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[04:06] <pitti> Good morning
[04:15] <TheMuso> Hey pitti, how are you?
[04:25] <pitti> hey TheMuso! a bit tired still, but good, thanks! how about yourself?
[04:27] <TheMuso> pitti: Not too bad thanks, glad to have air conditioning here today, 40+ degrees in Sydney, can't wait for the southerly cool change so I can open my windows again. :)
[04:27] <pitti> urgh, steaming
[04:27] <TheMuso> Pretty much.
[04:33] <pitti> Laney: meh, more weird MemoryErrors and segfaults -- time to reboot this box
[04:33] <pitti> Laney: maybe the piled up ksplices eventually made the kernel's head explode
[05:51] <darkxst> pitti, how did this manage to migrate through proposed? bug 1518035
[05:52] <pitti> darkxst: we don't do upgrade tests as part of proposed-migration
[05:52] <pitti> apparently a fresh install works
[05:57] <darkxst> pitti, right that makes sense
[06:06] <didrocks> good morning
[06:14] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[06:20] <hikiko> Morning !
[06:27] <didrocks> good morning pitti, hikiko!
[06:39] <pitti> Laney: dbus tests are reeeeally unhappy, the root tests keep timing out
[06:39] * pitti cancels the currently running ones, no point
[06:52] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:52] <seb128> hey didrocks, pitti
[06:52] <seb128> pitti, Laney is off today :-/
[06:52] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[06:52] <seb128> though I would not be surprised if he reads IRC
[06:57] <didrocks> re seb128
[06:58] <didrocks> Laney: preventively: "go away"! :)
[08:04] <pitti> ok, that should have cleared a lot of -proposed stuff
[08:06] <seb128> pitti, "that"?
[08:07] <pitti> seb128: retrying tests, adding hints, retrying some failed builds
[08:07] <seb128> ah, ok
[08:07] <pitti> a lot of arm64 builds failed in a weird way
[08:07] * seb128 wonders what transitions is the solid block at the bottom of update_output
[08:07] <pitti> seb128: and bringing moah powah to my clouds, so the queues finally cleared up \o/
[08:08] <pitti> seb128: isn't that just the concatenation of everything it tries to migrate?
[08:08] <pitti> that "autohinter" thing
[08:08] <seb128> does it always does that?
[08:09] <pitti> there's certainly a bunch of valid candidates which wait for finishing lib transitions, like imobiledevice
[08:09] <seb128> libimobiledevice seems to miss a upower rebuild
[08:10] <seb128> pitti, did you have any content to include for that one or should we go for a no change?
[08:10] <pitti> ah, easy; want me to, or are you on it?
[08:10] <seb128> I can do it
[08:10] <pitti> heh
[08:10] <seb128> just wanted to check if you had actually patches pending or something
[08:10] <pitti> seb128: I suppose your "upload a no-change rebuild" script is as good as everyone else's :)
[08:10] <seb128> doing it then ;-)
[08:11] <pitti> cheers
[08:11] <seb128> yw!
[08:21] <larsu> happy Friday!
[08:21] <seb128> hey larsu, happy friday!
[08:21] <seb128> wie gehts?
[08:23] <Trevinho> morning
[08:27] <seb128> hey Trevinho!
[08:27] <Trevinho> hey seb128
[08:28] <seb128> how are you?
[08:28] <larsu> seb128: gut danke. und idr?
[08:28] <larsu> *dir
[08:28] <didrocks> happy Friday larsu, Trevinho!
[08:28] <larsu> hi Trevinho! Sup?
[08:28] <seb128> larsu, auch gut, danke :-)
[08:28] <larsu> bonjour didrocks
[08:38] <Trevinho> hi larsu .... Trying to fix my broken head... :-/
[08:40] <larsu> Trevinho: oh what's up?
[08:42] <Trevinho> larsu: still the same.... I've not been able to fix myself yet. Trying to fight with nightly panic attacks.
[08:42] <larsu> Trevinho: sorry to hear. All the best!
[08:42] <Trevinho> larsu: thanks
[08:43] <pitti> hey larsu!
[08:43] <pitti> hello Trevinho
[08:43] * seb128 just spent ~1.5 hours going through the 300 or so "most recently changed" bugs on launchpad, enough triaging for today
[08:44] <seb128> (trying to do a bit of that every day since wily to keep on top of new issues reported/important ones)
[08:44] <larsu> morgen pitti! Wie gehts?
[08:44] <Trevinho> hi pitti
[08:44] <larsu> seb128: good work! Thanks
[08:44] <pitti> larsu: prima, danke!
[08:44] <seb128> :-)
[08:45] <seb128> shotwell is another unhappy program because of the glib file monitor improvements :-/
[08:45] <seb128> segfault when editing photos with an external editor
[08:45] * pitti hugs seb128
[08:46] * seb128 hugs pitti back
[08:49] <larsu> seb128: "improvements"
[08:50] <seb128> larsu, yeah :-)
[08:52] * didrocks will not get the card of backward compatibility in term of behaviors :p
[08:52] <larsu> didrocks: that would mean we could never fix behaviour bugs
[08:52] <larsu> there's a balance
[08:52] <larsu> but yeah ... this situation is breaking all kinds of things
[08:53] <didrocks> larsu: well, some frameworks do that and add new calls
[08:53] <didrocks> or flags to enable the new "fixed" behavior
[08:53] <didrocks> larsu: the extreme would be to fix "this" in javascript for instance :p
[08:53] <didrocks> it's the kind of things we do, and thus, the result in crashing apps…
[08:56] <larsu> indeed
[08:56] <larsu> like I say, it's a balance :)
[08:58] <larsu> seb128: which nautilus version do you need the menubar patch for? Will we stay on 3.14?
[08:58] <seb128> larsu, 3.18
[08:58] <larsu> nice :)
[08:58] <seb128> larsu, no, if we were to stay on 3.14 we wouldn't need a patch since that has a menubar :p
[08:58] <larsu> not for me :/
[08:58] <seb128> well or at least our package has one
[08:59] <seb128> but it's built on old code
[08:59] <larsu> ah, restart
[08:59] <seb128> which got rewriten to use moder gaction, etc
[08:59] <larsu> weird
[08:59] <larsu> right right
[09:06] <larsu> woah, got asked about which login manager I want to use, again
[09:12] <larsu> and I need to restart nautilus after logging in before I have correct fonts or the global menubar
[09:12] * larsu blames xsettings not being there from the beginning
[09:12] <didrocks> pitti: do you know well how subprocess and os.environ interacts? I'm really puzzled on some weird behaviors when running tests…
[09:14] <larsu> hm firefox theme as well
[09:14] <larsu> is anyone else seeing this?
[09:20] <seb128> larsu, I don't
[09:20] <seb128> but I didn't upgrade yet today
[09:22] <happyaron> where is the latest snappy image?
[09:25] <seb128> happyaron, #snappy should know
[09:37] <pitti> didrocks: normally the spawned process should inherit the parent's env, unless you explicitly set env=
[09:37] <happyaron> seb128: thanks, :)
[09:37] <didrocks> pitti: agreed, it's not what happens here though
[09:38] <didrocks> pitti: I have reduced it to few lines, and it behaves different if I have one test class or multiple…
[09:56] <didrocks> pitti: if you have a minute, I have a gist to reproduce the issue: https://gist.github.com/didrocks/ae12d61138090b837c18
[09:57] <pitti> didrocks: oh, are you sure that assigning the whole os.environ array works?
[09:58] <pitti> didrocks: I'm not sure, but I faintly remember having run into this before too
[09:58] <pitti> didrocks: untested, but can you try instead:
[09:58] <didrocks> pitti: it does from the output, like the output doesn't contain http_proxy for instance
[09:58] <pitti> os.environ.clear()
[09:58] <pitti> os.environ.update(self.original_env)
[09:58] <didrocks> ah
[09:59] <didrocks> pitti: but it's still weird that a impacts b, isn't it?
[09:59] <pitti> i. e. keep the os.environ dict object itself unchanged, but only change its keys
[09:59] <didrocks> let me try
[09:59] <didrocks> (I can see that SHELL is restored though)
[10:00] <didrocks> pitti: yeah, it passes now :)
[10:00] <didrocks> I'm still unsure what happens under the hood though
[10:00] <didrocks> ohhhhhhh, I see
[10:00] <didrocks> so, what happens is that subprocess still reference os.environ, the original one
[10:00] <pitti> didrocks: os.environ is "magic" -- changing the reference to a different object apparenlty loses that magic
[10:00] <didrocks> not the one we replaced
[10:00] <pitti> and you assign it to a normal "dumb" dict
[10:01] <pitti> right
[10:01] <pitti> you shouldn't change the object itself (i. e. the reference to it)
[10:01] <didrocks> that's why it still got the env variable only if a ran
[10:01] <didrocks> happened before*
[10:01] <didrocks> pitti: it all makes sense now :)
[10:01] <didrocks> thanks a bunch, I was really fighting on that one (first, to reduce at that state)
[10:02] <didrocks> and so, if I only ran b, there was no issue, because I didn't touch os.environ assignement before
[10:02] <didrocks> still weird that in this magic, when I changed b, it was changing the new os.environ that I assigned
[10:02] <didrocks> but subprocess keeps using the old os.environ
[10:02] <didrocks> even if not called before
[10:03] <pitti> self.original_env = os.environ.copy()
[10:03] <pitti> didrocks: ^ maybe the .copy() just returns an ordinary dict, not the special "magic" one that actually calls setenv()?
[10:03] <pitti> but I don't know for sure
[10:04] <didrocks> pitti: that would make sense, indeed
[10:04] <pitti> just as far as "never assign os.environ", got burned and only remembered the "don't do that then"
[10:04] <didrocks> so we don't have anymore _Environ
[10:04] <didrocks> and so, it doesn't setenv()
[10:04] <didrocks> ahah :)
[10:04] <didrocks> pitti: rightly noted now!
[10:04] <didrocks> thanks a lot
[10:04] * didrocks hugs pitti
[10:05] <pitti> de rien !
[10:26] <Laney> pitti: ERROR:../../test/uid-permissions.c:129:test_uae: assertion failed (dbus_message_get_type (m) == DBUS_MESSAGE_TYPE_METHOD_RETURN): (3 == 2) <- there's a related UpdateActivationEnvironment change in this release - check with smcv?
[10:26] <Laney> might be that this should fail now
[10:27] <Laney> (3 is error)
[10:32] <seb128> hey Laney
[10:37] <Laney> hi seb128
[10:37] * Laney is looking at cake recipes
[10:37] <Laney> what's up?
[10:37] <seb128> how did the cake go?
[10:37] <Laney> not made yet
[10:37] <seb128> oh, not done yet :-)
[10:37] <seb128> new gtk migrated!
[10:38] <Laney> so I saw
[10:38] <Laney> yay cloud
[10:40] <Laney> someone can follow up with that dbus thing if they want or I can look on monday
[10:46] <seb128> if somebody things it's urgent I can have a look
[10:46] <seb128> otherwise I think it can wait monday
[10:51] <Laney> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93036
[10:51] * Laney goes to buy more ingredients now
[10:51] <Laney> later!
[10:51] <seb128> Laney, have fun!
[10:52] <seb128> oh, good, libimobiledevice transition went through
[10:52] <Sweet5hark> hmmm, no will.cooke in here today?
[10:52] <seb128> he said he would swap the morning
[10:52] <seb128> he should be there after lunch
[10:52] <seb128> speaking of lunch I start being hungry ;-)
[10:53] * didrocks does as well, going out for lunch, see you later guys :)
[10:53] <seb128> didrocks, enjoy!
[10:53] <didrocks> thanks, you too seb128
[11:25] <pitti> Laney: FYI, memory errors seem to be real; committed https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/commit/?id=17776035 and will re-deploy once the queue settled down
[12:26] <desrt> hello desktop-types. i hope you are having a good morning.
[12:40] <seb128> hey desrt, happy friday!
[12:40] <desrt> indeed!
[13:56] <didrocks> phew, all tests passed, finally! :p
[13:56] <pitti> didrocks: \o/
[13:57] <didrocks> pitti: thanks again! And with the large tests refactoring, I divided the testing time by two!
[13:57] <didrocks> (~50 minutes vs 1h40)
[13:57] <pitti> wow
[14:14] * didrocks celebrated with pushing 3 new tests
[14:51] <didrocks> tkamppeter: hey, why is hplip depending on pexpect? It seems just to be for testing, right? So build-dep, but not runtime dep?
[14:52] <didrocks> hum, seems that hplip has a pexpect embeeded version…
[14:53] <didrocks> and the dep was added in 2009 with the idea of removing the embeeded version
[14:53] <didrocks> which wasn't done in 5 years :p
[14:53] <didrocks> 6*
[14:54] <didrocks> ok, they are using pexpect in utils.py for handling some subprocess and giving password and such to it (urgh)
[14:56] <tkamppeter> didrocks, this is not done by me but by the Debian folks, perhaps a Debian bug should get reported.
[14:56] <didrocks> tkamppeter: mind opening one? are you maintaining this stack as well? :)
[14:56] <didrocks> tkamppeter: sounds like this kind of things shouldn't even be in main
[14:57] <didrocks> maybe I should ask for some security team review, but passing password to subprocess sounds like something I would have kicked the MIR out
[15:02] <didrocks> seb128: mind creating a https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-make-builddeps ppa?
[15:02] <didrocks> I want to ensure that testing/build-deps are not installed on user's machine if they add the ubuntu make ppa
[15:03] <didrocks> (like… pexpect that we install by default :/)
[15:03] <seb128> didrocks, done
[15:03] <didrocks> thanks!
[15:05] <seb128> yw!
[15:18] <didrocks> Sweet5hark: it seems that willcooke is here. I think you were looking for him ^
[15:18] <didrocks> btw, good morning willcooke :-)
[15:18] <willcooke> morning
[15:31] <Sweet5hark> heya! :)
[15:32] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: was just wondering about the lack of feedback on the 2oitg thing ... but I assume, if this is "morning" you are sprinting somewhere in the US?
[15:32] <willcooke> Sweet5hark, just swapped some hours this week
[15:33] <willcooke> Sweet5hark, seen you mail, but not digested it yet
[16:29] <attente> how does someone grep the archive?
[16:31] <didrocks> attente: what do you mean, grepping through all the sources ?
[16:32] <attente> didrocks: yeah. i think Laney had a web interface for it, but the url doesn't work any more
[16:32] <didrocks> attente: oh, I don't know about a web interface. archive admins can grep directly in the source file system, but that's it
[16:33] <didrocks> attente: if you only look for file names, though, you can do it throuh a web interface
[16:34] <attente> didrocks: could you do a couple greps for me? i'm looking for QT_IM_MODULE and maliitphablet
[16:34] <didrocks> attente: quite late to do that (I'm leaving in ~10 minutes), could do on Monday for sure
[16:34] <didrocks> or if seb128 is still there for some times, he might (or wait for Laney if he thinks there is a web interface)
[16:34] <attente> ah, ok, sure. have a good w.e!
[16:35] <didrocks> thanks (not left yet, but soon) ;)
[16:35] <seb128> I don't know of an handy way no
[16:35] <seb128> jdstrand had a script I think
[16:35] <seb128> Laney had a https://codesearch.debian.net/ equivalent up somewhere
[16:35] <seb128> but unsure if that's still a thing
[16:36] <attente> yeah, i think it used to be http://ubuntu-codesearch.surgut.co.uk/, but it hasn't been online in a while
[16:54] * didrocks goes, see you on Monday guys!
[16:54] <willcooke> see ya didrocks
[16:54] <didrocks> have a good week-end willcooke :)
[17:09] <seb128> have a good w.e!
[17:11] <willcooke> see ya seb128
[17:11] <seb128> see you on monday ;-)
[17:19] <Trevinho> guys, have nice weekend !
[17:20] <willcooke> see ya Trevinho
[17:20] <Trevinho> willcooke: see u
[19:13] <willcooke> g'night
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2015-11-20-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:05] <krytarik> knome: Also, would you be fine with "Common Tasks", rather than "How to..."?
[00:07] <knome> mmmmmh.
[00:07] <knome> maybe.
[00:07] <knome> the current title isn't meant to be final
[00:09] <krytarik> Yeah, just looks and feels weird.
[00:17] <krytarik> knome: "<para>Bazaar is a version control system and is commonly referred to as Bzr.</para>" - what should I use for "Bzr" there? I see that flocculant uses '<emphasis>' for the QA docs, but that also makes the text bold.
[00:18] <knome> hmm.
?
[00:18] <knome> makes it bold too, but meh
[00:18] <krytarik> Also, was that a "Yes, meh, go ahead."? :P
[00:19] <knome> i would probably put this inside a <note>
[00:19] <knome> i think <app is better
[00:19] <krytarik> Isn't that a bit too much?
[00:19] <knome> nah, it's fine
[00:19] <knome> it's not a section you are likely to read over and over again
[00:19] <knome> at least from the beginning to the end
[00:20] <krytarik> Alright, I'll do as you suggested then.
[00:21] <krytarik> Just to be clear, that's on the top just under the "Bazaar" header.
[00:21] <knome> yep
[00:21] <knome> also, what about calling the howto section "Reference" ?
[00:21] <krytarik> Hmm.
[00:22] <krytarik> Well, I can just leave that to you for later. :P
[00:25] <krytarik> Seriously though, I guess that'd be still be than "How to". :D
[00:25] <krytarik> - be
[00:26] <krytarik> "Common Reference" at least?
[00:26] <knome> wfm
[00:27] <krytarik> Alright.
[01:16] <krytarik> knome: Fine if I rename "processes-release-cycle.xml" to just "release-cycle.xml", consistent to its title and HTML file name?
[01:20] <knome> the filename is referring to a potential structure for the docs, so let's keep it as it is for now
[01:20] <krytarik> Alright.
[01:20] * krytarik reverts
[01:21] <knome> time to go to bed
[01:21] <knome> thanks for all the work :)
[01:22] <krytarik> Well. :D
[01:22] <krytarik> And night.
[01:22] <knome> ttyl ->
[01:36] <krytarik> And if no one wants to beat me to it, I might include command line instructions for the MP part.
[05:53] <krytarik> (Done.)
[06:01] <krytarik> flocculant: This is just for again now, updated: http://paste.openstack.org/show/E3wgCHbwYFoQRZcJrpKf/
[07:38] <flocculant> krytarik - "tell me if you're fine with the some additional changes" can't tell the difference between green, darker green, pink, darker pink, if something changed, what changed on that pastebin thing - so no.
[08:26] <flocculant> really can't see what's going on with the light green/pink stuff :(
[08:31] <flocculant> I find MPs a whole lot easier to read :)
[12:27] <knome> flocculant, actually, i find the pastebin better to read than the MPs in most of the places
[12:27] <knome> flocculant, glossary:
[12:27] <knome> flocculant, light pink -> line that has been changed or removed
[12:28] <knome> flocculant, light green -> line that has been changed (the new version) or added
[12:28] <knome> these are basically the pink/green colors of MP
[12:28] <knome> flocculant, the dark pink/green areas highlight the spot in the line(s) that has been changed
[12:28] <knome> flocculant, so you don't exactly have to review the whole line
[12:49] <flocculant> krytarik - mmm actually what's "bzr commit --fixes" about and why the need to change that? Given that none of anything else I've read requires that
[12:49] <flocculant> knome: but what about lines where there's no dark pink/green
[12:49] <knome> flocculant, context, like in the MP
[12:49] <flocculant> anyway - whatever - when there's actually an MP for it - I'll look then properly
[12:51] <flocculant> knome: this is what's confusing me then - because there are at least 2 cases where there are changes and no dark green/red
[12:51] <knome> yeah :)
[12:51] <flocculant> anyway - whatever - when there's actually an MP for it - I'll look then properly :)
[12:51] <knome> yep
[12:51] <flocculant> until I see that I'm not approving anything from my side
[12:52] <knome> lol
[12:59] <flocculant> obviously I don't care about the <!Entity stuff :)
[13:00] <knome> yeah
[13:01] <flocculant> too care about that I'd need an explanation of something that I don't care to know about :p
[15:47] <krytarik> flocculant: "this is what's confusing me then - because there are a
[15:47] <krytarik> t least 2 cases where there are changes and no dark green/red" - yeah, those are the annoying cases where it doesn't figure out what really changed, for some reason. :P
[15:47] <krytarik> Bleh.
[15:51] <krytarik> Also, the '--fixes' option for commits should set the referred bug report status to 'Fix Committed' automatically, while for the MP it just links it to the bug report - as mentioned in both text parts.
[15:56] <krytarik> flocculant: And of course, I didn't do any *factual* changes, only DocBook syntax, link anchor texts as mentioned before, consistency, wording, and typos.
[16:01] <slickymasterWork> krytarik, did you push the MP yet?
[16:02] <krytarik> Well, the bug status is only changed when the concerning commit is merged into the main branch, of course - and for no packages it should be set to 'Fix Released' then immediately.
[16:03] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: Nope, just started the day. :P
[16:03] <slickymasterWork> good life :P
[16:03] <krytarik> Well, 3 hours ago, but... :D
[16:05] <krytarik> Also, just doing some minor improvements on my yesterday's changes/additions.
[16:06] <slickymasterWork> drop a link after you made them, please
[16:07] <krytarik> Also, I have no particular idea yet how to include all the recent stuff in the commit message, or changelog even. :P
[16:07] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: Nope, I'm never dropping a link to you! :D
[16:07] <slickymasterWork> whatever
[16:07] * krytarik pats slickymasterWork
[16:08] <slickymasterWork> :P
[17:14] <flocculant> krytarik: ok - so with --fixes definitely don't want to use that
[17:14] <krytarik> flocculant: Umm, I don't get it.
[17:14] <flocculant> "And of course, I didn't do any *factual* changes," yes you did ^^
[17:14] <krytarik> Where?
[17:15] <flocculant> please leave that bzr line as I had it - thanks
[17:15] <krytarik> *Changes*.
[17:15] <flocculant> ^^
[17:15] <flocculant> other than that - the rest is fine with me once I'd fought my way through the pink and green :)
[17:16] <krytarik> Heh, alright.
[17:18] <krytarik> flocculant: So, you aren't fixing the bug you just reported with the changes you are doing?
[17:18] <flocculant> krytarik: there is a reason - pretty much pointless marking it Commited - nothing really happens to anything until someone physically edits the tracker side - at that point it's immediately fix released
[17:19] <krytarik> Alright - so for you, it's just not 'needed'.
[17:19] <flocculant> so all that marking them committed does is annoy me with pointless LP messages as I'm subscribed to it - as it's more or less me dealing with it
[17:19] <flocculant> krytarik: not interested in a discussion on it - please lose that change in my qa docs ;)
[17:22] <flocculant> but thanks for all the other bits and bobs - helps the readability :)
[17:22] <krytarik> \o/
[17:23] <flocculant> ha ha
[17:23] <flocculant> it's always useful for someone else to read things - you never 'read' what you wrote, you 'read' what you think you wrote :)
[17:24] <flocculant> krytarik: and ftr - nice to know about --fixes, just doesn't really do much more than spam mailboxes in this particular thing
[17:24] <krytarik> Well, you can read it, but extra work. :P
[17:25] <krytarik> So, I have 'bzr commit -m "Fix LP bug #BUGNO."' now - fine?
[17:26] <flocculant> no idea - if that's what it said before then yep :)
[17:28] <krytarik> Well, it says 'bzr commit -m "Change re bug#' right now.
[17:28] <flocculant> ok - happy with that newer wording :)
[17:29] <krytarik> \o/ again.
[17:29] <flocculant> it was the " those are the annoying cases where it doesn't figure out what really changed" which completely threw me :)
[17:30] <krytarik> Yeah, like I said, it's annoying. :D
[17:30] <flocculant> yep
[17:30] <krytarik> I might try and use a plain one the next time then. :P
[17:30] <flocculant> hah
[17:31] <flocculant> well others like it that way - so don't change on my behalf ;)
[17:31] <flocculant> I found that if I pretended to reply it sorted those things out
[17:34] <krytarik> Yeah, it kind of worked. :D
[17:37] <krytarik> Added the '--fixes' part to the Common Reference now instead.
[17:39] <flocculant> ok - that's probably useful stuff
[18:30] <flocculant> ochosi: jenkins is getting closer for the image tests
[18:47] <krytarik> flocculant: And sorry, I was more thinking there of how I'm mentioning the '--fixes' option in the MP part of the Common Reference - that was a factual change indeed.
[18:48] <flocculant> krytarik: yea understand that - but Common Reference isn't something I'm too bothered about :)
[18:48] <krytarik> You mean not? :D
[18:49] <krytarik> Oh wait, no. :P
[18:49] <flocculant> no - I mean what I said :D
[18:49] <flocculant> :)
[18:49] <flocculant> the QA pages isn't something I'm not too bothered about :D
[18:50] <krytarik> Hence I didn't think of having changed the command there, that is.
[18:50] <flocculant> :)
[18:50] <krytarik> hahaha
[18:52] <krytarik> flocculant: Noticed what I did with the <para>'s there though?
[18:52] <flocculant> ish
[18:53] <flocculant> no - not really
[18:53] <flocculant> if I was to be more honest :p
[18:54] <krytarik> That is, rather than enclosing lists and such, just end it where the current paragraph ends.
[18:54] <flocculant> yea sort of noticed
[18:55] <flocculant> but as I'm unlikely to be doing much more didn't do more than *shrug* don't know why that is :)
[18:56] <krytarik> It was fine on the other two pages though.
[19:40] <sidi> is there any known problem with the lock screen on Xubuntu Trusty? keeps tellng me "This session is locked, youll be redirected bla bla" on my Trusty VM after I unlock the session
[20:52] <knome> sidi, you should know better that this is no support channel
[21:56] <flocculant> ochosi: so is this a gtk3 fail? http://i.imgur.com/1KLCHmU.png
[21:57] <flocculant> guessing so - got some updates for it today
[21:58] <Unit193> Go to GTK3 they said, it'll be better they said...
[21:58] <flocculant> :)
[21:59] <flocculant> I'd report it if I knew which one out of thousands to report it against ...
[22:00] <flocculant> calc is awesome :p http://i.imgur.com/guBwH2V.png
[22:01] <krytarik> flocculant: How about 'gtk+3.0'?
[22:02] <Unit193> Unless, the theme...
[22:03] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/eWl3d8R.png
[22:03] <flocculant> calc in numix
[22:04] <flocculant> adwaita it's the same as greybird
[22:05] <flocculant> krytarik: can't ubuntu-bug gtk3.0
[22:06] <krytarik> flocculant: With the plus even?
[22:06] <flocculant> nope
[22:08] <pleia2> knome: if you have some time this afternoon, I'm around
[22:10] <knome> pleia2, "afternoon"?
[22:10] <flocculant> :)
[22:12] <pleia2> knome: well, whatever time it is right now :)
[22:13] <knome> just past midnight
[22:13] <knome> but i'm here
[22:13] <pleia2> what are we supposed to talk about?
[22:13] <knome> lol
[22:14] <knome> wait, i'll untangle my headphones first
[22:14] <knome> ok
[22:15] <knome> so, i guess the first thing is getting the contributor docs live/online
[22:15] <pleia2> ok
[22:15] <knome> they are in the docs branch
[22:15] <knome> we don't have a completely workflow yet for that
[22:15] * pleia2 updates local copy
[22:15] <knome> +ready
[22:15] <knome> but krytarik is working on some last fixes for some of the issues
[22:16] <knome> one question i have
[22:16] <knome> as they are in the same branch/package as the regular docs, they are "release-specific" - even if they aren't
[22:16] <pleia2> which branch?
[22:16] <knome> lp:xubuntu-docs
[22:16] <pleia2> i mean, not like wily/
[22:16] <knome> ^ that's xenial
[22:16] <knome> so the newest
[22:17] <pleia2> k
[22:17] <knome> the wily branch has outdated stuff already
[22:17] <knome> one of the cons of having them in the same branch
[22:17] <pleia2> yeah
[22:17] <knome> otoh, this way we can share the build stuff
[22:17] <knome> and stylesheets
[22:17] <knome> and everything docbook
[22:17] * pleia2 nods
[22:17] <knome> and only have to maintain one set of that
[22:17] <knome> so, the question:
[22:18] <knome> do we want to set up the online docs startpage so that we have a link, that we manually update, that points to the newest contributor docs?
[22:19] <pleia2> different from the index of docs.x.o itself?
[22:19] <knome> or - my preferred option - do we set up the Makefiles so that you can build the newest contributor docs directly in a subdirectory
[22:19] <knome> no, that thing
[22:19] <knome> my vision is that the contributor docs would be at http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/
[22:19] <knome> but obviously feel free to disagree
[22:19] <knome> maybe if we have more stuff coming for developers, we could consider another location too
[22:19] <pleia2> so, speaking to my own process, whenever I build docs I do it locally (build tools are local, not on the webserver) and then upload what I need
[22:20] <knome> ok
[22:20] <pleia2> so as long as I have instructions about how to build and what to upload, I don't really mind where we put things
[22:20] <knome> well, actually
[22:20] <knome> one option is this:
[22:20] <knome> set up another subdomain, like contributors.xubuntu.org (or whatever), host it on the same server as the tracker
[22:20] <knome> then the maintaining burden can be shared
[22:21] <pleia2> I think docs.x.o makes more sense
[22:21] <knome> yeah
[22:21] <knome> in that case, on the building quickly:
[22:21] <knome> "make"
[22:21] <pleia2> :)
[22:21] <knome> then see build/contributor-docs
[22:22] <pleia2> so, just what I do for the regular docs
[22:22] <knome> that's currently skewed - we need the stuff from krytarik before we are ready to "just do it"
[22:22] <knome> basically so
[22:22] <knome> the main change we are making is that both of the docs have the same depth
[22:22] <pleia2> right
[22:22] <knome> so that ../../libs-common is always the same place
[22:23] <knome> this helps us build the contributor docs in the shipped package too
[22:23] <knome> but that's kind of minutiae
[22:23] <knome> once krytarik has done the merge proposal, and the stuff is merged, we'd like an initial push ASAP
[22:23] <knome> so we can start ripping the wiki stuff down
[22:24] <knome> and make the website more user-oriented again (and just link to this documentation)
[22:24] <pleia2> I'm home through Tuesday of next week (fly out for the holiday on Wednesday), back on Nov 30
[22:25] <knome> we should have it up by then
[22:25] <knome> that is, tuesday
[22:25] <pleia2> ok, just lmk and I'll make time :)
[22:25] <knome> related: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/DeveloperDocumentation
[22:25] <knome> basically, i'm trying to make most of the wiki useless :P
[22:25] <knome> not all, but most of it
[22:26] <knome> i've even ACK'd moving the strategy document there by simon
[22:26] <pleia2> reminds me, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official#Xubuntu
[22:26] <knome> then we can have history and sensible diff's
[22:26] <pleia2> link should be updated
[22:26] <knome> i'll do that
[22:26] <pleia2> thanks
[22:26] <knome> so, anything else on this subject?
[22:27] <pleia2> DD wiki page lgtm
[22:27] <pleia2> I think that's it
[22:27] <knome> great, we'll poke you when we need an upload
[22:27] <pleia2> perfect
[22:27] <knome> so the other thing is basically "plan/set up blueprints for community/marketing/website"
[22:28] <knome> and i guess we could talk about that sticker giveaway idea for twitter
[22:28] <knome> and get it done
[22:28] * pleia2 nods
[22:28] <knome> and with that, other potential social media campaigns
[22:29] <knome> could be nice to do one giveaway for every biggish outlet
[22:29] <pleia2> outlet, social media platform?
[22:29] <knome> yeah
[22:29] <knome> shorter
[22:29] <knome> <- lazy
[22:29] <pleia2> hehe
[22:29] <pleia2> yeah, would be nice to do stuff for the lts
[22:29] <knome> maybe G+, twitter, fb
[22:30] <knome> so the question is:
[22:30] <pleia2> right
[22:30] <knome> what do we do with the xubuntu memories or whatever we ask
[22:30] <pleia2> or #loveXubuntu
[22:30] <knome> it could be with that
[22:30] <pleia2> I'm inclined to collect our favorites in a series of blog posts
[22:31] <knome> yes, something like that
[22:31] <pleia2> I'd also like to collect a bunch of favorites, and then do a random drawing of which gets a prize
[22:31] <knome> but we need an approval from the participants
[22:31] <pleia2> to share?
[22:31] <knome> well at least from those who "win"
[22:31] * pleia2 nods
[22:31] <knome> yeah
[22:31] <knome> i'd think it would be fair
[22:32] <knome> also,
[22:32] <knome> if we do this, just collect any ones that we might want to use
[22:32] <pleia2> we can just request that they write "CC BY-SA" on whatever they submit
[22:32] <knome> and ask for permission to use in "any marketing for xubuntu"
[22:32] <knome> so we can use them later
[22:32] <pleia2> otherwise it's not eligible
[22:32] <knome> without the need to ask/collect again
[22:32] <knome> i'm thinking flyers too
[22:32] <pleia2> yeah, that's why a license is nice
[22:32] <knome> yes, wfm
[22:33] <knome> so, should this be a blog article after all?
[22:33] <pleia2> which bit? :)
[22:33] <knome> the "competition" info
[22:33] <knome> tell what we do, ask for the CC bit, etc.
[22:33] <pleia2> yeah, probably
[22:33] <knome> we should probably also mention which platforms we are looking at
[22:34] <knome> and if we take submissions via email
[22:34] <knome> (and in which list/address)
[22:34] <pleia2> my inclination is to ignore facebook because it's so closed
[22:34] <pleia2> you can view tweets and g+ things without logging in, not so with facebook
[22:34] <knome> yeah...
[22:34] <knome> http://pad.ubuntu.com/lovexubuntu
[22:34] <knome> let's try to get something there
[22:35] <pleia2> ok
[22:35] <pleia2> hee, look at all that content so far
[22:35] <knome> well... i just created it
[22:35] <knome> we have some old pad with some content
[22:35] <pleia2> yeah, I thought we did
[22:35] <knome> i'll try to find that next
[22:35] <pleia2> I have it, sec
[22:36] * pleia2 lies
[22:37] <knome> i have it
[22:37] <knome> http://pad.ubuntu.com/Nl1LbS6DqL
[22:37] <knome> i'm copying that over
[22:37] <knome> sec
[22:37] <pleia2> great name
[22:37] <pleia2> :D
[22:37] <knome> done
[22:37] <pleia2> thanks
[22:37] <knome> yes, isn't it
[22:38] <pleia2> ok, I need to reprocess this, I'll work to add notes over the next few days
[22:38] <pleia2> but lets add doing this to our blueprint
[22:38] * pleia2 pulls up
[22:39] <knome> yeah, i'm quickly trying to add the things we just talked about so there's something to build on
[22:40] <knome> yeah...
[22:40] <knome> now, talking about BP's
[22:41] <knome> is there something else we want to set up for 16.04?
[22:42] <pleia2> flyer, lovexubuntu and continuing "xubuntu at" may be enough
[22:42] <knome> kind of related, how do *you* feel about a wallpaper contest?
[22:43] <pleia2> oh, we should do one
[22:43] <knome> ok
[22:43] <knome> i should write mail about it
[22:43] <pleia2> we learned some things from last time
[22:43] <knome> but laaazyyy
[22:43] <pleia2> should recommend resolution, license
[22:43] <knome> we remembered license
[22:43] <knome> but people...
[22:43] <pleia2> we collected on a wiki page last time, right?
[22:43] <knome> yes
[22:43] <pleia2> that was kind of awful
[22:43] <pleia2> ubuntu uses flickr
[22:44] <knome> and we kind of recommended resolution too, at least we had a minimum
[22:44] <knome> but people..
[22:44] <pleia2> heh, right
[22:44] <knome> bluesabre said he'd look at creating a tool for us
[22:44] <pleia2> even better :)
[22:44] <knome> so, since you are our legal expert
[22:45] <pleia2> that's a frightening statement
[22:45] <pleia2> :)
[22:46] <knome> if a form says with BIG RED letters
[22:46] <pleia2> that's purple
[22:46] <knome> whatever
[22:46] <pleia2> hehe
[22:46] <knome> that if you submit, you submit with a certain license
[22:46] <knome> is that good enough?
[22:46] <pleia2> I radio button would be better, even if it's default selected what we want
[22:47] <knome> because surely bluesabre can make the tool autocheck the resolution
[22:47] <knome> radio button with what alternatives?
[22:48] <pleia2> or maybe just a checkbox saying they agree to our TOS
[22:48] <knome> yeah
[22:48] <pleia2> which is... agreeing to the license
[22:48] <knome> hehe
[22:48] <knome> and no titties
[22:48] <knome> :|
[22:48] <pleia2> agree to license, abide by CoC
[22:48] <knome> yes
[22:48] <knome> whatever terms we had the last time
[22:48] <pleia2> we can work on the language for that
[22:48] <pleia2> yeah
[22:48] <knome> sounds good
[22:49] <knome> do we want to work with this:
[22:49] <knome> [xubuntu-website] Community fund funded hosting for the development area: TODO
[22:49] <pleia2> that just made my brain explode
[22:49] <knome> sorry :(
[22:49] <pleia2> what's the development area?
[22:50] <knome> currently, the tracker
[22:50] <knome> and i would like to set up a wiki too...
[22:50] <pleia2> ah yes, I hate wiki
[22:50] <pleia2> hehe
[22:50] <pleia2> (hosting them)
[22:50] <knome> heh
[22:51] <Unit193> doku isn't so bad if you need smaller.
[22:51] <knome> yeah, i was trying to remember the name
[22:51] <pleia2> upgrade management, spam/user authentication handling, it sucks
[22:51] <knome> i would most likely go with dokuwiki, it's relatively easy to maintain
[22:51] <Unit193> Sean and I both use it.
[22:51] <knome> and i've used it
[22:52] <knome> we could probably look at having multiple admins for the server
[22:52] <knome> virtual, likely
[22:52] <pleia2> definitely
[22:52] <knome> so it wouldn't be that bad
[22:52] <knome> bluesabre already needs to handle dokuwiki updates
[22:52] <knome> and Unit193 already pokes him about them
[22:52] <knome> soooo...
[22:52] <bluesabre> oh
[22:52] <bluesabre> is there another update?
[22:52] <bluesabre> :o
[22:52] <knome> i don't know
[22:53] <bluesabre> :D
[22:53] <knome> we're talking about setting one for xubuntu
[22:53] <bluesabre> gotcha
[22:53] <bluesabre> dokuwiki is nice
[22:53] <knome> i'm also familiar enough with the theming so i could probably set up a sensible xubuntu-specific theme relatively quickly
[22:53] <bluesabre> No update notification, phew
[22:54] <knome> but i don't want to push people to do things they don't want
[22:54] <knome> so if it isn't realistic to have time/motivation for that, then we just postpone
[22:54] <knome> or rethink stuff
[22:54] <knome> the ubuntu wiki has been horrible lately :(
[22:54] <Unit193> bluesabre: No you're good.
[22:55] <knome> previously it has been just everybody else that has had problems with it
[22:55] <knome> now i've been in problems too
[22:55] <knome> brb
[22:56] <pleia2> anyway, that action item sounds fine, I'm ok with being lead sysadmin on such a server as long as I have help with the service specific things
[22:57] <knome> totally
[22:57] <knome> and ideally, we'd move docs. and static. there too
[22:58] <knome> so you would have less work in keeping them updated
[22:58] <pleia2> ++
[22:58] <pleia2> having me not the only one with access would be great
[22:58] <knome> (and it would all be smoother, the doc team could poke whichever admin is available)
[22:58] <knome> and with a virtual server, we can probably dump some scripts server side
[22:59] * knome hides from pleia2 and the rolling pin
[22:59] <pleia2> well, we could install all the doc build tools, as long as they'll work on the lts
[22:59] <knome> they should
[22:59] <knome> and will, really
[23:00] <knome> i can preliminary volunteer on taking care of some of the social side
[23:00] <pleia2> https://www.linode.com/pricing is my recommendation
[23:00] <pleia2> probably the 2G one if we're running a wiki
[23:00] <knome> mhm
[23:00] <pleia2> but 1G is probably ok too, I've not done doku
[23:00] <knome> though note that it's low-use
[23:00] <knome> doku is very light
[23:01] <pleia2> what is it written in?
[23:01] <knome> and really, we won't have more than a few dozen pages
[23:01] <pleia2> yeah
[23:01] <knome> guess?
[23:01] <Unit193> pleia2: You mean you're not on the DO bandwagon?
[23:01] <pleia2> Unit193: DO?
[23:02] <Unit193> DigitalOcean.
[23:02] <pleia2> knome: ah, php
[23:02] <knome> pleia2, yeah :)
[23:02] <pleia2> Unit193: heh, no
[23:02] <knome> i'm ok with *any* hosting
[23:02] <pleia2> Unit193: if they're more stable now, that's fine too
[23:02] <knome> i *really* couldn't care less :]
[23:02] <Unit193> pleia2: From what I hear they are better, but yeah.
[23:02] <knome> well that is, as long as it works etc...
[23:02] <knome> but no clicks for/against any provider
[23:03] <pleia2> could also approach my buddy at gandi to see if they want to give us one
[23:03] <knome> \o/
[23:03] <pleia2> actually, let me email her right now
[23:03] <knome> as long as that doesn't mean 1000x600 ads on every page ;))
[23:03] <knome> woohoo
[23:03] <Unit193> So you're going with Gentoo right?
[23:04] <pleia2> knome: can you add the item to the blueprint?
[23:04] <knome> which exactly?
[23:04] <knome> the one i pasted is *on* the blueprint
[23:04] <knome> it was carried on from W
[23:04] <pleia2> nm, it's there
[23:04] <pleia2> yeah :)
[23:04] <knome> haha
[23:04] <knome> yep
[23:04] <knome> we can split it up when we have a clearer idea of smaller actionable items
[23:06] <pleia2> opposed to a text footer on pages saying it's hosted by gandi?
[23:06] <pleia2> (it's ok to say yes)
[23:06] <knome> it's not ideal, and i would personally say no, but we should consult simon too
[23:07] <knome> i mean, when i say "no", i mean "yes" to opposing
[23:07] * knome sighs
[23:07] <knome> but "no" for the ads...
[23:08] <knome> also, that would likely mean we'd need to change stuff
[23:08] <pleia2> right
[23:08] <knome> think: add the footer note in the docs source
[23:08] <knome> which is a bit icky
[23:09] <knome> pleia2, oh, another thing to talk about: saw the -contacts mail?
[23:10] <pleia2> gabor?
[23:10] <knome> yes
[23:10] <pleia2> yeah, I think it's a fine idea
[23:10] <knome> ok, then i'll approve the message and reply him telling that
[23:10] <pleia2> hanks
[23:10] <pleia2> thanks too
[23:11] <knome> t. hanks
[23:11] <knome> (^tom)
[23:11] <pleia2> har
[23:13] <pleia2> ok, request has been emailed
[23:18] <knome> ok, replied to gabor (and CC list)
[23:18] <pleia2> ty
[23:19] <knome> so... anything else for the blueprints?
[23:20] <knome> any improvements you would like to see re: the release pages on the website?
[23:20] <pleia2> I'm good
[23:20] <knome> hmm, am i not autoapproved
[23:20] <knome> sigh
[23:20] <pleia2> hee
[23:20] <knome> i am
[23:20] <knome> the list just sends the email anyway
[23:23] <knome> i guess i'm done then with stuff for now :)
[23:23] <knome> thanks
[23:23] <pleia2> thanks ;)
[23:24] <knome> updated the artwork wikipage
[23:24] <pleia2> cool
[23:25] <knome> oh heh, i've broken the resources page
[23:25] <pleia2> gg
[23:25] <knome> will go fix that next
[23:27] <knome> aaand done
[23:32] <knome> alexkuck, hello
[23:33] <alexkuck> knome: hello. how are you ?
[23:33] <knome> i'm fine
[23:33] <knome> looking for something? :)
[23:34] <alexkuck> nope ! i am just a silent lurker..
[23:34] <knome> aha ;)
[23:34] <alexkuck> (a proud user of xubuntu for a couple years)
[23:35] <knome> we can alwaus use a pair of helping hands if you ever decide that you want to help :)
[23:36] <knome> ^ as you can see, we totally need help with typing :P
[23:36] <pleia2> hehe
[23:46] <alexkuck> knome: i've never been involved with operating system dev. what would be some initial opportunities ?
[23:46] <knome> alexkuck, testing the development release, for example
[23:46] <knome> and/or new software versions
[23:47] <alexkuck> is there a formal test process ? or just report what breaks during normal usage?
[23:47] <knome> it's described in http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa
[23:48] <knome> but we're also planning a session for people interested in testing in this channel
[23:48] <knome> let me dig up the link..
[23:48] <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-November/010966.html <- there
[23:48] <knome> OR you could just ask flocculant for details :)
[23:48] <knome> but long story short - both
[23:49] <knome> we specifically need to do certain tests with new ISOs to make sure xubuntu is installable
[23:49] <alexkuck> fantastic !
[23:49] <knome> and tbe, many more people on this channel can answer questions
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-nl
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[16:20] <eyhajee> hallo
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.053363
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:32] <cmaloney> Yeah, it has
[00:32] <cmaloney> And Friday I'm getting the CD / DVD set
[00:32] <cmaloney> jcastro: ^^
[13:10] <rick_h_> morning
[13:40] <cmaloney> morning
[13:41] <cmaloney> We're getting new phones at work so I need to get my work-day in before 4pm. ;)
[13:41] <cmaloney> otherwise my network connection to my desktop machine goes *poof*
[13:42] <rick_h_> lol
[14:11] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Yeah, and the sad thing is they're still connecting that way with the new phones.
[16:04] <rick_h_> cmaloney: nothing like networking via overpriced phones
[16:05] <greg-g> because... vpn?
[16:08] <cmaloney> greg-g: We're moving to a new hosted phone solution via XO
[16:09] <cmaloney> our previous system was Siemens
[16:09] <cmaloney> Siemens had what could be considered the worst phone menu system for voice mail access
[16:10] <cmaloney> XO at least has a portal for doing complicated shit
[16:12] <greg-g> but, a phone... like, you use them?
[16:18] <cmaloney> greg-g: I don't but there are folks that live by the phone
[16:18] * greg-g nods
[16:22] <cmaloney> Personally if my phone disappeared tomorrow I couldn't care less.
[16:22] <cmaloney> Well, actually it will disappear later today
[16:22] <cmaloney> ;)
[16:24] <greg-g> :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.059959
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2015-11-20-#ubuntu-pt
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[04:04] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:39] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.060625
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-ir
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[17:33] <Hibye> سلام
[17:33] <Hibye> کسی هست؟
[19:33] <javan> salam man egdamat lazam gahate estefadeh az 4g ro anjam dadam vali vasl nemishe lotfan komak konid ta vasl beshe
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.067016
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-se
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[07:09] <Hund> Barre: Lämna tillbaka alla användare nu, det är lite väl tyst i den här kanalen.
[07:12] <recharge> åh, så det är folk som är vakna? :P
[07:14] <Hund> recharge: Vaken är vi allt. Frågan är ju varför alla undviker den här kanalen. :P
[19:12] <blippe> woooooo!!
[21:39] <Amoz> Hund, voff
[21:45] <Hund> :D
[21:45] <Hund> Amoz: ^
[21:45] <Amoz> x)
[21:46] <Hund> Eller jag kanske borde ha sagt "Mjau". :P
[21:46] <Amoz> jaop
[21:48] <Amoz> raspberrypi2 är ganska slö att kompilera med O_O
[21:55] <Hund> Kan tänka mig det. :P
[21:55] <Hund> Nu lär jag stänga ner. Kommer hantverkare imorgon och ska böka här...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.071424
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-uos-cloud
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[18:03] <wililupy> Can't see the slides...
[18:03] <wililupy> There we go.
[18:08] <stokachu> Docs: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/clouddocs/installer/, Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenStack/Installer, IRC: #ubuntu-server
[18:13] <stokachu> Autopilot is free with 10 bare metal and 10 virtual
[18:13] <stokachu> Plenty for a small private cloud
[18:38] <jgrimm> Any Questions?
[18:39] <jgrimm> mmcc #ubuntu-solutions
[18:39] <stokachu> <- adam stokes
[18:39] <jgrimm> stokachu #ubuntu-solutions
[19:43] <jgrimm> 15 minutes left in session, if folks want to tee up any questions for Blake
[19:48] <jgrimm> thanks blake_r!
[19:49] <blake_r> jgrimm: np
[19:49] <jgrimm> session is over, but if you have further questions about maas 1.9 or maas in general talke to blake_r
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.074281
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[02:58] <nhaines> pleia2: I'm glad you made it home. :)
[03:18] <pleia2> nhaines: thanks :)
[03:18] <nhaines> I donated a copy of my book to the library for consideration, and they accepted it and are putting it into their circulation!
[03:19] <pleia2> nice! congrats
[03:25] <jbermudes> nhaines: Which library?
[03:29] <nhaines> Mission Viejo Library.
[03:29] <nhaines> I'll tackle Orange County Public Library system tomorrow.
[03:30] <nhaines> MVPL said it might take 3 weeks to hear back but they called about 45 minutes later. So I went back and signed it.
[03:30] <akk> \o/
[03:30] <nhaines> Two of the librarians had heard of Ubuntu before, but they only have one or two books about it there.
[04:19] <jbermudes> I'm trying to figure out if my copy would be more useful at the LUG's library or at the LA library
[04:22] <nhaines> If SGVLUG has a library I'll donate a copy.
[04:27] <jbermudes> I mean, we have a bookshelf at one of the member's workshops that we have our hardware SIG meetings at and people are generally free to borrow those books for reasonable periods of time, but it's not formal
[04:33] <nhaines> Yup, that's how it works for OCLUG too.
[06:02] <nhaines> pleia2: sabdfl replied to you on G+! Now you're e-famous!
[14:22] <nhaines> The Ubuntu Online Summit is currently ongoing. Mark Shuttleworth is giving the opening keynote now. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22614/mark-shuttleworth-uos-opening-keynote/
[14:22] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Online Summit Intro and Mark Shuttleworth's Opening Keynote - | The Summit Scheduler]
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.077357
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-ru
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[00:04] <andrex> svetlana: сам искал чето подобное, даже не знаю чем помочь
[00:08] <andrex> не хотяя я искал ваще чтобы прям создал директорию и в нее накидал чето а она уже в цмсине отобразилась как мне надо) я еще больший леньтяй
[00:30] <svetlana> это Ikiwiki делает нормально. просто этих самых атрибутов-то и нету.
[03:07] <buriedalive> Здравствуйте.
[03:28] <svetlana> здравствуй
[07:29] <andrex> эх не успел на работу прийти а завтра отдыхной(
[07:30] <andrex> скукатня
[08:18] <tagezi> утра всем
[08:31] <Leagnus> да, доброе
[08:34] <andrex> чейто оно доброе?
[08:35] <andrex> злое утро не хорошее я спатьки хотеть(
[08:44] <tagezi> andrex: в Серёгу превращаешься :)
[08:46] <jastinog> всем привет :)
[08:56] <andrex> да я всегда таким был)
[08:56] <andrex> с рождения
[08:57] <tagezi> не долгая была радость у родителей, что ребёнок родился и сразу заговорил )))
[09:07] <andrex> да матюгами
[10:36] <artemz> всем привет
[10:37] <tagezi> ку
[10:38] <vamadir> re
[10:38] <jastinog> привет
[10:41] <TheDemonium> yo
[10:42] <SergeyIT> ой
[10:42] <TheDemonium> а понимаю что не в топик
[10:43] <TheDemonium> кто заббик хорошо умеет?
[10:43] <TheDemonium> zabbix
[11:12] <artemz> TheDemonium: я кое-что умею. а что
[11:43] * TheDemonium потыкал в artemz
[12:24] <VarIzo> test
[12:24] <ubuntuhelp> VarIzo, Понг.
[12:32] <VarIzo> clear
[13:16] <vamadir> дано pppoe+vpn. как отправить torrent трафик только через pppoe??
[13:16] <vamadir> чтобы торрент не жрал vpn
[14:16] <Jastinog> 1
[18:48] <wl8dr3_> Всем привет!
[18:50] <wl8dr3_> !help
[18:50] <ubuntuhelp> Привет, я любимый инфобот канала #ubuntu-ru, Как меня использовать? Просто напишите: ![ls/mc/man/fdisk] или ![ATI/nVidia/etc] вот так. Внимание, чтобы не залететь в игнор/бан, используйте ПРИВАТ и !search [ATI/nVidia/etc] см: http://ubuntuhelp.org.ru/
[20:27] <itanium> пр
[20:49] <itanium> t
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.093845
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-il
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[09:09] <vlad_____> hi
[09:09] <vlad_____> i am gay
[09:09] <vlad_____> there is someone gay here?
[09:09] <vlad_____> jion
[09:09] <vlad_____> join
[09:09] <vlad_____> _/\_ _/\_ @(o.0)@ @(0.o)@ o---| |---o o---|UU|---o ,,,,, | | | | @(o.o)@ | ::::::::::::D | (|) | o--| |--o | | + | | = | | /\ /\
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.096626
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-us-md
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[00:55] <ron__> hello
[00:58] <ron__> Ubuntu Online Summit starts tomorrow http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/
[01:01] <ron__> Please say hello when you join us
[01:05] <ron__> I have posted a link to Ubuntu Online Summit which starts tomorrow and runs through Thur
[01:06] <ron__> There are some very interesting topics to include App Development for mobile,
[01:07] <ron__> Cloud services and python programming.
[01:08] <ron__> It is of course free to participate but you will need a launchpad account
[01:11] <ron__> Mark Shutterworth's opening keynote kicks it off
[01:12] <ron__> at 14:00 UTC which is 9 am our time
[01:13] <ron__> Dan are you still online
[01:14] <ron__> Thanks for joining us
[01:15] <ron__> Please see my comments about the Ubuntu summit that starts tomorrow
[01:15] <ron__> Any comments
[01:19] <ron__> questions?
[01:20] <ron__> If there are no comments or questions I will end the session
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.099101
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-it
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[05:56] <vind76> ciao
[05:56] <vind76> mi puoi ridire wiki broadcom b43 senza connessione
[08:09] <Guest76089> scusate il disturbo, ho un problema con un monitor in ubuntu
[08:09] <Guest76089> chi mi puo' aiutare?
[08:10] <Guest76089> e' pallidissimo, in window funziona, in ubuntu no
[08:10] <Guest76089> ho l driver, ma esiste solo per window
[08:10] <Guest76089> ome posso fare
[08:11] <Guest76089> si puo' installare l driver window in ubuntu?
[08:13] <ExPBoy> che monitor è? e che ubuntu usi?
[08:15] <Guest76089> ubunti 14
[08:16] <Guest76089> il montor e' samsung S19B300
[08:16] <Guest76089> sono in possesso del driver
[08:16] <Guest76089> ma solo per wndow
[08:17] <Guest76089> l problema di ubuntu e mint e' proprio questo, non riconoscono niente.....
[08:17] <Guest76089> dovro' cambiare pc
[08:17] <Guest76089> prenderne uno nuovo con su window
[08:17] <Guest76089> almeno funziona
[08:17] <Guest76089> c'e' piu' soddisfazione in ubuntu, ma poi nascono tanti problemi
[08:17] <Guest76089> impossibile da rsolvere
[08:18] <ExPBoy> Guest76089, hai provato a vedere se sul sito della samsung c'è il driver per linux?
[08:18] <Guest76089> si ho provato, solo per window.......
[08:19] <Guest76089> pazienza
[08:19] <Guest76089> ormai sono mes che cerco e provo
[08:19] <Guest76089> nulla da fare
[08:19] <Guest76089> e nessuno sa nienete......
[08:20] <Guest76089> niente
[08:20] <Guest76089> a meno di essere grandi esperti......ma purtroppo io non lo sono
[08:21] <ExPBoy> ma hai provato con i vari driver disponibili in linux?
[08:21] <ExPBoy> che scheda video hai?
[08:21] <Guest76089> come faccio a vedere? e' un computer vecchiotto
[08:21] <ExPBoy> eh
[08:21] <Guest76089> GT 218 GE FORCE 210
[08:23] <Guest76089> e' vecchio, con ubuntu andrebbe anche bene, ma il monitor e' impossible da guardare
[08:26] <Guest76089> ho capito che ubuntu e' come una bella automobile
[08:26] <Guest76089> ma se poi c'e' un problema devi essere un bravo meccanico
[08:26] <Guest76089> se no non va
[08:26] <Guest76089> pazienza
[08:27] <Guest76089> ciao a tutti
[08:28] <Guest76089> in ubuntu tutti sono esperti, ma poi nessuno sa aiutarmi nel mio pronblema
[08:28] <glpiana> Guest76089, che problema?
[08:28] <Guest76089> ho ubuntu 14
[08:28] <Guest76089> un monitor samsung non rconoscuto e illeggible
[08:29] <Guest76089> ho il driver window
[08:29] <Guest76089> ma non per linux, non esiste
[08:29] <Guest76089> come fare?
[08:29] <glpiana> Guest76089, non serve a nulla il driver windows su ubuntu. che scheda video hai?
[08:29] <Guest76089> con window il monitor e' bello
[08:29] <Guest76089> GT 218 GE FORCE 210
[08:30] <glpiana> Guest76089, nvidia?
[08:30] <Guest76089> si nvdia
[08:30] <glpiana> Guest76089, esci in vga o hdmi?
[08:31] <Guest76089> il gestore d driver di ubuntu mi dice che e' installato il driver raccomandato......
[08:31] <Guest76089> non so osa significa vga o hdmi
[08:31] <Guest76089> non sono un esperto, purtroppo
[08:31] <glpiana> Guest76089, il cavo con cui colleghi il monitor al pc che cavo è?
[08:32] <Guest76089> a questo punto sono morto stecchito
[08:32] <Guest76089> penso sia normale
[08:33] <glpiana> Guest76089, ha i terminali blu o bianchi?
[08:33] <Guest76089> non c'e' scritto nielnte
[08:33] <Guest76089> la spina e' blu
[08:33] <glpiana> apri un terminale e scrivi: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[08:33] <glpiana> !paste | Guest76089
[08:33] <ubot-it> Guest76089: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[08:35] <Guest76089> troppo arduo..............grazie los tesso
[08:37] <Guest76089> purtroppo dovro' cambiare pc. con window 10 non volevo farlo perche' ubuntu mi piace
[08:37] <Guest76089> ma non c'e' nulla da fare
[08:37] <Guest76089> ma window riconosce tutto da solo
[08:38] <Guest76089> ciao a tutti
[11:27] <molly7> buongiorno a tutti. ho una wacom intuos pen & touch e finalmente dopo aver aggiornato a ubuntu 14.04 gnome la riconosce anche su gimp
[11:28] <molly7> purtroppo non posso scaricare su ubuntu i programmi gratuiti compresi con l'acquisto della tavoletta, mentre su win7 me li ha fatti scaricare
[11:29] <molly7> mi interessano i programmi che sarebbero miei di diritto: artrage studio 3.5, Autodesk Sketchbook Express,
[11:29] <molly7> Wacom sign pro PDF Windows 7 Trial, Wacom sign pro PDF Windows 8 Trial
[11:30] <molly7> soprattutto il primo e il secondo
[11:30] <molly7> se qualcuno potesse aiutarmi gliene sarei molto grata
[11:30] <molly7> grazie, attendo vostre
[11:37] <molly7> help
[12:01] <zio111> ciao a tutti, ho un problema con l'installazione di xubuntu 14.04 32 bit. La versione live funziona bene, ma dopo l'installazione all'avvio il display è prima nero con degli artefatti bianchi e successivamente solo bianco e non riesco a visualizzare nulla. Credo sia un problema di driver video. La scheda è Intel
[12:02] <zio111> mi soprende che invece la Live vada senza errori. Qualcuno ha qualche consiglio da darmi? Grazie mille.
[12:14] <mollysara> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13091042/
[12:16] <Carlin0> mollysara, se vuoi usare programmi per win basta che usi win
[12:17] <mollysara> grazie lo so. chiedevo se qualcuno li conosce, soprattutto i primi due, per capire se esista una versione utilizzabile su ubuntu
[12:18] <mollysara> non voglio usare win
[12:18] <Carlin0> mollysara, e a cosa servono sti programmi ?
[12:18] <mollysara> a disegnare, a ritoccare foto, a dipingere
[12:19] <Carlin0> gimp
[12:19] <Carlin0> !programmi | mollysara
[12:19] <ubot-it> mollysara: Per una lista di programmi disponibili per Ubuntu consulta http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Programmi
[12:19] <mollysara> ce l'ho. ma visto che nell'acquisto della tavoletta mi hanno messo anche questi programmi, volevo usarli sul mio ubuntu anzichè su quella chiavica di win
[12:20] <Carlin0> i programmi per win vanno su win
[12:21] <mollysara> si, ok ma i primi due hanno anche versioni che ne so per mac o altro, volevo solo sapere se c'era un modo per usarli niente, come non detto grazie
[12:30] <omega24> Ciao, ho un problema ad installare ubuntu..ho un samsung np300e5c con windows 8 preinstallato, ho scaricato ubuntu e disattivato il secure boot ma quando inserisco il cd il mio computer lo ignora totalmente e mi ricompare la scheramta iniziale di windows 8
[12:30] <omega24> come posso fare? grazie
[12:32] <Carlin0> omega24, hai settato il boot da cd ?
[12:33] <Carlin0> aveva fretta
[13:13] <diamorf> ciao
[13:14] <diamorf> qualcuno può rispondermi il perchè gparted non si apre?
[13:29] <Uzzi> Laptop Mode Tools o TLP chi mi saprebbe dare un consiglio?
[13:57] <coachcaba> salve
[13:57] <ERed> Ciao a tutti! Scusate il disturbo, ma ho appena installato ubuntu 14.04 lts sul mio PC e ho riscontrato un grave problema, nessun accesso a internet, non vedo neanche l'icona del Wi-Fi sulla barra notifiche. Quando cercò di aprire network nei system settings mi da come errore "the system network services are not compatibile with this version". Su
[13:57] <ERed> ppongo manchino dei driver, ma senza internet non so come/dove/quali scaricare. Grazie
[13:58] <ERed> ... Per l'aiuto!
[14:24] <nananona> ciao a tutti qualcuno sa se qualche versione di itunes riesce a girare su ubuntu?
[14:30] <nananona> ciao a tutti qualcuno sa se qualche versione di itunes riesce a girare su ubuntu?
[14:58] <Gioele98> Ragazzi sto cercando di installare zoneminder su ubuntu desktop 14.04lts, qualcuno saprebbe darmi una mano?
[15:15] <massimo57> Salve. Non riesco a stampare quando il pc è in ubunto. Per stampare debbo passare a Win (che ci mette 8 ore per darmi l'ok!!!).
[15:16] <massimo57> Ho caricato la stampante in Ubuntu (una brother 7360N) ma quando mando in stampa non accade nulla!
[15:18] <cristian_c> massimo57: la stampante è riconosciuta dal sistema?
[15:18] <cristian_c> massimo57: come l'hai configurata
[15:19] <massimo57> ...l'ho collegata e l'ha riconosciuta...
[15:19] <massimo57> :(
[15:19] <massimo57> ....debbo fare qualche altra cosa?
[15:25] <cristian_c> massimo57: hai fatto anche una stampa di prova?
[15:25] <cristian_c> non relativa al documento che vuoi stampare, ma proprio una stampa di prova
[15:35] <massimo57> no....
[15:36] <massimo57> E comunque... in che senso di prova?
[15:36] <cristian_c> massimo57: dall finestra stampanti, seleziona col destro Proprietà
[15:36] <cristian_c> e nella finestra delle Proprietà fai clic su 'stampa pagina di prova'
[15:37] <massimo57> ho visto.
[15:37] <massimo57> Vado!
[15:37] <massimo57> (il portatile si trova in un'altra stanza!!!)
[15:56] <nananona> ciao a tutti qualcuno sa se qualche versione di itunes riesce a girare su ubuntu?
[15:57] <stopbullismo> salve qualcuno sa se si può usare app apple su ubuntu?
[16:00] <cybernova> stopbullismo, specifica quali
[16:00] <stopbullismo> BoinxTV
[16:01] <cybernova> stopbullismo, no, non c'è per linux
[16:01] <cristian_c> stopbullismo: ti senti minacciato da qualcuno o qualcosa?
[16:01] <cristian_c> come il tuo nick lascia pensare
[16:02] <stopbullismo> no faccio parte di un sito intenet contro il bullismo
[16:02] <cristian_c> ottimo
[16:02] <stopbullismo> sono loggato con account admin della chat del sito
[16:03] <stopbullismo> :)
[16:03] <cristian_c> nananona: itunes non è sviluppato per linux
[16:04] <cristian_c> ma solo per windows o mac os x
[16:04] <stopbullismo> lo so che non c'e' per linux, esite solo x apple os x, chiedevo se esiste app ubuntu per far girare su ubuntu
[16:04] <cristian_c> nananona: quindi o lo usi in macchina virtuale, o fai il boot direttamente in windows o ,ac os x, per utilizzarlo
[16:04] <stopbullismo> avevo letto di un app ubuntu che permette installazioni di app native apple os x
[16:06] <nananona> cristian che vorrebbe dire lo uso in macchina virtuale?
[16:06] <nananona> perchè in questo pc non ho windowsD:
[16:06] <stopbullismo> nananona vmware o virtual box
[16:07] <nananona> sono dei programmi da installare?
[16:07] <stopbullismo> nananona si
[16:07] <stopbullismo> 1 xrò no tutti e 2
[16:08] <Carlin0> !italiano | stopbullismo
[16:08] <ubot-it> stopbullismo: scrivere in maniera corretta facilita la lettura dei messaggi: frasi contenenti abbreviazioni, spesso chiare soltanto a chi le scrive, sono di difficile interpretazione. Ti invitiamo pertanto a non usarle. Vedi http://tinyurl.com/35d9kcn
[16:08] <nananona> ok grazie:) e sai se con uno dei due posso collegarci l ipod e ripristinarlo?
[16:08] <cristian_c> nananona: male
[16:08] <stopbullismo> nananona certo
[16:09] <cristian_c> nananona: se sei nell'ottica di utilizzare programmi esclusivamente per windows, cancellarlo non è stata evidentemente una buona idea
[16:09] <krabador> stopbullismo, ne sei vittima?
[16:09] <stopbullismo> no krabador
[16:09] <nananona> ok perfetto quindi basta che installo uno dei programmi e scarico i tunes?
[16:09] <krabador> stopbullismo, credi che qualcuno qui dentro ne sei vittima?
[16:09] <nananona> e cristian: sto computer era vuoto quando l ho preso:)
[16:09] <stopbullismo> krabador faccio parte di un sito contro il bullismo
[16:10] <krabador> stopbullismo, ok, bene.
[16:10] <stopbullismo> krabador no sono loggato da account del sito
[16:10] <Carlin0> nananona, devi installarci anche il sistema operativo dentro la macchina virtuale
[16:10] <stopbullismo> krabador bastava leggere su ;)
[16:10] <krabador> nananona, puoi anche lasciarlo perdere itunes, e provare qualche software linux, che svolga funzioni simili, se sono sufficienti
[16:10] <krabador> stopbullismo, "su " dove?
[16:11] <stopbullismo> krabador nulla nulla
[16:11] <nananona> eh devo ripristinarlo...
[16:11] <nananona> quindi senza windows o mac non andrà mai itunes?
[16:11] <krabador> nananona, al momento no, prenditela con apple
[16:12] <stopbullismo> nananona installa vmware windows 8 image tramite torrent segui guida youtube
[16:12] <krabador> stopbullismo, ma smettila
[16:12] <krabador> !chat | stopbullismo
[16:12] <ubot-it> stopbullismo: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:12] <krabador> !chat | nananona
[16:12] <nananona> ok grazie mi linkeresti la guida youtube?
[16:12] <ubot-it> nananona: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:12] <krabador> stopbullismo, non ti azzardare.
[16:12] <stopbullismo> ma di fare cosa krabador
[16:12] <stopbullismo> sto aiutando solo un utente
[16:12] <krabador> di pubblicare una guida youtube in questo canale
[16:12] <Carlin0> stopbullismo, qui passano solo link a risorse ufficiali
[16:12] <krabador> stopbullismo, si , per qualcosa che non riguada ubuntu
[16:13] <krabador> stopbullismo, questo canale ha il log
[16:13] <stopbullismo> ma che dici!!! non ho pubblicato nulla!!!
[16:13] <krabador> stopbullismo, prevenire è meglio che curare
[16:13] <krabador> come per il bullismo.
[16:13] <stopbullismo> ma quanda che non sono nato oggi so le regole
[16:13] <krabador> allora non ti offenderai .
[16:14] <stopbullismo> no ma non puoi dire cose che non ho fatto
[16:14] <krabador> stopbullismo, se conosci e capisci l'italiano, non c'è nessuna accusa su qualcosa di fatto
[16:14] <nananona> ooook siete una piccola mafia voi di ubuntu :D muaahahhaah
[16:14] <krabador> nananona, nessuna mafia
[16:15] <nananona> vmware non lo trova il software centerD:
[16:15] <stopbullismo> comunque nananona x ubuntu o distro di linux non c'e' nulla esistono versioni simili ma non adatte al tuo scopo
[16:15] <krabador> nananona, si fa supporto al sistema, non si fa consulenza generica informatica gratis
[16:15] <nananona> azz...grazie stop bullismo:)
[16:15] <krabador> stopbullismo, se l'utente ha un problema che esula dall'essere un problema tecnico strettamente legate al sistema, continuate a parlarne di la, nessuno vi dice niente
[16:15] <stopbullismo> nananona fai ricerca su google troverai tante guide
[16:16] <nananona> e krabador, è quello che fa la mafia informatica
[16:16] <nananona> ognuno tratta il racket solo nel suo territorio, se sconfini ti minacciano:D
[16:16] <krabador> nananona, è quello che fanno i superficiali, accusare di mafia chi non risponde a tutto quello che passa per la testa ad un utente
[16:16] <krabador> !chat | nananona
[16:16] <ubot-it> nananona: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:17] <stopbullismo> ok ma calma dai non sapeva nananona
[16:17] <nananona> hahahahahahahha:) ooooooook labrador :)
[16:18] <krabador> dai belli, ci sono tombini aperti, autostrade affollate, dovete per forza stare qui?
[16:19] <nananona> hhahahahaha:) fortuna che al mondo non sono tutti acidelli e repressi come teee:) ciao krabaaaaa
[16:19] <krabador> nananona, per fortuna che nel mondo ci sono quelli come et
[16:19] <stopbullismo> ma basta krabador
[16:20] <krabador> stopbullismo, che fai , mi accusi di bullismo?
[16:20] <stopbullismo> io no accuso nessuno
[16:20] <krabador> e allora mettiti a moderare le tue risorse, per favore
[16:20] <krabador> e parla se interpellato personalmente,
[16:20] <stopbullismo> chi si sente accusato x metà lo è
[16:20] <Carlin0> ...
[16:21] <nananona> olèèèèè boss krab
[16:21] <Carlin0> !chat
[16:21] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:21] <Carlin0> !chat
[16:22] <stopbullismo> ma dai è stato espulso x cosa?
[16:23] <Carlin0> stopbullismo, questa NON è una chat
[16:23] <Carlin0> è un canale di supporto
[16:24] <stopbullismo> per la cronaca nananona era una donna
[16:24] <youneverknow-> !chat | stopbullismo
[16:24] <ubot-it> stopbullismo: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:24] <Carlin0> e chi se ne frega lo vogliamo dire
[16:30] <Caterpillar> c'è twilight?
[16:31] <cristian_c> !tizio
[16:31] <ubot-it> non porre le tue domande a qualcuno in particolare, rivolgiti al canale. Non usare forme del tipo "Tizio, mi sai dire.."/"Tizio, posso?"
[16:31] <Caterpillar> Cortesemente potreste togliere il vostro bot da ##c-it?
[16:31] <Caterpillar> grazie
[16:31] <cristian_c> Caterpillar: c'è un bot in quel canale?
[16:31] <Caterpillar> cristian_c: secondo te?
[16:31] <cristian_c> Caterpillar: puoi farmi un piacere un attimo?
[16:32] <cristian_c> Caterpillar: puoi entrare un attimo in #ubuntu-it-ops?
[17:14] <Eyebename> sera a tutti, sono nuova. Avevo un quesito da porre che non sono riuscita a risolvere da sola
[17:15] <akis24> !chiedi | Eyebename
[17:15] <ubot-it> Eyebename: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[17:15] <Eyebename> ho installato sul mio notebook lubuntu.E volevo passare a Ubuntu.C'è possibilità di farlo tramite terminal o devo per forze ri fare la chiavetta usb
[17:17] <akis24> Eyebename: se vuoi passare a ubuntu rifai la chiavetta ma il pc ha le risorse necessarie ?
[17:17] <akis24> !requisiti | Eyebename
[17:17] <ubot-it> Eyebename: requisiti is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RequisitiDiSistema
[17:18] <Eyebename> grazie guardo subito e cerco di capire.
[17:18] <akis24> di nulla
[17:32] <Caterpillar> cristian_c: manco posso parlare in quel chan
[17:33] <Caterpillar> tra poco devo anche scollegarmi
[17:33] <cristian_c> Caterpillar: beh, non è così, ti danno il voice
[17:34] <cristian_c> Caterpillar: questa cosa stiamo cercando di capirla, ma questo è il canale di supporto
[17:34] <Caterpillar> misa che faccio prima ad aprire un ticket su freenode e far bannare il bot dal canale
[18:21] <sailor_moon> ciao scusate...ho un problema...ogni tanto la schermata mi diventa inutilizzabile all'improvviso
[18:21] <sailor_moon> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cvsvdthqqegphq4/Schermata%20del%202015-11-03%2016-11-06.png?dl=0
[18:21] <sailor_moon> è un problema creato da compiz o dai driver deella scheda video o entrambi? -.-
[18:24] <krabador> sailor_moon,beh, sembra un problema hardware...
[18:24] <sailor_moon> mi sta per esplodere il pc?
[18:24] <krabador> sailor_moon, 15.10 ?
[18:24] <sailor_moon> si
[18:25] <krabador> xubuntu non ha compiz
[18:25] <sailor_moon> ora sto usando ubuntu
[18:26] <sailor_moon> che usa compiz ho vistgo -.-
[18:26] <sailor_moon> visto*
[18:26] <krabador> sailor_moon, si, lasciala perdere , con la scheda che hai
[18:26] <sailor_moon> lascio perdere cosa?
[18:26] <krabador> ubuntu
[18:26] <krabador> con compiz
[18:27] <sailor_moon> ma non si può usare un altro gestore al posto di compiz?
[18:29] <krabador> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback, poi riavvia, ed al gestore di login, lo selezioni come tipo di sessione
[18:30] <sailor_moon> mhhhhhhh ma così non yso più unity?
[18:30] <krabador> è gnome piu' tradizionale, senza shell
[18:30] <sailor_moon> uso
[18:30] <krabador> sailor_moon, oh, vuoi un sistema funzionante , con l'hardware a tua disposizione, o prenderlo per forza a martellate?
[18:31] <sailor_moon> bhe guarda....se non fosse stato per questa cosa non avrei avuto nessun problema
[18:31] <sailor_moon> cmq ok
[18:31] <sailor_moon> vediamo
[18:32] <krabador> "beh guarda" , quello che si fa in questi casi, è almeno provare a vedere se il problema si presenta in un contesto in cui c'è il rendering 3f
[18:32] <krabador> 2d
[18:32] <krabador> si , 3d
[18:32] <sailor_moon> comunque onestamente mi sembra che ubuntu abbia fatto passi indietro adottando unity
[18:32] <sailor_moon> eh lo so
[18:32] <sailor_moon> vediamo.........uff speriamo di non dover buttare tutto -.-
[18:36] <sailor_moon> ok vediamo come va...alla prossima
[18:36] <sailor_moon> grazie per l'aiuto
[18:37] <krabador> di niente
[19:12] <antonio-cardinal> salve
[19:13] <antonio-cardinal> ho dei file avi su una micro sd che dovrei cancellare ma sono in sola lettura potrei cambiare i permessi ?
[19:15] <cristian_c> antonio-cardinal: i file o la mico-sd?
[19:15] <cristian_c> micro
[19:15] <antonio-cardinal> i file
[19:16] <cristian_c> beh, mostra i permessi dei file, tramite l'utility ls
[19:16] <cristian_c> !paste | antonio-cardinal
[19:16] <ubot-it> antonio-cardinal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[19:21] <antonio-cardinal> non riesco
[19:22] <antonio-cardinal> non so come fare....devo aprire il terminale?
[19:26] <cristian_c> antonio-cardinal: sì
[19:26] <cristian_c> !comandi | antonio-cardinal
[19:26] <ubot-it> antonio-cardinal: trovi i comandi base su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/ComandiBase - Gestione di File e Directory: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/ComandiBase#gestionefiledirectory - Terminale e File Manager: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/RigaDiComando
[19:29] <antonio-cardinal> non succede niente
[19:31] <cristian_c> antonio-cardinal: a cosa ti riferisci?
[19:33] <antonio-cardinal> apro il terminale e digito !comandi non succede niente
[19:34] <cristian_c> antonio-cardinal: beh, no,hai aperto i link che il bot ti ha postato?
[19:35] <antonio-cardinal> no adesso provo
[19:39] <urus> qualcuno sa come installare il compilatore tp-link per un access poi ? ho scaricato i sorgenti del firmware 150Router.tar al suo interno ce la cartella con i sorgenti e il toolchain ma non so come installarlo,
[19:43] <cristian__c> !chat | urus
[19:43] <ubot-it> urus: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[19:44] <urus> ok per ubuntu
[19:44] <urus> come mai non riesco a collegarmi a una rete wifi nascosta
[19:44] <cristian__c> !veggenti | urus
[19:44] <ubot-it> urus: Gli utenti di questo canale non sono in possesso di poteri magici, non possiedono sfere di cristallo e non sono nemmeno veggenti. Canonical non può permettersi un corso di stregoneria per i suoi collaboratori. Si chiede quindi, gentilmente, di esprimersi in maniera chiara e molto dettagliata.
[19:44] <urus> metto ssid e password ma non si collega
[19:45] <cristian__c> urus: prova a vedere cosa ti dice il dmesg
[19:46] <urus> riesco solo a collegarmi per qualche secondo con il comando iwlist wlano scanning essid
[19:46] <urus> e dopo vado in alto a destra per collegarmi, si collega per 2 secondi poi non va piu la connessione , la rete funziona bene sia con lo stesso pc con win che con android sul cell
[19:46] <cristian__c> urus: quel comando non serve a collegarsi
[19:47] <urus> lo so
[19:47] <cristian__c> ma ad elencare le reti in prossimità della wlan
[19:47] <cristian__c> della scheda wifi
[19:47] <urus> so a scannear le reti e cosi io specifico il essid " "
[19:47] <urus> cosi me la trova ma per poco tempo
[19:48] <cristian__c> cosa non è chiaro di: 'urus: prova a vedere cosa ti dice il dmesg'?
[19:48] <urus> ora sono su windows... dato che non mi pocco collegare :P
[19:49] <cristian__c> urus: bene, torna quando sei disponibile
[19:49] <urus> non non me la vede il essid del mio access point è nascosto
[19:49] <urus> ok daro quel comando poi vi faro sapere grazie mille
[19:50] <marco__> posso chiedere ?
[19:51] <marco__> come mai non riesco ad installare il driver per l'usn di internet wifi ?
[19:51] <marco__> *usb
[19:57] <sailor_moon> ok, il problema non era compiz
[19:57] <sailor_moon> quindi che faccio...? ufff
[19:59] <cristian__c> marco__:
[19:59] <vind> ciao, ho ubuntu 14.04 in virtualbox, come faccio ad avere immagine a tutto schermo, poichè quella di dafult è piccola
[19:59] <marco__> cristian
[19:59] <cristian__c> marco__: che wifi hai?
[19:59] <cristian__c> sailor_moon: ???
[20:00] <cristian__c> vind: non hai risolto ieri?
[20:00] <sailor_moon> scusate allora rispiego...............
[20:00] <marco__> ti posso dire l'adattatore
[20:00] <cristian__c> marco__: sì
[20:00] <cristian__c> marco__: anzi, apri un terminale
[20:00] <marco__> Usb N13 il Wifi non so perchè non è telecom
[20:00] <marco__> ok
[20:01] <marco__> fatto
[20:01] <cristian__c> marco__: e digita: lsusb && lsusb -t
[20:01] <cristian__c> !paste | marco__
[20:01] <ubot-it> marco__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:02] <marco__> ecco http://paste.ubuntu.com/13094500/
[20:03] <antonio-cardinal> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13094504/
[20:04] <cristian__c> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0b05:17ab ASUSTek Computer, Inc. USB-N13 802.11n Network Adapter (rev. B1) [Realtek RTL8192CU]
[20:04] <antonio-cardinal> cristian__c puoi guardare questo output ?
[20:04] <antonio-cardinal> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13094504/
[20:05] <marco__> si
[20:05] <cristian__c> |__ Port 2: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=rtl8192cu, 480M
[20:05] <cristian__c> marco__: beh, non vedo una mancanza di driver...
[20:05] <marco__> e come mai mi la lento internet ?
[20:06] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: allora
[20:06] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: l'ouput è ok
[20:06] <cristian__c> output
[20:06] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: ma c'è un problema
[20:06] <cristian__c> marco__: ?
[20:06] <cristian__c> marco__: qual è il problema?
[20:06] <marco__> quando ho fatto un controllo con wifi ritil mi dice tx Rate 1 Mb dipende da quello ?
[20:06] <antonio-cardinal> non riesco a cancellare gli avi
[20:07] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: in pratica, sei loggato come root, perché?
[20:07] <sailor_moon> ho un problema, ogni tanto lo schermo diventa inutilizzabile così https://www.dropbox.com/s/cvsvdthqqegphq4/Schermata%20del%202015-11-03%2016-11-06.png?dl=0 e compiz non sembra essere la causa...
[20:07] <marco__> cristian internet mi va lento viaggio alle velocita di 56kb mentre quando accedo da windows vado a 6 mb
[20:07] <antonio-cardinal> perchè credevo che potesse servire a cancellare i file
[20:07] <cristian__c> marco__: non ho capito che controllo hai fatto
[20:08] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: non funziona così
[20:08] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: se proprio devi, utilizza sudo
[20:08] <cristian__c> !sudo | antonio-cardinal
[20:08] <ubot-it> antonio-cardinal: root è disabilitato di default su ubuntu, usa sudo per eseguire i comandi testuali con i permessi di root http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Sudo - per i programmi con interfaccia grafica usa gksudo o kdesudo
[20:08] <marco__> cioè mi hanno detto di scaricare RutilT Strumento di Configurazione Rete Wifi
[20:08] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: ma non loggarti come root, che rischi di fare danni all'os
[20:09] <marco__> e lo aperto mi dice potenza segnale 50% Tx 1 MB
[20:10] <marco__> e lo aperto mi dice potenza segnale 50% Tx Rate 1 MB
[20:11] <marco__> eppure e una connessione da 6 Mb su windows viaggio molto veloce dovrebbe essere il contrario è questo è che non riesco a capire
[20:12] <marco__> cristian__c capisci ? dove il problema ?
[20:12] <cristian__c> sailor_moon: qual è il problema di utilizzare xubuntu invece (che tra l'altro è assai configurabile)?
[20:13] <cristian__c> marco__: c'è sicuramente qualche problema
[20:13] <sailor_moon> ho lo stesso problema anche con xubuntu
[20:13] <cristian__c> marco__: digita: iwconfig | pastebinit
[20:14] <marco__> lo no wireless extensions.
[20:14] <marco__> eth0 no wireless extensions.
[20:14] <marco__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13094628/
[20:14] <cristian__c> sailor_moon: very very strange
[20:14] <cristian__c> sailor_moon: hai provato in live?
[20:15] <sailor_moon> cioè?
[20:15] <sailor_moon> ah con il disco etc..?
[20:15] <sailor_moon> ieri avevo installato la 10.qualcosa e non mi sembrava di avere problemi...
[20:15] <sailor_moon> mah
[20:16] <marco__> cristian__c http://paste.ubuntu.com/13094628/
[20:16] <cristian__c> marco__: hai link quality 70/70
[20:16] <cristian__c> sailor_moon: prova con la live della distro corrente
[20:17] <sailor_moon> a fare cosa?
[20:17] <marco__> che significa e che sono connesso tramite la connessione dati del telefono perchè se connetto il wifi del adsl non mi funziona
[20:17] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal intanto, riloggati come il tuo utente
[20:18] <cristian__c> sailor_moon: vedi se in live della 15.10 ci sono problemi
[20:18] <cristian__c> marco__: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[20:19] <cristian__c> !paste | marco__
[20:19] <ubot-it> marco__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:20] <marco__> cristian__c http://paste.ubuntu.com/13094709/
[20:20] <antonio-cardinal> come si fa cristian?
[20:21] <cristian__c> marco__: ci sono soltanto due ssid
[20:21] <marco__> si
[20:22] <cristian__c> marco__: a quanto ho capito il tuo adattatore si aggancia all'hotspot del telefono, ma non a quello del tuo router
[20:22] <marco__> il primo e il telefono il 2 e l'adsl
[20:22] <cristian__c> ok
[20:22] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: digita: exit
[20:22] <marco__> si lo agganciato io perchè nel 2 non riesco a navigare
[20:23] <cristian__c> Frequency:2.417 GHz (Channel 2) Quality=48/70 Signal level=-62 dBm
[20:23] <marco__> nel 2 ssd la potenza e di 6 MB ma e come se viaggessa a 57 kb max 88
[20:24] <antonio-cardinal> ok grazie sono tornato $
[20:24] <marco__> si ma se lo uso su windows riesco a navigare veloce sui 5,33 MB e in uo 2,13
[20:24] <cristian__c> marco__: dovrebbe essere circa il 60% di segnale rilevato dal wifi permla tua adsl
[20:24] <cristian__c> non mi sembra basso
[20:24] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: perfeto
[20:24] <cristian__c> perfetto
[20:25] <cristian__c> marco__: a che distanza sei?
[20:25] <marco__> si ma non riesco a capire il perchè su windows va da dio è su ubuntu navigo a 57 kb max 88 ?
[20:25] <marco__> e al piano di sopra
[20:25] <cristian__c> marco__: allora
[20:26] <cristian__c> marco__: bisogna fare una prova
[20:26] <cristian__c> marco__: collegati
[20:26] <cristian__c> marco__: e poi digita: dmesg
[20:26] <cristian__c> !paste | marco__
[20:26] <ubot-it> marco__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:27] <cristian__c> marco__: dalla stessa posizione non hai problemi con altri os/dispositivi?
[20:27] <marco__> ok
[20:27] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: allora
[20:27] <marco__> se nn riesco a connettermi che faccio ?
[20:27] <antonio-cardinal> comunque non riesco a cancellare i file avi che ti ho detto e nemmeno i file jpg che ho nel cestino hanno tutti un lucchetto disegnato.....
[20:28] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: se vuoi cancellare gli avi, digita per esempio:
[20:28] <marco__> a dopo cristian
[20:30] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: rm /media/antoniomassara/B634-D4B1/DCIM/100MEDIA/' 2014 1SUNP0001.AVI'
[20:30] <antonio-cardinal> grazie ora provo
[20:30] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: e in modo simile anche per gli altri, sostituendo il nome del fike
[20:30] <cristian__c> file
[20:31] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: il problema credo dipenda dal fatto che i nomi dei file contengano spazi, cosa che può dare problemi a riga di comando
[20:32] <marco__> non mi fa connettere
[20:32] <marco__> cristian__c
[20:33] <cristian__c> marco__: hai salvato l'output?
[20:33] <marco__> non mi ha fatto connette
[20:33] <marco__> dove dare dmesg senza connettermi ?
[20:35] <antonio-cardinal> cristian__c http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13094844/
[20:35] <marco__> cristian__c anche se non riesco a collegarmi e mi dice Disconnesso sei fuori rete devo dare cmq il comando ?
[20:40] <cristian__c> marco__: allora
[20:40] <cristian__c> marco__: devi provare a connetterti, anche se la cosa non va a buon fine
[20:40] <cristian__c> marco__: e poi digiti il comando
[20:41] <marco__> ok ok
[20:41] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: allora il problema non è del file, ma dell'intera micro-sd
[20:42] <cristian__c> a differenza di come avevi detto in precedenza
[20:43] <antonio-cardinal> non posso formattarla?
[20:43] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: potresti anche
[20:43] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: ma è una micro-sd su adattatore sd?
[20:44] <antonio-cardinal> si su una chiavetta
[20:44] <cristian__c> ovvero una scheda sd
[20:44] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: cioè?
[20:45] <antonio-cardinal> l'ho estratta dalla video camera e messa sulla chiavetta
[20:45] <antonio-cardinal> la videocamera è rotta
[20:45] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: cosa intendi per 'chiavetta'?
[20:45] <antonio-cardinal> una pen drive
[20:45] <antonio-cardinal> usb
[20:45] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: ma non ho capito il nesso con la micro-sd
[20:46] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: la pendrive usb ha uno slot micro-sd?
[20:46] <antonio-cardinal> si esatto
[20:47] <cristian__c> mmm, se fosse stato un adattatore sd poteva essere pure lo switch per bloccare in scrittura
[20:47] <cristian__c> ma in questo caso invece non è sicuramente così
[20:47] <antonio-cardinal> non ci sono interruttori
[20:48] <antonio-cardinal> manuali
[20:48] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: prova a rifare la tabella delle partizioni, se i file attuali non ti servono
[20:49] <antonio-cardinal> come si fa? i file attuali li vorrei cancellare tutti
[20:49] <marco__> cristian__c http://paste.ubuntu.com/13095036/
[20:49] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: lo fai comodamente tramite gparted
[20:49] <antonio-cardinal> sia la micro sd che quelli nel cestino
[20:50] <cristian__c> marco__: mmmmmmmmmmm
[20:51] <marco__> ora sto installando il kernel
[20:52] <marco__> speriamo che funzioni
[20:52] <marco__> altrimenti mi arrendo
[20:55] <cristian__c> marco__: allora
[20:55] <cristian__c> marco__: che stai facendo?
[20:55] <cristian__c> il problema sembra tutt'altro
[20:55] <cristian__c> marco__: non prendere iniziative
[20:56] <marco__> sto seguendo qua e su ubuntu-it di facebook
[20:56] <cristian__c> marco__: se vuoi, provo a fare un'ipotesi, da quanto ho visto nell'output
[20:56] <cristian__c> marco__: senti
[20:56] <marco__> ok
[20:56] <cristian__c> non è perché oggigiorno si va di multitasking
[20:57] <marco__> ?
[20:57] <cristian__c> ma se devi seguire , segui da una parte, invece che stare con due piedi in una scarpa
[20:57] <marco__> si scusa
[20:58] <cristian__c> marco__: temo che il kernel non c'entri niente
[20:58] <antonio-cardinal> ho fatto partire gparted adesso
[20:58] <marco__> interrompo lo scaricamento del kernel ?
[20:58] <cristian__c> marco__: perché i messaggi del dmesg parlano di firewall
[20:58] <cristian__c> marco__: in pratica, pare tu abbia attivo un firewall
[20:58] <cristian__c> marco__: che probabilmente, ti impedisce la connessione
[20:59] <marco__> come risolvo ?
[20:59] <cristian__c> marco__: non so da dove l'hai recuperato 'sto kernel
[20:59] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: ottimo
[20:59] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: vai nel menù, dovrebbe esserci l'opzione per rifare la tabella
[21:00] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: e poi scegli msdos
[21:00] <marco__> ora ho fatto apt-get install linux-source devo interrompere ?
[21:00] <cristian__c> antonio-cardinal: infine, fai una partizione fat32, o quello che è, e applica le modifiche
[21:01] <cristian__c> marco__: qual è il comando, esattamente?
[21:01] <cristian__c> http://askubuntu.com/questions/143371/what-do-ufws-audit-log-entries-mean
[21:01] <cristian__c> marco__: ,sei piene di ste righe del firewall
[21:02] <marco__> per ? a me sul gruppo mi hanno detto di aggiornare il kernel apt-get install linux-source cmq ora ho disabilitato il firewall
[21:02] <cristian__c> non mi sembra normale
[21:04] <cristian__c> marco__: ahhh, l'avevi attivato tu?
[21:04] <marco__> si
[21:04] <cristian__c> allora non aiuta a capire cosa succede
[21:04] <marco__> ma è lo stesso
[21:04] <cristian__c> !info linux-source
[21:04] <ubot-it> Package linux-source does not exist in vivid
[21:05] <cristian__c> marco__: il nome di questo pacchetto sembra non esistere
[21:05] <sbasso> buona sera
[21:05] <cristian__c> ma meglio controllare sul sito
[21:06] <marco__> cristian__c http://paste.ubuntu.com/13095229/
[21:10] <cristian__c> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-source&searchon=names&suite=wily§ion=all
[21:11] <cristian__c> wily (devel): Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches
[21:11] <cristian__c> marco__: non hai installato il kernel, ma i sorgenti del kernel
[21:11] <marco__> perdona la mia n00baggine ti prego
[21:12] <cristian__c> o meglio, in pratica li hai scaricati sul sistema, senza compilarli
[21:12] <cristian__c> marco__: di quel pacchetto, in realtà, non te ne fai niente
[21:12] <marco__> si dopo mi e stato detto di fare apt-get install build-essential e apt-get install make
[21:13] <cristian__c> marco__: che ti metti a compilare il kernel?
[21:13] <cristian__c> personalmente non te lo consiglio
[21:13] <cristian__c> anche perché ubuntu al kernel , ci applica le sue patch
[21:14] <cristian__c> e a questo punto uno fa prima a scaricarsi direttamente i binari precompilati del team ubuntu kernel
[21:14] <cristian__c> in formato .deb
[21:15] <marco__> bho non capisco niente
[21:16] <cristian__c> a maggior ragione. lascia perdere questo tipo di soluzione, che non so a cosa ti dovrebbe portare
[21:16] <cristian__c> e quale beneficio dare
[21:16] <cristian__c> marco__: ripristina le cose com'erano prima, disattivando il firewall, se l'avevi attivato
[21:17] <cristian__c> marco__: domanda: in live, la wifi, come va con l'adsl?
[21:17] <marco__> si ma il risultato era uguale andava sempre piano
[21:17] <cristian__c> marco__: qui addirittura mi dici che non si connette neanche
[21:17] <cristian__c> marco__: puoi avviare la live?
[21:18] <marco__> putroppo è vero
[21:19] <marco__> adesso sta scaricando se interrompo non succede nulla ?
[21:19] <cristian__c> marco__: lascialo lavorare
[21:20] <cristian__c> marco__: che non credo ci metterà un'eternità a scaricare e installare un pacchetto
[21:20] <marco__> sono al 76
[21:32] <marco__> fatto finito
[21:38] <sailor_moon> scusate la domanda stupida...come faccio ad associare una riga di comando ad uno shortcut sulla tastiera?
[21:39] <sbasso> in che senso?
[21:39] <sbasso> sailor_moon: se usi bash puoi farti un alias
[21:41] <sailor_moon> nel senso di lanciare un comando tramite un tasto sulla tastiera
[21:43] <sbasso> sailor_moon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[21:45] <sailor_moon> mhhhh non mi sembra di vedere quello che cerco...sicuramente sarà una fesseria
[21:46] <sbasso> se scrolli trovi quello che cerchi
[21:48] <sbasso> sailor_moon: senno http://askubuntu.com/a/331632
[21:49] <sailor_moon> mhhhh dovrei lanciare un comando non copiare del testo...
[21:49] <sailor_moon> mhhh
[21:51] <sbasso> ma lanciare un comando tipo?
[21:51] <sailor_moon> ok scusate
[21:52] <sailor_moon> era stupidissimo
[21:52] <sailor_moon> risolto xDDD
[21:52] <sailor_moon> grazie e scusa
[21:52] <cristian__c> ...
[22:38] <sbasso> notte
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[02:58] <marisol> hola tengo problemas acabo de instalar ubuntu pero no puedo instalar mi antena wifi encontre https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc pero no se que hacer
[03:01] <marisol> ya lo encontre me puede alguien guiar a como lo debo instalar?
[03:13] <marisol> hola....
[03:13] <marisol> chicospor favor ayudenme
[03:31] <marisol> hola!!
[03:56] <marisol> nadie?
[10:13] <Patero-ng> hola a todititos
[17:56] <residente> pene
[18:36] <MarioMey> Hola gente. Estoy teniendo unos problemitas con la instalación de paquetes y dependencias. Voy a intentar explicarlo bien...
[18:37] <MarioMey> Hace unos días estaba intentando clonar para compilar Blender.
[18:38] <MarioMey> Intentando bajar dependencias necesarias (ej: FFMPEG), apareció un mensaje de problemas de dependencia. Cuando ví que se puso complicado... me rendí a compilar (ya tengo experiencias frustadas y no tengo tiempo para otras más).
[18:39] <MarioMey> Más adelante en el día, intenté instalar skype... y me saltó este mismo mensaje. Pero, esta vez, con dependencias de skype.
[18:39] <MarioMey> (ahora vengo)
[18:42] <MarioMey> Cuando hago sudo apt-get -f install, no se resuelve las dependencias.
[18:43] <MarioMey> Entonces, lo dejo... e intento instalar el paquete deb de Google Hangouts (estaba queriendo hacer videoconferencia). Cuando intento instalarlo, también, nuevmaente me salta con el problema de dependencias.
[18:43] <mimecar> no es buena idea usar apt-get -f
[18:43] <MarioMey> Incluso, ahora me acuerdo bien, saltaban las dependencias inclumplidas de skype, intentando instalar Hangouts.
[18:44] <MarioMey> Para que dejase de hacerlo, tenía que hacer sudo apt-get purge skype. A partir de ahí, apt-get -f install me daba un buen resultado.
[18:44] <MarioMey> O sea, me tiraba un OK.
[18:44] <mimecar> no te puede dar buen resultado porque ese parámetro le dice a apt
[18:44] <MarioMey> ¿Alguien sabe qué sucede y cóm oresolverlo?=
[18:44] <mimecar> "instala aunque no cumplas las dependencias y fallen cosas"
[18:45] <MarioMey> Ajá...
[18:46] <MarioMey> mimecar: ¿Podemos ir paso a paso, intentando instalar Skype, por ejemplo?
[18:46] <mimecar> lo primero, ¿qué versión de Ubuntu tienes?
[18:46] <MarioMey> Ubuntu-Mate 14.04
[18:46] <MarioMey> 64x
[18:48] <mimecar> quita todos los paquetes que hayas instalado con apt -f
[18:49] <MarioMey> mimecar: E: No se conoce la opción de línea de órdenes «f» [de -f].
[18:49] <MarioMey> Probé con apt y apt-get
[18:49] <MarioMey> Lo mismo.
[18:49] <mimecar> lo acabas de poner ahora mismo
[18:49] <mimecar> apt-get -f install
[18:49] <MarioMey> Ah, ok.
[18:50] <MarioMey> mimecar: http://www.pasteall.org/62028
[18:53] <mimecar> ¿cuántos paquetes has forzado que se instalen?
[18:54] <MarioMey> Uh. A ver... a mi parecer, nunca llegué a forzar nada que se instale.
[18:54] <MarioMey> Si intenté instalar algunos paquetes que estaban en una lista como ésta (de cuando queŕia compilar Blender), pero cada paquete me pedía más dependencias... y así, hasta que abandoné. Pero, que yo sepa, nunca se llegó a instalar nada.
[18:54] <MarioMey> (aunque seguro que sí sucedió)
[18:55] <mimecar> pon la salida de apt-get install
[18:55] <mimecar> si has forzado paquetes tu sistema puede ser inestable
[18:56] <MarioMey> Qué raro: E: No se pudo abrir el fichero de bloqueo «/var/lib/dpkg/lock» - open (13: Permiso denegado)
[18:56] <MarioMey> No tengo abierto otro instalador...
[18:56] <mimecar> ¿estás usando sudo?
[18:56] <MarioMey> Disculpá, fue eso.
[18:57] <MarioMey> La salida es similar a la que pasteé.
[18:57] <MarioMey> Ahora pasteo -esta...
[18:57] <MarioMey> mimecar: http://www.pasteall.org/62030
[18:58] <mimecar> elimina skype
[18:58] <MarioMey> Te aviso que ayer lo hice, pero siguió haciéndolo. Lo voy a hacer ahora.
[18:59] <MarioMey> Lo acabo de sacar con "remove".
[18:59] <MarioMey> Listo.
[18:59] <mimecar> pon de nuevo la salida del comando
[18:59] <mimecar> si te sale skype no lo has eliminado
[18:59] <MarioMey> 0 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 27 no actualizados.
[18:59] <mimecar> ok, ahora actualiza todo el sistema
[19:00] <MarioMey> upadateando, upgradeando...
[19:00] <MarioMey> Mientras, te cuento que ayer hice dos cosas que posiblemente hayan traído algún problema, tú me dirás.
[19:01] <MarioMey> Una, borrar el arhchivo /var/lib/dpkg/lock y, otra, desinstalar aquellos paquetes que dicen que fueron instalados por alguna rzón, pero que ya no se usan.
[19:01] <mimecar> para que has intentado borrar el lock?
[19:02] <MarioMey> ¿Habría algún problema en eso que hice?
[19:02] <MarioMey> Lo leí en algún foro...
[19:02] <MarioMey> Y creo que ya lo había hecho antes, en alǵun momento...
[19:02] <mimecar> problemas no
[19:02] <mimecar> pero no tiene mucho sentido hacerlo
[19:02] <MarioMey> Ok.
[19:02] <mimecar> sobretodo cuando el sistema lo borra si no se está ejecutando apt
[19:04] <MarioMey> ¿No puede ser que quede trabado ese archivo, algo así como si estuviese usando... pero no?
[19:04] <mimecar> de normal no
[19:04] <MarioMey> (disculpá mi forma de explicar tan noob)
[19:04] <MarioMey> Voy a upgradear ahora.
[19:05] <MarioMey> Va a estar un rato. Vuelvo cuando termine, ¿sí, mimecar?
[19:05] <MarioMey> (90mb)
[19:06] <mimecar> ok
[19:11] * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[19:12] <MarioMey> mimecar: Listo, ya upgradeó.
[19:14] <mimecar> instala skype por consola
[19:31] <MarioMey> mimecar: ahí hice sudo dpkg -i skype.....deb.
[19:32] <MarioMey> Dice "Seleccionando...", "Preparing to unpack...", "Unpacking skype" y...
[19:32] <MarioMey> dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuración de skype:
[19:32] <MarioMey> Y aparece una lista así:
[19:32] <mimecar> pon la salida en pastebin
[19:32] <MarioMey> skype depende de libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~).
[19:32] <MarioMey> Y 16 items así.
[19:33] <MarioMey> mimecar: http://www.pasteall.org/62031
[19:33] <novato_lubuntu20> sBuenas
[19:33] <mimecar> en la 14.04 la versión de libc6 es la 2.19
[19:33] <mimecar> MarioMey, ¿seguro que estás usando Ubuntu?
[19:34] <MarioMey> ¡Sí! Eso sí, es la versión de Ubuntu-Mate que se instala así.
[19:34] <MarioMey> O sea, no es Ubuntu y le instastalé el escritorio... sino que lo bajé de https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[19:35] <mimecar> parece uan distribución derivada
[19:36] <mimecar> las versiones de los paquetes que te fallan son más recientes en ubuntu 14.04
[19:36] <mimecar> no tiene sentido que tengas esas versiones antiguas
[19:36] <novato_lubuntu20> Buenas tardes, Estoy usando lununtu 14.04 y cada cierto tiempo(no fijo), se me queda pillado el sistema, y se reinicia,. He intentado mirar los logs, pero no encuentro, o no se donde buscar
[19:36] <MarioMey> Pero el tema es que no se actualizaron solas, ¿no?
[19:37] <mimecar> novato_lubuntu20, ¿tienes actualizado el sistema?
[19:37] <mimecar> MarioMey, en tu versión no lo sé
[19:38] <novato_lubuntu20> mimecar: No no lo tengo, intento acceder al actualización y antes de cargar me da error
[19:38] <mimecar> pon el error en pastebin
[19:38] <mimecar> !paste novato_lubuntu20
[19:39] <novato_lubuntu20> mimecar: Quiero decir que se me queda pillado el sistema
[19:39] <novato_lubuntu20> voya probar ahora de nuevo
[19:39] <mimecar> si se bloquea con ese comando puede ser un fallo de hardwaer
[19:39] <mimecar> hardware
[19:39] <MarioMey> mimecar: Te entiendo... pero, te soy sincero, tengo la sensación que hay un error por otro lado. Ahora estoy bajando algún deb (Google Earth) para ver qué me dice cuando lo intente instalar.
[19:40] <mimecar> MarioMey, tu mismo
[19:40] <mimecar> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=libstdc%2B%2B6&searchon=names
[19:40] <mimecar> ahí tienes las versiones que hay en cada versión de Ubuntu
[19:40] <mimecar> Skype está preparado para la 12.04 y se debería instalar con lo que ya tienes en los repositorios
[19:41] <mimecar> pide versiones antiguas de las dependencias y no las cumples
[19:43] <MarioMey> mimecar: ¿cómo hago para saber la versión que tengo instalada en el sistema de un paquete en particular, por terminal?
[19:44] <MarioMey> Porque estoy viendo, desde Synaptic, que tengo instalada la versión 4.8.4-ubuntu1~14.04.
[19:44] <mimecar> lsb_release -a
[19:45] <MarioMey> mimecar: digo de un paquete en particular. Por ejemplo, libstdc++6.
[19:46] <mimecar> pues no es lo que dice Skype...
[19:46] <mimecar> tu sistema es de 64 bits?
[19:46] <MarioMey> Sí.
[19:46] <MarioMey> mimecar: mirá esto:
[19:46] <MarioMey> mario@circo3d:~/Descargas/Programas$ dpkg-query -W libstdc++6
[19:46] <MarioMey> libstdc++6:amd64 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04
[19:47] <mimecar> ¿has descargado el paquete multiarch?
[19:47] <MarioMey> ¿De Skype? Sí.
[19:47] <mimecar> los paquetes que descargas de Skype son de 32 bits
[19:47] <mimecar> es la única explicación
[19:48] <mimecar> no tienes paquetes de 32 bits instalados y Skype dice que no cumples requisitos
[19:49] <MarioMey> Ah... puede ser porque desinstalé aquellos paquetes que, según el sistema, podían ser desinstalados.
[19:49] <MarioMey> Y ahí estarían... ¿no?
[19:49] <MarioMey> ¿Cómo hago para instalarlos, entonces?
[19:49] <mimecar> ¿qué paquetes has desinstalado?
[19:49] <MarioMey> Usé "Autoremove".
[20:00] <mimecar> prueba a instalar libstdc++6 de 32 bits
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[01:56] * tsimonq2 facepalms
[01:56] <tsimonq2> h00k: what happened?
[02:42] <h00k> tsimonq2: someone joined and spammed junk, then left
[02:55] <tsimonq2> wow
[02:55] <tsimonq2> h00k: so were you gonna transfer contact position to me, or what?
[12:51] <tsimonq2> h00k: we forgot the IRC logs link, and I changed it from Tuesday to Today
[12:52] <tsimonq2> h00k: (the topic, that is)
[13:18] <h00k> tsimonq2: sweet action
[13:18] <h00k> tsimonq2: good call on both
[14:33] <tsimonq2> h00k: and you will be there, right?
[14:38] <tsimonq2> h00k: and regardless, can you manage the meetingology bot, because although I have the command list, I am not comfortable using it yet. And being and IRC op, I am assuuming you have
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2015-11-03-#juju
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[06:21] <Prabakaran> Hello Team, I have created a new bug for my charm and after linking bug id to the trunk branch in the lauchpad i am not able to see my charm in the review queue. Could you please advise on the same?
[12:22] <gnuoy> jamespage, charmhelper mp as discussed https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charm-helpers/service-framework-loader/+merge/276519
[13:13] <jamespage> gnuoy, landed - thankyou!
[13:14] <jamespage> coreycb, hey - thanks for the tox landing yesterday - I updated the two borked branches and generated a new one for ceph-radosgw
[13:15] <jamespage> I think that just leaves swift stuff and cinder-ceph
[13:36] <gnuoy> jamespage, follow up for the charm itself, sync + minor change to services.py https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charms/trusty/neutron-api-odl/ch-sync/+merge/276520
[13:37] <jamespage> gnuoy, +1
[13:37] <gnuoy> ta
[14:14] <gnuoy> jamespage, In the interests of not duplicating effort I'm going to start on the unit and amulet tests for odl-controller
[14:14] <jamespage> gnuoy, ack
[14:15] <jamespage> gnuoy, I'll deploy ovs-odl and start looking at the north/south traffic issues BjornT hit
[14:15] <gnuoy> kk
[14:27] <coreycb> jamespage, no problem, those other two branches are landed now
[14:28] <jamespage> coreycb, thanks
[14:28] <coreycb> jamespage, do you have swift/cinder-ceph in the works? if not I can pick those up if you want.
[14:29] <jamespage> coreycb, yeah done this morning - links on the pad - http://pad.ubuntu.com/tox-charm-landings
[14:29] <coreycb> jamespage, great I'll review them
[15:26] <gnuoy> jamespage, git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~sdn-charmers/charms/+source/openvswitch-odl is proving problematic with amulet. There's no series in there and I'm going to need to update python-charmworldlib to be able to parse it
[15:27] <jamespage> gnuoy, oh I pushed that to lp:~openstack-charmers/charms/trusty/openvswitch-odl/trunk this monring
[15:27] <gnuoy> jamespage, \o/
[15:27] <jamespage> that sounds like a nasty blocker to git migration...
[15:28] <gnuoy> ah well, lets stay on bzr then
[15:44] <bdx> hey whats going on? Im testing out "enable-local-dhcp-and-metadata
[15:45] <gnuoy> jamespage, Using http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ost-maintainers/openstack-charm-testing/trunk/view/head:/bundles/ovs-odl/ovs-odl.yaml relates neutron-gateway and openvswitch-odl with the juju-info interface, is that right?
[15:45] <jamespage> gnuoy, it is
[15:45] <gnuoy> ok
[15:46] <bdx> I'm having a hard time locating the metadataproxy datasource that instances get cloud-init userdata from when enable-local-dhcp-and-metadata is set
[15:46] <bdx> has anyone had luck using enable-local-dhcp-and-metadata ?
[15:47] <gnuoy> bdx, I have had lots of luck with it
[15:47] <bdx> I'm guessing the metadata api endpoint is also the dhcp port then yea?
[15:48] <bdx> or the dhcp port will at least forward traffic to 169.254.169.254/32 correct?
[15:49] <gnuoy> bdx, if I remember correctly the dhcp request returns a static route pointing 169.254.169.254 at the nic inside the dhcp namespace
[15:50] <gnuoy> bdx, give me a minute and I'll fire up a deploy and remind myself
[15:51] <bdx> gnuoy: that is consistent with what I'm seeing....
[15:51] <bdx> gnuoy: when you do, create your tenant networks as vlan networks
[15:51] <bdx> if you don't mind
[15:51] <gnuoy> bdx, I do
[15:51] <bdx> ok
[15:51] <gnuoy> bdx, haha that was out of sync
[15:52] <gnuoy> I meant 'I do create them as vlan networks'
[15:52] <gnuoy> bdx, ^ I didn't mean I minded
[15:52] <bdx> totally
[15:52] <bdx> ha
[15:52] <bdx> gotcha
[16:07] <mattyw> jose, ping?
[16:08] <jose> mattyw: pong!
[16:25] <bdx> Nodes fail to reboot/powercycle when ceph-osd + (nova-compute + hugepages) due to deadlock
[16:25] <bdx> I'll be filing a bug for it in a few
[16:25] <bdx> its had me stopped up for the last few days
[16:31] <Prabakaran> Hello Team, I have created a new bug for my charm and after linking bug id to the trunk branch in the lauchpad i am not able to see my charm in the review queue. Could you please advise on the same?
[16:32] <gnuoy> bdx, ok, I'm up and running with enable-local-dhcp-and-metadata
[16:33] <gnuoy> bdx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13092618/
[16:33] <bdx> gnuoy: nice!
[16:34] <gnuoy> so those networks are provider networks
[16:34] <bdx> entirely.....
[16:34] <Prabakaran> My charm link is "https://code.launchpad.net/~ibmcharmers/charms/trusty/ibm-platform-rtm/trunk"
[16:35] <gnuoy> bdx, so your guests get an ip but fail to retrieve metadata?
[16:36] <bdx> gnuoy: yes.....I just found an inconsistency on one of my physical nodes port <-> vlan trunk was on eth4 ....whereas the rest of my nodes use eth3...grrr
[16:36] <gnuoy> bdx, ah !
[16:38] <gnuoy> bdx, you can use mac addresses in the data-port setting for neutron-openvswitch
[16:38] <gnuoy> to cope with inconsistencies
[16:38] <bdx> gnuoy: oh no way tahts huge!!!!!!
[16:38] <bdx> hah
[16:38] <bdx> I must of missed that
[16:38] <gnuoy> bdx, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13092664/
[16:39] <bdx> oh taht is awesome!
[16:39] <bdx> that*
[16:39] <gnuoy> yeah, it really useful
[17:29] <tvansteenburgh> hazmat, you around?
[17:55] <Prabakaran> Hello Team, I have created a new bug for my charm and after linking bug id to the trunk branch in the lauchpad i am not able to see my charm in the review queue. Could you please advise on the same? Charm link is "https://code.launchpad.net/~ibmcharmers/charms/trusty/ibm-platform-rtm/trunk"
[17:58] <tvansteenburgh> Prabakaran: see https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/authors-charm-store#recommended-charms, point #3
[17:59] <tvansteenburgh> Prabakaran: i think you need to subscribe the charmers team to your bug
[18:08] <tvansteenburgh> Prabakaran: i subscribed charmers for you, so your bug should show up in the Review Queue shortly
[18:19] <Prabakaran> Thanks <tvansteenburgh>
[20:02] <firl> any openstackers on able to help me diagnose something?
[20:16] <catbus1> firl: Hi, if you ask the question about the specific issue you encounter, chances are higher for someone who can help to respond.
[20:17] <firl> catbus1, yeah I am trying to diagnose why I can’t spawn an instance and see the actual log file still, but haven’t been able to get anything more than a vague python error
[20:21] <catbus1> firl: so you have got openstack cloud deployed using juju, and are you using juju to deploy a workload to this openstack environment? or are you using openstack dashboard to try to launch an instance?
[20:21] <firl> I have a juju deployed kilo setup
[20:21] <firl> last night I had to reboot the state machines
[20:22] <firl> and now when I launch a vm from horizon I get this error:
[20:22] <firl> http://pastebin.com/RZjcMzUz
[20:22] <firl> been trying to find the issue in the log files, but 42 nodes and multiple log files lends it self to taking a while
[20:28] <catbus1> firl: Thanks for the error info. I personally can't help.. wait to see if others on this channel can help.
[20:28] <firl> :)
[20:28] <firl> it might be related to neutron / rabbitmq but no idea how to make sure
[20:29] <catbus1> firl: do you think this is related to Juju? if it's openstack kilo, wanna also check #openstack for help?
[20:30] <firl> I was hoping from the juju side to help figure out how to diagnose it since the bundle created it, and I can upgrade via juju if there is a patch etc
[20:30] <firl> but no I haven't
[20:31] <catbus1> understood.
[20:32] <firl> like, I think it’s rabbitmq but I don’t know how to check the credentials because I didn’t set it up juju did
[20:34] <catbus1> firl: can you share the kilo bundle yaml file you used?
[20:35] <firl> http://pastebin.com/T9uE9yJB
[22:39] <bdx> hey whats going on? Quick question on deploys using enable-local-dhcp-and-metadata....
[22:40] <bdx> If enable-local-dhcp-and-metadata is set, then floating ip assignment can't happen, because no neutron router right?
[22:41] <bdx> and well to add to that, neutron routers can't exist either right?
[22:45] <bdx> core, dev:^^
[22:52] <bdx> any takers^^?
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2015-11-03-#xubuntu
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[01:03] <Orioa> /buffer merge
[01:16] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Orioa, what is that about?
[01:18] <Orioa> tryin to get all my buffers to well disappear
[01:19] <Orioa> i have a list but i did a one time have it set to only show one then when i go to it i can change buffers
[01:20] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Orioa: It didn't go through as a cmd... there was a space or something before /
[01:21] <Orioa> ahh
[01:22] <Orioa> still did n't work
[01:22] <Unit193> Orioa: /clear
[01:22] <Unit193> Unless I misunderstand the question. That'll make all the text disappear.
[01:22] <Orioa> nah thats not what i am tryin to do
[01:23] <Unit193> JohnnyComeL8ly: Orioa Would appear to be learning weechat, he's typo'd a few times though. :P
[01:23] <Unit193> Orioa: FWIW, at some point you may want to register with NickServ and setup SASL.
[01:23] <Orioa> i had to were it didn't show a list of buffers
[01:24] <Orioa> i am registered with nickserv
[01:24] <Unit193> NickServ(NickServ@services.): Orioa is not registered.
[01:24] <Orioa> hmm
[01:25] <Orioa> it was
[01:26] <Orioa> what command would i use to register it
[01:26] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Unit193: weechat doesn't look like it is as good as just using HexChat.
[01:27] <Unit193> Orioa: /msg nickserv help register You'll need to set an email and password.
[01:27] <Unit193> JohnnyComeL8ly: It's all preference, I use Irssi.
[01:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Definitely, preference is key here. :-)
[01:29] <Orioa> ok it is registered now
[01:29] <Orioa> i love irssi
[01:30] <Orioa> i'm thinking i may return to it
[07:29] <gzoo> Hi. I don't know why, but I feel like disabling clicking on Desktop while having shift pressed down opening the application menu.
[07:29] <gzoo> Googled just a bit but couldn't find it
[07:50] <xubuntu20w> I have a problem with 15.10
[07:51] <xubuntu20w> the screen flickers and makes all the gui on screen become mumbled what could be the course even after ensuring that i have all drivers properly updated
[08:11] <totus> hello
[08:12] <totus> I have a cdrom-drive broken
[08:12] <totus> and maybe unbootable-usb bios
[08:13] <totus> anyone can tell me which one is the Wubi?
[08:14] <well_laid_lawn> !wubi
[08:14] <well_laid_lawn> !install
[08:14] <totus> ok
[08:14] <totus> I saw grub2win
[08:15] <totus> but that mad of hal.dll!!!
[08:15] <totus> is there
[08:15] <well_laid_lawn> you could use a virtual machine
[08:16] <totus> to slow here
[08:16] <totus> so the latest is ubu 11
[08:16] <totus> with wubi
[08:16] <well_laid_lawn> and that's not supported anymore
[08:16] <totus> I ask if there is lubuntu with ....
[08:16] <well_laid_lawn> too old
[08:17] <totus> I must keep win because of wifi
[08:17] <totus> something already worked by old-releases
[08:17] <well_laid_lawn> all versions of ubuntu are the same ecept for the graphics environment
[08:17] <totus> but cant install permanently
[08:17] <totus> and squashfs became root.filesystem
[08:18] <totus> so tried to do > dd if=/dev/loop0 of=/dev/sda5
[08:19] <totus> doesnt work
[08:19] <totus> is it possible with ddrescue or gddrescue?
[08:25] <well_laid_lawn> maybe
[08:25] <well_laid_lawn> ymmv
[08:27] <totus> anyway I understand the why of this dismission of Wubi
[08:28] <totus> there is no way to readdress the iso from the web!
[08:35] <Name141> Does 15.10 have any brand spanking new something something that is worth messing with vs LTS?
[13:19] <sim642> Is it possible to have xubuntu automatically create a wifi hotspot when it logs in?
[13:19] <sim642> I need this for headless operation
[13:31] <knob> sim642, I would go with "ubuntu", as you will get more results in google. If Ubuntu can do it, I would bet that Xubuntu can.
[16:50] <sim642> knob, I know that, but doesn't xubuntu have something different regarding how the network thing works or do they use all the same?
[16:53] <knome> sim642, no, in that regard you will find very little difference
[17:02] <melwyn> hi. i am running xubuntu (xfce) on my ativ book with the resolution 1920x1080 (native: 3200x1600) and try to check once in a while if there is a better hidpi support on other distros/DEs or a new xfce nowadays. but i always stumble upon apps that won't scale well (e.g. rdp connect to a windows host). most of the time i dump the new OS after a few days/hours and get back to xfce with the "fake" resolution. what are your experiences wi
[17:03] <melwyn> * or settings would you recommend
[17:05] <knome> melwyn, try the Greybird-hdpi and -xhdpi themes
[17:08] <melwyn> knome: cheers. i will give it a try
[18:38] <xubuntu924> Hello, do you know how to make backup of xubuntu settings before ill try to install my nvidia optimus drivers?
[18:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages
[18:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> That should be helpful.
[18:40] <xubuntu924> thanks ;D
[18:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You are welcome.
[19:06] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Does anybody know if Wayland is on the roadmap for Xubuntu?
[19:07] <flocculant> it isn't at the moment
[19:07] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ok.
[19:07] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Thanks for the answer.
[19:08] <flocculant> welcome
[19:09] <flocculant> JohnnyComeL8ly: that said people in the xubuntu team might be looking personally
[19:09] <flocculant> but it's not being looked at currently - which means not for 16.04
[19:11] * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[19:11] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ok, I was just curious because it seemed like the libs that Xubuntu depends on, Clutter being one of them (correct me if I'm wrong), supports Wayland compositing.
[19:11] <flocculant> :)
[19:12] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Btw, this is where I saw that....
[19:12] <JohnnyComeL8ly> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clutter_%28software%29#Supported_platforms
[19:15] <mozmck> Is there a utility in xubuntu to make bootable usb thumbdrives from an ISO?
[19:16] <flocculant> I install and use gnome-disk-utility
[19:20] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I don't see one, but I use easy to boot.
[19:21] <JohnnyComeL8ly> http://www.easy2boot.com/make-an-easy2boot-usb-drive/make-using-linux/
[19:21] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I like it a lot.
[19:21] <JohnnyComeL8ly> It is really easy to use.
[19:23] <mozmck> I normally run linux mint, and they make things like this trivial and built in. Right click any ISO and there is a menu option to "Make bootable usb stick".
[19:26] <JohnnyComeL8ly> mozmck: Well, sorry you've got this issue.
[19:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> But, I can confirm how easy it is to use E2B.
[19:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You see, I'm not a terminal guru, but they have it documented very well.
[19:28] <mozmck> JohnnyComeL8ly: well, the link you sent doesn't look like it's even relevant? I want to put the Xubuntu ISO on a thumbdrive so that it is bootable.
[19:29] <mozmck> In Linux Mint it is absolutely trivial, and I remember there being a very easy program in ubuntu years ago as well. Just pick an ISO and then pick the USB drive to put it on.
[19:30] <JohnnyComeL8ly> It is relevant... you set up the drive, and then all you have to do is drop the ISOs on there.
[19:30] <flocculant> mozmck: ubuntu start disk creator - which has some problems atm - so I use gnome-disk-utility to do it
[19:31] <flocculant> use it to restore the iso image to the usb
[19:33] <JohnnyComeL8ly> This way you can have many ISOs on one drive and you don't have to use "multiboot" or YUMI
[19:33] <mozmck> JohnnyComeL8ly: ok, that is not clear in that link. Thanks. I did just find Unetbootin and usb-creator.
