /usr/bin (more complex)
[13:08] <cpaelzer> is there anything against a) in terms of usual policy or best practise?
[13:09] <rbasak> cpaelzer: is it an init.d script or something else?
[13:09] <rbasak> cpaelzer: it seems pretty common for init.d scripts to set their own PATH at the top.
[13:09] <cpaelzer> yes, it is an init script
[13:09] <rbasak> Debian policy doesn't seem to say much about it.
[13:09] <cpaelzer> rbasak that sounds good as it indicates it is somewhat common
[13:09] <rbasak> I only know of https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html which is about maintainer scripts and says:
[13:09] <rbasak> "Programs called from maintainer scripts should not normally have a path prepended to them. Before installation is started, the package management system checks to see if the programs ldconfig, start-stop-daemon, and update-rc.d can be found via the PATH environment variable. Those programs, and any other program that one would expect to be in the PATH, should thus be invoked without an absolute pathn
[13:09] <rbasak> ame. Maintainer scripts should also not reset the PATH, though they might choose to modify it by prepending or appending package-specific directories. These considerations really apply to all shell scripts."
[13:10] <rbasak> But maintainer scripts are called from a better defined environment (dpkg).
[13:10] <rbasak> init.d scripts can't rely on much, so perhaps deviating from that and setting PATH manually is fine.
[13:10] <cjwatson> One thing to bear in mind is that systemd units don't do any path expansion, so you end up having to execute specific paths for that anyway. My solution for things I'm upstream for is to generate all the init files and substitute @bindir@.
[13:10] <cpaelzer> rbasak, yeah I took a loog and you are right a lot of PATH= in /etc/init.d
[13:11] <cjwatson> e.g. http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/binfmt-support.git/tree/init
[13:12] <cjwatson> I'm not really wild about hardcoding that way, but that ship has sailed regarding systemd so we might as well be consistent, and it's fairly tolerable if the substitution is automatic.
[13:12] <cjwatson> At least if the executable is within your own package.
[13:13] <cjwatson> Ah, but this bug implies that maybe we're talking about standard utilities in /usr/bin/ that aren't part of dpdk.
[13:13] <cpaelzer> cjwatson - right
[13:13] <cpaelzer> head and cut
[13:13] <cpaelzer> for some text processing
[13:14] <cjwatson> In that case, yeah, I'd tend to agree that ensuring that the directories you need are on PATH is OK, provided that you can guarantee that even if /usr is a separate mount it's always available by the time your init script runs.
[13:15] <cpaelzer> smb, is dpdk be late enough in terms of dependencies to assume mounts are ok atthe time?
[13:15] <rbasak> cpaelzer: so in this bug, systemd is calling the init.d script and not giving it a sane path? That's a shame.
[13:15] <rbasak> I presume it's intentional if it is, but I don't like it :-(
[13:15] <cpaelzer> rbasak, well I trust jamespages initial check that it only provides /bin and /sbin
[13:15] <cpaelzer> never checked that detail of systemd
[13:16] <smb> cpaelzer, Not really sure... the intention was to be relatively early to take away the nics as soon as possible
[13:17] <cpaelzer> rbasak, smb - well then for simplicity lets consider dropping head&cut - any votes for the tool of choice?
[13:17] <cpaelzer> sed ?
[13:18] <cjwatson> systemd.exec(5) claims that systemd uses a fixed PATH of "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin", which would be OK here.
[13:18] <cjwatson> sed is usually pretty good for this kind of thing.
[13:18] * smb wonders whether cloud-images differ there...
[13:19] <cpaelzer> cjwatson - hmm, interesting find on systemd.exec
[13:19] <cpaelzer> jamespage, are you around to share what you have seen in detail?
[13:19] <smb> cjwatson, I think that should be possible and would combine two callouts into one
[13:19] <rbasak> cjwatson: would that apply for ExecStart?
[13:19] <rbasak> I didn't realise before but that's how this script is being called - not init.d
[13:20] <jamespage> cpaelzer, I hit that error in a backport of dpdk to 14.04 - I need to reconfirm it on 15.10/16.04 as its possible that its working in later releases
[13:20] <rbasak> Ah, no systemd.
[13:20] <smb> rbasak, I tried to provide both ways
[13:20] <jamespage> cpaelzer, that said this was not as startup - it was just calling the init script with 'start'
[13:20] <rbasak> Ah, that makes more sense.
[13:20] <rbasak> And there's the culprit
[13:20] <rbasak> PATH="/sbin:/bin"
[13:21] <jamespage> I set that to include /usr/bin and everything sprang to life
[13:21] <rbasak> In debian/dpdk.init which ends up as /etc/init.d/dpdk
[13:21] <rbasak> Sorry, I had completely misunderstood the problem.
[13:21] <cjwatson> There we go. But if it's early, using sed is still (overall) simpler.
[13:21] <cpaelzer> rbasak, you still solved it faster than we did :-)
[13:21] <marga> Hi, the files in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/ are from Nov 4th. The kernel there is 3.13.0-67-generic, but the latest kernel is already -68 since Nov 10th. Any reason why the installer was not regenerated?
[13:22] <cpaelzer> let me try create an sed to make sure we would work on the conditions of not yet mounted /usr as cjwatson suggested
[13:22] <cjwatson> infinity,apw: ^- fancy doing a trusty d-i update?
[13:22] <cpaelzer> but I'd still suggest we add that to the path in dpkg.init to not search for the issue again
[13:22] <smb> cpaelzer, Ok, so this sounds like another item on my list
[13:22] <cpaelzer> smb, let me give it a try
[13:22] <rbasak> Related to me mariadb question earlier. We autosync from sid always nowadays, right? Even for LTses?
[13:23] <cpaelzer> I'm done with paperwork
[13:23] <cjwatson> rbasak: Yes.
[13:23] <rbasak> OK, thanks for confirming.
[13:23] <cjwatson> rbasak: Auto-syncing from testing turned out to be more trouble than it was worth.
[13:23] <cpaelzer> smb, and that simple test probably needs a full day and would be bad to start now
[13:23] <cpaelzer> smb, how would you prefer the patch ?
[13:24] <cpaelzer> smb, it is not part of your git - hmm - merge proposal to lp:ubuntu/wily/dpdk then ?
[13:24] <cpaelzer> on that bug?
[13:24] <smb> cpaelzer, well this and probably the other things would be updates to the wily version as well... I can live with a simple diff
[13:25] <cpaelzer> ok I'll post something in the bug later on and assign it to you then
[13:25] <cpaelzer> smb, ok ?
[13:25] <smb> cpaelzer, ok, wfm
[13:26] <cpaelzer> rbasak, sorry but I can't set it to triaged, could you ?
[13:27] <smb> cpaelzer, looks like I could too...
[13:27] <smb> cpaelzer, done
[13:28] <smb> cpaelzer, well only the dpdk part... lets ignore the cloud-archive half... :-P
[13:28] <cpaelzer> smb, I agree
[13:29] <rbasak> smb, cpaelzer: maybe an idea to throw the dpdk packaging into git and maintain it from there now?
[13:29] <rbasak> (if we weren't already)
[13:30] <cpaelzer> rbasak, smb, I'd love that
[13:30] <smb> rbasak, well it is
[13:30] <smb> rbasak, lp git... actually
[13:30] <cpaelzer> smb, is https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/dpdk what you work on ?
[13:30] <smb> cpaelzer, yep... there is a wily branch and we could add a xenial one
[13:31] <rbasak> smb: we should have upstream branches and tags that match the Ubuntu uploads.
[13:31] <smb> cpaelzer, master I would use as upstream
[13:31] <rbasak> Also ~ubuntu-server is available for everyone to force push to, including potentially vandals.
[13:31] <rbasak> I'm not sure of a good solution to that issue, since you won't be able to push to ~ubuntu-server-dev.
[13:31] <rbasak> We could have a separate ~dpdk-dev launchpad group I guess, but that seems overkill.
[13:32] <cpaelzer> rbasak, let keep it there in SMBs hope to get rid of it one day anyway
[13:32] <apw> cjwatson, thanks for hte heads up
[13:32] <cpaelzer> and then move it to ~ubuntu-server-dev
[13:33] <smb> cpaelzer, rbasak, I put it there on rbasak's request, but yeah maybe some group that is a bit more closed
[13:33] <rbasak> The problem is that ~ubuntu-server-dev is a DMB-managed group and cpaelzer and smb won't be able to push there.
[13:34] <rbasak> OTOH you could submit merge proposals and acceptance would effectively be an endorsement for upload of those changes.
[13:35] <rbasak> smb, cpaelzer: I'm happy for you to decide what workflow you prefer between yourselves, and I'll support that ;)
[13:36] <smb> rbasak, I guess there is one thing how to do it for now but maybe another thing how to properly do it for the future
[13:37] <rbasak> In the future Launchpad will do something dgit-like and it'll all be like a bed of roses :)
[13:39] <cpaelzer> rbasak, thorny roses?
[13:39] <rbasak> No, nice-smelling ones :)
[13:39] <smb> with thorns
[13:40] <smb> :)
[13:40] <smb> cpaelzer, btw I just pushed tags and current upstream to lp
[13:44] <rbasak> smb: it would be useful to have packaging tags that correspond to Ubuntu uploads. Eg. ubuntu/2.0.0-0ubuntu1
[13:45] <smb> rbasak, yeah now that there is an actual upload that makes sense
[14:34] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: I don't know if you remember, but there's a missing --rename in the dpkg-divert handling for grub-probe in the cloud images
[14:34] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: It's fixed in the patch set that landed in livecd-rootfs in the archive, but do you know if it might be possible to produce at least fixed wily/arm64 cloud images without having to wait for the full migration to LP to finish?
[14:35] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: I ask because it's currently blocking upgrading arm64 scalingstack guests to wily, which we'd like to do as part of the "flail desperately until we find something that makes them more stable" plan
[15:19] <smoser> slangasek, or infinity, do you plan on addressing my comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/distro-info-data/+bug/1508759 ?
[15:19] <smoser> i'm guessing you just didn't see it. but we really should fix that completely.
[15:22] <slangasek> smoser: if you want to upload, I'm happy to process the SRUs
[15:24] <smoser> k.
[15:32] <smoser> slangasek, uploaded.
[15:38] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: I'm sprinting this week, would you mind filing a cpc-core bug and assigning it to me?
[15:39] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: (I should be able to get to it, but I'll lose track of it amongst all the other stuff happening otherwise)
[15:53] <infinity> marga: The installer doesn't need to be revved with every kernel bump.
[15:56] <slangasek> smoser: I only see an upload in wily; was that the only one that was missing the full name?
[15:56] <marga> infinity, uhm, but if you don't then errors like the one I mentioned in #u-kernel happen (i.e. update-initramfs triggered by dkms at the end of the installer fails, due to the running kernel not being installed in the chroot)
[15:57] <infinity> marga: Guessing you're using a custom preseed with dkms? I would consider that a dkms bug we should look at, if it tries to generate for a kernel that's not installed.
[15:57] <smoser> slangasek, correct.
[15:57] <smoser> everything else was right.
[15:57] <smoser> wily went in before xerus was released as a name.
[15:58] <infinity> marga: Anyhow, there will be a new d-i sometime this week for other reasons, but we don't rev stable d-i builds every single kernel.
[15:58] <smoser> then the srus got the real name
[15:58] <marga> infinity, yeah, a custom preseed that pulls in additional packages (in this case it's nvidia-dkms). I guess the bug might be in update-initramfs
[15:58] <marga> (the package isn't called nvidia-dkms, I meant to write nvidia's dkms package)
[15:58] <infinity> marga: Err, yes, update-initramfs. Do you have a log of the issue?
[15:59] <marga> Yes, sec
[15:59] <infinity> marga: FWIW, while we do update trusty's d-i ona fairly regular basis because we build dailies from it, we almost never update d-i in non-LTS stables (vivid, wily, etc), so this is a bug that should be filed and fixed.
[15:59] <infinity> marga: Can you file a bug in initramfs-tools and point me at it?
[16:00] <marga> yeah, if you are sure that's it
[16:00] <marga> I'll give you paste of the error in a sec
[16:01] <marga> infinity, http://paste.debian.net/333067/
[16:02] <marga> Should I go ahead and open the bug?
[16:02] <infinity> marga: Well, that'll either be a bug in initramfs-tools or in dkms for calling it incorrectly, but do file the bug on one of them and give me the #, I can figure it out when I have some time.
[16:03] <marga> ok, thanks
[16:30] <tsg> ScottK: wanted to check with you on backports - bug 1515710 and bug 1516259 - critical for openstack swift. If there is additional validation I can provide, I will be happy to
[16:44] <mterry> chiluk_, that trusty update of coreutils is ftbfs
[16:45] <chiluk_> really?
[16:46] <chiluk> I know I ran build tests, because I'm running the package on my desktop as we speak
[16:46] <chiluk> mterry are you building with pbuilder again?
[16:47] <mterry> chiluk, I mean it's ftbfs in the buildd servers, when it hit trusty-proposed
[16:47] <chiluk> huh... but it builds for you locally right?
[16:49] <chiluk> yeah mterry, just verified, I definitely built that debdiff locally... coreutils is such a pita.
[16:49] <marga> infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1516705
[16:50] <marga> Sorry for the delay, got caught up in other things
[16:50] <mterry> chiluk, it doesn't build for me locally in pbuilder, as we discussed. I never did the sbuild setup, since I figured that was a PITA for me if you had already done it
[16:51] <chiluk> yeah pbuilder does something weird with it..
[16:52] <chiluk> E: Build failure (dpkg-buildpackage died)... well that's weird
[16:53] <chiluk> mterry 1 of 423 tests failed
[16:53] <infinity> marga: S'ok, won't be as bad as the delay for me investigating/fixing. :P
[16:53] <infinity> marga: Thanks for filing, though, I'll look when I have a bit of time to context switch out of mainframe land.
[16:53] <marga> infinity, that's fine
[16:53] <chiluk> mterry FAIL: tests/df/total-unprocessed.sh
[16:54] <marga> You got me thinking with the non-lts thing
[16:54] <marga> This issue used to happen for us A LOT when we were using the hardware enablement installers for precise. But we are still using trusty's installer for trusty and it hasn't happened in over a year or so, I guess this is why.
[16:55] <chiluk> mterry .. I'm rebuilding again now... just to sanity check..
[16:55] <infinity> marga: Without looking, I suspect the bug is that dkms triggers an initramfs build for all kernels, not just the one it built modules successfully for, but I'll have to investigate a bit to see what's really happening.
[16:55] <cking> pitti, who can we asked to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/1491729/ moving a bit further on the SRU process?
[16:55] <chiluk> mterry PASS: tests/df/total-unprocessed.sh
[16:55] <chiluk> worked for me.
[16:55] <chiluk> very confusing.
[16:55] <mterry> chiluk, I suspect it will work for you locally again. I think this is a difference between buildd and local sbuild. yeah
[16:56] <chiluk> yeap
[16:56] <marga> infinity, dkms actually realizes that it's in this weird situation and does the right thing with regards to module building, so I think the fault lies at update-initramfs for not realizing.
[16:56] <chiluk> I'll take a closer look at the test.
[16:57] <infinity> marga: Well, no. If dkms knows what kernels it built for, it should only be triggering update-initramfs for those kernels, IMO. But I could be off, and it could be using a generic trigger that just sucks at its job. We'll see when I dig.
[17:07] <chiluk> hmm mterry it appears as if the only difference is df is printing directional ticks and compare on the buildds isn't liking that.
[17:07] <chiluk> mterry give me a sec to see if I can figure out if I did that or if we can change that somehow.
[17:10] <chiluk> mterry yeah it has something to do with the smart quotes being printed by df..
[17:10] <chiluk> which is super odd.
[17:10] <chiluk> I'm not seeing that out of sbuild, but am seeing it when I run the test manually
[17:10] <chiluk> which is also nuts.
[17:10] <mterry> chiluk, well... good that you can reproduce?
[17:11] <chiluk> yeah give me a sec to see if I can fix it so we don't have to disable the tests.
[17:13] <cjwatson> That'll probably be LANG=C vs. LANG=C.UTF-8
[17:13] <cjwatson> or similar
[17:13] <cjwatson> though launchpad-buildd currently uses LANG=C, so the symptoms seem backwards
[17:14] <cjwatson> unless I'm misunderstanding
[17:15] <cjwatson> Odd_Bloke: OK, sure - filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/cpc-core/+bug/1516715 but I can't assign it to you because I'm not a cpc-core bug supervisor
[17:24] <chiluk> thanks cjwatson.. I think you are on the right track.. I'll try setting the LANG explicitly in the test case, and hopefully that will help
[17:26] <cjwatson> chiluk: Yep, sounds sensible
[17:28] <chiluk> cjwatson, I think it's a new test, but setting LANG=C in the test itself seems to resolve the issue.
[17:29] <chiluk> mterry .. do I need to create a new bug to fix the FTBS?
[17:31] <chiluk> cjwatson: what's the process for fixing ftbs
[17:32] <chiluk> when it's failing in -proposed? open a new bug, increment source version reupload?
[17:33] <cjwatson> chiluk: I'm sure I'm out of date, but I can't see why a new bug is needed
[17:34] <chiluk> cjwatson, mterry, so what's required here?
[17:35] <cjwatson> chiluk: just upload a fix?
[17:35] <chiluk> I'm not coredev yet..
[17:35] <cjwatson> well, get a sponsor to do so
[17:35] <chiluk> but I'll upload a new debdiff..
[17:36] <chiluk> does the debdiff have to be versioned newer than the ftbs?
[17:36] <cjwatson> you can't reuse the same version, indeed
[17:36] <chiluk> ok.. I wasn't sure if that was required..
[17:36] <cjwatson> use 8.21-1ubuntu5.3
[17:36] <chiluk> that's newer..
[17:36] <cjwatson> the reason it shouldn't need a new bug is that the bug is principally required for tracking verification, and a build failure fix to something that's already on its way through -proposed for a different reason doesn't need separate verification
[17:37] <cjwatson> chiluk: err ... yes it is
[17:37] <cjwatson> I meant it to be
[17:37] <cjwatson> your debdiff should be on top of 8.21-1ubuntu5.2, and should result in a new package versioned 8.21-1ubuntu5.3
[17:38] <chiluk> Ok.. that's what I thought.
[17:38] <chiluk> thanks.
[17:38] <cjwatson> because you cannot reuse 8.21-1ubuntu5.2, and there's certainly no reason to pretend it never existed
[17:38] <chiluk> right..
[17:54] <chiluk> mterry arges ...fix for ftbfs uploaded https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/1432871
[17:55] <chiluk> it seems to resolve it when run outside of a chroot on my local machine where the lang is set to en_US.UTF-8
[17:55] <chiluk> do you want me to run a test build on the buildd's first? I really don't think that should be necessary
[17:59] <apw> pitti, i added that [!ppc64el] test dependancy to fix the ppc64el linux package install failures, but it seems it is not valid
[17:59] <apw> pitti, if i am reading this dep_re correctly it only supports positive [arch] lists
[18:00] <cjwatson> dep_re where?
[18:01] <apw> autopkgtest lib/testdesc.py
[18:02] <apw> which isn't a big deal i guess we don't change the list very often
[18:02] <mterry> chiluk, I can try uploading in a bit
[18:02] <mterry> chiluk, sorry was afk for a quick errand
[18:02] <chiluk> no worries mterry we all have life to deal with.
[18:03] <chiluk> mterry I uploaded it to my ppa in case you want to wait a sec to see if it builds.
[18:03] <chiluk> mterry should be almost done
[18:03] <mterry> chiluk, oh nice
[18:04] <chiluk> mterry coreutils has been such a pita..
[18:04] <mterry> chiluk, :) every package is its own sweet little pile of pain
[18:05] <chiluk> mterry still FTBFS.
[18:05] <chiluk> maybe I forgot to add it to 00list
[18:05] <mterry> chiluk, I'm so glad Debian got behind quilt instead of dpatch or others :)
[18:06] <mterry> Still can forget to add to series, but just much harder to mess up
[18:06] <chiluk> yep that was my problem.. working too fast.
[18:41] <chiluk> well crap mterry still failing...
[18:55] <chiluk> mterry it looks like the testcase is failing, but after playing around a bit it looks like there's a similar regression somewhere.. where df -t nfs isn't reporting filesystems.
[18:55] <chiluk> so that's not good.
[18:55] <mterry> chiluk, hrm
[18:56] <chiluk> that should probably be remedied.
[18:56] <mterry> chiluk, so yay for tests :)
[18:56] <chiluk> yeah.. so the the testcase is incorrectly failing as far as I can tell.
[18:56] <chiluk> there's definitely something going odd.
[18:56] <mterry> chiluk, oh sorry I thought you said there was a real regression
[18:56] <chiluk> yeah there is a real regression
[18:57] <chiluk> the testcase didn't really find it.
[18:57] <mterry> chiluk, ah :)
[18:57] <chiluk> but I found it while playing around with the commands the testcase is testing.
[18:58] <mterry> chiluk, so yay for busted tests! :)
[18:58] <chiluk> yeah something like that
[18:58] <mterry> chiluk, this regression is trusty-specific?
[18:58] <chiluk> it's all in similar logic.
[18:58] <chiluk> haven't figured that out yet.. but I'll definitely check upstreams.
[18:59] <chiluk> basically df -t nfs isn't finding nfs shares.
[18:59] <chiluk> so that's odd.
[18:59] <mterry> hm
[18:59] <chiluk> but the test case somehow finds a - mount.
[18:59] <chiluk> which is beyond me.
[18:59] <chiluk> anyhow I'll need a few to get this squared away.
[19:03] <chiluk> mterry looks like wily's affected as well.
[19:04] <chiluk> I guess it's better for us to discover it than someone else ..
[19:04] <chiluk> it might even be an upstream issue.
[19:05] <Odd_Bloke> cjwatson: Thanks for that; looks like utlemming has picked it up. :)
[21:09] <jibel> bdmurray, hi, about bug 1494442, could you count the crashes for ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/* instead of ubuntu-touch/devel?
[21:10] <bdmurray> jibel: where * = ubuntu or something else?
[21:11] <jibel> bdmurray, I'd be interested in ubuntu, bq-aquaris.en and meizu.en
[21:13] <bdmurray> jibel: updated
[21:13] <jibel> bdmurray, thanks
[21:14] <bdmurray> no problem
[22:18] <chiluk> mterry so I just compiled upstream coreutils, and df has the same issue with remote filesystems..
[22:25] <ScottK> tsg: you might check with micahg.
[22:26] <tsg> thanks ScottK
[22:27] <tsg> micahg: I was wondering about bug 1515710 and bug 1516259. This is a fairly simple backport and I can provide any validation needed (already have validated the wily pkgs work on trusty and precise)
[22:44] <chiluk> mterry, so after stepping through the code, it looks like the move to /proc/mountinfo has had some odd side effects.
[22:45] <chiluk> this is because the filesystem type is now more accurate.. for example it's no longer just nfs , it's nfs4.
[22:46] <chiluk> so I don't think this is a regression.. more of a change in behavior.
[22:46] <chiluk> but one that's necessary.
[22:46] <mterry> chiluk, ok
[22:46] <mterry> chiluk, so we don't do anything?
[22:46] <chiluk> mterry do you know the correct way to disable a test?
[22:47] <mterry> chiluk, we can't fix the test?
[22:47] <chiluk> I'm still trying to figure out why it's failing.
[22:47] <chiluk> I'm basically not getting the same output ..
[22:49] <mterry> chiluk, well there's no standard way to disable a test, because there are so many frameworks. Often a patch to comment it out. Or a debian/rules adjustment to skip it if possible. But skipping tests is obviously the least preferable way to solve the problem
[22:50] <chiluk> yeah.. I'll look a little closer.. but setting the LANG=C in the test directly didn't seem to help
[22:52] <mterry> chiluk, odd
[22:52] <mterry> chiluk, dumb question , but did you forget to maybe export it, instead of just set it?
[22:53] <chiluk> well looking at the build log.. it seems that we are actually getting output from "df --local -t nfs --total ." from within the buildd.
[22:53] <chiluk> where the error is expected.
[22:54] <chiluk> it might be a cgroups related failure.
[22:54] <chiluk> mterry http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13303587/ that's the part that's causing the failure.
[22:55] <mterry> chiluk, so is that just because it's using nfs instead of nfs4?
[22:55] <chiluk> it almost makes me wonder if the filesystem being mounted to / in the buildd is somehow local and nfs.
[22:56] <chiluk> cjwatson, are the buildd's run under kvm or cgroups?
[22:56] <chiluk> df shouldn't have any outpu on that test.
[22:56] <chiluk> but something is weird enough about the buildds that it gets confused
[22:57] <mterry> chiluk, I'm going eod, good luck :-/
[22:58] <chiluk> thanks for all the help mterry.
[22:59] <sarnold> chiluk: check the build logs, there's some hints about what it does; iirc all the builders are virtualized these days, but within those VMs, they also use chroots, managed by an sbuild that may or may not be similar to the sbuild that we use on our dev workstations
[23:00] <chiluk> yeah.. that's the weird thing.. sbuild succeeds locally for me.
[23:00] <chiluk> sarnold: it's something particular to the buildds
[23:00] <chiluk> sarnold: see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13303587/
[23:01] <chiluk> sarnold basically the testcase is expecting df to fail.
[23:01] <chiluk> but for some odd reason it's working fine at least on trusty
[23:01] <chiluk> that didn't get hit on wily or vivid
[23:01] <chiluk> which is also strange
[23:01] <sarnold> chiluk: i'm quite surprised that --local -t nfs doesn't throw a fit
[23:02] <chiluk> yeah it's supposed to.
[23:02] <chiluk> and it does for me locally
[23:02] <chiluk> but not on the buildds
[23:02] <chiluk> which is why it's so odd.
[23:03] <sarnold> chiluk: that -is- odd :) that's a good one, hehe; can you plop a 'strace' in front of that thing and try to figure out the series of systemcalls it's working with?
[23:04] <chiluk> sarnold it's just going to be processing /proc/mountinfo
[23:04] <chiluk> I know this code fairly well at this point.
[23:04] <sarnold> chiluk: ltrace then?
[23:04] <sarnold> chiluk: heh, sorry to hear that :)
[23:04] <chiluk> hah yeah.. me too.
[23:06] <chiluk> sarnold: df doesn't really make any library calls.. it statically includes gnulib.
[23:10] <cjwatson> chiluk: Speaking as a heavy gnulib user, gnulib serves two purposes: it provides replacement functions if autoconf says that something's missing from the system, and it provides various utility functions of its own. For functions in the former category, seeing a function in included gnulib source does *not* imply that df won't prefer the version from libc if it works properly.
[23:10] <cjwatson> The point of gnulib isn't to statically link libc into everything that uses it :-)
[23:11] <chiluk> cjwatson, I said df statically links with gnulib not libc
[23:12] <cjwatson> chiluk: Yes, but the bits of gnulib that might substitute for library calls that df would otherwise make are basically libc.
[23:12] <chiluk> I'll check to see if it's making libc calls, but I don't think there's any code for an equivalent to mountlist
[23:12] <cjwatson> df certainly does make library calls.
[23:12] <chiluk> yes it does..
[23:12] <chiluk> I"m not arguing that.
[23:12] <cjwatson> But sure, mountlist is linked in directly.
[23:12] <chiluk> I just don't think those library calls are affecting this build.
[23:13] <chiluk> then again I wont' know till I know.
[23:13] <cjwatson> sarnold: The sbuild in use is nowadays extremely close to that in the archive. You can find it in ppa:~canonical-is-sa/ubuntu/buildd
[23:13] <chiluk> cjwatson can you take a look at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13303587/ , and tell me why the rootfs comes up as - ?\
[23:14] <cjwatson> sarnold: We're currently in a state where for upcoming xenial-based builders it will be identical.
[23:14] <sarnold> cjwatson: cool, thanks!
[23:17] <cjwatson> chiluk: Not sure just from looking, or from looking at the source - definitely a case where it will be quicker to slap ltrace -S on the front than to try to guess
[23:17] <chiluk> alrighty will do.
[23:18] <cjwatson> chiluk: The buildd's FS is certainly not NFS.
[23:19] <chiluk> yeah it's super f-ed up... My locally built version succeeds on that test.. so there's something strange still going on.
[23:19] <cjwatson> chiluk: Each x86 builder instance is an OpenStack instance, so kvm will be involved in there, and then as sarnold says there's sbuild under that (though using sudo chroot rather than schroot for mainly historical reasons).
[23:20] <cjwatson> chiluk: However, if you're seeing this on all architectures in a build for the Ubuntu primary archive, some of them are still just bare metal.
[23:20] <tsimonq2> wxl: where?
[23:20] <tsimonq2> aw crap, sorry
[23:21] <chiluk> alright I'll pick this up tomorrow .. I have to meet a friend for dinner.
[23:21] <cjwatson> chiluk: While there isn't an equivalent of mountlist, I believe that mountlist uses various libc functions such as getmntent
[23:22] <chiluk> cjwatson: yes it used to
[23:22] <chiluk> but with the move to /proc/mountinfo and /proc/self/mounts it processes those directly now
[23:23] <chiluk> which may be part of the problem.
[23:23] <cjwatson> Well, I was looking at the version you uploaded, but maybe not very closely.
[23:23] <cjwatson> Anyway, bed.
[23:23] <chiluk> yeah have fun cjwatson thanks.
[23:23] <chiluk> i really appreciated it..
[23:25] <chiluk> cjwatson: afaik all the getmntent calls get ifdefed out. i will verify that though.
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[17:41] <ada482> Is the package list in casper/filesystem.manifest the one detailing packages to be installed onto the machine, or does it list packages available for loading from the iso, or is it a list of packages installed on the livedisk?
[17:49] <cjwatson> it's the last of those; filesystem.manifest-remove is the set that should be subtracted from that when installing onto a fixed disk
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-ops
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whats is better Wi-Fi or calbe
[15:15] <jpds_> bazhang: desktop or notebook?
[15:16] <bazhang> jpds_, <robisoo> 100% TRUCK
[15:43] <k1l_> !pae
[15:43] <k1l_> that is the standard for all installs anyway now.
[15:45] <k1l_> Ubuntu uses activated PAE Kernels on all installs now. Some older Hardware can have issues with that. For Troubleshooting see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[15:45] <k1l_> !pae is Ubuntu uses activated PAE Kernels on all installs now. Some older Hardware can have issues with that. For Troubleshooting see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[15:48] <k1l_> !no pae is <reply> Ubuntu uses activated PAE Kernels on all installs now. Some older Hardware can have issues with that. For Troubleshooting see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[15:48] <k1l_> !pae
[15:49] * genii makes more coffee
[16:40] <Pici> sigh
[16:40] <Pici> its always something
[16:48] <genii> inshal_ and VictoriaXOXO?
[16:48] <Pici> yeah
[17:56] <k1l_> i accidently put 16.04 repos in and run dist-upgrade.
[17:57] <Myrtti> d'oh
[17:58] <genii> Hm, "accidentally"
[17:58] <k1l_> dont know how users can call that accidently :)
[17:58] <k1l_> genii: is right :)
[17:59] <bazhang> I accidentally glibc halp
[18:01] <jpds_> bazhang: What? That libc6.so was doing nothing apart from take up disk-space
[18:03] <bazhang> jpds_, mincecraft server teamviewer halp plz
[18:05] <bazhang> when the nick contains -fluffy/bunny/kitty etc I get suspicious
[18:17] <bazhang> mobility is integrated laptop innit
[18:18] <bazhang> I think the steam experience will be quite bad
[18:19] <bazhang> he seems to think new version of ubuntu upgrades old/weak hardware
[18:30] <bazhang> cheers for that k1l_
[18:30] <k1l_> !guidelines > FatSpitfire
[18:30] <bazhang> I had him all cued up
[19:39] <bazhang> atrodectus> how can one reinstall apt?
[19:40] <bazhang> accidental removal dept
[21:10] <genii> bazhang: wget and dpk -i , usually
[21:13] <Unit193> Can't you apt-get on a deb now?
[21:18] <genii> Possibly
[21:35] <tonyyarusso> There isn't any mention in the man page of that.
[21:41] <Unit193> Seen a few mentions of it in the Debian channels, but never looked into it.
[22:00] <Pici> sigh
[22:55] <bazhang> Genii you forget the 'g'!!11
[22:55] <bazhang> dpkG -i
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[18:44] <wxl> hey everyone. coming to harass you all about re-verification since Unit193 is a poo poo butt.
[20:06] <Unit193> Hey, I've poked 2 or 3 times, it's all good. :P
[20:07] <wxl> alright, well, i'll just let you guys expire then :(
[20:08] <Unit193> Have a lot of others expired?
[21:00] <Unit193> jrgifford: Suppose we're not going for that?
[21:01] <jrgifford> Unit193: probably not.
[21:02] <jrgifford> I guess we can't, since we aren't an active group.
[21:04] <Unit193> Yeah, not really, no. Some of us are still active in Ubuntu, but not really as -oh. OLF is the biggest one, and that hasn't happened for a couple years now.
[21:04] <yano> In democracy its your vote that counts. In feudalism its your count that votes.
[21:10] <jrgifford> yano has some good advice, as always.
[21:11] <yano> gwgw
[21:11] <yano> *hehe
[21:11] <jrgifford> off by one errors are what elasticsearch handles, not humans. ;-)
[21:11] <yano> :3
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-qc
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[02:27] <Chex_> .wc
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[00:43] <boofsterb> anyone know a way around DRM
[01:08] <boofsterb> I'm starting to take this as a no
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[05:47] <retrojeff> how do I view the build logs of a package inside a PPA?
[05:48] <retrojeff> I know its possible I just forgot how
[05:48] <retrojeff> what I want to find out is what git revision got built
[05:51] <wgrant> retrojeff: Visit the PPA, click "View package details", click the relevant package row, then select the architecture that you're interested in.
[05:51] <retrojeff> thanks
[06:00] <retrojeff> ok I found the build logs
[06:00] <retrojeff> what its not showing is where its getting the .tar.gz from
[06:01] <wgrant> retrojeff: Which PPA and package?
[06:02] <retrojeff> https://launchpad.net/~libretro/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+build/8302184
[06:02] <wgrant> retrojeff: That package was built from a recipe, so you can find the details of the source build under "Source package recipe build" on the right.
[06:03] <retrojeff> it was built fine and everything works I just wish to know which github revision it is
[06:03] <retrojeff> so I need to check the build log from
[06:03] <retrojeff> https://launchpad.net/~libretro/+archive/ubuntu/testing/+recipebuild/1020450
[06:04] <wgrant> Yes.
[09:26] <alkisg> Hi guys, the "assignee" entry in launchpad is often mis-interpreted by not-native english speakers as "the person that reported this bug", so they frequently assign it to themselves
[09:26] <alkisg> I wonder if a different word could be used there
[09:36] <alkisg> They usually know what "assign" means, but the "-ee" part is a bit harder to get, they're interpreting it more like "assigner" than "assignee".
[09:46] <maxb> The only other word frequently used in this context is owner, but that's not really any better
[09:52] <alkisg> Maybe a notice could help then, in the box where they're trying to change it... "This is the first time that you've assigned a bug to yourself, are you sure that you are planning to solve this bug yourself and that you want to notify others to stop working on it?"
[10:46] <guest123456> Hello. I accidentally changed the information type on a bug. Is there a way to undo that/delete that from the bug's history?
[10:50] <guest123456> I'm talking about this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sssd/+bug/1317949
[10:50] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1317949 in sssd (Ubuntu) "Unable to see secondary groups in `id` listing" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:53] <faenil> morning :)
[10:53] <faenil> is it possible to add ssh keys to a team account?
[10:55] <wgrant> guest123456: You can set the information type back, but it's not possible to remove items from the history.
[10:55] <wgrant> faenil: That's not possible. What are you trying to do?
[10:56] <guest123456> wgrant: I see. Thank you!
[10:56] <faenil> wgrant: the usecase is, you have a laptop which can be access by many users, and you want to be able to allow branching repos from that laptop without having everyone copying their private ssh keys to it
[10:57] <wgrant> faenil: You'll need to create an account that represents that shared laptop.
[10:57] <wgrant> It's not possible to authenticate directly as a team.
[10:57] <faenil> wgrant: that means having a shared account though, which is a security risk
[10:58] <wgrant> faenil: How's that more of a security risk than having a shared key on the team?
[10:59] <faenil> wgrant: I don't know, I'm just looking for ways to do this. Having everything handled as team could mean that when people leave the team they lose access
[10:59] <wgrant> faenil: Couldn't they just take the shared SSH key from the laptop?
[10:59] <faenil> wgrant: yes
[10:59] <wgrant> That's the problem with sharing creds.
[11:00] <wgrant> You can't revoke just one person's access.
[11:00] <wgrant> Whether or not it's a shared user or a team.
[11:01] <faenil> wgrant: that's why I'm asking here, I hoped there was a more clever way of doing it using launchpad features
[11:01] <faenil> :)
[11:01] <wgrant> It's a fundamental aspect of shared creds, unfortunately.
[11:01] <wgrant> Not much LP can do about it.
[11:03] <faenil> wgrant: we just want to download repos, there should be a way of downloading public stuff without the need of any authentication, shouldn't there?
[11:03] <faenil> I understand uploading/committing..
[11:03] <wgrant> faenil: Oh, sure, anonymous access to public stuff is fine.
[11:03] <wgrant> Doesn't require any keys.
[11:04] <faenil> wgrant: cool!
[11:05] <faenil> wgrant: so for private data the only alternative is the shared account, right?
[11:06] <wgrant> faenil: Well, shared accounts are bad and everyone should really have their own, but if that's not an option for you for some reason then you probably no choice.
[11:07] <faenil> wgrant: how is copying private keys to a machine which can be accessed by anyone any better?
[11:08] <wgrant> faenil: It's worse.
[11:08] <faenil> :)
[11:08] <wgrant> But you haven't described your use-case thoroughly; it's difficult to advise on better solutions.
[11:08] <faenil> wgrant: I don't think I can add any detail :/
[11:09] <faenil> wgrant: but hey, as long as downloading with anonymous user is fine, I guess we can handle the other cases separately with different security measures
[11:10] <wgrant> faenil: If you just need to branch private code, you'd probably want a separate LP account with an SSH key and read-only access to the code in question.
[11:10] <wgrant> We use that for deployments of private code, for example.
[11:10] <wgrant> But someone copying the key to retain access to the code after they leave the company is always a risk
[11:11] <faenil> wgrant: yeah, so the shared account
[11:11] <faenil> wgrant: alright, thanks for the help :)
[11:13] <faenil> wgrant: yeah, there doesn't seem to be an ideal solution :/
[11:18] <faenil> wgrant: how can I disable ssh in launchpad config? it seems it forces ssh if it finds ssh keys in the default folder
[11:20] <wgrant> faenil: Remove the username config from ~/.bazaar/bazaar.conf and ~/.bazaar/authentication.conf
[11:22] <faenil> wgrant: I renamed the folder, but it still expects a username
[11:22] <faenil> as in, it uses the system login as username
[11:22] <wgrant> faenil: What are you running?
[11:23] <faenil> 15.10
[11:23] <wgrant> I mean the command.
[11:23] <faenil> bzr merge
[11:23] <wgrant> bzr merge what?
[11:23] <wgrant> If there's no username configured, lp: will use HTTP
[11:23] <faenil> the parent repo
[11:24] <wgrant> If there is a username, it will use bzr+ssh
[11:24] <faenil> there's no .bazaar folder atm, I renamed it
[11:24] <wgrant> Right, but what's the URL you're trying to merge?
[11:24] <wgrant> If it starts with bzr+ssh://, it will require an SSH key.
[11:24] <faenil> wgrant: I see ...> "Merging from remembered parent location bzr+ssh://"
[11:24] <wgrant> The http:// equivalent supports anonymous access.
[11:25] <faenil> the cached value is ssh, that's why
[11:25] <faenil> I'll change that
[11:26] <faenil> wgrant: done and working, thanks o/
[12:18] * israelplanaguma la_juyis
[12:18] <israelplanaguma> ukelele
[13:35] <dobey> uhm ok
[13:45] <israelplanaguma> hello
[13:45] * israelplanaguma la_juyis
[13:45] <israelplanaguma> ukelele
[13:46] <dobey> why do you keep saying that?
[13:50] <la_juyis> hi israelplanaguma - please try now
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2015-11-16-#kubuntu
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[00:01] <bprompt> hmm
[00:01] <bprompt> jussi01: it doesn't for me, it simply jumps to the clicked sheet, Libreoffice 3.5.4.2
[00:02] <jussi01> bprompt: oh well, Ill keep on keeping on - lots of work to do...
[00:35] <denza242> what's the metapackage which has a variety of dev stuff?
[00:35] <denza242> build deps or build essential?
[00:35] <denza242> because I can't remember the name
[00:39] <valorie> build-essential
[00:39] <Unit193> Truth.
[00:39] <denza242> ah, thanks
[02:11] <jussi01> Ok, so in libreoffice calc, If I have 2 spreadsheets and I want to be able to have a dropdown to choose things from a table in another sheet, but I only want certain fields from the row to come across. So, I might have: name, cost, unit type and package size to come across into the corresponding fields in the new sheet, but there are other fields that shouldnt come across. any thoughts?
[03:39] <theteju> hey guys,,,
[03:40] <theteju> is there any software in KDE that allows me to upload images straight to Google/photos?
[03:41] <theteju> digikam export feature to picasa not working ,, and I dont get shotwell exporting in KDE too. :(
[03:45] <theteju> someone ? any comment,, I could not find a solution,, and switching to ubuntu is the last thing I wanna do
[03:47] <jussi01> theteju: blackmail gets you nowhere. I think there is a plugin for gwenview that does it...
[03:49] <theteju> jussi01 : its not working :(, I could not find solution either.
[03:56] <jussi01> theteju: google probably changed their api again..
[03:58] <theteju> jussi01 : ok. that means, wait and watch.
[04:40] <rod> What is this?
[04:40] <valorie> what is what, rod?
[04:41] <rod> I'm new with Kubuntu/linux stuff and have no clue what this chat thingy is. lol
[04:41] <valorie> this is irc
[04:41] <valorie> the first "chat thingie"
[04:41] <valorie> before the internet, even
[04:41] <rod> Ah lol
[04:42] <valorie> perhaps before linux
[04:42] <rod> Well, now I know. Thank you!
[04:42] <valorie> if you are looking for channels, alis can help
[04:42] <valorie> !alis
[04:42] <rod> ok
[04:43] <valorie> you do commands starting with / on a newline
[04:43] <valorie> as it says above
[04:43] <valorie> have fun!
[06:17] <shooter2kill> hey all i just bought a headset that is usb ...when i plug it in nothing happening still playing through speakers ...any help would be gerat
[06:17] <shooter2kill> great
[06:18] <hateball> shooter2kill: it is likely the headset comes with its own soundcard
[06:18] <hateball> so check that sound is outputting to the correct device
[06:19] <shooter2kill> nothing seems to be showing up when i plug it in ...
[06:20] <shooter2kill> hateball:
[06:20] <shooter2kill> is this something i need
[06:20] <shooter2kill> http://askubuntu.com/questions/150887/sound-from-both-headphones-and-speakers
[06:21] <shooter2kill> even though there is no sound coming from the headset atm
[06:22] <hateball> shooter2kill: what model is it? can you see anything by running "dmesg" after plugging it in?
[06:23] <shooter2kill> its just a mic and headset i bought off ebay...unknown name
[06:24] <hateball> since it is usb, also "lsusb" should show info
[06:25] <shooter2kill> https://paste.kde.org/ppodchrxc
[06:27] <hateball> shooter2kill: google says http://askubuntu.com/questions/515089/xubuntu-14-04-pulseaudio-alsa-will-not-work-with-usb-headset
[06:28] <shooter2kill> hateB when i got to video and audio settings i can see CM108 Audio Controller
[06:31] <shooter2kill> thanks for ya help hateball
[06:31] <shooter2kill> i got it going :):)
[06:31] * shooter2kill bows to the good advice
[06:32] <hateball> shooter2kill: :)
[08:12] <Smurphy> excalibr: Can't tell. I use SteamOS (Smurphy, are you able to right click in text input area in steam ui without any problem?), so not KUbuntu for it.
[08:15] <excalibr> ok
[09:25] <lordieva1er> Good morning.
[09:25] <Yossarianuk> hi - can anyone explain why since I've upgraded to 15.10 my previous issue of my machine being incredibly slow at the start of the day (I leave my work machine on overnight in case I need to connect to it) has now completely gone ?
[09:26] <Yossarianuk> i.e it used to be really sluggish until I re-logged in / rebooted - now its fine
[09:26] <Yossarianuk> Possibly intel driver realated ? Its not swap as sometimes I would be using zero swap when I logged in first thing
[09:27] <Yossarianuk> (note : I upgraded rather than re-installed)
[09:27] <Yossarianuk> <<<< extremely happy with 15.10
[09:37] <Yossarianuk> just wondering if anyone had any explainations why - but sometimes on 15.04 kwin was using 3- 4 GB (8intel driver
[09:37] <Yossarianuk> (sorry plasmashell)
[09:38] <Yossarianuk> not its using just 122 MB (2GB virtual)
[09:38] <Yossarianuk> *now*
[09:41] <valorie> Yossarianuk: you can ask in #plasma perhaps?
[09:41] <valorie> could very well be an updated driver
[09:47] <Yossarianuk> valorie: cheers
[09:48] <valorie> glad to hear you are happy, Yossarianuk
[09:48] <valorie> me too!
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:41] <king> does a live os generates junk files or it throws it through my installed os (i.e. windows xp in prefetch/%temp% folder))
[15:43] <king> yohoo
[15:44] <genii> king:Live CD uses ram to run in. Doesn't store anything on a hard drive
[15:49] <king> sir, i'm using a live os on pendrive, i'm asking particularly if my os generates junk files on my pendrive. And i'm currently using kubunt 14.04 os right now
[15:52] <genii> king: If you installed the operating system to the pen drive to permanently run it from there, then it will store some files on the /tmp folder of the pen drive. If you only are booting the normal install image but choosing to just run it instead of installing it, then no files are put anywhere except in memory while it runs
[15:53] <king> genii: tnx sir very well understood...
[16:20] <Ilgaz> Is there a way to find the EFI/Grub partition installed by Kubuntu and remove it to refresh?
[16:20] <Ilgaz> or is it just an .efi file installed?
[16:24] <Smurphy> I don't understand your question. EFI does not install itself onto the disk. It is just the efi executable which is found, and needs to be known by the system uefi bios replacement.
[16:24] <Smurphy> grub is by default installed on the first disks mbr.
[16:25] <Ilgaz> I have a mysterious issue here. HP got no issue with Kubuntu EFI 'secure boot', it installs fine and reboots. Next time you update kernel or anything, even USB boot `cd` which is read only becomes useless.
[16:28] <Ilgaz> I use 15.10. I mean complete kernel freeze. No logs or anything. It just says loading initial ramdisk and stops. Caps lock etc. doesn't work. I tried the nomodeset etc., system has only intel 5500 graphics. Actually I have chosen it to get rid of nvidia/ati etc. issues when I install Linux.
[16:28] <Smurphy> get linux installed, and check the efivars with: efibootmgr
[16:29] <Smurphy> Take a screenshot of that, and check what it looks like after it applied the updates.
[16:30] <Ilgaz> OK. It would be helpful to others too. Actually it is the first time I have seen Linux freeze like that.
[16:30] <Ilgaz> Thanks Smurphy
[16:31] <Smurphy> FYI - I am using refind and boot the kernels directly out of it (without grub).
[16:31] <Smurphy> http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[16:31] <Smurphy> That is - I am running it on a Mac mini :)
[16:37] <skrite> hey all
[17:32] <jubo2> Hiya and thanks for the awesomest user OS
[17:33] <jubo2> I'm looking to purchase a tiny mixer
[17:33] <jubo2> so it seems that USB audio interface costs like 20€ extra to the mixers
[17:33] <jubo2> I'm looking at http://www.thomann.de/fi/behringer_xenyx_qx1202_usb.htm
[17:33] <jubo2> Anyone know if driver situation for this Behringer brand is good or bad
[17:33] <jubo2> I haven't set my mind in stone yet so I could change brand
[17:34] <jubo2> Just that with 12 channels, 4 XLR connectors and enough 6.3mm plugs and 120€ price this would be nice
[17:34] <jubo2> Gonna use it mostly to blast commiemist tunes on Mayday
[17:58] <asif> hi
[17:59] <foormea> hello! i can't seem to get keyboard layouts working in kubuntu 15.10. i have US qwerty and FR azerty set up system settings/input devices/keyboard/layouts, ctrl-alt-K is selected as alternative shortcut (nothing is selected as main shortcut). i have the layout indicator/show label on flag actiated. ctrl-alt-K does nothing, and i see no layout icon in the system tray
[18:00] <asif> foormea: set a main shortcut
[18:01] <asif> foormea: set alt+space
[18:01] <foormea> asif: is that a fix, or a suggestion? in 15.04 i didn't have to have a main. besides, i like ctrl-alt-K which i cannot select as a main shortcut (main is just a list where i need to pick something :/)
[18:01] <foormea> asif: well i'll try something but not alt-space :) thanks. let me try
[18:02] <asif> foormea: I use KDE 4.something and i use Main Shortcut
[18:02] <foormea> asif: same thing. no flag in systray and no change of layout
[18:04] <foormea> also, maybe irrelevant, but the delay/rate settings for key repeat doesn't seem to actually affect the way my keyboard repeats keys :/
[18:04] <asif> foormea: how many options you have in shortcuts for switching layouts ??
[18:05] <foormea> main, 3rd level, alternative
[18:05] <asif> foormea: I have Main Shortcuts, 3rd level shortcuts and Alternative Shortcuts
[18:05] <foormea> yep same. but anyway, i think even before the shortcuts
[18:05] <foormea> i don't see a layout indicator in my systray
[18:05] <foormea> even though show layout indicator / show for single layout / show label on flag are selected
[18:06] <asif> Did you check on hidden icons ??
[18:06] <foormea> do i need to have french locale installed if i want to be able to input french? i don't think so, but... maybe?
[18:06] <foormea> not sure what you mean by hidden icons
[18:08] <asif> i wish i can send you an screenshot
[18:08] <foormea> can you not? :)
[18:08] <foormea> (appreciate your help btw!)
[18:08] <asif> how ?? i dont know
[18:09] <foormea> printscreen key, then use an online rehost service. pastebin, but for images
[18:09] <foormea> but anyway, i think there's something fishy with my system
[18:09] <asif> ok is there any up sign like icon on the left side of clock
[18:09] <foormea> are you on 15.10 or 15.04 or other?
[18:10] <asif> actually now i am on Mint 17.2 KDE
[18:10] <foormea> okay. i'd really like to check with someone running stock kubuntu 15.10 see if they have the same issue as i'm having
[18:17] <asif> foormea: i was talking about this http://picpaste.com/7XQNR2Pi.jpeg
[18:17] <foormea> yeap i do have that, but no keyboard idicator there
[18:19] <asif> foormea: you can use iBus ..
[18:19] <foormea> that goes around the problem, doesn't fix it :)
[18:20] <asif> yeah .. i know :(
[20:15] <mikkle> Is KDE 5.4.3 available in a repository for Kubuntu 15.10?
[20:17] <soee> mikkle: yes
[20:17] <mikkle> backports?
[20:18] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports?field.series_filter=wily
[20:18] <soee> yes
[20:19] <mikkle> ah, cool. Thanks!
[20:19] <mikkle> they used to release news of these things on the kubuntu website...
[20:20] <denza242> mikkle: there's also ppa:kubuntu-ci/stable
[20:23] <krytarik> mikkle: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=424
[20:28] <heinkel_111> KDE-friendly music player that supports UPnP / DNLA ?
[20:28] <heinkel_111> seems like amarok just doesn't despite having a plugin....
[20:46] <trytry> hi all
[20:46] <trytry> i need some help
[20:46] <heinkel_111> hi trytry
[20:47] <trytry> kde looks good but under root the UI looks bad
[20:47] <trytry> no icons
[20:47] <heinkel_111> you are not supposed to worry about that
[20:47] <trytry> and gtk app looks very ogly
[20:48] <trytry> whay?
[20:48] <trytry> it's normal?
[20:48] <heinkel_111> trytry: the system is configured so that you will only need root for special occasions
[20:49] <heinkel_111> and then you use "sudo" to run a command as root
[20:49] <heinkel_111> I think it is possible to get a working UI as root if you spend enough time reconfiguring
[20:50] <heinkel_111> but if you want to spend time doing something else, learn about ways to work with "sudo" in kubuntu/ubuntu
[20:50] <sithlord48> sudo for cli and kdesudo for gui programs
[20:51] <heinkel_111> but you hardly need the the kdesudo
[20:52] <heinkel_111> I have been using kubuntu for 9 years, I think I used kdesudo a handful times
[20:52] <trytry> heinkel_111: http://s23.postimg.org/54nrwx6qj/1231231.jpg
[20:52] <sithlord48> thats fine just remember sudo for cli and kdesudo for gui.
[20:53] <sithlord48> that you run with kdesudo
[20:53] <trytry> this gtk app that run only under root
[20:53] <trytry> and that run with kdesudo
[20:53] <heinkel_111> ok, there are always exceptions
[20:54] <sithlord48> just never use sudo for GUI programs . it may change ownership of somestuff in your home folder to root and you may have a bad time
[20:54] <heinkel_111> I never used root-only programs but occasionally need to edit files which only root can edit
[20:55] <heinkel_111> I am not an elite network hacker....
[20:55] <heinkel_111> :)
[20:55] <sithlord48> i use nmap gui needs root and sometimes dolphin or kate as root too
[20:56] <sithlord48> zenmap i think wireshark needs to be root too.. alot of them has kdesudo in their menu command
[20:57] <sithlord48> trytry: if you want to change setting for root you need to run systemsettings w/ kdesudo
[20:58] <heinkel_111> occasionally feel the need for kate as root, replaced by copying file to edit to my /home/user/tmpdir, editing it and then sudo cp to "real" location instead of editing file "in situ"
[20:59] <sithlord48> trytry: i wouldn't recommend setting up root so it looks like your normal user programs just incase you use the wrong window
[21:00] <trytry> i know but sometimes you need root to run application
[21:00] <trytry> like synaptic for example
[21:04] <heinkel_111> ok, stupid question, how do you remove plasmoids from a panel?
[21:05] <heinkel_111> I find a remove panel, but not a remove plasmoid
[21:06] <trytry> unlock panel >> and in right side click on the menu
[21:07] <trytry> now if you hover on the plasmoid you can remove them or move them
[21:07] <heinkel_111> trytry: thanks!
[21:07] <heinkel_111> until now I was left with deleting the panel every time I tested an element I did not like
[21:08] <trytry> :-)
[21:09] <trytry> i you want other tip you can display the desktop with Ctrl+F12
[21:09] <trytry> and whay it's good?
[21:10] <heinkel_111> sometimes work when other solutions are stalled?
[21:11] <trytry> because if you copy some text and on desktop you click on the MMB it's past the text on note on desktop
[21:15] <trytry> ok under terminal it's run well
[21:16] <trytry> and looks good
[21:16] <trytry> i no have idea whay
[21:33] <u19809> Hi anybody, need some help with the 15.10 stability ... it crashes on me in some many situations I do not even know where to begin ... can anybody help ?
[21:34] <trytry> Maybe
[21:36] <u19809> first, resume from screen lock almost always fails and Ineed to kill the X server
[21:36] <u19809> Second kplasmaserver crashes causing no more window manager ... kill X server
[21:37] <u19809> startup really slow (hangs for about 20 seconds or so)
[21:37] <u19809> also my panel sometimes prints the systray all on top of oneanother
[21:37] <u19809> e.g. the clock is shifted so much to the right is falls of the screen (except for the first digit)
[21:38] <u19809> konsole very often does not stop eating 100 % cpy (only killing helps)
[21:42] <trytry> are you try to remove old configuration of kde?
[21:44] <u19809> I already removed .config .cache and .kde(rc) but to no avail. I do have an NVIDIA card and it might have to do with that
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2015-11-16-#snappy
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[08:07] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:08] <mvo> hey fgimenez, good morning
[08:08] <fgimenez> hi mvo :)
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:16] <mvo> hey dholbach, good morning
[08:21] <dholbach> hey mvo
[09:04] <davidcalle> Good morning
[10:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Button Day! 😃
[11:23] <dholbach> mvo, from which ppa would I get the most up-to-date ubuntu-snappy-cli for devel and 15.04 respectively?
[11:32] <mvo> dholbach: generally ppa:snappy-dev/tools is a good one, what do you need it for? we also have daily build ppas
[11:32] <sergiusens> ogra_, dholbach how do I update https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/porting/ ?
[11:32] <ogra_> sergiusens, didnt someone give you write access to that ?
[11:32] <davidcalle> sergiusens, login with http://developer.ubuntu.com/openid/login
[11:33] <sergiusens> ogra_, yes, but not sure if there is a markdown source synced from it
[11:33] <davidcalle> sergiusens, ah, no md source
[11:33] <sergiusens> davidcalle, grat, I'll take the bullet tonight, wasn't easy to edit from the web for me :-P
[11:34] <dholbach> mvo, the question came up if we could automatically import a snappy manpage (I found out that 'snappy man' creates one)
[11:34] <davidcalle> sergiusens, if you struggle with the editor, ping me or dholbach anytime :)
[11:34] <sergiusens> I'll ping mhall as you guys might be sleeping when I decide to edit this ;-)
[11:35] <dholbach> mvo, maybe during the build one could be generated? :)
[11:35] <sergiusens> dholbach, if you can, Chipaca and myself failed to hook it up correclty in debian/rules
[11:36] <dholbach> sergiusens, ok, I'll take a look
[11:36] <davidcalle> sergiusens, naah, I'll just give you dholbach phone number, he is awake all night! :p
[11:36] <Chipaca> um
[11:36] <Chipaca> sergiusens: I have "man snappy"
[11:36] <Chipaca> sergiusens: from debian/rules
[11:36] <sergiusens> davidcalle, oh, I have him on telegram, I can wake him up :-P
[11:36] <sergiusens> Chipaca, oh, then it was already done and I forgot
[11:36] <Chipaca> sergiusens: don't you?
[11:37] <Chipaca> $ dpkg -S snappy.1
[11:37] <Chipaca> ubuntu-snappy-cli: /usr/share/man/man1/snappy.1.gz
[11:37] <sergiusens> Chipaca, yes
[11:37] <dholbach> Chipaca, you're right, thanks O:-)
[11:38] <Chipaca> sergiusens: i did this when i added 'snappy man' :)
[11:38] <sergiusens> let me rephrase, **I had a hard time** and then you created a working branch ;-)
[11:39] <sergiusens> dholbach, there is no man in ubuntu core though
[11:39] <dholbach> sergiusens, no worries - this would be for importing into the dev site
[11:39] <Chipaca> dholbach: note the manpage also lists internal commands, as it's a zero-effort automatic thing generated from the thing that does commandline parsing
[11:40] <dholbach> Chipaca, that's good to know
[11:40] <Chipaca> dholbach: ideally those internal ones would be pruned (but upstream isn't amenable to patches)
[11:41] <dholbach> mvo, the last ubuntu-snappy-cli uploads to that ppa are from july
[11:41] <mvo> Chipaca: for some unexplained reason that has changed recently and the patch to hide stuff is in. at the same time the drop-priv stuff will soon vanish
[11:41] <Chipaca> mvo: seriously? woo! we should merge that in
[11:41] <mvo> dholbach: hm, then you will need the daily one from ppa:snappy-dev/image
[11:42] <mvo> Chipaca: yeah, no explanation just the github message "merged #XY"
[11:42] <dholbach> mvo, great - thanks
[11:42] <Chipaca> mvo: there's 5 internal commands, not just drop-priv. And some more that could probably do with being reclassified as internal.
[11:43] <Chipaca> mvo: e.g. booted is internal, but firstboot isn't?
[11:43] <Chipaca> ah, wait, first_boot is
[11:43] * Chipaca learns to read
[13:35] <ogra_> hmpf
[13:36] <ogra_> sergiusens, Chipaca, do we have some kind of "inetd plugin" in snapcraft ? i wonder how to snap up a service that relies on it
[13:36] <Chipaca> ogra_: we do not
[13:36] <ogra_> ah sad
[13:36] <Chipaca> ogra_: we'd have to expose one more service flag for that
[13:36] <Chipaca> which is totally doable, but needs doing :-)
[13:36] <ogra_> well, not sure if thats very common
[13:37] <ogra_> (people packaging inetd depending services)
[13:37] <Chipaca> ogra_: OTOH, all you need to turn an inetd plugin into a regular service is netcat
[13:37] <ogra_> yeash
[13:37] <ogra_> thats my fallback idea
[13:37] * Chipaca oversimplifying complex engineering problems since 1976
[13:37] <ogra_> i'm just wondering if it is a common task ... in which case a snapcraft option would make sense
[13:38] <Chipaca> ogra_: file a bug, see how many people me-too it?
[13:38] <ogra_> yeah, will do
[13:39] <Chipaca> ogra_: don't forget to say «don't comment with “me too”», so people comment with “me too”
[13:39] <ogra_> +1
[13:39] <ogra_> :D
[13:40] <ogra_> geez
[13:40] <ogra_> so i tried to snap up approx (which caused the above question) ... and just noticed the resulting snap is 74MB !!
[13:40] <ogra_> thats half an OS !
[13:40] <ogra_> (or even a full one)
[13:44] <sergiusens> ogra_, build it from source!
[13:45] <ogra_> heh
[13:45] <ogra_> crazy talk !
[13:54] <Chipaca> ogra_: https://gist.github.com/chipaca/58552b58a1a75cd1607b
[13:55] * Chipaca hugs rsalveti
[13:56] <ogra_> Chipaca, dude ! why is that not snapped !
[13:57] <Chipaca> ogra_: because i'd need to change it for small memory systems
[13:57] <Chipaca> ogra_: or clean it up
[13:57] <Chipaca> ogra_: maybe even merge in whatever's gone on with TinyHTTPProxy in the 3+ years since I did this to it
[14:03] * rsalveti hugs Chipaca
[14:27] <rtg> lool, hey, can you have a look at git://kernel.ubuntu.com/rtg/kernel-snap.git and tell me why my snapcraft.yaml doesn't copy files into the snap from staging ?
[14:28] <ogra_> rtg, did you find a way to generate the initrd yet ?
[14:28] <rtg> ogra: I ruthlessly butchered rootstock to do so
[14:28] <ogra_> lol
[14:29] <ogra_> you should really take the livecd-rootfs snippet for that :)
[14:29] <ogra_> rootstock adds a massive overhead
[14:30] <rtg> ogra_, the first thing I did was to only go one level deep. I didn't need to do nested qemu. hence the major surgery, but I did extract the concepts I needed.
[14:31] <ogra_> well, you need the nested qemu chroot if you are actually buildin for another arch
[14:31] <ogra_> but only then
[14:32] <ogra_> beyond that a simple "debootstrap --variant=minbase" should be fine
[14:32] <rtg> for now I'm just trying to get amd64 working
[14:33] <ogra_> debootstrap --variant=minbase + PPA setups for the different special kernels + the snappy specific packages needed in the initrd
[14:33] <ogra_> that should be all you need
[14:33] <ogra_> then just install your meta and pull out the files from the tree you need
[14:33] <rtg> ogra_, what snappy specific packages do I need in the initrd ?
[14:34] <ogra_> initramfs-tools-ubuntu-core at least ... i have to chekc livecd-rootfs
[14:34] <rtg> ogra_, that sounds familiar
[14:34] <ogra_> (there are a few more)
[14:35] <sergiusens> rtg, how about building the kernel instead of using the deb?
[14:35] <sergiusens> for people building alternate trees
[14:36] <rtg> sergiusens, that is the next example I'm gonna work on
[14:36] <sergiusens> great
[14:36] <sergiusens> rtg, after we have this I guess I'll start using your stuff to create a proper plugin that wraps all this in
[14:36] <rtg> sergiusens, I thought I'd do a snap for each reference kernel, plus one as an example for building from source
[14:41] <lool> rtg: you need to make install to DESTDIR
[14:42] <rtg> lool, in the Makefile plugin ?
[14:42] <lool> rtg: in the Makefile itself, yup
[14:42] <lool> rtg: snapcraft sets DESTDIR to the right di
[14:42] <lool> dir
[14:42] <rtg> lool, cool, now I see that in the examoples
[14:49] <fgimenez> elopio_, the jenkins instance is ready to go, you have access to the canonistack dashboard as the ues-snappy-integration-tests user, right?
[14:50] <elopio_> fgimenez: yes.
[14:50] <mvo> fgimenez: is it possible to run the new integration test machinery against the branch https://github.com/mvo5/snappy/tree/feature/native-security-policygen-regen ? or is that not possilbe (yet?)
[14:51] <fgimenez> elopio, ok, it's created for that user, there's also a floating ip assigned to it, the webhook should point to it
[14:51] <fgimenez> elopio, sure, the -src flag is the branch and the new repo flag the repo location, like https://github.com/user/snappy
[14:52] <fgimenez> elopio, in that case -src native-security-policygen-regen -repo https://github.com/mvo5/snappy
[14:53] <fgimenez> mvo, ^ :)
[14:53] <elopio> mvo: ^
[14:53] <elopio> mvo, fgimenez, but we can't yet generate an image with taking the snappy deb from the branch, right? We can just overwrite the snappy binary for now.
[14:54] <fgimenez> elopio, yes, snappy and snapd binaries
[14:54] <mvo> elopio: that should be ok, I'm curious if the integration test shows any regressions. if its a lot of work for you I can just merge and see the results from the normal integration test run. this needs to go in, but of course the less disruption the better :)
[14:54] <fgimenez> mvo, whenever you make a PR or add commits to an existing one the job is triggered anyway, once the webhook is in place
[14:56] <mvo> fgimenez: ok, is it worth waiting for the webhook, i.e. is this happening really soon? no problem if not, I'm ponering if I merge now or wait a little bit, but I'm more on the merge-now side currently
[14:57] <fgimenez> mvo you can set it up right now :) this is the url http://162.213.34.171:8081/ghprbhook/, the events ticked should be "Pull request" and "Issue comment"
[14:58] <fgimenez> mvo, it is in the "Settings -> Webhooks & services" section of the repo
[14:58] <mvo> fgimenez: aha, nice. let me try that
[14:59] <fgimenez> mvo, the jenkins instance is at http://162.213.34.171:8080, only accessible from the vpn
[15:01] <elopio> fgimenez: I'm not sure where I got the idea that uboot was not changing snappy_ab on update. Maybe it was a bug, or maybe it came from the voices in my head.
[15:02] <fgimenez> elopio, :) iirc i've seen it not being changed, anyway now the code is a lot cleaner
[15:03] <ogra_> rtg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13299329/ try turning that snippet into a script and you should get something that is identical to the device tarballs that livecd-rootfs creates today ... without all the rootstock overhead
[15:04] <ogra_> (there are some live-build specifics in there you need to replace but thats minor)
[15:05] <rtg> ogra_, I thought the goal was to build a snap, not a device tarball
[15:06] <ogra_> rtg, you want the same contents in both
[15:06] <ogra_> they should be absolutely identical except that one is a squashfs img and the other is a tarball
[15:07] <rtg> ogra_, even the YAML file ?
[15:07] <ogra_> thats something mvo needs to answer ... :)
[15:08] <ogra_> you definitely want the same initrd and you want the right PPA used for the right suabarch
[15:08] <ogra_> and afaik mvo used the existing device tarballs during the all snaps development as input
[15:08] <rtg> ok. I am close to being able to build the snap. I have some permissions issues. then I'll look at this.
[15:21] <asac> would personally be awesome if we could make the kernel plugin capable of cross compiling
[15:22] <asac> rtg: ogra_ sergiusens: ^
[15:22] <asac> just as input
[15:22] <rtg> asac, when built from source it certainly will be.
[15:22] <sergiusens> asac, I'm fine with per plugin x-compile
[15:23] <ogra_> asac, trivial ...
[15:23] <ogra_> (but needs qemu-user-static for the initrd chroot ... that will limit us)
[15:24] <asac> rtg: are we doing the "built from debs in archive" variant first?
[15:24] <asac> guess yeah, then its later
[15:24] <rtg> asac, yup, that is what I'm working on
[15:24] <asac> sergiusens: isnt x- something we used for something else?
[15:24] <ogra_> asac, rtg, the initrd generation will always have to be deb based FWIW
[15:25] <ogra_> we dont have a way to "just generate" one without that
[15:25] <rtg> ogra_, fortunately the kernel makefile has a deb target
[15:25] <asac> i thoguht we do generic initrd that is in the OS
[15:26] <asac> so we dont need that in kernel
[15:26] <ogra_> we *could* do the same we do for touch and actually geneare the initrd inside a package build ... but then you need to be sure to never need modules for booting
[15:26] <asac> mvo: ?
[15:26] <sergiusens> asac, x as in cross
[15:26] <sergiusens> not sure what else you speak of ;-)
[15:26] <mvo> asac: sorry in a meeting
[15:26] <asac> sergiusens: yeah, thought we used x- for another implicit meaning... like local plugins, but think we moved away from that
[15:26] <asac> all fine
[15:26] <ogra_> asac, we cant ... specifically with the new requirement for squashfs
[15:26] <ogra_> you need the modules
[15:26] <asac> ogra_: i think its the spec to have initd in OS snap
[15:26] <sergiusens> asac, we have that still (x for extension)
[15:26] <asac> and just say kernel folks have to built in what they need
[15:26] <ogra_> thats not possible
[15:26] <ogra_> you need to find the rootfs from the initrd
[15:27] <asac> well, it technically would get copied
[15:27] <ogra_> which means you need to support the disk type, controller, filesystem
[15:27] <asac> to the boot paertition from the OS
[15:27] <asac> but the one and only initrd is in the OS snap ... so we dont need to build it turning kernel buil;d
[15:27] <ogra_> asac, that still wont have the right contents
[15:27] <asac> thats how i understand at least one of the proopsals
[15:27] <ogra_> you need the kernel modules inside the initrd
[15:27] <asac> ogra_: we can say you cant put them there\
[15:27] <asac> like what you suggested for long time :)
[15:27] <ogra_> then you cant boot
[15:27] <mvo> asac: generic initrd is on the roadmap *but* right now we need the squashfs and nls modules (iso8859) so we can't have a module-less iniitrd
[15:28] <sergiusens> ogra_, asac rtg can't we make initrd mount the modules from the kernel?
[15:28] <ogra_> asac, if we can have it module less, we can do the same as for touch
[15:28] <ogra_> sergiusens, you still need to find them
[15:28] <asac> so you need modules only in the initd if you need them to mount the rootfs afaik
[15:28] <asac> so thats disk drivers, filesystem types etc.
[15:28] <ogra_> sergiusens, so all needed modules for that need to be there
[15:28] <ogra_> asac, right
[15:28] <rtg> sergiusens, yeah, what ogra_ said
[15:29] <asac> once you have rootfs (or a partition that hosts the modules) you can go and load modules
[15:29] <sergiusens> ogra_, then it is a no brainer to just include it in the kernel
[15:29] <ogra_> asac, network cards for things like remote keys for encrypted rootfs
[15:29] <asac> hmm
[15:29] <sergiusens> it is not really a generic kernel, is it?
[15:29] <asac> well, so there is still stuff that is rather a configuration etc.
[15:29] <ogra_> sergiusens, if we actually want saushfs inside all kernels, sure ;)
[15:29] <ogra_> sergiusens, it is -generic
[15:29] <ogra_> thats the prob :)
[15:29] <asac> dont think the factory keys would go into the initrd ... at least i never anticipated that
[15:29] <sergiusens> ogra_, it always going to be loaded for core
[15:29] <ogra_> asac, no, the keys live on a remote server
[15:30] <ogra_> asac, but you need to obtain them via network
[15:30] <ogra_> at least in one specific arch we support today
[15:30] <ogra_> sergiusens, from where ?
[15:31] <sergiusens> ogra_, from the kernel itself
[15:31] <ogra_> note that i would love nothing more than to use the same setup we have for the touch initrd in core
[15:31] <ogra_> but as long as we hard depend on modules we cant
[15:37] <rtg> sergiusens, how do you inspect a snap ? seems like there was a dpkg option that I read about somewhere
[15:38] <ogra_> rtg, dpkg-deb -x /part/to.snap
[15:38] <ogra_> that will unpack it
[15:38] <sergiusens> rtg, -c should work to just list
[15:38] <ogra_> or that :P
[15:39] <rtg> alrighty, looks like my snap has stuff in it. would y'all care to clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/rtg/kernel-snap.git and tell me if I'm on crack ?
[15:41] <ogra_> rtg, you definitely want the snappy-image ppa in your chroot ...
[15:41] <ogra_> that often contains a newer initramfs-tools-ubuntu-core
[15:42] <ogra_> beyond that the rootstock bit looks good
[15:42] <ogra_> err
[15:42] <rtg> ogra_, do you intend to use the PPA for production as well ?
[15:42] <ogra_> rtg, why $BOOTLOADER ?
[15:42] <ogra_> the bootloader has to go into the oem (or in the future "gadget") snap
[15:43] <ogra_> rtg, yes
[15:43] <rtg> ograthe bootloader only has an impact when installing the kernel in the chroot. it is otherwise unsued
[15:43] <ogra_> the PPA is used during distro freezes etc
[15:43] <ogra_> rtg, we dont use any of the distro setup for bootloaders anyway
[15:43] <rtg> ogra_, ok, I'll get that PPA logic added.
[15:44] <ogra_> (no update-grub in grub setups, no flash-kernel for uboot)
[15:44] <ogra_> in fact you would break stuff using them
[15:45] <ogra_> the rootfs should have all you need bootloader wise (binaries) ... the oem/gadget snap should have all confguration for bootloader setups
[15:45] <rtg> ogra_, but there is no grub logic in the kernel snap, right ?
[15:46] <ogra_> right
[15:46] <ogra_> neither grub binaries nor config
[15:47] <rtg> ogra_, so run snapcraft on this project and inspect the snap. I think it is right
[15:47] <rtg> aside from needing the PPA
[15:48] <ogra_> rtg, oh, and you want linux-image-signed on all amd64 installs
[15:48] <rtg> ogra_, easy enough
[15:48] <ogra_> and preferably even a higher meta
[15:48] <ogra_> like linux-signed
[15:49] <rtg> what do you need the headers for in the chroot ?
[15:49] <ogra_> so you get linux-firmware ... and where wanted linux-image-extra installed
[15:49] <ogra_> you dont need the headers ... but then you simply dont copy them before the squashing
[15:49] <rtg> ogra_, I'll check, but I think those meta package pull in the right bits
[15:49] <ogra_> but you need firmware
[15:50] <rtg> ogra_, I think the kernel depends on linux-firmware
[15:50] <ogra_> ok
[15:50] <ogra_> on -extra too ?
[15:51] <rtg> ogra_, yup
[15:52] <rtg> ogra_, I think what we want installed is linux-signed-image-generic.
[15:52] <ogra_> then it should indeed be fine
[15:52] <ogra_> yeah
[15:57] <rtg> ogra_, this PPA ? ppa:snappy-dev/image
[15:57] <ogra_> rtg, yeah
[18:08] <rtg> sergiusens, ogra_: I've got a kernel snap which appears to install OK in a KVM, but I can't figure out where all the /lib or /boot bits have gone, nor does the new kernel get booted. Any thoughts ?
[18:09] <ogra_> rtg, well, it needs to land in /boot/grub/a|b somehow currently ... not sure if it still needs to in the all snaps case
[18:09] <ogra_> mvo_ is your man here
[18:10] <rtg> ogra_, is there a way to specify which a|b ?
[18:10] <ogra_> the one thats not in use usually
[18:11] <rtg> that is what I thought. perhaps I'll dump my troubles on the snappy mailing list
[18:11] <ogra_> but all that stuff has completely changed in all-snaps so i cant tell if it is still the case for such a setup
[18:21] <sergiusens> rtg, the only person who really knows the details here is mvo_
[18:22] <rtg> sergiusens, any idea how you force an a|b switch ?
[18:23] <sergiusens> rtg, an install should make the switch, it is all managed by grub, so grubenv away (look at grub.cfg for the exact vars) or just edit grub.cfg
[18:26] <rtg> hmm, hacking grubenv was fatal
[18:36] <mkarliner> newbie question. I've made a snap on AMD64 , how do I create a version for RPi?
[18:51] <tedg> mkarliner: Probably easiest way is to just build it on the RPi itself.
[18:52] <mkarliner> But all the instructions are for using snapcraft
[18:53] <mkarliner> That is, all the 'create a snap' tutorials start with apt-get install etc, etc.
[18:53] <tedg> mkarliner: Yes, you probably want to setup snapcraft in an LXD or Docker container and then run it.
[18:53] <tedg> mkarliner: We do realize this is non-ideal right now, working on better solutions.
[18:54] <mkarliner> I've done that, what I'm trying to understand is how to make the cross platform target, or is there a native way
[18:55] <tedg> No, we don't really have a way to cross-compile
[18:55] <mkarliner> OK, so is there a tutorial on how to create a snap on a RpI?
[18:57] <tedg> There's one in progress, but I don't think it is completed yet.
[18:58] <mkarliner> Can you give me any clues?
[19:08] <dwaite> is it possible to grab (or self-build) a newer release of docker on snappy?
[19:14] <dwaite> unlike apt, it doesn't seem I can just add an external source to get this, and I don't see anything in the tools to enable me to build a framework, just apps
[19:14] <dwaite> is this a limitation of snappy?
[19:23] <tedg> mkarliner: You need to install lxd or docker on your RPi and then you can build with snapcraft. That's the tutorial in a nutshell.
[19:23] <mkarliner> Thanks, I'll give it a go
[19:23] <tedg> dwaite: I think they're all built by hand right now. Generally, most things don't need to be frameworks though.
[19:35] <serg_> Hi
[19:36] <serg_> how can i try my snappy app before deploying into ubuntu store?
[19:38] <kyrofa> serg_, you've created the .snap?
[19:38] <serg_> yes
[19:38] <kyrofa> serg_, do you actually have Ubuntu Core installed anywhere? On a device or a VM?
[19:39] <serg_> virtualbox
[19:40] <kyrofa> serg_, just sideload it there
[19:40] <serg_> sorry, can you explain it step-by-step?
[19:41] <kyrofa> serg_, sure! First, get your .snap into the VM
[19:41] <kyrofa> serg_, then you can install it with `snappy install <my_snap>.snap`
[19:41] <dwaite> Snappy looks interesting, but limiting the infrastructure I can actually use to older "supported" versions just won't work for my environment. I need the new networking features in recent docker releases.
[19:42] <kyrofa> serg_, assuming you have SSH access to the VM, just use scp to get the .snap on there
[19:43] <dwaite> the autopilot updates are really nice, but not if it limits what I can actually run
[19:45] <serg_> thank you, but now i have other problem
[19:45] <serg_> No signature, or no origin signature
[19:45] <serg_> which is this?
[19:47] <serg_> how can i bypass this verification?
[19:48] <rtg> serg_, sudo snappy install --allow-unauthenticated
[19:48] <serg_> too much thanks
[21:06] <rtg> sergiusens, so where do I find a 16.04 KVM image ?
[21:06] <sergiusens> rtg, mvo has one in his people.c.c, let me see.
[21:06] <sergiusens> rtg, http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/all-snaps/
[21:06] <sergiusens> rtg, there's a u-d-f there that should work too
[21:11] <rtg> sergiusens, hmm, that image isn't exactly network capable AFAICT
[21:20] <sergiusens> rtg, I am not sure, haven't tested it
[21:21] <sergiusens> rtg, you can try and u-d-f with what is there and using your snap
[21:21] <rtg> sergiusens, well, I'll have to get back to it tomorrow. I'm EOD
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[06:01] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:08] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:12] <anton> mornings all
[06:56] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:40] <Kilos> morning everyone
[08:40] <Kilos> and inetpro
[08:40] <thatgraemeguy> 'lo
[09:09] <pieter2627> so does anyone think we might have rain today?
[09:09] * pieter2627 hopes so
[10:50] <theblazehen> Hope so too. This rm commands been running like 27 hours now...
[10:54] <Vlekkie> Ola
[10:54] <theblazehen> sup Vlekkie
[10:55] <Vlekkie> Not much, just sad, wbu?
[10:55] <theblazehen> I'm alright
[10:57] <Vlekkie> Everyone else sleeping or something?
[10:58] <theblazehen> Been quiet last few days
[10:59] <Vlekkie> But IRC seems a bit dead compared to a few years back
[10:59] <theblazehen> Yeah
[11:02] <MaNI> everybody too busy trying to stay afloat in our shitty economy, no time for luxuries like IRC anymore
[11:02] <Vlekkie> Allot of people don't know what IRC is nowadays, so not surprised tho lol
[11:03] <Vlekkie> True ^
[11:03] <Vlekkie> Mani: hows it going?
[11:04] <MaNI> generally okay, november always the worst month of the year
[11:04] <MaNI> you?
[11:05] <Vlekkie> Fine thanks
[11:50] <inetpro> Kilos: have you had rain yet?
[11:51] <inetpro> here in town we had some coming down nicely for a few minutes then suddenly all gone again
[12:30] <Sxuza> ola
[12:31] <Sxuza> it rained here last noght
[12:31] <Sxuza> night
[12:31] <Sxuza> East London
[12:31] <Sxuza> seems to me, we're not bad hit by this "lack of water" thingie
[12:31] <Sxuza> or mayb its me im so ignorant , i dont know
[13:11] <Kilos> not yet inetpro just the cold
[13:11] <Kilos> just woke up shivvering
[13:29] * who_da_fly jumps on Kilos
[13:31] <who_da_fly> Yeesh, I go away and everyone disappears.
[13:31] <Kilos> ohi who_da_fly
[13:32] <Kilos> sorry was outside checking the weather
[13:33] <who_da_fly> Kilos: I'm in Mozambique now.
[13:33] <Kilos> oh y
[13:33] <Kilos> m
[13:33] <Kilos> my
[13:33] <Kilos> for how long who_da_fly
[13:33] <Kilos> just business hey
[13:34] <Kilos> i saw the boys with the braai
[13:34] <Kilos> well sitting under the umbrella
[13:34] <who_da_fly> Till Saturday. Yes, we literally went straight from the airport to their office, sat down and started working :-(
[13:34] <who_da_fly> yeah, they were so cute.
[13:35] <Kilos> ya
[13:35] <Kilos> this stupid laptop gives weak sounds with alerts
[13:36] <Kilos> even bell.ogg is feeble
[13:36] <Kilos> so i sleep past most things
[13:36] <Kilos> its busy trying to storm here, so power might go
[13:37] <who_da_fly> OK. We had a storm last night. Lots of lightning and HUGE rain drops
[13:42] <Kilos> do you understand portugese
[13:42] <Kilos> hehe
[13:42] <who_da_fly> no, not at all
[13:42] <who_da_fly> been fun trying to buy coffee
[13:43] <Kilos> hahaha
[13:43] <who_da_fly> I threw one back at them... I spoke in Afrikaans
[13:43] <Kilos> their seafood used to be very cheap
[13:43] <Kilos> hahaha
[13:45] <Kilos> are you alone there who_da_fly
[13:46] <Kilos> or did you go in a business group
[13:56] <who_da_fly> Kilos: I'm here with 2 colleagues
[13:57] <Kilos> thats better
[14:09] <who_da_fly> Kilos: how much does a 500meg data bundle cost?
[14:10] <Kilos> sec ill check
[14:10] <Kilos> R69
[14:12] <who_da_fly> Kilos: which SP?
[14:12] <who_da_fly> network
[14:12] <Kilos> telkom mobile
[14:12] <Kilos> do they have it there?
[14:13] <who_da_fly> No. They have Vodacom. Vodacom SA is R100 for a 500 meg bundle.
[14:14] <Kilos> ouch
[14:14] <Kilos> telkom is 1g for R99
[14:15] <who_da_fly> Here in Mozambique, it's R32 for 500 megs
[14:15] <Kilos> nice
[14:17] <inetpro> who_da_fly: how much for 1GB there?
[14:22] <inetpro> R32 for 500MB (6c per MB) is not bad
[14:23] <inetpro> Kilos: have you checked the time based data bundles of Telkom yet?
[14:23] <Kilos> nope inetpro
[14:23] <inetpro> you can get 1GB for R59
[14:23] <Kilos> it doesnt show on the online thing'
[14:23] <inetpro> sadly just valid over a weekend
[14:24] <Kilos> what kinda time base
[14:24] <Kilos> haha
[14:24] <inetpro> weekend
[14:24] <Kilos> im hoping to leave for aus before my data runs out'
[14:24] <inetpro> or R39 for 500MB
[14:25] <Kilos> waiting for online visa app to be approved
[14:25] <inetpro> wow!
[14:25] <Kilos> the for 3 months ill chat to you from 9 hours ahead of you
[14:25] <Kilos> then
[14:27] <Kilos> weekend only bundles are kinda pointless i think
[14:27] <Kilos> to me anyway
[14:28] <inetpro> could be useful to download an ISO
[14:31] <Kilos> oh ya
[14:31] <Kilos> my next iso download is 16.04
[14:31] <who_da_fly> inetpro: 200MT, so R64
[14:32] <inetpro> interesting
[14:40] <inetpro> oh but hang on who_da_fly, it looks like those prepaid plans for 512MB and 1GB are just valid for 7 days
[14:40] <Kilos> somewhere is gonna get some rain i think
[14:40] <Kilos> lotsa clouds and thunder
[14:41] <inetpro> who_da_fly: good enough for you on your short trip but rather costly if you had to live on it like Kilos does
[14:41] <who_da_fly> inetpro: I don't need it longer
[14:41] <who_da_fly> who_da_fly: true
[14:42] <Kilos> ya
[14:42] <who_da_fly> gah. referencing myself. how silly
[14:42] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:42] <Kilos> old age
[14:42] <inetpro> anyway, don't think oom Kilos or any one of us would want to relocate to MZ any time soon :-)
[14:43] <Kilos> nope
[14:44] <Kilos> at one time i actually thought of going there and running a forklift repair business
[14:44] <Kilos> apparently the docks are full of broke ones
[14:44] <Kilos> broken
[15:03] <who_da_fly> Kilos: it's almost always warm here
[15:03] <Kilos> ya that place is more tropical
[15:05] <Kilos> even more so than durbs
[15:06] <Kilos> mangoes and pawpaws used to be dirt cheap there
[15:06] <Kilos> and avos i think
[15:06] <Kilos> many years ago
[15:07] <Kilos> hi Audio
[15:07] <Kilos> you a noisy kinda person?
[15:07] <Kilos> or musical
[15:07] <Kilos> rain starting inetpro
[15:08] <Kilos> you gona get wet
[15:12] <who_da_fly> Kilos: yes, mangoes grow everywhere here
[15:12] <who_da_fly> and there's a papaya tree in the yard behind the office
[16:13] <Kilos> tower got such a shock when it started raining it dropped signal
[16:13] <Kilos> sigh
[16:14] <Kilos> you wet inetpro
[16:14] <Kilos> or did you get wet
[16:35] <inetpro> Kilos-: I got wet but I survived
[16:35] <Kilos-> yay
[16:35] <Kilos-> weve had 2mm
[16:35] <inetpro> luckily just got through before the big hailstorm now
[16:35] <Kilos-> wow
[16:39] <inetpro> poor Loerie (Kwêvoël/go-away-bird) even landed in the swimming pool with the stones from above
[16:40] <Kilos-> eiah
[16:40] <Kilos-> eiah
[16:40] <Kilos-> ai!
[16:40] <Kilos-> eish
[16:48] <inetpro> hope it survives after drying it up a bit and releasing it again
[16:49] <Kilos-> shame man
[17:08] <inetpro> Kilos-: 20mm
[17:17] <Kilos-> wow
[17:18] <Kilos-> we had 7mm
[17:38] <Kilos-> Audioburn feel frre to say hi to us
[17:38] <Kilos-> free
[17:40] <magespawn> good evening
[17:40] <Kilos-> hi magespawn
[18:00] <magespawn> hey Kilos-
[18:01] <Trixar_za> I noticed something nice about current MineTest - new V6 areas come with iced over water and layers of snow.
[18:15] <magespaw1> Selecting best server based on latency...
[18:15] <magespaw1> Hosted by Pocketinet Communications (Walla Walla, WA) [98.03 km]: 15.835 ms
[18:15] <magespaw1> Testing download speed........................................
[18:15] <magespaw1> Download: 527.77 Mbit/s
[18:15] <magespaw1> Testing upload speed..................................................
[18:15] <magespaw1> Upload: 163.16 Mbit/s
[18:16] <magespaw1> brb
[18:17] <magespawn> better
[18:17] <magespawn> nice speed hey
[18:18] <Kilos> jsable yeah
[18:18] <Kilos> usable
[18:19] <magespawn> now that would be nice if that was my local speed
[18:19] <Kilos> either im getting blinder or my fingers are getting stupider
[18:19] <magespawn> fingers can be very stupid some days
[18:19] <Kilos> haha
[18:23] <Kilos> we ned to do this here as well
[18:23] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay
[18:24] <Kilos> need
[18:24] <magespawn> amazing, connecting through vodacom i get temporary failure in name resolution, through cellc everything works fine
[18:25] <magespawn> every night between 8 and 10
[18:25] <Kilos> magespawn what speedtest is that?
[18:30] <Kilos> my internet is very slow tonight
[18:32] <magespawn> from my amazon server
[18:33] <magespawn> there seems to be something going, i wish i knew what it was
[18:35] <Kilos> weird
[19:10] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:31] <magespawn> bed time, good night all
[20:35] <gremble> Cheers magespawn
[20:48] <kulelu88> yo
[20:48] <gremble> Hey kulelu88
[20:49] <kulelu88> hey gremble my man
[20:49] <gremble> How are you kulelu88
[20:51] <kulelu88> fekked man. this work is soul-draining. hows you?
[20:52] <gremble> Finished my first exam and got a question wrong I knew I knew before hand :P
[20:52] <gremble> But I think I did fine
[20:53] <gremble> I recently took one of those bloomberg aptitute tests. got a dismal score because I couldn't finish two sections, I did however, achieve quite high on everything else. Now I got my first CV request from a company. Quite surprised at it
[20:54] <kulelu88> via the bloomberg aptitude thing?
[20:59] <gremble> Yup
[21:00] <kulelu88> it must be quant firms
[21:00] <gremble> I scored in the top 95% for investment banking. I've never investement banked shit. XD
[21:01] <gremble> reverse that score. top 5%
[21:01] <kulelu88> I also took it and only got 1 CV request. never bothered
[21:01] <gremble> 95th percentile. I can't math
[21:01] <gremble> I need a job
[21:01] <gremble> I will take this cv request
[21:01] <kulelu88> company name?
[21:02] <gremble> Don't know until I open the request
[21:02] <gremble> I don't have a CV yet so I have to make one before I open the request
[21:03] <kulelu88> must be a phishing expedition (unless they are confirmed local)
[21:04] <gremble> It is local. Campus based apparently
[21:05] <kulelu88> for a quant gig, I'd only go with JPMorgan, Meryll Lynch/Linch or GS
[21:05] <kulelu88> and get a transfer to New York after 12 months
[21:05] <gremble> I'm still at university after 12 months
[21:05] <gremble> :P
[21:08] <kulelu88> they still protesting?
[21:08] <kulelu88> I always knew de la rey was a bitch though
[21:10] <gremble> No, we've stopped for like 2 weeks now
[21:10] <gremble> After the Friay at the union buildings we were done
[21:11] <gremble> Monday she had a meeting with us, Tuesday we were back in class :P
[21:14] <kulelu88> At least they kept it classy and didn't go mad like the TUT students
[21:15] <gremble> Yup. TUT has been striking. But the management at TUT is lackadaisical at best, simply apathetic at best
[21:15] <gremble> So their frustration is understandable
[21:16] <gremble> UP was quick to mobilise and listen
[21:18] <kulelu88> those jews and afrikaaners running Tuks dont waste time. they probably mobilized their billions to qualm the students
[21:18] <kulelu88> I hear that some info came out that the endowment is +50 billion?
[21:20] <gremble> Yes. A metric shit ton of money appeared. It was magical. It means that I might still get to get my degree ;P
[21:21] <kulelu88> I still hate the way they run it. As most alumni have said of local varsities, get in, get the degree and get out
[21:24] <gremble> I want to do Hons at Wits or UCT
[21:25] <kulelu88> UCT = just too expensive for regular people
[21:25] <gremble> I'm have to get a bursary
[21:25] <gremble> :P
[21:25] <gremble> Going to probably apply for both mathematics and philosophy and see which one I get for
[21:26] <kulelu88> bursaries don't cover accommodation afaik
[21:27] <gremble> I will live in the library
[21:27] <gremble> Shower in the sprinklers
[21:28] <kulelu88> Like Stallman?
[21:28] <gremble> Stall-man sounds like a shitty superhero
[21:29] <kulelu88> A female who studied at UCT told me that UCTs library is popular for sexual intercourse, if you are a rugby player, etc.
[21:29] <kulelu88> Search for Richard Stallman. I'm surprised you don't know who he is
[21:29] <gremble> I know how he is. I just felt like making a poop joke
[21:30] <kulelu88> oh hahaha
[21:30] <kulelu88> I did really snigger there
[21:32] <kulelu88> at least when they start having sex in the lib, you can say "STOP, that's my dining room!!!"
[21:33] <gremble> "STOP! Hammer time"
[21:34] <gremble> "STOP! Collaborate and listen!"
[21:35] <kulelu88> I'm so bored that I am even contemplating taking a pay cut just to get something more interesting to do
[21:35] <gremble> Why is that?
[21:36] <gremble> What are you currently doing?
[21:37] <kulelu88> I currently make sure sites are working properly
[21:39] <gremble> Hmm I can understand the slight tedium involved. Why not learn a new skill and get another job?
[21:40] <kulelu88> jobs are hard to come by it seems. sending a CV is like entering into the abyss
[21:40] <kulelu88> oh yeah, make sure your CV isn't too long
[21:41] <kulelu88> they won't spend more than 30 seconds looking at it
[21:44] <gremble> Luckily I don't have that much to put on
[21:44] <gremble> :P
[21:44] <kulelu88> if you do 2 pages, that's a solid start
[21:44] <kulelu88> 3 pages and you're average
[21:44] <kulelu88> 4 or more GTFO
[21:45] <gremble> I don't think I have enough shit for more than 1.5 :<
[21:45] <gremble> I've sort of just been existing most of my life XD
[21:46] <kulelu88> I've seen school-leavers load their CVs with accolades enough to fill 6 pages and its like >.<
[21:49] <gremble> Ya. My school accolades are pretty much that I finished school with marks to get into university
[21:50] <kulelu88> no sports?
[21:50] <kulelu88> math olympiads?
[21:51] <gremble> Nope. Lived too far so didn't want my mother to drive extra. Didn't want her to pay extra for sport stuff, cause we're poor.
[21:54] <kulelu88> Pretoria has too many wealthy white people, so saying you're poor is quite strange
[21:56] <gremble> Hahaha I wouldn't suggest it though.
[21:56] <gremble> Being poor that it is
[21:57] <kulelu88> there's a sad difference to being white poor and black poor though
[21:58] <gremble> Yes. There is. I have running water and a house
[21:58] <gremble> And a car
[21:59] <gremble> But the struggle is still real. I've went to sleep hungry at times..
[22:00] <kulelu88> because the food being served for supper wasn't edible?
[22:01] <gremble> Ha.
[22:03] <kulelu88> Do you feel obligated to look after your folks in their old age?
[22:04] <gremble> She won't be able to afford being old.
[22:04] <gremble> I'll have to
[22:04] <gremble> My mother recently got her first job paying more than R10k p/m
[22:05] <gremble> She has a degree in Occupational Therapy but worked as a temp secretary because she was "over qualified" for more permanent admin positions and couldn't get an OT job.
[22:05] <gremble> She's working as an OT now though, so I am glad.
[22:06] <kulelu88> you have any brothers?
[22:06] <gremble> Yup. A brother and a sibling
[22:06] <gremble> I mean sister
[22:07] <gremble> Both younger. He is working as an Earthmoving Mechanic
[22:07] <gremble> She's busy with matric exams
[22:07] <kulelu88> aah so there's 2 of you then
[22:08] <kulelu88> don't end up as 'those' guys who let their mom stay with the sister in old age
[22:08] <gremble> I'll try.
[22:09] <gremble> Don't plan to. Would prefer she have her own place/autonomy
[22:10] <kulelu88> what's your exam schedule like?
[22:11] <gremble> Not bad. Wrote today. Write friday and then next week Thursday. Then I am done
[22:11] <gremble> Unless I have a supp (which I doubt)
[22:12] <kulelu88> then 2 months holiday
[22:13] <gremble> Yup. Get some interesting work done. I have formal logic to get through that I have been slacking off with this semester and I have writing to do xD
[22:15] <kulelu88> if you have the capacity, try building a startup in those 2 months. Biggest chance of your life to be your own boss from the day you graduate
[22:15] <gremble> I've thought about doing something like that, but idea's are scarce.
[22:16] <gremble> I've thought about doing some aerodynamics to build commercial drones, because we currently import those from Europe
[22:16] <kulelu88> ideas are cheap. find something people need
[22:16] <kulelu88> that's too capital intensive
[22:18] <gremble> Yup. And skills intensive. I can work with the materials, and I have the skills to prototype, but not managing the software/hardware
[22:19] <kulelu88> sell some stuff via e-commerce
[22:20] <kulelu88> your sister is a teen, find some thing teens need and sell it online
[22:20] <kulelu88> custom jewellery or something
[22:22] <gremble> That is also pretty capital intensive. Stock and such. Perhaps... hmm. I'll put my head together after thursday. I'm sure I could conjure up something interesting.
[22:24] <kulelu88> dont waste time thinking too much. Just brainstorm 10 ideas, draft an MVP for 5 of them, and the most lucrative is the 1 you pursue. I swear you will not regret wasting those 2 months if it works out
[22:24] <gremble> MVP? Most valuable player?
[22:27] <kulelu88> Minimum Viable Product
[22:27] <gremble> Ah
[22:31] <kulelu88> aim global if you can
[22:32] <gremble> Have you tried to startup?
[22:34] <kulelu88> I want to
[22:35] <kulelu88> I'm not sure whether to try now or try it part-time (although I'm so drained after work each day that I don't even want to code anything)
[22:37] <gremble> :/
[22:44] <gremble> So, interesting fact, I just found a way to work with relational databases in terms of linear algebra
[22:44] <gremble> Now just to see if I can make any interesting transformations :o
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2015-11-16-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:02] <clivejo> noooo
[00:03] <clivejo> KCI is gonna blame me again
[00:03] <clivejo> in one minute!
[00:05] <clivejo> valorie: are you on wily?
[00:16] <valorie> yes, wily
[00:17] <valorie> since the alpha
[00:17] <valorie> gah, I can't remember the correct invocation to upgrade to xenial
[00:18] <clivejo> could you test kvkbd in my ppa?
[00:18] <valorie> ah, got it
[00:18] <clivejo> valorie: kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
[00:18] <valorie> sec, laundry and such
[00:24] <valorie> ok, can test on this wily box while the other one is upgrading
[00:25] <valorie> how to test?
[00:25] <clivejo> you can either add my PPA or just download and install the package
[00:26] <clivejo> 32 or 64 bit?
[00:26] <valorie> 64
[00:26] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/wily/+build/8303071
[00:26] <valorie> this? ppa:clivejo/wily
[00:26] <clivejo> yup
[00:29] <valorie> hmmm:
[00:29] <valorie> The following packages will be upgraded:
[00:29] <valorie> amarok amarok-common amarok-utils kdeconnect-plasma
[00:29] <valorie> that ok?
[00:29] <valorie> why do you have a newer amarok in there?
[00:29] <clivejo> amarok, isnt mine
[00:29] <valorie> did it not get uploaded?
[00:29] <valorie> ah
[00:29] <valorie> ok
[00:30] <valorie> I was confused because the lp page didn't list that
[00:30] <clivejo> dont install those
[00:30] <valorie> but I *just* did update && full-upgrade
[00:30] <valorie> with no amarok
[00:31] <valorie> well, I can always uninstall amarok
[00:31] <valorie> I wonder if I have the beta ppa enabled or something
[00:32] <clivejo> it could be in my LP, I was playing about with it
[00:33] <clivejo> I play about with KF5 builds to see if I can get them to build
[00:34] <valorie> last time I tried building amarok, I failed
[00:35] <valorie> fortunately, the porting effort continues
[00:35] <clivejo> do you use kdeconnect?
[00:36] <valorie> yes
[00:36] <clivejo> would you test that for me too please?
[00:36] <valorie> and I basically upgraded to be able to test that on both boxes
[00:37] <clivejo> with it, make sure you are using the latest version on your phone as well
[00:39] <valorie> well, I signed up for the testing group, but unsure how to check that on my phone
[00:39] <valorie> sec
[00:56] <valorie> kdeconnect seems to be working -- this computer sees my phone and reports the battery status
[00:57] <clivejo> :)
[01:01] <valorie> on screen kbd typed this
[01:02] <valorie> but how do I get rid of it?
[01:02] <valorie> clivejo: please urge the author to get that code into kde git
[01:02] <valorie> looks a bit oxygenish, but works for me
[01:02] <clivejo> there is an icon in the system tray
[01:02] <clivejo> can change the colour
[01:02] <valorie> cool
[01:03] <clivejo> and exit it
[01:03] <valorie> now to check the upgrade to xenial
[01:03] <valorie> then dinner, I think
[01:04] <valorie> still in the setup phase
[01:04] <clivejo> bit slow?
[01:04] <valorie> it's just a lil computer
[01:04] <valorie> 65% done
[02:58] <valorie> kdeconnect is working on xenial
[03:05] <valorie> kvkbd working on xenial as well
[08:25] <stefan__> hi guys
[08:26] <stefan__> why does kubuntu-ci stable depend on qt packages which are unavailable in wily?
[08:27] <stefan__> kubuntu-ci unstable actually has newer versions of qt...
[09:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:28] <stefan__> is this the right place to askabout kubuntu-ci packages?
[09:39] <valorie> stefan__: yes, but there are few devels here right now
[09:40] <valorie> if you can't stay around until they arrive, you can always ask on the kubuntu-devel mail list
[09:47] <stefan__> valorie: thanks
[09:48] <valorie> best of luck
[10:10] <soee> hiho
[11:20] <stefan__> hi guys
[11:20] <stefan__> why does kubuntu-ci stable depend on qt packages which are unavailable in wily?
[11:20] <stefan__> kubuntu-ci unstable actually has newer versions of qt...
[11:25] <yofel> because I obviously messed up and only copied them for unstable, sorry about that.
[11:25] <yofel> I'll fix that in a big
[11:25] <yofel> *bit
[11:26] <sitter> yofel: I think stable will need a size bump to accomodate qt
[11:26] <tsdgeos> tx
[11:26] <tsdgeos> wops, wrong channel :D
[11:28] <yofel> sitter: really? we have 9G left
[11:29] <sitter> unstable overshot substantially from qt
[11:29] <sitter> I am preping the wipe now though, so it might be fine
[11:29] <sitter> then again most of xenial doesn't build anyway, so it can't use that much space yet
[11:29] <yofel> right
[11:31] <sitter> anyway. purge running now
[11:38] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.3-168-ge8746ea * Aleix Pol: CMakeLists.txt
[11:38] <pursuivant> Trim dependencies
[11:38] <pursuivant> Remove those from Discover and backends.
[11:38] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/e8746ea278754b2bf65708176f4b6560f6e58552
[11:52] <sitter> yofel: removal requested for everything. no clue when that will finish
[11:52] <sitter> yofel: shall I remove weekly entirely?
[11:54] <yofel> thanks
[11:55] <yofel> sitter: rather leave it empty for the time being. Removing it completely annoys apt
[11:55] <yofel> and plasma beautifullness: https://kyofel.de/owncloud/index.php/s/kZCGY5UB6ncaLiP
[12:01] <sitter> :/
[12:08] <ahoneybun> mm google auth works on my desktop
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:42] <mrvanes> Could any of the devs tell me why I see "Failed to establish shared memory mapping, will fallback to private memory -- memory usage will increase" for any plasma application launched (from terminal)
[12:42] <mrvanes> I have /de/shm mounted (tempfs)
[12:42] <mrvanes> I have /dev/shm mounted (tempfs)
[12:45] <shadeslayer> Do we have a agenda for Munich?
[12:46] <yofel> we have CI future, otherwise not really
[12:47] <shadeslayer> yofel: well, depends on what that means
[12:47] <shadeslayer> technical details of CI or CI infrastructure?
[12:48] <shadeslayer> and what do we do about this http://dci.pangea.pub/job/plasma/view/Failing/job/step_binary_unstable/arch=amd64/61/console
[12:50] <yofel> well, both, as we'll have to set up our own CI instance eventually and nobody know how to do that
[12:50] <yofel> I also want to talk about changelog generation and file tracking
[12:50] <shadeslayer> for CI infrastructure I think sitter said someone needs to talk to starbuck1
[12:51] <shadeslayer> and work out something
[12:51] <shadeslayer> or mentioned something along those lines
[12:51] <shadeslayer> yofel: file tracking?
[12:51] <sitter> changelogs :@
[12:52] <yofel> CI verifying that we're not missing breaks/replaces
[12:52] <sitter> yofel: all jobs gone; all ppas got vivid sources wiped; weekly got wiped entirely
[12:52] <yofel> sitter: <3
[12:53] <clivejo> sitter: Do you know what the status of kvkbd is?
[12:53] <sitter> yofel: short term file movement is implicitly tracked through the promotion QA http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_daily_promotion_wily_unstable/
[12:53] <shadeslayer> hurray, libkwineffects has so version bump
[12:53] <sitter> yofel: since it hasn't passed since May that ought to tell you why we have file movement problems :P
[12:53] <sitter> clivejo: no
[12:54] <yofel> sitter: "short term" ?
[12:54] <yofel> ah, between stable/unstable ?
[12:54] <sitter> autopromotion takes the previous daily ppa (last good set of builds) and attempts to upgrade from that to what is the supposedly new set of builds (!daily ppa)
[12:55] <sitter> if apt can not upgrade daily to the new builds the job fails
[12:55] <yofel> yes, but I would like something that doesn't depend on the apt dependency resolving order
[12:56] <sitter> sure, that's more tricky though :P
[12:56] <yofel> right, should still be solvable by throwing a hashmap of files into a mongodb and checking that after a build
[12:57] <yofel> or something in that direction
[12:57] <shadeslayer> mongodb, such hipster
[12:58] <sitter> shadeslayer: mongodb is yesterday's jam
[12:58] <yofel> says the guy who wrote the CI in ruby :P
[12:59] <shadeslayer> xD
[12:59] <sitter> still a step up from writing perl :P
[12:59] <yofel> sitter: what's the latest stuff? In-memory DBs on persistent memory?
[12:59] <sitter> shadeslayer: btw. g+ had something kewl today
[13:00] <sitter> yofel: I lost track
[13:00] <sitter> yofel: why do we need a db anyway
[13:00] <sitter> yofel: IMO the value of a tracking system would be 100% persistency so I'd actually dump raw data into json into a git repo
[13:00] <sitter> it could entirely be loaded into a database from there for actual runtime processing
[13:00] <yofel> sitter: because I would like something more long-term where a file can vanish for a month before someone upstream remembers to add it back to some random other component
[13:00] <sitter> but as actual storage I'd avoid any specific solution
[13:01] <sitter> yofel: right. I'd dump to json :P
[13:01] <yofel> well, fine with me, which is why I wanted to talk the implementation out in munich
[13:01] <sitter> yup
[13:02] <sitter> btw, I think nosql is no longer hip altogether
[13:02] <sitter> as far as nosql is concerned I think redis is the one I hear about the most
[13:07] <yofel> well, redis is more cache than db, but yeah, it's usually the thing you want if you need performance. So most people just go with that.
[13:09] <sitter> yofel: I literally do not care enough to even have looked into what it does :P
[13:10] <yofel> it's the same damn thing implemented from a different POV :P
[13:11] <shadeslayer> sitter: what was the cool G+ thing
[13:11] <sitter> ah yes
[13:11] <sitter> distracted
[13:11] <shadeslayer> I'm looking at the EU IOT Agenda
[13:11] <sitter> shadeslayer: https://github.com/bundler/gemstash
[13:11] <shadeslayer> some of the silly things on here
[13:11] <shadeslayer> plus, some of the domains have expired
[13:11] <shadeslayer> http://cordis.europa.eu/fp7/ict/enet/projects_en.html
[13:12] <shadeslayer> first link, dead, 3rd link, dead, 5th link, dead
[13:13] <shadeslayer> someone dislikes prime numbers
[13:13] <shadeslayer> er
[13:13] <shadeslayer> odd numbers
[13:13] <shadeslayer> sitter: ooog
[13:13] <shadeslayer> ooh
[13:56] <Riddell> clivejo: seen http://download.kde.org/unstable/kdeconnect/0.9/src/ ?
[13:56] <Riddell> annoyingly he hasn't changed that tar name
[14:18] <yofel> ok, our packageset in xenial looks fixed - if it weren't for ECM
[14:19] <yofel> and I need to merge 6 packages with the archive, grrr
[14:35] <mck182> any updates on the workspace package for wily?
[14:35] <shadeslayer> why this is fun
[14:36] <shadeslayer> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#BitTorrent
[15:06] <sgclark> morning
[15:07] <yofel> I just deleted kscreenlocker in ci/unstable for wily, that should get the CI build accepted I hope
[15:47] <shadeslayer> so uh, apparently armhf is now building libkwinglutils.so
[15:47] <shadeslayer> but we go all : Architecture: amd64 arm64 i386 powerpc ppc64el
[15:47] <shadeslayer> for that package
[15:47] <yofel> what does the package architecture have to do with the cmake configuration?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> mgraesslin: did kwin recently enable building of libkwinglutils on armhf?
[15:48] <yofel> he did post something about runtime gl/es detection
[15:48] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:48] <mgraesslin> shadeslayer: yes, as yofel says: there is no kwinglesutils more
[15:49] <shadeslayer> right, kwinglutils is now combined?
[15:49] <mgraesslin> one kwinglutils to bind them, one to rule them all
[15:49] <shadeslayer> roger
[15:49] <yofel> XD
[15:49] <shadeslayer> can drop Arch here then
[15:49] <mgraesslin> yep
[15:49] <mgraesslin> I pointed that out in the blog post
[15:49] <shadeslayer> right, I just re read it
[15:50] <shadeslayer> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kwin.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=42dddbb6d42b8dc0ecd98b979120c38194d7c278
[15:50] <shadeslayer> ;)
[16:29] <clivejo> Riddell: I did see it and I packaged it, but Ive used the maintainer verison number. The previous versions are 0.0+git
[16:30] <clivejo> not sure if that was wise to do or not
[16:33] <Riddell> clivejo: use the upstream version number
[16:34] <clivejo> Riddell: its in my PPA as kdeconnect-plasma 0.9-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1
[16:34] <Riddell> clivejo: that looks good yes
[16:34] <clivejo> but I think Ive found a bug
[16:34] <clivejo> need someone else to verify it though
[16:35] <clivejo> do you use it?
[16:35] <Riddell> yes
[16:35] <clivejo> can you still browse your phone via dolphin?
[16:36] <Riddell> clivejo: where do I install it from?
[16:36] <clivejo> Ive recently changed my LAN config, so it might be that causing problems
[16:36] <clivejo> either wily or xenial in my PPA
[16:36] <Riddell> browing from dolphin is done with kio-mtp isn't it?
[16:37] <Riddell> oh no there's a kdeconnect:// kioslave
[16:37] <clivejo> Im getting an error messaging saying that the file or folder doesnt exist
[16:37] <Riddell> ok browsing works good with 0.0+git20150810-0ubuntu1
[16:38] <clivejo> but Im on xenial at the moment
[16:40] <Riddell> clivejo: yep still working good on wily
[16:40] <Riddell> clivejo: but in my experience kio-mtp is kindae flakey and doesn't work sometimes with the error you said
[16:40] <Riddell> so I expect kdeconnect will be the same
[16:40] <Riddell> which might be the fault of the phone or something lower down the stack on linux
[16:41] <clivejo> I think its a local issue
[16:44] <clivejo> strange
[16:45] <clivejo> Riddell: do you know what is going on with kvkbd ?
[16:45] <Riddell> clivejo: nothing as far as I know
[16:45] <clivejo> is it part of KDE or 3rd party?
[16:46] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/kvkbd
[16:46] <clivejo> would be very handy with touch screens!
[16:49] <clivejo> *pokes ahoneybun to see if he would test it on ubuntu phone*
[16:52] <Riddell> clivejo: we use malitt I think it is on the phone
[16:53] <clivejo> ah, so obsolete
[16:54] <clivejo> well I packaged the 2014 version yesterday and it appears to work
[18:09] <yofel> mck182: ^
[18:09] <mck182> yofel: YESSSS!!!!!! YOU HEROOO!!!!
[18:09] <mck182> also, thank you.
[19:10] <clivejo> Riddell: how do I go about getting kdeconnect-plasma tested/QA and get it into the archives?
[19:11] <clivejo> The author says on the andriod app that Kubuntu is slow about rolling out new features
[19:13] <Riddell> clivejo: ask for testers here with !testers and on the mailing list and get someone with upload privilages to upload it, you can also build it for wily and put it into backports ppa and actual backports
[19:14] <clivejo> its in both my wily and xenial PPA
[19:16] <clivejo> and how do I link the LP page to KDE, or is that possible?
[19:16] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect-plasma
[19:17] <clivejo> should I build one for vivid too?
[19:18] * clivejo would have to make a vivid pbuilder to do that
[19:26] * clivejo feels like hes talking to himself again and wanders off
[19:27] * genii makes a large tasty pot of coffee, washes out everyone's mugs and leaves them next to the coffeepot
[19:31] * yofel hands clivejo the "You have mastered the secrets of IRC" scroll and goes back into hiding
[19:35] <Riddell> clivejo: don't bother with vivid, supporting more than one version for backports isn't sustainable
[19:49] <soee> hiho, im finaly back after some ban :/
[21:48] <alket> hi, who is the release manager now ?
[21:49] <mparillo> yofel: and sgclark
[21:49] <alket> thanks mparillo
[21:53] <alket> lets hope they do a fine release for 16.05
[21:53] <alket> *04
[21:53] <yofel> that's the plan ;)
[21:58] <sgclark> yep!
[22:08] <alket> please don't get me wrong, im just saying because its going to be my distro for work for the next 2 years
[22:09] <alket> thank you for you hard work
[22:39] <valorie> soee: ban?
[22:40] <valorie> ooops, gotta go, but perhaps tell about it in -offtopic?
[22:48] <clivejo> o/ valorie
[22:53] <clivejo> Riddell: do you know how to figure out why my KDEConnect file browser isnt working?
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[00:13] <Picasso_DF> Pessoal, eu tenho uma placa onboard da amd... mais tem vídeos que ficam travando muito aqui e agora está acontecendo direto... instalei o drive proprietário, detalhe, assistindo onlinne fica de boa os vídeos... o que pode ser isso e como resolver?
[00:17] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[00:17] <Picasso_DF> \o/
[00:19] <astroo-> diz que versao ubuntu tens
[00:21] <barna> Picasso_DF, qual versão do ubuntu?
[00:22] <Picasso_DF> 14.04
[00:23] <jaqent> Picasso_DF: e qual placa? Isso acontece com qualquer formato de video ou com algum em especifico?
[00:23] <Diego_> 14.10
[00:23] <Diego_> boa noite
[00:23] <Diego_> minha versão 14.10 e não estou conseguindo atualizar para 15.10
[00:23] <Picasso_DF> Bom é o mkv que sempre uso, roda de boa alguns, mas outros fica engasgando e dando lag... a placa de vídeo é uma hd radeon.
[00:24] <Diego_> como faço para fazer o downgrade para 14.04...
[00:24] <Diego_> detalhe meu grub gerencia minha máquina, possuo o windows 8 em dual boot
[00:24] <Picasso_DF> http://www.diolinux.com.br/2015/04/como-atualizar-o-ubuntu-1404-e-1410-para-o-1504.html
[00:26] <Diego_> opa obrigado
[00:26] <Picasso_DF> =D
[00:26] <Picasso_DF> essa é minha placa de vídeo: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
[00:26] <jaqent> Picasso_DF: existe a possibilidade de ser um problema com o encoding dos videos? Digo eles engasgam em qualuqer lugar ou soh nessa maquina.
[00:27] <Picasso_DF> Creio que não, porque, são vários vídeos e é de um grupo de torrent senão alguém já teria reclamado, e, retirado os vídeos...
[00:30] <barna> o 14.10 ainda atualiza pro 15.10?
[00:30] <Picasso_DF> qualquer sistema atualiza...
[00:30] <Picasso_DF> Tem um comando na shell mais esqueci que faz o upgrade...
[00:31] <barna> o 14.10 foi descontinuado, sudo apt-get update e upgrade não funcionam mais, fiquei na duvida se atualização de distro ainda funcionem.
[00:32] <Picasso_DF> pera ai deixa eu achar o comando...
[00:34] <Picasso_DF> é esse comando aqui mas tem que adiciona uma ppa eu acho
[00:34] <Picasso_DF> sudo update-manager -d
[00:35] <Picasso_DF> http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/atualizar-para-o-ubuntu-15-04/
[01:46] <back> ola gente...
[01:47] <barna> opa
[01:48] <Guest55042> estou usando o lubuntu e selecionei o driver proprietario da nvidia e agora quando eu logo fica em uma tela preta
[01:48] <astroo-> ola
[01:49] <Guest55042> preciso urgentemente usar o pc.
[01:49] <barna> ixi, baixa um live e usa em live.
[01:50] <barna> Guest55042, qual a versão do seu ubuntu?
[01:50] <astroo-> e lununtu
[01:50] <astroo-> lubuntu
[01:51] <barna> lubuntu usa lightdm pra iniciar?
[01:53] <barna> Guest55042, tenta dar uma sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[01:54] <barna> Guest55042, como q vc instalou o driver?
[02:06] <barna> ai fica dificil né?
[02:12] <Picasso_DF> hehehehe
[02:29] <Picasso_DF> pessoal alguém aqui usa o wine para jogos e tem problemas com o anti-hacker?
[02:29] <barna> eu uso wine pra um programa de edição/tratamento de audio, sem problemas.
[02:30] <barna> e ai Sr. al4nc4ds, voltando a frequentar o irc?
[02:30] <al4nc4ds> barna, s2
[02:30] <al4nc4ds> (;
[02:31] <barna> ah tempo q num te via por essas bandas....
[02:31] <al4nc4ds> e pq estava nas bandas priv8
[02:31] <al4nc4ds> rs
[02:31] <al4nc4ds> ainda com guerreiro com ubuntu studio ?
[02:32] <barna> sim no studio ainda.... mas querendo migrar pro avix
[02:32] <barna> pro meu uso ele tem se demonstrado melhor.
[02:33] <al4nc4ds> http://avix.sourceforge.net/
[02:33] <al4nc4ds> ta testando em maq virtual ou real o avix
[02:33] <Picasso_DF> é que tento jogar e assim que entro no jogo tomo dc =/
[02:33] <barna> esse mesmo.
[02:34] <barna> al4nc4ds, nos 2. no pc principal to com ele no real, e no servidor to com ele em vm pra desenvolvimento
[02:35] <al4nc4ds> legal o projeto
[02:35] <barna> ta ficando massa D+, bem mais rapido e leve q o studio.
[02:36] <barna> com altas confs especificas pra quem trampa com video. studio é mais pra audio. mas na época era o melhor q tava tendo.
[02:36] <barna> eu to desenvolvendo um sistema de render farm flexivel pro avix, pra sair junto com o ubuntu 16.04
[02:37] <al4nc4ds> legal tu faz parte do projeto dos caras ?
[02:37] <barna> entrei de gaiato....
[02:38] <barna> eu ja tava desenvolvendo a farm flexivel pra ubuntu, ai conheci a galera do avix e tamo juntando forças.
[02:38] <al4nc4ds> massa cara
[02:38] <al4nc4ds> ta cuidado do irc deles entao
[02:39] <barna> tb.
[02:39] <al4nc4ds> show cara sucesso
[02:39] <barna> mas até o momento o irc do avix anda maio parado, a gelera (usuarios) não tão curtido muito o irc
[02:54] <jaqent> Picasso_DF: isso acontece mesmo, anti-cheat as vezes da falso-positivo para o wine.
[02:57] <Picasso_DF> Pois é, mais dá dc ai não posso jogar :'( doido para jogar mu online x.x
[03:48] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[04:25] <netow> ata2 RSTS failed error n-16
[04:25] <barna> netow, ????
[04:25] <netow> nao consigo instalar o ubuntu 14.10
[04:26] <netow> ao meu ver
[04:26] <netow> ele insiste em querer instalar o SO no proprio pen drive
[04:26] <barna> netow, 14.10 foi descontinuado.
[04:26] <barna> não vai instalar mesmo.
[04:27] <barna> se queres um sistema mais novo use o 15.10, se quiser um mais estavel use o 14.04
[04:28] <barna> netow, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[04:32] <barna> espero q tenha lido e seja só mau educado.
[04:33] <Picasso_DF> ^^
[05:03] <barna> voltei, algum filho de uma ...... desligou o cabo de rede do servidor!
[05:08] <Picasso_DF> huehheuheuhuehuehue
[05:08] <Picasso_DF> xD
[05:09] <barna> deliguei o dhcp só de birra, agora qm não ta com mac cadastrado num entra na rede (nem na internet) .
[05:19] <Picasso_DF> :o
[10:13] <elisboa> bom dia!
[10:13] <elisboa> bom dia!
[10:47] <oliverio> bom dia
[11:05] <elisboa> todo mundo com sono ainda?
[11:13] <oliverio> elisboa, ô.. eu nem dormi direito
[11:54] <elisboa> oliverio: eu até dormi, mas continuo com sono
[11:57] <oliverio> elisboa, estou de férias e extrai um dente, tou sentindo dores e latejando direto.. não consegui dormi =\
[11:58] <elisboa> oliverio: siso, né?
[12:00] <oliverio> sim, sim
[12:00] <oliverio> precisei pagar R$ 110,00 pra poder extrair o dente numa particular
[12:00] <oliverio> não aguentei esperar o plano
[12:14] <elisboa> nossa, que foda
[12:14] <elisboa> mas até que não foi tão caro
[12:25] <Mano> galera não entendo nada de linux, instalei agora o mint, gostaria de saber como faço para atualizar
[12:29] <Mano> alguém poderia informar oque eu ponho no repositório ?
[12:50] <rafael> Põe no repositório?
[12:56] <alex_____> ola bom dia
[13:25] <netow> pode fazer pergunta sobre windows aqui?
[13:26] <netow> nao necessariamente windows, mas estou com um problema no meu email, nao consigo fazer upload de anexos no hotmail, sempre q ta perto de carregar ele volta pro começo do upload
[14:39] <shallwe> bom dia
[14:42] <aedigital> buenas
[14:46] <shallwe> buenas
[14:52] <shallwe> kkk tem um texto no br-linux.org do cara testando o steam machine, ta dando o que falar
[14:52] <shallwe> eu nunca vou entender pq as pessoas insistem em jogo pra linux
[14:53] <aedigital> ahh
[14:53] <aedigital> hehehe
[14:53] <aedigital> eu pessoalmente nao curto jogos para computador de jeito algum
[14:53] <shallwe> obvio que o steam os ta cheio de bug e as steam machines rodam piores que o windows, fora que não tem os jogos aaa
[14:53] <aedigital> no maximo que jogo eh um thecrims, que nao precisa instalar nada
[14:53] <shallwe> aedigital, eu tenho um Wii ali na sala :) jogo com meu sobrinho mario kart kkk bem legal
[14:54] <aedigital> hehehe
[14:54] <aedigital> a muito tempo atras cheguei a comprar um wii
[14:54] <aedigital> mas no fim nem curti e dei para meus sobrinhos
[14:54] <shallwe> pra mim só falta tentar instalar o linxu no wii, mas é um trabalhão do caramba
[14:54] <aedigital> hoje em dia soh curto mesmo eh jogar truco e domino (na vida real)
[14:55] <shallwe> é legal pq dá pra ver youtube ai não preciso ficar ligando o note na tv
[14:55] <aedigital> shallwe, vixe
[14:55] <aedigital> instalar linux no wii deve ser uma aventura mesmo
[14:55] <aedigital> tem que ter tempo e paciencia hem
[14:56] <shallwe> aedigital, sim e o hardware é fraco
[14:56] <aedigital> anram
[14:56] <shallwe> outra coisa que eu acho que jogo deveria ser pra console
[14:56] <aedigital> penso igual
[14:57] <shallwe> fico abismado como o wii com um clock de 700hmz e com 88mb consegue fazer jogos perfeitos
[14:57] <shallwe> enquanto que pra isso no pc precisamos de uma configuração parruda
[14:58] <shallwe> o clock do video é bizarro 240mhz kkkkk e faz os graficos de mario metroid são lindos
[14:58] <aedigital> hehehe
[15:01] <aedigital> grupo pseudo hacker anonymous declarou guerra ao EI
[15:01] <aedigital> fsjfçsdfsd
[15:02] <shallwe> vixi a coisa ta feia
[15:02] * jaqent vai buscar as pipocas
[15:02] <aedigital> yeah
[15:02] <shallwe> sorte que nós aqui somos os menos envolvidos :) brasil acho que é o mais liberal pra religião sem frescura
[15:03] <aedigital> os caras sao bitolados
[15:03] <aedigital> eu nao curto religiao alguma
[15:03] <aedigital> mas tolero numa boa
[15:04] <aedigital> mas estes fanaticos religiosos
[15:04] <aedigital> extrapolam tudo
[15:04] <shallwe> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-convergence-is-better-than-windows-continuum-here-s-why-496163.shtml essa versão #euinstalo kkk
[15:04] <shallwe> só na espera do ubuntu 16.04
[15:05] <aedigital> :)
[15:05] <shallwe> tem doido pra tudo aedigital religião é algo que nem deve ser discutida :) eu sou ateu e nem comento nada com ninguem pra não arrumar briga
[15:05] <shallwe> e parei pq ta offtopic kkk
[15:05] <aedigital> ta certo
[15:07] <shallwe> interessante o unity 8 com mir vai ser fácil de fazer app, tanto pro ubuntu quanto pro celular, ambos serão iguais pelo que entendi
[15:09] <shallwe> se eu tivesse dinheiro sobrando trabalharia só pra ajudar o ubuntu com os projetos, pena que sou pobre kkk
[15:09] <shallwe> só posso nas horas vagas
[15:11] <shallwe> falar nisso alguem já usou ou tem o ubuntu phone? nunca encontrei os cels compatíveis aqui pra vender no brasil
[15:11] <aedigital> nem me fale eh horas vagas
[15:11] <shallwe> BQ Aquaris E5 HD
[15:11] <aedigital> hehehe
[15:11] <aedigital> mas isto de ser portavel pra celular eh muito interessante
[15:12] <shallwe> aedigital, sim pq é ARM, mas pelo que entendi será bem fácil de fazer
[15:12] <shallwe> tanto pra um quanto pra outro
[15:12] <aedigital> good
[15:13] <lynxer10> E ae povo. Boa tarde
[15:14] <shallwe> lynxer10, boa tarde
[15:15] <aedigital> tarde boa
[15:15] <lynxer10> Vou me aventurar no debian 8.2 Jessie alguém já usou?
[15:15] <shallwe> lynxer10, eu já
[15:16] <shallwe> mas não troco ubuntu por nada
[15:16] <shallwe> lynxer10, se eu fosse vc instalaria o ubuntu gnome, que tem muito mais recurso
[15:16] <lynxer10> O Ubuntu sem dúvida é o mais mão na roda de todos
[15:16] <shallwe> no debian 8.2 tive problemas com drivers de video
[15:16] <lynxer10> Mas cansei um pouco tenho ele instalado no desktop e no laptop
[15:17] <shallwe> lynxer10, a sim claro, tb faço isso as vezes, ai eu aprendo como é bom o ubuntu e volto correndo kkk
[15:17] <shallwe> mas é legal testar outras distros :)
[15:17] <lynxer10> Vou instalar no laptop que comprei um disco de ssd e quero ver o bixo rodando
[15:17] <shallwe> é um note bom?
