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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-tn
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[08:06] <elacheche> o/
[08:38] <nabdev> o/
[08:40] <elacheche> nabdev, wassup sadi9i :)
[08:41] <elacheche> nabdev, je pense que c'est cool d'avoir des gens ici :) Mais j'aimerai bien aussi rencontrer mes amis de IRC IRL durant les events :p Tu pense nous rejoindre IRL prochainement?
[08:46] <nabdev> IRL ?
[08:50] <elacheche> In Real Life nabdev :)
[08:54] <chaker> o/ elacheche 9otlo haya lel SFD ma7abech, thana el mara el jaya ki yabda fama event nkarkro :p
[08:54] <nabdev> :) why not
[08:54] <nabdev> hhhh chaker
[08:55] <nabdev> behi inshallah
[08:55] <elacheche> chaker, you know nabdev IRL!
[08:55] <nabdev> do u know me chaker :v :p
[08:56] <elacheche> C bon thannit 3lik nabdev :)
[08:56] <nabdev> ^_^ !
[08:56] <elacheche> bill_gaag, GM dude :)
[08:56] <chaker> nabdev howa elli 9alli od5ol 3ala #ubuntu-tn
[08:57] <chaker> awal mara
[08:57] <elacheche> nabdev, le principe est que personne ne reste seul IRL :) Dรจs que tu connais au min 1 personne IRL alors y aura des occasions pour des meetings irl entre nous au autre membres de la LoCo :)
[08:59] <nabdev> network logic :) all are connect IRL or IVL
[09:00] <elacheche> Yep :) That's how people will be trusted :) โ That's my own opinion..
[10:50] <nabdev> j'ai un problรจme avec usb3.0 (laptop) to usb3.0(cable of hard external disc) pas possible de le detecte
[10:52] <elacheche> nabdev, tu trouve pas sous /dev ?
[10:54] <nabdev> sous quel nom ?
[10:54] <elacheche> Si on suppose que ton DD inerne est sda, alors cherche sd[b-z]
[10:56] <nabdev> j'ai sd[a,a1,a2,a3]
[10:57] <elacheche> change le port USB..
[10:58] <elacheche> Les connecteur USB3 des DD mรฉhomch 7รฉja :/
[10:58] <nabdev> avec 2.0 just work fin
[10:58] <elacheche> weird :/
[11:00] <nizarus> lsusb
[11:02] <nabdev> nizarus, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KmD6e3dd
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-gnome
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[15:49] <Guest48239> Hello all!
[15:50] <Guest48239> I have a question about a weird menu I get at the bottom of my Ubuntu 15.10 screen
[15:50] <Guest48239> everytime a program starts, it adds an icon to this menu (I never saw it before I ugpraded)
[15:50] <Guest48239> it has little left and right arrows to open and close it
[15:51] <JohnnyComeL8ly> This isn't the Ubuntu channel.
[15:51] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ubuntu GNOME is different. (Better, imo.)
[15:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Guest48239: ^^^
[15:59] <Guest48239> I am running Ubuntu GNOME
[15:59] <Guest48239> fuck unity!
[16:04] <Guest48239> So, back to my question...
[16:04] <Guest48239> I have a small grey menue with icons of ostensibly (some) of my running programs
[16:04] <Guest48239> it shows hexchat but not Terminal or Firefox
[16:04] <Guest48239> how do I extirpate this dumb menu?
[16:13] <Guest48239> I am running Ubuntu GNOME, I have a small grey menue with icons of some of my running programs (not all, Hexchat is there, Firefox and Terminal are not for example). I wish to extirpate this menue entirely from displaying. Does anyone have an idea of how I might do so?
[16:18] <Guest48239> does anyone even know what menue I am talking about or what its called?
[16:51] <Guest48239> I am running Ubuntu GNOME, I have a small grey menue with icons of some of my running programs (not all, Hexchat is there, Firefox and Terminal are not for example). I wish to extirpate this menue entirely from displaying. Does anyone have an idea of how I might do so?
[16:57] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Guest48239, try right clicking on it.
[16:58] <JohnnyComeL8ly> The menu, not the icons.
[16:59] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Guest48239, honestly I don't know what menu you've gotten to appear down at the bottom of the screen.
[16:59] <JohnnyComeL8ly> And please watch what you say.
[17:01] <Guest48239> does zero
[17:01] <Guest48239> what is the name of the menu or program generating it?
[17:01] <Guest48239> what is the menue called?
[17:01] <Guest48239> It is a gray menue with icons of some of the programs I am running
[17:02] <Guest48239> it is not a menue in the classical textual sense, it pops from left to right coming from the left and has only icons on it
[17:02] <Guest48239> when I move my cursor near it a small right arrow appears
[17:02] <Guest48239> when I click the arrow the menu pops out to the right
[17:04] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Wait, do you access it from the top left corner?
[17:04] <JohnnyComeL8ly> If so, that is supposed to be there.
[17:05] <Guest48239> bottom left
[17:06] <Guest48239> someone else told me its called the message tray?
[17:06] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Lemme switch OSs I'm in Xubuntu right now.
[17:14] <Guest48239> ok, thanks!
[17:23] <Guest48239> welcome back
[17:23] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Thanks.
[17:23] <Guest48239> I started hexchat, and then I see that dumb menue down there or message tray or whatever it is
[17:24] <Guest48239> I want to get rid of it entirely or move it so it doesn't overwrite the first part of the prompt when I am using gnome-terminal and am at the bottom line of the screen
[17:24] <Guest48239> I am fine to remove it entirely actually
[17:25] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm doing a qemu boot of Ubuntu GNOME... I was going to do a regulare boot, but I decided to just stay here. ;-)
[17:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I think it might not work... :-(
[17:27] <Guest48239> oh
[17:28] <Guest48239> I use vmware usually for virtualized stuff usually.
[17:28] <JohnnyComeL8ly> It wasn't working, I'm just going to switch. I've done a test for easy2boot using it, but I'm not sure why it isn't working for this.
[17:29] <Guest48239> I am using Ubuntu GNOME 15.10
[17:31] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I forgot to say, that I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 (development version of course).
[17:31] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I was using Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 dev until it got released.
[17:31] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Then I "upgraded" to Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 dev
[17:32] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Guest48239, Just give me a few minutes, I've got a disk burning right now...
[17:32] <Guest48239> oh...
[17:33] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Sorry. it is progressing quickly though.
[17:35] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Guest48239, do you know how to switch your Nick?
[17:36] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You could do something a little more personal than "Guest48239".
[17:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Guest48239, 82% done
[17:47] <cap0> Guest48239: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/967/hide-legacy-tray/
[18:48] <Guest48239> I am checking the extension now
[18:49] <Guest48239> That thing moves it, what tool must I use to remove it entirely?
[19:09] <Guest48239> That thing moves it, what tool must I use to remove it entirely?
[19:09] * Guest48239 That thing moves it, what tool must I use to remove it entirely?
[19:11] <Guest48239> I need to reboot
[19:11] <Guest48239> be right back
[21:29] <johnjohn101> when will 16.04 be on gnome 3.18?
[21:29] <johnjohn101> in the daily
[21:40] <darkxst> johnjohn101, it is getting there, maybe 80% done
[21:41] <johnjohn101> darkxst: thanks. i'm enjoying 15.10 now. seems to do well on vmware player except for an occasional xorg exception
[21:42] <darkxst> johnjohn101, fwiw vmware needs a workaround to run on a 15.10+ host atm
[21:43] <johnjohn101> will it be easier to port once unity moves to qt?
[21:44] <darkxst> slightly easier
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-server
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[08:23] <adv_> how can i add gui to ubuntu server and see it from a remote pc?
[14:04] <coreycb> beisner, jamespage, 2015.1.2 in kilo-proposed is ready to be promoted to kilo-updates in the cloud archive
[14:04] <jamespage> coreycb, all tested ok?
[14:04] <coreycb> jamespage, yep
[14:06] <jamespage> coreycb, ok promotiing
[14:07] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[14:07] <jamespage> bad spelling as well
[14:24] <jamespage> coreycb, ok pkgs accepted
[14:24] <coreycb> jamespage, great thx
[15:03] <Tracker> I have some issues suddenly with ip rule show it loops at first line. after updating and restarting the server yesterday evening.. running Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, 2 servers running 15.10 wily are working ok after updates.. allready posted.. the problems is that the command ip rule show infite loops at first line 0: from all lookup local... endless
[15:30] <Tracker> and ip rule flush jams after pressing enter.. ip rules doesnt work correctly latest ubuntu LTS after updates last evening
[15:52] <rbasak> Tracker: iproute2 hasn't been updated in 14.04 recently
[15:53] <rbasak> Tracker: can you pin down which package caused a regression if any?
[15:53] <rbasak> Tracker: /var/log/apt/history.log should be able to give you candidates.
[15:53] <rbasak> Tracker: and you can test by downgrading.
[15:54] <rbasak> Tracker: maybe kernel? You could try booting the previous kernel.
[15:57] <Tracker> rbasak, updates according to history.log Install: linux-image-3.16.0-52-generic:amd64 (3.16.0-52.71~14.04.1, automatic), linux-headers-3.16.0-52:amd64 (3.16.0-52.71~14.04.1, automatic), linux-headers-3.16.0-52-generic:amd64 (3.16.0-52.71~14.04.1, automatic), linux-image-extra-3.16.0-52-generic:amd64 (3.16.0-52.71~14.04.1, automatic) Upgrade: linux-image-generic-lts-utopic:amd64 (3.16.0.51.42, 3.16.0.52.43), linux-generic-lts-utopic:amd64 (3.1
[15:57] <rbasak> Tracker: that gets cut off. Please use a pastebin.
[15:58] <rbasak> Tracker: if your kernel got updated that sounds like a good candidate. Try booting the system with the old kernel and see if the problem reproduces. If it does not, then that's a kernel regression and so please report it.
[16:00] <Tracker> I changed the /etc/default/grub grub_default=from 0 to 1 and update-grub and reboot not working...
[16:03] <Tracker> rbasak, http://pastebin.com/NMYcncFY
[16:10] <samba35> i am not able to boot with my ubuntu server after just swapping the harddisk
[16:10] <samba35> no grub even
[16:11] <samba35> how do i fix this ,this is kvm server with 2 guests
[16:18] <Tracker> rbasak, confirmed that is a bug in kernel 3.16.0-52-generic #71~14.04.1-Ubuntu
[16:29] <Palm_premium> samba35, that disk would not happen to contain the root partition?
[16:31] <samba35> yes it has root partition intact i was able to boot with ubuntu cd with rescue mode and able to see content but fail to understand what kind partition type it was oringally when it was booting fine
[16:35] <Palm_premium> samba35, if your root parition is still present you might just be missing your grub/mbr. I would suggest running the live cd again and check with gparted if there is an active partition if not, try reinstalling grub2 to the mbr of your harddisk.
[16:36] <samba35> do i require live cd for ? is it possible to repair with resuce disk ? /installtion disk
[16:39] <Palm_premium> samba35, rescue disk is also possible, when you get to a terminal run fdisk on your disks an print the partition table, this should list a partition marked as active.
[16:39] <samba35> ok thanks
[16:41] <samba35> what i should run if i see partition ,grub-install or grub-update ? or up2date-grub ?
[16:43] <Palm_premium> samba35, Since you don't get a Grub console I expect that atleast your mbr is missing, you can recreate it with grub-install.
[16:43] <samba35> ok thanks
[16:43] <samba35> ie grub-install /dev/sda2 or x ?
[16:44] <samba35> or /sda only
[16:44] <samba35> if boot partition is on /dev/sda2
[16:45] <Palm_premium> samba35, /dev/sda, the mbr is the first record on disk.
[16:46] <samba35> ok
[16:58] <Palm_premium> samba35, I will be leaving in a few minutes. After the grub-install you should get a grub console once more, it might even boot in Ubuntu, however should you get a promp about a disk or operating system not found you should run a grub-update.
[16:58] <samba35> ok
[16:58] <samba35> brb ,will change hardisk and get back
[17:01] <samba35> brb
[17:01] <Palm_premium> Ok
[17:15] <Palm_premium> samba35, I am leaving for home, good luck.
[21:16] <decwrl> Does anyone know which package in Ubuntu 14.04 installs the Perl Net::Interface module?
[21:18] <tarpman> decwrl: there's libnet-interface-perl, but it's new in wily
[21:19] <decwrl> Ah. It may be what I want. Too bad it's in a later release.
[21:20] <tarpman> there's a backportpackage script in the ubuntu-dev-tools package, or you can file a backport request on launchpad
[21:20] <tarpman> (if you do the latter, you'll want to build and test the backport locally first anyway)
[21:21] <decwrl> Ok. I'll take a look at that. I'm surprised Net::Interface isn't already included. It's a fairly useful module.
[21:23] <tarpman> not all of cpan is packaged. AIUI, new modules are packaged mainly if some application being packaged depends on them
[21:26] <decwrl> Ok. Thanks. I'll check out the backport plan. I ran an apt-file search and didn't find anything of use, so backporting seems to be the way to go.
[21:30] <sturmflut> Does anybody on this channel happen to visit the Supercomputing conference in Austin, Texas next week? If so ping me in private, maybe we can hang out :)
[21:55] <PryMar56> sturmflut, will the last Computer Programmer, Scientist to leave please bring the flag.. they are luddites in Tx
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[10:43] <jibel> Saviq, I supposed we don't have to verify silo 48, it is xenial only, right?
[12:50] <renatu> trainguards, what is happening with this silo? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/570
[12:51] <renatu> all bug reports was marked as fix-released bug the silo still on "Proposed pocket" and the mr was not merged yet.
[12:54] <Mirv> renatu: not all, address-book-service is still in proposed and the bug is not set to fixed http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#address-book-service
[12:54] <Mirv> renatu: it might be stuck due to evolution-data-server transition
[12:55] <Mirv> yeah looks like so according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt - uninstallable packages ie rebuilds needed, desktop team probably knows about it
[12:57] <seb128> Mirv, renatu, you should probably force merge in that case, e-d-s is in a new soname transition with poppler gnome-desktop libgtop etc and that's all blocked on a binutils issue making webkit fails to be build on arm64
[12:58] <Mirv> seb128: ok then
[12:59] <renatu> seb128, Mirv , ok thanks, I will try that
[12:59] <Mirv> renatu: it's now up to trainguards only so that each case like this gets discussed
[12:59] <Mirv> renatu: so I'm running it now
[12:59] <renatu> Mirv, thanks
[13:19] <Saviq> jibel, didn't know what the approach there was, if you don't verify xenial, yes, silo 48 can go
[13:19] <Saviq> marked "Publish without QA" now
[13:48] <dobey> Mirv: hmm. who do we need to get to publish silo 26?
[13:50] <Mirv> dobey: any core-dev https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members - kenvandine for example starts to be around at this time
[13:50] <Mirv> dobey: the only change requiring core-dev rights is also in the apparmor, and done by _a core-dev_ (jamie), but it still means the silo publishing needs to be done by a core-dev
[13:51] <dobey> right; i just wasn't aware it was validating it at that level for landings to the overlay PPA
[14:01] <Mirv> yes it's the same rules for overlay nowadays
[15:40] <rvr> oSoMoN: ping
[15:46] <boiko> robru: what is up with that one? ^
[15:47] <robru> boiko: you're not authorized because of a packaging diff
[15:47] <boiko> robru: ah ok, yeah, I was expecting a "packaging changes need ack" :)
[15:47] <boiko> robru: I'll ask kenvandine to review those
[15:47] <boiko> kenvandine: would you mind checking the packaging diff on silo 000?
[15:47] <robru> boiko: "packaging changes requiring ack" is only shown to people who are authorized to give the ack
[15:48] <kenvandine> will do
[15:48] <boiko> robru: ok, it is just that the error message is not precise, as I am authorized to upload it as long as there are no packaging changes :)
[15:48] <boiko> kenvandine: thanks!
[15:49] <robru> boiko: it's perfectly precise. you are not authorized when there are packaging changes, and there are packaging changes, therefore you are not authorized. also non-mp sources require authorization
[15:51] <robru> I don't understand why this is so confusing. if you're not authorized you need to find somebody who is.
[15:51] <oSoMoN> rvr, pong, sorry was in a UOS session
[15:51] <oSoMoN> whatโs up?
[15:51] <oSoMoN> silo 6?
[15:52] <boiko> robru:well, as UI developer I got used to provide error messages that explicitly tell what went wrong, but doesn't matter much in this case, just wanted to check if it was just the packaging changes or something else
[15:52] <kenvandine> boiko, done
[15:52] <boiko> kenvandine: thanks
[15:52] <kenvandine> np
[15:53] <robru> boiko: but I feel like this is being explicit, you are not authorized. it's not like the error message is "failed: 1" or something, we have seen that in the train in the past ;-)
[15:53] <rvr> oSoMoN: Yes
[15:54] <rvr> oSoMoN: First thing, Siete app doesn't turn off the screen
[15:54] <rvr> oSoMoN: I just open the app, without starting the exercises
[15:54] <oSoMoN> rvr, let me check that
[15:55] <boiko> robru: maybe it was just not clear for me, but doesn't matter, I really just wanted to check what was going on
[15:56] <robru> boiko: ok
[15:58] <oSoMoN> rvr, siete is a pure QML app that doesnโt embed a webview, and it has ScreenSaver { screenSaverEnabled: false } in its main QML file
[15:59] <oSoMoN> rvr, the fix thatโs in oxide only affects browser and webapps
[15:59] <rvr> oSoMoN: Yeah, I was confused, but there was a change related to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-system-compositor/+bug/1502145
[16:01] <oSoMoN> rvr, the use case that is fixed in oxide is that one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-system-compositor/+bug/1502145/comments/14
[16:03] <rvr> oSoMoN: Ah, checking
[16:06] <rvr> oSoMoN: Ok, works fine
[16:07] <rvr> oSoMoN: I was checking the fix for volume while loading. It mostly works, but sometimes the browser freezes and starts playing the music, but doesn't show the video for a while
[16:09] <oSoMoN> rvr, the volume thing is a red herring, the real issue was playing a youtube video from a google search result page
[16:10] <rvr> oSoMoN: Yes, the video is played
[16:10] <oSoMoN> rvr, thatโs enough to validate the fix then :)
[16:13] <rvr> oSoMoN: Is there a test case for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1488102
[16:15] <rvr> oSoMoN: Soundcloud tracks play fine in the browser
[16:19] <oSoMoN> rvr, whatโs interesting to test is the soundcloud webapp (in the store, by alex abreu)
[16:19] <rvr> oSoMoN: Ok, let me check
[16:20] <oSoMoN> rvr, it should continue playing while in the background, and it should also allow seeking in the track
[16:21] <rvr> oSoMoN: what's the name of the app?
[16:21] <rvr> There are not results for "souncloud"
[16:21] <rvr> meh
[16:21] <oSoMoN> soun*d*cloud :)
[16:21] <rvr> Bad typing
[16:21] <rvr> Thanks
[16:23] <rvr> oSoMoN: Cool, it plays on the background. Although it cannot be paused/played with the MPRIS controls in the sound indicator.
[16:24] <oSoMoN> rvr, thatโs probably a bug elsewhere in the stack, maybe in the sound indicator?
[16:25] <oSoMoN> rvr, Iย gotta go offline very soon, Iโll be back online in the evening, in the meantime if you have questions about silo 6 dbarth should be able to help
[16:27] <rvr> oSoMoN: Cool
[16:39] <dobey> kenvandine: can you publish silo 26 please?
[16:40] <dobey> sil2100: were you trying to get cordev btw?
[16:40] <kenvandine> dobey, i'll look
[16:40] <dobey> kenvandine: it has apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu in it, which requires coredev to publish it seems. thanks
[16:41] <sil2100> dobey: yeah, will re-try shortly
[16:41] <kenvandine> there are several packaging changes though
[16:41] <dobey> kenvandine: to?
[16:42] <dobey> pay-service?
[16:42] <kenvandine> yeah
[16:42] <kenvandine> and ubuntu-push
[16:42] <dbarth> o/
[16:42] <kenvandine> did a core-dev review those already?
[16:42] <dobey> pay-service was rewritten in go
[16:42] <dbarth> (for silo 6 and what oSoMon said)
[16:43] <dobey> kenvandine: i haven't pinged anyone to ack the packaging changes. you can do that too if it's needed :)
[16:43] <kenvandine> ok
[16:43] <dobey> oh yeah, the packaging changes in ubuntu-push are to make it build with gccgo
[16:43] <kenvandine> those like simple
[16:43] <jgdx> anything up with the train?
[16:43] <kenvandine> pay-service is a much bigger change ;)
[16:43] <jgdx> cant log int
[16:43] <dobey> yeah, pay-service is mostly a lot of deps changes
[16:44] <kenvandine> dobey, i need to pop out for lunch, i'll review when i get back
[16:44] <dobey> because of rewriting it in go
[16:44] <kenvandine> understood
[16:44] <dobey> kenvandine: ok, i'm heading out to lunch too :)
[16:44] <jgdx> trainguards: I can't log into https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/ -- I'm never taken to sso
[16:45] <robru> jgdx: works for me, just tested it right now. can you sign in to other SSO sites?
[16:45] <jgdx> robru, /me tries
[16:46] <jgdx> robru, okay, now it works. Don't I feel stupid
[16:46] <robru> jgdx: hehe, no worries
[17:02] <sil2100> jibel: we'll be ther ein a minute
[17:02] <sil2100> rvr, davmor2: ^
[17:03] <boiko> robru: why telephony-service is listed as "Not considered" in the excuses page?
[17:03] <boiko> robru: is it related to the unity8 tests that are running?
[17:03] <sil2100> Probably
[17:04] <sil2100> jibel: we're there
[17:05] <sil2100> boiko: yeah, the autopkgtests are still running
[17:05] <sil2100> Once those are done it might become a Valid Candidate
[17:07] <boiko> sil2100: cool! thanks
[18:58] <kenvandine> dobey, why change the dir for pay-service?
[18:58] <kenvandine> -usr/lib/*/pay-service/pay-service
[18:58] <kenvandine> +usr/lib/*/pay-service/pay-service-2
[18:59] <kenvandine> it's not a versioned lib
[19:00] <dobey> kenvandine: huh? the dir isn't changed
[19:00] <dobey> kenvandine: that's the binary name
[19:01] <kenvandine> oh, well why change the binary name?
[19:01] <dobey> kenvandine: i didn't change it back yet. we started doing some of this work in wily a couple months ago. it currently has both versions in wily (but the go version is incomplete so not really used there)
[19:02] <dobey> (and we don't ship wily phones anyway)
[19:06] <kenvandine> dobey, so it was renamed for wily? but it doesn't need to be?
[19:07] <dobey> kenvandine: well, really it doesn't matter what the name is. it's a dbus activated service, not something people run by hand
[19:07] <kenvandine> dobey, understood
[19:08] <kenvandine> just being picky :)
[19:08] <dobey> but yes, it was named -2 for the time being, so we could keep both versions building/working
[19:08] <kenvandine> dobey, i started out being concerned that it was expected to be parallel installed, etc
[19:08] <dobey> nah, nothing that complex :)
[19:08] <kenvandine> ok
[19:08] <kenvandine> it's fine then
[19:08] <dobey> both versions are in the same package in wily
[21:25] <oSoMoN> trainguards: silo 6 has been validated by QA and is ready for landing, itโs targetted at vivid only but there are leftover wily packages in the silo, is that gonna be a problem?
[21:30] <robru> oSoMoN: no, packages in the ppa for a different series than what bileto is configured for will be ignored. that's a relatively new change, before a few weeks ago, any packages in a series other than what was configured in bileto would be copied to overlay ppa.
[21:38] <oSoMoN> robru, excellent, so Iโll trigger publication
[21:38] <robru> oSoMoN: be my guest!
[21:38] <oSoMoN> robru, did I ever thank you for your work on bileto?
[21:38] <oSoMoN> in any case, thanks again :)
[21:39] <robru> oSoMoN: haha probably, I've come a long way since pyexiv huh? ;-)
[21:39] <oSoMoN> so have I :)
[21:40] <robru> oSoMoN: yeah!
[21:41] <robru> oSoMoN: oh god, it's oxide. let's see if it diffs correctly ;-)
[21:41] <robru> oSoMoN: will probably take 15 minutes to diff
[21:42] <robru> oSoMoN: ah the build job has a successful diff. crazy how hard it's been to keep oxide diffing consistently.
[22:09] <oSoMoN> mterry, kenvandine: Iย need a core-dev to upload oxide to the overlay PPA (silo 6), could one of you guys handle it?
[22:11] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, looking
[22:13] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, do you know if there are packaging changes?
[22:13] <kenvandine> it'll take a while to get the diff here :)
[22:14] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, no packaging changes
[22:14] <kenvandine> cool
[22:14] <kenvandine> i clicked publish
[22:14] <kenvandine> :)
[22:48] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, thanks!
[22:51] <oSoMoN> robru, huh, oxide went to the vivid archive (and is now sitting in the unapproved queue) instead of the overlay PPA
[22:51] <oSoMoN> Iย guess the PPA field of the request wasnโt set
[22:51] <robru> oSoMoN: correct
[22:51] <oSoMoN> robru, can we undo this, and publish again to the PPA?
[22:52] <robru> oSoMoN: publishing to overlay ppa is only automatic for duals.
[22:52] <robru> oSoMoN: you'll have to ask in #ubuntu-release to have the -proposed version deleted
[22:52] <kenvandine> ugh
[22:52] <kenvandine> need me to publish again?
[22:52] <oSoMoN> not very consistent, but it makes sense
[22:52] <robru> oSoMoN: but if you change the ticket then kenvandine can publish again
[22:52] <oSoMoN> ok, let me do those two things
[22:53] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, i need to step away for a bit... but i can hang out long enough to click publish again
[22:53] <robru> oSoMoN: yeah it's tricky. duals have to be more automatic because two different packages go to two different places. if you're just publishing to vivid though, it's possible that you really do want to SRU into vivid proper, so we can't just say "vivid is always overlay"
[22:53] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, I updated the ticket, can you publish again?
[22:53] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, done!
[22:53] <kenvandine> now i need to run... i'll check in later
[22:53] <robru> kenvandine: thanks
[22:53] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, but hopefully you'll be gone by then... it's late for you!
[22:53] <oSoMoN> robru, yeah that makes sense, I should have checked the request first (was initially filed by dbarth)
[22:54] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, thanks! thatโs ok, my daughter is sick so Iโm not gonna sleep much anywayโฆ
[22:54] <robru> oSoMoN: please file a bug against lp:bileto that says something like "display giant warning when dest ppa field is blank"
[22:54] <oSoMoN> robru, will do
[22:55] <robru> oSoMoN: thanks
[23:02] <oSoMoN> robru, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bileto/+bug/1513649
[23:12] <robru> oSoMoN: thanks
[23:20] <oSoMoN> robru, what does "Migration: oxide-qt is in the silo (not yet published)." mean? Iโm not seeing oxide-qt 1.10.4-0ubuntu1~overlay1 in the overlay PPA
[23:21] <robru> oSoMoN: publish failed because kenvandine forgot to check ACK_PACKAGING on the second run
[23:21] <oSoMoN> darn, publishing this silo is like the neverending story
[23:21] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, still around?
[23:22] <robru> oSoMoN: it seems that there are packaging changes vs. overlay ppa even if there weren't for vivid SRU
[23:22] <robru> which strikes me as a bit odd...
[23:26] <robru> oSoMoN: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-006-2-publish/117/artifact/oxide-qt_packaging_changes.diff/*view*/ does this look right to you? oxide 1.9 -> 1.10? and stuff vendored in three levels deep?
[23:27] <oSoMoN> checking
[23:29] <oSoMoN> robru, aha, those packaging changes are inside the chromium source tree, they could probably be excluded when creating the source tarball, but they are meaningless in any case
[23:30] <oSoMoN> and unused
[23:30] <oSoMoN> the code that generates the diff and checks for packaging changes should probably discard changes to directories named "debian/" if they are not at the root of the tree
[23:32] <robru> oSoMoN: it's horrifying that chromium source tree contains a debian package.
[23:32] <oSoMoN> agreed
[23:33] <oSoMoN> the chromium source tree contains the entire known universe, and more
[23:33] <robru> oSoMoN: http://e.lvme.me/pzv5j7l.jpg
[23:33] <oSoMoN> :)
[23:34] <oSoMoN> Iโm gonna go get some rest if Iย can, hopefully kenvandine can publish again when heโs back
[23:35] <oSoMoN> โnight all
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[06:27] <pitastrudl> jutro
[06:27] <pitastrudl> ha! prvi
[06:27] <pitastrudl> (เธ อ อ ยฐ อูอ อกยฐ)เธ แดแด แด
แดษดษขแดส, แดส ษดแดแด แดแด แด
แดษดษขแดส (เธ อ อ ยฐ อูอ อกยฐ)เธ
[06:32] <napsy> jutro
[07:42] <netkat> https://protonmaildotcom.wordpress.com/ dobro d mam tam sam en racun
[07:42] <Pepelka> ProtonMail | End-to-End Encrypted Email, Based in Switzerland
[07:42] <Pepelka> ยปEnd-to-End Encrypted Email, Based in Switzerlandยซ
[09:23] <CrazyLemon> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11863489_10153744415062269_4822845836732586700_n.jpg?oh=a521700e3d1bbd0c6692193bffe62423&oe=56C1A59A&__gda__=1454529726_11c90ac787ab2f5fffd33635025f5fb8
[09:24] <CrazyLemon> 1.1m = 200โฌ
[09:27] <speed-> lol
[09:28] <speed-> kaj so fuknjeni
[09:28] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: to si ti dobil?
[09:28] <Sky[x]> niso normalni vec res
[09:28] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny nope.. sam me ne preseneฤa ฤe bi dobu
[09:29] <CrazyLemon> 25m pri 50km/h je niฤ :)
[09:29] <napsy> wau bravo
[09:29] <CrazyLemon> mislim..je dosti in verjetno ne upoลกtevam tega
[09:29] <CrazyLemon> :D
[09:29] <napsy> celo kaznovat so zacel
[09:29] <CrazyLemon> razumem da to merijo na AC..ampak na lokalnih cestah.. pri 50km/h pa je kr neki
[09:30] <napsy> CrazyLemon: zakaj pa ne
[09:30] <napsy> zaletis se lahka prav tako
[09:30] <napsy> dst je kretenov ki ti po lokalni vozijo za ritjo
[09:30] <CrazyLemon> napsy seveda.. ampak kje bo veฤ ลกkode in hujลกe posledice :)
[09:30] <napsy> ma kurc
[09:31] <napsy> tut pri 50 je avto ko puding ce se zaletis
[09:31] <napsy> sam to folku ni jasn
[09:31] <CrazyLemon> 50km/h je lokalni promet.. zdaj razmisli kako bi bilo v ljubljani ฤe bi bilo med avti 25m :)
[09:32] <napsy> zakaj ne, ce je kolona si tak vedno pod 30
[09:32] <CrazyLemon> 30 avtov pa napolniลก dunajsko cesto :D
[09:32] <napsy> ce se lahka 50 vozis ocitno ni kolone
[09:32] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: kolk je pa kazen?
[09:32] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny 200โฌ
[09:33] <CrazyLemon> napsy koliko krat preveriลก ฤe si na 'pravilni' varnostni razdalji? :)
[09:33] <napsy> js celo pazim na to
[09:33] <napsy> sm vidu kok zgleda ce kdo pred tab na polno zabremza
[09:33] <dz0ny> zihr ne tko toฤno :D
[09:33] <napsy> ti pa 5 metrov stran
[09:33] <CrazyLemon> pazimo vsi..mene zanima koliko krat preveriลก
[09:33] <CrazyLemon> in naredi 2s test
[09:33] <CrazyLemon> narediลก*
[09:34] <napsy> nikol, mam razdaljo po obcutku
[09:34] <CrazyLemon> upam da je obฤutek kalibriran..ker ฤe odstopa za 1m si ga naj... :>
[09:34] <napsy> mam
[09:36] <napsy> mislim ok, 1 meter je res krneki
[09:37] <dz0ny> ne 1m 110cm+-15cm
[09:38] <dz0ny> kolkr ma lidar napako
[09:48] <CrazyLemon> https://www.endomondo.com/home
[09:48] <Pepelka> Endomondo
[09:48] <CrazyLemon> lol
[09:48] <CrazyLemon> ah..je ลพe up again
[09:48] <CrazyLemon> (apache tomcat error - 500)
[10:16] <zdobersek> https://www.dnevnik.si/1042723678/mnenja/kolumne/vzamem-predsednika-republike-za-svojo-drugo-zeno
[10:17] <napsy> it isn't load
[10:17] <napsy> Ta mesec ste ลพe porabili kvoto 5 brezplaฤnih ogledov vsebin
[10:17] <napsy> foo
[10:17] <zdobersek> REMEMBER REMEMBER
[10:24] <napsy> tko
[10:25] <zdobersek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9gYhnUKehU
[10:25] <Pepelka> V for Vendetta 1812 Overture opening and ending scene - YouTube
[10:25] <Pepelka> ยปBrilliant part where V blows up the Old Bailey then Parliament with the 1812 overture playing in the backgroundยซ
[10:25] <zdobersek> NOT ANYMORE
[10:26] <napsy> meh
[10:27] <zdobersek> u wot m8
[10:32] <pitastrudl> zdobersek je meme maskota tega kanala
[10:32] <pitastrudl> <3
[10:32] <zdobersek> YES
[10:32] <zdobersek> HIS MUSIC
[10:34] <zdobersek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgOGl_OWOqg
[10:34] <Pepelka> Tchaikovsky's famous 1812 Overture Part 1 - YouTube
[10:34] <Pepelka> ยปTchaikovsky's famous 1812 Overture performed by the Hallรฉ Orchestra, conducted by Mark Elder at the Royal Albert Hall during the Nations Favourite Prom 2004 ...ยซ
[10:34] <zdobersek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW4C2h3lPac
[10:34] <Pepelka> Tchaikovsky's famous 1812 Overture Part 2 - YouTube
[10:34] <Pepelka> ยปConcluding part too Tchaikovsky's famous 1812 Overture performed by the Hallรฉ Orchestra, conducted by Mark Elder at the Royal Albert Hall during the Nations ...ยซ
[10:34] <idioterna> mhm
[10:35] <idioterna> dons je 16 let odkar nisn ledig
[10:35] <zdobersek> 'ledig'?
[10:35] <idioterna> ledig und frei
[10:35] <idioterna> bachelor
[10:36] <idioterna> OF SCIENCE
[10:36] <CrazyLemon> !t de en ledig
[10:36] <Pepelka> single
[10:36] <CrazyLemon> oh..it works
[10:37] <idioterna> science always works
[10:43] <zdobersek> cak, to si zdej povedu kokr da si odjebu znanost in sel k menihom
[10:44] <idioterna> ja zdej sm jebac of science al kva
[10:47] <zdobersek> ne vem, al si takrat faks pustu al se porocil
[10:47] <zdobersek> al se zavezu Darwinu al kaj
[10:49] <idioterna> all of the above
[10:49] <idioterna> sam to vse na tak
[10:49] <idioterna> skrajno neresn nacin
[10:50] <zdobersek> as you do
[10:57] <msev-1> Aj ksn zobar kle :)
[10:57] <zdobersek> tis the channel, eh
[10:58] <zdobersek> no, niti ne
[10:58] <zdobersek> mogoce je kaksn v #ezobarji na sioffu
[11:02] <msev-1> Zanimivo
[11:55] <zdobersek> ping
[11:55] <zdobersek> jabuk?
[11:55] <zdobersek> halo ?
[11:57] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ^
[11:57] <zdobersek> ping
[11:57] <jabuk> zdobersek: pong
[11:57] <zdobersek> tnx
[11:57] <zdobersek> tnx dz0ny
[11:58] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 8.km JZ od BREลฝIC @05/11/2015 10:47:22 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.85+N,+15.53+E
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> fu! thank me! i highlighted him!