[19:34] <mozmck> All I want is a thumb drive people can boot from directly and install xubuntu
[19:36] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Well, this isn' t that.... ;-)
[19:36] <mozmck> Looks like gnome-disk-utility may be the easiest - thanks flocculant
[19:41] <flocculant> mozmck: there are fixes planned for usb creator - temporary removal of the persistence option - which seems to be causing problems for many
[19:41] <mozmck> I see. Maybe you just just import Mintstick :-)
[19:41] <flocculant> mozmck: and the disk utility basically uses dd to do the thing afaik
[19:42] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm thinking you're right, flocculant.
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-uk
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[05:25] <daftykins> windows 7 will no longer be allowed to be sold on PCs as of October 31st 2016
[05:27] <mapps> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yszTYz_YznE
[05:28] <mapps> :
[05:28] <mapps> D
[05:28] <mapps> there's eng subs also
[06:12] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:25] <knightwise> hey everyone
[07:26] <mapps> hey knightwise
[07:27] <knightwise> hey mapps, how are you :)
[07:27] <mapps> not bad pal
[07:28] <mapps> got internet again finally!
[07:28] <mapps> had it for a week then it died;9
[07:34] <knightwise> you fell off the broadband planet ?
[07:36] <mapps> yea:P
[07:37] <mapps> now im back in the game
[07:37] <mapps> my tv uses my internet.i get sky/uk chans/beIN:D
[07:41] <mapps> like Sergei Lahov said " if it looks like a terrorist, if it walks like a terrorist , if it soeaks like a terorist -- it's a terrosit"
[08:50] <czajkowski> Aloha
[08:52] <MooDoo> howdy
[09:07] <mapps> so many spies
[09:07] <mapps> people ask of my facebook and twitter
[09:08] <mapps> but its wothless to most - i speak russian on facebook and twitter is 50/50
[09:09] <mapps> no use for them at all:D
[09:12] <ali1234> I'm going to buy a USB 3.1 card. should I buy one with type A ports or type C ports?
[09:15] <SuperMatt> well nothing uses type c yet, but you may need it in the future
[09:15] <ali1234> but i can just use an adapter right?
[09:15] <SuperMatt> I have no idea
[09:15] <ali1234> by the time type C stuff is common i will probably have a new computer with type C ports
[09:17] <SuperMatt> I remember that it took an age just for usb to take off, so give it about 5 years, and then you'll need something with a type c connector
[09:17] <SuperMatt> (please bear in mind that I could be very very wrong)
[09:28] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:29] <MooDoo> howdy davmor2
[09:33] * zmoylan-pi remembers all the usb ports on 486 systems for years before win95b staggered along and started using them... ;-)
[09:36] <ali1234> USB 1.0...
[09:37] <zmoylan-pi> of course by then i had a super cheap pc so i needed to find a pci card to add usb ports to my amd k6-2 system...
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> but when my boss spent a fortune on a 128mb usb drive it became the most used bit of hardware in the office overnight
[09:41] <davmor2> and this is the monstrosity of a song stuck in my head this morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6samPEMpM
[09:41] <SuperMatt> 128M? I couldn't even fit my po^H^H photos on there
[09:41] <zmoylan-pi> even if i had to install drivers for every pc in the office to use it from a zip drive/cd
[09:41] <zmoylan-pi> last week i picked up a 64gb for €25
[09:42] <davmor2> SuperMatt: You have photos of pooh, what about tigger and piglet?
[09:42] <zmoylan-pi> impulse purchase at newsagents...
[09:42] <zmoylan-pi> don't be silly, he's not interested in silly antics of tigger and piglet
[09:51] <SuperMatt> you don't know me!
[09:53] * zmoylan-pi would have put you down as an eeyore fan... :-)
[09:55] <SuperMatt> is it because I'm so depressed?
[09:55] <zmoylan-pi> who doesn't like a good donkey?
[09:59] <SuperMatt> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oholah_and_Oholibah
[10:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Sandwich Day! 😃
[10:21] <davmor2> JamesTait: I present you with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s
[10:21] <davmor2> the worlds worst sandwich I doubt even popey would eat one
[10:23] <JamesTait> Vegemite!
[10:24] <popey> Ooh! Good idea. Marmite for breakfast
[10:25] <zmoylan-pi> beetroot sandwiches ::spits::
[10:25] <davmor2> popey: Vegemite is like Marmite evil twin
[10:25] <popey> meh
[10:25] <SuperMatt> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/132464560327/sneaking-a-bottle-of-water-into-the-datacenter
[10:25] <davmor2> popey: it's even worse when you don't like Marmite trust me
[10:27] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:27] <JamesTait> davmor2, how can yo not like Marmite? 😝
[10:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: Well it starts with having tastebuds
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> choosing not to eat something that was designed to use up the waste from another industrial process...
[10:31] <JamesTait> So, you don't like crunchy bites either?
[10:32] <zmoylan-pi> if i want crunchy i'll chuck a few rashers on my sandwich like god didn't intend :-)
[10:33] <MooDoo> :)
[10:37] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: if god didn't intend it he wouldn't of made pigs from bacon ;)
[10:37] <foobarry> marmite is just matured earwax
[10:40] <mapps> i need someone to block betfair
[10:40] <mapps> make me a script i can install
[10:40] * mapps is an addict
[10:41] <zmoylan-pi> add it to block list on your router?
[10:41] <mapps> but i can bypas it
[10:41] <mapps> i know i have a problem that why i ask
[10:42] <mapps> i wont be posting on instagram or facebuuk
[10:42] <mapps> im struggling
[10:43] <MooDoo> you're technical, no matter what we suggest, you'll know how to bypass it
[10:43] <zmoylan-pi> ^this
[10:43] <mapps> true
[10:43] <mapps> what ca i do
[10:44] <zmoylan-pi> gamblers anonymous?
[10:44] <mapps> never
[10:45] <mapps> im a loser sure - i just need some help
[10:45] <zmoylan-pi> isn't it better to talk with people who have dealt with the same problem?
[10:45] <mapps> basically
[10:46] <mapps> hsbc an barclays told me i cant get anymore credit
[10:46] <zmoylan-pi> there are councillors who could help 1 on 1 but more expensive
[10:46] <mapps> and ive been gambling it all away
[10:46] <davmor2> mapps: you just need a script that plays this every time you go to the site https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE
[10:47] <mapps> i owe 27.5k to mbna
[10:47] <mapps> and 15k to hsbc
[10:47] <mapps> every month
[10:48] <mapps> i hope for a good month..and lose it all
[10:48] <zmoylan-pi> you know this to be true, that gambling got you into this hole and it is not going to get you out
[10:48] <mapps> i had £1900 on chelea to get me out of thi
[10:48] <mapps> and it didnt
[10:48] <MooDoo> Citizens advice bureua, that's all I can advise really
[10:49] <zmoylan-pi> ^this
[10:49] <davmor2> mapps: serious you need to get help
[10:49] <mapps> i know
[10:49] <zmoylan-pi> they are there to help. looking for help here is a sign you want to change but you need to talk to people who can offer more than ideas and moral support
[10:49] <mapps> i cant cope much more with repayments
[10:50] <davmor2> mapps: no you don't need to shrug it off with I know, you need to go get help!
[10:50] <mapps> i have to pay about 2500 a month on debts
[10:51] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:51] <mapps> hey bigcalm
[10:51] <zmoylan-pi> i was paying about €500 a month around 2000, could barely make those payment. took a few years to dig myself out of debt
[10:51] <bigcalm> o/
[10:51] <mapps> yea i can pay just
[10:53] <zmoylan-pi> you just have to try and add a few extra bob every 2nd month and after a few months you'll see the monthly payments start to decrease till every month you have a little more. of course you have to stop the outgoings
[10:53] <mapps> im not a stupid guy -- it just went all wrong
[10:54] <zmoylan-pi> people who are addicts are not fools, they're just vulnerable to bad ideas they know are bad
[10:55] <mapps> but i have them all?
[10:55] <mapps> i smoke..i drin..i gamble
[10:55] <zmoylan-pi> “The mind commands the body and is instantly obeyed. The mind commands itself and meets resistance.”
[10:56] <mapps> i need uni again
[10:57] <mapps> at uni i was less bad
[10:57] <zmoylan-pi> you need to go and live on an island were there's no drink, tobacco or gambling. but that's not an option. you have to be that island
[10:57] <mapps> yea
[10:57] <zmoylan-pi> the only one who can stop you is you
[10:58] <mapps> agreed
[10:58] <foobarry> and also accept that ulmtimately you lose with galmbling
[10:58] * bashrc wonders if he accidentally subscribed to #philosophy
[10:58] <foobarry> cut losses and run away
[10:58] <zmoylan-pi> but always remember callahans law, 'shared pain lessens, shared joy increases, thus we refute entropy'
[10:59] <foobarry> my local screen session is laggy :(
[10:59] <mapps> irritating mbna gave me a limit of £25k what happened
[10:59] <mapps> i blew most of it
[10:59] <zmoylan-pi> be happy they didn't give you a bigger limit
[10:59] <mapps> i used to be so happy before
[10:59] <foobarry> do gamblers ever quit by themselves?
[11:00] <foobarry> most need external help i expect
[11:00] <mapps> its this damn gamblin
[11:00] <zmoylan-pi> probably, but they would be the rareity
[11:01] <mapps> im lucky
[11:01] <mapps> ina way
[11:01] <zmoylan-pi> not at the moment you're not
[11:01] <mapps> my dad transferred my rent money
[11:01] <zmoylan-pi> dependng on luck is a sure way to failure as it will run out
[11:01] <mapps> to his account
[11:02] <mapps> because again
[11:02] <mapps> my rents £1200
[11:02] <mapps> i just manage t
[11:02] <zmoylan-pi> can you find somewhere cheaper to live?
[11:02] * mapps slaps NET||abu- around a bit with a large trout
[11:02] <mapps> sorry]
[11:02] <mapps> in spain yea
[11:02] <zmoylan-pi> even if you switched to e-cigs rather than smoking it would save a bundle
[11:03] <mapps> but i dont want to
[11:03] <zmoylan-pi> yes you do, you complained about it earlier
[11:03] <mapps> i have a drink problem too though
[11:03] <zmoylan-pi> you might see it as the lesser of drinking and gambling but you still mentioned it
[11:03] <Laney> is it possible to buy radiator valves (or something) which Nest can use to only heat the room I'm in?
[11:03] <mapps> so i wanna be close to work]
[11:03] <Laney> irritating heating the whole house when I'm only in one room all day
[11:04] <zmoylan-pi> i just wear heavier jumpers laney :-)
[11:04] <mapps> it all went downhilll 12 years ago
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> and only you can turn it around mapps
[11:05] <mapps> i have no excuse now its me
[11:05] <mapps> yea
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> but you CAN get better
[11:05] <ali1234> hey laney
[11:05] <ali1234> were your lights flickering this morning?
[11:06] <Laney> hi ali1234
[11:06] <Laney> creepy question...
[11:06] <mapps> unlikely innit:)
[11:06] <Laney> don't think so
[11:06] <mapps> il bloody sort this out and then drop dead zmoylan-pi
[11:06] <zmoylan-pi> mapps: only unlikely if you do nothing
[11:06] <ali1234> mine were. about 7:30 to 8:00
[11:07] <zmoylan-pi> maybe but then you won't owe a penny to nobody mapps and that feels wonderful, trust me on that
[11:07] <ali1234> must just be the substation
[11:07] <ali1234> or my fuse box
[11:08] <mapps> i hope so zmoylan-p
[11:08] <mapps> but
[11:08] * zmoylan-pi remembers going to post office to pay last credit bill last bit of dosh i owed... :-)
[11:08] <mapps> it wont hapen for m
[11:08] <mapps> m
[11:08] <davmor2> ali1234: pfff Laney is still in bed coding now you don't think he is up at that ungodly hour do you ;)
[11:08] <mapps> me damn
[11:08] <zmoylan-pi> it can and will if you set your mind to it mapps
[11:08] <mapps> never ill sadly
[11:09] <zmoylan-pi> only if you refuse to let yourself from helping yourself mapps
[11:09] <mapps> ive been here 14 months noones come to see me
[11:09] <zmoylan-pi> contact gamblers anonymous, what's the worst that could happen?
[11:09] <zmoylan-pi> an hour or two away from temptation?
[11:10] <zmoylan-pi> well loneliness is the cause of many problems
[11:10] <mapps> i just have no friends or family sadly
[11:10] <zmoylan-pi> try ga, you might make friends there
[11:10] <zmoylan-pi> friends who are in the same boat you are
[11:12] <mapps> i try and do my spanish learning
[11:13] <mapps> but i get bored:(
[11:13] <zmoylan-pi> get out, meet people, the more time you are out of the house the less time you have to go online and gamble
[11:14] <zmoylan-pi> 1) today find were the gambling addict resources near you are, 2) tomorrow is about working up the courage to go. but today concentrate on (1)
[11:14] <zmoylan-pi> little steps
[11:15] <mapps> i agree
[11:15] <mapps> i assume its little little in gib
[11:16] <zmoylan-pi> military base nearby, i'd suspect not
[11:17] <mapps> man i suck..my spanish is bad.my russians bad...all i do is hold a job down
[11:17] <zmoylan-pi> that's a start
[11:17] <zmoylan-pi> now build on it
[11:17] <mapps> :D
[11:18] <zmoylan-pi> of course the first castle might fall over and catch fire in the swamp but keep going :-)
[11:18] <mapps> lol
[11:19] <zmoylan-pi> right time for me to head to library to try and get distraction free zone to learn python... o/
[11:22] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: Oh that's easy, it's hiss, hiss, hiss, hiiiiissssss, hiss, hiss, hissssssssssssss
[11:23] <zmoylan-pi> i thought that was asp for 'bite you where?!'
[12:24] <Gary> Hey, how is everyone!
[12:29] <mapps> hi friend
[12:30] <Gary> how have things been in #ubuntu-uk land?
[12:42] <mapps> not bad
[12:42] <mapps> :D
[12:43] <MooDoo> :)
[13:00] <foobarry> does firefox not restore previous session by default any more?
[13:06] <foobarry> ah, foudn it
[13:25] <diddledan_> morning
[13:28] <MooDoo> morning
[13:29] <Azelphur> omg...I just found an amazing button on my new monitors
[13:29] <Azelphur> they support 4xPBP 2k...I could emulate 16 2k monitors o.O
[13:30] <popey> blimey
[13:31] <Azelphur> I think the 2k is downscaled to 1080 though, so it's a little pixelated
[13:31] <Azelphur> but yea, if I had a mountain of GPUs and used DP + 3x HDMI, I could have 16 "monitors"
[13:31] <Azelphur> this would kick ass with a synergy setup and multiple machines though
[13:32] <diddledan_> isn't 1920x1080 2k anyway?
[13:32] <Azelphur> diddledan_: people generally refer to 1440p as 2k, but yea I can see your point
[14:31] <Azelphur> Hmm, I am running backups on my machine, I have the program doing the backups set to nice -n 19 ionice -c3, yet the whole machine continually goes really slow, like 15+ seconds to load a terminal sometimes. Load average is like >9, any ideas?
[14:42] <daftykins> i spotted a £150 IPS HannsG 2560x1440 today for someone, could be neat if they read their email... :>
[14:43] <daftykins> oh 27" too
[14:51] <lopta> Azelphur: What are you using to backup your machine? What software and backup medium?
[14:51] <Azelphur> lopta: attic
[14:52] <Azelphur> and a local server
[14:53] <lopta> Azelphur: Over gigabit Ethernet?
[14:53] <Azelphur> 100
[14:53] <daftykins> eww
[14:53] <lopta> I'm not familiar with Attic.
[14:53] <daftykins> Azelphur: nice 8 port gigabit switch on amazon black friday for £14 today :P
[14:53] <daftykins> Netgear one
[14:54] <Azelphur> daftykins: black friday? wat that's not till later this month
[14:54] <daftykins> actually it's weeks long now
[14:54] <daftykins> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AWM7PKO
[14:56] <Azelphur> daftykins: stuck it on my purse wishlist, I get it for £7 :P
[14:56] <daftykins> ^_^ what on earth is a purse wishlist o0
[14:56] <Azelphur> daftykins: basically I set up a wishlist on Amazon, I list it on purse and say "I'll pay you X BTC if you buy this stuff for me"
[14:57] <Azelphur> X BTC is generally between 50-80% of the value of the items
[14:57] <daftykins> oh ok
[14:57] <daftykins> you and your funny money ;D
[14:57] <Azelphur> :)
[14:57] <Azelphur> my funny money is going nuts atm
[14:58] <daftykins> again?
[14:58] <daftykins> what's especially funny about me saying that is normally it's Guernsey bank notes getting laughed at
[14:58] <Azelphur> yup, gone up almost $100 in the past few days
[14:58] <daftykins> is that a standard original or some kind of sub-named variant once more?
[14:59] <Azelphur> wat
[14:59] <daftykins> all the *coin names they spun off
[15:00] <Azelphur> you mean is purse an altcoin? no it's a service that uses Bitcoin
[15:00] <Azelphur> I don't really buy into the whole altcoin thing
[15:01] <daftykins> nah the current value gaining coin type you're referring to
[15:02] <Azelphur> nope, that's plain old Bitcoin
[15:02] <daftykins> ah ok :>
[15:02] <Azelphur> http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg10ztgTzm1g10zm2g25 it's a good day to be holding Bitcoin :P
[15:21] <awilkins> Wowzer
[15:21] <awilkins> I was going to buy some last week
[15:24] <ali1234> did it break 400 yet?
[15:24] <foobarry> sell now!
[15:26] <ali1234> i already sold today
[15:28] <Azelphur> ali1234: my boss is getting screwed by this it's kinda funny, he didn't pay me on time yet still owes me BTC @ $254
[15:28] <Azelphur> last time I calculated it was like $1300 this is gonna cost him
[15:30] <daftykins> :D
[15:35] <foobarry> what job do u do Azelphur
[15:35] <Azelphur> foobarry: I'm a developer
[16:40] <diddledan_> people are moaning about linus again: http://news.softpedia.com/news/linus-torvalds-attacks-the-work-of-kernel-developer-with-hash-language-again-495636.shtml
[16:41] <bigcalm> Is he turning into RMS? Required but ignored
[16:42] <jpds> diddledan_: People clearly don't know enough about writing good code
[16:43] <daftykins> i see folk wanting to follow the UOS from the comfort of their fine FOSS distro are coming up against requiring the flash player?
[16:43] <daftykins> is the irony there wasted on anyone? :D
[16:45] <bashrc> I think that's the problem of all dictatorships. Once a project gets big I think who is doing the maintaining should be subject to vote
[16:45] <zmoylan-pi> he produces code AND administers a huge important software project. he comes from a culture were they use all the words
[16:45] <bashrc> by his own admission, I don't think linus writes kernel code anymore
[16:46] <daftykins> yeah i read he doesn't write
[16:47] <zmoylan-pi> if he's personally reviewing the code patches submitted then he is producing code as he judges it
[16:47] <bashrc> reviewing patches != writing code
[16:48] <zmoylan-pi> it is to my mind
[16:48] <zmoylan-pi> he is adding something
[16:48] <bashrc> he's acting as an editor
[16:48] <zmoylan-pi> it's like the -2000 lines of code... http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.txt&sub=HN0
[16:49] <bashrc> as a developer and reviewer myself I can say it's much easier to criticise code in review than to write it
[16:49] <zmoylan-pi> true but i still would let him have his rant if he wishes
[16:50] <bashrc> submitting even a one line patch can sometimes take a lot of research
[16:50] <zmoylan-pi> some of the hardest edits i have done to code has resulted in 1 day = 1 line of code
[16:56] <daftykins> ugh a client wants to drive 2 x 2560x1440 res screens from a laptop and wants me to find one with a budget of £300-400
[16:56] <daftykins> what a joke!
[16:57] <zmoylan-pi> some fresnel a4 sized lens stuck to a chromebook... :-)
[17:02] <daftykins> he's honestly dreaming
[17:03] <zmoylan-pi> or inserting the earbuds too deep... :-)
[17:14] <popey> I know someone who used to use a fresnel lens while playing flight sims
[17:18] <mapp> sheesh
[17:18] <zmoylan-pi> they used to sell them in 60s to make your tv bigger
[17:18] <mapp> this traslating is tough
[17:30] <daftykins> well well, displayport multistream hubs seem to be the trick - http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-DisplayPort-Multi-Stream-Transport/dp/B00XXPYGPO/
[17:34] <diddledan_> o_O
[17:35] <daftykins> beats buying displays with the two sockets built in
[17:36] <daftykins> Azelphur: you haven't got an 'xrandr' kicking around for your new toys have you? :)
[17:48] <zmoylan-pi> that pesky word unlimited strikes again... http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/microsoft-drops-unlimited-onedrive-storage-after-people-use-it-for-unlimited-storage/
[17:49] <diddledan_> aye
[17:49] <diddledan_> I saw that a little while ago
[17:49] <diddledan_> they've also made apple icloud a cheaper option for storage on windows than microsoft's own offering
[17:49] <zmoylan-pi> every time that happens they should administer beatings to the marketing department to make it not happen again... :-P
[17:53] <diddledan_> oldie to newbie: "don't ever end up like fred".. newbie: "why what happened to fred?" oldie: "he used the word 'unlimited'. he was seen going into the ceo's office and he never came out..."
[18:23] <Azelphur> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13093671/
[18:25] <daftykins> ty sir
[19:17] <diddledan_> I wonder what OS apple use in their datacentres?
[19:18] <diddledan_> would be silly to use OS X because that's not a server OS and windows is made by a rival so they'd not want to use that and linux is not OS X so they won't want to use that
[19:19] <diddledan_> maybe they'll use the bsd userland on top of mach but not the full os x
[19:19] <diddledan_> i.e. no gfx
[19:19] <diddledan_> no desktop etc.
[19:28] <daftykins> a mate who works for them in London told me most of their gear used to be run from mac minis =|
[19:28] <daftykins> cringe++
[19:29] <marshmn> hi all; I just upgraded from 15.04 -> 15.10, but it's no longer booting into graphical environment :(
[19:29] <diddledan_> daftykins: http://www.macminicolo.net/
[19:29] <daftykins> marshmn: tried appending 'nomodeset' to kernel boot params?
[19:29] <daftykins> your drivers might have been killed
[19:29] <daftykins> (if you need any)
[19:29] <marshmn> original install was ubuntugnome
[19:29] <marshmn> daftykins: ok, will try
[19:29] <marshmn> machine is Dell XPS 15 laptop
[19:32] <marshmn> is the correct way to append that to hit 'e' at the grub menu?
[19:32] <marshmn> and then add it to the bottom of the list in the editor it gives me?
[19:32] <marshmn> then hit F10?
[19:32] <diddledan_> if you do that you need to find the right line
[19:33] <diddledan_> it'll start with "linux"
[19:33] <marshmn> is there an easier way?
[19:34] <daftykins> nope
[19:34] <daftykins> it's a manual edit.
[19:34] <daftykins> ah yeah that sounds like the one with the nvidia graphics
[19:35] <marshmn> it has Nvidia and IntelHD
[19:35] <marshmn> TBH, I thought I was only using the intel chipset
[19:35] <daftykins> yeah optimus machine
[19:35] <marshmn> so, add 'nomodeset' to the end of the linux line after hitting e?
[19:35] <marshmn> and then just hit F10?
[19:37] <daftykins> where it says 'quiet splash' , add it before or after
[19:37] <daftykins> yep F10 or ctrl+x i think
[19:38] <marshmn> ok, so I've done that - now I just get a blank screen
[19:38] <marshmn> I get the ubuntu logo with animated dots first
[19:39] <marshmn> then after a few seconds blank screen
[19:39] <marshmn> before adding that, it was dumping me out to console mode with messages
[19:39] <marshmn> but now just blank screen
[19:39] <diddledan_> some may remember I moaned about a wonky 24inch monitor - turns out that some of the capacitors in the power supply were bulging so it may be just a case of replacing those to fix it - Dad's ordered some so we'll see.
[19:41] <marshmn> if I take that back out, so that I can get back to the messages it gives on the console, it gets as far as "[OK] Reached target Basic System."
[19:41] <marshmn> then the next line looks garbled:
[19:41] <daftykins> marshmn: so you got a working TTY?
[19:41] <daftykins> diddledan_: :D i like those fixes
[19:42] <marshmn> "[OK] Started LSB: Tool to automatically collect and submit kernel crash signatures....ut down.....
[19:42] <daftykins> my brother stubbornly ignored my advice on checking ebay for even a full straight up PSU swap
[19:42] <marshmn> daftykins: I can get to a working TTY with Ctrl+F1
[19:42] <marshmn> well, F2
[19:42] <daftykins> ah ok, log in and do a "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[19:42] <daftykins> see if any are installed at all
[19:43] <marshmn> yes, there are a few things for that
[19:43] <marshmn> such as nvidia-346
[19:43] <daftykins> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[19:43] <daftykins> then reboot
[19:43] <daftykins> oh
[19:43] <daftykins> check there's no /etc/X11/xorg.conf before reboot too
[19:46] <marshmn> there is xorg.conf.0
[19:46] <marshmn> should I leave that or remove?
[19:46] <daftykins> nah that one is ok
[19:47] <daftykins> as long as /etc/X11/xorg.conf itself doesn't exist, that should be set - so reboot now
[19:47] <marshmn> ok, rebooting
[19:47] <marshmn> hard to work in console mode on a 4k screen :/
[19:47] <marshmn> still same on reboot
[19:48] <marshmn> same console output as I wrote above
[19:48] <marshmn> oh, no, actually
[19:48] <marshmn> it seemed to get beyond target "System Initialization"
[19:48] <marshmn> is that before or after "Basic System"?
[19:49] <marshmn> last message before garbled line is now "[OK] Listening on CUPS Scheduler"
[19:51] <daftykins> hmm
[19:51] <daftykins> and nothing from all ctrl+alt+Fx combos? F1 through F12 that is
[19:52] <marshmn> I see normal TTY login prompts on F1 through to F6
[19:52] <marshmn> on F7 I just see the console output
[19:52] <marshmn> nothing else
[19:53] <daftykins> does that thing have wired LAN?
[19:53] <diddledan_> Xorg.log?
[19:53] <daftykins> or a USB adapter capable of
[19:53] <daftykins> yeah Xorg log or lightdm troubleshooting would be next i'd think
[19:54] <daftykins> if you can get it online i'd "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[19:54] <marshmn> I have a USB network adapter if need be
[19:55] <daftykins> yeah that should work
[19:56] <marshmn> actually, wifi still appears to work
[19:56] <marshmn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13094447/
[19:57] <daftykins> weird, assuming that log is dated with a sensible timestamp to be right now, that seems to have come up just fine
[19:58] <marshmn> how can I tell whether I'm using gdm or lightdm?
[19:58] <marshmn> and is it worth me trying the other, whichever it is?
[20:00] <daftykins> hmm i forget the file that suggests it, no idea what gnome uses
[20:01] <daftykins> you could check for running services and see which one is up
[20:01] <marshmn> gdm is running
[20:01] <marshmn> lightdm is not
[20:01] <daftykins> probably depends now how much time you want to put in, could keep digging into logs or just nuke it with a clean 15.10 and restore your /home from backup if it's not on a separate partition
[20:01] <marshmn> is that likely to work?
[20:02] <daftykins> if a 15.10 live session works yeah, it's probably just the upgrade that's gone nuts
[20:02] <marshmn> :/
[20:02] <daftykins> might not hurt to ensure it fully completed with a "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade"
[20:02] <marshmn> I guess I'll have to download that and try it
[20:02] <marshmn> how can I try lightdm?
[20:02] <marshmn> (just in case)
[20:02] <daftykins> i don't think that'd be a worthy approach
[20:02] <marshmn> ok
[20:03] <daftykins> now nouveau is back in use instead of nvidia proprietary, nomodeset might be of more use again too
[20:03] <marshmn> so maybe try that again? ok
[20:04] <marshmn> nope, no dice
[20:04] <marshmn> just blank screen with that again
[20:05] <marshmn> I didn't really want to have to start from scratch since I'd gotten everything set up nicely how I want it :/
[20:05] <marshmn> but if that's what I have to do then I guess I have no choice
[20:05] <diddledan_> most of the config will be in your home folder so if you retain that you should only have to reinstall any extra applications
[20:05] <daftykins> ^
[20:06] <daftykins> it could be a 15.10 kernel + optimus quirk
[20:06] <daftykins> my experience level definitely isn't high enough to troubleshoot properly
[20:06] * daftykins pats Windows and ducks
[20:06] <diddledan_> windows ftw?
[20:07] <daftykins> well, i think all OSs suck equally still :D
[20:07] <marshmn> I didn't really care too much about getting 15.10 - I only upgraded because it prompted me to :/
[20:07] <marshmn> wish I'd not bothered...
[20:08] <marshmn> now I've just made myself a world of pain
[20:09] <daftykins> i shall avoid speaking of backups so i don't get a sharp jab to the side :>
[20:09] <marshmn> I have backups, that's not an issue
[20:09] <marshmn> but still, I now need to download 15.10 image
[20:09] * diddledan_ pokes daftykins with a pokey thing
[20:09] <diddledan_> pokey poke poke
[20:09] <marshmn> next issue is that I don't have a USB stick to hand to put it on
[20:10] <marshmn> so it might be 24 hours before I get it all sorted
[20:10] <daftykins> yeah if i were upgrading and had the time i'd probably clonezilla disk image a machine prior :)
[20:10] <daftykins> then it'd just be a case of throwing it back on and it'd be like travelling back in time
[20:12] <marshmn> thanks for your help anyway
[20:14] <daftykins> np :)
[20:15] <marshmn> I'll just sulk & play some Go for now and deal with it later :)
[20:37] <marshmn> daftykins: switching to lightdm seems to have fixed it :)
[20:37] <daftykins> bit weird o0
[20:37] <daftykins> you may want the nvidia driver back on ultimately too
[20:38] <marshmn> yea
[20:39] <daftykins> nvidia-352 being the newest in 15.10 repos
[20:39] <daftykins> i think
[20:44] <foobarry> xubuntu users based in EU: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3r9f52/looking_for_xubuntu_users_for_academic_research/
[20:44] <foobarry> get paid to xubuntu/xfce
[20:44] <ali1234> sidi is a cool guy
[20:45] <ali1234> but you have to use chromium
[20:48] <foobarry> know anyone who might be interested?
[20:48] <foobarry> can't remember the xfce users in here
[20:48] <ali1234> only me
[20:48] <ali1234> but... i don't want to use chromium
[20:49] <awilkins> There's a -355 version of the nvidia driver in a PPA
[20:50] <foobarry> marshmn had the black screen lightdm problem?
[20:51] <foobarry> i had that today and fixed it, but might be different scenario
[20:51] <marshmn> I had an issue when using gdm - on upgrade to 15.10 with gdm it was failing to switch into graphical mode
[20:51] <marshmn> switching from gdm to lightdm seems to have resolved that
[20:53] <foobarry> ah ok. there were lots of words, didn't read them all
[20:54] <foobarry> doing a market research survey that asks about interesting tech startups - anyone think of any new small ones?
[20:55] <ali1234> there's so many that i can't think of one
[21:03] <foobarry> :)
[21:15] <daftykins> just murdered my first mince pie of the season :D
[21:22] <diddledan_> :-o
[21:22] <diddledan_> far too early!
[21:22] <diddledan_> next thing you'll be eating xmas pud
[21:27] * daftykins drops a spoon
[21:27] * diddledan_ spoons
[23:02] <ali1234> wow, a patch i sent to AOSP got pulled after 2 years :)
[23:02] <ali1234> i totally forgot about it
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-de
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[01:23] <Abe> hallo alle zusammen
[01:26] <k1l> nabend
[08:45] <jokrebel> ich habe einem Starter auf dem Desktop den "Befehl" xterm zugeordnet. Wenn ich den jetzt anklicke öffnet sich auch brav das Terminal. Kann man diesem Befehl auch noch etwas hinzufügen? Dass nach dem öffnen des Terminals gleich zB. top (oder auch andere Befehle) ausgeführt wird.
[08:46] <jokrebel> Mit "einfach dahniterschreiben" klappt es jedenfalls nicht. Dann öffnet sich nicht mal mehr das leere Terminal.
[08:46] <frostschutz> was meinst du mit einfach dahinterschreiben?
[08:51] <tuor> jokrebel, wenn das terminal die option unterstuetzt. ZB.: urxvt -e top
[08:51] <tuor> Das ding ist dann aber, dass es wenn du top beendest gleich wieder schliesst.
[08:52] <tuor> mit xterm gehts genauso.
[08:53] <jokrebel> tuor: Ah cool. Danke
[08:53] <tuor> jokrebel, gerne.
[09:11] <frostschutz> wenn du einen befehl hast der sich gleich beendet, das terminal aber offen bleiben soll (um die ausgabe länger anzuzeigen), gibts auch noch -hold
[10:08] <tuor> Hi, gibt es ein Programm zum erstellen von verschluesselten Archiven, welches open source ist und auf Linux(Ubuntu) & Windows 7 & OSX laeuft? (Prioritaet der OS falls es die nicht gibt: Ubuntu > Windows > OSX)
[10:09] <ppq> tuor, 7zip
[10:10] <tuor> Ah ok. Danke.
[10:10] <ppq> alternativ: verschlüsseln und packen aufteilen. dann kannst du alles mögliche nutzen
[10:10] <ppq> aber 7zip ist schon praktischer, so als all in one lösung
[10:12] <tuor> OK, kann man damit vielleicht sogar Archive oeffnen und bearbeiten, ohne sie zu entpacken (keine temporaere Kopie der Daten in unverschluesselter Form auf der Festplatte)?
[10:15] <ppq> keine ahnung, musst mal ausprobieren
[10:15] <ppq> vermutung: nein
[10:16] <ppq> wenn dir das wichtig ist, schau dir mal diesen truecrypt nachfolger an, veracrypt oder wie das hieß
[10:16] <ppq> ist dann halt nicht komprimiert
[10:18] <tuor> ppq, ah ok, Danke. (habe mich schon lange nicht mehr damit beschaeftigt ;) )
[10:19] <ppq> ich auch nicht, bin mit LUKS (vollverschlüsselung) völlig zufrieden
[10:26] <jokrebel> frostschutz: Ah interessant - danke
[10:30] <tuor> ppq, alles was rein Linux ist, klappt das auch super. Wenn es eben auch mal ein anderes OS Lesen soll, dann muss eben etwas anderes her.
[11:36] <payloadx> Hi. Mein kernel panict und sagt init und bin/sh kann er nicht ausführen (error code -8?).
[11:36] <payloadx> Mit einem live ubuntu habe ich überprüft dass /bin/sh und /sbin/init existieren und ausführbar sind (printen help)
[11:37] <payloadx> evt hat er aus irgend einem grund nicht lesbar gemountet beim booten? wie könnte ich das beim booten überprüfen?
[11:38] <payloadx> das ganze betrifft mich seit dem ich gestern ubuntu 15.10 installieren wollte
[11:39] <jokrebel> Mal mit älterem Kernel booten? Von der Live-CD aus einen Festplatte-Überprüfung starten? Memtest durchführen? würd mir da so ohne näheren Background spontan in den Sinn kommen.
[11:39] <frostschutz> payloadx, genaue fehlermeldung oder bild davon?
[11:39] <frostschutz> payloadx, ubuntu 15.10 neu installiert oder wars ein update?
[11:40] <jokrebel> payloadx: "gestern ubuntu 15.10 installieren" = "Neuinstallation" oder war es eher ein Distributions-Upgrade?
[11:43] <payloadx> Es war ein gruseliges drüber installieren. sda1 ist ext2 und mountpoint für /boot. sda3 ist ein lvm2 von einem ubuntu 14.04. in dem lvm2 ist die partition root als mountpoint für /
[11:43] <payloadx> darin ist auch mein /home
[11:44] <payloadx> und auf irgend ner anderen partition (und festplatte) ist swap, den ich aber als nicht genutzt markiert habe
[11:44] <jokrebel> oioioi
[11:44] <leszek> payloadx: prüfe mal ob /boot nicht vollgelaufen ist. Meines Wissens hat *buntu immer noch den bug das nicht zu leeren bzw. automatisch alte kernel zu entfernen
[11:45] <payloadx> ein foto von der fehlermeldung kann ich machen, dafür wär ich in 5 minuten wieder zurück. soll ich das tun? ich kann auch noch ein paar details aus meiner erinnerung nennen
[11:45] <payloadx> ich prüfe fix /boot auf völle (aber es ist nur der eine 15.10er kernel drin)
[11:46] <payloadx> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[11:46] <payloadx> /dev/sda1 745M 59M 648M 9% /home/ubuntu/sda1
[11:46] <payloadx> da ist noch platz
[11:47] <leszek> jo dann ists was anderes
[11:47] <payloadx> weist du wie man beim booten noch vor dem init prüft, ob die root partition 'vernünftig' gemounted wurde?
[11:48] <leszek> du könntest mit debug ins initrd rein und das mounten dann selber erledigen
[11:48] <payloadx> ist das eine grub option die ich hinter die initrd zeile packe? das wort "debug"?
[11:48] <leszek> müsstest mal schauen wie die option für debugging heißt. Evtl. ist die auch nur in casper (also dem live initrd) drinen und nicht normal. Das weiß ich jetzt nicht
[11:48] <payloadx> okay
[11:51] <frostschutz> wenn du die lvm-root partition wiederverwendet hast (ohne lvm-home anzugreifen), kann sein daß du chrooten musst und im chroot lvm nachinstallieren. zumindest war das früher so, kA ob 15.10 dafür schlau genug ist inzwischen
[11:54] <payloadx> lvm-root ist hier mein mountpoint / und lvm-home ist ein ordner in diesem lvm-root. chroot und apt-get install lvm2 würde ich mal machen. evt reinstall, weil ... ist evt schon drauf. aber das könnte sein, schließlich habe ich bei der installation von 15.10 kein häkchen für lvm gesetzt (weil der grau war)... hm. ich schau da mal nach bevor ich abtauche und ein foto von dem panic mache
[11:55] <frostschutz> hast du dein home bei der installation behalten oder nicht? normalerweise ist das ja dann eine eigene partition / ein eigenes LV
[11:55] <frostschutz> einfach reininstallieren ohne zu formatieren ist womöglich keine so gute idee
[11:56] <payloadx> frostschutz, das habe ich überprüft dass das geht. in den ubuntu guides und wikis steht drin, dass man das seit 2008 machen kann und auch so macht
[11:57] <payloadx> ich finds doof dass das nicht im installer erwähnt wird, aber mein home existiert noch. der löscht nur die "system ordner"
[11:58] <payloadx> so wird die standard installations-partitionierung von ubuntu erst vernünftig... das ist ja eine große partition und eine swap partition)
[11:58] <kcalB> Hallo Leutz, weiß jemand von euch wie man eine "nur" eine Subdomain "nicht" die Hauptdomain einer Website Blockiert via dnsmasq ?
[12:02] <payloadx> so apt-get install --reinstall lvm2 und hat in dem korrekten boot ordner initrd angefasst
[12:02] * jokrebel sucht den Ubuntu-Bezug in der Frage.
[12:02] <payloadx> ich tauche jetzt ab und komme wieder und bringe ein foto von einem panic oder gute nachrichten
[12:04] <kcalB> jokrebel, ghört doch auch irgendie zu Ubuntu oder ? O.o
[12:07] <jokrebel> kcalB: Ich würde das eher unter Netzwerktechnik oder Homepage einordnen und nicht bei "Betriebssystem"
[12:09] <kcalB> ja okay jokrebel , ich habe gedacht, das evtl. hier mir ggf. jemand weiterhelfen könnte
[12:15] <jokrebel> kcalB: Möglicherweise. Aber die Erfolgsaussichten könnten in passenderen Kanälen wohl gesteigert werden ;-)
[12:16] <payloadx> mein panic: http://imgur.com/foXVhuC
[12:16] <kcalB> jokrebel, hast du einen deutschsprachigen Kanal auf lager ? :D
[12:19] <jokrebel> kcalB: Sorry nein; sonst hätt ich den auch gleich genannt.
[12:20] <kcalB> jokrebel, sorry wenn ich frage, aber kennst du dich nicht damit aus ?
[12:21] <frostschutz> payloadx, das ist wahrscheinlich ein kaputtes initramfs
[12:22] <payloadx> initramfs ist gleich initrd.img-*?
[12:22] <frostschutz> payloadx, im initramfs ist /init meistens ein Shellscript (#!/bin/sh) und /bin/sh ist ein symlink auf busybox aber busybox scheint in dem initramfs dann nicht zu existieren, nicht executable zu sein, oder sonstwie nicht zu funktionieren
[12:22] <frostschutz> payloadx, ja
[12:23] <payloadx> ah, das hat also nix mit meiner rootpartition an der stelle zu tun
[12:23] <payloadx> sondern das spielt sich noch in dem initrd ab
[12:23] <frostschutz> chrooten und initramfs neu generieren, und die grub cfg anschauen ob das initramfs da auch tatsächlich drin steht
[12:23] <payloadx> jupp
[12:24] <payloadx> apt-get update und reinstall linux ? ^^
[12:24] <jokrebel> kcalB: Nö, auch da hast Du leider Pech. Hätt ich einen sinnvollen Hinweis für Dich gehabt hätte ich ihn genannt ;-)
[12:25] <kcalB> okay jokrebel nicht schlimm, danke nochmal :)
[16:59] <tprommi> Guten Abend. Wäre schön, wenn einer von euch mir einen Tip geben könnte. Es geht um einen IntelAtom Rechner mit Ubuntu 14.04. Nach dem ausschalten bootet der Rechner neu. Bios hab ich schon durchgecheckt, auf default gesetzt, und geupdatet. Der Rechner war mal ein XBMC Medeiacenter, der automatisch Starten konnte, um eine Aufnahme zu machen. Vielleicht ist davon irgendwas in der RTC übrig geblieben.
[16:59] <tprommi> Externe Geräte hatte ich auch schon ab.
[17:01] <tprommi> Ich meine mal was gelesen zu haben, dass ein Betriebssystem Daten in die RTC schreiben kann, die vom Bios nicht angezeigt werden können. Wenn ich nur wüsste wo...
[17:13] <Loetmichel2> re @ home... maaan bin ich froh daß wie die tante in ein paar monaten los sind. Ich habe grade der Buchhaterin/frau vom chef sagen müssen daß sie grobe scheisse erzählt. und ihrem mann in ihrem beisein daß er seine frau mal an die kandarre nehmen soll weil die völlig leerdreht. Ich werde morgen noch eine schriftliche mitteilung vom boss gegenzeichnen lassen daß sie keinerlei
[17:13] <Loetmichel2> weisungsbefugnis mehr hat oder die verbliebenen 5MA kündigen geschlossen fristlos. mal gucken was dann passiert.
[17:13] <Loetmichel2> ups falscher channel
[18:03] <nagetier> tprommi, auch wenn das Netzwerkkabel ab ist?
[18:04] <nagetier> falls vorhanden
[18:19] <tprommi> Hallo gagetier. Hab die Antwort leider nicht mitbekommen. Ja, ich hatte alles ab.
[18:21] <tprommi> Ich hatte schon mal vor die Bios Batterie zu tauschen. Hab aber keine Hoffnung, dass es mich weiter bringt.
[18:54] <frostschutz> standardeinstellungen im bios laden könnte einen versuch wert sein... wenn ich bei meinem "alten" Intel E8400 an den power states rumspiele startet die kiste auch neu
[18:54] <frostschutz> oder schaltet gar nicht erst ab
[21:57] <payloadx> jokrebel: leszek: frostschutz: hey. mein kernel panic von heute mittag ist nun weg und mein ubuntu funktioniert wieder. der letzte schritt war linux-image-*-generic neu zu installieren um initrd.img-* neu und korrekt zu machen. danke!
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2015-11-03-#kubuntu-se
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[20:23] <Flygisoft> Hej på dig Philip5
[20:26] <Flygisoft> Har du sett Yongnuo RT blixtarna Philip5?
[20:26] <Flygisoft> Dock endast för Canon än så länge iaf
[20:29] <Philip5> Flygisoft: nope, bara sett att de var på gång
[20:35] <Flygisoft> Okej :)
[20:46] <Philip5> Flygisoft: kollar du inte på fotboll? :)
[20:47] <Flygisoft> Nej :P
[20:47] <Flygisoft> Philip5: Vet inte ens vilka som spelar
[20:47] <Philip5> ajabaja, är väl nästan allmänbildning i sportsverige
[20:53] <Flygisoft> Haha :P
[20:53] <Flygisoft> Är väl inte så allmänbildad då
[20:58] <Philip5> tydligen inte. trodde mer om dig ;)
[20:59] <Philip5> men det går inte så bra så det kanske inte gör så mycket
[21:00] <Flygisoft> Jaså
[21:57] <Flygisoft> Ne det här går inte
[21:57] <Flygisoft> nu måste jag sova
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.196145
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-nz
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[04:18] <chilts> I thought I said morning this morning
[04:18] <chilts> maybe I time-travelled from yesterday, that's what it feels like at the moment
[09:38] <hads> morning
[18:44] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:21] <olly> morning
[22:23] <chilts> morning
[22:29] <mwhudson> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.198020
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:00] <matsubara> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 3 16:00:25 2015 UTC. The chair is matsubara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:00] <matsubara> Hi there, welcome to this week's Server Team meeting!
[16:00] <matsubara> who's around today?
[16:01] <thedac> o/
[16:01] <arosales> o/
[16:01] <teward> i'm alive but don't have anything to really add just yet :P
[16:01] <matsubara> FWIW, I'm leading today in place of hallyn
[16:01] <teward> (I lurk these usually)
[16:01] <arosales> thanks for covering my chair while I was out
[16:02] <matsubara> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:03] <matsubara> I don't think there are any action points from the previous meeting. IIRC last week one was cancelled due to ODS
[16:03] <matsubara> so let's move on
[16:03] <matsubara> #topic Xenial Development
[16:04] <matsubara> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[16:04] <matsubara> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[16:04] <matsubara> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:04] <matsubara> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:04] <matsubara> not sure if that URL is working at all
[16:04] <matsubara> I'm updating the links on the fly as those are not up to date at the wiki page
[16:04] <teward> looks fine to me
[16:05] <teward> 3 bugs on that tracker according to what i see
[16:05] <teward> (that are ubuntu-server marked(
[16:05] <teward> (oops lag, i meant the URL not working issue)
[16:05] <matsubara> yep
[16:06] <matsubara> the critical one is already assigned, the high one is in progress
[16:06] <matsubara> and there's medium lxc one
[16:07] <matsubara> which is part of the work done due to another critical lxc bug discovered just after the release
[16:07] <matsubara> so I think that's all covered and people are aware of what needs to be done.
[16:07] <matsubara> moving on
[16:08] <matsubara> #topic Assigned bugwork (rbasak)
[16:08] <matsubara> rbasak, around?
[16:09] <matsubara> ok, I'll take that as no, so moving on
[16:09] <matsubara> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:10] <matsubara> caribou is not around either, so let's move on. We can come back later on
[16:10] <matsubara> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)
[16:11] <matsubara> I don't have any updates
[16:11] <matsubara> unless there are any questions, I'll move on
[16:11] <matsubara> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:12] <arges> matsubara: no updates from the kernel team! thanks
[16:12] <matsubara> thanks arges!
[16:12] <matsubara> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:13] <matsubara> I don't think there's any
[16:13] <matsubara> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:14] <matsubara> UOS is happening, so checkout the schedule for server & cloud related things: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/
[16:15] <matsubara> #topic Open Discussion
[16:15] <matsubara> anything?
[16:15] <matsubara> 3
[16:15] <matsubara> 2
[16:15] <teward> nginx 1.9.6 will be merged as soon as I get off my lazy butt. Introduces http2, so many will be happy to see that.
[16:15] <teward> that's all :)
[16:15] <matsubara> oh, thanks for the update teward!
[16:16] <teward> yup
[16:16] <matsubara> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:16] <matsubara> same date and time next week and the chair will be hallyn
[16:16] <matsubara> and I guess that's all
[16:16] <matsubara> thanks everyone!
[16:16] <matsubara> #endmeeting
[16:16] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 3 16:16:58 2015 UTC.
[16:16] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-03-16.00.moin.txt
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[18:28] <volkovmqx> Bonsoir tlm
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[12:38] <hugealt> Hi there - I've been experiencing a strange issue with my FIlco USB keyboard since installing 15.10. It seems that occasionally (once an hour or so) my keyboard will either get stuck on repeating a key or repeating no key and just become unresponsive. It won't respond to input at all, even capslock etc will not enable/disable. I can resolve it by unplugging and replugging the usb. I'm just scared that it will hap
[12:38] <hugealt> pen when I'm doing something time-sensitive or data-sensitive and end up causing a serious problem.
[12:44] <mgedmin> do you see anything interesting in dmesg or journalctl when that happens?
[13:24] <hugealt> Nothing in either
[13:24] <hugealt> I can see where I disconnected and reconnected the keyboard in both, but nothing right before
[13:28] <mgedmin> I don't know what to suggest
[13:58] <LinDol> hi all
[16:55] <kozukumi> hello, I have an issue when logging out of gnome, wonder if someone could give me a hand? here is a link an image of the error I get http://i.imgur.com/yLGvizr.jpg
[17:17] <freyes> kozukumi, try pressing Alt+F7 , the login screen should be there
[17:26] <kozukumi> no that is on the gui tty (or whatever it is called) i can press alr+f1 to get tty1 and login, then i can do startx or reboot and all is fine
[17:26] <kozukumi> not too sure whats up :/
[17:26] <kozukumi> looks like it is hanging on an fsck?
[17:26] <kozukumi> ive only been using linux for 4 hours so this is all new to me :)
[22:59] <kozukumi> Hi all, I have an issue with logout. It crashes and gives me a text screen like so http://i.imgur.com/rQrY95a.jpg
[22:59] <kozukumi> I think it might be something to do with fsck but I can't find anything related to it in the logs
[23:02] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I think I can say with confidence that it isn't related to fsck... reason being, that it says it was "clean" and then went on to other tasks.
[23:02] <JohnnyComeL8ly> kozukumi: ^^
[23:02] <kozukumi> yeah that is what i thought too but i cant find anything else related to it
[23:03] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Try Ctrl + Atl + F1
[23:03] <JohnnyComeL8ly> That should get you to a terminal.
[23:03] <kozukumi> yeah i can get a tty1
[23:04] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ok, login, and then try journalctl.
[23:04] <kozukumi> and i can login and startx again and it loads fine
[23:04] <kozukumi> ok let me write this down as i need to crash my system to do it lol
[23:05] <JohnnyComeL8ly> kamikaze == kozukumi
[23:05] <kozukumi> ha
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[01:04] <ponyofdeath> I think ubuntu iproute2 might be too old for 4.3
[01:48] <a1fa> anyone running autossh, if so where did you put your startup script?
[01:50] <a1fa> cron, if-up.d, init.d ;} choices choices choices
[04:42] <jak2000> hi all
[04:44] <jak2000> anyone can guide me for install a ubuntu server
[04:44] <jak2000> i want try with lvm partitions
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> jak2000: What do you need guiding on?
[05:14] <jak2000> i am created a lvm disk 18gb
[05:14] <jak2000> have 3 more
[05:15] <jak2000> how to add it to any partition
[05:55] <jak2000> wich is wrong: http://pastie.org/10525809 not start the eth0 i need type this command for have network: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.200/24 up
[05:55] <jak2000> why not take automatically the configuration?
[06:05] <jak2000> adun153 hi
[06:05] <jak2000> wich is wrong: http://pastie.org/10525809 not start the eth0 i need type this command for have network: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.200/24 up why not take automatically the configuration?
[06:06] <adun153> jak2000: Think of ifconfig as "manual" manipulation of the interface
[06:06] <adun153> what you want is "ifup eth0"
[06:07] <jak2000> but how do the changes permanently?
[06:07] <jak2000> why i need type ifup eth0?
[06:08] <adun153> Whatever is in /etc/network/interfaces is "permanent", when your computer boots up again, the settings will take effect
[06:08] <jak2000> yes
[06:08] <jak2000> its ok: http://pastie.org/10525809 ?
[06:08] <adun153> but it's just a text file. If you made the changes just now, you need the interface's running config to change.
[06:09] <jak2000> i restarted the server
[06:09] <jak2000> and not bring up the network card
[06:09] <adun153> I see that there is a "safe" in there
[06:09] <adun153> I'm not familiar with that config option
[06:10] <jak2000> remove
[06:12] <adun153> Did it work?
[06:13] <jak2000> yesss
[06:13] <jak2000> thx
[06:14] <adun153> no prob. :)
[06:55] <alkisg> Hi, I want to see if this idea makes sense... I'd like to have a server in the link-local ipv6 address of fe80::1 so that the clients can reach it more easily (no control over the dhcp etc). Can the server have 2 link-local addresses? If not, is it a problem if I use only the fe80::1 one?
[09:19] <theptr> i have an ubuntu server 14.04 i worked with iptables what is nice . Now i want to start with ufw . is it possible to import the rules in ufw ?
[15:04] <mdeslaur> rbasak: I'm working on sponsoring the mariadb security update. Any plans to merge it from debian into xenial?
[15:13] <rbasak> mdeslaur: otto looks after that. I think I hold the lock on the merge probably though. I need to catch up with status but no plans this week.
[15:15] <dannf> hallyn: fyi, just e-mailed you another patch for qemu that'd help in backporting
[15:15] <hallyn> dannf: ok, thx. will be looking in the evening
[15:22] <mdeslaur> rbasak: ok, thanks, i'll upload the same change to xenial than, and someone can re-merge the debian differences at a later time
[15:49] <EmilienM> coreycb, zul, jamespage: have you tested openstack gnocchi & aodh in trusty/liberty ? gnocchi looks absent and aodh broken
[15:49] <jamespage> EmilienM, nope they where autosyncs from Debian
[15:49] <jamespage> EmilienM, and indeed gnocchi is missing still for liberty
[15:50] <EmilienM> jamespage: so aodh should be good now? (if debian fixed it)
[15:50] <jamespage> EmilienM, generally my team will only have tested stuff in Ubuntu main - anything else ymmv
[15:51] <jamespage> EmilienM, there was a fix on release day to aodh that I synced over from Debian
[15:51] <EmilienM> jamespage: ok, trying again. Thanks
[15:51] <jamespage> anything since then - we don't have in liberty at least
[16:13] <herrkin> TJ-, hello, are you arround?
[16:14] <herrkin> I have a problem with a program that has to execute like a service but as soon as I log out it exits
[16:14] <herrkin> I need it to remain active, even at startup
[16:15] <sarnold> why not write an upstart or systemd or whatever startup file for it?
[16:16] <patdk-wk> sounds like work
[16:26] <herrkin> sarnold, I am using pm2
[16:26] <herrkin> I am not sure it is using the correct parameters
[16:26] <herrkin> it created 2 files for the startup.
[16:26] <herrkin> I can share it here
[16:28] <herrkin> it created a file in /etc/initd called pm2-init.sh
[16:28] <herrkin> so I can do sudo service pm2-init.sh start and it works
[16:28] <herrkin> the thing is it wont start up with the system
[16:29] <sarnold> aha, great, then you've got the thing to start from :)
[16:29] <sarnold> what error messages do you get?
[16:29] <herrkin> I cant see errors, there are no error logs
[16:30] <herrkin> then if I log with my user and do pm2 start it starts like it wasnt online (it wasnt) if I log out from ssh the app stops
[16:30] <herrkin> if I log back again I have to do a start again..
[16:30] <herrkin> crazy
[16:30] <sarnold> use 'service pm2 start' instead
[16:30] <herrkin> its the same
[16:34] <herrkin> I just tried
[16:34] <herrkin> it behaves the same
[16:34] <herrkin> the pm2-init.sh file has a variable called user which I populate the name of my user.
[16:35] <sarnold> aha; do you get any messages logged to syslog?
[16:35] <sarnold> can you pastebin the pm2-init.sh?
[16:35] <herrkin> how do I see the syslog? sorry for the ignorance
[16:35] <herrkin> please remind me of the termbin expresion, its easier that way
[16:36] <sarnold> re: syslog, that's "less /var/log/syslog"
[16:36] <sarnold> herrkin: pastebin refers to sites like http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:36] <sarnold> herrkin: you can use the "pastebinit" program from the "pastebinit" package to easily submit files and terminal output to pastebin sites
[16:37] <herrkin> ok hold on a sec
[16:39] <herrkin> this is my syslog
[16:39] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/s3w9
[16:40] <herrkin> there seem to be nothing from pm2
[16:41] <sarnold> how about grep -r pm2 /var/log --- does that show where it is logging?
[16:41] <herrkin> this is my pm2-init.sh file
[16:41] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/kx3v
[16:41] <herrkin> I have a log file in my home folder
[16:42] <herrkin> ~/.pm2/pm2.log
[16:42] <herrkin> it doesnt show any errors, nothing
[16:42] <herrkin> like it didnt execute
[16:43] <herrkin> I think I am seeing the error.
[16:43] <herrkin> it says permission denied to my home directory
[16:45] <herrkin> this command you gave me last shows some errors in /var/log/boot.log
[16:45] <herrkin> error: connect EACCESS /home/saecosoft/.pm2/rpc.sock
[16:47] <sarnold> herrkin: try ls -l /home/saecosoft/.pm2 /home/saecosoft/.pm2/rpc.sock
[16:48] <herrkin> what does it do?
[16:49] <herrkin> I am also seeing that even when I say in pm2-init to use saecosoft user it uses root anyway
[16:49] <herrkin> so that may be the problem
[16:50] <herrkin> I probably need to reinstall pm2
[16:50] <herrkin> delete all the .pm2 folders including /root/.pm2 just in case
[17:03] <herrkin> sarnold, look
[17:03] <herrkin> http://termbin.com/cmcf
[17:05] <sarnold> nice
[17:06] <herrkin> it didnt
[17:06] <herrkin> it says starting but it wont start
[17:06] <herrkin> no errors
[17:06] <sarnold> but i'd expect to see an entry for starting the service just after the reboot command :/
[17:06] <herrkin> yes it doesnt show anything else
[17:06] <herrkin> I have to make it start manually
[17:06] <herrkin> its crazy
[17:07] <herrkin> lol its driving me crazy
[17:07] <herrkin> it stops as soon as I log out, it doesnt matter if I am root or sudo or normal user
[17:08] <sarnold> herrkin: what happens with 'update-rc.d pm2 enable' ?
[17:08] <herrkin> or if I use service comand or pm2 directly
[17:08] <herrkin> is that a command_
[17:08] <herrkin> ??
[17:08] <sarnold> yes
[17:09] <herrkin> it says /etc/init.d/pm2 file doesnt exist
[17:09] <herrkin> it should look for pm2-init.sh
[17:09] <sarnold> okay, how about update-rc.d pm2-init enable /
[17:09] <herrkin> I think
[17:09] <sarnold> ?
[17:09] <sarnold> yeah, I just wondered since the name field in the insserv headers said it provided pm2..
[17:10] <herrkin> it is pm2-init.sh
[17:10] <herrkin> it says removing startup liks
[17:10] <herrkin> then it added them again
[17:11] <sarnold> try another reboot, lets see if it tries to start the service at boot now
[17:11] <herrkin> ok
[17:12] <herrkin> no it didnt
[17:12] <sarnold> :/
[17:13] <herrkin> wait it keeps saying
[17:13] <herrkin> EACCESS /home/saecosoft/.pm2/rpc.sock
[17:14] <herrkin> ok I am going to try something different
[17:14] <herrkin> hang on a sec
[17:17] <herrkin> I reinstalled pm2 as root and it worked but the list was errored
[17:17] <herrkin> weird
[17:18] <herrkin> it didnt look for /home/user/.pm2
[17:18] <herrkin> instead /root/.pm2
[17:18] <herrkin> then it started but the list had an error
[17:21] <applepi> Hi all. Is there any reason that an ubuntu server 14.04.02 installation with a relatively default setup to be ARPing the subnet it's on?
[17:21] <i-make-robots> hello, all. I have a live site on one domain and a test site on another. When my test site sends emails they get caught by dmarc spam filtering (the test server says "from [email protected]" but the server is testsite.com). How would you fix this so that I could see the emails being sent?
[17:22] <i-make-robots> i really don't want to mess with the tested configs. Can I change the mail server somehow?
[17:23] <applepi> I have an Ubuntu VM running on a windows PC; the IP of the PC ARP'd the subnet it was on last night in the middle of the night, but I can't work out what might have happened
[17:24] <applepi> Trying to rule out anything malicious.
[17:27] <i-make-robots> ARP'd?
[17:28] <applepi> Making ARP requests for every IP on the subnet from 0-255
[17:29] <i-make-robots> oops
[17:29] <i-make-robots> no idea
[17:31] <sarnold> applepi: iirc windows does some duplicate address detection; I don't know how it chooses to implement it though
[17:37] <applepi> Hmm
[17:48] <herrkin> sarnold, using it with the user root seems to work but there seems to be an internal error
[17:48] <herrkin> the boot says to show more type show id
[17:48] <sarnold> herrkin: oh, hooray, progress. I hope it's alright to run the thing as root..
[17:49] <herrkin> for now it is
[17:49] <herrkin> but there is another problem
[17:49] <herrkin> the child app doesnt start
[17:49] <herrkin> it says errored
[17:49] <herrkin> if I restart the process manually via pm2 restart all it starts
[18:01] <heysomeone> hello
[18:01] <heysomeone> total beginner here
[18:02] <heysomeone> I installed an ubuntu-server on a virtual machine
[18:02] <heysomeone> and I can login with it via ssh totally fine
[18:03] <heysomeone> but when I try to open it on the browser, it refuses the connection
[18:03] <sarnold> did you install a web server on the machine? is it configured to listen to the ip address you used? if you used a cloud provider like amazon, did you configure the security groups to allow port 80 traffic too?
[18:04] <heysomeone> um, don't know. I did install a LAMP server
[18:05] <heysomeone> but I didn't configure anything with port80
[18:06] <sarnold> alright, check sudo netstat -nltp and look for programs listening to port 80
[18:06] <heysomeone> in my vm?
[18:07] <heysomeone> http://pastebin.com/DtpdGbMx
[18:08] <sarnold> alright, looks like there's no running webserver; do you prefer apache or nginx or something else?
[18:09] <heysomeone> wait, I want a lamp
[18:09] <heysomeone> apache mysql and phph
[18:10] <heysomeone> alright
[18:11] <heysomeone> okay
[18:12] <heysomeone> That's all
[18:12] <sarnold> okay, apt-get install apache2 -- then decide if you want libapache2-mod-php5 or php5-fpm or something else to execute your php -- then install the mysql-server-5.5 or mysql-server-5.6 for whatever version is uspported on your distro
[18:12] <heysomeone> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ did the work
[18:12] <sarnold> hooray
[18:12] <heysomeone> thanks a lot for your help!
[18:15] <sarnold> have fun :)
[18:16] <heysomeone> oh well
[18:16] <heysomeone> now I downloaded moodle to check if it runs
[18:16] <heysomeone> how do I get to the install.php?
[18:16] <heysomeone> or how do I install it?
[18:18] <sarnold> heysomeone: check /usr/share/doc/moodle/README.Debian, it gives some overview
[18:23] <heysomeone> thanks!
[18:52] <boze> I'm using siege to test a server and I get a buffer overflow. In one of the issue que's it says to make sure your server's thread pool can accommodate the number of users I scheduled. How can I check my servers thread pool?
[19:06] <smartass> hi, what is the recommended way to set up cgroups in 14.04.3? cgroup-bin seems to be in some kind of limbo state...
[19:33] <i-make-robots> When my test site sends emails they get caught by dmarc spam filtering (the test server says "from [email protected]" but the server is testsite.com). How would you fix this so that I could see the emails being sent?
[19:33] <i-make-robots> i *think* I can call livesite from testsite and say "please send my mail for me", but I don't know how to do that.
[20:28] <patdk-wk> heh?
[20:28] <patdk-wk> dmarc is a self imposed *issue*
[20:28] <patdk-wk> dmarc is not activated unless you ASK for it
[20:28] <patdk-wk> dmarc is not spam filtering
[20:34] <acro458> Hello, Linux newbie. I am trying to use curl to get the text from a device's webpage. I get a 503 service unavailable error. Where do I begin?
[20:48] <dannf> hallyn: thx for the upload!
[20:57] <hallyn> yw :)
[21:19] <urthmover> what would keep the ip addresses of my interfaces from showing up on the ssh banner?
[21:21] <sarnold> it's probably a bad idea to show the ip address in the banner; thanks to port forwarding, NAT, proxies, the IP address that receives the connection may not be the IP address that the client addressed; and it might not be polite (or be useful) to print the IP address in the banner
[21:23] <urthmover> sarnold: maybe I misued the term banner. When I ssh into a fresh ubuntu server I'm faced with the Welcome screen....some servers show the ip address for each interface...other servers do not show ip addresses at all
[21:24] <sarnold> ah :)
[21:24] <sarnold> motd
[21:24] <patdk-wk> or whatever that auto update motd package is called
[21:24] <sarnold> urthmover: look into the update-motd manpage
[21:25] <sarnold> aha, in the update-motd package, convenient enough
[21:25] <urthmover> sarnold: ok I'll look there thank you
[23:02] <DalekSec> sarnold: You won't like my solution (nor do I, been considering it past couple months), but ended up just installing a newer libssl on trusty to fix the incompatibility. It's not a new SONAME, so shouldn't (and hasn't) caused any issues at least.
[23:03] <sarnold> DalekSec: ooof. indeed, that's not ideal. :)
[23:04] <DalekSec> In no means, but Xenial should be out soon enough and I can track libssl easily enough for a couple months. I did notice Debian uploaded a new one, with a new SONAME too.
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[08:30] <xavigarcia> trainguards ping
[08:32] <xavigarcia> trainguards: Hi guys, I saw that there was a problem publishing silo 46. I don't have permissions to upload, but I saw that sil2100 had the same issue. The silo contains new strings so we should land this asap to give enough time to the translations team
[08:42] <Mirv> xavigarcia: yes, we'd need a core-dev for it, me or sil2100 do not yet have those rights either (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members)
[08:42] <xavigarcia> Mirv: ack... thanks
[08:44] <Mirv> xavigarcia: Laney just did a couple of indicator uploads yesterdays, maybe he'd be up to this too. But I see a problem with the packaging unfortunately - it build depends on libunity-api-dev which is in universe, while the indicator is in main.
[08:45] <Mirv> this won't be allowed, so either the dependency should be removed or the unity-api source package should be MIR:d via a bug report containing this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements
[08:47] <xavigarcia> Mirv: Okay... I will take a look, but I'm afraid I cannot remove that dependency....
[09:52] <xavigarcia> Mirv: Hi again, I see the network indicator has also libunity-api-dev as a build dependency and it's landing normally
[09:54] <seb128> xavigarcia, that indicator is not used on the desktop and is in universe
[09:56] <xavigarcia> seb128: true... I didn't realize it was not in main. thanks!
[09:57] <seb128> yw
[10:14] <bzoltan_> Mirv: what should i do with this? https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-016-1-build/268/console
[10:16] <Mirv> bzoltan_: we're back to normal landings - ie those where you need to wait for the -proposed migration in xenial before the trunk gets merged..
[10:17] <Mirv> bzoltan_: but if it's OTA-8 related you're preparing, let's just merge manually
[10:17] <Trevinho> Laney: why do I get that error? ^
[10:17] <bzoltan_> Mirv: it is indeed an OTA8 bugfix
[10:17] <Trevinho> Is that already in xenial?
[10:17] <Mirv> bzoltan_: ok, just a moment then
[10:17] <Laney> yes
[10:17] <Laney> Trevinho: tick box to ignore it
[10:17] <bzoltan_> Mirv: thank you
[10:18] <Trevinho> Laney: how is called?
[10:18] <Laney> umm
[10:18] <Trevinho> Laney: FORCE_REBUILD?
[10:18] <Laney> force something
[10:18] <Laney> sounds right
[10:19] <Mirv> bzoltan_: trunk up-to-date, feel free to retry now
[10:19] <Mirv> the merge job said something funny but did the main thing anyway
[10:19] <Trevinho> Laney: ok that went ok
[10:21] <Laney> woot
[12:30] <oSoMoN> trainguards: can the armhf xenial build in silo 39 be retried, please?
[12:35] <Mirv> oSoMoN: ok
[12:58] <alf_> cihelp: Hi! We are getting CI failures because of intermittent network issues ("Temporary failure in name resolution"). Is this a known issue? For example, see latest failures in https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-mediumtests-runner-touch/
[13:03] <psivaa> alf_: this seems very similar cause due to a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1511049
[13:06] <alf_> psivaa: I don't know... what we are seeing is clearly a network issue, whereas the bug you mention seems like a problem with the API (i.e. connection to LP is made, but something goes wrong after that)
[13:13] <psivaa> alf_: Since the actual root cause of the bug hasn't been investigated, i'm not sure if we can either confirm it as the same cause or a different one. May be a different out come of the same cause or slightly different causes. i.e. Could be in the networking used by software-proporties
[13:14] <psivaa> alf_: i'll add this output to the bug too
[14:38] <dobey> cihelp: can we have a pending click autopilot mako job killed to circumvent the extreme long wait time, if we aren't relying on successful completion of the autopilot?
[15:20] <josepht> dobey: which job?
[15:21] <dobey> josepht: the pending generic-click-autopilot-mako job for pay-ui
[15:23] <josepht> dobey: http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-click-autopilot-runner-mako/ ?
[15:23] <dobey> josepht: yes, #949 is the pending job for pay-ui there
[15:25] <josepht> dobey: okay, let me figure out if killing it is going to cause any issues
[15:25] <dobey> josepht: ok, thanks
[15:27] <josepht> dobey: I killed it
[15:28] <dobey> josepht: i saw. thanks :)
[15:28] <josepht> dobey: np
[15:29] <dobey> cihelp, trainguards: can we get http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-click-builder-14.09-armhf/49/artifact/output/com.canonical.payui_15.01.135_armhf.click uploaded to the store please?
[15:29] <sil2100> dobey: hey! You'd need someone like popey
[15:30] <Saviq> trainguards, remove unity-scope-click from silo 21 please, and can we have a silo for reqs 595, 596?
[15:30] <sil2100> Saviq: oh, we low on silos now? On it
[15:31] <sil2100> Saviq: packages deleted, now for the requests
[15:32] <Saviq> sil2100, yeah, thanks
[15:33] <sil2100> Saviq: assigned
[15:33] <Saviq> tx
[15:33] <sil2100> Landers, please make sure to free up silos that you are not using right now
[15:34] <popey> sil2100, dunno who uploads payui, usually fginther I think....
[15:34] <sil2100> Oh, hm, ok
[15:34] <sil2100> fginther: ^ ?
[15:34] <fginther> sil2100, hey
[15:34] <dobey> usually fginther or plars in the past
[15:35] <dobey> fginther: can you upload http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-click-builder-14.09-armhf/49/artifact/output/com.canonical.payui_15.01.135_armhf.click to the store?
[15:35] <sil2100> fginther: dobey wanted a payui upload to the store, if you have a moment :)
[15:35] <fginther> dobey, sure
[15:35] <dobey> thanks
[15:38] <fginther> dobey, done
[15:39] <dobey> fginther: great, thanks
[15:41] <bfiller> sil2100: out of silos? not letting me assign through train
[15:41] <sil2100> bfiller: yeah, you have a request I should assign?
[15:42] <bfiller> sil2100: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/597
[15:42] <dobey> trainguards: for requests for click package landings, do we just abandon the request once it's done? i don't see a way to manually set the status to landed
[15:42] <robru> dobey: what happens if you force merge?
[15:42] <sil2100> bfiller: assigning
[15:43] <bfiller> sil2100: ty
[15:43] <dobey> robru: how do i do that?
[15:43] <sil2100> bfiller: assigned, but we're no officially out of silos
[15:43] <sil2100> ;)
[15:43] <bfiller> sil2100: darn, any that can be deleted?
[15:43] <robru> dobey: run the merge job with FORCE checked. IIRC it should not try to delete any nonexistent PPA but still set the status to Landed.
[15:43] <dobey> robru: i only see "Assign" "Abandon" and "Edit"
[15:44] <dobey> robru: oh i need to assign a silo ppa for it?
[15:44] <robru> dobey: oh crap, nm then
[15:44] <robru> dobey: you won't be able to because we're low
[15:44] <dobey> oh ok
[15:44] <dobey> robru: but assign and then force merge, should theoretically result in it being "landed" ?
[15:45] <robru> dobey: just mark it abandoned I guess. I still to this day have no idea why people insist on cramming non-ppa-using things through the ppa-wrapping-tool
[15:45] <dobey> robru: because you haven't given us a solution for getting clicks built, QAed, and uploaded to the store :)
[15:45] <dobey> it all has to be done manually this way
[15:46] <robru> dobey: I could create a spreadsheet for you...
[15:46] <dobey> give me a way to have silos for clicks, and it will get used
[15:47] <robru> dobey: well I can't make ppas support clicks, talk to colin
[15:59] <sil2100> xavigarcia: hey! So, I also checked quickly the packaging diff for silo 46 and as probably already someone else mentioned, we can't release it due to the cmake-extras and libunity-api-dev deps which are in universe
[16:00] <sil2100> xavigarcia: we'd either need to get rid of those or move them to main
[16:01] <xavigarcia> sil2100: although they only depend for building?
[16:01] <xavigarcia> sil2100: I only need those packages for the integration tests
[16:01] <sil2100> xavigarcia: yeah, sadly, a main package can only build-dep on main packages
[16:02] <xavigarcia> sil2100: it's going to be a problem, then I guess....
[16:02] <sil2100> Otherwise there's a component-mismatch
[16:02] <xavigarcia> sil2100: I see
[16:02] <sil2100> xavigarcia: if it's required and the both packages are still maintained by us, I guess we can look into getting them into main
[16:02] <sil2100> Then you could just leave those deps, but I'd need to check if it's possible and how much work would it need
[16:03] <xavigarcia> sil2100: ok...
[16:07] <jhodapp> robru, can you please dput qtmultimedia from ppa:jhodapp/ubuntu/ppa to the silo 9 ppa?
[16:07] <robru> jhodapp: one sec
[16:07] <jhodapp> k
[16:08] <robru> jhodapp: ok one, you can run the build job now to track it
[16:08] <jhodapp> robru, thanks man
[16:08] <robru> jhodapp: you're welcome
[16:21] <sil2100> alecu, xavigarcia: looking at the packages main-inclusion possibility in a minute
[16:21] <alecu> sil2100: xavigarcia is also looking at splitting the landing
[16:21] <alecu> sil2100: and taking the tests and new dependencies out, and trying to land them for OTA-9
[16:22] <alecu> sil2100: so, let me know if the main-inclusion is not possible, and we'll try to push that
[16:22] <alecu> sil2100: hopefully it can be solved in the way you propose, so we don't have to retest all the silo.
[16:24] <xavigarcia> alecu, sil2100: I already pushed the changes to remove the integration tests.... so if you think we can include those packages in main without issues please let me know so I can roll back
[16:25] <xavigarcia> alecu, sil2100: I'm rebuilding the silo, as it takes some time
[16:26] <alecu> xavigarcia: if you are rebuilding the silo we'll need QA approval again
[16:26] <alecu> xavigarcia: make sure to mention that there are no changes in the main code
[16:27] <sil2100> alecu, xavigarcia: ok, thanks guys
[16:27] <alecu> sil2100: thank you!
[16:32] <sil2100> alecu, xavigarcia: so, it looks like we could potentially get both packages rather easy to main, but let me double-confirm that
[16:43] <sil2100> alecu, xavigarcia: ok, filled in an MIR for unity-api, doko will be looking at it in a moment
[16:43] <sil2100> Fingers crossed it gets approved
[16:48] <sil2100> Ursinha: hey! Could you add me as an admin to the https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages team? :)
[16:50] <sil2100> Ursinha: since it's a team that's subscribed to a few touch packages and I see you're the only person in it
[16:50] <boiko> jibel: hi, I was wondering, do you think it is necessary to have QA verification on silo 000?
[16:51] <boiko> jibel: there are no code changes there, just changes to the CMake files to support cross compiling
[16:51] <Ursinha> sil2100: sure :) I'm on the move right now but as soon as I get to my computer I'll do that
[16:51] <sil2100> Thanks!
[16:52] <dbarth> hey
[16:53] <dbarth> i guess that's a sil2100 request ;)
[16:53] <dbarth> could you help me upload the latest oxide to silo 6?
[16:53] <dbarth> from https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~osomon/oxide-1.10.4-vivid-overlay/
[16:53] <sil2100> Oh my
[16:54] <sil2100> Sure, I'm on a sprint though, not sure if I won't thrash the internet for everyone when uploading it to the silo
[16:54] <sil2100> But I guess there's no one else that could do that right now ;)
[16:55] <dbarth> sil2100: uh, could be yes
[16:55] <sil2100> Downloading, will try doing that in a minute
[16:55] <dbarth> or is there someone else with you privs to do that? robru when he arrives?
[16:56] <sil2100> robru: is here with me as well
[16:56] <sil2100> ;)
[16:56] <robru> zzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz
[16:57] <dobey> rvr: the purchase button state returns to the correct state just fine here on my mako with the silo. are you sure it wasn't just being a little bit slow for you perhaps? or that the old pay-service wasn't left around running? did you reboot the phone after installing the silo?
[16:57] <alecu> sil2100: should we stop xavigarcia's build if you are moving forward with the MIR?
[16:58] <rvr> dobey: Yes, I rebooted the phone, and tested without the silo. Then reinstalled the silo (citrain reboots), and problem was back.
[16:59] <xavigarcia> sil2100: I'm afraid moving those packages to main is going to take more time, so I think that it's best to land now without those dependencies and land them for next OTA....
[16:59] <dobey> rvr: can i see your ~/.cache/upstart/dbus.log when that happens?
[16:59] <xavigarcia> sil2100, alecu: the new build for silo 46 is almost finished
[17:00] <dbarth> eh :)
[17:00] <sil2100> Ok, let's just leave it as is
[17:02] <oSoMoN> sil2100, would it help if I dput’d this source package in a PPA somewhere, and you triggered a source copy from the PPA to the silo?
[17:03] <rvr> dobey: Sure, let me reinstall it
[17:05] <dobey> rvr: ok thanks. this is very odd indeed. i need to go get lunch now though. thanks
[17:05] <dbarth> oSoMoN: i thought sil2100 needed to redo the changelog anyway
[17:06] <oSoMoN> dbarth, why would he need to do that?
[17:06] <sil2100> oSoMoN: that might help, if the package version has ~overlay1 in it
[17:06] <oSoMoN> sil2100, yeah, it does already, I prepared it with the overlay PPA in mind
[17:06] <dbarth> sil2100: it does
[17:06] <dbarth> ah, so then a ppa source copy can just work
[17:07] <oSoMoN> ok, let me see if I can push it to my personal PPA
[17:07] <dbarth> oSoMoN: you'll need the space quota upgraded
[17:08] <oSoMoN> not necessarily for the source package, although the build will fail because of lack of space, but that doesn’t matter much, what we’re interested in is the source package
[17:19] <Ursinha> sil2100: done, can you check if that's enough?
[17:25] <oSoMoN> sil2100, okay, you should now be able to do a source copy of oxide-qt 1.10.4-0ubuntu1~overlay1 from https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages to silo 6
[17:28] <sil2100> oSoMoN: thanks!
[17:28] <sil2100> Ursinha: looking :)
[17:29] <sil2100> Ursinha: could you also make me an admin of the team?
[17:30] <Ursinha> sil2100: done :) and now?
[17:31] <sil2100> Ursinha: excellent, thanks!
[17:34] <sil2100> oSoMoN: ok, I'll copy it over, but for the next release I would recomment using the sru versioning for the vivid package of oxide
[17:36] <sil2100> oSoMoN: you know, 1.10.4-0ubuntu0.15.10.1~overlay1 etc.
[17:37] <oSoMoN> sil2100, noted, I’ll keep that in mind for the next one
[17:38] <sil2100> oSoMoN: thanks! Package copied :)
[17:39] <oSoMoN> cheers
[17:53] <rvr> dobey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13093327/
[17:56] <dobey> rvr: that's the payui.log; i need to see dbus.log
[17:59] <rvr> dobey: Hmm
[18:00] <rvr> dobey: The button eventually changes back to the price, takes long, but it does
[18:00] <rvr> dobey: This is the dbus.log for a couple of requests http://paste.ubuntu.com/13093425/
[18:00] <dobey> rvr: how long did it take? here it's maybe 3-4 seconds; but i have 500 Mbps connection too
[18:01] <dobey> rvr: ok, looks like it's not logging an error there, at least. i wonder why it's taking so long for you though. for me, it's about the same amount of time for both versions of pay-service
[18:03] <rvr> dobey: Weird, I went to another app, and now it doesn't get the price back. 1 minute and counting...
[18:03] <rvr> dobey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13093503/
[18:04] <dobey> still no errors. hrmm
[18:07] <dobey> rvr: hmm, anything in unity8-dash.log ?
[18:10] <rvr> dobey: file:///usr/share/unity8//Components/LazyImage.qml:91:16: QML Image: Cannot open: file:///usr/share/unity8//Dash/Previews/broken_image
[18:10] <rvr> ** (process:2453): WARNING **: /build/pay-service-MZO9y2/pay-service-2.0.0+15.04.20151021.1/libpay/internal/package.cpp:223 item_properties variant has no sku or package_name entry
[18:11] <dobey> rvr: ok, thanks. looks like maybe something in libpay is awry. i'll see if i can track down what's going on there
[18:11] <rvr> dobey: Cool, thanks
[18:51] <xavigarcia_> trainguards, Hi! is there any problem building silos for arm64? I'm trying to build silo 46 but it's been waiting with the message: INFO arm64: Needs building
[19:16] <robru> xavigarcia_: looks like it just started. I guess the builders were just busy
[19:28] <xavigarcia_> robru: it finally finished... thanks!
[19:28] <robru> xavigarcia_: you're welcome. let me know if you need any more help
[21:45] <dobey> ToyKeeper: hey, are you around?
[21:45] <ToyKeeper> Hi.
[21:46] <dobey> ToyKeeper: can you test the rest of silo 26 please? rvr found an issue earlier today with the new pay-service, and i've fixed it and rebuilt pay-service in the silo now.
[21:47] <ToyKeeper> Sure, I'll take that one next. :)
[21:48] <dobey> ToyKeeper: great, thanks!
[21:58] <sil2100> Love queuebot's spamming
[22:14] <cjwatson> xavigarcia_: heh, the problem is that we have five builders and they aren't keeping up. we're in the process of commissioning scalingstack on arm64, which will fix this once it works properly
[22:23] * sil2100 waits for his ocaml rebuilds to get built on arm64
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-uos
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[14:24] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:31] <TJ-> Anyone know which codeces the video feed(s) are using? I found that Firefox 41.0.2 on 15.10 couldn't display the plenary video feed, despite HTML5/Video being enabled.
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.235199
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"channel": "#ubuntu-uos"
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-si
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[07:16] <zdobersek> me irl https://i.imgur.com/ETtz344.jpg
[07:23] <napsy__> jutro
[07:29] <pitastrudl> jutro
[07:29] <zdobersek> so what!
[07:30] <pitastrudl> ayyy lmao
[07:34] <zdobersek> also, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/11/dji-tempts-developers-with-new-ubuntu-computer-for-drones/
[07:34] <Pepelka> DJI tempts developers with new Ubuntu computer for drones | Ars Technica
[07:34] <Pepelka> »Ubuntu boosts development possibilities on the Matrice 100 drone.«
[07:57] <idioterna> tega sm mislu vcerej
[07:57] <idioterna> https://blogs.dropbox.com/tech/2015/09/open-sourcing-zulip-a-dropbox-hack-week-project/
[07:57] <Pepelka> Open Sourcing Zulip – a Dropbox Hack Week Project | Dropbox Tech Blog
[07:57] <Pepelka> »This year’s Dropbox Hack Week saw some incredible projects take shape – from the talented team that visited Baltimore to research food deserts, to a project to recreate the fictional Pied Piper algorithm from HBO's Silicon Valley.«
[07:59] <zdobersek> Condoleezza approves?
[07:59] <idioterna> no idea
[07:59] <idioterna> na githubu je zdej sauce
[07:59] <idioterna> https://github.com/zulip
[07:59] <Pepelka> Zulip · GitHub
[07:59] <Pepelka> »GitHub is where people build software. More than 11 million people use GitHub to discover, fork, and contribute to over 28 million projects.«
[08:11] <CrazyLemon> zulip..sounds like a refugee
[09:10] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enu-qR0H_uk #flipphone
[09:10] <Pepelka> Sir David Attenborough narrates Adele's Hello - YouTube
[09:10] <Pepelka> »Adele's Hello video gets the Sir David Attenborough voice over treatment on Greg James. Watch more from Radio 1 in the UK on BBC iPlayer http://www.bbc.co.uk...«
[09:15] <CrazyLemon> Hello!
[09:15] <zdobersek> ITSA ME
[09:15] <CrazyLemon> Mario?
[09:27] <CrazyLemon> .imdb supergirl
[09:27] <jabuk> Supergirl (TV Series 2015– ) 43 min Action Adventure Sci Fi
[09:27] <jabuk> Ocena: 6.3/10 (8,239 glasov) MT: 89 user
[09:27] <jabuk> The adventures of Superman's cousin in her own superhero career.
[09:27] <jabuk> Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi4058624793/
[09:27] <jabuk> Povezava: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4016454/
[09:27] <CrazyLemon> lol
[09:27] <CrazyLemon> cousin
[09:33] <idioterna> she said she didn't love him anymore, but they could still be cousins
[10:07] <zdobersek> so what!
[10:28] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek you are such a supergirl
[10:29] <zdobersek> and supergirls don't cry
[10:29] <idioterna> sudogirl
[10:32] <slax0r> super user do girl?
[12:34] <upd> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/02/23/2E0D4E7800000578-3301042-image-a-2_1446506278946.jpg
[12:36] <dz0ny> lol
[12:40] <zdobersek> kje je fora?
[12:42] <CrazyLemon> fora je da 50 cent coin okrogel!
[12:42] <zdobersek> odgovor je 60deg
[12:42] <zdobersek> fyfi
[12:42] * zdobersek still has it
[12:43] <CrazyLemon> do you really
[12:46] <zdobersek> fyea
[13:18] <CrazyLemon> http://nova24tv.si/aktualno/v-sentilju-in-dobovi-brez-oddiha-pet-vlakov-in-pet-avtobusov-z-migranti/
[13:18] <Pepelka> Bolje bi bilo, če bi gradili drugi tir in ne drugega perona. Migranti tokrat proti Kopru. | Nova24TV
[13:18] <Pepelka> »Odpira se nova, tretja migrantska balkanska pot v Nemčijo, in sicer preko Kopra. Trenutna pot skozi Brežice in Šentilj je za njih namreč prepočasna, bojijo pa se tudi zaprtja avstrijske meje. Do Nemčije želijo preko Italije. Po polni zasedenosti naših nastanitvenih centrov in preobremenjenosti naših policistov, vojakov in humantiarnih delavcev, se podoben scenarij kot v Brežicah in Šentilju obeta še v Kopru. Kot poroča hrvaški Jutarnj
[13:19] <CrazyLemon> lol
[13:20] <slax0r> CrazyLemon: lahko jih par posvojis
[13:20] <slax0r> stlacis jih v klet, in prisilis da si zapomnijo random stevilke in ne rabis vec diskovja
[13:20] <slax0r> bos mel live "hard" drive
[13:20] <CrazyLemon> slax0r sure.. če so mlade in sexy zakaj pa ne!
[13:21] <Matthai> mlade, sexy, pa še številke znajo!
[13:21] <Matthai> hoooot!
[13:24] <CrazyLemon> dovolj sta dve številki.. 0 pa 1!
[13:51] <zdobbie> zdobersek: ping
[13:51] <zdobbie> k
[14:04] <netkat> https://github.com/rimraf/k
[14:04] <Pepelka> rimraf/k · GitHub
[14:04] <Pepelka> »k is the new l, yo«
[14:13] <CrazyLemon> thats just dumb
[14:15] <netkat> k
[14:30] <upd> bitcoin bubble is getting bigger :)
[14:31] <CrazyLemon> https://github.com/feross/webtorrent
[14:31] <Pepelka> feross/webtorrent · GitHub
[14:31] <Pepelka> »webtorrent - :zap: Streaming torrent client for node & the browser«
[14:32] <upd> http://imgur.com/gallery/sH2tqKT
[14:32] <Pepelka> This gif makes me uncomfortable. So I figured it was best if I shared it with all of you. - GIF on Imgur
[14:32] <Pepelka> »Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet.«
[14:32] <pitko> ja zdej k ni več obtavčen uradno :P
[14:32] <pitko> obdavčen*
[14:43] <upd> tud to
[14:44] <pitko> drgač pa se pomojm se zmeri ne splača rudart
[14:45] <upd> https://t.co/v67RA8LsoZ
[14:46] <pitko> kva jih majnaš? :P
[14:47] <upd> ne, se mi ne splača
[14:47] <upd> https://99bitcoins.com/c/btc/mining lahk si pa izračunaš
[14:47] <pitko> sam preprodajaš
[14:47] <pitko> ne nebom majnov :D
[14:47] <upd> trgujem
[14:47] <pitko> sm sprobal mislm poznam folk k je majnov pa ni slo glih po nacrtih
[14:48] <pitko> kuk si mel začetnega kapitala?
[14:48] <upd> 100 1 leto nazaj pa še parkrat po 10
[14:49] <pitko> kuk maš +
[14:50] <upd> 0
[14:50] <pitko> :)
[14:50] <pitko> dobr
[14:50] <upd> mja se sam učim pa forex
[14:51] <upd> 10€ je dost za 2-3 mesece
[14:51] <pitko> za forexe?
[14:51] <upd> da
[14:51] <pitko> kje pa jih trguješ
[14:51] <pitko> o tem tut jaz razmišlam
[14:51] <upd> admiralmarkets.si
[14:52] <pitko> jaz sm sicer plus500
[14:52] <pitko> mal problaval tako najprej virtualno
[14:52] <upd> tam sem zapravil že vse :) 3 račune
[14:52] <upd> k si dobil 20€ free
[14:53] <pitko> :)
[14:53] <pitko> kako to da si se dal v to ?
[14:53] <upd> zakon mi je
[14:54] <pitko> ja sam k moraš dost teorije vedet
[14:54] <upd> pač zažel sem z crypto kovanci
[14:54] <upd> teorija izkušnje vse vse
[14:54] <pitko> maš kej podlage iz ekonomije?
[14:54] <upd> če misleš it v forex, lahko pozabiš prvi 2 leti kaj dobička
[14:55] <upd> ne rabiš znat ekonomije
[14:55] <Pepelka> https://www.coinbase.com/join/davidseaman
[14:55] <Pepelka> Accurate Bitcoin Mining Calculator for SHA-256 Mining
[14:55] <Pepelka> »The Bitcoin Mining Calculator will calculate BTC profitability in terms of USD and Bitcoin. See what your SHA-256 mining rig can do.«
[14:55] <pitko> ja kva pa?
[14:55] <pitko> :D
[14:56] <upd> vzorve večinoma, pa indikatorje
[14:56] <upd> vzorce*
[14:56] <upd> https://www.tradingview.com/chart/EURUSD/
[14:56] <Pepelka> EUR / USD - Forex Chart and Quote - EURO / US DOLLAR - TradingView
[14:56] <Pepelka> »EURUSD quotes and charts. EURUSD Headlines, Ideas, News.«
[14:57] <upd> !yt forex trading basic
[14:57] <jabuk> An introduction to the basics of Forex Trading https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14FbmDpoTdE
[14:57] <upd> !yt trading indicators
[14:57] <jabuk> Best Trading Indicator? -- The Stochastic. Great tips on using this powerful tool! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gSjHkxlhXQ
[14:57] <upd> dost je materiala za učit se
[14:59] <pitko> ja ql nč grem jaz na predavanje pridm prec :D
[14:59] <upd> ok
[15:08] <pitko> evo me nazaj
[15:09] <pitko> :D
[15:10] <pitko> k mamo tle nek history pogovora?
[15:13] <napsy__> menda se logira vse
[15:15] <pitko> kam pa?
[15:15] <pitko> nč posebnga neki bi sam pogledu k mi je preh ups napisal eno stran
[15:15] <pitko> pa sm vmes zamenal komp
[15:16] <pitko> :)
[15:16] <matjaz> pitko: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/03/#ubuntu-si.txt
[15:16] <Pepelka> Index of /2015/11/03
[15:17] <zdobersek> SOVA ma ekstra kopije
[15:17] <zdobersek> ce rabte
[15:17] <zdobersek> (06:59:01 AM) pitko: ja ql nč grem jaz na predavanje pridm prec :D
[15:17] <zdobersek> ...
[15:17] <zdobersek> (07:08:09 AM) pitko: evo me nazaj
[15:17] <matjaz> zdobersek: uro prestavi :)
[15:18] <zdobersek> 'tis but the local time
[15:18] <pitko> lol
[15:18] <pitko> :D
[15:18] <pitko> dobr dan vse
[15:18] <pitko> vsem*
[15:18] <pitko> po dolgem času
[15:46] <CrazyLemon> evo sovina kopija http://triton.gfd.si/ubuntu/ubuntu-si-3-11-2015.html
[15:46] <Pepelka> #ubuntu-si: 3-11-2015
[15:46] <Pepelka> »Ubuntu Slovenija na #ubuntu-si@freenode: 3-11-2015«
[15:46] <CrazyLemon> sam da je tale real time.. ne tko kot irclogs
[15:47] <pitastrudl> jutro
[15:47] <pitastrudl> i mean
[15:47] <pitastrudl> lp
[15:47] <pitastrudl> lol
[15:58] <CrazyLemon> lol
[15:58] <CrazyLemon> i mean
[15:58] <CrazyLemon> lp
[16:07] <pitastrudl> lol
[16:08] <pitastrudl> hm
[16:08] <pitastrudl> tri pa pol tedne brez cigareta, želja še vedno tm, tak mal
[16:08] <pitastrudl> al sm pač samo nervozen
[16:08] <pitastrudl> ¯\(°_o)/¯
[16:09] <pitastrudl> morm si ene tekaške superge kupit pa da se grem zlaufat na bonifiko vsake tok cajta
[16:09] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon kaj veš, tam je prost vstop?
[16:09] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl ja..sej ne rabiš it tam kjer igrajo nogomet
[16:09] <CrazyLemon> imaš okrog cele bonifike krog
[16:09] <CrazyLemon> ravno 1km dolg
[16:09] <pitastrudl> mislmim ne bonifika
[16:10] <pitastrudl> tam zraven
[16:10] <CrazyLemon> sej tisto je tudi bonifika :)
[16:10] <pitastrudl> je tut nek tartan
[16:10] <pitastrudl> ja no
[16:10] <CrazyLemon> ja
[16:10] <pitastrudl> ja tam
[16:10] <pitastrudl> si to mislil?
[16:10] <CrazyLemon> ja
[16:10] <pitastrudl> tam je prost vstop?
[16:10] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl lol..itak
[16:10] <pitastrudl> ok
[16:10] <CrazyLemon> to je tko kot bi vprašal a je prost vstop v park tivoli
[16:10] <CrazyLemon> :D
[16:10] <pitastrudl> a je?
[16:10] <pitastrudl> jk
[16:10] <pitastrudl> hhuehue
[16:11] <CrazyLemon> sej podnevi je tudi tam pri stadionu odprto
[16:11] <CrazyLemon> in lahko laufaš na 400m progi
[16:11] <pitastrudl> aha
[16:13] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl a na faxu nimate telovadbe?
[16:13] <pitastrudl> lol ne
[16:13] <pitastrudl> wtf
[16:13] <CrazyLemon> ni wtf.. fri ima oz. je imel
[16:14] <CrazyLemon> in je prav da se jo ima! more ECTS!
[16:14] <CrazyLemon> :>
[16:15] <CrazyLemon> http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_bang_theory/news/1004869/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-to-appear-on-upcoming-episode-of-the-big-bang-theory/
[16:15] <CrazyLemon> !
[16:15] <Pepelka> Tesla CEO Elon Musk To Appear On Upcoming Episode Of The Big Bang Theory - CBS.com
[16:16] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon kaj pomeni ta kratica
[16:16] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl evropski sistem točk na faksih
[16:16] <pitastrudl> ok
[16:19] <zdobersek> kdo se sploh gleda to sranje
[16:38] <zdobersek> kdo se sploh gleda to kretenstvo
[16:43] <CrazyLemon> srsly
[16:43] <CrazyLemon> i have to kick you again
[16:43] <CrazyLemon> zakaj si tko trmast
[16:46] <zdobersek> ker se ponizujes
[16:46] <pitastrudl> lel
[16:46] <zdobersek> amirite.com/yesheis
[16:52] <CrazyLemon> lol
[16:56] <dz0ny> pitastrudl: men se zdi da ti hods sam jest na faks
[16:56] <pitastrudl> why
[16:56] <dz0ny> ce ne ves kaj ects pomen
[16:57] <pitastrudl> lol
[16:57] <zdobersek> oh snap
[16:57] <pitastrudl> ne, jest hodim k tebi
[16:57] <pitastrudl> :P
[16:57] <dz0ny> k v osnovi je to edin kr te more skrbet na faksu :D
[16:57] <zdobersek> OH SNAP RIGHT BACK AT 'IM
[16:57] <dz0ny> pitastrudl: kam? :D
[16:58] <dz0ny> aja na kanal
[16:58] <dz0ny> afc, we know that
[16:58] <zdobersek> obeduje pri tebi, pravi
[16:58] <dz0ny> ok
[17:27] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: https://github.com/Sioro-Neoku/go-peerflix
[17:27] <Pepelka> Sioro-Neoku/go-peerflix · GitHub
[17:27] <Pepelka> »go-peerflix - Go Peerflix«
[18:28] <zdobersek> http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/3/9664740/jon-stewart-hbo-four-year-deal
[18:28] <Pepelka> Jon Stewart has signed a four-year contract with HBO | The Verge
[18:28] <Pepelka> »Jon Stewart is heading back to work. HBO just announced that the former Daily Show host has signed a four-year production pact with the cable company. The comedian's next job will be to focus on...«
[18:56] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny no ja.. its a good start ampak
[18:56] <CrazyLemon> cli..meh
[18:57] <CrazyLemon> da bi vsaj mel ikonco v unityju pol pa povlečeš gor torrent file
[18:57] <CrazyLemon> pa ti odpre vlc in začne predvajat
[18:57] <CrazyLemon> :)
[19:01] <zdobbie> ja sprogramirej
[19:02] <CrazyLemon> ti sprogramirej!
[19:02] <CrazyLemon> sam govoriš!
[19:02] <zdobbie> placaj
[19:02] <zdobbie> ker si dober decko, ti dam popust
[19:02] <zdobbie> 90EUR/h
[19:02] <CrazyLemon> capitalist bastard
[19:03] <idioterna> ja cenejsi je od mene
[19:03] <zdobbie> 190EUR*
[19:03] <idioterna> aja
[19:03] <zdobbie> sry
[19:03] <CrazyLemon> 19*
[19:03] <idioterna> no pol pa men povej kaj rabs
[19:03] <idioterna> js nardim skor pol cnej
[19:03] <zdobbie> a ti mu prav neb popusta dal
[19:04] <idioterna> odvisn kva je treba nardit
[19:05] <idioterna> za unity zihr nam popusta daju
[19:05] <idioterna> ce bo switchnu na kde, pol mogoce
[19:05] <CrazyLemon> nič ni potrebno narest.. en .desktop file pa je to to!
[19:05] <zdobbie> huhu
[19:05] <zdobbie> to je 4h komot
[19:05] <CrazyLemon> pa raje plačam zdobbieju kot pa da switcham na kde!
[19:05] <zdobbie> oh snap
[19:16] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny a je kak ppa za go?
[19:17] <dz0ny> gobu
[19:17] <dz0ny> :D
[19:17] <CrazyLemon> očitno ima 14.04 staro različico gor
[19:17] <CrazyLemon> in peerflix vrže gazilion napak
[19:17] <CrazyLemon> !g gobu ppa
[19:17] <Pepelka> ThinkPad Extras : linrunner - Launchpad https://launchpad.net/~linrunner/+archive/ubuntu/thinkpad-extras
[19:17] <dz0ny> https://github.com/dz0ny/gobu/releases
[19:17] <Pepelka> Releases · dz0ny/gobu · GitHub
[19:17] <Pepelka> »gobu - Painless bootstrapping of golang«
[19:18] <dz0ny> preneseš chmod+x ./gobu; ./gobu
[19:18] <dz0ny> go get github.com/Sioro-Neoku/go-peerflix
[19:18] <dz0ny> ./go-peerflix magnet||torrrent
[19:19] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny a to prepiše trenutni go ki je inštaliran?
[19:19] <dz0ny> ne
[19:19] <CrazyLemon> ZAKAJ NE?! :/
[19:19] <dz0ny> to go namesti pod ~/.local
[19:19] <dz0ny> zato ker so neumno nardil
[19:19] <dz0ny> ne morš nič delat
[19:20] <dz0ny> razen da kup env spremeniš
[19:20] <CrazyLemon> torej lahko izbrišem ta goxcc-gokarkoli pač?
[19:20] <dz0ny> mhm
[19:20] <CrazyLemon> a moram linkat go bin v sbin ?
[19:20] <dz0ny> nič :)
[19:20] <dz0ny> sam kernel mora pexecv podpirat :)
[19:20] <CrazyLemon> 2015/11/03 20:20:26 >> You are now in a new GOBU shell. To exit, type 'exit'
[19:20] <CrazyLemon> crazy@pingo:~/Namizje$
[19:20] <CrazyLemon> lies!
[19:21] <dz0ny> napiš which go
[19:21] <CrazyLemon> kul
[19:22] <zdobbie> that's not a go!
[19:24] <dz0ny> also k smo že pri ubuntu https://github.com/dz0ny/cdeb
[19:24] <Pepelka> dz0ny/cdeb · GitHub
[19:24] <Pepelka> »cdeb - Just like fpm but in go and only for deb... Why? Because who has time to deal with ruby«
[19:24] <dz0ny> or dpkg-* stuff
[19:33] <CrazyLemon> hmm
[19:33] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny nekaj downloada tale tvoj peerflix
[19:33] <CrazyLemon> sam ne odpre vlcja
[19:34] <CrazyLemon> a je file v tmp tačas?
[19:34] <dz0ny> mja tist je za osx
[19:34] <dz0ny> sam opri z vlch
[19:34] <dz0ny> http://localhost:8080
[19:34] <Pepelka> ISPConfig
[19:34] <dz0ny> OOO
[19:34] <dz0ny> haha
[19:34] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny čaki..a ne odpre pol samodejno?
[19:34] <CrazyLemon> meeeeeeeh..wtf no
[19:34] <dz0ny> ja popravi :)
[19:35] <CrazyLemon> ja ti popravi..ti si mi dal link!
[19:36] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: https://github.com/Sioro-Neoku/go-peerflix/blob/master/main.go#L59 :D
[19:36] <Pepelka> go-peerflix/main.go at master · Sioro-Neoku/go-peerflix · GitHub
[19:36] <Pepelka> »go-peerflix - Go Peerflix«
[19:36] <dz0ny> git clone https://github.com/Sioro-Neoku/go-peerflix/
[19:36] <Pepelka> Sioro-Neoku/go-peerflix · GitHub
[19:36] <Pepelka> »go-peerflix - Go Peerflix«
[19:36] <dz0ny> go build .
[19:37] <CrazyLemon> you are talking jibberish now
[19:37] <CrazyLemon> čemu bi buildal če sm zdaj ga prenesel?
[19:38] <dz0ny> jah ce pa ne znaš odpret vlcja ročno no :D
[19:38] <dz0ny> popravi da bo odprl vlc
[19:38] <dz0ny> ne un cudn osx
[19:38] <dz0ny> vlc
[19:38] <CrazyLemon> raje mu submitaj PR! :)
[19:39] <CrazyLemon> kaj je ta open pa -a ?
[19:39] <CrazyLemon> a to je osx fora al kaj?
[19:39] <dz0ny> mislim tud za linux sam ne za appe :)
[19:43] <CrazyLemon> ok..i did that
[19:43] <CrazyLemon> sam nekdo bi res mogu submitat en PR
[19:44] <CrazyLemon> pa ni mi všeč da ko zapreš vlc
[19:44] <CrazyLemon> da on še naprej downloada v ozadju
[19:44] <CrazyLemon> uncool dude..uncool
[19:45] <dz0ny> Sky[x]: a si vidu CrazyLemon tud zdeh golang hacka :D
[19:45] <dz0ny> kam smo pršli :D
[19:45] <Sky[x]> hehe vidu ja :P
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> ful sm pohekal..zbrisal 'open' pa '-a' ter pognal go build .
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> :)
[19:46] <Sky[x]> dz0ny: se mi zdi da golang bo ratal nek vse splosen jezik :)
[19:47] <dz0ny> next php :D
[19:47] <dz0ny> sam rust, rust se blazno rine nekam spredi
[19:48] <dz0ny> sam men ni všeč
[19:48] <dz0ny> k bi zmešal php pa python pa ruby
[19:48] <dz0ny> ugly as hell
[19:50] <CrazyLemon> evo..odpru sm issue zdaj pa naj se on matra s tem :P
[19:52] <CrazyLemon> kje bi dobu kak legal torrent movie?
[19:52] <CrazyLemon> pa da ni big bucks bunny ker je ta samo 1080p in šteka na moji povezavi :)
[19:53] <idioterna> elephant's dream
[19:54] <dz0ny> go-peerflix http://cf1.vuze.com/vhdn/channels/48/KJ/KJFB/KJFBMA/NASA_EDGE%3A_RaD-X_Launch%5BV004845330%5D.mp4.torrent
[19:55] <CrazyLemon> sm najdu sintel..hvala vseeno idioterna
[19:55] <dz0ny> http://www.vuze.com/content/channel.php?id=55&name=TEDTalks%20(hd)
[19:55] <Pepelka> Vuze Content
[19:55] <Pepelka> »Vuze is the easiest to use and the best torrent download software on the internet.«
[19:55] <dz0ny> drugace polno tega
[19:57] <CrazyLemon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17510489/go-peerflix-unity-launcher.png
[19:57] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ^ evo..sm si naredu launcher :D
[19:58] <CrazyLemon> sam drag&drop torrent file gor
[19:58] <CrazyLemon> sam škoda ker moram met terminal odprt
[20:00] <dz0ny> http://i.imgur.com/2YWACXq.jpg
[21:16] <CrazyLemon> https://air.mozilla.org/view-source-tuesday-pm-session/ evo web developerji
[21:16] <Pepelka> View Source: Tuesday PM Session | Air Mozilla | Mozilla, in Video
[21:16] <Pepelka> »View Source is a brand new conference for web developers, presented by Mozilla and friends, produced by the folks who also bring you the Mozilla...«
[21:33] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: mozilla je tolk zadaj v dev techu da ni zanimiva
[21:34] <dz0ny> to kr se grejo sedaj je da vsaj malo spodbudijo zanimanje
[22:10] <yang> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Mostar_Br%C3%BCckenspringer_Trevor_Multi.jpg
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[15:23] <genii> Is there someplace a comprehensive UOS schedule or itinerary?
[15:25] <TJ-> http://summit.ubuntu.com
[15:27] <dholbach> genii, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/ - and for today that's http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/2015-11-03/
[15:27] <dholbach> genii, if you log into summit and "star" sessions, you can even have your own schedule
[15:27] <genii> dholbach: Excellent, thanks!
[15:29] <TJ-> dholbach: do we have any IRC location for resolving issues? I found that Firefox 41.0.2 on 15.10 couldn't show the Plenary video from Youtube, despite HTML5/Video enabled
[15:29] <dholbach> that's weird
[15:30] <dholbach> #ubuntu-uos is the general UOS channel
[15:30] <TJ-> Hmmm, I'll try that then. I couldn't find out what the encoding was when it reported it wasn't supported, which didn't really help diagnosis
[15:33] <TJ-> What is weird is, it plays now it isn't live
[15:54] <dholbach> hey hey... frameworks session coming up in a bit
[15:55] <dholbach> ping me if you want to contribute to and join the session
[16:00] <dholbach> as the other snappy session started a bit late, I guess we can wait for more snappy folks to turn up here
[16:01] <dholbach> we'll start shortly
[16:01] <dholbach> anyone else here who wants to join the conversation about frameworks?
[16:01] <dholbach> ^ (and come on to the video feed?)
[16:03] <lool> dholbach: who's leading the session?
[16:03] <dholbach> lool, mvo and I are there
[16:03] <dholbach> can you all join as well?
[16:03] <dholbach> happy to share the link
[16:03] <lool> I will join in a couple minutes
[16:06] <lool> dholbach: what's the link?
[16:06] <dholbach> lool, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfTPVxSDasP04fkgsxqqZjoaFtPsUX-CGILTyRwImLH6MtzNQ
[16:08] <kyrofa> Does mir count since it's only available on amd64?
[16:08] <dholbach> kyrofa, ah yes - I'll note that down
[16:09] <dholbach> noting down things on http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-core-1511-new-snappy-frameworks
[16:11] <dholbach> if you have questions or suggestions, please bring them up
[16:11] <tedg> kyrofa: It's still a framework, even if it's not on all archs :-)
[16:18] <tedg> I think it's important to note that an individual snap could do its own overlay internally.
[16:18] <tedg> So each framework/snap developer can choose how she wants to handle the issue.
[16:18] <tedg> Doing something universally don't seem to make as much sense as letting a framework make its own choices.
[16:21] <asac_online> think overlayfs was 3.18 iirc
[16:22] <asac_online> overlayfs could be made an opt in feature that prevents snaps from isntalling on systems that do not have that CAPABILITY
[16:22] <tedg> Frameworks could make their own preload bin for the snap as well.
[16:23] <tedg> That is scary universally, but doing it for a specific case isn't as big of worry.
[16:23] <asac_online> however, core frameworks that should enable our ecosystem shouldnt rely on that :)
[16:24] <asac_online> i dont like moving baseline to 3.18 for all systems. its nice, but then there will always be neat new things in latest kernels. if we can combine such features with capabilities it might work, but then we fragment the app ecosystem
[16:24] <asac_online> lool: mvo: ^
[16:25] <lool> I wish you were on the ho to say it :-)
[16:25] <asac_online> still believe for key things we should just invest and make them relocatable
[16:25] <asac_online> :)
[16:26] <tedg> I think that is generally just additions to the service declaration.
[16:27] <tedg> I don't think it's as much a dependency issue, as much as, if you give people access how the lifecycle of your processes are done.
[16:28] <asac_online> you express with capabilities :)
[16:28] <Chipaca> doesn't 3.18 already leave odroid out?
[16:28] <asac_online> 3.18 leaves many things out
[16:28] <Chipaca> k
[16:28] <ogra_> yeah :(((
[16:28] <asac_online> i think overlayfs should be an option
[16:29] <asac_online> but not for the main framewroks
[16:29] <ogra_> if we want to support phones ever we need to support 3.10
[16:29] <asac_online> sure
[16:29] <asac_online> but phone vertical doesnt necessarily have that problem
[16:30] <kyrofa> ogra_, and that's only arale
[16:30] <asac_online> the apps are already relocatable
[16:30] <ogra_> kyrofa, really ? you know what kind of weird BSP kernels future devices will have ?
[16:30] <ogra_> :P
[16:30] <kyrofa> ogra_, I mean krillin and vegetahd are even older, haha
[16:30] <ogra_> yeah
[16:31] <ogra_> but for them there are lollipop trees, i would assume they also have newer kernels we could use
[16:31] <diwic> I'm here and I heard the word "PulseAudio"
[16:31] <dobey> what kerenel are we using on mako?
[16:31] <diwic> :-)
[16:32] <ogra_> dobey, i think thats also 3.10
[16:32] <ogra_> not sure though ... apt could tell you, it is in the archive ;)
[16:32] <diwic> But I don't quite follow enough of difference between frameworks and snaps and inter-framework dependencies and whatnot
[16:32] <dobey> 3.4.0-7-mako
[16:32] <diwic> to know what to do if I should do something
[16:32] <dobey> 3.4 apparently :)
[16:32] <dobey> uname -r tells me that anyway
[16:32] <Chipaca> diwic: there are no inter-fwk deps
[16:33] <kyrofa> dobey, 3.4
[16:33] <kyrofa> dobey, mako, krillin and vegetahd are all 3.4, arale is 3.10
[16:33] <diwic> Chipaca, but if we have one bluetooth framework and one audio framework, how can we get bluetooth audio?
[16:33] <tedg> User switching, sessions.
[16:34] <Chipaca> diwic: presumably, if they're built that way, you could have those frameworks cooperate, as long as they don't depend on eachother
[16:34] <diwic> Chipaca, actually, that's a bad example because the audio framework can look if the bluez stuff is on d-bus and act accordingly
[16:34] <tedg> I imagine there'll need to be a framework for switching which user is using the display, keyboard and mouse.
[16:34] <Chipaca> diwic: exactly
[16:34] <tedg> And then if you have a user session, then which application is shown or managed.
[16:34] <tedg> Basically lightdm and unity8.
[16:34] <dobey> we should probably update the mako kernel to the newer version
[16:34] <tedg> But we'll need to be more than just that project.
[16:34] <dobey> if we can
[16:35] <niemeyer_> I think eventually we'll have dependencies between snaps, and potentially frameworks, via the capability system
[16:35] <niemeyer_> B
[16:36] <niemeyer_> But it's still a bit early for details on that
[16:36] <kyrofa> dobey, not sure who's decision that is. But yeah, it's pretty old
[16:36] <kyrofa> dobey, it's our reference kernel, though. I'm not sure mako can be updated without the others
[16:37] <dobey> kyrofa: we should update the others too. :)
[16:37] <tedg> Not sure how we can exactly handle the case of not having the framework, but having a soft dependency. As the framework installs the security configuration for accessing it, but it is built and install time. So I guess we'll need to make those much more dynamic if we want to be able to support that.
[16:37] <morphis> dobey, kyrofa: we can't update any of those
[16:38] <morphis> without spending a lot of time getting them running again
[16:38] <diwic> Another question is Gstreamer - is that a framework or snap? And what does it depend on w r t audio/video frameworks etc?
[16:38] <morphis> they are heavily customized kernels for products
[16:38] <tedg> diwic: Generally, it should be a library included by the app. The hard part there is the HW enabled plugins.
[16:38] <diwic> tedg, hmm
[16:39] <diwic> tedg, same goes for qtmultimedia then? Also included by the app?
[16:39] <tedg> diwic: Correct
[16:40] <kyrofa> diwic, snapcraft should help you there
[16:40] <tedg> Nothing is a framework, except the things that are :-)
[16:42] <tedg> lool: The problem is that there are some specific GStreamer programs for DSPs. i.e. optimized MPEG 4
[16:42] <lool> good point
[16:42] * diwic tries to google for "snapcraft" and finds that top 5 results for "snapcraft" are all minecraft related
[16:43] <dholbach> developer.ubuntu.com/snappy/build-apps
[16:43] <dholbach> or snapcraft on github
[16:43] <tedg> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft
[16:43] <niemeyer__> Frameworks are a big gun.. they can do anything.. I feel like people are curious to what is the proper way to integrate or design a framework, and the honest true unfortunately is that it depends
[16:43] * tedg has that link ready for later ;-)
[16:43] <kyrofa> diwic, heh, always prepend your Google's regarding snappy with "ubuntu"
[16:43] <niemeyer__> honest truth
[16:43] <diwic> thanks
[16:47] <alecu> QUESTION: is OpenGL a framework, or should it be considered a dependency?
[16:47] <niemeyer__> The video stream is breaking down often for me.. is it just me?
[16:47] <asac_online> video is good here
[16:47] <alecu> niemeyer__: I can see it ok here
[16:47] <dholbach> niemeyer__, for me it's been fine all the time
[16:47] <niemeyer__> Ok, thanks
[16:47] <tedg> niemeyer__: I think that generally, we need to provide some design guidelines at least for the main cases. Otherwise we'll continually have the same discussions.
[16:48] <niemeyer__> tedg: It's really hard to have design guidelines for this, because in general frameworks mediate access to resources which tend to be very different in nature
[16:48] <tedg> Clearly every rule has some exceptions, but we can't expect good things to happen without some guides.
[16:49] <lool> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/frameworks/
[16:49] <diwic> I think that if we have like 10-15 examples of what is a framework and what is a snap, that should give people a gut feeling for what something is
[16:49] <tedg> +1 dholbach
[16:50] <niemeyer__> alecu: OpenGL is the API.. not a good framework by itself..
[16:51] <lool> https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-examples
[16:52] <Chipaca> lool: the dbus fwk example isn't there, fwiw
[16:52] <tedg> Seems like something we need to prioritize.
[16:52] <lool> Chipaca: oh no
[16:52] <alecu> niemeyer__: so, should I ship client side libraries for OpenGL in my snap? I ask because client side OpenGL libraries usually depend on each specific hardware
[16:52] <Chipaca> there's a framework-template though
[16:52] <lool> Chipaca: isn't that http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-examples/files/head:/hello-dbus/package-dir-fwk/ ?
[16:52] <Chipaca> also, they're also on github: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy-testdata
[16:53] <diwic> Chipaca, that's a more interesting one. Can we get bluetooth framework without dbus framework?
[16:53] <lool> Chipaca: it's dbus based AFAIK
[16:53] <alecu> niemeyer__: and I'll need to use that from my QML apps
[16:53] <Chipaca> alecu: we've got the same problem with mir
[16:53] <asac_online> thx
[16:53] <alecu> niemeyer__: anyway, this is the kind of things I'd like to discuss in the "Snaps for the Phone" session later today :-)
[16:53] <Chipaca> alecu: where the client-side libraries depend on the server abi
[16:54] <lool> Chipaca: bus-name: "com.canonical.hello-dbus-fwk"
[16:54] <Chipaca> alecu: no really good answer for that and opengl yet, however
[16:54] <alecu> Chipaca: right
[16:54] <Chipaca> alecu: (IOW: feedback needed!)
[16:54] <tedg> Chipaca: Well hopefully that one can be solved with capabilities? Where you put the mir protocols you're capable of.
[16:54] <lool> it's the example I had in mind, but you might know of nicer ones
[16:55] <diwic> morphis, bluez is quite useless without d-bus, right?
[16:55] <alecu> thanks all for the session! I need to catch up with the first half, since I had a conflicting meeting though :-)
[16:57] <niemeyer__> alecu, Chipaca: Yes, indeed it's a good case to study.. part of it is definitely within a framework as there's sharing to be done (we don't want the GPU taken over by a single snap)
[17:01] <Chipaca> ok, bye people
[19:00] <snappy_car> !seen skynet
[19:00] <udsbotu> I have no seen command
[19:00] <snappy_car> :(
[19:02] <dholbach> if anyone of you wants join the conversation or the hangout, ping me and I'll give you the link to the hangout
[19:03] <dholbach> if you have any questions, I can relay them
[19:03] <snappy_car> QUESTION: when will the phones use snaps?
[19:04] <dobey> as soon as there's enough feature parity in snaps to transition from clicks by default
[19:04] <snappy_car> i see, thanks
[19:05] <dobey> it'll be possible to install snaps before everything is switched over, and it'll be possible to install clicks for a bit after everything is switched over, i think
[19:06] <snappy_car> can clicks and snaps coexist?
[19:07] <tedg> So do you pull in the required dependencies when you convert the click to a snap?
[19:07] <tedg> QUESTION: So do you pull in the required dependencies when you convert the click to a snap?
[19:07] <snappy_car> omg you sust installed a click on the desktopm?
[19:07] <snappy_car> OMG
[19:07] <snappy_car> a snap
[19:08] <snappy_car> so that snap is x86?
[19:08] <snappy_car> right?
[19:09] <nhaines> snappy_car: yes.
[19:09] <nhaines> Although I think they can be fat, too.
[19:09] <snappy_car> nice, now i need crackly
[19:10] <nhaines> Actually, the calculator might be universal (QML + JS)
[19:10] <nhaines> But if it's C++, it has to be cross-compiled. :)
[19:10] <snappy_car> right :D
[19:12] <bobolopolis> Is Mir planned for ARM?
[19:12] <kyrofa> snappy_car, it's a QML app, so cross-platform
[19:12] <dobey> the plan is to switch the phone to snaps completely, so yes, the frameworks will have to be on ARM
[19:12] <kyrofa> nhaines, ^^
[19:12] <nhaines> bobolopolis: Mir's been running on ARM for 3 years and was released in a retail product in March.
[19:13] <nhaines> I'm looking forward to Mir and Unity 8 on RPi2. :D
[19:13] <bobolopolis> I thought Kyle just said it wasn't on ARM, maybe I misunderstood
[19:13] <dobey> snaps are still a little weird, because they don't have the distinction between all archs and multi-arch packages
[19:13] <dobey> bobolopolis: the mir snap framework isn't on ARM yet
[19:13] <dobey> which is what kyrofa was talking about
[19:14] <bobolopolis> Ah, okay
[19:15] <tedg> I think that, for example you want QML and Qt inside the snap.
[19:15] <dobey> right
[19:15] <dobey> i don't think so
[19:15] <dobey> we don't want every gnome app to have the entire gnome stack in each app's snap, for example
[19:15] <alecu> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BqJr8de5rr6s0NGm6BEsM3Yc8FCyLODGnCDFp_Y0Mxs/edit?ts=5633d6d8#
[19:15] <tedg> If you want to patch it, or choose a version, you need to do that at build time. Not install.
[19:16] <snappy_car> i don't want Qt inside the snap, ewww
[19:16] <dobey> having to include the full stack in every package is not reasonable
[19:16] <alecu> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xwHIt5FLjrNur59Kh7aMB4SNzPTpTyhy-tkPchTxT0k/edit?ts=5637c5ca#
[19:16] <snappy_car> it's also silly
[19:16] <lool> my understanding was that phone snaps would rely on the stack being available on the phone image; today we have a single Ubuntu Core OS image, but the phone image would have a different seed and would provide different base frameworks
[19:17] <dobey> right, we need a solution to the binary incompatibility issues of frameworks too
[19:17] <lool> it's not clear whether we'd actually rely on the OS snap to be identical between core and phone, and find a way to expose qt in the phone case, but clearly we can't duplicate the whole phone libs in each snap
[19:17] <tedg> So we think that on the phone devs shouldn't get to choose the versions of all their deps? ;-)
[19:18] <kyrofa> That first link ^^ will walk you through the demo I just gave
[19:18] <dobey> tedg: they can already do that if they want
[19:18] <tedg> i.e. you're just recreating the debian repository problem
[19:18] <tedg> Then developers can build their own PyPi for Snaps!
[19:19] <lool> tedg: they can still do so for other stacks, but the point is to integrate with the main phone stack; the difference in my eyes is that snappy Ubuntu Core is a blank sheet where you create the architecture of your platform on top of something thin
[19:19] <lool> while Ubuntu for Phone is an opinonated view of what a phone image should be
[19:19] <lool> with a standard set of permissions and frameworks and libraries and a SDK etc.
[19:19] <tedg> I think that opinionated view is implemented in the gadget snap of the image.
[19:19] <tedg> You still want it on the same core.
[19:19] <ogra_> lool, any why cant we create "architecture of your platform on top of something thin" on the phone too ?
