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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-ru
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[07:43] <tagezi> утра всем
[09:57] <tagezi> lol - трёхбуквенное обозначение языка Монго по стандарту iso... кто бы знал :)
[09:58] <andrex> очевидно же
[09:58] <tagezi> наверное весь народ из петросянов и задорновых состоит )
[09:58] <andrex> угу
[10:02] <tagezi> уу - в монгольском значит пожалуйста :))
[10:05] <JohnDoe_71Rus> народ, фринода утром работала? не пускало "ту мени юзерс"
[10:06] <tagezi> не, досят с вечера
[10:06] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ясно
[10:08] <tagezi> правда не всюсеть.. по мелочам как-то, какие-то сервера отваливаются переодически, но вроде не бешенные полёты
[10:15] <andrex> ппц, печаль тоска, на работе вусмерть спать хотел, домой приперся расхотел
[10:17] <tagezi> бывает
[10:18] <tagezi> andrex: ты чо сутками теперь работаешь?
[10:19] <SergeyIT> так у него уже вечер
[10:21] <DanteA> Непонятно, кому и зачем её досить
[10:24] <JohnDoe_71Rus> хотят затащить в ботнет
[10:25] <DanteA> ?
[19:00] <Denver79> UNIm95: поставил дрова с сайта АМД - один хрен там нет пункта о частоте мониторов. И оно также мигает - поверх раб.стола мигает картинка сдвинутых рабочих столов. Именно поверх - скриншот делается нормальный )
[19:00] <UNIm95> Denver79: Как?
[19:00] <UNIm95> Denver79: как ты узнал что я только за комп сел?
[19:01] <Denver79> )) давно живу
[19:02] <UNIm95> Denver79: покажи скриншот вкладки менеджер дисплеев
[19:07] <Denver79> UNIm95: а не запускается он когда на встроенной видео интел включено
[19:07] <UNIm95> Так работай на ati карточке
[19:16] <Denver79> UNIm95: ха - щас amdcccle не включается и в меню этого пункта нет после переключения на встроенную. А как опять включить АМД если каталист не запускается? )) на дровах из репозитория каталист стартует из-под интела.. всё не слава Богу )
[19:17] <UNIm95> Denver79: смотри во vgaswithcheroo
[19:18] <UNIm95> или как-то так
[19:46] <Sergey_IT> вечера
[20:13] <tagezi> Sergey_IT: аречев
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2015-11-30-#launchpad-dev
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[02:37] <cjwatson> wgrant: I should also point out that udev isn't a source package in anything newer than precise, and I think systemd diffs work fine. But perhaps I should add a config option for undiffable source package names, and add cordova-cli to it?
[02:39] <lifeless> cjwatson: this is the big diff problem?
[02:39] <lifeless> cjwatson: wouldn't a resource limit of some sort be less maintenance?
[02:40] <cjwatson> lifeless: This is in addition to such a thing. See https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/limit-debdiff/+merge/278187, whose comments I'm following up on
[02:40] <lifeless> k
[02:45] <lifeless> cjwatson: commented there
[02:57] <wgrant> cjwatson: Fair point.
[03:08] <cjwatson> lifeless: Thanks, it occurred to me after the fact that an RLIMIT_FSIZE ulimit would be simple enough and useful. I'll work out a reasonable value for that and add one when I get round to addressing William's comments.
[03:09] <cjwatson> (I think that's the most useful measure - it's certainly the thing that directly causes problems first.)
[03:11] <StevenK> cjwatson: Out of interest, instead of, or as well as the time limit?
[03:15] <lifeless> belts + bracers >> belts | bracers
[03:15] <cjwatson> StevenK: Yeah, both.
[03:15] <cjwatson> I mean why not.
[03:16] <cjwatson> Both running out of disk space and starving the queue cause problems, so might as well act directly on both.
[03:36] <dupingping> hi everybody.
[03:36] <dupingping> I executed bzr branch lp:launchpad
[03:37] <dupingping> How to launch a server for launchpad?
[03:37] <dupingping> I already installed Ubuntu Server Trusty.
[03:38] <wgrant> dupingping: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting
[03:38] <wgrant> What are you planning to do with Launchpad?
[03:38] <dupingping> wgrant: I want to create a local server to create Ubuntu distro iso image automatically as launchpad.net
[03:39] <wgrant> dupingping: Launchpad is a very large and complex application, probably excessive for your needs. Why do you need to run your own?
[03:40] <dupingping> yes, I want to join in launchpad development.
[03:41] <dupingping> wgrant: of course, I want to contribute for launchpad.
[03:41] <wgrant> But you said you wanted to build Ubuntu ISOs.
[03:41] <dupingping> To do it, I need to test it by myself.
[03:41] <dupingping> yes, i said as that.
[03:41] <wgrant> Anyway, the page I linked has instructions for getting a basic development instance up and running.
[03:41] <wgrant> There are a few more steps after that to get ISO builds working.
[03:42] <dupingping> oh, yes. thank you. let me try.
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-it
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[08:28] <kagakazov> ragazzi ho un problema con la stampante connessa tramite cavo usb al router. il file che invio in stampa produce una pagina con su scritto un che l'impossibilità della stampa è collegata ad un "ERROR CODE : 11-1114" che scandagliando la rete sembra essere collegata ad un aggiornamento mancante del firmware della stampante https://community.samsung.it/t5/Domande-e-aiuto/M2022W-amp-Airprint/td-p/94511
[08:28] <kagakazov>
[08:28] <kagakazov> come faccio ad aggiornarlo
[08:28] <kagakazov> grazie :)
[08:30] <akis24> kagakazov: basta leggere come fare sul sito samsung ..
[08:32] <kagakazov> ma va bene anche per ubuntu??? non mi sono soffermato con attenzione
[08:33] <akis24> !chat | kagakazov
[08:33] <ubot-it> kagakazov: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:09] <trentuno> buon giorno a tutti i presenti
[10:09] <trentuno> non so se sono nella sezione giusta ma provero a esporre il mio problema
[10:10] <trentuno> circa un acqmese fa ho acquistao un pc lenovo b50 con gia preistallato windows 7
[10:12] <trentuno> allora effettuo un dual boot presenti un po sul web e installo ubunto 14.2 e fin a quel momento tutto bene
[10:13] <trentuno> ad un certo punto accade quello che non credevo possibile avviene un calo di tenzione e improvvisamente il pc va in crask
[10:14] <trentuno> allora avvio tutto e mi da alcuni problemi all'avvioo non mi vede i 2 sistemi operativi
[10:15] <krabador> ubunto 14.2
[10:15] <trentuno> spengo e riaccendo e mi rileva solo ubunto
[10:16] <trentuno> adesso controllo
[10:16] <trentuno> ora ho il 14.4
[10:17] <krabador> ubunto
[10:17] <cristian_c> !ubunto
[10:17] <ubot-it> Si scrive Ubuntu, con la "u" finale!
[10:17] <krabador> c'è la batteria?
[10:18] <trentuno> ubuntu 14.4 lts
[10:18] <trentuno> LTS
[10:18] <krabador> c'è la batteria?
[10:18] <trentuno> quel giono non era presente
[10:19] <trentuno> si m scs ma ho sbagliato a digitare
[10:20] <trentuno> la o x u
[10:20] <trentuno> cmq
[10:20] <trentuno> vedo un sulla rete e da quello che capsco ci possoo essere dei problemi con il/la root
[10:22] <trentuno> allora cerco di capire come risolvere il problema e le ricerche vanno a finire su boot-repair
[10:22] <krabador> trentuno, hai uefi?
[10:22] <trentuno> si :(
[10:23] <trentuno> dopo aver effettuato un o almeno penso un rirestino
[10:23] <trentuno> all'avvio del pc mi compaiono i 2 sistemi oerativi ubuntu e W
[10:24] <trentuno> ma qui e che vinene il bello seleziono W e mi dava avvio normale o avvio in modalita provvisoria
[10:25] <trentuno> se do su la voce modalita normale allora mi carica fino alla pagina "avete presente quando sta per lanciare i quatro colori di windows
[10:26] <trentuno> bene fino a li perche poi si blocca e tutto ricomincia da capo
[10:27] <trentuno> invece se metto in modalita provvisoria mi rimanda in un aschermata blu cn su delle indicazioni inerenti al bios e di contattare il mio tecnico di fiducia
[10:29] <trentuno> prima di usare boot-repair non riuscivo ad accede alla partizione dv cera windows
[10:30] <trentuno> adesso ci posso accedere da ubuntu vedere file prenderli modificarli ma non riesco ad utilizzare windows
[10:30] <trentuno> avete qualche suggerimento per la risoluzione del mio problema
[10:31] <krabador> trentuno, se accedi ad ubuntu , fa un backup delle cose che ti servono
[10:31] <trentuno> ok
[10:31] <krabador> consulta la documentazione del notebook , per vedere come fare un completo ripristino di fabbrica
[10:32] <trentuno> mi consigli di fare un reset totale
[10:33] <trentuno> ma una cosa io credo d'avere un cd di ripristino di windos 7 ma si vede che non e cosi
[10:33] <trentuno> se resetto tutto cosa succede
[10:35] <krabador> trentuno, se resetti tutto succede che hai il pc con le impostazioni di fabbrica
[10:38] <trentuno> si ok dico anche non avendo un cd di ripristino si puo fare il reset
[10:38] <trentuno> ma poi all'avvio come procedo
[10:40] <krabador> trentuno, se hai la partizione
[10:40] <krabador> fai da li
[10:41] <krabador> la partizione di ripristino
[10:42] <krabador> ma leggi a riguardo la doc del notebook
[10:50] <trentuno> ok farò cosi
[10:52] <trentuno> ovviamente non ho con me il manuale ma appenna possibile vedo cosa riesco a fare
[10:56] <cristian_c> trentuno: cerca sul sito ufficiale del produttore, il manuae
[11:02] <trentuno> ok ci sto provando
[11:02] <trentuno> il mio e un lenovo
[11:13] <trentuno> grazie per i consigli
[11:13] <trentuno> cerchero di fare come da manuale che ancora non ho trovato :)
[13:17] <alfredd> ciao, ho un problema con la stampante. invio la stampa, ma non va. (la stampante è funzionante, ha sempre funzionato, è correttamente accesa e correttamente collegata al pc). dalle impostazioni risulta "Interrotta - Unplugged or turned off" dall'ultimo aggiornamento di ubuntu. potete aiutarmi a risolvere per piacere?
[13:22] <krabador> alfredd, va nella gestione stampanti, rimuovi la presente, settala nuovamente
[13:30] <alfredd> si ci provo
[13:32] <alfredd> krabador: non riesco a capire come si rimuove. ho aperto il pannello stampante, ma non capisco come fare
[13:36] <krabador> alfredd, hai in alto a destra della finestra stampanti, un tasto "sblocca"
[13:36] <krabador> ?
[13:37] <alfredd> mi pare di no. ora vedo meglio.
[13:38] <krabador> alfredd, di che ubuntu stiamo parlando?
[13:38] <krabador> alfredd, fa uno screenshot di quella finestra, per favore
[13:38] <krabador> !image | alfredd
[13:38] <ubot-it> alfredd: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[13:38] <alfredd> ok
[13:39] <krabador> alfredd, di che ubuntu stiamo parlando?
[13:41] <ExPBoy> uhm
[13:42] <alfredd> 14.04 LTS
[13:43] <ExPBoy> e lo screen?
[13:44] <krabador> non mettere fretta
[13:44] <alfredd> http://imgur.com/T5mTXLI
[13:45] <krabador> alfredd, l'ha installata con questa finesta , o tramite hplip?
[13:47] <alfredd> non capisco la domanda!
[13:47] <alfredd> non ho installato mai niente.
[13:47] <alfredd> collego la usb accendo stampante e stampo.
[15:44] <lagnugna> salve ubuntiani...ho un problema con skype, dal sito ufficiale ho scaricato la versione per ubuntu a 64 bit, è un pkg .deb il problema viene quando lo apro, mi si apre il software center ma alla pag prinipale..
[15:44] <lagnugna> che sbaglio?
[15:44] <Carlin0> lagnugna, sicuro che il pacchetto sia a 64 bit ?
[15:44] <lagnugna> yesss
[15:44] <jester-> lagnugna: sta nei repo, devi abilitare i parteners
[15:45] <Carlin0> no , perchè a quanto mi risulta skype lo rilascia solo a 32
[15:45] <jester-> yess
[15:45] <lagnugna> mmmm e come li abilito?
[15:45] <jester-> rimuovilo e installa da repo
[15:45] <lagnugna> carlino, io ho trovato a 64 bit per ubuntu v 12. qualcosa
[15:46] <lagnugna> e che è repo?
[15:46] <jester-> !repo
[15:46] <ubot-it> Guida ai repository: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository e http://help.ubuntu-it.org/8.04/ubuntu/add-applications/it/extra-repositories.html | Esempio di sources.list http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList | Da Kubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/Kubuntu | EOL: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList/EOL
[15:47] <lagnugna> minchia intelligente sto robot:)
[15:48] <Carlin0> lagnugna, tu al massimo hai scaricato la multiarch che cmq è sempre a 32
[15:49] <lagnugna> ahhhhh redevo fosse a 64 okgrazie moprovo a capi che è sto repository
[15:52] <lagnugna> ultima domanda.. ho un problema con win... quando provo a installarlo a un certo punto mi dice che manca il driver dove si installa... chevuol dire?
[15:53] <Carlin0> !windows
[15:53] <ubot-it> per ricevere supporto per windows, rivolgersi al canale ##windows
[15:56] <lagnugna> carlino fa finta che abbia scritto ubuntu
[15:57] <Carlin0> !chat
[15:57] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:58] <Alex0131> Ciao..sul market di Ubuntu ci sono giochi dove mi chiede di acquistare ma non c è il prezzo...io clicco acquista e giustamente mi fa mettere la password...ma che cosa sto pagando se non c è un prezzo?
[15:59] <Alex0131> Grazie in anticipo
[16:00] <lagnugna> se non c è è gratiss
[16:00] <Alex0131> A...mi domandavo il motivo per la scritta acquista?è un bug?!
[16:14] <userpcuserpc> ciao c'è qualcuno?
[16:14] <Carlin0> !qualcuno | userpcuserpc
[16:14] <ubot-it> userpcuserpc: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[16:16] <userpcuserpc> ehm.......
[16:16] <userpcuserpc> niente stavo solo provando la chat
[16:18] <userpcuserpc> per caso sapete se ci sono altri canali italiani a parte questo?
[16:18] <Carlin0> !chat | userpcuserpc
[16:18] <ubot-it> userpcuserpc: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:20] <userpcuserpc> ringrazio
[17:43] <damiano> buona sera a tutti non riesco a far funzionare lo scanner della stampante epson xp-215 su ubunto 12.04 potreste aiutarmi...grazie
[18:00] <krabador> damiano, hai scaricato http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html ?
[18:01] <damiano> no
[18:01] <krabador> scaricalo in base all'architettura dell'os ed installalo
[18:02] <damiano> anzi si lo apro con gestione archivi lo installo ma poi non funziona lo stesso
[18:02] <krabador> damiano, nella pagina di download di epson , alla ricerca di xp-215 per linux, è ni risultati
[18:02] <krabador> damiano, no anzi si
[18:02] <krabador> damiano, evita di far perdere tempo, e rispondi precisamente.
[18:03] <damiano> ho scaricato il pacchetto ma non funziona lo stesso
[18:03] <krabador> e allora "hai scaricato http://support.epson.net/linux/en/iscan_c.html ?" "no" ?
[18:04] <damiano> si
[18:05] <damiano> ma non funziona
[18:07] <krabador> damiano, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:07] <damiano> provo
[18:07] <krabador> dpkg -l | grep iscan | pastebinit
[18:08] <krabador> damiano, non è un tentativo, è l'installazione di pastebinit per agevilare la diagnostica
[18:08] <krabador> *agevolare
[18:09] <damiano> fatto
[18:09] <krabador> manda l'altro
[18:09] <krabador> ed incolla qui l'indirizzo web risultante
[18:10] <krabador> dpkg -l | grep sane | pastebinit
[18:11] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580579/
[18:11] <krabador> damiano, l'altro?
[18:11] <krabador> te lo sei perso?
[18:12] <damiano> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[18:12] <damiano> mi dice cosi
[18:12] <krabador> damiano, non l'hai installato allora
[18:12] <krabador> quindi il primo "no" era vero
[18:12] <krabador> ;)
[18:12] <damiano> asp riprovo ma lo avevo installato forse male
[18:13] <damiano> scusami
[18:13] <krabador> damiano, lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[18:13] <krabador> "forse male" equivale a non aver fatto niente
[18:14] <damiano> scusa una volta scaricato lo devo estrarre
[18:14] <krabador> damiano, manda il comando
[18:14] <krabador> damiano, segui per favoe
[18:14] <krabador> favore.
[18:15] <damiano> scusa reset....ho scaricato nuovamente i driver dal link....per installarli come devo fare?
[18:15] <krabador> damiano, senti
[18:15] <krabador> torna quando hai voglia di seguire.
[18:15] <damiano> non sono pratico
[18:15] <damiano> ti seguo
[18:16] <krabador> damiano, non credo, ti ho appena mandato un comando da inviare nel terminale
[18:16] <damiano> ok
[18:16] <krabador> e te ne sei andato direttamente a scaricare il file dal link
[18:16] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580693/
[18:17] <krabador> puoi scaricare la versione del file a 64 bit
[18:17] <damiano> ok ti seguo meglio scusami
[18:17] <damiano> ok
[18:17] <krabador> scarica il file, a quel punto vai nella cartella che contiene il file, tasto destro del mouse "apri nel terminale"
[18:17] <damiano> ora siamo al punto di prima ho scaricato ma non so se ho installato
[18:18] <krabador> damiano, ma non ce la fai proprio a seguire?
[18:18] <damiano> ok
[18:19] <damiano> non mi da l opzione invia a terminale
[18:20] <krabador> ok, allora ctrl l
[18:20] <krabador> selezioni il percorso completo
[18:20] <krabador> fai copia
[18:20] <krabador> apri il terminale, digiti cd invio
[18:21] <mikeit> ciao a tutti
[18:21] <krabador> * digiti cd incolli il percorso
[18:21] <krabador> invio
[18:21] <krabador> damiano, queste ultime 2 linee per favore
[18:21] <krabador> !ciao | mikeit
[18:21] <ubot-it> mikeit: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[18:22] <krabador> damiano, una volta fatto, ls -la | pastebinit
[18:22] <mikeit> scusate nessuno ha avuto problemi con l'update v5.0.10 virtualbox oracle?
[18:22] <krabador> mikeit, quale ubuntu?
[18:22] <mikeit> scusa 15.04
[18:23] <mikeit> mi dice che ha problemi con la versione precedente
[18:23] <mikeit> volevo provare a disinstallare
[18:23] <krabador> mikeit, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:23] <krabador> mikeit, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[18:24] <mikeit> come si fa a recuperare l'url di pasebinit
[18:24] <krabador> mikeit, copia ed incolla i 2 comandi che ti ho dato, nel terminale, premi invio
[18:24] <damiano> non ci riesco
[18:24] <krabador> damiano, rileggi i messaggi, riprova finquando non ci riesci
[18:25] <krabador> damiano, appena fatto, segnala
[18:25] <damiano> ctrl-l non succede nulla
[18:25] <krabador> damiano, dall'interno di nautilus, appare il percorso completo
[18:25] <krabador> damiano, sei nel gestore dei files o no?
[18:26] <mikeit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580860/
[18:26] <damiano> no
[18:26] <krabador> damiano, nel frattempo, se un tuo vicino di casa, se ne intende un po', di pc, chiamalo ,fallo sedere accanto a te
[18:27] <damiano> dai mai usato ubuntu fino a ieri
[18:27] <krabador> damiano, "<krabador> scarica il file, a quel punto vai nella cartella che contiene il file, tasto destro del mouse "apri nel terminale" ---> hai risposto "<damiano> non mi da l opzione invia a terminale" , hai chiuso subito
[18:27] <krabador> damiano, non credo, sei venuto precedentemente qui
[18:27] <krabador> questo canale ha il log
[18:27] <krabador> ed è consultabile che sei stato qui
[18:28] <krabador> quando hai visto che non avevi l'opzione, hai chiuso subito il gestore dei files?
[18:28] <krabador> mikeit, sei strapieno di ppa
[18:29] <krabador> non ci sono problemi con quell'aggiornamento, in un sistema pulito
[18:29] <mikeit> krabador, lo so
[18:29] <krabador> mikeit, la convivenza di svariati pacchetti provenienti da ovunque, puo' causare problemi come il tuo
[18:29] <mikeit> krabador, ma sto installando da deb
[18:30] <damiano> mi spiego meglio...io ho gestori di archivi con la cartella scaricata ma non mi da la possibilità di inviare al terminale
[18:30] <krabador> damiano, ti ho semplicemente chiesto di copiare il percorso completo
[18:30] <mikeit> krabador, il repo di virtualbox lo messo dopo il problema per provare ma è obsoleto arriva alla 4.3
[18:30] <krabador> ed incollarlo nel terminale
[18:31] <damiano> il percorso completo è una specie di link
[18:31] <krabador> mikeit, installare il deb a secco , puo' vedere il sistema nona avere le dipendenze adatte
[18:31] <krabador> e dare errore
[18:31] <krabador> damiano, hai chiamato il vicino di casa?
[18:31] <damiano> tra un po
[18:32] <krabador> damiano, no, per favore, chiamalo adesso, cosi' leggete insieme
[18:32] <krabador> magari lui sa cos'è un "percorso completo" di un file/cartella
[18:32] <damiano> ok inviato a terminale
[18:33] <krabador> damiano, ls -la | pastebinit
[18:33] <mikeit> krabador, perche l'output dell'dpkg -i ecc (l'errore) non mi da l'url di pastebinit
[18:33] <krabador> mikeit, ubuntu pacchettizza virtualbox appunto per non avere problemi di sorta
[18:33] <krabador> il tuo sistema è pieno di ppa che possono aver fatto di tutto
[18:33] <damiano> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580999/
[18:33] <mikeit> krabador, dici?
[18:33] <krabador> damiano, non hai incollato niente nel terminale
[18:34] <mikeit> ma per
[18:34] <krabador> damiano, hai mandato il contenuto della home
[18:34] <krabador> che è la cartella in cui si è quando si apre il terminale
[18:34] <krabador> mikeit, si
[18:34] <damiano> non riesco a trovare il percorso uffa
[18:34] <krabador> damiano, ti ho detto come fare
[18:35] <krabador> te lo ripeto
[18:35] <krabador> 1) apri il gestore files ( che si chiama nautilus)
[18:35] <krabador> 2) vai nella cartella in cui hai scaricato il file
[18:35] <mikeit> krabador, ma per quanto riguarda pastebinit è normale non dare l'url sull'output del dpkg -i vbox.deb
[18:35] <krabador> 3) premi ctrl l
[18:36] <krabador> 4) copi /percorso/della/cartella/con/dentro/ilfile/
[18:36] <krabador> 5) apri il terminale, se non è già aperto
[18:36] <krabador> 6)digita cd
[18:36] <krabador> 7)incolli
[18:36] <krabador> 8) premi invio
[18:36] <krabador> 9) ls -la | pastebinit
[18:37] <krabador> mikeit, pastebinit si usa : <comando> | pastebinit
[18:38] <mikeit> krabador, si ma non mi da l'url
[18:38] <mikeit> con l'update si ma
[18:39] <mikeit> krabador, puo darsi perche il comando non è andato a buon fine?
[18:39] <mikeit> krabador, mi sembrerebbe un controsenso
[18:39] <damiano> sono andato in gestione archivi ho aperto la cartella ho fatto ctrl-l ma non succede nulla...dove sbaglio?
[18:39] <krabador> damiano, fa uno screenshot
[18:39] <krabador> !image | damiano
[18:39] <ubot-it> damiano: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[18:40] <damiano> il comando screenshot
[18:41] <mikeit> krabador, infatti mi dice You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[18:41] <krabador> damiano, premi il tasto stamp
[18:41] <krabador> il sistema fa uno screenshot che salva nella cartella immagini
[18:41] <krabador> mikeit, ma mandi dpkg nella cartella in cui è dentro il deb?
[18:42] <mikeit> si si
[18:42] <krabador> mikeit, ti faccio presente, in ogni caso, che 15.04 entro breve verrà dismessa, non verrà piu' aggiornata,e non se ne farà piu' supporto qui
[18:43] <damiano> file:///home/damiano/Immagini/Schermata%20del%202015-11-30%2019:42:01.png
[18:43] <cristian_c> ottimo
[18:43] <cristian_c> damiano: è l'indirizzo del file nel tuo pc
[18:44] <mikeit> krabador, dovro decidermi a rinstallare e che sto prendendo la cert ccna e ce sempre qualcosa di piu urgente
[18:44] <cristian_c> damiano: quindi, o veniamo direttamente a casa tua, oppure postalo sul web, sto screenshot
[18:44] <mikeit> krabador, grazie mille per il tuo tempo ;)
[18:44] <mikeit> ciao
[18:45] <krabador> mikeit, di niente
[18:45] <krabador> damiano, senti, qua non è questione di esperienza o di praticità
[18:45] <krabador> damiano, non segui
[18:45] <damiano> perchè non invia
[18:46] <krabador> ti è stato mandato il link che devi usare per mandare lo screenshot
[18:46] <krabador> ci sei andato?
[18:47] <damiano> infatti c'è
[18:47] <damiano> si
[18:48] <cristian_c> damiano: sai cos'è un indirizz0 web?
[18:48] <cristian_c> o
[18:51] <damiano> scusate il disagio e grazie per la vostra pasienza.....ora devo andare la prossima volta mando il vicino
[18:51] <damiano> sorryy
[18:51] <damiano> buona serata a tutti
[18:54] <krabador> damiano, basta solo che impari cd /percorso/di/cartella
[18:54] <krabador> damiano, che se hai scaricato da firefox e non ti ha chiesto dove scaricare
[18:55] <krabador> è ~/Scaricati
[18:56] <damiano> il file lo vedo
[18:56] <krabador> damiano, eh, ma ormai non hai tempo ...
[18:57] <krabador> damiano, in ogni caso, sarebbe rispetto da parte tua verso questa risorsa
[18:57] <krabador> che tu mandi il link dello screenshot della finestra nautilus, che contriene il file e che sostieni non contenga il percorso completo della cartella
[18:58] <krabador> dopo la pressione di ctrl l
[18:58] <krabador> !image | damiano
[18:58] <ubot-it> damiano: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[18:58] <krabador> link che ottieni se vai nel sito imgur, segnalato appena adesso da ubot-it
[18:59] <damiano> non voglio mancare di rispetto ma devo proprio andare..grazie davvero per la pasienza
[19:00] <krabador> stai mancando di rispetto
[19:00] <krabador> visto che è un'operazione di 10 secondi
[19:00] <krabador> ed hai salutato 10 minuti fa dicendo che "devi andare"
[19:02] <damiano> non voglio prendere in giro nessuno perchè non mi permetterei mai soprattutto a voi che offrite un assistenza eccezzionale..
[19:03] <damiano> il pacchetto del link che mi avevi dato all'inizio quello della epson per capirci ho provato ad installarlo nuovamente e adesso
[19:03] <damiano> lo scanner funziona
[19:04] <damiano> probabilmente la volta precedente non lo avevo installato correttamente
[19:04] <damiano> ho fatto una prova ora e lo scanner va.....botta di fortuna più che bravura mia
[19:04] <krabador> damiano, hai altre domande?
[19:05] <damiano> immagino tu non mi creda perchè non ci crederei nemmeno io ma è così ora va
[19:05] <krabador> damiano, hai altre domande?
[19:05] <damiano> no vi lascio lavorare
[19:05] <krabador> se no, segui
[19:05] <krabador> !chat | damiano
[19:05] <ubot-it> damiano: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[19:05] <krabador> il consiglio di ubot
[19:06] <damiano> grazie era doveroso scusatemi la perdita di tempo...siete speciali...ciao
[19:18] <krabador> you want break !!! BallBreaker !!!!
[19:29] <D3s> Salve
[19:29] <krabador> !chat | D3s
[19:29] <ubot-it> D3s: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[19:54] <Paradisee_> ciao a tutti.
[19:55] <Paradisee_> ho appena comprato un hd da usare come backup su ubuntu.
[19:55] <Paradisee_> ho un ssd dove c'è il sistema, ma come posso utilizzare il secondo come secondario?
[21:01] <D3s> Salve
[21:04] <D3s> Oggi ho cercato di installare ubuntu server 14.04.3,dal usb con unetbootin, a un passaggio che verificava i dati del cd-rom ovviamente mi usciva un errore che non trovava i dati, pero non c'era un metodo di selezionare l'unità di installazione (cd,usb) :'(
[21:04] <D3s> Potete aiutarmi?
[21:06] <D3s> !chat D3s
[21:06] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'chat D3s'
[21:06] <D3s> !help
[21:06] <ubot-it> http://help.ubuntu-it.org
[21:06] <cristian_c> !usbwin | D3s
[21:06] <ubot-it> D3s: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[21:07] <D3s> funziona anche per ubuntu server? :D
[21:09] <cristian_c> D3s: installi ubuntu server su un pc desktop?
[21:09] <D3s> si
[21:14] <cristian_c> D3s: dovrebbe permetterti il boot
[21:14] <D3s> ok provo subito
[21:14] <D3s> comunque grazie per il supporto
[21:17] <maxer> salve a tutti.. domanda semplice semplice...
[21:18] <maxer> vorrei cambiare la forma della barra laterale di scorrimento.. è troppo piccola e il cursore non si vede bene
[21:18] <maxer> per barra laterale intendo quella che ci sta a dx di molte finestre che serve per scorrere verso il basso o verso l'alto la pagina
[21:19] <cristian_c> maxer: non hai specificato: unity?
[21:19] <maxer> scusa
[21:19] <maxer> ubunto gnome
[21:19] <cristian_c> maxer: e quale ubuntu?
[21:19] <maxer> ubuntu gnome
[21:19] <cristian_c> maxer: lsb_release -a
[21:21] <maxer> mi dice comando non trovato
[21:22] <maxer> ok sono scemo.. un sec
[21:22] <maxer> no lsb aviable
[21:23] <cristian_c> maxer: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[21:23] <cristian_c> maxer: cat /etc/issue | pastebinit
[21:23] <maxer> come prima ma ora mi dice anche un sito
[21:24] <cristian_c> maxer: incolla un link
[21:24] <cristian_c> il
[21:24] <maxer> che linik?
[21:24] <maxer> link?
[21:26] <cristian_c> cristian_c: 'mi dice anche un sito'
[21:26] <cristian_c> <- contestualizza
[21:27] <maxer> aaa ti devo far vedere il sito
[21:27] <maxer> ok
[21:27] <maxer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13583964/
[21:27] <maxer> forteeee
[21:29] <cristian_c> maxer: apri lo gnome control center
[21:30] <cristian_c> !info gnome-control-center
[21:30] <ubot-it> gnome-control-center (source: gnome-control-center): utilities to configure the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.16.3-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 1590 kB, installed size 6179 kB
[21:31] <maxer> penso di esserci
[21:31] <maxer> si chiama imppstazioni? ha chiave inglese e cacciavite
[21:32] <cristian_c> maxer: prova
[21:34] <maxer> a fare cosa?
[21:36] <cristian_c> maxer: hai aperto il control center?
[21:36] <maxer> non so se e questo si chiama impostazioni con chiave inglese e cacciavite
[21:39] <cristian_c> !image ! maxer
[21:39] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'image ! maxer'
[21:39] <cristian_c> !image | maxer
[21:39] <ubot-it> maxer: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[21:39] <maxer> ho cercato cotrol center e mi ha fatto installare una cosa di unity
[21:39] <cristian_c> maxer: beh, no
[21:39] <cristian_c> nessuno ti costringe a far niente
[21:40] <cristian_c> maxer: dpkg -l | grep center
[21:40] <cristian_c> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[21:40] <ubot-it> gnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweak-tool): tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.16.2-2 (wily), package size 152 kB, installed size 1242 kB
[21:41] <maxer> dove lo scarico?
[21:41] <cristian_c> D3s: ho i privati disabilitati
[21:41] <cristian_c> scrivi in canale
[21:41] <D3s> cristan_c: credo che mi si è bloccato usb installer.... E' da 20m circa che sta su "Creating the Persistent File: The progress bar will not move until finished. Please be patient..."
[21:41] <maxer> non so come si fa a scriver ei privato
[21:41] <maxer> aaa ok
[21:41] <cristian_c> maxer: posta l'immagine e digita il cmando
[21:42] <cristian_c> maxer: non ho detto di scrivere in privato
[21:42] <cristian_c> D3s: come hai formattato la usb?
[21:43] <maxer> ooooo.. ho scritto nel terminale gnome-tweak-tool
[21:43] <maxer> ed è apparso una cosa moolto figa
[21:43] <cristian_c> ?
[21:43] <D3s> cristian_c: Da windows
[21:44] <cristian_c> D3s: con quale filesystem?
[21:44] <maxer> qui si chiama strumenti di personalizzazione ...cmq ho fatto...
[21:44] <maxer> sempre il numero uno... ormai avanzi tanto da bere da diventare astemio!
[21:44] <maxer> grazie
[21:44] <cristian_c> maxer: hai trovato le opzioni delle scrollbar?
[21:44] <maxer> yes
[21:44] <cristian_c> perfetto
[21:44] <D3s> cristian_c: con quello di windows (tasto destro, formatta)
[21:45] <cristian_c> D3s: beh, ntfs?
[21:45] <cristian_c> o altro?
[21:45] <maxer> io si cosa molto più complessa
[21:45] <maxer> non riesco a mettere le cartelle sul desktop
[21:46] <cristian_c> maxer: definisci 'non riesco a mettere le cartelle sul desktop
[21:46] <cristian_c> '
[21:46] <maxer> trovato
[21:46] <maxer> sempre nello stesso pannello
[21:46] <maxer> è la vostra influenza a far andare bene linux
[21:46] <cristian_c> intendi , cestino, home, ecc...?
[21:47] <maxer> funzionaste bene anche in c sarei a posto
[21:47] <D3s> cristan_c: si
[21:47] <maxer> risolto
[21:47] <maxer> cmq intendevo creare una cartella, mettere un icona ecc..
[21:49] <krabador> tra il dire e il fare c'è di mezzo il mare.
[21:50] <maxer> ci infilerei anche ubuntu e il prof di algoritmi.. torno a studiare grazie ancora
[21:56] <cristian_c> D3s: formattala in fat32
[21:56] <cristian_c> non in ntfs
[21:57] <D3s> ok ho giusto cominciato 2s prima del tuo messaggio ahah
[21:58] <DEVILOANGEL> buonasera a tutti
[21:58] <DEVILOANGEL> io ho un enorme problema...
[21:58] <D3s> buonasera
[21:58] <DEVILOANGEL> dovrei scaricare ubuntu per una mia cliente.... l'ho scaricato già due volte ma il mac mi dà nessuna file system attivabile quando vado ad aprirlo...
[21:59] <DEVILOANGEL> allora ho provato a masterizzare cmq l'immagine anche con l'errore mac è ottenuto il risultato che non è riuscito a masterizzare correttamente
[21:59] <DEVILOANGEL> mi ha dato verifica non riuscita... ho inserito il disco nel pc ma nulla rimane sulla scritta ubuntu coi puntini...
[22:00] <DEVILOANGEL> come posso fare?? entro domani mattina devo consegnarle il pc xD
[22:01] <cristian_c> DEVILOANGEL: hai scambiato questo canale per un centro assistenza al cliente?
[22:03] <D3s> cristan_c: Chissa quanti favori ti devo ahah :')
[22:03] <cristian_c> DEVILOANGEL: qui si fa assistenza a privi
[22:04] <cristian_c> DEVILOANGEL: qui si fa assistenza a privati, non si sostiene attività di business
[22:04] <DEVILOANGEL> boh allora se non potete darmi assistenza mi arrangerò che devo fare... xD
[22:04] <DEVILOANGEL> ma io riparo pc e smartphone come attività...
[22:04] <DEVILOANGEL> la mia cliente aveva windows su un pc vecchio gli ho consigliato di mettere ubuntu ma se non posso avere assistenza troverò un altro rimedio
[22:04] <DEVILOANGEL> nessun problema ;)
[22:05] <cristian_c> DEVILOANGEL: ubuntu non vuol dire scrocco
[22:05] <DEVILOANGEL> mi spiace perchè pensavo di portare questa signora a un sistema più funzionale per le capacità del suo pc..
[22:05] <cristian_c> !paga | DEVILOANGEL
[22:05] <ubot-it> DEVILOANGEL: se il supporto volontario non ti è stato di aiuto sappi che Canonical, casamadre ubuntu, offre un servizio h24 di assistenza a pagamento: http://www.ubuntu.com/management , siamo sicuri che potrai avere tutto l'aiuto tecnico necessario, offrendo inoltre sostentamento ad Ubuntu!
[22:05] <DEVILOANGEL> cosa vuol dire scrocco?
[22:06] <D3s> cristian_c: grazie per il supporto, alla prossima :)
[22:06] <DEVILOANGEL> io ho solo chiesto quale poteva essere il problema... se volete dei soldi per il sistema operativo basta dirlo invece di metterlo a gratis e poi lamentrasi... boh...
[22:06] <cristian_c> D3s: hai risolto con universal usb?
[22:06] <DEVILOANGEL> non capisco... manco avessi cercato di craccare o cosa...
[22:06] <D3s> cristian_c: si, grazie
[22:07] <cristian_c> DEVILOANGEL: noi non siamo canonical, qui si fa assistenza volontaria a privati su pc desktop
[22:07] <DEVILOANGEL> si ma la mia cliente non capisce nulla come fai a spiegare a una persona che non capisce nulla come metterselo?
[22:07] <DEVILOANGEL> se vi interessa lo faccio pure a gratis perchè non ha manco soldi questa...
[22:07] <DEVILOANGEL> cmq ripeto nessun problema mi aggiusto diversamente...
[22:07] <cristian_c> DEVILOANGEL: ma non è corretto portare avanti la propria attività economica appoggiandosi alla community, con la scusa di far proselitismo
[22:08] <cristian_c> !chat | DEVILOANGEL
[22:08] <DEVILOANGEL> ma chi si appoggia alla comunity??
[22:08] <ubot-it> DEVILOANGEL: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[22:09] <DEVILOANGEL> io manco conosco ubuntu... io uso apple... alla mia cliente mi sono sentito di consigliargli ubuntu per il suo pc visto che è vecchiotto e altri sistemi li regge a fatica
[22:09] <DEVILOANGEL> io la mia attività economica non la porto avanti di sicuro appogiandomi alla comunity.. non mi sembra di avervi mai chiesto nulla... ho solo chiesto ora perchè appunto volevo fare un favore a una cliente...
[22:09] <cristian_c> DEVILOANGEL: quando si consigliano, lo si deve fare in base alle capacità e alle predisposizione dell'utente verso il nuovo sistema opwrativo
[22:10] <cristian_c> DEVILOANGEL: che linux non è sinonimo di riciclo
[22:10] <DEVILOANGEL> no certo... ma linux è un sistema operativo molto leggero e sicuramente nettamente migliore di windows
[22:11] <DEVILOANGEL> io ho consigliato ubuntu perchè appunto windows lo schifo altrimenti avrebbe ottenuto la stessa funzionalità con xp ;)
[22:12] <krabador> DEVILOANGEL, molto leggero è da contestualizzare
[22:12] <krabador> dipende dall'ambiente grafico che si monta
[22:12] <krabador> e tutta una serie di cose
[22:12] <DEVILOANGEL> sicuramente avesse possibilità economiche gli consiglierei apple e non windows... linux non lo consiglio solo per la poca compatibilità... tutto li...
[22:12] <DEVILOANGEL> perchè se fosse per me microsoft può solo chiudere con le porcate che fa...
[22:12] <krabador> DEVILOANGEL, e perchè se avesse disponibilità economiche non gli consiglieresti linux?
[22:13] <DEVILOANGEL> per la poca compatibilità...
[22:13] <krabador> ah si?
[22:13] <krabador> ed in cosa non sarebbe compatibile?
[22:13] <DEVILOANGEL> in molti programmi...
[22:13] <krabador> tipo ?
[22:13] <DEVILOANGEL> solid works
[22:14] <DEVILOANGEL> photoshop
[22:14] <DEVILOANGEL> corel draw...
[22:14] <krabador> DEVILOANGEL, allora, inquadra una cosa ... linux/windows/macosx ... è un discorso che non ha senso di base , se non si inquadra cosa ci si deve fare con il pc
[22:14] <DEVILOANGEL> devo andare avanti?
[22:14] <DEVILOANGEL> con il pc cosa si deve fare in che senso?
[22:15] <DEVILOANGEL> l'unica cosa per scegliere windows sarebbe per il gioco...
[22:15] <krabador> chi ha bisogno di fare un dereminato tipo di lavoro, ha bisogno di un determinato strumento, ed in base ad esso , sceglie il sistema operativo
[22:15] <krabador> non il contrario
[22:15] <DEVILOANGEL> per il lavoro apple o linux... dipende da quel che uno ha bisogno... linux chiaramente ha fatto passi da gigante ma ancora deve migliorare...
[22:15] <krabador> se hai sempre fatto cosi', mo vergogno di essere un tuio collega
[22:16] <DEVILOANGEL> non siamo colleghi ;)
[22:16] <krabador> lo spero.
[22:16] <krabador> !chat | DEVILOANGEL
[22:16] <ubot-it> DEVILOANGEL: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[22:16] <DEVILOANGEL> no tranquillo ;)
[22:17] <DEVILOANGEL> se vuoi valutare il mio lavoro vieni parliamo di persona e valuti... non dire vergogno e simili senza neanche sapere chi sono e cosa faccio ;)
[22:17] <DEVILOANGEL> perchè ti assicuro che ho un ottima nomea... ;)
[22:17] <krabador> questo canale ha il log, per la consultazione di cio' che riguarda il sistema operativo
[22:17] <DEVILOANGEL> e io non "insulto" a caxxo...
[22:17] <krabador> non per chiacchere di questo tipo
[22:18] <DEVILOANGEL> si ma non ho bisogno più di chiaccherare... vi trovo una comunity poco educata... perchè ci sono modi e modi per dire le cose ;)
[22:19] <krabador> e tu sei un utente poco educato, in quanto stai continuando dopo piu' avvertimenti, ad usare il canale sbagliato
[22:21] <DEVILOANGEL> diverso... io sono educato e dunque se uno mi dice qualcosa rispondo ;)
[22:21] <DEVILOANGEL> cmq ok tolgo il disturbo...
[22:21] <krabador> DEVILOANGEL, ti si sta invitando nell'altro canale della community
[22:21] <krabador> nessuno ti sta cacciando, solo non è questa la sede per disquisire, ,ma solo per supporto tecnico
[22:21] <krabador> !log | DEVILOANGEL
[22:21] <ubot-it> DEVILOANGEL: Log del canale: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[22:22] <krabador> !chat | DEVILOANGEL
[22:22] <ubot-it> DEVILOANGEL: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[22:39] <corvo> salve non riesco a far fungere yumi. ho la 12.04 e gambas3-runtime (pacchetto richiesto per yumi) non c'è. Dunque l'ho installato manualmente aggiungendo il PPA, l'installazione va bene ma seguendo la guida devo creare un dummy package con 'equivs' e nel farlo ho degli errori http://pastebin.fr/43624. Li ignoro installo il pacchetto .deb che ora parte perchè trova gambas3 ma poi all'avvio di yumi installato mi dice 'TrayIcon': Unable to load class file. F
[22:39] <corvo> Main.FMain.0
[22:40] <corvo> non so più che fare, aiuto?
[22:40] <gigirock> !info yumi
[22:40] <ubot-it> Package yumi does not exist in wily
[22:41] <gigirock> che e' sto yumi corvo (rossononavraiilmioscalpo) ?
[22:42] <corvo> è un softwarino per il multibooting
[22:43] <gigirock> ah allora usa sardo
[22:43] <gigirock> !info sardo
[22:43] <ubot-it> Package sardo does not exist in wily
[22:43] <corvo> non è lo stesso...
[22:43] <corvo> non ci posso fare le stesse cose
[22:44] <gigirock> corvo, unica esperienza che ho avuto con yumi era simile alla tua...ho lasciato perdere perche' non si puo' installare 500 pacchi per un yumi
[22:44] <gigirock> corvo, a che ti serve sto yumi ?
[22:45] <corvo> vabbuò... ho capito
[22:45] <corvo> grazie ciao
[22:45] <gigirock> prego
[22:46] <krabador> vabbuo' corvo
[22:46] <krabador> è stat' 'nu piacir'
[22:46] <krabador> !chat | corvo
[22:46] <ubot-it> corvo: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[22:49] <gigirock> !info multisystem
[22:49] <ubot-it> Package multisystem does not exist in wily
[23:21] <cristian_c> !info multicd
[23:21] <ubot-it> Package multicd does not exist in wily
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-es
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[20:14] <successus> salud!
[20:20] <Mr-label> hello
[21:20] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.418327
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2015-11-30-#juju
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[11:31] <jamespage> marcoceppi, hey - is it possible to re-trigger the review queue tests for https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/xz-indexes/+merge/277880 ?
[11:31] <jamespage> cjwatson asked me to look on Friday, but the test failures had been dropped due to archiving of older results I think
[13:19] <marcoceppi> jamespage: restarted, but the results do disappear after a few days, but they are premenantly recorded here: http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-test-details/charm-bundle-test-parent-3650
[13:21] <marcoceppi> jamespage: it looks like the tests need to be fixed to use the better format of amulet.sentry['service'][0] instead of hard-coding '/0'
[13:51] <jamespage> marcoceppi,
[13:51] <jamespage> ack
[14:10] <stub> marcoceppi: Is all-machines.log or equivalent available anymore from CI runs? I can't see a link to them any more.
[14:27] <marcoceppi> stub: they should be
[14:27] <marcoceppi> stub: where are you looking?
[14:28] <jose> arosales, marcoceppi: hey guys, wanted to check everything was going good wrt tasks?
[14:48] <stub> marcoceppi: http://review.juju.solutions/review/2370 - just a link to jenkins logs
[14:51] <marcoceppi> stub: yes, this is a known deficiency. THe results still get logged to the vapour.ws site
[14:52] <marcoceppi> stub: http://reports.vapour.ws/all-bundle-and-charm-results/cassandra
[14:52] <marcoceppi> http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-test-details/charm-bundle-test-parent-3785
[15:00] <stub> marcoceppi: ahh, ta.
[16:00] <roadmr> hey juju folks :) what's a good way to get the last X lines of log from a unit? juju ssh $UNIT_ID sudo cat /var/log/juju/unit-$UNIT_TAG.log feels kludgy, and juju debug-log -i $UNIT_ID --limit=100 -n 100 can block if there are less than 100 lines in the log file :(
[16:21] <jrwren> charmers: any advice on these failure? http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/charm-bundle-test-lxc/1534/console from http://review.juju.solutions/review/2357 I recall something about broken test env on that day. If no advice, can you please rerun those tests, assuming env is fixed?
[16:37] <bloodearnest> reactive question: where do I put my layer's unit tests, and do I run them in the layer, or in the built charm?
[16:38] <lazypower> bloodearnest: unit tests belong in the unit_tests directory in the layer, and should be runnable by both the layer and the built charm for completeness
[16:39] <tvansteenburgh> jrwren: i queued another test on lxc
[16:39] <bloodearnest> lazypower, right. Is there a standard place to put test dependencies in the layer?
[16:40] <lazypower> bloodearnest: so far i've seen a lot of use of tox to isolate all that in a venv
[16:41] <bloodearnest> lazypower, right, that's what I would do for a normal charm. Unsure about how different layers would combine the setup/running of their unit_tests in the built charm
[16:42] <lazypower> yeah, the files being overriden by the top layer that generates the built charm will be the holder of any overriden files
[16:42] <bloodearnest> lazypower, where will <layer>/unit_tests/* end up in the built charm dir structure?
[16:42] <lazypower> that dir will, yes
[16:42] <lazypower> but if there is say a <layer>/unit_tests/01-thing.py in both layers
[16:42] <lazypower> the top most layer will override the 01-thing.py in the lower layer
[16:42] <bloodearnest> right
[16:47] <lazypower> bloodearnest - might also be worth the effort to ping the list with that question, and shake out some outliers that have thought but haven't asked yet
[16:47] <jrwren> tvansteenburgh: thanks.
[16:49] <bloodearnest> lazypower, by default, I assume charm build will merge all non-special directories in the final output?
[16:50] <bloodearnest> where special I guess = reactive, maybe hooks?
[16:54] <lazypower> bloodearnest, when merging, it still overwrites unless its metadata.yaml or config.yaml
[16:57] <bloodearnest> lazypower, ack
[17:22] <jose> marcoceppi: ping re: PSA
[17:23] <marcoceppi> jose: yes
[17:23] <jose> marcoceppi: is there currently a list of charms that are holding that hardcoded pattern? if so, is it public? I'd like to go in and fix some of those if possible
[17:23] <jose> or do some MPs
[17:24] <marcoceppi> not yet, we may be producing one for work with code-in
[17:24] <jose> oh awesome
[20:16] <asanjar> kwmonroe: sorry pal, i thought you had it
[20:16] <kwmonroe> no worries asanjar -- i was building myself out of sparktc github.. pre-built bins are fine by me!
[20:47] <tvansteenburgh> jrwren: almost http://reports.vapour.ws/charm-test-details/charm-bundle-test-parent-3834
[20:48] <jrwren> tvansteenburgh: thanks for the notice. *grumble* at it failing still :)
[21:17] <stokachu> so for actions.yaml the example schema https://jujucharms.com/docs/1.25/authors-charm-actions shows the use of compression.type=gzip, how does juju know that those properties are mapped to kind and quality?
[21:18] <stokachu> and what is the format for defining both the compression kind and quality, is it compession.type=gzip,0?
[21:41] <marcoceppi> stokachu: that's example fail
[21:42] <marcoceppi> stokachu: it should be compression.kind=gzip in the example
[21:51] <stokachu> marcoceppi: ah!
[21:51] <stokachu> now that makes sense
[21:52] <cory_fu> Hey, so I have a proposal for charm layers that I'd like to get feedback on.
[21:52] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: shoot
[21:53] <cory_fu> We'd been recommending base, runtime, etc. layers use yaml files for config options. But this could lead to a lot of small yaml files with various names. So I was thinking instead we could have an "options" section in layer.yaml
[21:54] <cory_fu> So you'd have layer.yaml contain: includes: ['layer:apache-php']; options: apache: packages: [...]
[21:54] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: oh, I like that, then what every key under option would be automatically prefixed?
[21:54] <cory_fu> Instead of having a separate apache.yaml
[21:54] <stokachu> created a PR https://github.com/juju/docs/pull/751 for that doc fix
[21:54] <cory_fu> Automatically prefixed?
[21:55] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: well, my thought was layers that presented options would provide jsonschema in them so that it'd be explicit
[21:56] <marcoceppi> ie, apache-php layer would define the schema which it supported
[21:56] * marcoceppi strawmans
[21:56] <cory_fu> That sounds intriguing. What would that look like?
[21:57] <cory_fu> Charm-tools could do the validation, then, at build time, too
[21:57] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: right
[21:59] <stokachu> heres my ghost charm using the latest wheelhouse support https://jujucharms.com/u/adam-stokes/ghost/trusty/8
[21:59] <marcoceppi> bleh, the apache-php layer doesn't quite fit the mold, but almost done
[21:59] <stokachu> went from 334 files to 72 \o/
[21:59] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: give me 10 min, otp
[22:00] <stokachu> though im not sure why the revisions aren't being updated to match what is in bzr
[22:29] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Still otp?
[22:29] <marcoceppi> yes
[22:29] <cory_fu> kk
[22:31] <cory_fu> stokachu: Revisions on jujucharms.com don't match bzr revisions because the charm revision tracks number of times ingested, which happens at periodic intervals and could include many bzr revs
[22:32] <cory_fu> Once we have `juju publish`, the charm revs will make a lot more sense, since it will track how many times you ran `juju publish`
[22:52] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: https://gist.github.com/marcoceppi/ca36655cb917b16d0681
[22:52] <marcoceppi> something like that?
[22:53] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: actually, just updated it
[22:56] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: I like that a lot
[22:56] <cory_fu> I also like that Alot
[22:56] <marcoceppi> I hug Alot
[22:57] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: the "parent" key would just be the layer name. I'm not sure how this would work for the sites key other than make sites an open-ended object
[22:57] <marcoceppi> and maybe replace "provides" with "defines" as provides is used in the charm ecosystem
[22:57] <marcoceppi> best not to conflate the two
[22:57] <cory_fu> Agreed on the last bit
[22:57] <adam_g> ERROR error checking if provisioned: subprocess encountered error code 1 <- is there any way to get debug info on the subprocess failure ?
[22:58] <cory_fu> jsonschema doesn't have support for validated lists?
[22:58] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: no idea
[22:58] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: apparently it does
[23:00] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: since we already use jsonschema for actions.yaml it'd be great to keep that pattern going with this and maybe convince core that config.yaml should move to it as well ;)
[23:00] <cory_fu> Agreed
[23:00] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: either way, I like the idea. It gives better visibility into the layer and provides a build time lint for validation, +1
[23:07] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Can you point me to an example of how jsonschema is used to use definitions in actions.yaml to validate params (or a similar example)?
[23:08] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: you mean the golang libraries, or how it looks as an implementation?
[23:08] <cory_fu> How it looks as an implementation
[23:08] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: the apache-plugin charm would be a good start ;)
[23:09] <cory_fu> Specifically, I'm wondering how the action.yaml contents are used as / injected into a schema
[23:09] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: they are the schema, each parent item defines a params and that params is the schema
[23:09] <marcoceppi> we'd remove the parent key (action name) and just have a schema, more or less what's in the gist
[23:10] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: O
[23:10] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I'd imagine this would come into play eventuall, https://pypi.python.org/pypi/jsonschema but maybe I'm not understanding the question
[23:11] <cory_fu> So, looking at the example in that last link, the contents of "properties" is what we'd be filling in, right?
[23:11] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: no, not quite
[23:11] <cory_fu> So I guess we can just wrap it in {'type': 'object', 'properties': schema}
[23:12] <stokachu> cory_fu: ah ok
[23:12] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: let me try to produce a quick py example
[23:16] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: Alas, I have to run, but send me the pastebin when you have it done. I think I'm seeing it now, but I'm not certain
[23:37] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: I wrote my thoughts at the bottom of the gist: https://gist.github.com/marcoceppi/ad318d081e3b30857819
[23:40] <marcoceppi> cory_fu: if you'd like I can open an issue on charm-tools to discuss further
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.423586
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-30-#xubuntu
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[02:35] <OvenWerk1> With regards to whiskermenu, where might I find more documentation? I am looking to see if (like the standard menu) I can use another menu rather than the system menu.
[02:36] <OvenWerk1> That is, can I have more than one whiskermenu with different sets of items?
[02:41] <OvenWerk1> Ahh, settings.cpp says there is a custom-menu-file=* that can go in the rc file.
[02:46] <OvenWerk1> Next question, how do I set the config file for different whisker menu instances.
[04:49] <xubuntu54w> wifi problem
[04:49] <xubuntu54w> no detected
[05:01] <SlidingHorn> !wifi | xubuntu54w
[05:02] <SlidingHorn> oh, they left, sorry
[07:23] <Hund> lol. Poor guy, didn't get any help after a whole minute of waiting.
[07:23] <Hund> :P
[20:22] <ronin> what is a good terminal emulator with a support for changing the char encoding
[20:22] <ronin> the default one cannot handle that
[20:28] <knome> ronin, no? not even from terminal -> set encoding?
[20:32] <ronin> hmm maybe mine is old versionthen
[20:32] <ronin> dont have it
[20:32] <ronin> 0.4.8
[20:32] <knome> yes...
[20:32] <ronin> thanks for the info though
[20:33] <knome> which xubuntu version are you running?
[20:33] <ronin> 12.04
[20:34] <knome> you are running an EOL, unsupported version then
[20:34] <ronin> yes i should upgrade :(
[20:34] <knome> it would be fair that you did that before asking for more app suggestions
[20:34] <ronin> it's been working perfectly though
[20:35] <ronin> knome, yup
[20:39] <ronin> im sorry, i didnt realize it was EOL version
[21:30] <Jens1112> hello
[21:32] <knome> hello
[21:32] <Jens1112> in the software center of xubuntu 14.04 ive ticked the checkbox trusty-proposed, it download new kernel (?), when reboot it is still 3,13 something, how can i advance to 4,0 etc.?
[21:37] <pleia2> heh
[21:38] <Unit193> I wouldn't enable proposed, you just want linux-generic-lts-wily or so.
[21:38] * pleia2 nods
[21:38] <pleia2> but netsplit saved us from answering the question!
[21:44] <Unit193> Jens1112: I wouldn't recommend you use -proposed, instead I'd install linux-generic-lts-wily.
[21:44] <Unit193> !hwe
[21:45] <Jens1112> sorry if i cant understand that much of a text, but ive followed the official guide iirc
[21:45] <Jens1112> it says enable trusty-proposed and you get new kernel etc
[21:46] <Unit193> That page says that nowhere...
[21:48] <Jens1112> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed its right at the beginning
[21:48] <Jens1112> but if you make it that hard to update kernel in lts i beter dont do
[21:49] <Jens1112> dont want to install tons of software
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.428845
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-uk
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[00:03] <daftykins> hey it's monday morning! my arrays are verifying!
[00:03] <diddledan> \o/
[00:03] <penguin42> daftykins: Shouldn't you go to sleep now so you don't hear them scream?
[00:04] <daftykins> =]
[00:04] <diddledan> what do you drive them with?
[00:04] <diddledan> standard linux mdraid?
[00:05] <daftykins> hell no, 3ware cards
[00:05] <diddledan> aah
[00:05] <diddledan> hardware raid ftw?
[00:05] <daftykins> the way i figure it, would i rather be digging through logs when the proverbial hits the fan, or seeing things handled nicely? :D
[00:06] <diddledan> lol
[00:08] <daftykins> also, you can keep so much more a cooler head when dealing with someone elses data than your own
[00:08] <penguin42> 3ware normally does work nicely
[00:08] <daftykins> mine are pretty ancient now, but they're lovely
[00:08] <penguin42> but I haven't had to build big raids for quite a few years now, and it's so common to get 6 SATA ports on board now
[00:08] <daftykins> 9650SEs, mine has 12 ports... clients has 16
[00:09] <daftykins> 6 x 2TB RAID5 here, 8 x 4TB RAID6 there
[00:48] <penguin42> is www.bbc.co.uk dead for others as well?
[00:50] <zmoylan-1i> connecting...
[00:52] <zmoylan-pi> and finally... loaded
[00:52] <penguin42> still taking it's time here
[00:57] <daftykins> yep struggling
[00:57] <daftykins> maybe it's all the freenode DoS traffic :P
[00:58] <penguin42> or telehouse trying to fix their power again
[01:01] <zmoylan-pi> or they switched their servers to 10 rasp pi zeros that came on magazine covers last week in reception...
[01:02] <penguin42> haha
[01:19] <penguin42> ooh, now it's moved to having the beeb 500 page - the nice one with the testpage
[01:56] <diddledan_> good video from john oliver : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGY6DqB1HX8
[01:56] <diddledan_> about mental health programs in americy
[01:57] <diddledan_> also, https://node-os.com/ ??
[01:58] <penguin42> noh god, js took over the world....
[02:28] <diddledan_> damned DDoS
[02:29] <diddledan_> poor freenode is really suffering the last couple days
[02:33] <penguin42> yeh
[02:34] <penguin42> beebs website still seems to be borked
[02:34] <diddledan_> beeb been down?
[02:34] <penguin42> is for me
[02:36] <diddledan_> seems ok heer
[02:36] <diddledan_> here
[02:36] <penguin42> diddledan_: I'm getting either a connection reset, or just a hang
[02:37] <diddledan_> for the homepage it gave an error momentarily before chrome reloaded it and got the correct page
[02:37] <diddledan_> if I wasn't paying attention I'd not have seen the error at all
[02:37] <penguin42> curious
[02:39] <penguin42> still broken on my other PC
[02:40] <penguin42> and bytemark
[03:17] * zmoylan-pi watches christina hendricks get married to captain mal...
[03:19] <diddledan_> who?
[03:19] <diddledan_> and who?
[03:19] <zmoylan-pi> go watch firefly
[03:19] <diddledan_> aah
[03:19] <diddledan_> I decided not to bother with that
[03:19] <zmoylan-pi> it is worth it
[03:20] <diddledan_> it was cancelled before I even started to watch it so I figured the stories would be left hanging so would be unsatisfying
[03:20] <zmoylan-pi> i felt the same way till i a gaming group i was in decided to watch an episode while we waited for a late arrival
[03:22] <zmoylan-pi> great show with great potential. and still has a huge fanbase with 14 episodes and 1 movie
[03:28] <zmoylan-pi> lots of lag your way diddledan_ ?
[03:28] <diddledan_> it's freenode
[03:29] <diddledan_> under a DDoS according to reports
[03:29] <zmoylan-pi> was only you this time so might not be ddos
[03:29] <diddledan_> hmm
[03:29] <diddledan_> I suck
[03:57] * zmoylan-pi puts on an episode of red dwarf with dwayne dibley... :-)
[04:01] <diddledan_> no, not dwayne dibley. I don't wanna be dwayne dibley!
[04:05] <diddledan_> time for a nap methinks
[07:55] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning
[08:31] <zmoylan-pi> hmm not net splits but some sort sort of attack it would seem
[08:32] <Myrtti> ddos since Thursday, with intermittent sunny patches
[08:32] <Myrtti> then it all goes downhill again
[08:32] <zmoylan-pi> and a chance of lag
[08:33] <zmoylan-pi> i keep getting error messages that freenode is full
[08:33] <Myrtti> yeah...
[08:34] <pwaring> lag has gone away for me now, it was terrible yesterday though
[08:35] <zmoylan-pi> not as much lag for me today but still got bounced and couldn't reconnnect this morning
[08:36] <Myrtti> ever so sorry 😕 :-(
[08:40] <MooDoo> no lag for me, and no need to apologise myrtti, it's not your fault is it :)
[08:41] <Myrtti> well I feel responsible as member of the staff. It sucks when the skids decide to ruin things
[08:42] <zmoylan-pi> definitely no need to apologise. i just see it as opportunity to learn more about irssi to make it get past the errors quicker :-)
[08:43] <zmoylan-pi> AND/OR find the eejits doing this and introduce them to the concept of annoyances...
[08:46] <MooDoo> zmoylan-pi: concept of annoyances = baseball bat :
[08:46] <MooDoo> :D
[08:47] <zmoylan-pi> that would be culturally inappropriate.... i'm not american... i prefer a hammer... :-P
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:11] <czajkowski> Aloha
[09:13] <davmor2> czajkowski: congrats by the way for getting on the board
[09:14] <czajkowski> davmor2: thank you
[09:14] <czajkowski> davmor2: how's life?
[09:15] <davmor2> czajkowski: busier than ever, but good thanks, oh and missing the caravan, you?
[09:19] <MooDoo> davmor2: I've not been to ours in yonks, must make an effort to get to bakewell more next yeat.
[09:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: I thought it was your dads?
[09:22] <czajkowski> davmor2: back afrter 4 days off so in my happy bubble
[09:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: we went every weekend because we got a seasonal pitch
[09:27] <MooDoo> davmor2: father in laws, but we didn't go much this year
[09:28] <zmoylan-pi> wasn't caravaning weather this year
[09:29] <MooDoo> it's a static, so isn't too bad in the rain
[09:30] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: there is no such thing as caravanning weather it's a home on wheels, when it rains you stay in like you do at home :P
[09:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: Mine isn't but It is getting big enough to be :)
[09:32] <MooDoo> it's bakewell, it's a lovely break :)
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> and hope someone brought the travel scrabble and the scrabble...
[09:35] <davmor2> MooDoo: we got a seasonal at Ebury Hill it's like a 40 minute drive away but it is so peaceful :)
[09:37] <davmor2> MooDoo: it's nice because you feel refreshed after a weekend away :)
[09:42] <MooDoo> definately, nothing like a full english on the verander in the sunshine :)
[09:42] <bashrc_> decadence!
[09:44] <davmor2> bashrc_: I think you mean Luxury! then you burst into when I were lad you had no sunshine you were up before the sun and home after it were gone
[09:46] * bashrc_ resets days since four yorkshiremen sketch counter
[09:48] * davmor2 tries to break bashrc_ counter, When I were a Lad you had no counters if the number were bigger than the number of fingers you could count it anyway
[09:48] <davmor2> s/could/couldn't
[10:04] <zmoylan-pi> hmmm, listening to radio item about sales of sonic hedgehog games and megadrives been on the up...
[10:06] <SuperMatt> yes, I heard about that
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> i was never into sega but might be worth a look
[10:08] <SuperMatt> tbh, I have sonic on steam, don't need a megadrive to play it
[10:22] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Computer Security Day! 😃
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> it is the day after the nsa promised to stop one of their spying programs...
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> promise this time they mean it... ::wink wink::
[10:24] <davmor2> JamesTait: I give you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k07cflKCl-Y
[10:34] <davmor2> JamesTait: I think that is a good enough reason to want security right :)
[10:37] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's not my usual thing, but I'm not disliking it. 😉
[10:45] <MooDoo> yay hackers
[10:45] <MooDoo> lol "nsa: yes we'll stop" lol ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[10:47] <zmoylan-pi> the soundtrack is the reason i bought the dvd, honest guv... :-)
[10:48] <zmoylan-pi> it's my 3rd favourite hacker movie...
[10:48] <zmoylan-pi> been so bad it's good sorta thing
[10:57] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: yeah right Angelina Jolie had nothing to do with it honest gov'nor
[10:58] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: sneakers and swordfish are they in there?
[10:58] <zmoylan-pi> i fancied her risc laptop more :-)
[10:58] <zmoylan-pi> #2 sneakers. never seen swordfish but have heard enough not to be bothered...
[11:00] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: Swordfish isn't that bad if you just treat it like all standard hollywood spy/thriller/action/hacker films you know complete fabrications
[11:01] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: what's number 1 then
[11:02] <zmoylan-pi> you won't have seen it, it turns up everytime there's a big discussion on hacker movies. it has no computers... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091464/
[11:02] <zmoylan-pi> if you watch it you'll 1) agree it is a hacker movie 2) has an awesome soundtrack 3) laugh out loud
[11:03] <MooDoo> sneakers is great - no more secrets :)
[11:04] <zmoylan-pi> seetec astronomy
[11:04] <MooDoo> :)
[11:04] <zmoylan-pi> it's a wonderful movie but still only #2 on my hackers movie list
[11:04] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: looks more like D.A.R.Y.L
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> watch it and then tell me i'm wrong :-)
[11:05] <MooDoo> I like hackers, sneakers, antitrust
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> i think i have anti trust on dvd, it was ok
[11:05] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: you're wrong, fullstop but I'll try and see it :)
[11:06] <davmor2> MooDoo: anitrust is just hackers 3 which makes me wonder why I haven't seen hackers 2 :)
[11:06] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: ex-mechina is good
[11:21] <awilkins> I love that movie! The whole car-that-splits-in-two-for-greater-backstreet-agility thing is ace
[11:21] <zmoylan-pi> shhhh!!!! spoliers!!!!
[11:22] <awilkins> There's a picture of it on the IMDB page.
[11:22] <zmoylan-pi> i know, but shhhhh
[11:22] <zmoylan-pi> and not done in cgi either...
[11:55] <davmor2> awilkins: Condorman did that too, and in bond it had a horse that turned into a plane :P
[11:56] <MooDoo> blimey condorman, that's a blast from the past :D
[11:56] <foobarry> dr who. can i discuss an issue
[11:56] <foobarry> condorman was the first film we had on vhs
[11:57] <MooDoo> foobarry: you have an issue with dr who?
[11:57] <zmoylan-pi> first film i had on vhs was life of brian. an illegal copy as it was banned in ireland...
[11:57] <foobarry> 2 billion years of skulls.
[11:57] <foobarry> probably 100 billion skulls
[11:57] <awilkins> davmor2, To be fair, it was just a horses ass that turned into a plane
[11:57] <foobarry> i think the castle would no longer be there
[11:57] <davmor2> MooDoo: I remember every film I ever watched it's worrying
[11:57] <MooDoo> davmor2: you're watching classics :)
[11:58] <foobarry> just covered in skulls
[11:58] <foobarry> no sea
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> the first film i stopped watching it was so bad... lost in space
[11:58] <MooDoo> it's gallifray, bigger on the inside tech :)
[11:58] <davmor2> MooDoo: No I remember condorman from the cinema it was that long ago
[11:59] <MooDoo> first film i saw at the cinema was the last starfighter :D
[12:11] <davmor2> MooDoo: first film I saw at the Cinema was Starwars Episode v my Mom is a Harrisonford fan, so indiana jones, starwars, blade runner all at the cinema
[12:14] <zmoylan-pi> the first film i saw in cinema was darby o'gill and the little people in very early 1970s
[12:31] <MooDoo> :)
[12:38] <foobarry> my first film was empire strikes back
[12:38] <foobarry> i was 5.
[12:39] <foobarry> this chrimstas i will be taking my son for the first time. he is 5.
[12:39] <foobarry> the film? STAR WARS
[12:39] <foobarry> the circle is complete
[12:47] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: man you're old
[12:48] <davmor2> foobarry: as long as he stays on the side of jedi's it's fine
[12:50] <foobarry> i did
[13:01] <davmor2> foobarry: That way leads to the darkside it does, full of windows and apples it is, no need for weapons, just a usb stick with ubuntu on it
[13:09] <zmoylan-pi> if i had to peg an os for yoda i'd put him down as an os/2 user :-)
[13:10] <awilkins> An elegant weapon, from a more civilized age
[13:11] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: No os/2 is more a captain kirk/scotty thing what with all that warp
[13:12] <awilkins> Yoda is all about commands that have a --force option
[13:12] <zmoylan-pi> and klingon and ferengi versions
[13:12] <penguin42> forth yoda is
[13:13] * davmor2 is waiting for the starbucks and costa use the froth cups on starwars release
[13:14] <penguin42> ouch
[13:14] <zmoylan-pi> it'll be star wars on everything for months in a few weeks
[13:15] <davmor2> penguin42: don't act like it won't happen ;)
[13:15] * penguin42 sighs
[13:17] <davmor2> penguin42: it'll be may the froth be with you, or use the froth, guaranteed
[13:18] <penguin42> davmor2: You should register the domain now
[13:25] <andylockran> afternoon peeps
[13:33] <diddledan_> https://grahamcluley.com/2015/11/hello-barbie-brings-smiles-kids-nightmares-privacy-advocates/
[13:35] <zmoylan-pi> helping kids get used to the idea of no privacy
[13:37] <awilkins> Slashdot ran an article about people haxx0ring them to spy on your kids
[13:38] <awilkins> Totally missing the point that THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FOR
[14:25] <mapps> yay
[14:25] <mapps> got my router user/pass
[14:25] <mapps> ;D
[14:46] <diddledan_> what was it?
[14:46] <zmoylan-pi> 1234... :-)
[14:46] <diddledan_> hunter2?
[14:47] <davmor2> password
[14:47] <davmor2> admin
[14:47] <davmor2> Admin
[14:52] <mapps> umeecpe was pass
[14:52] <mapps> heh
[14:57] <MooDoo> diddledan_: what was that password I only see ******** ;)
[15:03] <diddledan_> this got assigned to someone. I wonder if that means my idea is being actively worked on? https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH/issues/35
[15:03] <zmoylan-pi> fingers crossed
[15:05] <diddledan_> I'm actually quite proud of the thoroughness I put into writing that issue
[15:06] <zmoylan-pi> covered all the ground from what i could see
[15:06] <diddledan_> oftentimes when I file a bug/improvement I do as little effort as possible :-p
[15:06] <diddledan_> I'm inherently laxy
[15:06] <diddledan_> lazy
[15:07] <zmoylan-pi> a rolled up newspaper hitting the developer on the nose *IS* a legitimate bug report :-D
[15:07] <pwaring> I put in a lot of effort, which is why I get annoyed when people close something as WONTFIX
[15:07] <pwaring> But I have a trick to avoid that now
[15:07] <pwaring> Make first bug report a trivial documentation fix - if that's ignored do not contribute further
[15:08] <diddledan_> lol, zmoylan-pi, that sounds fun
[15:08] <zmoylan-pi> it's suggesting they're like a happy puppy sitting beside a big pile of poo that they made...
[15:10] <zmoylan-pi> bad developer *smack*
[15:13] <penguin42> heck it's wet out there
[15:14] * zmoylan-pi checks forecast for the week and only friday looks like it'll be a no rain day...
[15:14] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: where do live the sahara?
[15:14] <mapps> hmm
[15:14] <diddledan_> I haven't opened the curtains
[15:15] <zmoylan-pi> dublin. you don't get 40 shades of green without a little rain
[15:15] <mapps> can someone try my ip 1194 forwarded port but cant connect
[15:16] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: You'd think Manchester would be greener then
[15:17] <mapps> piVPN Port-Range 1194 1194 UDP eth0.v1804 192.168.1.13
[15:17] <mapps> hm
[15:17] <penguin42> oh just UDP?
[15:17] <mapps> ya
[15:17] <davmor2> pfff 50 shades of grey was named after the writer saw this sky
[15:17] <mapps> i set the proto as UDP in server conf
[15:19] <mapps> wonder if its to do with the nat interface it was set at
[15:19] <mapps> i left it as default
[15:19] <mapps> eth0.v1804 or eth0.v804.ppp
[15:19] <mapps> ugh
[15:20] <mapps> yea need 2nd i think
[15:21] <mapps> nope still nothing;/
[15:23] <mapps> anyone got any suggestions? openvpn is running and both server/client config looks ok
[15:26] <penguin42> use TCP :-)
[15:26] <diddledan_> what are you trying to get running?
[15:26] <mapps> just enabled DMZ on the pi IP and still cant connect
[15:26] <mapps> trying to forward 1194 to the pi so i can connect to my vpn from my phone
[15:27] <diddledan_> UDP doesn't "connect" because it's UDP
[15:27] <davmor2> mapps: is the port actually open on the pi
[15:28] <mapps> davmor2 should be only iptables rule is iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.1.13
[15:28] <diddledan_> mapps: iptables -L INPUT --verbose | pastebinit
[15:29] <diddledan_> (pastebinit is available on pi?)
[15:29] <mapps> eya
[15:29] <mapps> *sec and yea
[15:30] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339958/
[15:31] <diddledan_> ok, your policy is set to accept - that's what I was wanting to verify
[15:31] <diddledan_> hmm
[15:31] <diddledan_> the daemon is running ? :-p
[15:31] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339959/
[15:32] <diddledan_> </mr stating mcobvious>
[15:32] <mapps> and yep
[15:32] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339961/
[15:32] <mapps> can see it's running
[15:32] <diddledan_> does your openvpn.log show the connection arriving?
[15:32] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339960/
[15:32] <mapps> sec
[15:33] <diddledan_> oops
[15:33] <diddledan_> you'll need to regen your certs
[15:33] <jpds> mapps: Oh, thanks for the private key
[15:33] <mapps> nope nothing at all
[15:33] <mapps> haha it doesnt matter for now;p
[15:33] <mapps> cant connect anyway;)
[15:33] <mapps> il regen later
[15:34] <mapps> everything looks fine though? server/client config..iptables rules
[15:34] <mapps> ipv4 forwarding enabled in sysctl.conf
[15:34] <diddledan_> yeah
[15:34] <jpds> I don't understand what this SNAT is about
[15:35] <jpds> All I have on my VPN is a MASQUERADE rule
[15:35] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339963/
[15:35] <mapps> would nmap show udp?
[15:36] <diddledan_> no it wouldn't
[15:36] <jpds> mapps: netstat -lnptu
[15:36] <diddledan_> udp can't be verified due to being connectionless
[15:36] <mapps> ssh doesnt work..even though it says open? and ive set a DMZ up?
[15:36] <diddledan_> are you sure your router can forward udp ports?
[15:37] <mapps> yea it allows it
[15:37] <mapps> so why cant i even ssh in...says port open but wont work
[15:38] <mapps> could it be their end?
[15:39] <diddledan_> your router might not do NAT-reflection, so if you're trying to ssh to your own public IP that might be the issue
[15:39] <penguin42> mapps: Because the ssh is tcp ?
[15:39] <mapps> but i set a DMZ
[15:39] <mapps> can someone try ssh to my ip then please
[15:41] <jpds> mapps: Can I have your private ssh key?
[15:42] <mapps> i dont use ssh keys
[15:42] <jpds> ...
[15:42] <mapps> ?:|Z
[15:43] <mapps> can someone please help
[15:43] <diddledan_> :();:|:
[15:43] <mapps> diddledan_ ??:(
[15:44] <diddledan_> !danger
[15:44] <diddledan_> ^
[15:45] <mapps> this sucks, no idea why i cant connect
[15:45] <diddledan_> it's a forkbomb
[15:45] <mapps> if it was their end, nmap wouldnt show as open would it?
[15:46] <penguin42> diddledan_: It's impressively short
[15:46] <diddledan_> if nmap shows it open then it's open
[15:46] <diddledan_> penguin42: I think I got it wrong
[15:46] <mapps> so if its open why cant i ssh even? i tried from my phone uing 3g
[15:46] <mapps> as you mentioned nat reflection
[15:46] <mapps> this is annoying:)
[15:47] <diddledan_> penguin42: I think it should be :(){:|:};:
[15:47] <diddledan_> again heed the warning of lubotu3
[15:47] <diddledan_> !danger
[15:48] <Seeker`> diddledan_: why are you writing out forkbombs in here?
[15:48] <diddledan_> Seeker`: it was a response to a weird series of characters that mapps wrote
[15:49] <Seeker`> yeah, don't.
[15:49] <mapps> maybe il reboot it
[15:49] <mapps> although that wont do anything
[15:49] <mapps> lol
[15:50] <davmor2> mapps: are you reading the right guide for the os you have on the device for setting this all up or are you making it up as you go along
[15:51] <mapps> lol yes im not a fool
[15:51] <mapps> switched back to 3g and it's working
[15:51] <mapps> so diddledan_ could be right?
[15:51] <mapps> id never ever had that before, an issue connecting to the public ip locally:)
[15:52] <mapps> yep and vpn working
[15:52] <mapps> wow, how odd
[15:53] <Azelphur> Anyone handy with monit? I've looked at the documentation on this page for pushover notifications, https://mmonit.com/wiki/MMonit/PushoverNotification (scroll to the bottom)
[15:54] <davmor2> mapps: yay diddledan_ good guesswork dude ;)
[15:54] <Azelphur> and I've wrote something similar for pushbullet, http://pastebin.com/QDhGLtcE but whenever I get an alert, I literally just get "$MONIT_SERVICE - $MONIT_DESCRIPTION" sent
[15:55] <mapps> :D
[15:55] <mapps> has anyone else had that before where you cant connect to the public ip locally?
[15:56] <davmor2> mapps: I have on an old router but not for a while but then I run openwrt on ip-link routers pretty much since :)
[15:57] <mapps> this is just the router i got given when i signed up to umee;)
[15:57] <Azelphur> Oo, this is actually officially now a shell scripting error
[15:57] <Azelphur> I stuck echo "$MONIT_HOST" | wall in the shell script, it walls "server", so the variables are definitely set
[15:59] <popey> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06rkc60 was interesting to listen to. maybe of interest to some here... "John Harris from the Guardian talks to university researcher, Penny Andrews, who, after a difficult childhood and adolescence, was finally diagnosed as autistic in her early thirties"
[16:00] <Seeker`> I've got a friend that was officially diagnosed at 26
[16:02] <Azelphur> I was diagnosed pretty late myself, didn't get diagnosed until 16
[16:03] <davmor2> I didn't get diagnosed with dyslexia till I was in Highschool and a supply teacher decided there was something up with me being in top set maths and science and bottom set English and French
[16:04] * penguin42 should probably get himself checked at some point, I'm fairly sure I tick most of the boxes
[16:05] <Seeker`> penguin42: There's a difference between "not being very social" and "autistic"
[16:05] <penguin42> Seeker`: Yes, I realise that
[16:06] <davmor2> ah that is the polite way of putting it thanks Seeker`
[16:07] <Azelphur> The take home here is that UKs mental health services are fairly useless, I've had some real bad experiences with them
[16:16] <Azelphur> In other news, people noticed the 1TB Samsung EVOs on Amazon? so cheap, I picked one up
[16:18] <Azelphur> I've been looking for 2TB HDD deals too, nobody has any good deals on them, seen 1TB, 3TB, 4TB and 5TB, SSDs of all sizes, and no 2TB deals :<
[16:19] <penguin42> the flash prices seem to have fallen through the floor
[16:21] <Azelphur> I'm having fun this black friday, my boss is late paying me so he gets to buy me whatever I want off Amazon at purse 50% rates until he pays me
[16:21] <Azelphur> so I got that 1TB Samsung drive for £120
[16:22] <marshmn> hi all; I have a few games which I *believe* were developed using the 'Unity 3d' cross-platform games engine; these seem to run pretty slowly on Linux though; does anyone have similar experience and/or know tips to make them playable?
[16:22] <davmor2> penguin42: they will, they should get cheaper too, more bulk of chips less overall cost they will limit it at some point to make the maximum amount of profit
[16:23] <Azelphur> marshmn: have you tried other games? do you get poor performance across the board, or only in Unity?
[16:23] <marshmn> Azelphur: I have other games which seem more native and which seem to be fine; the machine is quite powerful too (i7 w/16GB RAM and Nvidia 750M)
[16:23] <penguin42> davmor2: The 3d structure stuff might have helped recently, but it's more process steps so I'm not sure how much price wise it helps
[16:24] <Azelphur> marshmn: are you using Unity?
[16:24] <marshmn> not Unity desktop, no
[16:24] <marshmn> I'm in Gnome
[16:24] <Azelphur> Are you using a desktop with a compositor?
[16:24] <marshmn> how to tell?
[16:25] <davmor2> Azelphur: he is using gnome so it is using clutter iirc
[16:25] <Azelphur> marshmn: hmm, do you have transparent windows anywhere?
[16:26] <marshmn> Azelphur: I can run terminal with a transparent background if that's what you mean?
[16:26] <Azelphur> marshmn: probably have composite enabled then, somewhere there will be a setting to turn that off
[16:26] <Azelphur> you loose a few shiny effects, but composite hurts game performance
[16:27] <Azelphur> Look for Window manager settings, Composite , etc. Dunno where it is in gnome, maybe someone else does.
[16:27] <marshmn> Azelphur: ok, that's interesting, will look into it
[16:27] <marshmn> ta
[16:30] <diddledan_> does anyone know about https://atraci.github.io/Atraci-website/ ?
[16:31] <diddledan_> aah it uses youtube
[16:31] <diddledan_> I was wondering where they source their catalogue from
[17:17] <Laney> bleh it looks grim outside
[17:17] <awilkins> I went outside. It WAS grim.
[17:18] <awilkins> However, as reward for my persistence, I now have a box of stroopwafel
[17:19] <Laney> was intending to ride into town
[17:20] <davmor2> awilkins: you get waffles for having a strop man there is something wrong with this world ;)
[17:20] <Laney> but that is up and down TWO whole hills
[17:21] <Laney> http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
[17:21] <davmor2> Laney: they're call sleeping policemen, or speed humps, not hills honest gov ;)
[17:24] <Seeker`> awilkins: gief
[19:18] <knightwise> hey everyone
[19:18] <knightwise> anyone in ?
[19:20] <DJones> Nope
[19:20] <zmoylan-pi> no one here but us chickens
[19:21] <saur0> i'm not here
[19:29] <diddledan_> quck
[19:29] <diddledan_> quack
[19:31] <penguin42> nope, definitely not
[20:32] <diddledan_> I'm confused how a person at chromium thinks that the bug I filed isn't the bug I filed and therefore I should file a bug: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=557087
[20:33] <diddledan_> #6 was me, as was the original bug report
[20:35] <diddledan_> oh well, I guess I'll file an exact copy?
[20:36] <penguin42> diddledan_: I guess it's a simpler case
[20:36] <diddledan_> but it's the exact thing that I wanted fixed
[20:36] <diddledan_> why should I have to file a second bug to get the thing fixed that I've already filed a bug to get the thing fixed?
[20:37] <penguin42> diddledan_: It sounds to me like you're asking for it to 1) Prompt the user and 1a) Proide the cert if asked for 1b) connet anyway if the user says no
[20:37] <penguin42> diddledan_: It sounds like they're asking for a bug filing for just 'connect anyway without the client cert'
[20:37] <penguin42> diddledan_: Which without understanding the details of SSL, does sound simpler
[20:38] <penguin42> anyway, time to poweroff brain, back to work tomorrow
[21:23] <DeaDSouL> hi, i have a lycamobile number... and I would like to purchase a voucher from their website.. there a lot of categories and plans... which one allows me to send an internation SMS ?
[21:25] <directhex> um........... i don't know?
[21:26] <diddledan_> ask them?
[21:26] <directhex> like, why does this seem like something anyone in here would know?
[21:26] <diddledan_> what is lycamobile, anyway?
[21:28] <directhex> diddledan_: they basically do PAYG SIMs for people whose families are far outside the EU, so need mostly international calls
[21:29] <directhex> you'll find posters for them in most independent corner shops or ethnic food stores
[21:29] <diddledan_> aah
[21:30] <DeaDSouL> directhex: i'm out of uk now.. and i need to purchase voucher online... but i don;t know which one should i get ?
[21:32] <intrbiz> DeaDSouL: I doubt anyone here will know
[21:42] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: this is not a shop.
[21:42] <intrbiz> is it me, or is this channel quiet of late
[21:43] <daftykins> err, doesn't feel like anything beyond usual
[21:43] <intrbiz> hmm, fair enough
[21:43] <intrbiz> semed busier earlier in the summer
[21:44] <daftykins> probably the winter blues and preparations for Christmas for all the family folk :)
[21:44] <intrbiz> true
[21:44] <intrbiz> TBF I've been pretty crap at being online the last few months
[21:46] <daftykins> i'm keeping quite the funky hours myself :(
[21:48] <intrbiz> yes, my monday mornings are all to funky hours these days
[22:02] <DeaDSouL> intrbiz: thanks
[22:02] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: really ?!
[22:02] <daftykins> indeed!
[22:03] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: smart boy
[22:04] <daftykins> hey DeaDSouL let's go and ask in ##windows about good car insurance providers
[22:04] <daftykins> i feel like i'm on a roll
[22:05] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: i asked this channel because of the "uk" ... i thought someone knows
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-de
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[08:51] <stevieh> was nimmt man denn am einfachsten, um mehrere distro usb isos auf einen Stick zu bekommen?
[08:51] <dadrc> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/
[08:51] <dadrc> bisschen gebastel ist es immer
[08:52] <k1l> Loetmichel: fragen :)
[08:53] <stevieh> dadrc: das klingt aber nicht nach UEFI unterstützung, oder?
[08:53] <dadrc> keine ahnung
[08:55] <stevieh> das "Multisystem" klingt auch nicht schlecht... mal anschauen
[08:55] <dadrc> Ich hab ja sowas: http://www.zalman.com/global/product/Product_Read.php?Idx=674
[08:56] <stevieh> uiui. das klingt nicht schlecht, aber für meine Zwecke wohl zu arg
[13:35] <stevieh> komisch, bei meiner gattin auf dem 14.04 rechner seh ich kein Menü im firefox...
[17:29] <Loetmichel> stevieh: YUMI
[17:29] <Loetmichel> braucht allerdings ein windows zum "installieren" aufm stick
[17:29] <Loetmichel> sprich das YUMI is eine .exe
[17:30] <Loetmichel> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[17:32] <stevieh> Loetmichel: ah... ne, hab multiboot gemacht, läuft schon
[17:33] <stevieh> und sachen, wo man ein win für braucht, kommen mir eh nicht ins haus :-)
[17:34] <Catyagin> Huhu!Welchen Virenscanner sollte ich nehmen, um verdächtige Windows Dateien zu prüfen?
[17:34] <David1977> Ist mir auch mal empfohlen worden. Nod32 von ESET
[17:34] <jokrebel> clamav
[17:36] <jokrebel> Catyagin: Ausführliche Infos findest Du in https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Sicherheitskonzepte und https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Virenscanner
[17:36] <Catyagin> David1977, das ist irgendwie nicht im Synaptic, kann das sein?
[17:38] <Miyamoto> Moin zusammen!
[17:38] <David1977> Sorry...ich habe mich vertan. Ich hatte damals nach einer Software für Windows hier nachgefragt. Tut mir leid, wenn ich da gerade verwirrt habe
[17:39] <jokrebel> Catyagin: ließ die Links die ich postete
[17:40] <Miyamoto> Hat noch jemand seit dem Upgrade von Kubuntu Vivid auf Wily das Problem, daß der LightDM beim Systemstart crasht und der grafische Login damit unmöglich wird? Nach Login auf der Konsole und 'startx' geht der Desktop, aber das ist doch etwas lästig so :-/
[17:43] <stevieh> Miyamoto: ja, das hatten wir neulich, habs wieder vergessen, war - "wie immer" ein Rechteproblem beim xauth
[17:44] <stevieh> schau mal hier ins log...
[17:47] <Miyamoto> stevieh: Grobe Idee, wann das gewesen sein könnte? Die Logs sind ja nicht gut zu durchsuchen...
[17:49] <stevieh> ein zwei Wochen her. Stichwort ist, dem session manager zuzuschauen, der hat spuckt den Fehler aus.
[17:51] <stevieh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/692577/ubuntu-15-10-boot-hangs-when-starting-lightdm
[17:51] <stevieh> der isses
[18:02] <Miyamoto> stevieh: Danke für den entscheidenden Hinweis mit dem Log des LightDM - es fehlte nur das Verzeichnis /var/lib/lightdm; nach der Erzeugung mit den korrekten Rechten läuft's jetzt :-)
[18:04] <stevieh> :-)
[18:04] <stevieh> da hat beim letzten Mal zwei Tage gedauert :-)
[18:24] <Catyagin> Weiß jemand zufällig, wie ich die Festplatte einer VM unter Virtualbox im Nachhinein vergrößern kann?
[18:34] <ppq> Catyagin, google mal nach "linux vdi vergrößern"
[18:34] * nagetier hat auch Infos über "vbox vhd vergrößern" gefunden
[18:35] <Catyagin> ppq, es is ein Windows Gast-System... hab eine Anleitung gefunden, von hinten durch die Brust ins Auge
[18:35] <Catyagin> http://www.smokinggun.de/2008/02/26/anleitung-mehr-speicherplatz-in-virtual-box/
[18:36] <nagetier> ich finde das hört sich zu VBox näher an - http://www.tecchannel.de/storage/tipps/2039511/festplatte_in_virtualbox_nachtraeglich_vergroessern/
[18:37] <nagetier> nur ist mir gerade nicht klar ob nicht auch das Dateisystem anschließend angepasst werden
[18:37] <ppq> na so komplex ist das nun wirklich nicht
[18:37] <ppq> ne, das fs muss man selber expandieren
[18:37] <nagetier> jau
[18:37] <ppq> aber mit einem windows gast ist das nur ein klick
[18:38] <Catyagin> Eins der Probleme ist, dass Virtualbox darauf besteht, einen etwaigen Klon des Systems (als Backup) auf meiner Linux Systemplatte anzulegen
[18:39] <Catyagin> die ist allerdinsg sehr klein (SSD), habt ihr eine Idee, ob das bei einer neueren version als 4.34 anders ist und man da ein anderes Volume für Klons wählen kann?
[18:40] <ppq> modifyhd only works only with the dynamic format variant ("dynamically allocated image").
[18:41] <ppq> hast du das als fixes image ersteltl?
[18:41] <nagetier> ok
[18:41] <ppq> wenn dynamisch, musst du da nichts klonen
[18:43] <Catyagin> ppq, den Klon will ich nur zur Sicherheit anlegen, falls irgendwas schief läuft
[18:44] <ppq> achso
[18:44] <ppq> dann mach das doch einfach manuell?
[18:44] <Catyagin> ppq, aber ist halt doof wenn ich dazu erst 25 GB oder wer weiß wie viel auf dem 120 GB SSD freischaufln muss, wo auf der Datenplatte x TB frei sind
[18:45] <ppq> .vdi wegsichern und gut
[18:45] <ppq> du machst dir das gerade unnötig kompliziert ^^
[18:45] <Catyagin> ppq, nein, Oracle hat das unnötig kompliziert gemacht, weil da keine Abfrage kommt, in welchem Verzeichnis man gern den Klon angelegt haben will.
[18:46] <Catyagin> ppq, ich HAB nun mal in der Regel keine 25 GB dort frei im home vz
[18:46] <ppq> wieso kopierst du die .vdi nicht einfach selbst?
[18:46] <ppq> das ist eine datei wie jede andere
[18:46] <Catyagin> ppq, das hab ich schon mal und die hab ich nicht wieder zum Laufen bekommen
[18:47] <Catyagin> ppq, erzähl das Oracle ;-)
[18:48] <Catyagin> ppq, ich hatte einen Klon erstellt, und DESSEN cdi auf die Datenplatte kopiert, und wieder zurück kopiert, und siehe - die geklonte VM sstartete nicht mehr
[18:48] <Catyagin> vdi
[19:18] <kirsten> hallo, folgendes Problem: ich habe eine hd mit 300 GB und eine SSD mit 250 GB. Meine Filmordner mit 200GB ist auf der hd mein Bilderordner mit 270 GB passt nicht auf die ssd. Kann man Ubuntu so einstellen, dass eide Platten als eine Platte betrachtet werden?
[19:26] <zerwas> kirsten: Wenn es dir den Aufwand wert ist und du glaubst, dass das Vereinen die beste Lösung ist, kannst du das mit LVM bewerkstelligen.
[19:28] <kirsten> naja, wüsstest du eine bessere LÖsung?
[19:28] <nagetier> kirsten, lvm könnte das.. mir wäre aber nur eine Möglichkeit bekannt indem du die vorhanden Daten auf eine weitere HDD auslagerst und die beiden vorhandenen bearbeitest. Dir ist aber schon klar, dass du somit den Speicherbereich deiner schnelle SSD mit der vergleichsweise langsamen HDD "koppeln" würdest? Ich würde davon abraten, auch fällt mit persönlich keine andere Möglichkeit ein.
[19:30] <kirsten> naja, ich könnte z.b. mehrer Unterordner meines Bilderordners auf die Hd auslagern. Ist aber nicht so elegant, weil es meine Ordnerstrucktur durcheinander bringt
[19:30] <koegs> einfach die bilder auf die HDD und die Filme auf die SSD
[19:31] <kirsten> problem ist, dass beide Ordner schnell wachsen...
[19:32] <koegs> dann geht dir der platz ja eh irgendwann aus und du solltest wahlweise in eine größere HDD oder SSD investieren
[19:32] <nagetier> gewagt, bei der Kapazität :)
[19:33] <kirsten> ja, ich denke , ich werden meinen Bilderordner "auseinander reissen"
[19:33] <David1977> wie schnell wachsen denn die Ordner und von welcher Größenordnung reden wir denn da? Ansonsten wäre vielleicht ein NAS grundlegend die bessere Alternative, oder?
[19:34] <kirsten> nas ist vorhanden.Aber diese beiden Ordner habe ich gerne immer auf meinem Laptop dabei
[19:34] <David1977> ok, dann habe ich nichts mehr hinzuzufügen ;)
[19:34] <kirsten> ok, danke
[19:48] <stevieh> 1tb ssd kostet auch nicht mehr die Welt :-)
[19:55] <nagetier> 1tb hdd, 2,5".. liegt imho bei unter 80€
[19:57] <David1977> Ja, aber doch keine SSD, oder?
[19:57] <nagetier> für Bilder und Videos?
[19:58] <David1977> Keine Ahnung...das war aber das, was stevieh meinte
[19:58] <nagetier> Ja, der scherzt ganz gerne :)
[20:35] <sky-2k> moinsen @all
[20:35] <sky-2k> na alles klar bei euch soweit?
[20:35] <sky-2k> kennt sich jemand eventuell hier ein bisschen mit saned aus?
[20:45] <jokrebel> keine Geduld die Leute heutzutage
[22:03] <morise> Nabend! Kurze frage zur Textausgabe in Ubuntu... habe ich was falsch gemacht oder wird nicht alles ins deutsche übersetzt?
[22:03] <bekks> Kannst du das konkrete Problem benennen? :)
[22:03] <k1l> morise: wo denn genau?
[22:04] <morise> z.b. bei Pidgin sthet in der Kontaktliste "Friends" "Phone Contacts" und "Kontakte"
[22:05] <morise> Oder bei XChat "List of Channels" und wenn ich drauf klicke steht im reiter "Channel-Liste"
[22:06] <k1l> die übersetzungen sind größtenteils von freiwilligen teams. und wenn die entwickler einige sachen anders nennen bei neuen versionen muss das wieder in aufwändiger arbeit angepasst werden.
[22:06] <zerwas> morise: Mit welchem Protokoll benutzt du denn Pidgin? Diese Listen werden z.B. von ICQ, Jabber, Facebook etc. angelegt, da kann Pidgin im Grunde nichts für
[22:07] <morise> Ahso.... hab ich mir auch gedacht... nur hätte ja sein können das ich etwas falsch eingestellt habe....
[22:07] <zerwas> morise: Nein, keine Sorge :)
[22:07] <morise> Bin auch recht neu in der im Linux/Ubunutu Universum! :-P
[22:07] <zerwas> morise: Was k1l sagt, gilt natürlich trotzdem
[22:09] <morise> Danke trotzdem..... nettes deutsch meinerseits "neu in der im" :-P
[22:18] <stevieh> argl, warum spricht mein Firefox kein deutsch?
[22:22] <ppq> stevieh, installier das paket firefox-locale-de
[22:40] <morise> Gibt es unter Ubuntu auch ein PDF Drucker?
[22:40] <zerwas> morise: Ja, klar
[22:41] <morise> Irgendein bestimmten? Ich sag mal ein "Standard"
[22:42] <zerwas> morise: wenn du auf Drucken gehst findest du den Punkt "In Datei drucken"
[22:43] <zerwas> morise: Aus welchem Programm heraus möchtest du denn in ein PDF drucken?
[22:43] <morise> AHA!!!!! Danke dir!
[22:43] <morise> War jetzt aus Thunderbird....
[22:44] <zerwas> Kein Problem :)
[23:07] <zerwas> Ich habe hier ein Image mit btrfs-Dateisystem mit @ und subvolume @home. Wenn ich die .img einfach mounte und dann ein chroot in /mnt/@ mache, habe ich innerhalb des chroot keinen Zugriff auf das subvolume @home (Eigentlich klar, liegt ja auch außerhalb des chroots in /mnt/@home)
[23:07] <zerwas> Wie kriege ich jetzt ein chroot, bei dem ich Zugriff aufs @home subvol habe?
[23:30] <zerwas> Naja, mit einem händischen mount --bind funktioniert es wahrscheinlich auch.
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-nz
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[19:13] <olly_> morning
[20:27] <ibeardslee> Anyone else in here getting the [email protected] emails?
[20:28] <ibeardslee> ajmitch: ^^ ?
[20:29] <ajmitch> yeah I'm seeing some
[20:30] <ajmitch> not that there's any legitimate email on the list
[20:33] <ibeardslee> yeah, looking at the list admin info at the moment trying to see if there is anything that can be done.
[20:34] <ibeardslee> also trying to recall what the 'official list' is supposed to be .. the lists.ubuntu.com or the launchpad thing
[20:35] <ibeardslee> cause one should die
[20:35] <ajmitch> afaik it's meant to be lists.ubuntu.com
[20:35] <ajmitch> or at least it was several years ago
[20:35] <ajmitch> I don't think you can really do much about the -owner traffic
[20:48] <ibeardslee> I'll have to wait for another one to see if it is being procmailed into my Lists/<listname> email directory or straight into my inbox
[22:20] <chilts> morning
[22:20] <chilts> after another morning/day/week of crap connections, my fibre is getting installed this afternoon
[22:20] <chilts> can't come soon enough
[22:33] <mwhudson> morning
[22:38] <ibeardslee> chilts: yay
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:31] <jjohansen> \o
[16:31] <tyhicks> hello
[16:31] <chrisccoulson> o/
[16:31] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Nov 30 16:31:19 2015 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:31] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:31] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:31] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:31] <tyhicks> Stefan Bader (smb) provided a debdiff for precise for xen
[16:31] <tyhicks> Andreas Cadhalpun provided a debdiff for wily for ffmpeg
[16:31] <tyhicks> Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :)
[16:31] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:32] <tyhicks> jdstrand: since you'll be in and out, let us know when you're "in"
[16:32] <tyhicks> mdeslaur: go ahead
[16:32] <mdeslaur> I'm on community this week
[16:32] <mdeslaur> I have a gnutls26 update to test and push out
[16:32] <mdeslaur> and I'm trying to reproduce an nss issue in xenial
[16:32] <mdeslaur> to do that, I'm trying to fix uvt to work properly with xenial
[16:33] <mdeslaur> and after that, I may work on some sudo updates that rebase xenial's version for older releases to finally fix the clock issue
[16:33] <mdeslaur> that's pretty much it...sbeattie, you're up
[16:33] <sbeattie> I'm on bug triage this week.
[16:34] <sbeattie> On the pie gcc front, I'm hip deep in kernel build process stuff, trying to figure out all the locations where to disable it.
[16:35] <sbeattie> I have an openjdk-6 update to test and push out, along with another package
[16:35] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: I saw a gcc-5 upload with some peculiar changelog entries...did it get enabled?
[16:36] <sbeattie> mdeslaur: oh, I'm pulling the latest upload down right now, I haven't looked at the changelog.
[16:36] <sbeattie> do ko sent me an email asking about stuff.
[16:37] <tyhicks> * Add --enable-default-pie option to GCC configure, taken from the trunk.
[16:37] <sbeattie> ah, woot!
[16:37] <tyhicks> nice :)
[16:38] <mdeslaur> does that mean it's on, or just that the option is added?
[16:38] <mdeslaur> because that's in the debian changelog part
[16:38] <mdeslaur> then there's "* Configure with --enable-default-pie on s390x."
[16:40] <sbeattie> yeah, it looks like it just got turned on for s390x. interesting
[16:41] <jjohansen> no chance for regressions there
[16:41] <sbeattie> anyway, I'll still need to deal with fallout from that, so, along with a shortish week (friday off), that + usual email and kernel triage will probably consume my week
[16:41] <sbeattie> tyhicks: you're up
[16:42] <tyhicks> I'm on cve triage
[16:42] <tyhicks> I need to send off my findings from my mapplauncherd review as well as the code and profile generation bits for confining the generic booster process
[16:42] <jdstrand> I'm in
[16:42] <tyhicks> jdstrand: go ahead
[16:43] <jdstrand> ok, I'm catching up from holiday
[16:43] <jdstrand> preparing for a sprint next week
[16:43] <jdstrand> have an embargoed item
[16:43] <jdstrand> and finishing up some policy work on touch and snappy that I started before the holiday
[16:43] <jdstrand> that's it from me
[16:44] <tyhicks> thanks
[16:45] <tyhicks> I also need to do snappy sprint prep
[16:45] <tyhicks> I have a review to do for the snapd socket access checks so that non-root processes can connect
[16:45] <tyhicks> and I'm still trying to get to unprivileged AppArmor policy loads inside of a user namespace
[16:45] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:46] <jjohansen> so I am primarily working on apparmor stacking this week
[16:46] <jjohansen> I have some ml followup to do, and some bug follow-up that could eat some time depending on testing
[16:47] <jjohansen> primarily bug 1446906, that I am following
[16:47] <tyhicks> jjohansen: could you send that fix to sarnold and myself for review?
[16:47] <jjohansen> the kt also has an apparmor related bug in 4.3 that they are looking at, they think it might be test related
[16:48] <sarnold> is that the caching timestamp bug?
[16:48] <jjohansen> tyhicks: yeah, I want to clean it up a bit first, but I will send it out. Note that its on top of the larger 25 patch series
[16:49] <tyhicks> ok
[16:49] <jjohansen> sarnold: no, it is to due with mediation of a file based unix domain socket that has been shutdown
[16:49] <sarnold> jjohansen: heh, sorry, I meant the one the KT reported that they think is test relatede
[16:50] <jjohansen> sarnold: not sure, I have just seen the mention of it and that brad is looking into it
[16:50] <jjohansen> so its on my radar but I don't have details yet
[16:50] <jjohansen> oh, I should also get ahead of the curve and do the 4.4 rebase, and point tim and and andy at it
[16:50] <sarnold> aha. I took a quick look at what they were talking about last week, and I couldn't figure out how on earth that test goes wrong. it feels like it'd be worth taking apparmor out of the equation on that one and try to write a reproduer that does't rely upon upstart ..
[16:51] <jjohansen> oh fun, looks like sarnold has volunteered to take that one off my hands :)
[16:51] <tyhicks> jjohansen: ISTR you and Tim talking at the sprint about how the 4.4 rebase required no changes from the 4.3 rebase so Tim was just going to handle it himself?
[16:52] <jjohansen> tyhicks: that was the 4.3 rebase at the sprint, I haven't looked at 4.4 at all
[16:52] <tyhicks> ah
[16:52] <jjohansen> though I expect it is similar
[16:52] <tyhicks> ok
[16:52] <tyhicks> sarnold: you're up
[16:52] <sarnold> i'm in the happy place this week
[16:53] <sarnold> I'd like to take a short week this week (thinking friday off)
[16:53] <sarnold> i will finish the libmicrohttpd mir, will start (and probably finish) the dpdk mir, catch up from holiday email, and hopefully review an apparmor patch or two
[16:54] <sarnold> tyhicks feels like he's drowning this week, so perhaps steal a day of cve triage
[16:54] <tyhicks> :)
[16:54] <sarnold> that's it for me, chrisccoulson?
[16:54] <tyhicks> I'll let you know
[16:54] <tyhicks> thanks
[16:55] <chrisccoulson> So, last week I got the camera working in the browser on the phone. I'm still ironing out some bugs with that (orientation is still messed up, and I'm seeing the device reset frequently as well)
[16:55] <sarnold> woo :)
[16:55] <chrisccoulson> I also need to get someone to review my changes to libhybris, but I'm not sure who's responsible for that now
[16:56] <chrisccoulson> Other than that, I plan to tackle the stuff I wanted to do last week but never got around to :) (bug 1447345), as well as the usual code review stuff
[16:56] <chrisccoulson> (short week too - I'm out on wednesday)
[16:56] <chrisccoulson> That's me done
[16:57] <tyhicks> chrisccoulson: nice to hear that the camera work is progressing :)
[16:57] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:57] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:57] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:57] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pngcrush.html
[16:57] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/wv2.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libxml-dt-perl.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/dimp1.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/xcfa.html
[16:58] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:58] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:59] <tyhicks> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: Thanks!
[16:59] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:59] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Nov 30 16:59:35 2015 UTC.
[16:59] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-30-16.31.moin.txt
[16:59] <jjohansen> thanks jdstrand
[16:59] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
[16:59] <jjohansen> ;)
[16:59] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks :)
[17:01] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks!