[15:17] <shallwe> a bom tranquilo
[15:17] <lynxer10> Isso é verdade Ubuntu e realmente muito bom
[15:18] <lynxer10> Um pouco mais de melhoria e conquista o mundo hahaha
[15:18] <lynxer10> A próxima versão 16.04 está prometedora
[15:18] <lynxer10> Pó e um i5 com 8 gb e um ssd de 120
[15:19] <lynxer10> No Ubuntu o boot era instantâneo
[15:19] <lynxer10> Não conseguia nem ver o nome Ubuntu iniciando
[15:19] <shallwe> caramba fui arrastar um icone pra barra do unity e travou geral kkkk vai entender
[15:20] <lynxer10> Vamos ver como fica com o debian
[15:20] <lynxer10> Hahaha acontece nas melhores famílias
[15:21] <jaqent> lynxer10: eu uso o Jessie em uma maquina e em servers, eh bom.
[15:21] <shallwe> é vou reiniciar pra garantir acho que instalei muita coisa sem reiniciar :)
[15:21] <lynxer10> Uma coisa que não achei como faz ou melhor na realidade não entendi direito e como dou upgrade no kernel do debian que vem na versão 3.16 e eu queria passar pra 4.3 vocês tem algumas dicas?
[15:23] <lynxer10> Jaquent vou testar
[15:23] <lynxer10> Sempre tive curiosidade mas como gosto muito do Ubuntu sempre deixava pra testar depois
[15:24] <lynxer10> Mas agora vai
[15:24] <lynxer10> Pelo que eu entendi o debian foca muito em estabilidade e segurança e por esse motivo demora pra caramba pra tá up to date
[15:25] <jaqent> lynxer10: se vc quer um atalho pra atualizar o kernel da uma procurada por Mr.Exton's kernel. Eh um semi-pronto
[15:25] <aedigital> exato
[15:25] <lynxer10> Eu achei essa página
[15:25] <aedigital> pra instalar um kernel bem recente, acho que somente
[15:25] <aedigital> com os sources mesmo
[15:25] <lynxer10> Mas estão reportando um monte de erros
[15:25] <jaqent> lynxer10: sim o certo mesmo seria usar o Debian Sid se vc quer ir muito pra frente
[15:26] <jaqent> Que eh o unstable. Soh que ele eh unstable
[15:26] <lynxer10> Vou tentar quando chegar em casa com o backport
[15:26] <lynxer10> Habilitar os mirros e instalar a versão considerada estável no backport
[15:27] <lynxer10> E ver como funciona
[15:27] <jaqent> lynxer10: rodar o debian stable como ele vem é geralmente a melhor escolha pra quem não quer ter muito trabalho.
[15:28] <lynxer10> Isso é verdade mas como essa minha máquina não tem nenhum fim de trabalho e nada
[15:28] <lynxer10> Uso pra fazer todos os testes
[15:28] <lynxer10> Do sackware ao gentoo que na boa terrível pra usar
[15:29] <lynxer10> E agora chegou a vez do debian
[15:29] <rafaelsoaresbr> lynxer10, o backports tem a versão 4.2 https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-amd64&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
[15:29] <shallwe> elementary os acho muuuito bonito e legal, e ele vem com o mínimo das coisas
[15:29] <shallwe> é ótimo pra montar uma distro e instalar o que vc mais usa :)
[15:30] <lynxer10> Agora o que vale a pena mesmo e ter um disco ssd sei que é caro pra carvalho por isso peguei um de 120 mas faz uma diferença absurda de velocidade
[15:30] <aedigital> anram
[15:30] <hggdh> lynxer10: linguagem, por favor. Mesmo disfarçando.
[15:30] <lynxer10> rafaelsoaresbr: foi isso mesmo que eu achei nele que eu vou pra ver se funciona
[15:32] <lynxer10> Pó dei uma esforçada no disfarce
[15:32] <lynxer10> Hahahaha
[15:32] <lynxer10> Foi malz
[15:32] <aedigital> :P
[15:32] <jaqent> lynxer10: qual vc achou horrível o Slackware ou o Gentoo?
[15:32] <hggdh> lynxer10: não, não foi malz, foi proposital.
[15:32] <lynxer10> Gentoo
[15:33] <lynxer10> Realmente é pra quem tem tempo de ficar quebrando a cabeça
[15:33] <lynxer10> Tudo muito complicado
[15:33] <lynxer10> Salckware não fede nem cheira pra mim parou no tempo
[15:35] <jaqent> Gentoo eu já acho ele bem tranquilo de usar até. Achei que vc tava falando do Slackware por ter ficado preso em algum 'dependency hell'
[15:36] <lynxer10> Não gostei muito acho que o so tem que ser prático e descomplicado por isso o Ubuntu e soberano
[15:36] <rafaelsoaresbr> Gentoo e Arch eh pra quem tem tempo. Se for pra instalar e usar com certeza deve correr dessas
[15:36] <lynxer10> Exatamente concordo plenamente
[15:36] <jaqent> rafaelsoaresbr: lol
[15:36] <lynxer10> Testei fedora
[15:37] <lynxer10> Bom sistema
[15:37] <jaqent> Eu levo menos de 20min pra fazer uma fresh install do Arch
[15:37] <lynxer10> Testei opensuse
[15:37] <jaqent> e geralmente mais uns 15-20min pra ter a máquina como gosto
[15:37] <lynxer10> Bom sistema apesar de pesadão
[15:37] <jaqent> 99% das vezes eu literalmente esqueço dela, só faço update regular
[15:38] <rafaelsoaresbr> jaqent, sim, com a prática ficamos mais rápidos, eu acelero ainda mais aqui pois uso um proxy soh para os mirrors do Arch
[15:38] <lynxer10> Nem me aventuro para ser sincero
[15:38] <jaqent> lynxer10: tem muita gente que gosta de fazer algumas coisas parecerem mais difícil do que elas realmente são.
[15:38] <shallwe> eu lembro da época de compilar o sistema todo slack no pc pra ficar redondinho
[15:39] <shallwe> eram dias compilando aquilo kkk
[15:39] <jaqent> Na minha opinião até hj Arch foi uma das distros mais fáceis de se usar
[15:39] <lynxer10> Acho que o Ubuntu tá no caminho certo
[15:39] <lynxer10> Evoluiu bastante e os outros sistemas que segurem o chapéu que ubuntão vai fazer voar
[15:39] <jaqent> Gentoo ainda pode demorar um pouco pq ele compila virtualmente tudo, mas Arch é quase tudo pré-compilado
[15:40] <lynxer10> Rapaz não sei se é por não ser da área
[15:40] <lynxer10> Mas tenho uma preguiça mental quando diz respeito a computador pra mim tem que ligar e funcionar de boa
[15:40] <lynxer10> Hahahaha
[15:41] <lynxer10> Sou curioso é verdade
[15:41] <jaqent> Se quiser experimentar o Arch então vai de Manjaro é um fork feito especialmente pra pessoas com essa preguiça mental :P
[15:41] <lynxer10> Por isso entrei nessa de Ubuntu e gostei
[15:41] <lynxer10> Hahahaha
[15:42] <lynxer10> Acho que não passo mais do debian
[15:42] <jaqent> mas falando sério, a facilidade de uso do SO é relativo.
[15:42] <lynxer10> Testo vejo como é e retorno ao ubuntão
[15:42] <shallwe> eu só entrei no ubuntu pelo unity e descobri de brinde a facilidade que ele te dá e a integração do sistema
[15:42] <lynxer10> Isso é verdade
[15:42] <rafaelsoaresbr> não consigo sair do Arch muito por causa do AUR. O Ubuntu está inovando e promete trazer uma ferramenta parecida
[15:42] <jaqent> Por exemplo o Linus Torvalds já mencionou algumas vezes que ele nunca usou o Debian pq ele na época que tentou ele não conseguiu instalar o sistema.
[15:43] <lynxer10> Acho o unity muito legal
[15:43] <lynxer10> Tem como colocar no debian o unity?
[15:43] <lynxer10> Hahahaha
[15:43] <shallwe> lynxer10, claro que tem instala o ubuntu :)
[15:43] <jaqent> rafaelsoaresbr: AUR é de longe o melhor que já vi, e boa parte da razão pela qual considero o Arch fácil
[15:43] <lynxer10> Pó se esse cara não conseguiu instalar então tô morto
[15:44] <lynxer10> Desculpem a burragem mas que diabos e aur?
[15:44] <jaqent> lynxer10: meu ponto é justamente o contrário. Facilidade é relativo. E nem é que ele não conseguiria é que ele simplesmente escolheu desistir no meio do caminho ao invés de continuar perdendo tempo
[15:45] <lynxer10> Fato
[15:45] <lynxer10> Praticidade
[15:45] <lynxer10> Meu lema
[15:45] <jaqent> lynxer10: é um repositório paralelo do ArchLinux que é contríbuido/feito/gerenciado pela comunidade
[15:45] <lynxer10> Espero que eu consiga e não desista hahaha
[15:45] <lynxer10> jaqent: saquei
[15:46] <rafaelsoaresbr> lynxer10, é o Arch User Repository (repositório do usuário). Se quer instalar o jdk8, visual paradigm, sublime text, consegue fazer isso com um simples comando: yaourt <nome_do_app>
[15:46] <jaqent> Sinceramente acho que em 5-6 anos usando Arch só teve umas dez vezes (no máximo) que eu não achei o que procurava no AUR ou nos repositórios oficiais
[15:47] <lynxer10> Pó show
[15:47] <jaqent> e isso pq eram softwares bem obscuros, do meio dos anos 90, na maioria dos casos
[15:47] <lynxer10> Vou dar uma lida nisso depois
[15:47] <lynxer10> Galera vou almoçar e já volto
[15:47] <lynxer10> Brb
[15:48] <shallwe> lynxer10, bom almoço
[15:48] <shallwe> come devagar :)
[15:53] <jaqent> mastigue 48 vezes cada garfada
[15:56] <elisboa> é
[16:15] <ruffleS> boa tarde, pessoal. tá aparecendo umas msgs de erro durante o boot. ubuntu 15.10 todo atualizado rodando num Dell XPS 14
[16:15] <ruffleS> [ 2.030615] [drm:intel_pch_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun
[16:15] <ruffleS> video demonstrando o problema: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT-W_1E38Ro
[16:24] <edenc> anonymous é "pseudo-hacker"?
[16:41] <lynxer10> Pó 48? Pensei que fossem só 36
[16:41] <lynxer10> Hahahaha pra próxima que agora já foi
[16:45] <lynxer10> Cara seu vídeo não funcionou aqui não
[16:45] <lynxer10> Da mensagem de que não pode carregar
[16:45] <jaqent> lynxer10: ele já se foi :(
[16:48] <lynxer10> Putz nem vi
[17:58] <elcio> oi
[17:58] <MerliM> oi
[17:59] <elcio> instalei o ubuntu pelo pen drive, mas agora tem uma nova versao e quero instalar ela , mas como eu tenho a antiga no pendrive nao tem como ,
[17:59] <elcio> pq da algjum tipo de restriçao
[17:59] <shallwe> elcio, olá qual versão vc tem instalada?
[17:59] <elcio> e nao tem como eu apagar os arquivos do ubuntu
[17:59] <elcio> acho q é a 13
[17:59] <shallwe> elcio, Ui! isso ai é do tempo do epa kkk
[18:00] <shallwe> vc nao consegue baixar outra iso?
[18:00] <EddyFarias> Olá.. Boa tarde.. sou iniciante em linux, e estou utilizando a distro UBUNTU.. porem ao instalar alguns programas tipo skype ou team viewer aparece a seguinte mensagem de erro
[18:00] <elcio> baixei a 14
[18:00] <shallwe> elcio, a 14.04?
[18:00] <elcio> sim
[18:00] <shallwe> EddyFarias, boa tarde, skype instala de boa, qual erro da no skype?
[18:00] <elcio> acabei de baixar a 14.04
[18:01] <EddyFarias> dependecy is not satisfiable. libc6(>=2.4)
[18:01] <shallwe> elcio, certo, como fazer upgrade do 13 não tem, vc terá que instalar de novo
[18:01] <shallwe> EddyFarias, qual versão do ubuntu?
[18:01] <EddyFarias> 14.10
[18:01] <elcio> mas como faço para excluir do pen drive
[18:01] <elcio> ??
[18:01] <shallwe> EddyFarias, infelizmente essa 14.10 não é mais suportada
[18:01] <EddyFarias> no caso dei uma olhada em alguns tutoriais na net.. porem quando vou atualizar o ubuntu.. da alguns erros
[18:02] <shallwe> elcio, vc quer gravar a iso no pendrive isso?
[18:02] <elcio> sim
[18:02] <shallwe> EddyFarias, vc baixou esse ubuntu agora é nova a instalação?
[18:02] <EddyFarias> baixei semana passada
[18:02] <shallwe> elcio, e vc está no ubuntu ou no windows?
[18:03] <EddyFarias> qual a versão você me recomendaria a utilizar?
[18:03] <shallwe> EddyFarias, eu aconselho você a baixar a 14.04
[18:03] <shallwe> baixa direto do ubuntu.com o site do brasil ta antigo
[18:03] <shallwe> 14.04 sem dúvidas
[18:03] <elcio> da essa mensagem: Não é possivel gravar no disco porque ele esta protegido contra gravação. Remova a proteçao contra gravação do volume na unidade
[18:03] <shallwe> elcio, isso no ubuntu?
[18:04] <shallwe> EddyFarias, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:04] <shallwe> olha aí
[18:04] <elcio> sim, issu quando eu vo instalar a 14.04 no pendrive que tem a outra versao
[18:04] <shallwe> EddyFarias, tenho skype aqui e rola perfeito
[18:04] <shallwe> elcio, calma não estou entendendo vamos por parte, o ubuntu está instalado no seu pc certo? o 13
[18:04] <elcio> nao , apenas no pendrive
[18:05] <shallwe> elcio, então vc está usado ele como live, pluga no pc da o boot no pendrive e usa isso?
[18:05] <elcio> sim,
[18:05] <elcio> o q q é live?
[18:05] <shallwe> elcio, atualmente você tem windows ou está nele?
[18:05] <EddyFarias> entendi.. vou instalar esta versão e realizar os testes..
[18:05] <EddyFarias> muito obrigado Shallwe
[18:05] <shallwe> EddyFarias, com certeza funcionará :)
[18:05] <shallwe> 14.04 não esquece
[18:05] <elcio> windows
[18:05] <MerliM> elcio, instala a libc
[18:06] <shallwe> elcio, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:06] <MerliM> os libs32 tb
[18:06] <shallwe> MerliM, é outra coisa que ele quer kkk eu acho né
[18:06] <shallwe> MerliM, e acho que isso é pro eddyfarias do skype?
[18:07] <MerliM> malz
[18:07] <MerliM> li rapidaoo falha minha
[18:07] <shallwe> MerliM, :0 acontece
[18:07] <shallwe> elcio, entendeu? olha lá o link que te passei, baixa o app e usa ele pra gravar a iso no seu pendrive do ubuntu 14.04
[18:08] <elcio> ok
[18:08] <shallwe> pede pra formatar o pendrive, claro que você perderá tudo que tem nele, e marca a opção de de Persistent
[18:08] <elcio> vo tentar
[18:09] <shallwe> no app vc verá que tem a opção Step4, que é persistent, ou seja o tamanho que você colocar ali ficará como uma partição dentro do pendrive onde serão salvas suas alterações feitas no ubuntu
[18:14] <elcio> help
[18:14] <elcio> menu
[18:17] <lynxer10> whazuppp?
[18:24] <shallwe> kkk é cada doido que entra aqui
[18:26] <lynxer10> uhauhauhaua
[18:52] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[18:54] <lynxer10> boa tarde
[18:54] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem ?
[18:55] <shallwe> boa tarde
[18:55] <mirqui> blza shallwe ?
[18:57] <shallwe> mirqui, tudo certo
[18:57] <mirqui> blza , isso que serve :)
[18:57] <lynxer10> blza, sim de boa e por ai?
[18:57] <mirqui> e ai , quais são as novas?
[18:57] <shallwe> :) só procurando algumas cores pra um logo que estou montando no inkscape
[18:57] <shallwe> mas não estou achando combinações legais :)
[18:58] <mirqui> tudo bem graças a deus lynxer
[18:58] <mirqui> azul , verde , magenta , ciano
[18:58] <toter> shallwe: http://www.color-hex.com/color-palettes/popular.php
[18:59] <mirqui> são cores que agradam ao olho
[18:59] <toter> Paletas de cores populares... no site acima...
[18:59] <shallwe> http://postimg.org/image/axeb82umb/
[18:59] <shallwe> sim já fiz faculdade de design de cores, combinações na paleta, contrastes etc
[18:59] <shallwe> é ums akinho kkkk
[19:01] <shallwe> toter, é bom per aí mesmo :) valeu pela dica do site
[19:02] <mirqui> ahha baaa velho , a coisa pensei que estava boa
[19:02] <mirqui> agora é minha tia que está pesteada aaha
[19:02] <mirqui> só eu estou escapando , não sei por quanto tempo
[19:06] <shallwe> mirqui, muito suco natural de laranja e era isso
[19:06] <mirqui> vai fazer minha mãe tomar
[19:06] <mirqui> minha tia talvez
[19:07] <mirqui> acho que vou na vitamina c mesmo para ela
[19:09] <edenc> se for gripe ou resfriado nada cura nem melhora
[19:09] <shallwe> http://postimg.org/image/3ptlhvtfb/ ficou legal, usei as cores do facebook kkkk
[19:09] <edenc> só algumas coisas que dá pra fazer pra piorar
[19:09] <mirqui> sim, verdade , é 1 semana
[19:09] <edenc> não faça isso e fique vivo que ela passa sozinha
[19:09] <mirqui> que nem aquilo que o gato joga terra em cima
[19:10] <mirqui> já fomos no médico hoje
[19:10] <mirqui> pulmõe slimpos e sem catarro
[19:10] <mirqui> limpos
[19:10] <edenc> dizem que não usar utf8 causa pneumonia :P
[19:10] <mirqui> é aguentar a murrinha por 7 dias
[19:11] <toter> shallwe: De nada...
[19:11] <mirqui> h1n5 ahaha
[19:12] <mirqui> utf8 achava que era uma fonte de letras no linux
[19:13] <mirqui> ou h5n1
[19:19] <lynxer10> e hoje galera que instalo o debian o laptop ta quase na hora de eu mandar um vazare do job. Me desejem sorte pra que funcione tudo. Principalmente no que diz respeito ao som e a bendita placa wifi quem seeempre dao pau uhauhauha
[19:20] <mirqui> boa sorte então ;)
[19:25] <lynxer10> valeu!
[19:25] <barna> muita e muita mesmo sorte lynxer10
[19:26] <barna> depois se conseguir me conta como faz! hahahahahahahahaha
[19:28] <lynxer10> po como faz nao creio que tenha muito segredo a questao e reconhecer tudo sem dores de cabeca
[19:32] <shallwe> programinha legal esse do shutter pra printsreen e já manda até pro servidor online a imagem :)
[19:33] <barna> lynxer10, fala isso pra minha nvidia optimus (nvidia+intel)
[19:35] <lynxer10> auhuhaua eu li realmente que tu que for proprietario nao e a praia do debian
[19:35] <lynxer10> o que acho bobeira esses radicalismo sao tudo palhacada
[19:35] <lynxer10> na minha opiniao obviamente cada um com a sua
[19:36] <shallwe> lynxer10, estamos falando de drive proprietário de placa de vídeo?
[19:36] <lynxer10> isso
[19:36] <lynxer10> pelo q entendi qq driver que seja proprietario tem grandes chances de nao funcionar
[19:37] <shallwe> lynxer10, pelo contrário
[19:37] <shallwe> proprietários dentem a funcionar melhor que opensouce
[19:37] <shallwe> ninguem melhor que a própria empresa pra te fornecer um drive dela não achas? :)
[19:37] <lynxer10> po, entendo que eles sao "melhores" o que to dizendo que no debian nao funciona
[19:38] <lynxer10> esta escrito na pagina debian.org
[19:38] <shallwe> lynxer10, vc instalou o debin 8?
[19:38] <lynxer10> eles se sentem orgulhosos disso
[19:38] <lynxer10> ainda nao
[19:38] <lynxer10> vou tentar hoje
[19:38] <lynxer10> quando sair do trabalho
[19:38] <shallwe> lynxer10, a bom minha ati nao rolou no debian 8
[19:38] <lynxer10> tenho duas maquinas
[19:38] <lynxer10> 1 laptop con intel hd 4000
[19:39] <lynxer10> e um desktop com radeon r7260x
[19:39] <barna> na minha nvidia 540m tb não
[19:39] <lynxer10> vou tentar no laptop primeiro
[19:39] <shallwe> barna, pois é, acho que é o kernel
[19:39] <lynxer10> no ubuntu nao consegui instalar o proprietario da minha r7260x
[19:39] <shallwe> vi que o kernel acima do 4.1 não ta rolando ati
[19:39] <lynxer10> da erro
[19:39] <shallwe> nvidia não sei
[19:39] <shallwe> drive proprietário claro
[19:40] <shallwe> lynxer10, ubuntu 15.10?
[19:40] <lynxer10> encontrei depois no site que ainda nao tem compatibilidade com o 15.10
[19:40] <lynxer10> sim 15,10
[19:40] <lynxer10> nos anteriores sim funciona
[19:40] <shallwe> não é o ubuntu é o kernel
[19:40] <barna> o fogo é q aqueles notebook com 2 placas de video.
[19:40] <lynxer10> pois eh meu ubuntu no desk ta com 15.10 e kernel 4.3
[19:40] <lynxer10> e nada da placa funcionar
[19:40] <shallwe> eu acho um pleno desperdício ter uma placa de video e usar drive opensouce
[19:40] <shallwe> placa de video boa claro
[19:40] <barna> no ubuntu com kernel 3.x e 4.x funcionam as 2 de boa!
[19:41] <shallwe> barna, a bom nao sei nvidia é que tenho ati
[19:41] <lynxer10> no meu nao funcionou da erro nos modules
[19:41] <shallwe> e ati radeon não funciona nas 4.x está no site da radeon
[19:41] <barna> sim sim, to falando q no meu caso num é problema de kernel.
[19:41] <shallwe> a bom :)
[19:42] <lynxer10> o meu da sempre pau na placa de video por isso vou instalar o debian primeiro no laptop
[19:42] <shallwe> mas como uso ubuntu 14.04 tenho tudo instalado funcionando 100% :)
[19:42] <lynxer10> e ver o que da
[19:42] <barna> é do debian. uma pena, pois tenho vontade de usa-lo
[19:42] <shallwe> o debian 8 vem cru, nem video opensouce vem instalado :)
[19:42] <lynxer10> eu fui meio que coagido a usar por um amigo que e da area de ti
[19:42] <lynxer10> vou tentar
[19:42] <lynxer10> nao tenho nada a perder mesmo
[19:42] <lynxer10> ahuhauhauh
[19:42] <lynxer10> tudo guardado em disco externo
[19:43] <lynxer10> da pra brincar de instalar OS diretamente sem VM´s
[19:43] <shallwe> lynxer10, isso ai, eu uso tudo no dropbox meus trabalhos ta tudo la :) se der pau só baixar
[19:43] <lynxer10> exatamente cara
[19:43] <lynxer10> eu de mania boto nos dois
[19:43] <shallwe> hoje em dia é assim, e acesso de onde estiver tb
[19:43] <lynxer10> dropbox e um disco externo
[19:43] <lynxer10> nao tenho como perder
[19:44] <shallwe> isso aí :)
[19:44] <lynxer10> verdade
[19:44] <shallwe> nunca é de mais garantir kkkk
[19:44] <lynxer10> auhuhauhauhauh exatamente
[19:44] <lynxer10> entao no desk nem ta me incomodando muito pois nao uso pra jogar
[19:44] <lynxer10> entao estou esperando reslverem esse pau com a radeon (kernel)
[19:44] <lynxer10> no 14.04 realmente funciona
[19:45] <shallwe> lynxer10, qual placa radeon vc tem?
[19:45] <lynxer10> mas como eu nao consigo ficar desatualziado nao me aguentei instalei o 15.10 e ae pronto ferrou tudo
[19:45] <lynxer10> r7260x 2 gb ram ddr5
[19:45] <shallwe> até o 15.04 funcionava comigo
[19:46] <lynxer10> nem testei o 15.04 cai direto no 15.10
[19:46] <shallwe> lynxer10, estou vendo essa sua placa é boa até quase igual a minha
[19:46] <lynxer10> por isso acho que o debian vai ser uma dor de cabeca pra mim pq ele vem com kernell 3.16 e nao vou me aguentar e vou tentar colocar o 4.3 e assim as dores de cabeca surgirao
[19:46] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhauh
[19:46] <lynxer10> ela e bozinha sim
[19:47] <lynxer10> e low range pra mid range
[19:47] <shallwe> lynxer10, eu testei dota 2 e metro last nihjt redux no steam e rodou tão bem quanto no windows
[19:47] <lynxer10> roda as coisas razoavelmente bem
[19:47] <shallwe> radeon ati tem uns drivers legais pra ubuntu
[19:47] <lynxer10> na realidade deve rodar melhor mesmo
[19:47] <shallwe> lynxer10, depende
[19:48] <shallwe> se for jogo nativo feito em opengl sim
[19:48] <lynxer10> po eu tenho win 10 na minha maquina sao impressionantes 50 gb de instalacao
[19:48] <lynxer10> e incrivel
[19:48] <lynxer10> acho que o win 15 ou 20 voce vai ter que ter um HD so pra ele
[19:48] <shallwe> a sim ocupa bastante mas hoje em dia hds de 1tb é fichinha kkk
[19:48] <shallwe> mas realmente linux não é pra jogo, se quer jogar melhor usar windows, chegando directx 12 ai
[19:49] <lynxer10> po fichinha quando vc compra HDD ne? se for SSD ta morto
[19:49] <lynxer10> fato
[19:49] <shallwe> ssd é um horror de caro, vale a pena ter um de 128gb só pro sistema, e o resto fazer no hd separado
[19:49] <lynxer10> pois e
[19:49] <lynxer10> exatamente o que fiz
[19:49] <lynxer10> e a diferenca de velocidade e impressionante
[19:49] <shallwe> 128gb já voa o sistema
[19:50] <shallwe> pra mim não faz muita diferença, pois já roda legal no HD mesmo nao uso nada que consulte muito o hd
[19:50] <lynxer10> cara a diferenca e grande
[19:50] <lynxer10> tinha hd de 320 no laptop
[19:50] <lynxer10> de 7200 rpm
[19:50] <lynxer10> coloquei o ssd
[19:51] <lynxer10> eu nao consigo nem ver o ubuntu iniciar
[19:51] <lynxer10> aparece direto a tela de login
[19:51] <lynxer10> e impressionante
[19:51] <lynxer10> uma pena mesmo esse hd ser tao caro
[19:51] <lynxer10> senao nunca mais usava o outro
[19:51] <shallwe> lynxer10, uma hora compro 1 :)
[19:52] <shallwe> nem ta tao caro pra 128gb uns 220,00 reais
[19:52] <barna> eu tava pra comprar um ssd quando o dolar subiu, me lasquei!
[19:52] <lynxer10> faca isso que voce nao vai se arrepender em nda eu peguei o kingston de 120 de 6gb/s acho
[19:52] <lynxer10> e incrivel
[19:52] <lynxer10> paguei 260,00
[19:52] <lynxer10> e caro
[19:52] <lynxer10> mas nao me arrependeo
[19:54] <lynxer10> deu mole barna
[19:54] <barna> pois é. fiquei pensando muito e perdi.... tava 120R$
[19:55] <lynxer10> caramba menos da metade do que paguei
[19:55] <lynxer10> deu mole master
[19:55] <barna> fodo, mas como eu ia saber q o dolar ia explodir?
[19:55] <lynxer10> uhauhau e verdade nao tinha como adivinhar
[19:56] <shallwe> barna, mas já estava 250,00 reais faz tempo :) antes do dolar explodir agora nem sei o valor mais kkk
[19:57] <lynxer10> ate dava pra especular mas 4 conto nunca
[19:57] <lynxer10> pois e 120 tava muito barato
[19:57] <lynxer10> comprei tem uns 4 meses paguei 260 pila chorando
[19:57] <barna> eu tinha achado kingston por 120R$. :(
[19:58] <lynxer10> fiquei mais com pena de voe que nao comprou do que de mim que nao achou nesse preco auhauhuhauha
[19:58] <barna> KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk
[19:58] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauh
[19:58] <shallwe> fogo que 128gb pra mim nao da :( só de emulador tenho uns 100 gigas
[19:59] <barna> pra mim era só pro OS mesmo, pq trampo com video, tenho coleção de hd externo aki
[19:59] <lynxer10> so uso pra OS mesmo
[19:59] <lynxer10> o arranque do OS
[19:59] <lynxer10> que faz toda diferenca do mundo
[19:59] <lynxer10> caramba
[19:59] <lynxer10> 100 gb
[19:59] <lynxer10> que diabos de emluador e esse meu fio?
[20:00] <barna> ia fazer aquele esquema de ligar o hd interno (1tb) no lugar do drive de dvd (q não uso pra nada)
[20:00] <shallwe> lynxer10, tudo eu coleciono :) é a única coisa legal nos jogos , nostalgia total kkk
[20:00] <shallwe> não jogo nada moderno nem tenho muito tempo
[20:00] <lynxer10> uhauauhauhuha mete isso num hd externo po de 5400 rpm ou 7200 rpm que sao bem mais baratos
[20:01] <lynxer10> a nao ser que isso seja em laptop ae ferrou
[20:01] <lynxer10> tem que ser externo mesmo
[20:01] <shallwe> :) mas isso já está em um hd externo salvo, nem jogo é só questão de coleção mesmo kkk
[20:01] <lynxer10> eu coloquei o raiz / no ssd e o /home no HDD
[20:02] <shallwe> ta tudo direitinho com os caminhos roms só plugar o hd e rodar no ubuntu
[20:02] <lynxer10> uhauha cara 100 gb e muita coisa em emulador
[20:02] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauha
[20:03] <lynxer10> vou ver se faco um video dps dos pcs bootando
[20:03] <lynxer10> pra voces verem, e realmente incrivel
[20:04] <shallwe> eu nem desligo o pc, ele só dorme :)
[20:05] <lynxer10> huauhaauha, po ganha um tempo bom com isso mesmo
[20:05] <barna> tem um mano q trampa com nois q ta com um note i7 4 geração e SSD, tipo.... ligar e desligar são tempos q não existem.
[20:05] <lynxer10> sem ter que bootar toda hora realmente adiliza a situacao
[20:06] <lynxer10> i7 bomba mesmo
[20:06] <lynxer10> pegar aquele disco samsung ssd evo 850
[20:06] <lynxer10> e um foguete
[20:07] <lynxer10> ahh, eu comprei esse intel compute stick a versao windows e obviamente vou instalar o linux mas ja andei lendo que ta dando pau no som e no wifi espero poder recorrer aos brothers aqui pra botar o bixin funcionando
[20:07] <lynxer10> auhauhauha
[20:09] <lynxer10> dei uma sorte do caramba, um brother foi pro exterior e meu trouxe por 59 doleta, instalei o ubuntu mas nao funcionou ae um conhecido que faz computacao disse que ia tentar resolver isso foi semana passada e nada uhauhauha ja vi que vai voltar igual
[20:13] <Aloizio> boa tarde, galera.
[20:13] <lynxer10> fala ae fio
[20:14] <lynxer10> :) boa tarde
[20:14] <barna> tarde
[20:14] <SirRafiki> :D e ai pessoal
[20:14] <lynxer10> coeh!
[20:14] <lynxer10> uhauhauh
[20:14] <lynxer10> :P
[20:14] <Aloizio> preciso de uma dica
[20:15] <lynxer10> rapaiz sou o maior noobao da paroquia mas se eu puder ajudar, ajudarei
[20:16] <Aloizio> estou estudando sobre servidor de arquivos e etc, e gostaria de saber se tem como fazer perfil movel na rede tipo active directory do windows
[20:16] <Aloizio> mas servidor linux, e demais maquinas com windows
[20:16] <barna> Aloizio, como assim, explique melhor
[20:16] <barna> vc quer q as maquinas windows acessem arquivos do servidor linux?
[20:17] <lynxer10> rapaiz nao entendi nada acho que excedeu minha "caspacidade"
[20:18] <Aloizio> Possuo uma rede onde temos 8 terminais com win7, gostaria que quando o usuario Aloizio logar em qualquer uma das maquinas e carregue seu desktop e meus documentos.
[20:18] <barna> ai são as confs do windows eu creio! num vejo onde o linux entra nesse jogada!
[20:18] <Aloizio> lynxer10, tb não sei nada, mas estamos estudando a galera aqui tem dicas quentes de sites e foruns, livros e etc
[20:19] <barna> ps, barna é noob em windows, meu ultimo win foi o xp......
[20:19] <lynxer10> uhauhauhauhauh
[20:19] <lynxer10> eu sou nooba em tudo ta melhor que eu barna
[20:19] <rafael> Aloizio: GPO
[20:19] <rafael> Aloizio: ou então script de inicialização
[20:19] <Aloizio> GPO
[20:19] <barna> Aloizio, sugiro vc entrar no canal de suporte ruindows. se quiseres ajuda em rede linux to aki
[20:20] <rafael> Aloizio: dá pra fazer isso com Samba 4
[20:20] <barna> se quiser fazer isso em ubuntu eu posso te ajudar, uso isso aki!
[20:20] <lynxer10> se e acessar windows x linux e com o samba
[20:21] <barna> inclusive tenho estações de trabalho diskless (sem hd, até o sistema vem pela rede)
[20:21] <lynxer10> se e linux com linux vc consegue pelo ssh
[20:21] <lynxer10> agora so nao entendi o que voce quer fazer
[20:21] <Aloizio> ok, é que o servidor é linux os demais win. uso ubuntu com servidor samba, vou pequisar isso com samba, e GPO
[20:22] <rafael> Aloizio: samba4?
[20:22] <barna> se fosse ubuntu > ubuntu era só montar o /home/usuario da rede sempra por cifs no boot
[20:22] <rafael> barna: NFS+NIS resolveria o problema tb
[20:22] <lynxer10> entao vc tem uma maquina com o ubuntu server
[20:22] <barna> sempra não, samba
[20:22] <lynxer10> vc tem 8 maquinas windows e vc quer acessar esse ubuntu server com essas maquinas e isso?
[20:23] <barna> rafael, consegues montar nfs no windows?
[20:23] <rafael> Sim
[20:23] <barna> a sim, ubuntu > ubuntu, já usei nfs muito.
[20:23] <barna> mas bati numas coisas q não consegui resolver.
[20:23] <rafael> Tipo o que?
[20:24] <barna> tipo, se eu monto um hdexterno no /home/usuario/pasta não vai por nfs, tem q fazer outro compartilhamento e outra montagem.
[20:25] <barna> já se tiver por samba é só montar o hd externo q os arquivos aparecem no cliente.
[20:25] <Aloizio> lynxer, imagina um servidor linux, imagine que temos 8 professores e nem sempre eles usam os mesmo computadores win7, mas ao logar em qualquer computador com seu usuário e senha tenham seus arquivos da área trabalho e meus ducumentos disponiveis
[20:25] <lynxer10> hmm entendi
[20:26] <barna> já ouvi falar nisso........
[20:26] <barna> mas só linux > linux
[20:26] <lynxer10> pois e
[20:26] <lynxer10> eu acho que li alguma coisa do tipo
[20:26] <rafael> Aloizio: é mais fácil fazer mapeamento automático
[20:27] <Aloizio> o exemplo real onde acontece isso é agencia bancaria onde minha mulher trabalha. computadores win, e servidor linux. aplicação muito interessante de se aprender
[20:27] <rafael> Aloizio: como são apenas 8 computadores é melhor fazer mapeamento automático
[20:29] <rafael> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Implementing_roaming_profiles
[20:29] <rafael> Mas taí como implementar roaming profiles
[20:29] <Aloizio> certo, vou ver estas opções ai, samba4 e mapeamento de diretório
[20:30] <elcio> oi, estou tentando instalar o ubuntu 14.04.3 mas ta dificil
[20:30] <elcio> é pq ja tenho um instalado , so nao sei qual versao
[20:30] <nuno_nunes> boa noite
[20:30] <nuno_nunes> elcio, o que se passa
[20:30] <lynxer10> po vei, nao e dificil conte-nos sua dificuldade que vamos ver se podemos ajudar
[20:30] <lynxer10> aee nuno
[20:30] <lynxer10> apareceu
[20:30] <lynxer10> boa noite
[20:30] <nuno_nunes> eu entrei agora
[20:31] <nuno_nunes> vim actualizar o pc :D
[20:31] <lynxer10> i saw
[20:31] <hggdh> lynxer10: por favor, não use ENTER como pontuação
[20:31] <nuno_nunes> hggdh, boas amigo
[20:31] <hggdh> nuno_nunes: boas :)
[20:31] <Aloizio> até hj só conheci uma pessoa com apelido nuno mora em cachoerinha-RS não é vc neh?
[20:31] <nuno_nunes> tudo bem hggdh
[20:31] <Aloizio> pq tb trabalha com TI
[20:32] <nuno_nunes> quem
[20:32] <Aloizio> um tal de nuno
[20:32] <nuno_nunes> eu quero ajudar
[20:32] <nuno_nunes> nuno sou eu
[20:32] <nuno_nunes> mas eu nao trabalho com ti
[20:33] <lynxer10> ok
[20:33] <nuno_nunes> so venho para ajudar :)
[20:33] <nuno_nunes> nos meus tempos livres :)
[20:33] <nuno_nunes> volto daqui nada
[20:33] <barna> galera o elcio ta precisando de suporte, vamos levar esse offtopc pro ##ubuntu-br-offtopic ??
[20:34] <nuno_nunes> eu falei com ele mas ele nao diz nada :S
[20:34] <barna> elcio, qual problema vc ta enfrentando?
[20:34] <nuno_nunes> aff
[20:35] <hggdh> elcio: o que ocorre?
[20:35] <elcio> tava instalando o ubuntu i deu issu: An error(1) occured while executing syslinux. Your USB drive won't be bootable...
[20:36] <elcio> infelismente acho q nao tem como mandar print da pagina aq , senao mandava
[20:37] <barna> elcio, como q vc fez o pendrive.
[20:37] <elcio> vish vc me fez uma pergunta dificil
[20:37] <nuno_nunes> foi pelo linux ou windows
[20:37] <nuno_nunes> :)
[20:37] <elcio> windows
[20:37] <elcio> estou no windows
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> entao faça a pendrive do ubuntu com ubootnetin :)
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> no windows
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> e fica resolvido
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> mas a pen tem que estar formatada em fat32
[20:38] <elcio> kkkkkkkkkk lascou entao
[20:38] <elcio> pq nao da pra formatar ele
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> nao da para formatar?
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> como?
[20:39] <elcio> n
[20:39] <elcio> perai
[20:39] <nuno_nunes> que erro te da
[20:39] <nuno_nunes> procure o rufus e formate a pen com ele
[20:40] <elcio> esse ero: nao é possivel gravar no disco pq ele está protegido contra gravação. remova a proteçao contra gravaçãovdo volume na unidade
[20:40] <Aloizio> Rafael achei um material com samba4 e algo é isso que vou dar uma estudada agora.
[20:40] <Aloizio> http://www.cooperati.com.br/2015/03/16/samba-4-com-gpo-e-cliente-windows-8/
[20:40] <hggdh> bem, a mensagem de erro é bem explicada
[20:41] <nuno_nunes> veja se tenha um interptoor
[20:41] <nuno_nunes> :S
[20:41] <lynxer10> e um pendrive mesmo ou um adaptador de SD para pendrive?
[20:41] <elcio> pen driv
[20:41] <elcio> drive
[20:42] <lynxer10> entao ele deve ter algum switch pra proteger contra gravacao imagino eu
[20:42] <shallwe> elcio, isso é erro do pendrive
[20:42] <shallwe> eu tinha um pendrive que estragou e começou a dar esse erro, não conseguia fazer nada nele, nem apagar nem deletar nada
[20:42] <lynxer10> ou o pendrive ja ta ferrado
[20:43] <shallwe> elcio, vc consegue criar algo lá ou deletar alguma coisa do pendrive?
[20:43] <elcio_> i vc fez o q para o pendrive voltar a funcionar?
[20:44] <elcio_> ou nao restou pra mais nada
[20:44] <elcio_> ?????????
[20:44] <shallwe> elcio_, eu? eu fiz sim, toquei no lixo :) kkkk
[20:44] <lynxer10> acho que se e o que to pensando so jogando fora cara
[20:44] <shallwe> pendrive hoje em dia é descartável, claro que era uma marca diabo
[20:44] <lynxer10> e comprando outro
[20:44] <elcio_> quer dizer q o meu pendrive ta pedido ???!!!!!!!!!
[20:44] <shallwe> elcio_, qual a marca dele?
[20:45] <elcio_> multileiser
[20:45] <shallwe> vixi
[20:45] <shallwe> e tem quantos gigas?
[20:45] <elcio_> 16
[20:45] <elcio_> gb
[20:45] <shallwe> hoje em dia 16gb é baratinho
[20:45] <elcio_> kkkkkkkkkk
[20:45] <shallwe> elcio_, já tentou deletar algo dele?
[20:45] <shallwe> pra ver se deleta ou criar algo ou copiar algo pra ele?
[20:45] <elcio_> vo tentar aq
[20:46] <shallwe> elcio_, blz
[20:46] <elcio_> o diacho travo
[20:46] <elcio_> impossivel arrrg
[20:46] <lynxer10> e, babou entao lixo e compre outro
[20:48] <elcio_> vai ser o jeito
[20:48] <elcio_> valeu ai galera
[20:48] <lynxer10> falou
[20:48] <shallwe> olha que legal eu não sabia que era assim mas...
[20:48] <shallwe> "amos dizer que a memória flash fez todos esses ciclos, consumiu o ciclo 100.000 e o dispositivo vai efetuar o ciclo de gravação 100.001 o que acontece depois disso? Simplesmente bloqueia a gravação, mantendo assim os dados intactos passíveis de recuperação, alertando no sistema operacional o erro de protegido contra gravação,"
[20:49] <elcio_> de quantos gb serve pra rodar o ubuntu?
[20:49] <elcio_> ou ubootnetin
[20:49] <shallwe> 4 gb
[20:49] <elcio_> i eu instalo qual dos dois ubuntu ou ubootnetin
[20:50] <elcio_> ??
[20:50] <shallwe> elcio_,
[20:50] <nuno_nunes> o ubootnetin serve para criar a pen de boot
[20:50] <nuno_nunes> usb
[20:50] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:50] <shallwe> elcio_, olha o privado se quiser tentar
[20:50] <shallwe> mas o risco é seu hein !
[20:51] <shallwe> se encher sua maquina de spys kkkk
[20:51] <elcio_> kkkk de boa
[20:51] <nuno_nunes> eu vim para o opensuse :p
[20:54] <nuno_nunes> eu já nem sei como ajudar :S
[21:08] <rubens_> Olá, eu estou com uns problemas na conf. do Apache
[21:08] <rubens_> A página não muda da Default, já configurei o `site`.conf e o "sudo a2dissite 000-default.conf "
[21:10] <barna> ixi ai vc falow grego pra mim rubens_
[21:10] <rubens_> :/
[21:11] <rubens_> O problema é que a página está como indo para a padrão
[21:11] <rubens_> Mas eu já conf. tudo
[21:13] <shallwe> rubens_, mas o ubuntu não precisa de apache pra rodar o.O
[21:14] <rubens_> ?
[21:14] <nuno_nunes> rubens_, qual é ajuda que precisas
[21:14] <rubens_> Eu estou tentando hospedar um site
[21:14] <shallwe> acho que vc está no canal errado :) já tentou o #php-br?
[21:15] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, o apache serve para criar servidores
[21:15] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, sim tem várias aplicações pra ele
[21:15] <shallwe> uso pra rodar minhas páginas no locahost da minha máquina
[21:16] <rubens_> O problema é que a página está como indo para a padrão
[21:16] <nuno_nunes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8NeO5eAmJ8
[21:16] <nuno_nunes> ruben é normal
[21:16] <rubens_> Mas eu já configurei tudo
[21:17] <nuno_nunes> http://wiki.locaweb.com.br/pt-br/Apache:_instala%C3%A7%C3%A3o_e_configura%C3%A7%C3%A3o_em_servidores_Linux_Ubuntu_-_Cloud_Server_Pro
[21:18] <rubens_> Eu estou usando o Ubuntu
[21:18] <rubens_> z_z
[21:18] <rubens_> Deixa quieto
[21:18] <nuno_nunes> deixa quieto o que???
[21:19] <nuno_nunes> tu queres ajuda ou não :S
[21:22] <rubens_> Não
[21:22] <rubens_> Como eu copio um directorio
[21:22] <rubens_> a minha pasta está como "site" não como "site.com"
[21:22] <rubens_> o cp não está funcionando
[21:23] <barna> pasta eu uso cp -rfvp
[21:25] <elcio_> alguem sabe como faço para excluir o ubuntu
[21:26] <shallwe> kkk http://br-linux.org/2015/01/na-pratica-gamingonlinux-comenta-a-experiencia-de-uso-com-uma-steam-machine.html#disqus_thread
[21:27] <shallwe> elcio_, vc quer tirar o ubuntu? mas ele não estava no pendrive?
[21:27] <elcio_> mas parece que ta instalado no pc tambem
[21:27] <shallwe> o 14.04?
[21:27] <nuno_nunes> ???
[21:27] <elcio_> qdo vai pra iniciar aparece windows e logo abaixo ubuntu
[21:28] <shallwe> elcio_, e se vc clicar no ubuntu ele entra ?
[21:28] <elcio_> sei la q versao q instalei
[21:28] <nuno_nunes> ele deve ter instalado a versao do windows
[21:28] <elcio_> so tentei com o pendrive
[21:28] <elcio_> q nao dava certo
[21:28] <nuno_nunes> vai ao painel de controlo e ve programas e funcionalidades
[21:28] <shallwe> elcio_, tira esse pendrive maldito dai kkk e faz boot normalmente
[21:28] <shallwe> ve se aparece algo
[21:28] <elcio_> como assim a versao do windows
[21:28] <nuno_nunes> tem mas tem muitos erros
[21:28] <nuno_nunes> :D
[21:28] <shallwe> pendrive do capeta esse teu
[21:28] <elcio_> kkkkkkkkkkk
[21:29] <elcio_> alow
[21:29] <elcio_> falow
[21:29] <shallwe> elcio_, melhor coisa é pegar um pendrive, deixa o ubuntu ai quietinho ai depois vc instala o 14.04 no pc, formantando a partição que esta o antigo
[21:29] <nuno_nunes> fugiu lol
[21:29] <nuno_nunes> xD
[21:32] <rubens_> Como eu removo um directorio com arquivos ? rmdir -rf não está funcionando
[21:32] <rubens_> Dscp glr :/
[21:33] <barna> rubens_, sudo rm -rf
[21:34] <barna> cuidado com esse comando ele pode ser letal
[21:36] <elcio> shallwe deu erro, falou q o ubuntu foi instalado errado
[21:39] <rubens_> Obg glr sz
[21:42] <barna> elcio, vc num tem um dvd pra gravar o ubuntu ai não?
[21:42] <elcio> nao, mas posso arrumar.. pq
[21:45] <elcio> é melhor ter no cd ou no pendrive??
[21:46] <nuno_nunes> na pen
[21:47] <nuno_nunes> mas o pc tem que ter suporte de boot por usb
[21:48] <barna> elcio, na verdade cd não cabe tem q ser dvd.
[21:48] <barna> falei do dvd pq seu pen foi pro saco.....
[21:48] <elcio> ok
[21:49] <elcio> i tem como pr exemplo ter o ubuntu i o edubuntu no mesmo computador?
[21:51] <barna> sim
[21:51] <barna> elcio, eu tenho 7 instalações linux no meu comp atualmente
[21:52] <elcio> mas tem q dividir os espaços do disco
[21:52] <elcio> correto
[21:53] <barna> sim, eu deixo pequenas partições pros sistemas e uma grande pro /home
[21:54] <barna> pra instalação basica deixo 10gb, pra instalação com muitos programas deixo 20gb
[21:54] <nuno_nunes> elcio podes ter varias partições
[22:09] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:50] <nuno_nunes> boa noite algume esta precisar de suporte
[22:50] <astroo-> ola
[22:51] <nuno_nunes> hallo
[22:56] <nuno_nunes> bem vindo precisa de suporte?
[23:00] <lynxer11> fala ae galera, estou instalando o debian e primeiro pau nao reconhce o touchpad do laptop ja comecei bem
[23:01] <astroo-> ola
[23:01] <astroo-> isso e ##debian-br
[23:08] <nuno_nunes> astroo-, sabias que o ubuntu é baseado no debian
[23:08] <astroo-> sabia obrigado
[23:09] <lynxer11> nuno relaxa ele nao estava hj mais cedo
[23:09] <lynxer11> aqui e de ubuntu mesmo mas como eu tinha combinado que ia tentar instalar o debian ele nao estava de manha e nao sabe por isso que eu falei do debian no canal do ubuntu astroo
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> astro eu ja cheguei a tirar duvidas do ubuntu no canal do debian :D
[23:11] <nuno_nunes> quando comecei com o ubuntu
[23:12] <astroo-> ok
[23:12] <nuno_nunes> eu tenho debian tamnem
[23:14] <nuno_nunes> astroo-, muda para linux
[23:14] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:15] <lynxer11> huahuauhuha
[23:25] <barna> lynxer11, touchpat como um todo não funciona ou só o click batendo o dedo? debian por defaul vem com click batendo o dedo desabilitado.
[23:26] <nuno_nunes> barna, ele já resolveu
[23:26] <barna> oks, é q num vi mais falas sobre isso....
[23:27] <nuno_nunes> pk elestava a falar no privado
[23:27] <barna> hummmmmm......
[23:27] <barna> blz.
[23:29] <nuno_nunes> mas que net
[23:29] <nuno_nunes> :S
[23:55] <barna> lynxer10, tas ai ainda?
[23:57] <MerliM> barna, cabou e ta
[23:57] <MerliM> de*
[23:57] <MerliM> kkk
[23:57] <MerliM> agora tunado
[23:58] <lynxer11> pronto galera gracas a ajuda do nuno estou rodando o debian 8.2
[23:58] <lynxer11> vamos ver quanto tempo aguento
[23:58] <barna> resolveu o cdrom?
[23:58] <lynxer11> apesar de ser a base do ubuntu e bem diferente as coisas
[23:58] <lynxer11> foi sim barna
[23:59] <lynxer11> esta de boa agora. nuno me salvou. acho que vou aprender a dar valor ao ubuntu. ate o momento muito mais pratico sem falar que esse gnome nao e la das melhores coisas
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-rs
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[17:32] <ubiunti> zdravo
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <svij> hey dholbach
[08:23] <dholbach> hi svij
[08:37] <Kilos> hi dholbach svij and all others
[08:39] <svij> morning Kilos and dpm
[08:39] <Kilos> ohi dpm too
[08:39] <dpm> morning all o/
[08:41] <svij> dpm: dholbach: nhaines: I'll come to UbuCon Summit \o/ (if the request from the community donations get accepted)
[08:46] <dpm> svij, ah, cool! We'll be looking at the donations requests next Wednesday, and hopefully we can give you an answer later on in the week
[08:46] <svij> nice :)
[08:46] <nhaines> svij: pong. :)
[08:47] <nhaines> Also yay! \o/
[08:47] <svij> nhaines: ah, there you are ;) Just wanted to ask if you may need another speaker or is your schedule already fix? :)
[08:50] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[08:51] <dholbach> svij, nice
[10:19] <nhaines> svij: we're looking good for speakers but if you have a good idea you should still let us know! :)
[10:20] <nhaines> I just found out my talk was accepted for SCALE, so yay!
[10:23] <svij> nhaines: that's the problem, I don't have a good idea ;)
[10:24] <svij> what is your talk about?
[10:24] <nhaines> svij: haha, well, I only have good ideas every two or three years. ;)
[10:24] <nhaines> My talk is "Writing and Publishing a Book Using Free Software".
[10:24] <nhaines> I have it under good authority that this can be done!
[10:25] <svij> ah cool, is that the same talk you gave at the other conference, where I watched the talk von youtube?
[10:26] <nhaines> Yup!
[10:27] <svij> then I don't have to see that again :D
[10:28] <nhaines> It'll be better than watching Brian Lunduke's talk!
[10:32] <svij> nhaines: I could talk about "Reviving old laptops with (L)ubuntu for schools in developing countries"
[10:32] <svij> which would cover the labdoo.org project
[10:32] <svij> and a bit this blog post https://svij.org/blog/2015/02/05/labdoo-laptop-donation-to-a-school-in-sri-lanka/
[10:33] <nhaines> svij: send it to [email protected] and Richard and I will take a look at it.
[10:33] <nhaines> I just got back from a weekend camping trip and I'm not up on the current schedule status yet.
[10:34] <svij> nhaines: will do!
[10:38] <nhaines> Great! And with that, I have to get some sleep. :)
[10:39] <svij> good night! :)
[20:11] <DalekSec> [15:08:09] wxl (~wxl@ubuntu/member/wxl) has left #ubuntu-us-oh ()
[20:11] <DalekSec> [15:08:11] < Unit193> Have a lot of others expired?
[20:11] <DalekSec> wxl: Not sure, poked jrg and belkinsa a couple times, one ACK'd.
[20:22] <wxl> oh now i get it.
[20:22] <wxl> DalekSec: Unit193 is like DavrosSec, huh?>
[20:24] <wxl> anyways, when you're the lococouncil, a couple expirations seem like a lot. we
[20:24] <wxl> 've been trying really hard to stay on top of it and give people a 2 week heads up.
[20:25] <wxl> luckily we have two verifications to deal with today
[20:25] <wxl> re-verifications rather
[20:25] <wxl> so that's good
[20:34] <DalekSec> I'd like OH to stay verified, but not seen any/much from the other two leads and I'm only on there de-facto.
[20:35] <wxl> DalekSec: i'd like you guys to stay verified, too. might it be wise to seek other/additional leads for the team?
[20:36] <DalekSec> Not sure who, skellat was the last one that ran for it.
[20:37] <wxl> DalekSec: there's always you XD
[20:38] <wxl> !locoteam | hope you guys are ready for our meeting
[20:38] <ubot5`> hope you guys are ready for our meeting: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[20:38] <wxl> oh shoot
[20:38] <wxl> !lococouncil | hope you guys are ready for our meeting
[20:38] <ubot5`> hope you guys are ready for our meeting: The LoCo Council is coolbhavi, PabloRubianes, nhaines, wxl, and lunapersa - they are here to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at [email protected]
[20:48] <tsimonq2> oh HAI
[20:49] <wxl> DalekSec: sure seems that skellat is not gonig to be the guy. http://erielookingproductions.info/blog/on-staffing-re-staffing-and-jobs.html
[20:49] <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2015-November/007053.html
[20:49] <tsimonq2> I just wanted to wave here
[20:49] <tsimonq2> so o/
[20:50] <DalekSec> wxl: Right, he was just the last one that ran for it. After he had that, he assigned it to the 3 of us. Now it seems we're not even around...
[20:51] <DalekSec> wxl: Tried to get some talks going for OLF, but there weren't really many volunteers.
[20:51] <wxl> oh! our next meeting is NEXT week
[20:51] <wxl> oops
[20:52] <wxl> good job, tsimonq2. next step, get verified :)
[20:54] <tsimonq2> wxl: how?
[20:59] <wxl> tsimonq2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#Becoming_an_Approved_Team
[21:02] <tsimonq2> wxl: k thx
[21:03] <DalekSec> wxl: Yeah we're not going for it.
[21:05] <wxl> DalekSec: well, if you manage to wrangle the others, there's no reason you can't re-verify later.
[21:05] <DalekSec> [16:02:23] <+jrgifford> I guess we can't, since we aren't an active group.
[21:06] <wxl> DalekSec: active is what you define it. it's not like you guys do nothing.
[21:06] <DalekSec> wxl: Yeah pretty much, as an Ohio team we don't.
[21:06] <wxl> DalekSec: well nevermind then i guess :(
[21:07] <DalekSec> OLF is the biggest thing, and we couldn't really get anyone to speak.
[21:09] <wxl> DalekSec: you don't have to speak. just run a booth.
[22:54] <tsimonq2> wxl: is this still a thing? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds
[22:59] <tsimonq2> or any other member of the LoCo Council
[22:59] <tsimonq2> !lococouncil
[22:59] <ubot5`> The LoCo Council is coolbhavi, PabloRubianes, nhaines, wxl, and lunapersa - they are here to help, just ask! :) You can send them an email at [email protected]
[23:03] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: it is
[23:07] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: then why has the page not been updated in forever?
[23:08] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: not sure to be honest, there are tons of pages to keep updated
[23:08] <wxl> which page are we talking about here?
[23:08] <ahoneybun> I have quite a few 14.04 DVDs
[23:14] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds
[23:16] <wxl> tsimonq2: you found it, you fix it. i advise removing the mention of a specific version at all.
[23:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: but you can still request them?
[23:17] <wxl> tsimonq2: yep, but you gotta fix the wiki page or i'll tell them not to accept your request :)
[23:18] <wxl> note:
[23:18] <wxl> BEFORE YOU SUBMIT THE EMAIL...
[23:18] <wxl> Ensure you are an approved team - see the LoCoTeamList to see.
[23:18] <tsimonq2> I saw
[23:19] <tsimonq2> wxl: isn't there a waiting period after reincarnation to apply to be verified again?
[23:19] <wxl> tsimonq2: i don't see any value to that
[23:19] <tsimonq2> hmm ok
[23:19] <tsimonq2> wxl: and we just need to be active?
[23:19] <tsimonq2> wxl: and have leadership and such?
[23:20] <wxl> tsimonq2: proven activity, a road map. fill out the app and you'll see what's needed.
[23:20] <tsimonq2> wxl: where?
[23:20] <wxl> omg
[23:20] <wxl> how many times do i need to link you to this?!
[23:21] <tsimonq2> 500 :P
[23:21] <tsimonq2> this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#Becoming_an_Approved_Team
[23:21] <wxl> yes
[23:21] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved doesn't have anything on it
[23:22] <wxl> tsimonq2: write this down. i'm not giving it to you again :)
[23:22] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamVerificationGuidelines
[23:22] <tsimonq2> I keep finding it at one point...
[23:22] <tsimonq2> k thx
[23:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: would it be Verification or Reverification?
[23:23] <wxl> re
[23:23] <tsimonq2> k thx
[23:24] <wxl> er
[23:24] <wxl> wait hm hold on
[23:24] <wxl> nope verification
[23:25] <wxl> it doesn't seem to have ever been verified
[23:25] <tsimonq2> 0.0 what?
[23:25] <tsimonq2> gosh darnit Anthony
[23:28] <wxl> tsimonq2: language. there's kids in these channels XD
[23:29] <tsimonq2> XD heheheheheh
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:47] <hikiko> Hello !!
[06:36] <pitti> Godo morning
[07:01] <hikiko> good morning pitti
[08:37] <Laney> hey hey
[08:39] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:42] <larsu> good morning!
[08:43] <Laney> ahoy pitti, I'm good thanks!
[08:43] <Laney> was at a party at the weekend with an Elvis impersonator and a (fake) casino
[08:43] * Laney ended with 15 extra fake dollars
[08:43] <Laney> what about you?
[08:43] <Laney> and hey larsu!!!!
[08:48] <larsu> hi Laney! Sounds nice :)
[08:48] <larsu> morning pitti and hikiko!
[08:48] <pitti> Laney: hah, sounds fun! we had a nice weekend too; there was rather strong wind, I tried my new kite
[08:49] <Laney> nice
[08:49] <Laney> is it a stunt kite?
[08:49] <hikiko> morning larsu Laney pitti all
[08:49] <pitti> Laney: yes, but I'm not good enough yet for lots of stunts :)
[08:50] <pitti> Laney: I have this one: http://www.lenkdrachenshop.com/hq-lenkdrachen-maestro-iii-r2f-drachen-kite-sport-freizeit-neu-2014.html
[08:50] <Laney> hey hikiko
[08:50] <Laney> good weekend (and larsu)?
[08:50] <pitti> hey larsu, hello hikiko!
[08:51] <Laney> pitti: fun! it was very windy here too, would have been interesting to fly a kite in it :P
[08:51] <Laney> we have one like this http://www.skyhighkites.co.uk/shop/product/2486/HQ-Symphony-Beach-III-2,2M-Power-Kite.html
[08:51] <larsu> Laney: yes! Fainas family and a friend were here. Loads of fun and *a lot* of vodka
[08:51] <Laney> know some people who have a bigger one with four lines (instead of two), which are pretty powerful
[08:53] <Laney> larsu: за ваше здоровье!
[08:55] <Laney> ask Faina if this is legit :P
[08:55] * Laney doesn't trust the internet
[08:56] <pitti> Laney: normally you say "na" sdorowje, not "sa"
[08:56] <mitya57> no, за is legit for a toast :)
[08:56] <larsu> Laney: already waiting for her reply ;)
[08:56] <pitti> Laney: ah, they should be a lot more stable in the air and need less wind, but also slower, right?
[08:59] <Laney> pitti: I've not tried one like yours before
[08:59] <Laney> but you can float these box ones in place quite easily
[08:59] <Laney> thanks mitya57 ;-)
[09:01] <Laney> oh I also found a great sloe bush and got enough for 3l of gin :)
[09:01] * Laney just got reminded by seeing them in the freezer
[09:05] <willcooke> mornign
[09:05] <willcooke> urg
[09:05] <willcooke> good start
[09:06] <Laney> hi willcooke
[09:06] <Laney> how's it going?
[09:06] <willcooke> morning Laney
[09:08] <larsu> happy Monday willcooke
[09:09] <seb128> hey desktopers
[09:09] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney larsu pitti
[09:09] <larsu> bonjour seb128!
[09:10] <larsu> how ws your weekend?
[09:10] <pitti> bonjour seb128 ! ça va ?
[09:10] <seb128> great! (out of the news/events in Paris)
[09:10] <pitti> seb128: et comment est ta famille ? vont-ils bons après Paris ?
[09:10] <seb128> pitti, oui, tout le monde que je connais pas bien, merci
[09:10] <Laney> hey seb128!
[09:11] <seb128> spent saturday afternoon at a friend, played some football table and had fun there
[09:11] <seb128> and spent a quiet sunday with familly
[09:11] <pitti> j'ai essayé demander didrocks, mais il n'a pas encore repondé
[09:11] <seb128> willcooke, is didrocks supposed to be off today?
[09:11] <pitti> yes, swap day
[09:12] <seb128> he didn't say anything on friday
[09:12] <pitti> as per calendar
[09:12] <willcooke> yeah, swap
[09:12] <seb128> k
[09:12] <willcooke> oh, sorry just caught up
[09:12] <seb128> pitti, where did you ping him? telegram?
[09:12] <pitti> oui
[09:17] <davidcalle> willcooke, scopes patches good to go
[09:17] <davidcalle> Well, good for review at least
[09:17] <davidcalle> Also, hi o/
[09:18] <willcooke> davidcalle, thanks! I saw your commits yesterday, thanks for working on that. I'll poke the security team
[09:25] <Trevinho> hi
[09:26] <willcooke> morning Trevinho
[09:27] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[09:27] <Trevinho> hey willcooke, seb128
[09:31] <larsu> hi Trevinho!
[09:31] <larsu> what's up?
[09:31] <Trevinho> hi larsu...
[09:33] <Trevinho> Whatttttt... There's a small bug in my LCD. In the space between the led light and the panel itself :o
[09:35] <larsu> haha cool
[09:36] <willcooke> Just got an SMS from didrocks
[09:42] <seb128> willcooke, good
[09:43] <willcooke> Trevinho, the curse of the moving comma
[09:43] <willcooke> honestly, when I used to do IT support I have to see someone with a comma they couldn't delete
[09:44] <willcooke> and it was a bug crawling around
[09:44] <Trevinho> :D
[09:48] <pitti> seb128: hah, il a repondé maintenant, lui et sa famille vont biens
[09:48] <seb128> pitti, super
[10:02] <Trevinho> seb128: I've got a private mail from a guy saying that in u-s-d / upower that we ship there's no support for the keyboard backlight... Or better, it doesn't remember the previous settings.
[10:03] <Trevinho> seb128: it seems the fix is in g-s-d 3.16, is there any plan to backport that?
[10:03] <Trevinho> I guess there's a bug for that but I didn't search yet
[10:06] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1510344 ?
[10:06] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1510344 in linux (Ubuntu) "Keyboard Backlight Turns on at boot" [Low,Confirmed]
[10:06] <seb128> Trevinho, no current plan afaik
[10:07] <seb128> but Laney seems to know more than me about that ;-)
[10:07] <Trevinho> :)
[10:07] <Laney> just saw the bug
[10:07] <Trevinho> Laney: that bug seems somewhat related more to the kernel though... The boot side, not the suspension one
[10:07] <seb128> I've no hardware to test on
[10:07] <seb128> so not going to be me that work on it
[10:07] <Laney> what does no support mean?
[10:07] <Laney> it clearly does have some support
[10:08] <Trevinho> So the thing is:
[10:08] <Trevinho> you change the brightness level of the keyboard to a lower value -> suspend -> resume -> keyboard backlight is back to the maximum level
[10:08] <Laney> if you know a fix then cherry pick it?
[10:09] <Trevinho> Yeah, that's the thing, I asked if anyone knew the fix :)
[10:09] * Trevinho looks in git
[10:22] <Trevinho> Laney, seb128: from a quick look it seems it's not just a commit... We mostly need to backport the whole power plugin as it has been changed a lot to work with newest upower (which seems to support this thing)
[10:25] <Trevinho> the changes aren't small, but it would be worth trying IMHO... As being updated on power-related stuff is always nice
[10:31] <seb128> Trevinho, we did backport the new upower work
[10:31] <seb128> the api changed we couldn't stay on the old one
[10:32] <Trevinho> mh weird... I made a diff between the two, and I see huge changes
[10:32] <Trevinho> APIs are ok, I mean.. But there's no support for new features maybe?
[10:37] <seb128> there was quite some refactoring, unsure about features
[10:37] <seb128> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/log/?qt=grep&q=power
[10:39] <willcooke> seb128, Trevinho - any ideas why I don't see X here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1477068/+nominate
[10:39] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1477068 in unity (Ubuntu) "Activating an application through the indicators doesn't bring it to the foreground" [High,Triaged]
[10:40] <willcooke> Is it that Unity needs a special X branch set up>?
[10:40] <Trevinho> seb128: it might be related to the change to backlight_iface_emit_changed, which in our case only supports screen interface, not also keyboard one
[10:40] <davmor2> willcooke: bluetooth does work out of the box on the xps 13, it kinda looks like it does but it seems to be missing some firmware who do I need to ping about that?
[10:41] <Trevinho> willcooke: that's an old issue, and... well, there's no real fix for that. Indicators have to be fixed to launch apps with the timestamp of the click event
[10:41] <Trevinho> willcooke: I fixed some of them in the past, but not everyone is feasible as it needs some X dependencies
[10:42] <seb128> willcooke, those are unity project targets
[10:42] <seb128> not Ubuntu ones
[10:42] <willcooke> ah, right, thanks
[10:43] <willcooke> davmor2, hrm. Well, if it's firmware that we can get hold of an distribute I expect the foundations team will need to include it
[10:43] <Laney> change the URL to /ubuntu/+source/unity...
[10:44] <davmor2> willcooke: dell have a deb I think in the driver pack after a lot of digging, but I followed steps for converting the windows to an ubuntu compatible version
[10:45] <Trevinho> seb128: this might be a start... https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/5614e2c7a275a092e1fcf43450d7f0c5730c14bd
[10:45] <davmor2> willcooke: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_13_(2015)
[10:46] * Trevinho has not such keyboard to test with, though...
[10:46] <seb128> Trevinho, could be, but initial support was added in https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=ce295afb6dbd021d0375270bf2b4becacb9ef4db
[10:46] <seb128> which is in our codebase
[10:46] <seb128> so I guess it's mostly bugfixes
[10:46] <seb128> but I don't have a such keyboard either
[10:46] <seb128> so I can't test
[10:49] * Trevinho would backport the whole thing :P
[10:50] <seb128> go for it
[10:50] <seb128> we didn't hold on backporting for any special reason
[10:50] <seb128> it's just that nobody put the work to do it
[10:51] <seb128> also keep in mind that sometime the g-s-d changes imply g-c-c matchups and we can't update the frontend as easily since they completly changed the design/look compared to what we have
[10:51] <willcooke> davmor2, Hrm. Sounds to me like we'd need to get that firmware included in the linux-firmware package.
[10:52] <davmor2> willcooke: it works perfectly once it is in place :)
[10:52] <davmor2> willcooke: I'll file a bug for it then
[10:53] <willcooke> da thanks
[10:53] <willcooke> davmor2, TheMuso
[10:53] <willcooke> argh
[10:53] <willcooke> davmor2, thanks
[10:53] <davmor2> tab doesn't work on words honest :)
[10:54] <willcooke> :) try telling my fingers that
[12:10] <davmor2> willcooke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1516580
[12:10] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1516580 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth firmware for dell xps 13" [High,New]
[12:10] <willcooke> thx davmor2
[12:16] <Trevinho> hikiko: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/scale-multimonitor-workarea/+merge/277561 ?
[12:18] <hikiko> Trevinho: sure in a while
[12:23] <hikiko> Trevinho, approved :D
[13:02] <desrt> hello desktop world
[13:06] <hikiko> Hello desrt
[13:11] <desrt> happy monday, hikiko
[13:12] <hikiko> Happy Monday desrt
[13:12] * desrt looks at g+ page for event she is planning tomorrow
[13:12] <desrt> 5 'yes', 11 'maybe'
[13:12] <desrt> gonna be fun making the restaurant reservation based on that...
[13:14] <hikiko> What's tomorrow ?
[13:14] <desrt> i'd prefer not to discuss it. it's a secret meeting.
[13:15] <desrt> but here's a hint: it's something blue
[13:15] <larsu> she said, after bringing it up
[13:15] <larsu> morning desrt
[13:15] <desrt> morning :D
[14:06] <andyrock> "morning"
[14:06] <andyrock> :D
[14:06] <qengho> Oh Monday, thoust vex me.
[14:07] <larsu> hi andyrock and qengho
[14:35] <willcooke> hey qengho andyrock
[14:36] <willcooke> qengho, the icon issues have gone away. But the "opening a URL from xchat" issue remains. I will do more testing though to make sure it's not me
[14:39] <qengho> willcooke: Hrm. Thanks.
[15:18] <willcooke> popping out to collect my car from the garage - bbiab
[15:23] <attente> any way to suppress -Werror=unused-parameter when packaging a qmake project?
[15:24] <larsu> attente: add -Wnounused-parameter to CFLAGS?
[15:24] <larsu> QMAKE_CXXFLAGS even :(
[15:25] <larsu> bah, QMAKE_CFLAGS
[15:26] <qengho> willcooke: "2015-09-26 Per Olofsson <[email protected]> * xdg-mime: Check ~/.config/mimeapps.list instead of ~/.[local/share]/applications/mimeapps.list when looking for default application." Well! Okay then. Found your xchat/firefox bug.
[15:26] <attente> larsu: ah, ok, i'll try those, thanks
[15:27] <larsu> attente: you can also disable them with a pragma, but that's ugly I think
[15:28] <attente> larsu: yeah. it's coming from generated code (gdbus-codegen). i might try to fix that upstream
[15:39] <willcooke> qengho, \o/
[16:11] <larsu> Laney: I dug a bit deeper on the black flicker issue this afternoon. We need the revert, but slightly amended to also work for windows with client side decorations (this was the difference that caused me to see the bug in 3.16.0 as well)
[16:11] <larsu> Laney: but I doubt this will be accepted upstream - the function is deprecated because the frame sync protocol seems to be considered a dependency of gtk now
[16:15] <Laney> larsu: all of these https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/log/?h=gtk-3-18&qt=grep&q=don't+call+gtk_style_context ?
[16:16] <larsu> Laney: I'm unsure, but the flickering should only be a problem on top-level windows
[16:16] <Laney> worth talking to cosimoc?
[16:16] <larsu> have you noticed any problems with the other widgets?
[16:17] <larsu> not unless we have a prolem
[16:17] <larsu> *problem
[16:17] <larsu> Trevinho: have you ever thought about implementing that frame sync thing in compiz? I guess it's quite hard because it touches lots of things?
[16:18] <Laney> I mean, presumably this commit was done for some reason
[16:18] <Laney> not that the commit message is clear
[16:18] <larsu> which commit?
[16:19] <Laney> the one you want to revert
[16:19] <larsu> yes, the function is deprecated
[16:19] <larsu> widgets are supposed to draw their own background
[16:20] <larsu> which happens too late on compiz, because it doesn't wait for the signal from gtk that the frame is done
[16:20] <larsu> calling set_background() sets the background color of the x window
[16:21] <larsu> so we see an incomplete frame, but because the color is the same as the background color, it's not as noticable
[16:24] <Laney> I see
[16:24] <Laney> thanks for the info
[16:24] <larsu> did you already upload the revert?
[16:24] <Laney> want to hear from Trevinho about the frame sync stuff, that would be nicer depending on how bad it would be to do
[16:24] <Laney> no
[16:24] <Laney> I'm not that fast anyway /o\
[16:25] <larsu> that's good - I'll propose a patch in a bit that makes it work for csd windows as well
[16:26] <Laney> not going to be for today at any rate
[16:26] <Laney> but still want to hear about fixing it properly
[16:26] <larsu> ya, of course
[16:27] <Laney> thanks for the investigation!
[16:27] <larsu> :)
[16:37] <larsu> Laney: proposed at https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gtk/remove-black-flicker/+merge/277595
[16:40] <Trevinho> larsu: mh, sorry I was otp...
[16:50] <Trevinho> larsu: I saw it at the time I was looking at the mir gdk backend, but I didn't know it was in X as well
[17:10] <larsu> Trevinho: it has been for a couple of years :)
[17:40] <seb128> back!
[17:48] <willcooke> calling it a day
[17:48] <willcooke> g'night all
[21:07] * qengho afk.
[23:40] <n8s> hi all
[23:40] <n8s> this may be tricky... but i have to ask
[23:41] <n8s> i have a laptop fine-tuned with all the apps and settings to my liking. it has been a pita to set it up. Now im ready to make the move on my desktop to ubuntu and say byebye to windows 10, ¿is there any way to "clone" the settings and installed packages automagically?
[23:44] <sarnold> n8s: dpkg --get-selections and --set-selections may be able to do the packages for you, though actually getting apt to follow those directions may be more work; I'm just content to apt-get install the packages I need when I need them, though, to avoid installing and updating software I don't use often..
[23:45] <sarnold> n8s: you can copy your home directory over, that ought to be a good starting point for most user-facing programs; i'd cherry pick files from /etc/ as needed for the system-wide configurations
[23:45] <sarnold> n8s: many people store their /etc and dotfiles in git or something similar, see etckeeper for a quick intro there
[23:45] <n8s> thank for pointing me that, sounds interesting
[23:46] <n8s> however if there is nothing that "migrates" it automatically, i guess i will do what you said first and make it work as i need it
[23:48] <n8s> howewer... i find surprising that ubuntu lacks an utility for doing this. i understand that this can be perfectly done with CLI+patience combo, but some user friendly solution would be awe
[23:49] <n8s> anyway, thanks a lot sarnold
[23:49] <sarnold> n8s: if you're installing dozens to thousands of machines, there's options that are probably worth exploring :)
[23:50] <sarnold> n8s: but for two systems, there's not much pre-built
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[10:08] <akxwi_dave> Howdo all..
[11:26] <knome> good day
[11:34] <akxwi_dave> morning
[12:58] <flocculant> good day
[12:59] <knome> hullo flocculant
[12:59] <flocculant> hi knome :)
[13:04] <flocculant> knome: how much use would it be for team to know when test calls are going out? I can see it being helpful for people who fix and upload stuff
[13:04] <knome> guess it could be useful to have some kind of communication
[13:04] <knome> so that developers would have time to fix bugs they intend to before testing
[13:04] <flocculant> I enabled the calendar output on the qa trello board this morning so I get that in tbird - but perhaps we could add it to the team calendar
[13:04] <knome> or do syncs or whatever
[13:05] <knome> otoh, i don't know if that would make much of a difference - if they don't have time, they don't
[13:05] <knome> yeah, we can do that
[13:05] <knome> i just got to figure out how then...
[13:05] <flocculant> though trello's not specific on what app is being tested
[13:05] <knome> yeah
[13:06] <flocculant> https://trello.com/calendar/55b334f9c60b8b8c3d8238ce/52a3757d214733820a0023ea/887155a22b2671cc23503acf0ad18dca.ics
[13:06] <knome> let's see...
[13:06] <flocculant> is the iCal feed
[13:15] <knome> flocculant, should show up in the tracker now :)
[13:15] <flocculant> knome: thank you :)
[13:16] <knome> np
[13:16] <knome> happy with the color?
[13:16] <flocculant> yea
[13:16] <knome> good
[13:16] <flocculant> just glad it's not red :p
[13:16] <knome> :D
[13:17] <flocculant> knome: did you catch any of the rambling discussion krytarik and I got into the other day about the cont docs?
[13:17] <flocculant> which can in fact be boiled down to 1 statement and 1 question :D
[13:18] <knome> i looked at it briefly but haven't read it throughout
[13:18] <flocculant> well then simply :)
[13:19] <flocculant> A team lead should get sign-off/review opportunity on a page that concerns them.
[13:19] <knome> yep
[13:19] <flocculant> Any reason why these pages need to have Xubuntu all over them?
[13:19] <flocculant> :)
[13:19] * knome shrugs
[13:19] <knome> part of that is that the content is mostly copied from other sources
[13:19] <flocculant> probably the qa ones are fullest - mostly copied from elsewhere :)
[13:19] <flocculant> yea :)
[13:20] <knome> so no readon
[13:20] <knome> *reason
[13:20] <knome> and for the review part
[13:20] <knome> the MP review system can be used for other kind of reviews than technical
[13:20] <flocculant> yea
[13:20] <knome> so just push it in through an MP unless you have talked with the appropriate team lead
[13:21] <flocculant> yep
[13:21] <knome> so far i've just pushed things in without asking, because as said, it's just copies from other sources
[13:21] <flocculant> yea I know
[13:21] <flocculant> just looking ahead some
[13:21] <knome> yep
[13:21] <knome> same thing as alwyas
[13:21] <flocculant> :)
[13:21] <knome> sigh, always*
[13:22] <flocculant> heh
[13:22] <knome> team leads lead their team, no soloing
[13:22] <flocculant> I wouldn't for instance notice an MP there unless I had done it myself
[13:22] <knome> of course not, since you aren't a reviewer
[13:23] <flocculant> so perhaps team lead added as reviewer of changes concerning them
[13:23] <flocculant> anyway - as always it'll come out in the wash :)
[13:23] <knome> our team is so small that i don't think this is even a sensible discusson in some sense, but if i see a change that concerns QA that i know that isn't ran through you, be sure i'll poke you
[13:24] <knome> and i expect slickyma1ter to do the exact same thing
[13:24] <flocculant> yep that works of course
[13:24] <knome> if a non-team member pushes an MP, then it's weird enough anyway
[13:24] <flocculant> yea
[13:24] <flocculant> I agree the team is small and we all talk to each other anyway
[13:26] <flocculant> btw - I subscribed to that fop bug - not likely to be too much of an issue now for anyone no pdf's, but if it's still dying in 3 months
[13:27] <knome> the new fop is landing sooner or later
[13:27] <knome> it's in proposed and FTBFS, but it's on its way
[13:27] <knome> once the versions match, the pdfs will build again
[13:28] <flocculant> yea I know
[13:28] <knome> but yeah, good to track it
[13:28] <knome> the bug can be even added to our blueprints
[13:28] <flocculant> was just thinking that
[13:29] <flocculant> then I can stop marking the mail unread :p
[13:29] <knome> yup :P
[13:29] <flocculant> done :)
[13:30] <flocculant> then undone and redone somewhere else :)
[13:31] <knome> heh
[13:31] <flocculant> added it to the doc bp rather than the bug one
[13:31] <knome> yes, probably appropriate that way
[13:31] <knome> but ultimately - who cares ;)
[13:31] <flocculant> yep
[13:32] <knome> it's true what simon said - i've used LP less now that we have the tracker
[13:32] <flocculant> same
[13:32] <knome> the old tracker couldn't exactly do that
[13:32] <flocculant> one bookmark instead of 7 or 8 for a start :)
[13:32] <knome> there were still situations when it was easier to look at LP
[13:32] <knome> heh, yeah
[13:33] <knome> i wouldn't even need a bookmark
[13:33] <flocculant> well me neither now - tr in the url bar will bring it up first :)
[13:35] <knome> location bar -> tr -> most used link
[13:35] <flocculant> that's what I meant :)
[13:35] <knome> see #xubuntu-offtopic and my lag whine
[13:35] <knome> :P
[13:47] <flocculant> they'll show up eventually with dates
[14:25] <flocculant> welcome back akxwi_dave :)
[14:35] <akxwi_dave> afternoon flocculant
[14:36] <akxwi_dave> well thats another stupid windows server that went stupid due to an update...
[14:36] <flocculant> ooops
[14:39] <akxwi_dave> tell me.. luckily they are all virtual servers and snapshots.. so didn't take too long to sort out.
[14:39] <flocculant> :)
[14:42] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: I replied
[14:46] <akxwi_dave> cheers flocculant
[14:46] <akxwi_dave> just about to send the email to the dev list
[14:47] <flocculant> excellent :)
[14:48] <akxwi_dave> and sent :-)
[14:50] <flocculant> cool - did the poll thing :)
[14:51] <akxwi_dave> cheers.. though i'd better answer it as well
[14:52] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: maybe add that people can join the channel easily via the tracker IRC tab
[14:54] <flocculant> we've had 9 people join the testers lp group this cycle
[14:57] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: well that's good we can both be there any time :p
[15:01] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: not sure if I said, but I added you to the QA trello thing - so you can do whatever there
[15:02] <akxwi_dave> thx, thats good 9 new testers...
[15:16] <akxwi_dave> What is it with Windows Servers today.. The SQL servers just thrown a wobbly, seriously some one needs to write a Legal Practice Management System for Linux.
[15:28] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: I forwarded the session mail to users
[15:30] <akxwi_dave> thx
[15:43] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: not sure about mailing the testers LP page about how to test :)
[15:48] <akxwi_dave> ;-)
[16:20] <akxwi_dave> thx
[16:23] <SwissBot> feed xubuntu-docs had 4 updates, showing the latest 3
[16:24] <flocculant> wut?
[16:24] <flocculant> why does that keep repeating old stuff ... unless because I use the same branch name *shrug*
[16:25] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: nice one from zleap :)
[16:36] <akxwi_dave> time to go.. cya all later
[16:37] <flocculant> cya :)
[20:10] <dkessel> i think i forgot to thank bluesabre for enabling gtk3 builds of mousepad in the ppa; thank you, bluesabre :)
[20:10] <dkessel> it enabled me to get started on an autopilot. now i only have to fight bugs and missing features in the testing tools to get the manual test implemented as an automatic one...
[20:47] <flocculant> dkessel: that's the first positive thing I've heard about our apps :)
[21:09] <knome> well i can tell a lot of positive things about our apps
[21:09] <knome> negative too, though..
[21:10] <flocculant> I can tell lots of negative in relation to autotesting - nice to see something positive
[21:17] <knome> ;)
[22:13] <ochosi> late evening all
[22:21] <ochosi> what's new?
[22:22] <knome> everything that is not old
[22:22] <knome> (ta-dahhhh!)
[23:57] <bluesabre> hey everyone
[23:57] <bluesabre> dkessel: np
[23:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: My KY weirdo!
[23:57] <bluesabre> :D
[23:57] <knome> hullo bluesabre
[23:58] <bluesabre> hey Unit193, knome
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-nl
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[13:06] <freaker> hej
[19:33] <Timo> Er komen weer verkiezingen voor de Ubuntu-NL gemeenschapsraad aan! Indien je nog geen stemrecht hebt, kun je dat deze maand aanvragen: https://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/index.php?topic=95367
[19:34] <OerHeks> Joepie
[19:34] <OerHeks> er was ook een verkiezing voor de CC, heb ik net gemist.
[20:25] <gvl> ik probeer pst bestanden om te zetten naar vcf met readpst maar krijg foutmelding "cannot stat mbox: no such file of directory. Ik volgde de gebruiksaanwijzing op de website. Wat doe ik verkeerd?
[20:39] <OerHeks> gvl, welke aanwijzing url?
[20:41] <OerHeks> http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/OutlookPstFileInUbuntu ?
[20:45] <gvl> ik gaf het commando "mv mbox contacts.vcf" ; ik zie net dat de bestanden al een vcard extensie hebben. ze worden alleen niet geimporteerd in thunderbird
[20:46] <gvl> ja, die url bedoel ik, oerheks
[20:46] <InnerCode> Goedeavond, iemand ervaring met het bouwen van HTML5 apps voor ubuntu touch?
[20:48] <OerHeks> InnerCode, ik volg het verhaal wel in #ubuntu-touch , maar heb zelf nog geen bq4.5 ofzo..
[20:48] <OerHeks> gvl, het omzetten blijft een issue, verschillen in outlook versies ..
[20:48] <gvl> outlook 2007
[20:49] <OerHeks> ik meen dat omzettin in outlook zelf, goed moet gebeuren, als je daar een ander formaat kiest, heb je meer kans.
[20:49] <gvl> ga het proberen
[20:49] <InnerCode> OerHeks: Ik loop tegen dit (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1477580) probleem aan en weet niet hoe ik het moet fixen. Heb net zelfs een volledige nieuwe installatie in een vm gemaakt. Same issue. :(
[20:51] <OerHeks> gvl ""cannot stat mbox: no such file of directory. " kan betekenen dat je niet in die folder zit, of hij is remote/extern, of je gebruikt een optie verkeerd. dan is die manual verkeerd :-(
[20:57] <OerHeks> apparmor, Ubuntu CSS and Ubuntu JavaScript and the renderengine .. they say that should be fixed
[20:58] <OerHeks> Nee InnerCode ik weet zo ook niet wat je er aan kan doen, repost in #ubuntu-touch ?
[20:59] <InnerCode> OerHeks: al een aantal keer gedaan maar ze komen er ook niet uit/
[20:59] <InnerCode> Wachten maar tot er een fix via een update komt oid
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[18:20] <wxl> hey folks
[18:20] <cmaloney> hello
[18:20] <wxl> just the cat i wanted to see cmaloney
[18:20] <wxl> cmaloney: you know you guys are up for re-verification at the end of the month?
[18:21] <cmaloney> Yes
[18:21] <wxl> cmaloney: are you planning on going for it? anything else the lococouncil can do to help?
[18:21] <cmaloney> And last time around we were encouraged to be reverified
[18:22] <cmaloney> and frankly I don't feel we're active enough for verification
[18:22] <wxl> i think that sustained effort of any kind if likely sufficient
[18:23] <wxl> even if all you do is irc meetings or ubuntu hours
[18:23] <cmaloney> We'll we've sustained a status quo of not doing a whole lot other than sitting in IRC> :)
[18:23] <cmaloney> so if that counts, then woo woo
[18:23] <wxl> heheheh
[18:24] <wxl> well, ok. i'll just let you guys expire then :(
[18:24] <wxl> however, as i said, if there's anything the lococouncil can do for you, please let me know
[18:24] <cmaloney> Will do
[18:24] <cmaloney> Thanks!
[18:25] <wxl> np
[18:25] <wxl> have a great day!
[18:25] <cmaloney> you too
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:48] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:08] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.516686
| 2015-11-16T00:00:00 |
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"astroo-"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[00:33] <Unit193> aedend: Having fun? :P
[02:22] <minasota> Unit193: ha, maybe... trying to figure out why I use znc when I can jist run screen/weechat on my server
[06:35] <cyberanger> hey minasota
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.517413
| 2015-11-16T00:00:00 |
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"Unit193",
"cyberanger",
"minasota"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-tn"
}
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-ie
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[09:35] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:35] <zergless_> o/
[09:36] <czajkowski> zergless: ello
[09:36] <czajkowski> zergless: best way to get out to DCU on Tuesday ?
[09:36] <czajkowski> I'll be coming from um......... smithfield
[09:37] <zergless> from smithfield I would get the...
[09:38] <zergless> If you get the luas to oconnel street you can get the 44 which drops you inside DCU
[09:38] <czajkowski> great where at o'connell st?
[09:40] <zergless> Itsstop number 278
[09:40] <zergless> up near
[09:40] <zergless> eh
[09:41] <zergless> http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/RTPI/Sources-of-Real-Time-Information/?searchtype=map&searchquery=%2853.351628,-6.261237,278%29
[09:41] <zergless> :)
[09:48] <czajkowski> perfect thank you
[09:48] <zergless> I think thats the quickest apart from a taxi
[11:26] <zergless> czajkowski: Ive just been reminded th3 44 doent come that often so keep an eye out for it
[11:26] <zergless> the 9 or the 4 are more frequent and leave you just outside DCU
[11:39] <czajkowski> ok and I can find that on ocnnell st also
[11:39] <zergless> Yep
[11:39] <czajkowski> ohh o'connell st has a supermacs!
[11:39] <zergless> same stop irrc
[11:39] <czajkowski> garlic chips how I've missed thee!
[11:39] <czajkowski> :D
[11:40] <zergless> the 9 and 4 are one stop before it :)
[11:40] <zergless> do they not have garlic chips in the uk? O.o
[11:41] <zergless> yeah stop 281 is the 9 and the 4 which is just before it
[11:41] <czajkowski> not the same sauce
[11:41] <zergless> ah
[11:42] <zergless> :)
[14:39] <czajkowski> zergless: can you let people know about http://www.meetup.com/Couchbase-Dublin/events/226230617/
[14:43] <zergless> sure thing!
[14:43] <czajkowski> thanks
[14:44] <czajkowski> bus from Nassau Street to bring people to and from event
[14:45] <zergless> oh cool!
[14:45] <zergless> targeted at anyone in particular?
[14:46] <czajkowski> developers
[14:46] <czajkowski> interested in hearing how people use new technology
[14:46] <zergless> Ill pass it on to members and friends :)
[14:47] <czajkowski> thanks
[14:47] <czajkowski> tdr112: same for you, open to all to come along
[14:47] <czajkowski> maybe TOG folks might be interested
[14:53] <ebel> developers developers developers developers
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.521249
| 2015-11-16T00:00:00 |
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"czajkowski",
"ebel",
"zergless",
"zergless_"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ie"
}
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-ir
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[06:37] <ma3x> درود
[06:37] <ma3x> لینکهای ubuntu FAQ http://wiki.ubuntu.ir/FAQ و new@IRC? RTFM: http://wiki.ubuntu.ir/IrcBehavior خرابه
[08:49] <kambiz_> hi guys
[08:50] <kambiz_> mikham goshi huawei ro driver hasho nasb konam ro ubuntu
[08:50] <kambiz_> rahnami mikonid plz 4
[08:50] <kambiz_> ؟
[08:51] <ma3x> salam
[08:51] <ma3x> driver lazem nadare
[14:21] <mhp> سلام
[14:21] <ma3x> salam
[14:22] <mhp> من کی دی پلاسمای دبیان را نصب کردم ولی پسوردشو بلد تیستم
[14:22] <ma3x> nasb kardi?
[14:22] <ma3x> ya live ejra kardi?
[14:23] <mhp> اره ولی اینترنتو زیر رو کردن حلا پسوردشو بلد نیستم اقایی کن پسوردشو برام گیر بیار
[14:23] <CtrlC> چی آره؟ سوال که بله و خیری نبود.
[14:24] <mhp> من الان جلوی رومه
[14:24] <ma3x> bbein
[14:24] <ma3x> age nasb kardi
[14:24] <ma3x> moghe nasb ke user misazi
[14:24] <ma3x> password ham barash misazi
[14:24] <ma3x> age live boot kardi
[14:24] <ma3x> ye dastane dg i e
[14:24] <mhp> ببین
[14:25] <mhp> من کالی لینوکس نصب کردم
[14:25] <mhp> بعد
[14:25] <ma3x> khob kali ro kasi nasb nemikone
[14:25] <mhp> صفحه گرافیکی گنوم با ترمینال حذف شد
[14:25] <ma3x> man kolan ba in distro haye *** kar nakardam
[14:25] <CtrlC> کالی! فرار کنید.
[14:25] <ma3x> etelaati ham nadaram
[14:26] <mhp> نه نه
[14:26] <mhp> بزار اول داستانمو بشنو
[14:26] <mhp> من گنومو حذفکردم دیگه رفتم تو رابط متنی بعد
[14:27] <mhp> Kde plasma desktop دبیان رو نصب کردم بعد
[14:28] <mhp> اومد بالا از من پسورد خواست موقع نصب از من نه یوزر گرفت نه پسورد
[14:28] <mhp> من فقط اسم رمز لعنتی دبیانو میخوام همین
[14:28] <mhp> جایزتم محفوضه
[14:28] <CtrlC> اسم رمزی نداره. تنها چیزی که داره اونیه که موقع نصب وارد کردی.
[14:29] <CtrlC> جایزه؟:|
[14:29] <mhp> اره
[14:29] <mhp> اموزش هک
[14:29] <CtrlC> :|
[14:29] <mhp> من بیام تو سیستم
[14:30] <mhp> اموزشت میدم طوریکه دانشگها رو هک کنی
[14:30] <mhp> و ار کاری که بخوای
[14:30] <mhp> جوابت چیه
[14:31] <CtrlC> ='))
[14:31] <mhp> من بیام تو سیستم ایدیتو بدست میارمو میام تو کامپیترتو اماده میکنم
[14:31] <CtrlC> ma3x: بیا مشکلشو حل کن و صاحب قدرت بی پایان شو.
[14:32] <mhp> من هر کاری کردم حداقل پنج ساله کارم هک کردنه ولی الان به بد مشکلی خوردم
[14:33] <mhp> البته نه غیر قانونی
[14:33] <mhp> قانونی با پلیس فتا ولی ناشناس موندن طوریکه هیچ کس نمیدونه من کیم
[14:34] <mhp> جوابت چیه
[14:35] <mhp> رو خط بمونم یا نه
[14:37] <CtrlC> قطع شدم. کار تو که نبود؟ mhp :-D
[14:37] <mhp> نه
[14:37] <mhp> حالا جوابتو بگو
[14:38] <mhp> دختر که نیستی هستی
[14:39] <CtrlC> 5.115.39.255 فعلا صبر کن دارم به سیستمت وصل میشم.
[14:39] <mhp> باشه
[14:40] <CtrlC> اونم آی پی ته.
[14:42] <mhp_> سلام
[14:43] <mhp_> اونجایی
[14:43] <CtrlC> علیک السلام. چرا قطع و وصل کردی؟
[14:44] <mhp_> کارت خودت بود
[14:44] <CtrlC> از کجا فهمیدی؟
[14:44] <mhp_> الان مثلا میخواستی بگی منم از هک یه چیزایی بلدم
[14:44] <CtrlC> اندروید داری؟
[14:45] <mhp_> اره
[14:45] <CtrlC> خیلی خوبه.:-)
[14:45] <mhp_> جوابتو ندادی
[14:46] <CtrlC> نه من معامله نمیکنم. :-D
[14:46] <mhp_> خیلی خوبه
[14:47] <CtrlC> خدا رو شکر عکسای تلگرامتو نزدی تو گالری!
[14:47] <mhp_> میدونی یه حقیقتی که درباره من وجود داره اینه که من هم وجود دارم هم ندارم
[14:48] <CtrlC> بعضیا میزنن تو گالری اعصاب نمیمونه برای آدم.
[14:48] <CtrlC> whoa!
[14:48] <mhp_> خوب تو تلگرامم بودی
[14:49] <CtrlC> برو بچه جان.به جا این کارا به زندگیت برس.
[14:49] <CtrlC> از آشیانه هم بکش بیرون.
[14:49] <CtrlC> چیزی یاد نمیگیری و وقتتو تلف میکنی.
[14:49] <mhp_> برو دعا کن کامیوتر دیگه ایی ندارم وگرنه هاردو مادربردتو یه جا میسوزوندم
[14:50] <CtrlC> الان میرم دو رکعت نماز شکر میخونم. مرسی.
[14:50] <mhp_> به محض وصل شدن سیستمتو میترکونم
[14:51] <CtrlC> =))
[18:46] <Azitrex> CtrlC, naterekidi hanuz ? :D
[18:52] <CtrlC> Azitrex: کلی دعا کردم فعلا که زندم. :))
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.535934
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"CtrlC",
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"mhp",
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-se
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[05:51] <Hund> Lustigt folk det finns.
[10:30] <marsupapu> Morgon.
[10:31] <x86_64> Hund, merley? :3
[11:25] <Slartibart> Vet inte vart man borde gå med en sån här fråga.. Jag håller på att skriva C-kod för att processa data från en XML-fil, tagg för tagg. Det jobbiga är att filen är skapligt stor, knappt 1Gb, så vanliga enkla metoder som läser in hela filen direkt och suger ut datat fungerar inte så bra. Om XML-trädet dessutom är komplext(gissa om det är det?) så blir det rätt oöversiktligt, och många upprepningar
[11:26] <Slartibart> av kod. Så jag tänkte att det kanske finns nån grafisk editor för det här, som kunde få mig att tänka andra tankar, typ. Nån som känner till nåt sånt? UML-editor med C-kod undertill?
[11:51] <Amoz> Slartibart, testa stackexchange, detta har ju inget med Ubuntu att göra vad jag kan se.
[12:38] <Hund> £
[12:38] <Hund> x86_64: Yo
[12:43] <x86_64> hej Hund
[12:43] <x86_64> Läget
[12:45] <Hund> Bara bra.
[12:45] <Hund> Hur står det till själv?
[12:46] <x86_64> Bra med.
[12:55] <Hund> Utmärkt.
[12:55] <Hund> Vad händer denna fredag då?
[12:55] <x86_64> Utmärkt???
[12:55] <x86_64> Ahaha!
[12:55] <x86_64> "Excellent" :p
[12:56] <x86_64> Hund, Sällan. :3
[12:56] <x86_64> Bara jobar. :)
[12:57] <Hund> :D
[13:01] <x86_64> Hund, Dig själv?
[13:04] <Hund> Samma.
[13:04] <Hund> Ordnar sen lunch.
[13:09] <x86_64> Hund, Är du en operator här?
[13:13] <Hund> Nä
[13:19] <x86_64> i see.
[13:19] * x86_64 kramar Hund
[13:21] <Hund> Haha
[13:21] <Hund> Är det synd om mig? :D
[13:23] <x86_64> eh?
[13:39] <x86_64> Hund, I don't know. :p
[14:34] <Hund> :D
[14:44] <leif_nys> Har forumet ubuntu-se.org gått ur tiden?
[14:51] <gusnan> leif_nys: Nja, info finns här: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-se/2015-November/006356.html
[14:52] <gusnan> hmm, du kanske redan hade den infon.
[14:53] <leif_nys> ja, det hade jag.. . :) Men tänkte att någon kanske kände till hur det går, eller gick. :)
[14:54] <gusnan> leif_nys: Ah - nä, jag har inte mer information än så tyvärr.
[14:54] <leif_nys> Oki. Tack ändå.. Det blir till att vänta och se. Gissar jag.
[16:53] <Hund> Men
[16:53] <Hund> Fortfarande nere och ingen har pekat om den till en tillfällig sida?
[16:53] <Hund> Den har väl varit nere en vecka eller så nu?
[16:57] <x86_64> Vad är nere?
[16:57] <Hund> www.ubuntu-se.org
[16:58] <x86_64> ah
[16:58] <x86_64> Ja, det är nere.
[16:58] <x86_64> Man kan se på http://www.isup.me/
[17:00] <x86_64> Vad sägs om http://www.ubuntu.se
[17:00] <x86_64> ?
[17:03] <Hund> Vad finns det att säga? :P
[17:04] <Hund> Två sidor, två eldsjälar och två visioner. :)
[17:12] <x86_64> meh
[17:13] <x86_64> nvm :p
[17:13] <x86_64> kan jag pm dej?
[17:13] <x86_64> Hund,
[17:13] <Hund> Absolut.
[17:41] <ernstp> n
[17:44] <x86_64> o
[20:10] <Hund> p
[20:19] <MrLost> e
[20:39] <marsupapu> Jaså :D
[22:55] <Hund> Wee
[22:55] <Hund> Haha
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.549314
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"marsupapu",
"x86_64"
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[02:51] <philipballew> nhaines, around for a pm?
[16:43] <SteevB> hey phil whatsup!
[18:18] <nhaines> Generic reminder that if someone wants to PM me, they either should simply do so or if I don't respond to a ping they should probably just email me.
[21:19] <nhandler> About to submit my first talk proposal for a conference. Any tips?
[21:45] <akk> Think about what you look for when you're at a conference -- what sort of talk descriptions make you want to go to that talk.
[21:46] <akk> Mention fun things you might talk about, or interesting things the attendee might learn.
[22:17] <nhandler> Thanks a lot, akk. I'll definitely keep those tips in mind when writing my proposal.
[22:19] <akk> Good luck, nhandler!
[22:20] <nhandler> :D
[23:54] <nhaines> nhandler: akk had great advice. It's hard to add anything to it. See if you can get your personality to peek through the description.
[23:55] <nhandler> nhaines: This proposal requires me to submit a short video with it, so that should make that part easier
[23:57] <nhaines> There you go!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.552727
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"SteevB",
"akk",
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-ru
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[00:07] <andrex> шмутра
[10:06] <VsyachePuz> в убунте в unity - главное меню видно постоянно или оно вверх уезжает?
[10:07] <VsyachePuz> поискал в интернете скриншоты - вроде оно висит постоянно
[10:07] <andrex> постоянно оно просто интегрируется в окно если оно на весь экран
[10:08] <VsyachePuz> следующий вопрос - это меню оно на самом деле gnome-panel ?
[10:08] <JohnDoe_71Rus> он юнити кусок
[10:08] <VsyachePuz> я спрашиваю к тому, что на gnome-panel можно добавлять Panel Applet-ы
[10:08] <VsyachePuz> Я знаю, что в Unity своершенно замечательные Applications Indicators
[10:09] <VsyachePuz> Но меня интересует возможность влепить туда длинный прогресс-бар
[19:26] <llorephie> >_>
[19:33] <tagezi> (О)(о_о)(О)
[19:35] <Sergey_IT> победил, у тебя уши больше )
[19:37] <tagezi> чебураторы всегда всех побеждают )
[19:40] <Sergey_IT> надо дистр Чебурашкой назвать
[19:41] <Sergey_IT> а антивирус Геной
[19:55] <VsyachePuz> Sergey_IT: http://cheburunix.github.io/about/
[20:36] <Sergey_IT> не, Чебурашникс надо
[20:52] <VsyachePuz> Sergey_IT: поймут как "пепел чебурана" CheburAshNix
[20:55] <Sergey_IT> а что мы думаем про xerus?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.558978
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"JohnDoe_71Rus",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
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2015-11-20-#launchpad-dev
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[13:50] <cjwatson> wgrant: Do you know if anyone's ever looked at making it easier to rename properties in Storm? I'm considering writing a thing where you could say e.g. class Person: displayname = RenamedProperty("display_name"), with a __get__ method such that both Person.displayname and Person.display_name would DTRT in Storm queries
[13:51] <cjwatson> wgrant: It ought to be possible to give it a .setter like the one on the stdlib's property(), so that we could have a renamed property with a custom setter - useful for the Person.name work
[13:52] <cjwatson> Though in the latter case we kind of don't really want to rename it in an ideal world, it would be better to simply be able to set custom setters on storm properties
[14:15] <cjwatson> wgrant: Actually, I suppose you can effectively do custom setters (assuming that they end up storing a value at all) with a validator. So do we actually need to do the Person.name renaming that you were talking about?
[22:36] <wgrant> cjwatson: Hm, did I suggest renaming Person.name?
[22:37] <wgrant> cjwatson: It needs to be significantly reworked due to the fact that it's impossible in some cases and involves API calls in others, but it doesn't obviously need to be renamed.
[22:37] <cjwatson> wgrant: Not renaming as such, but you were talking about putting a setter on it and seeing whether things still work
[22:37] <cjwatson> Which I was initially taking to mean renaming to _name and adding @property name
[22:37] <wgrant> Oh, no.
[22:37] <wgrant> I did that weeks ago with a validator and got it down to 13 broken tests.
[22:38] <cjwatson> Aha
[22:38] <cjwatson> I'd still like to explore easier property renaming, but in that case just not for this particular job
[22:39] <cjwatson> It's very annoying that renaming Person.displayname to Person.display_name entailed going through and hunting for Storm queries
[22:40] <wgrant> It is.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.563559
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"cjwatson",
"wgrant"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/20/%23launchpad-dev.txt",
"channel": "#launchpad-dev"
}
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-il
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[17:49] <blade> help
[17:49] <blade> i need auto start app to ubuntu....
[17:49] <blade> someone?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.564165
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"blade"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/20/%23ubuntu-il.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-il"
}
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-on-air
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[15:54] <G10> help
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.565504
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"G10"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/20/%23ubuntu-on-air.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-on-air"
}
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-it
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[00:00] <cristian_c> niconico: ????
[00:00] <cristian_c> neramarea: non ti porre troppe domande
[00:00] <cristian_c> forse è un bene che sia successo
[00:00] <neramarea> non direi...
[00:00] <cristian_c> anche se ti provoca astinenza dal prendere a martellate il tuo pc
[00:03] <cristian_c> !info ffmpeg
[00:03] <ubot-it> ffmpeg (source: ffmpeg): Tools for transcoding, streaming and playing of multimedia files. In component universe, is optional. Version 7:2.7.2-1build1 (wily), package size 1200 kB, installed size 1813 kB
[00:03] <niconico> cristian_c: ho risposto perchè ero root
[00:03] <neramarea> ehm... avrei comunque necessità di sistemare la cosa...
[00:03] <cristian_c> niconico: e qual'è la risposta?
[00:03] <cristian_c> neramarea: che devi fare?
[00:03] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13355495/
[00:03] <cristian_c> niconico: a parte che esiste sudo per queste cosd
[00:03] <neramarea> poter aggiungere ppa, mi pare ovvio...
[00:04] <cristian_c> niconico: ma l'utilizzo dei privilegi non ti impedisce di acquisire sufficienti informazioni da quel comando
[00:04] <niconico> si ma questo che ti ho mandato non era da root
[00:04] <cristian_c> niconico: mentre l'utilizzo dell'utente root può recare seri danni all'os
[00:04] <cristian_c> niconico: sei loggato come root
[00:04] <cristian_c> e tanto basta
[00:05] <cristian_c> neramarea: li vuoi collezionare tutti?
[00:05] <cristian_c> tipo figur9ne
[00:05] <cristian_c> figurine
[00:06] <neramarea> su, dai... vorrei non aver questo problema, semplicemente...
[00:06] <cristian_c> !ppa | neramarea
[00:06] <ubot-it> neramarea: Un Personal Package Archive (PPA) è in grado di fornire il software alternativo non normalmente disponibile nei repository di Ubuntu offical - Alla ricerca di un PPA? Vedi https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - ATTENZIONE: PPA sono pacchetti di terze parti NON supportati il cui utilizzo è a proprio rischio. Vedi anche !addppa e !ppa-purge
[00:07] <niconico> mollo per stasera .-.
[00:08] <cristian_c> niconico: vedo l'interfaccia wlan in basso, come compiti controlla l'installazione dei pacchetti b43 , e ci si risente
[00:08] <cristian_c> alla prossima
[00:10] <niconico> buonaserata a tutti
[07:35] <ciano> buon giorno ragazzi un aiuto pls non riesco far vedere lo scanner aa simplescan
[07:35] <ciano> stampante epson 3520
[07:36] <ciano> e la stampa funziona bene
[07:36] <ciano> che devo fare? potete aiutarmi?
[08:23] <mariox> Buongiorno, sapete se la scheda nvidea 6200 presenta problemi con i driver nouveau? Grazie
[09:10] <niconico> Buongiorno
[09:16] <davcri> buongiorno :)
[09:24] <niconico> davcri: per caso hai mai avuto problema al wifi?
[09:30] <Carlin0> niconico, hai problemi al wifi ?
[09:30] <niconico> Carlin0: si, ieri ne parlavo con cristian_c
[09:30] <niconico> non sono riuscito ancora a risolverlo
[09:31] <Carlin0> niconico, prova a illustrarlo ... non si sa mai
[09:32] <niconico> ti dico solo che ho una broadcom xD
[09:32] <niconico> mi è sempre funzionata, ieri ho disattivato tramite interruttore, poi alla riaccensione non funzionava
[09:33] <niconico> ho la bcm4312 che ha semre funzionato con il driver proprietario bcmwl
[09:33] <Carlin0> quindi hai già installato i driver relativi alla scheda
[09:33] <niconico> ieri cristian_c mi consigliava b43
[09:33] <niconico> ma è stato inutile per ora
[09:34] <Carlin0> niconico, sei connesso via cavo ora ?
[09:34] <niconico> eh si
[09:34] <neramarea> signori, buondì... cristian mi ha già cazziato, iersera, ma io risottopongo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13362580/ , e questo accade con qualsiasi ppa. premetto che ho già provato a reinstallare ca-certificates...
[09:34] <Carlin0> niconico, sudo apt install pastebinit
[09:34] <ExPBoy> !ppa
[09:34] <neramarea> sta cosa mi sta facendo impazzire...
[09:34] <ubot-it> Un Personal Package Archive (PPA) è in grado di fornire il software alternativo non normalmente disponibile nei repository di Ubuntu offical - Alla ricerca di un PPA? Vedi https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - ATTENZIONE: PPA sono pacchetti di terze parti NON supportati il cui utilizzo è a proprio rischio. Vedi anche !addppa e !ppa-purge
[09:34] <ExPBoy> niente supporto per i ppa
[09:35] <Carlin0> niconico, rfkill list | pastebinit
[09:35] <neramarea> ExPBoy ma io non voglio supporto per un ppa... vorrei capire l'errore...
[09:35] <ExPBoy> l'errore è il ppa
[09:36] <neramarea> questo accade con qualsiasi ppa
[09:36] <krabador> l'errore è non capire che maneggiare ppa fa questo e non porta a ricevere supporto
[09:36] <niconico> Carlin0: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13362612/
[09:36] <niconico> ora è cosi
[09:36] <krabador> specie se reiterato nel tempo
[09:36] <niconico> ma se provo rfkill unblockall non va lo stesso
[09:36] <niconico> riprovo
[09:37] <Carlin0> niconico, metti anche sudo davanti a unblock all
[09:37] <neramarea> mh. va bene. se un'anima buona mi volesse delucidare, mi sposto in chat...
[09:38] <niconico> Carlin0: già fatto, e ora http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13362623/
[09:38] <niconico> wtf?!
[09:38] <krabador> niconico, la digitazione ...
[09:39] <Carlin0> niconico, almeno qualcosa è cambiato : non è + bloccato
[09:40] <niconico> Carlin0, si ma niente wifi
[09:41] <krabador> niconico, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[09:42] <krabador> niconico, iwconfig | pastebinit
[09:42] <Carlin0> niconico, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | pastebinit
[09:42] <Carlin0> l'ha già installato il pastebin
[09:47] <niconico> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13362723/
[09:49] <Carlin0> niconico, dai anche l'altro ...
[09:50] <niconico> scusa http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13362751/
[09:52] <krabador> ifconfig wlan0 on
[09:59] <niconico> krabador, on host sconosciuto
[09:59] <krabador> ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:01] <niconico> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13362842/
[10:01] <niconico> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13362854/
[10:01] <niconico> l'ultimo è
[10:01] <krabador> niconico, il primo non serviva
[10:02] <niconico> krabador, lo so ho sbagliato ti ho detto
[10:02] <krabador> oh calma
[10:03] <krabador> di nuovo sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | pastebinit
[10:04] <niconico> calma? xD http://paste.ubuntu.com/13362891/
[10:05] <krabador> niconico, funziona adesso.
[10:05] <niconico> forse dovrei riavviare?
[10:07] <krabador> sta già funzionando adesso
[10:07] <krabador> se vuoi riavviare, fai pure
[10:08] <niconico> krabador, ma non funziona, in basso a destra c'è la scritta "wi-fi disabilitata", perciò ti domando di riavviare
[10:08] <krabador> "in basso"
[10:08] <krabador> di che sistema?
[10:09] <niconico> krabador, lubuntu
[10:09] <krabador> niconico, senti. il sistema rileva "Alice-48231453"
[10:09] <krabador> sta funzionando
[10:09] <krabador> il task probabilmente non è sincronico
[10:09] <krabador> riavvia
[10:09] <niconico> ecco, riavvio
[10:12] <niconico> krabador, niente
[10:12] <krabador> niconico, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | pastebinit
[10:14] <niconico> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13362984/
[10:14] <niconico> krabador, non me l'ha fatto
[10:15] <krabador> niconico, ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:15] <krabador> niconico, sudo
[10:15] <pippy95> Ciao a tutti :) volevo chiedere un aiuto per installare ubuntu
[10:15] <krabador> per il comando di prima
[10:16] <krabador> niconico, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | pastebinit
[10:16] <krabador> pippy95, chiedi
[10:16] <niconico> krabador, quale di questi?
[10:16] <niconico> ah capito
[10:17] <ciano> mi vedere signori?
[10:17] <niconico> krabador, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13363025/
[10:17] <pippy95> volevo installarlo su un lenono z50-70
[10:17] <pippy95> è possibile?
[10:18] <krabador> niconico, rfkill list | pastebinit
[10:18] <krabador> pippy95, si
[10:18] <krabador> ciano, si
[10:18] <niconico> krabador, il comando mi da lo stesso output anche con sudo
[10:18] <ciano> non riesce vedere lo scanner epson 3520 e ho gia provato installare i driver
[10:19] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363049/
[10:19] <niconico> di nuovo si è messo su "yes"
[10:19] <ciano> la stampa è ok ma niente scanner
[10:19] <ciano> che devo fare?
[10:21] <krabador> niconico, rfkill unblock all
[10:21] <krabador> niconico, rfkill list | pastebinit
[10:22] <pippy95> rieccomi, quindi come dovrei procedere all'installazione??
[10:23] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363099/
[10:23] <ciano> qualcuno mi da un aiutino pls?
[10:24] <niconico> krabador, ieri sera anche facevo questi passaggi, ma credo che al riavvio ritorna come prima e mi tocca fare sempre il comando rfkill
[10:24] <krabador> !installazione | pietroalbini
[10:24] <ubot-it> pietroalbini: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[10:24] <krabador> !installazione | pippy95
[10:24] <ubot-it> pippy95: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[10:24] <krabador> niconico, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:26] <niconico> krabador, non cambia niente
[10:27] <pippy95> quindi non dovrei avere problemi con l' installazione di schede video o wireless?
[10:27] <krabador> niconico, madonna..
[10:28] <krabador> pippy95, scheda video , se installi 15.10 , ed hai amd, non installare catalyst , nvidia nessun problema con il driver proprietario
[10:28] <krabador> pippy95, entrambe di base funzionano comunque con il driver open
[10:28] <niconico> krabador, e rfkill list tutto "no"
[10:29] <krabador> niconico, dopo sudo ifconfig wlan0 up , come abbiamo fatto prima , vediamo se indovini che comando ci va
[10:29] <krabador> pippy95, wireless, se hai broadcom , vanno installati i driver a mano , successivamente all'installazione del sistema
[10:30] <krabador> pippy95, altre vanno di base
[10:30] <krabador> pippy95, puoi verificare masterizzando dvd o facendo pendrive, di ubuntu, mandando la sessione di prova
[10:31] <niconico> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363202/
[10:32] <krabador> niconico, vedi che se ti ci metti
[10:32] <krabador> niconico, sta funzionando anche adesso
[10:32] <krabador> niconico, sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[10:32] <niconico> krabador, io lo vedo che sta funzionando ma non c'è connessione
[10:33] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363216/
[10:33] <krabador> niconico, perchè magari ti devi connettere
[10:34] <krabador> niconico, non lo fa da solo
[10:35] <niconico> krabador, non sono cosi incapace xD c'è ancora la scritta wi-fi disabilitata
[10:35] <krabador> niconico, e se ci clicchi sopra...
[10:35] <krabador> non fa "abilitato"
[10:35] <krabador> ?7
[10:36] <niconico> krabador, la scritta è in grigio e non è cliccabile.
[10:38] <krabador> niconico, lspci -nn -d 14e4: | broadcom
[10:39] <niconico> comando non trovato
[10:39] <krabador> niconico, copia ed incolla per favore
[10:39] <krabador> niconico, spetta
[10:39] <krabador> niconico, lspci -nn -d 14e4: | pastebinit
[10:40] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363279/
[10:41] <krabador> niconico, lubuntu quale?
[10:42] <niconico> 14.04 lts
[10:43] <krabador> niconico, hai lenovo?
[10:43] <niconico> krabador, si
[10:43] <niconico> g550
[10:44] <krabador> niconico, dpkg -l | grep bcmwl-kernel-source | pastebinit
[10:44] <niconico> krabador: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363321/
[10:45] <krabador> niconico, sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[10:46] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[10:46] <krabador> niconico, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[10:46] <krabador> riavvia
[10:46] <niconico> si+
[10:48] <niconico> krabador, ora la scritta non c'è più. reinstallo quel driver o il b43?
[10:48] <krabador> niconico, non hai mandato tutti i comandi
[10:49] <krabador> niconico, si puo' sapere cosa hai fatto?
[10:54] <Guest71591> Salve a tutti, ho appena installato inkscape, sapete se esiste un comando simile a crea contorno del testo o simili? in pratica come posso trasformare un testo in un oggetto vettoriale modificabile lettera per lettera?
[10:54] <niconico> krabator , scusa? ho fatto solo il riavvio come mi hai detto
[10:54] <krabador> niconico, ti ho mandato 3 comandi
[10:54] <niconico> mi hai fatto disinstallare il driver che avevo bcmwl
[10:55] <krabador> niconico, non hai letto bene
[10:55] <krabador> niconico, <krabador> niconico, sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source
sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
niconico, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
riavvia
[10:55] <krabador> questa era la linea
[10:55] <niconico> li mando ora
[10:55] <niconico> fforse ho riavvianto e non ho letto, scusami ma mentre chatto ho anche la clientela che viene
[10:56] <krabador> niconico, cerca di chiedere assistenza quando puoi essere concentrato
[10:56] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363430/
[10:57] <niconico> krabador, posso installarlo ora il b43?
[10:57] <krabador> niconico, http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Translation-en
[10:57] <krabador> hai ppa di lucid
[10:58] <krabador> accomodati pure a martellare il pc ;)
[10:58] <krabador> dpkg -l | grep bcmwl-kernel-source | pastebinit
[10:58] <niconico> ?
[10:58] <krabador> niconico, manda il comando
[10:59] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363465/
[10:59] <krabador> !chat | Guest71591
[10:59] <ubot-it> Guest71591: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:59] <krabador> niconico, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[11:00] <krabador> e DOPO riavvia
[11:00] <niconico> ok
[11:03] <niconico> krabador, ora è ritornata l'immutabile voce "wifi disattivata" ><
[11:04] <krabador> niconico, sudo modprobe -r b43
[11:04] <krabador> niconico, sudo modprobe b43
[11:04] <krabador> sudo rfkill unblock all
[11:06] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363549/
[11:06] <krabador> niconico, la tua scheda 14e4:4315 rev 01 , è una broadcom attualmente nel focus di problemi
[11:06] <krabador> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1385059
[11:06] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363561/
[11:07] <niconico> krabador, un bug del 2014-10-24?
[11:08] <krabador> niconico, leggi lo status
[11:08] <krabador> niconico, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1422513
[11:09] <niconico> krabator, a me prima funzionava con il driver bcmwl
[11:10] <krabador> niconico, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | pastebinit
[11:10] <krabador> niconico, io mi sto basando al fatto che da quando sono entrato hai detto di avere problemi con questa scheda
[11:10] <krabador> non mi hai detto ne' cosa è successo prima
[11:10] <krabador> ne' da quando tempo presenta problemi
[11:10] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363615/
[11:10] <krabador> ne' cosa è successo immediatamente prima che presentasse il problema
[11:11] <krabador> niconico, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[11:11] <Guest71591> Salve a tutti, ho appena installato inkscape, sapete se esiste un comando simile a crea contorno del testo o simili? in pratica come posso trasformare un testo in un oggetto vettoriale modificabile lettera per lettera?
[11:11] <krabador> !chat | Guest71591
[11:11] <ubot-it> Guest71591: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[11:12] <krabador> niconico, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | pastebinit
[11:13] <niconico> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363635/
[11:13] <MANERAT> Salve ho un problema tecnico nessuna chiavetta dati non viene riconosciuta
[11:13] <krabador> niconico, riavvia
[11:13] <niconico> si
[11:13] <krabador> MANERAT, "nessuna chiavetta dati" ?
[11:14] <MANERAT> chiavetta
[11:14] <krabador> MANERAT, quante ne hai provate?
[11:15] <krabador> MANERAT, su che pc
[11:15] <MANERAT> 3
[11:15] <krabador> MANERAT, su che ubuntu
[11:15] <krabador> MANERAT, se non dici, non puoi sapere.
[11:15] <niconico> krabador, poi
[11:15] <krabador> poi... in che stato sei?
[11:16] <MANERAT> hai ragione perdonami è la mia prima volta su un forum. Mi documento e ci riprovo.Grazie
[11:16] <krabador> buahahahaahah
[11:17] <niconico> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363680/
[11:17] <krabador> niconico, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1385059/comments/11
[11:22] <niconico> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363744/
[11:26] <krabador> niconico, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[11:26] <krabador> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | pastebinit
[11:26] <niconico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363776/
[11:28] <niconico> krabador, stacco 10min e ritorno
[11:45] <niconico> krabador, scusa eccomi
[11:47] <bubbi> salve, ho installato inkscape e vorrei sapere se è possibile creare contorno di testo
[11:47] <bubbi> come in illustrator
[11:47] <bubbi> grazie
[11:48] <krabador> !chat | bubbi
[11:48] <ubot-it> bubbi: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[11:49] <bubbi> grazie
[11:51] <niconico> krabador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13364118/
[12:09] <mariox> qualcuno può dirmi se la scheda video 6200 agp risulta compatibile con i driver open nvidea?
[12:11] <Carlin0> mariox, i nouveau sono buggati installa i driver proprietari
[12:15] <mariox> ok, grazie Carlin0
[12:58] <storman> hi
[13:16] <ciano> buongiorno ragazzi
[13:16] <ciano> mi vedete?
[13:19] <ciano> ola?
[13:19] <storman> ola
[13:19] <storman> !
[13:20] <ciano> ciao storman
[13:20] <ciano> puoi darmi un aiutino?
[13:20] <storman> dimmi
[13:20] <ciano> non riesco vedere la mia stampante epson 3520 comw scanner
[13:21] <ciano> mentre la stamoa è ok
[13:21] <storman> version di ubuntu?
[13:21] <ciano> stampa
[13:21] <ciano> 14.4
[13:21] <ciano> 32 bit
[13:21] <storman> aggiorna ubuntu!
[13:22] <ciano> si? e poi dici che funziona?
[13:22] <storman> si
[13:22] <ciano> provo subito
[13:22] <storman> bravo!
[13:23] <krabador> storman, fornisci sicurezze all'utente , per favore
[13:23] <storman> va bene!
[13:23] <storman> me ne vado!
[13:23] <krabador> storman, su cosa si basa la tua risposta?
[13:23] <krabador> storman, non ti ho chiesto di andartene
[13:23] <storman> sulla mia esperienza
[13:24] <krabador> sei tenuto ad argomentare il consiglio che hai dato all'utenbte
[13:24] <krabador> storman, entra nel dettaglio
[13:24] <storman> ho avuto problemi simili!
[13:24] <krabador> storman, l'utente ha chiesto di una stampante ben precisa
[13:24] <storman> addio!
[13:24] <krabador> ciano, spero sia stato sufficiente
[13:25] <ciano> krabador spiacente ma è tutto come prima
[13:25] <krabador> ciano, non credo che tu abbia capito
[13:25] <krabador> cio' che ho appena fatto parlando con chi ti ha dato il consiglio
[13:26] <ciano> simple scan dice nessuno scanner rilevato
[13:26] <ciano> ci sto battagliando da 2 gioni
[13:27] <ciano> che devo fare?
[13:28] <ciano> krabador?
[13:35] <ciano> pronto? mi potete aiutare?
[13:35] <ExPBoy> ciano, leggi qui se ti può essere di aiuto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2266310
[13:35] <ciano> ok
[13:36] <ExPBoy> in pratica si tratta di installare i driver appropriati
[13:36] <ExPBoy> se esistono poer linux
[13:39] <ciano> niente da fare cmq grazie expboy
[13:40] <ciano> le ho provate tutte
[13:40] <ExPBoy> !epson
[13:40] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'epson'
[13:40] <ExPBoy> uhm
[13:41] <ciano> exboy puoi prenedre il controllo del mio pc?
[13:42] <max55> sera ho la connessione su ubuntu 14.04 che mi va a singhiozzo va da un massimo di 36 mb a 2 mb si puo fare quacosa
[13:47] <max55> sera ho la connessione wifi su ubuntu 14.04 che mi va a singhiozzo va da un massimo di 36 mb a 2 mb si puo fare quacosa
[14:08] <Aldo> help! non riesco ad installare ubuntu su ACER Aspire ONE..
[14:39] <fuxia> Come installo l'aggiornamento di Chrome?
[15:18] <Carlin0> fuxia, hai installato chrome ?
[17:23] <nicox> niconico, mi hai rubato il nick? :S
[17:30] <underdog_italy> buona sera
[17:33] <underdog_italy> avrei un problema con l'installazione di ubuntu 14.04 su un assemblato nuovo, qualcuno può aiutarmi cortesemente?
[17:41] <WP> Ciao ragazzi
[17:42] <WP> dalla versione Live, come si fa per non dover scaricare un programma tutte le volte ad ogni accensione?
[17:51] <ale123> Buonasera a tutti, non mi funge più l'audio su Xubuntu 14.04. Credo sia conseguenza di qualche operazione non corretta nel creare a posteriori la partizione /home. Potete aiuarmi?
[17:51] <akis24> WP: dovresti crearti una live usb con persistenza http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?t=507536
[17:55] <ale123> riposto xk mi è saltata la connesione:
[17:55] <ale123> Buonasera a tutti, non mi funge più l'audio su Xubuntu 14.04. Credo sia conseguenza di qualche operazione non corretta nel creare a posteriori la partizione /home. Potete aiuarmi?
[17:57] <ale123> Se clicco su "Impostazioni audio" mi dà questo errore: Connection to PulseAudio failed
[18:00] <ale123> per favore, c'è nessuno che possa aiutarmi?
[18:10] <ale123> rieccomi. qualcuno può guidarmi a ripare i vari pacchetti o configurazioni mancanti o saltate?
[18:16] <max55> sera a tutti, ho la connessione wifi che va a tratti avvolte a 36mb avvolte a 2 mb si puo fare qualcosa ho ubuntu 14.04
[18:25] <neramarea> sera. dite un po'... qualcuno ha provato il kernel 4.3? è affidabile?
[19:13] <niconico> ragazzi io ho letto in giro diversi metodi per installare un kernel real time, e che poi ce ne sono diversi
[19:14] <niconico> Chi sa quale è il più adatto per produrre musica ?
[20:59] <vince> Buonasera
[21:00] <Guest37319> Buonasera
[21:01] <Guest37319> C'è nessuno?
[21:08] <ficofico> Ciao a tutti, ho un problema con samba
[21:08] <ficofico> riesco a condividere senza password le cartelle che stanno nella home
[21:09] <ficofico> ma solo quelle.... per tutte le altre mi richiede lato cliet la password
[21:16] <cristian_c> ficofico: come hai configurato il server?
[21:18] <ficofico> ho fatto da dolphin
[21:18] <ficofico> sto usando kubuntu
[21:19] <ficofico> ho solo condiviso la cartella e reso visibile a tutti tramite gui
[21:20] <cristian_c> ficofico: dpkg -l | grep samba
[21:21] <cristian_c> !paste | ficofico
[21:21] <ubot-it> ficofico: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:24] <lmgs> haloa, ho un piccolo problema con l'icona tray di Xchat (ma anche di altri client irc) su unity. In pratica se minimizzo in tray e poi vado a richiamare l'icona per riaprire la finestra del client viene lanciato un "doppio" al posto di mostrarmi l'applicazione già in esecuzione, come posso risolvere?
[21:24] <ficofico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13374733/
[21:26] <cristian_c> lmgs: di quale desktop parliamo?