[19:20] <lool> I'm not opposed to using a single OS image for core and phone images, it might be hard to achieve in the short term
[19:20] <tedg> For instance, on the phone you could do A/B partitions of the kernel/OS then. And not have to for all the rest of the frameworks that are larger.
[19:20] <cm-t> I followed the mycroft topic on mailling list, there were python3 and snappy package issue, including a package for the phone. I i remember the anwser was to use an uconfinned .click for the while. what would be the target in the long therme (for python3 apps)
[19:20] <ogra_> i would see the phone as ubuntu-core + ubuntu-phone-ui (framework)
[19:20] <lool> ogra_: we *can* but it's not desirable due to the stupid size and embedded bug copies it creates
[19:21] <lool> it's the same story as shipping an embedded interpreter for each snap
[19:21] <lool> it makes sense in snappy Ubuntu Core because it's meant to be thin and nude
[19:21] <tedg> We can make an SDK snapcraft plugin that handles it easily enough.
[19:21] <ogra_> why ? ubuntu-phone-ui provides the ubuntu framework
[19:21] <ogra_> it is essentially everything we have on the phone today minus ubuntu-core :)
[19:21] <lool> but a product like a QML phone image with an opinionated view on how all apps should look like, should behave, which services they might access etc. should commonize the commonalities :-)
[19:22] <tedg> lool: That's where concepts like intra-package deduplication comes into play. So it appears small on the disk, but each snap appears complete.
[19:22] <niemeyer__> Yes, ideally we'd use exactly the same OS snap, which by itself is also built as a subset from a standard Ubuntu image
[19:22] <asac-phone> lool: what about a third party that wants to build something like a phone?
[19:22] <lool> tedg: well, we don't have that I'm afraid
[19:22] <lool> tedg: also, it still prevents fixing in a single place bugs that are part of your runtime
[19:22] <niemeyer__> We can always fix it so that it remains a usable subset of both environments
[19:22] <tedg> lool: We shouldn't break the Snappy architecture because we don't have it.
[19:22] <asac-phone> our architecture should support building something like the phone ... otherwise its not clean yet
[19:22] <ogra_> +1
[19:23] <tedg> lool: Yes, single place is the problem. It's the Debian repo problem :-)
[19:23] <lool> we don't want to be in charge of the whole opensource world today, but rather express which subset is maintained on a per product/image basis
[19:23] <dobey> tedg: we shouldn't break phones, because snappy doesn't have what the phones currently do, either
[19:23] * ogra_ notes that asac-phone is very wasteful with irc nicks today
[19:23] <tedg> dobey: We're not shipping a Snappy phone today :-)
[19:23] <lool> tedg: well precisely, we get to decide, product by product / image by image, where we draw the line between supported and unsupported
[19:23] <lool> with a clear interface
[19:23] <dobey> tedg: exactly because snappy isn't ready for phones
[19:23] <tedg> dobey: Not saying it is, but it is a target :-)
[19:23] <lool> for instance: "here's your scope API, write this bit in this language and bundle it as a snap in the store"
[19:23] <dholbach> does anyone want to join the hangout?
[19:23] <lool> same for QML apps
[19:23] <dobey> *sigh*
[19:24] <tedg> lool: No, developers get to decide. We don't.
[19:24] <lool> tedg: well you describe something else
[19:24] <lool> tedg: it's a "create your own phone platform with random opensource components" version of snappy
[19:24] <lool> tedg: today, Ubuntu for phones is a toplevel product that we maintain with a vision of how the user experience should be like
[19:24] <asac-phone> lool:so you say "create your own platform" is out of scope for snappy core?
[19:25] <lool> tedg: what you describe would make sense if e.g. I wanted to allow taking a phone and turn it into a kiosk or a drone or whatever
[19:25] <tedg> No, not a platform. But what libraries your application uses are very different. If I get Digia to produce a Qt patch for me, I should be able to ship with it.
[19:25] <lool> asac-phone: it's not, but it's not the same goal
[19:25] <dobey> tedg: there's nothing preventing you from doing that
[19:25] <lool> for me, Ubuntu for phones is [ OS snap + phone frameworks + Ubuntu snaps + 3rd party snaps ]
[19:25] <dobey> tedg: but just because your special case is special, doesn't mean all users and developers should have to suffer for every app
[19:26] <lool> with a vision of what goes into OS snap / phone frameworks (I dont care how it's split)
[19:26] <tedg> There is a difference between recreating everything and including the in-memory dependencies of the app in the snap.
[19:26] <lool> but
[19:26] <lool> you can still create your [ Ubuntu Core snap + random frameworks + other snaps ] platform if you care
[19:26] <lool> it's a different exercize
[19:27] <lool> say, you could ship a Plasma phone with [ Ubuntu Core snap + Plasma framework(s) + Plasma apps + 3rd party snaps ]
[19:27] <lool> and that's a different border / split
[19:28] <ogra_> lool, that sounds like what i imagine too
[19:28] <lool> what's not good to deliver a good phone product is [ Ubuntu Core snap + random snaps embedding everything ]
[19:28] <tedg> Sure, but if you say that the libraries exist outside of the snap you can no longer talk about testing your snap being the same way it gets deployed either.
[19:28] <lool> even if you throw a random set of frameworks in there, the duplication and lack of clear SDK / user experience guidelines kills the product
[19:28] <tedg> We want to create the consistency with great snapcraft plugins, not with framework snaps that share files.
[19:28] <dobey> "we"
[19:28] <lool> you want to be able to say things like "apps are allowed to work in the background and access this always available services / middleware"
[19:28] <asac-phone> lool: sure :) ... making a platform is not done by just providig parts to incude in snaps :)
[19:29] <lool> this why I dont see the *value* in embedding the runtime in snaps each time when the point of your opionated platform is precisely to say what's common and always there
[19:29] <lool> it would have an unacceptable cost though
[19:29] <lool> hence why I think we should not embed Qt/QML in Ubuntu for phones
[19:30] <asac-phone> lool:ok didnt get that.. think we agree :)
[19:30] <lool> but you're welcome to do it in your "MyKiosk" use case, running Ubuntu Core + yourkiosk snap
[19:30] <asac-phone> lool:but do we have what it takes to do such opinionated platform on top of core?
[19:30] <lool> asac-phone: we have the opinonated view already: it's the current phone design
[19:30] <ogra_> we will need a single versioned dependency towards the framework
[19:31] <ogra_> to make sure your snaps actually find the right env
[19:31] <asac-phone> lool:you mean making a big personal OS snap?
[19:31] <asac-phone> or is thre a new design based on core?
[19:31] <ogra_> asac-phone, a framework on top of ubuntu-core
[19:31] <lool> for instance, we could say "when using ubuntu-for-phone-framework, your snap should rely on qmlviewer to launch"
[19:31] <ogra_> but yeah, i big snap
[19:31] <lool> e.g. we could ship #!/bin/env qmlviewver <QML contents goes here> global files
[19:32] <ogra_> s/i/a
[19:32] <lool> or, nicer, some kind of snap hook to pickup your QML files/Qt files and expose them in the launcher
[19:32] <lool> asac-phone: well there are multiple options on how we can approach the internal split
[19:32] <lool> is it one big snap with all phone middlewares
[19:33] <lool> or do we make each a framework
[19:33] <lool> lots of possibilities; not sure which is best personally
[19:33] <dobey> framework-15.04.snap
[19:33] <tedg> lool: There is no qmlscene anymore they changed that in a version of Qt. Perhaps we could abstract which version of Qt is being used?
[19:33] <lool> tedg: sure, this was just to illustrate the point
[19:33] <dholbach> any more specific questions you'd like to see discussed?
[19:33] <ogra_> while it would be much nicer to have many frameworks it will also lead to needing dependencies
[19:33] <tedg> ubuntuqmlplayer, we could add a debian-alternatives implementation
[19:33] <lool> tedg: perhaps it would ubuntu-for-phones-qml-launcher
[19:33] <asac-phone> so the problem i have with one big snap is that our current guidelines say that all frameworksneed to be coinstallable... so that big framework would probably include pulse etc. and others couldnt ship their own pulse
[19:34] <ogra_> asac-phone, on a phone, yes
[19:34] <lool> guys, I'm sorry the IRC conversation diverged from the hangouts; I feel I've not paid enough attention to the hangout
[19:34] <lool> sorry!
[19:34] <asac-phone> hehe
[19:34] <asac-phone> lool: guess sorry to the hangout crew :)
[19:34] <dholbach> anything in specific you'd like to see discussed?
[19:34] <dholbach> or an open question?
[19:34] <tedg> I think that everything in the base user session needs to be a big snap.
[19:34] <tedg> But that doesn't mean that apps need to share files with that.
[19:35] <mvo> so any questions for the people in the hangout?
[19:35] * jdstrand just arrived-- were there any questions for me?
[19:35] <tedg> jdstrand: Just action items, don't worry.
[19:35] <jdstrand> heh
[19:35] <lool> asac-phone: no strong opinion there; I'm not sure it's ok to have the requirements that all frameworks can be coinstalled
[19:35] <jdstrand> I good at deferring those
[19:35] <jdstrand> I'm*
[19:36] <tedg> Heh, managers.
[19:36] <lool> dholbach: I'm happy to join :-)
[19:36] <kyrofa> We'll hang here for any questions
[19:36] <jdstrand> lool: did the definition of frameworks change?
[19:36] <dholbach> lool, NOW... :)
[19:36] <lool> jdstrand: it did not
[19:36] <niemeyer__> Wrong button..
[19:36] <lool> dholbach: sorry :-)
[19:36] <niemeyer__> alecu: Thanks for mediating it
[19:36] <asac-phone> thanks!
[19:36] <kyrofa> Yeah thanks alecu!
[19:36] * asac-phone dinner
[19:37] <willcooke> thanks guys
[19:37] <lool> alecu: <3
[19:37] <alecu> thank you guys, and keep up the good work!
[19:44] <alecu> I'm catching up with the backlog, and I noticed this:
[19:44] <alecu> "16:19:15 <lool> while Ubuntu for Phone is an opinonated view of what a phone image should be"
[19:44] <alecu> that sounds exactly like what we'd like
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| 2015-11-03T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
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"Chipaca",
"TJ-",
"alecu",
"asac-phone",
"asac_online",
"bobolopolis",
"cm-t",
"dholbach",
"diwic",
"dobey",
"genii",
"jdstrand",
"kyrofa",
"lool",
"morphis",
"mvo",
"nhaines",
"niemeyer_",
"niemeyer__",
"ogra_",
"snappy_car",
"tedg",
"udsbotu",
"willcooke"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-uos-core"
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-africa
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[08:28] <elacheche> Mornign africa!
[08:28] <elacheche> Anyone here have a feedback about the difference between SuexecUserGroup & chroot jail apache?
[09:23] <craigzim> morning elacheche
[09:29] <elacheche> Hey craigzim :)
[13:01] <Kilos> hi craigzim elacheche and others
[13:01] <elacheche> Hey!
[13:02] <craigzim> hello
[13:02] <Kilos> elacheche any advance on the amp
[13:03] <Kilos> map
[13:03] <Kilos> not serious, just checking
[13:04] <elacheche> Kilos, nope, but It's on my mind this days :) I almost start stabilizing our community server for #opentunisia project, and now I can think about other things :)
[13:05] <Kilos> good man
[13:05] <Kilos> and dont eat refined salt
[13:05] <Kilos> sea salt unrefined
[13:05] <Kilos> no table salt
[13:06] <Kilos> all you guys have to live long and build this community
[13:07] <Kilos> just because the world is falling to pieces doesnt mean we have to as well
[13:20] <elacheche> :D
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Kilos",
"craigzim",
"elacheche"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/03/%23ubuntu-africa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
}
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-vn
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[05:22] <phutuyen> fsdf
[05:23] <phutuyen> hello
[05:26] <phutuyen> exit
[05:26] <stk> holle
[05:43] <CoconutCrab> lại đuổi khách huh
[06:09] <stk> uh huh
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ubuntu-chat
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| 2015-11-03T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CoconutCrab",
"phutuyen",
"stk"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/03/%23ubuntu-vn.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-vn"
}
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-uos-showandtell
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[15:00] <balloons> Aloha
[15:01] <dholbach> hey hey
[15:01] <elopio> hello
[15:02] <cwayne_> heyhey
[15:02] <Yonas> 123?
[15:02] <cwayne_> 456
[15:02] <elopio> who gives me the link to the hangout?
[15:05] <brendand> elopio, good luck
[15:05] <alecu> hello
[15:06] <elopio> hello
[15:06] <skay> o/
[15:06] <dholbach> elopio, is somebody helping you set up the session?
[15:07] <elopio> dholbach: fgimenez.
[15:07] <dholbach> ok cool
[15:08] <balloons> elopio, still having trouble?
[15:08] <balloons> we need to add the link so the video shows on the page
[15:08] <dholbach> davidcalle, ^ are you around to help them?
[15:08] <elopio> balloons: trouble with what? I don't have the link.
[15:08] <dholbach> click on "edit hangout details" on the session page in summit
[15:09] <balloons> elopio, I thought you said you were all set for this
[15:09] <elopio> ahhh, now I understand your question from before
[15:09] <elopio> sorry about that.
[15:09] <dholbach> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22623/testing-snappy/ → edit hangout details
[15:09] <balloons> elopio, no worries. Sorry. I was trying to ask if you knew about setting things up, not the information, heh
[15:09] <elopio> balloons: yeah, I misunderstood. I don't have a hangout details link.
[15:09] <balloons> elopio, ok, so simply create a new hangout on air
[15:10] <balloons> elopio, it's documented here Sessions
[15:10] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions
[15:10] <Yonas> 789?
[15:11] <balloons> elopio, but you make an on-air hangout, then we simply update the page with the details
[15:11] <elopio> balloons: on it
[15:12] <balloons> I'm sorry for not being clear earlier. It's too early to be vague about these things :-)
[15:12] <elopio> there's no on-air button.
[15:12] <elopio> give me a second
[15:13] <elopio> got it.
[15:14] <elopio> balloons: dholbach: http://youtu.be/tAAarof9u4E
[15:15] <dholbach> elopio, page updated
[15:15] <mvo_uos> yay, I have a video
[15:15] <ogra_> video !
[15:15] <ogra_> (well, starting soon ...)
[15:15] <mvo_uos> I can see elopio
[15:15] <balloons> elopio, all set, we see you
[15:15] <brendand> elopio, i see you
[15:15] <dholbach> elopio, thanks for hanging in there
[15:15] <tedg> elopio: We can hear you!
[15:15] <lool> elopio: can see you live
[15:15] <roadmr> +1, I can see/hear
[15:15] <Icey> I can see you live
[15:15] <cwayne_> yep
[15:15] <Icey> and hear you
[15:15] <lool> elopio: and hear you fine
[15:15] <mvo_uos> elopio:we hear you
[15:15] <brendand> elopio, and hearing :)
[15:16] <rmescandon> i can hear it, confirmed
[15:16] <skay> hearing okay
[15:16] <ogra_> yep,. all fine
[15:16] <dholbach> that means a delay of 1 minute or something :)
[15:16] <tedg> Well, we don't *know* it is live. He could have prerecorded the confusion.
[15:16] <ogra_> i hear you
[15:16] <tedg> :-)
[15:22] <elopio> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/
[15:22] <elopio> sudo ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --channel edge --developer-mode -o ubuntu-snappy-rolling-edge-amd64-generic.img
[15:23] <elopio> kvm -m 512 -redir :8090::80 -redir :8022::22 -redir :8000::8000 ~/Elŝutujo/installers/ubuntu/snappy/ubuntu-snappy-rolling-edge-amd64-generic-220.img -snapshot
[15:26] <sanoy> is this talk happening?
[15:26] <sanoy> or not?
[15:26] <ronswift> yes it is
[15:26] <ogra_> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22623/testing-snappy/
[15:27] <ogra_> it is running, yes
[15:29] <elopio> sudo snappy install hello-world
[15:29] <ronswift> will there be notes for this and the other presentations
[15:31] <balloons> ronswift, the pad is availible for notes, but we would have to ask elopio what he would recommend for documentation if that's what you are after
[15:31] <ogra_> ronswift, the video will be available afterwards and there is th eetherpad
[15:31] <ronswift> yes, documentation
[15:34] <elopio> sudo snappy hw-assign hello-world.canonical /dev/kmsg
[15:35] <elopio> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy
[15:35] <dholbach> I put Leo's messages from IRC to the etherpad
[15:35] <balloons> ok, so I'll just ask for you ronswift.
[15:36] <balloons> QUESTION: Where can I find documentation for snappy, and in particular, for testing snappy?
[15:37] <ronswift> QUESTION: What are the hardware requirements for testing snappy
[15:38] <fgimenez> balloons, for general info about snappy the guides is a great place to start https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/, we have a readme about how to run the automated integration tests in https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/_integration-tests/README.md
[15:38] <balloons> ronswift, &&
[15:39] <balloons> sorry, ignore that
[15:40] <ronswift> got it thanks
[15:41] <elopio> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/daemon/api_test.go
[15:41] <elopio> https://coveralls.io/builds/4011396/source?filename=daemon%2Fapi.go
[15:41] <fgimenez> ronswift, for running snappy locally as elopio is doing take a look at https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/#snappy-local; for running the tests localy you need autopkgtest, ubuntu-device-flash and kvm, more on https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/_integration-tests/README.md
[15:43] <elopio> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/_integration-tests/tests/info_test.go
[15:48] <elopio> go run ./_integration-tests/main.go --ip localhost --port 8022 --filter infoSuite
[15:48] <balloons> so fgimenez, what hardware can be used for testing? is most testing done via kvm?
[15:51] <fgimenez> balloons, we use kvm for executing the suite locally on the amd64 architecture, you can also execute the tests on armhf (beaglebone and rpi2) with the board connected, snappy installed and using the -ip and -port flags mentioned by Leo
[15:51] <elopio> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/_integration-tests/tests/info_test.go
[15:52] <fgimenez> balloons, in fact the tests can be executed in any hardware running snappy, just specifying the means of accessing it (ip, port and ssh keys)
[15:52] <elopio> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/_integration-tests/tests/snapd_test.go
[15:54] <elopio> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/_integration-tests/tests/update_test.go
[15:55] <sturmflut> Five minutes until mzanetti shows us the future of computing
[15:55] <mzanetti> at least tries to
[15:56] <mzanetti> here's a game, whenever something crashes, everyone drinks a schnapps
[15:56] <balloons> too early for such things in the states, hah
[15:57] <Icey> never!
[15:58] <balloons> thanks fgimenez and elopio!
[15:58] <roadmr> thanks elopio !
[15:59] <elopio> your welcome roadmr.
[15:59] <dobey> http://southpark.cc.com/clips/103752/a-refueled-confederacy
[15:59] <roadmr> ?!
[15:59] <dobey> balloons, mzanetti: ^^ :)
[15:59] <balloons> sorry again elopio. The questions are in the pad. fgimenez answered as we went
[15:59] <elopio> mzanetti: I'll play!
[15:59] <elopio> balloons: awesome. Thanks fgimenez.
[16:00] <fgimenez> elopio, np, thank you :)
[16:00] <dobey> s'mores schnapps
[16:00] <davidcalle> We'll start in 2 min!
[16:03] <unity9> hi all
[16:03] <AmarSingh> hi
[16:03] <davidcalle> Hi hi :) About to start
[16:03] <unity9> can't wait
[16:03] <sturmflut> unity9: Now that's a bold nickname
[16:04] * unity9 i'm from the future
[16:04] <mhall119> do they have flying cars there yet?
[16:04] <ubufan2k15> has this session started yet?
[16:05] <AmarSingh> no
[16:05] <ubufan2k15> okay versagod
[16:05] <unity9> no, not that distant in the future 2021
[16:05] <davidcalle> ubufan2k15, in one minute :)
[16:06] <davidcalle> If anyone feels like joining the hangout -> https://hangouts.google.com/call/7jcodlmyr7wpmoef3ishh7r4ria
[16:07] <unity9> are you guys showing new phones?
[16:08] <davidcalle> @all, please prepend you questions with QUESTION:
[16:09] <sturmflut> unity9: At least I am not ;)
[16:10] <unity9> maybe popey? he has a lot of unreleased phones
[16:12] <unity9> QUESTION: any plans on working towards an initial definition of Unity8 api?
[16:13] <unity9> something that other devs can build upon and not break with the next update
[16:14] <unity9> tiny tv
[16:15] <unity9> i can't see... :(
[16:15] <roadmr> davidcalle: don't forget to have mzanetti focus his presentation user
[16:15] <roadmr> davidcalle: otherwise all we see is the hangout where his audio is coming from (empty wall)
[16:15] <CheeseBrg> Are we supposed to see something?
[16:15] <roadmr> there you go
[16:15] <unity9> better now
[16:15] <unity9> thanks
[16:15] <CheeseBrg> thanks
[16:15] <davidcalle> :)
[16:15] <unity9> why is the top bar so big?
[16:16] <unity9> or is it? what's the resolution?
[16:17] <justCarakas> QUESTION I bought a slimport that also has usb port for my nexus 4 will I be able to use them while also using the HDMI post ?
[16:17] <justCarakas> port
[16:17] <unity9> why are the icons so big?
[16:18] <unity9> QUESTION: why is everything so big?
[16:18] <justCarakas> QUESTION are there plans to make the phone/tablet usable as a trackpad while extending the screen
[16:18] <CheeseBrg> QUESTION: How does it handle multuple screens? My setup has 3
[16:18] <anpok_> justCarakas: as far as I know you can only use the extra usb port to power the device while using the hdmi outpu..
[16:19] <justCarakas> anpok_: mine does have a micro usb port for power and a real usb port, an SD-cart reader as wel
[16:20] <anpok_> justCarakas: that sounds like an mhl adapter which is a different hdmi embedding protocol than slimport
[16:22] <mhall119> justCarakas: I believe the slimport's micro-usb port is only for power, not other devices
[16:23] <justCarakas> mhall119: ow snap :p
[16:23] <brendand> justCarakas, it will not do adb/mtp
[16:23] <mhall119> mzanetti: I belive he's asking about an API for extending Unity 8, like plugins
[16:27] <mhall119> QUESTION: is the side-stage going to be available in desktop mode?
[16:27] <unity9> QUESTION: any news regarding the tablet mode?
[16:27] <seb24> QUESTION: What is the plan for Scopes and dash for Dekstop
[16:28] <seb24> with Unity 8
[16:28] <mhall119> QUESTION: is the HUD coming back to Unity 8 for the desktop? I miss the HUD
[16:29] <AmarSingh> QUESTION: What sort of compiz-like functionality can we expect in Unity 8? Things like window spread, workspace naming and hotcorners for example are quite useful, but I understand that these things are not high priority at the moment. I just want to know if they will make an appearance eventually.
[16:32] <CheeseBrg> I feel like Mycroft + HUD = Siri like service for Unity8
[16:32] <mhall119> yeah, that would be awesome
[16:32] <unity9> QUESTION: how will the unity8 desktop work like? on unity7 we can put pictures and folders and etc
[16:33] <CheeseBrg> QUESTION: Is there a testing ISO specifically for Unity8 testing on Desktop? Or instructions for 15.10?
[16:33] <unity9> ok, thanks
[16:34] <AmarSingh> ah I thought that was the alt+tab switcher
[16:34] <unity9> QUESTION: can i write a paralax wallpaper in QML and replace the current static wallpaper?
[16:35] <mhall119> QUESTION: Who in the design team should we ping with all these design-related questions?
[16:35] <davidcalle> apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir
[16:35] <mterry> apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir
[16:35] <mterry> :)
[16:35] <CheeseBrg> I'll try that now
[16:36] <justCarakas> I tried apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir on ubuntu 15.10 but only saw a black screen
[16:36] <CheeseBrg> in a VM
[16:37] <mhall119> QUESTION: When will Unity 8 gain all the wonderful keyboard shortcuts that Unity 7 has?
[16:37] <unity9> QUESTION: when will the "desktop" widget land? like scrollbars, menus and such
[16:38] <unity9> radio buttons
[16:38] <CheeseBrg> The Ubuntu Design videos stopped a long time ago unfortunately
[16:39] <mhall119> mostly I want super+# for app switching :)
[16:41] <gustwwwww> Unity8 Convergence when will fist iso be made. 16.10 or later
[16:41] <seb24> QUESTION: With Unity 8 on phone the update/upgrade system is different. Do we will have the same update system on Desktop ?
[16:41] <mhall119> QUESTION: any new features coming in Unity 8 that didn't exist in Unity 7 which you are particularly excited about?
[16:42] <AmarSingh> I quite like the browser
[16:42] <mhall119> seb24: that's more of a desktop team question, they have a session tomorrow: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22576/developer-desktop-plan-1604/
[16:43] <unity9> woa... nice browser
[16:43] <mhall119> QUESTION: can we get the calendar widget in the datetime indicator when in phone mode? It's quite handy
[16:43] <sturmflut> unity9: The browser also works quite well on an "actual" desktop with Unity7
[16:43] <unity9> sturmflut: nice
[16:44] <unity9> +1
[16:44] * mhall119 is looking forward to the notifications indicator on the desktop
[16:45] <mhall119> much nicer than the current desktop one
[16:45] <CheeseBrg> QUESTION: Think you answered this but will Uniy8 support plugins?
[16:45] <seb24> QUESTION: What is the plan to manage muti-workspaces ?
[16:45] <AmarSingh> I think they answered it earlier
[16:45] <AmarSingh> the plugin thing
[16:45] <mterry> CheeseBrg, answer was not yet, we have too much stuff to get working in normal everyday mode right now
[16:46] <davidcalle> CheeseBrg, already answered, priority is on getting everything to work, then they are not opposed to it
[16:46] <CheeseBrg> That's what I thought
[16:47] <Kugi> QUESTION: Any chance we'll get to set the "resolution" or UI scaling when connecting to an external display? Everything seems big as of the moment :)
[16:47] <mhall119> davidcalle: can you switch the video to his desktop?
[16:47] <mhall119> Kugi: that was answered earlier, it's work in progress
[16:48] <Kugi> Oops, sorry, just joined. Thanks anyway :)
[16:48] <mhall119> QUESTION: how will multiple windows for an app work in that switcher? Is it window-based or app-based?
[16:48] <CheeseBrg> QUESTION: Is the choppy performance of Unity8 becuase of the hardware of the phone or becuse it is still work in progress?
[16:48] <unity9> QUESTION: when will unity8 be able to run with nvidia, amd's proprietary drivers
[16:49] <CheeseBrg> performance in the video I mean
[16:49] <mhall119> CheeseBrg: it's probably caused by Hangouts
[16:49] <CheeseBrg> Ok
[16:50] <sturmflut> I have to drop out of the Hangout, don't have all the fun in the last five minutes without me!
[16:50] <unity9> udsbotu:10
[16:50] <mterry> sturmflut, ok (everyone! bust out the party balloons!)
[16:50] <unity9> bye sturmflut
[16:50] <mhall119> example, if you have multiple browser windows open
[16:50] <sturmflut> mterry: Damned I knew it!
[16:50] <Kugi> QUESTION: Any news when we'll get multiple app instance support in Unity8? or is it even planned for phones/tablets?
[16:50] <unity9> i like balloons
[16:51] <balloons> careful now, careful
[16:51] * balloons floats out of reach
[16:51] <mterry> :)
[16:51] <unity9> lol
[16:51] <mhall119> looking forward to seeing that in action
[16:52] <bregma> re: vendor support for Mir: *soon*
[16:53] <unity9> bregma:nice
[16:53] <unity9> thansk all
[16:54] <CheeseBrg> bye guys
[16:54] <thecoder15> im 17 year old self taught software engineer and im wondering what its like to work at canonical
[16:54] <mhall119> thank you mterry and mzanetti for this session, and thank you davidcalle for sheparding the questions
[16:54] <AmarSingh> Thanks all
[16:54] <mhall119> thecoder15: it's the most fun stress you'll ever have :)
[16:55] <thecoder15> awesome can you suggest what to learn to get hired
[16:55] <mhall119> thecoder15: depends on your interest, python and go are very popular, and of course QML and C++ if you're interested in working on the phone/desktop UI
[16:56] <unity9> o/
[16:56] <mhall119> thecoder15: mostly just pick a project and start contributing to it as a community person, it's a great way for hiring managers to see what you can do and more importantly how well you work with the team
[16:56] <thecoder15> k im ok at all those languages except QML i will start messing around and working on some project
[16:56] <thecoder15> by
[16:56] <mhall119> lunch time!
[16:57] <mzanetti> that was a fun session in the end
[16:57] * genii cleans out the coffee machine
[16:57] <josharenson> o/
[16:57] <mzanetti> I thought I couldn't fill an hour with the stuff I prepared
[16:57] <mzanetti> thanks for all the questions
[16:57] <mhall119> mzanetti: thanks for the demos too
[16:57] <davidcalle> Ugh, sorry everyone, my laptop crashed
[16:58] <davidcalle> mzanetti, mterry, so, thank you for the great session guys!
[16:58] <mterry> \o/
[16:59] <davidcalle> Next session is Lunch time, a bit early in some areas, but sounds about right in any case :)
[17:00] <davidcalle> Enjoy the rest of your UOS!
[17:51] <dholbach> balloons, do you need help with the session or shall I set it up?
[17:51] * tedg waves
[17:52] <balloons> dholbach, go for it. I'
[17:52] <dholbach> oik
[18:01] <elopio> hola.
[18:05] <dholbach> please interrupt if you have any questions or anything
[18:06] <tedg> wiki.ubuntu.com/Snappy/Parts
[18:07] <mrmaxm> Hello there. Just saw video with PlayCanvas example, and get to here. Looking forward to see watch where it goes.
[18:08] <mrmaxm> I'm actually one of PlayCanvas core developers, so will be glad to chat and help about our engine and tools.
[18:08] <elopio> mrmaxm: welcome.
[18:09] <elopio> if you have questions, just shoot and Ted will reply.
[18:21] <kyrofa> QUESTION: If I install two ROS snaps (which both bundle ROS master) will each one automatically get a different port?
[18:24] <robobuilder> QUESTION: have you tested this with catkin build rather than catkin_make?
[18:24] <nullagent> any special issues with using launch files or changing those auto configured params like MASTER_URI?
[18:25] <sergiusens__> Ted show snapcraft help catkin
[18:25] <sergiusens__> and sources and plugins
[18:26] <sergiusens__> tedg
[18:26] <kyrofa> sergiusens__, where are you on there?
[18:26] <sergiusens__> I cannot speak. in bed
[18:26] <kyrofa> sergiusens__, ah poor guy, I'm sorry
[18:26] <sergiusens__> isolated was recommended by Dirk
[18:27] * dholbach hugs sergiusens__
[18:27] <dholbach> hope you'll feel better soon again
[18:27] <sergiusens__> thanks
[18:29] <kyrofa> tedg, when you have a massive project with a lot of moving pieces, launch files coordinates it all. The really just need to be in the ros path
[18:29] <nullagent> Oh the ROS master of the building host? Just confused because I saw an auto generated parameter in your wrapper
[18:31] <nullagent> Yep makes sense
[18:31] <sergiusens__> We can support that with snappy config
[18:31] <nullagent> Will have to play with the example some more
[18:31] <dholbach> if you have any more questions, just ask :)
[18:31] <sergiusens__> or in the future with capabilities iirc
[18:32] <nullagent> You mentioned support for ROS2, how far along is the planning there?
[18:32] <robobuilder> One of ROS's great features is its modularity, it seems like snaps with ROS limit this a bit. Is there a way to make that more flexible?
[18:32] <dholbach> robobuilder, any specific bit of flexibility you're looking for?
[18:33] <robobuilder> loading of many different nodes and being able to pick which ones to run.
[18:33] <kyrofa> robobuilder, it's really meant as a deploy. It'd be tough to develop with it
[18:33] <robobuilder> It seemed from the example that it would just run all of the nodes in the snap, which would have to include all of the nodes from the start
[18:34] <robobuilder> I guess that speaks to ktrofa's questions about launch files...
[18:34] <robobuilder> makes sense :)
[18:35] <kyrofa> robobuilder, right. The workflow I imagine is: develop your ROS system, with all the nodes and configurations on .deb-based. Once you come up with the final launch file for the system, deploy as snap and have snappy exec the launch file as the service
[18:35] <dholbach> or if you have specific examples you'd like to see discussed or need help with, the mailing list [email protected] would also be a good point
[18:35] <kyrofa> tedg, ^^ which is why launch files are needed
[18:35] <nullagent> :)
[18:38] <ogra_> you can definitely do some fancy things with snappy config and modify launch files on the fly here ...
[18:38] <kyrofa> ogra_, which would be great for tweaking the running system, yeah
[18:38] <ogra_> (a bit more effort, but then you could blindly ship all modules and use snappy config to fiddle with stuff)
[18:39] <ogra_> but thats a bit beyond snapcraft :)
[18:57] <mattyw> good evening folks, is anyone around or will I be talking to myself?
[19:13] <balloons> I've been lurking
[19:36] <anpok_> par
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[22:48] <ahoneybun> mhall119: where do I go about the installer? the screenshots for a few apps are super old
[22:48] <ahoneybun> rythmbox mostly
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[00:57] <axw> wallyworld: would you kindly create me a feature branch for azure?
[00:57] <wallyworld> sure
[00:59] <wallyworld> axw: done
[00:59] <axw> wallyworld: thanks
[01:28] <thumper> wallyworld: just once...
[01:28] <thumper> wallyworld: haha RWC 2015 to the All Blacks!!!
[01:28] * thumper is done now
[01:28] <wallyworld> sigh
[01:28] <wallyworld> i even hopped up at 2am to watch :-(
[01:28] <thumper> Got the family up early to watch it in a pub in Queenstown
[01:29] <thumper> getting the girls up a 4:30am was interesting
[01:29] <wallyworld> worth it though
[01:29] <thumper> yeah, pub was packed, even one guy with a wallabies jersey on
[01:29] <wallyworld> poor bastard
[01:29] <thumper> yeah, I thought he was pretty game
[01:29] <wallyworld> especially if we had won
[01:30] <thumper> heh
[01:30] <thumper> TBH though, I did think that the All Blacks were the better team on the day
[01:30] <anastasiamac> thumper: wasnt it yesterday? did u celebrate this whole time?
[01:30] <thumper> the frustrating times
[01:31] <thumper> are when you feel your team played better but gets pipped at the post
[01:31] <thumper> anastasiamac: it was Sunday morning
[01:31] <thumper> anastasiamac: but I was away for a wedding over the weekend, and was driving home yesterday
[01:32] <anastasiamac> thumper: i watched haka - that's as far as I go :D
[01:32] <anastasiamac> oh and richie mccaw
[01:32] <thumper> anastasiamac: :)
[01:50] <wallyworld> thumper: do you have an eta on removing mult env feature flag in master?
[01:51] <wallyworld> or shoudl i say, mrging in the feature branch?
[01:51] <thumper> wallyworld: wat?
[01:51] <thumper> feature branch was merged for 1.25
[01:51] <thumper> flag being removed for 1.26
[01:53] <wallyworld> thumper: yeah, sorry, what you said above is what i meant
[01:54] <wallyworld> eta for flag removal from master?
[01:54] <thumper> soon
[01:54] <thumper> perhaps this week
[01:54] <thumper> I'm actively working on it
[01:55] <wallyworld> yay, ok
[01:55] <wallyworld> i'll take advantage of that for cross mdel stuff
[01:56] * thumper nods
[01:56] * thumper is heading away from internet
[01:57] <thumper> I have to take Maia to jui jitsu, taking laptop and working from the gym while she does her thing
[01:57] <thumper> soon
[02:57] <natefinch> wallyworld: do you know what hotel we're staying at in oakland/
[03:04] <anastasiamac> natefinch: is it not Marriott Oakland City Center?
[03:04] <anastasiamac> cmars: ping?
[03:08] <natefinch> anastasiamac: I don't know. Did it say that somewhere?
[03:09] <anastasiamac> it's on the spreadsheet, hotel tab
[03:09] <natefinch> anastasiamac: arg... tabs in the spreadsheet. Honestly, who uses a spreadsheet to disseminate long-form information :/
[03:09] <anastasiamac> :D
[03:09] <anastasiamac> natefinch: i hear ur pain \o/
[03:10] <natefinch> anastasiamac: I must have looked at that spreadsheet three times and never saw the tabs :/
[03:10] <davechen1y> spreadsheets are for making lists of things, duh
[03:11] <davechen1y> word documents are for distributing screenshots
[03:11] <natefinch> *shudder*
[03:11] <anastasiamac> :P
[03:12] <natefinch> trying to figure out if I should just fly into SFO and take a cab, rather than trying to get to oakland airport, which takes 2 hours extra and an extra layover
[03:14] <natefinch> looks like it's 15 minutes from Oakland airport and 30 from SFO
[03:14] <anastasiamac> it depends - do u like flying?
[03:14] <anastasiamac> u r very lucky to have a choice :D
[03:16] <anastasiamac> i'd imagine flying to Oakland will also be a smaller plane than to SFO (m not gr8 fun of small planes)
[03:16] <wallyworld> natefinch: marriott
[03:16] <wallyworld> 1001 broadway
[03:18] <natefinch> wallyworld: thanks. realized I was being dumb and missed the hotels tab on the spreadsheet. Someday I'll remember that's there.
[03:19] <wallyworld> yeah, easy to do
[03:24] <cherylj> axw: ping?
[03:24] <axw> cherylj: pong
[03:25] <cherylj> hey axw :) I'm looking at bug 1512399 and it looks like the error they're getting is a TLS error
[03:25] <mup> Bug #1512399: ERROR environment destruction failed: destroying storage: listing volumes: Get https://x.x.x.x:8776/v2/<UUID>/volumes/detail: local error: record overflow <amulet> <openstack> <uosci> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512399>
[03:25] <cherylj> and I'm wondering if it's a config error? or if you've seen that in your testing?
[03:27] <axw> cherylj: I have not seen that. we have a separate API for Cinder, so it's most likely we're not configuring the client for it the same way we do the other clients
[03:28] <cherylj> axw: ok, thanks! I'll keep looking
[04:20] <davechen1y> running the juju/state tets
[04:21] <davechen1y> i can see mongo using 1/2 a core
[04:21] <davechen1y> that seems excessive
[04:21] <davechen1y> can anyone confirm ?
[04:22] <davechen1y> select(9, [7 8], NULL, NULL, {0, 10000}) = 0 (Timeout)
[04:22] <davechen1y> billions and billions of these
[04:23] <natefinch> davechen1y: yeah, usually 40-50% of a core for me most of the time, except when it jumps to the occasionaly 180%
[04:23] <mup> Bug #1512566 changed: Panic in deployerSuite unittests while attempting to connect to mongo <ci> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512566>
[04:25] <davechen1y> i wonder if mongo 3.0 will be better
[04:26] <natefinch> not sure if a faster car will make towing the giant boulder behind us much easier
[04:26] <mup> Bug #1512566 opened: Panic in deployerSuite unittests while attempting to connect to mongo <ci> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512566>
[04:27] <natefinch> ....or some other analogy saying our tests suck
[04:30] <davechen1y> any "database" that consumes 50% cpu with a single client
[04:30] <davechen1y> owns the market on suckage
[04:34] <davechen1y> oh fucking golf cla
[04:34] <davechen1y> now mongo used up all my /tmp
[04:34] <davechen1y> all 8gb
[04:41] <mup> Bug #1512566 opened: Panic in deployerSuite unittests while attempting to connect to mongo <ci> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512566>
[04:41] <mup> Bug #1512569 opened: UniterSuite.TestRebootNowKillsHook fails with: uniter still alive <ci> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512569>
[04:44] <mup> Bug #1512569 changed: UniterSuite.TestRebootNowKillsHook fails with: uniter still alive <ci> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512569>
[04:47] <mup> Bug #1512569 opened: UniterSuite.TestRebootNowKillsHook fails with: uniter still alive <ci> <test-failure> <unit-tests> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512569>
[09:07] <fwereade_> axw, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3045/ may be relevant to your interests
[09:08] <fwereade_> anyone else, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3032/ is a few days old and could use a review (and should be trivial)
[09:14] <voidspace> fwereade_: looking at the second
[09:14] <fwereade_> voidspace, ta
[09:15] <voidspace> waiting for an environment to bootstrap anyway
[09:18] <axw> fwereade_: my brain is a bit fried, will take a look tomorrow. skimming through it looks good. NewWorker in config bothers me, but will have to ruminate
[09:19] <fwereade_> axw, yeah, that's the main thing I'm ambivalent about
[09:19] <fwereade_> axw, I can't think of a good reason not to do it, though :-/
[09:19] <fwereade_> axw, (NewFacde less bothersome?)
[09:20] <fwereade_> axw, (I feel they're as bad as one another)
[09:20] <fwereade_> axw, anyway don't think about it now :)
[09:20] <axw> fwereade_: a little :) NewFacade bothers me less because you're configuring an external resource
[09:20] <axw> fwereade_: whereas the worker is an internal detail
[09:20] <axw> fwereade_: I guess neither would bother me if the manifold were in a different package
[09:21] <fwereade_> axw, yeah, I've been feeling some of them pulling that way as well
[09:21] <fwereade_> axw, and I don't think a given worker type will necessarily always want the same manifold
[09:22] <fwereade_> axw, but for now, it seems least wrong to put them with the workers
[09:22] <fwereade_> will think more on it
[09:29] <voidspace> fwereade_: LGTM bar one typo
[09:33] <fwereade_> voidspace, cheers
[10:22] <fwereade_> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3045/diff/#
[11:49] <voidspace> frobware: looks like I an upgrade from 1.22.8 to 1.24 tip with upload-tools
[11:49] <voidspace> which is good news
[11:49] <frobware> voidspace, yep
[12:19] <dimitern> my NUCs et al have just arrived!
[12:28] <perrito666> morning
[12:29] <perrito666> dimitern: I envy you a lot right now
[12:29] <dimitern> perrito666, :) don't - considering the amount of work we need to do in the next 3 weeks on those NUCs
[12:51] <rick_h__> go go gadget dimitern
[12:51] <dimitern> rick_h__, :) indeed
[12:51] <dimitern> rick_h__, nice ODS talk btw!
[12:51] <rick_h__> dimitern: thanks
[13:03] <jam> rick_h__: are you around for the meetup ?
[13:03] <dimitern> frobware, oh sorry, omw
[13:05] <rick_h__> jam: yes sorry
[13:09] <voidspace> dimitern: is the maas meeting on today?
[13:18] <dimitern> voidspace, yep
[13:30] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[13:58] <voidspace> frobware: I was wrong by the way - 1.22.8 to 1.24 tip fails. It just fails without error message.
[14:07] <cmars> why is master still blocked? is CI running on it yet?
[14:19] <mup> Bug #1512718 opened: Leader election fails with "leadership failure: leadership manager stopped" <landscape> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512718>
[14:20] <natefinch> ericsnow: did we update the version of reviewboard we're using? Seems like it handles file moves a lot better than it did just a week or so ago.
[14:38] <frobware> cherylj, ping - does your vMAAS setup have a static IP range set for the cluster controller / interface?
[14:45] <ericsnow> natefinch: nope :)
[14:48] <natefinch> ericsnow: weird, I swear the last time I looked at your renaming review, it was all screwed up because reviewboard just showed renames as deletes and adds, but now it looks fine. Maybe I'm just crazy.
[14:49] <perrito666> natefinch: rb is a sentient being and tries to make you doubt your sanity
[14:49] <natefinch> perrito666: I can believe it
[14:49] <perrito666> off course you can, it is true
[15:07] <cherylj> frobware: I have it set up to use a particular virtual network I created
[15:07] <perrito666> does anyone know exactly what is responsible for ~ expansion? I am trying to do an exec.Command with ~ on a path and it is not being expanded
[15:08] <voidspace> perrito666: it's the shell that does it not the os
[15:09] <perrito666> voidspace: mm, I presume that for this to work the process I should be running with exec.Command its bash
[15:09] <voidspace> perrito666: that would work, but beware of windows
[15:09] <voidspace> perrito666: or you can do the expansion yourself
[15:10] <perrito666> I could totally wear a shirt with that "beware of windows"
[15:10] <perrito666> voidspace: true
[15:10] <voidspace> :-)
[15:18] <rogpeppe> trivial change to environs/config, so that I don't need to do an error string comparison... anyone want an easy review? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3047/
[15:39] <cmars> why is master still blocked? is CI running on it yet?
[15:40] <cmars> sinzui, mgz_ ^^
[15:41] <sinzui> cmars: ci hasn't tested a pass yet. I believe master will be retested in a few hours.
[15:41] <cmars> sinzui, ok, thanks
[15:52] <frobware> cherylj, do you have time for a quick HO?
[15:52] <cherylj> frobware: I have 8 minutes :) is that enough time?
[15:52] <frobware> yep
[15:53] <frobware> cherylj, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/juju-sapphire
[15:53] <cherylj> I'm there
[16:43] <mup> Bug #1512782 opened: wget cert issues causing failure to create containers <cloud-installer> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512782>
[16:46] <mup> Bug #1512782 changed: wget cert issues causing failure to create containers <cloud-installer> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512782>
[17:01] <mup> Bug #1512782 opened: wget cert issues causing failure to create containers <cloud-installer> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512782>
[17:15] <rogpeppe> mgz_: any chance we might get a CI run on master today?
[17:16] <mgz_> rogpeppe: it'll happen shortly
[17:16] <rogpeppe> mgz_: cool
[17:16] <natefinch> and then the stampede to get stuff landed before it breaks again
[17:17] <rogpeppe> mgz_: istm that 24 hours to unblock after critical bugfix gets landed is probably too long
[17:17] <natefinch> ^ +1
[17:18] <rogpeppe> for our feature branch it was more like 7 days.
[17:19] <natefinch> mgz_: is it a resources problem? i.e. do we not have an environment dedicated to running CI on master?
[17:19] <mgz_> natefinch: every ci run is against a bunch of environments
[17:20] <natefinch> mgz_: sorry, overloaded term. Do we not have dedicated hardware for CI runs on master?
[17:20] <natefinch> mgz_: maybe a better way to phrase it is - it sounds like CI on master can be blocked by other CI runs. Is there a way we can make that not so?
[17:20] <mgz_> well, we're still talking about a whole bunch of machines in different cloud provuders
[17:21] <mgz_> so, two things
[17:21] <mgz_> we're getting new hardware for maas Soon hopefully, which is a major bottleneck
[17:21] <natefinch> good
[17:22] <mgz_> also abentley has been getting parallel streams working over the past few weeks, which means we can run more than one revision in across clouds
[17:25] <mgz_> anyway, the reson this was slow is that the rev was tested and failed (for unrelated env issues, machine ran out of root disk),
[17:26] <mgz_> so needed someone to wake up and get it run again, any aussie could have done that
[17:26] <natefinch> obviously we need to hire an aussie for the QA team
[17:36] <katco> mgz_: hey you all had started writing ci tests for the rackspace provider, correct?
[17:36] <mgz_> katco: there's not really tests to write
[17:37] <mgz_> we just need rackspace creds we can use, and then we can use the existing provider tests
[17:37] <katco> mgz_: ah great! is anything blocking you on getting those creds?
[17:37] <mgz_> well, I have a non-functional personal account,
[17:38] <mgz_> ideally we'd have a system of getting creds as a company, but that's never really happened in the past
[17:38] <katco> mgz_: i'll ping alexisb to see what we need to do
[17:43] <katco> mgz_: i also need to bug someone about what it would take to get CI testing the LXD provider
[19:25] <mup> Bug # changed: 1302118, 1392814, 1464304, 1485784
[19:25] <mup> Bug #1512847 opened: Unit suffix incremented after fresh post-destroy-service deploy <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512847>
[19:33] <thumper> haha
[19:33] <thumper> bug 1512847 now complaining about our "correct" behaviour
[19:33] <mup> Bug #1512847: Unit suffix incremented after fresh post-destroy-service deploy <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512847>
[19:34] * thumper wonders what the original bug number was that outlined the behaviour....
[19:38] <mup> Bug #1512847 changed: Unit suffix incremented after fresh post-destroy-service deploy <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512847>
[19:38] <mup> Bug # opened: 1302118, 1392814, 1464304, 1485784
[19:44] <mup> Bug # changed: 1302118, 1357045, 1392814, 1464304, 1485784, 1494476, 1498982, 1500703, 1500721, 1500769, 1500803, 1501173, 1501559, 1501637, 1501642, 1501710, 1505648
[19:44] <mup> Bug #1512847 opened: Unit suffix incremented after fresh post-destroy-service deploy <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512847>
[19:53] <mup> Bug # opened: 1357045, 1494476, 1498982, 1500703, 1500721, 1500769, 1500803, 1501173, 1501559, 1501637, 1501642, 1501710, 1505648
[19:56] <mup> Bug # changed: 1357045, 1494476, 1498982, 1500703, 1500721, 1500769, 1500803, 1501173, 1501559, 1501637, 1501642, 1501710, 1505648
[20:24] <thumper> sinzui: master is still blocked?
[20:24] <thumper> it is the same bug as yesterday...
[20:25] <sinzui> yes, thumper master is being retested now
[20:25] <thumper> why has it taken over 24 hours? just curious
[20:38] <davecheney> thumper: https://github.com/golang/go/issues/13137
[20:38] <davecheney> upstream issue for the ssh blocker that prevents me moving the ssh code to juju/utils
[20:39] <davecheney> thumper: i also tried adding dependencies.tsv to juju/utils to pin the ssh version
[20:39] <davecheney> by our build bot doesn't understand that
[20:40] <natefinch> thumper: I asked the same question earlier, sounds like the build machine ran out of disk space, so needed manual intervention
[21:01] <thumper> ah
[21:12] * natefinch needs to write a bot that'll watch master's CI status and auto-$$merge$$ his PR when master unblocks.
[21:17] <mup> Bug #1512875 opened: juju 1.25.0 using MAAS 1.9-beta2 juju incorrectly reports the private address <addressability> <maas-provider> <networking> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512875>
[21:26] <mup> Bug #1512875 changed: juju 1.25.0 using MAAS 1.9-beta2 juju incorrectly reports the private address <addressability> <maas-provider> <networking> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512875>
[21:28] <sinzui> wallyworld: can you review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3050/
[21:28] <wallyworld> sure
[21:29] <wallyworld> another difficult one
[21:29] <mup> Bug #1512875 opened: juju 1.25.0 using MAAS 1.9-beta2 juju incorrectly reports the private address <addressability> <maas-provider> <networking> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512875>
[21:32] <mup> Bug #1512847 changed: Unit suffix incremented after fresh post-destroy-service deploy <juju-core:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512847>
[21:56] <mup> Bug #1367962 changed: HTML entities accidentally escaped <docs> <juju-core:Fix Released by cjohnston> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1367962>
[22:26] <mup> Bug # changed: 1439375, 1456851, 1476918, 1486254, 1492095, 1497241, 1500283, 1502202, 1506353, 1509097, 1509292
[22:29] <mup> Bug # opened: 1439375, 1456851, 1476918, 1486254, 1492095, 1497241, 1500283, 1502202, 1506353, 1509097, 1509292
[22:38] <mup> Bug # changed: 1439375, 1456851, 1476918, 1486254, 1492095, 1497241, 1500283, 1502202, 1506353, 1509097, 1509292
[22:39] <anastasiamac> cmars: ping :D
[23:14] <mup> Bug #1511717 changed: Incompatible cookie format change <blocker> <ci> <compatibility> <regression> <juju-core:Fix Released by cmars> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by cmars> <juju-core 1.26:Fix Committed by cmars> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511717>
[23:17] <mup> Bug #1511717 opened: Incompatible cookie format change <blocker> <ci> <compatibility> <regression> <juju-core:Fix Released by cmars> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by cmars> <juju-core 1.26:Fix Committed by cmars> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511717>
[23:23] <mup> Bug #1511717 changed: Incompatible cookie format change <blocker> <ci> <compatibility> <regression> <juju-core:Fix Released by cmars> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by cmars> <juju-core 1.26:Fix Committed by cmars> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511717>
[23:25] <perrito666> anastasiamac: send me the song name
[23:26] <davecheney> thumper: upstream told us to go stuffed on the ssh problem
[23:26] <davecheney> thumper: where did the go 1.5 discussion go after we talked yesterday ?
[23:27] <anastasiamac> perrito666: tyvm for reminder :D i will as soon as my DJ gets back to me
[23:30] <thumper> davecheney: sorry, dropped the ball on that email, will do it now
[23:34] <davecheney> thumper: thanks
[23:34] <davecheney> what's going on with the build
[23:34] <davecheney> is it unblocked uet ?
[23:34] <davecheney> oh goody it is
[23:34] <thumper> waigani: I've just created a feature branch "controller-rename"
[23:34] <thumper> which I'll retarget my landings against
[23:34] <waigani> thumper: that's a good idea
[23:35] <thumper> I have a feeling we may break some CI tests :)
[23:35] <thumper> so best to get it in a feature branch IMO
[23:35] <thumper> especially taking off the feature flag
[23:35] <waigani> that will help me land this destroy*System* work too
[23:35] <waigani> as I can just finish off the logic and then merge in the controller stuff
[23:36] <thumper> waigani: also means we can do final checks to make sure we catch all the system names
[23:36] <waigani> right
[23:36] <thumper> waigani: probably best to see if we can get your stuff landed first
[23:36] * thumper hopes
[23:36] <waigani> okay
[23:36] <waigani> on it :)
[23:37] <davecheney> sinzui: ping
[23:37] <davecheney> sinzui: i have a problem trying to land https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/167
[23:37] <mgz_> davecheney: did you read my comment?
[23:37] <davecheney> the build bot doesn't seem to respect dependencies.txt
[23:38] <davecheney> mgz_: thanks for replying
[23:38] <davecheney> i added a dependencies.tsv to pin the crypto repo to a specific revision
[23:38] <davecheney> but the bot doesn't appear to use it
[23:38] <mgz_> davecheney: you need to add *all* the dependencies
[23:38] <davecheney> ok
[23:38] <davecheney> but how does the bot know ?
[23:38] <mgz_> I can make the bot get the deps with godeps
[23:38] <davecheney> i can add all the deps to that PR
[23:39] <davecheney> can you switch the bot to using godeps please ?
[23:39] <mgz_> but it's either go get *or* godeps, we can't mix and match
[23:39] <davecheney> understood
[23:39] <davecheney> i'll ammend the PR to have a complete set of dependencies
[23:39] <mgz_> so, I can switch the bot, and the branch will still fail for now
[23:39] <mgz_> k
[23:39] <davecheney> give me a few mins
[23:39] <davecheney> won't take long
[23:40] <mgz_> this is baiscally, in the config of the github-merge-juju-utils job (access is in the consoles.txt file in cloud-city),
[23:41] <mgz_> s/--go-get-all/--tsv-path $PROJECT_PATH/dependencies.tsv/
[23:42] <davecheney> mkay
[23:42] <mgz_> anyway, retry when ready
[23:43] <davecheney> mgz_: thanks, i'll be able to fix this on my own if I find deps I haven't pinned
[23:52] <cmars> master be all like: https://i.giphy.com/11Ss9q3F4zf5VC.gif
[23:52] <cmars> anastasiamac, pong
[23:53] <anastasiamac> cmars: send u an email but if u want to HO, can do too :D
[23:54] <cmars> anastasiamac, right, blueprint. i'll try to update it soon
[23:54] <anastasiamac> cmars: \o/
[23:56] <anastasiamac> cmars: love the pic btw :D indeed feels like when it unblocks :P
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-uos-convergence
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[15:56] * willcooke will update the HO details for people who want to be in the video shortly....#
[16:00] <willcooke> ok, hangout details updates
[16:00] <willcooke> *updated
[16:00] <willcooke> for those of you who want to be in the video....
[16:00] <willcooke> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdE9YG3Rc3RGqTfM8mf5-cDCc8-4MuDU6OpPFZTwdDabk4RxQ?hl=en-GB&authuser=0
[16:02] <elopio> Hello.
[16:04] <willcooke> just getting everything set up....
[16:05] <balloons> starting in 3, 2, 1 . . .
[16:09] <Laney> hi
[16:09] <Laney> what?!?!?!
[16:10] <balloons> we've assigned everything to you, no worries Laney
[16:10] <qengho> Don't we have some real-phone testing? I remember something from ara ~2 weeks ago.
[16:10] <Laney> I just heard something about the HWE stuff
[16:11] <Laney> but didn't catch what was being said
[16:15] <ianorlin> there are also manual tests for servers I don't see run that often on the dailies
[16:17] <willcooke> Laney, you were wondering if we could use the HW Cert tests to gate 16.04
[16:17] <Laney> oh right
[16:17] <Laney> we have this pending -> current thing
[16:17] <Laney> I wonder why you wouldn't hook as much as possible into that
[16:18] <dupingping> about HW cert, 12.04 is wider than 14.04
[16:18] <dupingping> 14.04 will be wider than 16.04?
[16:19] <willcooke> Laney, right - I don't know what sort of "status" we can get from the HW Cert boxes and if that can be tied in to LP automatically
[16:19] <willcooke> but yes, we should
[16:20] * Laney nods
[16:27] <Laney> omg
[16:27] <Laney> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/wily/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/wily-desktop-amd64-smoke-default/
[16:27] <Laney> that
[16:27] <Laney> probably lagging behind you
[16:27] <Laney> sorry
[16:28] <Laney> I would make it not spit out an email...
[16:29] <Laney> or, additionally some json file or whatever
[16:29] <Laney> it would need to be triggerable on new images
[16:29] <davmor2> welcome brendand
[16:30] <Laney> let me grab my headphones and come on
[16:30] <willcooke> Laney, thx
[16:30] <Laney> the strange men have left now
[16:52] <wililupy> Thank you.
[16:52] <elopio> bye
[16:52] <balloons> thanks all :-)
[16:53] <brendand> Laney, this is a good source of info - https://launchpad.net/checkbox-satellite
[16:53] <brendand> Laney, it's got all the logic used by the certification team for installs
[16:54] <Laney> ty
[16:54] <Laney> I got SSOed :P
[16:55] <dupingping> have done meeting? Please look http://people.ubuntu.com/~dupingping86/ and http://people.ubuntu.com/~dupingping86/trusty.html for HW Cert.
[16:55] <brendand> SSO = Suddenly Signed Out
[18:55] <Rick_Timmis> Hola Chico's
[18:56] <sgclark2> hiyas
[18:56] <Rick_Timmis> Hey sgclark2
[18:58] <mhall119> hi Rick_Timmis, sgclark2
[18:58] * Rick_Timmis Waves and Grins
[18:58] <sgclark2> hello
[18:58] <mhall119> who's hosting the hangout?
[18:59] <sgclark2> yofel
[18:59] <wxl> hey folks
[18:59] <Rick_Timmis> o/
[18:59] <mhall119> cool, yofel do you know how to put the video and hangout links into summit?
[18:59] <sgclark2> Between allergies and lack of sleep I am not fit for human consumption
[19:00] <mhall119> ugh, allergens are hitting our place hard all of a sudden too
[19:00] <Rick_Timmis> sgclark2: {{{{HUGS}}}}}}
[19:00] <yofel> mhall119: no
[19:00] <mhall119> yofel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions tells how, or you can just PM them to me and I'll update it
[19:00] <mhall119> or post them here, I guess there's no need to PM
[19:01] <wxl> someone ping me when we're up :)
[19:01] <yofel> ok, give me a sec
[19:01] <sgclark2> hiyas wxl
[19:02] <wxl> hai sgclark2 :)
[19:02] <marco-parillo> Is there a video or IRC only?
[19:02] <Ridgewing> dunno ping mhall119
[19:03] <mhall119> yofel is getting it setup, give him a few minutes
[19:03] <Ridgewing> Should be an open video ..
[19:03] <Ridgewing> can anyone join ?
[19:03] <alleeUOS2> hi
[19:04] <sgclark2> hello
[19:04] <mhall119> yofel: ping me if you need help or if you need me to host the hangout
[19:05] <yofel> mhall119: can you please do it?
[19:05] <mhall119> yup, give me a couple minutes to set up
[19:05] <yofel> I got as far as youtube telling me to verify my account *-.-
[19:06] <clivejo2> probably doesn't believe your age :P
[19:06] <mhall119> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe8_qHwGDAJy7i0Ns3nPmxiHaCK6Tm5h2Cr6FWb9IjJXSDHEw?hl=en&authuser=0 is the hangout for anybody who wants to be on air
[19:06] <Rick_Timmis> I've had that happen to me too right on cue for a show
[19:07] <mhall119> can you guys join the hangout?
[19:08] <MarcoAParillo> Not in FF. Will try google-chrome.
[19:08] <wxl> does hangouts not work in ff?
[19:08] <wxl> darn freedom haters
[19:09] * wxl kids, as he uses google-chrome exclusively :)
[19:09] <wxl> ah something's moving
[19:09] <mhall119> wxl: it's hit or miss with firefox, I always use Chrome for hangouts these days
[19:09] <sgclark2> link again
[19:09] <Ridgewing> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe8_qHwGDAJy7i0Ns3nPmxiHaCK6Tm5h2Cr6FWb9IjJXSDHEw?hl=en&authuser=0
[19:09] <sgclark2> please
[19:09] <wxl> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent/chaqbkhl79mnqv56rh9la8teicg&ytl=fgMjIXTdzbQ&wpsrc=yta
[19:10] <wxl> i think
[19:10] <wxl> you should just be able to go to the video and click the link
[19:10] <marco-parillo> Now I see the video in google-chrome.
[19:10] <kde_fan_2k2015> © Canonical Ltd., Ubuntu Community
[19:10] <wxl> whoa
[19:10] <mhall119> kde_fan_2k2015: ?
[19:11] <wxl> Kiera is like in a tunnel covered in fog.
[19:11] <kde_fan_2k2015> mistake
[19:11] <kde_fan_2k2015> i paste wrong window
[19:11] <Ridgewing> wxl, yeah, I can't do the video, I don't have the bandwidth.
[19:13] <Ridgewing> Wow .. this realy is an old audio video.
[19:13] <Ridgewing> **sans old for odd.
[19:16] <frecel> what kind of a load are we talking about?
[19:18] <mhall119> it would be cool if you could use Juju to spin up a bunch of servers, run the workload, and tear it down as soon as it's done
[19:18] <yofel> indeed
[19:18] <mhall119> maybe jcastro can help with that
[19:18] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Will Plasma 5 be in Kubuntu 16.04 as standard ?
[19:19] <marco-parillo> It already is.
[19:19] <clivejo2> can santa help out on that?
[19:19] <marco-parillo> The question is 5.x (coordinating with upstream).
[19:20] <Ridgewing> marco-parillo: Is Plasma 6 being worked on ? what is the address ?
[19:21] <mhall119> jcastro or marcoceppi
[19:23] <marco-parillo> I have heard nothing about Plasma 6. I think the Plasma team is working now on Plasma 5.5 due Tue 2015-12-08 (https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5)
[19:23] <Ridgewing> ok cheers.
[19:24] <clivejo2> had Jonathan not a mobile kci setup on scaleway?
[19:24] <clivejo2> for arm?
[19:25] <mhall119> is there still someone with upload rights in Kubuntu?
[19:25] <mhall119> archive uploads that is
[19:25] <Ridgewing> I'm happy to join the Kubuntu team BTW.
[19:25] <sgclark2> yofel and I do , but not all
[19:25] <alleeUOS2> how does one join the hangout? I can only watch it :-(
[19:25] <Ridgewing> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent/chaqbkhl79mnqv56rh9la8teicg&ytl=fgMjIXTdzbQ&wpsrc=yta
[19:28] <alleeUOS2> Ridgewing: thx that's what I'm using. You see me in the but it seems I can't participate
[19:30] <clivejo2> need people
[19:30] <clivejo2> packaging etc
[19:30] <mhall119> if you want help recruiting new contributors, both the community team and community council would be more than happy to help
[19:31] <clivejo2> but also documentation on how people can help, if and when they got time
[19:31] <wxl> i'd be happy to round up some testers if needed. just let me know.
[19:31] <wxl> i can also probably get some docs people and perhaps some bug triagers
[19:32] <wxl> potentially i can help with server maintenance
[19:35] <frecel> I think having clear instructions on how to help, where the help is needed would be good
[19:35] <TJ-> Documenting the developer processes would help - in detail - so newcomers can figure it out and get up to sepeed (which source repos, where/what/how to upload, patch rules, which servers/access to, how to interact with CI, etc.)
[19:35] <frecel> I think there are people out there who would be willing to help but they don't know where to start
[19:36] <frecel> there should be a big "Get involved" button on kubuntu.org
[19:36] <TJ-> True; even shadowing IRC for months doesn't help, and much of the knolwedge is word-of-mouth fragments hard to work out what is authorative
[19:36] <clivejo2> for me personally I think the KCC needs to be more involved, provide leadership in a way
[19:36] <wxl> QUESTION: is the only issue that of having developers?
[19:40] <clivejo2> I cant hear mhall
[19:41] <wxl> mhall119 has been infected by dpm
[19:43] <mhall119> microphone works a lot better when it's not on the top of my head :)
[19:43] <marco-parillo> wxl: I believe if we have developers / packagers creating new and shiny, that will attract folks who want to test and publicize the new and shiny. Also having critical mass to look at bugs would encourge folks to write bugs. When you hear a random complaint, and ask what is the bug number, you frequently get 'I tried a couple of times, and I got WONTFIX or no response at all.'
[19:45] <ovidiu-florin> How do I join the hangout?
[19:45] <ovidiu-florin> or I don't?
[19:45] <shadeslayer> sgclark2: ^
[19:45] <shadeslayer> Or maybe mhall119 ^
[19:46] <TJ-> there's rarely a point in Kubuntu bugs since the direction is usually to report upstream.
[19:46] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: shadeslayer: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe8_qHwGDAJy7i0Ns3nPmxiHaCK6Tm5h2Cr6FWb9IjJXSDHEw?hl=en&authuser=0
[19:46] <shadeslayer> mhall119: I'm too exhausted to join, listening passively
[19:47] <shadeslayer> I've had a full day
[19:47] <mhall119> np
[19:47] <Ridgewing> k
[19:49] <shadeslayer> one more image to test xD
[19:49] <ovidiu-florin> mhall119: thank you
[19:49] <wxl> marco-parillo: i know a few folks interested in packaging. maybe a little hangout to walk people through the process would help
[19:49] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: np
[19:49] <shadeslayer> I doubt its feasible with the low man power
[19:50] <mhall119> can the translations packages not just be included in the current ISOs?
[19:50] <sgclark2> we are short on packagers, not really testers
[19:50] <shadeslayer> mhall119: size limits iirc
[19:50] <ovidiu-florin> what's about the django CMS?
[19:50] <ovidiu-florin> what's that about?
[19:50] <mhall119> shadeslayer: is it using a full DVD already?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> Which are artificial at best at the moment
[19:51] <shadeslayer> mhall119: no I think the idea was to keep the size as low as possible
[19:51] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: I was offering ot talk about what django cms has to offer as a possible wiki alternative
[19:51] <sgclark2> ovidiu-florin: for a wiki, folks feel moving to kde fractured us
[19:51] <shadeslayer> mhall119: it's completely self imposed afaik
[19:52] <ahoneybun> sup
[19:52] <yofel> hey
[19:52] <sgclark2> hi
[19:52] <Ridgewing> hiya !
[19:53] * mhall119 isn't going to recommend moinmoin for anything, ever :)
[19:53] <wxl> amen mhall119
[19:53] <wxl> moinmoin suckxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[19:54] <shadeslayer> I haven't used it in 2 years now \o/
[19:54] <mhall119> lucky
[19:54] <wxl> hahahh
[19:54] <sgclark2> yikes
[19:56] <mhall119> getting people contributing to docs using the bzr/launchpad workflow is a good way to transition them into contributing code using the same :)
[19:57] <sgclark2> lol
[19:58] <clivejo2> 3rd that
[19:58] <yofel> lets make that the git/launchpad workflow ;)
[19:58] <mhall119> for reference, http://opensource.com/business/15/6/why-ubuntu-developer-portal-moved-djangocms contains a lot of our reasons for using django CMS over alternatives like rst
[19:59] <mhall119> notes: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-kubuntu-xenial-planning
[20:03] <clivejo2> was the printer auto detection ever looked at?
[20:04] <shadeslayer> OK I'm done, cya later
[20:05] <yofel> cya
[20:06] <mhall119> if you want to use ubuntuonair.com for public hangouts, we can do that
[20:09] <clivejo2> is there any way the Kubuntu CC can be more active and have a more leadership role?
[20:10] <sgclark2> +1
[20:10] <sgclark2> ^
[20:11] <clivejo2> the community needs a strong leadership to rally behind
[20:11] <mhall119> vote for sgclark2 when the CC voting starts :)
[20:12] * ahoneybun thinks sgclark2 will hurt mhall119
[20:12] <sgclark2> !!
[20:12] <ahoneybun> XD
[20:13] <yofel> XD
[20:13] <sgclark2> http://www.scarlettgatelyclark.com
[20:13] <clivejo2> for example there has been loads of media attention on Jon standing down, but nothing about the new release manager
[20:14] <sgclark2> that is because we are not entirely clear on the process clivejo2
[20:15] <kde_fan_2k2015> hmm
[20:16] <clivejo2> where is the link?
[20:17] <yofel> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HnooSpzP9p9cvql8GEQe7J-A1rNLq8qpRs_cH_gaZIk/edit#gid=0
[20:17] <clivejo2> thanks yofel
[20:21] <clivejo2> ovidiu-florin: totally agree
[20:21] <clivejo2> video drivers, getting printers to work
[20:21] <clivejo2> plasma crashing or slow for some reason
[20:22] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: FYI: there's a thing called checkinstall in the archive, that tries to make a .deb out of "make install" so you can try to install such custom software in a more-or-less sane way
[20:23] <frecel> I think users need to be more aware of the fact that there are people actually actively working on fixing bugs, and that their report is not just going into /dev/null
[20:25] <kde_fan_2k2015> how long is this session for?
[20:25] <mhall119> kde_fan_2k2015: it was supposed to end 30 minutes ago :)
[20:27] <mhall119> sounds like it's time to revive 5-a-day
[20:27] <sgclark2> +1
[20:27] * yofel is still in that team :D
[20:27] <kde_fan_2k2015> mhall119: i say i eat at 8 so my family cook food and now it keep going and going and i hungry LOL
[20:27] <yofel> those were fun times
[20:28] <mhall119> kde_fan_2k2015: it's being recorded, so you can watch later
[20:32] <ahoneybun> mhall119: remember the laptop I had at SELF?
[20:33] <ahoneybun> we were doing some scripts
[20:33] <mhall119> the one you were trying to get Unity 8 running on?
[20:33] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:34] <ahoneybun> in 15.10 the stylus works out of the box
[20:34] <ahoneybun> in 15.04 I had to use a fix from a launchpad page
[20:35] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/contribute.html
[20:35] <ahoneybun> http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/support.html
[20:36] <yofel> oh ok, yes, that's missing the direct link to the webchat
[20:37] <ahoneybun> missing?
[20:37] <clivejo2> who is kiera? IRC handle?
[20:37] <ahoneybun> http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/support.html yofel this has it
[20:37] <yofel> you're assuming that people understand what channel to connect to
[20:37] <yofel> yofel: http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/contribute.html has a direct link to the channel
[20:37] <yofel> erm
[20:37] <yofel> http://kubuntu.org/community
[20:37] <yofel> that's what you want
[20:37] <mhall119> clivejo2: he's Ridgewing I think
[20:39] <yofel> ok, the contribute page on the docs has the correct link - even if it does a weird external application request instead of the webchat
[20:40] <ahoneybun> mhall119: that laptop would be nice with Unity 8 lol
[20:41] <mhall119> ahoneybun: bring it to fossetcon and show it off
[20:41] <ahoneybun> should I wait till a few days later to grab the latest image?
[20:41] <ahoneybun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso?
[20:42] <mhall119> ahoneybun: no idea, ask in #ubuntu-unity they can give better advice
[20:43] <Ridgewing> good idea : more often ubuntu podcast
[20:49] <clivejo2> when you are all together, do another session!
[20:49] <valorie> uh, did I miss the meeting?
[20:50] <yofel> valorie: yep, it just finished (after ~50min overtime)
[20:50] <valorie> wth, time-zone crap
[20:50] <valorie> grrrr
[20:50] <yofel> valorie: we're still in the hangout if you want to join
[20:50] <mhall119> valorie: it's recorded at least
[20:51] <yofel> we're just off air
[20:51] <valorie> omg, it looks like I have a dentist appt right now
[20:51] <valorie> sec
[20:57] <Ridgewing> Link to kiwiirc : http://www.kiwiirc.com/
[20:57] <yofel> thanks
[21:07] <Ridgewing> Did you have that Kubuntu dev irc channel ?
[21:11] <ahoneybun> Ridgewing: #kubuntu-devel
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-uos-community
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[14:24] <czajkowski> salut
[14:25] <nhaines> czajkowski: good morning!
[14:38] <czajkowski> nhaines: I think it was you but there is a SF meet up on Mission St. tonight
[14:46] <nhaines> czajkowski: oh, unfortunately I'm 7 hours south, what a shame.
[15:03] <dpm> hi all, just setting up the session, bear with me 1 minute :)
[15:05] <czajkowski> dpm: np thanks
[15:06] <dpm> ok, session links set up on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22610/community-roundtable/ for those who want to join
[15:07] <nhaines> I'm watching now. :)
[15:08] <czajkowski> nhaines: hmm all I see Live stream is starting soon
[15:08] <nhaines> czajkowski: that's all I see too, but it *is* soothing.
[15:09] <czajkowski> nhaines: if you say so :)
[15:10] <popey> Hello hello
[15:10] <nhaines> popey: hello!
[15:11] <ahayzen> o/
[15:11] <popey> o/
[15:11] <DanChapman> o/
[15:12] <James_Mulholland> o/
[15:13] <vthompson> \o (think differently)
[15:13] <ahayzen> vthompson, you broke my Mexican wave :-P lol
[15:13] <bannannas> do you guys smoke?
[15:13] <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/track/community/
[15:14] <cm-t> o/
[15:14] <faenil> o/
[15:15] <ahayzen> Community Convergence \o/
[15:15] <bannannas> what is popey drinkin?
[15:16] <bannannas> is that a cat in background?
[15:16] <cm-t> I've heard #ubucon !
[15:16] <bannannas> it looks like the cat is on popey shoulder :D
[15:16] <bannannas> :))
[15:16] <mhall119> bannannas: popey's cat is a staple of Ubuntu Online Summits
[15:16] <bannannas> cat star
[15:18] <cm-t> Promo for those in france this month: Paris ( https://ubuntu-paris.org ) Rouen ( https://ubuntu-rouen.org ) and Toulouse ( https://2015.capitoledulibre.org )
[15:18] <cm-t> ( #ubucon in france (
[15:18] <dpm> thanks cm-t!
[15:19] <Mirv> the cat is very thorough in cleaning its butt
[15:19] <bannannas> haha
[15:19] <mhall119> Mirv: as all cats are
[15:19] <nhaines> Now the cat is sleeping.
[15:19] <Mirv> the males sometimes are a bit more messy...
[15:19] <nhaines> No, there it goes again.
[15:19] <Mirv> like my white one
[15:19] <bannannas> is that an unreleased ubuntu phone on popey upper shelf?
[15:20] <bannannas> or a table?
[15:20] <bannannas> tablet
[15:22] <cm-t> Question: When i plug the usb power to the sliport adapter, the phone show itself to be charging. do i still will have issue with batterie with that nexus4 pluged for 2 days
[15:22] <bannannas> does that logitec work with the unreleased ubuntu phone?
[15:22] <ksantacr> nice keyboard :D
[15:22] <nhaines> I found one of those over at Best Buy last week. They do look like nice keyboards.
[15:23] <ianorlin> mhall119: maybe ask if you could borrow ahoneybun if he has one
[15:23] <mhall119> I think he only has a bt mouse, which I also have
[15:24] <ianorlin> ask loco mailing list?
[15:24] <mhall119> ianorlin: yeah, good idea
[15:25] <cm-t> taking ubucon word is not bad idea: We at ubuntu-fr do ubucon under the name of ubuntu-party since 2007, but we are now feelling bad because our hashtag #ubuntuparty is 'stolen' sometimes when a political party called ubuntu party is doing some hashtag :(
[15:25] <czajkowski> :(
[15:25] <popey> bannannas, which tablet?
[15:25] <mhall119> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-community-roundtable
[15:25] <czajkowski> dpm: http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uos-1511-community-roundtable/latest
[15:25] <popey> bannannas, (i have no unreleased devices)
[15:26] <dpm> thanks!
[15:26] <bannannas> popey: :)) sure
[15:30] <mhall119> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad
[15:31] <bannannas> lunchpad mmm
[15:31] <bannannas> who's hungary?
[15:32] <czajkowski> increasing or decreasing ??
[15:32] <mhall119> decreasing
[15:32] <cm-t> Not sure where to ask: I wanted to order some sticker pack. I choose €. i select 2 sricker pack. when i checkout, i can see it will be 0.02kg, means it's ok with fees, should be close to postcard prices. But less expensive option is 11pounds. Of course i will not order that, will wait a community event to get some, really not giving tjat money to ups for 0.02kg
[15:33] <cm-t> 11£ just for delivery, while the 0.02kg item cost itself less thab 5€
[15:36] <jose> dpm: what about putting a little jar for tips at events and that collected money going to the fund?
[15:37] <mhall119> jose: somebody would have to make that donation
[15:37] <mhall119> it'd probably be better use to just apply the tip jar funds to the loco team running the event
[15:38] <jose> mhall119: maybe for huge events like scale it may bring some extra money?
[15:38] <mhall119> maybe
[15:38] <czajkowski> jcastro BINGO!
[15:38] <czajkowski> people don';t know what they can ask for in the fund and know people everyday do
[15:39] <ksantacr> kisses for money :D
[15:42] <dpm> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute
[15:49] <dshimer> As "just a desktop user", I try to donate each release. I love the sliders but agree that a couple could be merged or at least explained. I would use an "I Donated" button especially on G+. And is there an official Flattr avenue to donate?
[15:49] <mhall119> I don't think we have anything on flattr for Ubuntu as a project
[15:49] <mhall119> individual contributors might have their own
[15:50] <dpm> we don't have it, no I don't think
[15:50] <James_Mulholland> The amazon thing is a good one, as it comes at no extra cost to the user. Amazon just provide a kickback form their own profit for the referal
[15:50] <James_Mulholland> *from
[15:50] <nhaines> I know I've been encouraging everyone to buy my own book through my website and the affiliate link there. It doubles my royalty, basically.
[15:50] <dshimer> I always keep some cash in Flattr and just subscribe to favorite projects. Sure it isn't much but I go with the philosophy "if everyone did a buck or two"
[15:51] <mhall119> nhaines: smart :)
[15:52] <nhaines> mhall119: and hey, someone in September clicked *right* past my book and bought like 10 Star Wars comics and that earned me $6. :)
[15:52] <cm-t> When i make a donation, shouldn't i be invited to suscribe to a newsletter or something about where thz found went, action that was made and all ?...
[15:53] <nhaines> cm-t: the reports are quarterly and sort of fuzzily remembered. :)
[15:53] <dshimer> One more mention of Flattr it does monthly subscriptions
[15:53] <cm-t> I mean, i don't remeber i could suscribe to a diggest when donating
[15:54] <nhaines> I still have a bit of bitcoin floating around.
[15:55] <jose> action item for me
[15:55] <jose> and twitter has been fixed
[15:55] <jose> calendar as well
[15:56] <nhaines> \o/
[15:58] <dpm> thanks everyone on IRC
[15:58] <Ridgewing> thanks everyone.
[15:58] <dpm> jose, even without being on the hangout, you managed to get a WI ;)
[15:58] <ksantacr> ty
[15:58] <dpm> "well done" :)
[15:58] <ahayzen> thanks guys :-)
[15:58] <jose> hdhe
[15:59] <jose> uonair is a difficult topic... I'd have to explain a lot of things re the videos
[15:59] <jose> but if you want some input on that, thursday I'm available for the roundtable
[15:59] <jose> I'm in class right now
[16:02] <dpm> jose, cool, we can perhaps talk about it then
[16:03] <jose> sounds good
[16:03] <dpm> nhaines, omw
[16:03] <nhaines> dpm: do you have the link?
[16:04] <dpm> yeah
[16:05] <dpm> nhaines, actually, not. The link on summit takes me to the G+ event, but not to the actual hangout
[16:05] <dpm> nhaines, do you have the hangout link?
[16:05] <nhaines> Yup!
[16:07] <dpm> http://pad.ubuntu.com/1aSefD6s52
[16:07] <dpm> for those of you wanting to contribute to or follow the notes about the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase ^
[16:15] <nhaines> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase
[16:16] <Ridgewing> cheers !
[16:20] <Ridgewing> nhaines: That was me .. that was my domain !
[16:21] <nhaines> Ridgewing: oh great! Then please know that I felt really bad for losing your email.
[16:23] <Ridgewing> nhaines: That's ok .. I'm using the website for Ubuntu Q&A now, the domain was http://www.wilywerewolf.com/ .. you can check it out , later ...
[16:24] <Ridgewing> Ubuntu Q& A , I mean : posting my specs to get (e.g. the sound working etc) www.wilywerewolf.com/SonyVaio-VGN-FS285B.html
[16:30] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Can we possibly have more than one song on this disc ? please, possibly, pretty please ?
[16:32] <Ridgewing> nhaines: thanks - cheers for that !
[16:35] <Ridgewing> nhaines: My only improvement : Is that could we please have a wallpaper of a fantastic architectural building, in the crop-of-wallpapers that get admitted ?
[16:42] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Could nhaines give out his email address & twitter name for the community so that if we have any other suggestions - We can get in touch ?
[16:43] <Ridgewing> cheers for that.
[16:45] <dpm> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team
[16:47] <Ridgewing> got it !
[16:48] <Ridgewing> Question: Do think the showcase could be incentivised financially (as a prize of some sort) to give higher quality of submissions ?
[16:52] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Why don't you just offer an Ubuntu phone ? At least it can take video and photo anyway !
[16:54] <Ridgewing> ok I think we're done, for now, thanks .
[16:56] <nhaines> Ridgewing: thanks for joining us. :)
[16:57] <Ridgewing> nhaines: that's OK , can you keep chatting for a minute or two ?
[16:58] <nhaines> Ridgewing: yup, I'm free.
[16:59] <Ridgewing> Ok, great - first of all I don't want to freak you out or anything but I'm a Nathan too ... (!) .. just sayin'
[16:59] <nhaines> Haha, another one! :)
[16:59] <Ridgewing> I was thinking about changing it thou .. to curran.
[17:00] <nhaines> That's not a common name. It's very distinctive.
[17:00] <Ridgewing> (almost Nathan .. but I use cru-buntu (Crouton chromebook ubuntu) .. so it kinda fits for me.
[17:01] <Ridgewing> nhaines: I know it's distinctive .. I hate when people misprounce it annoyingly as "Nation" , which is the reason for the change .. that what do where I live, a_lot.
[17:02] <Ridgewing> *what they do where I live ...
[17:02] <nhaines> My friends' son sometimes says my name in German as a nickname, without the /th/ sound. But that's cute at least. :)
[17:02] <Ridgewing> What Na-an , is that it ?
[17:03] <Ridgewing> Anyway.. I'm getting off-topic .. I want to talk about something else ....
[17:04] <Ridgewing> I'm thinking about getting the xenial webaddress and putting the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase as a mediagoblin sub-domain on it.
[17:05] <nhaines> Like "Nah-tan"
[17:05] <nhaines> I don't know much about mediagoblin, so I'll have to look that up.
[17:06] <nhaines> It looks nice.
[17:06] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Oh how cute .. abit like "Han solo" with a Na .. yes I've had people in Ireland say that in Kerry too.
[17:06] <Ridgewing> nhaines: What does ?
[17:06] <nhaines> Mediagoblin.
[17:06] <Ridgewing> Oh yes, I'm ion contact with the developer - so it would be a good start ...
[17:06] <nhaines> One problem, though, is that it becomes Yet Another User Account that people have to sign up to submit to the contest.
[17:07] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Yes, but I think you can use google plus for that sorta thing, though. I don't think that's an issue (at large).
[17:10] <Ridgewing> MY question is : could you get canonical to back my website, if it is done in a proper manner, so that we can have the Ubuntu showcase etc ? I'm part of the IOM Lug and a genuine community ,member. I just feel I'm falling on deaf ears as far as promoting Ubuntu (in Canonical).
[17:10] <nhaines> Well, Canonical doesn't really have much to do with the contest.
[17:11] <nhaines> I'm a little reluctant to make a big change during the LTS cycle, but I could definitely see using mediagoblin for xenial+1.
[17:12] <Ridgewing> BUT I need canonical backing, if I'm to do an Ubuntu Showcase sub-domain so that we can use their trademark etc .. perhaps you could have a think about it and we could talk later in the UOS ?
[17:12] <nhaines> You don't need Canonical backing to use the Ubuntu trademark in reference to Ubuntu.
[17:13] <Ridgewing> Really, Didn't you hear about the "FixUbuntu.com" fiasco ?
[17:13] <nhaines> Yes, an intern sent out a letter and was immediately reprimanded.
[17:14] <nhaines> And then Canonical legal confirmed that the letter was not sent validly and no trademark license was needed, and they gave one anyway.
[17:14] <Ridgewing> ok, fair enough, maybe you are correct - but could we at least " have a think " about this stuff and talk later in the UOS ?
[17:15] <nhaines> I can always be reached at [email protected].
[17:16] <nhaines> If you just want permission, we can get that for you, but you shouldn't let that delay planning or development.
[17:16] <Ridgewing> ok, no probs , just try not to 'loose' it - and I shall be in touch, Cheers \o/
[17:16] <nhaines> Great, thanks! \o/
[17:17] <Ridgewing> OK - big hugs & back to my sandwich (it has bacon in it so I can't ignore it any longer :)
[17:18] <nhaines> Oh yes, I'm going out for lunch and then I'll come back and watch more sessions. :)
[17:18] <nhaines> Enjoy the bacon! :D
[17:38] <dragos> hi
[17:39] <Ridgewing> dragos: Hello there, how are you ?
[17:41] <dragos> Ridgewing: are u a dev?
[17:41] <dragos> and im ok
[17:42] <Ridgewing> I do the reddit posts.
[17:42] <dragos> but are u a ubuntu dev?
[17:43] <Ridgewing> dragos: No , not exactly a dev ... https://redd.it/3muy6a I do these.
[17:44] <dragos> oh...
[17:44] <dragos> i make ubuntu desktop widgets
[17:45] <dragos> hi hikiko
[17:46] <nhaines> Ridgewing: oh btw, those are insanely useful and also an insane amount of work. :)
[17:48] <dragos> what?
[17:50] <dpm> ok, next up, the Ubuntu Community Team Q&A as part of UOS this week :)
[17:50] <nhaines> I should go get that lunch. :)
[17:51] <dragos> i shoud g to eat cause im hungry :)
[17:53] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Yeah - only 10 minutes now - oh and go heavy on the Hellman's mayonnaise - you've earned it !
[17:55] <Ridgewing> dpm: are we nearly ready for this ? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22612/community-team-qa/
[17:55] <dpm> Ridgewing, yes we are :)
[17:55] <Ridgewing> awesome ..
[17:56] * Ridgewing slides everyone a beer who's attending UOS so far ! \o/
[17:58] <wxl> slow down, Ridgewing. some of us are still at work XD
[17:58] <wxl> to be frank, i'm still working on the first cuppa tea
[17:58] <Ridgewing> wxl, Sorry I nearly spilt some then ... (over 35 people) I only have two hands. ghehe
[17:58] <balloons> dpm, presumably we need to update ubuntuonair as well
[17:59] <dpm> balloons, it's up-to-date
[17:59] <balloons> dpm, the irc channel is wrong
[17:59] <balloons> fixing i
[17:59] <balloons> fixing it
[17:59] <Ridgewing> ballons are you on the etherpad too ?
[17:59] <Ridgewing> **balloons,
[17:59] <balloons> not atm
[18:00] <dpm> ok, ready to hit broadcast :)
[18:00] <Ridgewing> balloons: Well, it's up & ready to-go !
[18:00] <mhall119> o/
[18:00] <Ridgewing> live now.
[18:01] * balloons watches for the moment
[18:01] <wxl> "find the tab" does not necessarily sound right
[18:01] <mhall119> any questions for us, on any topic, ask them here starting with QUESTION
[18:01] <Ridgewing> wxl, I concur with you.
[18:02] <Dragos> mhall119:
[18:02] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Could the presenters also log into the etherpad too. So we can action things please .
[18:02] * mhall119 hopes he doesn't end up with action items from a Q&A
[18:03] <Ridgewing> you won't.
[18:03] <Dragos> quetion: why when i delete the .trash_1000 folder from usb nautilus freezezs on
[18:03] <Dragos> ubuntu 15.10
[18:04] <Ridgewing> Dragos: You need to put a question mark at the end , and also put your QUESTION: in caps like I did. Ok ?
[18:04] <Dragos> ok
[18:05] <mhall119> question mark isn't necessary
[18:05] <Dragos> QUESTIONL Why when i delete .trash_1000 folder from usb nautilus freeses?
[18:05] <Ridgewing> ok
[18:05] <Dragos> Ridgewing: are u an dev?
[18:05] <bluedragon77> QUESTION: Are there any tiling WM fans in Canonical? If yes, how can I contact them?
[18:05] <Ridgewing> Dragos: No. I told you I'm not.
[18:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Any updates on the telegram app for ubuntu phones? :D
[18:06] <Dragos> oh yea ...
[18:06] <frecel> QUESTION: is there a recommended hardware I should get to be able to plug in a screen mouse and keyboard to my nexus4 to test convergence features?
[18:06] <Dragos> who is a dev?
[18:07] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Your on the wrong channel, for that - this is community.
[18:07] <Dragos> oh..
[18:07] <wxl> QUESTION: Do we still need nominations for positions on the Community Council or the LoCo Council?
[18:07] <mhall119> he can ask any questions, even if we're not developers
[18:07] <YoBoY> hi
[18:07] <Ridgewing> mhall119: Can you paste in the dev channel on irc for Dragos ? please.
[18:08] <Ridgewing> YoBoY: Aloha!
[18:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: How are you all doing?
[18:08] <Dragos> ok
[18:09] <mhall119> Dragos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+filebug
[18:09] <Dragos> thanks mhall119
[18:09] <mhall119> no problem
[18:10] <Dragos> QUESTION: is there any desktop widgets for unity?
[18:11] <ChloeWolfieGirl> "Soon" that could mean "In a few hours" or "In a few weeks" its like Ahhh plz xD <3
[18:11] <walloons> QUESTION: why are so many russian scopes in ubuntu store?
[18:12] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: In the community roundtable with popey and JCastro etc - An action was asked about getting Jono Bacon on a christmas ubuntu-on-air, or sometime this year. Could we make sure that is actioned, as he keeps saying he wants to-do one on reddit ?& we miss the metal-guitar song at the end !
[18:12] <nhaines> ChloeWolfieGirl: if they ship it now, it will break your phone. :)
[18:12] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: What is the current state of the App Store? Can we (1) buy apps, (2) donate to open source apps, (3) in app purchases, and (4) subscriptions.
[18:12] <wxl> dpm: fwiw you are REALLY quiet compared to mhall119
[18:12] <Dragos> can ubuntu phone replace ubuntu desktop? :D
[18:12] <wxl> Dragos: convergence, man. ubuntu phone is ubuntu desktop.
[18:12] <Ridgewing> Dragos: never !
[18:12] <popey> Ridgewing, jono knows where we are :)
[18:12] <nhaines> QUESTION: dpm, can you send your extra Bluetooth keyboard to mhall119 so he doesn't have people using the touch keyboard on the TV?
[18:13] <popey> +1
[18:13] <dpm> haha, nice try, again :)
[18:13] <walloons> QUESTION: will bq launch the bq aquaris X5 with ubuntu?
[18:13] <nhaines> haha
[18:14] <walloons> QUESTION: is it possible to run firefox desktop on Ubuntu phones?
[18:14] <wxl> mhall119: LoCo council nominations appear to end this Thursday. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/10/15/loco-council-call-for-nominations/
[18:14] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: What happened to the design videos for both apps and unity8?
[18:15] <Dragos> will there will be ubuntu phone for s4 active?
[18:16] <Dragos> unity 8
[18:16] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: what app do you miss the most or which was available for ubuntu phone the most?
[18:16] <walloons> QUESTION: what happened to Ubuntu next image?
[18:16] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: find karni on IRC and ask him if you can get a copy of the 2.0 alpha
[18:16] <wxl> QUESTION: dpm could you please turn up your input so your volume matches that of mhall119 ? XD
[18:16] <CheeseBurg> walloons: I second that question
[18:16] <walloons> :d
[18:17] <walloons> :))
[18:17] <Ridgewing> +1
[18:17] <bluedragon77> A professional question. How does one become a combined developer and community manager? I am an IT student and I did dabble a bit into communication classes.
[18:17] <wxl> bluedragon77: fwiw, i use awesomewm, though i'm using lubuntu not ubuntu.
[18:18] <Ridgewing> lost video ...
[18:18] <Ridgewing> oh, there it is ..
[18:18] <bluedragon77> QUESTION: A professional question. How does one become a combined developer and community manager? I am an IT student and I did dabble a bit into communication classes.
[18:18] <Dragos> im 10
[18:18] <Ridgewing> figures.
[18:19] <nhaines> I'm available to jump into the video call if there are any LoCo or Ubucon Summit questions now, having finished lunch. :)
[18:19] <bluedragon77> QUESTION:Do you have any information will the AMD driver bug be fixed soon in 15.10?
[18:19] <nhaines> bluedragon77: that got fixed last week. Install fglrx-updates.
[18:20] <walloons> QUESTION: any news from mycroft on ubuntu phones?
[18:20] <AmarSingh> mycroft has a session here on thursday
[18:20] * wxl considers changing his nick to whaines
[18:20] <nhaines> walloons: they have their own session on Thursday.
[18:20] <walloons> nice
[18:20] <Sergi> When will we have libreoffice in Ubuntu Touch?
[18:21] <walloons> Sergi: prefix with QUESTION
[18:21] <Sergi> Sorry
[18:21] <walloons> np
[18:21] <Sergi> QUESTION: When will we have libreoffice in Ubuntu Touch?
[18:21] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: how about Satya Nadella for a guest for Ubuntu Q&A that would be an intresting one tbh xD ;P
[18:22] <AmarSingh> lol
[18:22] <Dragos> can i install ubuntu desktop apps on ubuntu phone?
[18:22] <wxl> ChloeWolfieGirl: honestly, that would be rather interesting, considering how opensourcey MS appears to be going
[18:23] <nhaines> Dragos: not yet, but soon.
[18:23] <Dragos> oh
[18:23] <Dragos> thanks
[18:23] <ChloeWolfieGirl> "Sooon"! xD
[18:23] <Dragos> I have plenty of time. I am only 10 yo
[18:24] <nhaines> Dragos: probably by January, but almost certainly by May.
[18:24] <Dragos> ok thanks
[18:24] <ChloeWolfieGirl> wxl Defiantly would be interesting, I'd love to see the questions asked as well xD
[18:25] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Is there an ISO for testing Unity8/Snappy Personal on desktop? Will there be one soon for broader testing?
[18:25] <wxl> ChloeWolfieGirl: i don't know if i believe them, though
[18:25] <wxl> ChloeWolfieGirl: they have had a tendency to appear to join the club and then take over
[18:25] <Dragos> How can i bee an ubuntu developer? i just want to feel special
[18:26] <nhaines> CheeseBurg: there is no ISO, and there probably won't be one until after 16.04 LTS.
[18:26] <nhaines> Dragos: to be an Ubuntu developer, you just have to help fix bugs in Ubuntu. So study programming!
[18:26] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Is canonical heavily branching out to try and get support from other software venders I'm sure a few people at canonical are trying to talk to people like the guys at whatsapp but is there alot of effort there and how are the talks going?
[18:26] <wxl> Dragos: you start developing
[18:27] <ChloeWolfieGirl> exl Yeah I agree.. like 3 q&A's later "Welcome to Microsoft Ubuntu Q&A" no thank you
[18:27] <wxl> hehehehe
[18:27] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Dragos https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[18:27] <Dragos> QUESTION:How can i bee an ubuntu developer? i just want to feel special
[18:27] <wxl> ChloeWolfieGirl: i will say i *WANT* to believe, and certainly the landscape of software has changed. open source is a common thing now.
[18:28] <AmarSingh> Dragos try find a task http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task/#!/toplevel/develop
[18:28] <CheeseBurg> nhaines:16.04 will have Unity8 as an option correct?
[18:28] <ChloeWolfieGirl> wxl: Yeah I'd like to see MS supporting Ubuntu and Ubuntu phone but highly unlikely to happen, like have you seen how old our skype version is?
[18:28] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Can you code in QML yet ? It'd be a good start.
[18:29] <Dragos> yes..
[18:29] <wxl> true, true. however, i think linux hasn't reached the same status open source has. soon.
[18:29] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Do a task like AmarSingh said, then.
[18:30] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Dragos make some apps or try to fix some bugs in other apps?
[18:30] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: There is an action on Etherpad that needs completeing ....
[18:30] <Dragos> ok
[18:30] <nhaines> CheeseBurg: well, it's had one since 13.04, but it's not nice. :)
[18:32] <CheeseBurg> mhall119: There used to be design Q&As, I can't find them now but I did fine this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8fNU3iH5u0
[18:32] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Can we use firefox extensions on the Ubuntu browser - Is This Scheduled ?
[18:32] <dpm> wxl, done that, let's see if it'S any better now
[18:33] <CheeseBurg> nhaines: That isnt Snappy personal tho
[18:33] <Dragos> QUESTION: will there will be ubuntu phone for s4 active?
[18:33] <wxl> dpm: well we'll see if nhaines ever shuts up :)
[18:33] <dpm> lol
[18:33] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Hows Mycroft for the ubuntu phone going, any of you tried it?
[18:34] <wxl> dpm: hate to say it but not really
[18:34] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Here's the updated list of phones that work : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[18:34] <nhaines> CheeseBurg: snappy personal doesn't exist yet. But the roadmap shows probably May-June ish. Maybe a little earlier as a preview.
[18:35] <CheeseBurg> nhaines:Thanks!
[18:35] <Dragos> QUESTION can someone guess my age? im 10
[18:36] <wxl> Dragos: um, 10.
[18:36] <Ridgewing> ChloeWolfieGirl: Good question !
[18:36] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Keep ubuntu-ing !
[18:36] <Sergi> In desktop I have to go to Archlinux because of a video driver (xserver-xorg-video-tdfx).
[18:36] <Dragos> okey
[18:36] <Dragos> i find that you can run X.org apps on ubuntu phone like libreoffice or firefox
[18:37] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Ridgewing: thank you :)
[18:37] <Ridgewing> k
[18:37] <Sergi> QUESTION: Is Archlinux driver more updated that that one in 15.10?
[18:38] <Cracknel> You can always download the driver directly from AMD.
[18:38] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: will there be a good way to separate to look at apps only optimal for desktop use?
[18:38] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESION: Any update about the HUD?
[18:39] <Sergi> Cracknel: The open driver in Archlinux works fine.
[18:39] <Ridgewing> dpm: I think we need to start speeding through all the questions .... soon.
[18:40] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Have there been any plans for bringing a background image under scopes and other customisability options such as changing the way the keyboard looks etc?
[18:40] <Dragos> mhall119: i find that u can run xorg apps on ubuntu phone over mir desktop manager
[18:40] <ChloeWolfieGirl> "soooooon" xD
[18:40] <AmarSingh> I miss the background image in scopes
[18:40] <AmarSingh> imo it looked nicer
[18:42] <frecel> if we can't do WhatsApp maybe at least we can get a potato salad
[18:42] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: How the situation with the overall Ubuntu community? With several Kubuntu developers leaving, the narrative from the news sites is that Ubuntu's community is shrinking.
[18:42] <Dragos> QUESTION: is there an ps3 emulator for ubuntu?
[18:42] <UbuntuFun_de> Hi there
[18:42] <Cracknel> Sergi: you can use a newer kernel from the hardware enablement stack, the mainline builds from kernel.ubuntu.com or build it yourself
[18:43] <CheeseBurg> Dragos:Such a thing does not exist. Period.
[18:43] <Ridgewing> CheeseBurg: Yeah , good question : What the hell is happening with Kubuntu 16.04 now Mr Riddell has left ?
[18:43] <Ridgewing> UbuntuFun_de: Hiya !
[18:44] <Dragos> ok
[18:45] <Ridgewing> Dragos: Your using the wrong console : https://launchpad.net/xbox360/
[18:45] <Dragos> xD
[18:45] <Ridgewing> xD yourself.
[18:46] <Sergi> Cracknel: Thank you. I'll think on it. But for me is easier to use a distro where it works well.
[18:46] <wxl> Ridgewing: it's still moving along.
[18:46] <AmarSingh> QUESTION: Are there any design mockups of what a finished Unity 8 might look like? Some of the concepts that people made attracted quite a bit of attention :)
[18:47] <Ridgewing> wxl, what is moving along, the video (?)
[18:47] <wxl> Ridgewing: kubuntu.
[18:47] <Ridgewing> oh Ok. so it'l be happening then (Kubuntu 16.04) ??
[18:48] <wxl> yes, Ridgewing
[18:48] <Ridgewing> phew, thank cheesus for that !
[18:48] <Dragos> gtg
[18:49] <nhaines> bye, Dragos!
[18:50] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Will there be a mac and windows version of the Ubuntu browser ?
[18:50] <wxl> nooooooooooooooooooo not more browsers
[18:51] <Ridgewing> Yes yes yes , for it is written !
[18:51] <Dragos> what can i join?
[18:51] <wxl> Dragos: in relation to what?
[18:51] <AmarSingh> What do you mean Dragos?
[18:52] <Dragos> it sad that i have a few years to join what?
[18:52] <wxl> dragos: in general, this is open source. you can join whatever you want. :)
[18:52] <Ridgewing> the samaritans ?
[18:52] <wxl> Ridgewing: but only the good ones!
[18:52] <Ridgewing> have you ever met a bad samaritan ?
[18:52] <Dragos> mhall119: what can i join? u sad i have a few years that i can join something
[18:53] <wxl> well for something to be good, there has to be bad
[18:53] <wxl> they are relative words :)
[18:53] * Ridgewing walks on both sides of the roadc at once !
[18:55] <cm-t> o/
[18:55] <Ridgewing> wxl, I think "the bad" is in this case, the customer and/or user . So you've got the good, the bad, I'll let Kim Kardashian be the ugly.
[18:55] <wxl> heheheh
[18:55] <Dragos> what session has ended?
[18:55] <AmarSingh> This session
[18:55] <Dragos> what session?
[18:56] <wxl> Dragos: the ubuntu community q&a session
[18:56] <Dragos> oh...
[18:56] <Dragos> ok
[18:56] <wxl> Dragos: in fact, all the sessions for this hour have officially ended
[18:56] <wxl> but obviously we're still going on :)
[18:56] <Dragos> how can i join canonical?
[18:57] <wxl> Dragos: become of age to get a job :)
[18:57] <AmarSingh> Thanks all
[18:57] <Ridgewing> dpm: Your audio is awfull.
[18:57] <Dragos> but he sad i can join canonical
[18:57] <wxl> Dragos: when you do, there are remote work opportunities available http://www.canonical.com/careers
[18:57] <UbuntuFun_de> Thank you guys
[18:58] <wxl> i'm going to go check out the kubuntu session
[18:58] <wxl> thanks dpm nhaines mhall119 for all your hard work in the community
[18:58] <nhaines> Well that was fun. :)
[18:58] <nhaines> wxl: thanks! Of course, you do a bit of work yourself.
[18:58] <Ridgewing> nhaines: Maybe you should mention that Kubuntu has a session on directly after this.
[18:58] <wxl> nhaines: a bit XD
[18:58] <dpm> yeah, it was a fun one :)
[18:58] <dpm> yw wxl
[18:59] <Dragos> dpm: can i join canonical at 10?
[18:59] <Ridgewing> Dragos: You may need a note from your Mom, but yes.
[18:59] <Dragos> my mon and my dad let me
[18:59] <Dragos> and how?
[19:00] <Ridgewing> Join Launchpad then ...
[19:00] <Dragos> ok bye
[19:00] <Ridgewing> ww.launchpad.net
[19:01] <dpm> Generally it's about having the right skills for the right job, and not about age. That said, with 10 you might want to concentrate in school first, and then see if software development is the career you want to choose
[19:01] <nhaines> True. Once that dark path you have gone, forever will it dominate your future.
[19:01] <dpm> :-)
[19:04] <dpm> wxl, ah, I found out what's up with my audio. It was picking up the wrong source - internal mic instead of the better webcam's one
[19:05] <wxl> dpm: doh hahahah
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[00:22] <khod> How do I find out if I have the newest sdk i intalled with the repo and its version 1.221
[01:35] <khod> :-1: error: security_policy_version_matches_framework (game/game.apparmor): 1.2 != 1.3 (ubuntu-sdk-15.04) anyone seen this error before, just trying to run the bacon2d example no changes on my nexus 4 running 15.04 r26
[01:36] <khod> ah commited bug had to delete some of it for google to find something
[02:09] <ahayzen> khod, looks like the apparmor profile version is incorrect (not matching your framework) check in your .apparmor file and try changing the policy version to 1.3
[02:10] <khod> ah thanks so much
[02:13] <khod> a security policys window pops up allowing me to add to the list but nowhere to change it to 1.3
[02:23] <ahayzen> khod, you should be able to select "JSON" and manually type it
[02:24] <ahayzen> or just open the file in a plain text editor
[02:40] <khod> thanks again
[02:59] <khod> that is fixed but i get this error, module "Bacon2D" is not installed which the template was already there. is there a way to check I thought this was all part of the sdk but i did try to install like the github said
[03:12] <ahayzen> khod, probably best to ask kenvandine when he is about as he has made most of the Bacon2D stuff
[03:42] <khod> will do I talked to him earlier today
[03:43] <khod> should I email (the one from git hub) him or would the most polite way be to wait till he gets back on the irc
[03:54] <nhaines> khod: probably depends on how quickly you need the answer, or if you want to discuss back and forth.
[03:57] <khod> good call i've never got anything solved in one ask, better wait to get more answers haha
[03:58] <nhaines> Yup. :)
[04:09] <khod> eh, im just a little odd i guess, didn't see when I installed it mentions that what I did is outdated and has a link and now everything works fine. Learning to code is gonna be real hard if I dont read lol and I havent even started yet.
[05:09] <nhaines> khod: well, now you're off to a good start. :)
[09:15] <alexforsale> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13090385/ ?
[09:16] <alexforsale> somehow it doesnt mount the /firmware partition
[09:16] <alexforsale> the device detected by lsusb, but no adb
[09:18] <alexforsale> init: Failed to spawn adbd main process: unable to execute: Permission denied
[09:20] <alexforsale> btw is this the right channel for porting?
[09:32] <abeato> tsdgeos, morning, did you already try silo 9 again?
[09:32] <tsdgeos> abeato: yeah i did, the ui freeze is still there
[09:32] <tsdgeos> abeato: you can't reproduce it?
[09:32] <abeato> tsdgeos, nope
[09:32] <abeato> never happened to me
[09:32] <abeato> tsdgeos, is the other error gone?
[09:32] <tsdgeos> sounds to me you're just doing sync dbus calls that freeze the ui
[09:33] <tsdgeos> the other error was gone since i reworked the code
[09:33] <tsdgeos> so i don't know if you fixed it or not
[09:33] <abeato> he
[09:33] <tsdgeos> i can try the testcases if you want
[09:33] <abeato> well, I guess you can go back to your older code if you prefer that
[09:38] <tsdgeos> abeato: yes the other bugs seem to be fixed, or at least the testcases now work
[09:38] <tsdgeos> abeato: want me to record a video of the ui freeze i speak about so you can see it?
[09:39] <abeato> great
[09:39] <abeato> tsdgeos, that could we good, also the output of dbus-monitor can be interesing
[09:39] <abeato> tsdgeos, how many tracks do you have around?
[09:41] <abeato> tsdgeos, btw, I noticed that in some cases the "play" icon does not change to "pause" when starting to play a song from the scope
[09:41] <abeato> although the song starts playing
[09:42] <tsdgeos> abeato: and can you scroll the list in that case?
[09:42] <tsdgeos> abeato: i have 10 tracks
[09:42] <abeato> tsdgeos, I play it direvtly from the Music scope
[09:43] <tsdgeos> yes
[09:43] <abeato> I see there 2 songs, one from an album with more songs, the other is the only one from that album
[09:44] <abeato> no scroll
[09:44] <abeato> tsdgeos, re: the freeze please attach output of unity8-dash too
[09:44] <tsdgeos> abeato: so you are not following the steps the bug mentions to reproduce
[09:45] <abeato> weird it is only 10, I have actually some more and all is smooth
[09:45] <abeato> I was not talking about the bug
[09:45] <abeato> ---> I noticed that in some cases the "play" icon does not change to "pause" when starting to play a song from the scope
[09:45] <tsdgeos> i don't know what we're talking about :D
[09:45] <abeato> about that ^^
[09:45] <tsdgeos> abeato: yes, it does not change to pause because it's frozen
[09:45] <abeato> unity8 is not forzen
[09:45] <abeato> *froxen
[09:46] <tsdgeos> you don't know since you can't scroll
[09:46] <tsdgeos> do you?
[09:46] <abeato> I can
[09:46] <tsdgeos> how do you know it's not frozen?
[09:46] <tsdgeos> you jus said you couldn't because there was no scroll!
[09:46] <abeato> it's a different issue
[09:46] <abeato> I thought you were talking about the scroll in the daparment
[09:46] <abeato> department
[09:48] <tsdgeos> ok, let's restart :D
[09:48] <tsdgeos> when you say you press play and it doesn't turn to pause
[09:48] <tsdgeos> can you scroll that view up/down ?
[09:48] <abeato> yes
[09:49] <tsdgeos> while that happens?
[09:49] <abeato> yes
[09:49] <abeato> again, I was talking about a separate issue to the freeze
[09:49] <abeato> the icon never changes
[09:49] <abeato> it is not that there is a delay
[09:52] <tsdgeos> never? i have not seen that
[09:52] <tsdgeos> how do you reproduce it?
[09:52] <abeato> 2 songs, one is a single, the other is from an album
[09:53] <abeato> play the one from the album in Music scope
[09:53] <abeato> then play the single
[09:53] <abeato> it starts playing normally
[09:53] <abeato> but the play icon does not change
[09:54] <abeato> admittedly I do not have the latest version of the scopes silo though
[09:54] <abeato> but I can try to install it
[10:01] <tsdgeos> abeato: you play both from the Music scope, that right?
[10:01] <abeato> correct
[10:04] <tsdgeos> ok, i'll have a look later, wonder what it is :/
[10:05] <abeato> great
[10:18] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Sandwich Day! 😃
[11:15] <Guest42341> hi all, i have question
[11:46] <victor_bq> Hi all
[11:46] <victor_bq> any body knows how to gather logs from battery stats¿
[11:58] <jibel> victor_bq, what do you mean by 'logs from battery stats' exactly ?
[11:59] <victor_bq> well, I just want to know how to pull logs about battery. How it drops for example
[12:00] <jibel> victor_bq, if you want the current status of the battery you can query upower
[12:00] <jibel> something like : upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_battery
[12:01] <jibel> victor_bq, the kernel also provides data about the state of the battery in /sys/class/power_supply/battery/
[12:01] <victor_bq> great, does it show battery consumption history or similar?
[12:02] <victor_bq> it's ok for now I'll try :)
[12:02] <mcphail> I'd like to know if it is possible to tell what has consumed battery over the past 24h. I had an abnormally high drain on Friday
[12:02] <Guest42341> power consumption per app would be nice
[12:02] <victor_bq> that's exactly what I want to gather from costumers :)
[12:02] <Guest42341> we need more data
[12:02] <victor_bq> that's reported I think
[12:03] <victor_bq> ohh my mistake, I reported about mobile data consumption per app
[12:03] <jgdx> victor_bq, IIRC this [1] discussion had a lot of good tools/ways of generating data. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/powerd/+bug/1372413
[12:04] <victor_bq> nice!
[12:04] <victor_bq> thank you guys
[12:05] <victor_bq> I've got a friend with 60% consumption in idle during the night :o
[12:05] <victor_bq> I'll try to get fresh logs
[12:06] <victor_bq> Guest42341 I take your suggestion for a bug if is not already reported :)
[12:07] <Guest42341> victor_bq, on the stable channel? i have now 0-1% / night on rc-proposed arale
[12:07] <jibel> victor_bq, there is no history AFAIK. But you can do a cron job or a small shell script to gather the data periodically. It won't run when the device is suspended, tough. Best thing to measure real power consumption is a multimeter.
[12:07] <Guest42341> victor_bq, the stable is 100 times more buggier than rc-proposed
[12:07] <Guest42341> victor_bq, i have no idea why people use the "stable" channel
[12:09] <victor_bq> yes, devices on stable channel has this problem :)
[12:09] <ogra_> Guest42341, because it gets the most QA
[12:09] <jibel> Guest42341, where does your 100 times buggier comes from?
[12:10] <victor_bq> all bugfixes from rc-proposed are moved to stable channel so it should be equal right? =)
[12:10] <Guest42341> ogra_, you have to live with the bugs for months
[12:10] <Guest42341> not than pleasant
[12:10] <Guest42341> jibel, random()
[12:11] <ogra_> victor_bq, yeah, at OTA ... between the OTAs rc-proposed can indeed be less buggy but is also nearly untested as a whole
[12:11] <Guest42341> and besides all the devs probably use the rc-proposed
[12:11] <ogra_> the final image tests for an OTA only happen at the end
[12:11] <jibel> Guest42341, heh, like the battery graph ;) j/k
[12:12] <mcphail> This was my drain on Friday. Played a podcast in the morning, but otherwise no real use - http://themcphails.uk/drain.png
[12:12] <ogra_> wrt battery graph sturmflut once did an interesting research comparing the little-kernel (bootloader kernel) with the actual system kernel and found quite some discrepancies
[12:13] <ogra_> i wonder if many of our issues stem from that
[12:13] <ogra_> (and i dont think anyone looked further, but given that the little-kernel actually initializes the hardware that would be my first area to look)
[12:14] <mcphail> I've been bitten by differences in what the "phone" thinks the charge is, and what "Ubuntu" thinks. That may be the system vs little kernel issue
[12:15] <ogra_> right
[12:17] <mcphail> OS was reporting 64% charge, whereas phone would not switch on without USB power as battery flat
[12:17] <popey> mcphail, did you use the camera at all?
[12:17] <mcphail> popey: no
[12:17] <popey> Someone at OggCamp said he opened the camera, it froze, he swiped away, and immediately after that he saw dramatic power drain like yours
[12:17] <mcphail> popey: just podbird in the morning
[12:18] <mcphail> popey: might have been the Ubuntu podcast, so I'll blame you
[12:18] <mcphail> ;)
[12:40] <dholbach> has anyone seen display problems with kernel messages like this on arale? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13091195/
[14:29] <Mirv> renatu: hey, thanks for testing, please edit the https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/584 and set it to "Ready for QA"
[14:30] <renatu> Mirv, doing that right now
[14:30] <renatu> Mirv, thanks for the the fix
[14:30] <renatu> Mirv, could you check that? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtpim-opensource-src/+bug/1462989
[14:33] <Mirv> renatu: ok, I'll provide a PPA for that next
[14:34] <renatu> thanks
[14:49] <abeato> tsdgeos, I've been digging in the freeze issue, it looks essentially like a storm of dbus calls due to too many qt signals being emitted
[14:50] <abeato> tsdgeos, I can mitigate it, but also it looks like the playlist is being re-created each time a song is selected, even if it is already in the current playlist
[14:51] <abeato> tsdgeos, so it might be worth making sure that playlists are not recreated in that case and see if performance improves in that case
[14:52] <ahayzen> abeato, that sounds possibly similar to the issue i'm having with the music-app freezing/taking ages when you make a playlist for the second time
[14:53] <abeato> ahayzen, yep, it is the case I'd say
[14:53] <abeato> jhodapp, ^^
[14:53] <ahayzen> abeato, what are the steps you are performing to cause this issue?
[14:54] <jhodapp> oh interesting
[14:54] <jhodapp> ahayzen, don't do that ;)
[14:54] <ahayzen> abeato, if its a small playlist (1 album) it seems to be ok, but when 1) click on the first track in Songs (creates playlist 250 tracks) 2) press back 3) click on the first track in Songs (recreates 250 track playlist) it appears to be stuck indefinitely
[14:55] <ahayzen> jhodapp, ;-)
[14:55] <abeato> ahayzen, well, it triggers doing a playlist for a second time, exactly like that
[14:55] <tsdgeos> abeato: yes, the playlist is recreated each time
[14:55] <ahayzen> ok so we both have the same issue :-)
[14:55] <tsdgeos> abeato: it has to be recreated, that's the design
[14:56] <abeato> jhodapp, QMediaPlaylist::syncControls() seems to be the main culprit
[14:56] <jhodapp> abeato, what are you testing when this happens?
[14:56] <ahayzen> internally we would be doing Playlist.addTracks() Playlist.clear() Playlist.addTracks()
[14:56] <abeato> tsdgeos, even if you play a song that is already in the list? I know it's a workaround, but might help things
[14:56] <jhodapp> abeato, syncControls's purpose is to copy the initial networkPlaylistControl's items into our version of the playlist
[14:57] <jhodapp> which are the initial items
[14:57] <tsdgeos> abeato: it is because it has to change the order of the tracks
[14:57] <abeato> jhodapp, it adds media one by one
[14:57] <abeato> which is crap
[14:57] <abeato> it should use your new function ;)
[14:57] <abeato> tsdgeos, ok, got it
[14:57] <jhodapp> abeato, update it...syncControls was written before addTracks()
[14:57] <ahayzen> abeato, music uses the new function but that still has the issue
[14:58] <ahayzen> but i'm not sure if its causing our saveQueue to be hit for *every* track or something lol
[14:58] <jhodapp> abeato, I agree
[14:58] <tsdgeos> abeato: can't we not do those dbus calls on the main thread so it's not blocked?
[14:59] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, wouldn't the main thread be the context that would block?
[15:00] <tsdgeos> jhodapp: bad english construction, i mean "do dbus calls not on the main thread"
[15:00] <tsdgeos> sorry ^_^
[15:00] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, right ok, we'll have to do something like that if we can't get it performant enough
[17:19] <zaolin1> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11970391/Internet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html
[17:20] <nhaines> I guess the UK hates having cell phones.
[17:20] <Stskeeps> wonder how that applies to OS makers in UK
[17:20] <zaolin1> Yep, that's a good question.
[17:26] <zaolin1> I guess all products coming from canonical must have a backdoor...
[17:27] <nhaines> Presumably it would only apply to cloud service storage, which Ubuntu doesn't offer.
[17:37] <sil2100> alecu, kgunn, Saviq: hey guys, I would need a final decision on which team should be the one 'owning' (subscribed) to the unity-api package: unity-ui-team or unity-api-team
[17:37] <sil2100> I want to include unity-api in main and it's required for us to get a proper team owning it
[17:40] <khod> Kenvandine, i want a clean template with bacon2d so do i only need to delete from the main.qml and the whole ball.qml?
[17:44] <alecu> sil2100: sounds like it's unity-api-team
[17:45] <sil2100> alecu: hm, I suppose you should become an admin of unity-api-team - does that sound correct?
[17:45] <alecu> sil2100: yes, it sounds ok
[17:46] <alecu> sil2100: several people on my team are admins there, so I'll ask to get admin too.
[17:46] <sil2100> I'll make you the admin now
[17:46] <Saviq> alecu, if you want it, I won't fight you :)
[17:46] <sil2100> ;)
[17:46] <sil2100> I would like you guys to sort it out and we can then subscribe the proper team and get it included in main
[17:47] <alecu> sil2100: thanks
[17:48] <alecu> sil2100: what's the lp project for that package? https://launchpad.net/unity-scopes-api ?
[17:48] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/unity-api
[17:48] <sil2100> alecu: by looking at the commiters, I thought more about unity-ui-team, but looking at the naming, unity-api-team is more fitting
[17:48] <sil2100> That's why I wanted you guys to decide who should be the final owner
[17:49] <omgCATS> i think there is something wrong with mediascanner
[17:49] <omgCATS> it's killing my battery (arale)
[17:50] * omgCATS from now on i am keeping an eye on what drains the battery
[17:55] <sil2100> Saviq, alecu: if you guys could give me a final decision soonish than I could continue on pushing the MIR request
[17:55] <Saviq> alecu, I think we know more about what unity-api is, probably more sense for us to own it
[17:57] <alecu> sil2100: I think saviq is right
[17:57] <Saviq> sil2100, /us, then
[18:00] <sil2100> Saviq, alecu: ok, thanks!
[18:00] <sil2100> Saviq: ok, I see that since I'm not an admin at unity-ui-team, could you subscribe the unity-ui-team on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-api ?
[18:01] <sil2100> Saviq: so that all bug-mail would be sent to that team
[18:01] <sil2100> It's a req for main inclusion
[18:01] <Saviq> sil2100, done, I think
[18:01] <sil2100> Saviq: yes, thanks :)
[18:06] <kenvandine> khod, sure, you can do that
[18:06] <kenvandine> khod, so you started out with the game template?
[18:09] <khod> Yes
[18:10] <khod> Is there a better way
[18:13] <kenvandine> khod, nope, just making sure it all worked for you :)
[18:13] <khod> Yes it took me a bit of doing and mostly help in here.
[18:14] <khod> I had to go into apparmor as a plain text file and change the number 1.2 to a 1.3 or the app would force close as soon as it opened. That happend on both the desktop and the phone (n4 not an emulator)
[18:15] <kenvandine> ugh
[18:15] <kenvandine> i guess i need to update the template ;)
[18:27] <khod> In the zip for you main.qml on pathwind i dont see much of anything inside is your main program file somewhere else in the zip?
[18:27] <khod> Kenvandine
[18:29] <kenvandine> khod, zip?
[18:29] <kenvandine> oh, did you download the source from github as a zip file?