[12:00] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: tnx lemon
[12:00] <zdobersek> my #1 ProxyLemon
[12:01] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek yw <3
[12:17] <CrazyLemon> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3rfukp/i_really_need_advice/
[12:17] <Pepelka> I really need advice. : linux
[12:17] <Pepelka> ยปI don't know if this is really the place, but I really need advice. I am currently 16 years old. Two years ago, my parents bought me a rather nice...ยซ
[12:21] <pitastrudl> lmao
[12:21] <pitastrudl> kakลกen firewall to folk kupuje
[12:21] <pitastrudl> wtf
[12:22] <pitastrudl> svaลกta folk dfela
[12:22] <pitastrudl> dela*
[12:22] <napsy> 120/leto
[12:22] <napsy> al dve leti
[12:23] <pitastrudl> ja sam kakลกen firewall to, ne razumem, pa kaj ti bo pomagal proti phishingu
[12:23] <napsy> eh je dal linux gor, je ze tak zajebu vse
[12:41] <zdobbie> .yt boy have you lost your mind
[12:41] <jabuk> The Office: boy have you lost your mind? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUJV752DxXk
[12:49] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[12:49] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 15.3ยฐC @05.11.2015 12:30 UTC.
[12:49] <jabuk> Vlaลพnost: 80% severozahodnik 2.4 m/s (8.6 km/h)
[12:49] <zdobersek> go boy!
[12:49] <jabuk> Sonฤni vzhod: 05:50:49, Kulminacija: 10:49:56, Sonฤni zahod: 15:49:04
[12:49] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 58min 15s, Luna je v ลกฤipu
[12:49] <zdobersek> se za mene
[12:49] <CrazyLemon> not the prettiest of days
[12:50] <zdobersek> but the winter is coming
[12:50] <CrazyLemon> but fog sux
[12:50] <CrazyLemon> and its sunny
[12:50] <CrazyLemon> and it sux
[12:50] <zdobersek> you know what Shia says!
[12:50] <CrazyLemon> i know
[12:50] <CrazyLemon> i'll do it
[12:50] <zdobersek> THEN WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR
[12:50] <CrazyLemon> but ..you know
[12:50] <zdobersek> MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE
[12:50] <zdobersek> JUST
[12:50] <zdobersek> DO
[12:50] <zdobersek> IT
[12:50] <CrazyLemon> ฤakam da bo ura 14.00
[12:50] <zdobersek> *** does the pose *** hnnnng
[12:51] <CrazyLemon> tako da ne rabim plaฤat parking :D
[12:51] <zdobersek> ... kak parking
[12:51] <zdobersek> sej si kolesar
[12:51] <CrazyLemon> ja..ma ne kolesarim po tej tukaj meddrลพavni cesti
[12:52] <CrazyLemon> coz you know..italijani pa hrvati ...
[12:52] <zdobersek> so what!
[12:52] <zdobersek> jst zivim ob nekdanji rimski transverzali
[12:52] <zdobersek> doesn't stop me!
[12:53] <CrazyLemon> lol
[12:53] <CrazyLemon> .vreme celje
[12:53] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 15ยฐC @05.11.2015 12:00 UTC.
[12:53] <jabuk> Vlaลพnost: 56% zahodnik 0.6 m/s (2.2 km/h) delno oblaฤno
[12:53] <jabuk> Sonฤni vzhod: 05:46:15, Kulminacija: 10:43:47, Sonฤni zahod: 15:41:20
[12:53] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 55min 05s, Luna je v ลกฤipu
[12:53] <zdobersek> (04:49:34 AM) zdobersek: se za mene
[12:53] <CrazyLemon> mmmmmhmm
[12:53] <CrazyLemon> boljลกi vremenski pogoji.. ni italijanov in hrvatov na cesti
[12:53] <CrazyLemon> you are missing out man
[12:53] <zdobersek> you'd be surprised
[12:57] <CrazyLemon> i disagree
[12:59] <CrazyLemon> off i go... dont miss me too much
[12:59] <zdobersek> lol how could I
[12:59] <CrazyLemon> stop pretending..you are not fooling anyone
[13:00] <zdobersek> fuck off <3
[13:00] <CrazyLemon> :>
[13:05] <napsy> je kdo nameraval nabavt one plus x?
[13:05] <zdobersek> lol no
[13:05] <jabuk> https://i.imgur.com/BiSkH5D.png
[13:05] <zdobersek> overhyped
[13:06] <napsy> js sm dobu prejle invite
[13:17] <napsy> ce rabi kdo naj pove
[13:19] <dz0ny> napsy: everyone http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=1%20%2B%20sex
[13:19] <Pepelka> Google Trends
[13:19] <Pepelka> ยปEntdecken Sie mit Google Trends aktuelle Trends in der Google-Suche.ยซ
[13:22] <zdobersek> LOL
[14:09] <upd> http://i.imgur.com/VNJDpTR.jpg
[14:11] <yang> kul
[14:12] <yang> vseskozi sem imel obcutek da je angleski jezik bolj pogost
[14:12] <yang> verjetno je najpogosyejsi drugi jezik
[14:18] <yang> pr german so pozabli na avstrijo in luxemburg
[14:24] <zdobersek> pa amise v USA
[14:28] <yang> ja
[15:47] <dz0ny> .yt i don't even care about you
[15:47] <jabuk> Robert Glasper - I Don't Even Care (Live At Capitol Studios) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9fJ97sF0qA
[15:47] <dz0ny> .yt i don't even care about you missio
[15:47] <jabuk> HALLOWEEN IN SANDWICHBAR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGdSmmHhylQ
[15:47] <dz0ny> nope
[15:48] <dz0ny> https://soundcloud.com/missiomusic/i-dont-even-care-about-you
[15:48] <Pepelka> I Don't Even Care About You by Missio | Free Listening on SoundCloud
[15:48] <Pepelka> ยปDark Electronic//Trip-Hop Spotify - http://spoti.fi/1MEk7icยซ
[15:48] <CrazyLemon> napsy kul cena.. kul naprava ampak glass sux
[15:49] <dz0ny> https://soundcloud.com/heyofelia/ofelia-k-gone-1
[15:49] <Pepelka> Ofelia K - Gone by Ofelia K | Free Listening on SoundCloud
[15:49] <Pepelka> ยปHead over to Hype Machine and leave a "Heart" for the song! http://awe.sm/aMejqNew single "Gone" by Ofelia KAvailable everywhere September 25th via South By Sea Musicwww.ofeliak.comwww.southxsยซ
[15:49] <matjaz> dz0ny: :thumbsup: Missio je kul
[15:54] <dz0ny> .sc sparky signals
[15:54] <jabuk> Sparky - Signals(5 minut) https://soundcloud.com/nmbrs/sparky-signals-nmbrs43 โฅ490 โถ9,902
[16:15] <idioterna> http://i.imgur.com/F2YmXRs.gif
[16:46] <CrazyLemon> https://twitter.com/tyschew/status/662198781123928064
[16:46] <Pepelka> tamo neki auf Twitter: "Lesena kocka, ki jo daลก ven. Notri je poseben senzor, ki ti v aplikacijo na mobilcu poลกlje obvestilo,a je dan al noฤ. #daynight #kicksmarter"
[16:47] <CrazyLemon> ahaha
[16:58] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny not bad :)
[17:29] <Grega> a lahko kak ugotovim kateri nick to nabija?
[17:29] <Grega> 17:23 -SaslServ(SaslServ@services.)- <sasl> failed to login to Grega. There have been 355 failed login attempts since your last succ
[17:31] <Grega> da mu povem geslo, ker se mi revฤek smili :)
[17:32] <upd_> vrjetno se najde velik ljudi k hoฤejo imet tak nick, pa ลกe kak bot
[17:34] <Grega> to se pa popolnoma strinjam
[17:34] <Grega> kdo pa ne bi rad bil Grega ;)
[17:34] <upd_> sej imaลก +r ane
[17:34] <matjaz> msg nicklist listlogins
[17:34] <matjaz> pomojem bo to to?
[17:34] <matjaz> nickserv*
[17:35] <matjaz> aja ne to samo uspeลกne pokaลพe
[17:35] <Grega> mhm..
[17:36] <upd_> ja paฤ ne smejo prikazat ipjev drugih, najbolลก da daลก na ignore
[17:36] <Grega> nick bi lahko napisali, da ga pozdravim in mu dam kakลกno uganko ;) saj ok.. ni sile
[18:02] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiR8_yc-vts
[18:02] <Pepelka> AutoErotique - Be There - YouTube
[18:02] <Pepelka> ยปLucid Plain Facebook https://www.facebook.com/LucidPlain SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/lucid-plain - Auto Erotique https://soundcloud.com/autoerotique ht...ยซ
[18:02] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ^ this is much better
[18:02] <CrazyLemon> kot pa tist tvoj thumbalina :D
[18:09] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny hoฤeลก sliลกat smth funny?
[18:09] <CrazyLemon> tist tvoj peerflix ubije TV stream :D
[18:18] <upd_> CrazyLemon, toj to! tuc tuc
[18:30] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: lol
[18:31] <dz0ny> verjetn ker se gre port punching
[18:31] <dz0ny> kater modem pa maลก
[18:31] <dz0ny> un zykel
[18:32] <dz0ny> tam wlan rkne ce prenanลกaลก 1gb file po 5min
[18:56] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny innbox
[18:57] <CrazyLemon> imho poฤepne ker je preveฤ povezav
[18:57] <CrazyLemon> pol ko ugasnem..pa tv ฤudeลพno spet dela
[18:58] <CrazyLemon> zanimivo pa je to da ฤe zalaufam popcorntime pa all good
[18:58] <CrazyLemon> pa opazil sem da tist peerflix nekaj z wget ฤara
[19:06] <CrazyLemon> WOTD: persimmon
[19:53] <dz0ny> wget?
[19:53] <dz0ny> where?
[19:54] <dz0ny> mislim nastavi ne max ลกtevila pvoezav
[19:54] <dz0ny> ko se poveลพe v dht
[20:27] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny how..sej ni nikjer nastavitve
[21:24] <msev-> a zna kdo rusk od vs
[21:31] <idiotern1> znam
[21:31] <idiotern1> ampak morm gor
[21:31] <idiotern1> bbl
[21:38] <CrazyLemon> ant man is aight
[21:39] <CrazyLemon> the girl is hawt tho
[21:39] <CrazyLemon> .imdb evangeline lilly
[21:40] <msev-> zanimiv da ful folka zna rusk
[21:40] <msev-> :D
[21:41] <msev-> na vsakmu od treh kanalov k sm praลกov se je en javu
[21:41] <msev-> :D
[21:42] <CrazyLemon> glede na to da je kok..ene 200 mio rusko govoreฤih ljudi na svetu
[21:42] <CrazyLemon> bi dejal da ja..kr neki ljudi zna rusko :)
[21:43] <pitastrudl> lol
[21:46] <upd_> ma ke pa je ruลกฤina uporabna
[22:12] <msev-> ej dz0ny tist k si mi napisal za 2 - 3way switcha, a to faila ฤe je prkloplen sam 1 3-way switch
[22:12] <msev-> a vseen nadaljuje
[22:13] <msev-> k mi ลกe iz kitajske potuje switch lol
[22:13] <msev-> ta drug
[22:14] <msev-> dobu sm compile warninge, ne kompajla
[22:15] <msev-> mi morลก povedat kje sm failov v copypastanju :D
[22:38] <msev-> noฤ :D bom jutr praลกov :D
[23:10] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny tale tvoj gobu ni permanent ane?
[23:10] <dz0ny> nope
[23:10] <dz0ny> mislim ko ga naslednjiฤ poลพeneลก boลก na istem kot prej
[23:13] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ja.. ampak moram met vedno tist bash script ane?
[23:17] <CrazyLemon> anyway.. peerflix je pofixal da se vlc odpre
[23:17] <CrazyLemon> tudi na ubuntuju
[23:20] <CrazyLemon> nฤ..ln
[23:24] <upd> http://mojaleta.si/Clanek/To-je-uganka-ki-jo-skoraj-nihce-ne-uspe-resiti 0.o
[23:24] <Pepelka> To je uganka, ki jo skoraj nihฤe ne uspe reลกiti! - MojaLeta.si
[23:24] <Pepelka> ยปDobro preberite navodila in poskuลกajte reลกiti to uganko, ki je mnogim nereลกljiva. Pravilen odgovor uspe najti le pribliลพno deset odstotkov ljudi. Spadate mednje?ยซ
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-uos-overflow
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[14:07] <Amarantine> Test
[14:09] <Amarantine> ist ehe 5th of November 3:08 sm aandere i miss ehe javaScript hands-on
[14:10] <Amarantine> +scopes
[14:11] <Amarantine> my phone does not interact good wwith this irc client
[14:44] <davidcalle> alex-abreu, marcustomlinson, https://hangouts.google.com/call/qi7heh35xv2zoki22n3g2myisya
[14:45] * davidcalle gets a coffee, brb
[14:52] <davidcalle> Hey aquarius :)
[14:52] <aquarius> now, THIS session I have been looking forward to.
[14:53] <aquarius> For two years. At least. :-)
[14:55] <davidcalle> aquarius, same :)
[14:59] <davidcalle> We will start in 2 min
[15:01] <popey> hehe aquarius
[15:03] <ara> o/
[15:03] <popey> o/
[15:04] <aquarius> I got 50p says the answer ends up being node. :)
[15:05] <davidcalle> aquarius :)
[15:05] <aquarius> I win!
[15:07] <aquarius> hm, this is interesting; will my JS scope be able to bundle arbitrary node libraries? If so, that'd be delightful
[15:08] <alecu> aquarius: yes, you'll be able to bundle any node libraries. Let's ask marcus afterwards if binary modules are already supported
[15:09] <alecu> aquarius: pure js modules are of course already supported
[15:09] * davidcalle notes question for later
[15:09] <aquarius> oh, I have a bunch of questions :)
[15:12] <aquarius> woah. Binary modules are supported? Was not expecting that!
[15:12] <alecu> question answered :-)
[15:16] <ara> I can imagine that this is going to boost the number of scopes in the store
[15:17] <pstolowski> awesome stuff
[15:22] <ara> what project, sorry?
[15:22] <ara> (examples)
[15:22] <aquarius> lp:unity-js-scopes
[15:22] <davidcalle> ara, unity-js-scopes
[15:22] <ara> ta
[15:23] <alecu> "javascriptonic" ?
[15:24] <ara> is this available in 14.04? or 15.10 only?
[15:24] <alecu> this might be a better starting point: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/developing-scopes-javascript/
[15:24] <alecu> ara: this is for unity8, so currently it's for the phone
[15:24] <ara> yes, I mean the SDK :)
[15:24] <davidcalle> ara, 15.04 and up
[15:25] <alecu> ah, great
[15:25] <davidcalle> Is the font big enough for everyone?
[15:25] <ara> not for me :/
[15:26] <aquarius> I can't read any of that at all
[15:26] <alecu> davidcalle: yes, please ask alex to increase the font
[15:27] <ara> or a lot :)
[15:27] <ara> much better :)
[15:27] <davidcalle> :)
[15:33] <marcustomlinson> that scope hasn't got art set, hence the error :)
[15:33] <marcustomlinson> typically you'd be required to try,catch over those methods
[15:43] <pstolowski> the scope code looks pretty neat
[15:43] <aquarius> roughly the same as the C++ API, which is nice.
[15:46] <davidcalle> aquarius, indeed, and with npm libs bundled in your click, you can do very feature-heavy scopes very quickly. My first go at it ended up in a movie search engine, with cover art and download link in less than 50 lines.
[15:46] <aquarius> :)
[15:47] <aquarius> gaah, cmake fails :(
[15:47] <pstolowski> marcustomlinson spoiled us with these bindings
[15:48] <pstolowski> people will never look back at C++ api :/
[15:50] <aquarius> oh, I have some questions :-)
[15:50] <aquarius> QUESTION: when will the documentation for this be published to developer.ubuntu.com? And will there be tutorials as well as just the API documentation that's currently in the project?
[15:50] <aquarius> QUESTION: when will the unity-js-scopes module be published to npm?
[15:50] <aquarius> QUESTION: will nodejs be exposed to apps as well so I can write QML apps which include a node back end (not a C++ back end)?
[15:50] <davidcalle> aquarius, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/developing-scopes-javascript/
[15:50] <aquarius> ha! you are gorgeous human beings.
[15:51] <alex-abreu> pstolowski, :)
[15:53] <aquarius> fair enough; it was worth asking ;)
[15:53] <aquarius> QUESTION: unity-js-scopes-dev doesn't exist in the PPA :(
[15:54] <aquarius> sudo apt install unity-js-scopes-dev -> E: Unable to locate package unity-js-scopes-dev
[15:54] <alecu> the api docs are already available on the -doc package, right?
[15:54] <alex-abreu> alecu, yes
[15:54] <aquarius> I have added the staging PPA.
[15:54] <aquarius> I'm running 14.04
[15:55] <aquarius> what?
[15:55] <aquarius> I can't run the LTS?
[15:55] <aquarius> oh. :-(
[15:55] <aquarius> Thank you anyway, team. This looks good.
[15:56] <alecu> bye guys!
[15:56] <alecu> marcustomlinson: alex-abreu: great session!
[15:56] <ara> thanks! bye!
[15:56] <alex-abreu> thx you guys
[15:56] <marcustomlinson> yeah thanks!
[16:13] <justCarakas> no video ?
[18:00] <ian-weisser> Getting the hangout going....
[18:03] <BrianLinuxing2> Evening all :)
[18:04] <ian-weisser> Almost there....
[18:04] <BrianLinuxing2> I shall get my tea
[18:07] <dholbach> video is live, but the sound is mute
[18:07] <ian-weisser> Well, Dang
[18:07] <BrianLinuxing2> no volume here
[18:08] <dholbach> still no volume
[18:08] <dholbach> maybe something in the mic settings?
[18:08] <ian-weisser> Well, drat. Worked fine in the test moments ago...
[18:08] <ian-weisser> Checking settings. Might just start on IRC till it's sorted
[18:09] <dholbach> can you hear me?
[18:09] <PaulW2U> dholbach: I can hear you
[18:09] <BrianLinuxing2> got some sound
[18:09] <dholbach> ian-weisser, could you hear me when I was speaking?
[18:10] <dholbach> try again
[18:10] <dholbach> woohoo
[18:10] <PaulW2U> ian-weisser: yes
[18:10] <BrianLinuxing2> yes
[18:10] <dholbach> does anyone want to join the hangout?
[18:11] <Guest9062> howdy
[18:11] <dholbach> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-growing-new-community-members
[18:11] <dholbach> ^ link to the pad
[18:12] <BrianLinuxing2> damn am getting "Authorization is required to access"
[18:12] <dholbach> brianLinuxing2: on the pad?
[18:12] <BrianLinuxing2> yes
[18:12] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad
[18:12] <popey> join that team
[18:13] <BrianLinuxing2> :) thanks
[18:13] <popey> approved
[18:13] <popey> now refresh the etherpad http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-growing-new-community-members
[18:13] <balloons> stuck on 2 factor
[18:13] <popey> :D
[18:13] <popey> \o/ \o\ \o/ core apps
[18:14] * dholbach hugs popey
[18:14] <dholbach> any feedback and anecdotes from you guys?
[18:14] <dholbach> or do any of you want to join the hangout?
[18:15] <popey> Do we have every possible way of contributing covered by find-a-task?
[18:15] <balloons> when things are new and fresh, it's exciting
[18:15] <BrianLinuxing2> Ian's right. I'd didn't appreciate the opportunities were there to help out
[18:15] <balloons> when things are older, it can feel a bit more stale. More discovered. The interesting bits may or may not be left
[18:15] <popey> Do we have any metrics for usage of find-a-task? (I asked mhall119 for google analytics, but I don't think we have it)
[18:15] <BrianLinuxing2> And been using Ubuntu off and on since about 2004
[18:16] <balloons> QUESTION: Do we have numbers from find-a-task? How many hits?
[18:16] <popey> dholbach, no
[18:16] <popey> dholbach, we should
[18:16] <popey> Conversion rate, yeah.
[18:16] <BrianLinuxing2> might I make a suggestion?
[18:17] <popey> I am having difficulty thinking of people who _recently_ came to the project to contribute, no matter where they came from.
[18:17] <popey> BrianLinuxing2, knock yourself out.
[18:17] <dholbach> BrianLinuxing2, sure
[18:17] <BrianLinuxing2> I would suggest being outward facing. Doing more external events.
[18:17] <popey> Yeah, +1 to that.
[18:17] <BrianLinuxing2> Let people know you exist
[18:17] <popey> Beyond our bubble.
[18:17] <BrianLinuxing2> Exactly
[18:17] <balloons> I know we just changed the site to feature it prominently
[18:18] <dholbach> popey, balloons, BrianLinuxing2: want to join the hangout?
[18:18] <BrianLinuxing2> Its not sites, it is meetup, community events
[18:18] <BrianLinuxing2> being at hackathons
[18:18] <BrianLinuxing2> being visable
[18:18] <dholbach> BrianLinuxing2, and you would present like the doc team at those events?
[18:19] <BrianLinuxing2> I teach Linux at a meetup but until I met Thibuat I hadn't appreciate y'all were still "alive"
[18:19] <dholbach> :-)
[18:21] <BrianLinuxing2> Surely you have to get a pool people first, then push them towards what they like/can do?
[18:21] <BrianLinuxing2> Fresh blood I mean
[18:22] <BrianLinuxing2> On-line is good, people being visible at technical events, hackathon, etc helps people see Ubuntu is still around
[18:22] <popey> yup
[18:23] <BrianLinuxing2> there are technical events, 100s every week in London, being there just to say "yeah Ubuntu is still very active, we can always do with your help" would bring people in
[18:24] <BrianLinuxing2> then there is the process of "what do they like doing?"
[18:24] <BrianLinuxing2> we have these things, you could do....
[18:25] <BrianLinuxing2> Agree with Ian, about ask ubuntu people not knowing what is there.
[18:27] <BrianLinuxing2> advert idea is good
[18:27] <BrianLinuxing2> plus stackflow, etc
[18:27] <BrianLinuxing2> its better than mine :)
[18:28] <BrianLinuxing2> or potential users
[18:29] <BrianLinuxing2> Got to throw the net widely, anyone that uses XP wants to use Ubuntu, but doesn't know how to help out
[18:30] <popey> http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/12379/community-promotion-ads-2015
[18:30] <popey> found it!
[18:30] <BrianLinuxing2> Why not Twitter and the whole branch of social media too?
[18:32] <BrianLinuxing2> If you send me links to the adverts I will promote on Twitter
[18:33] <BrianLinuxing2> sensible point from Allan
[18:35] <BrianLinuxing2> a few small video might be good too.
[18:36] <dholbach> nice idea
[18:37] <BrianLinuxing2> a lot of people don't like just textual info, as the complete source, whereas a small video clip would reach a wider audience
[18:39] <BrianLinuxing2> me, I am useless at video, but navigating the pages is a pain.
[18:39] <BrianLinuxing2> what videos? what pages to ask? how to do it
[18:39] <BrianLinuxing2> I agree they are hard
[18:40] <BrianLinuxing2> but to reach a wider audience, different methods needed
[18:40] <BrianLinuxing2> not everyone, like us, process textual pages as we do.
[18:41] <BrianLinuxing2> whereas "creative" types process info differently, as educationalists have found
[18:42] <BrianLinuxing2> just a quick "you want to help out" - small clip on "this are the pages for you, and how to do it"
[18:42] <BrianLinuxing2> simple stuff
[18:43] <BrianLinuxing2> like recording a desktop session, etc
[18:43] <ali1234> in my opinion "find a task" is too generic
[18:44] <dholbach> that's [email protected]
[18:44] <dholbach> ali1234, what would you rather see?
[18:44] <ali1234> dholbach: something that helps me find an actual task
[18:44] <BrianLinuxing2> ok Ian might do that
[18:44] <ali1234> i mean i already knew before going to that page that i'm best suited to coding
[18:44] <ali1234> that doesn't help me find coding tasks
[18:44] <dholbach> ali1234, ah... so a database of things which need to be developed
[18:45] <dholbach> right
[18:45] <dholbach> we have something like that up at harvest.ubuntu.com
[18:45] <ali1234> dholbach: yes a list of actual things that you need/want doing
[18:45] <dholbach> but that's just for development tasks
[18:46] <ali1234> yeah harvest looks more like what i want
[18:46] <akronix> how to get into the system development of Ubuntu?
[18:46] <balloons> thanks for the session ian-weisser
[18:46] <BrianLinuxing2> been good listening
[18:46] <popey> yeah, good point ali1234
[18:46] <BrianLinuxing2> :)
[18:46] <ian-weisser> Thanks everyone for participating!
[18:46] <dholbach> akronix, http://packaging.ubuntu.com/ might be interesting for you
[18:47] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone
[18:47] <ian-weisser> Lots of good ideas, feedback, and useful tasks.
[18:47] <ian-weisser> We'll make this thing work yet....
[18:54] <ali1234> dholbach: i just clicked a random task on harvest and it took me to a bug that was fix released 18 months ago
[18:55] <dholbach> ali1234, oh.... which bug was that? where did you see it listed?
[18:55] <ali1234> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freeciv/+bug/202327
[18:56] <ali1234> and i unticked the package filter to see all packages and it's listed under freeciv
[18:59] <ali1234> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-app-install/+bug/155059 is another (appears under homebank)
[19:05] <ali1234> i would like to be able to filter this by programming language
[19:44] <balloons> ali1234, by language.. not sure that's doable
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| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-uos-core
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[13:59] <dholbach> does anyone of you want to join the hangout?
[14:00] <dholbach> (starting in a minute or two)
[14:00] <dholbach> ok... if you want to join the conversation later on, let me know
[14:02] <elopio> o/
[14:05] <dholbach> which experience have you had with snappy so far and what have you done with it?
[14:06] <dholbach> it'd be great if you could join the hangout, so we could hear more about your thoughts
[14:06] <dholbach> anyone?
[14:07] <Thibautr> I have tried Snappy on Raspberry Pi, BeagleBone, VM, mainly trying initially to play with it and installing apps.
[14:07] <sergiusens> dholbach, how do I join? or should I join?
[14:08] <kyrofa> My biggest issue with the on-boarding process was that the documentation online was terribly out-of-date and I was pointed to the src to read ITS docs since they're more up-to-date
[14:08] <Thibautr> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeI_Q90YrhaSHfFTnhJ0s6x6TqDm3zADvBsnxoBU1t5JqoerA
[14:08] <Thibautr> this is the link to the hangout
[14:08] <ogra_> yeah, sadly snappy is still moving very fast with things changing at times
[14:08] <ogra_> and docs only being updated subsequently
[14:09] <kyrofa> ogra_, and that's understandable, but it would be great to change the docs at the same pace
[14:09] <kyrofa> Maybe it should be more automated
[14:09] <dholbach> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeI_Q90YrhaSHfFTnhJ0s6x6TqDm3zADvBsnxoBU1t5JqoerA
[14:09] <ogra_> there are attempst to do that by maintaining the docs inside the code
[14:09] <dholbach> ^if you want to join
[14:09] <ogra_> and by automatically aggregating them
[14:09] <kyrofa> Ah, that would be great :)
[14:10] <ogra_> it already happens for some documentation
[14:10] <dholbach> kyrofa, which docs were out-of-date?
[14:10] <elopio> what we are missing is an integration test for docs. If the test fails, the docs and the test need to be updated.
[14:11] <dholbach> taking notes here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-core-1511-snappy-onboarding-feedback
[14:11] <ali1234> i'm an ubuntu user but frankly snappy is so different and weird that it doesn't help at all
[14:11] <dholbach> ali1234, what is confusing or bewildering?
[14:11] <kyrofa> Is that... sergiusens??
[14:11] <elopio> ali1234: tell us more about your use case.
[14:12] <ogra_> ali1234, depends what you want to do :)
[14:12] <kyrofa> He's alive!
[14:12] <ogra_> kyrofa, he pretends to
[14:12] <kyrofa> Hahaha
[14:12] <ogra_> (in reality he is lying in bed and only driving that puppet on a stick that you see in the HO
[14:12] <ogra_> )
[14:13] <sergiusens> kyrofa, yes
[14:13] <ali1234> elopio: i don't have a use case, i don't even know enough about snappy to know if it would be useful to me or not
[14:13] <sergiusens> no, I am better :-)
[14:13] <sergiusens> kyrofa, from tuesday, s/sick/ill/
[14:13] <elopio> ali1234: try installing the lxd snap, and deploy a ubuntu wily container.
[14:14] <ogra_> ali1234, did you take a look at snapcraft already ? (the "apt-get for github" as someone called it recently)
[14:14] <ali1234> ogra_: i googled it about half an hour ago, all i found was stuff about minecraft
[14:15] <ogra_> heh
[14:15] <ogra_> i guess we need to do better with google scoring
[14:16] <kyrofa> ali1234, I always suggest prepending your search with "ubuntu"
[14:16] <Thibautr> Who's got a Raspberry Pi?
[14:16] <ali1234> i do
[14:16] <jrwren> I do
[14:16] <sergiusens> Thibautr, i don't see your lower third :-)
[14:16] <ogra_> ali1234, there are definitely a bunch of tutorials on youtube how to use it
[14:16] <elopio> Thibautr: I like that. I want my rpi to be my kodi box.
[14:17] <jrwren> elopio: openelec makes that very easy and awesome.
[14:17] <alecu> I own several raspis, but only one is model 2
[14:17] * ogra_ wants his rpi to steer his heating and solar power system
[14:18] <Thibautr> What would you like to use your Raspberry Pi for?
[14:18] <elopio> I like my bbb better, but I want to use it to hack.
[14:18] <ali1234> i use mine as a jtag debugger and i2c sniffer
[14:19] <alecu> elopio: the advantage of the raspi over other boards is availability
[14:19] <jrwren> garage door open detector/alarm
[14:19] <alecu> elopio: it's much easier to get your hands on a raspi
[14:19] <Thibautr> Who's using their Rpi2 on a daily basis?
[14:20] <elopio> and I would like to replace the openwrt on my router with ubuntu.
[14:20] <willcooke> Thibautr, I have a use case we could use
[14:20] <jrwren> rpi2 - yes, daily - openelec/kodi
[14:20] <elopio> no, not daily yet.
[14:20] <jrwren> garage door open detector - unsure about power requirements and which sensors would be best. Little time.
[14:21] <elopio> jrwren: how easy is to update your openelec?
[14:26] <alecu> QUESTION: I'd love to use my raspi2 with snappy for my electromechanical games, but I need sound support. Are audio drivers supported already? Is that already using pulse or plain alsa?
[14:27] <lool> wililupy: snap services run as root any way
[14:27] <lool> err sorry willcooke
[14:27] <ogra_> willcooke, on snappy you always run everything as root ...
[14:27] <lool> willcooke: but you'll need to give access to /sys files to your snap
[14:27] <ogra_> i mean your snap does
[14:27] <lool> rick and jamie wrote stuff on this
[14:27] <lool> ogra_: (commands run as the user who runs them though)
[14:28] <ogra_> oh, right, but services dont
[14:28] <ogra_> i can definitely include needed bits indeed
[14:28] <ogra_> if there is anythin to include
[14:29] <willcooke> Thibautr, https://github.com/8none1/thermostat
[14:29] <willcooke> NO LAUGHING!
[14:29] * tedg can't stop laughing
[14:29] <ogra_> giggling allowwed ?
[14:30] <tedg> Why are their sunny icons? I thought you were in England?
[14:30] <tedg> there
[14:31] <ali1234> QUESTION: how will development look when the tools themselves are packaged in snaps?
[14:31] <elopio> all code and no pep8 makes /me a dull boy :)
[14:31] <jrwren> elopio: very easy. copy files into place and restart and the system updates itself.
[14:32] <ogra_> ali1234, you will have a "classic" mode on snappy
[14:32] <ogra_> ali1234, meanin you can install a developer snap that gets you a deb based container
[14:32] <ali1234> i wanted to use snappy on my robot but it is built around the pi A+ so that was a none starter
[14:32] <wililupy> I had an issue with snapcraft .3 where I built a snap and it would fail saying it couldn't find /dev/null, but it seems to be fixed in .4 I successfully built my snap last night.
[14:32] <ogra_> in which you then can use snapcraft
[14:32] <sergiusens> kyrofa, want to share anything ros and ubuntu core?
[14:33] <ali1234> ogra_: so basically if i'm a developer i will not ever use snap packages myself?
[14:33] <ogra_> you will use them as the end result
[14:33] <ogra_> to run and test them
[14:33] <ali1234> what if i only write development tools?
[14:34] <ogra_> you might be able to roll your own classic mode for this and provide it in the store,
[14:34] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I have no snappy+ROS experience to share, I'm afraid. I'd love to but I don't have any robotic hardware around here :(
[14:34] <ali1234> say i write a tool like cmake
[14:34] <sergiusens> wililupy, good to know, feel free to log any bugs or send email to snappy-app-devel@ or #snappy with any issues; blockers for adoption we look at solving quicker than others
[14:34] <ali1234> do i have to bundle gcc and every other compiler ever into the biggest snap ever in order to make it work?
[14:34] <ogra_> ali1234, then you will provide a snapcraft plugin for it and perhaps your own classic mode snap that includes it by default (or get it included into the existing one)
[14:35] <ogra_> ali1234, for development you will likely simply not use snappy itself, it is rather a delivery thing, your development happens outside of the deployment (in a classic container, on a desktop etc)
[14:36] <ali1234> ogra_: i thought the plan was to convert the desktop to snaps?
[14:36] <ogra_> it is
[14:36] <sergiusens> https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/
[14:36] <ogra_> and there you will also use a classic container to develop ;)
[14:37] <ali1234> ogra_: i saw the session yesterday about legacy apps
[14:37] <ogra_> yeah, classic mode is a bit more than that
[14:37] <ali1234> libertine i think it's called?
[14:37] <ogra_> libertine adds confinement to not confined apps
[14:37] <ogra_> by wrapping a chroot or container
[14:37] <ali1234> okay
[14:38] <ogra_> classic gives youa complete dev env in a container
[14:38] <ali1234> so if i have to always work inside a classic container to do anything, why should i care about snappy?
[14:38] <ogra_> that enables you to have it spit out a snap you can immediately install on your desktop
[14:38] <ogra_> because snappy is your base system
[14:39] <ali1234> but i cant do anything with it without a classic container
[14:39] <ogra_> if you want to install your produced binary you will have to generate a snap
[14:39] <ali1234> so i might as well just install my software inside the container and use it that way
[14:39] <ogra_> you can indeed :)
[14:40] <ali1234> it seems like most of the software i write would not work in a snap
[14:40] <wililupy> QUESTION: How do I get my snap to show the correct version instead of random letters? Does it not get this from the version: flag in the snapcraft.yaml?
[14:40] <ogra_> but if you want to deliver it to others whats easier ? telling them "select this snap from the snap store on your PC" or "read and follow this howto to set up a container and install these 25 debs inside"
[14:40] <dholbach> wililupy, that's if you use a side-loaded version
[14:40] <Chipaca> wililupy: not when sideloading
[14:40] <dholbach> if it comes from the store, it gets a proper version number
[14:41] <Chipaca> dholbach: for now :)
[14:41] <Chipaca> bah
[14:41] <Chipaca> wililupy: the "for now" is because, what do you need the "proper" version number for?
[14:41] <Chipaca> wililupy: often it's to hardcode the version in a path somewhere
[14:41] <Chipaca> wililupy: and you shouldn't do that
[14:41] <wililupy> It was for a demo, I just wanted to clean it up.
[14:41] <ogra_> ali1234, right, if you only work on core build tools or some such you are definitely better off with debs ... but perhaps in contexxxt of a classic mode that already contains yoyur tools (and your preferred IDE and all libs your tools consume etc)
[14:42] <ogra_> so you might want a snap to make it easier for other devs to make use of your tool
[14:43] <ogra_> ali1234, and you want snappy for your OS because a release to release upgrade will take 2min vs 2h, it will automatically roll back in case somethin went wrong etc etc
[14:44] <Chipaca> wililupy: to support rapid dev iterations where you change something, rebuild, install, repeatedly on the device _without having to bump the version every time_, the version when sideloaded is ~random
[14:44] <Chipaca> it's actually a timestamp, but same thing
[14:47] <wililupy> Thank you all for the information.