[17:07] <jdstrand> tyhicks: thanks! :)
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-tn
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[16:28] <chaker> o/
[16:34] <elacheche> o/
[18:40] <shada> hello
[18:40] <shada> Can someone recommend a company that will let me rent a small Ubuntu box in Tunisia?
[18:42] <shada> It is for a school project. I am an American University Student. I need to run a Postfix email server in Tunisia.
[18:43] <ichihi> shada, http://www.tac-tic.net/hosting/
[18:45] <shada> wonderful, thank you ichihi!
[18:45] <ichihi> shada, I know the company founder, he's a serious Ubuntu fan too.
[18:53] <shada> Awesome! :) I hope it works. The offer comes with 10 email accounts... but I hope to run my own mail server!
[18:53] <shada> I sent a request. I will wait for a response. :)
[18:54] <ichihi> shada, Good luck. Take care.
[18:54] <shada> Thank you, you too
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-gnome
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[00:17] <freakyy> darkxst: well im not good in java yet and i dont know ... i might read my java book again ... i hope i will be able to code something then
[00:17] <freakyy> but javafx i dont know ... its complicated without a good book
[00:20] <darkxst> best way to learn is read code!
[09:14] <freakyy> darkxst: ok thank you
[09:15] <darkxst> freakyy, if you want bugs to work on, just let me know ;)
[09:16] <darkxst> though I do think as a starter, find something that annoys you and fix it, its a better approach
[09:18] <darkxst> bug 1516876
[09:30] <freakyy> darkxst: yea but i only know java and i dont have any java programs running - only minecraft
[09:33] <freakyy> well ok i know a bit C and C++
[09:33] <freakyy> i had it 2 years at school
[09:34] <freakyy> but i dont think it's enough ... i also only have a few books about c++ but none about C
[09:35] <darkxst> freakyy,
[09:35] <darkxst> C is beutidul
[09:36] <darkxst> .C ia beautiful, even
[09:37] <freakyy> yes but c++ is more modern ... and somehow ive read so much about object oriented programming in java, that i wanna stick to it - python, java, c++
[09:38] <freakyy> i will learn some python i think
[09:41] <freakyy> one thing ive coded in java
[09:41] <freakyy> is my coffee machine
[09:42] <freakyy> http://freakyonline.de/2014/02/01/mycoffee-for-helzi/
[09:42] <freakyy> :)
[09:43] <freakyy> nothing special
[09:43] <freakyy> so u c im a total beginner
[09:44] <darkxst> freakyy, forget java its horrid
[09:45] <freakyy> why? its said to be a good programming langauge for coding desktop apps and also server apps
[09:46] <freakyy> ive bought 5 books about it
[09:47] <freakyy> spending around 200 euros all together
[09:47] <freakyy> ill learn python now though
[09:51] <darkxst> books wont make you a coder ;)
[09:51] * darkxst sleeps
[09:51] <darkxst> \
[10:08] <freakyy> darkxst: yea ... but they can help u with things
[10:08] <freakyy> btw, whats the best gnome python ide?
[10:26] <freakyy> ok im using pycharm now
[12:16] <LinDol> hi all :)
[15:53] <Dorfen`> Hello guys! Is there any way to get the default gnome terminal app to show the host i am ssh'ed into in the title bar? I've tried messing with {TITLEBAR} in .bashrc's PS1 var with no luck. Is it even possible, or do i need to get another terminal app?
[16:08] <bhundven> (16.04) I have a set of user-mode systemd units in ~/.local/share/systemd/user for offlineimap, and have ran 'systemctl --user enable offlineimap.timer', but I don't ever see it being ran in journalctl. I can manually start the one-shot offlineimap.service to sync my mail, but that is what offlineimap.timer is for. I'm not sure why it isn't running. Any tips for why this wouldn't be working? This wo
[16:08] <bhundven> rked fine on debian sid (two days ago). unit files: https://github.com/OfflineIMAP/offlineimap/tree/master/contrib/systemd (slightly modified, since '-u syslog' isn't in current offlineimap)
[16:36] <bhundven> and then it starts working. idk, wtf.
[17:42] <freakyy> hi all. is there a suggested program for doing live twitch streams with ubuntu?
[18:01] <freakyy> i found something
[18:01] <freakyy> open broadcaster software
[23:32] <freakyy> hey is there any good sound scheme for ubuntu somewhere?
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-x
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[20:11] <jcastro> mamarley: ricotz: around?
[20:53] <mamarley> jcastro: I am now.
[20:55] <jcastro> hey so a guy from valve mailed me and said they're talking to nvidia and apparently the 358 drivers are a hot mess
[20:59] <jcastro> he recommends pulling the driver but I have no idea how feasible that is, if so what's the upgrade path, etc.
[23:54] <mamarley> jcastro: I don't think it would be a good idea to force a downgrade or even remove the driver. How about just post a note in the PPA description saying that 358 may be buggy and if so, one should try 355?
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-server
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[09:15] <rbasak> teward: sorry, I was out last week. What's up?
[09:33] <rbasak> caribou: why is bug 1464227 Invalid? /var/log/dmesg is out of date on my system. Or has systemd saved it in the journal somehow?
[09:34] <rbasak> cpaelzer__: I don't see any tags in your NIS git branch. Did you push them?
[09:34] <caribou> rbasak: pitti told me that those were saved in the journal so I removed the systemd equivalent job of the upstart one when I merged the rsyslog package
[09:37] <rbasak> caribou: ah, if it's in the journal then that's fine with me. Thanks.
[09:39] <cpaelzer__> rbasak, tags now uploaded
[09:39] <cpaelzer> rbasak: there was so much confusion on friday for the first LP git upload that I missed them
[09:39] <cpaelzer> rbasak: now they should be good
[09:39] <caribou> rbasak: journalctl --dmesg has it
[09:40] <rbasak> caribou: aha. Works for me. Thanks again!
[09:40] <caribou> rbasak: np
[09:40] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I see them now. Thank you!
[10:24] <davegarath> Hi all. I would like to logging scp session from my server ( what are downloaded/uploaded ). I tried to configure /etc/sshd_config with "Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server -l INFO" but scp session aren't logged
[10:24] <davegarath> I just can see connection and disconnection in the auth.log file
[10:26] <rbasak> Does scp actually use sftp
[10:26] <rbasak> ?
[10:27] <rbasak> Or does it just run an scp at the other end like rsync does?
[10:27] <davegarath> mmm I don't know maybe not
[10:27] <rbasak> If you're logging for auditing purposes then you can't rely on any logs if you permit shell access.
[10:28] <davegarath> mh ok
[10:28] <maswan> rbasak: scp does not use sftp
[10:28] <davegarath> so I can't log scp activities...
[10:28] <rbasak> You could provide some kind of restricted shell and wrap the scp command I suppose.
[10:29] <rbasak> It would be rather hacky though.
[10:29] <maswan> scp is very very close to cat $name | ssh fooo "cat > $name"
[10:29] <davegarath> ok. I'll think some wrapper
[10:30] <rbasak> It might be better to eliminate scp from your workflow entirely.
[10:30] <rbasak> It's handy for ad-hoc stuff but less useful for workflow things.
[10:31] <rbasak> If I were to set up something where I need an audit trail of what happened to a bunch of files changing, I'd use git and a hook to update it when required.
[10:31] <rbasak> Possibly with git-annex if large file support is required.
[10:32] <davegarath> I don't want eliminate scp to break some functionality on the server that could use it. I just want to know if someone use scp for normal operation and watch for what.... I don't know what run on this server
[13:15] <forme> If I want to run Plex server on a headless Ubuntu server installed on an usb stick will I have performance issues with the plex server? The media is stored on a nas, so the locations are network based for read/write.
[15:13] <rbasak> cpaelzer: first draft. Maybe I need to tone it down a bit? Feedback appreciated. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13576789/
[15:17] <cpaelzer> rbasak: tone down a bit in paragraph #3
[15:18] <cpaelzer> everything else is totally fine, non-offensive and asking what we like to understand "why special"
[15:20] <jeroentbt> Hey, I just installed an ubuntu server (14.04.3) and would like to connect it to an IPsec VPN. This server needs to be the client in this connection. Which application would allow me to set this up? (a walkthrough would be great too!)
[15:22] <hateball> !vpn
[15:23] <jeroentbt> hateball: thanks, that page does specifically mention IPSec VPN is not covered though..
[15:23] <TJ-> jeroentbt: you actually want it to operate in tunnelling mode, or just 'plain' IPSec encapsulation ?
[15:24] <jeroentbt> TJ-: You've got me there (noob... :/) I want a VPN connection to connect to some specific servers, All other connections should not use the VPN
[15:25] <jeroentbt> If that was what you were asking.
[15:26] <TJ-> jeroentbt: yes, IPSec and VPN terms are used incorrectly at times. 'standard' IPSec is 'just' transport security (encrypting packets between hosts). 'on top' of that you can do tunnelling, which is where the 'virtual network' sub-net 'tunnel' comes in
[15:27] <jeroentbt> Then I would need option 2, tunneling. thanks for the clarification!
[15:27] <TJ-> jeroentbt: the usual package for doing it is openswan
[15:28] <jeroentbt> TJ-: Thank you, I'll look in to that
[15:29] <TJ-> jeroentbt: there's a reaonably easy-to-understand overview here: http://clauseriksen.net/2011/02/02/ipsec-on-debianubuntu/
[15:33] <jeroentbt> TJ-: Thank you!
[17:29] <teward> when's the next server team meeting?
[18:04] <beisner> coreycb, confirming: is kilo: oslo.concurrency/nova is ready to promote to trusty-kilo-updates today?
[18:05] <beisner> coreycb, also kilo: python-novaclient g2g?
[18:07] <coreycb> beisner, not yet because they're not in vivid-updates yet. and that's blocked on a dep8 regression that I'm working on fixing.
[18:07] <coreycb> beisner, I'll keep you posted, thanks
[18:07] <beisner> coreycb, ack, thx. i'll watch the cards for updates.
[18:34] <rbasak> cpaelzer: I'm struggling to understand how to tone down the third paragraph. Which bit of it should I focus on?
[18:36] <teward> rbasak: hello! hope you enjoyed holiday/vacation/etc., just an FYI the libuuid1 headaches broke my sbuilds, so i couldn't test merges, that's back on track now and i'm getting real close to a merge
[18:36] <teward> (for nginx)
[18:36] <teward> just wanted to give you the heads up
[18:36] <rbasak> teward: OK, no problem.
[18:39] <vahid> Hi, I want to make a custom Ubuntu server image to install in every virtual machine, That ISO should contain some files. Is there any way ? I can make ISO with selected packages but not files.
[18:40] <teward> vahid: you could make the virtual machine, then make clones of the VM for new virtual machines (changing network setups, hostnames, IPs, etc.)
[18:40] <teward> just an option :)
[18:40] <teward> (I haven't found a way to ship separate files on the ISO, myself)
[18:41] <vahid> I should Install on VPS.
[18:44] <danawar> Hey ubuntu server i have an issue i ran a python script on my server at work which edited the /etc/fstab file to mount some smb shares on startup problem is there is an issue with it and now the server wont boot up so i can SSH into it. Is there any way i can recover this machine without getting physical access to it?
[18:49] <sarnold> danawar: use serial or ILO or ivkm or whatever your system has to add "single" or "shell=/bin/bash" to your grub kernel command
[19:17] <sokoll> I'm trying to configure a this module https://confluence.atlassian.com/doc/configuring-apache-to-cache-static-content-via-mod_disk_cache-295305963.html. But, there is no /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf directory/file on Ubuntu. This page gives details on the Apache config files in ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html, but I'm just not quite clear on which file I need to edit
[19:17] <sokoll> in order to load the cache mod.
[19:18] <sarnold> sokoll: iirc it'd be in /etc/apache2/ somewhere -- grep -r for LoadModule and see if that helps you find anything
[19:22] <sokoll> sarnold: what's the correct command for that?
[19:22] <sokoll> grep -r LoadModule?
[19:24] <sarnold> sokoll: yeah, once you're in the apache configuration directory
[19:24] <sokoll> ah ok
[19:24] <sokoll> bear with
[19:27] <sokoll> I have mods-available/cache_disk.load:LoadModule cache_disk_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_cache_disk.so
[19:28] <sokoll> but no conf file
[19:32] <sarnold> sokoll: nice; that looks like you ought to be able to do a2enmod cache_disk to enable to module, and then add the <ifmodule> block from https://confluence.atlassian.com/doc/configuring-apache-to-cache-static-content-via-mod_disk_cache-295305963.html to wherever your virtual host configuration is stored, probably a symlink from sites-enabled/ to a config file in sites-available/
[19:33] <sokoll> ok lemme give that a bash (no pun intended ;) )
[19:36] <sokoll> How do I know if it's working or not?
[19:37] <sarnold> hopefully apache will pass through some headers that you can spot in curl or wget output
[19:42] <sokoll> hmm, I'll fiddle about with it. thank you so much sarnold
[19:42] <sokoll> :)
[19:43] <sarnold> cool :) have fun sokoll ;)
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[07:27] <morphis> robru: ping
[07:35] <robru> morphis: pong
[07:36] <morphis> robru: I am wondering if I can mix a MP supposed to dual land a package and a vivid-only package in a silo
[07:37] <robru> morphis: nope, silos are either entirely dual or entirely one series. You can mix an mp with two manual packages though
[07:38] <robru> morphis: like a manual xenial copy and a manual vivid copy of the same package
[07:38] <morphis> ok
[07:38] <morphis> robru: I've replayed with that a bit at the weekend: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/708
[07:39] <morphis> where wpa is a vivid only upload
[07:39] <morphis> but I must say I switched the silo to vivid+xenial after adding the settings app MP
[07:41] <robru> morphis: right so the three listed under "ready to build" means "you need this"
[07:41] <morphis> ok
[07:41] <morphis> then I need to start over
[07:42] <robru> morphis: start over? Just make xenial packages
[07:42] <morphis> robru: for wds, ubuntu-touch-meta that is possible yes
[07:42] <morphis> but the wpa package wont change for xenial
[07:43] <morphis> or I am doing just a version bump for the xenial one of wpa
[07:43] <robru> morphis: it's not clear to me why you would want to have some changes only on vivid, one of the requirements is landing stuff in xenial first then vivid. Doing stuff in vivid without also on xenial is bad
[07:44] <morphis> robru: yes, but in this case its the way to go
[07:44] <morphis> wpa is 2.1 in vivid
[07:44] <morphis> and 2.4 in xenial
[07:44] <morphis> 2.4 has CONFIG_WIFI_DISPLAY already set
[07:44] <morphis> 2.1 in vivid don't
[07:44] <robru> morphis: so you're just syncing the xenial version to vivid?
[07:44] <morphis> so I am only adding CONFIG_WIFI_DISPLAY for 2.1 in vivid and xenial is fine
[07:45] <morphis> robru: we don't want to do this right now as bumping from 2.1 to 2.4 might introduce other regressions we don't want to look for yet
[07:45] <robru> morphis: you're just changing one variable and that's the whole diff?
[07:47] <morphis> yes
[07:47] <robru> morphis: then I'd do a separate silo for wpa in just vivid, and once that lands the other silo that's a dual will have it
[07:48] <robru> Should be a quick landing with such a small diff
[07:49] <morphis> robru: ok, any chance I get wpa out of that silo or do you have to run the assign-job again?
[07:50] <robru> morphis: not sure what you mean. You want to copy the package to a new silo? Or delete it? Train wing do either but i can do it manually
[07:50] <morphis> robru: copying it to a new silo would be the easiest way
[07:51] <robru> morphis: yeah. Make a new request, assign it, and I'll copy it over and delete the original
[07:51] <morphis> thanks
[07:51] <robru> morphis: let me know what new silo number you get
[07:52] <morphis> robru: silo 40
[07:52] <robru> OK one sec
[07:56] <robru> morphis: OK, wpa copied and deleted
[07:56] <morphis> robru: thanks a lot!
[07:56] <robru> morphis: you're welcome
[08:01] <robru> Good god, why is bzr missing such a dog?
[08:06] <robru> uh
[08:06] <robru> morphis: did you do anything to the previous silo? u-s-s in xenial seems to have lost it's .bzr: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/cyphermox-test/1474/console
[08:07] <morphis> I removed the MP temporarily and added it again now
[08:08] <morphis> let me force a rebuild of everything
[08:09] <robru> morphis: alright, that's very strange though, I'm not aware of any train code that would delete just the .bzr directory from the source tree. also it shouldn't have deleted anything just by changing the MPs
[08:10] <morphis> robru: I did something like: 1. Add the uss MP 2. build everything 3. Drop uss MP 4. eventually rebuild again (not sure)
[08:10] <robru> morphis: no but I mean like, the .bzr directory disappeared within the last 20 minutes.
[08:12] <morphis> robru: oh really
[08:12] <robru> morphis: anyway I guess it'll fix itself if you're rebuilding anything, but that's really weird
[08:12] <robru> morphis: check the audit log on the ticket. the thing about "not a branch" is super new, and before that it was "successfully built", which means the .bzr would have been there and everything was good
[08:17] <robru> morphis: in case this happens again it's possible to recover the branch from https://code.launchpad.net/~ci-train-bot/ubuntu-system-settings/ubuntu-system-settings-ubuntu-xenial-landing-000 but you'll need either me or sil to be able to copy it back into the train
[08:17] <morphis> robru: ok
[08:17] <morphis> good to kno
[08:36] <sil2100> jibel, Mirv, davmor2_: anything to discuss? I suppose we would have more after the RTM meeting and more details about OTA-8.5
[08:42] <Mirv> sil2100: mostly that I'd plan to land Qt 5.5 to xenial this week. we've a sprint in Helsinki too this week.
[08:42] <robru> Mirv: were you doing anything in Jenkins on the last 20 minutes?
[08:42] <Mirv> robru: no, haven't touched
[08:43] <robru> Mirv: sil2100: something goofy if happening in the train and deleting branches
[08:43] <robru> Like when jobs attend even running
[08:43] <robru> Aren't*
[08:44] <robru> sil2100: Mirv second incident in the last hour or so
[08:44] <robru> Look at the most recent queuebot ping, about "not a branch"
[08:45] <robru> I have no idea why it would do that. It was a branch 15 minutes ago otherwise it would've said so earlier
[08:47] <robru> Mirv: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/cyphermox-test/1475/console source tree is there but .bzr is just gone. totally bizarre
[08:48] <robru> Mirv: you'll have to rebuild appmenu-qt5 I guess.
[08:49] <robru> Mirv: the code should be pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/appmenu-qt5 but I guess you last built appmenu-qt5 10 million years ago, before I switched it to pushing branches at build time
[08:52] <Mirv> robru: oh right I didn't touch jenkins but I added a branch in bileto
[08:52] <Mirv> robru: so this was the first time I added that branch
[08:53] <robru> Mirv: oh you changed it from a manual source to a merge?
[08:53] <Mirv> robru: right, exactly that! :)
[08:53] <Mirv> robru: same for the two others
[08:53] <robru> Mirv: that would explain it
[08:53] <robru> morphis: sorry earlier when I was asking about jenkins, did you say you added a merge to something that wasn't a merge at all before?
[08:54] <morphis> robru: yes
[08:54] <robru> morphis: oh ok, I misunderstood. I thought it was already a merge and you just added another merge
[08:54] <morphis> robru: silo 0 was a silo with only manual uploaded packages first but when got two MPs added
[08:54] <robru> but that makes more sense
[08:55] <robru> morphis: Mirv: sil2100: ok false alarm, train isn't deleting .bzr dirs randomly, but changing something from a manual source to an MP isn't something I ever anticipates so it gives that error "not a branch", just rebuild to fix
[08:55] <morphis> robru: great
[08:56] <Mirv> robru: ticket 20 is good about stress testing the Train. let's see later this week when I'm about to publish it :)
[08:57] <robru> Mirv: I'll try not to claw all my hair out ;-)
[08:57] <sil2100> robru: phew
[08:57] <sil2100> Mirv: yay for Qt 5.5, go for it - we don't have anything planned for xenial
[08:57] <robru> very strange that two different people caused the same issue within one hour of each other!
[08:57] <sil2100> And we already promoted a devel image last week
[08:58] <robru> but not really an issue at all since presumably you want to build the new MP you just added anyway
[08:59] <sil2100> Mirv, jibel, robru: I'm thinking of making the landing team meetings just once a week, I'll try to figure out the best day for those so that we can use it the best for milestone preps
[08:59] <sil2100> We can always schedule additional meetings if needed
[08:59] <robru> sil2100: +1000
[08:59] <sil2100> Better than having to cancel those all the time
[09:00] <robru> sil2100: let's say once per week and change it to an email. one weekly email ;-)
[09:11] <Elleo> trainguards: heya, can anyone point out what I'm doing wrong with silo 17 to cause these "not in PPA" errors for a bunch of MRs? (https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/236)
[09:13] <sil2100> Elleo: hmmm
[09:14] <jibel> sil2100, 1 meeting a week works for me
[09:19] <davmor2> jibel, sil2100, once a week sounds good, I would suggest keeping the monday morning one on release weeks as it acts as the game plan meeting then the thursday afternoon one as the results meeting
[09:37] <robru> Elleo: sil2100: "not in ppa" means that the version in Jenkins doesn't match the ppa, so either the upload failed for some reason or the ppa contents gave been deleted. Check the version numbers in the message against what's in the ppa, they may be lower (most common reason for upload rejections)
[09:41] <Elleo> robru: ah, yeah, the ppa packages have a lower version number, what do I need to do to fix that?
[09:41] <Elleo> robru: since it's all the autogenerated part of the version that's different (i.e. the build date)
[09:44] <robru> Elleo: well i would look at the last build job log and see what it was trying to do. The error would most likely happen if the ppa versions were *higher*
[09:44] <robru> Elleo: generally i would try rebuilding everything
[09:47] <Elleo> robru: hmm, the lastBuild artifacts give a 404; I'll do a rebuild and see what happens
[09:53] <Elleo> robru: aha, now I'm getting an error from the indicator-transfer MR with its version number going backwards, I think because we forgot to create a vivid only branch for that now that we're doing separate vivid and xenial landings
[09:57] <robru> Elleo: oh yeah sorry Jenkins lost all the logs before some recent point. But yeah fix that changelog and then rebuild everything and it should work
[09:57] * robru not really here
[09:58] <Elleo> robru: I'm wondering if it might be best for us to just land ubuntu-download-manager in vivid and xenial as two separate landings, then land everything else in that silo via dual landings afterwards
[10:38] <robru> Elleo: dual landings are generally preferred, please email me with a summary of the challenges your having with dual and I'll look over it in the morning
[11:52] <diwic> hi, a question, can one get the ci train to start with a git branch, in this case http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-pulseaudio/pulseaudio.git/?h=ubuntu
[11:52] <diwic> it seems to only offer "merge proposals" or "raw tarballs"
[11:54] <sil2100> diwic: hey! Sadly the train right now only supports bzr for merge proposals
[11:55] <sil2100> diwic: for others you would need to create a manual source and ask someone to upload to the silo
[11:55] <diwic> sil2100, ok, so that essentially makes dual landings impossible, right?
[11:55] <sil2100> (either a core-dev or a trainguard, if you're not a core-dev yourself)
[11:55] <sil2100> diwic: well, yeah, you would have to create two source packages for that in the dual silo
[11:56] <diwic> sil2100, I'm not a core-dev but I have upload rights to pulseaudio so I could upload to xenial and ask the ci train to sync to the vivid ppa
[12:01] <diwic> sil2100, that at least is what I'm going to try next
[12:02] <sil2100> diwic: yeah, that could work
[12:02] <diwic> sil2100, ok, thanks
[12:05] <Elleo> sil2100: any ideas what's causing the xenial build error on silo 2? vivid builds fine buy xenial claims the version is missing from the changelog? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/712
[12:05] <sil2100> Elleo: looking now
[12:06] <Elleo> sil2100: thanks
[12:06] <sil2100> Elleo: ah, yeah, since there is one version missing from the changelog indeed
[12:07] <sil2100> Elleo: nothing to worry about though
[12:07] <sil2100> Elleo: so, slangasek made a no-change rebuild in xenial
[12:07] <Elleo> sil2100: ah, okay; that won't cause issues landing then?
[12:08] <sil2100> Elleo: from what I see the current train is smarter so it should be fine
[12:08] <Elleo> sil2100: okay, cool, thanks :)
[13:17] <tvoss> sil2100, o/
[13:18] <sil2100> tvoss: o/
[13:22] <tvoss> sil2100, could you remove trust-store packages from https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/657
[13:25] <sil2100> tvoss: on it!
[13:25] <sil2100> tvoss: you mean, xenial trust-store packages only? Or both?
[13:28] <tvoss> sil2100, both, please
[13:29] <sil2100> tvoss: done
[13:29] <tvoss> sil2100, thx
[14:04] <diwic> hi, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/720 - I'm trying to sync from xenial to the vivid ppa
[14:06] <diwic> I just uploaded a new version of PulseAudio in xenial, waited for it to migrate from proposed to main, and now I want to see if I can land that on ubuntu touch as well
[14:06] <sil2100> diwic: hey! You need to include the source package name in the Source Package Names field
[14:08] <diwic> sil2100, thanks, that then went to complain about a different error...
[14:08] <diwic> "1:7.1-1ubuntu2 does not seem to be a CI Train generated version number"
[14:08] <sil2100> Hah, yeah, you seem to be hitting the train limitations ;)
[14:09] <sil2100> Yeah, it's as the output says, sadly train-syncs are only supported for CI Train released packages (with the citrain versioning) as otherwise we weren't be able to guess how to modify the version number to make it not collide with anything
[14:10] <sil2100> diwic: you just want to sync what's in xenial to the silo for testing by QA, right?
[14:10] <sil2100> diwic: let me fetch the sources and dput to the PPA with the version changed
[14:10] <diwic> sil2100, well, that's part of it, but part of it is also learning how this entire ci train thing works
[14:11] <sil2100> diwic: so the CI Train thingy works well for things where we're upstream, so projects that are hosted on LP with bzr - then everything is easy as all can be dealt with merges and the train does all the work for you
[14:12] <sil2100> diwic: but yeah... currently git support is not there (wasn't a priority since almost none of our projects are using git) and for manual sources it requires some manual work
[14:15] <diwic> sil2100, ok, not sure where that leaves me and pulseaudio though
[14:17] <sil2100> diwic: I suppose for pulseaudio it can be a bit hard to use the train, normally it would have to be handled by manual source-packages here
[14:17] <diwic> john-mcaleely, ^ fyi
[14:17] <sil2100> diwic: meaning you'd need to team up with someone that could upload the packages for you to the train PPAs for QA to test...
[14:17] <sil2100> diwic: we *could* figure something out though to make it a bit easier
[14:18] <sil2100> diwic: I would need to think if we could use some temporary bzr branch for this and use the debian/control flag not to overwrite the version number
[14:18] <diwic> sil2100, and that someone needs to be a...
[14:18] <sil2100> diwic: a core-dev or a trainguard
[14:18] <diwic> okay
[14:18] <john-mcaleely> does that need to be pushed to the ppa direct then?
[14:18] <john-mcaleely> after some sort of approval/qa pass?
[14:19] <john-mcaleely> (or not, whatever the process would be)
[14:19] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: well, it can still be released through the train, we handle publishing manual sources too
[14:19] <sil2100> The problem is that it'll be a bit troublesome for diwic
[14:19] <john-mcaleely> yuk
[14:19] <john-mcaleely> there was me thinking it would be 'easy'
[14:19] <john-mcaleely> ha
[14:19] <sil2100> john-mcaleely, diwic: using the train is nice as QA has easy access to test that and sign-it-off
[14:20] <sil2100> john-mcaleely, diwic: the short-coming is that diwic would have to prepare source packages and ask someone to copy them to the silo PPAs
[14:22] <diwic> john-mcaleely, do we have trainguards and/or core-devs on our team to help with that?
[14:23] <john-mcaleely> diwic, none I'm aware of
[14:24] <john-mcaleely> well, tseliot & tjaalton are core devs. Might be unfair to land it on them tho
[14:24] <john-mcaleely> not sure
[14:24] <john-mcaleely> maybe ask them, see if they feel they could?
[14:25] <john-mcaleely> (ie no is a reasonable answer)
[14:25] <john-mcaleely> diwic, ^
[14:26] <sil2100> You can always just ping trainguard with that, in the UE timezone usually me or Mirv are around to help
[14:26] <diwic> john-mcaleely, ok. Tend to agree with you on that; they're not that much into ci train stuff either AFAIK
[14:26] <diwic> sil2100, okay
[14:26] <sil2100> So an upload takes a moment
[14:26] <sil2100> diwic: should I upload that xenial sync to your silo?
[14:27] <diwic> sil2100, sure, let's do that just for me to learn the process
[14:34] <sil2100> diwic: done, I also pressed the 'Build' button so that the train picks up the new package pushed to the PPA
[14:44] <diwic> sil2100, thanks - so now my next step is to wait for the build to either success or fail?
[14:49] <sil2100> diwic: yes, once that's finished, you can test it on a phone and if you're happy with it - switch the silo to Ready for QA
[14:49] <sil2100> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/citrain/LandingProcess#The_QA_Signoff_Status_field
[14:50] <diwic> sil2100, I've attached a test plan (which somebody else wrote), am I supposed to follow that test plan myself and mark "ready for QA" when I'm done, or is it QA that'll follow the submitted test plan?
[14:51] <sil2100> diwic: usually we leave that up to the lander, but QA expects that you made sure that the package has been tested properly, so therefore assuming the test plan has been also executed
[14:52] <sil2100> QA is just a gatekeeper that makes sure that the lander didn't miss anything during their testing and/or didn't skip anything during testing
[14:52] <davmor2> diwic: both
[14:53] <diwic> sil2100, davmor2 ok, so the test plan is being executed twice, first by me, then by QA team
[14:54] <davmor2> diwic: we try and discover edge cases that might not be covered too etc, the testplan should be the essentials to a successful landing effectively
[14:55] <diwic> davmor2, ok..
[14:57] <sil2100> The end idea was that QA just does some base testing, but then they noticed that some landers didn't really properly execute their test plans ;)
[14:58] <dobey> Mirv: can you get qtpurchasing-opensource-src through NEW so it makes it into xenial archive?
[15:12] <Mirv> dobey: that needs to be approved by https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+members
[15:15] <dobey> Mirv: ok, i didn't know if you had permissions for that or not
[15:15] <Mirv> dobey: those permissions are in pretty rare hands unfortunately
[15:15] <dobey> yeah
[16:10] <bfiller> jibel, popey : just uploaded new gallery app to store with fixes that were approved by QA last week, need approval in store
[16:17] <popey> bfiller, jibel approved
[16:19] <bfiller> popey: thanks
[16:19] <popey> np
[16:25] <diwic> sil2100, I've got an updated source package in https://launchpad.net/~diwic/+archive/ubuntu/temp - could you take the just pushed pulseaudio package from there and build it in both my silo and silo 47 ?
[16:27] <pmcgowan> whats up with the trello board
[16:31] <diwic> sil2100, sorry, no need to do that today.
[17:39] <dobey> cihelp: can any of you do manual ack of autopkgtest issues that have "always" existed? or we need coredev, or just pitti, for that?
[17:40] <ev> dobey: foundations owns proposed-migration these days
[17:40] <ev> kitsune (cihelp) doesn’t operate it anymore
[17:40] <ev> so I believe pitti is your guy :)
[17:43] <dobey> ev: thanks
[17:43] <dobey> fginther_, plars: hi, can one of you upload a new payui click to the store for me please? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-click-builder-14.09-armhf/55/artifact/output/com.canonical.payui_15.01.137_armhf.click thanks.
[18:25] <boiko> trainguards: can someone please trigger a telephony-service rebuild for vivid i386 on silo 52?
[18:25] <sil2100> boiko: on it
[18:25] <boiko> sil2100: thanks!
[18:26] <boiko> sil2100: are we low on arm64 builders or something?
[18:27] <sil2100> boiko: done
[18:27] <sil2100> boiko: yeah, it usually takes a while to get those building sadly
[18:27] <boiko> sil2100: ok, thanks
[18:36] <fginther> dobey, sure
[18:41] <dobey> fginther: great, thanks
[18:46] <fginther> dobey, uploaded
[18:46] <dobey> popey: ^^ care to approve the new payui please? :)
[18:47] * popey looks
[18:51] <popey> dobey, done
[18:54] <dobey> popey: awesome. thanks much!
[18:54] <popey> np
[20:12] <dobey> slangasek, infinity: can either of you manually ack autopkgtests issues, to push things along through proposed migration?
[20:30] <slangasek> dobey: anyone on the release team can if there's cause to, yes
[20:32] <dobey> slangasek: can you ack ubuntu-push please? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html shows it failing install unity-scope-click on arm64/ppc/ppc64el, where unity-scope-click has never existed.
[20:34] <dobey> i'm not sure why those aren't just being flagged as [always failed] though
[20:34] <slangasek> dobey: that's not an autopkgtest failure, that's you building an uninstallable binary
[20:34] <dobey> oh
[20:34] <slangasek> you should fix the build to not build an uninstallable package, then it'll go through clean :)
[20:34] <dobey> that's not new though, it's been that way for over a year :-/
[20:36] * dobey wonders how unity8 and ubuntu-push have been getting through
[20:36] <slangasek> dobey: it's new because previous versions of ubuntu-push did not build at all on these architectures; now they are building uninstallable packages
[20:37] <dobey> oh, right :-/
[20:40] <dobey> i wonder if unity-scope-click will even build on those archs now
[20:45] <dobey> bah
[20:45] <dobey> ubuntu-touch-meta isn't available there, so will still be left with uninstallable binaries :(
[20:48] <dobey> and unity8 doesn't build on those archs
[20:48] <dobey> gah
[20:52] <dobey> slangasek: i wonder how i should fix this? change the ubuntu-push-autopilot package to only build on [amd64 armhf i386] ?
[20:52] <anpok> cihelp: we have a strange failure on unity-system-compositor(again?) https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-system-compositor-xenial-amd64-ci/12/console
[20:54] <fginther> anpok, looking
[20:57] <dobey> robru: is it possible to rebuild a silo that's been published, but is stuck in proposed-migration, and then publish again, to fix an issue?
[20:57] <robru> dobey: yes
[20:57] <fginther> anpok, Looks like there is something wrong with an individual builder node. I've pulled it and will retry those two recent failures
[20:57] <dobey> ok
[20:58] <robru> dobey: publishing will only publish bits that weren't already published, so you can safely rebuild just one package in a silo that has many
[20:59] <dobey> robru: ok, great, thanks
[21:00] <robru> yw
[21:03] <slangasek> dobey: yes, you can mark the package as Architecture: amd64 armhf i386 instead of Architecture: any in debian/control
[21:22] <anpok> fginther: thx
[21:38] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-015/+build/8359782
[21:38] <dobey> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-015/+build/8359781
[21:38] <dobey> robru: ^^ can you retry those please?
[21:40] <robru> dobey: done
[21:41] <dobey> thanks
[21:41] <robru> yw
[22:17] <dobey> hmm
[22:29] <robru> dobey: it can still be published with that "error"
[22:29] <dobey> robru: can you publish it?
[22:29] <robru> well, no
[22:30] <robru> dobey: I have the same publish power you do... only if it's a merge and theres' no packaging diff.
[22:33] <dobey> robru: ah, for some reason i thought maybe you were motu
[22:33] <robru> dobey: maybe one day ;-)
[22:34] <dobey> kenvandine, slangasek: can one of you click publish on https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/616 please? :)
[23:11] <dobey> well, i have to go. hopefully someone can publish
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-si
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[06:52] <slax0r> jutro
[06:58] <netkat> jutro
[07:04] <netkat> avto odmrzni se
[07:16] <idioterna> get a bike
[07:28] <napsy> jutro
[08:49] <CrazyLemon> http://www.delo.si/nedelo/v-tandemu-vse-do-portugalske.html
[08:49] <Pepelka> V tandemu vse do Portugalske
[08:49] <Pepelka> »S skoraj 3000 kilometri sta mlada Ajdovca opravila v 20 dneh, in to na kolesu z odpada.«
[09:15] <napsy> opazam da zanimanje za *bsd kr narasca
[09:16] <Sky[x]> a res?
[09:17] <Sky[x]> jst sem pa mislu da pada
[09:17] <Sky[x]> od kj ti te informacije?
[09:18] <napsy> v zadnem tednu sm ze naletu na dva clanka
[09:18] <napsy> ki favorizirate bsd napram linux/os x
[09:18] <napsy> favorizirata*
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> dva na macu? :)
[09:21] <napsy> mm ne
[09:21] <napsy> kokr sm gledu freebsd ni tolk svoh
[09:21] <napsy> zfs ga cist zmaga menda
[09:22] <napsy> on tracer pa tut zna bit dost koristen
[09:30] <lynxlynxlynx> cherrypicking bias ;)
[09:32] <slax0r> freebsd je itak zakon ja :)
[09:32] <Sky[x]> ports :>
[09:33] <Sky[x]> a ports se obstaja za freebsd?
[09:45] <CrazyLemon> fckin freenode
[09:45] <CrazyLemon> [10:42:30] <CrazyLemon>: http://slo-android.si/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=16472
[09:45] <CrazyLemon> [10:42:39] <CrazyLemon>: če se želi kdo igrat s chromecastom
[09:45] <Pepelka> P: Chromecast - NOV - Forum - Slo-Android.si
[09:45] <Pepelka> »Prodam prvo verzijo chromecasta, je nov zapakiran, nikoli odprt, refubished z UK polnilcem.«
[10:06] <slax0r> wait, prva verzija? kolk jih pa je?
[10:08] <CrazyLemon> slax0r zdaj je 2.0
[10:08] <CrazyLemon> batman was here!
[10:08] <CrazyLemon> holy sh1t
[10:09] <slax0r> CrazyLemon: a je sploh kaka razlika?
[10:10] <CrazyLemon> slax0r glede hw ne vem če..
[10:10] <CrazyLemon> verjetno je wireless improved..če je
[10:13] <slax0r> meh
[10:13] <slax0r> sem itak preklopil na plex
[10:14] <CrazyLemon> sej chromecast ni zamenjava za plex :) lahk pa uporabiš dumb tv+chromecast+plex i guess :)
[10:14] <slax0r> saj vem da ni zamenjava
[10:14] <slax0r> samo sem zamenjal chromecast z plex ^^
[11:24] <zdobbie> android wut
[11:24] <zdobbie> 12:05 mam uro
[11:24] <zdobbie> not anymore
[11:24] <zdobbie> but why
[12:41] <speed-> hello
[12:48] <napsy> ohla
[12:51] <speed-> kak smo
[12:54] <napsy> ma ajde, gre
[12:55] <speed-> na pune prepricljiv odgovor :)
[13:23] <zdobersek> zivljenje je v pizdi
[13:23] <zdobersek> ventamo v buhrizu
[13:25] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek lol
[13:25] <speed-> kaj pa je tebe tak prizadelo :)
[13:26] <napsy> gvissnu lubejzen
[13:38] <CrazyLemon> android ga je prizadel..ker je zamenjal uro
[13:49] <zdobersek> NENA SE HECAJTESTE
[15:48] <zdobbie> ping
[15:55] <CrazyLemon> jabuk is missing
[16:58] <pitastrudl> rip
[17:01] <idioterna> missing, halo
[17:02] <idioterna> nobody said it was dead
[17:05] <zdobersek> presumed dead?
[17:15] <pitastrudl> topkek
[17:27] <zdobersek> well I never
[17:27] <zdobersek> fasu sem Linux reklamo na YouTubu
[17:28] <zdobersek> in to na Macu
[17:28] <zdobersek> v incognito modeu
[17:42] * CrazyLemon bl redko vidi reklame na jutubih
[17:43] <zdobersek> a ze majo tist placilni sistem?
[17:43] <zdobersek> youtube red?
[17:45] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek jp
[17:47] <CrazyLemon> http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/11/news/uci-disc-brakes-okay-but-still-only-a-trial_390020
[17:47] <Pepelka> UCI: Disc brakes okay, but still only a trial - VeloNews.com
[17:47] <Pepelka> »The UCI will allow Continental, Pro Continental, and women's teams to ride disc brake road bikes as a trial program in 2016.«
[17:47] <zdobersek> k
[19:14] <zdobbie> ...
[19:24] <CrazyLemon> - - -
[20:34] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: care2join?
[20:34] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie a 3some?
[20:36] <zdobbie> halp
[20:36] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie halp? harf?
[20:38] <zdobbie> ja pa joinej insurgency
[20:38] <zdobbie> ffs
[20:41] <idioterna> zdobbie: CrazyLemon
[20:41] <idioterna> aha
[20:41] <idioterna> no
[20:41] <idioterna> we're in
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"authors": [
"CrazyLemon",
"Pepelka",
"Sky[x]",
"idioterna",
"lynxlynxlynx",
"napsy",
"netkat",
"pitastrudl",
"slax0r",
"speed-",
"zdobbie",
"zdobersek"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-si"
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-africa
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[07:10] <ux2> Elko
[08:58] <craigbrash> morning all :)
[09:24] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[10:36] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:42] <craigbrash> nobody talking
[10:44] <Cryterion> peacefull
[10:55] <Kilos> hi craigbrash Cryterion
[10:55] <Kilos> i need help please
[10:55] <craigbrash> whats needed
[10:55] <Kilos> i forgot whe doing a wiki testimonila how to end with my name
[10:56] <craigbrash> I will see if i can find out
[10:56] <Kilos> cant remember if it was $email addy$
[10:57] <Kilos> was just soe symbal to enter before and after
[10:57] <Kilos> my head getting too old
[10:57] <Kilos> i gotta go eat
[10:57] <Kilos> wbb
[10:58] <Kilos> oh inetpro and superfly will know
[11:02] <craigbrash> Note: If you have anything nice to say about this person, please do add it below along with @ SIG @ (no spaces). The @ SIG @ command will sign your name and date/time it after you "Save Changes".
[11:05] <superfly> ohi
[11:18] <Kilos> ty craigbrash
[11:18] <craigbrash> u welcome
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"authors": [
"Cryterion",
"Kilos",
"craigbrash",
"superfly",
"ux2"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
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2015-11-30-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[01:47] <OvenWerk1> It will be a while before y'all wake up I would guess... booted the full dvd to look at whisker.
[01:47] <OvenWerk1> that is the worst way for it to be. That is the way it is shows whisker at it's worst.
[02:20] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I can probably take ~/.config/xfce4/panel/whiskermenu-1.rc and drop it in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/whiskermenu/defaults.rc
[02:21] <OvenWerk1> to effect a change.
[02:24] <OvenWerk1> I see you have that directoru file there... but it is not installed. needs to be moved into etc as above to take effect.
[02:27] <OvenWerk1> hmm, the one you have looks the same as what we have it needs to be fixed.
[02:29] <OvenWerk1> I have some ideas. zequence: I think I am going to set up three (maybe four) panels one right under the other. The top one will be the same as now but fixed.
[02:30] <OvenWerk1> the next will be what we had before, then the old menu but with four menus... main plus Audio, Video and Graphics
[02:30] <OvenWerk1> Then maybe whisker and the three subs.
[02:31] <OvenWerk1> That way people can see the three or four ways and suggest what is easiest to use.
[02:51] <OvenWerk1> More stuff, looking at the source on https://github.com/gottcode/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin, It appears there is a custom-menu-file=* option that could be used. But I am not seeing any way of telling whisker to use more than one.
[02:53] <OvenWerk1> In the end, I think we want nothing fancy anyway. as it would be hard to transfer fancy stuff to another DE... beyond lxde/kde anyway.
[02:54] <OvenWerk1> Actually zequence it looks really good so far. Make two changes to the whisker menu:
[02:55] <OvenWerk1> button-icon=ubuntustudio-logo
[02:55] <OvenWerk1> hover-switch-category=true
[02:55] <OvenWerk1> I think you already have: load-hierarchy=true
[02:58] <OvenWerk1> I think the favourites should reflect the top four apps in our old menu: browser, file manager, editor and terminal. Though to be honest I never use editor, I would be willing to drop that. settings has it's own button in whisker anyway.
[02:58] <OvenWerk1> editor generally gets launched via context.
[02:59] <OvenWerk1> We end up with a mail application and a few games :)
[03:02] <OvenWerk1> I miss having the expanding menu to the size that fits all apps. Whisker doesn't have a scroll by mousing past the bottom action :( or an open submenu by hovering... but at least it does correctly display them \o/
[03:16] <OvenWerk1> having the second panel gone seems to be a good idea.
[03:25] <OvenWerk1> Ok, reboot and try some stuff. zequence I will have an upload ready later on for settings.
[03:37] <OvenWerk1> we still don't ship jack.tools?
[04:23] <OvenWerk1> Sorry jack-tools
[04:25] <OvenWerk1> We do now.
[04:27] <OvenWerk1> Why do the thunar po files not come with thunar?
[04:59] <OvenWerk1> Might help if I was working on x not w :P
[05:01] <OvenWerk1> Have to get x first
[05:56] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I installed things. I went much better than it has in the past.
[07:11] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I think you are attacking the problem from the wrong angle. You are working from the perspective that we are to keep our own desktop base, but we don't really have one since no one is maintaining it.
[07:12] <zequence> So, what we should do is make the Xubuntu stuff work, then find the best way to do that without including all their specifics in our seeds
[07:12] <zequence> And, also all the other DEs
[07:12] <zequence> If you want our own DE, I would suggest you start workin on one, from scratch
[07:12] <zequence> But, then I would say you are responsible for maintaining it
[08:04] <NoklaM> Is there daily build out is yesterdays fine?
[08:41] <zequence> NoklaM: Yes, they should work though I don't think anything has changed since the build before
[08:42] <NoklaM> ah cool
[08:45] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Ok, I see. Yeah, I misplaced the whiskers configs.
[08:46] <zequence> I'll put those in the right place.
[08:49] <zequence> Also the terminal settings. A bit of a mess there.
[08:51] <NoklaM> gtg, doctors time
[09:07] <zequence> I'm commenting xubuntu-artwork from seeds, since it conflicts with our stuff
[09:14] <NoklaM> argh, had to call my doctor's apointment
[09:27] <zequence> Connection really sucks here. Going to relocate.
[09:55] <NoklaM> I need a new pc for testing
[09:56] <NoklaM> Will studio run on a Sempron 190 and 4gigs of RAM? or am I just chancing it
[09:56] <zequence> 4GB is more than enough
[09:56] <NoklaM> ah wicked
[09:57] <NoklaM> Just got to get a case and a PSU together
[09:57] <zequence> If the computer is not more than 10 years old, it should be able to run any Ubuntu flavor
[09:57] <NoklaM> beautiful
[09:58] <NoklaM> I'll make it a dedicated testing machine
[09:58] <zequence> I would say it's hard to survive on less than 2GB, though with modern applications, like web browser, you will quickly use up that as well.
[09:59] <zequence> So, 4GB is plenty
[09:59] <NoklaM> The cpu might be a slight bottle neck
[09:59] <NoklaM> no idea can i unlock the 3rd core on it
[09:59] <zequence> What do you mean, unlock?
[10:00] <NoklaM> it has 3rd core that's locked on it, it's a downgraded Athlone x3
[10:00] <zequence> IF the CPU is slow, just takes longer time to process stuff
[10:00] <zequence> Ah, don't know how that works
[10:01] <NoklaM> Basicly Intel and AMD produce a batch of cpu's and then lock some features on some and sell them for less(economical reasons)
[10:01] <zequence> The biggest problem may be the graphics card. It needs to have graphics acceleration support
[10:01] <NoklaM> oops that could be a problem
[10:01] <NoklaM> no gpu in the house, and I'm using an outdated 4870HD
[10:01] <zequence> That's why I say if it is older than 10 years.
[10:02] <zequence> That's a Radeon card, right?
[10:02] <NoklaM> Yup
[10:02] <zequence> I'm pretty sure it'll work. If it's not more than 10 years old.
[10:02] <NoklaM> Problem is I'm using it on the main pc
[10:02] <NoklaM> got to find a cheap substitute
[10:02] <zequence> Ah, right. But, what do you have in the PC?
[10:02] <zequence> A builtin of some type?
[10:02] <NoklaM> It's a integrated
[10:03] <zequence> Just run the live ISO, and you'll notice pretty quickly of things work or not
[10:03] <NoklaM> Yup will do that, once I get a case and psu
[10:03] <NoklaM> Closest pc shop is 140km away
[10:03] <NoklaM> o.O
[10:03] <NoklaM> Dublin actually
[10:04] <zequence> There's always mail order :)
[10:04] <NoklaM> Now got a question tho, would it make sense to test mass storage on Studio?
[10:05] <zequence> What kind of mass storage?
[10:05] <NoklaM> 2x2Tb drives
[10:05] <zequence> You mean, setting up your own raid, something like that?
[10:05] <NoklaM> yes raid mirrored
[10:06] <zequence> Well, it works the same on all flavors. Not sure if there are gui tools. Don't use them myself
[10:06] <zequence> I'm talking about software raid, just to be clear
[10:06] <NoklaM> Software yes
[10:06] <NoklaM> I think Film producers use a lot of storage
[10:07] <NoklaM> since the movies they do can be big in size
[10:07] <zequence> Yeah, both audio and video may require a lot of space, and you don't want to loose any files
[10:07] <NoklaM> true
[10:08] * NoklaM is excited about a new rig
[10:08] <zequence> Sounds like a good idea to have a look at that
[10:09] <zequence> If you want, you can do some research, and once you find the simplest way to set that up, document it, and we'll add support for it by including whatever we aren't already including
[10:09] <zequence> Also, we should have a bit of documentation for it, or at least link to existing documentation.
[10:10] <zequence> I think the average user wouldn't want to be using the terminal for setting up a RAID
[10:10] <zequence> But, if there is nothing else, then I suppose that is what you will have to do
[10:11] <NoklaM> <-- average user xD
[10:11] <NoklaM> I'll see how it goes
[10:11] <NoklaM> But defo gona check the raid options
[10:12] <NoklaM> since I might need a lot of storage myself
[10:13] <zequence> I'm using RAID on my server, and owncloud to sync my studio recordings with the server
[10:13] <zequence> But, would be better to have RAID in the studio as well.
[10:13] <NoklaM> Future proof
[10:14] <zequence> Think serious movie people would use external servers for data storage though, but still, seems like something smart to have for smaller setups.
[10:15] <NoklaM> a double back up can't hurt
[10:15] <zequence> Ok, new -default-settings and -meta uploaded. Hopefully this time the meta binaries will be published.
[10:15] <NoklaM> sudo apt-get update?
[10:15] <zequence> Takes a bit of time before they are installable
[10:16] <zequence> I just uploaded the source to the archive, where the binaries will be built and then published
[10:16] <zequence> Takes a bit of time for those to end up on different mirrors as well
[10:16] <NoklaM> ah I see, is all automated now
[10:18] <NoklaM> for some reason the calendar is caled orage in my build
[10:18] <zequence> No binaries are ever built locally on someones machine. They all need to be built with the same clean setup at Canonical's server famr.
[10:18] <zequence> It is the XFCE calendar, yes
[10:18] <NoklaM> ah thought someone forgot to translate that
[10:19] <zequence> Hmm, actually the previous meta was just published. Must be one of the archive admins who did that manually.
[10:20] <zequence> NoklaM: I wouldn't do a sudo apt-get update right now, cause that would install some packages that you don't want
[10:20] <NoklaM> ok :)
[10:20] <zequence> This is the latest upload. Building currently. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta/0.144
[10:21] <NoklaM> i actually did an update this morning
[10:21] <NoklaM> but had an error about missing unreachable repos
[10:22] <NoklaM> dunno if it was a bug since i updated for the first time since installed the daily build
[10:22] <zequence> That would not be related. The ubuntustudio- packages were just published less than an hour ago
[10:22] <zequence> Missing repos is something to do with your sources file /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:23] <zequence> or, a PPA of some kind, which would be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[10:23] <NoklaM> I'll check is it persisting with the next update(after it's safe to install)
[10:25] <zequence> Once ubuntustudio-desktop is version 1.144 it's ok to install.
[10:29] <NoklaM> £ to Euro conversion is killing me today
[10:29] <NoklaM> still amazon.co.uk cheapest place to buy from Ireland o.O
[10:40] <NoklaM> if I delete a file locally that I've previously uplodoaded to launchpad will it delete it there as well or will it be fine?
[10:40] <NoklaM> bzr confuses me a lot
[10:55] <zequence> NoklaM: bzr is a version control system, so each commit will be saved
[10:56] <zequence> NoklaM: Whatever changes you make, and then commit, those are the changes that will be saved with that commit
[10:56] <zequence> Once you push your commit(s) to the branch in launchpad, others will be able to pull your commits
[10:56] <NoklaM> The problem is everytime i commit on difrent file it commits on the 1st file i created and then the 2nd and now 3rd all of them at the same time
[10:57] <zequence> It's called pushing, and pulling, as opposed to uploading and downloading
[10:58] <zequence> If you change two files, then commit, the actual commit will include only the changes to those two files
[10:58] <zequence> Usually you always check out the latest commit of a branch, but you can check out any commit done at any time
[10:58] <zequence> So, you can go backwards in history
[10:59] <zequence> It's like backups. But, it's incremental. With each commit (backup), only the zeroes and ones that diff will be saved.
[11:00] <NoklaM> Yesterday i was working on inkscape test and it kept pushing commits to krita file i had earlier
[11:01] <NoklaM> Do i have to do bzr remove --keep file
[11:01] <NoklaM> or it reset severy time i do bzr add file
[11:01] <NoklaM> ?
[11:02] <zequence> bzr add <file> does not commit. It only adds files for the next commit
[11:02] <zequence> IF you change a file, bzr will know, so next time you commit, those changes will be committed
[11:03] <zequence> If you create a new file, you need to use 'bzr add <file>' in order to be able to commit that file
[11:04] <zequence> 'bzr commit -m "<message>"' saves all changes so far.
[11:04] <NoklaM> but for some reason it was sending my commits on krita file + inkscape file at the same time
[11:04] <zequence> 'bzr push :parent' will push all commits to the launchpad branch, that didn't already exist there
[11:05] <zequence> So, if you made multiple commits, 'bzr push' will push all of them
[11:06] <NoklaM> It was pushing both file although i had no changes to krita file and never commited on it
[11:06] <NoklaM> So it confused me a lot
[11:06] <zequence> The only way it would commit changes to krita is if you made changes to it
[11:07] <zequence> That, or there was some corruption on your disk/RAM, or something, which I think can happen with bzr (though, highly unusual)
[11:07] <zequence> by krita I mean the krita file
[11:08] <NoklaM> yes krita testcase file
[11:08] <zequence> You can review the changes for each commit
[11:08] <zequence> Let's see..
[11:08] <NoklaM> i can't find the commit history on launchpad
[11:12] <zequence> To see the last commit number in the branch, do: bzr revno
[11:12] <zequence> Then, to see what changed since last commit, do: bzr diff -r<number>
[11:12] <zequence> replace <number> with the revno - 1
[11:13] <zequence> What you get is some diff text. It shows you which files have changed, and what in those files has changed
[11:13] <zequence> + for added lines, - for deleted lines
[11:14] <NoklaM> I'm so gonna get writing right now and publish a guide to testing with bzr
[11:14] <NoklaM> so much to learn for a newbie like me
[11:14] <NoklaM> i need to have this written down somewhere
[11:15] <zequence> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/
[11:16] <NoklaM> i was using that yesterday and i found it kinda confused me slightly in some parts
[11:16] <NoklaM> maybe it's my reading comprehension
[11:16] <zequence> I started something here too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Bzr
[11:17] <zequence> Problem is it's written for people who already are familiar with that kind of stuff
[11:17] <NoklaM> that's true, very true
[11:17] <NoklaM> Yesterday was my first day using version control
[11:18] <zequence> There's a problem with the wiki formatting. There's a big gap between the text and the first code example.
[11:18] <NoklaM> i used git for like 5 seconds, and astana or whatever it's called for 5 minutes
[11:18] <zequence> Takes a bit of time to get the logic down.
[11:19] <zequence> Ah, here's how to review changes more in detail http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/reviewing_changes.html
[11:19] <zequence> Everything since revision 1000: bzr diff -r 1000
[11:19] <zequence> Only changes between two revisions: bzr diff -r1000..1001
[11:20] <NoklaM> I'm not a programmer(although I'd love to be one) some of those concepts are very very confusing
[11:21] <NoklaM> and i bet 5/10 people who will join the testing team will run in to similar problems
[11:21] <zequence> I'm sure you are right
[11:21] <zequence> NoklaM: YOu should check with flocculant if there are some resources for that already
[11:21] <zequence> NoklaM: Where's the code in launchpad, btw?
[11:22] <NoklaM> It's merged with the ubuntu-testing branch i think
[11:22] <NoklaM> flocculant reviewed it and merged it me thinks
[11:22] <zequence> Well, you had your own branch, right?
[11:23] <NoklaM> I don't think i used my own branch rather then submitting to the bug cases
[11:23] <zequence> What branch did you push to?
[11:24] <NoklaM> noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug#number
[11:24] <NoklaM> with number being the testcase i was working on
[11:25] <zequence> Ok, well I'm here now https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk
[11:25] <zequence> Seems like you have made two commits
[11:26] <zequence> 355 and 356, right?
[11:26] <NoklaM> 362 is the latest
[11:26] <NoklaM> o.O
[11:26] <NoklaM> on my system
[11:27] <zequence> Yeah, but those are commits you have done since, right?
[11:27] <NoklaM> Nope those are before i pushed
[11:28] <zequence> Ok, well, there are two merges anyway
[11:28] <zequence> Each merge is a commit in itself
[11:28] <zequence> Ah, yes. The two merges are about 6h apart
[11:28] <zequence> 355 and 356
[11:30] <NoklaM> sorry i can barely think with this noise, my neighbours alarm went off an hour ago
[11:30] <NoklaM> all i can hear is "eueu"
[11:30] <zequence> NoklaM: You can see those two revisions on this page https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk
[11:30] <zequence> :P
[11:30] <zequence> That's the branch where all the merges go
[11:31] <zequence> So, whatever revision numbers you have aren't going to be the same in that branch.
[11:31] <NoklaM> ah yes i see them
[11:31] <zequence> If you click the numbers, you will see all the changes for that revision
[11:32] <NoklaM> i see those
[11:33] <NoklaM> ah they're after my 362 commit was pushed
[11:34] <zequence> You can also check out the two branches you created from which the merges were done, to see their specific commits, like this one https://code.launchpad.net/~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug
[11:34] <zequence> All of those changes I suspect ended up as a single commit when flocculant did the merge
[11:35] <zequence> ..in the ubuntu-manual-test trunk branch, that is
[11:35] <NoklaM> yea i can't find those in my personal launchpad
[11:35] <NoklaM> probably have to create a branch or something
[11:36] <NoklaM> looking back, i have no idea how 21 lines of html took me 1hour each
[11:37] <zequence> heh
[11:38] <NoklaM> I did 2 test cases yesterday each took me 1h between testing and writing :P
[11:38] <NoklaM> brb gonna grab a cuppa
[11:42] <NoklaM> back
[11:42] <NoklaM> gonna get to do some test cases, just got to find programs I have clue about
[11:56] <zequence> rmadison says the latest metas are published now, but could be they are not in all mirrors yet
[11:57] <NoklaM> I'll wait another 5-10 and download
[11:57] <NoklaM> also do i need special codecs for .ogv on linux?
[11:57] <NoklaM> It's seems i can't watch what i record on recordmydesktop
[11:57] <NoklaM> unless I put in video edditing software
[11:58] <zequence> Don't know much about codecs. If you want the non-free stuff, you do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:59] <zequence> To update using the terminal, btw, do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:59] <NoklaM> ok
[12:00] <NoklaM> Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:00] <zequence> Which were they?
[12:00] <NoklaM> I'll paste the whole thing to pastebin
[12:02] <NoklaM> http://pastebin.com/9NVcsArS
[12:03] <zequence> Bunch of lines that has "True" in them, where you would have the release codename
[12:04] <zequence> This is a fresh install, and you didn't mess with the apt sources file?
[12:04] <NoklaM> nope installed yesterday
[12:04] <NoklaM> one updat etrhough synaptic this morning that was it
[12:06] <zequence> Doesn't look right to me, anyhow. If you like, see what's in /etc/apt/sources.list, and if there are any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:06] <zequence> I'll be doing my first install tomorrow, or the earliest this evening, so I can't double check.
[12:07] <NoklaM> The Irish mirror for ubuntu is the only thing in apt sources.list
[12:07] <NoklaM> well bunch of em
[12:08] <NoklaM> no filed in list.d
[12:09] <zequence> Maybe those are always there, and I never thought about it. But, as long as the xenial repos work, you'll be alright
[12:10] <zequence> Ok, time to do other things for a while. Catch you later NoklaM
[12:10] <NoklaM> see you zequence :)
[14:02] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I think I said something that was misunderstood. Not trying to do a new desktop at all.
[14:02] <OvenWerk1> What is there now is actually very good.
[14:03] <OvenWerk1> I was mostly just giving my thoughts on the run while testing.
[14:05] <OvenWerk1> I do want to try something in settings for people to look at... not as a finalized thing. as it will be wrong the way I do it, but for people to compare. The change does not affect the desktop packages at all only our settings.
[14:06] <OvenWerk1> Probably most of it will come out after people look at it. (some of it will come out for sure)
[14:19] <OvenWerk1> zequence: note that my directory to put whiskermenu in was wrong. I found this out by doing in an install.
[14:30] <OvenWerk1> zequence: please upload https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-default-settings/ubuntustudio-default-settings
[20:28] <NoklaM> o/
[20:44] <flocculant> evening
[20:44] <NoklaM> How's it going?
[20:44] <flocculant> just winding down now :)
[20:45] <NoklaM> Ah nice, I just woke up xD was so tired that i decided that an afternoon nap is a must
[20:46] <flocculant> heh
[20:46] <NoklaM> Was on in the morning was doing a test case(forgot to save or bzr add :() but slept the whole aftrenoon
[20:47] <flocculant> I saw the backlog
[20:48] <NoklaM> Also I can't update the daily build
[20:49] <flocculant> I saw a mail saying it had failed to build
[20:49] <OvenWerks> yes.. but why doesn't make sense.
[20:49] <OvenWerks> it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies: osspd : Conflicts: oss-compat
[20:51] <NoklaM> Should I still do my testcase or wait for the daily build (captureMyDesktop)
[20:52] <flocculant> NoklaM: just use old one - there'll be no change
[20:52] <NoklaM> ok
[20:52] <NoklaM> Got to practise what i did yesterday
[20:52] <NoklaM> And I'm close to the top in karma points
[20:53] <NoklaM> just 30 more and I'm in tpo 5
[20:53] <NoklaM> s/tpo/top
[20:54] <NoklaM> also just noticed that gedit has a massive margin box filled with a grey color in the background that's sticking out about 30px, should it behave that way?
[20:55] <flocculant> that's a bug - fix is in -proposed
[20:55] <OvenWerks> There seem to have been no changes to these two packages for a year. They are supposed to work together.
[20:55] <OvenWerks> flocculant: is the window decoration fixed as well?
[20:55] <flocculant> OvenWerks: what was up with it?
[20:56] <OvenWerks> compare to any other title bar on the ISO.
[20:56] <flocculant> OvenWerks: gedit? I don't have that
[20:56] <OvenWerks> gedit does not use the WM title bar and istead creates it's own with a different theme.
[20:57] <NoklaM> that seems fine
[20:57] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/ExufiSd.png fileroller back to what's expected
[20:58] <OvenWerks> Ya, that looks better.
[20:58] <zequence> OvenWerks: I don't understand the idea you have for customizing menu stuff in -default-settings
[20:59] <OvenWerks> I expect to take most of it out, I wanted people to be able to see some ideas to choose from.
[20:59] <zequence> OvenWerks: It's better you do that from a PPA
[21:00] <zequence> And, what do you mean most? We shouldn't be putting anything there which is not Xubuntu synced, besides some theming since we are moving away from that
[21:01] <OvenWerks> I do want people to see it
[21:01] <zequence> You have the -menu package for doing menu customizaton
[21:01] <OvenWerks> pannel setting are in -setting.
[21:01] <zequence> If it's not multimedia specific, don't put it there
[21:02] <zequence> We can't both base on Xubuntu and not at the same time
[21:02] <OvenWerks> So then why have anything in /etc/xdg at all?
[21:02] <zequence> The idea is we don't even have our own panel settings
[21:03] <OvenWerks> Why even have xdg-ubuntustudio?
[21:03] <zequence> We won't be
[21:03] <zequence> Since we are going desktop agnostic
[21:03] <OvenWerks> So we should take that out then.
[21:04] <zequence> Not until we have found a way to do it right
[21:04] <OvenWerks> Do what right?
[21:04] <zequence> What we have been talking about the last year, or more
[21:04] <zequence> We base on other DE's, and we stop having our own
[21:05] <OvenWerks> If we are not going to add anything, then xdg-ubuntustudio can come out. There is nothing about doing it right or wrong.
[21:05] <zequence> Right now, we have our own theming. That is still there
[21:05] <OvenWerks> Our metas already run right on top of a xubuntu install.
[21:06] <zequence> If we are too keep some things, we will probably need our own session
[21:06] <zequence> There are some problems that need to be worked out
[21:06] <OvenWerks> backdrop and icon for the menu only.
[21:07] <OvenWerks> We already use the same theme.
[21:07] <OvenWerks> (or close enough)
[21:08] <zequence> Well, if you have good solutions, please present them in the mail list, or in a package in a PPA, or whatever. Or, I will, within the week.
[21:08] <zequence> I will be using a PPA when doing testing
[21:08] <OvenWerks> Solutions to what?
[21:08] <zequence> Going desktop agnostic
[21:08] <zequence> The whole shebang
[21:09] <zequence> ubiquity plugin, the works
[21:09] <OvenWerks> Either we use xubuntu with our metas or we don't.
[21:09] <OvenWerks> I have installed our metas on top of xubuntu with the only difference being backdrop and menu icon.
[21:11] <zequence> Well, one question is if we want to keep our theming, and perhaps also use it for other DEs
[21:11] <OvenWerks> once we use xdg-ubuntustudio at all, we may as well make whatever look changes make sense.
[21:11] <NoklaM> Sorry to interupt, but does anyone have the testcases launchpad web adress so i can get a bug number
[21:11] <OvenWerks> each is DE specific.
[21:12] <zequence> Yes, I know
[21:12] <NoklaM> lost all of my history on irc
[21:12] <flocculant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[21:12] <NoklaM> tyvm
[21:12] <zequence> NoklaM: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/30/%23ubuntustudio-devel.html
[21:13] <NoklaM> so just double checking : bzr push noklam/ubutu-manual-tests/bug#1184745
[21:13] <OvenWerks> To go DE agnostic with theming that is our own means a desktop settings package for each DE. I would prefer to _provide_ the artwork and let the user enable it.
[21:14] <zequence> Ok, well, let
[21:14] <flocculant> NoklaM: for just record desktop that'd work
[21:14] <zequence> let's start with that.
[21:14] <NoklaM> Yup that's the one I've just now
[21:15] <NoklaM> so gonna push that and /pray that i didn't do something stupid again
[21:16] <zequence> I'm heading for bed here. I don't want to upload the changes to -default-settings as they are now. If you want to use them for something, I would suggest starting work on a custom DE setup entirely.
[21:17] <zequence> ..and also pledge to maintain it for at least the three years xenial will be supported
[21:19] <NoklaM> nope I can't push it, did : bzr push lp:noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug#number , and it says there is no project noklam
[21:19] <NoklaM> o.O
[21:20] <flocculant> you need a ~, bzr push lp:~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug#number
[21:20] <NoklaM> ah explains it tyvm again :)
[21:22] <NoklaM> and now i went to my personal launchpad and can't find it to assign it
[21:23] <NoklaM> i mean to send it for review
[21:24] <flocculant> NoklaM: I'm not sure what you're doing there - but you sent the old stuff again ;)
[21:24] <NoklaM> argh
[21:24] <NoklaM> no way
[21:24] <flocculant> are you making sure the local branch is up to date when you start work on a new one?
[21:25] <NoklaM> How do i do that?
[21:25] <NoklaM> Must have missed that bit
[21:25] <flocculant> not sure it's written down anywhere in the QA pages
[21:26] <flocculant> run bzr pull in the local copy
[21:26] <NoklaM> bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged. Use the missing command to see how.
[21:26] <NoklaM> Use the merge command to reconcile them.
[21:26] <NoklaM> sorry for paste
[21:27] <NoklaM> i have no idea what that means
[21:27] <flocculant> NoklaM: rename your local copy to something else so you don't lose it
[21:27] <flocculant> then grab the branch again so you know you've a clean copy with bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests
[21:27] <flocculant> then copy the new test into it
[21:27] <NoklaM> the whole folder?
[21:28] <flocculant> I don't know what you mean :)
[21:28] <flocculant> rename the copy of ubuntu-manual-tests to something else
[21:28] <NoklaM> ah ok
[21:28] <flocculant> then grab it again
[21:29] <flocculant> when you push, please push to lp:~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug1184745 for that record one
[21:30] <flocculant> when you do the next one - make it a new one :)
[21:30] <NoklaM> Eh now i forgot how to grab a whole directory
[21:30] <flocculant> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests
[21:30] <NoklaM> ag ty
[21:30] <NoklaM> ah*
[21:31] <flocculant> and it will have diverged as you didn't have an up to date copy - all the things that you did yesterday were changed when I merged them with a new name :)
[21:32] <flocculant> you think krita is called krita - it's not anymore, it's 1664_krita :)
[21:35] <NoklaM> ok so did that branch thing then bzr add file, then bzr commit -m "blah blah" file and now I think i'm ready to push it
[21:35] <NoklaM> just making sure i did all right up to now
[21:35] <flocculant> sounds right
[21:37] <NoklaM> i think it worked
[21:37] <flocculant> it did :)
[21:37] <NoklaM> ./fingerscrossed
[21:37] <NoklaM> Yay! :D
[21:37] <NoklaM> now please give 30 karma haha
[21:38] <NoklaM> 33 :P
[21:39] <flocculant> This test ill check ...
[21:39] <NoklaM> D'oh
[21:39] <flocculant> fix that and push it again to the same place :)
[21:41] <NoklaM> fixed :D
[21:41] <NoklaM> Odd that the spell checker didn't get that
[21:42] <NoklaM> wish there was a linux version of grammarly
[21:42] <flocculant> why would it - ill is a word :)
[21:42] <NoklaM> d'oh
[21:42] <NoklaM> true
[21:42] <NoklaM> was that worth 33 karma points?
[21:43] <NoklaM> haha probaly not
[21:43] <NoklaM> s/porbably
[21:45] <flocculant> all done
[21:45] <flocculant> so you can now run bzr pull and it should grab the new one
[21:49] <NoklaM> But rename/delete this one so it doesn't collide
[21:49] <NoklaM> ?
[21:49] <flocculant> no - just bzr pull first
[21:49] <flocculant> then look in /Studio see what you've got there
[21:50] <NoklaM> ah i see 1666_record*
[21:50] <NoklaM> so no need to remove every time
[21:50] <flocculant> nope
[21:51] <flocculant> assuming you do them one at a time ofc
[21:51] <flocculant> and that someone has merged it :)
[21:51] <flocculant> anyway - time for me to wander off into the night :)
[21:51] <NoklaM> Ok, have a good night :)
[21:51] <NoklaM> and thanks
[21:51] <flocculant> welcome :)
[21:52] <NoklaM> OvenWerks, you working on a custom DE theme or visuals?
[21:59] <sakrecoer_> Greetings NoklaM !! welcome!! what i vibbrant backlog i the IRC today! makes me happy :)
[21:59] <NoklaM> Hey hey sakrecoer_ :)
[21:59] <NoklaM> thanks
[22:00] <sakrecoer_> thanks right back at ya! :)
[22:00] <sakrecoer_> i'm fairly new arround too..
[22:01] <NoklaM> so much to learn o.O really I've learned a lot since yesterday
[22:01] <NoklaM> i can uze bzr like a pro /joke
[22:01] <sakrecoer_> yeah dude! you rock!
[22:02] <sakrecoer_> i'm serious tho!
[22:02] <NoklaM> thanks /blush /blush
[22:03] <sakrecoer_> i'm probably one of the least technical in the team...
[22:03] <NoklaM> I can't decide: Do I want to make things nice looking (css/html/general frontend) or do I want to make em functional with programming
[22:04] <NoklaM> I'm considering a career change
[22:04] <NoklaM> Honestly probably whatever I pick will be better than a Store clerk
[22:06] <sakrecoer_> maybe they go hand in hand? making things nice looking functional, to leave the store clerk?
[22:06] <sakrecoer_> again.. maybe better: _functional things that also look nice_
[22:06] <sakrecoer_> :)
[22:07] <NoklaM> Hehe that would be actually awesome, but my time is limited to a year of self study
[22:07] <sakrecoer_> i see. you have it invest it wisely then.
[22:07] <sakrecoer_> your time
[22:08] <NoklaM> Yup, got a year before I'm 30
[22:08] <sakrecoer_> :) i'm 35
[22:08] * sakrecoer_ is a happy robot
[22:09] <NoklaM> Oh nice, not that far age wise
[22:10] <sakrecoer_> ye. i like life. :)
[22:10] <NoklaM> Eh life, I won't start on that one
[22:10] <sakrecoer_> :)
[22:11] <NoklaM> Gives you lemons, straight in the eyes, without a warning and you got 10 seconds to react or they burst
[22:11] <sakrecoer_> haha!
[22:11] <sakrecoer_> so these test cases, how it work?
[22:12] <sakrecoer_> (^^,)
[22:12] <NoklaM> There is like some programs that need testing, like a write up, Do they run and do they have basic functionality
[22:12] <NoklaM> For the 16.04 release that is
[22:13] <sakrecoer_> yeah! cool! you seem to have pace! and i don't realy, but i want to help. say i want to test fontforge, how do i proceed?
[22:13] <NoklaM> oh my, let me find my notes :P
[22:13] <sakrecoer_> i have the dev install open and stuff :)
[22:13] <NoklaM> do you have launchpad account
[22:14] <NoklaM> ?
[22:17] <sakrecoer_> sorry
[22:17] <sakrecoer_> battery died :D
[22:17] <NoklaM> no worries :P
[22:17] <NoklaM> happens, unless you have chromebook
[22:17] <sakrecoer_> ye! launchpad check :)
[22:17] <NoklaM> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[22:17] <NoklaM> that's what needs testing
[22:18] <NoklaM> but now comes the bzr part
[22:18] <sakrecoer_> readin
[22:18] <NoklaM> Do you have your identity set in bzr?
[22:18] <NoklaM> and ssh key for launchpad?
[22:19] <sakrecoer_> key check, bzr... unsure..
[22:19] <NoklaM> ok... bzr is kinda funny
[22:19] <NoklaM> let's try and guide you through it painlessly
[22:20] <sakrecoer_> man:ing myself to conclusions
[22:20] <sakrecoer_> yep... bzr check
[22:20] <sakrecoer_> ssh key check
[22:20] <NoklaM> http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/
[22:20] <NoklaM> do the first two steps :)
[22:21] <sakrecoer_> thanks!
[22:23] <NoklaM> once you do that type: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests
[22:23] <NoklaM> ./fingerscrosseditworks and i didn't mess up
[22:23] <NoklaM> that should download the branch to your local hdd
[22:29] <NoklaM> also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Manual
[22:33] <sakrecoer_> ./fingerscrosseditworks executed and ran fine!
[22:33] <sakrecoer_> :)
[22:34] <NoklaM> now you can navigate to ubuntu-manual-tests/testcases/packages/Studio/
[22:34] <NoklaM> Create your files in that folder :)
[22:35] <NoklaM> Also you can check the ones that are already there
[22:35] <NoklaM> + read the style guide on the offical wiki i linked :D
[22:35] <sakrecoer_> great!! thanks!!
[22:37] <NoklaM> when you save your work you have to commit on it with changes done
[22:37] <NoklaM> it's done by bzr commit -m "Text of what you did goes here" filename
[22:37] <NoklaM> where filename = the actual name of the file you created
[22:39] <NoklaM> oh before you do that tho : bzr add fileyouworkingon
[22:39] <NoklaM> sorry forgot about that part
[22:51] <sakrecoer_> Thank you very much NoklaM !
[22:52] <OvenWerks> NoklaM: just some menuing ideas.
[22:52] <NoklaM> OvenWerks, I might be able to help if you need any
[22:52] <OvenWerks> have you compared whisker to the panel menu?
[22:52] <NoklaM> Whiskers?
[22:53] <OvenWerks> on the iso (and in xubuntu) they now use whiskermenu
[22:53] <OvenWerks> There are some nice things about whiskermenu
[22:53] <NoklaM> I've only ever heard whiskers used in reference to a cat o.O
[22:53] <OvenWerks> However, it can be harder to use as well
[22:54] <OvenWerks> Whisker is a great menu for a lite desktop, but takes more mouse clicks to handle sub menus
[22:55] <OvenWerks> Studio uses a lot of submenus
[22:55] <OvenWerks> Studio is not lite, but set up to be productive
[22:56] <NoklaM> oh you mean the side arrows on the actual categories is that right?
[22:56] <OvenWerks> by having all the tools needed close at hand. Submenus allow the menu not to get so cluttered
[22:57] <NoklaM> That's true
[22:59] <NoklaM> I was wondering, i seen it be done in few distros, a big whole screen transparent popup with all the app and categories on the side, search on top and all the apps in mid
[23:00] <sakrecoer_> i think xfce is great. but the ideal would be to be able to pull ubuntustudio from any flavour, and have an integrated sollution for the VAST amount of software it gives :)
[23:00] <sakrecoer_> integrated menu-sollution even
[23:00] <OvenWerks> NoklaM: take the audio menu for example, there is a midi submenu. With the old style menu the mouse just huvering can navigate to an item in the midi submenu. With whisker that is not possible
[23:02] <NoklaM> grr it badly needs a show desktop options too, just spent a minute closing all the windows
[23:02] <OvenWerks> I wanted to try having the main menu, but also in the panel have the main workflow menus beside it. just to see if that was somthing that would grab people.
[23:02] <OvenWerks> Also to have both kinds of menu side by side so that people can try them out at the same time and see which kind they find themselves reaching for.
[23:04] <NoklaM> In all honesty, Studio is great, but... the visuals don't follow the awesome internals
[23:04] <NoklaM> wb OvenWerks
[23:04] <NoklaM> In all honesty, Studio is great, but... the visuals don't follow the awesome internals
[23:06] <NoklaM> I was expecting, before i even seen it, something more flashy
[23:06] <sakrecoer_> it seems to be a difficult task to keep things homogenic in a free environement :)
[23:07] <sakrecoer_> the landing graphics could be defenitly be streamlined. we realy should give a sweet look, its lts after all.
[23:08] <sakrecoer_> but beyond having an operational desktop that looks good packaged with it, look at each software we have: blender, ardour, gimp... its unhomogenifiable :D
[23:13] <NoklaM> Trying to make a mock but all my photoshop shortcuts are way difrent in gimp xD
[23:14] <sakrecoer_> hehe muscle memory :)
[23:15] <sakrecoer_> NoklaM: are you bart from the list?
[23:15] <NoklaM> Aye :)
[23:15] <sakrecoer_> :)
[23:16] <sakrecoer_> cool! my name is set
[23:16] <NoklaM> Nice to meet you Set :0
[23:16] <NoklaM> :)
[23:17] <sakrecoer_> likewise! help is needed with the graphics, so your ideas are as wanted and welcome as you :)
[23:21] <NoklaM> any idea how do i resterize a layer in gimp?
[23:22] <NoklaM> got it nvm
[23:23] <sakrecoer_> rasterize in what sense?
[23:23] <NoklaM> Was just discard text info and get it to become a normal layer :P
[23:29] <sakrecoer_> in the bzr branch of ubuntu-manualtest, if there is a file, it means someone has tested it right?
[23:33] <NoklaM> yup
[23:33] <NoklaM> you make a new one without the number and name it after the program you're testing :)
[23:36] <NoklaM> http://imgur.com/1rvSTvT <--- OvenWerks that's something i was thinking off, that could solve a lot of problems
[23:36] <NoklaM> or create a lot more i dunno
[23:36] <NoklaM> don't mind the bad quality it's my first go at gimp
[23:37] <NoklaM> If anything unclear I'll explain
[23:38] <NoklaM> also i had one icon :(
[23:57] <OvenWerks> NoklaM: I am looking at the link above... what am I seeing?
[23:57] <NoklaM> That's the state of the menu after pressing the current logo on the left (my imagination tho)
[23:58] <NoklaM> A big search and icons in a A-Z format which can be customized to Most used and Favourited ones 1st
[23:58] <NoklaM> concept basicly
[23:59] <NoklaM> Scrolling could be done with a flicker of the mouse or just standard scroll
[23:59] <OvenWerks> search for what?
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[00:41] <mup> Bug #1521017 opened: adding a ssh key to juju does not take a file path <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521017>
[00:41] <mup> Bug #1521020 opened: juju authorized-keys import fails without any output <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521020>
[00:44] <mup> Bug #1521017 changed: adding a ssh key to juju does not take a file path <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521017>
[00:44] <mup> Bug #1521020 changed: juju authorized-keys import fails without any output <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521020>
[00:54] <davecheney> https://github.com/godbus/dbus/issues/45
[00:54] <davecheney> no love
[00:54] <davecheney> guess we'll be fixing that one
[00:55] <davecheney> quit
[00:56] <mup> Bug #1521017 opened: adding a ssh key to juju does not take a file path <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521017>
[00:56] <mup> Bug #1521020 opened: juju authorized-keys import fails without any output <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521020>
[01:54] <menn0> wallyworld or axw: I suspect this might make you happy: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3269/
[01:54] <wallyworld> yay
[01:55] <wallyworld> menn0: i did go to review your PR from last week but it already had a shipit by the time i got there
[01:56] <menn0> wallyworld: yep, no worries. already landed. this new one depended on that one.
[02:01] <wallyworld> menn0: lgtm
[02:04] <menn0> wallyworld: cheers
[02:21] <axw> wallyworld: BTW, I've renamed params.RelationUnitsChange to params.RemoteRelationUnitsChange, because we'll use tokens and so on
[02:21] <wallyworld> ok
[02:21] <axw> wallyworld: so I think there shouldn't be a concern about overlap with the existing RelationUnitsChange any more
[02:22] <wallyworld> that sounds right
[04:33] <menn0> axw: could you have a quick look at this one please: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3270/
[04:33] <axw> menn0: sure
[04:33] <menn0> axw: there's another upgradesteps cleanup PR ready straight after this one
[04:37] <axw> menn0: LGTM
[04:37] <menn0> axw: cheers
[04:56] <menn0> axw: last cleanup PR here: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3271/
[04:57] <axw> looking
[05:05] <axw> menn0: done
[05:48] <menn0> axw: thanks
[09:00] <frobware> jam: rebooting... be there in a bit...
[09:11] <voidspace> dimitern: looks like I finally connected...
[09:16] <dimitern> voidspace, welcome ;)
[09:22] <voidspace> dimitern: shall I just recreate that branch based on a clean patch?
[09:22] <voidspace> dimitern: no need for you to do it
[09:24] <dimitern> voidspace, yes please - that will be easiest I think
[09:24] <voidspace> doing it
[09:34] <voidspace> dimitern: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3273/
[09:34] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers, looking
[09:34] <voidspace> dimitern: it's already had a "Ship It" as a previous PR, so need to look again particularly
[09:34] <voidspace> dimitern: I'm doing a full test run here
[09:34] <voidspace> dimitern: and we need to talk about implementation strategy for listing spaces on bootstrap
[09:34] <voidspace> dimitern: we can topic that at/after standup though
[09:35] <dimitern> voidspace, LGTM
[09:35] <dimitern> voidspace, sure
[09:38] <voidspace> dimitern: ta
[09:38] <voidspace> dimitern: waiting for the test run here to finish before I hit $$merge$$
[09:40] <dimitern> voidspace, ack
[09:45] <voidspace> anyone seen this failure with the lxd client test?
[09:45] <voidspace> ERROR juju.utils cannot find network interface "lxcbr0": no such network interface
[09:45] <voidspace> this is on maas-spaces feature branch, so there may already be a fix on master that we haven't picked up
[10:01] <voidspace> jam: fwereade: dimitern: standup?
[10:01] <dimitern> frobware, voidspace, fwereade, omw - 1m
[10:33] <voidspace> frobware: I need coffee
[10:34] <frobware> voidspace, me too. 5 mins?
[10:35] <voidspace> frobware: sounds good
[10:41] <voidspace> frobware: ready when you are
[11:29] <voidspace> frobware: I get the same failures on master, so no *requirement* for an urgent rebase
[11:29] <frobware> voidspace, ack
[13:26] <perrito666> hello all btw
[14:46] <mup> Bug #1519527 opened: juju 1.25.1: lxc units all have the same IP address <openstack> <sts> <uosci> <juju-core:New> <MAAS:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS trunk:Triaged by mpontillo> <juju-core (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519527>
[14:46] <mup> Bug #1521217 opened: TestWorkerAcceptsBrokenRelease fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core cross-model-relations:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521217>
[14:55] <mup> Bug #1521220 opened: TestShortPollIntervalExponent fails <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521220>
[15:01] <mup> Bug #1521220 changed: TestShortPollIntervalExponent fails <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521220>
[15:03] <cherylj> dimitern: is the issue with bug 1519527 just that in 1.25.1 juju uses some new MAAS functionality which is not working as expected?
[15:03] <mup> Bug #1519527: juju 1.25.1: lxc units all have the same IP address - changed to claim_sticky_ip_address <openstack> <sts> <uosci> <juju-core:New> <MAAS:Triaged
[15:03] <mup> by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS trunk:Triaged by mpontillo> <juju-core (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519527>
[15:03] <dimitern> cherylj, that's my understanding (proved by mpontillo as well)
[15:04] <dimitern> or at least observed to not work as expected
[15:04] <cherylj> dimitern: what about other levels of MAAS? does the functionality exist on older levels, but works there?
[15:06] <dimitern> cherylj, yes, it exists in 1.8 and is confirmed to work there as expected, so it's a maas 1.9beta2+ regression
[15:06] <cherylj> dimitern: thanks!
[15:16] <mup> Bug #1521220 opened: TestShortPollIntervalExponent fails <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521220>
[15:17] <cherylj> dimitern: sorry to bug you again :) a note from mgz indicated that you might be working on bug 1516989?
[15:18] <mup> Bug #1516989: juju status <service_name> broken <sts> <juju-core:Triaged by cherylj> <juju-core (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516989>
[15:18] <beisner> hi cherylj, dimitern - i just re-deployed with MAAS 1.9b2 + Juju 1.25.0, and all lxc units get unique and working IP addresses. With 1.9b2 + 1.25.1, all lxc units get the same IP. While it may be an underlying MAAS bug, there is definitely a regression in 1.25.1 Juju. Will be adding a generic non-openstack reproducer as soon as this next deploy wraps up.
[15:18] <dimitern> cherylj, I haven't started yet, but I plan to start tomorrow on that one
[15:18] <dimitern> beisner, it's still a maas issue
[15:18] <dimitern> beisner, hey btw :)
[15:18] <beisner> dimitern, i don't disagree.
[15:19] <cherylj> dimitern: okay, I can pass it off to onyx since they're on bug squad
[15:19] <dimitern> beisner, you can verify by trying to create a device + parent and then claim-sticky-ip-address for it
[15:19] <beisner> dimitern, but i do know that if 1.25.1 lands, my lab will be borked. i presume others who are less-automated will eventually see it too.
[15:19] <cherylj> beisner: yeah, we don't plan on moving 1.25.1 out of proposed until the MAAS fix has been released
[15:20] <beisner> cherylj, much appreciated
[15:22] <rick_h_> cherylj: beisner <3 ty both for working through that.
[15:37] <frobware> dimitern, voidspace: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3275/ - I'm still doing some manual testing against MAAS 1.8/1.9 and precise, trustu, vivid & wily but if you could take an initial look would be appreciated.
[15:37] <katco> /
[15:37] <katco> /
[15:37] <dimitern> frobware, sure, looking
[15:38] <voidspace> frobware: cool
[15:54] <beisner> o/ rick_h_ yw, happy to help exercise these things
[16:16] <dimitern> frobware, ping
[16:17] <frobware> dimitern, pong
[16:18] <dimitern> frobware, I'm a bit confused - do we use bash or python or both?
[16:18] <frobware> dimitern, boht
[16:18] <frobware> both
[16:19] <frobware> dimitern, I could do 90% python. in fact I did for a while. but we will always need the bash shim to run the python script.
[16:19] <frobware> dimitern, want to HO?
[16:19] <dimitern> frobware, right
[16:19] <dimitern> frobware, got it
[16:20] <dimitern> frobware, can do a HO, but the script looks fine
[16:20] <frobware> dimitern, let's do 10 mins anyway. would be good to talk about it.
[16:20] <dimitern> frobware, ok
[16:21] <frobware> dimitern, standup HO?
[16:21] <dimitern> frobware, sure, omw
[16:40] <mpontillo> cherylj: dimitern: I'm currently fixing a separate issue in MAAS IP allocation which is blocking me from fully triaging, but from what I saw last week, it's a MAAS issue
[16:40] <cherylj> thanks, mpontillo
[16:42] <mpontillo> cherylj, I think dimitern and Andreas were going to re-setup their MAAS setup from scratch just to be sure though; did that happen?
[16:42] <cherylj> mpontillo: I'm not sure. dimitern?
[16:54] <voidspace> dimitern: ping if you're still around
[17:03] <dimitern> mpontillo, I have rc2 installed from scratch in lxc, will test with it tomorrow as I'm fixing the related juju bug
[17:03] <dimitern> cherylj, ^^
[17:03] <dimitern> voidspace, pong
[17:04] <frobware> cherylj, I have a LGTM on 1516891 - is 1.25.2 going to be cut today?
[17:04] <dimitern> frobware, cherylj, I'd wait for that until tomorrow TBO
[17:04] <cherylj> frobware: I'm not sure. There are a couple bugs we're looking at for that cutoff
[17:04] <dimitern> TBH even
[17:06] <frobware> cherylj, if the answer is "possibly not" I might implement some changes dimitern and I just talked about and do some additional testing tomrrow.
[17:06] <cherylj> frobware: that should be fine
[17:11] <voidspace> dimitern: I may not need you...
[17:12] <jam> voidspace: how could you say such a thing
[17:12] <jam> we all need dimitern
[17:12] <dimitern> :D
[17:12] <voidspace> :-)
[17:26] <mup> Bug #1521267 opened: After upgrade juju status no longer works <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521267>
[17:35] <mup> Bug #1521267 changed: After upgrade juju status no longer works <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521267>
[17:53] <mup> Bug #1521267 opened: After upgrade juju status no longer works <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521267>
[17:56] <mup> Bug #1521267 changed: After upgrade juju status no longer works <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521267>
[17:59] <mup> Bug #1519403 opened: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:New for thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[18:05] <mup> Bug #1519403 changed: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:New for thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[18:08] <mup> Bug #1519403 opened: 1.24 upgrade does not set environ-uuid <juju-core:New for thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519403>
[18:58] <natefinch> well that only took 4 hours of retries.
[19:16] <perrito666> natefinch: ?
[19:17] <natefinch> connecting to freenode
[19:18] <perrito666> ah, yes DoS
[19:54] <perrito666> could anyone run go test -gocheck.list=true github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud/agent/... and paste me their output?
[20:05] <davecheney> ping, anyone on call reviewer today ? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3266/
[20:08] <perrito666> Ill review it
[20:10] <perrito666> davecheney: ship it
[20:14] <davecheney> perrito666: ta
[20:20] <thumper> morning
[20:21] <natefinch> morning thumper
[20:21] <alexisb> morning thumper
[20:23] <thumper> davecheney: hey, look master is cursed due to the race build
[20:24] <thumper> davecheney: I'm hoping we actually caught something new and not a mistake
[20:24] <thumper> oh
[20:24] <thumper> http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/3375/job/run-unit-tests-race/attempt/630
[20:24] <thumper> not a race
[20:24] <thumper> just a different failure
[21:14] <mup> Bug #1517992 changed: juju-upgrade to 1.24.7 leaves juju state server unreachable <juju-core:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517992>
[21:14] <mup> Bug #1521327 opened: API client talking to 1.22 server failed: method Service(1).ServicesDeploy is not implemented <api> <ci> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521327>
[21:33] <katco> wwitzel3: ericsnow: sorry i'm taking so long; nothing for you today. we'll have lots to discuss in tomorrow's standup
[21:44] <mup> Bug #1521354 opened: juju should check common failure conditions before upgrading <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521354>
[21:46] <menn0> cherylj, davecheney: did you notice that the race detector CI job is failing due to a shell script issue: http://data.vapour.ws/juju-ci/products/version-3370/run-unit-tests-race/build-627/consoleText
[21:46] <wwitzel3> katco: ok, np
[21:47] <mup> Bug #1521354 changed: juju should check common failure conditions before upgrading <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521354>
[21:50] <mup> Bug #1521354 opened: juju should check common failure conditions before upgrading <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521354>
[22:05] <davecheney> thumper: yup, sadly not a real failure, just fat fingers
[22:14] <mup> Bug #1513492 opened: add-machine with vsphere triggers machine-0: panic: juju home hasn't been initialized <add-machine> <panic> <vsphere> <juju-core:Triaged by s-matyukevich> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513492>
[22:16] <davecheney> thumper: xenial, go 1.5 build is not passing
[22:16] <davecheney> s/not/now
[22:17] <thumper> \o/
[22:18] <mup> Bug #1513492 changed: add-machine with vsphere triggers machine-0: panic: juju home hasn't been initialized <add-machine> <panic> <vsphere> <juju-core:Triaged by s-matyukevich> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513492>
[22:21] <mup> Bug #1513492 opened: add-machine with vsphere triggers machine-0: panic: juju home hasn't been initialized <add-machine> <panic> <vsphere> <juju-core:Triaged by s-matyukevich> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513492>
[22:23] <davecheney> thumper: juju/container contains it's own on disk lock ....
[22:25] <davecheney> thumper: in addition to juju/utils.fslock ...
[22:33] <thumper> ugh
[22:33] <thumper> hang on
[22:33] <thumper> I added that
[22:33] <thumper> wait
[22:33] <thumper> wat?
[22:33] <davecheney> yup
[22:33] <thumper> a different lock type?
[22:33] <davecheney> slightly different
[22:33] <davecheney> but not different enough
[22:43] <davecheney> thumper: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3859
[22:45] <mup> Bug #1521327 changed: API client talking to 1.22 server failed: method Service(1).ServicesDeploy is not implemented <api> <ci> <regression> <juju-ci-tools:New> <juju-core:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521327>
[22:45] <thumper> davecheney: there are issues with this, but I'm otp right now
[22:46] <davecheney> mkay
[22:46] * davecheney waits
[22:57] <mup> Bug #1521327 opened: API client talking to 1.22 server failed: method Service(1).ServicesDeploy is not implemented <api> <ci> <regression> <juju-ci-tools:New> <juju-core:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521327>
[23:00] <mup> Bug #1521327 changed: API client talking to 1.22 server failed: method Service(1).ServicesDeploy is not implemented <api> <ci> <regression> <juju-ci-tools:New> <juju-core:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521327>
[23:11] <perrito666> sinzui: ping
[23:12] <davecheney> thumper: ping, still otp ?
[23:12] <thumper> yes
[23:14] <davecheney> mkay
[23:15] <wallyworld> anastasiamac: axw: perrito666: 1 minute late, finishing another meeting
[23:15] * perrito666 clocks wallyworld to make sure its 1 minute
[23:16] <sinzui> perrito666: otp
[23:19] <thumper> davecheney: off the phone now, gimmie 5 minutes?
[23:20] <davecheney> sure
[23:20] <sinzui> hi perrito666
[23:21] <perrito666> sinzui: hi, I just came back from a short week off and am curious about the mongo3 package :)
[23:21] <sinzui> perrito666: still working on it. I am right now looking at "testbed auxverb failed with exit code 255"
[23:22] <perrito666> lovely
[23:23] <sinzui> perrito666: I think it will be a few more days to see packages being used in tests. We are still waiting on arm hardware, so we wont be sure we are done until it is available to us (which shoudl be this week)
[23:23] <perrito666> k, tx a lot, just needed a status upgrade
[23:24] <thumper> davecheney: 1:1 hangout?
[23:25] <davecheney> thumper: why
[23:25] <thumper> fine, I"ll just put it here
[23:25] <davecheney> thanks
[23:26] <thumper> I believe that the lock in container prefers flock, and falls back to fslock on windows
[23:26] <thumper> and was done because there were too many failures with fslock during container template creation
[23:26] <thumper> I'm going to email juju-dev about replacing fslock
[23:27] <thumper> I think we are spending too much time trying to fix a broken system
[23:27] <thumper> instead of investing a little effort into making a good, OS agnostic, dies with the process, lock
[23:27] <thumper> email coming soon from me about that
[23:28] <davecheney> thumper: no argument there
[23:28] <davecheney> i've said I want to use the linux facility to do this
[23:28] <davecheney> sure, it's linux only
[23:29] <davecheney> but really, so is juju to a first approximation
[23:29] <davecheney> wrt most of that PR
[23:29] <thumper> What I want is an OS abstraction
[23:29] <davecheney> i argue it's still fine to move that coed out of container
[23:29] <davecheney> thumper: sure
[23:29] <thumper> davecheney: your branch doesn't change the package name of the windows build file
[23:29] <davecheney> but if you want it to be os agnostic that will come with a reduced readter set
[23:29] <thumper> it'll fail for windows
[23:29] <davecheney> right, tahnks
[23:29] <davecheney> i'll fix that
[23:29] <davecheney> reduced 'feature' set
[23:30] <thumper> I'm fine with that
[23:30] <davecheney> thinks like fslock.IsLocked is racy
[23:30] <davecheney> it cannot be used safely
[23:30] <sinzui> davecheney: the xenial unit tests vote. you rock
[23:30] <davecheney> for hte same reason there is no os.IsExists
[23:30] <davecheney> sinzui: thanks
[23:30] <sinzui> davecheney: is it difficult to do the same for 1.25 which will get a few more releases?
[23:30] <thumper> davecheney: some of the fslock "features" were added because they could, not because they should
[23:30] <thumper> also
[23:31] <davecheney> thumper: precisely
[23:31] <thumper> they were added to work around the problem of the lock not being released when the process dies
[23:31] <davecheney> i want to kill the with fire
[23:31] * sinzui wants wily unit tests on master passing more that 1.25 on xenial
[23:31] <davecheney> sinzui: no idea
[23:31] <davecheney> but I can look at the failures
[23:48] * thumper heading out for dogwalk
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[08:35] <dholbach> good morning
[08:57] <lpotter> Sleep_Walker: there is an app in ubuntu store called SensorStatus. it has some detailed info on the gps
[08:57] <Sleep_Walker> lpotter: thanks, I already found that one
[08:58] <Sleep_Walker> problem is that it seems that GPS is not always working
[08:58] <Sleep_Walker> I brought it up be enabling it and rebooting phone
[08:59] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, why do you think the gps is not working?
[08:59] <tvoss> mpt, o/
[09:00] <Sleep_Walker> because I can't see any dot on map for really long time, I can't see any data in Sensor Status
[09:01] <Sleep_Walker> really long time means ~1 hour
[09:01] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, are you indoors?
[09:01] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, which device and image are you using?
[09:01] <tvoss> mpt, is ` an apostrophe?
[09:02] <Sleep_Walker> Aquaris E4.5, OTA-8, 20151118.2
[09:02] <lpotter> tvoss: is agps supported?
[09:02] <Sleep_Walker> I'm not sure which numbers are relevant here
[09:02] <tvoss> lpotter, sure, depends on the image and device, though
[09:03] <Sleep_Walker> 20151118-205525
[09:03] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, do you have an active data connection? is wifi enabled?
[09:03] <Sleep_Walker> phone was behind the window
[09:03] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, are you happy to shell into the phone?
[09:03] <Sleep_Walker> absolutely :)
[09:04] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, mind running sudo ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test and pastebinning the output?
[09:04] <mpt> tvoss, no, that’s a backtick. A typographical apostrophe ’ is U+2019
[09:05] * tvoss searches keyboard
[09:06] <mpt> tvoss, with the “English (Macintosh)” layout it’s Option + Shift + ]. Not so easy in non-Mac layouts, unfortunately.
[09:07] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, please note that the test may take some time as it tries to get a gps fix three times from cold start (without aiding data)
[09:08] <Sleep_Walker> OK
[09:08] <tvoss> ’
[09:08] <tvoss> mpt, correct?
[09:09] <Sleep_Walker> I'm preparing WiFi connection to do the test through SSH
[09:09] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, didn't you have one before?
[09:09] <Sleep_Walker> my test was yesterday in the evening
and at that time I was on different network </unimportant>
[09:10] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, ah okay
[09:13] <Sleep_Walker> btw. is there something like xdotool for Mir?
[09:13] <Sleep_Walker> I miss such tool very much
[09:14] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, nope, on purpose :) That being said, you can certainly come up with your own input method to support the use case
[09:15] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, on purpose as it leverages a testing api in X. We would rather encourage developers to plug into the input method channels for such use-cases
[09:16] <Sleep_Walker> I'm still too far from ubuntu sdk and ubuntu touch api so any solution already made could save me time :/
[09:20] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, nothing available, yet
[09:22] * mcphail is giving up on OTA8 and trying rc-proposed
[09:23] <tvoss> mcphail, which issue(s) are you facing?
[09:23] <mcphail> tvoss: awful battery life
[09:23] <tvoss> mcphail, do you use tweakgeek?
[09:24] <mcphail> tvoss: I did, but I've tried without tweakgeeking anything
[09:24] <tvoss> mcphail, okay, do you use the music app routinely?
[09:25] <mcphail> is tweakgeek a problem?
[09:25] <mcphail> tvoss: not every day. Didn't use it yesterday but still had rapid discharge
[09:26] <tvoss> mcphail, okay, did you file a bug?
[09:26] <mcphail> tvoss: I filed a bug against the most frequent finding in my syslog (clock app) in case that was the cause of the battery drain
[09:26] <tvoss> mcphail, got link?
[09:27] <mcphail> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1519543
[09:29] <mpt> tvoss, yes, that’s the one
[09:29] <tvoss> mpt, :) shift+alt gr+N
[09:30] <tvoss> mpt, mp is updtaed
[09:30] <tvoss> updated, even
[09:32] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, any update from the test?
[09:47] <Sleep_Walker> sorry, I was out
[09:47] <Sleep_Walker> let me check
[09:49] <Sleep_Walker> http://sprunge.us/ZjVL
[09:49] <Sleep_Walker> tvoss: ^^
[09:50] <Sleep_Walker> test looks good, it would make sense to tell me which data would be interesting in case of GPS failure so I will collect it next time the problem re-appears
[09:51] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, you want to hand me the output of 'sudo dmesg', 'sudo /system/bin/logcat', all /var/log/ubuntu-location* files, and which app you used for testing
[09:51] <Sleep_Walker> OK, I'll prepare script for such case, thanks
[09:52] <Sleep_Walker> and btw. - I'd love to use Activity Tracker but when I switch the phone off, it stops logging - is there something I could do about that?
[09:52] <bee_keeper> Hi - anyone here using the telgram app? I'm able to search and add bots using web interface but not the app - am i missing something?
[10:00] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, the behavior is intentional, we are evaluating if/how we can support such use cases without causing excessive battery drain
[10:00] <davmor2> bee_keeper: might not be implemented yet, they went for basic compatibility with the old app, now they can add new features to it with relative ease with the new back end
[10:01] <davmor2> bee_keeper: you might want to double check though on #ubuntu-telegram
[10:01] <Sleep_Walker> tvoss: I understand your point, but I somehow miss the freedom of choice in that
[10:01] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, sure, I can see that point, too. But: integrating both is an art, without impacting the UX for the non-tech-savvy user
[10:02] <Sleep_Walker> tvoss: there should be switch - Give me full control [on/off] ;)
[10:02] <mpt> hmm, upower -d is not very grep-friendly
[10:02] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, sure, what means full control, though ;)
[10:03] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, so yeah, under investigation, takes time
[10:03] <bee_keeper> davmor2: ok, thanks
[10:03] <Sleep_Walker> tvoss: thanks for caring about that
[10:03] <mpt> Sleep_Walker, see bug 1514329
[10:03] <tvoss> mpt, that's not exactly the same :)
[10:04] <tvoss> mpt, it enables another class of use cases, though
[10:04] <mpt> tvoss, not necessarily, but “wake me up for a moment when I hit the fence” would be
[10:04] <mpt> And I doubt geofences would be that useful otherwise
[10:05] <tvoss> mpt, well, activity tracker really is about ongoing monitoring of certain aspects of the system. you could "abuse" geofences to implement that monitoring, but I'm not a fan of that idea :)
[10:05] <Sleep_Walker> mpt: thanks
[10:06] <Sleep_Walker> I added myself as affected user
[10:07] <mpt> tvoss, according to the store description it’s about monitoring your activity, not the system’s
[10:07] <tvoss> Sleep_Walker, you are not really affected by that specific bug, but feel free
[10:08] <tvoss> mpt, sure, that involve's monitoring the system's location for example
[10:08] <mpt> I don’t think a geofence is an abusive way to track the system’s location :-P
[10:09] <tvoss> mpt, seriously, you are confusing two concepts here
[10:21] <pixel_> Saviq, done http://i.imgur.com/kvNKMvO.jpg but now the fake browser's controls are under the top bar, i can't minimize it.
[10:22] <Saviq> mzanetti, bug #1438465 ↑?
[10:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Computer Security Day! 😃
[10:23] <pixel_> Saviq, i also get a lot of binding loop detected when i resize the unity8's window file:///home/pixel/unity8a/trunk/qml/Stages/SurfaceContainer.qml:54:5: QML MirSurfaceItem: Binding loop detected for property "surfaceWidth"
[10:23] <Saviq> pixel_, isn't it maximized, though? if you click on it?
[10:23] <mzanetti> Saviq, hmm... not sure
[10:24] <mzanetti> there have been lots of changes lately...
[10:24] <mzanetti> yeah... indeed
[10:24] <mzanetti> so far no issue on the screenshot
[10:24] <Saviq> pixel_, ah, browser is fullscreen is all
[10:25] <pixel_> Saviq, if i click on it http://i.imgur.com/lLAFuA4.png
[10:27] <pixel_> yep, the fake browser is fullscreen
[10:27] <Saviq> pixel_, you can drag the launcher in, long-press on the browser icon to get "Close"
[10:27] <Saviq> mzanetti, we should have window controls in panel for fullscreen apps, fwiw ↑
[10:27] <mzanetti> Saviq, no
[10:27] <mzanetti> Saviq, fullscreen on a desktop is fullscreen
[10:28] <mzanetti> press F11 on firefox
[10:28] <Saviq> mzanetti, yes, but you can pull the panel n
[10:28] <Saviq> in
[10:28] <Saviq> mzanetti, I'm not saying it should be always on screen
[10:28] <Saviq> but when you pull it down
[10:28] <mzanetti> pull it down?