[18:31] <kenvandine> khod, you should look at the ubuntu branch, not master
[18:31] <kenvandine> https://github.com/kenvandine/pathwind/blob/ubuntu/qml/ubuntu.qml
[18:32] <kenvandine> that's the main qml file
[18:32] <kenvandine> not much too it
[18:32] <kenvandine> khod, this is more interesting https://github.com/kenvandine/pathwind/blob/ubuntu/qml/GameView.qml
[18:33] <kenvandine> khod, and this is the playing scene https://github.com/kenvandine/pathwind/blob/ubuntu/qml/PlayingScene.qml
[18:34] <khod> Now were talking!! Thanks again
[18:35] <khod> I want to make a side scroller akin to the favorite part of an old snes game
[18:36] <khod> But pathwind will help alot in me finishing it i believe
[18:36] <khod> It will still be very different not trying to step on toes lol
[18:38] <kenvandine> khod, no worries
[18:38] <kenvandine> you should look at the flappy bird example though
[18:38] <kenvandine> it's using the newer API
[18:40] <kenvandine> khod, that flappy bird example uses an InfiniteScrollEntity
[18:40] <kenvandine> in fact, that's why we added that component :)
[18:40] <kenvandine> it would make pathwind simpler
[18:41] <kenvandine> khod, basically pathwind is a pretty old example of a bacon2d game, in fact it doesn't even work with the latest version of bacon2d :)
[18:43] <khod2> Kenvandine sorry still here judt lost my nick on a disconnect for some reason
[18:44] <khod2> I will check flappy bird first the more basic the better
[18:44] <kenvandine> cool
[18:44] <kenvandine> khod2, you can hang out in #bacon2d too
[18:45] <kenvandine> paulvap wrote the flappy bird example, usually hangs on in that channel to
[18:45] <kenvandine> not there now though
[19:20] <khod2> Is zbird the flappy bird game you mentioned kenvandine
[19:22] <OerHeks> https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.roman2861.zbird
[19:25] <khod2> I just want to make sure it is the same because he mentioned a flappy bird on touch useing the newer api
[19:25] <kenvandine> khod2, no
[19:25] <kenvandine> khod2, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB0QFjAAahUKEwjGsPLc_fTIAhXBHT4KHegJAc8&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fpaulovap%2Fbacon2d-flappybird&usg=AFQjCNHk-RfYe8KgGRwE3jKHaTXw_jMscw&sig2=dj8YubBUIxJygeBnIXa6mA&bvm=bv.106379543,d.cWw
[19:25] <kenvandine> damn
[19:25] <kenvandine> https://github.com/paulovap/bacon2d-flappybird
[19:25] <kenvandine> khod2, ^^
[19:26] <khod2> Ah
[19:31] <brendand> balloons, yoyo
[19:31] <balloons> bregma, oi
[19:31] <brendand> balloons, hey i only had the wrong channel :P
[19:31] <khod2> Kenvandine It hasn't hit the ubuntu store yet?
[19:31] <balloons> ugh
[19:32] * brendand waves at bregma
[19:32] <brendand> balloons, i feel an illness coming on, is it possible to shunt my session to thursday?
[19:32] <brendand> balloons, better safe than sorry
[19:33] <balloons> brendand, let's see what space we have
[19:33] <balloons> we certainly can shift it
[19:34] <brendand> balloons, i wasn't really prepared anyway so maybe my bodies helping me out :P
[19:34] <balloons> lol
[19:34] <brendand> no slides you say? quick, a fever!
[19:35] <balloons> brendand, 1500 on thursday>
[19:35] <balloons> ?
[20:43] <brendand> balloons, sorry, yeah that's good
[21:41] <Ubuntouch> Hello
[21:41] <Ubuntouch> how's everyone doin g
[21:41] <Ubuntouch> doing*
[21:43] <Ubuntouch> any love for an ASUS Nexus 7 2012 wifi? Not sure what the dev status is for touch on this old tablet. Not in the active dev section or in the abandoned area...
[21:44] <balloons> Ubuntouch, the old nexus 7 has a very difficult gpu
[21:45] <Ubuntouch> Hey, thanks for the reply balloons.
[21:47] <Ubuntouch> Are there any stale images for this device? Running CGM on it right now and just wanted to play around with touch and get the feel for it, my Nexus 10 is my primary tablet.
[21:48] <Ubuntouch> if by "difficult gpu" you mean artifacting/freezing/etc I could probably live with that just to take a look at it, unless you think it will brick/softbrick the tablet.
[21:50] <Ubuntouch> I thought this thing had an NVIDIA Tegra III?
[21:55] <balloons> the gpu driver is buggy and also locked down afaik
[21:56] <Ubuntouch> bummer, I see on the Tube that people have been installing full on ubuntu on these, I would imagine that would be pretty damned buggy... lol..
[21:56] <Ubuntouch> Thanks for your input balloons. Have a nice day.
[21:57] <balloons> Ubuntouch, the 2013 nexus 7 works like a champ
[21:57] <Ubuntouch> Yeah, I still don't want to shell out the 140+ bucks for one, the 10" tablet is more than enough for me atm
[21:58] <balloons> http://askubuntu.com/questions/633788/installing-ubuntu-touch-on-nexus-7-2012-now-that-it-is-no-longer-supported
[21:58] <Ubuntouch> and the 7" was a hand-me-down because of the usb/sound board issue, going to replace that and wanted to mess around with some different OS'es in the meantime.
[22:01] <Ubuntouch> Thanks for the link balloons. By far the best IRC experience I've had in years. People generally just park and PM in virtually every IRC I have joined in the last 10 years... lol...
[22:03] <Ubuntouch> When the live-chat link took me to an IRC room I was like "oh great, (insert cricket chirping sounds)"
[22:09] <balloons> lol
[22:09] <dobey> the last images that were built for the grouper (2012 n7) were entirely unusable
[22:09] <dobey> so i wouldn't even waste time trying to get one running on it
[22:17] <Ubuntouch> Yeah dobey, I have been reading up on it and even the sources are deprecated so it's more of a pain in the @$$ than it used to be. I am over it already... lol...
[22:19] <Ubuntouch> Sad though, it's gone the way of my old Moto Electrify 4G... Motorola promised to push ICS to these devices then silently released 2.3.5 OTA which locked the bootloader. All the devs gave up on it due to moto being proprietary jerks
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[11:25] <dandrader> anpok, what's the ETA for mouse pointer configurable speed and acceleration in the relative axes?
[13:08] <anpok> dandrader: it is close.. we want to include it in the next release..
[13:09] <dandrader> anpok, great!
[13:10] <dandrader> seems that MIR_SOCKET changed recently. I used to point to the directory where mir_socket was located but now it's meant to contain the full file path. Am I right?
[13:13] <greyback_> dandrader: I've always specified the actual socket file, not the directory its in
[13:16] <dandrader> greyback_, news for me... I even wrote it qtmir's README file that MIR_SOCKET points to a directory
[13:16] <dandrader> greyback_, gotta update that
[13:17] <greyback_> bad me for not noticing that
[17:04] <sil2100> kgunn: heeey!
[17:05] <sil2100> kgunn: does your team (https://launchpad.net/~unity-ui-team) want to be the maintainer (subscriber) of the unity-api package? ;)
[17:05] <kgunn> sil2100: whats up?
[17:05] <sil2100> kgunn: to get it included in main we need to have a proper team assigned to it
[17:06] <sil2100> And cross-checking latest committers with the team members, it fits
[17:06] <kgunn> sil2100: yeah, guess that makes sense
[17:06] <kgunn> Saviq: mzanetti greyback_ ^ fyi
[17:06] <kgunn> i need to reboot....bbiab
[17:09] <mzanetti> sil2100, hmm... as the name suggests, I thought the unity-api team would be in charge of that... that's probably a Saviq question in the end as he's managing our resources
[17:12] <sil2100> mzanetti: would be good as well
[17:12] <sil2100> mzanetti: I just saw that basically that team had most of the committers
[17:12] <sil2100> Saviq: ping
[17:13] <sil2100> Anyway, I need one of the two teams to subscribe to the unity-api Ubuntu package
[17:13] <mzanetti> yes. alecu and Saviq need agree on that, can't decide
[17:13] <mzanetti> *to
[17:14] * sil2100 zaps Saviq with a tazer
[17:45] <Saviq> sil2100, here, us is fine, it usually needs to land with unity8
[17:46] <sil2100> Saviq: if you're still around, let's move this discussion to #ubuntu-touch
[18:05] <greyback_> RAOF: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtubuntu/enable-debug-mode/+merge/276293
[18:38] <Saviq> anpok_, hey, is mir 0.18 anywhere I could try it from?
[18:42] <bschaefer> Saviq, i think its in trunk :)
[18:42] * bschaefer doesnt know of a ppa though
[18:43] <Saviq> bschaefer, thanks, Cpt. Obvious! ;D
[18:43] <Saviq> beer o'clock, then
[18:43] <bschaefer> :)
[18:43] <bschaefer> enjoy
[19:29] <bschaefer> Saviq, made a ppa if you wanted to test trunk mir: https://launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/+archive/ubuntu/mir-trunk
[19:29] <bschaefer> once these finish... https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/+recipe/trunk-mir
[19:31] * bschaefer broke it
[19:37] <bschaefer> Saviq, i should have waited for the branch to finish being pushed :) (should be building now)
[20:08] <bschaefer> Saviq, hopefully you dont need arm... (since my ppa doesnt have those powers) :(
[20:08] * bschaefer assumes you need arm
[20:09] <bschaefer> Saviq, actually looks like this: https://launchpad.net/~mir-team/+archive/ubuntu/staging
[20:09] <bschaefer> has trunk mir in it
[20:09] <bschaefer> for arm
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:08] <autowiz_> 오늘도 건강하고 활기찬 하루 되세요~~
[00:28] <crixer> 해킨토시를 한번해볼까하고 usb를 샀는데
[00:28] <crixer> 200메가가 부족하네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[00:28] <crixer> 그래서 그냥 우분투로 다시 변경했습니다
[00:28] <crixer> 새로산건데... 해킨토시하려고.. 16기가살걸그랬어요
[00:29] <crixer> 8기가로도 충분하다길래 8기가샀더니 7.33기가네요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[00:29] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[00:29] <crixer> 안녕하세요~
[00:29] <PotatoGim> 아침부터 마라톤 회의하러 갑니다~ㅜㅜ
[00:29] <crixer> 포테토님 그 전에 말한
[00:29] <autowiz_> 마라톤 가신다는줄 ㅎㅎ
[00:29] <crixer> 사고치고 본인을 짜르라고 말한 그 사람은어떻게됐나요?
[00:30] <autowiz_> 그분은 사마휘님 쪽
[00:30] <PotatoGim> 아.. 그 사건은 사마휘님이...
[00:30] <crixer> 아 그건사마휘님이군요
[00:30] <crixer> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ ㅠㅠ.
[00:30] <PotatoGim> 있다보면 관할이 헷갈릴 때가 많습니다 ㅋㅋ
[00:38] <ipeter_> 휴
[00:38] <ipeter_> 도착했습니다.
[00:38] <ipeter_> 안녕하세요?
[00:38] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[00:44] <autowiz_> 잉? 이제 도착하신거에요?
[00:45] <LevDino04> 안녕하세요
[00:46] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요
[00:46] <LevDino04> 좋은아침입니다 ㅎ
[00:46] <LevDino04> ㅎㅎ
[00:47] <autowiz_> 날씨는 좀 추워도 마음은 따뜻한 아침 되세요~~
[00:48] <LevDino04> 감사합니다 ㅎㅎ;;
[00:48] <autowiz_> 감사하시면 500원 입니다 ㅎㅎ
[00:51] <LevDino04> 흐흐 500원대신 커피한잔 사드리겠습니다 ㅎㅎ
[00:53] <autowiz_> 커브드 TV 나 모니터로 작업 하시는분 계신가요?
[00:54] <autowiz_> TV 나 영화시청 말고 업무에 커브드 괜찮은지 궁금해서요
[00:54] <autowiz_> http://prod.danawa.com/info/?pcode=3465274&cate=112757
[01:06] <ipeter_> 지금 커브드 티비 살까 말까 고민중이예요.
[01:06] <autowiz_> 아악 살짝 졸다 일어났더니 화면에 q 만 한가득 ㅠㅠ
[01:21] <jun> ㅎㅎㅎ autowiz형 업무 자리 한번 구경해보고 싶네요
[01:22] <jun> 커브드 모니터까지 도입할 생각이시다니 ㅎㅎ
[01:39] <LevDino04> ㄷㄷㄷ
[01:39] <LevDino04> 전 14.5인치인가
[01:39] <LevDino04> 15인치 안되는거 쓰는데 집에서...
[01:39] <LevDino04> ..................
[01:40] <LevDino04> SyncMaster인가 먼가 엄청오래된 ㅠㅠ
[01:42] <autowiz_> 집이잖아요 , 저도 집에는 30인치 모니터 한대 밖에 없어요 ㅎㅎ
[02:05] <autowiz_> 뽀빠이님 안녕하세요
[02:06] <autowiz_> 저 뽀빠이님 혹시 일요일날 결혼식 다녀오셨나요?
[02:06] <popeye92> 엄x정 결혼식 말씀이신가요?
[02:07] <autowiz_> 넵
[02:07] <popeye92> 네 갔다왔습니다.
[02:07] <autowiz_> 아 저도 거기 있었는데 인사드릴껄 그랬네요 ㅋㅋ
[02:08] <popeye92> 그러셨군요. 몰라뵈서….
[02:08] <autowiz_> 저도 실제로는 첨 뵌거 같아서 여기 오시는 그 뽀빠이님이 맞는지 아닌지 몰라서
[02:09] <autowiz_> 인사를 못드렸습니다 죄송합니다.
[02:09] <popeye92> 별 말씀을요..담엔 부담없이 아는 척 해주세요 :)
[02:10] <autowiz_> 감사합니다. ^^
[02:37] <popeye92> 먼저 알아봐주셔서 영광입니다.
[02:38] <autowiz_> 아닙니다 ㅎㅎ 별말씀을요 ㅎㅎ
[02:51] <jun> 점심시간이네요.. 맛점하세요~~~
[02:51] <jun> 저는 오늘도 다이어트를 위해서리...쿨럮~
[02:55] <autowiz_> 다이어트때도 뭘 조금이라도 먹는게 더 나을꺼같습니다.
[02:55] <autowiz_> 바나나 라던가 닭가슴살 이라던가
[02:58] <jun> 다이어트 쉐이크를 먹고 있습니다!
[02:58] <jun> 우유에 쒜낏쒜낏해서 먹고 잇습니다 ㅎㅎㅎ
[03:58] <autowiz_> vpn 연결하는방법 물으시던분
[03:58] <autowiz_> 어제 였군요.
[05:56] <samahui_WS> 점심 후 식곤증 때문인지 아니면 요즘 신경을 너무 써서 그런지 그것도 아니면 지난 밤 밤샘이 문제 였는지 .. 조립네요
[05:56] <samahui_WS> 좀 쉬다가 와서 일해야겠습니다
[06:01] <autowiz_> 푹~ 잘 쉬다가 오세요~~
[07:55] <HolyKnight> http://m.dcinside.com/view.php?id=stock_new1&no=1270589&page=1&exception_mode=recommend
[07:55] <HolyKnight> 이번주 역대급되려나유....
[07:58] <PotatoGim> 우엉.. 솔고바이오 대박이네요.
[08:09] <samahui_WS> 역시 회사에서 쉬는건 쉬는게 아니죠
[08:10] <samahui_WS> 그냥 퇴근이나 해버릴까 싶어요
[08:38] <razGon_MINILA> 랜섬웨어 무섭네요.ㅎ
[09:09] <samahui_WS> 윈도우 그것도 업데이트 오랜기간 안해주고 백신도 없는 머신이면 정말 무서워해야죠
[09:09] <samahui_WS> 전 퇴근하려고 들렸습니다. 오랜만에 풀침 할 수 있을듯합니다 ㅎㅎ
[09:09] <samahui_WS> 즐거운 저녁시간들 보내시고 행복한 밤 되세요~
[09:10] <samahui_WS> 특히! 야근하시는 분들!!! 꼭 저녁은 든든히 맛나게 먹고 쉬엄쉬엄 일하세요~ 농땡이는 필수! 입니다
[09:10] <samahui_WS> 내일뵈요~
[10:53] <dddd_> 안녕하세요
[10:58] <HolyKnight> http://jameschung.kr/archives/14336
[11:02] <HolyKnight> http://likejazz.com/post/132282149390/%ed%92%80-%ec%8a%a4%ed%83%9d-%ea%b0%9c%eb%b0%9c%ec%9e%90
[11:13] <PotatoGim> ...저는 풀스택도 아니거니와 모든 문제를 해결할 욕심도 없기에...
[11:13] <PotatoGim> 그냥 개발자로 살아야할 듯...ㅜ
[14:04] <samahui_WS> 복귀했습니다
[14:05] <samahui_WS> 꼭 쉬려고 생각하면 일이 터지죠
[14:05] <samahui_WS> ㅜㅜ
[14:05] <samahui_WS> 즐겁게 야근합시다!!!
[15:07] <autowiz_> 네네 감사합니다.
[15:07] <autowiz_> 즐겁게 즐겁게 ㅎㅎㅎ
[15:39] <HolyKnight> http://m.huffpost.com/kr/entry/8449586
[20:04] <autowiz> 안녕들하세요~ ㅎㅎ
[20:19] <DarkCircle> 오늘도 조용하네요 ~(~_~)~
[20:19] <DarkCircle> 무슨 일이 있...으려나요 ?ㅅ?
[20:19] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 안녕하세요
[20:20] <DarkCircle> 이력서 쓰는거 쉽...지가 않네요 ㅋㅎㅎ
[20:21] <DarkCircle> 학부 시절에는 진짜 완전 기고만장이라 막 썼는데
[20:23] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋ
[20:23] <DarkCircle> 이력서를 보니까 ... 쓰는게 중요한게 아니라
[20:23] <DarkCircle> 일단 다 써놓고 뭘 빼느냐가 - -;
[20:25] <Work^Seony> 일단, 실제로 했던 것만 적되, 그걸 좀 부풀리는게 중요하죠
[20:26] <DarkCircle> 적당~하게 부풀리면 좋은데. 부풀릴껀덕지도 ... 없어요 (먼산)
[20:27] <DarkCircle> 프리로 뛰다가 이제 정규직 뛰어드는거라 (...)
[20:28] <Work^Seony> 한국식 이력서 쓰는거죠?
[20:30] <DarkCircle> 외쿸식 이력서요
[20:30] <DarkCircle> 걍 되는대로 아무데나 찔러보게요.
[20:34] <DarkCircle> 어차피 도박인생 -ㅅ-
[20:35] <Work^Seony> 미국식 이력서라면, 일단 진행하신 프로젝트가 너무 많다면, 일반적으로는 그걸 다 일일히 기록하진 않구요,
[20:35] <Work^Seony> 프로젝트를 진행하면서 사용했던 기술적인 항목을 적는 편이에요
[20:35] <Work^Seony> 미쿡에서는, 어차피 사람 뽑을 때 사무직 윗선에서 뽑는게 아니라
[20:35] <Work^Seony> 그 사람을 데리고 쓸 바로 윗 상사가 뽑기 때문에,
[20:36] <Work^Seony> 그 "윗 상사"라는 사람이 결국은 같은 일을 하는 사람이라는 얘기고, 따라서 기술적인 핵심 사항만 척 보면 딱 아는거죠
[20:38] <Work^Seony> 예를 들자면, 제가 후임을 뽑는데 이력서에 이런게 적혀있따고 치면,
[20:38] <Work^Seony> SNMP를 이용하여 시스템 모니터링 하는 웹기반 툴을 작성했다
[20:38] <Work^Seony> 라고 하면, 높으신 분들은 몰라도, 일단 저는 알아먹을 수 있는거죠
[20:38] <Work^Seony> 아 얘가 뭘 하다 왔구나 하는 정도..
[20:43] <DarkCircle> 뭐 분야는 ...
[20:44] <DarkCircle> 한 분야로만 쓸지 ... 아니면 버라이어티하게 쓸지 ...
[20:44] <Work^Seony> 음... 일단 미국이라면,
[20:44] <Work^Seony> 여러가지를 골고루 한건 별로 좋지않게 봐요
[20:44] <DarkCircle> 근데 참 생각코보니까
[20:44] <Work^Seony> 어느 하나를 깊이있게 아는걸 중요하게 생각하거든요
[20:44] <DarkCircle> 처음에 이력서를 워드로 무식하게 쓸까 하다가
[20:45] <DarkCircle> 이쁘지가 않아서 일러스트레이터에 손대게 됐군요.
[20:45] <Work^Seony> 저는 레이텍으로 작성했습니다 ㅋ
[20:45] <Work^Seony> 이쁘게 보이는거 하나도 중요하지 않아요
[20:45] <Work^Seony> 디자이너도 아니고, 컴쟁이 이력서라면 내용이 중요하죠 ㅋ
[20:45] <DarkCircle> 단락마다 포인트를 딱 주고 눈에 딱 띄게 보여야 하는데
[20:46] <Work^Seony> 인터넷에 돌아댕기는 레이텍 서식 보면 이력서용으로 만들어진거 많아요
[20:46] <Work^Seony> 저도 그런거 하나 줏어다 만들었거든
[20:46] <Work^Seony> dyt
[20:46] <Work^Seony> 요
[20:46] <DarkCircle> 근데 제가 지원하는 부서중에 하나는 ...
[20:46] <DarkCircle> 음 뭐랄까 ...
[20:46] <DarkCircle> 이게 단순 기술 포지션도 아니고 애매해요
[20:47] <DarkCircle> 하는 일 설명은 엔지니어랑 일한다
[20:47] <DarkCircle> 인데
[20:47] <DarkCircle> 영업도 하고?
[20:47] <DarkCircle> 뭐 이런식인듯 -_- 도데체 종잡을 수 없는 포지션.
[20:47] <DarkCircle> 주 업무는
[20:47] <Work^Seony> 기술 영업인가요?
[20:47] <DarkCircle> 기술 파트하고 "같이 일하는" 포지션이예요.
[20:48] <Work^Seony> 외국에는 많이 있는 포지션이죠...
[20:48] <DarkCircle> 이거 뭐 요구조건 중간에 보면
[20:48] <Work^Seony> 영업이나 마케팅 쪽에서도 엔지니어들이 있는데가 종종 있어요
[20:48] <DarkCircle> 주주하고 의사소통을 할 수 있어야 한다고 ...
[20:48] <DarkCircle> (?)
[20:48] <DarkCircle> 하여간 좀 요구조건이 뜬금포 절어요.
[20:49] <DarkCircle> 아얘 Software Engineer다 그러면 그냥 이거 했습니다 딱 하면 끝나는데
[20:49] <Work^Seony> 한국에 있는 외국계 회사에요?
[20:49] <DarkCircle> 엔지니어 포지션이 아니기 때문에
[20:49] <DarkCircle> 네
[20:50] <Work^Seony> 아 그러면 뭐... 이력서 보는 사람이 한국사람이겠꾼요..
[20:50] <DarkCircle> 뭐 ... 흠 누가 볼지는 잘 몰라요.
[20:50] <DarkCircle> 모집주체는 본사라고 되어 있지만
[20:50] <DarkCircle> 모집포지션은 한국에 있어서 ㅋㅋ
[20:51] <DarkCircle> 넣을까 뺄까 고민중인게 있는데 이거가지고 지금 한 4일은 붙들어매는듯 흐...
[20:52] <Work^Seony> 다 넣어요 ㅎㅎ
[20:52] <DarkCircle> 내가 사람을 뽑는다면
[20:52] <DarkCircle> 그 입장에서 본다면
[20:52] <DarkCircle> 꼬투리를 잡아서 리젝시킬거 같은 부분이거든요
[20:52] <Work^Seony> 그런가요?
[20:52] <Work^Seony> 그럼 빼야죠 ㅎㅎ
[20:52] <DarkCircle> 네 좀 애매해요
[23:13] <Work^Seony> 이거 조낸 웃기네요 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZK--VMqea8
[23:21] <razGon_MINILA> ㅋㅋㅋ
[23:21] <razGon_MINILA> 데이브라는 친구는 혼혈같네요.
[23:21] <razGon_MINILA> 한국어를 정말 잘하는데요? 영어 발음이 거의 코리안 잉글리쉬 같아요.
[23:21] <Work^Seony> 혼혈이라고 얘기는 안했지만, 말을 무지 잘하죠
[23:21] <Work^Seony> 요즘 울나라에 한국말 잘하는 외국인들이 무지 많다네요
[23:24] <razGon_MINILA> 그러긴 해요.
[23:24] <razGon_MINILA> 우리 아이유치원에 원어민 선생에게 영어로 이야기 하려고 머리속에 하드 돌아가는데.
[23:24] <razGon_MINILA> 안녕하세요? 정은이 아버지시죠?
[23:24] <razGon_MINILA> 이렇게 이야기하는데 당황.ㅋㅋ
[23:24] <Work^Seony> 헐 ㅎㅎㅎ
[23:25] <Work^Seony> 비정상회담도 그렇고, 요즘 한국말 잘하는 외국인들이 너무 많다보니까 한국말 버벅대는 외국인들 보면 예전보다 시선이 좋지않다는 글을 어디선가 본 거 같네요
[23:29] <razGon_MINILA> ㄱㄱㄱ
[23:29] <razGon_MINILA> 그건 좀...ㅋ
[23:29] <razGon_MINILA> 마치 미국인이 너 영어 못해?
[23:29] <razGon_MINILA> 이런 눈?ㅋ
[23:29] <Work^Seony> 한국 온지 오래된 사람들에 한해서요 ㅎ
[23:30] <razGon_MINILA> 그러긴하죠.
[23:41] <jason__> 어제 티브이 여행 소개 프로그램에서 하와이 자세히 나오는 것 보다 잠 들었는데... ㅎ
[23:42] <jason__> razGon_MINILA: 랜섬웨어 무섭죠? 내 친구 회사 컴 이상하다'고 해서 봐주다 보니, 말로만 듣던 램섬웨어. ㅠㅠ 답이 없더라고요
[23:46] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 하와이 자세히 나와봐야 관광지 아니에요?
[23:46] <jason__> 맞아요
[23:46] <Work^Seony> 사실, 어딜가든 관광지만 보고 그곳에 사는 사람들의 삶을 판단하는건 위험한 거래요
[23:47] <jason__> U Sure.
[23:49] <Work^Seony> 제가 확실히 말씀드릴 수 있는건, 제가 하와이 산지 10년 다 되가는데 해변에 거의 안갑니다
[23:51] <jason__> ^^
[23:52] <jason__> 50대로 보이는 이'가 매일 써핑을 다니는데, 나이가 80이랍디다. - 티브이 (걸어서 세상속으로)
[23:55] <razGon_MINILA> jason__, 정말 무섭습니다. ㅎ
[23:55] <razGon_MINILA> ㅎㅎㅎ
[23:55] <razGon_MINILA> 그건 특이한 사람이고. 하와이나 한국이나 사는 건 비슷한거 같아요.
[23:56] <Work^Seony> 글쵸
[23:56] <razGon_MINILA> 단지 차이라면 비싸게 가는 것과 싸게 가는것.
[23:56] <razGon_MINILA> 싸게 사는 것과 비싸게 사는것의 차이?
[23:56] <razGon_MINILA> 하와이의 임대료 듣고서 놀랏어요
[23:56] <razGon_MINILA> 어서오세요.
[23:56] <razGon_MINILA> 제주분이신가요?
[23:57] <razGon_MINILA> 생각보다 비싸구나 섬은.ㅋ
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-release
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[12:11] <teward> is Xenial going to be an LTS, or no?
[12:14] <cjwatson> teward: http://markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 makes that clear
[12:15] <teward> cjwatson: haven't given it a full read yet, thanks
[12:15] <cjwatson> search for LTS
[13:33] <DanChapman> seb128: hey! np. :-)
[13:33] <DanChapman> oops wrong channel
[16:44] <cyphermox> slangasek: please reject efivar (I will remove the Breaks for efibootmgr), and efibootmgr, from the vivid queue
[16:48] <cyphermox> ^ or someone else who can review the vivid queue for SRUs :)
[16:58] <slangasek> cyphermox: done
[16:58] <cyphermox> thanks.
[17:26] <stgraber> micahg, Laney: ^ this lxc backports upload is a one-line packaging change implementing mvo's suggestion from bug 1512219
[17:26] <ubot2> bug 1512219 in apt "apt appears to be confused when installing a backport that version depends on other backports" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512219
[17:26] <stgraber> won't fix the bug but will get us one step closer
[17:27] <stgraber> as with the other changes done to the backported version of lxc, this change will not be uploaded to the dev release as lxc can technically work fine with an older version of the dependency
[17:28] <stgraber> it's only needed to keep everything bundled together properly in backports
[17:28] <Laney> stgraber: okay, I believe you (since I have left this to micahg)
[17:28] * Laney accepts
[17:29] <Laney> once we get a diff, anyway
[17:39] <stgraber> Laney: thanks
[17:40] <Laney> np!
[17:40] <Laney> sorry you hit an apt bug
[18:05] <stgraber> FYI, I intend to rush a lxc SRU to wily as soon as I've confirmed that my workaround for bug 1512749 works
[18:05] <ubot2> bug 1512749 in network-manager "lxcbr0 dissappears on Ubuntu 15.10" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512749
[18:05] <stgraber> as this is basically breaking all new LXC installations and some upgrades too
[18:06] <stgraber> I uploaded the workaronud to xenial, waiting for it to go through autopkgtest now and will then test the resulting binaries on a clean desktop and cloud install to confirm that the fix 1) works 2) doesn't somehow regress on non-NM systems
[18:07] <stgraber> provided that it looks good, I'll upload the exact same thing as an SRU to wily and intend to wave the wait period once we have confirmation that the fix works for people currently affected and doesn't cause regression on non-NM systems
[18:08] <stgraber> robru: FYI, that's most likely what you ran into yesterday. We received two other reports of that issue this morning and managed to track it down to a NetworkManager bug.
[18:09] <robru> stgraber: oh wow, excellent. yeah I'm on xenial, I can help test (after lunch) if you need
[18:10] <stgraber> new lxc should be in the release pocket within an hour or so, would be nice if you could confirm that upgrading doesn't break things
[18:14] <robru> stgraber: ok will do
[19:31] <Ian_Corne> Hello, I'mm looking for version 1.5.11 of ibus, any idea how to get this in ubuntu? :)
[19:31] <Ian_Corne> https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-78860 it's to fix this issue :)
[20:08] <cyphermox> Ian_Corne: people eventually take the new upstream versions for packages, but things usually first go through Debian rather than directly in Ubuntu. It's up to individual maintainers to do this when they have the time
[20:08] <cyphermox> Ian_Corne: you could check if there is a bug to request the new vesion in Debian
[20:38] <teward> infinity: you wouldn't happen to be around would you?
[20:46] <cyphermox> teward: many people are at a sprint this week, multiple meetings plus UOS, would be best if you just ask your question I think :)
[21:21] <teward> cyphermox: well, tryin to reach infinity because they handled the blacklist/remove req. for electrum. and it looks like someone went on a triaging spree and 'fix released' a related SRU to 'dummy' the existing package in Trusty, etc. because it's incompatible with later versions.
[21:21] <teward> trying to hunt down whether it was actually handled or not, and whether I need to go smack someone doing bad triaging or not
[21:21] <teward> AFAICT there was no upload on the thing to mark it fix released
[21:21] <teward> and the person who made the change isn't SRU or Release or even developer
[21:21] <teward> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/electrum/+bug/1499094 is the relevant bug, and it's sat a while
[21:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1499094 in electrum "Please replace electrum with 'dummy' package in the repositories for Trusty, Vivid" [Medium,Fix released]
[21:21] <teward> (but no reject or accept_
[21:51] <cyphermox> no, it's just someone playing with the bugs
[21:52] <cyphermox> but the change isn't exactly incorrect either
[21:52] <cyphermox> (the package isn't in wily or xenial)
[22:05] <teward> cyphermox: you're actually two steps behind
[22:05] <teward> cyphermox: it's similar to the bitcoin retroactive "beat it into dummy state" changes
[22:05] <teward> there's a related blacklist removal bug that infinity handled on the same premise as the bitcoin package
[22:05] <teward> hence why i'm hunting down infinity
[22:05] <teward> because they're the one that set a retroactive 'dummy' state on the package was a potential option
[22:05] <teward> cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/electrum/+bug/1481033 <-- related
[22:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1481033 in electrum "Please remove electrum from the archive" [Medium,Triaged]
[22:05] <teward> that's why it's not in Wily or Xenial
[22:05] <teward> autosync blacklist, removal during Wily
[22:05] <teward> cyphermox: should I reset the bug back to "New" and wait for SRU team?
[22:06] <cyphermox> no point, the fact that it's nominated for the two releases you want to deal with seems fine to me
[22:06] <cyphermox> of course, infinity or somebody else might well say otherwise ;P
[22:07] <mdeslaur> need to be approved for the two series before it will appear in the sponsors queue
[22:07] * mdeslaur approves
[22:07] <cyphermox> yes
[22:13] <teward> cyphermox: :P
[22:13] <teward> mdeslaur: thank you for approving :)
[22:13] * teward will wait :)
[23:48] <darkxst> cjwatson, could this be something related to the builders? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk/2.10.3+dfsg1-1/+build/8195973/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-arm64.webkit2gtk_2.10.3%2Bdfsg1-1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[23:49] <darkxst> it built fine in debian
[23:51] <cjwatson> darkxst: unless doko says otherwise, that seems more likely to come down to toolchain differences. have you compared binutils versions for example?
[23:52] <doko> cjwatson, darkxst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1511542 nor work around yet
[23:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1511542 in unity "[2.26 Regression] binutils assertion fail ../../bfd/elfnn-aarch64.c:4631" [High,In progress]
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-motu
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[18:28] <mgolisch> after running dpkg-buildpackage it creates a packagename dir in project/debian are any files of that worth checking into version controll? like it now has debian/control and debian/packagename/DEBIAN/control
[18:29] <mgolisch> currently i just change debian/* files to adapt to whatever changed: new files to include in the package and so on
[18:30] <mgolisch> and i just build packages from a a new git checkout
[18:31] <mgolisch> probably not the right channel to ask but i figured theres lots of package maintainers here
[19:23] <mitya57> mgolisch, no, these files are autogenerated and shouldn't be added to version control. Run ./debian/rules clean before committing anything.
[19:30] <mgolisch> mitya57: thx thats what i though
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2015-11-03-#lubuntu
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[13:35] <ManicPanic> Why does Puppy Linux use 150 MB's when idle and Lubuntu use 400 MB when idle. Is Lubuntu not supposed to be a very light version of Ubuntu ?
[14:33] <dzho> you could run top on each and see what's using memory
[14:34] <dzho> d'oh
[14:48] <leszek> a troll
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.377246
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-pl
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[00:05] <bartoszo> sigma, próbowal ktoś odpalić grafike via chrome9 na ubuntu? cholera jedna wstaje tylko w konsoli ;/
[07:24] <gjm> cierpliwy, skubaniec
[07:42] <Dread> ano
[16:50] <scet> witam, zmieniłem dysk w laptopie i chciałem przywrócić kopie katalogu domowego jednak po ok minucie przywracania ubuntu się wylogowuje i przywracanie przestaje działać. Spotkał się ktoś może z czymś takim?
[16:50] <scet> kopia jest ok bo na innym lapku idzie bez problemu
[16:51] <d42> jesteś pewien, że nie blokuje ci sie ekran? :v
[16:51] <scet> tak :)
[16:51] <scet> kilka razy to robiłem
[16:51] <scet> nawet system nagrywałem ponownie
[16:53] <javor> scet, w jakim formacie masz ta kopie? nie wystarczy skopiowac plików?
[16:54] <scet> kopie robiłem przy użyciu narzędzie standardowego w ustawieniach
[16:55] <javor> scet, moze jakiś bug i wywala system. moze skopiuj sobie z laptopa skoro tam działa?
[16:55] <scet> teraz przywracam do wybranego katalogu i idzie
[16:56] <scet> przywróć do pierwotnych położeń nie szło
[16:56] <jacekn> scet: byc moze przywracanie psuje jakis plik ktory jest uzywany przez system
[16:56] <scet> może być
[16:56] <scet> ok jak wypakuje do innego folderu potem przeniosę do głównego to chyba będzie to samo?
[16:56] <jacekn> scet: np .Xauthority
[16:56] <scet> czy on robi coś jeszcze?
[16:57] <jacekn> scet: najlepiej przekopiiuj z single user mode wtedy powinno byc OK
[16:57] <scet> z single user mode ?
[16:57] <scet> :)
[16:57] <jacekn> albo przynajmniej sie wyloguj i zaloguj jako inny uzytkownik i potem przywroc z tego drugiego usera uzywajac sudo
[16:59] <javor> scet, tylko pametaj zeby zmienic wlasciciela na koncu na wlasciwego :D
[16:59] <scet> postaram się :)
[17:00] <javor> scet, nalepiej podaj nam haslo do konta root to zrobimy Tobie i bedziesz mial pewnosc ze bedzie dobrze i bezpiecznie skopiowane
[17:01] <scet> ooo
[17:01] <scet> to jest coś
[17:02] <scet> :)
[17:02] <javor> :D
[17:07] <gjm> heeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeee
[17:53] <qermit> bu
[19:32] <didek> Yo, pytanie - gdzie teraz ubunciaki przetrzymuja cos jak /etc/fstab dla dynamicznie montowanych dyskow? Kurde w fstabie nic nie ma a mi montuje jako root owner...
[19:33] <TheNumb> dynamicznie montowanych?
[19:33] <TheNumb> w sensie, jak podepniesz pendrive?
[19:33] <TheNumb> tym się zajmuje udisks
[19:34] <didek> Tzn to akurat jest na SATA dysk drugi po SSD. Byl tam NTFS, formatnalem teraz na ext3, przez co pojawil sie problem z tym, ze montuje pod roota.
[19:34] <didek> Ja go nie montuje przy starcie
[19:35] <TheNumb> pewnie systemd go montuje
[19:35] <drathir> chown na lokalizacje?
[19:35] <didek> No wlasnie tak mi sie wydawalo ze udisks, natomiast ja go nawet nie mam jako binarki zainstalowanego... Chyba, ze cos zastapilo to w miedzyczasie tak zwanym
[19:35] <TheNumb> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.generator.html
[19:35] <didek> chown pomaga
[19:35] <didek> Ale jednorazowo, to nie jest moje rozwiazanie
[19:35] <TheNumb> a która wersja noobuntu?
[19:36] <drathir> didek: jak to ext to chhown -r user:user powinno prawa trzymac...
[19:36] <didek> Dobra, zrobilem po prostu na stale przypisanie
[19:36] <drathir> user dostosowac oczywiscie...
[19:36] <didek> I jest tez ok
[19:36] <didek> Spox, takie rzeczy to ja znam jeszcze w miare ;) Az tak dawno z OSow nie wypadlem
[19:36] <Voldenet> man systemd.mount
[19:37] <didek> Dobra, zrobilem na stale i tak tez jest elegancko, dziekowa :)
[19:37] <drathir> didek: dodaj najlepiej do fstaba w takiej formie jakiej sobie zyczysz...
[19:37] <drathir> systemd to zuo ;p
[19:37] <Voldenet> i systemd.automount
[19:38] <didek> Wlasnie dodalem do fstab, pomyslalem ze sobie w /home mi sie przyda taki dyszczek bardziej niz w jakims tam /mnt
[19:38] <didek> Kurde, w 6.06 bylo to latwiesze jakos :D
[19:38] <drathir> didek: jak dasz po uuid to niewazne ze dynamicznie podpinany i tak znajdzie nawet jak innne usb sie wepnie...
[19:39] <Voldenet> drathir: jak to jest ext3 to daj mu labela
[19:39] <didek> Bez uuid to nie podchodze :)
[19:39] <Voldenet> didek*
[19:39] <Voldenet> z labelem jest znacznie prościej
[19:40] <drathir> zebu mogl kazdy user montowac i odmontowac to w opcjach w fstabie user chyba powinno byc jak dobrze pamietam...
[19:40] <drathir> thaunar powinien tym zaradzac ladni...
[19:40] <drathir> Voldenet: label tez moze byc, byleby unikalny byl ;p
[19:40] <didek> W ogole glupi bylem, repozytorium z kodem przenioslem sobie na NTFS, a tam nie ma uprawnien i git krzyczy ze kazdy mode sie pozmienial, myslalem ze padne ze zlosci :)
[19:42] <drathir> didek: a i jak dasz na /mnt/jakistamfolder chown na usra i mount w fstabie skierujesz na to o ile dobrze pamietam user powinien moc tym zarzadzac...
[19:43] <drathir> didek: jak masz .git to powinno sobie poradzic z przywroceniem do domyslnych, a ntfs ogolnie mulic lubi...
[19:44] <Voldenet> drathir: dobrym pomysłem jest wzięcie numeru seryjnego jako label :>
[19:44] <Voldenet> bardzo jednoznaczne
[19:45] <drathir> wth O.o
[19:45] <drathir> twitterowi odbilo ?
[19:45] <drathir> gwiazdki na serduszka pozamienial ;/
[19:47] <d42> ♥♥
[19:49] <gjm> ♥♥
[19:50] <TheNumb> drathir: homopropaganda
[19:56] <drathir> TheNumb: zrozumialbym na walentynki czy cos, ale bez przesady jakjuz chcieli dac ze lubie to oprocz gwiazdki a nie...
[20:00] <TheNumb> Przecież łapki w górę nie dadzą
[20:11] <drathir> kocie uszka w gore juz o niebo lepsze by byly... i jeszcze ta animacja ;/
[20:14] <firemark> serduszka dva
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-kernel
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[15:34] <ogra_> rtg, do you happen to be around ? seems there is something broken with triggers in the linux-raspi2 package ... https://launchpadlibrarian.net/224109673/buildlog_ubuntu_xenial_armhf_ubuntu-core-system-image_BUILDING.txt.gz (i thought it was 1:1 based on -generric packaging which would enforce the trigger execution ?)
[15:38] <rtg> ogra_, I don't think we've even upload raspi2 to xenial yet. I'll sic Paolo on it.
[15:38] <ogra_> rtg, it was synced over from wily
[15:49] <ogra_> ppisati, yo
[15:49] <apw> ogra_, which triggers ?
[15:49] <ogra_> apw, postinst initrd creation doesnt run
[15:49] <ogra_> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/224109673/buildlog_ubuntu_xenial_armhf_ubuntu-core-system-image_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:49] <ogra_> (see the bottom)
[15:50] <ogra_> Setting up linux-image-4.2.0-1013-raspi2 (4.2.0-1013.19) ...
[15:50] <ogra_> Running depmod.
[15:50] <ogra_> update-initramfs: deferring update (hook will be called later)
[15:50] <ogra_> cp: cannot stat '/boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-1013-raspi2': No such file or directory
[15:50] <ogra_> Failed to copy /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-1013-raspi2 to /boot/initrd.img at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-4.2.0-1013-raspi2.postinst line 745.
[15:50] <ogra_> dpkg: error processing package linux-image-4.2.0-1013-raspi2 (--configure):
[15:51] <ogra_> it seems to completely skip /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools for some reason
[15:51] <ogra_> (if you scroll up in the log you see the same thing work for -generic)
[15:51] <apw> ogra_, it decided this was a delayable initramfs build
[15:51] <apw> update-initramfs: deferring update (hook will be called later)
[15:52] <ogra_> apw, -generic prints the same and then executes /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools
[15:52] <ogra_> before trying to copy the initrd
[15:52] <ogra_> update-initramfs: deferring update (hook will be called later)
[15:52] <ogra_> Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
[15:52] <ogra_> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal 4.2.0-16-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-16-generic
[15:52] <ogra_> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools 4.2.0-16-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-16-generic
[15:52] <ogra_> thats a bit further up in the log
[15:53] <apw> ogra_, who is doing that copy ?
[15:53] <ogra_> so it works for generic but not for raspi2 in the same chroot
[15:53] <apw> ogra_, that is not a "standard" behavour
[15:53] <ogra_> apw, your postinst
[15:53] <ogra_> in line 745 obviously :)
[15:53] <apw> we would not normally copy it
[15:53] <ogra_> well, i see the code here
[15:54] <apw> we don't make the name "/boot/initrd.img" on a default install
[15:54] <ogra_> Failed to copy /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-1013-raspi2 to /boot/initrd.img at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-4.2.0-1013-raspi2.postinst line 745.
[15:54] <ogra_> well, thats definitely your postinst
[15:55] <apw> ogra_, indeed, i am not disputing it, i am saying we don't normally copy it, we normally symlink it, which isn't order dependant
[15:57] <ogra_> right, looks like it uses a wrong code path or some such
[15:58] <apw> ogra_, so the / and /boot we are building here, what are they, what filesystem type etc
[15:59] <apw> ogra_, what is in your /etc/kernel.conf in that filesystem
[16:03] <ogra_> apw, no idea, it is the rootfs of an image build ... the config should be fine and -generic installs fine on the same setup (as i said, a few lines up -generic gets installed in the log)
[16:04] <apw> ogra_, can we find out ?
[16:08] <ogra_> apw, thats quite some work and hackery to livecd-rootfs, but yes, i can .,.. just takes long
[16:09] <apw> ogra_, hmm
[16:14] <apw> ogra_, so the -generic which works, was that a fresh install or an upgrade, was there a generic kernle in whatever you started from ?
[16:15] <ogra_> apw, this is a livefs build, it starts from a basic debootstrap
[16:15] <ogra_> installs the ubuntu-core task and then installs kernel packages
[16:16] <apw> ogasawara, all starting with an empty directory i assume
[16:16] <apw> ogra_, ^^
[16:17] <apw> ogra_, and i assume this is the "same" as wily was and it works there ?
[16:17] <ogra_> apw, well, except that i additionaly try to install the raspi package now to create a device tarball from that later
[16:17] <ogra_> it works, yes
[16:23] <apw> ogra_, ok so the code is trying to use "cp" because when we try and buid the symlink called /initrd.img and that is already present and is already not a symlink
[16:23] <apw> ogra_, what that file is is hard to understand given you have no kernel installed when you do that, right ?
[16:24] <ogra_> apw, so i apt-get purge linux-image-*-generic ... then i install linux-raspi2
[16:24] <ogra_> technically it should remove all symlinks
[16:24] <ogra_> and re-create them
[16:25] <apw> update-initramfs: diverted by livecd-rootfs (will be called later)
[16:25] <apw> ogra_, what is that all about
[16:26] <ogra_> thats normal, livecd-toofs does that ... but wont matter for our issue
[16:28] <ogra_> (that diversion is gone at the point where i install the kernel package)
[16:36] <apw> ogra_, in the generic it appears to be still active when the kernel was installed
[16:36] <apw> ogra_, yeah it was still in place when the delayed trigger in the generic case was called
[16:38] <ogra_> well, /etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools generates the initrd just fine for -generic ... with or without the diversion
[16:39] <apw> ogra_, but what does it divert it to
[16:40] <ogra_> it diverts the update-initramfs executable to /bin/true
[16:40] <ogra_> but thats moot
[16:40] <ogra_> as i said, -generic creates the initrd at package install time
[16:40] <apw> why it is moot, we are doing the initramfs handling completely different in the two cases
[16:40] <ogra_> (and it woorks fine in all image builds)
[16:41] <apw> and the working one has the divert and then makes the initrd itself (i assume)
[16:41] <apw> whereas the one which does not, doesn't work
[16:41] <ogra_> the working one execs /etc/kernel/postinst.d ... the non working one ignores that comepletely
[16:41] <ogra_> totally independent of that diversion
[16:47] <apw> ogra_, the non working one fails before it calls those hooks because it found a /initrd.img which was not a symlink, and so it tried to cp, and failed ... so processing is aborted before we call out to the hooks
[16:48] <ogra_> apw, hmm, so me simply doing an "rm /initrd.img" before installing the package would help ?
[16:48] <ogra_> thats trivially added to the code :)
[16:48] <apw> ogra_, maybe, i would love you to do an ls -l /initrd.img as well so we can find out what it is
[16:49] <apw> ogra_, why are we installing -generic and then ripping it anyhow, why arn't we just seeding he right packages i wonder ?
[16:49] <ogra_> (sadly the armhf image builder doesnt like me now and wants to delay the image build by 35min :/ )
[16:50] <ogra_> apw, i plan to do all device tarball generation from the code i'm currently adding ... to not break beaglebone snappy i simpply left the old code in place for now ... later this will be a loop over the different kernels
[16:51] <ogra_> the current snappy installs the kernel in the rootfs, then does a ton of hackery to create a device tarball from it and remove all traces of the kernel from the rootfs again ... i'm currently trying to move all this to a point after the rootfs tarball was created (so abusing the still existing builkd chroot) to get rid of all that awful hackery
[17:22] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: hi
[18:04] <ogra_> apw, hmm ... could it be that the postinst parses /etc/kernel-img.conf first ?
[18:05] <ogra_> (we dont configure that file on snappy rootfses ... so there is no "do_initrd = yes" in it)
[18:06] <ogra_> (though this wouldnt explain the discrepancy to -generic )
[18:40] <ogra_> apw, ok, test build has run, there is definitely no /initrd.img in the rootfs
[22:22] <apw> ogra_, and it worked or failed ?
[22:23] <ogra_> apw, well, forget about it ... what i'm trying to do here is to re-use the build chroot from the snappy rootfs ... it didnt strike me until 1h ago that we remove half of apt and dpkg .... which means ... well .... you know ... *blush*
[22:25] <apw> ogra_, ahh heh, oops
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-tr
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[13:47] <Kartagis> geldim
[13:47] <Kartagis> mac os kurmaya çalıştım, usb'yi tanımadı
[17:02] <huseyin> selam
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.400134
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu+1
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[08:11] <Fudge> hi
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:53] <Ian_Corne> Hello
[19:26] <Ian_Corne> How do new package versions come into play in the new ubuntu?
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> Ian_Corne: sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:27] <Ian_Corne> No, I'm wondering when they're selected/uploaded for 16.04 :)
[19:27] <Ian_Corne> I'm looking for ibus 1.5.11
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> Ian_Corne: things are in early stadium right now
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> cant search xenial packages with bot yet
[19:29] <Ian_Corne> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus
[19:29] <Ian_Corne> I know it's not in yet
[19:30] <Ian_Corne> But I'm wondering who selects these new versions
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> Ian_Corne: think you can follow in #ubuntu-release
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> Ian_Corne: maybe ask there when it could come?
[19:31] <Ian_Corne> ok :)
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> !info ibus
[19:38] <Pici> !info ibus
[19:38] <Pici> lotuspsychje: ^^
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> Pici: did you updated database?
[19:39] <Pici> yep
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> niceeee
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> tnx Pici :p
[19:39] <Pici> the bot updates its indexes every night, so we should be good for a bit
[19:39] <Pici> np
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> Pici: did you hear more about daily builds url yet?
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> did it got fixxed yet?
[19:39] <Pici> er, no I['ll take care of that
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> great :p
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> Pici: recently updated xenial first packages, running nice n stable so far :p
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> nice nice :p
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> great : )
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> let the testing and bug hunting begin, tnx Pici
[19:43] <Pici> np :)
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> Ian_Corne: got your answer from release?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> Pici: this only works in this channel for now? other channels give me xenial is not a valid distribution
[20:42] <Pici> lotuspsychje: err, it should work elsewhere
[20:42] <Pici> lotuspsychje: oh, wait which bot are you asking?
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> Pici: ubot5 in #ubuntu-discuss
[20:43] <Pici> let me poke that one
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> Pici: /query with ubuntu working fine
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> ubottu
[20:46] <Pici> yeah, the other bots need to reload the plugin after the package data gets updated... so I'll need to reboot the bot because I didn't explicitly give myself admin rights on it... will take a moment.
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx for looking mate
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> Pici: and idle in discuss aswell as you like, we have gathered most active volunteers there :p
[20:47] <Pici> k
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2015-11-03-#maas
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[13:54] <Javi123> Hello there. glad to join all of you.
[13:55] <Javi123> do you know if it is possible to install Maas in LXD container?
[14:10] <gor> hello
[14:12] <gor> someone has a tutorial on how to install maas to virtualbox?
[15:16] <mup> Bug #1512742 opened: Mouseover an item in Storage/Available Disks and Partitions causes filesystem to disappear <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512742>
[15:25] <mup> Bug #1512742 changed: Mouseover an item in Storage/Available Disks and Partitions causes filesystem to disappear <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512742>
[15:37] <mup> Bug #1512742 opened: Mouseover an item in Storage/Available Disks and Partitions causes filesystem to disappear <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512742>
[15:49] <mup> Bug #1512742 changed: Mouseover an item in Storage/Available Disks and Partitions causes filesystem to disappear <ui> <MAAS:Invalid by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512742>
[15:52] <test-user> So a question if I enlist a chassis (Virsh/libvirt) to maas, and it has the proer creds, can it then spin up kvmguests on said "Chassis" or do I have to always create my KVM guests manually, and set them to pxe mode to but auto discovered and then enlisted?
[16:04] <SpeeR> I'm setting up a 10 blade maas setup. I hate to burn a blade for the cluster, what are the thoughts in running the cluster in qemu, or on vcenter along side the cluster?
[16:10] <mup> Bug #1512742 opened: Mouseover an item in Storage/Available Disks and Partitions causes filesystem to disappear <ui> <MAAS:Invalid by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512742>
[16:10] <mup> Bug #1512765 opened: inconsistent edit mechanisms and various UI issues on Node details page <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512765>
[18:09] <pmatulis> in general i feel that networking stuff in the 'Clusters' tab can be consolidated with stuff under the 'Networks' tab. it's quite confusing
[18:09] <pmatulis> (MAAS GUI)
[18:10] <mup> Bug #1512820 opened: deployment count on images tab is double for 14.04 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512820>
[18:10] <mup> Bug #1512825 opened: Deployment of Wily from Release Stream fails because of Cloud-Init <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512825>
[18:40] <mup> Bug #1512832 opened: maasserver.api.tests.test_fannetworks.TestFanNetworksAPI.test_read fails randomly <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512832>
[18:44] <mup> Bug #1512832 changed: maasserver.api.tests.test_fannetworks.TestFanNetworksAPI.test_read fails randomly <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512832>
[18:47] <mup> Bug #1512832 opened: maasserver.api.tests.test_fannetworks.TestFanNetworksAPI.test_read fails randomly <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512832>
[20:11] <mup> Bug #1512857 opened: RAID 5 deployment on 3 disks fails <storage> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512857>
[20:14] <mup> Bug #1512857 changed: RAID 5 deployment on 3 disks fails <storage> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512857>
[20:17] <mup> Bug #1512857 opened: RAID 5 deployment on 3 disks fails <storage> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512857>
[20:47] <marka13> got a question. If you previously deployed a node. Delete it and re-add it. How to you remove it from DNS and the static IP pool?
[20:47] <marka13> It doesn't seem like it wants to be re-commissioned. During commissioning it boots and says operating system not found.
[21:56] <mup> Bug #1512882 opened: Unable to enlist machines with 2 nics connected <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512882>
[22:11] <mup> Bug #1512885 opened: Unable to complete juju env bootstrap, connection time out. <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512885>
[22:14] <mup> Bug #1512885 changed: Unable to complete juju env bootstrap, connection time out. <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512885>
[22:17] <mup> Bug #1512885 opened: Unable to complete juju env bootstrap, connection time out. <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512885>
[22:20] <mup> Bug #1512885 changed: Unable to complete juju env bootstrap, connection time out. <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512885>
[22:23] <mup> Bug #1512885 opened: Unable to complete juju env bootstrap, connection time out. <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512885>
[22:50] <mup> Bug #1512885 changed: Unable to complete juju env bootstrap, connection time out. <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512885>
[22:50] <mup> Bug #1512890 opened: Way too complicated workflow to remove default LVM partition scheme on 1.9 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512890>
[22:50] <mup> Bug #1512891 opened: MAAS storage partitioning does not allow formatting as Swap <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512891>
[22:53] <mup> Bug #1512890 changed: Way too complicated workflow to remove default LVM partition scheme on 1.9 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512890>
[22:53] <mup> Bug #1512891 changed: MAAS storage partitioning does not allow formatting as Swap <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512891>
[22:53] <mup> Bug #1512885 opened: Unable to complete juju env bootstrap, connection time out. <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512885>
[22:56] <mup> Bug #1512885 changed: Unable to complete juju env bootstrap, connection time out. <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512885>
[22:56] <mup> Bug #1512890 opened: Way too complicated workflow to remove default LVM partition scheme on 1.9 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512890>
[22:56] <mup> Bug #1512891 opened: MAAS storage partitioning does not allow formatting as Swap <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512891>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.411215
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"SpeeR",
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-youth
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[20:02] <waldo> Waldo has encountered a bug in the Ubunutu!
[20:02] <waldo> Waldo is using Ubunutu LTS 12.04!
[20:02] <waldo> Please fix bug, Ubuntu Youth!
[20:03] <waldo> Waldo is counting on you@
[20:31] <jpds> waldo: Best to file a bug report
[20:32] <waldo> Waldo has waited long for response!
[20:33] <waldo> Waldo has become enraged by this inhospitality!
[20:33] <waldo> Waldo... demands blood!
[20:33] * waldo devours a flock of sheep while screaming curses against God and reality itself.
[20:41] <jpds> Clearly thinks a lot about themselves
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.412732
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-unity
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[07:57] <guest123124> hi, is rc proposed building unity from trunk?
[11:52] <dandrader> mzanetti, I think you're the best person to review this: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/mouseEdgePush/+merge/276306
[11:52] <dandrader> mzanetti, as it touches Launcher and DesktopStage code
[11:55] <mzanetti> ack
[11:55] <mzanetti> dandrader, will check it out
[11:55] <mzanetti> ta
[12:17] <dandrader> greyback_, ping
[13:16] <mterry> @unity let me save you folks future pain with this dearly bought lesson: if you are using 'expr' to do shell math in a 'set -e' shell, expr will return non-zero if the equation answer is zero, causing your shell to abort at very unexpected times
[13:17] <mzanetti> haha
[13:17] <mzanetti> that sounds like you just had a fun debugging session
[13:18] <mterry> mzanetti, it took me forever -- I was debugging the flash animation script, so it takes a bit of overhead per debug session. And I just couldn't figure out why we were crashing in this function!
[13:18] <mterry> Why oh why would you return an error case for zero! expr does division and modulo math! They return zero all the time
[16:58] <mterry> mzanetti, good session :)
[16:59] <mterry> josharenson, I got to talk up hopes of unity8-greeter in show and tell session. But didn't make any promises. :)
[17:00] <josharenson> mterry: haha I saw
[17:00] <mterry> oh hah :)
[17:00] <mterry> It was the sexiest thing I knew was coming down the pipe
[17:01] <josharenson> mterry: haha wow :-p
[17:01] <mterry> josharenson, that is probably more a statement on me than the pipe :)
[17:02] <josharenson> hahah
[17:36] <seb128> Saviq, unsure who to ask but do you think you could get somebody to review https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gsettings-qt/lp1503693/+merge/276190 ?
[17:52] <Saviq> seb128, we'll have a look
[17:52] <seb128> Saviq, thanks
[20:27] <mterry> mzanetti, the xenial autopilot is broken right now?
[20:28] <mzanetti> mterry, need to look into it, but yes, it's known to fail atm
[20:28] <mterry> cool
[20:42] <ahoneybun> anymore Unity 8 Next images?
[20:42] <ahoneybun> need it to show off at a CON please :
[20:42] <ahoneybun> )
[22:02] <prasad_> Hi
[22:04] <prasad_> My name is Prasad, and a software developer(C++). And willing to contribute to fix unity bugs
[22:07] <josharenson> prasad_: Hi, our bug tracker is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8
[22:08] <josharenson> prasad_: we used to have a list of bugs that were good to fix as your first contribution, but I don't think its maintained anymore
[22:09] <prasad_> Ok, I've eye on Unity7 bug#1154364
[22:11] <prasad_> Or is this channel for unity8 issues only >
[22:17] <josharenson> prasad_: either version is fine
[22:20] <prasad_> How do I get started Will Cooke's blog (http://www.whizzy.org/2015/09/big-bug-bonanza-16-04-lts/) talks about Trello board
[22:22] <prasad_> do I need to do formal request to look in to particular bug?
[22:27] <josharenson> prasad_: It might be a good idea to consult w/ will cooke just to be sure you arent duplicating an ongoing effort
[22:27] <josharenson> prasad_: but it seems that nobody is even assigned to the bug you mentioned... if you were to propose a patch, someone would review it
[22:30] <prasad_> sure, I'll try to do that. Is just communication is sufficient to get message acrossm or do I need to use mailing list, too ? You can see I'm using IRC for first time, :)
[22:30] <prasad_> communication here I mean.
[22:35] <josharenson> prasad_: I don't know what time zone you are in, but this channel is most active during UTC+0 work hours
[22:35] <josharenson> prasad_: so communication _here_ should be sufficient.. I'm just not necessarily the right person
[22:36] <josharenson> prasad_: I'd wait until more people are online to ask more questions, but in the meantime, get to know that bug, reproduce it, and try to make some code changes on a local branch etc..
[22:36] <josharenson> prasad_: if you do come up w/ a fix, like I said, someone will review it and provide feedback
[22:37] <prasad_> thanks josharenson
[22:37] <josharenson> prasad_: np, questions/contributions always welcome :-)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.430171
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"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
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2015-11-03-#ubuntustudio
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[19:58] <do2kd> Hallo . i look for help. i try to filter noise out of Shortwave transmissions in real time. Ubuntu studio is installed. all works fine i can say. Jackrack is one of my friends but i have not found the right filters yet. Ideas? Questions, Infos you need?
[20:19] <zequence> do2kd: If you can determine the approximate frequencies by ear, the usual eq and filter tools should suffice. Not sure if there are any all-in-one plugins for that purpose
[20:21] <zequence> I would assume you won't need anything below 100-200hz(depending on voice), and nothing above 7000-10000Hz(also, depending on voice)
[20:22] <zequence> If there's a clear hum, like a note, then you will need to use a steep notch with an eq to get that note out. With shortwave radio I don't know about transients. With transients you would need to take care a few as well
[20:23] <zequence> If the note is say 100Hz, the natural transients would be 100, 200, 300, 400, and so forth.
[22:27] <do2kd> zequence: the transmission has only a bandwidth of 3khz . . so the frequencies max 3000hz. the notch filter i know. my biggest problem are the "noise" from atmospherics / interferences. could you understand it . sorry my mother language is german and english learned 30 years ago :) Thanks or your help
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.433172
| 2015-11-03T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-tw
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[09:08] <calvin> hi
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.433837
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[10:18] <rmg51> Morning
[13:17] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[13:18] <jackson> o/
[15:00] <argv_turk> sorry playing with irssi
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.434572
| 2015-11-03T00:00:00 |
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"argv_turk",
"jackson",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-news
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[03:14] <pleia2> PaulW2U: thanks for the editorial review
[03:15] <pleia2> looks like Jim Connett was able to go through it too, publishing now
[03:15] <tsimonq2> pleia2: need any more help or is it already said and done?
[03:16] <pleia2> tsimonq2: all done, thanks for your help :)
[03:16] <tsimonq2> it was minor, not enough to be recognized :P
[03:17] <pleia2> every summary is one less that the rest of us has to write <3
[03:24] <tsimonq2> well ok I guess this time :P
[03:24] <tsimonq2> but catch me on a good day!
[03:24] <tsimonq2> my name will be on TOP :P
[03:25] <tsimonq2> (and it is funny because it doesn't go by amount of contributions to the newsletter, which makes it hilarious because I will top that :P)
[03:25] <pleia2> there's no way we can tell who wrote what, aside from core members of the team it's all anonymous
[03:26] <pleia2> and even with the long time members, it's not simple to see who did what on the google doc, the history feature is meh
[03:27] <tsimonq2> which makes it even funnier XD
[03:27] <tsimonq2> ima TOP THAT XD
[03:27] <tsimonq2> idk lol
[03:28] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[03:45] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 440 for the week October 26 - November 1, 2015 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue440
[13:10] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I inquired about being a summary writer
[13:13] <tsimonq2> pleia2: and I don't know where I would put this link in the document, can you help? http://lxqt.org/release/2015/11/02/release-0-10-0/
[16:55] <pleia2> tsimonq2: if you think it's important to readers of UWN, you could put it as a bullet-point listed article under "Other Articles of Interest" since it's not specifically Ubuntu news (more generic linux news)
[22:01] <tsimonq2> pleia2: ok :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.441379
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"pleia2",
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-gr
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[08:30] <themhz> καλημέρα
[08:32] <kerato> hi
[09:27] <kilon> ρε παλικάρια ξέρεται πως να κάνω την ορθογραφία να δουλέψει στο libreoofice
[09:28] <kilon> 2 ελληνικά λεξικά του έβαλα και δεν κάνει τίποτα
[09:29] <kilon> δουλεύει μια χαρά στο macos με τα ίδια λεξικά αλλά στο ubuntu τζίφος
[10:13] <themhz> http://linuxmint.gr/index.php?topic=2208.0
[10:13] <themhz> kilon
[10:16] <themhz> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=libre+office+%CE%B5%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%B7%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82+%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%B8%CE%BF%CE%B3%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%82
[10:16] <kilon> themhz: thanks
[10:16] <kilon> i am reading as we speak
[10:17] <kilon> themhz: kalo to asteio alla den tha imoyn edo an den to eixa psaksei
[10:17] <kilon> pos nomizeis oti evala toys 2 orthografoys
[10:18] <kilon> katevikan apo ton oyrano ?
[10:19] <themhz> sorry den ithela na eimai eironikos
[10:19] <themhz> paizei to vrikes/
[10:19] <themhz> ?
[10:19] <kilon> loipon oyte to link soy voithise
[10:19] <kilon> exei mpoykosei to libreoffice
[10:19] <kilon> gia kapoion logo arneitai peismatika na valei orthografia
[10:20] <themhz> hmm
[10:20] <themhz> ama grapseis kati lathos sta aglika
[10:20] <themhz> sto ypogramizei?
[10:21] <kilon> oyte ayto to anagnorizeo
[10:21] <kilon> entometaksi sto macos mia xara
[10:21] <kilon> kai otan imoyn sto ubuntu 14 mia xara episeis
[10:21] <kilon> ayto einai kainoyrgio kolpo
[10:22] <kilon> skeftomai na egkatalispo to macos gia ubuntu kai linux kai tetoies ores leo , katse macos mia xara eisai :D
[10:22] <kilon> kai epipleon den me afinei na egkatastiso toy microsoft core fonts package
[10:23] <kilon> kai epipleon moy petaei system problem errors kathe ligo kai ligaki
[10:23] <kilon> all ayto to to ekane kai stin proigoymeni ekdosi
[10:23] <kilon> me liga logia to ubuntu den me goystarei :D
[10:24] <themhz> ti ekdosh ubuntu exeis twra?
[10:24] <kilon> 15.04 tora
[10:25] <kilon> 14.04 prin
[10:25] <kilon> stin 14.04 idioi orthografoi doyleyan mia xara
[10:25] <kilon> poy einai oi idioi poy xrisimopoio kai sto macos
[10:27] <themhz> στα εργαλεία -> διαχειριστής επεκτάσεων δεν βρισκεις τους ορθογράφους?
[19:16] <xeirwn> thn kalispera mou apo to olokainourgio mou ubuntu :)
[19:18] <kerato> nice
[19:27] <xeirwn> eriksa kai mia matia sto forum ex8es.....exei arketa plousia 8ematologia telika ;)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.458367
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"kerato",
"kilon",
"themhz",
"xeirwn"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-dk
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[23:40] <Simooon> nogen her?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.459248
| 2015-11-03T00:00:00 |
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"Simooon"
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-community-team
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[03:54] <tsimonq2> hey, after UDS tomorrow, where caqn I watch the sessions? I will be at achool but I would still like to watch
[03:55] <tsimonq2> *school
[03:55] <tsimonq2> *can
[04:00] <mhall119> tsimonq2: you can watch them from the same pages as the live stream on summit.ubuntu.com
[04:03] <tsimonq2> ok, thanks
[04:38] <jose> dupingping: certificates can take some time. there have been cases where it takes up to 6 months. it is sent via slow mail so it takes time
[04:39] <dupingping> jose, already sent?
[04:39] <jose> dupingping: I don't know. someone at Canonical handles them. just be very very patient
[04:40] <dupingping> jose, oh, 6 months?
[04:40] <dupingping> very very slow.
[04:41] <jose> slow mail takes a lot of time, but it lets us save money so all Members can get certificates
[04:42] <dupingping> jose, yes. But they can send me an email attach the certificate scaned the certi paper.
[04:43] <dupingping> jose, So i can print the paper by myself before get real certificate.
[04:43] <jose> dupingping: no, unfortunately not. there are many many certificates so it would be very difficult
[04:44] <dupingping> jose, they can let me trace the mail transport id?
[04:45] <jose> dupingping: no, certificates do not have one. they are sent with the less expensive option to save money. remember we need to send certificates to all members and it can be expensive if we start adding things like tracking numbers
[04:45] <jose> dupingping: may I ask, why are you in a hurry to get the certificate?
[04:46] <dupingping> jose, yes, i think that it's related to my reputation.
[04:47] <jose> evening, Guest60019!
[04:47] <Guest60019> hey jose
[04:47] <jose> dupingping: unfortunately there is nothing we can do to speed up the process. you need to be patient - the certificate will arrive. we just don't know the time
[04:48] <dupingping> jose, I see, thank you. I'll just wait.
[04:48] <jose> I'm sorry we can't do more.
[04:48] <jose> and also, congratulations on membership :)
[04:49] <dupingping> jose, oh, no problem. And thank you.
[08:38] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:47] <MooDoo> morning
[08:50] <czajkowski> Aloha
[10:47] <dholbach> I'm out for lunch - see you in a bit
[12:30] <davidcalle> mhall119, hi, two questions: does collectstatic run during deployments? I believe the devportal.css used on prod is missing a change made a while ago, there is a diff between what's in the prod branch and what's visible online for this file
[12:33] <davidcalle> Second q. I'm getting errors when I run the apidoc importer on a fresh local trunk, is there any command to run (other than make dev) before ./update_apidocs.sh?
[12:33] <mhall119> davidcalle: it's run my mojo's postdeploy, but if you only do a juju set it will not be run
[12:34] <mhall119> nothing else should be needed for update_apidocs.sh to run, are you inside the virtualenv?
[12:35] <davidcalle> mhall119, oh ok, what's the exact command we need to run on prod for that then? On staging, collectstatic hangs.
[12:36] * davidcalle tries again
[12:36] <balloons> Everyone uos ready?
[12:36] <mhall119> davidcalle: juju run --unit devportal-app/0 './run.py make collectstatic'
[12:38] <davidcalle> From the virtualenv "api_docs.models.DoesNotExist: Topic matching query does not exist."
[12:38] <davidcalle> mhall119, for all imports
[12:40] <davidcalle> mhall119, thanks for the command, can we run this safely on prod?
[12:41] <davidcalle> balloons, yes!
[12:42] <mhall119> davidcalle: oh, you need to setup topic, language and version for anything you're importing
[12:42] <mhall119> through the django admin
[12:43] <davidcalle> mhall119, ok, I wasn't sure if this was manual or automated
[13:18] <mhall119> dpm: can we move the UOS planning session up to 1500 on thursday?
[13:19] <dpm> mhall119, wfm if it works for others
[13:21] <mhall119> popey: dholbach balloons davidcalle ^^ work for you?
[13:21] * balloons looks
[13:22] <popey> i have a session then
[13:22] <balloons> probably doesn't really work, why?
[13:22] <popey> where is it now?
[13:22] <mhall119> CC meeting with mark got moved to 1600
[13:22] <balloons> 1600 thursday
[13:23] <mhall119> if it doesn't work then leave it where it is
[13:23] <mhall119> it can go on without me
[13:24] <davidcalle> mhall119, js scopes session at that time, can't really miss it
[13:28] <dholbach> mhall119, I have another session at 16 too already
[13:28] <dholbach> and one at 1500
[13:54] <Pici> (keeping an eye on the bots, I'll mess with them if they don't do what they're supposed to)
[13:54] <mhall119> thanks Pici
[14:02] <czajkowski> aloha
[14:15] <dpm> dholbach, mhall119, balloons, popey, davidcalle, http://pad.ubuntu.com/mark-qa-1511
[14:20] <Pici> okay, something was messed up, should be fixed now. will make sure things go smoothly in about 40 minutes
[15:06] <dpm> popey, mhall119, balloons, davidcalle, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeRHiqNwDa8kgsKodSS_ok2EJQbERsSp0SkAHgt61u6dIVijA
[15:07] <Pici> mhall119: woo
[15:07] <dpm> for the community roundtable
[15:07] <davidcalle> dpm, ty
[15:08] <Pici> good too, since I was stuck in my boss's office
[15:14] <dupingping> popey, hi. how are you today?
[15:14] <dupingping> popey, i sent an email you.
[15:14] <popey> oh, not seen that
[15:15] <dupingping> please check now, sent one sec ago.
[15:15] <popey> oh
[15:16] <popey> dupingping, you may have to wait a while for the certificate
[15:16] <popey> They aren't done immediately, but done in batches.
[15:16] <dupingping> yes, then may i get it before new years day?
[15:19] <dupingping> popey, i'm very wondered about the getting time. :)
[15:24] <balloons> czajkowski, davidcalle, hggdh can one of you host the unity8 session for the next hour? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22638/unity8-convergence-show-tell/ The presenter needs a someone to host
[15:24] <popey> dupingping, we don't promise when they will be sent, sorry.
[15:25] <davidcalle> balloons, sure :)
[15:26] <balloons> davidcalle, thank you. I'll let mzanetti know
[15:26] <dupingping> popey, thank you for your help. may i send mark an email? So he can see about my cert?
[15:26] <davidcalle> balloons, but I won't be able to take the 2 after
[15:26] <balloons> davidcalle, ack.
[15:27] <popey> dupingping, i personally wouldn't
[15:27] <balloons> if czajkowski or hggdh can grab one of those sessions, that would be helpful
[15:27] <dupingping> popey, wow, it's so bad idea?
[15:29] <czajkowski> balloons: cant do the next hr I'm grabbing new manager from the station
[15:29] <popey> dupingping, as I said, we don't promise when they will be sent
[15:32] <dupingping> popey, yes, but if i go to the canonical company to get the certificate?
[15:33] <popey> dupingping, the certificate will come, please be patient
[15:34] <dupingping> popey, yes, i see. I'll try to wait for the certificate. I'm very happy about meet you. You're very kind.
[15:38] <dupingping> popey, thank you. When i have any questions, may i ask you directly? I'm sorry to waste your time.
[15:39] <czajkowski> dupingping: you're not wasting peoples time
[15:39] <czajkowski> he is on the roundtable session atm so maybe slow at replying
[15:39] <czajkowski> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22610/community-roundtable/
[15:39] <czajkowski> dupingping: or if anyone else can help just ask
[15:39] <czajkowski> friendly channel :)
[15:39] <dupingping> czajkowski, :) thank you very much. there are many kindly peoples.
[15:42] <dupingping> czajkowski, can i join the meeting? i'm just a new ubuntu member.
[15:43] <popey> dupingping, sure thing, any time.
[15:43] <dupingping> czajkowski, where can i find the meeting schedule?
[15:47] <dupingping> Jorge castro saying :)
[16:00] <jose> dupingping: summit.ubuntu.com
[16:01] <dupingping> yes, jose. I found it. thank you. And i saw the meeting just now.
[17:00] * davidcalle shakes fist at his laptop
[17:24] <dpm> dholbach, mhall119, popey, balloons, who's not in sessions and up for the team Q&A later?
[17:26] <popey> I will be in a session dpm
[17:30] <dpm> np
[17:30] <dholbach> I would like to be in a session, but could make myself available
[17:30] <balloons> I believe I might be free
[17:31] <balloons> dholbach, you'll be in http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22594/snappy-clinic-bringing-ros-apps-to-snappy-ubuntu-core/ yes?
[17:32] <dholbach> balloons, or I'll watch it tomorrow that should be fine too
[17:32] <dholbach> (and let sergiusens know beforehand)
[17:32] <dholbach> I'm happy either way
[17:39] <mhall119> dpm: I'm available
[17:40] <dpm> ok, I've set up the hangout for UbuntuOnAir in summit, and I'll be sharing the hangout link here for those who want to join
[17:45] <dholbach> so who's going to do the Q&A now? :)
[17:48] <dpm> I'm up for it, and seems Mike too
[17:48] <dpm> Here's the link to join. I'm going to start it as the UbuntuOnAir user in ~7 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf9y8d48GDT5pnbcI3OJskEVk3VhiPlF2zeQbaXJC_rCLMfBw
[17:50] <dholbach> ok cool
[19:34] <balloons> popey, should this be removed? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22586/sdk-roadmap/
[20:05] <dholbach> all rightie... I call it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[20:06] <dpm> cheers dholbach, have a nice evening!
[20:08] <dholbach> you too! :)
[21:50] <jcastro> popey: I lasted like 20 seconds on your soundcloud clip
[21:50] <jcastro> until the guy started talking
[21:50] <jcastro> I then got visibly angry and closed the tab
[21:50] <popey> haha
[21:51] <popey> part 2 is more fun than part 1, he calls me all kinds of things
[21:51] <popey> one of them claims I stole the computer
[21:51] <jcastro> awesome
[21:52] <jcastro> popey: I do admit, as an american, your accent makes you come across as so smug it actually makes the entire thing even more hilarious
[21:52] <popey> hah :D
[21:52] <jcastro> it's like, a cartoon
[21:52] <popey> I was playing dumb, so that's quite the compliment
[21:53] <jcastro> OMG
[21:53] <jcastro> "Because I am not stupid"
[21:53] <jcastro> that is awesome
[21:54] <jcastro> man how come none of these guys ever call me
[21:55] <jcastro> popey: OMG, I wish you could have told him you worked at Canonical at this part
[21:55] <jcastro> that is awesome
[21:56] <jcastro> I would have
[21:56] <popey> yeah, i probably should
[21:56] <jcastro> OMG
[21:56] <jcastro> popey: this turned out way better than it should have turned out
[21:56] <popey> did you listen to #1 and #2 ?
[21:56] <jcastro> 2
[21:57] <popey> 1 is long and quite boring
[21:57] <popey> till I rickroll him
[21:57] <jcastro> hmm, the international routing system
[21:57] <popey> yeah, be scared
[21:57] <jcastro> this guy reading this huge number
[21:57] <jcastro> over the phone
[21:57] <jcastro> you can't make that up
[21:58] <jcastro> that's so ridiculous
[22:00] <jcastro> popey: actually, nevermind, the teamviewer URL being spelled out wins
[22:00] <popey> yeah, that number is one that's the same on every windows install.
[22:00] <popey> my wife listened earlier and was stunned how rude they were
[22:03] <jcastro> popey: I think listening to them out of order is actually better
[22:03] <popey> heh
[22:07] <jcastro> man I wish this would happen to me so much
[22:07] <jcastro> ok I just got to the rickroll
[22:08] <jcastro> popey: why does he want that ID number for?
[22:08] <jcastro> is that the teamviewer conf # or something?
[22:16] <popey> jcastro, depends, one long number _he_ read out was to "prove" he had my license ID.
[22:19] <jcastro> it sounds like he says "living in this app"
[22:19] <popey> jcastro, the code I was read was the teamviewer code to remote control my pc
[22:19] <popey> he would probably have installed malware while there
[22:20] <jcastro> man, you should have installed the deb
[22:20] <jcastro> and watch him flip out when he sees a unity screen
[22:20] <popey> haha
[22:20] <popey> thats a great idea
[22:20] <popey> i might setup a spare vm for next time
[22:20] <jcastro> "oh wait, sure, I'll be happy to give you access, give me a second to fire up a container for you."
[22:20] <jcastro> lol
[22:20] <popey> hah
[22:21] <jcastro> Man, I'm going to play this whole thing at my next party
[22:21] <jcastro> this is awesome
[22:22] <jcastro> "Cause I'm not stupid" is the best
[22:22] <jcastro> like, you can feel the guy like ... deflate
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[00:29] <jobenty_> obrut a ti bi se vozio???
[00:33] <obrut> pa malo bi :)
[00:35] <jobenty_> malo je hladno za vožnju
[00:35] <jobenty_> :-)
[00:35] <obrut> ma je.. nikad nije hladno za voznju :)
[00:36] <jobenty_> ovisi na čem se voziš
[00:37] <obrut> pa na biciklu valjda :
[00:37] <obrut> :)
[03:02] <obrut> jao sto mi se spava
[03:34] <jobenty_> LP
[06:39] <BotaniCar> Jutro, junacine
[06:40] <BotaniCar> Obrut kaj delas budan u 4 ujutro ( citaj, kaj mi od servisa nece raditi ujutro ? ) ? :)
[06:58] <jelly> bolje bit budan u 4 nego od 4 do 8
[07:01] <BotaniCar> Kao netko kogaje dete probudilo u 4 , necu nista komentirati :)
[07:03] <BotaniCar> Anyway, moj ubogi i5 i 16GB memorije su zadnja 4 dana uredno sluzili kao ThinLinc server za 3 "debela" klijenta :) Ima nekih bedova s tim da svaki session tjera svoj chromium, privremeno su to mitigirati tako da svakom korisniku dodijelim razlicit browser
[07:03] <hbogner> o/
[07:03] <BotaniCar> \o/
[07:07] <hbogner> \o/ \o/
[07:09] <BotaniCar> O
[07:10] <BotaniCar> ./\.
[07:14] <BotaniCar> http://gizmodo.com/this-apple-watch-pipboy-is-all-the-smartwatch-i-ever-ne-1740208010?rev=1446523533826 #PIPBOY !!
[07:27] <hbogner> vileni, koje si ono kuciste uzeo za doma, onaj 304 nesto?
[07:45] <jelly> heh "ubogi i5 i 16GB memorije" opisuje moj laptop
[07:46] <jelly> aanyhow. Dosta šutanja gmaila od doma da prima poštu, tuš i šutat ga sa posla
[08:07] <BotaniCar> Taktreba, nemoj svoju struju trosit' !
[08:33] <Mmike> daklem, HSLS zeli zabraniti kompenzacije :D pa koji su to moroni :)
[08:33] <Mmike> zbilja ostaje jedino zivi zid i ini idijoti
[08:35] <BotaniCar> Ja bi isto zabranio kompenzaciju, argument da je kompenzacija u redu ako se obje strane slazu je plitak. Ne jednom mi se firma morala deklarirati kao "ok, pristajemo na kompenzaciju" jer je to bio jedini nacin da se naplatimo, a ne nasa stvarna zelja.
[08:36] <BotaniCar> Ako nemres posao dogovoren za lovu isplatiti u lovi, mani me se, a ne da mi na kraju projekta velis "jel ti mogu platiti u rolama WC papira"
[08:38] <Mmike> EEEEEEEEEEEJ NEMOJ JEBAT ME.... KADATADA JA CU SJEBAT TE
[08:38] <Mmike> zabranio bi kompenzaciju?
[08:38] <Mmike> zakaj?
[08:38] <Mmike> idijotizam
[08:38] <Mmike> ja tebi duzan 1000, ti meni duzan 800, kompenziramo pa sam ti ja duzan 200
[08:38] <Mmike> di je tu bed? zakaj bi to zabranio?
[08:38] <Mmike> to je normalan nacin poslovanja
[08:39] <Mmike> kompenzacija, cesija, asignacija
[08:39] <BotaniCar> Nespretno sam se izrazio. Zabranio bih mijenjanje pogodbi. Jedina stvar koju imam protiv trampe/kompenzacije je to sto se u nas cesto desava da se posao pogodjen za lovu pretvori u kompenzaciju jer druga strana jebe zid.
[08:39] <Mmike> bez toga se stvari ZNATNO kompliciranju
[08:39] <Mmike> ne kuzim
[08:39] <BotaniCar> Suglasan
[08:39] <Mmike> dogovorio si se s losom firmom i sad bi da drzava tu nesh napravi? :) pa to si ti sam kriv
[08:40] <BotaniCar> Gle, ti i ja dogovorimo da mi tjunas bazu za 5000kn. Ti napravis posao i ja ti velim da nemam love, jel moze kompenzacija u govedini. I ti sad imas izbor fingirati da ti to pase, pa spasiti sto se spasiti da, ili popusiti
[08:40] <BotaniCar> To bi zabranio.
[08:40] <BotaniCar> Iako, stoji, kaj se drzava ima petljati u to, postoji trgovacki sud.
[08:48] <Mmike> BotaniCar: zakaj bi to zabranio?
[08:48] <Mmike> kaj si dobio time?
[08:48] <Mmike> osim kaj si mene onemogucio da se naplatim, makar u govedini
[08:49] <Mmike> to sto ja nisam prepoznao da si ti govedo koje ne placa je samo moj problem
[08:49] <Mmike> ja ti bazu nebi pipnuo bez da mi prije das 1000 kuna
[08:52] <BotaniCar> E,al to si naucio jer si imao posla s mulcima koji cash kompenziraju nicim ili govedinom. Ne znam kaj bi ti rekao, ja se slazem s rulesetom koji zabranjuje kvarnu kompenzaciju kakvu sam opisao. Nemam nista protiv da zakon kaze "ako si pogodio posao za paru i sad nemas paru, prodaj zgradu firme, tko te jebe".
[08:52] <BotaniCar> jer, trgovacki sud i utuzivanje je jalova rabota, sudstvo se ne mijenja, ostaje ti samo korekcija putem zakona.
[08:53] <BotaniCar> Vjerujem da se HSLSMDBpovci ili tko vec budu naknadno ocitovali i prosirili izjavu, da nisu mislili nista lose
[08:57] <Mmike> pa ali
[08:57] <Mmike> mislim, ja ne vjerujem kaj ti pricas :)
[08:57] <Mmike> ti i ja se dogovorimo za poso
[08:57] <Mmike> ti nemas da platis
[08:57] <Mmike> iz opravdanih razloga
[08:57] <Mmike> sjebalo te, tak nebitno kaj
[08:57] <Mmike> ti si u dobroj vjeri i namjeri isao to raditi
[08:57] <Mmike> i nemas
[08:57] <Mmike> neznam, ukralo ti karticu racuna firme i uzelo svu paru
[08:58] <Mmike> i kaj onda?
[08:58] <Mmike> ti bi sad uvodio nakaradne mjere tu?
[09:01] <jelly> ovrha!
[09:01] <BotaniCar> Da. Jer, u pravilu mi se to ne desi iz opravdanih razloga nego sam skuzio da , ako te stisnem, nemas nikakvu polugu da mi ne das da te sjebem. I, to se zlorabi. Stvar je u tom da si u takvoj nishi da ne vidis da se to dogadja.
[09:01] <jelly> also, detekcija serijskih vlasnika d.o.o. prevaranata
[09:02] <BotaniCar> tocno, jelly , tocno to sam napisao iznad. Nemas para da iskesiras posao dogovoren za kesh, prodaj esto.
[09:07] <Mmike> i zato bi ti zabranio kompenzaciju?
[09:08] <Mmike> to je k'o da hoces zabranit ceste i semafore i sve zato kaj ljudi voze pijani i pogibaju i tak
[09:08] <Mmike> ne aute , nego ceste
[09:08] <Mmike> ovrha postoji vec
[09:08] <Mmike> i omsh ovrsit
[09:08] <Mmike> i u pravilu ti se to desi iz opravdanih razloga
[09:08] <Mmike> nigdje ne pise da ja moram prihvatiti kompenzaciju
[09:08] <BotaniCar> Nije ni slicno. Nmoj reci da se i sam ne mozes domisliti nacina da uvjetno zabranis takve kvarne kompenzacije. Opet velim, nemam nista protiv ciste rabote kakvu si opisao iznad ( imam dug prema tebi, ti prema meni, prebijmo to )
[09:08] <Mmike> kompenzacija je uvijek dobrovoljna
[09:08] <Mmike> pa nisi tim nista napravio
[09:09] <BotaniCar> Ma kurac je dobrovoljan ako znam da , ako ne prihvatim kompenzaciju, necu dobiti nista
[09:09] <Mmike> osim sto si sjebao one koji koriste instrument kompenzacije
[09:09] <Mmike> pa dobrovoljan je!
[09:09] <Mmike> ne moras prihvatiti
[09:09] <Mmike> mislim, kaj
[09:09] <Mmike> zabranit ces kompenzaciju
[09:09] <Mmike> ovaj nema para
[09:09] <Mmike> i kaj onda?
[09:09] <BotaniCar> Velim ti opet, pogle kak se posluje van IT-a, nisu to predlozili ni zbog tebe ni zbog mene
[09:09] <BotaniCar> Onda ovrha.
[09:09] <BotaniCar> nemas - prodaj nesto.
[09:10] <Mmike> eto, to je tipican primjer kad netko tko nema pojma zeli uredjivat stvari
[09:10] <Mmike> pa bi on ukinuo kompenzacije
[09:10] <Mmike> jer ne kuzi kaj je to
[09:10] <Mmike> i onda sjebes masu ovih koji to koriste jer je to korisno
[09:10] <Mmike> a nisi NISTA napravio glede ovih koji su pizde - ti ce i dalje bit pizde
[09:10] <BotaniCar> ja mislim da ti ne kuzis jer odbijas pogledati van iz svog balonceka :) Al, necu te osobno napadati samo zato kaj si glasan i samouvjeren :P
[09:11] <Mmike> ti ocito nemas pojma kaj je kompenzacija
[09:11] <Mmike> to nije 'dat cu ti svinju jer ti nedam pare'
[09:11] <BotaniCar> Velim, pricekajmo malo, budu oni upotpunili izjavu, a ja sam definirao okvir u kojem bi ja nesto branio
[09:11] <BotaniCar> Ali, u kontekstu izjave, je :)
[09:11] <Mmike> ne, nije
[09:11] <Mmike> nema konteksta
[09:11] <Mmike> glupo je
[09:11] <Mmike> neinformirano
[09:11] <Mmike> i jadno
[09:11] <BotaniCar> OK, nije, ti znas bolje
[09:11] <BotaniCar> carry on
[09:12] <Mmike> velim, to je k'o da zabranis ceste
[09:12] <Mmike> jer eto, jucer kamion ubio pjesaka
[09:12] <Mmike> pa ak nemamo ceste nece auti imat di ic i rijesili smo problem
[09:12] <BotaniCar> Nije ni slicno, a ja ne mislim nastaviti raspravu :)
[09:12] <Mmike> kak nije, tocno je tak
[09:12] <Mmike> ima instrument kompenzacije, prebijanja, koji je odlican jer spara vrijeme i pojednostavljuje poslovanje
[09:12] <Mmike> ti bi sad taj instrument ubio jer neki koriste isti da muljaju
[09:12] <Mmike> a ovi drugi, koji su u ogromnoj vecini, tko ih jebe
[09:13] <BotaniCar> Kad izlaze windowsi nano ? Jedva cekam da vidim kak kontejneri delaju na tome
[09:13] <Mmike> znas ti koliko je elektromagic imao komenzacija mjesecno?
[09:13] <Mmike> stotine!
[09:13] <Mmike> i oko 20-30 cesija
[09:13] <Mmike> to je normalan nacin poslovanja
[09:13] <BotaniCar> EM je primjer sredjene firme koja je uredno poslovala ? Nasmijavas me mmike
[09:13] <BotaniCar> Ajmo pustiti temu
[09:14] <Mmike> ajmo
[09:14] <Mmike> tesko je pricat s nekim tko nezna o cem prica :)
[09:14] <Mmike> a i onda namjerno krivo tumaci recenice sugovornika
[09:14] <Mmike> sam jos jednom cu rec da je upravo to problem - nestrucni ljudi koji rjesavaju probleme koji su daleko van njihove domene
[09:15] <BotaniCar> OK, pupche svemira i meritumu stvari, pangalakticki etalonu :)
[09:16] <Mmike> nauci kaj je kompenzacija i zakaj se koristi
[09:16] <Mmike> pa se onda vrati nazad i mozemo nastavit
[09:16] <BotaniCar> Pogledaj kroz prozor !
[09:16] <Mmike> dok god mislis da je kompenzacija nacin na koji ces sjebat partnera, nemamo kaj pricat
[09:17] <BotaniCar> Ali, miki, je. Kod nas je. Opet velim, imas svoj set iskustava i interpretiras ih kak ti je zgodnije za ovaj razgovor. Tudje ne uvazavas, i sad mi , kao , raspravljamo :)
[09:17] <Mmike> ali, nije
[09:17] <BotaniCar> Spomenuti EM je kompenzaciju N puta iskoristio na silu, ta, mogli su
[09:17] <Mmike> to k'o da velis da je racun nacin prevare
[09:17] <Mmike> jer ekipa ne placa racune
[09:17] <Mmike> i kaj cemo napravit? ajmo ukinut racune
[09:17] <Mmike> spomenuti EM je koristio kompenzaciju kao i 1001 firma u .hr, za prebijanje potrazivanja
[09:18] <BotaniCar> Cuj, 2x sam EODao ovo tebi za ljubav, treci put cu sad pokusati: mmike, ajmo o bilo cem drugom
[09:18] <Mmike> znaci, em proda tmobileu telefona u isnozu od 50k kuna
[09:18] <Mmike> a tmobile s druge strane provajda internet i voice u iznosu od 10k mjesecno
[09:18] <Mmike> i onra tmobile i em naprave kompenzaciju i prebiju dug
[09:18] <Mmike> to je normalno
[09:18] <Mmike> to se radi svakodnevno
[09:18] <Mmike> i toga ima hrpa
[09:19] <Mmike> stav da je to krivo pokazuje elementratno nepoznavanje tematike
Velim, pricekajmo malo, budu oni upotpunili izjavu, a ja sam definirao okvir u kojem bi ja nesto branio # prije cirka 20 minuta.
[09:20] <Mmike> http://www.jutarnji.hr/pretrcavala-cestu-pa-poginula-u-novom-zagrebu-na-pjesakinju-je-naletjelo-teretno-vozilo-i-na-mjestu-je-usmrtilo/1449686/?fb_action_ids=10206408863553911&fb_action_types=og.comments
[09:20] <Mmike> eto ti
[09:20] <Mmike> ajmo ceste ukinut
[09:20] <Mmike> smanjit cemo broj umrlih na cestama
[09:20] <Mmike> stovise, svest cemo ga na nulu jer necemo imat ceste :)
[09:20] <dodobas> al ces imat... broj umrlih na poljskim putevima ...
[09:20] <pkiller> a stvarno ste spaljeni :) sa tim mandarinama .... nisam ni vidio prije :)
[09:20] <BotaniCar> Generaliziras nesto sto sam ( bar ja) sveo u okvire . I silis stavove gdje sam predlozio da pricekamo ocitovanje onog tko je dao izjavu.
[09:21] <BotaniCar> pkiller: veli dzeli da je slaba berba,imas ti kakav izvor ?
[09:21] <pkiller> svugdje ima mandarina oko mene... samo treba čekat noć
[09:22] <jelly> tsk
[09:22] <Mmike> BotaniCar: naravno da generaliziram, jer ti generaliziras - ne znas sto znaci termin 'kompenzacija', potpuno krivo mislis da je to nacin na koji se sjebavaju partneri
[09:22] <Mmike> a nije
[09:22] <pkiller> kod nas svi imaju u vrtu bar 2 stabla
[09:22] <BotaniCar> Mmike: i ne moze biti ?
[09:22] <Mmike> to je nacin na koji olaksavas poslovanje - kompenzacija, cesija i asignacija
[09:22] <Mmike> naravno da moze biti
[09:22] <Mmike> k'o sto i racun moze biti
[09:22] <Mmike> pa ne trazis da se ukidaju racuni?
[09:23] <Mmike> zasto?
[09:23] <BotaniCar> onda dozvoli da se ponovim: [...] silis stavove gdje sam predlozio da pricekamo ocitovanje onog tko je dao izjavu.
[09:23] <Mmike> racun, odnosno faktura, je knjigovodstveni dokument
[09:23] <BotaniCar> Koliko je bed da pricekamo kako ce autor izjave objasniti izjavu ?
[09:23] <Mmike> isto kao i kompenzacija - knjigovostveni dokument
[09:24] <Mmike> da, kad mu netko objasni da je moron i idijot koji ne kuzi o cem prica
[09:24] <jelly> Mmike: da, mozemo maknuti mandarine iz topika dok ne bude iduca berba
[09:24] <jelly> ko je jamio jamio je
[09:30] <BotaniCar> Fak mi, aj'm fejmz
[09:32] <Mmike> BotaniCar: you had yow 12 seconds
[09:33] <Mmike> hihi, ima jos: https://www.facebook.com/DarinkoKosor/photos/a.466883716665095.108094.291216057565196/989289004424561/?type=3
[09:33] <Mmike> :D
[09:35] <jelly> Sorry, this content isn't available right now
[09:36] <Mmike> jelly: https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/s720x720/12186388_989289004424561_5429265936270039894_o.jpg
[09:44] <jelly> aha
[09:56] <BotaniCar> Ima li ikakav mili nacin da forsiram aging SSH kljuceva ?
[09:58] <jelly> jebo gmail
[09:59] <Mmike> BotaniCar: no can do
[09:59] <BotaniCar> Frendica predaje informatiku u osnovnoj, veli: Jesi li znao da se binarni sustav koristi biljarnim znamenkama? I da je jedinica veća od bajta kilovat?
[09:59] <Mmike> BotaniCar: kljuc nema expiry
[09:59] <jelly> BotaniCar: klijentskih? host? Zasto pitam kad ne znam ni za jedno?
[10:00] <BotaniCar> Mmike: znam, mislio sam na softversko rjesenje koje bi kljuc stariji od X jednostavno maknulo, ako nema neko spretnije rjesenje
[10:00] <BotaniCar> jelly: :*
[10:00] <jelly> zakljucak: klinci trolaju
[10:01] <jelly> iz samog kljuca se ne vidi kad je napravljen
[10:01] <BotaniCar> jelly: ne :(
[10:01] <Mmike> BotaniCar: morao bi sloziti centralni kljuc menadzment i onda imat nesto sto ce ic po strojevima i brisat ih od tamo
[10:01] <jelly> zakljucak2: frendica trola
[10:02] <BotaniCar> Mmike: za sad to na ruke radim, ima kakvo komercijalno/opensos rjesenje za to ?
[10:02] <jelly> ključ menadžment!
[10:03] <Hrki> pozdrav dobri ljudi!
[10:03] <Hrki> jelly:
[10:03] <Hrki> se moze ikako dodatno spojiti iskon tv na 2 televizora
[10:03] <Hrki> ako si nabavim player preko ebaya ili bas oni moraju uljuciti ??
[10:03] <Mmike> BotaniCar: not that I know of
[10:04] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ja bi to u mysql :D
[10:04] <Mmike> ili - MONGO
[10:05] <Mmike> i slozis neki salt/puppet/cheffet/ koji ce ti rotirat kljuceve
[10:05] <Mmike> imas hostove na kojima stoje public-pairovi
[10:05] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ocemo masnu paru zaradit' ?! Vec imamo cert-management softvera, "samo" napraviti nadojeb koji ce na osnovu pravila koja definiramo prosetati po serverima i pobrisati/dodati kaj treba !
[10:05] <Mmike> i imas host s kojeg se spajas di je privatni kljuc
[10:05] <jelly> Hrki: legalno, moraš imati drugi STB od iskona (i dobru liniju koja ce podnijeti 6Mbps bez štekanja)
[10:06] <SilverSpace> dan
[10:06] <SilverSpace> zima vani
[10:06] <Mmike> BotaniCar: necu s tobom jer ces ti htjet to kompenzirat u krvavicama
[10:07] <Mmike> not that there's anything wrong with krvavice!
[10:07] <Mmike> :D
[10:07] <SilverSpace> uh krvavice :(
[10:08] <BotaniCar> Mmike: kak, ako sam generalno protiv kompenzacija ?! :)
[10:08] <SilverSpace> peceno kiselo zelje
[10:08] <BotaniCar> Frendica ima live feed dok ispravlja zadace klincima: "Jedan od naziva za niz od četiri bita je - CEH"
[10:08] <SilverSpace> ima da mi giht odmah iskoci
[10:08] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: PECENO zelje ?
[10:08] <hbogner> predizborna kampanja i sva ova silna prediuzborna obecanja pomazu ljudima koji imaju zdravstenih problema
[10:08] <BotaniCar> Odem guglat' recept
[10:08] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: kaj to nisi nikada probao?
[10:08] <hbogner> recimo ljudi sa konstipacijom se odmah oporave kad cuju predizborna obecanja :D
[10:10] <BotaniCar> "postupak pretvaranja podataka u oblik prikladan za obradu na računalu naziva se - koordinate"
[10:11] <hbogner> BotaniCar, lol
[10:11] <hbogner> di si to procitao
[10:12] <BotaniCar> #ono kad si klinci dosaptavaju odgovore za test :)
[10:12] <BotaniCar> hbogner: frendica ispravlja zadace/testove i feeda me na facebooku :D
[10:12] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: zelje se skuha i na kraju kad su krvavice gotove zadnjih pola sata stavi se zelje uz krvavce
[10:12] <SilverSpace> prefino
[10:13] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: ahh, to redovno jedem, nsiam nikad to zvao pecenim zeljem. Kad si napisao, prvo su mi pale pecene paprike na pamet :)
[10:13] <hbogner> dakle da nastavim sinocna pitanja, atom ploca za NAS, kaj bi vi stavili? FreeNAS, OpenMediaVault, ubuntu server, nesto cetvrto?
[10:15] <Mmike> tak smo mi u skoli
[10:15] <Mmike> frend odgovara hrvatski
[10:15] <BotaniCar> ja bi stavio OS kakav imam svugdje drugdje, da nemam sex s odrzavanjem, ili FreeNAS jer sam vec radio s njim, ne zato jer je bolji od drugih.
[10:15] <Mmike> pitanje: "Kako se zovu dva lika koji su izmislili glagoljicu"
[10:15] <Mmike> frend sapce: "Romul i Rem"
[10:15] <BotaniCar> LOL
[10:15] <Mmike> i ovaj to ponovi, na glas
[10:15] <Mmike> :)
[10:18] <hbogner> BotaniCar, bas zato i gledam da piknem ubuntu gore
[10:19] <Mmike> PUKUNTU
[10:20] <BotaniCar> PUKUNTU ! hbogner ako tako ne das hostname stroju, luzer si
[10:20] <obrut> BotaniCar: migriram korisnike :
[10:20] <obrut> )
[10:20] <obrut> vas smo odradili pa nemas problema :)
[10:20] <BotaniCar> Poor obrut , vidio sam da me netko izmigrirao i u procesu promijenio lozinke na uredjaju, skinuo sam vam sve svece s neba
[10:20] <hbogner> pukuntu?
[10:21] <BotaniCar> puknut' ubuntu, PUKUNTU !
[10:21] <BotaniCar> Mmike wins the internetz for today
[10:21] <hbogner> nego jel znate sta znaci pukuntu na tamilskom?
[10:21] <BotaniCar> LOL ! :) Kaj ?
[10:22] <Mmike> tamilski :D
[10:22] <hbogner> English phrases for the Tamil phrase 'புகுந்து விதையூன்று' (Pukuntu vitaiyūṉṟu)
[10:22] <hbogner> Inseminate
[10:22] <Mmike> a, inseminate
[10:26] <Mmike> kad cu se ja naspavat
[10:28] <hbogner> Mmike, kad djete ode na faks
[10:28] <BotaniCar> Kad ti malac i dete odu do babe na vikend ; bar je tak kod mene, samo se onda naspavam
[10:28] <Mmike> malac i dete
[10:28] <Mmike> :)
[10:29] <Mmike> sam cu rec
[10:29] <Mmike> opet
[10:29] <Mmike> po 1001vi put
[10:29] <Mmike> trebao sam dete napravit pred 10 godina
[10:29] <Mmike> BAREM
[10:29] <BotaniCar> "Koja je uloga modema". Odgovor - pretvara analni signal u digitalni i obratno....
[10:29] <BotaniCar> mama i dete , da :)
[10:29] <Hrki> jelly: kako da provjerim dal mi to linija moze podnjet ?
[10:30] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ne radi to modem
[10:30] <Mmike> BotaniCar: modem je najobicniji (!) modulator/demodulator
[10:30] <Mmike> BotaniCar: In electronics and telecommunications, modulation is the process of varying one or more properties of a periodic waveform, called the carrier signal, with a modulating signal that typically contains information to be transmitted.
[10:30] <Mmike> a ad/da konverzija je u serijskom portu
[10:30] <Mmike> na koji ti je pristekan modem
[10:30] <BotaniCar> *analni* mmike, *ANALNI*
[10:31] <hbogner> Mmike, procitaj jos jednom
[10:31] <Mmike> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :)
[10:31] * Mmike se pokrije perjem i fekalijama :)
[10:32] <BotaniCar> jebenti, da i #linux nekad zna biti koristan! Pitam tam za alat za menaziranje ssh kljuceva kao i ovdje, i veli mi lik da se planira u2f za ssh kljuceve, sto bi donekle mitigiralo rizik ukradenih kljuceva
[10:32] <Mmike> u2f?
[10:32] <BotaniCar> 2factor
[10:32] <Mmike> aha
[10:32] <Mmike> to ja imam na svojim kljucevima
[10:32] <Mmike> iako nisam siguran koliko mi je to pametno
[10:33] <BotaniCar> to je toliko kul da sad sjedim i cudim se.
[10:33] <Mmike> pa
[10:33] <Mmike> i nije
[10:33] <Mmike> naime, ak mi netko ukrade jubiki ili ak ostanem bez njega, osli kljucevi
[10:33] <BotaniCar> Da, ima par scenarija di mozes sjebat sam sebe, ali meni je primarna briga kaj imam 2 godine stare kljuceve korisnika kojima ih uopce nije problem ukrasti
[10:33] <Mmike> zato sam za svoje servere izgeneirrirao jos jedan set kljuceva di je passhprase izprintan i u sefu stoji
[10:33] <Mmike> pa ak ovo sjebem mogu s ovim drugim kljucem uletit unutra
[10:34] <BotaniCar> Taknekaj i ja imam, long live safe deposit boxes !
[10:36] <obrut> pih, passphrase... to se lako ukrade :)
[10:37] <obrut> treba kljuc imati na kartici i doticnu zastitit pinom... pa dok te netko ne doceka s toljagom, miran si :)
[10:38] <BotaniCar> Mmike: jesi ti narucio one mini tastature ?
[10:38] <pkiller> BotaniCar: kakve mini tastature? :)
[10:39] <BotaniCar> pkiller: ehh, ti mislis da ja nakon 72h+ jos cuvam URL ? Nekakve male male
[10:39] <pkiller> blutut... za mobitel kao fol?
[10:40] <BotaniCar> ma ne, za multimedijalni PC ( bar meni, dzavo ga zna sto mmike planira s svojom, ako je uopce narucio )
[10:41] <SilverSpace> obecanje ludom radovanje :)
[10:41] <BotaniCar> Zloguki proroche
[10:41] <SilverSpace> Merkel: Ako mi zatvorimo granice, počet će rat na Balkanu
[10:42] <SilverSpace> ovo je prorok zlo
[10:42] <SilverSpace> :)
[10:42] <BotaniCar> Ako oni zatvore granice, ja glasam da naoruzamo izbjeglice i pokazemo im u kojem smjeru je Berlin
[10:42] <BotaniCar> Prvo ih zovu, onda bi rekli "sad je dosta" na nasu stetu :) Kaj koka misli da smo blesavi '
[10:44] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: ma baba je sve zaribala
[10:45] <SilverSpace> sad ne zna kak to ispraviti
[10:45] <SilverSpace> Microsoft: Nitko ne može zaustaviti automatsko špijuniranje u Windowsima 10
[10:46] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: kakvo automatsko spijuniranje ? Ima previse opcija, na sto mislis ? :D
[10:47] <SilverSpace> davno sam reko da ulovim zlatnu ribicu dvije zelje bi potrosio na microsoft i aplle
[10:47] <jelly> brijem da ću stavit cron job svakih 5 minuta... mailq |grep -B2 gmail.com|grep -B1 'Connection timed out'|awk '/^[0-9A-F]/{print $1}'|tr -d '*'|tac|xargs -n1 postqueue -i
[10:47] <BotaniCar> jelly: zvuci zgodno, a koliki ti je kju ? :)
[10:47] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: novinari seru previse a ne znaju nis o tome
[10:48] <jelly> BotaniCar: za 10 minuta se natoci iljadu
[10:48] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: mene su ucili da je jedino tocno kaj u novinama mozes procitati - datum
[10:48] <BotaniCar> jelly: uff
[10:48] <SilverSpace> android je po tom pitanju jos i gori
[10:48] <jelly> a mislim jebes queue nego sto mi svakih 10 minuta stize alert, te mail kasni, te mail prolazi, te mail opet kasni...
[10:48] <BotaniCar> jelly: mozda da ipak root cause sredis :)
[10:49] <BotaniCar> jelly: zakaj tajmauta ?
[10:49] <BotaniCar> (kao da znas ) :D
[10:49] <jelly> BotaniCar: steka kod googleta, nije kod mene
[10:49] <jelly> iz .de, sa carneta, steka na isti nacin
[10:49] <BotaniCar> jelly: jel slucajno steka od kad su uveli onu opciju da mozes kenslirati mail koji si poslao ( za to abjuzaju svoj kju)
[10:50] <jelly> ne, ovo je od jutros
[10:50] <BotaniCar> nadajmo se da je privremeno
[10:51] <jelly> ili cu prebaciti test za kasnjenje maila na autluk 365
[10:51] <jelly> ovaj. ofis 386
[10:51] <BotaniCar> Hahahaha , kaj, da budes siguran da je dio kasnjenja i s tvoje strane ? :D
[10:51] <BotaniCar> cloud to cloud, nocna mora, ni za sto nisi siguran kak je setupirano :D
[10:52] <jelly> tome test i sluzi, ne, kakti gmail je pouzdan pa cemo raditi round-trip preko njih i gledati koliko nam kasni mejl :-)
[10:52] <BotaniCar> ;)
[10:52] <BotaniCar> U cijeloj prici me veseli da vas uopce zanima koliko vam traje round trip
[10:53] <jelly> 25 alerata od jutros
[10:54] <Mmike> BotaniCar: jok - bed mi je. mislim, narucim, al' sansa je da nece doc
[10:54] <jelly> sad cu nagiosa usutkat, rucak, jebe mi se
[10:54] <Mmike> narucio sam tak SSD s amazona
[10:54] <Mmike> 100 eura
[10:54] <Mmike> nije doso
[10:54] <BotaniCar> Mmike: sjecam se te price, jesi bar paricu dobio nazad ?
[10:54] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ak si spreman preuzet rizik samnom i s dodobasom, narucim
[10:54] <Mmike> BotaniCar: jok
[10:54] <Mmike> BotaniCar: kaj je najbolje opce se nemam di zalit amazonu
[10:54] <BotaniCar> Sisu im sisavu
[10:55] <dodobas> eh taj offis... 50% mailova (odokativno) dobijem ovo ...
[10:55] <Mmike> ono, nema 'send us email'
[10:55] <dodobas> 11/2/2015 1:57:30 PM - Remote Server at emea01-internal.map.protection.outlook.com (10.174.64.27) returned '550 4.4.7 QUEUE.Expired; message expired'
[10:55] <dodobas> 11/2/2015 1:47:28 PM - Remote Server at emea01-internal.map.protection.outlook.com (10.174.64.27) returned '441 4.4.1 Error encountered while communicating with primary target IP address: "Failed to connect. Winsock error code: 10061, Win32 error code: 10061." Attempted failover to alternate host, but that did not succeed. Either there are no alternate hosts, or delivery failed to all alternate hosts. The
[10:55] <dodobas> last endpoint attempted was ::1:1101'
[10:55] <jelly> dodobas: sta expired, pa tek si im je poslao...?
[10:56] <dodobas> jelly: ma odustao sam od pokusaja
[10:56] <BotaniCar> bas gledam, kaj nemaju tamo ni resend period ni nish ?
[10:56] <jelly> mislim si, mozda je tako i bolje
[10:56] <jelly> jer ak me korisnik gnjavi da mu mejl kasni 7 minuta...
[10:56] <BotaniCar> da, ako imas takve ..
[10:56] <jelly> onda bolje da ga odmah odjebe pa zna na cemu je
[10:57] <api984> jelly: si mjerio mail headere kada
[10:57] <api984> dodobas: ovo je interni error kod njih
[10:57] <BotaniCar> Interesantno je kak ne objasnjavamo korisnicima da e-mail nije garantirano isporuciv, kamoli instant, medij ; nego se trudimo realnost pribliziti nerealnom ocekivanju :D
[10:57] <api984> dodobas: puko im SMTP iznutra
[10:58] <jelly> api984: mjerio čime, metrom? vagom?
[10:58] <api984> dodobas: ovo za expired pogledas message id i usporedis s svojom
[10:58] <api984> jelly: mislio sam na email headere… radeci se o tome koliko je bio delay kod slanja
[10:59] <jelly> brb ručak
[11:00] <api984> jelly: http://mxtoolbox.com/EmailHeaders.aspx
[11:00] <api984> ok
[11:09] <vileni> hbogner: nemoj freenas
[11:10] <hbogner> vileni, zakaj ne?
[11:10] <hbogner> dodobas mi bas nesto spomenuo freenas
[11:13] <BotaniCar> vileni: i second that, zakaj ne FreeNAS?
[11:22] <BotaniCar> Nu, sad su me poslovnim ponudama poceli spamati i na facebooku ..
[11:31] <vileni> BotaniCar: hbogner ja sam slagao freenas, i onda sam naletio na tonu postova o tome kako imaju problema ako nemas ecc memoriju
[11:32] <vileni> naravno, podrazumijeva se da ces imati zfs
[11:32] <BotaniCar> vileni: sve sto nema ECC prije ili poslije trigerira probleme :)
[11:32] <vileni> s druge strane, zahtjevi za memorijom su poveci
[11:32] <vileni> na srecu nije skupa jel
[11:33] <vileni> isto tako, postoji i fork, nas4free, koji niti nema toliko zahtjeva, niti toliko inzistira na ecc
[11:33] <vileni> imam i jedne i druge u "produkciji", ali na razlicitim su strojevima pa ne mogu usporediti bas
[11:33] <BotaniCar> Cuj, nisi nikaj konkretno rekao, a savjetujes da ne :)
[11:33] <vileni> freenas je na nekoj asus amd ploci, 16gb ecc, 4x3TB
[11:34] <hbogner> memorija je ecc
[11:34] <vileni> BotaniCar: za konkretno bi trebao imati puno vise vremena, ali posto sam potrosio vise dana na sve to, ostalo mi je u sjecanju big no no na non-ecc
[11:34] <vileni> hbogner: onda ok, druga stvar koju moras paziti je kako slazes poolove i kako dodajes diskove, ako ces ih dodavati
[11:38] <hbogner> kaj je sa diskovima?
[11:40] <vileni> ako ne pazis, mozes dodati disk, u pool, koji je inace slozen da bude redudantan
[11:40] <vileni> i on ce to prihvatiti, dodat ce ti taj jedan disk zasebno
[11:40] <vileni> i imas ces pool npr od 1 mirrora i 1 diska
[11:40] <vileni> a ne mozes micati diskove iz poola
[11:41] <hbogner> aha
[11:41] <vileni> mozes jedino sve maknuti u drugi pool, unistiti ovaj, i vratiti nazad ako se dobro sjecam
[11:41] <hbogner> mislim imam samo dva diska za sad u raid1
[11:44] <vileni> to bi trebalo biti dovoljno jednostavno
[11:45] <vileni> freenas preporuca ram = 4g + 1gb po terabajtu diska
[11:48] <hbogner> huhm, a ja imam 4gb
[11:48] <hbogner> tj imat cu
[11:49] <SilverSpace> http://www.index.hr/lajk/poster/148044/mozete-li-vjerovati-da-su-ovo-baka-mama-i-unuka
[11:52] <vileni> hbogner: nisam siguran da je to 1gb po terabajtu iskoristivog prostora ili ukupno, ali mislim da je po iskoristivom :)
[11:53] <hbogner> hmm, bum istestirao malo freenas u virtualki
[11:53] <hbogner> kao sto sam omv tesitrao
[11:53] <BotaniCar> KAK SI TESTERISO BENZINSKU PUMPU ?!
[11:55] <hbogner> lol
[11:55] <hbogner> *testirao openmediavault
[11:58] <BotaniCar> Steta, rek'o, ako se moze nekako testirati benzin, ja bi rado :)
[11:58] <SilverSpace> kaj pijes bengu?
[11:58] <BotaniCar> Nego, probajte https://sabor2015.hr #U svrhu znanstvenog istraživanja prikupljamo podatke o izborima za Hrvatski sabor 2015. godine u Republici Hrvatskoj putem društvene mreže Facebook. Cilj je istraživanja utvrditi mogu li rezultati Facebook ankete biti svojom preciznošću sumjerljivi rezultatima tradicionalnih anketa te utvrditi kako međusobna poznanstva utječu na širenje informacija i stavove korisnika
[11:58] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: auto mi je benzinoholicar :)
[11:59] <ivoks> Mmike: si vidio ovo?
[12:00] <ivoks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-DZX5bRKWU
[12:00] <datase> YouTube: Canonical - Amazing Operations 201: In Place Upgrades of OpenStack With Running Workloads - 0:27:38 - 139 views - 2 likes / 0 dislikes
[12:00] <ivoks> a posebno ovo :)
[12:00] <ivoks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM1ANSge01g
[12:00] <datase> YouTube: Automated OpenStack Deployment: A Comparison - 0:41:15 - 727 views - 17 likes / 0 dislikes
[12:01] <BotaniCar> Sunac vam kenoniklovski, uzet cete mi sav lagan posao i morati cu se baviti ozbiljnim sistemasenjem :D
[12:02] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: opet knjige u ruke :)
[12:02] <SilverSpace> opet nesto server steka
[12:02] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: lako za to , nego frajeri micu sav no-brainer posao u automatiku ! Morat' cu misliti na poslu :D
[12:03] <SilverSpace> kao sad ne mislis
[12:03] <BotaniCar> Pa, ima dana kad sam k'o robot, to su obicno dani kad se deploya neko zeljez, OS-ovi, servisi. A ovi tu bi da se to sve radi samo ! :)
[12:04] <pkiller> sad znaš kako se vozači kamijona osjećaju kada vide tesla self driving car
[12:04] <BotaniCar> Da. Serkaju, ali su u stvari odusevljeni :D
[12:05] <pkiller> mogu spavat dok kamion vozi :)
[12:05] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZxZC0lgOlc ovako? :)
[12:05] <datase> YouTube: Mercedes Self Driving Truck Driving Itself Mercedes Future Truck 2025 Commercial CARJAM TV 4K 2015 - 0:04:12 - 1030124 views - 1898 likes / 242 dislikes
[12:05] <pkiller> baš sam o tom videu razmišljao kad sam pisao :)
[12:06] <BotaniCar> ivoks: ovaj drugi filmic je , bar prvih 10 minuta, k'o reklama za redhat :)
[12:07] <BotaniCar> Jel mi mora dete imati kakvu identifikaciju ako bi ga vodio s sobom dok idem u sloveniju ?
[12:08] <vileni> vjerojatno rodni list ne stariji od 5 min
[12:08] <pkiller> haha
[12:09] <pkiller> punomoć od bake od tvog unuka... ako ideš sam :)
[12:09] <BotaniCar> "Tripleo is OpenStack on OpenStack" :)
[12:09] <pkiller> jel se netko igrao sa Slax-om (ne linux distribucija nego chat)
[12:14] <vileni> pkiller: Slack mozda?
[12:23] <pkiller> vileni: tako je...
[12:27] <vileni> ja sam se regao tamo da vidim to
[12:30] <BotaniCar> https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12191884_976001145806247_7644858115945114412_n.jpg?oh=3734a3187c7a303e7fcea91803c093d7&oe=56F9F515
[12:30] <SilverSpace> https://youtu.be/lZyppaveeco
[12:30] <datase> YouTube: Kirklees Light Railway - 22nd February 2014 - 0:09:52 - 3186 views - 10 likes / 0 dislikes
[12:43] <SilverSpace> http://lajk.s3.index.hr/index/800/b99de602-e355-41f7-a24a-c8840bd9495b.jpeg
[12:53] <obrut> o svasta... https://getpicka.com/ ne znam jel autor zna kak je nazvao tool
[12:58] <SilverSpace> obrut: lol
[13:02] <BotaniCar> pkiller: re:kakva mala tastatura - http://www.ebay.com/itm/231636102294
[13:02] <SilverSpace> http://is.gd/gDSdoT
[13:05] <BotaniCar> SilverSpace: ahahahahaha
[13:11] <jelly> huu
[13:12] <BotaniCar> bilo je /me se ruga sjenici :D
[13:13] <SilverSpace> Još samo godinu dana možete kupiti računalo s Windowsima 7
[13:13] <SilverSpace> pozurite :)
[13:13] <BotaniCar> dakle, na 30+ servera imam servis koji za validaciju integriteta u syslog pukne neki string, samo na jednom serveru u fazi provjere ne moze naci taj string, iako je u logu ..
[13:13] <BotaniCar> A ja nemrem naci di u kodu mu je dio koji cita log ..
[13:14] <BotaniCar> dodje mi da cijelu konfiguraciju c/p s drugog servera
[13:21] <dodobas> obrut: pick-a :)
[14:26] <Mmike> LASCIATE MI CANTAR
[14:26] <Mmike> e
[14:30] <BotaniCar> To je to, bra'o, tocno mi je ta trebala ! :)
[14:32] <BotaniCar> Stvar mi je bila tak' dok nisam nasao prijevod
[14:32] <Mmike> DAJTE MI DA PJEEEEEEEEEEEEEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAM :D
[14:33] <BotaniCar> !!! DAJTE MOMKU DA PEVA !
[14:40] <Mmike> obasjalo mi sunce laptop
[14:40] <Mmike> brate mili sto je prljav
[14:41] <obrut> meni kad obasja ekran skuzim da su mi se sve tipke utisnule u njega :)
[14:42] <jelly> con la chitarra in mano
[14:42] <Mmike> citra mi je uvijek bila drag dokument
[14:42] <Mmike> erm, instrument
[14:43] <BotaniCar> Moj mali je opcinjen harfom, moram priznati da se i meni dopada :)
[14:43] <jelly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syc78JzHGTs
[14:43] <datase> YouTube: Toto Cutugno - L'Italiano (1983) - 0:03:57 - 402503 views - 2159 likes / 51 dislikes
[15:03] <obrut> sunce vam s tom pjesmom, mislim da ju necu moci izbacit iz glave :)
[15:04] <obrut> tekst je bezveze, al je melodija bas dobra... nisam ju dugo cuo...
[15:04] <obrut> mislim da cem uzet gitaru u ruke kad dodjem doma :P
[17:25] <SilverSpace> pih
[17:25] <SilverSpace> Kaže Franko da kad ne bi bilo Postolara da bi bilo bolno
[17:45] <jobenty> pozdrav
[17:45] <jobenty> ima linetko malo vremena
[17:48] <jobenty> recimo da mi se ne sviođa taj ubuntu, nešto sam čitao i ja bih sad instalirao MINT na svoje računalo. Što moram učiniti? Moram li formatirati sistemsku particiju ili je dovoljno samo skinuti tu distribuciju koju želim instalirati?=
[17:51] <SilverSpace> http://lajk.s3.index.hr/index/800/a300fcb0-4d88-4ce1-a672-bc17777e83a0.png
[17:52] <SilverSpace> jobenty: skines koju zelis i pri instalaciji mozes sve odraditi kaj hoces
[17:53] <jobenty> ok
[18:36] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer
[19:17] <jobenty> dobra večer
[20:43] <dodobas> yutro
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:25] <daftykins> guy can't even work out when a path exists :(
[00:26] <TJ-> You wonder why I'm quiet?!
[00:27] <Bashing-om> Sgt Schartz: " I know nuthing " .
[00:29] <TJ-> oh love-er-ly ... Ubuntu with snappy packaging is now termed "Ubuntu Personal" and everything preceeding it is called 'legacy applications'
[00:29] <TJ-> Way-to-go in marginalising
[00:30] <daftykins> :/
[00:30] <daftykins> once standard .deb packages are gone, that's really going to cut off some of the bridges ubuntu has as a distro, no?