[14:48] <dholbach> mvo_, sergiusens, Chipaca: do you have an answer for alecu and his audio framework? :)
[14:49] <Chipaca> i missed the question
[14:49] <alecu> QUESTION: I'd love to use my raspi2 with snappy for my electromechanical games, but I need sound support. Are audio drivers supported already? Is that already using pulse or plain alsa?
[14:49] <dholbach> or ogra^
[14:49] <Chipaca> ah!
[14:49] <Chipaca> alecu: just plain alsa should work
[14:49] <alecu> great!
[14:49] <Chipaca> alecu: as long as it's a single snap wanting to use sound
[14:50] <Chipaca> alecu: and you do the hw-assign dance, i imagine (try it and tell us :)
[14:50] <alecu> Chipaca: yes, that sounds perfect
[14:50] <ali1234> ogra_: my concern is that i'll end up with a huge amount of stuff installed manually in classic mode, and upgrading the base OS won't magically upgrade all that stuff
[14:50] <alecu> Chipaca: I will
[14:51] <ogra_> ali1234, well, then snappy is probably only interesting for users of your stuff
[14:51] <ogra_> and not for yourself
[14:51] <ali1234> ogra_: i am the only user for 99% of the software i write
[14:51] <ogra_> right
[14:52] <ogra_> so the more interesting thng for you might to provide a snapcraft plugin for users that acually want to use your tools and youself stay with deb
[14:52] <ogra_> (if you actually want users :) )
[14:54] <dholbach> nice one
[14:54] <dholbach> thanks everyone
[14:54] <wililupy> Thanks!
[14:54] <willcooke> thanks
[14:55] <elopio> thank you!
[14:55] <ogra_> thanks !
[14:55] * ali1234 goes to #snappy
[15:00] <dholbach> all right... does anyone want to join the hangout?
[15:00] <dholbach> this session is about snappy (online) resources
[15:05] <Thibautr> Who uses primarily Stack Overflow when trying to solve a problem?
[15:05] <ali1234> it depends on the problem
[15:06] <ali1234> if it is very very technical and ubuntu-specific i have not had much luck with AU
[15:06] <ali1234> actually that gos for pretty much anything very technical
[15:06] <Thibautr> So do you switch to Google?
[15:06] <Thibautr> I mean googling your problem?
[15:06] <ali1234> no, i start with google
[15:06] <Thibautr> OK :D
[15:07] <ali1234> if that fails i will either ask on SO if it's something ... i dunno how to say it but kind of "mid level"
[15:07] <ali1234> if it's extremely technical i look at the source and then go and ask the person on irc
[15:08] <ali1234> often google leads me to an existing answer on SO!
[15:08] <ali1234> that's why i start there
[15:09] <tedg> Really SO is an excellent SEO job :-)
[15:09] <ali1234> i don't care where the answer is as long as google can find it :)
[15:09] <Thibautr> aahaha
[15:09] <ali1234> the only thing i don't really like is mailing lists because the archives are hard to read and failing that you have to subscribe etc
[15:09] <sergiusens> can someone write a telegram plugin so I get pinged about askubuntu questions tagged snapcraft?
[15:10] <tedg> That would be cool
[15:10] <sergiusens> QUESTION ^
[15:10] <tedg> Hmm, searching Google for anything about stack overflow doesn't get what you watn.
[15:11] <ali1234> sergiusens: i could probably hack that together
[15:12] <sergiusens> ali1234, that would be nice :-)
[15:12] <sergiusens> askubuntu only has one snapcraft question
[15:12] <sergiusens> from dpm
[15:13] <tedg> Oh, we'll need it to filter out questions from dpm ;-)
[15:13] <Thibautr> SO to RSS , RSS to telegram?
[15:14] <sergiusens> Thibautr, there's already an irc bot that spits questions from askubuntu for ubunut-touch
[15:14] <sergiusens> I just want to transform that to telegram ;-)
[15:14] <Thibautr> SO to RSS , RSS to IRC, IRC to Telegram :D
[15:14] <ali1234> there's bots for telegram apparently
[15:14] <Thibautr> mmm
[15:14] <sergiusens> ali1234, yup, we have one for lp bug reports already
[15:15] <ali1234> so all the code exists, just a matter of merging it together... that's pretty much my specialty
[15:18] <sergiusens> if we need a list, what better that SO ?
[15:18] <sergiusens> keep it dynamic
[15:19] <dholbach> do you have a feel for what might be more popular or a better venue? SO or AU?
[15:20] <sergiusens> askubuntu
[15:20] <sergiusens> I was conflating SO as the same thing
[15:20] <ali1234> that's a really difficult one. i feel like on one hand AU makes more logical sense, but AU has always seemed to be end-user focused
[15:20] <zyga> hey
[15:20] <tedg> Gonna have to figure out how to log into AU again...
[15:21] <ali1234> tedg: i use launchpad openid
[15:21] <tedg> ali1234: I used my own, then they dropped V1 and I haven't upgraded.
[15:21] <ali1234> doh
[15:22] <Thibautr> Looks like you can only do SO to email
[15:24] <sergiusens> no
[15:24] <sergiusens> ah, I don't at least
[15:25] <Thibautr> you can't do it?
[15:25] <Thibautr> http://stackexchange.com/filters/210379/ubuntu-core
[15:25] <ogra_> Thibautr, i definitely dont want to get all 750 IRC pings i get per day piped to telegram on my phone :P
[15:25] <Thibautr> ahah
[15:25] <Thibautr> email it can be
[15:27] <tedg> For workshops generally, I think that virt-manager is better.
[15:28] <tedg> Everyone can use that and get it running, they don't need specific hardware.
[15:28] <tedg> Besides the docker snap failing, I think I had a good one put together :-)
[15:32] <Thibautr> I would do a workshop for non Ubuntu users too :D
[15:32] <tedg> Wait, who are these people you speak of?
[15:32] <ali1234> QUESTION: any plans for webinar style demos? like the ubuntu learning week? haven't seen one of those for a while
[15:33] <tedg> We do snappy clinics
[15:33] <ogra_> Thibautr, then you likely want virtualbox
[15:33] <tedg> ali1234: They're on the ubuntu-on-air schedule
[15:33] <ogra_> ali1234, yes, they happen recular
[15:33] <ogra_> *regular
[15:33] <tedg> ali1234: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-qBHd6_LXWYm8qttcXaosAIzejTa5IPj
[15:34] <ali1234> those seem more question-and-answer?
[15:34] <tedg> dholbach: Can we get the ROS UOS session in that playlist?
[15:34] <tedg> Oh, I was just joking about non-Ubuntu users.
[15:35] <Thibautr> ali1234 , would you like us to do more show and tell part of the Snappy Clinic?
[15:35] <ogra_> ali1234, it is tutorials but people ask questions on IRC while they happen :)
[15:35] <ali1234> i'd like to see someone install snappy core on a raspberry pi, then install a very simple snap like a LED blinker, all in one session, no interruptions, demo problems etc :)
[15:36] <ali1234> not just show-and-tell but actually showing every command run to achieve it
[15:37] <ali1234> i remember seeing a juju demo along those lines once
[15:37] <dholbach> tedg, can you drop me a mail with that, so I don't forget? I can try to get it on there
[15:38] <Thibautr> ubuntu-core TV!
[15:39] <tedg> dholbach: sent
[16:00] <dholbach> anyone who wants to join the porting session?
[16:01] <elopio> I want to.
[16:01] <zt> me
[16:02] <dholbach> cool
[16:02] <dholbach> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcfsOpn06JCaJMFwxKzAv0Yel_ooGg-QnomzZA7SO2Y9ZLKvg
[16:03] <dholbach> the notes ar up on http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-core-1511-porting-raspberry-pi-apps-to-snappy
[16:04] <elopio> I will take notes
[16:04] <dholbach> if anyone of you wants so add more thoughts to it, please go ahead
[16:05] <dholbach> zt, ^ there's the link for the hangout
[16:05] <dholbach> does that work for you?
[16:05] <tedg> I think the real question comes down to graphics. How do we expect people to use a display on the Raspberry Pi2?
[16:06] <ali1234> i see a list of various libraries on the pad... gstreamer is conspicuously absent, and it's without doubt the best way to stream video out of the pi camera
[16:06] <ali1234> and especially when used with gst-rpicamsrc - which unfortunately does not seem to be even packaged
[16:06] <kyrofa> tedg, ooo yeah, good question
[16:07] <dholbach> ali1234, adding gstreamer
[16:07] <ali1234> (i actually use gstreamer in my robot)
[16:09] <ali1234> the most popular apps if you asked every rpi user would be kodi, emulation-station, and some generic NAS software
[16:10] <ali1234> personally i'd like to see mythtv-backend
[16:11] <elopio> ali1234: emulation station, like a play station emulator?
[16:11] <ali1234> emulation-station is like a front end for every emulator
[16:11] <tedg> I think an interesting example might be a Deb repo mirror. It is one that a lot of Ubuntu power users/devs might find very practical. :-)
[16:11] <ali1234> tedg: oooh that's a good one yeah
[16:11] <elopio> tedg: yeah, cache.
[16:12] <kyrofa> I agree with kodi, that seems to be a big rpi thing
[16:12] <ali1234> http://emulationstation.org/
[16:12] <tedg> Squid with adblock might also be popular with folks.
[16:13] <tedg> I think that mzagnetti did a Guh snap. Might be interesting to promote that more.
[16:13] <kyrofa> Is there a way to run multiple websites behind apache or nginx yet?
[16:13] <dholbach> tedg, what's Guh?
[16:14] <tedg> dholbach: https://github.com/guh/guh/wiki/Getting-started-snappy
[16:14] <dholbach> ok :)
[16:14] <thibautr> http://notyetthere.org/snap-up-your-home/
[16:15] <lool> I dont know whether we still want openwrt as a snap
[16:16] <lool> it's more inspiration for what we'd want to provide in terms of features
[16:16] <kyrofa> I'd love to make a few web app snaps but I figure a bundled apache won't allow for multiple of those snaps being installed
[16:16] <lool> lucy is the web UI of openwrt
[16:16] <thibautr> hi mkarliner!
[16:17] <mkarliner> hi
[16:17] <dholbach> hey hey
[16:17] <mkarliner> +1 for mosquitto 1.4!!!
[16:19] <mkarliner> There is an issue with the underlying websockets on 1.4
[16:19] <mkarliner> ah thanks
[16:19] <mkarliner> Its an MQTT broker 1.4 supports websockets
[16:22] <ali1234> +1 for arduino/avr development
[16:23] <mkarliner> use node-red on RPi...
[16:23] <mkarliner> With arduino plugin
[16:23] <ali1234> there's more to AVR than just arduino... tools like dfu-update and avrdude for ICSP
[16:25] <ali1234> there's a raspberry pi utility that turns it into a logic analyser that streams to your PC
[16:25] <ali1234> that's what i use for i2c sniffing as well
[16:30] <thibautr> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ncubehome/ncube-the-only-app-youll-need-for-your-smart-home
[16:30] <tedg> thibautr: Is that this guy? http://samnazarko.co.uk/about/
[16:32] <thibautr> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/b/2cec897a-1bec-4e17-9168-304c2afb6902
[16:32] <thibautr> this guy ... the UK alternative to Nest :D
[16:37] <ali1234> everyone will vote for kodi :)
[16:39] <ali1234> there's an entire raspberry distribution for kodi
[16:39] <ali1234> like a whole disk image
[16:40] <dholbach> thanks everyone!
[16:40] <tedg> I'd like to see us get it as a release target for the kodi upstream
[16:40] <tedg> Rather than someone in our community doing a package.
[16:40] <lool> thibautr: it's team maintained in Debian
[16:40] <lool> dunno in Ubuntu
[16:40] <lool> Balint Reczey seems to be the recurring uploader
[16:47] <tedg> thibautr: ncube is pretty interesting.
[17:46] <dholbach> slangasek, do you know who'll run the F2FS session?
[17:46] <dholbach> the summary of the python3 session also is still missing
[17:46] <slangasek> dholbach: I do not; I didn't approve/schedule this session, did you?
[17:47] <dholbach> sorry, I did - I put it on the schedule since it seemed like it was forgotten - I can remove it though
[17:48] <dholbach> popey, ^ do you know if Martin wanted to run this?
[17:57] <popey> dholbach, i don't
[17:57] <dholbach> hum......
[17:57] <dholbach> anyone who's running this session?
[17:58] <popey> did martin ask for it?
[17:58] * popey pings him on telegram
[17:59] <dholbach> attendees of the session are: Teg, Martin Wimpress, Jorge O. Castro, Alan Pope ใ
[17:59] <dholbach> and as I didn't know Teg....
[17:59] <dholbach> if nobody shows up to lead the session, we could still make it a discussion on the mailing list
[18:03] <dholbach> ok... I'll remove it from the schedule
[18:03] <dholbach> slangasek, ^
[18:06] <slangasek> dholbach: fine with me
[18:06] <slangasek> thanks
[18:06] <popey> checked with martin, he didn't make it
[18:06] <popey> no idea who did
[18:07] <slangasek> teg made it
[18:07] <slangasek> but I don't know teg
[18:07] <slangasek> not here and no email listed in lp
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[21:04] <^zer0> bry
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[06:22] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[08:05] <elacheche> Hello!
[15:04] <elacheche> Kilos, !
[15:04] <elacheche> When is our next meeting?
[15:04] <elacheche> I mean #ubuntu-africa
[15:04] <Kilos> oh my elacheche
[15:05] <Kilos> when ever you guys have the time
[15:05] <elacheche> We should fix a date..
[15:05] <Kilos> we can have it on the 4th wednesday of this month if you like
[15:06] <elacheche> What date is that x)
[15:06] <Kilos> but you remind everyone this time
[15:06] <Kilos> hehe
[15:06] <elacheche> Do you want me to send a poll to vote about the next meeting date?
[15:06] <Kilos> 25th i think
[15:07] <Kilos> you can if you like
[15:07] <Kilos> i dont fancy voting for everything
[15:07] <elacheche> OK, I'll do it asap
[15:07] <Kilos> lol
[15:08] <Kilos> meetings were on the 4th wednesday of every month
[15:08] <Kilos> just i been out of it for some months
[15:08] <elacheche> Kilos, cbj is a Tunisian too :) He's the founder of the project OpenTunisia.. You can check it out via opentunisia.tn and he have a project to Africa..
[15:09] <Kilos> ohi cbj
[15:09] <elacheche> He's probably AFK :D
[15:09] <Kilos> i think i greeted him yesterday or day before
[15:10] <Kilos> cant remember if he replied
[15:10] <elacheche> You know Kilos, we are 24/7 on irc, but AFK :) just like what I do :p
[15:10] <Kilos> lol
[15:10] <Kilos> easier to set your client to show when you afk
[15:11] <Kilos> like it looks like everyone is at the kb atm
[15:13] <elacheche> Kilos, the cli based terminals don't let you see that thing :) it depends on the client :)
[15:13] <Kilos> lol
[15:13] <elacheche> :D
[15:22] <Kilos> :-D
[15:23] <Kilos> now i can see emoticons
[15:23] <Kilos> konversation is very lekker
[15:23] <elacheche> lool Kilos :D
[15:27] <Kilos> elacheche is there a meeting tonight for the membership board
[15:27] <elacheche> Yes Kilos
[15:27] <Kilos> or did i miss it
[15:27] <Kilos> yay
[15:27] <Kilos> midnight
[15:27] <elacheche> didn't check the details yet :/ am too busy
[15:27] <Kilos> sigh
[15:27] <Kilos> ive read his pages
[15:27] <Kilos> seems a surety
[15:29] <Kilos> oh no 22.00 to 23.00
[15:29] <Kilos> hope thats not utc times
[15:30] <elacheche> 22:00 UTC
[15:31] <Kilos> ah ok midnight it is
[15:31] <Kilos> if im asleep keep pinging me please
[15:35] <elacheche> lool ok
[18:37] <Kilos> elacheche i wanna sleep
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| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-uos-showandtell
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[13:51] <sitter> balloons: do I create the hangout or you?
[13:51] <balloons> ahh sitter, there tiy are
[13:52] <balloons> sitter, if you are able, go for it. Create a hangout, then we simply paste the links into the page so it's updated to stream it
[13:52] <sitter> ok
[14:00] <balloons> sitter, looks like you are all set to go ;-)
[14:01] <sitter> Are we live?
[14:01] <balloons> sitter, indeed you are
[14:01] <ovidiu-florin> hello sexy people
[14:02] <ovidiu-florin> sitter ^
[14:02] <sgclark2> hello
[14:02] <ovidiu-florin> why isn't rohan in this channel?
[14:06] <sgclark2> yes I just went through that with trusty updates..
[14:11] <ovidiu-florin> why Ruby?
[14:13] <sgclark2> yes it has
[14:15] <balloons> can we see the CI reports you are looking at?
[14:15] <balloons> aka, can we browse the jenkins?
[14:15] <balloons> where do you host your CI scripts?
[14:16] <sick_rimmit> Looks to me like they're here
[14:16] <sick_rimmit> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_tooling/
[14:16] <balloons> Can you give a high level overview of what you do as part of CI. You are performing daily builds, pulling from ppa's whose source exists where? and what do you do with the resulting build? is there a goal to have the builds always pass?
[14:16] <balloons> thanks sick_rimmit
[14:18] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: just because both me and Harald were proficient in Ruby I think
[14:19] <balloons> seems we're getting some of my question answered now :-)
[14:19] <shadeslayer> balloons: we're preparing our source ourselves :)
[14:19] <shadeslayer> sick_rimmit: that is correct
[14:23] <balloons> so any tests that would be run, should be run as part of the upstream build. So you aren't performing any specific testing
[14:23] <balloons> you'll just build it and try and get a package to publish right?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> balloons: answer to that coming up
[14:33] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: please share your $PS1
[14:35] <ovidiu-florin> or what ever do you use to make your prompt like that
[14:37] <sgclark2> very important as I found out with the trusty packages
[14:39] <ovidiu-florin> show the graph when you explain
[14:39] <ovidiu-florin> and point to stuff
[14:41] <sick_rimmit> Please could you share some links
[14:43] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: how do you choose what KDE projects get into the CI?
[14:43] <sgclark2> jenkins has a ruby librarry that is much more extensive than python
[14:43] <sgclark2> api library that is
[14:48] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: I think thats zsh + oh-my-zsh
[14:49] <ryanleesipes> popey, hello
[14:49] <ovidiu-florin> Can regular non technical people use the Stable CI?
[14:49] <popey> yo ryanleesipes
[14:49] <popey> just setting up
[14:51] <ovidiu-florin> show us how you add KDevelop in the CI
[14:53] <sgclark2> ovidiu-florin: the kf5 has not been done for kdevelop
[14:53] <sgclark2> port*
[14:53] <sgclark2> packaging that is
[14:53] <ovidiu-florin> how you ADD
[14:54] <ovidiu-florin> present thense
[14:54] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: we can discuss that in #kubuntu-devel
[14:54] <ovidiu-florin> we should
[14:54] <sick_rimmit> Hey great job thank you
[14:54] <balloons> thanks sitter, rohan, et la!
[14:54] <sitter> Thx
[15:01] <justCarakas> you are live
[15:01] <cwayne-uos> hiya
[15:02] <cwayne-uos> hey youre live
[15:03] <Aaawesome> hey mycroft bring me muh beer
[15:04] <Aaawesome> was it brown??
[15:04] <Aaawesome> :D
[15:05] <Aaawesome> mardi is Aaawesome
[15:06] <cm-t__> o/
[15:22] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: So if I understand correctly, Unity8 will have built in Mycroft support and intergration by default (when it is ready of course)?
[15:24] <autonomouse> QUESTION: Your kickstrter campaign encouraged people to buy multiple Mycroft units. Is there any plan for folks with multiple Mycrofts or a mycroft unit and ubuntu PC running Mycroft to synchronise (without involving the cloud)? i.e. some kind of decentralised/distributed way of making each of them know what you've said to the others? (maybe syncth
[15:24] <autonomouse> ing or something?)
[15:24] <ryanleesipes> Can you guys hear that?
[15:25] <mardi> yes, sound ok
[15:25] <autonomouse> QUESTION: Which version of Pyhon are you using?
[15:25] <CheeseBurg> Can the voice for Mindcroft be customized?
[15:25] <justCarakas> QUESTION will it also reply to just Mycroft instead of Okey Mycroft (reminds me of google)
[15:26] <justCarakas> there is echo
[15:27] <Guest86181> ryanleesipes: i thin you'e got both mics still on
[15:28] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Will Mycroft integrate with scopes? Applications?
[15:29] <Aaawesome> QUESTION: how did you find the unity8/snappy documentation?
[15:29] <Aaawesome> QUESTION: will the phone security restrictions be a problem for implementing mycroft?
[15:30] <ryanleesipes> Can you guys hear that?
[15:30] <CheeseBurg> No
[15:31] <CheeseBurg> phone looks nice tho
[15:32] <CheeseBurg> yes
[15:32] <justCarakas> we can hear you now
[15:36] <Aaawesome> QUESTION: on witch ubuntu phone are you testing mycroft?
[15:37] <Elleo> 49
[15:37] <Elleo> oops
[15:40] <CheeseBurg> QUESTION: Are you working to integrate Mycroft into other desktop environments? Has there been interest?
[15:40] <CheeseBurg> Mycroft + HUD = killer feature!!!
[15:43] <foaf> QUESTION: will the initial code be available to look at in the short term or only a more final version when you start shipping?
[15:44] <CheeseBurg> Imagine have Mycroft support in the SDK
[15:49] <willcooke> QUESTION: How's the design of the Mycroft hardware coming along? Do you have a unit we can see?
[15:50] <CheeseBurg> Thanks! I'll definitely follow Mycroft more closely
[15:51] <foaf> awesome, look forward to fiddling around!
[15:51] <willcooke> cute!!
[15:54] <willcooke> thanks ryanleesipes
[15:54] <ryanleesipes> Thank you guys
[15:54] <autonomouse> Thanks Ryan!
[15:54] <mardi> Thanks!
[15:54] <Aaawesome> x
[15:58] <Elleo> balloons: heya, do I just create a hang out on air and send you the link or does it need setting up from your side?
[15:59] <balloons> hey Elleo! follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions
[16:00] <balloons> I'm hosting another session, so I can't host it for you, but you know how to do that bit I'm sure anyway
[16:00] <Elleo> balloons: okay, thanks
[16:00] <balloons> if you do get stuck, ping. I'm here to make sure you get going a-ok
[16:01] <balloons> Elleo, once you have the hangout, you'll just need to add it to this page http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/hangout/22608/game-development-for-the-ubuntu-phone/
[16:02] <Elleo> balloons: heya, don't seem to have access to the "Edit Hangout Details" option on that page
[16:02] <balloons> Elleo, ohh, well then
[16:03] <balloons> Elleo, what's the hangout, I can update it :-)
[16:03] <Elleo> balloons: https://plus.google.com/events/cik5798it3j8gudocnqg2f6agck
[16:03] <Elleo> balloons: thanks
[16:03] <balloons> yw
[16:04] <balloons> Elleo, you should be good
[16:04] <Elleo> balloons: great, thanks
[16:05] <cucumber__> i'm blind.. i can't see :| but i hear you
[16:08] <cucumber__> QUESTION: how is the QML performance on Ubuntu Phones? and is it QML really meant for making games?
[16:12] <cucumber__> QUESTION: are you using timers as loops?
[16:13] <cucumber__> QUESTION: why are you using gedit instead of Qt?
[16:15] <cucumber__> QUESTION: how is the performance of html5 on Ubuntu Phones? and how is it compared to qml?
[16:17] <cucumber__> QUESTION: any demos of c/c++ OpenGL ES?
[16:21] <kenvandine> performance looks pretty smooth
[16:25] <cucumber__> tux racer :D
[16:25] <mzanetti-> QUESTION: any experience with liquidfun?
[16:26] <mzanetti-> a fork of Box2D with liquids added
[16:26] <mzanetti-> wanted to do something with that, but pre-start already
[16:27] <kenvandine> liquidfun would rock
[16:27] <mzanetti-> fwiw: https://google.github.io/liquidfun/
[16:27] <kenvandine> i've talked to the qml-box2d maintainer about rebasing the qml bindings on liquidfun
[16:27] <kenvandine> he's keen on the idea
[16:28] <cucumber__> thanks for the great session Mike o/
[16:28] <kenvandine> then we'd get that in bacon2d
[16:28] <mzanetti-> kenvandine, https://github.com/qml-box2d/qml-box2d/issues/58
[16:28] <Elleo> kenvandine: cool
[17:57] <Guest9062> All set cm-t?
[17:58] <YoBoY> hi
[17:59] <cm-t> Hi everyone
[18:00] <YoBoY> tu peux coller le lien vers la vidรฉo et le lien pour participer ici ?
[18:00] <gwaka> Bonsoir tout le monde
[18:00] <cm-t> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22566/le-french-uos-summary/
[18:02] <LeChristCosmique> Pourquoi j'entends deux voix ?
[18:03] <LeChristCosmique> ah ... oui le mettre en double รงa aide pas ...
[18:05] <quesh__> yop
[18:10] <YoBoY> Si vous avez des questions, prรฉcรฉdez les du mot ยซโฏQUESTION :โฏยป histoire qu'on les voit bien svp
[18:10] <YoBoY> (et n'hรฉsitez pas ร en poser ;)
[18:19] <YoBoY> pour plus d'infos https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil
et mรชme sur le bureau j'hรฉsite de plus en plus ร le lancer :D
[18:21] <YoBoY> (thunderbird)
[18:23] <cm-t> le plan suis celui-ci http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/all/
[18:23] <ArKwignAmann> QUESTION : Y a-t-il eu des prรฉcisions sur l'environnement tรฉlรฉphone (Environement graphiquec, fonctionnalitรฉ, ...) ?
[18:36] <LeChristCosmique> QUESTION : Qu'adviendra-t'il de ubuntu-server ?
[18:36] <gwaka> QUESTION : C'est quand les prochain UbuntuCon et UbuntuParty en France ? Et ou ? Et comment participer ?
[18:38] <YoBoY> on dit Mate
[18:38] <YoBoY> :D
[18:38] <gwaka> =D
[18:39] <roadmr> รงa se prononce comme en espagnol (le boisson): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_%28software%29
[18:39] <YoBoY> moi je le prononce comme dans roommate
[18:40] <LeChristCosmique> YoBoY: dans ce cas lร รงa serait mate comme partenaire
[18:40] <YoBoY> yep
[18:41] <cm-t> ubuntu-rouen.org
[18:42] <cm-t> ubuntu-paris.org
[18:47] <gwaka> Merci
[18:50] <ArKwignAmann> QUESTION: Rรฉalitรฉ vituelle et Ubuntu ?
[18:55] <ArKwignAmann> un casque en carton
[18:55] <ArKwignAmann> litรฉralement
[18:56] <ArKwignAmann> Merci pour vos intervention :)
[18:56] <YoBoY> merci ร tous
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.946516
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[01:30] <ahoneybun> I really wish I could go to the UOS abou the meetup for LoCo's
[02:54] <ahoneybun> mhall119: I have not added any Ubuntu Hour after this Saturday as we'll be in orlando and we can have a awesome dinner right :)
[03:59] <mhall119> I hope so, we need to plan that
[22:29] <ahoneybun> jck77: I'm going to kidnap you for the Ubuntu Hour this time
[23:18] <jck77> ahoneybun: haha
[23:19] <jck77> ahoneybun: not in fl
[23:19] <ahoneybun> what!
[23:24] <jck77> doing some work up in GA
[23:42] <ahoneybun> ohhh
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:24.948791
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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"ahoneybun",
"jck77",
"mhall119"
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2015-11-05-#juju-dev
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[00:10] <menn0> thumper, axw or wallyworld: review pls http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3073/
[00:11] <menn0> this makes a feature test i'm writing a lot cleaner
[00:13] <thumper> menn0: done
[00:13] * thumper goes to walk the dog in the sun
[00:13] <menn0> thumper: thanks
[00:40] <davecheney> OH WOW
[00:40] <davecheney> the maas provider demands yaml.v2
[00:41] <davecheney> but also calls a utilty function with requires yaml.v1
[01:35] <davecheney> mgz_: thumper http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3074/
[01:35] <davecheney> please view
[01:35] <davecheney> should break the arguments about which version of yaml.v2 juju/utils can use
[01:36] <davecheney> also, spot the WTF in that pach
[01:36] <davecheney> also, spot the WTF in that patch
[01:56] <natefinch> davecheney: heh, looks familiar: https://github.com/natefinch/atomic/blob/master/atomic.go#L17
[01:57] <natefinch> davecheney: looks like I should steal some safeguards from yours, though.
[01:58] <perrito666> mm, the chmod wont work in windows, but since it is not tested it wont break anything either
[01:58] <natefinch> perrito666: chmod is just a noop on winows
[01:58] <perrito666> natefinch: not entirely
[01:58] <perrito666> there is an implementation in go that does something stupid
[01:59] <perrito666> it changes fs properties for the file but these are ignored by windows
[01:59] <natefinch> effectively a noop :)
[02:00] <perrito666> natefinch: well the fact that those things can be changed means that something is using them
[02:00] <perrito666> I have no clue what that is
[02:00] <perrito666> most likely windows 3 :p
[02:02] <thumper> menn0, davecheney, axw: team meeting
[02:07] <natefinch> davecheney: seems like this must be a bug: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3074/#comment19133
[02:33] <davecheney> coming
[02:33] <davecheney> oh
[02:33] <davecheney> i'm 33 mins late
[02:36] <davecheney> natefinch: thanks for your comments
[02:37] <davecheney> PTAL
[02:37] <natefinch> davecheney: we're still talking on the hangout btw
[02:37] <davecheney> ok, coming
[02:49] <natefinch> davecheney: tests?
[02:52] <natefinch> thumper: Looking at that retry package, seems like it would be useful to be able to encapsulate call args into a value, and then be able to call value.Call(somefunc) .... so you could use the same retry semantics with any number of different functions. Also it then doesn't hide the function you're retrying inside a huge list of args.
[02:53] <natefinch> thumper: also you should call the package sisyphus
[02:56] <davecheney> natefinch: this is only temporary
[02:56] <davecheney> once everyone is at yaml.v2 i'll be deleting those forks
[02:56] <davecheney> my goal is not to move code from other packages into juju
[02:56] <davecheney> in fact the opposite
[02:56] <davecheney> but this yaml.v2 dep keeps fucking that plan up
[03:08] <cherylj> what's the difference between stateaddresses and apiaddresses in agent.conf?
[03:10] <cherylj> thumper, menn0 ^^ ?
[03:11] <menn0> cherylj: iirc stateaddresses has the mongodb server addresses and apiaddresses is the API server addresses
[03:12] * menn0 checks something
[03:13] <thumper> natefinch: interesting idea
[03:13] <menn0> cherylj: yep, that's right
[03:13] <thumper> natefinch: and pretty easy to implement
[03:14] <menn0> cherylj: really stateaddresses shouldn't be there except on the state/controller servers, but it is
[03:14] <cherylj> ok, thanks, menn0
[03:14] <menn0> cherylj: it's probably a historical vestiage - non state agents used to connect directly to mongo for some things
[03:15] <thumper> menn0: could I get you to cast your eyes over http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3072/ ?
[03:15] <thumper> cherylj: menn0 is right in his musings :)
[03:18] <menn0> cherylj: related tidbit: a lot of (probably older) code uses "state" to mean "the mongodb server". not at all confusing.
[03:18] <menn0> thumper: looking
[03:18] <cherylj> ha, ok :)
[03:25] <natefinch> thumper: also, if you're going to make retry a standalone package, you gotta move clock into a standalone package
[03:26] <thumper> natefinch: axw is moving the clock out in his one
[03:26] <natefinch> thumper: awesome
[03:26] <thumper> natefinch, axw: although perhaps we should have a common top level one...
[03:26] <thumper> axw: perhaps juju/clock ...
[03:26] <axw> natefinch: FYI, this is the branch talked about on the call: https://github.com/axw/juju-time
[03:26] <axw> thumper: I was thinking juju/time/clock, but *shrug*
[03:27] <natefinch> thumper: yeah. thats what I meant, just juju/clock
[03:27] <thumper> axw: I was thinking more to have a common parent for the scheduler one too, rather that the clock with the scheduler
[03:28] <axw> thumper: yes, definitely not in the one package
[03:28] <axw> we have enough utils already :)
[03:28] <thumper> I was thinking not in the same repo
[03:28] <thumper> agreed
[03:34] <natefinch> thumper: btw, I think the error handling in your retry code could be improved by following davecheney's advice to assert behavior: http://dave.cheney.net/2014/12/24/inspecting-errors .. so like have a 'Last() error' method on the error types, etc.
[03:35] * thumper looks
[03:35] <menn0> thumper: well that sucked. review done. lots of stuff missed.
[03:35] <thumper> menn0: :(
[03:35] <menn0> thumper: the review process sucked... not the PR
[03:35] <thumper> menn0: it isn't complete...
[03:35] <thumper> geez
[03:35] <thumper> there is another one following...
[03:35] <thumper> I think
[03:35] <thumper> at least
[03:35] * thumper looks
[03:36] <menn0> thumper: there's lots of test names that still say System and bits of help text missed and a few other things
[03:36] <thumper> ok
[03:37] <menn0> thumper: I basically just did a search in my browser for "system" looked to see if it came up on the right side of the diff :)
[03:37] <menn0> thumper: also "server" comes up a bit
[03:37] * thumper sighs
[03:37] <menn0> not sure if you're fixing those
[03:37] <thumper> so much stuff to change
[03:42] <natefinch> I can't believe we're spending so much time just to change the names of things, instead of, like, implementing features.
[03:44] <natefinch> oh yeah, hey, I had a 1.26-alpha1.1 server running, and tried to interact with it via a client built from master, and was getting this error message printing out with a lot of my commands: 2015/11/04 21:27:00 warning: discarding cookies in invalid format (error: json: cannot unmarshal object into Go value of type []cookiejar.entry)
[03:47] <natefinch> davecheney: what's wrong with this picture? https://github.com/juju/persistent-cookiejar/blob/master/jar.go#L10
[03:50] <davecheney> natefinch: the type isn't public ?
[03:50] <natefinch> davecheney: repo name is "persistent-cookiejar" :/
[03:50] <natefinch> package name is "cookiejar
[03:50] <davecheney> oh for fucks sake
[03:51] * davecheney throws something
[03:51] <natefinch> also, using that package seems to break client-server compatibility
[03:51] <natefinch> I saw this:
[03:51] <natefinch> $ juju destroy-environment local -y
[03:51] <natefinch> ERROR cannot connect to API: cannot load cookies: json: cannot unmarshal object into Go value of type []cookiejar.entry
[03:52] <natefinch> whewn my client was a different version than my server... presumably one of them was using the old cookiejar and one the new
[03:52] * davecheney bursts into tears
[03:53] <davecheney> natefinch: i'm convencined we've passed more than 100% technical debt to gdp
[03:53] <natefinch> davecheney: time to rewrite juju in rust
[03:55] <davecheney> that wasn't the exact point I was trying to make ...
[03:57] <natefinch> davecheney: well, we're working on tech debt at oakland, right? One week should just about do it.
[04:05] <davecheney> i'll be late
[04:07] * natefinch calls it a night to go read his new Go programming book
[04:28] <thumper> davecheney: https://github.com/howbazaar/clock-proposed
[04:28] <thumper> davecheney: I know you like non-util named packages :)
[04:28] <thumper> davecheney: to become github.com/juju/clock
[04:28] <thumper> axw: ^^
[04:28] <thumper> added in the testing clock from juju/juju/testing/clock.go
[04:29] <thumper> and added a few tests
[04:29] <thumper> and type assertions in the test file
[04:32] <axw> thumper: LGTM, but I'd like it if you renamed clock/testing to clock/clocktest
[04:33] <axw> thumper: saves aliasing everywhere
[04:33] <thumper> clock/testclock?