[21:27] <Carlin0> lmgs, prova con hexchat
[21:27] <lmgs> unity
[21:27] <lmgs> ok provo
[21:28] <cristian_c> !info samba
[21:28] <ubot-it> samba (source: samba): SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 2:4.1.17+dfsg-4ubuntu2 (wily), package size 860 kB, installed size 11191 kB
[21:28] <cristian_c> !samba
[21:28] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/Samba
[21:28] <cristian_c> ficofico: controlla il file di configurazione
[21:29] <ficofico> uboy-it non ho capito
[21:30] <ficofico> ho provato anche ad editare il file di configurazione, ho aggiunto security=share e guest=ok
[21:30] <ansa58> salve
[21:30] <cristian_c> ficofico: hai aperto il link?
[21:31] <cristian_c> !paste | ficofico
[21:31] <ubot-it> ficofico: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:31] <cristian_c> ficofico: cosa intendi con 'tutte le altre'?
[21:32] <ficofico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13374891/
[21:34] <lmgs> sto cercando di minimizzare hexchat in tray su unity ma nonostante segua questo "On both Unix and Windows there is an included tray plugin. To enable minimizing to tray on exit go to Settings ‣ Preferences ‣ Alerts." non riesco a trovare ciò che indica
[21:34] <ficofico> ho una partizione ntfs e non riesco a condividere nessuna cartella, così come non riesco a condividere la cartella di dropbox nella home
[21:36] <lmgs> manca proprio la voce "enable system tray icon"che invece su xchat è presente
[21:40] <cristian_c> ficofico: come sono organizzati i permessi nella partizione ntfs?
[21:40] <cristian_c> lmgs: 'nonostante segua questo' <-cosa?
[21:41] <lmgs> cristian_c: "On both Unix and Windows there is an included tray plugin. To enable minimizing to tray on exit go to Settings ‣ Preferences ‣ Alerts."
[21:41] <lmgs> se seguo per percorso la voce "enable system tray icon", così come su xchat, non c'è su hexchat
[21:41] <cristian_c> lmgs: ancora non hai chiarito 'questo' a cosa fa riferimento
[21:42] <cristian_c> a cosa faccia
[21:42] <lmgs> cristian_c: seguo il percorso settings, prefereces, alerts ma non è presente l'opzione per attivare l'icona tray
[21:43] <cristian_c> lmgs: hai riportat un testo in inglese
[21:43] <cristian_c> a meno che non sia stato concepito da te...
[21:44] <lmgs> cristian_c: l'ho trovato nelle faq di hexchat
[21:44] <cristian_c> ok
[21:45] <cristian_c> un attimo
[21:45] <lmgs> christian_c: mi è stato detto di provare hexchat ma non posso verificare se presenti o meno lo stesso problema di xchat perché come dicevo non posso attivare l'opzione tray. Attendo e grazie per l'aiuto
[21:47] <cristian_c> lmgs: allora
[21:47] <cristian_c> !info hexchat-indicator
[21:47] <ubot-it> hexchat-indicator (source: xchat-indicator): Hexchat Indicator Plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.11-0ubuntu7 (wily), package size 7 kB, installed size 57 kB
[21:47] <cristian_c> lmgs: ma non ho capito
[21:47] <cristian_c> hai lamentato il problema con hexchat
[21:48] <ficofico> cristian_c... i permessi sono utente:ficofico gruppo:ficofico
[21:48] <cristian_c> !info xchat-indicator
[21:48] <ubot-it> xchat-indicator (source: xchat-indicator): XChat Indicator Plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.11-0ubuntu7 (wily), package size 7 kB, installed size 53 kB
[21:48] <cristian_c> ficofico: pastebinna
[21:48] <lmgs> cristian_c: il problema è con xchat, con hexchat non ho idea se ci sia o meno visto che non posso attivare l'opzione
[21:49] <cristian_c> lmgs: hai notato la presenza dei pacchetti dei repository della 15.10?
[21:50] <cristian_c> lmgs: che ubuntu usi?
[21:50] <lmgs> cristian_c: ubuntu 14.04 lts
[21:50] <lmgs> xchat-indicator è già installato
[21:52] <cristian_c> beh
[21:53] <ficofico> cristian, questa è una cartella che vorrei condividere
[21:53] <ficofico> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13375346/
[21:54] <cristian_c> http://askubuntu.com/questions/612912/how-to-re-enable-the-systray-indicator-panel-after-latest-updates
[21:56] <lmgs> cristian_c: cosa devo fare?
[21:57] <cristian_c> lmgs: io eviterei però di installare il ppa
[21:57] <cristian_c> e di procedere tramite github
[21:59] <lmgs> cristian_c non so se ho ben espresso il mio problema visto che in quel topic leggo "re enable". Quando clicco nell'icona di xchat sul pannello, quella che appare nel menu a tendina che compare cliccando la busta da lettera. al posto di richiamare il processo attivo mi lancia un altro processo
[21:59] <cristian_c> lmgs: che cosa lancia?
[22:00] <lmgs> cristian_c: un altro processo xchat, ma non quello in esecuzione
[22:01] <cristian_c> ok
[22:01] <cristian_c> lmgs: puoi postare una schermata del desktop?
[22:02] <lmgs> cristian_c: cosa ti serve vedere, così faccio pulizia delle cose personali
[22:03] <cristian_c> lmgs: il pannello
[22:03] <lmgs> cristian_c: con il menu a tendina dentro il quale appare l'icona di xchat aperta?
[22:04] <cristian_c> lmgs: sì
[22:07] <lmgs> cristian_c: non so come fare. appena clicco stamp la tendina si ritrae
[22:08] <cristian_c> lmgs: utilizza gnome screenshot
[22:08] <cristian_c> con un timer
[22:08] <cristian_c> lmgs: 'clicco'?
[22:09] <lmgs> pigio
[22:09] <cristian_c> !info gnome-screenshot
[22:09] <ubot-it> gnome-screenshot (source: gnome-screenshot): screenshot application for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.2-0ubuntu3 (wily), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB
[22:15] <lmgs> christian_c: http://postimg.org/image/fxfeapu2h/
[22:29] <cristian_c> lmgs: cosa ti è arrivato?
[22:30] <cristian_c> lmgs: hai letto il workaround nella pagina del bug?
[22:31] <lmgs> christian_c: http://postimg.org/image/fxfeapu2h/
[22:31] <lmgs> cristian_c: parli del link di prima?
[22:31] <cristian_c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-indicator/+bug/1122853
[22:32] <cristian_c> Looks like xchat-indicator works like it should, the problem is somewhere between messaging menu and xchat (xchat can't use the same instance, it create new one every time you start it, and messaging menu doesn't care)
[22:32] <cristian_c> 1) open /usr/share/applications/xchat.desktop with a text editor
[22:32] <cristian_c> 2) comment line "Exec=...."
[22:32] <cristian_c> 3) add new line:
[22:32] <cristian_c> Exec=sh -c "flock -n -x /var/run/lock/xchat.lock -c xchat || xchat --existing -c 'gui show'"
[22:38] <cristian_c> lmgs: fatto?
[22:40] <lmgs> christian_c, ho sostituito Exec= con quello indicato da te ma niente da fare
[22:43] <cristian_c> lol
[22:50] <lmgs> christian_c: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13376649/
[22:50] <lmgs> devo editare così xchat.desktop?
[22:53] <cristian_c> lmgs: ma cos'avevi fatto prima?
[22:54] <lmgs> cristian_c: niente, l'ho editato così
[22:55] <lmgs> dovevo fare così o sto sbagliando?
[22:55] <cristian_c> lmgs: e come l'hai modificato , esattamente?
[22:57] <lmgs> ho editato Exec
[22:57] <lmgs> scrivendoci =....
[22:57] <lmgs> e aggiungendo sotto
[22:57] <lmgs> Exec=sh -c "flock -n -x /var/run/lock/xchat.lock -c xchat || xchat --existing -c 'gui show'"
[22:57] <cristian_c> lol
[22:58] <cristian_c> lmgs: cosa c'era scritto prima?
[22:58] <niconico> cristian_c, ti scrivo tramite wifi :P
[22:58] <cristian_c> niconico: hai fatto piazza pulita dei ppa?
[22:59] <lmgs> cristian_c: non me lo ricordo, era una stringa parecchio lunga
[22:59] <cristian_c> lmgs: eehhh, mi sa che hai fatto danno
[22:59] <cristian_c> lmgs: perché l'hai cancellata?
[22:59] <lmgs> christian_c: allora come devoseguire queste istruzioni?
[22:59] <lmgs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-indicator/+bug/1122853
[23:00] <lmgs> cosa si intende con 2) comment line "Exec=...."?
[23:00] <cristian_c> lmgs: rirpristina la stringa precedente
[23:00] <lmgs> christian_c: come?
[23:00] <cristian_c> lmgs: puntini di sospensione può significare qualsiasi cosa
[23:00] <niconico> cristianc_c: anche, e poimesso il b43 + fwcutter-b43
[23:00] <cristian_c> lmgs: ed equival al nostro ecc...
[23:00] <niconico> tipo un estrattore di firmware
[23:01] <cristian_c> lmgs: ad esempio reinstallando xchat
[23:01] <lmgs> cristian_c: ok lo reinstallo, e poi che devo fare?
[23:01] <cristian_c> niconico: faccio notare che avevi pure attivato i proposed
[23:01] <cristian_c> niconico: mi stupisce che il sistema non fosse ancora imploso
[23:02] <cristian_c> lmgs: poi commenti la riga Exec
[23:02] <cristian_c> e aggiungi quella citata nel bug report
[23:02] <niconico> cristian_c,c'ho smanettato troppo
[23:02] <lmgs> cristian_c: come la commento?
[23:02] <cristian_c> niconico: occhio che si diventa ciechi
[23:02] <lmgs> cosa devo scrivere dopo l'uguale?
[23:03] <cristian_c> lmgs: riga senza commento
[23:03] <cristian_c> lmgs: #riga con commento
[23:03] <cristian_c> lmgs: non dopo
[23:03] <niconico> cristian_c, pensavo di passare a debian per un sistema più stabile, credo.
[23:03] <cristian_c> niconico: allora
[23:04] <cristian_c> non è questione di debian, anzi
[23:04] <cristian_c> niconico: che c'è la debian testing, che è tutto fuorché stabile
[23:04] <lmgs> cristian_c: non sto capendo. Io apro con gedit il .desktop di xchat. Scrollo fino ad individuare Exec= . Poi cosa devo fare?
[23:04] <cristian_c> niconico: il problema è che 'c'hai troppo smanettato'
[23:05] <cristian_c> niconico: ma se ti serve una distro rolling, debian è ok, così come archlinux
[23:07] <cristian_c> lmgs: https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commento_(informatica)
[23:07] <cristian_c> lmgs: in questo caso: '#'
[23:08] <lmgs> cristian_c, ok e il cancelletto dove devo metterlo esattamente?
[23:08] <cristian_c> lmgs: se devi commentare una riga, lo metti all'inizio, no?
[23:08] <lmgs> cristian_c, chiedo perché non so
[23:09] <lmgs> cristian_c, poi devo aggiungere sotto la riga commentata questo? Exec=sh -c "flock -n -x /var/run/lock/xchat.lock -c xchat || xchat --existing -c 'gui show'"
[23:09] <cristian_c> lmgs: tutte le righe precedute dal simbolo cancelletto in un file di configurazione, vengono ignorate quando lette
[23:10] <cristian_c> lmgs: sì, usi un comando personalizzato
[23:10] <lmgs> cristian_c, va bene grazie, ci provo
[23:10] <cristian_c> al posto di quello corrente
[23:10] <cristian_c> lmgs: poi se non sbaglio devi riavviare la sessione
[23:12] <niconico> cristian_c: tutto questo perchè mi serve un sistema più adatto per produrre musica, infatti penso che i ppa erano proprio
[23:12] <niconico> di kxstudio ><
[23:12] <cristian_c> niconico: e non puoi installare tali software in altro modo?
[23:12] <cristian_c> (senza ppa)
[23:13] <cristian_c> niconico: non so cosa ci sia in quei repository, ma credo che i danni li abbiano prodotti i proposed e magari i ppa di lucid
[23:15] <niconico> sono quelli, perchè erano ppa lucid
[23:16] <cristian_c> niconico: e quindi la cosa non ti aiuterebbe neanche su debian
[23:16] <niconico> cristian_c: ora ho pulito tutto e rimetterli
[23:16] <cristian_c> -,-
[23:17] <cristian_c> niconico: ma io fossi in te li eviterei, e installerei i software con altri metodi
[23:18] <niconico> cristian_c: giusto
[23:19] <lmgs> cristian_c, niente da fare
[23:19] <lmgs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13377605/
[23:23] <cristian_c> lmgs: ma tu minimizzi l'applicazione o la chiudi?
[23:24] <lmgs> cristian_c, la chiudo, appare la finestra che mi chiede se voglio minimizzare in tray e clicco sì
[23:24] <lmgs> il problema c'è anche se clicco l'indicatore mentre ho la finestra aperta
[23:25] <lmgs> se ne apre una nuova
[23:25] <cristian_c> lmgs: fai una prova e minimizza senza chiudere
[23:26] <lmgs> cristian_c, se minimizzo semplicemente si minimizza nel launcher
[23:27] <lmgs> ma se clicco l'indicatore in tray parte un nuovo processo
[23:30] <cristian_c> !info xchat-gnome-indicator
[23:30] <ubot-it> xchat-gnome-indicator (source: xchat-gnome-indicator): XChat-GNOME Indicator Plugin. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.11-0ubuntu6 (wily), package size 7 kB, installed size 53 kB
[23:30] <cristian_c> !info xchat-indicator
[23:30] <ubot-it> xchat-indicator (source: xchat-indicator): XChat Indicator Plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.11-0ubuntu7 (wily), package size 7 kB, installed size 53 kB
[23:31] <cristian_c> lmgs: posta una schermata delle preferenze di xchat
[23:33] <lmgs> cristian_c, ok
[23:35] <lmgs> http://postimg.org/image/53rpk9vnn/
[23:41] <cristian_c> lmgs: ok, fai una prova
[23:41] <cristian_c> lmgs: lancia xchat da terminale
[23:42] <cristian_c> lmgs: minimizzalo e riaprilo dalla tray
[23:42] <cristian_c> lmgs: vedi cosa esce nel terminale
[23:43] <lmgs> ok
[23:46] <lmgs> cristian_c, su terminale non appare niente e il problema persiste
[23:47] <cristian_c> lmgs: dpkg -l | grep xchat | pastebinit
[23:49] <lmgs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378491/
[23:51] <cristian_c> lmgs: ho l'impressione che xchat in quel menù a tendina non serva come tray
[23:51] <cristian_c> ma per lanciare xchat
[23:52] <cristian_c> (ipotesi)
[23:52] <cristian_c> o per le notifiche, un po' come empathy
[23:54] <lmgs> cristian_c, thunderbird e pidgin in quel menu funzionano come tray
[23:55] <cristian_c> lmgs: https://launchpad.net/~fixnix/+archive/ubuntu/indicator-systemtray-unity/+build/7503613/+files/indicator-systemtray-unity_0.2.1-trusty0_amd64.deb
[23:57] <cristian_c> lmgs: ma hai provato anche con hexchat?
[23:58] <lmgs> cristian_c, ho installato quel pacchetto, che ci faccio ora?
[23:58] <lmgs> no hexchat no perché non c'è la possibilità di abilitare il tray nelle impostazioni
[23:59] <cristian_c> lmgs: riavvia la sessione
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.579204
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
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"Carlin0",
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"Guest71591",
"MANERAT",
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"ale123",
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"bubbi",
"ciano",
"cristian_c",
"davcri",
"ficofico",
"fuxia",
"krabador",
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"nicox",
"pippy95",
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"underdog_italy",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-it"
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-es
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[07:03] <successus> salud
[07:03] <successus> salud o/
[13:12] <user_> Hola, tengo el error "Cinnamon tuvo un error interno grave. El sistema esta en modo reparación" Linux Mint 17.2
[13:14] <user_> Alguien puede ayudarme? Sucedio luego de actualizar driver Nvidia, ya intente desinstalarlo e instalar la version q tenia
[18:24] <successus> salud o/
[18:52] <el4tomo> hello world
[21:15] <user_> Hola, tengo el error "Cinnamon tuvo un error interno grave. El sistema esta en modo reparación" Linux Mint 17.2
[21:15] <user_> Alguien puede ayudarme? Sucedio luego de actualizar driver Nvidia, ya intente desinstalarlo e instalar la version q tenia
[21:15] <mimecar> user_, pasa a #ubuntu-es-cafe ya no es una duda de Ubuntu
[22:39] <Guest66507> hola buenas noches
[22:42] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[23:09] <habitat> ubuntu-mx
[23:25] <habitat> ¿se puede instalar compiz en ubuntu 5.10?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.585729
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Guest66507",
"el4tomo",
"habitat",
"mimecar",
"successus",
"user_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/20/%23ubuntu-es.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-es"
}
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-us-wi
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[17:08] <h00k> mikeputnam: I went from Windows XP straight into FreeBSD
[17:09] <h00k> I regret nothing.
[17:09] <h00k> I had to compile my own kernel for SMP support
[17:23] <mikeputnam> nice
[17:23] <mikeputnam> i've not yet tried freebsd
[17:23] <h00k> It was fun. Good times. Tricky on a convertible tablet back in... 07
[17:23] <h00k> but I learned a LOT.
[17:34] <tsimonq2> h00k: would you reccomend it?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.586839
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"h00k",
"mikeputnam",
"tsimonq2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/20/%23ubuntu-us-wi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-wi"
}
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2015-11-20-#juju
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[02:03] <bdx_> 2-vcpu_4-gb-ram_20-gb-hdq
[11:40] <mattyw> evilnickveitch, ping?
[15:51] <jrwren> charmers: do you have history of charm tests? I suspect that mongodb tests/50_relate_ceilometer_test.py was once passing but that ceilometer charm changes and now it wouldn't pass. If I could pin a version the test would pass.
[15:52] <lazypower> jrwren - the history of test runs that we have are on reports.vapour.ws
[15:52] <jrwren> lazypower: thanks.
[15:52] <lazypower> np
[15:53] <jrwren> lazypower: do they go back in time any farther?
[15:54] <lazypower> not that i'm aware of jrwren :(
[15:54] <marcoceppi> jrwren: reports.vapour.ws should go back quite a ways
[15:54] <jrwren> marcoceppi: less than 20days
[15:54] <marcoceppi> jrwren: that's quite a ways
[15:54] <jrwren> no last successful mongodb run from any branch
[15:55] <jrwren> i need years :)
[15:55] <jrwren> or rather, I need a last successful.
[15:55] <jrwren> i suppose I can estimate and bisect ceilometer versions
[16:28] <jrwren> or rather, its environment specific
[16:29] <lazypower> jrwren is it?
[16:34] <jrwren> lazypower: yes. might be OK in local, its not ok in my env. tests run in many environments, right? I saw the matrix of azure, aws, local, etc on reports.vapour.ws
[16:34] <lazypower> :\
[18:25] <bdx_> q
[18:27] <jcastro> http://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/11/20/juju-charmer-summit-designing-for-success/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[18:27] <jcastro> check out marco guys ^^^
[19:22] <bdx> hey whats going on everyone? I'm looking at creating an icon for my puppet-agent charm https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesbeedy/charms/trusty/puppet-agent/trunk ...what I'm wondering, is, can I use the puppet logo in my charm icon? ...I'm guessing not, thought I would ask though. Thanks.
[19:24] <bdx> I guess I could just create an outline of the beaker
[19:24] <bdx> to represent puppet
[20:45] <asanjar1> kwmonroe: just for your info, these days STANDALONE means hdfs cluster lol lol lol
[21:44] <marcoceppi> bdx: I don't see why not ;)
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[04:00] <xubuntu80w> hey I cant connect to wifi?
[04:01] <xubuntu80w> help please
[07:22] <toktok> Good day! I'm running xubuntu 14.04 with a Nvidia GT218, and two screens (Samsung Syncmaster T220 & Samsung Syncmaster T2270HD). The xorg drivers give me wierd crashed - so I switched to the propreritary drivers. In these I can't set the resolution of the VGA connected screen to 1680x1050. When I try to add the mode via xrandr I get "X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist)". I installed xfonts-100dpi a
[07:22] <toktok> Has anyone an idea, what I could try next?
[07:23] <toktok> (Connecting the P2270 via DVI worked resolution-wise, but I had a strong blue tint in the image - so that would also be a way to go if someone knows a fix...)
[07:36] <JesusSavesMe> Hi
[07:37] <JesusSavesMe> I installed Eclipse 4.5 manually and put exacutable symlink in /usr/local/bin
[07:37] <JesusSavesMe> How can I make Whisker menu to show it menu?
[07:38] <JesusSavesMe> Or how should I disable it?
[07:41] <flocculant> https://wiki.smdavis.us/doku.php?id=menulibre_usage
[07:42] <JesusSavesMe> SHouldnt menu automatically detect anything that's in /usr/local/bin?
[07:43] <flocculant> why would it do that - someone could put a doobywotsit in /usr/local/bin
[07:43] <JesusSavesMe> why not?
[07:44] <JesusSavesMe> so it generates menu only form /usr/bin?
[07:44] <flocculant> I've given the info to how to add something for you - not interested in discussions on your wishlist
[07:45] <JesusSavesMe> Anyone else?
[07:57] <JesusSavesMe> So i have to create eclipse.desktop file?
[08:00] <JesusSavesMe> Ok i created eclipse.desktop file and it solved it
[08:00] <JesusSavesMe> I thought Whisker menu generates desktop files itself
[08:10] <function9x> good stuff
[09:46] <JesusSavesMe> hi
[09:46] <JesusSavesMe> Im using eclipse and i found out when i want to run build CTRL + F11 doesnt work
[09:46] <JesusSavesMe> Any ideas?
[10:39] <JesusSavesMe> Is anobody ALIVE here?
[10:39] <function9x> yep just lurkin
[10:49] <toktok_> No one got an idea on my graphic issue? A wink in the right direction would mostly be enough....
[10:50] <maijin> Hello guys, I got a bug on mousepad, where should I address this issue?
[10:51] <function9x> who was first?
[10:51] <genius3000> toktok_: I had some trouble previously as well, with an nvidia card. Had better luck with the xorg drivers though. But, I've been running a different set of drivers for a while/releases now: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[10:58] <function9x> maijin: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mousepad
[11:09] <toktok_> genius3000: Thanks. I'll have a look into the link and see if I can get the problem solved from that side.
[11:11] <genius3000> :) Yeah, that's about all I can recommend. I can't recall what else I had gone through to make things work at times. But that ppa has worked well through a few upgrades, runs one nvidia card to four monitors. Best of luck.
[11:12] <toktok_> Will give it a shot. Looks very promising - thanks a lot....
[11:13] <genius3000> Your welcome.
[11:32] <JesusSavesMe> Why am i ignored?
[11:43] <function9x> what?
[11:51] <knome> JesusSavesMe, if you have a support question, please ask it; asking if anybody is here is not useful for you or us, so many people do not answer that question
[11:51] <JesusSavesMe> i asked already
[11:51] <JesusSavesMe> That's why i asked if anybody is here
[11:52] <knome> well, sometimes answers aren't available...
[11:52] <knome> eg. maybe nobody knows
[11:58] <JesusSavesMe> knome, let's be honest people are not interested in this channel, not interested in helping or AFK.
[11:59] <knome> JesusSavesMe, i disagree.
[11:59] <knome> people are interested to help, but they don't always know the answers.
[11:59] <knome> and sure, not always around.
[12:00] <JesusSavesMe> If you disagree make statistics
[12:00] <knome> !logs
[12:00] <JesusSavesMe> How many actually are active, how many words do each type daily, what they exactly typed
[12:00] <knome> ok, enough of this
[12:05] <JesusSavesMe> knome, you are only trying to moralize me not helping my actual problem here. Im responding to your response to my question, but you are missing my previous question which led to next question. You are disagreeing that people are inactive here, you are spending a lot of time to arguing me about what im doing wrong or right, but you spent zero time actually helping solve my problem. So are you really interested in helping me or are you like most of
[12:05] <JesusSavesMe> the time i've experienced having fun arguing with me and moralizing? I have better morals to read(Bible) than this.
[12:21] <function9x> JesusSavesMe: use the Menu Editor
[12:22] <function9x> bbl need to change the batteries in my mouse :(
[12:23] <thc202> JesusSavesMe, Ctrl+F11 is used to switch to Workspace 11, that's why it's not working (can be changed in Settings > Window Manager > Keyboard)
[12:24] <JesusSavesMe> thc202, thanks
[12:26] <JesusSavesMe> thc202, im clicking clear, but it doesn't clear
[12:27] <JesusSavesMe> glitch or something
[12:28] <thc202> clear works here, try setting other shortcut first?
[12:28] <JesusSavesMe> thc202, after restarting app it works
[12:28] <thc202> cool :)
[12:28] <JesusSavesMe> Thanks. God bless you
[12:29] <thc202> np
[12:34] <function9x> back
[16:48] <excellence> just installed xubuntu :)
[16:56] <xubuntu44w> Hi guys. Maybe you can help me. I am new to Xubuntu and I am trying to create a 7z encrypted archive. It seems unsupported..
[16:56] <xubuntu44w> Password field in Thunar is greyed out..
[17:35] <SlidingHorn> Is there a list somewhere of all packages that are not a part of the core? Long story short, I wanted to just essentially install ubuntu-server, but had installation issues. I decided I'd be better off installing xubuntu & essentially purging out xfce, xfwm, etc. (the whole GUI and the starter applications like Firefox, games, et al)
[17:35] <SlidingHorn> (15.10, by the way...sorry to multi-line)
[17:35] <JohnnyComeL8ly> SlidingHorn, you'd better try to install Ubuntu Server if that is what you want.
[17:37] <SlidingHorn> JohnnyComeL8ly, I attempted, but ran into a bunch of problems in the install (network wouldn't set up, then had a busybox-initramfs error. Installing one of the desktop versions seemed like the lazy/easy way out, lol
[17:37] <SlidingHorn> I'll be building a full GUI from there (x, xdm, openbox)
[17:37] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh, I see.
[17:38] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Does this look like something you'd want? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:39] <SlidingHorn> I found a couple answers on askubuntu, but they were for 14.04 --- The minimal isn't UEFI compatible from what I'd read
[17:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh...
[17:45] <JohnnyComeL8ly> SlidingHorn, how about this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2188353
[17:47] <SlidingHorn> I think this is going to be my best bet at this point: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59640/how-can-i-completely-remove-xfce4-when-apt-get-remove-purge-doesnt-work
[17:48] <SlidingHorn> (the install's already done, so we'll see how it goes. Worst case, I start over, lol)
[17:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> SlidingHorn, ok, do it! Lemme know how you fare!
[17:55] <xubuntu05w> help
[17:58] <xubuntu05w> Hello. I have a problem with a epson stylus office BX320FW wireless. I can't find the drivers. Can you help me? Thank you
[18:03] <SlidingHorn> if that person comes back, let them know that Epson should have a working driver for that device on their site. There was one at least as of August of last year (ref: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2240164)
[18:19] <SlidingHorn> I think I've gotten it...booting up to see if the damn DM still shows up, lol
[18:21] <SlidingHorn> hmmm...splash screen shows, then goes straight to a blinking cursor under "fsck from util-linux 2.26.2 (followed by the number of files/blocks)" -- annnnd then nothing, lol
[18:39] <SlidingHorn> Pretty sure I did it. Only concern was that until I installed xdm, there wasn't even a terminal login prompt...had to go to tty and get going from there. Here's everything I ended up pulling out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13370792/
[19:26] <xubuntu64i> hello all!
[19:26] <xubuntu64i> I have packard bell dot se3 netbook
[19:27] <xubuntu64i> Any body can help me with xubuntu installation?
[19:28] <xubuntu64i> I hear that WD hdds have a problem with ubuntu/xubuntu, how I must config it?
[19:30] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu64i: how did you here wd hdd's have an issue ?
[19:32] <xubuntu64i> Shold have, need something to do with hdparm as I understand. I load via usd with xubuntu 15.10
[19:39] <SlidingHorn> Question: I installed Xubuntu and promptly tore out the GUI. I replaced it with x, xdm & openbox. Now, I've installed synaptic, and for some reason, when I go to open it from the command line, nothing happens...no errors or anything. If I use gksu, it prompts me for the password, and that's it. if I use sudo, it wont authorize. Also tried running software-center (didn't remove it with everything else) and it doesn't load e
[19:39] <SlidingHorn> ither
[20:21] <leander_gabriel> hi
[21:02] <xubuntu06i> Hello
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-uk
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[01:44] <popey> omg, how have I only just realised that our very own penguin42 wrote BeebEm. http://www.mkw.me.uk/beebem/
[01:45] <diddledan> :-o
[01:48] <daftykins> *gasp*
[01:51] <diddledan> who knew people in here were actually doing stuff?
[01:51] <diddledan> I figured as I do as little as possible that everyone else would be the same :-p
[01:51] <popey> (in 1994)
[01:54] <daftykins> diddledan: i might have you beat
[01:54] * diddledan anticipates the spanking
[01:55] <diddledan> oh, you don't mean beat as in flogging
[01:56] <daftykins> nope your luck is out tonight i'm afraid!
[01:56] * diddledan pouts
[02:27] <zmoylan-1i> you always had penguin42 down as a zx spectrum user... :-P
[03:23] <daftykins> oh so silly but cheapty-cheap: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00Y0LX3BS
[03:37] <zmoylan-pi> wow it has a webcam!! :-)
[03:39] <daftykins> i know! *blown away*
[03:39] <zmoylan-pi> bonus points that the new ones are cheaper than the used one
[03:40] <daftykins> better yet, a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD is coming up at 10am
[03:50] <diddledan> when is black friday?
[03:50] <daftykins> 27th odd i think
[03:51] <diddledan> yeah, that's what tech radar says too
[03:51] <daftykins> thanksgiving confirmed as 26th, yip :>
[03:51] <zmoylan-pi> day of hell for retail workers in usa...
[03:52] <daftykins> :)
[03:52] <daftykins> apparently some things start at 6pm the day before, too
[03:52] * zmoylan-pi wonders what the body count will be this year :-/
[03:53] <daftykins> wow i never thought to shop for dishwasher tablets on amazon :P
[03:53] <daftykins> postage material waste is a concern, though
[03:53] <zmoylan-pi> buy bulk leave your offspring a lifetime supply of dishwasher tabs :-)
[03:55] <daftykins> oh i intend for none!
[03:56] <zmoylan-pi> never leave a tab behind!!
[03:56] <diddledan> lol @ techradar: The numbers on Black Friday in 2014 were so big that websites fell over like Victorian ladies on a hot day, with HP, Best Buy, Currys, Tesco, Argos, Boots and Game's websites all requiring smelling salts.
[03:57] <zmoylan-pi> at least argos were selling a fainting couch and boots HAD smelling salts...
[03:57] <diddledan> I wonder how much amazon will make off AWS servers
[03:58] <zmoylan-pi> well if they install the software to run aws in the background of computers sold on amazon... lots :-)
[04:02] <daftykins> that's a bit paranoid
[04:03] <zmoylan-pi> i have a lenovo :-)
[04:06] <daftykins> pff
[04:06] <zmoylan-pi> yeah, i do wonder who owns who too :-P
[04:07] <daftykins> hmm user with a WMV that doesn't play, what fun and games - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359070/
[04:07] <daftykins> video is ok, but no audio
[04:09] <zmoylan-pi> i had audio die in mx player, till i found they had to remove mp3 playback BUT added an addon to add it back...
[04:10] <zmoylan-pi> for legal reasons
[04:10] <zmoylan-pi> which is why i don't let android auto update anymore :-)
[04:10] <daftykins> i turned that off the day facebook bought whatsapp
[04:12] * zmoylan-pi goes to see kitten pics to calm down.... http://thechive.com/2015/11/19/these-cat-parents-are-proud-of-their-little-ones-34-photos/
[04:13] <daftykins> that calls for poking diddledan for emergency kittens
[04:16] <mapps> hmm
[04:16] <mapps> enjoying this blindspot series
[04:16] <mapps> :D
[04:19] <daftykins> but how can you see it? ;)
[04:21] <zmoylan-pi> he has a mirror, what is this, the dark ages? :-)
[04:22] <daftykins> yes!
[04:22] <zmoylan-pi> well... yes... ok... it is night time...
[04:23] <mapps> ;D
[04:24] <zmoylan-pi> does night count as an age... time waiting in a+e excepted of course
[04:24] <daftykins> or a government queue
[04:25] <mapps> lots of tv today yay
[04:26] <zmoylan-pi> a+e isn't a government queue? just with extra pain and gloopiness....
[04:27] <daftykins> mapps: got a free new phone today! http://www.techblo.gg/stuff/n5.jpeg £26 delivered for a new screen
[04:29] <zmoylan-pi> i got a cheap android 5" phone today to replace a 7" tablet for €70 http://www.tescomobile.ie/phones/displayPhone.aspx?p=287
[04:30] <daftykins> ah har, China's learning your accent ;)
[04:30] <zmoylan-pi> bonus points, it allowed me to delete the facebook apps and other dross unlike every other android phone so far
[04:31] <daftykins> \o/
[04:31] <daftykins> the Nexii are good for not coming with that tosh :>
[04:32] <daftykins> i'm going to be staring at my letterbox awaiting this screen, much excitement :)
[04:33] <zmoylan-pi> i'd say that daftykins needs to get out more but reckon that would be the time the delivery would happen...
[04:34] <daftykins> i made a little scrap of paper with sellotape on my front door and a mobile # to call :D
[08:38] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:59] <zmoylan-pi> mutter mutter, not till i have a bowl of porridge mutter...
[09:09] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:10] <MooDoo> howdy davmor2
[09:12] <davmor2> I got a bit of Nancy Sinatra stuck in my head this morning Kinky Boots the film has a lot to answer for :)
[09:19] <MooDoo> davmor2: David Bowie for me at the moment.
[09:19] <SuperMatt> when did systemd land in Ubuntu? Was it utopic or vivid?
[09:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: oh I have some of his in my morning headsong list already
[09:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwk75Fek3qs
[09:23] <MooDoo> yeah i'll stick to DB :)
[09:27] <davmor2> MooDoo: which mr bowie are you stuck with?
[09:27] <awilkins> Dammit, now you Bowie-d me
[09:27] <awilkins> /Life on Mars/
[09:29] <MooDoo> :)
[09:29] <MooDoo> I'm listening to five years
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> mention of bowie reminded me to check into chris hadfields album i heard mention of earlier in the week. digital download only... boo...
[09:41] <Myrtti> would FLAC make you feel better about it?
[09:42] <zmoylan-pi> a cd i could chuck in a box after i rip it is my usual method...
[09:43] <Myrtti> https://www.7digital.com/artist/chris-hadfield/release/space-sessions-songs-from-a-tin-can/
[09:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day! 😃
[10:29] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkq7WZTzkLQ
[10:30] <davmor2> JamesTait: I think that covers it nicely :)
[10:35] <JamesTait> davmor2, I'll give you that, well played. I was looking at https://youtu.be/q4zbtC3-hIw
[10:36] <davmor2> bit hard to sing along with :)
[10:40] <davmor2> JamesTait: oh there is the reprise version too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8MWjFO9NCc
[10:42] <JamesTait> davmor2, you're just trying to slyly sneak Christmas in early, aren't you? 😉
[10:43] <zmoylan-pi> i saw a christmas tree in tescos yesterday. it's too late... save yourselves... \o/
[10:43] <davmor2> JamesTait: You pick the days not me ;)
[10:44] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: there were christmas supplies in before halloween
[10:44] <zmoylan-pi> nah but this was a lit up crimbo tree just inside the door
[13:10] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:25] <foobarry> has there been a ps4 price drop recently
[13:25] <foobarry> starting to want one
[13:26] <zmoylan-pi> the price drop comes 2 days AFTER you buy one, is this your first expensive electronic purchase? :-)
[13:27] <zmoylan-pi> my personal best is ordering a psion 5mx and it arriving on the day psion announced they were going to stop making pdas...
[13:45] <foobarry> Sony has finally confirmed a £50.00 price drop on the PlayStation 4, making the console's recommended retail price £299.99 in the UK for the 500GB model and €349.99 across the rest of Europe.
[13:47] <mapps> hi;]
[15:05] <diplo> foobarry: I've seen them on hotukdeals for around £250 on certain deals
[15:05] <diplo> So defo worth shopping about or the dreaded black friday sales
[16:47] <davmor2> That the xmas lights competition won then https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUNAO0GVEAALF1D.jpg
[16:47] <diddledan> nice
[16:50] <zmoylan-pi> i still prefer... http://www.lovethispic.com/image/52699/dont-put-lights-on-a-palm-tree :-P
[16:51] * diddledan sniggers
[16:59] <davmor2> diddledan: I preferred them as marathons :P
[17:10] <davmor2> Right About Now! the funk soul brother....
[17:11] <zmoylan-pi> which for some reason was used in ireland in an advert for wap to make it look cool and hip and useful...
[17:11] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, wap. that be new fangled shenanigans!
[17:12] <zmoylan-pi> it's like html for sms!!
[17:12] <davmor2> diddledan: stands for way advanced protocol rigth?
[17:13] <zmoylan-pi> and just like minitel in ireland it had a huge launch and no one used it as it cost silly money
[17:13] <diddledan> hmm. lastpass is broken
[17:14] <diddledan> they appear to be entirely gone from the web
[17:15] <davmor2> diddledan: probably got hacked but don't worry your passwords are safe with them
[17:16] <zmoylan-pi> they're adding 1 character to every password for fun...
[17:19] <diddledan> maybe they're being DDoSed?
[17:19] <diddledan> their website is timing out
[17:19] <diddledan> chrome helpfully says "The server for https://lastpass.com/ took too long to respond. It may be overloaded."
[17:20] <zmoylan-pi> the nsa is backing up their data :-)
[17:20] <davmor2> diddledan: http://www.securityweek.com/security-flaws-lastpass-exposed-user-passwords
[17:21] <diddledan> yeah, they fixed those
[17:22] <davmor2> diddledan: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/lastpass.com
[17:22] <awilkins> Why do people trust a third party service to keep their passwords safe anyway?!?
[17:23] * awilkins uses Dropbox + Password Safe + compatible programs
[17:23] <davmor2> I just use Hunter2 nobody guesses that
[17:24] <awilkins> It's astounding how all IRC clients still implement that password protection feature - all I saw was *******
[17:25] <davmor2> awilkins: I does blow the mind right, I bet you copy pasted that right cause I saw Hunter2 my end :)
[17:26] <zmoylan-pi> postits on your monitor is the way to go but you have to cover any webcams if you wear glasses :-)
[18:22] <popey> !ping
[18:22] <lubotu3`> pong!
[18:30] <zmoylan-pi> !wakka
[18:30] <daftykins> Pacman?
[18:30] <zmoylan-pi> or fozzie bear...
[18:31] <daftykins> hurrah i finally got a jacket i ordered 1 month ago delivered to my local Blacks shop :)
[18:32] <zmoylan-pi> now you just need to 1) get to shop 2) get staff member 3) one who can find item 4) can work a till 5) acknowledge you ordered it...
[18:32] <zmoylan-pi> good luck :-)
[18:33] <daftykins> oh it's about 30m from my door, so all done :)
[18:33] <daftykins> benefits of living 5m from the high street
[18:33] * zmoylan-pi puts on kettle and awaits tale of horror... L0(
[18:34] <zmoylan-pi> :-)
[18:34] <zmoylan-pi> hand went asleep...
[18:35] <daftykins> ;]
[18:37] <popey> !ping
[18:37] <lubotu3`> pong!
[18:37] <popey> yay
[18:39] <daftykins> popey: that's a fine days work :D
[18:40] <popey> My work here is done!
[18:41] <daftykins> \o/
[18:44] <davmor2> !popey
[18:44] <lubotu3`> popey is the UK alternative to elvis.
[18:45] <daftykins> :D
[18:47] <diddledan_> Nice
[18:47] <diddledan_> !isitoutyet
[18:47] <lubotu3`> It's out! Party in #ubuntu-release-party - download at http://ubuntu.com/download/
[18:47] <diddledan_> Lies
[18:49] <daftykins> why?
[18:52] <diddledan_> Xenial isn't due yet
[18:54] <daftykins> got quite a while :)
[18:54] <daftykins> a new LTS is much excite, however
[18:58] <diddledan_> But the name isn't fun like wily tho
[19:00] <daftykins> a mate in another channel was testing wily on an old PC, he had some kind of card that was getting misidentified by the kernel at bootup, yet worked fine in trusty
[19:01] <daftykins> at one point it disappeared so i mentioned the ol' PSU power connector detach from the motherboard to fully discharge it, worked a charm and the card came back - yet it took changing slot for the card to be identified
[19:01] <daftykins> seemed like something from the days before programmable interrupt controllers
[19:04] <diddledan_> Wow!
[19:04] <diddledan_> Old hardware few
[19:04] <diddledan_> Ftw
[19:07] <directhex> have been working many days to get mono updated for ubuntu x
[19:08] <daftykins> that bringing all the open sauce MS .NET goodness to Linux land?
[19:08] <daftykins> i say goodness but i know nothing of it :)
[19:11] <directhex> daftykins: well, mono 4.2 has more microsoft source code in it than 4.0, and 3.12- it was just standalone libs, not their core class library stuff
[19:13] <daftykins> interesting
[19:14] <directhex> well technically they both have just as much microsoft source, it's just in 4.0 only a limited number of microsoft's files are compiled in
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[10:09] <LupusE> hi
[11:11] <Hootch> ich muss jetzt einen eigenen mailserver aufsetzen. ich dachte dabei an postfix. könnt ihr gute quellen nennen, die bei einrichtung und sicherung helfen? ubuntu wiki und ?
[11:14] <mgolisch> Hootch: wozu?
[11:27] <Hootch> mgolisch: um mails zu versenden? von eigenem server / domain?
[11:28] <koegs> Hootch: ich benutze seit ein paar Wochen erfolgreich https://mailinabox.email/
[11:29] <koegs> setzt dir einen vernünftigen Mailserver mit Kalender, Kontakten, Webinterface auf
[11:30] <koegs> oder willst du nur lokal versenden?
[11:33] <mgolisch> die frage ist halt was genau du machen willst
[11:35] <Hootch> ich muss auf dem server aus programmen mails versenden (status mails vom system). Den Aufwand eines eigenen Mailserver scheue ich, weil das Ding recht aufwendig werden kann
[11:36] <Hootch> Und such nun nach einer Alternative oder guten Lösung
[11:36] <koegs> Hootch: dann empfehle ich ssmtp
[11:36] <koegs> versendet mails über einen externen Mailserver/externes Konto
[11:36] <Hootch> ja die ausführung passiert für java->smtp und python
[11:37] <Hootch> also ssmtp ist ein console programm, oder?
[11:37] <mgolisch> mailgun?
[11:37] <Hootch> du meinst ne spamschleuder? nein ist es nicht
[11:37] <mgolisch> nee ich meine mailgun.com
[11:38] <mgolisch> ist son email as a service ding wo man ueber eine api emails versenden kann
[11:38] <koegs> Hootch: es ist ein simples tool um lokale Mail über einen externen Account (bei welchem Hoster auch immer) zu verschicken
[11:38] <_moep_> Hootch: sSMTP is nen protokoll
[11:40] <Hootch> is ja witzig, ssmtp agiert wie ein lokaler MTA aber deligiert an einen externen MTA?
[11:41] <ppq> wenn man nur von lokal aus mails versendet, ist postfix doch voll ok
[11:41] <ppq> oder hab ich was nicht mitbekommen
[11:41] <Hootch> nur postfix etc. muss sicher eingestellt sein. spam filter müssen laufen und ich muss das mit intruder detection bla kram überwachen
[11:41] <Hootch> das will ich mir echt sparen
[11:43] <koegs> Hootch: wie schon 3x geschrieben, wenn du irgendwo externen einen mail-account hast und einfach nur ein server mails darüber schicken soll, dann reicht ssmtp und ist schnell aufgesetzt
[11:43] <Hootch> ja schon notiert :) die idee ist gut
[11:44] <mgolisch> ist die beste idee dann muss sich externer mail provider um den email server kuemmern
[11:45] <mgolisch> der macht das sicher besser als du
[11:45] <Hootch> das glaub ich auch :)
[11:46] <Hootch> aber lernen möchte ich das auch mal. nur für einen echten einsatz, wäre das die falsche entscheidung
[11:47] <ppq> hab hier auf dem vserver postfix installiert und erlaube halt nur verbindungen von lokal
[11:52] <Hootch> danke erstmal. ssmtp kann wohl nur über die konsole nutzen. python, php geht ohne probs - mit java könnte ich das auch so machen. Das Programm ist derzeit auf die Nutzung von smtp eingestellt. Und ssmtp kann ich über smtp nicht ansprechen, oder?
[11:58] <koegs> wenn der explizit nen smtp-server ansprechen will, dann geht das leider nicht mit ssmtp
[11:58] <koegs> dann wohl eher esmpt oder exim4
[12:00] <Hootch> pff, dann soll der kunde 3€ mehr im monat zahlen .. und fertsch
[12:01] <Hootch> das bind ich mir nicht ans bein
[12:35] <woodworker> hi ich habe ein problem mit audio über kopfhörer buchse bei meinem thinkpad T440p seit dem update auf 15.10
[12:35] <woodworker> interne lautsprecher spielen audio ab
[12:36] <woodworker> google hilft auch nicht viel
[12:36] <woodworker> http://askubuntu.com/questions/694659/no-sound-in-headphones-after-upgrade-to-15-10 - nur das gefunden
[13:35] <purukumi> halli hallo, kann mir jemand sagen wo ich die konfigurationsdatei für libreoffice finde? falls ich eine neue tabellenkalkulation öffnen möchte, sind die zellen sehr komisch formatiert und ich bekomm es nicht hin sie wieder normal zu formatieren
[13:40] <leszek> purukumi: schau mal in ~/.config/libreoffice/VERSIONSNUMMER
[13:41] <k1l_> hätte jetzt auch auf den .config ordner getippt. aber wüsste nicht, dass ich jemals da was hätte umstellen wollen :)
[13:42] <leszek> k1l_: den splash hab ich mal darüber umgestellt :P
[13:42] <purukumi> finds irgendiwe merkwürdig, ich hab nichts an den einstellungen geänder, auf einmal sind die zellen winzig klein, die schriftart auch obwohl sie auf 10 eingestellt ist
[13:42] <leszek> purukumi: evtl. liegts am desktop theme
[13:43] <leszek> LO macht da manchmal dämmliche Sachen, wie auf KDE z.B. die scrolleistengröße als größe für tabs nehmen
[13:43] <purukumi> hab am theme nichts geändert..
[13:44] <purukumi> aufeinmal ist alles einfach kompirmiert..
[13:44] <k1l_> andere auflösung?
[13:44] <k1l_> hast du das orginal oder aus nem PPA?
[13:44] <purukumi> benutze libre office 5 war bei mate 15.10 vorinstalliert
[13:45] <k1l_> meins startet noch normal :)
[13:45] <purukumi> ~/.config/libreoffice und hier ist der ordner 4 angegeben??
[13:45] <purukumi> also der ordner heisst eifnach "4"
[13:47] <purukumi> und finde dort auch keine konfigurationsdatei die ich löschen könnte :/
[13:47] <purukumi> damit es sozusagen wie beim ersten öffnen startet
[13:48] <k1l_> benenn mal den libreoffice ordner dort im .cofing um.
[13:49] <purukumi> es kann ja so einfach sein, dankeschönm :D
[13:50] <purukumi> das ist echt verrückt, woran kann sowas liegen, dass es einfach von alleine alles umformatiert? :D
[13:51] <k1l_> hat er wohl irgendwo irgendwas gespeichert. nicht in ner .conf sondern ner anderen datei
[13:52] <purukumi> hmm,naja jetzt funktionierts wieder, vielen dank nochmal
[13:52] <Rochvellon> Oder es wurde beim Beenden was falsches gespeichert oder so.
[14:16] <mpathy> Hi Ihr! Kennt sich hier jemand mit VGA/PCI Passtrough unter Xen aus? (aka spielt jemand aktuelle 3D-Spiele für Windows unter Xen mit Ubuntu nebenan? *g*)
[14:17] <mpathy> Brauch ich zwei Grafikkarten oder kann ich eine Sharen und wie ist da unter nem aktuellen Ubuntu der Performanceverlust?
[14:20] <Rochvellon> bei pci-passtrough brauchst du eine weitere GraKa
[14:35] <uniCATx> kann java unter ubuntu bedenkenlos installiert werden openJDK7 ???
[14:35] <uniCATx> Java inklusive des Browser-Plugins
[14:36] <uniCATx> sind irgendwelche bedenken bekannt????
[14:36] <k1l_> wenn man die java hölle haben will/muss dann hat man keine andere wahl.
[14:38] <uniCATx> k1l_, ich bevorzuge himmlische verhältnisse :-) thx
[14:45] <mpathy> Rochvellon, ich habs befürchtet. Mein Hexacore hat keine integrated mehr und meine alte Radeon reinzumachen frisst mir strommäßig die Haare vom Kopf und ob die Lanes ausreichen muss ich auch gucken
[14:47] <mpathy> Dann die Alternativfrage: Ich hab 2 SSDs. Ich würde auf eins Win10 installieren und auf eins Ubuntu. Ich mach dann Dualboot. Die Frage ist: Kann ich jeweils ner VM auf dem jeweiligen gestarten Hostsystem sagen: Nimm die gesamte andere Platte für deine VM?
[14:48] <mpathy> Unter Linux das ner VM bzgl. der Windows-Platte zu sagen wird wohl Riesenprobleme machen. Aber andersrum, in Win10 ne VM die die andere Platte als Datenträger nimmt, das müsste doch relativ reibungslos gehen? Linux macht eh immer Hardware Detection bei jedem Boot
[14:48] <dadrc> Joa, Ubuntu sollte sowas mitmachen, das Windows wird sich wahrscheinlich beschweren
[14:52] <mpathy> dadrc, hast du mir da ne Idee nach was ich da suchen könnte? versuch so ne Lösung grad in Google zu finden. Im Ubuntu Wiki wird der andere Weg gezeigt und da wird auch klargemacht, das diese Installation dann eher so fix ist als VM unter Linux
[14:54] <dadrc> Kommt wahrscheinlich drauf an, womit du unter Windows virtualisierst
[14:54] <dadrc> http://www.serverwatch.com/server-tutorials/using-a-physical-hard-drive-with-a-virtualbox-vm.html ← sowas willst du
[15:02] <mpathy> dadrc, hört sich gut an! :D weils auf der CLI war ist es mir bisher nie eingefallen.. da sollte er wohl kein Problem mit haben.. Singlescreen und Dualscreen macht Ubuntu ja auch on the fly
[15:22] <purukumi> hey, mal ne frage, kann man irgendwo den splashscreen ausstellen, der ist bei mir etwas buggy :/
[15:22] <k1l_> jo. im grub die zeile editieren vom kernel und da das splash rausnehmen.
[15:23] <k1l_> das bleibt aber nur einmalig so (zum testen). danach dann in /etc/default/grub das ändern und nen "sudo update-grub" fahren
[15:23] <purukumi> also in der grub.cfg?
[15:24] <xfst> Och , wo wir doch gerade beim Grub sind :-)
[15:25] <purukumi> die befindet sich in /boot/grub oder?
[15:25] <xfst> Ich habe da auch kurz eine Frage ...
[15:26] <k1l_> purukumi: nein
[15:26] <k1l_> beim booten im grub menü "e" drücken und da das splash entfernen
[15:27] <xfst> Ich habe mir Ubuntu Mini im VM-Player installiert. D.h. nach dem start von Ubuntu, lande ich im Terminal. Wenn ich die VM dann auf Vollbildschirm bringe wird das Terminal leider nicht mit resized ... Jemand ne Idee?
[15:27] <egon1> hi
[15:27] <egon1> seit ihr auch beim ubuntutouch fit?
[15:28] <k1l_> egon1: kommt drauf an
[15:28] <egon1> also habe ein bq aquaris und kann keine apps mehr installieren
[15:28] <egon1> er bringt immer wieder anmeldefehler
[15:30] <egon1> k11: also weisst du auch nicht?
[15:30] <k1l_> wüsste ich jetzt so spontan nicht. kannst ja mal in #ubuntu-touch (englisch) fragen oder im forum auf ubuntuusers.de
[15:30] <egon1> mein prob ist ich möchte nachichten übers netz an ein firefoxphone senden im whatsapp-stil
[15:31] <egon1> ich glaube die app telegram sollte dafür geeignet sein
[15:32] <k1l_> whatsapp ist leider nen schwieriges thema. solange whatsapp nicht will wird das nichts. telegram geht aber.
[15:33] <xfst> Habe auch schon /etc/default/grub angepasst mit GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT ="splash quit vga=792". War ein Tipp, funktioniert aber nicht.
[15:34] <k1l_> xfst: hat vmware da auch guest additions wie vbox? bei vbox funktioniert das problem los
[15:34] <egon1> gibt es denn einen deutsche chatroom für ubuntutouch?
[15:34] <xfst> vbox?
[15:35] <Frickelpit> xfst: nennt sich open-vm-tools bei ubuntu und installiert die vmware-tools
[15:35] <xfst> Ach du meinst extra Tools ? Ja das hat es.
[15:35] <k1l_> egon1: soweit ich weiß nicht. es sind aber auch einige deutsche dort. zur not probier es mal. ansonsten halt im forum. da gibts extra eine ubuntu-touch ecke als oberfläche wo viele user sind
[15:37] <xfst> k1l_: Ich denke, ich habe sie installiert, aber werde es vorsorglich noch einmal machen.
[15:38] <k1l_> xfst: ich selber nutze vmware nicht. aber bei virtualbox liegt das immer an den fehlenden guest-additions
[15:41] <xfst> k1l_: Danke, ich versuche es noch mal zu installieren :-)
[15:43] <koegs> reden wir von GUI oder tty?
[15:43] <maredebianum> xfst: vmware hat auch eigene repos für die tools, falls die freie Variante nicht tut
[15:53] <xfst> k1l_: Hab jetzt die open-vm-tools installiert. Problem bleibt. Schade
[16:14] <xfst> k1l_: Ich habs :-)
[16:16] <xfst> k1l_: Nach der Installation der open-vm-tools habe ich noch in den VMWare Player die Display Settings auf 1024 x 768 geändert. Die standen dort nämlich noch auf fix 800x600. :-)
[16:18] <k1l_> gut :)
[16:19] <xfst> Danke für deine Hinweise :-)
[17:06] <rentier_> Servus, jedes Mal, wenn ich Synaptic oder dergleichen öffne, bekomme ich seit dem Update auf Trusty die Fehlermeldung, dass die Abhängigkeiten von 1 Paket defekt sind.
[17:06] <k1l_> rentier_: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade in einem pastebin bitte
[17:07] <rentier_> Ich kann dann nichts installieren etc, bevor ich nicht das Programm "gpe-tetris" deinstalliere. Hinterher installiere ich es dann immer wieder (mit Ubuntu Software-Center, das mault erst hinterher) und es funktioniert einwandfrei und beeinträchtigt das System sonst in keinster Weise.
[17:09] <rentier_> k1l_, von mir aus, das dauert aber noch ne Weile. Und ich wollte eigentlich nur wissen, wie ich diesen fehler UNTERDRÜCKE statt ohn zu beheben, weil es wie gesagt de facto keinen Fehler gibt
[17:09] <rentier_> ihn
[17:10] <rentier_> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/Y90iA3f9
[17:10] <k1l_> fehler gibt es doch genug, deswegen machst du ja den affentanz jedesmal :)
[17:10] <k1l_> lieber einmal richtig fixen
[17:11] <rentier_> k1l_, es gibt keinen Fehler, der das System beeinträchtigt. Bei jeder Aktualisierung gibt es MASSENWEISE Fehler, die dafür sorgen, dass irgendwas nicht funktioniert, was vorher einwandfrei ging
[17:11] <rentier_> k1l_, ich hatte noch NIE ein beim ersten Mal funktionierendes Thunderbird-Update
[17:11] <rentier_> k1l_, aber dieses Tetris macht exakt überhaupt nichts, was es nicht soll und deswegen soll mein System bitteschön dieses Symptom ignorieren, das es für einen Fehler hält.
[17:12] <rentier_> k1l_, hältst du das ernsthaft für unbillig?
[17:13] <k1l_> was sagt: apt-cache policy gpe-tetris:i386
[17:14] <rentier_> k1l_, gpe-tetris:i386:
[17:14] <rentier_> Installiert: 0.6.4-2
[17:14] <rentier_> Installationskandidat: 0.6.4-2
[17:14] <rentier_> Versionstabelle:
[17:14] <rentier_> *** 0.6.4-2 0
[17:14] <rentier_> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[17:14] <koegs> -.-
[17:14] <k1l_> also hast du das per .deb installiert?
[17:14] <koegs> nächstes mal pastebin, bist doch nicht zum ersten mal hier
[17:14] <rentier_> k1l_, richtig
[17:15] <rentier_> koegs für drei Zeilen? Da hab ich ja in der Fehlerbeschreibung schon mehr getippt
[17:15] <k1l_> rentier_: dann nimm keien .debs die nicht für 14.04 gemacht sind. dann fährst du auch nicht dein paketsystem vor die wand
[17:15] <k1l_> und bei den PPAs solltest du auch nochmal gucken ob es das raring PPA wirklich braucht
[17:15] <rentier_> k1l_, es gab für das Programm keine neueren Pakete und das Programm hatte ich zuerst - DANN 14.04
[17:16] <koegs> rentier_: zählen verlernt? ich sehe hier 5
[17:16] <rentier_> k1l_, damals hättet ihr mir gesagt "Wie kannst dui die Aktualisierung aufschieben? Denk doch mal an die Sicherheit"
[17:16] <k1l_> rentier_: ja, es ist eben ein uraltpaket. und 14.04 meckert da, weil das uraltpaket abhängigkeiten haben will, die es heute nicht mehr gibt
[17:17] <k1l_> rentier_: 12.04 hat immernoch support. das kannst du noch nutzen. aber alles zwischen 12.04 und 14.04 ist tot.
[17:18] <rentier_> k1l_ Ich habe schon verstanden, dass das System sich völlig ohne Grund weigert, abwärtskompatibel zu sein. Deswegen meine EDingangsfrage "wie unterdrücke ich diese Insubordination"?
[17:18] <k1l_> es weigert sich nicht völlig ohne grund
[17:19] <rentier_> k1l Doch! Das Programm l#uft einwandfrei und alles andere läuft ebenfalls. Und was auf meinem Rechner nicht einwandfrei läuft - da gibt es so einiges - das hat garantiert nichts mit diesem Programm zu tun.
[17:20] <k1l_> rentier_: nein. auch wenn es dir nicht passt. es meckert völlig zurecht. du ruinierst dein paketsystem indem du da ein uraltpaket reindrückst. und das uraltpaket will andere uralpakete, die es nicht mehr gibt
[17:20] <k1l_> das mag dir nicht passen ist aber logisch wie technisch vollkommen richtig so.
[17:20] <rentier_> Ich verblogge diesen Dialog mal eben kurz.
[17:23] <rentier_> k1l_, mit jeder Aktualisierung kriege ich haufenweise Pakete, die nicht funktionieren und das ist auch "richtig so". Das heißt aber noch lange nicht, dass es akzeptabel ist.
[17:24] <k1l_> rentier_: du hast mit gewalt eine falsche schraube an dein auto gebaut. weil du es eben so toll findest. jetzt meckert dein auto jedesmal, dass es mit der falsche schraube nicht fahren kann.
[17:25] <k1l_> und jetzt kackst du alle anderen an, warum denn du jedesmal die falsche schraube entfernen musst damit du fahren kannst.
[17:25] <k1l_> merkste was?
[17:25] <ppq> \o/ auto-metapher \o/
[17:26] <rentier_> k1l_, Um im Bild zu bleiben: Ich habe keineswegs eine Schraube, sondern ein von mir gewünschtes Zubehörteil von der Fachwerkstatt vor gar nicht langer Zeit einbauen lassen. Es funktionierte zu meiner vcollsten Zufriedenheit und das tut es auch nach wie vor.
[17:26] <k1l_> wenn du eben nicht 14.04 pakete in dein 14.04 quetschen willst, dann sie zu, dass du deren abhängigkeiten auch erfüllst. oder bau sie dir selber zu den aktuellen abhängigkeiten.
[17:26] <k1l_> rentier_: nein, du hst nicht mehr das 13.04 auto. du hast jetzt das 14.04 auto
[17:26] <rentier_> k1l_, Nur seit einer der letzten Inspektionen behauptet die Fachwerkstatt, das System passe nicht zur Farbe meiner Winterreifen und besteht darauf, dass ich es ausbaue und wegwerfe, bevor sie noch einen Handschlag an meiner Karre tut.
[17:27] <k1l_> versucht mal nen dachgepückträger vom vw bus t4 auf den t5 zu bauen. :)
[17:27] <rentier_> k1l_, Ich habe NICHT meinen Computer gewechselt.
[17:27] <k1l_> rentier_: doch
[17:27] <k1l_> das komplette OS
[17:27] <rentier_> k1l_, Ach so! Das erklärt einiges. War mir echt nicht aufgefallen.
[17:28] <k1l_> gpe-tetris wie auch gpe-icons gibts seit 13.10 nicht mehr. weil das projekt selber seit dem verlassen scheint.
[17:28] <rentier_> Das OS ist ein winziger Bestandteil meines Computers und wenn dessen Entwickler so einen Vorgang auslösen, haben sie ihren Job nicht gescheit gemacht. Das sieht Linus übrigens haargenau so.
[17:28] <k1l_> rentier_: du redest quatsch
[17:30] <k1l_> rentier_: du versuchst hier technische und logische kausalzusammenhänge mit wünschen, vorwerfen und verdrehen wegzudiskutieren. das wird aber nichts. das problem bleibt weiterhin, dass du da uraltpakete von 13.04 oder 13.10 hast und die eben abhängigkeiten haben die 14.04 nicht mehr erfüllen kann, weil es eben diese pakete nicht mehr gibt, weil der coder sie nicht mehr macht
[17:31] <k1l_> also gucke ob die abhängikeiten erfüllen kannst oder bau die das spiel aus den sourcen selber gegen aktuelle abhängigkeiten.
[17:32] <koegs> wohlgemerkt anstatt apt eine seiner zentralen und wichtigen funktionen auszureden, sicher zu stellen das die abhängigkeiten zwischen den paketen erfüllt sind O.o
[17:36] <k1l_> http://gpe.handhelds.org/ << die seite ist offline. das erklärt vielleicht auch warum da keiner mehr aktuelle pakete machen will/kann
[17:40] <k1l_> rentier_: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spiele/Tetris such dir hier ein neues aktuelles tetris aus.
[17:40] <rentier_> k1l_, die hab ich alle probiert und sie sind alle irgendwie doof.
[18:10] <Rochvellon> mpathy: ob das jetzt 16 oder nur 8 Lanes sind, sollte sich von der Performance nicht sonderlich viel nehmen
[18:14] <Rochvellon> hm, kann jemand was mit der Fehlermeldung "** (shares-admin:15623): CRITICAL **: share_settings_set_name_from_folder: assertion 'path != NULL' failed" anfangen?
[19:18] <lugo_> Hi, folgendes Problem: 1 Festplatte mit folgenden Partitionen: sda1 NTFS (Win, boot-flag), sda3 (erweiterte Partition) mit sda5 (Ubuntu) und sda6 (Swap) sowie sda2 mit Daten auch NTFS. Ist es möglich die erweiterte Partition sda3 mit sda1 zu "vereinigen" ohne Ubuntu neu installieren zu müssen?
[19:26] <k1l_> lugo_: also willst du das win los werden und dem ubuntu dem platz geben?
[19:26] <lugo_> k1l_: exakt
[19:27] <k1l_> also das wird auf jedenfall ne menge rumschieberei. aber du musst das sda1 erst löschen, dann die sda2 nach vorne schieben, dann das freie in sda3 holen, und dann gucken wo du das haben willst.
[19:27] <k1l_> sollte eigentlich klappen
[19:31] <lugo_> mh also erst sda1 formatieren, dann die dateien von der sda2 auf die dann formatierte sda1 schieben, dann die sda2 formatieren und dann gucken ob man was zusammenfügen kann?
[19:32] <lugo_> klingt soweit ganz gut, nur ist dummerweise sda2 etwas größer als sda1, vielleicht muss ich da mal was auslagern
[19:32] <k1l_> lugo_: nein
[19:33] <k1l_> mach mal nen live usb an und öffne da gparted.
[19:34] <k1l_> dann in gparted kannste dir das so wie beschrieben habe nach einander zurechtklicken. (evtl musst du da die swap partition wieder aushängen). und dann am ende auf ausführen klicken, dann rattert der die aufgaben nach und nach ab. kann aber dauern bei so viel bewegung auf der festplatte
[19:34] <k1l_> und es kann passieren, dass da die platten dann anders nummeriert werden. das wirste beim ersten booten ja merken und musst das evtl nochmal korrieren in deinem ubuntu dann.
[19:35] <lugo_> naja, wenn er anders nummeriert wird doch grub schwierigkeiten kriegen?
[19:36] <k1l_> ja wiegesagt, das merkste dann :) dann musste nochmal das live usb booten und dann korrieren mit nem chroot.
[19:37] <lugo_> ok
[20:57] <geser> da ja per UUID des Dateisystems die Partition rausgesucht wird, sollte das kein Problem sein mit der geänderten Nummerierung
[21:35] <leszek> kann mir mal ein experte verklickern warum inherit=breeze bei einem neuen icon theme nicht 100% geht. Es fehlen irgendwie die hälfte der mimetypen ? Kann es sein, dass inherit nicht funktioniert, falls das original icon theme symlinks verwendet ?
[23:51] <Pixelbyte> ppq ich habe mysterium entsclüsselt
[23:51] <Pixelbyte> das*
[23:52] <Pixelbyte> ist noch jmd wach, der wo mir entschlacken(ram) von ubuntu helfen kann
[23:52] <k1l_> ?
[23:53] <k1l_> was ist denn das problem?
[23:54] <Pixelbyte> ich habe 12 gb arbeitspeicher, ubuntu nimmt ca 7gb. ich brauchte mehr für eine vm
[23:54] <k1l_> zeig mal ein "free -m"
[23:54] <k1l_> also im pastebin am besten
[23:54] <Pixelbyte> mom
[23:55] <Pixelbyte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378674/
[23:56] <k1l_> was läuft denn da bei dir?
[23:56] <Pixelbyte> firfox
[23:56] <k1l_> mit 300 tabs mit flash an?
[23:57] <Pixelbyte> nicht ganz soviel und sollte eh nicht laufen
[23:57] <Pixelbyte> flash*
[23:57] <koegs> Aber was top/htop wer so viel Speicher braucht?
[23:57] <k1l_> stell in ff halt erstmal an, dass er die seiten nur lädt wenn sie offen sind.
[23:58] <Pixelbyte> mom
[23:59] <Pixelbyte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378744/
[23:59] <Pixelbyte> ja aber ubuntu brauch bei mir alleine 7gb
[23:59] <k1l_> plugin container schreit aber nach flash :)
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2015-11-20-#juju-gui
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[09:07] <mhilton> morning uiteam
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2015-11-20-#cloud-init
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[08:30] <leeuwenrjj> Hi, I have a simple question but I cannot find it anywhere in the docs: How can I set the security repositories through cloud-init? apt_mirror for the mirror works fine but I cannot find the setting for the security repo's (ubuntu)
[20:45] <zero_shane> hi all - I have a question on cloud-init, used in conjunction with the Ubuntu "vmbuilder" tool - everything is working perfectly for me - **except** the default config for /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/90_dpkg.cfg (datasource_list) wires in a bunch of datasources that causes a LONG delay on initial boot of my VMs
[20:46] <zero_shane> I change it afterwards - to remove all datasources I don't need - but it takes a long time before my initial VM comes up and is configured
[20:47] <zero_shane> are there any pointers on how to force cloud-init configuration on *initial* package install to wire the datasoures - in an automated way - since this is not a "human involved" install process (eg the configure step in the packaging)
[22:02] <smoser> zero_shane, you can preseed that.
[22:02] <smoser> the key is cloud-init/datasources
[22:02] <smoser> its preseed like any other preseed is done.
[22:03] <zero_shane> smoser: thx for reply - in conf. call right now - will look at that in a short bit
[23:29] <zero_shane> smoser - I'm not seeing how I'd pass in a preseed to the vmbuilder build process? I see the default /etc/vmbuilder/*/*.tmpl template files ....
[23:30] <zero_shane> and can make changes there ... also (re)read through the docu I can find (https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html) but haven't found specifics on overrideing anything outside of those existing template files
[23:31] <zero_shane> I suppose I could *NOT* define cloud-init as a build-time package insall, and do that as a post-build task, then override the config, thus avoiding the 15 minute delay waiting on initial boot
[23:32] <zero_shane> but it'd be nice to figure out how to override this via vmbuilder directly
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-tn
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[08:55] <nabdev> o/
[09:19] <elacheche> o/
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-gnome
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[20:42] <johnjohn101> will the daily have 3.18 soon?
[21:33] <darkxst> johnjohn101, it already has most of 3.18, but the live session is broken currently, will try and fix that today
[21:36] <johnjohn101> darkxst: no rush, i'm enjoying 15.10 a lot. i'll try it when it's ready. do you think i should check back in a week?
[21:49] <darkxst> should be fixed in a couple of days
[21:58] <johnjohn101> thanks
[21:58] <johnjohn101> thanks for ubuntu gnome. it's nice
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-server
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[00:00] <RoyK> and possibly 587 and 993
[00:05] <RoyK> and 80/443 for web access and 7071 for admin access
[00:18] <grendal_prime> im just trying to get the install script to work...i cant even get it to resolve
[02:54] <window95> anyone know if possible to set up a twitter stream on my server? (that can be monitored through terminal)
[02:57] <sarnold> bitlbee is the usual answer but twitter does have an API available that you can probably call easily enough using event machine or libev or something similar
[03:03] <window95> excellent thanks going to look into this :]
[03:05] <teward> though their API will lock you out if you make a ton of calls
[03:05] <teward> (just keep that in mind)
[03:06] <window95> oh the thing i was looking at was RainbowStream i think its more meant for like Ubuntu or Mac OSX but am just trying to install it on a temp server to see how it all works
[03:07] <window95> i'm wondering if this RainbowStream would maybe overload the API too?
[03:07] <window95> it is not the one i HAVE to have, but just looked the easiest to install on first inspection. I'm going to look into this bitLbee too
[03:47] <grendal_prime> alright so basically i need to set up a dns server
[03:50] <grendal_prime> RoyK, i would really just like to install zimbra and try it out first but..i cannot get this thing to work
[03:50] <arooni> is it stupid to add my ssh user to the www-data group (that's used for nginx)? im messing around with wordpress files and i get tired of forgetting to open a vim editor as sudo.
[03:50] <arooni> well just did that and still i cant create new files with sudo even when in a directory where i have group rights
[03:50] <grendal_prime> dood
[03:51] <grendal_prime> set up a distributed key for your local user...
[03:53] <grendal_prime> who naturally owns those files?
[03:53] <Magic815> if i'm interested in getting a ZFS filesystem set up on Ubuntu server, what are some good articles/tutorials for me to take a look at? i'm new to Ubuntu, so the more noob friendly, the better :)
[03:53] <grendal_prime> zfs. is that mac?
[03:54] <grendal_prime> i just use ciffs for my fillers, everything understands it and its fast enough
[03:54] <Magic815> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS
[03:55] <Magic815> it's apparently a well regarded filesystem for servers
[03:55] <Magic815> FreeNAS uses it. apparently it can be used in Ubuntu as well
[03:56] <grendal_prime> hmmm ya i had a few bad experiences with off the wall file systems
[03:56] <grendal_prime> i dont know man...nothing im familar with. toughest fillers ive ever seen are netapps..
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> ZFS is hardly "off the wall"
[03:57] <grendal_prime> ok...good point
[03:57] <grendal_prime> im just uneduacted i guess..
[03:59] <grendal_prime> i build small fllers for power companies. I couple them with vpn concentrators. they have to work every day all day. and if they go down i have to have anther one ready. Ive never had more than 2 hours down time on a filer ever.
[04:01] <grendal_prime> I just have to go with what is easy to deal with and does the job.
[08:08] <theptr> Hi i want to backup my full vps i only have ssh access so no panel . u used rsync to backup everyhting to a local folder called backup . now i want to copy that folder over to my new server . Will that work
[08:08] <theptr> ?
[08:12] <qman__> theptr: yes, though you need to format the new partition(s) and reinstall the bootloader
[08:13] <qman__> And also make sure fstab is correct for the new setup
[08:13] <theptr> qman__, would there be an easyer way to migrate my mail server ?
[08:14] <qman__> Probably not, those steps are quite easy
[08:14] <qman__> Create new filesystem, rsync over, chroot in, grub-install, update fstab, reboot
[08:15] <theptr> qman__, Yeah so i change the /etc/netwok/interfaces file with the new one ? and overwrite everything and then i do grub , and fstab ?
[08:16] <qman__> Only need to update interfaces if he IP is changing
[08:16] <theptr> qman__, I hope everything goes smooth because there was a lot of work in that server .
[08:17] <theptr> qman__, yeah thats going to change because im going to change to an other vps provider.
[08:17] <qman__> If you have a problem with the network showing as eth1 instead of eth0, em /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:17] <qman__> rm
[08:22] <theptr> qman__, okay thanks
[09:34] <jamespage> coreycb, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-oslo.concurrency/+bug/1518016
[09:37] <jamespage> coreycb, we need to be real careful when upstream rev to a new point release like that - it indicates a bug or feature that is required
[09:37] <jamespage> we have a MRE for oslo packages so this should not be a problem
[10:14] <jamespage> arges, if you have 5 mins today - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/1518016
[10:14] <jamespage> is fairly urgent...
[10:14] <jamespage> missed during the last kilo update
[11:57] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:37] <coreycb> jamespage, ok. zul, see jamespage comment about the kilo release^
[12:47] <coreycb> jamespage, any idea where we store a list of MREs these days?
[12:51] <zul> coreycb: doh
[13:02] <coreycb> jamespage, I bumped oslo.concurrency to 1.8.2 in lp:~ubuntu-server-dev/nova/kilo. do you want to SRU that as well?
[13:03] <jamespage> coreycb, that might make sense
[13:04] <coreycb> jamespage, ok I'll upload it
[13:04] <jamespage> coreycb, make sure you raise a bug task for nova on that bug then
[13:04] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[13:08] <jamespage> coreycb, its really a common sense approach these days and is up to the SRU team
[13:08] <jamespage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#New_upstream_microreleases
[13:09] <jamespage> but we did have one - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions?action=recall&rev=59
[13:12] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks, I aslo asked pitti if there's still a list, in #ubuntu-devel
[13:12] <jamespage> coreycb, it was that ^^
[13:12] <jamespage> but was deprecated and deferred to the SRU team I think
[13:12] <coreycb> jamespage, I see
[13:13] <coreycb> arges, can you also review nova along with oslo.concurrency in the vivid upload queue?
[13:26] <Haris> hello all
[13:26] <coreycb> jamespage, ceilometer is in vivid-updates now, can you promote to trusty-kilo-updates?
[13:26] <Haris> what is multiple server install with MAAS ?
[13:33] <Haris> can I have maas and multiple servers installed on the same machine ?
[13:33] <Haris> stupid Q. but still asking
[13:36] <Haris> guys, anyone around ?
[13:39] <hateball> !patience
[13:44] <rbasak> Haris: try asking in #maas
[13:49] <Haris> why does ubuntu installer look for a cdrom, when I started install from usb ?
[13:50] <Haris> since it can't find an installation cd, its returned to the menu
[13:50] <Haris> I can't proceed witht the install
[13:51] <jrwren> it calls it a CD, but I think it really means apt file source. It might mean that it isn't able to mount your usb device?
[13:52] <Haris> I started the install from usb
[13:52] <jrwren> I think I had a similar issue recently, but in my case I was using a bad usb flash drive.
[13:52] <Haris> that's not the case here
[13:53] <Haris> it takes me to the installation process menu. where I'm stuck. since there's nothing to do with cd or cdrom
[13:53] <Haris> but it wants to detect and mount one
[13:55] <rbasak> Like jrwren says, when it says CD, it means CD or USB or from wherever else it can find the data.
[13:55] <Haris> there's nothing for me to do for this installation step. I'm just stuck
[13:55] <rbasak> The problem you need to solve is why it can't find the data, not that it's looking for a CD.
[13:55] <Haris> I created this bootable 14.04 lts usb from rufus on windows
[13:56] <Haris> from
[13:56] <Haris> ubuntu-14.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[13:58] <Haris> is tehre a debug/log window I can see errors on ? to get a clue on what went wrong
[13:58] <jrwren> alt-f1-8 toggle through various virtual terminals. One should have console output.
[13:59] <Haris> on alt-f4, it says
[13:59] <jrwren> root no password on any terminal and check /var/log/syslog too
[13:59] <Haris> searching for ubuntu installation media... devices /dev/sr0 /dev/sdb1 and then 3 lines with cdrom mount failed for sr0, sdb1
[14:03] <Haris> what other way can I prepare this usb for ubuntu install
[14:03] <Haris> such that it doesn't look for cdrom
[14:05] <Haris> why can it not find the data ?
[14:05] <jrwren> It will always look for cdrom. it also will always look for other disks. Ignore the cd rom search failures. They are a red herring
[14:06] <jrwren> what is mounted?
[14:06] <Haris> nothing. the box has just the usb I started install with
[14:06] <Haris> and a 1 tb hdd
[14:06] <jrwren> the boot process mounts things. Something must be mounted.
[14:07] <Haris> libc-udeb doesn't exist ?
[14:08] <Haris> it searches for ubuntu install media in sr0 and sdb1 and then tries to mount cdrom and that's it
[14:08] <Haris> with failure errors
[14:09] <jrwren> sdb1 sounds like your usb media. why did it fail to find that?
[14:09] <Haris> mount: mounting /dev/sdb1 on /cdrom failed: devices or resource busy
[14:09] <jrwren> what is mounted to /data ?
[14:10] <Haris> executed a shell. checked df output. there's no /data
[14:10] <Haris> executed a shell from ubuntu install process menu
[14:11] <jrwren> I'm not an installer expert. Sorry.
[14:16] <Haris> when using rufus to make ubuntu bootable usb, for install, should one use image mode or dd mode for preparing usb
[14:16] <Haris> I used image mode (default, recommended by rufus)
[14:19] <arges> coreycb: was off yesterday. Did those already get reviewed?
[14:19] <coreycb> arges, no, not yet
[14:20] <coreycb> arges, python-novaclient is also in the vivid queue if you can get to that. it's not as critical as the others though. they're all fairly trivial.
[14:29] <Haris> centos installer worked just fine off of usb. what's wrong with ubuntu 14.04 lts iso
[14:29] <Haris> or with the usb preperation for install
[14:46] <arges> coreycb: did you just re-upload nova?
[14:46] <arges> coreycb: and can you (or bryan) add SRU template to bug 1499510
[14:47] <coreycb> arges, no I just uploaded it once, but yeah I don't see the diff
[14:56] <arges> coreycb: i'll construct manually then
[14:57] <coreycb> arges, thanks. 1499510 is updated.
[14:59] <arges> coreycb++ thanks
[15:05] <arges> coreycb: ok should be all taken care of
[15:05] <coreycb> arges, thanks!
[15:13] <jamespage> coreycb, ceilometer promoted
[15:13] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[15:38] <jamespage> smoser, hey - any opinion on https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/simplestreams/multihypervisor/+merge/278127 ?
[15:39] <jamespage> I'm thinking we might want to have a flag to turn that on rather than it being the default....
[15:41] <smoser> seems reasonable
[15:41] <smoser> wrt flag, you're saying because as it is rignt now, this woudl start uploading lxc images ?
[15:44] <coreycb> jamespage, oslo.i18n is bumped to >=1.3.0 in the juno stable release, so I'll do that as part of the release
[15:45] <jamespage> coreycb, yuck but ok
[15:45] <jamespage> coreycb, thats 1.0.0 -> 1.3.0
[15:45] <jamespage> really?
[15:45] <coreycb> yeah
[15:45] <jamespage> coreycb, juno will go direct to UCA right?
[15:45] <coreycb> yes
[16:08] <Magic815> If I'm looking into setting up zfs on Ubuntu server, is http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html basically the main resource?
[16:09] <Magic815> Any other links worth my reading?
[16:33] <coreycb> jamespage, and oslo.utils was bumped to 1.4.0 in juno
[16:51] <jamespage> coreycb, lets dig into why that is
[16:55] <coreycb> jamespage, looks like a legitimate bug that affects i18n and utils, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.i18n/+bug/1492951
[16:56] <coreycb> although perhaps it doesn't affect us
[16:57] <coreycb> jamespage, I think you might need utils 1.4.0 and i18n < 1.3.0 to hit it
[17:08] <roaksoax> win 12
[17:08] <coreycb> jamespage, I don't think we need to bump our oslo's after looking some more. they were bumped due to gate issues with uncapped requirements which wouldn't affect us. bug 1446847
[17:09] <jamespage> coreycb, we need to check that we don't get plugin/endpoint loading issues like we got with ceilometer
[17:09] <jamespage> but yes Ithink you are correct
[23:42] <telldrak> Hello
[23:43] <telldrak> Looking for some assistance with getting Sendmail set up and configured properly for Ubuntu 14.04 on Digital Ocean.
[23:43] <telldrak> I have Apache2/MySQL/PHP5 running, and three domains hosted.
[23:43] <telldrak> Need to get mail working for two of them.
[23:44] <telldrak> I would appreciate any suggestions and resources you have to share
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[00:02] <robru> blam
[01:54] <popey> robru, whoever runs that bot might want to remove the colon after the url, some irc clients treat it as part of the url, so when you click it, it 404s
[02:02] <robru> popey: buggy irc client!
[05:52] <robru> popey: ^^ ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!?! :-P
[05:56] <robru> Incredible, translation updates push to trunk, invalidates all the silos. It's beautiful <3
[08:37] <mardy> trainguards, can we just force https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/591 to land somehow? The failures are intermittent, and apparently related to CI infra
[08:40] <robru> mardy: that's actually landed and would merge right now but there seems to be a train problem, I'm looking into it
[08:40] <mardy> robru: cool, thanks! :-)
[08:41] <Mirv> mardy: yes, it's now really landed.
[08:41] <Mirv> robru: not really a problem maybe, migrated 36 minutes ago, maybe just not updated yet?
[08:41] <Mirv> mardy: you can see it's now in release pocket https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/online-accounts-api
[08:41] <robru> Mirv: no there's a crazy traceback in the migration script: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/check-publication-migration/27122/console
[08:41] <mardy> Mirv, robru: but trunk is not updated, is it?
[08:43] <mardy> (the MP doesn't appear to be merged)
[08:45] <robru> mardy: no the train is broken, I'm working on it.
[08:46] <mardy> robru: good luck :-)
[08:47] <Mirv> mardy: yes, it'd be normally right after it migrates, and the ticket would show "Landed"
[08:48] <Mirv> mardy: we could force it now that there are no proposed migration problems, but I assume robru is wanting to fix it for real so let's wait a bit
[08:48] <robru> mardy: thanks, this one is weird.
[08:48] <robru> mardy: yeah are you blocked on this? we can force merge if you're in a hurry but I'd like to fix it proper and see it be fixed before I go to bed
[08:49] <mardy> robru, Mirv: no hurry, better fix it once and for all, if possible :-)
[08:49] <jibel> robru, can you remove the 'request autopkgtest' button from bileto until it is functional?
[08:49] <jibel> it is just confusing and link to the build artifacts are lost
[08:49] <robru> jibel: can people not be trusted not to click it? :-/
[08:50] <jibel> robru, no they don't
[08:51] <jibel> sil2100, is the changes bot running?
[08:51] <sil2100> Not if the instance went down again... let me check
[08:52] <sil2100> eh, can't log in as chinstrap is still down, need VPN, one moment
[08:55] <robru> mardy: Mirv: ok fix in trunk, will hit production in ~20 and then we can try this again
[08:56] <robru> jibel: seems nobody clicked it since the last time I cleared it out...
[08:58] <robru> sil2100: Mirv: btw if somebody clicks that 'request autopkgtest' button and then they want to give up on it (stop watching for results) you can do that by: rm -vrf ~/silos/*/*/*_autopkgtest
[09:07] <sil2100> robru: ACK
[09:07] <sil2100> jibel: ok, looks like it works
[09:07] <sil2100> jibel: the job runs every 30 minutes so maybe it had a delay or something
[09:11] <Mirv> robru: thanks!
[09:12] <robru> well technically what I said would clear it for *all* silos but there aren't any silos that are using this currently so it's a minor difference.
[09:13] <Mirv> robru: wasn't the force merge supposed to still be there for trainguards? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-042-3-merge-clean/build?delay=0sec
[09:14] <robru> Mirv: it's always forced now, because only trainguards can run it, and the non-force was completely redundant
[09:15] <Mirv> robru: makes sense, then there's another problem with that since it failed, maybe because I just removed one MP from there
[09:15] <robru> Mirv: (the failure you got is the same one that bit mardy, fix will hit production in 2 minutes)
[09:17] <Mirv> robru: ah... great
[09:17] <robru> Mirv: why are you merging 42? one of the packages isn't at dest...
[09:18] <robru> mardy: https://code.launchpad.net/~online-accounts/online-accounts-api/trunk done
[09:18] <robru> sorry for the hassle
[09:19] <robru> Mirv: it'll work now anyway, confirmed ^^
[09:19] <mardy> robru: my hero! Thanks!! :-)
[09:19] <Mirv> robru: because unity-lens-music will go to another landing
[09:19] <Mirv> robru: it was added after it was published
[09:19] <robru> mardy: you're welcome
[09:19] <robru> Mirv: weird, ok
[09:20] <Mirv> robru: mzanetti and me can't find anything that has new commits in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/621
[09:20] <Mirv> https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/ubuntuanimations/+merge/276511 has one commit on the day of the build, but that's also in the sources
[09:20] <Mirv> mzanetti: maybe someone uncommitted again something and push --overwrite:d?
[09:21] <robru> Mirv: mzanetti: the new commit is on trunk. you can discover this by clicking 'status' and scrolling down to the part where it checks your silo, it will list the URL that has new commits.
[09:21] <mzanetti> on trunk... dafuq...
[09:21] * mzanetti looks
[09:21] <Mirv> robru: Status is a link!!! :D sorry...
[09:22] <robru> Mirv: everything orange is clickable.
[09:22] <Mirv> yeah, I know, I just had skipped that somehow
[09:22] <Mirv> robru: ah, many trunks get translation updates all the time
[09:22] <robru> Mirv: it's a bit unfortunate in this case as the migration script has one log for all silos, so you have to scroll literally to the bottom to find silo 60
[09:23] <Mirv> robru: that's alright
[09:23] <robru> Mirv: yeah this is a bit iffy. I added this check for the case when a conflicting silo finally merges, so you know to rebuild to incorporate the conflict. translations throws a wrench in that though
[09:25] <robru> Mirv: I suppose I'll have to work out a way so that it only sets the status if the new commits are not translation commits, but that seems a bit hard & slow (so in addition to iterating over every MP in every silo I'd also have to iterate on every commit in every branch in every silo to make sure the new ones are only translations).
[09:25] <Mirv> that's slow yes
[09:25] <robru> sigh, I need to file some bugs
[09:31] <mzanetti> robru, can it be that it complains about the launchpad translation commits?
[09:31] <robru> mzanetti: yes
[09:31] <Mirv> mzanetti: that's what we just discussed
[09:31] <Mirv> mzanetti: I'll publish the silo manually copying, since they're all universe packages
[09:31] <mzanetti> oh, sorry
[09:32] <mzanetti> Mirv, I guess we can revert the translation commit, lp should redo it tonight then...
[09:32] <robru> Mirv: try publish job? I think it should work
[09:32] <mzanetti> Mirv, whatever you think it's easier
[09:32] <Mirv> robru: bad state https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-060-2-publish/8/console
[09:32] <robru> ah
[09:34] <Mirv> mzanetti: ah damn, unity-api is actually in main :(
[09:34] <Mirv> mzanetti: just means I need that one copied by someone else
[09:35] <mzanetti> please stop scaring the sh*t out of me :D
[09:35] <sil2100> Mirv: sorry! I MIRed it recently ;p
[09:36] <Mirv> sil2100: damn you! :)
[09:37] <Mirv> mzanetti: 060 is already published to vivid overlay now :) just waiting for a core-dev to copy unity-api to xenial, I copied the other two
[09:39] <mzanetti> thanks a bunch Mirv
[09:42] <Mirv> mzanetti: ok seb128 helped us, let's keep the silo until we see that proposed migration happens in xenial. but it's now there too.
[09:44] <mzanetti> Mirv, and again, tanks a lot :)
[09:45] <robru> Mirv: migration script starts in a minute, will take 20 minutes to update the status for silo 60 tho
[09:45] <seb128> jibel, I think that comment saying that indicator-datetime is not translated is probably the uitk template/timestamps strings not being translated
[09:50] <Trevinho> Mirv: added new silo, but generated changelog is so wrong.... https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-042/+packages :-(
[09:53] <robru> Trevinho: what's wrong with it? looks actually reasonable to me
[09:53] <Trevinho> robru: oh, i maybe see the reason... It uses https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-lens-music/saucy as base
[09:53] <Trevinho> robru: it's wrong since he only change should be the icon change
[09:54] <Trevinho> this is suspicious -Vcs-Bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-lens-music/trunk
[09:54] <Trevinho> +Vcs-Bzr: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-lens-music/saucy
[09:54] <robru> Trevinho: yup, pointing your MP at saucy would cause a goofy changelog
[09:54] <Trevinho> yeah.... it was proposed to the wrong branch ./
[09:55] <robru> Trevinho: no big deal then, repropose and rebuild
[09:57] <mzanetti> Mirv, should it have merged the code by now?
[09:58] <robru> mzanetti: no, it *just* published. it's so new the train hasn't even noticed it's published yet
[09:58] <mzanetti> heh, ok
[09:58] <robru> mzanetti: it'll sit in proposed for a bit, the ticket status will show 'Proposed pocket' for a while, then it'll merge some hours later
[09:58] <mzanetti> right
[10:00] <xavigarcia> rvr: Hi there
[10:00] <xavigarcia> rvr: silo 51 is again ready to QA... I've fixed the issues you found on the warning dialog and I've also updated the test plan
[10:01] <rvr> xavigarcia: Yeah, I saw it, thanks
[10:01] <xavigarcia> rvr: np
[10:04] <Mirv> mzanetti: proposed migration
[10:05] <Mirv> mzanetti: hours at minimum, then check http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#unity8 if it's stuck for real
[10:05] <Mirv> mzanetti: it's not wanted that stuff gets thrown to xenial and forgotten, therefore we wait for the migration tests
[10:12] <Trevinho> robru: it's still wrong... :(
[10:15] <robru> Trevinho: look at thebranches, they're different.
[10:15] <Trevinho> mh
[10:15] * Trevinho should rebase...
[10:15] <robru> Trevinho: I duno what branch you started with but it doesn't look like the trusty branch
[10:15] <Trevinho> yeah, it wasn't a my branch... So you're right
[10:16] <robru> Trevinho: hm they match at commit 148, so 149 is this anomalous commit, not sure where that came from 2 years ago
[10:17] <robru> Trevinho: also double-check the bzr tags. that's how the train generates the changelog. it looks for the most recent bzr tag on the branch and includes everything after that in the changelog, so find the most recent release commit and tag it with the version number of that release, should stop the train from including anything older than that in the log
[10:18] <Trevinho> ok
[10:21] <robru> Mirv: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/silo/060 crap, it won't auto-merge as long as that 'needs rebuild' is in there.
[10:22] <robru> Mirv: might have to merge it manually... or delete the translation commit ;-)
[10:33] <Mirv> robru: ah right. well I'll merge it manually once migration is done
[10:34] <robru> Mirv: sorry about that, as usual corner cases ruin a brilliant plan
[10:38] <Mirv> robru: :) heh, but eventually that brilliant plan works! like these auto-updating statuses and everything that is now there.
[10:39] <robru> Mirv: yeah that's slick. it's about to get slicker, too. I'm parallelizing it so a) it's way faster and b) when you click Status you only see the log for the request you clicked on, don't have to search through all silo.
[11:19] <rvr> pstolowski: ping
[11:21] <pstolowski> rvr, pong
[11:22] <rvr> pstolowski: I think silo 60 already landed
[11:22] <pstolowski> rvr, great, that means i can rebuild the other one
[11:23] <pstolowski> rvr, nope, not merged yet
[11:24] <rvr> Oh
[11:40] <jibel> xavigarcia, about silo 51 when the phone rings it's a bit weird to see the volume notification with label 'headphone' then the notification again with the label 'speaker' when the call ends. Is it really the expected behaviour?
[11:40] <jibel> rvr, ^ did you see that too last time you tested this silo?
[11:43] <xavigarcia> jibel: not sure about that... I should ask design.. But it looks a bit weird... yeah
[11:46] <Mirv> pstolowski: rvr: unity8 is still in xenial-proposed, so no merging
[11:58] <rvr> jibel: Nope, I do not remember that problem
[12:01] <jibel> rvr, xavigarcia ok, silo blocked until you have a confirmation
[12:04] <xavigarcia> jibel: ack
[12:08] <popey> The twitter scope, is it in the store or only on the image?
[12:08] <popey> asking for a friend :)
[12:08] <jibel> xavigarcia, about silo 6 indicator-location when is the indicator supposed to be removed from the panel? currently it is removed when the user turns GPS off, it should be when location is switched off, or like the spec says after 5 min without an access to the location service.
[12:09] <jibel> ?
[12:10] <xavigarcia> jibel: Following the specs stated in the bug it should not appear
[12:10] <xavigarcia> jibel: And GPS is controlled from the settings
[12:10] <xavigarcia> jibel: that's what I understood
[12:11] <jibel> xavigarcia, okay, I double check and confirm in a minute
[12:12] <xavigarcia> jibel: https://docs.google.com/document/edit?hgd=1&id=1810KDpFl2Mxsn1z3wehPU9pkbS6R6o-j1-pmYpkYb7A#
[12:12] <bzoltan_> jibel: Mirv: the silo10 has the corrected UITK translation files. No code changes
[12:16] <Mirv> bzoltan_: looks correct
[12:16] <Mirv> both .pot + .po:s
[12:19] <jibel> xavigarcia_lunch, actually both location detection and gps must be switched off to remove the icon from the panel. Given that there is only one switch left in the indicator, switching it off should be enough to remove the icon, isn't it?
[12:20] <jibel> bzoltan_, thanks, I trust you checked every single string for invalid characters? :)
[12:20] <xavigarcia_lunch> jibel: mmm, I guess so... and it's not doing it, right?
[12:20] <jibel> xavigarcia_lunch, nope
[12:21] <jibel> xavigarcia_lunch, you must disable location detection and gps from system settings
[12:21] <xavigarcia_lunch> jibel: ok.... will fix it then. Thanks for finding out
[12:21] <pete-woods> trainguards: hi guys. got a silo for indicator-network that switches out our vendored menu harness for the newly packaged gmenuharness
[12:21] <pete-woods> needs a packaging ack: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-038-2-publish/18/artifact/indicator-network_content.diff
[12:21] <pete-woods> thanks to anyone with spare cycles to have a look
[12:21] <jibel> xavigarcia_lunch, yw, design should also clarified the spec on this specific point.
[12:21] <xavigarcia_lunch> jibel: yeah
[12:22] <pete-woods> whoops, better diff (https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-038-2-publish/18/artifact/indicator-network_packaging_changes.diff)
[12:22] <xavigarcia_lunch> jibel: I wil ping them before pushing anything, to confirn
[12:22] <jibel> xavigarcia_lunch, thanks
[12:22] <xavigarcia_lunch> jibel: np
[12:26] <bzoltan_> jibel: No I did not. I would lie if I would say that I have checked 5594 strings. but I have checked those what were messed up yesterday
[12:27] <Mirv> pete-woods: how switching libraries would not require QA, or is that the same identical code now separated to own package?
[12:29] <jibel> bzoltan_, np :) approved
[12:30] <bzoltan_> jibel: thanks.. it was a lame bug. I will never trust chromium browser again... vi rules
[12:31] <jibel> bzoltan_, heh, sorry we missed it too
[12:31] <jibel> or found too late
[12:32] <abeato> Mirv, I need to upload http://people.canonical.com/~abeato/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/ to silo 9 :)
[12:38] <pete-woods> Mirv: the lib is only used in the test suite, the indicator doesn't get affected at all
[12:38] <pete-woods> it's a library a bit like autopilot
[12:38] <pete-woods> but for gmenus
[12:39] <pete-woods> we just want to use the same lib across all the indicators, rather than copying
[12:39] <Mirv> abeato: ok
[12:39] <Mirv> pete-woods: ok
[12:39] <Mirv> ok ok
[12:40] <abeato> Mirv, ok thanks
[12:40] <Mirv> abeato: how's the upstreaming faring with Jim + Yoann? you should probably divide the upstreaming work between you two and offload as much as possible to Yoann
[12:41] <abeato> Mirv, I think Jim already synced with upstream, this upload is for something wrong we noticed, I'll sync back with jhodapp once he is around
[12:42] <Mirv> abeato: no, there is zero upstreaming work done: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/q/project:qt/qtmultimedia,n,z so far
[12:43] <Mirv> abeato: the current qtmultimedia that is shipping in our overlay is diverged from the July upstream commit and has new features that are not in upstream, so the plan is 1. you get it working, 2. you upstream all new features, 3. you drop the current qtmultimedia API you have and replace with what is in upstream.
[12:43] <abeato> Mirv, ok, didn't really know the status, as is Jim the one handling this
[12:43] <Mirv> abeato: bug #1514344 is to follow it. ok. I just occasionally ask since we're basically walking on a thin line by shipping something that is actually rejected by upstream, and just hoping no-one starts to use the API in our stable release since it will be dropped.
[12:44] <Mirv> abeato: anyway, uploaded to the PPA since we've agreed this is the situation currently
[12:44] <abeato> Mirv, understood, I agree with the plan too
[12:46] <anpok_> cihelp: there seems to be a problem with unity-system-compositor-cir -> unity-system-compositor-xenial-amd-ci has problems with pbuilder
[12:46] <anpok_> http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-system-compositor-xenial-amd64-ci/5/console
[12:48] <pete-woods> Mirv: thanks! :)
[12:52] <Mirv> pete-woods: yw!
[12:54] <bzoltan_> jibel: it would be fun to make a simple script to test if the strings are sensible.
[12:55] <jibel> bzoltan_, sure, if you find a definition of 'sensible string'
[12:55] <jibel> it can be anything
[12:56] <bzoltan_> jibel: I will think about it.. I have an idea
[13:02] <jibel> kenvandine, there are at least 2 problems with the custom ringtones silos: 1. custom sound is removed from the list when user selects another sound, 2. The custom sound is also available in message notifications
[13:02] <jibel> kenvandine, also I noticed that 'Alarm Clock' is the first ringtone, is it expected?
[13:03] <jibel> note that this last point has nothing to do with the silo
[13:03] <kenvandine> it's alphabetical
[13:03] <jibel> kenvandine, yeah, but is it expect to have alarm clock as a ringtone ?
[13:03] <kenvandine> also, the design calls for the custom ringtone to be removed
[13:04] <kenvandine> jibel: i don't know if anyone thought about that, but it's in the directory with all the ringtones
[13:05] <kenvandine> jibel: good point on the ringtone showing up under messages
[13:05] <kenvandine> i'll fix that
[13:07] <jibel> kenvandine, it's a really annoying to remove it. custom background are not removed when the user picks another one
[13:07] <kenvandine> yeah, we don't have a design for managing them
[13:07] <kenvandine> the design is quite simplistic
[13:07] <kenvandine> it'll evolve though
[13:08] <kenvandine> we'll eventually add a loop selector, so you can select a clip from a song to repeat
[13:08] <jibel> kenvandine, we could keep one at least and replace it when the user selects a different custom sound
[13:08] <kenvandine> when we work on that i'll push design to do something about managing custom ringtones
[13:08] <kenvandine> jibel: we could, but that would require a lot of refactoring of the panel
[13:09] <kenvandine> not UI
[13:09] <kenvandine> just implementation
[13:09] <kenvandine> and the way we maintain the list
[13:09] <kenvandine> jibel: which we'll need to do when we add the loop stuff
[13:13] <kenvandine> jibel: i just pushed a fix for the ringtone showing up in the messages lists, rebuilding silo now
[13:15] <seb128> jibel, kenvandine, I think the alarm clock one is there because we don't have a directory specific for the clock/reminder
[13:16] <seb128> we only have ringtones and messages
[13:18] <rvr> Mirv: ping
[13:19] <jibel> seb128, okay, it's just a bit odd.
[13:20] <seb128> jibel, agree, we would need to a separate set of sounds for alarm&reminders
[13:20] <seb128> seems like a valid request for design
[13:20] <jibel> seb128, I'll file a bug
[13:20] <seb128> thanks
[13:42] <pstolowski> rvr, silo 14 rebuilt and looks good, ready for qa
[13:45] <jibel> pstolowski, thanks, unblocked
[13:53] <jhodapp> Mirv, zero is definitely not true, most of it is upstreamed
[13:54] <jhodapp> Mirv, we've backported our qdeclarativeplaylist API to the 5.7 dev API upstream...so now there's just a tiny bit that needs upstreaming that's not part of an API
[13:55] <tvoss> sil2100, around?
[14:25] <davmor2> sil2100, jibel, morphis: Finally the bluez5 silos are ready to land sil2100 can you spin up an image once they do please
[14:26] <abeato> davmor2, morphis \o/
[14:27] <abeato> morphis, well done :)
[14:27] <davmor2> sil2100: can you give me a ping once the image builds then please then I need to test across all four devices
[14:27] <morphis> YEAH!!!!
[14:32] <jibel> davmor2, great, lets celebrate \o/
[14:35] <pmcgowan> oh my
[14:39] <davmor2> pmcgowan: it's only taken a week of debugging and morphis patiently fixing to get it landed \o/
[14:39] <pmcgowan> well done morphis and davmor2
[14:39] <morphis> pmcgowan: thanks
[14:39] <morphis> pmcgowan: but be prepared... the suspend issue you discovered will be still there on arale :)
[14:41] <pmcgowan> morphis, oh thats not good
[14:41] <pmcgowan> enjoying my current battery life
[14:42] <morphis> pmcgowan: we need to land this big thing first
[14:42] <morphis> but investigation on the suspend issue is ongoing
[14:44] <Mirv> jhodapp: abeato: I meant that there are no commits in upstream since August. thanks for adapting to the Source -> Items though, that's a big win! but also addItems and moveItem are in API and not in upstream. plus then any bugfixes of course.
[14:44] <jhodapp> Mirv, yep, I'll be working on the last bits of that today
[14:44] <jhodapp> Mirv, upstreaming
[14:47] <morphis> sil2100: when there are any problems merging all three silos please ping me
[14:49] <jhodapp> sil2100, hey I heard you maintain ubuntu-touch-meta? It has a media-hub dependency on version 3 and silo 9 is going to land version 4, so its dependency needs updating
[14:51] * popey joins the queue for sil2100
[14:51] <popey> sil2100, is there a plan to have a mid-way fix between OTA-8 and OTA-9?
[14:51] <popey> or am I dreaming?
[14:52] <popey> pmcgowan, ^ maybe you know actually
[14:52] <Mirv> jhodapp: excellent, the silo 009 is a result of long hard work but OTA-9 will basically resolve then ~everything
[14:53] <Mirv> morphis: davmor2: 2/3 silos published, 043 needs core dev
[14:53] <pmcgowan> popey, we are considering it yes
[14:53] <jhodapp> Mirv, yes indeed, and thanks!
[14:53] <popey> k
[14:53] <popey> 25/12/2015? :)
[14:53] <pmcgowan> popey, for special fixes
[14:53] <pmcgowan> yeah
[14:53] <popey> oh, not for general landings?
[14:54] <pmcgowan> no
[14:54] <pmcgowan> just cherry icks
[14:54] <pmcgowan> picks
[14:54] <popey> okay. ahayzen jhodapp ^
[14:54] <popey> we were wondering about the media stuff
[14:54] <ahayzen> popey, no we were saying will there be a framework bump for OTA9
[14:54] <jhodapp> popey, I'm fine with it going out with OTA9
[14:54] <popey> oh
[14:55] <ahayzen> popey, or are you asking multiple questions? ;-)
[14:55] <popey> i misunderstood, fair enough
[14:55] <popey> maybe, yes, that
[14:55] <popey> ahem
[14:56] <ahayzen> otherwise we'll end up with the usual situation of people on OTA8 trying to run a music-app that won't run due to media-hub/mediascanner2 changes in OTA9 etc
[14:58] <morphis> Mirv: wow
[14:58] <morphis> Mirv: anyone we can ping to get this done now?
[14:58] <Mirv> morphis: on #ubuntu-devel, I'll ask
[14:59] <morphis> Mirv: thanks
[15:02] <sil2100> jhodapp: on it! Sorry, I had some visitors ;)
[15:02] <jhodapp> sil2100, awesome thank you!
[15:02] <jhodapp> sil2100, you can put that into silo 9 with our changes if desired
[15:09] <dobey> kenvandine: hey, can i bug you for a packaging ack? :)
[15:09] <davmor2> sil2100: what kinda excuse is that???
[15:11] <sil2100> davmor2: a good one!
[15:12] <davmor2> sil2100: who would you normally pick on core dev wise for landing like 43?
[15:15] <kenvandine> dobey, in a few :)
[15:17] <sil2100> hmmm
[15:17] <sil2100> cyphermox, kenvandine: hey guys! I would need someone to publish the bluez silo (silo 43)
[15:23] <cyphermox> sil2100: ok
[15:23] <sil2100> jhodapp: hey, I'll prepare the seed change locally and upload once you release the package - reason is that we're about to land the bluez silo which already has ubuntu-touch-meta
[15:23] <jhodapp> sil2100, let me know when you've pushed the change to ubuntu-touch-meta and I'll make sure that media-hub*3 can be removed without breaking things
[15:23] <sil2100> So we'll have to re-build
[15:24] <jhodapp> sil2100, lol good timing :)
[15:24] <sil2100> jhodapp: yeah ;) Well, I could upload, but that would be pointless as we'll have to rebuild anyway
[15:24] <jhodapp> sil2100, so is that an issue, because like I said we'll have media-hub 3 and 4 installed then
[15:24] <sil2100> jhodapp: well, once you land it, I can publish the seed change before the new media-hub gets into an image
[15:25] <jhodapp> ah perfect, ok
[15:25] <jhodapp> that's a good plan then
[15:25] <kenvandine> dobey, link for the packaging ack?
[15:26] <dobey> kenvandine: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/668 is the silo
[15:26] <dobey> the request
[15:29] <davmor2> cyphermox: \o/ thanks dude
[15:33] <tvoss> sil2100, hey there :) could you cancel the outstanding builds for powerpc for https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-021/+packages
[15:33] <tvoss> sil2100, they will fail and I'm tired of waiting
[15:33] <sil2100> tvoss: sure, ok
[15:34] <sil2100> tvoss: cancelled ;)
[15:34] <tvoss> sil2100, thank you
[15:35] <jhodapp> jibel, background playlists are ready for testing, it should show up in the QA Trello board shortly (silo 9)
[15:35] <jhodapp> jibel, let me or abeato know if there's any questions
[15:36] <kenvandine> dobey, good to go, should i publish?
[15:38] <dobey> kenvandine: yes please. thanks!
[15:40] <cjwatson> tvoss: I'm sorry about the wait. Somebody (*glares at suspect*) put all the builders on manual without telling us about it or explaining why.
[15:40] <tvoss> cjwatson, no worries :)
[15:54] <tvoss> sil2100, I would appreciate a review here: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/location-service/enable-dual-landing/+merge/278143
[15:56] <sil2100> tvoss: looking after the meeting :)
[16:23] <morphis> robru, sil2100, Mirv: you saw the discussion around version numbers in #ubuntu-devel?
[16:26] <xavigarcia> jibel: Hi there, I've already talked to design and we agreed that when switching off the Location switch it will make hide the location icon
[16:26] <xavigarcia> jibel: silo 6 shoud be again ready with that change
[16:27] <xavigarcia> jibel: there is a 5 minute delay showing the icon that is not clear yet, they already added a note to the specs stating that
[17:03] <jdstrand> sil2100, pmcgowan: when did we start shipping 15.10 frameworks on the device? I see the folloing on mako:
[17:03] <jdstrand> $ ls -1 /usr/share/click/frameworks/*15.10*
[17:03] <jdstrand> /usr/share/click/frameworks/ubuntu-sdk-15.10-dev1.framework
[17:03] <jdstrand> /usr/share/click/frameworks/ubuntu-sdk-15.10-html-dev1.framework
[17:03] <jdstrand> /usr/share/click/frameworks/ubuntu-sdk-15.10-papi-dev1.framework
[17:03] <jdstrand> /usr/share/click/frameworks/ubuntu-sdk-15.10-qml-dev1.framework
[17:04] <jdstrand> I find this very confusing. how can a 15.04 stable system have 15.10 frameworks?
[17:04] <pmcgowan> jdstrand, it shouldnt we should have removed that
[17:04] <jdstrand> (not to mention, click-apparmor in the overlay doesn't know what to do with them, so if an app targeted it, it would blow up)
[17:04] <jdstrand> ok, good
[17:04] <jdstrand> well, for some definition of good
[17:05] <pmcgowan> sil2100, we were supposed to take thse out when we went to 15.04.1
[17:05] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: shall I file a bug?
[17:05] <pmcgowan> jdstrand, yes please
[17:07] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/ubuntu-touch-meta/+bug/1518393
[17:40] <sil2100> pmcgowan: will remove those as well, yeah...
[17:41] <robru> morphis: I saw mention of version numbers but I didn't follow what the problem was our what the desired behavior was. Please file a bug against lp:cupstream2distro explaining it in detail
[17:42] <davmor2> sil2100: if all the bluez5 stuff landed are you able to spin up a new image please, not sure if you got my earlier request
[17:46] <pmcgowan> sil2100, they are ok on xenial but not on vivid overlay
[17:54] <sil2100> davmor2: looks landed indeed, checking if everything is published and I'll kick an image now
[17:54] <sil2100> pmcgowan: yeah, not sure how those ended up in our vivid seeds, maybe I copied them over by accident
[17:55] <davmor2> sil2100: blame the Spanish inquisition nobody will expect that ;)d
[17:56] <sil2100> It's building now :)
[17:59] <davmor2> sil2100: \o/
[18:31] <robru> hmmmmm
[18:33] <robru> kenvandine: do you know what's going on with https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/54 ? seems an old landing, not sure what happened there...
[18:34] <kenvandine> robru, oh... that wasn't supposed to be merged
[18:34] <kenvandine> it was an experimental silo
[18:34] <robru> kenvandine: yeah I don't know why the train is trying to merge it, since it's not landed.
[18:34] <robru> unless the version numbers match or something...
[18:34] <kenvandine> robru, can i edit the silo then kick a rebuild?
[18:35] <kenvandine> it's still useful for us
[18:35] <robru> kenvandine: yeah
[18:37] <robru> kenvandine: oh, haha, false alarm. it wasn't trying to merge it, there's just a bug causing the error to *say* merge&clean.
[18:38] <kenvandine> robru, good
[18:39] <robru> kenvandine: side effect of sloppy imports. the 'X failed:' prefix for exception messages is set at import time rather than runtime and the merging code gets *imported* in that script so it uses that prefix on exceptions
[18:43] <robru> kenvandine: you can force build to overcome that ^
[18:51] <kenvandine> robru, thx
[18:52] <robru> kenvandine: you're welcome
[18:57] <fginther> anpok, I'm looking at the unity-system-compositor problem you reported. If I find the fix, I'll rebuild that MP
[18:59] <anpok> thx!
[19:11] <fginther> anpok, it looks like this build was triggered from a manual rebuild. Is that correct?
[19:16] <anpok> yes
[19:28] <fginther> anpok, thanks for confirming. The build parameters appeared to have been set from when the job was configured to build for wily and it caused problems when building under xenial. I've retriggered a new build with 'local_archive_pocket' set to xenial. That should work, but will monitor it to make sure.
[19:28] <anpok> oh
[19:28] <anpok> ah.. right the build failure back then was still with a wily setup..
[19:29] <anpok> thx
[19:30] <fginther> anpok, you're welcome, sorry that this detail handled more intuitively
[19:30] <fginther> *isn't* handled more intuitively
[19:57] <boiko> rvr: hi, I just need to rebuild telepathy-ofono on silo 25 to include the fixes that just got merged from silo 52
[19:58] <boiko> rvr: as it is only bluetooth device names, shouldn't interfere with the tests already done
[20:22] <dobey> trainguards: can someone retry a few builds for me?
[20:22] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-015/+build/8324821
[20:23] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-015/+build/8271658
[20:23] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-015/+build/8271661
[20:23] <dobey> thanks
[20:23] <robru> dobey: on it
[20:31] <rvr> boiko: ok
[20:54] <popey> ToyKeeper, thanks for testing music - seems I made a mistake and gave you the wrong click, have updated the citrain and trello card accordingly!
[20:54] <popey> (this fixes the issue you identiied)
[20:54] <popey> *identified
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-si
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[04:26] <upd> !logs
[04:26] <upd> !help
[04:26] <upd> .help
[05:46] <zdobbie> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUOcuVBVEAADn7I.jpg
[07:01] <napsy> JUTRO
[07:01] <napsy> jutro
[07:02] <zdobersek> HEYA
[07:20] <slax0r> jutro
[07:21] <slax0r> MC_saban: :)
[07:25] <upd> slax0r, !
[07:25] <upd> i need you
[07:28] <slax0r> me? :O
[07:37] <slax0r> a se da kak z apt-install/apt-cache/apt-whatever preverit koliko prostora bo zasedel installiran paket?
[09:07] <CrazyLemon> stupid disk failure
[09:08] <CrazyLemon> Spremembe za različice ubuntu-sdk-dev:
[09:08] <CrazyLemon> Nameščena različica: None
[09:08] <CrazyLemon> Razpoložljiva različica: 3.5.0+15.10.20151024-0ubuntu1~97+201511170914~ubuntu14.04.1
[09:08] <CrazyLemon> zakaj mi ubuntu updejta nekaj kar nimam nameščeno?
[09:09] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: virtul package
[09:10] <CrazyLemon> Spremembe za različice unity8:
[09:10] <CrazyLemon> Nameščena različica: None
[09:10] <CrazyLemon> Razpoložljiva različica: 7.85+14.04.20140416-0ubuntu1
[09:10] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny also virtual package ^?
[09:10] <dz0ny> mhm
[09:11] <CrazyLemon> torej je danes virtual package day?
[09:11] <CrazyLemon> ker je tko cca. 90% paketov :D
[09:11] <dz0ny> k lahko nardiš upgrade virtual paketa
[09:11] <dz0ny> pa kateri se morjo namestit
[09:12] <dz0ny> apt gui je mal butas pa pol napiše upgrade :)
[09:12] <Sky[x]> lp
[09:12] <CrazyLemon> zakaj pa potrebujem ubuntu-mobile-icons?
[09:12] <CrazyLemon> mislim..vse je to butast
[09:12] <CrazyLemon> ker nism nič mel nameščeno
[09:12] <CrazyLemon> virtual or not
[09:12] <zdobersek> u goin mobile now
[09:13] <CrazyLemon> ubuntu-touch-sounds ...
[09:13] <CrazyLemon> wth
[09:14] <dz0ny> neki si že mel :)
[09:14] <dz0ny> it's called unity :D
[09:14] <dz0ny> unite :)
[09:16] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny jabuk is still down down down
[09:17] <zdobbie> http://labs.detectify.com/post/133528218381/chrome-extensions-aka-total-absence-of-privacy
[09:17] <Pepelka> Detectify Labs
[09:17] <Pepelka> »TL;DR, Popular Google Chrome extensions are constantly tracking you per default, making it very difficult or impossible for you to opt-out. These extensions will receive your complete browsing...«
[09:18] <jabuk> M 2.6 > 16.km JZ od OBREŽJA @20/11/2015 06:14:48 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.73+N,+15.6+E
[09:21] <CrazyMelon> stupid zdobbie
[09:21] <CrazyMelon> tvoj link froze my ubuntu
[09:22] <zdobersek> rrrrekt
[09:24] <CrazyMelon> ok..klikam še enkrat
[09:25] <CrazyMelon> nope..good this time
[09:26] <zdobersek> click it again!
[09:27] <CrazyMelon> ok
[09:28] <CrazyMelon> nope :(
[09:30] <dz0ny> haha
[09:30] <dz0ny> unity crap
[09:30] <dz0ny> nimam nič proti ui, sam compiz je crap
[09:31] <CrazyMelon> yup..hence unity8!
[09:34] <napsy> a ta unity 8 pa mir se se razvijata?
[09:36] <CrazyMelon> of course!
[09:36] <CrazyMelon> enkrat 2020 bo available!
[09:36] <napsy> aja
[09:36] <napsy> a niso skensla mir razvoj pa pristal na wayland?
[09:37] <zdobbie> nope
[09:41] <CrazyMelon> .stran thehackernews.com
[09:41] <jabuk> thehackernews.com je dosegljiva!
[09:41] <CrazyMelon> no https? wtf
[09:42] <zdobersek> a https://news.ycombinator.com/ isces
[09:42] <Pepelka> Hacker News
[09:43] <CrazyMelon> dont be silly..those are not hacker news
[09:43] <CrazyMelon> just look at the domain
[09:44] <zdobersek> allllllrighty then
[09:44] <dz0ny> 16.10 pravjo da bo by default
[09:44] <dz0ny> +mir
[09:45] <dz0ny> +snappy
[09:45] <dz0ny> +gnome web store
[09:45] <napsy> to bo tak fail
[09:45] <zdobersek> gnome?
[09:45] <slax0r> mir? ruska postaja mir?
[09:45] <dz0ny> haha
[09:46] <dz0ny> zdobersek: apt bodo vn vrgli
[09:46] <dz0ny> in pol ma gnome "store" ki podpira več backendov
[09:46] <zdobersek> ja, to razumem
[09:46] <dz0ny> in zdej pišej snappy one
[09:47] <CrazyMelon> dz0ny gnome web store bo že v 16.04
[09:47] <CrazyMelon> aja..web store
[09:47] <CrazyMelon> nvm
[09:47] <CrazyMelon> govorim o gnome store :p
[09:48] <dz0ny> tehnočno je web page :)
[09:48] <zdobersek> ne vem, zakaj zdej nazaj k GNOME rotirajo
[09:48] <dz0ny> tehnično*
[09:48] <dz0ny> meh
[09:48] <dz0ny> it works
[09:48] <dz0ny> so they use it
[09:49] <CrazyMelon> zdobersek ker so ugotovili da bodo imeli manj dela če dejansko čim več z upstreama poberejo :)
[09:49] <CrazyMelon> kot pa če bodo vzdrževali svoj sw ki niti ni tako dober :D
[09:50] <zdobersek> CrazyMelon: kay, ampak zakaj potem ne ostanejo na aptju in pac sesajo vse updatee iz Debiana?
[09:50] <zdobersek> riddle me this!
[09:51] <CrazyMelon> zdobersek ne bi vedel za apt..dz0nyja prašaj :D
[09:51] <zdobersek> dz0ny: riddle me that!
[09:52] <dz0ny> snappy paketi so static buildi al pa apt
[09:52] <dz0ny> apt bundle bomo rekl
[09:52] <dz0ny> ubuntu core je apt based build
[09:52] <dz0ny> sam se potem apt odstrani
[09:53] <dz0ny> tko da samega apt ni več
[09:54] <zdobersek> sound like NIH to me
[09:56] <CrazyMelon> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/667517215390863360
[09:56] <Pepelka> Elon Musk auf Twitter: "We are looking for hardcore software engineers. No prior experience with cars required. Please include code sample or link to your work."
[09:56] <CrazyMelon> go! do it!
[09:57] <zdobersek> I haz other plans
[09:57] <zdobersek> pa najbrz bi moral migrirat
[09:57] <CrazyMelon> apple car right? fckin traitor
[09:57] <zdobersek> bit ekonomski migrant je pa dandanes nezazeljeno
[09:58] <zdobersek> razen, ce lahko zraven vzamem 5 sirskih beguncev
[10:34] <CrazyMelon> .yt pinky the cat
[10:34] <jabuk> Pinky the Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR_LHlFwlhk
[10:55] <zdobersek> classic pinky
[12:01] <zdobbie> feel the Bern https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3tiyb1/sanders_wins_the_iowa_youth_caucus_final_results/
[12:01] <Pepelka> Sanders wins the Iowa Youth Caucus. Final results are Sanders 53% O'Malley 24% Clinton 15% : SandersForPresident
[12:01] <Pepelka> »Iowa's Secretary of State's tweet: https://twitter.com/IowaSOS/status/667551559081992192«
[12:01] <zdobbie> also, O'Malley?
[12:13] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ2dI_B_Ycg
[12:13] <Pepelka> 'Littlebits' 'Arduino' knife-wielding tentacle - YouTube
[12:13] <Pepelka> »I have gone to far...😕«
[12:16] <zdobbie> kek http://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/11/19/why-has-whatsapp-accessed-my-contacts-23709-times-in-the-last-7-days/
[12:16] <Pepelka> Why has WhatsApp accessed my contacts 23,709 times in the last 7 days?
[12:16] <Pepelka> »Each time you install an app, you're asked to accept the permissions it's requesting to access the features on your phone. It's a standard cost of entry fo«
[12:27] <napsy> ah ja
[12:39] <zdobbie> CrazyMelon: http://www.telekom.si/zasebni-uporabniki/mobiteli-in-naprave/mobiteli/lg-nexus-5x
[12:39] <Pepelka> Mobiteli
[12:39] <Pepelka> »Google in LG sta združila moči in ustvarila telefon z ostrim, 13,2-centimetrskim (5,2-palčnim) zaslonom Full HD, procesorjem Qualcomm Snapdragon 808, izredno zmogljivim operacijskim sistemom Android Marshmallow in hitrim polnjenjem baterije. Telefon je opremljen z zadnjo kamero z 12,2 MP in sprednjo kamero s 5 MP, za večjo varnost pa je dodan senzor prstnega odtisa.«
[12:42] <napsy> najs
[12:44] <speed-> kaj zdaj se ze ucite koran na pamet? :)
[12:45] <napsy> od kot ta ideja?
[12:48] <speed-> pa zdaj z malija baje
[12:48] <speed-> neven mati mi prej nekaj razlagala
[12:48] <napsy> ? je dobila koran z malija?
[12:48] <speed-> ne lol
[12:49] <speed-> pa tam nekaj serejo
[12:49] <speed-> neke talce majo v hoteli ali whatever
[12:49] <napsy> kok pa vejo da je teroristicni napad?
[12:49] <speed-> nevem nekaj se baje strelajo
[12:49] <napsy> mislim, a je confirmed?
[12:49] <napsy> ja lahka je ugrabitev
[12:49] <speed-> mislim da ja
[12:50] <napsy> pa zahtevajo nek ransome
[12:51] <speed-> ej nevem lol
[12:51] <napsy> zakaj pa lol?
[12:51] <speed-> zato ker me take sprasujes
[12:51] <napsy> zakaj, men se zdijo ful smiselna vprasanja
[12:51] <speed-> ja samo te si idi preberi vse strani so polne tega
[12:51] <speed-> meni se glih neda o tem brat
[12:51] <speed-> to vem kar sem cul :)
[12:52] <idioterna> koran je bedna knjiga
[12:53] <dz0ny> to ste vidl http://www.radio1.si/41993
[12:53] <Pepelka> Radio 1 - Najpogumnejša Slovenka ta hip!
[12:53] <Pepelka> »Nesebično pomagala 11-letni deklici in ji rešila življenje«
[12:53] <dz0ny> *čul :>
[12:54] <speed-> idioterna a niso vse te pravljice bedne?
[12:55] <idioterna> ne
[12:55] <idioterna> sej v koranu je tut par cist uredu pravljic
[12:55] <idioterna> sam zlo mal, vecina je krneki
[12:55] <speed-> ej nebi vedel
[12:55] <idioterna> ja jsm ga bral
[12:55] <idioterna> moral bi se naucit arabsko, da bi original bral
[12:55] <speed-> jaz nisem niti nase 'svete' knjige bral :)
[12:55] <idioterna> k pravjo da so prevodi zanic
[12:55] <idioterna> aja jsm jo
[12:55] <idioterna> tut je podn
[12:55] <idioterna> nisi velik zamudu
[12:56] <speed-> hvala bogu nihce v moji familiji ni prevec veren
[12:56] <idioterna> v moji tut ne
[12:56] <idioterna> fotr je bil sicer krscen, ampak mene pa na sreco ni noben
[12:57] <idioterna> mama pa ni bla krscena, na sreco
[12:57] <speed-> e vidis mene so pa zrihtali
[12:57] <speed-> na crno hehe
[12:57] <idioterna> kr nesramn
[12:57] <idioterna> js bi fotra pa mamo pretepu
[12:57] <idioterna> ce bi me krstila
[12:57] <speed-> hehe
[12:57] <idioterna> zupnka pa poscal
[12:57] <speed-> ma ne saj glej
[12:57] <speed-> prvo obhajilo pa birma
[12:57] <speed-> se je cashout naredil
[12:57] <speed-> pa to je to :)
[12:57] <idioterna> js nism tkole poceni prodal duse hudicu :)
[12:58] <napsy> ce mas dovol premozno familijo, ja
[12:58] <idioterna> jsm od hudica zahteval indeksirano rento
[12:58] <speed-> pa se je obneslo?
[12:58] <idioterna> pa ni hotu, pol sm pa pac reku da pol pa nc
[12:58] <idioterna> ne
[12:58] <idioterna> pac vsi sosedje so dobil videorekorderje pa mopede pa take reci
[12:58] <idioterna> za birmo
[12:59] <idioterna> jsm pa reku da ce hocjo da zakramente nardim, mi morjo dat dost dnarja da bom loh pomagal zrtvam krscanstva
[12:59] <idioterna> sam k niso verni so pol rekl sam "a se hecas"
[12:59] <speed-> hehe
[13:01] <speed-> 20. november pa meni stari gnjavi naj grem kosit
[13:01] <speed-> ker bo jutri sneg :))
[13:01] <speed-> fakin shit
[13:02] <idioterna> ja pejt ne
[13:02] <idioterna> kaj se pa zamudis
[13:02] <idioterna> to je pa res tak zen job
[13:02] <speed-> pa bom sel ja
[13:37] <CrazyMelon> zdobbie sm že vidu
[13:37] <CrazyMelon> zdobbie evo en link zate
[13:37] <CrazyMelon> !g gethuawei 6p
[13:37] <Pepelka> Nexus 6P - Huawei Official Store http://www.gethuawei.com/nexus6p
[14:00] <CrazyMelon> miha.. js pričakujem da boš do 2016 pofixal pepelko
[14:04] <zdobersek> what's there to fix
[14:04] <zdobersek> oh
[14:04] <zdobersek> written in Java
[14:35] <CrazyMelon> pozna kdo https://www.windyty.com/ ?
[14:35] <Pepelka> Windyty, wind map & forecast
[14:35] <Pepelka> »Ubercool wind animation all over the world. Wind and weather forecast for kiters, surfers, pilots and anyone else.«
[14:35] <zdobbie> nope
[14:36] <CrazyMelon> yw
[14:39] <anny_> dan
[14:39] <zdobbie> https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/667703528643649536
[14:39] <Pepelka> the grugq auf Twitter: "The Paris attackers used Facebook, not encryption… and in an ISIS dedicated group! https://t.co/QmcVcQWZ5S https://t.co/VB1TmCF1Hp"
[14:39] <CrazyMelon> a niso uporabljali telegram?
[14:39] <anny_> ste že sesuli Islamsko državo?
[14:40] <CrazyMelon> working on it
[14:40] <yang> Moja okolina smatra, zreo sam za psihijatra -- Bora Djordjevic
[14:40] <anny_> odlično!
[14:42] <anny_> kakšni so rezultati?
[14:42] <CrazyMelon> 129:8..oni vodijo
[14:43] <zdobbie> ufff
[14:43] <anny_> *eba
[14:43] <anny_> bolj se potrudi(te)
[14:45] <anny_> če ti zmanjka idej...
[14:45] <anny_> https://vijestiummeta.wordpress.com/
[14:45] <Pepelka> Vijesti Ummeta - sve ono što do vas ne dopire putem malih ekrana | DOŠLA JE ISTINA, A NESTALO LAŽI
[14:45] <Pepelka> »došla je istina, a nestalo laži«
[14:46] <CrazyMelon> ummet je iz sirije?