[00:31] <TJ-> They won't go, but this push to Snappy is doing what the push to Unity/Phone did, but moreso
[00:31] <TJ-> Turn off a large part of the settled casual techy base why can choose to go elsewhere, leaving the clueless users and the bleeding-edge devs and very little in between
[00:32] <TJ-> s/why/who/
[00:33] <daftykins> :(
[00:33] <daftykins> it did seem to me like snappy might spell a time to move off ubuntu, yeah
[00:34] <TJ-> I love the technical idea; it is long overdue, but I hate the way it feels like it is dictated without consultation even with active users/supporters like us.
[00:36] <TJ-> binary diffs, contained apps that don't cause dependency issues outside their own requirements, that's all good stuff and means users can get more up-to-date application versions even long into, say, an LTS cycle, without the pain of backports
[00:36] <Bashing-om> @ 10.04 I became comfortanle with ubuntu, then the changes just kept coming . Now I like what I have, and I have no desire for any changes . What am I to do in this new world .
[00:38] <TJ-> I'm going to drop my oar in on the 'convergence' meetings, regarding lack of developer design/support/testing for decent multi-monitor/GPU configurations
[00:39] <TJ-> And I want to see if there's a QA session where I can bring up the need for automated fault detection and reporting, by monitoring log files
[00:42] <Bashing-om> TJ-: ^ great thought .. wonderful way to build a solid data base .
[00:42] <TJ-> The only one I see is the 16.04 LTS Desktop QA Plan tomorrow/today 1600 UTC
[02:10] <OerHeks> wine in ubuntu on a windows host.. lolz
[02:12] <OerHeks> now a graphic test suite
[02:13] <OerHeks> oh there is lotus
[02:14] <Bashing-om> shift change ! lotuspsychje
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks and Bashing-om
[02:15] <OerHeks> yeah, special for you: ubuntu in virtualbox, on a windows host, help needed with opengl3
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> brrrr
[02:15] * lotuspsychje hides
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> hi daftykins :p
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: from now on, ill take only singleboot ubuntu support lol
[02:16] <daftykins> ^_^
[02:17] <OerHeks> I don't even do single boot :-D
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> haha
[02:17] <OerHeks> 2 kernels else ..
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> zero boot
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> no boot device found
[02:19] <OerHeks> How long does it take to print 10 trillion dollars?
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: is that a trick question?
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> my scanner isnt too big :p
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-16-04-release-schedule-release-schedule-date-xenial-xerus
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> no hot news today
[02:23] <OerHeks> answer: 8 years .. https://www.rt.com/usa/320548-obama-signs-deal-double/
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> oO
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> trillions like candy
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> another ubuntu toy: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/orbbec-persee-world-s-first-3d-camera-computer#/story
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> grabbed@ https://twitter.com/ubuntu
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> soon our homes gonna turn into an ubuntu jungle with spiderdrones, flying drone with security cam,mycroft to make you real lazy and orbbec to keep an eye
[02:39] <daftykins> someone give skweek a perfect "find" command for large files in their entire / file system if they know it? :)
[02:39] <daftykins> i would only guess something like "find / -size 100M"
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> the space pie icon helped me alot in the past
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> cleaning out specific folders
[02:41] <Bashing-om> daftykins: ' sudo find / -type f -size +1G -exec du -h {} \; 2>/dev/null | sort -hr | head -n 10 ' .
[02:41] <daftykins> Bashing-om: excellent :D
[02:41] <daftykins> one mo we spotted that huge kern.log
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice xenial
[04:07] <daftykins> ;) too early
[04:10] <Bashing-om> checking out. lotuspsychje I leave my heavy work to you , Have fun !
[04:59] <OerHeks> daftykins, 403 .. as it is in an encrypted home
[05:00] <daftykins> is it?
[05:00] <daftykins> when was encrypted usage shared?
[05:00] <OerHeks> Yes, <OerHeks> DDR, i hope your /home is not encrypted with that nginx setup
[05:00] <OerHeks> [05:45:01] <DDR> It doesn't show that. I must have messed that up.
[05:00] <OerHeks> [05:45:14] <DDR> OerHeks: It is. Why?
[05:00] <OerHeks> 15 min ago
[05:01] <daftykins> :(
[05:01] <daftykins> different channel?
[05:01] <OerHeks> no in #ubuntu
[05:01] <daftykins> hmm missed that one :D
[05:01] <OerHeks> I noticed, so i took the liberty to say it here again
[05:02] <OerHeks> so sad seeing people help, without all the info
[05:02] <OerHeks> also BAD from this guy, not to mention his setup
[05:03] <daftykins> yeah :(
[05:09] <daftykins> mmm thanks for the warning there :)
[05:09] <daftykins> glad i didn't try any further with that one
[05:10] <OerHeks> :-)
[05:11] <OerHeks> again this channel is needed for backtalks
[05:12] <daftykins> :D absolutely
[05:12] <daftykins> i'm really glad it's here now, makes the volunteering so much easier
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:43] <daftykins> greetings!
[14:44] <OerHeks> heya !
[14:44] <daftykins> how's OerHeks today? :)
[14:44] <daftykins> (brb fetching lunch)
[14:45] <OerHeks> I feel shaken.
[14:45] <daftykins> earthquake?
[14:45] <OerHeks> You know, when you know you did zomething, someone else says you didn't ...
[14:46] <OerHeks> Just found out, i paid 2x rent in may 2011 .. so i get a month return
[14:46] <OerHeks> It always crossed my mind, i am a fool but i know what i do.
[14:50] <daftykins> yay :D
[14:50] <daftykins> haha i did something like that, i paid my water bill manually when it's set to come out automatically
[14:50] <daftykins> so one quarter i had like £1.30 to pay :D
[14:50] <daftykins> TJ-: afternoon sir o/
[14:51] <TJ-> Hiya... off again... damned IPv6 isn't being used again!
[14:52] <daftykins> hehehe
[14:52] <daftykins> oh dear not pikapi again
[14:53] <OerHeks> the troll yes
[15:04] <TJ-> Grrrr, I'm so angry right now I want to drop a nuke on the Chinese devs that were responsible for the code in the CPE!
[15:05] <cfhowlett> please don't tj. I'm in Beijing and have no way to get to a fallout shelter in time.
[15:06] <TJ-> :D I'll program it to leave you a nice little garden
[15:06] <TJ-> Besides, I doubt they're in Beijing... more likely much further south!
[15:07] <TJ-> Damned thing 'forgot' the WAN and LAN-side IPv6 specific settings ... but nothing else, and I couldn't figure out why the LAN had no connectivity!
[15:09] <TJ-> I'm even more pissed off now! I signed up for the UoS UEFI session, 1500 today, just got it sorted in time ... and there's no sign of the session, its even disappeared from the UoS web-site!!
[15:09] * TJ- rolls eyes ... yay! moved to 1800 Wednesday ... no warning!
[15:10] <daftykins> TJ-: some ISP supplied box?
[15:10] <TJ-> daftykins: Nope, Zyxel stuff I've been hacking; this one has the OEM stock firmware in. The others I've been porting OpenWRT too but that's a slow job so they aren't connected to VDSL yet
[15:11] <TJ-> It makes be cry to watch the boot-console ... so many warnings/errors scroll by. Amazing it works at all
[15:12] <daftykins> ah i didn't know you did that :D good little router OS that one
[15:12] <daftykins> just volunteering i take it?
[15:13] <TJ-> I've been doing it for a Scandanvian ISP. I have 3 hooked up to my serial multiplexer so I can work on them
[15:13] <daftykins> :D
[15:13] <daftykins> i'd love to get off the stock firmware on this Technicolor i have from my ISP
[15:14] <TJ-> VMG8{3,9}24-B10A
[15:14] <daftykins> at least you can disable TR.069 via telnet
[15:19] <TJ-> Yes. The problem is shoe-horning in all the binary-only VDSL support on these devices
[15:20] <daftykins> ah :(
[15:20] <daftykins> why do they do it that way?
[15:20] <daftykins> secret sauce modem chatter? :D
[15:22] <TJ-> Typical proprietary stuff; much if it taken unchanged from Broadcom, and you know what they're like
[15:22] <BluesKaj> been thinking of flashing my tp-link 3600 router with openwrt, but I don't have the nerve since the current oem seems to work fine
[15:22] <daftykins> mmm usually not worth the risk if you don't have a backup
[15:23] <TJ-> So a F/OSS build has to both figure out the low-level API and ABI to be compatible, AND separate the proprietary stuff out so it can be individually installed by end-users but not distributed. It makes for a complete mess.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> daftykins, yeah , it's difficult to suppress that urge to tinker, like Dr Strangelove :-)
[15:24] <TJ-> Generally router firmware updates are trouble-free these days, especially since most provide a web-interface to do it. The thing to always remember is BACKUP a TEXT version of the settings - even if that means writing them down on paper - and resetting the config before/after a firmware update to ensure the new version uses a correct config
[15:25] <daftykins> TJ-: indeed, i got tricked doing a friends 3com ADSL router once which wiped itself on update, despite having a friendly GUI
[15:25] <TJ-> the problem being, the config is stored in NVRAM, and different versions change the place/variable/string and values of some settings. Inheriting config from a different version can cause the config parse to choke
[15:25] <daftykins> thankfully it's just a phone call to our main local ISP for a password ;D
[15:26] <BluesKaj> TJ-, I do have the original firmware binary(s) just in case
[15:26] <TJ-> daftykins: that's worrying!
[15:27] <TJ-> they should only have a hashed version
[15:28] <daftykins> i'm following a friends advice to buy a little embedded box with 3 NICs to setup this config i need for Spain where some traffic will be sent over a VPN depending on rules
[15:29] <daftykins> he's a pfsense fan ;)
[15:31] <daftykins> TJ-: hey how do you fancy being posted a Technicolor TG789vn v3 to play with? ;) i see a TG582n is already in the support table
[15:31] <daftykins> oh maybe not working though :D
[15:32] <TJ-> If you can wait a year :D I'm so overloaded I don't know where to turn currently :D
[15:32] <TJ-> Usually I just run off with the Huskies :D
[15:33] <daftykins> i'll walk them for a month! ;)
[15:34] <daftykins> hehe, in fairness i should probably just buy a proper router instead of using the ISP supplied one
[15:34] <daftykins> it only does 130Mbps 802.11n
[15:34] <TJ-> 'only' !!
[15:34] <TJ-> some folks are SO spoiled :D
[15:34] <daftykins> :D
[15:35] <daftykins> but then i'm sane and use lovely cat6 to all my gear
[15:35] <daftykins> my 17th century place here is made of 2+ foot thick guernsey granite, so that hampers things
[15:36] <TJ-> My VDSL originally did 11Mbps... now down to 8Mbps due to crosstalk, and that is with the help of the passive G.Vector and better codecs in these Zyxels. Without that the BT-supplied Huewai manages about 6Mbps
[15:37] <daftykins> :(
[15:37] <TJ-> When we (my company) used to do those kinds of installs we'd generally put the WAP in the loft space with directional antennas beaming down through the floors. Only time we were caught out was when be discovered the building had beena former radiation labatory and had faraday cages all round every room!
[15:37] <daftykins> i guess you've got quite the rural spot?
[15:38] <daftykins> wow that's quite the niche setup
[15:38] <TJ-> Yes, but a good quality copper line 2km out, so lucky to get any type of VDSL
[15:39] <TJ-> There's a few hills else we'd put in a simple mcirowave link and be able to take a feed from next to the street cabinet
[15:41] <daftykins> ouch yeah that's quite the run
[15:41] <daftykins> my line sync here: MaxBitRateDown : 51608000 bps (51.6 Mbps) MaxBitRateUp 20086000 bps (20.0 Mbps)
[15:42] <daftykins> reported by "unpnc -s" from the miniupnpc package, pretty handy that :D
[15:42] <daftykins> as the router web admin doesn't even tell you
[15:43] <TJ-> I'm looking for a new place somewhere much further North as well so no point investing too much on it here. I'm planning on digging in my own fibre for the new location. It's a pain figuring out the potential POPs for a fibre connection though, even when there's lots of dark fibre around.
[15:44] <daftykins> i was just reading a post on a news site about a farmer guy in Scandinavia somewhere that laid his own 8km run of fibre for about £30,000
[15:44] <daftykins> er, or was that £3,000
[15:44] <TJ-> 30k sounds about right
[15:45] <TJ-> the hard part is when you've got to run along public highways
[15:45] <daftykins> http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/08/want-fiber-internet-thatll-be-383500-isp-tells-farm-owner/?comments=1&post=29545117
[15:45] <daftykins> ah no, $4000 USD
[15:45] <daftykins> is UK law awkward about that?
[15:48] <TJ-> No, but you generally need a specialist company to do that part. The hard part is, you have to notify all public utilities or the intended route so they can send out engineers to mark on the ground where their cables/pipes/services are, and knowing who to talk to is the hard part.
[15:48] <TJ-> s/or/of/
[15:49] <daftykins> >_<
[15:49] <TJ-> Makes sense, since you could be digging up electric, gas, water, other fibre, copper phone, private links and other stuff
[15:57] <daftykins> yeah, i suppose it has to be buried
[15:57] <daftykins> i just started installing kubuntu 15.10 in a VM... wow.
[15:57] <daftykins> never seen such an incredibly odd looking desktop
[15:59] <TJ-> haha! I can't watch the UoS live streams because...
[15:59] <TJ-> ... they require Adobe Flash!
[15:59] <daftykins> wow, shame on Canonical
[16:00] <daftykins> don't fancy infecting your systems with chromium and pepperflash? :)
[16:00] <OerHeks> :-(
[16:00] <TJ-> UoS is a total joke
[16:00] <TJ-> Nope, I don't allow proven insecure stuff
[16:00] <daftykins> :D
[16:00] <daftykins> a very fair choice
[16:01] <OerHeks> on chrome the video's do show..
[16:02] <daftykins> ah so you can't anonymously view, how annoying
[16:04] <TJ-> Apparently, the Live feeds are Flash only
[16:05] <TJ-> This is the kind of thing that tells me Canonical/Ubuntu is not serious about the Freedom in F/OSS; liek using Google Hangouts too... requiring registration with Google.
[16:06] <daftykins> that is pretty terrible
[16:06] <TJ-> They take the Summits online instead of real-life conferences... to me that infers a responsibility to ensure the delivery is polished and much better, not piecemeal, disorganised, and proprietary
[16:08] <TJ-> Looks like the rest of my week is free then; this is a pointless waste of time. Disappointed in Ubuntu.
[16:10] <daftykins> :(
[16:12] <TJ-> People complaining the sound is unintelligable too
[16:16] <daftykins> i'm annoyed i can't just watch without reg
[16:17] <TJ-> do you have a launchpad account?
[16:17] <daftykins> yep
[16:17] <TJ-> it uses UbuntuONE SSO so you can just use that ID
[16:17] <BluesKaj> not impressed with the direction shuttleworth has taken, looks too much like the redhat path to enterprise
[16:18] <TJ-> BluesKaj: that's the thing; he wants Canonical to make a profit, and that will only come from Enterprise
[16:19] <TJ-> The push to phones and tablets is as much to do with being able to take a percentage, but that is what has caused so much disaffection for the desktop users that made Ubuntu
[16:19] <BluesKaj> not happy with 250 million he received for his company in South Africa I reckon
[16:20] <TJ-> I thought Thawte sold for more than that. However, he's sunk a great deal into Canonical/Ubuntu so there's no argument there. My issue has become the way it has been dressed up as a 'Community' when it isn't
[16:20] <daftykins> did he just sell something down there?
[16:20] <TJ-> No, years ago, that's how he became independently wealthy. Thawte was an upstart Certificate Authority that undercut Verisign
[16:20] <BluesKaj> it's sad for kubuntu, we don't know what the future holds
[16:21] <TJ-> BluesKaj: I doubt much; I was considering devoting a lot of my time to Kubuntu as a developer but the way things have gone I'd be wasting my time.
[16:21] <daftykins> ah i see
[16:22] <TJ-> Canonical was getting through £20-50 million a year the last I checked; someone has got to pay the developers wages, and that needs to be paying customers.
[16:23] <BluesKaj> TJ-, wish you'd change your mind, we need all the help we can get ...I'm not dev but i like testing what's in the pipe so to speak, running on 16.04 as we speak
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Blue Systems has supposedly taken Kubuntu under it's wing , but I don't see a lot of communication from them
[16:24] <TJ-> BluesKaj: I don't like the approach of Kubuntu; I'm not interested in just wrapping KDE projects in debian packaging, which is all it amounts to. And it is SO disorganised, no well-defined process, as a Dev you're going to spend most time trying to figure out how to work with the tooling
[16:26] <TJ-> I suggested a fix for an issue last week, which made most sense as an Ubuntu-specific patch in the packaging and was told be sitter that "we don't do that" and "upstream must approve all patches" - what's the point of packaging a separate distro if upstream calls the shots?
[16:26] <TJ-> s/be/by/
[16:27] * BluesKaj nods
[16:37] <BluesKaj> I ran debian jessie with kde a few months back just to what changes had been made between kubuntu 14.04 and jessie , there were some differences like th audio backend etc , but effectively the 2 distros had more similarities than differences.
[16:39] <daftykins> probably a good sign to jump ship to debian then, may as well get it at source than via a third party, so to speak
[16:39] <daftykins> Bashing-om: hiya o/
[16:40] <BluesKaj> daftykins, well, if kubuntu goes away then debian and kde it is, for me at least
[16:40] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Getting back in the saddle, 'nother fun ride (?) . A good day to ya !
[16:40] <BluesKaj> not interested in mint or netrunner or any of those wannabe's
[16:41] <daftykins> Bashing-om: :D seems a *little* better today, users in #ubuntu wise
[16:43] <Bashing-om> daftykins: I have my doubts about "better" seeing Sergey's stubborness . Lead a user to good practice, can not make them .... !
[16:44] <daftykins> hehe
[16:44] <daftykins> i see he used the intel graphics driver installer too =|
[16:44] <daftykins> common mistake that one
[16:45] <Bashing-om> I have yet to see a good result by overriding Intel default open source graphic's driver. Now that is a fact .
[16:48] <daftykins> *nod* just messy PPAs to clean up after
[16:48] <daftykins> TJ-: your favourite pal weva is back
[16:48] <daftykins> ;)
[16:49] <TJ-> I just got back too; been out venting my frustration :D
[16:50] <OerHeks> i spoke to weva earlier, he is blaiming us for the help .. but the whole story is a bit strange.
[16:50] <daftykins> ah no good deed goes unpunished
[16:52] <TJ-> blaming us? in what way?
[16:54] <OerHeks> dd-ing a faulty drive .. then mounting the images .. now the original hdd is ruined .. shoot me.
[16:54] <daftykins> ugh a client wants to drive 2 x 2560x1440 res screens from a laptop and wants me to find one with a budget of £300-400
[16:55] <OerHeks> luks+lvm, when something goes wrong, we did it.
[16:58] <TJ-> I did a lot of diagnosis and he claimed some GUI tool created the encrypted devices, but I could make no sense of it
[16:59] <TJ-> I think it was supposedly gnome disks, if there is such a thing
[16:59] <OerHeks> Yes, i tried to read back, no suck action is said by us, only on the copy
[17:00] <TJ-> When I joined in he was trying to find frostshultz or some similar nickname
[17:01] <daftykins> yeah that guy spoke a few lines then ran away quickly
[17:01] <daftykins> :D
[17:01] <OerHeks> oh now it was not on this channe;
[17:02] <TJ-> I've pulled in all the IRC logs; I'll see what the history is
[17:02] <OerHeks> I am about to ask what channel ..
[17:03] <OerHeks> the last 2-3 days were many encrypted dudes with problems..
[17:04] <TJ-> looks like this is the start:
[17:04] <TJ-> /tmp/2015-11-01-#ubuntu.txt:[22:57] <weva> hello everyone, I created and mounted some disk images on my home folder. and I moved them elsewhere be
[17:04] <TJ-> cause my drive warned that there was no more free space. but after moving them, it still shows zero free space
[17:04] <OerHeks> jups that is the start
[17:05] <TJ-> I'll pastebin what grep pulled out
[17:06] <TJ-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13092879/
[17:11] <daftykins> oh dear that daftykins fellow stuck his beak in ;)
[17:11] <daftykins> caught a whiff of 'LUKS' then ran for the hills
[17:11] <OerHeks> the original issue: <weva> frostschutz, this was a partition that I properly created as encrypted, and then transferred 2,5 gb of files into, and locked before powering off the drive. in the next session, the partition was shown as "unknown"
[17:11] <TJ-> :D I don't know why! LUKS is the best thing to come for Linux encryption!
[17:12] <OerHeks> so goodbye data
[17:12] <daftykins> i just don't have a clue of encryption at all :)
[17:13] <TJ-> OerHeks: right; I don't believe it was LUKS at all. I suspect it was plain dm_crypt but as he used some GUI tool there's no knowing. The block device certainly did NOT have a LUKS header, although the encrypted data did start at a 4MiB offset
[17:13] <TJ-> daftykins: time to get up-to-speed on it :)
[17:13] <daftykins> naaah i'll never use it :>
[17:13] <TJ-> pffft!
[17:13] <OerHeks> glad someone in an other channel ruined it.
[17:14] <OerHeks> oke i have wrecked many servers and desktops from 2009 to now ..
[17:14] <OerHeks> but this is an endless loop, i am afraid
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:19] <daftykins> \o heya
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> hy daftykins
[17:19] <TJ-> Evening, is it pie n chips time already?!
[17:20] <daftykins> TJ-: i didn't get my invite ;)
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: hey mate, we just had warm soup n bread
[17:20] <TJ-> :D nor me!
[17:20] <TJ-> need something more than soup to keep me going today :P
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> the boss of the dos, naturally :p
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> they pull the lace, and you have to run along :p
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> *dogs
[17:25] <TJ-> Not them today; jsut been extremely frustrated/disappointed with the Ubuntu Online Summit organisation, so need some comfort-food :)
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: howso frustrated?
[17:26] <daftykins> it needs flash!
[17:26] * daftykins gasps all over again
[17:28] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I shan't repeat myself; but was intending taking part in UOS and been disillusioned by how poorly it is organised and the technical services being essentially proprietary
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> organisation fault?
[17:30] <TJ-> badly designed; badly executed
[17:30] <daftykins> well well - http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-DisplayPort-Multi-Stream-Transport/dp/B00XXPYGPO/
[17:30] <daftykins> displayport multistream hubs!
[17:30] <TJ-> hahaha quote of the day: "every thing is ok, but the printer does not print"
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: check this out: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-LTS-UOS
[17:33] <TJ-> what am I looking at?
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> online summit?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> relevant article bout it
[17:34] <TJ-> Oh, I was (trying) to take part but various things were broke: http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[17:35] <daftykins> one would think that's the sole job of a printer :)
[17:36] <TJ-> My laser is just there to keep my toes warm on a cold day :)
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/Canonical
[17:58] <TJ-> crikey. Ubuntu no longer has a maintainer for the Network Manager packages, apparently for a while now
[18:35] <daftykins> TJ-: ooh the German lad with the funky optimus laptop setup is PMing me
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> funky lol
[18:36] <daftykins> i'm suggesting he check that /var/log/prime-supported.log
[18:42] <daftykins> nope file doesn't exist
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> maybe after nvidia-prime is installed?
[18:44] <daftykins> blank screen when that's on
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> in combination with wich driver?
[18:45] <daftykins> 352
[18:45] <daftykins> GTX 980M in an MSI laptop
[18:45] <TJ-> got to "sudo /usr/bin/prime-supported" first
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> we had some users with issues on 970 also on 15.05/15.10
[18:46] <daftykins> how should i get him to boot though, he can only get a workable desktop or TTYs with nomodeset right now
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hellowwww
[18:47] <daftykins> ah he failed to mount
[18:47] <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje
[18:47] <daftykins> TJ-: /var/log/prime-supported.log said "No offloading required. Abort"
[18:48] <daftykins> here's his live session dmesg which required nomodeset to boot - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13093862/
[18:48] <daftykins> this is one expensive machine, i7-6700HQ :)
[18:50] <daftykins> happy to suggest he move it to the channel so you're not having to go via me :)
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:51] <TJ-> vgaarb: setting as boot device: PCI:0000:00:02.0 <<< likely the Intel device
[18:52] <daftykins> so if no offload is needed, is the intel ok to be the boot device?
[18:52] <TJ-> [ 4.681571] efifb: mode is 1920x1080x32, linelength=7680, pages=1
[18:52] <TJ-> [ 4.688636] fb0: EFI VGA frame buffer device
[18:53] <daftykins> ooh so it could've brought up an image but somehow not be showing it, wrong viewport perhaps?
[18:53] <daftykins> actually that's the live session so not even hugely relevant atm
[18:53] <daftykins> i've made him try another normal boot, then going back into the live session to read logs from disk again
[18:54] <TJ-> this'll be the nvidia: [ 0.357269] pci 0000:01:00.0: [10de:13d8] type 00 class 0x030200
[18:54] <TJ-> and the intel: [ 0.354866] pci 0000:00:02.0: [8086:191b] type 00 class 0x030000
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> dear lord what have they done agai now
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-imposes-deadline-for-new-pcs-with-windows-7-or-8-october-31-2016/
[18:56] <OerHeks> :-D
[18:56] <TJ-> so on an installed boot, without nvidia, i915 and nouveau would likely the expected drivers
[18:56] <daftykins> TJ-: here's what he sees attempting a boot without 'nomodeset' with the nvidia driver 352 or 346 installed and nvidia-prime : http://imgur.com/VbR7dfK
[18:58] <TJ-> looks like its in text console mode there; is that a Recovery boot?
[18:59] <daftykins> hmm i wonder if he's picking the wrong one to edit
[18:59] <TJ-> Has the user tried Ctrl+Alt+F1-F7 in case the active VT is elsewhere?
[18:59] <daftykins> yeah apparently any press of any Fx combo results in the screen blanking, then it never changes again
[18:59] <TJ-> the font rendering in that image looks like a text-mode VGA font; not graphics mode
[19:00] <TJ-> Is there no sign of the Plymouth splash then?
[19:01] <TJ-> If the system is booting in EFI mode AND the uefi-vga framebuffer driver is loading, it is possible that somehow that causes a conflict with intel/nvidia
[19:01] <ioria> Eric^^ are you around ?
[19:01] <TJ-> we'd need to see the dmesg/kern.log for that
[19:04] <EriC^^> ioria: hey yeah
[19:04] <EriC^^> what's up?
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> parttioning hell :p
[19:05] <ioria> there is a guy with dual boot issues (?)
[19:05] <ioria> a bit confused
[19:05] <ioria> DofDow
[19:05] <EriC^^> ok
[19:05] <ioria> now is partitioning an external usb
[19:10] <daftykins> yeah here's this phantom nomodeset - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13094061/ from /mnt/var/log/kern.log
[19:11] <daftykins> so the log is grabbed from the install, mounted in the live session - yet he swears he presses 'e' to edit and confirms no 'modeset' is present on the boot entry
[19:11] <daftykins> i'm stumped :D
[19:11] <TJ-> daftykins: that log is Oct 30th
[19:11] <daftykins> oh yeah 29th even
[19:12] <TJ-> last entries 30th, after a boot
[19:12] <daftykins> oh ja
[19:12] <TJ-> daftykins: "ls -latr /mnt/var/log/" and see what was most recently updated
[19:13] <daftykins> roger that
[19:13] <daftykins> must not be getting far enough to write o0
[19:13] <TJ-> daftykins: ask if any external devices are connected (that it might be booting from) - USB hard drives, flash storage, etc.
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> pcieport 0000:00:1c.0: AER: Corrected error received: id=00e0
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> alot of those daftykins
[19:14] <daftykins> he has mentioned there's a BIOS update available
[19:14] <TJ-> Yes, the firmware looks BADLY broken
[19:14] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13094096 logs ls
[19:14] <TJ-> there are loads of methig parse/execution errors
[19:15] <daftykins> so yeah nothing has even emerged into November yet
[19:15] <daftykins> so any test boots aren't making it very far?
[19:15] <daftykins> ok, i think i'm going to suggest the BIOS update is put on
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> 0.933492] aer 0000:00:1c.4:pcie02: service driver aer loaded
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> Oct 30 17:27:41 tobias-PC kernel: [ 0.933507] pcieport 0000:00:01.0: Signaling PME through PCIe PME interrupt
[19:15] <TJ-> looks like it is likely hanging in the initrd.img, hence no logs since 31st
[19:16] <daftykins> i was suggesting the intel wifi module error couldn't surely be affecting things
[19:17] <TJ-> Id' also look at what was last installed according to /mnt/var/log/dpkg.log on the 30th; I'd bet whatever applied there is at the root of the issues
[19:17] <TJ-> it could be the initrd.img is corrupt and needs recreating. chroot for that
[19:17] <TJ-> is there a separate /boot/
[19:18] <daftykins> nah, just / and /home
[19:18] <TJ-> check the initrd.img s in /boot/ then
[19:30] <daftykins> http://imgur.com/IEvviHi ;)
[19:40] <daftykins> http://imgur.com/XqHea9A - 'Broke bios is suspected.'
[19:40] <daftykins> it's not its' fault it didn't have the opportunities we all did ;)
[19:41] <TJ-> looks like those Chinese devs got their hands on it, too :p
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> xenial packages database ubottu updated@ #ubuntu+1
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> just letting you guys know
[19:43] <daftykins> do we reckon he's up a creek without a paddle then - assuming the initrd is ok?
[19:43] <TJ-> summit is getting farcical; several people nattering on without testing the microphones, people cannot hear anything. *sigh* where did professionalism go?
[19:43] <OerHeks> trolls should reinstall. period.
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:44] <TJ-> daftykins: it looks that way; very broken for sure, although I doubt the ACPI EC error is causing the screen issue directly.
[19:44] <daftykins> TJ-: okie dokie, thanks for your input :) gonna try the chroot to double check
[19:44] <daftykins> what would i be better off instructing, an install --reinstall of the kernel package?
[19:46] <TJ-> just an "update-initramfs -u -k <VERSION>"
[19:47] <daftykins> where ver has to be a full uname -r string, or?
[19:48] <daftykins> it's ok, spotted the man page :D
[19:49] <TJ-> yes
[19:49] <TJ-> 3.13.0-55-generic
[19:50] <TJ-> is there another PC available that could ssh in? might be worth installing openssh-server in the chroot whilst its there, and when the PC appears to hang find out its IP address from the router and try an SSH session
[19:51] <daftykins> sounds like a plan
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> what a nice crew we got here :p
[20:03] <daftykins> imgur.com/4ZLOqM4
[20:03] <daftykins> oops http://imgur.com/4ZLOqM4 there's the result after initramfs rebuild
[20:03] <daftykins> so looks like it's just a no go for Linux on that one
[20:04] <OerHeks> maybe there is a bios update?
[20:04] <daftykins> applied just earlier, yeah
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> hi wileee
[20:08] <TJ-> daftykins: any network response?
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> hi philipballew
[20:09] <daftykins> TJ-: ah i'd not gone that far yet
[20:19] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I am off to dinner; let minas114 know if they return. hopefully there'll be good news
[20:20] <daftykins> :)
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ok
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> lets see if it can solve the acpi :p
[20:23] <TJ-> good job I didn't go!
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> loool
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> no dinner yet for you!
[20:24] <TJ-> 2nd time lucky!
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[20:24] * daftykins distracts TJ- further
[20:24] <daftykins> apparently on rebooting normally without nomodeset to test SSH connection, plymouth showed up O_O
[20:25] <TJ-> ha! so nomodeset was there?
[20:25] <daftykins> nah he says he didn't add it this boot
[20:25] <daftykins> as it was the SSH test, although it doesn't connect
[20:25] <TJ-> so been adding it manually? So with splash up, does 'Esc' send it away and display the console?
[20:26] <TJ-> it might be worth trying to boot to the busybox shell in initrd.img with "break=init" on the kernel command-line. If it gets that far, then something in the root file-system/systemd-init process may be at fault
[20:26] <daftykins> >8\/
[20:27] <daftykins> i almost said just try 14.04.3 ;)
[20:27] <daftykins> perhaps when you're feeling bored after dinner i can suggest he highlight you sir :D
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:28] <TJ-> initrd.img's /init shell script has many places where it can be stopped, by putting the appropriate 'name' after "break=" there are things like 'mount' 'pre-mount' etc
[20:28] <daftykins> on a reboot he says the screen is just purple this time, escape does nothing
[20:28] <TJ-> the function maybe_break() checks for the setting. You can list the current options with "grep maybe_break /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init"
[20:29] <TJ-> sounds like locked up
[20:30] <daftykins> yeah, pretty frozen
[20:32] <TJ-> You know, it amazes me how people can fail on quote marks!
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> "what do you mean" :p
[20:33] <daftykins> '"surely not'"..;;;
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:34] * TJ- throws Spag Bol
[20:34] * daftykins dives and catches in mouth
[20:35] <TJ-> right, I'm off to eat before the Huskies get there first
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> bon apetit TJ-
[20:36] <daftykins> arooooooooooooooooooo!
[20:37] <daftykins> i should do that food thing too
[20:37] * lotuspsychje hides
[20:39] <TJ-> Grrr, no food, hungry tummy!
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:40] * lotuspsychje throws some chili chips to TJ-
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice xenial
[20:41] <TJ-> om yom yom!
[20:42] * daftykins goes to the kitchen
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> Pici: good evening :p
[20:47] <Pici> !info bash xenial
[20:48] <TJ-> troll alert! Xenial basher in! :D
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> ahaa working :p
[20:48] <Pici> ;)
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> tnx Pici
[20:49] <Pici> np
[20:49] <Pici> now to bash the rest of the bot clones
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> how many you have :p
[20:50] <Pici> 7 total bots, not counting meetingology
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> wow alot of clones
[20:51] <Pici> ubottu itself is in about 40 channels, after that it gets a bit laggy
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> must be strong server
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: good evening :p
[20:52] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: And to you :)
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> we discussing relevant issues here lately with each other, to help users more efficiently
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: http://news.softpedia.com/news/fedora-23-workstation-server-and-cloud-is-out-495698.shtml
[20:55] <TJ-> Anyone else think we need a 'tuneup' package, that contains scripts that analyse/apply common fixes for widespread issues?
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: what does that mean in eglish
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> english
[20:57] <TJ-> tune-up is like automobile engine tuning
[20:57] <TJ-> adjust its config to make it perform optimally
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> !info tune-up
[20:58] <TJ-> I was thinking on the amount of time we and users waste repeating the same steps, which a script could do in less than a second
[20:58] <Pici> for what though?
[20:59] <TJ-> acpi osi is becoming common; gpu, especially Optimus; creating chroot; cryptswap breakage
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> yeah acpi and optimus are burning hot on 15.04 and 15.10
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> tons of users weekly on same issues
[21:00] <TJ-> scanning all logs files for known clues and pointing to known fixes/workarounds
[21:01] <Pici> that sounds like fodder for a good wiki page, not exactly a script
[21:01] <TJ-> I often spend more than 2 hours leading a user through what the script could do in 1 second
[21:01] <lotuspsychje> wikihow ubuntu :p
[21:02] <TJ-> Wiki is no good; the stuff I'm talking about needs informed decision making
[21:02] <TJ-> wiki quickly bit-rots too
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: looks like paying version: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/tuneup/
[21:03] <TJ-> I was working on apport (the crash/bug reporter) recently and thought we really need something that catches issues before they become crashes, or more widely, spots issues the user may not be aware of but ought to be fixed
[21:04] <TJ-> Ha! "Disable IPv6" ... err no thanks!
[21:04] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: looks like a good idea, but howto implement it
[21:05] <TJ-> That must be REALLY old. it talks about JDK 7
[21:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[21:05] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: The amount of intelligence we gather, and solutions, that's what I'm thinking about capturing and encoding in code
[21:05] <TJ-> anyhow, really really dinner time now
[21:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[21:06] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: you cant leave from us
[21:06] <daftykins> XD
[21:06] <daftykins> i've been and bought mine ;)
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Admission: I generally partake at the keyboard. If I depart, just takes sooo long to get caught back up !
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: something like this? https://github.com/dennyb87/factotum
[21:13] <daftykins> Bashing-om: me too :) then when i have dirty fingers (like with pizza) i sit there bouncing up and down until i wash my hands so i can type replies ;)
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> *drool pizza*
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> wow, anyone needs a new job?
[21:17] <lotuspsychje> http://www.canonical.com/careers/all-vacancies
[21:19] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, we all here can do this > https://ldd.tbe.taleo.net/ldd01/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=1016
[21:19] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Can you think of a problem that could be fixed by such a script but where that fix couldn't simply be applied automatically in Ubuntu by default?
[21:19] <OerHeks> "Technical Support Engineer - Weekend Support" grinn
[21:20] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: you want easy money :p
[21:24] <lotuspsychje> nite nite guys, cya all tomorrow
[22:02] <daftykins> odd these ones that muscle in and don't have a clue o0
[22:10] <Bashing-om> Yeah. ^ Then we have to exert our mental resources watching them that they do not "miss-direct" . Oh Well .. some peoples' children .
[22:12] <TJ-> Nice one Zyxel! Check WANs IPv4/IPv6 "Use as default gateway" and it ... doesn't. Uncheck it... it does!
[22:15] <Bashing-om> TJ-: I had taken note that you had some networking issue . Great you are on the path to resolution . even though it is not intuitive .
[22:16] <TJ-> LOL yeah you could say that. Been perfect for years, router seemed to reset its config overnight, and now it it simply changed network settings at 21:43 without a reboot or any indication; couldn't figure out why IRC had gone so quiet :D
[22:17] <daftykins> TJ-: oh you must've visited the 'backwards day' web admin
[22:17] <daftykins> :D
[22:17] <TJ-> LOL ... I reckon I should have stayed in bed today!
[22:18] <TJ-> started off badly, just kept on getting worse :)
[22:19] <daftykins> oh i meant opposite, no wonder that sounded wrong
[22:19] <daftykins> i'm forgetting english! D:
[22:20] <TJ-> did headphone sound person sort themselves out
[22:21] <daftykins> uuh no came back and asked what to file against
[22:21] <TJ-> !info libavcodec56
[22:21] <daftykins> < gnarlin> alright, more data. speaker-test did nothing. I played some music (no sound) went to the sound
[22:21] <daftykins> settings and selected headphones manually. Should I file this bug under alsa or pulseaudio?
[22:21] <TJ-> !info libavcodec56 wily
[22:22] <TJ-> !info libavcodec57 wily
[22:22] <TJ-> !info libavcodec58 wily
[22:22] <TJ-> Hmmm!
[22:22] <daftykins> it's hiding!
[22:22] <daftykins> that MSI guy is going to reinstall 14.04.3 tomorrow, but i don't know how well the 3.19 kernel will be on skylake
[22:23] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Have you had your appple pie today ? A slice-a-day keeps the blues away . Some avow does better than chocolate chip cookies .. NOT proven !
[22:24] <TJ-> For breakfast :)
[22:25] <daftykins> i'd like to conduct some testing on the above? to spare you all the bother...
[22:28] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Beats me then, what could possinly go wrong with the day at such a good start . // ^^ daftykins appreciation for chocolate chip cookies, maybe makes for a prime tester ?
[22:29] <daftykins> :D
[22:29] <TJ-> I think we should launch the ACPI-OS distro!
[22:30] <daftykins> i think i'll grab another mince pie and my book
[22:30] <daftykins> TJ-: sounds good :>
[22:30] <daftykins> i was going to suggest that guy try the usual acpi_backlight=vendor thing but i sense that might be useless this time?
[22:31] <TJ-> possibly that wouls work to correct things at boot-time
[22:31] <TJ-> I've seen a few of those systems that correctly re-init ACPI on resume, but not on a cold power boot
[22:32] <Bashing-om> ACPI, I just kick back and watch . It hurts slamming fingers in some one else's door .
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-uos-appdev
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[14:01] <kalikiana> o/
[14:02] * kalikiana preparing the hangout
[14:04] <mhall119> kalikiana: you're pretty early
[14:04] <kalikiana> am I?
[14:04] <kalikiana> I thought I was late
[14:04] <kalikiana> oh, haha, I guess it's in 1h
[14:05] <kalikiana> damn timezones
[14:05] <kalikiana> well, at least now I'm prepared :-]
[14:10] <clobrano> It started
[14:49] <kalikiana> for those who'd like to join: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcb-0t97d7TlgW2WNWF8jO5A8Wm-Tt7YwOE_GDhBDsStZC22A?hl=en-GB&authuser=0
[14:51] <kalikiana> popey: I can't seem to edit the session
[14:51] <popey> oh?
[14:51] <popey> what do you need me to do?
[14:52] <popey> added hangout url, what's the broadcast url?
[14:52] <kalikiana> this should be broadcast? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn1kktSDPvA
[14:54] <popey> kalikiana, yup, done
[14:54] <kalikiana> thanks!
[14:55] <popey> np
[15:01] <popey> works kalikiana
[15:04] <omgCATS> this is only QML right? i'm more interested in SDL
[15:05] <ksantacr> where i can find the slides
[15:10] <core_apps_police> The slide will be available to download?
[15:36] <santi_> QUESTION: Will this work across multiple platforms?
[15:37] <core_apps_police> QUESTION: The slide you used will be available to download?
[15:38] <kalikiana> popey: maybe you can help me find out how to upload the slides best
[15:39] <daker> QUESTION: what's max number of actions we can put on both sides ?
[15:39] <santi_> thank you!
[15:41] <gard> QUESTION: In the qt designer the ubuntu components are always marked red as in an error? any fix for that?
[15:42] <daker> QUESTION: what's the stats of RTL support in the SDK rightnow ?
[15:43] <daker> state*
[15:43] <kenvandine> maybe the uitk doesn't provide the plugin types file?
[15:43] <popey> kalikiana, can you share them?
[15:43] <popey> and then link in the etherpad?
[15:43] <zsombi> kenvandine: it does
[15:44] <zsombi> kenvandine: the types fiule must be loaded from teh right chroot, and that may not always work :(
[15:44] <kenvandine> it doesn't work even with the desktop kit though
[15:44] <zsombi> daker: UITK components do support RTL, all of them
[15:45] <zsombi> kenvandine: if you have the UITK installed on your desktop, it does autocomplete
[15:46] <zsombi> kenvandine: though sometimes it looses them all... QtC has hickups sometimes :)
[15:47] <zsombi> kalikiana: I have a bug + MR for that actually...
[15:48] <daker> zsombi: kalikiana thanks!
[15:49] <kalikiana> popey: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AdMcE4NI9svchurNgPk2UjBC5mf9VAgc8RoEVGc7cb4/edit
[15:51] <zsombi> daker: I saw you asked about the amount of ListItem leading/trailing actions
[15:51] <zsombi> daker: the API does not restrict the count, design recomments 1 in leading and max 3 in trailing
[15:51] <daker> zsombi: yeah, like if i define 3 on both side do i get 6 width right click ?
[15:52] <daker> 6 with*
[15:52] <zsombi> daker: yes
[15:55] <popey> nice one kalikiana
[15:58] <ahayzen> popey, vthompson, are we in here now ? :-)
[15:59] <vthompson> ahayzen: present! :)
[15:59] <ahayzen> \o/
[16:01] <popey> hmm
[16:01] <popey> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYf0bmOAQdxB9fBeG_d0ck8x1-DSfL1XlZ88Gfz7y8BXLJUg3w
[16:01] <ahayzen> \o/
[16:01] <popey> that should work for the music app session to join
[16:02] <vthompson> All who join will accept work items! :)
[16:56] <ahayzen> popey, vthompson, 'lunch' time!
[16:56] <vthompson> ahayzen: It is actually my lunch time :)
[16:56] <ahayzen> hah
[16:57] <vthompson> I would have assume this was your lunch time as well, consider how late you eat dinner :)
[16:57] <vthompson> *assumed *considering
[16:57] * vthompson needs food
[16:58] <ahayzen> vthompson, haha too true
[16:59] <popey> :)
[17:03] <thecoder15> hello everyonre
[17:03] <thecoder15> one
[17:11] <popey> hello
[18:00] * popey pokes ahayzen vthompson and James_Mulholland with https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYftKecTp-aWiVVWtYn4sHNcx-M503ukZR5t-dXWJQMsMr3ExA?hl=en&authuser=0
[18:00] <ahayzen> James_Mulholland, popey, vthompson, is it that time again?
[18:00] <popey> hah! beat ya
[18:00] <ahayzen> eh
[18:00] <James_Mulholland> o/
[18:02] <ahayzen> popey, http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-weather-app-planning
[18:02] <vthompson> popey: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-weather-app-planning
[18:31] <ahayzen> popey, vthompson is one of them https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1qJ4wzwHsHGNb7GDVjrarMUj4lyro-dLR2_4Xu1b5vQU/edit#slide=id.g37dfaf379_113
[18:31] <ahayzen> popey, vthompson, slide23 onwards in that one
[18:48] <thecoder15> hello
[18:50] <davidcalle> Invite link for anyone willing to join the hangout https://hangouts.google.com/call/jp2pklq57st7dftxcjxem45ceea
[18:51] <thecoder15> no it just started i think
[19:00] <vthompson> \o/ Later guys!
[19:00] <ahayzen> vthompson, \o/ later o/
[19:00] <davidcalle> vthompson, ahayzen, has your session finished?
[19:01] <ahayzen> davidcalle, yup :-) bang on 1900 sorry
[19:01] <davidcalle> ahayzen, no worries :)
[19:02] <davidcalle> The doc healthcheck will start in a short moment
[19:04] <davidcalle> Does anyone want to join the session?
[19:04] <davidcalle> https://hangouts.google.com/call/jp2pklq57st7dftxcjxem45ceea
[19:07] <davidcalle> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[19:09] <davidcalle> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-developer-documentation-healthcheck
[19:14] * balloons listens in
[19:15] <dpm> http://v-play.net/
[19:31] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Could you have community tutorials like Digital Ocean has? Ex: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials
[19:31] <CheeseBurg> That way its community made but intergrated to the developer site
[19:36] <balloons> yes, digital ocean is community generated
[19:37] <balloons> not all of them are great :-)
[19:43] <ahayzen> QUESTION: If i goto https://developer.ubuntu.com .. it takes me 4-5 clicks to get to http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/current/ ... can that be reduced?
[19:43] <ahayzen> Apps->QML->API->Stable/Developer
[19:44] <ahayzen> people always complain about content-hub lacking documentation
[19:44] <ahayzen> or examples
[19:47] <ahayzen> yeah the search defo needs improving i usually end up using http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/ if i can't find anything :-/
[19:48] <ahayzen> dpm, davidcalle, you using elasticsearch across the django models?
[19:50] * ahayzen tries to think what else he finds annoying
[19:52] <ahayzen> I think really, as you have already said, its about tutorials and examples (especially with alot of them currently being hidden/difficult to find)
[19:55] <namenick> hi
[19:55] <namenick> hoi
[19:55] <namenick> how do you know
[19:57] <balloons> hello
[19:57] <balloons> give all the items to popey :-)
[19:57] <ahayzen> #blamepopey
[19:57] <davidcalle> Done :)
[20:01] <ahayzen> thanks guys dpm davidcalle popey :-)
[20:01] <popey> that was fun
[20:02] <dpm> thanks ahayzen :)
[20:02] <dpm> and we're off for the day, good opening for UOS!
[20:03] <davidcalle> thanks ahayzen!
[20:04] <patriot> hey
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-quality
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[12:36] <balloons> Morning
[12:37] <flocculant> hi balloons
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.510340
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-uos-plenary
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[13:35] <jcole62> Yello!
[13:37] <swaveck> Greetings Ubuntu team and fans !
[13:43] <dpm> welcome everyone o/
[13:44] <dpm> all set for the opening plenary?
[13:44] <DanChapman> o/
[13:44] <Guest42341> am i late?
[13:44] <Guest42341> is it over yet? :(
[13:45] <DanChapman> Guest42341: not started yet :-)
[13:45] <DanChapman> ~15mins
[13:45] <Guest42341> phew :D
[13:45] <James_Mulholland> Hi DanChapman :)
[13:45] <James_Mulholland> Hi all!
[13:45] <Guest42341> sup
[13:45] <mhall119> hi everyone!
[13:45] <mhall119> o/
[13:45] <DanChapman> Hey James_Mulholland o/
[13:45] <Guest42341> who is this mark guy?
[13:45] <mhall119> just some guy who works at Canonical
[13:46] <Guest42341> i see
[13:46] <DanChapman> :-)
[13:46] <Ozzyboshi_> michael hall?
[13:46] <mhall119> no, I'm Michael Hall, Mark is someone else
[13:46] <Ozzyboshi_> mak shuttle
[13:46] * Guest42341 -14 min
[13:47] <Ozzyboshi_> to the take off?
[13:48] <Guest42341> to the lift off
[13:48] * Ozzyboshi_ slaps pietroalbini around a bit with a large fishbot
[13:48] <pietroalbini> uh?
[13:50] <Guest42341> omg my dog is chewing my balloons
[13:51] <popey> Is that an euphemism?
[13:51] <mhall119> I hope not, that sounds awful
[13:51] <swaveck> better than chewing some cats :)
[13:53] <balloons> everyone should have their own balloons. Just keep the dog away from them
[13:54] <Guest42341> oh LOL!!
[13:54] <Guest42341> balloons,
[13:55] <Ridgewing> Ola !
[13:55] <jcole62> OLAAAA
[13:55] <jcole62> from za!
[13:56] <cheerockie> Cześć, from PL!
[13:56] <Ridgewing> Is MShuttleworth doing his video , yet ?
[13:56] <jahdone> yo
[13:56] <Guest42341> he's at makeup
[13:56] <balloons> should begin in a bout 5 mins
[13:56] <jahdone> cool
[13:56] <Ridgewing> Awesome !
[13:57] <Ridgewing> Tell me when the video's live, cheers !
[13:57] <Sharif> where is everybody
[13:57] <jcole62> Go Mark go!
[13:57] <jcole62> im keen for dev apps next
[13:57] <Ridgewing> I'm scurrying 'round doing reddit posts ...
[13:57] <dpm> hi all, good to see more folks joining in :)
[13:58] <QUESTION> hi all
[13:58] <QUESTION> :D
[14:00] <AmarSingh> hi
[14:00] * olli waves
[14:01] <peter_muszynski> hi everyone
[14:01] * ogra_ taps foot
[14:01] <dholbach> go go go! :)
[14:01] <UBUFAN2K15> has started???
[14:01] <core_apps_police> 14:00 UTC, somebody is late ...
[14:01] <omgCATS> it's over
[14:01] <omgCATS> you are late
[14:01] <Pigia> :D
[14:01] <alecu> hello!
[14:01] <peter_muszynski> starting soooooon....
[14:01] <chris97pl> It should start now
[14:01] <UBUFAN2K15> omgCATS: oh okay thank you
[14:01] <UBUFAN2K15> sad i missed
[14:02] <omgCATS> UBUFAN2K15, i was joking! :D
[14:02] <sabdfl> hello all
[14:02] <tassos> Go go!
[14:02] <omgCATS> hi mark
[14:02] <omgCATS> sabdfl, are you still at the make up?
[14:02] <hancev> hello when is the keynote from now?
[14:02] <omgCATS> and live
[14:02] <mhall119> going live now
[14:04] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Hi Mark, I spend 3 or 4 hours a week doing the Q&A posts on reddit and ubuntu-discourse. I never get paid for these, but after recent surgery I realise that, sometimes, even if it's the reddit gold that I need to make 'posting easier' - I believe that I form an active contribution to the Ubuntu social experience. My Question is that I would wish to continue spending hours doing the posts but I need $30 to have
[14:04] <popey> #dd4814
[14:05] <ogra_> popey, thats the totally wrong colour :P
[14:05] <vitimiti> I'm in a really noisy place and I can barely hear it T_T
[14:06] <omgCATS> yeah the sound volume is a little bit low
[14:06] <mhall119> ogra_: dd4814 is correct: http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette
[14:06] <popey> or indeed, http://dd4814.com/ :)
[14:06] <kyrofa> Hmm... I apparently can't watch this without flash in firefox?
[14:07] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: continued #2: continue spending hours doing the posts but I need $30 to have reddit gold for a year. Would you seriously consider affording me that stipend - as I believe it is well worth it to the active community in reddit and Ubuntu discourse ? signed Nathan
[14:07] <ogra_> mhall119, but i want #77216f !
[14:07] <popey> Ridgewing, we have a process for applying for funds
[14:07] <popey> Ridgewing, http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/
[14:07] <mhall119> ogra_: why do you hate community? :)
[14:07] <Ridgewing> popey: Ok, thanks, - I'll latch onto that, cheers.
[14:08] <Ridgewing> popey: Can I do a different question, then ?
[14:08] <ogra_> mhall119, because i am canonical ! as usual :P
[14:08] <mhall119> Ridgewing: I'm not sure we're going to have time for Q&A, but if we do you're not limited to just one
[14:08] <mhall119> ogra_: you evil corporate overlord
[14:09] * ogra_ sends out the snappy skynet drones to mhall119
[14:09] * mhall119 is looking forward to watching all those Show & Tell sessions next week
[14:09] <hancev> man you should buy a real microphone
[14:09] <ogra_> (to fill up the GE fridge ... it called for it !)
[14:10] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Looking back at the 2013 Stallman video from Muktware where Ubuntu was refered to as SPYWARE by RMS, simply because you have to turn off the shopping lens option in the settings. My question is what does Mark think of that much refered to spat with Jono Bacon in 2013 (?), what does he feel about RM's views in general concerning Ubuntu (?) and, would a simple option to turn off this setting that could be "asked"
[14:10] <ogra_> Ridgewing, that option exists since3 2013
[14:10] <Ridgewing> QUESTION continued : .... Ubiquity to allay any fears the Libre software community has about this important issue (?)
[14:10] <mhall119> Ridgewing: it's all a moot point with the changes in Unity 8
[14:11] <ogra_> and yeah, what mhall119 said ...
[14:11] <ogra_> unity8 makes that moot
[14:11] <popey> (unity7 ships in 16.04 for years, so it's potentially moot, not yet moot)
[14:12] <ogra_> well, the config option exists for unity7
[14:12] <alecu> Enjoy the summit, and eat your vegetables!
[14:12] <vitimiti> Still, you can deactivate it in the settings
[14:12] * tsdgeos_web claps
[14:12] <mhall119> technical difficulties, please stand by
[14:12] <omgCATS> omg you've lost mark!!!
[14:12] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Slightly easier, this one. What input can the community have on "Suggesting extra products" for the Ubuntu store on the Ubuntu website ?
[14:12] <mhall119> omgCATS: well we know he's in Prague *somewhere*
[14:12] <omgCATS> :))
[14:12] <ogra_> dont yu have some intermittant music ?
[14:13] <cm-t> Ridgewing, i beleive the privacy issue was not about shopping lense but about every lens that fetch internet without getting noticed in home lense. Unity8 seems to work in a different way, you select a scope or a agregator scope
[14:13] <nhaines> ogra_: yes, but it's all in Ogg Vorbis format and nothing plays that. :)
[14:13] * Ridgewing sends out a search team to find Mark .......................
[14:13] <dholbach> ogra_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJkxFhFRFDA
[14:13] <skay> 200 Mark OK
[14:13] <rickspencer3> skay, lol
[14:13] <mhall119> cm-t: in theory it's about every remote content scope, in practice people only cared about Amazon
[14:13] * ogra_ slaps dholbach
[14:14] <Ridgewing> #crickets in-background
[14:14] <vitimiti> This is the first time I'm watching Mark live
[14:14] <cm-t> Mhall119, true
[14:14] <vitimiti> I actually like the Amazon scope
[14:15] <cm-t> mark wearing his movember stuff :)
[14:15] <mhall119> I like the wikipedia and github scopes
[14:15] <dragoscriste> hi
[14:15] <vitimiti> mhall119, those too
[14:15] <AsimRaza110> hello
[14:15] <Ridgewing> The video's a bit jerkey .
[14:16] <mhall119> and google drive scope, combined with local files scope
[14:16] <Ridgewing> Anyone else ?
[14:16] <vitimiti> mhall119, but if I try to install the github one, these are uninstalled on Unity7: ubuntu-desktop unity unity-scope-home unity-tweak-tool :I
[14:17] <omgCATS> old image LOL
[14:17] <mhall119> vitimiti: hmmm, that's not good, sounds like a package version conflict somewhere
[14:17] <omgCATS> ewww
[14:17] <vitimiti> mhall119, I'm on edge right now, but happened on stable, too, I don't know why, really
[14:17] <mhall119> vitimiti: you mean xenial/wily?
[14:17] <omgCATS> better
[14:17] <vitimiti> mhall119, yeah
[14:17] <mhall119> we don't have edge or stable
[14:18] <ogra_> convergence !!
[14:18] <vitimiti> I meant xenial, yes
[14:18] <mhall119> omgCATS: that's prettier isn't it :)
[14:18] <dpm> \o/
[14:18] <dholbach> yes yes yes
[14:18] <omgCATS> mhall119, yeah )
[14:18] <gangsar> hello. werewolf \m/
[14:18] <dholbach> if you have questions for Mark, bring them up and make sure you prefix them with QUESTION:
[14:18] <vitimiti> Convergence is looking so pretty already
[14:18] <popey> \o/ Daniel Wood
[14:18] <Ozzyboshi_> i think it would be better to ask the user if he wants explicitly to use amazon aggregator scope
[14:18] <nhaines> I am already looking forward to lunch after my session. :)
[14:19] <cm-t> i know that desktop :')
[14:19] <dpm> we're collecting the questions and Mark will be answering them after the keynote. So if you've got any, please remember to prepend them with QUESTION
[14:19] <vitimiti> QUESTION: is there any news on whether WhatsApp will arrive Ubuntu phone or not?
[14:19] <ogra_> vitimiti, up to whatsapp really
[14:19] <Ridgewing> Question: Would Canonical consider doing a "Fat-big Convergency party" for Ubuntu-users , in 2016, to err, converge ? Kinda like a UDS - but just a party for Ubuntuists !
[14:19] <vitimiti> I just need it because of my family
[14:19] <omgCATS> QUESTION: any plans for an ubuntu home router?
[14:20] <mhall119> Ridgewing: UbuCon in January out in California :)
[14:20] <nhaines> QUESTION: Are you happy with the pace of Ubuntu phone hardware development worldwide?
[14:20] <gangsar> hello
[14:20] <nhaines> Ridgewing: yes, Ubucon Summit in Pasadena California is going to be awesome, and you're invited too. :)
[14:20] <mhall119> Ridgewing: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22611/ubucon-summit-organization/
[14:20] <Ridgewing> mhall119: Here in Europe, we were all thinking about one in London.
[14:20] <vitimiti> I'd love so much to be able to attend one of those summits
[14:21] <nhaines> QUESTION: What's the next form factor for Ubuntu and why is it a smartwatch?
[14:21] <mhall119> Ridgewing: there's another UbuCon happening in Europe
[14:21] <mhall119> nhaines: :-P
[14:21] <cm-t> haha
[14:21] <Ridgewing> mhall119: Yeah ? Where ?
[14:21] <ogra_> Ridgewing, https://svij.org/blog/2015/06/05/announcing-ubucon-europe-2016/
[14:21] <nhaines> mhall119: I think he's the only one I haven't asked yet. :)
[14:21] <mhall119> ^ there
[14:21] <Ridgewing> ok, cheers.
[14:21] <cm-t> haha pebblebuntu, would love it :')
[14:22] * ogra_ tickles sturmflut with a snappy skynet antenna
[14:22] * balloons puts on tinfoil hat and hums quietly
[14:23] <omgCATS> QUESTION: any plans on bringing apps to home routers? i would like to install an irc server on my router from the store
[14:23] <Ridgewing> #Drones ! When do they get accepted into the postal service ?
[14:23] <vitimiti> omgCATS, that'd be woah
[14:23] <ogra_> omgCATS, yes, snappy brings that feature
[14:23] <dobey> omgCATS: put an irc server in the store, and install it, then :)
[14:23] <ogra_> omgCATS, https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/+snap/ircproxy
[14:23] <omgCATS> :))
[14:23] <vitimiti> Nice
[14:23] <ogra_> ;)
[14:23] <l_ukasz> [QUESTION] Ubuntu convergence, Mir/Wayland, containers - Ubuntu 16.04 or later?
[14:23] <omgCATS> noice
[14:24] <mhall119> l_ukasz: that's not really a question
[14:24] <dobey> "+snap" ?
[14:24] <Ridgewing> ogra_: Is ubuntucon.eu your website, then ?
[14:24] <nhaines> l_ukasz: those are already in Ubuntu now. \o/
[14:24] <ogra_> dobey, yeah ... LP builds your snaps now :)
[14:24] <ogra_> Ridgewing, nope
[14:24] <Ridgewing> k
[14:24] <nhaines> Snappy is a pretty awesome idea.
[14:25] <dobey> ogra_: neat. too bad phone isn't snaps yet
[14:25] <AmarSingh> QUESTION: Can we expect any more Ubuntu devices on the market soon (phones, tablets etc)?
[14:25] <ogra_> dobey, bright is the future !
[14:25] <dobey> good thing i have these joo janta 200 super-chromatic peril-sensitive sunglasses
[14:26] <l_ukasz> nhaines: I mean on relatively stable solution for the end user set by default.
[14:28] <Ridgewing> Snapcraft is the new packaging tool, then COOL.
[14:29] <ogra_> it is and it is awesome :)
[14:29] <core_apps_police> where we can discuss the chromium or firefox for the next LTS?
[14:30] <mhall119> core_apps_police: #ubuntu-desktop or their mailinglist, the discussion is already started I think
[14:30] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Shall Mark be using a Mycroft IOT home-hub in his Isle of Man house ?
[14:30] <l_ukasz> core_apps_police: I never understood these discussions. It seems to me that Firefox is a good option as the default browser. You can always install another.
[14:31] <vitimiti> Firefox seems to behave better with my RAM, that's for sure, so I'm staying with it whether the default is FF or Chromium
[14:31] <mhall119> l_ukasz: default app selection is always being re-evaluated
[14:31] <dobey> webbrowser-app is the new default browser
[14:31] <l_ukasz> vitimiti: +1
[14:31] <Yahn> dobey: for desktop Ubuntu
[14:31] <Yahn> ?
[14:32] <vitimiti> I'd love to use webbrowser-app but I'm still missing extensions (specifically ad block) and being able to download files without needing another browser
[14:32] <dobey> i'm pretty sure it'll be the default for Ubuntu Personal
[14:32] <mhall119> dobey: you're stirring up trouble now :)
[14:32] <dobey> heh
[14:32] <mhall119> vitimiti: downloading files is indeed a big obstacle with the current webbrowser-app
[14:32] <justCarakas> QUESTION aren't you scared mycrosoft will steal ubuntu's thunder with continium
[14:32] <vitimiti> mhall119, yeah, I could bare not having ad block, but the download...
[14:33] <mhall119> vitimiti: I also miss view source
[14:33] <Ridgewing> what's continium ?
[14:33] <ogra_> justCarakas, they copy us ! thats the biggest honor they can give us ;)
[14:33] <dobey> i couldn't deal with not having ad blocking
[14:33] <mhall119> Ridgewing: it's Microsoft's implementation of convergence
[14:33] <vitimiti> mhall119, oh, yeah, that's important for some people
[14:33] <dobey> downloading, i can use wget if i need to
[14:33] <Ridgewing> oh ok , that's a baddie thing !
[14:33] <mhall119> dobey: yeah, but that requires a copy/paste and window switch
[14:34] <vitimiti> dobey, yeah, me too, but I'm not very good at using it and I end up using FF for downloads
[14:34] <ogra_> Ridgewing, nah, it isnt, it just proves that our ideas are right :)
[14:34] <jcole62> anywhere where i can watch this after live?
[14:34] <dobey> mhall119: well, that's nowhere near as bad as what's required to block ads in webbrowser-app :)
[14:34] <AmarSingh> it'll be on the ubuntu on air youtube channel I think
[14:34] <Yahn> jcole62, it'll be on the youtube channel
[14:34] <mhall119> jcole62: same place, the live video will be replaced by a normal youtube embeded video
[14:34] <dobey> jcole62: the same youtube url where it's live
[14:34] <nhaines> jcole62: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru6cQMEt52s
[14:34] <Yahn> where you're watching it now
[14:34] <ogra_> jcole62, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru6cQMEt52s should have it
[14:34] <jcole62> Thanks @mhall119
[14:34] <jcole62> thanks guys
[14:34] <jcole62> cheers
[14:35] <vitimiti> Hahaha, massive answer
[14:35] <dobey> same for all the session videos. the live url is the same as the post-watching url
[14:35] * omgCATS waiting the phone updates
[14:35] <mhall119> yup, everything on summit.ubuntu.com will be available to re-watch later
[14:37] <Ridgewing> he's lost me now . LXD ? what is that - a Lexus ?
[14:37] <Yahn> most of this is over my head
[14:37] <nhaines> mhall119: for only $9.99 pay-per-view right?
[14:37] <mhall119> Ridgewing: it's a control daemon for LXC (Linux Containers)
[14:37] <Yahn> Ridgewing: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/lxd
[14:37] <mhall119> nhaines: I can get it to you for $4.99 ;)
[14:37] <balloons> It's lowe overhead virtualization
[14:37] <kyrofa> Ridgewing, allows for lxc container migration in openstack, etc.
[14:37] <Ridgewing> ok, thanks.
[14:38] <mhall119> \o/ Community Council
[14:38] * mhall119 hugs them all
[14:38] <popey> woah!
[14:38] <Yahn> will Mark be doing a Q&A?
[14:38] <popey> That's rather nice of him to say.
[14:39] <AmarSingh> yeah i think so
[14:39] <Yahn> AmarSingh, same format as the regular Ubuntu-on-Air? ie QUESTION:
[14:40] <AmarSingh> yeah, a few people have asked questions already, myself included ;)
[14:40] <AmarSingh> same format
[14:40] <vitimiti> QUESTION: Are there any plans on recovering the Ubuntu One cloud? I liked it a lot
[14:40] <Shankey> Canonical when we will see 4g ubuntu phones in india??
[14:41] * Ridgewing shudders as he realises who's re-iterating the Questions.
[14:41] <dobey> vitimiti: no, the cloud storage isn't coming back
[14:41] <vitimiti> Aw, thank you
[14:41] <Yahn> vitimiti: I think the infrastructure still exists. My guess is if/when Ubuntu on devices takes off then we'll see a return
[14:41] <dobey> Shankey: i don't know which phone is in india, or what the frequenecies are there, but the meizu mx4 has 4g i think
[14:42] <omgCATS> QUESTION: any ubuntu phone news?
[14:42] <Yahn> doeby, the Meizu is not being sold anymore
[14:42] <dobey> vitimiti: the server was open sourced, and you can take it and run it yourself
[14:42] <Ridgewing> sabdfl: Good video - I'm from the Isle of Man opening an OpenSource-suite in an IOM-gov-run-community-center. We'd love you to come and open it when your next on the Island ?
[14:43] <vitimiti> dobey, thank you, but I can barely run FF with 5 tabs open already on this notebook
[14:43] <Shankey> i know meizu mx4 is in india..but its only avaliable with android OS i need ubuntu edition. the whole users are waitng for ubuntu phone in india
[14:43] <Ridgewing> QUESTION: Lets get down to basics - WHEN is the Ubuntu convergence phone aiming for delivery ?
[14:44] <mhall119> Shankey: the Ubuntu edition was probably available to ship to India, before they sold out
[14:44] <kyrofa> vitimiti, yeah you need a server :)
[14:44] <kyrofa> vitimiti, ownCloud is an option as well
[14:45] <vitimiti> kyrofa, yeah, I don't have anything but a small, cheap notebook
[14:46] <Yahn> QUESTION: Aside from convergence, what are some of the key differentiators between Ubuntu on phones and the competition (iOS, Android) for your average consumer?
[14:46] <Shankey> If anyone here is associated with canonical or in touch with there developers please pass on this message to them "please bring ubuntu phone to india" i dont want android at all
[14:46] <Yahn> Shankey, Ubuntu phones are already sold in India through snapdeal.com
[14:46] <mhall119> Shankey: Bq phones are available in India
[14:46] <dobey> exactly
[14:47] <nhaines> I wish that rms would stop being right about basically everything.
[14:47] <vitimiti> He isn't right about something, he forgets part of freedom is choice, and I like Steam
[14:47] <clr> QUESTION: How long before we see a functional desktop on Snappy with all the basic desktop apps
[14:48] <jcastro> o/
[14:48] <Shankey> That BQ aquaris is Ok But its hardware is not upto the mark atleast there should be 4g support..because 4g android phones are cheaper than ubuntu phones...
[14:48] <mariogrip> QUESTION: What do you think about the Ubports project?
[14:48] <mhall119> a secure, app-enabled home router would be awesome
[14:48] <dobey> Shankey: tell your provider you want ubuntu
[14:48] <nhaines> QUESTION: Will Ubuntu Personal enable a desktop Ubuntu experience on a device like a Raspberry Pi Model 2?
[14:48] <nhaines> jcastro: good morning!
[14:48] <Ridgewing> lost the video, very jerkey ....
[14:49] <Ridgewing> rickspencer3: HI Rick are you there ?
[14:49] <nhaines> I would totally be happy with an OpenWRT-style snappy router. :)
[14:49] <nhaines> I would like a nethack snap.
[14:49] * ogra_ would prefer a ufw snap router :)
[14:50] <Shankey> providers are giving more stress on android..thats the main issue
[14:50] <dobey> nhaines: build one ;)
[14:50] <nhaines> dobey: I'm the last person that anybody wants to build a router. ;)
[14:50] <Ridgewing> rickspencer3: ping
[14:50] <dobey> Shankey: canonical doesn't build hardware. tell your provider and handset makers that you want ubuntu. tell your friends to do the same.
[14:51] <mariogrip> QUESTION: What is ubuntu touch strategy/plans to fix the "users needs app and apps need users" problem?
[14:52] <Yahn> QUESTION: Will we see a refreshed icon theme for 16.04 & Unity 7?
[14:52] <bmullan> question - status Xenial of LXD and running openstack and openstack payloads all in LXC
[14:52] <Shankey> my whole friends circle wants ubuntu...im so eager for ubuntu phones that am not even buying any phone just cz im waiting for ubuntu phone with good hardware specs by BQ or meizu
[14:52] <mhall119> multitasking on Ubuntu phone is far better than Android, IMO
[14:52] <kenvandine> mhall119, it really is
[14:52] <dobey> privacy is certainly better on ubuntu than on android
[14:52] <Ridgewing> bmullan: Ask QYESTION, in caps ... do nit again , but only have 10 mins left I think.
[14:52] <Shankey> but there is no response from them..reguarding this
[14:53] <AmarSingh> I'd love to see Unity 7 refreshed with Unity 8-like icons and themes
[14:53] <bmullan> QUESTION - status Xenial of LXD and running openstack and openstack payloads all in LXC
[14:53] <vitimiti> Shankey, http://www.snapdeal.com/products/mobiles-mobile-phones/filters/Form_s~Smartphones?sort=plrty&q=Form_s%3ASmartphones%7COperatingSystem_s%3AUbuntu%7C
[14:53] <skay> I would love a tablet
[14:53] <Yahn> Joey from OMG! Ubuntu! mentioned that we might see a new icon set land for 16.04
[14:53] <vitimiti> So would I, skay
[14:54] <ogra_> QUESTION: will we ship lxc and lxd by default everywhere in 16.04 ?
[14:54] <skay> I have one that is too old for me to install ubuntu on
[14:54] <mhall119> udsbotu is working \o/ thanks Pici
[14:54] <udsbotu> mhall119: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:54] * omgCATS slap udsbotu
[14:54] <ogra_> we really need to hook these IRC bots into mycroft to make them cleverer ;)
[14:55] <mhall119> omgCATS: don't provoke the bots
[14:55] <omgCATS> :)
[14:55] <Shankey> @vitimiti - i Know that but its hardware is not well atleast it should have 4g...cz i have to do one time investment
[14:55] <Yahn> Shankey, a BQ phone designed for Ubuntu convergence is due to be announced early next year
[14:56] <mhall119> if you don't get your questions answered here, join any relevant sessions going on this week and ask them there
[14:56] <mhall119> also don't forget that we have Jane Silber's Q&A at 1700 UTC tomorrow
[14:56] <Ridgewing> sabdfl: "Classy revolution" ... that sounds sassy.
[14:57] <vitimiti> mhall119, did he answer about WhatsApp? I think I missed it completely
[14:57] <vitimiti> If he did*
[14:57] <mhall119> vitimiti: yes
[14:57] <dobey> vitimiti: whatsapp coming to ubuntu is up to whatsapp, not ubuntu. same answer as always :)
[14:57] <Shankey> @yahn- what!!!! are you serious??....plz plz plz tell me its a brand new smartphone what are its specs??
[14:57] <yoann54> will the mx4 still get updates ? i mean cauz it seems to be abandoned project by meizu
[14:57] <nhaines> Shankey: it will be announced by BQ next year.
[14:57] <tedg> We need T-shirts. Marx: Class Revolution, Mark: Classy Revolution
[14:57] <vitimiti> dobey, ah, I didn't hear. I was hoping some news, thanks
[14:57] <AmarSingh> There's no news on the specs yet
[14:57] <nhaines> tedg: +1
[14:57] <mhall119> yoann54: not abandoned, just replaced by a new model
[14:57] <Yahn> Shankey, no specs or any details at this stage. Announcement hopefully sometime early next year
[14:57] <Ridgewing> He needs to answer the question about the convergence phone delivery.
[14:58] <Ridgewing> i.e. the date.
[14:58] <ogra_> Ridgewing, "soon"
[14:58] <mhall119> Ridgewing: device dates will be announced by the OEM, not by us
[14:58] <nhaines> Ridgewing: November 18th gives a pretty good start to it.
[14:58] <Ridgewing> that's not good enough.
[14:58] <yoann54> a new model from meizu ?
[14:58] <nhaines> Ridgewing: that's how all cell phones work.
[14:58] <ogra_> Ridgewing, but thats the reality :)
[14:59] <Shankey> @yahn- my waiting is extended
[14:59] <nhaines> Although that reminds me that I need to harass the design team about getting the FCS wallpapers into the phone. :)
[14:59] <ogra_> Ridgewing, if both parties are pleased with the quality (oem as well as canonical) ... if you find that better to understand :)
[14:59] <Ridgewing> nhaines: But it's "our" phone !
[14:59] <ogra_> Ridgewing, no, we only make the SW
[14:59] <yoann54> is nexus 4 the best quality/price device to try ubuntu touch ?
[14:59] <divyesshyo> i want to know what are ubuntu's plan for mycroft
[14:59] <ogra_> \o/
[15:00] <AmarSingh> Mycroft has a show and tell on thursday I think
[15:00] <ogra_> yippie !
[15:00] <mhall119> yoann54: if you're in North America, yes
[15:00] <Yahn> nhaines, what are FCS wallpapers?
[15:00] <nhaines> yoann54: only if you can't get ahold of a retail phone with Ubuntu preinstalled.
[15:00] <dobey> yoann54: in the US, probahbly yes. in EU it's probably better to buy an official BQ device
[15:00] <cm-t> Thanks you !
[15:00] <yoann54> why north america ?
[15:00] <divyesshyo> and h in there any new ubuntu phone under development
[15:00] <who_me> Thank you Mark.
[15:00] <wililupy> Thank you Mark.
[15:00] <nhaines> Yahn: the alternate default wallpapers availble in Ubuntu 15.10 as part of the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase submissions.
[15:00] <ksantacr> thank yous
[15:00] <AmarSingh> Thanks all
[15:00] <Ridgewing> yoann54: Think it is ! https://swappa.com/buy/nexus-4-unlocked
[15:00] <vitimiti> Thank you, guys
[15:00] <Yahn> nhaines, ah thanks
[15:01] <dholbach> nice one!
[15:01] <rickspencer3> thanks dpm
[15:01] <mhall119> yoann54: because the Bq and Meizu phones aren't available here
[15:01] <dpm> rickspencer3, \o/
[15:01] <dpm> thanks everyone for joining and the great questions!
[15:01] <divyesshyo> ya in india bq isn't available
[15:01] <yoann54> but nexus 4 has better specs
[15:01] <Yahn> argh I wish I had time to prepare some better questions
[15:01] <nhaines> Thanks dpm, mhall119, and sabdfl for the opening keynote. :)
[15:01] <sabdfl> Ridgewing, sure, contact [email protected]
[15:01] <sabdfl> cheers all
[15:01] <sabdfl> have a great week
[15:01] <dholbach> davidcalle, http://ubuntu.snapdeal.com/
[15:02] <dholbach> davidcalle, oops
[15:02] <dholbach> divyesshyo, http://ubuntu.snapdeal.com/
[15:02] <Ridgewing> sabdfl: great video ! cheers for the reply.
[15:02] <dpm> nhaines, yw, see you later on on your session :)
[15:02] <nhaines> dpm: yay! :)
[15:02] <mhall119> btw, everybody please register at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/registration/ so we know how many folks are attending this online session
[15:02] <mhall119> that will also allow you to mark any sessions you want to attend, and give you a personal schedule of them
[15:02] <Yahn> so are we now on to App & Scope development?
[15:02] <divyesshyo> sorry i mean to say meizu is not available in india i need meizu mx4 in india
[15:03] <davidcalle> Yahn, in #ubuntu-uos-appdev, yes
[15:03] <mhall119> divyesshyo: I don't think the MX4 is available anywhere anymore
[15:03] <Yahn> divyesshyo, the MX4 isn't being sold anywhere anymore
[15:03] <Yahn> snap mhall119
[15:04] <Shankey> thanx all
[15:05] <pavakpaul> isn't it the time for Ubuntu-on-air?
[15:05] <Shankey> nope
[15:05] <Shankey> mark had left
[15:05] <Shankey> you are 1 hour late approx.
[15:06] <pavakpaul> I am asking about the QA thing which starts this time every time
[15:07] <Ridgewing> Can someone direct me to the commmunity session, that is going on right now , please on youtube ?
[15:07] <Yahn> pavakpaul, I don't think it's happening given that the online summit is on
[15:07] <omgCATS> pavakpaul, check the shedule http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/2015-11-03/
[15:07] <pavakpaul> ahh i see
[15:07] <pavakpaul> thanks :)
[15:07] <nhaines> pavakpaul: check the schedule for this week here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/
[15:07] <nhaines> omgCATS: you beat me to it. :)
[15:07] <omgCATS> :D
[15:08] <pavakpaul> I wasn't around here last 2 weeks so...
[15:08] <Shankey> so meizu mx4 is not avaliable to purchase anymore??
[15:08] <pavakpaul> didn't know
[15:08] <Yahn> Shankey, no
[15:08] <omgCATS> 18:00 - 18:55 UTC Community Team Q&A ( Community )
[15:08] <pavakpaul> Shankey: not at the moment
[15:08] <Shankey> @yahn-bad news for us
[15:09] <Yahn> Shankey, I'm more interested in a phone designed from the ground up for Ubuntu
[15:09] <Yahn> so hopefully the upcoming BQ device
[15:09] <Shankey> i want ubuntu phone atleast which has 4g support thats it...i dont want any type of crappy whatsapp or any other app...just want ubuntu
[15:10] <Yahn> Shankey, would you really need the speed that 4G offers if you don't have any applications to use it with?
[15:11] <Shankey> yes i need it i know that alteast common apps will be avaliable...and i dont care of whatsapp
[15:12] <Shankey> its all upto facebook whethr dey want to make it or not and im too much eager that if i meet mark shuttleworth i will convince him to launch high end ubuntu phones in india
[15:13] <Yahn> Shankey, there aren't any high end Ubuntu phones anywhere, let alone India. At this stage it's just a waiting game
[15:14] <Shankey> in Europe and china mx4 had hit flash sales but not in our country
[15:14] <Shankey> canonical should know that india is 2nd biggest market for smartphones
[15:15] <nhaines> Shankey: Canonical doesn't produce hardware.
[15:16] <Yahn> Shankey, we're talking about a platform that is marketed for early adopters. It's still very early days
[15:17] <Shankey> but atleast they can give suggestions to the providers or else they can look for more smartphones providers
[15:18] <Shankey> Both BQ and meizu are not taking care about ubuntu phones
[15:18] <Yahn> Shankey, all of that happens behind closed doors. We have no idea who they are/aren't talking to
[15:18] <Shankey> atleast they should have lauched other smartphones of ubuntu
[15:18] <Yahn> Shankey, sure with unlimited money and manpower
[15:18] <Yahn> but it's not like that
[15:19] <Yahn> 3 devices in one year for a platform in it's infancy is a good start
[15:19] <Yahn> I agree that the BQ hardware available doesn't really get the blood pumping
[15:20] <Yahn> but it's more than a case of clicking your fingers and making high end hardware appear
[15:21] <Shankey> yeah it is but i wish that developers can go through this IRC so that they will be came to know tha how eager we are for ubuntu phones
[15:21] <Shankey> only we can do is "finger crossed"
[15:21] <Yahn> Shankey, I feel the same way. I want a flagship Ubuntu phone
[15:21] <Yahn> the Ubuntu Edge was a dream come true
[15:22] <Yahn> shame it didn't make it
[15:22] <Shankey> yeah ubuntu edge 4 gb of ram OMG!!!...what a phone that was
[15:23] <Yahn> I wonder how far it went through prototyping
[15:23] <Shankey> http://techfrag.com/2015/10/10/ubuntu-touch-almost-ready-oneplus-one-heading-soon-oneplus-2/ look this oneplus phones will have ubuntu OS
[15:23] <Yahn> I want an official device though. I don't want to rely solely on a community build
[15:23] <Shankey> that will definitly come if canonical generate money for maufacturing
[15:23] <Yahn> I tried to flash Ubuntu on my OnePlus One and it was not a great experience
[15:24] <Shankey> One plus is community build??
[15:24] <Yahn> yeah let me find the link
[15:24] <Yahn> https://wiki.ubports.com/w/OnePlus_One
[15:24] <Shankey> damn!!! now this disappoints me
[15:24] <Yahn> is the OnePlus One popular in India?
[15:25] <Yahn> When I was over there I ended buying a cheap MicroMax emergency phone
[15:25] <Yahn> I have no idea what OS it ran. It wasn't Android
[15:25] <Yahn> this was about 6 years ago now
[15:27] <Shankey> TO an extend...But poplular phones are samsung micromax and xiaomi...people buys android phones in india because they are cheap in price
[15:28] <Shankey> and one most special reason to buy android is to join whatsapp
[15:29] <Yahn> what about iPhones?
[15:29] <Yahn> too expensive?
[15:29] <Shankey> yup its too expensive
[15:29] <Yahn> too expensive everywhere IMO
[15:30] <Shankey> i phone 6s current price is 65000/INR approx...and same quality android phones are 8000/ with 4g support
[15:30] <Shankey> who wants iphone it sucks
[15:30] <Yahn> well they're nice devices but far too expensive
[15:31] <Shankey> yes
[15:31] <Yahn> is that price for the cheapest 6S btw?
[15:31] <Shankey> yup
[15:31] <Shankey> also depends on internel memory size
[15:31] <Shankey> i hate apple cz
[15:32] <Shankey> no downloading at all....bluetooth supported only to apple
[15:32] <Shankey> ....no songs support from extra source
[15:32] <Yahn> that same model is 57867 INR here
[15:32] <Yahn> you can copy music on to an iPhone
[15:32] <Yahn> even without iTunes
[15:32] <Shankey> yup for that we need to sync to itunes
[15:33] <Yahn> you can do it with Ubuntu I'm pretty sure
[15:33] <Yahn> it's been a long time since I've used iOS & Ubuntu together
[15:33] <Yahn> you're right in saying iOS is restrictive though
[15:33] <Yahn> something simple as adding a custom ringtone was a nightmare for such a long time
[15:33] <Yahn> such basic functionality
[15:34] <Shankey> we both hope that ubuntu phones would be in our hands soon
[15:34] <Shankey> so that we can do anything d way we want
[15:34] <Yahn> 2016 will hopefully be an interesting year
[15:34] <Shankey> yup may be
[15:35] <Shankey> and thanx a lot for giving me such a precious time
[15:35] <Shankey> it was nice talking to all users specially you thanx alot
[15:35] <Yahn> alavidā
[15:49] <frecel> popey: how is it that generally speaking people on official ubuntu hangouts have significantly worst mics than the average person on jb mumble?
[15:54] <popey> hah
[15:56] <TJ-> Why was it the live feed for Firefox 41.0.2 on 15.10 reported 'no suitable codec' but the recorded video is fine? (HTML5/Video enabled) ?
[15:56] <who_me> TJ-, missing Flash perhaps?
[15:57] <who_me> TJ-, livestreams use flash
[15:57] <TJ-> Flash? In this day and age!?
[15:57] <vitimiti> Yes
[15:59] <TJ-> That seems like a very poor choice.
[16:00] <who_me> Can you point us to a stream using just HTML5 TJ- ?
[16:01] <who_me> I've yet to see one and it's not like the major browsers flock to support HLS either
[16:01] <TJ-> who_me: The recorded video of the plenary is delivered over HTMl5/Video but the Live was unavailable; Youtube reported missing codec, but said nothing about requiring FLash
[16:01] <frecel> you can probably open the stream in vlc
[16:02] <who_me> TJ-, might've not said it, but for me it flashed the warning and the went to flash
[16:14] <nhaines> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase
[16:16] <dragonbite> REPORT: The box for logging in to join the IRC via the browser is too small to display the captcha images AND the part that tells you what to click on. I had to guess from the collection of pictures what it was wanting me to click on.
[16:28] <jose> dragonbite: mind reporting it on #ubuntu-website? I'll follow up with you there
[16:39] <frecel> Are people actually rating all their music?
[16:39] <frecel> I've never used that
[17:03] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Where has Ubuntu enjoyed the greatest adoption rate? e.g. Asia? Europe? India? USA? South America? Has this adoption been as expected, better or worse?
[17:09] <who_me> TJ-, I looked more into the issue. YT does indeed use DASH for streaming but FF 41 (and older) seem to support it fully. On FF41, visiting YT Gaming and choosing a live stream gives me the flash player. On firefox-trunk (aka nightly) I get the HTML5 player and all the various resolution options like 720p60, 1080p60...
[17:09] <dragonbite> QUESTION: Any other announcements like Microsoft using Ubuntu for their Linux-based Azure offering?
[17:10] <who_me> seem not to*
[17:11] <TJ-> who_me: thanks for testing. I disabled firefox-trunk after the 15.10 move; I had it with 14.04. That may explain why :)
[17:12] <mhall119> dragonbite: the keynote has ended
[18:35] <hwpplayer1> test
[18:37] <ogra_> failed
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[01:08] <sunshine_dlp> 嗨
[01:24] <^k^> 新 课堂教学和培训 • 初用Ubuntu，菜鸟求解救 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473655 Ubuntu15.10，开始还好好的，昨天就出问题，软件中心下载软件总是提示不能信任的软件包，下载失败，这样弄几次后连浏览器也不能用了，只能重启，重启后可以正常上网，但软件中心依然还是不
[01:24] <^k^> ─> 能用，求指教，谢谢 zz: haomingranggouqi — 2015-11-03 8:59
[01:59] <arkpencil> 只有进进出出的记录，没有什么聊天的东西
[01:59] <MoYahoo> 嗯哼
[01:59] <arkpencil> 在IRC里面能不能去掉系统提示的东西。就是这些进出记录啊。怎么可以不用看这些
[02:00] <gfxmode> arkpencil: 可以，需要IRC客户端设置
[02:00] <arkpencil> freenode的webirc呢？
[02:01] <FranX> 用weechat吧
[02:01] <FranX> 自己配置
[02:01] <FranX> 自己写脚本屏蔽就行了
[02:03] * arkpencil slaps FranX around a bit with a large fishbot
[02:25] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[02:27] * onlylove_ 怎么突然就觉得那么累
[02:29] <onlylove_> 好久没有这种感觉了，也许我该辞职了
[03:00] <^k^> 新 Vim和Emacs • 大家来谈谈neovim呗 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473656 如题 zz: noble_out — 2015-11-03 10:59
[03:22] <FranX> tmux还是搞不定啊
[03:23] <FranX> w3m怎么跳到正文啊
[03:25] <pity> FranX: tmux 哪里搞不定？
[03:40] <onlylove_> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46022
[03:40] <onlylove_> 简直了，到底怎么回事
[03:40] <onlylove_> test
[03:40] <onlylove_> 傻K又傻了
[03:42] <ubrl> onlylove_:点点点. 11:44
[03:45] <FranX> pity: 在OSX里快捷键不同啊
[03:49] <pity> FranX: 详细点儿？
[03:58] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ubuntu15.10 内存问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473657 安装的是64位系统，物理内存为6G，在系统只识别了4G，这是什么原因啊？ zz: quanwp — 2015-11-03 11:57
[04:11] * onlylove_ 求新工作，先休息一个月
[04:14] <gfxmode_> ................................
[04:16] <cherrot> 升级了OSX 输入法好用多了
[04:39] <onlylove_> cherrot: 萌萌哒还不赶紧换windows
[04:55] <cherrot> onlylove_ 为啥
[04:55] <cherrot> onlylove_ 有个win7打lol
[05:40] <^k^> 新 因特网相关软件 • XChat的服务器设置 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473661 初次玩IRC，客户端选择的是XChat。服务器始终连不上。 Code: * Looking up irc.freenode.net * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (91.217.189.44) port 6667... * Connection failed. Error: Network is unreachable Cycling to next server in FreeNode...
[05:40] <^k^> ─> * Disconnected (). * Looking up irc.freenode.net * Connecting to chat.freenode.net (84.240.3.129) port 6667... * Conn …
[06:10] <FranX> 有人玩nethack吗
[06:11] <FranX> 大家都在哪个区啊？
[06:12] <ulot0> 不知uthp
[06:12] <ulot0> 道
[06:12] <ulot0> 你有多黑呀？
[07:43] <ulot0> gfxmode,
[07:44] <ulot0> gfxmode, 你收藏夹放这么多东西准备双11买吗？
[07:45] <onlylove> happyaron: 冲击钻有没，借我个，我装ap去……
[07:45] <happyaron> onlylove: 没有
[07:46] <gebjgd> onlylove, 打眼弱爆了 现在讲究的是无眼安装
[07:46] <gfxmode> ulot0: ？？？
[07:46] <onlylove> happyaron: 我那天蛋疼的发了个吸顶的ap过去，然后，没然后了，那货定向天线，必须装屋顶上
[07:46] <onlylove> gebjgd: 我TM倒是想直接丢天花板上，可惜丫的没有天花板
[07:47] <ulot0> 你们在一起啊？
[07:47] <happyaron> onlylove: 赞赞哒
[07:47] <onlylove> happyaron: 我今天得想下怎么说服让他退了换桌面ap
[07:47] <gebjgd> onlylove, 什么是天花板？
[07:47] <gfxmode> ceil()、floor()
[07:49] <onlylove__> gfxmode: ceil吧 我不记得floor有天花板的意思
[07:49] <gfxmode> gebjgd: 大佬，您现在刚起床么？
[07:50] <gebjgd> gfxmode, 刚上班
[07:50] <cherrot> ceiling and flore
[07:51] * yurakucho 想下班, 但是东西还没下载完
[07:51] <onlylove__> yurakucho: 岛国小电影？
[07:51] <yurakucho> 天下足球
[07:52] <gebjgd> yurakucho, 你能不改名了么
[07:52] <yurakucho> gebjgd: 人在江湖身不由己
[07:52] <gfxmode> yunfan: 云下载
[07:52] <gebjgd> yurakucho, ....
[07:53] <gebjgd> yurakucho, aria2c下载百度云的东西速度奇快
[07:53] <gfxmode> yurakucho: 云下载。
[07:53] <yurakucho> gebjgd: 你人在国外用百度云是什么精神?
[07:54] <cherrot> gebjgd, 怎么不用mega
[07:55] <gebjgd> yurakucho, 下载盗版游戏啊
[07:55] <gebjgd> yurakucho, 盗版音乐
[07:55] <onlylove__> yurakucho: 百度云有盗版，德国搞盗版是犯法的
[07:55] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 如何成为一个Ubuntu开发者？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473662 近年来，Canonical http://cn.ubuntu.com/about 的Ubuntu在中国频频亮相，产品横跨智能手机界，个人电脑系统和企业云技术服务，未来更是瞄准了智能物联，可以预见一个平台适用于多个终端不再遥
[07:55] <^k^> ─> 远。 2013年，Canonical公司，中国工业和信息化部软件与集成电路促进中心（CSIP）以及国防 …
[07:57] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 不过你的收入买个正版游戏应该不困难吧，不像这里面的，吃饭都困难
[07:57] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 问题我游戏向来就是玩5分钟
[07:57] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 没有买的鼻炎
[07:57] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 没有买的必要
[07:57] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 而且我有孩子和老婆要养
[07:58] <onlylove__> 那你玩demo好了
[07:58] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 没有demo
[07:59] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 你看你还养得起老婆，你问问这里面其他人，不是单身的，哪个不是和媳妇一起赚钱讨生活
[08:00] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 所以你们花钱无度啊
[08:00] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 花钱无度？呵呵，你得看赚多少好么
[08:00] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 你再看看房价多少好么
[08:00] <nyfair> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=473651&p=3147568#p3147568 每次看到这种帖子都想骂
[08:01] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Ubuntu-MATE15.10安装mplayer_1.1.1+20150226+svn37375-dmo4折腾 - 查看主题 • Ubuntu中文论坛 zz: drc1234
[08:01] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 天朝买房 你是不是傻了
[08:01] <nyfair> 德国人好意思说盗版？当年德国电驴多风光
[08:01] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 我要是在家赚我现在这些钱，我一句话没有
[08:01] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 又不是你的地
[08:01] <gebjgd> nyfair, 现在一样风光 抓了坐牢
[08:01] <onlylove__> 谁有冲击钻借我个，我要去帮人装ap……
[08:02] <ulot0> 我有，你来拿，我在福建
[08:02] <onlylove__> 你付机票钱不
[08:02] <nyfair> gebjgd: 扯JB，现在没有电驴服务器？
[08:03] <onlylove__> nyfair: 他好像在这个频道的样子，你们要不要当面撕
[08:03] <ulot0> 你找我借东西，还让我付机票，不好吧
[08:03] <nyfair> onlylove_: 我喷mpv傻逼赖着他了
[08:03] <onlylove__> 那我去买个新的好了
[08:03] <onlylove__> 机票钱比钻贵多了，不过说起来，福建，厦门是在福建是吧
[08:03] <ulot0> 这里有你周围的人？
[08:04] <nyfair> linux下面没有播放器，都是写傻逼造的垃圾
[08:04] <gebjgd> nyfair, 扯B，必须有 抓了罚款坐牢
[08:04] <ulot0> 是啊，厦门在福建
[08:04] <cherrot> nyfair, 都用linux了 还要啥播放器
[08:04] <nyfair> cherrot: 就是要有人给自己找不自在，以为windows能干的linux也能干
[08:05] <cherrot> nyfair, 话说好久不用播放器了 没有下载收集的欲望
[08:06] <onlylove> cherrot: 其实吧，linux严格讲只是kernel……所以linux是没用播放器的，不过谁要是无聊在kernel里面写个……
[08:06] <nyfair> 我依稀还记得当年什么暴风影音大捆包，一个安装包一堆解码器。当年linux下一个mplayer什么都解决了
[08:06] <nyfair> 然后播放性能都比windows上的好
[08:06] <onlylove> 不过那个mplayer貌似要下解码器
[08:06] <nyfair> 当年反倒没人吹，反而有很多人一直问为什么不支持a格式b格式
[08:07] <nyfair> 很多年过去了，mplayer还和以前一样好
[08:07] <onlylove> 没解码器当然不能
[08:07] <onlylove> windows下面的也没见有长进啊
[08:07] <onlylove> 看foobar2k
[08:07] <iIlL10Oo> qq播放器是全能的
[08:08] <iIlL10Oo> mplayer也是全能的
[08:08] <nyfair> onlylove: windows media fundation已经把你平常能见到的所有格式全吃了，什么播放器都能用
[08:08] <lainme> 常见格式能播放就行了。要求那么高
[08:09] <lainme> 我的播放装上后都没开启过
[08:09] <onlylove__> iIlL10Oo: 凡事总有意外的
[08:09] <onlylove__> nyfair: 那个什么asf还是啥的
[08:09] <nyfair> asf就是wmv啊
[08:09] <iIlL10Oo> 反正我一直看毛片，没啥意外
[08:10] <cherrot> 升级完osx 连git都用不了了
[08:10] <onlylove__> iIlL10Oo: 毛片还真没意外，但是其他的电影不好说
[08:10] <onlylove__> 所以我一直好奇，其他电影压片的，还不如玩毛片的？
[08:11] <iIlL10Oo> 嗯，很多xx播放器在线下载的，只能他自己播放
[08:11] <nyfair> 莫装逼，forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=473172
[08:12] <nyfair> 找个linux播放器，放给我看看
[08:13] <nyfair> 你看那开源厨还要扯mediainfo，我一看帖子标题就知道linux搞不定
[08:13] <vickycq> 是说我？
[08:13] <nyfair> 是啊
[08:14] <onlylove__> 真要开撕？
[08:14] <vickycq> 不开撕
[08:14] <lainme> nyfair: 然而主贴说升级解决了
[08:15] <onlylove__> nyfair: 人说弄好了，昨天的事情
[08:15] <onlylove__> vickycq: 牛牛姐是视频解码牛牛，有些事别和她撕，撕不过
[08:16] <vickycq> 我是个小白
[08:16] <nyfair> lainme: onlylove__ : 你们结伴黑我啊
[08:17] <onlylove__> nyfair: 不是，你发链接之前看看嘛……
[08:17] <gfxmode> 我放音乐用的是mocp，好像有些格式的mocp不支持
[08:19] <onlylove__> 你不说我还真想不起来，我机器里面还有个mocp，说起来还有个console的播放器是啥忘了
[08:19] <lainme> mpc
[08:19] <onlylove__> 不是
[08:20] <onlylove__> mocp打开是蓝底的，那个打开是灰底的
[08:22] <gfxmode> http://www.linuxidc.com/Linux/2011-12/48835.htm
[08:22] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Linux 下10款终端音乐播放器_Linux新闻_Linux公社-Linux系统门户网站
[08:22] <onlylove__> 第一个……CMUS
[08:23] <onlylove__> 那是折腾oss的时候的事情了，现在……就那样吧
[08:24] <onlylove__> alsa也凑合，反正我木耳
[08:24] <onlylove__> 不过pluseaudio真心坑，要琢磨好久
[08:24] <onlylove__> 所以有时候想想，还是oss省心
[08:26] <ulot0> 我用UGET＋aria下载BT文件无流量，一直是零
[08:27] <gfxmode> onlylove__: 您说的我都不懂，我好像装播放器之类的时候，一起装了这些
[08:27] <ulot0> onlylove__, 你也遇到过，你解决了没？
[08:28] <gfxmode> ulot0: Linux下，我用的utorrent-server下BT，你可以试用下
[08:28] <nyfair> utorrent不是经常上ccav说他后台老干不干净的事么
[08:29] <gfxmode> 是么？
[08:29] <gfxmode> 但是用起来还挺方便的
[08:29] <ulot0> gfxmode, 系统自带的TRAN那个也能下载BT，就是aria下载没流量，搞不明白。
[08:30] <nyfair> aria不是也能下bt么
[08:30] <nyfair> 我以为bt已经死了
[08:30] <nyfair> 这年头不都网盘离线下bt么
[08:30] <onlylove> nyfair: 别闹，度娘盘怎么满足那些下岛国片的
[08:31] <nyfair> onlylove: u.115.com
[08:31] <ulot0> 是的，onlylove说的有道理
[08:31] <nyfair> onlylove: 一个帐号一个月能下100部
[08:31] <ulot0> 115不是封了吗
[08:31] <vickycq> 会员可以用
[08:31] <vickycq> 貌似
[08:32] <nyfair> ulot0: 115什么时候封了，我昨天还在下小黄油
[08:33] <ulot0> nyfair, 我记得N年前就封了的，还记得收到过邮件让我把文件转出来，难道我又记错了？
[08:33] <onlylove> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46028
[08:33] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 宠物狗可能减少儿童患哮喘几率
[08:33] <onlylove> 115不知道怎么说好……
[08:34] <onlylove> ulot0: 毕竟可能封的不全
[08:34] <ulot0> 我验证一下
[08:35] * onlylove 今天被班车司机害的迟到了，要去投诉
[08:35] <tryit> onlylove, 要打卡？
[08:36] <onlylove> tryit: 高管不用打卡，我知道
[08:36] <iIlL10Oo> 淘宝买个1T的硬盘，不用自己下载
[08:36] <tryit> onlylove, 。。。表黑
[08:36] <onlylove> iIlL10Oo: 现在硬盘还送这个？
[08:36] <iIlL10Oo> 先谈好
[08:37] <iIlL10Oo> 交易要协商好
[08:37] <onlylove> iIlL10Oo: 万一都是看过的，还是低码率带广告，那多无聊
[08:38] <ulot0> onlylove,说的对，是封的不完全，我的是封了的，可能咱没花钱
[08:38] <ulot0> 现在要用还是扫描手机，要么用他的浏览器
[08:43] <ulot0> 我准备买个固态硬盘升级笔记本，把光驱拆了，什么牌子的固态硬盘性价比高？
[08:45] <nyfair> 朱军，有什么英语单词适合骂阿三
[08:45] <onlylove_> 反正我觉得stupid 和silly不够用
[08:46] <onlylove_> 不过建议还是骂人不带脏字比较好
[08:59] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 看什么岛国片子
[08:59] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 要看欧美的
[08:59] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 欧美太重口
[08:59] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 没觉得
[09:00] <ulot0> 韩国
[09:00] <ulot0> 去跑步了，886
[09:00] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 玩游戏都忙不过来，哪有时间看那种东西
[09:01] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 玩什么游戏 多大了 你到了玩女人的年纪了
[09:01] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 等最新的蚁人能下了，下来再说
[09:01] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 魔兽世界什么的，女人的世界我搞不懂，不去研究
[09:02] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 孤独注终生
[09:02] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 写个程序好歹还能debug
[09:02] <andyhuzhill> irc 上的nickname 不是随便起的么？
[09:02] <onlylove_> 是随便起的
[09:02] <onlylove_> 不过最好不要冒犯别人
[09:02] <wbchn> 蚁人可以下了，上周没下完
[09:02] <andyhuzhill> 刚刚一老外 一上来就骂我 说我steal 他的nickname了
[09:02] <onlylove_> 还有，有人会把名字注册到服务器，然后他就独占这个nick了
[09:03] <wbchn> 注册到服务器多好，还steal呢。。。
[09:03] <wbchn> 这么长的nickname，有啥特殊解释？
[09:03] <onlylove_> andyhuzhill: 直接register，省的他找事
[09:03] <onlylove_> wbchn: cam版？
[09:03] <andyhuzhill> 我现在这个nickname 是注册在freenode的 骂人的是在另一个irc里面的
[09:04] <wbchn> onlylove onlylove_ onlylove__ 不是一个人？是几个朋友？
[09:04] <onlylove1> wbchn: 一个人
[09:05] <onlylove1> wbchn: 只不过网络渣，所以现在这样子
[09:05] <wbchn> 要不要从这里拉人过去骂回去？
[09:05] <onlylove> wbchn: 这典型的被狗咬了好么
[09:05] <onlylove> wbchn: 枪版的不下也罢
[09:05] <wbchn> onlylove: 怎么有时候看到几个账号混着发呢
[09:05] <onlylove> wbchn: 我开了俩端
[09:06] <onlylove> wbchn: 或者一个掉线了，另一个连进来
[09:06] <wbchn> onlylove: 好吧。的确是枪版，没下载完，不知道分辨率咋样
[09:06] <onlylove> wbchn: 在一个网络抽风的时代，能用就好
[09:06] <wbchn> 我这还好，用的时候没掉过
[09:07] <nyfair> 这年头还用irc已经够无聊了，还能无聊到去偷名字？
[09:07] <nyfair> onlylove: 牛牛加我qq
[09:07] <onlylove> 其实抢比较合适……
[09:07] <wbchn> 牛牛用QQ么？
[09:08] <nyfair> irc只有上班无聊开，qq一直在线
[09:08] <onlylove> nyfair: 你今天这是咋了……我上班不上qq的，公司电脑
[09:08] <onlylove> nyfair: 下班也不上，忙着游戏
[09:08] <garfunkle> 啥游戏
[09:08] <onlylove> 各种游戏
[09:08] <garfunkle> 工口么
[09:08] <onlylove> 早不玩了
[09:09] <onlylove> 工口什么的，玩下mod可以，其他的，没玩头
[09:10] <nyfair> onlylove: 心情不好啊，傻逼阿三傻逼阿三傻逼阿三傻逼阿三傻逼阿三
[09:10] <onlylove> nyfair: 你不知道阿三是喝恒河水的么
[09:10] <onlylove> nyfair: 听说恒河里面啥都有
[09:10] <wbchn> 啥工作啊，还跟阿三玩？我已经摆脱他们一年多了
[09:11] <onlylove1> test
[09:11] <ubrl> onlylove1:点点点. 17:14
[09:11] <onlylove1> nyfair: 奇怪的东西吃多了……自然就那什么
[09:12] <wbchn> nyfair: 忽悠他们吃个牛肉馅饼看看？
[09:13] <onlylove1> wbchn: 那样会发飙吧，不好吧？
[09:13] <onlylove1> wbchn: 不要拿别人宗教信仰什么的开玩笑，不好玩
[09:14] <wbchn> onlylove1: 嗯，是不好。记得有天早晨三儿指着馅饼问我 “meat？” 当时没反应过来
[09:14] <wbchn> onlylove1: 只说说，不实践哈
[09:14] <gebjgd> mengfei52306, 准备离开非诚勿扰了么
[09:14] <nyfair> 干了这杯恒河水
[09:15] <nyfair> 干了这碗恒河水,来生誓作民主人,全家移民卢旺达,满屋开遍自由花
[09:15] <onlylove_> 卢旺达……
[09:15] <xiaowang> 哈哈 楼上豪迈
[09:16] <onlylove_> 还好不是以色列或者索马里
[09:17] <nyfair> 以色列一点都不民主好伐
[09:17] <andyhuzhill> 卢旺达不是发生过种族灭绝运动么
[09:17] <onlylove> 说的好像哪里有真民主似的
[09:17] <nyfair> 是啊
[09:18] <nyfair> 索马里绝对比以色列民主
[09:18] <onlylove> help the poor children in Uganda ！
[09:19] <nyfair> andyhuzhill: 这才是卢旺达的民主体现，这是人家多数族裔的民主决定
[09:19] <onlylove> 多数人暴政
[09:33] <onlylove> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46031
[09:33] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 动视暴雪59亿美元收购糖果粉碎开发商
[09:33] <onlylove> 收购，收购
[09:34] <onlylove> 原来moplus是那么个东西……我今天还在想手机上这个文件夹作甚的
[09:35] <onlylove> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46030
[09:35] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 百度没有移除SDK中的所有恶意后门功能
[09:39] <gfxmode> 快下班了，有点饿
[09:46] <onlylove1> 还要45分钟下班，不开心，下班还要去装ap，更不开心
[09:47] <wbchn> 我也是，6点半
[09:47] <onlylove1> 你下班不用去装ap啊，我当时是怎么想的，推荐了个吸顶的！
[09:48] <wbchn> 那倒是，不过你装完ap也比我到家早
[09:48] <onlylove__> 不可能
[09:48] <wbchn> ap做成贴纸的怎样？
[09:48] <onlylove__> 我离装ap的地方一小时10分钟车程
[09:48] <wbchn> 我8点才能进家门
[09:49] <onlylove__> 我TM8点能不能到装ap的地方都是问题
[09:49] <wbchn> 这是去哪儿了，跨省？
[09:49] <onlylove__> 然后那地方离我住的地方还TM40分钟
[09:49] <onlylove__> 跨毛线省
[09:49] <onlylove__> 这还是地铁的速度
[09:50] <onlylove__> 公交想都不要想了，加上那时候的交通拥堵
[09:50] <wbchn> 没事，装完ap，蹭个饭再走
[09:50] <onlylove__> 不蹭，
[09:50] <onlylove__> 那个姑奶奶惹不起
[09:50] <wbchn> 是抱不起么？
[09:51] <onlylove__> 惹不起
[09:51] <onlylove__> 不是抱不起
[09:51] <wbchn> 哈哈，不信
[09:51] <onlylove__> 直接没抱的想法
[09:51] <onlylove__> 你要喜欢，联系方式可以给你
[09:52] <wbchn> 算了，我还是去玩玩刚装好的google earth吧
[10:34] * blackshark_ slaps alpha080 around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:37] <blackshark_> halo
[10:46] <ulot0> hello
[10:46] <ubrl> ulot0:点点点. 18:49
[10:46] <ulot0> ubrl, 我没跟你说话呀！
[10:46] <ubrl> ulot0, 你为什么不这样做呢？ 18:49
[10:47] <ulot0> ubrl, 今天不想理你呀
[10:47] <ubrl> ulot0, 请问今天你想关心我啊？ 18:49
[10:47] <ulot0> ubrl, 不想关心你
[10:47] <ubrl> ulot0, 它使一个很好的礼物。 18:50
[10:47] <ulot0> ubrl, 听不懂
[10:47] <ubrl> ulot0, 哦，对不起。 18:50
[11:13] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • 浏览器或者终端显示出来的是黑框 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473665 电脑运行了一段时间就是这个样子。debian系统 gnome3 打开文件管理 或者右键（终端上 火狐浏览器上） 出来的都成了黑框，但是鼠标可以点，只是位置变黑了。 请问需要装显卡驱动吗，
[11:13] <^k^> ─> 旧的驱动如何卸载呢？ PS:附件是照片 谢谢 zz: zhou380491943 — 2015-11-03 19:10
[12:27] <^k^> 新 游戏和游戏模拟器 • [dota2linux][epic boss fight]自定义游戏EBF初期攻略(2015年11月初) http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473666 [dota2linux][epic boss fight]自定义游戏EBF初期攻略(2015年11月初) 最近进入2015年11月初了，epic boss fight这个dota2的mod游戏，又更新了一些。boss已然增设到了36波。然而
[12:34] <^k^> BinLi: 拜
[12:55] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • Meizu MX4 非ubuntu版 能否刷機成 ubuntu 版用？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473668 Meizu MX4 非ubuntu版 能否刷機成 ubuntu 版用？ 突然不知道應該發到哪個版塊，就在這裏混混吧，汗ing 看新聞區裏說今年在歐洲發行了 Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition 不知道能否在國內買個普
[12:55] <^k^> ─> 通的 MX4 自己刷機整 ubuntu 玩呢？ 有沒有前輩傳授一下經驗哈？ 感謝！ zz: samuelgl — 2015 …
[13:18] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 如何理解 ip addr add 192.168.1.123/24 dev wlan0 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473669 我大致了解这句话：将wlan0 的ip地址设置为 192.168.1.123 ip addr add 192.168.1.123/24 dev wlan0 请问 /24是什么含义？ zz: pengsir — 2015-11-03 21:17
[14:47] <^k^> 新 编译或打包 • Snappy Ubuntu Core 編譯問題 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473670 大家好, 第一次来这裡请教问题, 还请大家多多请教 我在 Ubuntu 官方网站可以下载到 Snappy 给 x86 平台跑的 image 档 Try_x86 目前为止我知道这一个 Snappy image 档是有 Debian CD image 以及其它的工具所组成 但
[14:47] <^k^> ─> 详细步骤我并没有在网站上找到, 是否有大神可以指点方向, 1. ubuntu-15.04-snappy-amd64-generic.i …
[15:19] <^k^> FJKong: 拜见孔叔豪
[15:19] <FJKong> =.=!
[23:56] <^k^> 新 字体美化和中文支持 • keepass2在Ubuntu 15.10下中文乱码的解决办法 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473678 UBUNTU 15.10下keepass2菜单和对话框中文乱码，经检查发现是默认Ubuntu字体族未映射中文字体，修改/etc/fonts/conf.avail/65-nonlatin.conf，增加如下内容即可 Code: <alias> <famil
[23:56] <^k^> ─> y>Ubuntu</family> <prefer> <family>sans-serif</family> </prefer> </alias> zz: …
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[12:43] <seb128> DanChapman, hey, thanks for triaging my dekko bugs reports ;-)
[13:33] <DanChapman> seb128: hey! np. :-)
[13:33] <seb128> :-)
[15:13] <mzanetti> mhall119, hey, who will be the co-host for my session?
[15:14] <mhall119> mzanetti: you
[15:14] <mzanetti> mhall119, so I'll be alone there?
[15:14] <mhall119> oh, co-host?
[15:14] <mhall119> mzanetti: which session?
[15:14] <mzanetti> unity8 convergence show and tell
[15:14] <mzanetti> in 45 mins
[15:15] <mhall119> balloons maybe then
[15:15] <mhall119> if you need a co-host
[15:15] <mhall119> or one of the other Show and Tell track leads
[18:02] <mzanetti> balloons, I like what I see (reminders-app)
[18:02] <mzanetti> autolanding still complains tho...
[18:02] <mzanetti> where did you add the dependency?
[18:02] <mzanetti> and where is my commit to fix that? I did that last night
[18:04] <mzanetti> ah ok... the commit is there...
[18:04] <balloons> mzanetti, I needed to add the dependency to the chroot; as we don't use debian packages in the new jenkins
[18:04] <mzanetti> oh, I see
[18:04] <balloons> though the old one is still running, and failed it, so it didn't autotrigger
[18:04] <balloons> I'll manually kick it
[18:04] <mzanetti> cool :)
[18:04] <mzanetti> balloons, you using the click packages now in jenkins?
[18:04] <balloons> mzanetti, yes
[18:04] <mzanetti> balloons, awesome
[18:05] <mzanetti> I wonder if we can drop the dpkg stuff then
[18:05] <balloons> mzanetti, there's a session I'll talk more about what's going on
[18:05] <balloons> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22598/community-core-apps-qa/
[18:05] <mzanetti> ok. thanks so far
[18:05] <mzanetti> looking great
[22:39] <snizzo> mzanetti: is that online meeting? will it be streamed online?
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[10:43] <ePierre> Hi everyone!
[10:45] <ePierre> I'm working in the Checkbox team <https://launchpad.net/checkbox-project> and we just raised two issues to get packages removed from Xenial repositories: pad.lv/1512641 and pad.lv/1512642 ; please let me know if there are anything else I need to do or provide for this to happen. Thanks!
[10:52] <Mirv> has anyone running 14.04 LTS been able to workaround bug #1497420 to attach to xenial lxc?
[11:01] <mardy> seb128: hi! Did you have time to look at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/446 ?
[11:49] <Laney> utlemming / Odd_Bloke / smoser: know when we'll get the first cloud images?
[11:50] * Laney is trying to use adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud :)
[11:52] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: We're doing a major rework of how we build images for xenial, so dailies on cloud-images.ubuntu.com aren't imminent.
[11:53] <Odd_Bloke> Laney: I did point pitti at some sample images for him to test out, but I don't know that he's managed to get to them yet (I believe he's sprinting this week).
[12:00] <Laney> Odd_Bloke: OK, thanks, I'll check if a-b-u-c can use those somehow
[12:14] <pitti> Odd_Bloke: oh, you did? sorry, missed them
[12:22] <pitti> Odd_Bloke: ETA 4 hours, go hotel network :)
[12:24] <mgedmin> huh, collectd in debian testing is 5.5.0; collectd in xenial is still 5.4.1
[12:31] <mgedmin> ah, judging from the .ubuntu1 version it needs a merge
[12:31] <seb128> mardy, sorry for the delay, published now
[12:32] <mardy> seb128: nw, thanks a lot! :-)
[12:33] <mardy> seb128: ah looks like it failed
[12:34] <mardy> seb128: packages changed in the archive, let me sync them...
[12:34] <seb128> mardy, if they are no change upload we can override
[12:34] <seb128> but please check if there is content to include
[12:35] <mardy> seb128: ok, I'll let you know in a minute
[12:37] * mgedmin finds and reads https://merges.ubuntu.com/c/collectd/REPORT
[12:37] <mardy> seb128: yes, all three are "no change rebuild"
[12:40] <seb128> mardy, ok, published again with override which worked
[12:44] <Odd_Bloke> pitti: :)
[12:47] <mardy> seb128: thanks!
[12:48] <seb128> mardy, yw!
[14:18] <rbasak> pitti: taking the nis merge to work on with cpaezler. I trust that's OK.
[14:18] <pitti> rbasak: please
[14:19] <rbasak> Thanks
[14:19] <pitti> rbasak: no, thanks to you :)
[14:33] <pitti> Odd_Bloke: http://people.canonical.com/~dwatkins/20151028/ amd image is working fine here! I tested it with local qemu, not with an actual cloud, but I guess you already did that
[14:41] <seb128> what's the way to let britney to let a package through if it reduced the list of archs it's building a binary on? deleting the binary for those archs in the release pocket?
[14:46] <cjwatson> seb128: that
[14:46] <cjwatson> though obviously check reverse-dependencies first
[14:46] <seb128> right, I just did
[14:47] <seb128> it's for xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[14:47] <seb128> (I hope I didn't overlook thing)
[14:47] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks
[15:03] <mardy_> seb128: the message about the packages being "in the proposed pocket", does it mean that it's all right, or is it an error? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/446
[15:04] <seb128> mardy_, it's normal, things go through proposed and migrate when/if they are ok (tests passing, not creating un-installability issue, etc)
[15:05] <mardy_> seb128: ok, thanks
[15:05] <seb128> mardy_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration if you are interested by the detailzs
[15:12] <ogra_> cjwatson, infinity, does either of you know how live-build enforces immediate execution of triggers ? (i have a problem installing the raspi2 kernel package during a livefs build, afaik it is 100% based on the -generic package so it should work, yet it defers the update-initramfs trigger, so the postinst fails) https://launchpadlibrarian.net/224109673/buildlog_ubuntu_xenial_armhf_ubuntu-core-system-image_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:13] <ogra_> the apt.conf manpage only seems to have options to suppress trigger execution
[15:18] <TJ-> ogra_: I may be mis-remembering but from a looong way back I seem to recall seeing/using OrderList::Score::Immediate
[15:18] <ogra_> TJ-, hmm, i'll try
[15:23] <cjwatson> ogra_: as far as I know, it doesn't
[15:24] <ogra_> weird, so that would be a packaging bug in the raspi2 package ?
[15:24] <cjwatson> that would be my first guess
[15:24] <ogra_> hmm and the kernel team is traveling :(
[15:24] <cjwatson> deferring triggers isn't really a thing
[15:24] <cjwatson> err
[15:24] <ogra_> enforcing :)
[15:24] <cjwatson> I mean, enforcing immediate execution of triggers isn't really a thing
[15:25] <cjwatson> OrderList::Score::Immediate is a bit different really
[15:25] <ogra_> yeah, thats how i read the manpage
[15:31] <Laney> doko: Do you have an idea on how we can get past https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19188 ?
[15:32] <Laney> it's breaking webkit2gtk/arm64 which is going to be the last thing holding up a big-ish migration soon
[15:43] <seb128> hum
[15:43] <seb128> gdb doesn't work on xenial for me :-/
[15:43] <seb128> (gdb) bt
[15:43] <seb128> Python Exception <class 'SystemError'> <built-in function isinstance> returned a result with an error set:
[15:44] <seb128> those python errors is everything it returns
[15:45] <sarnold> seb128: maybe disable autoloading python? https://sourceware.org/gdb/onlinedocs/gdb/Python-Auto_002dloading.html#Python-Auto_002dloading
[15:45] <seb128> sarnold, thanks
[15:45] <seb128> Laney, you could have updated python-pgmagick to 0.5.12 that patch is basically all there is in the new version ;-) (I pinged slangasek about that yesterday)
[15:46] <seb128> sarnold, that works ;-)
[15:46] <sarnold> yay :)
[15:46] * Laney shrugs
[15:47] <Laney> why didn't you upload it?
[15:47] <seb128> Laney, because slangasek said it was on his list
[15:47] <Laney> didn't see a bug
[15:47] <seb128> he was the one who uploaded the version that failed to build
[15:47] <seb128> yeah, I should probably have opened one
[15:47] <seb128> sorry about that :-)
[15:47] <seb128> I though he would handle it yesterday
[15:47] <doko> Laney, sorry, not yet. gold fails too. for unity it only showed up build the test cases, so I proposed to disable these.
[15:47] <doko> Laney, this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1511542
[15:48] <seb128> doko, hey, gdb giving the python errors I just copied, is that known? what component should that be reported against?
[15:50] <Laney> doko: :(
[15:53] <doko> seb128, do you have a test case, or is this just loading the pretty printer?
[15:53] <seb128> doko, I just do "gdb something" and "run" and ctrl-C and bt
[15:53] <seb128> or attach to an existing process
[15:53] <stgraber> cyphermox: hey, who's in charge of network-manager these days? we've got a very serious regression affecting wily and xenial
[16:00] <stgraber> slangasek, cyphermox: bug 1512749
[16:06] <barry> Laney: matplotlib 1.5.0~rc2-1ubuntu3 \o/
[16:06] <barry> Laney: i was just about to start looking at that one :)
[16:07] <Laney> barry: hehe
[16:07] <Laney> you should make more things depend on glib
[16:07] <Laney> then you get people like me to care :P
[16:08] <barry> Laney: :)
[16:08] <barry> Laney: now i know how to trick you into fixing all the bugs
[16:18] <sil2100> slangasek, doko, cyphermox, any-other-core-dev: could you release https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ledit/+bug/1512776 for me? Thanks!
[16:19] <yofel> pitti: fixes for some of the kubuntu autopackagetest failures uploaded, sorry that it took a while (some still need to be uploaded once I fixed our packageset..). Is there some way to list all kubuntu packages with test failures?
[16:20] <pitti> yofel: I think the easiest thing to start from is http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/data/status/xenial/amd64/packages.json
[16:21] <yofel> ah nice, that works
[16:21] <yofel> thanks
[16:21] <pitti> yofel: probably easiest with three lines of python -- iterate over status "fail" and "kde" in package, or so?
[16:22] <pitti> I'm fairly sure one can do it with json_pp, but I never learned the magic of this; Laney knows this
[16:23] <yofel> if the naming would be that easy I wouldn't have trouble :P
[16:23] <yofel> but we have lists of all our maintained sources, so filtering that won't be hard
[16:24] <Laney> pitti: yofel: The tool that I used was called 'jq'
[16:25] <pitti> ah, or that
[16:25] <yofel> thanks, I'll look at that
[16:25] <pitti> not knowing that i'd just do something like "for p in json.load(f.read()): if p['package'] ...
[16:32] <cyphermox> sil2100: looking
[16:38] <cyphermox> sil2100: done.
[16:39] <bdmurray> tumbleweed: did you say you had updated distro-info-data?
[16:41] <sil2100> cyphermox: thanks!
[16:42] <sil2100> doko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-api/+bug/1512784 - MIR request pretty please
[16:45] * ogra_ wonders whats up with the arm builders ...
[16:51] <cjwatson> ogra_: ?
[16:52] <ogra_> cjwatson, well, they seem busy https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/xenial/ubuntu-core-system-image/ (i had them starting immediately all day during test builds)
[16:53] <cjwatson> ogra_: they have about a ten-minute queue at the moment due mostly to a batch of KDE uploads, but nothing serious
[16:53] <cjwatson> ogra_: see https://launchpad.net/builders/
[16:53] <ogra_> ah, k
[16:53] <ogra_> well, i'll wait
[16:53] <cjwatson> arm64 will take longer, but that's normal
[16:53] <cjwatson> I think the 28 minutes on your page is a misestimate
[16:53] <ogra_> yeah, for test builds i dont care for arm64 ... i should have excluded it from ARCHES=
[17:05] <bdmurray> tumbleweed: I ask as I don't seem them in the unapproved SRU queues
[17:08] <stgraber> cyphermox: did you see my question above?