[04:33] <axw> thumper: I was thinking clocktest as in testing things related to the clock package, not as in a package that contains a TestClock
[04:33] <thumper> I agree with renaming it
[04:34] <axw> thumper: much like net/http/httptest
[04:34] <thumper> ah.. ok
[04:34] <thumper> happy to follow precident
[04:36] <axw> thumper: still not really sure about having a whole repo to its own. we're goingto want other time-related things which would be nice to group together
[04:36] <axw> thumper: e.g. delay functions for retry/scheduler/backoff thing that bogdan is working
[04:37] <thumper> axw: let's ask fwereade, given tech-lead hat :)
[04:37] <axw> thumper: I'm thinking they'd live in juju/time/delays or something like that... and then having clock over by itself feels a bit odd
[04:37] <axw> thumper: SGTM
[04:43] <davecheney> \o/ all praise the clock
[04:43] <davecheney> 15:32 < axw> thumper: LGTM, but I'd like it if you renamed clock/testing to clock/clocktest
[04:43] <davecheney> ^ yes, a million times, yes
[04:44] <thumper> I'm just asking our architect and TLs about guidance around separate repo for clock, or one for time that includes the scheduler that axw has
[04:44] <thumper> davecheney: the clock-proposed repo now has that package renamed
[04:44] <davecheney> thumper: also if it's going to be a juju project, it needs a cute name
[04:44] <davecheney> what about clocky ? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Clocky_almond_panorama1680.jpg
[04:45] <thumper> :)
[04:46] <thumper> axw: got the link to your time proposed repo?
[04:46] <thumper> axw: I'll include it in the email
[04:46] <axw> thumper: https://github.com/axw/juju-time
[04:46] <thumper> ta
[04:47] <menn0> thumper: here's juju-dumplogs. I'm just doing the /usr/local/bin symlink now.
[04:47] <menn0> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3075/
[04:50] <thumper> menn0: I'll continue reviewing shortly, got to go and drop of kids to guides/show
[04:50] <thumper> bbs
[04:51] <menn0> thumper: np
[07:54] <jam> morning all
[09:13] <dimitern> dooferlad, hey, can you check if you open http://imgur.com/a/ky3cl please?
[09:13] <fwereade> dimitern, nice
[09:14] <dooferlad> dimitern: yep
[09:14] <dimitern> fwereade, dooferlad, thanks :)
[09:14] <dimitern> wasn't sure I need to actually sign up for imgur to "public" the album - never used it, and their UI is confusing
[09:20] <dooferlad> dimitern: I have an environment in EC2 that has had its agent-state-info stuck in "Request limit exceeded" since last night.
[09:20] <dooferlad> dimitern: any thoughts?
[09:21] <dimitern> dooferlad, hmm - is it the shared account?
[09:21] <dooferlad> dimitern: https://console.aws.amazon.com/trustedadvisor/home?#/dashboard says I am below the service limits
[09:22] <dooferlad> so I expect this is a cached response :-|
[09:23] <dimitern> dooferlad, if it's the shared account, I can have a look
[09:23] <dooferlad> dimitern: it is shared, in eu-central
[09:23] <dimitern> dooferlad, ok, looking
[09:24] <dooferlad> dimitern: and, the fun part is, I only have 3 machines running after I did an ensure-availability -n 3 and had a charm on machine 1.
[09:25] <dooferlad> dimitern: so it looks like Juju tried to add another machine then gave up
[09:25] <dooferlad> dimitern: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13111330/
[09:27] <dimitern> dooferlad, that smells like the instancepoller getting overexcited
[09:27] <dimitern> and polling more often than needed
[09:27] <dooferlad> dimitern: even though we are, at the moment, under limit?
[09:28] <dooferlad> dimitern: ignore that comment, I was looking at service limits, not request limits
[09:33] <dooferlad> dimitern: we definitely need exponential backoff in our EC2 API with automatic retries. Is it supposed to have it already?
[09:33] <dimitern> dooferlad, IIRC we already have that
[09:33] <dimitern> dooferlad, or maybe it was just for the instancepoller
[09:35] <dooferlad> dimitern: it shouldn't be related to the bug I am looking at anyway since the customer is using MAAS.
[09:35] <dimitern> dooferlad, yeah
[09:37] <dimitern> dooferlad, can you try destroy-machine --force on those with the error and add new ones?
[09:38] <dooferlad> dimitern: possibly, but it isn't important right now. Was just wondering about a quick fix.
[09:38] <dooferlad> dimitern: just seemed odd
[09:39] <dimitern> dooferlad, indeed - before destroying the env, it might be useful to get the machine-0.log for some insight
[10:37] <jam> frobware: sorry I missed standup. Was still meeting with Mark. are you guys still chatting?
[10:38] <frobware> jam: yep
[10:38] <frobware> jam: into topics "catacomb and rate limiting"
[10:39] <jam> k. using the restroom and I'll be right there
[11:06] <fwereade> jam, it's a `.Kill(nil)`, so that's even easier :)
[11:10] * perrito666 applies for a visa for the first time in around 20 years
[11:10] <perrito666> axw: you have a pretty strict migration policy :p
[12:31] <lazypower> dimitern - Help me out for a sec. Whats the name of your juju-core team?
[12:31] <rick_h__> lazypower: sapphire
[12:31] <lazypower> ah! thank you
[12:31] <lazypower> is there a chart/roster somewhere?
[12:32] <lazypower> It'll help when blogging and pointing credit arrows :D
[12:32] <rick_h__> lazypower: honestly I use the canonical directory
[12:32] <lazypower> Ah, allright
[12:32] <rick_h__> lazypower: if you look up dimiter it shows "Juju Core - Sapphire" as his team
[12:32] <rick_h__> lazypower: I'm sure there's others but just what I tend to use when I forget.
[12:33] <dimitern> lazypower, hey :)
[12:33] <perrito666> it would be really nice to have an api for the directory so I can write a plugin for my irc client
[12:34] <rick_h__> perrito666: come on, web scrapers ftw! :P
[12:34] <lazypower> perrito666 - automate away the pain. Embedded profiles for IRC
[12:40] <jam> perrito666: do you know about mup?
[13:31] <perrito666> jam: I do I would like my client to show me faces on hover though :)
[13:32] <jam> perrito666: would be good
[13:48] <cherylj> frankban: I see that you're reverting your update for crypto. Was it updated originally for a particular reason?
[13:50] <mup> Bug #1513466 opened: Different behavior on ServiceDeploy with Config/ConfigYAML <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513466>
[13:51] <mup> Bug #1513468 opened: imports github.com/juju/juju/workload/api/internal/client: use of internal package not allowed <blocker> <ci> <regression> <testing> <wily> <juju-core:New> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513468>
[14:05] <frankban> cherylj: I don;t remember specific reasons, probably just ended up there because it was updated in my GOPATH by some other project
[14:05] <cherylj> frankban: ok, thanks!
[14:06] <frankban> cherylj: should I merge it?
[14:06] <cherylj> frankban: did your local tests pass?
[14:07] <frankban> cherylj: I alway have some intermittent failures locally, but they seems not related to the downgrade, CI will tell us I guess
[14:07] * cherylj curses intermittent failures
[14:07] <cherylj> frankban: yes, please merge
[14:08] <frankban> cherylj: done, how do we know if this fixes armhf?
[14:09] <cherylj> frankban: I don't think we have any way to test that without requesting images be built for 1.26-alpha 1
[14:10] <frankban> cherylj: ok, does merging this automatically unblock master?
[14:10] <cherylj> frankban: no, we'll need to verify that the fix worked first
[14:11] <perrito666> someone gave more machine to CI? curses are coming faster
[14:11] <frankban> cherylj: Does not match ['fixes-1513236'], I wrote fixes-1513236 in the pr comment, what else should I do?
[14:11] <perrito666> frankban: $$fixes-1513236$$ should do the trick
[14:11] <cherylj> frankban: use "$$fixes-1513236$$"
[14:11] <cherylj> rather than $$merge$$
[14:12] <frankban> ok done
[14:14] <cherylj> thanks, frankban!
[14:40] <abentley> frankban: If master is blessed, your bug will automatically be marked fix-released. If there are no other blockers, that will unblock master.
[14:40] <frankban> abentley: sounds good
[14:45] <frankban> cherylj: downgrade branch landed
[14:47] <abentley> frankban: master bec300366 now testing.
[15:00] <mup> Bug #1513492 opened: add-machine with vsphere triggers machine-0: panic: juju home hasn't been initialized <add-machine> <panic> <vsphere> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513492>
[15:00] <cory_fu> With the release of Juju 1.25, we seem to be seeing shorter idle times on the agent-state, possibly due to update-status hook being called more frequently. Was there a specific change related to that in 1.25?
[15:01] <perrito666> bbl lunch
[15:01] <perrito666> cory_fu: update status hook will call before entering idle status
[15:01] <perrito666> but the added time there might make idle time shorter as a consequence
[15:01] <perrito666> fwereade: correct me if that changed
[15:02] <perrito666> now yes, bbl
[15:03] <fwereade> perrito666, cory_fu: yes, I wouldn't expect a non-errored agent to be idle for longer than 5 mins (I think that's the update-status period)
[15:03] <fwereade> cory_fu, but if it never gets close to that there might be something up
[15:04] <cory_fu> I'm not sure if I understand. The issue I'm running up against is that I'm waiting for a 30s idle period and am not seeing it within a 30min window. This seems to mostly happen on Azure
[15:05] <cory_fu> Which is notoriously slow for these deploys, so that may be a factor.
[15:05] <tvansteenburgh> cory_fu: i have examples on other clouds too
[15:05] <cory_fu> tvansteenburgh: But it's not 100% consistent on other clouds?
[15:06] <tvansteenburgh> cory_fu: azure is notable b/c it hasn't passed on 1.25 at all. hp on the other hand, has passed at least twice :P
[15:07] <katco> wwitzel3: standup?
[15:08] <wwitzel3> katco: trying .. :/
[15:25] <tvansteenburgh> fwereade, cory_fu: seems to me that agent-status.since should not be updated unless the value of agent-status.current actually changes
[15:25] <fwereade> tvansteenburgh, right, but it executes a hook every 5 minutes
[15:25] <fwereade> tvansteenburgh, is workload-status also shortened?
[15:26] <fwereade> tvansteenburgh, I would expect ~5mins of idle, separated by (likely) sub-second blips of executing
[15:27] <tvansteenburgh> fwereade: no, in our examples, wordload-status.since is much older - 8 to 15 minutes older in the one i'm looking at
[15:27] <fwereade> tvansteenburgh, cool, I think that's what I'd expect
[15:27] <fwereade> tvansteenburgh, is it unhelpful to you?
[15:30] <tvansteenburgh> fwereade: i'm not sure. we've been using agent-status.since to determine when an environment had "settled" - all agents idle for 30 seconds. that worked well prior to 1.25, but now we see most deployments never reaching that settled state. trying to figure out what changed
[15:30] <frankban> cherylj, abentley: bec30036 failed, errors don't seem related though
[15:31] <fwereade> tvansteenburgh, well, the update-status thing is the clear proximate cause, but ultimately I think it's incorrect to depend on agent status as a proxy for environment stability
[15:32] <fwereade> tvansteenburgh, that should be what workload-status is for -- assuming the charm implements it
[15:32] <abentley> frankban: no, but it does seem like a legit failure. The same test failed for the last test of master.
[15:34] <tvansteenburgh> fwereade: yeah, fair enough. we were trying to accommodate the charms that don't, but i see your point
[15:35] <fwereade> tvansteenburgh, cool -- forwarded you a mail where I go into a bit more detail, in case it's relevant :)
[15:35] <tvansteenburgh> fwereade: thanks!
[15:36] <frankban> abentley: how do we check that https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1513236 is fixed?
[15:36] <mup> Bug #1513236: Cannot build trusty armhf with go1.2 on from master <armhf> <blocker> <go1.2> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513236>
[15:36] <katco> davecheney: did you have a golang issue or something to justify unblocking master for bug 1513236 ?
[15:37] <katco> davecheney: (just now seeing your message) i'd like to update that bug with justification before untagging it as a blocker
[15:37] <abentley> frankban: Regardless of whether that bug is fixed, we don't want to unblock until we get a bless.
[15:38] <frankban> abentley: I don't question that
[15:40] <abentley> frankban: That's tricky, because we don't build armhf as part of testing, because we don't have suitable hardware to test with. I'd talk to sinzui.
[15:41] <sinzui> abentley: mgz: I beleive we could crossbuild it, which would catch the error.
[15:41] <natefinch> abentley, frankban, sinzui : note that davecheney said that this was very likely an upstream go 1.2 bug that is not likely to be fixed anytime soon, possibly ever
[15:42] <sinzui> abentley: mgz: I was also thinking of asking for armhf hardware, but mgz might be able to prove the cae for us with this chromebook
[15:42] <sinzui> natefinch: yeah, Go has moved on to newer versions
[15:50] <cherylj> hey dimitern, is there any update on bug 1483879? I know the fix isn't trivial, but the bug was brought up in the cross team call and I wanted to make sure it was still in progress...
[15:50] <mup> Bug #1483879: MAAS provider: terminate-machine --force or destroy-environment don't DHCP release container IPs <bug-squad> <destroy-machine> <landscape> <maas-provider> <sts> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483879>
[15:52] <dimitern> cherylj, it still is - I'm close to proposing 1.24 fix (needed to fix my maas setup to test it properly, which I finished a couple of hours ago)
[15:52] <cherylj> dimitern: great, thanks! I'll put an update in the bug that it's close for 1.24.
[15:52] <cherylj> dimitern: will it be difficult to forward port?
[15:53] <dimitern> cherylj, the 1.24 fix is the most difficult, as it needs some cherry-picking from 1.25
[15:53] <cherylj> ah, ok
[15:53] <dimitern> cherylj, the 1.25 and master forward ports should be much simpler
[15:58] <natefinch> wwitzel3, ericsnow: fyi, a few tests failed on the lxd build tags merge, I can fix easily, but just letting you know.
[15:58] <ericsnow> natefinch: k
[15:59] <wwitzel3> natefinch: ty
[16:01] <natefinch> alexisb, katco: I notice the "roomie" thing on the oakland spreadsheet says N/A for everyone. Does that mean we all get our own rooms?
[16:02] <katco> natefinch: that is my understanding
[16:02] <natefinch> katco: awesome :)
[16:02] <katco> natefinch: yes, as an introvert that makes me extremely happy
[16:03] <katco> natefinch: i.e. i'll actually have a place i can recharge
[16:03] * dooferlad is a happy introvert as well at this news
[16:03] <natefinch> katco: yeah, totally understand that
[16:04] <natefinch> katco: I'm generally fine with sharing a room... right up until the actual sleeping part... then I really just want my own room, thankyouverymuch.
[16:05] <katco> natefinch: it's pretty disastrous for me as i feel like i have to be "on" for 24/7 for an entire week
[16:07] <wwitzel3> I usually wake up at 7am and don't go to bed until 3am during sprints .. they should really do a timeshare thing, probably save money
[16:07] <katco> wwitzel3: 1:1?
[16:08] <wwitzel3> I also feed off the engery of introverts, so that helps
[16:08] <natefinch> wwitzel3: rofl
[16:08] <katco> haha
[16:16] <lazypower> > I feed off he energy of introverts
[16:16] <lazypower> strange place to join the conversation, but knowing wwitzel3 i'm not surprised...
[16:21] <wwitzel3> lazypower: :)
[16:22] <natefinch> no wonder wwitzel3 likes programming so much... neverending supply of food.
[16:31] <frobware> cherylj, would you have time to try a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1412621
[16:31] <mup> Bug #1412621: replica set EMPTYCONFIG MAAS bootstrap <adoption> <bootstrap> <bug-squad> <charmers> <cpec> <cpp> <maas-provider> <mongodb> <oil> <juju-core:Triaged by frobware> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412621>
[16:36] <natefinch> man, prices for flights went up like 25% from yesterday afternoon :/
[16:36] <perrito666> natefinch: nearing christmas
[16:37] <natefinch> perrito666: I think we just crossed the "30 days from flight day" mark
[16:37] <perrito666> ah, ok, that makes me panic
[16:38] <perrito666> my before trip todo is especially long
[17:03] <ericsnow> natefinch: I found a couple typos in your build constraints patch (left a review)
[17:06] <natefinch> ericsnow: thanks!
[17:06] <ericsnow> natefinch: np
[17:06] <ericsnow> natefinch: found it while rebasing my patches on yours :)
[17:08] <natefinch> ericsnow: "how did this compile before?" exactly my question
[17:08] <ericsnow> natefinch: I don't think it did :/
[17:10] <natefinch> ericsnow: there were two compiler errors before I even changed anything. My guess is that they were because of a merge/rebase
[17:10] <ericsnow> natefinch: yep
[17:10] <natefinch> ericsnow: fixed those spots btw
[17:11] <ericsnow> natefinch: thanks
[17:11] <natefinch> ericsnow: the only thing left is some provisioner tests that are failing
[17:12] <ericsnow> natefinch: weird
[17:12] <ericsnow> natefinch: look for instance.LXD in those tests
[17:12] <mup> Bug #1513552 opened: master cannot deploy charms <blocker> <charm> <ci> <deploy> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513552>
[17:12] <natefinch> the letters lxd don't even exist in files in this directory :/
[17:15] <natefinch> ericsnow: it's suspicious because it's in container_initialisation_test.go .. which implies it is our fault (maybe we're being punished for the UK spelling in the filename)
[17:39] <perrito666> bbll
[17:40] * perrito666 goes to curse ha screaming and will be back later
[17:41] <cherylj> natefinch: can you take a look at bug 1513552? It looks like some of your recent commits are causing widespread CI failures
[17:41] <mup> Bug #1513552: master cannot deploy charms <blocker> <charm> <ci> <deploy> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513552>
[17:48] <ericsnow> alexisb: sorry, zillow killed my browser
[17:48] <alexisb> lol
[17:48] <alexisb> :)
[18:11] <cherylj> could anyone tell me when we would see SECURE_STATESERVER_CONNECTION: "false" in agent.conf rather than "true"?
[18:38] <natefinch> cherylj: ok looking
[19:12] <natefinch> hmm... many of those failures mention deployer... seems suspicious
[19:13] <natefinch> sinzui: I wonder if deployer is doing something different than juju-core... because I can deploy charms just fine with juju deploy
[19:13] <natefinch> sinzui: re: that "cannot assign unit" problem
[19:14] <natefinch> katco: FYI, spending some non-trivial time looking into bug 1513552
[19:14] <mup> Bug #1513552: master cannot deploy charms <blocker> <charm> <ci> <deploy> <regression> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513552>
[19:15] <sinzui> natefinch: the deployer jobs that stand up openstack report the same problem
[19:15] <katco> natefinch: yep thx for the heads-up
[19:15] <sinzui> natefinch: eg: http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/3270/job/OS-deployer/attempt/502
[19:16] <sinzui> natefinch: the quickstart error is also the same (though reported differently) http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/3270/job/aws-quickstart-bundle/attempt/1282
[19:17] <sinzui> ^ landscape bundle
[19:17] <natefinch> sinzui: do we have tests that just use juju deploy?
[19:18] <natefinch> (not being snarky, real question... want to make sure I'm right in thinking it's deployer etc)
[19:18] <sinzui> natefinch: to deploy a bundle? not yet
[19:19] <natefinch> sinzui: no, to deploy a charm
[19:20] <sinzui> natefinch: many tens of tests deploy a charm
[19:20] <natefinch> sinzui: and those all pass? So it's just deployer and quickstart?
[19:21] <sinzui> natefinch: no. http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/3270 clearly shows "deploy", "deployer", and "quickstart" are broken on all substrates, all series, all archs
[19:21] <sinzui> natefinch: this shows every test that failed in the two revs that were tested http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/issue/563b902c749a563ed218b6cf
[19:26] <sinzui> natefinch: I think I see the issue :)
[19:26] <sinzui> natefinch: nm, I am looking at stale data
[19:27] <cherylj> aww, I had gotten my hopes up
[19:48] <natefinch> man I wish we didn't redact the API parameters
[19:55] <ericsnow> fwereade: isn't it gloomy in the catacombs?
[19:55] <ericsnow> fwereade: I suppose they have a certain charm :)
[19:55] <fwereade> ericsnow, terribly glum, yeah :)
[20:00] <thumper> menn0: test failure: [LOG] 0:00.206 ERROR juju.apiserver debug-log handler error: tailer stopped: tailable cursor requested on non capped collection
[20:00] <wwitzel3> katco ericsnow natefinch ping
[20:02] <katco> wwitzel3: brt
[20:10] <natefinch> sinzui: I bet this is a race condition where the script is calling expose or something before the unit has a machine assigned, and that's causing us to go down a codepath we didn't previously go down, because unit creation and assignment happened in lock step.
[20:10] <natefinch> sinzui: because a simple deploy definitely still works
[20:13] <sinzui> natefinch: maybe. the deploy_stack.py copies a lot of deployment where expose is called immediately after deploy and add-relation. I thnk deployer though deferred that operation until relations were added, and relations were deffered until all units were up
[20:15] <sinzui> natefinch: http://reports.vapour.ws/releases/3270/job/aws-deploy-trusty-amd64/attempt/2476 does show that deploy, add-relation, and export were all called withing seconds of each other
[20:17] <katco> wwitzel3: ericsnow natefinch sorry, almost there
[20:23] <natefinch> sinzui: definitely looks like expose and/or add-relation is the problem, I can repro if I do juju deploy wordpress && juju add-relation wordpress mysql && juju expose wordpress
[20:23] <thumper> fwereade: ping
[20:23] <fwereade> thumper, pong
[20:23] <thumper> fwereade: can we chat in about 10min?
[20:24] <fwereade> thumper, sure
[20:24] <fwereade> natefinch, I think you're right
[20:25] <fwereade> natefinch, is that the firewaller falling over?
[20:30] <natefinch> fwereade: sorry, in a meeting
[20:32] <fwereade> natefinch, np
[20:37] <thumper> fwereade: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/chat?authuser=1
[21:26] <cherylj> wallyworld: you around?
[21:27] <wallyworld> cherylj: sorta
[21:27] <cherylj> wallyworld: could you ping me when you get a few minutes? I need some help with a bug
[21:27] <wallyworld> sure, give me 10 mins
[21:27] <cherylj> sounds good, thanks
[21:37] <wallyworld> cherylj: which bug?
[21:37] <cherylj> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1512782
[21:37] <mup> Bug #1512782: wget cert issues causing failure to create containers <cloud-installer> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512782>
[21:38] <cherylj> They're doing some weird stuff with their lxcbr0 and nested kvm / lxc
[21:39] <wallyworld> cherylj: give me a minute to read bug info; that's wget/lxc stuff hasn't changed in ages so it's likely to be specific to their setup
[21:40] <cherylj> The last update is probably the most useful
[21:41] <cherylj> wallyworld: this line in the machine-0.log also looks really weird to me: DEBUG juju.worker.certupdater certupdater.go:191 new addresses [localhost juju-apiserver juju-mongodb anything 10.0.7.1]
[21:42] <wallyworld> cherylj: that's normal - we use those hard coded names plus machine IP addresses in the CA cert SAN
[21:42] <cherylj> ok
[21:43] <wallyworld> cherylj: what may be the issue though is that we add the IP address of juju managed maches to the cert SAN - that I address has to be the source of where the wget comes from
[21:43] <wallyworld> if they are using some weird network setup the cert addresses won't match
[21:43] <cherylj> wallyworld: I think that's the case
[21:44] <wallyworld> hmmm
[21:44] <wallyworld> off hand i'm not sure how to solve that
[21:44] <cherylj> the logs for the lxc-create show they're getting the image through 10.0.3.45, but the only ip in the certupdater is the 10.0.7.1
[21:44] <wallyworld> yup
[21:44] <menn0> thumper: wrt to that the juju-run/juju-dumplogs symlink issue, I've had a better idea
[21:44] <wallyworld> the cert updater wroks off listening to the addresses juju records for the machines
[21:44] <thumper> menn0: yeah?
[21:45] <menn0> thumper: make the symlinks relative to the cmd.Context's Dir
[21:45] <thumper> will that always work?
[21:45] <wallyworld> cherylj: so we need to look at the address updater worker to see how to make it recognise and report the correct addresses
[21:45] <menn0> thumper: in production this will be "/", but in tests (when using testing.RunCommand) it'll be a temp directory
[21:45] <wallyworld> cherylj: off hand, i'd need to look into how all that works
[21:46] <thumper> menn0: have you checked that production it is "/" ?
[21:46] <menn0> thumper: yep, I just checked that
[21:46] <thumper> menn0: also consider the current local provider
[21:46] <menn0> thumper: what's different with the local provider?
[21:46] <thumper> menn0: it is just "special"
[21:46] <thumper> datadir is ~/.juju/<env-name>/
[21:47] <wallyworld> cherylj: actrually, looking at the logs, that 10.0.3.45 address is the state server address
[21:47] <menn0> thumper: yep, that's not related to this. the source of the symlink doesn't change. it's just where the symlink gets put.
[21:47] <wallyworld> i'm talking about the machine on which the container is being created
[21:47] <thumper> menn0: k
[21:47] <cherylj> wallyworld: yeah...
[21:47] <menn0> thumper: i'll make the change now as a separate PR so you can have a look
[21:48] <wallyworld> cherylj: so we need to ensure the CA cert records in its SAN list the IP addresses of all worker machines, the addresses from which wget requests originate
[21:49] <wallyworld> that means we need juju to record the correct thing in the machine address field
[21:50] <wallyworld> so we need the machine agent (i think it's the agent) to report the correct addresses
[21:50] <wallyworld> not sure how smart this all is with different nrtwork setups
[21:51] <cherylj> wallyworld: I see that it picks up 10.0.3.45 as a machine address. Not sure why the certupdater didn't include that one
[21:51] <wallyworld> cherylj: that's the state server address
[21:51] <wallyworld> we need to record the machine address from which the wget originates
[21:52] <wallyworld> cherylj: so we need each machine to correctly report to juju its address
[21:52] <wallyworld> or addresses
[21:52] <wallyworld> those are stored in the machine addresses field in state
[21:53] <wallyworld> that's what the cert updater listens to
[21:53] <wallyworld> i think its the machine agent on each machine which reports those addresses
[21:53] <cherylj> wallyworld: you mean like this? INFO juju.worker.machiner machiner.go:100 setting addresses for machine-0 to ["local-machine:127.0.0.1" "local-cloud:192.168.122.1" "local-cloud:10.0.3.45" "local-machine:::1"]
[21:53] <wallyworld> so my guess from memory is that we need to look at how the machine agent queries its host addresses
[21:54] <wallyworld> cherylj: are they running the lxc containers on machine 0?
[21:55] <wallyworld> i was assuming there'd be a machine 1 or 2 or whatever
[21:56] <cherylj> wallyworld: no, I think they're doing it on machine-1
[21:56] <wallyworld> i think you said they were nesting lxc inside kvm?
[21:56] <wallyworld> cherylj: right ok. so whatever the source IP address of the wget request is has to be recorded in the SAN list
[21:57] <wallyworld> cherylj: that source address is the machine hosting the lxc containers
[21:57] <wallyworld> which is typically machine 1's address. or it needs to be the kvm address if lxc inside kvm
[21:58] <wallyworld> cherylj: so there needs to be a line in the logs like the above but which says setting addresses for machine-1 ....
[21:58] <cherylj> wallyworld: okay, I see what you mean now
[21:59] <wallyworld> cherylj: i have to relocate, will be afk for 20 minutes
[21:59] <cherylj> wallyworld: sure, np
[22:24] <ericsnow> natefinch: check out http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3080/
[22:26] <menn0> thumper: this approach is working out pretty nicely
[22:26] <thumper> menn0: awesome
[22:26] <thumper> menn0: did the no tail bit land in master?
[22:26] <thumper> menn0: it may help me fix this problem :)
[22:27] <menn0> thumper: yep, that's landed
[22:29] <menn0> man there's lots of tests that use cmd.DefaultContext that should probably be using cmdtesting.Context
[22:29] * menn0 ignores for now
[22:32] <perrito666> and then you froze
[22:32] <perrito666> wwitzel3:
[22:32] <perrito666> I meant wallyworld
[22:58] <axw_> perrito666: what do you need a visa for?
[22:59] <perrito666> axw_: enter australia
[22:59] <axw_> perrito666: just for meetings? :/
[23:02] <perrito666> axw_: I got an e-visa
[23:16] <wallyworld> perrito666: we're here now
[23:27] <davechen1y> https://github.com/docker/docker/pull/17700
[23:27] <davechen1y> ^ docker have removed support for lxc
[23:31] <mup> Bug #1513659 opened: 1.24.6 fails to bootstrap with "ERROR juju.cmd supercommand.go:430 upgrade in progress - Juju functionality is limited" <cloud-installer> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513659>
[23:37] <mup> Bug #1513659 changed: 1.24.6 fails to bootstrap with "ERROR juju.cmd supercommand.go:430 upgrade in progress - Juju functionality is limited" <cloud-installer> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513659>
[23:40] <mup> Bug #1513659 opened: 1.24.6 fails to bootstrap with "ERROR juju.cmd supercommand.go:430 upgrade in progress - Juju functionality is limited" <cloud-installer> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513659>
[23:44] <davechen1y> mwhudson: ding ding ding.
[23:45] * mwhudson vibrates tunefully
[23:45] <mwhudson> davechen1y: eh?
[23:47] <davechen1y> your ppc64 observation
[23:48] <ericsnow> katco: am I okay landing my fix of natefinch's patch? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3080/
[23:48] <mwhudson> davechen1y: ah heh
[23:49] <ericsnow> katco: I'd like to land those LXD patches today
[23:49] <mwhudson> davechen1y: can you re-run test_shared on arm64 pls?
[23:49] <mwhudson> davechen1y: that was pretty mystically debugging from russ
[23:50] <davechen1y> he is the master to psychic debugging
[23:50] <davechen1y> mwhudson: arm64 -- will do
[23:51] <mwhudson> ta
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-uos-convergence
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[09:28] <sgroimax> hey there mariogrip how is radio cell fix?
[14:01] <mhall119> getting everybody on, will start the broadcast in a couple minutes
[14:01] <troll_dood> mhall119: :)
[14:01] <mhall119> also,welcome everybody to the last day of UOS!
[14:02] <Dragos> hello
[14:03] <andrewlsd> greetings
[14:03] <Dragos> hi andrewlsd
[14:04] <jackult> hello everyone
[14:04] <Dragos> hello devs
[14:04] <troll_dood> hello
[14:04] <Dragos> troll_dood: are u a dev?
[14:05] <justCarakas> ello
[14:06] <mhall119> going live now
[14:06] <justCarakas> we can see you
[14:07] <super_potatoe> hi all, iz late?
[14:07] <Dragos> QUESTION:What is Convergence?
[14:08] <mhall119> Ask questions here, starting with QUESTION in all caps
[14:08] <mhall119> just like Dragos did :)
[14:08] <Dragos> xD
[14:09] <Dragos> phesktop
[14:09] <Dragos> phone+desktop
[14:09] <super_potatoe> QUESTION: why does it takes so long for qml apps to load on Ubuntu Phone, even the core apps like the dialer?
[14:10] <Dragos> QUESTION:Is ubuntu phone 13.04 still usable?
[14:11] <aquarius> QUESTION: there are a bunch of restrictions on phone apps which make quite a lot less sense on desktop (obvious one: background processes, but also lack of access to files, etc). Is there a plan to relax confinement on desktop-class devices, or will my desktop computer be restricted like it's a battery-poor phone once we have One Ubuntu across all devices?
[14:12] <michelr> QUESTION: a phone app has her name in header. When running in desktop, it also has name in window title. Will that duplicate stay in final Unity8 ?
[14:12] <Dragos> is ubuntu phone unity8 support desktop mode?
[14:12] <super_potatoe> thanks
[14:13] <mhall119> Dragos: you forgot QUESTION
[14:14] <aquarius> QUESTION: is the capability for convergence (driving an external screen) going to be a required capability for future phones released with partners? Or might there still be phones which can't do it, like the existing Ubuntu phones can't?
[14:14] <Dragos> yes
[14:14] <bbrawner> QUESTION: Is Unity the only desktop environment that is being developed with convergence in mind? Will we see LXDE, XFCE, GNOME etc with convergence capabilities?
[14:14] <Dragos> touch preview
[14:14] <super_potatoe> QUESTION: will the next new Ubuntu phones will all be able to converge? and what will happen to the current bq and meizu sold? will be able to converge?
[14:15] <aquarius> super_potatoe, the existing bq 4.5 and 5 and meizu mx-4 can't do convergence, sadly; that's a hardware thing.
[14:16] <Dragos> mhall119: ubuntu touch preview 13.04
[14:16] <zzarr> QUESTION: will I be able to use my Meizu MX4 with an external display in the future? (With bluetooth keyboard)
[14:17] <Dragos> QUESTION:will you continue making *-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip ubuntu phone ?
[14:18] <super_potatoe> QUESTION: what happened to the tablet mode? we haven't see any news for a long time
[14:18] <justCarakas> QUESTION are there plans to allow external screens to connect over wifi so we don't need slimports
[14:18] <aquarius> justCarakas, I'd really like that. Miracast or similar support would be great. Good question!
[14:19] <Dragos> * means something
[14:20] <Dragos> QUESTION:will there will be kde or lxde or xfce for ubuntu phone?
[14:20] <Sutter> hi
[14:22] <Dragos> QUESTION:what happened to ubuntu for android?
[14:22] <super_potatoe> QUESTION: what are the minimum hardware requirements for Ubuntu Personal? for ex what GPU and drivers
[14:22] <ahayzen> QUESTION: Will my unity8 laptop/desktop ever talk to my unity8 phone? so that when i get a notification on my phone it appears on my laptop (aka the same as what iOS/OS X currently does) and is there any timeline for this?
[14:23] <zzarr> QUESTION: will I be able to write SMS and make phone calls from a computer in the same LAN as the phone?
[14:23] <Geralt> Do you guys ever look to Wayland to help solve Mir issues?
[14:23] <Sutter> QUESTION: I bought Meizu Mx4... it's possible that this phone 'll be never convergence????
[14:24] <zzarr> sorry, my chatt application bugged
[14:24] <zzarr> ohh, the hole message is there, but I could not see it
[14:25] <aquarius> good question, zzarr. I'd like to see better communication between an Ubuntu phone and an Ubuntu desktop, when they're not the same device.
[14:26] <Dragos> mhall119: ubuntu phone preinstalled armhf for phablet
[14:27] <andrewlsd> Dragos: are you referring to a disk image?
[14:27] <core_apps_police> QUESTION: Ubuntu for phones does not have background apps, but the desktop has. When we plug the phone to a monitor we will get "background-apps" running?
[14:28] <michelr> QUESTION : is there a cpu arch preference for convergence ? ARM ou x86 ?
[14:28] <Dragos> andrewlsd: yes
[14:29] <justCarakas> QUESTION why not allow multi user mode on the phone that you can use for example to let your kids play on your phone
[14:29] <zzarr> Ubuntu for Ubuntu :D
[14:29] <Geralt> QUESTION: Do you guys work together with KDE Plasma Mobile developers? Also, doesn't Plamsa Mobile run on top of Ubuntu Touch?
[14:30] <Dragos> QUESTION:if i connect an ubuntu phone to a monitor will unity transform to desktop unity
[14:32] <mzanetti-> QUESTION: speaking of integration between desktop & phone. Will general sync (contacts, Pictures, maybe music/videos) show up on the roadmap?
[14:39] <kyrofa> mzanetti-, no server in the middle?