[14:46] <anny_> iz bosne
[14:46] <yang> anny ti naivno upas, da se da sesuti islamiste ?
[14:46] <anny_> ne
[14:47] <anny_> samo omejiti
[14:47] <yang> zdaj jih je skoraj miljon novih v evropi
[14:48] <anny_> ja
[14:48] <zdobbie> :>
[14:48] <anny_> zahvaljujoč nori politiki merklove
[14:48] <anny_> imo jo je ujela demenca, kot je rekel pirtošek na tedx
[15:01] <yang> jst bi se pa strinjal s tem da nemcija potrebuje miljon nove poceni delovne sile
[15:01] <anny_> ja
[15:02] <yang> zdaj pa zapirajo mejo ker jih je ze dovolj prislo
[15:02] <anny_> če potrebujejo milijon ljudi, naj si jih gredo sami iskat
[15:02] <anny_> pogovarjala sem se z ljudmi, ki so čistili nasip v brežicah za begunci
[15:02] <yang> aftermath fake pariski napadi in fake strmoglavljenje ruskega letala
[15:02] <anny_> na 5 km so pobrali 81 vreč smeti s tem, da je bilo od daleč videti počiščeno
[15:03] <yang> in vsi organizatorji napada ubiti da se nihce vec ne more zagovarjati kot JFK primer
[15:03] <anny_> našli morje neuporabljene hrane, zapakirane zobne paste, zobne ščetke, plastenke vode
[15:04] <anny_> o tem se seveda ne poroča
[15:07] <yang> pac vzamejo kar se jim zdi uporabno ostalo zavrzejo
[15:07] <anny_> saj je rekla ta gospa
[15:07] <anny_> laufajo in odvržejo vse, kar ni uporabno
[15:08] <anny_> ko pridejo do naslednjega centra pa: "Kaj, a niti odeje mi ne date?!"
[15:08] <yang> meni se zdi fino ko so jim od wlansi projekta ustmali wifi internet v begunskem taboriscu
[15:08] <anny_> upam,d a so dobili dovolj polnilcev za iphone
[15:09] <yang> so nasli dobre sosede
[15:09] <yang> da so sharealu svoj interner
[15:09] <yang> bbl
[15:10] <zdobbie> iPhones don't fix bullet holes
[15:11] <anny_> jep
[15:11] <zdobbie> i.e. so what
[15:11] <anny_> še vedno beremo pretežno politično korektne novice
[15:11] <zdobbie> ampak ja, lightning polnilci so jeba
[15:11] <anny_> :)
[15:15] <idioterna> merklova ma prav
[15:15] <idioterna> vsi ksenofobi se pa motite.
[15:15] <idioterna> zdej je se zizek zacel neumnosti govort
[15:16] <anny_> haha
[15:16] <anny_> zdaj je začel?
[15:16] <anny_> ne me basat
[15:17] <idioterna> ja, zdaj
[15:17] <idioterna> prej je bil se kr konsistenten
[15:17] <yang> sizek
[15:17] <anny_> kaj je izjavil?
[15:18] <idioterna> zdej pa prav da muslimani niso kompatibilni z evropsko kulturo
[15:18] <idioterna> kar je neumnost
[15:18] <anny_> okusi so različni :)
[15:18] <idioterna> ja, saj zato
[15:18] <anny_> jaz na primer obožujem kranjsko klobaso in ocvirke, oni pač ne
[15:18] <idioterna> ce bi bli vsi muslimani enaki, potem bi lahko kej tacga reku
[15:18] <idioterna> pa niso
[15:18] <idioterna> kako ves?
[15:18] <yang> idioterna ti mu lahko kej kontriras verjetno, napises repliko v sobotno prilogo
[15:19] <anny_> ja, ali kar na mail
[15:19] <idioterna> eh, ne da se mi se z njim ukvarjat
[15:19] <yang> verjetno ma tudi blog, kukr je popularn
[15:19] <idioterna> moram obicajne ksenofobe pa homofobe bashat
[15:19] <anny_> [email protected]
[15:20] <anny_> kako skrajšam url?
[15:20] <yang> bit.ly
[15:20] <idioterna> https://goo.gl/
[15:20] <Pepelka> Google URL Shortener
[15:21] <anny_> https://goo.gl/bG7QsO
[15:21] <anny_> dz0ny bo znoru
[15:24] <idioterna> ah, sej je navajen
[15:24] <anny_> upam
[15:24] <anny_> sovraži vse kapitaliste
[15:25] <idioterna> js vas bom itak zapustu
[15:25] <anny_> veste, ker dan je danes?
[15:25] <idioterna> petek?
[15:25] <idioterna> vsaj zdi se mi
[15:26] <anny_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay
[15:26] <Pepelka> UCADay - Ubuntu Wiki
[15:27] <anny_> zahvala vsem kontributorjem
[15:27] <anny_> ne najdem slovenske besede...prispevalcem?
[15:27] <idioterna> vsem, ki so prispevali
[15:28] <CrazyMelon> prispevkarjem!
[15:28] <CrazyMelon> :P
[15:28] <anny_> Yes, Krejzi, majluv!
[15:29] <idioterna> pobiramo samoprispevek
[15:29] <anny_> daj trr
[15:29] <idioterna> ne, za ubuntu
[15:30] <idioterna> ne v dnarju, v patchih
[15:30] <idioterna> btw, evo kako zgleda ateisticna indoktrinacija otrok
[15:30] * anny_ se skrije
[15:30] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvNQYok4VYA
[15:30] <Pepelka> Haha Fedr - YouTube
[15:30] <CrazyMelon> i'll take $$ instead of patches
[15:31] <anny_> bytheway, lvm vgchange -ay ne deluje
[15:31] <idioterna> a ne uporablja lvmja default ubuntu install?
[15:32] <idioterna> kaj pa izpise?
[15:32] <idioterna> no sej
[15:32] <idioterna> nalozi live usb image na usb kljucek
[15:32] <idioterna> pa naredi tko kot je dzoni predlagal
[15:32] <idioterna> js morm v trgovino
[15:32] <anny_> kaj je že džoni predlagal?
[15:32] <idioterna> da zbootas live usb, namestis bootrepair
[15:32] <idioterna> in ga pozenes
[15:33] <idioterna> da popravi initrd
[15:33] <anny_> aha
[15:33] <anny_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:33] <Pepelka> Boot-Repair - Community Help Wiki
[15:34] <anny_> šibaj...danes ne nori petek
[15:34] <anny_> *je
[15:35] <zdobersek> https://twitter.com/andnowtothemoon/status/667010088947830784
[15:35] <Pepelka> Krutika Mallikarjuna auf Twitter: "this is honestly the best COME AT ME BRO that i've ever fucking seen https://t.co/0dXZK81rhD"
[15:38] <CrazyMelon> http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/20/usa-today-wiretaps/
[15:38] <Pepelka> USA Today: California wrongly wiretapped 52,000 people
[15:38] <Pepelka> »Remember when, on 'The Wire,' McNulty struggled to get access to wiretaps? It's not like that in reality.«
[15:53] <idioterna> anny_: sm su v lokalno stacuno
[15:53] <idioterna> k so cene 20% visje
[15:53] <idioterna> ampak vsaj ni hofer!
[15:54] <anny_> mečky :)
[15:54] <idioterna> aja ne ni merkator
[15:54] <idioterna> mlinotest je
[15:54] <idioterna> ma taljansko nutelo
[15:54] <anny_> o še bolje
[15:55] <idioterna> mhm
[15:55] <idioterna> no sej tut merkator je blizu, ampak ni tok nice
[15:55] <anny_> v čem se italijanska nutela razlikuje od poljske
[15:55] <idioterna> zarad nutele in zarad tezenja s pikami
[15:55] <idioterna> hm
[15:55] <idioterna> bl mastna je se mi zdi
[15:55] * anny_ ni ekspert za nutelo
[15:55] <idioterna> poljska je bolj temnorjava in manj tekoca
[15:55] <anny_> več palmovega olja noter
[15:56] <idioterna> ja
[16:04] <anny_> http://veskajjes.si/zivila/izdelki-na-osnovi-maobe-in-olja/mastni-namazi-masleni-margarinski/nutella-ferrero
[16:04] <Pepelka> Nutella Ferrero
[16:04] <anny_> super za zamašit žile
[16:04] <CrazyMelon> idioterna a veš zakaj so 20% višje? ker so v bistvu rebrandan merkator :D
[16:06] <anny_> waw
[16:10] <anny_> http://www.digitalattackmap.com/
[16:10] <Pepelka> Digital Attack Map
[16:10] <Pepelka> »A live data visualization of DDoS attacks around the globe«
[16:15] <zdobbie> also http://map.norsecorp.com
[16:15] <Pepelka> Norse Attack Map
[16:29] <CrazyMelon> also... boring
[16:30] <dz0ny> annoying if you are on the receiving end
[16:31] <anny_> zanimivo
[16:31] <anny_> v Savdski arabiji imajo pa veliko cajta
[16:31] <dz0ny> https://youtu.be/7ke13JNlpBQ
[16:31] <Pepelka> The Drug Fueling Conflict In Syria - YouTube
[16:31] <Pepelka> »Syria's War Drug: A look inside production of Captagon, the powerful amphetamine being used by soldiers in Syria. How Assad And The Kurds Are Teaming Up Agai...«
[16:32] <idioterna> CrazyMelon: i know
[16:32] <dz0ny> Najvecji kupec pa sa ker be smejo alkohola
[16:32] <idioterna> anny_: nah, sej nism kupu nutele
[16:32] <dz0ny> Je to Edin kr lahko dobis easy pa se noben ne preganja
[16:32] <Sky[x]> http://matejspehar.tumblr.com/post/133597483638/zakaj-se-trese-trzin
[16:32] <Pepelka> Zakaj se trese Trzin? | In my secret life
[16:32] <Pepelka> »Dragi moji Asbisovci, Mineva že skoraj dva meseca, ko vas verjetno neprestano daje kolcanje in morda se v Trzinu občasno trese celo vaša poslovna stavba. Se opravičujem vam in vsem okoliškim prebivalcem, ki nimajo nič s tem, predvsem vsem v Old London pubu, če se jim pivo peni brez razloga. Razlog tem tektonskim premikom je velika frekvenca omemb vašega podjetja iz mojih ust. Včasih zgolj potiho, skoraj v moji glavi, bolj pogosto tulim na
[16:33] <anny_> gandža je dovoljena?
[16:33] <dz0ny> Mhm
[16:33] <dz0ny> Also pa ni
[16:33] <dz0ny> AlkoAlko
[16:33] <idioterna> gandza kje?
[16:33] <idioterna> v SA ziher ne
[16:33] <idioterna> ker te obesijo, ce te dobijo z njo
[16:34] <anny_> f*ed countries
[16:34] <anny_> grem...lp
[16:40] <zdobersek> toshibatoshibatoshibatoshibatoshibatoshibatoshibatoshiba
[16:45] <zdobbie> ce maste predober petek http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/11/okrogla_miza_odnos_rkc_lgbt.aspx
[16:45] <Pepelka> So pripadniki RKC in LGBT zmožni dialoga? | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[16:45] <Pepelka> »Med Katoliško cerkvijo in pripadniki LGBT je treba iskati skupni jezik, medsebojno razumevanje in dialog, so bili enotni udeleženci okrogle mize z naslovom Novi časi za odnos RKC do LGBT?.«
[16:47] <zdobbie> 'Branko Cestnik je opozoril, da o tej temi prepogosto razpravljajo aktivisti, ne pa intelektualci.'
[16:47] <zdobbie> eyyyyy
[16:47] <zdobbie> also, "Istospolna usmerjenost je predmoralno stanje."
[17:13] <dz0ny> idioterna: gandzo, ne pa z amfetamini
[17:50] <skyx> dz0ny: slucjano ves za kak php library k zna z multiple async requesti delat, ter da lahko za vsakega posameznega dobis error response ce je razlicno od 2xx? :)
[17:51] <dz0ny> skyx: php ni async
[17:51] <dz0ny> ne mors
[17:51] <dz0ny> razen ce uporabis hhvm stuff
[17:52] <skyx> http://docs.guzzlephp.org/en/latest/quickstart.html#concurrent-requests
[17:52] <Pepelka> Quickstart — Guzzle Documentation
[17:52] <skyx> tol mi ql dela sam problem mal ce je en request razlicen od 2xx pa ne mors dobi responsa kar je fail :>
[17:53] <skyx> sam throw exception navadn posle :)
[17:53] <dz0ny> kje pa to dela?
[17:53] <dz0ny> k god help me ce zacne to folk masovno uporabljat :D
[17:53] <skyx> hehe :D
[17:53] <dz0ny> aha to ma isto foro kot curl
[17:54] <dz0ny> move on
[17:54] <skyx> sej pomoj curl zadej uporabla, sem sel mal kodo gledat zadej pa je obupna :>
[17:54] <skyx> sam fucking edina stvar k vsaj neki dela :>
[18:36] <pitko> večer
[18:37] <skyx> lp
[18:37] <pitko> kva je zdej kej novga?
[18:38] <skyx> sekr je tema zunej :)
[18:38] <pitko> :)
[18:39] <idioterna> dz0ny: ja
[18:43] <zdobersek> can't do a software update for that http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/20/9769868/tesla-model-s-recall-seat-belt
[18:43] <Pepelka> Tesla recalls all 90,000 Model S cars over faulty seat belt | The Verge
[18:43] <Pepelka> »Tesla is voluntarily recalling every Model S it has ever made — some 90,000 cars — because of a single report from Europe where the seatbelt wasn’t assembled properly.In that case, someone in the...«
[18:44] <CrazyMelon> voluntarily!
[18:44] <pitko> a je kdo tole bildov iz sourca? https://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/pcsclite.html
[18:44] <Pepelka> PCSClite project
[18:44] <CrazyMelon> zdobersek did
[18:45] <pitko> ker mi ni jasno
[18:45] <pitko> nardim vse po postopku
[18:47] <pitko> mal mi je čudno k nobeno napako ne jav
[18:50] <dz0ny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXSFEyII2oA
[18:50] <Pepelka> Кадры ракетных ударов по ИГИЛ на рассвете - YouTube
[18:50] <Pepelka> »Телеканал «Звезда» публикует уникальные кадры нанесения ракетных и бомбовых ударов по объектам террористов запрещенного в России «Исламского государства» в С...«
[18:51] <idioterna> CrazyMelon: zdobersek
[18:51] <idioterna> how bout that defense?
[18:56] <slax0r> ehlo
[18:56] <slax0r> kje vi kj narocujete hardware?
[18:56] <zdobersek> kjer ga majo
[18:56] <zdobersek> define hardware
[18:56] <slax0r> a sm mogoce na #klavnica ? :P
[18:56] <slax0r> hardware, as in, cpu, mobo, ram, gfx, psu, hdd,....
[18:56] <zdobersek> whut
[18:57] <zdobersek> nazadnje sem trzu na mimovrste
[18:57] <zdobersek> ampak tega je 4 leta
[18:57] <slax0r> mimovrste mja...
[18:57] <slax0r> dragi so k prasci
[18:57] <slax0r> isto tak enaa
[18:58] <zdobersek> jah najbrz kej v AUT najdes
[18:58] <pitko> ej zdobrsek
[18:58] <zdobersek> ne poznam
[18:59] <zdobersek> 'dobrsek'
[18:59] <zdobersek> ts
[18:59] <zdobersek> tis pa putka
[18:59] <zdobersek> al kaj
[18:59] <pitko> ups
[18:59] <pitko> se opravičujem
[18:59] <zdobersek> kk
[18:59] <pitko> sam 3 minute tvojga časa
[18:59] <pitko> https://pcsclite.alioth.debian.org/pcsclite.html
[18:59] <Pepelka> PCSClite project
[18:59] <pitko> to si bilduov
[19:00] <pitko> bildov*
[19:00] <zdobersek> ne, to si ti buildov
[19:00] <zdobersek> jst sem trolu na strani
[19:00] <zdobersek> ampak vprasej
[19:00] <pitko> k grem po tem njegovem postopku
[19:01] <zdobbie> pitko: gres po tem njegovem postopku
[19:02] <pitko> nakonc mi napiše da command not found
[19:02] <pitko> probov sm pa že vse mogoče
[19:02] <zdobbie> which one?
[19:02] <pitko> "u"
[19:03] <pitko> "/usr/sbin/pcscd"
[19:03] <pitko> bil je spisan nek ccid gonilnik
[19:03] <pitko> pa ga zdej nemorm sprobat
[19:03] <pitko> k se mi to ne builda
[19:04] <zdobbie> pitko: a si instaliru po `make`?
[19:04] <zdobbie> make install
[19:05] <pitko> sam make sm dal
[19:05] <pitko> o majmun
[19:05] <pitko> je to narobe?
[19:05] <zdobbie> pitko: mogoce ti sploh ni treba instalirat, ampak pac pozen pcscd, kjer si ga zbuildu
[19:06] <pitko> pa to sm razmislu tut ja
[19:06] <pitko> bom probal hvala
[19:11] <pitko> sam še to je razlika med mak install pa install?
[19:11] <pitko> make*
[19:11] <pitko> eh
[19:11] <pitko> je razlika med sam make pa make install
[19:11] <pitko> se vid da je petek :D
[19:11] <zdobbie> pitko: je razlika
[19:11] <zdobbie> make samo zbuilda
[19:11] <pitko> fak
[19:11] <pitko> debil
[19:11] <pitko> OMG
[19:12] <pitko> veš kok cajta že to rihtam
[19:12] <pitko> :D
[19:12] <dz0ny> pitko: al pa ce odpres Makefile pa pogledas kaj dela :D
[19:12] <pitko> ja -.-
[19:12] <zdobbie> make install pa ti porine v nek directory
[19:12] <zdobbie> pitko: ne odpirat, k je petek
[19:12] <zdobbie> te loh se glava boli
[19:13] <pitko> haha
[19:13] <pitko> :D
[19:13] <pitko> hvala vm
[19:13] <pitko> carji
[19:14] <zdobersek> #hekerji.si/goodguys
[19:15] <pitko> :)
[19:15] <pitko> ni bil to nek film zdej?
[19:16] <upd> da
[19:17] <pitko> mel smo zastonj karte pa nism mel časa jit na primjero škoda!
[19:21] <pitko> kako ste kej zadovolni z novim ubuntujem?
[19:23] <pitko> jaz napovno pogrešam linuxe :D zdej k mam windowse groza
[19:23] <slax0r> debian 8 <3
[19:23] <slax0r> xfce <3
[19:23] <pitko> ja
[19:24] <pitko> čeprov debian 8 ma neke probleme z wifijem
[19:24] <slax0r> desktop
[19:24] <slax0r> don't care
[19:24] <pitko> pol itq
[19:25] <pitko> mislm men osebno so vsi po svoje zanimivi še posebi mi manjka treminal ...
[19:25] <pitko> terminal*
[19:25] <slax0r> ja daj linux gor pa bo ;)
[19:25] <slax0r> jaz mam windoze samo za igre
[19:25] <slax0r> takrat pa "potrpim" brez terminala ;)
[19:28] <pitko> za potrebe službe potrebujem windowse
[19:28] <slax0r> vm ^^
[19:29] <pitko> :)
[19:29] <slax0r> zdaj pa kaj bo guest in kaj host, pa je odvisno, kaj bolj potrebujes :)
[19:29] <pitko> mah ne sej zdej kujem nov komp pa bo
[19:29] <pitko> linux
[19:54] <CrazyMelon> idioterna what defense?
[20:06] <zdobersek> ping me when ready
[20:09] <CrazyMelon> zdobersek ping
[20:09] <CrazyMelon> i'm ready
[20:09] <zdobersek> pa ne ti
[20:10] <CrazyMelon> pffft!
[20:14] <netkat> https://twitter.com/midniterunr/status/667792394717405184/photo/1
[20:14] <Pepelka> Josh Pitts auf Twitter: "And more https://t.co/oxYduYb4bR"
[20:15] <slax0r> zdobersek: ping
[20:15] <slax0r> ready
[20:15] <zdobersek> noted
[20:17] <CrazyMelon> no kaj zdaj
[20:17] <CrazyMelon> a gremo igrat al ne
[20:18] <slax0r> kaj igramo?
[20:19] <CrazyMelon> slax0r insurgency kaj le?!?!
[20:19] <slax0r> dafuq is dis?
[20:19] <CrazyMelon> slax0r the greatest game evah?
[20:20] <slax0r> ne, to je MWO
[20:20] <slax0r> lawl
[20:21] <CrazyMelon> menopaused women ovulating???
[20:21] <CrazyMelon> makes no sense to me
[20:55] <upd> http://imgur.com/gallery/STdByWG bahaha
[20:55] <Pepelka> No-one invades the motherland - Imgur
[20:55] <Pepelka> »Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.«
[20:58] <slax0r> lol
[21:07] <slax0r> http://imgur.com/gallery/U6w3c1u
[21:07] <Pepelka> I'm moving to Mars - Imgur
[21:07] <Pepelka> »Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.«
[21:13] <pitastrudl> yo
[21:15] <CrazyMelon> !g insurgency night goggles all white
[21:15] <Pepelka> Why is nightvision so bright? :: Insurgency Questions https://steamcommunity.com/app/222880/discussions/3/627456486829141545/
[21:26] <zdobbie> jah zakaj, ker gledas v svetlobo
[21:26] <zdobbie> ffs
[21:28] <zdobbie> https://i.imgur.com/JdIqPUP.gifv
[21:28] <Pepelka> Imgur
[21:32] <CrazyMelon> zdobbie nope..nism vedel da moras cakat cca. 20s
[21:34] <zdobbie> hum
[21:39] <CrazyMelon> sam en kill mam
[21:39] <CrazyMelon> pa sem vseeno mvp
[21:39] <CrazyMelon> :D
[21:53] <zdobbie> as edini na serverju
[21:59] <CrazyMelon> ne..še 7 drugih :D
[21:59] <CrazyMelon> prej sm bil mvp pa nism mel sploh killa :D
[22:00] <CrazyMelon> pač če pri huntu uničiš cache dobiš več točk kot če killaš insurgentse
[22:09] <dz0ny> kd ration -100
[22:48] <matjaz> TIL: privzete LUKS nastavitve ne podpirajo discard/TRIM funkcij za SSDje
[23:00] <pitastrudl> spat
[23:00] <pitastrudl> aja matjaz
[23:00] <pitastrudl> zloudal se mi je tisti torrent
[23:00] <pitastrudl> :D
[23:00] <pitastrudl> se rabis?
[23:00] <matjaz> seveda :D
[23:01] <pitastrudl> kak je ze title
[23:01] <pitastrudl> sem pozabil
[23:02] <matjaz> uf, ne vem :)
[23:02] <pitastrudl> neka francoska zadeva
[23:02] <matjaz> neki chansons neki neki
[23:02] <matjaz> :)
[23:04] <pitastrudl> ja
[23:04] <pitastrudl> iščem ja
[23:04] <pitastrudl> kam sem dal
[23:05] <matjaz> find / -iname "*chanson*"
[23:05] <matjaz> :)
[23:06] <pitastrudl> ha
[23:06] <pitastrudl> windows
[23:06] <pitastrudl> :P
[23:06] <matjaz> O.O
[23:06] <matjaz> blasphemy!
[23:06] <pitastrudl> ha
[23:06] <pitastrudl> ne saj imam ubuntu na laptopu
[23:06] <pitastrudl> sam na pcju pa res nebi se mi dal met ubuntuja
[23:07] <matjaz> sej jest tud nimam Ubuntu :)
[23:07] <pitastrudl> hh
[23:17] <CrazyMelon> oba bosta dobila ban
[23:17] <CrazyMelon> !
[23:17] <CrazyMelon> .rt
[23:17] <jabuk> Trenutno se predvaja: Rudimental - Waiting All Night (Ft. Ella Eyre) (Kidnap Kid Remix). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-mMOlx110o
[23:18] * matjaz is listening to: Bedřich Smetana - Ma Vlast: The Moldau (5:02)
[23:18] <matjaz> :)
[23:18] <CrazyMelon> to ni ravno muzka za upgrejdanje :)
[23:19] <pitastrudl> CrazyMelon ne, bom prej tebe
[23:19] <pitastrudl> ok sm najdu matjaz
[23:19] <pitastrudl> uplodam na DB
[23:20] <matjaz> CrazyMelon: zdej se že sproščam, sem se 4 ure ukvarjal z luks+lvm+btrfs
[23:20] <matjaz> glava boli :)
[23:20] <CrazyMelon> no js upam da se bom max. ukvarjal 10min s forumom :)
[23:22] <upd> http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/news/winter-storm-bella-first-snow-iowa-illinois-wisconsin-michigan-chicago-detroit much snow
[23:22] <Pepelka> »Winter storm warnings are posted as some will see their first blanket of snow.«
[23:25] <pitastrudl> ayy
[23:25] <CrazyMelon> .vreme ljubljana
[23:25] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 12.2°C @20.11.2015 23:00 UTC.
[23:25] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 92% zahodnik 2.7 m/s (9.7 km/h)
[23:25] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:11:39, Kulminacija: 10:49:12, Sončni zahod: 15:26:46
[23:25] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 15min 08s, Luna je v ščipu
[23:26] <CrazyMelon> očitno ne bo snega v lj :D
[23:26] <CrazyMelon> .vreme novo mesto
[23:26] <jabuk> ARSO: Novo mesto (220m): 16°C @20.11.2015 23:00 UTC.
[23:26] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 62% južni veter 4.6 m/s (16.6 km/h)
[23:26] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:08:11, Kulminacija: 10:46:33, Sončni zahod: 15:24:54
[23:26] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 16min 43s, Luna je v ščipu
[23:26] <CrazyMelon> mah kak sneg..
[23:26] <CrazyMelon> .vreme koper
[23:26] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 12.8°C @20.11.2015 23:00 UTC.
[23:26] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 90% zahodnik 0.5 m/s (1.8 km/h)
[23:26] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:13:11, Kulminacija: 10:52:19, Sončni zahod: 15:31:26
[23:26] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 18min 15s, Luna je v ščipu
[23:26] <pitastrudl> topkek
[23:26] <pitastrudl> ej matjaz
[23:26] <CrazyMelon> lets kill jabuk
[23:26] <CrazyMelon> .vreme kredarica
[23:26] <jabuk> ARSO: Kredarica (2514m): -1.1°C @20.11.2015 23:10 UTC.
[23:26] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 98% jugovzhodnik 8.14 m/s (29.3 km/h)
[23:26] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:15:17, Kulminacija: 10:51:50, Sončni zahod: 15:28:22
[23:26] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 13min 05s, Luna je v ščipu
[23:26] <CrazyMelon> oh!
[23:26] <matjaz> pitastrudl: reci
[23:26] <pitastrudl> fak, synergy pls
[23:27] <pitastrudl> noce kopirat linka
[23:27] <pitastrudl> aja sej mam dropbox tut na pcju
[23:27] <pitastrudl> lol
[23:27] <pitastrudl> aja
[23:27] <pitastrudl> more ga še zloudat
[23:27] <pitastrudl> <.<.
[23:27] <pitastrudl> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[23:27] <pitastrudl> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27601293/Piffaro%20-%20Chansons%20et%20Danceries%20%281996%29%20%5BFLAC%5D%20%7BArchiv%20447107%7D.zip
mah kak sneg..
[23:27] <upd> sej vem da ti je hudo
[23:27] <pitastrudl> matjaz jutri zbrisem, zloudaj ko se ti zazdi
[23:27] <pitastrudl> ;)
[23:27] <upd> k ga še za božič ne boš imel
[23:28] <upd> ti ga bom poslal par kg
[23:28] <pitastrudl> pa mi jutri povej kako je
[23:28] <CrazyMelon> upd veš kako sem žalosten :>
[23:28] <pitastrudl> noč
[23:28] <upd> bova trejdala za morsko sol
[23:48] <CrazyMelon> no way
[23:48] <CrazyMelon> morske soli pa ne dam!
[23:48] * CrazyMelon has low blood pressure
[23:48] <CrazyMelon> anyway..forum še vedno dela \o/
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[19:27] <Guest98101> Ahoj, neni zde nekdo ze zapadu cech ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-africa
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[05:54] <Kilos> morning africa
[06:26] <craigbrash> Morning Kilos
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-vn
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[15:36] <adfdfa> hello every body
[15:43] <MrTuxHdb> ?
[15:56] <adfdfa> ?
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2015-11-20-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[01:17] <OvenWerks> It just seems to be in the one case where going to the login screen stays in the same user frame? Not sure. Using jack-sink/source with no detect allows a lot more options. Such as name in both PA and jack... well no, but in jack at least.
[01:18] <OvenWerks> When using jack-sink/source it is best to remember the module number that gets returned on load because a named unload, unloads them all.
[05:03] <OvenWerks> http://www.ovenwerks.net/img/two-audio-devices.png
[05:04] <OvenWerks> this shows up right away the limitations of this kind of patch bay.
[05:06] <OvenWerks> This kind of patchbay is really nice for simple connections, but even with one device an a big DAW it gets overloaded real quick
[05:07] <OvenWerks> however, what I am showing is the devices/connections from session start.
[05:08] <OvenWerks> From the desktop perspective, both audio interfaces are shown... M66 and AudioPCI are not the most descriptive :) but it matches aplay -l
[05:21] <OvenWerks> Anyway, there are two i/o devices that show up in both jack and pulse which results in 4 sets of in and four sets of outs.
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2015-11-20-#juju-dev
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[00:26] <davecheney> thumper: // InitializeFromConfig needs to be called once after the environment
[00:26] <davecheney> func InitializeFromConfig(config PreferIPv6Getter) { globalPreferIPv6 = config.PreferIPv6() logger.Infof("setting prefer-ipv6 to %v", globalPreferIPv6)
[00:26] <davecheney> }
[00:26] <davecheney> urgh
[00:26] <davecheney> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13356006/
[00:26] <davecheney> this method does not do what it's comment says
[00:26] <thumper> wa?
[00:26] <davecheney> it initalises nothing
[00:26] <davecheney> unless it's a side effect of calling config.PreferIPv6
[00:27] <thumper> davecheney: it sets the global variable
[00:27] <thumper> globalPreferIPv6 = config.PreferIPv6()
[00:28] <davecheney> oh fuck
[00:28] <davecheney> welp, there's another data race
[00:30] <davecheney> really ?
[00:35] <perrito666> davecheney: can we call you "the prolific dave cheney" from now on?
[00:36] <perrito666> http://features.slashdot.org/story/15/11/18/1748247/interviews-alan-donovan-and-brian-kernighan-answer-your-questions <-- for those who have not seen it, dave is featured in a Q&A by D&K
[00:40] <davecheney> \o/
[00:40] <davecheney> i have to be honest
[00:40] <davecheney> i never read that post
[00:40] <davecheney> it was full of toxic slashdotters
[00:40] <davecheney> maybe I should try again
[00:42] <perrito666> Nothing new but you are named as a proposer of the solution to version handling in go pks
[00:43] <davecheney> orly
[00:43] <perrito666> The rest of the questions are same old ones
[00:43] <davecheney> i should *definitely* read that then :)
[00:44] <wwitzel3> how often does the upgrade watcher cycle?
[00:52] <thumper> davecheney: I want to change s/Opener/APIOpener/ back, as envcmd.Opener doesn't really describe it, but envcmd.APIOpener does a bit more
[00:52] <thumper> davecheney: can you live with that?
[00:53] <davecheney> thumper: sure
[00:54] * thumper move back to sitting deck
[01:12] <axw> wallyworld_: I'm back, free to chat whenever you're ready
[01:13] <wallyworld_> axw: ok, i have another meeting in 15 and need to do some other stuff also so best to wait to our schedule time
[01:13] <axw> wallyworld_: nps
[02:36] <davecheney> thumper: menn0 https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3785
[02:45] <thumper> davecheney: shipit
[02:46] <davecheney> ta
[03:06] <cherylj> hey menn0, are you going to make the change to TestFilesystemInfo? or are you still waiting on input from mwhudson?
[03:18] <davecheney> thumper: menn0 http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/github-merge-juju/5520/console
[03:18] <davecheney> here is a great example of why always using etsting.BaseSuite is a bad idea
[03:19] <davecheney> in this case the test has failed because testing.Base suite also sets up some networking crap
[03:19] <davecheney> even though the test is just checking did something get written to the log at trace level
[03:20] <natefinch> it boggles my mind that we have tests that depend on the log output.
[03:20] <mgz> ...?
[03:21] <mgz> it makes sense to tese your logging isn't crap
[03:21] <mgz> it doesn't make sense to do that at a functional test
[03:24] <natefinch> there are some very specific circumstances where you would want to unit test some logging, I can understand that. But it should be the exception rather than the rule.... and we have a ton of tests that'll fail if you disable logging (I know, I tried it back when I tried to make our failed test output not so horrific)
[03:26] <davecheney> completely bonkers
[03:27] <natefinch> we have a bad habit in juju tests of testing crap we really don't actually care about, so our tests are brittle, and break for ridiculous reasons, like fixing typos
[03:28] <davecheney> for example
[03:28] <davecheney> we have a method to set a global singleton to true, or false
[03:28] <davecheney> and a third method that set it to false, but doens't log that's done anything
[03:28] <davecheney> da fuq
[03:29] <davecheney> and tests that rely on this behaviour
[03:32] <davecheney> while i'm having a rant
[03:32] <davecheney> i'm really pissed that all the test break if you don't have LXD installed
[03:32] <davecheney> and not in a
[03:32] <davecheney> c.FailNow("You don't have LCD installed")
[03:32] * natefinch hangs head.
[03:33] <davecheney> they fail because something in the guts of the code the test is calling is shelling out to /usr/bin/lxd
[03:33] <davecheney> and trying to parse the output
[03:33] <davecheney> really shit
[03:33] <natefinch> Sorry, yeah, we should fix that.
[03:34] <natefinch> I'll file a bug for it. Just didn't think of it, since we'd all installed LXD in order to be hacking on it.
[03:34] <davecheney> thanks
[03:35] <davecheney> i already logged a bug about the lxd provisioner failing horribly whne lxd is not installed
[03:35] <davecheney> natefinch: open question: how did this pass in CI ?
[03:35] <natefinch> / +build go1.3
[03:35] <natefinch> :p
[03:36] <natefinch> the lxd library uses some tsl function that's only in go 1.3+
[03:36] <natefinch> tls
[03:36] <natefinch> so the answer is... the tests don't get run in go 1.2... I don't know what happens on the wily build machine
[03:37] <natefinch> eric and wayne were handling most of that
[03:37] <natefinch> (and wily is still non-voting due to go 1.5 problems)
[03:38] <davecheney> natefinch: that means the tests are not being run by the landing bot
[03:39] <natefinch> davecheney: yes
[03:39] <davecheney> bummer
[03:39] <natefinch> indeed. We all wear these now: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0287/4374/products/DSC_8422_1024x1024.jpg?v=1411004337
[03:40] <cherylj> natefinch: should we buy those for the sprint?
[03:40] <davecheney> i'll have one in large thanks
[03:40] <davecheney> make mine extra black
[03:40] <davecheney> like my soul
[03:40] <natefinch> lol
[03:40] <cherylj> davecheney is so emo
[03:40] <davecheney> pain, etc
[03:42] <natefinch> also, this makes me so very sad:
[03:42] <natefinch> /home/nate/src/github.com/juju/juju$ grep -r "ErrorMatches" . | wc -l
[03:42] <natefinch> 2848
[03:43] <natefinch> are there 2800 places where we care what the (more or less) exact error message is? I doubt it.
[03:44] <davecheney> make that two jumpers
[03:49] <natefinch> does anyone even look at the bugs filed on charms?
[03:51] <natefinch> the wordpress charm is fundamentally broken for people who actually want to like, you know, use wordpress (not just show the login screen). I reported a bug about it 2 months ago and the bug hasn't even been triaged.
[03:52] <natefinch> https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/wordpress/+bug/1491995
[03:52] <mup> Bug #1491995: Can't upload files to wordpress <wordpress (Juju Charms Collection):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491995>
[05:23] <Michael_temp> anybody?
[07:07] <mup> Bug #1488523 changed: Azure provider attempts to reuse dying vnet <azure-provider> <bootstrap> <ci> <destroy-environment> <reliability> <repeatability> <juju-core:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488523>
[07:07] <mup> Bug #1494002 changed: azure deployment failure with mem constraints <azure-provider> <constraints> <deploy> <juju-core:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1494002>
[10:01] <voidspace> dimitern: stdup?
[10:02] <dimitern> voidspace, omw, 2m
[10:30] <voidspace> frobware: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3788/files
[10:30] <voidspace> dimitern: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3788/files
[10:42] <voidspace> frobware: I do have test failures on that rebase branch but they're "weird"
[10:43] <voidspace> frobware: can you run tests on that branch please
[10:43] <frobware> voidspace, yep
[10:54] <voidspace> frobware: all tests are passing so far on maas-spaces (as is) for me, so new failures are probably genuine :-/
[10:54] <voidspace> might be worth you re-trying the rebase locally and seeing if you get the same result
[10:59] <frobware> voidspace, that's what I was initially doing.
[11:02] <voidspace> maas-spaces is all pass for me
[11:03] <voidspace> trying master now
[11:12] <frobware> voidspace, I rebased maas-spaces against master; make check works for me too
[11:14] <voidspace> frobware: I'm getting test failures on master - at least some lxd related
[11:14] <voidspace> so that maybe the problem
[11:15] <frobware> voidspace, scrolling back through the chat there is mention of tests failing & (lack of) lxd installation
[11:16] <frobware> voidspace, but given our rebase attempt they should fail in the maas-spaces branch as well... ?
[11:16] <voidspace> container_initialisation_test.go fails on master for me too
[11:16] <voidspace> as far as I can see the tests that fail on the rebase fail on master for me too
[11:17] <voidspace> so should be ok
[11:17] <voidspace> other than tests failing on master being a problem!
[11:17] <voidspace> I'm installing lxd...
[11:25] <frobware> voidspace, master is OK for me. I don't have lxd installed.
[11:49] <voidspace> frobware: I'm on wily, I wonder if that's it
[11:49] <voidspace> installing lxd doesn't make a difference
[11:56] <voidspace> frobware: so do tests pass for you on my rebase branch?
[11:56] <voidspace> if so I'll merge it
[11:57] <frobware> voidspace, let me try your branch
[12:01] <frobware> voidspace, ah. so wily will be go-1.5.
[12:02] <voidspace> frobware: no, I'm using go 1.3.3
[12:02] <voidspace> I thought lxd provider required go 1.5
[12:02] <voidspace> hmmm, it used to - maybe that changed
[12:02] <voidspace> it all builds ok without 1.5
[12:03] <frobware> I have a wily plaground and `apt-get install golang-go' gives me 1.5. Are you building or using your own go build?
[12:04] <voidspace> frobware: yes :-)
[12:12] <voidspace> dimitern: frobware: so some of my failing tests on *my WIP branch* (not the rebase branch) were because with the addition of Spaces to NetworkingEnviron the dummy provider was no longer "supporting networking"
[12:12] <voidspace> dimitern: frobware: so that's an easy fix
[12:12] <voidspace> thank goodness
[12:12] <dimitern> voidspace, alright!
[12:13] <dimitern> voidspace, nice :)
[13:41] <fwereade> goddammit just as I am properly getting into something I have to go out for a while -- back this evening
[13:41] <perrito666> gluck
[14:39] <perrito666> does anyone know if a maas can be done whith storage from a nas instead of having each machine have storage?
[14:56] <maht> I am maas newbie, but I guess you would need to create a custom image that use the NAS as remote filesystem
[15:14] <mup> Bug #1518347 opened: LXD tests require LXD, but there's no friendly "you don't have LXD" error message <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518347>
[15:20] <mup> Bug #1518347 changed: LXD tests require LXD, but there's no friendly "you don't have LXD" error message <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518347>
[15:23] <mup> Bug #1518347 opened: LXD tests require LXD, but there's no friendly "you don't have LXD" error message <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518347>
[15:26] <mup> Bug #1518347 changed: LXD tests require LXD, but there's no friendly "you don't have LXD" error message <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518347>
[15:43] <voidspace> I have lxd installed, but get lots of test failures "can't connect to the local LXD server"
[15:43] <voidspace> (permission denied)
[15:52] <natefinch> voidspace: weird. we're in a meeting now. what series are you on?
[16:03] <frobware> voidspace, you still about? did we rebase?
[16:37] <lazypower> o/ - can someone lend a hand in clueing me in as to the purpose/case for JUJU_ACTION_TAG is?
[16:37] <lazypower> it appers to be a copy of JUJU_ACTION_UUID with the word "action" prepended, and thats the only discernable difference
[17:57] <fwereade> lazypower, um, don't use it
[17:57] <fwereade> lazypower, we probably never should have exposed it
[17:57] <fwereade> lazypower, tags are meant to be homogeneous ids for the api layer
[18:02] <voidspace> natefinch: I'm on wily
[18:03] <voidspace> frobware: I didn't merge - I don't get a clean test run on master so it's not easy to tell if the merge works
[18:03] <frobware> voidspace, ack
[18:06] <frobware> voidspace, upstream/maas-spaces rebased seem to be OK though.
[18:12] <voidspace> frobware: did you try my branch?
[18:12] <voidspace> frobware: if tests pass on that I'll merge it
[18:12] <voidspace> frobware: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3788
[18:16] <frobware> voidspace, well they did about 10am... :)
[18:16] <frobware> voidspace, I need to EOD in a bit. If you don't need this until Monday I could double-check again and then merge.
[18:17] <voidspace> frobware: hah, I was waiting for you to tell me you'd tried it...
[18:17] <voidspace> :-p
[18:17] <frobware> voidspace, I did at 10am.
[18:17] <voidspace> frobware: no hurry, Monday is ok
[18:17] <voidspace> frobware: although I haven't touched that branch since, so if they passed then they'll pass now
[18:18] <frobware> voidspace, I subsequently noticed later in the day I was using go 1.5 for that build so I should try again with 1.2.
[18:18] <voidspace> frobware: I think the CI bot will try with 1.2
[18:18] <voidspace> frobware: I've hit $$merge$$ anyway
[18:18] <frobware> good point
[18:18] <voidspace> natefinch: I'm using wily but using go 1.3
[18:40] <alexisb> voidspace, lxd needs at least 1.3, for the lxd provider juju builds with what is in wily 1.5
[18:41] <alexisb> voidspace, not sure if that helps
[18:47] <natefinch> go 1.3 should work fine. I usually build with 1.4.2, just because it's the newest non-1.5 build (and the 1.5 builds are significantly slower).
[18:47] <natefinch> wonder if it's a wily thing
[18:51] <voidspace> alexisb: thanks, I have 1.3
[18:51] <voidspace> it builds fine but I have test failures
[18:52] <alexisb> voidspace, related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1517748
[18:52] <alexisb> ??
[18:52] <mup> Bug #1517748: provider/lxd: test suite panics if lxd not installed <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517748>
[18:52] <voidspace> alexisb: see my comment on that bug
[18:53] <alexisb> aah I hadn't refreshed
[18:53] <voidspace> frobware: test failures for that merge, hard to see if they're the same or related or spurious or what
[18:53] <voidspace> frobware: http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/github-merge-juju/5525/console
[18:53] <katco> voidspace: we will be addressing that next week. are you sure you're on tip of master?
[18:53] <voidspace> katco: I was a couple of hours ago...
[18:54] <voidspace> katco: I have lxd installed and still have test failures though
[18:54] <voidspace> katco: so not *entirely* sure it's the same bug
[18:54] <katco> voidspace: is your user in the lxd group?
[18:55] <voidspace> katco: yep
[18:55] <voidspace> I gotta go, 7pm here and guests arriving
[18:55] <voidspace> EOW, sorry
[18:55] <katco> voidspace: np ty for input
[18:55] <katco> voidspace: we'll get it fixed enxt week
[18:56] <voidspace> katco: cool, thanks
[18:56] <frobware> cherylj, I pretty sure I understand why the bond and juju-br0 don't work. Need to futz with our script a bit -
[18:57] <cherylj> frobware: ah, good to hear!
[18:57] * frobware EOF -- that's End of Friday. :)
[19:09] <rick_h_> frobware: have fun!
[19:18] <katco> natefinch: hey you're going to make sure the min-version branch has a bless before you land it into master, correct?
[19:19] <natefinch> katco: yeah, good point. I'll move it into a feature branch so it can get CI'd.
[19:19] <katco> natefinch: k
[19:20] <natefinch> katco: it's really not a hugely sweeping change by any stretch of the imagination, but I think it pays to be overly careful given the problems of the recent past.
[19:20] <katco> natefinch: not even a question of impact, it's just policy
[19:23] <natefinch> katco: fair enough
[19:36] <katco> natefinch: talk to mgz or sinzui to see if you can get the next ci run to hit it
[19:37] <mgz> natefinch: I can push your branch into the juju namespace if you need that
[19:46] <natefinch> mgz: that would be very helpful
[19:47] <natefinch> mgz: it's the minver branch on github.com/natefinch/juju
[19:50] <mgz> natefinch: doing it
[20:06] <mgz> natefinch: you are in and up next
[20:07] <natefinch> mgz: thanks
[20:11] <natefinch> rogpeppe3: are you actually here?
[20:35] <natefinch> gah, I really hate it when people leave juju/juju in a state where it can't build against master of its dependent branches. it means I have to fix the build before I can land anything
[21:48] <natefinch> well, not getting juju min version in today it seems.
[21:49] <katco> natefinch: =/ b/c of the libs ?
[21:50] <natefinch> katco: yeah. I can land the stuff in charm.v6, but the stuff in master won't be able to go in without fixes first... axw has what might be the fixes on a personal branch, but they're slightly above trivial, so I wouldn't want to touch them without talking to him
[21:51] <katco> natefinch: makes sense. well at least you have ci building against your branch
[21:52] <natefinch> katco: yeah, but I don't think I can make my branch compile for CI, even
[21:54] <natefinch> katco: it works locally because I can hack things so that my commits are against an earlier version of charm.v6, but it can't be set up to run in Ci where it runs godeps
[21:55] <katco> natefinch: oh. doh.
[21:55] <katco> natefinch: well, once your fix to charm.v6 lands, you can patch your feature branch to use that version and run ci, yeah?
[21:56] <natefinch> katco: this is the whole problem... landing the code in charm.v6 means landing after those breaking changes
[21:57] <natefinch> katco: I fcan make it work locally because I can make a local branch off an earlier version of charm..v6 that excludes the breaking changes... but I can't create that kind of a branch in github.com/juju/charm
[21:57] <natefinch> (I mean, In theory an admin could, but it would be a heinous thing to do)
[21:58] <natefinch> I'll update my email to indicate that it's not just master but my feature branch that has this issue.
[21:58] <katco> natefinch: sorry, not sure i understand. you're landing some fixes in charm.v6, why couldn't you patch up your feature branch to be compatible with those changes?
[21:59] <natefinch> katco: oh, I could. They're just slightly beyond trivial... so I wouldn't want to get my feature branch in a bad state if I mess up those fixes
[21:59] <natefinch> katco: if I talk to andrew and confirm that I just need to cherry picky a couple commits, then yeah, I can do that.
[21:59] <katco> natefinch: oh i think i see.. you'd have to apply axw's changes to your feature branch and that is non trivial
[21:59] <natefinch> correct
[21:59] <katco> gotcha
[22:00] <katco> natefinch: can you rebase your feature branch to a blessed version of master?
[22:00] <katco> natefinch: at least then you've utilized your "dead time" and tested up to that point
[22:01] <natefinch> katco: yes, but the problem is in charm.v6, so it would still be there. The solution could be to make a feature branch in charm.v6 off the earlier blessed version
[22:01] <katco> natefinch: yeah, not a bad use of the "dead time". also looks like mgz just sent an email
[22:01] <katco> natefinch: might have some other stuff to fix up
[22:01] <natefinch> gah, yeah
[22:02] <natefinch> just read it
[22:02] <natefinch> ok, I'll work on that tonight. Gotta run to make dinner now.
[22:02] <katco> natefinch: have a good thanksgiving
[22:02] <natefinch> katco: you too!
[22:08] <fwereade> hey, do we have a way of flagging long-running tests as not-for-normal-runs?
[22:17] <perrito666> fwereade: I believe we do
[22:44] <fwereade> perrito666, do you happen to know what it might be?
[22:45] <perrito666> fwereade: nope, katco told me a gazillion times and I forgot a gazillion + 1
[22:45] * fwereade glances hopefully at katco
[22:45] <fwereade> ...although I've almost convinced myself that it's ok to patch just this once
[22:46] <katco> fwereade: o/ is this what you're looking for? https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/featuretests/package_test.go#L15
[22:46] <fwereade> katco, I was wondering if there was something that'd work globally
[22:47] <fwereade> katco, but I am being silly anyway
[22:47] <katco> fwereade: oh, no i don't think we've begun flagging certains tests as long or short yet
[22:47] <fwereade> katco, cheers
[22:48] <katco> fwereade: happy friday to you :)
[22:49] <fwereade> katco, and to you :)
[22:49] <fwereade> katco, by the way, do you recall state/testing.NotifyWatcherC et al?
[22:50] <katco> fwereade: not at all... what is it?
[22:50] <fwereade> katco, it's a test harness for a watcher
[22:50] <fwereade> katco, was wondering, if you'd used it, whether you thought it was a sane interface
[22:51] <katco> fwereade: i haven't used it, sorry :(
[22:51] <fwereade> katco, no worries :)
[22:51] <katco> fwereade: however, i do almost have a working charm that starts an emacs web server. so that must count for something.
[22:51] <fwereade> katco, sweet :D
[22:52] <katco> fwereade: this is going to be such an unholy abomination. i love it.
[22:53] <fwereade> katco, in principle, I heartily approve, but please be ready to pull the plug in case skynet
[22:53] <katco> fwereade: it's too late, dear william. it's already gotten to me.
[22:54] * fwereade welcomes our new robots overlords
[22:56] <perrito666> uh, robot overlords? sweet I could do with a break on all the thinking stuff
[22:57] <katco> perrito666: i was very happy to see you still using emacs in your tweet :)
[22:57] * perrito666 is as close to burnout as one can be before being actually burnt
[22:57] <perrito666> katco: it totally stuck this time, Just need to get a bit more proficient, but I am on a good path
[22:57] <katco> perrito666: good to hear
[22:58] <katco> perrito666: the packaging system + use-package is a great combination
[22:58] <perrito666> I might use a couple of hours of my holidays to learn a few tricks more
[22:58] <perrito666> and perhaps tune it a little more
[22:59] <katco> perrito666: this is a fun site: http://emacsrocks.com/
[22:59] <perrito666> I see you are not only working in new clients but also in retention :p
[23:00] <perrito666> my next conquest is to try to get a marker in the lines that are not git committed yet, which is a feature I miss a lot
[23:00] <katco> perrito666: i must do as the master suggests.
[23:03] <katco> perrito666: there might be something better, but a quick scan: https://github.com/nonsequitur/git-gutter-plus
[23:04] <perrito666> nice, actually I am going for something simpler, I am completely happy to use the command line for git :p
[23:05] <perrito666> I just want the +, ~ and - next to the line number
[23:05] <perrito666> Ill try all options I find :D
[23:05] <katco> perrito666: i highly recommend magit as a better way to git
[23:05] <perrito666> uhh, sweet, new github design
[23:06] <katco> perrito666: it's so nice. remind me to show you in dec. if you'd like
[23:06] <perrito666> katco: after years of git, I believe a better way to git is not to git at all :p
[23:06] <perrito666> katco: totally, I always dig learning new tools
[23:06] <katco> magit makes so many things much simpler
[23:06] <katco> i think any gui for git might
[23:06] <katco> but it's nice that it's built into emacs
[23:07] <perrito666> katco: Ill be honest here, the only git guis that I liked where for OSX
[23:07] <perrito666> and iirc, commercial :p
[23:08] <katco> magit might change your mind. it is really nice.
[23:08] <perrito666> git and diff displaying in general can benefit a lot from modern graphic paradigms
[23:08] <perrito666> but hey, in linux Ill take what I can get :p
[23:09] <katco> perrito666: with magit, you have a file you need to merge, you cursor down over the file, hit e and you get a side-by-side with merged at the bottom
[23:09] <katco> red/green highlighting, etc.
[23:10] * perrito666 watches screenshots
[23:11] <perrito666> I really dig stuff like this https://deeperdesign.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/screen-shot-2011-05-27-at-12-59-14-pm.png
[23:12] <katco> perrito666: here's what ediff looks like: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/issue27/gx/marsden/ediff-merge.gif
[23:12] <katco> perrito666: and then you hit a or b depending on which side you want merged
[23:12] <perrito666> is that motif?
[23:12] <katco> lol no idea
[23:13] <katco> the bottom is the merged version
[23:13] <perrito666> blast from the past :p but hey, I have seen worse, ill give it a shot
[23:33] <mup> Bug #1518480 opened: Invalid storage prevents machine removal <storage> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518480>
[23:33] <mup> Bug #1518482 opened: Invalid storage returned by storage-list causing charm breakage <storage> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518482>
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:07] <sverzegnassi> thanks again! good night
[02:13] <gerlowskija> Has anyone here had trouble sending text messages to groups of people. When I send messages from my bq phone, the message gets sent to each individual separately, and doesn't appear in the group message thread.
[02:13] <gerlowskija> Not really sure if this is a software issue, an issue w/ my phone/carrier combination, or a setting I'm not taking advantage of
[02:13] <gerlowskija> So just wondering whether others have seen this.
[02:46] <muka> I noticed that numeric keyboard has no negative sign. I think it should be added.
[05:11] <sagar> Hello
[05:12] <Guest27104> hello
[05:23] <RMJ> Hey
[05:39] <RMJ> Woohoo just got ota8 :)
[05:44] <RMJ> Bluetooth mouse works and external screen :)
[05:59] <RMJ> Hi All, just installed OTA8 and got it hooked up to an external screen and bluetooth mouse :) anyone have the link handy for filing bugs?
[06:32] <marcustomlinson> Is there anyone here who can un-ban thostr_ from this channel? Seems he can't join for some reason
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> marcustomlinson: leave a pm to popey
[06:34] <marcustomlinson> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[06:35] <OerHeks> better join #ubuntu-ops for that
[07:32] <M-davidar> Hi, I'm having trouble deploying apps to ubuntu-emulator - is anyone able to help?
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> M-davidar: you might idle here to devs are awake
[08:02] <M-davidar> ok, I got it running, but landscape isn't working :/
[08:03] <M-davidar> lotuspsychje: ok
[09:05] <mimi> Hey guys. Can someone tell me how to use AT-Commands on Ubuntu touch? Got an problem with my IMEI (have an Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition, changed to Android and now back). Under Android I could set the IMEI with an AT-Command. I Want to do the same under Ubuntu Touch now. Any Idea? /dev of modem and use echo to send commands?
[09:13] <robin-hero> Hey! I've just updated my phone to OTA-8 and I've found a bug. It doesn't remember my Wi-Fi network. I need to add the details every time. If I see it under the Previous Networks, I see my Network, and a new one with name like this: RobinH, RobinH 1, RobinH 2... etc.
[09:15] <RMj> Hmm which phone? I've just updated my N4 and it connected ok to one of my usual networks
[09:17] <davmor2> robin-hero: did you flash the device with mtktool at any point?
[09:17] <robin-hero> RMj: Nexus4
[09:17] <robin-hero> davmor2: mtktool? I don't know what is it :)
[09:17] <davmor2> robin-hero: ignore me then not going to be that
[09:18] <RMj> Same as me, I just updated it via the phone itself, you?
[09:18] <davmor2> robin-hero: can you try forgetting all the networks and then add it again a fresh please, it might be that the config got screwed up
[09:19] <robin-hero> davmor2: Yes, I tried it many times. If I turn off the Wifi, then turn on it doesn't connect anymore. I need to connect by hand, and I need to add the details again
[09:35] <popey> thostr_, sorry I banned someone else and clearly used too wide a ban :)
[09:41] <mimi> Anybody an idea what /dev device on ubuntu touch is the modem that listens to AT-Commands?
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day! 😃
[10:52] <sam___> hellllo
[10:53] <sam___> is there anyone who has ported ubuntu touch to samsung galaxy j5
[11:37] <robin-hero> davmor2: I've just flashed my phone (--wipe and --bootstrap, stable channel) again, but I still have the bug.
[11:40] <davmor2> robin-hero: yes I would imagine that somehow your device has lost it's mac address for the wifi
[11:40] <robin-hero> davmor2: Can I test it somehow?
[11:40] <davmor2> robin-hero: run nmcli -d and get the mac address for the phone. Then reboot and then run the same command and see if the mac is different
[11:41] <davmor2> for the wifi not the phone sorry
[11:42] <robin-hero> davmor2: option '-d' is uknown
[11:43] <robin-hero> Hmm, but it's there in the help section...
[11:45] <davmor2> robin-hero: it is just d but that doesn't give the mac details which I thought it did give me 5
[11:46] <robin-hero> OK
[11:49] <davmor2> robin-hero: ah there you go ifconfig tells you on wlan0 just jot down the hwaddr
[11:50] <davmor2> robin-hero: then reboot and see if it is the same
[11:58] <robin-hero> davmor2: Yes, this is the problem:
[11:58] <robin-hero> firt: 00:11:22:55:6b:5 second: 00:11:22:a2:80:9
[11:58] <robin-hero> *first
[12:00] <davmor2> robin-hero: right not sure if you can find out what the original mac address was from somewhere, without it you can't change it. At a push I guess you could reflash android and see if that fixes it
[12:00] <davmor2> john-mcaleely: ^ any clue on that one for a mako?
[12:53] <Innercode> Hi 'm getting headaches about my apparmor problem. I've updated my BQ4.5 to OTA-8 and my desktop have the latest updates as well. When I create a new HTML5 app and run it on my phone no styles or js are applied because apparmor denied it. The bug is registered here (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1477580) but the state is fixed. When I run the app on my desktop it's ok. How can I fix
[13:12] <EdwardMorbius> hello, book aggregator scope in ota-8 where is it? I cant find it in list of scopes, I am probably missing something XD
[13:52] <davmor2> EdwardMorbius: there might not be one, there is an openlibrary scope I think
[13:52] <EdwardMorbius> davmor2 then the description of ota-8 is a bit misleading :) I will check that scope then
[13:53] <davidcalle> EdwardMorbius, davmor2, the openlibrary one is old-ish, but release notes for ota8 are mentioning a new one, haven't found it so far
[13:53] <EdwardMorbius> davidcalle me neither on the phone or in the store so its a bit confusing
[13:53] <davidcalle> sil2100, is it only on some images? ^
[13:54] <davidcalle> s/images/channels
[13:54] <davmor2> davidcalle: I think it is meant to be address book
[13:54] <davmor2> sil2100: ^
[13:54] <k1l_> seems like the bq phones are now in the usbids database. so a "sudo update-usbids" solves the issue that its not recognized by the computer.
[13:55] <k1l_> but why did bq not request a usbid entry in the beginning?
[13:55] <davidcalle> davmor2, this would make sense
[13:56] <davmor2> davidcalle, EdwardMorbius: there is a new address book and calls/text/telegram aggregater
[13:57] <davmor2> so I assume sil2100 just missed address from that line
[13:57] <EdwardMorbius> New Book aggregator scope, with lots of regional content
[13:57] <EdwardMorbius> this doesnt sound like an address book? :))
[13:58] <davmor2> EdwardMorbius: where are you reading that
[13:58] <EdwardMorbius> davnor2 https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/11/19/phone-update-ota-8/?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Insights%20blog&utm_campaign=OTA-8&
[14:01] <davmor2> hmmmm
[14:12] <Innercode> I've resetted my phone to factory default. Problem persists.
[14:37] <davmor2> Innercode: you might be better off asking on #ubuntu-app-devel as there might be other people there who have hit similar issues
[14:38] <Innercode> davmor2: Thanks!!! I didn't know that that channel exists :)
[14:50] <awe> Mirv, is there a bzr or git tree for our qtbase package?
[14:50] <awe> or is it just directly uploaded?
[14:52] <awe> tvoss, looks like we have a fix for the Qt side of the DBus flood
[14:52] <awe> pmcgowan, is a hotfix still on the table for both?
[14:52] <awe> ( location-services/dbus-cpp & qtbase )
[14:54] <pmcgowan> awe, yes
[14:54] <Mirv> awe: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtbase.git/log/?h=ubuntu - that's 5.5 however, 5.4 is just maintained locally / direct uploads. all changes need to go in 5.4.1 (overlay), 5.4.2 (xenial) and 5.5 (to-be-xenial)
[14:54] <Mirv> awe: all repos linked at https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjuCdq68GSyVdFI4QzNQdWpfME5aMEV2VXo0cUpOMkE
[14:55] <Mirv> (at the bottom)
[14:55] <awe> yikes
[14:55] <Mirv> welcome to Qt :)
[14:56] <awe> Mirv, uh yea... a week ago this time, I couldn't spell it
[14:56] <awe> Mirv, that said... looks like between myself and Lorn, we have a potential fix. I need to do some cleanup
[14:56] <awe> can I then hand it off to you for silo prep?
[14:57] <Mirv> awe: yes, I can take care of anything, especially you don't want to know about the -gles twin packages for all three versions :)
[14:57] <awe> haha
[14:57] <Mirv> so silo, builds, I'll just shout when a silo is ready for testing
[14:58] <awe> great. I'll work on cleaning up the patch this afternoon then and we can work on getting a silo up early next week
[15:07] <tvoss> awe, I'm preparing dual landings right now, early next week sounds good to me
[15:08] <tvoss> awe, also: \o/
[15:08] <tvoss> Mirv, awe should we call for testing early next week? specifically as the qt stuff touches in core dbus behavior?
[15:12] <tvoss> pmcgowan, ^
[15:14] <pmcgowan> tvoss, sure we can
[15:28] <awe> pmcgowan, tvoss, maybe we should pow-wow on Mon or Tue to come up with a plan? fyi QA's been given an informal heads-up
[15:28] <pmcgowan> awe, we have an rtm call on tue, we could do it then
[15:29] <awe> hangout or call?
[15:29] <awe> that could work
[15:29] <pmcgowan> awe, will add you guys
[15:30] <awe> k
[15:31] <tvoss> awe, pmcgowan ack
[15:36] <egon1> hi
[15:37] <egon1> someone can me tell please why i can not install new apps on my ubutuphone?
[15:37] <dobey> can you specify the exact error you are seeing?
[15:37] <egon1> the phone says can not connect with the ubuntu-account
[15:38] <egon1> but email and password are right
[15:38] <egon1> bq aquaris phone
[15:38] <dobey> you can't log in to ubuntuone you mean?
[15:40] <egon1> dobey: yes so is it
[15:40] <egon1> sorry for my bad english
[15:40] <dobey> egon1: and you get an error message inside the window, that is colored red?
[15:43] <egon1> dobey: he sayd 'Anmeldefehler' german language
[15:44] <k1l_> login error, roughly translated
[15:44] <egon1> +Logon failure
[15:47] <dobey> egon1: is the time correct on your phone? Make sure you have it set to "Automatic" in the settings
[15:51] <egon1> dobey: thanyou... that was all now it's working
[15:52] <dobey> np
[15:56] <adam_from_farfar> hi guys :)
[15:56] <adam_from_farfar> Whenever I try to deploy the app, I am getting the error coming from python script that module ubuntuuitoolkit does not exist
[15:58] <adam_from_farfar> any hits? This module seem not to be valid according to pip. It's also not Ubuntu module. There is ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot but it does not provide that module :/
[16:05] <dobey> adam_from_farfar: #ubuntu-app-devel might be a better place to ask about app dev questions
[16:06] <dobey> adam_from_farfar: sounds like you're trying to run autopilot tests and you import that module in your autopilot tests, though
[16:06] <dobey> so you probably need to declare that dependency in the manifest, for autopkgtests
[16:17] <adam_from_farfar> dobey: Nothing like this. Ive just installed Ubuntu SDK, created minimal Hello World application (qt quick) and press run (on a phone). That is is. The message appears during automatic deployment.
[16:18] <dobey> adam_from_farfar: ok, i'm not sure python should be invovled for that. i suggest asking in #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:20] <adam_from_farfar> This is what I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13367627/
[16:48] <dobey> adam_from_farfar: yeah, it's trying to do something with autopilot. it tells you how to disable that for now
[16:48] <dobey> anyway, #ubuntu-app-devel will have better help for that side of things :)
[16:50] <adam_from_farfar> cheers!
[17:26] <vitimiti> Hey, cheers for the webbrowser-app now properly opening links in a new tab in the background without the need to manually change to the new tab to continue using the browser properly
[18:53] <nhaines> ogra_: thanks for all the hard work you do for Ubuntu, especially for being patient while I asked you the same two questions about phone 15.04 -> 15.10/snappy every different way I could think of while I was writing my book!
[19:00] <dobey> lol
[20:44] <taiebot> Hi i still do not get the date on Today scope on nexus 4 rc-proposed am i the only one seeing this. Also thanks for the nearby scopes in the store
[20:52] <mcphail> In the browser app on OTA8, only one of my "top sites" has a thumbnail attached to it. The rest are blank placeholders and look ugly. Can I fix this?
[21:24] <pmcgowan> mcphail, if you long press you can remove them, but unfortunately older ones will take their place
[21:24] <pmcgowan> I filed a bug a while back
[21:26] <mcphail> pmcgowan: cheers!
[21:27] <pmcgowan> mcphail, we could probably nuke the cache somewhere, will find out
[21:27] <mcphail> pmcgowan: yes - don't want to destry my bookmarks, though
[21:28] <pmcgowan> right will check tomorrow
[21:28] <mcphail> many thanks
[21:39] <mcphail> can someone remind me how I start an app from the shell?
[21:39] <dobey> ubuntu-app-launch $appid
[21:39] <mcphail> dobey: cheers
[21:53] <niekas> "More Ubuntu phones coming soon…" < When could be this "soon"?
[21:56] <dobey> a point prior to the heat death of the universe
[22:36] <andygraybeal> hey this might ultra dumb, but will ubuntu-touch run instagram and square point-of-sale app?
[22:42] <popey> andygraybeal, those sound like android apps, we don't (currently) support running android apps
[22:42] <andygraybeal> k thank you
[22:43] <andygraybeal> :)
[22:45] <marcus0> hi, i'm trying to install touch on my nexus7 but the repository is unavailable ? http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/ubuntu-nexus7-installer/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-i386/Packages
[22:57] <mcphail> popey: ...currently?
[22:59] <marcus0> yes. i think the correct dist is raring, right?
[22:59] <mcphail> Is there any possiblity of dropping MTP and moving to USB mass storage?
[23:06] <popey> mcphail, well done for picking up on that :)
[23:07] <popey> also, fyi. quake runs like dogpoo in dosbox on the e4.5 :D
[23:07] <popey> I mean, it _runs_ http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-20-121431.png
[23:09] <mcphail> popey: yes - looks like software mode
[23:09] <mcphail> popey: baldur's gate is segfaulting after character creation
[23:10] <popey> scummvm is giving me "Bus error"
[23:10] <popey> which is odd
[23:11] <mcphail> It would be great if a real developer would start porting some games ;p
[23:11] * mcphail ducks
[23:11] <popey> as opposed to us amateurs ?
[23:12] <mcphail> yep. I'm sooo out of my depth
[23:12] <popey> heh ditto
[23:12] <mcphail> Don't hink you'll get unmodified quake to run well as it really needs opengl
[23:13] <popey> yeah, well this was just me being silly :)
[23:13] <mcphail> https://github.com/jackpal/glesquake
[23:16] <mcphail> my life would be much easier if I could just drag and drop these bg files onto the device, but MTP is being annoying (as usual)
[23:16] * popey breaks out strace on scummvm
[23:16] <popey> i use scp
[23:16] <popey> and hack directly on device over ssh rather than rebuild clicks
[23:16] <popey> sudo hacking in /opt and then pull the data off
[23:16] <mcphail> hardcore :)
[23:16] <popey> hah
[23:16] <popey> lazy
[23:17] <popey> I know mtp sucks
[23:17] <popey> not going down that road
[23:17] <mcphail> how do you activate ssh on the device?
[23:18] <mcphail> (or are you scp'ing the other way?)
[23:19] <popey> https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter1.html
[23:19] <popey> both ways
[23:19] <popey> adb shell android-gadget-service enable ssh
[23:19] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/348714/how-can-i-access-my-ubuntu-phone-over-ssh/599041#599041
[23:19] <popey> written by our own ogra_
[23:20] <mcphail> does that just open ssh over wlan, or over 3g as well? DOn't fancy the latter
[23:20] <popey> yeah, i think it's global
[23:20] <mcphail> yuck
[23:21] <mcphail> not great with a 4 digit pin. Is password auth disabled by default?
[23:21] <popey> you can set passphrase
[23:21] <popey> rather than pincode
[23:22] <mcphail> true
[23:56] <nhaines> mcphail: wait, I thought Baldur's Gate was a Windows game.
[23:58] <mcphail> nhaines: popey: not any more :) http://themcphails.uk/bg.png
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[15:21] <alan_g> Hmm. Mako started reporting spurious "plug/unplug" of external display making me think my changes broke something. But reverting didn't fix. So I powered off. Now it says it hasn't enough juice to start up again. I hate hardware!
[16:24] <alan_g> and now it reports a full charge!
[19:56] <dandrader> AlbertA, where do the server gets the size hints (min max size, size increment) set by the client in that MirSurfaceSpec?
[20:05] <dandrader> AlbertA, found it. it's in include/server/mir/shell/window_manager.h
[20:11] <AlbertA> dandrader: right it should be in the SurfaceCreationParameters if creating surface or in SurfaceSpecification if modifying one
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:17] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[00:20] <razGon_LeO660M> 장난 아니엿네요. 어제.ㅋ
[00:29] <ipeter> 절이 싫으면 중이 떠나야겠지요?
[00:30] <ipeter> 근데 직장인이면 제가 매달릴 수 밖에 없겠죠.
[00:33] <autowiz> 어제 야구는 꽤나 아슬아슬한 경우가 망느거 같군요 ㅎㅎ
[00:33] <autowiz> 많은거
[00:42] <jgs> 어제 야구때문에 일본 위키에서 감독 국적 한국으로 바꾸는 반달도 일어났다고 하네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[00:42] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[00:42] <ipeter> 오타니가 어제 8회까지 던지게 했나요?
[00:43] <ipeter> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[00:43] <ipeter> 왜 바꾼거죠?
[00:46] <jgs> 어 스포츠서울에서 사고쳤네욬ㅋㅋㅋpic.twitter.com/JsB2VdzpWH
[00:46] <jgs> pic.
[00:46] <HolyKnight> 링크쩜
[00:46] <jgs> 어 링크 왜이러지
[00:46] <jgs> 잠시만요
[00:46] <jgs> https://twitter.com/Wandava/status/667494791416967168/photo/1
[00:49] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[00:49] <HolyKnight> ㄱㅅㄱㅅ
[00:56] <razGon_LeO660M> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[00:56] <razGon_LeO660M> 스포츠 서울 일본거 아닌지?
[01:04] <autowiz> 졌다는 말은 없으니까 ㅋㅋ 7이닝까지 1안타에 대한 기사라고 핑계를 댈 수 도 있을려나요 ㅎㅎ
[01:18] <MENT> 죄송합니다, 이 페이지는 존재하지 않습니다!
[01:18] <MENT> 아래의 검색 상자를 사용해서 트위터를 검색하거나 홈페이지로 돌아갈 수 있습니다.
[01:18] <MENT> 엥
[01:18] <MENT> 그 사이
[01:18] <MENT> 지워진건가요
[01:19] <Work^Seony> 트윗 삭제한듯 싶네요
[01:32] <MENT> 아 ㅎㅎ
[02:16] <samahui_WS> 불금!! 즐겁게 보내세요~
[02:31] <Work^Seony> 음... 포테토님 빨리 오셔야 뭣 좀 물어보는데 ㅎㅎ
[02:31] <Work^Seony> ldap은 쿼리 날리는게 참 어려워요
[02:31] <autowiz> 사무실 이사하신다고 바쁘신거 같은 ㅠㅠ
[02:32] <autowiz> 전화번호를 받아놔야 겠습니다 ㅋㅋ
[02:32] <autowiz> PotatoGim ~~ ~~ 계세요~~
[02:32] <autowiz> PotatoGim ~~ ~~ 계세요~~
[02:32] <autowiz> PotatoGim ~~ ~~ 계세요~~
[02:32] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋㅌ
[03:07] <HolyKnight> 트윗펌. 공공SW 하도급 금지 놓고 업계 반발, 국내 SW개발사 입지를 축소시킬 것이라는 우려 http://www.etnews.com/20151119000412?SNS=00001 비정규직 브로커리지의 입지를 걱정하는 것 아닌가? -_-;
[03:12] <PotatoGim> autowiz: 있습닏!
[03:12] <autowiz> 12시 넘어쓔ㅠ
[03:12] <autowiz> 넘었 ㅠㅠ 이번엔 서니님이 집에 가셨을듯
[03:12] <MENT> 장기매매집단이 잡혔다네요.
[03:13] <autowiz> 자 포테토님은 010-4211-2359 로 전화번호를 보내주시지요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[03:13] <PotatoGim> 윽... 시간이 안 맞는군요;
[03:13] <MENT> 부산에서 잡혀서 뉴스에 막 나오더라고요.
[03:13] <autowiz> 제가 감사히 저장하도록하겠습니다.
[03:13] <PotatoGim> 헉..
[03:13] <autowiz> HolyKnight: 저 위에 하도급문제 기사가 좀 이상하네요. 2차 3차 4차 하도급이 제일 문제인데
[03:14] <MENT> 음...
[03:14] <autowiz> 마더업체 , 실제 개발업체 구조만 되도 정말 먹고 살만 할거 같거든요 ㅋㅋ
[03:14] <MENT> 저는 아직 읽어보고 있었는뎅
[03:14] <MENT> 하도급 못하게 하면 그만큼
[03:14] <MENT> 일자리가 줄어든다는 건가요
[03:15] <MENT> 다단계하도급 제한이 그거 아닌가요
[03:15] <MENT> 1차가 2차로 넘기고 2차가 3차로 넘기고
[03:15] <autowiz> 네 너무 뒤로까지 가니까 문제가 되는경우가 많아서
[03:16] <MENT> 4차쯤 되면 컥...
[03:16] <autowiz> 제가 보기엔 마더업체랑 중간 업체들이 돈을 너무 먹는...
[03:17] <MENT> 플랫폼을 자기들이 깔았으니 자기들이 대부분 다 먹겠다는 거 아닌가여 '-'
[03:19] <MENT> 4차쯤 가면
[03:19] <MENT> 죽어라 일하고
[03:19] <MENT> 조금 벌고...
[03:22] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[03:24] <MENT> 하청업체 기술 훔쳐가고 그러기도 하지 않나요.
[03:24] <MENT> 대기업 다니면서 동창회 가서 작은 회사하는 친구들 속여서 기술 빼가고 그런거도 있더라구여
[03:25] <MENT> 친구가 아니라 뭐라해야하죠 음 동창...
[03:25] <MENT> 그리고 자기는 승진하고
[03:25] <MENT> 컥...
[03:47] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[04:30] <commania_> 음
[04:30] <commania> 왜 닉에 언더스코어가 붙어있지
[04:31] <commania> 이번 28일 나눔행사에 참여합니다.
[04:31] <commania> 서울가는김에...
[04:31] <MENT> 오
[04:31] <MENT> 어디로 오세요
[04:31] <commania> 토즈강남점 아닌가요?
[04:32] <MENT> 정모 같은거 하시나요
[04:32] <MENT> 저 이 채널 온지 얼마 안되어서요
[04:33] <commania> 아..
[04:33] <commania> https://forum.ubuntu-kr.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=28343
[04:33] <commania> 매달 있는 행사입니다.
[04:33] <commania> 저는 지방에 살아서 가끔 서울올라가면 참여하고요.
[04:34] <MENT> 저 우분투 아얘 모르는 초짜인데 가도 되려나요 컥
[04:34] <MENT> 아 매달 있군요
[04:35] <MENT> 가깝네요! 그런데 제가 가면 민폐일 것 같아서 컥...
[04:35] <commania> 아예 몰라도 상관없어요
[04:35] <MENT> ㅎㅎ
[04:36] <commania> 전문가만 오는게 아니라 우분투가 궁금한 사람들이나 중고등학생들도 자주 옵니다.
[04:36] <MENT> 아
[04:36] <commania> 그렇다고 우분투 이야기만 하는 건 아니고요,
[04:36] <MENT> 그렇군요
[04:36] <MENT> +_+
[04:37] <MENT> SW쪽은 잘 몰라서요. 사실 저번에
[04:37] <MENT> DEVIEW컨퍼런스 갔었는데
[04:37] <commania> 이번달 주제는
[04:37] <MENT> 뭐라는지 못알아먹겠더라고요
[04:37] <MENT> 넹
[04:37] <commania> 진행순서
[04:37] <commania> - 행사 소개 및 인사
[04:37] <commania> - 첫번째 : How to Debug, by Sechul Park
[04:37] <commania> - 두번째 : Report Wordpress Study, by Hyungmin Park
[04:37] <commania> - 토론 : Developer License vs User License
[04:37] <commania> - 세번째 : New era of Content Creator with Unity, by Unity3D Korea
[04:37] <commania> - Give & Take
[04:37] <commania> - 마무리 인사
[04:37] <commania> 이렇게 되어 있네요.
[04:37] <MENT> 음
[04:37] <MENT> 저는 대학생인데요
[04:37] <MENT> 참가비는
[04:37] <MENT> 음...
[04:38] <MENT> 중고등학생은
[04:38] <commania> 저도 대학생입니다. 성인 참가비 받더라고요.
[04:38] <MENT> 오천원인데 음
[04:38] <MENT> 성인은
[04:38] <commania> 말 그대로 중고등학생만 5천원입니다.
[04:38] <MENT> 음 얼마 정도가 적당할까요 책정되어있지 않은 것 같아서요
[04:38] <commania> 초등학생이 얼마냐 물어보시면 저도 모르지만(...)
[04:38] <commania> 대학생 이상 성인은
[04:39] <commania> 대부분 그냥 2만원 내시는 것 같던데요.
[04:39] <HolyKnight> : 소개팅의 무서움.jpg http://pic.twitter.com/A48g0cj3uC
[04:39] <MENT> 앗
[04:40] <MENT> 감사합니다
[04:40] <commania> MENT, 혹시 대학생이시면 컴퓨터 전공이신가요?
[04:40] <MENT> 저는
[04:40] <MENT> 기계공이요
[04:41] <commania> 저도 초등학교때는 커서 기계공 갈 줄 알았죠ㅎㅎ
[04:41] <MENT> ㅎㅎ
[04:41] <commania> 중학교 와서 우분투를 접하면서
[04:41] <commania> 컴덕의 길로..
[04:42] <MENT> 저는 컴퓨터는 잘 몰라요
[04:42] <MENT> MATLAB이랑
[04:42] <MENT> C랑 AVR정도만
[04:42] <MENT> 해봤어요
[04:42] <MENT> 아두이노 가지고 있고요. 음
[04:42] <commania> 전 사실 아직 1학년이라 C도 기초수준이어요...
[04:43] <commania> 결국 컴덕이랑 개발자는 다르더라고요
[04:43] <MENT> 아두이노는 오픈소스라
[04:43] <MENT> 로직을 짜기보다 그냥
[04:43] <commania> 아두이노는... 이번 학기 기말프로젝트로
[04:43] <MENT> 구글링해서 긁어쓰는게 대부분이고
[04:43] <commania> 교수님이 학생들에게 한 세트씩 던져주고
[04:43] <MENT> C도 1학년때만 하고 그 뒤로 안배워서요
[04:43] <commania> 뭐 만들어오라 하셔서
[04:43] <commania> 만져보고있습니다ㅎㅎ
[04:44] <MENT> 연산이나 그런거도 C++로 안하고 그냥 다 MATLAB으로 해버려서 코딩력이 곶자입니다.
[04:44] <MENT> 음
[04:44] <commania> 저흰 1학년때 C를 안 배워요. 공학수학/물리와 교양과목만 하고...
[04:44] <MENT> 1학년때
[04:44] <MENT> 공학수학을 해요?
[04:44] <MENT> ㄷㄷ
[04:44] <commania> 컴공인데
[04:44] <commania> 저희 학교는 특이하게
[04:44] <MENT> 보통 1학년이면 미적분학이나 선형대수 하지 않나요 음
[04:45] <commania> 학부제로 1학년을 전자과와 똑같이 듣습니다
[04:45] <MENT> 컴공이면 이산수학 같은거요
[04:45] <commania> 미적은 1학기때 했습니다.
[04:45] <MENT> 공학수학
[04:45] <MENT> 교재가 뭐에요
[04:45] <MENT> 미적을 1학년 1학기때 한권을 다 떼요?
[04:45] <MENT> 컥
[04:45] <commania> Dennis G. Zill의 Advanced Engineering Mathematics입니다.
[04:46] <commania> 5판
[04:46] <MENT> 아
[04:46] <MENT> zill 저도
[04:46] <MENT> 가지고 있어요
[04:46] <MENT> 저도 그걸로
[04:46] <commania> 미적은 1학기때
[04:46] <MENT> 배웠거든요
[04:46] <commania> 반권하고
[04:46] <commania> 2학기땐 저희과는 공학수학으로 가고
[04:46] <MENT> 저도 1학년때 zill봤었는데 그거는 그냥
[04:46] <MENT> 독학이었거든요
[04:46] <MENT> 1학년때부터 zill이라니.. 컥
[04:46] <commania> 다른 과는 2학기에도 미적 나머지부분 하는걸로 알고 있습니다.
[04:46] <MENT> 빠르네요
[04:47] <commania> 사실상 수업 난이도는 전자에 맞춰져있으니까요
[04:47] <MENT> 전자공학과는 제가 잘 몰라요. 접점이
[04:47] <MENT> 마이크로컨트롤러랑
[04:47] <MENT> 플라스모닉 정도요
[04:49] <commania> 어우...
[04:49] <MENT> 기계공학이랑 전자과 연결된거는요
[04:49] <commania> 아침부터 고장난 24인치 모니터들고
[04:49] <commania> 버스타고 학교왔더니
[04:49] <commania> 수전증이;
[04:49] <MENT> ....
[04:49] <MENT> 24인치 모니터를
[04:49] <MENT> ...
[04:49] <commania> 타자치면서도 계속 떨리네요
[04:49] <MENT> 덜덜
[04:49] <commania> 학교오다가 도중에 삼성 서비스에 맡기고
[04:49] <MENT> 왜 그러셨어여
[04:49] <MENT> 컥
[04:49] <MENT> 아
[04:49] <MENT> ㅎㅎ
[04:49] <commania> 다시 타고 왔거든요
[04:50] <MENT> ㅎㅎ
[04:50] <commania> 올해 2월에 샀는데
[04:50] <commania> AD보드가 맛탱이가 갔는지
[04:50] <commania> 예열(?)을 해야 정상 작동하더라고요
[04:50] <commania> 그니까 아침에 일어나서 켜면 10분쯤 작동하다 픽 꺼지고
[04:51] <commania> 전원을 뽑았다 다시 연결해야 다시 들어오고
[04:51] <commania> 그 뒤로는 하루 종일 잘 작동하다
[04:51] <commania> 오랫동안 꺼 두면 또 그러고..
[04:51] <MENT> 음
[04:51] <commania> 급기야 몇주 전부터는 켜져 있는 상태에서 전원LED가 깜빡거리길래
[04:51] <MENT> 갈 때가
[04:51] <MENT> 된 거 아닐까요
[04:51] <commania> 올해 2월에 구입했습니다...
[04:51] <MENT> 컥
[04:51] <MENT> 그건 음
[04:51] <MENT> 뽑기가
[04:51] <MENT> 컥
[04:51] <commania> 전에 쓰던 LG 22인치가
[04:51] <commania> 비슷한 증상으로 갔죠
[04:52] <commania> 사설수리했는데 그 이후로
[04:52] <commania> 화면 떨림 증상이 있어서
[04:52] <commania> 그냥 갖다 버리고 대학 입학하면서 새로 산건데 말입니다.
[04:53] <MENT> 컥
[04:53] <MENT> 음...
[04:53] <MENT> 삼성 모니터인가요 저는
[04:54] <MENT> 델 모니터
[04:54] <MENT> 살까 생각중이에요
[04:54] <MENT> 노트북은
[04:54] <MENT> 레노버 껄로 바꿀까 생각중이에여
[04:54] <MENT> 1학년때 있던 랩실에서
[04:54] <MENT> 노트북 하나 사준댔는데
[04:54] <commania> 레노버는 TP죠
[04:54] <MENT> 거절하고 제가 벌어서 장만했었는데
[04:54] <MENT> 이놈이제
[04:54] <MENT> 수명이...
[04:54] <MENT> 소음이 일단 심해서요
[04:54] <MENT> ODD 맛갔고
[04:54] <commania> 그럼 지금 상당히 고학년이시겠네요
[04:54] <MENT> USB포트하나 맛갔고
[04:54] <MENT> 그렇죠
[04:54] <MENT> 저는 늙은거에요
[04:54] <MENT> ㅎㅎ
[04:55] <MENT> 아니 음
[04:55] <MENT> 그렇지도 않아요 따지고 보면 음
[04:55] <MENT> 그렇다고 믿고싶네요
[04:55] <commania> 2010년부터 리눅스를 썼고 2011년에 삼성 노트북을 샀는데
[04:55] <commania> 우분투 13.04까지는 항상 어디가 말썽이어서 노트북에선 우분투를 못돌렸죠..
[04:56] <commania> 그 노트북을 올해 가을까지 썼는데 결국 하드웨어도 오래되서 보드고장으로
[04:56] <commania> 툭 치면 꺼지고, ODD도 맛가고...
[04:56] <MENT> 제 노트북이
[04:56] <MENT> 그냥 델노트북이에여
[04:57] <MENT> 음
[04:57] <MENT> 한
[04:57] <MENT> 쓴 거 따지면
[04:57] <MENT> 3년 썼네요
[04:57] <commania> 결국 중고 X220을 사서 지금 사용하고 있습니다.
[04:57] <commania> 결론은 씽패 사세요
[04:57] <commania> 트랙포인트가 은근히 편합니다ㅋㅋ
[04:58] <MENT> X220 튜닝해서
[04:58] <MENT> 110에 파는 사람 인터넷에 있네요 ㄷㄷ
[04:58] <commania> ㄹㅇㅋ님이겠네요
[04:59] <MENT> 넹
[04:59] <MENT> 제꺼는 i7에 램4기가 짜리였는데
[04:59] <MENT> 램 8기가 짜리 걍 하나
[04:59] <MENT> 끼워서
[04:59] <MENT> 12기가 만들어서 쓰고 있어여
[04:59] <MENT> 아무래도 4기가로는 이런저런 프로그램 굴리기가
[04:59] <commania> i7 CTO에 FHD IPS, mSATA3 SSD, LTE모뎀 등등 끼워서
[04:59] <MENT> 힘들더라고요
[04:59] <commania> 파시는분이죠
[04:59] <MENT> 아
[04:59] <MENT> 그렇군요
[05:00] <MENT> 그런데 아무래도
[05:00] <MENT> 노트북i7이라 해봐야
[05:00] <MENT> 데스크탑 i5보다 떨어지는 것 같아요
[05:00] <commania> 근데 전 저 개조씽패 가격은 둘째치고 와이어링 떡칠한 '개조'인지라...
[05:00] <MENT> 물론 제 i7은 구모델이니 제꺼 말하는게 아니라 음 다른 분들이 그러시더라고요
[05:00] <commania> 안정성이 의심되더라고요.
[05:00] <MENT> 전 데탑 안쓴지 오래되서 그러려니 하고 쓰고 있어요
[05:00] <MENT> 음
[05:01] <commania> 저도 데탑은
[05:01] <commania> 지방 내려오면서 본가에 두고와서요ㅋㅋ
[05:02] <commania> 동생이 쓰고 있는데 코어2쿼드 Q8400인데 여전히 게임도 잘 돌아간다는거보면
[05:02] <commania> 요즘 PC 사양 발전이 주춤한 덕에 구형이나 저사양 모델도 쾌적하게 사용이 되죠
[05:02] <MENT> 근데 X220
[05:02] <MENT> 너무 비싸게 파시는거 아니신지
[05:02] <MENT> 110이라...
[05:02] <MENT> 프리도스로 110이면 괜찮은 노트북 살텐데
[05:02] <MENT> 말이죠
[05:02] <commania> 개조 과정이 전부 수작업이라...
[05:03] <commania> 솔직히 7열 키패드 성애자가 아니면 합리적 선택은 아니죠;;
[05:03] <commania> 그래서 전 그냥 4기가 320GB하드 모델 중고로 사서
[05:03] <commania> 고장난 삼성노트북에서 램 하나랑 SSD 떼서 쓰고 있습니다.
[05:04] <commania> 중고 씽패에 있던 램과 삼성노트북에 있던 램이 같은 모델에 생산주차도 비슷하더라고요.
[05:04] <MENT> 그렇군요
[05:04] <MENT> 전 삼성노트북은 너무 비싸서 못사겠어요
[05:04] <MENT> msi는
[05:05] <MENT> 디게 비싸졌더라고요
[05:05] <MENT> 옛날에 비해
[05:05] <commania> 뭐 제가 2011년 당시에 산것도
[05:05] <commania> 사실상 품질은 중국산 화이트박스와 다를거 없는
[05:05] <commania> 원가절감형 모델이었죠
[05:05] <MENT> 제가 이 노트북 샀을 때 신품으로 85줬거든요
[05:05] <commania> 내구도도 엉망이어서 보드 크랙으로 램슬롯 하나가 인식이 안 된 적도 있었고요
[05:05] <MENT> 흠
[05:06] <commania> 11년 말에 i5 2410M에 외장그래픽까지 달고
[05:06] <commania> 82만원에 팔았으니까요
[05:06] <MENT> 외장그래픽도 있나요
[05:06] <commania> msi나 asus에 비하면 비싼건 사실이었지만
[05:06] <commania> 삼성치고는 매우 착한 가격으로...
[05:06] <MENT> 넹
[05:07] <commania> 사실 지금 쓰고 있는 X220이 그 당시부터 갖고 싶었었죠
[05:07] <commania> 근데 가격이 당시엔 100을 훌쩍 넘어서
[05:07] <MENT> 컥
[05:07] <MENT> 100...
[05:08] <autowiz> 크헐
[05:08] <autowiz> 소개팅 무섭네요 ㅠㅠ
[05:08] <commania> 5세대모델인 X250 가격 보시면
[05:08] <commania> 이것저것 넣으면 150도 금방 넘습니다.
[05:08] <MENT> ㅜㅜ
[05:08] <MENT> 저는 레노버
[05:08] <MENT> 저번에 나온
[05:08] <MENT> 카본 어쩌고 하는게
[05:08] <MENT> 음
[05:09] <MENT> 디게 비싸더라고요 그건
[05:09] <commania> 미산 CTO 견적 내보니 1500달러를 순식간에 돌파해서 포기...
[05:09] <MENT> ㄷㄷ
[05:09] <commania> 카본은...
[05:09] <commania> 얇은게 장점이긴 한데
[05:10] <commania> 아 소개팅...
[05:10] <commania> 이제 대학 1학년 막바지에 다다르면서
[05:10] <commania> 그래도 소개팅이라도 한번 해볼걸... 하는 생각이 듭니다
[05:11] <MENT> 헉
[05:11] <MENT> 소개팅...
[05:11] <MENT> 주륵
[05:11] <MENT> ㅠㅠ
[05:11] <MENT> 소개팅
[05:11] <MENT> ...
[05:11] <autowiz> 아직은 많이 남았지요
[05:11] <MENT> ㅎㅎ
[05:11] <autowiz> 대학졸업하면 정말 더 힘들어집니다 ㅠㅠ
[05:13] <commania> 내년엔 군대가야되죠ㅜ
[05:13] <commania> 공익이긴한데
[05:13] <commania> 거기도 남자만 있는건 똑같...
[05:14] <MENT> 공익 ㄷㄷ
[05:16] <MENT> 지금이
[05:16] <MENT> 인텔 몇세대 제품 나왔나여
[05:16] <MENT> 음
[05:17] <doongi> 여긴 한국분도
[05:17] <doongi> 계신가용
[05:17] <MENT> ubuntu-ko에
[05:17] <MENT> ko가 korea 아니었나여
[05:18] <doongi> -그러네요 ㅎㅎ
[05:18] <doongi> - 서버 세팅때문에 리눅스를 몇법이나 재설치했다능..
[05:19] <razGon_Xch2> 도메인의 종류가 많아 졋네요
[05:19] <razGon_Xch2> 직종별루.
[05:20] <autowiz>
[05:20] <doongi> -레드마인 에서 svn 연동하는데 404 리비전 에러가 나는데 혹시 알고 계신분 계신가요? 저는 우분투14 사용중입니다만..
[05:21] <autowiz> 죄송합니다 ㅠㅠ
[05:22] <commania> 지금이 6세대 스카이레이크 아닌가요?
[05:22] <autowiz> 패키지있던게 데이터만 저위치에서 돌아갔던거 아니야?
[05:23] <autowiz> 어 여기가 아니네요 죄송합니다 ㅋㅋ
[05:32] <MENT> 헙
[05:32] <MENT> 요번에
[05:32] <MENT> 한성에서 나온
[05:32] <MENT> 보스몬스터 신제품
[05:32] <MENT> 가성비좋네여
[05:32] <MENT> 105만원인데
[05:32] <MENT> 넹 지금이 6세대네염
[05:42] <commania> 급 핏자먹고싶네요ㅋㅋ;
[05:55] <autowiz> 핏자 저도 좋아라 합니다.
[05:55] <autowiz> 간이 한판 어떠신지 ㅎㅎ
[05:56] <autowiz> Ready~~~
[05:56] <autowiz> Fight~~~
[05:57] <ipeter> 휴
[05:57] <ipeter> 더비틀 알아보니까
[05:57] <ipeter> 차 가격에 13.5%까지 맥스로 할인해준대네요.
[05:57] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[05:57] <ipeter> 좀만 더 해주지.
[06:27] <JasonJang> commania: 매달 모임 참가비 없습니다. 다만, 2차 뒷풀이 식비는 모으고 있죠. ^^
[06:50] <koolDJ> 안녕하세요
[06:52] <koolDJ> 로그상에서 오류를 확인하실 수 있는분 계신가요
[06:53] <autowiz> acpi 쪽은 로그로는 힘들어서 그냥 이것저것 옵션 변경하다보면 될때 있고 그렇더라구요
[06:53] <koolDJ> 아 그렇군요
[06:53] <autowiz> bios 에서 pnp 기능 있으면 끄시는게 도움이 되실지도 모르겠습니다.
[06:54] <koolDJ> 노트북 바이오스가 워낙 제한적이라 건드릴 수 있는게 적어서요 ㅠㅠ
[06:54] <autowiz> 사촌동생 주고 오래 되서 기억이 가물가물 합니다 ㅠㅠ
[06:54] <koolDJ> 그래도 감사합니다
[06:54] <koolDJ> 답변해주시는 것만으로 다행이라고 생각하는데 ㅠ
[06:54] <autowiz> 그게 찾다보면 중국 원 제조사 모델 번호도 나오는데
[06:55] <autowiz> 그걸로 한번 찾아볼까 싶기도 했었는데요 .
[06:55] <koolDJ> 로그파일은 혹시나해서 질문댓글에 통째로 링크를 올렸어요
[06:55] <koolDJ> 우분투 14.04에서 뽑아온건데 저는 볼줄몰라서 ㅠ
[06:55] <autowiz> url을 주십시요~
[06:56] <koolDJ> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s5fv2wirdrs53ka/AACgT6uHaSK2z1VBbsghc1Kha?dl=0
[06:56] <koolDJ> 드롭박스입니다
[06:57] <autowiz> 보고 와서 다시 말씀 드리겠습니다 ㅠ
[06:58] <koolDJ> 감사합니다 ㅠ
[07:18] <koolDJ> 이만 나가볼께요
[07:26] <jgs> 왜 이번 정기모임은 하필이면 28일일까요 ㅠㅠ
[07:31] <croxer> 어제 그림 심리 검사를 해봤는데 잊었던 마음에 상처들이라던지, 지금 심리 상태등이 나오더라고요 진짜 소름돋았습니다.
[07:31] <croxer> 한번 기회가 되신다면 해보세요
[07:32] <croxer> 와 어제 진짜.... 막 제 성격같은것도 나오고 진짜 신기했었어요
[07:32] <croxer> 보기싫은사람이 있다그리고 ㅋㅋㅋ 진짜 있었는데
[07:33] <croxer> 가지고 있던 고민들이 그림을 통해서 나온다는게 신기하기도 하고 뭔가 ㅁ마음이 찡하기도 했었습니다 그 사람이 제 심리를 알아주니 기분도 꽤 좋아졌다고 해야하나.... 아무튼 기회되면 해보세요!
[07:54] <samahui_WS> 주말 즐겁게들 보내시고 다음에 뵈요. 전 선약이 있어서 이만 나갔다 오겠습니다.
[08:36] <autowiz> 포테토님은 바쁘시겠지요?
[08:42] <autowiz> 자세한 이야기는 다음에 드리겠습니다 . 시간은 소중한 거라고 합니다. 행복한 주말 알차게 가족들과 오손도손 잘 보내십시요~~
[08:42] <autowiz> 그럼 몇시간 있다가 저녁 먹고 뵙겠습니다. ㅋ
[10:37] <commania> JasonJang, 아, 순간 참가비와 뒷풀이 식비를 헷갈렸네요;;ㅎㅎ
[13:11] <JasonJang> commania: 헤헤헤
[13:57] <autowiz_dinner> 저녁 먹고 술도 한잔하고 기분좋게 컴백 ㅎㅎㅎ
[14:15] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3742462&cpage=1
[14:25] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3737032
[15:19] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3742817&cpage=2
[15:24] <MENT> 미쵸따
[15:24] <MENT> ㄷㄷ
[15:24] <MENT> 왜 저러지
[15:51] <HolyKnight> zㅋ
[15:56] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3730508
[16:00] <MENT> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[16:00] <MENT> 헌재 판결 ㅋㅋ
[16:00] <MENT> 애초 아청법 자체가 논란의 여지가 많게 만들어져서
[16:00] <MENT> 결국 헌재에서 이렇게 처리되네요
[16:15] <HolyKnight> zㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[16:26] <JasonJang> MENT: 우분투 월례 모임 참가비는 없습니다. 재확인 바랍니다. ^^
[16:26] <MENT> 앗 감사합니다!
[16:26] <MENT> +_+
[18:15] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[19:58] <Work^Seony> 통장에 천만원 찍힌거 보자마자 카드값 5백만원 내는군요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[20:00] <autowiz> 안녕하세요
[20:00] <autowiz> 시나브로 통장잔고가 많아 지도록 기원 드립니다 ^^
[20:01] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 감사합니다
[22:06] <autowiz> 편안한 금요일 되고 계시는지요? ㅎㅎ 일이 많이 바쁘진 않으시면 좋겠습니다.
[22:08] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 바쁜 일은 별로 없네요
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-release
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[05:44] <robru> stgraber: thanks for merging!
[09:56] <xnox> lsb went from arch:any -> arch:all could it please be "decrufted"? It's currently stuck in britney saying "old binaries left on <arch:any>"
[12:15] <cjwatson> xnox: Hmmmm. I think that's likely a bug in britney.py:merge_binaries (the partial suite handling is very very very delicate and there are some corner cases). I don't think it can be decrufted at the moment - the best approach is to get a member of ~ubuntu-release to force it
[12:44] <xnox> cjwatson, right. would removing arch:any binaries from -release make things better? there are no rdepends on them.
[12:45] <xnox> cjwatson, where is britney code? surely it can inspect source package and notice any->all change.
[12:47] <cjwatson> xnox: it's not that simple (tm)
[12:47] <cjwatson> lp:~ubuntu-release/britney/britney2-ubuntu
[12:47] <cjwatson> xnox: oh, if there are no rdepends, that would probably work around it, yes, although horrible
[12:47] <cjwatson> one sec
[12:49] <xnox> (there are no rdepends on the arch:any packages, all of which are dropped)
[12:49] <cjwatson> xnox: OK, removed
[13:49] <xnox> cjwatson, thanks that did the trick and triggered a world of tests =)
[13:53] <cjwatson> It did indeed
[14:45] <xnox> no powerpc builds for today? =(
[15:59] <lamont> where would I go to find out why https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-django/1.8.5-2ubuntu1 is still sitting in xenial-proposed, instead of actually making it into xenial?
[16:01] <rbasak> lamont: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html in the first instance.
[16:01] <rbasak> lamont: that looks OK, so
[16:02] <rbasak> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[16:02] <rbasak> lamont: that says that the update would make * amd64: mumble-django, python-django-mumble uninstallable.
[16:02] <rbasak> lamont: documentation for the future at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration but that's the answer to your specific case
[16:06] <lamont> rbasak: thanks for both versions of the answer!
[16:11] <rbasak> You're welcome!
[16:34] <roaksoax> barry: so we have python-django1.8 in -proposed, blocked on a package in universe that depends on python-django << 1.8. It seems unmaintained upstream, but seems to support 1.7... what should we done in that case ?
[16:37] <barry> roaksoax: which package is that?
[16:37] <roaksoax> barry: mumble-django
[16:37] <roaksoax> that's the source
[16:37] <roaksoax> python-django-mumble
[16:37] <rbasak> Looks like mumble-django was kicked out of testing in Debian 415 days ago
[16:38] <roaksoax> https://bitbucket.org/Svedrin/mumble-django/src/ed55b15dd108acc2cb01102d0f7630a9fd676b4a?at=default -> last commit seems to only have added support to django 1.7
[16:38] <roaksoax> in 2014
[16:38] <roaksoax> other than that seems pretty much unmaintained
[16:39] <barry> rbasak: so i guess we should kick it out of ubuntu too then
[16:39] <rbasak> I agree but I presume that the release team needs to make the call?
[16:40] <barry> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.packages.voip.devel/25584
[16:40] <barry> was it that long ago?
[16:40] <rbasak> https://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mumble-django.html was what I was using
[16:41] <rbasak> Does the removed from testing email autoamtically repeat?
[16:41] <barry> oh, looks like it does
[16:41] <barry> it keeps trying to migrate to testing
[16:41] <rbasak> Oh, it kept migrating to testing
[16:41] <rbasak> And being kicked out
[16:41] <barry> yeah
[16:41] <rbasak> Which seems odd
[16:41] <rbasak> But whichever way, it doesn't look like it's being looked after in Debian
[16:43] <barry> right, so i guess ubuntu-release does need to kick it out. maybe file a bug on the srcpkg in ubuntu?
[16:43] <rbasak> It'd probably be polite to file a bug upstream asking for Django 1.8 support as I don't see one.
[16:43] <barry> that too
[17:11] <roaksoax> barry: but in the menatime, I'm happy to file a bug to remove that package
[17:11] <barry> roaksoax: thanks
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2015-11-20-#lubuntu
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[20:21] <LedZeplin> is do-relase-upgrade the right way to upgrade lubuntu? it won't get all ubuntuy when upgraded?
[20:25] <genii> LedZeplin: It is the correct way for all the different *buntu
[20:26] <LedZeplin> ok. I wanted to make sure. thanks
[20:26] <genii> LedZeplin: You're welcome
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-pl
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[11:51] <Jeroo2_> Witam.
[11:51] <Jeroo2_> Czy jest jakis program na konsoli do backupu na vfat?
[11:52] <gjm> rsync
[11:52] <Jeroo2_> nie zapisze np. czasu i uprawnien
[11:52] <Jeroo2_> nie wspominajac o linkach
[11:56] <Jeroo2_> kiedys była jakas biblioteka do pisania na msdos plików unices
[11:56] <Jeroo2_> ale nie moge znaleźć.
[12:06] <firemark> vfat ma uprawnienia? :O
[12:09] <Jeroo2_> chodzi o to by miec backup
[12:09] <Jeroo2_> czyli cos co bylo tydzien temu przywracam i nie zastanawiam sie
[12:09] <Jeroo2_> czy aby wszystkie parametry zapisałem
[12:12] <firemark> to czemu nie rsync?
[12:16] <Jeroo2_> firemark, zrob eksperyment i sobie odpowiesz
[12:17] <Jeroo2_> 1. zrob plik w linuxie np twardy link, dodaj lepkie bity attr i ustaw chmod
[12:17] <Jeroo2_> potem zapisz na pendrive z systemem plikow msdos
[12:21] <gjm> walę msdos
[12:22] <Jeroo2_> ale czasem lepiej miec backup niz go nie miec
[12:23] <Jeroo2_> nie zawsze mozesz miec taki system plikow jak chcesz
[13:00] <uh> potrzebuje nazwe programu do wypalenia obrazu iso na usb
[13:00] <gjm> dd
[13:00] <uh> dd?
[13:01] <uh> ok, znalazlem dzieki
[13:01] <firemark> no wlasnie dd nie zawsze dziala
[13:01] <firemark> :D
[13:02] <firemark> na rescue disk nie dał rady
[13:02] <Jerooo2_> unetbotin
[13:02] <firemark> yep
[13:02] <Jerooo2_> jest fedorkowy program i suse
[13:04] <uh> e nie bede sie meczyl nie ma jakiegos graficznego? pod deepinem bylo ale zapomnialem nazwe
[13:04] <firemark> no masz graficzną nakładkę
[13:04] <firemark> na konsolę
[13:04] <firemark> nie rozumiem po co ci więcej
[13:05] <gjm> >nie bede sie meczyl
[13:05] <gjm> ja jebie
[13:05] <gjm> faktycznie skomplikowane
[13:18] <uh> ten program dd to cos pokazuje bo wklepalem komende i nic sie nie dzieje
[13:19] <Jerooo2_> jak wiekszosc komend unices, nic nie pokazuje jak jest ok
[13:20] <uh> troche dlugo to trwa :/
[13:20] <Jerooo2_> a duży dysk?
[13:20] <Jerooo2_> zależy czy bufor masz duży, poszukaj w obcjach jest opcja buforowania
[13:21] <Jerooo2_> znaczaco przyśpiesza
[13:23] <uh> dysk 4giga a wgrywam system co ma 660mega
[13:23] <uh> no nic ide zapalic
[13:24] <gjm> dcfldd pokazuje postęp
[13:24] <uh> poczekam z 5-10min jak nic sie nie zadzieje to sprobuje
[13:25] <gjm> nie musisz czekać
[13:25] <gjm> uh: sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)
[13:26] <uh> gjm: wiem, ale moze cos tam sie dzieje
[13:26] <uh> poczekam jeszcze chwile
[13:29] <uh> poszlo
[13:29] <uh> dzieki
[15:48] <zasek> hello
[15:49] <firemark> bye
[15:56] <drathir> lol
[23:00] <Ashiren> happy Caturday
[23:00] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/j6yaPdG.jpg
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-kernel
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[21:37] <gQuigs> so I'm not what parts of kernel.ubuntu.com I can follow without being a member of the kernel team (trying to backport https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1475166 to vivid and wily)
[21:41] <gQuigs> and I meant this doc - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelBugFixing, not sure if it's current, or I can just say in the bug please pull linus commit 357ae967ad66e357f78b5cfb5ab6ca07fb4a7758...
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-tr
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[09:48] <Kartagis> uyanık olan var mı?
[13:10] <ogny> selamalar
[13:10] <ogny> herkese
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu+1
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[11:57] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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2015-11-20-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[21:57] <Guest55435> 有人知道如何可以安装QQ吗，我用的linux mint
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2015-11-20-#maas
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[02:31] <pmatulis> how do i deploy a node using the cli?
[02:31] <pmatulis> (v.1.8)
[09:46] <mup> Bug #1518226 opened: Option to add ipmipower args via webUI <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518226>
[09:52] <caribou> Hello, is anyone familiar with how the booloading (BIOS/UEFI) is handled in Maas ?
[10:32] <nagyz> hi guys
[10:32] <nagyz> I'm trying to figure out what happens when I have a server on two MAAS-managed networks (one provisioning, one "public")
[10:33] <nagyz> it seems to be that the default gateway will be set based on which interface is the first one in the alphabet :-)
[10:33] <nagyz> same for DNS
[12:17] <matt_dupre> Hi: I've just upgraded from 1.5 to 1.8.3, but I'm now seeing 503 errors trying to connect to http://<server>/MAAS/
[12:18] <matt_dupre> The apache error log says "Connection refused [...] attempt to connect to 127.0.0.1:5240 (localhost) failed". Nothing's listening on port 5240. Does anyone have any ideas what this could be?
[13:45] <Haris> hello all
[13:45] <Haris> what's maas for ubuntu ?
[13:45] <Haris> is it something like .. if I needed running 2 or more VMs on the same machine, and I didn't have vmware, I'd use maas to do it ?
[13:47] <Haris> os is it like a PXE ?
[13:54] <roaksoax> Haris: MAAS is a deployment tool, that not only deploys Ubuntu but other operating systems
[13:54] <Haris> so, its a PXE ?
[13:54] <Haris> replacement ?
[13:55] <roaksoax> Haris: it does PXE, UEFI, Grub net booting
[13:55] <roaksoax> Haris: but it is not a "PXE replacement"
[13:55] <roaksoax> Haris: PXE is an underlying technology
[13:56] <Haris> I see
[13:56] <Haris> is maas a web tool ?
[13:56] <Haris> or just the front end
[13:59] <roaksoax> Haris: maas provides a WebUI and a CLI, so you can do the same thing via those two interfaces
[14:00] <roaksoax> Haris: so it is a software tool that incorporates other technologies (PXE, DHCP, DNS< Proxy), and provides users with a WebUI and a CLI Interface to control it
[14:00] <Haris> ah ok
[14:00] <Haris> cool
[14:14] <mup> Bug #1518226 changed: Option to add ipmipower args via webUI <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:Opinion> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518226>
[14:20] <mup> Bug #1518226 opened: Option to add ipmipower args via webUI <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:Opinion> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518226>
[14:31] <Haris> thank you all
[14:32] <mup> Bug #1518226 changed: Option to add ipmipower args via webUI <canonical-bootstack> <MAAS:Opinion> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518226>
[14:37] <tinks> quit
[15:08] <matt_dupre> So I figured by problem above out: /var/log/maas/maas.log was owned by syslog, but the user responsible for logging changed during the upgrade to maas, so maas-regiond was unable to write to the log
[15:09] <matt_dupre> s/by/my/
[15:41] <los> Has anyone ever noticed that when you do dpkg-reconfigure on a cluster controller (without a regional) to point to a regional somewhere else....it might "ignore" your URL to the API and try the lo and another address 10.0.2.15?
[15:42] <los> I can lynx the API and get a login from this VM, no problem, but the logs don't mention failing to connect to my URL I put into the reconfigure.
[15:43] <los> ...and dpkg-reconfigure maas-cluster-controller takes a really long time to initially start and get into the CUI, if that's a clue
[15:47] <los> The 10.0.2.15 is one of the local interfaces
[15:55] <roaksoax> los: do you have an examepl?
[15:55] <roaksoax> los: or a pb ?
[15:56] <los> roaksoax:pb?
[15:57] <los> roaksoax: 2015-11-20 09:55:56-0600 [Uninitialized] Event-loop maasr6:pid=1101 (127.0.0.1:5251): Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused. 2015-11-20 09:55:56-0600 [Uninitialized] Event-loop maasr6:pid=1101 (10.0.2.15:5251): Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused. 2015-11-20 09:56:26-0600 [-] Event-loop maasr6:pid=1101 (192.168.66.1:5251): User timeout caused connection failure.
[15:57] <los> Even though I've set the MAAS API URL to something totally different, its not in those clusterd.log 's
[15:58] <los> roaksoax: Even though I can Lynx to that URL no problem, login, see stuff etc. from that same host
[15:58] <los> roaksoax: the cluster-only host has that 10.0.2.15 address
[15:59] <los> roaksoax: I read the logs as "I'm gonna connect to localhost on a few ports to see a regional, and I'll try my own IP"
[15:59] <los> roaksoax: But I can't find that IP in any grep-able file
[16:00] <roaksoax> los: /etc/maas/clusterd.conf is where the cluster knows where to contact the region controller
[16:00] <roaksoax> .win 22
[16:01] <los> roaksoax: looking
[16:02] <los> roaksoax: It has the right URL. I will bounce server.
[16:02] <los> roaksoax: .win 22 = Old Yeller Headache?
[16:02] <los> roaksoax: as one pal of my says, "Kevork it"
[16:06] <roaksoax> los: so it has the right URL where to connect to MAAS Region ?
[16:06] <los> roaksoax: yep
[16:06] <roaksoax> los: did you add a shared secret ?
[16:06] <los> roaksoax: yep, even the right one :)
[16:06] <los> (this time)
[16:07] <roaksoax> los: that's strange there, shows that it failed due to a timeout
[16:11] <los> roaksoax: I thought the key part that was interesting is that the 10.13.x.x host I have the regional+cluster ("R+C1") is not mentioned. This is the 2nd attempted cluster controller ("C2")
[16:11] <los> roaksoax: I'm assuming "if you can lynx it and get a login, you're good"
[16:13] <los> roaksoax: Ohhhhhhh I bet the API doesn't work with the port specifier?
[16:13] <los> roaksoax: (If that's the case the logging is bugged)
[16:21] <roaksoax> los: what does your clusterd.conf show ?
[16:22] <los> roaksoax: cluster_uuid: eea5c60a-4fcc-41a4-b141-30ca1b77c177 maas_url: http://10.13.0.6:8946/MAAS
[16:22] <los> (two lines)
[16:23] <roaksoax> http://10.13.0.6:8946/MAAS -> http://10.13.0.6:5240/MAAS
[16:23] <los> roaksoax: clusterd.conf owned root, group maas, 640
[16:23] <roaksoax> los: or: http://10.13.0.6/MAAS
[16:26] <los> roaksoax: 8946->80
[16:26] <los> roaksoax: Its in a VM under Vbox, I know, not supported, but its what I got :)
[16:27] <roaksoax> los: right so the region binds to 5240, buyt apache is there to proxy from 80->5140
[16:27] <roaksoax> los: right so the region binds to 5240, buyt apache is there to proxy from 80->5240
[16:28] <los> roaksoax: ok, cool, so I'm forwarding in 8946 on the vmhost to the vm's 80...should I forward more? Is there some reverse DNS problem? Why is the clusterd not logging a connection attempt? (no sign it "sees" the MAAS API Url as set by dpkg-reconfigure)
[16:30] <los> Is it a problem that the clusterd is otherwise not configured....aka, the 2nd interface on the C2 VM hasn't been setup yet
[16:35] <roaksoax> los: my guess is that the forwarding is interfering here
[16:36] <los> roaksoax: Can you give me an idea of the forwarding requirements? 5240->5240?
[16:37] <roaksoax> los: yeah I'd do that
[16:42] <los> roaksoax: using iptraf: can see local socket connection attempts to local ip 10.0.2.15 on ports 5250, 5253, now 5252
[16:43] <los> roaksoax: I have those forwarded on the R+C1 vm, but, that's the wrong IP. Its "ignoring my MAAS API" and trying local
[16:43] <los> roaksoax: On the R+C1 vm host, I have 5250-3 forwarded into the R+C1 vm but no traffic on that
[16:44] <mup> Bug #1518067 changed: multi-network node could get wrong default gateway that prevents deploy <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518067>
[16:46] <los> roaksoax: This is interesting:
[16:46] <los> │┌10.0.2.15:39872 = 5 300 S--- eth0 │ │└192.168.66.1:5251 = 0 0 ---- eth0 │
[16:46] <los> │└192.168.66.1:5251 = 0 0 ---- eth0 │
[16:47] <los> iptraf shows it making a connection from the NAT side network, to an address that I've used for things before but don't have in /etc/network/interfaces at all
[16:48] <los> roaksoax: I have eth0, enp0s8, and lo....s8 is totally unconfigured.
[16:51] <los> roaksoax: Ok, I configured the enp0s8 network (That will be the private MaaS network) now I'm getting the connection refused msgs 1/sec, but just the two last ones, the 'refused by other side'
[16:51] <los> roaksoax: The third (first showing) message with "Timeout" is gone
[16:53] <los> roaksoax: And...now the dpkg-reconfigure maas-cluster-configure is not slow to start! Aha!
[16:53] <los> roaksoax: Changed the URL to 10.13.0.6/MAAS and now I get a fast fail from twisted.... 404
[16:55] <los> roaksoax: Aha, totally different clusterd.log, after changing the URL to 10.13.0.6:5240/MAAS and having the 5240->5240 mapping
[16:55] <los> 2015-11-19 13:41:08-0600 [-] Site starting on 5248 2015-11-19 13:41:08-0600 [-] TFTP starting on 69 2015-11-19 13:41:08-0600 [-] Starting protocol <tftp.protocol.TFTP instance at 0x7f06b03b8998> 2015-11-19 13:41:08-0600 [-] TFTP Listener started at 127.0.0.1:69 2015-11-19 13:41:08-0600 [-] TFTP starting on 69 2015-11-19 13:41:08-0600 [-] Starting protocol <tftp.protocol.TFTP instance at 0x7f06b03b8cf8> 2015-11-19 13:41:08-0600 [-] TFTP Lis
[16:56] <los> 2015-11-19 13:41:08-0600 [Uninitialized] Region not available: Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused. (While requesting RPC info at http://localhost:5240/MAAS/rpc/)
[16:56] <los> roaksoax: iptraf now shows its reaching out to the right 10.13.0.6! Closer!
[17:04] <los> roaksoax: On the R+C1 machine, Apache says: Nov 20 11:03:39 maasr6 sh[1091]: 2015-11-20 11:03:39 [-] 127.0.0.1 - - [20/Nov/2015:17:03:38 +0000] "GET /MAAS/rpc/ HTTP/1.0" 2 00 364 "-" "provisioningserver.rpc.clusterservice.ClusterClientService"
[17:06] <los> roaksoax: 2015-11-20 11:06:29-0600 [Uninitialized] Region not available: Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused. (While requesting RPC info at http://10.13.0.6:5240/MAAS/rpc/).
[17:06] <los> Better...but not good
[17:08] <roaksoax> los: right, so that means the cluster, for whatever reason, can't reach to the region
[17:08] <los> roaksoax: On the R+C1 machine, when I curl localhost:5240 I get <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL=MAAS/"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <a href="MAAS/">click here</a> </body> </html>
[17:08] <roaksoax> los: might be the forwarding
[17:08] <los> roaksoax: On C2 machine I get ConnRefused so I'm baffled but on it
[17:08] <los> For the good of all MaaSKind, lolz
[17:09] <roaksoax> los: this is what happens, the cluster connects to region on that IP/port, and the Region tells the cluster "this are my 4 endpoints, on different ports, because I have multiple daemons running"
[17:09] <roaksoax> los: so that's the problem I'd think
[17:09] <roaksoax> los: the cluster cannot connect to the endpoints
[17:09] <los> roaksoax: Do I need to forward a range of ports, 5240-X -> 5240-X?
[17:13] <roaksoax> los: "Firewall ports for Region and Cluster controller communication
[17:13] <roaksoax> The communication between Region and Cluster controller is now limited to use the ports between 5250 and 5259. For all of those users who are using a remote cluster (not running on the same machine as the MAAS Region Controller), need to ensure that these ports are open in the firewall."
[17:13] <los> roaksoax: Aha, forsooth!
[17:16] <los> roaksoax: Ok, curl to the 5240 is getting me the "click here" html"
[17:26] <los> roaksoax: Ok, I get this msg 3x: 2015-11-20 11:26:04-0600 [Uninitialized] Event-loop maasr6:pid=1096 (127.0.0.1:5252): Connection was refused
[17:27] <roaksoax> uhmm
[17:27] <los> roaksoax: ...but the IP changes: I get back a 10.0.2.15, which is (I'm thinking) dispensed by the regional, which is an unroutable
[17:27] <los> roaksoax: So, "Oh, I contact the regional, and it gave me an address and I'm gonna connect and its no good, try these other interfaces address he gave me and loopback too"
[17:27] <roaksoax> bladernr_: ^^
[17:27] <roaksoax> err
[17:27] <roaksoax> blake_r: ^^
[17:28] <los> roaksoax: I appreciate the help: I recognize this is all virtualbox hooey
[17:28] <roaksoax> blake_r: any ideas? seems that region might be sending back loopback to cluster ?
[17:32] <los> roaksoak: I changed the local private maas nets on both the R+C1 machine and C2 machines to non-192.168.66.x addresses (.44 and .88) and then it went bonkers. Log ceased...a couple timeouts...long pauses...so I'm bouncing both hosts
[17:35] <los> roaksoax: Ok, this is cool: the .88 address is showing up in the C2 machine's logs, so R+C1 machine is dispensing it back to the C2 machine, ergo, this is all a consequence of the virtual box and unroutables
[17:36] <los> roaksoax: Clear as a day, the Regional is passing back ALL the interfaces addresses that are non-loopback, and then the Cluster controller is trying them all....I see iptraf on the C machine attempting to connect out to 192.168.88.1, which is the R+C1 machines private MaaS network for the "dummies" to boot off.
[17:36] <los> of
[17:43] <los> Roaksoax: taking lunch. Will work this more when I get back. Will be looking at netstat to see what's listening on the R+C1 box, etc.
[18:12] <mup> Bug #1518414 opened: NVMe model info/serial number is not seen <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518414>
[18:15] <mup> Bug #1518414 changed: NVMe model info/serial number is not seen <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518414>
[18:18] <mup> Bug #1518414 opened: NVMe model info/serial number is not seen <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518414>
[19:35] <los> roaksoax: So my region controller is just happy as can be: 2015-11-20 13:35:03 [-] 127.0.0.1 - - [20/Nov/2015:19:35:02 +0000] "GET /MAAS/rpc/ HTTP/1.0" 200 364 "-" "provisioningserver.rpc.clusterservice.ClusterClientService"
[19:36] <los> roaksoax: should that be on the loopback?
[19:40] <los> roaksoax: hahahaha the R+C1 machine has localhost:5240 in its cluster controller config!
[19:44] <los> roaksoax: Wow: I provisioned the R+C1 machine with two interfaces, and I config'd the maas-region-controller with that (NAT outbound) interface up and the other one (MaaS private) unconfigured and its my bad...MaaS picked the only up network as the private one
[19:54] <los> roaksoax: I get one of these when I trigger a restart through dpkg: 2015-11-20 13:53:20-0600 [HTTPPageGetter,client] Region is not advertising RPC endpoints.
[20:06] <mup> Bug #1518440 opened: tgt fails to install in LXD <MAAS:Triaged> <tgt:New> <tgt (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518440>
[20:09] <mup> Bug #1518440 changed: tgt fails to install in LXD <MAAS:Triaged> <tgt:New> <tgt (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518440>
[20:10] <los> roaksoax: Doc bug: right above this link, the sentence just.... https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/install.html#disc-install
[20:12] <mup> Bug #1518440 opened: tgt fails to install in LXD <MAAS:Triaged> <tgt:New> <tgt (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518440>
[20:15] <mup> Bug #1518440 changed: tgt fails to install in LXD <MAAS:Triaged> <tgt:New> <tgt (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518440>
[20:18] <mup> Bug #1518440 opened: tgt fails to install in LXD <MAAS:Triaged> <tgt:New> <tgt (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518440>
[22:33] <nagyz> can someone enlighten me how would you manage DNS if you have two different subnets, like an internal and an external?
[22:34] <nagyz> if a node has IPs on both... currently MAAS only registers the A record for the alphabetically first interface
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[14:08] <elopio> rvr: gracias :)
[14:20] <rvr> :)
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[08:43] <Mirv> mzanetti: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/621 QA granted but new commits in unity8
[08:52] <Mirv> Trevinho: hey. to me it looks like this ticket was properly even through the SRU queue and I have it now on my 14.04 LTS, should it be cleaned up so that branches are merged? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/519 - _except_ that unity-lens-music is not published, that should be done manually. did you do the rest somehow by manual copying?
[08:52] <Mirv> but I've unity, indicator-session and ido from the trusty-updates
[08:53] <Mirv> Trevinho: to me it looks mterry published the three packages but somehow unity-lens-music was apparently put to the silo afterwards? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-042-2-publish/7/artifact/packagelist_rsync_ubuntu-landing-042/*view*/
[08:53] <Mirv> Trevinho: I think the best thing would be to force merge for the others (I can do that) and put the unity-lens-music MP into new request
[09:10] <Trevinho> Mirv: ok...
[09:13] <mzanetti> Mirv, which one?
[09:14] <mzanetti> how can you read that log? :D
[09:17] <Mirv> mzanetti: not sure, this one has the latest commit looking manually https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/ubuntuanimations/+merge/276511 (same dates as the build date)
[09:17] <mzanetti> Mirv, that's the one I was waiting for before rebuilding the silo
[09:17] <mzanetti> should be fine
[09:18] <Mirv> mzanetti: checking manually that too
[09:18] <Mirv> mzanetti: correct, it's there
[09:19] <mzanetti> that ubuntuanimations one?
[09:24] <Mirv> Trevinho: bregma: ok you'll want to have another request for https://code.launchpad.net/~townsend/unity-lens-music/fix-icon-path.trusty.SRU/+merge/265656 that was not published back when unity + ido + indicator-session were. the previous ticket is now cleaned it trunks are up-to-date.
[09:24] <Trevinho> Mirv: ok, thanks
[09:26] <pandatrone> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1518122
[09:39] <mzanetti> @unity: Merging time!
[09:40] <mzanetti> if youre on xenial, you need to wait a bit for the latest uniy-api packages still
[09:42] <seb128> I just copied that over
[09:43] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i see nothing new in lp:unity8 still
[10:16] <VsyachePuz> is it possible to insert a long progress bar between main menu and ApplicationIndicators panel (for MATE that will be panel applet)
[10:20] <VsyachePuz> I want to implement "minimize window to progressbar" function
[10:49] <VsyachePuz> Is unity-panel derived from gnome-panel? Does this mean, that it is possible to add "panel applet" to unity panel?
[11:35] <dandrader> ltinkl, could you please review that: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/mouseWheel/+merge/278009
[11:35] <dandrader> ltinkl, it's the new iteration of fixWheel
[11:36] <dandrader> ltinkl, done the way I initially suggested you
[11:41] <tsdgeos> cimi: ping
[11:50] <cimi> tsdgeos, pong
[11:55] <tsdgeos> cimi: do we really need the topMargin: 0.1 in https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/new-shadows-1.3/+merge/271611 ?
[11:55] <tsdgeos> i can't see any difference on the top of the apps with or without
[11:55] <tsdgeos> even when zooming in
[11:56] <cimi> tsdgeos, yes we do, is the shadows that is around the cards
[11:56] <cimi> tsdgeos, it will be cut off at the top by some clipping done
[11:56] <tsdgeos> well i have screenshots that prove we do not need it
[11:56] <tsdgeos> can you show me some screenshots proving we do?
[11:56] <tsdgeos> or telling me where to look
[11:56] <cimi> so you move things slightly down...
[11:57] <cimi> tsdgeos, can I see this screenshot of a collapsed category?
[11:57] <tsdgeos> collapsed category?
[11:58] <tsdgeos> this is just for the apps scope, isn't it?
[11:59] <cimi> mmm yeah for now
[12:00] <tsdgeos> so is there a way to reproduce this problem you're speaking at the moment?
[12:07] <cimi> tsdgeos, make tryGenericScopeView iirc
[12:07] <cimi> or tryDash
[12:07] <cimi> let me try to compile here...
[12:09] <cimi> there is one scope that fakes to be app scope, so you see the shadows, and the top edge of collapsed app category will be clipped if you don't add the margin
[12:10] <cimi> nope there is none here in those tests, it must have been something I edited locally to make it behave as app sope
[12:10] <cimi> scope
[12:12] <tsdgeos> cimi: if we don't relaly need it today i'd prefer we leave that out, since i'm not convinced it's the proper fix for that
[12:12] <cimi> tsdgeos, we need that visual thing
[12:12] <tsdgeos> but you just said there's no way to reproduce it?
[12:13] <cimi> on the phone yes
[12:13] <cimi> the app scope
[12:13] <cimi> if you remove the margin and take a screenshot, you should see the top edge of the shadow being clipped
[12:13] <cimi> unless something changed in uitk and it is no longer the case
[12:14] <tsdgeos> i'll show you my screenshots
[12:14] <cimi> thanks!
[12:17] <ltinkl> dandrader, sure, will do
[12:18] <tsdgeos> cimi: http://i.imgur.com/TlpnLTP.jpg vs http://i.imgur.com/eBbccPj.jpg
[12:20] <tsdgeos> cimi: also what do you think about http://paste.ubuntu.com/13364390/ ?