[17:08] <cyphermox> I had not
[17:08] <cyphermox> so, the short answer is "nobody really".
[17:09] <cyphermox> NM shouldn't touch the interfaces it doesn't manage, especially not bridges, at all, so something clearly got broken
[17:09] <stgraber> I just uploaded a very very ugly workaround to xenial now, if that does the trick, we'll have to SRU this very quickly to wily too until NM gets fixed
[17:09] <cyphermox> ok
[17:09] <cyphermox> which package?
[17:10] <stgraber> lxc
[17:10] <stgraber> cyphermox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13092923/
[17:10] <cyphermox> oh yuck
[17:11] <stgraber> yeah
[17:11] <stgraber> as I said, very very ugly workaround, does the trick though
[17:11] <stgraber> the alternative was a "sleep 5" but well, that'd just be racy :)
[17:11] <cyphermox> yeah
[17:12] <cyphermox> so, I think we're running into more of the veth vs. straight ethernet device issue
[17:12] <stgraber> and nmcli doesn't seem to have a "wait until we reach some kind of final state"
[17:12] <stgraber> cyphermox: nah, it's a bridge here and NM does try to do stuff with the bridge backend code
[17:13] <stgraber> cyphermox: run: ip link add dev test type bridge && ip link set dev test up && ip addr add 1.2.3.4/24 dev test && sleep 2 && ifconfig test && ip link delete test
[17:13] <stgraber> cyphermox: you'll get an interface without an IP
[17:14] <stgraber> Nov 3 12:13:17 castiana NetworkManager[21958]: <info> (test): new Bridge device (carrier: OFF, driver: 'bridge', ifindex: 94)
[17:14] <stgraber> so NM does detect it as a bridge and then still does stuff to it...
[17:14] <stgraber> it doesn't seem to start DHCP on it though, but it still does flush any pre-existing config from it
[17:15] <seb128> cyphermox, you are not maintainin n-m anymore? do you still plan to do the point release updates?
[17:16] <cyphermox> I do what I can given available time; but these days there's a lot of things going in front of NM in the todo queue.
[17:18] <seb128> k, just wondering if we should do updates like we handle GNOME ones
[17:40] <bdmurray> tumbleweed: Ah, I see its in -proposed for everything except wily.
[17:41] <Laney> presumably because we have it in there as Xenial X, so might as well wait for the real release date before SRUing again
[17:42] <bdmurray> Laney: got it thanks
[17:53] <cyphermox> seb128: by all means, feel free to do the updates for NM, but some may be quite involved :/
[17:54] <seb128> cyphermox, right...
[18:07] <mterry> pitti, hi! I'm looking at the strip-nondeterminism MIR. Looks fine, but I had a question about if enabling this means we'll fail a build if the tool has a problem or if it continues the build in that case (there are several bugs in Debian about strip-nondeterminism having problems on weird files)
[18:09] <pitti> mterry: haven't checked for sure, but I'd expect it to FTBFS if dh_strip_nondeterminism fails
[18:10] <pitti> mterry: but Debian has run it in production for some time, so I figure the worst bugs have been shaken out already
[18:10] <pitti> mterry: and as I said on the bug, if this causes extra FTBFS the foundations team will certainly deal with this
[18:10] <pitti> (in the worst case by disabling it for that package or in general)
[18:10] <mterry> pitti, OK. Well that's a decision for integration into debhelper anyway. Not a reason to block the MIR. This package itself is maintainable
[18:10] <mterry> pitti, cool, thanks!
[18:11] <pitti> mterry: right; once approved, I'll revert the delta of dropping the dep from debhelper
[18:16] <tumbleweed> bdmurray: oh, yes, I forgot to verify them
[18:17] <mterry> bdmurray, the foundations team is looking after strip-nondeterminism in main, FYI
[18:18] <bdmurray> tumbleweed: I've verified Trusty and Vivid.
[18:20] <tumbleweed> bdmurray: thanks
[18:32] <cyphermox> stgraber: what about this? http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?id=e29ab54335c6a5ef1ce6bac525f1f18a8e81b96e
[18:37] <stgraber> cyphermox: the reproducer in that commit is identical to what we're doing, so that's probably right
[19:04] <mterry> bdmurray, and unity-api is being looked after by unity-ui-team in main, FYI!
[19:35] <decci> I am trying to build .DEB package
[19:36] <decci> I ran dh_make -f ../.tar.gz , then debian/rules clean, build and binary. It went good and built .DEB package
[19:38] <decci> Now when I again re-run the debian/rules binary it threw error override_dh_auto_install
[19:38] <decci> Error code 2
[19:38] <decci> Any idea how to fix this
[19:38] <ricotz> decci, you should use "debuild" or "dpkg-buildpackage" to build a source package
[19:39] <decci> ricotz: Do you mean use it instead of debian/rules build
[19:40] <mterry> jdstrand, and alabaster in main is also looked after by foundations team, fyi!
[19:40] <decci> ricotz: So whats the correct way of building .DEB
[19:40] * mterry is clearing out MIRs :)
[19:41] <decci> ricotz: All I follow: 1. dh_make 2. debian/rule clean 3. debian/rules build 4. debian/rules binary
[19:41] <decci> ricotz: Where do I need to run debuild?
[19:41] <decci> ricotz: I mean after which step
[19:42] <ricotz> decci, you downloaded a source package, e.g. having a *.dsc file lying around?
[19:42] <ricotz> do "dpkg-source -x *.dsc", go into the src folder and run "dpkg-buildpackage" or "debuild"
[19:43] <decci> ricotz: I have source code, when I run dh_make it creates debian folder where rules, preinst and postinst gets created and .dsc gets created at ../
[19:44] <ricotz> so you want to create a debian package from some tarball without any existing packaging information?
[19:44] <decci> ricotz: This is a source code internal to company..pre-compiled and linked already
[19:45] <decci> ricotz: All I am trying to do is build it to .deb
[19:45] <decci> ricotz: yes
[19:45] <ricotz> decci, you might want to use "checkinstall" then
[19:46] <decci> ricotz: checkinstall doesnt handle rules, preinst and postinst
[19:46] <decci> ricotz: I dont see any option for rules specification
[19:46] <ricotz> you don't have any packaging information in the first place
[19:47] <decci> ricotz: I have rules, postinst and preinst, control files in place
[19:47] <ricotz> so simply use the tarball and build it and checkinstall creates a deb
[19:47] <ricotz> ok, because you ran dh_make
[19:47] <decci> ricotz: All I want to build .DEB package using these rules, preinst and postint
[19:48] <ricotz> then debuild from within the root srcdir should work
[19:48] <decci> ricotz: dh_make gives me debian folder with rules, post and preinst file created to add the rules
[19:48] <ricotz> search for debian packaging details to make further adjustments if needed
[19:49] <decci> ricotz: I can try debuild , so do I need to run under my source
[19:49] <decci> ricotz: which has Makefile, configure.ac
[19:49] <decci> ricotz: CMakeCache.txt
[19:50] <decci> ricotz: What could be reason of override_dh_auto_install Error: code 2
[19:51] <ricotz> debuild looks for the debian folder and its content
[19:51] <ricotz> sound like an error in your changes to rules
[19:52] <ricotz> better paste a more detailed error output (via pastebin), so someone can look at it
[19:53] <ricotz> I need to go
[19:53] <decci> ricotz: dpkg-source: error: unwanted binary file: debian/CMakeFiles
[19:54] <decci> ricotz: dpkg-source: error: detected 4 unwanted binary files (add them in debian/source/include-binaries to allow their inclusion).
[19:54] <mterry> bdmurray, and foundations for python-hypothesis too!
[19:56] <bdmurray> mterry: got it, thanks
[19:56] <decci> dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b dcde_source gave error exit status 29
[19:57] <mterry> bdmurray, (is this the easiest way to update the list? -- I'm fine with it, just curious if these pings get annoying)
[20:00] <bdmurray> mterry: the list of teams I'm already aware of can be found here - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/view/head:/package-subscribers#L107
[20:01] <bdmurray> mterry: If the team isn't in that list then being notified would be useful
[20:01] <mterry> bdmurray, ahh... so if a team subscribes to a bug, you assume they are looking after it as long as they are in this list. It's not a granular team->package thing
[20:02] <bdmurray> mterry: right, we look at the packages to which those teams are subscribed
[20:03] <mterry> bdmurray, cool OK, then I can drop a lot of pings :)
[20:03] <bdmurray> mterry: indeed!
[20:35] <cyphermox> stgraber: looks like it's good; I'll upload to xenial now and then we can look at the SRU for this. Can you update the bug to add the template?
[20:36] <stgraber> cyphermox: sure, I'll add a testcase once we have it in xenial and working
[20:36] <stgraber> cyphermox: I was going to SRU the ugly lxc workaround but if we can get network-manager fixed itself, even better
[21:02] <chiluk> slangasek: I know you are busy, but can I get an upload for nfs-utils done for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1509120 I have a feeling it will look familiar to you.
[21:09] <slangasek> chiluk: oh hah, is that really just a keyutils upcall bug?
[21:14] <cyphermox> stgraber: yeah, feel free to not SRU your ugly lxc fix now if this NM update works :)
[21:15] <stgraber> cyphermox: already reverted it in xenial, it's clearly not something I wanted to have to keep around :)
[21:15] <cyphermox> ack.
[21:19] <chiluk> slangasek: yes it is.
[21:20] <slangasek> chiluk: I notice the rationale for adding the dependency in vivid+ was that this is required for systemd compatibility, because in the systemd case everything assumes we only use /usr/sbin/nfsidmap as an upcall *instead* of running idmapd (/etc/request-key.d/id_resolver.conf). So this certainly seems to be a workaround rather than a proper fix
[21:20] <slangasek> do I have that right?
[21:23] <chiluk> slangasek: it's not a workaround when communicating with old nfsv4 servers that don't support sec=sys, and thus aren't using idmapd.
[21:23] <slangasek> hmm
[21:24] <chiluk> afaik.. but I wouldn't consider myself an nfs expert by any stretch of the imagination
[21:24] <slangasek> should anyone? ;)
[21:24] <chiluk> we were only able to rerpoduce the hang by using an ancient 2.6.32 centos machine
[21:24] <chiluk> precisely because sec=sys isn't supported by such an ancient kernel.
[21:24] <slangasek> do you know what the RPC is that triggers this path, vs. working via idmapd?
[21:25] <chiluk> I don't.
[21:25] <slangasek> ok
[21:25] <chiluk> I could tcpdump it real quick if you'd like.
[21:25] <chiluk> slangasek: ^^
[21:25] <slangasek> chiluk: hit me
[21:26] <chiluk> don't tempt me...
[21:26] <slangasek> chiluk: has this been reproduced cross-architecture?
[21:27] <slangasek> chiluk: because my next question is, is it reproducible with the 14.04.0 kernel or only with hwe-v?
[21:27] <chiluk> yeah ppc is hitting it although I don't have a trustable backtrace yet from them, and I'm seeing it on x86_64
[21:27] <chiluk> oh no, I'm using 3.13.
[21:27] <slangasek> ok
[21:28] <chiluk> do you still want that tcpdump? I just realized that the machine will become unusable once I instantiate the crash.. so we'll see what kind of messages actually can get logged.
[21:29] <chiluk> nm I can capture from the server.
[21:30] <slangasek> chiluk: I think I'm happy without the tcpdump
[21:30] <chiluk> slangasek, yeah .. I was a bit curious myself about the rejected rpc call.
[21:49] <Unit193> FWIW, Debian 786690 still affects wily.
[22:59] <xnox> i'm blinking over "1TB PCIe Solid State Drive" whilst starring at XPS 15 (9550).
[23:00] <sarnold> ooo
[23:00] <sarnold> chrisccoulson: ^^^
[23:00] <xnox> the new XPS 15, however so far it's with windows only, and i don't see a developer edition with ubuntu yet.
[23:00] <xnox> http://www.dell.com/uk/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd
[23:01] <xnox> superm1: is XPS 15 (9550) pre-orderable as a developer edition? i shall give them a call tomorrow.
[23:05] <sil2100> doko: so, to continue on the ocaml transition I need multiple arm64 binaries built from the dependency level 3 uploads I made, meaning I'm currently stalled on that
[23:05] <sil2100> But tomorrow at least some of them should be available, so I can continue from there then
[23:07] <superm1> xnox: not currently. It's a work in progress still.
[23:07] <superm1> danjared: will know current status better than I
[23:09] <cjwatson> sil2100: yeah, for that number it's sensible just to wait - at least the ocaml stack isn't too deep
[23:09] <cjwatson> the queue's "only" an hour long at the moment
[23:41] <danjared> what'd I do?
[23:42] <danjared> xnox: no, no current plans for an Ubuntu version of the XPS 15. there are plans for the Precision Mobile 5510
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[17:31] <k1l_> !lag
[17:39] <Pici> k1l_: did you pm bereiyx ?
[17:41] <k1l_> Pici: no
[17:42] <weva> hello guys, I just received continuous harassment from this user: http://is.gd/ScukAb, http://is.gd/LL0VEr
[17:43] <weva> now ignored, but wanted to report
[17:43] <k1l_> yes, please tell #freenode so the admins can get hold of him
[17:46] <weva> k1l_ haha, I already did, the way they got hold of him was to tell me to use /ignore, not taking any further action as "they cannot enforce morality"
[23:33] <genii> Just updated the #kubuntu !ops call to reflect current operators active there
[23:34] <valorie> \o/
[23:37] <bazhang> @random okbro HURD emacs
[23:37] <bazhang> what!!111
[23:37] <bazhang> sack this bot immediately!
[23:38] <valorie> emacs = foreign OS
[23:39] <bazhang> superb os and irc cleint, sucky no editor
[23:39] <valorie> lol
[23:39] <valorie> my apologies to all those of the emacs religion
[23:43] <bazhang> and by that we mean CHU
[23:44] <bazhang> I wonder if he has gesundheit on highlight
[23:51] <valorie> bless you
[23:52] <genii> bazhang: Almost certainly "lisp" anyhow
[23:52] <bazhang> genii, he could get that corrected with some dental surgery!
[23:53] <genii> < rolls eyes>
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[19:57] <bz> in thumb-2, is the final right-most operand supposed to be flexible?
[20:00] <bz> for the orr mnemonic, that is
[20:00] <bz> i ask this because i have a pdf titled "ARM and Thumb-2 Instruction Set Quick Reference Card" that shows the syntax of orr to be: orr rd, rn, operand2
[20:01] <bz> where operand2 allows an optional register shift by a register
[20:01] <bz> but gnu as doesn't accept this
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[00:36] <Unit193> PCLine__: So back to playing around?
[00:37] <PCLine__> Yes - Got time to reload Ubuntu on my Laptop.
[00:37] <PCLine__> and I have updated it.
[00:37] <PCLine__> now trying to make sure everything is loaded and running right.
[00:39] <Unit193> There's a slight problem with routing traffic through the VPS/VPN, a lot of things start giving you Metric and French.
[01:04] <PCLine__> I have never (yet) setup VPN on this setup - I have that on my wish list. Not needed at this time.
[01:05] <Unit193> OpenVPN is a usual and good one, I use GVPE.
[01:06] <PCLine__> New Laptop is running 64Bit and I have 8Gb Ram - I can run a little more then before.
[01:07] <PCLine__> Want to setup an install with a desktop on it
[01:08] <Unit193> I'm a fan of Xubuntu. ;)
[01:30] <PCLine__> Can I just install XFCE on what I have?
[01:34] <Unit193> Yes, though if you don't install the xubuntu-core or xubuntu-desktop tasks, it won't have all the nice configuration.
[01:37] <PCLine__> Never mind - I loaded 14.04 so I could have LTS. I will donwload the latest 15 something and try it.
[02:31] <PCLine__> Installing System - Note you must change the boot order in HyperV to install the software!
[17:22] <thafreak> installed 15.10 vanila unity in a VM to try it out...still not a fan...
[17:23] <thafreak> Tried kubuntu 15.10 live on an old laptop, that wasn't horrible...still don't like that weird desktop folder plasma widget thing though
[17:24] <thafreak> Anything else worth trying?
[17:26] <dzho> I've been using xubuntu on a desktop and a laptop and it hasn't been horrible
[17:26] <thafreak> the new werewolf version?
[17:26] * dzho looks up
[17:26] <dzho> oh, I see we've covered xubuntu
[17:27] <dzho> well, mentioned it at least
[17:27] <dzho> probably not any new version, had it for a while now
[17:27] <thafreak> i may give that a shot...
[17:27] <thafreak> and the gnome version
[17:27] <dzho> my firefox crashes a *lot* on the laptop though come to think of it. whether that's xubuntu's fault or not I could say for sure, but I doubt
[17:27] <thafreak> I'm still a fan of gnome-shell on machines that can run it...
[17:28] <thafreak> what version of firefox? is it like the latest?
[17:42] <dzho> probably. rolling releases and all that, right
[21:24] <Unit193> dzho: FWIW, I don't really crash Firefox.
[22:13] <Unit193> You could always use Openbox, thafreak. :D
[23:45] <PCLine__> XUbuntu needs 1024Mb of Ram in my HyperV setup :(
[23:45] <yano> .tw https://twitter.com/TVTye/status/661689924245155840
[23:45] <jenni> LATE ELECTION NIGHT ALERT: Southern Ohio polls w/ stay open til 9p due to early glitches. http://wlwt.tv/6015BP97T @wkyc @wlwt | By: @TVTye, Date: Tue Nov 03 23:42:26 +0000 2015, RT#: 1, Favs: 0
[23:45] <yano> https://vote.ohio.gov/
[23:45] <jenni> [ Ohio Decides - Election Night Reporting ] - https://j.mp/1Q4voJg
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[10:23] <HayderCtee> hello
[10:27] <HayderCtee> any one here !
[10:34] <HayderCtee> i want to help in the graphical design
[14:09] <tkamppeter> mpt, hi
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[09:46] <ariabbas> .
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2015-11-03-#launchpad
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[16:56] <Laney> do devirt PPAs get a score bump? or the ~ci-train-ppa-service ones?
[17:02] <cjwatson> In [1]: set(archive.relative_build_score for archive in lp.people['ci-train-ppa-service'].ppas if not archive.name.startswith('staging-'))
[17:02] <cjwatson> Out[1]: {1500}
[17:02] <cjwatson> Laney: ^-
[17:02] <cjwatson> Laney: for others, it depends
[17:03] <Laney> cjwatson: Ah, thanks, I didn't know about the relative_build_score
[17:04] <Laney> In [1]: lp.distributions['ubuntu'].main_archive.relative_build_score
[17:04] <Laney> Out[1]: 0
[17:04] <Laney> I suppose it's relative to this archive. :)
[17:04] <cjwatson> relative to the base score described by https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/BuildScores
[18:05] <JoBbZ> hey... I forgot my launchpad password. When I have it send me the email to change the password, I go through all the steps (enter the code, put in my new password, submit), it then comes back with an error
[18:05] <JoBbZ> if I have a new email sent, and follow the link... same problem
[18:05] <JoBbZ> i.e., it's currently impossible to change passwords..
[18:18] <cjwatson> JoBbZ: that's actually a separate system that the Launchpad developers don't maintain, for all that it's in the launchpad.net domain. #canonical-sysadmin may be able to help you out
[18:18] <JoBbZ> thanks!
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2015-11-03-#kubuntu
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[00:55] <denza242> is it safe to hotplug/hotremove printers?
[01:25] <Johnny__> hi i need some help with the Kde plasma network manager
[01:27] <Johnny__> the kwlan app cant turn off and turn on specific wifi or ethernet hardware
[02:35] <HULK_> join
[02:35] <HULK_> help
[02:35] <HULK_> what is this?
[02:36] <HULK_> ls
[02:36] <HULK_> ?
[03:27] <jrg> hm
[03:28] <jrg> well.. encrypting the hard drive sure doe bring a string of problems
[03:28] <jrg> like apt requiring the passphrase a thousand times but muon not realizing it
[03:28] <VeryBewitching> Is anyone having an issue where their ktorrent process goes into 'disk sleep' for cpu %?
[03:31] <Fritigern> OH-EM-GEE!!! I've just found out that my .xsession-errors is 19.7 GB!!!!!!!
[03:32] <VeryBewitching> Fritigern: How long have you had that file?
[03:32] <VeryBewitching> Mine's 1.2MB for comparison
[03:32] <Fritigern> Beats me.
[03:33] <Fritigern> Time stamp is 11/2/2015
[03:33] <VeryBewitching> It was probably written to when you started your session.
[03:34] <Fritigern> Trying to figure out what I'll use to read that huge file. any suggetions?
[03:35] <Fritigern> I mean, something is wrong, but I need to know what
[03:35] <VeryBewitching> Look at the contents.
[03:35] <Fritigern> Read wghat I said
[03:35] <VeryBewitching> If you see large swaths of pages that repeat, look at what is generating it.
[03:35] <Fritigern> [19:34:38] [[ Fritigern ]] : Trying to figure out what I'll use to read that huge file. any suggetions?
[03:35] <link2x> Fritigern: maybe use less?
[03:35] <VeryBewitching> tail
[03:36] <VeryBewitching> You could use vi too.
[03:36] <link2x> tail would open near the end
[03:36] <link2x> less opens in parts
[03:36] <VeryBewitching> link2x: tail will show you the most recent errors.
[03:36] <link2x> if you have enough ram you could open it in anything
[03:37] <link2x> VeryBewitching: I know, haha, just stating the purposes, since they do differ
[03:37] <Fritigern> There is a lot of qml related spew
[03:39] <Fritigern> This log is useless. Clearly there is something qml relted going very wrong. But without a pid or file name there is nothing that can be done
[03:41] <VeryBewitching> Fritigern: 1) How do you know it's QML related and 2) If you're certain of that, what QML classes/objects is it logging about?
[03:41] <jrg> wow
[03:42] <Fritigern> How i know? Because it says so! And if it mentioned anything at all, classes or whatnot, it would not be a useless log
[03:43] <Fritigern> VeryBewitching: https://paste.kde.org/pxht7nhmm
[03:43] <Fritigern> That's a mere fragment, but it does not mention any process, class, lib, file name, or what have you
[03:43] <VeryBewitching> Fritigern: Do you have an FPS counter running, perhaps the QML applet?
[03:44] <VeryBewitching> Fritigern: It looks like debugging updates about counts from that plasmoid.
[03:44] <Fritigern> I do not have an fps counter
[03:44] <Fritigern> I wouldn;t know why i would want one anyway
[03:44] <VeryBewitching> Fritigern: One exists.
[03:44] <VeryBewitching> Fritigern: This looks like output that could be from it.
[03:44] <Fritigern> That may be, but i did not question that
[03:49] <Fritigern> Hmmmm.... Besides the qml stuff, I see some console output from a SecondLife viewer. How the ^&%^&%#^$ does that end up in that .xsession-errors?
[04:01] <Fritigern> Looks like the file has been growing at least since 22 Oct. And there is this uptime plasmoid that I am running, I'll bet that one is responsible for the qml spam in the log
[09:04] <gombean> is it possible to set up my gmail accounts on kmail? It won't log in and google sent me an email about an application trying to log into my account which "does not meet modern security standards"....!??
[09:09] <soee> gombean: somethig liek mentioned here: https://plus.google.com/+ThiagoAderaldo/posts/UvA4TnZNFbh ?
[09:19] <gombean> soee: that's the exact one, yeah
[09:23] <gombean> soee: thanks for the pointer, one down 3 to go... yawn
[09:27] <soee> ;)
[09:49] <tzvika> trying to upgrade to 15.04 from 14.04
[09:49] <tzvika> getting could not calculate the upgrade error message
[09:49] <tzvika> any idea?
[10:01] <tzvika> i see a lot of baloo-kf5 messages
[10:20] <dv_> anybody else noticed that when logging in in 15.10, the splash screen stays there for quite some time even though apparently the system already started? its as if some timer is blocking it
[10:22] <hateball> dv_: it is a known bug
[10:22] <gombean> dv_: I just disabled mine in settings
[10:23] <hateball> dv_: probably https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-nm/+bug/1509334
[10:23] <gombean> dv_ but my plasma-panel takes about a minute to fully appear too. I just open programs with alt+f2 when I log infirst
[10:23] <dv_> sooo this is bluetooth related? hm I could try to unplug my USB dongle
[10:24] <hateball> dv_: it doesnt matter if you have it enabled or not, if you read the bug
[10:24] <hateball> the problem is that something hangs when plasma-nm checks if you have bluetooth or not
[10:24] <gombean> enabled/disabled/present/not-present no diff
[10:24] <voicu> Hi guys. I'm on 15.04 and I notice that when a program is doing heavy IO the whole kde desktop hangs...
[10:24] <voicu> I know IO is problematic usually but the screen doesn't get any updates at all
[10:25] <hateball> dv_: anyhow a patch should be released in a few days
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:47] <Smurphy> Hia BluesKaj ...
[12:48] <Smurphy> Fixed my kmail problem, well, circumvented the problem.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey Smurphy, good , a workaround of some sort ?
[12:54] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: yes. The hang came from the Password UI not showing up. Actually, the Send and Password UI tried to take control of the UI - and that hang it.
[12:54] <Smurphy> after "storing" the password, that problem went away.
[12:55] <Smurphy> The VA-API stuf, I circumvented by actually configuring vlc to not use the automatic Codec playback, but the VA-API via DRM.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, thanks for the expalnation about the vlc codec choice, good to know
[12:59] <Smurphy> :} well, at least one thing ;)
[13:00] <BluesKaj> well, in case we see a simialr problem in the future
[13:00] <BluesKaj> similar even
[13:05] <Smurphy> yep.
[13:31] <BlackMage> what is xenial?
[13:36] <BlackMage> the kubuntu daily called xenial-desktop-arch.iso, what is xenial?
[13:39] <BlackMage> I can not find anything about xenial
[13:39] <lordievader> Xenial is the codename for 16.04
[13:39] <BlackMage> okay
[13:41] <Pici> /50
[13:41] <Pici> !xenial
[13:47] <BlackMage> So in 16.04 there is no KDE ?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> of course there is
[13:49] <BlackMage> really?!
[13:50] <BluesKaj> the bot gives the url for ubuntu , not kubuntu which is silly for this chat
[13:51] <BluesKaj> BlackMage, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[13:54] <BlackMage> BluesKaj: xenial-desktop iso´s no kubuntu-desktop iso´s
[13:57] <BluesKaj> BlackMage, if you already have ubuntu 16.04, then just install kubuntu-desktop
[13:58] <BluesKaj> there are no kubuntu -desktop isos , just like there are no ubuntu-desktop isos, BlackMage
[13:59] <BluesKaj> the kubuntu-desktop is included in the kubuntu-iso... don't think of it as a ppa
[14:01] <BlackMage> there is no kubuntu-iso only a xenial-desktop iso
[14:02] <BluesKaj> BlackMage, do you wany kubuntu or not ? it includes kde/kubuntu-desktop , do you uinderstand?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> want
[14:03] <BlackMage> BluesKaj: yes i understand
[14:04] <BluesKaj> to be clear, kubuntu xenial iso contains kde, kubuntu-desktop, all associated kde and plasma applications and packages
[14:06] <BlackMage> BluesKaj: why it is not so named ?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> so named , how?
[14:07] <BlackMage> kubuntu instead of xenial
[14:09] <BlackMage> BluesKaj: or is it a all-in-one ISO?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> it's called kubuntu xenial because it's the latest developmentr version, the official current vers ion is called kubuntu wily
[14:10] <BluesKaj> yes , all in one
[14:12] <BlackMage> so no (k,x,l)ubuntu more? only all-in-one?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> BlackMage, they are all flavours of ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu , kubuntu , and all have their own isos and deskktop environments
[14:15] <BluesKaj> so there is no iso containing all , each flavour is separate
[14:15] <BlackMage> BluesKaj: ok
[14:15] <BluesKaj> like kubuntu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu
[14:23] <BlackMage> BluesKaj: and the Alpha´s Beta´s will built also for there?
[14:52] <Smurphy> Doh.... knode has heen dumped, damn... I loved it.
[15:00] <svend-ev> Good morning
[15:05] <rodolfojcj> hello everybody
[15:05] <rodolfojcj> since Kubuntu 15.04 I'm suffering the same bug described at http://www.eenyhelp.com/bug-794126-plasma-widgets-addons-digital-clock-widget-does-not-show-proper-time-help-215759130.html
[15:06] <rodolfojcj> after upgrading to Kubuntu 15.10 the bug is still present
[15:06] <rodolfojcj> it's about Digital Clock taskbar widget showing the wrong time for Venezuela time zone
[15:07] <rodolfojcj> the Fuzzy Clock is the only one that shows an approximate right value
[15:07] <BluesKaj> rodolfojcj, open a terminal and do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:08] <rodolfojcj> BluesKaj: I did as you said. No luck :(
[15:09] <rodolfojcj> Digital clock shows exactly +1 hour of difference
[15:10] <BluesKaj> perhaps a relogin
[15:10] <rodolfojcj> I'll try...
[15:10] <rodolfojcj> I'll be back in a while...
[15:15] <cor_r> hey everyone, before switching to kubuntu I#d like to know whether there is MS exchange support through kmail or the webaccounts applet?!?
[15:16] <yossarianuk> cor_r: I do not believe so (may be wrong)
[15:17] <yossarianuk> for exchange support I have used both evolution and thunderbird )with plugin)
[15:17] <yossarianuk> exchange is horrible.
[15:17] <cor_r> yossarianuk yes, but I wanted to use something native to KDE. And yes, it is horrible need it for work though
[15:18] <yossarianuk> someone may know better .... I have never used kmail really.
[15:18] <cor_r> thank u anyways :)
[15:19] <yossarianuk> cor_r: this may help (or not) -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22977/can-i-connect-to-my-companys-exchange-server-through-kontact
[15:20] <yossarianuk> also https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78629
[15:21] <yossarianuk> Really its only the browser and email client (I now use gmail anyway) that i don't use native kdm apps.
[15:21] <yossarianuk> *kde*
[15:21] <yossarianuk> there is a good browser(ish) thats QTbased
[15:22] <yossarianuk> Qupzilla
[15:22] <yossarianuk> (but not compatible with all sites - ie trello)
[15:22] <rodolfojcj> I'm back
[15:23] <rodolfojcj> no, Digital Clock continues giving me the wrong time
[15:23] <cor_r> thank you very much yossarianuk Ill try davmail, otherwise Ill have to switch back again. why are were u talking about qupzilla though?
[15:23] <rodolfojcj> definitely there's a bug
[15:29] <yossarianuk> just mentioning that the few apps that i use that are not kde native are browser+email client
[15:40] <yossarianuk> really KDE needs a good QT browser...
[15:56] <Smurphy> Have you tried Konqueror ?
[15:56] <Smurphy> yossarianuk: it is a web-browser.
[15:59] <AndCh> Checking phone
[16:08] <AndCh> Check nick
[16:08] <AndCh> Wrong
[17:30] <m-ka> Hello. I has problem with show all on kubuntu 14.04 (after last update). Screenshot: http://prntscr.com/8ymffr How fix it?
[18:13] <denza242> D:
[18:14] <denza242> so for some reason apport/drkonqi is popping up everywhere
[18:14] <denza242> like, when i normally close say, kinfocenter, i get either a drkonqi or a apport message
[18:14] <denza242> heck, once when i closed drkonqi, i got a drkonqi thing for the instance of drkonqi i closed
[18:25] <Smurphy> denza242: lol. Big fail.
[19:05] <supermanintights> hi does anyone have experience with dual screens, using a laptop and vga cable?
[19:07] <supermanintights> using kubuntu system settings, i can't get it to display on my laptop and second screen as extended display. it only displays on second screen, and shows laptop as disabled, no matter how many times i try to enable and position it before the second screen, it just seems to logs me out, then gives a "kdrunner has crashed" box
[19:11] <Chaser> supermanintights: Did you try xrandr ?
[19:12] <supermanintights> no, i saw that on the arch wiki. is it something i need to download
[19:13] <Smurphy> supermanintights: which Version you using ? under 15.04 it works. 15.10 I didn't try.
[19:13] <Chaser> !info xrandr
[19:14] <supermanintights> Smurphy: 15.10
[19:14] <Chaser> Ah its part of x11-xserver-utils
[19:14] <supermanintights> is that what i need to apt-get Chaser?
[19:14] <Smurphy> I think that if Display configuration menue does not work, it won't be easy to get it to work.
[19:15] <Smurphy> xrandr is installed with plasma...
[19:15] <supermanintights> it was working ok, although when i try my laptop's keyboard shortcut to display change it was a bit interesting the different display options - however it was working fine last night when i set it to second screen only, but despite several restart attempts and fixes, it won't go back to extended now
[19:15] <supermanintights> oh, i just saw "run xrandr"
[19:15] <supermanintights> will try now
[19:16] <supermanintights> so as someone who is familiar with linux - ubuntu and mint, what should i bear in mind with KDE/kubuntu?
[19:16] <supermanintights> Any particular tips/suggestions?
[19:18] <supermanintights> Smurphy: i run xrandr in console, and get this output https://ptpb.pw/mFiy
[19:21] <Smurphy> so he detected both screens.
[19:21] <Smurphy> You need to configure the type of screens to use. Clone, or big surface etc.
[19:22] <Smurphy> Sorry, have to go feed the kids. Be back later ...
[19:22] <supermanintights> is big surface the same as 'extend' display - so i can use 2 screens worth of space, with each having their own individual resolution?
[19:22] <supermanintights> ok no problem, thanks for the tip
[19:39] <Supermanintights> So unfortunately I have the same problem even when I use randr
[19:40] <rodolfojcj> hi!
[19:40] <Supermanintights> hi
[19:41] <rodolfojcj> is there someone here to give a hand hunting a bug with Digital Clock plasmoid?
[19:41] <rodolfojcj> I'm reviewing that plasmoids's QML files
[19:41] <rodolfojcj> and I've identified a line where it's returrning the wrong time offset (in seconds) for my timezone
[19:42] <rodolfojcj> so, that seems to be the reason that the Digital Clock displays a wrong time
[20:03] <Supermanintights> does anyone have any experience with Kontact - the mail client seems to be running really slow, and only has emails up to august of this year, nothing newer showing in inbox
[20:03] <rodolfojcj> here I am again
[20:04] <rodolfojcj> regarding a bug with Digital Clock showing the wrong time for Caracas timezone, that's a known bug that has been solved
[20:05] <rodolfojcj> and according with https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343610 and https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/120779/ this has been solved for Qt Core 5.5
[20:06] <rodolfojcj> and Kubuntu 15.10 ships Qt Core version 5.4
[20:06] <rodolfojcj> is it possible for the Kubuntu package maintainers to backport that solution that solvest that bug?
[20:07] <rodolfojcj> note that is not only Caracas timezone that is affected, but several timezones that have a fractional part
[21:35] <jrg> sorry but i lose track of these names
[21:35] <jrg> what is kubuntu 15.10 called?
[21:36] <jrg> the codename
[21:36] <Unit193> WIly Warewolf
[21:36] <Unit193> !15.10
[21:36] <Unit193> ...I can't spell.
[21:36] <jrg> ah ok
[21:36] <jrg> any tor instructions somewhere?
[21:36] * genii feeds Unit193 a nice strong Robusta blend
[21:36] <Unit193> What do you mean, jrg?
[21:37] <genii> Freenode no longer works with tor, it was being abused too much
[21:37] <jrg> wow really?
[21:37] <genii> Yes
[21:37] <jrg> thought you had to register for tor on fnode
[21:38] <jrg> i have a spare laptop.. was just curious if it was possible to make it anonymous all around. not really for doing anything special but just to see if it can be done
[21:40] <genii> jrg: https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/status/564848187710906368 ...been off since then
[21:40] <Unit193> jrg: Correct, and there were people trying to brute force accounts with it, and you couldn't block them. You may also want to look into VPNs?
[21:41] <jrg> Unit193: possibly. i'll look at those later. no big deal.. just wanted to play a bit with it
[21:48] <jrg> ls
[21:48] <jrg> oops
[21:59] <AndyMan1> Hi, when KDE Applications 15.12 is released, will it be included in Kubuntu 15.10, or will I have to wait till 16.04 to see those changes?
[22:52] <Unit193> It's dolomite, baby!
[23:47] <jrg> genii: interesting thing about the tor stuff. bit strange tho.
[23:50] <genii> jrg: Since Freenode is a network supposedly for the main purpose of work on open-source and other similar projects, the majority of users really don't have a requirement for anonymity to begin with.
[23:51] <genii> So it's not a great loss
[23:56] <jrg> I suppose. Then again... people can exchange exploit code in order to prevent issues. I would guess that reverse engineering things might fall into the category of wanting anonymity. But who knows. There seem to be quite a few channels on freenode not dedicated to code at all. like the reddit-sports channels
[23:56] <jrg> anyways tho. not really a topic for #kubuntu ;)
[23:57] <jrg> i managed to get tor installed in it tho. i was just working on making a 100% anonymous kubuntu laptop. just to see if it were possible.
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2015-11-03-#snappy
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[08:07] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:36] <Sam_> First time to be here, hello everyone.
[09:26] <clobrano> good morning
[09:26] <clobrano> is there any snap available for the network manager?
[10:18] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Sandwich Day! 😃
[11:29] <mvo> jdstrand: I started with the snappy policygen --compare branch, just a quick question about apparmor_profile - p - I understand that I need to take the old policy, write the new policy to a tempfile and then run both of them via apparmor_profile -p and compare if they are still identical?
[14:11] <balloons> elopio, fgimenez all ready for http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22623/testing-snappy/?
[14:12] <elopio> balloons: all ready.
[14:12] <fgimenez> balloons, elopio yep, ready :)
[14:16] <balloons> elopio, fgimenez and you know how to setup the hangout and everything right
[14:42] <elopio> balloons: yes, no problem with that.
[14:45] <balloons> brillant
[14:58] <mvo> jdstrand: I looked at apparmor_parser -p again and I think I need a hand. it seems in order for this to work I would have to store something (hash?) of the flattended profile at profile generation time. and then compare the stored hash with a hash of apparmor_profile -p tmp_new_profile (?)
[15:10] <ogra_> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22623/testing-snappy/ will soon be on air ....
[15:23] <jdstrand> mvo: re apparmor_parser -p, yes you are right. I don't think we want to do anything expensive though-- perhaps just apparmor_parser -p after install and save that off somewhere, then we can do a diff /saved/off /tmp/new || updateStuff
[15:24] <jdstrand> mvo: we should probably think about that a bit
[15:26] <mvo> jdstrand: ok, easy enough to add later I assume
[15:27] <jdstrand> mvo: well, yes and no. we have to deal with the apparmor package updates that have changes to the abstractions.
[15:28] <jdstrand> we could just unconditionally invalidate everything
[15:28] <jdstrand> which is basically what happens now, but that has always been a pain point
[15:28] <mvo> jdstrand: I mean we can add it later this week :)
[15:28] <jdstrand> ah
[15:28] <jdstrand> yes
[15:29] <jdstrand> mvo: fyi, I looked at your first patch yesterday and I thought it looked good. I didn't do more than read it yet
[15:29] <mvo> jdstrand: or next week, I mean when you have time to guide me
[15:29] <jdstrand> mvo: the main thing is I want it clean and it needs to be a cheap check
[15:30] <jdstrand> mvo: on personal people easily have 100 profiles
[15:31] <jdstrand> mvo: but, we do have a cheap check by storing off the version-- if the version didn't change, avoid everything
[15:31] <jdstrand> if it did change, then we try the regenerated policy, then if that is the same, try the -p
[15:33] <mvo> jdstrand: hm, what exactly is "version"?
[15:33] <mvo> in this context
[15:33] <mvo> jdstrand: tell me if you don't have time, we can talk later of course
[16:46] <jdstrand> mvo: sorry, I got pulled away. in a meeting now, but will respond
[16:46] <mvo> jdstrand: thanks
[16:46] <jdstrand> mvo: cheap check for storing off the version> I was talking about in the card where I talk about saving the version of apparmor and ubuntu-core-security* that are installed
[16:47] <jdstrand> mvo: if none of them change, do nothing
[16:47] <mvo> jdstrand: I pushed a --regenerate-all branch now too, some feedbcak would be great, need to add some tests, then it should be good to know and I'm keen to hear what is missing before we can replace the current aa-clickhook
[16:47] <mvo> jdstrand: aha, storing the package versions? that makes sense
[16:47] <jdstrand> mvo: if they do change, do the --compare
[16:47] <jdstrand> mvo: and then update the 'versions file'
[16:47] <mvo> jdstrand: I thought we would do the --regenerate-all on each boot, no?
[16:48] <jdstrand> mvo: well, it depends on what it does. these things can affect boot speed and we have a number of checks today to not affect boot speed unless we have to
[16:49] <jdstrand> mvo: so I didn't want to regress on that
[16:49] <jdstrand> mvo: without looking at your branch, if it were smart enough, '--regenerate-all --compare' could be done on every boot
[16:49] <mvo> jdstrand: right, so it will create a temp profile for each snap, cmpare with the installed one and re-generate for real if they are different
[16:50] <jdstrand> mvo: right
[16:50] <mvo> not sure how slow that is though
[16:50] <jdstrand> mvo: we need to be thinking about potentially hundreds of profiles
[16:50] <jdstrand> mvo: which is why I wanted that cheap check too
[16:51] <jdstrand> mvo: only run --regenerate-all --compare only if the system policy changed
[16:51] <mvo> jdstrand: right, so i can add this and only call --regen is the versions of apparmor and ubuntu-core-security** change
[16:51] <jdstrand> that sounds good
[16:51] <mvo> jdstrand: that is what you mean I assume?
[16:51] <mvo> jdstrand: cool, I will work on this next
[16:51] <jdstrand> mvo: btw, thanks you so much for helping out with all this :)
[16:52] <mvo> jdstrand: oh, thank you! and I can't wait to hear what else is missing before we can enter the brave-new-world
[16:53] <jdstrand> mvo: I'm finding it difficult to review these in a timely fashion between the sprint and UOS, but know I will get to it :)
[16:55] <jdstrand> mvo: (or put another way, the patches are coming in faster than I can review them atm, but I will get to them :)
[16:55] <mvo> jdstrand: no worries, I know how it is
[16:56] <mvo> jdstrand: even tiny reviews (like general direction looks valid) are useful. or your suggestion to use the version-compare to speed stuff up. and of course what else is missing :)
[16:56] <mvo> jdstrand: I can ask other people like Chipaca (sorry!) to do the in-depth code review
[16:56] <jdstrand> mvo: ok, cool. keep firing questions at me and I'll respond as quickly as I can :)
[16:57] <mvo> jdstrand: anyway, I get dinner now, thanks for your help and keep me updated about your findings
[17:06] <ricmm> mm
[17:36] <jdstrand> mvo: unfortunately I had a meeting conflict with the frameworks UOS session
[19:00] <tedg> mterry: we were talking a bit about manifest.txt and the packages in there, where is that list from? Just the ubuntu-core packages?
[19:00] <tedg> We were thinking it made sense to reduce the set some.
[19:00] <tedg> Specifically to drop libstdc++, but perhaps others as well.
[19:01] <ogra_> tedg, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily-preinstalled/current/ ?
[19:02] <tedg> ogra_: very close: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/blob/master/snapcraft/manifest.txt
[19:02] <ogra_> heh
[19:03] <tedg> mterry: Not sure if you saw my ping (or were trying to avoid it ;-) )
[19:03] <mterry> tedg, no I didn't see it!
[19:03] <tedg> mterry: we were talking a bit about manifest.txt and the packages in there, where is that list from? Just the ubuntu-core packages?
[19:04] <tedg> We were thinking it made sense to reduce the set some.
[19:04] <tedg> Specifically to drop libstdc++, but perhaps others as well.
[19:04] <mterry> tedg, you're talking in terms of deb2snap?
[19:05] <tedg> mterry: Initially, but today snapcraft: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/blob/master/snapcraft/manifest.txt
[19:07] <mterry> tedg, my IRC connection is crap today. "you're talking in terms of deb2snap?"
[19:07] <tedg> mterry: Initially, but today snapcraft: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/blob/master/snapcraft/manifest.txt
[19:08] <mterry> tedg, oh yeah! That was just a copy of ubuntu-core at the time. It was a shortcut to a more dynamic solution
[19:08] <tedg> mterry: Do you have a specific reason for particular packages?
[19:09] <mterry> tedg, I don't *think* I edited the list
[19:09] <tedg> mterry: Okay, we didn't know how much experience and pain was involved :-)
[19:10] <mterry> tedg, no, and my intent was eventually to make it targetted (like if snapcraft can say "make me a snap for 15.04" we'd get the manifest for 15.04). But yeah, short term I just copied the manifest.txt
[19:11] <tedg> mterry: I think that long term it shouldn't matter, the only thing you pull in is bash and libc, eh?
[19:12] <mterry> tedg, well if my snap uses libudev1 and snappy 16.10 uses libudev2, snapcraft needs to know that it can't depend on it from the system anymore and bundle it
[19:12] <mterry> (or just build for libudev2)
[19:13] <mterry> (or just always bundle it)
[19:13] <tedg> mterry: I think we want it to bundle always
[19:13] <tedg> Yeah
[19:13] <mterry> tedg, OK then you want to probably modify manifest.txt to the actual promised "always-there" libraries that Snappy promises
[19:14] <tedg> mterry: Okay, I don't think we've explicitly said which, but I think generally it's "not much"
[19:14] <mterry> tedg, which is not something I was aware we had a list of -- what sort of promises we make to snaps
[19:14] <tedg> The one that is killing today is the GCC migration.
[19:14] <tedg> For C++
[19:14] <mterry> tedg, well exactly -- even stuff we would have though would never change sometimes change :)
[20:22] <tedg> elopio: is there a way to build all the examples?
[20:22] <tedg> (in snapcraft)
[20:28] <asac> stgraber: i vaguely recall seeing a busybox image you put out when I tested lxd ... do you have pointer to that again? how is that build?
[20:29] <stgraber> lxd-images import busybox --alias busybox
[20:29] <stgraber> assuming that you do have the busybox binary on your system as it builds it from your local system
[20:29] <ogra_> that will likely only get you the initramfs busybox
[20:30] <ogra_> (which is cut down)
[20:31] <stgraber> it's looking for /bin/busybox specifically so if it doesn't exist, it'll fail to create the busybox image
[20:31] <stgraber> note that we only really have this for our own testsuite's use and it's going away in 16.04, so not something we really support (busybox hardly counts as a Linux distro) :)
[20:32] <ogra_> oh, i know embedded people that would disagree with that statement :)
[20:33] <stgraber> I guess you can turn it into some kind of distro with a fair amount of shell script added on top, but with just the busybox binary, you get a mostly broken init system (doesn't handle all signals properly) which doesn't even bring up network for you
[20:33] <asac> stgraber: oh... thought you had an image for download
[20:34] <stgraber> nah, busybox is specifically used in environments where we can't download stuff or where we shouldn't (our testsuite)
[20:35] <asac> hmm. lxd wasnt SRUed to 14.04 yet it seems :)
[20:36] <ogra_> yeah, i noticed that today too :(
[20:36] <asac> hah ... so i am not alone running LTS :)
[20:36] <ogra_> my desktop always runs lts ... my laptop always latest release
[20:38] <stgraber> it's in backports
[20:38] <stgraber> apt-get -t trusty-backports install lxd
[20:38] <ogra_> who uses that !
[20:38] <ogra_> :)
[20:38] <asac> yeah thats kind of same as ppa
[20:38] <asac> does it work on 3.13?
[20:38] <stgraber> it does
[20:38] <ogra_> sigh ... i wasted my whole day trying to get live-build to behave
[20:38] <ogra_> another build failure and i'm out of ideas
[20:39] <asac> ogra_: its not wasted... now you know what you tried did not work :)
[20:39] <ogra_> asac, i'm poking in the dark here
[20:39] <asac> ogra_: do you have a busybox image? :)
[20:40] <ogra_> if i do exactly the same steps in a local chroot everything is fine ... if i run them under live-build the env is somehow so garbled up that the kernel package doesnt generate its initrd
[20:40] <ogra_> asac, heh, no
[20:40] <ogra_> stgraber, what do you use for these lxd images ?
[20:41] <ogra_> to create them i mean
[20:41] <stgraber> ogra_: "import ubuntu" uses cloud images. "import busybox" just takes your local busybox and dumps it into a tarball along with a few symlinks
[20:42] <ogra_> and how are these cloud images created ?
[20:42] * ogra_ is desparately looking for a way away from live-build ... its such a pain
[21:03] <ogra_> oh man !
[21:04] * ogra_ slaps forehead
[21:53] <elopio> tedg: the examples plainbox suite is doing that. But in the end is a for calling snapcraft build on each dir.
[21:54] <tedg> elopio: Oh, I just added a shell script
[21:54] <tedg> https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/74/files
[21:55] <elopio> tedg: that might be useful.
[21:55] <elopio> tedg: Take a look at ./runtests.sh plainbox examples
[21:57] <tedg> elopio: Ah, basically the same thing.
[21:57] <tedg> I like to say mine thinks outside the box though ;-)
[21:58] <elopio> tedg: of course, yours is unique and special ;)
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[04:47] <Xethron> Good morning good morning, hello Everybody!
[05:02] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:01] <magespawn> good morning
[06:33] <mazal> Mornings
[06:35] <magespawn> hi mazal
[06:35] <mazal> How goes magespawn ?
[06:37] <magespawn> good and you?
[06:37] <mazal> Ok thanx
[06:38] <mazal> Looking forward to May. Want a new Ubuntu
[07:10] <magespawn> got to go out, chat later all
[07:49] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[08:01] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:02] <inetpro> reminder: Ubuntu Online Summit starting at 16:00 today
[09:17] <pieter2627> mazal: Want a new Ubuntu?
[09:20] <mazal> pieter2627: Yes , the next LTS
[09:20] <mazal> I only use LTS
[09:21] <pieter2627> oh, that sounds like a boring wait :)
[10:25] <ShadowComplex> hi hi
[10:44] <pieter2627> hi ShadowComplex
[13:04] <Kilos> afternoon superfly thatgraemeguy Cryterion inetpro ShadowComplex and others
[13:09] <thatgraemeguy> 'lo
[13:13] <inetpro> .
[13:31] <superfly> hi Kilos
[13:32] <pieter2627> hallo oom Kilos
[13:40] <Kilos> dag se pietertjie
[13:49] <pieter2627> hoe gaan dit met oom
[13:49] <pieter2627> *?
[13:53] <magespawn> good afternoon
[14:00] <Kilos> goed dankie en self seun
[14:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[14:01] <Kilos> im going soon to have papers notarised so will bbl
[14:10] <magespawn> cool
[14:10] <magespawn> anybody know of a command/program that will display a clock in the terminal
[14:10] <magespawn> ?
[14:15] <magespawn> this is a pretty cool 404 https://github.com/wekan/wekan/issues/380
[14:19] <Kilos> aw tomorrow
[14:20] <Kilos> bad when one has to plan trips according to petrol price fluctuation
[14:26] <magespawn> is there a petrol price decrease?
[14:28] <Kilos> decrease tonight
[14:28] <magespawn> okay then
[14:28] <Kilos> havent seen how much yet
[14:37] <Kilos> sis says radio said 26c a litre
[14:41] <magespawn> okay, not too much, but every little bit helps
[14:41] <Kilos> yip
[14:42] <magespawn> chat later just going home
[14:42] <Kilos> go well
[15:18] <pieter2627> goed dankie Kilos
[15:18] * pieter2627 hopes to be back later
[16:22] <Kilos> snow on the berg and lesotho in november
[18:31] <Kilos> haha superfly whats with all the monkeying around
[18:31] <superfly> Kilos: I don't monkey around. They around me.
[18:31] <Kilos> lol
[18:32] <Kilos> i enjoy your pics and comments ty
[18:45] <magespawn> good evening
[18:49] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[18:49] <Kilos> you arrive when im getting ready for bed
[18:50] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:21] <magespawn> ahh i one of those night
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2015-11-03-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:13] <yofel> sgclark, marco-parillo: that looks about right
[00:15] <sgclark> k
[00:15] <sgclark> ty
[02:10] <snele> sgclark: qtcurve installs and works fine now. thank you for rebuilding it
[09:05] <mgraesslin> sorry my fault ;-)
[09:07] <sitter> actually ours
[09:07] <sitter> also yours though
[09:07] <mgraesslin> it also failed on KDE CI
[09:07] <mgraesslin> so my fault
[09:07] <sitter> yeah, just saw
[09:08] <sitter> I thought it was the pile of red kci has been for weeks :(
[09:09] <mgraesslin> meh that sucks
[09:09] <mgraesslin> I should just upgrade minimum epoxy version ;-)
[09:10] <sitter> :O
[09:14] <mgraesslin> compile fix pushed
[09:24] <mgraesslin> on kde ci it compiles again
[09:34] <sitter> won't compile on kci though as kwayland doesn't build on account of not having qt5.5 I think https://launchpadlibrarian.net/223711698/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kwayland_4%3A5.4.2%2Bgit20151030.0058%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:34] <sitter> anwyway
[09:34] * sitter away
[11:57] <shadeslayer> jmux: any news on the BSP?
[11:59] <jmux> shadeslayer: I'm waiting for my last approval from the hierarchy, which should happen tomorrow. I'm waiting for mor people to sign up in the doodle
[11:59] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[12:00] <shadeslayer> jmux: did you send it out? I don't think I saw it on the mailing lists
[12:00] <jmux> But everything looks ok, so I really expect this to happen, whatever WE is choosen
[12:03] <jmux> shadeslayer: Well I wrote to the people which normally forwarded the info (Riddell, mbanck, Swee5hark, mbolander, hefee, ...), as I'm not subscribted to the lists
[12:04] <jmux> But feel free to post the info wherever you think it's appropriate
[12:04] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[12:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: happy birthday! :D
[12:17] <ghostcube> o.O yofel has birthday today?
[12:22] <yofel> shadeslayer: thanks! :D
[12:22] <yofel> ghostcube: yes ;)
[12:22] <ghostcube> http://www.grusskartenkaufen.de/images/produkte/i41/4166.jpg yofel
[12:22] <ghostcube> :D
[12:22] <yofel> hahaha XD
[12:29] <soee> happy birthday yofel :) http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2479107/birthday-gif-o.gif
[12:30] <yofel> heh, thanks :D
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:41] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hey soee
[12:46] <yofel> ahoneybun: sorry, took a while until I had time to look into the bootstrap theme import, but now your content is on http://docs.kubuntu.org/sphinx/ - please check if something's missing or wrong, otherwise ping me and I'll move it to the root folder
[12:47] <ahoneybun> :)
[12:47] <ahoneybun> np yofel and happy bday
[12:47] <yofel> thanks :)
[12:47] <ahoneybun> it looks all good to me
[12:49] <yofel> ok, let me move it then
[12:50] <yofel> moved
[12:50] <ahoneybun> that was fast
[12:50] <ahoneybun> lol
[12:50] <yofel> well, it was 2 shell commands :P
[12:51] <ahoneybun> XD
[12:51] <ahoneybun> yofel: http://docs.kubuntu.org/_sources/docs/installation.txt
[12:51] <ahoneybun> just text :)
[12:51] <yofel> yeah, RST is certainly more readable than docbook..
[12:53] <ahoneybun> yea that was a +1 for sure about using it
[12:53] <ahoneybun> yofel: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6zAAODZFwQ2MzY4aWVkbFVBRkk/view?usp=sharing
[12:54] <ahoneybun> epub :)
[12:54] <ahoneybun> works in Google Play Books app
[12:55] <ahoneybun> g2g bbl
[12:55] <yofel> I think that would fit great into an "Alternative content" section or so
[12:55] <yofel> hm, the Search is a bit weird as it shows the source file content in the page excerpt..
[12:56] <yofel> but that's minor issues
[13:11] <yofel> ahoneybun: I don't think much has changed since trusty, but do you think it would make sense to provide both $latest and $latest-lts docs? (After all we do promote both on the download page)
[13:12] <yofel> maybe adding a link to the old docs (the folder is still there) would solve that for now?
[14:00] <allee> for a quick(!) test of a kwin upstream patch: What do I have to make this work: patch < ../try-me.diff; debuild
[14:01] <allee> I would like to avaid adding quilt machinery for the test
[14:03] <yofel> between those commands run "dpkg-source --commit", that'll auto-create a quilt patch
[14:04] <yofel> alternatively, set debian/source/format to "3.0 (native)", then it'll ignore the tarball
[14:04] <allee> yofel: thx, trying ...
[14:10] <santa_> allee: just in case you are very very very veteran and you didn't notice: with the source format 3.0 (quilt) you don't have to add any quilt machinery; while the source format is called "3.0 (quilt)" quilt isn't needed to build the package, so you would just need to do something like
[14:10] <santa_> echo "try-me.diff" >> debian/patches/series
[14:10] <santa_> cp ../try-me.diff debian/patches/
[14:11] <santa_> and that should work out of the box as long as the patch is -p1 iirc
[14:11] <yofel> it should, yes
[14:14] <allee> santa_: interesting. Looks like I'm very very very veteran :-) Since format 3.0 was introduced I had almost no time for packaging
[14:15] <santa_> aha
[14:15] <santa_> for the record my favourite way to do what you did is just quilt import /path/to/patch
[14:16] <santa_> note that it doesn't require to change debian/rules or adding quilt to build depends
[14:16] <santa_> allee: welcome to the future :P :)
[14:19] * allee hides in his stone age cave
[14:22] <sgclark> Happy birthday yofel!
[14:23] <allee> yofel: All the best!!
[14:23] <yofel> sgclark, allee: thanks! :)
[14:33] <sgclark> yofel: 4.14.3 to backports? or another day testing?
[14:36] <allee> sgclark: trusty? with ppa? I can check/test them on my work computer if you want
[14:38] <yofel> I think we've tested what we could. It didn't explode on me in KVM and I can't find any more package upgrade problems
[14:39] <yofel> don't forget to update l10n though
[14:39] <sgclark> yofel: I tried and it was already updated. apparently by you
[14:40] <yofel> huh?
[14:40] <yofel> uhm, ok, looking
[14:41] <sgclark> looks like it was to fix a bug
[14:41] <sgclark> allee: staging-kdeapplications is the ppa for trusty
[14:41] <yofel> all the things I do that I don't know of, how amazing
[14:42] <sgclark> lol
[14:42] <sgclark> ditto
[14:42] <yofel> ok, joking aside. I don't see 4.14.3 in lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-trusty-backports
[14:43] <sgclark> cuz it is in kde-l10n-common-trusty
[14:43] <yofel> aaaah
[14:44] <yofel> wait
[14:45] <yofel> sgclark: that's 4.13.3, not 4.14.3
[14:45] <yofel> the -backports branch has 4.14.2 from you as the latest
[14:45] <sgclark> oh hah dislexia lol
[14:46] <sgclark> ok updating :)
[14:47] <yofel> I was wondering already because I made that annyoing branching scheme exactly to not mess that stuff up
[14:49] <yofel> oh, UOS started already. Time flies..
[14:52] <sgclark> ugh, when is ours?
[14:54] <yofel> 19:00 UTC (in ~4h) according to the schedule
[14:55] <sgclark> oh good grief
[14:56] <mamarley> What's a UOS?
[14:56] <sgclark> ubuntu online summit
[14:56] <yofel> the "we have no money so lets say that meeting online is easier for people all around the world" version of the developer summit
[14:57] <yofel> mamarley: today's schedule if you're curious http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/2015-11-03/
[14:59] <yofel> I'll try to prepare some items to talk about once I get home.. lets see who shows up
[15:03] * shadeslayer has a flipping headache, not moi
[15:13] <sgclark> I have not slept well in days, so will likely skip the videon part, but will be there on headset
[15:14] <sgclark> video*
[15:15] <genii> Will there be a presentation of some sort for UOS?
[15:16] <yofel> there was a CI showcase session at least
[15:16] <yofel> not sure if the plasma mobile one is going to happen
[15:53] <marco-parillo> I also see this: https://plus.google.com/+RickTimmis/posts/Bwc6ZhmGeCT timed with UOS, I think.
[15:54] <yofel> the timing is coincidence, they always do it on the first wednesday of a month
[15:54] <yofel> good timing indeed though ;P
[16:00] <pursuivant> muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.2-10-ga24e495 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend (3 files)
[16:00] <pursuivant> Batch resource package id's
[16:00] <pursuivant> This way we make sure it stays consistent
[16:00] <pursuivant> BUG: 354562
[16:00] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/a24e495c2eea95e76b1389bdffaf27e30d7e273a
[16:00] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-161-gcbb878f * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend/PackageKitResource.h
[16:00] <pursuivant> const will be const
[16:00] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/cbb878fa24554b4309527af2b946253c4cca2c0f
[16:00] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-164-gd717480 * Aleix Pol: (4 files in 2 dirs)
[16:00] <pursuivant> Merge branch 'Plasma/5.4'
[16:00] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/d717480bafa1b152f499ee1409a193be35c57a2f
[16:05] <sgclark> kl10n uploaded for trusty, afk till uos meeting, that is 2 hours now right yofel?
[16:05] <yofel> 3 I think. run "date -u" in konsole and then see when 19:00 UTC is for you
[16:06] <sgclark> ahh 3 even better, thanks
[16:10] <yofel> great, tried to upload the autopackagetest fixes
[16:10] <yofel> 35 of 80 uploads were rejected
[16:10] <yofel> our packageset is soo broken
[16:12] <sgclark> to archive?
[16:13] <yofel> yep
[16:13] <yofel> I'll update the seed later
[16:13] <sgclark> ouch. yeah I get rejected on several of those still
[16:14] <yofel> we should probably have a scripted section in our supported seed that we can update in an easy way
[16:14] <yofel> (that that lists binary packages doesn't make things easier...)
[16:14] <sgclark> yeah
[16:23] <allee> santa_, yofel: thx for the patch test tips. I confirmed the fix upstream. I hope the patch makes it into 5.4.3
[16:28] <yofel> and kwin failed to build, dangit
[16:31] <allee> yofel: lucky me, I used apt-get source kwin ;-)
[16:31] <yofel> well, you probably didn't build on xenial ;)
[16:32] <allee> Yessss, sir :-)
[17:01] <mck182__> does anyone know what provides "bzr fast-export"?
[17:24] <clivejo> yofel: do you know what this means?
although that would only lead to the crash if if KDE on kubuntu is being compiled without Q_ASSERT. Otherwise we would hit the Q_ASSERT earlier and get a more clearer backtrace :)
[17:53] <yofel> answered that in #kontact
[17:59] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: happy birthday
[17:59] <yofel> thanks!
[17:59] <ovidiu-florin> Are you partying ?
[17:59] <yofel> not today, over the weekend ;)
[18:00] <ovidiu-florin> have fun
[18:02] <yofel> that's the plan :D
[18:02] <soee_> someone tried Firefox 42 with Mizilla's adblocker ?
[18:03] <Mamarok> yofel: Happy Birthday :)
[18:03] <yofel> thanks!
[18:03] <ovidiu-florin> yofel:
[18:03] <ovidiu-florin> I'm drinking a beer right now in your honor
[18:03] <ovidiu-florin> :D
[18:48] <marco-parillo> soee_: I have not. I simply replace my /etc/hosts with: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt I do feel guilty about the wholesale approach to the sites I like that have small, unobtrusive ads, but they seem to be the minority.
[18:54] <clivejo> thanks yofel
[18:54] <yofel> reminder: kubuntu UOS 16.04 planning in ~10min http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22602/kubuntu-xenial-planning/so
[18:54] <clivejo> should we be using that in Kubuntu?
[18:54] <yofel> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22602/kubuntu-xenial-planning/
[18:55] <clivejo> yofel: can I listen in?
[18:55] <yofel> clivejo: dunno, asserts are usually debug stuff for developers. I'll wait for Dan to answer
[18:55] <yofel> sure, the stream is open, feel free to even join in if you want
[18:55] <yofel> at least in the IRC channel
[18:56] <clivejo> is it all Ubuntu or just for Kubuntu?
[18:56] <yofel> it's just for us
[18:56] <yofel> general planning meeting about what we want to do for 16.04
[18:57] <clivejo> is there video feed?
[18:57] <yofel> there will be one once the hangout starts
[18:58] <clivejo> 2minutes and counting
[18:59] <yofel> ovidiu-florin, sgclark, valorie, Mamarok, ahoneybun, allee: ^
[19:00] <sgclark> I am present
[19:01] <sgclark> between sneezes
[19:02] <clivejo> 19:02 by my watch :P
[19:13] <clivejo> who is ridgewing?
[19:14] * shadeslayer is around listening passively
[19:20] <shadeslayer> sgclark: needs fast ssds
[19:20] <shadeslayer> We run kci on a AWS medium right now
[19:20] <shadeslayer> I thinm
[19:21] <shadeslayer> We have provisioning via chef
[19:21] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^
[19:23] <BluesKaj> need a filter for KB noise on youtube :-)
[19:28] <sgclark> shadeslayer: ok thank you
[19:39] <Mamarok> couldn't heare a word he was saying...
[19:41] <Mamarok> not just quite, almost mute
[19:41] <Mamarok> quiet*
[19:42] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: link to hangout?
[19:42] <Mamarok> ah, now it works :)
[19:43] <Mamarok> ovidiu-florin: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22602/kubuntu-xenial-planning/
[19:43] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent/chaqbkhl79mnqv56rh9la8teicg&ytl=fgMjIXTdzb...
[19:43] <ovidiu-florin> the link to join in
[19:43] <ovidiu-florin> not to watch
[19:43] <Mamarok> you can join from the one I sent
[19:44] <clivejo> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent/chaqbkhl79mnqv56rh9la8teicg&ytl=fgMjIXTdzb...
[19:44] <clivejo> thats the onair link mhall119 sent
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> Mamarok: no I can't
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: that's just a watch link
[19:45] <Mamarok> see below the video, set a nick
[19:45] <ovidiu-florin> that's irc not hangout
[19:45] <clivejo> watch it and there is a wee join in link appears on the video
[19:45] <Mamarok> really?
[19:45] <Mamarok> let me check again...
[19:46] <Mamarok> yeah, here is a link the the lover left of the video framet
[19:49] <ahoneybun> I guess I missed it
[19:49] <clivejo> hi ahoneybun
[19:49] <ahoneybun> hey clivejo
[19:49] <clivejo> try this link - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe8_qHwGDAJy7i0Ns3nPmxiHaCK6Tm5h2Cr6FWb9IjJXSDHEw?h...
[19:51] <clivejo> ahoneybun: can you join #ubuntu-uos-convergence
[19:52] <clivejo> currently talking about docs
[19:52] <ahoneybun> http://docs.kubuntu.org/
[19:52] <ahoneybun> thanks to yofel
[19:53] <Mamarok> I don't see how the moin moin wiki would be an improvement :(
[19:55] <ahoneybun> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/master/source/welcome.rst
[20:08] <allee> clivejo: thx for the hangout link above. I'm no in. Where did you find this URL?
[20:08] <clivejo> there is IRC chat too
[20:08] <clivejo> #ubuntu-uos-convergence
[20:13] <genii> Man, how many uos channels are there? Now I know of -convergence, -showandtell, -core, and -community
[20:15] * clivejo shrugs
[20:17] <allee> genii: these are for the parallel UOS session
[20:17] <genii> Hm
[20:22] <ahoneybun> clivejo: there was a lot of ban on Jon about pushing Plasma 5 as "half baked" and "broken" when it was KDE 4 was getting no more updates so what else could you do
[20:24] <Mamarok> ovidiu-florin: not just you, I don't like it at all
[20:24] <Mamarok> and I have used a fair share of bug trackers
[20:29] <Mamarok> how about waht plasma does currenlty, Bug Days?
[20:29] <clivejo> does plasma not have a built in bug reporting tool?
[20:30] <Mamarok> that's not the point, they use bugzilla, but they do weekly triaging and bug cleaning
[20:30] <Mamarok> so we should just organize a weekls day or half day for bug triaging
[20:31] <Mamarok> I do triaging daily in Amarok since years, but I let slip the Kubuntu bugs because I dislike launchpad's bug tool
[20:31] <clivejo> the problem I find users have is that they dont know where to report bugs to
[20:32] <Mamarok> well, that's rather easy: if it is abpout plasma or a KDE application -> always upstream
[20:32] <Mamarok> if it is Kubuntu specific, or the underlying system (kernel, etc) then to launchpad
[20:32] <clivejo> most users dont bother reporting them any more
[20:32] <clivejo> as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike as one user put it!
[20:33] <Mamarok> most users never bothered to report anyway, some just complain and thinkg the bug is so obvious they don't need to report it, but many bugs are just hitting one specific isntallation
[20:33] <Mamarok> adn if everybody has that attidued for "oh but that is so obvious", nobody ends up reporting it
[20:34] <soee_> https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/66-the-first-vivaldi-beta
[20:36] <clivejo> who is kiera?
[20:36] <clivejo> IRC handle
[20:36] <Mamarok> yeah, who is keira?
[20:39] <Mamarok> ovidiu-florin: who is keira in here? Never heatrd that name before
[20:39] <clivejo> mhall119 clivejo2: he's Ridgewing I think
[20:40] <Mamarok> *sigh* doesn't really help if he is not here...
[20:41] <clivejo> anyone interested in working on the ring-kde client?
[20:42] <clivejo> LOL I think yofel's face said it all!
[20:43] <ahoneybun> where is rick
[20:43] <ahoneybun> in here?
[20:44] <clivejo> I dont think rick is monitoring IRC
[20:44] <clivejo> he was having windowing trouble
[20:44] <clivejo> being onair and in IRC at the same time
[20:45] <clivejo> relocate ahoneybun to europe!
[20:45] <ahoneybun> mm
[20:46] <ahoneybun> I would not mind it, I would just need a job before I get there lol
[20:46] <Mamarok> how about the day before and send report to the ML, so the podcast people can work with it
[20:47] <Mamarok> not really a good time, the early evenig is fitting everyone, there are no USians in Plasma
[20:48] <Mamarok> early evening CET I meant
[20:52] <allee> URL for the follow up hangout?
[20:53] <sgclark> still in same hangout
[20:56] <clivejo> I thought mhall had to leave?
[20:57] <clivejo> yofel: whats the plan for xenial ? are we ready to start devel work on it?
[20:57] <yofel> wait, let me read the channel backlog as I didn't pay attention to this channel
[20:58] <sgclark> me either
[20:58] <ahoneybun> yofel: I've got the card up: https://trello.com/c/SkNy0AJ4/25-package-manual-for-shipment
[20:59] <sgclark> clivejo: well I have a few backports to wrap up, then we have to start debian merges...
[20:59] <sgclark> wondering though if being on debian git might help us here
[21:01] <clivejo> have you started a new hangout, or just moving to IRC?
[21:01] <ahoneybun> https://www.google.com/search?q=kubuntu+artwork&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=931&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI_5vF9JL1yAIVCRkeCh3lJQN_
[21:01] <yofel> clivejo: mhall had to leave, but we're still in the hangout
[21:01] <sgclark> same hangout
[21:01] <yofel> try to join if you want to listen in
[21:01] <clivejo> I cant join it
[21:01] <clivejo> keeps replaying the 1:40 long one you just had
[21:01] <clivejo> must be a new link
[21:02] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Artwork#Mini_book
[21:02] <yofel> meh
[21:03] <ahoneybun> yofel: ?
[21:05] <yofel> ahoneybun: clive wanted to join I think
[21:05] <allee> clivejo: still works for me: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe8_qHwGDAJy7i0Ns3nPmxiHaCK6Tm5h2Cr6FWb9IjJXSDHEw?h
[21:05] <clivejo> that link is asking me to join
[21:05] <yofel> do that
[21:06] <yofel> just mute yourself and turn the video off
[21:06] <clivejo> I dont have the plugin
[21:06] <ovidiu-florin> http://doodle.com/poll/tqyc5m33cnnqrvu3
[21:06] <yofel> aah
[21:08] <ahoneybun> https://plus.google.com/communities/108139456908538054874
[21:11] <clivejo> I give up!
[21:12] <yofel> well, we're wrapping up and scheduling the next kubuntu podcast
[21:12] <yofel> so not much to hear
[21:12] <clivejo> :(
[21:12] <yofel> hey, this was supposed to be an 1h meeting and we went far beyond that :P
[21:13] <yofel> clivejo: back to your question, yes, xenial is open. I'm going to make the trello cards for it over the next days
[21:13] <clivejo> but its nice to see stuff being talked about and plans made
[21:15] <ahoneybun> yofel: the public knows that we were down but not out for sure
[21:15] <yofel> clivejo: are you on https://trello.com/kubuntu ?
[21:15] <ahoneybun> now with that hangout out
[21:15] <yofel> indeed
[21:15] <yofel> ah yes, you are
[21:15] <clivejo> yofel: yes
[21:16] <Ridgewing> Hello everybody ..
[21:17] <clivejo> hi Ridgewing
[21:17] <ahoneybun> hola
[21:17] <yofel> welcome to the crowd ;P
[21:17] <allee> Ridgewing: hi!
[21:17] <sgclark> welcome :)
[21:17] <Ridgewing> Good stuff = happy 2 help !
[21:19] <ahoneybun> :)
[21:24] * clivejo kicks meteor and angularjs
[21:24] <wxl> sgclark: et al. please let me know if it would be helpful for me to round up esp. testers for you
[21:25] <wxl> after that session i'm not quite sure among all the issues kubuntu has which ones are the biggest priority
[21:26] <yofel> QA probably later in the release timeline. Currently I think it's getting our documentation in order and packaging
[21:26] <wxl> yofel: docs a la bzr?
[21:26] <yofel> we can come back to you in a week or two once we know better what we have
[21:27] <wxl> that works for me, yofel. just know i'm happy to help in any way i can.
[21:27] <sgclark> wxl: yeah what yofel said, but yes I will definately get back to you, thanks!!
[21:27] <ahoneybun> yofel: the manual?
[21:27] <soee> sgclark: Plasma 5.4.3 tars this thursday, will you package them ?
[21:27] <wxl> np sgclark
[21:27] <yofel> wxl: docs a la docs.kubuntu.org, our wiki and general docs are a mess, etc
[21:28] <clivejo> wheres the wiki?
[21:28] <yofel> we're getting better, but a lot is covered by lots of dust
[21:28] <ahoneybun> https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu
[21:29] <yofel> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu
[21:29] <ovidiu-florin> https://plus.google.com/u/0/112102796730023795852/posts
[21:29] * ahoneybun thinks it is half decent
[21:30] <wxl> sgclark: yofel: when you get in touch, let me know what you need and who the contacts are and i'll round some bodies up for you
[21:30] <sgclark> :)
[21:31] <yofel> thanks!
[21:31] <sgclark> great meeting all, thank you
[21:31] <wxl> yay kubuntu :)
[21:32] * wxl wants a kubuntu t-shirt with that cute dinosaur thingy!
[21:32] <ahoneybun> nice
[21:32] <ahoneybun> XD
[21:36] <Ridgewing> https://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanVideos
[21:36] <wxl> not stallman videos
[21:50] <Ridgewing> bye all.
[21:51] <clivejo> bye Ridgewing, hope you come back soon!
[21:51] <Ridgewing> No probs .. see you soon.
[22:17] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: I sent you a message with my patreon , please let me know if you got it, thanks
[22:22] <Mamarok> that's not a dinosaur, that's a dragon :)
[22:26] <wxl> Mamarok: forgive me. i'm usually a lubunteer. though we do use kubuntu at work. :)
[22:33] <Mamarok> wxl: no problem, it's Konky, the dragon, it has a bit change appearance since it's early days, go younger and that :)
[22:33] <Mamarok> changed*
[22:37] <Mamarok> born on April 23, 1999, btw, for the release of KDE 2.0
[23:03] <valorie> btw, afaik, touch in Plasma 5 Just Works
[23:04] <valorie> no problems seen in my little travel notebook with touch, at all
[23:08] <valorie> also: happy birthday yofel!
[23:08] <yofel> thanks!
[23:08] <tsimonq2> +1
[23:52] <valorie> what a great planning session I missed
[23:55] <valorie> looking forward to the kubuntu podcast
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[00:01] <fabio> antonio@antonio-VGN-NS235J:~$ glxinfo O programa 'glxinfo' não está instalado no momento. Você pode instalá-lo digitando: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[00:01] <MerliM> fabio, se resolveu parabens
[00:01] <MerliM> :D
[00:01] <MerliM> instala o mesa
[00:01] <MerliM> é bom ter
[00:03] <limaD> pessoal preciso de ajuda
[00:03] <astroo-> poe sempre a duvida
[00:04] <limaD> eu att o ubuntu para o 15.10 e agora nem a barra q fica do lado direito e a de cima nao aparecem mais, ja tentei de todas as formas. estou tendo que usar o terminal pra abrir as coisas e alem disso quando vou colocar meu pendrive pra colocar a iso da um erro louco
[00:05] <limaD> lembro-me que esse erro dava al boot error algo do tipo
[00:06] <MerliM> tentou remover o nautilus e reinstalar ou o nemo nao sei qual o padrao
[00:06] <MerliM> todo dia é um diferente ahuaauhuah
[00:06] <limaD> kkkkk bem sou bem iniciante no linux pode me dizer como removo e reinstalo o nautilus
[00:07] <MerliM> limaD, tentou unity --reset
[00:07] <MerliM> vê se pega
[00:07] <limaD> ok
[00:07] <MerliM> pela linha de comando
[00:07] <MerliM> da um dpkg -l | grep nemo
[00:07] <limaD> ERROR: the reset option is now deprecated deu isso
[00:07] <MerliM> se não retornar nada troca por nautilus
[00:07] <MerliM> minuto
[00:08] <MerliM> setid unity
[00:08] <MerliM> limaD, perdao
[00:08] <MerliM> setsid unity
[00:08] <fabio> nuno nunes o mesa eu instalei, mais esse comando : sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-utopic
[00:09] <limaD> deu umas piscadas doidas
[00:09] <fabio> deu sica
[00:09] <fabio> antonio@antonio-VGN-NS235J:~$ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-utopic Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto Construindo árvore de dependências Lendo informação de estado... Pronto E: Impossível encontrar o pacote xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-utopic
[00:09] <Mangusto> Zica
[00:10] <fabio> desculpe zica
[00:10] <limaD> o que eu faco?
[00:11] <limaD> ah uma coisa que eu achei estranho e que quando tento dar restart ou pelo unetbootin ou pelo terminal o processo morre
[00:11] <limaD> `-`
[00:11] <fabio> o higan ainda nao funciona
[00:12] <MerliM> fabio, tu nao disse q tinha resolvido o bug rapa kkkk
[00:12] <MerliM> qual o galho now
[00:12] <fabio> sao dois.
[00:12] <fabio> resolvel a tremedeira no video.
[00:12] <MerliM> limaD, calma ai
[00:13] <fabio> falta conseguir rodar o higan.
[00:13] <backtin> Olá, comunidade!!
[00:13] <astroo-> ola
[00:13] <MerliM> fabio, a tremedeira no video provavelmente seja resolucao verifica no higan como ajustar a resolucao
[00:13] <backtin> Boa Noite!
[00:13] <MerliM> ha resolveu a tremedeira
[00:13] <MerliM> blza entao qualo erro do higan o que ele retorna
[00:13] <MerliM> roda ele pelo console abre o console e chama ele
[00:13] <MerliM> higan
[00:13] <fabio> nao, me desculpe! vou explicar:
[00:14] <backtin> Qual comando eu uso no terminal para atualizar os pacotes?
[00:14] <backtin> Já tentei o sudo apt-get updade e não da certo.
[00:15] <fabio> a tremedeira nao e no higan era no video no sistema operacional quando eu movia o touch pad,
[00:15] <backtin> Aparece a seguinte mensagem: "0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos e 5 não atualizados."
[00:15] <fabio> mesmo com higan fechado.
[00:16] <fabio> Error: OpenGL 3.2 is not available. Select another video driver on the Advanced Configuration tab and restart higan.
[00:17] <limaD> conseguiu ver merlim
[00:17] <limaD> vc e magico, vc consegue kkkk
[00:17] <MerliM> to vendoaqui calma
[00:17] <MerliM> backtin, apt-get update
[00:18] <MerliM> nao updade
[00:18] <MerliM> com TE
[00:18] <backtin> sei
[00:18] <fabio> ok merlin, quando puder ajudar estou aqui aguardando.
[00:18] <backtin> mas também não da certo
[00:18] <MerliM> ele ta dando a solucao
[00:19] <MerliM> selecione outro driver em configuracoes avançadas do higan e reinicie a aplicacao
[00:19] <MerliM> veja quais os drivers listados e testa
[00:19] <backtin> não tem como reconstruir a lsita de repositorios novamente?
[00:19] <MerliM> backtin, qual tua versao
[00:20] <backtin> Lubuntu 14.04
[00:20] <MerliM> hggdh, <backtin> não tem como reconstruir a lsita de repositorios novamente?
[00:20] <MerliM> saca isso
[00:21] <MerliM> limaD, voce que é a duvida sobre as barras do unity né
[00:21] <MerliM> ???
[00:21] <hggdh> MerliM: se estás a falar das listas salvas em /var/lib/apt/lists, sim
[00:21] <limaD> sim pq aqui ta tudo cagado, com o perdao da expressao
[00:21] <MerliM> limaD, segue isso tem a opção para o versao
[00:21] <MerliM> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[00:21] <MerliM> te liga
[00:21] <hggdh> MerliM: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[00:21] <limaD> tipo nao vejo a barra que fica em cima e a barra da direita
[00:21] <MerliM> sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[00:22] <MerliM> unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity
[00:22] <MerliM> tenta isso
[00:22] <MerliM> hggdh, obrigadoo
[00:22] <fabio> merlin , mudei de opengl par xserver e o higan agora fecha .
[00:22] <MerliM> backtin, sua resposta ai dada pelo hggdh ---> tnks
[00:22] <MerliM> quais o que ele lista
[00:22] <MerliM> só essas duas
[00:22] <MerliM> fabio, ???
[00:23] <MerliM> backtin, faz isso que o hggdh disse ai
[00:23] <hggdh> backtin: só tenha cuidado -- rm -rf, se errado (mais ainda com sudo) pode fazer um belo estrago
[00:23] <limaD> ta att
[00:24] <fabio> pois e, fui la em configuracao / avancado/
[00:24] <fabio> no higan
[00:25] <MerliM> limaD, a string das buscas
[00:25] <MerliM> https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=ubuntu+unity+--reset+decrapted
[00:25] <limaD> a barra apareceu
[00:25] <limaD> depois desapareceu
[00:25] <limaD> `-`
[00:25] <fabio> e alterei de opengl par xsever.
[00:25] <MerliM> fabio, so lista opengl e xserver???
[00:25] <backtin> ainda não deu certo =//
[00:25] <fabio> o higan nao
[00:25] <limaD> se eu resetar volta ao normal, sera
[00:25] <MerliM> limaD, fez o logout e depois o login novamente
[00:25] <limaD> ok
[00:25] <backtin> Aparecem 5 programas nao atualuzadis
[00:25] <limaD> ja volto
[00:26] <MerliM> reset o que ???
[00:26] <fabio> so nao abre mais.
[00:26] <backtin> sudo apt-get install -f Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto Construindo árvore de dependências Lendo informação de estado... Pronto 0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos e 5 não atualizados.
[00:26] <MerliM> calma padawan kkk
[00:26] <MerliM> fabio, entra pelo console e digita higan --help
[00:26] <MerliM> e cola pra mim a saida
[00:26] <MerliM> se for grande bota no pastebin
[00:27] <MerliM> esse -f nao é antes de install ou tanto faz
[00:27] <MerliM> eu nao lembro
[00:27] <MerliM> sempre usei anres
[00:27] <MerliM> antes*
[00:29] <fabio> higan --help VideoXv: unable to find a supported image format. Falha de segmentação (imagem do núcleo gravada)
[00:33] <MerliM> chama ele sem argumento algum
[00:33] <MerliM> tipo higan
[00:33] <MerliM> somente
[00:33] <MerliM> pelo console
[00:33] <MerliM> fabio, eai???
[00:43] <nuno_nunes> de volta
[00:43] <nuno_nunes> uma queda de rede
[00:43] <nuno_nunes> :D
[00:45] <MerliM> caiu denovo kkkkkkkkkkkk
[00:49] <fabio> nao deu em nada.
[00:49] <fabio> esta domesmo jeito.
[00:50] <fabio> abre e fecha
[00:51] <fabio> deu pau!
[00:52] <MerliM> sim mais nao retorna nada no console mano
[00:52] <MerliM> mas*
[03:59] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[10:46] <filipe95> eae BLZ
[10:48] <filipe95> Meu Canal=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCykEQr3-BFe2LNkHnCrNTPg
[11:14] <denisalvesbh> vou fragar!
[11:47] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[11:50] <Geese_Howard> dia
[11:50] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[12:20] <MerliM> Boa dia
[12:21] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[12:23] <MerliM> mirqui, tudo sim hoje o dia ta miorr
[12:23] <MerliM> e tu
[12:24] <mirqui> que bom, aqui vamos todos bem graças a deus :)
[12:24] <mirqui> e ai , quais são as novas?
[12:27] <JB0717> bom dia
[12:27] <mirqui> blza :)
[12:27] <JB0717> como faco para fazer um remoto do ubuntu para o windows?
[12:29] <mirqui> usa o team viewer
[12:29] <mirqui> funciona muito bem
[12:30] <JB0717> lá é servidor nao tem algo que eu possa usar o Remote Desktop do proprio WIndows?
[12:31] <mirqui> opa , ai não sei , sou usuário novo
[12:31] <mirqui> sei fazer o feijão com arroz somente
[12:32] <JB0717> pdc to aqui na labuta pra sair do windows aqui nos pc da loja kkkkkk, dor de cabeca de mais
[12:32] <mirqui> tenta um usuário mais avançado
[12:32] <mirqui> merlim por exemplo
[12:32] <mirqui> elfon
[12:32] <mirqui> hggdh
[12:33] <mirqui> não sei se o samba é para isso
[12:33] <mirqui> mas tenta um desses caras
[12:35] <MerliM> oi
[12:35] <MerliM> malz
[12:36] <MerliM> tu quer do teu ubuntu acessar tua estacao windows
[12:36] <MerliM> mao unica certo???
[12:36] <MerliM> Habilita o RDS do windows remote desktop service ele responde na porta 3389
[12:36] <MerliM> do ubuntu instala o rdesktop
[12:36] <MerliM> tem cliente grafico pra ele no ubuntu provavelmente tem eu uso pelo console mesmo
[12:37] <MerliM> mais tem um cliente grafico usava quando usava Gnome-shell
[12:37] <MerliM> pronto so apontar IP da maquina setar as configuracoes e pronto
[12:38] <MerliM> se for na mesma rede local é de boa se for via WEB tem q redirecionar uma porta para o IP:Porta do windows que quer acessar no roteador ou firewall que tiver usando
[12:38] <MerliM> o teamviewer é bom pq já faz isso pra vc transparente
[12:38] <MerliM> porem rola de boa
[12:40] <rafael> JB0717: isso depende do que vc pretende fazer.
[12:40] <rafael> Mas para acesso a interface gráfica vc pode usar os protocolos RDP e VNC
[12:41] <rafael> Para RDP você pode usar o rdesktop como o MerliM disse
[12:41] <rafael> Tem também o Remmina
[12:43] <MerliM> rafael, remmina justamente esse que usava tinha esquecido kkk
[12:43] <MerliM> ele é so o frontend :D
[12:43] <MerliM> rafael, tnks
[12:46] <vlm42> nessa linha tem o Guacamole, que provê acesso sem a necessidade de um cliente nativo (vc usa o browser). Ele suporta vnc e rdp.
[12:46] <vlm42> mas a configuração/instalação é mais complicada.
[12:49] <JB0717> blz obg galera
[12:50] <mirqui> boa sorte :)
[12:55] <Hallan> Bom dia, preciso de uma ajuda com arquivos de bios para subir intalação no meu not
[13:00] <elisboa> Bom dia a todos.
[13:01] <mirqui> blza :)
[13:01] <mirqui> hallam , que tem sua bios
[13:01] <mirqui> ?
[13:01] <mirqui> é uefi?
[13:02] <Hallan> entao é um notebook samsung e veio com a bios bloqueada, quero usar duas plataformas nele windows e linux
[13:03] <Hallan> ele tem uefi la aparecendo mas trava a instalação
[13:03] <mirqui> http://www.hardware.com.br/comunidade/uefi-desativar/1330952/
[13:03] <mirqui> tenta este site
[13:04] <Hallan> mirqui: ok, vou tentar mais a noite, nao estou com ele aqui em mãos, qualquer coisa te dou um retorno se consegui, obrigado pela ajuda
[13:05] <mirqui> boa sorte :)
[13:06] <Hallan> mirqui: agora vi com o rapaz que meu auxiliou ele falou que nao vai dar certo pq nao roda o lagacy
[13:07] <mirqui> xii cara , sou novo no linux ,
[13:07] <MerliM> oi
[13:07] <mirqui> o win que tenho era 7 e não tinha essa coisa de3 uefi
[13:08] <Hallan> compreendo
[13:08] <Hallan> vou continar a tentar
[13:08] <mirqui> merlim um help para o cara :)
[13:08] <mirqui> sabe como fazer?
[13:08] <MerliM> Hallan, como assim vc quer usar linux e windows é isso
[13:08] <MerliM> ?
[13:09] <MerliM> qual distro queres usar ubuntu?
[13:09] <otavio> bom dia
[13:09] <otavio> o ubuntu tem suporte a toque na tela
[13:09] <otavio> tenho um dell e quero instalar o s.o
[13:10] <mirqui> sim olavo , já ví um post com o ubuntu touch
[13:10] <Hallan> MerliM: quero ter os dois OS
[13:11] <otavio> no meu not não tem como instalar os 2, pois o win roda com ufmi
[13:11] <otavio> e o linux em legacy
[13:11] <otavio> alquem sabe como instalar lado a lado nesse caso?
[13:14] <mirqui> olavo olha isto
[13:14] <mirqui> http://www.diolinux.com.br/2015/06/veja-o-ubuntu-rodando-em-um-asus-touch.html
[13:14] <MerliM> Hallan, tem como sim
[13:14] <MerliM> mano
[13:14] <MerliM> modelo do not
[13:15] <otavio> valeu vou olhar
[13:15] <mirqui> olavo , em último caso roda numa máquina virtual
[13:15] <otavio> não vejo a hora de ter o linux em meu pc
[13:16] <mirqui> tanto para linux como para windows existe máquina virtual
[13:16] <otavio> meu note é dell inspirion 13 serie 7000
[13:17] <otavio> vou fezer um teste na maquina virtual
[13:18] <otavio> obrigado
[13:18] <Hallan> MerliM: ja tive em outros pcs instalado dois OS, modelo do not: NP370E4K KD2BR
[13:19] <Hallan> mas nesse not nao consegui por que a samsung nao me libera arquivos para bios
[13:22] <MerliM> vixi nao precisava do serial number ahuauhauhauha
[13:22] <MerliM> consegue da boot usando live cd
[13:23] <MerliM> se consegue entao da
[13:23] <mirqui> ou usa a máquina virtual
[13:24] <mirqui> para ter o sistema sempre no pc sem precisar instaar nenhum cd ou pendrive
[13:25] * Hallan slaps MerliM around a bit with a large fishbot
[13:25] <Hallan> ops
[13:25] <MerliM> kkkkkk
[13:25] <MerliM> :/
[13:25] <Hallan> esse modelo que passei é numero de serie?
[13:26] <Hallan> aqui nao abre pvt né?
[13:26] <mirqui> baa velho vc é um bot?
[13:26] <Hallan> eu cliquei as coisas aqui sem querer
[13:27] <mirqui> ahaha fishbot é ruim
[13:28] <MerliM> Hallan, to brincando
[13:29] <Hallan> é que eu peguei essa descrição na nfe
[13:32] <MerliM> Hallan, deve ter um numero mais facil em uma etiqueta nele
[13:34] <Hallan> numero de serie dele? não estou com ele em mãos
[13:36] <MerliM> nao quero numero de série mano
[13:36] <MerliM> pera ai
[13:39] <Hallan> ok
[14:02] <MerliM> Hallan, é um samsung ativ book 3 né
[14:03] <Hallan> esse mesmo, isso ai
[14:13] <MerliM> Hallan, o post fala a experiencia de um user e seu ativ book em dual boot
[14:13] <MerliM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2176559
[14:16] <MerliM> tem esse outro é pra win8 + tuntun 12.10
[14:17] <MerliM> porem deve ser a mesma analogia pro seu
[14:17] <MerliM> http://linuxbsdos.com/2013/03/12/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu-12-04-in-uefi-mode/
[14:34] <Hallan> blz vou olhar hoje a noite com o not em mãos, aviso caso falha ou sucesso da instalação
[14:53] <shallwe> aee galera gente boa
[14:54] <shallwe> virtualbox recebeu uma atualização que funciona 100% com o novo kernel 4.2 :) agora sim, só falta o drive proprietário da Ati, ai fechou 100%
[14:59] <Geese_Howard> "só"
[14:59] <elisboa> só foi boa, hehe
[15:01] <shallwe> Geese_Howard, kkkk pra mim pelo menos é só, agora vai do que cada um usa né :)
[15:02] <shallwe> mas sério, não entendi porque usaram um kernel tão novo
[15:02] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: considerando que sem o devido suporte ao dispositivo gráfico a experiência visual é péssima, não acredito que seja "só"
[15:02] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: mas, vai de cada um mesmo
[15:02] <MerliM> Vixiii
[15:04] <shallwe> Geese_Howard, pois é, pra mim pelo menos dos meus apps é o virtualbox que tinha parado e o drive da ati, virtualbox voltou, agora só falta o drive proprietário
[15:04] <shallwe> mas aí tb é culpa da ati de não dar suporte melhor
[15:04] <shallwe> não li ainda pq quebrou qual o motivo
[15:06] <shallwe> estou usando o ubuntu 15.10 com gnome3 sem o unity, mas aquela maledeta da "global menu" faz uma diferença
[15:06] <shallwe> é meio estranho ter uma barra de títulos pra nada só pra mostrar o nome do aplicativo
[15:06] <shallwe> como se eu não soubesse o que estou usando no momento o.O
[15:15] <guihefestos> olá podem me ajudar a instalar o ubunto em um note antigo com windows 7><:
[15:15] <guihefestos> +~-*
[15:16] <shallwe> guihefestos, olá
[15:16] <shallwe> o que precisas saber?
[15:16] <wesleystos> Olá
[15:16] <wesleystos> como faço para instalar
[15:16] <shallwe> wesleystos, olá
[15:17] <wopgan_> boa tarde
[15:17] <shallwe> via pendrive, é bem fácil
[15:17] <shallwe> ubuntu.com só baixar a iso lá :)
[15:17] <shallwe> na hora de baixar tem o link bem embaixo da página, falando como gravar a iso baixada em um pendrive usando o windows
[15:18] <shallwe> wopgan_, olá
[15:18] <shallwe> dependendo do hardware recomendamos o 14.04
[15:19] <guihefestos> esperando baixar.. aversao de 64 bits aqui..
[15:19] <guihefestos> qual a configuração minima que o note tem que ter
[15:20] <guihefestos> ?
[15:20] <wopgan_> iae shallwe
[15:20] <shallwe> guihefestos, qual a config do seu note?
[15:20] <shallwe> wopgan_, :)
[15:20] <shallwe> vou até facilitar a vida de vcs :) http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[15:20] <shallwe> ta aí como gravar a iso no pendrive
[15:20] <wesleystos> eok
[15:21] <wesleystos> vou ler agora
[15:21] <shallwe> mesmo não sabendo inglês é só seguir as imagens kkk
[15:21] <wesleystos> Grato perla atenção oferecida
[15:21] <shallwe> wesleystos, mas qual a configuração do seu note?
[15:21] <shallwe> processador e memória?
[15:22] <shallwe> disponha sempre que pudermos ajudar estamos aí
[15:22] <wesleystos> é um AMD e-300 com dois gb de memoria
[15:22] <wesleystos> da samsumg
[15:22] <guihefestos> o meu é um core 2 duo 1,5gb de ram
[15:22] <guihefestos> nao me julguem
[15:23] <guihefestos> kkk
[15:23] <guihefestos> quero botar o ubunto pra aproveitar o note
[15:23] <wesleystos> procuro mesmo estabilidade e sair dos virus
[15:23] <shallwe> guihefestos, o seu ta bom eu tinha um desses é guerreiro
[15:23] <guihefestos> afinal windows nao da
[15:23] <shallwe> wesleystos, eu recomendaria o 14.04 32bit
[15:23] <guihefestos> mas quero usar pra colocar a ide do java
[15:23] <guihefestos> pra programar
[15:23] <shallwe> alias acho que até o 64bit vai
[15:24] <guihefestos> eclipese
[15:24] <shallwe> guihefestos, a sim linux é bom pra isso
[15:24] <wesleystos> vou baixar o 64 então
[15:24] <shallwe> os apps pra programação funcionam melhor e muito mais rápido no linux
[15:25] <shallwe> wesleystos, é tanto faz, o seu processador suporta 64bit
[15:25] <edenc> Com 1,5GB de RAM eu recomendo 32bits
[15:26] <shallwe> edenc, depende, eu tenho 64bit no meu note com 1.6gb de ram e roda filé
[15:26] <shallwe> mesmo coisa que o 32
[15:26] <edenc> O que significa "roda filé"?
[15:26] <shallwe> não tem pq vc ter um processador 64bit rodando 32 :)
[15:26] <shallwe> edenc, kkkk
[15:26] <shallwe> roda bem, roda sem travar nem nada
[15:27] <shallwe> não notei perda de uso da memória ou aumento, mas aí tem aquilo também depende dos apps etc, vai de cada um
[15:27] <edenc> Com 64bits a assinatura de memória dos processos vão ser maiores
[15:27] <edenc> Além de que há várias questões de retrocompatibilidade, ainda
[15:28] <shallwe> edenc, a isso sim, retrocompatibilidade de alguns apps, mas devem ser poucos
[15:28] <edenc> pois, se eu tivesse que escolher, usaria 32bits
[15:28] <edenc> quanto mais problema puder elimintar, melhor :P
[15:30] <shallwe> edenc, é eu tb :) eu só uso 64bit no meu note com processador fraco mesmo pra testar e ajudar no que der
[15:30] <shallwe> já no pc tenho 8gb ram ai 64 sem dúvida
[15:30] <shallwe> acho que nem vai existir a era dos 128bit kkk
[15:30] <shallwe> com certeza os processadores de transistores e silício irão acabar antes disso
[15:31] <shallwe> gente o edenc vai ajudar vcs, vou ali ver a patroa :)
[15:31] <edenc> shallwe: colocar mais bits num processador é trivial
[15:32] <edenc> shallwe: o que não é trivial é garantir retrocompatibilidade
[15:33] <edenc> E um processador com mais bits não significa necessariamente mais poder de processamento
[15:34] <elisboa> shallwe: se ele tiver pouca ram, pode ser melhor usar 32-bit mesmo
[15:44] <shallwe> voltei, bom se vocês recomendam
[15:44] <shallwe> mas se for um processador mais moderno ai sim 64bit, se bem que processadores mais modernos já vem com no mínimo 4gb ram
[16:43] <shallwe> gente vcs conhecem o KVM? Vi que ele tem algumas vantagens encima do virtualbox, mas é meio limitado quanto a integração com outros meios , só aceita USB
[16:43] <eloi_carneiro> alguém já instalou os drivers da nvidia 740m no ubuntu 15.10? estou tendo problemas aqui
[16:44] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, na verdade a integração dele com o hardware é muito boa
[16:44] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, mas na questão usabilidade ele fica um pouco atrás do virtualbox para o uso direto no desktop
[16:45] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, foi o que li, ele se integra melhor
[16:45] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, para servidor é show de bola, o que vc esta tentando fazer?
[16:45] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, pois é, bom como uso pra rodar windows e um app, ta bom o virtualbox :) era mais só por dúvida mesmo
[16:45] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, vc esta usando o virt-manager?
[16:46] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, vixi drive proprietário tb com problemas da nvidia?
[16:46] <eloi_carneiro> para gerenciar?
[16:46] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, sim
[16:46] <eloi_carneiro> instalei o 15.10
[16:46] <eloi_carneiro> tá tudo lindo, redondo
[16:46] <shallwe> gerenciar? uso virtualbox ele faz tudo
[16:46] <eloi_carneiro> só o driver da nvidia que esta dando dor de cabeça
[16:46] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, estou falando do kvm
[16:47] <shallwe> deve ser esse kernel doido 4.2 que colocaram, ta dando dor de cabeça em muita gente kkk
[16:47] <shallwe> a ta, não uso KVM uso virtual box :)
[16:47] <eloi_carneiro> é nada
[16:47] <eloi_carneiro> eu estava usando o 14.04
[16:47] <eloi_carneiro> e estava com problema na hora de suspender
[16:47] <eloi_carneiro> não sei como o note não pegou fogo na mochila
[16:47] <eloi_carneiro> rsrs
[16:48] <eloi_carneiro> um dia estava andando
[16:48] <eloi_carneiro> e a mochila estava quente
[16:48] <eloi_carneiro> fui ver o note esta fervendo
[16:48] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, pra falar a verdade eu estou usando o ubuntu com gnome 3, e não consigo trocar de usuário, mas deve ser algum bug no gnome nada a ver com o ubuntu
[16:48] <eloi_carneiro> reparei que o 15.10 esta com o sustemd
[16:48] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, note guerreiro kkk, mas se for muito quente deveria ter se desligado sozinho
[16:48] <eloi_carneiro> *systemd
[16:48] <eloi_carneiro> é um dell 5470
[16:49] <eloi_carneiro> i7
[16:49] <shallwe> uma vez lembro que explodi um k7 kkk lembra dos atlhons?
[16:49] <eloi_carneiro> agora com o ubuntu 15.10 kernel 4.2
[16:49] <shallwe> core totalmente exposto kkkk
[16:49] <eloi_carneiro> estou conseguindo suspender direitinho
[16:49] <shallwe> a ta i7 é bom, esquenta pouco
[16:49] <eloi_carneiro> sim
[16:49] <shallwe> que geração?
[16:49] <eloi_carneiro> 4ª
[16:49] <shallwe> ta ótimo
[16:50] <eloi_carneiro> a maquina é boa
[16:50] <shallwe> os da 5 agora nem cooler mais usam em alguns notes
[16:50] <eloi_carneiro> só a nvidia que esta dando dor de cabeça
[16:50] <eloi_carneiro> testei os 4 drivers proprietários que o ubuntu indica
[16:50] <eloi_carneiro> e nenhum deles foi
[16:50] <shallwe> pois é, a minha radeon ati nao rola drive proprietário com o kernel 4.2
[16:51] <eloi_carneiro> é nada
[16:51] <shallwe> estou usando o open mesmo, como não jogo ta bom
[16:51] <shallwe> então estas usando o open mesmo
[16:51] <eloi_carneiro> pelo visto vou deixar apenas com o open, até sair alguma novidade
[16:52] <shallwe> é, logo deve sair
[16:53] <shallwe> quero comprar um note com intel tb, mas vou esperar a última geração agora que vai sair com 7nm ou 8nm algo assim
[16:53] <shallwe> adeus cooler :)
[17:05] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, estou contente com 4ª geração, e vamos ver como essas novas gerações se comportam
[17:06] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, o novo macbook air, veio com um processador sem cooler também
[17:06] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, exatamente o que pensei, o novo mac não tem cooler
[17:06] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, só se a intel e a apple fizeram algum milagre, acho que o desempenho vai ser comprometido e muito
[17:07] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, bom mas esses sem cooler são de clock baixo tb
[17:07] <eloi_carneiro> parece que a cada dia o pessoal esta oferecendo menos poder de processamento e cobrando mais
[17:07] <eloi_carneiro> tem os processadores arm também
[17:08] <eloi_carneiro> é esses que estou curioso pra ver em ação
[17:08] <shallwe> verdade, eu ainda tenho um phenom x4 de 4.1ghz, mas realmente não vejo o pq usar tanto processamento assim pro meu uso
[17:08] <shallwe> só tenho ele pq é 4 cores
[17:08] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, verdade, pelo que parece e vejo a tendência é tudo virar arm kkk
[17:11] <shallwe> alias, já tem ubuntu arm, eu me pergunto, posso instalar isso em qualquer tablet? kkk
[17:11] <shallwe> pq na realidade se eu tenho um tablet com android, teoricamente eu poderia instalar uma distro de linux em arm não?
[17:19] <Ferrhcp> Boa Tarde
[17:20] <Ferrhcp> estou entrando pela primeira vez, tenho conhecimento legal ja do so, gostaria de saber como funciona e se posso ajudar em algo?
[17:21] <shallwe> Ferrhcp, boa tarde :)
[17:22] <shallwe> ajudamos como podemos, sempre que surge alguém com dúvidas tentamos ajudar, as vezes não sei ou não acho nada, ai outros respontem e assim vai :)
[17:22] <Ferrhcp> blz então me mantenho aqui
[17:22] <shallwe> valeu, quanto mais ajuda melhor :) pessoal é gente boa aqui
[17:23] <shallwe> só o chefe que as vezes é meio cabeça quente, mas é gente boa :)
[17:24] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, toma cuidado, se ele ver o que estamos escrevendo vamos sofrer rsrsrs
[17:24] <shallwe> é verdade, mas eu nem citei o nome dele, kkk deixa assim
[17:25] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, rsrs
[17:25] <Ferrhcp> hahaha, tudo bem
[17:25] <Ferrhcp> eu vim do debian, to me sentindo um desbravador aqui na empresa faz um ano que abri mão do windows
[17:26] <Ferrhcp> e hj conquistei mais um que esta terminando o dualboot passará a usar o ubuntu
[17:26] <eloi_carneiro> Ferrhcp, é só não falar palavrão aqui no canal que fica tudo bem
[17:26] <Ferrhcp> não, não tenho costume de falar palavrão, rs fiquem tranquilos
[17:26] <shallwe> Ferrhcp, então vc usava debian 7 ou 8?
[17:26] <eloi_carneiro> Ferrhcp, bacana
[17:26] <Ferrhcp> minha ideia, é fazer a empresa inteira trabalhar com o ubuntu,
[17:26] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, ele veio do debian agora esta com o ubuntu
[17:27] <Ferrhcp> e aproveitando parabéns à vocês todos, vim do debian
[17:27] <eloi_carneiro> Ferrhcp, e qual o sistema de gestão que vcs usam?
[17:27] <Ferrhcp> estou espantado com o nível de intuitividade que vocês alcançaram
[17:27] <eloi_carneiro> é multi plataforma?
[17:28] <shallwe> vocês não nós kkk, vocês parece que sempre tem alguém excluído
[17:28] <eloi_carneiro> o que eu tenho aqui até roda em certo ponto no wine, mas tem algumas operações que trava, dai eu tenho um windows em cativeiro (virtualizado) pra rodar o ERP :D
[17:29] <eloi_carneiro> Ferrhcp, como vc esta fazendo ai?
[17:29] <Ferrhcp> pera ai
[17:29] <shallwe> e eu ainda dependo de alguns software do windows, mas só no virtualbox mesmo, não tem como usar wine
[17:30] <Ferrhcp> Bom vamos lá
[17:30] <Ferrhcp> em um ano, no debian fui apanhando daqui dalí e fui abrindo mão de VM
[17:30] <Ferrhcp> hj muito raramente preciso do windows aqui
[17:31] <Ferrhcp> e isso foi chamando a atenção de outros analistas aqui, que passam e veem minha tela, terminal transluciodo "rsrsrs, que fazendo do caras babarem" começaram a se interesar
[17:31] <Ferrhcp> mas eu não indicava porque o debian, é bom mas pra quem fuça
[17:31] <Ferrhcp> quando instalei o ubuntu, rs
[17:31] <Ferrhcp> deu vontade de chorar bicho, ele faz tudo pra vc
[17:32] <Ferrhcp> esta incrivel!
[17:32] <Ferrhcp> ai o pessoal veio na mesa
[17:32] <Ferrhcp> e um, subuiu na vm na quarta
[17:32] <Ferrhcp> hoje ja ta dando dualboot
[17:32] <Ferrhcp> porque realmente, o ubuntu hoje é um sistema incrivelmente fantastico
[17:33] <Ferrhcp> deixou o papai debian pra tras
[17:33] <eloi_carneiro> qual a atividade da empresa que vc trabalha?
[17:33] <Ferrhcp> Meio que governo
[17:33] <eloi_carneiro> bacana
[17:33] <Ferrhcp> trabalhamos com algumas informações do governo mais nada de muito importante
[17:34] <shallwe> Ferrhcp, legal, realmente ubuntu já vem tudo pronto, sem contar que você pode instalar vários programas da central sem medo de spys e virus
[17:34] <eloi_carneiro> informações? vcs fazem BI
[17:34] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[17:34] <shallwe> no windows vc instala algo do superdownloads ou de qualquer site e o instalador já vem cheio de porcaria kkk
[17:34] <eloi_carneiro> tem o pentaho já ouviu falar?
[17:35] <Ferrhcp> exatamente
[17:36] <Ferrhcp> no caso da empresa, nas maquinas ruindows não tava dando tanto pau pq limitamos os user
[17:36] <Ferrhcp> mas na minha casa, rs
[17:36] <Ferrhcp> certo dia cheguei em ksa e minha mãe disse, é filho santo de casa não faz milagre
[17:36] <Ferrhcp> eu mesma instalei um antivirus aqui,
[17:36] <Ferrhcp> quando olhei o Baidu lá
[17:37] <Ferrhcp> Não fazemos BI, por hora
[17:37] <Ferrhcp> mas estou na cabeça de um projeto, logo precisarei analisar uma pancada de dados eloi_carneiro
[17:38] <elisboa> Ferrhcp: meio que governo?
[17:38] <elisboa> É uma autarquia?
[17:39] <shallwe> elisboa, kkkk tenha calma
[17:44] <Ferrhcp> hahaah, mas que interesse é esse pessoal?
[17:44] <Ferrhcp> rsrs
[17:55] <Ferrhcp> Uma dúvida, da para dar boot usando o grub em 2 hds, um com o windows e o outro ubuntu?
[17:56] <shallwe> Ferrhcp, claro eu tenho assim
[17:57] <shallwe> alias eu tenho 2 hds, 1 dele é windows pra patroa jogar league of legends :) e o outro hd tem uma partição pra guardar as coisas e a outra partição linux
[17:57] <shallwe> mas claro, tem limite de partições por hd, não lembro quantas são
[18:03] <Ferrhcp> entendi, o cara consegiu aqui
[18:03] <Ferrhcp> valeu mais um na conta, trouxemos pro lado de cá
[18:03] <shallwe> tranquilo
[18:05] <Ferrhcp> vlw
[18:07] <hugutux_> Galera.. boa tarde!
[18:07] <hugutux_> alguém indica outro programa para recuperação no linux que não seja o photorec?
[18:08] <shallwe> boa tarde hugutux_ , algum motivo em especial pra não usar ele?
[18:09] <hugutux_> não recuperou tudo o que havia perdido!
[18:09] <hugutux_> por acaso, se quanto mais programas rodarem no disco, mesmo que somente leitura.. menos serão as chances de recuperar?
[18:09] <shallwe> tem o magicrescue
[18:10] <hugutux_> shallwe, no linux mesmo?
[18:10] <hugutux_> vou procurar!!
[18:10] <shallwe> sim
[18:10] <shallwe> photorec ubuntu alternative
[18:10] <shallwe> tem vários no google
[18:12] <elisboa> ou é governo ou não é
[18:12] <elisboa> não tem essa de "meio"
[18:12] <elisboa> uai
[18:13] <hugutux_> shallwe, vou testar esse cara mais tarde!
[18:13] <hugutux_> Obrigado pela dica!
[18:14] <shallwe> hugutux_, :)
[18:32] <Ferrhcp> pessoal, algum softphone bacana p usar com o asterisk
[18:32] <Ferrhcp> to com o jitsi mas vive dando pau
[18:32] <edenc> hugutux_: a chance de recuperar arquivos vai diminuindo com as escritas, se for somente leitura a chance de recuperar é grande
[18:33] <hugutux_> edenc, deram um /clean no disco, e depois disso o cara passou um software pago na versão trial, e ela não recuperou nada!
[18:33] <hugutux_> edenc, shallwe, depois disso, passei o photorec e ele não recuperou muita coisa!
[18:34] <shallwe> hugutux_, como ele fez pra perder, formatou o disco?
[18:35] <hugutux_> shallwe, sim.. fez o/clean dentro do diskpart no windows1
[18:36] <hugutux_> depois ainda mandou criar a partição.. ai deu um erro falando que o disco era muito grande.. ai o zé achou estranho e foi ver a caca que tinha feito
[18:36] <shallwe> hugutux_, pois é, até tem como recuperar, mas não pode ficar fazendo coisas nele, instalando etc usando como gravação
[18:36] <shallwe> putz
[18:36] <shallwe> ele fez a pior coisa, criar partição kkk
[18:37] <hugutux_> shallwe, não não.. desde de então somente softwares para recuperação.. como eu disse, acho que eles atuam em somente leitura.
[18:37] <hugutux_> EU ESPERO! uashauhsuahs
[18:38] <shallwe> sim, se for um software bom sim, os outros não sei kkk
[18:38] <shallwe> e oq tinha antes no hd era ntfs
[18:38] <shallwe> ?
[18:39] <shallwe> acho que esse seu recuperou alguma coisa já ta na vantagem, rodou até o final sera?
[18:41] <shallwe> bom mas ta ficando muito fora do tópico kkkk, os softwares tem bastante como vc pesquisou no google
[18:41] <rafael> hugutux_: testdisk já me salvou várias vezes
[18:41] <rafael> hugutux_: algumas ferramentas do hirens podem te ajudar tb
[18:41] <rafael> boa sorte, recuperar HD é uma arte
[18:42] <hugutux_> shallwe, não sei qual era o formato do disco antes! vou ver se obtenho essa informação!
[18:42] <shallwe> hugutux_, mas pra mim não adianta nada, só era curiosidade kkk
[18:42] <hugutux_> rafael, vou estudar o Hirens.. uso ele a muitos anos, mas não para recovery! Não ainda! hehe
[18:43] <hugutux_> shallwe, hehehe sei man.. mas o softwares pede.. quando mandei com o photorec, passei como ntfs
[18:43] <rafael> hugutux_: com o test disk já recuperei de uma unica vez 1.5 TB de exames de pacientes. Era literalmente caso de vida ou morte
[18:43] <rafael> NTFS
[18:43] <hugutux_> rafael, o testdisk e o photorec são os mesmos caras.. ou não!?
[18:43] <rafael> hugutux_: sim, praticamente
[18:44] <rafael> hugutux_: o testdisk tem algumas melhorias
[18:44] <hugutux_> rafael, pelo que li o test faz uma coisa e o photo outra.. mas no final o photorec é melhor!
[18:44] <hugutux_> rafael, huuuuum! vou usar ele então. para ver de qual é!
[18:44] <rafael> hugutux_: ideal é pedir para o testdisk verificar erros no setor de boot
[18:44] <rafael> e depois partir para a recuperação
[18:45] <hugutux_> rafael, saquei.. vou ver o que dá para fazer!
[18:57] <Ferrhcp> Sugestão de Softpone galera?
[19:02] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, já tentou o zoiper?
[19:02] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, x-lite, 3cx também!
[19:03] <hugutux_> qudno faço meus elastix da vida, vou de zoiper no smartphone e o x-lite no desktop!
[19:04] <Ferrhcp> o zoiper ta dandopau no audio
[19:04] <Ferrhcp> e o jitsi tb
[19:04] <Ferrhcp> vou testar os outros
[19:04] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, qual o problema?
[19:05] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, o 3cx comigo não funciona bem... ele sempre reclama falando que não é compativél.. mas por vezes funciona tmb.. ele é de lua!
[19:06] <Ferrhcp> o zoiper
[19:06] <Ferrhcp> o audio fica horrivel, e isso no debian tb ficava
[19:06] <Ferrhcp> o jitisi
[19:06] <Ferrhcp> perde configuração do nada
[19:07] <Ferrhcp> ta funcioando do nada ele perde
[19:07] <Ferrhcp> as configuarações do audio
[19:07] <Ferrhcp> ao o fone toca, ele n me alarma
[19:07] <Ferrhcp> eu n atendo
[19:07] <Ferrhcp> ai era o presidente da empresa ai ja viu npe
[19:07] <Ferrhcp> né* rs
[19:08] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, ai não tem como ficar sem né!? hehe
[19:09] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, salvo engano você consegue fazer o pidgin, trabalhar com SIP também.. se for seu caso!
[19:09] <hugutux_> preciso dar uma googlada!
[19:10] <Ferrhcp> tem como subir uma vm com o windows e instalar o zoper
[19:10] <Ferrhcp> mas eu me nego
[19:11] <Ferrhcp> a fazer isso vou achar uma solução
[19:11] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, kkkkk ta no ubuntu?
[19:11] <Ferrhcp> sim
[19:13] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, já tentou o ekiga?
[19:13] <hugutux_> acho que ele é nativo
[19:13] <Ferrhcp> sim
[19:13] <hugutux_> iih
[19:13] <Ferrhcp> mas ele não conecta no server nem a pau
[19:13] <Ferrhcp> nem ele e nem os outros todos
[19:14] <Ferrhcp> os unicos que conectam no server é o jtisi e o zoiper
[19:15] <hugutux_> o x-lite é de boa pra caramba!
[19:15] <hugutux_> estrnaho
[19:15] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, QuteCom ta uma olhada!
[19:15] <Ferrhcp> ta
[19:15] <Ferrhcp> pera ja dou o feedback
[19:19] <Vico> Boa tarde
[19:20] <shallwe> Vico, boa tarde
[19:20] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, a lista parece ser meio antiga, mas... http://hubpages.com/technology/10-Open-Source-VoIP-sofphones
[19:20] <hugutux_> Vico, tarde!
[19:20] <Ferrhcp> QuteCom
[19:20] <Ferrhcp> parece ser bom
[19:21] <Vico> Instalei o ubuntu 14.10 Lts no meu notebook acer aspire 5516 e não consigo configurar a internet
[19:21] <shallwe> Vico, wifi?
[19:21] <shallwe> ou a rede?
[19:22] <Vico> wifi
[19:22] <shallwe> 14.10 não é LTs, o 14.04 que é
[19:22] <shallwe> alias o 14.10 não é mais suportado atualmente, mas funciona igual claro
[19:23] <Ferrhcp> hugutux
[19:23] <Ferrhcp> muito obrigado cara
[19:23] <Vico> Isso uso o 14.04 LTS
[19:23] <shallwe> Vico, a bom
[19:23] <Ferrhcp> resolveu meu problema esse carinha QuteCom é simples e muito bom
[19:23] <shallwe> Vico, na realidade ele não acha o drive é isso?
[19:24] <Vico> isso
[19:24] <shallwe> faz aí no terminal um "lspci"
[19:24] <shallwe> e vê se aparece a wifi
[19:24] <shallwe> no meu caso é pc então aparece: 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
[19:25] <Vico> aparece os controladores é isso?
[19:26] <shallwe> tem que aparecer algo como WIFI WIRELESS etc
[19:26] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, falou man! estamos ai para isso!
[19:26] <Vico> isso não aparece
[19:27] <hugutux_> Vico, ele deve retornar algo como o nome ou modelo da placa wireless
[19:27] <hugutux_> atheros, broadcom.. coisas assim
[19:28] <Vico> o nome da placa aparece sim
[19:28] <Vico> Atheros AR8132
[19:30] <hugutux_> Vico, no painel não mostra de wireless? não tem a opção de você ativar, ou algo assim?
[19:30] <Vico> não
[19:32] <Vico> Entrei em painel depois em network e não aparece nada para habilitar
[19:32] <Vico> Seria em Airplane mode?
[19:34] <shallwe> Vico, eu acho que a minha placa é essa tb
[19:34] <shallwe> só por dúvida a tecla não está desabilitada né?
[19:34] <shallwe> do wifi
[19:34] <hugutux_> shallwe,kkkkk
[19:35] <hugutux_> Vico, pode ser mesmo mano!
[19:35] <Vico> esta, eu não consigo habilitar ela
[19:35] <hugutux_> isso aconece sempre acontece!
[19:35] <shallwe> vc tem dual bot com windows?
[19:35] <hugutux_> Vico, é chave ou combinação de teclas?
[19:35] <Vico> chave
[19:35] <shallwe> vico vc tem dual bot com windows?
[19:36] <Vico> não
[19:36] <Vico> isso tb aconteceu no windows mas foi só instalar o driver da placa que resolveu
[19:37] <shallwe> certo, mas se apareceu a linha do Atheros AR8132 então quer dizer que vc está com ela aí
[19:37] <shallwe> não é a " Ethernet controller:" certo?
[19:38] <Vico> é sim
[19:39] <shallwe> melhor com outro comando entçao
[19:39] <shallwe> lspci -v
[19:39] <shallwe> só não cola aqui por favor se não vai fazr fload
[19:39] <shallwe> na linha que aparece ethernet diz que é wifi ou não
[19:41] <Vico> na linha Network Controller sim
[19:42] <shallwe> diz que é wifi?
[19:42] <shallwe> ou wireless?
[19:42] <Vico> wireless
[19:42] <shallwe> então ta bom ta aí já sendo reconhecida
[19:43] <shallwe> e vc está conectado nele pelo cabo ou está em outro pc?
[19:43] <Vico> estou em outro pc
[19:44] <shallwe> pois é, então vê ai se não ta desabilitado o wifi, tecla "FN" + o desenho do wireles
[19:44] <shallwe> que deve estar ai nos F2 F3 por ai
[19:44] <Vico> o meu notebook tem o botão e esta desativado, eu clico no botão mas não ativa
[19:45] <shallwe> a bom deve ser diferente, mas se vc já apertou então está ok
[19:46] <Vico> no windows eu só consegui ativar depois que instalei o driver da placa
[19:46] <shallwe> pois é mas se ele leu o terminal é pq já está ok
[19:46] <shallwe> a princípio
[19:47] <shallwe> Vico, tem um painel de drive proprietário não tem?
[19:48] <shallwe> vico faz assim, abre o painel do sistema configurações
[19:49] <Vico> abri
[19:49] <shallwe> desculpa melhor ainda
[19:49] <shallwe> digita lá na busca
[19:49] <shallwe> drivers e era isso vai aparecer o ícone dos drivers adicionais
[19:50] <shallwe> ícone de uma placa verde
[19:50] <Vico> abri ele
[19:50] <shallwe> ta agora ele vai ler
[19:50] <shallwe> e ve se aparece alguma coisa pode demorar um pouco
[19:50] <Vico> Na aba additional drivers não aparece nada
[19:51] <shallwe> nem a placa de video?
[19:51] <hugutux_> shallwe, o que rolou no comando lshw -C network?
[19:52] <Vico> não, e tb aparece que não tem proprietary drivers em uso
[19:53] <Vico> será que pode ser problema na instalação do ubuntu?