[14:39] <mhall119> any other questions, keep them coming in
[14:40] <Dragos> ok
[14:40] <mzanetti-> kyrofa, didn't even think about details, but *somehow* would be nice already :)
[14:40] <kyrofa> mzanetti-, easy to do via owncloud
[14:40] <mzanetti-> kyrofa, not easy, no
[14:40] <kyrofa> mzanetti-, but it might be nice to do it without a server
[14:40] <kyrofa> mzanetti-, just on the same LAN or something
[14:41] <michelr> QUESTION : about data sync, what is the status of U1DB ?
[14:42] <Dragos> mhall119: im romanian
[14:43] <Dragos> QUESTION:Can i still get ubuntu for android?
[14:43] <zzarr> QUESTION: how will legacy applications be implemented on a phone?
[14:44] <Dragos> im using an custom android image
[14:45] <justCarakas> QUESTION if I buy a slimport now for my nexus 4 will I be able to use it on the new convergent device ?
[14:45] <Dragos> QUESTION:Did you know that im romanian?
[14:45] <Geralt> QUESTION: Is the goal for a default Unity 8 still set for Ubuntu 16.10?
[14:45] <mhall119> Dragos: I know now :)
[14:46] <Dragos> QUESTION:Did u know that there is an app for ubuntu that lets you install mac os x apps on ubuntu?
[14:46] <core_apps_police> QUESTION: We will get a ISO of daily builds for unity 8 like we have today for the 16.04 with unity7?
[14:47] <zzarr> thanks for your answer
[14:47] <ahayzen> QUESTION: If i had a desktop only application packaged as a click/snap is there a way, or a plan, to allow me to only make that launchable when running in a converged or desktop view. Or must all apps submitted to the store scale from mobile through to TV ?
[14:47] <Dragos> QUESTION:How to install ubuntu tv?
[14:48] <zzarr> QUESTION: are there any focus on USB C/Thunderbolt 3?
[14:49] <Geralt> Awesome, thank you guys for the great answers!
[14:49] <Dragos> there is
[14:49] <Dragos> its called darling
[14:49] <Merk42> lol check with us in 6months. unity8 is always "the release after the current dev"
[14:50] <mzanetti-> Dragos, link?
[14:50] <zzarr> Dragos, check the https://www.darlinghq.org/ page
[14:50] <Dragos> i know the linl
[14:50] <Dragos> *link
[14:51] <Dragos> mzanetti-: https://www.darlinghq.org/ but you will need to compile it urself
[14:51] <Markcortbass> #QUESTION: Do you plan to support OpenMobile ACL for Android apps on Ubuntu Phone? That would awesome http://www.openmobileww.com/#!acl-for-ubuntu/c1sz2
[14:52] <Dragos> it was fun
[14:52] <Markcortbass> * It's already working for Firefox OS and Tizen
[14:53] <zzarr> thanks everyone, it have been a blast :D
[14:53] <justCarakas> QUESTION what is your number 1 wanted feature
[14:53] <Dragos> zzarr: dev?
[14:53] <zzarr> Dragos, what do you mean?
[14:54] <Dragos> are u a dev zzarr
[14:54] <zzarr> Dragos, I'm a developer, but I'm not working for Canonical
[14:54] <Dragos> ok
[14:55] <Dragos> it was fun
[14:55] <Dragos> :)
[14:55] <zzarr> it was :)
[14:55] <Dragos> xD
[14:55] <mhall119> oSoMoN: are you setting up the hangout for the next session?
[14:55] <ahayzen> thanks guys :-)
[14:55] <Shankey> QUESTION - Does Ubuntu convergence will drain battery more than expected??
[14:55] <Dragos> mhall119: it was fun :)
[14:55] <oSoMoN> mhall119, can you set it up? not very familiar with doing that
[14:56] <mhall119> oSoMoN: have you created on-air hangouts before?
[14:56] <zzarr> I'm working on a device that handles a number of sensors (a sort of universal sensor platform)
[14:56] <oSoMoN> nope
[14:56] <mhall119> ok, I'll set it up then :)
[14:56] <oSoMoN> thanks
[14:56] <Dragos> chating with devw
[14:56] <Dragos> chating with devs
[14:56] <oSoMoN> Iโm sure itโs not that hard, but I donโt want to delay the session just because I canโt find how to do itโฆ
[14:56] <Shankey> QUESTION - Does Ubuntu convergence will drain battery more than expected??
[14:57] <oSoMoN> Shankey, anything that drains the battery more than expected is a bug
[14:58] <Dragos> QUESTION: how can i join canonical?
[14:58] <oSoMoN> Dragos, http://www.canonical.com/careers
[14:58] <mhall119> Dragos: were you watching Jane's Q&A yesterday where she talked about that?
[14:58] <Dragos> If you want to make a difference, make the move to Canonical
[14:58] <Shankey> but how long ubuntu phones will hold the battery power while in convergence mode?? Any idea??
[14:58] <Dragos> i was gone
[14:59] <oSoMoN> mhall119, is the hangout ready?
[14:59] <mhall119> oSoMoN: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfUUP7ctxyAqFWgSueYg2eaafj8DGxl2zXoY32Z7qcP-XV_JA?hl=en&authuser=0
[14:59] <mhall119> trying to get Kaleo in here
[15:00] <mhall119> Kaleo: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfUUP7ctxyAqFWgSueYg2eaafj8DGxl2zXoY32Z7qcP-XV_JA?hl=en&authuser=0
[15:00] <Dragos> can i install ubuntu phone on iphone?
[15:00] <mhall119> Dragos: no
[15:00] <Dragos> oh
[15:01] <Dragos> can someone give me the link for next session?
[15:01] <mhall119> Dragos: if you want to do fun things like that, iphone is the wrong device for you :)
[15:01] <Elleo> Dragos: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22630/app-convergence/
[15:01] <Dragos> ok
[15:01] <Dragos> thanks
[15:02] <Shankey> hey guys what if i have to watch movie during convergence then how long ubuntu phone would hold battery power any idea about that??? i mean will it have the aqequate battery backup?
[15:02] <Dragos> see ya in next session
[15:02] <balloonsfan> bye
[15:03] <Dragos> hi
[15:03] <Kaleo> hi everyone :)
[15:03] <karni> o/ :)
[15:04] <mzanetti-> hi all!
[15:04] <Dragos> QUESTION:youtube app for ubuntu phone?
[15:04] <mzanetti-> Dragos, there is one in the store
[15:04] <Dragos> really?
[15:05] <mzanetti-> Dragos, https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.popey.youtube
[15:05] <popey> \o/
[15:06] <Dragos> video lag
[15:07] <ildorn> QUESTION: how will the app security model from phones influence desktop apps in convergence?
[15:07] <James_Mulholland> Hi all
[15:07] <Dragos> QESTION:terminal app for ubuntu touch preview?
[15:08] <kenvandine> preview? i don't think we've called it a preview in at least 2 years :)
[15:08] <Dragos> xD
[15:09] <karni> google hangouts doesn't like sharing some windows
[15:09] <karni> yeah, what Kaleo said, you'll have to share whole desktop
[15:09] <boiko> oSoMoN: I think touch apps don't show up in hangouts, you can share the whole screen
[15:09] <mzanetti-> oSoMoN, afaik it has troubles with qtquick2
[15:10] <karni> yes we can see it
[15:10] <mzanetti-> yep
[15:10] <mhall119> is the video still playing? my desktop froze :(
[15:10] <mzanetti-> mhall119, yep
[15:11] <James_Mulholland> oSoMoN - We might have lost your video feed? (or maybe it's just us at the office?)
[15:11] <James_Mulholland> It's back
[15:11] <kenvandine> fine here
[15:11] <karni> fine here
[15:11] <Elleo> all good here
[15:12] <mhall119> any questions for oSoMoN, go ahead and ask them in here
[15:12] <renatu> yes
[15:12] <nerochiaro> all good
[15:12] <nerochiaro> was gone for a bit
[15:12] <kyrofa> Yeah I haven't lost it
[15:13] <kyrofa> QUESTION: The framerate of the video isn't great. Are the responsive changes animated in any way?
[15:14] <mhall119> kyrofa: hangouts use a lot of compression, it's likely just that
[15:14] <Kaleo> kyrofa, no animations on these yet
[15:14] <kyrofa> Kaleo, obviously not incredibly important, but your "yet" implies that may be coming? Would be slick indeed
[15:15] <Kaleo> kyrofa, neat possibility, no idea if there will be time to do that soon..
[15:16] <Kaleo> ildorn, will get to your question after the demos
[15:16] <Dragos> bye
[15:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: drag down first, then drag sideways to the folders. will be fixed with next release of SDK
[15:17] <kyrofa> Kaleo, actually wait. For some reason I'm putting this in the same category as a responsive web design, where the web page is obviously meant to be resized during regular usage. However, are these designs simply to work on different form factors (i.e. devices)? In other words, when running in desktop mode (like it's running now) will it still change?
[15:17] <mzanetti-> QUESTION: how touch-friendly is the wide-mode of the browser?
[15:18] <kyrofa> Or is it more meant so that the same code will run on a phone and the desktop?
[15:18] <kyrofa> In which case the transition between modes may not ever been seen
[15:21] <mzanetti-> nice!, thanks! I was mostly concerned about the top-tabs being too small
[15:21] <kyrofa> mzanetti-, good question
[15:22] <mhall119> Kaleo: having trouble with the hangout?
[15:23] <Kaleo> mhall119, with my internet actually
[15:23] <Kaleo> mhall119, also I'm trying a much lower res to have a higher framerate
[15:23] <mhall119> you can turn off your video feed, that sometimes helps
[15:24] <Kaleo> mhall119, yeah, no it's back to normal :)
[15:25] <bregma_> r7b
[15:26] <mhall119> oSoMoN: developer.ubuntu.com is nice and responsive now :)
[15:26] <kyrofa> Slashdot doesn't have a responsive design. You need to go to m.slashdot
[15:34] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, the browser is shaping up very nicely!
[15:34] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, slowly, but surely :)
[15:34] <mhall119> kenvandine: it's my daily driver :)
[15:34] <mhall119> if only gtalk plugin worked, I wouldn't have to use Chrome for UOS
[15:36] <kyrofa> mhall119, yeah I have to use chrome as well, but it's to _watch_ the video. If I'm in the HO I can use firefox, haha
[15:37] <kenvandine> i've been using webbrowser-app to watch all the UOS sessions this week
[15:37] <mhall119> kyrofa: yeah, html5 videos should work, but I think the live stream needs flash
[15:37] <kyrofa> It seems so. Unfortunate. I'll install it after :P
[15:37] <kenvandine> i'm watching the live stream right now with it
[15:37] <kyrofa> uninstall
[15:37] <mhall119> ok, maybe I'm wrong
[15:38] <kyrofa> kenvandine, do you have flash though?
[15:38] <kenvandine> dunno :)
[15:38] <mhall119> no flash on ubuntu webbrowser
[15:38] <kyrofa> Heh
[15:38] <kenvandine> i just installed webbrowser-app from the stable overlay ppa :)
[15:38] <oSoMoN> no flash yet, but Chris is working on enabling it in oxide, and heโs pretty far along
[15:38] <kenvandine> so the same version we have on the phone
[15:38] <kyrofa> oSoMoN, the fewer browsers that support it the faster it will die, I say
[15:38] <mhall119> oSoMoN: really? how is he doing that, using pepperflash or adobe's?
[15:39] <oSoMoN> pepper
[15:39] <mhall119> cool
[15:39] <kenvandine> i'd rather not have flash :)
[15:39] <oSoMoN> yeah, me neither, but itโs still big for a few use cases
[15:41] <karni> QUESTION: if I right click on an item, will it show both "positive" and "negative" actions
[15:42] <karni> by that I mean leading and trailing
[15:42] <oSoMoN> boiko, wanna talk about the work that has been done on phone/messaging apps?
[15:43] <karni> it was called Flashback I believe
[15:43] <mhall119> ah yeah, flashback
[15:43] <boiko> oSoMoN: well, messaging-app is halfway done only, need to use the bottom edge component from Kaleo
[15:43] <karni> boiko: haha, hopefully "from Kaleo" is equivalent "from SDK" ^_^
[15:44] <karni> we've had a bunch of components everybody used in their apps, yet they were not in the SDK for long :)
[15:45] <boiko> karni: yep, it is :)
[15:45] <karni> Kaleo: ah, thank you
[15:48] <mhall119> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/Ubuntu.Components.AdaptivePageLayout/
[15:49] <mhall119> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/Ubuntu.Layouts.ConditionalLayout/
[15:49] <mhall119> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/Ubuntu.Components.Units/
[15:51] <jgdx> thanks
[15:51] <karni> thank you guys
[15:51] <rmescandon> thanks
[15:51] <rmescandon> great session
[15:52] <James_Mulholland> thanks all!
[16:23] <karni> (not question) As a developer, I would prefer to have control of how many action items are collapsed (occasionally, I would like to collapse all, I won't get into reasons here). but I take this will only be possible with upcoming header implementation and some custom code, as this is not recommended behavior.
[16:36] <faenil> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/staging/view/head:/src/Ubuntu/Components/1.3/Page.qml#L84
[16:37] <faenil> karni: ^
[16:37] <karni> Thank you guys, lovely :)
[16:37] * karni high-fives
[16:38] <faenil> o/
[16:38] <karni> Thank you
[16:39] <James_Mulholland> I'll stick around here in channel until 17:00 if anyone else has anything they'd like to ask
[16:40] <michelr> QUESTION : a phone app has her name in header. When using it in desktop, her name is also in window title. Will that duplicate stay in final unity8 ?
[16:41] <michelr> QUESTION : so, do we still have to put app name in header ?
[16:41] <naskoos> QUESTION: How does your approach differs from windows continuum? Do you also use a hub or just an HDMI and OTG?
[16:42] <James_Mulholland> michelr - Duplicates would/should be avoided in those cases, so the title in the header area would not be shown if it is also present in the window title (decorations). The title space could then be used to communicate something else (the subject line of an email, for e.g.) or just contain only actions.
[16:45] <James_Mulholland> naskoos
[16:45] <James_Mulholland> naskoos - Well, contimuum will offer a "tโs a PC-like experience thatโs powered by your phone." Where as Pocket PC will be an actual PC in your pocket that you can use in both ways :-)
[16:45] <James_Mulholland> :)
[16:47] <James_Mulholland> naskoos - so if a device has a big enough screen to use in windowed mode comfortably a user can do so, connecting a small screened device to a large display+KB+Mouse would allow and actual PC experience, not something approaching one
[16:47] <James_Mulholland> *an actual PC experience
[16:49] <naskoos> QUESTION: Will the current ubuntu phone devices (like meizu mx4) support the convergence feature, or better/special hardware is needed?
[16:51] <karni> naskoos: I believe none of hardware released with Ubuntu will support this. It can be run with a Nexus 4, for instance, with an MHL to HDMI connector.
[16:51] <karni> haha I got that wrong
[16:51] <karni> none released support it.
[16:51] <karni> certainly *new* Ubuntu hardware will support it, hopefully soon :)
[16:52] <karni> I'm afraid current MX and BQ devices however, won't :(
[16:52] <James_Mulholland> naskoos - Sorry. Yes I believe Karni is correct
[16:54] <naskoos> QUESTION: When I'll use an external monitor (with keyboard and mouse) would it be possible to use other desktop managers like LXDE or XFCE?
[16:55] <faenil_> oops...
[16:55] <faenil_> it seems my connection dropped
[16:56] <faenil_> naskoos: did you get my reply about continuum?
[16:57] <James_Mulholland> naskoos - I'm afraid I'm not certain. I'll see if I can chase up an answer for you.
[16:57] <James_Mulholland> Thanks for tuning in all!
[16:58] <naskoos> I have received an answer about continuum but not from you!
[17:03] <faenil_> naskoos: currently connect a bluetooth mouse and keyboard is all you need to switch to the windowed Unity8 experience
[17:03] <faenil_> connecting*
[17:03] <faenil_> actually just the mouse is enough
[17:03] <faenil_> additionally, you can connect an external monitor (via SlimPort/MHL, etc..)
[17:04] <faenil_> naskoos: ^
[17:04] <faenil_> naskoos: if you have a Nexus4 or Nexus7, you can already try the convergent experience! :) (BQ E4.5 and Meizu MX4
[17:04] <faenil_> unfortunately don't have MHL/slimport support)
[17:04] <faenil_> there you go :)
[17:05] <naskoos> Thank you faenil_!
[17:17] <faenil_> naskoos: no worries :)
[17:30] <d_ed> mhall119: so to create my session I start a hangouts on air then copy the youtube link into the "edit hangouts details" -> broadcast URL
[17:41] <mhall119> d_ed: yup, that's it
[17:41] <mhall119> ping me if you need any help with it
[17:41] <d_ed> thanks
[18:00] <elopio> Hello.
[18:00] <d_ed> hey all
[18:00] <d_ed> I'll start the Plasma Mobile session in a minute or two, just let everyone get back from lunch
[18:02] <d_ed> are people here?
[18:03] <olaftheviking> yes
[18:03] <elopio> d_ed: yes.
[18:03] <mhall119> d_ed: got it all setup?
[18:04] <d_ed> I thought so...
[18:04] <d_ed> but the webpage says "please stand by"
[18:04] <mhall119> d_ed: you're live now, video is working
[18:04] <elopio> d_ed: I see you.
[18:04] <mhall119> d_ed: there's a delay in the live stream of up to a minute or so
[18:04] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[18:04] <ovidiu-florin> d_ed: yes
[18:04] <ovidiu-florin> I can see you
[18:04] <karni> we can hear you, too :)
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> and hear you
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> again?
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> heeey Marco
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> I hear Daid talking but see Marco talking
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> what's happening?
[18:13] <olaftheviking> notmart__: try turning on some lights in your room, might be less contrasty on the webcam
[18:16] <elopio> the video is crazy in youtube.
[18:17] <notmart__> olaftheviking: i tried before, this way the screen of the phone was *sligtly* more visible
[18:17] <notmart__> even if still meh :)
[18:19] <Mike101> Can vs. Will
[18:20] <Mike101> This is getting more and more ridiculous. Another mobile OS?
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> not exactly
[18:21] <elopio> Mike101: it's good. Their contributions will help many upstreams.
[18:21] <ovidiu-florin> just the Userspace
[18:21] <Mike101> I know, I know.
[18:22] <Mike101> I am just sad that why the linux community just doesnt try to make one thing, and perfect it altogether...
[18:22] <notmart__> video david was talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auuQA0Q8qpM
[18:23] <d_ed> or is going to talk about, depending on lag...
[18:23] <d_ed> :D
[18:23] <ovidiu-florin> the youtube stream is broken, audio and video are not synced
[18:23] <notmart__> right :)
[18:23] <olaftheviking> Mike101: same reason why gtk, qt, e17 exists...
[18:23] <ovidiu-florin> d_ed: who takes care of devices support?
[18:24] <Mike101> olaftheviking: that is?
[18:24] <karni> Mike101: freedom
[18:24] <olaftheviking> Mike101: one thinks the other one is doing it wrong
[18:25] <elopio> or both are right, but different.
[18:25] <Mike101> I know, I want Linux to replace everything else but the thing is that it's not gonna is it? Instead of one thing to replace closed source software, we are just making more and more forks of open source software.
[18:26] <ovidiu-florin> d_ed: what's libhybris?
[18:26] <goddard> Did he say when he thinks this will be usable?
[18:26] <ovidiu-florin> it is usable
[18:26] <ovidiu-florin> by developers
[18:26] <goddard> haha
[18:26] <Mike101> By people?
[18:26] <goddard> yeah
[18:26] <elopio> who's people?
[18:26] <ovidiu-florin> go where?
[18:27] <Mike101> Orfinary people.
[18:27] <elopio> ;)
[18:27] <Mike101> Like my mother.
[18:27] <ovidiu-florin> d_ed: how can we get involved?
[18:28] <notmart__> #plasma, forums.kde.org and [email protected]
[18:29] <Mike101> 12 months sounds quite quick...
[18:29] <Mike101> and Ubuntu Phone's main feature is still not here after how many years?
[18:30] <olaftheviking> which is the main feature?
[18:30] <Mike101> Convergence??
[18:30] <olaftheviking> ah that
[18:30] <Mike101> Yep
[18:30] <Mike101> That thing...
[18:30] * olaftheviking is not ubuntu phone user
[18:30] <Mike101> I know but it takes time to make things like that
[18:31] <Mike101> and KDE mobile can't just be built after 12 months
[18:31] <olaftheviking> but maybe KDE has a better starting position
[18:31] <Mike101> It's way to steep a margin.
[18:31] <olaftheviking> you know, cause there is a working system already
[18:31] <olaftheviking> unlike unity8
[18:32] <olaftheviking> I mean, unity8 is still not out yet, is it?
[18:32] <Mike101> No, but they have a working system.
[18:32] <olaftheviking> so they have to do lots of from scratch
[18:32] <Mike101> Like KDE Mobile.
[18:32] <Mike101> To be honest, I prefer KDE Mobile but
[18:32] <d_ed> on the other hand, that gives you a clean base with no legacy history. It's a trade-of
[18:33] <olaftheviking> true words
[18:33] <Mike101> The ideas behind multi-platform app support
[18:33] <karni> olaftheviking: Ubuntu phones on the market run Unity 8. Yes, it's out.
[18:33] <olaftheviking> karni: but not on desktop
[18:33] <Mike101> But I just disafree with the margin
[18:33] <olaftheviking> karni: Mike101 asked about convergence and how can KDE deliver in 12 months if ubuntu still hasn't
[18:33] <olaftheviking> ...the convergence, that is
[18:33] <Mike101> No
[18:33] <Mike101> Not the convergence
[18:33] <Mike101> The platform
[18:34] <olaftheviking> right
[18:34] <olaftheviking> tho convergence is part of the platform
[18:34] <Mike101> Wait
[18:34] <elopio> I think what you are doing with plasma is great. Thanks for the presentation d_ed.
[18:34] <d_ed> thanks
[18:34] <karni> olaftheviking: I see
[18:34] <Mike101> I just read the part about there being a working model?
[18:34] <karni> d_ed: well done
[18:34] <olaftheviking> Mike101: yes
[18:34] <notmart__> for us the shell was pretty much years of preparation, it was seen mostly on the desktop but the design was in this direction from the start
[18:35] <Mike101> Riight
[18:35] <Mike101> I thought you were just starting now ;)
[18:35] <notmart__> but yeah, for us the hardest problem was mostly on the platform and hardware integration bits, that were solved by ubuntu
[18:35] <Mike101> Approx 12 months to make everything relatively okay?
[18:35] <d_ed> it depends on so many factors that it's not really worth saying
[18:35] <Mike101> Who's notmart_
[18:36] <olaftheviking> IF enough people work on it, then maybe
[18:36] <d_ed> notmart__ is marco
[18:36] <d_ed> the other guy in the video
[18:36] <Mike101> Marco?
[18:36] <Mike101> Riight
[18:36] <notmart__> me and d_ed mantain plasma, both on the desktop and on the phone
[18:36] <notmart__> together other people
[18:36] <Mike101> Well, have you considered porting it for devices after you are done?
[18:37] <Mike101> Just out of curiousity.
[18:37] <d_ed> we all got Nexus 5's for consistency
[18:37] <d_ed> and someone has already put in on a 1+
[18:37] <olaftheviking> and there are couple other models where it works
[18:37] <d_ed> someone from the community
[18:37] <notmart__> but in principle it should work on any device where ubuntu phone is working
[18:37] <d_ed> which is what we want to build and grow, so who knows.
[18:38] <Mike101> I know a few people who work for Xiaomi, perhaps I can ask them to port once this is built?
[18:38] <Mike101> Well, I am one of them but
[18:38] <olaftheviking> you could get the devs some phones for testing then
[18:38] <d_ed> sure, lets exchange email addresses
[18:38] <olaftheviking> *wink wink*
[18:39] <Mike101> Can you start a separate chat, invite me and then come back here? I don't think it's a good idea to share it in the wild.
[18:41] <Mike101> Kay, cheers.
[18:44] <notmart__> yeah, via email sounds better
[18:46] <Mike101> Switched emails with d_ed.
[18:46] <notmart__> cool
[18:48] <Mike101> Assuming there is somewhere we can work with that, I will contact back with who you can contact :)
[18:49] <mhall119> d_ed: I'm writing a summary of sessions from the convergence track, can you give me a couple bullet points from what you convered in your session I can use to describe it?
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[13:59] <dpm> hey all
[13:59] <dpm> welcome to the last day of the summit :)
[14:00] <dpm> starting the first session in 1-2 minutes
[14:08] <dpm> jose, did you want to discuss google code-in in the roundtable?
[14:09] <jose> dpm: yes, i'm joining in a few
[14:10] <dpm> jose, ok, let me know when you're all set. Right now everyone else is in other sessions, so I'll start as soon as someone joins the hangout
[14:11] <dpm> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-community-roundtable
[14:12] <dpm> for those who want to join in: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdNu19LKKt7EBEMrNrrSX3aV3LGmLYVsdsoMckdZFzznrgCjQ
[14:58] <balloons> Howdy
[14:58] <elopio> hello.
[15:04] * alesage wishes he had a lower-third card
[15:04] <balloons> hello, we're starting in a moment
[15:09] <ahayzen> o/
[15:10] <dobey> all i see is a black rectangle :-/
[15:10] <balloons> dobey, eh?
[15:11] <balloons> you don't see his presentation?
[15:11] <dobey> no, on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22588/user-level-testing-for-ubuntu-phone/ i see only a solid black rectangle
[15:11] <balloons> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFxAw7O85Gk
[15:11] <ahayzen> i see it
[15:11] <balloons> refresh the page perhaps
[15:12] <dobey> https://www.youtube.com/lFxAw7O85Gk says 404
[15:12] <dobey> i've refreshed it like 20 times
[15:13] <ahayzen> both work for me :-/
[15:13] <alesage> dobey success?
[15:14] <dobey> hmm, had to restart firefox and now youtube is showing the video :-/
[15:14] <alesage> dobey success!
[15:14] <dobey> the web sure ain't what it used to be
[15:16] <balloons> The old gray mare, she ain't what she used to be,
[15:16] * alesage doesn't take that personally
[15:20] <balloons> ask away if you have questions
[15:27] <ahayzen> we all know about mocking mediascanner2, right balloons? :') lol
[15:27] <balloons> :p
[15:35] <ahayzen> brendand, haha that for us in the music-app trying to mock the database
[15:38] <ahayzen> balloons, is there a list of TODO's of just look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-tests ?
[15:38] <balloons> ahayzen, I'm sort of asking the same thing. I think it could be fun to tackle one of the new areas
[15:38] <dobey> things that provide dbus interfaces, should be providing dbusmock templates that can be used to test things
[15:38] <ahayzen> balloons, yeah if there was a list, like we have with the needs-autopilot-test, then it would be easier for people like me to find and attempt to contribute
[15:43] <balloons> ahayzen, wait for it :p
[15:43] <balloons> perhaps dobey is volunteering as well
[15:43] * ahayzen waits patiently
[15:43] <dobey> no
[15:43] <dobey> i volunteer for nothing
[15:43] <alesage> dobey, maybe?
[15:43] <ahayzen> hehe inbetween everything else :-)
[15:44] <ahayzen> yeah we are missing a few :-) along with weather
[15:45] <dobey> hard enough making the stuff i have to maintain, work :)
[15:45] <ahayzen> hah :-)
[15:49] <alesage> brendand, update the etherpad ;)
[15:49] <ahayzen> thanks guys :-)
[15:49] <elopio> thanks!
[15:50] <dobey> at least someone is using an ubuntu phone :)
[15:50] <balloons> bah, brendand, we didn't assign anything to elopio!
[15:50] * elopio runs
[15:50] <balloons> I've gone all UOS now without doing it
[15:50] <balloons> I suppose I'll exclude him, since he did a session
[15:50] <brendand> balloons, elopio was hiding, shame on him
[15:50] <balloons> so did dobey actually.. So I guess the debts are paid
[15:52] <jibel> great stuff! thanks brendand, balloons and all.
[15:52] * balloons has some 'volunteers' in mind to try writing some of these tests
[15:57] <balloons> this is a good session to be in the hangout for :-)
[15:57] <balloons> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdVv1skwyyfr7QPHAg3Y7g_1Fu59XAPbHFZDRnpcXD0ycJUzg?hl=en&authuser=1
[16:05] <dpm> setting the session up, we'll be online in a minute
[16:06] <dpm> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-future-plans-for-uos
[16:07] <ahayzen> \o/
[16:10] <popey2> wheee
[16:10] <willcooke> dodgy
[16:10] <popey2> wat
[16:11] <willcooke> imposter
[16:12] <popey2> I know things
[16:12] <popey2> Test me.
[16:12] <ahayzen> QUESTION: The new UOS sessions work really well for short term planning, how would you feel about face-2-face (aka old style UDS) for LTS/long term planning? If that session was combined at a UbuCon or something this could work quite well, even if it was limited to one area such as just AppDevs.
[16:17] <willcooke> mhall119, +1
[16:17] <balloons> the popey clones are out again!
[16:17] <ahayzen> haha
[16:17] * ahayzen waits for evilpopey
[16:18] <mhall119> just realized that popey's current pose is almost identical to his profile picture pose
[16:18] <balloons> ahayzen, so to clarify, you think ubucons could fill the gap for long-term lts to lts planning, while ubuntuonair stuff can fit the gap for short-term stuff
[16:18] <balloons> mhall119, it's a cardboard cutout
[16:18] <popey2> Lies
[16:19] <ahayzen> balloons, yeah use face-2-face at Ubu{Con,Summit} for planning long term, general direction... and then UOS/UbuntuOnAir for short term/gap stuff
[16:19] <balloons> ahayzen, I'm in agreemnt
[16:22] <ahayzen> QUESTION: Do the design clinics still exist?
[16:22] <ahayzen> and how successful were they?
[16:22] <aquarius> also, popey, there's nothing stopping people putting together a "show and tell day", perhaps. Present it like a conference: it's a day when a bunch of people show things off. It doesn't have to be colocated/cotimed with discussion sessions about the future coding of unity 8 or whatever?
[16:23] <balloons> aquarius, I agree. We can still have game developer day with 3 back to back sessions if we wish
[16:23] <ahayzen> even if it was something small to show and tell, eg "hey this is what convergence looks like now", could this not be tagged onto the start/end of the ubuntuonair weekly sessions ?
[16:23] <aquarius> I take the point about how ten videos all in one day means that each gets less attention because it's overwhelming, though
[16:23] <balloons> there's a very real information overload during UOS imho
[16:24] <aquarius> but equally it's easier to notice that there *is* stuff to look at if there's a bit of a marketing push around Cool Ubuntu Stuff Day, rather than a video just appearing on some random Tuesday
[16:25] <ahayzen> definitely the information overload is a problem, and the biggest problem with UOS (as was probably the same with UDS) is that i currently want to be in 4 rooms :-/
[16:25] <aquarius> it was the same at UDS :)
[16:25] <dpm> lol
[16:26] <ahayzen> :-)
[16:26] <balloons> yes.. for instance this hour has 3 sessions I'd like to be in
[16:26] <aquarius> it's not *wholly* nonsense. ;-)
[16:27] <mhall119> that's high praise from aquarius
[16:28] <aquarius> It feels like there are a few different "goals": 1. show and tell, demoing new stuff that's happening with Ubuntu; 2. get together to plan out the next six months of work, get work items, etc; 3. expose actual engineers and decision makers to the audience so questions can be asked and answered. And UOS is being all three of those... but they're all quite separate, I think
[16:29] <aquarius> nhaines, honestly, I disagree with the "planning happens in the open" thing. It doesn't; it hasn't for years, not really.
[16:29] <balloons> aquarius, I see it as 2 things. 1) Show off stuff 2) Plan and communicate. UOS attempts to do both, but imho, we should be doing both those things all the time
[16:30] <aquarius> (I'm not complaining about that. But pretending that decisions are made in the open and the community can have influence over those decisions is sophistry, I think.)
[16:30] <balloons> I suppose the third of taking question sis valid
[16:30] <aquarius> Ah. popey said it better than I could :)
[16:30] <popey> ta
[16:30] <popey> wish my stupid connection stayed up so i can hear replies!
[16:30] <aquarius> I agree with how you put it entirely
[16:34] <ahayzen> ... we need an UbuntuTV Channel ...
[16:34] <aquarius> mhall119, I admire your desire for openness, but there's a chilling effect there. It means you can't discuss in the community team hangout "hey, when are we revealing the new partnership with BigPhoneCo"?
[16:35] <aquarius> ha! again popey says what I was thinking. I'll stop talking :-)
[16:35] <ahayzen> haha
[16:35] <balloons> while he stays connected
[16:35] <mhall119> aquarius: true, but I'm actually okay with making private discussions a little more painful for us, because then we'll avoid it whenever possible
[16:36] <aquarius> we seem to have moved away from the future of UOS here a bit? "Canonical team meetings should be on youtube" is a laudable goal, but that's not really the point here, is it?
[16:36] <willcooke> Something I'm going to try with U7 work in 16.04 is to have our sprint review meetings as HOA. So every n weeks there will be a short HOA showing what bugs were fixed and showing a demo of them. Other agile teams might be able to do the same
[16:36] <willcooke> We're doing them in HO's anyway, so why not make it more public
[16:36] <aquarius> fair enough
[16:36] <mhall119> ^^ this
[16:37] <aquarius> that's not a bad idea
[16:37] <aquarius> be itneresting to see who watches
[16:37] <willcooke> right, but it kinda doesn't matter. It's zero additional cost for us
[16:37] <aquarius> I think the community team and the desktop team can be more public than, say, those dealing with OEMs or new designs for bits of Unity or wahtever
[16:37] <willcooke> that's true
[16:38] <aquarius> and it's the latter one that's interesting
[16:38] <willcooke> mhall119, not once a week, maybe once a month
[16:38] <aquarius> I think everyone would accept that commercial partner discussions are not going to be public
[16:38] <mhall119> willcooke: still better than every 6 months :)
[16:38] <willcooke> :)
[16:38] <willcooke> \o/
[16:38] <popey> :)
[16:39] <popey> /nick devils_advocate
[16:39] <aquarius> but "what's coming up in new unity designs" is kept secret and that's what makes people sad, perhaps? (Whereas "what's coming up in new Gnome" is already public.)
[16:39] <gQuigs> status updates would be very useful to help people contribute better
[16:39] <mhall119> aquarius: right, and I'm realistic in that we won't fix that just by telling people to post all designs in public as soon as they're made
[16:40] <mhall119> but when a new SDK component is being implemented based on already approved designs, that can be discussed publicly
[16:41] <ahayzen> mhall119, ... the AdaptivePageLayout was announced very early via a blog post remember ...
[16:41] <mhall119> ahayzen: right, and people are still surprised to learn about it at UOS sessions this week
[16:41] <ahayzen> yup, and there are still bugs and WIP items for the component itself
[16:43] <ahayzen> presentations or Q&As seems to be what it has been
[16:45] <aquarius> I wonder if one answer is just... a youtube playlist of "cool things in Ubuntu". That gets new presentations and demos added to it, and then people can follow it?
[16:46] <mhall119> aquarius: you mean http://youtube.com/ubuntuonair :)
[16:47] <aquarius> yeah, maybe, although that has a bunch of meetings and so on too
[16:58] <balloons_clone> boop
[17:04] <dpm> thanks everyone on IRC!
[17:08] <dpm> nhaines, are you planning to be around for the meetup.com session?
[17:08] <nhaines> dpm: yup! And in fact I just got my lower third working in Chrome, not Firefox, so that'll be all set too.