[10:28] <Saviq> mzanetti, when fullscreen, you can still go top-edge-swipe for the panel
[10:29] <Saviq> mzanetti, we might enable top-edge-push with mouse, too, TBD
[10:29] <mzanetti> ah, with touch
[10:29] <mzanetti> Saviq, at least firefox on X11 uses top edge stuff on its own
[10:29] <Saviq> mzanetti, yeah, we want it to stop, because it's hell inconsistent everywhere
[10:30] <Saviq> mzanetti, that's what I prototyped and showed off back in Dallas
[10:30] <Saviq> aanyway, before we get there
[10:30] <Saviq> since you can get the panel, it'd be nice for the window controls to be there :)
[10:40] <ogra_> hmm, is it my eayes or did the panel color just chane by a small nuance with todays rc-proposed upgrade ?
[10:40] <ogra_> *change
[10:40] <mzanetti> ogra_, it did change
[10:40] <ogra_> :)
[10:40] <pixel_> ogra_, and the orange line is gone
[10:40] <ogra_> it so minimal that i thought its my brain or so :)
[10:41] <ogra_> oh, yeah, thats sad, i liked it
[10:41] <pixel_> ogra, you can add it back :D (1 line of qml)
[10:42] <ogra_> nah, i'm not *that* attached to it :)
[10:42] <pixel_> :))
[11:06] <tvoss> mardy, I'm tempted to drop http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/location-service/15.04/view/head:/src/location_service/com/ubuntu/location/time_based_update_policy.cpp from the default engine configuration
[11:06] <tvoss> mardy, rationale: I don't think the service is the right place to do the right thing for *all* applications consuming position updates
[11:07] <tvoss> mardy, we could probably think about providing example code to carry out low-pass filtering on the client side, though
[11:07] <tvoss> mardy, what do you think?
[11:21] <elasrofxela> my port finally booting but with no graphics
[11:22] <elasrofxela> any idea what to do next?
[11:22] <elasrofxela> https://github.com/alexforsale/ubtouch-dmesg
[11:22] <mardy> tvoss: it might need some adjustment, but I think that the server side should do that kind of filtering
[11:23] <tvoss> mardy, I think we are not clever enought for that tbh, we would have to do the heavy lifting of fusing with sensor data
[11:23] <mardy> tvoss: I cannot imagine the apps being more clever, TBH :-)
[11:24] <tvoss> mardy, well, not right now, but I'm thinking along the lines of a full-blown navigation app
[11:25] <mardy> tvoss: what problems do you see with the current code?
[11:26] <mardy> tvoss: I also see some problems, but I want to see if we find the same ones :-)
[11:27] <mardy> tvoss: the problem I see is that if the update is coming from the same provider which gave us the last valid update, we should never filter it out
[11:28] <tvoss> mardy, that's one issue: the other is the timeout parameter, which is notoriously difficult to choose
[11:28] <mardy> tvoss: so, for example, it's fine to filter out wifi-based results when they are less accurate than the GPS, but if the last update was from the GPS and now we get a more inaccurate update again from the GPS, we should not filter it
[11:28] <tvoss> mardy, sure, I agree with that
[11:28] <tvoss> mardy, the other bit is: we really should decrease the accuracy of the last update to age it out
[11:29] <mardy> tvoss: and if we move this logic to the client, we should also extend our signals to include some info about the source of the update
[11:29] <tvoss> mardy, and that is something I would like to avoid
[11:29] <mardy> tvoss: yep
[11:30] <mardy> tvoss: indeed, I think that if we don't get new updates from the providers, we should still continuing emitting updates to the client, reusing the last known position with decreased accuracy
[11:31] <mardy> tvoss: BTW, the Qt API allows to specify an update interval; we don't have that in the platform API, do we?
[11:31] <tvoss> mardy, it's hidden, but we have it
[11:33] <mardy> tvoss: so, back to the original point: I think that that code needs some improvements, and might need to be moved in the session class, if we find a reason for which different apps would want it to behave differently; but I strongly feel that it should stay in the server side
[11:35] <tvoss> mardy, okay, so I think a reasonable first step would be to (a.) move to session (not making it configurable right now), (b.) expose enough information to ensure that chains of updates from individual providers are always accepted and propagated
[11:35] <mardy> tvoss: ok
[11:35] <tvoss> mardy, (a.) would give us the opportunity to also integrate a timer that samples the reference position at the requested interval (either faster or slower than actual updates)
[11:37] <mardy> tvoss: indeed, as well as obfuscating the real position to apps that shouldn't be allowed to get an accurate position (in in the future we implement such a policy)
[11:37] <tvoss> mardy, yup
[11:37] <tvoss> mardy, sounds good. ssweeny might take that one once he finishes the async provider stuff
[11:38] <mardy> tvoss: as for (B), after thinking over your suggestion that we should decrease the accuracy of the last update as it ages, I think it might not be needed
[11:39] <tvoss> mardy, well, if the provider delivers faster than expected interval, we sample at a slower pace
[11:39] <tvoss> mardy, which we wouldn#t do in the "aging out" scenario
[11:40] <mardy> tvoss: right
[11:42] <tvoss> mardy, so I think we want a simple Sampler that is periodically invoked
[11:44] <mardy> tvoss: maybe, but I wouldn't like a wake-up timer... I mean, we shouldn't cause more wake-ups than now
[11:44] <mardy> tvoss: just thinking about battery :-)
[11:45] <vitimiti> I'm trying to build and run the Unity 8 shell following this tutorial over here: https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/ but I get an initctl error saying the unity8 process is unknown: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13573548/ Somebody knows how to fix this problem?
[11:46] <tvoss> mardy, well, *if* the session is active, we have to satisfy the client requirement
[11:47] <tvoss> mardy, in which case we need the sampler
[11:47] <tvoss> mardy, it obviously shouldn't run if the session is not active
[11:50] <mardy> tvoss: I mean, suppose that the client wants an update every second, and the GPS gives us an update every 0.97 seconds
[11:50] <tvoss> mardy, in which case the GPS is running and the additional cost of just having an additional wakeup is moot :)
[11:51] <mardy> tvoss: OK, s/GPS/wifi or whatever :-)
[11:51] <tvoss> mardy, still :)
[11:51] <mardy> tvoss: I mean, we should hand out updates when we have them
[11:51] <tvoss> mardy, which is not what the client would expect
[11:51] <tvoss> mardy, *if* we support the frequency flag
[11:52] <nhaines> Ooh, I just flashed my Nexus 7 with ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd. I like it! What is it? :)
[11:52] <mardy> tvoss: well, the client doesn't really have a say in that, it's just a preference
[11:52] <tvoss> mardy, that's not what the qt api suggests, though, iirc
[11:52] <mardy> tvoss: at least the Qt documentation explicitly says that updates could come at any frequency
[11:53] <tvoss> okay, that's difficult to me, tbh
[11:53] <tvoss> either we support it, or not :)
[11:53] <nhaines> Regardless, the Unity 8 theme looks very nice and the window manipulation is nice. The Browser handling touch and mouse different is perfect and I could completely imagine working with the tablet as an impromptu pocket desktop. Which also now I think I know what -pd means.
[11:53] <tvoss> in the sense that: if we support the flag we should implement it such that a developer can rely on the frequency
[11:53] * tvoss claps :)
[11:55] <nhaines> And if *that's* what it is, well, I'm sad that the legacy apps icons are only mockups. :) But seriously, there's plenty of polish still needed (as always with these things, that comes last) but it's a giant leap ahead of OTA-8. Very impressive.
[11:57] <mardy> tvoss: I think we should take the desired interval from all the connected the clients, and start computing updates at a frequency acceptable to all (the minimum among them, I guess)
[11:58] <mardy> tvoss: the if the means that we are waking up every second, but we have one client which only cares for updates every 5 seconds, we can let that client skip some updates
[11:58] <mardy> tvoss: but the main point, is that we should have only one internal timer, and not a timer for each client
[11:59] <tvoss> mardy, let me think about that. I like the idea of the minimum frequency, which we could also propagate to providers (the gps chipset driver supports setting that value)
[12:00] <tvoss> mardy, so how would you force propagation of updates at a later point then?
[12:00] <tvoss> mardy, per session, that is
[12:00] <mardy> tvoss: actually, something like internal_frequency = max(1sec, max_common_divisor([freq_client1, ..., fre_client_N]))
[12:01] <tvoss> mardy, okay, so you propose to reuse the tick of the system, and update per client every frequency / internal_frequency tick
[12:01] <tvoss> correct?
[12:01] <mardy> tvoss: yes
[12:01] <tvoss> mardy, where frequency is the client-specific frequency
[12:02] <mardy> yes, so for every session we store the time of the last update (to that session), and the desired frequency
[12:03] <mardy> tvoss: if enough time has passed, we deliver the update, otherwise we don't
[12:04] <tvoss> mardy, that still leaves us with a fuzzy statement to developers, though
[12:44] <mardy> tvoss: why do you think so? we could still be quite precise with timely delivering updates
[12:44] <tvoss> mardy, that depends on the setup of all clients
[12:45] <mardy> tvoss: well, indeed the first update they receive could come anytime within the first second, but any later update would come at regular intervals from the first
[12:53] <mcphail> My car still can't see my phone via bluetooth, depite running rc-proposed as per https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16864.html . Is there any way to debug this?
[12:54] <davmor2> mcphail: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth
[12:56] <mcphail> davmor2: embarrassingly, I just found that link at the bottom of the link I posted ;)
[12:56] <davmor2> mcphail: yeah I thought it was in there :)
[13:15] <m0n5t3r_1> does anyone have an idea what this means? (from xsession-errors):
[13:15] <m0n5t3r_1> upstart: Failed to spawn application-click (com.ubuntu.terminal_terminal_0.7.140) main process: unable to switch security profile: No such file or directory
[13:16] <ogra_> looks like you are trying to run a click app without having the right environment installed
[13:20] <m0n5t3r> it started doing this not long ago, then I flashed rc-proposed 191 an hour ago and stuff worked; then after it rebooted itself once or twice it's doing it again
[13:20] <m0n5t3r> define "the right environment"
[13:22] <ogra_> it is a phone app
[13:22] <ogra_> so you need a phone environment
[13:22] <ogra_> with all the lockdowns and security bits
[13:22] <m0n5t3r> the only differences from the base thing is /etc/hosts (because no other way to block ads) and /etc/apparmor.d/tunables/global (a line allowing read from /etc/writable/hosts)
[13:23] <m0n5t3r> it is a bq aquaris phone, so I guess that counts as a phone environment
[13:23] <ogra_> you cant run click apps on a desktop witout a lot of tinkering with apparmor and friends
[13:23] <m0n5t3r> not desktop
[13:23] <m0n5t3r> phone
[13:23] <ogra_> you said .xsession-errors
[13:24] <ogra_> there is no X on phoes
[13:24] <ogra_> *phones
[13:24] <m0n5t3r> ... but there is an .xsession-errors in /home/phablet
[13:25] <m0n5t3r> I guess it's a standard thing so unity puts output there
[13:25] <ogra_> not really
[13:25] <nhaines> ogra_: do you know what ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd is? Does it replace ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed on flo? :) (If not, MultiROM Manager is being weird again.)
[13:25] <ogra_> no idea where it comes from or why anything would write to it
[13:25] <ogra_> nhaines, ask sil2100 ... no idea what it is
[13:26] <nhaines> sil2100! :)
[13:26] <ogra_> m0n5t3r, the actual log you are interested in is in ~/.cache/upstart somewhere
[13:26] <sil2100> nhaines: hey! ubuntu-pd is the pocket-desktop experimentation channel
[13:26] <ogra_> ignore ~/.xession-errors
[13:27] <nhaines> sil2100: sounds like just the thing to take up room on my Nexus 7. Unfortunately, Bluetooth is broken on the N7 (in OTA-8 too, not just the pd channel). When can I expect Libertine to show? :)
[13:27] <sil2100> nhaines: pocket-desktop is nothing more than ubuntu-touch + libertine and puritine
[13:27] <nhaines> sil2100: Then Unity 8 snuck in some really nice window manipulation stuff when I wasn't looking. :)
[13:28] <sil2100> nhaines: yeah, the PD effort is being worked on actively ;)
[13:29] <m0n5t3r> ogra_: nothing useful shows up in any .cache/upstart log
[13:29] <m0n5t3r> just unity8 saying it started the terminal, and then that the terminal exited
[13:29] <ogra_> m0n5t3r, and you see that when just tapping on the terminal icon ?
[13:29] <mcphail> how do I copy/paste from the terminal app?
[13:29] <m0n5t3r> yup
[13:29] <ogra_> weird ...
[13:29] <m0n5t3r> not only the terminal
[13:30] <m0n5t3r> nothing works apart from the browser
[13:30] <nhaines> sil2100: it's a giant step up from the rc-proposed stuff. I was quite pleasantly suprised. If LibreOffice Writer ran and Bluetooth worked, I could really use my N7 on the go! :)
[13:30] <m0n5t3r> I'm guessing something crashes
[13:30] <ogra_> that sounds like you broke your apparmor installation
[13:30] <m0n5t3r> gtg, back in a few hours
[13:30] <ogra_> did you install any debs, make it writable or anything like that ?
[13:30] <m0n5t3r> nope
[13:30] <ogra_> wow
[13:30] <ogra_> out of diskspace ?
[13:31] <m0n5t3r> just a line in apparmor.d/tunables saying "/etc/writable/hosts r"
[13:31] <nhaines> sil2100: is there any way I can try out libertine using the -pd channel?
[13:31] <ogra_> you edited apparmor.d/tunables ??
[13:31] <ogra_> like ... directly ?
[13:32] <m0n5t3r> ...
[13:32] * mpt turns off Hotspot and the phone restarts
[13:32] <mpt> Well that‘s weird
[13:32] <ogra_> thats not the place to make something writable
[13:32] <m0n5t3r> mount / -o remount,rw; vi tunables, add line, save; mount / -o remount,ro; reboot
[13:32] <ogra_> yeah, that broke all your apprmor profiles
[13:32] <nhaines> mpt: that seems like an extremely dramatic way to disable hotspot access. :)
[13:32] <m0n5t3r> why?
[13:32] <sil2100> nhaines: best if you reach out bregma or kgunn regarding the usage of the ubuntu-pd channel, they're the ones working on the libertine/puritine effort
[13:32] <m0n5t3r> it's correct
[13:32] <nhaines> sil2100: <3
[13:33] <sil2100> They would know best regarding that ;)
[13:33] <ogra_> m0n5t3r, you would have to regenerate them somehow
[13:33] <m0n5t3r> doesn't it do that on reboot?
[13:33] <ogra_> m0n5t3r, and hacking apparmor is not the way to make something writable
[13:33] <m0n5t3r> nope
[13:33] <m0n5t3r> it is a way to make /etc/writable/hosts readable
[13:33] <ogra_> you want to edit /etc7system-image/writable-paths
[13:33] <ogra_> huh ?
[13:33] <m0n5t3r> really gtg
[13:33] <ogra_> /etc/hosts is definitely readable
[13:34] <ogra_> else nothing would work :)
[13:34] <kgunn> nhaines:
[13:34] <ogra_> (and is a link to the file in 7etc7writable)
[13:34] <vishnudev> Hello guys
[13:34] <kgunn> nhaines: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gfLy7cBHHwZXD0t74tqYpHvw60W5nc_qJoYUiU4A6mo/edit
[13:34] <vishnudev> how to install ubuntu touch on nexus 7 2012?
[13:35] <kgunn> if you want to try
[13:35] <vishnudev> how to install ubuntu touch on nexus 7 2012?
[13:35] <nhaines> vishnudev: it is not available for Nexus 7 2012.
[13:36] <nhaines> kgunn: fantastic! I'll be playing with this a *lot* before Ubucon Summit and SCALE.
[13:36] * popey wonders why his laptop now has ofono installed
[13:37] <popey> well, failed to install
[13:38] <nhaines> kgunn: aww, I don't have access to chinstrap.canonical.com. :)
[13:38] <kgunn> sorry about that....
[13:39] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1521199
[13:40] <vishnudev> nhaines can i build?
[13:40] <nhaines> vishnudev: no; there are no graphics drivers available for the hardware.
[13:42] <vishnudev> oh
[13:42] <vishnudev> but how the old builds working?
[13:42] <nhaines> Ancient version of Ubuntu with a different kernel.
[13:42] <vishnudev> till saucy ?
[13:42] <vishnudev> ok
[13:43] <ogra_> and the point is they did not really work due to the driver
[13:43] <ogra_> which is why the device was completely dropped ... the driver issues were not fixable
[13:44] <nhaines> kgunn: any guesses as to when ubuntu-pd will include puritine?
[13:46] <kgunn> nhaines: hopefully before years end...if not, early in the new year
[13:47] <vishnudev> I am trying to isntall the old saucy in my nexus 7 2012
[13:47] <ogra_> for what ?
[13:47] <ogra_> nothing will run
[13:48] <vishnudev> can i just flash saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip and saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+grouper.zip
[13:48] <vishnudev> I just want a device to try developing apps
[13:48] <ogra_> you surely can ... but you wont be able to install any apps and the majority oif the preinstalled ones are rater in demo state
[13:49] <nhaines> kgunn: Thanks! I'll try to bum a puritine click off of someone later, when I'm supposed to be awake. :)
[13:50] <vishnudev> hmm
[13:50] <vishnudev> its really bad
[13:50] <nhaines> In the meantime, ubuntu-pd is pretty clearly in a development state, but it's a giant leap ahead of the OTA. It's really impressive.
[13:50] <nhaines> So good job to all involved!
[13:51] <vishnudev> I was trying to make a ubuntu touch build for nexus 6
[13:51] <vishnudev> it failed and now bought a n old nexus 6 2012 in hope of installing ubuntu touch
[13:51] <vishnudev> :(
[13:52] <ogra_> nexus 6 ?
[13:52] <ogra_> you mean 7
[13:52] <vishnudev> nexus 6
[13:53] <vishnudev> nexus 7 2012
[13:53] <ogra_> ah
[13:53] <ogra_> well, you should have asked here first ...
[13:53] <ogra_> then you would have been told to buy a 2013 model
[13:54] <vishnudev> yeah
[13:54] <ogra_> (which has completely different HW)
[13:54] <vishnudev> I dint get 2013 here :(
[13:56] <vishnudev> hm
[14:05] <dobey> vishnudev: even if you got the old ubuntu image flashed onto a grouper, it would be so unusable that you wouldn't be able to test any apps on it anyway. and you especially couldn't test any new apps which require newer frameworks
[14:05] <dobey> you could try the x86 emulator instead
[14:07] <vishnudev> ok
[14:44] <Elleo> mzanetti: when you get a chance could you test https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu-keyboard/fix-1451554/+merge/278468 (available in silo 2) and double check it fixes the mouse issues with the OSK in pocket desktop mode?
[14:45] <mzanetti> Elleo, sure
[14:46] <Elleo> mzanetti: great, thanks
[14:53] <popey> awe, one for you? :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1521199
[15:01] <awe> popey, gee thanks
[15:01] <popey> :D
[15:01] <awe> we need to figure out why ofono is being installed by default on the desktop
[15:01] <awe> boiko, ^^
[15:01] <popey> i added the aptitude why to it
[15:01] <popey> it shows why it's installed
[15:01] <awe> k
[15:01] <ogra_> is it by default or did popey just install some autopilot
[15:02] <popey> see bug :)
[15:02] <awe> it *shouldn't* be default
[15:02] <awe> it was a telepathy-related lib in the past that caused this
[15:02] <awe> ( pretty sure )
[15:02] <ogra_> ah, the indicator
[15:02] <popey> yeah
[15:02] <awe> the network indicator?
[15:02] <awe> pete-woods, ^^
[15:03] <popey> indicator-network yes
[15:03] <ogra_> yeah, it is even a direct dep
[15:03] <ogra_> not a recommends or some such
[15:05] <pete-woods> awe: network indicator is not included in the desktop
[15:05] <pete-woods> only on the phone
[15:05] <pete-woods> but it does, indeed depend on ofono
[15:07] <awe> pete-woods, are you sure that's true for xenial?
[15:07] <awe> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1521199
[15:07] <pete-woods> awe: pretty sure? unless it was newly seeded for some reason
[15:07] <pete-woods> awe: it's not even in main, so if it gets into the desktop image, then that's a problem
[15:16] <ogra_> i assume popey has ubuntu-sdk-libs installed ... which depends on qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-push-plugin ... which depends on libconnectivity-qt1 which then depends on indicator-network
[15:17] <popey> i do
[15:17] <pete-woods> that would make sense
[15:17] <pete-woods> it's set up not to start on the desktop (in the upstart session config)
[15:18] <ogra_> well, it might be fine, t7he prob is ofono after all
[15:51] <popey> jdstrand_, when I run an app on my device via ubuntu-app-launch, I get a message in dmesg which implies the app is unconfined (it should not be) - what does this mean? It's a bit scary. [Mon Nov 30 15:31:32 2015] type=1400 audit(1448897492.317:88): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="com.ubuntu.sudoku_sudoku_1.1.392" pid=19539 comm="apparmor_parser"
[15:51] <tyhicks> popey: that audit message is saying that an unconfined process performed an AppArmor profile load
[15:52] <popey> tyhicks, not sure I follow :)
[15:53] <jjohansen> popey: its just logging that a profile got loaded, and the confinement information of the task that loaded the profile
[15:54] <tyhicks> popey: after the app is running, do a `ps auxZ | grep sudoku` and the first column will be the AppArmor profile that is confining the process
[15:54] <jjohansen> in this case, it is the apparmor_parser that is unconfined, not the app run via ubuntu-app-launch
[15:57] <popey> ahh
[15:57] <popey> makes sense, thanks chaps!
[16:02] <popey> tedg, is there something like ubuntu-app-launch which shows stats for startup of a specific app. Like, I launch calculator then run this thing which tells me how long it took to start up fully?
[16:03] <popey> tedg, or is that not measured?
[16:04] <popey> maybe ubuntu-app-watch with some very verbose option?
[16:04] <tedg> popey: It's not measured on a live system. You can enable the LTTng tracepoints and figure it out though.
[16:05] <tedg> popey: But LTTng is blocked by apparmor by default.
[16:05] <popey> ah okay.
[16:05] <tedg> popey: So you need to enable it and rebuild the apparmor profiles.
[16:05] <popey> so on a clean phone - flash - enabled LTTng - rebuild apparmor profiles - install app to be tested - run app...
[16:05] <popey> and gather data from ?
[16:06] <popey> (or is this documented somewhere?)
[16:06] <tedg> popey: http://gould.cx/ted/blog/Measuring_Upstart_App_Launch_using_LTTng
[16:07] <tedg> Wow, that blog post is almost two years old.
[16:07] <tedg> They grow up so fast
[16:07] <popey> oooh!
[16:08] <popey> thanks tedg
[16:09] <jdstrand_> popey: to save you some time-- adjust these: /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof/templates/ubuntu/1*/* to change this line: 'deny /{,var/}run/shm/lttng-ust-* r,' to be: '/{,var/}run/shm/lttng-ust-* r,'
[16:09] <jdstrand_> popey: then run 'sudo aa-clickhook -f'
[16:11] <mwu> Hi
[16:12] <mwu> Does anybody know how to disable the smartscopes (Amazon, Weather, etc.) in Ubuntu Touch?
[16:13] <tedg> BTW, popey I think that brendand was working on something with app startup. Asked me about this recently. You guys might sync.
[16:13] <davmor2> mwu: just don't use them
[16:14] <davmor2> mwu: they only search when you are on that scope
[16:14] <mwu> davmor2: No, I want to remove them completly from the applications menu
[16:15] <davmor2> mwu: they aren't scopes then, they are apps, just long press them and select uninstall
[16:15] <popey> jdstrand, tedg thanks!
[16:16] <mwu> It says that they are installed, but I removed them from the directory /custom/click; but they are still displayed.
[16:17] <k1l> arent the scopes what make ubuntu touch ubuntu touch?
[16:18] <popey> mwu, that's not how you remove things usually.
[16:18] <popey> mwu, "sudo click unregister <click name> <version>" is one way
[16:19] <mwu> com.ubuntu.weather is hidden for user phablet
[16:20] <popey> yup, that's it.
[16:20] <mwu> That's the error message of the command "click unregister com.ubuntu.weather"
[16:20] <popey> the filesystem is read-only so it's somewhat hard to really actually remove it
[16:20] <popey> and if you did, it will probably come back in an over the air update
[16:20] <mwu> popey: You can remount it in read/write mode
[16:20] <popey> i know :)
[16:21] <popey> we generally don't recommend users do that
[16:21] <popey> developers, sure. they break stuff all the time
[16:26] <mwu> Who creates the file remote-scopes.json?
[16:27] <mwu> This file contains all the links to the scopes I want to remove.
[16:46] <popey> mwu, where is that file?
[16:46] <ogra_> mwu, you get that error when you use popeys command including the sudo ?
[16:46] <popey> thats not an error, that's normal
[16:47] <popey> if you click unregister stuff that is in the ro part of the image you get a "hidden" message
[16:47] <ogra_> ah, k ... it does check for the sudo user ?
[16:47] <popey> because it cant remove the app (ro)
[16:47] <popey> dunno what it says without sudo, I only ever run it correctly ;)
[16:47] <ogra_> i was confused about the user name being mentioned in the error
[16:49] <popey> mwu, ahh, ./.cache/unity-scopes/remote-scopes.json ?
[16:49] <mwu> Yes
[16:49] <mwu> But you can delete the file without anything getting broken.
[16:50] <popey> why delete random files?
[16:51] <ogra_> because nothing breaks :)
[16:51] * popey deletes ogra_
[16:51] <popey> \o/ nothing broke
[16:51] <mwu> Because I want to find out, how I can remove the scopes Amazon, Ebay, Reddit, etc.
[16:51] * ogra_ sees the world break
[16:51] <popey> ok, so just do as I said, "sudo click unregister foo version"
[16:52] <mwu> popey: But that doesn't remove the scope. It's still displayed as being installed and you can still start it. I would like to remove it completly
[16:53] <davmor2> popey: don't delete ogra_ it's breaks my blame script which then default all blame to you instead of ogra_
[16:54] <ogra_> !
[16:54] <davmor2> ogra_: I need a backup for when you pretend to be on holiday
[16:54] <ogra_> well, half of december then
[16:55] <popey> mwu, sounds like a bug if you remove something and it doesn't get removed, I'd file a bug..
[16:55] <davmor2> mwu: out of interest why?
[16:57] <mwu> davmor2: I wan't to remove all things I don't need. I just want a thin smartphone with only email, contacts, calender, instant messaging, browser. Nothing else.
[16:59] <davmor2> mwu: but unless you use them they sit there doing nothing, so you can use the very things you want by just putt them in the launcher and ignoring the scopes completely
[17:00] <davmor2> mwu: you can then unfavourite all the scopes you don't use and you won't see them any more
[17:00] <jaywink> not everyone wants "amazon" glaring at them when they scroll the scopes list ;) there defo should be a way to remove any preinstalled stuff ;)
[17:00] <jaywink> that is a huge flaw in many android phones where preinstalled stuff can't be removed
[17:01] <davmor2> jaywink: but it is only active if you open it, and it isn't actually installed it is a remote scope
[17:01] <jaywink> it's still there when you view the scopes list
[17:01] <davmor2> jaywink: yes but unless you click on it it does nothing
[17:02] <jaywink> allow users to hide it sounds like a good deal to me :)
[17:02] <davmor2> jaywink: it is hidden unless you open the scopes list to switch scopes
[17:02] <jaywink> yes, where it annoys me at least, as it does mwu
[17:03] <jaywink> I personally use the scopes switcher quite a lot to view not often used scopes. It is quicker to have them off and use the switcher than to have them on and scroll one by one
[17:03] <jaywink> so amazon is glaring at me quite often
[17:04] <davmor2> jaywink: then file a bug if you haven't
[17:04] <davmor2> and if there isn't one already
[17:05] <jaywink> sure, just helping mwu drive the point ;)
[17:08] <davmor2> jaywink: it isn't though, it is already hidden in the system, it isn't installed so you can't uninstall it, if you hide it and want it later you can't get it back unless there is a hidden section in the scopes manager at which point it would still be listed and have the same effect :D
[17:08] <popey> jdstrand, click-review is crashing on this click for me... http://paste.ubuntu.com/13579250/ - http://people.canonical.com/~alan/docviewer/com.ubuntu.docviewer_0.3.latest_armhf.click any ideas?
[17:10] <jaywink> davmor2, why isn't it packaged and installed as normal btw anyway? seems odd to hard code some store like amazon into the operating system
[17:11] <mwu> Maybe Amazon paid something for that?
[17:12] <davmor2> mwu: nope
[17:12] <jaywink> even worse then ;)
[17:13] <ogra_> well, stop complaining ... file a bug instead ;)
[17:13] <ogra_> to get it fixed
[17:13] * jaywink tries to find the right place all the time .. unless mwu has filed it already
[17:14] <ogra_> "canonical-system-image" worst case
[17:14] <ogra_> thats the meta project
[17:15] <jaywink> ok thanks that sounds like a good place :)
[17:21] <mwu> OK, now I broke it. Need to restore factory image...
[17:22] <jaywink> mwu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1521269 <-- if you want to add yourself as affected
[17:24] <mwu> Thanks for the bug and the description.
[17:27] <dobey> jaywink: unity-scopes-shell would probably be the best place for "unable to hide remote scopes"
[17:27] <jaywink> dobey, ah ok, I'll try to move it if I still can
[17:28] <dobey> and it's not "certain built-in remote scopes" it's just remote scopes
[17:28] <dobey> they aren't built-in, they are just remote
[17:30] <jaywink> dobey, well, built-in in the sense that the list is shipped and cannot be changed
[17:30] <JanC> and I assume they removed all (unwanted) remote scopes that weren't built-in
[17:31] <m0n5t3r_1> ogra_: all right, back home... so, first up: upstart 2073 phablet 2w REG 179,7 1344 40738 /home/phablet/.xsession-errors
[17:31] <m0n5t3r_1> upstart writes to .xsession-errors
[17:31] <m0n5t3r_1> after I removed that line and rebooted, things started to work again
[17:32] <m0n5t3r_1> I still don't understand why, though
[17:32] <dobey> jaywink: the list is not shipped.
[17:33] <m0n5t3r_1> also, /etc/hosts is definitely not a link to /etc/writable/hosts by default, it's a regular file, and
[17:33] <m0n5t3r_1> [ 4748.394197] type=1400 audit(1448904742.457:162): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="webbrowser-app" name="/etc/writable/hosts" pid=11314 comm="WorkerPool/1131" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=0
[17:33] <jaywink> dobey, where does it come from, queried from a server?
[17:34] <m0n5t3r_1> I guess I'll just copy it to /etc/hosts, it's the easiest (albeit unelegant) route
[17:34] <jaywink> but anyway, the point is that the user should have the choice
[17:35] <dobey> that is your position, yes
[22:04] <mcphail> Well, rc-proposed has been much kinder on my battery than OTA8. Wonder why OTA8 regressed for me?
[22:37] <taiebot> Hi all i am missing the app text on my phone in the app scope which makes the app scope kind of weird. This is what i have http://i.imgur.com/PFhO5XI.png this is what i should have minus one less icon https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PImDhABojoM/VlwOTTHxEhI/AAAAAAAAIIo/snSTDzvsD2c/w530-h883-p/screenshot20151130_104953972.png
[22:39] <pmcgowan> taiebot, fix in progress https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/+bug/1519893
[22:42] <dobey> i'm confused
[22:42] <taiebot> pmcgowan has also a bug reported about unity8 kind of rotating or stretching on the phone? I have experienced this twice today. I have not been able to reproduce
[22:42] <dobey> oh
[22:42] <dobey> the section title
[22:43] <dobey> that's probably a unity8 bug
[22:43] <dobey> oh it is
[22:44] <dobey> whenever anyone mentions that bug, i always think the header text is missing for some reason
[22:44] <pmcgowan> yeah albert fixed it
[22:44] <taiebot> dobey there should be a glossary somewhere
[22:44] <pmcgowan> taiebot, sounds familiar, which device
[22:45] <taiebot> pmcgowan nexus 4
[22:45] <pmcgowan> if I recall its somehow related to the lifecylce management kicking in
[22:47] <taiebot> pmcgowan I suppose there is a bug report for it. Thanks.
[22:47] <pmcgowan> I think there was
[22:51] <taiebot> pmcgowan there was? it s the first time i saw this behaviour and i have been testing "using" this phone extensively what i saw this morning is this http://i.imgur.com/PFhO5XI.png doing almost a 60degree rotation and after stretching halfway across the screen and come back to original position
[22:52] <pmcgowan> taiebot, is that the right image?
[22:52] <taiebot> pmcgowan did not have time to take a screenshot
[22:52] <pmcgowan> ah
[22:53] <pmcgowan> I have seen when reselecting an app from the spread that it initially paints wrong, maybe what you saw is different
[23:20] <Timmey> Is it possible to change the mouse pointer speed?
[23:37] <Nether> hello
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-mir
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[11:43] <vitimiti> I'm trying to build and run the Unity 8 shell following this tutorial over here: https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/ but I get an initctl error saying the unity8 process is unknown: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13573548/ Somebody knows how to fix this problem?
[11:46] <alan_g> vitimiti: try asking on #ubuntu-unity
[11:46] <vitimiti> I will
[15:02] <alan_g> anpok: does this make any sense to you? lp:1521225
[15:04] <anpok> by vivid and wily you mean lp:mir on top of vivid and wily? or specific version of mir?
[15:10] <Stskeeps> g 20
[15:11] <alan_g> anpok: lp:mir
[15:12] <alan_g> It must be a recent change, I would have noticed last week.
[15:31] <anpok> alan_g: will look into that.. just finishing another problem i found when testing on nexus10 but not limited to it
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-ko
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[02:41] <ipeter_> 안녕하세요?
[02:43] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[03:55] <HolyKnight> 트윗펌. 내년부터 모든 국가전문자격시험 토요일 본다… 기독교계 입장 반영 한국산업인력공단 측은 “주일인 일요일에 주요 국가자격 시험이 시행되는 것에 대해 교계와 기독교인 수험생 등의 문제제기가 있어 왔다” http://m.kmib.co.kr/view.asp?arcid=0923338047&code=11131100&cp=du#cb
[04:04] <PotatoGim> 음... 뭔가 좀...
[04:09] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[09:25] <PotatoGim> 에고... 하루종일 irccloud가 말썽이었네요...
[09:25] <PotatoGim> 프리노드 서버가 이상한건가...?
[10:57] <autowiz__> 아아 오늘 피봤습니다..
[10:58] <autowiz__> 400ml 나 뽑았네요 ㅎㅎ
[11:01] <PotatoGim> 헌혈하셨나요?ㅎㅎ
[11:06] <autowiz__> 네 ㅎㅎ
[11:06] <PotatoGim> 맛난 초코파이도 받으셨겠군요...ㅜ
[11:06] <autowiz__> 전산기록이 남기는 남아있었나봐요 10년전에 한번 하셨었네요 하는데 좀 뻘쭘 했습니다 ㅋㅋ
[11:07] <autowiz__> 제 피 받으신분이 건강하시길 바랄뿐입니다 허허
[11:19] <PotatoGim> 오즈님 피니 분명히 건강하실겁니다 ㅎㅎ
[13:10] <psihaha> 와.. 접속하신 분들이 생각보다 많네요. 이제는 질문을 게시판이 아니라 여기에 올려야하는건가요?
[13:22] <HolyKnight> 오호
[13:31] <pchero_work> https://brunch.co.kr/@iliyard/5
[15:07] <autowiz__> 꺄~~ 12월이 돼었습니다.
[15:07] <autowiz__> 한달후면 또 한살을 먹는군요 ㅠㅠ
[15:08] <autowiz__> 지나온 1년을 마무리 하면서 내년은 어떻게 살까 .. 하며 반성 + 자아성찰 + 계획 등등이 절 실한 시기가 아닌가 싶습니다.
[16:05] <samahui_TP> 안녕하세요
[16:05] <samahui_TP> 어제 내내 접속이 안되더니 이제사 되는군요
[16:18] <samahui_tp> 허용되는 포트가 또 바뀌었군요ㅜㅜ 유뿔이 보안핑게로 귀찮게 만드네요.
[16:19] <samahui_tp> 일도 안되고 그만 자러 가야겠네요. 즐거운 새벽시간들 보내세요~ 내일뵈요
[17:14] <autowiz__> 꿀잠 주무시길~~
[18:12] <autowiz__> 안녕하세요
[18:13] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:13] <Seony> 셔틀버스 기다리는데 차가 매일 시간이 다르네요 ㅎㅎ
[18:13] <Seony> 출근합니다
[18:13] <autowiz__> 길이 그렇게 막히지도 않을거 같긴한데
[18:39] <Work^Seony> 하와이가 교통체증이 좀 심한 편이에요
[18:40] <Work^Seony> 어차피 가까운 거리라 크게 막히거나 그런건 아닌데, 기사 아저씨가 좀 들쑥날쑥하네요
[18:40] <autowiz__> 굳이 정시에 다녀야 할 필요성을 못느낀다거나
[22:47] <Work^Seony> 이번에 진짜 사나이에서 상륙돌격장갑차 탔네요 ㅋㅋ
[22:47] <Work^Seony> 이거 나 때만 해도 한 대에 21억이라고 했는데, 지금은 28억...
[22:47] <Work^Seony> 가격 많이 올랐네요 ㅎㅎ
[23:52] <JasonJang> 아마 가격만큼 기능도 좋아졌을?
[23:52] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 그렇겠죠
[23:56] <autowiz__> 화폐가치가 좀 달라진건아닐까 싶은 ㅎㅎ
[23:57] <JasonJang> ^^
[23:57] <Work^Seony> 글쵸 ㅎㅎ
[23:57] <autowiz__> 서니님 이번주말에 시간 되세요?
[23:58] <Work^Seony> 저야 남는게 시간이죠.. ㅎㅎ
[23:58] <autowiz__> 전용기 타고 서울 오시죠 ㅎㅎ 정모합시다
[23:59] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[23:59] <Work^Seony> 내년 5월에 갈께요
[23:59] <autowiz__> 네~ ㅎㅎ 웃자고 한말이었구요 .
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-release
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[10:41] <rbasak> Can an AA please review monitoring-plugins languishing in Xenial NEW? It's a merge of a Debian source package rename.
[10:43] <xnox> lxd 0.23-0ubuntu2 fails to start on i386 in the adt test. Can that be investigated at all? e.g. get the systemd journal out of there?
[10:43] <xnox> (similar transient failure was in the previous upload too)
[10:57] <infinity> xnox: Did you mean xenial? ^
[10:58] <xnox> yes
[11:01] <Laney> xnox: the instances are transient - you could make the test save artifacts in $ADT_ARTIFACTS
[11:02] <xnox> Laney, it fails on adt deps installation..... before the test even run
[12:07] <Trevinho> SRU team, can we please get a quick review of https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/685 ? It's waiting for long time, and it's blocking other changes...
[19:58] <yofel> what's a good way to find out why a souce is not part of a packageset even though it's listed in the supported seed?
[19:58] <yofel> *source
[20:02] <yofel> (polkit-kde-agent-1 and kwayland-integration from kubuntu xenial in this case)
[20:12] <yofel> hm, kwayland-integration is edubuntu and motu, polkit-kde-agent-1 is motu-only o.O
[21:46] <stgraber> so I have a few friends poking me because of a busted kernel that just hit the security pocket:
[21:46] <stgraber> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-utopic/+bug/1514785
[21:46] <stgraber> basically anyone who uses policy based routing or vaguely advanced routing in their firewall script now seem to be stuck in an infinite loop when calling iproute
[21:46] <stgraber> seems rather bad
[21:47] <stgraber> apw, ogasawara: ^
[21:48] <ogasawara> bjf: ^^
[21:51] <stgraber> an earlier report was dupped which I suspect confused the bots and made it disappear from reports...
[21:51] <stgraber> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1516052
[21:52] <wxl> bots aren't here
[21:53] <bjf> ogasawara, stgraber looking
[22:03] <bjf> stgraber, if someone can test kernels we'll get it bisected and a fix out asap
[22:03] <stgraber> bjf: sdeziel can help there, I can have him join #ubuntu-kernel if that helps
[22:04] <bjf> stgraber, thanks
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.607609
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntu-release"
}
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-motu
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[08:35] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.608767
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"dholbach"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
}
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2015-11-30-#lubuntu
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[14:01] <fkd> removed systemd for eudev but mouse and keyboard (maybe poweroff button too) dont work in X is dbus the cause?
[21:19] <Brutus> hi, i've installed lubuntu in a vm. it's still pretty much at default settings. how do you turn on ssh?
[21:20] <wxl> if you mean ssh daemon, you need to install it
[21:20] <Brutus> oh right
[21:21] <Brutus> ok it's installed
[21:21] <Brutus> need to figure out this systemd stuff
[21:21] <wxl> by default it will start at boot
[21:22] <Brutus> ok trying that
[21:23] <Brutus> hmm that doesn't work. also can't ping it
[21:23] <wxl> if you can't ping it, might be a network issue and/or you're using the wrong ip
[21:23] <Brutus> well i can ping my laptop
[21:23] <wxl> usually there are virtual ips
[21:24] <wxl> the fact that it's a vm requires special attention
[21:24] <Brutus> i can update the vm, i can ping from the vm to other devices in my house
[21:24] <Brutus> i can ssh from the vm to my laptop
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.610778
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Brutus",
"fkd",
"wxl"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/30/%23lubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#lubuntu"
}
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-pl
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[06:55] <zasek> ledwie zyje po tych ostatkach
[18:52] <lisu> czolem
[18:55] <cylon> Czesc
[18:57] <zasek> :)
[18:57] <lisu> widze, ze stara gwardia ciagle na kanale.
[18:58] <gjm> tzn. kto?
[18:59] <zasek> ChanServ ?
[18:59] <lisu> :) Ty. mati pakos, jacekowski itd.. inzaghi qermit
[18:59] <lisu> :D no i chanserv x)
[18:59] <gjm> część się praktycznie nie odzywa
[19:00] <gjm> oprócz chanserva :u
[19:02] <lisu> normalne, poodpalali screeny i tak juz zostalo.
[19:02] <zasek> moze automat jakis tyle ludzi loguje,, byle tylko byc .?
[19:02] <gjm> co
[19:04] <lisu> gjm: chyba zasek cos dzis wypil za duzo ;)
[19:04] <gjm> albo za mało
[19:04] <zasek> lisu: dlaczego tak uwazasz?
[19:05] <lisu> bo bredzisz.
[19:05] <zasek> lisu: ostatki bylo w sobote, nie dzis
[19:05] <lisu> powaznie? to zaspalem hehe.
[19:05] <lisu> chwila, ale to dzisiaj andrzeja
[19:06] <zasek> moze i jest, ale kazdy balował w sobote
[19:06] <zasek> jak chcesz to baluj dzis, i powodzenia jutro w pracy
[19:06] <zasek> :)
[19:07] <lisu> jakbym balował dzis, to nie siedział bym na kanale.
[19:08] <zasek> no widzisz
[19:12] <lisu> nic sie nie zmieniło... zawsze ta sama cięta gatka o bezedeurach... nie ma to jak stare dobre czasy :)
[19:18] <zasek> ma ktos z was konto na btgigs.info ?
[19:22] <lisu> narazie
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.615827
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"cylon",
"gjm",
"lisu",
"zasek"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/30/%23ubuntu-pl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
}
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-kernel
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[12:37] <marga> infinity, hey there. The installer is still not matching the latest kernel, I thought it was going to be updated soon... Is there an ETA on that?
[13:14] <caribou> apw: smb: I have just realised that /etc/default/grub.d/kexec-tools.cfg is the script responsible for setting up crashkernel= as a boot argument
[13:14] <caribou> apw: smb: any reason for that ? this is a requirement for kdump-tools, not kexec itself
[13:26] <caribou> thank god we are doing good QA on our flagship software
[13:39] <apw> caribou, sounds like it is missplaced at best
[13:40] <caribou> apw: kdump-tools is not the only reverse depends of kexec-tools so that variable may be defined for things that have nothing to do with crashkernel
[13:41] <caribou> (petitboot & pxe-kexec)
[13:41] <apw> caribou, i suppose... all it does is "make a hole in ram" so it could be used by other things for the same side-effect
[13:42] <caribou> apw: yes, it has minimal impact
[13:42] <caribou> apw: maybe it is worth moving it to kdump-tools package
[13:42] <caribou> apw: plus this is Ubuntu specific
[13:46] <smb> Yeah, guess a misnomer from times when all was mushed together
[13:47] <apw> caribou, presumably debian has to have handling for that cmdline thing as well tho ?
[13:47] <apw> where do they do it?
[13:47] <caribou> apw: nope, it is a manual addition to /etc/default/grub documented in the README
[13:48] <apw> caribou, oh right, so we can move it to whever it makes most sense and then upstream it to debian :)
[13:48] <caribou> apw: there is on linux-crashdump metapackage on debian
[13:48] <caribou> iep
[13:48] <caribou> yep
[13:49] <apw> anyhow very likely we put it in kexec tools because it _is_ related to kexec tools ...
[13:49] <apw> so it might make sense there really, because you have kexec --crash or whatever to use it don't you
[13:49] <caribou> apw: true
[13:50] <caribou> apw: I was looking at LP: #1318111
[13:54] <smb> apw, thats what I meant with mushed together...
[13:55] <apw> oh that is very broken, sigh
[14:33] <xnox> caribou, i think there is a fix for that in mdadm package where Laney fixed a "similar" bug.
[14:34] <caribou> xnox: mdadm ??? oh, maybe a more generic fix
[14:34] <caribou> xnox: that would explain why I can no longer reproduce it
[14:34] <caribou> I'll fetch the source
[14:34] <xnox> caribou, well, it's a bit tricky. grub.d hooks can readd things over and over and over again. there was a bug in the way mdadm was doing it.
[14:35] <xnox> there was a feedback loop and it depended on how many kernels one was generating the initramfs for....
[14:35] <xnox> so try to have multiple kernels installed and have update-grub run across them all or some such.
[14:36] <caribou> xnox: yeah, that's what I'm testing atm
[14:37] <caribou> xnox: lp: #1465567
[14:53] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13576380/
[14:54] <smoser> does that stack trace look important ?
[14:54] <smoser> root fs got remounted read only and i'm just going to reboot.
[14:54] <smoser> the reason i ask if it looks important is that its quite possible that the underlying disk in this vmware system is foobarred.
[14:55] <smoser> (the provider has done that before, so if it smells like that I wont open a bug).
[14:56] <xnox> [700872.486476] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] task abort on host 2, ffff88001e469000
[14:56] <xnox> [700882.773096] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Failed to get completion for aborted cmd ffff88001e469000
[14:56] <xnox> hardware problem =)
[15:03] <smoser> xnox, thanks.
[19:21] <jderose> Any insight into why 4.2.0-19 wasn't released last week, if it will be released this week?
[20:07] <apw> we do try and avoid releasing on friday so we acoid breaking people at the weekend
[20:22] <jderose> apw: was the reason 4.2.0-19 wasn't released due to regressions found, or because of the holidays? just eager for 4.2.0-19 as it fixes as critical NVMe + suspend issue :)
[21:21] <jderose> apw: BTW, this is the specific fix we're waiting for - http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-wily.git/commit/?h=master-next&id=babbf7db6d39d809ae132394f1196463ef118ca0
[21:22] <jderose> without it, suspend/resume is broken on UEFI systems with NVMe drives (and UEFI is, AFAIK, required to work with NVMe drives at all)
[22:04] <stgraber> sdeziel: bjf is looking for someone who can test fixes
[22:04] <sdeziel> bjf: I'm ready to test when you are
[22:05] <bjf> sdeziel, thanks, jsalisbury ^
[22:05] <bjf> sdeziel, are we talking Trusty?
[22:06] <sdeziel> bjf: yes, I can test both 3.13 and 3.16 on trusty
[22:06] <bjf> sdeziel, thanks
[22:25] <bjf> sdeziel, we've duplicated it here. i don't think we'll need you
[22:25] <sdeziel> bjf: OK, I'm still available if you think I can help
[22:25] <sdeziel> thanks for looking into this
[22:26] <bjf> sdeziel, we'll probably want you to test as soon as we've identified the bad commit but that might take a bit
[22:26] <sdeziel> bjf: OK, no problem
[22:27] <sdeziel> bjf: I didn't bisect it myself but looking at the changelog, "fib_rules: fix fib rule dumps across multiple skbs" seems like a potential culprit
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.631471
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel"
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-tr
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[15:38] <mehmetcengiz> selam beyler istanbuldan olan varmi?
[15:45] <mehmetcengiz> fakemi bu adres yav??
[15:45] <mehmetcengiz> kimse cevap yazmıyor
[15:59] <mehmetcengiz> selam millet
[16:40] <turgay> ???
[16:40] <turgay> mehmetcengiz:
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.634795
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"mehmetcengiz",
"turgay"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/30/%23ubuntu-tr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tr"
}
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2015-11-30-#lubuntu-devel
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[01:30] <wxl> thx for yr help tsimonq2
[01:45] <tsimonq2> wxl: I r8 ur txting skllz 8/8 m8
[01:45] <tsimonq2> :D
[13:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: looks like we still have 2 PPC test case sets for 20151129. Either it's so early in the day that they are going to reset soon, or they should be reset along with the other ones, as I see Xubuntu has reset already.
[13:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: so please just take a look
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.635849
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"tsimonq2",
"wxl"
],
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"channel": "#lubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu+1
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[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[19:38] <sandGorgon> hey guys... is there a snappy based ISO that I can try out and play with ? I'm looking at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso but dont know if it is intended with dpkg or snappy
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: xenial desktop isnt snappy
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: ask the image in #snappy perhaps?
[19:39] <sandGorgon> lotuspsychje, oh.. I was reading all these blogs that said that 16.04 will be released as a snappy based and a deb based simultaneouly
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: 16.04 isnt out yet right, this is the development branch
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: maybe it will heva snappy in april 2016
[19:41] <sandGorgon> lotuspsychje, I'm aware of that. which is why I pointed to the daily-live build. I was hoping there would be daily builds for the snappy version (if indeed the rumours are true)
[19:41] <sandGorgon> lotuspsychje, but if nobody here knows about it, then im skeptical. but it seems kinda strange with all those articles
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: you can test snappy allright, ask where the iso is located in #snappy
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.638790
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"BluesKaj",
"lotuspsychje",
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"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-irc
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[02:38] <phillw> hi, anyone awake at this hour?
[02:40] <k1l> some are. but depends on what the issue is if that people can help :)
[02:42] <phillw> with issues going on, why is '/msg ChanServ KICK #channel nick' returning back "(02:22:44) ChanServ: (notice) Invalid command. Use /msg ChanServ help for a command listing."
[02:45] <k1l> are you set +r on that channel?
[02:45] <phillw> k1l: I'm the founder :)
[02:46] <ninnnu> Well, if you see /msg chanserv help, you'll notice that kick isn't a valid command..
[02:46] <k1l> yeah, i am not sure about freenode having that command on their chanserv
[02:47] <phillw> ahh, good call. that is atheme version of irc
[02:48] <k1l> but there is some chanserv please kick the user 'ish command
[02:48] <phillw> I love standards... akick is fine on freenode :D
[02:48] <phillw> which bans, but does not kick..
[02:49] <ninnnu> You could always just op yourself and kick them. I don't think Chanserv does anonymous removal anyway if that's what you're looking for.
[02:49] <phillw> yeah, iirc it is a mode +b with various *, !, - 's etc set.
[02:50] <k1l> there is a remove command (which is not anonymous)
[02:50] <phillw> ninnnu: I tried that... I am OP'd but my attempts to kick result in 'command not found'.
[02:51] <ninnnu> phillw: /kick nick, skip chanserv
[02:51] <ninnnu> It's a command in your client, not chanserv-thing
[02:51] <phillw> (02:20:56) ChanServ: (notice) AKICK list for #phillw:
[02:51] <phillw> (02:20:56) ChanServ: (notice) 1: add (tsimonq2) [setter: phillw, modified: 6m 9s]
[02:51] <phillw> so, that is set.
[02:52] <phillw> ooh, thanks ninnnu :)
[02:53] <phillw> you can guess I'm used to having an admin bot for these tasks but with the ongoing DDoS attacks the bot has to be re-started each time.
[02:55] <k1l> /remove #channel $nick :reason
[02:58] <phillw> k1l: 'no such channel' /remove #phillw tsimonq2
[02:58] <phillw> the channel is there :)
[02:58] <k1l> /cs remove #chan nick
[02:59] <phillw> k1l: just a kick will suffice..
[03:00] <phillw> akick already has user banned, but that cannot take effect whilst user is still on the channel
[03:00] <k1l> a remove is a kick
[03:00] <phillw> any one on here a freenode staffer?
[03:01] <k1l> just made by chanserv and not by the op. but the kickmessage is extended to who said chanserv to remoce
[03:01] <k1l> but most clients dont autorejoin on a remove.
[03:02] <phillw> k1l: so '/remove #phillw tsimonq2' should kick user tsimonq2 from channel #phillw ?
[03:04] <k1l> /remove are the ircd commands. /cs remove is the one thats issued from chanserv. i am not sure which is still working (due to changes to the ircd) but i know one works since its in the chanserv.py i use with hexchat :)
[03:06] <phillw> k1l: thanks for your help... those commands are not working and I cannot get my head around the mode +b flags :)
[03:07] <k1l> /quote remove #channel nick that works, just tested
[03:09] <phillw> remove #phillw tsimonq2
[03:09] <phillw> no such channel
[03:10] <phillw> (03:08:59) phillw: remove #phillw tsimonq2
[03:10] <phillw> (03:09:09) no such chan
[03:11] <k1l> phillw: /quote remove #channel nick
[03:11] <k1l> just tested from the webchat to make sure my scripts are not cheating there
[03:13] <phillw> k1l: ahh, thanks... I was not using quote as I thought it was 'quote' as opposed to use!
[03:14] <k1l> ah no, / is the starting of IRC commands
[03:19] <phillw> you now see why I like an admin bot :)
[03:19] <phillw> k1l: "(03:18:20) tsimonq2: phillw: your failed attempts to correctly remove me amuse me"
[03:20] <k1l> well, use a proper irc client, then there are already made scripts :) like for hexchat there is chanserv.py which is /cs kb user reason and a user is gone and a ban is set.
[03:21] <phillw> k1l: which part of issuing commands and kicking people has ANYTHING to do with my irc client?... Just a question.....
[03:22] <k1l> you said its to complicated. so i think that proper scripted clients are much easier for that tasks.
[03:24] <phillw> that's why we have an admin bot... the "/quote remove tsimonq2" did not work
[03:24] <phillw> the +b bit did
[03:24] <k1l> "/quote remove #channel tsimonq2"
[03:25] <phillw> that worked !
[03:25] <phillw> cheers...
[03:33] <phillw> k1l: again, thank you. that channel is not a pure ubuntu channel, but many on there are.
[03:36] <k1l> yeah, no problem. as you can see i dont know the chanserv/ircd commands all by heart. i just use the very simple script commands for my hexchat plugin.
[03:39] <phillw> k1l: I did learn the basics, many moons ago (like when UBT was running) my master parted to become a freenode staffer and I was handed onto a new master. As such, I have a lot of patience for padawans.. but this one has gone over the tip of rules too many times now. As the last ones happened when his trainer was on vacation. Him off there and chat to his master is in order. His chances of getting ubuntu-membership are now zero.
[03:40] <phillw> The topic for #ubuntu-irc is: International Ubuntu IRC operators channel | The IRC Team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam | This is NOT a support channel, support in #ubuntu etc. | The channel is multilingual, but English is preferred | Regardless of language, please write clearly | This channel is logged http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[03:41] * phillw sorry
[03:41] <phillw> a failed copy and paste of the best part of phrasing
[18:45] <edhek> exit
[18:46] <Pici> exit, stage left
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.648143
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
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2015-11-30-#maas
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[06:47] <mancubus> hi pp;
[06:47] <mancubus> hi ppl
[14:20] <roaksoax> 77/win 13
[14:25] <mup> Bug #1521204 opened: MAAS does not log responses sent to nodes being provisioned <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521204>
[19:08] <mup> Bug #1521290 opened: IPMI timeout option <sts> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521290>
[22:39] <mup> Bug #1521376 opened: MAAS nodes should re-report the IP address they observe assigned to themselves at deployment time <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.8:Won't Fix> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521376>
[22:42] <mup> Bug #1521376 changed: MAAS nodes should re-report the IP address they observe assigned to themselves at deployment time <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.8:Won't Fix> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521376>
[22:45] <mup> Bug #1521376 opened: MAAS nodes should re-report the IP address they observe assigned to themselves at deployment time <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.8:Won't Fix> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521376>
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:22.651196
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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"mancubus",
"mup",
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"channel": "#maas"
}
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-fi
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[13:58] <motalb> olipas hidasta yhdistää freenodeen, vasta neljäs serveri päästi sisään
[13:59] <motalb> muutenkin kovin pätkinyt freenoden yhteydet
[14:12] <Mirv> DDoS:ia edelleen
[14:24] <Mikaela> kauankohan ne jaksavat
[14:52] <Guest47595> Mitenköhän kauan tunnus on "temporarily unavailable" jos kirjautuminen on vanhentunut?
[14:52] <Guest47595> Elias se täällä kyselee valepuvussa.
[15:14] <elias_a> No niin. RTFM auttoi taas kerran. :P
[15:26] <Mikaela> taikatemppu on /msg nickserv regain nick [<salasana jos et ole sisäänkirjautunut>]
[17:10] <Iltsu> /whois Iltsu
[17:10] <Iltsu> hups
[17:38] <elias_a> Kuka mä olen?
[17:41] <jjo> mietin heti että onko toi komentorivillä whoami, mutta kyllä se taitaa olla enempi finger `whoami`
[17:42] <jjo> sori, tietysti finger $USER
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"Iltsu",
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"jjo",
"motalb"
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-unity
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[09:07] <mzanetti> Guest74213, you want to wait an hour or two, update your system and try again
[09:08] <mzanetti> Guest74213, alternatively, check out lp:unity-api, build that yourself and install it
[09:22] <Guest74213> mzanetti, thanks :D i think i'll wait o/
[09:39] <Saviq> Guest74213, as I wrote on the bug, new libunity-api-dev is available in xenial for almost a day now
[09:40] <Saviq> it might be your mirror is behind, might want to use archive.ubuntu.com directly in that case
[09:41] <Guest74213> Saviq, i have libunity-api-dev 7.103+16.04.20151125-0ubuntu1 installed
[09:41] <Guest74213> and i still can build
[09:42] <Saviq> Guest74213, owait, the correct unity-shell-application version is 11, when did you last pull?
[09:43] <Guest74213> Saviq, yesterday :D omg i'm so dumb, i'll pull again now
[09:43] <Guest74213> <--- dumb
[09:44] <Saviq> Guest74213, and you really want to fix your IRC client to keep your nick :P
[09:44] <pixel_> done :D
[09:46] <Saviq> anyone else seeing a "diamond" character instead of "ff" in, say "affects" in Launchpad?
[09:46] <Saviq> /methinks saw it in Thunderbird, too
[09:46] <Saviq> that's Firefox, btw
[09:48] <Saviq> greyback, bug #1521106, might be unity8/qtmir, too, as we're not suspending music app and keeping the wakelock, thus?
[09:49] <davmor2> Saviq: might not be music app but might be media-hub as it had a partial update for background music playback that got complete recently iirc
[09:50] <Saviq> davmor2, right, pause != interrupt playback
[09:50] <Saviq> wonder if not ever starting playback has the same effect
[09:53] <davmor2> Saviq: so I just opened the music app and it now holds a queue of what was previously played so that is effectively media-hub queued ready to play
[09:53] <pixel_> Saviq, it's building now :D -- checking for module 'unity-shell-application=11'
[09:53] <pixel_> -- found unity-shell-application, version 11
[09:53] <pixel_> :D
[09:54] <Saviq> davmor2, right, but ready to play != pipeline all set up
[09:54] <Saviq> pixel_, glad
[09:55] <davmor2> Saviq: this is true
[09:56] <davmor2> Saviq: I'd bring it up with ahayzen and jhodapp too before you dig into it too far in case it is their end
[10:00] <Saviq> davmor2, ack, tx
[10:04] <cimi> tsdgeos, hola!
[10:04] <greyback> Saviq: hey, yeah, there was a similar bug that I investigated a bit & commented upon, lemme find it
[10:05] <tsdgeos> cimi: hi ho
[10:05] <greyback> Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1518764
[10:05] * greyback marking duplicate
[10:05] <cimi> tsdgeos, I was wondering if there is a branch has priority to be tested/reviewed so I can jump on in
[10:05] <cimi> *it
[10:05] <Saviq> greyback, tx
[10:08] <tsdgeos> cimi: not really, the missing branches are either filters branches but still somehow blocked on the "can't open" bug
[10:17] <popey> I notice the ubuntu shape now has a shadow outside rather than inside in the app scope, but still has the old internal shadow in the list of scopes pulled up from the bottom... http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-30-100402.png
[10:17] <popey> is this known - and in progress - or a bug?
[10:17] <mzanetti> Saviq, why did you reopen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1510969
[10:17] <mzanetti> seems fixed to me
[10:18] <Saviq> mzanetti, tried when testing silo 5 and couldn't resize when 1-2px from the edge
[10:18] <mzanetti> Saviq, hmm... should work... kk, will test
[10:19] <mzanetti> popey, dunno. design instructed us to change it for the app icons, but no other shapes are affected
[10:19] <mzanetti> popey, you might want to file a bug to ubuntu-ux about it if you think it's wrong
[10:20] <popey> dunno if it's wrong but it's inconsistent
[10:20] <popey> all the scopes have the old one too
[10:20] <popey> so swipe side to side and the difference is obvious
[10:20] <mzanetti> yes. only the app icons have the new one
[10:20] * popey files a bug
[10:24] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1521130
[10:41] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: any reason https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/cleanup_assets/+merge/278340 not top approved?
[10:42] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, hmm, not that I know of
[10:43] <mzanetti> I wonder if I forgot or if someone change it back
[10:54] <mzanetti> Saviq, is there a way to ignore ofono's "start" action in the postinstall stuff?
[10:54] <mzanetti> if I want to have unity8 installed, it pulls ofono
[10:54] <mzanetti> and that messes up whole dpkg
[10:56] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: just touch the init.d file it wants
[10:56] <tsdgeos> touch /etc/init.d/ofono
[10:56] <tsdgeos> yes, the packaging can be probably improved to not die because of that :D
[10:57] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, hmm.. doesn't seem to help
[10:57] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[10:57] <tsdgeos> it did help here
[10:57] <tsdgeos> what error do you get?
[10:58] <mzanetti> Nov 30 11:57:11 Shadow systemd[1]: ofono.service: main process exited, code=killed, status=11/SEGV
[10:58] <tsdgeos> ah, that's not what i was getting
[10:58] <tsdgeos> i was getting apt complain about /etc/init.d/ofono not existing and not being able to start the thing
[10:59] <mzanetti> also it seems wrong that we have a hard dependency on ofono
[11:00] <tsdgeos> yeah
[11:02] <tsdgeos> larsu: there?
[11:02] <Saviq> mzanetti, well, we should not be pulling in ofono, that's for sure... but we do through indicator-network
[11:03] <mzanetti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1521142
[11:03] <mzanetti> I know
[11:03] <Saviq> as well as some other things, /me never had that problem with ofono though
[11:03] <Saviq> might be because I had it installed before systemd or something
[11:04] <mzanetti> I think the only issue is that since a recent upgrade it fails to start with a SEGV
[11:04] <mzanetti> and the startup script wants it to work
[11:04] <mzanetti> so it exits with error now
[11:04] <mzanetti> leaving about 15 packages unconfigured here
[11:06] <mzanetti> interesting that it says this on my laptop: ofonod[8671]: RILDEV detected modem type ril, 1 SIM slot(s)
[11:11] <mzanetti> Saviq, ok, about that bug from before with resizing. I have a suspicion that the new DDA on the right is eating the hower events
[11:12] <mzanetti> different bug... will clean up the reports
[11:13] <tsdgeos> larsu: if you have some time to have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/gsettings-qt/disconnect_signal_handler/+merge/278947 it'd be great
[11:29] <Saviq> mzanetti, well, same bug, different cause ;)
[11:30] <mzanetti> Saviq, not really... the bug says: "resizing something next to the edges invokes the spread"
[11:30] <mzanetti> anyhow
[11:31] <mzanetti> i.e. you can now resize something *to* the edge, which wasn't really possible before
[11:31] <mzanetti> or well, would invoke the spread and cancel the drag operation
[11:31] <Saviq> mzanetti, ack
[11:32] <Saviq> mzanetti, I misinterpreted the bug title then
[11:33] <larsu> tsdgeos: done, thanks
[11:35] <tsdgeos> larsu: yeah i found it weird too, but i guess valgrind would not be lying there
[11:35] <larsu> tsdgeos: probably gsettings holding a ref to itself in an idle or so to clean stuff up
[11:35] <larsu> no, valgrind seems right to me
[11:46] <vitimiti> Hi
[11:46] <vitimiti> I'm trying to build and run the Unity 8 shell following this tutorial over here: https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/ but I get an initctl error saying the unity8 process is unknown: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13573548/ Somebody knows how to fix this problem?
[11:47] <mzanetti> vitimiti, try "stop unity8" first
[11:48] <vitimiti> mzanetti, it says "Impossible connecting to Upstar: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Refused connection
[11:49] <mzanetti> hmpf
[11:49] <vitimiti> "
[11:49] <vitimiti> (I'm roughly translating from Spanish)
[11:49] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, this was working for you some weeks ago, right? ^
[11:50] <mzanetti> vitimiti, you can also do this "make -c builddir tryShell"
[11:50] <mzanetti> should give you the same result roughly as run.sh
[11:50] <vitimiti> Let me try that
[11:50] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: it may happen that you need to have unity8 installed for that to work
[11:50] <tsdgeos> not sure tbh
[11:51] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, in his case it says it would be running already
[11:51] <vitimiti> No rule to make target, it said :I
[11:51] <mzanetti> you did build it, did you?
[11:51] <vitimiti> I have unity8 installed in LXC
[11:51] <vitimiti> Yeah, it is built
[11:51] <mzanetti> cd builddir && make tryShell
[11:55] <vitimiti> I'm sorry, my laptop got disconnected from the A/C
[11:56] <vitimiti> I built the unity8 shell with the ./build.sh script
[11:56] <vitimiti> mzanetti, ^
[11:57] <mzanetti> cd builddir && make tryShell
[11:57] <Saviq> vitimiti, it looks as if your upstart user session is not running, what's your environment?
[11:57] <vitimiti> Saviq, I'm using Unity 7 in Ubuntu Xenial
[11:57] <Saviq> vitimiti, any chance your terminal has stale env vars? tried restarting it?
[11:58] <vitimiti> mzanetti, that target has no rules, it says
[11:58] <vitimiti> Saviq, no, I have never touched my terminal's variables, but just in case, how do I restart it?
[11:58] <mzanetti> something's wrong with your build
[11:59] <vitimiti> Should I try build --clean?
[12:00] <Saviq> vitimiti, just close the terminal and start again
[12:00] <vitimiti> Oh, then that's not the problem
[12:02] <vitimiti> I have installed unity8 natively and now it's asking for a reboot, just in case that's why initctl is failing
[12:02] <vitimiti> I will reboot
[12:02] <Saviq> vitimiti, how's `initctl --session list` look?
[12:02] <vitimiti> Saviq, that one does show unity8 stop/waiting
[12:03] <Saviq> vitimiti, try rebooting indeed, might be your upstart went awry
[12:03] <vitimiti> I will wait for the rebuild and then reboot and see what happens
[12:42] <vitimiti> Now it does work
[12:42] <vitimiti> Thank you guys
[13:24] <mzanetti> greyback, hey, are you running xenial?
[13:26] <greyback> mzanetti: not on the machine I have with me atm unfortunately
[13:26] <mzanetti> greyback, just upgraded my notebook, obviously wifi is gone
[13:26] <greyback> mzanetti: d'oh :(
[13:26] <mzanetti> and the bcmwl-kernel-source package seems not to exist any more at all now
[13:27] <mzanetti> b43 only gets me b/g
[13:43] <mzanetti> greyback, did you port that driver to 3.15 back then?
[13:46] <mzanetti> phew... works with 3.19 still
[13:47] <mzanetti> and I still had that kernel around
[13:47] <greyback> mzanetti: I guess our kernel guys will forward port the driver eventually
[13:48] <mzanetti> greyback, probably not, no
[13:48] <mzanetti> greyback, remember, bcm upstream dropped support for our chip
[13:49] <mzanetti> so all we will get is the broken version that can't do stable
[13:50] <mzanetti> anyhow... xenial + downgrade to kernel 3.19 + the patched bcmwl-kernel-source package seems to do...
[13:54] <greyback> mzanetti: did they? b*stards!
[14:01] <davmor2> greyback: is that only dawning on you now ;)
[14:02] <greyback> lol
[14:02] <davmor2> greyback: sorry /me gets hit by it too often testing iso images and seeing how broken they can be
[14:03] <greyback> davmor2: *nod* they caused me enough pain to forward port an older version of the driver, just to get something that mostly works
[14:22] <mzanetti> Trevinho, hey, just upgraded to vivid. great to see a normal sized mouse cursor :)
[14:22] <mzanetti> erm, xenial
[14:22] <mzanetti> Trevinho, the count emblem seems a bit off tho
[14:23] <Trevinho> mzanetti: yeah, cursors are now dynamic.. Finally. Also theme-side :-)
[14:23] <Trevinho> mzanetti: count emblem has not been changed, but it used to be in some cases in the past as well
[14:23] <Trevinho> it's a thing that should be fixed... It's just few px of offset I guess
[14:23] <mzanetti> http://i.imgur.com/zdKo4iE.png
[14:23] <Trevinho> ah, I was about to ask
[14:23] <Trevinho> oh... That
[14:23] <Trevinho> Mh, no never saw
[14:23] <Trevinho> ahhhhhhh
[14:23] <mzanetti> same in the launcher
[14:23] <Trevinho> that's with scaling
[14:24] <mzanetti> yes
[14:24] <Trevinho> so... Maybe I didn't take in consideration something
[14:24] <Trevinho> mzanetti: wasn't it before, right?
[14:24] <mzanetti> was fine on vivid, yes
[14:24] <mzanetti> I skipped wily
[14:24] <Trevinho> as that code hasn't changed since trusty I think
[14:24] <Trevinho> mh
[14:25] <mzanetti> Trevinho, the external screen is still unusable :( think that will be fixed at some point?
[14:25] <mzanetti> funny thing is, that the top panel actually has the correct size
[14:26] <mzanetti> but all the other stuff is huge
[14:35] <mzanetti> Saviq, hmpf... can you install unity8 on wily?
[14:35] <mzanetti> gna... xenial
[14:35] <davmor2> mzanetti: because it hates you
[14:36] <mzanetti> yes
[14:36] <mzanetti> wants libhybris
[14:36] <mzanetti> gah I hate that indicator-network
[14:36] <davmor2> mzanetti: also welcome to how the hell were people testing on xenial when they said they had ;)
[14:37] <mzanetti> I never said I tested on xenial
[14:37] <mzanetti> and well, flashing the phone to xenial might be easier
[14:38] <Saviq> mzanetti, I am on xenial and everything's fine, I did upgrade however, "new install" path might be different
[14:38] <mzanetti> I wonder if I can downgrade to vivid again...
[14:38] <mzanetti> I did upgrade too
[14:38] <mzanetti> Saviq, for me it wants to install libhybris
[14:38] <mzanetti> and that well, doesn't want to be installed on amd64
[14:38] <Saviq> not a problem I don't think
[14:39] * Saviq has libhybris installed
[14:39] <mzanetti> libhybris : Depends: libandroid-properties1 (= 0.1.0+git20131207+e452e83-0ubuntu40~gcc5.1) but 0.1.0+git20151016+6d424c9-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[14:39] <Saviq> just means you have the *wrong* libhybris to install
[14:39] <mzanetti> ph...
[14:39] <mzanetti> oh
[14:39] <Saviq> just install libandroid-properties1=0.1.0...
[14:40] <Saviq> likely some PPA you have enabled
[14:40] <Saviq> or, had
[14:42] <Saviq> mzanetti, not sure where you have the older libandroid-properties1 from, but I'd say you also have some package pinning going on, check /etc/apt/preferences.d
[14:43] <mzanetti> yeah... making some progress now
[14:43] <Saviq> mzanetti, you probably didn't purge stable-phone-overlay before upgrading to xenial?
[14:43] <mzanetti> nope, I didn't
[14:44] <mzanetti> thought as we dual land all of it should be the same
[14:44] <mzanetti> but with higher version
[14:44] <mzanetti> anyhow... looking better now
[14:45] <mzanetti> wow, saw this for the first time: 502 Server Hangup
[14:45] <Saviq> mzanetti, "we" is the deciding factor here
[14:46] <mzanetti> Saviq, I thought it the second I typed it :D
[14:52] <Trevinho> mzanetti: I'm sorry, I missed your request :)
[14:52] <Trevinho> mzanetti: external screen... Well the shell should work fine per monitor
[14:52] <Trevinho> mzanetti: the problems are the apps, which don't support to be scaled per screen
[16:12] <mterry> @unity is anyone else running xenial seeing an "SSL connection error" message in chromium on google.com domains after updating your system? -- also, if this is a real problem: beware of updating your system :)
[16:13] <mzanetti> mterry, just updated today
[16:13] <mzanetti> have not seen this issue on our hangout before
[16:13] <mterry> mzanetti, so you can go to google.com just fine?
[16:14] <mzanetti> yes
[16:14] <mzanetti> seems you've got a man in the middle there ;)
[16:15] <mterry> mzanetti, :-/ well on the plus side it's only me. On the down side, it's only me and I have to figure it out
[16:38] <tsdgeos> cimi: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/focusPassesFromChildToParent/+merge/277962 seems to fix the bug
[16:39] <cimi> tsdgeos, great!
[16:39] <tsdgeos> you should be able to use http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-sdk-team-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-staging-vivid-armhf-ci/1276/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip to test while we wait for it to land on the overlay
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"Saviq",
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"tsdgeos",
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2015-11-30-#ubuntustudio
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[05:39] <ubuntu-studio> zequence, It seems some of the install things have been corrected.
[05:40] <Len1604> I am no longer asked to resize the partition if I haven't changed the size and I can reformat during install now.
[05:41] <Len1604> I have to install so I can logout and in to try different default config options.
[05:41] <Len1604> Create new users etc.
[05:42] <Len1604> This is the best way to try out different things.
[05:50] <Len1604> install seems much quicker too
[05:50] * Len1604 reboots
[19:31] <Vuokko> Hello!
[19:32] <Vuokko> Does live DVD environment have dvgrab?
[19:41] <sirriffsalot> I prefer using PCman instead of thunar, is there a way of removing thunar separately without having to remove crucial things such as ubuntu-desktop?
[20:01] <OvenWerks> Vuokko: It looks like it. kdelive depends on it.
[20:02] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: thunar is used for the desktop background.
[20:02] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks, ok?
[20:03] <OvenWerks> That means it is pretty much embedded into xfce I think.
[20:03] <sirriffsalot> Ah
[20:03] <OvenWerks> you can set the default file manager to be something else though.
[20:03] <sirriffsalot> Right.. that would explain it
[20:04] <sirriffsalot> I know, I'm just somewhat annoyed at having double programs lying all over the place, hehe. Guess I
[20:04] <sirriffsalot> guess I
[20:04] <OvenWerks> We used to do that with nautilus.
[20:04] <sirriffsalot> I'll have to *
[20:04] <sirriffsalot> Never liked nautilus, but yeah I'll do that for PC I guess :) Cheers
[20:04] <OvenWerks> what does PCman have?
[20:05] <sirriffsalot> Nothing special really, I just like the way they organize their stuff and look
[20:13] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks, how do you feel on Dolphin, I quite like that file manager too
[20:25] <sirriffsalot> Began tweaking my mini-studio laptop... I'm flipping through all of these terminal-fonts and can't imagine people using even half of them :D
[20:29] <sirriffsalot> And these fonts that change our alphabet entirely, why do people design these elaborate stars-alphabets anyhow?
[20:29] <sirriffsalot> "geeks be makin' codes no one wants to intercept anyhow" type of thing?
[20:33] <OvenWerks> I thought Dolphin was an older fork of nautilus.
[20:34] <OvenWerks> Nope, can't be.
[20:35] <OvenWerks> That must be what my wife uses then. I like the preview part, but not how it reacts to clicks on files :)
[21:12] <sirriffsalot> That annoys me too, hence I don't use it hehe
[21:12] <sirriffsalot> Probably alterable though
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.667813
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"Len1604",
"OvenWerks",
"Vuokko",
"sirriffsalot",
"ubuntu-studio"
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-tw
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[06:21] <NateLo> hi
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.669001
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"channel": "#ubuntu-tw"
}
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[12:31] <lazypower> o/
[15:17] <ChinnoDog> Morning
[15:19] <ChinnoDog> Happy Cyber Monday. Subscriptions to the new Safari books service are 50% off today. My experience suggests this may be the lowest price available all year.
[15:26] <ChinnoDog> I signed up a few minutes ago. Books can now be downloaded on Android and iOS. :D Desktop apps to follow.
[15:35] <waltman> You can download books with Safari? I thought that was only for reading online.
[15:57] <ChinnoDog> Not anymore. I'm assuming they are encrypted downloads like Spotify but I haven't done it yet.
[15:59] <ChinnoDog> I read most of my books on my computer. I'll have to wait until I can run the Windows app in WINE.
[17:58] <pleia2> yeah, I read books on my tablet on planes, no internets
[17:58] <pleia2> and my next book is on rough cuts on safari right now (it may even be published for real some day if I ever finish it!)
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ubuntu-chat
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"ChinnoDog",
"lazypower",
"pleia2",
"waltman"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-news
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[02:18] <pleia2> jose: happen to be around to write some summaries?
[02:18] * tsimonq2 completely forgot as he was doing QA tests
[02:19] <pleia2> still have a lot to do
[02:19] <tsimonq2> yup, on it
[02:19] <pleia2> thanks :)
[02:21] <tsimonq2> (QA tests are running, almost done with all of the Lubuntu and Xubuntu ones)
[02:24] <tsimonq2> pleia2: ping, did you write this? http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-at-freegeek-chicago/
[02:28] <pleia2> tsimonq2: the article? yeah, I can write the summary if that's easier
[02:28] <pleia2> ah, looks like it's done :)
[02:28] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I did it, but since you WROTE the article, PLEASE edit it
[02:28] <pleia2> I added "is interviewed by the Xubuntu team" since there is no identifying marker that it's me ;)
[02:29] <pleia2> thank you
[02:29] <tsimonq2> pleia2: and what is up with the Didier Roche: Netbeans and Rust & JetBrains CLion and Twine game editor support in Ubuntu Make 15.11 article?
[02:29] <pleia2> he announced two things about the same project, I just put them together
[02:30] <tsimonq2> oh, unusual
[02:34] <tsimonq2> pleia2: moving on to the next article, could you review the Ubuntu Make 15.11 one, just in case real quick?
[02:34] <tsimonq2> thanks!
[02:38] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I will do this last one, then I gotta jet
[02:43] <tsimonq2> pleia2: ok, I did what I could with my free time. oh, one last thing, our LoCo(Wisconsin) is having a virtual meeting(Hangout) with a livestream. I don't know if you want to include that or not, but I wanted to let you know. The details are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/WisconsinTeam/20151201
[02:44] <tsimonq2> pleia2: see you next weekend!
[02:44] <tsimonq2> pleia2: (if not beforehand around the community ;) )
[02:44] <tsimonq2> bye
[02:45] <pleia2> tsimonq2: is it in the loco team portal?
[02:45] <pleia2> we automatically pull in links from events on there :)
[02:46] <tsimonq2> pleia2: it's classified as a meeting
[02:46] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I worked really hard with prep and it would be awesome to get it in the newsletter
[02:47] <tsimonq2> pleia2: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/
[02:47] * tsimonq2 is still around, just busy :)
[02:48] <pleia2> ah, we currently only list events, but I'll see about adding it
[02:48] <tsimonq2> ok, cool :)
[02:48] <tsimonq2> pleia2: thanks :)
[02:51] <pleia2> tsimonq2: remember to add yourself to the credits if you want to be listed :)
[02:51] <tsimonq2> oh yeah
[02:51] <tsimonq2> thanks for reminding me
[02:52] * tsimonq2 has to have some way to prove that he contributed for his Membership application ;D
[02:54] <pleia2> :)
[02:55] <tsimonq2> pleia2: speaking of which, applying June 2, 2016
[02:55] <tsimonq2> :D
[02:55] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:56] <pleia2> cool
[02:56] <tsimonq2> ok, cya
[03:22] <pleia2> hehe, the post about ubucon paris is in spanish
[03:22] <tsimonq2> :D
[03:23] <tsimonq2> pleia2: are you getting them translated into English, or just ignoring them>
[03:24] <pleia2> tsimonq2: happen to have a link to your WI meeting?
[03:24] <pleia2> I write the summary in english and then note that the post it in spanish in the summary
[03:24] <pleia2> like: Costales shares a day by day journal of activities he particpated in at Ubucon Paris, including a series of 25 photos taken throughout the event. Post is in Spanish (not French!).
[03:25] <tsimonq2> pleia2: all details are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/WisconsinTeam/20151201
[03:25] <tsimonq2> pleia2: or all the links
[03:26] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I wrote a god-awfully long mailing list post
[03:26] <tsimonq2> pleia2: that has all the details you would ever need about it :D
[03:26] <pleia2> heh :)
[03:26] <pleia2> yeah, we don't typically include team meetings :\
[03:27] <pleia2> it's certainly something we can discuss, and see about rewriting the script to pull them in, but it wouldn't be fair to just include one
[03:27] <tsimonq2> pleia2: well if you don't want to include it, then don't include it! :P
[03:27] <tsimonq2> pleia2: it was just a suggestion
[03:27] <pleia2> not about wanting, we just haven't really and the script only pulls in events
[03:27] <pleia2> it's a good suggestion, we can see what others think :)
[03:28] <tsimonq2> ok :)
[03:28] <tsimonq2> we have other meetings
[03:28] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[03:28] <tsimonq2> and it IS archived on YouTube
[03:29] * pleia2 nods
[03:46] <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue444
[03:50] * pleia2 ships to editors
[12:15] <jose> pleia2: sorry, been busy :(
[17:11] <PaulW2U> editorial review done
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[15:39] <Dorfen`> Hejsa nogen til stede der har 5 min til at hjælpe med at få min gnome terminal til at vise host i title? Det vil sgu ikke som jeg vil.
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[08:35] <dholbach> good morning
[08:47] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:53] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[09:11] <czajkowski> Aloha
[09:11] <nigelb> czajkowski: Congrats on CC elections :)
[09:14] <czajkowski> nigelb: THank you
[09:14] <czajkowski> looking forward to working with more great people in our community
[09:15] <nigelb> :)
[10:14] * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[11:34] <dholbach> davidcalle, are we still waiting on IS for a db udpate on staging?
[11:41] <davidcalle> dholbach, we are, in the meantime I'm testing what I can :)
[11:42] <dholbach> it will be interesting to see how it works with live data :)
[16:09] <balloons> popey, jose, happy monday to you. Shall we have a quick HO today / tomorrow to talk GCI?
[16:10] <jose> balloons, popey: tomorrow 14 UTC sounds good to you?
[16:13] <balloons> tomorrow morning is pretty full for me; I'd guess popey as well actually. Is there a time later today?
[16:26] <balloons> jose, ^^
[16:36] <jose> hmm, later today is popey gonna be available?
[16:45] <popey> depends on the time, I have loads of family stuff on a monday night
[16:45] <popey> but ping me, and I'll be there if I can
[16:50] <balloons> ok, well, I really just wanted to discuss the last big push for tasks. As you know, we need to get to at least 75, and should have alot more. It's time to follow-up with all the mentors and make sure they have things in the tool
[16:52] <dholbach> all rightie... I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
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[07:37] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jEjWmJu4FU&feature=youtu.be
[07:37] <datase> YouTube: Naduvani lik i prodavačica - 0:00:08 - 391217 views - 2623 likes / 311 dislikes
[07:47] <dodobas> yutro
[07:51] <Mmike> cpu mi lockan na 800 HMz
[07:57] <dodobas> Mmike: genijalno ... bar ce manje struje trosit :)
[08:23] <SilverSpace> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeZYqwlgUUE
[08:34] <dodobas> e Mmike ... http://www.devopsbookmarks.com/
[08:46] <Mmike> dodobas: odlicno!
[08:46] <Mmike> dodobas: zash na bf ne stavis to?
[08:54] <dodobas> bf?
[08:58] <jelly-home> basefook
[09:00] <dodobas> to je dobro ime :)
[09:03] <dodobas> uh... lag je 15sek...
[09:55] <SilverSpace> Mmike: ovo tebi treba a ne meteo stanica http://is.gd/CREfbA
[09:56] <Mmike> hehe, da :)
[09:56] <SilverSpace> :)
[10:01] <SilverSpace> kak se ono bash opet ucita
[10:01] <SilverSpace> -bash: reboot: command not found
[10:03] <Mmike> probaj: restart :D
[10:03] <Mmike> SilverSpace: rehash
[10:03] <Mmike> u biti, ne
[10:03] <Mmike> kaj oces napravit?
[10:03] <Mmike> (rehash je bilo u tcsh :D )
[10:03] <SilverSpace> -bash: /root/.bashrc: No such file or directory
[10:03] <Mmike> ok?
[10:04] <SilverSpace> bash paket mi se nadogradio
[10:04] <SilverSpace> i sad ne radi
[10:04] <SilverSpace> reboot mi ne gine
[10:04] <SilverSpace> ni jedna naredba mi ne radi iz terminala
[10:05] <Mmike> SilverSpace: jel' to koristis ubuntu 18.20? :)
[10:05] <SilverSpace> :)
[10:05] <SilverSpace> arch na rpi
[10:06] <Mmike> eh
[10:06] <Mmike> dodobasa pitaj, on ti zna arch
[10:11] <dodobas> SilverSpace: /usr/bin/bash -l
[10:13] <SilverSpace> http://jebo.me/pas/6@raw
[10:13] <SilverSpace> dodobas: thx
[10:13] <SilverSpace> odoh van na vijetar
[10:14] <SilverSpace> vi*
[10:14] <SilverSpace> fiju briju
[10:18] <api984> dali netko zna sta je bilo sa freenodom jucer?
[10:19] <api984> server full stalno
[10:23] <Mmike> api984: ddos
[10:23] <api984> Mmike: bilo na nekim newsima ili?
[10:23] <api984> Mmike: thanks
[10:24] <vileni> probali su instalirati dos jer je linux bezveze
[10:24] <Mmike> na tviteru sam citao
[10:24] <Mmike> ahaha
[10:24] <Mmike> vileni: lol :)
[10:26] <vileni> crvenokapi certificirani inzinjer vileni, molim lijepo
[10:30] <Mmike> vileni: ooo
[10:31] <Mmike> vileni: ooooo
[10:31] <Mmike> vileni: ooooooooooooo
[10:37] <vileni> Mmike: sad cu imati vremena gnjaviti te za juju :)
[10:40] <Mmike> :)
[10:48] <dodobas> vileni: a tetovaza... jesi je stavio ? :)
[10:48] <vileni> dodobas: da ne mrzim redhat, mozda :)
[10:49] <ivoks> jel se netko igrao sa parprouted?
[10:49] <ivoks> parprouted is designed for and tested only with Linux 2.4.x kernels.
[10:49] <ivoks> (C) 2004, Vladimir Ivaschenko <[email protected]>
[10:49] <ivoks> a radi savrseno
[10:54] <ivoks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhuYzIQ1Zos
[10:54] <datase> YouTube: LiveLeak - Bizarre accident with vehicle tail left in air by unknown force - 0:00:20 - 1521495 views - 1582 likes / 113 dislikes
[11:03] <Mmike> kabl, zica, strik
[11:03] <Mmike> ili sto vec
[11:04] <SilverSpace> da rijesili su to da je kamion zapeo za zicu tj. neki kabel
[11:04] <SilverSpace> ovaj skroz desno kamion
[11:05] <SilverSpace> vidi se lik kako je dotrcao do kamiona
[11:14] <Mmike> https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/3ugh9j/bizarre_accident_in_china_invisible_cable_on_road/
[11:17] <jelly-home> kak ste to tek sad vidli, to je od petka ili subote
[11:17] <Mmike> mi radimo, jelly
[11:22] <SilverSpace> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRCcGUvmZDE
[11:22] <datase> YouTube: Beetham Tower Humming - 0:00:38 - 36560 views - 164 likes / 4 dislikes
[11:58] <Mmike> SilverSpace: http://i.imgur.com/Y3vojpu.png
[12:05] <jelly-home> lemilica sa namjestanjem temperature za 100kn http://www.banggood.com/907-Constant-Temperature-Electric-Soldering-Iron-Lead-free-22OV-60W-p-920554.html
[12:06] <jelly-home> Mmike: prek vikenda radimo, prek tjedna citamo gluposti na internetu? :-)
[12:08] <vileni> jelly-home: mislis da valja to ista?
[12:11] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/azEi1j
[12:12] <ivoks> ha
[12:12] <ivoks> konzum.hr/klik
[12:13] <ivoks> ma jel...
[12:13] <ivoks> ne moram traziti po ducanima
[12:13] <SilverSpace> jelly-home: iz iskustva kazem da to nije dobro
[12:14] <SilverSpace> ta sranja se jako cesto kvare
[12:14] <vileni> ivoks: sta nije to vec godinama?
[12:14] <vileni> tj, neznam koji je dio tu novi
[12:15] <Mmike> tam di je bio getrro na vrbanima
[12:15] <Mmike> sad je konzum drive-in
[12:16] <SilverSpace> vileni: danas se hvale da su neke novine uveli
[12:16] <ivoks> vileni: veci je izbor sad
[12:17] <vileni> mi smo uredno prije narucivali kad smo zivjeli u maksimiru, na 4. katu bez lifta :)
[12:27] <Mmike> vileni: i donesu doma?
[12:27] <Mmike> ja ne znam zakaj to ne radim, neg gubim vrijeme jednom tjedno
[12:29] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGwwGXCKIag <- a fail :) (prvi samo sam pogledao)
[12:29] <datase> YouTube: BEST CRANE ACCIDENTS || Ultimate Crane Fails Compilation - 0:06:56 - 13477 views - 19 likes / 1 dislikes
[12:36] <jelly-home> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYXKaAzEJrk sam da mi datase veli kaj je to
[12:36] <datase> YouTube: Homeless Man Under Pressure.mov - 0:04:01 - 1847021 views - 14764 likes / 235 dislikes
idu mandarine sutra posli pošaljem mail samo sad idem na sastanak
[13:07] <vileni> Mmike: da, culi su se od drugog kata kako uzdisu vec :)
[13:07] <vileni> par puta su dosli kad i ja, pa sam im pomogao
[13:08] <vileni> ali fora je da mozes spremiti shopping liste, pa se podsjetis po njima sto treba kupiti, ili reuse kompletne liste uz modifikacije
[13:09] <vileni> a imali su, tj mozda jos uvijek imaju opciju "pokupi", za konzum u sarajevskoj
[13:09] <vileni> onda je cura naklikala sto treba, min 200kn, i ja sam sa posla stao autom iza u kod skladista i samo ubacim kutije u auto, da ne placam dostavu
[13:13] <Mmike> jelly-home: count me in
[13:16] <vileni> kad bi bila dostava?
[13:20] <Mmike> i jel' ze moze doplatit da dodje doma, k'o konzum? :)
[13:26] <vileni> Mmike: pa sta nije poanta toga i da se popije koji gemist, potrga koja stolica?
[13:26] <Mmike> naravno
[13:26] <Mmike> naravno! :)
[13:26] <Mmike> al' reko, da pitam, kad vec
[13:34] <jelly> Mmike: BotaniCar vileni obruT hbTabTabJebga Joško: mandarine stižu sutra, trebam narudžbu ODMAH SAD
[13:41] <jelly> vileni: dostava iza toga, srijeda ili cetvrtak ili sutra navecer
[13:43] <vileni> jelly: ako ima paket od 10, daj
[13:43] <jelly> ima vreća od 10, da
[13:44] <jelly> http://tinyurl.com/mandarineubuntu
[13:47] <Mmike> jelly: mene si ok upisao, thnx
[13:47] <Mmike> jelly: upioso sam si i marmeladu jednu
[13:47] <jelly> Mmike BotaniCar vileni obruT hb još ko: http://tinyurl.com/mandarineubuntu mmike, bot, pišem 1x7kg u nedostatku informacija, updateajte do 4
[13:48] <jelly> sata.
[13:49] <Mmike> scsi
[13:49] <Mmike> jelly: ne racuna dobro onaj? nije mi
[13:49] <Mmike> aha
[13:49] <Mmike> dobro racuna, moj mozak se muci danas nesto
[13:54] <jelly> obruT: tebi sam isto pisao 7kg na blef... ak neces, bude islo rodbini :-)
[13:54] <jelly> za hbognera ne znam jel tu il nije pa se ne usudim nist pisati
[13:56] <jelly> naravno da dobro računa, nije excel blesav
[13:57] <jelly> ak neko zna njegov broj, javite mu SMSom ili nesto
[13:57] <jelly> hbognerov, ne excelov.
[13:57] <dodobas> on je u novom sadu... AFAIK
[13:58] <jelly> znam da je nes pricao o NS da
[14:03] <dodobas> poslao sam mu poruku na hrbroj ...
[14:04] <Mmike> ivoks lookalike: https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12308340_10153825040936473_8373703642808237614_n.jpg?oh=6060e0fd41bcad078602c51c5cede75a&oe=56F606E5
[14:04] <jelly> tnx
[14:32] <obruT> jelly: ljubi te deda... moze :)
[14:35] <hbogner> o/
[14:36] <jelly> OHAI
[14:39] <jelly> ok, vidim da ste se dodali hbogner i dodobas, probat ću apdejat narudžbu... ne garantiram 100% jer je sve na brzinu
[14:51] <jelly-test> hmha
[14:52] <jelly-test> anyway. Primijetio i proslijedio update narudzbe za hbognera i dodobasa. Jebe me freenode i ddos na normalnoj konekciji pa neke poruke vjerojatno nisu prosle
[14:55] <ivoks> "Ja volim Republiku zato što u njoj stanujem. Ona je lijepa i velika i moja Republika se zove Jugoslavija".
[14:55] <ivoks> "Republika je država u kojoj ljudi žive slobodno i mirno, jer nad njima nitko ne vlada, a to se zove socijalizam".
[14:55] <ivoks> koji brainwash
[14:55] <ivoks> a pazi ovo
[14:55] <ivoks> ovo veli dijete od 8 godina:
[14:55] <ivoks> "Republika je jedno veliko društvo koje se ne odvaja jedno od drugog i ja volim Republiku zato što će krv prosuti za sve nas u Jugoslaviji..."
[15:00] <ivoks> ode kenny
[15:00] <ivoks> sta je vec 4?
[15:01] <jelly-test> hm, zasto mi za jelly veli "Cannot send to channel"
[15:01] <jelly> hm
[15:01] <jelly-test> sad radi
[15:01] <ivoks> ne znam
[15:01] <ivoks> ja nisam nista
[15:02] <jelly-test> %$#@ ddos
[15:16] <ivoks> mandarine
[15:17] <ivoks> jel to poskupilo?
[15:18] <ivoks> prije se pricalo da ce 1kg biti 3kn
[15:18] <ivoks> a vidi sad
[15:18] <jelly> pa i je 3-4 kune u ducanu
[15:18] <jelly> OTOH, ove... su fine.
[15:19] <ivoks> kaj sam zakasnio?
[15:19] <ivoks> a jebemu
[15:19] <jelly> cek da vidim
[15:20] <jelly> ivoks: koliko bi uzeo
[15:20] <ivoks> 7kg
[15:21] <jelly> ivoks: moze
[15:22] <ivoks> yay
[15:22] <ivoks> Mmike ce platiti za mene
[15:22] <ivoks> :)
[15:23] <jelly> naime kaj, likovi su jucer pobrali, danas dovezli i veceras-sutra ujutro prebace u male vrecice i kutije kako je ko narucio
[15:24] <ivoks> a hocu li ja dobiti r1?
[15:31] <jelly> hahahaha
[15:31] <SilverSpace> :)
[15:32] <SilverSpace> ako placa Mmike onda ce on dobit r1
[15:32] <SilverSpace> :)
[15:32] <jelly> nominalno to kolegica koja narucuje sve sama kupi, brijem
[15:52] <vileni> neznam jel to posvuda da ako failas na iq testu da te zaposle na helpdesku
[15:59] <jelly> neki put zavrsis u prodaji
[16:02] <vileni> jelly: :))
[16:25] <ivoks> nemojte tako
[16:25] <SilverSpace> vileni: :) tko te ljuti
[16:25] <ivoks> prodaja je komplicirana
[16:25] <ivoks> nekad moras cijeli dan golf igrati
[16:26] <ivoks> znas li ti koliko je to dosadan sport?
[16:38] <Mmike> zash ja danas doibijam blackriday emailove/
[16:38] <Mmike> ?
[16:38] <Mmike> ivoks: imas pun kufer pre glasnu tastaturu
[16:38] <ivoks> Mmike: to je james
[16:44] <hbogner> o/
[16:46] <jelly-test> \o
[16:47] <hbogner> poslao mi dodobas sms pa sam se zapisao
[16:47] <hbogner> i onda mi net crkao, valjda je proslo
[17:01] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer
[17:01] <hbogner> vecer
[17:06] <Mmike> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moz0MAzsxmU
[17:06] <datase> YouTube: [18+] Ladislav Nagy cuts Vitaly Sitnikov's throat with his blade - 0:03:11 - 92893 views - 133 likes / 15 dislikes
[17:06] <Mmike> gadno
[17:08] <ivoks> raspad Mosta
[17:08] <ivoks> al bas raspad :)
[17:17] <Vlado9A3CY> moj bi susjed na to rekao samo "a kaj moreš" :)
[17:20] <ivoks> a nis
[17:20] <ivoks> sad su ko sardine
[17:20] <ivoks> telia je ispojebala nes
[17:20] <ivoks> opet
[17:34] <jelly> ili je samo taj petrina problem, a ovi ne znaju dati jedinstvenu izjavu i odjebat ga
[17:38] <hbogner> jel znate kaj o altus-it ?
[17:41] <SilverSpace> benga ce poskupjet i to dosta tak bar kazu
[17:46] <jelly> da :-)
[17:48] <SilverSpace> http://autoklub.jutarnji.hr/foto-video--trabant-koji-bi-posramio-i-lamborghini-huracan-/1468122/
[18:42] <jelly> https://imgur.com/2KtsoHa
[18:43] <jelly> oho, valent na tv
[18:43] <vileni> Mmike: ovi se samo mnoze http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g294454-d8550344-Reviews-Brewdogs_Zagreb-Zagreb_Central_Croatia.html
[18:43] <Mmike> ivoks, lol (@aaiedu) :D
[18:44] <Mmike> vileni, bili dodobas i ja tamo
[18:44] <Mmike> vileni, nist posebno, a skupo
[18:44] <Mmike> burgeraj je bolji, iako je jos skuplji
[18:44] <Mmike> a i yellow submarine
[18:44] <Mmike> moram po pelene
[18:45] <jelly> hbogner: proslo je, samo izgleda nije prosla moja poruka tebi i dodobasu da je proslo ;)
[19:00] <hbogner> jelly, super
[19:08] <hbogner> laku noc
[19:08] <hbogner> cujemo se sutra
[21:52] <Mmike> mysqcli
[21:52] <Mmike> pgcli
[21:52] <Mmike> mrak!
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"SilverSpace",
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-doc
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[09:52] <yop> bonjour
[09:54] <yop> sous ubuntu 15.10 avec unity, comment éviter l'ouverture d'une nouvelle fenêtre de nautilus quand je clique sur l'icône "Fichiers" dans le launcher si une fenêtre est déjà ouverte ? merci
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"yop"
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[00:06] <lotuspsychje> * Connecting to barjavel.freenode.net (195.154.200.232:6667)
[00:06] <lotuspsychje> freenode under attack
[00:10] <daftykins> g'morn o/
[00:10] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[00:10] <daftykins> yeah it's been netsplitting goodness all night
[00:11] <lotuspsychje> they getting ddossed
[00:12] <daftykins> yip
[00:16] <lotuspsychje> oh oh hexchat lag
[00:19] <daftykins> i'll switch to morse code!
[00:19] <daftykins> ...
[00:19] <lotuspsychje> :p
[00:19] <lotuspsychje> _ _ _ ... _ _ _
[00:20] <daftykins> is that SOS ;D
[00:20] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[00:20] <daftykins> \o/
[00:21] <lotuspsychje> lol their getting wild in #freenode
[00:24] <daftykins> trolled?
[00:24] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[11:37] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, you are *late*
[11:37] <OerHeks> :-D
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> hexchat lag still dancing on the rythm of ddos
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> anyone got a stable ircd leaf without ddos?
[11:41] <OerHeks> currently that ddos is still going
[11:42] <OerHeks> so it is easy in #ubuntu :-D
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: i was here @ 1h00 this night lol
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> you are late!
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/popcorn-time-app-is-back-now-made-by-developers-from-around-the-world-496892.shtml
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> grmbl
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> your server stable? card.freenode.net?
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> or also lags?
[11:46] <OerHeks> pretty stable here..
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> lemme try it
[11:47] <OerHeks> carefull with that popcorn thingy, even with vpn ...
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: they hunt it down?
[11:47] <OerHeks> Sure, i dropped it in april.
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[12:00] <TJ-> morning :)
[12:00] <OerHeks> :-)
[12:56] <TJ-> looks like pikapi is up to their usual breakage tricks again
[13:05] <cfhowlett> TJ-, he's invisible to me: hexchat /ignore is WONDERRFUL.
[13:07] <TJ-> haha I actually get a perverse pleasure in seeing how 1 person can break things in so many ways... and not realise its their fault!
[13:07] <TJ-> cfhowlett: oooo... I got that mobo to speak to me! It doesn't drive the motherboard speaker as I had expected, it drives the 'front' audio output ... currently says either (in a strident voice!) "CPU is missing" or "CPU failed self-test"
[13:08] <cfhowlett> that sounds SO cool! put that on a host so I can hear it??
[13:08] <cfhowlett> mediagoblin.org
[13:09] <JanC> motherboard speakers are so 1980s :P
[13:11] * TJ- drops a sub-woofer in JanC's coffee
[13:12] <TJ-> cfhowlett: I'm going to do that later in the week. It helped me confirm the CPU was dead, not the mobo, so waiting for a replacement CPU then I'm hoping I can find, or write, Linux tools to program the WinBond chip with new messages
[13:12] <JanC> (more recent motherboards only come with a piezo buzzer instead of a real loudspeaker)
[13:13] <TJ-> I've spent part of the weekend using gEDA to draw the AMD K8 power control circuitry to figure it all out
[13:13] <cfhowlett> TJ-, if you succeed you MUST do a write up. Hell, customized bios messages? I would LOVE to play with that!
[13:13] <TJ-> Yeah, this board has a silk-screen for one but it isn't fitted
[13:13] <TJ-> cfhowlett: this isn't even in BIOS, the WinBond chip operates independently apparently.
[13:13] <cfhowlett> even beter
[13:14] <cfhowlett> better
[13:14] <TJ-> cfhowlett: obviously, since the BIOS code is executed by the CPU!
[13:14] <JanC> what architecture is that winbond chip?
[13:15] <TJ-> cfhowlett: that's why I want to set this up to confuse techies but having the mobo talk to them (with my customised recordings - 8-bit, 22kHz) without a CPU onboard, and ask them to find the hidden CPU :)
[13:16] <JanC> I know often Winbond chips are/were part of the chipset
[13:17] <JanC> I/O controllers & such
[13:20] <TJ-> see https://iam.tj/projects/misc/Winbond%20W83697HF.pdf
[13:20] <JanC> apparently they mostly make RAM & Flash nowadays?
[13:21] <JanC> "Forbidden" :)
[13:21] <TJ-> lol did I upload as the wrong user?
[13:22] <TJ-> try now
[13:22] <TJ-> it only have u+r for some reason
[13:23] * TJ- hides from motaka2 ... the session from hell on Saturday!
[13:24] <JanC> http://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-users-considering-class-action-lawsuit-against-microsoft-for-poor-system-performance-496880.shtml
[13:24] <JanC> """Plus, as far as the unauthorized access by Microsoft is concerned, the company has already explained that it doesn’t collect more than error information and app crash data, so no personal details are being sent from your computer."""
[13:24] <TJ-> JanC: I'm not 100% sure how the 'talking' is done, the Asus manual says its something to do with the Winbond chip, but I think there must be something else. It also says/illustrate Windows software to reprogram the sound files
[13:24] <JanC> journalists not aware that crash data often contains personal data? :P
[13:25] <TJ-> haha 'poor system performance' - so don't install crap on top of the OS!
[13:25] <JanC> TJ-: automatic updates
[13:26] <JanC> ah, like I thought it's a Winbond Super I/O chip
[13:26] <TJ-> JanC: right, but I've not yet seen a vanilla Windows OS system that suffers if it is kept with just the MS updaets to the OS. The problems usually develop when the users being installing various bloatware applications
[13:27] <JanC> well, if that hardware is old enough, Windows 10 is bloatware
[13:28] <TJ-> This motherboard includes the Winbond speech controller to support a
[13:28] <TJ-> special feature called the ASUS POST ReporterTM. This feature gives you
[13:28] <TJ-> vocal POST messages and alerts to inform you of system events and boot
[13:28] <TJ-> status. In case of a boot failure, you will hear the specific cause of the
[13:28] <TJ-> problem.
[13:28] <TJ-> It comes with software called "Winbond Voice Editor"
[13:29] <JanC> that Winbond chip does a lot more than just speech :)
[13:30] <TJ-> well obviously :)
[13:38] <JanC> really funny how half of the functionality of that chip was obsolete for a decade when that chip was made...
[13:38] <JanC> like the tape drive controller :P
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:45] <TJ-> I think the 'voice' support is in the custom 'Asus AS018 Deluxe', or the GPIO+Flash support of the Winbond chip is used
[13:54] <JanC> normally the "beeper" speaker/buzzer is attached to the Winbond, so it's likely involved, but it seems like some other chip would have to steer it
[13:59] <TJ-> Oh! the wronh ship! there's another much smaller one, W83791SD that does the speech. Didn't notice it skulking away at the back of the board with an unclear label
[14:01] <TJ-> https://iam.tj/projects/misc/Winbond%20W83791SD.pdf
[14:02] <TJ-> it can handle 133 different events; I'm going to be having a LOT of fun with this
[14:04] <TJ-> OK, and it uses an external - DIP8 socketed - serial flash memory. Fab!
[14:06] <TJ-> That means I can externall read and program it. Get some of those and keep the original untouched, and write the digitised sound into the new chips
[14:07] <TJ-> The installed chip is a 10A - that's 1Mbit
[14:13] <TJ-> Hmm, I'm seriously considering this mobo as the core of the monitoring system, seeing as it is active on +5VSB
[14:15] <JanC> TJ-: so the actual voice programming is just writing to the EEPROM that should be close to the W83791SD?