[19:53] <shallwe> Vico, é meio estranho o ubuntu não reconhece essa placa de wireless
[19:53] <shallwe> a sim
[19:54] <shallwe> acho que vc precisa habilitar programas de terceitos
[19:54] <Vico> Eu não sei se instalei certo o ubuntu, pois ele só carrega se estiver com o pendrive conectado
[19:54] <shallwe> Vico, ui
[19:54] <bakhtin> Olá, gente
[19:54] <bakhtin> Boa tarde
[19:54] <shallwe> bakhtin, olá
[19:54] <hugutux_> shallwe, se tentar configurar o acesso no terminal.. pra ver se rola!
[19:54] <shallwe> boa tarde
[19:54] <MerliM> bakhtin, boa
[19:55] <hugutux_> tipo assim
[19:55] <hugutux_> sudo iwconfig <ath0> essid <essid> ap <xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:> key <XXX> mode <> commit
[19:55] <shallwe> hugutux_, acho que ele não habilitou repositorio de terceiros ai não acha os drivers proprietários eu acredito
[19:55] <shallwe> hugutux_, mas fala com ele não comigo kkk
[19:55] <shallwe> parece que ele só ta falando comigo kkkk
[19:55] <bakhtin> Poderiam me ajudar em um problema...quando executo o seguinte comando sudo apt-get install -f aparece a seguinte mensagem: "0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos e 5 não atualizados."
[19:56] <bakhtin> Gostaria de saber como faço para atualizar esses 5 pacotes não atualizados.
[19:56] <Vico> como que habilito programas de terceiros?
[19:56] <shallwe> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[19:56] <nuno_nunes> shallwe, qual é a placa de rede
[19:56] <nuno_nunes> wifi
[19:56] <bakhtin> Já tentei o sudo apt-get update e não deu certo.
[19:56] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, é com o Vico
[19:57] <MerliM> bakhtin, upgrade***
[19:57] <shallwe> não sou eu que to com problema
[19:57] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, atheros ar8132 acho que essa
[19:57] <bakhtin> será que resolverá o problema?
[19:57] <MerliM> tente
[19:57] <nuno_nunes> se for broadcom tem que tem instalar os drivers de terceiros
[19:57] <nuno_nunes> :D
[19:57] <shallwe> bakhtin, o sudo apt-get upgrade ele faz isso atualiza os pacotes que tem que atualizar
[19:58] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, pois é, mas acho que ele só vai achar drive de terceiros se habilitar repositorios de terceiros certo?
[19:58] <bakhtin> não seria o apt-get update?
[19:58] <shallwe> bakhtin, update ele busca informações
[19:58] <nuno_nunes> Vico, posso ajudar em alguma coisa
[19:58] <shallwe> o upgrade atualiza
[19:59] <Vico> nuno_nunes como habilito drivers de terceiros?
[20:00] <nuno_nunes> Vico, faz sudo apt-get update
[20:00] <nuno_nunes> e depois no dash procura drivers
[20:00] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:00] <shallwe> nuno_nunes, ele nao tem internet
[20:00] <nuno_nunes> eu j
[20:00] <shallwe> Vico, liga o cabo de rede lá
[20:00] <shallwe> se não acho que ele não vai achar nada kkk
[20:00] <nuno_nunes> o cabo de rede da
[20:00] <nuno_nunes> o meu usa
[20:00] <nuno_nunes> 01:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[20:00] <nuno_nunes> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[20:01] <shallwe> Vico, aí faz de novo a treta pra achar os drivers adicionais
[20:02] <Vico> Ok, galera obrigado pela ajuda preciso sair agora.
[20:02] <shallwe> Vico, blz depois tenta de novo com o cabo de rede
[20:03] <Vico> vou tentar.
[20:23] <Ferrhcp> Galera
[20:23] <Ferrhcp> o wine consegue executar todos os softwares
[20:23] <Ferrhcp> ?
[20:24] <MerliM> Ferrhcp, o que seriam todos os softs???
[20:24] <MerliM> Wine is not windows
[20:24] <nuno_nunes> ola boa noite
[20:25] <Ferrhcp> eu tenho uma app
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> wine is a not windows
[20:25] <Ferrhcp> de um chat
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> Execute aplicativos Windows no Linux, BSD, Solaris e Mac OS X
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> Search:
[20:25] <Ferrhcp> chat comercial
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> WineHQ
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> Wiki
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> AppDB
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> Bugzilla
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> Forums
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> :D
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> Ferrhcp, veja aqui
[20:25] <nuno_nunes> https://appdb.winehq.org/
[20:26] <Ferrhcp> blz
[20:26] <nuno_nunes> se a app é compativel com wine
[20:26] <nuno_nunes> :p
[20:27] <Ferrhcp> não, rs não esta
[20:27] <Ferrhcp> ele instalou mas não rodou
[20:27] <MerliM> qual o app
[20:28] <Ferrhcp> é um app
[20:28] <MerliM> veja as dlls necessárias
[20:28] <Ferrhcp> chamado chatcomercial
[20:28] <MerliM> proprietário né
[20:28] <Ferrhcp> sim
[20:28] <Ferrhcp> ai não rola
[20:28] <Ferrhcp> dificil
[20:28] <MerliM> não seria mais facil emular de uma vbox????
[20:28] <nuno_nunes> pois pode nao ser compativel com o wine
[20:28] <MerliM> nao tem q saber quais as dependencias dele no windows
[20:28] <nuno_nunes> pode testar o wine com o windows xp
[20:28] <Ferrhcp> na verdade, ele tem uma versão no borwser
[20:28] <MerliM> o que ele precisa ter em paralelo para rodar tipo net framework e ir ajustando
[20:29] <Ferrhcp> mas n eh completo
[20:29] <MerliM> geralmente se instalou basta configurar direitinho uma dica é chamar pelo console ex: wine NOMEDOPROGRAMA
[20:29] <nuno_nunes> ou usa a versão do browser
[20:29] <MerliM> dai ele vai dizer na linha de comando os fixme e os error
[20:29] <Ferrhcp> deixa eu tentar
[20:30] <MerliM> Ferrhcp, esse versao browser depende de que?? pra subir
[20:30] <MerliM> usaria a do browser até ir resolvendo a nativa
[20:35] <Ferrhcp> é o jeito
[20:35] <Ferrhcp> man
[20:35] <MerliM> hggdh, olha esse email da lista Ubuntu-BR no google group
[20:35] <MerliM> Aguarde mais um pouco até a Microsoft concluir a compra da Ubuntu.
[20:35] <MerliM> Mas existem outras distribuições interessantes: Fedora, Debian, Arch, etc.
[20:35] <MerliM> Abraço
[20:35] <Ferrhcp> é vdd isso?
[20:35] <Ferrhcp> #partiumint
[20:45] <hugutux_> Ferrhcp, esse hgg* era hugutux? ou estou boiando?
[20:56] <Ferrhcp> não entendi hugutux
[21:03] <manokara> galera, o host xhci "morrendo"... é problema do kernel ou da placa mãe (ou pior, dos dois)?
[21:03] <manokara> isso só dá com o mouse, mas eu testei ele em outro pc e tá normal
[21:04] <manokara> no começo acontecia as vezes, mas agora ta travando direto, e o dmesg manda altos erros no host
[22:10] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:17] <Democradir> Boa noite!
[22:18] <Democradir> Baixei um programa mas não consigo instalá-lo. Pode me auxiliar?
[22:18] <astroo-> ola
[22:19] <astroo-> diz qual e que versao ubuntu tens
[22:19] <Democradir> 14.04 lts
[22:20] <Democradir> não consigo pelo terminal
[22:20] <Democradir> aplico estes comandos, mas não funciona: sudo apt-get install /home/democradir/documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb
[22:21] <Democradir> diz que não encontra o pacote
[22:22] <jotaerre89> Democradir dpkg -i master-pdf-editor3.deb
[22:23] <Democradir> vou tentar
[22:24] <Democradir> deu isso: dpkg: erro: a operação solicitada requer privilégios de superusuário
[22:25] <jotaerre89> Então, execute o comando 'sudo': sudo -i
[22:25] <jotaerre89> Ele vai pedir a sua senha
[22:25] <jotaerre89> depois execute o dpkg -i
[22:27] <Democradir> deu isto;
[22:27] <Democradir> sudo -i master-pdf-editor3.deb -bash: master-pdf-editor3.deb: comando não encontrado
[22:29] <jotaerre89> Democradir comando 'sudo -i' é somente ele. Sem o nome do arquivo seguindo o comando.
[22:30] <jotaerre89> Democradir 'sudo -i' é pra vc definir permissões de super-user ao seu usuário
[22:30] <Democradir> não pediu a senha depois
[22:30] <jotaerre89> mudou de $ para # no Terminal?
[22:30] <Democradir> é
[22:31] <Democradir> veja o que fiz
[22:31] <Democradir> sudo -i root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~# dpkg -i master-pdf-editor3.deb dpkg: error processing archive master-pdf-editor3.deb (--install): impossível acessar arquivo: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de: master-pdf-editor3.deb root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~#
[22:31] <Democradir> e o que apareceu
[22:31] <jotaerre89> Democradir OK. Defina o nome do caminho do arquivo no comando dpkg -i
[22:32] <jotaerre89> Democradir exemplo: dpkg -i /home/.../arquivo
[22:33] <Guilherme> Boa noite, galera. Gostaria que alguém esclarecesse uma dúvida
[22:33] <Democradir> jotaerre89 sem barra no final?
[22:34] <jotaerre89> Democradir dpkg -i /home/democradir/documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb
[22:34] <astroo-> ola
[22:34] <astroo-> Guilherme poe sempre a duvida e sistema que usas
[22:35] <Guilherme> OK
[22:36] <Democradir> deu erro
[22:36] <Democradir> root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~# dpkg -i /home/democradir/documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb dpkg: error processing archive /home/democradir/documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb (--install): impossível acessar arquivo: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de: /home/democradir/documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~#
[22:37] <Guilherme> a minha é a seguinte: o Ubuntu 14.04.03 LTS não inicia na minha máquinha de forma alguma. Outras versões como a 15.04 e 15.10 iniciam normalmente. Acho que devo ser a versão do kernel, não sei ao certo
[22:37] <jotaerre89> Democradir o arquivo está em /home/democradir/documentos mesmo?
[22:37] <jotaerre89> Democradir não está em Downloads?
[22:37] <Democradir> está, mas agora vi que documentos é com D
[22:38] <jotaerre89> Democradir :)
[22:41] <Democradir> continua com erro
[22:41] <Democradir> root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~# dpkg -i /home/democradir/Documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb dpkg: error processing archive /home/democradir/Documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb (--install): impossível acessar arquivo: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de: /home/democradir/Documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~#
[22:42] <Democradir> não é o arquivo compactado
[22:42] <Democradir> é o pacote extraído, está certo, né?
[22:43] <jotaerre89> Democradir nome do arquivo não tem letras maiúsculas? O mais correto seria vc via terminal acessar o diretório onde está o pacote .deb e lá executar o dpkg.
[22:43] <jotaerre89> Democradir com o comando dpkg -i ele vai instalar o pacote .deb sem resolver dependências.
[22:44] <Democradir> ok, agora acho que vai dar certo
[22:45] <Democradir> não deu
[22:45] <Democradir> estou digitand tudo certo
[22:46] <jotaerre89> Democradir mesmo erro?
[22:46] <Democradir> o mesmo, diz que não encontra
[22:46] <jotaerre89> Democradir tentou instalar direto da pasta onde está o arquivo?
[22:47] <Democradir> mas está lá, na pasta Documentos
[22:47] <Democradir> tentei, não deu
[22:47] <jotaerre89> Democradir executa o comando 'pwd' e cola o caminho que ele retorna, pfv
[22:48] <Democradir> sem o .deb?
[22:49] <jotaerre89> Democradir somente pwd mais nada
[22:49] <Democradir> ok
[22:49] <Democradir> deu isso
[22:49] <Democradir> root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~# pwd /root root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~# /home/democradir/Documentos/master-pdf-editor-3-bash: /home/democradir/Documentos/master-pdf-editor-3: É um diretório
[22:50] <Democradir> tem um arquivo lá que é executável, segundo as propriedades dele
[22:51] <jotaerre89> Democradir volta um diretório. Fique em /home/democradir/Documentos
[22:51] <jotaerre89> Democradir depois confirme se existe de fato o arquivo .deb em /home/democradir/Documentos
[22:52] <Democradir> jotaerre89 root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~# /home/democradir/Documentos -bash: /home/democradir/Documentos: É um diretório root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~#
[22:52] <rafaelsoaresbr> jotaerre89, você está no diretório /root
[22:53] <jotaerre89> Democradir agora, com o comando ls verifique se existe o arquivo .deb no diretório /home/democradir/Documentos
[22:53] <rafaelsoaresbr> ops Democradir
[22:53] <jotaerre89> rafaelsoaresbr :)
[22:54] <rafaelsoaresbr> :)
[22:55] <rafaelsoaresbr> dpkg -i muda pro diretório /root automaticamente
[22:55] <rafaelsoaresbr> sudo -i *
[22:55] <Democradir> o master-pdf apareceu, é isso?
[22:56] <Democradir> root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~# ls .deb ls: não é possível acessar .deb: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado root@democradir-Aspire-E1-571:~# ls .deb /home/democradir/Documentos ls: não é possível acessar .deb: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado /home/democradir/Documentos
[22:56] <rafaelsoaresbr> Democradir, exit
[22:57] <rafaelsoaresbr> Democradir, sudo dpkg -i /home/democradir/Documentos/master-pdf-editor3.deb
[22:57] <Democradir> o comando não detectou .deb no diretório
[22:58] <rafaelsoaresbr> tem certeza que o arquivo está na pasta Documentos?
[23:00] <Democradir> veio o compactado, descompactei, e colei a pasta no diretório Documentos
[23:00] <Democradir> vou tentar baixar novamente de outro site
[23:00] <Democradir> conhece algum?
[23:01] <Democradir> Muito obrigado por vossa ajuda. Preciso sair agora. Grato jotaerre e rafael
[23:39] <adrianobs> Preciso levantar especificações do meu note e ainda não sei fazer isso no ubuntu (sou novo...). Como descubro qual a minha placa de video e minha memoria? Existe algum programa tipo "Everest" que faça isto?
[23:42] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[23:42] <gbrandao> pode executar os comandos lshw e hwinfo
[23:42] <adrianobs> ok
[23:42] <gbrandao> para maiores informações consultar o help
[23:43] <adrianobs> desculpe minha ignorância, mas o que é o help?
[23:44] <gbrandao> lshw --help
[23:44] <gbrandao> hwinfo --help
[23:44] <adrianobs> ah sim'ok
[23:44] <adrianobs> grato!
[23:44] <gbrandao> nada
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[03:00] <nhaines> wxl: we must have gotten at least some nominations because I know svij was nominated. :)
[17:29] <wxl> nhaines: i thought all the nominations went through the loco-council list tho?
[17:30] <nhaines> wxl: I believe his did.
[17:32] <wxl> nhaines: weird. i guess i missed it.
[23:05] <tsimonq2> wxl: just wondering, since the Ubuntu Wisconsin Team isn't "active", per-say, how would I make it officially "active" again?
[23:05] <tsimonq2> wxl: because don't you have to renew the team and keep it "active"
[23:07] <tsimonq2> or anybody else who knows the answer to that question
[23:07] <tsimonq2> !lococouncil
[23:08] <ahoneybun> yea you have to renew it
[23:08] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: how would I do that?
[23:09] <ahoneybun> the loco council can do it I think
[23:17] <tsimonq2> which is why I pinged them XD
[23:18] * tsimonq2 pokes wxl
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2015-11-03-#ubuntu-desktop
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[06:30] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:00] <didrocks> good morning
[07:04] <seb128> hey didrocks
[07:05] <seb128> swinging back on the 8am start? ;-)
[07:05] <didrocks> salut seb128, ça va ?
[07:05] <didrocks> yeah ;)
[07:05] <seb128> ouais, et toi ?
[07:05] <seb128> no pitti, I think I was first for once :p
[07:05] <hikiko> hi all :)
[07:05] <didrocks> heh
[07:05] <seb128> hey hikiko
[07:05] <didrocks> seb128: well, you then leave for some minutes, so it's cheating :)
[07:05] <didrocks> seb128: encore un ou deux trucs dans la gorge, mais ça va :)
[07:06] <seb128> cool
[07:06] <hikiko> no :) I was first I just forgot to say hi!!
[07:06] <seb128> hehe
[07:06] <hikiko> (hi!!) :P
[07:06] <seb128> hikiko, saying hi is part of the game ;-)
[07:06] <seb128> hey hikiko!
[07:06] <didrocks> hey hikiko
[07:07] <hikiko> hey seb128 hey didrocks hey pitty !
[07:25] <darkxst> hey seb128 didrocks
[07:25] <seb128> hey darkxst
[07:26] <darkxst> webkit2gtk FTBFS with a segfault in ld bfd on arm64, ran out of ram perhaps?
[07:26] <darkxst> that will block the transitions
[07:28] <seb128> right, I just retried that a minute ago
[07:28] <seb128> retried indicator-datetime on ppcel64 as well
[07:28] <seb128> but trying to read http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt
[07:28] <seb128> there seems to be more
[07:28] <didrocks> evening darkxst
[07:29] <seb128> I wonder if the 2 big groups should be hinted to go as one
[07:29] <darkxst> seb128, yeh, but I couldnt find anything else looking through the GNOME stuff
[07:30] <seb128> like britney is not trying to make e-d-s and gnome-desktop go together
[07:30] <seb128> and they need to
[07:30] <seb128> need Laney, I don't know how to hint britney to do that
[07:30] <seb128> didrocks, ^ or do you know?
[07:31] <didrocks> seb128: I can't hint more than touch things
[07:31] <seb128> k
[07:31] <didrocks> seb128: and I don't think you can either
[07:31] <seb128> so let's wait for Laney
[07:31] <didrocks> yep
[07:38] <duflu> seb128: Are there any common devices (not made by IBM) that use the ppc archs?
[07:38] <duflu> And not old Macs :)
[07:38] <seb128> duflu, I've no idea sorry
[07:38] <duflu> Watson... I guess.
[07:39] <duflu> Oh, and PS3 is a relation of ppc
[07:40] <duflu> And Wii
[07:46] <didrocks> funny that some try to automate installation with pexpect and such, and don't use --help to see that there are switches already doing automation for you :)
[07:47] <didrocks> (and way more reliable than pexpect)
[07:48] <didrocks> nice, a new contributor!
[07:48] * didrocks really likes when new contributions can add a new framework with just few lines: https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make/pull/170/files
[07:48] <didrocks> (and all declarative)
[07:48] <darkxst> duflu, there are embedded ppc chips, probably not exactly common though
[08:08] <seb128> bah, I hate autotools
[08:41] <seb128> Laney, darkxst, bug #1512435 has changes to review, I would welcome your opinions on those
[08:45] <larsu> good morning!
[08:45] <seb128> hey larsu, how are you?
[08:47] <larsu> seb128: great, thanks! Sunny morning here again
[08:47] <larsu> seb128: how are you?
[08:47] <seb128> same here :-)
[08:47] <larsu> nice :)
[08:48] <didrocks> good morning larsu!
[08:48] <didrocks> sunny morning, lucky you guys
[08:48] <didrocks> cloudy here
[08:48] <didrocks> and not digital clouds
[08:49] <larsu> bonjour didrocks!
[08:49] <larsu> haha
[08:49] <darkxst> seb128, I would lean towards not sharing the data, with g-c-c in universe and most normal users not having both packages installed (and its small anyway), doesnt seem a huge issue if a few static images are duplicated?
[08:50] <seb128> darkxst, the issue is that things look to /usr/share/pixmaps/faces not in private subdirs
[08:50] <seb128> this is supposed to be a cross desktop standard location
[08:51] <seb128> so we can't easily ship the files in both packages
[08:51] <seb128> they would conflict
[08:52] <darkxst> seb128, right
[08:53] <seb128> we could teach u-c-c to look in a private dir first and then to the normal one and include its images in a private subdir, but then we would have icons listed twice when g-c-c is installed
[08:53] <seb128> or am I missing something obvious?
[08:55] <darkxst> seb128, probably they would be duplicated
[08:55] <darkxst> the pkla change will also work for ubuntu GNOME?
[08:56] <darkxst> just keep the shared faces package I guess
[08:56] <seb128> ubuntu-gnome-desktop recommends policykit-desktop-privileges
[08:56] <seb128> so it should work yes
[08:56] <willcooke> morning
[08:57] <hikiko> I did a small experiment these days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYeFN0vOG_M and I think we could have shadows for any window (here I get the window shape for shaped windows) I don't know how to do it in compiz yet but the idea I had at the sprint (that we can just draw the shape twice in the texture and do some visual effects so that it looks like a shadow) seems to be feasible ( desrt willcooke )
[08:57] <hikiko> good morning willcooke
[08:57] <seb128> darkxst, that binary include permissions for other things like mounting disks
[08:58] <darkxst> seb128, well except for the idiots who insist on installing with --no-recommends, and then complain stuff is broken, maybe it should be a dep instead?
[08:58] <seb128> your call, but it seems like it should
[08:58] <larsu> hi hikiko - cool stuff!
[08:59] <seb128> you can look to /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla to see what is included in there
[08:59] <willcooke> hikiko, nice!
[08:59] <larsu> hey willcooke, darkxst
[08:59] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:59] <darkxst> hey larsu, willcooke
[09:00] <seb128> darkxst, btw new gjs has failing test on powerpc, I retried 3 times it seems to fail consistently
[09:00] <seb128> build is failing on that
[09:00] <hikiko> hi larsu darkxst :)
[09:01] <Sweet5hark> hello desktoppers
[09:01] <larsu> hi Sweet5hark
[09:02] <Laney> good morning!!!!
[09:02] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark
[09:02] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:02] <darkxst> hey hikiko
[09:02] * Sweet5hark looks at backlog, sees complains about clouds.
[09:03] <Sweet5hark> we have end of the world fog here since Monday morning.
[09:03] <Laney> same
[09:04] <Laney> less bad today though
[09:04] <darkxst> seb128, probably an endiness bug, but I have no ppc hardware to debug, just revert to ignoring ppc tests?
[09:04] <seb128> darkxst, or talk to mbielb maybe he's interesting in debugging it?
[09:04] <darkxst> it was that way for a long time, until someone came along and fixed them
[09:05] <larsu> morning Laney!
[09:05] <didrocks> hey Laney!
[09:05] <didrocks> morning Sweet5hark
[09:05] <darkxst> seb128, I have a feeling debian ignore tests more or less always
[09:05] <seb128> darkxst, doesn't hurt to mention those issues to them in any case
[09:06] <Laney> hi larsu didrocks
[09:06] <Laney> how's it going
[09:07] <larsu> very good thanks
[09:07] <larsu> how about you?
[09:08] <Laney> also good!
[09:08] <Laney> pub quiz tonight ;-)
[09:08] <larsu> nice!
[09:08] * seb128 feels ignored by Laney not saying hi :-(
[09:08] <Laney> oh no
[09:09] * Laney purrs at seb128
[09:09] <seb128> :-)
[09:09] <Laney> here for you man
[09:09] * seb128 is happier now
[09:10] * seb128 pets Laney
[09:10] * Sweet5hark just lighted the IR/redlight/heat lamp. screw you, Hamburg weather. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[09:14] <darkxst> seb128, I will ping him'
[09:20] <darkxst> seb128, I guess policykit-desktop-privileges recommends comes from one of the foundation seeds, and not ours
[09:22] <seb128> could be
[09:22] <seb128> thanks for the ping
[09:22] * Laney eyes wk2
[09:22] <Laney> oh it failed before too, interesting
[09:23] <Laney> oh no clicked the wrong thing
[09:23] * Laney fails
[09:25] <seb128> Laney, can you tell britney to try to batch the world in one go? ;-)
[09:25] <Laney> it won't work
[09:25] <Laney> unity
[09:25] <Laney> epiphany
[09:27] <seb128> well, it would tell us if those are the only ones and it's going to be needed at some point since it doesn't try groups together, no?
[09:28] <seb128> shrug, the webkit2gtk arm64 retry failed :-/
[09:28] <seb128> I've a feeling it's going to be an annoying one
[09:30] <Laney> the list it has seems right
[09:30] <seb128> k, I think I'm just clueless with britney's output then
[09:30] <seb128> I don't get why e-d-s and gnome-desktop3 are not in one set when they have common components
[09:31] <seb128> they can't success without the other one
[09:32] <Laney> look for this one
[09:32] <Laney> Trying easy from autohinter: gnome-contacts/3.18.0-1ubuntu2 folks/0.11.1-2build2 evolution-data-server/3.18.1-1ubuntu1
[09:32] <Laney> compiz needs rebuild against new libmetacity-private
[09:32] <Laney> gnome-ssession is blocked at excuses
[09:32] <seb128> speaking of which, when is excuses updating?
[09:33] <seb128> it's over 3 hours old
[09:33] <seb128> is that normal?
[09:33] <Laney> every time proposed changes
[09:33] <Laney> or tests come in?
[09:33] <seb128> I retried tests and fixing stuff for like 2 hours
[09:33] <Laney> I think
[09:33] <Laney> look at the log/
[09:34] <seb128> I don't understand why gnome-session doesn't pick the firefox i386 status
[09:34] <seb128> it's in progress but the test failed http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/f/firefox/xenial/i386/
[09:34] <seb128> I even did a retried that failed as well
[09:35] <seb128> but that didn't success to change the status on the summary
[09:37] <Laney> hopefully it will re-run now that I did an upload
[09:37] <Laney> if nothing else
[09:38] <Laney> it's supposed to see that there are tests in progress and try to run if there are
[09:38] <seb128> I did retry builds that failed before and successed this time
[09:38] <seb128> that's not enough to trigger a refresh either?
[09:39] <seb128> anyway
[09:39] <seb128> let's see if it does update
[09:39] <Laney> did anyone look at the Trevinho silo?
[09:40] <seb128> I didn't
[09:40] <seb128> I though you were handling it
[09:41] <Laney> yeah left some comments last night though
[09:42] <seb128> yeah, doesn't seem like there was any activity after that
[09:42] <Laney> ok
[09:42] <seb128> I called it a day around the time you commente
[09:42] <seb128> d
[09:42] <seb128> but there is nothing in the night irc log
[09:42] <seb128> need to wait for Trevinho I guess
[09:42] <Trevinho> seb128: actually I was here for an hour or so, but I forgot to open IRC -_-
[09:43] <Trevinho> sorry, good morning
[09:43] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[09:43] <Laney> hi!
[09:43] <Trevinho> Laney: so... did you see my comments?
[09:43] <Trevinho> Laney: hi!
[09:43] <Laney> sure
[09:43] <Laney> you are saying that you want it to be ~bzr?
[09:43] * Trevinho didin't check th reply :P
[09:43] <Laney> didn't reply
[09:43] <Laney> sso was a barrier too far
[09:44] <Trevinho> ah... :D
[09:44] <Laney> and tell me about this {} thing in .install
[09:44] <Trevinho> Laney: well, I didn't release so I thought it was a way to have the ubuntu version bumped (as pre-0.5.2 releease), but not the upstream one
[09:44] <Trevinho> which one?
[09:44] <Trevinho> I read the comment but I didn't understand, or maybe didn't grep too well
[09:45] <Trevinho> (that branch is quite old)
[09:45] <Laney> https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-2-publish/91/artifact/bamf_packaging_changes.diff
[09:45] <Laney> ~bzr means the symbols get a weird version
[09:45] <seb128> Laney, Trevinho, that looks like trying to handle case where the package is multiarched or not
[09:46] <seb128> is that dynamic/magic depending of the debhelper version/serie?
[09:46] <Laney> that confuses me
[09:46] <Laney> and I don't think dh_install really officially supports it, there used to be a lintian tag for that
[09:46] <Laney> maybe still is
[09:46] <seb128> for what ?
[09:47] <seb128> {,}?
[09:47] <Laney> yes
[09:47] <seb128> I saw it used in other places I think
[09:49] * Laney shrugs, it's not supported
[09:49] <seb128> could well be, I don't have any example on disk
[09:50] <Laney> don't see any weird magic in the packaging either
[09:50] <Trevinho> Laney: ah, the {*,} was because I wanted to support packaging even where's there's no multi-arch, but maybev it's not needed
[09:50] <didrocks> would better be used for dh_exec, no?
[09:51] <Trevinho> Laney: anyway any change you want, I cand do them
[09:52] <Laney> seb128: looks like britney just finished a run which took ages
[09:52] <Laney> so should start another one...
[09:53] <seb128> Laney, ok, thanks
[09:54] <Laney> already did actually
[09:55] <seb128> great
[09:55] <Laney> Trevinho: I would just remove that change if I were you
[09:55] <seb128> shrug, why gnome-session thinks that the firefox autopkgtest is still in progress
[09:55] <Laney> it probably had the results from before
[09:56] <Laney> it waited for like 90 minutes at the end
[09:56] <Laney> don't know why
[09:56] <seb128> same gtk+3.0 thinks that gnome-photos fails
[09:56] <seb128> when it doesn't, retry worked
[09:56] <Laney> like the previous run was
[09:56] <Laney> Tue, 03 Nov 2015 07:27:05 +0000
[09:56] <Laney> STATS:
[09:56] <Laney> Tue, 03 Nov 2015 07:31:08 +0000
[09:56] <Laney> but this one...
[09:57] <Laney> oops pasted the wrong bit
[09:58] <Trevinho> Laney: I've spotted another small regression , so I'm going to rebuild anwyay
[09:58] <Trevinho> Laney: "that change" is the .install thing=
[09:58] <Trevinho> ?
[09:59] <Laney> 07:26:25 -> 07:27:05 vs 08:13:08 -> 09:37:48
[09:59] <Laney> Trevinho: yes
[09:59] <Sweet5hark> popey: popey, old friend!
[09:59] <popey> Good morning Mr Shark
[09:59] <Laney> Trevinho: I don't understand what you're saying about it not being an upstream release though
[09:59] <Sweet5hark> popey: which were the ppa again that you wanted to have libreoffice-vanilla stuff into?
[09:59] <Laney> what is the difference between this upload and a 0.5.2 release?
[09:59] <Sweet5hark> stupid me didnt copy that.
[10:00] <Trevinho> Laney: to release I mean I should do the tarball, close bugs... All these annoying stuff :P
[10:00] <popey> Sweet5hark, https://launchpad.net/~canonical-community/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[10:00] <popey> Sweet5hark, i use that one for building then copy to /stable or /debug
[10:00] <Sweet5hark> popey: ah, ok.
[10:01] <Laney> Trevinho: alright
[10:01] <Laney> lemme know when it's ready again
[10:03] <Sweet5hark> popey: I created/pushed lp:~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice-vanilla in the libreoffice packaging team alongside the repo for debian packaging: https://code.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice-vanilla/+git/libreoffice-vanilla
[10:04] <Sweet5hark> popey: we could move that to ~canonical-community, but maybe it makes more sense to keep it with the other libreoffice stuff.
[10:05] <popey> It does make more sense, yes.
[10:06] <Sweet5hark> popey: k
[10:07] <Sweet5hark> will download the latest modifications from ~canonical-community then and commit/push them to git then. And then prepare a 5.0.3 build
[10:10] <popey> Sweet5hark, magic, thanks!
[10:10] <seb128> Laney, so should we do anything for those autopkg status to be updated or just wait?
[10:12] <Laney> some of them are being updated
[10:12] <Laney> I'll just retry all the regressions
[10:12] <Laney> the ones that get stuck as "in progress" are more annoying
[10:16] <Sweet5hark> popey: here is a crazy thought: should we maybe make the libreoffice-vanilla source package build LibreOffice twice (once with debug symbols, once without) and provide two binaries, instead of having two branches?
[10:17] <popey> That does sound crazy, it could be very handy to have the debug build, especially on the phone, where this stuff hasn't been run much before.
[10:18] <Sweet5hark> popey: advantages: no fiddling with multiple branches and multiple uploads, just one fire-and-foget source package disadvantages: takes even longer to build, not so easy to do a quick do-not-need-the-debug-stuff-build ..
[10:19] <Sweet5hark> popey: you would have debug symbols. In fact you would have debug symbols all the time.
[10:20] <popey> Sweet5hark, I think it's worth doing, yes.
[10:21] <Sweet5hark> popey: you would have libreoffice-vanilla (source package) build twice and create two binary packages: libreoffice-vanilla and libreoffice-vanilla-debug (which wouldnt be installable at the same time).
[10:21] <popey> Sweet5hark, that works for me, we could modify the build script to choose which build to integrate
[10:22] <Sweet5hark> popey: and heck thats gonna be driving with a truck over the debian policy manual, but for these builds, I dont think we care much.
[10:22] <popey> Sweet5hark, well, we take the deb, pick it apart and repackage it anyway ;)
[10:22] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, popey, hi, why aren't you stripping the dbg symbols in a different package?
[10:22] <Sweet5hark> popey: ^^see
[10:22] <ricotz> or even let the ppa-builders create the dbgsym package automatically
[10:23] <ricotz> doing two builds are quite crazy
[10:23] <Sweet5hark> ricotz: Im kinda reluctant to depend too hard on features of the debian packaging tools for this.
[10:24] <ricotz> so use the dbgsym feature
[10:24] <popey> I personally don't mind how it's done.
[10:26] <Sweet5hark> ricotz: dpgsym feature _is_ a feature of debian packaging (and it would require changes on how we get the stuff out of the package/repackage again)
[10:27] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, are you sure you know what I mean?
[10:28] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, just don't strip the debugs symbols and turn on the dbgsym creation in the ppa-settings
[10:30] <Sweet5hark> ricotz: yes, and then we have multiple packages that need to be installed alongside each other, have dependencies etc. -- exactly what we what to avoid in the snappy world ...
[10:32] <Sweet5hark> popey: or is that ^^ ok with you/the snap-creation tools these days?
[10:37] <popey> Sweet5hark, we yank the debs from the archive, unpack them and put them in the right places. if there are two locations, or two package names we can pick from, we can do that.
[10:38] <popey> Sweet5hark, to be honest I expect to rarely (hah) need the debug builds, but when I need them I don't want to have to trigger some 10 hour build, but want to just switch to the debug build quickly
[10:40] <Laney> seb128: just retried all regressions / in progress tests
[10:40] <Laney> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.html
[10:40] <seb128> Laney, great
[10:40] <seb128> is there some magic command that does that?
[10:41] <Sweet5hark> popey: well, what ricotz is suggesting is to have two packages: the good old libreoffice-vanilla package (without symbols) and second one that you can install on top to get debug symbols. that the canonical old school debian packaging way.
[10:41] <Laney> yeah https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure#Re-running_tests
[10:41] <popey> Sweet5hark, I'm fine with that.
[10:41] <Laney> I hacked it to consider in progress too, not just regressions
[10:42] <Laney> (don't really understand why tests get stuck at in progress)
[10:42] <seb128> Laney, great
[10:42] <Sweet5hark> popey: I dont know how that works with whatever you do for snappifying. Then again, you dont need the symbols snappified, I guess as you only use it on proper desktops ...
[10:43] <Sweet5hark> popey: ok.
[10:43] <popey> Sweet5hark, we can work around whatever you do really :) I can just have two options in cmake, which can deal with whatever you do
[10:44] <Sweet5hark> popey: kk
[10:45] <ricotz> popey, so you are post-processing the built deb and not using it as is?
[10:46] <popey> ricotz, kinda, we unpack it and bake it into a click package for the phone
[10:46] <ricotz> popey, so just build a debug package without stripping anything, and strip the binaries in your process as needed?
[10:47] <popey> Hm, not sure about that.
[10:48] <ricotz> (I mean build *one* binary package which still includes the symbols)
[10:49] <popey> the debug build is significantly larger, and we don't need debug much of the time
[10:50] <ricotz> popey, you can strip those in your repackging process?
[10:50] <ricotz> and build two snappy packages then
[10:50] <popey> yeah, means downloading giant package and stripping it.
[10:51] <ricotz> which is way faster than building 10hours twice
[10:51] <popey> we aren't (currently) using snappy, it's click on the phone, but I see your point
[10:51] <ricotz> ok, make your choice then
[10:58] <anpok> hi
[10:58] <anpok> havent seen robert_ancell in a while
[10:59] <anpok> (especially since I try to follow natural day night cycles.. recently)
[10:59] <anpok> could someone else look into updatint libinput: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinput/+bug/1504168
[11:01] <Laney> are those patches committed?
[11:03] <larsu> hello from xenial
[11:04] <anpok> Laney: the last one was reviewed and approved but relies on the two before..
[11:05] <anpok> the last iteration only had a problem in an edge case and two findings in the debug tools
[11:05] <anpok> last one .. as in third patch in the list..
[11:11] <anpok> Laney: we already carry previous versions of that patch series..
[11:11] <anpok> I am also ok with first using v7 which was seen by more eyes than v8
[11:16] <larsu> Trevinho: I can't build your branch :(
[11:17] <larsu> Trevinho: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13090807/
[11:17] <larsu> looks unrelated, but I really don
[11:17] <larsu> *don't care for tracking down boost problems :/
[11:19] <Trevinho> larsu: ah, yeah... on xenial...
[11:19] <Trevinho> larsu: try to merge with xenial proposed branch?
[11:19] <larsu> where is that?
[11:19] <Trevinho> larsu: or comment that line in launchercontroller, it's not that important
[11:19] <larsu> lol
[11:19] <Trevinho> lp:~ci-train-bot/unity/unity-ubuntu-xenial-landing-011
[11:20] <larsu> thanks - let's try this
[11:29] <larsu> Trevinho: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13090856/
[11:31] <Trevinho> larsu: ouch, yeah... you need new bamf then
[11:31] <Trevinho> larsu: it's just better to comment that line in LaucnherCOntroller
[11:31] <Trevinho> or replace it with the fixed one.... (which I can paste if youn want)
[11:32] * larsu wonders how this can even happen
[11:33] <larsu> Trevinho: commenting line 153 is enough?
[11:33] <Trevinho> yes...
[11:33] <Trevinho> larsu: it happens because in xenial libsigc++ changed, and they removed some stuff as now they can be done with c++11
[11:34] <larsu> Trevinho: they are not backwards compatible? Hm, I guess that's ok... I changed my entire OS to the next version after all
[11:35] * Trevinho now has a new shiny and cheap chinese smart plug... With openwrt. My office lights will be finally in sync with my PC :)
[11:35] <Trevinho> larsu: no, they're not
[11:37] <Trevinho> larsu: they removed some classes such as sigc::group and the sigc::_N ... which were used to do computations on the fly (specifying how to handle arguments when connecting the callback)
[11:41] <larsu> Trevinho: bah! Now it fails because of -Werror and a signed/unsigned comparison
[11:42] <larsu> in a nux header no less
[11:42] <larsu> SIGH
[11:42] <Trevinho> larsu: fuck that compiler !
[11:42] <Trevinho> :P
[11:42] <Trevinho> That's weird though, we didn't get that in the ppa
[11:43] <larsu> in NuxCore/PropertyOperators.h:191
[11:43] <Trevinho> larsu: it's too early to use xenial :P, I just use an lxc for now :)
[11:43] <Trevinho> larsu: mh I believe that's not where the issue is, but where the property is used
[11:43] <larsu> that's what the error line says
[11:43] <larsu> let me check
[11:43] <Trevinho> larsu: look in the log, I guess it's inside switcher model maybe?
[11:44] <happyaron> Laney: anything I can do for my PPU application?
[11:45] <Laney> happyaron: just wait, shouldn't be too long
[11:45] <happyaron> ok
[11:45] <larsu> Trevinho: yes through the SwitcherModel, but only because it includes Nux' Property.h indirectly
[11:46] <Trevinho> Laney: silo should be ready now
[11:46] <Trevinho> larsu: I guess it's using a call somehwere, you can or change the 0 comparisons with
[11:46] <Trevinho> 0U
[11:47] <Trevinho> or... change detail_selection_index to detail_selection_index()
[11:47] <larsu> in the system header?
[11:47] <Trevinho> larsu: can you paste me the whole error?
[11:47] <Trevinho> cause it seems something else to what I though
[11:47] <larsu> yes, it is something else than what you think :)
[11:47] <larsu> already scrolled passed, sorry
[11:48] <Trevinho> cause yesterday I got this inside CI, but I fixed in that way
[11:48] <larsu> building again without -Werror
[11:48] <Trevinho> yeah, that's fine
[11:48] <larsu> I hope ... just removed it from CMakeLists.txt
[11:54] <willcooke> didrocks, Heard back from Cadsoft about Eagle. They are +1 in principal, just need to get the legal stuff sorted
[12:04] * desrt yawns
[12:05] <larsu> morning desrt
[12:05] <desrt> good morning
[12:05] * desrt will be out for a couple of hours walking around before starting work this morning :)
[12:05] <larsu> adjusting to the timezone?
[12:05] <didrocks> willcooke: nice! :)
[12:05] <desrt> yup
[12:06] <larsu> enjoy!
[12:07] <didrocks> desrt: break some nice portals ;)
[12:07] <desrt> didrocks: we're heading for a part of town that is such a massive res f8 that it's ridiculous
[12:07] <desrt> must be 100 p8 out here
[12:08] <didrocks> enjoy ;)
[12:08] <larsu> Trevinho: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13091016/
[12:08] <larsu> Trevinho: I think I will stop this now.
[12:08] <desrt> didrocks: thanks :)
[12:10] * larsu is off for lunch
[12:11] <Trevinho> larsu: yeah, that's fine... Also because hikiko just shown me something that we could use instead of this workaround
[12:11] <Trevinho> so... let's see how that goes
[12:11] <Trevinho> We'd still need to add an atom to gtk windows for being able to recognize them, but not the radius
[12:11] <larsu> oh ok
[12:12] <larsu> off to lunch now - let me know when you have asomething I can try
[12:14] <Laney> Trevinho: done
[12:15] <Trevinho> Laney: ❤️
[12:16] <Laney> ARGH
[12:16] <Laney> Trevinho: 2015-11-03 12:15:42,070 ERROR Needs review: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/add-launcher-icon-to-dash/+merge/275968
[12:16] <Laney> 2015-11-03 12:15:42,070 ERROR unity has merges in bad states
[12:16] <Laney> soz
[12:20] <Trevinho> Laney: ohuch, yeah andyrock forgot to top-approve..
[12:20] <Trevinho> I did it myself
[12:22] <Laney> ok, ty
[12:24] <pitti> Good morning
[12:29] <didrocks> hey pitti!
[12:32] <Laney> hey pitti
[12:32] <Laney> how's austin?
[12:33] <seb128> hey pitti
[12:35] <pitti> still dark -- woke up at 5:30 again :)
[12:37] <Laney> poor roommate :P
[12:38] <pitti> it's actually not even existant yet -- thick fog, can't see a thing :)
[12:38] * pitti wanted to go running this morning, meh
[12:38] <pitti> Laney: nah, barry just woke up, he was fine
[13:00] <didrocks> ok, going to run for the first time after last week being sick, wish me luck!
[13:01] <willcooke> good luck didrocks
[13:01] <didrocks> thanks willcooke ;)
[13:04] <seb128> didrocks, good luck!
[13:07] <seb128> Laney, I guess you saw https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/gtk/refresh-mir-3/+merge/276420?
[13:07] <seb128> pitti, is looking at the apport autopkgtest issue still on your todolist?
[13:07] <Laney> yeah it made me want a cookie
[13:12] <seb128> Laney, :-)
[13:12] <Laney> probably want to clear the way before uploading this though
[13:12] <Laney> found this upstream bug for the ld thing https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19188
[13:12] <seb128> right
[13:13] <seb128> hum
[13:13] <seb128> wonder if doko knows of a workaround we could use meanwhile
[13:30] <pitti> seb128: yes, it is, but probably not this week
[13:30] <seb128> pitti, ok, can we easily override those to not block things meanwhile?
[13:37] <hikiko|ln> Trevinho, also: https://transfer.sh/VEOwY/out-14.ogv I think we can catch all shapes :)
[13:37] <hikiko|ln> bbl
[13:38] <hikiko|ln> (that's 2 multi-rectangle shapes)
[14:00] <willcooke> UOS keynote starting: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22614/mark-shuttleworth-uos-opening-keynote/
[14:18] <pitti> seb128: sure, I force-badtested it last week already, aport doesn't block anything
[14:18] <seb128> pitti, oh, right, it's written at the bottom of the section
[14:20] <qengho> good morning
[14:22] <seb128> hey qengho
[14:30] <desrt> qengho: good morning
[14:34] <larsu> desrt: honestly, I don't know what smvcs point is on the no-reply-expected bugs
[14:34] * desrt takes another look
[14:34] <larsu> thanks
[14:44] <larsu> Laney, seb128: I also can't reproduce changing text size in a11y settings
[14:44] <larsu> or do you mean that an existing bubble doesn't get updated immediately?
[14:45] <seb128> larsu, what I do is
[14:45] <larsu> (sorry, this is about bug #1303796)
[14:45] <seb128> - mouseover the indicator sound, see small bubble
[14:45] <seb128> - go to the a11y panel, turn on a11y big text
[14:46] <seb128> - scroll over the indicator
[14:46] <seb128> - turn those off
[14:46] <seb128> - scroll again
[14:46] <seb128> after that the bubble are bigger than when I started
[14:49] <seb128> those->big text
[14:49] <seb128> but basically same with notify-send "bug"
[14:49] <seb128> you just need to wait for bubbles to timeout between steps
[14:49] <seb128> also the first bubble after enabling a11y doesn't have big text
[14:49] <seb128> but it get it after turning the option off?!
[14:50] <seb128> larsu, ^ let me know if you see that
[14:56] <larsu> seb128: no, I'm not ...
[14:56] <seb128> :-(
[14:56] <larsu> let me check with the immediate bubbles
[14:57] <seb128> are you bubbles getting bigger text at some point?
[14:57] <larsu> yes, when I enable large text
[14:58] <larsu> but they're back to normal once I change back
[14:58] <larsu> same for volume / brightness
[14:58] <larsu> (oh, wrong icon for volume now?!)
[15:02] <larsu> seb128: I take it all back, I see it with the volume bubble as well
[15:03] <Laney> larsu: they got stuck in big mode
[15:03] <larsu> apparently that switch sets more settings than text-scaling-factor (I changed that from gsettings)
[15:03] <Laney> and when I killed notify-osd it went back to normal
[15:03] <Laney> but yesterday I couldn't make it happen
[15:03] <seb128> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Interface text-scale-factor 1.3
[15:03] <seb128> I get it sometime with that
[15:03] <Laney> I only ever used the slider
[15:04] * Laney can't remember all the scaling factor knobs
[15:04] <seb128> but it doesn't seem consistent
[15:04] <larsu> seb128: I used the gnome one - why do we have both?
[15:06] <seb128> because unity tries to be smart and adjust the different gnome scaling according to its scaling
[15:06] <larsu> ugh, really?
[15:06] * larsu bets this is the problem
[15:06] <seb128> could be
[15:08] <seb128> Laney, pitti, can you tell britney that gvfs tests are fine now, it seems to not pick the updated status (e.g on gtk+3.0)
[15:08] <seb128> also is the libreoffice i386 "test in progress" buggy?
[15:08] <pitti> yes
[15:08] <seb128> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/xenial/i386/ states tmpfailed
[15:08] <pitti> looking at that stuff, there were some tmpfails again
[15:09] <seb128> danke
[15:09] <Laney> pitti: do you know why things get stuck on "in progress"?
[15:09] <pitti> Laney: ^ FYI, for mass-retrying the tmpfails correctly it's easiest to just remove proposed-migration/data/xenial-proposed/autopkgtest/pending.txt (while britney is not running)
[15:10] <Laney> is it always tmpfail?
[15:10] <pitti> Laney: tmpfail or in the queue or running, yes
[15:10] <pitti> Laney: but we had another case last night on cuneiform
[15:10] <Laney> when they're *stuck*
[15:10] <Laney> the latter two will clear
[15:10] <pitti> it ran the wrong version as tests weren't using apt sources for restricted/multiverse -proposed
[15:10] <pitti> I just fixed that
[15:10] <pitti> and re-ran cuneiform
[15:11] <Laney> ah
[15:12] <Laney> is there a bug that a new gvfs triggered by gtk+3.0 wasn't queued?
[15:12] <Laney> pitti: ^?
[15:12] <pitti> so that was another reason -- it was expecting results for build4, but got build3
[15:13] <pitti> and I just removed pending.txt to re-run the tmpfails, should be all fine again
[15:13] <seb128> is there anything one can do to sort those issues?
[15:13] <pitti> Laney: how do you mean not triggered? it regressed
[15:13] <pitti> so it needs to be re-run
[15:13] <seb128> out of pinging around
[15:13] <Laney> seb128 uploaded gvfs
[15:13] <Laney> which fixed the tests
[15:14] <pitti> ah, but that didn't re-run it against gtk+3.0, right
[15:14] <Laney> so gtk's gvfs test should go green
[15:14] * Laney nods
[15:15] <Sweet5hark> ahhh, nice. an "it only breaks on the builder breaker" ...
[15:20] <pitti> ubuntu_archive:x:2552:cjwatson,seb128,doko,pitti,adconrad,vorlon,didrocks,stgraber,laney
[15:20] <pitti> seb128: ^ yes, there is
[15:21] <seb128> pitti, I tried to run run-autopkgtest on snakefruit but that didn't seem to be enough
[15:21] <seb128> or maybe I did something wrong
[15:23] <pitti> seb128: these folks can re-run tests individually (run-autopkgtest), mass-re-run regressions (retry-autopkgtest-regressions), mass re-run tmpfails (rm pending.txt)
[15:23] * pitti documents the latter on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure#Administration
[15:23] <seb128> pitti, k
[15:24] <Laney> did someone retry the gvfs/gtk?
[15:25] * Laney tries a matplotlib fix
[15:25] <pitti> Laney: sorted
[15:25] <Laney> thanks
[15:25] <Laney> (in what way?)
[15:25] <pitti> I documented the current tmpfail rerun procedure now
[15:25] * pitti bbl
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Weekly Desktop Team Meeting - 2015-11-03
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 3 15:30:03 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:30] <willcooke> Got a UOS session starting in 30 mins so need to be quick today
[15:30] <desrt> o/
[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call:
[15:30] <larsu> \o
[15:30] <willcooke> andyrock (out), attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong,
[15:30] <willcooke> happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out),
[15:30] <willcooke> tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[15:30] <hikiko> hello
[15:30] <seb128> hey!
[15:30] <larsu> ah, too quick :)
[15:30] <Sweet5hark> heya
[15:30] <attente> hey
[15:30] <qengho> Oh dang.
[15:31] <didrocks> hey
[15:31] <willcooke> #topic AndrewMC
[15:31] <willcooke> oops
[15:31] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:31] <willcooke> * investigating on lockscreen regression reported by Pat. I built a PPA with a possibile fix but Looks like it does not work. I ll need to build another PPA adding debug strings and ask Pat to send us the logs.
[15:31] <willcooke> * Treviño's reviews
[15:31] <willcooke> sorry AndrewMC - ignore
[15:31] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:31] * willcooke needs to slow down on the auto-complete
[15:31] <attente> fixed touch input with gtk-mir on the phone, still need to hash out a "single-surface mode" for gtk to actually be usable on the phone
[15:31] <attente> fought with qmake to add gdbus bindings to maliit-framework upstream
[15:31] <attente> porting maliit-inputcontext-gtk from dbus-glib to gdbus, will package it once done. or might give up and just package it as is anyways
[15:31] <attente> followed up with security team about dconf apparmor confinement, they're probably too busy for it this cycle
[15:31] <attente> (eof)
[15:31] <larsu> vi
[15:32] <larsu> (sorry)
[15:32] <willcooke> thanks attente!
[15:32] <attente> ls
[15:32] <desrt> attente: thanks for poking about the apparmor stuff again
[15:32] <desrt> cd
[15:32] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:32] <desrt> let's just say "bugs" and move on
[15:32] <desrt> (in the interest of speedy meeting)
[15:33] <willcooke> right so
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:33] <dgadomski> hey
[15:33] <dgadomski> * testing fix for bug #1510824 - waiting for feedback to confirm it's working
[15:33] <dgadomski> * investigating a problem with large number of defunct processes from a respawning daemon (may be related to bug #406397, bug #530779), trying to reproduce it
[15:33] <dgadomski> * got positive feedback from independent sources about the fix to bug #1337873, waiting for SRU
[15:33] <dgadomski> * I think polkit debugging is not documented well enough (setting POLKIT_DEBUG, G_DEBUG_MESSAGES for polkitd and polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1, do you have an idea what would be the best place to have it documented
[15:35] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:35] <dgadomski> thanks
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic didrocks
[15:35] <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:
[15:35] <didrocks> - a lot of PR reviews and tutoring (netbeans, rust). Another new contributor is on the pipe with CLion support!
[15:35] <didrocks> - merged 2 external contributors pull requests (better env variable for android NDK, better user prompting for restarting shell session).
[15:35] <didrocks> - medium tests now run in our jenkins infra! Did a lot of work/testing roundtrips to enable this both on master and system versions (had to change some stuff so that system version can run in the container with a real file system layout): https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/udtc-trusty-tests/2192/testReport/. Now at 828 tests running \o/
[15:35] <didrocks> - add --remove as a global option in addition to a framework one (so umake --remove <category> <framework> works as well as umake <category> <framework> --remove).
[15:35] <didrocks> - add --version support returning current ubuntu make version (different versioning scheme if released, if from branch, if from branch + dirty content, if from branch without git installed…) + backed by tests.
[15:35] <didrocks> - ensure decompressor and download manager handle both well multiple decompressions/downloads in parallel with the BaseInstaller framework (will be used for Twine). Add more unit and large tests to cover those cases as well.
[15:35] <didrocks> - enable as well direct asset download filtering in BaseInstaller without decompressing (same, will be used for Twine).
[15:35] <didrocks> - enable for medium test framework to serve the fake assets on multiple ports and hostnames inside the containers. Adapt tests framework to this new API.
[15:35] <didrocks> - misc smaller fixes like more robust medium tests execution, parallel download progress total size reconciliation, zsh env variable removal, variable refactoring… + back them up with tests of course.
[15:35] <didrocks> - bugs/feature requests/user questions handling.
[15:35] <didrocks> Misc:
[15:35] <didrocks> - some NEWing and AA duties.
[15:35] <didrocks> .
[15:36] <willcooke> didrocks, thanks - whose are the Jenkins servers?
[15:36] <willcooke> who is admining them?
[15:36] <didrocks> willcooke: the CI team
[15:36] <willcooke> nice
[15:36] <willcooke> that's great
[15:36] <didrocks> however, I have admin rights on it
[15:36] <willcooke> :)
[15:36] <didrocks> and so, creating/handing my jobs
[15:37] <didrocks> (just not messing with their :p)
[15:37] <willcooke> nice, thanks for sorting that
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:38] <willcooke> 1. Released fix for a crash in sogoupinyin.
[15:38] <willcooke> 2. Following the cn.archive.ubuntu.com issue with Aliyun and NEU.
[15:38] <willcooke> 3. ZFS package improvements.
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
[15:38] <hikiko> hi! 1- shadows for shaped and multi-rect windows proof of concept lp:xgetshape and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYeFN0vOG_M 2- I am looking at the decorations code to do a similar trick inside unity 3- still searching the phantom-bugs that block the ezoom development :D (eof)
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks hikiko
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:39] <Laney> • Short week because I was on hols
[15:39] <Laney> • before that I went to the release sprint - helped test images, fix various bugs (mainly installer), and decide what we should let in and what not
[15:39] <Laney> • Fixed nautilus smb crash, SRUed it too
[15:39] <Laney> • Push at a big GNOME transition ball this week, some no-change rebuilds and some real fixes
[15:39] <Laney> • Fix/retry many autopkgtests to try to get things migrating (gtk, glib, the previous transition)
[15:39] <Laney> • shepherding some train things
[15:39] <Laney> • worked a bit on gtk 3.18, in the desktop ppa, please test (soon to be uploaded to X)
[15:39] <Laney> • chats about font
[15:39] <Laney> ☙
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:40] <larsu> more bug fixes this week:
[15:40] <larsu> - nautilus desktop rendering hidpi problems
[15:40] <larsu> - gsettings-qt needed yet another workaround for that qt eventloop bug
[15:40] <larsu> - accountsservice log spam: got a glib patch, but there's some discussion about whether we should change the dbus spec as well (thanks desrt for helping out)
[15:40] <larsu> - finished up and pushed that patch that makes glib not crash when using gactiongroup from python (after code review)
[15:40] <larsu> - in progress: notify-osd bubbles stay large after toggling large-text back and forth
[15:40] <larsu> I think that's it... I can never remember everything when doing bug work
[15:40] <willcooke> :)
[15:40] <willcooke> thanks larsu
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:41] <qengho> - some mir-ozone-chromium catch up.
[15:41] <qengho> - more translations work. the GRD+XTB<-->POT+PO pump had more missing features than I remembered.
[15:41] <qengho> - default-browser bug still needs testing on xfce, kde, etc. My upstream bug fix still not merged. :(
[15:41] <qengho> EOF
[15:41] <willcooke> thanks qengho
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:41] <seb128> • backported gtk fixed for nautilus segfault issue and gnome-screenshot quality issues on hidpi
[15:41] <seb128> • helped larsu to test nautilus hidpi/scaling fixes
[15:41] <seb128> • lot of Debian merges and updates
[15:41] <seb128> • worked on some of the ongoing xenial transitions (e-d-s, cheese, libgtop, libgnomecanvasmm, poppler)
[15:41] <seb128> • reviewed incoming bugs and e.u.c report to ensure we don't have big issues in wily
[15:41] <seb128> • test gtk 3.18 candidate update, seems mostly working fine (though one annoying issue with bg color on loading)
[15:41] <larsu> seb128: thanks again for that :)
[15:41] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:41] <larsu> (and being patient)
[15:42] <seb128> larsu, yw, thanks for the fixes!
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - updated to 5.0.3 wily in the ppa
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - updated to 4.4.6 vivid in the ppa
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - some upstream work on clang service name matching
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - added scrollwheel navigation to TabBar of LibreOffice Sidebar upstream
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - some upstream code review
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - helped getting libreoffice git repos live mirrored on launchpad via gerrit replication
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - created git repo for libreoffice packaging on launchpad
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - updating libreoffice vanilla/minimal as a base for snap/click to 5.0.3 (ongoing)
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> -- there seems to be a race condition on parallel builds :-/
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - various coordination on UX wrt. sidebar and themes
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> - some review of replies to ongoing tenders/job offers by TDF
[15:42] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:42] <willcooke> * Almost completed Orca gsettings backend work, found a few issues due to me not reading deeply enough into how Orca handles some internal settings, hoefully will have something by the end of the week.
[15:42] <willcooke> * Uploaded PulseAudio 7.1 to Xenial.
[15:42] <willcooke> * Further mapping out of the accessibility profile code/API.
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[15:43] <willcooke> - cups-filters: Released 1.1.0 which allows to define default option settings for new cups-browsed-generated print queues in cups-browsed.conf, cups-browsed remembering option setting changes when a remote printer disappears and re-appears, IP-based URIs for generated queues (for the phone), configurable load balancing, and bug fixes in cups-browsed and foomatic-rip.
[15:43] <willcooke> - pysmbc: Replaced former python-smbc source package by Debian's pysmbc package so that we can sync from Debian here.
[15:43] <willcooke> - cups-filters: Started studying viability of a rastertoxps filter to support XPS-only printers.
[15:43] <willcooke> - Reported bug (bug 1509423) about the problem of cupsd not being able to start its sub-processes, no answer after one week.
[15:43] <willcooke> - Bugs.
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:44] <seb128> Sweet5hark, should we get 5.0.3 in xenial?
[15:44] <FJKong> willcooke: ping
[15:44] <FJKong> sorry late
[15:44] <willcooke> nw FJKong - will come back to you in a mo
[15:44] <Sweet5hark> seb128: I wouldnt bother TBH.
[15:45] <seb128> k
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:45] <willcooke> - Xenial package updates
[15:45] <willcooke> - Packge syncs with Debian
[15:45] <willcooke> - LightDM bugfixes
[15:45] <willcooke> - LightDM 1.17.1, 1.6.5, 1.14.3 releases
[15:45] <willcooke> - LightDM stable release updates
[15:45] <willcooke> - XMir testing / package updating
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:46] <FJKong> Sogou IM
[15:46] <FJKong> * check with new bug of skin problem, not produce yet
[15:46] <FJKong> * continue on new feature of animate skin
[15:46] <FJKong> pinyin search:
[15:46] <FJKong> find some GUI tool to add task, make it more easy
[15:46] <FJKong> that's all
[15:46] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic Any Other Business
[15:46] <willcooke> Obviously, UOS this week
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> seb128: there is already an 5.1.0~alpha1 tagged upstream. Having that for xenial in the prereleases ppa would be priority before any 5.0/xenial updates. Dint have that yet.
[15:47] <willcooke> Other news: Have started the ball rolling on a sprint in April
[15:47] <Sweet5hark> \o/
[15:47] <willcooke> Back to UOS news:
[15:47] <willcooke> In 13 mins there is a QA session for desktop
[15:47] <willcooke> If you want to get involved in that session please come along
[15:48] <didrocks> time to ask embarassing questions on IRC to willcooke then :)
[15:48] <willcooke> :)
[15:48] <willcooke> Also check the schedule for other desktop sessions this week
[15:48] <willcooke> Anyone got anything else? If not I will go and finish getting the Hangout set up
[15:49] <didrocks> nothing for me
[15:49] <willcooke> Hopefully next week will be back to "normal"
[15:49] <Sweet5hark> didrocks: "Why are my libreoffice icons so ugly when directly installing from ISO?"
[15:49] <didrocks> oh yeah!
[15:49] <Trevinho> willcooke: I missed my topic sorry...
[15:49] <didrocks> and why my buttons are going on the right in the installer mode, is it the new default? :p
[15:49] <Trevinho> willcooke: can I paste it now?
[15:49] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:49] * Sweet5hark hides in a corner and cries.
[15:49] <willcooke> Trevinho, go go go!
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Renamed rls-w-incoming bugs to rls-x-incoming
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Added keybindings to unity to only open in spread the windows of the focused application.
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Add Quicklist item to desktop-less apps to add them to the dash (generating .desktop file, if possibile)
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Done a switcher model refactory so that it's dynamic (it updates promptly when an app/window opens/closes)
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Improved unity keyboard utils, so that it's possible to get key near to another in any position
[15:49] <Trevinho> · Added a new keybinding to the: Switcher Alt+key_right_to_Tab (Q for non French guys :P) now closes the selected app/window.
[15:49] <Trevinho> · The \"landing-011\" saga is over. The whole new unity7 stack is in xenial.
[15:49] <Trevinho>
[15:49] <willcooke> :)
[15:49] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[15:50] <Trevinho> yw
[15:50] <willcooke> oki, ending the meeting, thanks everyone for being quick
[15:50] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 3 15:50:26 2015 UTC.
[15:50] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-11-03-15.30.moin.txt
[15:50] <tkamppeter> willcooke, only for putting the right date for the Sprint, next years OpenPrinting Summit is April 26 - 28 in Boise, Idaho at HP.
[15:51] <willcooke> tkamppeter, oki will bear that in mind
[15:51] <tkamppeter> willcooke, Only to avoid a clash of the dates.
[15:51] <qengho> hrm, four people in the UOS convergence channel that I don't know.
[15:52] <qengho> Sprint in Boise!
[15:52] * qengho jokes.
[15:52] <seb128> Trevinho, andyrock, so my compiz/unity is eating 100% cpu for some hours now, unsure if I can get useful details
[15:54] <seb128> I think that's an issue
[15:54] <seb128> #2 0xb757d1b6 in std::__atomic_futex_unsigned_base::_M_futex_wait_until(unsigned int*, unsigned int, bool, std::chrono::duration<long long, std::ratio<1ll, 1ll> >, std::chrono::duration<long long, std::ratio<1ll, 1000000000ll> >) () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
[15:54] <seb128> #3 0xaf9d104f in unity::lockscreen::UserAuthenticatorPam::ConversationFunction(int, pam_message const**, pam_response**, void*) () from /usr/lib/compiz/libunityshell.so
[15:54] <seb128> #4 0xae8eb243 in pam_vprompt () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpam.so.0
[15:54] <seb128> my session is unlocked
[15:54] <seb128> unsure why a thread is in pam code
[15:59] <qengho> seb128: Long long ago, I saw a PAM-related problem that involved some DNS failure in logging, which ate CPU time.
[16:04] <seb128> qengho, yeah, unsure what it was, first time I see that issue
[16:05] <seb128> I killed compiz and it respawned and now it's fine
[16:09] <Laney> pitti: do you know why gvfs/ppc64el didn't go green?
[16:09] <pitti> Laney: apparently I missed the retry
[16:10] <Laney> pitti: I don't see a retry
[16:10] <Laney> for the other arches - so thought you did something else
[16:11] <pitti> hrmpf VPN, it's driving me nuts
[16:12] <Laney> I can do a retry if that's all
[16:12] <Laney> it just looked like other magic
[16:12] <Laney> e.g. http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/gvfs/xenial/i386/ has no run for glib
[16:12] <pitti> yes, please do
[16:12] <Laney> yet it went green
[16:12] <pitti> Laney: ah, I think for glib I just updated the flag in results.cache
[16:12] <Laney> ha
[16:13] <pitti> but proper retries are cleaner
[16:13] <pitti> and we need to get used to them anyway
[16:13] <pitti> as soon enough it really matters
[16:13] <Laney> oh you can have multiple triggers
[16:14] <pitti> *nod* (still)
[16:14] * pitti runs "retry-autopkgtest-regressions |grep gvfs"
[16:14] <Laney> did it
[16:14] <pitti> ah, good, thanks
[16:14] <Laney> exactly that
[16:14] <Laney> laney@nightingale> retry-autopkgtest-regressions | grep gvfs ~/temp
[16:14] <pitti> snakefruit feels like tar ATM
[16:14] <Laney> run-autopkgtest -s xenial -a ppc64el --trigger=glib2.0/2.46.1-2 --trigger=gtk+3.0/3.16.7-0ubuntu5 --trigger=libmtp/1.1.10-2 gvfs
[16:14] <Laney> laney@nightingale> run-autopkgtest -s xenial -a ppc64el --trigger=glib2.0/2.46.1-2 --trigger=gtk+3.0/3.16.7-0ubuntu5 --trigger=libmtp/1.1.10-2 gvfs ~/temp
[16:15] <Laney> laney@nightingale> ~/temp
[16:15] <Laney> :)
[16:15] <Laney> pitti: do you have/want a bug for these tests not being triggered?
[16:15] <pitti> Laney: re-triggered on failure you mean? yeah, we should add some heuristics for that
[16:16] <Laney> this case is for the new upload
[16:16] <Laney> you'll want to re-run tests for all the waiting packages, I figure
[16:16] * Laney files it
[16:17] <pitti> so if trigger foo causes a regression in package bar, and then package bar gets uploaded, britney should re-run bar for foo too
[16:17] <Laney> yes, that
[16:17] <pitti> (but not the other way around, i. e. pass-> fail)
[16:53] <seb128> charles, hey, could you have a look to bug #1512798? it seems a regression from one of your changes prevous cycle
[17:16] <seb128> yeah, gtk update went through ;-)
[17:17] <Laney> omg
[17:17] <Laney> matplotlib is still failing
[17:18] <seb128> :-(
[17:19] <Laney> oh wait
[17:19] <Laney> it got the old version
[17:22] <didrocks> nice, the download section of arduino is down
[17:23] <didrocks> I wonder if I should warn them (got it from ubuntu make tests :p)
[17:23] <Laney> look at the hint for $gnome_stuff
[17:23] <Laney> it's really just epiphany now
[17:25] <willcooke> didrocks, :)
[17:58] <charles> seb128, let me run it by xavigarcia first since he's been putting a lot of work into indicator-sound this last month
[17:58] <charles> seb128, if he doesn't want to pick it up I'll assign it to myself
[17:58] <seb128> charles, thanks
[17:59] <didrocks> ok, time to go, have a good evening guys!
[18:01] <larsu> I would say "enjoy didrocks", but as usual, he's already gone
[18:02] <seb128> yeah, I managed to tell him "good w.e" before he left on friday, I was quite happy about it, it's not every week ;-)
[18:02] <Laney> I bet the lid is already 90% closed by the time he hits enter anyway
[18:03] <Laney> ooooooooooooh it's climbing tiiiiiimeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[18:03] <Laney> SLASH QUIT BYE
[18:04] * Laney didn't really go yet
[18:04] <larsu> Laney: enjoy!
[18:04] <Laney> ...guysssssssss
[18:04] <Laney> phew
[18:04] <Laney> happy evening larsu seb128 willcooke pitti charles
[18:04] <Laney> aka "people who have text that I can see on my screen"
[18:04] <charles> :)
[18:05] <willcooke> cheers Laney
[18:05] <pitti> Laney: good night!
[18:07] <seb128> Laney, thanks, you too!
[21:11] <willcooke> right, quittin time
[21:11] <willcooke> g'ngiht
[21:51] <prasad_> Hi
[21:55] <prasad_> I'm a software developer, and willing to contribute for bug fixes
[21:55] <prasad_> Obviously I don't know how it's managed
[21:56] <prasad_> I've eye on bug#1154364,
[21:58] <TheMuso> bug 1154364
[21:58] <prasad_> yes
[21:58] <prasad_> Has anybody started working on it?
[21:58] <sarnold> I wonder if the #ubuntu-unity channel may know better what needs to be done
[22:00] <prasad_> Oh, I came here, following Will's suggestion(http://www.whizzy.org/2015/09/big-bug-bonanza-16-04-lts/). I'll check there.
[22:00] <sarnold> ah :)
[22:01] <prasad_> thanks !!!
[22:02] <TheMuso> Its worth noting that its the end of the day for EU folks, and I think most unity devs are in the EU.
[22:03] <prasad_> Yes
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[07:32] <flocculant> #info gmb currently disabled from testing re known bug
[07:32] <flocculant> #info call for first priority tests went out
[07:32] <flocculant> #info had 6 new people arrive at Xubuntu testers since cycle start
[07:32] <flocculant> #info had someone (akxwi-dave) join Xubuntu QA
[07:32] <flocculant> #info testcases all gone through 1 check, some new changes landed
[07:32] <flocculant> #info looking at adding QA 'stuff' to the new contributor docs
[07:32] <flocculant> #info QA trello set up so testers can see what's happening
[07:32] <flocculant> #info QA trello has a 'Disabled Tests' card there for information
[07:32] <flocculant> ochosi: in here is simpler :)
[07:33] <Unit193> \o/
[07:33] <Unit193> I expired, because not really a QA'er. :(
[07:35] <flocculant> I saw you expiring
[07:38] <Unit193> I'd like to enjoy this moment where I don't have to compile everything 4 times, but it'll be over soon enough. Is there a page that lists the exact purpose of Xubuntu Bugs team?
[07:39] <flocculant> doubt it
[07:39] <flocculant> why would it be any different than anyother LP team :p
[07:39] <Unit193> Dang, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin should likely have them but should https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar-dropbox-plugin or another package that's seeded by us?
[07:51] <flocculant> likely them what?
[07:55] <Unit193> Xubuntu Bugs subscribed, like xfwm4 does.
[07:57] <flocculant> oh right
[07:57] <flocculant> not sure that team does anything but ping people about bugs - which I guess it what it should do
[10:10] <akxwi_dave> test
[10:14] <akxwi_dave> test
[10:15] <akxwi_dave> bugger, ignore these keep.. keep losing window focus.. :-)
[10:45] <knome> :D
[10:51] <bluesabre> morning all
[10:51] <akxwi_dave> morning
[10:54] <Nairwolf> morning ;)
[10:54] <ochosi> morning everyone
[10:54] <ochosi> well, "morning"
[10:55] <knome> well i woke up about an hour ago...
[10:55] <knome> :P
[10:55] <ochosi> lucky you, my day is already 6 hrs old
[10:56] <knome> yeah
[10:56] <knome> after the meeting i will eat lunch and do something fun with my wife
[10:56] <ochosi> no specifics on the latter please!
[10:56] * knome puts some more salt on the wounds
[10:56] <knome> ochosi, you sure?
[10:56] <knome> :P
[10:57] <bluesabre> I initially read that as "and do something with my life"
[10:57] <akxwi_dave> lol snap
[10:57] <knome> bluesabre, that too...
[10:57] <bluesabre> :D
[10:58] <knome> i mean, i still have a life, contrary to simon
[10:58] <bluesabre> its early and everything is not as it seems
[10:58] * knome gets mroe salt
[10:58] <bluesabre> but I am here for the gnome meeting
[10:58] <bluesabre> :p
[10:58] * knome pours salt on simon's wounds
[10:59] <bluesabre> too bad ochosi is a snail
[10:59] <bluesabre> poor guy
[10:59] <knome> ^ and the cherry on the cake
[10:59] <knome> after all this, a wild krytarik appears
[10:59] <krytarik> \o/
[10:59] <knome> it must be the worst day of simon's life
[10:59] <knome> :D
[11:00] <ochosi> !team | hey everyone, it's meeting time!
[11:00] <ochosi> #startmeeting
[11:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 3 11:00:28 2015 UTC. The chair is ochosi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[11:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[11:00] <knome> o/
[11:00] <krytarik> o/
[11:00] <bluesabre> woo!
[11:00] <ochosi> o/ :)
[11:01] <ochosi> #topic Open action items
[11:01] <ochosi> i don't see any open action items
[11:01] <knome> yep, rc has gone
[11:02] <ochosi> all the others seem done too
[11:02] <ochosi> k, let's move along then...
[11:02] * slickymasterWork is sort of here
[11:02] <knome> well,
[11:02] <knome> xubuntu-team to decide on default media player prior to alpha 2 in order to deal with usability and accessibility concerns
[11:02] <bluesabre> hi slickymasterWork
[11:02] <slickymasterWork> a bit in and out
[11:02] <knome> but that's a work item
[11:02] <ochosi> knome: yeah, but that's in discussion
[11:02] <knome> ochosi, but it's an open action item :P
[11:02] <ochosi> i'd rather re-define the workitem there
[11:02] <ochosi> gah
[11:02] <bluesabre> :D
[11:03] <ochosi> the buraucrat strikes again...
[11:03] <knome> yes
[11:03] <ochosi> ;)
[11:03] * knome pours more salt
[11:03] <ochosi> #topic Updates and Announcements
[11:03] <ochosi> soo, since there are no team updates anymore, what's new everyone?
[11:03] <ochosi> i saw all the blueprints + tracker are set up for X, so we seem ready to go
[11:03] <knome> #info to see what people have worked on, check http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-timeline
[11:04] <ochosi> knome: i hope you'll post that every time we do a meeting :D
[11:04] <knome> i'll try
[11:04] <ochosi> anyone else any updates?
[11:04] <knome> i guess we should start building up the blueprints more
[11:04] <ochosi> yeah
[11:05] <knome> i'm sure there are still work items that we need to do but aren't listed
[11:05] <ochosi> still mostly skeletons
[11:05] <bluesabre> not much here, just really getting back into the swing of things
[11:05] <bluesabre> probably going to be working on thunar bugs initially
[11:06] <ochosi> mm nice
[11:06] <knome> work on bugs ++
[11:07] <knome> ochosi, did you get the #infos from flocculant ?
[11:08] <ochosi> right
[11:08] <ochosi> thanks for the reminder
[11:08] <ochosi> #info gmb currently disabled from testing re known bug (flocculant)
[11:09] <ochosi> #info call for first priority tests went out (flocculant)
[11:09] <ochosi> #info had 6 new people arrive at Xubuntu testers since cycle start (flocculant)
[11:09] <ochosi> #info had someone (akxwi-dave) join Xubuntu QA (flocculant)
[11:09] <ochosi> #info testcases all gone through 1 check, some new changes landed (flocculant)
[11:09] <ochosi> #info looking at adding QA 'stuff' to the new contributor docs (flocculant)
[11:09] <ochosi> #info QA trello set up so testers can see what's happening (flocculant)
[11:09] <ochosi> #info QA trello has a 'Disabled Tests' card there for information (flocculant)
[11:09] <ochosi> any other news or updates from your sides?
[11:09] <bluesabre> oh
[11:10] <bluesabre> nope
[11:10] <bluesabre> :D
[11:10] <knome> well as the tracker says, we set up the contributor docs process
[11:11] <ochosi> yeah, i guess there's no need to repeat what's already on the tracker
[11:11] <ochosi> so let's move along...
[11:11] <ochosi> #topic Discussion
[11:11] <knome> well, i thought it was important enough to note ;)
[11:11] <ochosi> #subtopic 16.04 Wallpaper contest?
[11:12] <ochosi> so, i generally second the idea (as I've already mentioned here when the idea was brought up, i think by dkessel)
[11:12] <knome> yep
[11:12] <ochosi> but i'm a bit doubtful of what the best way to do this is
[11:12] <knome> when dkessel brought this up, i expressed some of my concerns
[11:12] <knome> summarized:
[11:12] <ochosi> last time was - in all honesty - more a "search for nice pics online and get the authors to submit" than really rely on what gets submitted
[11:12] <knome> 1) who'll run the contest and do the work
[11:13] <knome> 2) quality of submissions (as pointed out by simon above)
[11:13] <knome> and i guess 3) licenses need to be checked and all that packaging work done too
[11:14] <bluesabre> I think we used the wiki for submissions last time, right?
[11:14] <knome> 1/3 are the "easier" ones to sort out
[11:14] <knome> bluesabre, yep
[11:14] <bluesabre> let's *not* do that this time :D
[11:14] <ochosi> i'd personally add 4) what's our strategy when there aren't any good submissions? (keep the old ones?)
[11:14] <knome> well
[11:14] <knome> ochosi, kind of related with 2), but yeah
[11:14] <bluesabre> ochosi: we can initially submit the old ones as part of the contest
[11:14] <ochosi> yeah
[11:14] <knome> re: platform for submissions
[11:15] <bluesabre> might even inspire folks to give us their best :D
[11:15] <knome> i would use something that either requires lno login
[11:15] <knome> or if it requires a login, something that accepts a LP login
[11:15] <ochosi> yeah, that was the main advantage of the wiki
[11:15] <ochosi> having the LP SSO
[11:15] <knome> bluesabre, not a bad idea
[11:16] <knome> bluesabre, though are we then really looking for *better* pics, or are "slightly worse" pics going to get a preference because they are "new" ?
[11:16] <ochosi> yeah +1
[11:16] <knome> because i'd prefer new pics over old ones
[11:17] <bluesabre> knome: well, it's whatever feels right. If we get a bunch of crap, we choose the old
[11:17] <knome> but i'm not sure if we can actually get "better" submissions at least for the whole bunch
[11:17] <knome> bluesabre, sure, but we need to be ready to give a rationale for this, and it would probably be a good idea to say it aloud before the contest begins
[11:18] <knome> bluesabre, so it's not a surprise to anybody, or that we can't be blamed for skewing the results
[11:18] <bluesabre> yup
[11:18] <knome> that's the part which takes likely the most work
[11:18] <knome> so i think next we'd need volunteers
[11:18] <ochosi> yup
[11:18] <ochosi> agreed
[11:18] <bluesabre> "You may notice a few familiar favorites in the competion. Our choice selects from the last contest are here to duke it out"
[11:21] <bluesabre> I was suggesting that I could potentially build a nice voting tool that compares each to the others and sorts based on +1s... wouldn't be terribly complex I'd imagine
[11:21] <knome> bluesabre, web interface?
[11:21] <bluesabre> yeah
[11:21] <knome> bluesabre, loggable to with LP?
[11:21] <knome> if you write it in PHP, i can help ;)
[11:22] <knome> anyway...
[11:22] <bluesabre> knome: I'll investigate
[11:22] <bluesabre> and yeah, php for sure
[11:22] <knome> #action knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest
[11:22] <meetingology> ACTION: knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest
[11:22] <ochosi> cool, thanks knome
[11:22] <knome> #action bluesabre to look into creating a submission/voting interface
[11:22] <meetingology> ACTION: bluesabre to look into creating a submission/voting interface
[11:22] <ochosi> if that ^ fails and we don't find a volunteer to drive this, i guess bluesabre won't have to investigate ;)
[11:22] <ochosi> oops, too late
[11:23] <knome> haha
[11:23] <knome> well actually
[11:23] <knome> #undo
[11:23] <knome> ochosi, ^ you need to do that, you're the chair...
[11:23] <ochosi> #chair knome, ochosi
[11:23] <meetingology> Current chairs: knome ochosi
[11:23] <ochosi> #undo
[11:23] <meetingology> Removing item from minutes: ACTION
[11:23] <knome> #action bluesabre to look into creating a submission/voting interface
[11:23] <meetingology> ACTION: bluesabre to look into creating a submission/voting interface
[11:23] <knome> eh?
[11:23] <knome> #undo
[11:23] <meetingology> Removing item from minutes: ACTION
[11:23] <knome> #action bluesabre to look into creating a submission/voting interface for the wallpaper contest
[11:23] <meetingology> ACTION: bluesabre to look into creating a submission/voting interface for the wallpaper contest
[11:23] <knome> that
[11:23] <bluesabre> lol
[11:23] <ochosi> ok, ready to move on?
[11:23] <knome> yep
[11:23] <bluesabre> yup
[11:24] <ochosi> #subtopic Media manager choice
[11:24] <ochosi> ok, this better be fun
[11:24] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/X/DefaultMediaManager
[11:24] <ochosi> yeah, i wonder whether there aren#t more options than A and B
[11:24] <bluesabre> there's few of us around, so we have that going for us this morning
[11:24] <knome> options C-> are really just "replace gmb with X"
[11:24] <ochosi> but yeah, i'm ok with only those two as well, makes things easier
[11:24] <knome> where X is a random media manager
[11:24] <ochosi> yeah, maybe we don't want that
[11:24] <ochosi> you're right i guess
[11:25] <knome> but personally, i would probably vote B atm
[11:25] <bluesabre> the thing that bites about gmb is that is developed in a completely different language than all of our other apps
[11:25] <ochosi> should we make this dependent on whether the gmb-crash-on-close bug gets resolved?
[11:25] <bluesabre> so I'm quite a bit less effective for bug review there
[11:25] <knome> ochosi, well that's one of the questions of
[11:26] <knome> +A
[11:26] <ochosi> i mean it's just something to keep in mind, it's pretty much a showstopper from my pov
[11:26] <knome> ochosi, i mean, option A might not be valid
[11:26] <knome> ochosi, even if the crash bug was fixed
[11:26] <knome> if people thought there are too many other problems with it
[11:26] <knome> or not enough documentation
[11:26] <ochosi> yeah
[11:26] <ochosi> anyhow, is there much to discuss now from your povs?
[11:27] <knome> since we want to resolve this issue ASAP...
[11:27] <knome> i would probably start by voting on whether we want to ship *any* media manager or not
[11:27] <knome> eg. option B or A/C->
[11:27] <Nairwolf> in which language is writtent gmb ?
[11:27] <knome> Nairwolf, perl
[11:27] <Nairwolf> argh..
[11:28] <knome> ochosi, what do you think?
[11:28] <bluesabre> a media manager is not so essential I feel
[11:28] <knome> well
[11:28] <knome> as i see it
[11:28] <knome> it's very essential for many people
[11:28] <bluesabre> since parole can still *play* everything, the functionality of xubuntu is not immediately degraded
[11:28] <knome> but it's so essential that we can't ever please everybody
[11:28] <knome> because the choice is very personal...
[11:29] <bluesabre> and if I wanted a media manager, I'd want it to manage videos as well
[11:29] <bluesabre> :D
[11:29] <knome> bluesabre, except some of my DVDs
[11:29] * knome hides
[11:29] * bluesabre cries
[11:30] <Nairwolf> sorry if my question is stupid, why not using vlc ? It seems to work much better than parole, and it can play videos and music.
[11:31] <ochosi> Nairwolf: that comes up time and time again
[11:31] <knome> Nairwolf, depends on qt
[11:31] <bluesabre> Nairwolf: vlc does not use GTK (instead uses QT) and brings in additional requirements for a single app
[11:31] <ochosi> the answer is always the same...
[11:31] <ochosi> yeah, i'm in favor of B too
[11:31] <knome> ochosi, third time's the charm... answer it!
[11:31] <bluesabre> go go go!
[11:32] <Nairwolf> sorry guys, I didn't know that
[11:32] <bluesabre> np
[11:32] <Nairwolf> most of xubuntu apps use GTK ?
[11:32] <knome> none of them use qt
[11:32] <knome> and yeah, *all* of them use gtk
[11:33] <ochosi> ok, it's qt
[11:33] <ochosi> that's the problem :)
[11:33] <knome> so maybe we should set up a poll for keeping a media manager or losing it
[11:33] <bluesabre> (though vlc is a fan favorite of many/many users)
[11:34] <knome> they can install it with the qt dependencies the first second after the installation has finished :)
[11:34] <ochosi> yeah, i guess a poll would be the right thing to do
[11:34] <knome> ochosi, since it's a huge thing for many, would you, as XPL, run that?
[11:35] <Nairwolf> Do you already have some feedbacks about the media player ?
[11:35] <akxwi_dave> Rythmbox and VC first thing installed for me on anew install
[11:35] <knome> Nairwolf, check the link i pasted above.
[11:35] <ochosi> #action ochosi to set up a poll for voting on option A) or B) from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/X/DefaultMediaManager
[11:35] <meetingology> ACTION: ochosi to set up a poll for voting on option A) or B) from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/X/DefaultMediaManager
[11:36] <ochosi> alright, ready to move on then?
[11:36] <ochosi> (don't wanna get into the actual discussion here and now
[11:36] <ochosi> )
[11:36] <knome> akxwi_dave, you mean rhythmbox and vlc? because i can't find rythmbox or vc from the repositories ;P
[11:36] <knome> ochosi, yep
[11:36] <bluesabre> knome: you troll
[11:36] <knome> :Ð
[11:36] <bluesabre> ochosi: let's go
[11:36] <ochosi> i always knew knome was not a gnome but a troll!
[11:36] <akxwi_dave> lol.. sorry bad typing :-)
[11:36] <ochosi> #topic Schedule next meeting
[11:37] <knome> who's in turn
[11:37] <bluesabre> ochosi draws a name out of his fancy top hat
[11:38] <ochosi> meh, can't login on LP now
[11:38] <ochosi> can someone else check the meetings page?
[11:38] <knome> QA: flocculant
[11:38] <ochosi> oh gee, finally...
[11:39] <ochosi> #action flocculant to schedule the next meeting
[11:39] <meetingology> ACTION: flocculant to schedule the next meeting
[11:39] <ochosi> #endmeeting
[11:39] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 3 11:39:15 2015 UTC.
[11:39] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-11-03-11.00.moin.txt
[11:39] <ochosi> thanks everyone!
[11:39] <knome> thank you
[11:39] <knome> bbl
[11:39] <bluesabre> thanks ochosi!
[11:40] <ochosi> and minutes are up and i'm out
[11:40] <ochosi> hf and a nice day everyone!
[11:41] <ochosi> (meh, B) is an emoticon ...)
[11:43] <knome> :D
[11:43] <knome> B'''''')
[11:43] <knome> (seriously)
[11:43] <knome> now, seriously off ->
[12:35] <flocculant> thanks all
[12:35] <flocculant> though I'm pretty sure I was lower down the list ...
[12:36] <flocculant> knome: re media manager - I wonder if the information from the poll that was done vivid would be helpful
[12:41] <flocculant> thinking about it - didn't need the info's anymore - though not all of that's on blueprint so no-one would know those things
[12:46] <flocculant> bluesabre: 11 utc ok for you in general?
[12:59] <jjfrv8> today's daily boots - finally! I can start package testing on hardware now :)
[13:16] <akxwi_dave> :-)
[16:12] <flocculant> jjfrv8: you know you just needed to apply the fix :)
[16:26] <jjfrv8> flocculant, not on my hardware. I couldn't get recovery mode to get me to a point where I could apply it.
[16:27] <flocculant> jjfrv8: well that's possibly a reportable thing in itself :)
[16:27] <knome> not any more ;)
[16:29] <flocculant> ochosi: scrollbars in thinkgs like synaptic - doing that hide what you're trying to click on issue - not got a clue what to report that against :( do you :D
[16:29] <flocculant> https://youtu.be/OdRj-JolnoA
[19:13] <mozmck> is there a utility to make bootable usb thumbdrives in xubuntu?
[19:15] <flocculant> I install and use gnome-disk-utility
[19:31] <ali1234> if you just want to make an installer you can just dd the iso to the drive
[19:49] <flocculant> knome: how can I link to a section id= in one file to another with this docbook?
[19:49] <flocculant> I assume there's a way :p
[20:16] <flocculant> well I thought I worked it out - but guess something's missing :) failed to load external entity "C/olinkdb.xml"
[20:20] <pleia2> flocculant: social mediaed the package testing call (including twitter)
[20:23] <flocculant> pleia2: thanks :)
[20:48] <flocculant> thanks krytarik - xref worked :)
[20:48] <krytarik> \o/
[21:03] <flocculant> slickymaster knome - why is that people push to lp:~yourusername/ubuntu-manual-tests/mychanges but if you try and do that with xubuntu-docs it has a fit?
[21:04] <flocculant> I shall look for an answer another time - as I'm now off :)
[21:30] <Unit193> 'gmb is that is developed in a completely different language', yeah, perl. I like perl better. :P
[21:39] <knome> pleia2, cheers
[21:39] <knome> flocculant, ping me when you're back
[21:44] <Unit193> lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings (NEW) 1.2.0-1 uploaded by James Lu
[21:56] <flocculant> knome: I'm back
[21:57] <knome> ok, so what's the real question :)
[21:58] <flocculant> you can ignore the first one I sorted that with krytarik's help :)
[21:58] <knome> ok
[21:58] <knome> so the other one
[21:59] <knome> what's the problem with pushing to lp:~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/mychanges?
[21:59] <flocculant> just wonder why I can't bzr push lp:~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/qa like I canbzr push lp:~flocculant/ubuntu-manual-tests/flooblefarble if I so wish
[21:59] <flocculant> knome: it fails with some perm error
[21:59] <knome> hmm.
[21:59] <knome> let me try that...
[22:00] <flocculant> bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "Cannot create 'qa'.
[22:00] <krytarik> "lp:~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/qa" - sure with two "xubuntu-docs"?
[22:00] <knome> that was what i was thinking too
[22:00] <Unit193> That usually means something else, right.
[22:01] <knome> worked for me with lp:~knome/xubuntu-docs/test
[22:01] <Unit193> knome: See my paste on the docs?
[22:01] <flocculant> krytarik: ok - so a double x-d failed it then:)
[22:01] <knome> Unit193, maybe not, depends what you are referring to
[22:01] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/1HJP8DrvghLSoteEAul6
[22:02] <knome> Unit193, yes i saw that and will keep ignoring it because you clearly know how to push to personal branches and do MP's
[22:03] <flocculant> knome: ok - so I can delete the odd branch I have here called /xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs ?
[22:03] <Unit193> knome: *Hopefully. Yes, but if you're not interested and just going to reject, I have no interest in yet another bug/mp going down the drain.
[22:03] <knome> flocculant, likely so :D
[22:03] <knome> Unit193, no, it looks good
[22:03] <knome> Unit193, as i said, it's not all prepared yet
[22:03] <knome> Unit193, fwiw, i don't mind how we organize the Makefile
[22:03] <Unit193> OK, good then. You're fine with contributors → contributors-html was the biggest question I suppose.
[22:03] <knome> well at least in the sense i'd have something against something proposed
[22:04] <knome> Unit193, yeah
[22:04] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/7IRq9JR.png
[22:04] <flocculant> just want to make sure nothing's going to go boom after the other night :p
[22:04] <knome> flocculant, have you done new changes you want to merge?
[22:04] <knome> flocculant, or was it all in the MP i handled?
[22:04] <flocculant> I have - but I just redid it
[22:05] <knome> oh, ok...
[22:05] <flocculant> knome: there's nothing from me for the user docs pending now at all
[22:05] <knome> if it isn't in that branch, then feel free to delet
[22:05] <knome> +e
[22:05] <knome> flocculant, mhm, good
[22:05] <knome> flocculant, i saw a mail or something about contributor doc changes
[22:05] <flocculant> yep - that's the new other stuff
[22:06] <flocculant> right - just proposed those now
[22:06] <Unit193> Crap.
[22:06] <flocculant> not sure why I ended up with xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs in the first place
[22:07] <flocculant> Unit193: I hope that's not aimed at me :|
[22:07] <Unit193> Well, I already committed, so my merge may be screwed.
[22:08] <knome> slickymaster, FYI, i just turned off automatic translation exports for the docs for xenial
[22:10] <knome> flocculant, so i didn't say this to you (or anybody else yet), but let's try to keep the id's in order
[22:10] <knome> flocculant, i was thinking something like "team-topic-subtopic" for the template
[22:10] <knome> or "team[-topic[-subtopic]]"
[22:11] <flocculant> like /contrib/QA/pages ?
[22:11] <Unit193> knome: Also, you 'touched' style before push at some point, or I think it was you. My merge only ran 'make clean' before submission.
[22:11] <knome> flocculant, no
[22:11] <knome> flocculant, in the markup
[22:12] <knome> <section id="tags">
[22:12] <flocculant> then no real clue what you mean - try and remember this is all something new
[22:12] <knome> could be <section id="qa-bugs-tags">
[22:12] <flocculant> aah right
[22:12] <Unit193> https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/fixes/+merge/276597
[22:12] <knome> that way figuring out the link target would be easier
[22:12] <flocculant> knome: ok - if we want to go with that ^^ then I'll do that now and repush it
[22:12] <knome> flocculant, if you have the time, sure; if not, i can do that when i merge
[22:13] <flocculant> nope - I can do that now
[22:13] <knome> flocculant, cheerio
[22:13] <flocculant> not working tomorrow ...
[22:13] <knome> Unit193, did you see the discussion about porting the scripts to work with two docbook templates?
[22:13] <Unit193> I don't believe so, are you sure they don't almost support it though?
[22:14] <knome> they almost do
[22:14] <SwissBot> feed xubuntu-docs had 20 updates, showing the latest 3
[22:14] <knome> but they have 'desktop-support' hardcoded
[22:14] <knome> err
[22:14] <knome> what am i typing
[22:14] <knome> 'desktop-guide'
[22:14] <knome> so they should likely be able to take a parameter that told which template we are talking about
[22:15] <knome> we figured out it would be sanest if the specifying the template was obligatory, but feel free to disagree
[22:17] <knome> flocculant, another thing for $some_time is figuring out if we want to use the entities for urls in the contributor docs as we do with the end-user docs
[22:17] <Unit193> knome: I'd leave desktop-guide as a fallback, personally. But doesn't matter much I'd suppose.
[22:17] <knome> Unit193, that would work for me too
[22:18] <flocculant> knome: ok did that tag thing
[22:18] <Unit193> I didn't poke the changelog, bah.
[22:18] <knome> flocculant, thanks!
[22:18] <flocculant> welcome ofc
[22:18] <knome> flocculant, one more thing :P
[22:18] <flocculant> certainly better to do that now than later
[22:18] <knome> i'll make slickymaster write this in the guidelines
[22:18] <flocculant> knome: pushing it ... :p
[22:18] <knome> do not use capital letters in id names...
[22:19] <knome> that throws me off D:
[22:19] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[22:19] <knome> ETOOWEIRD
[22:20] <knome> otherwise, thanks for the work
[22:20] <knome> i'll take some time tonight to merge that
[22:20] <knome> Unit193, i can wait for another revision :P
[22:20] <knome> Unit193, also, want to collaborate on the script tonight so we can get it sorted out?
[22:21] <flocculant> knome: there you go - don't say I never do anything for you ;)
[22:21] <knome> flocculant, i won't!
[22:21] <knome> thanks
[22:21] <flocculant> :)
[22:22] <Unit193> Maybe, depends on 'tonight'
[22:22] <knome> Unit193, next few hours?
[22:22] <flocculant> knome: so next thing is - how does a contributor read this stuff?
[22:22] <Unit193> Sounds good.
[22:23] <knome> flocculant, we have to figure out the building stuff (which i'm just trying to do with Unit193), then we can build it automatically and make pleia2 update docs.xubuntu.org with it
[22:23] <flocculant> ok - ta
[22:23] <knome> flocculant, and with 16.04, we will most likely ship the documentation with the system
[22:23] <flocculant> yep
[22:23] <Unit193> knome: FWIW, my daily already has it.
[22:23] <knome> Unit193, you and your dailies ;)
[22:23] <flocculant> knome: when that's done - we can make the site contribute/page a sensible lenght again
[22:23] <knome> flocculant, yep
[22:26] <flocculant> added that to the bp
[22:26] <knome> mhm
[22:27] <flocculant> going to talk to akxwi about one of the qa work items
[22:29] <Unit193> I: xubuntu-docs: font-in-non-font-package usr/share/xubuntu-docs/libs-common/fonts/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf
[22:29] <Unit193> I: xubuntu-docs: font-in-non-font-package usr/share/xubuntu-docs/libs-common/fonts/OpenSans-Italic.ttf
[22:30] <knome> Unit193, there's no open sans package
[22:30] <knome> afaik..
[22:31] <Unit193> Yeah I only found the first file in texlive-fonts-extra and xul-ext-lightbeam.
[22:31] <knome> that said, it would be nice to have open sans in a package..
[22:32] <Unit193> Not gonna do it.
[22:32] <knome> not that it would make a lot of difference for me..
[22:32] <Unit193> Oh, that might not have been directed to me. :D
[22:32] <knome> nope, just generally
[22:32] <knome> i'm such an art geek i have the whole google fonts repository
[22:32] <Unit193> I agree, just figured I'd point out the informational messages.
[22:33] <knome> am aware it isn't the "beautiful" way... but what do you do
[22:33] <Unit193> !info fonts-hack-ttf xenial
[22:33] <knome> but open sans isn't designed for source code
[22:33] <knome> the silly thing is
[22:33] <knome> the reason we need those ones is that droid sans doesn't have italic
[22:34] <knome> and open sans is "close enough" so people won't notice
[22:34] <Unit193> Hah, oh geez.
[22:34] <knome> yeah.
[22:41] <Unit193> knome: Not as is, but could something like https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/docs/branches.html be added?
[22:41] <knome> Unit193, totally
[22:42] <knome> i plan to migrate all of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes to this documentation too
[22:42] <Unit193> It's in asciidoc format now (s/.html/.txt/), but of course it'd likely be better entirely re-written. :D
[22:43] <knome> hah
[22:43] <flocculant> knome: well - if we're doing that then there's no reason to get rid of as much of the "I'll just wait for 20 minutes to login to wiki" stuff as we can
[22:44] <knome> flocculant, absolutely.
[22:44] <flocculant> I can help
[22:45] <Unit193> I've wondered about something that can show expected attendance at a meeting.
[22:47] <flocculant> so have I
[22:47] <Unit193> But, not on the wiki... :P
[22:47] <flocculant> ha ha
[22:48] <flocculant> I wasn't turning up - but now it's taken 2 weeks to login I found a slot :p
[22:49] <knome> flocculant, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/xenial/revision/474
[22:52] <flocculant> cheers
[22:53] <knome> np
[22:53] <flocculant> knome: do you want people to help with moving processes?
[22:53] <knome> flocculant, i can do it
[22:53] <flocculant> okey doke
[22:53] <knome> flocculant, i'll likely figure out how i want the stuff organized while i move that
[22:53] <knome> ...aand revision 476 pushed with Unit193's changes and the changelog telling flocculant did someting - FOR ONCE
[22:53] <knome> ;)
[22:54] <flocculant> \o/
[22:54] <Unit193> knome: Might be able to use bzr-builddeb.
[22:54] <knome> Unit193, for what?
[22:54] <knome> open sans? ;)
[22:55] <Unit193> Hrm, maybe not. git-buildpackage can construct d/changelog from commits, I just guess it's far better than bzr-builddeb. :---D
[22:56] <knome> heh
[22:56] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/PptH6rj4dItauP9FTMcN
[22:56] <flocculant> right - I'm done - night all
[23:00] <knome> nighty flocculant
[23:01] <knome> Unit193, who's maintaining bzr-builddeb then?
[23:03] <Unit193> Not a clue.
[23:13] <krytarik> knome: I think I have an idea how to make symlinking 'libs-common' unnecessary :P - if you agree.
[23:14] <SwissBot> feed xubuntu-docs had 6 updates, showing the latest 3
[23:15] <knome> krytarik, yes, it we can still maintain the files only in on eplace
[23:16] <krytarik> But only after creating a subdirctory for the end-user guide too.
[23:16] <krytarik> +e
[23:18] <krytarik> I guess I'd go with "user" and "contributor", respectively.
[23:18] <krytarik> Or "contrib" even.
[23:20] <Unit193> desktop-guide and contributor-docs is current. ;P
[23:20] <krytarik> Unit193: Not when built.
[23:21] <krytarik> I'd leave the source dirs as is.
[23:23] <krytarik> Depends on how much we want to shuffle around though.
[23:50] <krytarik> knome: Tell me when you think it's my turn :P - reg. that, the Makefiles, and the scripts.
[23:54] <knome> krytarik, now! :P
[23:54] <krytarik> lol
[23:54] <knome> i'm fine with changing the dir names
[23:54] <knome> and i think it would totally be best to have both in subdirs
[23:55] <krytarik> Source dirs too though?
[23:56] <krytarik> I think that might be problem for the translations done?
[23:56] <krytarik> +a
[23:57] <knome> i can't say i would know how it goes from the top of my head, but then again, i don't think it's a huge issue
[23:57] <knome> we have the .po files
[23:57] <knome> and we can always reimport them
[23:57] <knome> but if you are worried about that, it's ok to keep the source dirs as is
[23:57] <knome> at least the names now are descriptive
[23:58] <krytarik> Yeah, one could search & replace in the .po files.
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[19:07] <momo_> hi
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[16:09] <cmaloney> Apparently everything is getting a reboot now
[16:09] <cmaloney> Gretest American Hero
[16:09] <cmaloney> Soundgarden
[16:09] <cmaloney> OS/2
[16:42] <rick_h__> hah
[18:50] <jcastro> did someone say os/2?
[19:25] <cmaloney> Let's do the OS/2 WARP AGAIN!
[19:26] <cscheib> I bet jcastro still has his OS/2 Warp with original packaging
[19:27] <cmaloney> heh
[19:27] <cscheib> I'm not even joking
[19:27] <cscheib> heh
[19:30] <jcastro> I do
[19:30] <jcastro> blue spine!
[19:52] <cscheib> see?
[19:53] <cscheib> I don't think I've ever used OS/2 knowingly
[19:53] <cscheib> obviously it was on ATMs and such for a while
[19:53] <cmaloney> I've only used it peripherally
[19:53] <cmaloney> stuff for work on one machine that was brought in by some other third party
[21:27] <jrwren> i loved os2 for a brief period.
[21:46] <jcastro> it is 73 degrees outside
[21:46] <jcastro> it is november 3rd.
[22:47] <greg-g> cmaloney: not CC, but, post-rock with horns: https://fractalpattern.bandcamp.com/album/no-hope-but-mt-hope
[22:47] <greg-g> as in, brass instruments
[22:47] <greg-g> I'm liking so far
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[03:59] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:10] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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[01:22] <Unit193> aeden__d: Remember about the VPN? Well it's a slight "problem" that my VPS is in France. :P
[01:30] <aedend> Unit193, I'm not sure what you mean by "problem"? I've pretty much given up on trying to figure out how to stop dns leaks
[01:33] <Unit193> aedend: Heh, well in this case means sites think I'm in France, so Google is in French and wunderground.com gives me Metric.
[01:35] <aedend> Unit193, ah, I run into that when using tor-browser.
[01:36] <aedend> which in my case it's sometimes in German, French, Italian...
[01:37] <cyberanger> I have no issue for metric, I get that with a few of my sites
[01:37] <cyberanger> but yeah, while I'm working on learning french, that is a bit much
[01:38] <Unit193> cyberanger: Eww! :P
[01:39] <aedend> Unit193, “http://google.com/ncr”
[01:39] <cyberanger> What, it's helpful for Québec
[01:40] <cyberanger> and I do like Montréal, QC
[01:40] <cyberanger> Ahem, httpS://google.com/ncr
[01:41] <cyberanger> httpS://google.us works too
[01:41] <aedend> does it matter if your vpn is listening on 6697?
[01:41] <cyberanger> Mine isn't
[01:41] <aedend> or 443
[01:44] <cyberanger> Sometimes that helps with restrictive firewalls
[01:44] <cyberanger> but not the dns leak issue
[01:44] <aedend> don't mention dns leaks... I swear I'll start to twitch lol
[01:44] <cyberanger> Granted, I'm really thinking your not having a leak issue, the tool is flawed
[01:44] <cyberanger> opps
[01:45] <aedend> I've completely started from scratch since the last time we explored those problems
[01:46] <cyberanger> ouch
[01:47] <cyberanger> I've been upgrading all that since last weekend
[01:47] <cyberanger> err, I guess the weekend before last now
[01:47] <cyberanger> I was in Canada and found some changes to how Hulu and some others do GeoIP detection now, and made adjustments for that
[01:49] <cyberanger> and I made preperations for a border search, and they didn't bother searching
[01:49] <cyberanger> They will next time (or the time after next, if I get my end of the year roadtrip to happen)
[01:50] <cyberanger> I have to fly at the begining of next year, that'll likely cause them to do a border search involving the laptop
[01:51] <cyberanger> Granted, my laptop stickers will be intresting then
[01:58] <cyberanger> aedend: do you use virtualbox?
[01:59] <aedend> yeah
[02:33] <Unit193> "The requested URL /ncr was not found on this server. That’s all we know"
[02:41] <cyberanger> https://www.google.com/ncr doesn't work?
[02:47] <Unit193> cyberanger: That does, https://google.com/ncr does not.
[02:48] <cyberanger> huh
[02:48] <cyberanger> weird
[02:48] <Unit193> Yep, and .us redirects to .fr
[02:49] <cyberanger> Now that shouldn't happen
[02:50] <cyberanger> https://www.google.us/ncr ?
[02:52] <Unit193> ncr doesn't allow search.
[02:54] <Unit193> Seems the best I can do is append hl=en&
[02:56] <Unit193> (ncr uses session cookies, which is fine for most use cases, just not mine.)
[11:26] <fn001010> ctcp version aedend
[17:58] * cyberanger wonders
[19:03] <cyberanger> I need to be better about maintaining my pgp key's expire value
[19:38] <Ubik> Oh?
[20:45] <cyberanger> It expires for a day before I realize
[20:45] <cyberanger> A day or two
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[10:56] <ferbooliya> salam
[10:56] <ferbooliya> bacheha video amoozeshe shabakaro az koja mitoonam gir biyaram?
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-se
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[14:23] <Krawlezt> Efter många om och men har jag äntligen fått det mesta att fungera!
[14:25] <andol> Gött mos!
[14:28] <Krawlezt> Japp! Nu är bara frågan vad jag ska ha datorn till :)
[14:33] <Barre> Krawlezt: 90% av tiden du skall spenderar med datorn bör gå åt att optimera datorn att gå så bra och fort som möjligt för de restrerande 10% av tiden, vilket är att titta på kattbilder på internet
[18:02] <Krawlezt> Barre: Haha det är så det känns just nu! Jag har en screen med irssi och en tom
[18:26] <Krawlezt> Finns det fler svenska kanaler här på freenode?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.707474
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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"Barre",
"Krawlezt",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
}
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-uos-cloud
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[16:19] <ara> QUESTION: do you think "lxc" as the name for the CLI tool is a bit confusing? What is the rational of that? (as it can be confused with LXC)
[16:20] <jgrimm> ara, ACK. I have your question tee'd up.
[16:30] <dweaver> can you set resource limits such as CPU,RAM,DIsk,Bandwidth on a per container basis from the API and from the lxc CLI?
[16:32] <derEremit> QUESTION: will it be possible to "push" from local without having lxd exposed. As i understand pushin to a remote basically pull from the local lxd
[16:32] <jgrimm> dweaver, derEmerit: ACK. I've captured your questions for Stephane.
[16:34] <ara> brb
[16:36] <dweaver> QUESTION: How does lxd order networks when containers have multiple physical networks?
[16:37] <jgrimm> dweaver, ACK. Captured.
[16:37] <frantou> QUESTION: Can we study/reproduce the Ubuntu images published on images.linuxcontainers.org? Is there a public method to build them from stock Ubuntu releases?
[16:38] <jgrimm> frantou, ACK.
[16:39] <ara> re
[16:50] <bt909> QUESTION: is there an idea to work on a connection to the libvirt ecosystem, or will lxd exist pure in parallel and more tight to openstack? libvirt can some things lxd does i think
[16:51] <jgrimm> bt909, ack
[16:52] <derEremit> QUESTION: Followup! how would I currently push a locally developed image when I'm behind a firewall
[16:55] <ara> stgraber, jgrimm: thanks a lot to both, great session
[16:55] <bt909> great session, great work at all
[16:56] <stgraber> thanks!
[16:56] <frantou> Thank you! Has this session been recorded?
[16:56] <jgrimm> Thanks you everyone.
[16:57] <jgrimm> frantou, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vRmItDOR
[16:58] <stgraber> going to take a bit for youtube to publish it though
[16:58] <frantou> jgrimm: Great, thanks!
[16:58] <jgrimm> stgraber, i'm watching it now
[16:58] <stgraber> your link is missing a character I think :)
[16:58] <stgraber> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vRmItDORo
[16:58] <jgrimm> stgraber, oops. thanks!
[16:59] <stgraber> oops, just noticed I forgot to unfocus my laptop towards the end, so people can hear us but not see us :)
[16:59] <stgraber> oh well, they get to look at my last slide a lot more then :)
[17:00] <frantou> That's OK, we focused on what you said.
[17:56] <marcoceppi_> o/
[18:02] <cory_fu> http://interfaces.juju.solutions/
[18:04] <lazypower> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/10/29/now-youre-charming-with-layers/ - if you missed the talks earlier this week covering layers. here's an excellent blog from cory_fu over the topic
[18:05] <cory_fu> Walkthrough: https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/authors-charm-building
[18:05] <jcastro> marcoceppi_: can you cover 1.25?
[18:05] <marcoceppi_> jcastro: yes
[18:09] <kwmonroe> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByzcfkBiyc7aZmNkX0kxRG5rX1k&usp=drive_web
[18:09] <kwmonroe> design for java ^^
[18:17] <cory_fu> http://bigdata.juju.solutions/2015-10-29-now-youre-charming-with-layers/
[18:21] <cory_fu> One thing I'd like to clarify about interface layers is they should *only* cover the communication protocol that happens over the relation. They shouldn't contain any "behavior" implementation, as that should be handled by the charms on either side of the relation
[18:33] <dweaver> marcoceppi_, where were all the benchmarking charms you used in the demo, e.g. siege, collector?
[20:45] <mcphail> Just watched the video of the LXD UOS talk. For a desktop user, like me, is this technology capable of replacing a VM (i.e. can I run X11 desktop apps with hardware acceleration)?
[20:50] <mcphail> (I'm waiting for a solution to containerise my development setup, my games setup, my alternative distros, etc...)
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:24.713259
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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"ara",
"bt909",
"cory_fu",
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"dweaver",
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"jcastro",
"jgrimm",
"kwmonroe",
"lazypower",
"marcoceppi_",
"mcphail",
"stgraber"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/05/%23ubuntu-uos-cloud.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-uos-cloud"
}
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[00:26] <pleia2> the team is officially verified for another 2 years, thanks nhaines for putting together the application https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ReVerificationApplication2015
[00:26] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/ReVerificationApplication2015 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[01:52] <nhandler> Thanks nhaines :)
[01:55] <nhandler> Also, I have a box of pens/stickers sitting under my desk at work that I'll bring to the next event
[17:57] <nhaines> The next UOS session is about to start. meetup.com for LoCo Teams. You can view the video at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22618/meetupcom-for-loco-teams/ and ask questions in #ubuntu-uos-community
[17:57] <darthrobot> Title: [Meetup.com for LoCo teams - | The Summit Scheduler]
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:24.715761
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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"darthrobot",
"nhaines",
"nhandler",
"pleia2"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca"
}
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-ru
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[09:21] <tagezi> утра всем
[09:30] <Jastinog> доброе
[09:57] <artemz> доброе
[10:01] <SergeyIT> угу
[10:03] <JohnDoe_71Rus> понедельник среди недели
[10:22] <Artur_Prosto> привет
[10:22] <Artur_Prosto> может кто помочь с настройкой шлюза ?
[10:30] <SmOkE_RU> Привет, а какие проблемы ?
[10:34] <Artur_Prosto> настраиваю впервые. чутка запутался с фаерволом
[10:34] <Artur_Prosto> включаю маскардинг
[10:34] <Artur_Prosto> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[10:34] <Artur_Prosto> я так понимаю оно в таблице нат. цепочке POSTROUTING все ип выходящие в нэт с интерфейса eth0 будет заменять на свой (1 единственный)
[10:34] <Artur_Prosto> так ?
[10:40] <SmOkE_RU> Вроде да
[10:43] <Artur_Prosto> после этого . мне всего лишь поднять соединение с провайдером , и всё. указывать везде ип шлюза
[10:44] <SmOkE_RU> По крайней мере у меня так же, только на ррр0, т.к. впн.
[10:44] <Artur_Prosto> по идее он всех будет пускать в нэт
[10:44] <Artur_Prosto> это самая базовая настройка
[10:44] <SmOkE_RU> а в /etc/sysctl.conf net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 поставил ?
[10:44] <Artur_Prosto> да
[10:44] <Artur_Prosto> без каких либо там защит и блокировок
[10:45] <SmOkE_RU> Тогда да, должно работать. Хотя возможно еще гетвей надо будет прописать
[10:46] <Artur_Prosto> где ?
[10:46] <SmOkE_RU> В маршрутизации
[10:46] <Artur_Prosto> указать ип в качестве шлюза на машинах ?
[10:46] <SmOkE_RU> У тебя ж на сервере 2 сетевухи ?
[10:46] <Artur_Prosto> если на шлюзе. то разве он не должен выдаваться автоматом подключением
[10:46] <Artur_Prosto> да
[10:47] <SmOkE_RU> Ну ты в общем попробуй без гетвея, если не пойдет, пиши, разберемся
[10:47] <SmOkE_RU> Я уже непомню что я там у себя настраивал :)
[10:47] <Artur_Prosto> хех. как я напишу то ) если нэта не будет
[10:48] <SmOkE_RU> Ты сейчас через что подключаешься ?
[10:49] <Artur_Prosto> другой сервер . он то вроде бы работает. но там куча правил. и хер в них разберёшься . я тоже думал от туда сначала скопировать. но передумал
[10:49] <Artur_Prosto> если что уж достучусь сюда. есть резервный выход в нэт
[10:51] <Artur_Prosto> получает правило iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE , это единственное что нужно сделать с фаерволом для доступа в нэт без блокировок и т.п
[10:51] <Artur_Prosto> так ?
[10:54] <SmOkE_RU> Да, это правило перенапрявляет весь трафик на сетевуху, которая напрявит его далше
[10:54] <SmOkE_RU> Дальше
[10:56] <Artur_Prosto> а не надо указывать откуда пришёл трафик ? iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -eth1 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[10:56] <Artur_Prosto> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i eth1 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[11:24] <SmOkE_RU> По идее не надо
[12:14] <Artur_Prosto> кароче не взлетело
[12:14] <Artur_Prosto> на шлбзе нэт есть
[12:14] <Artur_Prosto> а машинах нету
[12:14] <tagezi> Artur_Prosto: а ты можешь писать в одном предложении? )
[12:15] <tagezi> ну, до 255 знаков в строке, обычно нормально отображается
[12:15] <Artur_Prosto> здорово
[12:15] <tagezi> и тебе привет )
[12:17] <Artur_Prosto> проблема всё равно не решена
[12:19] <tagezi> Artur_Prosto: ну, праснётся ктонить знающий и поможет
[12:20] <Artur_Prosto> в этом то и проблема . ждать некогда
[12:20] <tagezi> читай маны тогда
[12:20] <tagezi> народ вообще работает, и в паузах сюда заглядывает, а если завал, то и вовсе не заходит
[12:22] <andrex> !nat
[12:22] <ubuntuhelp> Примеры настройки iptables для раздачи интернета в своей локальной сети можно посмотреть тут: http://debian.pro/249 и http://unixforum.org/index.php?showtopic=59770
[13:39] <Alexx_> привет
[13:40] <tagezi> о, привет. тут живые оказывается есть
[13:40] <andrex> где? кто давай прибьем?
[13:41] <andrex> все агафон опять кудато пропал, чет он там совсем запахался на форуме появляется раз несколько месяцев) ответил мну я ему ответил а он уже убег, хитрый жук
[13:42] <Alexx_> Как Ubuntu 14.04 по сравнению с Ubuntu 12.04 в плане прожорливости?
[13:42] <andrex> да примерно одинаково вроде бы
[13:42] <tagezi> у меня уже 2 лопаты сточилось
[13:42] <andrex> вот 15 уже заметно
[13:42] <andrex> в юнитях покрайней мере
[13:42] <tagezi> andrex: какой у нас формат даты по ISO?
[13:43] <andrex> кракадила какогото мастерят они
[13:43] <andrex> tagezi: фз)
[13:43] <Alexx_> спс
[13:43] <tagezi> блин..
[13:44] <andrex> date -I
[13:44] <andrex> посмотри)
[13:44] <andrex> ГГГГ ММ ДД вроде
[13:45] <tagezi> не.. в россии по госту дд.мм.(гг)гг
[13:45] <andrex> аа те рашенский нада) но его я ваще фз
[13:45] <tagezi> мне интерено как это на европейском будет.. у них же нет гостов
[13:46] <andrex> In a Bash script, I want to print the current datetime in ISO 8601 format (preferably UTC), and it seems that this should be as simple as date -I
[13:48] <tagezi> да, тоже самое только в медиавики ))
[13:49] <andrex> вобщем не ты один такой хороший)
[13:49] <andrex> хотяя ище исо этих туева куча
[13:50] <tagezi> вовово
[13:50] <tagezi> по госту должна быть точка, а в iso этих знаков хоть ложкой ешь )
[13:54] <andrex> там нет точки как нестранно) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 или всетаки чет у них там свое опчть также как с кодировкой тогда
[14:21] <SergeyIT> так дата может быть короткая и длинная еще...
[14:22] <tagezi> SergeyIT: мне бы короткую, а то таблица едит
[20:03] <Sergey_IT> вечера
[20:20] <buriedalive> глубокой ночи!?
[20:39] <tagezi> глубокая ночь - это утро )
[21:10] <buriedalive> tagezi уже
[21:30] <strativa> тут есть кто?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.733024
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-il
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[11:34] <Darky_> hello v bracha
[14:33] <Ddorda> Darky_, hey there
[14:33] <Darky_> sup
[14:34] <Ddorda> all good, all good
[14:35] <Ddorda> how's things with you?
[15:52] <Darky_> Smooth
[15:53] <Darky_> and u
[16:19] <tzafrir> מישהו כתב לי הודעה ושאל אותי על משתמשי לינוקס בירושלים. יש דבר כזה?
[16:19] <tzafrir> (הוא שם לרגל כנס מחר)
[16:22] <Darky_> אולי...
[21:40] <Ddorda> tzafrir, לא הייתה פעם קהילת לינוקס ירושלמית?
[22:00] <Ddorda> אשכרה, לא יאמן שזה עדיין עובד
[22:00] <trytry> Ddorda: ???
[22:00] <trytry> שנים אבל שנים לא ראיתי את השם
[22:01] <trytry> מה נשמע?
[22:01] <trytry> עדין אובונטו?
[22:02] <Ddorda> אובונטו, אבל מה זה פירקתי לו את הצורה
[22:02] <trytry> למה מה?
[22:02] <Ddorda> הדבר היחיד שנשאר אותו דבר זה APT בערך
[22:02] <trytry> :-)
[22:03] <Ddorda> קנוניקל אנשים עם הרבה חזון, אבל החזון שלהם לא מאוד מתחבר עם הרצון שלי לפרק למערכת הפעלה את הצורה
[22:06] <Ddorda> ואתה? נטשת?
[22:06] <trytry> לא
[22:06] <trytry> עדין קובונטו
[22:06] <trytry> לא מסתדר עם יונטי
[22:06] <Ddorda> כן כן יוינטי בעייתי
[22:06] <trytry> לא מבין מה חשבו לעצמם כשפתחו אותו
[22:06] <trytry> אני עם KDE 5
[22:07] <trytry> אין לי מה לומר תענוג
[22:07] <Ddorda> יש שם כמה פיצ'רים מטורפים, אבל זה מגביל אחושרמוטה
[22:07] <trytry> עשו עבודה יפה על KDE 5
[22:08] <Ddorda> וואלה
[22:08] <trytry> כן
[22:08] <Ddorda> אני אסתכל, מודה שאני לא עף על הסטייל של ₪גָ
[22:08] <Ddorda> אבל סיקרנת אותי
[22:08] <Ddorda> של KDE*
[22:08] <trytry> זה ממש מורגש שכל צוות הפיתוח עובד עם צוות עיצוב חזותי
[22:09] <trytry> כאילו הכל נהיה אחיד פתאום
[22:09] <trytry> וזה כולל גם את LO
[22:09] <trytry> שפתאום נראית וכנה נורמלית ולא איזה צעצוע ששכח איך מתלבשים בבוקר
[22:09] <trytry> תוכנה*
[22:10] <trytry> תעשה סיבו ביוטיוב תראה
[22:10] <trytry> סיבוב*
[22:10] <Ddorda> LO?
[22:11] <Ddorda> כן הסתכלתי, נראה טוב מה אני אגיד
[22:11] <trytry> libre office
[22:11] <Ddorda> וולאק
[22:12] <Ddorda> בשבילי זה יותר מדי אפקטים, אבל נראה מדהים
[22:12] <trytry> האמת שאין מי יודע מה אפקטים
[22:12] <trytry> זאת אומרת תחליט לשים אקטים יהיו אפקטים
[22:12] <trytry> זה לא ברירת מחדל
[22:12] <Ddorda> לעומת מה שיש לי זה מלא אפקטים
[22:12] <Ddorda> http://ddorda.net/archives/1781
[22:18] <trytry> חח
[22:18] <trytry> מה זה חיפוש תפריטים?
[22:28] <Ddorda> יש את זה ביוניטי
[22:29] <Ddorda> אתה לוחץ על alt ומחפש בתפריטים
[22:29] <Ddorda> כמו Ctrl+Shift+P ב-sublime
[22:31] <Ddorda> מטורף כמה ש-WM טוב יכול לחסוך את Compiz
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.748494
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Darky_",
"Ddorda",
"trytry",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-il"
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-it
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[01:09] <ILCinese> salve ragazzi ho appena scaricato linux ed ora?
[01:09] <ILCinese> vorrei metteerlo in una partizione
[07:26] <glpiana> ola
[10:21] <foxino> ciao amici, ho un problema con la login in ubuntu
[11:12] <nessuno> Ciao a tutti. ho installato kubuntu, ora oltre che non ho piu audio .mi dice che il file o il percorso non esiste.poi prima shermata di avvio finestra che dice:
[11:13] <nessuno> Warning: cannot open console kit session : the permision of the setuidis not correcy
[11:14] <nessuno> Help!!!
[11:37] <sta_> e quindi, la 15.10 è da buttare alla fine?
[11:44] <ExPBoy> !chat | sta_
[11:45] <ubot-it> sta_: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[11:45] <sta_> ah, ok
[11:46] <sta_> e quindi, come posso buttare la 15.10?