[17:08] <nhaines> Just in time for uos-1605! :P
[17:09] <dpm> nice one, just don't mention the word "browsers" to mhall119 :-)
[17:09] <nhaines> haha
[17:52] <dpm> Ok, ready for the next session :)
[17:52] <dpm> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1511-meetupcom-for-loco-teams
[17:53] <dpm> For anyone wanting to join live in the discussion: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdDuJqodsduC8VRHJv8QvudATSJgwmkBDxYo9mtIL4x8tN3vQ
[17:57] <wxl> waiting :)
[18:04] <dpm> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams/MeetupProposal
[18:04] <mhall119> I'm listening, but helping with another session atm
[18:07] <mhall119> http://www.meetup.com/pro/ubuntu/
[18:07] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[18:07] <mhall119> dpm: we lost you
[18:11] <wxl> omg finally got my bluetooth headset to work argh
[18:11] <wxl> what did i miss?
[18:11] <sergiusens> QUESTION now that I see meetup.com support I am interested in starting a LoCo for my province, how do I get started?
[18:12] <wxl> sergiusens: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto
[18:12] <sergiusens> wxl, do I get meetup.com support ootb there?
[18:12] <wxl> sergiusens: feel free to contact [email protected] if you have further questions
[18:12] <wxl> sergiusens: this whole discussion is about making it standard fare, but at present it is not integrated
[18:13] <mhall119> sergiusens: no, you need to be an established team to get a free meetup group
[18:13] <wxl> sergiusens: as a member of the loco council, my goal would be to make sure that everyone has access to the same tools
[18:13] <wxl> mhall119: only for verified teams, correct?
[18:13] <mhall119> wxl: I think that's the plan, at least to start with
[18:13] <sergiusens> sounds good
[18:14] <wxl> sergiusens: so what he's saying is that you'd need to do the things to get your loco established and verified before you'd have access to meetup, just as that's what allows you to access community donations funds
[18:14] <sergiusens> but I'd only get people to come to any event if I start something on meetup.com so if I start one, can it later migrate to a LoCo supported meetup group?
[18:14] <sergiusens> if I become a verified group?
[18:14] <mhall119> sergiusens: I believe it can, yes
[18:15] <wxl> sergiusens: i'm not sure that meetup necessarily allows for that, but you can ask your membership to move over at the very least
[18:15] <mhall119> we haven't been able to test that theory yet though
[18:16] <wxl> long story short, there's work that needs to be done before you can access the meetup option, sergiusens, so i'd get started on it :) where are you from?
[18:17] <sergiusens> wxl, Argentina; I had intentions of reviving the argentinian one but got no reply, I also wanted to start a Cordoba specific LoCo
[18:18] <wxl> sergiusens: have you tried to contact the loco-council? we can help you revive the argentenian one. usually we don't have smaller divisions than countries, at least outside the us.
[18:19] <sergiusens> wxl, sure, I'll give it one more try
[18:20] <wxl> sergiusens: i would suggest you write [email protected] and explain the situation. we will attempt to contact the current contacts. if we get no response, we will work towards establishing you as the main contact.
[18:21] <wxl> QUESTION: is *Canonical* paying for the meetup.com fees or is that coming out of the community donations? dpm just said Canonical, fwiw.
[18:21] <dpm> wxl, Canonical
[18:22] <wxl> QUESTION: will Canonical IT be responsible for administation or will this be a responsibility of the LoCo Council, as, for example, the LoCo Portal more or less is?
[18:23] <mhall119> wxl: there's nothing to administer from an IS perspective
[18:23] <sergiusens> wxl, ack
[18:23] <wxl> mhall119: what about creating the new accounts and giving credentials to locos?
[18:24] <mhall119> wxl: that would be the LC and the us on the community team
[18:24] <wxl> ok great
[18:24] <wxl> so we need instructions :)
[18:24] <wxl> mhall119: don't forget with cities there'
[18:24] <wxl> s also the issue of whole countriesโฆ
[18:24] <wxl> india comes to mind immediately.
[18:25] <mhall119> wxl: right, that's something we need to try out before we know if it works or not
[18:25] * wxl nods
[18:32] <wxl> nhaines: Ubuntu Cascadia Team! XD
[18:34] <nhaines> wxl: All glory to Cascadia! \o/-
[18:35] <wxl> XD
[18:37] <wxl> dpm: argentina is not verified http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ar/
[18:37] <mhall119> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute to contribute to the fund
[18:40] <sergiusens> I'll talk to beuno about having some admin capabilities as he now lives in Uruguay :-)
[18:40] <sergiusens> but I see I can register events there myself
[18:41] <wxl> mhall119: you can count oregon in!
[18:41] <wxl> (i.e. i'd be happy to be the guinea pig for the process)
[18:41] <sergiusens> wxl, how did you check that? Do verified teams have a 'verified' badge? Would be nice to have an 'unverified' badge for the ones that aren't
[18:42] <wxl> sergiusens: they show up with a colored ubuntu logo on the loco portal. the unverified ones are grey. you can also check the membership of the verified teams group on launchpad https://launchpad.net/~locoteams-verified/+members
[18:42] <mhall119> sergiusens: you get a colored icon on loco.ubuntu.com/teams/
[18:43] <wxl> +1 dpm ! the meetup could be the impetus to becoming verified
[18:43] <dpm> yeah
[18:43] <wxl> it's hard work herding cats
[18:43] <sergiusens> I think I'd get more traction with meetup than with locos as it is easier to spread the word
[18:44] <sergiusens> I don't mind managing my own meetup group if there is a way to integrate
[18:44] <sergiusens> with the loco portal
[18:46] <wxl> sergiusens: whatever you do, please report to the loco-council about how things go trying to contact beuno and we'll work towards getting you a meetup group somehow or another.
[18:46] <wxl> or at least we'll look into it
[18:54] <wxl> thanks all
[18:55] <nhaines> We were totally done on time there.
[18:56] <wxl> rare :)
[18:56] <dpm> thanks everyone!
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[14:20] <chronologic> meetingology: hi
[14:20] <meetingology> chronologic: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
[14:20] <chronologic> Mikaela: hi
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-touch
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[05:23] <br01> Hello there, I just wanna ask if any one tried ubuntu-touch on asus memo pad 7 ? :-)
[07:31] <mardy> dobey: the embedded content is coming from https://launchpad.net/signon-ui
[07:50] <abeato> hey, just saw my phone (latest OTA, bq e4.5) kept the screen on after cancelling an alarm, is it a known bug? I have taken logs, and I can get more things if needed
[09:04] <jibel> abeato, there is bug 1502145 , it is a problem with the webbrowser, but there is also a task for unity-system-compositor, it might be related.
[09:05] <abeato> jibel, I'll add a comment, thanks
[09:05] <jibel> I cannot find any report for the notification specifically
[11:15] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Gunpowder Day, and happy Men Make Dinner Day (totally unrelated)! ๐
[11:54] <daker> Hi can someone help with this, i am flashing rc-proposed v280 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YsSTs01X/20151105_114856.jpg
[11:58] <daker> ogra_: any idea please ?
[11:58] <jibel> daker, IIRC you just need to flash again, eventually it'll work
[11:58] <daker> jibel: ok i'll try again
[12:27] <daker> now it still hang at the google logo :(
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> daker: on wich device?
[12:29] <daker> nexus 4
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> daker: did you follow the official wiki to install?
[12:29] <daker> yes
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> daker: did the phone have new android version?
[12:30] <daker> lotuspsychje: new android ? android 5.1 if i am not wrong
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> daker: some devices might need downgrade to lower android, before installing ubuntu touch
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> daker: maybe try a 4.4 android downgrade first?
[12:31] <daker> lotuspsychje: ok i'll try that
[13:07] <daker> lotuspsychje: yeah i remember now that it doesn't work if you had Android 5.x
[13:08] <daker> it works now
[14:03] <dobey> mardy: signon-ui is qt. i'm asking about the *gtk+* ui
[14:04] <dobey> which does not embed the qml plug-ins
[14:23] <mardy> dobey: it's unity-control-center-signon, but for the authentication step it's actually embedding (via X-EMBED) the signon-ui
[14:24] <dobey> mardy: so it's embedding the oxide qt stuff and not webkit-gtk? or what?
[14:25] <mardy> dobey: correct; and signon-ui can work both with oxide and QtWebkit 1
[14:26] <dobey> mardy: so is it possible to embed the u1-credentials qml UI in the gtk+ interface, and not require /usr/lib/libaccount-plugin-1.0/providers/libubuntuone.so to exist?
[14:28] <mardy> dobey: not trivially, but with some work it might be possible
[14:28] <mardy> dobey: indeed, it would be nice if we could reuse the same QML plugins for unity7
[14:29] <dobey> mardy: well, we need to get u1-credentials into main at least. how hard would it be to make that work for xenial?
[14:29] <dobey> i want to get ubuntu-sso-client out of xenial
[14:30] <mardy> dobey: give me a few minutes to investigate the thing, I haven't been touiching signon-ui and the gtk UI for quite some time
[14:30] <dobey> mardy: sure
[14:41] <mardy> dobey: no, I'm afraid it's not as simple: I forgot that the protocol which the QML OA uses to talk to the plugins is based on QDataStream
[14:42] <dobey> oh
[14:42] <mardy> dobey: so you would have to create a Gtk-based widget which embeds the QML account plugin, but also talks to it via that protocol
[14:42] <dobey> :(
[14:43] <dobey> mardy: what would be the easiest solution to get an account plugin for u1 in the gtk+ UI?
[14:45] <mardy> dobey: well, I guess this might not help, but let me say that writing the plugin would be trivial if U1 spoke OAuth 1.0 or 2.0 :-)
[14:45] <dobey> mardy: obviously. and you are welcome to convince beuno that we should do that. i would be very happy if we could do that. but alas
[14:47] <mardy> dobey: if as I presume this change is not realistic, then I don't know what client libs U1 offer, so I'm not sure. Do you have client API for C apps?
[14:47] <dobey> mardy: no, just the qt lib
[14:48] <beuno> SSO does speak oauth 1.0?
[14:48] <beuno> not 2.0
[14:48] <dobey> beuno: no. we use oauth 1.0 style tokens, but we do not have a complete oauth 1.0 interface
[14:49] <dobey> we used to, a very long time ago, but we got rid of it, and use a REST API now
[14:50] <mardy> beuno: but IIRC it was the pre-standard 1.0, right? It's not the same as RFC 5849, is it?
[14:50] <dobey> mardy: everything after token acquisition is standard 1.0a oauth. the issue though, is token acquisition
[14:51] <dobey> and we do not have oauth 1.0a token acquisition
[14:51] <mardy> dobey: ok, then let me have another look...
[14:54] <mardy> dobey: it's made complicated by the fact that the plugin object is created by the unity-control-center-signon, which passes it to the plugin; and there's no easy way of converting this into something usable by Qt
[14:55] <dobey> :-/
[14:56] <mhall119> Kaleo: can you join #ubuntu-uos-convergence?
[14:56] <mardy> dobey: I honestly cannot find any simpler solution than writing a small C-wrapper around the U1 library...
[14:57] <Kaleo> mhall119, cheers
[14:57] <dobey> mardy: well, the problem is that it's not a small wrapper, because have to provide all the UI
[14:57] <Kaleo> mhall119, I'm alone in it though
[14:59] <mhall119> Kaleo: alone in #ubuntu-uos-convergence ?
[14:59] <mhall119> Kaleo: on Freenode?
[14:59] <Kaleo> mhall119, yes
[14:59] <Kaleo> mhall119, oh no
[14:59] <Kaleo> mhall119, trailing ?
[14:59] <Kaleo> mhall119, sorry
[15:09] <mardy> dobey: OK, it seems that the account creation code is not checking that the created account is the same that was prepared by the Gtk+ code
[15:10] <mardy> dobey: so it should be possible to write a Gtk+ account plugin which executes a Qt process and embeds its UI
[15:10] <mardy> dobey: but again, it not trivial
[15:11] <dobey> mardy: well, there is some bits in the qml that uses the account created by the online-accounts ui or whatever
[15:11] <mardy> dobey: yes, that's fine, the Qt process that loads the plugin can create that
[15:12] <jgdx> seb128, hey, can I use the Settings qml module in System Settings for storing stuff, or should I use the gsettings schema?
[15:13] <dobey> hmm
[15:13] <seb128> jgdx, I guess you can use the Settings api if you want, but why not gsettings? what do you want to store?
[15:14] <jgdx> seb128, I want to store a summary of the call forwarding settings (All, Off, Some). I guess the argument for gsettings is that it's more robust.
[15:15] <jgdx> seb128, do you know if gsettings has a 'session' scope? Meaning if you reboot or log off, the settings is reset? I want a setting that is nuked on reboot.
[15:15] <seb128> it's more robust and it's maintained by us, also it makes us use one system
[15:15] <jgdx> right
[15:15] <seb128> no, it doesn't
[15:22] <hasselmm> hi, seems my google skills and my patience fail me, but how would i install qtdeclarative5-private-dev to chroot:click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf ?
[15:23] <hasselmm> a plain "sudo schroot -c chroot:click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf -- dpkg-query -l qtdeclarative5-private-dev" doesn't seem persistent
[15:24] <hasselmm> so apparently i have much to learn about this click chroot system :-) but for now i'd just impress my friends by quickly running our qt app on my ubuntu phone :D
[15:24] <dobey> hasselmm: #ubuntu-app-devel is the channel for app development questions
[15:24] <hasselmm> ok :-)
[15:25] <dobey> hasselmm: packages not installed in the click chroot are not part of the SDK, and you likely need to ship such libraries within your app's package
[15:25] <hasselmm> dobey: yeah, it's just for a quick test. will have to figure out later how to deal with our private api usage :D
[15:27] <dobey> hasselmm: well, clicking "maintain" in the qtcreator settings for the chroot, and then apt-get install stuff, is how you install other things :)
[15:28] <hasselmm> dobey: let's see :-)
[15:30] <hasselmm> ok, directly from UI this fails with an ENOTFOUND, but running the command manually seems to work.
[15:30] <hasselmm> dobey: thank you
[15:30] <hasselmm> will figure out the error later
[16:16] <jgdx> abeato, hey, around?
[16:19] <jgdx> abeato, are responses (like call forwarding settings) from the carrier cached somewhere? Because the list-modems completion time varies greatly.
[16:30] <hasselmm> how can i figure out why my phone doesn't pickup 3g for internet?
[16:32] <jgdx> hasselmm, how do you know that it doesn't?
[16:33] <hasselmm> jgdx: the web browser won't resolve host names
[16:33] <hasselmm> also i don't see any indication that the phone even tries
[16:33] <jgdx> hasselmm, i.e. the connectivity icon is an empty wi-fi icon
[16:34] <jgdx> hasselmm, ensure that System Settings -> Cellular -> Mobile data is ON
[16:35] <hasselmm> jgdx: oh, interesting.... it now finally switched to a (H) icon...
[16:35] <hasselmm> jgdx: sorry for being confuse(d)
[16:35] <jgdx> np.. H is 3g-ish.
[16:35] <jgdx> dobey, ^ :p
[16:35] <hasselmm> HSPA i asume
[16:36] <hasselmm> jgdx: before the wifi symbol was empty
[16:36] <hasselmm> jgdx: it just joined the network while i've asked
[16:36] <hasselmm> (after joining this noon, and a few minutes before)
[16:36] <hasselmm> but yes, "(H)" is very uncommon, compared to 3G
[16:37] <hasselmm> but can deal with that
[16:37] <dobey> jgdx: eh?
[16:37] <jgdx> hasselmm, i don't know why that happened, but if it happens again, would you please file a bug?
[16:37] <hasselmm> jgdx: yup
[16:37] <jgdx> dobey, I no longer say anything for sure about the H icon
[16:37] <jgdx> because everytime I do, dobey proves me wrong
[16:38] <hasselmm> :-)
[16:38] <dobey> heh
[16:38] <dobey> well my phone has [4G] icon right now
[16:38] <hasselmm> jgdx, dobey: anyway. seems i'll be happy with this phone
[16:38] <jgdx> hasselmm, good show
[16:39] <hasselmm> awesome stuff, good stuff, mediocre stuff. the few strange minor bugs here and there (it wouldn't be an ubuntu os if they wouldn't)
[16:39] <hasselmm> but much more polished than i expected :-)
[16:41] <hasselmm> i like it. seems i picked the right phone for me,
[16:41] <hasselmm> .
[16:43] <abeato> jgdx, yes, iirc, they are cached
[16:43] <abeato> jgdx, so the first time you use list-modems it takes considerably longer
[16:43] <abeato> for instance
[16:44] <jgdx> abeato, on the file system?
[16:44] <abeato> jgdx, no, just in memory probably
[16:44] <jgdx> abeato, hm, okay. Thanks
[16:45] <abeato> jgdx, btw, we will probably need to add the authentication protocol to the APN settings, see bug #1504992
[16:46] <jgdx> abeato, ack
[16:47] <jgdx> abeato, it's on our backlog now.
[16:48] <abeato> jgdx, awesome, thanks
[16:54] <slvn_> hello, I have a question about ubuntu touch. I used to be able to flash it on my Nexus10. But it does not seem to work anymore .. is it still updated for nexus 10 ?
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/11/05/scope-roulette/
[20:59] <OerHeks> prices
[20:59] <OerHeks> njummie
[21:00] <dobey> prices?
[21:01] <OerHeks> see lotus spam
[21:01] <OerHeks> :-D
[21:02] <OerHeks> prize draw*
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"lotuspsychje",
"mardy",
"mhall119",
"seb128",
"slvn_"
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-mir
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[11:45] <greyback> alan_g: hey, is there a way to get the current SurfaceSpecification from a mir::shell::Surface?
[11:48] <alan_g> greyback: not as phrased. But in the new Window Management paradigm the window management policy can call tools->info_for(surface) to get a superset of that information.
[11:48] <greyback> alan_g: ok
[11:48] <alan_g> But we've not landed that in qtmir yet
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.013503
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"channel": "#ubuntu-mir"
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:23] <HolyKnight> ํธ์ํ: ๋๋ฌด ์์ธํ ํ์์ ์ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋ฐฅ๋จน๊ธฐ. http://pic.twitter.com/CKBCBBXgAQ
[00:39] <autowiz_> ๋ญ ์ ๋ ๊ฒ๋ผ๋ ํํ์ธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ ๋ง์ด์ง๋ฉด ์ข์๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ๋ค๋ ์๊ฐ์ ํ๋๊ฑด ๋๋ฌดํ ์๊ฐ์ผ๊น์ ใ
ใ
[00:40] <Work^Seony> ์ ๋ ํํ์ธ๊ตฌ ์ฆ๊ฐ๋ณด๋ค๋, ์ ๊ฑธ ์
์ฉํ๋ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ด ๋ถ๋ช
์๊ธด๋ค๋ผ๋ ์ ์ ๋ ๊ฑฑ์ ์ด ๋๋ค์..
[00:41] <Work^Seony> ๊ฐ๋ฉ์ด๋ ์ธ๊ตญ์์ ๊ณต์ง ์ฐพ๊ณ ์ง์ ๋ถ๋ฆฌ๋ ํ๊ตญ์ธ ๊ด๊ด๊ฐ ๋ง์๋ฐ,
[00:41] <Work^Seony> ์ ๋ฐ ๊ฒ๋ค์ ์ธํฐ๋ท์์ ๋ ๋ถ์ถ๊ธด๋ค๊ณ ์๊ฐํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์...
[00:44] <autowiz_> ํ๊ตญ์ฌ๋๋ค ์ ๋ง ์๊ฐ๊ฐ์กฐ๊ฐ ํ์ํ์ฌ๋ ๋ง์์ ใ
ใ
[00:45] <Work^Seony> costco ๊ฐ๋ณด์
จ์ผ๋ฉด ์์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์์ ํซ๋๊ทธ๋ฅผ ํ์์์
[00:45] <Work^Seony> ๊ทธ ํซ๋๊ทธ์ ๋ฃ์ด๋จน๋ ์์ค๋ ์ํ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑธ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์์ผ๋ก ์์์ ๋ง์๊ป ๋จน์ ์ ์๊ฒ๋ ๋ฐ๊นฅ์ ๋น์น๋์ด์๋๋ฐ,
[00:45] <Work^Seony> ํ๊ตญ์์๋ ์์ ํต์ ๋ค๊ณ ์์ ๋ง ํผ๊ฐ๋ค๋ค์ ใ
ใ
[00:46] <Work^Seony> ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์ํ๋ ์ง์์ ๋ฐ๋ก ๋ ์ ๋๋ผ๋...
[00:46] <autowiz_> ํต์ผ๋ก ํผ๊ฐ๋ค๋๊ฒ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์ ๋จน์๋ ค๊ณ ํผ๊ฐ๋๊ฒ ์๋๋ผ ์ง์ ๊ฐ์ ธ๊ฐ๋ ค๋๊ฑฐ๊ฒ ์ง์?
[00:47] <Work^Seony> ๋ค ์ง์ ๊ฐ์ ธ๊ฐ๋ ค๊ณ ํผ๊ฐ๋๊ฑฐ์ฃ
[00:47] <Work^Seony> ํนํ๋ ์ด ๋๋ค์์๋ ํจ์คํธํธ๋์ ๊ฐ๋ฉด ์ ๋งํ ํ์ฐ์๋ฃ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ ์ง์ ๋ฆฌํํ ์ ์๊ฒ๋ ๊ธฐ๊ณ๊ฐ ์นด์ดํฐ ๋ฐ๊นฅ์ผ๋ก ๋์์๊ฑฐ๋ ์
[00:48] <Work^Seony> ๋ญ ๊ณต์ง๋ก ํ๋จน๋ ์ฌ๋๋ ์๊ธดํ๊ฒ ์ฐ๋ง, ๋๋ถ๋ถ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ฌ๋๋ค์ ํ๋ฆฌ์ค๋ค์ด๊ณ
[00:48] <Work^Seony> ํ๋ฆฌ์ค๋ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊ฑด ๊ฑ ์๊ณ ๋ ๋ ๊ฐ์์ฃผ๋ ํธ์ด์์
[00:48] <Work^Seony> ๋ญ๋๊น, "๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ๋ชํผ์ด๋ ํ๋ค๊ณ ํ์ณ๋จน๋" ์ด๋ฐ ์ธ์์ด์ฃ ...
[00:49] <Work^Seony> ๊ทผ๋ฐ ํ๊ตญ์์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ํ๋ค๊ฐ, ์์ค๋ง๋ค์ด ํ๋ ๊ฐ์ ธ๊ฐ์ ์์ ๋ฒ๋ ธ๋ค๊ณ ์๊ธฐ ๋ค์์ด์ ใ
ใ
[00:50] <autowiz_> ํ๊ตญ ์์ค๋ง๋ค์ ํ์ด๋ ใ
ใ
[00:53] <razGon_MINILA> ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
[00:54] <razGon_MINILA> ์ด์ผ์๋ ๋นํ์ฃ
[00:54] <razGon_MINILA> ์ฐํ.ใ
[01:01] <Work^Seony> ์ฐํ์ ๊ทธ๋๋ ์ฝ๊ฐ์ ํ๋ณดํจ๊ณผ๊ฐ ์์์์
[01:01] <Work^Seony> ์ฐํ์ ์ด์ผ์๊ฐ ์๊ฒจ์ ธ์์ผ๋...
[01:01] <Work^Seony> ๊ทธ๊ฒ ๋ง์ด ๊ตด๋ฌ๋ค๋๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋งํผ ํ๋ณด๊ฐ ๋์ง๋ง,
[01:01] <razGon_MINILA> ๊ทธ๋ฌ๊ธด ํ์ฃ .ใ
[01:01] <Work^Seony> ์ํ๋ ์๋ฃ์๋ ๊ฑ ์์ด์ง๋ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ใ
ใ
[01:05] <samahui_WS> ์ด์ผ์ ์ฐํ์ ์ข ์ฌํ๋ค ์ถ์ฃ ... ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋ ํ๋ ๋๋ค๋ ์์์ผ๋ ใ
ใ
;;
[01:05] <razGon_MINILA> ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊น์.
[01:05] <razGon_MINILA> ์ค๊ตญ์ ๋ ํ ํ
๋ฐ.ใ
[01:05] <razGon_MINILA> ์ผ๋ณธ์ด ์๋ฐ์ด์์ง.ใ
[01:06] <razGon_MINILA> ํ์ฝฉ๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ตฌ.ใ
[01:07] <samahui_WS> but, ์ด์ผ์๋ ํ๊ตญ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ ์ฑ
๋ฐ ์ด๋์ ๋ ๋ง์ ์๋ค์ด์ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๋นํด๋ ์ธ๋ค ์ถ์๊ฒ ํจ์ ์ด์ฃ
[01:08] <razGon_MINILA> ใ
ใ
[01:08] <samahui_WS> ํํํ๊ณ ๋จน์๊บผ ๋จน์๋ค๋ ๊ธ๋ณด๋ ๋ ์ค๋ฅด๋๊ฒ.. ๊ณ ๋ฑํ๊ต๋ ์ด์ฝํ์ด์ ์๋ฃ ๋จน๊ฒ ๋ค๊ณ ํํํ๋ค๊ฐ ์ฐ๋ฌ์ ธ์ ๋ค์ ์ํ๋ฐ์ ์น๊ตฌ ์๊ฐ์ด....
[01:09] <samahui_WS> ๋ณดํต ๋นํ๊ธฐ ์์ผ๋ฉด ํํ์ ๋ชปํ๋๊ฑธ๋ก ์๋๋ฐ ์ด์ฐ ํ๋์ง ์ดํด๊ฐ ์๊ฐ์ง๋ง... ์ง์ง ์ ๋ฌ์์ฃ ใ
กใ
ก;;
[01:10] <samahui_WS> ๊ทธ๋ฌ๊ณ ๋ณด๋ ์ ์ฃผ๋ณ ์น๊ตฌ๋ค์ ์ด์ํ ๋๋ค์ด ์ข ๋ง๊ตฐ์... ์ง๋๊ฐ๋ค ์๋ฌด๋๋ณด๊ณ ์ธ์ฌํ๋๋๋ถํฐ... ์ ๋ง ์๋ ๊ฐ๊ณ์ธ๋ฅ ์๋ฌด ๊ฐ๊ณ๋ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ์ ์ฃผ์ธ๊ณผ ๋ด์๋๋๋ฉฐ ๋ค๊ณผ ๋ฐ์๋จน๋ ์น๊ตฌ๋๊น์ง...
[01:12] <razGon_MINILA> ใ
ใ
[01:23] <commania> ์๊ธฐํผ ๋ค์ ์ํ๋ฐ์ ์ฌ๋... ์ฌ๋ก๊ฐ ๊ฝค ๋ง์ด ์๊ตฐ์
[01:25] <Work^Seony> ์๊ธฐ ํผ ๋ค์ ์ํ๋ฐ์์ผ๋ฉด, ๊ฐ์ฅ ์ด์์ ์ธ ์ํ์ด๋ค์
[01:26] <razGon_MINILA> ใ
ใ
ใ
[01:27] <Work^Seony> ๋น์์๋ ๋ณด๊ดํ๋ค๊ฐ ๊ตถ์ด์ฃฝ๊ธฐ ์ ์ ๊บผ๋ด๋จน์ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์... ใ
ใ
[01:37] <Work^Seony> ์ธ๋๋ผ ์กฐ์ ์
๊ณ ์ ๋ถ ์กฐ ๋จ์ ์ ์๋ฌ๋ค๋ค์
[01:37] <Work^Seony> ์ ์ ๋ถ๊ฐ ์๋๋ผ 3์ฌ ํฉ์ณ์ 2์กฐ ๋ค์
[01:37] <Work^Seony> http://media.daum.net/economic/industry/newsview?newsid=20151105092623715
[01:38] <razGon_MINILA> ใ
ใ
ใ
[01:38] <razGon_MINILA> ์กฐ์ ์ฒ ๊ฐ. ์์ฃผ.ใ
[01:39] <razGon_MINILA> ํ๋ํธ ์ฌ์
์์ฒด๊ฐ ๋ณ๋ฃจ์์
[01:44] <samahui_WS> ๊ฑด์ค๋ ๊ทธ๋ ์ตธ
[01:44] <Work^Seony> ๊ทธ๋๋ ์ธ๋๋ผ๊ฐ ์ ์ธ๊ณ๋ฅผ ํ์ด์ก๋ ๋ถ์ผ ์ค ํ๋์๋๋ฐ,
[01:44] <razGon_MINILA> ๊ฑด์ค์ ์ด๋ฏธ.....์.
[01:44] <Work^Seony> ๋ง์น ์ถ๋ฝ ๋ด์ง๋ ๋ชฐ๋ฝํ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๋ค์..
[01:49] <Work^Seony> ๋ด์ผ ๋์ฌ์์ ํ์ฑ ํ์ฌ ๊ด๋ จ ์ค๋๋ฐํ ํ๋ค๋ค์
[02:20] <autowiz_> ํ์ฑ์ ์ ๊ฐ ๋๊ณ ์จ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ ๋ฐ๊ฒฌํ๋๋ด
๋๋ค.
[02:21] <cheesekun> ' ')!
[02:23] <Work^Seony> ์ด์ฉ๋ฉด, "ํ์ฑ์๋ ๋ฐค์ ์ถฅ๋ค" ์ด๋ฐ ๊ฑธ์ง๋ ใ
ใ
[02:28] <samahui_WS> ์ ๊ฐ ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋ ค๋๊ฑด ์๋๋ฐ... ๋ค๋ค ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์์.... ๋์ํ๊ณ ์จ๊ฑด ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค
[02:29] <autowiz_> ๊ถ๊ธํ๊ธด ํ๋ค์ ์ด๋ค ๋ด์ฉ์ผ์ง.
[02:30] <samahui_WS> ๋ ์ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ค๋
์ด ์
๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[02:30] <autowiz_> ์ด๊ฑฐ ํค๋ณด๋ ๋ฆฌ๋์ด ๊ธฐ๊ณ์์ด ์ ์ ์์ด ์๋ฉ๋๋ค ์์ง
[02:30] <autowiz_> ๋ญ ํ๋๋ฌ์ ์จ๋ด์ผ ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง์๋
[02:31] <autowiz_> ํค ๋๋ฅผ๋ ์ด๋ฐ์ ์๋ ฅ์ด ์์ผ๋๊น ์ค๋ฅด๋ฅต ๋ด๋ ค๊ฐ๋๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ๋๋ฌธ์ ๊ทธ๋ฐ์ง ํค ์คํธ๋กํฌ๊ฐ ๋ฌด์ง ๊น๊ฒ ๋๊ปด์ง๋๋ค.
[02:34] <samahui_WS> ํ์ถ์ธ๊ฐ์?
[02:35] <samahui_WS> ํ์ ๋นผ๊ณ ์ณ๋ณด์ธ์
[02:35] <samahui_WS> ๊พน๊พน ๋๋ฅด์ง๋ง๊ณ ๋ถ๋๋ฝ๊ฒ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ์ด์ด ํ๋๋ค๋ ์๊ฐ์ผ๋ก
[02:42] <PotatoGim> ์ด๋ฆํ์ผ ๊ตฌ๋ฆํ๋ฒ...
[02:49] <autowiz_> ์ ์ถ์ธ๋ฐ ๊ตฌ๋ฆํ๋ฒ์ด ๊ฐ๋ฅํ๋ค๊ณ ๋ธ๋ก๊ทธ๋ ์ ํ ์ค๋ช
์๋ ์จ์ ธ ์๋๋ฐ ์ ๋ด๊ณต์ด ๋ถ์กฑํ๊ฐ ๋ด
๋๋ค.
[02:50] <autowiz_> ์ ๋ถ์ด๋ค์ ใ
ใ
[02:50] <autowiz_> ํฌํ
ํ ๋์ด ์ค์
์ ์ข ๊ฐ๋ฅด์ณ ์ฃผ์์ง์ , ์๋ จ๋ ์๋ฒ๋ ์ข ๋ณด์ฌ์ฃผ์๊ณ ใ
ใ
[02:50] <razGon_MINILA> ์ ์ถ์ ์ ๋ ์ฐ๋ ๋ฐ. ํค๊ฐ์ด ์ ๊ฒ ๋ฃ์ด๋ ๊ด์ฐฎ์๋ฐ์
[02:50] <razGon_MINILA> ์๋นํ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํจ.ใ
[02:51] <razGon_MINILA> ์ ๊ฐ ํ์ถ๊ณผ ์ ์ถ์ฐ๋๋ฐ. ์๋ฆฌ๋ ํ์ถ์ด ํ์ง๋ง ํค์์ด ๋๊ณ . ์ ์ถ์ ๊ฐ๋ณ์ต๋๋ค. ์์์ด ์กฐ๊ธ ๋ ์์ง๋ง. ํ์ธก๋ณด๋ค์
[02:51] <razGon_MINILA> ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ถ์ด ์ข์ต๋๋ค.
[02:52] <razGon_LEo660M> ์ด์ ์ ์ด๊ฒ ํ์ฝ. ์ง๊ธ ๊ฒ์ ๋ ์คํด๋์.
[02:53] <razGon_LEo660M> ๊ทผ๋ฐ ํ์ฑ์์ ๋ฌด์ ์ ๋์๋๋ฐ. ์จ๋ณด์ ๋ถ?
[02:53] <razGon_LEo660M> ์ค๊ตญํฑํ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ์ ๋์ด.
[03:05] <samahui_WS> ์ ์ถ์ด๋ฉด ๊ตฌ๋ฆํ๋ฒ๋ณด๋ค๋ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ํ๋ฐ๋ฐ๋ฐ ๋๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ๋ญ๊ฐ ๊ฒฝ์พํ์ฃ
[03:06] <samahui_WS> ํ์ดํ ์๋๋ฅผ ๋์ด์ธ์ ใ
ใ
[03:06] <samahui_WS> ํ์ถ์ด ํค์์ด ์ข ์์ด์ ๊ตฌ๋ฆํ๋ฒํ๋ฉด ๋ณด๋ค ๋ถ๋๋ฝ๊ฒ ๊ณ ์์ฃผํ์ด ๊ฐ๋ฅํ์ฃ
[03:06] <samahui_WS> ์ ์ถ์ด๋ฉด ์ข ๋ ๊ฐ๋ณ๊ฒ ํ๋ค๋ค๋ค๋ฅ ๋ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ถ์ผ๋ก
[03:06] <samahui_WS> ์ฃผ๋ณ ์์๋๋ฌธ์ ๊ตฌ์
ํ๊ฑฐ ์๋์๋ฉด ๋๋๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ๋ฏธ๊ฐ ์์ํ ์ฒญ์ถ์ด๋ ๊ฐ์ถ์ผ๋ก ์ฎ๊ฒจ๋ณด์ธ์
[03:27] <autowiz_> ์๋ฌด๋๋ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ค์ด๋ค ๋ณด๋ ๋๋ฌด ํฐ๊ฑด ์ข ๋ง์์ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฝ๋๋ค.
[03:28] <razGon_LEo660M> ์ ์ถ ์ถ์ฒ๋๋ ค์.
[03:28] <razGon_LEo660M> ํ์ถ์ ํค์์ด ๋์์ ๋ง์ด ํ์ดํํ์ ๋ค๋ฉด ๋น์ถ๋๋ ค์
[03:29] <samahui_WS> ํ์ฑ ๋ฌด์ ์ ๋ ์ฐ๊ธฐ ๋์์ง๋ ์์ต๋๋ค. ์๋ฌด๋๋ ์ ๋ ดํ ๋ฌด์ ์ ์ด๋ฉด์ ๋ํ ๊ณ ๋ฌด๋ง๋ค์ด๊ฐ ์ ์์๋ฒ์ ผ์ด๋ผ ์ธ๋งํด์
[03:29] <autowiz_> ์ ๋ ๋ง์์ด๋ผ ๊ทธ๋ฐ์ง ํ๋ฐ์ ธ๊ฐ ๋ ์ข๋ค์ ใ
ใ
ใ
[03:29] <razGon_LEo660M> ๊ทธ๋ ๊ตฐ์.ใ
ใ
[03:29] <samahui_WS> ๋ฆฌ์ผํฌ์ค ์ ๋ ด๋ฒ์ ผ์ด์ฃ ใ
ใ
;
[03:30] <autowiz_> ํค๊ฐ๋ ๊ฐ๋ณ๊ณ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋ถ๋ณ๋ ฅ๋ ์๊ณ , ์ข๋ ์จ๋ด์ผ์๊ฒ ์ง์.