[12:21] <cimi> tsdgeos, I like that pastebin
[12:22] <cimi> tsdgeos, indeed I cannot see any difference from your screenshots
[12:22] <cimi> tsdgeos, maybe something changed in the way it was rendered by uitk
[12:22] <cimi> I want to check here too though, I will let you know
[12:24] <tsdgeos> cimi: cool tx
[12:31] <tsdgeos> the merges have landed
[12:32] * tsdgeos runs the conflcits script
[12:32] <tsdgeos> and goes for food
[12:45] <cimi> tsdgeos, ok no difference now, maybe the shadow got tweaked so it's not at the top anymore
[12:45] <cimi> we can remove for now the margin I'd say
[12:45] <cimi> GRID_UNIT_PX=28 tools/unity-scope-tool /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity-scopes/clickapps/clickscope.ini
[12:45] <cimi> tested this way
[12:51] <cimi> tsdgeos, that was the uitk branch I thought it was meant to fix your bug https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/focusPassesFromChildToParent/+merge/277962
[13:33] <tsdgeos> cimi: have you had time to try it?
[13:33] <tsdgeos> the sdk branch i mean
[13:34] <cimi> nope
[13:44] <tsdgeos> cimi: so are you removing the topMArgin and adding my pastebin suggestion?
[13:50] <tsdgeos> @unity: an easy one https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/update_pot/+merge/278147
[13:52] <mterry> tsdgeos got i
[13:52] <mterry> t
[13:52] <mterry> ah so did ltinkl :)
[13:52] <mterry> so fast
[13:52] <ltinkl> :)
[13:52] <ltinkl> the checklist needs one more item
[13:53] <ltinkl> * If you changed user-visible strings, have you run "update_pot"? :)
[13:53] <tsdgeos> i did argue for that
[13:53] <tsdgeos> everyone thought it was a bad idea because it has to be properly fixed elsewhere
[13:53] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, even better would be to write a test/commit hook for that
[13:54] <tsdgeos> but since it will noy be fixed properly elsewhere because it's too much work we still have this problem every time we land something
[13:54] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, what do you mean by "properly fixed elsewhere"?
[13:54] <tsdgeos> ltinkl: it's hard since you'd need a tool that really understood
[13:54] <tsdgeos> .po diffs
[13:55] <tsdgeos> ltinkl: something that runs this automagically under the hood like we have in KDE
[13:55] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, ye but you could change the source code diff for qStr, tr, etc...
[13:56] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, and see if the .pot file changed too with the commit
[13:56] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, ehm change diff, I mean check the diff
[13:56] <tsdgeos> yeah i got it
[13:56] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, dunno if bzr has some "commit hooks"
[13:56] <tsdgeos> it does
[13:57] <tsdgeos> we used to have one for something at some poitn
[13:57] <tsdgeos> barely rember what for though
[14:10] <cimi> tsdgeos, yes
[14:15] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, ltinkl, we still have that commit hook. it runs make test
[14:16] <mzanetti> ltinkl, inside a unity code tree, do "cd .bazaar && make install"
[14:31] <ltinkl> mzanetti, I see
[14:32] <ltinkl> dandrader, the new wheel fixes work fine, gonna test it on an external screen in a few minutes
[14:33] <mzanetti> ltinkl, can you combine them with my uinput branch and try if two-finger scrolling works?
[14:33] <mzanetti> oh... you don't have a nexus device iirc
[14:36] <ltinkl> mzanetti, yeah :/ gonna do the test with the laptop (hopefully that works)
[15:02] <dandrader> greyback_, that thing you asked me the other day, needs review: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtubuntu/useApplicationStateAPI/+merge/277720
[15:08] <greyback_> dandrader: thanks
[15:29] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: That's really weird, http://i.imgur.com/TlpnLTP.jpg is what i get.
[15:30] <mzanetti> odd
[15:30] <mzanetti> maybe I installed it wrong?
[15:31] <mzanetti> @unity: standup
[15:31] <mzanetti> dednick, ^
[15:35] <mzanetti> cimi, tsdgeos: https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/new-shadows-1.3/+merge/271611/comments/704186
[15:38] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, is that the new icons?
[15:39] <tsdgeos> ltinkl: yes
[15:39] <ltinkl> tsdgeos, looks so much nicer
[15:40] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: yeah i guess it'd be better if the store icon was on the same style too
[15:41] <mzanetti> ltinkl, well, actually its only new shadows
[15:41] <mzanetti> crazy how big of a difference that can make, eh?
[15:42] <ltinkl> yeah, suddenly it looks much cleaner
[15:42] <tsdgeos> cimi: i guess you can do that from qml/Dash/GenericScopeView.qml assigning the item.artShapeStyle = "icon"; for scope.id [15:43] <cimi> tsdgeos, yeah but is not an icon, should use artShapeStyle = "shadow", maybe
[15:43] <cimi> not sure I added that too...
[15:43] <cimi> let me read
[15:43] <cimi> tsdgeos, icon style uses a strict aspect ratio
[15:43] <cimi> tsdgeos, shadow instead should simply add a shadow, it's what I use for carousel
[15:44] <cimi> yeah I confirm, should be set to shadow
[15:44] <tsdgeos> cimi: ah, try that yeah
[15:46] <cimi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13366800/
[15:47] <cimi> mmm not working
[16:15] <cimi> mzanetti, tsdgeos looks like the shadow is builtin in the card I believe
[16:15] * cimi checks
[16:16] <cimi> no, wrong, but is not a trivial thing
[16:35] <cimi> mzanetti, tsdgeos https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/shadow-ubuntu-store-icon/+merge/278172
[16:35] <cimi> as a separate branch
[16:36] <mzanetti> wow, quite a lot of code to change a shadow
[16:37] <cimi> mzanetti, welcome to CardCreator.js world :)
[16:50] <ChrisTownsend> Eek, no more cursor on xenial Unity 8 desktop w/ 8.11+16.04.20151112.1-0ubuntu1!
[16:57] <mzanetti> oh oh
[16:57] * mzanetti tries
[17:04] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Any results?
[17:05] <mzanetti> indeed
[17:05] <mzanetti> dandrader, ^
[17:06] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: I suspect http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/revision/2041
[17:06] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: I'm rebuilding to test my theory.
[17:06] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: I'll enter a bug too.
[17:07] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, sounds like the closest, yes. still a bit strange, I remember I tested and approved that branch. was working
[17:07] <mzanetti> so maybe a combination
[17:07] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Well, it's just a theory.:)
[17:10] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: dandrader: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1518395
[17:10] <mzanetti> thanks
[17:10] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, we'll try to fix asap. sorry for the troubles
[17:10] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Ok, thanks
[17:12] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, wow
[17:12] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: lol, you went from 2 cursors to none;-)
[17:12] <mzanetti> haha
[17:13] <dandrader> :)
[17:13] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, please let us know if reverting that one commit helps
[17:14] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Yep, I'll let you guys know. Still building...
[17:16] <ltinkl> weird, can't reproduce here (v+o)
[17:17] * ltinkl wonders if this went thru QA
[17:18] <davmor2> I was testing bluez5 today I had a cursor on the latest phone image with a mouse connected
[17:19] <davmor2> If you are talking devel-proposed though that is completely broken
[17:20] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Oh, for heaven's sakes, the package build failed due to LauncherModelTest failing.
[17:22] <mzanetti> hmm
[17:23] <ChrisTownsend> I'm running build.sh instead.
[17:24] <ltinkl> ChrisTownsend, is this the problem: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/desktopFileActions/revision/2017#tests/plugins/Unity/Launcher/launchermodeltest.cpp
[17:25] <mzanetti> the test is passing here
[17:26] <dandrader> mzanetti, so you can reproduce that "no cursor" bug?
[17:26] <mzanetti> yes
[17:26] <mzanetti> dandrader, not happening for you?
[17:26] <dandrader> mzanetti, still bringing my test laptop to trunk state of qtmir, qtubuntu, unity-api and unity8
[17:27] <ChrisTownsend> ltinkl: mzanetti: Here are failing tests as captured in the .xml file. I think we can parse out the errors from it: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13369251/
[17:27] <mzanetti> I wonder how it passed in the silo then
[17:28] <ltinkl> it passes here
[17:28] <ChrisTownsend> This is better: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13369307/
[17:28] <ChrisTownsend> This is during package build time.
[17:28] <ltinkl> QFATAL : LauncherModelTest::testCountChangeSyncsToAS() Received signal 11
[17:28] <ltinkl> crashes?
[17:29] <ChrisTownsend> Basically, I did a bzr branch lp:unity8, reverted the one little change, and did a debuild -us -uc.
[17:30] <ltinkl> mzanetti, is "debuild" running tests during compilation?
[17:31] <ChrisTownsend> ltinkl: The tests run after everything compiles.
[17:31] <ChrisTownsend> ltinkl: But, yes, the tests are being run by debuild.
[17:33] <mzanetti> ltinkl, yes
[17:33] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, I've reverted that commit, cursor still gone
[17:34] <ChrisTownsend> Ok, well, there goes my theory:)
[17:34] <mzanetti> sad thing is, atm I don't have a better one
[17:35] <ltinkl> mzanetti, ChrisTownsend: I can't reproduce it here, with or without
[17:36] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: bregma doesn't see the issue either on xenial.
[17:36] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, mzanetti, I've a cursor here
[17:36] <mzanetti> ltinkl, the missing cursor or the launcher test?
[17:36] <ltinkl> mzanetti, neither
[17:37] <ChrisTownsend> Why, cursor, why?!?!?!?
[17:37] <ltinkl> mzanetti, but I'm convinced they're unrelated
[17:37] <mzanetti> definitely
[17:37] <mzanetti> ltinkl, test is passing for me too
[17:37] <ChrisTownsend> ltinkl: Oh, I don't think they are related either.
[17:37] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, could you please rm everything in .cache/upstart, launch a unity8-mir session, then send me the resulting unity8.log?
[17:38] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Yep, will do.
[17:39] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, also, what do you have in /usr/share/icons/default and where does the symlink /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme point to?
[17:41] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: For you second question: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13369699/
[17:41] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Working on the unity8.log.
[17:42] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, and "ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme"?
[17:43] <mzanetti> dandrader, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13369707/
[17:43] <mzanetti> dandrader, this is, however, with the updateHotspot() commit removed
[17:43] <mzanetti> can't see any error message tho
[17:43] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13369768/
[17:44] <ChrisTownsend> $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme
[17:44] <ChrisTownsend> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Mar 18 2013 /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme -> /usr/share/icons/DMZ-White/cursor.theme
[17:44] <mzanetti> I know it is not just frozen because pressing "tab" allows me to focus the password field and I can log in. just no cursor around
[17:44] <dandrader> all seem fine
[17:46] <dandrader> mzanetti, willing (have time) to build&run a unity8 branch full of debug stuff to help me out? how much time you still have today before your EOD?
[17:46] <mzanetti> dandrader, can do
[17:47] <mzanetti> instructions?
[17:49] <ChrisTownsend> As an aside, I downgraded to the previous package version of Unity 8 and the cursor is back.
[17:50] * mzanetti does some bisecting in the meantime
[17:50] <ltinkl> dandrader, can you reproduce? I can't
[17:51] <dandrader> mzanetti, ChrisTownsend, you guys should be using my laptop. everything works there. it's great!
[17:51] <dandrader> ltinkl, I can't either
[17:51] <mzanetti> haha
[17:51] <dandrader> ltinkl, so you must have a good laptop as well :)
[17:51] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: lol, I'm beginning to think my laptop is haunted.
[17:52] <dandrader> mzanetti, hmmm. could that be uinput telling unity8 there's no mouse present?
[17:53] <dandrader> mzanetti, that would make the Cursor.visible = false in Shell.qml
[17:53] <mzanetti> not excluding it, yes
[17:53] <mzanetti> in that case, likely
[17:53] * mzanetti verifies
[17:53] <ltinkl> easy to check, connect one more mouse :)
[17:53] <dandrader> s/uinput/that input lib unity8 uses
[17:54] * ltinkl tries w/o mouse, just with touchpad
[17:54] <mzanetti> right... must be it... ChrisTownsend and me using touchpad. afaik ltinkl and dandrader using desktops
[17:54] <ChrisTownsend> Right, I have a laptop w/ touchapd.
[17:54] <ltinkl> yeah
[17:54] <ltinkl> cursor gone when mouse is unplugged :/
[17:55] <mzanetti> ack.
[17:55] <ltinkl> just the touchpad doesn't cut it anymore
[17:55] * mzanetti assigns bug back to himself
[17:56] <ChrisTownsend> Yep, when I plug in a mouse, the cursor shows up.
[17:56] <ltinkl> mzanetti, I wonder how your new virtual touchpad will come into the mix
[17:57] <mzanetti> that identifies itself as a mouse... and now I think that is wrong :D
[17:57] <dandrader> mzanetti, I've a mouse attached to my laptop
[17:57] <ltinkl> mzanetti, ye that too but think about this scenario: connect a BT mouse to your phone, attach a screen, disconnect the mouse -> cursor should still stay
[17:58] <ChrisTownsend> Funny, I can control the cursor with the touchpas as long as a mouse is plugged in.
[17:58] <ltinkl> ChrisTownsend, ye you can always control it, the problem is you can't see it :)
[17:58] <dandrader> mzanetti, ChrisTownsend, yeah, no mouse pointer once I detached the mouse
[17:59] <ChrisTownsend> Thanks guys for the help!
[18:00] * davmor2 pictures mzanetti as the third chuckle brother, "to me, to you" :)
[18:01] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13370155/
[18:01] <bregma> I have a laptop with a touchpad (and touchscreen) and I see the cursor
[18:01] <mzanetti> bregma, up to date?
[18:02] <bregma> as of an hour ago, yes
[18:02] <mzanetti> hmm
[18:02] <ChrisTownsend> Maybe the touchscreen makes it appear.
[18:02] <mzanetti> unlikely
[18:02] <ltinkl> bregma, touchpad with physical buttons?
[18:02] <mzanetti> however, for example Meizu phones claim to have a mouse attached
[18:02] <bregma> man, the touchscreen really sucks wit hthe cursor
[18:02] <ltinkl> ChrisTownsend, ye unlikely, got a touch screen too
[18:02] <bregma> before I upgraded, the touchscreen wasn't working with Unity 8, so go figure
[18:03] <mzanetti> so I could imagine bregma's laptop having some weird thing that identifies itself as a mouse too
[18:03] <ltinkl> yea
[18:03] <mzanetti> bregma, would be nice if you could find out what on your system claims to be a mouse
[18:03] <bregma> I have an older semi-multitouch touchpad on this laptop
[18:03] <ltinkl> bregma, so your touchpad, a clickpad or with physical buttons
[18:03] <bregma> it has physical buttons
[18:03] <ChrisTownsend> lol, a Frankenstein laptop, probably a RasPi hanging off of it saying it's a mouse.
[18:03] <bregma> is there the equivalent of xinput for Mir/U8 ?
[18:03] <ltinkl> mzanetti, ye I think it's the physical buttons
[18:04] <dandrader> ltinkl, my test laptop touchpad's has physical buttons and I still don't get a cursor unless I connect a mouse to it
[18:04] <bregma> raspi is hanging off a different machine
[18:04] <ltinkl> dandrader, ye it probably depends on how the system sees the pointing device
[18:06] <bregma> oh, there's also a nipple on this machine
[18:07] <bregma> the nipple shows up with EV_SYN EV_KEY EV_REL
[18:07] <bregma> bet the system interprets that as a mouse-type device
[18:07] <bregma> good ol' EV_REL
[18:07] <mzanetti> bregma, how did you check?
[18:08] <bregma> su lsinput (from a ssh session)
[18:09] <mzanetti> right... EV_ABS
[18:09] <bregma> the touchpad and touchscreen (and pen, although that's long lost somewhere down behind the desk) show up as EV_ABS devices, which makes perfect sense
[18:10] <mzanetti> strange tho... isn't a touchpad relative too?
[18:10] <bregma> no
[18:11] <mzanetti> if I touch my touchpad in the upper right corner, the cursor doesn't jump over there...
[18:11] <mzanetti> which is what I would understand as absolute
[18:11] <mzanetti> but it moves from it's current position relative to my finger movement...
[18:11] <bregma> that's because it's being treated as a mouse emulator
[18:11] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: BTW, your patch fixes it for me as well.
[18:11] <bregma> that's just how the system is interpreting the data, not how it's being reported
[18:12] <mzanetti> right...
[18:14] <ChrisTownsend> Another issue I'm seeing...the App Scope is behaving strangely.
[18:14] <ChrisTownsend> It always comes up in the upper left corner is kind of small.
[18:14] <ChrisTownsend> And scrolling in it is slow. Resizing it is slow as well.
[18:17] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, close dash to make it respawn
[18:17] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: That does help.
[18:18] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Known issue?
[18:18] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, the auto-started untiy8-dash (as soon you log in a unity8-mir session ) is in some funky state
[18:18] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, it used to be worse. you would see only a black screen in place of unity8-dash until you closed/restarted it
[18:19] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, know but I'm not sure if it's reported
[18:19] <dandrader> ChrisTownsend, *known
[18:19] <ChrisTownsend> dandrader: Ok
[18:19] <ChrisTownsend> thanks
[18:21] <ltinkl> ChrisTownsend, I get a blank dash as well
[18:28] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, that's not new tho :/
[18:29] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, fix on the way btw: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/detect-touchpads/+merge/278190
[18:29] <mzanetti> including tests that test with touchpads too, not just mice
[18:29] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Well, a new qtmir was released today that I thought was supposed to revert the previous issue. Is a different issue?
[18:29] <mzanetti> yes, the dash in desktop mode has been happening for ages already
[18:30] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Ok
[18:30] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, well, try just closing it, it should respawn and work
[18:30] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Right, the defacto way to fix the Dash in desktop:)
[18:31] <mzanetti> ChrisTownsend, but good to know it's still happening for you. Albert tried today and couldn't repro any more
[18:31] <mzanetti> will let him know on monday
[18:31] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Well, it seemed to be working better after the qtmir update, but before the latest unity8 update.
[18:32] <mzanetti> mhm
[18:32] <mzanetti> I still think it is a race
[18:32] <mzanetti> and not being fixed yet
[18:32] <mzanetti> albert and gerry weren't sure if they fixed it. just happened to change something in the area and it wouldn't happen any more for them
[18:32] <mzanetti> anyhow, will keep it on the list then
[18:33] <mzanetti> thanks for all the feedback ChrisTownsend, much appreciated
[18:33] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Ok, thanks.
[18:33] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Sure, I'm glad to help.
[18:33] <mzanetti> ok. gotta leave now.
[18:33] <mzanetti> have a nice weekend everybody!
[18:33] <mzanetti> o/
[18:33] <ChrisTownsend> mzanetti: Bye!
[20:35] <VsyachePuz> shiznix: tell this to the authors of Workrave application which was forced to implement a class per each type of panel.
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[04:41] <KonneyS> Hi there, i just switched from xubuntu to ubuntu studio and basically lost all sound (input and output) Can someone pplease help me here? I think it's going to be the JACK server not having the right soundcard settings, but i cant figure it out :(
[14:53] <studio-user207> hello
[14:53] <studio-user207> someone could help me?
[14:54] <studio-user207> I want to install ubuntustudio on my pc
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !install | studio-user207
[18:00] <luca_> lol
[19:40] <jean_> cook
[19:42] <lars_CB> greetings
[19:42] <lars_CB> anyone with patience and low blood pressure online :-)
[19:50] <lars_CB> Oh well, just wondering how to modify the keymap in Xfce - got a fairly morose windows key sitting here, all gloomy and as useless as wheels on a parakeet.
[23:26] <desiworm> :< help
[23:27] <desiworm> i can't get qjackctl to find my behringer xenyx 1204usb in the connections menu
[23:27] <desiworm> alsa finds it fine, but i need to route my audio output to my speakers in ardour, while using the usb mixer as an input
[23:27] <OvenWerks> desiworm: which version of ubuntustudio?
[23:28] <desiworm> the most current, as far as I know
[23:28] <desiworm> i downloaded the ISO, like, a month ago maybe?
[23:28] <OvenWerks> ok
[23:29] <OvenWerks> you are talking about using two Audio devices which is generally not done in Jack
[23:29] <OvenWerks> You would need to use zita-a2j/j2a for the other sound device
[23:30] <OvenWerks> in a terminal type: arecord -l
[23:30] <OvenWerks> -l is a lower case L
[23:30] <OvenWerks> it will tell you what the name of your USB audio IF is.
[23:32] <desiworm> alright, and zita-a2j/j2a should add channels to help reroute the sound?
[23:32] <OvenWerks> yes.
[23:32] <OvenWerks> for example: zita-a2j -j ${AI2}-in -d hw:${AI2} -r $RATE -p $FRAME -n $PERIOD &
[23:34] <OvenWerks> zita-a2j -j usbinput -d hw:USB -r 48000 -p 1024 -n 2 &
[23:40] <OvenWerks> desiworm: Please note that zita-a2j has to do resampling because your USB IF and your internal IF will have slightly different sample rates even though they are set the same. But zita-a2j/j2a has some of the very best resampling around.
[23:42] <desiworm> YES! that fixed it
[23:42] <desiworm> took me a minute to get the device name right
[23:42] <desiworm> thank you so much :D
[23:43] <desiworm> hm, well, i have input now, but no output through the headphones i'm using :\
[23:48] <desiworm> scratch that, i didn't have it routed correctly.
[23:56] <OvenWerks> desiworm: great. Have fun.
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[10:21] <rmg51> Morning
[13:16] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-news
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[23:21] <tsimonq2> pleia2: heyo, ready to rock and roll :D
[23:21] <pleia2> o/ tsimonq2
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-gr
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[15:31] <xeirwn> exei kapoios idea gia to librenet.gr ?
[15:58] <ee2455> xeirwn: Τί ακριβώς θες να μάθεις για το librenet.gr;
[16:50] <xeirwn> geia sou ee2455 , h8ela kserw an badizei auto to protject...eixa arketous mhnes na mpw
[16:52] <xeirwn> psaxnw ena enallaktiko tou facebook
[16:56] <ee2455> Απ' ό,τι ξέρω, το librenet.gr είναι ένα "diaspora node", ένας server δηλαδή που τρέχει το diaspora software. Αναρωτιέσαι αν «βαδίζει» ο συγκεκριμένος server ή γενικά το diaspora project;
[16:58] <xeirwn> o sugkekrimenos server...egine mia prospa8eia sthn arxh , alla den blepw kinisi...ektos kai ean mou diafeugei kati.
[17:07] <ee2455> Απ' ό,τι βλέπω, ο συγκεκριμένος server είναι alive and kicking. Εχει καλό uptime, αρκετούς active users, καλό rating... Ολα αυτά από εδώ: https://podupti.me/?advancedview=true
[17:08] <ee2455> Δεν τον έχω χρησιμοποιήσει ποτέ βέβαια. Ούτε αυτόν, ούτε κανέναν άλλο diaspora server.
[17:08] <xeirwn> thx, prin ligo hmouna mesa, kai koitaza...isws kai na mhn exw piasei to pneuma tou akoma
[17:09] <xeirwn> pws briskoume ta kanalia tou diaspora se allh glwssa ?
[17:09] <ee2455> Δεν έχω ιδέα. Τί «κανάλια» όμως; Νόμιζα ότι το diaspora λειτουργεί πάνω-κάτω όπως το Facebook με τη διαφορά ότι είναι decentralized.
[17:11] <xeirwn> ok etsi nomiza ki egw....gi auto eipa prin isws kati mou diafeugei
[17:15] <ee2455> Πώς λειτουργεί το Facebook; Ψάχνεις γνωστούς και φίλους και τους προσθέτεις στη λίστα με τους «φίλους» σου. Υποθέτω κάπως έτσι θα λειτουργεί και το diaspora...
[17:16] <ee2455> Δεν έχω χρησιμοποιήσει κανένα από τα δύο όμως.
[17:16] <kerato> den exeis facebook?!
[17:17] <xeirwn> exw, alla 8elw na fugw apo ekei
[17:20] <xeirwn> auto pou den katalabainw einai oti gia na fugw apo to librenet.gr, kai na mpw sto liberdade.digital mou zhtaei na kanw pali account
[17:24] <ee2455> kerato: Ανήκω στους «λοξούς» που δεν έχουν Facebook...
[17:25] <kerato> einai arketa voliko
[17:25] <kerato> since everybody uses it
[17:27] <ee2455> Ναι, φαντάζομαι ότι όντως είναι πολύ βολικό. Είναι και πολύ αδιάκριτό όμως :-)
[17:27] <xeirwn> poio enoeis boliko?... to diaspora, h to facebook ?
[17:27] <ee2455> xeirwn: Εννοεί το Facebook.
[17:27] <kerato> e nai
[17:29] <xeirwn> katebainw gia faghto.......ta leme argotera
[17:48] <xeirwn> loipon kerato , gia lege twra , giati einai boliko ?
[17:48] <kerato> giati exei terastio userbase
[17:48] <kerato> kai an exeis epixeirhsh h whatever
[17:49] <kerato> einai h pio apotelesmatikh (kai tsampa) diafimisi
[17:49] <xeirwn> auto swsto...alla einai kai adiakrito ontws , opws eipe prin o ee2455
[17:50] <kerato> eh dialegeis se poion 8a emfanizetai ti
[17:50] <xeirwn> epsaxna sto google ssd diskous, kai meta mpika sto facebook, kai mou petaei diafimisi mono ssd diskous
[17:50] <kerato> :)
[17:51] <xeirwn> eee nai , kai erxomai sta logia tou ee2455
[17:51] <ee2455> kerato: Ο Zuckerberg τα βλέπει όλα όμως.
[17:51] <kerato> katarxhn meta to "epsaxna sto google" mallon to exeis hdh xasei to paixnidi
[17:51] <kerato> kata defteron einai toso megalo to traffic
[17:51] <kerato> pou kaneis de ta vlepei ola
[17:51] <xeirwn> giati vre kerato ?
[17:51] <kerato> kai malon kaneis de noiazetai ti efages
[17:51] <kerato> h ti pozes kanei h gata sou
[17:52] <xeirwn> noiazetai kai paranoiazetai...alloiws den 8a mou petouse diafhmiseis mono me ssd diskous
[17:53] <kerato> heuristic me8odoi einai ayto sthn praksh
[17:53] <kerato> imho an einai na vlepeis diafimiseis
[17:53] <kerato> 8a protimousa nanai stoxeymenes
[17:53] <kerato> para oti nanai
[17:53] <kerato> alliws, vale ena adblock h kati
[17:54] <xeirwn> ma stoxeumenh htane.......to 8ema einai ti douleia exei to facebook na gnwrizei gia poio pragma epsaxna egw sto net se allo para8uro tou browser
[17:58] <xeirwn> h diafhmisi , outws h allws einai biasmos...akribws epidi den se rwtane .
[18:06] <ee2455> kerato: Για να είναι στοχευμένες οι διαφημίσεις όμως, πρέπει να τηρείται αναλυτικό προφίλ για κάθε χρήστη. Και ναι μεν το όλο σύστημα είναι αυτοματοποιημένο και κανένας human δεν ασχολείται με το δικό μου προφίλ ειδικά, αλλά η ιδέα ότι όλα αυτά τα personal data
[18:06] <ee2455> είναι έξω από τον έλεγχό μου είναι ενοχλητική.
[18:08] <ee2455> Επιπλέον, δε μ' αρέσει η ιδέα να είμαι locked-in στο walled garden του Zuckerberg.
[18:08] <kerato> katanohto, ka8enas dialegei kai pratei analogws
[18:08] <kerato> mporeis nasai sto diaspora mazi me allous 3
[18:08] <ee2455> Χαχαχα!
[18:09] <ee2455> Τουλάχιστον δε θα βλέπω όλες αυτές τις εικόνες με τα inspirational quotes...
[18:13] <xeirwn> gi auto rotw....to giati to diaspora dld f8inei anti na anebainei
[18:14] <ee2455> Γιατί δεν έχει αρκετά μεγάλο userbase.
[18:14] <ee2455> Οντως φθίνει όμως;
[18:14] <ee2455> Δηλαδή οι χρήστες του μειώνονται αντί να αυξάνονται;
[18:15] <xeirwn> den exw logs, gia na kserw epakribws, alla koitaksa to site pou edwses prin
[18:16] <xeirwn> 472 energoi xrhstes mono sto librenet :(
[18:16] <ee2455> Πόσους χρήστες έχει /όλο/ το δίκτυο όμως;
[18:17] <xeirwn> upologizw 25.000-30.000
[18:19] <ee2455> Η Wikipedia λέει «[...] As of March 2014, there are more than 1 million Diaspora accounts». Βέβαια /accounts/ δε σημαίνει active users...
[18:19] <xeirwn> to kako einai oti an 8eleis na mpeis se allo xwro ( entos diasporas) se allh glwssa , sou zhtaei na kaneis ksana kainourgio account
[18:20] <ee2455> Αν φτιάξεις καινούργιο account, γίνεται να μεταφέρεις όλο το προφίλ σου από τον προηγούμενο server;
[18:20] <xeirwn> auto den to kserw...den to dokimasa
[18:22] <xeirwn> kala mono emeis oi treis eimaste edw ?
[18:22] <kerato> exei release party me8avrio
[18:22] <xeirwn> aaaa masta
[18:23] <kerato> asxeto apla to anaferw
[18:25] <xeirwn> psaxnw ena enallaktiko tou facebook , pou na asxolounte omws me fotografia
[18:26] <ee2455> xeirwn: How do I move my seed (account) from one pod to another? In the future you will be able to export your seed from a pod and import it on another, but this is not currently possible. You could always open a new account and add your contacts to aspects on that new seed, and ask them to add your new seed to their aspects.
[18:26] <ee2455> Από εδώ: https://wiki.diasporafoundation.org/FAQ_for_users
[18:27] <xeirwn> thx ee2455 :-)...ara eimaste sto perimene
[18:28] <xeirwn> alla kai pali, gia na allakseis pod, prepei na exeis account se ka8e pod....mipws einai ligo uperboliko ?
[18:29] <ee2455> Δεν έχω καταλάβει γιατί θες να αλλάξεις server (aka "pod"). Παίζει ρόλο σε ποιόν server βρίσκεσαι;
[18:31] <xeirwn> nai giati psaxnw users me paromoia endiaferonta me ta dika mou.
[18:31] <xeirwn> kalws ton talos-mintgr
[18:32] <ee2455> Αν εγώ έχω το προφίλ μου σε έναν server και εσύ το δικό σου σε κάποιον άλλο, δεν μπορούμε να είμαστε «friends» και να βλέπουμε ο ένας τα posts του άλλου;
[18:33] <xeirwn> upopsiazomai oxi...alla isws kserei kalutera o talos-mintgr na mas pei
[18:34] <xeirwn> enw sto facebook exei groups , p.x. mono gia fotografia, mono gia topia k.l.p.
[18:34] <ee2455> Στοιχηματίζω ότι /μπορούμε/ να είμαστε «friends». Αλλιώς τί νόημα θα είχε να μιλάμε για diaspora /network/;
[18:35] <ee2455> Αν δε γινόταν θα είχαμε απλά isolated servers που δεν ανταλλάσουν τίποτα μεταξύ τους.
[18:35] <ee2455> Δεν υπάρχουν στο diaspora groups;
[18:40] <xeirwn> loipon mpika sto ollandiko pod...megalh diafora se kinisi , kai se poiotikes fotos.
[18:47] <xeirwn> an sou aresoun oi kales fotoś empa sto /pod.orkz.net
[18:50] <ee2455> OK, thanks :-)
[19:38] <xeirwn> paides sas afhnw...kalh sas nuxta !!
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-community-team
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[08:30] <dholbach> hola ara, salut davidcalle
[08:30] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:30] <ara> hey!
[08:36] <davidcalle> popey, hey, is there a limit to the number of screenshots one can upload for one app on myapps?
[09:34] <popey> davidcalle, don't think so
[11:42] <dholbach> balloons, davidcalle, dpm, mhall119|fossetc, popey: do you think you can add UCADay posts you find to http://pad.ubuntu.com/mgAeFJwgAa? it's for Amrisha
[11:43] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok
[11:52] <dpm> thanks for organizing this dholbach
[11:54] <dholbach> no worries
[13:25] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, about staging, all the tests yesterday have left the db in a broken state (in-between migrations). I've reseted it completely, and I'm doing a deployment of r145 (django 1.6), which will be followed by r150 on top, to see where we are. After that, I'll get a dump of prod and repeat the process with prod data.
[13:33] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'm crossing all my fingers
[13:38] <davidcalle> dholbach, same, toes as well. In-between deploys, I'm preparing the django showdown app http://i.imgur.com/2mpOU03.png you'll have to review soon-ish
[13:39] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[14:03] <davidcalle> dholbach, swift issue is preventing staging deployments... /me goes to #webops
[14:03] <dholbach> davidcalle, is that with the downgraded swift* packages?
[14:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, it wasn't an issue with the version apparently, r145 is failing as well
[14:04] <dholbach> oh
[14:05] <dholbach> I was assuming it was my fault :)
[14:07] <davidcalle> Nope :)
[14:21] <balloons> Happy Friday everyone
[14:23] <balloons> And of course, it's a special day being uca day
[14:31] <jcastro> dholbach: ahmed shams! there's a name I haven't heard in a while!
[14:32] <dholbach> :-)
[14:32] <jcastro> I have a handful of UCA posts
[14:33] <jcastro> I will do them over the next few hours
[14:37] <dholbach> very nice!
[14:37] * davidcalle brb
[14:45] <dholbach> all right... I need to pack and run now - so see you back on Monday! Have a great UCADay and weekend! :)
[14:58] <dpm> hey marcoceppi, how is the ubucon charm coming along?
[14:59] <marcoceppi> dpm: good, I think I have configuration files figured out, which was my major blocker. I've got meetings most of my morning but I carved a bit of time out in the afternoon to wrap it up
[15:00] <dpm> argh, brb, phone call
[15:17] <dpm> marcoceppi, cool, thanks. Do you still think it's doable for today? Are you foreseeing any blockers?
[15:21] <popey> balloons, added dan as a mentor, he also has a chunk of tasks to add :D
[15:22] <balloons> popey, :-) Are other core app devs going to do similar things or ?
[15:23] <popey> I'll be adding some
[15:23] <popey> Am asking core app devs in meetings
[16:01] <balloons> ok, as you can see I've added a couple mentors
[16:02] <balloons> I'm curious if you've asked any flavors yet? I'm assuming José is still quite busy
[18:22] <jcastro> is there a way we can ask the full circle people to update their feed or something so their planet posts are about actual ubuntu?
[18:22] <pleia2> jcastro: you could email ronnie
[18:23] <pleia2> he's the contact for that feed
[18:23] <jcastro> do you have something more googleable than just ronnie? :)
[18:24] <jcastro> tucker, found it
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-hr
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[05:51] <Mmike> vileni, kaj fali gril zoni?
[06:52] <vileni> Mmike: sve
[06:52] <vileni> onako, sva ta hrana lici na nesto sto je negdje drugdje dobro
[06:52] <SilverSpace> jutro
[06:52] <vileni> ali tamo nije
[06:55] <SilverSpace> odlicni nadojeb za chrome http://is.gd/urkPES
[07:05] <Mmike> vileni: stada? pa de napisi slovo koje tamo!
[07:06] <Mmike> vileni: taj lik i tak ima cudan ukus s hranom, liku je grana bila alfa i omega svega
[07:06] <Mmike> (doduse, mozda sam ja samo imao nesrecu pa nalijetao na lose dane)
[07:06] * Mmike je u birtiji - takva je guzva po cesti da sam odustao od voznje, cekam 9-pol10 da se relociram
[07:06] <Mmike> vileni: blizu starog posla sam ti ;)
[07:06] <vileni> Mmike: pa grana je malo bolja od grill zone
[07:07] <vileni> tamo smo isli jesti kad nam se jelo meso, i onda su patili svi koji su me vodili tamo jer sam stalno pricao kako je u zg bolje :)
[07:07] <Mmike> lol :)
[07:08] <vileni> zadnji put nisam vise htio pa su me vodili u lovorku, koja je nesto bolja
[07:11] <Mmike> kme :( ne rade mi autopkg testovi
[07:11] <Mmike> zasto, lastane, pa sve sam napravjio kak si mi reko!
[07:24] <pkiller> esavjetovanja.gov.org
[07:24] <pkiller> /* Minification failed. Returning unminified contents.
[07:24] <pkiller> (2632,17): run-time error CSS1036: Expected expression, found '8'
[07:24] <pkiller> (2670,17): run-time error CSS1036: Expected expression, found '8'
[07:24] <pkiller> */y
[07:27] <pkiller> po ovome možeš pretpostaviti da je ASP.net :)
[07:33] <BotaniCar> Ima kaj za jest' u Dominu, Mmike ?
[07:33] <Mmike> BotaniCar: jok
[07:34] <BotaniCar> Kurac je to onda, a ne bertija :) Ni kikiriki ?
[07:34] <BotaniCar> Anywho, jel snijeg-prognoza jos stoji ?
[07:34] <BotaniCar> Da probam te gume, majku im staru
[07:37] <SilverSpace> 20cm za vikend
[07:38] <SilverSpace> samo nisu rekli gdje :)
[07:40] <BotaniCar> Da, tko li je sretnica koja ce ih dobit'
[07:41] <Mmike> gledam sad
[07:41] <Mmike> i ne kuzim kaj tipkas, BotaniCar
[07:41] <Mmike> i onda spoznam
[07:41] <Mmike> i cijela birtija me gleda kak se kikocem :)
[07:41] <BotaniCar> :D
[07:41] <BotaniCar> 'ko ih jebe kad ne ircaju :)
[07:42] <BotaniCar> Mmike: http://www.vecernji.hr/zg-vijesti/rat-za-tvornicu-pljeskavica-1038487
[07:43] <Mmike> da, da
[07:46] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZw7ZnxWKjs
[07:46] <datase> YouTube: Behind the Wheel with Jackie Stewart - 1:00:21 - 21601 views - 115 likes / 2 dislikes
[07:46] <Mmike> jako preporucam svima koji bi htjelli dobro voziti auto
[07:48] <BotaniCar> Ja bi! Al' auto mi bas i nije high performance
[07:51] <pkiller> ja se još vozim sa longboardom (vozit ću se cijelu zimu, brijem) a vi o snijegu... pih
[07:53] <BotaniCar> HA ! Nmap 7 !
[07:53] <BotaniCar> https://nmap.org/7/
[07:55] <pkiller> kul
[07:57] <Mmike> BotaniCar: nema veze, ovo sto lik prica vrijedi za svaki auto
[07:57] <BotaniCar> MOSTovci su skroz cool: http://www.vecernji.hr/izbori2015/most-objavio-reformske-zahtjeve-za-podrucje-lokalne-i-regionalne-samouprave-te-javne-uprave-1038625
[07:57] <Mmike> uz to prica normalnim jezikom
[07:57] <BotaniCar> Mmike: zezeam se, bukmarkao sam, uvijek mo'sh nesh naucit'
[08:11] <SilverSpace> https://youtu.be/eRuW9L8hP-8
[08:11] <datase> YouTube: Thurrock’s Kamarl Duncan scored one of the craziest wind-assisted own goals ever v Romford - 0:00:30 - 22063 views - 21 likes / 0 dislikes
[08:11] <SilverSpace> bura
[08:12] <BotaniCar> Mondelez EU B2B2C <- no B2G ? Pfft
[08:21] <Hrki> BotaniCar: nakraju nisam uspio, sve sam probal, nema veze vratil liku laptop :)
[08:21] <BotaniCar> Pih, odustao si?!
[08:22] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: izgleda da je splash screen kriv
[08:23] <SilverSpace> vise ne blohira od kad sam ga maknuo
[08:23] <Hrki> ma jesam, nije ni moj laptop, a samo sam mu diska novog stavljo, zalemio wifi i instaliro win7 sa programima
[08:23] <pkiller> mozda je bio coruptan "splash screen.png"
[08:24] <Hrki> kaze da mu nije bitno, reko ok :)
[08:24] <Hrki> cak sam i bios updejto XD
[08:24] <pkiller> svaka čast hrki :)
[08:25] <Hrki> i najveca jebada mi je na kraju ispala podesavanje officea :D
[08:25] <Hrki> nego, sad imam pitanje u vezi mreze :)
[08:26] <Hrki> kako da provjerim ip kompova spojenih u workgroup XD
[08:26] <BotaniCar> sto znaci provjeriti IP ?
[08:26] <Mmike> SilverSpace: kaj ce utrka?
[08:26] <BotaniCar> Hrki: pogledaj "the dude" ako trebas rudimentarnu mapu mreze.
[08:30] <Hrki> nije li to lik sa big lebowskog? XD
[08:36] <BotaniCar> Mislio sam na http://www.mikrotik.com/thedude
[08:39] <SilverSpace> Mmike: iduci vikend
[08:40] <Mmike> jebo dep8
[08:40] <SilverSpace> http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/championship/races/2015/Abu_Dhabi.html
[08:42] <SilverSpace> konacno kraj dosadne sezone
[08:42] <pkiller> Hrki: još jednostavniji program http://angryip.org/
[08:46] <Mmike> SilverSpace: potpisujem
[08:46] <Mmike> fakat dosadna
[08:46] <BotaniCar> pkiller: ovaj tvoj ne crta relacije :)
[08:46] <SilverSpace> http://www.telegram.hr/zivot/poznati-zagrebacki-vlasnici-pecenjara-ne-mogu-se-dogovoriti-oko-imena-evo-sto-nam-kazu-o-bizarnom-sukobu/
[08:46] <SilverSpace> koja reklama
[08:47] <SilverSpace> sad su po novinam
[08:47] <SilverSpace> sutra ce se grliti
[08:47] <SilverSpace> Mmike: par utrka bilo zamimljivo ostalo sve mercedes nedostizan
[08:48] <Mmike> yup
[08:48] <SilverSpace> zato je MotoGP jebeno dobar bio ove godine
[08:49] <Mmike> http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/jokic-istaknuo-nadstranacki-karakter-reforme-odgoja-i-obrazovanja-najavio-ukidanje-opceg-uspjeha-/855293.aspx
[08:49] <Mmike> s ovim sam likom isao na natjecanja iz astronomije u osnovnoj skoli :)
[08:50] <SilverSpace> :)
[08:50] <SilverSpace> skolstvo je inace u komi
[08:50] <SilverSpace> neujednacenost
[08:50] <SilverSpace> kriterija
[08:51] <SilverSpace> doduse nisu djeca svugdje ista
[08:52] <SilverSpace> moja sestra u dvije skole radi i u jednoj je ok a u drugoj uzas, a isti program radi i sa jednima i drugima
[08:54] <SilverSpace> zakljucak je sa je sve na roditeljima koliko se brinu o djeci
[08:57] <SilverSpace> jedna mama od jedne curice veli doslovno ovako Pa ne mora ona ništa uciti do petok razreda i tako im to ništa ne znaci
[09:01] <Hrki> hvala decki za programe
[09:01] <Hrki> a mene zanima, jel mogu kako poslati poruku nekom kompu u workgroup-u
[09:01] <SilverSpace> koji genije https://adriaticmedianethr.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/fora-dana14.gif
[09:01] <Hrki> ovaj msg mi nije bas jasan
[09:01] <Mmike> SilverSpace: kaj?
[09:01] <Hrki> pise da koristim msg username poruka
[09:01] <Mmike> SilverSpace: daj reci koja je to mama da ju dodjem napljuskat
[09:02] <Mmike> krmaca
[09:02] <SilverSpace> Mmike: nemres vjerovati a curica joj najzlocestija u razredu
[09:02] <Mmike> to ti velim
[09:02] <Mmike> samarcinu, odmah
[09:02] <Mmike> od moje zene kuma je teta u vrticu
[09:03] <Mmike> i veli ona da se tocno po djetetu vidi kakvi su roditelji
[09:03] <Mmike> veli da ima takvog zanemarivanja da je to uzas
[09:03] <SilverSpace> pa da
[09:03] <Mmike> mali jedan, 6 godina ima, ono, PRED FAKIN SKOLU, lik jos tepa kad prica
[09:03] <Mmike> sad mali radi s logopedom, vele da ce mu trebat bar godinu dana da ga poprave
[09:03] <Mmike> a zamisli sad, mora u skolu i to sve
[09:04] <Mmike> ma uzas
[09:04] <Mmike> idem
[09:04] <Mmike> osla mi baterija
[09:04] <Mmike> javim se iz ureda
[09:04] <SilverSpace> da uzas mi smo od prvog dana normalno razgovarali sa frankom i sve smo upozoravali koji su pokusali mu tepati i ta sranja
[09:08] <SilverSpace> Potres jačine 2,8 po Richteru zatresao Jastrebarsko
[09:29] <jelly> zijev
[09:42] <SilverSpace> joj koji likova ima
[09:43] <SilverSpace> lik pun para i 150 kn mu je puno da dva puta tjedno djete ide na gitaru
[09:45] <jelly> 600kn mjesecno, ej!
[09:45] <jelly> pardon, 1200kn, znas ti koliko je to kutija cigareta
[09:45] <SilverSpace> 150 mjesecno
[09:46] <jelly> oh, lol
[09:46] <SilverSpace> cca osm termina
[09:48] <jelly> 20kn po terminu, to je sica
[09:49] <SilverSpace> pa da ak mu je zelja nek se razonodi malo
[09:50] <SilverSpace> franko krenuo na gitaru i voli ici a kaj bu jos se ne zna
[09:51] <SilverSpace> svi izgleda nogometase htjeli od djece
[09:51] <SilverSpace> bi^
[09:54] <BotaniCar> Hrki: bilo je NET SEND prije, ne znam jel to jos radi
[09:55] * BotaniCar je siguran da ce mu klinac izrotirati 30 hobij prije nego mu, ako mu, nekaj sjedne
[09:55] <BotaniCar> Also, imam od koga posuditi gitaru :)
[09:57] <pkiller> gitara je odlična, evo ja samouk krenuo svirat sa 10 godina
[09:57] <pkiller> jedva starog nagovorio da mi kupi gitaru...
[09:58] <pkiller> zato ih sada imam 5
[10:04] <BotaniCar> Ie tko na Whitesnake ?
[10:04] <jelly> oni jos postoje? :-)
[10:08] <Mmike> pkiller: ide ti svirka? Imas di audio/video?
[10:21] <BotaniCar> jelly: jos mogu drzat' instrumente :)
[10:24] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: klinac vidi u skoli druge pa zazeli nece sad na sve ic
[10:24] <SilverSpace> neke zelje mu moras ispuniti
[10:24] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: cekam da malo poraste, pa cu mu objasniti da mu kolege jos ne znaju kaj oce od sebe i da gleda svoje afinitete.
[10:25] <BotaniCar> Al, da, dobro velis
[10:25] <SilverSpace> :)
[10:29] <pkiller> Mmike: imam nesto sitno... sad prije par dana sam isprobavao neke DAW-ove
[10:30] <Mmike> pkiller: daj da cujemo!
[10:30] <pkiller> uglavnom nemam snimljeno skoro niš
[10:30] <pkiller> samo koncept za jednu stvar
[10:31] <pkiller> jebo ove "javne kanale" koji se konstantno prate
[10:31] <pkiller> poslao na /msg Mmike
[10:32] <Mmike> slusam
[10:32] <BotaniCar> pfft, a di je moj msg ?
[10:32] <Mmike> kul )
[10:32] <Mmike> :)
[10:32] <Mmike> iako sam ja vise za malo brzi tempo
[10:32] <BotaniCar> A DI JE MOJ MSG PKILLER A !
[10:32] <pkiller> evo
[10:33] <pkiller> prerastao sam metal :)
[10:33] <pkiller> Mmike: sada brzi tempo samo u nekom experimentalnom tehnu ili elektronici
[10:33] <BotaniCar> NIkad ne prerastes metal, samo se pocnes praviti fin jer ti kozne tajice vise ne stoje
[10:33] <BotaniCar> https://youtu.be/qewaK-DHypA # frend ubije gitaru
[10:33] <datase> YouTube: Pink floyd-Comfortably numb solo - 0:02:17 - 123 views - 6 likes / 0 dislikes
[10:34] <Mmike> pkiller: http://mmike.mooo.com/~mario/harma/boogieJamTry1.ogg
[10:34] <Mmike> pkiller: to ja tandrkam po pianinu
[10:34] <pkiller> bluzer :)
[10:35] <pkiller> dogovorili bi se ja i ti :)
[10:36] <pkiller> zvuči kao pravi piano od 7k eura :)
[10:37] <Mmike> ideja je vremenom doci do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsyuH0QT_cg
[10:37] <datase> YouTube: Boogie Woogie Piano -- Caroline Dahl & Tom Rigney & Flambeau - 0:03:56 - 293801 views - 659 likes / 12 dislikes
[10:37] <Mmike> pkiller: pravi je piano, petrof neki, ima valjda 40 godina :)
[10:38] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ideja je vremenom doci do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1bTs4PYoWs
[10:38] <datase> YouTube: X-Mix 7 Dave Clarke - Electro Boogie 1996 - 0:48:33 - 2762 views - 25 likes / 0 dislikes
[10:38] <pkiller> "old money"
[10:38] <pkiller> :)
[10:46] <SilverSpace> https://youtu.be/MnzdAPY7sL4
[10:46] <datase> YouTube: Gitara za pocetnike - Lekcije za gitaru - lekcija 1od 5 "kako nastimati gitaru" - 0:05:36 - 9216 views - 165 likes / 2 dislikes
[10:46] <SilverSpace> ovaj lik dobro objasnjava
[10:47] <SilverSpace> netjak tek poceo uce c i g dur
[10:47] <SilverSpace> i zvoncice
[10:48] <pkiller> jos 2 akorda i zna svirat sve hitove
[10:49] <pkiller> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhivdSMdMxc
[10:49] <datase> YouTube: 4 Chords, 35 Songs on Guitar - 0:08:18 - 1942182 views - 18575 likes / 477 dislikes
[10:52] <Mmike> BotaniCar: nisam nikad stovao njegov elektro
[10:52] <Mmike> ali zato: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ompRYpQ0wyw
[10:52] <datase> YouTube: Dave Clarke Live @ I Love Techno 2001 - 1:30:21 - 3277 views - 16 likes / 0 dislikes
[11:01] <SilverSpace> dobra mu i knjiga free
[11:19] <BotaniCar> Kak mogu u MS access uvest postgresov dump ?
[11:19] <BotaniCar> Znam kak se zakaciti na samu bazu, ali to ne bi ( ne treba meni, vec korisniku kojem ne mogu vjerovati da nece pisati invazivne kverije )
[11:19] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ping, help, pong, hapl, plung :)
[11:21] <Mmike> a?
[11:21] <Mmike> BotaniCar: pa, nikak
[11:21] <Mmike> BotaniCar: moras neki tul uzet koji to radi, sam dump nemres importat
[11:22] <Mmike> (bar nisi mogo u Accessu2000) :D
[11:23] <BotaniCar> Mmike: znas li za koji takav tool ? Sve sto nalazim pretpostavlja da bezim od accessa
[11:26] <Mmike> BotaniCar: tu bi moralo bit
[11:26] <Mmike> http://www.sqlmanager.net/en/products
[11:27] <Mmike> BotaniCar: http://www.sqlmanager.net/en/products/postgresql/dataexport
[11:27] <Mmike> EMS Data Export for PostgreSQL is a powerful tool to export PostgreSQL database data quickly to any of 20 available formats, including MS Access, MS Excel, MS Word (RTF), HTML, XML, PDF, TXT, CSV, DBF, ODF and others.
[11:27] <BotaniCar> FalaLepa
[11:33] <pkiller> a json?
[11:33] <pkiller> :)
[11:34] <BotaniCar> Yo, son
[11:39] <pkiller> BotaniCar: kako radiš backupove baza... skriptama ili programima
[11:39] <pkiller> ?
[11:49] <BotaniCar> razmisljam kako je steta sto se vise ne fukam okolo. Pazi ulet : Ovo možemo da uradimo na dva načina. Da ti ga stavim ili da ga primiš.
[11:49] <BotaniCar> pkiller: oboje. redovne backupe skriptama, ad-hoc programima. Al, u pravilu backupiram cijelu virtulku.
[11:51] <pkiller> BotaniCar: ako backupaš cijelu virtualku brže recovery radiš nego sve posebno postavljat
[11:51] <pkiller> ali opet ako je samo nešto sitno u bazi lakše je samo iz backupa baze recovery napravit
[11:51] <BotaniCar> pda, zna mi biti brze c/p cijelu virtualku nekom nego da mu dumpam bazu i restoram negdje da si covo radi BI
[11:52] <BotaniCar> pkiller: treba mi par minuta da cijeli vserver ratim iz backupa, radim to i kad mi se tri reda u bazi koraptaju.
[11:53] <pkiller> mislio sam...
[11:53] <pkiller> nema više logike posebno za svaki servis radit backup kada su virtualke u điru
[11:57] <pkiller> recimo docker... pa di ces laksi backup od ovog: http://linuxconfig.org/docker-container-backup-and-recovery
[12:10] <BotaniCar> Ne trosim jos kontejnere
[12:14] <pkiller> ni ja... ali gledam ovaj vikend isprobat https://www.docker.com/docker-machine
[12:15] <pkiller> na scaleway-u
[12:15] <pkiller> pa ako mi se svidi... prebacim sve šta imam na jedan scaleway pa ako raste load samo uzmem jos jedan
[12:16] <pkiller> i onda sam privatne servere smanjio sa 80€ mjesecno na 4€ mjesecno :)
[12:34] <BotaniCar> Imam frendove koji se bave eticnim hakiranjem, svaki od njih veli da bi najradije dao pusu onima koji koriste docker :)
[12:41] <pkiller> mogu zamislit ... bavim se i ja istim pa im mogu poručiti da sam i ja tako mislio dok nisam probao u pravom scenariju :)
[12:43] <pkiller> docker je kao i svaki softver... ako ga održavaš je siguran, ako neznaš šta radiš i sve po defaultu onda nije :)
[12:48] <pkiller> vjerojatno misle na ovo... http://reventlov.com/advisories/using-the-docker-command-to-root-the-host
[12:49] <pkiller> što je neizvedivo ako user kojeg si haknuo ili dobio password nije u sudoers ili docker grupi
[12:49] <pkiller> docker grupu moraš gledat isto kao i sudoers grupu
[12:49] <pkiller> i nemaš problema
[12:59] <Mmike> scaleway je los
[12:59] <Mmike> nije za skaliranje
[12:59] <Mmike> treba 3-5 minuta da ti pokrene nesto
[12:59] <Mmike> sporo
[13:04] <pkiller> ha!
[13:04] <pkiller> neće mi ni pokrenuti... a kamoli 3-5 min
[13:05] <pkiller> starting server (allocating node) ...
[13:05] <pkiller> no space left nešto... crveni prozorćić nestane prije nego ga uspiješ pročitati
[13:08] <pkiller> no spot left with you configuration... ma daj gonite se
[13:08] <pkiller> your*
[13:41] <vileni> pa jebemu, sta je bilo tako tesko staviti port-forward u sintaksu umjesto forward-port
[13:41] <vileni> ili da radi i jedno i drugo
[14:04] <BotaniCar> pkiller: stvar je trivijalnija od toga. 90% ekipe vuce docker image iz neprovjerenih repozitorija, sikjuraj ti svoj kontejner dok ne umres, kad je taintan na izvoru.
[14:07] <BotaniCar> nego, di je onaj api ? Juce veli da je ugasio FB i kajaznam kaj, danas ga nadjem zivog i zdravog u frend listi,a tu ga nema :) Kaj je IRC veca danguba od FB-a ?
[14:07] <Mmike> ono kad osh bit super pa mami zalit cvijece, umjesto toga razbijes dvije tegle i sad sranje
[14:08] <BotaniCar> Pometi, kupi na placu nove tegle i reci joj ( reci da nije doma sad) da si joj odlucio pokloniti nove tegle
[14:08] <vileni> eto, BotaniCar me prestigao
[14:08] <vileni> isto bih i ja preporucio
[14:08] <Mmike> mah
[14:08] <vileni> kao, ove su bile stare i ruzne
[14:08] <Mmike> nemrem to preslozit ja
[14:08] <vileni> bitan je trud, voljet ce te mama i ako ne uspijes :)
[14:08] <BotaniCar> ako je sve rasuto po podu, trivijalno je presloziti :)
[14:12] <BotaniCar> Ovaj Oleg, bas nekad zna naci link https://medium.com/@Hrvoje/%C5%A1to-fali-na%C5%A1em-obrazovnom-sustavu-7d4c3608407f#.93w7ccc0x
[14:20] <vileni> to je to :) "Naucio sam krive stvari, naucio sam ih na krivi nacin"
[14:31] <SilverSpace> Bivša djevojka Zorana Vakule demantira prognozu: Ne vjerujte mu, i meni je najavio 20 centimetara
[14:36] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: sad sam to kolegici prepricao i ne smije se :)
[14:45] <CrazyMelon> mozda je i njoj najavio 20cm pa joj sad nije vise smijesno? :)
[14:45] <BotaniCar> Taknekaka, brijem :)
[14:45] <BotaniCar> al' vidim da pod stolom pomice palac i kaziprst, mozda jso uvijek nagadja koliko je 20cm :)
[14:53] <SilverSpace> https://youtu.be/wqrJ_OY8byY
[14:53] <datase> YouTube: SPEED CAMERAS (REMI GAILLARD) - 0:01:06 - 960703 views - 47680 likes / 918 dislikes
[14:54] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: hm jel ona zna kaj je 20cm :)
[14:54] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: ako je imala pravog decka, onda misli da je 10cm 20cm :)
[14:54] <BotaniCar> Ako je neki kaj oce sjebat' svakog nakon sebe, onda zna :)
[14:54] <SilverSpace> :)
[14:55] <SilverSpace> jak je remi
[14:56] <SilverSpace> tj mirek
[14:56] <BotaniCar> :)))))))
[16:05] <dodobas> yutro
[16:07] <kira> zdravo, im noob, rly noob ;D
[16:08] <kira> upravo instalirao svoj prvi linux :-)
[16:09] <kira> imam tonu pitanja... ima li koga iskusnijeg da mi odgovori na koje ili usmjeri u pravavom smjeru
[16:09] <kira> pls?
[16:10] <dodobas> ako postavis pitanje mozda netko i odgovori
[16:10] <kira> ok.. upravo procitao da je ubuntu nesiguran kao i win
[16:10] <kira> true?
[16:10] <kira> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.hr.html
[16:11] <kira> zna li itko gdje se iskljucuje taj spy mode
[16:11] <kira> te trebam li antivirus?
[16:13] <dodobas> nemam pojma, no korstim ubuntu na dektopu :)
[16:13] <kira> hvala na iskrenosti :D
[16:14] <dodobas> antivirus sam instalirao sam na mail server ...
[16:15] <kira> inace sam instalirao ubuntu jer mi je receno da je najjednostavniji linux i najpametniji odabir za stari laptop
[16:15] <kira> win 98 vise nema podrsku
[16:15] <kira> to sam vrtio prije linuxa
[16:15] <dodobas> nema ni windows xp...
[16:15] <dodobas> ili mozda ima, ako su opet produzili
[16:16] <kira> ma inace koristim win vec duze vrijeme radi jednostavnosi... pc mi treba samo za osnovne stvari ali sada mi je receno da je i linux postao usr friendly and simple to use
[16:17] <kira> jesam se zajebao sa ubuntu ili?
[16:18] <dodobas> pa ako ti ubuntu ogdgovara ... onda ga koristis :)
[16:18] <dodobas> *odgovara
[16:18] <kira> al evo pokusavam shvatit pravila igre ;)
[16:19] <dodobas> pa samo oga koristis, problem rjesavas kad dodjes do njega
[16:20] <kira> posebno sam bio sretan da se ne moram vise brinuti oko spy i virusa
[16:20] <kira> eto naletio odma na lijep clanak koji kaze da je ubuntu spyware :(
[16:20] <kira> ali da se moze nedgje iskljuciti... sad trazim gdje
[16:21] <kira> mislio sam da ce mozda neko znat
[16:21] <dodobas> a onda ti je bolje da ne koristis internet ... jer te svi prate...
[16:22] <kira> pa nije da cu hakirat nekog ili nesto... ali sama pomisao da sam sam... mi je bila pre dobra :-)
[16:22] <kira> sa win sam navikao da me se prati cim ga upalim :D
[16:23] <kira> imam i drugo racunalo sa win 7... takodjer sam mislio radije prec na linux nego na win 10... ali sada ... majke mi nemam pojma sta radit
[16:26] <dodobas> pa pokusas ga koristiti, pa vidis jel ti odgoovara ili ne
[16:26] <kira> ok ajde jedno konkretno pitanje... kako mogu pratit stanje procesora i memorije buiduci da sam jako ogranicen HW resursima
[16:26] <kira> ?
[16:27] <dodobas> sigurno imaju neke kontrole za to... na desktopu
[16:28] <kira> hmm evo bas trazim
[16:33] <CrazyMelon> system monitor je builtin
[16:36] <kira> bit ce ok kad se naviknem
[16:36] <kira> sada jos trazim nesto tima cmd
[16:36] <kira> di mofu upisat neku naredbu
[16:36] <kira> i onda googlat koja je to naredba da mi prikaze system monitor :D
[16:37] <CrazyMelon> pa naredbu upises u terminal
[16:37] <CrazyMelon> a system monitor nije naredba nego program
[16:37] <CrazyMelon> programe trazis u dashboardu
[16:38] <kira> gdje je dashboard?
[16:38] <CrazyMelon> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/
[16:39] <CrazyMelon> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/unity-dash-intro.html
[16:39] <CrazyMelon> klikaj i citaj :)
[16:39] <kira> ty
[16:40] <Mmike> pa ja cu popizdit
[16:40] <Mmike> s perconom
[16:40] <Mmike> vise
[16:40] <Mmike> (u biti sa sobom, idijot sam)
[16:40] <kira> cmon sigorno ne veci od mene
[16:41] <kira> ja ni nizz sta je to :D
[16:42] <kira> hvala na linku.. pa to je obican search. easy. nasao sam terminal :D
[16:44] <CrazyMelon> za tebe je obican search..za mene je to dashboard :D
[16:45] <kira> a znam sry ekipa :P
[16:52] <kira> nasao i system monitor
[16:52] <kira> :')
[16:53] <kira> ma malo me brine comodo antivirus trazi 2Ghz cpu
[16:53] <kira> ja to nemam
[16:55] <CrazyMelon> sta ce ti to?
[16:57] <kira> nezz, na win sam uvik prvo instalirao antivirus
[16:57] <kira> googlao sam malo i pise da se treba i na ubuntu
[16:57] <kira> jel to istina?
[16:58] <kira> mogu li ja sigurno surfat i prebacivat podatke preko USB na ubuntu bez antivirusa?
[17:03] <chaky> kira: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[17:04] <kira> ty
[17:05] <kira> upravo sam tu i shvatio da se ipak instalira antivir i na linux
[17:05] <kira> jedino se bojim koliko ce usporit vec sporo racunalo
[17:06] <kira> win 98 su mi se uzasno sporo vrtili sa avirom
[17:06] <kira> a i google je rekao svoje: comodo
[17:06] <chaky> kira: procitaj *zasto* se instalira antivirus na Linux
[17:07] <kira> :D
[17:07] <kira> da letimicno sam procitao
[17:07] <kira> da se zastitim od windowsa :D
[17:08] <chaky> ne
[17:12] <kira> tvoja preporuka.. da mi skratis muke.. imam osjecaj da se razumijes u linix.. stoga pls.. savjetuj jednog pocetnika sa jako ogranicenim vremenom i resursima :(
[17:13] <kira> dakle, obicno kucno racunalo, namjena pohrana skila sa mobitela i citanje novina preko interneta
[17:14] <vileni> ne treba ti antivirus za to
[17:14] <kira> no nemam iskustva sa racunalima i linuxom i nezz jeli on imun na probleme koje vrebaju prosjecnog korisnika na internetu
[17:15] <kira> ty vileni
[17:15] <vileni> ali ne skodi i procitati detaljno ponekad
[17:16] <vileni> isplati se dugorocno :)
[17:16] <kira> slazem se vileni, u pravu si
[17:17] <kira> ali racunala nsiu moj dir ali svejedno mi trebaju, cak i ovo racunalo pokusavam osposobit za nekog drugoga i nadam se da ce biti brzo i jednostavno kako bi mogao sve sta naucim lagano naucit nekoga tko je jos manje upucen u sve ovo :(
[17:19] <kira> ponovo, ne sudjelujem u onim win/linux ratovima, win koristim iz ciste prakticnosti jer mi ne ometaju svakodnevnicu, ne moram citat i istrazivt i ucit tonu stvari, samo pitam prvog lika do sebe kako nesto napravit i prob rj. :D
[17:20] <kira> sada je ispalo da za spasit ovaj stari comp je linux prakticno rj pa eto ... here i am :D
[17:20] <kira> nema se para ni vremena na bacanje :-)
[17:20] <SilverSpace> chaky: oj pa ti medu zivima :)
[17:20] <vileni> pa dobar izbor, iako ja nebi uzeo unity nego mozda nesto lakse ako je star kompjuter
[17:20] <vileni> ali ako radi zadovoljavajuce brzo, necemo komplicirati
[17:21] <vileni> ako je za nekog drugog, jasno naznaci gdje je "internet" i gdje su "slike" i to je to :)
[17:21] <kira> mhm da, zato sam i trazio system monitor da vidim jeli sve ok.. izgleda da je :D
[17:21] <vileni> (mi smo i na win morali ljudima chrome preimenovati u "internet")
[17:22] <kira> hahaha :D
[17:22] <kira> a znam... i mene ljudi gledaju kao da znam ko zna sta... a znam mozda mrvicu vise od njih.. ali eto ne bojim se pitat ili googlat :P
[17:24] <kira> imam i jedno nevezano pitanje za tebe vileni: otkako su zazivile soc mreze ne koristim irc, ali imam osjecaj da je prije bilo znatno vise ljudi.. what happened?
[17:25] <SilverSpace> kira: imas u tray za staviti System Load Indicator
[17:31] <vileni> kira: pa bas to, drustvene mreze su jednostavnije, lakse podijeliti sliku macke
[17:31] <vileni> nego tu slati preko irca
[17:31] <vileni> ali ja mislim da je to zato sto su ircerice nestale :)
[17:36] <kira> :-)
[17:36] <kira> anyway ty all
[17:36] <kira> instaliran System Load Indicator
[17:36] <kira> prva stvar koju sam instalirao na linux :D
[17:37] <kira> inace postoje li uobicajne stvari koje ljudi naprave ili instaliraju na ubuntu dok sam jos tu... ajte ekipa :D
[17:38] <kira> milsim da cu samo skinut crome i vlc, antivirus ocito ipak ne treba.
[18:04] <kira> nista, pozdrav i hvala svima, snaci cu se za ostatak, hvala ekipa
[18:04] <kira> zivili
[18:37] <Vlado9A3CY> hell o world
[20:00] <ipozgaj> a e
[20:01] <Vlado9A3CY> a?
[21:19] <vileni> Mmike: http://jebo.me/pas/7
[21:29] <vileni> i ovaj http://jebo.me/pas/2
[21:30] <SilverSpace> kako juzina dere
[21:30] <SilverSpace> drveni prozori pustaju na sve strane
[21:30] <SilverSpace> fucka ispod vrata
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[01:20] <Bashing-om> TJ-: IRT tachyondecay dmesg - line 277 " Calgary: Unable to locate Rio Grande table in EBDA - bailing!" .. I see this a lot . What is the significance ?
[01:31] <TJ-> It's an IOMMU in some Intel chipsets, used in IBM x series
[01:33] <Bashing-om> TJ-: K; then "bailing!" is nothing to be upset about .
[01:35] <TJ-> correct, it's built-in and is just looking for the tables that define the IOMMU. doesn't find them, so 'bails' out - doesn't stay in memory
[05:35] <daftykins> nn all! \o
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:28] <OerHeks> no bananas today!
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:30] * lotuspsychje prays for regular users
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> !info nmap
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/after-wireshark-2-0-nmap-7-free-network-scanner-is-finally-here-496455.shtml
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: !! good morning
[06:57] <cfhowlett> heyo lotuspsychje
[11:58] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[18:39] <EriC^^> daftykins: o/
[18:41] <daftykins> hello there, how're we all doing today? :)
[18:41] <OerHeks> are we ready for the weekend madness?
[18:42] <daftykins> never!
[18:42] <EriC^^> daftykins: good good, yourself?
[18:42] <EriC^^> let the madness begin!
[18:42] <daftykins> but we'll stumble through :) very friendly customer just then i see
[18:42] <daftykins> yes thanks, just picked up a nice new jacket today, so i'm all set for winter now :)
[18:43] <daftykins> still some time to wait to get the new LCD for that LG Nexus 5 phone i'm fixing up, i love fixing things :)
[18:43] <EriC^^> awesome
[18:43] <daftykins> i don't think you were here when i was linking that?
[18:43] <EriC^^> nope
[18:43] <EriC^^> do link
[18:43] <daftykins> http://techblo.gg/stuff/n5.jpeg
[18:44] <daftykins> a friend has had it for months at home sat doing nothing, with the hugely smashed screen
[18:44] <EriC^^> ouch
[18:44] <daftykins> http://techblo.gg/stuff/n5-2.jpg
[18:46] <EriC^^> wow it's pretty banged up
[18:46] <OerHeks> kept in backpocket on a bicycle?
[18:48] <daftykins> nah, he's an aircraft engineer, had to keep it on him when working alone in a hangar away from the company offices. For some reason he did a job lying down with it in his back pocket, so that caused a first smash to the glass upper left; but then he kept using it
[18:48] <daftykins> essentially he was skating around on top of it, full body weight >_<
[18:49] <daftykins> but £26 from Hong Kong on ebay for a new full screen, glass, digitiser and front case portion - a brief component swap and it should be back in business :D
[18:49] <daftykins> i've got a Nexus 4 so i may even switch to using it myself
[18:51] <EriC^^> it's very slim
[18:52] <EriC^^> how does it not have buttons on the front though? it's in the lcd itself?
[18:52] <EriC^^> like you slide to unlock then you get buttons at the bottom to navigate and stuff?
[18:53] <daftykins> yep, soft buttons as they call 'em now
[18:53] <daftykins> means that they can change icon to change purpose and be hidden during fullscreen content playback etc
[18:56] <EriC^^> oh, cool
[20:41] <Yaiyan> First thing I do after a new install is to open Firefox, download Chrome and replace Firefox with Chrome everywhere :l
[20:41] <daftykins> ok
[20:41] <Yaiyan> Once that's done I can start playing with Ubuntu-Chrome =)
[20:42] <daftykins> you were wholly wrong about the unit discussion by the way, i'd appreciate if you didn't tread all over my assistance in future
[20:42] <Yaiyan> ok
[20:52] <OerHeks> daf noelia does not understand thatwifi speed is something different than cable, 30 mb sounds not bad to me.. how do we find out it is not 30mbit ?
[20:55] <OerHeks> nvm ..
[20:56] <daftykins> i had hoped an answer on that would be forthcoming, but i think given it's this problematic realtek adapter and heavily out of date, we've got to wait for that first :)
[22:03] <daftykins> note to self, STOP trying to help 3 people at once
[22:03] <daftykins> only confusion can result :)
[22:09] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Uh Huh ^ .. problem such as that is compounded working a couple of forums ( while waiting ) . There are those times when I too stress myself out .
[22:10] <daftykins> oh the pace of forums must make it 10x worse too, having to re-read before progressing?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Yeah, not (RE-)reading has bitten me bad a time or 2 . And then tunnel vision is my worse fault .
[22:14] <Bashing-om> Looks like I am about caught up.. will try and lessen your load daftykins .
[22:14] <daftykins> thanks :) which user do you fancy taking?
[22:15] <daftykins> BottomNotch seems to have tried to install xfce and now gets 'low graphics mode' on boot
[22:15] <daftykins> then "ich_" i think has heavily modified an install already to try and get it working and left it useless
[22:17] <Bashing-om> I thouhgt you had both of those under control . Awaiting them to get the systems up-2-date.
[22:19] <daftykins> looks like one has a system that won't comply and the other one is offline when at a TTY so can't fix >_<
[22:22] <OerHeks> Some considder that as trolling, keeping volunteers buzzy by not telling all important info, as a merry-go-round
[22:22] <OerHeks> for days now ..
[22:25] <Bashing-om> Our crystal balls have cracks, we do not see clearly .
[22:26] <daftykins> :( always odd when they keep the key component to the end
[22:26] <OerHeks> All power i need, is to realise i don't have to give support allone ;-) and be able to walk away
[22:26] <OerHeks> but it surely is misty sometimes
[22:27] <daftykins> that guy with the killer wireless, i remember they weren't supported not long ago - wonder if it's changed yet
[22:27] <daftykins> i think the ath10k driver for a specific atheros model was still in development
[22:28] <daftykins> i'm gonna keep my hands off that one though :D
[22:35] <OerHeks> hmm i notice a lot of www.askubuntu-com.pw in google, not an official ubuntu site, is it?
[22:36] <daftykins> not seen that one
[23:47] <Ben64> $ whois www.askubuntu-com.pw
[23:47] <Ben64> DOMAIN NOT FOUND
[23:59] <daftykins> i don't understand why my chown command in channel didn't work for others but works fine for me
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[00:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: Really botched your name above
[00:00] <halexander9000> ABBA made some really good music.
[00:00] <Bashing-om> halexander9000: I am pleased that you are up and running .. faith in ubunbtu restored . Open source - 1 for all and all for one . Just help out as you can is the repayment .
[00:00] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: WOW! The official wiki/guide told me that I can run exiftool from the extracted folder, but when I do, the terminal gives me an error about not being installed. XD
[00:01] <k1l_> wait. you installed that from some website?
[00:01] <halexander9000> Bashing-om, Thanks again~ Calling it a night here. It's been a suspenseful adventure at 2 am, I'll tell you that. Have a nice one. You're a good man Bashing-om. I am forever in your debt. Take care.
[00:01] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: No. The website told me that I didn't even HAVE to install it. Just run it from the folder. Look at this. http://pastebin.com/iktDes8K
[00:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: This was our chat when we previously resolved issues, cut and refined, it looks like partially the same issue to me
[00:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: I did not save our work . so ' xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ' and let us descend into the dependency chain .
[00:02] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: did you read the errormessage? it got some "hidden" info in it :)
[00:02] <halexander9000> Goodnight all.
[00:03] <Bashing-om> halexander9000: Nighty nite ,
[00:03] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: and first thing to learn is: i dont load stuff from websites!
[00:03] <halexander9000> Bashing-om is the man!
[00:03] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: So I DO have to install it? Why is the official wiki LYING to me? :(
[00:03] <halexander9000> But no, really. Om means man in my native language of Romanian.
[00:03] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: ubuntu already ships a lot of software made already working with ubuntu. so please use the ubuntu repo first.
[00:03] <halexander9000> But he's -the- man.
[00:03] <halexander9000> Bye now~
[00:04] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I can't find it in the software center, but I can find it in synaptic. Is that okay to install from?
[00:04] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: the exiftools site cant know you are using ubuntu which ships that already
[00:04] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: they are all GUIs for the same basecommands: apt and dpgk. so yes
[00:04] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: just run "sudo apt-get install libimage-exiftool-perl perl-doc "
[00:05] <est31> are there any good docs for how to set up wayland for kde to test stuff?
[00:05] <est31> and AFAIK wayland didnt run on KDE did it?
[00:05] <skwishy> hey guys, can I get advice about how to troubleshoot two different laptops, both running 14.04, they freeze up when I "killall chrome"
[00:05] <est31> then at least KDE over XWayland
[00:05] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: but the reason why ubuntu is not clustered with viruses like windows is, that you dont load and install stuff from dubious websites but use the official ubuntu repo.
[00:05] <TJ-> skwishy: "strace killall chrome" and review what it is up to
[00:06] <the_count> Bashing-om: You're last comment was: 'the_count: Pay attention .. We already know " xserver-xorg-input-synaptics " / So how about ' sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ' . Reboot and let's see what works. '
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Yes, I know. Sorry. :( Oh, dang! I didn't include the perl-doc part! What do I do now?!
[00:06] <k1l_> est31: its the other way around. kde runs on wayland. or xserver (like it is today still)
[00:06] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I only ran "sudo apt-get install libimage-exiftool-perl" and without "perl-doc" after.
[00:06] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah, so again " sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid " and here we go once more . descending into the dependency chain .
[00:07] <k1l_> est31: and all desktops are heavy alpha state for wayland support. so you have a desktop and can move a window. if you are lucky.
[00:07] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: just run my command again. packages that are already installed are not intsalled again
[00:07] <est31> k1l_, I've heard fedora 24 wants to use wayland by default
[00:07] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Phew! :D
[00:07] <skwishy> TJ-: thanks, I'll play with that strace tonight
[00:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: I believe I said this yeterday, but there are unmet dependencies for this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13355609/
[00:07] <est31> and I want to make sure the application I develop runs smoothly on wayland.
[00:07] <k1l_> est31: in their rawhide which is just started its development. and not for kde but for gnome.
[00:08] <est31> bc I've heard from users that it _doesnt_ run smoothly
[00:08] <k1l_> est31: kde seems somewhat behind on that. see martin graesslins blog or g+ posts to get to know what kde is kapable in the latest plasma 5.5 alphas
[00:08] <mistel_> hey guys! :)
[00:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yepper, and we start that process to find and resolve the denpency issue . I will be back .
[00:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok Sir
[00:09] <k1l_> est31: wayland doesnt run smoothly :) but you can setup a wayland + weston. weston is the standard implementation as desktop on the wayland protocol
[00:09] <mistel_> can someone help me with a problem involving ubuntu or generally linux?
[00:10] <k1l_> mistel_: ask here for ubuntu or ##linux for other distros or generel linux comparisons
[00:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: let's see if I have the direction right, do : sudo apt-get install xorg-input-abi-21 xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid ' . See what the package manager advises .
[00:11] <est31> I don't want to get it run on native wayland, not yet. It were already great if it worked on XWayland.
[00:11] <mistel_> my problem is in ubuntu i just cant conect to my wifi, it shows up and the password is 100% but it tells me that my password is incorrect / on windows it works perfectly fine thats why im bound to it at the moment :/ thxfor help :)
[00:12] <est31> Any way to convince KDE to use XWayland instead of an X server?
[00:12] <the_count> BAshing-om: I believe we install the packages it gave as a result, but not entirely sure, E: Package 'xorg-input-abi-21' has no installation candidate
[00:12] <the_count> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13355700/
[00:13] <k1l_> est31: xwayland is just a wrapper for running xserver inside wayland for legacy reasons.
[00:13] <TJ-> the_count: "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid "
[00:13] <k1l_> est31: so either wayland or xserver. but not both at one time. for the whole desktop.
[00:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; -apt-cache search xorg-input-abi-21- shows it to be a compenent of xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid . Did it install ?
[00:14] <est31> k1l_, I've thought that legacy applications run on wayland using xwayland?
[00:14] <est31> similar to xephyr?
[00:14] <orfeo> Hi folks!
[00:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: One sec
[00:15] <k1l_> est31: so in the long run no one wants xwayland to be used. so better going native wayland on the new toolkits those wayland desktops support.
[00:15] <orfeo> When I try to run this command : sudo a2ensite sandbox.com.conf I get this error message : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9dd79a72ce914c86139e could someone help me understand what could be possible happening here please?
[00:15] <truexfan81> rofl this is not off to a good start
[00:15] <k1l_> est31: yes. but xwayland is a xserver put in a window on wayland. its like a wine window.
[00:16] <truexfan81> i downloaded the 15.10 32bit iso
[00:16] <truexfan81> did a clean install in a new vm
[00:16] <truexfan81> install finishes, i click the restart button...kernel panic
[00:16] <wxl> orfeo: it's telling you that you don't have LANGUAGE or LC_ALL set
[00:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: It installed
[00:17] <est31> awww
[00:17] <orfeo> wxl: yes? thats all?
[00:17] <est31> why does the "Xwayland" command start with a major letter
[00:17] <est31> ?
[00:17] <wxl> orfeo: well, those seem to be warnings. then it complains that the site doesn't exist, so there may eb something wrong with your conf file
[00:17] <est31> it joins the damn NetworkManager club... :(
[00:17] <TJ-> est31: the X server has always been X
[00:18] <k1l_> est31: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/xserver.html but i would honestly go for the wayland path
[00:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: Reboot, and see if the touchpad functions now .
[00:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Rebooting now.
[00:20] <est31> k1l_, well, problem is we use irrlicht, and it seems irrlicht devs dont want to use wayland. so it means nothing less than abandoning the largest dependency of the 100k lines codebase. in the long term, perhaps yes, but in the short term, it should at least work with xwayland
[00:20] <wxl> orfeo: you should make sure there's a <VirtualHost> block with the same name, if i'm understanding the man page correctly
[00:22] <truexfan81> yeah this not going well, i think i'll stick with the lts versions lol
[00:23] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Down with fancy new stuff! :D
[00:23] <truexfan81> VictoriaXOXO: it was making it a pain in the rear just to install vmware-tools
[00:24] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Tell me if the LTS version works. I want to know for future use.
[00:24] <orfeo> wxl: I am following a tutorial which doesn't have it, and it already worked on a server, now on my localhost it doesn't.
[00:25] <truexfan81> VictoriaXOXO: the current lts version works nicely in vmware player
[00:26] <truexfan81> VictoriaXOXO: i have one setup, i use it to do faster compiles of mpv, hexchat for my netbook
[00:26] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Awesome.
[00:27] <orfeo> wxl: perhaps I show you the .conf file
[00:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think it may have broke...
[00:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think it may have broke...
[00:32] <popsch> what is the latest version of evince that is available in 15.10, please? packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down.
[00:32] <TJ-> !info evince | popsch
[00:34] <tachyondecay> I have a new Dell XPS 15 with an Nvidia GTX960M. I need to use nomodeset to boot the 15.10 live USB (it booted once without this, strangely, but hasn't booted properly without since then). However, when I do this my touchpad is disabled and display scaling doesn't work, so everything is incredibly hard to read at UHD resolution.
[00:34] <tachyondecay> Can I somehow install drivers to get this working before I try running the Ubuntu installer? (I still have to do some partitioning, and I'd rather not squint at the screen.)
[00:35] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Okay, so exiftool works perfectly. But how do I automate the process? It would be nice with a right-click entry. Hmm.
[00:35] <popsch> TJ-: thanks!
[00:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Something broke for sure, I m in a recoverey terminal right now
[00:37] <nlackbigger> what is the right setup to not get a virus in ubuntu?
[00:37] <dimitry7> nlackbigger, virus don't exist in linux systems
[00:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: SOS
[00:38] <Quaker_56kbps> it s weird i have my dns on windows 7 that change sometime, is it somebody who hack me ?
[00:40] <the_count> Bashing-om: Can't stick around though, i'll have to catch you later
[00:40] <Bashing-om> the_count: What returns ' sudo apt-get 0f install ; sudo dpkf -C ' See what the package manger releates .
[00:41] <Bashing-om> 'sudo apt-get -f install ' **
[00:41] <allizom> Quaker_56kbps: how is that Ubuntu support related?
[00:41] <Quaker_56kbps> i m lost allizom
[00:41] <allizom> Bashing-om: she left
[00:42] <Bashing-om> allizom: Thanks, I just toooo slow .
[00:43] <allizom> Quaker_56kbps: that doesn't answer my question. Try ##windows
[00:45] <tachyondecay> Hmm
[00:45] <tachyondecay> Live USB doesn't see my hard disk at all o_O
[00:47] <Quaker_56kbps> allizom, i use android smartphone to connect. Maybe somebody can help me to set the signal strenght ?
[00:47] <nlackbigger> hello
[00:48] <allizom> Quaker_56kbps: what is your end goal? Is it Ubuntu related? If not, you're better off joing other channels
[00:49] <allizom> *joining
[00:50] <est31> so, I got wayland + weston running
[00:50] <est31> I can start a shell, everything is fine
[00:50] <est31> now I only have to find out how to start Xwayland so that it acts as a wrapper around a program
[00:50] <est31> you know, it opens a window
[00:51] <est31> which then acts like a window under x
[00:53] <Quaker_56kbps> all right allizom thx for the info
[00:54] <est31> just first of all : how do I disable this auto-restart loop for X?
[00:54] <est31> every time I do killall Xorg in a root shell, it starts again
[00:54] <Quaker_56kbps> start x ?
[00:54] <est31> (or ctrl alt backspace fwiw)
[00:54] <est31> Quaker_56kbps, not start it, I want to kill it
[00:54] <est31> so that it doesnt restart anymore
[00:55] <est31> so that I can start Xwayland
[00:55] <creyc> does it make much sense to use LVM for a small (10GB) virtual machine?
[00:55] <Quaker_56kbps> you can do that
[00:55] <est31> and how?
[00:55] <Quaker_56kbps> config i did it 12 years ago :) cant remember but google x config
[00:56] <TJ-> est31: disable it using the init system's control tool
[00:57] <est31> TJ-, so, which *.conf file to edit?
[00:58] <est31> are all such "init system" stuff in /etc/systemd?
[00:59] * est31 runs grep -rIn "startx" /etc and hopes the best
[00:59] <teethxy> est31: that's all. The best
[00:59] <est31> btw got this PM
you commie terrorist liberal people hating bastard
[00:59] <TJ-> est31: identify which init system first; Systemd: "systemctl disable <service>" Upstart: "echo manual > /etc/init/<service>.override"
[00:59] <est31> by [email protected]
[01:00] <Quaker_56kbps> test
[01:00] <Quaker_56kbps> can you read this ?
[01:00] <TJ-> est31: Sysv-init: "update-rc.d <service> disable"
[01:00] <TJ-> Quaker_56kbps: Yes
[01:00] <est31> TJ-, I am systemd
[01:01] <tachyondecay> OK, it looks like if I want to install Ubuntu I'm going to have to switch my SSD's SATA mode, breaking Windows in the process -_-
[01:01] <Abe> Quaker_56kbps: yes
[01:01] <TJ-> tachyondecay: in what way? Linux supports AHCI if that is what you're referring to
[01:02] <Quaker_56kbps> thx Abe TJ-
[01:02] <tachyondecay> TJ-: I can't see my SSD in the Live USB
[01:03] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Apparently my SATA mode is set to RAID
[01:03] <TJ-> tachyondecay: can you "dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[01:04] <TJ-> tachyondecay: (from the Live environment)
[01:07] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What are these 2 files doing in "/"? https://i.imgur.com/YkI5a75.png
[01:07] <truexfan81> ok so i just googled the name of the next lts
[01:08] <truexfan81> Xenial Xerus == Hospitable Squirrel
[01:08] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: they are for the kernel
[01:08] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Nothing malicious?
[01:08] <somsip> VictoriaXOXO: http://askubuntu.com/questions/232262/whats-the-point-of-having-vmlinuz-and-initrd-img
[01:09] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: no.
[01:09] <tachyondecay> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13356802/
[01:09] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: PHEW! :D somsip: Okay, good. :P
[01:10] <tachyondecay> TJ-: My end goal at the moment isn't so much installing Ubuntu as partitioning (shrinking the Windows system partition and setting up a shared data partition) so I can install stuff in Windows and then install Ubuntu later when I have more time.
[01:12] <millerti> Can anyone help me figure out an rsync problem? I copied over MOST of a 4.3TB dataset, but something went wrong, and I want to use rsync to check it. I'm messing up the rsync command somehow, because it's copying files I know for a fact are already there. Here's the command: rsync --size-only -Puave ssh millerti@c6220-12:/data/millerti/aug2015/circuits_projects/cvsl/src/cvsl_circuits/output output
[01:13] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Is it possible to enable ctrl+v in terminal?
[01:13] <est31> hmm why isnt /usr/lib/weston added to PATH ?
[01:13] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: press shift too
[01:13] <est31> VictoriaXOXO, alternatively use the middle mouse button
[01:13] <daftykins> or shift+insert, or right click (sometimes)
[01:14] <fallencl0ud> hello! I was looking for the Disks application on xubuntu, but it appears only vanilla ubuntu has the disks application. what application can I use to make an ISO of an SSD?
[01:14] <est31> eww weston doesnt support middle mouse button
[01:14] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: est31: daftykins: Hmm. I guess middle mouse button is easiest.
[01:14] <daftykins> results are a fine metric
[01:15] <daftykins> fallencl0ud: you wouldn't make an ISO, but you could make an image file with clonezilla
[01:15] <TJ-> tachyondecay: that looks like a controller issue; the AHCI RAID ports show up, and there's one port ata2 but no device is found on it
[01:15] <est31> seems there is nothing like a clipboard for weston :/
[01:16] <tachyondecay> I found a forum post by someone with the same computer as me saying they had to switch to AHCI mode explicitly in the BIOS settings
[01:16] <TJ-> tachyondecay: it's possible that is caused by an ACPI bug in the firmware
[01:16] <est31> well, I hope it will work later on
[01:16] <TJ-> tachyondecay: "[ 5.615405] ahci 0000:00:17.0: AHCI 0001.0301 32 slots 1 ports 6 Gbps 0x2 impl RAID mode"
[01:17] <TJ-> tachyondecay: "[ 5.629819] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m524288@0xdd100000 port 0xdd100180 irq 125"
[01:17] <non> hello
[01:18] <TJ-> tachyondecay: "[ 5.950150] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 4 SControl 300)" ... and that's it, the link never comes up, which is why I suspect an ACPI firmware issue
[01:18] <tachyondecay> What would you recommend?
[01:21] <tachyondecay> If I ultimately have to do a format/reinstall of Windows to install Ubuntu, I will, but then I might as well give up on custom partitioning for now and just proceed with setting up Windows
[01:23] <creyc> im having a hard time trying to shrink the size of a physical volume.
[01:23] <creyc> sudo pvresize --setphysicalvolumesize 12G /dev/vda5
[01:23] <creyc> 0 physical volume(s) resized / 1 physical volume(s) not resized
[01:23] <creyc> oops missed first line, forgot escape char: /dev/vda5: cannot resize to 3071 extents as later ones are allocated.
[01:25] <TJ-> tachyondecay: reading the Intel RST Linux docs, it seems you need to "modprobe intel-rst" module which sits between the AHCI driver and the hardware controller
[01:25] <creyc> my root LV is 10G plus a 1G swap, so it shouldn't be a size issue..
[01:25] <TJ-> tachyondecay: it is possible that module isn't installed in the Live image, or not loaded by default
[01:26] <tachyondecay> "sudo modprobe intel-rst" gives no output
[01:28] <est31> yeah its running great now
[01:28] <est31> (weston and xwayland)
[01:29] <est31> just /usr/share/doc/weston/examples/weston.ini is a bit ... well, not exemplaratory
[01:29] <est31> it uses gnome icons,
[01:29] <est31> and it even seems to rely on a path which seems to come from a local configuration
[01:31] <TJ-> tachyondecay: that means it worked. check it is loaded with "lsmod | grep rst"
[01:32] <TJ-> tachyondecay: you'll possibly need to unload/load the AHCI driver, but first check if the device has been recognised now with "dmseg | tail -n 50" see if that intel-rst module has reported anything useful. pastebin the output if there is anything useful
[01:35] <eyad> hiiiiiiiii
[01:36] <tachyondecay> TJ-: lsmod output gives "intel_rst 16384 0"
[01:36] <tachyondecay> dmesg output is just a bunch of i2c_designware timeouts
[01:39] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Ugh. My USB stick called "USB" (/dev/sdb1) is read-only. How do I change that? :(
[01:40] <TJ-> tachyondecay: OK, then, try "sudo modprobe -r ahci && sudo modprobe ahci" ... if that doesn't report errors that ought to reload the AHCI, which should then be able to search for devices via the intel-rst
[01:41] <tachyondecay> No output from either of those
[01:42] <TJ-> tachyondecay: that's expected if they work correctly. most Linux tools only get verbal if something goes wrong
[01:42] <TJ-> tachyondecay: check dmesg again: "dmesg | tail"
[01:42] <tachyondecay> More i2c_designware timeouts
[01:42] <TJ-> tachyondecay: you should see at least entries for the ahci module re-discovering the chipset
[01:43] <tachyondecay> I think those are related to my touchscreen
[01:43] <tachyondecay> OK, I reran the modprobe commands and then checked dmesg immediately
[01:43] <tachyondecay> And I still get "SATA link down"
[01:44] <TJ-> tachyondecay: that's a pain. I had hoped having intel-rst in-place would help. Obviously something more is required, or else it is due to a firmware bug. All those complaints on the Dell forums seem to suggest it is a bug
[01:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Are you around now?
[01:46] <TJ-> tachyondecay: "modinfo -F alias intel-rs" shows "acpi*:INT3392:*" which indicates specific ACPI table support is required, and the firmware isn't revealing that. That may mean it is detecting Linux is the OS and not revealing the same facilities as it does to Windows.
[01:47] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Does this mean I should wait for a bit to see if Dell releases a BIOS update that could fix the issue?
[01:47] <the_count> TJ-: Seems as if Bashing-om isn't around, that command faild to stick so now I am in a recovery prompt, how shall I install it now?
[01:48] <the_count> TJ-: To install xorg for vivid if you remember
[01:48] <TJ-> tachyondecay: see the kernel patches that introduced support for RST for an explanation: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/2/544
[01:50] <TJ-> !ltse | the_count this should ensure you do the *entire* job, rather than just 1 package
[01:51] <the_count> TJ-: I fail to understand, and I don't really have access to another device either
[01:53] <tachyondecay> TJ-: I appreciate all the help. Given these issues, is it worth trying to use GParted to partition my drive, or is GParted going to run into similar problems?
[01:53] <TJ-> tachyondecay: I'm not entirely sure, reading up on the various bits has got me confused!
[01:53] <tachyondecay> (I mean from a dedicated gparted live USB, which I haven't burned yet but could if it's worth trying)
[01:53] <tachyondecay> Haha, sorry :P
[01:54] <tachyondecay> I'd just rather not install a bunch of stuff in Windows until I've repartitioned, if possible, and Windows Disk Management does not like to shrink the volume past a certain point. I know gparted is a bit better at that.
[01:55] <the_count> TJ-: To clarify, I cannot look at the link there at the moment and am uncertain on how to fix this issue as it now lies.
[01:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: Good advise from TJ- to make sure all of HWE is installed to match the 3.19 kernel in trusty. what returns ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-lts-vivid ' ?
[01:58] <the_count> bashing-om: Could you refresh me on how to use screen at the moment, because I am in a recoverey terminal right now and will have to exit and rejoin in irssi otherwise
[01:58] <TJ-> tachyondecay: according to the Ubuntu hardware certfication that chipset is certified, so it seems to point even more strongly to a firmware bug. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/8086:282a/
[01:58] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sorry, never used the utility . Can not advise .
[01:58] <daftykins> the_count: don't you have another TTY...
[01:59] <the_count> bashing-om: I thought you had before, and I know next to nothing about using the root terminal on it's own
[01:59] <the_count> daftykins :Not exactly sure
[02:00] <tachyondecay> TJ-: That's good though, right, because a firmware bug can theoretically be fixed?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> the_count: The root terminal on "recovery" is just a terminal . just be careful what you do . Presntly in this terminal all we want to lnow is if 'vivid's xserver is inastalled .
[02:01] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok.. Exiting irssi
[02:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13357459/ -- Looks as if it... *trailing off*, Long story short, not sure
[02:04] <TJ-> tachyondecay: this seems to give some good detail. It's "Intel SRT" we need to look at, not "Intel RST" - that's the goose-chase I was off on due to a bad search hit!
[02:04] <tachyondecay> So sudo modprobe intel-srt?
[02:05] <TJ-> tachyondecay: read the response by the user 'Forge' in particular
[02:05] <TJ-> tachyondecay: unfortunately, no. SRT is something entirely different
[02:06] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch ! Not installed ! OK ' sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid linux-image-generic-lts-vivid ' .
[02:06] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Did you mean to link to something?
[02:06] <TJ-> tachyondecay: :P ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/308481/howto-run-ubuntu-with-uefi-and-intel-smart-response-technology
[02:06] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, what exactly are the implications of this, and I suppose this command will work from this recovery terminal?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> the_count: will have to remount the root partition: ' mount -o remount,rw / (Note there is no space after the comma.) . With the 3.19 kernel installed ( uname -r says so ) . should have the supporting Xserver structure also installed .
[02:09] <tachyondecay> TJ-: OK. For what it's worth, I don't care if SRT is enabled in the end.
[02:10] <tachyondecay> That sounds like gparted should be able to see my disk (I'm burning a live USB in Windows now)
[02:10] <the_count> Bashing-om: Have to eat supper again, be back in a bit
[02:12] <TJ-> tachyondecay: also, this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11157021
[02:12] <TJ-> tachyondecay: apparently when SRT is enabled in firmware setup, the controller hides the SSD being used as the caching device to prevent it being accidentally written to by the OS
[02:13] <TJ-> tachyondecay: and in Windows, special drivers handle the RAID/caching operations, and those aren't avaiable to Linux. On Linux we have similar technologies, like bcache (block cache).
[02:13] <tachyondecay> Hahaha
[02:14] <tachyondecay> I looked for a way to turn off SRT in BIOS setup and couldn't find it, so I assumed it wasn't on -_-
[02:14] <tachyondecay> I must have missed it
[02:14] <TJ-> tachyondecay: so that explains - finally - why the kernel cannot see the device
[02:14] <tachyondecay> Let me look in the BIOS again and see if I can find something
[02:15] <TJ-> tachyondecay: maybe it has some weird name or euphamism as a title, like "super duper wooshing drive accelerator" :)
[02:18] <tachyondecay> Cannot see anything, searching now. I must be missing it
[02:19] <tachyondecay> Oh, looks like I need to use a program pre-installed in Windows
[02:21] <TJ-> tachyondecay: I think you can assume SRT is Windows-only, and not usable for dual-boot. It seems that the controller being in 'RAID' mode automatically infers 'SRT' mode and therefore the SSD is invisible. So, your ownly solution may be to only operate the device in AHCI mode, not RAID, and have Windows use that and forgo SRT
[02:21] <tachyondecay> That's what I figured
[02:21] <tachyondecay> Wait, so you mean I _will_ have to switch the mode in the BIOS?
[02:22] <tachyondecay> I don't care about SRT at all; but I'm just trying to avoid having to reinstall Windows if I don't have to :P
[02:22] <TJ-> tachyondecay: it appears that way, if the firmware is treating RAID==SRT mode, and there is no separate control of SRT
[02:23] <TJ-> tachyondecay: it looks like, from that answer by 'Forge', that in Windows you can disable SRT for Windows itself. So you should maybe try that
[02:23] <tachyondecay> Yeah, I don't see it in this rapid storage technology program on Windows
[02:23] <tachyondecay> Darn
[02:23] <tachyondecay> Well at least I created a recovery disk already
[02:24] <tachyondecay> I will go ahead and setup stuff on the system partition then, since I'm going to be wiping it all out anyway.
[02:24] <tachyondecay> I appreciate all your help with this, TJ-!
[02:24] <ThetaOrionis> Hey guys, I intend to keep a portable Linux installation on a pen drive, for secure browsing and related stuff. I tried Xubuntu, but it's somewhat slow. So, should I switch to Puppy slacko, or is there any lightweight *buntu that works?
[02:25] <TJ-> ThetaOrionis: probably the issue is the USB device being slow
[02:25] <k1l> !lubuntu | ThetaOrionis
[02:26] <TJ-> ThetaOrionis: you might want to create a persistent Live image, where it mostly runs from RAM but can save changes to a writeable overlay file-system
[02:26] <ThetaOrionis> TJ-: I see...
[02:26] <OerHeks> it might be slow, but it is secure. and workable.
[02:26] <k1l> ThetaOrionis: but maybe the usb and/or the pc was just slow. keep in mind that all system needs to sit in ram now so there is not much left for the programs
[02:26] <ThetaOrionis> TJ-: But, won't a persistent live image be hard to upgrade? I mean, kernel upgrades, etc.
[02:27] <ThetaOrionis> Right, that makes sense, thanks k1l. I guess I need to try once on a different pendrive
[02:27] <TJ-> ThetaOrionis: yes, that is part of the downside, but your current issue is likely the read/write speed over the USB. disabling file-system metadata timestamp updates with noatime etc might help
[02:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: Back, so, which shall I do first? mount or install?
[02:27] <k1l> but dont expect a rocket :)
[02:27] <Bashing-om> tachyondecay: I do not know, but post # 6 of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2020155 might apply to your situation .
[02:27] <LambdaComplex> ThetaOrionis: I'd try Puppy
[02:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: Did you re-install the HWE support ?
[02:28] <ThetaOrionis> TJ-: True. :D Thanks for the tips, I'll definitely try them
[02:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: No... I was copying it down on paper so I know what to type
[02:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid linux-image-generic-lts-vivid '
[02:29] <TJ-> ThetaOrionis: also, don't have a 'swap' partition
[02:29] <ThetaOrionis> LambdaComplex: I tried puppy once, but didn't stick to it. Guess I'll have to give it a shot.
[02:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: Reinstalling HWE Support now
[02:30] <ricao> hi, i'm running a ubuntu 14.4, but i'd like to migrateit to 15.10, i'd like to know if mono is stable in this version
[02:30] <kilde> I cant get my scanner working. Brother MFC-6490CW on Ubuntu 14.04. Help.
[02:30] <tachyondecay> Bashing-om: Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't have an "Accelerate" tab on my rapid storage technology manager in Windows. So I don't seem to be able to disable SRT
[02:31] <ThetaOrionis> TJ-: You mean, swap as on the pendrive itself?
[02:32] <Bashing-om> tachyondecay: :( was but a thought . sorry .
[02:32] <tachyondecay> (I think the 11 GB "recovery" partition I deleted might have been the SRT cache! Oops.)
[02:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: It was unable to find libgll-mesa-glx-lts-vivid
[02:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: checking .
[02:34] <creyc> besides fdisk and parted, are there any other common tools that might tell me a bit more about an .img file i have?
[02:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: If somehow I copied it down wrong, you're going to have to use the phonetic alphabet to type, I have near 4K display on my laptop here and I may have in distinguished some of the l's as in Lima
[02:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well that last message didn't make sense, I suspect I misread the l's or 1's or i's or something in there possibly, phonetic alphabet for those
[02:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Did I scare you off?
[02:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah, as " sysop@1404mini:~$ apt-cache search libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid >> libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid - free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX runtime " it is there ! - libg(lima)(one)-mesa-g(lima)x-(long)(term)(support)-vivid .
[02:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, that helps immensly.
[02:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, trying now.....
[02:46] <trollin4tehLuLz> whats going on guys
[02:47] <trollin4tehLuLz> anything going on .. ?
[02:47] <latrodectus> !support
[02:48] <Hiz_> ID
[02:48] <Bashing-om> creyc: how about just the 'file' command ? see " man file " .
[02:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, graphical display works now... Using it now... What's next on our list... One item to consider, Mouse is extremely slow
[02:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: " dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid " is it now installed ?
[02:50] <latrodectus> just got a gparted error; *** Error in `/usr/sbin/gpartedbin': malloc(): smallbin double linked list corrupted: 0x088587b8 *** Aborted (core dumped),
[02:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: I assume ii before means yes?
[02:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13358123/
[02:53] <creyc> thank you Bashing-om
[02:54] <creyc> i always overlook the simplest solutions
[02:56] <Bashing-om> creyc: Hey, 2 heads are better than one :) .
[02:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: Can you access the touchpad settings under System Settings > Input Devices > Touchpad ?
[02:57] <the_count> Bashing-om: Yes
[02:58] <Bashing-om> the_count: All I can suggest at this point is to reconfigure from the set up utility . Maybe ?
[02:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: That's not going to work I don't think
[02:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: It still does not load a driver for synclient, and Ubuntu is a bit out of the normal... Not sure exactly what to do to fix that
[02:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: I do not then comprehend what the new situation is then . HWE is installed, the driver is installed and the utility is accesssable . what gives ?
[03:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: I also completely fail to understand
[03:02] <kilde> I cant get my scanner working. Brother MFC-6490CW on Ubuntu 14.04. Help.
[03:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: How about reinstalling synclient, could we do that?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: " if you enabled
[03:02] <Bashing-om> SHMConfig "on" in your XOrg/XFree86 configuration.
[03:03] <wafflejock> kilde: haven't used a brother scanner but xsane has been pretty good in my experience with HP and Cannon scanners in linux, what have you tried so far?
[03:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: from http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/synclient.1.html . I assime ine has to make the appropriate entries in xorg.conf ???
[03:04] <SadTuesday> helo
[03:05] <daftykins> hi
[03:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: Something is majorly messed up with ubuntu, firefox looks completely different almost as if it were being run from wine or something of those sorts, as well as numerous other odd things
[03:05] <daftykins> run from wine o0
[03:05] <tomhardy> everytime i tried to play a file from my ExFat usb disk on ubuntu 15.04, the entire system crashes and it logs me out
[03:06] <the_count> daftykins: When one has no other way of explanation, that is hwat happens... :D
[03:07] <tomhardy> any idea why that is?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; let's look and see what the package manager has to say ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt-upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install sudo dpkg -C ' .
[03:09] <kilde> wafflejock: I installed the driver per instructions from Brother, I have simple scan and Xsane, they do not recognize it. Im sure its something simple but I just cant figure it out.
[03:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Bashing-om: Nothing out of the ordinary, may I autoremove the packages listed?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: Normally that is the better thing .. but with a messed up system I would caution using 'autoremove" at this time .
[03:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: Would the best course of action be to reboot at this point?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Fid the command 'dpkg -C' directly return to prompt ?
[03:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: No
[03:12] <Bashing-om> Fid/did*
[03:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: I caught it
[03:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: Best show then ' sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' . Lets see the errors .
[03:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: There are no errors...
[03:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: As well as the scaling being very strange
[03:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: Looking at the LTS enablement stack, I tried the command you gave me again, and there was one other piece which you must have missed
[03:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is it safe to install, The following NEW packages will be installed: libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid
[03:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: Maybe then we have a corrupted xorg.conf file ( or none at all ??) . show ' sudo lshw -C display ; cat /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' . Maybe I can fumble something out .
[03:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch .. do not think you have the wayland interface on that system .
[03:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, is it something I need? Or? What?
[03:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: No, you do not need " libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid " . Installing that would sure be a disaster .
[03:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: Why is this?
[03:21] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look up what the wayland interface is .. you do not want to bring all those dependenciews in .. wayland is experimental at best .
[03:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was reading about it, read this, 'The Wayland server in the diagram is Weston with the DRM backend.' Weston happens to be my name
[03:23] <Magic815> Hey all. So I'm extremely new to Ubuntu and I'm trying out some things with Ubuntu Server set inside Virtualbox. My first step is to try and get ZFS started. Are there any good articles/tutorials I could read up on to help me through it?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> !zfs | Magic815
[03:25] <Bashing-om> the_count: So, Weston is not X .. do not mix .
[03:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, got it
[03:26] <k1l> the_count: weston is the standard compositor implementation. its like the prototype compositor to show what wayland can do.
[03:26] <Xytron> hello
[03:26] <the_count> k1l: I see.
[03:26] <Gnomethrower> hi, need some help with php5-fpm. When I change settings for opcache in php.ini the changes don't seem to apply despite lots of restarts, stops and reloads
[03:27] <Gnomethrower> i confirmed with phpinfo(); that they're not being applied
[03:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: The xorg.conf file does not exist, not sure that it ever has, I have always edited xorg.conf.d, maybe that is par of the issue
[03:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Here is xorg.conf.d: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13358711/
[03:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: All I have looked ar says /etc/X11/xorg.conf . Not to say that xorg.conf.d would not be equally effective . depends on the graphics card and driver . why I wanted to see the out put of disolay and xorg,conf .
[03:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: that is all I have seen also
[03:35] <daftykins> Magic815: i'd say ZFS would be supported better on a distro where it's... supported
[03:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: Intel graphics . xorg.conf is not normally used . I see no fault with the current synaptic config file . let's reboot the box and see what the result is .
[03:36] <daftykins> Magic815: bear in mind #ubuntu-server exists, however
[03:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[03:37] <Magic815> daftykins - oh, so ZFS isn't supported by Ubuntu? at least in the official sense?
[03:38] <Magic815> i got into Ubuntu because i want to soon create a ZFS NAS. all initial signs pointed to FreeNAS, but I was told by some people that I could just make a server off Ubuntu
[03:38] <Magic815> but if it's not really a recommended config, i guess i could go back to the drawing board
[03:38] <daftykins> Magic815: i always read that other distros were where it was deemed best
[03:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: Nothing changed, do you think it is fixable? Or should I see about reinstalling
[03:39] <Invisabit> Howdy all
[03:40] <daftykins> lo
[03:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: It is always fixable, but many times (re-)install is quicker .
[03:41] <Invisabit> Can anyone help with a steam crash I am getting?
[03:41] <daftykins> depends what the error is, #ubuntu-steam exists also
[03:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well, I think I would learn more through fixing it
[03:41] <Invisabit> Ah okay, thanks! Ill try there first.
[03:42] <Magic815> daftykins - ah, so meaning another linux distro besides ubuntu or ubuntu server?
[03:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: Do you have a policy against remote desktop for help? Or is this what we do?
[03:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: Here both then are in the learning mode . Let's look at the status of X ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .
[03:43] <daftykins> Magic815: yep; i'd read up on ZFS to be sure. your pick really depends on the intended disk config, i have one with a hardware RAID controller card and ubuntu server doing just fine
[03:44] <Invisabit> No luck in ubuntu-steam :( Here is my issue: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/4145
[03:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13358930/
[03:44] <Magic815> ok, i might go check out the #ubuntu-server channel then. thanks!
[03:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: The policy is keep all in this channel ' .. I am also very active elsewhere that I attend to .
[03:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Not sure what you mean by the second statement
[03:46] <MrCeeIII> i have .wmv files that wont produce any sound... anyone... anyone??? i have VLC installed and also tried mplayer...
[03:46] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: pretty sure you were here before and the suggestion then was to provide a mediainfo output
[03:46] <MrCeeIII> whats that
[03:47] <daftykins> "mediainfo" is a program you can run to spit out info on your files.
[03:47] <MrCeeIII> mediainfo output?
[03:47] <Invisabit> Anyone have any ideas?
[03:47] <daftykins> Invisabit: not really. you could try renaming ~/.steam to ~/.steamold and try running it afresh
[03:47] <daftykins> Invisabit: what's your disk configuration, any SSDs? purely mechanical?
[03:48] <Invisabit> Just 1 mechanical 1tb HDD
[03:48] <Corvus`> hey, guys, do you have any idea what will happen if I do dist-upgrade on utopic?
[03:48] <daftykins> !eolupgrade | Corvus` just do it right
[03:48] <daftykins> Invisabit: old or new?
[03:48] <MrCeeIII> it says that program is not installed
[03:48] <Invisabit> About a year old
[03:49] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: indeed, you often can't run something when it's not installed
[03:49] <the_count> :D
[03:49] <Corvus`> daftykins: I mean, if it dies, whatever, it's a VPS, I'll just reinstall it.
[03:49] <daftykins> Invisabit: i'd try the above, then
[03:49] <Corvus`> daftykins: the question is, what are the chances?
[03:49] <daftykins> Corvus`: oh? just create a new one side by side, transfer data -> delete the old.
[03:49] <Invisabit> resetting steam? Ill give it a shot, but it did this before I did the fresh install as well
[03:49] <daftykins> Corvus`: a VPS on non-LTS however... sounds like a mistake to me
[03:50] <Corvus`> daftykins: Not willing to pay for another one. I'd rather reinstall it on weekend.
[03:50] <MrCeeIII> installing no
[03:50] <MrCeeIII> w
[03:50] <daftykins> Invisabit: oh? hmm, possibly your system isn't too stable then, hard to say.
[03:50] <daftykins> Corvus`: your provider doesn't sound too good then
[03:50] <Invisabit> On 14.04.3? Hm... I didn't think stability would be an issue
[03:51] <zykotick9> MrCeeIII: <sidenote> as a _long_ time player user myself, this is hard to say, but if you are using trusty+ i'd strongly suggest switching to mpv (unless you happen to use fb for output, as mpv dropped framebuffer support)
[03:51] <L0> daftykins: is there LTS for 15 already?
[03:51] <zykotick9> s/player user/mplayer user/
[03:51] <MrCeeIII> there old video files from a jvc recorder...
[03:51] <Corvus`> daftykins: provider is fine. I can install new one from management panel. But then I'd have to backup/restore configuration, you know the drill.
[03:51] <daftykins> L0: no it's only every 2 years, 16.04 is next LTS
[03:52] <daftykins> Corvus`: ideal opportunity to go back to LTS then \o/
[03:52] <Corvus`> daftykins: yeah, but going back seems backwards to me.
[03:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: Anyways, what means that file?
[03:52] <Corvus`> I'd rather go forward.
[03:52] <daftykins> Corvus`: no, using non-LTS on a VPS is what's backwards :)
[03:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: To put it as you would
[03:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: My 2nd statement just a reminder that you are not the only one I attend with. I am active elsewhere also . Pur situation : X is happy and has no problem with synaptics " 4.071] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/mouse0) " . We will have to look elsewhere for any problem.
[03:53] <MrCeeIII> ok i got the media info stuff.. shall i post it here
[03:53] <Corvus`> daftykins: Probably, but I'm not an ubuntu user, and at the moment I just picked the newest version they had.
[03:53] <daftykins> alright, but i'm telling you what's sensible :)
[03:53] <Corvus`> daftykins: you say next LTS release is 16.04?
[03:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: Sure, I know that...
[03:54] <MrCeeIII> General Complete name : MOV012.wmv Format : Windows Media File size : 14.9 MiB Duration : 18s 240ms Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 6 838 Kbps Maximum Overall bit rate : 8 288 Kbps Encoded date : UTC 2010-01
[03:54] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: don't ever paste to IRC.
[03:54] <daftykins> !paste
[03:54] <the_count> Bashing-om: How about resolving the incorrect display issues? Would reinstalling unity help, or...?
[03:54] <MrCeeIII> okok
[03:54] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: needs to be the full output ideally
[03:55] <daftykins> "mediainfo -f filename.ext"
[03:55] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359070/
[03:56] <MrCeeIII> how do you choose a certain person in here
[03:56] <Guest86085> guys I have a problem, my external hard drive doesn't auto mount on ubuntu 15.10
[03:56] <L0> Guest86085: then mount it manually
[03:57] <Amaury141> holaaa
[03:57] <ssmn> I shouldn't need to mount it manually, that is not the behavior it shows with any other storage media
test
[03:58] <L0> or you can write the mountpoint in /etc/fstab
[03:58] <L0> ssmn: if the ext-hd is always plugged
[03:58] <Sargun> Any idea why my systemd process is using 2000 mb of RAM?
[03:58] * MrCeeIII slaps DinCahill around a bit with a large fishbot
[03:58] <ssmn> it is not, I only connect it to this computer scarcely
[03:58] <the_count> And, Bashing-om, What did you mean by that mount -o command, is that still nessecary,? And, or is Unity a bad idea all-togather?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> the_count: As a poke what returns ' synclient -l ' Thar is a l for (L)ist .
[03:59] <L0> ssmn: then i'd recommend writing a bash script to do the mounting for you
[03:59] <Amaury141> you are bastard
[03:59] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: type the first characters of a nick then hit tab.
[03:59] <Amaury141> xD
[03:59] <L0> ssmn: so you can just execute the script when you plug it in
[03:59] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: test
[03:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: Terminal scaling is ok, other portions are not
[03:59] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: stop that now.
[03:59] <MrCeeIII> okok
[03:59] <ssmn> but why is this happening, why with this drive alone?, is this a known bug in th elatest release or something?
[03:59] <zykotick9> !tab
[03:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: The remount was while you were in the "recovery console" by default in that environment the system mounts read only , if you need additional access you must make it so . Thus the 'remount' command .
[04:00] <zykotick9> MrCeeIII: ^^
[04:00] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: where you able to see the properties of my media file?
[04:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: Still couldn't find synaptics properties, and no-driver loaded
[04:00] <L0> ssmn: i have no idea, you might want to check /etc/fstab
[04:00] <MrCeeIII> zykotick9: yeah whats up
[04:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, got it, commited to memory
[04:00] <wafflejock> kilde: if it's a USB device you can use, lsusb to get the device id (should be the digits before the name of the device) can usually google that and the specific ubuntu version and find any issues
[04:01] <wafflejock> kilde: if you paste.ubuntu.com the output from lsusb can take a look too
[04:01] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: yes and i am still researching. which ubuntu version?
[04:01] <Amaury141> echo -e '\e[1;34mHolaaa\e[0m'
[04:01] <zykotick9> MrCeeIII: sorry, just trying to point out TAB for irc nick auto completion...
[04:01] <ssmn> fstab is only showing the internal drive's partition
[04:01] <MrCeeIII> 14.04
[04:01] <daftykins> !info libavcodec1d trusty
[04:01] <MrCeeIII> zykotick9: oh..ok
[04:01] <ssmn> I don't see any sort of log or anything that acknowledges the external drive whatsoever
[04:02] <ubuntu> test
[04:02] <ubuntu> Hello, my printer won't print on Ubuntu?
[04:02] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: close any open players then try "sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra" then try some players again
[04:02] <Bashing-om> CountessBathory: But, but we do have a driver ... anyway .. let;s re-install it ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ' . reboot and let's see if that has any effect .
[04:02] <Guest55397> The printer has been install and sends to printer, but nothing prints?
[04:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: ^^ .. opps .
[04:03] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: so sudo apt etc. and the try vlc again... shall i reboot prior to trying...
[04:03] <Abe> ubuntu what is the type of your printer
[04:03] <Corvus`> daftykins: Thanks for the link, by the way. I thought cannonical literally deletes old repositories at EOL. :-D
[04:03] <Guest55397> Abe, it's a Canon LBP7200Cdn.
[04:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: What if we tried that for me? reinstalling xorg for me... Or was that message for me?
[04:03] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: shouldn't need to
[04:03] <MrCeeIII> rgr
[04:03] <Corvus`> daftykins: Turns out, they just move them to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[04:04] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. was for you . my apologoes to CountessBathory for the highlight .
[04:04] <Corvus`> Which is just awesome, why not leave them where they are?
[04:04] <Guest55397> I have downloaded the drivers and installed okay, but nothing comes out of the printer?
[04:04] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: <sidenote re:synaptic driver> if the user can run "synclient" there is a _very_ good chance they have the "synaptic" driver installed
[04:04] <Guest55397> Windows 7 and Mac print ok.
[04:04] <Guest55397> so it's not the physical printer.
[04:05] <daftykins> Corvus`: yeah i don't need to know thanks, do this regularly ;) (provide the answer that is)
[04:05] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359191/
[04:05] <wafflejock> Guest55397: how is the computer connected to the printer? USB, network, wireless?
[04:05] <daftykins> Corvus`: because people such as yourself will keep using a dead release for months after and not realise something is very seriously wrong.
[04:05] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Can use all help here we can get . That is the thing, driver is installed but "synclient" is non-functional .
[04:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: Reinstalled and rebooting
[04:05] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: "dpkg -l | grep libavcodec | nc termbin.com 9999"
[04:06] <CountessBathory> your apology accepted =)
[04:06] <Corvus`> daftykins: for what it's worth, you're right, I should've installed an LTS release, then I'd have this PITA 5 months later in april 2016.
[04:06] <daftykins> Corvus`: no 14.04 is good until 2019.
[04:07] <Corvus`> Really? Okay.
[04:07] <daftykins> there was sanity in my comment :)
[04:07] <Guest55397> wafflejock, I'm using a networked printer, and Ubuntu has found the IP and installed nicely.
[04:07] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: ahhh, sorry for dropping in mid stream then. i've got nothin' for failed synclient itself, sorry. synclient is how i toggle disable/enable of my touchpad on my thinkpad (i also have the red mouse-button on the keyboard, so the touchpad just gets in the way sometimes while typing)
[04:07] <Corvus`> daftykins: Yes, there was. I just don't want to downgrade. I'd much rather upgrade again in april.
[04:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: Still no luck, say I booted into an older kernel, do you think that would have any effect?
[04:08] <Guest55397> I suspect something with the drivers, but that low down level is complex to find what line of code might need fixed?
[04:08] <daftykins> Corvus`: 15.04 will be dead by the end of Jan, so you'll need to do two afaiui
[04:08] <Corvus`> daftykins: what about 15.10?
[04:08] <MrCeeIII> dafty... what did that do?
[04:09] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: create a URL to paste here
[04:09] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359237/
[04:09] <daftykins> !releases
[04:09] <wafflejock> Guest55397: some commands you can try here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems#Network_printer
[04:09] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: you just pastebin'd a pastebin URL
[04:10] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359237/
[04:10] <daftykins> no no, i got the URL the first time :P
[04:10] <Corvus`> daftykins: So, I can install 15.10, and have it covered till 16.04
[04:10] <MrCeeIII> oh ok
[04:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: Booting an older kernel may well be productive . Try and advise us of what results then with the display and the touchpad .
[04:11] <daftykins> Corvus`: if you upgrade twice right now, sure
[04:11] <daftykins> (if you survive ;) )
[04:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: I will try that, how far back of a kernel should I try
[04:11] <wafflejock> Guest55397: if none of those commands help you could also try to watch with wireshark on the the ethernet interface and see if there's any communication going on back and forth between the printer and your computer but nmap and the like shown on that page should help to see what's going on as well
[04:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have from 3.16 to 3.19
[04:11] <Corvus`> daftykins: we all might not survive. :-)
[04:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ya got an original 3.13 kernel ?
[04:12] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: try "sudo apt-get install libavcodec54"
[04:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: I installed it after then, so I don't think so... Maybe we could install one... or that may break more stuff
[04:13] <Guest55397> wafflejock, thanks, will walkthrought. Yes, I thought about transmission analysis, but wasn't sure if I had to go that low into the abyss.
[04:13] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: whole bunch of stuff happening now
[04:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: Naw .. as you installed with HWE ( utopic) we do not want to re-introduce trusties kernel . try the 3.16 kernel .
[04:14] <Corvus`> daftykins: so. What are the chances it survives the downgrade? Comparing to two upgrades in a row?
[04:14] <Corvus`> yeah. Thought so.
[04:14] <MrCeeIII> what did that do?
[04:14] <daftykins> Corvus`: downgrades aren't supported
[04:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Right, I didn't think of that, rebooting now
[04:15] <Corvus`> daftykins: Oh, even better.
[04:15] <MrCeeIII> shall i attemt to open the file now?
[04:15] <daftykins> yes
[04:15] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: are these files from a cheap camera?
[04:16] <MrCeeIII> no it was pretty decent in its time... just some home movies of the kiddos
[04:16] <Corvus`> hehehe
[04:16] <Corvus`> home movies. Okay.
[04:16] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: mmm, well i'm sure they play fine on Windows... worst case scenario, they'd need converting
[04:17] <MrCeeIII> rgr...still not working although no probs with any other audio
[04:17] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: ok last idea is here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/171026/how-to-install-all-existing-media-codecs
[04:20] <Corvus`> daftykins: Don't they plan on releasing a rolling-release distro? :-D
[04:21] <daftykins> don't ask me.
[04:22] <daftykins> that'd be 100% wrong for servers.
[04:22] <Corvus`> yeah. Because servers love to be reinstalled every once in awhile.
[04:22] <Corvus`> *cough*
[04:22] <daftykins> i'm confused, you seem to be saying it's dumb to do what you're doing
[04:23] <Corvus`> It is.
[04:23] <Corvus`> I don't mind admitting it. :-D
[04:23] <django_> guys
[04:24] <django_> how do i use my cam to take ictures lol
[04:24] <django_> pictures
[04:24] <daftykins> webcam?
[04:24] <Corvus`> daftykins: they just didn't have any rolling-release distros in stock for jump-starting VPS, and I didn't care enough to change the OS.
[04:24] <Corvus`> I still don't.
[04:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: Intersting, The oringinal 3.16 kernel actually detected the keyboard shortcuts, as well as having synaptics configured as it should be, Although anything prior to this kernel is extremely slow. After the origional kernel that was installed, synaptics settings did not stick, Initial renederd the display correctly except for the scaling, everything else did not
[04:25] <anonymous> hello
[04:25] <the_count> hi
[04:25] <Guest10495> german?
[04:25] <daftykins> Corvus`: i understand where you're coming from, fwiw i run LTS until maybe 6 months before it's about to go EOL... then i install the new version side by side and migrate my data - power off the old VM, then delete it once everything's comfortably moved.
[04:26] <daftykins> i write notes of how to set up that newer release at the same time
[04:26] <Corvus`> daftykins: that's a viable approach.
[04:26] <Bashing-om> the_count: Think'n . Nother thought popped to mind .. as you have several kernels installed .. disk space ? what returns 'df -h ' ?
[04:26] <gopar> anyone using stumpWM?
[04:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13359412/
[04:27] <Guest10495> ?
[04:28] <MrCeeIII> daftykins: thanks for the insight... it would suck if i had to play these on a bill gates machine :(
[04:28] <the_count> Guest10495: What do you need?
[04:28] <Corvus`> daftykins: can you choose the version you're dist-upgrading to?
[04:29] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: mmm not a hugely mature attitude - some of the comments here talk about conversion of a kind, i'm not sure they'd work though http://askubuntu.com/questions/185490/how-to-play-wmv-files
[04:29] <Guest10495> help
[04:29] <daftykins> Corvus`: sort of, in that LTS tends to only upgrade to LTS (best not to say dist-upgrade as that doesn't change release, of course) and non tends to upgrade to anything
[04:30] <daftykins> Guest10495: fur Deutsch gehen Sie zu #ubuntu-de
[04:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Need to empty downloads, that type of thing... But I have 4.4 gb of space currently
[04:30] <Bashing-om> the_count: UnGood "/dev/sda6 76G 68G 4.2G 95% / " . There is the need to address this . Let's pause nad picj this up tomorrow . I have had it for this session .
[04:30] <Corvus`> daftykins: ok, "do-release-upgrade-ing to"
[04:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: Before we stop quick, what should it be?
[04:32] <owen1> chromium show me this message: We've detected you're using an older version of Chrome. i am on 41.0.2272.76-0ubuntu1.1134. is there a newer version? how do i upgrade?
[04:32] <daftykins> owen1: "cat /etc/issue" = ?
[04:32] <the_count> Guest10495: You have to say exactly what you need
[04:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: At 90% you are looking at framnetation of the file system. We want to get it down to about 40 % .(remove old kernels we will not use )
[04:33] <anonymous_> sorry
[04:33] <owen1> daftykins: Ubuntu 15.04
[04:34] <daftykins> !info chromium-browser vivid
[04:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ah, ok... Also, I do have an SSD, so no supprise defragmentations on me... Remember that.
[04:34] <daftykins> owen1: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy chromium-browser | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, i will talk to you tomorrow, have a good one!
[04:34] <Guest55397> wafflejock, ok, the printer checks are complete and the error I see is, printer not visible via DNS-SD/mDNS/BonJour.
[04:35] <mehdi__> sry for bothering u guys but my update manager is crashing and i need help :s
[04:35] <Guest55397> Where is the bug report I'm meant to post the Shell's output?
[04:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: K, we address the kernels then .
[04:35] <Guest55397> oh, I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[04:35] <wafflejock> Guest55397: can you use an IP instead of name for connecting the printer? I typically just do it by IP for network printers always more reliable than any name lookup
[04:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'll clear up some space also... I have been needing to do that anyways
[04:35] <owen1> daftykins: thanks. what does the nc command does?
[04:36] <daftykins> owen1: pastebins the result
[04:36] <MrCeeIII> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:36] <owen1> daftykins: amazing!
[04:36] <Guest55397> wafflejock, yes, I am using the IP 192.168.1.180, but the command $ avahi-browse -a -v -t -r showed IP addresses, but not the printer's IP.
[04:36] <wafflejock> Guest55397: ideally if your router lets you set a static IP for a device you can just set it there and connect by IP
[04:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Goodnight
[04:37] <Guest55397> wafflejock, yes, the printer is connected and passed all other Ubuntu printer tests, except the $ avahi comands.
[04:37] <anonymous_> thanks
[04:38] <daftykins> owen1: do you have a link created by that command?
[04:38] <mehdi__> Every time i check for new updates a failed window appears and says internet connection error or something like that
[04:38] <owen1> daftykins: i am still shocked with the nc command (: http://termbin.com/zh6r
[04:38] <Guest63045> hi
[04:39] <mehdi__> and nothing works so what can i do?
[04:39] <daftykins> owen1: cool, so that sees 45 fine - but what i'm concerned about is that if that was out of date, what else on your system was? have you been keeping current with updates?