[11:46] <sta_> :)
[11:46] <sta_> bella li, ciao!
[12:15] <freddy> ciao
[12:15] <freddy> ce qualcuno?
[12:15] <Carlin0> !qualcuno | freddy
[12:15] <ubot-it> freddy: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[12:16] <freddy> ubuntu touch?
[12:16] <freddy> come lo vedete?
[12:17] <freddy> come si installa?
[12:18] <freddy> come installare ubuntu touch?
[12:19] <freddy> va beh!!!
[12:19] <freddy> at cialut!!!!
[12:19] <freddy> am vag a ca
[12:23] <adada> oooo
[12:23] <adada> cè qualcuno
[12:23] <ExPBoy> !qualcuno
[12:23] <ubot-it> la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[12:25] <adada> ok non riesco a connettermi ad internet
[12:26] <ExPBoy> !dettagli | adada
[12:26] <ubot-it> adada: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[12:26] <adada> ho appena fatto la partizione e installato linux ma ècome se on avessi il wifi non capisco bene
[12:26] <Carlin0> adada, nemmeno via ethernet ?
[12:26] <adada> non posso provare via ethernet il modem sta in un altra casa
[12:26] <Carlin0> dal vicino ?
[12:27] <ExPBoy> ?
[12:27] <adada> si per ora non ho una cpnnessione e ce la presta
[12:27] <Carlin0> ti aspettiamo
[12:27] <adada> ?
[12:28] <Carlin0> adada, per risolvere la cosa devi connettere via cavo e venire qui
[12:28] <adada> ?non esiste altro metod^
[12:29] <ExPBoy> scusa adada ma ora con cosa sei collegato/a
[12:29] <adada> con un altro pc windows
[12:29] <ExPBoy> sempre con la connessione del vicino?
[12:30] <adada> esatto
[12:31] <adada> non posso andare dal vicino e quella che mi affitta la casa è una vecchietta
[12:31] <adada> se faccio iwlist scan non mi da nessuna wlan
[12:32] <adada> solo eno1 e lo entrambi interface doesent support scanning
[12:32] <adada> è come se avessi il wifi staccato
[12:32] <ExPBoy> apri un terminale e digita lspci | grep -i net e metti su pastebin
[12:32] <ExPBoy> !paste
[12:32] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[12:34] <adada> dove lo trovo pastebein
[12:34] <adada> perdonate l ignoranza
[12:34] <ExPBoy> !paste
[12:34] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[12:35] <adada> inserisco il codice mi da dei numeri network bla bla bla
[12:35] <adada> se poi scrive !paste mi dice event not found
[12:35] <ExPBoy> adada, non sai fae un copia incolla e aprire il sito?
[12:35] <adada> aaaaa ok XD
[12:35] <ExPBoy> seee
[12:36] <adada> ok ci sono
[12:36] <ExPBoy> eh
[12:36] <ExPBoy> pure io
[12:36] <adada> faccio il downlaod?
[12:36] <ExPBoy> ok tempo perso
[12:37] <ExPBoy> ciao
[12:37] <adada> ma dai
[12:37] <adada> XD non ho mai usato linux voglio cercare id capire
[12:37] <ExPBoy> !wiki
[12:37] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org - http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GuidaWiki
[12:37] <Carlin0> !wifi
[12:37] <ubot-it> wireless is Sezione dedicata ai disposivi senza fili: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili - Risoluzione problemi comuni legati al WiFi: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/GuidaWiFi
[12:38] <ExPBoy> adada, non si tratta di linux ma di fare un semplice copia incolla
[12:40] <adada> ok ma non avevo capito che scrivendo !qualcosa poi andavo ad aprire il link pensavo fosse un messaggio di sistema qualcosa del genere
[12:40] <adada> comunque se provo a seguire la guida nel momento in cui facio iw config non mi da nessuno scheda di rete
[12:41] <ExPBoy> se non ti vede la scheda c'è poco da fare
[12:41] <ExPBoy> per quello ti avevo gentilmente chiesto di copiarmi l'output di quel comando ma evidentemente non vuoi
[12:42] <adada> xD no ovvio che voglio solo che non avevo capito scusami eh
[12:42] <adada> se non volevo non venvo a cercare assitenza qui
[12:45] <adada> non mi vede nemmeno i driver proprietari
[12:46] <adada> nessuno può aiutarmi allora?
[12:48] <adada> grazie mille lo stesso buon lavoro ragazzi
[13:16] <levatifo> Salve i link di ndiswrapper non funzionano come faccio?
[13:34] <levatifo> scheda di rete broadcom linux appena installato non riesco a connettermi ad internet non mi trova i driver della scheda come faccio ad installarli?
[13:43] <zanardi99> ciao a tutti.c'e' qualcuno in chat?
[13:47] <hotoko> esponi il tuo problema zanardi e vedrai che quelche anima pia ti risponderà
[16:07] <pintagorico> ciao c è qualcuno in linea?
[16:09] <nana> ciao qualcuno mi aiuta, vorrei creare un startup disk da una .iso il problema è che non mi fa selezionare la iso che voglio io..
[16:10] <cristian_c> nana: è un'affermazione o una domanda?
[16:10] <nana> fino a qualcuno mi aiuta è una domanda:) poi spieo il problema..
[16:11] <krabador> nana, se non iso di ubuntu , entra in #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:11] <Carlin0> cioè come si fa ad aiutarti se non spieghi ?
[16:13] <nana> cioè quando sono su startup disk e premo other, per cercare la iso, la trovo, la seleziono, e faccio open, poi mi sparisce la finestra e torna a quella di startupdisk , senza però mettermi la iso che ho selezionato,
[16:13] <nana> cosa sbaglio?
[16:14] <Carlin0> nana, come lo fai sto disco ?
[16:14] <krabador> a non dire che iso stai cercando di usare col programma.
[16:14] <nana> vorrei farlo su chiavetta co l app startup disk creator
[16:15] <nana> krabador, è la iso di kubuntu
[16:15] <Carlin0> nana, da windows ?
[16:15] <krabador> nana, incolla il nome
[16:15] <nana> no da ubuntu
[16:15] <krabador> nana, spetta, in che ubuntu stai cercando di usare startup
[16:15] <nana> de che?
[16:15] <krabador> ?
[16:15] <krabador> nana, per favore , rispondi
[16:15] <nana> ubuntu semplice
[16:15] <cristian_c> mmµm
[16:16] <krabador> nana, quale ubuntu
[16:16] <krabador> numero versioen
[16:16] <nana> UBUNTUUUU
[16:16] <Carlin0> 15.10 ?
[16:16] <krabador> nana, accendi il cervello
[16:16] <krabador> quale numero di versione
[16:16] <nana> ahhh non è l ultima ultima ma quella prima
[16:16] <cristian_c> Carlin0: fai rispondere l'utente, non suggerire
[16:16] <krabador> nana, ecco
[16:17] <krabador> c'è un motivo molto importante
[16:17] <krabador> per cui va indicato il numero di versione
[16:17] <krabador> da 15.04 c'è un problema noto con startup disk creator
[16:17] <krabador> che non riesce a fare le pendrive
[16:17] <krabador> da quella versione alle successive
[16:18] <krabador> nana, devi usare altro .
[16:18] <nana> ahhhh quindi. ubuntu studio va?
[16:19] <krabador> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes#Boot.2C_installation_and_post-install
[16:19] <krabador> nana, non è questione di derivata
[16:19] <krabador> ma di numero di versione
[16:19] <krabador> non va nessina
[16:19] <krabador> nessuna
[16:20] <krabador> nana, dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdx
[16:20] <krabador> dove x deve corrispondere alla lettera assegnata alla pendrive
[16:20] <krabador> SENZA NUMERO DI PARTIZIONE
[16:21] <krabador> e lo vedi cons sudo fdisk -l
[16:21] <nana> ahahahahah cheeee?
[16:21] <nana> mi sa che aspetterò che chiudano sto bug:)
[16:22] <Carlin0> nana, non hai win ?
[16:22] <krabador> nana, in bocca al lupo
[16:22] <Carlin0> ecco
[16:22] <cristian_c> Carlin0: ehhhh, ma win costa
[16:23] <Carlin0> per questo mi tengo caro il mio vecchio XP anche se non lo uso
[16:23] <Carlin0> LOL
[17:31] <nessuno> Ciao a tutti Ho lubuntu 14 non si riesce a vedere filmati su you tube. si blocca e non avanzano piu anche se e' tutto scaricato potete aiutarmi per favore?
[17:34] <cristian_c> nessuno: prima di tutto, su quale pc?
[17:36] <nessuno> pentium 4 3 ghz 1giga di ram
[17:37] <cristian_c> nessuno: non so a che risoluzione tu abbia impostato i filmati
[17:37] <cristian_c> ma immagino che un pentium 4 faccia fatica
[17:39] <cristian_c> nessuno: tra l'altro il download dei video da youtube è vietato da google
[17:39] <cristian_c> non è consentito questo tipo di utilizzo nella licenza d'uso
[17:40] <cristian_c> a meno che tu non abbia acquistato un abbonamento a youtube red
[17:42] <lantlos> salve, sto cercando di scaricare il pacchetto dell'interfaccia italiana per Libreo Office. Il problema è che l'USC mi riporta il seguente messaggio di errore "La dipendenza non può essere soddisfatta: libobasis5.0-core (>=5.0.3.2) . Potete aiutarmi? Grazie
[17:43] <lantlos> (il pacchetto che sto cercando di installare è libobasis5.0-it)
[17:43] <cristian_c> lantlos: come l'hai cercato 'sto pacchetto?
[17:44] <lantlos> nel sito ufficiale di libre office, nella sezione download. Mi fa scaricare un file tar.gz che contiene i vari .deb per le applicazioni del pacchetto libre office.
[17:46] <cristian_c> lantlos: allora
[17:47] <cristian_c> lantlos: fai una cosa: butta via tetto
[17:47] <cristian_c> non è il modo canonico per installarlo
[17:47] <cristian_c> *tutto
[17:47] <lantlos> cristian_c, disinstallo totalmente libre office?
[17:48] <cristian_c> lantlos: disinstalla la roba scaricata e fatti un piacere: installa libreoffice dai repo
[17:48] <cristian_c> ufficiali di ubunyu
[17:48] <cristian_c> lantlos: che i software li trovi massicciamente nei repo di ubuntu, non devi andarteli a cercare in giro per il web
[17:49] <lantlos> cristian_c, è esattamente ciò che ho fatto. Ho installato libre office dal software center ma quando sono andato ad usarlo era in inglese e non c'era la possibilità di settare l'interfaccia in italiano. Sono andato in giro per il web proprio per recuperare quel pacchetto che sui repo ufficiali non trovavo.
[17:50] <nessuno> non ho detto che scarico video
[17:50] <nessuno> ma non ho detto che scarico video!
[17:51] <cristian_c> lantlos: eh, no
[17:52] <cristian_c> lantlos: nei repo ci sono anche i pacchetti della lingua
[17:52] <cristian_c> !ubuntuitaliano | lantlos
[17:52] <ubot-it> lantlos: Ubuntu Unity: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/session-language.html Altro: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/UbuntuItaliano - Elenco pacchetti: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/UbuntuItaliano#Ubuntu.2C_Xubuntu_e_Lubuntu_in_italiano
[17:52] <cristian_c> !libreoffice | lantlos
[17:52] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'libreoffice'
[17:53] <cristian_c> lantlos: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Ufficio/LibreOffice
[17:54] <cristian_c> nessuno> Ciao a tutti Ho lubuntu 14 non si riesce a vedere filmati su you tube. si blocca e non avanzano piu anche se e' tutto scaricato potete aiutarmi per favore?
[17:54] <cristian_c> chissà che ha scaricato...
[18:00] <lantlos> cristian_c, sto seguendo la wiki per libreoffice ma per il secondo pacchetto ita ricevo questo errore "Non esiste un pacchetto software chiamato «language-support-writing-it» nelle sorgenti software attuali"
[18:02] <cristian_c> !ubuntuitaliano | lantlos
[18:02] <ubot-it> lantlos: Ubuntu Unity: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/session-language.html Altro: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/UbuntuItaliano - Elenco pacchetti: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/UbuntuItaliano#Ubuntu.2C_Xubuntu_e_Lubuntu_in_italiano
[18:04] <lantlos> cristian_c, per il primo link "The requested URL /13.10/ubuntu-help/session-language.html was not found on this server.", per il secondo ed il terzo il mio SO è già in italiano
[18:04] <cristian_c> lantlos: il secondo
[18:13] <lantlos> cristian_c, i pacchetti indicati al secondo link erano già tutti installati
[18:16] <lantlos> cristian_c, quello che non capisco è perché se lanciao sudo apt-get autoremove mi viene proposto di cancellare i pacchetti italino per libreoffice
[18:23] <cristian_c> lantlos: dpkg -l | grep libreoffice
[18:23] <cristian_c> !paste | lantlos
[18:23] <ubot-it> lantlos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[18:25] <lantlos> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13114403/
[18:37] <horn> buonasera a tutti , ho installato ubuntu su un notebook ..va tutto bene ,ma quando scarico il pac
[18:37] <horn> chetto della lingua italiana mi dice pacchetto non trovato. Come posso risolvere grazie
[18:46] <horn> ho provato questo comando ma nulla : sudo apt-get install language-pack-it language-pack-it-base language-pack-gnome-it language-pack-gnome-it-base language-support-it
[18:52] <horn> there anyone?
[18:57] <Stefano84> Buona sera a tutti, ho installato ubuntu su un notebook, è andato tutto bene ma quando provo a mettere il pacchetto della lingua italiana che ho scaricato mi dice pacchetto non trovato. Come si può risolvere il problema ?
[19:06] <niconico> ragazzi chi mi sa spiegare come mai una volta entrato nella sessione live da usb per installare lubuntu, clicco su installa lubuntu e non mi si apre niente? nemmeno firefox si apre..
[19:26] <niconico> chi sa qualcosa?
[20:17] <Ralf20> Esiste un file di log con tutti i comandi che si sono dati sul terminale?
[20:20] <niconico> acpi pcc probe failed
[20:21] <niconico> ragazzi non riesco a installare lubuntu 14.04 lts
[20:21] <niconico> non è la prima volta che cambio sistema linux, solo che questa volta in modalità live non mi fa aprire niente, come se cliccassi nel vuoo
[20:23] <niconico> zzzzz
[20:40] <cristian_c> lantlos:
[20:40] <cristian_c> ii libreoffice-l10n-it 1:4.2.8-0ubuntu1 all office productivity suite -- Italian language package
[20:41] <cristian_c> lantlos: il pacchetto della lingua italiana è già installato
[20:42] <lantlos> cristian_c, come mai sudo apt-get autoremove me lo indica come pacchetto da rimuovere?
[20:42] <cristian_c> Ralf20: sì, esiste, e puoi anche direttamente utilizzare il comando per elencare la cronologia della shell bash
[20:43] <cristian_c> lantlos: non capisco, come hai installato quel pacchetto?
[20:43] <lantlos> cristian_c, dalla wiki come mi hai indicato
[20:44] <cristian_c> lantlos: allora
[20:44] <cristian_c> lantlos: apri libreoffice
[20:45] <cristian_c> lantlos: Strumenti->Opzioni
[20:45] <lantlos> cristian_c, funziona tutto, vorrei solo capire perché danto sudo apt-get autoremove i seguenti pacchetti sono proposti come "da rimuovere": hyphen-en-us libreoffice-help-en-gb libreoffice-help-en-us
[20:45] <lantlos> libreoffice-help-it libreoffice-l10n-en-gb libreoffice-l10n-en-za
[20:45] <lantlos> libreoffice-l10n-it mythes-en-au openoffice.org-hyphenation
[20:45] <cristian_c> pou impostazioni lingua
[20:45] <cristian_c> lantlos: ah, la impostasti allora?
[20:46] <lantlos> cristian_c, sì
[20:46] <cristian_c> lantlos: immagino perché quelli sono in altre lingue
[20:46] <cristian_c> ma non dovrebbero darti fastidio
[20:47] <lantlos> cristian_c, libreoffice-help-it e libreoffice-l10n-it sono pacchetti di italiano però
[20:47] <cristian_c> sopratutto l'inglese che per forza di cose va a coprire parti non tradotte in italiano
[20:47] <lantlos> mi sbaglio?
[20:47] <cristian_c> lantlos: i due pacchetti sono diversi tra loro
[20:48] <Ralf20> cristian_c: e dove lo trovo il file di log?
[20:48] <lantlos> cristian_c, questo lo capisco, ma se sono pacchetti italiano perché sudo apt-get autoremove mi propone di eliminarli?
[20:48] <cristian_c> lantlos: l10n riguarda l'interfaccia grafica, help-it riguarda il manuale in linea
[20:48] <cristian_c> (richiamabile con f1)
[20:48] <cristian_c> Ralf20: nella tua home, ma ti basta digitare: history
[20:48] <cristian_c> in un terminale
[20:49] <lantlos> cristian_c, ma che senso ha se l'italiano su libreoffice è settato come lingua predefinita?
[20:49] <cristian_c> lantlos: perché digitibquel comando?
[20:50] <lantlos> cristian_c, ci sono situazioni in cui mi è stato indicato di utilizzarlo. Se un domani dovesse servirmi dovrò quindi rinunciare all'italiano su libreoffice? Non capisco
[20:50] <cristian_c> chi te l'ha indicato?
[20:53] <lantlos> cristian_c, il nome e il cognome non me li sono segnati, ma mi ricordo di aver seguito istruzioni datemi qui e sul forum ufficiale
[20:53] <lantlos> cristian_c, la mia domanda è solo: perché sudo apt-get autoremove mi propone di togliere i pacchetti italiano di office che utilizzo? tutto qui
[20:54] <skeda> ciao a tutti
[20:54] <Ralf20> cristian_c: Grazie!
[20:54] <skeda> sono nuovo di ubuntu server
[20:55] <skeda> chi puo' aiutarmi a configurare una sk wireless broadcom
[21:45] <niconico> acpi pcc probe failed?
[21:46] <novellino> ciao
[21:46] <novellino> c'è qualcuno che mi sa aiutare per l'installazione di ubuntu?
[21:46] <novellino> ho fatto tutta la procedura per installare con usb ma al riavvio non mi parte in automatico
[21:50] <jester1-> novellino: cosa non ti parte
[21:52] <niconico> novellino: quale procedura?
[21:56] <jester1-> si è abbioccato
[21:56] <jester1-> o lè mort
[21:57] <novellino> ci siete ancora?
[21:58] <novellino> allora io ho scaricato la iso, poi dopo aver formattato la usb ci ho messo dentro i file della iso estratti con unetbooting
[21:58] <novellino> poi ho messo usb alla boot
[21:59] <novellino> e al riavvio non si apre la procedura di installazione automatica
[22:00] <novellino> alla boot posso scegliere tra usb zip e usb fpp quale devo mettere?
[22:03] <jester1-> novellino: la usb va fatta con apposito tool, sei da winzoz?
[22:03] <novellino> scusami ma non sono molto esperto
[22:03] <novellino> cos'è winzoz?
[22:03] <jester1-> windows
[22:03] <novellino> si
[22:03] <novellino> windows 7
[22:03] <jester1-> !usbwin | novellino
[22:03] <ubot-it> novellino: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[22:04] <jester1-> fra altro è il miglior tool in circolazione
[22:04] <novellino> grazie provo subito
[22:05] <novellino> allo step 1 metto ubuntu?
[22:05] <novellino> o ubuntu 32/64 bit
[22:06] <jester1-> segui la guida
[22:06] <jester1-> se hai la io scorri la lisa sotto e metti altro
[22:06] <jester1-> o da iso
[22:07] <novellino> perfetto
[22:07] <novellino> la stà creando
[22:08] <novellino> un'altra cosa, ma alla boot principale quale devo mettere tra usb zipp e usb fpp
[22:09] <novellino> immagino la prima se fpp significa floppy disk, visto che il mio pc manco ce l'ha l'entrata dei floppy
[22:11] <jester1-> provali tutti
[22:11] <novellino> ok grazie mille
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[01:58] <marisol_> hola :) me acabo de mudar a ubuntu solo que no puedo instalar mi tarjeda usb de wifi .. tengo el driver pero no logro instalarlo .. alguien me ayuda?
[01:59] <Xavier89> marisol_ primero tenes que fijarte que chiset usa tu tarjeta
[01:59] <marisol_> es atheros
[01:59] <Xavier89> y asegurate de que sea el correcto
[02:00] <marisol_> gracias por respondeer .. mira lo encontr aqui https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc pero al seguir las instrucciones me regresa un error la consola
[02:45] <AlexLikerock> marisol
[02:45] <AlexLikerock> es de USB oPCI ?
[02:45] <AlexLikerock> mmm
[02:55] <marisol> Xavier
[02:55] <marisol> xavier89
[02:56] * marisol slaps Xavier89 around a bit with a large fishbot
[10:45] <noseasasi> Buenasss...
[10:57] <Tiffon> nas
[16:24] <backbox> hola
[16:24] <backbox> hay alguien
[16:24] <Z4sk4> wola!
[16:24] <Z4sk4> k tal backbox
[16:25] <backbox> bien y tu
[16:25] <backbox> de donde eres_
[16:25] <Z4sk4> madrid
[16:26] <backbox> ok
[16:26] <Z4sk4> lguien sabe como bajarse una BD de mysql por fechas?, es decir, de tal fecha esta que haya datos en la tabla, sacamelos x.sql
[16:26] <Z4sk4> t?
[16:26] <backbox> eres esperto
[16:26] <backbox> _
[16:27] <Z4sk4> experto de que backbox ?
[16:27] <backbox> en programacion
[16:27] <Z4sk4> depende de que lenguage.... pero nunca se es experto, siempre hay cosas y cosas nuevas
[16:28] <backbox> ok novato
[16:28] <Z4sk4> backbox, jajaja no faltes el respeto, no sabes con quien hablas
[16:29] <Z4sk4> que pasa vas de fliper truper por llevar el nombre de una distro de pentesting?
[16:30] <backbox> no
[16:30] <backbox> eso es que estoy probando el distro
[16:31] <backbox> que system usas
[16:31] <Z4sk4> por que n0o pruebas bugtraq que es Español
[16:31] <backbox> eso es un systema
[16:35] <Z4sk4> mas que sistemas, es una distro
[16:35] <Z4sk4> o varias distro
[16:35] <Z4sk4> si no recuerdo mal puedes elegir entre Suse, ubuntu y debian
[16:35] <backbox> ok
[16:35] <Z4sk4> xfce, kde y gnome
[16:35] <Z4sk4> recomiendan la xfce
[16:35] <backbox> la estoy descargando en unos minutos baja
[16:36] <backbox> tu programas en linux o windows_
[16:40] <Z4sk4> ambos
[16:42] <backbox> ok
[16:43] <backbox> tu usas mysql
[16:58] <yelowhat> hola
[16:58] <Z4sk4> prefiero no usarlo
[16:58] <Z4sk4> buenas
[23:19] <Alejandro22> ubuntu, lo mas parecido a wnds
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[14:29] <mikeputnam> ohai new kernel
[14:42] <h00k> ohai
[14:43] <h00k> mikeputnam: gh-pages becomes master and does the page
[14:43] <h00k> mikeputnam: that's where I'm doing http://hookedonus.com
[14:44] <h00k> mikeputnam: https://github.com/anthonyrhook/hookedonus/tree/gh-pages/
[14:57] <h00k> win 10
[15:01] <mikeputnam> ubuntu 14
[15:01] <mikeputnam> (thx)
[20:58] <ronoc_work> has anyone used ubuntu with a touchscreen only device like a tablet PC?
[20:59] <ronoc_work> I was recently gifted one of these guys: http://amzn.to/1MChyXK
[21:00] <ronoc_work> and I have 14 on it, it works, but the on screen keyboard is slow and makes me want to have it never lock the screen
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[08:09] <gennadiy> hi all, i have to use juju-reboot command in the end of install hook. but i got error - juju.worker.uniter.context context.go:559 updating agent status: cannot set invalid status "rebooting"
[08:09] <gennadiy> in the log file
[08:09] <gennadiy> is it ok?
[08:10] <jam> gennadiy: that sounds more like you are calling "status-set rebooting" before you call "juju-reboot". Is that true?
[08:10] <gennadiy> no
[08:10] <jam> the syntax for status-set would be: status-set maintenance "rebooting"
[08:10] <gennadiy> i think this command tries to setup it
[08:11] <jam> hm, nm, it does look like rebooting is one of the status codes
[08:11] <jam> gennadiy:
[08:11] <jam> sorry, can you do "juju status" and pastebin it?
[08:11] <gennadiy> also if you try to use `juju-reboot -now` - install process will be infinite
[08:12] <jam> It sounds like there might be a version mismatche.
[08:12] <gennadiy> juju version - 1.25.0-trusty-amd64
[08:13] <gennadiy> currently juju status of my service is started. but i see the error in log of unit
[08:14] <gennadiy> 2015-11-05 08:07:49 ERROR juju.worker.uniter.context context.go:559 updating agent status: cannot set invalid status "rebooting" 2015-11-05 08:07:49 ERROR juju.worker.uniter.filter filter.go:137 tomb: dying 2015-11-05 08:07:49 ERROR juju.worker runner.go:212 fatal "uniter": machine needs to reboot 2015-11-05 08:07:49 ERROR juju.api.watcher watcher.go:84 error trying to stop watcher: connection is shut down 2015-11-05 08:07:49 ERROR juju.api.watcher watcher.g
[08:15] <gennadiy> it's agent.conf grom machine
[08:16] <gennadiy> tag: machine-162 datadir: /var/lib/juju logdir: /var/log/juju nonce: machine-0:3538ecd9-69aa-4c7f-840f-77857c0dc303 jobs: - JobHostUnits upgradedToVersion: 1.24.6
[08:16] <gennadiy> seems we use different version of juju master and juju agents
[08:16] <gennadiy> am i right?
[09:23] <gnuoy> jamespage, fwiw I can't create the openvswitch-odl to neutron-gateway relationship with standard amulet, amulet refuses to create a relation when the interface isn't specified and juju refuses to create a relation when the interface is specified on both sides if that interface is juju-info
[11:58] <sto> I'm trying to deploy openstack liberty with juju and my installation is unable to finish because I can't configure keystone... my problem is the same as the one described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/keystone/+bug/1509382
[11:58] <mup> Bug #1509382: shared-db-relation-changed hook failure, unable to establish connection http://localhost:35347/v2.0/tenants <oil> <keystone (Juju Charms Collection):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509382>
[11:58] <sto> Any hints?
[15:34] <matt_dupre> Hi - I'm working on some OpenStack charms, and I've got a problem with the nova-compute charm where I'm not sure what the right solution is
[15:37] <matt_dupre> I need to install nova-api-metadata (in another charm), but the neutron_plugin_changed hook on nova-compute is purging it when metadata-shared-secret isn't set
[15:43] <firl> anyone on that knows how to set the http proxy for apt with maas 1.8?
[15:50] <lazypower> matt_dupre: this sounds systemic with managing config in the wrong charm. Are you sending the data you need over the neutron_plugin interface so it can be rendered?
[15:51] <lazypower> matt_dupre: if not, can you send a quick mail to the list that I can direct the OpenStack charmers team at to follow up on? I know that most of the openstack charms manage the config files so there's no conditions like you're outlining above, where nova is wiping your plugin config
[16:07] <lazypower> actually matt_dupre - a bug would be best
[16:07] <lazypower> matt_dupre - https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/nova-compute/+filebug
[16:10] <matt_dupre> lazypower: Thanks - can I just check exactly what you think is wrong?
[16:10] <matt_dupre> I'm still trying to figure out exactly which components have responsibility for which bits of metadata
[16:11] <lazypower> matt_dupre There's nova-api/neutron-api interfaces to send config data over, so the openstack charm in question manages that template file
[16:11] <lazypower> if it doesn't get the bits it needs to manage, it will overwrite anything you do in your subordinate, when it re-runs its template generator
[16:41] <lazypower> stokachu i'm moving us here, as we're talking about some stuff that the public will find interesting (hopefully) - looking @ interface layers, and writing reactive charms
[16:42] <stokachu> lazypower: ok cool
[16:43] <stokachu> going to try and reproduce the add-unit issue with global relation scope
[16:43] <gennadiy> hi all, i know if we try to deploy bundle by juju-gui it will not expose services(juju gui ignore expose: true). a few days ago it was confirmed in this channel too. but i can't find link to this bug. can somebody help me with this?
[16:45] <lazypower> o/ gennadiy
[16:46] <lazypower> gennadiy: it doesn't appear that it was filed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui?field.searchtext=expose
[16:48] <lazypower> stokachu cory_fu - so for reference, we're talking about https://pythonhosted.org/charms.reactive/charms.reactive.relations.html#charms.reactive.relations.scopes
stokachu: Regardless of the scope, handlers on each unit should still fire. Also, handlers should still fire for each unit that's added to the conversation, though the data on the conversation may not change (and if the interface layer or handlers skip on no change, they could be filtered out that way)
[16:50] <stokachu> cory_fu: ok, im going to try to reproduce this on a clean environment
[16:50] <stokachu> i was getting install hook failures because my nodejs event wasn't being acted on
[16:51] <cory_fu> Right. Conversation scopes are only about how the units data are grouped and not how handlers are triggered.
[16:51] <stokachu> so something else is going on?
[16:51] <lazypower> ah, cory_fu - i thought you could negate some of the bheavior with scopes
[16:51] <lazypower> my mistake
[16:58] <cory_fu> Conversation scopes are definitely confusing. Each state set by an interface layer is associated with a conversation. The conversation can include one or more related units. When a state handler is triggered, the Relation class contains a list of all the conversations that the state applies to, and each conversation has a list of related units that it includes. Any data sent out to a conversation has the same data sent to all related units, and
[16:58] <cory_fu> the data coming in from a conversation is aggregated across all units (expected to be the same, or not set for all but one of the units)
[17:01] <lazypower> cory_fu : we need you + a white board + video/audio feed
[17:01] <cory_fu> The idea is that the relation is a two-way evolving conversation between the two endpoints. And different units can be at different stages of the conversation. But sometimes it makes sense to group units of a service into a single conversation. And sometimes you fully expect to only be having a single conversation.
[17:01] <lazypower> Very true And I like that we now have sopes for relation conversations
[17:02] <lazypower> having an illustration of what units are participating, and how, would be helpful to illustrate the scopes
[17:03] <cory_fu> One important point to note is that conversations are about the communication protocol, and thus should be entirely handled by the Relation class in the interface layer. They should *never* be exposed outside of the interface layer.
[17:03] <lazypower> Right, at that oint you're only working with a databag that has the data points
[17:03] <lazypower> or is waiting to receive the data points to relay over the wire
[17:08] <cory_fu> To the charm layers, i.e., the state handlers, the Relation class should provide a meaningful API. So you should be able to ask it things like "What databases are being requested and by whom" or "What datanodes are currently registered"
[17:09] <stokachu> ok looks like i can't reproduce the add-unit issue
[17:09] <stokachu> so far all units are handling my nodejs reaction properly
[17:11] <cory_fu> stokachu: What layers is this involving?
[17:11] <stokachu> cory_fu: includes: ['layer:basic', 'layer:nodejs', 'layer:nginx', 'interface:mysql']
[17:12] <stokachu> cory_fu: and this https://github.com/battlemidget/juju-layer-ghost/blob/master/reactive/ghost.py
[17:12] <stokachu> is the top level one
[17:16] <cory_fu> stokachu: Which handler were you seeing not trigger?
[17:16] <cory_fu> And what were you doing an add-unit on? The ghost charm?
[17:16] <stokachu> cory_fu: well it looks like it is triggering on this run, but my upstart service is in a infinite loop
[17:16] <stokachu> cory_fu: yea add-unit -n 3 ghost
[17:16] <stokachu> the nodejs.install_runtime wasn't being called on my previous deploy
[17:17] <stokachu> and node wasn't available
[17:29] <cory_fu> stokachu: I'm a little confused by how the nodejs and nginx layers are structured. Is there ever a case where you would be using those layers but not want nginx or nodejs installed?
[17:30] <stokachu> cory_fu: dont quite follow
[17:31] <cory_fu> The point of these layers is to provide nginx and nodejs. Why do you have them blocking install until the lower layer explicitly requests it?
[17:32] <cory_fu> I would expect each of those layers to just handle the install hook and install the software.
[17:32] <stokachu> i was having issues where the install hook was being requested in a loop
[17:33] <stokachu> so i put the install hooks in the topmost (ghost) layer
[17:33] <stokachu> and just left reactive states in the other layers
[17:33] <stokachu> also if i have an install hook in the nginx layer and an install hook in the ghost layer
[17:34] <stokachu> how will they react?
[17:34] <cory_fu> As long as you're using charms.reactive.hook in a file under reactive/, they should work together just fine, though you won't be able to determine which runs first
[17:35] <stokachu> so that's my problem as ghost was running prior to nginx install hook
[17:35] <cory_fu> Also, a given @hook block should only get called once per Juju hook invocation
[17:35] <stokachu> so if i have 2 install hooks in 2 seperate layers does that count as 1 juju hook invocation?
[17:37] <stokachu> without being able to call install hooks for each layer seperately i can't build on the previous layer
[17:37] <stokachu> so i have to rely on calling out reactive states
[17:38] <cory_fu> @hook handlers are just like state handlers, except that they run before any state handlers.
[17:38] <cory_fu> You can have multiple, from any layers, and they will all be called
[17:38] <stokachu> but if my ghost hook handler runs before the nginx one
[17:38] <stokachu> how will i know when nginx.available is set
[17:39] <cory_fu> In general, you probably don't want to have @hook handlers in your charm layer, with the exception of config-changed
[17:39] <cory_fu> You just want to have a @when('nginx.available')
[17:39] <stokachu> so my charm layer being ghost?
[17:39] <cory_fu> Right
[17:39] <stokachu> and what about nginx layer
[17:39] <stokachu> that has the install hook?
[17:40] <cory_fu> Sure. As can the nodejs layer
[17:40] <stokachu> ok lemme try that
[17:40] <cory_fu> Have you looked at how I did the apache-php layer? https://github.com/johnsca/apache-php
[17:40] <stokachu> yea that's what i was basing it off of
[17:40] <stokachu> but i was hitting problems as described above
[17:41] <stokachu> things firing and reinstalling the ghost application ina loop etc
[17:41] <cory_fu> My guess is that you need to add a @when_not('ghost.installed') or @only_once to prevent that
[17:41] <stokachu> ah ok
[17:42] <stokachu> cory_fu: one last thing, can i have 2 seperate @when decorators for a single method
[17:42] <stokachu> to reprenset or?
[17:42] <cory_fu> Because state handlers will get re-run every time if their conditions are met.
[17:42] <cory_fu> You can, but it's always and. There's no way to say @when(A or B) :(
[17:43] <stokachu> ok that may be a nice feature to request
[17:43] <cory_fu> I'll probably be adding a @when_any
[17:43] <stokachu> cory_fu: and are conditions persisted
[17:43] <cory_fu> stokachu: Yes, states are persisted until being removed. This is so that states set by relations are persisted until all required relation states are met
[17:44] <cory_fu> You can remove a state at any time, though, with remove_state. But a given layer should only remove states that it set
[17:44] <stokachu> ok makes sense
[17:44] <stokachu> that may be my problem to with things running in a loop
[17:44] <cory_fu> (Or that it is using as a communication channel, possibly)
[17:45] <stokachu> so if i run juju deploy, juju upgrade-charm
[17:45] <stokachu> any state that isn't removed is persisted
[17:45] <stokachu> ?
[17:45] <cory_fu> Yes
[17:45] <stokachu> ok good to know, is that documented?
[17:45] <stokachu> i may file a bug on it
[17:54] <jcastro> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfzoBSPiWHfP96qjEEawO6jFVkMeJg1WPdT6LbMApFNuQEvMA?hl=en&authuser=0
[17:54] <jcastro> we're having an office hours in 5 minutes if anyone wants to join!
[17:55] <cory_fu> stokachu: I guess it's not explicitly called out, no
[18:31] <dweaver> marcoceppi_, where were all the benchmarking charms you used in the demo, e.g. siege, collector?
[18:33] <lazypower> dweaver - here's the siege charm itself - https://github.com/juju-solutions/siege
[18:34] <dweaver> lazypower, thanks
[18:34] <lazypower> dweaver - The collector + gui for benchmark ui (bui) - will be released soon. I'm sure we will announce to the list when that happens
[19:08] <urthmover> bootstrapping juju errors out with "/var/lib/juju/tools/1.25.0-trusty-amd64/tools.tar.gz: No such file or directory\nERROR failed to bootstrap environment: subprocess encountered error code 1" http://paste.ubuntu.com/13114841/
[19:08] <urthmover> Can anyone help me with this issue?
[19:12] <stokachu> urthmover: (7) Failed to connect to streams.canonical.com port 443: Connection timed out\ntools from https://streams.canonical.com/juju/tools/releases/juju-1.25.0-trusty-amd64.tgz
[19:12] <stokachu> make sure you've setup networking properly for MAAS
[19:12] <stokachu> a common problem is not enabling IP Forwarding on the MAAS server
[19:13] <stokachu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenStack/Installer/debugging/multi-install
[19:13] <urthmover> stokachu: thank you...checking
[19:37] <urthmover> stokachu: I'm applied that nat'ing retrying the juju bootstrapping. Is there a way to test if it's working properly before I wait around for the install to finish?
[19:38] <stokachu> urthmover: you can do a simple juju boostrap outside of the installer
[19:38] <stokachu> urthmover: https://jujucharms.com/docs/1.25/config-maas
[19:38] <urthmover> stokachu: ok...(looking up that syntax)
[19:38] <urthmover> stokachu: awesome thanks for the link
[19:38] <stokachu> np
[19:38] <stokachu> run juju boostrap --debug
[19:45] <stokachu> cory_fu: you mind doing a quick lookover my two layers, https://github.com/battlemidget/juju-layer-nginx and https://github.com/battlemidget/juju-layer-node
[19:45] <stokachu> i did some refactoring
[19:45] <cory_fu> Sure
[19:48] <stokachu> cory_fu: i also updated https://github.com/battlemidget/juju-layer-ghost/blob/master/reactive/ghost.py to make use of the 2 emitted states from nginx and nodejs
[19:48] <stokachu> but it doesn't seem to be firing, the config-changed hook is run for the ghost charm though
[19:48] <urthmover> stokachu: dude you're a genius....I think it' just went farther....scheeeet
[19:49] <urthmover> schWeeeet
[19:49] <stokachu> urthmover: haha
[19:49] <urthmover> :)
[19:49] <cory_fu> stokachu: Your nodejs layer is setting 'nodejs.available' but your ghost layer is looking for 'nodejs.installed'
[19:49] <stokachu> urthmover: if that works then you can destroy the environment and re-run the installer
[19:49] <stokachu> cory_fu: crap
[19:50] <cory_fu> But otherwise it looks really good
[19:50] <urthmover> stokachu: actually this is re-running the installer......goes pretty fast cause it's all on a local vmware workstation instance (locally)
[19:50] <stokachu> cory_fu: ok cool thanks :)
[19:50] <cory_fu> Although
[19:50] <urthmover> stokachu: the only goofy part (as I test this) is I have to manually start the machines...cause wakeonlan doesn't work right
[19:50] <cory_fu> You also need to add a state to indicate that ghost is installed, or add @only_once to the install handler
[19:51] <stokachu> cory_fu: so https://github.com/battlemidget/juju-layer-ghost/blob/master/reactive/ghost.py#L49 add @only_once decorator additionally?
[19:51] <cory_fu> Yep
[19:51] <stokachu> ok cool
[19:52] <stokachu> cory_fu: do you have any example on using only_once?
[19:53] <stokachu> urthmover: yea that sucks, if you use straight bare metal with KVM it supports virsh so you don't have to manually power on/off those vm's
[19:53] <stokachu> assuming you aren't on awindows machine
[19:56] <stokachu> cory_fu: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13115254/
[19:56] <stokachu> ?
[19:57] <urthmover> stokachu: Here;s a highler level question for you then, I use a vmware cluster that is controlled by a hosting provider. I have fullish vcenter access, but not api or cli access. I'm able to build guests at will. How would you reccomend I build out this environment to support openstack and containers(docker, rkt)?
[19:59] <stokachu> urthmover: so MAAS supports VMware as a power type so that may be your best bet for utilizing that
[19:59] <urthmover> stokachu: my only mission is to support self contained *nix "server/containers" so that developers can have root install their software, run their apps, and probably break'm often. I'm trying to move away from monolithic web servers that I'm not willing to give up root access
[19:59] <stokachu> as for the layout just make sure your VMS have 2 disks and 2 nics
[20:00] <stokachu> i think autopilot is a minimum of 5-6 servers all having 2 disks and 2nics
[20:00] <urthmover> stokachu: from what little that I've read though, you need cli or api access to control vmware from maas
[20:00] <stokachu> urthmover: sec lemme ask
[20:01] <urthmover> stokachu: if building a case to request this from the hosting provider is necessary to gain cli/api access, I'm willing to do that, but the process is long and turn around on those changes take months with this big stupid provider
[20:01] <urthmover> stokachu: thank you
[20:02] <urthmover> stokachu: I'm not opposed to keeping all the time if that makes a difference
[20:03] <cory_fu> stokachu: Yep!
[20:03] <stokachu> cory_fu: perfect thanks
[20:03] <stokachu> urthmover: so far maas supports vmware workstations, esxi
[20:03] <stokachu> urthmover: im still waiting on what is supported vcenter wise
[20:04] <stokachu> and what the requirements are (if its only cli atm)
[20:04] <urthmover> stokachu: ok
[20:04] <urthmover> stokachu: perfect..thank you very much for asking
[20:05] <urthmover> stokachu: I joined #juju-dev thinking maybe the conversation is in there
[20:05] <stokachu> urthmover: nah you want #maas
[20:05] <urthmover> stokachu: ok cool I'll jump in there
[20:05] <stokachu> and montpillo is the guy who knows
[20:06] <urthmover> stokachu: I'll watch for him to speak up thank you a bunch for your help thus far
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[00:49] <xubuntu57i> hi
[01:11] <bisby> I have a Samsung Series 7 Chronos, in Ubuntu 15.04, brightness worked no questions asked out of the box. In xubuntu 15.10, I see the slider move and the values in /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/{brightness,max_brightness,actual_brightness} all change. Ive done several grub cmdline tweaks. Nothing seems to work. Is there any issues with laptop brightness in 15.10?
[02:22] <xubuntu01w> hello
[03:05] <administrator> hello?
[03:05] <Guest67171> can someone help me please. Im new to linux/ubuntu
[03:05] <Guest67171> im having issues with graphics
[04:07] <Spass_> hi, I have problem with copy&paste (by key shortcuts) in Thunar in 15.10, is this a known issue?
[04:09] <Spass_> cut&paste to be exact
[04:14] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Spass_: does this look like what you're experiencing?
[04:14] <JohnnyComeL8ly> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11450#c108
[04:21] <Spass_> yes similar, but I get something like this http://pastebin.com/GCUz2dsW
[04:23] <Spass_> now I use Thunar 1.6.10, on xubuntu 15.04 I did't have this problem
[04:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm using the same version, let me try to replicate this issue.
[04:29] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Spass_, I just copied, using ^C and ^V, a 227 byte Minetest debug.txt
[04:29] <JohnnyComeL8ly> What size of file are you using?
[04:29] <Spass_> I think it crashes mostly when Cut
[04:30] <Spass_> when using keyboard shortcuts
[04:30] <Spass_> file is about 200kB
[04:31] <Spass_> it's a PDF with thumbnail
[04:32] <Spass_> sometimes it works ok, but it crashes very often
[04:33] <Spass_> and although it crashes, the file is moved correctly
[04:38] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I just did a cut (GUI) and paste (keyboard)
[04:44] <Spass_> on freshly opened window try cut (keyboard) and paste (keyboard)
[04:45] <Spass_> it almost always crashes in my case
[04:46] <JohnnyComeL8ly> What is the shortcut for cut?
[04:46] <Spass_> ctrl+x
[04:46] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Thx.
[04:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> No crashes.
[04:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I have a 226.4 kB png
[04:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Close enough, I'm thinking.
[04:47] <Spass_> it must be something specific to my configuration then
[04:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Did you do a fresh install of Xubuntu 15.10 ?
[04:48] <Spass_> well, I can live with that :)
[04:48] <Spass_> nope, I've upgraded from 15.04
[04:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> VannessaE on #minetest was telling me she had issues when she upgraded.
[04:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I've not noticed any issues, but it is just a point for consideration.
[04:49] <Spass_> I'm thinking about fresh install, because I sterted with Ubuntu, then I installed Xubuntu desktop, then upgraded to 15.10, so...
[04:50] <Spass_> *started
[04:50] <Spass_> it's a mess under the hood I think :/
[04:54] <Spass_> ok, I'll keep an eye on this problem, maybe I will learn something new. With fresh install I'll wait till new LTS
[04:54] <Spass_> thanks for help and testing Johnny
[04:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You are welcome. Goodnight. :-)
[04:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Yeah, a mess is what I'm thinking you have.
[04:57] <Spass_> sad but true :)
[12:32] <Multivac3> anybody out there?
[12:32] <flocculant> !ask | Multivac3
[12:33] <Multivac3> anybody had problems with the AMD Radeon drivers in xfce
[12:34] <knome> Multivac3, just describe your own problem...
[12:35] <Multivac3> seems after installing the oem drivers they fall over on reboot
[15:18] <w30> How do you get xrdp (graphic login) working for rdesktop? remote desktop.
[15:20] <w30> all the icons are in /usr/share/xrdp but no avail. xrdp is inabled as a service, what else needs to be done?
[15:42] <Walliski> What is the problem?
[15:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> w30: ^^
[15:43] <w30> Walliski, I don't get the xrdp login gui in rdesktop with xrdp installed
[15:45] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I only tried once to do all that stuff... I didn't succeed.
[15:45] <w30> a gui box with password and user name places
[15:46] <w30> there is a couple of utube videos that shows it working but not how...
[15:46] <JohnnyComeL8ly> But, that's where I failed.... You have to suck and suck and suck until you suck-a-seed (succeed).
[15:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Yeah, those people aren't very helpful.
[15:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I got that from a farmer (Joel Salatin), who got it from his dad.
[15:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> that=saying
[15:48] <w30> yeah, vaccuum cleaners suck also but they are supposed to
[15:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> lol
[15:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> We aren't supposed to when configuring programs - gotcha.
[15:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> ;-)
[15:50] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I think it happens to everyone a few times (a week maybe?) depending on how treacherous the digital slope of accomplishment is.
[15:53] <w30> a billion lines of code can't all be right.
[15:53] <w30> gotta have a few turds laying around.
[15:53] <JohnnyComeL8ly> rofl
[15:54] <w30> any way; I hope someone fixes it.
[15:55] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Idk what exactly you are experiencing, so theirs an even slimmer chance that a dev (who hasn't time for vague issues) to fix *it*.
[15:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> (You haven't really given much to work with.)
[15:59] <w30> xrdp is supposed to launch a window inside the rdesktop window to graphically present a user and password type in box to send rdesktop to the correct computer. rdesktop itself accepts -u <user> and -p <password> flags on the command line invokation.
[16:01] <w30> rdesktop works as advertised, it's the xrdp that does not appear in the remote desktop box if you don't put in the flags.
[16:03] <w30> http://imgur.com/33pnTAG
[16:08] <w30> it's the grey box that needs to appear if xrdp daemon is running. (I think)
[16:09] <w30> the picture is a utube user, not me.
[17:06] <JohnnyComeL8ly> w30, I was gonna say, looks like it is working, but then I read further. I don't know much about that. You should see if there is a remote desktop focused channel, or go to #xrdp on freenode (same network)
[17:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> w30: Dude, join #xrdp
[17:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I can't help you more than that.
[17:08] <Baromor> Hello :) I'd need some help if possible
[17:10] <Baromor> I wanted to try out Linux out of curiosity (always been a Windows user) so I booted Xubuntu on a virtual disk drive. Is it normal I only have one screen resolution available? When I tpe Xrandr it only shows "
[17:10] <Baromor> "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480"
[17:11] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Baromor: I'm not sure but it sounds like you're using a VM, is that right?
[17:51] <xubuntu94d> hi
[17:51] <xubuntu94d> is this telepathy chat ?
[17:53] <flocculant> !ask | xubuntu94d
[17:53] <xubuntu94d> how do I tell which xubuntu is on my computer?
[17:55] <flocculant> lsb_release -r in a terminal, help from the menu will tell you what help files you have - that should tell you too
[17:55] <xubuntu94d> thank you
[17:57] <xubuntu94d> ok it says 15;10, is that the most recent xubuntu ?
[17:57] <krytarik> !15.10
[17:58] <xubuntu94d> thanks again and have a great day
[18:15] <knob> Hey guys. I want to add an internal hdd to my machine. I am using full-disk encryption on the main hdd. Can somebody provide some direction as to how to add a full-disk encrypted hdd?
[18:19] <kozukumi> hello, i have an issue with wifi not working after resuming from suspend (15.10). a copy of journalctl is here http://pastebin.com/2Ndc3W70
[18:40] <knob> Hello again... referencing the above question (full disk-encryption for an additional hdd). Is it possible to enter the key at system startup?
[18:41] <JohnnyComeL8ly> kozukumi: it looks like you might have turned off your WiFi through a switch on the side of your PC... maybe check rfkill list wifi for whether or not it is blocked. Soft block is software blocking, and hard block is a physical switch you can toggle.
[18:41] <knob> Like the current OS' full disk-encryption setup?
[18:41] <JohnnyComeL8ly> knob, I haven't done anythink like that.
[18:42] <knob> JohnnyComeL8ly, thanks. I ask because on the inital Xubuntu setup, I did full-disk encrpt. And all is good. Yet now I want to add an internal hdd to the machine, yet have it encrypted. Not sure how to go about it.
[18:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[18:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> knob, that might help.
[18:43] <knob> On my way... thanks JohnnyComeL8ly !
[18:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You might have to change it a bit. You're welcome!
[18:55] <kozukumi> why do i not have permission to delete items in menulibre?
[18:56] <kozukumi> i cant find a way to edit the menu to my liking??
[19:13] <kozukumi> i cant for the life of me work out how to edit the damn application menu :(
[19:13] <flocculant> was just looking at that kozukumi
[19:13] <kozukumi> im so confused lol
[19:14] <flocculant> not going to be able to answer why you can't delete items - at least you can delete ones you created, just not others
[19:14] <kozukumi> yup
[19:14] <flocculant> mmm
[19:15] <flocculant> it won't run as root - it does appear to let you delete items IF you move them first
[19:16] <flocculant> nope
[19:16] <kozukumi> a bug?
[19:18] <flocculant> perhaps so - report it ubuntu-bug menulibre and link me it
[19:19] <kozukumi> ubuntu-bug?
[19:19] <kozukumi> a site?
[19:20] <flocculant> sorry - run that in a terminal, it collects what's needed then starts launchpad in browser
[19:20] <flocculant> then once it has finished processing things - you can fill in details
[19:21] <kozukumi> ok doing it
[19:23] <kozukumi> processing on the website
[19:25] <kozukumi> flocculant, sent you a dm
[19:26] <flocculant> yep - not a problem linking bug numbers in here :)
[19:27] <flocculant> ok - added a couple of tags and confirmed it
[19:29] <flocculant> and a comment
[19:29] <flocculant> kozukumi: thanks for reporting it :)
[19:29] <kozukumi> thanks for helping me :)
[19:29] <kozukumi> i am LOVING xubuntu btw
[19:30] <flocculant> \o/
[19:34] <krytarik> kozukumi, flocculant: This? - https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=33094#p33094
[19:34] <flocculant> krytarik: I know you can hide things :)
[19:36] <flocculant> kozukumi might not - and I might have been a bit literal in answering ;)
[19:41] <kozukumi> yeah it just seems so buggy. i have sublime text installed and it is in the development group but i want to move it to office, which i have done, but it doesnt change groups??
[19:42] <kozukumi> but it DOES change the application menu in the right click on desktop menu
[19:42] <kozukumi> ???
[19:43] <flocculant> kozukumi: go to the entry for sublime in dev group - in the bottom right pane - select dev and then remove with the - button
[19:44] <kozukumi> i did that, it comes back when i press save
[19:44] <kozukumi> lol
[19:44] <flocculant> then with the + button- double click on the new Select a category > select office >office then save
[19:45] <kozukumi> did that, doesnt appear
[19:45] <kozukumi> i will try logging out and in and see if that does anything
[19:45] <knome> kozukumi, see the bug, i commented there, unaware that you were talking about it here
[19:45] <knome> if you can answer those questions, it might help with debugging
[19:45] <flocculant> I just moved geany out of dev into system - out of system into dev - and it moved every time
[19:45] <flocculant> bah - gone ...
[19:45] <knome> kozukumi, see the bug, i commented there, unaware that you were talking about it here
[19:46] <kozukumi> omg logout fixed it
[19:46] <knome> if you can answer those questions, it might help with debugging
[19:46] <knome> aha
[19:46] <flocculant> I just moved geany out of dev into system - out of system into dev - and it moved every time
[19:46] <flocculant> without logging out :p
[19:46] <flocculant> knome: bug 1444668 ?
[19:47] <flocculant> because you commented there - but not here :p
[19:47] <flocculant> still the not being able to delete an entry remains - might be by design ofc
[19:47] <knome> flocculant, the reason why i thought this was known originally was bug 1307002
[19:48] <knome> no, you should always be able to remove an entry
[19:48] <flocculant> I did see that pme
[19:48] <flocculant> sigh s/pme/one
[19:48] <knome> though on some occasions "deleting" might mean creating a .desktop file that overrides the system one, efficiently just hiding the item...
[19:48] <flocculant> effectively
[19:49] <knome> flocculant, bug 1513590
[19:49] <knome> yes, effectively...
[19:49] <flocculant> thought so - just making sure
[19:49] <flocculant> knome: yea - that's the bug kozukumi just created and I commented on :)
[19:49] <kozukumi> right im gonna test my wifi suspend issue now
[19:49] <kozukumi> cheers all, i will be back :)
[19:49] <knome> flocculant, and i then commented on it
[19:50] <flocculant> oh - didn't look :p
[19:50] <knome> kozukumi, would help if you commented on the bug that logging out helped workaround the bug
[19:50] <knome> if you didn't already..
[19:50] <kozukumi> yeah i will update in a minute
[19:50] <knome> thanks
[19:51] <knome> also if you can answer my questions on the comments, great
[19:51] <flocculant> commented
[19:51] <kozukumi> ah good looks like i managed to fix the suspend bug :)
[19:52] <kozukumi> god i love how fast this thing boots :)
[23:04] <xubuntu10w> hey folks, tech support okay on this channel? I've got a minor issue with 15.10
[23:05] <pleia2> xubuntu10w: yes, that's what this channel is for :) ask away!
[23:06] <xubuntu10w> Cool! Im having an issue I believe is related to light-dm. On bootup, after being greeted by the login prompt, my screen blinks a few times. Havnt noticed it anywhere else in the OS.
[23:07] <xubuntu10w> I've tested on multiple hardware configurations and multiple installs. Issue persists.
[23:13] <knome> xubuntu10w, so... does it just blink and then work as expected?
[23:14] <xubuntu10w> yeah, the real issue is it usually happens while inputing my password. It seems to inturrupt input so I have to reinput my password. Not a big deal but pretty annoying.
[23:15] <knome> are you using a proprietary driver for your graphics card?
[23:16] <xubuntu10w> Nope, just whataver xubuntu pulls down for intel hd 4000.
[23:17] <xubuntu10w> Other hardware I tried it on all had intel graphics as well.
[23:18] <xubuntu73w> sorry , I disconnect there.
[23:18] <xubuntu73w> *disconnected
[23:19] <xubuntu73w> I looked into downgrading light-dm but it looks like a nightmare.
[23:21] <knome> xubuntu10w, does the blinking happen fast after you see the login screen and does it take a lot of time?
[23:21] <knome> or is it like instant
[23:22] <xubuntu73w> It varies. Usually about a second or two after login appears and about 1 second in duration.
[23:22] <knome> weird
[23:23] <xubuntu73w> Somtimes the screen simply turns off and back on quickly and somtimes it flashes twice.
[23:23] <knome> maybe you should file a bug
[23:24] <xubuntu73w> Thats where I was headed next. Im a total newbie though. Where exactly on launchpad does that go?
[23:25] <knome> once you've registered a launchpad account, the easiest way to start filing the bug is to run "ubuntu-bug lightm" in the terminal
[23:26] <xubuntu73w> Ok cool, thats what I figured but I wasnt sure if xubuntu had a specific spot or if it all fell under the ubuntu flag. Thats really neat you can open from terminal. Thanks for the help.
[23:27] <knome> with bug reporting, it's all the same
[23:27] <knome> and no problem :)
[23:36] <xubuntu73w> Bug related to login screen flicker filed here for anyone interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1513662
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[00:08] <daftykins> hmm CRMs seem like what folk bring into businesses because they think it'll help, but really it's just a massive cash earning exercise for someone else
[00:09] <diddledan> hey Cortana, google for Siri on Bing
[00:10] <mapps> siri sucks
[00:10] <mapps> i never used it really
[00:10] <diddledan> her*
[00:10] <diddledan> Siri is not an "it"
[00:11] <diddledan> she's a foxy laday
[00:11] <mapps> heh
[00:11] <daftykins> that's just siri... er i mean silly
[00:30] <diddledan> dear lord this is purest evil: http://twitchintheshell.com/
[00:32] <daftykins> yeah i heard some gentoo folk tried to take over
[00:32] <mapps> hm
[00:34] <daftykins> i see the twitch feed is as stable as an Arch update ;D
[00:35] <mapps> its done now isnt it
[00:36] <mapps> the stream was relentless lol nonstop commands
[00:36] <daftykins> nope that's just booting the live installer ;)
[00:37] <mapps> oh
[00:37] <mapps> so whats it doing now
[00:39] <daftykins> dunno, closed it already - total waste of time :)
[00:42] <daftykins> i got sent three invites for the oneplus 2 phone, if anyone wants one
[00:42] <diddledan> the 3?
[00:42] <diddledan> three invites for the 3?
[00:42] <daftykins> very funny
[00:43] <diddledan> I don't want one :-p
[00:44] <diddledan> I'm hungry
[00:46] <mapps> ;]
[00:46] <mapps> hm might watch 2nd maze runner
[00:47] <daftykins> https://oneplus.net/2 <-- anyway 3 invites for that if anyone is interested
[00:49] * diddledan eats cake
[01:47] <diddledan> so it looks like vim is getting forked? https://github.com/neovim/neovim
[03:49] <mapps> hmm
[03:49] <mapps> whos up
[03:51] <mapps> noone
[03:51] <mapps> ]
[03:51] <mapps> :D
[03:54] <daftykins> \o
[03:54] <daftykins> 97% on the intro to Linux course on edx.org XD
[03:55] <mapps> aha cool
[03:55] <mapps> i did it before, unless it changed?
[03:56] <daftykins> well it did become version 2 at the start of 2015 i think
[03:56] <daftykins> i hadn't been back since i was in hospital.
[03:56] <daftykins> i didn't even finish the content XD just decided to give it a go now and only got one question wrong
[03:57] <mapps> heh
[03:57] <mapps> :D
[03:57] <mapps> im watching walking dead
[04:05] <mapps> episode of the league yay
[04:06] <daftykins> you and your TV
[04:06] <mapps> criminal minds and the league for me this morning
[04:06] <mapps> catching up on walking dead..not watched any of new season
[04:07] <mapps> also need to watch ...need aka want to , watch maze runner 2
[04:07] <mapps> you not watch much?
[04:08] <daftykins> i've got a few on the go at the moment but i'm at the point where i don't even rush to check i'm up to date
[04:08] <daftykins> Fargo season 2 :)
[04:11] <mapps> ahhh yea im an ep behind
[04:11] <mapps> need to watch e3..u seen?
[04:11] <mapps> i take it you watched s1 fargo
[04:12] <daftykins> i think i spotted 4 on my server earlier
[04:12] <daftykins> yeah
[04:19] <mapps> ;]
[04:27] <mapps> cut my toe ;/ caught it on side of cooker
[04:51] <mapps> the legue's so funny
[05:01] <daftykins> ouch!
[05:01] <daftykins> 5am zmoylan-1i ;)
[05:23] <mapps> 5am what
[05:32] <mapps> ?
[05:36] <daftykins> huh?
[05:36] <daftykins> had some disks to unplug :> six to be precise!
ouch!
5am zmoylan-1i ;)
[05:37] <mapps> what did that mean heh
[05:38] <daftykins> he reboots @ 5
[05:39] <mapps> oh
[05:39] <mapps> wonder why always 5
[05:42] <daftykins> router woes i think :>
[05:43] <mapps> ah
[05:44] <daftykins> under 10 pages left of my book \o/
[05:47] <daftykins> https://danieldeluxe.bandcamp.com/track/darkness :D
[05:53] <mapps> what book
[05:54] <daftykins> Lee Child - Echo Burning ; one of the 'Jack Reacher' series
[05:54] <daftykins> #5 of 20 as it goes, and i've got 19 of 'em on a shelf now :D
[06:01] <mapps> jack reacher series?
[06:03] <daftykins> yep
[06:03] <daftykins> alrighty, book done - sleep time
[06:03] <daftykins> laters ^_^
[06:09] <mapps> cya:)
[06:30] <mapps> how many more seasons will they do for the walking dead..surely cant be many more
[06:38] <daftykins> hmm decided to stay up a bit and tinker
[06:39] <daftykins> sun coming up already after all ;D
[06:39] <mapps> hah what you doing:D
[06:39] <daftykins> well i booted this spare PC i have that has xubuntu+win10 on it, few mins later i've got my windows drive mounted with the local backup of music... now playing with a music proggie in xubuntu
[06:40] <mapps> cool:D not tried 10
[06:40] <mapps> you like?
[06:41] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/VkYWU2X.jpg
[06:41] <daftykins> quite pretty that gmusicbrowser
[06:42] <daftykins> yeah i like 10, it's very aesthetically boring but it's faster and leaner than even win7 was
[06:42] <mapps> whats min spec required
[06:42] <mapps> i saw some game said 12gig ram LOL
[06:43] <daftykins> sounds like the re-release of Batman Arkham Knight :)
[06:43] <mapps> ya
[06:43] <daftykins> meh Windows sys reqs never make any sense, just runs nicer on what 7 would run on :)
[06:43] <mapps> thAt was it lol
[06:44] <daftykins> that game was ace on my xbox one :) glad i don't mess around trying to get such things going on PC though
[06:44] <daftykins> used to enjoy it but gaming on PC is such a joke these days
[06:44] <daftykins> having said that i'm tempted by treating myself to a completely new PC build :)
[06:47] <mapps> i dont bother with pc games
[06:47] <mapps> too much effort..new game..great my gfx card sucks ont play it etc
[06:50] <daftykins> exactly
[06:50] <daftykins> in fact if i did a new build, i'd use the PSU and card from this one... but it's ancient so it'd suck
[06:50] <daftykins> er not this one, but mine :D
[06:50] <daftykins> hey mapps you heard anything by Tove Lo? :)
[06:50] <daftykins> music wise
[06:51] <mapps> nope what is it
[06:51] <daftykins> really damn catchy
[06:52] <daftykins> little bit more poppy than i might usually go for, but mmm
[06:54] <daftykins> hrmm, i have a couple of SSDs to try blanking
[06:54] <daftykins> odd they won't work in this NAS
[06:54] <daftykins> or i could shop for a new PC case :P
[06:55] <mapps> ah will check it
[06:56] <daftykins> holy crap LG G4 32GB smartphone £299.99 on ebuyer right now
[06:58] <mapps> ?:)
[06:58] <daftykins> http://www.ebuyer.com/store/Computer/cat/Smartphones,-Mobiles-&-Mobile-Broadband?q=lg+g4&no_rr
[06:58] <daftykins> worky?
[07:02] <mapps> ya
[07:02] <mapps> is it a good price or?
[07:03] <daftykins> yeah, my mum just upgraded to one
[07:03] <daftykins> telco wants £500 retail
[07:03] <daftykins> hmm £288 on ebay
[07:04] <mapps> hm
[07:04] <mapps> ridiculous how much phones cost really
[07:05] <daftykins> yip, glad it's not a vice of mine
[07:05] <daftykins> my brother is always buying the very latest Apple, such a mug
[07:05] <mapps> heh
[07:07] <daftykins> this is what's making me hesitant about dropping £500 on a PC upgrade really, i'd still be doing the same things :)
[07:07] <daftykins> i just know modern kit is now 4x faster than mine - plus it's giving some grief with age now
[07:13] <mapps> heh
[07:13] <mapps> yea
[07:13] <daftykins> coffee shop's open now
[07:14] <daftykins> might nip down in a tick :)
[07:14] <daftykins> now that's my vice
[07:15] <mapps> pff i hate going out so early
[07:16] <daftykins> i quite like seeing the normal folk heading in to start :)
[07:16] <mapps> i dont heh
[07:16] <mapps> :)
[07:17] <daftykins> then i go home and go to bed XD
[07:17] <mapps> i cant ever get comfortable
[07:18] <mapps> il fall asleep and wakeup an hr later
[07:18] <mapps> ;/
[07:18] <_Ridgewing> Moin Moin, Good morning \o/
[07:19] <mapps> morning
[07:19] <_Ridgewing> You at UOS ?
[07:19] <mapps> whats that
[07:19] <_Ridgewing> http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[07:20] * _Ridgewing opens a fresh bag of galaxy cookies that cost 5p from Tresco.
[07:20] <mapps> nice
[07:20] <mapps> bargain
[07:20] <mapps> so what is it _Ridgewing
[07:21] <mapps> online thing..a forum a webcast?
[07:21] <_Ridgewing> kinda
[07:21] <mapps> so if i registered what would i see..how do i participate
[07:22] <_Ridgewing> It's a dev summit where you can log onto gogle hangout and participate in the community tacks etc .. e.g. This was yesterday: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22620/community-roundtable-ii/
[07:22] <_Ridgewing> (just follow the links and participate on irc.
[07:23] * _Ridgewing puts his cookie monster badge on :)
[07:23] <mapps> thanks
[07:23] <mapps> those galaxy cookies are nice they sell them here in morrisons
[07:23] <mapps> have you had the bounty ones?
[07:24] <_Ridgewing> Yeah, originally cost £1.37 but I got five bags of four cookie (american big style-y)for 5p each . Yay \o/
[07:24] <_Ridgewing> **cookies
[07:25] <_Ridgewing> The bounty ones are like cocaine for me. Too much and I won't fit in my one-sie.
[07:25] <daftykins> if you were a FOSS lover you'd be greeted by a requirement to install flash in order to watch
[07:25] <daftykins> which is quite frankly laughable :)
[07:26] <mapps> hahaha
[07:26] <mapps> a one-sie?!
[07:26] <_Ridgewing> shuttleworth says you have to take "risks", these days with things like pepper flash.
[07:27] <daftykins> _Ridgewing: i doubt he said that at all :P
[07:28] <_Ridgewing> mapps: There are suggies available, but not at the moment: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/jml-snuggie-blanket-10-instore-at-asda-646718
[07:28] <mapps> heh
[07:28] <_Ridgewing> **Snuggies
[07:29] <_Ridgewing> daftykins: He did say you have to take risks in the keynote. want me to find it for ya ?
[07:29] <daftykins> regarding flash specifically? :P
[07:29] <_Ridgewing> No.
[07:29] <daftykins> right, thought so
[07:30] <_Ridgewing> k
[07:32] <daftykins> but yeah being Canonical then requiring flash on your summit events, hilarious
[07:32] <_Ridgewing> daftykins: I take it you don't 'hangout' much, then ?
[07:35] * _Ridgewing waves his little Manx Flag.
[07:37] <daftykins> never used Hangouts no, resist it on my phone too - still on the standard SMS app in android land :P
[07:39] <_Ridgewing> SMS .. is that texting ?
[07:40] <mapps> yea
[07:40] * _Ridgewing wonders if ppl stil send Txts
[07:40] <mapps> europeans say SMS more
[07:40] <mapps> brits just say text
[07:40] <_Ridgewing> Really ? That's so 2005
[07:40] <mapps> ive seen hangouts on my phone too..never used
[07:40] <_Ridgewing> At least use telegram
[07:40] <mapps> people use snapchat..whatsapp kik telegram viber etc
[07:41] <_Ridgewing> That's a good question: I know snapchat is available for Linux (it has an API) - what do-we need to do to get it on Touch ?
[07:42] * _Ridgewing wipes the cookie crumbs away from keyboard.
[07:42] <mapps> =]
[07:42] <mapps> no clue
[07:42] <mapps> never used it
[07:42] <daftykins> i have to use SMS for some holdouts, yeah
[07:43] <daftykins> typically on whatsapp
[07:43] <daftykins> heard that telegram name lurking around, no idea what benefits it has though
[07:43] <mapps> encrypted
[07:43] <mapps> i believe
[07:43] <daftykins> ah so for the tinfoil hat crowd, great ;)
[07:43] <mapps> but for most peoples convos its irrelevant
[07:44] <_Ridgewing> I'm sure I wouldn't have an eHarmony girlfriend if it wasn't for Snap chat available on Linux. She specifically stated she was a snapchat addict. [Fair enough]
[07:44] <daftykins> see, i heard that one was for school kids sexting each other originally ;)
[07:44] <daftykins> no point over whatsapp imo
[07:45] <mapps> yea
[07:45] <mapps> eharmony eh
[07:45] <_Ridgewing> yeps.
[07:45] <_Ridgewing> Only cost a grand in subscription/s.
[07:45] <_Ridgewing> But I'm in Lurve
[07:46] * _Ridgewing blinks
[07:46] <mapps> lol
[07:46] <_Ridgewing> What am doing telling you my juicy bits, anyway - This is a tech channel !!!!!!
[07:46] <mapps> full of fakes and transexuals on dating sites
[07:47] <mapps> ive been on pof and yea uhh
[07:47] <_Ridgewing> eHarmony is abit more softcore IMHO.
[07:47] <mapps> loads of fake profiles nice pics clearly stolen and then guys that are now girls..had a message off them before
[07:47] <mapps> not for me ta
[07:49] <_Ridgewing> I take it "ta" is tea, then ?
[07:49] <mapps> ta like thanks
[07:50] <_Ridgewing> Oh Ok, but what your favourite type of tea-bag ?
[07:50] <mapps> http://www.tv.com/shows/supergirl/
[07:50] <mapps> green tea with honey=]
[07:51] * _Ridgewing prefers She-ra to Supergirl.
[07:51] <_Ridgewing> she-ra was all about eternity - supergirl is all about muscles.
[07:52] <mapps> decent enoughratings
[07:52] <mapps> i watch lots of tv;D
[07:52] <daftykins> _Ridgewing: you not British then?
[07:52] <mapps> are you new here, didnt recognise the nick
[07:52] <mapps> daftykins the ta thing?;)
[07:53] <_Ridgewing> daftykins: I'm a mixer of Manx and Irish, thou.
[07:53] <daftykins> that's what made me wonder ye :>
[07:53] <_Ridgewing> I'm quite new.
[07:53] <mapps> ;]
[07:53] <daftykins> hehe
[07:53] <daftykins> alright time to go down the coffee shop i think
[07:53] <_Ridgewing> I had a haircut yesterday- and I felt like a new man !
[07:53] <daftykins> ooh already an hour into opening time!
[07:54] <daftykins> i've been debating losing the pony tail :P
[07:54] * _Ridgewing shudders
[07:55] <mapps> =]
[07:55] <_Ridgewing> Do we have any Corbyn fans here ?
[07:55] <mapps> not me
[07:55] <mapps> ;]
[07:55] <daftykins> Corin... DALLAAAAAS!
[07:55] <daftykins> er Corbin
[07:55] <_Ridgewing> https://www.reddit.com/r/corbyn4leader
[07:55] <mapps> so you gonna be a regular here _Ridgewing?
[07:56] <daftykins> </The Fifth Element>
[07:56] <_Ridgewing> maybe, why is that a problem ?
[07:56] <mapps> ive never 'got' reddit like twitter
[07:56] <diplo> Morning all
[07:56] <mapps> no:P thats good
[07:56] <daftykins> will be if you bring up politics :)
[07:56] <_Ridgewing> k
[07:56] <mapps> just seems like so much text to keep track of
[07:56] <daftykins> diplo: gm sir
[07:57] <_Ridgewing> --------------------------------------------------------
[07:57] <diplo> Can't get used to the speed of login since new ssd :)
[07:57] <daftykins> haha
[07:57] <_Ridgewing> I did apply for reddit funding recently.
[07:57] <diplo> How are we all this rather sh*te morning
[07:57] <_Ridgewing> **CAnonical funding
[07:57] <daftykins> is it the "i'll just get up to make a coffee" type chair movement, but then you see the desktop ready? ;)
[07:57] <mapps> whats that _Ridgewing
[07:58] <daftykins> not bad here ty, ooh yeah it does look rather nasty out there
[07:58] <diplo> I used to wait 20 mins before I could get to work, boot up, go make a brew and open all my daily applications and do nothing
[07:58] <diplo> Yep exactly daftykins :D
[07:58] <_Ridgewing> mapps: http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/
[07:58] <daftykins> :D
[07:58] <mapps> and re reddit i just mean unless i sit there refreshing how would u keep up with a topic
[07:58] <_Ridgewing> Right - trading time ...
[07:58] <daftykins> diplo: i really can't stand being on a machine without one now :( ruins you like proper resolution screens, then multi screens
[07:59] <mapps> same as twitter, i follow some accounts but notifications alays has like 10000
[07:59] <mapps> how can you keep up with it all unless constantly checking
[08:00] <diplo> I need more, tried the one from this lappy in my D820 dell at home
[08:00] <diplo> Didn't recognise it :(
[08:01] <diplo> mapps: You just don't care what you missed :)
[08:01] <mapps> =]
[08:01] <diplo> That's how I do it, I have lists and add people I like to keep on top of in the list, so have 5 lists
[08:02] <daftykins> diplo: non recognised o0 still a SATA machine? might need a BIOS update perhaps
[08:02] <diplo> yeah there is one update
[08:02] <diplo> No mention of it though
[08:02] <diplo> But reading online others have had luck with drives, supposedly intel ones work/recognised beter
[08:02] <diplo> better*
[08:02] <daftykins> sometimes you get lucky :) i did a RAM upgrade in a Dell that claimed no benefits but it made new RAM POST ok \o/
[08:03] <daftykins> which did you get?
[08:03] <diplo> Samsung Evo 850 250gb, work bought it for me so didn't choose per se
[08:04] <daftykins> ah yeah
[08:04] <daftykins> mmm not a bad choice at all
[08:04] <diplo> Oh good, as I am sooooo soooo far out of the hardware game it's ridiculous
[08:05] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:08] <daftykins> only £65 odd for that one too
[08:08] <daftykins> MooDoo: gm o/
[08:12] <diplo> yeah it was a bargain, I want to spuce the speed of my home laptop though
[08:12] <daftykins> oh yeah i think we may've spoken about its' specs in the past
[08:13] <diplo> Yeah, that's two I've tried now a hybrid and this one
[08:14] <diplo> Only bios updater is windows too :/
[08:15] <daftykins> hmm, freeDOS on a flash drive ;D
[08:16] <_Ridgewing> Are you looking for an SSD drive ?
[08:16] <diplo> If I remember correctly I may have done that before... wish I knew someone with some spare drives to test :D
[08:16] <diplo> Yeah for an *old* laptop
[08:16] <_Ridgewing> k .. hangon ...
[08:17] <_Ridgewing> £54.99 http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sandisk-ultra-ii-2-5-internal-ssd-240-gb-54-99-pcworld-2305892
[08:17] <daftykins> i'd go crucial BX100 for a budget option maybe
[08:17] <daftykins> sandisk, not so hot.
[08:18] <diplo> Yeah, I just don't want to spend the money and it won't work, not the flushest guy with money being a single dad :D
[08:18] <diplo> If I'd tried this Evo and it had worked I'd have bought one already
[08:20] <diplo> Just got a UPS for work PC, todays task is to get it to email/Telegram on powerfailure, unfortunately it's only usb connected
[08:20] <_Ridgewing> Is that a power-back up kinda thing, then ?
[08:20] <diplo> yeah
[08:20] <_Ridgewing> cool.
[08:22] <daftykins> diplo: http://uk.crucial.com/ have a model picker so you can guarantee compatibility
[08:22] <daftykins> free return if it doesn't work \o/
[08:23] <_Ridgewing> They have good returns (crucial.com) But there certainly not the budget option.
[08:23] <diplo> daftykins: thanks, looking now
[08:24] <daftykins> np :)
[08:25] <diplo> Only shows memeory
[08:25] <diplo> :P
[08:27] <daftykins> aww
[08:36] <_Ridgewing> Why doesn't this work ? http://tinyurl.com/uukstat
[08:37] <diplo> domain doesn't resolve
[08:38] <diplo> www or non www
[08:40] <SuperMatt> it's not that the domain doesn't resolve, it's that port 80 is not open on ip 85.119.82.16
[08:41] <SuperMatt> nmap lists the firewall rule as closed, instead of filtered, and I can see port 22 is open, so it's probably that httpd/apache/nginx is down, rather than firewall rules locking it down
[08:43] <diplo> heh, hadn't gone that far to check
[08:43] <diplo> Good work :D
[08:44] <SuperMatt> I'm just breaking out my l337 ex-Rackspace skills
[08:44] <daftykins> :)
[08:45] <daftykins> hang on a minute, didn't you chat on here when you got that job? doesn't seem like all that long ago?
[08:46] <daftykins> mmm gingerbread latte
[08:48] <_Ridgewing> My domain resolves : http://wilywerewolf.com/
[08:49] <daftykins> oof, that'll be out of date very quick
[08:49] <daftykins> hope you only picked one year :)
[08:49] <_Ridgewing> Just not sure what to do with it.
[08:49] <_Ridgewing> Yep, I didn't even register it with my real name Hey-Ho domain-monster !
[08:50] <_Ridgewing> I want to get discourse running, but not sure how ?
[08:50] <_Ridgewing> Plus, I need shopping cookies.
[08:50] <_Ridgewing> and bounty cookies.
[08:51] <daftykins> you're not that redtape fellow from a while back are you?
[08:51] <_Ridgewing> In fact all types of cookies are acceptable, to me.
[08:51] <_Ridgewing> daftykins: Why ?
[08:51] <daftykins> curious.
[08:52] <_Ridgewing> Well, I'm curious that your curious, too.
[08:53] <_Ridgewing> :)
[08:57] <daftykins> i'll take it as a yes then.
[08:58] <_Ridgewing> daftykins: dunno, describe him to me .
[09:01] <daftykins> sorry, can't be bothered to play that game.
[09:01] <_Ridgewing> fair enough, but I think your barking up the wrong tree.
[09:01] <daftykins> ok
[09:02] <_Ridgewing> I'm mostly a Kubuntu fan.
[09:02] * _Ridgewing is doing the PR and everything.
[09:03] <daftykins> i installed that in a VM the other day, i find it weird looking
[09:03] <_Ridgewing> what the wallpaper , or what ?
[09:03] <_Ridgewing> seems a_lot more solyd to me.
[09:04] <_Ridgewing> **solid
[09:05] <daftykins> i'm in a tech channel on IRC, i'm not judging an OS by its' WALLPAPER!
[09:06] <_Ridgewing> ok, no need to get the hump. Hump day was so yesterday, :)
[09:08] <daftykins> just pointing out how ridiculous your claim was :)
[09:08] <daftykins> or query even
[09:08] <daftykins> nah every UI element really, it's grown up a bit since i last saw it though
[09:08] <daftykins> but 1.2GB RAM used at boot? that one's been at the cookies
[09:17] <_Ridgewing> So it's basically the RAM overhead, then ? - well It's not for your average 2004 laptop, I guess.
[09:17] <daftykins> no that's an aside
[09:18] <_Ridgewing> go on ...
[09:18] <_Ridgewing> we need feedback.
[09:18] <daftykins> no, you don't
[09:19] <daftykins> i was being told just the other day by a guy who considered joining the kubuntu dev team until he saw how they're just glorified debian repackagers :)
[09:19] <daftykins> er, just how iffy the dev on that one seems
[09:20] <_Ridgewing> One of the dev has a Patreon page if you are interested ? https://www.patreon.com/sgclark?ty=h
[09:20] <ali1234> _Ridgewing: KDE has huge problems with alignment - i have to agree it makes everything look weird
[09:20] <_Ridgewing> right, got it - I shall pass that on.
[09:21] <SuperMatt> daftykins: yes, it was only 21 months since I started at Rackspace, but I quit last week for something a little more down to earth
[09:21] <daftykins> SuperMatt: ah-har! wow almost 2 years :S
[09:28] <diplo> Whatcha doing now SuperMatt ?
[09:30] <SuperMatt> I'm working for a company called Sporting Index, doing infrastructure stuff
[09:31] <diplo> Cool, a bit slow paced ?
[09:31] <SuperMatt> so this week I have mostly been working on zabbix
[09:31] <SuperMatt> yeah, lovely and slow paced
[09:32] <daftykins> rackspace was a bit high pressure and time based eh?
[09:32] <daftykins> i was just glancing at their careers page, heh
[09:44] <MooDoo> glad you're enjoying yourself SuperMatt :)
[10:12] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:13] <daftykins> heya \o
[10:13] <daftykins> how's brobostigon this fine morning?
[10:13] <brobostigon> my eczema could be better, and you?
[10:14] <MooDoo> oh no - https://blogs.fsfe.org/jonas/?p=30 a sad day indee
[10:14] <daftykins> brobostigon: doh! a friend gets that big time on the island, but when he lived in England it all went away - sea air! all good here ty :)
[10:15] <brobostigon> daftykins: i find moutains are good as well.
[10:18] <daftykins> MooDoo: :(
[10:20] <daftykins> evil cancer
[10:20] <daftykins> dear Asus, please speed up your UK website
[10:22] <diplo> Good luck daftykins, it's been awful for years!
[10:22] <MooDoo> daftykins: yeah i know :(
[10:23] <daftykins> diplo: :D glad it's not just my funny island then
[10:24] <daftykins> just ogling my likely new choice: http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z170-PRO/specifications/
[10:24] <daftykins> proper intel gigabit LAN, proper intel USB 3.1 controller
[10:25] <diplo> I sooooo need a new Pc at home, well everything really :)
[10:26] <daftykins> :D
[10:26] <daftykins> you can have my core 2 quad once i upgrade ;)
[10:26] <diplo> Still runs steam though
[10:26] <diplo> Mines a old Dell workstation, core2duo something with 4 or 6gb of ram
[10:27] <diplo> More than anything I'd like to be able to play newer games and rip dvd's a lot quicker
[10:28] <daftykins> mmm you could definitely benefit from a more modern intel i3/i5/i7 with intel quicksync
[10:28] <daftykins> that's great for the DVD transcoding
[10:29] <diplo> Yup, stopped using it at home for nearly 2 years :D
[10:29] <diplo> Switched it on for the kids for Minecraft on the PC, last windows update was like Jan 2013 :D
[10:30] <daftykins> yeeouch!
[10:30] <diplo> Wasn't insecure as it hadn't been powered on :)
[10:30] <SuperMatt> I'll be honest, you should upgrade to windows 10. It's good. Like, really good
[10:30] <diplo> I just didn't feel like doing computers at home anymore
[10:30] <MooDoo> I've only got a laptop but we're having an extension so I'm building a new PC for streaming games etc
[10:30] <diplo> I still don't like it SuperMatt, will stay with 7 for now
[10:31] <SuperMatt> If I could only have a good SSH client on it, I would genuniely use it for my day to day
[10:31] <diplo> I'm debating for the same reason MooDoo
[10:31] <SuperMatt> I really don't like putty
[10:31] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: wait for SSH to be bult into powershell :D
[10:31] <SuperMatt> yeah, I was just about to say that
[10:31] <MooDoo> diplo: :)
[10:31] <diplo> I use mputty SuperMatt :)
[10:31] <diplo> SecureCRT is OK, but not free
[10:32] <MooDoo> diplo: I stream via twitch at the moment via my xbox one :)
[10:32] <daftykins> xbox one \o/
[10:32] <diplo> Did I see a vid from you the other day ? Destiny ?
[10:32] <daftykins> MooDoo: looking forward to the new OS on the 12th? i am :)
[10:32] <SuperMatt> I think waiting for power shell is th ebest bet for me
[10:33] <daftykins> on an xbox? XD
[10:33] <MooDoo> daftykins: ah wondered when it was being release, not fussed really as long as I can stream and play games :)
[10:34] <daftykins> :)
[10:34] <daftykins> should be waaaaaay faster to do most things
[10:34] <daftykins> plus xbox 360 backwards compatibility comes \o/
[10:34] <MooDoo> well i'm a MS fanboy any way so I'm sure it's going to rock!
[10:35] <daftykins> ^5! :)
[10:35] <daftykins> i love win10 streaming from it
[10:35] <MooDoo> :)
[10:35] <daftykins> i can play the games up here at my desk
[10:35] <daftykins> xbox down in the lounge downstairs
[10:35] <MooDoo> daftykins: I'm wireless laptop so it doesn't work over wireless
[10:35] <daftykins> sure it does!
[10:35] <daftykins> i've had my laptop streaming over 130Mbps 'n'
[10:36] <daftykins> maybe not on the 'very high' setting, but it does admirably
[10:36] <MooDoo> hmmm will need to look into it as my laptop won't discover the xbox one
[10:36] <daftykins> is it possible your router / WAP has wireless isolation configured? so it can't see wired devices? unless they're both wireless.
[10:37] <MooDoo> i'll look into that :)
[10:38] <MooDoo> daftykins: ah looks like I can just create a new static route in my dd-wrt router and that should fix it
[10:40] <MooDoo> daftykins: or I'll just plug in a ethernet over power adapter :D
[10:40] <daftykins> :D
[11:10] <diplo> My 360 RROD'd last weekend :(
[11:11] <daftykins> d'aww, long out of warranty?
[11:12] <daftykins> a friend of mine claims 100% success rate on applying the GPU heatsink bolt application fix, very cheap but a fair amount of time to do
[11:12] <diplo> Yeah it is
[11:12] <daftykins> i did a couple myself but they were only ever temporary fixes
[11:12] <diplo> I've looked on ebay, can get the elite for about 50-60 quid
[11:12] <diplo> Or £79 in Game
[11:12] <diplo> Can't decide what to do, can't really afford the One yet
[11:13] <diplo> Kids just bought 4-5 games for the 360 with their birthday money :/
[11:14] <daftykins> erk! the GPU sink mount kit costs about £5 if you're good with hardware
[11:15] <daftykins> before going that far, it's usually worth unplugging all accessories + the HDD to make sure it's definitely the main unit too
[11:15] <daftykins> (MS support makes you do that as step 1 too)
[11:15] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Gunpowder Day, and happy Men Make Dinner Day (totally unrelated)! 😃
[11:15] <Gary> oh I so need to hide someplace safe from bleeding fireworks tonight
[11:16] <MooDoo> oh no forgot it was that onight
[11:16] <daftykins> me too!
[11:16] <daftykins> i'm in the capital so i can't avoid haha
[11:17] <Gary> I once visited a friend on bonfire night - his housing estate was more like a warzone
[11:18] <foobarry> popey thanks for he tp link
[11:19] <popey> np
[11:22] <foobarry> sad about losing root on my hudl2 though
[11:22] <daftykins> they patch it out with their lollipop update?
[11:22] <foobarry> yeah
[11:22] <diplo> daftykins: I will look into it thanks, think I'll order another anyhoo and have the old one as a project
[11:23] <daftykins> i guess now they're winding those down, it'll likely come back
[11:23] <diplo> Kids can have one in another room if it works
[11:23] <foobarry> and they don't allow unlocing bootloader
[11:23] <daftykins> diplo: :D
[11:23] <foobarry> even though they stopped selling the tablet
[11:27] <popey> they don't sell the hudl2?
[11:27] <popey> I thought i saw them in tesco last week
[11:28] <daftykins> 'til stock runs out i think now
[11:28] <daftykins> no more making them
[11:29] <zmoylan-pi> no hudl3...
[11:32] <daftykins> nope!
[11:32] <daftykins> they shut down a lot of their content streaming services and are getting out of hardware it seems
[11:32] <zmoylan-pi> they created a really nice piece of kit, got a lot of mindshare and then throw it away...
[11:32] <daftykins> Tesco's big cheese wants to focus on the supermarket being a... supermarket :D
[11:33] <zmoylan-pi> well that's not going to work when aldi and lidl are nearby
[11:33] <zmoylan-pi> i use tesco mobile for my mobile phone. hope that keeps going as it's best/only prepay in ireland left
[11:35] <daftykins> hmm
[11:37] <zmoylan-pi> no junk sms, cheapest, good coverage...
[11:38] <daftykins> i think they're just a MVNO over there - the virtual networks?
[11:39] <zmoylan-pi> same here, piggy backing on 02's network, now owened by 3 i think
[11:40] <daftykins> ah yeah
[11:41] <zmoylan-pi> i use data, calls sms so little that i get 2-3 months per €5
[11:41] <daftykins> wowzer!
[11:42] <daftykins> we have 3 mobile providers right now, but one is buying the other yet again so we'll be back to 2 :(
[11:42] <zmoylan-pi> on any other network €5 only lasts 2 weeks and then i need to add another €5 for 2 more weeks as they moved to rolling contracts but still calling it prepay
[11:43] <zmoylan-pi> so i kinda want to stick to proper prepay :-) €30 for same if i get a rolling contract...
[11:44] <zmoylan-pi> if i don't get a choice, i'll probably just ditch using a sim, it's not worth that amount of money for so little usage
[11:45] <awilkins> GiffGaff is kind of in that space
[11:45] <awilkins> You can do a rolling contract or pay as you go
[11:46] <awilkins> They charge a flat £0.06 a text, and £0.10 a minute, £0.20 for the first 20MB of data in a day
[11:47] <awilkins> I think I was getting by with about £6 a month but I just upped it to £10 so I could stop worrying about data
[11:47] <awilkins> Calls to other GiffGaff phones are free
[11:48] <awilkins> They too subcontract onto the O2 network
[11:48] <daftykins> *nod* saw some ads for that the other day, can't remember where as i don't normally see broadcast TV
[11:49] <zmoylan-pi> of course since 3 bought 02 they've been shutting down the 2g network to push 4g which is annoying
[11:49] <awilkins> Yeah, the coverage of even 3G is still awful on transport links
[11:49] <awilkins> Which is a real PITA when you are using Maps and you need a reroute and you can't get decent data
[11:50] <zmoylan-pi> i use cycle streets for offline map as there is a uk and ireland download for all the map data
[11:51] <awilkins> I find the thing where it will route you around traffic pretty useful
[11:51] <zmoylan-pi> it won't do the routing offline but i never use that
[11:52] <awilkins> I have no idea how I would function without satnav now :-)
[11:52] <zmoylan-pi> i have a compass in my bag... :-)
[11:58] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: I have a watch with hands who needs a compass
[11:59] <Gary> how do you tell direction with a watch with hands?
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> take lots of iron, point, spin and when you stop you'll be pointing north :-)
[12:02] <bigcalm> http://www.wikihow.com/Use-an-Analog-Watch-as-a-Compass
[12:02] <Gary> ah, it's cloudy :'(
[12:03] <zmoylan-pi> and it doesn't work when summer time is in effect :-)
[12:04] <zmoylan-pi> i did get a cheap watch in lidl with a compass feature builtin. but i don't wear it
[12:04] <davmor2> Gary: you can still tell where the sun is even now when it is cloudy
[12:05] <zmoylan-pi> not it ireland you can't
[12:05] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: it does work you just set the hand back an hour which takes a couple of seconds
[12:05] <zmoylan-pi> there are days you're not even sure it's day when the could cover is really thick
[12:07] <Gary> davmor2, it's in the sky! :p
[12:08] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF1951pENdk
[12:25] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[12:26] <MooDoo> morning
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> because using a solar powered charger on a plane should make everyone around you nervous... :-P https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/da/f6/ce/daf6ce953f87af11d8110291c101210b.jpg
[13:02] <awilkins> zmoylan-pi, That's mental
[13:25] <Gary> can anyone recommend a veeam cloud connect supplier?
[13:26] <foobarry> a reseller?
[13:27] <foobarry> or a service provider
[13:28] <Gary> provider really, but we basically have veeam and want to sync our local backups to a cloud provider, I just need to get some prices
[13:33] <diddledan> wow: https://youtu.be/_VPvKl6ezyc
[13:34] <diddledan> it's like a scene out of iron man
[16:10] <diddledan> really quiet today
[16:18] <zmoylan-pi> IS THIS BETTER? :-)
[16:18] <diddledan> too loud!
[16:19] <zmoylan-pi> i'll go outside and repeat it so.... ::footsteps and door opening closing nosies::
[16:19] <zmoylan-pi> is this better?
[16:20] <diddledan> were those door noises the kind you'd find on a cheap (but awesome) B-roll movie?
[16:20] <zmoylan-pi> oooooh the numbeer of support calls were i asked people to close windows on the desktop and you'd hear footsteps and windows been slammed closed...
[16:22] <zmoylan-pi> let's see, you're running windows 3.1 with 4mb with 20 applications running and you say it's going slow... we need to close a few windows...
[16:24] <zmoylan-pi> just get the bbc workshop generic door sounds album 2 for for all your squeaky door noise requirements.
[18:46] <diddledan> warzone here in basingstoke
[18:46] <diddledan> explosions going off
[19:26] <Gnar> Yo, check it
[19:26] <Gnar> Call Lil' Cease
[19:26] <Gnar> Tell that muh'fucker to bring me some muh'fuckin weed for this hospital
[19:26] <Gnar> man fuck that
[19:26] <Gnar> Tell that reporter to go pick up ten thousand from Dez
[19:26] <Gnar> and go take about like twenty G's from Gino
[19:26] <Gnar> Tell that muh'fucker get this nigga next door up out of here
[19:26] <Gnar> Nigga be snorin all night I can't sleep (hehe)
[19:26] <Gnar> Call that big butt nurse with the long hair to come suck my dick
[22:13] <diddledan> did anyone spot this yet? https://store.bbc.com/
[23:46] <mapps> hm
[23:46] <mapps> new maze runner seems a bit rubbish
[23:54] <diddledan> I've not seen the first one yet
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-de
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[09:21] <martin05112015> servus
[09:23] <martin05112015> hat hier jemand ahnung von compiz und kann mir weiter helfen ??
[09:23] <martin05112015> habe ubuntu 14.04
[09:24] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Um was geht es?
[09:24] <martin05112015> wenn ich den würfel drehe sehe ich die offenen fenster nicht nur auf der aktiven arbeitsfläche sonder auch links oder rechts neben dem würfel
[09:25] <martin05112015> sieht ein bisschen dann aus wie ein grafik fehler ^^
[09:25] <jokrebel> oh! Damit hab ich nie rumgespielt. Da ist auch meine Grafik zu lahm für sowas. Sorry, da bin ich raus.
[09:25] <martin05112015> ok
[09:26] <martin05112015> ja habe jetzt ubuntu vernünftig auf meinem laptop zum laufen bekommen ^^
[09:26] <martin05112015> diesmal ohne festplatten und partitions probleme ^^
[09:27] <jokrebel> Für was braucht man den Würfel? Ist doch blos ne Spielerei IMHO
[09:27] <jokrebel> martin05112015: schön
[09:27] <martin05112015> ja schon spielerei aber irgendwie ist auch cool so die arbeitsflächen zu wechseln hehe
[09:27] <martin05112015> hat irgendwie was
[09:29] <jokrebel> Ich mach das mit Alt+Tab
[09:29] <martin05112015> ja das geht natürlich auch
[09:30] <martin05112015> aber wie gesagt der würfel hat irgendwie was
[09:30] <LetoThe2nd> pro/contra arbeitsflächenumschalter diskutieren bring nicht wirklich was, ist halt einfach geschmack
[09:30] <jokrebel> bzw. Strg+Alt+Pfeil
[09:30] <LetoThe2nd> aber ich kann leider auch nix zum würfel sagen, weil ich sowas ebenfalls nicht mag
[09:31] <martin05112015> ok ist ja nicht schlimm geschmäcker sind halt anders
[09:33] <martin05112015> ok bin erst einmal weg denke komme etwas später wieder bis denne
[09:38] <maxcnc> guten morgen Frage ich suche ein File das am 4Feb 2011 erstellt wurde wie mach ich das am besten
[09:39] <LetoThe2nd> maxcnc: man find, würde ich sagen
[09:39] <maxcnc> muss ich da die tage ausrechen und mit find suchen
[09:40] <LetoThe2nd> alternativ-hack: ls mit entsprechenden parametern rekursiv durch grep pipen
[09:46] <jokrebel> maxcnc: Auch die GUI hat Möglichkeiten zu suchen (was sozusagen dann ein Frontend dafür wäre).
[09:46] <maxcnc> ich blicks einfach nicht
[09:47] <jokrebel> maxcnc: Nautilus (Dateimanger) - Orte - Suchen
[09:47] <maxcnc> da kann ich aber keine optionen angeben
[09:49] <LetoThe2nd> "ich blicks nicht" ist nur leider keine frage, auf die man sinnvoll antowrten könnte
[09:50] <maxcnc> ich versuchs jetzt mal so "touch --date "2011-02-03" /tmp/start
[09:50] <jokrebel> versuch es mal mit gnome-search-tool (obwohl man die Suche in Nautlius schon auch diesbezüglich verfeiner kann soweit ich mich erinnere)
[09:51] <LetoThe2nd> maxcnc: ja, older und newer bei find zusammen mit passenden dummyfiles wären auch ne denkbare option
[09:51] <maxcnc> "touch --date "2011-02-05" /tmp/end -- find /f7207f9b-f4f2-4b90-a5a5-d71c3686f4eb/home/s -type f -newer /tmp/start -not -newer /tmp/end
[09:52] <maxcnc> das gnome search tool schau ich mir mal an
[09:53] <LetoThe2nd> oder was in der art von "ls -lR /whereever | grep ' 3 Feb'"
[09:53] <jokrebel> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/find
[09:53] <maxcnc> das ist cool
[09:54] <LetoThe2nd> ist ja nicht so als hätt ichs nicht vor 15min shcon erwähnt
[09:56] <jokrebel> LetoThe2nd: Du hast auf die man-Page verwiesen. Das ist was Andreas <g>
[09:57] <LetoThe2nd> 10:40 < LetoThe2nd> alternativ-hack: ls mit entsprechenden parametern rekursiv durch grep pipen
[09:57] <LetoThe2nd> nö.
[09:58] <jokrebel> achso - dacht es geht noch um "find"
[10:00] <maxcnc> Danke
[11:32] <gast111> hallo, wie richtet man einen drucker ein, wenn dieser nicht in der liste
[11:32] <gast111> ist ?
[11:35] <jokrebel> gast111: Wie ist er denn "wo" angebunden?
[11:52] <gast111> jokrebel, per usb, es betrifft einen freund von mir
[11:52] <gast111> lexmark e332n
[12:00] <jokrebel> oi Lexmark...
[12:03] <jokrebel> gast111: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Archiv/Lexmark_Drucker könnte veraltet sein
[12:06] <gast111> ich dachte, linux läuft gut mit alter hardware
[12:06] <gast111> auf der lexmark-website gibt einen treiber für 12.04, kann man den nehmen oder ist das riskant?
[12:10] <gast111> jokrebel,
[12:10] <jokrebel> wenn du 12.04 hast, ja ;-)
[12:10] <gast111> nein, der kollege hat 15.10
[12:11] <jokrebel> gast111: Lexmark hat es nicht so mit "Open-Source-Support"
[12:11] <gast111> es gibt auf der lexmark seite treiber von 9.10 bis 12.04, mehr nicht
[12:12] <gast111> ich suche mal im ubuntuusers-forum
[12:12] <jokrebel> gute Idee
[12:15] <InstallationGuy> Hi. Mein Notebook zeigt immer nur ein Akku-Indikator an, auch wenn es am Netzteil hängt. Am liebsten wäre es mir, wenn es nur dann einen Indikator anzeigt, wenn der Akku benutzt wird – sonst gar keins. Die Einstellungen dafür sind jedenfalls korrekt gesetzt, geht aber trotzdem nicht. Benutze 15.10, war aber auch schon unter 15.04 so. Ideen, wie sich das lösen lässt?
[12:18] <jokrebel> InstallationGuy: Normale Ubuntu mit Unity-Desktop?
[12:18] <InstallationGuy> @jokrebel: Ja.
[12:18] <InstallationGuy> jokrebel: Ja.
[12:22] <jokrebel> Hab hier leider grade nirgends ein Akku-betriebenes Gerät mit Ubuntu-15.x am Start. Kann das also auch nicht verifizieren.
[12:23] <jokrebel> aber es sind ja noch über hundert andere da.
[12:29] <InstallationGuy> jokrebel: Ich glaube, das ist auch sehr Geräte-abhängig. Meine Kollegen haben das Problem nicht, nur ich mit meinem Zenbook UX303.
[12:30] <star314> Hi!
[12:32] <jokrebel> InstallationGuy: Mit dem gleichen Drucker haben die keine Probleme? Auch unter Ubuntu 15.10? Dann nimm den Treiber den die nutzten. :-)
[12:33] <star314> Bei "apt-get upgrade" kommt bei bestimmten Paketen eine Meldung am Schirm in Form einer Emailnachricht (steht drinnen was am Paket wesentlich neu ist) und der Vorgang pausiert. Wie kann man das abstellen? Ich habe es mit "dpkg-reconfigure -plow" versucht, aber erfolglos
[12:33] <InstallationGuy> jokrebel: Es geht um die Energieanzeige. Ich möchte, dass nur dann ein Indikator angezeigt wird, wenn ich den Akku benutze.
[12:33] <InstallationGuy> jokrebel: Leider greift die dafür vorgesehene Systemeinstellung aber nicht; es wird IMMER ein Akku-Indikator angezeigt, auch bei Netzstrom.
[12:34] <jokrebel> InstallationGuy: Ah sorry - dann hab ich Dich anscheinend verwechselt. Tut mir leid.
[12:41] <geser> star314: auf welches Paket hast du "dpkg-reconfigure" angewendet?
[12:42] <geser> star314: das für diese Meldung zuständige Paket ist "apt-listchanges"
[13:05] <star314> geser: Danke, ich probiere das gleich aus.
[14:14] <wlbi> hi
[14:16] <k1l_> hallo
[14:38] <jokrebel> Wie kann es sein, dass ein einziger Rechner nach dem Tausch des 5-Port-Switches gegen ein 8-Port-Switch nur noch eine IPv6 findet aber keine (interne) IPv4? Verschieden Ports am neuen Switch und verschiedene Kabel wurden probiert.
[14:38] <jokrebel> Alle Anderen LAN-Gerät an diesem neuen Switch funktionieren einwandfrei.
[14:42] <nagetier> jokrebel, konnte das auf die Schnelle finden, hört sich gut an - http://serverfault.com/questions/93717/setting-ipv4-as-preferred-protocol-over-ipv6
[14:42] <nagetier> wenn das mit dem Switch auch recht komisch ist
[14:43] <nagetier> IPv6 abschalten wäre natürlich auch möglich.. nur nicht immer gewünscht, und ob das problemlos auf aktuellen Distributionen ist, ist mir nicht ganz klar
[14:44] <jokrebel> Und das unter verschiedenen *buntus auf selbem Rechner. dhclient DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port .... (eth1) DHCPv4 request timed out.
[14:49] <jokrebel> versteh da nur Bahnhof. Vielleicht bringt auch folgende Information Euch noch auf Ideen. Als ich das LAN-Kabel an den neuen Switch umsteckte bootete dieser Rechner als hätte er ein WOL erhalten.
[14:50] <jokrebel> Da ist auch noch ein Windows drauf. Mal schaun ob das IPv4_Netzwerk hat.
[14:53] <jokrebel> Also Windows bekommt nach wie vor auch eine IPv4-Adresse.
[15:15] <holgersson> jokrebel_: Ich bombadier' Dich nochmal mit Fragen: 1. Hast Du am Ubuntu Networkmanager, wicd oder etwas ähnliches, also eine Art „Verwaltungssoftware“ für den Netzwerkkram laufen? 2. Was sagt denn "dmesg" zu der Sache? Da wäre vermutlich dmesg |tail direkt nach dem Einstecken das Sinnvollste. 3. Was sagen denn "ifconfig" bzw. "ip route" und "ip -6 route"?
[15:23] <jokrebel_> Dunkel kann ich mich erinnern, mit diese NIC (ich glaub Herstelle SiS) schon mal diverse Probleme gehabt zu haben. Reboot aller Router und Switches brachte keine Besserung. Ich glaub ich schau mal ob ich da eine PCI-Ethernet-Karte reinabuen kann.
[15:39] <jokrebel_> schau schau ;-) schon hab ich auch wieder eine IPv4 ... sch*** SiS
[15:44] <holgersson> Ja, ich hab hier auch ein NAS mit SIS-Karte und bekomme konsequent kein IPv4 über das IF geprügelt, solange ich Linux benutz.
[15:44] <hacker_> Hi
[15:45] <hacker_> wer will ddos auf googl machen?
[15:45] <k1l_> hacker_: geh woanders spielen
[15:45] <hacker_> ...
[15:48] <_moep_> das war ja einfach
[15:48] <k1l_> jo, bin jetzt auch enttäuscht :)
[15:53] <jokrebel_> holgersson: Hab nun die interne SiS deaktiviert und ein PCI-RTL reingebaut. Gebootet - geht ;-)
[15:53] <holgersson> jokrebel_: Hm, HW ersetzen ist die IMHO unschönste Lösung. Aber wenn's funktioniert… :)
[15:56] <jokrebel_> holgersson: Nachdem die mich vor Monaten/Jahren mit ählichem Problem schon mal zu weißglut brachte, bis ich es nach Tagen endlich auf allen Linuxen die da drauf sind gefixt bekam wollte ich mal nen "schnelleren" Lösungsansatz versuchen ;-/
[15:57] <jokrebel_> Und in dem Fall schein tatsächlich "schrauben" der quick&dirty Weg gewesen zu sein.
[16:26] <dakira> moin. in wie weit wird eigentlich das systemd logging bereits in Ubuntu (15.10) genutzt? /var/log/syslog ist ja noch da.
[16:26] <dakira> Wo sieht man, welche logs es so gibt?
[16:28] <ppq> dakira, es gibt glaub ich jetzt ein log-viewing-programm, journalctl. wo das seine informationen hernimmt ist mir aber nach wie vor ein rätsel
[16:38] <dakira> ppq: ich kann mir mit journalctl alle logs auf ein mal angucken. mit journalctl -u <unit> kann ich es auf "kernel" oder bspw. "vboxdrv.sh" beschränken.
[16:38] <dakira> ppq: was mit fehlt ist die Info, wo ich sehe welche "units" es gibt. ;(
[16:40] <ppq> dakira, journalctl -u [TAB][TAB] sieht vielversprechend aus :)
[16:42] <dakira> ppq: argh.. manchmal sieht man den wald vor lauter bäumen nicht ;)
[16:43] <dakira> Jetzt muss ich mich nur noch mal damit auseinander setzen, wie man mit systemd eigene dienste konfiguriert und dann bin ich zufrieden. ;)
[17:46] <k1l_> ardalrian: kannst du nicht dauernd thunderbird ausmachen, wenn du das auch für irc nutzt? :)
[17:56] <ardalrian> Interessant, wie man sofort angesprochen wird, wenn man Funktionen testet.
[18:07] <jokrebel> ardalrian: Für sowas gibt es extra #test ;-)
[18:09] <ardalrian> Oh mein Gott, also ja, es tut mir sehr leid, dass ich mich hier 3 Mal wieder eingeloggt habe.
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-uy
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[00:37] * magu42 is away: ~
[01:10] * magu42 is back (gone 00:33:02)
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-us-tx
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[04:47] <wheresdave> anyone alive?
[14:38] <thebwt> yes...
[14:39] <thebwt> :(
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-bugs
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[00:12] <bbrawner> Hi everyone, I'm looking into getting involved with the Ubuntu Development team, and I figured patching bugs would be a good place to start. Is there some way I could filter them by language though? I'm hoping to find some packages written in python that I could contribute to
[00:12] <teward> bbrawner: there's no way to filter packages by that unfortunately
[00:12] <teward> not easily
[00:13] <bbrawner> teward: Got it, thanks
[00:13] <teward> (for all intents and purposes, a "Package" is just that - a package, there's no tracking there of primary language)
[00:13] <wxl> actually you could probably make a py program to do that
[00:13] <wxl> leveraging the lp api
[00:13] <teward> wxl: if and only if the projects are all on LP and state the languages, no?
[00:13] <wxl> indeed, teward, but at least you could shake something out
[00:13] <tarpman> there's debtags, not sure LP exposes them anywhere though
[00:14] <teward> tarpman: i don't think it does
[00:14] <teward> but that's a #launchpad question
[00:14] <wxl> tl;dr use the lp api bbrawner XD
[00:14] <teward> heheh
[00:14] <tarpman> http://debtags.debian.net/search/bytag?wl=implemented-in::python anyway
[00:14] <bbrawner> wxl: I'll give it a shot
[00:14] <teward> bbrawner: ^ that from tarpman, those packages probably exist in Ubuntu and can give you startpoints
[00:15] <bbrawner> teward: tarpman: Thanks, I'll take a look at this too
[00:15] <wxl> bbrawner: see #launchpad-users for more help with that
[00:15] <tarpman> you could probably combine the LP api and debtags api and do some interesting stuff
[00:15] * wxl nods at tarpman
[00:15] <bbrawner> Haha sounds good
[00:15] <teward> wxl: s/-users//
[00:15] <teward> (there is no launchpad users channel)
[00:15] <wxl> teward: you're a liar :)
[00:16] <teward> wxl: go check it yourself
[00:16] <wxl> ok fine you win
[00:16] <wxl> it's the mailing list that's launchpad-users :/
[00:16] <teward> yep
[00:16] <teward> #launchpad is the IRC chan ;)
[14:08] <melodie> hi, just a word to say I added the packagers/maintainers in charge of libgtk3-0, on the bug report page here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[14:09] <teward> melodie: you likely shouldn't be subscribing people unless you are told to. No need to add the packagers/maintainers, usually people see these bugs...
[14:11] <melodie> teward ok, then what should I do to get the packagers to consider this seriously, even if it's marked as low?
[14:12] <teward> patience?
[14:12] <melodie> teward I am doing my best to do things the right way, and if I fail doing so once a while I'm willing to do better
[14:12] <melodie> patience : I'm very patient
[14:12] <teward> 'get the packagers to consider this seriously' is also a sign you're impatient
[14:13] <melodie> I'd like it to be fixed by the time we reach the next LTS and I know that everything takes a lot of time
[14:14] <melodie> teward I can remove them from being suscribed, however I'd like them to be aware. How Debian and Ubuntu users could built their own light and lean version if the packages get 300 or more MB unexpected and uneeded depends...
[14:15] <teward> I think you're missing some points there. If it's really that huge an issue, file in Debian first for Debian to address. If it's Ubuntu specific then update accordingly in Ubuntu, and propose a change with a patch or such. Either way, you need developers to look at it, and you will need ***Patience***
[14:15] <teward> and quite a bunch of it
[14:15] <teward> especially with UOS and sprints going on right now.
[14:16] <melodie> teward alright, I'll see if I can try something with Debian netinstall then, and reproduce the bug in Debian.
[14:17] <melodie> there is a French buddy Debian user who is willing to test around this issue during this afternoon, and I'll try to see what version we must investigate.
[14:17] <melodie> thank you for your advice
[14:18] <teward> you're welcome. :)
[14:22] <melodie> your advice are always welcome!
[14:23] <melodie> I appreciate your help a lot
[14:26] <teward> that's one of the reasons we're here though :)
[14:27] <melodie> \o/
[14:27] * melodie sends a hug to teward
[14:27] <teward> no
[14:27] <melodie> too late ^^
[14:27] <teward> fiancee will 'nuke you from orbit'(TM)
[14:27] <teward> she doesn't like others hugging me
[14:27] <teward> (I don't really like it either :P)
[14:27] <melodie> never mind I send a hug to her too
[14:28] <melodie> and advice you to take good care of her :D
[14:28] <melodie> better : you could both come in vacation in my area, this is a wonderful place
[14:29] <melodie> ok, now I have to go to other chans, thanks again and have a nice day
[14:29] <teward> melodie: good, you can pay for the vacation loljk
[14:29] <melodie> if I could I would but not being able to, I'll just offer the best adresses if you wish some in the future
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[18:05] <ibeardslee> morning
[18:16] <olly_> morning
[18:16] <olly_> morning
[18:22] <olly_> sorry, lag...
[19:15] <hads> morning
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-meeting
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[14:21] <chronologic> Mikaela: hi
[22:02] <ahoneybun> hola everyone
[22:02] * sethj waves
[22:02] <Kilos> hi sethj
[22:02] <geomint> hello
[22:02] <wxl> hai sethj
[22:02] <toddy> hi sethj
[22:02] <ahoneybun> #startmeeting
[22:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 5 22:02:55 2015 UTC. The chair is ahoneybun. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[22:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[22:03] <sethj> hey guys :)
[22:03] <ahoneybun> #startmeeting 22 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[22:03] <meetingology> ahoneybun: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
[22:03] <ahoneybun> opps
[22:03] <Kilos> uh oh
[22:03] <elacheche_anis> :)
[22:03] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[22:03] <elacheche_anis> ahoneybun: end the 2st one, then re-start it the good way
[22:03] <pleia2> hm, I don't seem to have access
[22:03] <elacheche_anis> thx pleia2 :)
[22:03] <ahoneybun> #startmeeting 22 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[22:03] <meetingology> ahoneybun: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
[22:04] <elacheche_anis> ahoneybun: execute #endmeeting first :)
[22:04] <ahoneybun> #endmeeting
[22:04] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov 5 22:04:12 2015 UTC.
[22:04] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-05-22.02.moin.txt
[22:04] <wxl> ahoneybun: do #endmeeting first
[22:04] <wxl> there we go
[22:04] <ahoneybun> #startmeeting 22 UTC Membership Board Meeting
[22:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 5 22:04:16 2015 UTC. The chair is ahoneybun. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[22:04] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[22:04] <ahoneybun> #topic Seth Johnson
[22:04] <ahoneybun> Hello and welcome to the Membership Board meeting!
[22:04] <sethj> I don't get to wear my sword? awwww
[22:04] <Kilos> haha
[22:04] * george_e puts down his sword too
[22:04] <ahoneybun> The wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting.
[22:05] <ahoneybun> If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[22:05] <ahoneybun> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[22:05] <ahoneybun> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[22:05] <ahoneybun> wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sethj
[22:05] <ahoneybun> LP: https://launchpad.net/~sethj
[22:05] <ahoneybun> Seth: please introduce yourself to the board
[22:06] <sethj> Hi, I'm Seth. I've been using Ubuntu since 11.04, although I had a live CD of 9.10 that I used for occasional tinkering before that.
[22:06] <sethj> My first introduction to the Ubuntu community was Ask Ubuntu, which I joined in early 2012, just before 12.04 iirc. In 2014 I was elected as an AU moderator.
[22:06] <sethj> Over time my work on Ask Ubuntu introduced me to the wider aspects of the community, how it worked, how it was organized, and how I could contribute. Since then I've done a little of (almost) everything: bug work, Q/A, a little dev work, some packaging, and (obviously) support.
[22:07] <sethj> and that has cumulated (so far) in this meeting :)
[22:07] <ahoneybun> super cool :)
[22:07] <Kilos> nice work sethj
[22:07] <ahoneybun> Any questions for Seth? Any supporters here?
[22:08] <toddy> sethj: which of your Ubuntu work do you love most and why?
[22:08] <george_e> I am here for Seth.
[22:08] <george_e> I am also supposed to give a shout out from jokerdino who couldn't make it here.
[22:08] <ahoneybun> awesome thanks george_e
[22:08] <sethj> toddy, ouch! Hard question. I was thinking about that before the meeting and I couldn't come to any conclusion. I love it all!
[22:08] <toddy> sethj: fine
[22:08] <elacheche_anis> that's good thing sethj
[22:08] <sethj> I guess my work on AU is what I enjoy most. I lets me interact with awesome people every day.
[22:09] * ahoneybun is a bit biased to LoCo
[22:09] <sethj> most (barely)*
[22:09] <sethj> Most of the other stuff I have done has been a little more on the loner side. Not quite so much interaction.
[22:11] <ahoneybun> #voters Kilos elacheche_anis toddy ahoneybun wxl cwayne popey hggdh
[22:11] <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: cwayne
[22:11] <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos ahoneybun cwayne elacheche_anis hggdh popey toddy wxl
[22:11] <ahoneybun> ok
[22:11] <Kilos> yip
[22:12] <ahoneybun> #votesrequired 4
[22:12] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[22:12] <ahoneybun> #vote for Seth's membership now!
[22:12] <meetingology> Please vote on: for Seth's membership now!
[22:12] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[22:12] <elacheche_anis> OK.. No more questions? Can we vote?
[22:12] <ahoneybun> here we go people
[22:12] <popey> uh
[22:13] <popey> sorry, only just got here since the ping just now
[22:13] <wxl> oops disappeared sorry
[22:13] <popey> hello sethj
[22:13] <sethj> hi popey!
[22:13] <wxl> i am certainly ready to vote
[22:13] <teward> crap i'm late, am I too late to say sethj is a wonderful asset to the community? :P
[22:13] <ahoneybun> nope
[22:13] <ahoneybun> :)
[22:13] <george_e> teward, I don't think so.
[22:13] <Kilos> too late
[22:13] <Kilos> haha
[22:14] <ahoneybun> I mean there is no timer on this
[22:14] <ahoneybun> so questions could be asked no?
[22:14] <Kilos> im happy
[22:14] <toddy> I am ready to vote
[22:14] <elacheche_anis> I'm ready to vote too :)
[22:14] <sethj> thanks teward, george_e :)
[22:14] <ahoneybun> popey: or wxl want to ask anything since I messed up?
[22:15] <popey> just reading up about sethj, sorry.
[22:15] <elacheche_anis> tyt popey we wait :)
[22:15] <wxl> sethj: i did want to offer my assistance with testing, bug management, and locos. so get in touch later on!
[22:16] <popey> Was looking at launchpad.. saw a few bug comments on the bug scrub, thanks for getting involved in that sethj !
[22:16] <sethj> wxl, That'd be awesome!
[22:16] <popey> Then I clicked your askubuntu page. No brainer, you're exactly our kind of person!
[22:16] <popey> I have no questions :)
[22:16] <teward> well then let me put my two cents in then about sethj. Seth is a great asset to the community, and strives to help all types of users, technical or newbies, with support and information and knowledge. He's been putting feelers out into the bug world for some time, asking questions and such if he's unsure, but I think he's a wonderful asset to the community. I fully support him, as a community member, in his hunt for membership status. :)
[22:16] <teward> (I never had a chance to edit his wiki for that testimonial, my apologies to the membership board)
[22:16] <wxl> sethj: i'm head of qa for lubuntu and on the loco-council so i have a bit of experience ;) feel free to email me or find me somewhere on irc and we can have a chat/pm
[22:17] <Kilos> np teward
[22:17] <popey> ahoneybun, so nothing from me.
[22:17] <popey> Lovely testimonial from oli there
[22:17] <elacheche_anis> teward: Thank you for the tetimonial :)
[22:18] <ahoneybun> +1 I'm going to vote up for sure, I look forward to discussing LoCo and maybe Ubuntu Touch stuff later
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 I'm going to vote up for sure, I look forward to discussing LoCo and maybe Ubuntu Touch stuff later received from ahoneybun
[22:18] <sethj> popey, np! The bug scrub was a great way for me to get a feel for how bug works.. err, works ;)
[22:18] <toddy> +1 - you make a lot of good work. stay on it! be a part of Ubuntu!
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 - you make a lot of good work. stay on it! be a part of Ubuntu! received from toddy
[22:18] <elacheche_anis> +1 Keep the good work sethj :)
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 Keep the good work sethj :) received from elacheche_anis
[22:18] <wxl> +1 great work so far and happy to see you excited to add more to the list of things to do!
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 great work so far and happy to see you excited to add more to the list of things to do! received from wxl
[22:18] <Kilos> +1 keep it up
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 keep it up received from Kilos
[22:18] <popey> +1
[22:18] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[22:18] <popey> That was easy.
[22:19] <ahoneybun> is that everyone?
[22:19] <elacheche_anis> think so..
[22:19] <popey> It's certainly enough to carry it :)
[22:19] <ahoneybun> good time to end elacheche_anis?
[22:19] <elacheche_anis> yep :)
[22:19] <geomint> +1
[22:19] <ahoneybun> #endvote
[22:19] <meetingology> Voting ended on: for Seth's membership now!
[22:19] <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[22:19] <meetingology> Motion carried
[22:19] <elacheche_anis> geomint: you can't vote :) :p
[22:19] <ahoneybun> super!
[22:20] * popey added sethj to ~ubuntumembers. Welcome to the club sethj, keep up the great work
[22:20] <geomint> it's ok :)
[22:20] <teward> I'd vote if I could but i already sad +1 :)
[22:20] <elacheche_anis> Congrats sethj :) :) :)
[22:20] <Kilos> welcome to the team sethj
[22:20] <george_e> \o/
[22:20] <ahoneybun> welcome on board sethj
[22:20] <elacheche_anis> thank you popey for doing that :)
[22:20] <popey> np
[22:20] <Kilos> keep it up
[22:20] <toddy> Congrats, sethj
[22:20] <geomint> congrats sethj
[22:20] <sethj> \o/
[22:20] <popey> we usually forget :)
[22:20] <sethj> thanks guys!
[22:20] <wxl> congrats sethj !
[22:20] <ahoneybun> #endmeeting
[22:20] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov 5 22:20:33 2015 UTC.
[22:20] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-05-22.04.moin.txt
[22:20] * popey goes back to sleep ;)
[22:20] <popey> thanks everyone!
[22:20] <ahoneybun> yay
[22:20] <wxl> sethj: if you have any help setting up your email forwarder or anything, feel free to ping me
[22:20] <Kilos> ty ahoneybun
[22:20] <sethj> will do wxl :)
[22:21] <ahoneybun> thanks for the understanding Kilos and elacheche_anis
[22:21] * ahoneybun grabs a beer
[22:21] <Kilos> well done ahoneybun
[22:21] <wxl> k i'm disappearing. see you later guys and thank you!
[22:21] <teward> And my apologies to the membership board again for not being diligent on giving my testimonial on Seth's wiki page
[22:21] * Kilos grabs my pillow
[22:21] <teward> (thought I'd stop by last second and throw it into the mix here since I was too busy before)
[22:21] <Kilos> np teward
[22:22] <Kilos> support here is just as good
[22:22] <ahoneybun> next time it will be better Kilos
[22:22] <popey> its always nice to have people drop by and support
[22:22] <Kilos> was a great first time
[22:23] <elacheche_anis> Thank you for charing ahoneybun :)
[22:23] <ahoneybun> elacheche_anis: caring?
[22:24] <Kilos> chairing
[22:24] <Kilos> sitting in the hot seat
[22:24] <ahoneybun> XD
[22:24] <Kilos> hehe
[22:24] <Kilos> night guys, have a good day
[22:25] <elacheche_anis> It's late here too.. GTG..
[22:25] <geomint> goodnight :)
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