[03:30] <razGon_LEo660M> ํ๋ฐ์ ธ๋ ๊ด์ฐฎ์๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์์. ์ฌ์ฉํด์ ๊ด์ฐฎ์์ ์ ๋ฌผํด์ฃผ์๋๋ฐ. ๊ธฐ๊ณ์์ธ์ค ์๊ณ ๋น์ผ๊ฑธ๋ฃจ ์.ใ
ใ
ใ
[03:30] <samahui_WS> ใ
ใ
;
[03:30] <razGon_LEo660M> ํ๋๋ฌ๋ค์ ๊ฐ์๊ธฐ ์์ดํจ์ ํ ๋กํด์ ์ข ๋นํฉ์ค๋ฌ์์ง๋ง์.ใ
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[03:31] <samahui_WS> ์ ํดํผํดํน ์ฌ์คฌ๋๋ ํค๋ฐฐ์น๊ฐ ๋ชป์ธ๋์ด๋ผ๊ณ ๋๋ ค๋ฐ์์ ๋ ์์ฃ
[03:31] <autowiz_> ์์์์
... ํฌ๋กฌ ๋ธ๋ผ์ฐ์ ๋๊ธฐํ ๋น๋ฒ์ ์ผ๋ถ๋ฌ ๋ช์ผ์ ์ ๋ฐ๊ฟจ๋๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์ต์ด ์๋๋ค์ ใ
ใ
[03:31] <razGon_LEo660M> ใ
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[03:31] <razGon_LEo660M> ใ
ใทใทใท
[03:31] <autowiz_> ใ
ใ
ใ
ํดํผํดํน์ ๋ชป์์๋ณด๋ ๋ชป์ธ์ฌ๋์ด๊ตฐ์
[03:31] <samahui_WS> ํดํผ์ ๋ฆฌ์ผ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ ์คํด๋ ํ์ฑ๊น์ง ๊ตญ๋ด ๋์จ ๋ฌด์ ์ ์ ๋ค ์ฐ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ ... ์ ์ ์์ฆ TP 2์ธ๋ 7์ดํค๋ณด๋ ํค๊ฐ์ด ์ข์์ ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ํค๋ณด๋๋ง ์ฃผ๊ตฌ์ฅ์ฐฝ ๋๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[03:32] <autowiz_> ๊ฐ์ ์ ์ถ์ด๋ผ๋ ํ์ฌ๋ง๋ค ์กฐ๊ธ์ฉ ํค๊ฐ์ด ๋ค๋ฅผ ์ ๋ ์๊ฒ ์ง์?
[03:32] <samahui_WS> ์ค์์น์ ํค์บก์ ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๊ฐ์ ํ์ฌ๋ผ๋ ๋ค๋ฆ
๋๋ค
[03:32] <samahui_WS> ๊ธฐ๊ณ์์ ํญ์ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐํ์ง๋ง ๊ผญ ๋๋๋ ค๋ณด๊ณ ์ฌ๋ผ! ๋ผ๊ณ ๋งํ๊ณ ์ถ์ด์
[03:33] <samahui_WS> ์์ ์๊ฒ ๋ง๋๊ฑธ ์ฌ์ผ์ง ์๋ง์ผ๋ฉด ์ ๋ง ๋์๊น์ฃ
[03:33] <samahui_WS> ๋๋ฌด ๋น์ธ์๋์
[03:33] <autowiz_> ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ํค๋ณด๋๊ฐ ํค๊ฐ์ด ์๊ทผ ์ข์ต๋๋ค. ์ ๋ ํํ๊ทธ๋ผํ ๊ผฝํ์ ๋ช๋
๋์ ๋ฐํ์์๋ ํํ๋ง ์ผ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ , ๋๋ฆ ํค๊ฐ๋ ๊ฐ๋ณ๊ณ ์คํธ๋กํฌ๋ ์งง๊ณ , ์ข ์กฐ์ฉํ๊ธฐ๋ ํ๊ณ
[03:33] <samahui_WS> ๋น์ธ๊ฒ ์ฌ์ ํค๊ฐ์ด ์ด๊ฑด ์๋์ผ! ์ด๋ฌ๋ฉด ์ ๋ง ์ํ๊น์ต๋๋ค
[03:33] <samahui_WS> ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ํค๊ฐ์ ํค๋ณด๋ ์์ฒด์ ๊ฐ๋ ์์ง๋ง... ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ๊ตฌ์กฐ์ ๋ฐ๋ฅธ ์ฐจ์ด๋ ์๊ทผ ์์ด์์
[03:33] <samahui_WS> ํค๋ณด๋๋ง ๋ฝ์์ ์ฐ๋๊ฑด ๋น์ถ์
๋๋ค
[03:34] <samahui_WS> ์ ๋๋ก ๋๋ผ๋ ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๋
ธํธ๋ถ์ ๋ฌ๋ฆฐ ๊ทธ ์ํ์ ํค๋ณด๋๊ฐ ์๋๋ฉด ์๋๊ฑฐ๋ ์
[03:35] <samahui_WS> ๊ทธ๋์ ์์ฆ ๊ตฌํ ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ๊ฐ์ ธ๋ค๊ฐ ๊ฐ์กฐํด์ ์ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค
[03:36] <samahui_WS> ๋ ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ์์ค์ ๋จ๋ง๊ธฐ์ฒ๋ผ ๋ถ์ฌ๋๊ณ ์ฐ๊ณ ์๊ธฐ๋ ํ๊ณ ์... ์ ๋ง ๋ป์ง์ธ๋ฐ ... ๊ทธ๋๋ ํ์คํ ์ฅ์๊ฐ ์์
ํ๋ฉด ์ง์ ์ ํ๋ ๋ถ์์ธ ํค๋ณด๋ ๋ง์ฐ์ค ๋ชจ๋ํฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฌด์ ๋ชปํ๊ฒ ๋๋ผ๊ณ ์
[03:42] <samahui_WS> ์! ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋ ์๊ฐ๋๊ฑด๋ฐ ํค๊ฐ์ด๋ ํ์ดํ์์ธ ๋ถํธํ์๋ฉด ํค๋ณด๋์ ์๋ชฉ๋ฐ์นจ ๋ฌ์์ ์ฌ์ฉํด๋ณด์ธ์... ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ํค๊ฐ์ด ์ข์ ์ด์ ์ค ํ๋๊ฐ ํ๋ ์คํธ๋ผ๊ณ ์ ์ฌ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋ถ๋ถ์ด ์กด์ฌํด์ ์์ฐ์ค๋ ์์ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ํ์ดํํ๊ธฐ ์ข์์ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋ ์
[03:42] <autowiz_> ํฌํ
ํ ๋ ๋ค์ผ์
จ์ฃ ? ใ
ใ
ใ
์ ์๋ชฉ ๋ฐ์นจ๋ ํ๋๋ง ์ฌ์ฃผ์ธ์~~
[03:44] <razGon_LEo660M> ๊ทธ๋ ์ฃ .
[03:44] <razGon_LEo660M> ํํ๊ทธ๋ผํ ์ด์ ์ ์ป์๋๋ฐ. ํค๋ณด๋๊ฐ ์ข๋๊ตฐ์.
[03:44] <razGon_LEo660M> ์์์ด ๋๋๊ณ ํค๊ฐ์ด ์ข์๊ฒ ์ฅ์ .
[03:44] <razGon_LEo660M> ๋
ธํธ๋ถ์ ์ ๋ง ๋ง๋ ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์์.
[03:44] <razGon_LEo660M> ์ ๋ ์๋ชฉ ๋ฐ์นจ๋๋ฅผ ์๋๋ค. ใ
[03:56] <ircCloud^Seony> ์ ๋ ์๋ชฉ ๋ฐ์นจ๋ ์ฐ๋ค๊ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒ๋ ๊ณ์ ์ฐ๋ฉด ๋ถํธํด์ ์ฐ๋ค๋ง๋ค ํ๋ค์
[04:01] <autowiz_> ์นํ์ด์ง UI ํธํ์ฑ ํ
์คํธ๋ฅผ ํด๋ณผ๋ ค๊ณ ํ๋ค๊ณ ํ ๋
[04:02] <autowiz_> ํ ๋ . ์๋์ฐ์ฆ์ฉ ์ฌํ๋ฆฌ๋ ๋งฅ์ฉ ์ฌํ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ฌ์ค๊น์?
[04:02] <autowiz_> ์๋๋ฉด ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋ก ํ
์คํธ๋ฅผ ํ๋๊ฒ ๋ง์๊น์? ํ๋๋ค์ ์กฐ์ธ์ด ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค.
[04:03] <samahui_WS> ์นํ์ค ์งํค์
จ์ผ๋ฉด ํ๋๋ง ๋ด๋ ๋๊ฒ ์ง๋ง... ํน์๋ ํ๋ ์๊ฐ์ ์ ๋ค ๋๋ ค๋ด
๋๋ค
[04:04] <autowiz_> ๋ค ๋๋ ค๋ด์ผ๊ฒ ๋ค์ ใ
ใ
๋งฅ์ด ์๋๋ฐ์ ์ด๋ฐ
[04:04] <autowiz_> ํ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ผ๊ณ ํด์ผํ๋ ์๋๋ฉด ๋น๋ ค์์ผ ํ๋
[04:04] <jason__> ๋ค ๋๋ ค๋ด์ผ~ (ํคํจํ ์๋ ์ด๋จ์ง?)
[04:05] <ircCloud^Seony> ํฐํธ ๋๋ฌธ์ ๋ค๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋ณด์ผ ๊ฒ๋๋ค
[04:05] <samahui_WS> ์์ดํฐ์ฌ์ฉ์๋ฅผํตํ ์์ดํฐ๋ํ์ค..
[04:05] <ircCloud^Seony> ์ ๊ฒฝํ์, ์๋์ฐ ํฌ๋กฌ ๋งฅ ํฌ๋กฌ ๋ฆฌ๋
์ค ํฌ๋กฌ ๊ฑฐ์ ๋ค ๋ฌ๋์ด์
[04:06] <ircCloud^Seony> ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ถํธ์คํธ๋ฉ ๊ฐ์๊ฑธ ์ฐ๋๊ฒ ์ข๊ธด ํ์ฃ
[04:06] <ircCloud^Seony> ๋ธ๋ผ์ฐ์ ๋ณ๋ก ์ ๋ถ ๋ค ์ปค์คํฐ๋ง์ด์ง ๋์ด์์ผ๋๊น์
[04:08] <samahui_WS> ํ์ฌ์ ๋น ๋ฅธ ํ์ ์ ํตํด ํ ์ ์๋ ์ต์์ ์์
์ ํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค...
[04:09] <samahui_WS> ๋ฐ๋ก ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ธฐ ๋ณผ ์ ๋๋ฉ์ด์
๊ณผ ๊ต์ก๋ฐฉ์ก๋ค ๋ค์ด๋ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค ํธํํํ
[04:09] <ircCloud^Seony> ํ๊ตญ์ ๊ฐ์ ์ง๋ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ฌด์ง ๋น ๋ฅด์ง์๋์?
[04:09] <samahui_WS> ํ ๋ํธ๋ ํ์ฌ์์~ ใ
ใ
[04:09] <ircCloud^Seony> ์ฌ๊ธฐ๋ 50 mbps๋ก๋ ๋ฌด์ง ํ๋ณตํ๋ฐ์ ใ
ใ
[04:10] <samahui_WS> ์ง์ ๋ค์ด์ค๋๊ฒ ๋ง์ ๊ด๋์ธ๋ฐ ๋ค์ด์๋๋ 100๋ฉ๊ฐ ๊ฐ๊น์ด ๊ฐ๋ณธ์ ์ด ์๋ค์... 70๋ฉ๊ฐ ์ ๋ ๋์ค๋ฉด ์๋์จ๋ค ์ถ์ด์
[04:10] <samahui_WS> ์ด์ฌํ๊ณ ์ ๋๋ ค์ก์ด์
[04:11] <samahui_WS> ๊ทธ์ ๋ฐํด์ ํ์ฌ๋ ์์ฒด ํ์ ๋ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ณ ... ํ์ฌ์ ์ถ๊ฐ๋ก ๋ฌ์๋์ ํฌ์ฅ ์ ๋ฟ์กฐ์ฐจ ์ ๋ง ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋์ค๋ค์
[04:11] <ircCloud^Seony> tracepath๋ก ๊ฒ์ดํธ์จ์ด๋ณ ์กฐ์ฌํ์
์ผ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์ ใ
ใ
[04:11] <samahui_WS> ์ง์ ์ํํธ๋ผ ํํ์ ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ค์จ์ ๋๋ฆด์๋ฐ์ ์์ด์
[04:11] <samahui_WS> ์ฌ์ฉ์๊ฐ ๋ง์์๋ก ๋๋ฆฌ์ฃ
[04:12] <samahui_WS> ๋จ์ผํ์ ๋๋ ค์ฐ๊ธฐ ์ ๊ณต~!
[04:12] <ircCloud^Seony> ์... ๋ญ ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ด์ ๋ผ๋ฉด ์ด์ฉ ์ ์๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์ ใ
ใ
[04:13] <ircCloud^Seony> ํ ๋ฌ ์ ์ ์๋ฐ ์๋ฆฌํธ ์ปจํธ๋กค๋ฌ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ๊ฑฐ ๋ด์ผ ์จ๋ค๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฝ ์๋ค์. ์ผ๋ง๋ ์ธ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋ง์ผ๋ฉด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ ๊ตญ์ ํ์ ์ฌํ๊น์ง ์ผ์ด๋๊ณ ใ
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[04:15] <samahui_WS> ์คํธ? ๋๊ฐ ์ฌ์์ง ๊ทธ๋ฌ์
จ์ด์
[04:15] <samahui_WS> ๋ชธ๊ฐ์ฌ๋ ค์ ๋ํ๊ธฐ ใ
ใ
[04:15] <autowiz_> ์๋ฆฌํธ ์ปจํธ๋กค๋ฌ๋ผ ๊ตฌ๊ธ๋ง์ข ํด๋ด์ผ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.
[04:15] <samahui_WS> ์ ์์ฆ ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ๊ฐ์กฐ์ ์ฌ์ธํด์ ์ฌ์ ๊ฐ ์๋ค์
[04:15] <samahui_WS> 12์ธ์น์ ์ฟผ๋์ FHD... ๋ถํ ๊ฐ๋ณ๊ตฌ์
ํ๊ณ ๊ฐ์กฐํด์ ๋ง๋๋ ๋น์ฉ์ด 1000๋ฌ๋ฌ ๊ฐ๊น์ด ๋๋ค์ ใ
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[04:16] <samahui_WS> ์ ๋ฆ์ ์ ์ฌ๋จน์ผ๋ฌ ๋๊ฒจ์ฌ๊ป์... ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์ด ์คํ ํ์๋ค ๋์ธ์
[04:24] <ircCloud^Seony> ๋๊ฐ ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ํ๋ ๊ฐ๊ฒฉ๋ ์ฅ๋์ด ์๋๋ผ์์ ใ
ใ
[04:42] <samahui_WS> ๊ฐ๋จํ ์ผ๋์์น ๋จน๊ณ ์๋๋ฐ ์ค๋ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์์ ์ผ๋์์น ์๋น ์์ค๋
๋์๋ค๋ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํด์ฃผ๋ ์ผ์ค ์๋ ์ง์ ๋๋ถ์ ์์ฃผ ๋ง๋๊ฒ ๋จน์์ต๋๋ค ใ
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[04:43] <samahui_WS> ๊ผญ ๋จน๋๋ฐ ๋จน๋๊ฑฐ ๋ชธ์ ์์ข๋ค๋๋ ์ํํ๋ค๋๋ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ ํ๋ ์ฌ๋์ด ์์ด์
[04:43] <ircCloud^Seony> ์๋์์น ์๊ธฐํ์๋๊น ์๋ธ์จ์ด ๋จน๊ณ ์ถ๋ค์...
[04:43] <samahui_WS> ์๋ธ์จ์ด ํ๋๊น ์๋ธ์จ์ด๋ก ๊ฐ๊ป ์ถ๊ตฐ์ ใ
ใ
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[04:44] <ircCloud^Seony> ใ
ใ
ใ
[04:44] <samahui_WS> ๊ทธ๋ฅ ์ปคํผ์๊ณผ ์ผ๋์์น ๊ฐ์ด ํ๋ ๊ณณ์์ ๋จน์๋๋ฐ ๋ง์ด ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๊ทธ๋ฌ์ด์ ... ์๋ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ณ ใ
ใ
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[04:44] <ircCloud^Seony> ์ฌ๊ธฐ์๋ ์ธ๊ณ ๋ฐฐ๋ถ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋จน์ ์ ์๋ ์์ ์ค ํ๋์ด๊ธด ํ๋ฐ, ํ๊ตญ์์๋ ๋จน์ด๋ณธ์ ์ด ์์ด์ ์ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ๋ค์
[04:44] <samahui_WS> ํผ์งํ ๋ฐ๊ฒํธ์ผ๋์์น ๋จน๊ณ ์ถ๋ค์ ใ
ใ
[04:45] <samahui_WS> ๋จน์ด๋ ๋ฐฐ๊ณ ํ 20๋์ ๋ง์์ํ ๊ณง ๋ถํน ใ
ใ
[04:49] <samahui_WS> ์๋ธ์จ์ด๋ง๊ณ ๋ฉ๊ฐ๋ฒ๊ฑฐ์ธ๊ฐํ๋ ๊ณ ์ด๋ ํน๋๋ฒ๊ฑฐ ํ๋๊ณณ๋ ์๋๋ฐ... ์ด๊ฑด ๊ฒ๋์ ๋ชป๋จน๊ฒ ๋๊ตฐ์
[04:50] <samahui_WS> ์ผ๋์์น์ ์คํ
์ดํฌ๊ฐ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ ๋น์ฃผ์ผ... ๋น์ฃผ์ผ์ ๊ด์ฐฎ๋ค์ ใ
ใ
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[05:27] <autowiz_> ์ฃ์กํฉ๋๋ค. ์๋์ฐ์ฆ ์๋ก ์ค์นํ๋๋๋ง quassel ์ด ์๊พธ ๋ป์ผ๋ฉด์ ์ฃฝ์ด๋ฒ๋ฆฌ๋ค์
[05:38] <autowiz_> ์ด๊ฒ ์ซ์ ํค๋ ํ์
ํค๊ฐ ํฉ์ณ์ง๋ค๋ณด๋ ๋ญ๊ฐ ํค๋ณด๋๊ฐ ์ํ๊ฐ์ด ๋๋ค์... ์ด๊ฒ๋ ์ข์ง๋๋ฉด ๊ด์ฐฎ์์ง๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ๊ธด ํฉ๋๋ค๋ง.
[05:56] <samahui_WS> Fnํค ์กฐํฉ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋๊ฑฐ์ผ ์ ์ํ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ง์ด์ง๋ง alt+crtl+f1 ์ด๋ฐ์์ ์กฐํฉ์ ์ข ํ๋ค์ฃ
[06:58] <razGon_LEo660M> ์ ๋ ํ
ํค๋ฆฌ์ค์ธ 5์ดํค๋ณด๋์ธ๋ฐ ์ข์์.ใ
[06:58] <razGon_LEo660M> ๋ฌผ๋ก ์กฐํฉ์ ๋ฃ์ด์ผ ๋์ง๋ง. ๊ทธ๊ฒ์ ๊ฒ์์ฉ ๋ง์ฐ์ค๋ฅผ ์ฌ์ ๋ณด์
[06:59] <razGon_LEo660M> ๋ง์ฐ์ค์ ํด๋ฆญ๋๋ ํค๊ฐ 6๊ฐ.ใ
ใ
[07:03] <samahui_WS> ์ ํดํผํดํนํ๋ก2๋ FC660C๋ณด๋ค ํ๋ค๊น์ ใ
ใ
[07:03] <samahui_WS> ์ ๋ ๊ฒ์ด๋ฐ ๋ง์ฐ์ค ๋ฉํฐํค ์ง์๋๋๋ ๊ตฌ์
ํด์ผ ํ๋๊ฑด๊ฐ์? ใ
ใ
[07:03] <samahui_WS> ์ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๋ฆฌ๋
์ค ์์์ ์กฐํฉํค ์ธ๊ฑด ๋ฐ๋ก ๋จ์ถํค ์ง์ ํด๋๊ณ ์๋๋ค
[07:04] <samahui_WS> ๋ฌธ์ ๋ ๋ค๋ฅธ ์ฌ๋ ์ปด ์ธ๋๊ฐ ์กฐ๊ธ ํด๊น๋ คํ๋ค๋ ๋จ์ ์ด ์์ฃ
[07:04] <ircCloud^Seony> ํดํผํดํน ์ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ข ๊ทธ๋ฐ๊ฒ, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์ ์ต์ํด์ ธ์ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ค ์ง ๋๋ค ๋ชจ๋ ํดํผํดํน ์ฌ๊ฒ๋ ๊น๋ด ๊ฒ๋์ ๋ชป์ฌ๊ฒ ์ด์ ใ
ใ
[07:05] <ircCloud^Seony> ๊ฒ๋ค๊ฐ ๋ ๋๋ฌด ์ต์ํด์ง๋ฉด ๋ค๋ฅธ๊ฑธ ๋ชป์ฐ๊ณ ...
[07:05] <razGon_LEo660M> ใ
ใ
ใ
[07:05] <razGon_LEo660M> ์ ๋ ๋ฐฉํฅํค๋ ์์ด์ผ ๋๊ฒ๋๋ผ๊ตฌ์.ใ
[07:06] <razGon_LEo660M> ๊ทธ๋์ ํดํผํดํน์ด๋ ๋ํค ํค๋ณด๋๋ฅผ ์์์ฃ .
[07:06] <samahui_WS> ์ ํ๋ ์ ๊ฐ ์ฌ๊ณ ๋ค๋ฅธ ํ๋๋ ์๋ด์๊ฒ ์ด์ง์ฟต ์๋ นํผ์์ ๋ฐ์๋์ต๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[07:07] <autowiz_> ์ข์ ๋ง๋๋์ ๋์
จ๊ตฐ์ ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
[07:07] <samahui_WS> ํ์ ์ฌ์ค๊ฒ ๋ง์ ๋๋ถ์ด์ง์
[07:07] <samahui_WS> ใ
ใ
[07:08] <razGon_LEo660M> ใ
ใ
ใ
[07:08] <razGon_LEo660M> ๋ฉ์ง์๊ตฐ์.ใ
[07:11] <samahui_WS> ์ ์ ๋ง์ ๋๋ ธ์ง๋ง... ์๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์ถ์๋ ์ ๋ถ๋น์ ์๋ด๋ฅผ ์ ๊ณต๋ตํด์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค. ์ฐ์ ์๋ด์๊ฒ ์ฌ๊ณ ์ถ์๊ฑฐ ์ฌ๊ฒํ๊ณ ๋๋ ํ๋ ์ฐ๋ค๋ ๊ฐ๋
์ ์ธ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ๊ณผ ์๋ด์๊ฒ ๋ด๊ฐ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์ถ์๊ฑธ ์ฌ์ฃผ๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ ๋ณํํ๋๊ฑฐ์ฃ
[07:22] <chann> ์๋
ํ์ธ์
[07:22] <autowiz_> ์๋
ํ์ธ์~
[07:29] <razGon_LEo660M> ํธ๋ ์ด๋...ใ
[08:46] <autowiz_> mysql ์ ์ฑ
์ด ๋ฐ๊ผ๋์? ์๋
์ฏค์ธ๊ฐ ํผ์น๋ชปํ ์ฌ์ ์ผ๋ก mariaDB๋ก ์ค์น๋ฅผ ํ๊ณค ํ๋๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์๋ฐ
[08:46] <autowiz_> ์ค๋ mysql ํํ์ด์ง์์๋ ๋ค์ด์ด ๊ฐ๋ฅํด ๋ณด์ด๋๊ตฐ์
[11:34] <ipeter_> ๋งฅ ํค๋ณด๋...
[11:34] <ipeter_> ๊ธฐ๊ณ์ ์ฐ๋ค๊ฐ ์ธ๋งํ ๊น์?
[11:37] <ipeter_> ํ ์์ผ๋ถํฐ ์
๋ฌด๋ ๋งฅ์ ์จ๋ณผ๊น ํฉ๋๋ค..ใ
[12:27] <jason__> autowiz_:
[12:27] <jason__> ๋ต์ด ์๋ค? ํ ... PotatoGim ping!
[12:28] <jason__> ์ญ์ ์.... HolyKnight !!
[12:28] <HolyKnight> ใ
ใ
ใ
[12:29] <autowiz_> ํ๋ค๋ฅ ใ
ใ
[12:29] <jason__> ๊ทธ๋ผ ๋ง์ง๋ง์ผ๋ก ๋ญํด Dark Circle ? ํ๋ ค๋ ์ค์ธ๋ฐ...
[12:29] <jason__> HolyKnight: & autowiz_ ์ก๋
๋ฒ๊ฐ ํจ ๊ธฐํํด ๋ณด3
[12:29] <jason__> <------ ํน๋ช
!
[12:29] <HolyKnight> ใทใท
[12:30] <jason__> -1 ? ใ
ใ
ใ
[12:30] <jason__> ๊ฑ ์ฐ๋ถํฌ ํฌ๋ผ ์ก๋
๋ชจ์๋ *๊ฐ์ด* ํ๊นก?
[12:39] <autowiz_> ๊ฐ์ํ์ ์ฌ๋ฆฌ๋๊ฒ ์๋๊น์?
[12:39] <autowiz_> ๊ทธ๋ฅ ์ฑ๋ฐฉ์์ ๋ชจ์๊น์?
[13:28] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3629938&cpage=7
[13:40] <autowiz_> ํดํดํด
[13:54] <PotatoGim> jason__: ์~ ์ธ๋ถ์ ์๋ค๊ฐ ์ด์ ๊ท๊ฐํ์ต๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[13:55] <PotatoGim> ์น๋๋์ด ํจ๊ปํ์๋ ์๋ฆฌ๋ผ๋ฉด ์ผ์น ๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค...ใ
ใ
[14:02] <autowiz_> ์ผ์น๋ถ๊ตฌํ๊ณ ์ค์๋๊ฒ ์๋๋ผ ๊ผญ์ค์
์ผ ํฉ๋๋ค ใ
ใ
ใ
[14:07] <PotatoGim> ์ฝ...ใ
ใ
๊ทธ ์ ์ ์ค์ฆ๋๊ณผ๋ ๋ฐ๋ก ๋ต ๊ธฐํ๊ฐ ์์ผ๋ฉด ์ข๊ฒ ๋๋ฐ...
[14:13] <PotatoGim> ์์ฝ...ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
[14:13] <PotatoGim> ๋ฌด์จ ๋ง์ธ๊ฐ ํ์ฐธ์ ๋ดค๋ค์..ใ
ใ
[14:16] <autowiz_> ๋ฐ๋ก๋ต๋ฉด ์ข๊ณ .. ์ ์๊ฐ์๋์๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒธ์ฌ๊ฒธ์ฌ ๋ต๋ฉด ๋์ง์
[14:16] <autowiz_> (์ง์ ๊ฐ์ค ์๊ฐ์ ์๋์์ง์? ใ
ใ
ใ
)
[14:21] <PotatoGim> ์ผํ... ์๋ ๋ณด๋ด์ฃผ์ ๋คํ์ฌ์... ๊ธธ๋ฐ๋ฅ์์ ์ฌ์ฐ์๋ ค๊ณ ...ใ
[14:23] <autowiz_> ๊ธธ๋ฐ๋ฅ์ ์ข ์๋์ง์ ใ
ใ
[14:23] <autowiz_> ๊ณต์ค์ ํ ๋ผ๋๊ฐ
[14:24] <PotatoGim> ...
[14:24] <PotatoGim> ๋ฐ๋ฐ์ํ๊ฒ ์
๊ณ ๊ฐ์ผ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์...ใ
[14:25] <autowiz_> ํ
ํ ๋๊ณผ ํจ๊นจ๋ผ๋ฉด ์ด๋๋ค ๋ฌด์จ ์๊ด ์ด๊ฒ ์ต๋๊น ใ
ใ
[14:27] <PotatoGim> ํฌ... ์ด๋ ๊ฒ๊น์ง ์๊ปด์ฃผ์๋ ๋ชธ ๋ ๋ฐ๋ฅผ...
[14:28] <autowiz_> ๋ชธ๋BAR ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ฐ ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ์ฐพ์๋๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[14:29] <PotatoGim> ํ... ์ด์ ๋๋๋ค์ด...
[14:29] <PotatoGim> ๊ณ์๋...
[14:29] <autowiz_> ๋๋์ด ๋๋์? ๋์์ด ๋๋์ ใ
ใ
ใ
[14:31] <PotatoGim> ์ ๊ธฐ์ค์์๋ ๋๋๋ค์ด ๋ง์ผ์ค ๊ฒ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค.. ํํ...
[14:36] <PotatoGim> ๋ฐฐ์น๊ฐ ๋ฐ๋๋ ๋๋ฌด ์ ์ ์ด ์๋ค์...
[14:37] <PotatoGim> ๋์ฒด ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์ง๋๊ฐ๋์ง ๊ธฐ์ต์ด ํ๋๋ ์๋์...
[14:39] <autowiz_> ์ธ์์ธ๊ณ๋ ์์ ํ์
จ์ด์? ใ
ใ
[14:39] <PotatoGim> ์ธ์์ธ๊ณ๋ ๋ค ๋ง์ณค์ต๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[14:39] <PotatoGim> ๋ค๋ง ๋์์ ์งํํ๋ ์ผ๋ค์ด ๋ง์์ ธ์ ์ ์ ์ด ํ๋๋ ์์ต๋๋ค ใ
กใ
ก;
[15:19] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3626197
[22:52] <Work^Seony> ์์นจ๋ถํฐ owncloud ์ฝ์งํ๊ณ ๋ฐ์ ํ๋ฃจ์๋ค์...
[22:52] <razGon_LEo660M> ใ
ใทใทใท
[22:53] <razGon_LEo660M> ๋ฌด์์ด ์ฝ์ง.
[22:54] <Work^Seony> ใ
ใ
oc 5์์ 8๋ก ์
๊ธํ๋ฉด์ ์๊ธฐ๋ ๊ณผ์ ์ ์ฌ๋ฌ๊ฐ์ง ์ข ๋ณต์กํ ์ผ์ด ์์๋ค์
[22:56] <razGon_LEo660M> ์
๊ทธ๋ ์ด๋๊ฐ ๋ฌธ์ ์ฃ . ํญ์
[22:57] <Work^Seony> ๋ค. owncloud๋ ํน๋ณํ ๋ ๊ทธ๋์.
[23:20] <pchero> ํ ..
[23:20] <pchero> ํน์ perforce ์ฐ์๋ ๋ถ ๊ณ์ ๊ฐ์?
[23:21] <Work^Seony> ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ญํ๋ ๊ฑฐ์์?
[23:21] <pchero> git ๊ฐ์ ํ์ ๊ด๋ฆฌ ํด์ด์์. ใ
ใ
ใ
[23:21] <pchero> ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ, ์ค์๋ก p4 clean ๋ช
๋ น์ด๋ฅผ ๋ ๋ ค๋ฒ๋ ค์.. -_-;;;
[23:21] <pchero> ์์
ํ๊ฒ ๋ชฝ๋
๋ ์๊ฐ ๋ฒ๋ ค์๋ฆฌ.. -_-;;
[23:22] <Work^Seony> ํ...
[23:22] <pchero> ํ .. 4~5์ผ ์ง๋ฆฌ ์์
๋์ธ๋ฐ..
[23:22] <Work^Seony> ํ์์ ๋ฐฑ์
์ ์ ์ํด๋์๋๋ณด๋ค์...
[23:23] <pchero> ๋ค.. ์ด๋ฒ๊ฑด ์ข ์น๋ช
์ ์ด๋ค์..;;
[23:23] <Work^Seony> ๋งฅ ์ฐ์๋ฉด ํ์๋จธ์ ๊ฑธ์ด๋๊ณ ์ ๊ฒฝ ์์ฐ๋ฉด ๋์ง๋ง, ๋ฆฌ๋
์ค ์ฐ์ ๋ค๋ฉด btrfs๋ zfs ๊ฐ์ ๊ฑธ๋ก ํฌ๋งทํ์๊ณ ์ค๋
์ท์ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ์ผ์๋๊ฒ ์ข์์
[23:24] <pchero> ใ
ใ
[23:24] <Work^Seony> ์ ๊ฐ ์๋ฌด๋๋ ์์คํ
๊ด๋ฆฌ์๊ฐ ๋๋์ฑ ๋ฐฑ์
์ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ๊ธด ํ๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋๋ ๋์ ๋ฐฑ์
์ ๋๊ตฌ์๊ฒ๋ ๋ง์ด ํ์์์ฃ
[23:26] <pchero> ์ํด...
[23:26] <pchero> ๊ณฐ๊ณฐํ ์๊ฐํด๋ ๋ณ์ ์๋ค์...
[23:26] <pchero> ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๋ค์ ์ฒ์๋ถํฐ ํ๋ ์ ๋ฐ์..
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.041713
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"HolyKnight",
"PotatoGim",
"Work^Seony",
"autowiz_",
"chann",
"cheesekun",
"commania",
"ipeter_",
"ircCloud^Seony",
"jason__",
"pchero",
"razGon_LEo660M",
"razGon_MINILA",
"samahui_WS"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/05/%23ubuntu-ko.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
}
|
2015-11-05-#ubuntu-release
|
[08:35] <tumbleweed> is it just me, or is force-badtest unuseable these days?
[08:35] <tumbleweed> I find I have to use skiptest, to get bitney to listen to me :(
[08:38] <Ian_Corne> I'm looking for my bugreport i submitted, but can't find it on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;package=ibus
[09:04] <Laney> tumbleweed: I used a badtest yesterday
[09:04] <Laney> got an example?
[09:20] <tumbleweed> Laney: sure, I can roll back to what I had, and wasn't working
[09:20] <tumbleweed> although the situation is slightly different now
[09:21] <tumbleweed> grr pyzmq just won't build on ARM
[22:55] <oSoMoN> hello
[22:56] <oSoMoN> oxide-qt was pushed to vivid by accident (it should have gone to the overlay PPA, wrong landing request config), and is now sitting in the unapproved queue, can someone please delete it from there?
[22:56] <infinity> oSoMoN: Done.
[22:57] <oSoMoN> infinity, thanks a bunch!
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.049045
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Ian_Corne",
"Laney",
"infinity",
"oSoMoN",
"tumbleweed"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/05/%23ubuntu-release.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-release"
}
|
2015-11-05-#lubuntu
|
[05:04] <tachibana> hi
[05:46] <Unit193> tachibana: Howdy.
[06:15] <jay38748> some burned cds I have cant be read by lubuntu.
[06:15] <jay38748> lubuntu just shows up chinese language icons, it does not show any wav, mp3 or doc files on the cds
[06:16] <jay38748> the cds were burned under windows 7
[06:27] <netrobyatmobile> Hello
[06:27] <netrobyatmobile> Any lubuntu developer online?
[06:27] <netrobyatmobile> Today lxterminal add very impressive feature, add setting options for default windows size
[06:27] <netrobyatmobile> https://github.com/lxde/lxterminal
[06:28] <netrobyatmobile> The commit here: https://github.com/lxde/lxterminal/commit/06509bc0e1b266aadd7e483e6edb1f559667295d
[06:28] <netrobyatmobile> is it possible to getting delivered to ubuntu deb repository?
[07:02] <ianorlin> um the git version would depend on the lubuntu daily ppa
[07:02] <ianorlin> I think this was techincally possible maybe before in openbox
[07:02] <ianorlin> netrobyatmobile: ^^
[07:04] <netrobyatmobile> I am using lubuntu 15.10, and tested it .
[07:04] <netrobyatmobile> looks very well
[07:07] <Unit193> Patches like that don't usually get backported, you'd have to wait for 1604 if the next lxterminal is released by then.