[14:15] <JanC> you could probably connect that chip & the EEPROM to an Arduino or something too (if you can unsolder them) :)
[14:20] <TJ-> haha maybe, but I am recommissioning this old mobo because it has a good mix of older disk controllers, so it can replace 2 others. These are kept to enable recreation of original hardware configurations for difficult disk forensics or recovery
[14:21] <TJ-> JanC: once I looked in the correct area of the mobo it all became clear :) I've been focused on drawing a schematic of the K8 power sequencing circuitry so hadn't given this 'fun' side much attention
[14:24] <TJ-> The serial Flash is on the IIC bus, so shouldn't be too difficult to create tools for it, if they don't alreayd exist
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> nasty lags
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: lol that motaka guy has been wining for days when youl be online :p
[15:10] <TJ-> From what I could tell the problems stem from trying and aborting a 12.04>14.04 upgrade
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: he showed me his grub previous kernels, he got 300
[15:11] <TJ-> I spent about 6, maybe 8, hours Saturday just getting him to have a remote PuTTY SSH link from a Vista PC, to enable collecting the logs
[15:11] <TJ-> 300!?!?
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> yes
[15:11] * TJ- falls off the chair
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> and he tested few of them, none boot into his system
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> he refuses to clean install lol
[15:12] <TJ-> Right. That's the last thing I said if trying to fix the broken upgrade with 'apt-get dist-upgrade' doesn't work
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> mixxed previous kernels with 3.2.. and pae
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> he totaly borked his system
[15:14] <TJ-> My problem was as soon as I gave support he stopped thinking for himself, I was pretty sure he was just sat there staring at the screen and waiting to be told everything
[15:14] <BluesKaj> should have had a separate /home partition
[15:14] <TJ-> He's in Iran, so I think there are some issues with censorship, HTTP proxy interceptions maybe
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> <motaka2> lotuspsychje: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hlyu24or7uib64/IMG_20151129_132848.jpg?dl=0
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yeah, I ponted a Iran user to PIA vpn ..he couldn't beleive how inexpensive it is
[15:18] <BluesKaj> an Iranian iuser, even
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ok it looks like the DDOS attacks are over for now, bbl
[15:20] <TJ-> BluesKaj sounds disappointed :D
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> i thought freenode would be handling this more professional
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> somebody must be really angry
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ok , konverstaion finally connects from Xenial
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: cool :p
[15:29] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, guess the DDOS attacka were preventing our servers here from connecting so i added a couple euro servers to my list
[15:29] <BluesKaj> and kornbluth connected, finally
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> i cant connect card.freenode.net
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> im on barjavel france
[15:30] <TJ-> if you use irc.freenode.net DNS will round-robin the server
[15:31] <BluesKaj> yeah , I used to use irc.freenode, but switched to NA servers, but it's so long ago I've forgotten why :-)
[15:32] <lotuspsychje_> ok on wolfe now
[15:32] <BluesKaj> card worked here
[15:36] <lotuspsychje_> seems like roundrobin is filling joins again
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ok, added irc.freenode.net to the bottom of the server list
[15:39] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[15:39] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:41] <BluesKaj> now I recall why I switched ...some servers were very laggy, so I added servers that were under 100ms from my location
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> ah ic
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> 0sec lag now
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> seems ddos is over
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yeah I have 30ms lag with card
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ms=millisecs
[15:42] <BluesKaj> thousands of a second
[15:44] <BluesKaj> it's a decent connection
[15:45] <BluesKaj> using a vpn slows it down somewhat, but it's still quite good at 250ms or 1/4th of a second or so
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> lol TJ- you cant hide!
[16:04] <JanC> I don't think irc.freenode.net is simple round-robin?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> yes
[16:07] <Pici> its just a bunch of cnames
[16:07] <TJ-> it is round-robin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13578022/
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> my irc was constantly de- and reconnecting, then lagging, just now
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: freenode had ddos attack
[16:11] <TJ-> I think we should rename that now, after all it's 20 years since DOS. It's now officially to be known as "DWinLoss"
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> ddos, exciting!
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> i want a ddos attack for xmas
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: and where have you been the last few hours!!!....
[16:13] <BluesKaj> and I'm trying to keep up with my Windows user friends, upgraded W7 to 10, but I"m confiicted by it :-)
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> the privacy nightmare will continue
[16:14] * TJ- wraps a 5.25" DR-DOS floppy and puts it under lotuspsychje's christmas tree
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> lol lol
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: throws back an amiga500
[16:15] <TJ-> Oooo yeah, I did some fab machine-code programming on the old amiga
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> ok and now i have to go to the dentist, another nightmare
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> cya guys in a bit :p
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: ill ask santa on my way out ok!
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> what got Motaka2's system in that state?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> he's been struggling for days now
[17:11] <BluesKaj> refuses to do a clean install and has no clue how to back up his data ?
[17:15] <TJ-> seems to be an aborted 12.04 > 14.04 release-upgrade
[17:19] <EriC^^> how's it going with motaka
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> bacon and eggs, at ease, as always
[17:38] <BluesKaj> looks like the ddos attacks are back up... card wenr down
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> good evening
[19:04] <GrizzlyKolsch> lotuspsychje, hi
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> hi GrizzlyKolsch
[19:05] <GrizzlyKolsch> lotuspsychje, how goes it?
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> fine tnx GrizzlyKolsch
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/libreoffice-now-has-more-than-1-million-of-active-users-496910.shtml
[19:16] <DJones> lotuspsychje: sokoll has already been banned from #httpd
[19:17] <DJones> As complained about in #freenode
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> DJones: oh tnx for letting us know
[19:17] <DJones> No worries
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> DJones: his question doesnt look very specicious here though?
[19:20] <DJones> No, not sure why they got banned
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> ok, as long as he keeps polite here :p
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> good evening EriC^^ and pauljw
[19:47] <EriC^^> evening lotuspsychje
[19:48] <pauljw> hi lotuspsychje :)
[19:48] <EriC^^> guess what, i fixed my iphone's wifi recently
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> nice!
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did you open the device?
[19:48] <EriC^^> it was grayed out, it's a bug in the iphone
[19:49] <EriC^^> nope, i tried something from youtube, you get a hairdryer and put it on the top part until the phone says "warning temperature very high you must turn off the phone to use it"
[19:49] <pauljw> brb...
[19:49] <EriC^^> then you turn it off and put it in the fridge for 5-10mins, turn it back on, and ta-da! it works!
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:50] <EriC^^> i was a little skeptical at first, but everyone was saying it worked, so i went for it :D
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> im not gonna put my bq 4.5 in the fridge :p
[19:50] <EriC^^> well, refrigerator :P
[19:55] <EriC^^> i found a 0day (by now like a 40-60day :P) on youtube, for ubuntu 14.04.2
[19:55] <EriC^^> easy root access from any user, it's a bug in fusermount
[19:56] <EriC^^> i tried it on a vm, it works!
[19:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: is there no USB for it?
[20:00] <EriC^^> TJ-: what do you mean?
[20:00] <EriC^^> the iphone?
[20:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: sorry, I meant to type "is there no USN for it?"
[20:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: Ubuntu Security Notice
[20:00] <EriC^^> the cve number?
[20:00] <EriC^^> hmm i think so, i checked 14.04.3 and it has a newer version and it doesn't work
[20:00] <EriC^^> holdon
[20:01] <EriC^^> http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/05/21/9
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> wb MonkeyDust
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> does somemone remember my password?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> erm
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> :p
[20:17] <pauljw> :)
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> think it was ddos666
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> great, tnx
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> active night after ddos :p
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: you can shutdown your botnet now :p
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i told him to put lubuntu on his laptop to speed things, and backup his data to there
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> but his laptop has broken usb and dvd lol
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> motaka
[20:34] <TJ-> really?
[20:34] <TJ-> this is the laptop with Vista + PuTTY on
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[20:35] <TJ-> I know it took about 3 hours to get PuTTY installed and working
[20:35] <TJ-> most of the problem being he failed to install openssh-server as instructed in the beginning, and then was reporting connection refused messages!
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:42] <Pici> o.O
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> Pici: this guy has been asking for whole week now :p
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[20:46] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje my connections drops after I disconnect the vpn server, but it autoconnects after 3 minutes
[20:46] <BluesKaj> on konversation
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: to freenode?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> weird
[20:50] <BluesKaj> not really, i"m connected the web and irc thru the vpn server if I choose to use it , otherwise it's just an ordinary ISP connection
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> kk
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[22:12] <pauljw> dinner-time, bbl...
[22:54] <daftykins> always the way, ask two questions - only get one response
[23:14] <DosTuMai> !song
[23:14] <DosTuMai> Oops. Sorry, wrong channel. >_>
[23:22] <daftykins> it should be the right channel!
[23:22] <daftykins> we'll get lotus back in the morning to sing
[23:24] * OerHeks plays airguitar
[23:25] <daftykins> :D
[23:26] * daftykins air drums
[23:29] <TJ-> I'm sorry, you need an OTA update to drums v2.01-beta3
[23:30] * OerHeks downloads a double-airguitar patch from piratebay
[23:31] * daftykins works out how to SSH into his air drums
[23:31] <TJ-> uhoh, was that symbals v0.99-rc2 I heard crashing there?
[23:31] * OerHeks hands a displayport cable to daftykins
[23:32] * daftykins chuckles
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu
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[00:08] <Guest23925> hey just got ubuntu running on the macbook. someone suggested there's something i can install to get the broadcom wifi working?
[00:09] <Gallomimia2> hey just got ubuntu running on the macbook. someone suggested there's something i can install to get the broadcom wifi working?
[00:09] <Gallomimia2> pardon doublepost
[00:09] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | Gallomimia
[00:15] <Gallomimia2> thanks lotuspsychje not exactly sure what path to take. the first step revealed that b43-pci-bridge is in use, but nothing is working
[00:16] <Gallomimia2> interesting. the GUI software settings is giving me options
[00:18] <daftykins> Gallomimia2: identify the chipset involved.
[00:18] <daftykins> lspci
[00:21] <Gallomimia2> its the bcm4322 and the gui window from settings is letting me install nvidia drivers and broadcom. it'll do it right after the massive main updates are done
[00:23] <lotuspsychje> Gallomimia: wich ubuntu version did you get on your macbook?
[00:24] <daftykins> Gallomimia2: nah reboot then go back there
[00:29] <mystupidnick> im trying "apt-get purge emacsen-common" which results in a unmet dependencies problem: kdelibs5-plugins depends of: libenchant1c2a (>= 1.6.0)
[00:29] <mystupidnick> any idea how i can resolve that problem or debug the cause of it?
[00:30] <daftykins> you had other crap going on; "sudo dpkg -r emacsen-common" would probably ignore your other problems
[00:30] <daftykins> but really you should just fix those
[00:30] <k1l> yes, that sounds more like there is another (maybe old) depency error still there
[00:31] <mystupidnick> daftykins: i've already tried apt-get -f install, apt-get autoclean, dpkg --reconfigure -a which is what i can think of
[00:32] <mystupidnick> daftykins: dpkg -r .. doesnt work because dictinaries-common depends on emacsen-common
[00:32] <daftykins> well that's nice and all, but i can't see their output from here
[00:34] <mystupidnick> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13568286/ has the commands outputs
[00:34] <Guest7206> guys, can't boot Kali from live usb on ubuntu. Any input?
[00:35] <daftykins> Guest7206: yep...
[00:35] <daftykins> !kali
[00:35] <daftykins> Guest7206: not supported here
[00:38] <Guest> hey daftykins
[00:38] <Guest> unfortunately, guest is an unspecified handle
[00:39] <Guest> so all these messages lit up my IRC client
[00:39] <Guest> but I am not their target
[00:39] <daftykins> i would not recommend being in here called that.
[00:39] <daftykins> i'd apologise, but that was extremely unwise of you
[00:39] <daftykins> about as good as being called 'ubuntu'
[00:48] <Gallomimia> well. my mission seemed a failure. upon rebooting with proprietary nvidia drivers i get the black screen. as usual (same as on my other system)
[00:48] <jason__> Gallomimia, where did you get the drivers?
[00:49] <Gallomimia> added them with GUI software & updates
[00:49] <jason__> Gallomimia, try the ones from the nvidia website. I've had better luck with them.
[00:49] <Gallomimia> so it clearly picked one with no input from me
[00:49] <Gallomimia> you have? mine has always blown up with that
[00:50] <Gallomimia> but first things first. any suggestions on getting it to boot with something visible? it's a macbook pro, and i had to try twice to get it to boot back into macos
[00:51] <Gallomimia> i don't get to see any grub as it is, or able to select any safemode
[01:11] <Bray90820> How would I change the mount point of a drive
[01:11] <daftykins> permanent mounts, edit /etc/fstab...
[01:12] <Bray90820> daftykins: Thanks
[01:12] <Gallomimia2> oh the wifi works! i'm on a livecd with automatic drivers
[01:12] <daftykins> didn't you install already o0
[01:12] <Gallomimia2> i need a tip for changing the drivers of the system installed on the internal drive
[01:12] <Gallomimia2> well no daftykins the video wouldn't work when i tried rebooting before
[01:13] <daftykins> ah from installing the nvidia? yeah not hugely surprised
[01:13] <Gallomimia2> nor i. its the same grief i have on the desktop
[01:13] <Gallomimia2> still a farcry better than dealing with an ati card
[01:14] <daftykins> :D *AMD
[01:14] <daftykins> well if you want to fix your install, just boot to recovery, then run "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* "
[01:14] <daftykins> no need to reinstall
[01:14] <Gallomimia2> that doesn't work out at all. there's no "recovery" option in this case
[01:15] <daftykins> should be if you pass to GRUB properly to get the menu
[01:15] <Gallomimia2> so some suggestions on that process would be welcome.
[01:15] <Gallomimia2> yeah that'd be great. any suggestions on how to see grub?
[01:15] <daftykins> it's hidden as default, so you'd need to hold left shift after selecting ubuntu, depends if you've used rEFInd or just using the hold-alt-after-chime method
[01:15] <Gallomimia2> alt after chime method
[01:16] <Gallomimia2> i'll try the left-shift. except the ubuntu install isn't showing up in that case
[01:16] <daftykins> o0 you probably want rEFInd
[01:16] <daftykins> !mac
[01:18] <Gallomimia2> thanks for that so far.
[01:18] <Gallomimia2> say thats some useful information about 10.10 using some LVM2
[01:19] <Gallomimia2> i was seriously wondering where the smeg the two additional partitions on my drive came from
[01:19] <daftykins> i avoid LVM
[01:21] <Durren> Hello! I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem? I'm pretty new. I just installed Ubuntu over Windows 10, but every time I reboot/turn on my computer I get sent to grub. I then have to set the root and prefix to load Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[01:22] <AbuDhar> daftykins: why?
[01:22] <filadome_> how can i launch KDE from xterm VNC Debian?
[01:44] <SmokeyD> hey everyone. In network manager applet, I see a wifi called "DIRECT-" with full strength, which my phone and a windows laptop don't see. If I do "iw wlan0 scan" in the terminal, it doesn't list that wifi though. Any ideas where it could come from?
[01:49] <filadome_> is it possible to run xfce through VNC? http://imgur.com/IR5e90E
[02:36] <Gallomimia> okay first.... rEFInd is awesome!!
[02:37] <Dun_> Hello, I am planning on joining google code in for ubuntu, and I was wondering whether or not I should prepare with a knowledge base of QML/C++ or HTML5/CSS/Javacript
[02:37] <Gallomimia> second, booting to safemode was hard. took 3 tries
[02:38] <Gallomimia> Dun_: depends what you want to do. programs or websites?
[02:38] <Dun_> Programs
[02:38] <Gallomimia> the former then
[02:38] <Gallomimia> tho i'll admit i don't know what qml is
[02:41] <Gallomimia> anyway, the third thing i need to say is... upon booting in safemode, my macbook pro still has a black screen. due to nvidia drivers. need some help in shutting them off using recovery mode
[02:44] <Joral> why would kvm-ok show that my cpu does not support virtualization when its a newer A-Series APU that does support amd-v?
[02:45] <frostschutz> never heard of kvm-ok before
[02:46] <Joral> frostschutz, following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation to debug my xen installation
[02:47] <OerHeks> Joral, what cpu / APU exactly? maybe you have to turn it on in the bios?
[02:48] <Joral> OerHeks, A8-6600k, and it virtualbox in windows recognized amd-v, but not kvm in linux.
[02:51] <OerHeks> kvm in linux on bare metal, or kvm in linux on virtualbox?
[02:52] <Joral> OerHeks, Bare metal. My ultimate goal is to have windows running as a domU for my son with the ability to have a "backend" of linux running on bare metal.
[02:56] <Joral> OerHeks, was simply pointing out that virtualbox on my windows install was able to detect and use amd-v which makes me think that the issue is in my current configuration and not bios.
[02:57] <OerHeks> Joral, jups, else windows could not detect it, so no bios issue/upgrade needed
[02:57] <OerHeks> i have no clue, find no simular bugs
[02:59] <Joral> OerHeks, I followed the steps in that link and it says that if I get the result that it gave me then the cpu does not support svm, but according to the wiki amd-v is amd's implementation of svm and my proc supports amd-v so it should work but its not.
[03:02] <Joral> OerHeks, the only other thing I can think is that xen is not passing the cpu flags to dom0 properly but that seems like a doubtful longshot given the popularity of amd cpus for virtualization
[03:04] <Joral> ok, going to reboot out of the hypervisor and see if that changes things.
[03:05] <OerHeks> Joral, no, amd-v works here http://imgur.com/e49FhQM
[03:11] <axwhy> hi, how to costumize multi touch on 15.10?
[03:12] <Gallomimia> hey i've got a macbook pro with ubuntu 14.10.3 installed. i installed the nvidia proprietary driver and now it boots to a black screen, even in failsafeX mode thru recovery mode. can anyone give me a hint on how to disable it?
[03:16] <Gallomimia> !mac
[03:21] <Joral> so I can now confirm that booting directly into ubuntu kvm-ok detects that kvm will work and lsmod shows the kvm and kvm_amd modules loaded. The issue pops up when I boot into the hypervisor (which is ironically when I need kvm)
[03:28] <mikeypizano> does anyone know if it is possible to install avant window manager on 15.10 mate?
[03:30] <OerHeks> avant window manager? url ?
[03:31] <OerHeks> all i know is avant window NAVIGATOR.
[03:33] <mikeypizano> sorry, meant navigator
[03:34] <OerHeks> Nope, https://launchpad.net/~awn-testing/+archive/ubuntu/ppa nor https://launchpad.net/~awn-core/+archive/ubuntu/ppa have packages for trusty or higher
[03:35] <mikeypizano> i tried cairo dock, plank and docky, cairo seemed to work way i wanted it to but glitchy
[03:36] <mikeypizano> what i am mainly looking for is for something simple, like docky or plank, that would work a bit more like windows 7/8/10
[03:37] <mikeypizano> like when hovering above pidgin, it would show what windows are open, cairo did this but it would get real glitchy on me
[03:40] <Gallomimia> argh. boot problems are so frustrating :(
[03:40] <Gallomimia> after seeing the number of times i need to use nomodeset, and the number of times i've seen others told to use nomodeset, i can't help but wonder why its an option at all. why isn't it the default?
[03:40] <mikeypizano> the worst are intermitent problems imo
[03:40] <Gallomimia> yes
[03:41] <Gallomimia> my other system doesn't produce consistent results when i try to boot it
[03:42] <mikeypizano> my favorite problems though are when it comes to something like engines, where you have one of the problems that is common to many issues and you have no idea what one you have
[03:48] <Gallomimia> seriously no one knows how to disable the video drivers without being able to boot normally? i am having grief. i can't even get recovery mode to show video now
[03:48] <k1l> Gallomimia: does nomodeset work or not?
[03:49] <Gallomimia> i just tried that in grub options pre-boot and no.
[03:49] <k1l> Gallomimia: you said it did work. did you change the drivers?
[03:49] <Gallomimia> but i added a lot of things as per: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Maverick
[03:50] <Gallomimia> yes
[03:50] <k1l> so you had a working solution with nomodeset. then added a lot of other stuff and it doesnt work now?
[03:51] <Gallomimia> no. it worked until i installed driver
[03:51] <k1l> you see that its for the 10.10 ubuntu which is now 5 years old?
[03:51] <k1l> there has changed a lot in kernels and drivers since then
[03:51] <Gallomimia> ah. i'll forget about that thenh
[03:52] <Gallomimia> anyway, i installed proprietary driver, now it's black-screen. no brightness
[03:53] <Gallomimia> i'd really really like to un-install it. and i'd like to do it without blasting that partition and reinstalling from the USB stick
[03:54] <Gallomimia> or not un-install, but disable till i can get the thing to boot
[03:54] <Gallomimia> i'll give it a go with nomodeset in grub and nothing else
[03:59] <Gallomimia> k1l: nomodeset does not change the result.
[03:59] <Gallomimia> the ubuntu splash shows, the loading indicators fill immediately, and then the display turns OFF. it doesn't go blank
[04:07] <gee111> can ntfs be converted to linux?
[04:08] <Gallomimia> um... define "converted"
[04:08] <k1l> gee111: you mean without loosing all the data inside that partition?
[04:09] <Joral> does xen simply use the dom0 kernel, or is there another kernel option I am missing?
[04:13] <Gallomimia> gee111 something happening?
[04:23] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What are the dangers of updating GTK+? My Ubuntu 14.04 is using 3.10 and the latest stable release is 3.18. Can someone explain?
[04:26] <k1l> VictoriaXOXO: breaking all your ubuntu :)
[04:26] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, if you say stable, test it :-D > https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3-staging
[04:26] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l: Why does everything break? :(
[04:26] <OerHeks> let us know what breaks.
[04:27] <Gallomimia> because if it didn't, people who love to fix things would be bored and kill themselves :(
[04:28] <k1l> VictoriaXOXO: changing the gtk version on a gnome based desktop is quite a heavy change. so there is the risk that quite a lot wont work properly afterwards. if you have a PPA or such that keep track of all the depencies it can work.
[04:29] <k1l> VictoriaXOXO: but then i ask myself why you are on 14.04 if you want to change that much and make it unstable again.
[04:29] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l: Oh, okay. I guess I'll just keep my current theme then. :P
[04:29] <axwhy> anyone know how to change multi touch behaviour?
[04:29] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l: No, I just found ONE theme (for once) that I liked.
[04:29] <VictoriaXOXO> I usually never changes things.
[04:30] <axwhy> ie current four finger swipe is launching dash, i want this action to swipe workspace/desktop
[04:30] <k1l> VictoriaXOXO: thats like changing the car just for the colour :)
[04:31] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l: But what if the color is aaaaaaaawesome?
[04:36] <VictoriaXOXO> Brb.
[04:51] <kanha> Hi, My ubuntu 14.04 hangs when I opens any application, after booting. When is used 'top' command I found that '.ruby.bin' is using 98% of cpu resource. Is this the problem why my system hangs? And how can I fix it?
[05:00] <SlidingHorn> kanha, sounds like you have a ruby-based program that's bogging you down. Do you recall installing anything that required you to add ruby?
[05:03] <imthenachoman> hey guys. so i am installing ubuntu on my personal/home media server. it'll have plex home theather and owncloud running on it. i'm tossed on which one to use. i know 14.04 LTS it the recommended but then 16.04 comes out soon and i'm wondering how easy it'll be to upgrade from 14.04 vs 15.10
[05:04] <SlidingHorn> imthenachoman, typically, LTS releases are made to roll from one to the next
[05:06] <k1l> from 14.04 to 15.10 is not that easy. . but you can go from 14.04 to 16.04 on the LTS upgrade once 16.04.1 is released.
[05:07] <k1l> so either you install 15.10 now and make the upgrade to 16.04, or you install 14.04 and make the LTS upgrade later.
[05:08] <Lewoco__> What is an app that creates a notification area icon? I need one for testing purposes...
[06:03] <mloza> Hi, I'm using MATE as DE. I change the default mate-screensaver with xscreensaver and now the Lock Screen button in the System menu is not working. How do I modify the command underneath the Lock Screen button?
[06:04] <TSS> when is 16.04 set to be released?
[06:08] <k1l> TSS: in april 2016
[06:09] <k1l> !16.04
[06:19] <Doonz> Hey everyone im having trouble with ocale settings. I have a init.d script that runs with out any errors. The script is set to use my user name in it. When i log in to the shell under my user name my locales are fine. But when the script does it the locales are set correctly. How or who does that script run under also can i just put in the locale settings in it to run? Ubuntu Server 14.04
[06:29] <sloth> hello, I installed twily's style for firefox, but i'm not sure how to bring back the url bar
[06:30] <sloth> join arch-linux
[06:30] <sloth> sorry
[06:33] <goaog> i removed systemd and rebooted, is dbus why mouse and keyboard don't work in X (tty works)?
[06:36] <Austin_Wall_> daftykins: For some reason the kernel didn't update when I upgraded to 15.04
[06:36] <Austin_Wall_> Just thought I'd let you know that everything is working much better now that I've updated it lol
[06:38] <Gallomimia> i have some success! ubuntu running on my macbook and using broadcom wifi
[06:39] <Dat> i need to find away to install my printer
[06:39] <Dat> well all-in-one printer
[06:39] <Dat> Gallomimia: why did you install ubuntu on your macbook
[06:40] <Gallomimia> because i came home one day to a macbook with 8gb of ram, running only firefox, mail, and steam, and the thing was swapping hard and wouldn't play me a video that i'd already loaded in streaming
[06:41] <Gallomimia> i found 4 processes eating hundreds of megs each doing nothing about system updates
[06:41] <Gallomimia> i'd been meaning to get the ubuntu installed for months now, but that was the last straw.
[06:42] <Dat> oic
[06:42] <Gallomimia> now. there's the question of whether to get the proprietary nvidia driver installed
[06:43] <Gallomimia> the last time i put that in, the display shutdown and i ended up reinstalling
[06:43] <Gallomimia> which involves some time spent sitting next to the DSL modem wired into it :(
[06:43] <Gallomimia> stupid broadcom....
[06:44] <Dat> ;/
[06:46] <Gallomimia> imagine the day when no one will use closed source software ever. anyone who makes hardware that's closed source gets laughed at
[06:50] <auzty_> hello, why my ubuntu grub cannot find the grub.cfg file?
[06:51] <auzty_> i always get grub cli when starting my notebook
[06:53] <auzty_> i always get grub cli when starting my notebook
[07:06] <Gallomimia> !flash
[07:10] <Gallomimia> if i install flash as ubottu suggested, will i need to restart the firefox browser?
[07:11] <nakedpwr> hey everyone
[07:11] <nakedpwr> i really have a question and i researched it out and i cant find a solution.
[07:12] <Gallomimia> !ask
[07:13] <nakedpwr> i am using an asus eeepc netbook and have installed ubuntu mat 15.10 but have no sound.
[07:14] <Gallomimia> !eeepc
[07:14] <nakedpwr> i looked there
[07:14] <nakedpwr> i didnt see a sound fix.
[07:14] <Gallomimia> i knew there was something special about that! yeah. there's reams of info. and a whole nother channel
[07:15] <jtreminio> Evening all. If I have a key fragment like 3D624A3B how do I fetch the full string?
[07:15] <Gallomimia> nakedpwr: you now know more than me about this. sorry i wasn't more helpful
[07:16] <Gallomimia> jtreminio: you "have" it? where's the full key?
[07:16] <jtreminio> Gallomimia: this is what I have: http://pastie.org/10591431
[07:16] <Gallomimia> i'd think you'll want to use grep or sed
[07:17] <jtreminio> But I need the full 41-character fingerprint
[07:18] <jtreminio> I can't seem to find it listed on keys.gnupg.net, either.
[07:22] <Gallomimia> right on. now i have a laptop that runs ubuntu, works with my wifi and bluetooth headphones, and runs videos in flash player.
[07:22] <Gallomimia> i still need to get a proprietary nvidia driver to work and get steam to run. and i'd like to find a way to get the buttons on my headphones to pause whatever i'm watching
[07:23] <hateball> Gallomimia: are you on 15.10? the nvidia driver should show up in the driver installer gui
[07:23] <Gallomimia> no it's 14.04.3
[07:23] <hateball> Well, it should show there as well
[07:24] <hateball> Gallomimia: you can also run "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" in a terminal
[07:24] <hateball> that will list if there are drivers available
[07:24] <Gallomimia> and indeed the driver does show up there. and the last time i tried it wound up with a screen that shut off before boot finished, and ended up reinstalling the entire partition
[07:24] <hateball> Gallomimia: what card is it?
[07:24] <Gallomimia> 320m
[07:25] <hateball> Gallomimia: are you using a macbook?
[07:25] <Gallomimia> yessir
[07:26] <Gallomimia> i'd say it's going pretty well so far.
[07:26] <Gallomimia> and the graphics are doing just fine without any 3d programs involved with neavou (sp?)
[07:27] <hateball> Yeah
[07:27] <hateball> Gallomimia: Which driver version did you try to activate?
[07:27] <Gallomimia> the top of the list. it was proprietary, newest version. said (tested)
[07:27] <hateball> Gallomimia: I think 340 is the latest one that supports the 320m card
[07:28] <Gallomimia> okay well i have a good quantity of experience with installs being completely worthless after installing a driver like this, so let me ask you first. do you have any suggestions on un-installing the driver should it fail to work?
[07:28] <hateball> Yep, seems any more recent than that and it's 4xx and up that are supported only
[07:29] <Gallomimia> since i have yet another system with nvidia card giving me black-screen to fix next
[07:30] <hateball> Gallomimia: You could install the driver using "sudo apt-get install nvidia-340", if it fails to load X properly after that you can switch to a tty with ctrl+alt+f1 and log in. then "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-340" and it should go back to nouevea
[07:31] <hateball> damn spelling
[07:31] <Gallomimia> oh yeah that'll help
[07:31] <Gallomimia> i think.... let's try it!
[07:32] <Gallomimia> hm. it works with my external keyboard. but not the built in
[07:33] <hateball> I have zero experience with apple hardware so I don't know if it has any other form of weirdness
[07:33] <Gallomimia> k here goes
[07:33] <Gallomimia> yeah the keyboard is wonky cause it has a slightly different alt key, then there's the command key, and it has Fn too cause it's a lappy
[07:34] <Gallomimia> uh. now obviously i should be rebooting after this driver change? or can i try it without
[07:34] <hateball> Gallomimia: you have to reboot for kernel modules to loda
[07:35] <Gallomimia> first i'll install rEFInd
[07:36] <Gallomimia> re-install, since ubuntu installer nuked it
[07:41] <Gallomimia> okay. here's hoping.
[07:44] <eatingthenight> Environment variables seem like they are not being respected with logging in with notty. For instance I have in my ~/.ssh/environment file a CCACHE_DIR=/something set
[07:45] <eatingthenight> but it keeps using $HOME/.ccache
[07:45] <eatingthenight> even though i can clearly see when running ssh host 'env'
[07:45] <eatingthenight> that CCACHE_DIR is set
[07:54] <Gallomimia> hateball: unfortunately both of your theories have failed to produce. the nvidia driver yeilded the expected results: the screen turns off. and there's nothing i can seem to do to get a commandline prompt and take the driver out
[07:57] <hateball> Gallomimia: ctrl+alt+f1 is blank as well?
[07:57] <Gallomimia> i think i've miscommunicated
[07:57] <Gallomimia> the screen is not blank....
[07:57] <Gallomimia> it is OFF
[07:58] <hateball> oh
[07:58] <hateball> Gallomimia: can you boot to recovery console?
[07:58] <Gallomimia> that i've had some trouble getting going
[07:58] <Gallomimia> and i'm disadvantaged because this is my only running computer to check irc or browsers with
[07:59] <Gallomimia> so, what should i do if i can? i suppose... apt-get remove
[07:59] <hateball> Gallomimia: yes, "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-340"
[07:59] <hateball> Gallomimia: that should kill the nvidia blob and take nouveau off blacklist
[08:01] <Gallomimia> ok. then i have the theory that there's some bug changing it to brightness zero, and everything else is working great
[08:05] <hateball> Gallomimia: As I said I have zero experience with apple hardware, I dont know if there are some specific gotchas
[08:06] <hateball> Gallomimia: a google gave http://askubuntu.com/questions/269726/ubuntu-12-10-nvidia-geforce-320m-macbook-mid-2010-white-clamshell
[08:07] <hateball> Gallomimia: suggesting the blob only works with legacy bios mode, but I have no idea if that is accurate
[08:08] <OerHeks> If it is the gforce 320m, here is a xorg line " Option "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1" in the wiki, for macbook, not sure it will work for you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Trusty
[08:09] <hateball> Gallomimia: You could liveboot and edit the xorg.conf as suggested ^
[08:23] <kpo_yudi> Megafinance
[08:24] <LucyParsons> Megafauna
[08:26] <Gallomimia> phew. finally got the proprietary drivers out of there
[08:39] <Gallomimia> think i'll give up on the steam and the video drivers for now. i can always boot into mac to play things.
[08:41] <Kartagis> is avconv giving me [buffer @ 0x8dfe020] Invalid pixel format string '-1' because my .mkv has got a video codec unknown to my system?
[08:56] <ubuntu_25> hola
[08:56] <ubuntu_25> q tal
[08:56] <ubuntu_25> :D
[08:56] <ameurux> ih
[08:56] <ameurux> hi
[08:57] <MichaelHabib> ameurux: ih is fine, I can read RtL
[08:57] <ameurux> lol
[08:58] <MichaelHabib> was that lol RtL or LtR ?
[08:58] <ameurux> :d
[08:59] <MichaelHabib> Off topic question, which PMS and CRM do you use ? doing some research but they all claim to be "the best" so want to get some feedback from people who actually use these softwares.
[08:59] <MichaelHabib> PMS (Projects Management Software)
[09:00] <Kartagis> is avconv giving me [buffer @ 0x8dfe020] Invalid pixel format string '-1' because my .mkv has got a video codec unknown to my system?
[09:00] <k1l> that sort of experience exchange is better suited into #ubuntu-offtopic MichaelHabib
[09:01] <MichaelHabib> k1l: ok thanks :)
[09:03] <dimitry7> hi guys
[09:03] <dimitry7> pear.php.net is down
[09:03] <dimitry7> its urgent that i install the DB module, I have my site down and DB is missing
[09:21] <OerHeks> dimitry7, yes, it is down, there is one way to get what you need, internet archive, last snapshot 26 oct >> https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://pear.php.net/
[09:21] <dimitry7> OerHeks, thank you man!!!
[09:21] <OerHeks> have fun!
[09:21] <dimitry7> :D
[09:22] <dimitry7> U 2!!
[09:22] <OerHeks> .. where the streets have nóóó name ...
[09:23] <Gallomimia> any easy way to get a nat go on ubuntu?
[09:25] <Gallomimia> sweet. got t
[09:54] <mike25_> Where can I find help pages for virtualizing 14.04 in LXC? I could only find how to install lxc in ubuntu, including on the lts guide frmo ubuntu.com. I want the opposite.
[10:03] <`rag> how can you tell which program is causing a problem
[10:06] <sysop-rick> Hi! i have a minor issue and i know that it does not have anything to do with Ubuntu but i will ask the question anyways for guideline purpose.
[10:06] <sysop-rick> i have a Freenas machine, and within that machine i have a Seagate hard drive that is about to break. Today i bought a Western Digital 3TB Red (It's been made to be used in a NAS environment/NAS machine)
[10:07] <sysop-rick> what is the way to do/most efficient way to move all my information from the broken drive to the new fresh one
[10:07] <sysop-rick> is it to mount my broken hard drive with some kind of ZFS libraries on my Macbook and then use rsync to send all information to my new imported/new formatted ZFS drive?
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[10:33] <Myrtti> oof
[10:33] <Myrtti> sorry
[10:46] <Aaran> I seem to have broken my cups install
[10:47] <Aaran> I can go to http://localhost:631/ which loads fine but if I try to enter http://localhost:631/admin I get a page that just says "Not Found"
[10:54] <miroesq> I just installed Ubuntu 14 with KDE and am while I can see some wifi networks, I can not see my home network.
[11:09] <pineapple1> Hi trying to write a bash script and using $$ pid. Not sure how to run the script so I get the same $$ value each time I run it
[11:09] <l7l> hi, could someone give me a hint on how to install a server, where multiple users can connect via rdp and login to their -individual- workspace? Has anyone experiences on how to dimension such a server memory/cpu wise? thanks in advance
[11:11] <cliGeezer> miroesq: when you see the list of wifi networks, did you see where it says more networks right below..there will be more in the list
[11:14] <miroesq> cliGeezer: didn't see that, but i will look at it again. thank you
[11:17] <akik> l7l: i recommend x2go for that use case
[11:19] <l7l> akik: many thanks! do you have experience with that?
[11:19] <l7l> akik: like memory usage for each connection?
[11:20] <akik> l7l: it depends on the desktop environment you are using
[11:20] <akik> l7l: for kde, i think it was something like 300-400 megabytes per connection
[11:21] <l7l> akik: ah ok, great
[11:21] <akik> l7l: x2go uses only ssh for connectivity and you can use ssh keys for authentication
[11:22] <l7l> akik: as it is a research environment for non cs-students, i thought about using http://guac-dev.org/
[11:23] <akik> l7l: did you try that already?
[11:23] <l7l> no but i will have a look at it
[11:24] <l7l> i just dont have any experiences on how to dimension the system specification
[11:25] <l7l> akik: and it looks pretty easy to use on the client side
[11:30] <miroesq> cliGeezer: I don't have a button that says more. this is ubuntu 14, but it is running on an armv7 machine
[11:33] <OerHeks> miroesq, you should have, "more networks"
[11:35] <miroesq> cliGeezer: I can pastebin a pic. I have a little icon of a wall socket and a wire coming out of it on the bottom right of my desktop. when i click on it, i see my wired connection, one wireless network, an option to connect to hidden wi-fi networks, option to create new wifi network and vpn connections, that's it
[11:50] <RicardoHasudunga> hey all
[11:50] <RicardoHasudunga> how to install application fromsoftware center on ubuntu old version?ubuntu karmic koala 9.10
[11:51] <HeisenbergsDog> lol wtf
[11:51] <RicardoHasudunga> why?
[11:51] <OerHeks> RicardoHasudunga, that version is EOL, don't use it.
[11:51] <RicardoHasudunga> why?
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> !karmic | RicardoHasudunga
[11:51] <HeisenbergsDog> RicardoHasudunga, why are you running such an old ubuntu?
[11:52] <RicardoHasudunga> because i have cd of ubuntu karmickoala
[11:52] <OerHeks> servers are down, to make space for supported versions
[11:52] <HeisenbergsDog> so? leech wily, burn it
[11:52] <RicardoHasudunga> so?i can't install application fromubuntu karmic koala? :(
[11:52] <RicardoHasudunga> from software center
[11:53] <RicardoHasudunga> no i purchase that cd
[11:53] <SlidingHorn> RicardoHasudunga, ubuntu is completely free...always has been
[11:53] <HeisenbergsDog> yeah
[11:54] <HeisenbergsDog> i strongly suggest to download the newest
[11:54] <HeisenbergsDog> which is wily, i think
[11:55] <HeisenbergsDog> remember, wolves eat koalas for breakfast
[11:56] <SlidingHorn> touché
[12:03] <Yerm> hey all
[12:06] <castle_> hello dears
[12:06] <castle_> i'm new on ubuntu
[12:06] <castle_> i want to ask that
[12:06] <castle_> can i install iis on ubunut like windows iis
[12:07] <jpds> castle_: No, use an actual web server like apache2/nginx
[12:08] <castle_> ok . its mean we cant use asp on ubuntu i think
[12:08] <HeisenbergsDog> nginx...works but sucks
[12:08] <jpds> castle_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/184243/how-to-run-asp-net-in-ubuntu-using-apache
[12:08] <HeisenbergsDog> apache2 ftw!
[12:08] <castle_> thank you dears
[12:09] <jpds> castle_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ModMono
[12:09] <Guest42738> Hi
[12:11] <Yerm> i use ubuntu 9.10 why i cant install application from software center
[12:11] <reinecath> @search Stiles
[12:11] <axwhy> hi all
[12:11] <command-line> Yo
[12:11] <TJ-> !eol | Yerm
[12:12] <axwhy> i got a message like apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/bin/mediascanner-service-2.0" whats this meaning?
[12:12] <command-line> What the heck ?
[12:12] <axwhy> its spamming my syslog
[12:12] <Yerm> so? i cant install apps from ubuntu software center ? :'(
[12:12] <command-line> Who would they post that message ?
[12:13] <HeisenbergsDog> Yerm, because its years-after-eol already
[12:13] <HeisenbergsDog> upgrade.
[12:13] <command-line> No mor support
[12:15] <TJ-> axwhy: 'apparmor' provides application containment; preventing it accessing directories and files it ought not. That is defined by a per-application profile. It seems that 'media-scanner' is trying to scan where it isn't allowed by the profile
[12:17] <axwhy> TJ-: oh i see, media scanner try to scan my ntfs directory. how to slove this?
[12:17] <chiefahol> what is media scanner?
[12:18] <TJ-> !info mediascanner2.0
[12:18] <axwhy> chiefahol: i think its like service for caching media content ie movie
[12:19] <axwhy> it safe to removing this package?
[12:19] <HeisenbergsDog> bad english, but yes
[12:20] <axwhy> thanks, brb im rebooting. sorry for my english, english not my native language :)
[12:22] <HeisenbergsDog> wb axwhy
[12:23] <command-line> Poor grammar
[12:23] <axwhy> thanks all
[12:24] <command-line> Learn correct grammar
[12:24] <axwhy> command-line: please teach me :)
[12:25] <HeisenbergsDog> command-line, grammar is overrated
[12:25] <chiefahol> english is hard, you speak very well axwhy :)
[12:25] <huwjr> i have ~70 wordpress sites on a shared hosting server - anyone have any ideas why on earth they’re so slow? time to first byte is SO random - sometimes 0.2 secs sometimes 10, 20 ,30seconds!
[12:26] <command-line> No your one hundred percent wrong.
[12:26] <HeisenbergsDog> how do you know, chiefahol
[12:26] <HeisenbergsDog> this is irc
[12:26] <chiefahol> Perhaps the other VMs are stressing the physical hardware!
[12:26] <chiefahol> how do i know? i failed highschool english, english is lame, numbers are honestly easier
[12:27] <command-line> And you display awful word usage.
[12:27] <HeisenbergsDog> "speaking" is something entirely different
[12:27] <command-line> So there fore you know poor grammar bro ski
[12:27] <chiefahol> speaking and writing and english seem related to me but OK
[12:28] <HeisenbergsDog> heh
[12:28] <OerHeks> guys, move the language talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, keep this channel free for support, thanks.
[12:28] <chiefahol> well, i'm glad my english is bothering you :D because i'm not trying to improve it lolol
[12:28] <chiefahol> oops
[12:28] <command-line> Yup your defending your lack of english.
[12:28] <chiefahol> adamantly
[12:29] <command-line> Sucks to be you sir.
[12:29] <HeisenbergsDog> good idea OerHeks
[12:29] <command-line> You should learn it.
[12:29] <chiefahol> hatred hurts the hater more than the hated
[12:29] <chiefahol> im fine :D
[12:29] <command-line> Im not hating.
[12:29] <OerHeks> !ot | command-line chiefahol
[12:30] <command-line> Not this bot again.
[12:30] <axwhy> btw, after removing media scanner, my laptop feel little bit faster.
[12:31] <command-line> This room. Always uses this bot
[12:31] <OerHeks> then stop it, command-line, you have been asked nicely.
[12:31] <huwjr> i have ~70 wordpress sites on a shared hosting server - anyone have any ideas why on earth they’re so slow? time to first byte is SO random - sometimes 0.2 secs sometimes 10, 20 ,30seconds!
[12:31] <command-line> Excuse me ?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> huwjr, ask wordpress support
[12:32] <cfhowlett> or your hosting company
[12:32] <command-line> Stay in your own lane
[12:32] <huwjr> what the fuck will wordpress know about ubuntu?
[12:32] <axwhy> !powerd
[12:32] <command-line> Language
[12:33] <cfhowlett> huwjr, 1. drop the profanity. 2. drop the attitude.
[12:33] <command-line> Yes
[12:33] <huwjr> telling me to RTFM isn’t helping
[12:33] <command-line> Thats nice
[12:34] <cfhowlett> your attitude isn't helping you. [12:34] <command-line> Iggy time
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !language
[12:34] <axwhy> one more question what is "powerd.service" ?
[12:35] <command-line> Its plugged in
[12:35] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/powerd
[12:36] <command-line> Kinda simple
[12:36] <axwhy> why the service failed to start?
[12:37] <command-line> Smh
[12:37] <command-line> Dont know dont care
[12:37] <OerHeks> axwhy, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-touch, as it is a phone service.
[12:39] <axwhy> OerHeks: hmm it strange.. im not using ubuntu-touch,im using 15.10 on laptop. why this service exists?
[12:39] <command-line> Noob
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | command-line, stop it.
[12:40] <command-line> Ok whater
[12:41] <command-line> Jokes not allowed says big brother. Boom smash bam !
[12:41] * cfhowlett adds another - tool - to /ignore
[12:47] <pikapi> yo I have to insert usb twice to have it mounted
[12:47] <pikapi> why so?
[12:47] <kvmcrash> hi, how and where report bug that Ubuntu 15 amd64 crashes in kvm very early when booting the install cd?
[12:48] <pikapi> now I got angry
[12:48] <pikapi> so I removed usb while it was being written to
[12:49] <kvmcrash> ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso - this image crashes when run as: qemu-system-x86_64 -hda ubuntu-sda.img -cdrom ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:52] <command-line> Report it
[12:54] <iggy_> hi, i'm new to ubuntu, can someone tell me if it's possible to run virtualmachine in fullscreen but in dedicated workspace? i would like to easily switch between the two and have the as closes feel to native win usage
[12:55] <axwhy> gtg, thanks all
[12:56] <ikonia> iggy_: should be doable, just maximise the spice/vnc/whatever window and do it one per workstation
[12:56] <ikonia> I guess it depends on what hypervisor you're using
[12:58] <iggy_> also I have some problems setting up graphic card in virtualbox, is it possible to set full passtrough or something to get more power to it? currently i'm limited to 256mb
[12:59] <ikonia> I don't believe so
[12:59] <ikonia> although to be fair, 256mb is a fair ammount of video pass through
[13:01] <_Avocado_> hi guys
[13:01] <_Avocado_> 15.04 or 14.04?
[13:01] <iggy_> ok, next question, i would also like to separate my workspaces as much as possible, for example to have a dedicated set of icons in launcher for each workspace, is that possible?
[13:01] <baizon> _Avocado_: 15.10
[13:02] <hateball> _Avocado_: 15.04 will be EOL soon, so 15.10 if anything. 14.04 if you prefer a more sta(b)le release
[13:03] <iggy_> my ideal setup would be [1] system use [2] personal/browsing/etc. [3] development [4] win7 in vbox
[13:04] <iggy_> whenever i switch workspace and click on some icon in launcher i get switched back to some other workspace
[13:04] <chiefahol> 15 is a short term testing distro isn't it?
[13:04] <chiefahol> i'd stick with 14
[13:04] <blackflow> Hello. Ubuntu 15.10 does not respect /etc/hosts. What can I do about it?
[13:05] <chiefahol> what do you mean by "does not respect"
[13:06] <blackflow> I mean I added a host entry like I've been adding to /etc/hosts for the past decade, and whatever I try to do with the hostname, I get NXDOMAIN.
[13:08] <blackflow> eh, nvm, resetting the network fixed it.
[13:14] <forme> Question: If I want to run Plex server on a headless Ubuntu server installed on an usb stick will I have performance issues with the plex server? The media is stored on a nas, so the locations are network based for read/write.
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !server | forme,
[13:15] <jackcom> i lost many data when i use terminal on ubuntu unlike mac terminal. then how can i do?
[13:15] <boichev2> Hello, I just added /dev/sdb1 to a logical volume by mistake. I wanted it to be only inside the volume group in order to make a quick snapshot. Will lvreduce back to the old size remove the newly added partition ?
[13:18] <motaka2> TJ-: Hello, do you have time today for the final decision ?
[13:18] <jackcom> i lost many data when i use terminal on ubuntu unlike mac terminal. then how can i do?
[13:19] <motaka2> ioria: Hello
[13:19] <jackcom> ubuntu terminal show little data comparing mac terminal. then how can i do?
[13:19] <motaka2> ioria: Sorry last night I was very sleepy
[13:19] <motaka2> Can you help me?
[13:20] <ioria> motaka2 actually i got some problems with my chat client... i cannot connect and i'm usigng ff to be here ....
[13:20] <cfhowlett> jackcom, what command
[13:21] <ioria> motaka2 did you do the upgrade and sit-upgrade ?
[13:21] <jackcom> for instance list
[13:21] <jackcom> list cfhowlett
[13:21] <jackcom> and i print somthing then they lost previous data.
[13:22] <cfhowlett> jackcom, list is not a linux command ....
[13:22] <jackcom> cfhowlett:
[13:22] <jackcom> ls
[13:22] <_Avocado_> I have an acer tablet/laptop, could I install ubuntu on it without driver issues?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> !touch | _Avocado_
[13:22] <jackcom> cfhowlett: ?
[13:22] <_Avocado_> ubottu, it´s not really a tablet though, it´s a laptop that you can detach from the keyboard
[13:23] <_Avocado_> cfhowlett *
[13:23] <chiefahol> _Avacado_ you should google it! :)
[13:23] <chiefahol> search the specific model number
[13:23] <_Avocado_> kk
[13:24] <chiefahol> good luck buddy
[13:34] <ikonia> win 1
[13:35] <orfraie_> domogik
[13:39] <Kartagis> is avconv giving me [buffer @ 0x8dfe020] Invalid pixel format string '-1' because my .mkv has got a video codec unknown to my system?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:54] <sruli> hi, would anyone know how to decrypt a file with pgp keeping the execute permissions?
[13:58] <Int__> hi there
[13:59] <Int__> anyone can tell mehow to connect a raspbi to a win actv drectory domain?
[14:01] <chiefahol> install smb? sorry i dont really know
[14:02] <chiefahol> samba i mean
[14:20] <motaka2> TJ-: :(
[14:26] <bishops> guys I really need help my ubuntu is doing something really annoying. from time to time when it wakes up from suspension (not complete shutdown) it fails to connect to the wireless. I sometimes need to restart the whole system for it to work. Any thoughts?
[14:27] <Myrtti> bishops: which version of Ubuntu?
[14:27] <bishops> Myrtti: 14.04
[14:28] <Myrtti> bishops: and all the updates?
[14:28] <motaka2> bishops: Yes, forget about ubuntu. It hurts everyone
[14:29] <bishops> Myrtti: what updates?
[14:29] <bishops> my system is up to date
[14:31] <bishops> Myrtti: it's been like this for a while
[14:31] <bishops> Myrtti: it's not a big deal but it's annoying. it starts looking for the connection and saying that I am offline or trying to connect and continues going offline. I just like to understand why it happens something must be wrong somewhere.
[14:33] <Myrtti> bishops: just asking because I had that with my 15.04 after a kernel update and it fixed itself after upgrading to 15.10. I'm not suggesting that you need to upgrade to 15.10 - quite contrary - but if you've got the latest kernel in use, you should probably be fine on that front
[14:34] <bishops> Myrtti: ok but i had that for a year now at least. what kernel do you have now?
[14:36] <TJ-> bishops: read the kern.log and syslog (in /var/log/ ). It may be the hardware isn't correctly re-initialised on resume from S3 sleep.
[14:38] <bishops> Myrtti: oh now i just got disconnect for example and no sleeping!
[14:40] <TJ-> bishops: read the kern.log and syslog (in /var/log/ ). It may be the hardware isn't correctly re-initialised on resume from S3 sleep.
[14:40] <bishops> TJ-: can you tell me the command line for this?
[14:41] <bishops> TJ-: fine i found it
[14:41] <TJ-> bishops: understand how to use the system pager first, reading "man less" ... then use "less /var/log/syslog" to check the network connectivity, and "less /var/log/kern.log" to check the hardware driver messages
[14:42] <bishops> TJ-: i used gedit. but not sure what to look for
[14:43] <bishops> TJ-: i just see a lot of network manager time out or failed type of message
[14:43] <lucas__> hello
[14:46] <lucas__> how i optimize ubuntu studio with kernel compilation?
[14:47] <hiwk> L3gacy: what?
[14:47] <hiwk> sorry
[14:47] <hiwk> lucas__: what?
[14:49] <TJ-> lucas__: what do you want to optimise?
[14:56] <lucas__> Tj: i wana try best speed to interface firewire
[14:56] <syntacticNaCl> hey guys, anything inherently bad with using a username that is all caps, ie USERNAME. I am getting an error saying that the username does not match the regular expression configured. i know i can use --force-badname on adduser but wanted to see if anyone foresees any issues
[15:03] <Pici> syntacticNaCl: should pose no real problems
[15:03] <Pici> er, no problems I mean.
[15:03] <motaka2> TJ-: Are you there?
[15:04] <syntacticNaCl> cool, thanks Pici
[15:06] <Edico> hi
[15:06] <lucas__> hello
[15:06] <EriC^^> hi
[15:07] <bluenemo> hi guys. I'm experiencing problems with my nfs-kernel-server on 14.04 whenever rsyslog restarts. I had nfsd and rpc on "all" debug mode, as you can see in line 28 http://paste.debian.net/hidden/209bdaa0/ rsyslog seems to stop for some reason (dont get why), then (of course) nfs doesnt log anymore. however the nfs is also interrupted to the clients. sometimes the server seems to get a kernel panic (no logs after that point in time and no IO repor
[15:07] <bluenemo> ted by the hypervisor)
[15:08] <Edico> I have something that makes me /home/user/.cache/upstart/gnome-session-Unity.log huge and I remain without space on my /home directory. Can anyone have an idea what process does that?
[15:08] <motaka2> What does error on line 12 means?
[15:09] <lucas__> i have a problems with b43 firmware
[15:09] <lucas__> with broadcom 4311
[15:09] <lucas__> wireless adapter
[15:10] <motaka2> What does error on line 12 means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13565695/
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | lucas__
[15:10] <bluenemo> shortly after the machine was rebooted
[15:10] <lucas__> thanks
[15:16] <jeroentbt> Hey, I just installed an ubuntu server and would like to connect it to an IPsec VPN. This server needs to be the client in this connection. Which application would allow me to set this up? (a walkthrough would be great too!)
[15:17] <jeroentbt> That would be ubuntu 14.04.3 btw
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> !server | jeroentbt
[15:19] <jeroentbt> woopsy off to #ubuntu-server
[15:22] <bishops> TJ-: sorry are you still there? my connection always goes now
[15:34] <Browser> Hello. I am trying to run my QT APP in full screen mode without a window manager but it is only using a portion of the screen using the command "xinit my_app". Do I have to configure any file?
[15:37] <TheMontyChrist> how to check compression ratio of file in btrfs?
[15:37] <mehmetcengiz> ls
[15:37] <lotuspsychje_> !btrfs | themattbeballin
[15:38] <Liv> my laptop fan is not seeming to turn on
[15:39] <Liv> I checked TLP and my fanspeed always reads as 0
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> Liv: when did it stop working?
[15:40] <Liv> just recently
[15:40] <Liv> I noticed it this morning
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> Liv: on ubuntu?
[15:40] <Liv> yes
[15:40] <Liv> the temp was reading 72
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> Liv: try vacuum cleaner on the fan air
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> Liv: might be dust blocking the fan perhaps?
[15:41] <Liv> the fan itself did not kick on
[15:42] <Liv> it's only when I get into gaming that my laptop heats up
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> Liv: the fan should blow, if you game or not
[15:43] <Liv> the temp is only 44 right now
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> Liv: its not good for a cpu to have a broken fan
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> Liv: try vacuum cleaner
[15:44] <Liv> I highly dought it's hardware
[15:44] <Dorfen`> Hello guys! I'm using ubuntu gnome, with the default Terminal app comming with gnome. I would like the title bar to show the hostname of the server I am ssh'ed into at the moment, but I can't seem to make it work. So far I've tried modifying .bashrc to include the {TITLEBAR} stuff with no luck, is it not possible in the default app? Or am I just severely retarded from sleep deprivation?
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> Liv: are you sure the fan stopped, and not blowing low?
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> Dorfen`: maybe the #ubuntu-gnome guys also know?
[15:45] <motaka2> What does error on line 12 means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13565695/
[15:46] <Liv> tlp is saying "fan speed (fan 1) = 0 [/min]
[15:46] <Liv> tlp is saying "fan speed (fan 1) = 0 [/min]"
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Liv: open the laptop back with the screws and check if its dirty?
[15:47] <k1l> motaka2: using any proxies?
[15:48] <motaka2> k1l: I dont know, but I think I had tor installed
[15:48] <k1l> so thats the issue
[15:48] <jamesmoryarti> buenas tardes
[15:48] <motaka2> k1l: I should uninstall it ?
[15:48] <Liv> If I could only get manuall fan control
[15:49] <Li> how to force ubuntu to use only english language when I'm typing thing in browser's address bar or longin window?
[15:49] <k1l> motaka2: to access google repo you cant use tor.
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> !es | james
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> Li system settings > language ... find 'apply system wide'
[15:50] <Li> there are situations where only english is needed and I'd like to have OS that is able to disceminate those from other usage scenarios
[15:50] <k1l> motaka2: so either dont use tor or dont use google repo
[15:50] <motaka2> k1l: I dont want to access google repo how can I remove it?
[15:50] <Dorfen`> Sorry, my interwebz just went down, so i missed the response (if any), please repost if my question had an answer :)
[15:50] <k1l> motaka2: remove the google repo in the software settings for updates
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> Dorfen`: the #ubuntu-gnome guys might know more of it?
[15:51] <motaka2> k1l: is that in ? sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.listsudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:51] <Dorfen`> lotuspsychje: I feel silly for not seeing that channel, thank you m8:)
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> Dorfen`: hope you find your answer, if not re-ask here later
[15:52] <k1l> motaka2: this is a dektop, right? just use the system settings -> software and updates -> 2nd tab
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Li so you want a 'per application' language setting?
[15:52] <Li> MonkeyDust: yes I found it but I don't know what would I want to use that for?
[15:52] <motaka2> k1l: I dont have access to desktop
[15:52] <Li> MonkeyDust: there two languages on this pc but I want to use only english on somethings
[15:52] <motaka2> TJ-: Where are you ?
[15:52] <Li> specific things like login for example
[15:53] <k1l> motaka2: erm, why did you isntall chrome then? o_O
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> Li maybe there's a setting in dconf-editor, use ctl-f to find one
[15:53] <motaka2> k1l: I lost access to my desktop so I want to upgrade using ssh but thats the error it gives
[15:53] <Li> right now I'm still able to switch between those two languages, which causes me to forget to switch back to english every time I want to login or use browser
[15:54] <k1l> motaka2: then remove the google repos from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:54] <motaka2> k1l: I am in iran and google doesnt offer services in iran
[15:56] <motaka2> k1l: thank you. I hate google
[15:56] <motaka2> :D
[15:56] <akik> motaka2: could it be that iran is rather blocking google services?
[15:56] <motaka2> k1l: Reading state information... Done
[15:56] <motaka2> E: The package linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic:none needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[15:57] <k1l> motaka2: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[15:57] <motaka2> akik: No, in this case google has blocked it's services. Iran also has blocked youtube on the other hand :D
[15:57] <motaka2> k1l:
[15:57] <motaka2> E: The package linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic:none needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[15:58] <Dorfen`> motaka2: I believe google has Tor access available, to you could tunnel through that just for the deinstall maybe?
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> maybe because of Iran's nuclear plans, the US/google blocks Iran
[15:58] <motaka2> Dorfen`: I dont know. I dont care, I just want my ubuntu desktop back
[15:59] <mama> hello
[15:59] <k1l> motaka2: sudo apt update
[15:59] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: Yes, for sure, if we install google chrome we have more chance to make a nuke, but with firefox we dont have chance
[15:59] <Li> MonkeyDust: vice versa, that is a good reason to never block Iran.
[16:00] <k1l> guys, lets not get too much into politics in here, we focus on ubuntu support.
[16:00] <Dorfen`> motaka2: I thought the question was about deinstalling chrome with blocked repo's? (Which would not be blocked by tor, i think.)
[16:00] <Guest83247> what is the discussion about?
[16:00] <k1l> Dorfen`: it is.
[16:00] <motaka2> Dorfen`: It is.
[16:01] <motaka2> k1l: finfished successfully
[16:01] <motaka2> finished*
[16:01] <Guest83247> finished?
[16:01] <k1l> k1l> motaka2: sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[16:01] <motaka2> k1l: What should I do next ?
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Guest83247
[16:01] <motaka2> ok
[16:01] <k1l> Guest83247: this channels topic is technical ubuntu support
[16:01] <Guest83247> oh
[16:02] <motaka2> k1l: E: The package linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic:none needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[16:02] <Guest83247> i am also new to linux
[16:02] <Guest83247> the interface is quite nice
[16:03] <Guest83247> does any one know any iso file burner program name
[16:03] <Guest83247> ?
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> !iso | Guest83247
[16:03] <Dorfen`> Still no one in here with some gnome savvy sauce to spare? I need hostname of the server im ssh'ed into displayed in titlebar. Would think that should be pretty easy..
[16:03] <motaka2> k1l: ?
[16:03] <Dorfen`> Guest83247: dd ca write a iso
[16:04] <Guest83247> i will try
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> Guest83247 brasero is popular
[16:04] <sruli> i've been trying to solve this for a week now, really need some help, i have 2 luks partitions 1 is lubuntu other is ubuntu server, they have separate boot partitions, i cant get grub to see them, grub-update will only recognise the one i am chrooted into
[16:05] <k1l> motaka2: i am thinking about a clever way to solve this and not breaking more packages
[16:05] <motaka2> k1l: thank you
[16:06] <k1l> motaka2: sudo apt-get -f install
[16:08] <motaka2> k1l: E: The package linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic:none needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[16:09] <k1l> hmm, the ":none" is what makes me wonder. usually that ":xxxx" is used to point to 64bit or 32bit but not none.
[16:09] <motaka2> k1l: :)
[16:09] <TJ-> motaka2: show us "dpkg --print-architecture"
[16:09] <k1l> what did you do to that system before that happend?
[16:10] <motaka2> TJ-: god bless you
[16:10] <TJ-> k1l: aborted 12.04>14.04 upgrade. It's been recommended to do a clean install. I'm told there are ~300 kernel images in /boot/, or were
[16:10] <motaka2> TJ-: Where were you
[16:10] <TJ-> motaka2: busy
[16:10] <motaka2> TJ-:
[16:10] <motaka2> donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ dpkg --print-architecture
[16:10] <motaka2> i386
[16:11] <k1l> oh. yeah from that point i think a clean 14.04 iso and a new install seems to be a good start
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> he doesnt want clean install, even allah cant help him
[16:12] <userpcuserpc> ciao c'è qualcuno?
[16:12] <Dorfen`> motaka2: btw, who is behind the blocking of google? Iran self? Or is it a ban from the states? :S
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> !it | userpcuserpc
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> Dorfen`: please dont feed offtopic
[16:13] <TJ-> k1l: also, the single hard disk came from another PC with different hardware. It was using Nvidia fakeRAID so the root file-system is (correctly) detected as being on a /dev/mapper/nvidia_xxxxx node, although this hardware has no fakeRAID controller. So, it has /dev/sda and /dev/mapper/nvidia_xxxxx both pointing to the same partitions.
[16:13] <motaka2> Dorfen`: Google has blocked some services like google code, book etc , iran has blocked youtube
[16:16] <ioria> motaka2, have you performed a full upgrade ? i mean, update, upgrade, dist-upgrade
[16:18] <motaka2> ioria: I was doing as you were telling me but those problem happened
[16:18] <ioria> motaka2, what problems ?
[16:19] <motaka2> ioria: is this what you want me to run ?
[16:19] <motaka2> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:19] <ioria> motaka2, yes....
[16:20] <TJ-> motaka2: if the dl.google.xxx server is causing problems, you'll need to remove it from the list of servers that apt uses
[16:20] <motaka2> ioria: E: The package linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic:none needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[16:20] <motaka2> TJ-: I removed that
[16:21] <motaka2> TJ-: The error above is after removing it
[16:21] <ioria> motaka2, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model
[16:22] <motaka2> ioria:
[16:22] <motaka2> model : 75
[16:22] <motaka2> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+
[16:22] <motaka2> model : 75
[16:22] <motaka2> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+
[16:22] <TJ-> motaka2: The system is looked very badly broken
[16:23] <motaka2> TJ-: You i have haardware problems?
[16:24] <TJ-> motaka2: no, I mean the operating system since your aborted 12.04 > 14.04 upgrade
[16:24] <kostas_> just reinstall the os
[16:24] <TJ-> motaka2: the release-upgrade failed, leaving some key config files in an in-between state
[16:24] <motaka2> TJ-: you suggest me to install a clean OS?
[16:25] <k1l> motaka2: i think your system is in a very bad state and making it work again is more work then macking backup of the important data, load a new 14.04.iso and make a new install
[16:25] <TJ-> motaka2: it'll save you hours, or days! As I and others said on Saturday, if the dist-upgrade doesn't work then you'll need to back-up your user data (all users home directories), configuration files, and any manually-installed software
[16:25] <motaka2> k1l: If TJ- says I will do that, since I dont have any utilty to back up
[16:26] <ioria> motaka2, if you run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic ?
[16:26] <k1l> ioria: the ":none" makes me wonder at the end. seems it broke the architecture thing in the package manager
[16:26] <motaka2> ioria:
[16:26] <motaka2> E: The package linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic:none needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[16:26] <kostas_> motaka2: just use a live cd and cp your files on an external hdd or on your network
[16:26] <TJ-> motaka2: you should be able to ZIP those files up - if they don't require too much space - and move that ZIP file to your Windows Vista PC for safe-keeping
[16:27] <ioria> k1l i see... really don't know that kind of error
[16:27] <stmbgr> Hello. I can't connect to my hidden wifi network with my laptop wifi card.
[16:28] <ioria> motaka2, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic
[16:28] <stmbgr> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.3 x64 and the adapter is Broadcom BCM43142.
[16:29] <motaka2> ioria:
[16:29] <motaka2> dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
[16:29] <motaka2> Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[16:29] <motaka2> reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[16:29] <motaka2> (Reading database ...
[16:29] <motaka2> dpkg: warning: files list file for package `linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[16:29] <motaka2> (Reading database ... 938573 files and directories currently installed.)
[16:30] <teward> motaka2: don't paste here
[16:30] <teward> use a pastebin
[16:30] <niklas_> hey
[16:30] <niklas_> hey everyone
[16:30] <teward> motaka2: though, as has been stated, your system is in a *really* broken state. The best solution for you is to boot to a LiveCD/LiveUSB and back up data as TJ stated, ZIP it up, and put it on the Vista pc temporarily, then reinstall Ubuntu
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> hey niklas_ , this is the ubuntu support channel
[16:31] <motaka2> TJ-: how can I move data from ubuntu to Vista ?
[16:32] <motaka2> I hate linux, never this happened to me on windows
[16:33] <ioria> motaka2, we can try to remove thot package and try a manual install ....
[16:33] <k1l> ever stopped a windows upgrade in tha half? :X
[16:33] <kostas_> ioria: I did once!!! And I left windows once and for all ;-)
[16:34] <nicomachus> motaka2: I've had this happen when I did what k1l said: stoped a windows upgrade midway through.
[16:34] <motaka2> ioria: so lets try, what should I do ?
[16:34] <ioria> kostas_, you mean you broke your windows ?
[16:34] <kostas_> ioria: oh, yeah :-P
[16:34] <ioria> bad news... then
[16:35] <kostas_> ioria: not at all, lol! I never looked back on Windows... benn on ubuntu and debian only for 10 years
[16:35] <ioria> ok
[16:36] <motaka2> kostas_: windows has changed since u left it
[16:37] <kostas_> motaka2: in what ways? is it stable? does it recognize all my hardware without drivers? does it update ALL the software installed? is it free to use?
[16:37] <ioria> kostas_, a manual install it's not advisable anyway ...
[16:37] <BluesKaj> motaka2, vista isn't MS's best OS ...W7 is probly they're best so far
[16:37] <motaka2> ioria: What should I do ?
[16:37] <ioria> kostas_, but this is the link http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic/download
[16:38] <ioria> sorry
[16:38] <BluesKaj> their best even
[16:38] <ioria> motaka2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic/download
[16:38] <kostas_> ioria: no problem ;-) I thought this was for mokata 2
[16:38] <motaka2> ioria: I dont know what to do with that link
[16:38] <ioria> yep
[16:39] <ioria> motaka2, you download the pacvkage and sudo dpkg -i package
[16:39] <TJ-> motaka2: can you "pastebinit /var/lib/dpkg/arch"
[16:39] <ioria> motaka2, but wait ....
[16:39] <TJ-> ioria: that package is amd64; the host is i386 :)
[16:40] <motaka2> TJ-: Unable to read from: /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[16:40] <nicomachus> oh man...
[16:40] <TJ-> motaka2: right, so that really proves that system is screwed up! That is a core file for the package managers
[16:40] <ioria> TJ- oh really ? he got 64 bit cpu ...
[16:40] <motaka2> TJ-: Then fuck it I will install a fresh one without backupping
[16:40] <TJ-> ioria: host arch is i386 though
[16:40] <Voziv> Is there a way to see when a package was last updated on?
[16:41] <motaka2> i HATE linux
[16:41] <ioria> TJ- ok
[16:41] <TJ-> motaka2: what does "pastebinit <( ls -la /var/lib/dpkg/arch )" report?
[16:41] <ioria> motaka2, so, in case the link is this http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic/download
[16:41] <motaka2> TJ-: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ pastebinit <( ls -la /var/lib/dpkg/arch )
[16:41] <motaka2> ls: cannot access /var/lib/dpkg/arch: No such file or directory
[16:41] <motaka2> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> motaka2 what was your initial issue?
[16:42] <TJ-> motaka2: right, so the file is missing entirely
[16:42] <motaka2> ioria: I dont know what to do with that
[16:42] <motaka2> TJ-: so a clean install ?
[16:42] <TJ-> motaka2: Let's see if we can fix that: "echo i386 | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/arch"
[16:42] <kostas_> motaka2: nice buddy, you're on IRC which is not for the average Jo and you're telling to this community you hate Linux... nice trolling man!
[16:42] <motaka2> TJ-:
[16:42] <motaka2> donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ echo i386 | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[16:42] <motaka2> i386
[16:43] <ioria> TJ- nice shoot !
[16:43] <TJ-> motaka2: ok, that file now exists. Now try "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-68-generic "
[16:43] <motaka2> kostas_: Sorry, I am really done with this
[16:44] <kostas_> ok, let's continue with our lives then ;-)
[16:44] <Dat> clean install for me wasn't so bad everything is back to normal even got all my old settings and etc back to
[16:44] * Dat pets his external drive
[16:45] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13578864/
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Dat, or a separate partition for / and /home
[16:45] <TJ-> motaka2: So more breakage "debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: No such file or directory"
[16:46] <motaka2> TJ-: so what should I do ?
[16:46] <TJ-> motaka2: that is a core file from the apt-utils package.
[16:46] <motaka2> TJ-: How do you know so much ?
[16:47] <TJ-> motaka2: Because I investigate
[16:47] <motaka2> TJ-: cool
[16:47] <motaka2> TJ-: If you say a clean install I will do that
[16:47] <TJ-> motaka2: "pastebinit <( dpkg -l apt*; dpkg -L apt-utils; ls -al /usr/bin/apt* )"
[16:48] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13578932/
[16:48] <TJ-> motaka2: I'm intrigued as to how that system got into this state, so I'll keep digging for a little while :D
[16:49] <motaka2> TJ-: :D
[16:49] <TJ-> motaka2: so we earlier saw "debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: No such file or directory" but we find "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 22264 Aug 5 23:38 /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates" ... so that makes me wonder if the system PATH setting has been broken
[16:50] <TJ-> motaka2: "pastebinit <( sudo which apt-extracttemplates; /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates --help )"
[16:52] <motaka2> TJ-: It didnt give me a link
[16:53] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13579053/
[16:53] <bluenemo> I'm getting this message in /var/log/syslog: nfs-master rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.4.4" x-pid="939" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] exiting on signal 15 and then my system is dead. any ideas?
[16:54] <sruli> how to i start gnome-disk-utility with sudo? (Disks) sudo gnome-disk-utility command not found
[16:54] <bluenemo> it dies about two minutes later. my belly feeling tells me that stuff trying to log stuff fills up buffers and then stuff runs out of memory
[16:57] <yonatankoren> If I have a process running in the background, namely tmux, can do anything to see it again in the foreground?
[16:57] <yonatankoren> And tmux is running some processes
[16:57] <fyf> jobs
[16:57] <fyf> fg
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> yonatankoren 'jobs' to see what's running ... 'fg' to bring it back
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> fyf was faster
[16:58] <yonatankoren> fyf, MonkeyD thank you
[16:58] <motaka2> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13579053/
[17:00] <motaka2> ?
[17:01] <TJ-> motaka2: checking some things about that
[17:03] <TJ-> motaka2: right, that apttemplates is from the precise-updates repository. I wonder if 'dpkg' and/or 'debconf' have been updated to trusty.
[17:04] <motaka2> TJ-: SO what should I do ?
[17:05] <ioria> motaka2, apt-cache policy debconf | grep Installed
[17:05] <zykotick9> yonatankoren: if you are using tmux, then "tmux ls" will list the running sessions. "tmux att" will return you to it, if only one.
[17:05] <motaka2> ioria: Installed: 1.5.42ubuntu1
[17:06] <yonatankoren> zykotic thank you!
[17:06] <ioria> motaka2, precise too
[17:07] <ioria> motaka2, very failed upgrade .... maybe a new sources.list and update upgrade dist-upgrade
[17:09] <motaka2> ioria: what do you suggest ?
[17:10] <motaka2> TJ-: Should I nstall a new version ?
[17:10] <ioria> motaka2, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[17:11] <motaka2> ioria: done
[17:11] <TJ-> motaka2: I'm wondering if *any* 14.04 packages got installed. We know the apt sources.list got changed, but maybe all other packages remained on 12.04
[17:11] <motaka2> TJ-: maybe. What do you suggest ?
[17:12] <ioria> motaka2, sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:12] <motaka2> ioria: done
[17:12] <ioria> motaka2, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and paste this in it http://paste.ubuntu.com/13579409/
[17:14] <motaka2> ioria: how to save in nano ?
[17:14] <ioria> motaka2, ctrl+o and ctrl+x
[17:14] <TJ-> motaka2: might be best to not use the 'us' archives though; use your local ones, check the original (now backed up) file for that
[17:15] <motaka2> ioria: what do you mean?
[17:15] <faheemazizm> Hi macbook air 2013 mid yeqar model, issues installing broadcom drivers
[17:15] <ioria> motaka2, replace us with ir
[17:15] <TJ-> motaka2: show us "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list.bak"
[17:15] <kostas_> faheemazizm: ubuntu version?
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> faheemazizm cat /etc/issue
[17:16] <faheemazizm> kostas_, 14.04.3
[17:16] <faheemazizm> Here's the output for rfkill list
[17:16] <faheemazizm> meh
[17:16] <ioria> motaka2, to save in nano cotrol + o , or control +x and then yes
[17:16] <faheemazizm> kostas_, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:16] <faheemazizm> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:17] <ioria> TJ- i think i was using us ...
[17:17] <ioria> *he
[17:17] <TJ-> ioria: I've lost the pastebins I collected on this from Saturday, so not sure now
[17:17] <motaka2> ioria: done
[17:17] <faheemazizm> MonkeyDust, kostas_ issue is that when installing bcmwl kernel asks for 'Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Beta amd64 (20150805)'
[17:17] <faheemazizm> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
[17:17] <faheemazizm>
[17:17] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/apt7sources.list
[17:17] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:18] <motaka2> TJ-: nothing is done
[17:18] <motaka2> ioria: the secone?
[17:18] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:19] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13579607/
[17:19] <ioria> motaka2, sudo apt-get update
[17:19] <TJ-> motaka2: 'nothing is done' suggests the back-up command ioria gave you didn't get done.
[17:20] <ioria> omg
[17:20] <TJ-> ioria: don't we want the sources.list now be pointing to 12.04, not 14.04?
[17:20] <motaka2> TJ-: I meant the request was not complete when I hit enter the new line started with >
[17:20] <ioria> TJ- no upgrade then ?
[17:20] <TJ-> motaka2: oh!! that means you failed to close a quotation mark or similar
[17:20] <TJ-> ioria: Well, the versions of apt/apt-utils at least are still 12.04
[17:21] <ioria> motaka2, how is going with apt-get update ?
[17:21] <codephobic> hi
[17:21] <TJ-> ioria: I was looking for a sure fire way t check the *excutables* of debconf/dpkg are also 12.04 - if that is the case we can probably just reset sources.list to precise
[17:21] <Moxel> hi
[17:21] <motaka2> TJ-: wait ...
[17:21] <manornk> I create bash script that uses SUDO, and i want that it automaticlly after terminal requests password gives password to it.. how can i do this?
[17:21] <ioria> TJ- oh, yeah
[17:22] <TJ-> ioria: it is possible the release-upgrade aborted immediately after changing the sources.list
[17:22] <TJ-> motaka2: can you hold on for a few moments please?
[17:22] <ioria> TJ- ok
[17:23] <TJ-> motaka2: if you missed a quotation mark (causing the > prompt on a new line) just type another matching quotation mark and press Enter
[17:23] <zykotick9> manornk: under normal circumstances, i'd just run the script with sudo - rather then trying to embed it... YMMV. Good luck.
[17:23] <TJ-> ioria: I'm thinking the sources.list got changed but apt failed due to what we saw earlier - that dl.google.com entry
[17:23] <codephobic> I have an old version of nodejs (v0.12) installed via github, on my ubuntu server. I am looking to upgrade to v5.1, but I was wondering if just downloading the tar.gz and running through configure and make and make install, would cause issues because of this older version?
[17:23] <manornk> zykotick9: thanks, i didn't think of it :D
[17:24] <TJ-> motaka2: can you do "pastebinit <( ls -latr /etc/apt/ )" please
[17:24] <ioria> TJ- usually that it's not a problem ... it'a about chrome
[17:24] <codephobic> is there a more advisable method to installing the latest nodejs, say perhaps some git pull request or something?
[17:24] <R13ose> I am trying to create a bootable usb key that allows me to run Damn Small Linux but each time I try, this says "Missing Operating System." How do I fix this?
[17:25] <TJ-> ioria: right, something else happened to delete dpkg's architecture file, and the failure of debconf to find apt-extracttemplates
[17:26] <TJ-> ioria: either those packages got a partial upgrade and then it failed, or we have a complete precise system with no trusty intermingled, but some core config files got broken somehow
[17:26] <ioria> TJ- yep
[17:26] <TJ-> ioria: if the release-upgrade broke the file listing for /etc/apt/ might show the original back-up and timestamps to clue us in a bit nore
[17:27] <ioria> TJ- i hope so...
[17:27] <TJ-> ioria: I'm wondering how /var/lib/dpkg/arch got deleted though; that is either failing disk (no sign of that in the kernel logs) or something misbehaved badly.
[17:28] <ioria> TJ- yes, weird ...
[17:31] <faheemazizm> Hi macbook air 2013 mid year model, issues installing broadcom drivers
[17:31] <faheemazizm> Hi macbook air 2013 mid year model, issues installing broadcom drivers, Ubuntu 14.04.3
[17:32] <faheemazizm> :(
[17:33] <TJ-> motaka2: ioria that call to apt-extracttemplates is in /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure
[17:34] <TJ-> Perl script: ... if (system("apt-extracttemplates", @collect) != 0) { print STDERR sprintf("debconf: ".gettext("apt-extracttemplates failed: %s")."\n",$!);
[17:34] <faheemazizm> Hi macbook air 2013 mid year model, issues installing broadcom drivers, Ubuntu 14.04.3
[17:35] <teward> faheemazizm: that's not vague at all, what've you tried so far, what errors do you get, etc.
[17:35] <faheemazizm> ok just got it
[17:35] <TJ-> so, it is relying on a root PATH that has /usr/sbin/ - so a bad /etc/environment could cause that
[17:35] <faheemazizm> teward, solved
[17:36] <TJ-> motaka2: can you "pastebinit /etc/environment"
[17:38] <TJ-> motaka2: the other possibility is that /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates is not executable
[17:39] <ioria> motaka2, still there ?
[17:40] <jwash> hi everyone, i get ECONNREFUSED for vsftpd outside my local network, and it works fine on the internal network. Can someone help me troubleshoot?
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> jwash yes freenode is under attack
[17:40] <ioria> i knew that...
[17:41] <crised> Is it possible to use dd to burn windows 10 iso to usb in ubuntu 15.10?
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> jwash oh, not only irc?
[17:41] <jwash> MonkeyDust: ??? vsftpd
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> jwash i was too fast, apologies
[17:41] <jwash> :)
[17:41] <jwash> np
[17:42] <crised> I mean, I did it but my pc does not boot from usb drive
[17:42] <teward> jwash: CONNREFUSED outside the network sounds like there's NAT or a router between the outside and the system
[17:42] <teward> jwash: so you'd need to make sure the port forwards are done correctly (aka NAT rules)
[17:42] <jwash> other services route fine
[17:42] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: ioria testing here, if /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates is NOT executable debconf reports "debconf: Delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed." ... so it isn't that, and as motaka2 system gets past that check it also means the file should execute - which points to some failure maybe a segfault
[17:42] <jwash> that's what's weird
[17:43] <ioria> TJ- ok, but the guy fainted :þ
[17:43] <TJ-> ioria: carted off by the Windows police :)
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> he started attacking freenode
[17:43] <ioria> TJ- probably
[17:44] <ioria> i had to change the server ip, to connect
[17:44] <TJ-> possibly the DDoS lost the connection, anyone seen netsplits?
[17:44] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: right... it's all IRC's fault for complete strangers giving random instructions :)
[17:44] <Li> is there a way to make gedit keep a copy of unsaved documents to recover after accidental shutdown?
[17:45] <TJ-> Li: It may already do that - look for files of the same name with a ~ suffix
[17:45] <TJ-> Li: as in somefile.txt and somefile.txt~
[17:45] <TJ-> Li: there used to be a setting to enable back-ups I recall, but not used it ages so not sure what the default behaviour is now
[17:51] <Li> TJ-: the backup option is there in the preferences tab works fine with files that I've previous saved copy from
[17:51] <Li> but if I have an unsaved document I can't find it after reboot
[17:52] <Li> I tried to sudo find . -iname "Untiteled Document*" -type f
[17:52] <Li> nothing there!
[17:54] <TJ-> motaka2: ioria I've been reading the apt-extracttemplates source; unhelfully if collects up all errors until the end and just dumps the messages so not useful. We'd need to run the apt-get install under control of 'strace -f ...' to find out what more is broken. From the source I suspect the apt pkg cache, which would be easy to fix.
[17:56] <ioria> TJ- could work
[17:56] <motaka2> ioria: TJ- sorry boss is on the phone
[17:56] <ioria> TJ- he's back
[18:05] <TJ-> motaka2: I have to leave now, but hopefully you can follow-up on what I've written. I *think* you should return /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the 12.04 precise archives, delete all the existing cached apt package info under /var/cache/apt/ (someone can tell you the specifics of what and how to do that) and then do "sudo apt-get update" to fetch the precise package lists in.
[18:06] <TJ-> motaka2: I *suspect* the situation is that the tools are 12.04, trying to read data that has come from 14.04 which those tools don't understand, and thus 'apt-extracttemplates' is failing because it doesn't understand the data format.
[18:06] <ioria> TJ- so reverse all to 12.04 ?
[18:07] <boxmein> can I do something to the unity panel so wine tray icons would appear on it?
[18:13] <motaka2> ioria: sorry I was away
[18:13] <motaka2> ioria: sudo apt-get update done successfully
[18:13] <motaka2> what is next ?
[18:14] <ioria> motaka2, well, we have a problem on how to proceed
[18:14] <ioria> motaka2, maybe come back to 12.04 or trying a new upgrade to 14
[18:14] <motaka2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580650/
[18:15] <ioria> motaka2, i gave you another file, btw
[18:15] <motaka2> TJ-:
[18:15] <motaka2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580672/
[18:17] <motaka3> ioria: Are you there ?
[18:18] <ioria> motaka3, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:18] <motaka3> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580727/
[18:19] <ioria> motaka3, sudo apt-get update
[18:19] <motaka3> ioria: but I did that already
[18:19] <ioria> motaka3, yep, but you posted another sources.list that made me wonder ...
[18:20] <motaka3> ioria: finished
[18:20] <ioria> motaka3, without errors ?
[18:20] <motaka3> ioria: yes
[18:21] <motaka3> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580765/
[18:21] <ioria> motaka3, ok , so, the point is: we don't know how many packages has been upgraded to 14.04 ....
[18:21] <ioria> motaka3, and how many are still 12.04
[18:21] <kazdax> is ubuntu a good way to learn linux ?
[18:21] <motaka3> ioria: dist-upgrade wont take them all to 14.04 ?
[18:22] <kazdax> i dont really know what i want to do with linux
[18:22] <kazdax> but i just want to start somewhere..setting up , maybe doing projects i like
[18:22] <kazdax> like my own webserver
[18:22] <kazdax> or ftp server
[18:22] <motaka3> kazdax: Yes it is good for newbies
[18:22] <kazdax> maybe even a database server and do some programming with it
[18:22] <ioria> motaka3, is what i think .... but it's not the regular way to do a release-upgrade
[18:22] <kazdax> I have had a few problems previously with ubuntu tho
[18:22] <kazdax> like for example one was not being able to watch youtuve
[18:22] <kazdax> youtube
[18:23] <kazdax> i think the solution for that was to enable hmtl 5 or download chrome
[18:23] <motaka3> ioria: if you say I will do it. At mot I will lose data right ?
[18:23] <kazdax> then another thing was internet speed was slower on ubuntu
[18:23] <rypervenche> kazdax: Any distro will be a good starting distro, so long as it works for you. Later on if you want to change distros, as people do, you can.
[18:23] <kazdax> that i was not able to fix .. I had the ubuntu installed on my machine on the natuve hardware
[18:23] <kazdax> right but what would you guys firstly use a linux for
[18:23] <kazdax> or have a project for a linux to learn
[18:24] <kazdax> something to gear you towards ..you know like a aim to reach when learning it
[18:24] <ioria> motaka3, we cannot downgrade ....
[18:24] <kazdax> because i bet its a wide subject ..you can do alot on it
[18:24] <motaka3> ioria: so the only way is sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:24] <motaka3> ?
[18:24] <motaka3> ioria: or you wait for TJ- point of view?
[18:24] <ioria> motaka3, the second
[18:25] <motaka3> ioria: :( ok I will wait
[18:25] <TJ-> motaka3: ok, the file listing confirms there's a backup from before the upgrade "3043 Nov 21 21:10 sources.list.distUpgrade"
[18:25] <motaka3> TJ-: :)
[18:26] <TJ-> motaka3: I'm in-and-out, preparing a meal here, so bear with me. "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade"
[18:26] <motaka3> TJ-: is that a good news?
[18:26] <motaka3> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580876/
[18:27] <TJ-> motaka3: I think we should try switching back to the 12.04 precise archive lists.
[18:27] <motaka3> TJ-: if you say
[18:27] <wintermoon> guys, could anyone help me fix my MBR???
[18:28] <wintermoon> check this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580895/
[18:28] <motaka3> TJ-: How?
[18:29] <ioria> motaka3, reverse the files in /etc/apt .... sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.bak /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:29] <motaka3> ioria: so sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.bak /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:29] <ioria> motaka3, yes
[18:29] <TJ-> motaka3: "sed '/^deb cdrom/ d' /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list "
[18:30] <motaka3> ioria: done
[18:30] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: State the issue . See what we can do .
[18:30] <motaka3> TJ-: done
[18:31] <TJ-> motaka3: "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -type f -delete"
[18:32] <TJ-> motaka3: "sudo apt-get clean"
[18:32] <wintermoon> @Bashing-om I had two disk devices with Windoze on each, I had a problem where both Win booters mixed and sometimes rebooted at start after selecting on the boot screen
[18:32] <TJ-> motaka3: "sudo apt-get update" ... that should fetch all the Precise 12.04 package lists cleanly
[18:32] <wintermoon> I added now a new drive with ubuntu but grub didn't fix the problem
[18:32] <sokoll> Can someone here help me with an ubuntu apache question? I can't get help on #httpd because I have been unfairly muted for requesting that someone else help me rather than the person who was 'helping' me
[18:34] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: No problem booting 'buntu ? When the boot priority is set to the 2nd hard drive .
[18:34] <paulbx> sokoll, jump in, ask your question, if somebody can help they will
[18:34] <sokoll> paulbx: ok, thanks. was just making it clear I can't ask on #httpd before asking.
[18:34] <motaka3> TJ-: seems busy, by the way I am doing all this in putty
[18:34] <wintermoon> it didn't boot whatsoever after installing, same Windows booting screen as before
[18:34] <TJ-> motaka3: that's fine :)
[18:35] <motaka3> TJ-: I love linux, it is so customizable. I am learning ...
[18:35] <TJ-> motaka3: as long as the package system thinks the system should be on 12.04, and now it knows the i386 architecture again, we should be able, over that SSH link, to fix (repace with 12.04) any 14.04 Trusty packages that got on there
[18:35] <wintermoon> I've already pasted my drives list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13580895/
[18:35] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Then we are looking at installing grub ( 'buntu boot loader ) to that 2nd hard drive ?
[18:36] <TJ-> motaka3: As I said, I'm cooking here so there may be extended delays from me
[18:36] <motaka3> TJ-: does linux care how many users working on it at the same time?
[18:36] <wintermoon> would that get rid of the Windows boot as well???
[18:36] <motaka3> TJ-: No problem, if you had time tell us what you were cooking
[18:37] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: NO, will not effect the Windows on the other 2 drives . Reconfirm however that you are booting that 2md hard drive and ubuntu does not boot .
[18:38] <TJ-> motaka3: no it doesn't care, as long as it has resources to cope
[18:39] <TJ-> motaka3: tell me if/when that "apt-get update" has completed
[18:39] <wintermoon> apparently there's no boot from the 2nd drive (sdb) because I only see the Windows boot screen when starting the PC
[18:40] <wintermoon> I guess the boot is messed between sda and sdc drives
[18:40] <motaka3> TJ-: it is finished now
[18:40] <wintermoon> sorry I can't be clear enough, that doesn't help much
[18:40] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Please use nick to address us .. this is a busy channel and your responses can/will be missed . // OK, you have a liveDVD(USB) on hand to use to install grub to that 2nd hard drive ?
[18:41] <wintermoon> @Bashing-om yes I'm actually on ubuntu if that helps
[18:44] <wintermoon> @Bashing-om I just installed ubuntu and thought Grub would get rid of it, but it seems it didn't install
[18:45] <wintermoon> @Bashing-om Or, probably got installed but the Windows' boot takes place first somehow
[18:45] <motaka3> TJ-: It is finished
[18:46] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Great .. we install grub to the 2nd hard drive. ' sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sdb ; sudo umount /mnt ' . Reboot into the install - boot priority set to the 2nd hard drive ) and once booted into ubuntu run ' sudo update-grub ' to pick up and chainload Windows to it's boot menu .
[18:47] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: You are aware that you have a unorthodox install of ubuntu on the 2nd hard drive ?
[18:47] <wintermoon> @Bashing-om no I'm not, what does that mean?
[18:48] <TJ-> motaka3: OK, now "pastebinit <( dpkg -l | grep '^[iuh]' )"
[18:48] <motaka3> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13581279/
[18:49] <wintermoon> Bashing-om you mean sdb1?
[18:49] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Normally we expect the OS partition to be the 1st partition on the hard drive .. and then an extended partiton and within the extended partiton is the swap partition.
[18:50] <gswallow> Am I the first person to report that ca-certificates-java (20130815ubuntu1) hangs on install today?
[18:50] <wintermoon> Bashing-om I see, so would you recommend reinstalling again?
[18:51] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Nawww ... 'buntu is flexable .. let's see what we can do as is . run the commands and we see the result .
[18:52] <kostkon> !info ca-certificates-java trusty
[18:52] <wintermoon> Bashing-om OK I'll do and will let you know
[18:52] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: K; I be away for a short time .. be back soonest .
[18:53] <motaka3> TJ-: ?
[18:57] <TJ-> motaka3: thanks. I'm going to eat now, then write a script to scan that output to identify any non-precise packages, so they can be fixed. I'll be about 45 minutes.
[18:58] <motaka3> TJ-: Thanks for your great help
[18:58] <motaka3> I will wait
[18:58] <TJ-> see you soon
[19:00] <wintermoon> Bashing-om didn't work :( still booting through Win's
[19:02] <AngryOx80> hi guys
[19:02] <AngryOx80> how i can start GNU g++? im new in ubuntu ^^
[19:02] <AngryOx80> its already installed
[19:04] <thorie> will adding a new partition using cfdisk on unallocated space cause my existing partitions to be destroyed?
[19:05] <AngryOx80> how i can start GNU c++ at the terminal?
[19:05] <tomtomdrum> I had issues with my Mint install and I have an encrypted home folder which i was able to recover. I want to backup this folder so I can save my files so I can do a clean install.
[19:05] <tomtomdrum> I am running mint off a liveusb and have the encrypted folder sitting in /tmp/ecryptfs.GGAmoe4d
[19:05] <tomtomdrum> I open the folder as root and can see everything but when I try to copy it, it won't allow me as I dont have permission.
[19:05] <tomtomdrum> When I check permissions under properties it reads 1000
[19:05] <tomtomdrum> How can I change it so i'm able to transfer it to my external hd?
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> !mint | tomtomdrum
[19:06] <tomtomdrum> thanks
[19:07] <AngryOx80> guys need to know how to open a programm in ubuntu with the terminal
[19:07] <AngryOx80> just need the Command
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> AngryOx80: type the name of the package in terminal to launch
[19:09] <tomtomdrum> how do i go about connecting to irc.spotchat.org new to this. Im using mIRC
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> tomtomdrum: type /join #mirc and ask there mate
[19:12] <sokoll> Ok, apologies for the delay. I'm trying to configure a this module https://confluence.atlassian.com/doc/configuring-apache-to-cache-static-content-via-mod_disk_cache-295305963.html. But, there is no /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf directory/file on Ubuntu. This page gives details on the Apache config files in ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/httpd.html, but I'm just not quite clear on which file I need to edit
[19:12] <sokoll> in order to load the cache mod.
[19:13] <sokoll> I appreciate this isn't the perfect channel to ask, so apologies in advance.
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> sokoll: maybe the #httpd guys can help, or #ubuntu-server?
[19:16] <sokoll> I have been muted in the #httpd channel :( thumbs muted me because I asked for help from someone other than him as he was being very rude and condescending.
[19:16] <wintermoon> hi :) can anyone help with multi-booting issues?
[19:16] <sokoll> lotuspsychje: I'll try ubuntu-server
[19:16] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Makes no sense that with grub installed to the 2nd hard drive, and bios set to boot the 2nd hard drive as the 1st boot prioriry that Windows can possibly boot . What happens exactly when you attempt to boot from that 2nd hard drive ?
[19:17] <wintermoon> hey
[19:18] <wintermoon> Bashing-om I've already installed Grub with the steps you provided, but I see no Grub booting options, same Windows as before
[19:18] <wintermoon> I'm booting ubuntu through a Grub CD
[19:18] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: And I ask you again . Is that 2nd hard drive set in bios as the 1st boot priority ?
[19:19] <wintermoon> Bashing-om my bad
[19:19] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: :)
[19:21] <wintermoon> Bashing-om I'll check it out and brb
[19:25] <heber> hi
[19:26] <plissonneau> hello
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> plissonneau: welcome
[19:26] <wintermoon> Bashing-om hey, it boots now but show no options, only "Grub>"
[19:28] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: We try and boot the system from that grub > prompt .
[19:30] <wintermoon> Bashing-om I thought the booting would be more intuitive :D
[19:32] <transhuman> does ubuntu still use crontab?
[19:32] <Pici> transhuman: sure
[19:32] <transhuman> getting crontab.service failed to load no such file or directory
[19:32] <Pici> transhuman: what are you doing to get that message?
[19:33] <transhuman> sudo service crontab restart
[19:33] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: At that grub > prompt; terminal commands ' set prefix=(hd1,msdos2)/boot/grub ; set root=(hd1,msdos2) ; insmod linux ; linux (hd1,msdos2)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb2 ro ; initrd (hd1,msdos2)/initrd.img ; boot ' . See if now you boot ?? // And yes this should not be needed ! You should boot to the grub boot menu and be able to select in that menu what operating ystem you want to boot .
[19:33] <FotoMonello> hi
[19:33] <transhuman> I have a couple wget s that are supposed to download dyndns
[19:33] <transhuman> updates
[19:34] <transhuman> sorry upload
[19:34] <goddard> is there an application permissions/security layer?
[19:34] <wintermoon> Bashing-om thanks bashing, I'll check and brb
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> goddard: whats your end goal?
[19:34] <Pici> transhuman: the service is just called cron, not crontab.
[19:34] <FotoMonello> Can put a link to my video? Tnk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az7xtjAf41c
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> !ot | FotoMonello
[19:35] <Pici> FotoMonello: no, this channel is for Ubuntu Support only.
[19:35] <FotoMonello> into crontab there are the list
[19:35] <transhuman> dah how obvious thanks, I thought it had something to do with the wget line..your help is appreciated
[19:35] <FotoMonello> sorry lotuspsychje
[19:37] <transhuman> I thought I had read somewhere they were going to start offering web certificates for free in order to force everyone over to https is that the case?
[19:37] <transhuman> not sure who was going to do it...cant seem to find anything further on it that was a couple years ago
[19:38] <sandGorgon> hey guys... is there a snappy based ISO that I can try out and play with ? I'm looking at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso but dont know if it is intended with dpkg or snappy
[19:38] <hack_> Hi, is it possible to configure a single application to use a different version of java than default?
[19:38] <hack_> I want to use OpenJDK for most things, but Android Studio doesn't always like it
[19:38] <motaka3> TJ-: ?
[19:40] <mikaandre> Hello
[19:41] <wintermoon> Bashing-om hey, there's an error at "insmod linux" -> "file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/linux.mod' not found
[19:42] <EriC^^> !snappy | sandGorgon
[19:42] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: In that case .. because that file should be there .. I do suggest that you reinstall . Make sure that the .iso if valid ( md5sum ) and that the burn is good - boot the liveDVD to the boot menu and option is " check disk for defects " .
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[19:43] <EriC^^> sandGorgon: check this out https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/#snappy-local
[19:43] <EriC^^> it's a tiny image that can run on kvm
[19:43] <wintermoon> Bashihng-om yeah I checked the disk before installing and said it was OK
[19:44] <wintermoon> Bashing-om ^
[19:44] <hack_> is there something I can do to the command or script that launches android studio to make it (and only it) temporarily default to Oracle's JVM?
[19:44] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: My machine : " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /boot/grub/i386-pc/linux.mod >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13076 Nov 12 10:57 /boot/grub/i386-pc/linux.mod " .
[19:44] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[19:44] <wintermoon> Bashing-om :(
[19:44] <codelion> Hello, I have an offline mirror of the ubuntu repositories which my machine can access, trying to install from a USB disk but it is not detecting that it can download updates while installing, therefor disallowing the upgrade option for the installer, is there a way around this
[19:45] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: As you want .. we can mess about ... but I assure you at this point it will be much faster to do a fresh clean (RE-)install .
[19:46] <wintermoon> Bashing-om I see but I don't see the difference expect doing a correct drive partition, could that fix the issue? In that case what are the steps for a correct partitioning?
[19:47] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: What experience do you have with linux ? If all new .. I do recommend that in the install procedure that you choose " erase disk and install ubuntu" let the install wizard take care of everything but the personal detaols .
[19:48] <Bashing-om> details*
[19:48] <wintermoon> Bashing-om I thought that option would erase all my drives :D
[19:48] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Nope .. only the target drive / BUT make sure of what the target drive is identified as !
[19:49] <wintermoon> Bashing-om yeah, my bad then
[19:49] <wintermoon> Bashing-om I have a few more questions but BRB
[19:49] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: No, not bad at all .. it is that process of learning .
[19:49] <codelion> Anybody know if there's a way to force the ubuntu installer to recognize an offline mirror?
[19:50] <codelion> It won't let me select "upgrade from X to X" because its detecting that it is offline
[19:50] <kazdax> is there a room for video editing ?
[19:50] <akik> hack_: if my memory serves me well, you can do it with the JAVA_HOME env variable
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> !alis | kazdax
[19:50] <codelion> hack_: you need to set JAVA_HOME and ANDROID_JAVA_HOME
[19:51] <codelion> hack_: also, you'll want to make sure your path makes javac, etc the right binary
[19:51] <codelion> do 'which javac' to confirm, for example
[19:51] <hack_> codelion: are those global variables or are they local to a lauched application instance?
[19:52] <codelion> they're environment variables
[19:52] <codelion> so like, export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/your/jdk
[19:53] <akik> codelion: what does ANDROID_JAVA_HOME declare?
[19:53] <codelion> akik: I think actually that one is for AOSP, nevermind. just JAVA_HOME. hack_
[19:53] <codelion> my bad
[19:55] <TJ-> motaka3: My analyse reports there are 152 packages on that system that aren't the expected 12.04 Precise versions. That suggests it won't be possible to return it to a pure 12.04 state. That means trying to fix errors as they occur in getting it into a stable 14.04 Trusty state, or wipe it and do a clean installation.
[19:55] <TJ-> motaka3: this is the summary of differences: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13582462/
[19:56] <hack_> Ok thanks, just wanted to make sure if I started something (or if something else started automatically) that uses java it wouldn't suddenly be running on Oracle
[19:56] <ioria> TJ- there should be a tool to reverse a broken release-upgrade... don't you think ?
[19:57] <TJ-> ioria: not possible; release-upgrades run hand-tuned .prerm/.preinst/.postinst scripts . The only way would be using file-system snapshots with LVM etc
[19:57] <Paradisee_> hello guys, i just bought a hd to use as secondary (backup files) on ubuntu, but i cannot use it, how could i make it work?
[19:58] <TJ-> ioria: I think my awk script wasn't entirely accurate in matching package names, but it'll do :)
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: define 'cannot use it'?
[19:58] <ioria> TJ- :þ i read once something about a "restore point" in linux ....
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> ioria: fix broken packages from recoverymode?
[19:59] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: basically when i plug the hd it wasnt displayed, doing fdisk -l it was there..
[19:59] <TJ-> ioria: "apache2 FOUND: 2.2.22-1ubuntu1.10 EXPECTED: 4.3.9-13ubuntu3" looks a bit weird
[19:59] <TJ-> ioria: yeah, I've been working on such a thing
[19:59] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hi Lotus... no, an app
[19:59] <Paradisee_> now i used gparted to make a partiion on it but i cannot copy nothing in it...
[19:59] <ioria> TJ- really ?
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: try to format your hd with gparted
[19:59] <motaka3> TJ-: This cant get me 14.04 upgrade? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:00] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: i cannot format it...dunno why..
[20:00] <ioria> motaka3, with a proper sources.list ....
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: did you gksu gparted?
[20:00] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: what does that mean
[20:00] <wintermoon> Bashing-om hey, I'm reinstalling :), one more question, does Grub gets rid of Windows' boot??? I can imagine myself selecting a windows OS in Grub and then booting right on Windows previous dual-boot
[20:00] <motaka3> ioria: ?
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: how did you start gparted?
[20:00] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: sudo gparted
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: gksu gparted instead
[20:01] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: same..
[20:01] <ioria> motaka3, now, you should have the pangoline sources.list... you need to restore the file i send you
[20:01] <TJ-> motaka3: that's where we need to take it, so the previous step we did to return the system to the 12.04 Precise ap sources.list needs to be undone so that file again points to the trusty 14.04 archives
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: what format was your hd by default? ntfs? fat32?
[20:01] <HeisenbergsDog> or kdesudo :P
[20:01] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: it's ext4
[20:01] <HeisenbergsDog> to everyone his own
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: try formatting as ntfs, as a test
[20:02] <motaka3> TJ-: ioria Can you tell me how?
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Paradisee_: cli way : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive .
[20:02] <Paradisee_> i cannot format it.
[20:02] <Paradisee_> the type is in grey.
[20:02] <codelion> this is really frustrating...
[20:02] <Paradisee_> that means i cannot click on it.
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: hmm gparted that cant format a drive?
[20:03] <ioria> motaka3, we can try a new upgrade to 14.04
[20:03] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Grub will over-write existing boot code on the selected device only . On a hard drive there can be only one boot code !
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: you sure you selected the right hd on right upper corner?
[20:03] <Paradisee_> how do i see all the hd on my machine?
[20:03] <TJ-> motaka3: hang on, just looking at your files list
[20:03] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: ofc.
[20:03] <motaka3> TJ-: ioria ok waiting ...
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: check fdisk -l
[20:04] <TJ-> motaka3: do you get results from this: "grep 'trusty' /etc/apt/sources.list.bak" ?
[20:04] <Paradisee_> doesn't show nothing.
[20:04] <codelion> Does anyone know how the ubuntu installer determines if you are offline? Is it a generate 204 check perhaps?
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: what kind of hd is this?
[20:05] <Paradisee_> bw black 1 TB
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: usb?
[20:05] <motaka3> TJ-: Yes I do
[20:05] <TJ-> codelion: the Ubiquity GUI installer, or the underlying text-mode debian-installer?
[20:05] <Paradisee_> *WD sata
[20:05] <TJ-> motaka3: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list.bak"
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: wd black sata hd, connected to sata motherboard internal?
[20:05] <codelion> TJ-: the gui installer. I am not familiar with the underlying text mode installer
[20:05] <Paradisee_> yes ?
[20:05] <motaka3> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13582643/
[20:06] <TJ-> codelion: Ubiquity uses d-i under-the-hood, so I think it may defer to d-i to discover online state
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: check your syslog and dmesg perhaps
[20:06] <Paradisee_> how
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: /var/log/...
[20:07] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13582668/
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: you connected the hd yourself internal? cables all good? bios setup right?
[20:07] <codelion> TJ-: do you have any suggestions as to getting Ubiquity to work with an offline mirror of the ubuntu repositories? I have access to archive.ubuntu.com and its a very thourough mirror
[20:07] <goddard> lotuspsychje: i was wonder if an existing application existed that could help me manage applications ability to do things on my system.
[20:07] <Paradisee_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13582672/ lotuspsychje
[20:07] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: i supose.
[20:07] <TJ-> motaka3: OK, that file looks fine to use: "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.bak /etc/apt/sources.list" then do "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -type f -delete" then fetch the 14.04 lists with "sudo apt-get update"
[20:08] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: going to restart one sec
[20:09] <TJ-> codelion: I usually do it via an apt proxy. It can be set in a preseed file or on the kernel command-line, I seem to recall.
[20:09] <motaka3> TJ-:
[20:09] <motaka3> donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list.bak /etc/apt/sources.list" then do "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -type f -delete
[20:09] <motaka3> cp: accessing `ype': No such file or directory
[20:09] <TJ-> motaka3: you misread. There are 2 separate commands on that line, each in its own pair of " " marks
[20:10] <TJ-> motaka3: sorry, 3 separate commands!