[04:39] <anonymous_> German???
[04:39] <owen1> daftykins: no ):
[04:39] <daftykins> anonymous_: nein, nur Englisch
[04:39] <k1l> !de | anonymous_
[04:40] <daftykins> owen1: anyway to upgrade just chromium, close all open windows ideally and run "sudo apt-get install chroium-browser" or better yet, run "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:40] <owen1> daftykins: i'll do the latter. thanks
[04:40] <daftykins> owen1: :) np
[04:40] <owen1> daftykins: it will just update the packages, not my ubuntu version, right?
[04:41] <daftykins> owen1: correct
[04:41] <owen1> can i keep my browser open?
[04:41] <owen1> daftykins: ^
[04:41] <daftykins> i'd avoid it if possible, you'll need to relaunch it to start v45 anyway
[04:41] <mehdi__> is there some one that can help me right now?
[04:41] <daftykins> owen1: you could bookmark all your tabs, or change the options so it keeps them open
[04:42] <daftykins> mehdi__: try from the terminal; "sudo apt-get update" to start with (first up though tell me what "cat /etc/issue" says
[04:42] <owen1> daftykins: i don't have any tabs open. i am just curious if it's ok to keep chromuium open while 'apt-get upgrade' is running
[04:42] <daftykins> i think it'd work fine, i just wouldn't :D
[04:43] <Corvus`> owen1: it's ok, it doesn't really care
[04:43] <owen1> cool
[04:43] <mehdi__> daftykins: it fails :S
[04:43] <daftykins> mehdi__: can you show it via http://paste.ubuntu.com ? are all package management programs closed? what was the output from my second command?
[04:44] <daftykins> !pm
[04:44] <edd> what is the best way to backup in ubuntu 15.10?
[04:44] <daftykins> !backup
[04:44] <edd> I am not getting how the backup s/w in ubuntu works
[04:45] <wafflejock> owen1: typically the program will be in memory and the changes won't affect it but doesn't hurt to close it to make sure none of the changes of closing the program overwrite upgraded config or anything (not typically a problem though)
[04:45] <Corvus`> daftykins: you have commands for everything, don't you?
[04:45] <owen1> wafflejock: got it
[04:45] <daftykins> Corvus`: just not trolls ;_;
[04:45] <Corvus`> daftykins: actually, I'm pretty sure you have commands for that too.
[04:45] <edd> the backups program has its buttons greyed out
[04:46] <edd> daftykins, so should I not be using the already supplied Backups tool that comes with Ubuntu?
[04:47] <mehdi__> daftykins its on paste.ubuntu.com ill try the sec command now
[04:47] <wafflejock> edd: if the backup location is setup and there isn't a backup running right now the button shouldn't be greyed out, that said you may want to just use rsync or grsync if you want a GUI to make the configuration for rsync
[04:47] <daftykins> mehdi__: i need the specific URL pasted, as unfortunately guessing the several digit URLs takes time :)
[04:48] <edd> wafflejock, I liked how the macosx would keep doing backups behind the scenes. I saw that Backups "claims" to do the same at least :)
[04:48] <mehdi__> daftykins: im on Ubuntu 10.10 \n \ :S
[04:48] <edd> just cannot see a backup location it writes to
[04:48] <wafflejock> edd: it does pretty much do the same but you have to configure the backup location either a network share or otherwise
[04:49] <edd> and I have a external USB drive that it can write to.. but then I might get lazy and not backup everyday
[04:49] <Corvus`> daftykins: I think it's time for your EOL lecture once again.
[04:49] <wafflejock> edd: should be in storage location
[04:49] <wafflejock> edd: I backup like weekly but have git for remote code being "backed up" and backups automated on my servers but don't take it as seriously on my personal machine either
[04:49] <edd> best would be if I had a remote location to store all this :(
[04:49] <mehdi__> daftykins: what can i do for now?
[04:50] <edd> wafflejock, I have a lot of PDFs and books that I download that I need to keep and wouldn't want to lose them
[04:50] <daftykins> mehdi__: that's been dead for 3 years i think.
[04:50] <wafflejock> edd: there are lots of remote options the backup tool here shows S3 or Rackspace as options, personally using a FreeBSD NAS
[04:50] <daftykins> mehdi__: backup and clean install 14.04
[04:51] <Corvus`> daftykins: See? Mine been dead only for a couple of months.
[04:52] <wafflejock> edd: have an external USB I configured with Clonezilla I use when I setup new systems but the more regular backups for my machine just go to the NAS that has RAID setup to mirror the data I feel pretty confident about that, but daily changes in code all go out to remote git server that has daily snapshots at AWS, all depends on how often you update things or make new data how often you need to backup though
[04:52] <ubuntu-mate> noob here. can I mount a /target from wubi.exe /ubuntu/disks/root.disk ext4 ??
[04:52] <wafflejock> edd: rsync is nice though cause can work over SSH (think locally too) and can recover from interruptions and do incremental backups (only sync things that have changed access/modify times)
[04:53] <edd> yeah I think a weekly one is enough.. the code etc can just go to a git repo or I use Dropbox for that
[04:53] <mehdi__> daftykins: am i suppose to install 14.04 by a USB driver? by downloading it from the website ?or there is a way to install it via the terminal?
[04:53] <edd> though with rsync I will have to write a script and run a cron job or something yeah?
[04:53] <edd> apparently Dejadup isn't that good.. looking at the reviews it doesn't look good at all
[04:53] <edd> recovery doesn't seem to work very well
[04:54] <Corvus`> mehdi__: 14.04 is also dead.
[04:54] <daftykins> mehdi__: you might be able to put the ISO on your /boot if it's a separate partition ; DVD or flash drive would be best
[04:54] <Corvus`> as is 14.10
[04:54] <daftykins> Corvus`: nope
[04:54] <daftykins> !14.04
[04:54] <daftykins> i'm typing from 14.04.3 right now.
[04:54] <Corvus`> Oh, 14.04 is an LTS?
[04:54] <Corvus`> Ok then.
[04:54] <wafflejock> edd: yeah DejaDup has been fine in my experience but the file format isn't as simple as a tar.gz of your data
[04:54] <daftykins> yep that's what i suggested installing :)
[04:55] <mehdi__> Corvus': i should go with what then?
[04:55] <wafflejock> edd: grsync helps you get the commands can basically be like a 1 or two line script depending on what you're wanting to do exactly
[04:55] <mehdi__> daftykins: Well thx m8 :)
[04:55] <Corvus`> mehdi__: I was wrong initially. 14.04 is an LTS release.
[04:55] <edd> wafflejock, just want to backup a few folders like /home
[04:56] <wafflejock> edd: but yeah would basically just be a small script with the source, target, and any ignores or whatever and a cron job to run it
[04:56] <mehdi__> Corvus': Oh ok thx m8 :)
[04:56] <Corvus`> mehdi__: as I've heard it's good till 2019.
[04:57] <Corvus`> sounds like a lot of work, btw
[04:57] <edd> wafflejock, that should be enough I suppose
[04:57] <edd> just wondering how best I can do it automatically to write to my USB drive
[04:57] <mehdi__> Corvus': Well, it will do the job then :) See ya!
[04:57] <wafflejock> edd: regarding backing up your home you might want to exclude .cache or if you use thunderbird might want to exclude that unless it's important to you since those files all change a lot
[04:58] <edd> ok
[04:58] <edd> am missing my mac already :)
[04:58] <edd> I could pick up files from like an hour or two ago that I had accidentally messed up
[04:58] <edd> should I be making local backups?
[04:58] <wafflejock> edd: eh there are trade offs, more customization sometimes means more work to get things how you want them too
[04:59] <edd> and then copy these backups to my USB drive?
[04:59] <wafflejock> edd: believe ZFS snapshots can give you the kind of functionality to roll back but haven't tried running it on my laptop/desktop yet just as a NAS
[04:59] <edd> I don't have another server to which I can remotely backup my files.. just a usb drive
[05:00] <edd> should I then do local backups and periodically move them manually to my usb?
[05:00] <edd> or make copies to my usb periodically
[05:00] <edd> ?
[05:00] <wafflejock> edd: eh I don't worry about having local backups just backup to the USB or NAS or whatever is available typically editors will have local history baked in as well, like IntelliJ for things that were like an hour or a day ago
[05:01] <bqllpd> I swear... google is completely useless now... can someone help me find a list for missing devel dependencies for installing rpl/2 from rpl2.net?
[05:02] <edd> wafflejock, its mostly stuff like presentation slides or something.. I sometimes have Libreoffice crash on me and then it cannot recover
[05:02] <edd> then I have to fix all the formatting screwups
[05:02] <edd> ok will just use grsync
[05:02] <wafflejock> edd: hmm yeah haven't had a great time with libreoffice present stuff myself typically I lean on Google Drive for the office tools
[05:03] <meeeen> what is BlackBuntu ?
[05:03] <wafflejock> edd: writer, draw and calc have been good but present does seem to still have some problems
[05:03] <daftykins> sounds unsupported and/or fake
[05:03] <edd> oh so you use their online ppt tools?
[05:03] <bqllpd> I found a site a while back that lists the missing dependencies from google, but it seems more and more often that google is censoring stuff so I can't find it again.
[05:03] <k1l> meeeen: not an official ubuntu version
[05:03] <wafflejock> edd: yeah have used the Google Slides, it's pretty good, not great but not terrible for my uses
[05:03] <edd> or you just upload your stuff to gdrive from time to time
[05:04] <edd> sometimes I end up using the ppt drawing tools
[05:04] <edd> I think I too will give google ppt stuff a shot
[05:04] <edd> better than Libreoffice screwing me over
[05:04] <meeeen> k1l: oh ok thx :)
[05:04] <edd> :)
[05:11] <Corvus`> I have an idea! I'll wait till 16.04 and then upgrade, how about that?
[05:16] <reisio> sounds silly
[05:19] <edd> wafflejock, what template do you use for the slides?
[05:20] <edd> I have a really nice simple one for mine with just a blank white one ... but for the title pages I have a dark black line that passes through
[05:21] <N|GGER> ubuntu sucks
[05:21] <N|GGER> the devs try too hard to make it look like windows
[05:22] <Corvus`> doesn't look much like windows to me...
[05:23] <k1l> dont mind the trolls.
[05:23] <somsip> Corvus`: please dont encourage the trolls
[05:23] <Corvus`> meh
[05:23] <Corvus`> It's a tradition.
[05:23] <regedit> hello
[05:23] <regedit> i'd like to download this tool for latest Ubuntu 15.04 https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apt-offline
[05:24] <regedit> what is the correct version, "stretch" or "sid" ?
[05:24] <somsip> !offline | regedit (use the repo package - I think this links to it)
[05:24] <somsip> regedit: maybe it doesn't link...
[05:25] <k1l> !info apt-offline vivid | regedit
[05:25] <k1l> why not use the original ubuntu package instead of ruining your system with using debian packages?
[05:26] <regedit> well they did just release a newer version (1.7) so i was hoping i could just get away with... using it?
[05:26] <regedit> not a good idea?
[05:26] <k1l> why do you need 1.7?
[05:26] <regedit> i dunno, because 7 is a greater number than 6?
[05:26] <regedit> :p
[05:27] <k1l> yeah, start with the original ubuntu package.
[05:27] <regedit> alrighty then
[05:27] <k1l> and when you find a reason why you really need the 1.7 then you can look for a ppa or such.
[05:27] <regedit> i dont think there are any ppas for it yet, this update is just about a week new
[05:28] <k1l> i bet you wont feel the difference anyway.
[05:28] <regedit> i would agree before counter betting on that :D
[05:28] <daftykins> chasing version numbers is a highly unproductive action :)
[05:29] <regedit> blame it on gaming, they've trained our minds to pursue the highest numbers, it feels like winning highest score ahahaha
[05:29] <k1l> regedit: yeah, thats really a curse and will bring you in hell on linux machines :)
[05:30] <regedit> while on the topic - this tool is rather smitten by severe case of catch 22, about which none of its official docs seem to address; how to bootstrap the offline machine? updated links to the latest .debs should be listed
[05:32] <regedit> do i point make? or what
[05:33] <regedit> ahem, misbehaving wifi aside, do i point make?
[05:34] <daftykins> that's not english, regedit
[05:34] <daftykins> and no, i come from a childhood of gaming and don't rush on numbers needlessly :P
[05:34] <daftykins> hmm looks like regedit got scrubbed
[05:37] <regedit> i mean about the catch 22 with apt-offline
[05:37] <stanreg> What is the ram threshold for which a web-browsing/light-programming user should start considering using zRAM?
[05:50] <wafflejock> stanreg: probably safe to say it's going to be better in most cases than dipping into swap space so if you use, free -m and see you're dipping into the swap it might not be a bad idea
[05:50] <reisio> stanreg: https://timos.me/blog/zram-to-enable-or-not-to-enable-229/
[05:52] <wafflejock> stanreg: personally use a chrome extension called the suspender for pausing tabs I have open in the background I want to be able to go back to but haven't viewed recently, can help to keep the browser memory usage more reasonable
[05:53] * reisio uses bookmarks
[05:53] <stanreg> reisio, your link mainly discusses zram in the context of mobile phones; apples/oranges.
[05:54] <stanreg> wafflejock, hmm, you would think that browsers would compress the tabs you are not actively viewing... don't they?
[05:55] <reisio> you give them too much credit :)
[05:55] <wafflejock> stanreg: typically all the browser tabs in chrome (believe firefox too) run as separate processes but they don't actually suspend everything on the page when you switch tabs so video processing or whatever can resume on those pages in the background, hence the extension :)
[05:57] <stanreg> wafflejock, how does 'pauser' make the memory usage more reasonable? does it 'compress' the tab's space in memory when you pause it?
[05:58] <stanreg> gotta google that shit
[05:58] <wafflejock> stanreg: no just saves the URL and closes the process down for rendering and all I believe, you can tell it not to ever suspend certain tabs too or ones that have script on them seem to stay active like plnkr
[05:58] <wafflejock> then when you click in the tab body it reloads the page
[05:59] <stanreg> ...so it's just saving cpu-attention to that particular tab you paused.
[05:59] <jireh2009> hello
[05:59] <stanreg> hm
[05:59] <stanreg> wafflejock, is that extension from the google library? Can't find it.
[05:59] <jireh2009> is there any one can help me modify xfce
[05:59] <jireh2009> ?
[05:59] <wafflejock> stanreg: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-great-suspender/klbibkeccnjlkjkiokjodocebajanakg?hl=en
[06:00] <stanreg> Oh yeah, there. Let's read :)
[06:00] <stanreg> jireh2009, #xubuntu? #xfce?
[06:00] <wafflejock> jireh2009: modify is a broad term what do you want to change?
[06:00] <jireh2009> appearance
[06:00] <jireh2009> ??
[06:00] <jireh2009> is there any tut's about that ?
[06:01] <jireh2009> i just install xubuntu on lxle
[06:01] <wafflejock> jireh2009: haven't used XFCE much but some pages when I search on XFCE theming https://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes
[06:01] <k1l> jireh2009: better ask the lxle guys then. they change some stuff there
[06:02] <jireh2009> ahh ok ... tnx for the info...
[06:04] <Li> how to add androind studio starting file to unity menu and stop using the command .. sh studio.sh?
[06:05] <wafflejock> Li you basically want to make a .desktop file for it, there's a handy program that helps with making them called alacarte, can sudo apt-get install alacarte then should be able to create the .desktop file there
[06:06] <wafflejock> Li basically desktop entry has what command to run and an icon and a few other optional things like keywords for search and file type associations
[06:07] <wafflejock> Li if you, cd /usr/share/applications/ you can see a lot of existing .desktop entries
[06:08] <Li> wafflejock: thank you for the great answer :)
[06:08] <Li> awsome
[06:08] <wafflejock> sure no problem :)
[06:11] <Li> how to open a termainal from file browser current location without having to switch back and forth between grid/list views? are there any keyboard shortcuts?
[06:12] <stanreg> wafflejock, what if you 'suspend' the tab while watching a video, and then reload it. Does the video resume from the same position?
[06:14] <wafflejock> stanreg: not sure about that honestly don't recall it being a problem so I think either it doesn't suspend those or Youtube is smart enough to resume otherwise think I would notice, I watch mostly short form stuff on YouTube though
[06:15] <stanreg> gotcha. Thanks!
[06:15] <wafflejock> Li I use nemo for my file browser it has a Open Terminal here option in the right click menu when I'm in a folder (has F3 for split pane view too which is why I use it mostly)
[06:16] <OerHeks> !info nautilus-actions
[06:16] <wafflejock> Li typically I just use "guake" for my terminals so just F9 to drop down the terminal (or whatever hotkey you decide to use) can Ctrl+L to get the address in most file browsers
[06:17] <wafflejock> -address/+path
[06:17] <wafflejock> address if you do it in a browser too thought typically
[06:20] <stanreg> wafflejock, you're going to like this: https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2015/09/tab-discarding
[06:20] <Li> wafflejock: F9 hides/shows the sidebar and Ctrl+L shows the address bar (which is good also I was looking for this option) how it possible to make ubuntu keep that address bar as a default?
[06:21] <Li> wafflejock: I'm trying alacarte now but not sure how to make the command for running this .sh file
[06:21] <Li> I added this which is not allowing me to finish the process "/home/john/Downloads/AndroidStudioPackages/android-studio-ide-141.2343393-linux/bin/sh studio.sh"
[06:25] <rizi> need help is exporting paths for GNU radio for python
[06:26] <rizi> *in
[06:26] <rizi> i have gnu radio installed but python is unable to import its module
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> rizi: maybe the #python guys can help you
[06:28] <rizi> i am not writing a script just want to run GNU radio
[06:29] <rizi> lotuspsychje, i even found the link for someone with same problem but i cant understand it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18140452/importerror-no-module-named-gnuradio-when-trying-to-execute-uhd-fft
[06:33] <Li> ok,, deconf-editor did the trick for the location path bar matter
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Li
[06:34] <Li> ubottu: Glad that you're glad I made it :D
[06:34] <Li> I love bots
[06:35] <Li> but I have reboot to check the new configureation
[06:35] <Li> buhbye botty
[06:41] <Li> it didn't work, file browser is still not showing path
[06:43] <gopesh> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER gopesh ykzgcsmyyyrf
[06:44] <Li> :O
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> gopesh: better change password now
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> Li: nobody knows what you are talking about, re-ask your question in one line once in a while
[06:46] <gopesh> lotuspsychje, i have changed my password
[06:47] <gopesh> did you know my password :P
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> gopesh: use the network status tab for register and identify
[06:48] <Li> lotuspsychje: how did you know that no one nows what I'm talking about?
[06:48] <Roxec> hello guys
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Li
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Roxec: welcome, what can we do for you?
[06:49] <Li> !ask | lotuspsychje
[06:49] <Roxec> lotuspsychje, i was googling about ubuntu applications , i need to know if there is an application like vmware and oracle virtual box in ubuntu to add windows to it or other operating systems
[06:50] <OerHeks> kvm
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> Roxec: dont you like virtualbox?
[06:50] <pinPoint> hey, I had php-cli install break on me earlier. so I did a autoremove on apache2 and the issue is gone. What is php-cli mainly used in?
[06:51] <Roxec> lotuspsychje, you didn't got me
[06:51] <Roxec> lotuspsychje, i mean if i had ubuntu my only operating system on my laptop , is there a virtual box application in ubuntu app center to add operating systems to it ?
[06:52] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[06:52] <Roxec> OerHeks, thanks and sorry didn't know your talking to me about kvm
[07:02] <somsip> pinPoint: runnig PHP scripts in cli
[07:02] <danmulvey> hello! anyone have strong opinions on xmonad vs i3? i really wanna try out a tiling wm and they both look pretty sweet but im not sure which one i wanna start messing around with first
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> danmulvey: did you try the #i3 channel?
[07:05] <OerHeks> see the cons http://www.slant.co/topics/1902/compare/~i3_vs_xmonad_vs_awesome
[07:09] <danmulvey> lotuspsychje: not yet but i will now!
[07:09] <luffyUbuntu> lets talk man
[07:11] <danmulvey> OerHeks: thanks! reading it now
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | luffyUbuntu
[07:15] <Thete> Is sudo group called sudo or admin on ubuntu 15.10?
[07:15] <Ben64> should be sudo
[07:16] <OerHeks> type groups in terminal :-)
[07:23] <pinPoint> my nginx was built with the following terms. Are these specific to nginx or just gcc/make? --with-cc-opt='-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' --with-ld-opt='-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,-s,-z,now'
[07:26] <YetiFur> Trying ubuntu-mate from live usb on 2009 white MacBook. No wireless internet or right click function. Take it after install I can wire connect and install a driver :? Stumped about the right click so help would be appreciated. Many thanks in advanced...
[07:27] <somsip> !mac | YetiFur
[07:28] <YetiFur> thanks for the link. I'll read it again...
[07:39] <CodeS3c> hello
[07:43] <Nyterax> hi, I need more space on /boot/. this is what I have there, what from that can I safely remove? http://pastebin.com/BGBtaNbT
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | Nyterax
[07:44] <OerHeks> remove oldkernels, usually do.
[07:45] <JesusSavesMe> Hi i put Eclipse executable in /usr/local/bin why does not Xubuntu menu generate it?
[07:46] <Nyterax> got bleachbit now, looks good
[07:46] <Nyterax> thanks
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> JesusSavesMe: how did you install eclipse?
[07:48] <JesusSavesMe> lotuspsychje, from website Eclipse 4.5
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> I put it in /opt/eclipse
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> extracted
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> JesusSavesMe: you need to install eclipse from repos
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> Nop
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> yep
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> Repos is outdated
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> !latest | JesusSavesMe
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> eclipse 3.8 there
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> 4.5 is for me
[07:49] <JesusSavesMe> But that's seperate discussion
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> !info eclipse | JesusSavesMe
[07:50] <JesusSavesMe> I need to know why Xubuntu menu doesnt generate eclipse in menu because i put executable symlink in /usr/local/bin
[07:50] <somsip> JesusSavesMe: check this http://rdpzycho.blogspot.hk/2014/06/installing-eclipse-44-luna-on-xubuntu.html
[07:51] <JesusSavesMe> i know how to install it
[07:51] <somsip> JesusSavesMe: if you read it it explains how to get the menu item to work...
[07:51] <JesusSavesMe> Ok
[07:51] <JesusSavesMe> I see
[07:52] <JesusSavesMe> So whisker menu doesnt check /usr/local/bin for apps?
[07:52] <JesusSavesMe> i have to put it in /usr/share/applications?
[07:55] <garret1> http://i.imgur.com/lFw6RXQ.png
[07:56] <ren0v0> Hi i have "Automatically check for updates" set to *never*. Yet i'm still getting a popup for new updates?
[07:59] <Kartagis> I've just installed wine, and when I click on an .exe, archive utility starts. any ideas?
[08:01] <Kartagis> garret1: you removed the url in the address bar but left it in top activa pages :)
[08:02] <garret1> yea :)
[08:03] <garret1> its blackfriday traffic
[08:03] <Nyterax> ok bleachbit didn't remove old kernels, do i have to do that manually?
[08:06] <cfhowlett> Nyterax, yes
[08:10] <tuor> hi, what ide for webdevelopment would your sugest? (easy to use is importent not to have many feature)
[08:10] <tuor> (ubuntu 14.04)
[08:11] <hateball> tuor: are you looking for a wysiwyg editor?
[08:12] <tuor> hateball, I don't know what a wyswyg editor is. I'm looking to edit my html and css and then just click a button to view it.
[08:15] <hateball> tuor: I havent used one in a looooooooong time, and I will bet they are outdated or unmaintained... but there is nvu, kompozer, bluefish... a google suggests there is a recent thing called bluegriffon
[08:17] <tuor> hateball, thx.
[08:19] <Erbershern> Hi, so I'm trying to repair a problem
[08:19] <Erbershern> with compiz
[08:19] <Guest3806> Hello, I just submited a bug report for a Canon LBP720Cdn printer not working on Ubuntu. Any other ways of troubleshoting. I walked through the network printer debug.
[08:20] <AQLIVE> hey anyone here who can help me getting my dual boot working again? I installed the boot repair tool and have written down the URL as it did not solve my problem
[08:20] <AQLIVE> Please ping me
[08:21] <Erbershern> On the login screen, I can see that a prompt to report a system error comes up, but it fades quickly, and the login screen is missing the top status bar. On attempting to login, I am immediately dropped back to the login screen. apport mostly shows that compiz is failing. Ubuntu 14.04.3
[08:22] <AQLIVE> hey anyone here who can help me getting my dual boot working again? I installed the boot repair tool and have written down the URL as it did not solve my problem
[08:22] <AQLIVE> Please ping me
[08:22] <Erbershern> may be related to gdbus
[08:22] <OerHeks> Guest3806, that model is not in the openprinting database .. http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Canon/
[08:23] <cfhowlett> !patience | AQLIVE,
[08:23] <AQLIVE> thanks
[08:25] <Guest3806> OerHeks, thanks. Does that mean it won't work? Canon provide a Linux driver and the printer installs ok. Just doesn't print.
[08:27] <OerHeks> Guest3806, i have no clue about that, just openprinting is the 1st place to check. canon is not that good supported.
[08:28] <Guest3806> OerHeks, ok. So I guess I would like to know how to make a driver to make unsuported printers work on Ubuntu.
[08:32] <AQLIVE> hey anyone here who can help me getting my dual boot working again? I installed the boot repair tool and have written down the URL as it did not solve my problem
[08:32] <OerHeks> Guest3806, not even supported in scangear http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/12/canon-driver-scangear-mp-ubuntu-14-04/
[08:39] <Guest3806> OerHeks, k, thanx.
[08:50] <noregret> everything i type in firefox is underlined in red, why? are there no default dictionaries in firefox? (15.10)
[08:58] <lucido> hi, what window manager and X-server does the default 15.04 desktop installation use?
[09:00] <kelvinella> hello
[09:00] <kelvinella> guys how to join ##php and message?
[09:01] <kelvinella> I cant send any message in ##php and I have some php questions to ask
[09:01] <somsip> !register | kelvinella
[09:02] <somsip> lucido: unity and Xorg
[09:03] <lucido> somsip, how do I start unity and Xorg? I nned it to set up simultanious muiltiple user vnc sessions according to this tutorial: http://www.freetutorialssubmit.com/Ubuntu+Remote+Desktop+multiple+users . What should I put into .vnc/xstartup to start up an ubuntu desktop environment like the default one in 15.04.
[09:04] <somsip> lucido: no idea
[09:15] <matrixise> hi all
[09:15] <matrixise> do you know how can I develop a small widget for the unity interface ? I suppose it's defined in the freedesktop standard
[09:26] <lucido> having trouble vnc-ing into my ubuntu machine from windows. I can telnet port 5900 but the connection in vnc is rejected
[09:26] <lucido> I can log in from the machine to itself via vnc but not from the windows machine
[09:30] <guite> Hello everyone, I’m trying to install the lts enablement packages on my ubuntu trusty and I have more or less the same error than his => http://askubuntu.com/questions/588186/ubuntu-14-04-upgrading-hardware-enablement-stack-hwe-shows-unmet-dependencies
[09:31] <guite> I tries to install the lts trusty package (like in the answer) but it didn’t work…
[09:32] <guite> Do, any of you, know a workaround ? Do you think I should install the ltse for all distributions from trusty to vivid ?
[09:34] <Kartagis> I've just installed wine, and when I click on an .exe, archive manager starts. any ideas?
[09:34] <guite> Kartagis: launch it with wine in command-line… just in case :)
[09:34] <guite> Kartagis: wine your_app.exe
[09:35] <guite> Kartagis: there might be a way to associate automatically .exe files to wine but I don’t know how
[09:38] <lucido> can you use relvnc to remote into ubuntu desktops
[09:38] <lucido> ?
[09:41] <wmorri> lucido, according to their website it would appear so. I haven't used a vnc program in a long time though.
[09:42] <wmorri> lucido, also there is a remote desktop client installed already, if you want to use it, remmina remote desktop.
[09:42] <sprtizel> hi guys
[09:43] <sprtizel> anybody know how can I set the my path to get phantomjs that was installed via npm?
[09:44] <Nyms> Hello guys
[09:44] <Nyms> I a have huge issue with my ubuntu
[09:44] <Nyms> each time I lauch eclipse (java) xorgs take 100% of my cpu
[09:46] <rafgas> hello all. TIFU by installing linux mint with same /home as ubuntu. Nothing crucial happened, but could i rebuild ubuntu /home so that my applications reset?
[09:46] <rafgas> I will be removing linux mint, so its not a problem to break the mint application settings
[09:47] <hateball> rafgas: There's not really any way to "reset" applications other than remove their associated configs in ~/
[09:48] <rafgas> so applications that have new themes etc, i just find their .FOLDER and delete it?
[09:48] <rafgas> example : chrome has the linux mint theme which is ugly
[09:49] <rafgas> so i find %USER/.chrome and delete it all and reinstall chrome?
[10:00] <lettuce45> im updating to linux image 4.2.0.19 and its taking ages. What did you do to it?
[10:01] <lettuce45> configuring it never took so long, 4 minutes already
[10:03] <sz332> hello guys, i have a question. It seems that there is some problem with postgresql 9.4.5 (which is not there in 9.4.4) do you have any idea how i can enforce the installation of 9.4.4 instead of latest (9.4.5)?
[10:04] <Ubik_> is it a good choice to update kernel if the system is working properly?
[10:04] <Ubik_> (I have 4.2.0.18)
[10:07] <hateball> Ubik_: Yes, it is most usually security fixes. You will still have your old kernel installed and available until you run apt-get automremove
[10:08] <Ubik_> hateball: ok thx for info
[10:08] <hateball> Ubik_: Apparently I cannot spell autoremove, but you get the point
[10:09] <Ubik_> hateball: yes...
[10:11] <Guest42324> hola
[10:11] <VsyachePuz> which process draws the main menu in ubuntu?
[10:12] <Guest42324> yaches
[10:12] <Guest42324> hello
[10:13] <wmorri> Guest42324, do you have a question? This is the support channel.
[10:21] <guruprasad> I'm learning about linux network namespaces and I am trying out things on a Ubuntu 14.04 vagrant VM. I have created a namespace and pair of peer virtual network devices and assigned one of them to the namespace.
[10:22] <guruprasad> I have also assigned each of them IP addresses so that both can ping each other
[10:22] <guruprasad> So how can I send the traffic from inside the namespace to the internet?
[10:22] <guruprasad> The network adapter with the internet access is in the global namespace as eth0 and the peer virtual interfaces are veth0 veth1
[10:23] <Nme85> u dont really need a dhcp for the devices to communicate but I think the logs can be useful for forensics
[10:23] <Nme85> well by default
[10:23] <Nme85> Ill be quiet now b4 I confuse some1 or myself
[10:31] <TJ-> guruprasad: are you using veth interfaces on host and netns ?
[10:32] <BeerLover> why does rm give this prompt rm: remove regular empty file ‘test’?
[10:33] <BeerLover> i did alias rm='rm -rf'
[10:33] <BeerLover> even after that
[10:33] <BeerLover> it prompts
[10:34] <auronandace> not the wisest alias
[10:34] <TJ-> BeerLover: that's a recipe for disaster!
[10:35] <madaal> Could someone help me with a command line problem, I need to run a program in background then run a second program and then be able to stop the first one when the second terminate
[10:36] <Ben64> madaal: program1 & program2 && kill program1
[10:38] <TJ-> madaal: "command1 &; PID=$!; command3; kill -TERM ${PID}"
[10:40] <madaal> Thanks for the responses, I will try, just for my personal information, what's the difference between &; and &
[10:41] <Daniyal> Hi, How long does your ubuntu 14.04 take to load after login with hdd?
[10:41] <BeerLover> TJ-, why?
[10:42] <TJ-> BeerLover: wouldn't take much of a slip at the keyboard to accidentally delete an entire heirachy, since you have '-f' (force) option there
[10:42] <auronandace> Daniyal: depends on your hardware and desktop, with unity several seconds to load after logging in
[10:43] <BeerLover> TJ-, rm -i is for people who don't think before deleting
[10:43] <Daniyal> thanks auronandace, it's take 40 sec for me, is it normal?
[10:43] <BeerLover> rm -rf is for people who are careful or want to learn how to be careful
[10:43] <Daniyal> with ci3 4g ram
[10:44] <lettuce45> which would you keep cslite or cookie controller? firefox addons. I dont need both, do I?
[10:44] <auronandace> Daniyal: installed anything unusual lately?
[10:44] <TJ-> BeerLover: right, and then run a script that calls 'rm $SOME_DIR' and executes "rm -rf $SOME_DIR"
[10:44] <Daniyal> auronandace, no
[10:44] <guruprasad> TJ, yes veth1 is in the global namespace on the host and veth0 is in a network namespace and it is a peer of veth1
[10:45] <TJ-> guruprasad: are you using a bridge on the host ?
[10:46] <BeerLover> why would someone call rm some_dir when rm doesn't work for directories unless you have -rf
[10:46] <BeerLover> ?
[10:46] <guruprasad> TJ-, no I am not using a bridge
[10:46] <TJ-> BeerLover: 'someone' may be a script that is accidentally run against a directory name
[10:47] <BeerLover> LOL
[10:48] <TJ-> guruprasad: so you've assigned an address and default gateway to veth0 using "ip netns exec .. ifconfig veth0 ..." and "ip netns exec ... ip route add default ..." ?
[10:48] <guruprasad> TJ-, yes I have
[10:49] <VsyachePuz> Is unity-panel derived from gnome-panel? Does this mean, that it is possible to add "panel applet" to unity panel?
[10:51] <TJ-> guruprasad: I'd suspect its because you haven't bridged on the host, so you'll need a specific route aded to the host's routing table to route to veth0 for replies. Run 'tcpdump' on the host to confirm the netns is sending packets out but replies aren't being routed back to it by the host
[10:51] <Ubik_> VsyachePuz: good question
[10:54] <TJ-> !info unity-panel
[10:54] <guruprasad> TJ-, not sure I understood your reply. If I run 'ping 8.8.8.8' from the namespace, it gets as far as the peer interface in the global namespace. But from there how does it go out to the internet?
[10:55] <dirchev> clear
[10:55] <TJ-> guruprasad: routed as any other packet, but then when a reply arrives the host needs to know to route the destination IP address to veth0 since you're not bridging
[10:57] <lettuce45> NO_PUBKEY 63F7D4AFF6D61D45, what I tried: wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -63F7D4AFF6D61D45 , but that didnt work. What am I doing wrong?
[10:58] <guruprasad> TJ-: There is a route like this already on the host - "10.1.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 veth0"
[10:58] <Kartagis> does t in filenames recovered by photorec mean thumbnail?
[11:01] <noregret> everything i type in firefox is underlined in red, why? are there no default dictionaries in firefox? (15.10)
[11:03] <TJ-> guruprasad: so does tcpdump show the replies arriving on veth0 in the netns?
[11:09] <madaal> TJ- I've tried you solution for the background task, but it give me an error (-bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;') when using &;
[11:09] <guruprasad> TJ-, I see ARP requests on veth0 when I run tcpdump
[11:10] <guruprasad> I am running ping 8.8.8.8 from the namespace
[11:10] <onto> Hi! I upgraded my installation to Trusty and now I can't install libsdl1.2-dev. It complains about missing dependencies. How do I fix this?
[11:10] <onto> Here are the errors: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ba73d39e7361b734b27e
[11:11] <onto> Trying to install libglu1-mesa-dev gives even more dependency issues.
[11:15] <TJ-> madaal: oh sorry, my typo, there shouldn't be a ; after the &: "command1 & PID=$!; command3; kill -TERM ${PID}"
[11:17] <madaal> Thanks it seems to work !
[11:18] <lvleph> I have a problem when trying to do a dual boot of OSX and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Macbook Pro 11,4. The problem is that the EFI partition is full and thus doesn't allow me to install anything there. The issue seems to be a 180MB cache file located in EFI/Apple/Caches/. Is it safe to delete this? I tried resetting NVRAM, but this had no affect.
[11:23] <ioannis_> hello people
[11:23] <ioannis_> new in U mate
[11:27] <dengxinjun> hello
[11:27] <dengxinjun> Who is here?
[11:27] <dengxinjun> Who's here?
[11:27] <dengxinjun> ?
[11:27] <Kadsh> ?
[11:33] <Cong> hello help
[11:35] <lvleph> I have a problem when trying to do a dual boot of OSX and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Macbook Pro 11,4. The problem is that the EFI partition is full and thus doesn't allow me to install anything there. The issue seems to be a 180MB cache file located in EFI/Apple/Caches/. Is it safe to delete this? I tried resetting NVRAM, but this had no affect.
[11:37] <azi`> hm. I did sudo apt-get remove wine* and now when I log into the system I don't see the toolbar and all the gnome things
[11:37] <azi`> is there a way I could undo this?
[11:39] <hateball> azi`: check /var/log/apt/history*
[11:39] <Ubuntu-LuckNow> @nya I think the dependent packages got deleted by you
[11:39] <hateball> azi`: then you can see what was removed, if there are obvious gnome packages missing
[11:39] <azi`> hateball: thanks
[11:41] <azi`> hateball: is there a way to redo the last remove? or a way to quickly install whatever is listed in history.log in /var/apt?
[11:41] <hateball> azi`: None that I know
[11:42] <Ubuntu-LuckNow> use synaptic package manager to download the stuff to a separate folder
[11:42] <azi`> hateball: I have the list of packages but i cannot directly do apt-get install. i'd need to parse it a bit :/
[11:42] <Ubuntu-LuckNow> that way synaptic is useful for re-use of packages
[11:43] <hateball> azi`: http://askubuntu.com/questions/247549/is-it-possible-to-undo-an-apt-get-install-command there are scripted solution
[11:44] <hateball> azi`: but yes, that's all that exists. parsing the log. there's nothing built-in to apt
[11:45] <azi`> hateball: unfortunately i am not under X atm =)
[11:47] <hateball> azi`: right, well it just lists various grep's, but they are for removing what was installed. not the other way around
[11:47] <hateball> azi`: anyhow, I dont know the meta-package for gnome, but cant you apt-get install --reinstall it?
[11:48] <cyberalex4life> azi`, the meta for gnome used to be ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[11:49] <cyberalex4life> azi`, you can also install tasksel, then 'sudo tasksel install' and choose from menu Ubuntu Gnome
[11:50] <azi`> hateball: cyberalex4life thanks
[11:50] <azi`> hopefully it installs what's needed now
[11:52] <hateball> azi`: it should get you a working X environment at the very least
[11:53] <cyberalex4life> ubuntu-gnome-desktop installs full ubuntu gnome
[11:58] <lvleph> I have a problem when trying to do a dual boot of OSX and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Macbook Pro 11,4. The problem is that the EFI partition is full and thus doesn't allow me to install anything there. The issue seems to be a 180MB cache file located in EFI/Apple/Caches/. Is it safe to delete this? I tried resetting NVRAM, but this had no affect.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:07] <AQLIVE> Anone here who know how to get my windows partition working again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13350745/
[12:08] <adam__> Salve
[12:09] <AQLIVE> anyone here who know how to recover a bootpartition?
[12:10] <MeltedLux> AQLIVE: boot-repair would be the easiest way
[12:10] <MeltedLux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:10] <AQLIVE> I tried that
[12:10] <AQLIVE> and that did not holp
[12:10] <AQLIVE> I got this though http://paste.ubuntu.com/13350745/
[12:12] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: what happens when you try to boot windows?
[12:12] <unrar> hey hey
[12:13] <AQLIVE> It does not load at all. The boot loader can only see the ubuntu installation
[12:13] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, are you in ubuntu right now?
[12:14] <AQLIVE> yes
[12:14] <AQLIVE> well I'm on my mac right now
[12:14] <AQLIVE> but I have the ubuntu machine close
[12:15] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try sudo update-grub
[12:15] <EriC^^> which windows is it?
[12:15] <AQLIVE> 7
[12:15] <EriC^^> ok
[12:15] <EriC^^> give it a shot
[12:17] <AQLIVE> well another issue is that I now went from Grub to MBR and now nothing will boot. Now it want me to insert the windows 7 media and I guess I'm now 100% stuck untill I get that media right?
[12:17] <AQLIVE> og can I somehow get back into ununtu
[12:17] <EriC^^> grub to mbr?
[12:17] <AQLIVE> I used Gparted and edited the grub loader to MBR instead
[12:18] <unrar> Have you tried something like SuperGRUB Recover?
[12:18] <AQLIVE> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:18] <unrar> I use it when my MBR goes nuts and I have to boot into Ubuntu to fix everything, it's like "GRUB on a disk"
[12:18] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: what do you mean you edited the grub loader to MBR instead
[12:18] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: i dont think you have UEFI
[12:19] <unrar> check it out --> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[12:19] <AQLIVE> But is that a way - now to get back into ubuntu
[12:19] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: you can use a live usb to get into it
[12:19] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: still unclear as to what you did though..
[12:20] <unrar> What's your problem AQLIVE, you can't boot into neither Ubuntu nor Windows?
[12:20] <EriC^^> grub wasn't adding windows
[12:20] <AQLIVE> I used this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:21] <EriC^^> so he probably needed to make an entry manually, not sure what he did though
[12:21] <unrar> If that's so, use Supergrub disk to boot into Ubuntu and then run `sudo grub-install /dev/sda` and `sudo update-grub` and it'd probably be fixed.
[12:21] <unrar> Oh, I'm not familiar with UEFI stuff so I'm not sure if that'd work.
[12:21] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: you keep pasting that link, what exactly did you follow there?
[12:21] <AQLIVE> In the 6'th picture is where I made it MBR instead of Grub
[12:22] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: separate /boot/efi ?
[12:23] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: anyways, do you have a live usb?
[12:23] <AQLIVE> Yes
[12:24] <EriC^^> boot it
[12:25] <lvleph> I have a problem when trying to do a dual boot of OSX and Ubuntu 15.04 on a Macbook Pro 11,4. The problem is that the EFI partition is full and thus doesn't allow me to install anything there. The issue seems to be a 180MB cache file located in EFI/Apple/Caches/. Is it safe to delete this? I tried resetting NVRAM, but this had no affect.
[12:25] <EriC^^> lvleph: ask in a mac channel, they'd probably know more if nobody knows here
[12:26] <EriC^^> #osx i think
[12:26] <AQLIVE> Ohh fu.. I erased that too. Well I post in a couple of minutes when I have that one back
[12:26] <EriC^^> ok
[12:29] <lvleph> EriC^^: I will try that. Thanks.
[12:29] <EriC^^> np
[12:29] <ubuntu> maow
[12:32] <woodworker> hi, i have a problem after updating to 15.10, thinkpad t440p, no sound on headphone after the update
[12:32] <woodworker> internal speakers play sound
[12:32] <woodworker> i only found a open quenstion in the ubuntu community via google
[12:33] <woodworker> http://askubuntu.com/questions/694659/no-sound-in-headphones-after-upgrade-to-15-10
[12:36] <cyberalex4life> woodworker, try installing pavucontrol and play a little bit with it, see if something happens
[12:37] <cyberalex4life> woodworker, you can also do this: 'pulseaudio -k', then 'pulseaudio -v' to see if something wrong happens
[12:40] <woodworker> the volume bar is showing that something is happening on the headphone port
[12:40] <bencc1> what can I use to monitor and alert disk health in a RAID 1 setup on ubuntu server?
[12:40] <TJ-> bencc1: "man mdadm" - it can be configured to send emails
[12:42] <bencc1> TJ-: reading. thanks
[12:43] <cyberalex4life> woodworker, I am now on manjaro gnome, and I had some issues with some games in steam regarding pulseaudio, Using alsa may fix your problem. Those games were same, they appeared but had no sound. You have to debug it, maybe get an error message hopefully
[12:46] <Yaiyan> Linux still gets sound trouble?
[12:47] <MrCeeIII> Hello all,, my problem is i cannot get .wmv files to play augio on my laptop.... anyone????anyone????
[12:47] <MrCeeIII> adio
[12:47] <MrCeeIII> audio
[12:48] <noregret> MrCeeIII: which player?
[12:48] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, some codec missing maybe, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[12:49] <MrCeeIII> i have VLC.. and installed teh ubunto-restricted-extras
[12:50] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, some other player?
[12:50] <noregret> maybe your speakers are off, try turning them off and on again
[12:50] <MrCeeIII> i am willing to pay for a player if one suggest.
[12:50] <MrCeeIII> i tried mplayer too
[12:50] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, audacious for audio
[12:51] <demarco> Hello I have just upgraded to ubuntu 15.04, my sound, USB ports and wireless cards are not working. Please I need help
[12:51] <MrCeeIII> cyberalex4life: ok thanks when i get home i will try that.... question can it be found in the ubuntu software center
[12:53] <cyberalex4life> if it's not (if it is it's old usually) try the ppa from the page: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/install-audacious-35-in-ubuntu-1404-or.html
[12:53] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, did you restarted vlc after ubuntu-restricted-extras installation?
[12:57] <MrCeeIII> cyberalex4life: yes i did.... not sure i reinstalled after the extras tho... I will try the other palyer tonight... question when will you be back so i can let you know how it went?
[12:59] <storman> hi
[12:59] <storman> e
[12:59] <storman> is someone online?
[12:59] <ikonia> many people
[12:59] <Kadsh> No
[12:59] <Kadsh> or
[12:59] <storman> haha
[12:59] <Kadsh> Yes
[13:00] <storman> how are you?
[13:00] <ikonia> well, how can we help storman ?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> storman, this is ubuntu support. stay on topic. chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic. thank you.
[13:00] <storman> i don't know
[13:00] <ikonia> storman: you've joined #ubuntu an IRC channel for ubuntu linux distribution support
[13:00] <storman> ok
[13:03] <nhyk> just a quick question: under windows i have to press the "^" on the keyboard twice to get the "^^" emoticon, under ubuntu i have to press it 4 times, how do i change that? its a small issue, but it's getting annoying :D
[13:04] <Kadsh> hahaha
[13:04] <Kadsh> I don't know but I can live with it
[13:04] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, don't count on that. Anyway I use smplayer for video and youtube and audacious for audio. The thing you should try is start some players in command line playing your files
[13:06] <ikonia> nhyk: that makes no sense
[13:06] <ikonia> nhyk: a key press is a key press if you want 2 characeter, you press it 2 times, why would you need to press it 4 times
[13:06] <ikonia> are you saying it's not registering the key press ?
[13:06] <woodworker> nhyk: did you enabled us-intl keyboard schema?
[13:07] <woodworker> because there ^ is a compose charachter
[13:07] <woodworker> for writing stuff like â
[13:07] <woodworker> try to hold down right alt + the ^ key
[13:08] <MrCeeIII> cyberalex4life: rgr... thanks will try smplayer too..... and will look for you on SAT
[13:10] <cyberalex4life> MrCeeIII, ok, but being on IRC today, was an exception for me, since I have a lot of work and needed to relax, but you can look for me, maybe I'll be here
[13:10] <nhyk> ikonia, it also works if i press the "^" key and after that the space key ... or if i press the ^ key once and then a it "transforms" to â ... but i would like to have it like in windows ... press the "^" key twice, "^^" is coming up ... under ubuntu i have to press it 4 times or "^" key>space>"^"key>space to have it appear as "^^" ... sorry for my bad english btw
[13:10] <ikonia> nhyk: in what application ?
[13:11] <ikonia> or is this in generic text input windows
[13:11] <nhyk> ikonia, happens on all applications in my ubuntu
[13:11] <ikonia> very odd
[13:12] <cyberalex4life> nhyk, you could try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration' and choose another keyboard from there. I you have nothing to change, don't move to another selection on those pages.
[13:13] <cyberalex4life> this would be global keyboard selection
[13:19] <AQLIVE> ok I'm back Eric EE
[13:19] <AQLIVE> should I now install or try ubuntu?
[13:20] <nhyk> cyberalex4life, woah ... i selected "german without accent keys" on the 3rd page and now it works like in windows, you are awesome man ... i did not knew about that command. Thank you very much Sir :)
[13:21] <nhyk> the other settings i left like it was
[13:23] <nhyk> still weird ubuntu thinks i need accent keys ... i do not type swedish or something :D
[13:25] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try ubuntu
[13:26] <dym> Does anyone know why this supervisord script just exit? https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ey0JyQMB
[13:26] <arcsky> guys, sudo dpkg --remove splunk , still lots of files left after removeing it, how can i clean up everyting?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> autoremove and autoclean
[13:28] <hateball> arcsky: what do you want to clean up? apt-get purge, will murder configs etc
[13:28] <BluesKaj> or sudo apt purge splunk* , but that can be dangerous
[13:39] <nitish> Is there any good shooting game availe in ubuntu store?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !games | nitish
[13:40] <demarco> Hello I have just upgraded to ubuntu 15.04, my sound, USB ports and wireless cards are not working. Please I need help
[13:42] <zeitalex> what company stands behind linux mint?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> zeitalex, ask mint.
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !mint } zeitalex
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !mint | zeitalex
[13:43] <demarco> Hello I have just upgraded to ubuntu 15.04, my sound, USB ports and wireless cards are not working. Please I need help
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !patience | demarco,
[13:43] <cfhowlett> asking every 2 minutes is asking WAY too much ....
[13:43] <k1l_> demarco: what gives you "uname -a" and "lsusb" and "lspci" please put that into a paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[13:44] <nitish> demarco: take a look in askubuntu.
[13:45] <nitish> How can I develop applications for ubuntu? I mean which language is needed?
[13:45] <cfhowlett> nitish, many languages.
[13:45] <k1l_> nitish: "depends" :)
[13:45] <cfhowlett> !contribute | nitish
[13:46] <nitish> cfhowlett: like
[13:46] <cfhowlett> read.
[13:46] <k1l_> nitish: i would start with qt since that will be native on the "new" ubuntu (which is already on ubuntu smartphones" and will be after 16.10 on the desktop)
[13:46] <nitish> k1l_ depends upon what?
[13:46] <zebensui_ASIR> Hello
[13:46] <k1l_> nitish: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[13:46] <k1l_> nitish: depends on what you actually want to do and where it should run
[13:46] <nitish> k1l_: is "qt" a programming language?
[13:47] <k1l_> nitish: no, its a toolkit
[13:47] <k1l_> nitish: see the link to the developer site
[13:47] <nitish> k1l_: I have previous experience of java, c, c++ and php. can I use it in developing anything for ubuntu?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> nitish, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/
[13:49] <k1l_> nitish: seems that QML runs with javascript and c++
[13:50] <demarco> @K1l: please how do i access paste bin, I'm new here
[13:50] <k1l_> nitish: better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel about that
[13:50] <codeS3c> test
[13:50] <codeS3c> hello
[13:50] <cfhowlett> !test | codeS3c
[13:50] <demarco> @mitish: Ask ubuntu are just unreliable and very slow in responding to problems, I have asked this question since 2 weeks ago but got no response
[13:51] <k1l_> demarco: its like uploading a photo. copy our text, put it onto paste.ubuntu.com and then click send. you get a new link, show that here
[13:51] <codeS3c> hello all :)
[13:51] <Liza> hello
[13:52] <cfhowlett> demarco, from command line, run your command and add this text directly after the command |nc termbin.com 9999
[13:52] <persisto> Hi I have followed the instructions on killers website to get my Killer 1535 card in my laptop to work with ubuntuGNOME. The instructions I followed are here: http://www.killernetworking.com/support/knowledge-base/17-linux/20-killer-wireless-ac-in-linux-ubuntu-debian
[13:52] <persisto> I was hoping someone here can help me out
[13:52] <persisto> thanks in advance
[13:52] <codeS3c> @liza where your from ?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> persisto, so what was your question???
[13:53] <gzoo> When installing a python application via apt-get, does it also download its python dependencies? what happens after an apt-get remove?
[13:53] <demarco> okay cfhowlett
[13:53] <Liza> UAE
[13:53] <cfhowlett> codeS3c, this is ubuntu support. stay on topic or chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:53] <persisto> How do I get my Killer 1535 working under UbuntuGNOME
[13:53] <persisto> sorry i wasn't more clear
[13:53] <demarco> okay K1l
[13:54] <Liza> how to access sqlserver from ubuntu os
[13:54] <Liza> any aidea
[13:55] <demarco> @K1L and cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365589/
[13:57] <k1l_> demarco: so its a 15.10 and not a 15.04, right? (lsb_release -d gives the right version number)
[13:59] <demarco> its 15.04
[13:59] <demarco> i down graded to 15.04
[13:59] <demarco> from 15.10 cos 15.10 sucks seriously
[13:59] <k1l_> demarco: oh well, downgrades dont work on ubuntu
[13:59] <k1l_> demarco: you now have an awfull mix there
[13:59] <demarco> 15.10 kept on giving me black screen and so so slow
[14:00] <demarco> i mean i did fresh installation
[14:00] <demarco> so what do I do k1l
[14:00] <k1l_> demarco: i doubt that. you got the 15.10 kernel there
[14:01] <TJ-> demarco: can you show us "ls -l /boot/"
[14:01] <demarco> so how can we fix the situation k1l? I really don't like 15.10, it crashes all the time and to slow, so is there a way to resolve this issue
[14:01] <RafasnbBR> how to install ubuntu 15.10 vm in parallels 10 for mac? https://t.co/sTy3brDCdH
[14:02] <cfhowlett> !mac | RafasnbBR
[14:03] <k1l_> demarco: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image " in a pastebin please
[14:03] <RafasnbBR> ubottu: installing using parallels is not possible... many errors
[14:04] <cfhowlett> RafasnbBR, see the mac link I already sent you
[14:06] <k1l_> RafasnbBR: well it runs in other virtualisation managers like vbox, vmware etc. so it might be parallels task to solve that :/
[14:06] <demarco> @k1L: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365678/
[14:06] <k1l_> demarco: reboot then
[14:07] <k1l_> demarco: you run a 4.2 kernel but that is not installed. something is heavily wrong on your system
[14:07] <demarco> k1L; you mean i should reboot now
[14:07] <RafasnbBR> k1l_: parallels have failed support...
[14:07] <carlos_> server irc.explosionrc.net
[14:08] <carlos_> server irc.explosionirc.net
[14:08] <cfhowlett> carlos_, no spam thank you
[14:08] <k1l_> demarco: can you explain why you run a 4.2 kernel (the one from 15.10) while there is none 4.2 installed and you say its a brand new 15.04 system?
[14:08] <k1l_> carlos_: irc commands start with a /
[14:08] <demarco> 4.2 kernel is for 15.10 which was initially installed, then i reinstalled ubuntu using 15.04
[14:09] <k1l_> demarco: i think you missuse the "reinstall" here. reinstall meaning using a 15.04.iso and formating the disk and installing a 15.04.
[14:11] <demarco> k1L: what i did was to reinstall using 15.04 iso image, without losing my files
[14:12] <k1l_> demarco: can you show a "ls -al /boot" in a pastebin?
[14:12] <demarco> I already have files on the 15.10, so I just reinstalled 15.04 on the 15.10 OS, to over write it
[14:12] <demarco> okay will do that now sir
[14:12] <kang__> 嗨
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !cn | kang__
[14:13] <kang__> 你们好
[14:13] <kang__> I'm in China
[14:13] <demarco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365723/
[14:13] <cfhowlett> kang__, yes I kind of figured that out.
[14:13] <kang__> Arevyou OK?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> kang__, do this: /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:14] <demarco> @k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365723/
[14:14] <Tashtari> Hm... anyone know how the [999999.999999] timestamps ubuntu's console uses can be translated to something readable?
[14:14] <k1l_> demarco: so there is the issue. you still got a lot of 15.10 files and stuff in your system. like the old 15.10 kernel 4.2 and since your system doesnt know that is installed but the grub is using that since its installed, you have a mixed system now.
[14:15] <cfhowlett> demarco, wouldn't hurt to clean out most of those old kernels
[14:15] <k1l_> demarco: that is the reason why we dont support downgrades (you did a downgrade and not a clean install)
[14:16] <k1l_> demarco: you can try to remove those old kernels (everything that is not 3.19) and then reboot.
[14:17] <demarco> how will i do that guys, please help
[14:17] <demarco> i dont want to lose my current files
[14:17] <cfhowlett> http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[14:17] <TJ-> k1l_: if it's a separate /boot/ that would be expected though; demarco can you show us "pastebinit <( mount )" ?
[14:17] <demarco> k1l: how do I remove everything sir
[14:18] <k1l_> cfhowlett: that doesnt work since his downgraded 15.04 now only knows about th 3.19 kernels packagewise
[14:18] <demarco> TJ i have two partitions
[14:18] <demarco> okay let me do it
[14:19] <TJ-> demarco: if there's a separate partition for a /boot/ file-system, and when you run the installer you choose NOT to format that /boot/ FS, then what we see there is expected. The reason the system boots with the 4.2 kernel is update-grub scripts use the latest kernel version as the default GRUB menuentry
[14:19] <demarco> @TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365777/
[14:20] <k_sze> Has anybody successfully installed and booted Ubuntu 15.10 Desktop 64-bit in VirtualBox on a Mac OS X host?
[14:20] <k_sze> Hi TJ-, heh
[14:20] <dqn> hey, anyone knows what the purpose of ~/.Mix/ is (or where it could have come from if it isn't in raw ubuntu)?
[14:20] <demarco> yeah, i have two partitions, and get asked to choose where to boot from
[14:20] <k_sze> I can't get my Ubuntu VM to boot.
[14:20] <demarco> i am running 14.10 and 15.04 currently
[14:21] <TJ-> demarco: OK, the system doesn't have a separate /boot/ file-system according to that - not mounted anyhow, so can you do "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print )" please
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !14.10 | demarco
[14:22] <k_sze> A bit into the booting process, the Ubuntu VM seems to want to switch screen resolution a couple of times (the VirtualBox window should change size several times), and then nothing.
[14:23] <gjeet> Hello! Any Google Code In mentors online?
[14:23] <demarco> @TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365806/
[14:23] <k_sze> oh wait, it's just wonky
[14:23] <demarco> @sorry meant 14.04
[14:23] <cfhowlett> msdos table? seriously? not on ubuntu!
[14:24] <demarco> @ubottu: meant 14.04
[14:24] <TJ-> demarco: and now "pastebinit <( sudo lsblk -f )" please
[14:26] <conformist> hello
[14:26] <conformist> или тут по-русски тоже можно?
[14:26] <demarco> @TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365832/
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !ru | conformist
[14:27] <hathway> eae
[14:29] <TJ-> demarco: All that seems to suggest you didn't reformat the file-system in /dev/sda1 when you install from the ISO installers, which means files from different Ubuntu releases are blindly over-writing existing files. The fact that /dev/sda1/boot/ contains so many different kernel versions confirms what k1l_ said earlier; the system is in a mess
[14:30] <demarco> so is it the reason why my sound, wireless and usb are not working in 15.04 partition but working in 14.04?
[14:30] <TJ-> demarco: if you want to retain your per-user files and configuration have a separate file-system for /home/, and if you want to boot multiple releases have a separate /boot/.
[14:30] <demarco> the system is okay and fine, except for my voice, wireless and usb @TJ
[14:30] <TJ-> demarco: that is NOT 'okay and fine' when such major parts are broken!
[14:31] <demarco> okay i understand TJ, the only issue i have is with sound, wireless and my usb ports, can it be resolved please ?
[14:31] <TJ-> demarco: if you have any personal files in $HOME/ or elsewhere I'd recommend backing them up to either another partition, or another device, then reinstalling cleanly into /dev/sda1
[14:31] <TJ-> demarco: yes. install cleanly.
[14:34] <demarco> okay TJ, can I shrink my drive and allocate more partition to my 14.04...so I will transfer all my files to 14.04 partition and just delete 15.04
[14:34] <demarco> i think its easier that way
[14:35] <cfhowlett> demarco, LTS generally leads to far fewer heartbreaks. bleeding edges are bloody
[14:35] <TJ-> demarco: drives cannot be shrunk :) And I'd recommend against trying to shrink an existing file-system and partition, you'll break it more
[14:37] <demarco> but that was how i partitioned the 14.04
[14:37] <demarco> okay TJ
[14:38] <TJ-> demarco: if it were me and wanted to use multiple releases, I'd have partitioned the drive with 3 primary partitions: 1. /boot/ = 1GB, 2. swap = 4GB, 3 = the remaining space. Then I'd assign sda3 to an LVM VG, and create LVs within it for the various releases, so I could easily assign/grow/shrink/re-assign disk space to the various releases, and have separate /home/ LV shared amongst them
[14:39] <TJ-> demarco: but as you know have a fixed partition drive, you need to put a clean install in /dev/sda1, which means backing up all the important files, configurations, and programs you have there, to another location. If there isn't space in the 14.04 file-system you'll need an external device (maybe a USB mass storage device)
[14:40] <TJ-> s/know have/now have/
[14:41] <demarco> but my USB ports are not working?
[14:41] <TJ-> demarco: do it from the 14.04 install
[14:42] <TJ-> demarco: mount /dev/sda1 inside that to access the files
[14:42] <demarco> 14.04 cannot detect all the files in 15,.04
[14:42] <demarco> thats the issue
[14:42] <TJ-> demarco: errr, that makes no sense.
[14:42] <demarco> can I manually mount the external drive via terminal
[14:43] <TJ-> demarco: I have to leave now; others can give further advice on accessing files
[14:44] <demarco> okay thanks TJ
[14:48] <donguston> Is there a way to create a "fake" screen of any resolution I want?
[14:48] <donguston> I dont have one physically connected, but want to use nx to get remote desktop
[14:53] <debug0x1> donguston: Use virtualbox? Add a fake screen?
[14:54] <donguston> debug0x1, ubntu is already on the computer though
[14:54] <debug0x1> image it and port to a vm if you really want it- i guess?
[14:55] <donguston> theres no way to make x11 think thres a screen there?
[14:55] <donguston> there is no physical screen connected to it
[14:57] <ookOok> hi! my xubuntu uname (4.2.6) does not connect to the bluetooth speaker. it gives the eirror : device succuesfully added but failed to connect
[15:00] <jireh2009> hi
[15:00] <jireh2009> is anyone online?
[15:01] <yuriy_> Hello
[15:01] <HackerII> all 1822.00 of us are sleeping
[15:01] <yuriy_> i want to reinstall my kubuntu from scratch
[15:01] <yuriy_> i tried to run install from live CD, but it fails start
[15:01] <yuriy_> it shows something like job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces.
[15:01] <yuriy_> what can i do to run process?
[15:02] <yuriy_> pls help
[15:02] <cfhowlett> yuriy_, disconnect from the internet, install
[15:02] <yuriy_> yes, simply?
[15:02] <jireh2009> is there any one who can help me
[15:02] <cfhowlett> but first md5sum your .iso and your usb
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | yuriy_
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !ask | jireh2009,
[15:03] <yuriy_> ok, thanks - i'll try to checksum
[15:03] <yuriy_> i made shasum on iso file after downloading, it was correct
[15:04] <jireh2009> i have a problem on my lxle ..... im receiving a error from ubuntu software center i cant install apps coz there is no authentication
[15:04] <cfhowlett> yuriy_, AND the usb
[15:04] <cfhowlett> lxle is not supported here
[15:04] <cfhowlett> !lxle | jireh2009
[15:04] <jireh2009> ahh ok ... sorry.. but is XUBUNTU supported here
[15:04] <jireh2009> ?
[15:05] <cfhowlett> jireh2009, yes but you don't use xubuntu so go to lxle for support
[15:05] <k1l_> jireh2009: its about lxle to sort their mess. please install a real ubuntu or one of the official flavors if you want support in here
[15:06] <jireh2009> thankyou
[15:06] <momomo> anyone else has any issues with minimizing windows and then getting incorrect mouse clicks for windows?
[15:06] <momomo> when is ubuntu going to adress this issue!?
[15:07] <tinyhippo> momomo: nope
[15:07] <momomo> tinyhippo, i believe everyone has this problem
[15:08] <momomo> tinyhippo, try CTRL + D
[15:08] <cfhowlett> momomo, everyone? false.
[15:08] <momomo> ( minimize all )
[15:08] <momomo> then bring up a window
[15:08] <tinyhippo> momomo: might be a unity thing, that has no affect on Gnome3
[15:08] <momomo> click on a small icon or link
[15:08] <momomo> tinyhippo, ofcourse it's a unity thing
[15:08] <donguston> also debug0x1 I need to run a VM or 2 on that server for my development stuff
[15:09] <momomo> tinyhippo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1306550
[15:09] <k1l_> momomo: can you describe the issue precisely? in one message? is there a bug already?
[15:09] <debug0x1> donguston: you got me there.
[15:09] <debug0x1> Let me know if you run into something.
[15:10] <momomo> k1l_, yes, mimimze a window using ctrl + D or ctrl + m .. then open up that window again
[15:10] <momomo> click on a small link and see how it misses
[15:10] <HackerII> momomo, what does ctrl+alt+tab do
[15:11] <k1l_> momomo: in that bug someone tells hes using elementary. so might be a gnome3 issue?
[15:11] <momomo> k1l_, i am using unity
[15:11] <k1l_> momomo: unity runs on the gnome3 base.
[15:11] <momomo> HackerII, i am not sure, why? i don't have that binding unfortunately
[15:11] <momomo> k1l_, do you have that problem ?
[15:11] <HackerII> ok, its a compiz window selector
[15:12] <momomo> tinyhippo, seemed to suggests he didnt have this problem
[15:12] <momomo> HackerII, its the same
[15:12] <HackerII> kk
[15:12] <momomo> HackerII, actually, it fixes the problem .. but I already do that by maximizing the window when it occurs
[15:13] <HackerII> thought so
[15:13] <momomo> HackerII, the problem is athat I am not always swithing from a minimized window to show using compiz...
[15:13] <HackerII> its a compiz big i think
[15:13] <HackerII> bug
[15:13] <momomo> but i have a keybinding for bringing certain windows up if minizmed ( in fact, the stack switcher won't show these )
[15:14] <k1l_> momomo: are you sure about ctrl+d and not super+d?
[15:14] <momomo> k1l_, yes, super + d
[15:14] <momomo> or super + m ... i have different keyboard seetyp
[15:14] <momomo> get confused
[15:15] <momomo> this problem has existed for a good two years
[15:15] <momomo> it's about time
[15:15] <k1l_> neither super+d nor super+m work on 15.10 for me :)
[15:16] <k1l_> super+m is the music-scope
[15:16] <momomo> k1l_, you can click on mimize on the window
[15:16] <ioria> for me works (Unity 14.04) ctrl+Super+D
[15:16] <momomo> but it has to be maximied
[15:16] <yuriy_> cfhowlett - "sha256sum /dev/sr0" shows than showed here http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[15:17] <wesley_> anybody on Ubuntu Mate?
[15:17] <momomo> HackerII, i don't thin kit's a compiz bug, since compiz involvement fixes the problem
[15:17] <yuriy_> sorry, i mean different to
[15:17] <momomo> it's when unity or other program does it by itself... without compiz
[15:17] <k1l_> momomo: no bug for me on 15.10
[15:17] <yuriy_> so my live cd has another hash
[15:18] <cfhowlett> yuriy_, then it's no good.
[15:18] <momomo> k1l_, maximize a window, then click on minimize .. then click on icon .. then try to hover an icon on the browser .. or some other small icon
[15:18] <yuriy_> but before i record, iso file shown it as there
[15:18] <momomo> k1l_, no problem still?
[15:18] <k1l_> momomo: no, works for me on 15.10
[15:18] <dami0> hi, where would i go to check ssh logins into my computer? auth.log doesn't have these it seems
[15:19] <yuriy_> so that's pb related to dvd-r?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> yuriy_, could be. why you not use USB?
[15:19] <k1l_> momomo: tested with chromium and thunderbird. 15.10. but dual monitor setup on intel video
[15:20] <yuriy_> old habit to install OSs from CD
[15:20] <k1l_> momomo: but i think i had that issue in the past around ubuntu on14.10 or such. but now i am thinking about i dont had that since some time. so might be fixed in 15.10
[15:20] <momomo> k1l_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1306550
[15:21] <momomo> k1l_, how do you best upgrade to 15 without ubuntu screwing up everything ?
[15:21] <k1l_> momomo: i had no upgraade issue in years on ubuntu. but i tend to not use tons of PPAs for video drivers or other stuff.
[15:22] <GladiaTeur> hello guys where i can get proftpd help
[15:23] <momomo> i got logged out, did i miss anyehting ?
momomo: i had no upgraade issue in years on ubuntu. but i tend to not use tons of PPAs for video drivers or other stuff.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> k1 xedger ppas are ok for the current kernel, the next kernel update sometimes borks the system
[15:24] <momomo> k1l_, can you try to turn on the static application switcher, maybe thast's what causing it
[15:24] <truexfan81> ubuntu has nice reliability give or take a few not so stable 3rd party PPA's
[15:25] <skinux> Do Unity apps work on other distributions of Linux or Ubuntu only?
[15:38] <truexfan81> skinux: if you install unity on that distro of course
[15:39] <truexfan81> i'm looking forward to the next batch of updates for the lts, i just setup my sources.list to use the apt mirrors
[15:40] <skinux> truefanx: And how many install Unity without using Ubuntu? I've read a lot of back and forth as to whether Unity is good. I personally like it.
[15:41] <skinux> Here's a dumb question....can Unity app support be installed on Windows?
[15:41] <truexfan81> skinux: perhaps we should go to -offtopic? discussing other distros is a bit offtopic for this channel
[15:41] <krcevina> Hi. When writing or reading from/to disk via samba, i.e. from another PC, is DMA used during the writing/reading operation?
[15:41] <skinux> Ahh.
[15:41] <skinux> I'll talk about it in #linux
[15:41] <k1l_> skinux: the issue is, that you need to patch a lot of gnome files for using unity. and on non-ubuntu systems its hard to maintain that patches because its a lot of work. so most other distributions dont ship unity.
[15:42] <skinux> What is so different about Unity apps versus non-Unity apps?
[15:42] <k1l_> apps?
[15:42] <skinux> I mean Unity IS Gnome but with no top-panel menus and having the left-side panel
[15:43] <cfhowlett> unity is absolutely not gnome
[15:43] <skinux> Well, when I read about Unity it said Unity was built on top of Gnome
[15:43] <k1l_> skinux: unity is another gnome-shell. but instead of the gnome-shell (which most people call gnome3) its not using mutter but compiz. and got another arangement of panel and indicators.
[15:43] <truexfan81> kinda funny tho, inxi -Sx on unity says its using GTK2 lol
[15:44] <skinux> Oh...Gnome-Shell
[15:44] <skinux> Right..Gnome-Shell isn't Gnome desktop
[15:44] <k1l_> skinux: sure it is
[15:44] <zaggynl> Why is the username on the ubuntu livecd "it" ?
[15:44] <skinux> I have another question. I dual-booted Ubuntu with Windows a couple months ago. Unfortunately, it didn't install GRUB right so there is no boot option for it.
[15:45] <skinux> I booted live USB, mounted Ubuntu's partition and installed GRUB, but that didn't fix it.
[15:45] <truexfan81_> System: Host ubuntu Kernel 3.19.0-33-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc 4.8.2)
[15:45] <truexfan81_> Desktop Gnome (Gtk 2.24.23) Distro Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[15:45] <truexfan81_> see ^^^ totally does not detect that i'm using unity
[15:45] <k1l_> we have the gnome3 basis. on that there run shells. one shell is "gnome-shell" which most people call gnome3. then there is the unity shell. and now we have even cinnamon as a shell on the gnome3 basis.
[15:46] <skinux> Trusty is old, is it not?
[15:46] <truexfan81_> trusty is the current lts
[15:46] <k1l_> trusty is the 14.04 lts. still 3 years in support
[15:47] <skinux> Oh, okay.
[15:47] <skinux> I believe I had installed 15.xx
[15:48] <roddersg> join #clementine
[15:49] <wmorri> skinux, you can use the lsb_release -a to find out
[15:49] <skinux> To find out what?
[15:49] <wmorri> sorry i just read that wong.
[15:49] <wmorri> wrong
[15:49] <skinux> Too bad IRC clients don't detect misspellings eh?
[15:49] <wmorri> yes
[15:50] <skinux> You would think by now they would be including that in IRC clients.
[15:50] <truexfan81> hexchat has spell check if you install the deps
[15:50] <skinux> I don't know how to install any HexChat dep in Windows
[15:50] <skinux> You mean an extension?
[15:50] <truexfan81> do a custom install, then scroll down the list, its in the installer somewhere
[15:51] <skinux> Oh.
[15:51] <skinux> Would I have to first uninstall HexChat or can it over-write my current installation?
[15:52] <skinux> Wait..why am I asking that in here.
[15:52] <skinux> I just checked that I have the latest HexChat version installed
[15:52] <truexfan81> yeah the ops will fuss if we keep going
[15:53] <EriC^^> skinux: are you having boot issues?
[15:53] <skinux> With Ubuntu, yes.
[15:53] <skinux> When it installed, it didn't add a boot entry to Windows boot menu, but didn't put GRUB into place either, so I can't boot it.
[15:54] <truexfan81> ooh i know easy fix for that
[15:54] <skinux> I tried installing GRUB using Live USB, but it didn't fix it.
[15:54] <truexfan81> grab the ubuntu boot repair iso
[15:54] <skinux> I also tried using EasyBCD for Windows, but to no avail
[15:54] <truexfan81> boot to it, and let it install grub for you
[15:55] <skinux> I might have already tried that
[15:55] <EriC^^> skinux: boot a live usb
[15:55] <truexfan81> try it again, it should work eventually
[15:55] <EriC^^> and come back here
[15:55] <truexfan81> ubuntu boot repair never failed me
[15:55] <user__> hi guys, how to search for a package through apt-get? I did apt-get cache cowsay, but I cant find something related
[15:56] <jireh2009_> i fix my own by editing the grub.cfg
[15:56] <skinux> Hmm. Well, I've only got one USB to use for that which already has Ubuntu install on it.
[15:56] <EriC^^> user__: apt-cache search something
[15:56] <skinux> So I'll have to install repair iso using Live and try it that way.
[15:56] <EriC^^> skinux: can you boot that usb?
[15:56] <user__> EriC^^: of course, thank you
[15:56] <jireh2009_> is ubuntu can run from a flashdrive ?
[15:56] <skinux> Actually...wait...I did that already. But I guess I can try it again.
[15:56] <cfhowlett> jireh2009_, yes
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !usb | jireh2009_
[15:56] <skinux> I installed Ubuntu from a Live boot on USB
[15:57] <user__> jireh2009_: yes yes, ubuntu can run from flash drive
[15:57] <truexfan81> for some reason i never can remember apt-cache search i always end up just installing aptitude and using aptitude search then let apt-get install it lol
[15:58] <jireh2009_> hmm.. now my study will not be bother..
[15:59] <KULD> install ubuntu from usb is very easy
[15:59] <wmorri> truexfan81, you can always look at the man page.
[15:59] <KULD> i did it, too on my ASUS Eee PC
[16:00] <ktchk> ubuntu 10.04 I had used the Remastersys to reinstall the whole system and applications.
[16:00] <truexfan81> wmorri: no worries, installing aptitude is simple and fast enough lol
[16:01] <rubens_> Boa tarde! como faço para instalar o Mysql no Ubuntu
[16:01] <cfhowlett> !br | rubens_
[16:04] <rubens_> no terminal
[16:06] <KULD> does somebody know a programme with which I can program g code? For CNC
[16:06] <ktchk> heekscnc
[16:08] <KULD> thank you...
[16:18] <kilde> can anyone help me get my scanner working please? Brother MFC-6490cw Ubuntu 14.04
[16:22] <wmorri> kilde, start with this and see if it help http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfc6490cw_all
[16:23] <truexfan81> wow nice they provide a deb package
[16:24] <boozler> Anyone here have much experience with the kangaroo mini pc or Intel Atom processors? How well could they run a virtual machine?
[16:25] <truexfan81> intel atom doesn't have virtualization so any vm would be quite slow
[16:25] <inthl> I have some very annoying issue on a laptop of a friend, trying to install ubuntu 15.10. now all 2 CPUs (cores) have over 2GHz, but /proc/cpuinfo is constantly showing 122.xyz Mhz
[16:25] <inthl> no matter what I do, the system operates slowly and these 122 are not getting higher under any circumstances, 123 tops
[16:26] <inthl> I read something about intel ppc stuff there, but I could not fix that according to several tutorials, they had no effect there. Any ideas perhaps?
[16:27] <boozler> truexfan81, understood. Thank you
[16:27] <nicomachus> inthl: what does cpufreq-info show?
[16:28] <inthl> there is no such binary
[16:28] <inthl> I am on the live distro
[16:28] <kilde> wmorri: I have it downloaded, followed the instructions, nothing:( I have xsane and simple scan
[16:29] <inthl> there is no binary named cpu* ...available are e.g. cp, cpan, cpgr, cpio...but nothing with cpu*
[16:29] <inthl> I am in a terminal, as root
[16:29] <nicomachus> !info cpufreq-info
[16:29] <syntroPi> !info cpufrequtils
[16:31] <nitish> How can I update vlc to the latest version? current version installed in my ubuntu is 2.1.4. I want to update to 2.2.1
[16:31] <nicomachus> thre it is. thanks syntroPi. inthl: install cpufrequtils and then check cpufreq-info.
[16:31] <nicomachus> then if the frequency is off you can set it with cpufreq-set
[16:32] <inthl> well how to install it. the iso does not seem to provide it. and setting up network with such a low cpuspeed will definitely take a while
[16:32] <nicomachus> inthl: should be able to do "apt-get install cpufrequtils"
[16:32] <inthl> however, honestly, that sounds like some really nasty bug and/or issue - there must be some user-friendly solution for this?
[16:32] <nicomachus> but you may have to enable the component universe in your software sources.
[16:32] <inthl> that apt-command says ...cpufrequitls has no installation candidate
[16:33] <inthl> so I'd need to add sources.
[16:33] <nicomachus> yes, enable the component universe in your software sources
[16:33] <inthl> how do I disable compiz via keyboard shortcuts? I believe that this would at least help me setting that up
[16:34] <inthl> obviously compiz consumes lots of cpu when active, every GUI-stuff works like 0.5FPS
[16:34] <wmorri> kilde, have a look at this thread from the ubuntu forums. It seems to have a solution. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1988296&s=05cf421a75f971f34143dbdc2dd65217&p=11973198#post11973198
[16:35] <nitish> how to update vlc?
[16:35] <syntroPi> !info vlc | nitish
[16:36] <syntroPi> nitish, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:36] <nitish> syntroPi: 14.04 lts
[16:36] <syntroPi> hmm
[16:36] <truexfan81> to get latest you would likely have to add a PPA or compile from source
[16:37] <nitish> syntroPi: i have vlc 2.1.4 installed. I need to install 2.2.1
[16:37] <nicomachus> nitish: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/releases/2.2.1.html
[16:37] <truexfan81> i may try to compile vlc from source on 14.04 just cause i've not compiled it in forever lol
[16:38] <ikonia> not really the best reason
[16:38] <truexfan81> lol
[16:38] <truexfan81> i don't actually use vlc, so i don't really have a better reason
[16:38] <wmorri> nitish, add the ppa:mc3man/trusty-media and then update and install vlc
[16:39] <syntroPi> but always be aware you trust the ppa owner with root rights on your box...
[16:39] <ikonia> then don't do it
[16:39] <chinesesausage> hi syntroPi
[16:39] <nitish> nicomachus: wmorri: how to add ppa for vlc?
[16:39] <truexfan81> ikonia: what about being bored and having a vm to play with? is that a better reason? :P
[16:40] <wmorri> nitish, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mc3man/trusty-media
[16:41] <inthl> okay, assuming I do fix this some way, how would I make it permanently, e.g. after a reboot? there must be some solution for dummies? all the stuff required to solve this is really on a g33k-level, one can not seriously expect for the average user to be able to fix that?
[16:41] <wmorri> nitish, everything is found here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/105587/how-to-update-vlc-to-the-latest-version
[16:41] <syntroPi> nitish, you also could try to download the sources from wiley, install build dependecies and compile vlc yourself...
[16:41] <chinesesausage> speaking of ppa, how do you ppa-purge if you do not have a ppa? I only have the lines included in lines " /etc/apt/sources.list" file
[16:42] <EriC^^> chinesesausage: what are the lines?
[16:42] <nitish> wmorrisyntroPi: i think its too complicated to compile.
[16:42] <EriC^^> chinesesausage: man ppa-purge has info about that
[16:42] <syntroPi> nitish, then go with the most trustworthy ppa you could find for it
[16:42] <chinesesausage> I want to ppa-purge Trinity Desktop Environment from my OS
[16:43] <chinesesausage> I only have the lines included in sources.list file
[16:43] <chinesesausage> i.e. deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/ubuntu trusty main
[16:43] <nicomachus> inthl: if the man pages on those packages are above your tech level, you probably shouldn't be messing with CPU frequencies.
[16:44] <chinesesausage> I want to purge everything that was installed with de TDE
[16:44] <Sargun> 6
[16:45] <nitish> wmorri: ppa added for vlc. what next?
[16:46] <truexfan81> nitish: sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:47] <inthl> nicomachus, they are not above MY but above the laptop's owner. not messing with this would mean leave it at 122Mhz.
[16:47] * truexfan81 goes to create a new 14.04 vm for a few experiments
[16:47] <inthl> so in fact my smartphone would run this faster than the 950 pentium
[16:48] <wmorri> chinesesausage, you can just run sudo ppa_purge ppa_name.
[16:48] <chinesesausage> thanks wmorri, I am going to try that :)
[16:49] <wmorri> chinesesausage, you will need to use sudo apt-get purge package_name to uninstall the package.
[16:49] <chinesesausage> ok
[16:49] <nitish> truexfan81: updated. now how to update vlc?
[16:50] <inthl> I've got cpufrequ
[16:50] <truexfan81> nitish: sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:50] <inthl> -info says: CPU frequency is 123Mhz (assertet by call to hardware)
[16:50] <truexfan81> nitish: that will update all your vlc related stuff to the ppa version
[16:50] <inthl> hardware limits: 800 - 2100 Mhz
[16:50] <syntroPi> inthl, what does "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor" say on your system?
[16:51] <hampirpunah> Sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:51] <hampirpunah> Sudo apt-get update
[16:51] <nitish> truexfan81: I am wondering that how much data will be needed to upgrade
[16:51] <truexfan81> nitish: it will tell you when it asks you to confirm that you want to do it
[16:52] <nitish> truexfan81: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade was alerting for 380 mb. My net speed is not enough for that.
[16:52] <inthl> performance, but that was after I set it manually to performance via cat .. >, but before that it was powersafe
[16:52] <oaulakh> anyone know what problem is with pulse audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/13368405/
[16:52] <truexfan81> nitish: dist-upgrade is not needed for vlc
[16:53] <chinesesausage> wmorri, for example: "sudo ppa-purge kubuntu-default-settings-trinity" ?
[16:53] <oaulakh> and my microphone is not working either
[16:53] <wmorri> chinesesausage, if that is the name of the ppa then yes
[16:54] <nitish> truexfan81: ok i will run sudo apt-get upgrade. but how to update vlc after it?
[16:54] <BottomNotch> I'm having an issue with the android SDK manager. for some of the packages I'm getting an error. Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known
[16:54] <syntroPi> inthl, so the governor is performance and the cpu frequency is still 122 MHz?
[16:54] <chinesesausage> no, I do not have have a ppa for that. I installed it by adding the sources
[16:54] <truexfan81> nitish: you won't have to, the apt-get upgrade is going to update your vlc for you
[16:54] <chinesesausage> and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings-trinity
[16:54] <inthl> yes
[16:55] <inthl> I wonder about that, since cpufreq-info says that the range is 800-2100 anyways, but it is 122-123mhz all the time and works somewhat slow all the time
[16:55] <wmorri> chinesesausage, if you just added the sources you can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and then run a purge for the program.
[16:56] <nitish> truexfan81: sudo apt-get upgrade is showing Need to get 416 MB of archives. unable to provide such data :(
[16:56] <oaulakh> anyone know what problem is with pulse audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/13368405/
[16:56] <syntroPi> inthl, indeed weird behaviour. maybe a thorough investigation of the output of dmesg could hint where the problem is?
[16:56] <truexfan81> nitish: ok try sudo apt-get install vlc, see what it says
[16:56] <iceroot> inthl: sounds like you have a laptop which is not connected to the power line, then the cpu is putting on the energy safe mode
[16:57] <chinesesausage> ok. Will that remove all of the software TDE added? i.e. Kaffeine, LibreOffice, etc. ?
[16:57] <nitish> truexfan81: sudo apt-get install vlc is asking for 10 mb. Will it be update after it.
[16:57] <inthl> it is connected by wire. but dmesg states: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled
[16:57] <inthl> I wonder how overheating could occur at 122mhz.
[16:57] <truexfan81> nitish: it should yeah
[16:58] <syntroPi> inthl, try cleaning it carefully with a vacuum cleaner to suck out any dust of it
[16:58] <nitish> ok.
[16:58] <inthl> and yes, the CPU appears to be hot, the fan is working
[16:58] <HackerII> use a can of air, not a vacuum, el oh el
[16:59] <BluesKaj> I use both
[16:59] <nitish> can anyone tell me that how can I configure cyberoam in ubuntu?
[17:00] <inthl> this is way too weird. a how cpu, at 122mhz, a working fan, still remains hot, still at 122mhz
[17:00] <HackerII> inthl, check htop to see whats eating it up
[17:00] <inthl> nothing?
[17:00] <HackerII> graphics are ok ?
[17:00] <inthl> top itself consumes 40% of cpu, since obviously the frequency is just 122mhz
[17:01] <inthl> yes, everything else is completely fine
[17:01] <oaulakh> i duno why my ubuntu settings not showing somehow :(
[17:01] <HackerII> huh, maybe at 122mhz the fan isnt running at high speed
[17:01] <chinesesausage> ok wmorri, I did a "sudo apt-get kubuntu-default-settings-trinity* kubuntu-desktop-trinity*" and it will remove those two apps. For the rest apparently a "sudo apt-get autoremove" will do
[17:02] <syntroPi> inthl, you could watch cpu temp with lm-sensors http://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature
[17:02] <cgs_bob> hello all. I'm trying to upgrade to 15.04, but the "Distribution Upgrade" program is no longer responding. What can I do now?
[17:02] <inthl> well, whatever. I have an unusable machine here, and atm it is the live system, the installation takes 1 hour here just to break at the end because of http://askubuntu.com/questions/499845/ubiquity-appears-to-hang-installing-dual-boot-osx - a similar error, but it is about ms windows. there is as usual a software requirement which forces that guy to have windows installed.
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> cgs_bob what version are you in, now... cat /etc/issue
[17:03] <syntroPi> inthl, even if the fan works if it wouldnt provide airflow it cant cool the cpu hence my suggestion to remove dust
[17:03] <inthl> syntroPi, I'd have to install lm-sensors as well, no binary here. that could take a while again
[17:03] <inthl> there is air flow, I can feel heat blowing out pretty much good
[17:03] <wildc4rd> is there any reason my resolution might not work properly? running a 1920 x 1080 monitor, but if I change to that resolution in settings its 'off the edge of the screen', at 1680 x 1050 it seems to work OK
[17:03] <wmorri> chinesesausage, okay
[17:04] <oaulakh> i duno why my ubuntu settings not showing somehow :(
[17:05] <cgs_bob> MonkeyDust: this is strange. it says "Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l"
[17:06] <wmorri> oaulakh, are you talking about your settings panel?
[17:06] <oaulakh> yes
[17:06] <nitish> I am using Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. Is there any latest version than this of 14.04 lts?
[17:07] <truexfan81> nitish: if you were to be able to do apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade after a reboot you would be running 14.04.3
[17:07] <wmorri> oaulakh, are you using unity, gnome-shell, kde?
[17:07] <zlude> Hello! I'm trying to use gsmsendsms over ubuntu 14.04, however I can't find which /dev/??? is mine usb smartphone running on. How can I figure out?
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> cgs_bob then do-release-upgrade should upgrade to 15.10... but it's very slow
[17:07] <oaulakh> when i remove pulseaudio and alsa-base to get working my microphone after i dunno what happen it make uninstall many other packages too, so now i cant install pulseaudio and can't even open my ubuntu settings
[17:07] <oaulakh> unity
[17:08] <nitish> truexfan81: whats the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:08] <BottomNotch> I'm having an issue with the android SDK manager. for some of the packages I'm getting an error. Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known
[17:08] <truexfan81> nitish: apt-get dist-upgrade installs the newer linux kernels, and other packages that apt-get upgrade holds back
[17:09] <L3ows> Hello Guys
[17:09] <nitish> truefan81: what should be done first? upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[17:09] <breadmonster> Hey. I've got a Lubuntu ISO. How do I burn it to a flash drive?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> breadmonster use disk-creator or unetbootin
[17:10] <breadmonster> I'm on Fedora 23, so the Universal USB installer won't work.
[17:10] <cgs_bob> MonkeyDust: so should I kill the "Distribution Upgrade" program and try your method? like I said this program seems to be hosed. I just see a blank window
[17:10] <truexfan81> nitish: i tend to do upgrade first then dist-upgrade
[17:10] <darkhawk> Hey Guys, running 15.10-x64 on a lenovo thinkpad t450s with intel vga. 2 external monitors (Eizo 23" fullhd), conected by displayport and dvi, booting up the system and everything is fine...dual monitor is running.....after pressing the windowskey+L for locking screen (or clicking in the right corner on lock screen) both screens went black....after some time...a minute or 30 seconds i come back and log-in again only one external monitor is coming
[17:10] <L3ows> apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:10] <nitish> truefan81: will there would be any bad effect to my currently instlled program?
[17:10] <breadmonster> MonkeyDust: I'm on Fedora.
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> breadmonster then ask in the fedora channel
[17:10] <truexfan81> nitish: they would just be updated to a newer version
[17:10] <rickb> hello. I have an alienware laptop and since the latest batch up kernel updates it kernel panics on boot, even when I attempt a complete reinstall, the damn thing kernel panics before a full loadup, I've formatted the usb drive, used dd, unetbootin and liveusb-creator... centos 7 is working for me for now but any ideas?
[17:10] <breadmonster> MonkeyDust: Oh okay, cool, I thought Ubuntu had some binary.
[17:10] * darkhawk is running 4.2.0-19-generic
[17:11] <k1l_> breadmonster: dd works
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> breadmonster that binary would be useless in fedora
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> ah, dd, yes
[17:11] <L3ows> Is possible run IE8 in ubuntu linux?
[17:11] <nitish> truexfan81: I don't want to go to 15.04 or 15.10. will it changed to these?
[17:11] <truexfan81> L3ows: possibly in wine, but why would you want to?
[17:12] <truexfan81> nitish: no there is a seperate command to do release upgrades like that
[17:12] <k1l_> breadmonster: dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX where X is the usb, make sure not to use dev/sdx1 or dev/sdx2 or such
[17:12] <L3ows> truexfan81, humm.... i look playonlinux by ubuntu
[17:12] <L3ows> apt-get install playonlinux
[17:12] <breadmonster> k1l_: Okay, fantastic.
[17:12] <L3ows> it is framework from wine to install IE8
[17:13] <truexfan81> L3ows: playonlinux is a gui for wine but yeah maybe you can install it that way, i've never tried
[17:13] <chinesesausage> thank you wmorri
[17:13] <wmorri> chinesesausage, your welcome :)
[17:13] <L3ows> truexfan81, ok.. i going to testing.. it...
[17:13] <nitish> few years back when I used 10.04 there was screen saver but unable to find it in 14.04. Is there any external application for screen saver?
[17:14] <chinesesausage> thanks to people like you, Linux will remain the best
[17:14] <chinesesausage> :)
[17:14] <cgs_bob> MonkeyDust: so should I kill the "Distribution Upgrade" program and try your method? like I said this program seems to be hosed. I just see a blank window
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> cgs_bob you mean a graphical upgrade?
[17:15] <kostkon> !screensaver
[17:15] <kostkon> nope
[17:15] <truexfan81> cgs_bob: at the time that it became "hosed" was it still downloading the upgrades or had it started installing?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> cgs_bob i guess you better backup and fresh install
[17:16] <zlude> Hello! I'm trying to use gsmsendsms over ubuntu 14.04, however I can't find which /dev/??? is mine usb smartphone running on. How can I figure out?
[17:16] <L3ows> truexfan81, yea... i installed... IE8 by playonlinux is successfull running
[17:16] <nitish> kostkon: I think there should be any application for that.
[17:16] <L3ows> ;)
[17:16] <cgs_bob> MonkeyDust: I did a graphical upgrade. it downloaded all the packages. it looked like it started to install. then it stopped responding
[17:17] <truexfan81> cgs_bob: yeah what MonkeyDust said start backing up your data
[17:17] <BottomNotch> I'm having an issue with the android SDK manager. for some of the packages I'm getting an error. Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known
[17:18] <nitish> BottomNotch: Download latest android studio.
[17:18] <cgs_bob> truexfan81: I was afraid of that. will my computer come back up if I put it in suspend mode. I need to get my computer to work
[17:18] <truexfan81> cgs_bob: probably, just make sure it doesn't shut down
[17:19] <BottomNotch> nitish: I thought that might help so I did that already and still have the same issue
[17:19] <cgs_bob> truexfan81: I'll have to do that. *fingerscrossed*
[17:22] <nitish> what is Lubuntu and Kubuntu?
[17:22] <mbenson> if I have plenty of disk, CPU and RAM available, what might account for my Ubuntu system always being very unresponsive?
[17:23] <Pici> !flavors | nitish
[17:23] <zlude> fuck you
[17:24] <nitish> zlude: ask your question?
[17:24] <truexfan81> wow language
[17:24] <L3ows> Alguém do Brasil aqui?
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> !br
[17:24] <agent_white> !ask | zlude
[17:24] <agent_white> Ah. Oh well... nevermind.
[17:24] <nitish> I had downloaded artha but unable to open it now. how to fix it?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> !find artha
[17:26] <tricknology> hey all. I have two raspberry pi’s both have the same binaries loaded. The binary writes out to FD /dev/ttyACM0 then reads again. On [A] it writes and reads back fine. On [b] it writes fine but it does not read at all. Permissions are the same. Both are the same hardware and kernel.. I’m so confused.
[17:26] <nitish> MonkeyDust !find artha return this: bash: !find: event not found
[17:26] <BottomNotch> I'm having an issue with the android SDK manager. for some of the packages I'm getting an error. Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known. I have the latest version of android studio and tried opening the sdk mananger with sudo andI don't a have a firewall running.
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> nitish on the contrary, it returns ubottu> Found: artha, libosgearthannotation3
[17:27] <tricknology> Well, the site is up, BottomNotch
[17:27] <tricknology> maybe you’re not resolving the host name
[17:27] <L3ows> How to do upgrade from ubuntu version 14.04.3 LTS to version 15.10 ?
[17:27] <tricknology> how to clear that up idk.. something something clearing DNS cache
[17:27] <nitish> MonkeyDust: so what to do next to run artha?
[17:27] <vinrock> trying to run tic and im getting a 'No such file or directory" error. Is there something about Ubuntu im not aware of thats causing this?
[17:28] <vinrock> $HOME/.terminfo exists
[17:28] <vinrock> termcap is in $HOME
[17:28] <L3ows> truexfan81, do you know?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> nitish not sure, i was checking whether it was something in the repos... i had never heard of it
[17:28] <BottomNotch> tricknology: what's weird is that it's only for some on the packages.
[17:28] <OerHeks> "androidstudio with sudo" ... never knew sudo was needed
[17:28] <truexfan81> L3ows: a ton of time and effort
[17:29] <nitish> when I type artha and press enter then cursor goes to next line and nothing happen.
[17:29] <truexfan81> L3ows: best bet is to grab the 15.10 iso and start fresh
[17:29] <wmorri> L3ows, backup all your important data first.
[17:29] <OerHeks> 14.04 > 14.10 (eol) > 15.04 > 15.10 ... save yourself time, install fresh
[17:29] <L3ows> ok
[17:30] <BottomNotch> some of the packages.
[17:30] <BottomNotch> I stink at proofreedeng :/
[17:30] <nitish> So finally my vlc has been upgraded to 2.2.1. thank you guys.
[17:30] <tricknology> which packages, I can try to update on the mac and see if it’s system-wide at least.. I have eclipse though
[17:30] <L3ows> is possible boot iso 15.10 on ubuntu 14.04 running?
[17:30] <tricknology> should be same host though
[17:30] <nitish> L3ows: yes you can.
[17:30] <L3ows> truexfan81, humm... good...
[17:31] <nitish> L3ows: with startup disk creator.
[17:31] <L3ows> truexfan81, do you have any tutorial to it? or url ?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> nitish if you don't know what it is or does, why are you using it?
[17:31] <truexfan81> L3ows: sorry no
[17:31] <L3ows> startup disk creator?
[17:31] <nitish> MonkeyDust: what?
[17:31] <OerHeks> L3ows, no, use dvd, usb, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:31] <truexfan81> L3ows: i had started to do it myself on a vm but got tired of waiting for it lol
[17:32] <BottomNotch> tricknology: if I'm not resolving the hostname how can I confirm that it's the issue and how can I fix it?
[17:32] <L3ows> truexfan81, lol
[17:32] <tricknology> can you ping it?
[17:32] <tricknology> and im kinda rusty, i’m acutally here for help
[17:32] <tricknology> but something about clearing dns cache
[17:33] <tricknology> if you cant ping it then check this out BottomNotch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/558141/ubuntu-12-04-cant-resolve-hostname
[17:35] <L3ows> truexfan81, what do you think about ubuntu 15.10 version ?
[17:36] <L3ows> is better that ubuntu 14.04 ?
[17:36] <pbx> L3ows, not if you want long term support
[17:37] <L3ows> hmm
[17:37] <BottomNotch> tricknology: if you answered my last question could you answer again? I got dissconected.
[17:38] <anarkhos> BottomNotch, <tricknology> can you ping it?
[17:38] <anarkhos> BottomNotch, <tricknology> and im kinda rusty, i’m acutally here for help <tricknology> but something about clearing dns cache
[17:38] <anarkhos> BottomNotch, <tricknology> if you cant ping it then check this out BottomNotch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/558141/ubuntu-12-04-cant-resolve-hostname
[17:39] <Timvde> Hi. When running Qt applications, I get this error: "X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)". Using Ubuntu 14.04. What can I do about it? DuckDuckGo didn't really find anything.
[17:39] <L3ows> tricknology, test your dns settings with command: nslookup www.google.com
[17:39] <tricknology> hehe anarkhos you’re a hero
[17:39] <L3ows> BottomNotch, oh sorry, verify your dns settings is correct in /etc/resolv.conf
[17:40] <L3ows> BottomNotch, install the dnsmasq on apt-get install dnsmasq-base
[17:40] <tricknology> his symptom is in Android SDK manager in AS I presume.. “Download interrupted: Unknown Host dl.google.com: Name or service not known."
[17:40] <tricknology> L3ows: ^
[17:41] <BottomNotch> anarkhos: sorry for m newbiness, how do I do that?
[17:41] <BottomNotch> nevermind, I figured it out :p
[17:41] <BottomNotch> yes I can
[17:42] <OerHeks> again: "androidstudio with sudo" ... never knew sudo was needed
[17:42] <L3ows> 28 minutes to down my iso 15.10 ubuntu version
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> L3ows in which country are you
[17:42] <BottomNotch> ugh, dissconnected AGAIN.
[17:42] <L3ows> MonkeyDust, Brazil
[17:43] <BottomNotch> anarkos: I can ping dl.google.com
[17:45] <BottomNotch> anarkhos: I can ping dl.google.com
[17:45] <breadmonster> Hey.
[17:48] <breadmonster> So my friend's running Lubuntu 15.10 on a live CD.
[17:48] <anarkhos> Ok.
[17:49] <breadmonster> *wifi card
[17:49] <breadmonster> Can someone help me figure out how?
[17:49] <breadmonster> And it can't detect his wifi.
[17:49] <L3ows> breadmonster, wifi on
[17:49] <OneM_Industries> How do I find out what exactly was contained in today's updates? They appear to have broken one of my programs.
[17:50] <L3ows> breadmonster, utilizy network manager
[17:50] <L3ows> breadmonster, network-manager
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> breadmonster install first, then struggle with wifi... all struggle is for nothing, when you stop the live session
[17:50] <OneM_Industries> It was working before the update, and after the update, it is unable to load.
[17:50] <k1l_> OneM_Industries: see the log in /var/log/apt
[17:50] <nicomachus> L3ows: it's nm-connection-editor, not network-manager
[17:51] <breadmonster> L3ows: it's not instaled
[17:51] <OneM_Industries> Dangit, video card updates.
[17:52] <OneM_Industries> How do I undo all of this: http://pastebin.com/HbQQg7yr
[17:55] <nicomachus> breadmonster: because he got the command wrong. it's nm-connection-editor
[17:55] <k1l_> OneM_Industries: dont use the -updates package?
[17:55] <tricknology> BottomNotch: try this, as OerHeks suggested
[17:55] <wmorri> OneM_Industries, do you know which part of the update broke your program?
[17:55] <tricknology> androidstudio with sudo
[17:56] <juniorRubyist> how do i register for this?
[17:56] <BottomNotch_> tricknology: sorry, my computer craped itself and I had to reboot
[17:56] <k1l_> !register | juniorRubyist
[17:56] <BottomNotch_> fill me in on what people have told me to do please
[17:57] <BottomNotch_> and I've already tried opening the SDK manager with sudo
[17:57] <le_pig> :|
[17:57] <juniorRubyist> what is the MOTD?
[17:57] <juniorRubyist> for today
[18:01] <OneM_Industries> wmorri-sleep: No clue.
[18:02] <OneM_Industries> All I know is that this program only works with 340.96, but I tried setting the drivers to that and it still didn't work.
[18:03] <BottomNotch_> crap, I think I got dissconected again
[18:06] <BottomNotch> has anyone given me advice since I got dissconected?
[18:09] <rory> no
[18:09] <BottomNotch> oh wait a sec, I opened android studio with sudo, and from there opened the SDK manager, and it seem to be working. Weird that it didn't work to open the Sdk Managers directly with sudo
[18:09] <rory> BottomNotch: http://i.imgur.com/nRUCE2B.png
[18:14] <tester_> e ai
[18:15] <tester_> como vai pessoal
[18:16] <tester_> heeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[18:16] <le_pig> !br
[18:17] <tester_> o que
[18:17] <tester_> seja clara
[18:17] <OerHeks> tester_, english only please
[18:17] <tester_> ok
[18:17] <tester_> Hi
[18:17] <tester_> lol
[18:18] <tester_> hello
[18:18] <tester_> hello
[18:18] <tester_> hello
[18:18] <nicomachus> sto
[18:18] <tester_> hello
[18:18] <nicomachus> stop
[18:18] <k1l_> tester_: enough now
[18:18] <tester_> lol
[18:19] <nicomachus> tester_: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:20] <tester_> no
[18:21] <tester_> how are you
[18:21] <nicomachus> !ot | tester_
[18:22] <tester_> sorry
[18:22] <tester_> cuties
[18:23] <tester_> bye bye
[18:38] <iarr> fucking nigger
[18:46] <rahuldev> Hi!
[18:46] <rahuldev> So silence!
[18:46] <rahuldev> Keep calm!
[18:46] <souliaq> Someone knows how to set Terminology as default Terminal?
[18:46] <souliaq> Already tried everythin on "google"
[18:47] <souliaq> update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator, doesn't list Terminology, but is installed and working
[18:49] <EriC^^> souliaq: how'd you install it?
[18:51] <souliaq> synaptic
[18:53] <planet98> hello
[18:53] <planet98> hello
[18:53] <planet98> hello
[18:53] <inteus> stop repeating yourself
[18:53] <SlidingHorn> souliaq, you can try editing the alternative file itself (using sudo) - nano /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator ------ From there, add two lines to the bottom: '/usr/bin/[whateverit'scalledinthisdirectory]' and '20' (or any number lower than what's listed so far in the file
[18:54] <planet98> sorry
[18:54] <souliaq> Thanks, I'll try it
[18:54] <SlidingHorn> you'll likely need to restart your session for it to take effect
[18:55] <souliaq> ok
[18:58] <Tangurin> Hi! :)
[18:58] <SlidingHorn> Completely off topic, but tesla I like the name....I name all my machines after famous/influential scientists...tesla is my tower :)
[18:58] <EriC^^> hi
[18:59] <Tangurin> This is not ubuntu question but I don't know where to ask! I skype with a lot of friends and play gta V with them. But there is one friend that I can't talk in skype with or play with, it is something with our connection, what may it be?
[19:00] <Pici> Tangurin: As you said, thats not really a topic for this channel. Maybe ##windows can help with that.
[19:00] <goddard> if nothing is running that should lock app installations from apt-get or ubuntu software center then how can you reset it so you are allowed to install things again?
[19:00] <tesla> SlidingHorn, hahaha I only use it for usernames but it's a cool idea indeed!
[19:00] <Tangurin> Thanks :)
[19:00] <Pici> goddard: Are you getting some error?
[19:00] <Tangurin> nothing but bad connection
[19:01] <goddard> Pici: yeah it is locked
[19:01] <Pici> !aptfix | goddard take a look
[19:03] <OerHeks> goddard, "from apt-get or ubuntu software center " both active?
[19:03] <TheWarden> Hello, I recently installed Ubutntu 14.04. What is the default password for the user 'kiosk' ?
[19:03] <daftykins> there isn't a user called that as default? did you install something to provide it?
[19:06] <TheWarden> daynaskully: well there has to be because I downloaded ubuntu from the ubuntu.com and installed via usb. This is the user I got by default.
[19:06] <TheWarden> it auto logins to the desktop
[19:07] <TheWarden> mmm maybe my mind is going... maybe I was prompted to enter a username mmm but if it did it would have asked for the password as well. crap.
[19:07] <akik> TheWarden: not sure what you've installed but you can change the password with "sudo passwd kiosk"
[19:08] <akik> TheWarden: from your normal user account
[19:08] <TheWarden> mmm sorry me being dumb... I got it working. unreal. so stupid of me.
[19:22] <tesla>
[19:34] <boxmein> hey guise
[19:34] <boxmein> how do i make dual graphicsing work
[19:34] <boxmein> because it used to be alright but suddenly disappeared
[19:35] <boxmein> yet nouveau inits fine
[19:36] <OneM_Industries> Anyone know how I would set my graphics card drivers to version 346.96 instead of 352.63? 352.63 appears to have overwritten 346.96 entirely, breaking my setup.
[19:38] <OneM_Industries> Anyone? Please?
[19:39] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: why did you install two? that was highly unwise
[19:39] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: sudo apt-get purge nvidia* && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install nvidia-346
[19:40] <herrkin> hi people. guys how do I set up ssh so that if I want to push a git repository to a production server I dont have to type the key everytime?
[19:40] <genii> Hm
[19:40] <genii> !info nvidia-346
[19:41] <herrkin> I know how to configure the key in github or bitbucket but I dont know how to do it in a production server
[19:41] <genii> !info nvidia-340-uvm
[19:41] <herrkin> so that if I push changes it won't ask me for the key
[19:43] <genii> OneM_Industries: Which package gave you the 346.96 version?
[19:48] <marcanuy> Hi, after upgrading to 15.10 I have the following package dependencies problem (apt-get -f install): http://paste.ubuntu.com/13372447/
[19:49] <marcanuy> any help?
[19:49] <daftykins> !patience
[19:50] <chr0ma> Why the minimal installation of Ubuntu 15.* sucks bad?
[19:50] <genii> marcanuy: apt-get install --reinstall libssl1.0.0:amd64
[19:50] <daftykins> marcanuy: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" i think it is
[19:50] <chr0ma> I can't even install grub
[19:50] <daftykins> chr0ma: mini.iso ? nothing wrong with them.
[19:50] <chr0ma> Nothing wrong?
[19:50] <SlidingHorn> marcanuy, have you seen this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924941
[19:51] <daftykins> chr0ma: are you trying to use it more as a live session to solve problems with, rather than just perform an installation from?
[19:52] <marcanuy> genii: apt-get install --reinstall libssl1.0.0:amd64 output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13372502/
[19:52] <bhagath> when i want to connect usb drive i faced this problemNot authorized to perform operation
[19:52] <chr0ma> I'm using it for a minimal installation, and after it, install openbox and other stuff
[19:52] <marcanuy> daftykins: it doesn't recongnizes the -a option
[19:53] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: THANK YOU!
[19:54] <genii> !info libssl1.0.0
[19:54] <SlidingHorn> chr0ma, I actually just did a setup like this today - I had problems with the server version, and the minimal isn't compatible with UEFI (i guess?), so what I ended up doing was installing xubuntu, ripping out any trace of xfce/xfwm, etc, and then installed xdm & openbox
[19:54] <daftykins> marcanuy: bit weird you have 32-bit libs on there at all really.
[19:54] <genii> marcanuy: It looks like you have mixed repositories
[19:55] <marcanuy> sudo dpkg --configure -a output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13372547/ (too many errors)
[19:55] <chr0ma> I resolved the problem installing grub to /dev/sd*
[19:55] <SlidingHorn> I actually have a paste of all that I had to take out. I *CANNOT* recommend this, as I was flying off the seat of my pants doing this, but I have a working system - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13370792/
[19:55] <genii> Because libcurl3 and some others there want libssl versions which are later than what's in the official repositories
[19:56] <chr0ma> But the grub at the start of the system don't show up so i have to open a tty session
[19:56] <chr0ma> (Sorry for my english)
[19:56] <marcanuy> daftykins: for example?
[19:57] <daftykins> marcanuy: it's pretty obvious, in your pastes they're the packages with :i386 after
[20:00] <marcanuy> daftykins: I have installed many things over the years..
[20:00] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: It just set it back to 352.63.
[20:01] <daftykins> marcanuy: yep, probably why your upgrade is getting awkward now. see what genii said
[20:01] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: the exact opposite of what you asked, ok
[20:01] <SlidingHorn> chr0ma, it sounds like you're getting beyond GRUB if you're able to get into a tty (at least, that's how I understand it - someone else can feel free to correct me)
[20:02] <marcanuy> daftykins, genii : yes, I am trying to remove them but I can't execute "sudo apt-get purge <package>" now, it fails because of the previous errors
[20:02] <chr0ma> Okay
[20:05] <daftykins> marcanuy: sudo dpkg -r <package>:arch
[20:07] <marcanuy> daftykins: "dependency problems - not removing"
[20:09] <parapan> Hi folks; is there any way to X11 apps via ssh without an X server installed in Windows ?
[20:09] <EriC^^> !xforwarding
[20:09] <daftykins> marcanuy: experiment with the order of package you chose to remove
[20:10] <daftykins> parapan: nope pretty sure you need xmingw or some similar component
[20:11] <parapan> daftykins: I thinked so ...ok, then any light server (not xming or cygwin ) that will not require full install in windows ?
[20:11] <daftykins> no idea, never done it - i think you're out of luck
[20:11] <parapan> daftykins: something you can fire from an USB stick like ?
[20:12] <parapan> daftykins: then we must write one :D
[20:12] <daftykins> parapan: if you were doing that, i'd sooner be booting an ubuntu live session from said drive...
[20:12] <daftykins> err no, you're on your own there
[20:12] <parapan> daftykins: cannot boot; forbidden by stupid company rules . .
[20:14] <ioria> parapan, maybe give a look http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/doc/tutorial/T19_3a_xmingputty.htm
[20:15] <parapan> ioria: 10x brother/sister :D
[20:15] <parapan> ioria: I will give-it a try . . .
[20:15] <ioria> parapan, ok
[20:16] <petra> #bi
[20:16] <genii> parapan: For this one it doesn't use any Cygwin parts like Xming does : http://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/
[20:16] <genii> parapan: Thats about the most minimal X server for Windows you're going to find
[20:16] <Yaiyan> On the ubuntu gnome installer, when I choose to install Ubuntu gnome alongside other distros
[20:16] <Yaiyan> It only shows sdd
[20:16] <Yaiyan> I wanted to install it on sdc
[20:17] <Yaiyan> How do I choose a different disk?
[20:20] <daftykins> parapan: then bear in mind that you installing or running something to connect home potentially, would likely be more of a violation than that even. Check with your employer as to what you're allowed to do, just because you can does not mean you should
[20:21] <Yaiyan> Meh, I just did the advanced installer instead :/
[20:21] <Yaiyan> This is my first time using GNOME since GNOME 2 :D
[20:21] <Yaiyan> Let's see if 3's better than I thought :)
[20:22] <daftykins> Yaiyan: support here, chat -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:22] <parapan> daftykins: gee man. you're a corporate IT manager ?
[20:22] <Yaiyan> daftykins, I had been asking for support :-)
[20:23] <daftykins> parapan: no, i'm someone looking out for someone not getting their ass fired for doing something silly :)
[20:23] <parapan> daftykins: from work all ports are blocked; so I can only use the X11 forwarding when connecting with corporate laptop to public wifi or similar . .
[20:24] <parapan> daftykins: Ok, got your point, thanks for concern bro; you are correct of course but I'll tell them this was not explicitly forbidden . .
[20:25] <daftykins> alrighty, but i wouldn't even stray that far :)
[20:25] <noelia> Hello everyone
[20:27] <noelia> My wi-fi internet connection is too slow with Ubuntu 14.04, I've got 30MB/s. F.O. Why is this?
[20:28] <noelia> In other computer speed is fine
[20:28] <stupid_admin> hi
[20:28] <noelia> Other computer connected with a cable
[20:28] <daftykins> thirty megabytes per second doesn't sound like the unit you're meaning to convey?
[20:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have a bit of time now at lunch if you are around
[20:29] <Yaiyan> daftykins, I presume he meant megabits per second
[20:29] <stupid_admin> I did rm -rf /etc/davfs2 by mistake; now when I do `sudo apt-get remove davfs2 && sudo apt-get install davfs2` I don't see the configuration file. How do I get back configuration files for davfs2?
[20:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: Nevermind, i have to go
[20:29] <daftykins> Yaiyan: let me get the truth direct :) no assumptions necessary
[20:30] <stupid_admin> anyone?
[20:30] <noelia> Any ideas?
[20:30] <daftykins> noelia: can you confirm your metric before we go any further?
[20:30] <Yaiyan> daftykins, I think it's obvious what he meant, no need to be pedantic
[20:30] <daftykins> noelia: what was this speed and what was it you were doing... a file copy over LAN, or internet based activity?
[20:31] <noelia> daftykins I was trying to download a 1MB file
[20:31] <daftykins> Yaiyan: this is called diagnosing a problem, we're communicating and checking what each other mean before we get stuck down a rabbit hole. Please don't make it any harder than it needs to be.
[20:31] * Yaiyan shrugs
[20:32] <Yaiyan> #ubuntu-offtopic would be ideal for arguing about whether to call it MB/s or Mb/s though
[20:32] <noelia> daftykins And it takes a lot to load a web page
[20:32] <jamesstanley> Hello. I'm trying to watch 4od on Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.04. I've installed hal and it's worked fine in the past, on both machines, but recently it has stopped working. Looking in the browser console I see it is trying to download some mp4 but receiving a 404 response. Does anyone know what to do to fix it?
[20:32] <stupid_admin> is there an #ubuntu-help to recover from stupid mistakes like `rm -rf /etc/davfs2` ?
[20:32] <daftykins> Yaiyan: you've got the total wrong end of the stick there, please stop making a mountain out of a molehill.
[20:32] <stupid_admin> Yaiyan: ^?
[20:32] <daftykins> noelia: what's the wireless adapter in use here?
[20:33] <noelia> daftykins How can I find out about that?
[20:33] <daftykins> noelia: if it's a PCI card, "lspci" in the terminal will give you a listing which you can spot the device in
[20:33] <ioria> stupid_admin, have you tried with purge ?
[20:33] <OerHeks> noelia, 30MB/s x 8 = 240 mbit .. sounds pretty oke for a 300 mbit wifi adapter
[20:33] <daftykins> noelia: otherwise, "lshw -C network | nc termbin.com 9999" would be good
[20:33] <stupid_admin> ioria: nope, I just tried `sudo apt-get remove davfs2 && sudo apt-get install davfs2`; how do I `purge`?
[20:34] <noelia> daftykins It's a laptop
[20:34] <ioria> stupid_admin, replace remove with purge
[20:34] <daftykins> noelia: yes, devices are still connected via PCI, no matter the shape of the system (or sometimes USB for wifi, but rarely)
[20:35] <noelia> daftykins Use netcat.
[20:35] <noelia> daftykins That's the output.
[20:35] <daftykins> noelia: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[20:36] <noelia> daftykins Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[20:37] <daftykins> noelia: strange, sounds like your release is out of date - do you get anything to install from "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade" ?
[20:38] <noelia> daftykins My wi-fi card isn't compatible with Ubuntu 14.04 perhaps?
[20:39] <daftykins> noelia: 14.04.3 is the current version; so your output above suggests your installation is not up to date; so it'd be handy if you'd run the above commands :)
[20:39] <OerHeks> noelia, it works fine, 30MB/s x 8 = 240 mbit .. sounds pretty oke for a 300 mbit wifi adapter
[20:39] <daftykins> OerHeks: i think the unit was a mistake
[20:39] <daftykins> but i am yet to get a clear answer on that
[20:39] <stupid_admin> ioria: Thanks! It worked. May I ask you another issue with davfs2? I did `sudo dpkg-reconfigure davfs2` to enable user mounts; I also did `sudo usermod -a -G davfs2 stupid_admin`; but when I try `mount ~/BoxSync` it says `user stupid_admin must be member of group davfs2`
[20:40] <stupid_admin> ioria: I can `sudo !!` and mount ~/BoxSync
[20:41] <nicomachus> is there a default timeout time on an ssh session?
[20:41] <ioria> stupid_admin, what's the output of groups ?
[20:42] <genii> nicomachus: Nope.
[20:42] <nicomachus> genii: hmm... I walked away from 2 hours, came back and my remote host had closed the connection.
[20:42] <nicomachus> because of idle time
[20:43] <noelia> daftykins I did what you told me and "sudo apt update" is taking too long.
[20:43] <daftykins> noelia: ok, in the meantime you can run "lspci" and manually copy the output into http://paste.ubuntu.com to share here
[20:43] <noelia> daftykins Thank you :)
[20:44] <OerHeks> nicomachus, take a look at ClientAliveInterval TCPKeepAlive and ClientAliveCountMax in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:44] <genii> nicomachus: There's no default timeout, but server can be set with ClientAliveInterval to disconnect
[20:44] <daftykins> noelia: "lshw -C network" would also be great
[20:44] <nicomachus> thanks OerHeks, there now.
[20:45] <stupid_admin> ioria: strange; groups returns `groups #users sudo afspag-1106262091`
[20:46] <nicomachus> OerHeks: ClientAliveInterval and ClientAliveCountMax aren't in the file. TCPKeepAlive is set to "yes"
[20:46] <stupid_admin> ioria: shouldn't `sudo usermod -a -G davfs2 stupid_admin` add me to davfs2; what am I missing?
[20:46] <noelia> daftykins http://pastebin.com/f0q4CJM9
[20:46] <ioria> stupid_admin, your user should shows up in the output if you added to it
[20:47] <daftykins> noelia: ok so Realtek RTL8188EE - that's a known bad one. can you also do "uname -r" ? that's a single liner so it can be pasted here direct
[20:47] <ioria> stupid_admin, did you login/logout ?
[20:48] <stupid_admin> ioria: logout/login? seriously?
[20:48] <noelia> daftykins 3.13.0-24-generic
[20:48] <ioria> stupid_admin, it's important when you add user to new group
[20:48] <ioria> *s
[20:48] <daftykins> noelia: did you install recently? it's HUGELY out of date
[20:49] <stupid_admin> ioria: OMG, you're so correct. This is "one weird trick"; I did an "Ctrl+Alt+F1" and logged into a real tty; groups shows I am added to davfs2
[20:49] <noelia> daftykins I actually installed Ubuntu 14.04 yesterday
[20:49] <ioria> stupid_admin, yeah....
[20:49] <daftykins> noelia: ok so you need to update; if the wifi is this bad, can you connect to your home router with a cable - if your laptop has a wired connection, just to perform the update?
[20:50] <noelia> daftykins You mean updating to Ubuntu 15.10?
[20:51] <daftykins> noelia: no, updating to 14.04.3 with the latest kernel and software packages
[20:52] <stupid_admin> ioria: okay, thanks - now I can do `mount ~/BoxSyc` on real tty; also this stack-exchange bug is weird. Apparently, the warning is benign
[20:53] <spilt_milk> hey fellas
[20:53] <ioria> stupid_admin, i see , not an expert of that, sorry
[20:54] <spilt_milk> i'd like some sort of curses/terminal based connection to a hipchat xmpp server
[20:54] <spilt_milk> i'm using weechat now but open to anything
[20:54] <spilt_milk> any ideas?
[20:54] <noelia> daftykins I must say, I skipped the installation of some updates during the installation of Ubuntu
[20:55] <noelia> daftykins Because it took too long to download
[20:55] <daftykins> noelia: yeah, there's no point trying to identify issues until you're fully up to date :) so use a wired connection to bypass any issues.
[20:56] <bemagic> Need help
[20:57] <daftykins> ask away, with detail, on one line please :)
[20:57] <bemagic> how to change my boot screen picture on ubuntu mate
[20:58] <OerHeks> I think mate-tweak can do that?
[20:58] <OerHeks> !info mate-tweak
[20:58] <nicomachus> daftykins: is there a fix for that rtl8188 driver? I've got a dongle that uses it on another machine, but I got so fed up with it I just bought a new one.
[20:59] <daftykins> nicomachus: not a clue, not really my area
[20:59] <daftykins> realtek are best avoided
[20:59] <nicomachus> ^ truth.
[20:59] <nicomachus> lesson learned there.
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> <3 realtek
[21:01] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust: you dropped this: /s
[21:02] <Guest12428> hi, I have a notebook with ubuntu 15.04 and a nvidia 940m. After installing nvidia-352 and nvidia-352-updates (and a restart) I just saw a black screen.
[21:02] <daftykins> Guest12428: you can't have both together, are you typing from another system?
[21:02] <Guest12428> I have removed the drivers but what driver do I need?
[21:03] <MrCurious> is there a limit on the number of hard disk devices? i.e. is it possible to go past /dev/sdj?
[21:03] <MrCurious> i seem to max out at 10
[21:03] <daftykins> Guest12428: sounds like you have an nvidia optimus laptop, with intel + nvidia hybrid; can you confirm with "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" and sharing the link here?
[21:03] <Guest12428> daftykins, mby I should not have installed nvidia-updates...
[21:03] <daftykins> MrCurious: don't see why not, you got drives not showing up?
[21:04] <Guest12428> daftykins, http://termbin.com/53m2
[21:04] <MrCurious> good catch.. added a thumb drive and got sdk…
[21:05] <root____2> list
[21:05] <daftykins> Guest12428: is this a filly up to date installation? also "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999" please
[21:05] <root____2> exit
[21:05] <daftykins> ...
[21:05] <daftykins> heh filly, i meant fully up to date
[21:05] <Guest12428> daftykins, http://termbin.com/qccq
[21:06] <vinny_> hello all
[21:06] <daftykins> Guest12428: you've modified this with a mainline kernel... any particular reason?
[21:06] <Guest12428> daftykins, not rly. I wanted to try something. is this kernel unstable?
[21:07] <daftykins> Guest12428: it just causes hassle with things you're about to do - what make and model is this system?
[21:08] <Guest12428> daftykins, "make and model"? what do u mean?
[21:08] <daftykins> the company if it's a laptop
[21:08] <Guest12428> daftykins, ah. lenovo t450s
[21:09] <daftykins> Guest12428: are there any controls in the BIOS to pick the graphics hardware in use, or such? i'm seeing no evidence there of it trying to use the nvidia, but that could be the alternative kernel at fault
[21:10] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: Sorry about the late reply.
[21:10] <vinny_> Ubuntu 14.03lts no longer boots, showing grub rescue prompt
[21:10] <OneM_Industries> I ran the command just as you typed it, and it is still set to 352.63.
[21:11] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: so do you still want to go back or...
[21:11] <OneM_Industries> Yes, I do want it to go back.
[21:11] <daftykins> vinny_: what changed? upgrade? also i assume that's 14.04.3
[21:11] <Guest12428> daftykins, first I have chosen an nvidia "additional driver". because I wanted to use 'oclHashcat' some cuda stuff. I don't know much about it
[21:12] <daftykins> Guest12428: right but you said you removed all that to boot back in, correct?
[21:12] <Guest12428> y
[21:12] <BottomNotch> My laptop will not boot to Ubuntu after installing xcfe4, it says running in low-grapics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will have to configure these yourself. Help please!
[21:12] <vinny_> would not reboot after video card unplugged. most suggestions on forum tried already.
[21:12] <daftykins> Guest12428: so just to double check, "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* "
[21:12] <Guest12428> daftykins, at startup I see an error "Error parsing PCC subspaces from PCCT"
[21:12] <daftykins> vinny_: so this system has no graphics card? or...?
[21:13] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " then reboot
[21:13] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[21:13] <Guest12428> daftykins, sudo apt-get purge nvidia* removed nothing
[21:13] <vinny_> plugged card back in, pulled out by accident
[21:13] <OneM_Industries> OK, BRB.
[21:14] <daftykins> Guest12428: good good. now undo that kernel you've added, because it'll likely be complicating matters
[21:14] <daftykins> Guest12428: or just use the GRUB boot menu to pick one of the supported 3.19 versions installed
[21:14] <daftykins> !info linux-generic vivid
[21:14] <daftykins> you should have 3.19.0-33 on 15.04 there
[21:14] <genii> vinny_: This sounds more like a hardware issue
[21:15] <BottomNotch> My laptop will not boot to Ubuntu after installing xcfe4, it says running in low-grapics mode. Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will have to configure these yourself. Help please!
[21:15] <daftykins> BottomNotch: graphics card and driver?
[21:16] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: intel graphics
[21:16] <daftykins> BottomNotch: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? (don't need one really)
[21:17] <BottomNotch> Have no idea
[21:18] <OneM_Industries> I am back.
[21:18] <OneM_Industries> Ok, what next daftykins?
[21:18] <daftykins> BottomNotch: can you check...
[21:19] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: have you installed any graphics driver PPAs, such as xorg edgers... etc
[21:19] <vinny_> grub rescue prompt is a hardware issue? your thinking HD is bad
[21:19] <BottomNotch> daftykins: how can I check without booting?
[21:19] <daftykins> vinny_: no he's not, he's thinking you messing around with a graphics card has done damage of another kind :)
[21:19] <OneM_Industries> No.
[21:19] <OneM_Industries> I have not.
[21:19] <daftykins> BottomNotch: you can boot to the low res X just fine, just switch to TTY1 with ctrl+alt+F1 then login there
[21:19] <OneM_Industries> I am only using the ones from nvidia.
[21:20] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: ok; "apt-cache policy nvidia-346 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:20] <daftykins> no, packages are not from nvidia :)
[21:20] <daftykins> only the manual file installs are from nvidia
[21:20] <OneM_Industries> http://termbin.com/6wc5
[21:20] <OneM_Industries> Ah, ok.
[21:21] <daftykins> well that's some funky result
[21:21] <OneM_Industries> For some reason, whenever I enter nvidia-346, it wants to go to 352.
[21:21] <daftykins> guess there's no more 346 for you
[21:21] <Guest12428> daftykins, where can I change the kernel version of the default grub entry?
[21:21] <OneM_Industries> Only problem is, 352 doesn't work for me.
[21:21] <daftykins> Guest12428: don't do it permanently, just press escape / hold left shift before boot and pick it from the menu
[21:21] <daftykins> !info nvidia-346 trusty
[21:21] <daftykins> yip dead
[21:22] <OneM_Industries> Doh.
[21:22] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: was this one of those hybrid laptops, or what? and what does 'not work' mean?
[21:22] <OneM_Industries> I have a game that I play that apparently only works on 346.
[21:22] <OneM_Industries> And no, this is my desktop.
[21:22] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: no, but I do have xorg.conf.failsafe
[21:22] <Guest12428> one more with nvidia diver problems? ^^
[21:23] <daftykins> totally unrelated; yours isn't a driver problem either i don't think
[21:23] <OneM_Industries> If I try to run it on anything else, it crashes trying to load a map due to all the standard shader passes becoming unsupported.
[21:23] <Guest12428> rebooting...
[21:24] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ok that's fine, are you using wifi on that system or wired LAN?
[21:25] <BottomNotch> WiFi, I can go on wired LAN if I need to though.
[21:25] <vinny_> bye
[21:25] <daftykins> BottomNotch: nah that's alright, was just to find out whether it's online right now
[21:25] <daftykins> my guess is it won't be
[21:25] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: what game?
[21:25] <OneM_Industries> Unturned.