[20:10] <ioria> motaka3, without " "
[20:10] <motaka3> Tj ok
[20:11] <motaka3> TJ-: is updating ...
[20:11] <Smn> guys, I'm using ubuntu 15.10 64 bits, for some reason new applications aren't getting added to the dash even though I can open them from alt f2 and the terminal
[20:12] <wintermoon> Bashing-om just reinstalled, now it won't even boot to Grub prompt :( it shows the cursor on top left
[20:12] <Paradisee_> ok, i formatted the hd in ext4
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: i see you have samsung ssd also, did you enable AHCI in bios?
[20:12] <Paradisee_> ........
[20:12] <Paradisee_> i have no idea.
[20:12] <Paradisee_> that is my ssd for the os
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: did you firmware upgrade your ssd?
[20:12] <Paradisee_> i did not.
[20:12] <Paradisee_> or at least not me.
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: evo 840 needs firmware upgrade to write performance
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: its reccomended you do this and reformat ubuntu
[20:13] <ioria> Smn, there is an entry for them in /usr/share/applications ?
[20:13] <Paradisee_> but we're talking about another hd
[20:13] <TJ-> codelion: you could use a "preseed/url" to provide the installer with a preseed file, which specificies your local apt archive
[20:13] <Paradisee_> not the ssd
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: also set bios from IDE to AHCI
[20:13] <mikaandre> firmware ??? waths
[20:13] <codelion> TJ-: I'm trying to look into your suggestion, but a few things: The mirror is at the same URL it should expect if its online, so I dont need to redirect it. 2: can you link to a guide to do what you are suggesting?
[20:14] <motaka3> TJ-: done
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: so you formatted your drive..
[20:14] <Paradisee_> i formatted the second one. the hd not the ssd
[20:14] <Smn> ioria, there actually is
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: how did you solve it
[20:14] <Paradisee_> changed the sata plug
[20:15] <Paradisee_> i plug'd it on the ssd one.
[20:15] <ioria> Smn, Super-key (Windows key) and type the name
[20:15] <TJ-> codelion: oh, if the local network is resolving the archive.ubuntu.com FQDN to a local host, then it should work. Maybe there's a call to some other server, like the one containing the release-upgrade files. run a tcpdump sniff on it to find out
[20:15] <Helppleaseeeeee> Hello
[20:15] <Smn> that's how I normally launch my applications
[20:15] <Helppleaseeeeee> I'm in desperate need of some help
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: i strongly advise you firmware your ssd
[20:15] <ioria> Smn, which is ?
[20:15] <Smn> calling the dash and type the name of the applicaiton
[20:15] <SchrodingersScat> !ask Helppleaseeeeee
[20:16] <Helppleaseeeeee> I just built my first PC and it boots up fine, however, when installing Ubuntu 15.10 it says "Invalid packet response from host"
[20:16] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: but this is a simple hd not a ssd.
[20:16] <Helppleaseeeeee> It says that over and over again and it's not installing
[20:16] <Smn> but since a couple of days ago new applications don't appear on it
[20:16] <TheEagerPadawan> hi guys, i got some experience with linux and i would like to achieve my first cert - i am wondering what would be a good one to start off with and what resources i should check - i found theurbanpinguin is he still valid?
[20:16] <TJ-> motaka3: ioria OK, this is where it gets 'interesting'. If you get any errors from commmands, pastebin the results and we'll investigate/fix each. "sudo apt-get -f install"
[20:16] <ioria> Smn, i mean, which application does not show ?
[20:16] <Paradisee_> i should be able to write on it.
[20:16] <Helppleaseeeeee> I'm so sad :(
[20:16] <SchrodingersScat> Helppleaseeeeee: try a new installation medium, either redo the liveUSB or burn another LiveCD
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: your hd is solved now, im talking about your ssd performance
[20:16] <mikaandre> vous parlez francais?
[20:16] <ioria> TJ- :þ
[20:16] <pbx> !fr| mikaandre
[20:16] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: i dont care about the ssd now.
[20:17] <Smn> a bunch of them, so the fault isn't on the applicaiton, because no new application shows
[20:17] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: i cannot write on the hd....a
[20:17] <codelion> TJ-: good idea, brb trying that
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: your choice
[20:17] <Helppleaseeeeee> SchrodingersScat: So could I just retry installing the USB?
[20:17] <Smn> some of theme are vim, puddletag, musicbrainz picard, selene media encoder
[20:17] <Helppleaseeeeee> like reboot and restart the installation
[20:17] <ioria> Smn, totem or evince work ?
[20:17] <mikaandre> merci
[20:17] <Smn> qtractor, qjackctl
[20:17] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: i just want to know why am i not able to write on the new hd.
[20:17] <motaka3> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13582827/
[20:17] <Smn> both work
[20:18] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: i got a folder "lost+found" in the hd, and i cannot even access to it.
[20:18] <Helppleaseeeeee> Hello
[20:18] <Helppleaseeeeee> I'm in desparate need of help
[20:18] <ioria> Smn, they are not cli ?
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: gksu nautilus and test from there
[20:18] <Smn> no
[20:18] <Helppleaseeeeee> How do I restart the installation process :(
[20:19] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: same
[20:19] <mikaandre> il y a un canaux un Portugais
[20:19] <Pici> !pt | mikaandre
[20:19] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Sheeshh .. show a new ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . let's see what the installer did .
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: error?
[20:19] <SchrodingersScat> Helppleaseeeeee: could try a simple reboot, but redoing the LiveUSB altogether may be required, also !md5sum the image to ensure that the download completed correctly and wasn't corrupted along the way.
[20:19] <Smn> the fault is not within the applications, they should appear, they have appeared on me before, in previous installs, and it is affecting all new applications
[20:19] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: none.
[20:19] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: got teamviewer if you have time.
[20:19] <ioria> Smn, let me try
[20:19] <mikaandre> Portugais-Portugal
[20:19] <Pici> mikaandre: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português.
[20:19] <Smn> the only exception is lollypop, but I built it from source, and the rest were installed from either official repos or from teh launchpad
[20:20] <Helppleaseeeeee> I can't restart the computer :( it keeps coming back to the installation I was already on
[20:20] <mikaandre> il y a pas em PT-PT
[20:20] <Helppleaseeeeee> I'm so sad
[20:20] <motaka3> TJ-: Is there anything wrong with the output
[20:20] <motaka3> ?
[20:21] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13582885/
[20:21] <TJ-> motaka3: good do far. time to consult with ioria: the system has 152 14.04 packages, but the core files seem to be 12.04. Do you think it is worth trying to redo a do-release-upgrade ?
[20:21] <shaun__> hi guys my /usr/local is only 239MB its entirely too small and now i cant install anything cause ive run out of space how do i increase the space
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: try gparted to ntfs now
[20:22] <wintermoon> Bashing-om I can't even boot through Grub CD... it's stuck at "adding 16GB swap on /dev/sdb5" dayum prolly it's killing my SSD :D
[20:22] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: i cannot format again...
[20:22] <ioria> TJ- he can try that , if fails upgrade && release-upgrade (risky but fixable)
[20:22] <SchrodingersScat> Helppleaseeeeee: you can turn it off though
[20:22] <ioria> TJ- sossy , if fails upgrade && dist-upgrade
[20:22] <wintermoon> Bashing-om mmm lemme try again
[20:23] <TJ-> ioria: i think dist-upgrade first
[20:23] <wintermoon> Bashing-om weird, it boots now
[20:23] <wintermoon> Bashing-om well, through Grub, I'll check that command
[20:23] <ioria> TJ- he needs an upgrade .....
[20:23] <Helppleaseeeeee> Please I'm in desparate need of some help
[20:23] <ioria> Smn, working for me.....
[20:23] <Helppleaseeeeee> I had a failed installation
[20:24] <Helppleaseeeeee> How do I reset the deisk
[20:24] <Helppleaseeeeee> and restart the installation
[20:24] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: ouch ! .. well how long has this " installing to sdb5" been going on . By the way swap on sdb5 is what we would expect . That is the good news .
[20:24] <ioria> Smn, cat /etc/issue
[20:25] <TJ-> motaka3: OK, let's just go for it: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[20:25] <motaka3> TJ-: Ok
[20:25] <motaka3> TJ-: on the way
[20:25] <wintermoon> Bashing-om At first didn't boot, then stuck at that swap line, now it boots normally I guess (through Grub CD)...
[20:25] <TJ-> motaka3: I'm hoping it doesn't try to release-upgrade *from* 14.04 to some later version :D
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> Helppleaseeeeee: start again with usb?
[20:25] <Smn> only thing in there is "Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[20:25] <Smn> "
[20:25] <ioria> TJ- omg
[20:26] <motaka3> TJ-: I hope so.
[20:26] <wintermoon> Bashing-om fdisk output is:
[20:26] <TJ-> ioria: hehehe right! strong coffee time :D
[20:26] <codelion> TJ-: it turns out that our mirror doesn't cover updates. I took a full disk backup instead, time to clean install
[20:26] <codelion> :(
[20:26] <codelion> thanks for the help
[20:26] <TJ-> codelion: you're welcome
[20:26] <wintermoon> Bashing-om sdb1 Linux, sdb2 Extended, sdb5 Linux swap / Solaris
[20:26] <TheEagerPadawan> which linux certs is good to begin with and where do i find decent resources
[20:26] <motaka3> ioria: :D What happened ? Did he risked my life?
[20:26] <goddard> is there an application permissions/security layer?
[20:26] <TJ-> TheEagerPadawan: cut your teeth helping in channels like this :)
[20:26] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: So ? Did the actual install to sdb complete ? Have you tried booting - set in bios to boot the 2nd hard drive as 1st boot priority ) ?
[20:27] <ioria> motaka3, no
[20:27] <motaka3> ioria: :D TJ- is great
[20:27] <ioria> motaka3, absolutly
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> goddard: is apparmor what you looking for?
[20:27] <TJ-> motaka3: no, we were considering how the upgrade could see the 14.04 files there and think it was expected to upgrade from those to a later version :D
[20:27] <wintermoon> Bashing-om yep, 2nd drive is still 1st priority, and I have just reinstalled again on that same drive with the Wizard managing the partitions
[20:27] <TheEagerPadawan> TJ-: system administration would be interesting for me
[20:27] <TJ-> motaka3: because we still don't know exactly how the system got so broken, or what else is lying in wait for us
[20:28] <wintermoon> Bashing-om, but I don't even see the Grub prompt right now if I reboot
[20:28] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Great, so what results when booting the install ?
[20:28] <motaka3> TJ-: I hope every thing goes fine. IN the city where I live internet interrupts so much. Would it be trouble some for the upgrade?
[20:28] <TJ-> TheEagerPadawan: you can learn alot about the things that go wrong, and how to fix then, in channels like this and #ubuntu-server, and ##linux, as well as playing about yourself with virtual machines
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> !apparmor | goddard
[20:28] <wintermoon> Bashing-om just the cursor on top left looping
[20:28] <jhutchins> TheEagerPadawan: Break things, figure out how to fix them.
[20:29] <jhutchins> TheEagerPadawan: Build a copy of each of the major distributions.
[20:29] <ioria> Smn, did you install qtractor with apt-get ?
[20:29] <jhutchins> TheEagerPadawan: http://tldp.org
[20:29] <Smn> yes
[20:29] <Smn> which I've done before
[20:29] <TJ-> motaka3: it could be, but the release-upgrader is supposed to cope with such things. bad connectivity wouldn't explain how /var/lib/dpkg/arch got deleted - release-upgrade would never delete that file
[20:29] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: A thought .. even though I see no idication of GPT , is this an UEFI system ?
[20:30] <motaka3> TJ-: ok then
[20:30] <wintermoon> Bashing-om, besides that, the screen flickers each second or so... Sorry I don't know what UEFI means
[20:30] <TheEagerPadawan> jhutchins: i ain't looking this as a hobby project, i'm serious regarding getting in the workfield and i need to be able to show my experience they only way you can do this is with a cert these days
[20:30] <ioria> Smn, did you tweak System Settings -> Security & Privacy ?
[20:30] <Smn> I should bring more info, a few days ago(I already had the problem)someone recommended to deleted the cache, I did logetd out and in and the applications up to that point all showed, but when I installed new applications they didn't appear
[20:30] <Smn> no, I haven't even entered that part of the settings
[20:30] <motaka3> TJ-: it says it will take 11 hours :D
[20:31] <TJ-> motaka3: Time for bed :D
[20:31] <Smn> so the problem is along the lines of dash not chekcing for th enew files
[20:31] <ioria> motaka3, come on ....
[20:31] <Smn> and only doing so when its cache is manually deleted
[20:31] <motaka3> TJ-: Yea I have to drive home
[20:31] <TJ-> motaka3: this is why it is often easier to download an ISO installer and start fresh :)
[20:31] <jhutchins> TheEagerPadawan: The one Linux admin I know who has certs also has the worst job.
[20:31] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary
[20:32] <motaka3> TJ-: yeah you are right. I saved several links to study. I learnt so many things from you. Thank you
[20:32] <malloh> Hi,people
[20:32] <motaka3> ioria: thank you for taking care of my case. You are really a nice person
[20:32] <malloh> please help me
[20:32] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Makes no sense to me that this is the result . OK, reboot the machine, as soon as the bios screen clears depress and hold a shift key -> grub boot menu ?
[20:32] <ioria> motaka3, you're welcome
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: join ##hardware and ask if its known issue
[20:32] <TheEagerPadawan> jhutchins: how do you think you get past hr if you are junior and still have everything to proof?
[20:32] <codephobic> anyone here use #yeoman or ##webdev? Are these channels dead or is there a network split or something happening?
[20:33] <motaka3> TJ-: by the way should leave my laptop ON so the putty can continue working ?
[20:33] <TJ-> TheEagerPadawan: certificates don't mean a lot to many of us; we go on your ability to adapt in the field to challenges, and knowing how systems tick and what the various core services are and how they should be managed. You only learn that by actually doing - moreso by playing about and deliberately breaking it and then trying to figure out how it broke and how to correct it
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> codephobic: ask in #freenode please
[20:33] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[20:33] <TJ-> motaka3: it would be good yes, if something goes wrong the putty terminal will show what last happened
[20:33] <jhutchins> TheEagerPadawan: It's not easy. Learn the system well. Make contributions to wikis and documentation and such.
[20:33] <Paradisee_> lotuspsychje: seems like fdisk doesnt support that type.
[20:33] <Paradisee_> what should i use instead?
[20:34] <sky-2k> moinsen @all
[20:34] <motaka3> ok TJ- thanks again good night
[20:34] <wintermoon> Bashing-om nope, still black screen and cursor
[20:35] <TheEagerPadawan> jhutchins: all true but tell the corporate world that
[20:35] <malloh> Screen resolution 1920-1080 did not monitor and LCD tv.No icons , windows and other large . From the program additional drivers tried all options - the same result
[20:36] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: Do not know what to say other than we are back to verifying the .iso and the burn . If that box boots Windows, it will boot linux .
[20:36] <ioria> Smn, try to reinstall two packages ...http://askubuntu.com/questions/225519/applications-not-showing-in-unity-dash
[20:37] <ioria> Smn, try to reinstall two packages ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/225519/applications-not-showing-in-unity-dash
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> Paradisee_: maybe this can help? http://guleweb.com/blog/?p=34
[20:37] <TJ-> TheEagerPadawan: the key word is "experience" and that includes things you do yourself. I'm much more impressed by seeing side-projects and self-taught skills because the most important skills are analysis, deduction, research, and working from documentation.
[20:38] <Bashing-om> wintermoon: In the installation phase, did you note where grub would be installed ? sdb ! .
[20:38] <wintermoon> Bashing-om no, installation was automatic
[20:38] <wintermoon> Bashing-om could boot into the OS and reinstall Grub be an option? or something?
[20:39] <Smn> ioria, that guys problem is different, he's not getting any applications, I am but only the ones installed before x date, and anyway, I had already installe dthe applicaiton lens
[20:39] <ioria> Smn, ok
[20:39] <TJ-> wintermoon: have you tried switching boot device order?
[20:40] <wintermoon> TJ- 1st device is Drive where Ubuntu was installed
[20:40] <Smn> reinstalled* I mean. But it had no effect
[20:41] <TJ-> wintermoon: right, I'm saying if there are multiple devices, switch them!
[20:41] <TJ-> wintermoon: that, or positively prove where the boot-strap and boot-loader are
[20:41] <wintermoon> TJ- any way to prove that? please note I'm just a regular inexperienced user
[20:42] <TJ-> wintermoon: well, I generally try to work from evidence, so I do diagnosis to identify what the actual install locations look like, rather than guessing
[20:42] <ioria> Smn, is that you :þ ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/704073/newly-installed-applications-not-showing-in-dash-menu
[20:44] <wintermoon> TJ- hmmm
[20:44] <Smn> that's a mere coincidence. I haven't asked for help anywhere but here
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> malloh: ubuntu version? card chipset? driver active?
[20:44] <Smn> after reading it I'm surprised he seems to have done the same as me
[20:45] <Smn> also, it seems his case is a little different, because he says they appear on reboot or after launching thorugh terminal, which doesn't happen to me
[20:45] <TJ-> wintermoon: the boot process is pretty simple: power-on > firmware power-on-self-test (POST) > firmware boot-manager -> read boot-strap code from boot device into memory > execute boot-strap > boot-strap loads additional boot-loader code > boot-manager menu > load OS > execute OS
[20:45] <ioria> Smn, right
[20:46] <TJ-> wintermoon: now, if the 'boot-strap' or 'boot loader' code was accidentally installed to a device which isn't 1st in the boot-order, the problems you describe would be expected. That's why I suggested trying to change the boot-order (if there are multiple devices available)
[20:46] <goddard> lotuspsychje: not sure let me look
[20:46] <ioria> Smn, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1506744
[20:46] <sarge> hello
[20:46] <wintermoon> TJ- I understand now, I'll try
[20:46] <ghost_> hello guys
[20:47] <sarge> can anyone help me to get a registration number
[20:47] <Smn> looks like 15.10 didn't come out so polished
[20:48] <Smn> there is another bug related to the trash icon where if you empty the trash it will launch nautilus after the fact
[20:48] <sarge> help
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> Smn: use LTS for more stable experience
[20:48] <ioria> Smn, you could try #12
[20:49] <TJ-> sarge: Ubuntu does not have a registration number
[20:49] <Smn> I know, I prefer to deal with this than with older packages, just saying that a stable release shouldn't be suffering from these problem
[20:50] <sarge> I was on here and I took there was?
[20:50] <wintermoon> TJ- it seems that was the case, thank you
[20:50] <wintermoon> TJ- anyways it's still messy
[20:50] <TJ-> wintermoon: yay... so now it is booted, you need to *fix* that !
[20:50] <TJ-> wintermoon: as I understand it you now have a disk with the Linux boot-loader on, but the OS on a different disk?
[20:51] <Smn> ioria, , that actually worked
[20:51] <ioria> Smn, you're lucky guy
[20:51] <Smn> so the problem is within the loader
[20:51] <wintermoon> TJ- indeed
[20:51] <Smn> thank you, ioria
[20:51] <TJ-> wintermoon: so, use "sudo lsblk -f" and identify which device name hosts the root file-system at /
[20:51] <ioria> Smn, you're welcome
[20:52] <wintermoon> TJ- sdb1
[20:53] <TJ-> wintermoon: OK, now do "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb" and if no errors are reported, do "sudo update-grub"
[20:54] <TJ-> wintermoon: note that is "/dev/sdb" *not* "/dev/sdb1"
[20:54] <wintermoon> TJ- yep, done
[20:54] <TJ-> wintermoon: OK, reboot, change boot order to the 'Linux' device, and it should work
[20:56] <wintermoon> TJ- YAY! it boots, now lemme check if Win boots correctly
[20:56] <EriC^^> !yay | wintermoon
[20:56] <TJ-> wintermoon: that's where you may have to fix it up
[20:57] <wintermoon> TJ- yeah it was somewhat messy before installation, don't know how to explain tho, but had mixed bootings (?)
[20:57] <wintermoon> TJ- had two devices, one Win on each, and sometimes when booting the system would reboot before starting the OS
[20:58] <TJ-> wintermoon: when there are several devices, the installer sometimes guesses wrong. It assumes the device currently listed first by the firmware is the 1 you want as boot device, so unless you spot that and change it at partitioning time, the boot loader goes onto the 'wrong' device if you want to keep them separate
[21:00] <wintermoon> TJ- I see, I didn't know that, I messed at some point back then
[21:00] <wintermoon> TJ- now at Grub I see the following:
[21:02] <wintermoon> TJ- I have three Windows options... listed as follow: *Win 8 (on /dev/sda1) *Win 8 (on /dev/sda2) *Win 8 (on /dev/sdc1)
[21:03] <wintermoon> TJ- I selected the first Win option, and it led me to the previous Windows default Dual-boot (previous to Ubuntu installation)
[21:03] <TJ-> wintermoon: urgh, sounds like it just got complicated!
[21:03] <wintermoon> TJ- LOL... I want grub to show only two Win options, one for sda and other for sdc...
[21:03] <TJ-> wintermoon: I'd *guess* /dev/sda1 is a Windows Recovery image (the first partition generally is, if not hidden)
[21:04] <wintermoon> TJ- I see
[21:04] <TJ-> wintermoon: so I'd think /dev/sda2 is one installation, and possibly sdc1 is the other (though that could be a Recovery image too!)
[21:04] <TJ-> wintermoon: try "sudo blkid"
[21:05] <wintermoon> TJ- one of them is a Win 7 dual-boot, dunno which
[21:06] <TJ-> wintermoon: if you can boot, from GRUB, into the Windows install, it might be worth having it re-install its own boot-strap code into the MBR of /dev/sda so it uses native Windows boot with no GRUB involvement, that way you can choose Win8 or Ubuntu simply by selected the boot device from firmware.
[21:07] <TJ-> wintermoon: just make sure it doesn't write it into that /dev/sdb!
[21:08] <wintermoon> TJ- hmmmm
[21:08] <TJ-> wintermoon: situations like these, I do love UEFI :)
[21:09] <wintermoon2> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/13583685/
[21:10] <wintermoon> TJ- Win8 and DATA have both a Win8 installation on each
[21:11] <TJ-> wintermoon: GRUB relies on os-prober to add foreign OS entries. Try running it, see what it discovers. "sudo os-prober"
[21:13] <wintermoon> TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/13583750/
[21:13] <TJ-> wintermoon: so, that shows you os-prober thinks differently to you about sdc
[21:14] <TJ-> wintermoon: there is no GRUB configuration to have it amend the os-prober output; you can only disable it entirely so GRUB doesn't add foreign entries
[21:15] <dedline> Test
[21:16] <TJ-> wintermoon: actually, the /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober shell script does process "GRUB_OS_PROBER_SKIP_LIST"
[21:17] <TJ-> wintermoon: it looks as if the code their looks for the UUID of the partition(s) you want to skip in that variable
[21:18] <wintermoon> TJ- I guess the boot was spoiled previously, but why it shows three different Windows options? There must be some way to get rid of them and let GRUB manage each Windows boot individually? :D
[21:19] <TJ-> wintermoon: so you could add GRUB_OS_PROBER_SKIP_LIST="069AE3D39AE3BCF5 C6EE2876EE286143" to '/etc/default/grub' to have it skip /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdc1
[21:19] <TJ-> wintermoon: but something is missing from /dev/sdc5 that os-prober expects, which is why it doesn't list that partition as bootable
[21:20] <TJ-> wintermoon: I seem to recall it looks for /boot/bootmgr.exe or similar
[21:21] <TJ-> wintermoon: the shell script in /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/20microsoft does the hunting/recognising of Windows OS
[21:22] <wintermoon> TJ- hmmm
[21:28] <sulfasal> on a new install 1510, how do I edit the preferences in terminal and gedit?
[21:29] <bekks> sulfasal: Which preferences?
[21:29] <sulfasal> line number background etc
[21:29] <bekks> of what?
[21:30] <sulfasal> terminal gedit etc theirs no way to configure them
[21:30] <sulfasal> there's
[21:30] <bekks> Terminal doesnt have line numbers to be shown.
[21:30] <sulfasal> ok gedit
[21:31] <bekks> if its not in the preferences, there is no way.
[21:31] <sulfasal> lol, lubuntu does
[21:31] <bekks> So its in the preferences - somewhere :)
[21:32] <sulfasal> Looking at gedit window on ubuntu1510 right now. No preferences
[21:33] <sulfasal> open save print undo that's it
[21:33] <nicomachus> one sec sulfasal let me pull up gedit on one of my 15.10 machines
[21:34] <EriC^^> sulfasal: check the global menu at the top left corner ( mouse-over so it appears )
[21:34] <nicomachus> sulfasal: lubuntu uses leafpad, not gedit
[21:34] <sulfasal> nicomachus: nuh-uh
[21:34] <sulfasal> uses both
[21:36] <sulfasal> EriC^^: nope, nothing there. Am I missing some GTK thingee? This is a brand new install.
[21:36] <nicomachus> sulfasal: Edit --> Preferences and there's a check-box for "display line numbers" under view
[21:36] <nicomachus> it may be in your top menu bar, not connected to the actual gedit window.
[21:37] <sulfasal> nicomachus: ain't no edit there's just icons across the top open, save, print, undo that's it
[21:37] <EriC^^> sulfasal: hold alt so the menu at the top appears
[21:38] <sulfasal> EriC^^: ok I see now, it's on the top of the screen NOT the actual gedit window
[21:38] * nicomachus said that...
[21:38] <EriC^^> yeah, ubuntu uses global menu's if you hover the mouse over it it'll appear
[21:38] <EriC^^> ( it can be disabled btw )
[21:39] <sulfasal> how
[21:39] <EriC^^> sulfasal: settings > appearance > behavior > menus
[21:41] <Tommalla> Hey, I broke my unity :<
[21:41] <sulfasal> thx
[21:41] <EriC^^> sulfasal: np
[21:41] <nicomachus> Tommalla: nothing wrong with that. :)
[21:41] <EriC^^> Tommalla: does the guest account work?
[21:43] <Tommalla> So, I have this liveUSB of 15.10. I booted it up, installed a bunch of things including nvidia-drivers and gcc-4.9 (trying to run a CUDA project on a liveUSB). After that I closed the lid of my laptop for a moment and that's when all hell broke loose.
[21:44] <Tommalla> When I reopened the lid, there was a login screen but whenever I logged in (login: ubuntu, pass:blank), there would be an error about some program crashing (unity, I presume?). I rebooted, and now I only get the desktop with no top/left bars nor window decorations.
[21:45] <Tommalla> When I tried to run unity from console, it gave me errors about glib missing. I reinstalled python-gobject and upgraded unity. Now when I try to run unity from console it hangs on "compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded." and nothing more happens.
[21:45] <Tommalla> nicomachus, EriC^^: ^
[21:47] <daftykins> Tommalla: don't see the point in trying to achieve such a task from a live session.
[21:48] <daftykins> and no debug can be done because you'll reboot and it'll all be gone...
[21:49] <simon^^> I am a consultant doing an assignment for a major home appliance company. It is a research project and I'm creating a datalogger for dishwashers. The platform I use is a beaglebone with a custom cape that has the electronics required to talk to the dishwasher. Ubuntu 14.04 was selected for rootfs and I`m using the freshest 4.1 kernel. This device is going to be shipped to customers (brainless people) and they will need
[21:49] <simon^^> to connect to the logger through its wifi and install deb packages using some windows program I will write to update the software on their logger. My question is: what available options do I have for remotely installing software where everything has to be operated by braindead people (consumers)?
[21:50] <daftykins> simon^^: why such a new kernel? also if this thing is ARM, bear in mind #ubuntu-arm exists
[21:50] <nicomachus> 4.1 on 14.04?
[21:50] <daftykins> yeah stops it being ubuntu imo.
[21:50] <simon^^> Irrelevant, I am not going to change kernel
[21:50] <daftykins> simon^^: but you already have, since 4.1 doesn't come with 14.04
[21:50] <daftykins> so what you're running is no longer ubuntu 14.04
[21:51] <simon^^> It is still irrelevant to the question
[21:51] <daftykins> yes, but i'm asking anyway - being stubborn and refusing just makes you come across as though you have an attitude
[21:51] <Tommalla> daftykins: It won't. I have a partition on that liveusb for the data. AFAIK it should stay there.
[21:52] <simon^^> It was a collegue of mine, I agree it was a stupid decision and I have spent tens of hours just to wrestle kernel issues, but right now its what ive got :P
[21:52] <Tommalla> daftykins: There's no other way to do this - this is the only CUDA-compatible machine I have and it's not mine so I cannot modify the hard drive
[21:52] <daftykins> simon^^: why not configure a default samba share that people can throw packages on, then script up automatically parsing that path to install them? if i follow you right
[21:52] <simon^^> He mentioned something about "new networking features"
[21:52] <daftykins> Tommalla: then your plan is flawed.
[21:52] <TJ-> simon^^: if the 'logger' ahs WiFi why can't it update packages itself?
[21:53] <simon^^> daftykins, that is one option, we were also discussing setting up a node server and http posting debs
[21:53] <dusan_> Hello there
[21:54] <simon^^> I was thinking there might be some corporate 'distribute software transparently to clients' way too, but I know of none
[21:54] <daftykins> what do those beaglebones run from? SD cards for the OS, like a Pi?
[21:54] <zerowaitstate> simon^^: take a look at snappy maybe?
[21:54] <Tommalla> daftykins: Well, have a better idea?
[21:54] <zerowaitstate> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/
[21:54] <daftykins> Tommalla: yeah, arrange proper access to a proper target machine you *can* control.
[21:54] <Tommalla> daftykins: told you, impossible
[21:54] <Tommalla> I can, however, suspend this machine
[21:55] <Tommalla> Which I have been doing
[21:55] <simon^^> It runs from internal flash. First it boots from SD, then it copies the SD card to internal eMMC card and dd's null to the boot sector of the SD using a custom script
[21:55] <daftykins> Tommalla: enjoy then. your constraints sound utterly ridiculous.
[21:55] <simon^^> then it formats the SD and use it for storing logs
[21:55] <daftykins> simon^^: ah, so too slow to ship updated cards i take it?
[21:56] <simon^^> zerowaitstate, I will do that, thanks
[21:56] <dusan_> Is there anyone around who uses Ubuntu Gnome?
[21:56] <zerowaitstate> simon^^: bear in mind snappy isn't really production ready yet
[21:56] <TJ-> simon^^: set-up your own ubuntu mirror archive which contains just the packages required; configure the 'logger' device to use that as its repos, ensure the device can get an IPv4 and IPv6 address using dhcp/dhcpv6 and RA, and that your repo server answers to both IPv4/v6, and has DNS entries for both A and AAAA records, and then all you do is publish a new version of the package in your repo and all the
[21:56] <TJ-> loggers will eventually call-in and upgrade
[21:56] <bekks> dusan_: I bet some people do.#
[21:56] <simon^^> daftykins, not really, it is just something I made quickly for the upcoming release. Later we will probably PXE boot or something
[21:57] <TJ-> I know a gnome that uses Ubuntu :)
[21:57] <simon^^> the installation is done at the factory
[21:57] <dusan_> hahaah nice one :D
[21:57] <daftykins> dusan_: ask the actual question
[21:57] <zerowaitstate> would GNOME Ubuntu be Gubuntu?
[21:58] <simon^^> TJ the logger can only access the laptop of the customer when they connect, it is a design decision to not allow it to access the internet in any way
[21:58] <dusan_> Nah just wondering how many people use it :D
[21:58] <k1l> zerowaitstate: no. its ubuntu-gnome
[21:58] <dusan_> everything is good but gnome-terminal sucks balls
[21:58] <simon^^> and the laptop has very restricted company policy so they cant install anything and they are definately not admin :P
[21:59] <simon^^> and it runs windoze
[21:59] <nicomachus> dusan_: that's really a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic, this is strictly a support channel
[21:59] <dusan_> Ah ok :)
[21:59] <TJ-> simon^^: how will the customer connect then? will they have to switch to ad-hoc wifi mode, or do you intend the device to operate as an AP, potentially polluting the 802.11bg band ?
[21:59] <dusan_> Ok then I have a real question is there any way to make unity web player run on Ubuntu?
[22:00] <TJ-> simon^^: or is the device connecting by wired Ethernet, or USB?
[22:00] <nicomachus> dusan_: you may find this helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/425317/unity-web-player-for-ubuntu
[22:00] <daftykins> dusan_: probably not, i see a lot of articles talking about pipelight hacks but i bet most of those fail now.
[22:00] <daftykins> heh yeah like the above link, which has replies saying it doesn't work
[22:01] <nicomachus> oh.
[22:01] * nicomachus slinks away and leaves daftykins to handle things
[22:03] <daftykins> nicomachus: i was on the same page when you linked it :D
[22:03] * nicomachus is still only on level 3 of his Hooked-on-Phonics audiotape
[22:09] <simon^^> TJ-, The device operates as an AP. What do you mean by polluting the 802.11bg band? Do I need to have some certificate to run an AP or is it just a general concern?
[22:10] <simon^^> I checked out snappy, its not really what im looking for
[22:10] <TJ-> simon^^: general concern - most homes are already congested with neighbour APs; adding another isn't going to win friends
[22:10] <TJ-> simon^^: if it only operates when turned on/off manually to do data exchanges that'd be OK, but I'd recommend against an always-on AP device
[22:11] <simon^^> TJ-, it operates when you run a program on your dishwasher
[22:11] <k1l> simon^^: canonical got some thing called "landscape"
[22:11] <simon^^> its powered by the powerboard bus
[22:12] <TJ-> simon^^: any programme, or a special one for data logging? if the former, I'd expect some customers reporting 'bad wifi' for their personal systems when the thing is operating.
[22:13] <TJ-> simon^^: 2.4GHz band with 802.11b/g (20 MHz channel width) has only 3 completely non-overlapping channels. When it is 802.11n (40MHz channel width) that reduces to 2.
[22:14] <BigMao> Hi there, I've been experiencing freezing on a fresh install of Ubuntu. The input devices are unresponsive for about 1-2 minutes after seeing the login screen. How can I diagnose this problem?
[22:14] <simon^^> TJ the goal of the product is to "monitor" the habits of the customer, and to parse logs to find suspicious sensor values etc. using analysis software. Only employees will have it and they will get a free dishwasher in exchange for using the system. This means that yes, it runs on any programme
[22:14] <TJ-> simon^^: if those Windows PCs are locked down, I'd suggest the easiest way to have ubuntu updates delivered would be to have a minimal Ubuntu virtual machine to deliver them, running on Windows
[22:16] <simon^^> I was thinking that. The aim is to have an application with two buttons to run on their computer. They press one button when they are home, and one when they are at work. Thats the whole synchronization mechanism. We want to download logs, update software and add (change) configuration files. Ive developed a bunch of deb packages for all this already but the thing I still have to do is this updating mechanism.
[22:16] <TJ-> simon^^: we have some packages designed to do that kind of thing. apt-mirror, apt-cacher-ng, aptoncd, and others
[22:17] <BigMao> I'm also having an issue where I can't access any of my virtual terminals (CTRL + ALT + F1-F6). Instead I get a blank screen. Does anyone have this problem?
[22:17] <TJ-> !apt-offline | simon^^ this can be used on Windows systems too
[22:17] <TJ-> !info apt-offline | simon^^ this can be used on Windows systems too
[22:18] <simon^^> TJ cool! I have a bit of reading to do now :D Thank you for helping me out
[22:20] <ubuntu452> Hi guys! I was wondering about intel graphics drivers on 14.04.3 I went to 01.org but it appears that the packages available there don't have support for 14.04.3, any advice on how to get better support for the graphics card?
[22:20] <daftykins> do not install from that site
[22:20] <ubuntu452> daftykins: I haven't
[22:20] <daftykins> you already have the best support, 3.19 kernel on LTS :)
[22:20] <jesuslovesyouthi> I'm trying to use macchanger with the random option (ie: macchanger -r < interface >); but the outcome is the same address (same as my acutual mac). I did do 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 down and did use prefix my macchanger command with sudo. What am I doing wrong?
[22:21] <daftykins> jesuslovesyouthi: this is Kali isn't it.
[22:21] <ubuntu452> daftykins: My 1024x768 resolution disagrees with you x)
[22:21] <TJ-> ubuntu452: resolution is generally due to the monitor not supplying valid EDID
[22:21] <jesuslovesyouthi> daftykins: ubuntu 14.04
[22:21] <daftykins> ubuntu452: that's not driver based, perhaps you should've started with that as your question... desktop/laptop ? connection type?
[22:21] <ubuntu452> Desktop LAN
[22:22] <daftykins> what has LAN got to do with anything?
[22:22] <ubuntu452> daftykins: I thought it was the intel driver
[22:22] <daftykins> i'm saying connection type of the display :)
[22:22] <TJ-> ubuntu452: "pastebinit <( xrandr -q )" from a GUI terminal shell
[22:23] <ubuntu452> daftykins: omg im sorry, my brain is half turned off... VGA cable, desktop, monitor is a samsung (no idea model, im not close to the PC with the issue atm)
[22:23] <daftykins> not close means what? why are you here asking? :)
[22:24] <daftykins> we need to see direct output and logs etc, so if you're not there, we can't help other than to say it's 2015 - use a digital connection
[22:24] <ubuntu452> daftykins: not close means, it's the work desktop, im at home right now... Let me connect to it
[22:24] <jesuslovesyouthi> Am I supposed to use some other program (like urandom) along with my macchanger command? Bc that's not how I see used here : http://linuxconfig.org/change-mac-address-with-macchanger-linux-command
[22:24] <simon^^> TJ another question :) What is the recommended way for managing private keys (for signing deb packages) for large companies? Do I need to request money for a safe with two large golden keys that have to be turned simultaneously in different ends of a room to lock it up in, or is there a simpler way?
[22:24] <ubuntu452> daftykins: my mobo doesn't support anything else
[22:24] * nicomachus is curious about how much of the consulting fee is now going to TJ-
[22:24] <daftykins> that's unlikely
[22:25] <ubuntu452> daftykins: but sadly true
[22:25] <daftykins> must be older than i thought
[22:25] <daftykins> nicomachus: he gets _all_ the virtual cookies :)
[22:25] <TJ-> simon^^: yeah, that... or just an air-gapped PC to generate a CA (Certificate Authority) key-pair, and issue your own signing certs with that, and install the public CA cert on the devices
[22:25] <simon^^> haha :P The job of a consultant is to quickly gather intelligence and act as it was there all the time :P
[22:26] <TJ-> nicomachus: so far, 5 chocolate cookies om non non :D
[22:26] <haskel> when you check command -h, it shows a lot of optional arguments, how do you know what the values are for those optional arguments?
[22:26] <haskel> i.e. an option arg: --stdout
[22:26] <daftykins> haskel: by learning to run "man <command>"
[22:26] <haskel> what value do I give it if I want to turn it on?
[22:26] <haskel> daftykins, let me give that a shot
[22:26] <simon^^> TJ thank you, I owe you a bunch of beers man
[22:27] <simon^^> If you`re ever in sweden
[22:27] <nicomachus> clearly he wants chocolate cookies
[22:27] <simon^^> I`ll ship some of the best Amsterdam space cake
[22:27] <haskel> daftykins, it says no manual entry for command
[22:27] <ubuntu452> daftykins: What am I looking for? When I get there again tomorrow, what should I record to get some help?
[22:27] <daftykins> ubuntu452: TJ- asked you to run a command, so...
[22:28] <jesuslovesyouthi> it's cool. I'll worry about it later
[22:28] <jesuslovesyouthi> thx
[22:29] <ubuntu452> TJ-: 1024x768 60.0 800x600 60.3 56.2 640x480 59.9
[22:29] <TJ-> nicomachus: it sounds like fairly typical PLM data collection
[22:29] <daftykins> ubuntu452: don't paste to here
[22:29] <ubuntu452> TJ-: those are the modes supported atm
[22:30] <daftykins> ubuntu452: you needed to install "pastebinit" then run the command given
[22:30] <nicomachus> TJ-: I was just trying to mess with him.
[22:30] <daftykins> then link us to the URL resulting from it :)
[22:30] <ubuntu452> daftykins: ^-^
[22:30] <TJ-> ubuntu452: we'd need to see the pastebin, because it gives more contextual info, but those resolutions look to be the standard VESA resolutions when there's no better EDID info from the monitor. Check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues that EDID is failing
[22:32] <corvo> hi guys, trying to install yumi and first I couldn't because I didn't have gambas3-runtime installed on my 12.04. I found a way to manually install it by following a wiki, I did but then I had to create a dummy package for it with 'equivs'. Followed that procedure too but it gave me this error http://pastebin.fr/43624. I still tried to install it after all (now that I manage to manually install gambas3-runtime even if without equivs...) and It works but it doe
[22:32] <corvo> sn't start giving me this other error "Cannot load class 'TrayIcon': Unable to load class file. FMain.FMain.0" Dunno what to do anymore, help! Please :)
[22:32] <ubuntu452> TJ-: Hypothetically if the issue is with the monitor not being correctly identified, I presume I'd have to install the monitor drivers, is that right?
[22:32] <nicomachus> corvo: any reason you're still running 12.04?
[22:32] <daftykins> ubuntu452: no
[22:33] <daftykins> ubuntu452: i take it you're new to Linux and normally use Windows? drivers aren't the answer :)
[22:33] <TJ-> ubuntu452: no, my first suggestion if EDID fails is to check the pins at both ends of the VGA monitor - specifically the DDC pins
[22:33] <corvo> nicomachis: hardware stability with my machine, tried 13.10 and 14.04 but there were no doubts I should have go back to 12.04, way faster and better for my pc
[22:33] <corvo> nicomachus: hardware stability with my machine, tried 13.10 and 14.04 but there were no doubts I should have go back to 12.04, way faster and better for my pc
[22:33] <ubuntu452> daftykins, TJ- I haven't used Linux in a while... forgot about the configuration issues after installing a distro =)
[22:34] <TJ-> ubuntu452: EDID is transferred over the DDC link as digital data. That failing is a common problem due to physical issues. Believe it or not, some cheaper VGA cables leave out the DDC signal
[22:35] <corvo> anyway, I obviously canno install dummy package for gambas3-runtime and that bothers yumi's boot, any idea how to solve it?
[22:35] <ubuntu452> TJ-: That could be the case, sadly I'm at home now and that is the PC at work (probably they got a cheap ass VGA cable), any ideas how to fix it not involving changing the cable? (It might take weeks b4 they get the right one and I don't want to have to buy one myself)
[22:37] <TJ-> ubuntu452: you'd have to create custom modelines matching what the monitor can do, and add them to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in a 'Monitor' section, along with an associated 'Screen' section
[22:37] <daftykins> we're talking a couple of pounds,dollars,euros
[22:37] <daftykins> go on, splash out for Christmas :P
[22:37] <ubuntu452> daftykins: I'm cheap too xD
[22:37] <TJ-> ubuntu452: swap the cable from 1 from a Windows PC - it'll never notice - they 'll just blame the drivers :D
[22:37] <ro> Hello. Im trying to wipe a ssd. Im using the command "pv < /dev/zero/ > /dev/sdb" Im getting an eta of 265hrs. Is there any way to speed this up?
[22:38] <TJ-> ro: use the SSD's ATA Secure Erase command. 10 seconds
[22:38] <mcphail> ubuntu452: what graphics driver are you actually using just now? Has the system dropped to the vesa driver? Have you booted with "nomodeset" (which will drop to the vesa driver if there is no proprietary driver installed)?
[22:38] <ubuntu452> TJ-: Hahahahahaha! I don't see many ppl around using windoes machines... It's mostly mac users (they have all their cool cables and stuff)
[22:39] <daftykins> where cool = ridiculous
[22:40] <ubuntu452> mcphail: I literally just installed ubuntu 14.04 today on the machine, it was running 12 something...
[22:40] <mcphail> ubuntu452: what is the native resolution you are looking for?
[22:40] <ubuntu452> daftykins: indeed, sadly they'll probably have to replace *ALL* the cables with the next version of the mac
[22:40] <daftykins> ubuntu452: wouldn't hurt to see a "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[22:41] <ubuntu452> daftykins: can't provide it :( tried sshing over the VPN only to realise that I turned off the machine before leaving work :'((((
[22:41] <daftykins> lol.
[22:42] <daftykins> then what was the faked resolution output you shared earlier?
[22:42] <ubuntu452> daftykins: I was so proud of myself for being a good citizen and turning it off as I left :/
[22:43] <TJ-> ubuntu452: would have been more fun to do it remotely over SSH :p
[22:43] <daftykins> well write it down for tomorrow, install 'pastebinit', run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and write down the link to share here when available
[22:43] <ubuntu452> mcphail: Something nicer than 1024x768
[22:43] <ubuntu452> TJ-: that's what I was hoping for xP
[22:43] <ubuntu452> TJ-: I'll enable wake on lan for next time ^-^
[22:43] <nicomachus> everything is more fun when done remotely over SSH, EXCEPT for distro upgrades.
[22:43] <mcphail> ubuntu452: but what is the res of the monitor?
[22:43] <daftykins> maybe leave it on and double check you installed openssh-server, too...
[22:43] * nicomachus learned the hard way
[22:44] <TJ-> ubuntu452: and don't forget, check the hardware connections, that might be all it needs. I've seen the DDC pins bent inside the connector several times. *gently* prising them back to straight fixes it - but don't snap them!
[22:44] <TJ-> nicomachus: what issues did you have with distr upgrades?
[22:44] <ubuntu452> mcphail: might be something like 1900x... but I'm not 100% sure
[22:45] <ubuntu452> mcphail: I'll check the hardware tomorrow if the VGA cable doesn't work and write the Xorg.conf file by hand to a nicer resolution
[22:45] <nicomachus> TJ-: It was a few months ago. something ended up getting corrupted on the reboot, and I lost the whole HDD because it was all encrypted and couldn't be recovered. It was a loooooong deal.
[22:46] <TJ-> nicomachus: that is where installing dropbear does wonders, especially in the initrd
[22:46] <mcphail> ubuntu452: if it _is_ a 1920x1080 monitor, you can try adding "drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/1920x1080.bin" to your kernel boot line. If you're using radeon or nouveau drivers, that should prompt them to set resolution correctly
[22:46] <daftykins> another win for encryption :D
[22:46] <daftykins> mcphail: intel only so we're told.
[22:46] <ubuntu452> mcphail: no radeon/nouveau drivers, it's intel only (should definitely request a GPU for that thing though...)
[22:46] <nicomachus> TJ-: I just googled dropbear and got a mythical australian koala thing...
[22:47] <mcphail> daftykins: ahh. Haven't tried it on intel, but it should work on any kernel modesetting drivers
[22:47] <nicomachus> ah, this? https://github.com/mkj/dropbear
[22:47] <TJ-> daftykins: encryption can only break if the LUKS header gets its mast key damaged. sectors in the data area being corrupted are just like corrupted sectors anywhere
[22:47] <daftykins> nicomachus: perhaps add linux :P
[22:47] <TJ-> !info dropbear | nicomachus
[22:47] <mcphail> ubuntu452: give it a try anyway. Haven't tested on intel, but worst that will happen will be you'll have to reboot
[22:47] <nicomachus> TJ-: that's exactly what happened to me. the LUKS header key was corrupted and couldn't be recovered.
[22:47] <TJ-> nicomachus: it's statically linked (so binaries are stand-alone)
[22:48] <TJ-> nicomachus: and of course you had created a dump of the LUKS header on some removable media :D
[22:48] <nicomachus> TJ-: Of course!
[22:48] <ubuntu452> mcphail: If I did that, would I get that resolution on all TTYs?
[22:48] <nicomachus> (after that all happened....)
[22:48] <TJ-> nicomachus: stable-door, horse-bolted, !
[22:49] <mcphail> ubuntu452: it should give you the opportunity to set that resolution
[22:49] * nicomachus learns from mistakes, but unfortunately often fails to learn things *before* the mistakes happen
[22:49] <ubuntu452> So, unrelated to what we've discussed so far regarding the intel drivers, how do I improve the resolution of the TTYs in an ubuntu machine?
[22:49] <daftykins> they wouldn't be mistakes if you didn't :>
[22:50] <daftykins> ubuntu452: they're part of the same thing actually, so just focus on checking those things tomorrow
[22:50] <noobstrap> Hello. Installed radeon drivers and ubuntu isn't booting. What logs should I check?
[22:50] <ubuntu452> daftykins: nvm... Just checked this machine's TTY resolution and it's behaving as expected
[22:50] <daftykins> noobstrap: which specifically, 'fglrx' ?
[22:51] <ubuntu452> daftykins: Yeah I'll have a look, thanks guys!
[22:51] <noobstrap> yes
[22:51] <daftykins> see you can't call them radeon, since 'radeon' is also a driver ;)
[22:51] <daftykins> how did you install?
[22:51] <daftykins> which ubuntu are we even talking about? which card too?
[22:51] <noobstrap> from the additional hardware menu
[22:52] <noobstrap> I managed to uninstall the drivers and ubuntu is working again but im interested in making the mwork
[22:52] <daftykins> gonna need the above info then
[22:52] <noobstrap> I'd like to troubleshoot but i don't know which logs to check
[22:53] <mcphail> ubuntu452: I think you can still pass vga modes these days, as well: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/svga.txt
[22:53] <noobstrap> I'm on ubuntu 15.04
[22:53] <daftykins> right and the card?
[22:53] <noobstrap> radeon 6870
[22:53] <daftykins> did you also get offered fglrx-updates to try?
[22:54] <noobstrap> yes i've tried them both
[22:54] <noobstrap> I used to solve this issue in the past by installing the linux headers
[22:54] <noobstrap> but it didn't work this time
[22:55] <daftykins> when it fails, do TTYs work? or do you get everything blank?
[22:55] <noobstrap> it freezes int he ubuntu loading screen and cant swith tty
[22:55] <noobstrap> can only turn off by powerbutton
[22:56] <daftykins> mmm not much luck trying to get any logs out of that then - tried booting with 'quiet splash' removed?
[22:57] <ubuntu452> mcphail: Those look horrible, although it appears to have an 'autodetect' feature... Not brave enough to try that (don't feel like frying the monitor)
[22:57] <noobstrap> ye
[22:59] <noobstrap> don't know where i fucked up, I'm prob gonna fresh install the latest LTS version
[22:59] <daftykins> !language
[22:59] <daftykins> bear in mind AMD just put your card into legacy status
[22:59] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[22:59] <CountryfiedLinux> Does the Ubuntu installer install any closed source drivers by default?
[23:00] <CountryfiedLinux> for graphics
[23:00] <bekks> CountryfiedLinux: no.
[23:00] <CountryfiedLinux> ok cool bekks thanks.
[23:01] <noobstrap> Thanks daftykins, sorry for the language ^_^
[23:05] <daftykins> noobstrap: you could pastebin the output of installing one of the packags, so we can see if the module is built correctly
[23:10] <utio> does anyone know what software i can use to help build css based GTK3 theme ?
[23:10] <utio> I really want to edit the Arc theme which is in .css , but I dont know what the CSS fields are to change the value !!
[23:11] <cuddylier> What is the maximum throughput of a 6Gb/s LSI raid card if I have a systme with PCIe slots?
[23:14] <noobstrap> ok here's the fglrx install output http://pastebin.com/mUpXmXqw
[23:17] <BigMao> Hi there, I'm having a lot of trouble getting larger X11 fonts to work in Ubuntu 14.04. I want to do this by setting the DPI in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Can somebody tell me how to do this?
[23:20] <BigMao> The text scaling factor does not work when the program uses X11 fonts.
[23:22] <dgistando> hello
[23:22] <dgistando> no
[23:23] <dgistando> whats the point?
[23:24] <sector_0> hey guys
[23:24] <sector_0> any idea why my wireless keyboard and mouse combo doesn't work correctly?
[23:24] <sector_0> I plugged in the dongle, and put batteries in the mouse and keyboards, with correct polarity
[23:25] <sector_0> the keyboard work fine as far as I see, but the mouse doesn't work at all
[23:25] <sector_0> when I turn on the mouse, the light flashes couple times and never comes back on
[23:25] <daftykins> not associated perhaps
[23:26] <sector_0> daftykins, what you mean?
[23:29] <OerHeks> If you cannot pair the mouse, sounds like broken, bring it back where you bought it.
[23:29] <daftykins> sector_0: the receiver must be associated with both parts, what make are they?
[23:30] <sector_0> daftykins, OerHeks it's an old model so that's why I'm not too convinced it's a hardware issue
[23:30] <sector_0> I think it might be a driver issue
[23:30] <sector_0> the model is BL-IBM-KM500
[23:30] <sector_0> it's a nipponamerica device
[23:30] <daftykins> well as long as all 3 were used together in the past, they should already be associated
[23:31] <OerHeks> No, i don't think it is a driver problem.
[23:31] <daftykins> agreed, the likelihood 50% of a receiver is working is quite low
[23:32] <TJ-> is it a Bluetooth device, or using its own radio modulation/frequency?
[23:33] <sector_0> TJ-, well it's using 2.4GHz but it doesn't follow the bluetooth standard from what I gather, since my bluetooth dongle don't detect them
[23:34] <daftykins> lol
[23:34] <retrojeff> if /run/user/1000/dconf/user is owned by root the desktop will crash
[23:34] <retrojeff> and cause 100% cpu usage
[23:34] <sector_0> daftykins, well I recently bought it
[23:34] <retrojeff> stuff like mate-panel etc
[23:34] <daftykins> ah so they are not guaranteed to work together
[23:35] <daftykins> sector_0: no buttons on the receiver for sync i take it?
[23:35] <retrojeff> who and what changes /run/user/1000/dconf/user to be owned by root
[23:35] <TJ-> sector_0: if the receiver can't pair with the mouse that points to something outside the OS, unless they are paired but the receiver needs a driver to handle the mouse, but not the keyboard.
[23:35] <sector_0> I mean the real reason I bought it was to replace my old keyboard, the mouse is secondary but it'll be nice to have it
[23:35] <k1l> retrojeff: missusage of sudo and root account?
[23:36] <sector_0> TJ-, well I'm not 100% sure it doesn't "pair"
[23:36] <TJ-> sector_0: their is usually an identifable LED sequence to identify the modes, check the manual
[23:36] <TJ-> s/their/there/
[23:37] <TJ-> sector_0: compare "the light flashes couple times and never comes back on" with what the manual says should be happening
[23:42] <sector_0> TJ-, the manual doesn't say anything about flash patterns
[23:46] <daftykins> sector_0: best advice, test it on a Windows machine
[23:46] <daftykins> no point going to length working it out when you can just check
[23:47] <sector_0> daftykins, I only have access to a windows 8 computer and as is expected....there's no driver
[23:47] <TJ-> sector_0: from what I'm reading, the device presents as standard USB HID devices, so no special OS drivers are required (the standard USB HID class driver is sufficient) so the issue is in the hardware
[23:47] <sector_0> oh well, at least the keyboard's working
[23:48] <daftykins> http://www.nipponamerica.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4719&search=BL-IBM-KM500
[23:53] <OerHeks> sector_0, so you bought it recently, it does not work on windows 8, and you think it is a ubuntu driver issue??
[23:54] <daftykins> i'd put the batteries in backwards :> those things look cheap and nasty
[23:54] <OerHeks> change the keyboard batteries with the ones in the mouse ..
[23:55] <sector_0> OerHeks, in case you haven't realize windows 8 doesn't have drivers for a lot of things
[23:55] <sector_0> especially older hardware
[23:55] <OerHeks> unlikely for keyboards & mice..
[23:55] <daftykins> that's utter rubbish
[23:55] <OerHeks> this is just a waste of time.
[23:55] <Gallomimia> don't worry, windows 8 is open source so you can add any drivers you want. oh wait.... no that's something else
[23:56] <daftykins> it is not a driver issue - check your foolish Windows comments at the door, thanks
[23:56] <sector_0> OerHeks, I know...just saying
[23:57] <sector_0> and besides like I said windows doesn't recognize it as a HID input device so your argument is technically invalid
[23:58] <daftykins> regardless of what you think, not a Windows channel :)
[23:58] <sector_0> anyways scrap the whole discussion, like I said the mouse isn't important, it was just a cheap buy for a keyboard replacement
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[16:05] <flocculant> balloons_: we have lift off \o/ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/packages/Studio/
[16:06] <balloons_> nice1
[16:07] <balloons> I take it there's interest to run these too then? :-)
[16:07] <flocculant> yea
[16:07] * balloons notes his Monday Morning sentences aren't the best
[16:07] <flocculant> I think I linked you to the studio m/l where someone stood up to the plate for testing/qa for them
[16:08] <flocculant> he's pushing to get stuff up so they can test packages
[16:08] <balloons> yes, I read it. I assume this is the outcome, but I trust they will rally folks to also run the tests
[16:09] <flocculant> I hope so
[16:09] <flocculant> at the end of the day imo - if we make it available we can't do more than that
[16:11] <flocculant> I've been finding some odd ones this cycle - pavucontrol mutes when I open it using a xonar sound card - seems to be associated with logitech webcams ... go figure ;)
[16:42] <balloons> whoa.. that's quite specific indeed
[16:45] <flocculant> balloons: yep :)
[16:46] <flocculant> though one of our team saw the same thing - not confirmed he was a logitech webcam yet
[16:46] <flocculant> he definitely doesn't have the xonar sound card
[19:36] <balloons> flocculant, so one thing that needs to happen this week is a list of quality tasks for GCI :-) Would you care to help write a list (regardless of being willing to mentor them)?
[20:36] <flocculant> balloons: can do
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[00:11] * ubrl 2.6.32-042stab102.9 #1 SMP Fri Dec 19 20:34:40 MSK 2014 Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS ruby 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786) [i686-linux]
[01:03] <^k^> 新 虚拟机和虚拟化 • VBOX启动虚拟XP闪退问题,求教 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474131 系统:ubuntu14.04LTS vbox版本:4.3.34 11月27号,到公司提示有更新,也没看就更新了,然后打开VBOX启动虚拟XP,在进入到windows启动进度条的时候,闪退,我VBOX上两个XP都是这样. 回家后家里的机器也提示更
[01:03] <^k^> ─> 新,其中有一个VBOX的更新,是不是跟这个有关系? 现在想是不是装VBOX5.0试试 zz: 躺在桌子上 …
[01:38] <^k^> 新 虚拟机和虚拟化 • VBOX启动虚拟XP闪退问题,求教[已解决] http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474131 系统:ubuntu14.04LTS vbox版本:4.3.34 11月27号,到公司提示有更新,也没看就更新了,然后打开VBOX启动虚拟XP,提示内核不支持(或是不匹配),然后删除VBOX重装,再重启系统,现在进入到windows启动进
[04:01] <MangHuo> 早啊
[04:43] <^k^> 新 课堂教学和培训 • 请教怎么在writer里给文字加拼音？用的fcitx/搜狗输入法 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474132 七年级文字处理里有个加拼音的，百度了一下都是在软键盘里，fcitx的搜狗没找着 在writer里试了一下，有中日韩拼音指南，如果输入字母也是小小的 请教writer里怎
[04:43] <^k^> ─> 么使用拼音？ zz: TeliuTe — 2015-11-30 12:42
[05:01] <MangHuo> cherrot: 赞 http://www.zm7.cn/goods-8913.html?src=emar&cid=5532&wi=NDI2NjM3fDAwOGFkNzlhNzRiNWFkYmI1YzYy
[05:01] <ubrl> MangHuo: ⇪ 尼康 D810 单机身 尼康领军旗舰全幅单反(拆机板）_尼康单反相机_单反相机_卓美网-摄影器材网购优选，经销专业摄影器材，实体店信誉保证
[06:55] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 聊天笑话 : A: 聊的真愉快.....B: 是ㄚ....A: 对了, 你都是在那里连上网路的呀 ?B: 我在家里呀!!A: oh...? 家里也可以连 ??B: 我用 modem 呀!A: oh.....modem 牌电脑可以上网路呀??B: .........A: 怎麽没反应??B: sorry....我刚刚在地上打滚.....
[07:13] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • ubuntu1.04安装 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474133 请教朋友:我原来用vmware7.0.1 安装ubuntu10.04,工作正常,现在想换为vmware10.0.4 安装ubuntu12.04,安装后不能重启,关机后启动也不行,我的计算机用的是XP;我在用vmware7.0.1 安装ubuntu12.04能启动,但与XP的文件共享不能用,并且
[07:13] <^k^> ─> ubuntu显示有点乱,有谁遇到过"vmware10.0.4 安装ubuntu12.04,安装后不能重启"的问题,希望能给我 …
[07:26] <^k^> 新 服务器基础应用 • ssh不自动断开 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474134 ubuntu自带的ssh连接工具,remina remote desktop client能不能设置ssh超时不会断开 zz: 冰谛-王者法则 — 2015-11-30 15:25
[08:21] <^k^> hceasy: 拜哭熊
[09:12] * ubrl 2.6.32-042stab102.9 #1 SMP Fri Dec 19 20:34:40 MSK 2014 Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS ruby 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786) [i686-linux]
[09:42] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 问两个问题 : 今儿出门在大街上走着呢, 突然一个小姑娘拿着一叠纸和笔跑过来对我说:"先生,您要是不介意的话,问两个问题可以吗?" 我想了想说:"可以埃那,你多大啦?叫什么名字呀?"
[09:51] <^k^> 新 笔记本、UMPC支持 • ubuntu 12.10使用电容屏触摸屏的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474135 我在ubuntu12.10下使用触摸屏，电容屏，这个版本的系统内置了触摸屏的驱动，可以直接使用，但有一个问题，有时会出现这样三种情况：在触摸屏上点击桌面上的图标，鼠标指到这个
[10:03] <^k^> 新 Wine及其分支 • 请教用wine运行虾米音乐的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474137 我使用wine运行虾米音乐时总是会卡死。。实在不知道是什么原因，望大家不吝赐教。。 下面是Terminal的输出信息，最后一条就是卡死的时候的输出。。(alias wine32='env WINEPREFIX=~/.wine32 WINEARCH=wi
[10:03] <^k^> ─> n32 wine') allan@allan-Lenovo-V580:~/.xiami$ wine32 /mnt/winsoft/software/Xiami/XMusic/XMusic.exe fixme:msvcp:_Locinf …
[10:37] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[12:19] <^k^> 新 数据库管理 • 安装mesos时候出现的问题，求大神帮帮忙 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474138 截图在下面文件里， whr@whr-Lenovo-G460:/usr/mesos-0.25.0$ ./configure --with-java-home=$JAVA_HOME --prefix=/home/whr/mesos bash: ./configure: 权限不够 才开始玩linux，求大神帮忙看下是什么问题 zz: 海荣elev —
[12:19] <^k^> ─> 2015-11-30 20:16
[12:42] <^k^> 新 数据库管理 • 请教个sql查询问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474139 有两个表 员工表 和 调整记录表，属于一对多关系。结构如下 员工表 --------------------------- 员工ID 姓名 --------------------------- 1 张三 2 李四 3 王五 调整记录表 ------------------------------ ID 员工ID 日期 岗位 ---
[12:42] <^k^> ─> --------------------------- 1 1 2015-6-6 甲车间 2 2 2015-6-6 乙车间 3 3 2015-6-6 丙车间 4 1 2015-10-1 乙车 …
[12:51] <onlylove> 靠，今天一天在单位没爬上来
[12:52] <onlylove> 自从今天用了git reset --hard 之后，再也不改那些看上去很难看的代码了
[13:03] <^k^> 新 Kubuntu • 推荐KDE下的Markdown编辑器和笔记软件Marketo http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474140 软件包下载见： http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Marketo?content=174381 源代码： https://github.com/sadhen/marketo 语言从上到下分别是Python，Scala，Java。根据Fenced Code的类型，编辑器会自动给出相应的高
[13:03] <^k^> ─> 亮。 markpado4.png zz: Sadhen — 2015-11-30 21:02
[13:24] <^k^> 新 其它类软件 • 运用meep http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474141 我是刚刚安装的ubuntu系统，想学习怎么运用meep软件，有没有那个大神能告诉一下 zz: 英豪0_0 — 2015-11-30 21:17
[13:54] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 注册QQ时是否只要是Linux就必须短信验证? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474143 注册QQ时是否只要是Linux就必须短信验证? 好像不论过去多久,在我的Lubuntu上,只要通过网页方式注册QQ,就被要求短信验证 突发奇想,打开虚拟机中的XP,结果注册成功...(但也只是一
[20:05] <Janos> Hi all
[20:05] <ubrl> Janos:点点点. 04:02
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[08:35] <dholbach> good morning
[11:56] <dholbach> jdstrand_: I'm not knowledgeable enough to be able to review https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/click-reviewers-tools/oa-plugin-1520605/+merge/278952 and https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/click-reviewers-tools/oa-framework/+merge/278594 - maybe you or somebody in your team can take a look?
[13:43] <ahayzen> Hi. has anyone noticed that on app startup a white box appears at the top of an app, pushing down the content for a split second? (this is most visible on Music as its dark themed, but I've also seen on messaging app)
[14:34] <davmor2> popey: question, why is there no % button on the calculator?
[14:36] <popey> davmor2, not enough room, and IIRC we figured it's something you can easily calculate
[14:36] <popey> unlike square root
[14:38] <davmor2> popey: this is very you just multiple it by 1.XX where XX is the percentage anything above 100% is just you being ripped off in Britain again right :)
[14:38] <popey> Completely. Please feel free to file for a refund.
[14:38] <davmor2> s/very/very true
[14:39] <popey> All refunds will be processed promptly.
[14:39] <davmor2> popey: no I just wondered if there was a reason, now I know there is I'm happy it's not just been overlooked
[15:02] <mhall119> davmor2: did you want percent, or modulo?
[15:05] <davmor2> mhall119: nearly all calculators come with a % button and I just noticed we didn't have one so thought I'd ask
[15:06] <davmor2> mhall119: I think it is mostly there because the people that used calculators the most were auditors and accounts and they needed to know the % for tax etc
[16:14] <mcphail> jdstrand_: can I annoy you again about the procedure to get a package manually reviewed for inclusion in the store? I have package 4033 which needs access to the SD card, so fails automatic validation. I think my apparmor permissions are the minimal set to achieve this
[17:09] <pmcgowan> bfiller, I think an sms I sent may not have transmitted, any log to check?
[17:09] <bfiller> pmcgowan: possibly dbus.log, salem_ ^^^^
[17:10] <pmcgowan> opps howd I end up n this channel
[17:10] <salem_> pmcgowan, is the message bubble green in messaging-app?
[17:11] <pmcgowan> salem_, no, but this was an outgoing message
[17:11] <pmcgowan> and a min later the screen came on with no message shown
[17:11] <pmcgowan> salem_, sorry
[17:11] <pmcgowan> yes
[17:14] <salem_> pmcgowan, hm, if the buble is green, it means ofono notified the upper layers that the message was sent.
[17:15] <pmcgowan> salem_, the service provider log doesnt show it, pretty sure it didnt go
[17:15] <pmcgowan> salem_, anything else to check?
[17:16] <salem_> pmcgowan, let me see if dbus.log would show something useful. just a sec
[17:17] <salem_> pmcgowan, did you send the message using the indicator? or messaging-app?
[17:18] <pmcgowan> salem_, the app
[17:26] <pmcgowan> salem_, nm I checked and it went
[17:26] <pmcgowan> not sure why my screen keeps coming on though
[17:26] <salem_> pmcgowan, could you run dbus-monitor > log? and wait for the screen to turn on again?
[17:27] <salem_> pmcgowan, also, are you seeing the notification bubble on new text messages?
[17:28] <pmcgowan> salem_, yeah its all fine, except for a diff bug witht the screen coming on
[17:28] <pmcgowan> not related to messages
[17:28] <pmcgowan> but disconcerting
[17:29] <salem_> pmcgowan, ok, I thought it could be the telephony-service-indicator stuck, but it's not related then
[18:53] <mcphail> appdevs - I would appreciate some feedback on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+bug/1521292 . Sorry if it is a bit ranty and incoherent, but I'm feeling a bit ranty and incoherent
[19:47] <pmcgowan> mcphail, looking
[19:51] <mcphail> pmcgowan: ta. We really need a workaround for this
[19:51] <mcphail> jdstrand: thanks for reviewing the app
[19:51] <pmcgowan> yeah its a big hole, came up before
[19:52] <mcphail> pmcgowan: it is a lot of big holes, making up an even bigger one
[20:01] <mcphail> The problem isn't just the read-access paths, but the awful situation where a user can't get data onto the device in the first place
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[06:18] <pitti> Good morning
[07:27] <lpotter> hmmmm
[08:35] <dholbach> good morning
[08:41] <seb128> hey dholbach
[08:43] <dholbach> hi seb128
[08:45] <seb128> dholbach, congrats for the Cc election ;-)
[08:45] <dholbach> thanks :)
[09:09] <zequence> I've uploaded a package (ubuntustudio-meta), but it doesn't seem to be building. Where can I see errors for things like that?
[09:11] <sladen> zequence: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta there was an upload 48 hours ago; is there a newer one aswell?
[09:13] <zequence> sladen: The source is there, but no binaries
[09:15] <sladen> zequence: (if) it is the 0.143, buildlog will be here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta/0.143/+build/8352681
[09:16] <sladen> zequence: but it claims to have built; in which case perhaps you need an archive admin to look into it
[09:17] <zequence> sladen: Right. Thanks!
[09:18] <Mirv> porters: bos01-ppc64el-027 hanged on build (https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-012/+build/8357535), will cancel and retry
[09:20] <Mirv> hmm, I didn't notice it in the snippet but looks like it was ppc64el ICE actually that then didn't really fail (the build status remained building)? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227978020/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-ppc64el.qtscript-opensource-src_5.5.1%2Bdfsg-2build1_CANCELLING.txt.gz < doko
[09:21] <doko> The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.
[09:21] <doko> just retry
[09:23] <Mirv> right, so it says
[12:46] <cjwatson> zequence: it's in NEW, awaiting review
[12:46] <cjwatson> or was
[12:47] <cjwatson> zequence: appears to have been accepted not long before you asked about it
[13:29] <ginggs> didrocks (or anyone else willing to sponsor): suitesparse ready for transition, please remove fop from -proposed, LP: #1518985
[13:31] <didrocks> ginggs: good, removing fop then, one sec
[13:33] <didrocks> ginggs: done, just wait for a publisher cycle to show up
[13:38] <ginggs> didrocks: thanks, are you sponsoring my suitesparse merge as well?
[13:40] <didrocks> ginggs: yeah, I'll have a look shortly
[13:40] <ginggs> didrocks: cool, thanks again!
[13:41] <didrocks> ginggs: thanks to *you*! :)
[14:03] <pitti> cjwatson: is there a LP redirect that would get me the latest .dsc for a given package?
[14:05] <lamont> pitti: you'd have to define "latest" (highest version? most recently uplaoded? published? etc) -- I too would be interested in the answer, but I suspect it's "no, you have to use the api"
[14:05] <pitti> lamont: highest version, yes
[14:06] <pitti> well, it's not too hard for me to figure out the version, but if there was some kind of /+latest.dsc redirect I wouldn't have to
[14:17] <xnox> why is $ pull-debian-source -> not working at all?! =(
[14:17] <xnox> pitti, don't think so, the thing that is shown as "latest" is any latest upload in the ui, rather than highest.
[14:18] * xnox looks at stuff.
[14:20] <xnox> pitti, i think there was a magic url, into which one could plugin e.g. hello_1.2-3.dsc and it would download it, obviously one would have to know the full filename on wants to fetch.
[14:21] <pitti> xnox: ok, thanks; nevermind, it's fine
[14:21] <pitti> chdist --data-dir data/chdist grep-dctrl-sources xenial-amd64 -n -s Package,Version -F Testsuite autopkgtest|paste -sd ' \n' | sed 's/ [0-9]\+:/ /'
[14:21] <pitti> that pretty much gives me what I want -- a list of all sources and their versions which have a test
[14:23] <pitti> and with the version I can use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/$src_$ver.dsc
[14:23] <xnox> aha https://github.com/xnox/apt-mirror/blob/master/apt-mirror-librarian 'https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/' + debfile but yeah, that's to actually download any .dsc from librarian. (possibly pre publish into the apt archive, but not sure)
[14:23] <xnox> yeap.
[14:23] <xnox> that's the url i was thinking about.
[14:24] <juliank> I can't reach launchpad.net (91.189.89.222) - am I the only one?
[14:25] <JanC> works for me
[14:25] <juliank> Seems I have issues here
[14:27] <JanC> wait, I'm on .223
[14:28] <JanC> https://91.189.89.222/ gives me an error page from the reverse proxy
[14:29] <JanC> (for obvious reasons)
[15:10] <xnox> mardy, would the bug #1521226 be of interest to you?
[15:10] <xnox> =)
[15:10] <mardy> xnox: vaguely ;-)
[15:10] * mardy tries to hide
[15:11] <xnox> mardy, it fails on -Wall -Werror stuff with something rather, new glib, gibberish =)
[15:11] <xnox> error: 'g_simple_async_result_propagate_error' is deprecated et.al.
[15:11] <xnox> maybe disabling -werror would be enough for now. or maybe you are up for porting things to the "new" apis.
[15:11] <mardy> xnox: ah, I can't tell you how much I love GLib deprecation policies :-)
[15:15] <seb128> mardy, what an idea to build with Werror
[15:15] <seb128> mardy, at least use -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations ;-)
[15:16] <mardy> seb128: actually, you are right, better get rid of Werror in the first place
[15:16] <mardy> seb128: and I'll add G_GNUC_BEGIN_IGNORE_DEPRECATIONS in the right places
[15:23] <Mirv> xnox: if you don't mind, ignore your fcitx-qt5 sync's problems and let me upload a no-changes rebuild as part of the Qt 5.5 landing this week
[15:26] <xnox> Mirv, i've synced it for very much different reasons. The sync is successful, the failures on power with respect to libxkbcommon are odd, given that libxkbcommon did not change since wily.
[15:27] <xnox> Mirv, that new version has corrected symbols for extra architectures.
[15:27] <Mirv> xnox: yes, I know the problem and that's why it wouldn't need now any changes after I land a synced Qt 5.5 in. it will need a rebuild however since it uses private symbols. the rebuild is already building at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-012/+packages
[15:28] <Mirv> xnox: it's nice it has the symbol updates since I had the older version manually patched before your upload in that PPA
[15:28] <xnox> Mirv, ah cool, thanks for explaining.
[16:13] <juliank> mvo: 1.1.3 is visible on Launchpad now
[16:16] <mvo> juliank: lots go then
[16:16] <juliank> The APT 1.1 Ubuntu party starts :)
[16:17] <juliank> Thanks to pitti for already merging the goplay nmu
[16:18] <pitti> juliank: it wasn't actually a real merge; I synced, then found that weird gcc error, then uploaded a workaround
[16:19] <juliank> pitti: Right, thanks anyway :)
[16:19] <juliank> ppc64el is a strange beast
[16:20] <juliank> We have an even more crazy gcc workaround in apt: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/apt/apt.git/commit/?id=0300f0077af832e87beb290f26b13404cab81fd3
[16:33] <pitti> hah
[16:42] <mvo> juliank: apt and libept are synced now, weeeeeeee
[16:43] <juliank> mvo: Great. python-apt can be synced as well
[16:43] <mvo> juliank: done, woah
[16:43] <mvo> juliank: I'm so excited!
[16:44] <Laney> apt is synced?
[16:44] <Laney> nice!
[16:44] <ricotz> better don't break the world ;P
[16:45] <davmor2> just the rest of the universe ;)
[16:45] <ogra_> who needs apt ... its a snappy future !
[16:46] * davmor2 snaps his fingers....computer is just sat there doing nothing. /me thinks ogra_ lies
[17:06] <jamespage> cjwatson, should have your ubuntu-repository-cache MP landed shortly - the tests where failing due to changes in Juju and the testing framework for the charms
[17:24] <shadeslayer> doko: ping
[17:24] <shadeslayer> doko: Is packagekit being finally updated in Xenial?
[17:40] <juliank> shadeslayer: PackageKit definitely needs to be merged soon for the APT transition at least.
[17:41] <juliank> The first PackageKit to support APT 1.1 is 1.0.11
[17:42] <dobey> pitti: ping. you around? need a manual ack on some autopkgtest issues
[17:52] <zequence> cjwatson: Didn't realize the packages go through review at this stage in development. They usually get published so quickly.
[17:54] <seb128> juliank, packagekit 1.0 was merged and got deleted since we need somebody to port aptdaemon for the api changes first, and somebody to update click to not use the packagekit plugin api since that was removed
[17:54] <seb128> mvo started on the click work but he seems to busy to land it and nobody else knows click enough/has slots for it
[18:17] <shadeslayer> juliank: I see
[18:18] <shadeslayer> juliank: I need it for muon in the next Kubuntu release too
[18:43] <smoser> hey. barry can you verify or suggest work around? it seems that: http_proxy=http://.... pip install something
[18:43] <smoser> on trusty will just not work
[18:43] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13581190/
[18:44] <smoser> i think its related to https://github.com/shazow/urllib3/issues/422
[18:44] <barry> smoser: does it work in xenial?
[18:44] <smoser> yes. and vivid
[18:45] <smoser> i'm just kind of surprised such a thing has lasted so long.
[18:45] <barry> smoser: i can't remember what the state of backports/srus are for the pip stack :/
[18:46] <barry> smoser: this seems familiar, but i don't remember the details
[18:46] <smoser> tox uses pip from the system ?
[18:46] <barry> smoser: i think it may depend on whether sitepackages=true in your tox.ini
[18:47] <barry> well, maybe not
[18:47] <barry> tox probably uses the system virtualenv, which uses the system pip
[18:48] * barry can't understand why https://www.google.com gives an ssl connection error, but only on one fully up-to-date xenial machine
[18:48] <barry> all other https sites seem to work too
[18:50] <sladen> SHA256?
[18:55] <smoser> barry, ok. so it getting python-virtualenv from vivid (python-virtualenv_1.11.6+ds-1_all.deb) fixes it for me.
[18:55] <smoser> i guess virtualenv has an embedded pip that it uses
[18:56] <smoser> hm.. or maybe not as i dont see it.
[19:06] <juliank> mvo: What's the plan with PackageKit and APT 1.1? That needs 1.0.11 or a backport. seb12 8 wrote "we need somebody to port aptdaemon for the api changes first, and somebody to update click to not use the packagekit plugin api since that was removed"
[19:09] <infinity> mvo: I may be late to the party here, but what was wrong with parsing /etc/lsb-release?
[19:10] <juliank> infinity: You're really late ;)
[19:11] <infinity> juliank: Figured. :P
[19:12] <infinity> juliank: I'm assuming (well, hoping) there was also discussion about formalizing CODENAME in the os-release spec, so we're not using a distro-specific extention forever?
[19:12] <juliank> Will the auto-dep-wait stuff automatically be "un"waited? apt 1.1.3 has been built and is pending publications, and python-apt and libept are in dep-wait waiting for it
[19:12] <infinity> juliank: Yeah, it'll unwait once the deps are available. apt's still in NEW, unless someone accepted it when I wasn't looking.
[19:13] <juliank> I at least don't find any mention of NEW on launchpad
[19:14] <infinity> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/1.1.3
[19:14] <infinity> I do. :P
[19:14] <juliank> Oh yeah, on the right side
[19:15] <juliank> Annoyingly, once libept is built, it will also be NEW again
[19:15] <juliank> s/ again//
[19:16] <infinity> Not a big deal.
[19:16] <infinity> I'll give libaptwhatever a quick once-over and get the ball rolling.
[19:16] <infinity> Thanks for proper build-deps, BTW.
[19:16] <infinity> Since I'm doing an out-of-archive bootstrap right now, it's much appreciated.
[19:16] <juliank> Which proper build deps ?
[19:17] <infinity> As in, you're dep-waiting on the new apt, rather than counting on upload timing to get it right.
[19:17] <infinity> So I can't build in the wrong order by accident.
[19:17] <juliank> Yeah
[19:18] <juliank> infinity: I bootstrapped that in Debian experimental, so the deps were needed otherwise the packages would have built with unstable APT :)
[19:20] <smoser> anyone else see this, or is it just lucky me
[19:20] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1521302
[20:12] <stgraber> bdmurray: hmm, how comes that as a coredev working for Canonical I don't have access to crash reports on errors.ubuntu.com?
[20:13] <stgraber> bdmurray: I'm being told I'm not in the right group when I go to https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/9d8b1bc865eba0604b89ca1f7a24f0a1a0186290 and after I do SSO auth
[20:13] <dobey> stgraber: are you in ~ubuntu-bug-control?
[20:16] <stgraber> pretty sure I am, yes
[20:17] <dobey> yeah, that's not it
[20:18] <dobey> i can see that link, so it's some group i'm in, at least :)
[20:23] <dobey> and looking at my teams list, i have no idea which one it'd be
[20:36] <yofel> dobey, stgraber: AFAIK you need to be in https://launchpad.net/~error-tracker-access
[20:36] <dobey> yofel: that doesn't exist
[20:37] <yofel> dobey: huh? The team does exist, I vaguely remember there being an email that you should apply for that to get access when the tracker was initially set up
[20:38] <dobey> yofel: well launchpad gives a 404, and i can't possibly be a member of it, and not be able to see it
[20:38] <yofel> good point..
[20:39] <Unit193> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-June/035321.html Heh.
[20:48] <bdmurray> stgraber: it doesn't look like you are in error-tracker-access
[20:49] <stgraber> bdmurray: can you add me? I sure used to have access to that stuff back in the days ;)
[20:49] <bdmurray> stgraber: fixed now
[20:49] <stgraber> thanks
[20:50] <dobey> so confused
[20:52] <stgraber> dobey: no idea why you have access though :)
[20:53] <dobey> or why trying to view that team gives me a 404
[20:53] <stgraber> it's a private team
[20:53] <stgraber> so that part's normal
[20:53] <stgraber> (and you're not a member of it, just checked)
[20:53] <dobey> private private then i guess
[20:56] <mvo> infinity: lsb-release> ogra_ is unhappy about that python dependency there. and yes, a upstream key would be ideal, but I failed to send a upstream bugreport :/ sorry for that
[22:06] <cjwatson> jamespage: great, thanks
[22:07] <cjwatson> zequence: new package names (source or binary) cause manual review no matter what stage of development we're at
[23:01] <rxcomm> Can anyone point me to documentation on how to use the hashsum.mod module in grub2?
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[10:33] <Myrtti> no idea how that happened...
k1l: thank you. I hate google
[15:56] <k1l> installs google chrome
[16:05] <hggdh> one has to wonder
[21:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Hi, I keep getting banforwarded here from #lubuntu-offtopic.
[21:22] <Pici> oh,
[21:23] <Pici> let me take a look
[21:23] <Pici> SonikkuAmerica: nevermind my #freenode comment
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> got i
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> *it
[21:23] <Pici> hmmm.. gotta investigate this, one moment
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> I haven't been in that channel in ages... I'm suspecting a Kiwi IRC ban maybe?
[21:24] <Pici> yeah, thats what it looks like, need to check my logs
[21:25] <k1l> wasnt there an issue with trolls using kiwi all the time? i am not in that channel but i might have heard such things
[21:26] <Pici> we don't have ubottu in there, so I don't see an entry in our bantracker about it.
[21:26] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l: In #lubuntu-offtopic, not so much, but I remember a global ban from #u at one time.
[21:26] <Pici> I'm going to remove the ban, especially because its a forward to here and we haven't had any weird people (besides SonikkuAmerica) drop by complaining about it.
[21:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Pici: I may need to talk to Unit193 , I'm pretty sure one of his clones is in that channel anyway
[21:27] <Pici> SonikkuAmerica: it is.
[21:27] <Pici> I'll bug him about it later, but for now we'll remove the ban. If for some reason he needs to add it again, so be it.
[21:28] <SonikkuAmerica> kk thanks.
[21:29] <Unit193> k1l is right, it was intended.
[21:30] <Pici> Unit193: so... what now? it seems awfully wide, and like I said we haven't had anyone come in u-ops recently because of this.
[21:31] <Unit193> Has had a few, yeah. They just don't stick.
[21:36] <Unit193> Going with your last statement seems fine anyway.
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[21:17] <imjacobclark> All, why is it that register 7 of an ARM11 has to be used for a syscall number?
[21:17] <imjacobclark> mov r7, $1
[21:17] <imjacobclark> Why is it mov r8, $1 would not work, is r7 reserved for sys calls?
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[09:52] <abakamousa> Bonjour !!!
[16:07] <ariabbas> .
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2015-11-30-#launchpad
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[09:36] <HeOS> cjwatson, hello! As I can see, this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1520281 was committed into repository. Could say, when it will be deployed?
[09:47] <wgrant> HeOS: I'll try to get that deployed (my) tomorrow morning.
[09:48] <HeOS> wgrant, thanks. :)
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[00:08] <mparillo> Generally, the LTS (14.04) and current (15.10) are available directly from kubuntu.org, and I would prefer either to 15.04, however ...
[00:09] <mparillo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.04/release/
[08:51] <Guest52963> slt
[12:36] <dv_> is systray broken in kde5 / kubuntu 15.10? application systray icons dont seem to appear anymore
[12:38] <hateball> dv_: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[12:39] <hateball> that should be an automatic trigger
[12:40] <dv_> hmm. okay
[12:40] <dv_> I had the issue with dropbox last time
[12:41] <hateball> yep that is one such app
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:40] <jubo2> Is there a command that will list all software installed with apt so I can just grab that and use that to 'sudo apt install...' on another system
[15:41] <jubo2> I think I want once again to install clean
[15:41] <jubo2> that or I want to move existing partitions to a bigger hard disk
[15:41] <lordievader> dpkg -l, but you don't want to copy paste that list.
[15:42] <lordievader> Manually installed dependencies won't be uninstalled by apt-get autoremove.
[15:45] <Geowany> jubo2: You can try this: dpkg --get-selections > packages.list
[15:45] <jubo2> ok
[15:45] <Geowany> On another machine, you can install with this command
[15:45] <Geowany> sudo dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.list && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[15:46] <Geowany> It works for me. =)
[15:48] <jubo2> Geowany: Thanks! Saved to ~/Documents/commands/
[15:49] <jubo2> I mean to get some useful command or list of commands on irc and not to make a recording of it in one way or another is just bad manners.. they come back for the same command when they've forgotten it and didn't save it in a retrievable place
[15:51] <BluesKaj> like a cli-commands textfile, everyone should have one
[15:52] <BluesKaj> mine's so old ai have to periodically edit it for commands the no longer apply
[15:53] <BluesKaj> still had some aptitude commands the last tinme I edited
[15:55] <Geowany> When commands are useful for others, I write at our blog of community local. But it is written in portuguese.
[16:39] <jubo2> I want to reinstall clean Kubuntu15 with minimal hassle on this one 500GB disk
[16:41] <jubo2> So I am thinking..
[16:42] <jubo2> get configuration from dpkg on old system
[16:42] <jubo2> install Kubuntu
[16:42] <jubo2> plug in old disk and transfer all of /home to the newly created /home partition via temporary mount
[16:43] <jubo2> and then give the dpkg generated list to the apt to install all apt'able software
[16:44] <jubo2> does this make sense?
[16:51] <jubo2> I need to Gparted it
[16:51] <jubo2> the disk.. It contains some relic Kubuntu14.04LTS 40GB partition
[16:51] <jubo2> or is the KDE partition tool kewler than Gparted?
[16:52] <francis_> Hi! My Ktorrent app always lags. Is it a hardware problem?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> dunno why you don't use separate / and /home partitions, jubo2
[16:53] <BluesKaj> francis_, lags, how?
[16:54] <jubo2> BluesKaj: I use
[16:54] <jubo2> just not in 2014
[16:54] <francis_> Ktorrent always stops
[16:54] <jubo2> so I could just move the partition with dd or instead of mount-and-copy
[16:55] <jubo2> but that doesn't matter does it?
[16:55] <francis_> the app stops, downloading stops
[16:55] <francis_> it automatically resumes though
[16:56] <BluesKaj> `dd will copy, but make sure the of partition is almost the same size ..has to be a bit larger for safety's sake
[16:56] <jubo2> uh-oh.. KDE Partition Editor says about the NTFS: "0 Bytes used"
[16:56] <jubo2> that's not right
[16:56] <jubo2> I just checked it is using 78GB
[16:57] <BluesKaj> francis_, downloading is a function of the torrent sources, most likely not ktorrent itself
[16:58] <jubo2> hmmm...
[16:58] <jubo2> the Live CD has mounted /dev/sda6 as SWAP
[16:58] <jubo2> I don't want this. I want to get rid of those unused Linux partitions
[16:59] <francis_> but Ktorrent hangs quite a lot! I have used it before, it never did before!
[16:59] <jubo2> BluesKaj: Should I be worried / vary of resizing the NTFS disk with any of these tools that report 0 bytes used
[16:59] <BluesKaj> francis_, check your ktorrent internet and speed settings
[17:00] <jubo2> If I know I'm making it big enough to fit all the stuff there
[17:00] <jubo2> francis_: Some operators may throttle p2p network activity
[17:00] <BluesKaj> jubo2, not if you have lots of unused space
[17:00] <BluesKaj> on the ntfs partition
[17:00] <jubo2> It was packed
[17:01] <jubo2> I hit the unpack but cancelled it because it was taking forever
[17:01] <BluesKaj> unpack?
[17:01] <francis_> I'm afraid you really don't understand. the app itself stops. the APP oitself hangs!
[17:01] <francis_> the app itself!
[17:02] <jubo2> BluesKaj: uncompress
[17:02] <BluesKaj> francis_, do you mean it fails to load?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> jubo2, encrypted?
[17:03] <jubo2> BluesKaj: no, just compressed
[17:03] <francis_> It loads, it functions, but it STOPS!
[17:03] <francis_> it hangs!
[17:03] <BluesKaj> francis_, what stops?
[17:03] <francis_> maybe the word "hangs" is only on Windows, not on Linux
[17:03] <BluesKaj> it greys out ?
[17:04] <francis_> sometimes it greys out,
[17:04] <francis_> sometimes totally blank
[17:04] <BluesKaj> hangs means fails to load and start properly
[17:04] <francis_> okay, it loads but then suddenly stops. Only Ktorrent
[17:05] <BluesKaj> francis_, have you updated and upgraded your packages lately ?
[17:05] <francis_> Yes, it did
[17:06] <jubo2> BluesKaj: no install targets for ntfsprogs and ntfs-3g is already the latest version
[17:06] <jubo2> but still cannot resize that disk
[17:06] <BluesKaj> francis_, are you on a work or school network ?
[17:06] <jubo2> except grow it
[17:06] <jubo2> but I want to shrink it
[17:07] <francis_> home
[17:07] <jubo2> I guess I need to boot to Windows and run the uncompression till the end
[17:07] <francis_> i will restart
[17:07] <BluesKaj> jubo2, then shrink the 14.04 partition to make small enough to copy over withdd
[17:07] <francis_> if an extended test on HDD did not detect any error, then my drive has no bad sector?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> jubo2, don't get side tracked , bad sectors are auto skipped
[17:08] <jubo2> I reboot to Kubuntu with the USB hard drive and the to-be-shrunk NTFS in /dev/sda
[17:09] <BluesKaj> jubo2, no need for too many details
[17:09] <jubo2> mi irc logs need an exabyte of details
[18:34] <jubo2> "Ubi-partman failed with exit code 141"
[18:35] <jubo2> I'm trying to install Kubuntu on by the side of Windows
[18:35] <jubo2> I've put /-partition to end of disk, then SWAP and /home in the middle of the disk
[18:35] <jubo2> this way I can grow and shrink the NTFS and the EXT4 partitions as needed
[18:36] <jubo2> could this order have something to do with that ubi-partman failing?
[18:38] <jubo2> could the installation media be defective?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> jubo2, here are some suggestions https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/945027
[18:44] <jubo2> is there a limit how many raw partitions there can be?
[18:45] <jubo2> I'm looking at the situation in KDE Partition Manager
[18:45] <jubo2> and it put the swap and /home on an extended partition
[18:47] <jubo2> BluesKaj: Should I put all needed partitions into an Extended partition?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> jubo2, don't use the kde partition manager , it's buggy , install gparted , use that
[18:48] <jubo2> ok
[18:51] <svend-ev> Good morning
[18:51] <jubo2> g'morning svend-ev
[18:57] <jubo2> I get error from Gparted
[18:57] <jubo2> "mkfs.ext4 -L "" /dev/sda6" (error)
[19:01] <jubo2> is the disk broken?
[19:06] <jubo2> How do I check if the installation media is broken or if the target media is broken?
[19:10] <jubo2> Huhuu?
[19:10] <jubo2> Is there a way to check installation media for errors
[19:10] <jubo2> checksum calculation of some sorts
[19:21] <jubo2> I think that stick is faulty
[19:21] <jubo2> I try another stick
[19:34] <jubo2> yeah.. looks like the stick was faulty
[19:34] <BluesKaj> use dd to copy the iso to the usb stick, it's be bootable
[19:35] <BluesKaj> jubo2,^
[19:36] <BluesKaj> it will be bootable, that is
[19:36] <jubo2> BluesKaj: I did but the stick was faulty
[19:37] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:37] <jubo2> I copied it over an El Capitan installer now and problems are gone
[19:37] <jubo2> ok I did take an dd image of that before I destroyed it
[19:37] <jubo2> who knows how crappy that Cupertino software is
[19:37] <jubo2> maybe I need to isntall it again for mi mum
[19:43] <jubo2> yeah
[19:43] <jubo2> running glitchlessly now
[19:59] <jubo2> damn
[19:59] <jubo2> now I'm getting "Hash Sum Mismatched" running 'sudo apt update'
[19:59] <jubo2> 's bad
[20:02] <jubo2> I ixquick.com for it
[20:07] <jubo2> I didn't find any
[20:07] <jubo2> turned to googel
[20:08] <jubo2> I found advice saying to delete /var/apt/lists/* and run 'sudo apt update' to rebuild
[20:09] <jubo2> sounds legit
[20:10] <jubo2> sorry /var/lib/apt/lists/* I meant
[20:10] <jubo2> I was confusing those with sources.list
[20:11] <jubo2> it's gonna use the repos described in sources.list and rebuild /var/lib/apt/lists
[20:11] <jubo2> I must just say that this was the cleanest of clean installs after the faulty memory stick was discarded
[20:12] <jubo2> so it's kinda weird that I should have wrong checksums
[20:12] <jubo2> First thing I did was open a shell with the K-menu and type 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade'
[20:13] <jubo2> the right thing to do when trying to get the cleanest of the clean installs
[20:13] <jubo2> I don't delete. I move dir
[20:15] <jubo2> done
[20:15] <jubo2> looks to be running fine the most useful computer tip ever: 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade'
[20:16] <BluesKaj> jubo2, I'm surprised you didn't know that command
[20:16] <jubo2> Find the little black screen. Enter the commands with && in between them.
[20:17] <jubo2> "... and here in the K-menu you can find LibreOffice writer you gonna need"
[20:17] <jubo2> ok
[20:17] <jubo2> the system is the latest clean latest
[20:18] <jubo2> now I download from server the file where output of 'dpkg --get-selections > packages.list' is
[20:19] <jubo2> then run the command 'dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.list && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade'
[20:19] <jubo2> Then I copy everything over that /home dir from the old /home dir to get the configs I want
[20:19] <jubo2> not to mention the documents and pics
[20:20] <BluesKaj> so this has become your personal blog for installing kubuntu
[20:22] <shaun__> hi guys my /usr/local is only 239MB its entirely too small and now i cant install anything cause ive run out of space how do i increase the space
[20:22] <jubo2> it's the best
[20:22] <jubo2> shaun__: laptop or desktop?
[20:23] <jubo2> if you have a partition for /usr/local you must make it bigger
[20:23] <_shaun_> laptop. how do i go about it
[20:23] <jubo2> do you have many partitions or just one ?
[20:24] <_shaun_> i think a couple i cant remember how to check
[20:24] <jubo2> _shaun_: I'd get 2.5" migration kit with suitable size HDD or SSD
[20:25] <_shaun_> so theres no other way?
[20:25] <jubo2> Migration kit would include a 2.5" USB-to-SATA enclosure, the hard drive and a software you can use to move your partitions
[20:25] <BluesKaj> _shaun_, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:25] <jubo2> _shaun_: I was just about to suggest what BluesKaj said
[20:26] <_shaun_> my suspicion is pip is installng all its packages there
[20:26] <jubo2> but wouldn't have remembered the command
[20:26] <jubo2> _shaun_: SSD is no longer very expensive
[20:26] <jubo2> and it is faster
[20:27] <jubo2> I totally understand if people take a cheaper 1,000GB HDD then an expensive 512GB SSD
[20:27] <_shaun_> ok i understand, i probably need to figure out how to configure pip to install its stuff elsewhere
[20:28] <_shaun_> ok i need to take the ssd into consideration i wouldnt have thought of it before
[20:28] <jubo2> _shaun_: if you ever feel like changing your HDD for bigger and/or faster just get the kit. You could purchase the USB-to-SATA enclosure separately but you'll pay $20 for it
[20:29] <jubo2> _shaun_: with the kit of enclosure, bigger hard drive you can use the GNU/Linukka standard tools Gparted and dd to do the dirty work
[20:30] <jubo2> or use the supplied by disk maker of the kit
[20:30] <jubo2> _shaun_: with dd you can move the partitions to the new hard drive and with Gparted you can grow them
[20:31] <_shaun_> ok ill do enquiries at the local shops here thanks
[20:31] <BluesKaj> HDD for large data storage, SSD for everyday appd usage
[20:31] <_shaun_> so these partitions can mirate to and fro?
[20:31] <_shaun_> migrate
[20:33] <BluesKaj> !info dd
[20:36] <BluesKaj> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29
[20:42] <juboxi> trying to run 'sudo dpkg --set-selections < packages.2015-11-30.list'
[20:42] <juboxi> I get bunch of lines like 'dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 17: apache2'
[20:43] <juboxi> then at the end of the printout it puts
[20:44] <juboxi> '
[20:44] <juboxi> dpkg: warning: found unknown packages; this might mean the available database
[20:44] <juboxi> is outdated, and needs to be updated through a frontend method
[20:44] <juboxi> I don't get it why wouldn't the dpkg see package 'apache2'
[20:48] <juboxi> this would be simple if I knew what dpkg is and its relation to apt
[20:50] <lordievader> Dpkg is the package manager. Apt is merly used as a way to get the packages to the local system. Dpkg actually installs them and keeps track of what is installed.
[20:50] <juboxi> kewl.. thought so
[20:51] <juboxi> Debian PacKaGe management
[20:51] <juboxi> or something like that
[20:52] <lordievader> !info dpkg
[20:52] <lordievader> Yes.
[20:52] <juboxi> lordievader: there seems to be switches to do with setting and getting available info
[20:53] <juboxi> I don't get this.. Why would it not see that "apache2" is available
[20:53] <juboxi> I want it to rebuild its database of known available products
[20:55] <juboxi> what happens if I run 'sudo dpkg --clear-avail' ?
[20:55] <lordievader> The man page will likely tell you.
[20:58] <juboxi> mmm..
[20:58] <juboxi> installed dselect
[20:58] <juboxi> now gonna attempt to fix problem with 'sudo dselect update'
[21:03] <juboxi> oh yes
[21:03] <juboxi> 'sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade' runs
[21:07] <heinkel_111> I have a machine I have set up as nfs server, and another as nfs client if I can call it that, it mounts a couple of directories exported from the server
[21:07] <heinkel_111> this usually works fine
[21:08] <heinkel_111> but sometimes my network connection drops and then everything freezes
[21:08] <heinkel_111> then I can issue a command to the server: sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
[21:08] <lordievader> heinkel_111: I guess you are using hard mounts, perhaps you need to consider using soft mounts.
[21:09] <heinkel_111> lordievader, thank for the hint, I am not an expert on this
[21:10] <lordievader> heinkel_111: https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8787
[21:10] <heinkel_111> in fact there are a lot of disciplines I do not consider myself an expert in ...
[21:11] <heinkel_111> lordievader: that problem description in the first sentence...it is that
[21:11] <heinkel_111> lordievader: thank you
[21:11] <lordievader> heinkel_111: What do you mean?
[21:12] <heinkel_111> "I have had the situation where I had been using an NFS server when something happened, the client lost connection with the server, and the entire system froze."
[21:13] <heinkel_111> it is written so I understand he is talking about precisely the same problem, even if the information is technically insufficent to confirm that :)
[21:13] <lordievader> Yes. But the actual reason I linked to it, is that it describes the differences between the two methods.
[21:13] <heinkel_111> which was what I neeeded, precisely, thank you
[21:13] <heinkel_111> +:)
[22:00] <nolsen> Is there a way to repair plasma?
[22:01] <nolsen> Because plasma is just constantly failing, killing it and executing it doesn't fix it.
[22:02] <nolsen> These dam segfault errors.
[22:46] <hay207> hi guys, when opening a file named in arabic language from dolphin, it won't open, but i open it instead from the video player
[22:46] <hay207> a media file
[22:49] <bprompt> hmmm w0t?
[22:52] <hay207> i can't open an arabic named file directly from dolphin
[23:00] <bprompt> hay207: how about ... any other file manager?
[23:02] <hay207> give me a minute or two
[23:06] <hay207> bprompt: i tried rox-filler, works normally
[23:08] <hay207> any file, not just a media file, won't open directly from dolphin
[23:08] <hay207> named in arabic
[23:09] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:10] <bprompt> hay207: ok... now ...hmm check rox-filler .desktop file, and dolphin's, they'd be at /usr/share/applications/rox.filler.desktop and /usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop , you might be missing quotes in the Exec= line I"d think, or something is missing from there, that's breaking out on the characters
[23:12] <bprompt> hay207: mine reads -> Exec = dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <---- keep in mind that, %u is the "selected file entries in the window"
[23:13] <hay207> Exec=dolphin %i -caption %c %u
[23:15] <hay207> rox has no desktop icon
[23:15] <bprompt> well, it does, it may just have a different name there
[23:16] <bprompt> window manager menus use it, as well as other menus
[23:16] <hay207> it has no menu item
[23:16] <hay207> i opened rox from terminal
[23:17] <bprompt> hay207: try with --> Exec=dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <--- you can override /usr/share/applications .desktop files by simply using your own at ~/.local/share/applications, so, copy over Dolphin's .desktop and edit it like so
[23:17] <bprompt> hay207: hmmmm pretty sure it'd have one.... tis there somewhere...anyhow... try the edited dolphin's .desktop
[23:18] <bprompt> hay207: try first with "%c" only, if no dice, try then with "%c" "%u"
[23:21] <hay207> so i cp dolphin desktop file to ~/.local?
[23:21] <hay207> and try with %c only?
[23:21] <hay207> cp= copy and paste
[23:22] <bprompt> hay207: try with --> Exec=dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <--- you can override /usr/share/applications .desktop files by simply using your own at ~/.local/share/applications, so, copy over Dolphin's .desktop and edit it like so
[23:22] <bprompt> well, "cp' it, sure, or just drag/drop as well, and then edit the local .desktop
[23:25] <hay207> fails
[23:25] <hay207> let me explain the problem more
[23:26] <hay207> vlc shows error opening ???? <--
[23:29] <bprompt> hay207: which means the %u isn't picking up the full filename
[23:29] <bprompt> hay207: try first with "%c" only, if no dice, try then with "%c" "%u"
[23:29] <hay207> just the arabic name
[23:32] <hay207> no luck
[23:33] <bprompt> hmm
[23:34] <bprompt> hay207: do you have the dolphin in arabic language?
[23:34] <hay207> no
[23:34] <hay207> in english
[23:36] <hay207> i m installing konqueror
[23:38] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:38] <bprompt> k
[23:38] <hay207> same error :(
[23:38] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:39] <hay207> i will fill a bug
[23:39] <hay207> report
[23:41] <bprompt> hmm
[23:41] <bprompt> well
[23:41] <bprompt> hay207: try adding the Arabic Language first, through -> System Settings > Locale > System Languages
[23:42] <hay207> when i add it, some UI elements change to arabic, and
[23:43] <hay207> i see a program in mixed english and arabic
[23:43] <hay207> :)
[23:47] <hay207> ok, thanks bpromptfor trying to help
[23:48] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:50] <bprompt> hay207: was thinking, you can, once it's added, go to the same spot System Settings > Locale > Country/Region & Language > Language <-- tab, to add the arabic language support for kde apps
[23:52] <hay207> As i said, if i added arabic language, i see some programs in mixed english and arabic
[23:54] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:55] <bprompt> well....the issue seems to be something with DCOP in kde apps only
[23:56] <bprompt> doesn't happen to rox-filler or the media player, likely because they're not using the kde dialog subroutine
[23:56] <bprompt> could be a bug, yes
[23:56] <hay207> ok
[23:58] <bprompt> !bug | hay207
[23:59] <bprompt> !cockroaches
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[08:35] <dholbach> good morning
[10:20] <ogra_> mvo, Chipaca, do you guys know if we expose the package version somewhere in the environment of snap services/binaries (i.e. how would my app know it has just been upgraded)
[10:21] <ogra_> i think we need some mechanism to make the package know when it needs to run any confi migration scripts
[10:22] <ogra_> *config
[10:22] <mvo> ogra_: it should be available via SNAP_VERSION
[10:22] <ogra_> ah, thanks !
[10:22] <mvo> ogra_: hm, there was discussion about providing a native hook for this from snappy itself
[10:23] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Computer Security Day! 😃
[10:23] <ogra_> yeah, that would be cool ... but for the moment i can use that var ... (just updating a stamp file and compare on service start)
[10:27] <ogra_> geez, "snappy build" is amazingly slow o armhf :/
[10:27] <ogra_> *on
[10:27] <ogra_> 11min for a package that takes 2min to build on amd64
[10:30] <longsleep> Is /writable/cache somehow used on boot again? I see some service duplication and the only location where the old service file exits is in /writable/cache/system
[10:32] <ogra_> it should be readonly mounted after boot ... but nothing else
[10:32] <ogra_> /writable/cache/system that is
[10:33] <longsleep> ogra_: yes it is mounted ro there, but something seems to copy all the files in there on boot
[10:33] <longsleep> ogra_: could that be?
[10:33] <ogra_> i dont think so
[10:33] <ogra_> it is your "other" readonly partition
[10:34] <longsleep> right - this is very strange
[10:34] <longsleep> i delete a file from /etc/systemd/service and disable the service with systemctl as well, reboot then it is there again
[10:34] <ogra_> probably some generator ?
[10:35] <ogra_> though even that should respect that you disabled it
[10:35] <longsleep> the service comes from a snap - snap is still installed as newer version
[10:35] <longsleep> the version the service gets generated for is not on the disk - at least i cannot find it
[10:36] <longsleep> i see the issue for more than one snap though. It seems like when a builtin snap is updated, the systemd service of the version which is oem is recreated on boot for unknown reason
[10:37] <ogra_> that sounds definitely like a bug
[10:37] <longsleep> ogra_: yeah, though i was unable to figure out how that even happens yet
[10:41] <longsleep> so, before reboot the service was only in /writable/cache/system/etc/systemd/system, after reboot it is in /etc/systemd/system - so something must copy it
[10:43] <ogra_> longsleep, i guess the issue is that it is in /writable/cache/system/etc/systemd/system at all ...
[10:43] <ogra_> thats a readonly system ... no snap should be able to put anything there ever
[10:43] <longsleep> ogra_: true, but those are put there by u-d-f i think
[10:44] <longsleep> ogra_: the snaps are preinstalled with the oem snap
[10:44] <ogra_> hmm, sounds wrong to me to put them in the readonly partition
[10:45] <longsleep> yeah, they will never go away
[10:45] <longsleep> i would be fine with that, but how are they cloned on boot?
[10:45] <longsleep> i mean that causes the problem after all
[10:49] <longsleep> ogra_: i think it is synced in the initrd
[10:51] <ogra_> longsleep, i wouldnt see how
[10:51] <longsleep> ogra_: well, there is some code in the ubuntu-core-rootfs of the initrd which does some copying
[10:51] <ogra_> yes
[10:51] <longsleep> ogra_: maybe i use ancient version again
[10:51] <ogra_> one sec
[10:52] <ogra_> bah, i was hoping for a wrong setting in /etc/system-image/writable-paths ... but seems the cache path is actually hardcoded
[10:53] <ogra_> hmm, k ...
[10:53] <ogra_> the initrd doesnt mount it at all
[10:54] <ogra_> if [ -n "$other" ]; then
[10:54] <ogra_> echo "$other /writable/cache/system auto defaults,ro 0 0" >> "$fstab"
[10:54] <ogra_> fi
[10:54] <longsleep> right
[10:54] <ogra_> thats all it does ... right before run-init
[10:54] <ogra_> so if there is any syncing thats not happening in the initrd
[10:54] <longsleep> maybe it runs into one of the other conditions which do cp -A
[10:55] <longsleep> i mean the file ending up in /etc/systemd/system has the same timestamp as the one in /writable/cache/system/etc/systemd/system
[10:56] <ogra_> well, there must be some systemd unit that copies it
[10:56] <ogra_> when processing fstab
[10:56] <longsleep> ok let me check if i can find something there
[11:33] <longsleep> ogra_: well, i could not find it and now i even removed the file from /writable/cache/system/ and it still gets recreated magically in /etc/systemd/system
[11:33] * longsleep has no idea where it comes from
[11:39] <fgimenez> hi Chipaca, have a minute?
[11:55] <dholbach> mvo, can you (or somebody else) help with https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/click-reviewers-tools/click-reviewers-tools.snappy1604/+merge/278218?
[12:46] <ogra_> Nov 30 13:44:32 aleph2 systemd[1]: Starting minidlna DLNA server...
[12:46] <ogra_> Nov 30 13:44:32 aleph2 ubuntu-core-launcher[26252]: /apps/upnp-server-amd64.sideload/IGccOWeCMeET/minidlnad: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by /apps/upnp-server-amd64.sideload/IGccOWeCMeET/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsnappy.so.1)
[12:46] <ogra_> Nov 30 13:44:32 aleph2 systemd[1]: Reloading.
[12:46] <ogra_> woah
[12:46] <Chipaca> jdstrand_: tyhicks: ping about snapd and ACLs
[12:48] <Chipaca> well, not ACLs, but permissions on the unix socket and SO_PEERCRED
[12:59] <mvo> dholbach: I have a look after the meeting, thanks
[13:00] <longsleep> Chipaca: Hey, maybe you can help me in finding the script which creates snappy systemd services in /etc/systemd/system/ on boot. I have the problem that a service keeps appearing there while that snap version is not installed
[13:01] <mvo> longsleep: do you install something that has a service duing your u-d-f run?
[13:01] <longsleep> mvo: yes
[13:02] <longsleep> mvo: the oem snap has several snaps as built-in
[13:02] <mvo> longsleep: I think there is a bug in u-d-f
[13:02] <longsleep> mvo: when updating those, the old systemd service gets not removed and recreated on boot
[13:02] <longsleep> mvo: yeah that makes sense, though where does u-d-f store the information so the service can actually be recreated
[13:07] <dholbach> mvo, cool, thanks
[13:21] <ogra_> jdstrand_, is the chwon blocking really necessary given we cant actually chown anything outside of the writable area of the snap anyway ? i have massive probs with it atm trying to package something that uses two services which both call fchown/fchown32
[14:39] <tyhicks> Chipaca: hey - I need some more context as I don't know if I've heard anything about that yet
[14:40] <Chipaca> tyhicks: you probably haven't :)
[14:40] <Chipaca> tyhicks: you remember snapd, the snappy daemon that runs as root, that you connect to over a unix socket?
[14:40] <tyhicks> Chipaca: yep
[14:40] <Chipaca> tyhicks: that socket is 0600 root:root right now
[14:41] <Chipaca> tyhicks: wanting to relax that so regular users can connect
[14:41] <Chipaca> tyhicks: so, server uses SO_PEERCREDS on the socket to determine uid, deny access to privileged ops to non-privileged users
[14:41] <tyhicks> ok
[14:42] <Chipaca> tyhicks: would like you or jamie to go over what/how we're doing that before actually lowering the 0600
[14:42] <tyhicks> Chipaca: is there a MP?
[14:43] <Chipaca> tyhicks: the code that does SO_PEERCRED is already in master
[14:43] <Chipaca> tyhicks: 1 sec and i'll point you at the relevant file itself
[14:44] <Chipaca> tyhicks: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/daemon/ucrednet.go
[14:44] <tyhicks> Chipaca: ack, I should be able to have a look in a day or two
[14:44] <Chipaca> tyhicks: that's the wrapper that knows about SO_PEERCRED and uses it to get the uid for unix connections
[14:44] <tyhicks> (maybe today)
[14:45] <Chipaca> tyhicks: and then https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/daemon/daemon.go#L67 checks things before allowing access
[14:46] <tyhicks> ok
[14:46] <Chipaca> tyhicks: it's a rather hackish first pass that stuffs the uid in the RemoteAddr of the transfer, but modulo that it seems sane to me
[14:47] <Chipaca> transport*
[14:47] <Chipaca> tyhicks: yeh, no hurry
[14:47] <Chipaca> well, no hurry beyond the usual :-)
[15:38] <rickspencer3> mvo, can you please give me a link to the correct rolling image for rpi2 if I want to install and test 16.04 rolling?
[15:38] * rickspencer3 notes the web site still points (correctly, I think) to 15.04
[15:39] <mvo> rickspencer3: we don't have a pre-build xenial image right now (unless ogra_ did some for rpi2). you can use ubuntu-device-flash to build an image. maybe it would be a good idea to make a snapshot available for easier testing
[15:40] <rickspencer3> ack
[15:57] <longsleep> so, what other tool on a snappy system can create systemd services for snaps? I still have not found the reason why old services keep appearing on boot. They are not generated by /usr/bin/snappy :/
[16:00] <Chipaca> longsleep: what are the files that won't die?
[16:00] <ogra_> mvo, no, i didnt, i would like us to eventually produce whole images for xenial in an automated way though
[16:01] <ogra_> s/for xenial//
[16:01] <longsleep> Chipaca: i have snaps with services installed via oem built-in - when those get updated everything seems fine. But on reboot the service files reappear in /etc/systemd/system/
[16:02] <longsleep> Chipaca: i have looked and looked but seem unable to find out how these files are generated / where they come from :/
[16:03] <Chipaca> longsleep: you mean you have a snap that you include from oem, that in an update removes a service? or is it services for old versions that appear?
[16:04] <longsleep> Chipaca: spreedbox-led_ledd_0.0.9-4.service is the new service, spreedbox-led_gnatsd_0.0.6-1.service the old. spreedbox-led_gnatsd_0.0.6-1.service is removed after update. Then reboot and spreedbox-led_gnatsd_0.0.6-1.service is there again
[16:05] <longsleep> Chipaca: it is the same problem for all services installed via oem
[16:05] <longsleep> Chipaca: on update, the old service gets removed fine. Then reboot and it is back (and fails to start)
[16:05] <longsleep> Chipaca: what troubles me is that i seem to be unable to figure out where it comes from
[16:06] <Chipaca> longsleep: could i see the output of 'sudo journalctl' on a reboot with these things happening?
[16:06] <Chipaca> longsleep: firstboot is the thing that might be doing that, but it shouldn't be running
[16:07] <longsleep> Chipaca: sure
[16:07] <Chipaca> and ... yeah, it doesn't make sense
[16:09] <longsleep> Chipaca: it says started firstboot setup every time
[16:10] <longsleep> let me check when i remove the firstboot stamp and run it manually
[16:11] <longsleep> Chipaca: no, removing the stamp and running snappy firstboot did not create the service file again
[16:11] <Chipaca> phew
[16:12] <longsleep> Chipaca: i have a patched version of snappy, which adds a custom X- header to the service file when snappy generates it, for the file which keeps reappearing it does not have that header
[16:12] * Chipaca looks up phone numbers of exorcists
[16:12] <longsleep> Chipaca: it is either copied from some place or created from some other tool
[16:12] <Chipaca> longsleep: ooh, nice
[16:12] <Chipaca> ogra_: pingu
[16:12] <ogra_> yo yo
[16:13] <Chipaca> ogra_: is there anything in initrd/early boot that could be copying a service file?
[16:13] <ogra_> no
[16:13] <ogra_> hmm
[16:13] <ogra_> well
[16:13] <longsleep> It also needs to copy it from some place, i have removed all locations below /writable where that file could be found
[16:13] * ogra_ checks something
[16:14] <Chipaca> longsleep: can you mount and see if it's in /etc *under* writable?
[16:14] <longsleep> Chipaca: mount what exactly?
[16:14] <Chipaca> longsleep: umm... system-a? partition #3 iirc
[16:15] <Chipaca> longsleep: on a brand new image
[16:15] <longsleep> Chipaca: sure - hold on
[16:15] <Chipaca> longsleep: (or on a booted one, really)
[16:15] <longsleep> Chipaca: brand new booted one - without upgrading?
[16:15] <Chipaca> longsleep: yep
[16:16] <longsleep> Chipaca: flashing now, takes 70 seconds
[16:16] <Chipaca> longsleep: ok. just mounting the image locally would also work :-)
[16:16] <longsleep> Chipaca: that would not be booted though
[16:17] <Chipaca> ah, sorry i meant booting it or not shouldn't make a difference to that partition
[16:17] <Chipaca> although, having said that, if it _did_ make a difference that'd be interesting in and of itself
[16:17] <ogra_> Chipaca, so the entry for /etc/systemd/system in /etc/system-image/writable-paths is "synced none none" so yes, content from the readonly fs will be synced on boot
[16:17] <longsleep> ah
[16:18] <ogra_> and etc gets processed from initrd
[16:18] <ogra_> (remember, we had to move it because of races)
[16:18] <longsleep> finally the mystery solved!
[16:18] <ogra_> well, the bug is that fragments from snaps are on the readonly partition
[16:19] <ogra_> that shouldnt be
[16:19] <longsleep> /media/longsleep/system-a/etc/systemd/system/spreedbox-led_gnatsd_0.0.6-1.service
[16:19] <longsleep> that is the non booted image
[16:19] <ogra_> right
[16:19] <Chipaca> so the bug is that those are getting created by snappy during the u-d-f unpack/install thing
[16:19] <ogra_> yeah
[16:20] <ogra_> they would have to go into the writable space
[16:20] <longsleep> i see - so this needs fixing in u-d-f
[16:20] <ogra_> since they are from snaps :)
[16:20] <Chipaca> longsleep: in snappy, actually
[16:20] <ogra_> (all of the snaps shuld go into the writable space in fact)
[16:20] <longsleep> Chipaca: right
[16:20] <Chipaca> (u-d-f calls into snappy)
[16:20] <longsleep> Chipaca: so add a flag or something, similar to the existing ones
[16:20] <Chipaca> yep
[16:21] <Chipaca> flag already exists
[16:21] <Chipaca> InhibitHooks
[16:21] <ogra_> Chipaca, but if udf doesnt set up the mounting in a way that the snap bits land in writable places you have lost
[16:21] <ogra_> not necessarily a snappy bug imho
[16:21] <Chipaca> ogra_: the service files should not be created at udf time; firstboot creates them
[16:21] <longsleep> that would be easy to fix
[16:22] <longsleep> so for testing, i could remove the snap services from system-a and then do a boot
[16:22] <longsleep> right?
[16:22] <Chipaca> longsleep: yep
[16:23] * longsleep gives it a try
[16:23] <ogra_> Chipaca, aha ... nontheless, snap fragments should not live in the readonly rootfs
[16:24] <ogra_> and i assume there is no "boot" happening when udf assembles the img ... whihc means if you do anything chrooted in the img you wont have the mountpoints set up
[16:25] <ogra_> (i can be wrong indeed ... just guessing)
[16:25] <longsleep> well, i removed the service files before firstboot, but firstboot did not create them
[16:27] <longsleep> Chipaca: yeah not installing the services in u-d-f is bad as they are not created again and update fails as the service is not loaded
[16:27] <Chipaca> :'-(
[16:27] * Chipaca forgot how to emoticon
[16:28] <longsleep> Where do you want to have the bug for this? github snappy or udf on launchpad?
[16:28] <Chipaca> sergiusens: mvo: ping
[16:28] <Chipaca> longsleep: gimme a sec
[16:29] <Chipaca> so the easy way would be to hack udf to set things up properly
[16:29] <Chipaca> i think a better way would be to make snappy not activate anything from udf, and instead add that to firstboot (which i thought was one of the things oemconfig was doing anyway)
[16:29] <Chipaca> but there might be a reason not to do it this way
[16:29] <longsleep> Chipaca: yeah, i guess we can do that and somehow move the things to writable
[16:30] <Chipaca> hence me pinging mvo and sergiusens :-)
[16:30] <Chipaca> longsleep: writable is there at udf time, just needs bind-mounting properly (or things moved to the right place post hoc, which is tricky because of random cruft in /etc/systemd/system (that shouldn't be there anyway (but I digress)))
[16:31] <ogra_> +1 for firstboot, that is where it belongs
[16:31] <longsleep> Chipaca: so the other cruft in there should stay readonly ?
[16:32] <longsleep> ogra_: yes, though that is unlikely to happen for 15.04 right?
[16:32] <ogra_> yeah, for that the hack might be a better approach
[16:35] <sergiusens> Chipaca, the plan is to move it to firstboot
[16:35] <sergiusens> Chipaca, if you care to create the PR for it, great ;-)
[16:35] <ogra_> the PR ?
[16:36] <sergiusens> ogra_, pull request
[16:36] <ogra_> event planning ? cheerleaders, free food and flyers ? as in public relations ?
[16:36] <ogra_> aahh !
[16:36] <sergiusens> Chipaca, in any case, I'd prefer if the image creator just dropped the snaps (except kernel and os) into a defined location and firstboot do its thing
[16:37] <ogra_> +1
[16:37] <ogra_> isnt that what we do on the phone ?
[16:37] <ogra_> (for custom tarballs)
[16:38] <ogra_> jdstrand, i assume you missed my ping from this morning ?
[16:38] <sergiusens> ogra_, no; sadly no
[16:38] <sergiusens> unless it changed recently
[16:39] <ogra_> oh, i thought we did
[16:39] <ogra_> we really should :)
[16:40] <Chipaca> sergiusens: for 15.04 also?
[16:40] <mvo> Chipaca: sorry, I was in a meeting - so I think the issue that longsleep is seeing is fixed with something like http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/goget-ubuntu-touch/all-snaps/revision/226
[16:40] <mvo> Chipaca: but I think that your idea of installing them on first boot is better, however this won't work for the OS snap (as it needs to be ready for first-boot)
[16:41] <Chipaca> no no
[16:41] <mvo> no?
[16:41] <Chipaca> my idea was *activating* them on first boot
[16:41] <Chipaca> not installing them
[16:41] <Chipaca> in squashfs world that might be the same thing tho :-)
[16:42] <Chipaca> but in 15.04 having the unpack done at build time, and the activation at first boot, seems sane and should be easily doable
[16:42] <Chipaca> but i don't know if we want to, and if there is going to be a release of this
[16:42] <Chipaca> hence, calling you
[16:43] <ogra_> well, we didnt stop doing monthlies for 15.04, did we ?
[16:43] <ogra_> to have the images pick up -security and -updates
[16:45] * Chipaca waits for mvo to confirm that
[16:46] <longsleep> Chipaca: to hack it, where exactly do the files need to go on the writable partition? i see a system-data folder there
[16:47] <longsleep> Chipaca: create etc/systemd/system in there ?
[16:47] <mvo> Chipaca: ups, sorry. indeed, this does make sense. I'm not sure if/when we do a 15.04 release though either, maybe worth bringing up at the next standup?
[16:48] <mvo> longsleep, Chipaca: I need to run very soon to play hockey, however I'm happy to discuss this further tonight/tomorrow
[16:48] <ogra_> mvo, we'll need to sit down tomorrow too to talk about allsnaps and the build system
[16:48] <Chipaca> i'll look at getting a branch up with this
[16:48] <Chipaca> also, we need to get edge working on arm again
[16:48] <mvo> ogra_: sure
[16:49] <Chipaca> and plan the next monthly 1504 (which i think we've slipped, unless time has done its usually stretchy snappy thing)
[16:49] <mvo> Chipaca: yeah, no idea about the test failure right now :/ still need to investigate on a porter machine
[16:49] <longsleep> mvo: sure, i think i understood the problem and might figure out a hack for now - but it would be awesome if there would be a fix for 15.04
[16:49] <Chipaca> mvo: blame ogra_, then he'll fix it :-p
[16:50] <longsleep> mvo: also this one would be nice on https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/issues/189 - we have patched it locally but i guess others might have the issue as well
[16:50] <ogra_> Chipaca, heh, ask davmor2 ... that only works sometimes
[16:50] <Chipaca> longsleep: i can't be sure offhand. easiest way would be to see on upgraded machine what /writable looks like
[16:50] <longsleep> Chipaca: good idea thanks
[16:50] <mvo> longsleep: aa, nice
[16:50] <davmor2> ogra_: no it works all the time, you just go blame the right person :D
[16:53] <longsleep> sync
[16:53] <longsleep> ups :)
[16:55] <rickspencer3> ogra_, are there steps I can follow to make a rolling 16.04 rpi2 image today?
[16:58] <Chipaca> rickspencer3: u-d-f doesn't work?
[16:58] <rickspencer3> Chipaca, I did not say that, I was looking for documentation
[16:59] <rickspencer3> :)
[16:59] <ogra_> rickspencer3, once sec i can give you a cmdline (the rpi püage needs updating for that)
[17:02] <longsleep> Chipaca: ok i got scripting which fixes the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13579233/
[17:02] <longsleep> Chipaca: i think i can add that as a post process step to our image builder
[18:19] <ogra_> rickspencer3, sudo ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --channel edge --oem pi2.canonical --enable-ssh --device raspi2_armhf --output raspi2-rolling.img
[18:19] <ogra_> (sorry, i had not forotten you :) )
[18:19] <ogra_> (and ignore the moaning about azure :) )
[18:55] <jdstrand> Chipaca: hey, fyi, going through old irc (I was on holiday last week). I updated /usr/share/apparmor/easyprof/policygroups/ubuntu-core/15.04/snapd to have /run/snapd.socket in 15.04.12~ppa12 on Nov 13. I looks like stable hasn't been updated since then
[18:57] <Chipaca> jdstrand: a'yup
[18:57] <Chipaca> jdstrand: welcome back to the world of the living, and all that
[18:59] * rickspencer3 tries
[19:03] <Chipaca> ogra_: unless you've uploaded a pi2 since the channels work, that needs to be pi2.canonical/stable
[19:03] <ogra_> Chipaca, really ? udf cares ?
[19:03] <Chipaca> no, it doesn't care, which is why that works :-)
[19:04] <ogra_> ah :)
[19:04] <Chipaca> it's just passing that on to the CPI REST API
[19:04] <ogra_> rickspencer3, ^^
[19:04] <Chipaca> and CPI cares. In fact that's all it cares about ;-)
[19:04] <Chipaca> sudo ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --channel edge --oem pi2.canonical/stable --enable-ssh --device raspi2_armhf --output raspi2-rolling.img
[19:04] <Chipaca> ^ seems to work
[19:04] <rickspencer3> oh
[19:05] <Chipaca> that /stable is a temporary workaround until we get things into the edge channel itself
[19:05] * rickspencer3 tries again ;)
[19:06] * rickspencer3 happily kicks off his "azure" image
[19:08] <rickspencer3> ogra_, Chipaca seemed like it downloaded the parts and built the image quite quickly
[19:08] * rickspencer3 prepares to dd
[19:08] <ogra_> good
[19:08] <rickspencer3> ogra_, just dd it to sbx as per usual, right?
[19:08] <ogra_> yeah
[19:08] <ogra_> all the same for all images :)
[19:10] * rickspencer3 dds and waits
[19:28] <Chipaca> http://people.canonical.com/~john/wow-so-peercred-much-access-levels.gif btw
[19:29] <Chipaca> tyhicks: ^ might be relevant (or not)
[19:34] <tyhicks> Chipaca: that's showing that the access checks aren't working as expected?
[19:34] <Chipaca> tyhicks: no, it's showing that they are
[19:35] <tyhicks> ah, right
[19:35] <Chipaca> tyhicks: in retrospect i should have paused before hitting enter on 'sudo !!'
[19:35] <Chipaca> assuming that is what tripped you up :)
[19:36] <tyhicks> opening up the socket to be world read/write today means that root is still required
[19:36] <tyhicks> yes, I think that is what tripped me up
[19:37] <Chipaca> tyhicks: root is still required <- for privileged operations you mean?
[19:39] <sandGorgon> hey guys... is there a snappy based ISO that I can try out and play with ? I'm looking at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/xenial-desktop-amd64.iso but dont know if it is intended with dpkg or snappy
[19:40] <Chipaca> sandGorgon: not an ISO. What are you wanting to play _on_?
[19:40] <tyhicks> Chipaca: yes - your gif is showing that root is required for privileged operations even though anyone can write to the socket - correct?
[19:40] <Chipaca> tyhicks: correct
[19:40] <tyhicks> got it
[19:41] <sergiusens> elopio, do you feel good about releaseing current master as 0.6?
[19:41] <Chipaca> tyhicks: didn't create the gif just for you, but thought it might be useful for you as well
[19:42] <Chipaca> sandGorgon: the snaps you can download from https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/ work in kvm, or you can dd them onto a sd card or usb stick and boot off of that
[19:42] <sandGorgon> Chipaca, this may sound stupid... but there were all these articles that mentioned that the next version of ubuntu will have a snappy-based flavor . so I was wondering if there were any builds of a desktop version with snappy.
[19:43] <Chipaca> sandGorgon: no, it does not sound stupid
[19:43] <tyhicks> Chipaca: it will be helpful - thanks!
[19:44] <Chipaca> sandGorgon: but things might have been lost in translation / repetition, as as far as I know there isn't a plan to have a snappy desktop version, but to be able to use snappy on the desktop, which is not quite the same
[19:45] <Chipaca> sandGorgon: i don't know how far along those plans are, though
[19:48] <sandGorgon> Chipaca, "Ubuntu 16.04 LTS will be able to run Snappy packages
[19:48] <sandGorgon> Will Cooke, the Ubuntu Desktop lead, announced during a Unity 7 discussion at the Ubuntu Online Summit that they are working to bring Snappy packages to the regular Ubuntu flavor, with Unity 7."
[19:48] <sandGorgon> I was wondering if I could start playing with it on the desktop... but maybe I'm jumping in too early. my bad... I can wait ;)
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: install xenial development branch and apt-cache search snappy
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> and start fool around
[19:49] <Chipaca> sandGorgon: yes, snappy packages, but not a snappy system
[19:49] <sandGorgon> lotuspsychje, will do ;)
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: ive also tested unity8 on xenial
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: also early stage now, so it looks pretty much like the phone version
[19:55] <sandGorgon> lotuspsychje, oh.. is it usable ?
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: yes, mouse support, browsing
[19:56] <sandGorgon> lotuspsychje, ah ok.. i'll survive probably (P.S. im more of a gnome guy)
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> sandGorgon: then test the ubuntu-gnome xenial development branch
[19:58] <sandGorgon> lotuspsychje, that's what's downloading right now
[20:09] <sergiusens> elopio, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/127
[22:03] <jdstrand> sergiusens: catching up on irc backscroll from holiday
[22:03] <jdstrand> < sergiusens> Chipaca, 2015/11/24 08:43:59.067839 security.go:205: [sc-filtergen --include-policy-dir=/var/lib/snappy/seccomp --policy-vendor=ubuntu-core --policy-version=15.04 --template=network-status --policy-groups=networking] failed
[22:04] <jdstrand> sergiusens: you probably figured this out, but --template=network-status is wrong. the template is 'default' (ie, unspecified) and you should use caps: [ network-client, network-status ]
[22:07] <sergiusens> jdstrand, I haven't looked too much into it, it is just related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1519251
[22:13] <jdstrand> sergiusens: based on the sc-filtergen denial, the package yaml is using 'security-template: network-status'. It shouldn't do that
[22:14] <jdstrand> s/denial/error/
[22:16] <jdstrand> Chipaca: fyi, I see in backscroll you pinged me about snapd and ACLs and that tyhicks responded. I will leave that topic to the two of you them
[22:19] <tyhicks> jdstrand: yes, I'm going to review the code
[22:19] <tyhicks> (card already created)
[22:20] <jdstrand> ogra_: re chown for services-- you mentioned massive problems. what are the problems? what are they chowning to? there is nothing they can legitimately chown to other than root, which is the user
[22:21] <jdstrand> ogra_: but to more simply answer your question-- it is a valid point that you need write access to the file to chown it. therefore, it makes some sense to allow these syscalls since apparmor blocks the file access
[22:22] <jdstrand> ogra_: however, we did not allow all of chown yet because we didn't understand the scope of issues at first and because, again, nothing valid to chown to
[22:24] <jdstrand> ogra_: couple that with seccomp arg filtering that we will hopefully have for 16.04. with that we'll say you can chown to 'root' for example (probably fixing your issue but in a different way), but disallow chown to 'nobody' or 'www-data'. if we decide to allow per-app user ids, we'd allow chown to that too
[22:25] <jdstrand> ogra_: but I didn't want to open the floodgates on that just yet, cause apps might hardcode things and do odd stuff, changing ownership to invalid things which might cause unexpected interactions
[22:26] <jdstrand> so proceeding with caution there. but as mentioned, the seccomp arg filtering alone will likely fix the obstacle you are facing
[22:26] <jdstrand> (with the accompanying policy updates)
[22:26] <jdstrand> tyhicks: thanks
[22:28] <ogra_> jdstrand, well, lighttpd and sqlite both only use fchown when they are run as root to chown files to the right UIDs ...
[22:28] <ogra_> and as it happens i'm just assembling something that uses both :)
[22:30] <jdstrand> ogra_: yeah, I talked about sqlite in snappy-app-devel-- I think we should probably patch it. lighthttpd is doing the exact same thing or chowning to some other user?
[22:30] <ogra_> ("to the right UIDs" typically to the UIDs defined in the config file)
[22:30] <jdstrand> what are you putting in that config file?
[22:31] <jdstrand> we don't have per-app user ids yet (see mailing list)
[22:31] <ogra_> well, i'm not really clear what lighttpd does, i cant find any trace of "chown" in the source
[22:32] <ogra_> i indeed dont put a user into that config file ... interesting fact is that lighttpd doesnt complain about fchown on amd64
[22:32] <jdstrand> ogra_: is this a xenial system?
[22:32] <ogra_> amd64 is 15.04 edge ... armhf is xenial edge
[22:33] <jdstrand> ogra_: on the xenial system, you can do the security-override method to unblock you while you investigate. eg:
[22:33] <jdstrand> services:
[22:33] <jdstrand> - name: foo
[22:33] <jdstrand> security-override:
[22:33] <ogra_> i use lighttpd's webdav module ... i guess that links in some sqlite stuff or so
[22:33] <jdstrand> syscalls: [ fchown32, chown, ... ]
[22:33] <jdstrand> perhaps
[22:33] <jdstrand> and sqlite is doing the chown to root unconditionally to root
[22:33] <ogra_> yeah, i had that working at some point (and then threw everything away and started to patch the apps :P )
[22:34] <ogra_> right
[22:34] <ogra_> so it is just a pointless syscall
[22:34] <ogra_> but it is as pointless that we block it imho
[22:35] <jdstrand> well, I don't know about that
[22:35] <ogra_> given you cant chown anything outside of your confinement
[22:35] <jdstrand> I mentioned interactions
[22:37] <ogra_> jdstrand, btw, one thing that struck me ... how do we protect maintainers/developers from spp vulnerabilities ... i mean ... my https runs as root ... since i need to mangle the config it lives in $SNAP_APP_DATA_PATH ... where also my webroot needs to live ... if there is an issue with the webserver someone can just later my config remotely
[22:37] <ogra_> s/spp/app/
[22:37] <ogra_> s/later/alter/
[22:38] <ogra_> i was wondering if there is any way to protect us from such things
[22:39] <jdstrand> ogra_: snappy doesn't help with that. if there is a vulnerability in the app itself and it can scribble out to files, it could overwrite its configuaration, db files, etc. I mentioned this in my email on user ids-- this is one reason to support them
[22:40] <ogra_> oh, so you want to do some extrausers magic on a per-snap base ?
[22:40] <jdstrand> the easiest thing we can do which everyone already understands is allow for opt-in app ids
[22:40] <jdstrand> eg (and this is otoh, not designed or talked about beyond that thread and a couple of conversations):
[22:40] <jdstrand> services:
[22:40] <jdstrand> wait
[22:40] <jdstrand> name: foo
[22:40] <jdstrand> services:
[22:40] <jdstrand> - name: bar
[22:41] <jdstrand> app-user: true
[22:41] <jdstrand> then on install, that create the foo_bar user
[22:41] <jdstrand> creates
[22:41] <ogra_> hmm
[22:41] <jdstrand> that is a sort of 'system' user in that it is passwordless, etc
[22:41] <jdstrand> then the seccomp policy allows chowning to that user, etc
[22:42] <jdstrand> there are other ways to do that
[22:42] <jdstrand> but the basic idea is come up with something that namespaces the users to the package name
[22:42] <ogra_> i wonder if we couldnt teach libnss-extrausers to accept something like a passwd.d/ dir where snaps could drop their snippets
[22:42] <jdstrand> s/snaps/snappy install/ :)
[22:43] <ogra_> :)
[22:43] <jdstrand> app-user: true might be artificially limiting. perhaps a single service wants more than one app user. perhaps the users shouldn't be tied to the service at all, etc
[22:44] <jdstrand> anyway, those are the types of things to work out. I think there are some pretty good reasons for supporting them (see email thread) based on dev input
[22:44] <ogra_> right
[22:46] <jdstrand> maybe this is something we can discuss at the upcoming sprint if there is time
[22:47] <ogra_> the feb. one you mean ? yeah
[22:47] <jdstrand> no, the one I am going to next week :)
[22:47] <ogra_> ah
[22:47] <jdstrand> but sometime this cycle, sure
[23:06] <jdstrand> beuno, pindonga: hey, when is the next scheduled store rollout? I have a big merge to the review tools for all snaps that I'd rather get in sooner this week or wait until after next (and continue with manual reviews until then)
[23:06] <jdstrand> beuno, pindonga: basically, I don't want it hitting on the weekend or while I am sprinting in case I need to react quickly to something
[23:36] <ogra_> jdstrand, oh, btw ... if i put the above into my snapcraft.yaml i get
[23:36] <ogra_> Issues while validating snapcraft.yaml: 'apparmor' is a required property
[23:36] <ogra_> seems security-override wants an apparmor line too
[23:36] <jdstrand> ogra_: I think snapcraft needs to be updated for the new 16.04 yaml
[23:37] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I mentioned this elsewhere, but fyi ^
[23:37] <jdstrand> ogra_: oh, is that click review tools?
[23:37] <jdstrand> ogra_: yes, there is an MP about to land for that
[23:37] <ogra_> might be ... i get it on "snapcaft clean"
[23:37] <jdstrand> ogra_: can you paste the output?
[23:38] <ogra_> well, that was all output
[23:38] <ogra_> root@localhost:/upnp-server# snapcraft clean
[23:38] <ogra_> Issues while validating snapcraft.yaml: 'apparmor' is a required property
[23:38] <ogra_> root@localhost:/upnp-server#
[23:38] <jdstrand> sergiusens: fyi, not sure if snapcraft needs to be updated or not (just fyi)
[23:38] <jdstrand> that sounds like it does
[23:39] <ogra_> yeah
[23:40] * ogra_ still doesnt get why lighttpd behaves different on armhf vs amd64 ... there is no fchown32 call on amd64 it seems
[23:40] <jdstrand> yeah, there will be different syscalls between those
[23:41] <ogra_> well, different, sure ... but having the call on one arch and not on the other ?
[23:41] <jdstrand> fchown and fchown32 are maybe what you need
[23:41] <jdstrand> yeah, that is common
[23:42] <jdstrand> or at least, not uncommon
[23:42] <ogra_> really ?
[23:42] <ogra_> wow
[23:42] <jdstrand> I didn't know that either til having to look at all these
[23:49] <ogra_> oh man
[23:49] * ogra_ slaps forehead
[23:50] <ogra_> so i was seeing the syscall issue on armhf but not on amd64 ... because my snapcraft.yaml has a copy plugin that copies libsqlite to usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu ...
[23:50] * ogra_ blushes
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[06:58] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:29] <pieter2627> morning all
[09:11] <Kilos> morning all
[09:30] <Kerbero> Ahh oom Kilos, goeiemore!
[09:30] <Kilos> hi Kerbero
[09:52] <thatgraemeguy> good aftermornoon
[15:13] <Kilos> hey all you clever peeps are there certain days that flights are cheaper
[15:15] <Kilos> dont all rush to answer at once
[15:15] <Kilos> hehe
[15:23] <MaNI> yes
[15:23] <MaNI> but I can't remember which, mid week and late on sunday usually IIRC
[15:24] <MaNI> to do with when the business people commute
[15:24] <Kilos> oh my
[15:25] <Kilos> this is all strange territory for me
[15:25] <Kilos> and kinda frightening
[16:57] <superfly> Kilos: Sundays and Tuesday / Wednesday I think
[16:58] <Kilos> ty superfly ill check them out too
[16:58] <superfly> Kilos: also, about 3 months in advance
[16:58] <Kilos> i cant do that superfly
[16:59] <Kilos> wanna be there for our 30 anniversary
[16:59] <Kilos> 31 dec is 30 years
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:00] <Kilos> wbb
[17:01] <gremble> In 30 years?
[17:03] <kulelu88> yo
[17:05] <gremble> Hey kulelu88
[17:06] <kulelu88> howzit guys?
[17:07] <gremble> I am well thanks.
[17:07] <gremble> Yourself?
[17:07] <kulelu88> all good
[17:11] <kulelu88> things have been too quiet here
[17:14] <Kilos> hi gremble kulelu88
[17:15] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[17:16] <Kilos> i got a mail about linux sysadmin training for $179 if you interested
[17:17] <Kilos> http://go.linuxfoundation.org/e/6342/tials-of-system-administration/2xvcrl/675584119
[17:22] <gremble> So expensive :o
[17:23] <Kilos> what isnt
[17:23] <Kilos> try buying a plane ticket to the other side of the world
[17:31] <kulelu88> where you going? Kilos
[17:31] <kulelu88> with the exchange rate, that 179 is a bit steep
[17:31] <Kilos> to aus
[17:31] <kulelu88> bad time of the year Kilos . Peak summer in Aus also
[17:32] <Kilos> i love hot weather
[17:32] <Kilos> just the flight costs are killers
[17:32] <Kilos> i wanted t have left already but the visa app taking time
[17:33] <Kilos> if i knew how id go on a cargo plane
[17:33] <kulelu88> try shipping yourself
[17:33] <Kilos> how
[17:34] <kulelu88> speak to DHL
[17:34] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:34] <Kilos> you mean couriers
[17:34] <Kilos> haha
[17:38] <kulelu88> its worth a try
[17:40] <Kilos> ive just looked at their site
[17:40] <Kilos> nothing about shipping peeps
[17:40] <Kilos> but id go that way if it was cheaper
[17:41] <Kilos> 36 hours without food isnt a prob
[18:05] <kulelu88> toilet may be the bigger issue, but they should have toilets on cargo planes
[18:05] <Kilos> unless the pilot is a robot
[18:05] <inetpro> good evenin
[18:05] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[18:06] <Kilos> all well there
[18:06] <inetpro> good, good and there?
[18:06] <Kilos> yes ty
[18:06] <inetpro> you have your visa yet oom Kilos?
[18:06] <Kilos> no man sigh
[18:06] <Kilos> hopefully wednesday
[18:06] <inetpro> ai!
[18:07] <Kilos> i think they trying to stress me to death first
[19:02] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[19:50] <magespawn> good evening
[19:51] <gremble> Hey magespawn
[19:58] <magespawn> hi gremble
[19:58] <magespawn> do you sleep at all?
[20:00] <gremble> I try not to. I'll sleep when I'm old. Right now I have stuff to do
[20:00] <gremble> haha
[20:01] <magespawn> mmm, what is old?
[20:02] <gremble> When I can't do things anymore. Right now it is looking like that'll be 90, since my grandfather is 87 and still going strong.
[20:04] <magespawn> cool beans
[20:05] <gremble> Haha but in seriousness. I work better at night because it is quiet
[20:05] <gremble> So I tend to sleep late
[20:06] <magespawn> i thought maybe there was a specific age
[20:08] <magespawn> ahh, that would work for me too, except the people paying the invoice want me there during day time
[20:08] <gremble> Oh haha. Were you hoping it wasn't yours?
[20:08] <gremble> :P
[20:10] <magespawn> the invoice? no, i was hoping it was mine
[20:11] <gremble> Haha the age. :P
[20:12] <magespawn> ha, no i sill feel the same way
[20:12] <magespawn> s/sill/still
[20:37] <magespawn> time for bed, good night
[20:39] <kulelu88> totsiens mag
[20:39] <kulelu88> magespawn
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2015-11-30-#kubuntu-devel
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[04:42] <Rouge6> is anyone in here alive?
[11:34] <clivejo> Anyone got a vivid install?
[11:36] <mparillo> clivejo: I do.
[11:36] <mparillo> Do you have a test in mind?
[11:37] <clivejo> mparillo: would you try installing calligra 2.9.9 on it please?
[11:37] <clivejo> ppa:clivejo/calligra
[11:37] <mparillo> Sure thing. Logging off now.
[11:59] <marco-parillo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:clivejo/calligra ?
[12:01] <clivejo> sorry marco-parillo I have to pop out, family thing. Will you be about later?
[12:02] <marco-parillo> Yes.
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:40] <sgclark> morning
[13:40] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[13:44] <BluesKaj> couldn't connect wth crad.freenode or dickson. Seems the NA frenode servers in my list aren't responding., but the euro server kornbluth connected ok ...any buzz on the chats about this ?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> card freenode
[13:49] <Guest72345> BluesKaj: Freenode is suffering from (D)DoS attacks again.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Guest72345, ok , don't see anything on the server notifications tho
[13:53] <lordievader> BluesKaj: 27-12:04 [Freenode] -mquin(~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin)- [Global Notice] We are again experiencing connectivity problems to some servers due to DDoS attacks. Please bear with us while we ride it out.
[13:54] * BluesKaj nods
[15:15] <Mirv> heads up I'm planning to land Qt 5.5 possibly tomorrow or anyway this week
[15:15] <Mirv> to xenial
[15:16] <Mirv> kwin, plasma-framework and frameworkintegration being stuck in -proposed will mean though that the Qt will be stuck in -proposed too. is there a plan to get those three through to release pocket?
[15:16] <Mirv> frameworkintegration has been stuck since 2015-11-03, the others are from last week or so
[15:59] <sgclark> Mirv: hopefully yofel can assist. I do not know the process to unstick things in proposed yet.
[15:59] <sgclark> Horrible network problems, heading out to get a new router. bbl.
[16:01] <yofel> Mirv: sorry, I'll try to figure that out today or tomorrow. At least 2 of my plasma uploads were not in the packageset and got rejected, so I need to figure out why that happened.
[16:16] <Mirv> sgclark: yofel: I see a long chain of arm64 build failures, no time to look at those today anymore but I tried triggering a rebuild of some
[16:16] <yofel> oh right, there are those too :/
[16:17] <Mirv> I can handle those dummy rebuilds, you do the actual fixes :) I'll continue tomorrow
[16:19] <yofel> ok, thanks for the help :)
[18:05] <clivejo> I applied for a KDE bouncer and apparently I need a sponser, who do I need to get to sponsor me?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> KDE bouncer?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> clivejo, do you mean an irc bouncer?
[18:44] <clivejo> BluesKaj: yes
[18:44] <BluesKaj> Server: orion.trekweb.org Port: 5709, use SSL
[18:46] <BluesKaj> clivejo, irc://chat.freenode.net/firrre
[18:46] <clivejo> Freenode has been very unstable recently
[18:49] <BluesKaj> clivejo, DDOS attacks today
[18:50] <BluesKaj> clivejo, try #firrre and ask about the znc bouncer
[18:52] <BluesKaj> or here https://firrre.com/
[19:28] <clivejo> sgclark: hows the progress with the merges?
[20:03] <clivejo> mparillo: did you try calligra?
[20:50] <mparillo> I am ready to try. You want it on 15.04?
[21:01] <clivejo> only if you want to
[21:02] <clivejo> I dont have vivid, just packaged it for the fun of it
[21:09] <mparillo> I have pulled up a 15.04 VM, and am happy to try.
[21:10] <mparillo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:clivejo/calligra ?
[21:10] <clivejo> yup
[21:10] <clivejo> and install calligra
[21:11] <clivejo> update the cache too I guess
[21:11] <clivejo> not sure if add-apt-repo does that automatically
[21:13] <vip> clivejo: is https://www.calligra.org/ maintained?
[21:13] <vip> is it calligra homepage?
[21:14] <clivejo> yes
[21:14] <mparillo> Hmm, when I do the update / upgrade, I get new kernals, but no new Calligra.
[21:14] <vip> because I know nothing about it, and first page should say something what it is
[21:15] <clivejo> vip: take the tour
[21:15] <clivejo> it was news to me too, but Ive started to use it
[21:15] <vip> you are joking, right?
[21:15] <clivejo> joking?
[21:16] <vip> yup
[21:16] <clivejo> Learn More > Take the Tour
[21:17] <vip> no, really
[21:17] <vip> maybe you didn't get irony
[21:17] <clivejo> that must be the problem
[21:18] <vip> the first page should have oneliner which should describe the calligra
[21:18] <clivejo> mparillo: did you do a sudo apt-get update ?
[21:19] <vip> nobody will search for "tour" somewhere in menus, he will just leave the page
[21:21] <clivejo> vip: you should mention it in the calligra channel
[21:21] <mparillo> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo apt-get autoremove -y
[21:21] <clivejo> just the update and then install calligra
[21:22] <clivejo> no need to upgrade the entire system just to test it
[21:23] <mparillo> Ahh, I thought I got it simply by adding your PPA and upgrading. I have broken packages, but maybe I need to re-boot.
[21:24] <vip> clivejo: ok (I thought you're involved in calligra)
[21:24] <clivejo> vip: nope, just trying to package it
[22:21] <soee_> hiho
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-br
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[00:00] <astroo-> esta no twitter do freenode
[00:06] <nuno_nunes> mas eu ainda nao fui abaixo :D
[00:06] <astroo-> estas com pressa piada...
[00:07] <nuno_nunes> tirando que não ah telefone e nem net fixa kkkkk
[00:07] <nuno_nunes> :D
[00:07] <nuno_nunes> aqui D:
[00:10] <pikatchu> oq eu faço?? ubuntu funciona, mas o windows 7 deu pau na instalação e eu não tenho dvd dele
[00:11] <nuno_nunes> pikatchu, o quese passou com o windows 7
[00:11] <nuno_nunes> :D
[00:12] <pikatchu> "setup is starting services", dá erro e reboot, nunca entra no windws.
[00:13] <nuno_nunes> ja viu se entra em modo de segurança
[00:13] <pikatchu> não entra
[00:13] <nuno_nunes> explica melhor o teu erro
[00:13] <pikatchu> culpa do erecovery da acer
[00:14] <nuno_nunes> faça o recovery do windows pelo recover
[00:15] <nuno_nunes> a culpa não é o recover é o mau estado do pc
[00:15] <pikatchu> Não consigo fazer recovery pela segunda vez, ele fica no 0% e nunca sai disso
[00:15] <pikatchu> a não ser q eu tente o recovery q formata, mas aí vou perder tudo
[00:15] <nuno_nunes> copia antes :D
[00:15] <nuno_nunes> tudo para um disco externo
[00:16] <pikatchu> 300gb sem ter HD externo
[00:16] <nuno_nunes> a solução é só formatar
[00:17] <nuno_nunes> eu já me deixei de windows 7 :D
[00:17] <pikatchu> a não ser q eu use disco virtual
[00:17] <pikatchu> e faça upload lá
[00:17] <pikatchu> um monte de contas
[00:17] <nuno_nunes> e cabe la tudo
[00:22] <nuno_nunes> eu vou é dormir
[00:29] <Barna> pikatchu, ouve a msg do universo e abandona de vez por todas o ruindows.
[00:30] <pikatchu> eu vou baixar um windows pirata
[00:30] <Barna> o w7 ta numa partição separada da que ta os dados sem backup?
[00:31] <pikatchu> não.
[00:32] <Barna> vc vai tentar recuperar o w7 sem formatar?
[00:33] <pikatchu> sim
[00:34] <Barna> boa sorte e muita luz na sua batalha!
[00:36] <astroo-> pikatchu ve o privado
[00:39] <pikatchu> preciso do windows por causa do photoshop
[00:40] <Barna> eu não. tenho photoshop e bridge no ubuntu sobre wine de boas.
[02:14] <Paulo> oi
[02:14] <Paulo> boa noite
[02:14] <jaqent> Paulo: boa noite
[02:15] <Paulo> alguém ai sabe se tem restrição de remover programas do ubuntu
[02:15] <Paulo> tipo uns que não uso
[02:15] <Paulo> ou tem alguns que não pode remover que quebra a interface
[02:16] <jaqent> Paulo: depende de qual pacote vc quer remover. Alguns podem quebrar sua instalação e outros não
[02:16] <astroo-> ola
[02:17] <Paulo> isso que tenho medo,queria remover uns,mas ta foda
[02:18] <Paulo> quais seriam os que não pode
[02:19] <jaqent> Um monte, mas depende um pouco de como esta o seu ubuntu
[02:19] <jaqent> A sua DE por exemplo pode influenciar bastante na decisão do que vc pode remover sem problemas
[02:19] <hggdh> Paulo: linguagem,porfavor
[02:20] <jaqent> Paulo: se importaria em dizer qual a razão para querer remover os pacotes? Só pra liberar espaço?
[02:21] <Paulo> era só pra deixar ela mais rápido,não que ele não esteja,mas sempre queremos o maximo
[02:22] <jaqent> Nem sempre desinstalar pacotes ajuda muito nesses casos
[02:22] <Paulo> sou novo no linux
[02:23] <jaqent> Paulo: Todos fomos em algum momento :)
[02:23] <Paulo> assim,então melhor deixar do jeito que ta
[02:24] <Paulo> obrigado
[02:24] <jaqent> Se a sua máquina não esta enrroscando não me preocuparia muito com isso
[02:24] <jaqent> Se mesmo assim quiser aliviar um pouco as vezes trocar algumas coisas por outras pode ajudar bastante
[02:25] <Paulo> não esta travando
[02:26] <Paulo> outra coisa,por q o sistema criou 4 GB de swap,se tenho 4 GB de ram
[02:28] <jaqent> Paulo: não sei pq o instalador faz isso por padrão. Antigamente era comum e recomendado até ter uma swap com o mesmo tamanho da quantidade de ram, hj em dia algumas pessoas nem usam mais swap.
[02:29] <Paulo> acho dificil o sistema precisar de mais que 4
[02:30] <Paulo> aqui com navegador aberto e varios programas ta em 1,2
[02:30] <jaqent> Paulo, nem tanto. As vezes o Firefox ou o Chrome com algumas abas abertas chegam a 1GB-1,5GB
[02:31] <Paulo> no windows acontecia
[02:31] <Paulo> no ubuntu não chega a gastar muito
[02:31] <jaqent> Isso acontece no Linux tb dependendo do que vc esta fazendo
[02:33] <jaqent> Paulo, vai depender muito do que vc esta usando. Tem programas que vc pode abrir uma dezena deles e eles vão comer bem pouca memória. Outros vão comer um monte em bem pouco tempo
[02:33] <Paulo> eu não uso pra coisas pesadas,só navegar,auvir algumas ,vc saberia me dizer como se reduz esse swap
[02:34] <jaqent> vc precisa desmontar ela. reduzir a partição e expandir a outra que vai receber o espaço extra. depois remontar ela
[02:35] <Paulo> isso seria via pendrive que ta o ubuntu
[02:36] <jaqent> Paulo: depente como esta o layout de partições. E pra onde vc vai mandar o que vai retirar da swap
[02:38] <Paulo> instalei da maneira simples,selecionei apagar o disco e reinstalar o ubuntu,ele esta como sistema único,então só tem uma partição,ou estou errado
[02:39] <jaqent> Paulo: sinceramente não sei como o ubuntu faz a instalação simples.
[02:39] <jaqent> Vai no terminal e roda o comando lsblk
[02:40] <jaqent> cola a saida dele no http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:40] <jaqent> e passa o link aqui
[02:41] <Paulo> acho que é isso http://paste.ubuntu.com/13569768/
[02:43] <jaqent> Paulo: é desse jeito é melhor fazer pelo live usb
[02:43] <jaqent> No live vc abre o gparted e reduz o tamanho do sda3
[02:44] <jaqent> e depois aumenta o do sda2
[02:44] <Paulo> intendi
[02:45] <Paulo> depois eu vou tentar
[02:45] <jaqent> Paulo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOn5nep7MSY
[02:46] <jaqent> Se quiser ver como é feito, mas é bem tranquilo de se fazer.
[02:47] <Paulo> vou dar uma olhado
[02:47] <Paulo> olhada
[02:47] <Paulo> obrigado
[02:48] <jaqent> Qualquer coisa é só procurar no youtube/google tem uma monte de tutorial do Gparted, e se tiver alguma dúvida só chamar aqui que alguém te responde
[03:51] <pikatchu> como eu faço pra tirar o grub do MBR??
[03:52] <pikatchu> acho q a restauração do windows falha pq eu instalei unbutun e isso deixou o grub lá, só q a restauração não reinstala o windows, ela restaura uma imagem de fábrica, aí o MBR fica do jeito q tá
[03:58] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[12:28] <pikatchu> como eu desinstalo um programa??
[12:29] <pikatchu> instalei warsow e quero tirar
[12:29] <shallwe> pikatchu: bom dia
[12:29] <shallwe> na central de programas do ubuntu
[12:29] <shallwe> abre ela e digita ali warsow que irá aparecer ele e escolha desinstalar
[12:29] <aedigital> ou usando o comando apt-get com os parametros adequados
[12:30] <shallwe> tb, mas umas das coisas que no começo me fez fugir do linux foram as linhas de comando :) depois que fui pegando o jeito
[12:33] <aedigital> yeap
[12:40] <pikatchu> estou há dias tentando recuperar o windows 8 de dentro do ubuntu
[12:41] <mirqui> bom dia
[12:41] <shallwe> pikatchu: vc não esta passando scandisk pelo ubuntu na partição do windows né?
[12:41] <shallwe> bom dia
[12:41] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem?
[12:41] <shallwe> tudo blz
[12:42] <mirqui> isso que serve
[12:42] <pikatchu> eu achei q a recovery partition tinha um iso do windows, mas na verdade ela tem uma imagem e iq eka faz é recuperar a imagem
[12:42] <shallwe> vixi ai não sei, isso é coisa de windows
[12:43] <shallwe> acho que vc vai conseguir resultado melhor se entrar na sala de windows que tem aqui no freenode
[12:45] <pikatchu> acho q o recovery do fabricante não funciona se tiver linux com boot loader
[12:45] <pikatchu> se eu não tivesse instalado ubuntu antes de tentar o recovery, não teria mais SO
[12:45] <pikatchu> nem como baixar um
[12:45] <shallwe> pikatchu: provavelmente
[12:45] <shallwe> isso de instalar linux pra recuperar windows não sei pq as pessoas fazem isso
[12:46] <shallwe> pior ainda é fazer "scandisk" do linux no windows ai ja era
[12:48] <pikatchu> estou apelando pra iso de windows pirata, pq só mesmo com o instalador do windows pra apagar o grub do boot
[13:06] <shallwe> kkk é cada doido que aparece nessa sala
[13:16] <mirqui> <pikatchu , apaga o grub do ubuntu formatando o pc , deixando só zeros no hd
[13:53] <kanazuchi> oi
[14:06] <mirqui> oi , como faço para acessar outras salas?
[14:13] <lynxer10_> bom dia povo
[14:15] <lynxer10_> eu tenho o PI2 uso ele rodando openelec pra multimidia, funciona muito bem.
[14:18] <lynxer10_> vi alguns anuncios no ML por 350/400 conto uhauhauhauh
[16:38] <kanazuchi> pessoas, tem alguma distribuição linux preparada pra configurar um sim card para 3g em placas arm?
[17:12] <hahahaha> Fala galera
[17:13] <hahahaha> Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, Tab lists possible command completions. anywhere else tab lists possible device or file completions
[17:13] <hahahaha> To com esse problema na hora de fszer dua boot
[18:38] <hggdh> kanazuchi: só conheço modems on ARM, não ouvi falar de SIMs
[18:52] <kanazuchi> hggdh na verdade é uma x86 com sim card onboard, preciso fazer funcionar esse slot de sim card
[19:58] <hggdh> kanazuchi: já viste https://gist.github.com/heyalexej/cc6c97b1ea42736b3ff7 ?
[20:21] <mikaandre> Boas
[20:28] <shallwe> boas tarde
[22:00] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:04] <shallwe> olá
[22:06] <astroo-> ola
[22:39] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos
[22:39] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte
[22:39] <nuno_nunes> :)
[23:19] <nuno_nunes> quem precisar de suporte é só dizer
[23:22] <astroo-> ola por enquanto nada
[23:26] <nuno_nunes> astroo-, tu nao precisas dizer nada
[23:26] <astroo-> mau ja pareces o novo governo e so calar
[23:31] <nuno_nunes> digo isso ja sabes pk digo isso
[23:31] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:32] <astroo-> se houver a segunda fase do meu super projeto gratis mudo
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.876910
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-rs
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[18:07] <marestrpc> Ima koga?
[22:16] <laki> poydrav
[22:17] <laki> ima neko vremena da pomogne početniku
[23:27] <LordDVG> laki, postavi pitanje pa mozda neko i pomogne :)
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:22.880628
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[08:35] <dholbach> good morning
[09:25] <Kilos> morning dholbach svij and all others
[09:36] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[10:17] <svij> hi Kilos
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:22.881425
| 2015-11-30T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-desktop
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[06:02] <hikiko> Hello!
[06:19] <pitti> Bonjour tout le monde !
[06:20] <hikiko> hi pitti
[06:20] <pitti> hey hikiko, how are you?
[06:22] <hikiko> I'm fine, thanx pitti, and you? :)
[06:22] <darkxst> hey pitti hikiko
[06:23] <hikiko> hi darkxst how are you?
[06:24] <darkxst> hikiko, I'm good
[06:25] <darkxst> crazy storms here now, one of the chickens just got taken out by a cabbage leaf ;)
[06:25] <pitti> hikiko: quite fine, thanks! had a nice first advent at home
[07:23] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:28] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[07:28] <seb128> pitti, salut pitti, comment ça va !
[07:28] <seb128> today is stollen day, yummy ;-)
[07:28] <seb128> j'ai vu ton msg de hier, merci !
[07:29] <darkxst> hey seb128
[07:29] <seb128> hey darkxst
[07:29] <darkxst> gnome-user-share update is on ubuntu-desktop ppa
[07:30] <darkxst> though I don't think I can even actually break anything when 3.0.4 was completely broken everywhere!
[07:32] <seb128> how broken?
[07:32] <darkxst> seb128, completely
[07:32] <seb128> since when?
[07:32] <seb128> I don't even remember what it's supposed to do
[07:33] <seb128> webdav shares?
[07:33] <darkxst> webdav would have been broken since apache 2.4
[07:34] <darkxst> the other bit handling bluetooth push, had broken notifications
[07:34] <seb128> lol
[07:34] <seb128> apache 2.4 was there before trusty
[07:34] <seb128> tells how many users try the webdav thing :p
[07:34] <seb128> I wonder if we should still try to SRU a fix
[07:44] <darkxst> seb128, could sru the apcache fixes
[07:45] <seb128> darkxst, btw why 3.14 and not 3.18? it seems that 3.18 only have translations updates compared to the previous one
[07:46] <darkxst> seb128, 3.18 drops all bluetooth
[07:46] <seb128> oh, they removed obexpush support
[07:47] <seb128> it was removed in a point update apparently
[07:47] <seb128> https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-user-share/tree/NEWS
[07:47] <seb128> go GNOME
[07:51] <darkxst> seb128, I didnt see any value going past 3.14
[07:52] <darkxst> seb128, and that NEWS is wrong 3.14.2 still has the obexpush
[08:09] <seb128> darkxst, k, wfm
[08:09] <seb128> hey didrocks!
[08:09] <seb128> you managed to connect!
[08:09] <hikiko> ep hi seb128 and didrocks :)
[08:10] <seb128> hey hikiko
[08:12] <didrocks> hey seb128, hikiko!
[08:12] <hikiko> :D
[08:12] <didrocks> seems freenode decided to rejoin servers!
[08:12] <darkxst> seb128, k, I will upload, even if there are regressions, its far better than what is there now
[08:12] <seb128> darkxst, +1
[08:12] <didrocks> I had my own #ubuntu-desktop for a while <3
[08:12] <seb128> thanks for working on the update
[08:14] <darkxst> didrocks, what use is your own irc channel ;)
[08:14] <hikiko> hahaha netsplit?
[08:14] <didrocks> darkxst: at least, nobody to contradict me! :p
[08:21] <pitti> oh, I'm back!
[08:21] <pitti> so again -- bonjour seb128 !
[08:22] <didrocks> wb pitti! tu as aussi des problèmes sur freenode ?
[08:22] <pitti> didrocks: ça va didrocks !
[08:22] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[08:22] <pitti> J'ai eu cettes problèmes vendredi, mais aujourd'hui mon server était cassé
[08:22] <didrocks> ah :/
[08:23] <pitti> didrocks: ça va bien, merci ! nous avons eu un bon week-end et premier avent
[08:23] <pitti> seb128: avez-vous goûté le stollen ? :-)
[08:24] <seb128> hey pitti
[08:24] <seb128> pitti, oui, miam, il est très bon ! merci pour le msg hier ;-)
[08:24] <pitti> didrocks: nous avons en manger au prochaine week-end aussi !
[08:25] <didrocks> pitti: \o/
[08:25] * pitti donnes des accolades à didrocks et seb128
[08:25] <pitti> "donne"
[08:25] * didrocks donne une accolade en retour à pitti
[08:26] * seb128 donne des accolades à didrocks et pitti également
[08:26] * didrocks fait de même à seb128
[08:29] <pitti> hugfest!
[08:43] <seb128> Mirv, hey, are you working on landing the new qt to xenial?
[08:44] <Mirv> seb128: hi, yes, do you need something?
[08:45] <seb128> Mirv, no, just curious to know what's going on since I saw a few "no change rebuild" branches for e.g settings
[08:46] <seb128> Mirv, also it seems buggy that clock has to drop the use of audioroles in preparation of an update, it means the update is going to be abi incompatible and break apps in the store?!
[08:51] <Mirv> seb128: right, we've gone through all store apps because of that. the incompatibility is because we shipped something that was not submitted or accepted by upstream. when upstream accepted a version of the branch, we were already shipping our version for _stable_ users which is of course what should never happen. people should now know for better, and we agreed on this approach for the audio role prob
[08:52] <Mirv> lem. the clock actually was to be patched first so that it supports both old and new, but it was argued that it shouldn't use the feature at all so it was dropped instead.
[08:55] <seb128> Mirv, k
[08:55] <Trevinho> Morning
[08:55] <Mirv> seb128: well actually, it almost happened with QML Playlist again but I intervened the diverging from upstream and rc-proposed now has everything ported to the real upstream version of that one and two more bits are being upstreamed... these things happen when people change Qt without consulting with me :)
[08:55] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[08:55] <Trevinho> Hi seb128
[08:55] <seb128> Trevinho, how are you?
[08:55] <seb128> had a good w.e?
[08:56] <seb128> I was looking for you on friday but I can't remember why now :p
[08:57] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, I missed the ping... in the afternoon I was out for a while...
[08:57] <seb128> Trevinho, no worry, I think it was about your new nautilus patch
[08:57] <Trevinho> seb128: well, weekend passed. Nothing special. Just friends
[08:58] <seb128> Trevinho, is that still needed since the copy dialog is not a standalone dialog anymore
[08:58] <Trevinho> seb128: the last one was for the dialogs such as "empty trash" or, "want to overwrite this"?
[08:58] <Trevinho> Which might not be shown on top
[08:59] <willcooke> morning all
[08:59] <Trevinho> morning willcooke
[08:59] <Trevinho> I also think I forgot to add another improvement I had in mind... But now it's lost :-(
[09:00] <seb128> Trevinho, I see
[09:00] <seb128> hey willcooke
[09:01] <Laney> hey hey
[09:02] <seb128> hey Laney, you are early today!
[09:02] <seb128> had a good w.e?
[09:05] <Laney> YEP!
[09:05] <Laney> we went to the cat cafe
[09:05] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:09] <Laney> hey pitti!
[09:10] <hikiko> hi Laney :)
[09:10] <hikiko> wtf disconnect every 2 minutes
[09:10] <Laney> good thanks, tea + #ubuntu-desktop, what more could anybody want?
[09:10] <Laney> how are you?
[09:10] <Laney> hi hikiko! how's it going?
[09:10] <hikiko> fine :D you?
[09:11] <pitti> Laney: good stollen along with the tea, of course!
[09:11] <Laney> suuuuuuuper
[09:11] <Laney> glad I didn't have to commute anywhere in the rain
[09:11] <Laney> seb128: good weekend for you too?
[09:12] <Laney> ha, it's that time
[09:12] <Laney> need to get some
[09:13] <seb128> Laney, yes! played tennis on saturday (there was a 3 hours round-playing event organized, quite some people came) and had dinner with friends and played board games in the evening
[09:13] <Laney> sounds nice!
[09:13] <seb128> sunday a bit less exciting, cold and rainy day, we went to ikea and did nothing special otherwise
[09:14] <Laney> we played "ghost stories" too but got defeated in about 30 minutes
[09:14] <Laney> stupid ghosts
[09:14] <seb128> haha
[09:14] <seb128> oh, and like pitti we had some good stollen :-)
[09:15] <willcooke> Trevinho, seb128 - how are you guys fixed for a run through of the remaining rls-x-incoming bugs today?
[09:15] <larsu_> good morning!
[09:16] <willcooke> morning larsu_
[09:16] <Trevinho> hi larsu_
[09:16] <hikiko> hi larsu_
[09:16] <Trevinho> willcooke: oh, right... Yeah, I should do it
[09:16] <seb128> willcooke, should be fine, do you have a timeslot in mind?
[09:16] <seb128> hey larsu! wie gehts?
[09:16] <willcooke> Trevinho, seb128 how does 10am UTC (45 mins from now) work?
[09:17] <Trevinho> willcooke: ok
[09:17] <seb128> good for me
[09:17] <willcooke> desktoppers: get involved ^
[09:17] <willcooke> I'll put a HO link up later
[09:18] <willcooke> hrm, my internet is slow. Gonna reboot some gear...
[09:19] <larsu> morning willcooke, Trevinho, hikiko and seb128!
[09:19] <larsu> I'm great thanks :)
[09:19] <larsu> in a train again, back home
[09:19] <seb128> where did you spend the w.e?
[09:20] <seb128> Trevinho, https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/add-timestamp-operations/+merge/278748 ... is there any reason to not try to upstream it?
[09:20] <larsu> seb128: Hamburg
[09:20] <larsu> how are you all?
[09:20] <Trevinho> seb128: no, in fact I wanted to propose it
[09:20] <darkxst> hey willcooke
[09:20] <darkxst> and larsu
[09:20] <seb128> Trevinho, could you do it and update the patch header?
[09:20] <larsu> hey darkxst
[09:20] <Trevinho> seb128: well, maybe for upstream some more refactoring is doable
[09:20] <seb128> Trevinho, also it would be good if there was some bug reference linked, so we know why we ship the patch
[09:20] <Trevinho> but it was something I was considering
[09:20] <seb128> larsu, good!
[09:21] <Trevinho> seb128: didn't I do it? I thought i had
[09:21] <Trevinho> or I didn't push it yet
[09:21] <seb128> Trevinho, sorry, it's in the header
[09:21] <seb128> just not linked to the mp
[09:21] <seb128> Trevinho, would be good if you opened the upstream bug, even if you don't have a patch yet
[09:21] <Trevinho> seb128: ah In my local copy I've https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1445595
[09:21] <Trevinho> but I probably didn't push it
[09:22] <Laney> is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1417980 meant to be targeted?
[09:22] <Laney> after the discussion last week
[09:22] <seb128> willcooke, ^
[09:22] <RAOF> seb128: You're welcome to sponsor colord-gtk to Debian if you'd like a new version soon :). It's got some binary NEW, so can't be source-uploaded; pitti's sid schroot is AWOL and my system decided to explode on Friday.
[09:22] <larsu> hi Laney!
[09:23] <pitti> RAOF: oh, my schroot is back, mvo fixed apt
[09:23] <pitti> RAOF: so I can sponsor it now
[09:23] <Laney> oh hi larsu, missed you coming in
[09:23] <RAOF> pitti: Ah, sweet.
[09:23] * Laney doesn't read up far enough
[09:23] <Laney> how was train-destination-land?
[09:23] <seb128> RAOF, hey, seems pitti is on it, good ;-)
[09:23] <willcooke> seb128, Laney - good call, I'll untarget
[09:24] * RAOF is still not *entirely* sure how the W10 update killed all booting, but I can now boot into Ubuntu at least.
[09:25] <larsu> Laney: very nice! Gotta say Sweet5hark wasn't lying about Hamburg ;)
[09:25] * RAOF also got to discover why my backups had been failing for the last couple of weeks! All manner of fun!
[09:25] <Laney> I know nothing about this place
[09:26] * Sweet5hark looks at backlog.
[09:26] <larsu> hehe :)
[09:27] <willcooke> seb128, hrm, unsure how to untarget. Do I remove the Xenial entry for each "Affects" package?
[09:27] <seb128> willcooke, correct
[09:27] <pitti> RAOF: uploaded
[09:27] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark
[09:28] <Sweet5hark> larsu: I thus assume you're in hamburg? welcome to the hanseatic city of olympic denial then!
[09:29] <larsu> Sweet5hark: hahaha! Ya I spent the weekend there with my girlfriend
[09:29] <larsu> she's working there for a couple of weeks
[09:29] <larsu> but I'm on my way back now
[09:31] <Sweet5hark> I guess you had a good variety of weather to go along: from (winter) sunshine to (mild) storm flood ...
[09:31] <larsu> indeed
[09:31] <larsu> managed to get some time for some walks through the city though
[09:31] <larsu> which was nice
[09:32] <larsu> (mostly st pauli and schanze though)
[09:32] <larsu> those advertisments for pro olympia sure looked sad this morning :)
[09:34] <Sweet5hark> pauli and schanze are a good choice for a walk.
[09:36] * larsu quite likes pauli
[09:43] <Sweet5hark> mvo: around?
[09:44] <mvo> Sweet5hark: yes
[09:46] <Trevinho> seb128: in https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity/update-apport-hook/+merge/278774 upstart log for the "unity" package is added by default?
[09:47] <seb128> Trevinho, there is no upstart job in the "unity" binary
[09:48] <seb128> Trevinho, unity7.conf is in libunity-core-6.0-9
[09:48] <Sweet5hark> mvo: heya! I recently looked at the snapcraft docs -- A few questions that left me with: 1/ There are multiple "parts" to a build. Is there a way to declare dependencies between these? 2/ In general I missed info about the exact order in which the different steps (fetch, build, stage) are intended to be executed. Is it fetchA fetchB buidA buildB stageA stageB or fetchA buildA stageA fetchB buildB ...?
[09:48] <seb128> Trevinho, and yes if there was one it would be added
[09:49] <Trevinho> seb128: oh right /usr/share/upstart/sessions/unity7.conf is provided by libunity-core-6.0-9...
[09:49] <Trevinho> That's a mistake though :o
[09:49] <Trevinho> shouldn't that be in unity package? together with source_unity.py?
[09:50] <Trevinho> wow libunity-core provides so many unrelated thigns...
[09:50] <seb128> I was a bit surprised to find it there as well
[09:51] <Trevinho> mhmhmh... I think we should move those to "unity" or an unity-common pkg, isn't it?
[09:51] <Trevinho> err unity-data
[09:51] <Trevinho> it contains even the icons... o_O
[09:51] <mvo> Sweet5hark: 1> you can use the "after" keyword to specify order 2> hm, if that is not documented sergio is the best person to talk to, we should add it to the docs. I don't know the answer myself without looking but iirc its fetchA, fetchB....
[09:52] <seb128> hey mvo
[09:52] <seb128> mvo, didn't land the new apt on friday after all? ;-)
[09:52] <seb128> Trevinho, yeah, unsure what's going on there
[09:52] <seb128> Trevinho, maybe didrocks remembers
[09:52] <seb128> Trevinho, also I remember now why I wanted to talk to you on friday!
[09:53] <mvo> seb128: yeah, there was a unexpected regression on ubuntu due to our ld flags
[09:53] <Trevinho> A possibility might be because libunitycore might need some gsettings schema, but that's the only thing I might think
[09:53] <seb128> mvo, oh, ok
[09:53] <seb128> Trevinho, could we drop the gconf backend?
[09:53] <mvo> seb128: the -Bsymbolic- stuff broke but its fixed now
[09:53] <mvo> seb128: so will happen today once debian accepts the 1.1.3 upload
[09:54] <seb128> k
[09:54] <Trevinho> seb128: indeed
[09:54] <seb128> Trevinho, is that a "yes"? ;-)
[09:55] <Trevinho> seb128: it's a YES!
[09:55] <seb128> \o/
[09:55] <seb128> let's do it then!
[09:55] <Trevinho> seb128: do you want the pleasure?
[09:56] <seb128> Trevinho, not especially, you can have the honors
[09:56] <Trevinho> mh, ok...
[09:56] <Trevinho> However new gtest broke our builds of unity and compiz...
[09:56] <seb128> thanks :-)
[09:56] <seb128> oh :-(
[09:56] <Trevinho> and well, for unity there's a workaround, but the compiz issue seems something we can't fix locally
[09:58] <seb128> do we need to revert the gtest update?
[09:58] <willcooke> just making tea, will get the HO up in a mo....
[09:58] <willcooke> seb128, Trevinho ^
[09:58] <Trevinho> k
[10:00] <Sweet5hark> mvo: thx. TBH, I havent yet worked with this hands-on, but wanted to share my n00b feedback from reading the docs before doing that ...
[10:01] <mvo> Sweet5hark: thanks, I am not the best person for snapcraft, sergio is the better one but I will pass your feedback on :)
[10:01] <Sweet5hark> mvo: k
[10:05] <willcooke> Trevinho, seb128 - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/will-cooke
[10:06] <willcooke> desktoppers: anyone who wants in on the rls-x-incoming remaining bugs triage ^^
[10:07] <willcooke> list: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[10:08] <davmor2> willcooke: see now I got this image of the desktop team as bobble heads on a desk, desktoppers :)
[10:49] <willcooke> logging out and back in test my sticky edges ;)
[10:56] <davmor2> willcooke: don't let your kids near the screen with jammy fingers I think will help with that :)
[10:57] <willcooke> badum tish
[11:11] <didrocks> seb128: argh, doko-style is bleeding out
[11:11] <didrocks> seb128: steve has done an Unity upload (rebuild) without merging back to trunk
[11:12] <seb128> I think some (including Steve) thinks no change uploads are fine
[11:12] <seb128> since you can overwrite/drop those
[11:13] <Laney> I always do those
[11:13] <seb128> see ;-)
[11:13] <seb128> it's a bit annoying
[11:13] <seb128> I regularly got bitten by those, pull from the vcs, do you change, commit, push, build, dput
[11:13] <seb128> get a reject email
[11:13] <didrocks> I wonder if the force option is still available in CI Train?
[11:13] <didrocks> (if it is, fine)
[11:13] <seb128> uncommit, merge back upload, et
[11:13] <seb128> yes
[11:15] <Laney> wait
[11:15] <Laney> dput?
[11:15] <Laney> for train stuff?
[11:16] <Trevinho> seb128: the patch is updated with upstream bug now
[11:16] <seb128> Trevinho, thanks!
[11:16] <seb128> Laney, no, I was more speaking about $vcs, not specific to CI train
[11:17] <Laney> oh right, was speaking about train only
[11:17] <Laney> try to remember to commit to normal vcs
[11:17] <seb128> :-)
[11:28] <didrocks> Trevinho: Unity FTBFS on xenial (latest release), do you know about it? (I guess yeah, you may even have a silo prepared, but asking ;))
[11:29] <Trevinho> didrocks: yeah, I was saying this before
[11:29] <Trevinho> didrocks: I think new google mocks / tests broke both unity and compiz
[11:29] <Trevinho> didrocks: Not sure why unity fails (it complains about an unused variable defined by a google tests macro)
[11:30] <Trevinho> while compiz fails because of google-xorg-gtests..
[11:30] <Trevinho> So.... It would be better to get that fixed at those levels
[11:30] <didrocks> (simple variables being defined but not used)
[11:32] <didrocks> Trevinho: are you looking into this?
[11:32] <seb128> bah, GTK tables
[11:32] <seb128> larsu, help!
[11:33] <seb128> larsu, assuming you don't have apache2-bin installed, can you start gnome-file-share-properties and tell me if there is much spacing around the first label?
[11:34] <seb128> editing /usr/share/gnome-user-share/file-share-properties.ui it and playing a bit with it, I think it makes space for the label as if it was wrapping
[11:34] <Trevinho> didrocks: not yet... I will
[11:34] <larsu> seb128: the spacing looks good to me...
[11:35] <Trevinho> didrocks: as the not used variable is weird because they are inside a macro, which I'd expect to be "perfect"...
[11:35] <seb128> larsu, :-(
[11:36] <seb128> larsu, nothing like https://launchpadlibrarian.net/160084656/Screenshot%20from%202013-12-18%2005%3A50%3A58.png then?
[11:36] <seb128> weird
[11:36] <larsu> ah
[11:36] <larsu> yeah I have that
[11:36] <larsu> I thought you meant horizontally
[11:36] <larsu> and tbh, I didn't even notice this flaw - I thought it's a placeholder for a larger widget
[11:37] <seb128> no, vertical, sorry
[11:37] <larsu> ya, same issue here then
[11:37] <didrocks> Trevinho: email sent about this, please have a look :)
[11:37] <Trevinho> didrocks: ok, thanks
[11:39] <seb128> larsu, if you remove the x_options">GTK_SHRINK | GTK_FILL of webdav_info the labels is short and wrap on that height
[11:39] <seb128> so I guess it's using that height computation
[11:39] <seb128> but not adapting when doing the filling
[11:40] <seb128> larsu, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/user.png
[11:40] <seb128> what's the right way to fix that?
[11:41] <seb128> setting a label width in char fixes it
[11:41] <seb128> but then the width is matching the number not the window
[11:41] <larsu> hm, this is weird indeed
[11:42] <didrocks> Trevinho: thanks! (at least, you have context now ;))
[11:42] <seb128> larsu, I guess upstream would say to port from GtkTable to GtkGrid
[11:42] <seb128> just wondering if you know of a cheap trick
[11:43] <larsu> ya, clearly :)
[11:43] <larsu> trying a couple right now :)
[11:43] <seb128> thanks
[11:43] <larsu> I wonder why removing the x-options makes it shrink vertically
[11:43] <Trevinho> didrocks: mh, I didn't get the mail I think, was it in a ML?
[11:43] <seb128> it does
[11:44] <seb128> http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/user.png
[11:44] <seb128> doesn't
[11:44] <seb128> sorry
[11:44] <seb128> it shrinks horizontally
[11:45] <larsu> right
[11:45] <larsu> seems like gtktable wasn't tested properly with gtklabel
[11:46] <larsu> and doesn't listen to all the new propoerties
[11:49] <larsu> seb128: ya turning off wrapping makes it work
[11:49] <larsu> but then it doesn't wrap :)
[11:51] <larsu> I think you should do what we did in all the other cases: set a width-request
[11:51] <larsu> to something reasonable
[11:51] <larsu> or port to gtkgrid :P
[11:51] <larsu> seb128: going to the gym and lunch now. Can help more later if you need
[12:02] <seb128> larsu, thanks, I just wanted to know if I overlooked something obvious
[12:02] <seb128> larsu, enjoy lunch&gym!
[12:14] <didrocks> bah, forced to remove and readd a printer so that it's detected
[12:14] <seb128> tiiiilll
[12:25] <andyrock> good morning all
[12:28] <Trevinho> seb128: how can I propose a distro-patch for gtest? I don't see a xenial branch... So should I just open a bug and attach the patch?
[12:28] <Trevinho> or the debdiff
[12:28] <seb128> Trevinho, yes, bug + debdiff
[12:28] <seb128> hey andyrock
[12:34] <seb128> happyaron, hey, any news of the ibus update?
[12:42] <Trevinho> seb128: what ! dpkg-source: Errore: cannot represent change to gtest_1.7.0.orig.tar.bz2: binary file contents changed :o
[12:42] <seb128> Trevinho, did you change binary files?
[12:42] <Trevinho> nope...
[12:42] <seb128> is that a clean tree?
[12:42] <Trevinho> not changed till may '14
[12:43] <Trevinho> I added a patch and I was about to create te deb src
[12:43] <Trevinho> ...
[12:43] <seb128> weird
[12:43] <seb128> try from a fresh unpack
[12:43] <seb128> it doesn't tell you what files in the log?
[12:44] <Trevinho> Mh, i try..
[12:44] <Trevinho> but the md5sum matches with the old .dsc
[12:49] <Trevinho> seb128: mh, now it goes... But... It complains about the maintainer not being an ubuntu one... Should I become it?
[12:50] <Trevinho> seb128: also, should I set the proper release in changelog or unreleased?
[12:51] <didrocks> Trevinho: use "DEBEMAIL=foo debuild/bzr"…
[12:51] <Trevinho> nice trick
[12:52] <didrocks> that will disable the check for building your package
[12:52] <Laney> $ update-maintainer
[12:52] <Laney> it's right to update it for ubuntu uploads
[12:53] <Laney> (...please forward this fix upstream first...)
[12:54] <Trevinho> Laney: it's taken from upstream
[12:54] <didrocks> Laney: sometimes the projects have some @canonical address (unsure which package he's speaking about as I keep timing out), and yeah, it will still complain :p
[12:55] <Trevinho> I've an ubuntu one, I'm just not an ubuntu dev...
[12:55] <didrocks> Laney: I remember to have sent a patch ages ago, but I don't remember the reason for the rejection (I guess it was something like we shouldn't have @canonical in maintainer field)
[12:55] <didrocks> but that was pre-unity and such
[12:56] <Laney> This is gtest
[12:57] <Trevinho> Uffffff... No still binary diff...
[12:57] <Trevinho> I didn't change the binary! :-(
[12:57] <seb128> Trevinho, I think https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/export-active-locations/+merge/278730 is buggy :-/
[12:57] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah?
[12:58] <seb128> Trevinho, if I do "nautilus -q; nautilus; ctrl-W" I get
[12:58] <seb128> ERROR:nautilus-window-slot.c:2425:nautilus_window_slot_get_location: assertion failed: (slot != NULL)
[12:58] <didrocks> ah, yeah, so update-maintainer if this will go in distro
[12:58] <seb128> seems to not happen without that patch
[12:58] <Trevinho> Mh, ah... I should protect on that
[12:58] <Trevinho> I thought I added
[12:58] <seb128> it works if you close with the mouse
[12:58] <seb128> but not with ctrl-W
[12:58] <Trevinho> yeah, as probably it takes some time to update the active slot in that case
[12:58] <Trevinho> so it might fail
[12:59] <seb128> can you please work on a fix for it when you are done with the other things you are doing?
[12:59] <seb128> no hurry but we should fix before uploading 3.18
[12:59] * Trevinho goes to lunch, then back to the debian packaging lands....
[12:59] * seb128 is going for lunch
[12:59] <seb128> hehe
[12:59] <seb128> Trevinho, enjoy!
[12:59] <Trevinho> :)
[12:59] <Trevinho> you too
[13:01] <didrocks> Trevinho: no issue with gtests here, you didn't try a local build first, just unpack/apply your patch/build?
[13:01] <didrocks> (if so, please pastebin it)
[13:05] <happyaron> seb128: will upload shortly, didn't have my yubikey with me during day time (for pgp key)
[13:10] <Laney> hi didrocks!
[13:10] <didrocks> \o/
[13:10] <didrocks> phew
[13:10] <didrocks> I wonder if some server didn't blacklist some IP range if they received some DDOS last week
[13:10] <didrocks> and maybe my ISP is in the range…
[13:11] <asac> heya, is there any "safe/high quality" ppa to get cmake 3.x on 14.04?
[13:14] <asac> didrocks: ?
[13:15] <didrocks> asac: I'm currently looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=cmake if I see anything high-standard/trusted
[13:15] <didrocks> (as it's not in trusty-backport)
[13:19] <didrocks> asac: ok, the only ppa I would trust in this list (and which has cmake >= 3.0 on 14.04 LTS) is https://launchpad.net/~smspillaz/+archive/ubuntu/cmake-master
[13:19] <didrocks> from our previous compiz maintainer :)
[13:20] <didrocks> (and still updating)
[13:27] <asac> hmmm... ok
[15:01] <willcooke> Laney knows all the best servers
[15:01] <Trevinho> seb128: as for the export-active-locations nautilus branch, is uncommit/overwrite fine or want a new branch or what?
[15:02] <seb128> Trevinho, new branch please, there were other changes commited to the vcs since
[15:02] <Trevinho> k
[15:08] <Trevinho> seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/export-active-locations-warning-fix/+merge/278983
[15:08] <mterry> seb128, didrocks: fyi, I uploaded a new deja-dup this weekend, and dropped duplicity down to a Suggests
[15:09] <xnox> does, or does not, desktop own e.g. bug #1521226
[15:09] <Trevinho> mterry: what's using now? :o
[15:09] <xnox> desrt, ^ looks glibish.
[15:09] <mterry> Trevinho, say what?
[15:09] <didrocks> mterry: yeah, I saw that, great! :)
[15:09] <seb128> xnox, talk to mardy
[15:09] <didrocks> mterry: fyi, I again had some issue with duplicity today though :/
[15:09] <Trevinho> mterry: I mean, isn't using duplicity anymore?
[15:10] <xnox> seb128, which timezone is that in, usually?
[15:10] <xnox> or different channel?
[15:10] <seb128> xnox, mardy? european, he's on #ubuntu-devel
[15:10] <mterry> Trevinho, it still uses duplicity, it just can install it on demand if necessary
[15:10] <desrt> bonne journee, tout le monde!
[15:10] <mterry> Trevinho, but this way, we don't have to ship it on the image (helping us avoid python2 on default installs)
[15:10] <didrocks> bonjour desrt !
[15:10] <desrt> je suis en montreal!
[15:11] <seb128> salut desrt!
[15:11] <seb128> desrt, passe le bonjour à Xavier
[15:11] <desrt> xclaesse: ^ :)
[15:11] <Trevinho> mterry: ah, ok... That's what I was wondering in a second thought :)
[15:11] * didrocks shows up his missing space between "t" and "!"
[15:11] <seb128> mterry, you could have written a bit of a description of what changed in the new upstream version
[15:11] <seb128> mterry, does it fix the control center segfault?
[15:12] <mterry> seb128, ah right! I forgot it fixed that or would have looked for a bug. Do we have a bug for that yet?
[15:12] <xnox> seb128, thanks that worked =)
[15:12] <seb128> xnox, yw!
[15:13] <seb128> mterry, bug #1443876 seems to match the e.u.c reports
[15:14] <xclaesse> seb128, salut :)
[15:14] <seb128> xclaesse, lut ;-)
[15:17] <willcooke> My clock looks different. Maybe font related Laney? Do you see anything different?
[15:17] <willcooke> trying to put my finger on what's changed...
[15:17] * didrocks pictures willcooke pointing at his screen
[15:18] <seb128> willcooke, screenshot?
[15:18] <davmor2> willcooke: on phone or desktop?
[15:19] <willcooke> davmor2, desktop, natch
[15:20] <davmor2> willcooke: looks the same here, I ask because phone changed it's top bar slightly to look more like desktop so that can throw you slightly
[15:21] <willcooke> http://imgur.com/El3rkBL
[15:22] <davmor2> willcooke: ah mine looks slightly different cause I have the date and seconds on mine but the hours and minute look the same as mine
[15:25] <davmor2> willcooke: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/clock.png
[15:26] <willcooke> davmor2, ah yes. If you turn on "Date and month" the font size increases slightly
[15:27] <willcooke> by the looks of things
[15:27] <willcooke> but on 14.04 the font stays the same size
[15:30] <willcooke> seb128, can you try this again and if it looks better in Radiance now I will put a MP up for it
[15:30] <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/notebooktabs
[15:30] <seb128> willcooke, ok
[15:30] <willcooke> seb128, no hurry
[15:31] <willcooke> larsu, also low priority - check this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/gtk2scrollbartrough
[15:32] <willcooke> my gnome-terminal one is pretty much ready as well, but before I lose track of where I am I'd like those others out the way
[15:34] <Trevinho> larsu: could you upload https://launchpadlibrarian.net/228006749/gtest_1.7.0-4ubuntu1.dsc.diff ?
[15:34] <Trevinho> err see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtest/+bug/1521177
[15:34] <Trevinho> s/larsu/Laney/ ^
[15:34] * Trevinho didn't tab enough times... :P
[15:52] <didrocks> didn't take any break today, I guess it's time to sign off :)
[15:52] <didrocks> see you tomorrow guys!
[15:52] <willcooke> cya didrocks
[15:52] <didrocks> see you willcooke!
[15:54] <larsu> willcooke: shouldn't we change the color of gtk 3 scrollbars as well?
[15:55] <willcooke> ah, I left those because of the overlay SBs
[15:55] <willcooke> but yeah, we should
[15:55] <willcooke> lemme sort that
[15:55] <larsu> thanks
[16:09] <flocculant> mpt: I commented in detail on the bug - but gedit gives me thin if I choose light, both in xubuntu and ubuntu
[16:09] <mpt> thanks
[16:15] <Laney> willcooke: it looks like it's a bit squashed
[16:15] <Laney> file it ubuntu-bug ubuntu-font-family-sources
[16:17] <willcooke> thx Laney
[16:29] * Laney juju destroy-service appstream-dep11 && redeploy
[16:30] <Laney> so changes, much broken
[16:31] <willcooke> seb128, on your Inspiron, are you seeing wifi and BT getting disable and not re-enabled on suspend/resume a lot? Not every time, but 1 in 2 or so
[16:32] <seb128> willcooke, never paid attention with bluetooth but I had issues with wifi where I need to reboot to have aps listed yes
[16:33] <willcooke> I guess a kernel issue. I'll log a bug
[16:35] <seb128> thanks
[16:54] <larsu> seb128: did you end up fixing that sharing window?
[16:55] <seb128> larsu, not yet, got carried on other things, I'm just probably going to set a width of 60 chars or something
[16:55] <larsu> sounds reasonable to me
[16:56] <larsu> is that still maintained?
[16:56] <seb128> yes
[16:56] <seb128> well "maintained"
[16:56] <seb128> the webdav thing works fine
[16:56] <seb128> and upstream moved the obexpush out
[16:56] * larsu nods
[16:56] <seb128> they updated if for the new apache some time ago
[16:57] <seb128> and hadess does roll tarballs with translations updates
[16:57] <seb128> oh, mvo uploading the new apt
[16:57] <seb128> I hear that the new apt is cool ;-)
[16:58] <mvo> seb128: its the best!
[16:58] <seb128> :-)
[17:33] <Trevinho> seb128: can you check https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1521177 ?
[17:33] <Trevinho> (upload the patch, I mean :P)
[17:34] <seb128> Trevinho, lookin
[17:43] <seb128> Trevinho, did you forward the change to Debian? we are in sync with them and would be nice to keep it like that if we can
[17:44] <seb128> Trevinho, also you have a debian/patches/patch which I guess can be cleaned out?
[17:46] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, right
[17:46] <Trevinho> that patch was a temp
[17:46] <Trevinho> seb128: how can I forward that? /me newbie
[17:47] <seb128> Trevinho, https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
[17:48] <seb128> you might want to configure reportbug or something
[17:48] <seb128> I use email
[17:48] <seb128> send to [email protected]
[17:48] <seb128> Package: <package
[17:48] <seb128> Version: <version>
[17:48] <seb128> and you type your description
[17:48] <seb128> with an appropriate title
[17:58] <seb128> Trevinho, I cleaned the patch file and uploaded to unblock Unity, please still forward to Debian then so maybe we can sync back later
[17:59] <seb128> and on that note I'm calling it a day
[17:59] <seb128> have a nice evening desktopers!
[17:59] <willcooke> see ya seb128
[17:59] <Trevinho> seb128: thanks, have a nice evening!
[17:59] <timppa_> Hi
[18:00] <timppa_> currently on Ubuntu 16.04 and I'd like to create some launchers on Mir/Unity8
[18:01] <timppa_> are there any guides available on doing such things? :D
[18:01] <timppa_> basically to run legacy X11 apps
[18:02] <seb128> willcooke, btw your notebook theme tweaks is better, no side impact on other widgets, I'm unsure I like it though, it's good when the windows is unfocussed but a bit too strong on active windows imho
[18:02] <seb128> like you get 3 different colors for titlebar, focussed tab, unfocussed
[18:03] <willcooke> oki, that's good to know
[18:03] <willcooke> I found having the active tab the same colour as the title bar was too dark
[18:04] <willcooke> let's get Design input :)
[18:06] <seb128> willcooke, well, at least you have something working, they can give us a better color value to use if that's all what needs changing now
[18:06] <seb128> on that note really calling it a day
[18:06] <seb128> night
[18:06] <willcooke> seb128, yeah, and easy to tweak in the inspector
[18:08] <willcooke> g'night seb128
[18:08] <larsu> seb128: night!
[18:17] <Sweet5hark> oh, there's freenode!
[18:17] <Laney> byeee
[18:18] <willcooke> night Laney
[18:18] <willcooke> I'm going afk until Robert wakes up
[19:49] <robert_ancell> willcooke, bug 1287640
[19:49] <willcooke> thanks robert_ancell
[19:51] <willcooke> rather looks like: http://41.media.tumblr.com/7860aa18a1086834a05942dcc486c8cc/tumblr_n218vvbOsu1so2h9go1_1280.jpg
[20:17] <robert_ancell> willcooke, hah
[20:18] <larsu> morning robert_ancell!
[20:19] <larsu> how are you?
[20:19] <robert_ancell> larsu, good, yourself?
[20:19] <robert_ancell> Up late?
[20:19] <larsu> robert_ancell: great. Had a train trip and gym + long lunch this afternoon, so I'm catching up a bit now
[20:28] <robert_ancell> Chipaca, is the repository for snappy on github?
[20:29] <Chipaca> robert_ancell: yes
[20:29] <robert_ancell> Chipaca, so lp:snappy is n/a?
[20:29] <Chipaca> robert_ancell: github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy
[20:30] <Chipaca> robert_ancell: i'm not sure how often it's synced back
[20:30] <robert_ancell> Chipaca, also, is there a PPA to install daily builds?
[20:30] <Chipaca> yes, the tools ppa, 1 sec
[20:30] <Chipaca> https://launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+archive/ubuntu/tools
[20:30] <robert_ancell> Chipaca, awesome, thanks!
[20:31] <Chipaca> robert_ancell: we've had a ftbfs in arm for the last few days, needs digging
[20:31] <Chipaca> robert_ancell: and xenial has dailies, or should have
[20:32] <robert_ancell> Chipaca, yeah, they look like they've built fine
[20:37] <willcooke> g'nigth all
[20:37] <willcooke> spelling!
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[02:54] <tsimonq2> well, got a good portion of them done
[16:15] <flocculant> jjfrv8: remember the pavucontrol mute bug? here it's related to logitech webcam - same with someone else on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93108 - same for you? If not could you comment on it :)
[22:01] <cajuntechie> Hi everyone. Quick question: My C++ chops are really rusty (like 5-8 years old) but I want to get involved in the project. Any room for a pythong dev?
[22:12] <jjfrv8> flocculant, will try to look into the pavucontrol thing later this evening.
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[12:57] <TheEagerPadawan> momenteel aan het kijken naar nginx tutorials van linux academy
[12:57] <TheEagerPadawan> ze spring nogal van de hak op de tak Oo
[12:57] <TheEagerPadawan> ze springen*
[15:31] <TheEagerPadawan> kent er iemand een goede resource om meer te weten te komen over linux administration
[15:31] <TheEagerPadawan> die gelijkdelijk opbouwt?
[15:34] <JanC> TheEagerPadawan: voor een deel leer je dat gewoon door te doen
[15:34] <JanC> en door alles wat interessant lijkt te lezen
[15:34] <TheEagerPadawan> wat is het verschil tussen systemctl en gewoon service?
[15:35] <JanC> 'service' is een simpele wrapper rond het service-beheer van verschillende init systemen
[15:36] <JanC> systemctl is specifiek aan systemd
[15:36] <JanC> (en doet meer dan enkel servicebeheer)
[15:36] <lordievader> Veel meer ;)
[15:36] <TheEagerPadawan> go on
[15:39] <lordievader> TheEagerPadawan: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd
[15:40] <JanC> Ubuntu wiki heeft ook een Upstart -> systemd pagina ergens
[15:41] <lordievader> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[15:41] <JanC> en er zijn uiteraard de officiële manuals
[15:42] <TheEagerPadawan> ligt het aan mij of het soms moeilijk om aan informatie te graken
[15:42] <lordievader> Manpages staan vol met informatie...
[15:43] <JanC> manpages, de uitgebreidere documentatie, etc.
[15:43] <JanC> meestal ook nog wiki's vol info
[15:43] <lordievader> Documentatie wat betreft systemd is best uitgebreid. Geen gebrek aan info zou ik zeggen.
[15:43] <JanC> en stapels tutorials & how-tos :)
[15:44] <JanC> probleem is soms eerder het kaf van het koren scheiden bij de niet-officiële documentatie
[15:45] <JanC> en let ook altijd op de datums
[15:45] <lordievader> Of up to date dingen vinden bij niet-officiele docu/tutorials.
[15:45] <JanC> een how-to van 7 jaar geleden is niet altijd nog steeds relevant :)
[15:45] <JanC> soms wel, soms niet
[15:47] <TheEagerPadawan> waarom zou je concreet systemctl gebruiken inplaats van service
[15:49] <JanC> vergelijk misschien eens de handleidingen van beide :)
[15:49] <lordievader> Omdat service waarschijnlijk (zeer) snel gedeprecate word.
[15:55] <TheEagerPadawan> waarschijnlijk gewoon me brein dat niet wilt accepteren dat je beter systemctl gebruikt dan service ;)
[15:59] <JanC> ik weet niet of het deprecated zal worden
[15:59] <JanC> maar sowieso moet je systemctl ook kennen op een systemd-systeem
[16:04] <TheEagerPadawan> van depricated stuff gesproken word sysvinit nog veel gebruikt dezer dagen?
[16:07] <JanC> natuurlijk
[16:07] <JanC> maar vooral op oudere server-installaties natuurlijk
[16:08] <TheEagerPadawan> dacht dat grotendeels ging vervangen worden door systemd
[16:08] <JanC> op de meeste systemen was het al lang vervangen door Upstart e.a.
[16:09] <JanC> Gentoo heeft al heel lang een eigen init
[16:09] <JanC> en sommige distros gebruiken een BSD-stijl init
[16:10] <TheEagerPadawan> en wat is upstart dan weer?
[16:10] <JanC> meeste commerciële UNIXen gebruiken ook al een tijdje eigen inits
[16:10] <TheEagerPadawan> just asking question to learn :)
[16:10] <lordievader> Gentoo kan ook systemd gebruiken. (Mijn Gentoo systemen gebruiken allemaal Systemd)
[16:10] <JanC> Ubuntu gebruikte Upstart tot en met release 15.04
[16:11] <lordievader> 15.04 gebruikte toch al Systemd?
[16:11] <lordievader> 14.10 was dacht ik de laatste met upstart.
[16:15] <JanC> zelfs 15.10 gebruikt nog upstart (voor user sessions) :)
[16:16] <TheEagerPadawan> upstart -> /sbin/init
[16:17] <JanC> TheEagerPadawan: zit je op een 14.04 LTS?
[16:17] <TheEagerPadawan> nope 15.10
[16:18] <TheEagerPadawan> systemctl
[17:04] <TheEagerPadawan> netstat gaat gedepricated worden vervangen door ss, jawohl
[18:58] <Maikel> ss is ook iets flexibeler
[18:58] <Maikel> jawol!
[18:59] <khildin> hola... weet iemand met welk commando je kan controleren of php5-mysql is geinstalleerd? ik kan wel php -m doen in console, maar dan krijg ik _alle_ modules die geinstalleerd zijn... en ik wil alleen weten of php5-mysql is geinstalleerd
[19:03] <Maikel> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[19:03] <Maikel> eerste hit
[19:06] <khildin> ik probeerde het via php te doen, via dpkg is (uiteraard) veel eenvoudiger.. ;)
[19:07] <khildin> soms ben je blind voor andere opties
[19:07] <khildin> gracias Maikel
[19:07] <Maikel> np
[19:07] <Maikel> ik vergeet die ook er altijd bij te installeren en dan realiseer ik mij dat het geen module is.
[20:04] <TheEagerPadawan> is de urban pinguin nog steeds valid voor lpic?
[20:26] <TheEagerPadawan> wel linux cert is goed voor mee te beginnen, en waar vind ik defitge resources
[22:42] <TheEagerPadawan> ping Maikel
[22:52] <khildin> TheEagerPadawan, IBM heeft wel wat docs: http://ibm.co/1Pp6QLg
[22:56] <TheEagerPadawan> urbanpinguin / linuxacademy / cbtnuggets?
[22:57] <khildin> als je videos handig vind, dan is cbtnuggets een optie
[22:58] <khildin> ga je voor certificering?
[22:58] <TheEagerPadawan> certificering zou inderdaad wel handig zijn
[22:58] <TheEagerPadawan> als je een job wilt en je hebt weinig ervaring
[22:58] <khildin> Ikzelf ben ook aan de studie... wil eind januari tijdens fosdem examen doen
[22:59] <TheEagerPadawan> is dat in mijn ogen de enige manier om aan te tonen da je shit kent
[22:59] <TheEagerPadawan> linuxacademy gecheckt - $9 black friday
[22:59] <khildin> dan zijn er denk ik 2 opties: LPIC of RH
[22:59] <TheEagerPadawan> nu probleem is dat ze van de hak op de tak springen in mijn opinie
[22:59] <JanC> en BSD vermoedelijk :)
[23:00] <khildin> waarbij LPIC meer generiek is
[23:00] <TheEagerPadawan> LPIC zou misschien wel een idee zijn
[23:00] <TheEagerPadawan> maar het wordt eigenlijk maar vanaf lpic-2 intressant imho
[23:00] <khildin> ik werk sowieso niet graag met .rpm based distro's
[23:01] <khildin> te veel gewend aan .deb.. ;)
[23:01] <JanC> https://fosdem.org/2016/certification/
[23:01] <TheEagerPadawan> toch eens overwegen om naar fosdem te gaan ;)
[23:02] <JanC> LPIC, BSD & LibreOffice
[23:02] <TheEagerPadawan> dan zal het LPIC moet worden
[23:02] <TheEagerPadawan> BSD is mijn ogen niet veel gebruikt
[23:02] <TheEagerPadawan> en LibreOffice als techneut /dev/null
[23:03] <JanC> hangt er van af wat je wil doen hé, is geen end-user cert
[23:04] <TheEagerPadawan> ook niet de bedoeling
[23:04] <TheEagerPadawan> system admin -> security -> pentesting (that is the idea)
[23:04] <khildin> scripting in libreoffice.... _kan_ leuk zijn
[23:05] <khildin> alleen ben ik geen devver... laat ik graag aan anderen over
[23:05] <Sling> TheEagerPadawan: rhcsa is waardevoller dan lpic imo, hands-on examen ipv multiple choice
[23:05] <Sling> en dan daarna evt rhce
[23:05] <TheEagerPadawan> lesses zijn pokke duur Oo
[23:05] <khildin> maar dan zit je weer met .rpm geneuzel....
[23:05] <JanC> LibreOffice Certified Developer / Certified Migration Professional / Certified Professional Trainer / Certified L1 Support Professional / Certified L2 Support Professional
[23:05] <Sling> khildin: wat boeit de package manager?
[23:05] <Sling> het gaat om algemene linux kennis die je op alle distro's wel kan toepassen, uiteindelijk
[23:06] <Sling> als je commands uit je hoofd gaat leren dan is het inderdaad onhandig dat je net die apt-get commando's niet op je lijstje hebt
[23:06] <TheEagerPadawan> ook LPIC-1, nu nog ne deftige resource vinden
[23:06] <Sling> maar als je op die manier leert dan kom je er niet :)
[23:06] <khildin> jawel... maar dir structuur bijvoorbeeld is bij RH en drivaten net weer anders dan bij Debian etc...
[23:06] <Sling> mwoah
[23:07] <TheEagerPadawan> met LPIC-1 moet je toch iets vinden nope?
[23:07] <khildin> ik vind het erg lastig om over te schakelen
[23:07] <Sling> TheEagerPadawan: sander van vugt heeft daar een goed boek voor
[23:07] <TheEagerPadawan> hit me up with the url, before you go go
[23:07] <Sling> khildin: kunnen schakelen tussen distro's en de juiste tool voor de juiste job kiezen zie ik als een basisvaardigheid voor een linux beheerder
[23:07] <Sling> TheEagerPadawan: google zelf :)
[23:08] <khildin> ben sinds een paar weken bij een community die een distro heeft op basis van CentOS.... leuk project... super community maar blijft lastig als je ubuntu gewend bent
[23:08] <TheEagerPadawan> sling: on the contrary sir, ddg
[23:08] <Sling> ook goed
[23:09] <khildin> #nethserver
[23:09] <khildin> fork van SME-server
[23:09] <Sling> van beiden nog nooit gehoord
[23:09] <khildin> Linux Small Business Server
[23:09] <TheEagerPadawan> http://www.bol.com/nl/p/aan-de-slag-met-linux-voor-lpic-1/9200000022857480/
[23:10] <khildin> all-in-one ... modulair opgebouwd...
[23:10] <Sling> khildin: bah, ik hou niet van all-in-one :)
[23:10] <Sling> ik wil zelf kiezen wat ik draai
[23:10] <Sling> maar ieder z'n ding
[23:10] <khildin> dan spreid je alle modules toch over meerdere (virtuele) servers?
[23:11] <Sling> ik kies liever een mainstream distro ivm support en updates
[23:11] <Sling> dan iets obscuurs wat toevallig een leuke combinatie van packages voor je voorselecteert
[23:11] <khildin> is CentOS niet mainstream?
[23:11] <Sling> jawel
[23:11] <khildin> ok
[23:11] <Sling> maar waarom dan niet gewoon CentOS draaien en zelf packages installeren
[23:11] <TheEagerPadawan> centos is toch overgekocht door redhat?
[23:11] <Sling> TheEagerPadawan: centos is gebaseerd op red hat
[23:12] <Sling> het is een 'free' versie op basis van de RHEL packages
[23:12] <khildin> gemak.... :) als je met 1 klik een komplete config kan regelen .... waarom dan moeilijk doen?
[23:12] <TheEagerPadawan> mja had geruchten opgevangen dat ze het haden overgekocht
[23:12] <TheEagerPadawan> maar dat is blijkbaar nu niet waar :p
[23:12] <JanC> TheEagerPadawan: het is waar
[23:12] <TheEagerPadawan> aha ;)
[23:12] <JanC> maar ook daarvoor waren ze al op RH gebaseerd
[23:13] <Sling> ze sponsoren het centos project
[23:13] <TheEagerPadawan> true
[23:13] <TheEagerPadawan> naast dat boek anders nog goeie resources voor LPIC-1
[23:13] <Sling> en ze hebben idd ook de trademarks zo te zien
[23:13] <Sling> TheEagerPadawan: CBT nugget video's
[23:13] <Sling> ook door sander :)
[23:14] <TheEagerPadawan> wat bedoel je met die laatste zin
[23:14] <Sling> dat sander van vugt ook in die filmpjes zit
[23:14] <TheEagerPadawan> ahazo
[23:14] <JanC> een mogelijk voordeel van die SMB-distro's is dat ze meestal een geïntegreerde webinterface hebben voor maken van accounts, shared diskspace, etc.
[23:15] <Sling> JanC: ja en die webinterface verbergt vervolgens weer wat er echt gebeurt
[23:15] <khildin> oh? ik meende dat de CBT nugget LPIC-1 filmpjes door Shawn Powers waren gemaakt
[23:15] <Sling> en introduceert weer mogelijk nieuwe bugs en veiligheidsrisico's, etc
[23:15] <JanC> vooral nuttig als niet-techies accounts moeten kunnen maken
[23:16] <JanC> en meestal draai je dat ook op een intranet, wat het risico enigszins verkleint
[23:16] <Sling> khildin: kan zijn dat het niet de CBT nuggets zijn die ik bedoel dan, er is iig een hele serie van LPIC-1 (en 2?) video's door sander v vugt
[23:16] <khildin> ah ok...
[23:16] <Sling> zo heb ik er een paar jaar geleden voor geleerd, video's werken voor mij meestal wel goed
[23:16] <khildin> ik vind dat zelf ook wel prettig...
[23:16] <Sling> misschien komende fosdem eens lpic2 doen
[23:17] <Sling> alhoewel ik er vast niet heel veel van leer, magoed
[23:17] <Sling> lpic3 zou wat interessanter moeten zijn
[23:17] <khildin> maar het is wel nodig dat je dan zelf meteen meedoet in een terminal.... kijken/luisteren EN doen
[23:17] <Sling> ja het doen is inderdaad wel het beste
[23:17] <Sling> en dat geldt al helemaal voor hands-on examens zoals red hat
[23:18] <Sling> daar krijg je geen vragen met mogelijke antwoorden, maar een lijst met opdrachten en een virtuele machine
[23:18] <Sling> en de eind-staat van die virtuele machine moet overeenkomen met het resultaat van het uitvoeren van alle opdrachten :)
[23:18] <khildin> Ik zou eigenlijk afgelopen weekend al examen doen... op t-dose.... maar was ziek... baal er nog van
[23:18] <Sling> zoals 'configureer service x zodat gebruiker y ... blabla'
[23:19] <Sling> en geen internettoegang
[23:19] <khildin> nu maar plannen voor fosdem....