[21:26] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: by the way, i get the feeling that you've been in here breaking your setup quite often then needing a few patches applied... what gives? :)
[21:26] <parapan> daftykins: http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/doc/tutorial/T19_3a_xmingputty.htm - this is working like hell man ...
[21:26] <daftykins> define "like hell"
[21:26] <serses> where do i find winusb?
[21:26] <parapan> daftykins: just wanted to let you know if others are asking ...
[21:26] <OneM_Industries> At least with this one, it was not me goofing up. ;)
[21:26] <Guest11330> daftykins, ok I have restarted my system with kernel 3.19.0-33-generic
[21:27] <daftykins> parapan: i don't know if you're saying good or bad
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> serses wrong channel, this is for ubuntu support
[21:27] <parapan> daftykins: I mean is working out of the box; it doesn't require install, is working from USB or from local HDD with no admin rights ...
[21:27] <serses> my wireless driver isn't working
[21:27] <daftykins> parapan: ah ok.
[21:27] <SlidingHorn> !wifi | serses
[21:28] <serses> i've tried that already
[21:28] <serses> no results
[21:28] <parapan> daftykins: so it's a good solution; maybe you can give it a try some time to check it on yourself ...
[21:28] <OneM_Industries> daftykins: And with the other issues, usually it is me trying to be tech support for others and discovering the limits of my knowledge.
[21:28] <SlidingHorn> none? no errors, terminal output, etc? odd..............
[21:28] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: can you go any older than 346?
[21:28] <parapan> ioria is not here anymore ...but I already said thanks to him/her . ..
[21:28] <OneM_Industries> No, I tried those. Same issue.
[21:29] <serses> i've tried dmesg | grep Network but i get no error
[21:29] <daftykins> parapan: no, because i do not need that functionality and would not use a system remotely graphically :) SSH is the answer.
[21:29] <noelia> Hello again
[21:29] <zidsal> would anyone mind giving me a hand? I'm trying to install ubuntu and when it comes to the choosing the partitions screen the installer just crashes. I've tried booting in via the try ubuntu and opening gparted however the only drive gparted can find is my usb. Does anyone have any ideas?
[21:29] <BottomNotch> oops, I wasn't plugged in and my battery died. After I boot back up should I try to ping somthing, daftykins?
[21:29] <Guest11330> daftykins, should I reinstall the driver with the different kernel?
[21:30] <noelia> daftykins I tried with a wired connection and it just doesn't work :(
[21:30] <daftykins> BottomNotch: sure; pretty sure wifi would only connect if the desktop comes up ok though
[21:30] <daftykins> BottomNotch: although you can probably get it to; just at low res, eh?
[21:30] <franco_gb> help, my ubuntu window bars disappeared and no keyboard shortcut works!
[21:30] <daftykins> noelia: can you be a bit more descriptive than "doesn't work" ?
[21:30] <frite> i want to search a directory for a file name
[21:30] <frite> how?
[21:31] <frite> the filename contains haar
[21:31] <noelia> daftykins It doesn't get connected to the home network nor to the internet, the ethernet adapter doesn't work
[21:31] <OneM_Industries> Ooh! Now it works!
[21:31] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: what's that?
[21:31] <franco_gb> i usually kill the power to my machine and reboot. But is there another way?
[21:31] <OneM_Industries> Really, really slowly, and really dark, but it kinda works.
[21:31] <daftykins> frite: "find /path/to/look/in -name "*haar*"
[21:32] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: At the dialog I mentioned when I first asked for help I could press ok and I had some options one of which was to boot with low graphics, I tried that and it just hung at the boot animation
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> frite try find . -name 'haar*' -exec ls -l {} \;
[21:32] <daftykins> franco_gb: you can log in at ctrl+alt+F1
[21:32] <OneM_Industries> Odd.
[21:33] <OneM_Industries> So, now at least it runs.
[21:33] <noelia> daftykins I downgraded from 15.04 to 14.04 because certain games asked for too high hardware requirements
[21:33] <parapan> daftykins: ok, I love ssh also, this tool uses the same ...X11 over ssh ...only that some time it is too complicated ...
[21:33] <daftykins> OneM_Industries: you mean you ran it since purging all nvidia* ? that'd just be using the open source driver then
[21:33] <daftykins> parapan: yes i know how it works - believe me; i just don't personally believe in doing so :)
[21:33] <OneM_Industries> But the gamma is all the way up, and I have gone from a stable 60FPS to 15 at the max.
[21:33] <parapan> daftykins: do you know by the way what components needs to be started for the complete desktop to be shown ?
[21:34] <noelia> daftykins But internet speed used to be high with Ubuntu 15.04
[21:34] <daftykins> noelia: i think what you should do, is use another computer to download a 14.04.3 ISO and reinstall.
[21:34] <daftykins> noelia: one way or another, you need to get up to date.
[21:35] <daftykins> noelia: running an older ubuntu is not going to make your computer any faster in games though
[21:36] <noelia> daftykins If not 14.04.3... which Ubuntu version do I have installed in my computer?
[21:36] <nicomachus> daftykins: that actually depends on the game... if it's in Wine, sometimes 14.04 is going to be better than 15.10
[21:36] <daftykins> 14.04.0
[21:36] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: At the dialog I mentioned when I first asked for help I could press ok and I had some options one of which was to boot with low graphics, I tried that and it just hung at the boot animation
[21:36] <daftykins> nicomachus: right but we'd be taking a leap to say we're talking about wine;
[21:37] <Decco848> Frite, its common in a the most recent update of mate to find the search option IN Just off the panel Within the Places drop down list. Additional search methods would be someone Else's knowledge as i have not used the command line syntax
[21:37] <daftykins> BottomNotch: yes; mmm it's very odd to see things fail so, what other options does it present?
[21:38] <noelia> daftykins How do you know that? Just asking, I would like to be able to know which version I've got
[21:38] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I already pressed ctrl alt f1, what's the console command to reboot?
[21:39] <daftykins> noelia: because your kernel is out of date and when i asked you to run "cat /etc/issue" you came up with 14.04 but not 14.04.1, or 14.04.2, or 14.04.3
[21:39] <daftykins> noelia: so download and install 14.04.3 :) it's the best plan
[21:39] <daftykins> BottomNotch: no need to, ctrl+alt+F7 gets you back
[21:39] <noelia> daftykins Thank you very much indeed
[21:39] <noelia> :)
[21:39] <daftykins> ^_^
[21:39] <daftykins> my pleasure
[21:41] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: it seems to be hanging at the boot animation again, or it's just taking a long time.
[21:42] <zidsal> does anyone have any ideas on why ubuntu can't find my hard drive when I'm trying to install it via my usb? the only thing that seems to be mounted is the usb
[21:42] <daftykins> BottomNotch: at the first TTY, (F1) does "dmesg | tail" give you anything that looks like repeating errors?
[21:43] <noelia> By the way... Does MAC filtering affect wired connections?
[21:43] <serses> does ubuntu 14.04 support more drivers?
[21:44] <daftykins> noelia: no;
[21:44] <daftykins> serses: than 12.04? sure.
[21:44] <serses> than 15
[21:44] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: no, just some stuff having to do with wlan.
[21:44] <daftykins> serses: no, it's older... however 14.04 can get the kernels from newer releases
[21:45] <ich_> daftykins, as u said I switched to kernel version 3.19. what nvidia driver should I install?
[21:45] <noelia> Then I don't understand why I can't connect to the internet with a wire. I mean, whenever I connect a wire and ping www.google.com, the output is "Network unreachable".
[21:46] <daftykins> ich_: oh you're the guest from before; "sudo apt-get clean" first off then try "sudo apt install nvidia-352 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings"
[21:46] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I can take a picture of what I got if you want to
[21:46] <daftykins> ich_: watch very carefully to make sure it creates a module for your 3.19 kernel
[21:46] <BottomNotch> I'm on my phone anyways
[21:46] <daftykins> BottomNotch: sure; imgur.com is good
[21:46] <daftykins> noelia: can you ping your router's IP address?
[21:47] <noelia> daftykins No, I can't either. "Network unreachable".
[21:48] <daftykins> noelia: sounds like your wired interface doesn't even have an IP
[21:48] <noelia> daftykins That's right, it doesn't even get an IP via DHCP
[21:48] <daftykins> noelia: do you have access to another computer? it'd make life a lot easier to just download 14.04.3 and get it installed on there
[21:48] <jack_> logout
[21:49] <ich_> daftykins, yes. I don't know why I am not a guest any more :) is it ok if it prints something like "building for 3.19 and 4.3... building init module for 3.19" ?
[21:49] <noelia> daftykins Is it possible to download 14.04.3?
[21:49] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: http://imgur.com/guHws5O
[21:49] <noelia> daftykins I thought you could only download 14.04
[21:50] <daftykins> noelia: no it's the image available on the main page; http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/
[21:50] <daftykins> 14.04.3 desktop amd64 = 64-bit
[21:50] <nicomachus> noelia: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[21:50] <ich_> daftykins, installation is complete. I will restart now
[21:52] <niekas> "More Ubuntu phones coming soon…" < When could be this "soon"?
[21:52] <daftykins> niekas: #ubuntu-touch
[21:53] <niekas> daftykins: thanks
[21:54] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: http://imgur.com/guHws5O
[21:54] <daftykins> BottomNotch: yep, nothing of importance there really. so was it just the package "xfce4" you ran?
[21:55] <daftykins> ran the install of, that is
[21:58] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I did sudo apt-get install xcfe4 but it said there was something wrong and to run it with --fixmissing or apt-get update. I ran sudo apt-get update tried again same thing then I tried with --fixmissing and it install, and worked unroll I rebooted.
[21:58] <ich_> daftykins, I have installed "nvidia-352 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings" after a restart I again got a black screen so I have purged everything
[21:58] <Li> how to change between disk "not partitions" using cfdisk?
[21:59] <daftykins> ich_: alright, what did we say about graphics options in your BIOS? were there any?
[21:59] <daftykins> BottomNotch: mmm so it could be some nasty stuck in a middle state sort of thing; do you still have a flash drive or DVD around that you installed from?
[22:00] <ich_> daftykins, oh. forgot that. what exactly should I check?
[22:00] <daftykins> ich_: look for any settings to pick between adapters
[22:00] <bprompt> Li: check the man pages :/ -> cfdisk /dev/hdc <--- to change to /dev/hdc device
[22:01] * Decco848 falling back
[22:02] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I think so but I have no idea where and I forgot to label it. Also, I used a dvd and I don't have access to a dvd reader right now.
[22:03] <daftykins> borrowed an external optical drive the last time, or something?
[22:05] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: no, my laptop's docking station has one and I leave it in my robotics room at another building
[22:05] <daftykins> brodul: bit old school using 'hdc' today, no? :)
[22:05] <ich_> daftykins, in the bios settings I can just adjust the intel graphics memory
[22:05] <marcanuy> How can I solve this dependency problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13375530/ I can't configure libssl and it breaks all my other packages dependencies
[22:06] <daftykins> ich_: alright, often the Lenovos are pretty bad at working with the hybrid graphics options - if you boot with the 3.19 kernel again, can you share an X log from that?
[22:06] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ah ok. hmm, at TTY1 can you run "sudo apt-get -f install" and report whether it does anything?
[22:07] <ille> marcanuy: if u do sudo apt-get install libssl do u got anything?
[22:08] <marcanuy> ille: "E: Unable to locate package libssl" (ubuntu 15.10)
[22:08] <ille> marcanuy: if u run udo apt-get install openssl
[22:08] <ille> sudo apt-get install openssl *
[22:08] <ille> openssl should include libssl
[22:09] <ich_> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/vjtjk0tm
[22:09] <marcanuy> ille: tries to install it and then "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured"
[22:09] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: a lot of stuff came up but it looks like there are no issues, at the end it said 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 75 not upgraded.
[22:09] <daftykins> ich_: is it possible you at any point blacklisted nouveau or similar?
[22:09] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ah, not upgraded isn't ideal though. hmm hang on
[22:10] <ille> marcanuy: did u google? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1924941
[22:11] <ich_> daftykins, "blacklist uas". I removed this line
[22:12] <ich_> daftykins, this was because I had (or have) a problem with an usb flash drive
[22:12] <daftykins> ich_: ah i see you found two logs this time; can you check the date and time on both of those with "ls -al /var/log" and tell me if they were definitely your most recent boot or not?
[22:12] <BottomNotch> Lol, your like Superman daftykins, helping everyone at once
[22:13] <marcanuy> ille: yes, I've been there, I've spent the last 4 hours with this issue :,(
[22:13] <daftykins> it wasn't very wise XD it's quite confusing this :D
[22:13] <ich_> daftykins, this time? I can see my actual date and time
[22:14] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: well I appreciate it.
[22:16] <daftykins> ich_: would it be accurate to say that you've tried a lot of modifications with drivers already to try and resolve this one?
[22:16] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I'm getting kinda tired of this, maybe I should just restore a backup and try to install lxde.
[22:17] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I am having a really big problem I tried installing bumblebee today but it didn't work, so I tried uninstalling it and now I can't use my nvidia 960m, every time I reboot the option in the x server settings gets switched to the intel card and when I just relog, the screen goes black for a few seconds then goes back to the login screen
[22:17] <timg___> hi, i am looking for a printer with scanner with great ubuntu support. any idea?
[22:17] <daftykins> BottomNotch: i'm a fan of xfce, installing from xubuntu media is the best way - modifying a unity install goes pear shaped easily :)
[22:17] <daftykins> timg___: picking hardware might be better in ##linux really
[22:17] <OerHeks> timg___, check the openprinting database
[22:18] <timg___> thanks, i am going to take a look
[22:19] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: yeah, I can see that. I wonder if I would have these issues if I hadn't purged unity after installing xfce
[22:19] <ich_> daftykins, mby. I installed the 4.3 kernel. inside the "additional dirvers" window I selected the nvidia (proprietary, tested) driver. after a restart and a black screen I purged nvidia*. after that I tried nvidia-352... purged it... so yes I think so
[22:20] <OerHeks> ..good to tell that afterwards.. removing unity
[22:20] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ah. didn't know that part :D
[22:20] <daftykins> OerHeks: +1
[22:21] <daftykins> ich_: oh and that's it? odd. i don't think the Lenovos tend to play ball with hybrid graphics so much. can you share a "dmesg" ?
[22:21] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: yeah it just now occured to me to mention that
[22:21] <Bashing-om> BottomNotch: "purged unity after installing xfce" can rip out a lot of things in the system . Might be as you guess better served now to do a clean fresh install of the desired DE .
[22:21] <ich_> http://termbin.com/o1s5
[22:21] <ich_> daftykins, http://termbin.com/o1s5
[22:22] <daftykins> BottomNotch: +1 to Bashing-om 's suggestion, i'd focus on making some live media if you can
[22:22] <daftykins> ich_: just going to look up the downloads for this system, T450s you said... may i ask what country you're in for which Lenovo site to browse?
[22:22] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: what live media should I make?
[22:22] <serses> can i update the linux kernel if i downloaded the latest kernerl?
[22:23] <daftykins> BottomNotch: if you want to try out Xfce, xubuntu 14.04.3 for an LTS release would be great
[22:23] <OerHeks> serses, sure, by hand
[22:23] <serses> how?
[22:23] <ich_> daftykins, austria. yes, T450s with a 940m
[22:23] <daftykins> serses: if you're talking about from kernel.org then that's not supported
[22:23] <serses> i install it as dpkg?
[22:23] <serses> i have a .deb file
[22:23] <OerHeks> serses, you really *need* a reason to do so, take the kernel from mainline
[22:24] <OerHeks> !mainline
[22:24] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: so your suggesting a fresh install?
[22:25] <OerHeks> serses, make sure you use the open videodriver, else you might need to fix those
[22:25] <daftykins> BottomNotch: yep
[22:25] <daftykins> BottomNotch: or get yourself somewhere you can use a wired network connection perhaps
[22:26] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I've always been where I can get a wired connection, I'm only a few feet away from my router
[22:26] <n0000b> hi I have a Killer 1535 wifi card in my laptop and I cannot get it to work with ubuntu
[22:26] <n0000b> I followed the instructions on the killer website
[22:26] <n0000b> but one of the commands is generating an error
[22:27] <n0000b> I would really appreciate it if someone could please help me out
[22:27] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ah ok, hop on it and try "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade" then after that, "sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop"
[22:27] <OerHeks> n0000b, what does lspci or lsusb say about that device?
[22:27] <OerHeks> the 8 digit hex number gives a clue about chipset
[22:27] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: ok, I tell you how it goes
[22:28] <n0000b> 06:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 32)
[22:28] <n0000b> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0cf3:e301 Atheros Communications, Inc.
[22:28] <n0000b> Those are the outputs
[22:29] <daftykins> ich_: ok so already the newest BIOS, mmm it's not really behaving anyway which i'd expect, did you do an EFI install?
[22:30] <zidsal> has anyone managed to get ubuntu installed on the new dell xps13? when I try to install it from my usb it can't find my hard drive. Any help would be amazing
[22:30] <ich_> daftykins, how can I check this? xD
[22:31] <daftykins> ich_: ah it doesn't matter. do you have your 15.04 boot USB or DVD to hand still?
[22:32] <ich_> daftykins, no
[22:33] <daftykins> ich_: can you make one?
[22:34] <ich_> daftykins, yes. but what for if I may ask?
[22:36] <hubbunny> hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu as a dual boot with windows 7. My disk has 4 current partitions. If I want to install ubuntu alongside windows 7 I understand I have to remove a partition or change from primary to logical. Can anyone advise the best option?
[22:36] <daftykins> ich_: i'd like to see a 'dmesg' of a live session booting
[22:36] <daftykins> hubbunny: what are you typing from now?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> zidsal: Residual meta data on the drives ? what returns ' sudo wipefs /dev/sda ' Note that you should not just trust me that that command is safe (even though it is), you should run "man wipefs" and confirm for yourself that the command will just list all visible filesystems (and in this case, RAID metadata) and their offsets.
[22:36] <hubbunny> my 7 machine
[22:37] <hubbunny> daftykins
[22:37] <daftykins> hubbunny: run diskmgmt.msc and share a screenshot of the disk to imgur.com please
[22:37] <hubbunny> daftykins grand gimme two secs
[22:37] <zidsal> Bashing-om will try that in a second just noticed that raid enabled I will add that this is a brand enw laptop
[22:38] <OerHeks> n0000b, some equal devices need the atheros 10k firmware, http://www.killernetworking.com/support/knowledge-base/17-linux/20-killer-wireless-ac-in-linux-ubuntu-debian
[22:38] <OerHeks> and this > http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation/691563
[22:38] <hubbunny> daftykins here you go https://imgur.com/WTzMqUS
[22:39] <wilde> two partition haven't a file system
[22:39] <Bashing-om> zidsal: A desktop install will not deal with raid .. that is the realm of a 'server' install .. else there are several hoops to jump through to utilize raid in a desk top situation .
[22:40] <hubbunny> wilde one is for the ubuntu install
[22:40] <serses> if download the latest ubuntu will it come with the newest kernel?
[22:40] <wilde> ok.but fle system is needed.fat32 and 512mb of swap
[22:40] <daftykins> hubbunny: if you run "msinfo32" also, do you see a "BIOS Mode" entry in the right portion?
[22:40] <zidsal> Bashing-om turning off raid solved the issues
[22:40] <zidsal> don't know why it was enabled by default on my laptop
[22:41] <Bashing-om> zidsal: :) .
[22:42] <hubbunny> daftykins 'BIOS Mode' being the name of the item? no I don't just 'BIOS Version' and 'SMBIOS'
[22:43] <daftykins> hubbunny: alrighty, do you plan to use just that spare 20GB for Ubuntu or to give it some more?
[22:44] <hubbunny> daftykins well for now it was just for Ubuntu. I would however like to have a fresh install with basic space set for win7 and Ubuntu and the rest of the drive set up as shared but that can wait.
[22:47] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: dist-upgrade finsished, about to install xubuntu, cross your fingers!
[22:47] <Bashing-om> BottomNotch: Has my attention .
[22:48] <pilne> am... i missing something or is chrome not in the 15.10 repos? i can find chromium, but not chrome
[22:48] <Seveas> pilne: you're not missing anything.
[22:48] <OerHeks> pilne, correct.
[22:49] <pilne> is it missing for a reason that i missed somewhere?
[22:49] <OerHeks> You need the deb from the google site, it installs the downloadpackage & key
[22:49] <waressearcher2> there is that tool "free" it shows RAM usage is there some tool that shows what memory kernel uses ? like that variable vm.min_free_kbytes it sents some amount for kernel to use, so how to find out how much kernel uses now of that limit ?
[22:50] <OerHeks> waressearcher2, top
[22:50] <OerHeks> or install htop, my favorite
[22:51] <pilne> so.. blargh, i have to *manually* do updates for something?? not just apt-get update/upgrade? >.< lol
[22:51] <daftykins> pilne: no Google's package installs a PPA, then it can get updated - don't blame Ubuntu for Google's actions :)
[22:51] <OerHeks> pilne, no, that package provides the gpg key so it can update
[22:52] <pilne> ahhhh, so it is just a silly ass way of google doing things >.<
[22:52] <OerHeks> and ppa indeed
[22:52] <Bashing-om> pilne: Depends on what that "something" is . If it is of our repo .. that is all that is required .
[22:52] <user> ls
[22:52] <OerHeks> they do not allow us to distribute chrome.
[22:52] <daftykins> hubbunny: in my experience if you don't do it now, you never will :) i see some messy partitions on there indeed from a factory install, 7 typically only has 2 partitions when installed in BIOS legacy mode.
[22:52] * pilne makes a note that google can do some silly-ass shit too
[22:52] <OerHeks> firefox btw is also just the metapackage.
[22:53] <daftykins> hubbunny: anywho, i think 20GB will be quite tight depending on if you want to use sleep or hibernate at all
[22:53] <pilne> fair enough, i wonder why google doesn't want the metapackage in the repos
[22:53] <OerHeks> pilne, me too.
[22:53] <daftykins> since it's closed source i guess it's not allowed in
[22:53] <Bashing-om> pilne: As I understand it .. chromium is the test bed for google-chrome .
[22:54] <pilne> yeah... i'm too old to be test-bedding shit i have no intention of contributing to at the moment :p
[22:54] <hubbunny> daftykins haha thats a true point. I'm just hesitate as I've alot of software installed I need and it would be a pain to resinstall them all. Actually I want to use the ubuntu partition to install Snort IDS for a project. I can afford to allocatate more space to that partition.
[22:54] <waressearcher2> OerHeks: top only shows what RAM system uses, I need those kernel's buffers
[22:54] <daftykins> hubbunny: sounds like you'd be better off with a VM in virtualbox
[22:55] <hubbunny> daftykins hmm well I have been planning to dual boot with Ubuntu for a while to have it as daily user.
[22:56] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: xubuntu-desktop installed
[22:56] <daftykins> boot13: and reboot!
[22:56] <hubbunny> daftykins I'm just wondering whats the best plan of action for installing ubuntu now. As I understand it Ubuntu will not install alongside my Win7 if there are 4 primary partitions
[22:57] <daftykins> hubbunny: have you prepared a flash drive with ubuntu yet?
[22:57] <hubbunny> daftykins I have. but when I try to install the only option is to install inside not alongside
[22:57] <daftykins> are you sure you're not just trying to run the wubi.exe that's on there? we don't support that
[22:58] <daftykins> you definitely booted from it yeah?
[22:58] <bprompt> hubbunny: 4primary is fine, ubuntu can use either of the 3 that aren't being used by windows
[22:59] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: it was hanging at the boot animation, rebootng
[22:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: Back and ready
[22:59] <zidsal> I've got another quick question. I've installed ubuntu on my dell xps and there is a known issue where you cannot get internet on it until you install bcmwl-kernel-source. However when I try and install the .deb files I get errors. I was wodnering if anyone knew an alternative way I could quickly get internet e.g. via my phone? so I can install the file from apt-get
[22:59] <hubbunny> daftykins perhaps thats the issue, I followed a guide using usbinstaller to set the usbdrive as bootable. should I do it a different way to avoid using the Wubi.exe?
[22:59] <daftykins> bprompt: no it already has 4 is the point, already got this one in hand :)
[23:00] <daftykins> hubbunny: well you need to restart out of Windows and then boot the PC from that flash drive - is that what you did, or?
[23:00] <hubbunny> daftykins yes thats what I did
[23:00] <Bashing-om> the_count: I jere too .. OK.. We clean up the /boot partition . We want to keep the kernel that the touchpad is compatible with . Do you know which it is ?
[23:00] <daftykins> hubbunny: it'd be handy if you could come back on here to run a few commands from ubuntu - you can use webchat if you're not already to get on here
[23:01] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is there any way we can get a list of installed kernels so I don't have to shut down and restart again?
[23:01] <pilne> has anyone gotten steam to work without command line fuckery in 15.10 yet?
[23:01] <micl_> hi
[23:02] <hubbunny> daftykins, I'm using xchat so I can switch to web. So if I simply select try ubuntu vs install will that work?
[23:02] <daftykins> hubbunny: yeah it'll start a live session to work from
[23:02] <hubbunny> daftykins grand be back in a min so
[23:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[23:03] <bprompt> zidsal: http://ftp.psu.ru/linux/ubuntu/pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/ <---- you could try installing manually, the 6.30 would be the lastest one, use that and do a -> sudo dpkg -i YOURFILE.deb <- to install it
[23:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: That's not going to work, I'll restart and get it from there... I'm not going to be able to narrow it down from the items on the list
[23:04] <SupaYoshi> hi guys, im trying to setup a kvm-qemu virtualserver, however i am having an hard time doing it on ubuntu server.
[23:04] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: it booted, I logged in and now I just have a blue background with a mouse and my cursor, no other UI elements
[23:04] <SupaYoshi> Can anyone help me out? I had some tutorials, and they are talking about virt-manager, and this is where I get stuck.
[23:05] <ModFather> Hi There, can i install Ubuntu MATE version to Raspberry Pi 1 ( 2011 model ) ?
[23:05] <zidsal> bprompt I will try that bluetooth tethering from my phone isn't working
[23:05] <daftykins> BottomNotch: ok, same trick to get to TTY1 then "sudo apt install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:05] <daftykins> ModFather: #ubuntu-arm might be of use
[23:06] <cheetahw26> I'm upgrading some custom software from ubuntu 12 to 14, but it seems a lot of the packages we were using are not available... is there a way to add the old repository to install some of them?
[23:07] <hubbunny> daftykins: Back in live session now
[23:07] <daftykins> hubbunny: if you run the terminal program, "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" will produce a link to share here
[23:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: The origional and working kernel is 3.16.0-30-generic and current is 3.19.0-33-generic
[23:08] <hubbunny> daftykins: http://termbin.com/qtlz
[23:09] <bprompt> cheetahw26: I'd say nope, can you include the old repository? yes, will the package work with new libraries in 14? nope, the older apps may require specific versions of the library, and the 14 install may have a newer version, or may do without it since it's functionality may have been grouped onto another lib
[23:09] <zidsal> sweet got it working via usb tethering
[23:09] <daftykins> hubbunny: mmm so it is indeed as you feared, you'll either need to backup your data; try using a GUI partition tool on ubuntu there to delete partition 2 and then move the resulting ones back to the front of the drive so you only have 3, or just wipe the lot and start from scratch
[23:10] <daftykins> hubbunny: you might have a factory recovery disc set to burn to DVD / create ISO files from on that Windows install from that current 21.5GB partition 2.
[23:11] <daftykins> hubbunny: though personally i just clean install from official vanilla windows 7 media
[23:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; so we need a list of what is installed . ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' and we then remove old kernels.
[23:12] <hubbunny> daftykins: hmm ok thanks for looking. I presume I can just download a win7 iso and install fresh and ubuntu after
[23:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: Mighty long list here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13377437/
[23:12] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: sorry that took so long, I kept trying to do apt-get instead of apt-get install :p paste.ubuntu.com/13377403/
[23:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: So i expected ..take me a bit to cradt the removal commands.
[23:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Have fun I guess is the least I can say...
[23:14] <daftykins> hubbunny: yeah, i think there's still a legit MS page to grab one proper - not sure if this works https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7
[23:14] <hubbunny> daftykins: thanks very much I'll do this in the morn.
[23:15] <daftykins> hubbunny: np :)
[23:15] <the_count> daftykins: I'm supprised that they still host a page wor W7 downloads
[23:15] <daftykins> the_count: they did, they were all pulled due to newer versions being out
[23:16] <daftykins> the_count: oh you mean that they do, i don't know if it works. US only site too.
[23:16] <daftykins> anyway, off topic here
[23:16] <daftykins> BottomNotch: hrmm can you double check "cat /etc/issue" ?
[23:17] <the_count> daftykins: I try to keep those ISO's around, and yes, the second one, I hope hubbunny has a product key
[23:17] <daftykins> the_count: same here, but still off topic
[23:18] <the_count> daftykins: Right
[23:18] <kauwa> what exactly is the channel topic?
[23:18] <daftykins> type "/topic" and you'll see
[23:18] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: it just shows Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[23:19] <daftykins> or read the top line in your client
[23:19] <daftykins> kauwa: short version: support, support... and more support.
[23:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. been problems for a while ! .. let's take a gentle poke at it ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-41-generic ' See what the poke yields .
[23:19] <kauwa> #ubuntu : you're not a channel operator. Thank God for that!
[23:19] <daftykins> BottomNotch: "ls -al /home/username/ | pastebinit" ?
[23:21] <the_count> Bashing-om: Looks good to me... I think that was the kernel which we first installed long ago... There were no errors.
[23:21] <BottomNotch> paste.ubuntu.com/13377678/
[23:22] <kauwa> I'm having problems with wine running MetaTrader 5
[23:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: 'sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-45-generic ' .
[23:23] <bazhang> !appdb | kauwa
[23:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: Good
[23:23] <bazhang> /join #winehq for that kauwa
[23:23] <kauwa> thanks Mr. ubottu
[23:24] <Bashing-om> the_count: Next : ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.19.0-25-generic ' .
[23:24] <mrrellik> join /#Hak5
[23:26] <the_count> Bashing-om: Good, and do you know at the moment how to speed the pointer up, this is very handicapping.. It is at max in settings, although it may be a part of the xorg problems we were dealing with, I would suppect it is as with the origional kernel, the pointer is at normal speed
[23:26] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch .. see this "rc linux-image-extra-3.16.0-30-generic" the start of the problem . where 'rc' is removed - yeah thge kernel that works ! but config files remian . When we can we will RE-Install this one .
[23:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: What does that mean/imply?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> the_count: As to the pointer . must be in the settings for the touchpad, that at this time you can not access .. - my best guess - .
[23:27] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I uninstalled bumblebee today and now I cant use my gtx 960m
[23:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: That makes sense
[23:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: The -30 kernel, can say no more about it . To our present work ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-41-generic ; .
[23:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: I meant, what does the ' rc ' mean?
[23:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: And this one removes succesfully, although it didn't give nearly as long of list as it was being removed
[23:31] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: my orc client crashed, have you told me to do anything else?
[23:32] <BottomNotch> My irc client, dang autocorrect
[23:32] <Bashing-om> the_count: "rc" is (R)emoved, (C)onfig files remain . Next is ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-45-generic ' .
[23:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I see, and removed succesfully
[23:33] <AlexQ> Hi. After upgrading to Xubuntu 15.10, booting freezes after some time. However, I can successfully boot into Recovery mode, and from there boot even further to desktop, although with an enormous number of "System problem detected" windows on top of one another that are there from the very beginning.
[23:33] <AlexQ> So, I guess a good starting point would be checking the boot log from the normal boot. How can I do that? When booting normally, the splash screen freezes and I can't switch to another vterm usint Ctrl+Alt+Fn
[23:35] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I uninstalled bumblebee today and now I cant use my gtx 960m
[23:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: And, there is another couple ' rc ' further down the list as well
[23:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.16.0-{46,48,50,51,52,53,}-generic '
[23:36] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: my orc client crashed, have you told me to do anything else?
[23:36] <daftykins> BottomNotch: sorry had to step away for a sec, is your username really 'username' or did you edit it? :D
[23:36] <the_count> BAshing-om: Do I enter that command as is, or one at a time cycling through the options?
[23:36] <daftykins> BottomNotch: anyway "sudo chown -R username: /home/username/" then reboot with "sudo shutdown -r 0"
[23:37] <BottomNotch> My username really is username ☺
[23:37] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch .. I got side tracked and missed those other 'rc' go ahead and take them out too at this time .// That command ^^ as is .. crafted for your use .
[23:37] <daftykins> heh
[23:38] <telldrak> Hello
[23:38] <ichdasich> heho
[23:38] <bprompt> allo
[23:39] <micronottee> hi, does cat have any file size limit?
[23:39] <AlexQ> For some reason, it seems that my Intel driver is still from oibaf ppa. git-99840eb 2015-11-20 vivid-oibaf-ppa
[23:39] <ichdasich> is there a valid security contact process for canonical infrastructure?
[23:39] <the_count> BAshing-om: Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378229/ was the result of that command, and remove the other 'rc' as I did for the others?
[23:39] <Guy1524> hey guys, so I uninstalled bumblebee today and now I cant use my gtx 960m
[23:39] <telldrak> So, I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, but have managed to sort out a lot on my own. I've got to a point where I could use some assistance. I have a web-server running on Ubuntu 14.04 on Digital Ocean, and have Apache2/MySQL/PHP5 on it. I am trying to get sendmail set up for it. I have three domains running, and need to get mail going for two of them
[23:39] <bprompt> AlexQ: I'd think it'd be at /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log which IIRC you can just get by using "dmesg"
[23:40] <telldrak> I'd greatly appreciate some resources if you have some that you think would be helpful
[23:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378229/ . yeah .. just substitute the correct version version number . should be clear at this point fot the 'rc' kernels .
[23:41] <AlexQ> micronottee: I don't think so, it uses standard input/output mostly, so limited by the filesystem I guess
[23:42] <bprompt> telldrak: did you mean to post that at #ubuntu-server ?
[23:42] <AlexQ> bprompt: Nothing there. I think Xorg logs are somewhere else. What is IIRC?
[23:42] <telldrak> bprompt: Now that I'm aware of it, I'd imagine so. Thank you :)
[23:43] <bprompt> AlexQ: IIRC irc ling for If I Recall Correctly =)
[23:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Aparently none of those 'rc' are installed
[23:43] <bprompt> s/ling/&o/
[23:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Onesec... that wasn't right
[23:43] <AlexQ> bprompt: Thanks. dmesg is a general boot log, and X.org log is something else, but I guess X is also worth checking
[23:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Try again ' sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.16.0-{46,48,50,51,52,53}-generic ' silly little comma I had but in . removed now .. should run .
[23:44] <BottomNotch> chown: missing operand after 'username:/home/username/'
[23:44] <bprompt> AlexQ: done an "fsck" yet while at the recovery mode? from a root shell
[23:44] <AlexQ> yeah, it was fine
[23:45] <tron103> Is it possible to generate a d-i netboot initrd.gz+kernel from a working system?
[23:46] <bprompt> AlexQ: I assume " sudo apt-get check " turns up nothing..... wondering if some package isn't configured, couldn't hur to do a " sudo dpkg --configure -a "
[23:46] <AlexQ> I did reconfigure as well
[23:47] <bprompt> rats!....ok
[23:47] <AlexQ> bprompt: I had problems with apt as well, but these seem to be resolved
[23:47] <AlexQ> How do I remove a ppa?
[23:47] <the_count> Bashing-om: This one will not remove, says it is not installed but is still in the list when I rerun it: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-25-generic '
[23:47] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | AlexQ
[23:47] <AlexQ> I thought it's not there anymore, but it seems I have my graphics driver from a custom ppa with newer driver. Would like to purge that and try to install the official one
[23:48] <bprompt> k
[23:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Wow, that's a whole 1.1gb to remove of kernel's...
[23:48] <telldrak> heh. Crickets in #ubuntu-server
[23:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: It's removing these files and giving warnings that kernel headers are missing, and installing these headers will fix the problem
[23:50] <bprompt> telldrak: well, crickets are better than cockroaches methings =)
[23:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sorry, you have lost me .. no idea what linux-image-extra-3.16.0-25-generic relates to . It does not in fact exidr . Need hand holding ?
[23:50] <bprompt> thinks rather, shoot, typo
[23:50] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[23:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: It was one of the 'rc'. You should find it on that previous pastebin
[23:51] <daftykins> BottomNotch: anyway "sudo chown -R username: /home/username/" (space after the :) then reboot with "sudo shutdown -r 0"
[23:51] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: chown: missing operand after 'username:/home/username/'
[23:51] <telldrak> bprompt: perhaps, but I need to get somewhere on this asap. I have two store sites that haven't sent any e-mail in a couple of weeks. :/
[23:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: Bashing-om: You can see what I am trying to say here, look at the warnings... My terminal is also set to only hold a linited number of lines, so only part of it is there. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378569/
[23:52] <AlexQ> bazhang: PPA to be removed: oibaf graphics-drivers
[23:52] <AlexQ> Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: oibaf graphics-drivers
[23:52] <BottomNotch> Ok hold on
[23:52] <genii> daftykins: You can use chown username. or username :groupname
[23:52] <genii> daftykins: ...but not username:
[23:53] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am now confused where we are and what is happening . square 3 : ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-41-generic ' the -30 kernel we want to KEEP .
[23:53] <daftykins> genii: sure i can, username: makes it username:username auto
[23:53] <AlexQ> bazhang: But it seems I still have a package from that ppa. So after purging that package and installing it again I should get the original one, yeah?
[23:54] <genii> daftykins: Doesn't work here.
[23:54] <AlexQ> bazhang: But of course it would be best to replace all packages from that ppa with the original ones
[23:54] <bazhang> AlexQ, the official one you want is from where
[23:54] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I sent you a couple entirely different things, when you told me to remove sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-25-generic
[23:55] <Bashing-om> the_count: "http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378569/" that output looks great . to be expected that the ystem rebuilds as kernels are removed .
[23:55] <daftykins> genii: weird, what's your example? fine here on 14.04
[23:55] <BottomNotch> Dadtykins: I did what genii said
[23:55] <AlexQ> bazhang: From normal Ubuntu repos, main probably. Ops, I guess it's from Ubu repo. Talking about xserver-xorg-video-intel. Version: 2:2.99.917+git1511200733.f6e931~gd~v Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <[email protected]>
[23:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: That one was an 'rc' But I cannot remove it... It says that it is not installed but still populates thelist
[23:55] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[23:55] <daftykins> BottomNotch: you just didn't have a space where one was needed; anyway as long as "ls -al /home/username/" shows all but ".." as owned by username:username ; you can reboot
[23:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: And you just referred to the other part I was trying to tell you.. You got it
[23:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: I may have messed up .. too much on my mind .. the -25 kernel relates to the 3.19.0 (19!!) series .
[23:56] <AlexQ> bazhang: It was dpkg -s. So it is so new? 20th of Nov '15?
[23:56] <BottomNotch> I put a space where you said and got the same message
[23:56] <bprompt> telldrak: http://effectivewebdesigns.blogspot.com/2013/04/how-to-set-up-sendmail-on-your-ubuntu.html#.Vk-1wedB0ok or http://askubuntu.com/questions/47609/how-to-have-my-php-send-mail maybe?
[23:57] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am now lost ... from square one ..a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . See if I can get us a level playing field .
[23:58] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I rebooted, same issue as before
[23:58] <bprompt> telldrak: there's a channel #open_atrium that seems to be LAMP based, just a few folks though
[23:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't think you are confuzing youself, the 3.19.0-33-generic is current... We were removing everything but the ' 3.16.0-30-generic ', the one which works
[23:58] <daftykins> BottomNotch: are those files ok on the ownership front as mentioned? i think it's time to give up.
[23:59] <BottomNotch> Yeah they were
[23:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: This is current: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378749/ from ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '
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[16:23] <balloons> ohh my flocculant, what's this? http://162.213.34.238:8080/job/ubiquity_ap-xubuntu_devel_daily-test_custom_install/
[17:12] <flocculant> \o/
[17:12] <flocculant> balloons: nice :)
[17:13] <flocculant> even if it is a fail :p
[18:23] <dkessel> Yay! \o/
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-cn
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[01:08] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • Intel 顯卡 開源驅動 安裝程式 1.2.1 發行 支援 15.10 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473951 https://01.org/zh/linuxgraphics/downloa ... redirect=1 Intel Graphics Installer 1.2.1 for Linux* 如果你使用 ubuntu 15.10 但是對於 預裝的 Intel 顯卡驅動 i915 支援程度 還不滿意 請利用 Intel 公司 剛
[01:08] <^k^> ─> 剛發行的 Intel 顯卡 開源驅動 安裝程式 1.2.1 安裝 開源驅動及搭配的開源支援程式 zz: polo …
[01:40] <kandu> yunfan: 是啊.哭天抢地地求啊
[01:54] <onlylove> yunfan: 昨天在京东看到个众筹无人机，静静
[02:01] <pity> 我在 tmux 里 open ~/Downloads 会提示 LSOpenURLsWithRole() failed with error -600 for the file /Users/pity/Downloads. 不在 tmux 里则正常，但之前一直正常的
[02:02] <pity> drwx------+ 261 pity staff 8.7K Nov 20 09:39 Downloads
[02:02] <pity> 不知道又乱改啥导致的 :(
[02:03] <c32> 终于进来了。
[02:03] <c32> hello
[02:03] <ubrl> c32:点点点. 10:01
[02:04] <c32> 有没有封装好的 UB系统
[02:05] <c32> 3D特效非常好的
[02:10] <SwordCN> ubuntu 的unity 和 unity3d 引擎有关系吗
[02:10] <c32> 不知道。。。
[02:48] <rothsdad> hi
[02:48] <ubrl> rothsdad:点点点. 10:45
[02:48] <rothsdad> 有折腾过nfc和吗
[02:49] <rothsdad> 有折腾过nfc和m1卡的童靴吗
[03:17] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 诸葛亮的抱怨 : 刘备三顾茅庐,诸葛亮终于答应出山。来到卧龙岗下,诸葛亮环顾四周好长时间,刘备忙问:"先生在找什么呢?" 诸葛亮回答:"你这人真是小气！路途如此遥远,你也不开辆宝马来接我！"
[04:36] <onlylove__> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46236
[04:36] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 中国打造自己的安全智能手机
[04:37] <onlylove__> 展讯要翻身？
[04:37] <onlylove__> 运行阿里云OS么，呵呵呵
[04:37] <onlylove__> 炬力啥时候碾压展讯啊
[04:38] <onlylove__> allwinner也成啊
[04:42] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ubuntu怎么控制主板上风扇转速 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473952 有没有能在系统里控制pwm风扇转速的东西呢？ 怎么去的主板的监控数据呢？ zz: smallcsduck — 2015-11-20 12:41
[04:44] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ubuntu15.10多屏幕怎么没有设置主屏幕的选项 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473953 不能设置主屏幕啊 有什么办法么？ zz: smallcsduck — 2015-11-20 12:43
[04:46] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ubuntu15.10多屏幕怎么没有设置主屏幕的选项 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473954 不能设置主屏幕啊 有什么办法么？ zz: smallcsduck — 2015-11-20 12:44
[04:47] <onlylove> yunfan: http://news.chinabyte.com/277/13608777.shtml
[04:47] <ubrl> onlylove: ⇪ 自拍新神器 无人机静静登陆京东众筹_新闻中心_比特网
[04:50] <Ian|zh_CN> 众筹好做吗？
[04:51] <Ian|zh_CN> !
[04:51] <Ian|zh_CN> ~
[04:55] <netsnail> phpldapadmin中文乱码，有人遇到过吗？
[04:56] <netsnail> ou为中文或者cn为中文时的情况
[04:59] <onlylove> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46233
[04:59] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 研究人员在中国发现超级耐药细菌
[05:00] <onlylove> 中医里面的人血馒头……
[05:00] <onlylove> 简直无所不用其极了
[05:00] <onlylove> 人血馒头和中医有半毛钱关系！
[05:01] <onlylove> netsnail: 自己看系统locale支持，gb2312 gbk utf8
[05:01] <onlylove> netsnail: 哦，对了，还有浏览器编码，ff不会自动切换
[05:03] <onlylove> netsnail: 如果这些都试过了，还有php设置……
[05:04] <onlylove> netsnail: 再然后还不好用，我也不知道该怎么办了
[05:30] <netsnail> onlylove: 这些都不是原因啊
[05:31] <netsnail> 程序的问题
[05:32] <netsnail> 开源软件有时候真费劲啊
[05:35] <nyfair> 开源就是原罪
[05:35] <onlylove__> netsnail: 程序的问题怎么讲，你在utf8的环境上运行gb2312的程序？
[05:35] <onlylove__> nyfair: 拜牛牛姐
[05:35] <^k^> onlylove__: ok nyfair => 拜牛牛姐
[05:35] <onlylove__> nyfair: MangHuo昨天说要问你假名的问题
[05:36] <nyfair> onlylove: 让那家伙去风俗店问
[05:36] <netsnail> onlylove__: 我全都UTF8的环境
[05:36] <nyfair> 然而win10用utf-16le的locale运行gb2312程序并没有问题
[05:36] <netsnail> onlylove__: 就是没法处理中文
[05:37] <nyfair> 地址utf-8，中日韩人人有责
[05:37] <nyfair> 抵制
[05:37] <onlylove__> nyfair: windows都这样，很有意思，不过偶尔有不灵的时候
[05:38] <nyfair> onlylove: 然而windows切换locale也就是一行cmd的事，并没有比linux复杂
[05:38] <onlylove__> nyfair: 主要是我想不明白windows记事本默认的ansi到底是咋回事，因为里面的中文在linux下面必须有正确的locale打开
[05:39] <onlylove__> nyfair: 但是windows下面可以随意打开gb2312和utf8
[05:39] <nyfair> onlylove: 说明没人用记事本啊，你看记事本打开1m的文件就得卡死了
[05:39] <onlylove__> nyfair: 我说的是ansi编码
[05:39] <nyfair> 默认不是gbk么
[05:40] <nyfair> 记事本的
[05:40] <onlylove__> nyfair: 还有，你口胡，我用记事本看过8M的小说
[05:40] <nyfair> 只有在选择编码的时候可以看到有utf-8
[05:40] <onlylove__> nyfair: 不知道，保存的时候，默认是ansi，但是里面有中文，能神奇的存下来
[05:40] <nyfair> 那100m
[05:40] <onlylove__> nyfair: 100M……算你狠
[05:40] <nyfair> vim那种破烂都能打开100m
[05:41] <nyfair> 然而vim打开10g的一样崩
[05:42] <nyfair> 支那的everedit 鬼子的emeditor 毛子的ultraedit 打开10g完全没问题，然而打开100m就崩的notepad++和sublime反而流行起来了
[05:43] <onlylove__> nyfair: ue要钱，虽然它值那个钱
[05:43] <Ian|zh_CN> 应为免费
[05:43] <Ian|zh_CN> 因为
[05:43] <gfxmode> 今天周五了，真是开心
[05:43] <nyfair> 毛蛋，sublime你不花钱，隔三差五保存的时候给你弹窗
[05:44] <nyfair> everedit最多标题栏告诉你这是未注册版，比sublime良心多了
[05:44] <onlylove__> nyfair: winrar现在也不要钱，整天弹广告
[05:44] <nyfair> onlylove__: 那是winrar中文代理，rarlab有标准中文版的
[05:45] <onlylove__> nyfair: 还有，写那些工具的人，没想过要用那东西编辑10G的文件，他们的内存还没10G，装不下呢
[05:45] <nyfair> onlylove__: 那个没广告，只是超过30天后每次运行winrar弹5秒钟窗，但是你光解压就没弹窗
[05:45] <nyfair> onlylove__: 分段加载的
[05:45] <nyfair> onlylove__: 另外winrar算号器不是遍地都是么
[05:46] <nyfair> onlylove__: 另外新版的7z支持rar5，如果不压缩rar的话光用7z就够了
[05:46] <onlylove> nyfair: 当然分段加载，谁蠢到直接读整个文件进去
[05:46] <onlylove> nyfair: 我怀疑notepad就这么干的
[05:47] <onlylove> nyfair: 现在早不压rar了，直接压zip，win7直接能解压
[05:47] <nyfair> onlylove: zip不保存编码，你换个locale就难受了
[05:48] <onlylove> nyfair: 好像是的
[05:48] <onlylove> nyfair: 其实我觉得rar的好处是，中文密码
[05:49] <nyfair> onlylove: 嗯嗯，这个功能赞
[05:49] <nyfair> 然而7z也能中文密码
[05:49] <onlylove> MangHuo: 牛牛姐说了，假名问风俗店去，哦，就是问当当
[05:49] <nyfair> rar也是应该抵制的，因为他用utf-8
[05:50] <onlylove> 能了么？我不记得7z可以……
[05:50] <MangHuo> ....
[05:50] <MangHuo> nyfair: 啊，终于等到了
[05:50] <nyfair> 可以啊
[05:50] <onlylove> MangHuo: 赶紧拜牛牛姐
[05:50] <MangHuo> nyfair: 拜牛牛姐
[05:50] <nyfair> 我昨天还试过，这个不会错
[05:51] <onlylove> 话说7Z发新的正式版了，我还在用920貌似？反正就是上个正式版
[05:51] <nyfair> 10.11
[05:51] <nyfair> 7z的beta就是正式版，alpha才是测试版
[05:52] <onlylove> http://www.oschina.net/news/68226/7-zip-15-12
[05:52] <ubrl> onlylove: ⇪ 年来首个正式版：免费压缩软件 7-Zip 15.12 发布 - 开源中国社区
[05:53] <onlylove> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46238
[05:53] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 中望龙腾将盗窃AutoCAD源码责任推给工程师
[05:54] <onlylove> 中望CAD……
[05:55] <onlylove> MangHuo: 招行的明细怎么看，我忘了花了多钱，但是账单貌似不太对，除了微信之外
[05:58] <nyfair> MangHuo: 肿么了
[05:59] <onlylove> 你喵的，又要IE
[06:00] <MangHuo> nyfair: 昨天想跟你请教一句日语怎么说来着，买了个眼镜不会留言
[06:00] <onlylove> MangHuo: 这种事，你居然轻描淡写成假名的问题！ cc nyfair
[06:01] <MangHuo> onlylove: 开始是假名的问题，后来换了个名字解决了
[06:01] <MangHuo> nyfair: 上記ご注文の商品のレンズにつきまして、屈折率1.74レンズにて承りました, なお、ご希望のレンズは弊社在庫範囲外の為、特注レンズとして取り寄せとなっております｡
[06:01] <MangHuo> onlylove: 这句话 google 翻译出来的看不懂...
[06:01] <MangHuo> nyfair: 是没有库存让等的意思么
[06:01] <nyfair> MangHuo: 这简单，一句话就行。 やらないか
[06:02] <MangHuo> nyfair: 额，留言已经留了，本来想刘一句“请用 hoya 的 1.74 折射率镜片" 结果看它这个回复，好像没有提到牌子
[06:03] <onlylove> MangHuo: 你事情真多，咋不用萤石的
[06:03] <onlylove> MangHuo: 水晶的也成啊
[06:03] <iMadper> 哈?
[06:03] <iMadper> 你们都讨论这么高端的问题了?
[06:03] <onlylove> MangHuo: 还专门指定折射率
[06:03] <iMadper> 我才半个多月没来啊
[06:03] <^k^> iMadper: 拜地產壕
[06:04] <onlylove> iMadper: 不，MangHuo买了个眼镜，给人指定镜片材料
[06:04] <iMadper> onlylove: 就应该这样啊
[06:04] <iMadper> onlylove: 我支持斩斩.
[06:04] <nyfair> 2.0不知道眼镜是什么
[06:04] <nyfair> 找风俗店去
[06:05] <onlylove> nyfair: 眼睛是心灵的窗户，眼镜是窗户的窗帘
[06:05] <nyfair> 日本人又不是看不懂英文，装啥呢
[06:06] <onlylove> nyfair: 赞美牛牛姐，犀利吐槽
[06:07] <onlylove> 说这个，突然想起个故事，说是某日文专业的孩子出去旅行，然后遇到个人用蹩脚英文请教问题，然后那孩子英文也不好，最后两人聊了半天，那孩子发现对方是日本人
[06:07] <MangHuo> nyfair: 哦，就是请教一句翻译而已
[06:08] <MangHuo> nyfair: 不说不说呗，骂人干嘛
[06:08] <onlylove> iMadper: 求斩斩的心里阴影面积？
[06:09] <iMadper> onlylove1: 取决于斩斩能不能约到 nyfair
[06:09] <nyfair> 反正我去日本便利店买东西是听不懂的
[06:09] <iMadper> onlylove1: 不好计算的.
[06:09] <onlylove> MangHuo: 呐，要不要约下牛牛姐
[06:09] <nyfair> 日本便利店的人说的日语就跟中国医生写的中文一样
[06:10] <nyfair> 不说英文说啥
[06:13] <onlylove> nyfair: 大阪腔还是关西腔？
[06:13] <onlylove> 牛牛居然听不懂
[06:15] <nyfair> onlylove: 到哪边都一样，便利店日语已经不是方言的范畴了，就跟天朝医生写的药方一样
[06:21] <onlylove> nyfair: 如果那样，岂不是日本人也听不懂
[06:33] <MangHuo> onlylove: 日淘就是为了高折射率
[06:34] <onlylove> MangHuo: The Transporter Refueled看过没
[06:34] <MangHuo> onlylove: 木
[06:35] <hceasy> 有人收kindle 么.
[06:35] <^k^> hceasy: 拜哭熊
[06:36] <tryit> hceasy, 刚入手一台……
[06:36] <hceasy> tryit: 我那个499的闲置了 买了就用了两周 果断买1499 .
[06:36] <nyfair> 只看小黄漫，不看文字书
[06:38] <tryit> hceasy, 刚入的是958的那种
[06:39] <hceasy> tryit: 挂闲鱼上之后上来就有人问我...260 出不...
[06:39] <tryit> hceasy, 出呗，否则越来越贬值
[06:39] <hceasy> tryit: 还可以送朋友. 260出我还不如自己留着拆着玩.
[06:40] <tryit> 不过送人也不错 hceasy
[06:40] <onlylove__> 260……
[06:40] <onlylove__> 丧病
[06:40] <tryit> hceasy, 就是
[06:41] <hceasy> tryit: 就是想着说不定有人会需要 然后挂了390 发票什么都有. 亚马逊买的. 谁知道上来就碰到这么个丧心病狂的...260 ... 我还不如送朋友.
[06:42] <tryit> hceasy, .
[06:56] <onlylove> 又是泰康人寿，你喵的，这号码我要扔了！
[07:00] <yunfan> onlylove: 没卵用 续航上不去
[07:02] <hceasy> onlylove: 貌似我的号码也要扔了
[07:03] <hceasy> onlylove: 闲着蛋疼注册了一个公司. 然后各种骚扰电话.
[07:03] <^k^> 新 软件和文档翻译 • Ubuntu 适合做 Web 开发的人使用吗 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473955 对于web开发者 http://http://cn.developer.ubuntu.com/zh-cn/web/ 来说Web应用程序是至Ubuntu的最快通道。 Ubuntu web应用程序是显示于Ubuntu应用程序容器内部的web主控型网站。它们是用户可安装、查看、
[07:03] <onlylove__> yunfan: 给你玩自拍的要毛续航
[07:08] <onlylove__> 还不能把10690这个大号段屏蔽，真TM恶心
[07:10] <onlylove__> 发现狂按F5豆瓣会报错
[07:12] <iMadper> onlylove_: 厉害, 人肉dos.
[07:14] <onlylove__> iMadper: 你以为我想啊，我司网太渣，那页面图太多，刷不全，我就多按了几次，
[07:14] <NWMonster> onlylove_厉害。。。
[07:14] <onlylove__> iMadper: 不过现在不报错了，就第一次报了一个error
[07:14] <iMadper> onlylove_: 昂...
[07:15] <hceasy> on
[07:15] <hceasy> onlylove__: 试了下没用.
[07:15] <iMadper> hceasy: +1
[07:18] <onlylove__> hceasy: 要是能重现的话，估计早就修好了
[07:24] <MangHuo> onlylove1: 厉害啊
[07:25] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 穷, 于是x230延保了一年
[07:25] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 忘了改联通套餐，被薅走了 50 羊毛....
[07:25] <MangHuo> 马蛋，一年的羊毛白薅了
[07:26] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 延保多少钱啊
[07:26] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 打电话谈心
[07:26] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 200一年
[07:26] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 这么贵
[07:26] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 现在便宜了, 之前235一年
[07:26] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 淘宝比这个便宜吧
[07:26] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 就是淘宝价
[07:27] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 坏了的话修不起 于是买保险, 都买了三年了 啥也没坏
[07:27] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 不过有保修可能好卖一些
[07:27] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 额
[07:27] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 你用公司的本，就卖掉呗
[07:28] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 公司只有Mac, 用个毛
[07:30] <gfxmode> yurakucho: 贵公司真壕
[07:30] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 我想换186号段了
[07:30] <onlylove_> MangHuo: 现在这个移动号，垃圾短信多到我想扔
[07:30] <yurakucho> gfxmode: 我宁愿他给我换个一半价钱的thinkpad
[07:31] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 一半价钱，5K？
[07:31] <onlylove_> yurakucho: 那样的TP，凑合用？
[07:31] <yurakucho> onlylove_: 10K
[07:31] <happyaron> onlylove_: 换了联通你说不定也一样吐槽不止
[07:31] <MangHuo> onlylove_: 换
[07:31] <gfxmode> yurakucho: TP也有1W以上的呀，不比MAC便宜
[07:31] <yurakucho> gfxmode: 是啊, 我就说换成一万的Thinkpad
[07:32] <onlylove2> happyaron: 我愁的是各种垃圾短信
[07:32] <gfxmode> yurakucho: 壕。。。
[07:32] <onlylove___> gfxmode: 他意思是，他现在用着2W的MACBOOK
[07:33] <gfxmode> onlylove___: 嗯我看懂了，所以我说他壕
[07:33] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 换移动吧
[07:33] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 网速慢一点点, 但是覆盖和服务好太多
[07:33] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 移动最便宜的套餐有啥
[07:34] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 现在有三十多的4G套餐了
[07:34] <happyaron> onlylove2: 换个移动188号段
[07:34] <MangHuo> 通话有 100min 够了，有个来电提醒，流量
[07:34] <iMadper> MangHuo: 不够, 100min一晚上就用光了
[07:34] <onlylove2> happyaron: 135这种老号段真心没法用的感觉，估计159都比这强
[07:34] <MangHuo> iMadper: 忘了我有无限 skype
[07:34] <yurakucho> iMadper: 微信, skype...
[07:34] <iMadper> MangHuo: 哦, 赞赞哒
[07:34] <happyaron> onlylove2: 我母上的135几乎没有垃圾短信
[07:34] <onlylove2> happyaron: 188业务贵吧
[07:34] <iMadper> yurakucho: 微信不好用
[07:34] <happyaron> onlylove2: 移动业务和号段无关
[07:35] <iMadper> yurakucho: skype现在没有便宜套餐了吧?
[07:35] <onlylove2> happyaron: 我的159也没啥垃圾信息啊，主要是，前号主太能作
[07:35] <happyaron> onlylove2: 按号码分3g 4g还有套餐这种sb事情联通电信都干得出来
[07:35] <happyaron> onlylove2: 买个处女号咯
[07:35] <yurakucho> iMadper: 没太关注, 大不了用google hangouts 六七分一分钟, 随便打
[07:36] <happyaron> onlylove2: 我买主力号码的时候确定了是新放的号码
[07:36] <yurakucho> yurakucho: 还有一堆国内的免费网络电话
[07:36] <onlylove2> happyaron: 别说了，我昨天兴起去试了下QQ，然后发现号码被回收了
[07:36] <happyaron> onlylove2: 恭喜你
[07:36] <onlylove2> happyaron: 我有点想试试联通的号段，毕竟fdd的手机好买
[07:37] <yurakucho> happyaron: 5年前的150路过, 基本算是新号码 只有一个人用这号码刷光了浦发信用卡跑路了...
[07:37] <MangHuo> happyaron: 移动哪个号段好
[07:37] <gfxmode> QQ电话不错，我现在和家里打QQ电话，省了不少电话费
[07:37] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 越新越好
[07:37] <happyaron> onlylove2: tdd手机也不难买
[07:37] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 为啥
[07:37] <happyaron> onlylove2: 您的想法也太极端了点
[07:37] <happyaron> yurakucho: 嗯嗯
[07:37] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 遗留信息少？
[07:37] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 没被别人用过, 垃圾电话短信账号少
[07:37] <happyaron> MangHuo: 现在不知道了，我买的时候188号段刚开号
[07:37] <onlylove2> happyaron: 不，你看华为p7 移动无双卡
[07:37] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 你得到了它
[07:38] <happyaron> onlylove2: p7电信版不支持nfc
[07:38] * MangHuo 同情后来买走我的那个移动号码的人。。。
[07:38] <happyaron> onlylove2: 华为分型号这个事，也是脑残的表现
[07:38] <MangHuo> 会接到各种电话
[07:38] <onlylove2> happyaron: 我不需求nfc我只需求双卡
[07:38] <happyaron> onlylove2: 那何必绑死p7一款
[07:38] <happyaron> onlylove2: 爱疯都全型号tdd网络了
[07:39] <onlylove2> happyaron: 所以我看别的机器了，爱疯全网通好么，不过单卡，而且内存和flash
[07:39] <happyaron> onlylove2: fdd 手机就算好买，可是联通电信舍不得高密度部署，效果比移动差很多
[07:39] <onlylove2> happyaron: 这个倒是
[07:40] <happyaron> 内存尺寸在iphone上不太是个事，真的
[07:40] <happyaron> flash容量倒挺有关系
[07:40] * yurakucho 五模十一频+指纹+5"+NFC 重要性逐渐降低
[07:41] <onlylove> 俩端一起掉，简直了
[07:41] <onlylove> test
[07:41] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 15:38
[07:41] <happyaron> onlylove2: 另外tdd比fdd更适合高密度部署，原理如此
[07:41] <yurakucho> happyaron: 不升内存大小的时候果粉全部在说Apple优化好无所谓, 升了之后果粉全部在说太好了买买买终于不会卡不会杀进程了 cc iMadper
[07:42] <happyaron> yurakucho: 我是果果用户，我没这么说
[07:42] <onlylove> happyaron: 那个端lag了
[07:42] <happyaron> yurakucho: 上个月刚充值了信仰
[07:42] <happyaron> lol
[07:42] <happyaron> onlylove: 嗯
[07:42] <onlylove> yurakucho: 所以果果用户还是欢迎大RAM的
[07:43] <happyaron> 只是没必要那么在乎
[07:43] <onlylove> yurakucho: 但是人RAM小点一样用
[07:43] * onlylove 表示自己的android还是1G RAM
[07:44] <yurakucho> 这个尺寸和分辨率, 现在的2G真心标配, 即使优化再好, 无所谓内存大小不现实. 但是单进程当然比android省很多内存 (哦, iOS 8之后这个feature/痛点也没了
[07:46] <onlylove> yurakucho: 其实我只是好奇IOS升级变砖
[07:47] <yurakucho> onlylove: 16G那个事情太鸡贼, Apple口碑已经差很多了, 再变砖就真是zuo了...
[07:48] <onlylove> yurakucho: 谁让它一年一个版本的赶着
[07:48] <onlylove> yurakucho: 两年一个版本又不会死
[07:54] <onlylove__> happyaron: 果果的信仰还要定时充的？
[07:55] <yurakucho> 隔代充
[07:57] <onlylove> so 蓉蓉现在用的是6s？
[08:03] <sennn> 刁近平
[08:05] <sennn> 紅色資本不得了
[08:05] <sennn> 窮人更窮,富人更富
[08:16] <nyfair> 巨佬，带带我
[08:17] <nyfair> 求美分资助，我的笔力从github上的骂战可以看出来吧
[08:19] <happyaron> onlylove_: en
[08:19] <happyaron> onlylove: 隔代充值
[08:24] <sennn> 屌樂美,屌味
[08:28] <onlylove__> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46239
[08:28] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 索尼证实PS4将提供PS2模拟器
[08:33] * cherrot 没手机用 不开心
[08:33] <onlylove> cherrot: 买买买
[08:33] <cherrot> onlylove 到北京没消息了 不开心
[08:34] <sennn> windows mobile 10
[08:34] <onlylove> cherrot: 到北京没消息啥意思，你从外地买的？
[08:34] <gfxmode> 我这边老了掉线，lag=3.1
[08:34] <cherrot> onlylove 嗯 :(
[08:35] <onlylove> gfxmode: 3.1算毛线掉线
[08:35] <cherrot> 从 gfxmode 处得到 Ping 回应时间：3.63 秒
[08:35] <onlylove> cherrot: JD多方便
[08:35] <cherrot> onlylove n6p 国内不卖
[08:37] <yunfan> onlylove: 也是需要续航的 否则你自拍还要手忙脚乱趁着他电没玩完赶紧拍 何况你就续航10几分钟 那你知道充满电需要多长时间么
[08:37] <onlylove> cherrot: 萌萌哒高富帅
[08:38] <onlylove> nyfair: 对了，前几天魔都有人让我去他办公室一趟呢
[08:39] <onlylove> yunfan: 又不是一直飘着，你用的时候让它飞一下，断断续续十几分钟应该够吧，一次一分钟什么的
[08:40] <onlylove> yunfan: 然后带上块电池，这事有点坑貌似
[08:40] <onlylove> yunfan: 大疆的能飞多久
[08:41] <yurakucho> cherrot: 你现在没有手机?
[08:41] <yunfan> onlylove: 你可以买个试试就知道了
[08:45] <cherrot> yurakucho, 借的别人的临时用着
[08:51] <onlylove1> 擦，就因为我帮之前的项目组处理点善后，就把我从现有的github组里面踢掉
[08:51] <onlylove1> 呵呵呵呵
[08:52] <onlylove1> 还TM私有代码库，踢掉连看都看不了
[08:52] <nyfair> 牛牛别跟那种人较劲
[08:53] <onlylove1> 不和他们玩了，反正这边有俩小丫头有权限，让她们写去吧，我指导下完事
[08:54] <onlylove1> yunfan: 貌似型号不一样，续航不一样
[08:54] <nyfair> 这样不好，还不如彻底撇清关系
[08:54] <onlylove1> 撇清是没问题，可是现在年底不好找新工作
[08:55] <nyfair> 有啥好指导的，给他人做嫁衣？
[08:55] <happyaron> cherrot: 有个垃圾电信手机你用不，lol
[08:55] <happyaron> 虽然不适合你这萌萌哒妹子壕的身份
[08:55] <cherrot> happyaron, 不用啊 毕竟我还得接电话
[08:55] <onlylove1> 今天刚转正，指导下xpath和css selector什么的
[08:55] <happyaron> cherrot: 双卡双待
[08:56] <nyfair> happyaron: 那对qq输入法狗男女又更新了，他妈的就加了点预设皮肤
[08:56] <nyfair> happyaron: 这对狗男女怎么不去死！
[08:56] <onlylove1> nyfair: 加加好久没更新了……
[08:57] <onlylove1> nyfair: 上次是5.1这次5.2我没看什么时候发的
[08:57] <nyfair> happyaron: 对得起我这个热心用户么
[08:57] <cherrot> happyaron, 么么哒 我等新手机到货吧 现在这个也还能用 有微信我就知足了
[08:58] <nyfair> onlylove: 拼音加加 5.2 正式版
[08:58] <nyfair> 软件大小：13.72 MB
[08:58] <nyfair> 更新时间：2010-12-23
[08:58] <happyaron> nyfair: 我也想他们去屎
[08:58] <happyaron> cherrot: 哦壕已经下单了
[08:58] <onlylove1> happyaron: 赶紧把他们扔出去，这两天下大雪，冻死丫的
[08:58] <happyaron> nyfair: 换必应输入法吧，windows上我已经全换了
[08:58] <onlylove1> 这几天下大雪，我怎么晒被子啊
[08:59] <onlylove1> happyaron: 换来换去，还是加加好用不卡
[08:59] <nyfair> happyaron: bing输入法跟度婊搜狗一个德行，都加驱动，没qq干净
[08:59] <nyfair> happyaron: 而且bing的词库太烂了
[08:59] <happyaron> onlylove1: 必应也不卡
[09:00] <onlylove1> happyaron: 和加加比没竞争力
[09:00] <happyaron> nyfair: M$不太需要怎地你，要啥数据还获取不到么
[09:00] <happyaron> onlylove1: 那你继续用就好了
[09:01] * yurakucho 在用搜狗输入法的子品牌
[09:01] <nyfair> happyaron: 那干嘛不用win10自带的中文输入法。M$我信，M$的亚洲研究院就算了，bing输入法是那个亚洲研究院出品的
[09:01] <onlylove1> yurakucho: 后台下载卡死你
[09:02] <yurakucho> onlylove1: qq输入法, 挺清爽的
[09:02] <happyaron> nyfair: win10自带那个也是丹棱街那些人做的
[09:02] <onlylove1> yurakucho: 那个不卡，好吧
[09:03] <gfxmode> onlylove1: cherrot 刚刚真掉线了，掉了两三次
[09:03] <happyaron> nyfair: 本质就是有皮肤没皮肤的区别
[09:03] <onlylove1> gfxmode: 他掉线又不是我掉线，我一天掉线百八十次正常
[09:04] <nyfair> happyaron: 这么说吧，你玩游戏，根本就不会去考虑bing google的输入法，很多游戏都无法输入
[09:04] * onlylove1 认为输入法第一要义是输入，而不是皮肤
[09:04] <onlylove1> nyfair: 但是智能ABC肯定可以
[09:04] <gfxmode> onlylove1: 嗯。我在频道里见到许多onlylov*的ID，都是您么？ie: onlylove[1-2], onlylove_, onlylove__
[09:04] <happyaron> nyfair: 我玩LOL美服，客户端不支持中文显示
[09:05] <happyaron> nyfair: 所以那时输入法对我只是累赘
[09:05] <iMadper> MangHuo: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/781227/
[09:05] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ Microsoft 微软 Band 智能运动手环 £59.2，可直邮中国（约￥580）_英国亚马逊优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[09:06] <yurakucho> MangHuo: 买买买
[09:06] <gfxmode> 580的手环有点贵
[09:08] <nyfair> onlylove1: 我也是这么觉得的，所以我们老了，你看现在90后00后，有几个人会用输入法默认皮肤的
[09:08] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 1 代啊
[09:08] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 不好玩吧
[09:08] <onlylove_> nyfair: 我也不用默认皮肤，默认太难看
[09:08] <MangHuo> yurakucho: 我有小米了
[09:08] <onlylove_> nyfair: 但是智能ABC和微软拼音没有皮肤功能
[09:09] <onlylove_> nyfair: 我不讨厌皮肤功能，但是这个是锦上添花的东西，不应该喧宾夺主
[09:10] <nyfair> 话说win10 phone又把android的支持给删掉了，你们怎么看？
[09:10] <onlylove_> 本来就不应该有的东西，删掉再正常不过
[09:11] <nyfair> 是官司问题还是巨硬觉得加这个很蠢
[09:11] <onlylove_> 微软说了，我们还没准备好
[09:11] <nyfair> 但其实之前win10测试版的时候反响很不错
[09:12] <onlylove_> 但是那样人直接开发android应用就行了，就不用学微软的那一套那啥了，等于把自己架空了
[09:13] <nyfair> 开发者自然日次，但是普通消费者可不会买账了
[09:13] <nyfair> 如此
[09:13] <onlylove_> 微软玩开发者又不是一次两次
[09:17] <nyfair> 11月19日消息，据日本媒体报道，因达沃斯论坛而闻名的瑞士世界经济论坛（WEF）19日发布了的2015年版《全球性别差距报告》。
[09:17] <nyfair> 排名前十的非欧洲国家只有三个，分别是卢旺达（第6），菲律宾（第7）和新西兰（第10）。
[09:17] <nyfair> 全家移民卢旺达，亦可赛艇！
[09:17] <onlylove_> 经济论坛发布性别差距报告……
[09:18] <onlylove_> 嗯，确实够exciting
[09:18] <nyfair> 识得唔识得噶
[09:23] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 眼皮最大 : 老师:"世界上什么东西最大?" 学生:"眼皮。" 老师:"为什么?" 学生:"只要把眼一闭,全世界都被遮住了。"
[09:23] <nyfair> linux上com+接口玩不来啊。虽然7z是自己搞的一套com+，可我还是只会在windows上用啊
[09:24] <nyfair> https://github.com/nyfair/rust7z，有没有人教教我
[09:24] <ubrl> ⇪ f: nyfair/rust7z · GitHub
[09:24] <nyfair> 很多api，linux上都没有
[09:24] <nyfair> 可是7z不是有linux版么
[09:29] <yurakucho> nyfair: 牛牛, 包养我!
[09:35] <hceasy> 今天刚看了好多 关于国外人种族歧视的.
[09:36] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • 可以上网，但ifconfig不显示流量的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473957 不知道什么时候出现的问题，无意间发现自己的有限网卡不能统计流量了(发送字节和接受字节显示始终为0)，上网功能正常。 Code: $ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:以太网 硬件地址 8c:89:a5
[09:36] <^k^> ─> :0b:b7:3a inet 地址:10.1.145.24 广播:10.1.145.255 掩码:255.255.255.0 inet6 …
[09:36] <onlylove__> hceasy: 你是闲的蛋疼到什么程度，去看那个
[09:36] <hceasy> 知乎推的.
[09:36] <hceasy> 关于歧视亚裔的.
[09:39] <onlylove_> hceasy: 你只需要知道，世界上现存的活物，基本上都有种族歧视的问题
[09:40] <hceasy> onlylove_: 没事我就看看
[09:41] <onlylove_> 谁告诉我，下雪怎么晒被子啊，因为这鬼天气，我两周没晒了！
[09:42] <yunfan> hceasy: 那种歧视 似乎是妒忌 跟歧视其他人种没能力不一样吧
[09:42] <hceasy> onlylove_: 烘干机.
[09:43] <hceasy> yunfan: 不是 是关于日耳曼 白人 对其他所有人的歧视.
[09:43] <hceasy> yunfan: 感觉水分好多 应该没那么歧视吧
[09:48] <yurakucho> onlylove: 室内暖气片烘干
[09:55] <onlylove_> 只能用暖气片了看来……
[09:57] <nyfair> yunfan: 给他们塞个奥地利总统就行了
[09:57] <hceasy> 我擦...
[09:57] <hceasy> http://news.163.com/15/1120/15/B8SISKNL00014SEH.html
[09:57] <ubrl> hceasy: ⇪ 南京一小区称中东男子潜入小区疑投毒 警方介入_网易新闻中心
[09:57] <hceasy> 这尼玛...
[10:01] <onlylove2> hceasy: 坐等包子把东风21打到叙利亚
[10:01] <hceasy> onlylove2: 只要国内我们没动静 那玩意儿 .. 呵呵
[10:03] <onlylove2> hceasy: 大帝因为上次的事情，直接打掉十分之一的库存，包子连这点都拿不出？
[10:03] <hceasy> onlylove2: 拿的出来 割地都行 只要他还能安心养猪 不会管这些的 你继续看吧 谴责 继续谴责. 没别的.
[10:07] <onlylove2> hceasy: 所以说，大帝能带领毛子走向富强，朝内……看样是不行
[10:07] <hceasy> onlylove2: 朝内是养猪 毛子 养野猪吧..
[10:14] <yangdawei> hello
[10:14] <ubrl> yangdawei:点点点. 18:11
[10:14] <yangdawei> 点点点. ? 这是什么意思
[10:14] <yangdawei> ubrl, ?
[10:14] <ubrl> yangdawei, 休息一下.. 18:11
[10:15] <yangdawei> ubrl, why?
[10:15] <ubrl> yangdawei, 因为博士理查德·华莱士编程我吧。 18:12
[10:15] <yangdawei> ubrl, 看不懂
[10:15] <ubrl> yangdawei, 我常常在想，如果能。 18:12
[10:16] <yangdawei> 为什么有的频道不能发送消息？
[10:17] <yangdawei> #vim :Cannot send to channel
[10:17] <yangdawei> 刚在#vim里发言，显示这样的消息
[10:25] <onlylove2> 周末停电……关机
[10:26] <iMadper> yangdawei: 可能需要登录.
[10:27] <yunfan> fuck off
[10:29] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 你家的实际网速有多快？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473958 我下载一个3.4G字节的文件，用了4个小时。 本人的实际网速是 0.236M byte/s ,请下载一个大型文件，记录实际下载时间，看看 你家的实际网速有多快？ 感觉100M byte/s 就是一个传说。 zz:
[10:29] <^k^> ─> pengsir — 2015-11-20 18:27
[12:35] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 孩子问自己是从哪里来的 : 朋友的孩子问自己是从哪里来的, 朋友告诉他是从垃圾堆里捡的 我听到后严肃地批评了这位朋友: "都什么年代了,你怎么还这样? 不孕不育很难治吗?"
[13:13] <onlylove> MangHuo: 靠，丢人丢大发了，信用卡记错帐了，然后专门打电话找客服对账去
[13:13] <onlylove> MangHuo: 实际上是上个月底买了个路由，把它给漏了
[13:34] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu衍生版制作 • 识别不了TF卡，是什么原因？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473961 用dd命令制作live usb后，系统识别不了TF卡，也不能用TF卡启动。 是什么原因？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-20 21:34
[13:53] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 请问图片里的几个error和failed怎么回事，怎样能解决啊 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473962 怎样能解决啊 zz: exirrl — 2015-11-20 21:53
[13:56] <yunfan> onlylove: 信用卡怎么记错账
[13:57] <onlylove> yunfan: 我记错了，买了个路由，但是把那事忘了
[13:57] <onlylove> yunfan: 我估计客服妹子心里要嘲笑我到死了，花了多少钱都没概念
[14:01] <gebjgd> happyaron, 还不入个chatsim
[14:02] <yunfan> onlylove: 这个才一个月你就忘了？ 额
[14:02] <onlylove> yunfan: 我经常忘事情……
[14:03] <gebjgd> yunfan, 你还入个chatsim
[14:03] <gebjgd> yunfan, 你还不入个chatsim
[14:03] <yunfan> onlylove: 多吃点深海鱼油
[14:03] <yunfan> gebjgd: 是什么
[14:03] <gebjgd> yunfan, google下
[14:03] <gebjgd> yunfan, 能让你全球上微信的sim卡 年10欧元
[14:03] <gebjgd> yunfan, 可以不用本地移动的网络流量了
[14:04] <onlylove> yunfan: chatsim，聊天用SIM卡……
[14:04] <onlylove> yunfan: 字面解释
[14:04] <yunfan> gebjgd: 只能文字信息和表情符号 贵倒是不贵
[14:04] <yunfan> gebjgd: 但是流量这么低我害怕这公司在背后把我日常的所有信息都backup
[14:05] <yunfan> gebjgd: 毛线能上微信 就是free sms而已
[14:05] <gebjgd> yunfan, 我已经入了
[14:05] <gebjgd> yunfan, 好好看
[14:05] <gebjgd> yunfan, 全球免费上whatsapp
[14:05] <yunfan> gebjgd: 不知道他如何实现
[14:06] <gebjgd> yunfan, 用当地的网络
[14:06] <gebjgd> yunfan, 但是如果你用了额外的流量 锁卡
[14:06] <yunfan> gebjgd: 那就是跟亚马逊那个 kinlde 3G 免费上网那样 ？
[14:06] <yunfan> 问题是 额内的流量有多少 ?
[14:06] <gebjgd> yunfan, 所以你可以用你的联想安全大师锁住应用的流量
[14:07] <yunfan> gebjgd: 如果我要用的话 我必然会专门给他个手机 绝对不跟自己的日常混一块
[14:07] <yunfan> 话说这个很快会被贵国维权人士用起来 到时候党国就封了他了
[14:07] <gebjgd> yunfan, 可惜天朝还没几个人知道
[14:07] <yunfan> gebjgd: 打电话一年有多少呢
[14:09] <yunfan> gebjgd: 他这个说了 2000积分=10欧元 50积分=1mb 算下来 10欧元=40mb 我真是吃饱了撑着了 除非你帮我买一个 我拿来当匿名卡用
[14:10] <gebjgd> yunfan, 没法打电话
[14:10] <gebjgd> yunfan, 那个积分是用来发非文字和表情的
[14:10] <gebjgd> yunfan, 我没买
[14:11] <yunfan> gebjgd: 所以没卵用 他得搞个大的流量包 然后弄个通电话的
[14:12] <gebjgd> yunfan, 有用啊
[14:12] <gebjgd> yunfan, 比如我出差 我就不需要买当地的电话卡了
[14:12] <gebjgd> yunfan, 微信 whatsapp足够了
[14:14] <gebjgd> yunfan, 而且对于父母来说 如果他们平时出门就发个微信什么的 就不用定什么移动联通的流量了
[14:14] <gebjgd> yunfan, 有个微信能发消息 能代替短信了 还没有流量超出的顾虑
[14:14] <gebjgd> yunfan, 这卡自动翻墙
[14:17] <onlylove> 4G？
[14:17] <gebjgd> onlylove, ....你疯了
[14:17] <gebjgd> onlylove, 10欧元=40mb
[14:18] <gebjgd> onlylove, 就是用来发消息的
[14:18] <onlylove> gebjgd: 不是4G那3G？如果是GPRS，翻墙有毛用，你不是要用what's app么
[14:18] <gebjgd> onlylove, 你还没明白这卡的作用
[14:19] <gebjgd> onlylove, 你在境外 不用买本地卡 就可以有数据流量让你上微信和whatsapp或者qq
[14:19] <gebjgd> onlylove, 如果仅仅是文字和表情 一年10欧足以了
[14:19] <yunfan> gebjgd: 那么点流量 微信都不够啊 大佬
[14:19] <gebjgd> onlylove, 当越洋短信用
[14:20] <gebjgd> yunfan, 够 流量是一天一算的好像
[14:20] <onlylove> gebjgd: GPRS流量的话，不算也罢
[14:20] <gebjgd> onlylove, 省得买本地电话卡了
[14:20] <gebjgd> onlylove, 比如我回国1个月 用它就够了
[14:20] <yunfan> gebjgd: 一天5m 而且好像还要求你传照片来换积分 我不想用这种用隐私买免费的服务
[14:20] <gebjgd> yunfan, 传什么照片？
[14:21] <gebjgd> yunfan, 我都没买额外的流量
[14:23] <yunfan> gebjgd: 那是你的情况 总之这个不适合我 我情愿多花点钱购买更隐私的方案
[14:25] <yunfan> gebjgd: 我更喜欢一个月掏10欧元 让我全球打电话+1G流量这种玩法
[14:26] <gebjgd> yunfan, 梦呢
[14:27] <yunfan> gebjgd: 20欧也行 其实我不打电话 只接也行 毕竟1G流量够我干任何语音的事了
[14:28] <yunfan> gebjgd: 这个chatsim给你的号码是哪个国家的
[14:28] <gebjgd> yunfan, 哪个国家都不是 +367
[14:28] <gebjgd> yunfan, 因为它怎么样都是漫游
[14:28] <gebjgd> yunfan, 以前的东德前拨号
[14:34] <gebjgd> yunfan, http://www.travelsim.com/
[14:34] <ubrl> gebjgd: ⇪ TravelSim | Travel. Talk. Save.
[14:34] <yunfan> gebjgd: 干嘛不用前苏联的 我看网上前苏联的域名还在用呢
[14:35] <gebjgd> yunfan, 这个适合你
[14:36] <yunfan> gebjgd: 这个货币是欧元么 貌似他流量比国内还便宜 我艹了
[14:36] <yunfan> 额 是我看错了
[14:37] <yunfan> 比国内贵不少
[14:45] <gebjgd> yunfan, 天朝的电话卡国际漫游更贵吧 接电话还花钱
[18:08] <gebjgd> knownbad, 老色鬼上班呢
[18:08] <knownbad> 正忙着回email呢。
[18:08] <gebjgd> knownbad, 回什么email啊
[18:10] <knownbad> 加上之前忘了updated VM错把旧版盖过新版。 得再从新更新。。。xxx
[18:10] <knownbad> 公司的事。
[18:11] <gebjgd> 至于么
[18:11] <gebjgd> knownbad, 多大点事情 说起来好像很忙似的
[18:11] <knownbad> 当然还有其他的事。
[18:11] <knownbad> 是你问起啊。
[18:12] <gebjgd> knownbad, 其他的事情是 还没喝咖啡 要上个厕所 办公室还们通风？
[18:12] <knownbad> 还有去当陪审团的烂事。
[18:12] <gebjgd> knownbad, 竟然轮到你去当陪审团
[18:12] <knownbad> 咖啡是有了。。。呵呵
[18:12] <knownbad> 都去过一次了。
[18:13] <gebjgd> knownbad, 这是人民信任你
[18:13] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你老婆最近干嘛呢
[18:13] <knownbad> 是个终身监禁的案子，我真不想投同意票但依法不能拒绝。
[18:14] <knownbad> 备孕呗。
[18:14] <gebjgd> knownbad, 有动静了么
[18:14] <knownbad> 可能就做些home business吧。
[18:14] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我怀疑是你的问题
[18:15] <knownbad> 她想做些手工艺品网售。
[18:15] <knownbad> 我也怀疑。。。
[18:15] <gebjgd> knownbad, 需要帮忙么
[18:16] <gebjgd> knownbad, 需要帮忙一定张口
[18:16] <knownbad> 嗯，借你老婆试试？
[18:16] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我替你啊
[18:16] <gebjgd> knownbad, 这叫借种
[18:17] <knownbad> 我是要借腹
[18:17] <knownbad> 反正我标准不高。
[18:17] <gebjgd> knownbad, 找个黑女人就行了
[18:21] <gebjgd> knownbad, 正好符合你的审美和要求
[18:26] <gebjgd> knownbad, 新入了个chatsim
[18:27] <knownbad> 那是啥？
[18:27] <gebjgd> knownbad, whatsim
[18:27] <gebjgd> knownbad, 改名了
[18:27] <gebjgd> knownbad, 回国的时候有微信和whatsapp用
[18:27] <knownbad> 黑妹妹没什么不好，有浅黑的。
[18:28] <gebjgd> knownbad, 好 你就去找啊
[18:28] <knownbad> 是SIM还是app?
[18:28] <gebjgd> knownbad, sim卡 全球都有流量
[18:33] <knownbad> 怎么收费？
[18:34] <gebjgd> knownbad, 每年10欧 如果不需要发送图片和视频的话
[18:34] <knownbad> 刚去了趟台湾没手机上线就是不方便。
[18:34] <knownbad> 这么便宜？
[18:34] <knownbad> 该买个。
[18:35] <gebjgd> knownbad, 所以啊
[18:35] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我就是回国的时候用的
[18:36] <gebjgd> knownbad, 但是你的手机要能锁流量
[18:36] <gebjgd> knownbad, 就是能对apps的流量进行管理
[18:45] <knownbad> CM可以。
[18:45] <knownbad> 但不知道之后的手机还能不能上CM了。
[18:46] <gebjgd> knownbad, 联想随便一个手机都可以
[18:46] <gebjgd> knownbad, 有安全中心 直接锁
[18:47] <knownbad> QQ安全中心？
[18:47] <gebjgd> knownbad, 不是 联想手机自带的乐安全
[18:48] <gebjgd> knownbad, lbe大师估计也行
[18:48] <knownbad> 妈的，Lenovo之前的丑闻还不够？
[18:49] <gebjgd> knownbad, 什么丑闻
[18:50] <knownbad> 在PC上内置什么malware啊。
[18:50] <gebjgd> knownbad, 那是bios
[18:50] <knownbad> 搜搜就知道。
[18:50] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我又不用win 不怕
[18:50] <knownbad> 软件。
[18:50] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我的os都是Linux 不怕
[18:51] <knownbad> http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/19/technology/security/lenovo-superfish/
[18:51] <ubrl> knownbad: ⇪ Lenovo slipped 'Superfish' malware into laptops - Feb. 19, 2015
[18:51] <knownbad> 是说无良厂商。
[18:51] <gebjgd> knownbad, 都说了 不用win 不怕
[18:52] <gebjgd> knownbad, 联想的手机一直口碑不错
[18:52] <knownbad> 说得是类似的软件上了你的手机。唉怎么就听不懂呢？
[18:52] <gebjgd> knownbad, 现在什么手机安全啊
[18:52] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你可以买了刷cm
[18:52] <gebjgd> knownbad, k910有cm了
[18:52] <knownbad> CM吧？
[18:52] <gebjgd> knownbad, 是啊
[18:52] <knownbad> 将来就不知道了。
[18:53] <knownbad> Google Nexux应该还可以
[18:53] <knownbad> 但没扩充。
[18:54] <gebjgd> knownbad, 没有双卡
[18:54] <gebjgd> knownbad, 没法用 我还是继续用联想
[19:00] <knownbad> 老婆也想要双卡但不愿意用次品
[19:00] <gebjgd> knownbad, 联想可不次
[19:02] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我这里4部联想手机了 还没有过问题
[19:02] <knownbad> 就明年还回去武汉之后可能就不常回国了。 计划把岳母办过来。
[19:02] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你母女通吃？
[19:02] <gebjgd> knownbad, 淫荡
[19:02] <knownbad> 我是无所谓，什么机子只要能用就可以。
[19:03] <knownbad> 是想帮岳母找个爹地。
[19:06] <gebjgd> knownbad, 联想 没错的
[19:21] <knownbad> 问题是Lenovo没做北美版。
[19:23] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你傻吧 里面有英文
[19:24] <gebjgd> knownbad, 而且好几个以前的手机都有国际版的rom
[19:24] <gebjgd> knownbad, 自己上google就是了
[19:24] <gebjgd> knownbad, 我所有的联想都是这么用的
[19:27] <gebjgd> knownbad, 你不是连刷机器都不会吧
[19:27] <knownbad> 说的是平率。
[19:27] <knownbad> 北美版有地区性的特定平率。
[19:28] <knownbad> 比如北美用的800国际用900.
[19:28] <knownbad> 北美就是这么自大。
[19:29] <knownbad> 就算能用也只是上了2G/3G而不是4G。
[19:29] <gebjgd> knownbad, 可以用
[19:30] <gebjgd> knownbad, 全通
[19:30] <gebjgd> knownbad, 自己看去 联想现在所有的机型都是全网通
[23:58] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 15.10可以安装ati官网的显卡驱动么? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473964 哪个驱动写的就支持14.04 12.04 15.10能安装么？ zz: smallcsduck — 2015-11-21 5:11
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[01:51] <mhall119> rpadovani: I'm at a conference this weekend, so not on IRC much, if you need help ping popey
[01:51] <popey> mhall119, all sorted
[01:59] <mhall119> thanks popey :)
[01:59] * mhall119 should change his nick
[08:34] <zzarr> hello! I get this error trying to use bluetooth in Ubuntu SDK (Ubuntu version: 15.10) "error: Unknown module(s) in QT: bluetooth"
[08:38] <zzarr> this is the compiler output ".../ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf/qt5-qmake-arm-linux-gnueabihf" exited with code 3.
[10:12] <DanChapman> zsombi: hey! in the UITK 1.3 ListItem is it possible to declare actions only for the "right-click" context menu and not be in the leading/trailing actions?
[10:24] <zsombi> DanChapman: nope, yet it has to be either in leading or trailing or both
[10:25] <zsombi> DanChapman: what we have in ListItem is only a temporary solution till we get the ContextMenu in place
[10:48] <DanChapman> zsombi: ahh that's a bummer. :-( any suggestions on how I can solve my current issue in dekko https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ohaF-RY5d927wkco-wxHvfEB4dehEiz5KWGs6JpauBs/edit?usp=sharing
[10:49] <DanChapman> I want to avoid having the two seperate context menus
[11:17] <zsombi> DanChapman: just commented on the doc
[11:18] <DanChapman> zsombi: thanks! i'll take a look in a minute
[12:09] <mcphail> Do we now have a magic switch to prevent the screen from dimming in apps? What is the invokation? Does it prevent the screen from switching off as well?
[12:15] <ahayzen> mcphail, looks like it would be something like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1462489/comments/21 (probably worth reading the other comments after as well)
[12:16] <VsyachePuz> I want to learn on how to implement the following feature: my program performs long process (internet crawling by specification), user chooses "minimise to progress bar" icon. windows minimizes, and LONG progress bar appers in between system menu and ApplicationIndicators. How to implement this?
[12:18] <VsyachePuz> In MATE there is Panel Applets, whose allow to implement such feature. But does unity-panel support them ?
[12:23] <VsyachePuz> does ubuntu-panel support panel applets, similar to DBus-based panel applets of gnome and mate?
[12:23] <mcphail> ahayzen: so if I add the "keep-display-on" apparmor permission does the screen stay on automatically?
[12:24] <ahayzen> mcphail, the apparmor and the state in your QML, also note what was said here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1462489/comments/41
[12:25] <mcphail> ahayzen: any idea how to implement that in a non-qt app? Trying to keep screen on in SDL app
[12:25] <ahayzen> mcphail, erm, not sure someone like mzanetti might though ^^ ?
[12:26] <mzanetti> one sec
[12:27] <mcphail> ahayzen: thanks
[12:27] <mcphail> mzanetti: there's a comment about sending a dbus message, but dbus is a bit beyond me... ;)
[12:29] <mzanetti> Mirv, where do we keep the qt distropatches?
[12:31] <mzanetti> found it
[12:31] <mzanetti> mcphail, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/wily/qtsystems-opensource-src/wily/view/head:/debian/patches/unity-screen.diff
[12:31] <mzanetti> mcphail, basically comes down to conencting to "com.canonical.Unity.Screen", "/com/canonical/Unity/Screen", "com.canonical.Unity.Screen" on the system bus
[12:32] <timp> zbenjamin: do you know what is happening here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1518106
[12:32] <mzanetti> mcphail, and calling "keepDisplayOn" there
[12:32] <mzanetti> mcphail, that will return an int, store that int, and call removeDisplayOnRequest with that int as argument when your app is unfocused or closed
[12:33] <mcphail> mzanetti: cheers. Will have a look at that. Can non-Qt apps interact with dbus?
[12:33] <mzanetti> (or whenever else you want to not keep the screen lid any more - play nice or I will rate your app badly :D)
[12:33] <mzanetti> mcphail, yes
[12:34] <mzanetti> mcphail, what toolkit/language is your app?
[12:34] <mcphail> mzanetti: it is Baldur's Gate, running under GemRB usinf SDL2
[12:35] <mcphail> mzanetti: rate it badly and I'll send magic missile at you
[12:35] <mzanetti> you should be able to link to c or even c++ and qt from that, no?
[12:35] <mzanetti> isn't SDL based on c?
[12:36] <mcphail> mzanetti: yes. I can do the necessary in
[12:36] <mcphail> C
[12:37] <mcphail> mzanetti: thanks for your help
[12:37] <mzanetti> mcphail, so yes, find some dbus-lib written in C, or figure how to link c++ to it
[12:37] <VsyachePuz> does ubuntu-panel support panel applets, similar to DBus-based panel applets of gnome and mate?
[12:38] <mcphail> mzanetti: SDL links to dbus anyway, so the libs capability should be there
[12:39] <ahayzen> timp, just of interest what does "dirname $0" give you ?
[12:40] <ahayzen> timp, as if i change ". `dirname $0`/build_paths.inc" .. to .. ". ./build_paths.inc" then it works as that file is in the same directory for me
[12:41] <Mirv> mzanetti: ok. Debian git, LP mirror also
[12:41] <timp> ahayzen: "dirname $0" always gives me "."
[12:41] <ahayzen> timp, it gives me "/bin"
[12:42] <ahayzen> timp, haha omg! no way found it...
[12:42] <ahayzen> timp, if i use gnome-terminal i get '.' .. if i use terminator i get '/bin'
[12:43] * ahayzen adds that to the bug report
[12:43] <timp> ohh
[12:43] <timp> I never tried that
[12:43] <ahayzen> yeah it works fine in gnome-terminal
[12:43] * ahayzen wonders what terminal Victor is using
[12:44] <timp> $0 should be the full path+name of the script that you are running..
[12:48] <ahayzen> timp, commented, so now you are going to tell me i'm using the wrong terminal :-P
[12:58] <ahayzen> timp, why can't you do this instead? ". $PWD/build_paths.inc" ?
[13:00] <timp> ahayzen: I'm not sure, that's why I was asking zbenjamin I think he added the $0 ;)
[13:01] <ahayzen> :-)
[13:02] <zbenjamin> timp: he did not :)
[13:04] <ahayzen> bzr blame may argue its case ;-)
[14:39] <Innercode> Hi 'm getting headaches about my apparmor problem. I've updated my BQ4.5 to OTA-8 and my desktop have the latest updates as well. When I create a new HTML5 app and run it on my phone no styles or js are applied because apparmor denied it. The bug is registered here (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1477580) but the state is fixed. When I run the app on my desktop it's ok. How can I
[14:44] <jdstrand> Innercode: on the desktop it isn't going to run confined unless you are doing something special
[14:44] <jdstrand> Innercode: also, this was fixed in 15.10, not the phone
[14:46] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: hey, so, Innercode is seeing bug #1477580 on the phone (update to webapp template). mardy wants bug #1512667 (update to accounts policy group)
[14:47] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: with these changes, all webapps and anything using the accounts policy group will be recompiled in ota9. is this acceptable?
[14:48] <pmcgowan> jdstrand, and that means a first boot delay?
[14:48] <jdstrand> yes
[14:48] <pmcgowan> whats our choices
[14:48] <jdstrand> to do it or to not do it :)
[14:48] <pmcgowan> heh
[14:49] <jdstrand> in this case there is no additional policy group trick
[14:49] <pmcgowan> sounds like we need to if I understand right
[14:49] <pmcgowan> is it on the order of seconds, minutes?
[14:49] <jdstrand> it seems the html5 changes landed without this (I'm guessing), so that kinda forces our hand
[14:49] <jdstrand> well, it depends on the device
[14:49] <jdstrand> all webapps
[14:50] <jdstrand> and anything that uses accounts
[14:50] <jdstrand> the accounts change will affect a relatively small number of apps
[14:50] <jdstrand> I believe
[14:50] <pmcgowan> jdstrand, so is there a current issue on ota8 we need to fix?
[14:51] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: I'm not sure when the html5 issue came up. Innercode mentioned he is struggling to develop on html5 app on BQ ota8
[14:51] <jdstrand> but this is the first I've heard of it for stable phone overlay
[14:51] <jdstrand> (we fixed it in wily)
[14:52] <Innercode> jdstrand pmcgowan Had this problem on OTA-7 as well
[14:52] <pmcgowan> hmm that sounds bad
[14:52] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: mardy has been asking for this change to the accounts plugin for a while
[14:52] <jdstrand> s/plugin/policy group/
[14:52] <pmcgowan> I am still confused is this affecting installed html apps?
[14:52] <pmcgowan> sounds like
[14:53] <pmcgowan> alexabreu, ^^
[14:53] <jdstrand> yeah, I don't understand the underlying changes that is causing this
[14:53] <jdstrand> s/is/are/
[14:54] <jdstrand> this is the wily changelog entry for apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu: ubuntu/ubuntu-webapp: allow read access to /usr/share/ubuntu-html5-theme and /usr/share/ubuntu-html5-ui-toolkit (LP: #1477580)
[14:55] <jdstrand> from the bug description: "When launching an app create with the default HTML5 template in qtc on the device (it now uses the 'ubunu-webapp' apparmor template), the css styles are not applied at all."
[14:55] <pmcgowan> yikes
[14:55] <pmcgowan> how did that happen
[14:55] <jdstrand> but that was for wily
[14:55] <jdstrand> maybe the new sdk?
[14:56] <jdstrand> no, Innercode said this was with ota7 too
[14:56] <alexabreu> jdstrand, pmcgowan mmmh this really seems related to what https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1477580 was fixing
[14:56] <pmcgowan> alexabreu, right so do we need to hotfix this?
[14:56] <jdstrand> alexabreu: yes, that is the bug I am talking about :)
[14:56] <alexabreu> pmcgowan, it shouldnb't be hotfixed ... jdstrand released it some time ago right?
[14:57] <jdstrand> alexabreu: we fixed that in wily. Innercode said he is seeing it on ota7+
[14:57] <alexabreu> yes
[14:57] <jdstrand> it is not fixed in stable phone overlay
[14:57] <alexabreu> ah!
[14:57] <jdstrand> the question is, why are we seeing it in stable phone overlay in ota7+
[14:58] <jdstrand> and should we regenerate all webapp policy in ota9 (first boot slowdown)
[14:59] <jdstrand> Innercode: could you paste your security manifest for your app at paste.ubuntu.com?
[15:00] <Innercode> jdstrand The contents of the apparmor file?
[15:01] <jdstrand> Innercode: in your click manifest, you will have something like this:
[15:01] <jdstrand> name: foo
[15:01] <jdstrand> hooks:
[15:01] <jdstrand> bar:
[15:01] <jdstrand> apparmor: path/to/file
[15:03] <Innercode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13366210/
[15:04] <jdstrand> Innercode: right, I need MPDClient.apparmor
[15:04] <jdstrand> Innercode: actually, and MPDClient.desktop
[15:06] <Innercode> jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13366245/
[15:10] <jdstrand> Innercode: thanks
[15:10] <jdstrand> alexabreu (and pmcgowan): should I proceed with preparing this?
[15:11] <Innercode> I really need to go now. My client stays connected so I will read all the messages since now. Many thanks anyway :)
[15:11] <alexabreu> jdstrand, I think we should yes, ...
[15:13] <pmcgowan> jdstrand, alexabreu what is the conclusion, is this currently afftecting html apps on the release
[15:21] <mardy> jdstrand: of course, the other option is to create a new policy (IIRC I proposed "accounts-read"), but it's not as nice (and you suggested modifying the existing "accounts" one)
[15:23] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: thoughts on accounts policy group change? I think this is less disruptive. anecdotally, I have 19 profiles that use it on my dogfooding arale. I just timed recompiling them: 34 seconds
[15:23] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: I defer to alexabreu on if html apps are affected on the release
[15:24] <alexabreu> pmcgowan, jdstrand yes they are
[15:24] <alexabreu> so we have to hotfix
[15:25] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: ^. based on that, I think we should do both. interestingly, I have fewer webapps than accounts consumers
[15:25] <pmcgowan> alexabreu, ok then, can you also follow up on some test to catch this
[15:26] <alexabreu> pmcgowan, yes that's precisely what I was doing
[15:26] <pmcgowan> alexabreu, jdstrand I will open an rtm taskon that bug
[15:30] <jdstrand> what about the accounts change?
[15:30] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: also, fyi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13366530/
[15:30] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: a little over a minute on arale if we change both
[15:31] <pmcgowan> that seems fine
[15:31] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: if you run that command yourself, make sure that the screen doesn't dim
[15:31] <jdstrand> cause the system goes into energy saving mode and it affects compile times
[15:32] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: I agree. so, fix both?
[15:32] <pmcgowan> jdstrand, yes
[15:40] <jdstrand> mardy: this is all you want, correct? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13366564/
[16:04] <mardy> jdstrand: if the 15.10 policy is a symlink to 1.3, then yes, that's all
[16:09] <jdstrand> mardy: this is for stable phone overlay and so no 15.10 poliy. it just adds that to what is already there
[16:10] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: can you adjust this bug accordingly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1512667
[16:10] <jdstrand> pmcgowan: I started it, but couldn't do everything
[16:13] <jdstrand> mardy: but yes, 1.3 policy (ie, what the stable phone uses) is a symlink to 1.1
[16:34] <mardy> jdstrand: right, for 15.10 you already did it in wily. So yes, those changes look fine!
[16:34] <jdstrand> thanks
[16:35] <jdstrand> mardy: if you are interested: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-048
[16:50] <adam_from_farfar> hellou :3
[16:52] <adam_from_farfar> guys, I have just installed QtCreator, phone is connected to pc, when I try to deploy the app, Python complains for a missing module. The log is here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13367627/ I cannot either install the module as it does not exist or do anything else :/ Anyway, when I ingore the warning, the app is correctly deployed to phone, but I have
[16:52] <adam_from_farfar> no idea what can be the side effect of issues with that python module.
[17:27] <davmor2> ahayzen: pfff bug lists everywhere you only need to look at mine https://bugs.launchpad.net/~davmor2
[17:28] <ahayzen> davmor2, haha but this is only for 1 feature ;-)
[17:28] <ahayzen> davmor2, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=bgplaylist ;-)
[17:29] <davmor2> pffff only 65 that's a tenth of my list ;)
[17:30] <ahayzen> haha
[17:30] <ahayzen> i am a dev not QA :-P
[17:30] <ahayzen> wait until you guys start testing it :')
[17:32] <davmor2> ahayzen: silo 009 is in the queue
[17:32] <davmor2> :D
[17:32] <ahayzen> yup :-D
[17:32] <ahayzen> getting there slowly
[17:32] <davmor2> It will fail at least twice
[17:32] <ahayzen> probably
[17:33] <ahayzen> jhodapp, davmor2 predicting your future ^^ ;-)
[17:34] <jhodapp> so cynical! ;p
[17:34] <davmor2> ahayzen, jhodapp: It is a HUGE! silo there is no way it's perfect first try sorry :)
[17:34] <ahayzen> that just means we need todo more testing first then :-)
[17:34] <ahayzen> lol
[17:36] <davmor2> ahayzen: bluez5 has taken a week to land and is smaller, admittedly it touches more parts of the system but hey :)
[17:36] <ahayzen> :-) thats been baking for a while as well
[17:36] <davmor2> and that was with months of prep
[17:36] <jhodapp> davmor2, it's definitely not perfect
[17:37] <davmor2> ahayzen: see jhodapp it already setting up the excuses for the fail ;)
[17:37] <jhodapp> we did pretty thorough testing, but it's complex stuff and edge cases can be hard to test for
[17:37] <ahayzen> well it plays music when i'm on the bus...so ship it ?
[17:37] <jhodapp> davmor2, someone has to prepare you properly ;)
[17:37] <ahayzen> ;-)
[17:38] <davmor2> jhodapp: yeah that's what I say I will be amazed if this passes first time :)
[17:38] <jhodapp> ahayzen, I like that!
[17:38] <jhodapp> davmor2, buy me a beer if it does!?
[17:38] <davmor2> jhodapp: :)
[17:39] * davmor2 bets jhodapp hasn't tested with the new bluez5 stack yet ;)
[17:40] <jhodapp> nope :)
[17:40] <jhodapp> have not
[17:41] <davmor2> See edge case number one :D
[17:41] <jhodapp> haha
[17:42] <jhodapp> davmor2, I will test with it though once it lands
[17:42] <ahayzen> when do we get media-controls via bluez5 and bgplaylists :')
[17:44] <jhodapp> bluez5 is landing now, so soon :)
[17:44] <jhodapp> maybe by Monday
[17:44] <ahayzen> sweet \o/
[17:45] <ahayzen> OTA9 is gonna be big lol
[17:45] <jhodapp> yep :)
[17:45] <ahayzen> and we are only a few days into it lol
[17:46] <davmor2> ahayzen: lots of it has been building for months and we are trying to get all the big bits in place as early as possible to avoid the last minute racing around like a headless chicken and then having to drop it anyway :)
[17:47] <ahayzen> hah :-)
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[04:06] <pitti> Good morning
[04:07] <pitti> yay, autopkgtest queues finally caught up over night
[06:05] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: the reason for not using Conflicts was that it was forcing the users to manually upgrade the sdk packages. So a simple apt-get upgrade would hve kept back our packages. I have tried all options. Nothing worked. Apt seems to be too sensitive or our dependency tree is just too complex.
[06:06] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: yeah, i think the guy is not here anymore :D
[06:06] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: I tried to address him, but yes he is offline
[06:07] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: not even dist-upgrade worked?
[06:07] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: we need to simplify the package dependencies in the whole SDK
[06:07] <zbenjamin> (what you need for ppa upgrades anyway right)
[06:07] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: no ... dist and normal upgrade simple kept back the packages.
[06:08] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: but when apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-ide was used it went fine and it did remove the conflicting packages. No idea why it could not do it automatically
[06:08] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: right i remember now :/
[08:11] <FourDollars> pitti: Hi, could you help to review https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/unity-settings-daemon/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/278108 and https://code.launchpad.net/~fourdollars/ubuntu/trusty/gnome-desktop3/fix-lowest-brightness/+merge/278110?
[09:19] <dholbach> diwic, happy birthday! :)
[09:19] <diwic> dholbach, thanks! :-)
[09:20] <seb128> oh, happy birthday diwic!
[09:20] <diwic> seb128, thanks! :-)
[09:21] <diwic> seb128, FYI, I went writing some code on that subwoofer bug, but not really happy with the result just yet.
[09:21] <seb128> k, still quite some time before feature freeze anyway ;-)
[09:36] <Mirv> hi friendly core-dev again, to workaround train not understanding trunk translation updates in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/621 , please do ./copy-package --from=~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/landing-060 --from-suite=xenial --to=ubuntu --to-suite=xenial-proposed -b unity-api - everything else is already copied
[09:39] <seb128> Mirv, what do you mean by "train not understanding trunk translation updates"?
[09:39] <Mirv> seb128: the ticket claims unity8 has unbuilt changes, because translation updates land to trunk automatically https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk
[09:40] <Mirv> train just got a feature that detects trunk changes, unfortunately it doesn't understand translation updates are alright
[09:40] <Mirv> and the publish can't be forced
[09:40] <seb128> don't you have a checkbox to overwrite those errors?
[09:40] <Mirv> no, there's no force for the publish job
[09:40] <seb128> k
[09:40] <seb128> but why are some copied then?
[09:41] <Mirv> seb128: because they're in universe and I'm MOTU
[09:41] <seb128> I see
[09:41] <seb128> thanks for the details
[09:41] <seb128> Mirv, copied for you
[09:41] <Mirv> seb128: thanks, and mzanetti thanks you too!
[09:41] <seb128> yw!
[09:50] <seb128> infinity, new selinux seems to make glibc autopkgtests grumpy, http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/glibc/xenial/amd64/ seems like we need to backport https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=808696696837b8b8fc858f2e6f8d4e40e26e1308
[09:50] <seb128> pitti, dbus ones being unhappy are what you pinged Laney about earlier right?
[09:51] <pitti> seb128: yes
[09:51] <infinity> seb128: We'll get that for free with 2.22, but I might have to pull it in earlier if 2.22 and I keep fighting.
[09:51] <seb128> infinity, ok, I was just pointing it because it's blocking selinux which is blocking some other things
[09:52] <seb128> but anyway needs to sort out dbus as well, so it's probably not going to be today
[09:52] <pitti> do we urgently need libselinux in xenial?
[09:52] <pitti> seb128: oh, is that a library transition?
[09:53] <seb128> pitti, no, but there are a bunch of things batched with it
[09:53] <seb128> I was just looking at excuses
[09:53] <pitti> ah right
[09:54] <pitti> yofel: FYI: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/k/kdelibs4support/20151119_133155@/log.gz -- the same version worked before, is that acc failure due to a dependency change?
[09:55] <pitti> yofel: this was the run for kio
[09:55] <infinity> If glibc 2.22 and I don't agree soon, I need to do an opload for a 1-liner for s390x anyway, so I can grab that fix too.
[09:55] <pitti> yofel: kdelibs4support/amd64 works fine against other -proposed packages, so kio does sound related
[09:55] <pitti> infinity: uploading glibc on a Friday afternoon, what could possibly go wrong :)
[09:56] <infinity> pitti: No meaningful code changes. But yes, it would explode your infra something nasty. :P
[09:57] <infinity> pitti: Until we're building s390x in LP, though, I don't care, I can hand-edit my 1-liner for my bootstrap stuff. :P
[09:57] <infinity> pitti: (It's a Breaks against a binNMU version of something only on s390x, derp)
[10:44] <didrocks> bdmurray: slangasek: hey, do you mind subscribing foundations-bugs to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ptyprocess? That will enable me to promote it to main. It's a new dep of pexpect (process handling part has been externalized in 4.0) for which foundation is already the bug subscriber
[11:10] <infinity> didrocks: Done.
[11:20] <pitti> infinity, Laney: please remove http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.html from your browsers/brains and use http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml from now on
[11:20] <pitti> (link in the menu is updated, of course)
[11:21] <pitti> apw too ^
[11:21] * mgedmin mutters "apache rewrite rules" under his breath
[11:21] <pitti> using SSI to include the dynamic bit is a bit icky; I tried for about 45 mins to use JS for that, but failed
[11:22] <pitti> including that on the client side, possibly with auto-refresh would be great
[11:22] <pitti> but I'm a web/JS n00b; if someone knows how to do that, please talk to me :)
[11:26] <mgedmin> I once made apache process SSI directives in .html files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13363773/
[11:31] <infinity> pitti: You give my brain too much credit.
[11:39] <pitti> infinity: the entirety of what I know about internet addresses is contained in my firefox' awesome bar cache :)
[11:39] <infinity> pitti: Yeah, ditto, though in that case, I follow the link from the front page.
[11:40] <infinity> pitti: That said, if you want to fix firefox's brain, a 301 will make it rewrite the cache.
[11:40] <infinity> (If you have enough control to 301)
[11:41] <pitti> mgedmin: I know, but the .shtml page is autogenerated, so it's prone to get lost
[11:44] <cjwatson> pitti: The crontab change to build xenial langpack exports on Sunday is live now, so you can set your end of it up to run on Mondays.
[11:45] <pitti> cjwatson: cool, thanks! I need to run the first one by hand, so I'll do that next Monday and then set the crontab
[11:45] * pitti adds it commented out for now
[11:46] <yofel> pitti: probably a dependency change, at least I didn't change anything explicitely - except I did the acc change wrong. I'll have time to look at this in the evening (and at all the arm64 FTBFS)
[11:47] <pitti> yofel: I retried teh arm64 FTBFS, seem happy now
[11:47] <pitti> was a weird temp issue with installing the b-deps
[11:47] <pitti> yofel: the test seems to work in general, as it does succeed when running against other packages, just not against kio
[11:47] <yofel> oh ok, I got a couple mails earlier, but if that's solved great. Thanks
[11:48] <yofel> ok, I'll look into that
[11:48] <pitti> yofel: ah, the new ones you got from this morning are real
[11:48] <pitti> like https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227091984/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-arm64.kio_5.15.0-0ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:49] <pitti> uninstallable b-deps again, looks like some ongoing transition again
[11:50] <yofel> dangit ^^. Ok, I'll check if it's something kde-internal anyway.
[11:50] <pitti> at least it's now a "real" error, not this weird "refusing to remove b-deps" one
[12:22] <VsyachePuz> does ubuntu-panel support panel applets, similar to DBus-based panel applets of gnome and mate?
[12:29] <cpaelzer> pitti, is adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud supposed to work with "-r xenial" already?
[12:41] <seb128> VsyachePuz, there is no ubuntu-panel
[12:41] <seb128> if you mean the unity panel, it doesn't support "applets"/isn't compatible with the gnome-panel ones no, but it has indicators
[12:49] <cpaelzer> pitti, when I try adt-buildvm-ubuntu-clou with xenial - I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13364697/ (seems to pass cloud init, but then hangs)
[12:49] <cpaelzer> pitti, I lack an example of one that works to compare
[12:50] <cpaelzer> fyi my system where this is running is trusty - if that might be a reason
[12:54] <coreycb> pitti, do we list the current MRE packages anywhere? they used to be listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions
[12:59] <VsyachePuz> seb128: so, may i say, that ("Application Indicators" [13:00] <seb128> the other way around rather
[13:01] <seb128> system indicators are things like the sound control or the session menu
[13:01] <seb128> so the equivalent to applets
[13:03] <sladen> Windicators!!!
[13:04] <VsyachePuz> seb128: I want to implement "minimize to progressbar" feature
[13:05] <seb128> what is a progressbar?
[13:05] <VsyachePuz> seb128: and that progressbar should be long (i.e. 200 pixels long, not 22x22pt as an icon)
[13:06] <VsyachePuz> seb128: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_bar
[13:06] <seb128> yeah, I know what that widget is
[13:06] <seb128> but "minimizing to a progress bar" is not a concept I grasp I think
[13:07] <VsyachePuz> seb128: I have an application which have an UI for making queries, and performs long frocessing for each query
[13:07] <VsyachePuz> I want to minimize it, but track the completion of operations
[13:08] <VsyachePuz> the concept is "minimize to tray", but I used it as an analogy
[13:08] <seb128> well, use an appindicator
[13:09] <VsyachePuz> i don't want small icon, i want long widget
[13:10] <VsyachePuz> may be even several of them
[13:10] <VsyachePuz> one for each query
[13:12] <seb128> that's not possible
[13:13] <seb128> you can have the status/summary in the indicator menu though
[13:17] <VsyachePuz> seb128: "that's not possible" - I am not sure. This is possible on MATE, and in Unity Menu is Indicator (long indicator). So long indicators should be possible
[13:18] <seb128> VsyachePuz, indicators can only contain a label or an icon in the panel
[13:18] <seb128> no custom rendering or other widgets
[13:26] <pitti> cpaelzer: the host system shouldn't matter that much; but I highly recommend using a current autopkgtest version
[13:28] <pitti> cpaelzer: I think I remember having to add some hacks for newer cloud-inits; so if that's indeed trusty's autopkgtest, please try with a recent one
[13:28] <pitti> coreycb: they are gone, we generalized the SRU policy instead
[13:28] <pitti> coreycb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-September/001152.html
[13:28] <coreycb> pitti, ok thanks
[13:35] <VsyachePuz> seb128: what is "icon"? Can it be nonsquare? Can it be 200x22px ?
[13:36] <mterry> seb128, thanks for the gdal rdep rebuilds
[13:38] <cpaelzer> pitti, yeah seems so on my wily system it just worked
[13:38] <cpaelzer> pitti, I'll try updating to a more recent autopkgtest on my Trusty and try again
[13:40] <cpaelzer> pitti, just FYI here would be the full log that worked http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365391/
[13:40] <cpaelzer> and the difference starts at some cloud-init things, so yes it could be just as you suggested
[13:40] <cpaelzer> I'll let you know later if it worked
[13:53] <pitti> stgraber: hm, that i386 lxcfs failure seems fairly resistant against retries: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/l/lxcfs/xenial/i386/
[13:55] <seb128> mterry, yw
[13:55] <seb128> VsyachePuz, I don't know, I guess you can try
[13:56] <mterry> kenvandine, poke about that deja-dup branch
[13:58] <doko> xnox, are you going to address the cmake merge?
[13:58] <xnox> doko, well, i win the TIL...
[14:00] <infinity> xnox: You do now, anyway. :P
[14:00] <infinity> doko: Shame about your versioning breaking the merge a bit, though.
[14:00] <xnox> doko, i believe steve tricked me into doing that, via infinity.
[14:01] <infinity> xnox: Oh, I guess you could work around the version issue by merging from experimental, if you're feeling bold.
[14:01] <infinity> (Might want to test in a devirt PPA first...)
[14:04] <kenvandine> mterry, sorry... i will look at it today!
[14:05] <mterry> kenvandine, no worries :)
[14:06] <cyphermox> good morning!
[14:06] <kenvandine> mterry, actually this MR isn't nearly as big as i thought... i don't need to worry about the vapi :)
[14:07] <mterry> kenvandine, but that's where I hid all my bugs!
[14:08] <kenvandine> :)
[14:13] <nemo> Say, anyone here use VPNs and might have a little sympathy for the rather-broken-yet-easyish-to-fix-once-figured-out behaviour of opensc and vmware-view ?
[14:13] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-view-client/+bug/1268770 I documented the fix I ended up doing, here.
[14:15] <kenvandine> mterry, to test this, i just need to uninstall duplicity right?
[14:15] <kenvandine> and run deja-dupe, which should prompt to install it?
[14:15] <mterry> kenvandine, yeah should do
[14:15] <mterry> kenvandine, specifically, run either of the preferences interfaces (running deja-dup from command line will just give an error)
[14:25] <VsyachePuz> seb128: look at this article - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/omg-5-five-ways-to-switch-between-workspaces-in-ubuntu there is a workspace switcher, which is long indicator - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Selection_0021.png
[14:25] <seb128> VsyachePuz, if you say so
[14:25] <seb128> VsyachePuz, to me it looks like an icon with a menu
[14:25] <seb128> it's 3.
[14:27] <VsyachePuz> seb128: ok, i am wrong. first looks like gnome workspace switcher
[14:30] <nemo> VsyachePuz: and the MATE one
[14:30] <nemo> gnome2 that is
[14:30] <nemo> I have it on my monitor just in front of me
[14:30] <nemo> my fav 'cause it has window shape, and icon for fullscreened windows
[14:31] <nemo> and, well, 'cause MATE
[14:41] <VsyachePuz> nemo: yes, I set wanda fish to 0 frames, and panel height to 64 pixels. Receive long image without problem.
[14:42] <nemo> VsyachePuz: ah. to each their own. me, I set the panel even smaller, to free up more vertical space on the monitor. I'm using 24px height
[14:43] <nemo> and only one bar
[14:44] <VsyachePuz> There is also WingPanel from Elementary OS, it allows widgets and AppIndicators, but didn't find specs
[14:45] <didrocks> VsyachePuz: there is clearly a way to achieve something like that with indicators (I guess generating multiple images and pushing them one after another). Look at workrave, they have some progress bar in their unity indicator
[14:59] <Mirv> hello. the big Bluez 5 landing (biggest part to vivid overlay, but also some to xenial) needs a core dev for one of the three silos: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-043-2-publish/15/ - packaging_changes there, run a job when ok with it
[14:59] <VsyachePuz> didrocks: it have a class for each type of panel... - https://github.com/rcaelers/workrave/blob/branch_v1_10/frontend/applets/indicator/src/indicator-workrave.c
[14:59] <Mirv> ticket with QA Granted approval at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/242
[14:59] <didrocks> VsyachePuz: indeed
[15:00] <Mirv> morphis is your point of contact regarding the silo itself
[15:05] <cpaelzer> pitti, I can confirm after updating autopkgtest to 3.18.1 it works on my trusty system - thanks
[15:05] <pitti> cpaelzer: great
[15:05] <VsyachePuz> didrocks: there https://github.com/rcaelers/workrave/tree/branch_v1_10/frontend/applets is "cinnamon", "common", "gnome-shell", "gnome2", "gnome3", "indicator", "mate", "Win32", "xfce". Are you it's author?
[15:06] <davmor2> cyphermox, seb128, pitti: is that silo something you could help with at all please ^^^
[15:06] <didrocks> VsyachePuz: not at all, just pointing something that I saw that could help you
[15:06] <kenvandine> mterry, i'm also seeing an error trying to install
[15:06] <kenvandine> The version 0.7.01-1ubuntu1/Ubuntu of duplicity isn't available.
[15:07] <VsyachePuz> didrocks:seb128: thanks
[15:07] <didrocks> yw
[15:08] <kenvandine> mterry, oh... i think i know why
[15:08] <mterry> hm
[15:14] <kenvandine> mterry, apt currently isn't happen with keys on my desktop :)
[15:14] <kenvandine> i bet that's causing packagekit to barf
[15:14] <mterry> kenvandine, keys?
[15:15] <kenvandine> apt spews GPG errors right now
[15:15] <mterry> oh ah
[15:15] <kenvandine> i need to sort that out, just haven't had time
[15:15] <kenvandine> mterry, i'm more concerned with the test failures, ideas?
[15:16] <mterry> kenvandine, test failures? Oh, I hadn't noticed. Let me run tests again
[15:16] <kenvandine> in package build http://paste.ubuntu.com/13365813/
[15:16] <mterry> kenvandine, say what
[15:16] <mterry> weird
[15:17] * mterry will try to reproduce, maybe that's only in a chroot
[15:21] <kenvandine> mterry, i fixed the gpg issues in apt and it's still failing to install
[15:21] <kenvandine> same error message
[15:22] <xnox> Laney, we have webhooks now, right? can transition tracker update itself everytime there is a push to the config branch?
[15:22] <kenvandine> mterry, could it be a missing depends? i don't have packagekit installed :)
[15:22] <mterry> kenvandine, I think you just need libpackagekit
[15:22] <mterry> kenvandine, it talks to aptdaemon
[15:23] <kenvandine> ah
[15:23] <mterry> kenvandine, nothing in this branch is working for you! :)
[15:23] <kenvandine> so not it
[15:23] <kenvandine> nope :/
[15:24] <morphis> cyphermox, seb128, pitti: anyone having time to help merging that silo?
[15:24] <seb128> morphis, "that silo"?
[15:24] <seb128> I lack context
[15:24] <cyphermox> morphis: looking...
[15:24] <seb128> k, seems cyphermox is on it ;-)
hello. the big Bluez 5 landing (biggest part to vivid overlay, but also some to xenial) needs a core dev for one of the three silos: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-043-2-publish/15/ - packaging_changes there, run a job when ok with it
ticket with QA Granted approval at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/242
[15:24] <morphis> cyphermox: thanks!
[15:24] <morphis> awe: ^^
[15:24] <seb128> oh, that's landing, great!
[15:25] <morphis> seb128: yes, finally :)
[15:25] <cyphermox> hum, wat
[15:26] <awe> w00t!
[15:27] <awe> seb128, looks like we have a fix for qt dbus too
[15:27] <seb128> awe, this week is a good one :-)
[15:27] <seb128> and way to wrap it
[15:29] <morphis> seb128: one of the next steps is to sync the landings of bluez on desktop and Touch
[15:29] <cyphermox> morphis: is indicator-bluetooth just a port to bluez5? that's not so obvious from the changelog
[15:30] <morphis> cyphermox: it is and just and merge with what is in wily/xenial
[15:30] <morphis> no further changes
[15:30] <seb128> morphis, right
[15:32] <cyphermox> I wasn't aware that we could permit this kind of very obvious deviation from SRU/backport rules for a stable release
[15:33] <awe> huh?
[15:33] <Mirv> cyphermox: overlay is treated differently vs features from actual Ubuntu releases
[15:33] <awe> isn't this a landing to the PPA?
[15:33] <cyphermox> Mirv: sure but I was under the impression that we were still asking that things that got in the overlay also got in SRUs
[15:34] <awe> um, no
[15:34] <awe> not for bluez5
[15:34] <awe> that would be super risky
[15:34] <infinity> cyphermox: The overlay is pretty Wild West. Sadly.
[15:34] <awe> if folks want bluez5 on the desktop, they upgrade to wily
[15:34] <infinity> cyphermox: Its entire raison d'etre is to circumvent SRU policy. :P
[15:34] <awe> this isn't a case of wild-west
[15:34] <awe> we landed bluez5 in wily
[15:35] <awe> and are backported to just touch
[15:35] <awe> as it's a huge change
[15:35] <awe> and requires lots of QA
[15:35] <awe> it'd be way too risky to SRU
[15:35] <awe> and AFAIK, nobody is asking us to
[15:36] <infinity> awe: It's a battle I lost long ago, but I think "it's too risky to SRU" also means "it's too risky to push in an OTA".
[15:36] <cyphermox> infinity: well, most things that happen in the overlay should still not just happen in the overlay, but backporting bluez is special
[15:36] <awe> desktop can be installed on an order of magnitude more devices than a touch release
[15:36] <awe> not a fair comparison at all
[15:36] <morphis> cyphermox, awe: there is some worked needed to get the same experience in a Touch image produced from xenial but that is a different story and will be worked on next
[15:40] <awe> morphis, indeed
[15:41] <cyphermox> morphis: so why does bluez have +15.04.20151023? just because silo, or is that frankensteined or a git cherry-pick?
[15:41] <morphis> cyphermox: it's landing through the citrain
[15:41] <morphis> and the origin for this is a MP
[15:41] <cyphermox> ok, that's what I thought
[15:43] <cyphermox> morphis: please make sure to upload all the extra patches you're adding to xenial, too, unless they'd be for some reason phone-only
[15:44] <cyphermox> (and upstream as appropriate)
[15:44] <morphis> cyphermox: that is the plan
[15:44] <morphis> I really want to align bluez uploads for current devel and phone
[15:44] <morphis> so that we upload the same to both together
[15:45] <morphis> but that is one of the next steps
[15:45] <caribou> I'm preparing a new kdump-tool package which require a change in its config file (/etc/default/kdump-tools)
[15:45] <caribou> what should the maintainer script do : display a warning ?
[15:45] <caribou> I also need to add a prompt to enable it by default
[15:46] <caribou> what is the appropriate way to address such a situation ?
[15:46] <mterry> kenvandine, ok, added missing build-dep to let deja-dup build in a pbuilder (whoops), and all tests pass there, as well as locally
[15:46] <mterry> kenvandine, how are you running it?
[15:46] <rbasak> caribou: was /etc/default/kdump-tools being shipped as a conffile previously?
[15:46] <caribou> rbasak: yes
[15:46] <rbasak> caribou: then you can just update it, and dpkg will take care of the prompt. Unless you want to avoid the prompt somehow.