[23:19] <Sling> eerst 32c3 though :)
[23:22] <khildin> ok... tijd om te nokken.... truste
[23:22] <TheEagerPadawan> hmmm sander heeft videos op pearson ;)
[23:22] <Sling> ahja, pearson klinkt bekend
[23:22] <TheEagerPadawan> cfr. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmmdIb3DTkc
[23:29] <TheEagerPadawan> nu is de vraag dat boek is in het nederlands
[23:29] <TheEagerPadawan> kan je lpic doen in het nederlands?
[23:29] <TheEagerPadawan> of gebruikt hij engelstalige termen
[23:30] <Sling> lpic is gewoon engels
[23:30] <Sling> net als linux ook engels is :)
[23:31] <Sling> dat boek is er wel in NL
[23:31] <Sling> maar als je moeite hebt met engels dan zou ik juist adviseren om alles in t engels te doen
[23:31] <Sling> want daar ga je anders vroeg of laat toch wel tegenaan lopen
[23:33] <TheEagerPadawan> niet echt een probleem met engels ;)
[23:34] <TheEagerPadawan> natuurlijk is studeren in je moedertaal als het mogelijk is altijd rapper om iets te begrijpen
[23:35] <Sling> ok :)
[23:38] <TheEagerPadawan> morgen boekje bestellen en wat chillen
[23:38] <TheEagerPadawan> dan overmorgen eens er terug in vliegen
[23:38] <JanC> je kan ook LPIC in het Frans en zo doen
[23:39] <JanC> sommige examens toch
[23:40] <TheEagerPadawan> als je voor vertaler tolk wil spelen ;)
[23:40] <JanC> Engels/Frans/Duits op FOSDEM
[23:40] <TheEagerPadawan> English ;)
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:05] <rick_h_> party
[01:01] <dekkard> ja
[01:04] <dekkard> anyone here?
[01:18] <rick_h_> zzzzz
[01:18] <rick_h_> barely
[01:42] <dekkard> heh
[01:42] <dekkard> aight
[01:43] <dekkard> reading a sci-fi book from a mug member
[01:43] <dekkard> pretty good
[01:43] <dekkard> later
[11:55] <cmaloney> morning
[12:58] <rick_h_> morn
[14:02] <_stink_> yo
[14:04] <jrwren> yo yo yo
[14:05] <jrwren> To the tune of Mr. Me by They Might Be Giants.
[14:10] <_stink_> jrwren++++
[14:10] * _stink_ goes to play it
[15:48] <Scary_Guy> morning
[16:41] <cmaloney> Well, that was entertaining
[16:42] <Scary_Guy> ?
[16:46] <cmaloney> Couldn't connect to freenode for a while
[16:56] <Scary_Guy> Had a friend with that problem in ##Modders-Inc although he still can't connect
[16:56] <cmaloney> Yeah, they're getting DDoSed
[16:58] <Scary_Guy> I've had zero issues that I can see
[18:59] <jcastro> jrwren: hey, I'm going to Ann Arbor PHP tomorrow if you want to roll with
[18:59] <jrwren> jcastro: thanks, i'll pass. I'm sticking to semjs and aa gophers.
[19:01] <jcastro> ack
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.927297
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:58] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:59] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.927937
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[02:17] <cyberanger> Well, my mysql container needs fixing, have to fix that after work
[02:18] <cyberanger> Shouldn't be an issue, ttyl
[07:43] <cyberanger> Was hoping to take a peek at break, but my phone's ssh keys aren't on the server
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.928823
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2015-11-30-#ubuntu-ie
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[09:14] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:16] <tdr112> hey czajkowski
[09:16] <slashbel> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.929344
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-ir
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[05:54] <parsa> salam
[05:55] <Guest27972> chand roze ubuntu software center man baz nemishe
[05:57] <Guest27972> vaqti baz mikonam in error mide : new software cannot be installed ecoze there is probleb with software currently installed do you want epair probllem now
[08:49] <Aref> سلام دوستان
[08:49] <Aref> کسی هست به شکل ویژه در مورد text processing کار کرده باشه؟
[08:51] <Aref> بهنظر شما یادگیری و تسلط بر تمامی ابزارهایی که برای این مورد طراحی شدن یعنی پرل، پایتون و awk و sed نیازه؟
[17:36] * CtrlC sings
[20:49] <aref> سلام
[20:49] <aref> ی سوال داشتم کسی هست
[20:49] * aref slaps lubotu3` around a bit with a large fishbot
[20:50] <aref> یکی جواب بده خاهشا
[22:07] <Ahmad_> salam
[22:08] <Ahmad_> من لینوکس یاد بگیرم از کجا باید شروع کنم
[22:09] <iraj> Ahmad_, اول نصبش کن بعد شروع کن به کار کردن
[22:17] <Ahmad_> ubuntu-server
[22:17] <Ahmad_> ubuntu-desktop]
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.935129
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-se
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[17:39] <x86_64> Jag följar varjeman :3
[17:39] <x86_64> hej Hund
[17:39] <Hund> haha :D
[17:39] <Hund> x86_64: Hej påre!
[17:39] <x86_64> påre? :3
[17:40] <Hund> "På dig"
[17:40] <Hund> Slarvigt utal. :P
[17:40] <x86_64> ._.
[17:41] <x86_64> okej
[17:41] <x86_64> :3
[17:41] <x86_64> Hund, talar du engelska? :p
[17:41] <Hund> Ajjemen!
[17:41] <Hund> Min gramatik går väl att ifrågasätta dock. :P
[17:42] <x86_64> O_O
[17:43] <x86_64> <-- förvirra
[17:43] <x86_64> :p
[17:43] <x86_64> Och... Kommer Merley inte här? -.o
[17:43] <Hund> :D
[20:51] <Meerkat> bankid, fan vad sämst!
[20:52] <Meerkat> Går det att rapportera till AF utan bankid efter 1:a december? Genom att gå till deras kontor eller något?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:22.939414
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[02:21] <nhaines> I have another 3 hours of driving ahead of me, minimum. So I'll be watching my backscroll for the meeting recap tonight!
[02:56] <ianorlin> ok meeting in 5 minutes
[03:00] <ianorlin> #startmeeting
[03:00] <darthrobot> Meeting started Mon Nov 16 03:00:49 2015 UTC. The chair is ianorlin. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[03:01] <ianorlin> who is here for this meeting ?
[03:01] <DonkeyHotei> o/
[03:04] <ianorlin> the agenda this week is empty https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings
[03:04] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:04] <ianorlin> #topic upcoming events
[03:05] <ianorlin> we have scale and ubucon coming up in January and nominations for team leaders for next year
[03:05] <DonkeyHotei> are nominations open?
[03:07] <ianorlin> it says they are open
[03:07] <ianorlin> today but I am not sure nominating someone not here we would need to get whether they accept or not
[03:07] <DonkeyHotei> you're here, so you could be nominated, no?
[03:08] <ianorlin> yes
[03:08] <DonkeyHotei> then i'd like to nominate you for a 2nd term
[03:09] <ianorlin> I accept
[03:10] <DonkeyHotei> do we have any events prior to scale?
[03:11] <ianorlin> maybe some ubuntu hours I am not sure of
[03:13] <ianorlin> don't know of any annouced
[03:13] <ianorlin> hosting an ubuntu hour would be nice if someone want to do that
[03:14] <DonkeyHotei> i think most are regularly scheduled
[03:14] <ianorlin> yes I think there is one in Passdena and then there are the bay area ones which I can't bring to mind right now
[03:15] <DonkeyHotei> they should be on the wiki
[03:16] <ianorlin> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2992-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/ is the next event I see
[03:16] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[03:17] <ianorlin> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/2997-ubuntu-hour-berkeley/ is the other one after the next meeting and then it is to the new year
[03:17] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour Berkeley | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[03:18] <ianorlin> #topic any other business
[03:19] <DonkeyHotei> which airport serves scale now?
[03:20] <ianorlin> I don't ever take airplanes so I am not sure
[03:21] <DonkeyHotei> if i attend, i would not be flying in, but the question was posed by someone who needs to be back in norcal the following day
[03:24] <ianorlin> I don't think there is only one but passadena is a bit far from LAX
[03:24] <ianorlin> I know there is also an airport in Burbank that airlines fly to
[03:25] <ianorlin> I don't know traffic well on those connecting routes east when traveling north and south because I do not usually head that way
[03:25] <DonkeyHotei> i was assuming there is an official scale airport much like there is an official scale hotel
[03:25] <ianorlin> The directoins on there give freeways mostly
[03:32] <ianorlin> richard gaskin will know better so might be better to ask on mailing list
[03:34] <ianorlin> and probalby george mulak as well
[03:36] <ianorlin> I don't have anything more on this subject
[03:36] <ianorlin> anything else to add
[03:41] <ianorlin> #endmeeting
[03:41] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Nov 16 03:41:37 2015 UTC.
[03:41] <darthrobot> Minutes: http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2015/ubuntu-us-ca.2015-11-16-03.00.moin.txt
[06:23] <mobilephonepi> Hello. Is anyone interested in trading hardware?
[06:26] <mobilephonepi> I have some mobile phones and a tablet, but I want to see if I can trade them for a hard drive enclosure and software.
[06:35] <DonkeyHotei> entirely possible, but attendance in the channel is spotty atm
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-ru
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[00:18] <aves> Привет подскажите че за проблема с загрузкой? systemd(1): Failed to mount tmpfs at /sys/fs/cgroup: No such file or directory
[06:12] <anderx> tagezi: че там у тя в финке бухие фины беженцев стреляют) щас путина позаву
[06:20] <JohnDoe_71Rus> anderx: а при чем тут барин?
[06:31] <anderx> фиг его знает
[06:31] <anderx> он в финке живет
[06:31] <JohnDoe_71Rus> я ваще та про ввп
[06:32] <andrex> вот это я улетел)
[06:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> просто тебя переключили на более компетентного сотрудника
[06:50] <andrex> да просто нужно роутер нафиг выкинуть ему лет 10ть уже
[06:56] <uneform_alex> Доброе утро
[09:14] <tagezi> утра всем
[09:18] <Gerard_TM> И тебе) Только у мну по часам уже после полудня :)
[09:19] <Gerard_TM> Уважаемые, подскажите пожалауйста если есть у кого опыт, Avahi поддерживает iOS 9?
[09:20] <andrex> возми да проверь
[09:20] <andrex> )
[09:22] <Gerard_TM> Очень полезный ответ :) Проверил, у меня не работает, поэтому то и замолвлено словечко про "опыт".
[09:23] <andrex> опыт в выкидывании машины за кусок алюминия
[09:23] <andrex> ну нафиг
[09:23] <andrex> и стекла
[09:25] <andrex> лучше на форуме стпроси, тут народу мало а яблокодрочеров еще меньше или нет вобще
[09:26] <andrex> @voice
[09:31] <uneform_alex> яблокодрочеров :)
[09:31] <uneform_alex> Жестковато ты :)
[09:31] <tagezi> andrex: чото ты сегодня опять не добрый )
[09:32] <tagezi> роутер тебя кикает с канала, чтобы не хулиганил ))
[09:32] <andrex> да меня кто только не кикает) идаже клайнят
[09:33] * andrex бедняжка забитый со всех сторон. потому и злой)
[09:34] <andrex> @voice uneform_alex
[09:34] <andrex> и тебе привет)
[09:35] <SergeyIT> ку
[09:35] <andrex> SergeyIT: не бей нас дядка) мы тут матюгаемся
[09:35] <tagezi> SergeyIT: ку
[09:35] <SergeyIT> зачем?
[09:35] <tagezi> пороть их нужно
[09:35] <andrex> да да
[09:35] <andrex> с тагези и начнем
[09:36] <andrex> энтузиаст должен опробовать идею на себе)
[09:38] <SergeyIT> ищо один идеалист
[09:38] <andrex> бурчун)
[09:38] <SergeyIT> сказано же в классике - на кошечках!
[09:39] <andrex> tagezi: кысь кысь кысь
[09:39] <andrex> плохой шарик
[09:40] <Leagnus> Привет! сделал
[09:40] <Leagnus> mv файл.tar ./backUp/ и файл куда-то делся - я хотел в подпапку его переместить
[09:40] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://esci.ru/ttb/1_cufl.jpg
[09:40] <tagezi> andrex: если я вешу 85 кг - это ещё не значит что я шарик )
[09:41] <andrex> тяжелый такой шарик
[09:42] <andrex> Leagnus: ну был ты в папке к примеру 1 и воткнул в комманду ./такую \фигню а это значит ты сделал чет в папке кв которой находится папка 1
[09:42] <andrex> воттакой венегрет
[09:43] <Leagnus> что я сделал не та?
[09:43] <andrex> почитай про ./ ../ ../../../ итд
[09:44] <Leagnus> я читал
[09:45] <Leagnus> ты не умничай, а скажи, что не так: mv файл.sql.gz ./backUp/файл.sql.gz
[09:45] <Leagnus> отрабатывает без проблем
[09:46] <andrex> да все так
[09:46] <andrex> глюк какойто у тебя)
[09:49] <andrex> хотяя про ./ я ступил малехо эт текущий
[09:49] <Leagnus> та ясен пень
[10:04] <Leagnus> да, это был глюк
[19:25] <VMV> всем привет!
[19:26] <VMV> народ, ну подскажите пожалуйста. есть примонтированный архив, там папка, в ней файл. как найти полный путь к этому файлу?
[19:27] <VMV> find -iname не находит, в свойствах, если в менеджере смотреть, полная куча %3%:;*№(;*;:*":№ вот такой фигни
[19:29] <VMV> вот путь, который показывает менеджер свойствами
[19:30] <VMV> archive://file%253A%252F%252F%252Fmedia%252Fdata%252Fmars%252F%2525D0%252598%2525D0%2525B3%2525D1%252580%2525D1%25258B%252Fgog_dreamfall_chapters_1.5.0.7/Dreamfall%20Chapters
[19:30] <VMV> а мне нужно файлу права раздать...
[19:31] <VMV> канал вообще жив? :)
[19:32] <rpg-terminal> в консоль перетащи будет путь
[19:33] <VMV> не работает
[19:33] <VMV> пробовал в первую очередь)
[19:33] <Sergey_IT> вечера ... нерабочего
[19:35] <VMV> привет)
[19:37] <VMV> Sergey_IT: не поможешь решить вопрос?)
[19:37] <Sergey_IT> порешить?
[19:38] <VMV> ага
[19:38] <Sergey_IT> а чего случилось?
[19:38] <VMV> народ, ну подскажите пожалуйста. есть примонтированный архив, там папка, в ней файл. как найти полный путь к этому файлу?
[19:40] <VMV> Sergey_IT: вот такая задачка
[19:44] <tagezi> зря ты его спросил, ща скинет тебе мануал на месяц чтения )
[19:45] <tagezi> VMV: куда ты его монтировал?
[19:45] <Sergey_IT> за месяц не управится
[19:46] <VMV> я его смонтировал тупо правой кнопкой мыши -- Примонтировать архив)
[19:46] <Sergey_IT> в крузадере ctrl+s
[19:46] <VMV> потому что при попытке tar -xvcf он говорил что тип архива не поддерживается
[19:46] <VMV> хотя он тар
[19:49] <VMV> Sergey_IT: это мне?) у меня pantheon-files
[19:52] <Sergey_IT> ну так крузадер поставь и см. выше
[19:54] <VMV> так он потянет сейчас за собой...
[19:55] <VMV> по-другому никак? чтоб систему не засорять...
[19:59] <Sergey_IT> поняяянет много.... я к нему привык
[23:56] <tagezi> тест
[23:56] <ubuntuhelp> tagezi, Ну понг, и что?
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[09:04] <joglin> #drupal-italia
[09:05] <gigirock> joglin, eh ?
[09:05] <joglin> Scusa
[09:10] <gigirock> joglin, se vuoi andare a quel canale /j #drupal-italia
[09:11] <joglin> Già fatto, grazie. Errore di copia ed incolla. Chiedo scusa ancora.
[13:35] <Motard550> Problemi installazione ubuntu
[13:36] <Motard550> Si blocca nella fase raccomandazioni : collegato a rete internet collegato, a rete elettrica, spazio libero necessario e poi non mi fa proseguire !?
[13:38] <Motard550> Acer extensa 5220 con 2 giga di ram
[13:39] <krabador> e che gli è successo?
[13:41] <Motard550> O provato con altre iso ma si blocca senpre alla stesso punto!
[13:42] <krabador> quale?
[13:42] <gigirock> Si blocca nella fase raccomandazioni : collegato a rete internet collegato, a rete elettrica, spazio libero necessario e poi non mi fa proseguire !?
[13:42] <Motard550> Si blocca nella fase raccomandazioni : collegato a rete internet collegato, a rete elettrica, spazio libero necessario e poi non mi fa proseguire !?
[13:43] <gigirock> Motard550, ma tu che cosa spunti delle raccomandazioni ?
[13:43] <krabador> "non mi fa proseguire2
[13:43] <krabador> che cosa fa, o non fa?
[13:43] <Motard550> Nnt premo su avanti e il puntatore ruota all'infinito
[13:44] <gigirock> Motard550, nessuna delle opzioni e' spuntata ?
[13:44] <Motard550> Si sono tutte spuntate
[13:44] <youneverknow> Motard550,"collegato a rete internet collegato" ---> cavo lan ?
[13:45] <Motard550> Si
[13:45] <gigirock> allora prova a non spuntarne nessuna cosi' fai installazione solo da cd
[13:45] <Motard550> Ho provato e non va lo stesso
[13:45] <krabador> Motard550, fa partire il supporto di installazione, al posto che direttamente con l'installazione , con la sessione di prova
[13:46] <Motard550> Ho provato anche questo
[13:46] <krabador> Motard550, si, ma cosa hai fatto quando "hai provato anche questo"?
[13:48] <Motard550> Ho inizializzato l'installazione dal programma" installa ubuntu" ma si blocca sempre li
[13:48] <krabador> allora "non hai provato anche questo"
[13:48] <krabador> quindi, fa partire la sessione di prova, non l'installazione, connetti la macchina ad internet
[13:48] <krabador> puoi caricare questa chat
[13:48] <krabador> e mandare un po' di comandi
[13:48] <krabador> per diagnosticare il problema
[13:50] <Motard550> Ok
[13:57] <pipposandri> salve ho installato ubuntu 12 su vecchio pc, ma adesso come installo flash e altre robette di firefox ?
[14:03] <motard550> ok cosa devo fare ora
[14:04] <jester-> pipposandri: ubuntu 12?
[14:10] <motard550> kabrador:ora che sono in fase di prova cosa debbo fare?
[14:16] <pipposandri> esatto jester
[14:16] <motard550> l installazione si blocca quando mi chiede scaricare software di terze parti e scarica gli aggiornamenti durante l installazione premo su avanti ma il puntatore gira all infinito
[14:18] <motard550> acer extensa 5220 con 2 giga di ram
[14:19] <pipposandri> salve ho installato ubuntu 12 su vecchio pc, ma adesso come installo flash e altre robette di firefox ?
[14:21] <gigirock> pipposandri, firefox e' un po' indietro come flash usa chrome
[14:25] <motard550> salve durante l installazione di ubuntu 15 si blocca quando mi chiede scaricare software di terze parti e scarica gli aggiornamenti durante l installazione premo su avanti ma il puntatore gira all infinito
[14:25] <gigirock> motard550, allora adesso 6 dalla live ?
[14:25] <motard550> si
[14:26] <gigirock> premi ctrl alt t , e dal terminale che apri fai sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:29] <motard550> Reading package lists... Done
[14:29] <motard550> Building dependency tree
[14:29] <motard550> Reading state information... Done
[14:29] <motard550> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[14:29] <motard550> pastebinit
[14:29] <motard550> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
[14:29] <motard550> Need to get 14.8 kB of archives.
[14:32] <motard550> Reading package lists... Done
[14:32] <motard550> Building dependency tree
[14:32] <motard550> Reading state information... Done
[14:32] <motard550> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[14:32] <motard550> pastebinit
[14:32] <motard550> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
[14:40] <pipposandri> salve ho installato ubuntu 12 su vecchio pc, ma adesso come installo flash e altre robette di firefox ?
[14:40] <krabador> pipposandri, il numero di versione è di 4 cifre
[14:41] <pipposandri> versione di cosa ?
[14:42] <jester-> pipposandri: ubuntu 12?
[14:42] <pipposandri> esatto 12
[14:42] <jester-> pipposandri: sicuri che sia ubuntu?
[14:42] <krabador> pipposandri, sveglia
[14:43] <krabador> il numero di versione è di 4 cifre, puoi indicarlo con precisione?
[14:43] <pipposandri> e dove sta scritto ?
[14:44] <jester-> pipposandri: attuale rilascio è: 15.10
[14:44] <krabador> sulla iso, sul sito da cui l'hai scaricato, in una marea di posti
[14:44] <pipposandri> allora sara' 12.00
[14:44] <krabador> credo proprio di no
[14:44] <jester-> si è ora di pranzo
[14:44] <pipposandri> perche ?
[14:44] <krabador> pipposandri, o rispondi correttamente
[14:44] <krabador> o puoi andare, per fvor
[14:45] <pipposandri> ma mi stai dicendo che non c'e' una procedura standard per installa flash ?
[14:46] <krabador> pipposandri, ti sto dicendo, che se non indichi la versione di ubuntu che hai installato, non ricevi assistenza.
[14:46] <jester-> pipposandri: se la 12,sticazzi non è piu supportata non installi un bel niente
[14:46] <jester-> pipposandri: apri un terminale
[14:46] <pipposandri> ma non si trovano nei vecchi archivi ?
[14:46] <krabador> pipposandri, rispondi o te ne vai
[14:47] <krabador> pipposandri, altrimenti vieni allontanato
[14:47] <jester-> pipposandri: abbiamo la vaga senzazione che tu stia trollicchiando
[14:47] <krabador> giusto un minimo
[14:47] <pipposandri> se mi dici che comando devo usare per sapere la versione te la trovo quando ho scaricato era indicato solo 12
[14:47] <jester-> pipposandri: apri un terminale
[14:47] <pipposandri> o0k
[14:48] <jester-> pipposandri: lsb_release -r
[14:48] <pipposandri> ok grazie
[14:52] <motard450> ho dato il comando "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[14:52] <krabador> motard450, non incollare il risultato
[14:52] <krabador> altrimenti il bot ti manda fuori
[14:52] <motard450> ok
[14:52] <krabador> motard450, sudo lshw | pastebinit
[14:52] <krabador> questo fa un link
[14:52] <krabador> incollalo qui
[14:53] <motard450> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13299283/
[14:54] <krabador> motard450, in questo pc, che sistema ha girato fino ad adesso?
[14:54] <motard450> windows
[14:54] <krabador> motard450, sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[14:54] <krabador> stessa cosa
[14:55] <motard450> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13299294/
[14:56] <krabador> motard450, fa chkdsk /R c: in windows
[14:58] <motard450> scusa non ho capito
[14:58] <krabador> motard450, questo comando fa il checkdisk della partizione windows
[14:59] <krabador> da win. le partizioni win, si gestiscono con win
[14:59] <krabador> poi riprova ad installare
[15:00] <motard450> quindi inserisco questo comando in win e poi?
[15:00] <jester-> motard450: hai normale hd partizionato?
[15:01] <motard450> si
[15:01] <jester-> mica è normale la risposta di fdisk
[15:02] <motard450> scusa ma nn ho capito cosa intendi
[15:03] <jester-> motard450: intendo che vede dei dischi in ram
[15:04] <motard450> la ram [ stata aumentata da 512 a 2 giga
[15:05] <jester-> motard450: eh ma non dovrebbe vedere dischi in ram a meno che hai installazione particolare
[15:06] <motard450> e quindi?
[15:07] <jester-> e quind o hai una macchina particolare o è tutto a mignotte, per quello krabador ti ha dato quel comando da dare nel terminale di winzoz
[15:09] <motard450> ok allora provo con il checkdisk
[15:38] <gigirock> Carlin0, hai visto che anche quell'utente aveva tutti i dischi /ram come quello dell'altra notte
[15:39] <Mr_Pan> gigirock, tanti anni fa (92 o giù di li..) una mia amica comprò un pc ... un affare mi disse !!.. .però ogni volta che spengo perdo i dati ... morale... pc venduto senza HD solo con un RamDisk ... :)
[15:40] <gigirock> prova dal tuo sistema a fare sudo fdisk /l
[17:28] <brian72> salve a tutti raga
[17:28] <brian72> ho un problema non riesco ad istallare epsxe , come si fa ?
[17:28] <AleCasta> Buonasera ragazzi, per ora sto entrando solamente dalla versione live ma devo effettuare l'installazione...qualche buona guida?
[17:29] <brian72> AleCasta:guida per cosa ?
[17:29] <AleCasta> per installare ubuntu
[17:29] <brian72> sei da ubuntu ? live ?
[17:29] <AleCasta> si esatto
[17:29] <brian72> devi cancellare tutto cio che sul disco ?
[17:30] <akis24> !installazione | AleCasta
[17:30] <ubot-it> AleCasta: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[17:30] <brian72> cioe devi riformattare tutto giusto ?
[17:31] <brian72> akis24:mi spieghi come istallare epsxe ?
[17:31] <krabador> !chat | brian72
[17:31] <ubot-it> brian72: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:32] <AleCasta> che cosa significa architetture i386 e amd64?
[17:32] <krabador> 32 bit o 64 bit
[17:32] <krabador> che cpu hai?
[17:32] <brian72> AleCasta:i386 = 32 bit l altra a 64 bit
[17:33] <brian72> AleCasta:quanta ram hai nel pc ?
[17:33] <AleCasta> 4GB
[17:33] <krabador> brian72, non ti accavallare, per favore
[17:34] <krabador> AleCasta, la cpu, per favore.
[17:35] <AleCasta> da dove si vede quella?
[17:35] <AleCasta> perdonate l'ignoranza
[17:35] <krabador> AleCasta, non hai mai saputo che processore hai
[17:35] <krabador> ?
[17:36] <krabador> AleCasta, se sei in live, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:36] <AleCasta> ho AMD
[17:36] <krabador> AleCasta, cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit
[17:45] <krabador> AleCasta, continuerai per molto?
[17:46] <AleCasta> a far cosa?
[17:46] <krabador> entrare ed uscire
[17:47] <AleCasta> ah scusate non lo faccio apposta ho una connessione instabile
[17:47] <krabador> hai mandato i comandi ?
[17:47] <AleCasta> no devo andare sull icona in alto di ubuntu poi digitare vero?
[17:47] <krabador> no
[17:48] <krabador> aprire il terminale
[17:48] <krabador> ctrl alt t
[17:48] <krabador> e copi incolli i 2 comandi
[17:48] <krabador> AleCasta, susu, che la vita è breve
[17:51] <AleCasta> eh non riesco sono impedito arrivo
[17:55] <AleCasta> ragazzi scappo ora ormai ci guardiamo un altro giorno grazie!!
[18:06] <robygno> buona sera a tutti se apro firefox nei plugin mi chiede di aggiornare java, bene ho seguito le istruzioni e installato java scaricandolo dal sito della oracle, solo che sembra non sia aggiornato. Penso debba essere rimossa la vecchia versione, qualcuno sa consigliarmi come fare?
[18:48] <neramarea> buonasera a tutti... piccolo neramarea torna a far danni... asfaltato tutto per necessità di avere anche winsozz in dual boot e per troppi casini coi ppa (niubbo ero, niubbo rimango); ora, dopo due giorni di aggiornamenti ricerche driver problemi di compatibilità ecc (e relative bestemmie contro microsoft), sono al punto di reinstalllare ubuntu; parlavamo di una partizione dati condivisa: qualcuno mi può dare giusto una dritta?
[18:49] <neramarea> o partiziono dall'installer?+
[18:49] <neramarea> (quella cacca di win7 ora è l'unico sistema presente sul pc)
[18:58] <neramarea> e... dati condivisa meglio ntfs o ext4 da gestire eventualmente con driver ext, da win? considerando che winsozz lo uso solo per vroot, srsroot e amenità simili...
[19:03] <neramarea> ...che silenzio tombale...
[19:04] <giano> ciao a tutti ho una chiavetta usb bloccata (non so il perchè ma l'ho fatto io) sapete aiutarmi a formattarla?
[19:05] <neramarea> "bloccata", giano?
[19:05] <giano> volevo installarle un iso ma non riesco a formattarla
[19:06] <neramarea> gparted?
[19:06] <giano> neramarea: non sono esperto di treminale mi puoi aiutare
[19:07] <neramarea> verifica se gparted è installato, prima di tutto...
[19:07] <neramarea> (da terminale dai gparted)
[19:09] <giano> neramarea:credo di si
[19:09] <neramarea> credi giano? o si apre, o ti dice che non riconosce il comando...
[19:11] <giano> neramarea:si ma non capisco
[19:12] <giano> neramarea:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13301103/
[19:16] <neramarea> e senza sudo?
[19:17] <giano> neramarea:apollo@apollo-K52F:~$ gparted
[19:17] <giano> Root privileges are required for running gparted.
[19:18] <neramarea> eh già...
[19:20] <neramarea> mah... se qua gli scienziati non ci vengono incontro... mi par di capire che sia un bug noto, ma non vorrei dire cazzate...
[19:22] <giano> neramarea:comunque non è troppo imortante, la usb posso anche buttarla
[19:22] <neramarea> non ti so aiutare, giano. il mio modo di fare sarebbe bypassare il problema avviando una live da cd, e formattando la chiavetta da lì. ma non risolverebbe il problema che hai con gparted...
[19:22] <neramarea> provato anche con gksudo?
[19:23] <neramarea> qua qualcuno ne ha già parlato... http://askubuntu.com/questions/536382/gparted-not-working-correctly
[19:23] <giano> neramarea:proverò con la guida
[19:23] <giano> adesso scappo
[19:23] <giano> grazie comunque
[19:23] <neramarea> chiudo anch'io. ola.
[19:24] <giano> ola
[20:11] <dario> salve, mi piacerebbe installare kubuntu 15.10 sul mio pc (i5 4460, gtx970, asrock h97 pro4, 8gb di ram)...è abbastanza stabile per un utilizzo quotidiano?
[20:16] <dario> ?
[20:28] <neramarea> ragazzi, mi serve davvero una mano... io con le partizioni non ci ho mai giocato, e non vorrei far casini... chi mi aiuta con gparted?
[20:33] <neramarea> cristian_c
[20:34] <neramarea> hai cinque minuti per un niubbo_
[20:34] <neramarea> ?
[20:40] <neramarea> c'e' piu vita sulla luna che qui...
[20:47] <neramarea> tra un po' piango...
[20:49] <neramarea> krabador? Carlin0?
[21:07] <in92> Salve
[21:19] <Guest14673> cristian_c ci sei?
[21:25] <neramarea> ragazzi, ma davvero non c'e nessuno che mi possa aiutare a partizionare???
[21:26] <Guest14673> chiedo aiuto: ho ripristinato i valori del bios di windows 8.1 ma ora non mi parte più in dual boot...potete aiutarmi?
[21:26] <cristian_c> neramarea: che succede?
[21:26] <neramarea> cristian, ma allora sei vivo!
[21:27] <neramarea> ho asfaltato, installato winsozz, e ora devo reinstallare ubuntu. volevo una partizione dati separata, ma nbon ho una gran pratica con gparted. mi serve una spinta...
[21:28] <cristian_c> neramarea: no, ti parlo dall'aldilà...
[21:28] <neramarea> condivisa, scusa, non separata
[21:28] <neramarea> hai cinque minuti per me?
[21:29] <cristian_c> neramarea: qui non si fa helpdesk
[21:29] <cristian_c> Guest14673: che parte?
[21:29] <neramarea> eh... lo so... ma io sono impantanato!!!
[21:29] <cristian_c> Guest14673: hai partizionato bene?
[21:30] <cristian_c> !gparted | neramarea
[21:30] <ubot-it> neramarea: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/PartizionamentoManuale
[21:30] <Guest14673> ciao cristian intanto volevo ringraziarti per ieri che poi ho spento tutto e manco ti ho detto grazie. si ho partizionato bene perchè mi hai aiutato tu!
[21:30] <cristian_c> neramarea: non era difficile...
[21:30] <Guest14673> ho installato ieri con te Xubuntu su un pc Lenovo G50 con preinstallato Win 8.ò1
[21:31] <cristian_c> Guest14673: e cos'hai cambiato nel bios?
[21:31] <Guest14673> quando lo accendevo mi proponeva di partire con xubuntu oppure con win... ma se optavo per win dava errore. Così ho provato a ripristinare i valori di default dal bios win.... e tanti salutii a xubuntu
[21:32] <Guest14673> il boot prima dava qualcosa come legacy.... e ripristinando i valori di default dava qualcosa tipo uev
[21:32] <Guest14673> uefi
[21:32] <cristian_c> è normale...
[21:32] <neramarea> si cristian_c. ma ho delle domande. io pongo, poi, se puoi rispondermi, meglio, senno qualcosa faro> la partizione dati da condividere deve essere interna alla partizione estesa? ho 6gb di ram, mi serve o meno lo swap?
[21:32] <Guest14673> e ora che fo?
[21:33] <cristian_c> Guest14673: tu hai installato in legacy
[21:33] <cristian_c> ma forse a windows non piace
[21:33] <Guest14673> e ora che devo fare?
[21:34] <cristian_c> neramarea: hai una tabella gpt o msdos?
[21:34] <neramarea> eeeh?
[21:34] <neramarea> credo msdos
[21:34] <cristian_c> Guest14673: fai una cosa: prova boot repair
[21:34] <neramarea> ho asfaltato installando winsozz...
[21:34] <cristian_c> !bootrepair | Guest14673
[21:34] <ubot-it> Guest14673: Boot-Repair è uno strumento grafico per ripristinare l'accesso ad Ubuntu ed altri sistemi operativi: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/BootRepair
[21:34] <cristian_c> neramarea: credi?
[21:34] <cristian_c> !veggenti | neramarea
[21:34] <ubot-it> neramarea: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[21:35] <neramarea> come lo verifico?
[21:35] <cristian_c> neramarea: tramite sudo fdisk -l
[21:35] <cristian_c> per esempio
[21:35] <cristian_c> o sudo partedl
[21:35] <cristian_c> o sudo parted -l
[21:36] <neramarea> io sono giunto a questo http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13302628/
[21:38] <neramarea> msdos, comunque
[21:39] <Guest14673> il primo problema è che anche con la chiavetta inserita parte sempre e solo win... non riesco più ad entrare nel bios nè con F2 nè con F12
[21:40] <cristian_c> Guest14673: se non entri più nel bios, è un altro discorso
[21:40] <Guest14673> cioè?
[21:41] <cristian_c> o sudo parted -l
[21:41] <Guest14673> il problema è che non fa il dual boot, ma se mi dici di provare con boot repair da live...devo entrare nel bios per dirgli di far partire la chiavetta, no?
[21:41] <cristian_c> neramarea: quindi hai verificato con esattezza?
[21:41] <neramarea> si
[21:41] <cristian_c> Guest14673: sì
[21:42] <neramarea> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13302753/
[21:42] <Guest14673> ok, e come ci entro nel bios ora?
[21:43] <cristian_c> Guest14673: dico, se non entri nel bios, è un altro paio di maniche
[21:43] <cristian_c> Guest14673: sicuro di aver fatto come in precedenza?
[21:43] <cristian_c> (per entrare nel bios)
[21:44] <Guest14673> avevo seguito una guida, che ora non ritrovo più
[21:44] <cristian_c> neramarea: con msdos la partizione estesa è molto utile
[21:45] <cristian_c> neramarea: con gpt credo non si possano neanche creare
[21:45] <Guest14673> forse la spunto... un attimo di pazienza
[21:45] <cristian_c> Guest14673: evita di seguire guide facenti riferimento a risorse esterne a ubuntu
[21:45] <cristian_c> !documentazione | Guest14673
[21:45] <ubot-it> Guest14673: Documentazione ufficiale http://help.ubuntu-it.org - Documentazione della comunità http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione - Gruppo documentazione: pagina principale http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoDocumentazione
[21:46] <cristian_c> Guest14673: questo è invece il punto da cui partire per trovare informazioni
[21:47] <Guest14673> ma da info pure su come avviare il bios di win?
[21:47] <cristian_c> Guest14673: beh, in questo caso no
[21:48] <cristian_c> ma per tutto ciò che riguarda ubuntu, è la scelta migliore
[21:48] <neramarea> quindi, cristian_c, riasfalto swap e ext4, creo un'estesa al cui interno creo una logica in ext4, e parto con l'installazione. una logica, su cui installo il sistema, con punto di mount /, un'altra logica per la home, con mount /home, e un'ultima sempre logica in ntfs con mount in /media/dati per essere letta da win?
[21:49] <cristian_c> neramarea: ogni estesa può contenere al massimo 4 partizioni logiche
[21:50] <neramarea> appunto... qui siamo a 3...
[21:50] <cristian_c> quindi il numero massimo possibile di partizioni totale in questo senso è 16
[21:51] <cristian_c> neramarea: se impostare la partizione dati come logica e no, dipende da come ti organizzi
[21:51] <neramarea> mi sta fumando la pelata...
[21:51] <neramarea> non ho capito, perdonami
[21:51] <cristian_c> con le logiche, ridimensionare ,creare e disfare diventa un macello, come organizzazione
[21:53] <neramarea> ok... dammi un consiglio, allora... installo sulla ext4 appena creata?
[21:53] <neramarea> ...e poi la gestisco eventualmente coi driver ext, da winsozz?
[21:54] <neramarea> solo che vorrei separare il sistema dalla home, in caso di nuovi disastri da parte mia...
[21:56] <neramarea> io non ne do fuori, dannazione...
[21:59] <neramarea> vabbe', io vado a tentativi... tanto, nulla puo' esser peggio che installare windows...
[22:01] <cristian_c> neramarea: beh
[22:02] <neramarea> si?
[22:02] <cristian_c> neramarea: leggere la doc è meglio che andare a tentativi
[22:02] <neramarea> non ne ho capito granche'...
[22:04] <cristian_c> neramarea: windows non gestisce ext
[22:04] <neramarea> cristian_c s=, ci sono dei driver appositi. gia' usati.
[22:05] <cristian_c> neramarea: allora non ti preoccupare di creare una nuova partizionedatic, se ti trovi bene
[22:06] <neramarea> quel che davvero nbon ho capito - poi chiudo, giuro, e'... creo due partizioni separate per sistema e home PRIMA di partire con l'installazione?
[22:07] <krabador> neramarea falle dopo
[22:07] <krabador> perchè scomodarti prima
[22:07] <neramarea> per non far disastri una volta installato ubuntu...
[22:08] <neramarea> e perche' la tabella partizioni mi inquieta, infase di installazione...
[22:11] <Guest14673> e finalmente sono entrato nel bios.......................!
[22:12] <Guest14673> ora, che faccio? setto il boot mode come "legacy support" visto che uefi nnon gli piace?
[22:13] <krabador> Guest14673 se hai win installato in modalità uefi, poi da noie
[22:14] <Guest14673> ciao krabador
[22:14] <cristian_c> Guest14673: uefi fa partire windows e legacy ubuntu, giusto?
[22:14] <Guest14673> sì.
[22:16] <Guest14673> ma se lascio legacy , quando compare la videata del dual boot e clicco su win esce: "windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. To fix the problem:
[22:16] <gigirock> Guest14673, quelle sono le noie
[22:17] <Guest14673> 1. insert your windows installation disc and restart your computer; 2. choose your language settings, and then click "next"; 3. click "repair your computer"
[22:18] <gigirock> Guest14673, cosi' ti fumi il grub pero'
[22:18] <Guest14673> provo con boot repair?
[22:19] <gigirock> Guest14673, ma tu cosa hai installato e quando ?
[22:19] <Guest14673> xubuntu ieri
[22:21] <gigirock> xubuntu insieme a win8 ?
[22:21] <Guest14673> sì
[22:22] <gigirock> allora devi installare il grub nel uefi o efi che si dica
[22:22] <Guest14673> sul pc lenovo c'era win 8.1 e io ho installato affianco xubuntu, guidato da cristian_c
[22:22] <Guest14673> se lo metto su uefi parte solo win
[22:22] <Guest14673> non chiede opzioni di dual boot
[22:23] <gigirock> beh riesci in qualche maniera a far partire xubu ?
[22:24] <gigirock> se lo metti su uefi cosa ? il bios ?
[22:28] <cristian_c> Guest14673: puoi usare bootrepair o il disco di windows, come tu stesso hai indicato prima
[22:28] <cristian_c> per riparare il boot
[22:32] <rattus_> Salve, è possibile montare un DVD9 virtuale senza creare prima una sua immagine ISO?
[22:32] <gigirock> rattus_, che vuol dire ?
[22:34] <rattus_> far partire il dvd dalle sue cartelle salvate su PC
[22:34] <gigirock> rattus_, intendi dire che tu hai il file iso e lo vuoi usare come dvd senza bruciare un supporto fisico ?
[22:35] <gigirock> rattus_, cmq in ubuntu ci premi sopra viene montato e a quel punto lo vedi come se fosse un dvd inserito nel caddy ?
[22:36] <gigirock> rattus_, stai parlando di un dvd9 ubuntu vero ? ;)
[22:36] <gigirock> rattus_, altrimenti .....
[22:36] <gigirock> !chat
[22:36] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[22:38] <Guest14673> cristian_c dal boot non mi vede la USB con Xubuntu (la stessa che ho usato ieri), e quando la monta dopo l'avvio di Xubuntu, non c'è l'icona di Xubuntu live... come faccio?
[22:38] <rattus_> non mi serve supporto relativo al DVD9, ma solo sapere come montarlo su Ubuntu senza convertire da VOB a ISO
[22:39] <gigirock> !chat | rattus_
[22:39] <ubot-it> rattus_: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[22:41] <cristian_c> Guest14673: non ho capito cosa hai avviato
[22:43] <Guest14673> dunque sto cercando di fare il boot repair che mi hai consigliato tu. mi hai detto di farlo dalla live di xubuntu. però il boot non me la vede la chiavetta...la stessa che ieri vedeva.. e quando si apre Xubuntu installato sul pc, la chiavetta me la mostra in trasparenza come non montata. se la monto cliccandoci sopra non mi presenta l'icona di Xubu
[22:43] <Guest14673> ntu
[22:44] <Guest14673> insomma non riesco ad avviare la live
[22:45] <cristian_c> beh, chiaro
[22:45] <cristian_c> Guest14673: sei in legacy o in uefi?
[22:45] <Guest14673> legacy
[22:46] <cristian_c> uh,
[22:46] <cristian_c> Guest14673: per curiosità, in modalità uefi, la usb si avvia?
[22:47] <Guest14673> lo ignoro... non vuoi davvero che ritorni nel bios... vero? E cmq ieri abbiamo lavorato in legacy e fungeva.
[22:53] <Guest14673> mi spiace ma devo lasciarvi. Grazie per il supporto e ci riproviamo domani. Spero di risolverla. Buona notte e grazie ancora
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[05:33] <sadalsuud> hola gente ...
[12:10] <redwolf> hola, ¿algún operador?
[12:13] <redwolf> ¿hay alguien de m4v aquí?
[15:07] <Knight80> Hola a todos/as
[15:08] <Knight80> ¿Cómo puedo eliminar la molesta barra de Gnome Shell que se pone en la esquina inferior izquierda de la pantalla?
[17:36] <Z4sk4> buenas
[17:36] <Z4sk4> alguien sabe como comprar 2 ficheros y quitar las lineas duplicadas que tenga uno en el otro?
[19:34] <pixcl> Hola
[19:34] <pixcl> soy nuevo en esto de ir
[19:34] <pixcl> irc
[19:46] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
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[21:44] <tsimonq2> Welcome to the Official IRC channel for the Ubuntu US Wisconsin LoCo Team | Join our monthly meeting on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 from 7 PM to 8 PM CST. Hangout link: IRC: HERE! Event Link: http://is.gd/V0m8qG | Join the *NEW* mailing list: | Take a look at our wiki page here: | Please mind the guidelines: | This channel is publicly logged: http://is.gd/qsmiqS
[21:53] <tsimonq2> aww
[21:56] <tsimonq2> Welcome to the Official IRC channel for the Ubuntu US Wisconsin LoCo Team | Join our monthly meeting on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 from 7 PM to 8 PM CST. Hangout link: https://goo.gl/DbOfrQ IRC: HERE! Event Link: http://is.gd/V0m8qG | Join the *NEW* mailing list: http://is.gd/dYqnkC | Take a look at our wiki page here: http://is.gd/Qi8ry5 | Please mind the guidelines: http://is.gd/r3bNJS | This channel is publicly logged: http://is.gd/qsmiqS
[22:20] <tsimonq2> Welcome to the Official IRC channel for the Ubuntu US Wisconsin LoCo Team | Join our monthly meeting on Tuesday, December 1, 2015 from 7 PM to 8 PM CST. Hangout link: IRC: HERE! Event Link: | Join the *NEW* mailing list: | Take a look at our wiki page here: | Please mind the guidelines: | This channel is publicly logged: | Quick links: http://is.gd/dR9qNV
[22:21] <tsimonq2> there!
[22:21] <tsimonq2> cheats! XD
[23:26] <tsimonq2> h00k: look ^
[23:26] <tsimonq2> h00k: and were we EVER verified?
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2015-11-16-#juju
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[01:54] <aisrael> I think I've got something funky going on with my dns on wily w/juju 1.25. It'll work, then stop (can't resolve internal dns), then start working again. At the same time, I'm having deployed machines able to resolve names but not connect (i.e., apt-get update)
[01:57] <aisrael> Ok, that last part gets fixed by restarting lxc-net (a side-effect of my iptables script to port forward to containers.
[02:31] <blahdeblah> aisrael: I experience that all the time completely without respect to juju
[02:32] <blahdeblah> NetworkManager seems to be very stop-start when it comes to rational DNS resolution.
[02:33] <aisrael> blahdeblah: So I've noticed. The quickest way to get it back is to ssh in and restart nm. I'm combing logs now to try to find what's getting run that confuses it
[02:34] <blahdeblah> It has been like that since at least trusty; I got into the habit of adding /etc/hosts entries for anything important. I probably should rather start debugging it a little and submit bugs against NM.
[04:47] <DarkNet> oh, so sad. this is not about jujujoints :(
[06:45] <blahdeblah> lazypower: I've read your DNS charm documentation today for the 2nd time, and I'm still trying to work out whether it's what I should be using for my particular application. If you're around late in your day sometime, would you mind me picking your brain about it for a few minutes?
[08:26] <gnuoy> jamespage, Could I get a second opinion on https://code.launchpad.net/~ionutbalutoiu/charms/trusty/neutron-gateway/next/+merge/276833 ? I'm inclined to merge it and add a comment to config.yaml saying "if you need to use this config option please consider filing a bug against the charm to explicitly expose the config option you are setting"
[08:27] <gnuoy> or words to that effect that actually make sense
[09:15] <jamespage> gnuoy, agreed - and some unit tests would also be nice
[16:42] <jose> arosales: hey, good news! we got accepted into Google Code-In - we're on the search for tasks right now :)
[16:46] <arosales> jose: woot!
[16:46] <arosales> jose: good to hear
[16:46] <arosales> jose we can certainly help with tasks :-)
[16:47] <jose> \o/
[16:47] <arosales> jose: would you like me to just send them to you or do you have have a google doc, git-hub page, or something I can reference?
[16:49] <jose> arosales: google doc is fine. marcoceppi offered to be a mentor I believe, so maybe you can work with him, or if you want you can be a mentor too
[16:52] <arosales> jose: I would be interested. I am not sure how the whole process works, but I would like to learn more and work with you to make it sucessfull.
[16:53] <arosales> jose: would you perfet github repo or google doc?
[16:53] <jose> arosales: google doc works for me - I'm working on mobile a lot and it's easier to access :)
[16:53] <arosales> jose: oh, I was talking more long term too, not just for today
[16:54] <jose> arosales: yeah, university schedule keeps me here 7am-8pm :D
[16:54] <jose> and semester finishes second week of december
[16:54] <arosales> I bet :-)
[16:54] <jose> so, mentors are basically the ones who publish tasks and review that they have been done
[16:54] <jose> and if students have any questions about an specific task they can ask the mentor they published
[16:54] <jose> yes, it's easy as it sounds
[17:01] <arosales> jose: I made https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZFAJiuml59dF_1qJmCmrTqRoJxQRJddcL3baxnkmoh8/edit just for the initial plannin
[17:01] <arosales> open to anyone if anyone elses has any ides
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2015-11-16-#xubuntu
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[13:47] <nils17> hi. how to execute a shell-script via desktop-startet, explicitly via bash (not e.g. zsh)? e.g. xfce4-terminal -e 'bash /home/user/myscript.sh' ??
[13:50] <jbermudes> nils17: I thought that was what shebangs were for
[13:50] <nils17> ok.. if the shebang is enough to make shure that it is executed by bash.. then ok..
[13:51] <nils17> then the question is only: how to create a desktop-starter that starts a bashscript via xfce4-terminal but with root-rights? gksudo or sudo in fron of the path-to-script? you understand?
[13:52] <nils17> 1. gksudo xfce4-terminal -e '/home/user/myscript.sh" or
[13:52] <nils17> 2. xfce4-terminal -e 'sudo /home/user/myscript.sh' ?
[13:52] <jbermudes> Like, you want an icon on the desktop or in a panel?
[13:53] <nils17> it for a starter I created under /usr/share/applications/ "Desktop-starter" was just an example
[13:53] <jbermudes> I'm confused. What do you want? An icon that's clickable that starts your script?
[13:54] <nils17> wait I tell you :-)
[13:56] <nils17> please have a look here: http://pastebin.com/vrkAkqu6
[13:56] <nils17> I created a starter... but the script runs with user's rights. But it should be run with root's rights (sudo/gksudo)
[13:56] <nils17> you understand?
[13:57] <nils17> this starter appears in my menu.. (this part works without any problems)
[13:57] <nils17> its just the rights the script runs with
[13:59] <jbermudes> since xfce4-terminal is a gui app, then perhaps adding gksudo to the beginning of the Exec command will work?
[14:01] <nils17> ok.. I now try the easiest way... could you tell me how to create a script that shows me who I am? e.g. xfce4-terminal -e 'whoami' (the terminal should not close)
[14:02] <jbermudes> You could use the "read" command at the end of the shell script to pause and wait for text to be entered
[14:03] <nils17> yes.. alternativly I tried the following: xfce4-terminal -e "whoami && sleep 10"
[14:03] <nils17> but NO xfce4-terminal opens
[14:04] <nils17> do I have to use -e "/bin/bash whoami" ??
[14:06] <jbermudes> You can test this by just opening a terminal and typing xfce4-terminal whatever inside the terminal and seeing what happens ;)
[14:07] <nils17> I get error message " gtk-warning unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine"
[14:08] <jbermudes> The simplest way I can think of is to just save the whoami thing to a separate file and just make xfce4-terminal run that script
[14:08] <jbermudes> or even in the script do whoami > ~/whoami-out.txt or something
[14:08] <jbermudes> then you dont even have to deal with waiting to read output
[14:09] <jbermudes> although maybe that's a bad idea if you don't know who's home folder that may end up in
[14:10] <jbermudes> It'll either be in yours in /home/bob or /root
[14:15] <flocculant> nils17: this might help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/155791/how-do-i-sudo-a-command-in-a-script-without-being-asked-for-a-password
[14:43] <sim642> I have autologin turned on but I still get asked for keyring password
[14:43] <sim642> any way to get rid of that?
[15:25] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Who's the happy dude around here?
[15:26] <cfhowlett> JohnnyComeL8ly, this is xubuntu support. check your channel. stay on topic.
[15:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ok.
[15:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I knew which channel I was in, but had forgotten that this is strictly for support....
[16:58] <rightarmfast> Hi. I have a RAM of 2 GB and 4 GB of my HDD as swap. I want to ask whether I need to decrease my swappiness value . if yes, then to how much? thanks :)
[18:22] <RangerK> This topic does not yet exist. :-( http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/4.10/bulk-renamer/date-time
[18:26] <flocculant> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/bulk-renamer/date-time
[18:34] <RangerK> thanks
[18:45] <flocculant> RangerK: welcome :)
[21:20] <WerkPlaceDT> attempting to do a fresh install using 12.04 (old hardware) i get a command line screen that starts with "PID: 6049, comm: modprobe Tainted" and then pretty much everything else is meaningless to me. this happens right at the start of the install.
[21:20] <WerkPlaceDT> I get to selelct language, click continue, click continue and then this. any one have any ideas herE?
[21:26] <flocculant> http://askubuntu.com/questions/309782/ubuntu-12-04-fails-modprobe-tainted
[21:26] <flocculant> possibly helpful
[21:37] <Gava> Hi, new user fleeing Windows. Having trouble trying to connect to my system. We have a WD USB Drive plugged into a BT Hub 5. I want to connect to it over wi-fi but can't make it work. Any help appreciated.
[21:38] <WerkPlaceDT> i two have a broadcom wireless adapter
[21:39] <WerkPlaceDT> too*
[21:39] <WerkPlaceDT> thanks flocculant
[21:39] <flocculant> WerkPlaceDT: lucky guess then :)
[21:41] <WerkPlaceDT> flocculant: my bios allows me to disable the wifi card so i'm see if that works. no time for disessemby right now
[21:44] <WerkPlaceDT> and that fixed that
[21:44] <WerkPlaceDT> thanks again
[21:47] <genii> Broadcom makes such crap
[22:34] <xubuntu04w> Hey I'm trying to install xubuntu onto my computer, but every time I try I get "unrecognized maxwell chipset"
[22:34] <xubuntu04w> I'm running a 980 Ti and a pentium g3258
[22:37] <mrkramps> xubuntu04w, the free nouveau driver used by default is not supporting nvidia maxwell chipsets
[22:38] <mrkramps> xubuntu04w, but you can start the live system with the bootoption 'nomodeset' and after system installation add the according nvidia driver
[22:39] <mrkramps> last comment: https://askubuntu.com/questions/636969/no-support-for-maxwell-gpus-in-nouveau
[23:06] <xubuntu11w> Hi I am having problems with my wireless internet adapter constantly disconnecting/connecting. And it making my computer completely freeze. What can I do to figure out the problem and fix this?
[23:30] <AIA> hi
[23:30] <knome> hello
[23:31] <AIA> i'm new with Xubuntu and wanna to know how to install Emacs &c++ compiler
[23:32] <knome> AIA, sudo apt-get install emacs build-essential
[23:32] <knome> AIA, that is, from the command line
[23:33] <AIA> this command to install emacs only or c++ compiler also
[23:33] <knome> both
[23:34] <AIA> there r any other compiler
[23:35] <AIA> installed
[23:35] <knome> no, a regular user doesn't need a compiler
[23:35] <AIA> thinx
[23:37] <xubuntu11w> is someone able to help me?
[23:37] <knome> xubuntu11w, what is your wireless adapter?
[23:38] <xubuntu11w> Bus 001 Device 026: ID 148f:3072 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT3072 Wireless Adapter
[23:41] <xubuntu11w> im pretty sure this is it http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Wireless-Network-Adapter-Antenna/dp/B006JWMOOI
[23:51] <xubuntu11w> was that the information you needed knome?
[23:51] <knome> xubuntu11w, that would help debugging the issue for sure, but i have little experience with ralink adapters
[23:52] <knome> you can try searching with ubuntu and rt3072 for potential solutions
[23:55] <xubuntu11w> okay. the wireless adapter is not the problem. It has to be something else.
[23:56] <knome> actually, the wireless adapters are often problematic
[23:56] <xubuntu11w> like a driver issue. or bug in linux. It used to never give me problems. now it does.
[23:57] <knome> if manufacturers do not offer drivers or hardware specifications for everybody (including linux), things are unlikely to work ootb
[23:59] <xubuntu11w> sometimes Xubuntu, will say a internal problem has occurred. something with the network manager i see in the report. I have sent report each time.
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[03:26] <mapps> hi all
[03:27] <daftykins> lo
[03:33] <mapps> sup;D
[03:34] <mapps> cool tv night..walking dead..homeland and brooklynnine nine;D
[03:34] <mapps> watch any?
[03:34] <mapps> ooh and new series of peep show
[03:35] <daftykins> nope not any o' them
[03:36] <mapps> :|
[03:36] <mapps> peep showis so funny
[03:36] <daftykins> ah can't stand that style
[03:36] <daftykins> too painful
[04:16] <mapps> homelandtime:D
[04:32] <mapps> ;]
[08:10] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:12] <jimmy_will> what a morning
[08:16] <directhex> Laney! fix bug 1132063!
[08:16] <lubotu3`> bug 1132063 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Mouse settings missing from Mouse & Touchpad dialog" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1132063
[09:08] <diplo> Morning all
[10:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Button Day! 😃
[10:03] <directhex> JamesTait: buttons for pushing, or buttons for doing things up?
[10:04] <JamesTait> directhex, officially the doing things up type, but personally I don't mind. 😉
[10:16] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:21] <popey> morning
[10:22] <dogmatic69> o/
[12:34] <popey> !ping
[12:34] <lubotu3`> pong!
[12:34] <popey> good
[12:35] <bigcalm> !ding
[12:35] <lubotu3`> dong
[12:35] <bigcalm> pud
[12:38] <foobarry> !sing
[12:38] <foobarry> :(
[12:39] <bigcalm> !bing
[12:39] <lubotu3`> ban
[12:39] <bigcalm> o.O
[12:39] <bigcalm> I was hoping for google
[12:54] <diddledan_> !sing
[12:54] <diddledan_> aww
[12:55] <davmor2> JamesTait: sorry meetings and bugs slowed me down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDGcxAf9D8
[13:15] * diddledan_ pushes davmor2 's button
[13:15] <diddledan_> but really.. a day for buttons?!
[13:15] <diddledan_> that's randomness
[13:16] <zmoylan-pi> next zipper day...
[13:16] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: and then "getting it caught in the zipper day"
[13:16] * diddledan_ winces
[13:16] <zmoylan-pi> it'll keep them in stitches...
[13:17] <diddledan_> the big question when you get caught in your zip is "do I finish doing it up or attempt to undo it?"
[13:17] <zmoylan-pi> or the slow v fast method of bandaid removal...
[13:17] <diddledan_> yeah that's another perennial
[13:18] <foobarry> popey: i got some great github stickers
[13:18] <foobarry> ask jono bacon for some ;)
[13:20] <popey> i will! :)
[13:20] <foobarry> we got 200 after buying the github onsite appliance
[13:20] <popey> I'd rather have launchpad stickers though, because you know, free software
[13:20] <foobarry> there are some great stickers
[13:20] <foobarry> yeah
[13:21] <foobarry> but octocat
[13:21] * popey shrugs
[13:22] <foobarry> i also have a "my other computer is a cray"
[13:24] <zmoylan-pi> my favourite was 'the beatings will continue till morale improves'
[13:24] <diddledan_> lol
[14:19] <diddledan_> found this the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJvEIjRBSDA (Write in go)
[14:29] <diddledan_> "it's weird when you can see each other, isn't it. I don't like it!" lol
[14:29] <diddledan_> silly geeks
[14:29] * diddledan_ <3 the buntu podcast
[14:36] <diplo> Giving Ubuntu Mate a go today, well once I have backed everything up
[14:37] <diddledan_> one must recognise there's a difference between someone saying "you gotta try ubuntu, mate" and "you gotta try ubuntu mate"
[14:37] <diddledan_> :-p
[14:38] <diplo> Well it's not pronounced "mate" like alright mate
[14:38] <diplo> So I've found out today
[14:38] <diplo> :P
[14:38] <zmoylan-pi> i learned the importance of commas when i helped my uncle jack off a horse... :-P
[14:38] <diddledan_> yeah, I think that makes it sound ponsey tho
[14:40] <diddledan_> I would imagine the horse was somewhat relieved to have that weight-off
[14:40] <diddledan_> whichever way you punctuate it :-p
[15:31] <diddledan_> fun exam answer (supposedly) http://paste.ubuntu.com/13299495/
[15:39] <foobarry> there's only 1 way to pronounce mate surelty?
[15:40] <zmoylan-pi> unless you spell if maté
[15:41] <foobarry> but they don't?
[15:43] <zmoylan-pi> seems to have been dropped but still pronounced that way...
[15:51] <bigcalm> Like Cafe
[15:54] <daftykins> i find most pronunciation in the open source world to be quite stupid
[15:56] <diddledan_> café is supposed to be spelt with a ´ over the e. anything else is wrong.
[15:58] <arsenip> well
[15:58] <arsenip> anything else is the eastenders version
[15:58] <daftykins> :>
[15:58] <diddledan_> cath's caff
[15:58] <arsenip> caf-ay (french) or CAFF (eastenders)
[15:58] <arsenip> GOIN DOWN CAFF
[15:58] <diddledan_> daan caff
[15:58] <diddledan_> not down
[15:58] <arsenip> ^
[15:58] <arsenip> sorry.
[15:58] <arsenip> i'm a newbie to south london.
[15:58] <diddledan_> lol
[15:58] <daftykins> saff
[15:58] <arsenip> SAFF
[15:58] <arsenip> ffs
[15:59] <arsenip> sorrY!
[15:59] <daftykins> XD
[15:59] * arsenip quits life
[15:59] <diddledan_> :-p
[15:59] <arsenip> *liaff
[16:00] <daftykins> hmm a mate is giving me his smashed screen Nexus 5 for free, so i've ordered a cheap £26 screen from Hong Kong to swap :>
[16:00] <diddledan_> you sneaky pete!
[16:00] <arsenip> nice.
[16:00] * arsenip rubs his iphone
[16:01] <diddledan_> arsenip: pervert
[16:01] <arsenip> probably.
[16:01] * diddledan_ rubs his, too
[16:01] <arsenip> i'm male.
[16:01] * zmoylan-pi offers to play phone conkers with nokia dumbphone...
[16:01] <diddledan_> my precious
[16:01] <diddledan_> I like the fingerprinty thingy
[16:01] <daftykins> nah he knows it's been fixable for ages, but i saw him the other day at a party with a Samsung S5 =|
[16:02] <daftykins> some folks are so ridiculous with their money
[16:02] <diddledan_> <--
[16:02] <daftykins> ;]
[16:03] <arsenip> <--
[16:03] <arsenip> rediculous is relative.
[16:03] <diddledan_> I like shiny toys
[16:03] <arsenip> as is money.
[16:03] <daftykins> seems someone i know is still keen on getting a Surface despite having a Lenovo X1 carbon
[16:03] <diddledan_> o_O
[16:03] <arsenip> surface looks good tbh
[16:03] * diddledan_ checks the lenovo
[16:03] <arsenip> is the x1 not old now ?
[16:04] <Seeker`> Registered : Nov 20 23:44:23 2006 (8y 51w 5d ago)
[16:04] <daftykins> unless you ever want to upgrade it, trollolol
[16:04] <Seeker`> There must be 9 days this week
[16:04] <arsenip> its a laptop ..
[16:04] <daftykins> X1 has a 2015 model
[16:04] <arsenip> if you're buying laptops for upgradability you're doing it wrong :D
[16:04] <arsenip> i say this from my high perch cradling my macbook 12.. of course.
[16:04] <daftykins> not when Lenovos are mostly sold with teensy SSDs
[16:04] <arsenip> ah yes, that i can understand.
[16:04] <daftykins> what the stupid Core M thing?
[16:05] <arsenip> 'low on disk space' shouldnt be an error that exists in todays age.
[16:05] <arsenip> probably daftykins
[16:05] <daftykins> i was able to swap out the 160GB intel for a 512GB Crucial in the X240 of someones
[16:05] <arsenip> though perf isnt an issue really.
[16:06] <daftykins> buying all the accessories to get some sane sockets is? :>
[16:06] <primered6> ~<120gb is not that bad that's what NAS storage is for..
[16:07] <arsenip> i gots all the litle donglefriends daftykins :D
[16:07] <arsenip> actually i could do with a usb-c to thunderbolt or whatever it is, i guess
[16:07] <daftykins> primered6: perhaps for your own usecase, however i have travelling business folk clients
[16:07] <daftykins> hehe
[16:08] <arsenip> franly the only reason i have 500gig SSD in mine is because i dont want to ever have to delete stuff
[16:08] <arsenip> i can't see many businesses using >100gig on a workstation unless its a creative industry (sound/video processing)
[16:09] <bashrc_> nobody will ever need more than 640K
[16:09] <arsenip> :D
[16:10] * daftykins groans at the cliché
[16:10] <diddledan_> I use > 100G on my laptop for business
[16:10] <arsenip> i basically work out of crhome and a terminal, so my 500gig exists for random junk downloads and videos to watch on flights. :D
[16:13] <daftykins> i wish i knew who this office opposite was, i'd tell 'em they can save money by turning off their damn screens at night :P
[16:15] * daftykins keeps using Firefox tab groups before it gets removed in FF 45 :(
[16:22] <diplo> I use > 100G on my laptop and work PC arsenip as do most of the work staff, but I agree in a typical office maybe that would be a lot
[16:25] <awilkins> Windows eats like 60G or something now?
[16:26] <awilkins> I know a lot of it is actually hardlinks to libraries, but still
[16:26] <daftykins> no
[16:28] <daftykins> it's never taken 60GB
[16:29] <primered6> More like 20-30gb
[16:29] <primered6> if that..
[16:30] <daftykins> 10 comes with that funky install shrinking tech
[16:30] <hexhaxtron> Anyone has Freeview HD?
[16:30] <daftykins> what'd the actual question be?
[16:31] <zleap> some channels on freeview are HD,
[16:31] <hexhaxtron> If it works with WiFi or if I need cables connected to the TV?
[16:31] <zleap> like bbc channels, so if you have HDTV you get a better picture
[16:31] <daftykins> hexhaxtron: wait what? freeview is aerial broadcast no o0
[16:31] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, what does it mean aerial? I need an antenna?
[16:32] <daftykins> yeah that's what freeview is, unless something new has come out in the last year i don't know about
[16:32] <zleap> ariel = antenna
[16:32] <hexhaxtron> Or the builtin Freeview in the TV already catches the signal?
[16:32] <daftykins> depends what your TV is capable of
[16:32] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, I'm interested in this TV: http://dealbuyer.com/viewproduct/18228/Digihome_48_LED_Full_HD_1080p_TV_2_x_HDMI_2_x_USB_Media_Player
[16:33] <daftykins> so yeah roof antenna only
[16:33] <hexhaxtron> I don't have a roof antenna...
[16:33] <daftykins> then you're up that specific creek with no paddle
[16:34] <daftykins> i think i'd aim for something with a freesat tuner, then you can make use of a sky dish
[16:35] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, can you suggest me an antenna to buy?
[16:35] <daftykins> nope
[16:35] <daftykins> you'll want to phone your local handy installer
[16:36] <daftykins> before that though, use the freeview site to check coverage in your area
[16:36] <zleap> we have a freeview tv with a normal indoor ariel / antenna works ok
[16:36] <daftykins> sounds like non-HD
[16:36] <zleap> the UK should have full coverage of freeview analog channels were switched off IIRC
[16:36] <daftykins> no harm in checing :)
[16:36] <daftykins> +k
[16:37] <zleap> not sure just now we have a new tv and we are using an indoor ariel
[16:37] <hexhaxtron> zleap, something like this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/271206041756?adgroupid=13936810266&hlpht=true&hlpv=2&rlsatarget=kwd-124296812946&adtype=pla&ff3=1&lpid=122&poi=&ul_noapp=true&limghlpsr=true&device=c&chn=ps&campaignid=220881786&crdt=0&ff12=67&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff14=122&viphx=1&ops=true&ff13=80
[16:37] <zleap> kinda but yes
[16:37] <zleap> they come in all shapes
[16:37] <hexhaxtron> Thanks! :)
[16:38] <zleap> https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=indoor+ariel&iax=1&ia=images
[16:42] <hexhaxtron> zleap, what do you think of this one? http://www.qvsdirect.com/amplified-indoor-freestanding-digital-freeview-aerial-with-4g-filter?utm_source=google&utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=CJDBxJmxlckCFQxmGwodfrMDKg
[16:42] <hexhaxtron> Is it good?
[16:45] <daftykins> you really should just do it right :P
[16:46] <daftykins> after all you only do it once, so there's no point scrimping
[16:46] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, it's not my home... it's a private rented room... I cannot put an antenna on the roof by myself, the landlord needs to give permission for it.
[16:46] <daftykins> weird to have a place with no provision
[16:48] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, but... that antenna works with the TV I mentioned, right? And then I get many channels for free? That's all I need to know.
[16:48] <daftykins> i wouldn't want to say
[16:48] <arsenip> whenever ive lived in rented i've had tv/phone instaleld - usually with landlord perms tho
[16:49] <daftykins> one years little buggers had sky fitted to my place in Portsmouth, they never asked :P
[16:49] <hexhaxtron> I don't have phone either. However, I got wireless Internet. :)
[16:49] <daftykins> phones pretty useless today
[16:49] <daftykins> i only have one from being forced for my VDSL provision
[16:50] <arsenip> tbh i think these dasy its pretty standard to have sky or cable installed
[16:55] <hexhaxtron> arsenip, can I pm you?
[16:56] <diddledan> now that's an odd spam - advertising an "ultra realistic" flight simulator they're calling "VirtualPilot3D"
[16:56] <diddledan> they claim it "is going to be a GAME-CHANGER"
[16:57] <daftykins> diddledan: well you do have to quit what you're playing to run it i suppose ;)
[16:57] <diddledan> lol
[16:57] <arsenip> ofc hexhaxtron
[16:57] <arsenip> im not sure what use i am, though.
[16:58] <daftykins> yeah that arsenip can't even do s saff London accent ;)
[17:00] <arsenip> afaik freeview works via standard tv aerial right? anyting you get from the likes of argos etc would do fine.
[17:01] <daftykins> yeah probably
[17:03] <daftykins> hexhaxtron: http://www.freeview.co.uk/availability
[17:03] <daftykins> see how good the coverage is nearby before investing in some cheap internal antenna
[17:03] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, I did that already.
[17:03] <daftykins> oh ok, just not sharing then
[17:04] <daftykins> sue me for trying :P
[17:04] * diddledan demands monies
[17:04] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, 90 channels, 14 HD and 29 radio stations.
[17:05] <diddledan> daftykins: talking of suing for money - this is a fun talk at the DEFCON security conference some years ago "that awesome time I was sued for two billion dollars" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSWqx8goqSY
[17:05] <daftykins> only get 18 over here!
[17:06] <diddledan> seems it was 2009 conference
[17:06] <daftykins> cor
[17:06] <daftykins> but that was last week, no?
[17:40] <daftykins> diddledan: i want that 30 minutes back! :P
[17:55] <diddledan> lol
[17:55] <diddledan> you're stuffed then :-p
[17:55] <daftykins> heh nah it was quite interesting, glad i'm not high profile enough to get such letters
[17:56] <diddledan> indeed. I don't know that I'd be able to spot the silly from the serious
[17:56] <daftykins> just imagine being a family person and finding the time to even sift through it all though, ugh
[18:03] <diddledan> http://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/11/16/introducing-edgehtml-13-our-first-platform-update-for-microsoft-edge/
[18:07] <daftykins> still don't feel inclined to run it XD
[18:48] <hexhaxtron> daftykins, do I have to pay some tax to use TV in the UK?
[18:51] <diddledan> hexhaxtron yes
[18:52] <diddledan> hexhaxtron, to wathc live broadcast (even via the internet) you need a "TV License"
[18:52] <diddledan> catch-up that isn't live is ok wihtou tho
[18:52] <hexhaxtron> diddledan, where can I get more info about the TV License?
[18:53] <diddledan> hexhaxtron. tvlicensing.co.uk
[18:53] <hexhaxtron> diddledan, can't I just use an antena and a TV and watch it for free?
[18:54] <diddledan> hexhaxtron, you can, but it's illegal
[18:55] <hexhaxtron> diddledan, are the channels encrypted or something?
[18:56] <diddledan> freeview and freesat are completely unencrypted
[19:32] <Myrtti> TV licence is a bargain
[20:31] <diddledan> ooh, something changed. I wonder what it was.
[20:31] <diddledan> no more "snuck"ing
[21:56] <diddledan> lol https://twitter.com/bsdphk/status/666231716227469312
[22:05] <diddledan> rdio have filed for bankruptcy and pandora have agreed to acquire key assets and staff pending approval by the bankruptcy court
[22:05] <diddledan> http://www.macrumors.com/2015/11/16/pandora-rdio-acquisition/
[23:14] <popey> !ping
[23:14] <lubotu3`> pong!
[23:14] <popey> hmmm
[23:15] <zmoylan-pi> ding
[23:22] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, you mean:
[23:22] <diddledan> !ding
[23:22] <lubotu3`> dong
[23:23] <zmoylan-pi> !pewpewpew
[23:24] <diddledan> interesting: watching agents of shield ep 7 "I hope you stick around" followed by the video closing
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[03:16] <amigojapan> Emmanuel_Chanel: こんにちは
[03:17] <amigojapan> 昨日Ubuntuをあるパソコンにインストールして、でもText Entry +にはJapanese(Anthy)は現れない、だれか分かりますか？
[03:28] <amigojapan> 直しました
[03:30] <amigojapan> 再起動したら、直った
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-de
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[08:10] <David1977> Guten Morgen. Ich habe ein kleines (aber wahrscheinlich lösbares Problem)
[08:11] <David1977> Das Toucpad meines Laptops reagiert nicht mehr und in den Systemeinstellungen unter Eingabegeräte wird mir gesagt "Der Synaptics Treiber ist nicht instaliert oder wird nicht benutzt". Kann mir da jemand aus der Patsche helfen?
[08:13] <David1977> OS ist ein Kubuntu 14.04.3
[08:17] <tuor> David1977, hast du es ueber die Tastenkombination (meist mit Fn) deaktiviert?
[08:21] <David1977> tuor: nein, das habe ich schon versucht
[08:21] <David1977> Also ich habe eine FN Taste mit einem Mauszeichen auf meinem Laptop aber anscheinend sind nicht alle Tasten korrekt belegt. Denn die Taste macht den Bildchirm dunkler ;)
[08:22] <David1977> Linke und recht Maustaste vom Pad funktionieren auch. Nur kann ich den Mauszeiger nicht bewegen
[08:25] <tuor> David1977, ok, dann muss dir jemand anderes Helfen, keine Ahnung von dem Treiber Zeugs.
[08:25] <David1977> Alles klar, danke dennoch ;)
[08:29] <David1977> Vielen dank...hat sich alles erledigt: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Touchpad
[08:29] <David1977> Dort den Hinweis genommen und den Treiber installiert, X-Server neu gestartet und es funktioniert wieder wie gewohnt
[08:30] <David1977> nur komisch, dass es mal funktioniert hat und dann auf einmal nicht mehr
[08:30] <tuor> David1977, updates?
[08:30] <David1977> nicht auszuschließen, dass eines der Updates was zerschossen hat
[08:31] <David1977> Da lese ich ja nicht mit :D. Das mache ich und hoffe, dass alles gut wird ;)
[08:34] <David1977> jetzt bekomme ich auch bei: dpkg -l | grep synaptics
[08:35] <David1977> eine Ausgabe...das war für mich den entsprechende Hinweis
[08:35] <David1977> s/den/der
[08:38] <tuor> David1977, GUT.
[11:20] <newan> Hallo, habe unter 14.04 nun ein Raid 5 mit 3 Platten gebaut. Platten sind WD Reds 4 TB. Leider bekomme ich diese nicht in spindown buw sagt sudo hdparm -C /dev/sda => drive state is: active/idle und sudo hdparm -y /dev/sda => issuing standby command
[11:33] <nils17> Hallo, wie kann ich die Fensterknöpfe in Ubuntu 15.10 von links nach rechts bekommen? Die entsprechend Einstellung in Unity-Tweak-Tool hat keine Auswirkung !
[11:55] <tech9> hi
[12:13] <stevieh> newan: du musst glaub ich die platte auch in den rechten mode versetzen
[12:17] <newan> stevieh: wie stell ich das an?
[12:18] <stevieh> das war dieses advanced power mode setting
[12:21] <stevieh> ich such grad mal... da war irgendwas
[12:21] <newan> stevieh: muss ich das für linux aktivieren oder deaktivieren. Laut WD Homepage geht das nur per jumper
[12:22] <stevieh> also irgendwo in der Richtung musste suchen...
[12:29] <jegade> Guten Tag
[12:29] <jegade> ich versuche unter 15.04 einen docker-container zu starten
[12:30] <jegade> leider kann ich aber nun über das netzwerk nicht drauf zugreifen
[12:30] <jegade> gibt es da besonderheiten
[15:52] <parrots> hi hab hier ubuntu 14.04 mit gnome3 shell, ich will schnell und zuverlässig zwischen de und en tastatur-layout umschalten können, aller dings schein das buggy zu sein, oben rechts in der ecke kann man umschalten, nur ist das teilw. wirkungslos, teilw wirkt es aber die anzeige "de" ist falsch, in wirklichkeit ist noch "en" layout aktiv
[16:03] <Rochvellon> hm, was war das noch gleich mit java und xfce, wo oben links auf dem desktop im vordergrund ein falsches element platziert wird, was in diesem bereich alles überdeckt?
[16:19] <deem_> hi. gibt's irgendwo ne brauchbare anleitung für die installation von ubuntu mit preseed im uefi modus? ich such mich hier zu tode und finde nix gescheites..
[16:26] <jokrebel> deem: Dies hattest Du schon gefunden? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityAutomation
[18:04] <deem> jokrebel: es geht mir mehr um das partitionierungs-layout. ubiquity scheint aber auch recht neu zu sein. wenn ich das richtig sehe, verwenden wir hier noch den "alten" preseed prozess
[18:05] <deem> mal davon abgesehen, dass der link zum installation guide kaputt ist :D
[18:07] <jokrebel> deem: Ich kam über https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preseed drauf, nachdem ich mit preseed nichts anfangen könnte und erst mal nur Gleitcreme ergoogled hatte ;-)
[18:07] <deem> lol
[18:07] <Rochvellon> lol
[18:08] <deem> Naja. Der Link dort führt auch einfach nur zum Installation Guide. Der für 15.04 ist noch nicht live, also muss ich mit 14.04 vorlieb nehmen, da taucht aber mit keinem Wort UEFI auf
[18:09] <Rochvellon> Sei der erste und schreib eine Anleitung ;)
[18:09] <deem> Das Partitionierungs-Schema für EFI kann ich mir ja schon irgendwie mit Google zusammensuchen und dann irgendwie in das Preseed File verpacken. Schwieriger wird nur die Antwort auf die Frage, wie ich dem Installer beibringe, dass er das Partitionierungs-Layout je nach Firmware (UEFI oder Legacy BIOS) dynamisch ändert
[18:10] <deem> Rochvellon: Der Installation-Guide dort ist leider kein Wiki ;)
[18:11] <deem> Ich bastele mir da schon irgendwas zurecht, aber vielleicht hatte ja schonmal jemand das Bedürfnis genau das zu tun, was ich hier vorhabe und kann mich erleuchten :)
[18:18] <Rochvellon> deem: abhilfe kann da wikia.com leisten ;)
[18:53] <Rochvellon> hm, was war das noch gleich mit java und xfce, wo oben links auf dem desktop im vordergrund ein falsches element platziert wird, was in diesem bereich alles überdeckt?
[19:39] <h4x3> moin, womit kann ich bei kubuntu nen m3u stream öffnen?
[19:40] <jokrebel> Kaffeine sollte das doch können, oder?
[19:41] <h4x3> amarok will das nich abspielen
[19:42] <sash_> mplayer
[19:43] <sash_> mplayer -playlist http://whatever.tld/foo.m3u
[19:47] <deem> wie muss ich denn dieses partitioning recipe aus dem preseed file lesen? irgendwie find ich da keine erklärung zu
[19:50] <sash_> deem: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt hilft das?
[19:50] <sash_> deem: Da ist ein partitioning example
[20:21] <Anf_> Danke für den Befehl, da bin ich schon :)
[20:22] <k1l_> man kann mit einem irc programm auch mehrere kanäle gleichzeitig betreten.
[20:22] <k1l_> und wenn du nicht den webchat nutzt, dann wäre das sicher auch etwas verständlicher.
[20:23] <Anf_> Ja, ich hab mir das mit webchat.freenode.net irgendwie angewöhnt.
[20:25] <deem> sash_: danke dir, aber das hier ist genau, was ich suchte. :) http://ftp.dc.volia.com/pub/debian/preseed/partman-auto-recipe.txt
[20:25] <Anf_> Wie soll ich das den mit dem Lüfter jetzt am besten lösen, gibt es da vielleicht von Ubuntu passende Treibers schon, oder muss ich den passenden Windows Treiber (falls es den überhaupt dafür gibt) installieren?
[20:26] <k1l_> Anf_: schau nach ob das problem mit deinem laptop modell bei ubuntu bekannt ist.
[20:27] <jokrebel> Anf_: Ich würd ja erst einmal die verschiedenen Temperaturen und Lasten versuchen anzusehn. Aber vielleicht hast einfach nur den falschen Grafiktreiber (was aber halt nur stochern im Nebel bislang wäre)
[20:28] <Anf_> Ich hab das Problem für ein anderes Modell des Herstellers im Forum gefunden, aber das Problem wurde da auch nicht gelöst
[20:29] <Anf_> Ich hab eine Intel HD 460 Grafik im Notebook, ich glaub das Ubuntu da schon den richtigen Treiber installiert hat, aber ich hab noch nicht nachgeguckt
[20:30] <k1l_> ja für die intel video karte
[20:31] <Anf_> wo kann ich den die installierten Treiber bei Ubuntu den nachschauen, ich hab es bei Ubuntu bis jetzt immer noch nicht finden können
[20:31] <k1l_> lsmod
[20:37] <Anf_> hab lsmod ausgeführt, aber wie ist das der Name für die Graka abgekürzt?
[20:38] <k1l_> wenn es eine intel graka ist, dann gibts die treiber eh im kernel.
[20:39] <k1l_> es geht eher darum, dass du eben gucken sollst, ob es für dein notebook da passende acpi treiber gibt.
[20:39] <k1l_> aber diese treiber sind halt spezifisch für die laptops. also muss man da auch spezifisch suchen.
[20:39] <jokrebel> und wenn es doch eher der CPU zu warm wird? Warum auch immer...
[20:40] <k1l_> ja wenn es 30 tabs mit flash sind, dann wird ne cpu auch mal warm, so ist ja nun nicht.
[20:40] <Anf_> Wo kann ich den den gesammten Wert der CPU Auslasstung mir anschauen?
[20:41] <jokrebel> in den obersten Zeilen von top steht das schon recht detailliert.
[20:41] <k1l_> htop oder system monitor
[20:42] <Anf_> ja, aber htop zeigt die Werte bei den jeweiligen Kern an, aber nicht die gesammt Werte
[20:43] <jokrebel> Anf_: In der GUI zeigt das "System Load Indicator" auch recht gut an.
[20:43] <jokrebel> in top kann man mit 1 zwischen Gesamtwert und jeden Kern einzeln umschalten.
[20:45] <Anf_> ok, aber wo ist der Wert, da sind sehr viele Zahlen mit 0,0, das kann ja nicht sein
[20:46] <k1l_> was sagt "uname -a"?
[20:46] <deem> us = usage, id = idle
[20:46] <deem> zu top
[20:46] <mrkramps> Anf_, die ausgabe für alle CPUs kann man bei htop noch einfügen
[20:48] <Anf_> Und wie mach ich das, weil htop zeigt mir alle viel Kerne einzelnt an?
[20:48] <jokrebel> Anf_: Sowohl top als auch htop haben im Wiki einen eigenen Artikel https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/htop https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/top
[20:48] <mrkramps> Anf_, im setup
[20:49] <mrkramps> Anf_, steht unten in der zeile, welche F-Taste man für was drücken soll
[20:50] <k1l_> Anf_: wo ist denn jetzt das problem? ist da einer der balken auf vollanschlag in htop? unten in der liste hast du doch auch ne sortierung nach cpu%.
[20:51] <Anf_> Setum hab ich gefunden, aber man kann nur die einzelnen CPUs auswählen, aber nicht die gesammte
[20:51] <mrkramps> er hat's eigentlich nicht verdient
[20:51] <Anf_> *setup
[20:52] <deem> Anf_: du solltest vielleicht mal lm-sensors installieren und dir die temperatur deiner cpu anschauen, anstatt dich über top so zu ärgern
[20:52] * jokrebel seufzt und geht Richtung Bett
[20:56] <Anf_> htop funktioniert ja, aber wie stell ich bei Setup den durchschnitt Wert ein?
[21:02] <Anf_> Was soll ich den euch jetzt nennen, damit ich hier mein Problem analysieren kann?
[21:07] <Anf_> Die CPU Auslasstung im durchschnitt liegt bei ca. 5-8% wen ich Firefox und 3-5 Tabs offen habe, und am Surfen bin, der Lüfter Arbeitet aber fast dauernd
[21:08] <mrkramps> Anf_, bei htop: F2 , 3 x rechts , 15 x runter , F5 , 2 x links , 3 x runter , 2 x F7, ESC
[21:09] <Anf_> Hab ich schon, also jetzt für die Durchschnitt der CPU
[21:10] <Anf_> Durchschnitt der CPU liegt bei ca 5-8% beim Surfen. Alles andere ist aus. Was soll ich jetzt mit dem Lüfter machen?
[21:11] <mrkramps> Anf, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/lm_sensors installieren und einrichten
[21:13] <Anf_> Der Rechner ist gerade mal ca 2 Wochen alt. Ich will ungerne die Werte bei der Lüftersteuerung manuell einrichten, nicht das ich da was falsches einstelle
[21:13] <mrkramps> wir sind noch nochmal bei der temperaturüberwachung angekommen
[21:13] <mrkramps> von lüftersteuerung sind wir noch GAAAAANZ weit entfernt
[21:13] <leszek> thinkpad ?
[21:15] <Anf_> wie kann ich den die Temparatur ermitteln?
[21:15] <Anf_> Ist ein Fujitsu Lifebook E734
[21:15] <mrkramps> Anf_, wie oft müssen wir dir das noch vorschlagen?
[21:16] <Anf_> Wir haben über die Auslasstung der CPU gesprochen, über die Temparatur war Nie die Rede
[21:17] <Anf_> Wird es mit dem Tool PSensor gehen?
[21:18] <mrkramps> leck mich am arsch! EOS
[21:22] <Anf_> Was soll es jetzt heißen??
[21:26] <Anf_> Wo ist das Problem, mir wurde gesagt, ich soll die CPU Auslasstung nachschauen, hab ich gemacht, jetzt wurde mich über die Temparatur gefragt, und ich fragt, wo und wie ich die Temparatur nachschauen kann?
[21:29] <k1l_> Anf_: ein einfaches" alle kerne unter 2% und die meiste auslasung hat firefox mit 10%" hätte schon gereicht.
[21:29] <k1l_> wenn man da erst ne stunde einen einführungskurs in htop geben muss ist das etwas langatmig.
[21:29] <k1l_> Anf_: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/lm_sensors hier ist der passende artikel zu lm sensors
[21:31] <Anf_> Das hab ich ja auch verstanden, aber was soll ich den machen, ich hab jetzt die CPU Werte Auslasstung und Temparatur, was soll ich jetzt machen?
[21:31] <Anf_> Der Artikel bringt micht erstmal ja nicht weiter, ich will ja herausfinden, wieso der Lüfter ständig am laufen ist
[21:32] <bekks> Wieso sollte Dich der Artikel nicht weiterbringen?
[21:33] <Anf_> Weil ich ja erstmal herausfinden möchte, wieso der Lüfter ständig am laufen ist, ich möchte ja nicht gleich eine Lüftersteuerung anpassen
[21:34] <bekks> Dann schau Dir die CPU Auslastung und die Temperatur an.
[21:34] <Anf_> Hab ich ja
[21:34] <bekks> Wurde Dir aber schon mehrfach gesagt.
[21:34] <Anf_> Ja, aber das hab ich ja gemacht
[21:34] <bekks> Dort siehst Du, warum die Temperatur steigt.
[21:34] <k1l_> Anf_: ich glaube kaum, dass du jetzt kernelmodul programmierung lernen willst. also schau ob jemand da schon was gemacht hat. es geht darum die acpi treiber für dein notebook zu finden. also die die besser funktionieren als die jetzigen
[21:35] <Anf_> ok, aber wo finde ich die, soll ich da dan alle nach der reinfolge durch testen?
[21:35] <bekks> Wovon redest du jetzt wieder?
[21:37] <Anf_> von dem acpi Treiber
[21:37] <k1l_> welchen kernel hast du da?
[21:37] <Anf_> Oder was soll ich jetzt machen?
[21:40] <Anf_> Linux version 3.13.0-68-generic
[21:41] <bekks> Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:41] <k1l_> mach mal das hier: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid
[21:41] <k1l_> danach reboot
[21:42] <Anf_> ist das ein Kernel Update?
[21:43] <bekks> Auch, ja.
[21:43] <Anf_> Auch? Was sind das den für Packete?
[21:43] <bekks> PAKET.
[21:43] <Anf_> sorry Pakete
[21:43] <bekks> Es heisst verdammt nochmal PAKET.
[21:44] <Anf_> Ich hab es gesehen
[21:45] <k1l_> Anf_: enablement stack.
[21:45] <k1l_> lies die wiki page wenn du wissen willst was das ist
[21:45] <Anf_> Das sind irgendwelche Treiber
[21:45] <bekks> Sind es nicht..
[21:46] <Anf_> Was ist es den dan? Ich möchte ungerne Sachen installieren, von denen ich nichts weiß
[21:46] <bekks> "lies die wiki page wenn du wissen willst was das ist".
[21:47] <Anf_> Bin gerade dabei
[21:47] <k1l_> das der intel treiber im kernel ist, habe ich ja schon gesagt.
[21:50] <Anf_> Ja, das weiß ich, die frage war ja auch, was das für PAKETE sind
[21:51] <bekks> Das wird in o.g. Link erklärt.
[21:51] <Anf_> Ich hab aber gerade online im Wiki nachgeguckt, es ist für eine bessere Hardware unterstützung gedacht
[21:52] <bekks> Erster Satz im Wiki: "The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases."
[21:54] <Anf_> Das hab ich auch gelesen, ich hab aber bei mir das ganze Ubuntu System schon sauber installiert und eingerichtet, ich installiere Ubuntu mal auf dem Notebook auf einer Test HDD und mach dan mal diese instalation
[21:55] <bekks> Ohne mich. Ich bin raus aus der Nummer. Das dauert drei Wochen bis du das gemacht hast, und dann nochmal drei Monate bis du das auf deiner "Echt-HDD" machst.
[21:56] <bekks> Und natürlich wird das nochmal 8x nachgefragt und haarklein erklärt, immer und immer wieder.
[21:56] <Anf_> Ich will halt einfach keine unnötigen Packete im System haben
[21:56] <Anf_> Und dan weiß ich noch nicht, ob es überhaupt was bringt
[21:57] <bekks> PAKET.
[21:57] <bekks> Du bist ja schon bei einem einzigen Wort lernresistent. Da sehe ich schwarz für ein komplettes System.
[21:59] <Anf_> Ich weiß halt nicht, was ich mit diesem Lüfter machen soll, und ob es normal ist, aber bei Surfen im dauerbetrieb zu laufen ist doch nicht normal. Und ich weiß nicht, was ich machen soll.
[21:59] <bekks> Das wurde dir mehrfach gesagt.
[22:00] <bekks> Du willst jetzt lieber erstmal eine Testsystem aufsetzen und herumtrödeln. Dann mach das. Aber ohne mich in Zukunft. Ich werde mich aus deinen Fragen in Zukunft komplett heraushalten.
[22:07] <Anf> Ich bedanke mich dan mal herzlich, für Eure hilfe. Ich probier das in den nächsten Tagen einfach mal mit einem Test System und installiere da mal Enablement Stack. Vielen Dank
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[14:36] <thebwt> nope
[14:37] <thebwt> :( but am now
[14:37] <thebwt> Good morning Tejas
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-16-#cloud-init
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[21:08] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, you around ?
[21:08] <smoser> hm.. general python / nose question.
[21:09] <smoser> i'm usinging setUpClass and tearDownClass. and running tests with nose.
[21:10] <smoser> i'd like to have something that runs at the end of all the 'nosetests' run.
[21:10] <smoser> and woudl have access to see what the pass/fail were and such.
[21:12] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Hmm, not sure how to do that.
[21:12] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: What are you trying to do?
[21:12] <smoser> curtin's 'vmtest' runs a bunch of vms, and does install and then reboot and collect output of each install.
[21:13] <smoser> for better or worse we use setupClass to do the install and collect of output.
[21:13] <Odd_Bloke> And you want to move away from that?
[21:13] <Odd_Bloke> Or there's something else that you want to do?
[21:13] <smoser> the thing i want to do though is basically keep arond the disks and console logs and such of each failure
[21:15] <smoser> but clean all that up for successful runs
[21:16] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Maybe a plugin: http://nose.readthedocs.org/en/latest/plugins/writing.html ?
[21:17] <smoser> yeah, probably.
[21:17] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Or maybe just a wrapper script?
[21:18] <smoser> yeah. that too might be even better. as then i'm not dependent on nose specifically.
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-nz
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[01:28] <G> Xerus? Sounds a bit close to Circus for my comfort :)
[01:30] <G> Although given my recent experiences with the Live images, it's a fairly accurate reflection of the luck I've had of late. :)
[18:52] <olly_> morning
[19:01] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:48] <hads> morning
[21:26] <gzcwnk> :)
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:31] <tyhicks> hello
[16:31] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:31] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Nov 16 16:31:54 2015 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:32] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:32] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:32] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:32] <tyhicks> Klas Mattsson (klas-mattsson) provided a debdiff for trusty for openafs (LP: #1513461)
[16:32] <tyhicks> Many thanks for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :)
[16:32] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:32] <tyhicks> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:32] <mdeslaur> I'm on triage this week
[16:32] <mdeslaur> I'm about to publish strongswan and libxml2 updates
[16:33] <mdeslaur> and I have a couple of embargoed issues to work on
[16:33] <mdeslaur> and that's about it from me, sbeattie?
[16:33] <sbeattie> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:34] <sbeattie> I'll have openjdk updates and some other java goop to publish this week
[16:34] <sbeattie> I need to talk with people about getting an archive test build going for pie amd64
[16:35] <sbeattie> I need to spend some time reviewing outstanding apparmor patches
[16:35] <sbeattie> And the usual kernel triage rigamarole.
[16:35] <sbeattie> That's pretty much it for me; tyhicks?
[16:36] <tyhicks> I'm in the community role this week
[16:36] <tyhicks> I have some bug triage followup from last week
[16:36] <tyhicks> need to finish the mapplauncherd review and profile development
[16:36] <tyhicks> have some followup to do regarding a proposed eCryptfs kernel feature
[16:36] <tyhicks> AppArmor policy namespace management improvements
[16:37] <tyhicks> AppArmor policy loads inside of a user namespace
[16:37] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[16:37] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:38] <jjohansen> I am working on apparmor stacking and policy namespace improvements
[16:38] <jjohansen> I also need to spend a bit of time prepping for tomorrows apparmor meeting
[16:39] <jjohansen> I think that is it for me, sarnold you are up
[16:39] <sarnold> i'm on bug triage this week
[16:40] <sarnold> I'm reviewing some apparmor kernel patches and might get around to the parser and makefile patches this week, and I aim to start the .. uhh .. webserver in systemd MIR
[16:41] <sarnold> that should be it for me, if chrisccoulson is around then it's chrisccoulson's turn, if not back to tyhicks :)
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> I'm around :)
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> I should be doing a thunderbird update this week (I thought that would be last week). I don't have any other planned updates
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> Other than that, I'll be working through some Oxide reviews, as well as hopefully finishing off the camera implementation
[16:42] <chrisccoulson> I also hope to find time to get firefox symbol uploads automated again
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> that's me done
[16:43] <tyhicks> thanks!
[16:44] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:44] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:44] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:44] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/k4dirstat.html
[16:44] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pam-pgsql.html
[16:44] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/fwsnort.html
[16:44] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ppmd.html
[16:44] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libphp-adodb.html
[16:44] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:44] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:48] <tyhicks> mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: Thanks!
[16:48] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:48] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Nov 16 16:48:32 2015 UTC.
[16:48] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-16-16.31.moin.txt
[16:48] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
[16:48] <sbeattie> thanks, tyhicks!
[16:49] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks!
[16:51] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks
[20:50] <wxl> !lococouncil assemble
[20:50] <wxl> !lococouncil | assemble
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-bd
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[17:57] <asif> hi
[17:58] <asif> helllo
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-gnome
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[11:05] <Bluewolf> I have Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome, I run the Docky application as short cut on my desktop and after I did updates, it just wont start up. I've uninstalled and reinstalled which has done nothing. Any solutions?
[13:21] <LinDol> hi all
[13:21] <LinDol> :)
[21:09] <spartan2276> Having horrible time installing 15.10 on RAID, it stalls while trying to create /boot
[21:10] <spartan2276> I even tried using LVM but nothing
[21:10] <spartan2276> is there any way to get past this
[21:21] <spartan2276> take a look at the image of what the install is doing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz2E21JweMDPNGIyOXBjdmtZMDg/view?usp=sharing
[21:23] <spartan2276> anyone?
[21:27] <Na3iL> Yep spartan2276
[21:30] <spartan2276> did you see the image I posted https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz2E21JweMDPNGIyOXBjdmtZMDg/view
[21:30] <spartan2276> I can't get the install pass that part
[21:31] <spartan2276> BRB, let check the to see if it finished
[21:31] <spartan2276> doubt it
[21:36] <Na3iL> You have checked if it is complete ISO?
[21:44] <spartan2276> yes
[21:45] <spartan2276> Na3iL, I did get an issue while booting the USB drive something about a COM32R
[21:45] <spartan2276> but then I hit Tab and entered "live" and it worked
[21:46] <spartan2276> Na3iL, should I re-download the ISO file again?
[21:46] <Na3iL> Yup spartan2276
[21:46] <Na3iL> By the way, what is the link you have downloaded with it the ISO file?
[21:49] <spartan2276> Na3iL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/Non-LTS
[21:51] <Na3iL> Then, when you tried to extract the ISO file into the flash & trying to make it bootable, you have made something wrong
[21:51] <Na3iL> Try with CD/DVD?
[21:51] <spartan2276> ah seriously
[21:52] <spartan2276> don't have any
[21:52] <Na3iL> I tried Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 & it works pretty cool here, I think it is the problem from your USB
[21:53] <spartan2276> but keep in mind that I'm installing this on a RAID 0
[23:52] <JDAIII> just upgraded to 15.10 last week. suddenly today randomly, the 5 key will repeatedly press until I press the 5 key on my keyboard. Changed keyboards, so trying to figure out what would be sending the 5 key from stdin
[23:52] <JDAIII> ideas?
[23:52] <JDAIII> still happens after switching out keyboard
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-server
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[00:25] <stochastix> what is the best tool for managing packages right now? aptitute, apt-get ?
[00:52] <tarpman> apt-get is more actively maintained and doesn't have aptitude's tendency to propose outlandish depsolver solutions.
[00:52] <tarpman> aptitude still has more powerful features for searching and querying, though
[00:52] <tarpman> personally I use aptitude for deciding what to do and apt-get for doing it
[00:52] <tarpman> stochastix:
[00:53] <RoyK> (or apt)
[00:55] <maxb> That said, aptitude's interactive curses mode can be a very comfortable way to do things that can be painful with a pure command line
[00:56] * RoyK prefers the commandline
[00:56] <maxb> It depends on the task at hand
[01:01] <RoyK> maxb: no, it doesn't :P
[02:06] <stochastix> tarpman: thanks, that helps a bit. I did notice aptitude ENJOYS removing deps when uninstalling something.
[02:06] <stochastix> Had to reinstall a few things. :)
[02:11] <tarpman> stochastix: if you're talking about auto-remove, that's an option in both, aptitude just has it enabled by default. you can turn it off
[02:12] <stochastix> yea, ok. It is a nice way to not have stuff laying around.
[03:00] <nodist> Hello, I am trying to add a int.d script it works when you use the service s start but not on boot
[03:00] <nodist> I also have it set to defaults
[03:01] <nodist> no errors in the boot.log
[03:32] <portalBlock> Hi, I have an Ubuntu server instance running on Proxmox VE and I resized the disk (+200GB) from the panel there but in Ubuntu the disk still shows as 32GB. Can I expand it without data loss and if so, how?
[04:29] <stochastix> I got rid of php5-fpm and just installed php5. is there a service that i am supposed to run?
[04:29] <stochastix> the only service i see in there is still php5-fpm ?
[05:03] <tarpman> stochastix: sounds like you removed php5-fpm but didn't purge it, so the conffiles are still there
[05:04] <tarpman> stochastix: php5 is AFAIK just a metapackage, it doesn't include any service directly. if you didn't specify an implementation, it probably dragged in libapache2-mod-php5, so apache
[05:04] <stochastix> I see,
[05:04] <stochastix> purge with apt-get ?
[05:05] <tarpman> right
[05:05] <tarpman> you can do "dpkg-query -l | grep ^rc" to see packages you have removed but still have conffiles around for
[05:11] <stochastix> tarpman: thanks
[09:25] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:50] <zamba> i'm looking for a tool that can monitor a remote host and alert me (by using an external script) if the node is down
[10:02] <lordievader> zamba: Check out Zabbix.
[10:07] <zamba> zabbix sounds like overkill for just monitoring one host
[10:08] <lordievader> Perhaps. But most monitoring tools are made for many more hosts than one.
[10:15] <zamba> i was thinking about just running collectd
[10:25] <Chrncle> where do i find Tasksel > Basic ubuntu server install what packages contain in that option ?
[11:05] <Chrncle> hmm i cant get my ssh open to my public ip address
[11:12] <Chrncle> nevermind, forget to press add in my router table
[12:40] <arcsky> hey guys there has been an issue today with my pico/nano editor.
[12:40] <arcsky> Unable to create directory /home/arcsky/.nano: Permission denied
[12:40] <arcsky> It is required for saving/loading search history or cursor positions.
[12:42] <hateball> arcsky: make sure you're the owner of the file and not root
[12:44] <arcsky> hateball: i try just with pico test123
[12:44] <arcsky> i did reboot it and it works now
[12:47] <lordievader> arcsky: I'd check the permissions of your home dir.
[13:08] <zolder> Can i change my 192.168.1.1 to like a dns name, Router or whatever?
[13:10] <lordievader> zolder: Yes. Do you want that network wide or just for the localhost?
[14:43] <zul> jamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13299217/
[14:44] <jamespage> zul, not sure you need the < >
[14:46] <zul> jamespage: fixed
[14:47] <zul> jamespage: going to upload this
[14:47] <jamespage> zul, pls test it first
[14:59] <zul> jamespage: tested sucessfully, uploaded
[15:00] <jamespage> zul, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1516652
[15:00] <jamespage> fun fun fun!
[15:00] <zul> jamespage: damn it
[15:01] <zul> jamespage: gimme a sec :)
[15:01] <jamespage> zul, I'm not asking you todo that one :-)
[15:01] <zul> jamespage: i know how to fix it though :)
[15:02] <jamespage> zul, so do it :-)
[15:02] <zul> jamespage: fine :)
[15:07] <jamespage> zul, how does that look:
[15:07] <jamespage> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245811/
[15:09] <zul> jamespage: thats what I would have done
[15:26] <jamespage> zul, hmm something else is still blocking the scheduling of the instance correctly
[15:28] <MelRay> clear
[15:28] <zul> jamespage: anything in the logs?
[15:28] <jamespage> zul, yes
[15:28] <jamespage> 2015-11-16 15:28:21.389 5127 DEBUG nova.scheduler.filters.image_props_filter [req-f57e15c7-d8ce-478f-8da2-7f5707c7edc9 3e44cc43a4014d1f95dfc1525e798ca8 ea01071b589c47cba451e066d9073bb4 - - -] Instance contains properties {u'hypervisor_type': u'lxd', u'architecture': u'x86_64'} that are not provided by the compute node supported_instances [[u'i686', u'lxc', u'exe'], [u'x86_64', u'lxc', u'exe']] or hypervisor version 11 do not match _in
[15:28] <jamespage> stance_supported /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/scheduler/filters/image_props_filter.py:95
[15:29] <zul> jamespage: host.py in nclxd needs to be updated as well
[15:30] <jamespage> zul, the existing 'lxc' valid value will work ok for now, but yes it does need to be updated.
[15:30] <zul> [[u'i686', u'lxd', u'exe'], [u'x86_64', u'lxd', u'exe']]
[15:32] <zul> jamespage: when your nova patch gets merged ill update it
[15:46] <Yossarianuk> hi - where can I find out how long the default kernel is support for in the LTS versions ?
[15:47] <Yossarianuk> i.e originally 14.04 shipped with kernel 3.13 - when you install the latest .iso (14.04.3) you get v 3.19 - where can I find out info about kernel support ?
[15:48] <jamespage> zul, huh - but I have to set:
[15:48] <jamespage> nova flavor-key m1.tiny set capabilities:hypervisor_type=lxd
[15:48] <jamespage> not
[15:48] <jamespage> nova flavor-key m1.tiny set capabilities:hypervisor_type=lxx
[15:48] <jamespage> nova flavor-key m1.tiny set capabilities:hypervisor_type=lxc rather
[15:48] <jamespage> love consistency
[15:49] <jamespage> Yossarianuk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:49] <Yossarianuk> jamespage: thank you
[15:49] <jamespage> np
[15:51] <zul> jamespage: lol
[15:51] <zul> jamespage: i cant fix that :)
[15:52] <jamespage> zul, that feels broken
[15:52] <jamespage> zul, I think the extra specs should be matching into the advertised capabilities of the hypervisor right?
[15:52] <zul> jamespage: yes
[15:52] <jamespage> like the image properties filter does
[15:55] <MelRay> Quick question I'm learning how to configure virtual hosts. Can I add additional ServerAlias directives on the same line seperated by a space or do I need to create an individual entry for each alias?
[15:55] <MelRay> for like www, mail, ftp, etc.
[17:55] <omps> ls -l
[17:55] <omps> oops
[17:57] <uaa> Hi, I've usb 3.0 4TB external harddisk. when I connect it to an Ubuntu server I get this in logs and it's not recognized afterward http://paste.ubuntu.com/13300481/
[17:58] <teward> I/O error sounds like hardware failure, does this device work on other machines?
[17:59] <uaa> It was working well on USB 2 but after I enabled USB 3 in the server the problem started
[17:59] <uaa> Thank you for responding quickly
[18:00] <sarnold> do any other usb devices work in that port?
[18:00] <sarnold> is there sufficient power for the device?
[18:01] <uaa> I used the same port last week with other device but USB3 was not enabled
[18:02] <uaa> The only difference now that I got usb 3.0 extension cable and enabled usb 3.0 from motherboard
[18:02] <hallyn> arges: going to have time to merge libvirt this week?
[18:02] <uaa> the server is remote but I would like to know if can do something before I have to go there to figure it out
[18:03] <uaa> and to try other things on that port
[18:04] <teward> uaa: only thing you can do is physically go there and poke at it.