[15:47] <mterry> kenvandine, ahem, accidentally pushed to trunk, will fix that
[15:47] <rbasak> caribou: ah, but adding a prompt to change the file based on the answer is trickier.
[15:47] <kenvandine> mterry, i just did a 'bzr bd'
[15:47] <cyphermox> morphis: same applies to pulse, I think we should have HSP support patches there too, and upstreamed, etc.
[15:47] <caribou> rbasak: yes, I understand that I will have the standard one, but is it expected to be sufficient ? if the user select the default which is to keep the old one, it may cause problems
[15:48] <caribou> rbasak: two config variable that were not used previously are expected to be enabled now
[15:48] <caribou> (i.e. they come with the new conffile)
[15:49] <morphis> cyphermox: yes, but as already said, that is the next step
[15:49] <rbasak> If the user blindly picks to keep the old conffile then there will always be problems IMHO.
[15:49] <morphis> cyphermox: take this for all changes in silo 43
[15:49] <rbasak> So I wouldn't be too worried about that case.
[15:49] <kenvandine> mterry, any ideas why it's failing to install?
[15:49] <rbasak> If you can detect it then you could warn the user through debconf in the postinst I suppose, if it's really important.
[15:49] <caribou> rbasak: ok, just wanted to be sure that showing a warning was not required
[15:49] <mterry> kenvandine, no, that also worked for me last time I tried it
[15:50] <kenvandine> mterry: The version 0.7.01-1ubuntu1/Ubuntu of duplicity isn't available.
[15:50] <kenvandine> that version string looks odd, with the /Ubuntu in it
[15:50] <cyphermox> morphis: yes, but I'm pointing it out because it's important, just ask here for a sponsor when you have an upload ready for xenial.
[15:50] <caribou> rbasak: well, in wily & xenial, kernel crash dump will fail if they're not enabled :-/
[15:50] <kenvandine> but i don't think your code is involved in that
[15:50] <mterry> kenvandine, it's also an old version
[15:50] <kenvandine> mterry, i'm on vivid + stable overlay
[15:50] <rbasak> caribou: I'm not sure what others would say but I'd say that no warning is required if all you're doing is updating a conffile. Providing it's really a conffile as seen by dpkg.
[15:50] <mterry> kenvandine, what release are you on?
[15:50] <mterry> kenvandine, ah hrm
[15:50] <morphis> cyphermox: yes
[15:50] <mterry> kenvandine, why? ;)
[15:50] <rbasak> caribou: however, if you want to prompt to change the file, that's tricker, because your maintainer script can't just go and modify the conffile.
[15:51] <rbasak> Since if it does dpkg will think the user modified it.
[15:51] <kenvandine> mterry, that's what i'm developing for right now :)
[15:51] <mterry> and xenial!
[15:51] <kenvandine> i'll switch soonish :)
[15:51] <kenvandine> mterry, do you think that's why it's failing?
[15:51] <mterry> kenvandine, looks like tests work for me in bzr bd too (just sanity checking)
[15:51] <mterry> kenvandine, probably not?
[15:52] <mterry> imma try again on my machine to install
[15:52] <morphis> cyphermox: btw. does anything speaks against releasing bluez through citrain with MP to xenial as well?
[15:52] <kenvandine> mterry, i already have libpackagekit-glib2-dev
[15:52] <mterry> kenvandine, yeah, if you didn't, it wouldn't even build
[15:52] <cyphermox> morphis: not really, aside from that it shouldn't be an MP, it should be a direct upload
[15:52] <cyphermox> that way we don't have outlanding version numbers
[15:53] <morphis> which makes a coordinated review process pretty hard
[15:53] <cyphermox> ie. we should be more or less in line with the debian packaging if possible, and not have special versions
[15:53] <cyphermox> no
[15:53] <kenvandine> mterry, could the test failures have anything to do with me being on vivid?
[15:53] <caribou> rbasak: my guess is that if the user doesn't bring in the new config file which is part of the fix, then he shouldn't be surprized if it doesn't work
[15:53] <cyphermox> it's the same review in silos
[15:53] <mterry> kenvandine, I also doubt that
[15:53] <kenvandine> i wouldn't think so
[15:53] <morphis> cyphermox: so where do I do my review then? there is no real instance I can put my comments in
[15:54] <cyphermox> morphis: do it in a bug
[15:54] <cyphermox> if you want to do things in a MP, you're free to keep stuff there
[15:54] <cyphermox> but the upload through the silo shouldn't be via a MP
[15:54] <mterry> kenvandine, ok install worked for me (w/ deja-dup-preferences, but "unity-control-center deja-dup" crashes for me!)
[15:55] <mterry> kenvandine, so I'm going to look at that crash
[15:55] <cyphermox> should work just the same as NM, basically. you have a packaging branch, just it's not relevant to the silos
[15:55] <mterry> kenvandine, and I can't explain either of the failures you see
[15:55] <kenvandine> i'm building in sbuild now
[15:55] <rbasak> caribou: agreed
[15:55] <rbasak> caribou: that part is fine.
[15:55] <cyphermox> that is, unless there's a way to use the MPs anyway but not having version number mangling because of it
[15:55] <mterry> kenvandine, what does "apt-cache policy duplicity" say?
[15:55] <caribou> rbasak: ok, thanks!
[15:55] <rbasak> caribou: but if you want to display a prompt on install and ask the user about a default, then you can't just modify the conffile to store the result.
[15:55] <kenvandine> Installed: (none)
[15:55] <kenvandine> Candidate: 0.7.01-1ubuntu1
[15:56] <rbasak> caribou: because then the user will get an unexpected dpkg prompt on a future upgrade.
[15:56] <morphis> cyphermox: so where can I comment then directly on the source which is landing in the bug?
[15:56] <cyphermox> morphis: I don't know what you mean by that
[15:56] <caribou> rbasak: the conffile will come with the default, so choosing the default will not modify the conffile
[15:56] <rbasak> caribou: what if the user chooses the non-default?
[15:57] <caribou> rbasak: then we would want him to confirm that he changed the default behavior on the next upgrade, right ?
[15:57] <cyphermox> merge proposals don't *have* to be used with a silo landing, they're not linked to it. You're free to prepare a merge in a separate branch for a new package upload and file a merge request against the real packaging branch
[15:57] <caribou> rbasak: default being kernel crash dump is enabled
[15:58] <rbasak> caribou: no, then the next upgrade should remember what the user asked for and make it continue to happen without prompting.
[15:58] <rbasak> caribou: there is a distinction here between users modifying conffiles themselves directly (in which case we expect them to know what they're doing and handle a conffile prompt by themselves) and choosing an option in a menu (in which case a conffile prompt isn't acceptable).
[15:59] <caribou> rbasak: ok, then the script will check if a previous value exist (I suppose that it is the expected way to do)
[15:59] <cyphermox> morphis: the problem with silo version numbering is that in the case of non-Canonical projects, it's confusing: it essentially means you're taking a snapshot of a source code repository at a specific point in time, which is false for bluez -- we're taking a release tarball, and adding patches on top via quilt or whatnot.
[15:59] <rbasak> caribou: there are a few different ways of approaching this. ucf might be appropriate here.
[15:59] <caribou> rbasak: that's the first time I do one from scratch, I'll fetch a few example in other packages
[16:00] <mvo> infinity: took a bit longer (wanted to get to it at the start of the week already) but https://launchpad.net/~mvo/+archive/ubuntu/apt-xenial/+packages is coming together, I guess early next week we can land the new apt 1.2^W2.0 in xenial
[16:00] <caribou> mvo: what can be longer than infinitty ?
[16:00] <mvo> caribou: lol
[16:01] <infinity> mvo: 2.0, you say?
[16:01] <morphis> cyphermox: basically I prefer the way of handing things of to automatic process and only say yes or no to what needs to land. With this I have to merge the MP, build a source package myself and upload it (through someone else) to the silo
[16:01] <infinity> mvo: I guess it does have a lot of new shiny, but after a decade of 0.x, jumping to 2 is very chrome/firefox of you. :P
[16:01] <caribou> rbasak: if you don't mind, I'll show you what I got working before I upload. You should be back by then
[16:01] <morphis> where in the last two steps through the manual process something can be added to the package which I didn't reviewed
[16:03] <rbasak> caribou: sure
[16:03] <cyphermox> morphis: what?
[16:03] <cjwatson> mvo: FYI I've been doing some very preliminary work on by-hash support in LP, but I want to get xz indexes landed first
[16:04] <cyphermox> morphis: whatever the method used is, bluez should certainly *not* have a version number of 5.35+32095 in the archive, because it's completely incorrect and misleading
[16:04] <awe> cyphermox, it's something I've pointed out in the past as well
[16:04] <awe> cyphermox, I thought this was about a landing to the PPA?
[16:04] <cjwatson> mvo: which is going to involve some internal shuffling, because I think the right approach for that is to enable xz only for >= xenial (and disable bz2 once things are working well)
[16:04] <rbasak> xz indexes would be really nice. Thank you for working on it!
[16:04] <morphis> awe: it is
[16:05] <cyphermox> awe: notice I said in the archive, and I let your silo through already
[16:05] <awe> cyphermox, thanks
[16:05] <cyphermox> which, in retrospect, was wrong because now it's be always higher than anything unless we upload 5.36
[16:05] <infinity> Yeah, that shouldn't be in the overlay either.
[16:06] <morphis> cyphermox: thanks!
[16:06] <infinity> If it was copied to the overlay, please get someone to delete it and re-upload with a sane version.
[16:06] <cyphermox> oh, but we do have 5.36 in xenial
[16:06] <infinity> Or, I guess, if xenial is already higher, whatever.
[16:06] <cyphermox> infinity: I'm tempted to not care for this case because xenial is already higher, yeah
[16:06] <infinity> But distro packages with a proper orig shouldn't be re-packed with strange versions for silos.
[16:07] <mvo> cjwatson: nice! will by-hash use apt-ftparchive? if so I might need to put some more work into it, I'm not sure how well the current approaches scale in there (i.e. if it can handle this size of an archive without getting too slow)
[16:07] <morphis> cyphermox, infinity: why don't we modify citrain then to do proper version numbers for those packages?
[16:07] <mvo> infinity: 1.2 vs 2.0 is a bit of an internal joke :P its probably going to be 1.2 its pretty nice and shinney but maybe not 2.0 shinny
[16:08] <awe> morphis, +1
[16:08] <cyphermox> morphis: by all means.
[16:08] <cyphermox> robru: sil2100: ^
[16:08] <morphis> there are multiple things:
[16:08] <morphis> having a MP gives us a review protocol with all things documented
[16:09] <morphis> all back and forth
[16:09] <morphis> using an MP in citrain and a silo ensures that we only land what is in the MP and nobody has the chance to include anything else
[16:09] <morphis> which isn't reviewed by others
[16:09] <cyphermox> nobody would include anything else when doing a direct upload to the PPA
[16:09] <awe> morphis, yes... you're correct, and there's been much back and forth over this issue for as long as I've worked on touch
[16:10] <awe> cyphermox, but they *could*
[16:10] <cyphermox> those who have access to do it are expected to know better, unless they have a very good reason
[16:10] <morphis> exactly
[16:10] <cyphermox> meh
[16:10] <awe> people can make mistakes
[16:10] <awe> it's a valid point
[16:10] <morphis> if we have the automatic to do such things why don't we use them?
[16:11] <awe> morphis, we do
[16:11] <awe> primarily for packages developed by Canonical
[16:11] <awe> it gets trickier when we're talking about packages that we mostly maintain
[16:12] <morphis> but I don't see any reason not to use them (optional) for other components too if the maintainer / developer wants to
[16:12] <morphis> my primary reason for bluez is that we have to coordinate now between different kinds of users
[16:12] <morphis> Desktop, touch, IoT
[16:13] <morphis> which brings in a bunch of different use cases and we have to ensure nothing breaks any of those use cases
[16:13] <awe> morphis, sure... except there are some problems when doing so. One being the version mangling
[16:14] <infinity> And what's the MP against? It's not against the archive.
[16:14] <infinity> Which is authoritative.
[16:14] <infinity> So "the MP makes sure no unwanted changes get in" is false.
[16:14] <morphis> against the packaging branch
[16:14] <awe> how do you propose a MP against a tarball??
[16:14] <awe> if there is one
[16:15] <cyphermox> infinity: morphis has a pretty good packaging branch
[16:15] <infinity> I don't propose an MP against a tarball.
[16:15] <infinity> Cause the tarball shouldn't change. :P
[16:15] <infinity> Except, it is changing.
[16:15] <cyphermox> morphis: the point is people could upload and not notice there was a packaging branch
[16:15] <cjwatson> mvo: We need to have a way to put things into the by-hash arrangement for PPAs too, so we might as well just do that bit of it ourselves - so we'd still be using apt-ftparchive, but then moving the results around afterwards
[16:15] <infinity> Which is wrong.
[16:15] <morphis> infinity: IMHO all changes should go into the packaging branch first even if the archive is the authoritative
[16:15] <cyphermox> or upload not going through the silo, because any core dev is free to upload any package
[16:15] <cjwatson> rbasak: Is your interest just for size reasons?
[16:16] <awe> morphis, not all packages have packaging branches
[16:16] <infinity> morphis: That's a lovely opinion, but factually incorrect for anything I can upload to the archive.
[16:16] <awe> eg. qtbase
[16:16] <infinity> morphis: Sorry to burst your bubble with reality.
[16:16] <awe> come on guys
[16:16] <awe> can we please re-focus
[16:16] <morphis> awe: I don't mean everything in the archive needs to take this approach
[16:16] <awe> on what needs to happen for bluez5?
[16:16] <cjwatson> rbasak: (it's a little smaller, but not lots smaller)
[16:16] <awe> and save this discussion for later?
[16:16] <morphis> however for a single component I need to maintain across different use cases it makes life a lot easier
[16:17] <cyphermox> awe: simple, either upload directly to the silo, and/or fix the versioning in citrain.
[16:17] <awe> no argument
[16:17] <awe> cyphermox, there are three silos
[16:17] <awe> one for ofono dual landing
[16:17] <awe> AFAIK, that's OK
[16:17] <awe> then we have a silo for indicator, et al that's dual-landing
[16:17] <cyphermox> any bluez upload in a silo should be a direct upload until the train knows not to touch the version number in that case
[16:17] <awe> the final silo for bluez5 is just PPA
[16:18] <awe> so are you asking us to fix the second silo?
[16:18] <infinity> cjwatson: Assuming apt is picking a sane dictionary size, xz is probably also faster to decompress than bz2, which is a nice win.
[16:18] <awe> cyphermox, so the issue is that the version number of the bluez silo for ppa upload only is wrong?
[16:18] <cyphermox> and tbh, it could be as simple as looking at .bzr-builddeb/default.conf for a specific option, depending on what morphis uses in the packaging branch
[16:18] <infinity> cjwatson: bz2 is so terribad that I tend to force gz all over the place and take the bandwidth hit instead. :P
[16:18] <cyphermox> awe: I suppose. I have only looked at one silo
[16:19] <awe> so which silo are you objecting to? # please?
[16:19] <cyphermox> I was objecting to the verion that was in silo 43
[16:19] <cyphermox> I let it through, but it was wrong
[16:19] <dupingping> I am proud that I became a Ubuntu member.
[16:19] * awe looks
[16:20] <cyphermox> except it's not the biggest deal for this case because it's still lower than what is in xenial
[16:20] <morphis> cyphermox: so there is no TODO left for us to land bluez5 for right now?
[16:20] <cyphermox> are you trying to do other bluez landings?
[16:20] <morphis> not yet
[16:20] <cjwatson> infinity: I think it just uses xz's default, i.e. -6
[16:21] <cjwatson> which is an 8MiB dictionary size
[16:21] <morphis> cyphermox: but I would like to ugprade to .36
[16:21] <morphis> cyphermox: so lets do it like this:
[16:21] <morphis> we take what we have right now
[16:21] <infinity> cjwatson: Yeah, I think -6 is generally faster than bz2 for decompression (much worse for compression, but who cares).
[16:21] <morphis> we have to do some bug fixes anyway for bluez during the ota9 cycle
[16:21] <morphis> and I would like to get 5.36 into ota9 as well
[16:21] <cjwatson> infinity: I care a little, but it's probably dominated by other things
[16:21] <morphis> as it includes bug fixes we should better have
[16:21] <cjwatson> Will find out a bit later
[16:22] <morphis> cyphermox: so my next landing will not use a MP but a manually uploaded package which fixes the version number, ok?
[16:22] <cyphermox> if you want to get to 5.36 in the overlay, just merge whatever we have in xenial with what is currently in the overlay, and then direct upload to the silo you'll do your landing with
[16:22] <cyphermox> you can still use a packaging branch, the only thing that won't be a MP will be what the train uses to land
[16:22] <rbasak> cjwatson: decompression speed reasons.
[16:22] <cyphermox> you're still free to use MPs to prepare the work
[16:23] <morphis> cyphermox: agreed
[16:23] <awe> cyphermox, unless we get a fix for CI by then
[16:23] <cyphermox> awe: sure
[16:23] <awe> we should be able to special case this
[16:23] <rbasak> cjwatson: bz2 decompression often seems to be the reason that apt holds things up. I don't have numbers but I believe xz decompression is significantly faster.
[16:23] <awe> if we can't get a more generic fix
[16:24] <stgraber> hallyn: can you look at the lxcfs test failure? https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/i386/l/lxcfs/20151120_091728@/log.gz
[16:24] <stgraber> hallyn: doesn't seem to be racy or if it is, well, it's mostly failing
[16:25] <cjwatson> infinity: So, it'll certainly slow down the publisher some. Unscientific: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13367748/ (those are apt's default settings)
[16:25] <infinity> cjwatson: Given the nature of Packages/Sources/Translation (ascii and/or utf-8, only one or two languages, highly repetetive), one could probably experiment with even smaller dictionaries than the default, but I'm not sure it's worth it.
[16:27] <cjwatson> infinity: Dictionary size also determines memory requirements for decompression
[16:27] <infinity> cjwatson: Indeed, I'm quite familiar with the handy table in the manpage. :)
[16:28] <cjwatson> infinity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13367838/
[16:28] <rbasak> So when is apt going to automatically drop back to gz when the dictionary in the xz is too big? :)
[16:29] <cjwatson> corresponding Packages.bz2 is 6971349 bytes, Packages.gz is 8998549 bytes
[16:30] <rbasak> Big leap seems to be at -4 from a quick glance
[16:30] <hallyn> stgraber: i386, bet it's a 32/64bit error in the recentmeminfo code i merged
[16:30] <cjwatson> decompression (on pepo) of default settings for Packages.bz2 is ~1.3s, Packages.xz ~0.65s
[16:31] <infinity> cjwatson: Yeah, that's kinda leading me to believe -6 is just fine, so long as the publisher doesn't have a massive sad about it.
[16:31] <cjwatson> decompressing xz -4 is about the same, maybe a few centiseconds slower
[16:31] <infinity> We don't support anything where the memory pressure from decompressing -6 should be a problem.
[16:31] <stgraber> hallyn: that's an amd64 failure, different and probably caused by the change of uptime layout: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/l/lxcfs/20151120_051440@/log.gz
[16:32] <cjwatson> infinity: suggests to me that it will add about two minutes to publisher runtime for a release pocket
[16:32] <hallyn> stgraber: uh, i chnaged that testcase to handle that. wtf
[16:32] <infinity> cjwatson: Drop ls-lR, and you come out even. :P
[16:33] <cjwatson> infinity: xz -4 would be more like a minute or less I think
[16:33] <infinity> cjwatson: Yeah, I like -4 on the publisher side, but I like it less on the client side, at least from those numbers.
[16:33] <kenvandine> mterry, i get the same failures in sbuild
[16:34] <mterry> kenvandine, you're a monster
[16:34] <cjwatson> infinity: It's a little less compelling, true
[16:34] <infinity> cjwatson: I suppose benchmarking decompression on something craptastic like a Panda (or a Fast Model!) would perhaps also help.
[16:34] <kenvandine> mterry, :-p
[16:34] <kenvandine> mterry, vivid chroot though
[16:34] <cjwatson> infinity: do you have one handy?
[16:34] <kenvandine> mterry, i'll try with xenial
[16:34] <infinity> cjwatson: I do indeed.
[16:34] <mterry> kenvandine, I don't know why it would be different, but worth a shot
[16:35] <hallyn> stgraber: the amd64 testcases id efinately ran locally...
[16:35] <cjwatson> infinity: (anyway, ls-lR is in finalize, so it's not on the critical path for e.g. proposed-migration kicking off)
[16:35] <stgraber> hallyn: well, it does pass, sometimes: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/l/lxcfs/20151120_014250@/log.gz
[16:36] <cjwatson> I'm more concerned by timings before the dists switch.
[16:38] <hallyn> stgraber: oh, but wiat, that amd64 failure, args are opposite of what i expected. the test isn't wrong, for some reason lxcfs really did spit out ints instead of floats.
[16:38] <hallyn> all righ ti'll figure it out
[16:40] <infinity> cjwatson: Well, I can tell you that Pandas sure suck at compressing things. :P
[16:40] <infinity> cjwatson: When that's done, I'll decompress a bit for you.
[16:43] <hallyn> stgraber: those two runs are installing different versions of lxcfs before running the tests
[16:43] <hallyn> looks like a testrunner eror to me
[16:44] <infinity> cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13368221/
[16:44] <infinity> cjwatson: So -6 looks reproducibly faster client-side (I assume not true once you swap but, again, we shouldn't support anything with that sort of memory pressure).
[16:45] <infinity> cjwatson: Anything xz is such a massive win over bzip2 though, that it's really about how much bandwidth win we're getting over gzip.
[16:45] <hallyn> stgraber: indeed that older version spit out integers
[16:47] <cjwatson> infinity: Right. Not a huge amount of difference over -4, so perhaps we can start out with -6 and then drop to -4 if the publisher slowdown is too difficult.
[16:48] <hallyn> pitti: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/l/lxcfs/20151120_051440@/log.gz
[16:48] <hallyn> pitti: ^ that one is building the xenial-proposed package, but it installs the xenial package, then runs the xenial-proposed tests against xenial pkg (which fails, correctly)
[16:56] <dupingping> hi, popey_
[16:56] <dupingping> how are you today?
[16:56] <dupingping> I sent an email to sabdfl
[16:57] <popey> ok
[16:58] <dupingping> at the email, I asked about the time when the cert mail arrived here.
[16:59] <dupingping> popey: Mark will be very busy, right?
[16:59] <popey> I did say be patient
[16:59] <popey> You seem to not be doing that
[17:00] <dupingping> yes, I'm just waiting.
[17:00] <popey> pinging mark isn't waiting, but anyway, you choice
[17:01] <hallyn> stgraber: well this i386 lxcfs crash is not at all what i expected. seems to be a glibc bug in realloc.
[17:02] <infinity> hallyn: You have a pointer?
[17:02] <dupingping> popey: yes, I'll wait.
[17:02] * infinity waits for "no, that's the problem."
[17:02] <hallyn> infinity: not sure what you mean by a pointer - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13368646/ is the gdb stracktrace
[17:03] <infinity> hallyn: I meant a pointer to the bug, rather than a pointer to memory. ;)
[17:03] <hallyn> oh. no open bug i know of but it's https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/i386/l/lxcfs/20151120_091728@/log.gz
[17:03] * davmor2 points at infinity "no, you're the problem" close enough right?
[17:03] * hallyn back in a few, sigh
[17:05] <hallyn> wonder if a little c prog can reproduce this
[17:05] <dupingping> popey: i got a reply from him.
[17:05] <dupingping> very kind
[17:05] <popey> Good stuff
[17:05] <pitti> hallyn: ah, thanks for pointing that out; indeed, I'll look into that on Monday
[17:05] <dupingping> So I'll wait.
[17:06] * pitti waves
[17:08] <hallyn> pitti: thx
[17:09] <hallyn> oh, actually this may be a bit urgent - it means lxcfs on xenial has unfixed cves until that clears
[17:10] <infinity> hallyn: We don't promise security support in the devel series, it's not terribly urgent.
[17:12] <hallyn> ok
[17:12] <hallyn> so i can't reproduce this standalone so i must be messing something up in the context
[17:14] <infinity> hallyn: I kinda want to blame fuse, but I haven't looked closely.
[17:16] <hallyn> infinity: it's possible another thread is to blame i suppose
[17:16] <hallyn> fwiw http://paste.ubuntu.com/13368976/ shows the relevant values, everything looks sane
[17:17] <hallyn> maybe if i thread my testcase
[17:17] <infinity> hallyn: I'm hip-deep in punchcards, but if no one's got a better idea by EOD Monday, give me a jab.
[17:18] <hallyn> you're supposed to swim in *money* not punchards
[17:18] <hallyn> thx, will do
[17:18] <infinity> hallyn: Yeah, I didn't read the fine print.
[17:37] <rmblrd21> would ubuntu-devel be the right place to report that ubuntu updates break ath10k support everytime an update is coming in?
[17:37] <rmblrd21> kernel update of course
[17:37] <rmblrd21> sry, mean firmware file update
[17:41] <dobey> a bug report on the ath10k package would be the right place i would think
[17:41] <rmblrd21> ok
[17:43] <hallyn> shoulda looked higher in the scrollback earlier - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13369752/
[17:46] <hallyn> i guess glibc is putting its foot down.
[18:13] <hallyn> stgraber: ok so i do think this is a glibc bug, but i'm going to post a workaround for lxcfs for now
[18:14] <hallyn> (glibc is throwing an assertion, i think, bc i'm reallocing to a size which isn't big enough compared to the prev size. shouldn't do that)
[18:26] <kenvandine> mterry, same failures in a xenial build (sbuild)
[18:28] <mterry> kenvandine, guh
[18:28] <kenvandine> sorry, i'm an evil monster :)
[18:31] <kenvandine> mterry, in case it's useful, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13370636/
[18:32] <mterry> kenvandine, a bunch of "Failed with an unknown error"... :(
[18:33] <kenvandine> yeah, doesn't seem useful
[18:39] <hallyn> stgraber: proposed fix: https://github.com/lxc/lxcfs/pull/54 but i'm now going to rebuild glibc with some debugging to see the root cause
[18:42] <mterry> barry, just to give you an update on the duplicity side of the python3-only effort, I have a branch ready to let deja-dup install duplicity on-demand. But it's apparently not working in all cases. Working on it slowly
[18:46] <attente> hi, where is the file /etc/environment coming from?
[18:48] <attente> what project would i have to checkout to add a line to it?
[19:00] <infinity> attente: It's written by various installers at install time. What line did you want to add, and why?
[19:02] <attente> infinity: GTK_IM_MODULE=Maliit, which will be needed eventually (not yet) to get gtk apps communicating with the osk. but only on the phone, not on the desktop
[19:04] <infinity> attente: That almost certainly belongs in some sort of graphical session startup, not in /etc/environment.
[19:04] <attente> infinity: so should the line for QT_IM_MODULE=maliitphablet be moved elsewhere?
[19:05] <infinity> attente: If that's in /etc/environment on the phone today, yeah, that should probably be elsewhere too. :P
[19:06] <attente> infinity: heh, ok. any ideas for where would be good? i'll move the QT one too
[19:07] <infinity> attente: But if it is, and you're just looking to double-up on the same hack, it looks like it lives in livecd-rootfs//livecd-rootfs/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/48-setup-env.chroot
[19:07] <infinity> attente: I have no strong opinions about where it *should* be, but I suspect someone in #ubuntu-desktop could point you at how graphical sessions are meant to be set up.
[19:08] <infinity> attente: For now, though, the path of least resistance would be to pile on top of the existing livecd-rootfs hack, it seems.
[19:08] <attente> infinity: ok, great, thanks. i won't add it since i don't need it quite yet, but it's good to know just in case
[19:32] <barry> mterry: ok, thanks for the update
[20:03] <tdaitx> infinity, I just grabber a xenial schroot and its sources.list file is set to wily
[20:03] <infinity> tdaitx: Yup. It's a wily chroot, lp-buildd overrides sources.list.
[20:03] <tdaitx> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/222053869/chroot-ubuntu-xenial-amd64.tar.bz2
[20:03] <infinity> tdaitx: I should probably freshen them soon.
[20:04] <tdaitx> infinity, oh, sbuild-launchpad-chroot does not override that
[20:04] <infinity> tdaitx: No, indeed, I think cyphermox had a patch to fix that.
[20:04] <cyphermox> err, it's in xenial already
[20:05] <infinity> tdaitx: There you go. Grab xenial's version.
[20:05] <cyphermox> tdaitx: you want sbuild-launchpad-chroot 0.13 yeah
[20:05] <tdaitx> yeah that explains, I'm using a wily distro,
[20:05] <tdaitx> cyphermox, thanks =)
[20:07] <tdaitx> infinity, thank you o>
[20:09] <infinity> RAOF: Hey, you know how long ago, Debian X tried really hard (and very successfully) to make X completely scorched-earth bootstrappable by splitting out x11proto-* and lib* and such, and carefully avoiding circular deps?
[20:09] <infinity> RAOF: That's totally broken in Ubuntu now with mesa and mir interdepending. :P
[20:09] <infinity> RAOF: (Easy loop to break, but annoying)
[20:16] <mterry> kenvandine, testing the branch on my other wily laptop, everything passes and I was able to install duplicity
[20:16] <tdaitx> infinity, heh, my first run in with circular dependencies in packages was as a gentoo user long ago, trying to build gnome... iirc there was a particular way to go, otherwise it ended up in a circular dependency hell
[20:16] <mterry> kenvandine, I don't get why we are seeing two very different results
[20:16] <mterry> kenvandine, I also fixed the crasher I was seeing
[20:16] <infinity> tdaitx: I'm quite practised at this. ;)
[20:17] <kenvandine> mterry, dunno... no idea what could be different
[20:20] <mterry> you tested in a clean xenial environment and got the error. I don't get why I wouldn't see it in my clean environments
[20:22] <mterry> kenvandine, is there anything that sbuild takes from your environment/HOME? ... does trunk give the same errors for you?
[20:23] <kenvandine> mterry, freshly created xenial sbuild schroot
[20:23] <kenvandine> not sure
[20:23] <kenvandine> i can try trunk too
[20:24] <mterry> kenvandine, sorry man for the trouble
[20:24] <kenvandine> no worries
[20:35] <kenvandine> mterry, trunk has the same failures in sbuild with xenial
[20:36] <mterry> kenvandine, ok. so at least no regression... and I doubt the usefulness of those failures, since deja-dup has built in LP in September
[20:36] <mterry> with no changes in trunk
[20:38] <mterry> well... some changes in trunk
[20:38] <mterry> but nothing I would expect would cause that (removed some unused code)
[20:39] <kenvandine> mterry, building it on my vivid laptop now
[20:42] <kenvandine> mterry, also trying under a fresh user account as well
[20:44] <kenvandine> mterry, same failures on my vivid desktop when built under a new user account, so that rules out env from my home
[20:45] <mterry> kenvandine, gar!
[20:45] <kenvandine> mterry, still building on my laptop... xenial with sbuild
[20:45] * mterry is trying to think
[20:45] <mterry> so something in my account?
[20:45] <mterry> maybe I'll try a fresh user
[20:45] <mterry> But LP doesn't mind it...
[20:46] <kenvandine> maybe it would now
[20:46] <kenvandine> tests starting on my laptop :)
[20:46] <kenvandine> 53% tests passed, 45 tests failed out of 95
[20:46] <kenvandine> same thing on my laptop :/
[20:48] <kenvandine> mterry, so your box has the secret sauce :)
[21:05] <mterry> kenvandine, fresh account on my wily box built fine
[21:05] <mterry> kenvandine, am trying in LP as a tie-breaker build :)
[21:05] <kenvandine> mterry, :/
[21:14] <smoser> infinity, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-wily/+bug/1511497 can you make netboot-wily exist in places like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-proposed/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ ?
[21:17] <infinity> smoser: That's the plan.
[21:17] <infinity> smoser: It's a next-week TODO.
[21:18] <smoser> k. thanks. if it happens by monday i can snif test amd64 and i386 netboot installers easily enough and verify.
[21:21] <rharper> is there a maximum length for launchpad userid? 32 chars?
[21:23] <cjwatson> rharper: No explicit limit
[21:23] <cjwatson> rharper: It will be rather inconvenient past a certain point :-)
[21:24] <rharper> cjwatson: interesting ok; right; what would you suggest as reasonable? < 255 ?
[21:24] <smoser> ah, but you see, rharper is implementing storage backend in launchpad user names.
[21:24] <cjwatson> rharper: Er, I don't know. Why?
[21:24] <rharper> smoser: the first rule of hidden storage backends is that we don't talk about where we're implementing them
[21:25] <smoser> DOH!
[21:25] <rharper> cjwatson: taking input to pass to ssh-import-id lp:<foo> and wanted to have a sensible limit without preventing folks from putting in their launchpad id
[21:25] <cjwatson> The current maximum length in use on dogfood is 496, almost certainly because at one point there was a bug in collision handling for automatically-generated names that resulted in ridiculous growth
[21:25] <cjwatson> I suspect names that long are not in fact in use
[21:26] <smoser> hm.. if you raised that to 512 it'd be much more convenient for block size.
[21:26] <rharper> haha
[21:26] <kirkland> :-)
[21:26] <cjwatson> The maximum name length of person rows who have an sshkey is 210 (again, on dogfood, since that's what I can query directly)
[21:27] <rharper> cjwatson: cool, thanks
[21:27] <kirkland> rharper: should I be expecting a patch from you on this? :-)
[21:27] <rharper> kirkland: no, no changes to ssh-import-id
[21:28] <cjwatson> and that's a username I really can't believe anyone is actually using, and yet it has an sshkey ...
[21:29] <cjwatson> maybe the victim of some peculiar renaming bug
[21:34] <cjwatson> everything over 64 with an sshkey either has multiple -deactivatedaccount on the end or is one of the victims of https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1099297 and thus has ridiculous amounts of junk prepended and appended to a tiny local part
[23:42] <ichdasich> heho
[23:43] <ichdasich> a little far fetched, but is there a valid security contact process for canonical infrastructure?
[23:46] <sbeattie> ichdasich: for canonical infrastructure? [email protected] ([email protected] is for issues with the distro itself)
[23:46] <ichdasich> sbeattie: kthx, did not come clear from the cannonical page
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-installer
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[23:26] <tron103> Is it possible to generate an initrd.gz+kernel on a running system, for use in pxe-based installs using debian-installer?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.954158
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-ops
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[00:38] <k1l_> he is back: nlackbigger (b23ef15f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.62.241.95) hat #ubuntu betreten
[00:41] <k1l_> so might be hitting -offtopic soon
[01:01] <k1l_> curiously now the pm harassment troll joined and started its work: teethxy ([email protected])
[06:37] <marcustomlinson> Is there anyone here who can un-ban thostr_ from the #ubuntu-touch channel? Seems he can't join for some reason
[23:57] <bazhang> augh
[23:57] <bazhang> the version chaser guy
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-arm
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[23:06] <ModFather> hi There,
[23:06] <ModFather> can i install Ubuntu Mate, on my raspberry pi 1 ( model 2011 ) ?
[23:10] <k1l_> sadly no.
[23:10] <k1l_> the rpi1 got a too old chip architecture.
[23:10] <ModFather> :( thanks
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[12:25] <SlidingHorn> Is the LoCo still alive? Didn't see any recent updates on the portal
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-20-#bzr
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[18:31] <orbisvicis> how can I determine if uri is bzr repo ?
[18:42] <mgz> `bzr info url`
[18:45] <orbisvicis> that does seem the fastest way, thanks
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2015-11-20-#launchpad
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[09:50] <hanno> I have uploaded a source package and then found out that my key was missing. A day later, I have uploaded the key now.
[09:50] <hanno> On https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors it says there is a "PPA build status page" but I cannot find it for my ppa.
[09:50] <hanno> dput says the package is already there, but I don't know where to look for the build status.
[09:52] <hanno> Oh, never mind. I think I found the problem.
[11:46] <cjwatson> hanno: If LP rejected your upload due to a missing key, it won't automatically reprocess the upload once the key appears - you'll need to reupload for it.
[11:46] <hanno> Yes, thank you. I fixed it by now.
[11:46] <hanno> Now I'm with a different problem. Is it okay to ask packaging questions here or is there a better channel?
[11:47] * hanno is fighting with .deb
[11:47] <cjwatson> hanno: I think there's #ubuntu-packaging or some such
[11:47] <cjwatson> It's not dreadful to ask here, but there may be better places.
[11:47] <hanno> ok, thx.
[13:50] <hanno> cjwatson: nobody in ubuntu-packaging. Dead channel?
[13:53] <cjwatson> hanno: I don't know, sorry
[13:53] <cjwatson> I did say "or some such", not remembering exactly
[13:55] <cjwatson> hanno: Feel free to ask, anyway, we can find somewhere to redirect you if it ends up being too much
[14:19] <hanno> What I'm looking for is a good tutorial on how to populate the debian/patches directory.
[14:19] <hanno> I can get a simple package ready by now, but don't know how to patch the original source tree.
[14:25] <cjwatson> hanno: perhaps https://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt will help
[14:27] <cjwatson> or https://raphaelhertzog.com/2012/08/08/how-to-use-quilt-to-manage-patches-in-debian-packages/
[14:28] <hanno> thx.
[16:46] <sergio-br2> "source has expired binaries"
[16:46] <sergio-br2> what's this?
[17:18] <cjwatson> sergio-br2: Context is a helpful thing
[17:19] <cjwatson> sergio-br2: But you're probably trying to copy a package that hasn't been published anywhere for a while and so has had its binaries garbage-collected.
[17:19] <sergio-br2> hey cjwatson
[17:20] <sergio-br2> yup, I was trying to copy
[17:20] <sergio-br2> from toolchain PPA
[17:20] <sergio-br2> gcc 4.9.3 from trusty
[17:24] <cjwatson> sergio-br2: I haven't managed to pick out the exact cause, but my bet is that, although most of it is still published, one of the gazillion binaries produced by gcc-4.9 has been superseded by one of the other gcc-* source packages in that same PPA
[17:24] <cjwatson> sergio-br2: and as a result LP no longer has all the binaries from that source and so can't do a copy-with-binaries
[17:24] <cjwatson> sergio-br2: if you need that specific version then the only thing you can do is to copy-without-binaries and rebuild it
[17:25] <sergio-br2> weird, I can see the binaries...
[17:25] <sergio-br2> there's gcc-4.9 and gcc 5.0
[17:25] <sergio-br2> different packages
[17:28] <cjwatson> Right, but one of the many individual binaries probably has the same name in a higher-versioned source package and thus was taken over by it
[17:56] <sergio-br2> ok, let's try to build then
[17:56] <sergio-br2> will take a day heh
[22:41] <sigmavirus24> I'm reading the documentation for https://help.launchpad.net/API/Webhooks and it looks like I cannot use webhooks unless I'm in a special group and the event is a VCS push? Is that still correct?
[22:58] <cjwatson> sigmavirus24: we just lifted the team restriction today - I've edited the docs to remove that bit
[22:58] <cjwatson> sigmavirus24: VCS push and merge proposal changes
[23:02] <sigmavirus24> cjwatson: okay, I was hoping for issue event changes on a project
[23:02] <sigmavirus24> Thanks for the info though cjwatson
[23:02] <cjwatson> sigmavirus24: please do file bugs for specific other use cases you have
[23:03] <cjwatson> sigmavirus24: it's not too difficult for us to extend webhooks to more objects now that we've done the hard work of building the infrastructure for it
[23:06] <sigmavirus24> cjwatson: bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad is the right place for that, correct? (My first time filing a bug against Launchpad)
[23:06] <cjwatson> sigmavirus24: yep
[23:07] <sigmavirus24> thanks cjwatson!
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2015-11-20-#kubuntu
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[00:04] <Doyle> Hey. Is there a bug for the system freezing when the screen times out and locks? Also happens when ctrl+l is used.
[00:05] <Doyle> or is there a fix?
[00:13] <bprompt> well
[00:13] <bprompt> screen blacking out or locked and not coming back up from standby or sleep or whatever else, is usually a videocard driver issue
[00:14] <bprompt> you could try checking the backports repositories for some update on them, or a newer one from the videocard chipset maker, or just trying an older driver
[00:16] <excalibr> Can someone who use 15.10 please make a screenshot of the Leave section in application launcher for me?
[00:23] <excalibr> awkward silence
[00:24] * bprompt drops a pin
[00:24] <bprompt> excalibr: I run 12.04 for one :)
[00:30] <Doyle> I see you like to live dangerously
[00:31] <Doyle> that's how you get poodles
[00:50] <bprompt> dangereously? nope, runs smooth :)
[01:03] <Fanfare> Q: Where is automount gone in systemsettings?
[01:09] <bprompt> I'm on 12.04 and I don't even see it there
[01:12] <mparillo> excalibr: Settle for 16.04? http://imgur.com/1krFglR
[01:16] <excalibr> mparillo, thank you. The old icons in the launcher actually look much better than the new ones which look just like bunch of fruits salad
[01:16] <excalibr> http://i.imgur.com/ZSFXNZM.png
[01:22] <mparillo> Actually, I think I liked the Plasma 4 default theming best of all (though I still switch my cursor theme to Oxygen Yellow).
[09:45] <CalvinSetham> kde
[10:38] <jubo2> Hey y0 piippöls
[10:39] <jubo2> I've been following some instructions on how to make an USB stick that a Mac will boot but no luck
[10:39] <jubo2> I gonna install a 0.5TB disk to mi mum's old mac today and it is the perfect opportunity to install Kubuntu by side
[10:39] <jubo2> if someone has instructions that are known to work it'd be much appreciated
[11:19] <acidz1010> hi guys
[11:51] <Captain_Haddock> The systray system update indicator has a red/white cross in it. Does this mean that there are no updates available?
[11:51] <Captain_Haddock> (Even though my system is up to date, clicking the icon shows me 9 updates available.)
[11:52] <hateball> It means that muon-updater is not very awesome
[11:53] <Captain_Haddock> :)
[11:54] <Captain_Haddock> I also now have two audio player icons in my systray. Clementine and a media player icon both reporting the same thing :|
[11:55] <hateball> you could hide one
[11:57] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: I could. But it seems so pointless. Does Amarok not display a tray icon now or something?
[11:57] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[11:57] <Captain_Haddock> (pointless to have one, I meean)
[11:57] <Captain_Haddock> 'afternoon lordievader
[11:57] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: I do not know, I do not use a desktop music player
[11:58] <lordievader> Hey Captain_Haddock
[11:58] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: k
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:01] <Captain_Haddock> hiya BluesKaj
[12:01] <Captain_Haddock> Anyhow, I'm happy to see that activities/desktops now support individual wallpapers and such.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> hi Captain_Haddock
[12:01] <Captain_Haddock> Any idea what else I can customise per activity/desktop?
[12:02] <Captain_Haddock> I would ideally like to change the appearance of each desktop's taskbar so I know for sure which desktop I am on.
[12:02] <hateball> you could put a sticky note with a comment/number on each desktop
[12:02] <hateball> tho that wouldnt work so great if you fullscreen things I guess
[12:03] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: I won't see that until I minimise the application. (Anyway, I already have wallpapers specific to each desktop)
[12:03] <Captain_Haddock> yeah
[12:03] <Captain_Haddock> Adding widgets to the taskbar appears to be common to all desktops.
[12:03] <hateball> isnt there a plasmoid for desktop/activity switching ?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> I tried activities, but it's too clunky for my taste, still prefer the pager/VDs even tho the wallpapers are the same
[12:03] <hateball> that one can add to the tray
[12:04] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: In 14.10, it was really tiny. But lemme try that again.
[12:07] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: Wee. There's an Activities "Bar" widget now, which is like a set of tab to move between activities.
[12:08] <Captain_Haddock> While it's really long now as the names for my activities are long, I'm happy to use abbreviations and shorten the length of the bar.
[12:08] <Captain_Haddock> Cheers :)
[12:08] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: I have the two of them linked. Activies and desktops.
[12:10] <Captain_Haddock> Single letter activity names work great!
[12:12] <Captain_Haddock> OK, now the only really annoying issue remaining post-upgrade is systray icons for Wine apps.
[12:12] <Captain_Haddock> For which I can apparently do nothing.
[12:13] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: :)
[12:13] <hateball> I thought there was some manner of workaround for that, the icon thing
[12:14] <hateball> I am unaffected in my usage, so I havent read into it
[12:14] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: For the Skype icon, there's a 32-bit package that fixes it.
[12:14] <hateball> I use a browser, a terminal, and steam. That's about it
[12:14] <BluesKaj> hmm konversation segfaulted
[12:15] <Captain_Haddock> For Wine, apparently I have to wait. Someone mentioned an elaborate workaround for it, but I gave up. I'll wait.
[12:15] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Primary wine app usage for me is mirc :)
[12:15] * Captain_Haddock gave up on Konversation (and Quassel).
[12:16] <BluesKaj> not interested in mirc, Captain_Haddock , I'm testing 16.04
[12:16] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: :) Do you use Yakuake?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> when mirc gets ported to linux then I might try it
[12:17] <BluesKaj> yes yakuake is my main terminal
[12:17] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: Nope, just a regular konsole
[12:17] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:18] <hateball> I prefer many terminals over a single tabbed one so I prefer it over yakuake
[12:18] <hateball> and I switch around the things using krunner
[12:18] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Cool. I would prefer the same, but Konversation and Quassel have too many niggles.
[12:18] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: aha
[12:19] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: But most specifically, their notification/highlight features simply don't do what I want done.
[12:19] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: I asked about Yakuake since I thought that gamers might be partial to it :)
[12:20] <BluesKaj> highlight features that i need work well on konverstaion
[12:20] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: Oh :) well I mostly use terminal stuff for work. at home a single terminal does what little I need done, run irssi etc
[12:20] <Captain_Haddock> :)
[12:20] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Cool
[12:21] <Captain_Haddock> What's going to be new in 16.04?
[12:21] * Captain_Haddock is going to upgrade to it when it comes out and stick with it for 2 years :|
[12:21] <BluesKaj> not much so far
[12:22] <hateball> I think you might be able to run all of plasma on wayland by then, with some luck and such
[12:22] <hateball> so that is pretty exciting !
[12:22] <BluesKaj> it's actually worse after today's upgrades
[12:22] <lordievader> UDC has ended, has it not?
[12:22] <lordievader> Err, UDS.
[12:23] <BluesKaj> which UDS ?
[12:24] <Captain_Haddock> Is a Wayland developer called a Waylander?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> nope waylandev
[12:25] <BluesKaj> ;-)
[12:25] <lordievader> The one about 16.04? UDS = Ubuntu Developer Summit, conference about the future of Ubuntu. And thus in particular what needs to happen to 16.04
[12:26] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj :)
[12:27] <lordievader> Oh, it is a UOS nowadays. Which was November 5th till the 8th.
[12:27] <BluesKaj> well, it's definitely going to be a LTS so far
[12:29] <BluesKaj> whether there's going to be a 16.10 in Kubuntu's future remains to be seen
[12:29] <StevenR_> greetings! i'm somewhat a linux newb. is there a way to make kubuntu 14.04 lts look like (the pics of) 15.10?
[12:30] <StevenR_> or would it be easier to just reinstall and start with 15.10?
[12:30] <StevenR_> or upgrade?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> install 15.10
[12:31] <Captain_Haddock> I'm not sure if you can upgrade directly to 15.10. You might have to go through 14.10 and 15.04.
[12:31] * Captain_Haddock recently upgraded from 14.10.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> StevenR_, do you have separate / and /home partitions?
[12:32] <StevenR_> i believe they are seperate
[12:32] <StevenR_> is that default?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> no
[12:32] <StevenR_> oh...
[12:33] <StevenR_> probably are the same then
[12:33] <Captain_Haddock> StevenR_: Anyhow, if you wait a few more months you'll be able to upgrade directly to 16.04.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> then a data backup and aclena install is your best bet
[12:33] <Captain_Haddock> Else you need to go through three upgrades :|
[12:33] <BluesKaj> a clean install even
[12:33] <StevenR_> ok. thanks
[12:34] <StevenR_> i'll probably install 15.10 fresh
[12:34] <StevenR_> probably easier for me
[12:34] <hateball> StevenR_: If you're in a rush. Otherwise 16.04 will be more polished
[12:34] <StevenR_> i'm not patient
[12:34] <Captain_Haddock> lol
[12:34] <hateball> Well then :P
[12:34] <Captain_Haddock> BTW, wasn't there a partition manager applet in System Settings at some point?
[12:35] <StevenR_> got two linux partitions at the moment. i'll keep the lts kubuntu and install over ubuntu 15.10
[12:36] <Captain_Haddock> Or a mount point manager?
[12:36] <Captain_Haddock> StevenR_: Yeah, screw ubuntu :)
[12:37] <BluesKaj> you could just install kubuntu-desktop to your ubuntu install and choose your desktop at login
[12:37] <hateball> ^
[12:38] <Captain_Haddock> BluesKaj: Fresh install over ubuntu.
[12:39] <StevenR_> how likely will installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu lead to 'issues'?
[12:40] <StevenR_> well nevermind i don't want to have to choose at login. i like autologin
[12:40] <BluesKaj> StevenR_, that kubuntu-desktop install suggestion was directed to you
[12:40] <Captain_Haddock> He'll still have to upgrade to 15.10 though, right?
[12:40] <StevenR_> i have a 15.10 ubuntu install
[12:40] <BluesKaj> well you have several options
[12:41] <Captain_Haddock> Aha!
[12:41] <hateball> StevenR_: You can still have autologin tho, just need to configure it in the login manager
[12:41] <hateball> It doesnt have to be done at install-time
[12:42] <StevenR_> probably easier than installing all my software again... gonna give it a go. at the login manager meaning from inside kde? or at the login screen?
[12:43] <hateball> StevenR_: You will be able to edit sddm settings once logged in
[12:43] <hateball> (or in config files if one wants)
[12:43] <StevenR_> so there's a way with GUI?
[12:44] <hateball> iirc yes, am not on 15.10/sddm right now
[12:55] <StevenR_> another thing... i have a onboard intel 3000 something i think gpu in this laptop. there appears to be some sort of 'glitch' with kubuntu 14.04 that i never noticed on ubuntu 15.10
[12:55] <StevenR_> tearing maybe it's called
[12:55] <StevenR_> like stuff takes a minute to 'update'...
[12:56] <StevenR_> might only be the chromium now that i think about it
[12:56] <StevenR_> was using vivaldi on ubuntu though and it's based on the same thing?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> i switched to chrome , it's embedded flash version is much better
[12:57] <StevenR_> i see
[12:57] <StevenR_> have to add a repo?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> still saves/syncs all your bookmarks /settings etc from chromium
[12:58] <StevenR_> (y)
[12:58] <StevenR_> cool maybe i'll give that a go
[12:58] <BluesKaj> no just download the deb file from chrome's site and run the installer
[12:59] <StevenR_> k. then it updates itself?
[12:59] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:00] <BluesKaj> it will add the ppa to to your sources.list.d file automatically
[13:00] <StevenR_> sweet
[13:00] <BluesKaj> runs great
[13:00] <hateball> StevenR_: there is a bug with vsync + intel iirc. also make sure you set opengl renderer to 3.1 instead of 2.0
[13:00] <hateball> BluesKaj: if you use pepperflashplugin-nonfree it *is* chrome, in chromium
[13:01] <StevenR_> hateball how might i do that?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> hateball, no it's not the same
[13:01] <StevenR_> i never installed pepperflash yet on kubuntu
[13:01] <hateball> all it does is pull down chromes deb, rip out the .so file and then add to chromiums script
[13:01] <StevenR_> but i'm installing chrome
[13:01] <BluesKaj> it's not the pepperflash on chrome at all
[13:01] <hateball> ..
[13:02] <StevenR_> how do i set opengl render to 3.1 instead of 2.0
[13:02] <StevenR_> ?
[13:02] <hateball> StevenR_: open krunner, search for compositing
[13:02] <hateball> should get you the proper menu
[13:03] <StevenR_> got it thanks :)
[13:04] <StevenR_> so for kubuntu 14.04 to look like 15.10 there's more needed than just a theme? like a new version of kde or plasma or something like that?
[13:04] <hateball> Correct
[13:05] <StevenR_> ok
[13:05] <hateball> 14.04 is KDE 4.x, 15.10 is KDE Plasma 5.x
[13:05] <StevenR_> 15.10 looks nice :)
[13:06] <StevenR_> i tried some new themes on 14.04 but not very impressed tbh
[13:07] <StevenR_> thanks for all the help. going to reboot into ubuntu and install kubuntu desktop. mgiht be back soon ;)
[13:08] <BluesKaj> I still prefer kde4/plasma4 personally .it has more features that plasma 5 has dropped
[13:19] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: yes, maybe. But I bet that plasma5 + wayland will be way smother an experience than X + KDE4
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, yeah , but wayland seems to be taking it's time getting packaged and setup upstream ..we've been anticipating it for a few releases, but nothing seems definite yet
[13:24] <yofel> well, wayland session login made it into 5.5 this week, so you should be able to have a wayland session that you can use in the beta.
[13:24] <yofel> Still lots of features missing I beilve, but it should be somewhat usable
[13:25] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Well - using it on my ubuntu phone if I'm correct (Not with plasma though).
[13:25] <Smurphy> or is it tha fork ?
[13:25] <Smurphy> what was the name agian ?
[13:25] <yofel> ubuntu phone uses Mir, unless something changed
[13:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, ubuntu doesn't use plasma
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ubuntu phones aren't available here
[13:40] <StevenR_> installing kubuntu desktop on ubuntu 15.10... almost done downloading packages... it asks: default display manager: lightdm or sddm? if i want to auto boot into kde what do i select?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> yofel, i'm stiil on 5.4.2/16.10 , probly be a while til we see 5.5 here I imagine, unless it's in staging or some such
[13:40] <BluesKaj> sddm
[13:41] <StevenR_> thx
[13:44] <StevenR_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+15.10.20150723-0ubuntu1 E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kaccounts-providers_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/providers/google.provider', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+15
[13:46] <StevenR_> i've not used telepathy yet nor do i plan to so no big deal i guess?
[13:46] <StevenR_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-accounts-kcm/+bug/1490659
[13:46] <StevenR_> says something there about crash after boot
[13:46] <BluesKaj> I usually just remove telepathy ..no need
[13:47] <StevenR_> ok thanks
[13:47] <Smurphy> yeah, it's Mir they use. And it works quite nicely.
[13:48] <StevenR_> so i just log out then back in?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> not sure, a reboot should work for sure
[13:51] <StevenR_> software updater inside unity is saying the package system is broken
[13:53] <StevenR_> nvm recommends disabling third party repos
[13:53] <StevenR_> trying htat
[13:53] <BluesKaj> run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, ignore that updater gui
[13:53] <StevenR_> k doing that
[13:54] <StevenR_> 1 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them. Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde-telepathy-minimal : Depends: kde-config-telepathy-accounts (>= 15.04.0) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[13:55] <StevenR_> going to try rebooting i guess. i always got the kubuntu lts as a failsafe i guess
[14:01] <StevenR_> seems the switch worked :)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> StevenR_, run sudo apt-get -f install
[14:03] <StevenR_> (Reading database ... 325496 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ... Unpacking kde-config-telepathy-accounts (4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is
[14:06] <BluesKaj> StevenR_, use pastebin for those posts pls
[14:06] <StevenR_> k will do from now on
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ok try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:09] <StevenR_> http://pastebin.com/krbf6hE3
[14:11] <genii> sudo apt-get install kde-config-telepathy-accounts
[14:13] <StevenR_> http://pastebin.com/C4dEf43u
[14:15] <StevenR_> should i run: apt-get autoremove?
[14:15] <genii> StevenR_: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[14:16] <BluesKaj> yes, then try sudo apt remove telepathy
[14:17] <BluesKaj> ok , genii to the rescue StevenR_ ignore my remove above
[14:17] * genii makes more coffee
[14:17] <StevenR_> genii the command seemed to finish. BluesKaj was just about to ask if that would undo it lol
[14:18] <genii> StevenR_: Now try again the sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:19] * BluesKaj fnishes his last java for today
[14:19] <StevenR_> http://pastebin.com/p1zmYgD9
[14:19] <StevenR_> seemed to work. thank you guys
[14:20] * BluesKaj doesn't understand why telepathy isn't optional
[14:21] <BluesKaj> it shouldn't be deault IMO
[14:21] <BluesKaj> default
[14:22] <BluesKaj> same goes the PIM suite
[14:24] <genii> I feel that way about Akonadi ;)
[14:24] <BluesKaj> that sort of connected to PIM , kmail and all that junk
[14:25] <BluesKaj> kmail was great before they decided it needed a database
[14:25] <BluesKaj> mucked it up
[14:58] <yuriy> Hello
[14:58] <yuriy> i want to reinstall my kubuntu from scratch
[14:58] <yuriy> i tried to run install from live CD, but it fails start
[14:59] <yuriy> it shows something like job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces.
[14:59] <yuriy> what can i do to run process?
[15:00] <yuriy> pls help
[15:22] <BluesKaj> yuriy, so your md5sum wasn't good, i saw your post in #ubuntu
[15:36] <Simonious> nilfs2 vs f2fs anybody have any experience? f2fs is looking slightly better.. (for storing polled data on a flash drive on a raspi)
[15:38] <sandroandrade> Hi, any chance for having the Qt5-based version of drumstick packaged for Kubuntu ?
[17:01] <havoc86> good evening
[17:02] <havoc86> I upgraded to wily and kwallet doesn't work anymore :(
[17:02] <havoc86> anybody can help?
[17:09] <havoc86> I'm unable to access the old wallet and unable to create a new one
[17:44] <Riste> Hello everyone!
[17:49] <Riste> I need some help with browsers, I'm runing a kubuntu on a 8gig ram and Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2430M CPU @ 2.40GHz yet chromium eats all of the cpu power, why is this happening
[17:50] <Riste> this configuration should run chromium or mozila without any problems
[17:50] <Riste> p.s. I have all the latests updates installed and im running 5.10
[17:53] <soee_> Riste: maybe ou have some extension in Chromium tak causes this ?
[17:54] <Riste> I doubt that, I don't have any extensions in firefox yet same thing happens while chrome is killed
[17:54] <Riste> chromium*
[18:03] <BluesKaj> Riste, I use chrome instead, it runs much better on my system
[18:03] <Riste> Hello again BluesKaj :D, i guess ill give it a try, yesterday their linux download link was dead so i'll try again today
[18:07] <lordievader> Riste: Could you give a sample of the output of 'vmstat 1' (it'll run indefinetly)
[18:09] <Riste> Hello lordievader: procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ------cpu----- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa st 3 0 0 2569456 86684 2151280 0 0 0 0 3393 10075 75 8 18 0 0 10 0 0 2561488 86684 2159424 0 0 0 0 4003 11699 81 10 9 0 0 8 0 0 2548556 86684 2166084 0 0 4 0 3932 10330 83 12 6 0 0 9 0
[18:09] <BluesKaj> Riste, https://www.google.ca/chrome/browser/desktop/
[18:10] <Riste> Thank you BluesKaj already installed it xD seems to be running today :D
[18:11] <lordievader> Riste: Err, could you pastebin that?
[18:11] <genii> !pastebin | Riste
[18:12] <Riste> !pastebin procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ------cpu----- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa st 3 0 0 2569456 86684 2151280 0 0 0 0 3393 10075 75 8 18 0 0 10 0 0 2561488 86684 2159424 0 0 0 0 4003 11699 81 10 9 0 0 8 0 0 2548556 86684 2166084 0 0 4 0 3932 10330 83 12 6 0 0 9 0 0 2
[18:12] <Riste> wait how does this work xD
[18:12] <Riste> ah figured it out
[18:13] <lordievader> Riste: You go to http://paste.kde.org upload your paste there and give us the link to the paste.
[18:13] <Riste> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13370359/
[18:13] <lordievader> Hmm, lots of user time...
[18:14] <lordievader> Riste: What does the chrome task manager tell you?
[18:16] <Riste> Lordievader http://imgur.com/KfmxHEx
[18:17] <lordievader> I see a plugin taking 148% cpu, is there a flash video playing by any chance?
[18:18] <Riste> yeah, quite a few youtube, and this miniclip game
[18:18] <lordievader> Ah, two youtube tabs. Try closing all things flash and see if it goes down.
[18:18] <Riste> however that still shouldn't overload the cpu
[18:19] <Riste> will try that
[18:19] <genii> !pastebin testing bot edit
[18:20] <genii> !pastebin
[18:21] <lordievader> genii: Nice edit :)
[18:27] <Riste> Hello, sorry for the delay lordievader: http://imgur.com/2eJ8Wyb this is with just fb running and a helpdesk tab
[18:28] <lordievader> Riste: As you can see, there is quite a difference. The numbers are a lot lower. Do you see the same in top (or any other cpu monitor)?
[18:29] <Riste> Yeah, that is correct, however the spikes are still persistent
[18:29] <Riste> And the browser still feels sluggish
[18:30] <Riste> My point is this configuration should be able to run far more than just few youtube tabs and a flash game
[18:30] <lordievader> Hmm, agreed. Do other browsers have the same problem?
[18:31] <Riste> Tried Firefox for a short period of time and it was the same case this is really weird o.o
[18:31] <lordievader> Hmm, that is rather odd.
[18:31] <lordievader> Riste: What graphics card and driver do you use?
[18:32] <Riste> before the update i was able to watch movies and after a certain update i think everything started to slowly screw up
[18:32] <Riste> when going to fullscreen fps dropped
[18:32] <Riste> lordivader: give me a sec to check xD
[18:33] <Riste> Lordivader: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:34] <lordievader> Riste: Could you give the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A 3 VGA'?
[18:35] <EvilRoey> hi
[18:35] <EvilRoey> how do I search for a hex value in a file?
[18:35] <Riste> lordievader: was just doing that xD
[18:35] <EvilRoey> does Kate have a hex viewer?
[18:35] <Riste> https://paste.kde.org/pfl5vlyas
[18:35] <Riste> lordivader: https://paste.kde.org/pfl5vlyas
[18:36] <sithlord48> EvilRoey: install oktata open file (its a hex editor)
[18:36] <sithlord48> EvilRoey: ** okteta **
[18:36] <BluesKaj> Riste, make sure you're using compositor OpenGL 3.1 not 2.0 setting
[18:37] <EvilRoey> ahhhhhh oktata, right
[18:37] <EvilRoey> thanks
[18:37] <EvilRoey> sithlord48: thanks!
[18:37] <sithlord48> EvilRoey: ur welcome
[18:38] <lordievader> Riste: You could use tab to autocomplete my nick ;)
[18:38] <Riste> @BluesKaj hmm it was set to OpenGL 2.0
[18:38] <Riste> lordievader: damn thats handy ahhaha, new to all this sorry xD
[18:38] <lordievader> Riste: What is the output of 'cat /proc/cmdline'?
[18:39] <Riste> lordievader: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-18-generic root=UUID=4dc1d5b3-e410-4dc3-a2a8-c1a76c8e5c29 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[18:39] <lordievader> Right, nothing wrong there.
[18:40] <Riste> btw, just switched to opengl 3.1
[18:40] <Riste> lordievader: btw, i want to thank you for the time and that you're trying to help me x)
[18:41] <lordievader> Riste: No problem ;)
[18:42] <lordievader> Riste: Do html5 videos show the same problem?
[18:42] <Riste> lordievader: its wei'rd that youtube videos don't lag, however i don't think i've notticed any problems with that, ill go and check all the video type players
[18:44] <lordievader> Actually that might be a clue, I think youtube prefers HTML5 nowadays... It might simply be flash misbehaving.
[18:45] <Riste> lordievader: ok so html5 small player sized doesn't have problems, however going to fullscreen it loses fps, this indicates gpu problems imo
[18:46] <lordievader> Hmm, it might be indeed. What resolution is your screen?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Riste, that could be a function of the internet connection, the website and other internet problems. Try a video stored on your HDD
[18:49] <Riste> lordievader: atm im running dual screen on this laptop the laptop screen resultion is 1366x768 and the other screen which has only 2gmail tabs opened is 1920x1080
[18:49] <Riste> BluesKaj: I can assure you it's not the internet however nice point, ill try downloading something now and giving it a test.
[18:49] <lordievader> Hmm, that shouldn't be a problem.
[18:50] <Riste> hmm another good clue, running it fullscreen whilst its downloaded doesnt lose fps
[18:50] <Riste> the same video i tried on the browser
[18:51] <BluesKaj> to me a direct link like a video on the hdd is the baseline then go from there
[18:52] <Riste> BluesKaj: that's what I did, I downloaded the video on the HDD played it no issues
[18:53] <Riste> this means that it might be problem with the online players on the browsers
[18:54] <Riste> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.6.1) (7u85-2.6.1-5ubuntu0.15.10.1) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.85-b03, mixed mode)
[18:57] <BluesKaj> I use the BBC video playe/flashplayer as a test it's the best player I've used over this 6mb dsl connection, it's a good test for a browser like firefox or chrome
[18:59] <BluesKaj> even my local CBC online player can't compete with the BBC
[19:00] <Riste> BluesKaj: what're you suggesting for me install a BBC extention on chromium or smth?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> nopw, just use it as a test
[19:00] <BluesKaj> nope
[19:01] <Riste> If i were to use it it would be local, and I already tested local on HDD videos don't lose frames even in fullscreen unlike in the browser
[19:01] <Riste> so im sorry but i dont understand what you're trying to suggest
[19:03] <BluesKaj> strictly for online tests of your flash plugin to elinimate the player itself as the problem
[19:03] <BluesKaj> eliminate even
[19:04] <OpenSSL> in firefox for youtube it was using the flashplayer for the longest time :<
[19:04] <OpenSSL> https://youtube.com/html5 to force the HTML5 player
[19:04] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's mostly HTML5 now afaik
[19:05] <BluesKaj> I don't youtube much tho
[19:05] <OpenSSL> I personally use Minitube where possible
[19:06] <OpenSSL> http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube (one in the repositories is outdated, I install from here and then lock the package)
[19:07] <Riste> Nope, still result even with the html5 link when going full screen
[19:07] <Riste> lol this is so weird
[19:08] <OpenSSL> Riste: when you right click does the contextmenu have "Adobe Flash 11.blahblahblah" at the bottom
[19:08] <Riste> OpenSSL: nope, its the html5 player, it goes about html5
[19:09] <OpenSSL> hmm
[19:09] <Riste> I dont think its the players themselves...
[19:17] <Riste_> Sorry guys i accidently uplugged the ethernet, anything u said i didint read xD
[22:47] <dlnx``> hello
[22:48] <dlnx``> trying to install kubuntu 15.10 on my laptop
[22:48] <dlnx``> can't get mouse or keyboard to work
[22:48] <dlnx``> they're inactive
[22:49] <dlnx``> not very much bios options to fiddle with, lenovo x1 carbon
[22:49] <dlnx``> not many*
[22:50] <dlnx``> anyone?
[22:51] <bprompt> dlnx``: sounds like it's frozen, rather than the keyboard and mouse aren't working... I run 12.04, but 15.10 should install the same way more or less, so... I don't think it's the input devices, so much that the setup is frozen or stalled for some reason
[22:52] <dlnx``> bprompt: how can I tell?
[22:52] <dlnx``> also
[22:52] <dlnx``> what can I do?
[22:52] <bprompt> a frozen system would it .... well, frozen
[22:53] <bprompt> dlnx``: retry to boot with it, disabling some options, from the Kubuntu menu at startup, usually you can disable some things through the F6 key or f5
[22:57] <dlnx``> k, thanks
[22:58] <Gavin_> Hello
[22:58] <bprompt> allo
[23:00] <Gavin_> anyone running Kubuntu 15.10?
[23:03] <mparillo> Gavin_: I am sure many of us are here. Do you have a specific question?
[23:10] <Gavin_> I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 610 but my screen keeps blinking
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2015-11-20-#snappy
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[02:05] <liuxg> how to disable autopilot. my raspberry pi display the message like "snappy autopilot triggered a reboot to boot into an up to date system -- temprorarily disable the reboot by running 'sudo shutdown -c'" from time to time.
[08:10] <fgimenez> good morning
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day! 😃
[11:49] <happyaron> hey, I wonder which image is the latest snappy image, where can I find it?
[12:46] <olli> gm
[13:02] <kyrofa> happyaron, for which device or arch?
[13:03] <happyaron> kyrofa: for amd64, preferrable for VM. I'm not running the vivid image on edge channel, but I'm curious about whether that's latest, or there is a wily based or even x-series based one?
[13:04] <happyaron> s/not running/now running/g
[13:04] <kyrofa> happyaron, ah, so you've seen https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/#snappy-local then
[13:05] <happyaron> yep\
[13:05] <kyrofa> happyaron, I'm not sure about the x-based question-- hang out and someone more qualified will come by :)
[13:05] <happyaron> I tried to install ubuntu-snappy on an x-series chroot, but it appears missing many configurations (and the layout is not real snappy, of course)
[13:05] <happyaron> okay, :)
[13:05] <kyrofa> happyaron, but do note that you can create your own image via ubuntu-device-flash
[13:06] <happyaron> ah let me look into that, ty!
[13:06] <kyrofa> happyaron, any time!
[13:41] <mvo> jdstrand: if you have a moment, it would be great if you could approve my pending kernel/os/oem snaps, this should allow a full all-snap image to be assembled
[13:41] <mvo> jdstrand: they are pending review in the store, the update was needed to push some fixes in
[13:43] <jdstrand> mvo: hello, sure
[13:44] <jdstrand> mvo: fyi, I have a branch that can handle all these, but there will still be a manual review for these types
[13:45] <jdstrand> mvo: it'll look much like the oem feedback
[13:47] <jdstrand> mvo: done
[13:48] <asac> stgraber: i am kind off failing with something basic wrt lxd... all i want is to mount some dir in my home into the container and while the homedir: ... entry in config seems to work and mounts the dir i conifgured to /extra ... i cant seem to find a reasonable way to make that writable by the lxc uid etc.
[13:48] <jdstrand> mvo: I imagine there needs to be some conversation on this wrt to review tools. ie, imo you shouldn't be inhibited by the tools for these, but others should. eg, a sort of 'core-dev' group rights thing in the store
[13:48] <asac> and the id_map things i tried in config didnt work at all
[13:49] <asac> stgraber: think i ended up trying to do something https://github.com/lxc/lxd/issues/579 ... but not sure if thats the right way to just conveniently get a directory int he container that i can use ther
[13:49] <mvo> jdstrand: \o/
[13:49] <jdstrand> mvo: actually, I imagine it has nothing to do with the tools themselves. the store would simply ignore this one check if it came from this privileged group
[13:49] <mvo> jdstrand: yeah, it would be nice if there would be some sort of whitelist
[13:49] <jdstrand> like we do with brand stores
[13:59] <mvo> jdstrand: so ./ubuntu-device-flash --verbose core rolling -o amd64-all-snap.img --channel edge --oem generic-amd64.mvo --developer-mode --kernel ubuntu-kernel.mvo --os ubuntu-core.mvo works now
[13:59] <mvo> jdstrand: well, with me updated u-d-f, so thanks for allwoing it into the store
[13:59] <jdstrand> nice!
[14:15] <elopio> pitti: on adt-run, why is the source tree copied with owner ubuntu:root instead of ubuntu:ubuntu ?
[14:15] <pitti> elopio: err, I don't know, is it? which backend?
[14:15] <elopio> pitti: snappy.
[14:15] <pitti> so, ssh runner?
[14:16] <elopio> pitti: yes.
[14:16] <pitti> ah, I think copying files in doesn't drop privileges, it just keeps root
[14:27] <kgunn> hey so i'm building mir in a container, targetting xenial....got to the point of snapcraft assemble....all was going well, but then suddenly bailed
[14:27] <kgunn> https://pastebin.canonical.com/144531/
[14:27] <kgunn> wondering if this is a known issue?
[14:27] <kgunn> gonna try again...
[14:28] <kgunn> oops nvmd...i was updating in the background, i think lxd was configuring
[14:29] <elopio> yes, that main.go had me puzzled.
[15:57] <mvo> jdstrand: if you could approve https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/3752/review/seq/4/ that would be awsome, bugfixes plus allows upgrade testing
[16:01] <kgunn> hey there, if i do
[16:01] <kgunn> ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --oem=generic-amd64 --channel edge
[16:02] <kgunn> is that xenial ?
[16:02] <kgunn> would assume so...
[16:04] <Chipaca> kgunn: yes
[16:04] <Chipaca> kgunn: you probably want --developer-mode also
[16:04] <kgunn> yep i do
[16:04] <kgunn> thanks
[16:04] <kgunn> Chipaca: any plans to add a query option for core images ?
[16:05] <Chipaca> kgunn: "query option"?
[16:05] <kgunn> Chipaca: so u-d-f query can be used to list channels and images for devices
[16:05] <Chipaca> ah
[16:05] <kgunn> would've thot there'd be the same for core
[16:05] <kgunn> as there is in touch
[16:05] <kgunn> consistency and all....
[16:06] <Chipaca> kgunn: you might want to chat with sergiusens
[16:06] <Chipaca> kgunn: i think i might be working on this tool soonish
[16:07] <sergiusens> kgunn, we are retiring ubuntu-device-flash for something that targets the snappy architecture better
[16:08] <kgunn> ack
[16:10] <jdstrand> mvo: done
[16:10] <mvo> jdstrand: \o/
[16:11] <sergiusens> kgunn, also, only 16.04 and all snaps support (no system image)
[16:15] <Chipaca> sergiusens: hyphens are important
[16:15] <Chipaca> :)
[16:18] <sergiusens> Chipaca, funnily or not, I removed the hyphen there before pressing enter :-)
[16:19] <Chipaca> sergiusens: the one in all-snaps, or in system-image? :-)
[16:19] <sergiusens> Chipaca, system-image, although, all-snaps should have one too ;-)
[16:19] <Chipaca> sergiusens: (you could also use quotes or caps for the same purpose, ie "all snaps", System Image)
[16:20] <Chipaca> sergiusens: namely, making clear that "all snaps" and "system image" are proper nouns
[22:43] <jerryG> Chipaca: can u answer a quick question?
[22:44] <jerryG> plz
[22:44] <jerryG> :}
[22:46] <jerryG> :{
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-za
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[05:43] <pieter2627> morning all
[05:53] <Kilos> morning pieter2627 inetpro and others
[05:53] <Kilos> we got 7mm rain last night and heavy storms
[05:53] <Kilos> weeds should be happy for a while
[05:58] <pieter2627> weeds??
[05:59] <pieter2627> Kilos: what are you growing :P
[05:59] <pieter2627> ... a green stash
[06:02] <Kilos> haha i wish
[06:02] <Kilos> kahkibos and other weeds
[06:02] <Kilos> blackjacks etc
[06:03] <Kilos> the weed you talking about actually makes a very healthy tea
[06:03] <Kilos> helps my head
[06:04] <pieter2627> haha, ok
[06:27] <mazal> Morning everyone , what does the red line and cross through the https part in this pic mean ? Site is unsafe ?
[06:27] <mazal> http://picpaste.com/bar-zdoJ1XBV.png
[07:22] <inetpro> good mornings everybody
[07:36] <TinuvaMac> mazal: click on it, and check the info. there will be a reason
[08:19] <Squirm> Morning all
[08:20] <Squirm> Has anyone here ever had freeradius to authenticate with Google Apps? So the user would try and authenticate with freeradius and freeradius would check their credentials with GApps
[08:30] <TinuvaMac> does google apps have a ldap like interface you can authenticate against?
[09:15] <mazal> TinuvaMac: If I understand this correctly : http://picpaste.com/bar3-fCDACElb.png , then the problem is defnitely at the sebsite side and not safe
[09:15] <mazal> website*
[18:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-classroom
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[08:33] * Aditya slaps czchen around a bit with a large fishbot
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.003784
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2015-11-20-#kubuntu-devel
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[11:31] <clivejo> sitter: is there a way to ignore debian-revision-should-not-be-zero lintian errors on KCI?
[11:32] <sitter> If is
[11:32] <sitter> It is
[11:33] <clivejo> can it be implemented for xenial?
[11:33] <sitter> It is
[11:35] <bshah> can someone fix kdeclarative unstable packaging..? (it included new lib: calendersomething)
[11:57] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:00] <soee_> kaos has 55.beta already http://kaosx.us/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1233 :)
[14:12] <shadeslayer> soee_: We've had it for days?
[14:12] <shadeslayer> via KCI :P
[14:13] <shadeslayer> afterall KCI builds master and master became beta yesterday-ish
[14:13] <shadeslayer> plus all of us are travelling to Munich today, so I doubt we'll see any packages before Monday
[14:24] <soee_> :(
[15:02] <BluesKaj> soee_, is 5.5 in the kubuntu-next/kde-next ppa?
[15:03] <soee_> BluesKaj: i don't know, sgclark maybe has some info
[15:04] <BluesKaj> I've been searching , but no luck so far
[15:26] <BluesKaj> soee_, I won't bother her, she's probly on her way to Munich
[17:58] <Riddell-munich> clivejo: you started bumping some stuff to 5.16 but not everything?
[18:02] <sgclark> soee_: BluesKaj: no sorry no 5.5 yet, I have been insanely busy and traveling last days.
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ok thanks sgclark, looks like it may have some interesting features
[18:04] <tsimonq2> win 40
[18:05] <tsimonq2> aww sorry
[18:18] <genii> ubottu: pastebin-#kubuntu is <reply> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:18] * genii smacks the bot
[18:21] <genii> It's changed now
[18:43] <clivejo> Riddell-munich: I bumped kdeclarive, then reeleased that nothing has been bumped :(
[18:43] <clivejo> should I revert that?
[19:17] <sgclark> clivejo: kdeclarative is tier2 or 3 and depends on everything below. It cannot be bumped like that by itself.
[19:17] <sgclark> Frameworks is best run altogether.
[19:19] <clivejo> sgclark: yes, I didnt realise until after that none of the frameworks have been done
[19:22] <sgclark> yeah it turns out I cannot do everything. debian merges was the blocker.
[19:28] <Riddell-munich> clivejo: will you revert that?
[19:30] <clivejo> there is a commit since
[19:30] <Riddell-munich> clivejo: ok I'll sort it out
[19:44] <soee_> hmm few more wrds about IP policy http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-s-ip-policy-is-vague-for-a-reason-but-matthew-garrett-says-ubuntu-is-not-free-496496.shtml
[19:51] <marco-parillo> Mark is certainly not helping the cause. Once upon a time the Trolltech license was free enough for use on Linux even though it failed the DFSG, and eventually Free Sofware won.
[19:58] <clivejo> bad connection in Munich?
[20:21] <clivejo> clif3833
[20:22] <yofel> clivejo: not bad connection, more like dinner and now we're running off in search for beer
[20:22] <clivejo> oh nice
[20:27] <clivejo> no frameworks tonight then :P
[21:45] <valorie> oh good lord, I just tried the plasma-mediacenter we have in the archive to control our new smart TV
[21:45] <valorie> we need to remove or update that piece of stuff
[21:45] <valorie> horrible: it takes over the computer screen and there is no way to get out of it
[22:59] <vpinon> hello, I'm trying to setup a PPA for Kdenlive daily builds
[23:00] <vpinon> does anyone have advice/scripts to generate packages from git snapshots?
[23:00] <vpinon> I guess at least Kubuntu-CI (Neon) people don't do everything by hand ;)
[23:02] <vpinon> (and Neon doesn't fit our needs: testers only want Kdenlive update, nothing else)
[23:14] <valorie> vpinon: probably
[23:15] <valorie> but most of our devels are in Munich, probably drunk on Munich beer by this timeofday
[23:15] <valorie> please send an email to Kubuntu-devel ML
[23:16] <clivejo> lucky sods
[23:17] <valorie> you could have gone!
[23:17] <valorie> shoulda
[23:17] <valorie> coulda
[23:18] <clivejo> I wouldnt been any use there
[23:18] <valorie> sure you would
[23:18] <valorie> learning is worthwhile
[23:33] <vpinon> valorie: thanks, I'll post there (and wish them good time):)
[23:34] <vpinon> bye for today
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-br
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[00:00] <annakamilla> rafaelsoaresbr, O disco está OK (41 °C / 106 °F) ele não fala de x setores efeituosos na entrada
[00:03] <annakamilla> rafaelsoaresbr, http://imgur.com/5M1eNCU
[00:04] <annakamilla> barna http://imgur.com/5M1eNCU
[00:05] <annakamilla> caraca
[00:09] <annakamilla> barna, vc tem ssd ?
[00:10] <annakamilla> Meson, tem ssd ?
[00:16] <barna> tenho não annakamilla to doido pra comprar um mas com o dolar nas alturas fica dificil.
[00:17] <Meson> barna
[00:17] <Meson> whois meson
[00:17] <barna> Meson, ???
[00:17] <Meson> oi
[00:17] <annakamilla> ma manja deles barna ?
[00:17] <Meson> tá ocupado?
[00:18] <barna> num entendi annakamilla
[00:18] <annakamilla> de erro de ecc, dá uma olhada neste print barna http://imgur.com/5M1eNCU
[00:18] <barna> Meson, nada D+, diga lá
[00:18] <shallwe> nossa no freenode do irc em primeiro lugar #linux e em segundo #ubuntu :)
[00:18] <Meson> sou o Boson
[00:18] <Meson> Podemos falar no privado?
[00:19] <barna> Meson, ok
[00:19] <astroo-> e no irc mundial em primeiro
[00:21] <Philosophus> ssd tem por 50 dolar aqui na blackfriday
[00:22] <barna> annakamilla, desculpa, eu num entendo absolutamente nada de SSD. :(
[00:23] <hggdh> annakamilla: de forma geral, trim é desaconselhado para SSDs de segunda linha
[00:24] <hggdh> annakamilla: primeira linha é, basicamente, Intel.
[00:24] <annakamilla> e o foda que o da minha irmã tb é ssd e está travando no windows
[00:24] <annakamilla> humm
[00:24] <hggdh> annakamilla: ainda assim, cuida da linguagem
[00:25] <annakamilla> me desculpe
[00:25] <shallwe> peguei a conversa andando no meio, mas ssd ta travando?
[00:25] <annakamilla> quer dizer que o da sandisk é segunda linha ?
[00:26] <hggdh> e não é Intel, assuma que é segunda linha
[00:26] <shallwe> pergunta, no HD se tem badblock ou algo os programas consegue separar isso, no SSD acho que não tem isso né? estragou foi
[00:26] <hggdh> s/^e/s&/
[00:26] <annakamilla> shallwe o meu até que tá funcionando bem, o problema é que tem 4 bad blocks
[00:27] <hggdh> SSDs deveriam, automagicamente, isolar areas ruims.
[00:27] <shallwe> a bom
[00:27] <hggdh> annakamilla: se os bad blocks não estão a incomodar, esqueça-os. Outra opção é fsck
[00:27] <annakamilla> e cada dia aumenta um, to achando que é o trim.
[00:29] <annakamilla> hggdh o meu travou só uma vez, desinstalei os drivers de video e deixei ó o da intel.
[00:29] <annakamilla> até agora sem problema algum
[00:30] <hggdh> annakamilla: os meus são Crucial, ambos (no laptop-
[00:32] <annakamilla> hggdh deixei a conf padrão do ubuntu que ativa o trim semanalmente, nem ele pode ?
[00:33] <Meson> hi
[00:44] <hggdh> annakamilla: um vez por semana está bom
[00:48] <annakamilla> sim dai eu acho que ele vai reciclar
[00:48] <annakamilla> isso daqui
[01:05] <annakamilla> hggdh devo ativar apm e cache de leitura e escrita ?
[01:17] <xGrind> annakamilla, boa noite. problema com hd?
[01:18] <annakamilla> xGrind, ssd
[01:19] <xGrind> nem sabia que ssd tinha problema com badblock. tão caro e ainda tem isso?
[01:21] <annakamilla> xGrind, http://pastebin.com/E6rB6z9p
[01:22] <annakamilla> hggdh, http://pastebin.com/E6rB6z9p
[01:24] <xGrind> annakamilla, tem um programa que usei no windows, que mostrava a saude do HD. meu HD estava com 26% de saude kkk.
[01:27] <annakamilla> mas xGrind não devo me preocupar muito né ?
[01:29] <annakamilla> pq o meu ssd tá rápido, não tá apagando dados e parece que não há erros nos testes, só no longo que eu abortei.
[01:29] <xGrind> annakamilla, depende. se ficar dando problema, melhor fazer backup e arrumar outro. o meu foi piorando e começou a travar e reiniciar o pc do nada. tinha hora que não era reconhecido na bios e eu tinha q desligar e ligar de novo
[01:30] <xGrind> comprei outro hd e agora esta normal
[01:49] <annakamilla> o duro xGrind que este é o meu eguno hd
[01:49] <annakamilla> segundo
[01:49] <xGrind> annakamilla, o loco. qnto tempo tem esse hd?
[01:49] <annakamilla> tem alguns dias
[01:50] <Philosophus> lol
[01:50] <xGrind> o meu ficou ruim por causa de um estabilizador estragado que desligava ou reiniciava o pc do nada qndo eu ligava o ventilador no meu quarto. isso detonou o hd aos poucos
[01:50] <xGrind> alguns dias e ja ta assim? o.O
[01:50] <Philosophus> nunca tive problemas de HD assim
[01:51] <annakamilla> o primeiro era o original do note, encheu de bad block até que um dia nem iniciou mais.
[01:56] <xGrind> annakamilla, esse hd com problema é de notebook?
[01:56] <annakamilla> sim
[02:17] <annakamilla> acho que tá faltando uma flag no fstab
[02:17] <annakamilla> noatime
[02:24] <sdfdsfsfd> Boa noite
[02:25] <astroo-> ola
[02:25] <sdfdsfsfd> Estou tendo problemas com o Ubuntu 14.04 no meu notebook. Ele é muito lento para abrir programas. Eu poderia instalar o Ubuntu 12.04 e ter todas as atualizações de seguranças e um sistema estável para trabalhar ?
[02:25] <astroo-> diz que cpu e
[02:26] <sdfdsfsfd> Pois, quando eu usava o Ubuntu 12.04 funcionava perfeitamente, mais depois que atualizei para o 14.04, tenho problemas de lentidão
[02:26] <sdfdsfsfd> astroo-: oi , tudo bem ? É 2.7 giga de ram e intel core i3
[02:26] <astroo-> tudo e tu?
[02:27] <astroo-> chip video?
[02:27] <sdfdsfsfd> beleza astroo- é Intel® Ironlake Mobile
[02:30] <astroo-> ve o privado e e 1 bug
[02:30] <sdfdsfsfd> astroo-: não entendi
[02:31] <sdfdsfsfd> astroo-: outro problema que eu tenho é o chrome, posso abrir no máximo 4 abas, mais do q isso ele trava todo
[02:31] <astroo-> ve a janela do teu privado em conversa
[02:31] <astroo-> ok
[02:32] <astroo-> e bug do chip video intel
[02:32] <sdfdsfsfd> ah sim, eu vi
[02:33] <sdfdsfsfd> astroo-: poxa, não é a configuração do hardware ?
[02:34] <sdfdsfsfd> ou seja, não é pouco para o ubuntu 14.04
[02:35] <MerliM> sdfdsfsfd, a maquina deveria rodar suave
[02:35] <MerliM> unity
[02:36] <sdfdsfsfd> MerliM: hm..
[02:36] <MerliM> fez uma instalacao limpa ou upgrade
[02:36] <MerliM> ja volto fumar
[02:37] <sdfdsfsfd> MerliM: Conforme o astroo- disse ser um bug, como eu posso resolver o problema ? Há algo que eu possa fazer ? Lembrando que sempre mantenho o sistema atualizado com o upgrade dist-upgrade
[02:37] <sdfdsfsfd> :S
[02:37] <MerliM> se for um bug e tiver sido marcado como solved no bugfix pode
[02:37] <MerliM> resta saber que bug
[02:37] <MerliM> deve ser resquicio do upgrade
[02:38] <sdfdsfsfd> resquicio ?
[02:38] <MerliM> ja tentou limpar caches temporarios
[02:38] <MerliM> essas coisa
[02:38] <MerliM> coisas
[02:38] <MerliM> algo no upgrade config antiga conflitando com algo
[02:39] <MerliM> sei la 12.04 usava ja unity
[02:39] <MerliM> ja rodou um TOP pra ve como ta o consumo de recursos
[02:39] <MerliM> geralmente ele te indica o provavel causador
[02:39] <MerliM> terminal -> top
[02:39] <MerliM> e monitora
[02:40] <sdfdsfsfd> chrome :O
[02:41] <sdfdsfsfd> Mas como eu posso resolver isso ? Atualizar o Ubuntu para a próxima versão talvez resolveria ? Ou voltar para o 12.04 ?
[02:42] <astroo-> tenta o lubuntu
[02:43] <astroo-> faz 1 teste com ele
[02:43] <sdfdsfsfd> Me acostumei muito com o Unity, sem falar que ele se adapta bem com dual monitor, pois uso um monitor com o notebook
[02:49] <sdfdsfsfd> astroo-: Se eu instalar o Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[02:49] <sdfdsfsfd> ops 15.10
[02:49] <astroo-> testa primeiro
[02:50] <sdfdsfsfd> astroo-: Mais ele é seguro ?
[02:51] <astroo-> mais nao sei
[02:51] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, A melhor change de resolver um problema conhecido em uma versão do Ubuntu é instalando/atualizando para a mais recente.
[02:51] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut ? Nossa... você é icone!
[02:52] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut, me deu nostalgia aqui agora ao ler seu nick :(
[02:52] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Essa juventude aqui não sabe quem eu sou, então, fico 99% do tempo icógnito aqui :P
[02:53] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut: sim, infelizmente muitos não passaram o que passamos com o verdadeiro irc
[02:54] <sdfdsfsfd> Sinto tanta falta dessa época, foi a melhor epoca da minha vida na internet
[02:54] <sdfdsfsfd> muito legal ler seu nick aqui
[02:56] <sdfdsfsfd> Muito legal mesmo... Já se passaram 7 anos
[02:56] <sdfdsfsfd> mais continuando...
[02:56] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut: É seguro usar o Ubuntu 15.10 ? Eu digo isso pq ele não é LTS
[02:57] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Por que seria inseguro? De onde você tirou a ideia que versões não-LTS são inseguras?
[02:58] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut: bom, não-lts não é seguro quando lts... estou errado ? :S
[02:59] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Errado
[02:59] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, LTS significa que por mais tempo os pacotes sofrerão atualizações voltadas a segurança.
[02:59] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Se você for instalar Ubuntu num sistema que é difícil para você atualizar (ex.: aqueles painéis de voo em aeroporto, algo que rode num navio, em um lugar sem internet ou um servidor que um reboot seja muito oneroso)
[03:00] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Nesses locais você instala LTS pois sem dar reboot, sem ter que dar upgrade no sistema e verificar as configurações para os novos softwares, você continuará recebendo os updates
[03:00] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Numa versão não-LTS, esse período é de 1 ano apenas (se não me falha a memória).
[03:01] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Então após um ano, os repositórios pararão de ter atualizações. Mesmo que surja um bug grave de segurança, você não receberá a atualização.
[03:01] <al4nc4ds> o.O Site fora do ar - http://ubuntu-br.org/
[03:01] <sdfdsfsfd> al4nc4ds: vc tbm ? :S
[03:01] <sdfdsfsfd> hehe
[03:01] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Se tratando de um desktop, um notebook, sério mesmo que você pretende ficar 1 ano inteiro sem atualizar o sistema?
[03:02] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Vejo o contrário: as pessoas até gostam de ver os softwares novos, os recursos novos.
[03:02] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Nesse sentido, LTS tem absolutamente ganho nenhum, só prejuízo.
[03:03] <al4nc4ds> rolling release na veia o.O
[03:04] <MerliM> al4nc4ds, concordoo
[03:04] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut: mais não seria recomendado atualizar o sistema ?
[03:05] <sdfdsfsfd> Desculpa..
[03:05] <sdfdsfsfd> mas estou um pouco confuso com tudo isso agora, KurtKraut
[03:06] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Vamos resumir: você vai instalar Ubuntu num lugar que se você der reboot, vai perder milhares de reais ou teria que pegar um avião para ir atualizar e voltar?
[03:06] <al4nc4ds> Comece aqui o.O ---> http://ubuntu-br.org/comece
[03:07] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Se a resposta for sim, use LTS. Caso contrário, não, use sempre a versão mais recente.
[03:07] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Versão não-LTS não tem relação com segurança, com estabilidade. Não é uma versão beta. É uma versão estável.
[03:08] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Consegui esclarecer?
[03:10] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut: mais ou menos, desculpe a minha ignorancia, reboot ?
[03:10] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Reboot = reiniciar o computador
[03:10] <hggdh> adicionalmente, as LTSs agora sofrem updates de versão para o X e kernel (pelo menos).
[03:11] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut: Sim, claro, vai perder as atualizações ?
[03:12] <Xconfig> E ae
[03:12] <Xconfig> qualé
[03:12] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Não, há nenhuma perda de atualizações. O que fez download e instalou é seu, ninguém vai te tirar :P
[03:12] <Relogio_Podre> Caras
[03:12] <Relogio_Podre> alguem ja instalou o patch do kernel?
[03:12] <al4nc4ds> alguem ja se aventurou nessa coisa bizarra ?
[03:12] <al4nc4ds> http://www.edivaldobrito.com.br/visual-studio-code-no-ubuntu/
[03:14] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut: O não-lts os repositorios após 1 não sofre atualização, certo ? Ou seja, o sistema não fica atualizado após esse periodo, já o lts eu consigo mandar o sistema atualizado por um bom tempo.
[03:14] <sdfdsfsfd> *manter*
[03:14] <hggdh> sdfdsfsfd: 9 meses. Mas é só fazer um upgrade após a liberação da nova versão do Ubuntu
[03:15] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Sim. Mas estamos no Ubuntu 15.10, ou seja, lançado no mês 10 de 2015. Daqui há 1 ano já terão lançado o Ubuntu 16.04 e o 16.10. Sério mesmo que você tem planos de ver duas versões serem lançadas do Ubuntu e não fazer o upgrade para elas?
[03:15] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Ficar sem as novidades todas, as melhorias todas?
[03:15] <al4nc4ds> https://code.visualstudio.com/#alt-downloads
[03:15] <al4nc4ds> lol
[03:15] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Versões do Ubuntu são lançadas semestralmente, todo mês 04 e mês 10 do ano.
[03:16] <Relogio_Podre> estou com o patch do mainline 4.3
[03:16] <Relogio_Podre> mas estou sem o menuconfig
[03:16] <al4nc4ds> KurtKraut, mano tu é guerreiro lol
[03:16] <sdfdsfsfd> KurtKraut: Tudo bem, mas vou conseguir mandar o meu sistema estável e seguro, pois qualquer bug, eu tenho atualização para ela. Já o não-lts não e possivel após 1 ano.
[03:16] <hggdh> al4nc4ds: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode
[03:17] <sdfdsfsfd> *manter*
[03:17] <al4nc4ds> hggdh, (;
[03:17] <KurtKraut> al4nc4ds, Mais de 20 anos de IRC, calejado já :
[03:17] <KurtKraut> :P
[03:17] <hggdh> sdfdsfsfd: novamente: versões não LTS são suportadas for 9 meses.
[03:18] <al4nc4ds> astroo-, nauta!
[03:18] <Philosophus> boa noite sdfdsfsfd, estava com o mesmo problema que vc
[03:19] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, Inverta a sua lógica: não-LTS é bom, é seguro, é estável.
[03:19] <Philosophus> mas depois de instalar novamente e fazer o update o problema foi sanado
[03:19] <astroo-> al4nc4ds nao percebi
[03:19] <al4nc4ds> mundo da lua
[03:19] <KurtKraut> sdfdsfsfd, 'Não me interessa se ela é coroa, panela velha é que faz comida boa' é ideia do Sérgio Reis apenas. No Ubuntu tem disso não.
[03:19] <sdfdsfsfd> Philosophus: você atualizou para qual versão ?
satisfacao te encontrar por aqui
[03:24] <ghs> KurtKraut: entendi... Vou instalar o 15.10
[03:24] <ghs> Vou registrar um nick aqui na freenode e lembrar dos velhos tempos da BRASnet ;(
[03:24] <KurtKraut> ghs, :D
[03:25] <KurtKraut> Philosophus, Aloha
[03:25] <ghs> tem bons canais aqui para entrar além do #ubuntu-br ?
[03:25] <KurtKraut> ghs, ahahahha: não! hahahah
[03:25] <astroo-> depende do gosto
[03:25] <KurtKraut> ghs, E aqui é morto 90% do tempo
[03:25] <Philosophus> eu voltei agora para o irc e tmb estou a busca de canais novos
[03:25] <ghs> Philosophus: Você também era da BRASnet ?
[03:27] <Philosophus> cara meu primeiro acesso foi com net discada
[03:27] <Philosophus> na epoca entrava para aprender sobre html
[03:27] <Philosophus> caraca veio umas coisas na cabeca agora
[03:27] <Philosophus> que nostalgia
[03:29] <ghs> sim :(
[03:29] <astroo-> o irc sempre foi mais positivo que negativo ao contrario do facebook por exemplo
[03:31] <hggdh> Relogio_Podre: mais fácil usar um pacote pronto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds
[03:55] <ghs> KurtKraut: obrigado pelo esclarecimento (:
[03:56] <KurtKraut> ghs, You're welcome. Quero te ver feliz com o Ubuntu 15.10 :D
[04:00] <Relogio_Podre> e ae
[04:00] <Relogio_Podre> cade a galera
[04:00] <ghs> KurtKraut: eu vou instalar amanha o Ubuntu 15.10 ai eu volto aqui para dar um retorno :D
[04:00] <Relogio_Podre> ta usando ruindows ainda? ta loko
[04:00] <ghs> hehe
[04:01] <ghs> Relogio_Podre: eu ? não sei o que é ruindows, não uso isso ai há séculos
[04:04] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[04:05] <al4nc4ds> ciao
[04:05] <astroo-> ciao
[04:06] <Relogio_Podre> preciso de mescaline
[04:07] <Relogio_Podre> alguém
[04:07] <Relogio_Podre> tem mescaline
[04:13] <ghs> obrigado a todos pela ajuda
[04:18] <ghs> um abraço a todos
[04:18] <ghs> foi bom te ver KurtKraut :)
[04:18] <ghs> boa noite a todos
[04:42] <picasso_> alguém ai?
[04:43] <Philosophus> opa
[04:43] <KurtKraut> Philosophus, não é bom responder esse tipo de pergunta :P
[04:44] <picasso_> =x
[04:44] <Philosophus> to carente xD
[04:44] <picasso_> pessoal estou aqui rodando pelo wine o rosetta stone mais não sei onde jogar os arquivos de idioma dele já que não existe uma pasta compatível no wine... curte:
[04:44] <picasso_> - Windows XP: %Documents and Settings%\All Users\Application Data\Rosetta Stone\Language Training\AutoInstall
[04:44] <picasso_> - Windows 7/8/10: "C:\ProgramData\Rosetta Stone\Language Training\AutoInstall"
[04:44] <picasso_> Era para colocar ai no windows mais no wine não tem =/
[04:45] <KurtKraut> picasso_, Mas você já achou a pasta onde fica o Rosetta no Linux, certo?
[04:45] <picasso_> sim no wine sim :D
[04:45] <KurtKraut> picasso_, E se você criar as pastas que faltam?
[04:45] <MerliM> vê que sistema o wine tá simulando e criar a pasta
[04:45] <MerliM> parece que a unidade Z: é o teu home
[04:46] <picasso_> criei a pasta mais não identifica =/
[04:46] <picasso_> hum...
[04:46] <MerliM> o rosetta nao permite definir o caminho
[04:46] <picasso_> exatamente...
[04:46] <MerliM> o que é rosetta afinal ahuahua
[04:46] <picasso_> melhor programa de idioma do mundo \o/
[04:46] <MerliM> kkkkkkkkkkk
[04:46] <Philosophus> lol vai pro fisk
[04:46] <MerliM> e serve pra que mesmo
[04:47] <picasso_> aprender inglês e mais 23 idiomas...
[04:47] <picasso_> sou pobre Philosophus
[04:47] <MerliM> pq nao usar italk
[04:48] <MerliM> e afins ja viu se nao existe algo similar nativo no linux
[04:48] <picasso_> italk? é tão bom como o rosetta?
[04:48] <picasso_> Eu consegui rodar o rosetta mais tive que deletar o wine ai puff =/
[04:49] <MerliM> appdb do wine
[04:49] <MerliM> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1867
[04:49] <MerliM> falando das versoes que rolam de boa veja se a sua ta tranquilo la
[04:50] <MerliM> italk eu adoro
[04:50] <MerliM> tem outros q nao lembro nome e italk nao precisa instalar nada
[04:50] <picasso_> o programa tá rodando de boa, só não sei, onde colocar o .rsd que são os idiomas xD
[04:50] <MerliM> seleciona a lingua nativa e as que quer aprender ele te sugere amigos
[04:50] <MerliM> dai vc ensina e aprende
[04:50] <MerliM> alive
[04:51] <picasso_> hum...
[04:51] <picasso_> :o
[04:51] <Philosophus> tem no USC ?
[04:51] <MerliM> ja tentou fazer isso wine rosetta.exe ARQUIVODEIDIOMA.rsd
[04:51] <MerliM> ou o nome de executavel dele
[04:52] <picasso_> hummmmmm
[04:52] <picasso_> vejamos...
[04:55] <picasso_> nem dá certo fica pedindo cd...
[04:55] <picasso_> tem que descobrir onde colocar a pasta "Autoinstall" no rosetta pra funcionar =s
[04:55] <MerliM> e sem ele abre so chamando o exe ele executa
[04:56] <picasso_> o programa abre mais ai fica pedindo para adicionar o cd (.rsd).
[04:56] <MerliM> e se tu apontar em vez de pro cd pra um diretorio local mesmo com os rsd
[04:57] <MerliM> tipo /home/usuario/file.rsd
[04:57] <picasso_> wine roseta.exe e o diretório?
[04:57] <picasso_> vejamos, vejamos...
[04:57] <MerliM> nao
[04:57] <MerliM> abre normal o roseta
[04:57] <MerliM> vai pedir o cd
[04:58] <MerliM> deve ter um botao pra fazer sei lá ele buscar como se fosse em uma unidade
[04:58] <MerliM> ai aponta pro diretorio
[04:58] <MerliM> dentro das configuracoes do wine vc pode setar tb o diretorio que responde pelo cdrom
[04:58] <picasso_> não dá...
[04:59] <picasso_> só tem clicar em adicionar o cd como se fosse uma unidade montada, a menos que, dê, para montar tipo .iso o .rsd....
[04:59] <picasso_> hummmm
[04:59] <picasso_> pera ai
[04:59] <MerliM> picasso_, outro livemocha
[04:59] <MerliM> tao bom qnt italk
[05:00] <picasso_> hummmm
[05:00] <MerliM> picasso_, vc tem o cd
[05:00] <MerliM> ou iso
[05:00] <MerliM> do rosetta
[05:00] <Philosophus> isso que ia perguntar agora
[05:01] <picasso_> tenho os .rsd
[05:01] <picasso_> que são os arquivos de idioma.
[05:01] <MerliM> nao precisa do iso
[05:01] <MerliM> esse post
[05:01] <MerliM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=619250
[05:01] <picasso_> preciso colocar como unidade montada .rsd igual iso.
[05:01] <MerliM> ensina a montar o iso e configurar o wine para reconhecer como um cdrom
[05:01] <picasso_> hum....
[05:01] <MerliM> ai ja nao sei
[05:01] <picasso_> ai sim :D
[05:03] <MerliM> a solucao
[05:03] <MerliM> http://pastebin.com/kCBzFERn
[05:03] <MerliM> marcado inclusive como SOLVED
[05:03] <MerliM> boa sorte
[05:04] <picasso_> opaaaaa
[05:04] <picasso_> o problema é que não é .iso e sim .rsd =s mais vou tentar...
[05:04] <MerliM> cara baixa o iso
[05:04] <MerliM> mano
[05:04] <Philosophus> ou compra o cd
[05:04] <Philosophus> -.-
[05:06] <picasso_> agora não é mais em .iso e sim .rsd =x
[05:06] <MerliM> https://kat.cr/usearch/rosetta%20stone%20iso/
[05:06] <picasso_> só versões antigas é em .iso e nem sei se funfa na versão nova...
[05:08] <MerliM> picasso_, faz um teste
[05:08] <MerliM> no terminal tenta
[05:09] <picasso_> hum
[05:09] <MerliM> sudo mount auto LANGUAGE.rsd /mnt -o loop
[05:09] <MerliM> se der erro muda de auto pra iso9660 nao garanto q funcione
[05:10] <picasso_> deu altos erros e mandou um help dos comandos.
[05:11] <MerliM> esquece
[05:11] <MerliM> quer uma dica
[05:11] <MerliM> que talvez resolva
[05:12] <picasso_> como eu coloco arquivos no /mnt/virtual que criei?
[05:12] <MerliM> nao coloca ai que ta tinha que ter o ISO
[05:12] <MerliM> vc tem alguma maquina com windows
[05:12] <MerliM> ???
[05:12] <picasso_> sim...
[05:12] <picasso_> posso instalar no windows e rodar pelo wine né?
[05:13] <MerliM> sim claro
[05:13] <MerliM> instala no windows deixa ajustado como vc quer e copia as pastas exatamente como estao do windows pro linux
[05:13] <picasso_> pois é, vou fazer isso... eita jesus 3 da manhã... amanhã tô por ai, falo, obrigado pela ajuda :D \o
[05:13] <picasso_> acho que vai dá pau
[05:14] <MerliM> ja fiz isso algumas vezes com alguns app e funfou
[05:14] <picasso_> porque pede a pasta %programdata% no windows e no wine ela não existe.
[05:14] <MerliM> nao tem pq da pau
[05:14] <MerliM> cara acho q existe
[05:14] <MerliM> vc nao ta encontrando
[05:14] <picasso_> se existir só jogar os arquivos nela...
[05:14] <picasso_> porque precisa dessas pastas para instalar ou no windows xp ou 7
[05:14] <picasso_> - Windows XP: %Documents and Settings%\All Users\Application Data\Rosetta Stone\Language Training\AutoInstall
- Windows 7/8/10: "C:\ProgramData\Rosetta Stone\Language Training\AutoInstall"
[05:15] <MerliM> https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?p=90553
[05:15] <MerliM> isso é um alias pra C:\ProgramData
[05:16] <MerliM> cria
[05:16] <MerliM> pow
[05:16] <MerliM> sua pasta C:\ no wine é
[05:16] <MerliM> ~/.wine
[05:16] <MerliM> ~/.wine/drive_c/ProgramData
[05:17] <MerliM> dentro dela cria o resto e joga la
[05:17] <picasso_> não entra nessa última pasta x.x
[05:17] <MerliM> programData
[05:17] <MerliM> ???
[05:18] <picasso_> não x.x
[05:18] <MerliM> picasso_, dentro de drive_c
[05:18] <MerliM> cria ela mano do jeito que o windows faz
[05:18] <MerliM> ProgramData
[05:18] <picasso_> ah sim.
[05:18] <picasso_> :o
[05:19] <MerliM> e vai criando até chegar nao AutoInstall
[05:19] <MerliM> e joga la
[05:20] <picasso_> vejamos...
[05:21] <MerliM> indo dormir mano qlqr coisa o barna da o suporte cara manjaa
[05:21] <MerliM> hauaha
[05:21] <MerliM> :D
[05:21] <picasso_> é não deu.
[05:21] <MerliM> boa noite
[05:21] <picasso_> belezoca, boa noite o
[05:21] <picasso_> \o
[05:21] <picasso_> vou colocar no windows mesmo :]
[05:21] <MerliM> eu instalaria num windows xp
[05:22] <MerliM> o mais simples pra transplantar pro wine
[05:22] <picasso_> ^^^
[05:22] <MerliM> ou numa virtualbox com windows xo
[05:22] <MerliM> xp
[05:22] <MerliM> amannnha to aqui te ajudo se precisar
[05:22] <picasso_> :) belezoca.
[06:41] <gome> hi all
[06:41] <gome> can any one help me i am getting my internet on ubuntu browser but not in terminal
[10:40] <lynxer10x> bom dia pessoar
[10:42] <lynxer10x> como era de se eperar, ferrei o boot do intel stick... uauhauha nao boota mais o mundo cruel
[11:44] <shallwe> bom dia gente boa
[11:44] <shallwe> nem dá pra acreditar microsoft studio code ta no Github kkkk
[12:20] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[17:27] <L3ows> como faço para realizar o upgrade da versão Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS para 15.10 ?
[17:56] <Pirata-Os> alguem aqui tem apostila sobre linux
[18:00] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[19:08] <hggdh> ufff. De novo.
[19:10] <jaqent> que trampo
[19:11] <hggdh> este foi o final da limpeza de outono. O resto fica.
[19:18] <eloi_carneiro> pessoal qual pacote/software vcs usam para instalar o vnc nas maquinas da rede para dar suporte remoto?
[19:21] <eloi_carneiro> tentei o tightvncserver
[19:21] <eloi_carneiro> mas não esta dando certo
[19:21] <barna> vinagre?
[19:22] <barna> vnc é bem chato e lento.
[19:22] <barna> eloi_carneiro, pra quele role de instar o OS em varias maquinas?
[19:24] <eloi_carneiro> barna, é pra elas mesmo
[19:24] <eloi_carneiro> barna, mas o que eu quero é o server, eu quero acessar as maquinas dos usuarios
[19:24] <eloi_carneiro> estou tentando o tightvncserver
[19:24] <eloi_carneiro> mas não esta dando
[19:25] <eloi_carneiro> barna, o vinagre que vc me passou se não me engano é apenas para acesso correto?
[19:25] <barna> eloi_carneiro, controle remoto tb
[19:26] <barna> usei ele nos passados em comps sem monitor.
[19:26] <eloi_carneiro> o vinagre tem opção de server então, eu vou tentar aqui
[19:29] <wopgan> boa tarde
[19:29] <wopgan> moçada ... alguem me fala alguma coisa sobre a comunidade oficial ubuntu-br ?
[19:30] <eloi_carneiro> wopgan, o que vc quer saber?
[19:31] <wopgan> qualquer coisa relacioinada .. notei q o site tah fora do ar
[19:31] <wopgan> não encontrei nenhum motivo aparente
[19:31] <wopgan> e qnd estava no ar estava desatualizado
[19:31] <wopgan> tah pegando alguma coisa?
[19:31] <wopgan> ou simplesmente foi deixado de lado?
[19:31] <wopgan> tah precisando de apoio?
[19:31] <wopgan> sei lá !
[19:31] <wopgan> tah rolando alguma coisa?
[19:32] <eloi_carneiro> wopgan, o chefe podia responder essa pergunta, ele esta mais por dentro do assunto
[19:32] <wopgan> chefe ...
[19:32] <eloi_carneiro> wopgan, brincadeira
[19:32] <wopgan> laihelaiehilaheale
[19:32] <wopgan> ah
[19:32] <wopgan> mais tipo .. pergunto pq, resolvi voltar a utilizar o ubuntu como distro principal
[19:33] <eloi_carneiro> sim
[19:33] <barna> num to sabendo de tudo, mas algo tem.
[19:33] <wopgan> e tipo ... fiz o basico .. q é ir atrás de suporte na comu oficial
[19:33] <eloi_carneiro> estamos aqui
[19:33] <wopgan> bem .. pelo menos qnd usei a um tempo atrás era assim
[19:33] <wopgan> tinha o site ... André um blog ...
[19:33] <wopgan> agora tah meio parado ..
[19:33] <barna> eloi_carneiro, salvo engano na versão "normal" do ubuntu ele já instalar o visualizador, o server vc tem q instalar e configurar, mas é q nem tirar doce de criança. muuuuuuuuito facil.
[19:33] <wopgan> sei q não é exclusividade do ubuntu
[19:34] <wopgan> muitas outras distros estão meio assim
[19:34] <wopgan> mais tipo .. como estou voltando com o uso no ubuntu
[19:34] <barna> wopgan, sinto o informe o andre foi embora.
[19:34] <wopgan> é eu sei
[19:34] <wopgan> e já a um tempo
[19:35] <wopgan> mais tipo .. ninguem continuou o trabalho dele?
[19:35] <barna> sim, esse ano perdi a data da homenagem a ele. tava off no periodo. mas rolou uma homenagem offline.
[19:35] <wopgan> ah ...
[19:36] <barna> a galera continuou o trampo sim, mas.......
[19:36] <barna> subistituir ele num é pra qualquer um.
[19:36] <wopgan> não msm ..
[19:36] <wopgan> mais tipo .. poxa ... seria legal ter aquilo de novo
[19:36] <wopgan> digo daquela epoca ..
[19:36] <barna> mas bola pra frente a vida segue..... nois tamo aki, e o ubuntu vai vivendo.
[19:36] <wopgan> sim claro
[19:37] <wopgan> existe alguma info de qndo o site vai voltar?
[19:37] <wopgan> algum grupo especifico cuidando disso?
[19:37] <wopgan> como posso ajudar?
[19:40] <barna> kra, "q bom" q o site saio do ar. pq tava mega desatualizado, tava mais atrapalhando do q ajudando.
[19:40] <wopgan> sim é ..
[19:40] <wopgan> mais tipo .. podemos correr atrás do preju né ...
[19:40] <barna> a ultima atualização dele tinha mais de 1 ano.
[19:41] <wopgan> podemos subir informações novas ... teve mt coisa rolando na canonical ...
[19:41] <wopgan> ubutão ai top de linha
[19:41] <barna> vei, uma galera do conselho tava no corre, de achar qm mantinha o site e atualizar. demorou.....
[19:41] <wopgan> o conselho bera mt aqui?
[19:41] <barna> o plano B era tirar do ar, pra num atrapalhar.
[19:41] <wopgan> ou aqui é um canal de users?
[19:42] <barna> tipo, lá tava pra download o ubuntu 14.10 q já foi descontinuado, geral baixando e num conseguindo instalar.
[19:42] <wopgan> é .. pois é ...
[19:42] <barna> todo santo dia entrava um aki pedindo ajuda. ai nois tinha q falar q foi descontinuado, os tempo de atualização etc....
[19:43] <wopgan> bom .. de toda forma ... eu estou aqui!
[19:43] <wopgan> disponivel para ajudar
[19:43] <barna> agora magina a galera q baixou e num funcionou. desistiu do ubuntu etc....
[19:43] <wopgan> e se tiverem noticias ... alguma força tarefa pra fazer a coisa continuar
[19:43] <wopgan> estou aqui
[19:44] <barna> massa, Bem Vindo de volta!
[19:45] <wopgan> é nóis macacada
[19:45] <wopgan> vamo q vamo !
[19:45] <wopgan> passei mt tempo com o arch ...
[19:45] <wopgan> to meio enferrujado ... mais isso resolve logo
[19:45] <wopgan> duvidas com o sistema " linux " por si pode contar comigo ...
[19:45] <barna> vixi, se vc desembolou no arch, ubuntu vai ser facil
[19:45] <wopgan> unity e ubuntu como um todo ...
[19:46] <wopgan> me da um tempo e logo to afiado de novo
[19:46] <barna> :D
[19:46] <wopgan> laiehalieha ... cara .. desde de 2011 qnd o unity apareceu ...
[19:46] <wopgan> sai .. só pq não fui com a cara dele ..
[19:46] <wopgan> mais sempre tive numa VM
[19:47] <wopgan> e agora vendo o tanto q ele tah evoluido ... e pode evoluir ... decidi voltar
[19:48] <barna> hehehehehehehehehe, vc e uma galera....
[19:48] <barna> clusive eu
[19:48] <barna> eu fui pro xfce....
[19:49] <wopgan> pois é .. minha esposa usa com mate ...
[19:49] <wopgan> eu q meio tava de bico virado pra distro .. sei lá ...
[19:49] <barna> eu to usando mate em pcs mais antigos, quase usando nos pcs de produção.
[19:49] <wopgan> agora acho q chegou a hora de voltar ...
[19:50] <wopgan> ah .. o unity é filé cara ..
[19:50] <barna> o unity ta prometendo uma reviravolta nos proximos tempos.
[19:50] <wopgan> sim .. eu andei lendo alguma coisa
[19:50] <barna> hoje eu até curto unity (alem de pesado). mas demorou um tempo pra me acostumar.
[19:51] <barna> fiquei puto com a imposição de migração. num dar escolha.
[19:51] <wopgan> é .. eu tbm lahiealiehailheai
[19:51] <wopgan> por isso cai de cabeça no arch
[19:51] <wopgan> por isso .. livre pra escolher
[19:52] <wopgan> mais o arch ... assim como toda meta distro ... tem os seus agravantes ...
[19:52] <barna> exato, isso achei (e acho) q foi paia.
[19:52] <wopgan> o convivio com a instabilidade é meio q viver em cima de um piso de vidro ...
[19:52] <barna> eu tentei funtoo (gentoo), mas foi D+ pra minha cabeça.
[19:53] <wopgan> laiehailheialhea .. eu usei um tempo
[19:53] <barna> sem falar de bom e velho debian.
[19:53] <wopgan> mais me adaptei melhor com o arch
[19:53] <barna> eu queria uma distro mais....... rapida.
[19:53] <wopgan> cara .. isso é ilusão ... e eu posso falar isso com prioridade ...
[19:54] <barna> mas meu problema é q uso o computador pra ganhar o pão nosso de cada dia, num posso viver com as "instabilidades"
[19:54] <wopgan> a velocidade tah em te atender ...
[19:54] <wopgan> a velocidade de uma distro não tah na DE .. ou no nucleo
[19:54] <wopgan> tah em como vc trabalha com ela
[19:54] <barna> kra eu trabalho com video.
[19:54] <wopgan> só ..
[19:54] <wopgan> eu sou admin de redes ...
[19:54] <barna> tipo só de usar um kernel lowlatecy já muda.
[19:55] <wopgan> boto fé ...
[19:55] <wopgan> ai é necessidade especifica né
[19:55] <barna> imaginei q com um funtoo bem configurado eu ia ter um real ganho de perfomasse,
[19:55] <wopgan> pra minha area se inicializar só com o terminal .. tipo xorg-twm ...
[19:55] <wopgan> já tah me servindo
[19:56] <barna> tem maquina aki q com unity num rola, já o mate ou xfce vai de boas.
[19:56] <wopgan> sim ...
[19:56] <barna> ow, vc trampa com rede, vou te fritar um dia desses.
[19:57] <wopgan> é nóis manolo
[19:57] <wopgan> bom ... no meu note q foi o primeiro a ser testado
[19:57] <wopgan> tah rodando super liso ...
[19:57] <wopgan> acredito q no comp de mesa vai ser a msm coisa ...
[19:57] <barna> eu to usando rede (coisa simples pra vc imagino), pq to construindo um clustering de render.
[19:57] <barna> ta usando qual versão?
[19:57] <wopgan> ai ó
[19:58] <wopgan> eu ... a ultima 15,10
[19:58] <wopgan> minha esposa tah usando a ultima LTS eu acho ...
[19:58] <wopgan> com o mate ...
[19:58] <barna> eu to com as duas aki.
[19:58] <wopgan> vou ver se coloco no comp de mesa essa noite ainda ...
[19:59] <barna> a 15.10 pra teste a 14.04 LTS pra trabalho..
[19:59] <wopgan> legal ..
[19:59] <wopgan> acho q vou seguir sua ideia ...
[19:59] <wopgan> o comp de mesa é onde concentro as coisas mais importantes ...
[19:59] <wopgan> a rede da casa toda se joga nele ...
[19:59] <wopgan> o ubuntu tinha uma parada tipo uma nuvem ...
[19:59] <wopgan> não tem mais né ?
[20:00] <barna> eu to desse corre de desenvolver o clustering, to usando o 15.10 pra ja ir resolvendo paus de mudanças.... pra poder migrar pro 16.04 mais de boas.
[20:00] <wopgan> ubuntu one
[20:00] <barna> kra sei não, nunca consegui usar isso.
[20:00] <barna> eu sou uma negação nesses paranaues de nuvens.
[20:00] <barna> o q sei usar é flickr pra banco de imagens e olhe lá!
[20:01] <wopgan> hum...
[20:01] <wopgan> acho q vou continuar com o owncloud então
[20:01] <wopgan> lahiehaleihaliehlai
[20:01] <barna> eu montei um sistema de integração camera > celular > flickr. bato a foto, vai pro celular (wifi) > backup no flickr.
[20:01] <wopgan> vai ser mais confiavel
[20:02] <wopgan> manolo .. to me mandando ... fazer uma pequena viagem pra casa
[20:02] <wopgan> me joga no projeto do cluster !
[20:02] <wopgan> to contigo ...
[20:02] <wopgan> mais tarde apareço online!
[20:02] <wopgan> e falamos mais !
[20:02] <wopgan> fui!
[20:02] <barna> wopgan, massa mano,
[20:04] <jaqent> wopgan: se não me engano foi desativado (ou ia ser)
[20:05] <barna> o one?
[20:06] <jaqent> é
[20:06] <lynxer10> ubuntu one foi desativado
[20:06] <lynxer10> nao tem mais o servico nao
[20:06] <hggdh> Ubuntu One foi descontinuado. O site ubuntu-br.org está, finalmente, a ser actualizado.
[20:06] <hggdh> *atualizado
[20:06] <barna> huuuuuhhhhuuuu
[20:07] <jaqent> wopgan: quando voltar olha o que o hggdh falou ^ aqui
[20:07] <hggdh> bem, pelo menos está é a minha esperança ;-)
[20:07] <jaqent> já é alguma coisa :D
[20:08] <jaqent> eu acho que ele deixou o bouncer aqui e foi pra casa
[20:09] <jaqent> ou não XD
[20:10] <jaqent> hggdh: uma pergunta, os logs do canal ficam disponível em algum lugar? (eu vi que tem um log bot aqui)
[20:11] <hggdh> jaqent: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[20:11] <barna> antigamente ficava, num lembro donde, procurando.....
[20:12] <hggdh> todos os canais Ubuntu que são loggedestão lá
[20:13] <jaqent> hggdh: muito obrigado :)
[20:15] <jaqent> caramba o log é eterno :O
[20:16] <barna> jaqent, tem os logs de 2008?
[20:18] <jaqent> barna: 2004
[20:18] <jaqent> desde 2004
[20:19] <jaqent> quer dizer eu não olhei todos, eles estão organizados por pastas ano/mes/dia ai dentro do dia tem uma versão html e uma txt de todos os canais que são logados pelo bot
[20:19] <barna> :D
[20:20] <barna> vou ver se acho meus primeiros dias aki, deve ser engraçado, eu 100% noob.
[20:20] * jaqent segura uma placa escrito "mãe eu to no log"
[20:20] <barna> como q liga o wifi?
[20:20] <jaqent> barna: todos fomos e somos noobs em várias coisas :)
[20:22] <barna> hehehehehehehe, podes cre!
[20:23] <jaqent> hggdh: vc sabe me dizer se existe um tarball de um canal específico ou dos logs?
[20:23] <jaqent> *ou de todos os logs?
[20:35] <jaqent> barna: 04/11/2010 é o primeiro do #ubuntu-br
[20:36] <barna> :(
[20:37] <jaqent> foi chatinho de achar ele na mão kkkk
[20:37] <barna> nessa época eu ja tava escolado. fui quando comecei a brigar com o nuno sobre LTS e versão mais recente.
[20:38] <jaqent> caraca, faz tempo que vc estão ness então...
[20:38] <jaqent> tá na hora de encerrar o assunto nem LTS dura tanto :P
[20:39] <barna> é q sempre q alguem pergunta qual instalar, eu do as duas opções, e indico o LTS pro novatos.
[20:39] <barna> ele indica a ultima versão.
[20:41] <jaqent> bom eu acho o que vc faz mais certo, eu não acho bacana só uma. As vezes que eu reclamei aqui foi por causa disso, que tinha gente falando específicamente pra se usar LTS pq a última tem suporte curto
[20:41] <barna> eu uso e indico as LTS, mas ai é por conta e risco do usuario.
[20:42] <barna> tipo novato, eu acho ruim indicar non-LTS, pq vai ter q atualizar, as chances de bugs é maior etc....
[20:42] <barna> mas tem os new-user q tão afim de fuçar, escarafunchar o OS, então vai na ultima mesmo!
[20:42] <barna> tem q sacar qual é a do user.
[20:43] <jaqent> eu até entendo a precaução nesse caso, é quem tem uma galera que trata non-LTS como se fosse versão alfa
[20:49] <lynxer10> jaqent: concordo com voce
[20:49] <jaqent> lynxer10: em que exatamente?
[20:50] <lynxer10> jaqent: sua ultima frase
[20:59] <jaqent> lynxer10: pois é
[21:07] <linuxbr> queria que vcs me falasse qual a configuração pra rodar ubuntu
[21:07] <linuxbr> tipo um notebook
[21:08] <barna> linuxbr, como assim?
[21:09] <linuxbr> tipo qual processador
[21:09] <hggdh> jaqent: não existe um tarball, até onde saiba. Mas é fácil: sabendo-se a estrutura dos logs, um shell script com wget ou curl pode pegar apenas os logs do #ubuntu-br
[21:09] <linuxbr> por q pretendo comprar um notebook pra colocar o ubuntu
[21:10] <jaqent> hggdh: essa era minha outra opção, eu prometo que serei gentil com o servidor :)
[21:11] <hggdh> jaqent: heh. Sugiro, realmente, dar um tempinho entre um download e outro; se é apenas o -br que te interessa, não necessita.
[21:11] <hggdh> alias, os logs todos (ASCII e HTML) ocupam *vários* GB
[21:11] <jaqent> é só o br mesmo, e só o txt
[21:12] <hggdh> (os meus logs pessoais, com ~ de 50 canais, estão em 5GB
[21:13] <hggdh> linuxbr: e para o que será usado o notebook?
[21:14] <linuxbr> pra uso em casa,navegar no facebook,pesquisar
[21:14] <hggdh> sem jogos, um i5 com 8GB, e video Intel funciona bem
[21:15] <hggdh> (o meu é um i7, 16GB, Intel)
[21:15] <linuxbr> isso td,i3 não rodaria,pois aqui esta um pouco caro esses note com i5,ta com preço de 1900
[21:16] <hggdh> jaqent: não-LTS *não* é alpha, ou beta. Mas *é* uma preparação para a próxima LTS.
[21:16] <linuxbr> os cara ainda quer empurarrar o windows junto
[21:20] <jaqent> hggdh: eu concordo com isso, talvez tenha me expressado mal
[21:21] <linuxbr> a 16.04 lts vai ser lançada quando
[21:21] <hggdh> jaqent: o ponto é que "coisas" podem ser experimentadas durante as não-LTS (como, no momento, systemD). Esta "coisas" podem ter, ah, problemas
[21:21] <rdconsolo> linuxbr, a Dell vende notebooks com Ubuntu já instalado
[21:22] <hggdh> linuxbr: 06.04 -- 2016, Abril (04).
[21:22] <hggdh> *16.04*
[21:22] <linuxbr> aqui na minha cidade ja procurei por todo lado,não achei u ubuntu,só o madriva
[21:23] <rdconsolo> linuxbr, entre no site da dell e busque o termo ubuntu. acredito que eles calculam o frete.
[22:01] <barna> linuxbr, opa voltei
[22:02] <barna> eu tenho um i3 primeira geração, rodando ubuntu avix, edito e renderizo video dele blz.
[22:02] <barna> linuxbr, te aconselho computador com placas intel, foge de AMD.
[22:02] <barna> amd + ubuntu = dor de cabeça
[22:04] <barna> linuxbr, essas aplicações q vc citou o problema num é processador e sim memoria ram.
[22:04] <barna> no seu caso um i7 quarta geração com 4 de ram vai ficar "lento" já um i3 com 16 de ram vai ser um "avião"
[22:06] <barna> !ping
[22:06] <jaqent> !pong
[22:07] <jaqent> hggdh: de fato
[22:12] <rf5> liberie:
[22:12] <rf5> licensed_:
[22:12] <rf5> silverf0x:
[22:12] <linuxbr> vou ver um i3 com 8 gb de ram,acho que vai ta bom
[22:13] <linuxbr> não gosto da amd
[22:26] <linuxbr> aguém ai sabe se essa bateria é boa Li-on, 3 celulas, 2200m Ah (integrada)
[22:40] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[23:08] <Stewaet> Hey, alguém que programa em C++ poderia me ajudar rapidinho ?
[23:08] <Stewaet> estou sem voz em #C++ :(
[23:08] <astroo-> ola
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.022929
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[19:24] <sylviolimas> boa tarde!
[19:24] <sylviolimas> algum brasileiro?
[19:24] <sylviolimas> anybody from brazil?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.027547
| 2015-11-20T00:00:00 |
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