[18:04] <teward> see if it works on other ports, and test if something else is on that port and works or not
[18:05] <sarnold> I guess you could try booting into a newer kernel, e.g. one of the HWE kernels, to see if it might have been a bug that's been addressed or a device needing some additional driver support
[18:05] <sarnold> but switching to one of the hwe kernels means you'll have to deal with the kernels again when the HWE kernels hit EOL before the rest of the system.
[18:06] <uaa> sarnold, thanks for your suggestion but I do not think that playing with kernel would be an option on that server.
[18:07] <teward> that leaves physically going to the system :p
[18:07] <uaa> teward, I'll try that when I can
[18:07] <omps> uaa: it looks like the problem is with xhci_hcd kernel driver for usb3.0
[18:08] <uaa> but I wonder why It was mentioned as sdb in the log then disappeared. I can not see in /dev/sdx or using fdisk or any disk tool that I used
[18:09] <arges> hallyn: its on my list
[18:09] <omps> uaa: i found this article on net hope this can help you
[18:09] <omps> http://www.pcl-developers.org/xhci-hcd-I-hate-you-USB-3-0-and-Primesense-Asus-Xtion-td5707949.html
[18:09] <uaa> omps, I'll check if xhci driver is lastest version
[18:11] <uaa> thank you for helping
[19:35] <arcsky> how can i list my ntp servers my ubuntu use ?
[19:36] <SCHAAP137> arcsky: check in /etc/ntp.conf
[19:57] <tarpman> arcsky: also, ntpq -p
[21:30] <rco> Is there a most popular option for a local DNS cache on ubuntu 14.04?
[21:33] <dasjoe> The default cache would be dnsmasq
[21:33] <rco> Is it part of the distribution?
[21:34] <dasjoe> It's installed by default, iirc at least on desktop systems. Unsure about server
[21:35] <rco> Yeah, that's what it looks like.
[21:35] <dasjoe> rco: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dnsmasq&searchon=names&suite=trusty§ion=all and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq
[21:35] <rco> Thanks.
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[07:16] <Mirv> cihelp: cleaning up Ubuntu's sponsoring queue, can you set the following to Work in Progress or Rejected? https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-test-cases/fix_minimal_image_size_test/+merge/235298 and https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/remove-ceph-lxc-floodlight/+merge/240144 and https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/lvm-grub-preseed-fix/+merge/258620 (or otherw
[07:16] <Mirv> ise handle them)
[07:28] <blr> t
[07:28] <blr> err nevermind that, screen misbehaving. :)
[08:31] <jibel> infinity, could you have a look at bug 1516526 ?
[08:31] <ubot5`> bug 1516526 in Canonical System Image "devel-proposed images fail to build" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516526
[08:38] <infinity> jibel: That's ogra's mess, generally.
[08:38] <infinity> (And you also share a timezone :P)
[08:39] <jibel> infinity, okay :)
[08:40] <jibel> ogra_, can you look at ^^
[08:40] * infinity goes to bed.
[09:10] <psivaa> Mirv: I'll reject my MP's out of them. If the server team need them, they'll have to do it themselves then. Have notified them a few times
[09:19] <Mirv> psivaa: thanks!
[09:22] <psivaa> Mirv: for the other MP, that om26er, you'd need him or QA team
[09:22] <psivaa> s/that om26er/that om26er's MP/
[09:23] <om26er> Mirv, psivaa deleted.
[09:23] <Mirv> om26er: thanks for that too!
[09:23] * Mirv is patch piloting today
[10:09] <bzoltan> Mirv: I need help with that silo55
[10:19] <Mirv> bzoltan: ok
[10:19] <Mirv> sil2100: ok I now got raof to copy-package last xenial package from stable overlay :) needs to be kept watching still if someone happens to land something there.
[10:20] <Mirv> bzoltan: you plan to later ship the new source that ships identically named "ubuntu-sdk-qmake-extras" binary package?
[10:21] <Mirv> I think that was the plan. In that case I don't think we even need to remove the old binary from archives.
[10:23] <bzoltan> Mirv: we have this project and can land it anytime to anywhere - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-sdk-qmake-extras/trunk
[10:23] <bzoltan> Mirv: And yes, it should be landed on the archive too
[10:25] <Mirv> bzoltan: ok. so 055 was published now, feel free to land that next at some point when you have time.
[10:25] <bzoltan> Mirv: thanks
[11:48] <alf_> cihelp: Hi! All mir-mediumtests-vivid-touch jobs are failing due to what seems to be a CI infrastructure issue (perhaps due to the upgrade?), and this is blocking all Mir CI/autolanding jobs. For example, http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/mir-mediumtests-vivid-touch/4821/console . Any idea what's going on?
[11:50] <psivaa> alf_: looking
[11:50] <alf_> psivaa: thanks
[12:00] * cjwatson truncates the apt-mirror history (used for creating archive snapshots) to 2015-04-01, in an attempt to avoid periodically killing snakefruit
[12:04] <sil2100> cjwatson: ok!
[12:42] <psivaa> alf_: jfyi, i've made a change to that job config and testing that atm
[12:42] <alf_> psivaa: ack, thanks
[12:59] <greyback_> trainguards: any ideas why qtmir isn't migrating: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#qtmir ?
[12:59] <greyback_> "invalidated by dependency"?
[12:59] <sil2100> greyback_: looks to me it's caused by liburcu
[13:00] <sil2100> greyback_: I suppose invalidated by dependency means that it's not a valid candidate because one of its dependencies cannot migrate
[13:00] <sil2100> greyback_: in this case it's mir, which is invalidated by liburcu
[13:00] <sil2100> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#liburcu
[13:01] <sil2100> But that's my guess, I didn't really see the 'invalidated by dependency' sign before
[13:01] <greyback_> sil2100: understood, thanks for looking. I shall be patient so
[13:02] <cjwatson> sil2100: yes, that's what it means
[13:03] <cjwatson> greyback_: Ah, so liburcu needs us to upgrade the ppc64el builder guests to wily
[13:03] <greyback_> aha ,now I follow what "not considered" actually implies
[13:03] <cjwatson> greyback_: That's in gradual progress, but I didn't realise it was going to be blocking mir
[13:04] <greyback_> I didn't expect that either tbh
[13:04] <cjwatson> greyback_: Let me see if I can move that on today
[13:04] <greyback_> cjwatson: no big hurry, but thanks
[13:06] <cjwatson> Oh, I know where that ticket stopped, there was a failure to deploy wily guests on arm64 which we needed to look into ... sigh, getting back to downloading a cloud image there
[14:03] <nerochiaro> cihelp: any idea why the logs on the CI run on this MR are not accessible ? https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/messaging-app/stickers/+merge/277446
[14:07] <josepht> nerochiaro: jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com currently has the CLI disabled due to a zero-day security issue hence our private jenkins aren't able to publish to it. If you have VPN access you should be able to replace 'jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com' with 's-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080' to see the logs
[14:07] <nerochiaro> josepht: thanks
[14:07] <josepht> nerochiaro: and http:// rather than https://
[14:09] <nerochiaro> josepht: An error occurred during a connection to s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080. SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long
[14:09] <nerochiaro> josepht: on firefox
[14:09] <josepht> nerochiaro: did you use http:// ?
[14:13] <kgunn> trainguards is something wrong with silo 49 ? "in proposed" would have thot it'd be landed this morning
[14:15] <rvr> mardy: ping
[14:15] <nerochiaro> josepht: my mistake. works with hhp
[14:15] <nerochiaro> http, even
[14:15] <nerochiaro> thanks
[14:15] <mardy> rvr: pong
[14:15] <rvr> mardy: Hey
[14:16] <rvr> mardy: I just finished testing the pending silo
[14:16] <rvr> mardy: With silo 1, it doesn't crash with the old and new click, so it's ok
[14:16] <rvr> mardy: However, it doesn't propmpt to create any Flickr account
[14:16] <rvr> mardy: Can you confirm that is right?
[14:17] <mardy> rvr: yes, because of the apparmor denial that you saw
[14:18] <rvr> mardy: I see ... Error: "An AppArmor policy prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient; type="method_call", sender=":1.230"
[14:18] <rvr> mardy: Another question. Test ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/password-query has been failing for a while. Can you fix it or update the test case?
[14:18] <mardy> rvr: the apparmor thing is bug 1512667
[14:19] <ubot5`> bug 1512667 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Enable Online Accounts v2 on vivid overlay PPA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512667
[14:19] <psivaa> alf_: so http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/mir-mediumtests-vivid-touch/4823/console now ran the jobs that were required but one of them has failuers
[14:19] <mardy> rvr: it's actually fixed with silo 58
[14:20] <mardy> rvr: the test is correct, the current trunk is wrong
[14:20] <rvr> mardy: Ah, great. Approving this silo :)
[14:20] <psivaa> alf_: the actual failure is in http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/mir-mediumtests-runner-touch/7404/consoleText
[14:20] <mardy> rvr: cool, thanks!
[14:21] <psivaa> alf_: could have caused due to '/bin/bash: line 1: 5897 Segmentation fault (core dumped) mir_demo_server --test-client /usr/bin/mir_demo_client_eglflash' and the likes
[14:22] <alf_> psivaa: Thanks, that's a known/pre-existing failure. As long as the build runs I am happy. Thanks for fixing this.
[14:24] <psivaa> alf_: np
[14:28] <kgunn> trainguards just fyi, silo 49 sticking in proposed causing some issues for high priority item behind it...effecting silo 20
[14:39] <cjwatson> kgunn: I explained the current blocker for that above, not sure what you expect trainguards to do ...
[14:40] <kgunn> cjwatson: thanks, sorry for the noise
[14:41] <mterry> sil2100, how come devel-proposed hasn't had images in a week? (if because of the fail-to-boot bug, that is recently maybe fixed?)
[14:41] <kgunn> cjwatson: as for expectations, what is the best practice for getting help when things get stuck in proposed (in a generic sense)
[14:41] <kgunn> ?
[14:42] <cjwatson> kgunn: well it entirely depends. greyback_ asked here and that was reasonable enough. learning more about how to debug it yourselves is good too (e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration)
[14:42] <jibel> mterry, it's bug 1516526
[14:42] <ubot5`> bug 1516526 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "xenial ubuntu-touch rootfs fail to build" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516526
[14:43] <cjwatson> kgunn: but it's a bit like asking what the best practice for getting help with a build failure is, there can be a variety of causes
[14:43] <cjwatson> kgunn: this one is unusually opaque, I'll admit
[14:43] <mterry> jibel, ah cool thanks. Poor devel-proposed can't catch a break
[14:43] <ogra_> jibel, mterry, i'll merge that in a moment (sorry, was busy weith meetings)
[14:44] <cjwatson> kgunn: (the question I asked to Odd_Bloke on #ubuntu-devel just now pertains to this, a little indirectly)
[14:44] <jibel> sil2100, can you rebuild a devel-porposed image once it's fixed, better know sooner than later if there is anything left to have a bootable image
[14:47] <ogra_> sil2100, jibel, mterry livecd-rootfs fix uploaded
[16:26] <jibel> bfiller, Kaleo ^
[16:26] <sil2100> \o/
[16:26] <sil2100> Should I publish?
[16:26] <bfiller> sil2100: ppa hasn't published yet
[16:27] <bfiller> sil2100: actually it has
[16:27] <bfiller> sil2100: yes please
[16:27] <sil2100> bfiller: could you upload to the store? Or do you need this to land first?
[16:28] <sil2100> Publishing in progress
[16:28] <bfiller> sil2100: I need it to land in trunk then need to build a click from trunk
[16:33] <bfiller> sil2100: can you force merge please on the camera silo?
[16:34] <sil2100> bfiller: hm, ok, in this case let's do that
[16:36] <bfiller> sil2100, jibel : building final click now
[16:37] <sil2100> \o/
[16:40] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2, robru, rvr: I suppose all OTA-8 related work is known now, let's skip the meeting and just concentrate on getting an image built and copied to RC
[16:40] <rvr> sil2100: Ok
[16:42] <jibel> sil2100, soulds like a plan
[16:42] <jibel> sounds*
[16:50] <bfiller> jibel, sil2100: camera-app uploaded to store, needs approval from popey
[16:50] <popey> on it
[16:51] <popey> bfiller, approved
[16:52] <bfiller> popey: ty
[16:55] <Kaleo> bfiller, jibel: outstanding!
[16:56] <Kaleo> popey, thank you :)
[16:58] <oSoMoN> rvr, hey man, how is testing of silo 39 going? need anything from me?
[16:58] <rvr> oSoMoN: Finished
[16:58] <rvr> oSoMoN: It's ok
[16:58] <oSoMoN> excellent, thanks a lot!
[17:00] <jibel> bfiller, sil2100 for next OTA it is not 2 days earlier wee need for freeze but 2 weeks ;)
[17:01] <oSoMoN> jibel, what’s this "Requesting autopkgtests for this silo..." status on silo 39? is this new? should I wait for something to complete before I request publication?
[17:01] <jibel> oSoMoN, it's a bug in the UI apparently
[17:02] <jibel> oSoMoN, I tried the new autopkgtest feature robru added to the train, but apparently it is not ready for prime time
[17:02] <jibel> oSoMoN, you can publish if it's ready
[17:02] <oSoMoN> ok, thanks!
[17:04] <oSoMoN> trainguards: who can publish silo 39 for me?
[17:05] <sil2100> oSoMoN: hmm... I think we need to poke mterry or kenvandine again :)
[17:05] <sil2100> kenvandine, mterry: ^
[17:05] <oSoMoN> sil2100, can you confirm that with the configuration of the request, the packages will land in the xenial archive and in the overlay PPA for vivid?
[17:05] <oSoMoN> (never too sure about it)
[17:10] <robru> oSoMoN: you ned a core dev, I usually poke kenvandine at this time of day
[17:10] * oSoMoN pokes kenvandine
[17:11] <robru> oSoMoN: yes it's configured correctly. all you need to remember is that the vivid half of a dual always goes to overlay, so the destppa field controls only where xenial goes.
[17:12] <oSoMoN> robru, that’s what I thought, thanks for confirming
[17:12] <robru> oSoMoN: you're welcome
[17:12] <robru> kgunn: if you are particularly blocked by silo 49 we can force merge the silo but would rather not if we can avoid it
[17:15] <mterry> sil2100, I can look
[17:15] <mterry> sil2100, 39?
[17:18] <robru> mterry: yeah, thanks
[17:20] <sil2100> bfiller: did the click get approved?
[17:20] <bfiller> sil2100: yes
[17:20] <sil2100> Can I kick a new image then?
[17:20] <sil2100> hmmm
[17:22] <sil2100> Copying to the stable snapshot now
[17:24] <sil2100> Will be kicking the image shortly...
[17:25] <kgunn> robru: we gotta workaroudn
[17:25] <kgunn> thanks tho
[17:26] <cjwatson> kgunn: https://portal.admin.canonical.com/85976 if you want to track the work we're doing to fix liburcu
[17:26] <kgunn> ta
[17:33] <oSoMoN> mterry, thanks!
[18:15] <robru> sil2100: slangasek: is there anything for the meeting? I propose we skip
[18:15] <slangasek> robru: how's silo autopkgtest coming?
[18:15] <robru> slangasek: you mean britney?
[18:15] <slangasek> yes
[18:16] <robru> slangasek: still in the investigation phase. a little behind on the silo status rework I started last week
[18:16] <slangasek> robru: ok. I'm ok to cancel for today if sil2100 is, then, but let's sync up later in the week
[18:17] <robru> slangasek: alright
[18:21] <dobey> did ota8 get released yet?
[18:24] <robru> brb
[18:25] <sil2100> ACK here
[18:28] <sil2100> I'm anyway busy with preparing the OTA-8 re-spin now ;)
[18:54] <kenvandine> cihelp: anyone know why the jenkins links to CI jobs are broken?
[19:05] <fginther> kenvandine, There are some pending updates needed to the public jenkins service that is preventing the internal jenkins from publishing out to the public one. This is all after having to apply a critical update
[19:05] <kenvandine> that's what i was wondering
[19:06] <kenvandine> but trying to find the same on the private jenkins looks weird
[19:07] <kenvandine> fginther, looking at the downstream build view of the latest failed, shows a bunch of NOT_BUILT status
[19:07] <kenvandine> fginther, http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/ubuntu-system-settings-ci/lastFailedBuild/downstreambuildview/
[19:07] <fginther> kenvandine, oh, there was a secondary problem too
[19:08] <fginther> kenvandine, I think that's the other problem, but am looking
[19:08] <kenvandine> ok
[19:08] <kenvandine> fginther, is there a way to find the failed jobs?
[19:09] <kenvandine> http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/ubuntu-system-settings-ci/2483/
[19:09] <kenvandine> for example
[19:14] <fginther> kenvandine, you can just do a string replace from "https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com" to "http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/"
[19:15] <fginther> kenvandine, the other problem I mentioned was that the jobs to execute the autopilot tests on phones was missing from some of the job configurations (and showing up as missing jobs)
[19:27] <kenvandine> fginther, thx
[19:28] <kenvandine> fginther, ah... looks like there was a configuration issue for settings
[19:28] <kenvandine> ERROR: Build aborted. No projects to trigger. Check your configuration!
[19:29] <kenvandine> fginther, is that being worked on already?
[19:29] <fginther> kenvandine, that was caused by the second problem, which has been fixed. Retriggering the parent job should work to re-run everything now
[19:32] <kenvandine> fginther, thx
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-si
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[06:09] <napsy_> jutro
[06:09] <zdobersek> ey
[06:45] <slax0r_> jutri
[06:45] <slax0r_> jutro*
[06:50] <zdobersek> tudi jutri bo jutro!
[06:50] <zdobersek> barring any gamma ray
[06:53] <zdobersek> MOTHERF-
[07:24] <slax0r> humph
[07:24] <slax0r> a to drzi da ce imas dva IPja v DNS in en ni dosegljiv, browser oz. kater kol drug client avtomatsko proba se drug IP?
[07:24] <slax0r> to se mi zdi malo.. za lase privleceno
[07:25] <zdobersek> zakaj pa ne?
[07:26] <slax0r> a si preprican?
[07:26] <zdobersek> v cem je pol smisel drugege IPja?
[07:26] <zdobersek> drugega
[07:27] <slax0r> vprasam, ker sem pred nekaj leti to sprobaval in se mi zdi da ni ravno tak delalo, morda se motim
[07:28] <slax0r> pac ce sem zagnal ping domain.com je prvic pingal IP1, drugic IP2
[07:28] <slax0r> ampak ce sem recim na IP1 ugasnu httpd potem je stran loadal sam na vsak drug request
[07:28] <slax0r> I might be wrong though
[07:29] <zdobersek> y yo tambien
[08:38] <dz0ny> Slaxor it's random, naključno vzame en al pa drug IP
[08:39] <slax0r> dz0ny: ja, round robin... ampak vprasanje je ce DNS vrne nazaj IP1, in je IP1 down, bo browser se enkrat naredil se eno poizvedbo na DNS in pobral IP2?
[08:39] <slax0r> malo se mi zdi to tako...za lase privleceno
[08:39] <slax0r> ce DNS vraca vedno en IP, potem drug request ni garantiran da bo dobil IP2
[08:41] <zdobersek> tis but the internet
[08:41] <zdobersek> where cat pics are packed into packets
[08:44] <pitastrudl> kaj kdo ve zakaj wakeonlan kar neha delati po nekem času
[08:44] <pitastrudl> včeraj sem komot zbudil pc ki je šel v sleep
[08:44] <pitastrudl> zjutraj pa ne
[08:50] <zdobbie> eyyyy
[08:51] <zdobbie> I'm in ur DNS, fecking up everything
[08:56] <CrazyLemon> a bi kdo vedel kaj je lahko vzrok shutdowna, ki se zgodi enkrat ko ventilator dela s polno močjo X sekund?
[08:57] <CrazyLemon> torej če idlea dela brez težav in se ne shutdowna..ko pa začne delat s polno močjo pa se računalnik izklopi?
[08:57] <CrazyLemon> a je smth electrical?
[08:59] <zdobersek> liftoff sequence aborted?
[08:59] <CrazyLemon> yea :/
[09:17] <CrazyLemon> http://www.rtvslo.si/moja-generacija/dobro-pocutje/prehrana/nesplje-pomladi-in-poleti-krasijo-vrt-jeseni-pa-popestrijo-jedilnik/378759
[09:17] <Pepelka> Nešplje pomladi in poleti krasijo vrt, jeseni pa popestrijo jedilnik :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[09:17] <Pepelka> »Tisti, ki imate doma nešplje, se z njimi lahko že nekaj časa sladkate.«
[09:18] <zdobersek> 'spletno mesto za zrela leta'
[09:18] <zdobersek> makes sense
[09:18] <CrazyLemon> lol
[09:18] <CrazyLemon> bastard
[09:18] <CrazyLemon> :D
[09:21] <zdobbie> pitastrudl: can you witness the rrrrreekt
[09:21] <pitastrudl> wat
[09:26] <dz0ny> slax0r: ne bo :)
[09:28] <Sky[x]> lp
[09:29] <slax0r> dz0ny: saj pravim, se mi je zdel fishy
[09:36] <dz0ny> lol http://i.imgur.com/LdaQnUF.png
[09:36] <dz0ny> sounds like cia op
[09:37] <CrazyLemon> sounds like romanian druglord to me
[09:39] <zdobersek> kaj bluziste
[09:39] <zdobersek> ISP s tor nodeom v pisarni
[09:39] <zdobersek> kokr ce bi mel Telekom node na Tobacni
[09:39] <zdobersek> M247 Europe SRL. Sos. Fabrica de Glucoza, Nr 11B, etaj 1, Sector 2, Bucuresti
[09:40] <zdobersek> ni lih ISP, zgleda bolj hosting provider
[09:41] <CrazyLemon> druglord it is
[09:49] <zdobbie> huh
[09:49] <zdobbie> cez teden to 20 stopinj, v soboto pa ponoc sneg
[09:49] <zdobbie> mmmmkay
[09:52] <CrazyLemon> zakaj je youtube samo 360p prek live usbja?
[09:53] <zdobersek> blame the APU
[09:53] <CrazyLemon> i would..but its not apu
[09:53] <zdobersek> but It knows you're using an APU
[09:54] <CrazyLemon> but i'm not
[09:54] <yang> zdobersek: ISP/Hosting provider so ja http://bgp.he.net/AS9009
[09:54] <zdobersek> ... Brits
[09:55] <zdobersek> the plot doth thicken!
[09:55] <zdobersek> thicketh*
[10:00] <CrazyLemon> torej..zalaufam povray prek live usbja.. neki casa zadeva dela
[10:01] <CrazyLemon> tam pri 40% ko ventilator zacne laufat na polno
[10:01] <CrazyLemon> pa "tplonk" in se ugasne
[10:01] <CrazyLemon> torej..what am i missing here
[10:02] <Sky[x]> dz0ny: se ti j ze kdaj zgodil da imas na dockerju razlicn ip gateway? :)
[10:02] <Sky[x]> local mam drugac kot na produkciji :>
[10:02] <Sky[x]> in sem vec primerov najdu
[10:33] <CrazyLemon> TIL da ima ARM design office v sloveniji
[10:43] <dz0ny> Sky[x]: nope k ne uporablam osx :D
[11:02] <Sky[x]> dz0ny: ni samo na osx vezano sem ugotovil :)
[12:10] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[12:10] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 14°C @16.11.2015 11:30 UTC.
[12:10] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 72% severozahodnik 1.6 m/s (5.8 km/h)
[12:10] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:06:21, Kulminacija: 10:51:12, Sončni zahod: 15:36:02
[12:11] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 29min 42s, Luna je v ščipu
[12:41] <msev-> CrazyLemon, kko to da spet nešplje promoviraš a maš sadovnjak
[12:41] <msev-> :D
[12:48] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: design o' what?
[12:58] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek microcontrollers
[12:58] <CrazyLemon> msev- ne..hotu sm da se mal poucite
[13:04] <zdobersek> v Sentjerneju
[13:04] <zdobersek> kul
[13:05] <zdobersek> 5 dovolj dobrih struckotov, da jih ne silijo v tujino
[13:46] <Sky[x]> http://blog.docker.com/2015/11/scale-testing-docker-swarm-30000-containers/
[13:46] <Pepelka> Scale Testing Docker Swarm to 30,000 Containers | Docker Blog
[13:46] <Pepelka> »1,000 nodes, 30,000 containers, 1 Swarm manager Swarm is the easiest way to run Docker app in production. It lets you take an an app that you’ve built in development and deploy it across a cluster …«
[15:16] <CrazyLemon> 2.5k km !
[15:19] <zdobersek> so what!
[15:22] <yang> kera firma je v sentjerneju ?
[15:32] <zdobersek> ARM
[15:32] <yang> arm.si
[15:33] <zdobersek> tist ARM k ga mas v tulifonu
[15:33] <yang> huh
[15:33] <yang> ARM Ltd. zgleda kot Angleska firma
[15:34] <yang> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Holdings
[15:34] <Pepelka> ARM Holdings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[15:34] <zdobersek> http://www.arm.com/about/company-profile/locations-around-the-world.php
[15:34] <Pepelka> Locations Around the World - ARM
[15:34] <Pepelka> »ARM locations around the world«
[15:35] <yang> zanimivo
[15:36] <yang> wildea01 [wildea01@nat/arm/x-kzgpifxmyponsqee] has joined #vax
[15:57] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBAzwPPm0Kg
[15:57] <Pepelka> Full interview: Bernie Sanders, November 15 - YouTube
[15:57] <Pepelka> »Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders talks with “Face the Nation” host John Dickerson fresh off the second primary debate Saturday night. He disc...«
[15:57] <idioterna> feeling the bern yet?
[16:00] <CrazyLemon> damn..you really like bernie dont you
[16:03] <CrazyLemon> http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2015/11/16/the-most-popular-curl-download-by-a-malware/
[16:03] <Pepelka> The most popular curl download – by a malware | daniel.haxx.se
[16:04] <yang> bernie je boljsi sam Hillary bo pa zmagala, ker ima vecjo prepoznavnost in vecji budget
[16:06] <CrazyLemon> pa nima tauznt let
[16:23] <zdobersek> ageist!
[16:38] <CrazyLemon> ti si geist
[16:55] <netkat> http://www.nextmagazine.com/content/donald-trump-really-made-little-dicks
[16:55] <Pepelka> Donald Trump Is Really Made of Little Dicks | Next Magazine
[17:50] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSgdJtIm0Y
[17:50] <Pepelka> Traders go NUTS during recent Bitcoin price surge [pit audio] - YouTube
[17:50] <Pepelka> »Live audio recorded on 30th October 2015, from the Whaleclub Teamspeak server at www.whaleclub.org Video footage is of OKCOIN Quarterly Bitcoin Futures. Bitc...«
[18:21] <zdobersek> hva poj
[18:24] <netkat> upd bos ze vidu te bitcoine http://thehackernews.com/2015/11/paris-attacks-isis-funding.html
[18:24] <Pepelka> Hackers claim ISIS Militants linked to Paris Attacks had a Bitcoin Wallet worth $3 Million - The Hacker News
[18:24] <netkat> vas bojo lovili k une s playstationi
[18:25] <upd> netkat, sej € pa $ majo tud.
[18:26] <netkat> :)
[18:42] <dz0ny> http://i.imgur.com/OcXeR1i.jpg
[18:43] <speed-> :)
[18:53] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny a si kdaj komu rihtal na windowsih fan control?
[18:54] <zdobersek> wrong channel
[18:55] <CrazyLemon> is it?
[18:55] <zdobersek> pretty much
[18:55] <CrazyLemon> but not really
[18:56] <zdobersek> but yes virtually
[18:56] <yang> haha Pray for Paris
[18:56] <yang> (Hilton:)
[19:03] <zdobersek> idioterna: a je kej v planu?
[19:05] <dz0ny> Crazylemon never
[19:22] <idioterna> zdobersek: mpt s,p
[19:22] <idioterna> not smo
[19:22] <idioterna> zdobersek: lots of us
[21:24] <yang> Microsoft <[email protected]>
[21:24] <yang>
[21:24] <yang> 10:22 PM (1 minute ago)
[21:24] <yang>
[21:24] <yang> to
[21:24] <yang> si zmagal za konec leta nagrado devetsto tisoč, pošljite svoje ime, svojo državo in svojo telefonsko številko
[21:25] <pitastrudl> lol
[21:29] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie nism te zanalasc no..sam si skocu in the line of fire
[21:33] <pitastrudl> http://i.imgur.com/1w1P3Fs.png
[21:33] <pitastrudl> islamic peoples
[21:33] <pitastrudl> topkek
[22:00] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: suuuure
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-sa
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[02:00] <Alkaffcg> Hi
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.099283
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-africa
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[08:40] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[08:58] <craigbrash> hellooo South Africa
[09:54] <Kilos> bit cooler today craigbrash `
[10:01] <craigbrash> much nicer here too , had some rain last night brought temps down :)
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.100604
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-vn
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[14:42] <vubuntor625> em bị lỗi tên người dùng ubuntu khi cài bằng wubi
[14:42] <vubuntor625> sửa ntn đây
[14:43] <vubuntor625> có ai không vậy
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.108073
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[16:43] <Inshal> hi guys
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:23.111335
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2015-11-16-#juju-dev
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[01:19] <axw> thumper: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3149/ -- FYI
[01:20] <axw> thumper: I'd be keen to know if you still get errors with this applied, since I had to really work hard to get the peergrouper to reliably fail
[01:26] <menn0> thumper: and another easy one: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3150/
[01:26] <thumper> axw: I'll grab it down and try
[01:29] <thumper> axw: yay, that looks like it fixed it, for me at least
[01:29] <axw> thumper: sweet
[01:52] <axw> menn0 thumper: can I retarget https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1516144 to a different series? it's blocking master but it's not on the master branch...
[01:52] <mup> Bug #1516144: Cannot deploy charms in jes envs <blocker> <charms> <ci> <regression> <juju-core:Fix Committed by menno.smits> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516144>
[01:52] <thumper> axw: yeah, it is
[01:53] <axw> thumper: oh. job says functional-jes
[01:53] <thumper> axw: menn0 is currently looking at it
[01:53] <axw> ok then
[01:53] <thumper> yes it is the master branch, but the JES test
[01:53] <axw> righto
[01:53] <axw> sorry
[01:53] <thumper> menn0 has fixed one of the problems, but CI failed again with an IP address error
[01:54] <thumper> so... weird
[02:18] <menn0> thumper: if I repeat what the CI test does with the local provider it all works
[02:18] <menn0> thumper: trying with joyent now
[02:58] <thumper> menn0: any joy with joyent?
[03:06] <menn0> thumper: everything works fine when I do it manually
[03:06] <menn0> with local provider and joyent
[03:06] <thumper> FFS
[03:06] <menn0> i'm going to look over the logs from the test failure again in more detail
[03:07] <thumper> I'd reply to the curse email, and make sure it is addressed to Curtis and Aaron, cc juju-dev
[03:07] <thumper> let them know
[03:08] <menn0> the test is seeing the dummy-source/0 unit in the first hosted environment is in an error state
[03:08] <menn0> no idea why or how
[03:08] <thumper> hmm
[03:09] <menn0> thumper: the test is passing a config.yaml to create-environment
[03:09] <menn0> I wonder if that is broken somehow
[03:09] <menn0> I kinda guessed with that
[03:09] <thumper> hmm..
[03:35] <thumper> menn0: there is a cursed email to reply to now
[03:36] <menn0> thumper: thanks, I will
[03:36] <menn0> thumper: I'm using the actual CI test script now
[04:40] <mup> Bug #1331151 changed: 'juju destroy-environment' sometimes errors <destroy-environment> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1331151>
[04:49] <davecheney> axw: ping ?
[04:49] <axw> davecheney: pong
[04:50] <davecheney> axw: you mentioned you had some fixes for the peergrouper ?
[04:50] <davecheney> did they land ?
[04:50] <davecheney> ?
[04:50] <axw> davecheney: no, master is blocked
[04:51] <axw> davecheney: fixes here: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3149/
[04:57] <davecheney> axw: crap
[05:01] <mgz> menn0: is there some trick to getting hosted env... oh, oh dear
[05:01] <mgz> # TODO(gz): May want to gather logs from hosted env here.
[05:09] <davecheney> thumper: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1516498
[05:09] <mup> Bug #1516498: api/unitassigner: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516498>
[05:16] <mup> Bug #1516498 opened: api/unitassigner: data race <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516498>
[08:20] <jam> dimitern: ping
[08:25] <dimitern> jam, hey, sorry I missed our 1:1 :/
[08:43] <jam> dimitern: np, maybe we can chat after the standup if you have anything you want to go over
[08:48] <dimitern> jam, sure, ok
[09:14] <rogpeppe> this PR updates juju-core to the latest charm package version: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3152/)
[09:14] <rogpeppe> reviews appreciated :)
[09:38] <mup> Bug #1516541 opened: payload/api/private: tests do not pass <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516541>
[09:41] <mup> Bug #1516541 changed: payload/api/private: tests do not pass <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516541>
[09:44] <mup> Bug #1516541 opened: payload/api/private: tests do not pass <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516541>
[10:01] <dimitern> jam, frobware, standup?
[10:46] <dimitern> frobware, dooferlad, voidspace, please take a look when you have a moment - http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3153/ - almost straight cherry pick from the 1.25 fix for bug 1483879
[10:46] <mup> Bug #1483879: MAAS provider: terminate-machine --force or destroy-environment don't DHCP release container IPs <bug-squad> <destroy-machine> <landscape> <maas-provider> <sts> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Won't Fix> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483879>
[11:03] <frobware> voidspace, ok to start?
[11:03] <voidspace> frobware: yep, omw
[11:10] <dimitern> frankban, hey, do you have any idea when the guibundles branch will land on master?
[11:18] <frankban> dimitern: it is already landed on master
[11:18] <frankban> dimitern: because it was merged on the chicago-cubs one
[11:18] <dimitern> frankban, awesome! so juju deploy bundle.yaml is usable?
[11:18] <frankban> dimitern: yes
[11:19] <dimitern> frankban, nice! I'll give it a try now :) it's pity it's not mentioned in juju deploy help
[11:19] <frankban> dimitern: it should be mentioned actually
[11:20] <dimitern> frankban, oh, sorry - I missed it - it's there
[11:20] <frankban> dimitern: cool
[11:26] <dimitern> sweet! juju deploy bundle.yaml works just fine with spaces constraints
[11:27] <frankban> dimitern: \o/
[11:27] * frankban lunches
[11:39] <dimitern> frobware, dooferlad, voidspace, I have another review for you to look at when you can - http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3155/ - fixes spaces-based deployments on ec2 and brings feature parity between master and 1.25
[11:40] <voidspace> dimitern: is that a straight forward port?
[11:41] <dimitern> voidspace, yes, no changes needed
[11:41] <voidspace> dimitern: you don't need a review then if it's already been reviewed
[11:41] <voidspace> dimitern: but LGTM :-)
[11:41] <dimitern> voidspace, it still needs a review :) thanks!
[11:42] <voidspace> dimitern: I don't think we're re-reviewing stuff that is a straight port between branches
[11:43] <voidspace> dimitern: at least I and other people haven't been :-)
[11:43] <voidspace> dimitern: and it doesn't seem like a good use of time
[11:43] <dimitern> voidspace, it still needs a ship it stamp
[11:43] <voidspace> dimitern: that isn't what we've been doing
[11:43] <dimitern> voidspace, isn't it?
[11:43] <voidspace> dimitern: no
[11:43] <frobware> dooferlad, would dimitern's change have any impact to your CI tests? ^^
[11:44] <voidspace> dimitern: and people shouldn't "Ship It" *without* reviewing it
[11:44] <dimitern> voidspace, I agree
[11:44] <voidspace> dimitern: and re-reviewing it is a waste of everyone's time
[11:44] <dimitern> voidspace, not if you reviewed it the first time I guess
[11:45] <voidspace> dimitern: heh, well possibly
[11:45] <frobware> dimitern, voidspace: cherry-pick backports that have already been reviewed shouldn't need re-reviewing, IMO.
[11:45] <dimitern> frobware, ok, I don't mind at all to just land it then :)
[11:45] <voidspace> if they need substantive changes then a re-review is reasonable
[11:46] <dooferlad> frobware: it shouldn't have any impact on tests.
[11:46] <frobware> dimitern, my only observation is for the CI tests
[11:46] <voidspace> dooferlad: how far off getting to the maas test server are you?
[11:46] <voidspace> dooferlad: I'm going to need it "soon-ish"
[11:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: I just ran into a KVM not appearing for one of my tests, which may be due to mhy MAAS or may be just flake.
[11:47] <dooferlad> voidspace: once I have that sorted I will have got the review answered I was looking at and can get on with the test server
[11:48] <dooferlad> voidspace: so, this afternoon.
[11:48] <voidspace> dooferlad: ok
[11:49] <dimitern> frobware, voidspace, thanks for the Ship It! anyway guys :)
[12:36] <dimitern> frobware, dooferlad, voidspace, yet another for you to review - a really small one this time - http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3156/ fixes bug 1499426
[12:36] <mup> Bug #1499426: deploying a service to a space which has no subnets causes the agent to panic <network> <juju-core:In Progress by dimitern> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499426>
[13:36] <dimitern> frobware, thanks for the review - I've replied and updated the PR
[13:46] <mattyw> fwereade, ping?
[13:46] <fwereade> mattyw, pong
[14:43] <frobware> dimitern, are you waiting for a review on http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3153/ I ask because I saw that it was being merged.
[14:50] <alexisb> thank you wwitzel3 and katco !
[14:50] <katco> alexisb: yep, we'll get it figured out
[14:51] <wwitzel3> alexisb: np
[14:58] <dimitern> frobware, nope that one is for master and it's still blocked
[14:59] <dimitern> frobware, and since we're not reviewing forward ports, I'll just merge it when possible, if that's ok
[15:03] <katco> natefinch: standup
[15:05] <katco> frobware: hey, how close are you to getting a fix for bug 1512371 for 1.25?
[15:05] <mup> Bug #1512371: Using MAAS 1.9 as provider using DHCP NIC will prevent juju bootstrap <bug-squad> <maas-provider> <network> <juju-core:In Progress> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by frobware> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512371>
[15:06] * dimitern steps out to the store; bbl
[15:11] <frobware> katco, probably tomorrow
[15:11] <katco> frobware: kk
[15:11] <frobware> katco, actively working on it now
[15:11] <frobware> katco, blocking you?
[15:11] <katco> frobware: cool, just trying to figure out how much wiggle room we have on another bug :)
[15:12] <katco> frobware: nope not blocked.
[15:12] <frobware> katco, in terms of a making a 1.25.x release?
[15:12] <katco> frobware: yeah
[15:12] <katco> frobware: e.g. is everyone waiting on us
[15:12] <katco> rather, i.e.
[15:14] <frobware> cherylj, you mentioned you had the replica set problem again - still holding true?
[15:15] <cherylj> frobware: that maas set up was hosed. I ended up tearing it down and rebuilding it. Haven't seen the problem since.
[15:15] <cherylj> frobware: I can't say for sure there wasn't something else going on
[15:19] <katco> cherylj: hey, can you read my comment at the bottom of bug 1382556 and give guidance?
[15:19] <mup> Bug #1382556: "cannot allocate memory" when running "juju run" <cpe-critsit> <run> <juju-core:In Progress by ericsnowcurrently> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by ericsnowcurrently> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1382556>
[15:20] <cherylj> katco: sure, taking a look....
[15:20] <katco> cherylj: ty
[15:20] <katco> cherylj: this is one of the last blockers for 1.25.1
[15:20] <cherylj> katco: yeah. Are you guys in your stand up? Could I come chat with you guys if you are?
[15:20] <katco> cherylj: of course: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/moonstone?authuser=1
[15:21] <lazypower> wwitzel3 katco - ping
[15:21] <wwitzel3> lazypower: pong
[15:21] <lazypower> I'm riffing with mbruzek in a hangout, and it appears juju list-payloads isn't available on 1.26-alpha1, is this known/expected behavior?
[15:21] <katco> lazypower: pong
[15:22] <katco> lazypower: it is not yet in master
[15:22] <lazypower> i'm confused as to how its in 1.25 and not 1.26 :P
[15:22] <mbruzek> How did it get into 1.25 if it is not in master?
[15:22] <mbruzek> is it hidden by feature flag?
[15:22] <mbruzek> You gave us a feature then took it away!
[15:23] <lazypower> ^ yeah, wat
[15:24] <katco> lazypower: mbruzek: sorry in meeting. we started the feature based on 1.25, 1.26 was blocked by lack of a >= Go 1.3 process
[15:24] <lazypower> hmm, hokay
[15:24] <katco> lazypower: it's on the radar. we'll get it landed asap
[15:24] <mbruzek> OK, sorry to interrupt meeting.
[15:24] <lazypower> Thanks for the follow up o/
[15:24] <katco> (we're also on bug squad this iteration)
[15:36] <mup> Bug #1516668 opened: Switch juju-run to an API model (like actions) rather than SSH. <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516668>
[15:36] <mup> Bug #1516669 opened: Memory/goroutine leaks. <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516669>
[15:54] <mgz> I replied to menn0's mail about the blocker again, can natefinch or someone take a look?
[16:06] <mup> Bug #1516676 opened: Use of os/exec in juju is problematic in resource limited environments. <tech-debt> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516676>
[16:17] <natefinch> mgz: reading
[16:32] <natefinch> katco: seems like the jes CI tests are still blocked by code introduced by the unitassigner. Should I work on that or the juju run bug? (I presume the blocker, but wanted to confirm)
[16:33] <katco> natefinch: hm
[16:33] <katco> natefinch: my inclination is to say the juju run bug since it's blocking the impending 1.25.1 release
[16:34] <katco> natefinch: we still have some runway on master
[16:34] <katco> natefinch: plus it looks like menno did a fix-committed?
[16:35] <natefinch> katco: menno responded to the CI test failure with some comments, thread title is "Cursed (final): #3310 gitbranch:master:github.com/juju/juju 0bf7c382 (functional-jes)"
[16:36] <natefinch> katco: basically... he thought it should have been fixed, but the CI test was still having problems
[16:37] <katco> natefinch: i see. well, i think you should still focus on the 1.25.1 blocker
[16:37] <katco> natefinch: that's coming out first
[16:37] <natefinch> katco: yep, that's fine. That's why I asked :)
[16:37] <katco> natefinch: yep, ty
[16:42] <mbruzek> axw: ping?
[16:44] <voidspace> frobware: change to picking address algorithm landed on 1.25
[16:44] <voidspace> frobware: change discussed in standup fixed that failing test
[16:45] <voidspace> frobware: porting to master now
[16:45] <voidspace> frobware: also I think that the new Subnets implementation is done - but needs tests, which means I need a test harness
[16:45] <voidspace> frobware: I can switch to ListSpaces whilst I wait for that
[16:45] <mup> Bug #1516698 opened: Juju never stops trying to contact charm store <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516698>
[16:57] <natefinch> one wonders if no one thought about what might happen if this was run on an environment of 5000 machines: https://github.com/juju/juju/blob/master/apiserver/client/run.go#L164
[16:58] <dooferlad> voidspace: *sigh*, that CI stuff took ages. I am not going to get far with gomaasapi before I need to stop (now-ish). Will see if I can take a look after dinner.
[16:58] <frobware> voidspace, all sounds good
[17:05] <natefinch> sometimes I think people just randomly decide whether or not to pass around pointers versus values :/
[17:07] <voidspace> dooferlad: thanks
[17:25] <voidspace> natefinch: what's your problem with that function using a pointer?
[17:37] <natefinch> voidspace: it shouldn't be modifying the value, and the value is small enough to be copied easily.
[17:37] <natefinch> voidspace: making it a pointer makes me wonder if it's going to be modified somewhere.
[17:38] <voidspace> natefinch: if it's called 5000 times surely using a pointer is *more* efficient
[17:38] <voidspace> natefinch: and if that's not the issue why does it matter if it's called for 5000 machines as you called out
[17:38] <voidspace> natefinch: or is that a separate issue?
[17:39] <cherylj> katco, does the lxd provider use the container/lxc code to still do container provisioning?
[17:39] <natefinch> voidspace: separate issue... the problem is spawning 5000 goroutines that all do stuff at te same time
[17:39] <voidspace> natefinch: right, instead of queuing
[17:39] <voidspace> yeah, that would be much better...
[17:39] <katco> cherylj: i don't think so. container/lxd
[17:39] <natefinch> voidspace: and pointer dereference versus some small amount of memory copying is not always an obvious win
[17:40] <natefinch> voidspace: queueing is what I'm writing right now, since this code is causing OOM issues
[17:40] <voidspace> not always, just usually
[17:40] <voidspace> natefinch: right, cool
[17:40] <natefinch> voidspace: the pointer thing isn't really a problem, just a pet peeve
[17:40] <voidspace> heh
[17:40] <voidspace> natefinch: thanks for expanding, interesting stuff
[18:30] <natefinch> man I love channels and goroutines
[18:30] <natefinch> bbiab
[19:43] <katco> natefinch-afk: hey did you get that tech-debt card created?
[19:44] <natefinch> katco: oops, nope, will do now
[19:54] <natefinch> katco: done
[19:55] <katco> natefinch: ty
[21:06] <thumper> sinzui: what's the status with the CI blocker
[21:06] <thumper> ?
[21:06] <thumper> sinzui: menno ran the tests locally yesterday and could not reproduce
[21:06] <thumper> both with local, joyent, and the CI scripts
[21:07] <sinzui> mgz: ^ I think you are versed in this topic
[21:07] <mgz> thumper: I replied to menno's message
[21:08] * thumper hasn't got to it yet, still reading
[21:08] <thumper> go there
[21:08] <thumper> s/go/got
[21:08] <mgz> thumper: short version, somehow with trunk the units in the hosted environment are going *through* error, when the machines are not up, rather than pending, but once the machines are up are fine
[21:08] <thumper> wha?
[21:08] <thumper> oh...
[21:08] <thumper> ha
[21:09] <thumper> I bet this is the unit assignment worker
[21:09] <thumper> trying to assign them too early
[21:09] <thumper> and somehow marking them
[21:09] <mgz> there is some layering thing screwed up
[21:09] <thumper> natefinch ^^?
[21:09] <mgz> it thinks they are units for the hosting env... till it gets machines, then it works it out
[21:13] <natefinch> thumper: reading backlog
[21:13] <thumper> natefinch: I was just about to look at the unit assignment worker
[21:13] <thumper> it seems that it is trying to assign the unit twice
[21:13] <thumper> because the machine isn't up yet
[21:13] <thumper> http://juju-ci.vapour.ws/job/functional-jes/276/console
[21:13] <thumper> natefinch: see the status output in there
[21:14] <thumper> natefinch: after two minutes, the status is taken again, and it looks ok
[21:14] <thumper> so it obviously settles itself down
[21:14] <thumper> but putting the unit into an error state is confusing the tests (and users)
[21:15] <natefinch> thumper: I've seen it error and then settle, but I thought I'd fixed that when I told it only to run the worker on the master state machine
[21:15] <natefinch> thumper: already assigned does not sound like the error you'd get if you tried to assign it and there was no machine yet
[21:16] <thumper> no, it sounds like it was assigned, and then attempted to assign it again
[21:18] <natefinch> right, which would imply some sort of race condition - either multiple people getting notified and trying to assign (like I originally fixed) or maybe two notifications firing off in succession and thus causing two unit assignments to run concurrently.... the latter seems possible
[21:19] <mgz> natefinch: the other thing with this is this doesn't appear in a state server log anywhere
[21:19] <mgz> despite being an error that appears in status. this seems very wrong.
[21:20] <thumper> maor logging plz
[21:20] <thumper> :)
[21:20] <natefinch> hmmm... wonder if I went too crazy in removing my debugging logging
[21:22] <thumper> this might be strange, but does the collection watcher fire when docs are removed?
[21:22] <thumper> natefinch: I have a feeling it might, but just a stab in the dark at the moment
[21:22] <thumper> I thought any change to the doc would fire the watcher
[21:23] <thumper> not just insertions
[21:23] <thumper> it appears that the assign units collection just has insertions and deletions and no updates
[21:23] <thumper> is that right?
[21:24] <natefinch> corret
[21:24] <natefinch> correct
[21:26] <thumper> natefinch: how about logging the unit ids that are being assigned
[21:26] <thumper> I wonder if we'll find a dupe
[21:27] <natefinch> thumper: yeah.... I swear I was, but again, maybe I just took out too much logging
[21:28] <mgz> I can rerun with logging turned up more if that would maybe make things clearer
[21:29] <natefinch> the worker has some tracef calls that you could turn on, but it definitely looks like I took out too many log statements
[21:31] <natefinch> that'll at least tell you wht unit ids the worker is seeing firing from the watcher, and log the results of the unit assignment attempt
[21:32] <mgz> natefinch: what do I want... "<main>=DEBUG ?=TRACE"
[21:32] <natefinch> juju.worker.unitassigner
[21:32] <mgz> ta
[21:52] <mgz> natefinch: http://juju-ci.vapour.ws/job/functional-jes/279/console
[21:52] <perrito666> anyone knows how to ask peergrouper which of the machines is the leader?
[21:52] <mgz> you'll want the gathered logs when the job completes
[21:54] <natefinch> mgz: thanks
[21:54] <natefinch> wow, juju status --format=tabular doesn't show containers?
[22:00] <mgz> 2015-11-16 21:52:19 TRACE juju.worker.unitassigner unitassigner.go:56 Unit assignment results: ["cannot assign unit \"dummy-source/0\" to machine: cannot assign unit \"dummy-source/0\" to new machine or container: cannot assign unit \"dummy-source/0\" to new machine: unit is already assigned to a machine" <nil>]
[22:00] <natefinch> lol, this OOM error frmo juju run is a lot harder to repro when we moved to m3.mediums.
[22:02] <natefinch> mgz: not really useful, given that we already knew that. I'm working on another bug for bug squad right now, that's blocking 1.25, but I'll try to look at that one once I get this one finished up
[22:02] <natefinch> mgz: I'll take a look at the logs from the run later tonight and see if anything obvious pops up
[22:02] <natefinch> gotta run and make dinner for the family
[22:06] <perrito666> diner, honestly? at 6PM...
[22:44] <thumper> I'm sorry, but seriously?
[22:44] <thumper> a critical blocker stopping the entire team has less priority?
[23:14] <axw> wallyworld: I'm rebasing the azure-arm-provider branch because it's missing fixes from master
[23:14] <axw> wallyworld: assuming no need to review
[23:15] <wallyworld> axw: once, just finishing meeting
[23:16] <wallyworld> axw: sorry, done now, in standup
[23:16] <axw> oops, is that the time
[23:48] <thumper> axw: I have never suggested or required a review of merging master into a feature branch
[23:49] * thumper off to walk the dog
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:24] <xenchrarr> When I try to install ubuntu-touch on my meizu mx4 now, I get the error "can't boot recovery image" - how can I fix this?
[00:29] <aceman0455> Hey everyone. im wondered if anyone has a download link for touch flashable files
[05:54] <pandatrone> good mornin
[05:54] <pandatrone> g
[06:09] <InnerCode> Hey guys, I've installed the SDK as stated on developer.ubuntu.com and effected by this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1477580 Does someone knows how to fix it? My phone and desktop are up to date.
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:46] <InnerCode> Hey guys, Goodmorning. I've already asked this question but I disconnect by mistake. So, again: I've installed the SDK as stated on developer.ubuntu.com and effected by this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1477580 Does someone knows how to fix it?
[08:46] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1477580 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "[HTML5] AppaArmor denials to used the system installed UI SDK files, when webapp container used as a launcher" [High,Fix released]
[09:20] <tvoss> mardy, o/
[09:20] <tvoss> mardy, for testing https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/last-known-position/+merge/277358
[09:20] <mardy> tvoss: hi!
[09:22] <tvoss> mardy, I would propose to create a test setup that includes an Engine instance, a service::Implementation instance, creating session and subsequently injecting a reference position into the engine
[09:22] <tvoss> mardy, let me hand you some links to bootstrap the testing setup
[09:22] <mardy> tvoss: thanks
[09:24] <tvoss> mardy, you might want to copy http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/location-service/15.04/view/head:/tests/acceptance_tests.cpp#L576
[09:24] <tvoss> the tests sets up a private testing bus instance, a service and a client
[09:24] <tvoss> and alters the value of an Engine
[09:24] * tvoss takes note to come up with a common fixture
[09:26] <mardy> tvoss: this link seems helpful indeed; do you want me to create a new cpp file for this test, or should I add it to an existing file?
[09:26] <tvoss> mardy, add to the existing file. We can have a followup MP to split out the file
[09:26] <tvoss> mardy, it's getting a little large :)
[09:27] <mardy> tvoss: OK :-)
[09:54] <om26er> jgdx, Hi!
[09:55] <om26er> jgdx, can you tell what mechanism we use to turn on/off data connection from system settings ? Is there a command line way to do that ?
[10:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Button Day! 😃
[11:00] <shawnwang> cd :q
[11:21] <tvoss> mardy, did you have a chance to give https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/651 a spin?
[11:57] <mardy> tvoss: not yet, sorry
[11:58] <tvoss> mardy, no worries, I gave it a spin
[12:12] <jgdx> om26er, hey, yes. /usr/share/ofono/scripts/disable-gprs and /usr/share/ofono/scripts/enable-gprs
[12:12] <jgdx> om26er, we toggle Powered on the ConnMan interface
[12:13] <om26er> jgdx, is the ofono script doing exactly the same thing as the UI ?
[12:13] <jgdx> om26er, yes
[12:13] <om26er> jgdx, great, thanks
[13:03] <mardy> tvoss: I've just updated https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/last-known-position/+merge/277358
[13:04] <mardy> tvoss: there's an apparently unrelated change in time_based_update_policy.cpp, but it's quite important
[13:04] <tvoss> mardy, the fix for the uninitialized value?
[13:05] <mardy> tvoss: no, a fix on the accuracy check
[13:05] <mardy> tvoss: the previous code was checking the accuracy only if it was set on both the old and the new positions; but I think we should always update the position if there was no accuracy on the old position
[13:06] <tvoss> mardy, yup, certainly
[13:39] <mardy> tvoss: I want to change debian/source/format to be "3.0 (native)", so that I can easily build the package with pdebuild; can I sneak this change in my current MP, or do you prefer a separate one?
[13:39] <tvoss> mardy, separate one, please
[13:39] <mardy> tvoss: OK
[13:45] <dobey> brendand: hey. sorry, i was on vacation last week. shouldn't there be a helper in unity8 for doing the search and we should use that instead of doing all the work in the scope ap tests?
[13:46] <mardy> tvoss: here it is: https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/source-format/+merge/277570
[13:46] <tvoss> mardy, great, thx
[13:48] <brendand> dobey, that would probably be better, yes. i'm not sure what the motivation behind adding the helper into unity-scope-click instead was
[13:48] <brendand> dobey, maybe it was a case of path of least resistance at the time
[13:49] <mardy> tvoss: as for the last-known-position one, I'm preparing a MP against 15.04 (the one you saw was for trunk, just because I happen to be on xenial); as soon as I confirm that it builds on vivid, I'll ping you
[13:50] <tvoss> mardy, ack, I would like to have a silo for testing asap to take it for a spin
[13:50] <dobey> brendand: i can only guess that elopio put it there because unity8 didn't have one yet
[13:52] <mardy> tvoss: I can foresee a problem, though... on the first start, the last known position will be (0, 0); I should add a method is_valid() to the Position class, and don't emit the position changed signal if the cached position is invalid
[13:53] <tvoss> mardy, hmmm, fair point
[13:54] <mardy> tvoss: on a project of mine, I'm initializing the latitute to NaN, to mark a position as invalid; do you think this is fine, or do you have a better idea?
[13:54] <tvoss> mardy, NaN is tricky unfortunately. I would make it an Optional<Position>
[13:55] <tvoss> mardy, that allows for a very simple check, without relying on (potentially brittle) numeric semantics
[13:55] <dobey> brendand: also, you cannot dual-land unity-scope-click
[13:56] <mardy> tvoss: as you wish; for the record, I'm using this: https://gitlab.com/mardy/mappero/blob/master/lib/Mappero/types.h#L113
[13:56] <mardy> tvoss: the isValid() method on line 123 is indeed fishy :-)
[13:56] <tvoss> mardy, ;)
[13:57] <tvoss> mardy, picky here as I have spent too many hours debugging NaN-induced behavior before ;)
[13:57] <mardy> tvoss: well, if we have this Optional template, then I won't look further :-)
[13:58] <tvoss> mardy, yup, in the code
[14:24] <mardy> tvoss: mmm... using optional there makes the code look weird in many places (mostly because we are inside an Update<>, and an Optional<> makes things pretty weird)
[14:25] <mardy> tvoss: what about checking if the update timestamp is the beginning of times?
[14:25] <tvoss> mardy, let me think about it
[14:25] <tvoss> mardy, why not make the entire update optional?
[14:26] <mardy> tvoss: I guess the real question is why didn't I think of that? :-)
[14:26] <tvoss> mardy, :) it's Monday, and looking at code for too long tends to block clear thinking :)
[14:28] <mardy> tvoss: thanks, this must be it ;-)
[14:29] <brendand> dobey, i just pushed the change, charles took care of the landing
[14:29] <mardy> tvoss: but is core::dbus able to handle this type?
[14:29] <tvoss> mardy, yup
[14:29] <mardy> ok
[14:30] <tvoss> mardy, at least that's my excuse on a Monday :)
[14:30] <mardy> :-)
[14:33] <dobey> brendand: ok, i'll yell at charles :)
[14:34] <brendand> dobey, you can yell at me too but i'll just ignore you if it's not relevant :)
[14:38] <pandatrone> hi all, do you have any idea if there is a way to turn auto focus off on meizu?
[15:21] <jgdx> kenvandine, hey, added some stuff to the indicator mock: https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/mock-wifi-menu-items/+merge/277566
[15:23] <kenvandine> jgdx, ok
[15:24] <jgdx> pete-woods, hey, the wifi panel in uss is missing a section, and it it's empty in the gtk.Menus export from the indicator.
[15:24] <pete-woods> jgdx: that sounds pretty weird
[15:25] <pete-woods> which section is missing?
[15:25] <jgdx> pete-woods, it does. It's there, but there's no label
[15:25] <pete-woods> :/
[15:25] <pete-woods> v. weird indeed
[15:27] <jgdx> pete-woods, i'll make a bug
[15:28] <pete-woods> jgdx: screenshits plz
[15:28] <pete-woods> *shots :$
[15:28] <jgdx> pete-woods, sure, but what of?
[15:29] <pete-woods> the uss screen
[15:29] <pete-woods> the indicator menu
[15:29] <pete-woods> for easy comparison
[15:29] <pete-woods> so I know what went missing
[15:29] <pete-woods> also, is this happening to everyone?
[15:29] <pete-woods> just happened this once to you?
[15:29] <pete-woods> etc
[15:29] <jgdx> pete-woods, the thing is, it's not supposed to show in the indicator
[15:31] <jgdx> pete-woods, and when I said empty, I meant that it's on /com/canonical/indicator/network/phone_wifi_settings but it has no label property
[15:32] <jgdx> pete-woods, check it gdbus call -e -d com.canonical.indicator.network -o /com/canonical/indicator/network/phone_wifi_settings -m org.gtk.Menus.Start [0]
[15:32] <jgdx> {':section': <(uint32 0, uint32 1)>}
[15:33] <jgdx> that's correct, but according to the design spec there should be a label property (now) “Available Wi-Fi networks”.
[15:33] <pete-woods> okay
[15:35] <pete-woods> in a hangout now
[15:35] <pete-woods> but will talk about this more after
[15:36] <jgdx> sure
[16:39] <asac> awe: i am not sure my simpin unlock works... where can i see the log/errors from the ofono thingy on my phone?
[16:40] <awe> syslog
[16:40] <awe> grep for "ofonod"
[16:40] <awe> which phone?
[16:42] <awe> Mirv, hey had a couple Qt questions for you re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/sync-monitor/+bug/1480877
[16:42] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1480877 in location-service (Ubuntu RTM) "Access points' "PropertiesChanged" dbus signals freeze UI on mobile devices" [High,Triaged]
[16:51] <asac> awe: meizu
[16:51] <awe> rc-proposed?
[16:51] <asac> point is i am sure i know the pin
[16:51] <asac> and the failed attempts counter does not go down
[16:51] <asac> stays at 3
[16:52] <awe> hmmm
[16:52] <asac> awe: where would i see errors if somethig goes wrong during simpin unlock?
[16:52] <awe> syslog, as I mentioned above
[16:52] <asac> Nov 16 17:37:38 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[2960]: mtk_radio_state_changed, slot 0: state: SIM_LOCKED_OR_ABSENT md->ofono_online: 1
[16:53] <awe> is that all?
[16:53] <awe> ( that looks like an error )
[16:53] <asac> hmm. its odd
[16:53] <asac> i dismissed the ping dialog because i didnt want to hard lock it
[16:53] <asac> but now the SIM isnt detected anymore in the UI
[16:53] * asac reboots
[16:54] * asac gets the feel something is fishy with that SIM
[16:54] <awe> k
[16:54] <awe> did you hot plug it?
[16:54] <asac> nope
[16:54] <asac> dont do that
[16:54] <awe> good
[16:54] <asac> it was a sim that was in the BQ
[16:55] <awe> ok
[16:55] <asac> when i came back the BQ didnt detect any sim at all
[16:55] <asac> not even my prepaid onces
[16:55] <awe> wow...
[16:55] <asac> so i thought BQ is busted
[16:55] <asac> now i put my normal sim into meizu and its detected, but my simpin doesnt work
[16:55] <asac> now meize doesnt see my normal sim either :(
[16:55] <awe> what image are you running
[16:55] <awe> ?
[16:56] <awe> rc-proposed? stable?
[16:56] <awe> ( don't tell me xenial )
[16:56] <asac> awe: dunno where that problem is... i am on image...
[16:56] <asac> 15.04 (r6)
[16:56] <asac> didnt upgrade though
[16:56] <asac> so Nov 16 17:54:16 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[2165]: mtk_radio_state_changed, slot 0: state: SIM_LOCKED_OR_ABSENT md->ofono_online: 1
[16:56] <asac> is what i get after reboot
[16:57] <awe> that just means the SIM is locked
[16:57] <awe> ( or absent )
[16:57] <asac> and meizu doenst ask for prompt anymnore
[16:57] <awe> you need to enter the PIN
[16:57] <asac> ok so i really hit the 3 attempts barrier
[16:57] <asac> still i am 100% sure my pin was correct
[16:57] <awe> do you have the PUK?
[16:57] <asac> can a sim reset its PIN somehow/
[16:57] <asac> or maybe the BQ SIM component chocked and sent some bogus data to it :()
[16:57] <asac> i have a PUK
[16:57] <awe> not by itself
[16:57] <asac> but dont know where :(
[16:57] <asac> it must be somewhere buried
[16:57] <awe> unless skynet just woke up on your SIM
[16:58] <asac> i have this sim for like 5 years or so
[16:58] <asac> hehe
[16:58] <asac> well, as i said, the BQ phone seems to have no working SIM slot anymore
[16:58] <asac> my sim was in there
[16:58] <asac> when that happened
[16:58] <awe> mine's about shot too
[16:58] <asac> might be that there was some static involved
[16:58] <asac> is it a common error that the SIM slot break on B
[16:58] <awe> the SIM doors are just about broken for me
[16:58] <asac> Q?
[16:58] <asac> ah... well, i can put stuff in
[16:59] <asac> but it jujst desnt detect anything
[16:59] <asac> non of my 3 sims
[16:59] <asac> maybe it fried all by now :)
[16:59] <asac> damn... i hate trying to find my puk
[16:59] <asac> how do i unlock if i have it?
[16:59] <awe> kinda doubtful that all three fo them broke
[16:59] <asac> seems i am not getting asked for a PUK at least
[16:59] <awe> really?
[16:59] <asac> no i dont get prompted
[16:59] <asac> it just spits out the line above
[16:59] <asac> 17:56 < asac> so Nov 16 17:54:16 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[2165]: mtk_radio_state_changed, slot 0: state: SIM_LOCKED_OR_ABSENT md->ofono_online: 1
[17:00] <asac> if i got to settings -> mobile
[17:00] <asac> i get told it doesnt know my sim
[17:00] <awe> well... I guess if the count wasn't going down, then it won't know to auto-prompt
[17:00] <asac> damn i am late and have to run out
[17:00] <awe> ok
[17:00] <asac> talk soon. nice to meet friends without phone. lets hope we are able to find each other :P
[17:00] <awe> maybe you should ping abeato in the morning ( he's same TZ as you )
[17:00] <asac> hehe
[17:00] <awe> good luck!
[17:00] <asac> thanks thats good
[17:00] <asac> have to search for the PUK anyway i guess
[17:01] <awe> k
[17:01] <awe> you should be able to get it from your operator
[17:01] <asac> worst case i misuse some old android of my wife
[17:01] <asac> they throw it away and only give it to me
[17:01] <asac> when they hand out the sim
[17:01] <asac> if you loose it they give you a new sim unfortunately
[17:02] <asac> but its ok
[17:02] <awe> well... I'll check my MX4 later and verify that PIN unlocking is working
[17:02] <asac> just nnoying :)\
[17:02] <asac> that would be cool
[17:02] <asac> thanks
[17:02] <awe> we test these pretty thoroughly everytime we release a new ofono
[17:02] <asac> i am sure i can find the puk :P
[17:02] <abeato> asac, does the sim work on another phone?
[17:02] <asac> it worked on the BQ ... then it stopped working on BQ, but so did all other SIMs i had
[17:02] <asac> so the BQ is broken now for sure
[17:02] <asac> because i can still use the other sims in the meize
[17:02] <asac> just not my main one
[17:03] <asac> that was in the BQ phone when it borke
[17:03] <asac> :)
[17:03] <asac> thats all i know
[17:03] <asac> it asked me for sim 3 times on meizu and now its not asking at all
[17:03] <asac> i entered the pin i am using since 10 years :)
[17:03] <asac> so its unlikely wrong
[17:03] <asac> just didnt unlock
[17:03] <asac> ok have to run. lets chat tomorrow
[17:04] <awe> k
[17:04] <awe> ttyl
[17:04] <greyback_> hey, I've an annoying little issue with my Bq - it seems to think I entered the PIN incorrectly, so is demanding a PUK code.
[17:05] <greyback_> thing is, I never put a SIM into that phone
[17:18] <OerHeks> greyback_, contact BQ perhaps? puk code is related to a sim, not phone AFAIK
[17:20] <greyback_> OerHeks: you're right. So I'm suspecting the phone software (ofono) is confused
[17:58] <asif> hi
[21:30] <enska> I'm trying to find out when the next OS upgrade might come out for Ubuntu touch?
[21:32] <stakewinner00> enska, 18 of november i think
[21:32] <stakewinner00> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-8-update-to-launch-on-november-18-495521.shtml
[21:32] <enska> ahh, that soon. That would be rally nice.
[21:33] <enska> And is there some place to announce user comments and bugs?
[21:33] <enska> rally -> really
[21:35] <enska> stakewinner00: thanks for the info. Didn't stumble into that page yet.
[21:36] <stakewinner00> enska, for report bugs?
[21:37] <enska> aww, well, sometimes the phone apps just crash or misbehave..
[21:37] <stakewinner00> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers there are the bug lists
[21:37] <enska> thanks
[21:39] <stakewinner00> enska, all i know of ubuntu touch is from softpedia :P
[21:39] <enska> :)
[21:39] <enska> thats more what I seem to know. :)
[21:40] <enska> And I'm using this phone daily.
[21:40] <enska> Not very happy with it atm, though...
[21:42] <stakewinner00> enska, I only use the phone for call, use telegram, and listen music, i only care about battery lifetime. But yeah, there are some wrongs thinks, like music app.
[21:43] <enska> yep, background play would nice feature.
[21:44] <ahayzen> enska, we are working on it :-)
[21:45] <enska> good to know. :)
[21:48] <enska> Now
[21:48] <enska> wrong button
[21:49] <enska> thanks for replys, I will start going trough the buglists.
[22:00] <stakewinner00> one question, will ubuntu updates produce some type of "programed obsolescence", I mean, in 10 years, ubuntu update can be bigger than the free space of my phone? For example BQ 4.5 have 8GB of storage, in 10 years an update of ubuntu can be of 9GB for example?
[22:03] <dobey> stakewinner00: possible, but unlikely. we try to keep the core OS small, and phone images are built specific for devices, so aren't filled with drivers for every possible set of hardware
[22:04] <dobey> more likely the hardware will just be too slow and limited for modern software at that point, if it's 10 year old hardware
[22:04] <stakewinner00> dobey, that's good :) I had an ipod touch, but the update was too big, and i don't like to waste money if the hardware still works.
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-mir
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[08:40] <Mirv> RAOF: were you pinged already to copy mir 0.17.1 to xenial-proposed from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial ? (where it mistakenly was landed)
[08:41] <Mirv> needs a core-dev, and copy-package from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools
[08:41] <Mirv> that would be: ./copy-package --from=~ci-train-ppa-service/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay --from-suite=xenial --to=ubuntu --to-suite=xenial-proposed -b mir
[09:46] <RAOF> Mirv: Done. We build a lot of packages!
[10:18] <Mirv> RAOF: thanks! yes I also noticed quite of lot of binaries for 6 archs :)
[15:54] <alan_g> kdub: you've been looking at this area of code more than me - does the error message "<ERROR> MirBufferStream: Error processing incoming buffer error registering graphics buffer for client use" suggest a likely cause? https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1516670
[15:54] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1516670 in Mir "Nesting Mir servers with assorted display configs causes lockup" [Undecided,New]
[15:57] <kdub> alan_g, it means that the client is having trouble mapping the buffer the first time its seen it, but other than that, unsure why that combo of branches would make more problems
[15:59] <alan_g> The branches actually make fewer problems. But that means it runs long enough to see new ones. :(
[16:00] <alan_g> I think something racy is happening with the rebuilding of display configs, nested "display buffers" etc. Just not figured out what yet.
[16:02] <alan_g> kdub: don't worry about it - just hoped you'd have a good suggestion.
[17:58] <alan_g> kdub: not urgent, but checking you noticed there's a special request for your input on this: https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/fix-1463873/+merge/277552
[17:58] <kdub> alan_g, sure will try to look today
[17:58] <alan_g> thanks
[18:16] <kdub> why don't the client modules link to libmirplatform?
[18:18] <kdub> I'm mostly just curious if this is actively-willed/designed or not
[18:20] <kdub> ^vogons
[18:52] <anpok> kdub: I believe just a lack of need? libmirplatform is mostly utilities for graphics server platforms that need to be lgpl..
[18:53] <kdub> anpok, thanks... i think I've found a need, so we'll see what people say in review I guess
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-ko
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[02:31] <autowiz_> 활기찬 월요일 시작들 하셨습니까 허허헛
[02:46] <ipeter> 오즈님 문상 잘 다녀오셨어요?
[02:46] <autowiz_> 네 잘 갔다왔습니다.
[02:47] <autowiz_> 피터님은 주말 잘 보내셨어요?
[02:47] <ipeter> 네.
[02:47] <ipeter> 저도 그날 문상가신다기에
[02:47] <ipeter> 그냥 집에 일찍 들어갔습니다.
[03:03] <ipeter> 어제 올라오셨나요?
[03:29] <autowiz_> 네 어제 저녁에 올라왔네요
[03:36] <poky> 안녕하세요 ㅎㅎ
[03:39] <crixer> 안녕하세요
[03:45] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요
[04:25] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[04:28] <ipeter> 휴.
[04:28] <ipeter> 직장에서 맡고 있는 프로젝트가
[04:28] <ipeter> 잠시 홀딩되서
[04:28] <ipeter> 해야할게 없어서 잠시 방황하고 있는데
[04:28] <ircCloud^Seony> 안녕하세요
[04:28] <ipeter> 그냥 자바스크립트 강의듣고 있어야할것 같습니다.
[04:28] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[04:28] <ircCloud^Seony> 사무실에서 아얄씨클라우드 접속되어있는줄 알았는데, 꺼져있었군요.
[04:29] <ircCloud^Seony> 차를 샀어도 갈데가 없으니 하루종일 주차장 신세...
[04:29] <ipeter> ㅠㅠ
[04:30] <autowiz_> 갈시간은 있으시지요? ㅎㅎ
[04:30] <ircCloud^Seony> 시간은 많죠 ㅎㅎ
[04:30] <autowiz_> 그럼 아무데나 가시면 될거 같은데요 석양을 바라보며~ 드라이브 캬~ 좋다
[04:31] <ircCloud^Seony> 겨울이라, 요즘은 6시만 되도 깜깜하네요 ㅎㅎ
[04:35] <ircCloud^Seony> 제 맥프로 그래픽카드 이슈 때문에 결국은 애플스토어에 맡겼는데, 컴퓨터 없으니까 심심하네요
[04:45] <ipeter> 휴..
[04:45] <ipeter> 써니님
[04:45] <ipeter> 맥 이제 1주일정도 됐는데
[04:45] <ipeter> 편한것도 있고
[04:45] <ipeter> 어려운것도 있고
[04:45] <ipeter> 그러네요
[04:45] <ipeter> 불편한것도 있구요
[04:46] <ipeter> 익숙함에서의 차이겠죠.
[04:46] <ipeter> 캘린더라든지 메일같은것이 OS에 좀 더 녹아있는것 같아요.
[04:46] <ipeter> 약간 느린것도 있구요
[04:46] <ipeter> 뭐 2012 late ver.이니 어쩔 수 없겠죠.
[04:47] <ipeter> 그래도 스스디 달아줬는데 속도는 그렇게 큰 불만 없습니다.
[04:48] <razGon_MINILA> 개개인의 스케줄에는 좀더 밀착형이더군요.
[04:49] <razGon_MINILA> 이전 맥킨토시에서 만들어져 내려온 개인밀착형 폼이 남아 있는거 같아요
[05:11] <ipeter> 구글 드라이브
[05:11] <ipeter> 보안 괜찮을까요?
[05:12] <ipeter> 구글드라이브 기반으로 우분투랑, 맥이랑 공유해서 파일 정리하려고 해서요.
[05:12] <ipeter> 아무래도 피씨를 두대 쓰다보니
[05:12] <ipeter> 관리하기 헷갈리기도 해서요
[05:12] <ipeter> 어떻게들 관리하시나요?
[05:13] <ipeter> 예를 들어, 직장에도 picture라는 폴더가 있고, 우분투에도 picture라는 폴더가 있구요
[05:13] <ipeter> 직장에서는 맥을 씁니다.
[05:19] <PotatoGim> https://github.com/jreybert/vimagit
[05:20] <PotatoGim> #perl-kr에서 주워들은 vim 플러그인인데 갠춘하네요 ㅎㅎ
[06:57] <HolyKnight> 트윗펌. 아아 끝이 다가오고 있다 http://pic.twitter.com/DJODZP0XFE
[07:42] <autowiz_> 저도 요절 하게 될려나요 ㅠㅠ
[08:18] <PotatoGim> 어우... PulseAudio가 도저히 안되네요..ㅜㅜ
[08:19] <PotatoGim> 크로미움에서 음성 재생이 아무리 삽을 퍼도 안되길래
[08:19] <PotatoGim> 포기하고 맘편하게 지워버리니 되는...
[08:25] <autowiz_> 저는 지우지 마시옵소서~~
[08:30] <PotatoGim> ㅜㅜ
[08:40] <PotatoGim> ipeter: NAS를 하나 장만하시고 넷드라이브를 쓰시는 겁니다!
[08:51] <PotatoGim> SparkleShare도 괜찮습니다!
[08:52] <PotatoGim> Linux / Windows / Mac 모두 지원합니다!
[09:39] <ipeter> 오오
[09:39] <ipeter> 감사합니다.
[09:39] <ipeter> NAS와 sparklleshare 확인해보겠습니다.
[10:17] <DarkCircle> PotatoGim, 쿨하게 컴파일 추천 -ㅅ-/
[10:32] <ipeter> 아.
[10:32] <ipeter> 좋은 저녁 보내고 계신지요?
[10:32] <ipeter> 비가 오네요.
[10:32] <ipeter> 자바스크립트 공부하고 있습니다.
[10:32] <ipeter> 재미있네요.
[10:32] <ipeter> ㅠㅠ 가르쳐주세요.
[10:36] <PotatoGim> http://jb-story.tistory.com/200
[10:38] <ipeter> 사마휘님 웍스 오셨군요!!
[10:47] <PotatoGim> 아.. TCP CUBIC 성능 개선과 관련된 최근 LWN 기사를 어디선가 봤었는데 기억이 안나네요...ㅜ
[10:53] <DarkCircle> 최근은 아니고 좀 오래된거지 않을까요 (...)
[10:53] <DarkCircle> 뭐 개선한다는게 마냥 개선이되는건 아닐테고 ... https://lwn.net/Articles/305700/
[10:54] <DarkCircle> 관련 논문은 https://www.cs.princeton.edu/courses/archive/fall14/cos561/papers/Cubic08.pdf
[10:54] <PotatoGim> 아. 저 메일링은 아닙니다.
[10:54] <PotatoGim> 요새 계속 메일링 오고가는게 있거든요.
[10:54] <PotatoGim> 그걸 정리한게 LWN에 최근에 다시 올라왔었는데...
[10:55] <PotatoGim> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.samba.internals/86691
[10:56] <DarkCircle> congestion control이 굳이 cubic에만 국한이 되는건 아닐테고 ...
[10:56] <PotatoGim> Samba 4.3부터는 CTDB 기반 클러스터링에서 FileChangeNotify가 포함됐네요~
[10:56] <DarkCircle> 네트워크는 깊게 들어가는게 아니라 옆으로 문어발처럼 퍼지니까
[10:56] <DarkCircle> 이름은 다를듯.
[10:58] <DarkCircle> 근데 직접 알고리즘을 적용해보긴 했는데 이게 실제로 성능이 개선된다고 해도 이론상 주장하는 성능하고 실제 돌아가는 성능은 달라요.
[10:58] <PotatoGim> 원래 모든 이론이 그렇죠~ㅎㅎ
[10:59] <DarkCircle> 이상적인 성능이 보장되려면 반대쪽에도 동일한 알고리즘을 지원해줘야 하는데
[10:59] <DarkCircle> 안그러면 꼬이거든요.
[10:59] <DarkCircle> 서로 속도가 안맞아서 한쪽이 밀리고 그러다 보니까 돌아가다 멈추다 그래요
[11:01] <PotatoGim> ㅎㅎ BIC나 CUBIC이야 2.6.x부터 올라온거니 믿어봐야죠~
[11:02] <PotatoGim> 저같은 범인보다야 훨씬 대단한 사람들이니..ㅎㅎ
[11:02] <DarkCircle> 그때부터 올라왔지만 실제로는 아직도 대부분 Cubic/Reno 로 간다능 ...
[11:03] <PotatoGim> RENO는 갈길 다 간 듯~
[11:05] <DarkCircle> 넹 Reno만 쓰면 퍼포먼스가 훅 떨어져요. 그리고 더이상 뭐 어떻게 손 댈 꺼리도 안보이고 ..
[11:13] <PotatoGim> http://bitsup.blogspot.fr/2015/09/thanks-google-tcp-team-for-open-source.html
[11:14] <PotatoGim> 아오.. LWN이 아니라 메일링에 붙어온 링크랑 착각을...
[11:15] <PotatoGim> 저게 2.6.18부터 있었던 것 같은데 이제 빠빠이하겠네요 ㅎㅎ
[11:20] <PotatoGim> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/30927520dbae297182990bb21d08762bcc35ce1d#commitcomment-14410036
[11:22] <DarkCircle> 제가 드린 링크에 congestion control window 쪽 알고리즘 수정한게 전부군요.
[11:22] <PotatoGim> 네, 저게 지금까지 문제였던 부분이거든요.
[11:22] <DarkCircle> 사실 제일 어려운건 델타타임 구하는건데 ...
[11:23] <DarkCircle> start_time ~= 0 이라고 가정할 때
[11:23] <DarkCircle> 임의의 초기 패킷 전송 시각 dt 구하는게
[11:23] <DarkCircle> 실질적으로 정확하지가 않아요.
[11:27] <DarkCircle> 결국 시간 계산 잘못해서 cwnd도 잘못 구한거네 ...
[11:31] <DarkCircle> start_time이랑 초기 dt 구하는 문제는 time critical한 분야에 모두 적용이 돼요.
[11:31] <DarkCircle> 테스팅 툴 같은 쪽은 더더욱.
[11:35] <PotatoGim> 델타 시간이 들어가는 것만으로도 시작 시간을 따지는 부분은 영향력이 적죠.
[11:36] <PotatoGim> CUBIC은 최근 패킷 손실 이후를 따지기 때문이긴 한데
[11:36] <DarkCircle> 근데 그게 한두번이면 상관 없는데 결국 누적이 되는 문제다보니까 - -;
[11:36] <DarkCircle> 뭐 이런거죠. 첫단추 잘못끼우면 망하는거. (응?)
[11:36] <PotatoGim> 이 부분은 RTT 때문이고, 이 부분은 사실 거의 다 비스무리..ㅎㅎ
[11:37] <PotatoGim> 얼마나 차이날지 궁금하네요
[11:39] <PotatoGim> 사실 RTT 공평성 따지는 알고리즘들은 다 고만고만할 수 밖에 없긴 한데 혹시나...ㅎㅎ
[11:43] <DarkCircle> 네 ㅋㅋㅋ 사실 그냥 쓰는 입장에선 별 상관않고 쓰는데
[11:44] <DarkCircle> 테스트할땐 미리 마이크로 단위로 따지다보니까 쪼금이라도 차이나면
[11:44] <DarkCircle> 가차없이 까이는거죠 ㅋㅋ
[11:44] <DarkCircle> ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[11:45] <PotatoGim> 아... Samba ADS 참여할 때 자꾸 *에 대해서 RID 설정하는 부분을 잊어버리네요...ㅡㅡ;
[11:48] <PotatoGim> 이런 사소한 것들을 놓치니 맨날 삽질을...
[11:49] <DarkCircle> 시스템 설정을 어딘가에 git 같은걸로 관리하면 되게 편할거 가튼데 _-_
[11:50] <DarkCircle> gitorite가 설정을 끌어오고 저장할 때 git으로 처리하쥬 ...
[11:54] <PotatoGim> 음.. 혼자서는 그냥 대충 git에다가 밀어넣고 심볼릭으로 땡치는데...
[11:54] <PotatoGim> 배포나 이런거에 대해 잘 모르니 영 쥐약이네요 ㅎㅎ
[11:55] <DarkCircle> 가끔 이런 꼼수는 가능할듯 싶은데요
[11:55] <DarkCircle> NFS로 마운트해서 일괄적으로 쫙 뿌려 제끼는거 ...
[11:59] <PotatoGim> 음.. 주워 듣기로는 엔지니어들 사이에서 puppet이 핫하다던데 쓰기 어려울까요?
[12:00] <DarkCircle> 뭐 puppet 쓰는데도 있고 ...
[12:01] <DarkCircle> 도커 쓰는데도 많더군요 ㅋㅎㅎ
[12:01] <DarkCircle> 관리하는 사람 취향에 따른듯.
[12:01] <DarkCircle> 요새 분위기가 좋다고 우루루 따라가는 그런식은 아니라 (...)
[12:05] <PotatoGim> 꼼꼼하지 못해서 이런 설정 배포를 수동으로 하면 꼭 빼먹네요...ㅜ
[12:22] <DarkCircle> 뭐 ... 그럴수록 오히려 해놓고 잊어버리는게 제일 나을지도 몰라요.
[12:23] <DarkCircle> 신경쓰면 암걸릴거 같고 (ㅋㅋㅋ)
[16:38] <autowiz_> 데구르르를
[16:55] <samahui_WS> 뒹굴뒹굴~
[18:34] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:55] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요 ~~
[19:12] <Work^Seony> 미국은 이제 Thanksgiving day가 다가와서, 사람들이 다들 들뜨기 시작하는군요...
[19:29] <autowiz_> 여기도 슬슬 연말 분위기 낼 타이밍이 됐는데
[19:30] <autowiz_> 최근엔 경기아 안좋아서인지 사람들이 다들 활력이 없어서인지
[19:31] <autowiz_> 연말 분위기가 우중충 했는데 올해는 또 어떨지 기대반 의심반 입니다 ㅎㅎ
[19:42] <Work^Seony> 여기는 땡스기빙데이랑 크리스마스가 엄청 큰 명절이거든요
[19:42] <Work^Seony> 한국으로 치면 추석이랑 설날 수준이라 분위기가 진짜 명절 같아요 ㅎㅎ
[20:07] <MENT> 안녕하세요.
[20:07] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[20:08] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요
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"poky",
"razGon_MINILA",
"samahui_WS"
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-release
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[13:46] <yofel> erm, how come e-c-m was moved to core?
[13:48] <yofel> Laney: thanks (didn't see your message over the weekend). I wonder why the bot didn't report any packageset changes, but looking at the ACL it does seem to have done what I wanted.
[13:48] <ogra_> whats e-c-m and which of the 100 "core" images do you mean ?
[13:49] <yofel> [queuebot] Packageset: Removed extra-cmake-modules from kubuntu in xenial
[13:49] <yofel> [queuebot] Packageset: Added extra-cmake-modules to core in xenial
[13:49] <ogra_> (snappy ... or infinity's minimal ubuntu-core ... etc )
[13:49] <ogra_> ah, not sure what core in this context is then ... that name is so overloaded
[13:50] <Laney> You think "Packageset:" is not clear?
[13:50] <ogra_> the initial question didnt say "packageset" sorry
[13:51] <Laney> yofel: Probably some build dependency
[13:51] <ogra_> (and it is still to overloaded )
[13:52] <yofel> Laney: most likely, yeah. What's the appropriate way to get it back? We maintain ECM, so that's a bit of a hindrance.
[16:58] <cking> hey, can somebody help me with getting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/1491729/ SRU'd? it's a little bit time sensitive
[17:00] <infinity> cking: Get apw or rtg or arges to review/sponsor an upload for you, and I'll review it in the queue.
[17:01] <cking> infinity, yup, ack
[17:01] <infinity> cking: Interestingly, the lack of dependency/ordering is why we made the nvidia modules all live in a single package.
[17:02] <infinity> cking: That would have also been an acceptable solution here, perhaps.
[17:02] <infinity> cking: Not that I mind dkms being extended to be less crap either, if it's testable and well-tested.
[17:02] <cking> infinity, whatever we do to DKMS, ultimately I'd like to see less of it being used
[17:03] <infinity> cking: Yeah. We still need to address the elephant in the room that is enforced module sigs. We've certainly wasted a lot of hot air on proposed solutions, but I think we still need to decide on a path forward.
[17:04] * cking nods
[17:04] <arges> cking: looking
[17:32] <cking> infinity, arges has uploaded it for me
[17:35] <infinity> cking: Ta. I'm running out to the doctor, but I'll look before EOD.
[17:35] <cking> infinity, thanks :-)
[17:35] <infinity> cking: If I fail to, smack me when you start tomorrow. :P
[17:35] <cking> slap perhaps, smack no
[17:36] <infinity> cking: Tomayto, tomahto.
[17:39] <cking> heh
[18:09] <lamont> infinity: I just uploaded bcache-tools_1.0.7-1~12.04.1 for precise-proposed. pls to bless (1449099)
[18:57] <teward> how long is the xenial proposed migration to non-proposed state for autosyncs?
[18:58] <cjwatson> teward: auto-syncs aren't special for this.
[18:58] <cjwatson> teward: The whole process just runs as frequently as it can without treading on itself.
[18:58] <teward> ok
[22:02] <bdmurray> arges: Could tell me why your sru-review change is needed? If there are two versions of a package in the queue I usually just reject one, then review the other.
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"teward",
"yofel"
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:04] <Unit193> micahg: Danke!
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <bipul> Good morning.
[08:38] <Laney> infinity: It'll get reverted unless you use the script
[08:38] <Laney> unless it was correct
[08:39] <infinity> Laney: I'm not familiar with "the script", but alright.
[08:39] <Laney> lp:~developer-membership-board/+junk/packageset
[08:40] * Laney is running it now
[09:07] <Laney> ok, it kept gdm3 :)
[18:42] <teward> question regarding backports. `requestbackport` shows a lot of -dbgsym packages, I assume those just need to 'install'? Or is there no need to test those, since the built binaries (according to Debian) are the non '-dbgsym' packages?
[18:42] <teward> (i.e. for requestbackport)
[22:39] <Logan> teward: don't worry about those
[22:39] <Logan> I feel like requestbackport should be filtering them out
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2015-11-16-#lubuntu
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[00:42] <jwarren> Anyone have any suggestions for remote desktop clients?
[00:43] <Unit193> remmina?
[00:43] <Unit193> !info remmina-plugin-rdp
[00:43] <Unit193> I use it with the freerdp backend, considering rdesktop is dead.
[00:44] <jwarren> I like it, thanks for the info!
[02:28] <skryking> jwarren: I use x2go
[09:06] <NGRH8> why do niggers exist?
[09:46] <pterodactile> I have trouble with my Lubuntu on desktop after log to my session, the desktop is now not displayed, I have only the background screen
[11:47] <Vlado2> Hi, I have a bug report, i tried "try lubuntu without installing" 15.10 i386 on my desktop and when i launched youtube in fireforex, the remainig desktop stopped responding to mouse clicks
[11:50] <bioterror> !bug
[11:56] <Vlado2> which package?
[11:56] <Vlado2> firefox?
[11:58] <bioterror> if you reboot that system and you can redo that problem, then I would make the bug report probably against live media itself
[11:59] <Vlado2> i'm just writing from windows on the same machine, i can try to replicate that but
[15:39] <wefiswdfkjsdf> so
[15:39] <wefiswdfkjsdf> anyone have suggestions for a Lubuntu laptop user?
[15:40] <genii> Keep your head up and your stick on the ice
[15:42] <wefiswdfkjsdf> >.>
[15:42] <wefiswdfkjsdf> I'm benchmarking my SSD in a sata2 slot (the ssd is sata3)
[15:42] <wefiswdfkjsdf> 266 MB/s read, 151 MB/s write
[15:42] <wefiswdfkjsdf> It's actually saturating the bus :)
[15:45] <wefiswdfkjsdf> I have to do a full distro upgrade
[15:45] <wefiswdfkjsdf> and I'm scare.d
[15:46] <genii> Did your Lubuntu go End Of Life now?
[15:48] <wefiswdfkjsdf> no
[15:48] <wefiswdfkjsdf> it's LTS until 2017 iirc
[16:01] <genii> So Precise then
[18:25] <teward> Lubuntu's affected by the fglrx / radeon issue just like Ubuntu is, right?
[18:25] <bazhang> sure
[18:25] <teward> that's what I thought
[18:25] <bazhang> its all ubuntu
[18:25] <wxl> i see no reason why it would be diffferent teward
[18:25] <teward> wxl: just double checking ;)
[18:38] <FatSpitfire> hi guys :) long time no see , you all !!! :D
[18:42] <FatSpitfire> ok everyone`s asleep I guess :D hahaha
[18:42] <wxl> need something, FatSpitfire ?
[18:43] <FatSpitfire> yes I do bro :)
[18:43] <FatSpitfire> sorry I dissapeared like for a year :(
[18:43] * wxl shrugs
[18:44] <teward> FatSpitfire: is it the Steam / fglrx issue that you had in #ubuntu ?
[18:44] <teward> (lots of us do lurk both here and there :P)
[18:44] <FatSpitfire> I know :P but not all !!! hahahaha
[18:45] <FatSpitfire> it`s not really a problem for me - I just needed to let it all out - and you guys on #ubuntu are ... well not very friendly - know what I mean !
[18:45] <teward> so, I'm not friendly then.
[18:46] <teward> Okay, welcome to IT hell.
[18:46] <teward> (wxl knows what this means)
[18:46] <bazhang> is there a lubuntu offtopic channel
[18:46] <teward> bazhang: -offtopic
[18:46] <teward> appended :)
[18:46] <wxl> heheh
[18:46] <bazhang> makes sense!
[18:46] <FatSpitfire> he knows me too ...
[18:47] <FatSpitfire> so ...
[18:47] <teward> well, i'm going to go fix IPv6 on my one server. Have fun being rude, FatSpitfire, enjoy the IT hell you're going to be visiting
[18:47] * teward goes to do something productive
[18:47] <FatSpitfire> I`d like to return and continue from where I started please :) is this possible wxl ?
[18:48] <wxl> FatSpitfire: i have no idea what your issue is, but if it's graphical, it's a general concern and #ubuntu should be able to help
[18:48] <FatSpitfire> me being rude ?! dude ... you don`t even know me
[18:48] <teward> FatSpitfire: so, to summarize:
[18:48] <teward> you want to use Steam
[18:48] <teward> but fglrx dropped support for your card
[18:48] <teward> question is: does Steam support 'radeon'?
[18:48] <teward> (the open source drivers)
[18:48] <teward> so far am I right?
[18:48] <teward> or did you decide to have a different set of questions for here?
[18:48] <FatSpitfire> yes ... on 15.04 :) you`re correct
[18:48] <teward> FatSpitfire: the answer is Steam does not support the open source Radeon drivers
[18:48] <teward> k1l said as much
[18:49] <FatSpitfire> me returning here ... is a different issue !
[18:49] * teward yawns
[18:49] <teward> wxl: no daily ISOs for me to test for Lubuntu yet are there?
[18:49] <teward> (can't find any to zsync)
[18:49] <FatSpitfire> I used to be a part of the Padawan project
[18:51] <epictetus> FatSpitfire: this isn't #ubuntu why did you say "you guys on #ubuntu" that isn't us hehe
[18:51] <epictetus> i think you typo'ed and joined wrong channel :P
[18:51] <FatSpitfire> I meant you guys that are here and on #ubuntu at the same time :D
[18:51] <teward> epictetus: he was there
[18:51] <teward> being rude :p
[18:51] <teward> got scolded by k1l :P
[18:51] <FatSpitfire> no tipos here dude
[18:51] <epictetus> everyone knows you should be polite in #lubuntu
[18:52] <epictetus> you should only be rude in #pulseaudio and #systemd
[18:52] <teward> lolol
[18:52] <epictetus> cuz seriously, f*** those guys
[18:52] <FatSpitfire> and I am - because I had lot`s of good buddies here
[18:53] <FatSpitfire> hahahah :D I hear ya on that one bro (y)
[18:53] <epictetus> i'm banned from #pulseaudio
[18:53] <wxl> teward: and yes there are daily isos
[18:53] <wxl> so it sounds like your support request has been answered, FatSpitfire. is there something else you need?
[18:53] <epictetus> I kept trying to convince all the pulseuadio developers to stop programming and take up other hobbies because the world is better off without them programming
[18:54] <wxl> epictetus: might want to take this discussion to -offtopic :)
[18:54] <teward> wxl: got a link to the zsync links?
[18:54] <teward> 'cause I can't find em :/
[18:54] <wxl> teward: did you look on the iso tracker?
[18:54] <bioterror> epictetus, isnt it good that they are ruining just sone piece of software instead of spreading across the internet on making more software useless?
[18:54] <teward> you mean the page that is white for me?
[18:54] <wxl> not here teward http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds
[18:55] <epictetus> bioterror: systemd is spreading across the internet :P
[18:55] <wxl> bioterror: offtopic
[18:55] <teward> ahhh there we go
[19:39] <FatSpitfire> wxl: you didn`t answer my question : is the Padawan program still open ?
[19:45] <redwolf> FatSpitfire, Linux Padawan is still open
[19:51] <wxl> not really a lubuntu support question, but yes FatSpitfire
[19:51] <FatSpitfire> thanks guys :)
[19:52] <FatSpitfire> and since when things here are only-support ?!
[19:52] <wxl> always
[19:52] <redwolf> well, it's the Lubuntu official channel, we have #lubuntu-offtopic to discuss other things
[19:53] <wxl> that's why it's mentioned in the topic :)
[19:58] <FatSpitfire> ? so I used to hang on the offtopic channel ? I`m not that sure ? how about a year ago ?
[19:58] <redwolf> you're welcome to join it now :)
[19:59] <FatSpitfire> are you sure ? do they still remember me there ?
[20:00] <redwolf> nope. they forgot the exact moment you left. come on, join.
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2015-11-16-#ubuntu-pl
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[10:28] <mnms> Witam panowie. Pytalem juz na #ubuntu, ale tam cisza. Skonfigurowalem pod ubuntu sambe i udostepnilem pare share'ow z security type=user. Przy probie mapowania zasobu z win7 odrzuca moje poswiadczenia, a w logach samby wypluwa ze nie moze znalezc service'u (share'a), poniewaz z tego co widze ucina ostatnia litere. Spotkals sie ktos z podobnym problemem ?
[10:53] <Dread> smbpasswd było?
[12:12] <qermit> mnms: nie spotkałem
[12:12] <qermit> mnms: wrzuć gdzies konfigurację swojej samby
[12:13] <qermit> mnms: ja wole uzywac - security = share
[12:37] <mnms> Dread: smbpasswd bylo
[12:38] <qermit> mnms: pokash ten konfig i logi
[12:38] <mnms> Ogolnie to problem wystepowal jak bylem zalogowany na innego usera i probowalem zmapowac podajac dane innego usera
[12:39] <mnms> qermit: teraz jestem atakowany nastepnym komunikatem: string_to_sid: SID @serwis is not in a valid format. Juz wklejam
[12:39] <mnms> w sensie wrzuce gdzies te konfigi
[12:47] <mnms> qermit: http://pastebin.com/rq11CgSA
[12:47] <qermit> masz grupę serwis?
[12:47] <qermit> http://pastebin.com/rq11CgSA
[12:47] <qermit> fack
[12:48] <qermit> getent group serwis
[12:48] <qermit> o, bida firma
[12:48] <mnms> stworzylem grupe unixowa serwis
[12:49] <drathir> bry...
[12:49] <qermit> teraz?
[12:49] <mnms> qermit: byla stworzona na poczatku
[12:49] <qermit> mnms: podejrzewam problem z mapperem w takim razie
[12:51] <mnms> qermit: nie mapowalem w ogole group
[12:51] <qermit> wiem
[12:51] <qermit> ale samba musi to zmapować na SID
[12:51] <qermit> jakoś
[12:51] <qermit> idmap config * : backend = tdb <- czyli konfigurowałeś
[12:51] <mnms> myslalem ze po nazwie usera ktory podawany jest potrafi wyszukac do jakich grup nalzy
[12:51] <qermit> potrafi
[12:52] <mnms> to czemu katuje mnie tymi logami ?
[12:52] <qermit> mnms: btw - polecam tobie FreeIPA jeżeli chcesz się bawić w sambowanie
[12:52] <qermit> mnms: wklej trochę logów
[12:53] <mnms> qermit: ogolnie w logach w kolko przewija sie ten komunikat ../libcli/security/dom_sid.c:208(dom_sid_parse_endp) string_to_sid: SID @serwis is not in a valid format
[12:54] <mnms> tylko rozne grupy
[12:54] <drathir> a samba nie ma osobnych poswiadczen niz systemowe? /me dawno nie uzywal...
[12:54] <qermit> samba to samba
[12:54] <qermit> mnms: no coś masz nie tak z domeną
[12:55] <qermit> /msg *status /* BIG NOTE: this function only does SIDS where the identauth is not >= 2^32 */
[12:58] <qermit> conv > UINT8_MAX)
[12:58] <qermit> drathir: jakie masz gidy?
[12:58] <qermit> mnms: jakie masz gidy?
[12:59] <mnms> UINT8 ?
[12:59] <mnms> takk niskie ?
[12:59] <qermit> http://code.metager.de/source/xref/samba/libcli/security/dom_sid.c
[13:00] <mnms> no juz patrze na kod...
[13:01] <qermit> czekaj, coś mnie tu nie pasi
[13:01] <mnms> rozumiem, ze sidstr to bedzie w tym przypadku @serwis
[13:02] <qermit> a nie, czekaj to są wersje rewizji
[13:02] <mnms> qermit: patrzysz ta funkcje
[13:02] <mnms> dom_sid_parse_endp ?
[13:02] <mnms> to jest parswoanie SIDA
[13:02] <qermit> tak
[13:02] <qermit> i tam ci się wywala
[13:03] <qermit> https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Identifier
[13:03] <mnms> no to zobacz co u mnie sie dzieje zamast dostac tego sida dostaje nazwe grupy
[13:04] <mnms> tak ja to widze, popraw mnie jesli zle mysle
[13:04] <qermit> no może tak być
[13:04] <mnms> tylko do cholery czemu..
[13:06] <mnms> z tego co widze na samba learn koncowki maja konfigurowana domene do ktorej nelza i na sambie robione jest mapowanie
[13:07] <mnms> tylko chcielabym uniknac konfigurowanie koncowek i zostawienie tylko grupy roboczej - nie wiem czy tak to moze w ogole dzialac..
[13:15] <qermit> mnms: a co próbujesz osiągnąć?
[13:15] <qermit> mnms: może lepiej postawić prawdziwego IDN
[13:17] <mnms> qermit: dostep do zasobow z ograniczeniem zapisu i odczytu dla grup uzytkownikow
[13:17] <mnms> w tej chwili samba jest w standalone mode
[13:18] <mnms> i to dziala ale czasami ktos nie moze dostac sie do zasobu z jakiegos powodu potem zaczyna to dzialac (pewnie po restarcie). No i te wpisy w logach z SIDami
[13:18] <mnms> w ogole nie moze przegladac zasobow, a nie dostac sie do jednego zasobu*
[13:19] <qermit> mnms: z doświadczenia wiem że najlepiej zacząć od secyrity = share
[13:19] <mnms> qermit: a to nie zostalo wycofane w sambie 4 ?
[13:19] <mnms> cos mi swita ze gdzies wizialem...
[13:19] <qermit> mnms: a, samba4
[13:19] <qermit> po co tobie samba4?
[13:20] <mnms> no 4.1.6 ? :)
[13:20] <mnms> cos z nia nie tak
[13:20] <mnms> ?
[13:20] <mnms> pierwszy raz bawie sie z samba ;)
[13:22] <qermit> mnms: http://wklej.org/id/1844821/
[13:22] <qermit> kermit@szenbor:~$ samba -V
[13:22] <qermit> Version 4.1.17-Ubuntu
[13:22] <mnms> zagubilem sie :)
[13:24] <qermit> mnms: podejrzewam że jeszcze do czegoś będziesz chciał używac kiedyś bazy użytkowników. Polecam FreeIPA (do trzymania danych o userach). Używam tego do zarządzania dostępem do linuxów głównie
[13:24] <qermit> zacznij od tego konfiga co ci podałem
[13:25] <qermit> phttp://www.freeipa.org/page/Howto/Integrating_a_Samba_File_Server_With_IPA
[13:25] <mnms> wkleiles mi mojego pastebina chyba
[13:25] <qermit> 14:22 < qermit> mnms: http://wklej.org/id/1844821/
[13:25] <mnms> ok, sorrt
[13:26] <mnms> qermit: ale jestem w stanie ograniczyc zapis i odczyt dla grup uzytkownikow przy security share
[13:27] <mnms> ?
[13:27] <qermit> no jesteś
[13:27] <qermit> mnms: jest taki plus że część udziałów można wtedy używać bez żadnych poświadczeń
[13:27] <qermit> w porównaniu do security user
[13:28] <mnms> ale czytam smb.conf i nie ma tam w security opcji share
[13:28] <mnms> https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html#SECURITY
[13:29] <qermit> mnms: różnica jest taka że przy user - całe połączenie jest robione jednym poświadczeniem , a share traktuje osobono każdy udział
[13:30] <qermit> https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ServerType.html#id2559276
[13:30] <qermit> mnms: ty patrzysz na sekcję [global]
[13:31] <qermit> olej to
[13:32] <mnms> no ale w Twoim konfigu security = share jest w globalu - sorry jesli mieszam, ale nie kumam tego..
[13:32] <qermit> pczekaj, może coś pokręciłem
[13:34] <mnms> ok
[13:34] <qermit> WARNING: Ignoring invalid value 'share' for parameter 'security'
[13:34] <qermit> faktycznie zmieniło się od wersji 3
[13:35] <qermit> dawno tego nie sprawdzałem
[13:35] <mnms> no mowie, user jest default teraz
[13:35] <mnms> hm
[13:35] <qermit> mnms: to poprostu zakomentuj :)
[13:35] <qermit> powinno działać
[13:36] <mnms> ale Twoj konfig nie ma write list i read list z grupami
[13:36] <qermit> muszę podłączyć swoją sambę do IPA
[13:36] <mnms> wiec nie wiadomo czy tez bedzie dzialal
[13:36] <qermit> mnms: zacznij od czegoś co działa
[13:36] <mnms> teoretycznie moze byc to samo bo duzo one sie nie roznia od siebie
[13:36] <qermit> potem spróbuj dodać grupę
[13:38] <mnms> qermit: z tego ludzie korzystaja juz.. druga sprawa ze moj blad to problem z SIDEM i grupami jesi wywale grupy, read listy i write listy, nie sadze zebybyl problem
[13:39] <mnms> a IPA zarzadza userami systemowymi przez web'a tak ?
[13:39] <qermit> ma moduł do zarządzania przez WWW
[13:40] <qermit> dosyć ładne wdrożenie kerberosa, ma tryb replikacji multimaster
[13:42] <mnms> pisze ze fedora i redhat
[13:43] <mnms> jest juz paczka czy trzeba kompilowac pod ubuntu
[13:43] <qermit> mnms: nie wiem, serwer postawiłem na CentOS 7.1
[13:43] <qermit> mnms: odseparowany
[13:43] <qermit> mnms: w domu z kolei mam wirtualkę z CentOS 7.1
[13:43] <mnms> qermit: ciezka sprawa z wdrozeniem tego
[13:43] <firemark> to fajnego w centosie?
[13:44] <qermit> firemark: ma pakiet FreeIPA serwer
[13:44] <qermit> mnms: na ubuntu są już od jakiegoś czasu moduły IPA do SSSD
[13:44] <mnms> qermit: wolalbym rozwiazac ten problem z samba, niz wchodzic w cos nowego raczej
[13:45] <qermit> możesz to zrobić samą sambą, ale rozsypie ci się konfig/bazka wewnętrzna i będziesz zakładał konta ludziom od nowa
[13:45] <qermit> 1GB ram spokojnie strcza na wirtualkę
[13:48] <mnms> qermit: w jakim sensie zrobic sama sambe ?
[13:57] <qermit> mnms: konfig który robisz wymaga dwuch rzeczy
[13:57] <qermit> mnms: wewnetrznej bazy użytkowników samby i bazy systemowej
[13:57] <qermit> takie trochę kijowe rozwiązanie
[14:01] <qermit> mnms: jest jeden plus użycia IPA - masz gotowe rozwiązanie do zarządzania kompami (linux)
[14:02] <qermit> nie trzeba się gimnastykować z synchronizacją haseł
[14:03] <mnms> qermit: caly czas mowisz o IPA, nie upieram sie ze to nie jest lepsze rozwiazanie po prostu chcialbym rozwiazac problem z samba, na ta chwile to dla mnie lepsze rozwiazanie
[14:03] <mnms> mialo byc caly czas mowiszo IPA ?
[14:03] <qermit> mnms: widzę że lepsze, pewnie działa :)
[14:22] <mnms> qermit: :)
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