[07:09] * netrobyatmobile I hate the linux worlds. slow software update period. :X
[07:10] <Unit193> Kind of crazy to backport all new git features/commits, though.
[16:01] <mohsen-rashidi> hi. new lubuntu user here. looking for layout switching applet
[18:00] <Langley> Help, I want to set VLC as default for mkv but it doesn't show up in neither the Open With list or the LXSession list thing
[18:01] <Langley> Oh wait now it actually does
[18:01] <Langley> Nevermind then!
[19:01] <Langley> What do I use for taking screenshots in lubuntu
[19:04] <leszek> Langley: scrot I would assume. Its a command line app basically saving into home by default
[19:04] <Scaniatrucker> Langley: You can use scrot
[19:06] <redwolf> usually the print screen key runs scrot
[19:06] <redwolf> and it leaves a picture in your home folder
[19:07] <Langley> That's kinda unituative... oh well thanks
[19:08] <wxl> well that's how windows works, Langley :)
[19:08] <Langley> What windows?
[19:08] <wxl> well windows xp anmd everything before it
[19:09] <Langley> Why are you bringing windows up when I am running linux
[19:09] <redwolf> as an example, I guess :)
[19:09] <wxl> i'm saying that the notion of using the print screen key to make a screenshot is not uncommon
[19:09] <wxl> so intuitive or not, it's fairly "normal"
[19:10] <wxl> what would you think intuitive would be?
[19:11] <Langley> An addition of a camera sound, flash, or some effect that doesn't require you to magically know something has happened
[19:11] <wxl> but how would you know print screen works to begin with?
[19:12] <Langley> From its name
[19:12] <wxl> ok so that's intuitive, you just need some sort of notification
[19:12] <wxl> we'll give it some consideration but i can't think of anything that does that except mobile devices
[19:13] <Langley> I've tried other distros that comes up with a Save As box
[19:15] <redwolf> that happens using gnome-screenshot, it opens a dialog. and it's not only Ubuntu-Gnome who uses it
[19:15] <redwolf> Lubuntu's solution is straight forward
[19:16] <wxl> actually looking at the scrot manpage, there's an option to prevent beepnig, which implies beeping is the default
[19:16] <Langley> Only if you knows it exists in the first place. Why not just pop a little "Screenshot saved to Home folder" notification box in the corner
[19:17] <redwolf> I think everybody knows the use of the prtscr key
[19:17] <redwolf> I still remember using it in MS-DOS
[19:17] <wxl> redwolf: can you confirm the beep?
[19:17] <redwolf> I have no beeper :D
[19:18] <wxl> redwolf: so scrot does not beep for you or you have no way to hear a beep?
[19:18] <redwolf> I think it can't
[19:18] <redwolf> I planned to do a modification, so you could hear a real camera sound while pressing the key
[19:18] <wxl> huh i don't hear it here
[19:18] <redwolf> I might post that "trick" to the blog
[19:19] <wxl> well that might be useful
[19:19] <wxl> Langley: watch the lubuntu blog for your solution XD
[19:21] <redwolf> but I didn't do yet! :D
[19:27] <Langley> Anyways for how long with 15.10 get security updates
[19:27] <wxl> should be listed in the release notes, Langley
[19:42] <mijowh> hello. why is it that in synaptics when i mark firefox for removal it wants to remove lubuntu-desktop? do i need lubuntu-desktop?
[19:43] <redwolf> because lubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that includes the browser too
[19:43] <mijowh> so its unnecessary?
[19:43] <redwolf> you don't really need it, just be careful when removing it, so other dependencies don't go away too
[19:44] <mijowh> thats what i thought but i dont want to break anything
[19:44] <redwolf> yes, you can keep the lubuntu-core and the additional apps and packages
[19:44] <redwolf> but I don't recommend removing it
[19:44] <mijowh> ok, thank you
[19:44] <mijowh> then how do i remove firefox
[19:44] <redwolf> you're welcome :)
[19:44] <redwolf> it's the only way, removing firefox will remove lubuntu-desktop too
[19:44] <redwolf> or you can simply keep it and add another one
[19:45] <mijowh> alright, thanks for clearing that up
[19:45] <redwolf> :)
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-pl
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[09:35] <Spaulding> qermit: z 4 lata minely od ostatniej naszej rozmowy
[09:35] <qermit> Spaulding: 4?
[10:10] <Spaulding> qermit: no cos takiego :P
[10:10] <Spaulding> po tej szelowni co to byla
[10:10] <Spaulding> kiedys kiedys...
[10:10] <Spaulding> ta szelownia z 5-6 lat temu byla ;p
[10:20] <mati75> Spaulding: jaka nazwa?
[10:30] <Spaulding> mati75: hmmm
[10:30] <Spaulding> dajszela.pl? :>
[10:30] <Spaulding> chyba tak to szlo
[10:31] <Spaulding> w sumie moglbym znowu otworzyc shellownie ;p
[10:31] <Spaulding> teraz wiecej mozliwosci
[10:31] <Spaulding> tylko kto by to chcial...
[10:31] <gjm> nikt
[10:32] <Spaulding> wlasnie
[10:32] <Spaulding> teraz se vps'a kupisz za 5$/pcm
[10:32] <Spaulding> aczkolwiek mydevil dziala i dziala
[10:37] <mati75> teraz to masz dedyki po 2 ojro za miesiฤ
c
[10:37] <qermit> Spaulding: prawdziwฤ
kasฤ robi siฤ na apkach typu szczฤลliwy kaktus
[10:49] <Spaulding> mati75: cooo?! 2euro za dedyka? poka
[10:49] <Spaulding> qermit: nie wiem, ja siedze w robocie i robie prawdziwa kase :P
[10:49] <Spaulding> hehehe
[10:50] <mati75> Spaulding: poprawka 3
[10:50] <mati75> Spaulding: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server
[10:51] <Spaulding> mati75: mam to
[10:51] <Spaulding> minecraft na tym stoi
[10:51] <Spaulding> to ledwo dziala
[10:51] <Spaulding> ;)
[10:51] <Spaulding> hehehehe
[10:51] <Spaulding> ten dysk sieciowy to kpina
[10:52] <mati75> mi tam dobrze chodzi
[10:52] <Spaulding> za 5$ mam z Vultra i smiga lepiej
[10:53] <Spaulding> ten armin to moze na nagiosa by sie nadal czy cos
[10:53] <Spaulding> zeby checki robic
[10:56] <firemark> 2 ojro to w sumie 4$โฆ to lepiej tego vultra na oko
[11:10] <Spaulding> mi tam i tak kuku bo w ยฃ place :P
[11:10] <Spaulding> wiec jak widze dolary czy ojro to i tak mam taniej :P
[11:10] <Spaulding> a co do vultra to mam z dyskiem sata 120G
[11:10] <Spaulding> i smiga elegancko
[11:10] <Spaulding> poczta prywatna na tym stoi juz pol roku
[11:11] <Spaulding> musze pomyslec o offlineimap i backupach bo bede plakal :P
[11:14] <jacekn> Spaulding: gdzie w UK siedzisz?
[11:15] <Spaulding> jacekn: Londyn
[11:16] <gjm> nie ma takiego miasta Londyn
[11:16] <gjm> jest Lฤ
dek, Lฤ
dek-Zdrรณj
[11:17] <jacekn> Spaulding: spoko, ja tez. Na jakies lokanle meetupy techniczne chodzisz?
[11:17] <Spaulding> jacekn: panie, chcialbym
[11:18] <Spaulding> wracam o 17
[11:18] <Spaulding> zanim dojade to dupa
[11:18] <Spaulding> ;p
[11:18] <Spaulding> w krk chodzilem na meetupy
[11:18] <jacekn> Spaulding: nie pracujesz w centrum?
[11:18] <Spaulding> nope
[11:18] <Spaulding> 5 strefa ;D
[11:18] <jacekn> o kurde. Ja w centrum wiec na wiele meetup moge na nogach dojsc po pracy
[11:18] <Spaulding> no tak
[11:19] <Spaulding> tylko ja od pracy do domu mam 5 minut
[11:19] <Spaulding> :P
[11:19] <Spaulding> hehehe
[11:19] <Spaulding> tak bym musial dojazd robi
[11:19] <Spaulding> c
[11:19] <Spaulding> a chate wynajac w 1-2 strefie to masakra :D
[11:19] <Spaulding> juz nie tyle chodzi o hajs chociaz to tez swoja droga co ilosc chetnych
[11:19] <jacekn> no zalezy, male mieszkanie sie znajdzie jakies
[11:19] <crusty> nie jest ลบle
[11:19] <crusty> ยฃ2800 na King's Cross
[11:20] <Spaulding> a dojazdy po 1h mi sie juz znudzily
[11:20] <crusty> = D
[11:20] <Spaulding> crusty: no
[11:20] <Spaulding> akurat na browary i szame zostanie hajs
[11:20] <Spaulding> :D
[11:21] <Spaulding> tylko pozatym to nic... :D
[11:21] <crusty> ale z tym jedzeniem teลผ tak bez przegiฤcia :D
[11:21] <Spaulding> a nie wiem
[11:21] <Spaulding> obok siebie mam glowna ulice
[11:21] <Spaulding> w porze lunchu sa fajne promki
[11:21] <Spaulding> curry po 5.90
[11:22] <Spaulding> fish & chips po 5ยฃ
[11:22] <crusty> hmm
[11:22] <crusty> nie jest ลบle
[11:22] <Spaulding> lub.. moje ulubione kurczak i fryty panierowane
[11:22] <Spaulding> po 2.50 :D
[11:22] <crusty> w sumie bardzo dobrze :D jak na GB
[11:22] <Spaulding> za 6 wingsow lub kurczak burgera i jebitna porcje frytemk
[11:22] <Spaulding> no :D
[11:22] <jacekn> mozez znalezc 1bed za 1-1.5k na miesiac sie da znalezc
[11:22] <Spaulding> dlatego sie nie ruszam do centrum
[11:22] <Spaulding> ja mam 1bed za 975
[11:23] <Spaulding> ale doliczajac c.tax etc etc. wyjdzie z 1.3k
[11:23] <Spaulding> w manchesterze 1/2 za 2-3 bed sie placi :D
[11:23] <jacekn> pytanie jaka roznica w zarobkach. Z mojego doswiadczenia baaardzo duza, zwykle ok 10-20k wiecej mozna w centrum dostac
[11:24] <crusty> chyba, ลผe pracujesz z domu :P
[11:24] <crusty> wtedy wszystko jedno
[11:24] <Spaulding> jacekn: hmm... ja juz poki co limit swoj wyczerpalem
[11:24] <jacekn> Spaulding: limit czego?
[11:24] <Spaulding> jacekn: zarobkow
[11:25] <jacekn> e tam zawsze sie da wiecej :)
[11:25] <Spaulding> jak masz 2 lata pracy w CV
[11:25] <Spaulding> to wiecej juz nie sadze ze wyciagne :D
[11:25] <Spaulding> musze poczekac
[11:25] <jacekn> crusty: wiekszosc firm niestety nie pozwala zdalnie. A jak pozwalaja to zwykle nizsze zarobki sa
[11:26] <Spaulding> jacekn: zdalnie dobrze robic jak masz firme w UK a siedzisz w PL
[11:26] <Spaulding> albo w innym tanim kraju jak np. Hiszpania :D
[11:26] <Spaulding> tam jest kryzys, chata tania
[11:26] <crusty> hmm
[11:26] <Spaulding> dostajesz funty
[11:26] <Spaulding> elegancko
[11:26] <jacekn> Spaulding: moze ale mowie Ci zwykle w centrum dostaniesz znacznie wiecej na poza. Mimo dojazdow sie oplaca finansowo zwykle. Tylko oczywscie tracisz czas na dojazdy
[11:26] <Spaulding> ;)
[11:26] <Spaulding> albo portugalia
[11:26] <crusty> zarobki w ยฃ, wydatki w PLN
[11:26] <crusty> coลย piฤknego :D
[11:26] <Spaulding> jacekn: niby tak, ale jak dzwonili to wychodzilo podonbie
[11:26] <Spaulding> 50-60k
[11:27] <jacekn> Spaulding: musisz byc w UK 180 dni na rok zeby legalnie byc tu zatrudnionym
[11:27] <Spaulding> tak, ale zdalnie to co innego
[11:27] <Spaulding> invoice wystawiasz i masz w dupie
[11:28] <Spaulding> jak bylem w krk to mielismy polowe teamu zdalnie
[11:28] <Spaulding> rosja, hiszpania
[11:28] <Spaulding> slowacja
[11:28] <Spaulding> uk
[11:28] <Spaulding> i polska
[11:28] <Spaulding> i tylko fakturki dawali
[11:29] <jacekn> to planujesz popracowac w UK, podrasowac CV i do Polski wrocic?
[11:29] <jacekowski> jacekn: gowno prawda
[11:29] <jacekn> jacekowski: co gowno prawda?
[11:29] <firemark> wtf?
[11:29] <Spaulding> jacekn: nie ma szans ze wroce do PL ;)
[11:29] <jacekn> hahaha
[11:29] <firemark> jacekn: jacekowski myลlaลem ลผe jesteล jednฤ
osobฤ
o rรณลผnych nickach.
[11:29] <Spaulding> a na pewno nie do krakowa gdzie teraz smog napieprza
[11:30] <jacekowski> jacekn: mozesz mieszkac ile chcesz zeby byc legalnie zatrudnionym
[11:30] <Spaulding> w sumie wawa to sloiki
[11:30] <Spaulding> wroclaw moze jako IT ale jakos... ;p
[11:30] <firemark> wawa ma fajnฤ
komunikacjฤ zrobionฤ
.
[11:30] <jacekowski> jacekn: mozesz nawet mieszkac w uk 0 dni w roku i byc zatrudniony
[11:30] <Spaulding> tjaaa
[11:30] <jacekn> jacekowski: nie bedziesz mial prawa rezydenta wtedy
[11:30] <jacekowski> jacekn: gowno prawda
[11:31] <jacekowski> jacekn: i to i tak nie ma znaczenia
[11:31] <jacekn> jacekowski: no coz, payroll w 2 firmach mi mowil ze musisz byc. Moze sie mylili
[11:31] <jacekowski> po pierwsze, prawo rezydenta otrzymujesz w momencie przekroczenia granicy w celu pozostawania
[11:31] <jacekn> jacekowski: no mysle ze nie sprawdzaja tego to fakt bo firmom az tak nie zalezy
[11:31] <jacekowski> jesli jestes z EU
[11:32] <jacekowski> badz szwajcari
[11:32] <jacekn> jacekowski: https://www.gov.uk/tax-foreign-income/residence
[11:32] <Spaulding> crusty: probuj ;) pelno jest takiej roboty
[11:32] <jacekn> 183 dni nie 180
[11:32] <jacekowski> jacekn: to jest tax residence
[11:32] <crusty> Spaulding: w Polsce i tak juลผ mam za duลผo roboty :P
[11:32] <jacekowski> jacekn: i to jest cos innego
[11:33] <crusty> a znaleลบฤย fajnฤ
pracฤย teลผ nie jest tak ลatwo
[11:33] <Spaulding> no nie jest ;P
[11:33] <Spaulding> teraz sie zabijaja o dobrych ludkow
[11:33] <jacekn> jacekowski: "Whether youโre UK resident usually depends on how many days you spend in the UK in the tax year"
[11:33] <Spaulding> brainly ciagle szuka
[11:33] <Spaulding> a znalem goscia stamtad
[11:33] <Spaulding> mowil ze syf... :)
[11:33] <jacekowski> jacekn: tax residence a residence to cos innego
[11:33] <jacekn> jacekowski: nie jestem prawnikiem nie bede sie klocic. Mowie co mi powiedzieli tutaj ksiegowi
[11:34] <Spaulding> w krk to jest pare opcji - akamai, sabree, luxoft
[11:34] <jacekowski> jacekn: amerykanie maja jeszcze lepsze prawo co do tego
[11:34] <jacekn> jacekowski: w przypadku zatrudnienia to raczej chodzi o tax residence prawda?
[11:34] <jacekn> Spaulding: gdzie w tej 5 strefie pracujesz?
[11:34] <jacekn> Spaulding: znaczy jaka okolica
[11:34] <jacekowski> jacekn: jesli jestes obywatelem usa to do celow podatkowych jestes rezydentem zawsze nawet jak nie mieskasz w usa, i placisz podatek od przychodow za granica
[11:34] <Spaulding> jacekn: bez stalkingu ;)
[11:34] <jacekowski> jacekn: tez
[11:34] <jacekowski> jacekn: ale to tylko do celow podatkowych
[11:35] <jacekn> jacekowski: no bo o tym rozmawiamy przeciez
[11:35] <jacekowski> jacekn: o to czy placisz podatki w UK czy nie
[11:35] <jacekn> a o USA wiem, pracuje w wieloma amerykanami co siedza w UK
[11:35] <jacekowski> jacekn: jesli nie mieszkasz w uk wystarczajaco duzo to nie musisz placic podatkow w uk
[11:35] <jacekn> jacekowski: ale firmy nie moga cie zatrudnic normalnie na etat, sa jakies problemy z tym
[11:36] <jacekowski> moga
[11:36] <crusty> nadal mรณwicie o pracy zdalnej?
[11:37] <jacekn> jacekowski: no to widocznie payroll sie mylil w tych dwoch
[11:37] <jacekowski> http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=460
[11:37] <jacekowski> jacekn: standardowe tutaj niestety
[11:37] <jacekowski> jacekn: nie wiedza jak to powiedza ze sie nie da
[11:37] <jacekowski> jacekn: albo im sie wydaje ze tak jest
[11:38] <jacekowski> jacekn: trzeba inne papierki wypelniac i udokumentowac ze tak jest
[11:38] <jacekn> jacekowski: ten link raczej nie potwierdza twojej wersji?
[11:38] <jacekowski> potwierdza
[11:39] <jacekn> jacekowski: "Jobseekers are also allowed to stay in another country while they are looking for a job"
[11:39] <jacekowski> bo masz, residence, tax residence i permanent residence
[11:39] <jacekn> ok czemu nie
[11:39] <jacekowski> residence otrzymujesz w momencie przekroczenia granicy
[11:39] <jacekn> jacekowski: musisz mi do pastebina wrzucic tekst z tego linku o ktorym mowisz bo nie widze
[11:40] <jacekowski> tax residence dostajesz jak mieszkasz wiecej niz 183 dni w roku w uk
[11:40] <jacekn> no tak
[11:40] <jacekowski> i to oznacza ze musisz placic podatki w uk
[11:40] <jacekowski> i jest jeszcze permanent residence - ktore dostajesz jesli mieszkales tutaj wiecej niz 5 lat
[11:40] <jacekn> tak
[11:41] <jacekn> ale jak to sie ma do etatu w UK bez tax residence? Ze dochodowego i NI ci nie odciagaja od pensji?
[11:41] <jacekowski> tak
[11:41] <jacekn> jacekowski: daj jakies zrodlo chce o tym poczytac
[11:42] <jacekowski> https://www.gov.uk/tax-right-retire-abroad-return-to-uk
[11:42] <jacekowski> https://www.gov.uk/tax-uk-income-live-abroad
[11:43] <jacekn> jacekowski: dzieki poczytam sobie
[11:43] <jacekowski> czesc podatku i tak musisz placic
[11:43] <jacekowski> ale nie wszystko
[11:43] <firemark> www.gov.uk ?
[11:44] <jacekowski> u nas jest zatrudniony chlop z filipin
[11:44] <firemark> fajna domena
[11:44] <jacekowski> prawa do pracy w UK nie ma
[11:44] <jacekowski> ale nie znaczy ze nie moze pracowac dla firmy z UK mieszkajac w filipinach
[11:47] <jacekowski> a np. w nowej zealandii i australii maja inny uklad
[11:48] <jacekowski> bo maja ich tam lokalna wymiane ludzi
[11:48] <jacekowski> i ktos z australii moze pojechac do nowej zealandii do pracy bez zadnych wiz itd. tak jak my mamy w EU
[11:48] <jacekowski> i na odwrot
[11:50] <jacekowski> ale podatki placa we wlasnym kraju
[17:26] <qermit> stirlitz ลผyjesz jeszcze?
[17:55] <elbow> czeลฤ
[18:03] <qermit> 6
[19:37] <firemark> i++
[19:38] <spass_> i--
[19:39] <TheNumb> ++i
[19:40] <gjm> --i
[19:41] <firemark> nie lubie was
[19:42] <gjm> a ja ciebie nie
[20:05] <Ashiren> i+-
[20:44] <spass_> nie ja ciebie a
[20:44] <spass_> ;D
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-kernel
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[12:17] <Kano> hi, will you update 4.2 to 4.2.5?
[12:18] <ohsix> heheh
[13:18] <apw> Kano, yes that will happen most likely in the next sru round
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.072034
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-05-#lubuntu-devel
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[12:57] <flexiondotorg> phillw, Glad you enjoyed it :-)
[12:58] <phillw> Yeah, the feed posted never dropped, even when you were saying people could not see / hear you!
[12:59] <phillw> And, for any future presentations, the lubuntu build works perfectly and is fit for release. I know you want to make another one; but that will become the 'test' release :)
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"flexiondotorg",
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu+1
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[00:36] <Fudge> yes please
[04:42] <Fudge> why is everyone so happy about the Mint images getting Orca, Mint is not that accessible
[09:31] <Fudge> wrong channel oops
[09:31] <Fudge> so still on the daily I get a busybox prompt, unable to find a filesystem I think the error is
[11:56] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.074170
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"BluesKaj",
"Fudge"
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2015-11-05-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[08:35] <handsome_feng> hi, everyone, sorry i'm latter
[08:36] <handsome_feng> late...
[08:38] <handsome_feng> marco ? eleni ?
[08:38] <Trevinho> hi handsome_feng
[08:38] <handsome_feng> hi :)
[08:39] <Trevinho> Ah, we have a meeting to day... But time changed here, so in theory it was in in 1 hour
[08:39] <Trevinho> is that too late for you?
[08:41] <handsome_feng> er , yes, maybe we can make this meeting tomoro ?
[08:41] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: no, well it's fine for me now...
[08:41] <Trevinho> I'm going to change the event
[08:43] <handsome_feng> OK
[08:43] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: it's 16:30 there, right?
[08:43] <handsome_feng> yes
[08:43] <Trevinho> err, 16:43... :P
[08:44] <handsome_feng> ...
[08:45] <handsome_feng> you are right
[08:46] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: no problem, let's do this quick and informal, there's no problem
[08:46] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: or.... I don't know... what's the best plan
[08:47] <handsome_feng> best plan of wizard ?
[08:48] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: so, I didn't get anything back from the design, let me ask willcooke
[08:48] <Trevinho> Ouch, he's still not online...
[08:48] <Trevinho> So, well I'll ask him later
[08:48] <handsome_feng> @Trevinho OK, no problem
[08:48] <Trevinho> However, I'd say your design is mostly fine. You can proceed with that, at least the logic part... Then if we need to tune the UI there's time.
[08:49] <Trevinho> Ah, you need to handle also multi-monitor, I'd do the same as it's done in the lockscreen...
[08:49] <Trevinho> So show that view in the monitor where's the pointer is
[08:50] <handsome_feng> OK, Got this
[08:51] <handsome_feng> Hi, willcooke
[08:52] <willcooke> hi handsome_feng
[08:52] <handsome_feng> we are just talk about the wizard
[08:52] <Trevinho> willcooke: hey, did you get anything back from John/design about the wizard?
[08:52] <willcooke> Not quite yet, but they are due to review "real soon now"
[08:52] <willcooke> I will chase him now and see if I can get a time line
[08:53] <Trevinho> nice
[08:54] <handsome_feng> Thank you , so let's wait :)
[08:57] <handsome_feng> marco, anything else about the lockscreen ?
[08:58] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: no, I've seen you're still working on it... Are you already ready for a review?
[08:59] <handsome_feng> I have not write the autopilot test ...
[09:00] <Trevinho> Well, those are a little hard to do in the lockscreen, you can add some unit-tests if you want
[09:00] <Trevinho> but autopilot is complicated there
[09:00] <handsome_feng> And also should handle some detals
[09:00] <Trevinho> Ok, fine... Once you're ok, feel free to propose the merge request, and I'll review it
[09:01] <Trevinho> I've seen some progress also in the launcher rotation...
[09:01] <handsome_feng> Yes, I just add the option about launcher position
[09:01] <Trevinho> Ah, one thing I've seen there that you should change: you added a sigc::signal<void> launcher_position_changed;
[09:02] <Trevinho> But you don't need that... just use nux::RWProperty<LauncherPosition> launcher_position; (just use nux::Property)
[09:02] <Trevinho> and that gives you the signal for free
[09:02] <Trevinho> so you can just do
[09:02] <Trevinho> launcher_position.changed.connect() ...
[09:03] <Trevinho> Also, maybe, instead of using LauncherWidth/LauncherHeight, we can just use LauncherSize at this point
[09:03] <handsome_feng> er, i put it there and just forget it ...
[09:03] <Trevinho> You rename that value and use for both the cases.
[09:03] <handsome_feng> ok, i have do this in some small functions
[09:05] <Trevinho> good
[09:05] <Trevinho> Ah, I wanted to mention that the list of bugs we want to target for 16.04, have now been moved to
[09:05] <Trevinho> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[09:06] <Trevinho> The same as searching for the "rls-x-incoming" tag in launchpad, but shows all the projects involved
[09:06] <handsome_feng> And i should use launcher_position.changed to info the dash/launcher/panel to redraw , right ?
[09:06] <Trevinho> So,. if you think there's anything important, you can just tag with that
[09:06] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: yep
[09:06] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: that property will both allow you to handle the value, and being notified when changed
[09:07] <handsome_feng> Trevinho: Thank you , got it
[09:07] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: you can look for examples around in the code, it's all quite easy
[09:08] <handsome_feng> ok , i just learn from the code too
[09:08] <Trevinho> Just remember that if you use lambda_functions to connect to signals, you need to disconnect from them (using a connnection::wrapper or a connection::manager)... Otherwise you might experience crashes.
[09:08] <Trevinho> In xenial there's also the sigc::track_obj feature, but it's probably too early to use it.
[09:10] <handsome_feng> oh, write it down in my notebook
[09:13] <handsome_feng> Thank you for your advise , seems all things have discussed
[09:14] <handsome_feng> maybe we can wrap this up?
[09:17] <Trevinho> handsome_feng: yeah, sorry... I got int a bug :P... However yes
[09:17] <Trevinho> I think we're done.
[09:17] <Trevinho> Thanks
[09:18] <handsome_feng> Thanks ! and bye ! maro :)
[09:18] <handsome_feng> bye, willcooke !
[09:18] <willcooke> see you
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-irc
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[19:25] <popey> Pici, thanks for making sure the irc stuff went smoothly for uos!
[19:32] <Pici> popey: no problem :)
[20:00] * genii tosses confetti around and hands out cookies
[21:31] <c> yay cookies
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.080245
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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"Pici",
"c",
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2015-11-05-#maas
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[00:27] <mup> Bug #1513271 opened: Unable to unmount a filesystem in the UI <storage> <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513271>
[07:33] <nitin_> hello
[07:34] <nitin_> i have set up a MAAS server with 2 nodes as ready
[07:34] <nitin_> but failing while running "juju bootstrap"
[07:35] <nitin_> can anybody help me?
[08:28] <mup> Bug #1513373 opened: Cannot modify the default VLAN for a fabric <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513373>
[08:53] <mup> Bug #1513379 opened: Cannot unset class_type for a fabric once set. <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513379>
[09:29] <mup> Bug #1513391 opened: unexpected hover on subnets page <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513391>
[09:29] <mup> Bug #1513392 opened: radiobuttons should be orange <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513392>
[09:32] <mup> Bug #1513373 changed: Cannot modify the default VLAN for a fabric <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513373>
[09:35] <mup> Bug #1513373 opened: Cannot modify the default VLAN for a fabric <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513373>
[09:59] <mup> Bug #1513373 changed: Cannot modify the default VLAN for a fabric <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513373>
[10:32] <mup> Bug #1513413 opened: IP assignment for devices inconsistent with interfaces on nodes <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513413>
[11:26] <mup> Bug #1513432 opened: Cannot unset a space for a subnet once set <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513432>
[11:50] <mup> Bug #1513432 changed: Cannot unset a space for a subnet once set <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513432>
[11:53] <mup> Bug #1513432 opened: Cannot unset a space for a subnet once set <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513432>
[11:56] <mup> Bug #1513432 changed: Cannot unset a space for a subnet once set <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513432>
[14:27] <mup> Bug #1513379 changed: Cannot unset class_type for a fabric once set. <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513379>
[14:27] <mup> Bug #1513485 opened: Commissioning doesn't update the IP of PXE interface UI, maybe due to lease parser failure <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513485>
[15:30] <mup> Bug #1513506 opened: Storage table row interaction <ui> <MAAS:New for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513506>
[15:30] <mup> Bug #1513507 opened: Storage table row interaction <ui> <MAAS:New for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513507>
[15:33] <mup> Bug #1513506 changed: Storage table row interaction <ui> <MAAS:New for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513506>
[15:33] <mup> Bug #1513507 changed: Storage table row interaction <ui> <MAAS:New for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513507>
[15:36] <mup> Bug #1513506 opened: Storage table row interaction <ui> <MAAS:New for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513506>
[15:36] <mup> Bug #1513507 opened: Storage table row interaction <ui> <MAAS:New for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513507>
[20:06] <stokachu> urthmover:
[20:06] <stokachu> this is what i have so far
[20:06] <stokachu> [15:04] <mpontillo> stokachu: what do you mean when you say "inside" vcenter? yes, you can host the MAAS server on VMware - as long as it has the connectivity it needs to the clusters
[20:06] <stokachu> [15:04] <mpontillo> stokachu: if you're talking about "add hardware > chassis", it should work with 1.8 too
[20:07] <stokachu> [15:05] <mpontillo> stokachu: the thing you need to be careful about is to make sure the VMware user that MAAS uses only has permission to access the nodes you want to make into MAAS-managed nodes. (or use the prefix filter option to restrict it based on the VM name.)
[20:07] <stokachu> [15:06] <mpontillo> stokachu: that should be fine
[20:07] <stokachu> [15:06] <mpontillo> stokachu: I just wanted to give you that word of warning, because when you do probe-and-enlist (aka "Add Hardware > Chassis"), MAAS will reconfigure any VMs it finds through the VMware API so that they PXE boot
[20:07] <stokachu> urthmover: ^
[20:07] * mpontillo didn't realize there was a discussion going on here, sorry =)
[20:07] <stokachu> mpontillo: nah it started in #juju
[20:07] <urthmover> stokachu: ok I read that on the docs or wiki yesterday about chassis taking over every guest
[20:07] <urthmover> thank you stokachu a bunch
[20:07] <stokachu> urthmover: np
[20:08] <mpontillo> urthmover: ping me if you have questions.
[20:08] <urthmover> mpontillo: in chan or priv?
[20:08] <urthmover> mpontillo: chan is fine with me :)
[20:08] <mpontillo> urthmover: yeah keep it in #maas please so stokachu or others can jump in if needed
[20:10] <stokachu> urthmover: if you have other questions with the OpenStack Installer you can ping me or mmcc (he's in #ubuntu-server)
[20:10] <urthmover> mpontillo: At this point I do not have cli or api access to the vmware vcenter server. I do have vcenter access using the fatclient. I am able to build guests, mount disks, etc. How do I handle the power aspects of using MAAS with my seemly limited access to the hypervisor?
[20:11] <mpontillo> urthmover: hm, it's weird that the fat client would work but not an API client; I thought it used the same API
[20:12] <urthmover> mpontillo: currently I've built a maas/juju environment locally using vmware fusion. I've had topower on the guests manually throughout the process of installing everything
[20:12] <mpontillo> urthmover: unfortunately, API access is a requirement if you want to use the VMware power control driver. VMware fusion, unfortunately, doesn't work - it does not provide the API. the cheapest version of VMware that supports it is VMware Workstation
[20:12] <mpontillo> urthmover: although I think you could convince the free version of ESXi to work (even without vSphere, etc), given enough time/effort
[20:13] <urthmover> mpontillo: it is wierd, but the hosting provider has attempted to curb my permissions on the environment so that they feel they have some sort of control, to make their support easier. The dumb part is we are the only tenants on this cluster (but that's another story)
[20:14] <urthmover> mpontillo: if I am unable to gain access to the api, do you think I should build a KVM cluster inside the vmware environment, then build MAAS on top of that...etc
[20:14] <mpontillo> urthmover: well, I don't understand how you could use the fat client to turn on/off machines, but the API wouldn't work. it should be making the same calls. I'd file a support ticket?
[20:14] <mpontillo> urthmover: you could do it that way too. I assume this is just for demo purposes then?
[20:15] <mpontillo> urthmover: if you want to try ESXi, I found this blog post helpful - http://blog.mywarwithentropy.com/2013/12/configuration-esxi-55-from-command-line.html
[20:15] <urthmover> mpontillo: this is testing, that will eventually become production ....I think I'll go down the path of testing api access and demanding it before I clutter up this design with too many embedded hypervisors
[20:16] <mpontillo> urthmover: also, regarding ESXi, I have these commands written in my notes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13115403/ (I was trying to figure out how to create additional networks for the VMs to use using "bare ESXi")
[20:17] <urthmover> mpontillo: thank you I'll work with those commands and the syntax to see if I have some sort of api access
[20:17] <mpontillo> urthmover: the bottom line for me is, if you can point an official VMware client (such as adding it as a server in Fusion), MAAS should work with it.
[20:18] <urthmover> mpontillo: I hear that and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I can....give me a few to test and I'll update you and the chan
[20:18] <urthmover> mpontillo: thank you for your time so far btw
[20:18] <mpontillo> urthmover: thanks, good luck.
[20:18] * urthmover scampers off
[21:31] <mup> Bug #1513506 changed: Storage table row interaction <ui> <MAAS:New for ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513506>
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-unity
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[08:25] <Saviq> mzanetti-, kgunn, silo 21 ready for QA
[08:25] <kgunn> awesome! enjoy vacation Saviq
[08:26] <Saviq> not just yet! ;)
[08:26] <Saviq> but will, thanks
[08:29] <kgunn> oh...one more day
[08:29] <Saviq> that's assuming that Lufthansa's flight attendants strike that's starting tomorrow won't make it difficult (their association is "UFO" btw)
[08:33] <kgunn> :)
[10:12] <pstolowski> Trevinho, ping
[10:13] <Trevinho> pstolowski: pong
[10:13] <pstolowski> Trevinho, hey Marco!
[10:13] <Trevinho> pstolowski: hey
[10:13] <pstolowski> Trevinho, i've just learned yesterday about the plans of abandoning software center in 16.04
[10:14] <Trevinho> pstolowski: yeah, so it seems the case if we can get gnome sw center in shape for us
[10:14] <pstolowski> Trevinho, do you know what's the plan for the legacy App lens scope with regard to that change? there is a dependency on a software-center bit for previews of apps from the store
[10:14] <pstolowski> Trevinho, and this is a significant bit of code in Apps lens affected by any change like that
[10:15] <Trevinho> pstolowski: mh, not sure... I think you should ask more to robert_ancell
[10:15] <Trevinho> pstolowski: yeah, i was wondering that, but also the idea was to remove some support to install stuff from the dash, if that didn't work with g-s-c
[10:15] <Trevinho> willcooke: do you have further infos about that ^
[10:16] <pstolowski> Trevinho, yeah, i thought that too... changing apps scope would require significant effort.
[10:19] <willcooke> We'd need to speak to Robert
[10:19] <willcooke> it's still early days
[10:19] <willcooke> Does the lens use USC specifically, or does it use the xapian(?) database?
[10:20] <willcooke> seb128 fyi ^
[10:20] <pstolowski> willcooke, it uses xapian AND a helper python service exposed by u-s-c to get some extra data
[10:20] * tsdgeos wonders if we broke the dash header color setting and noone realized
[10:20] <seb128> willcooke, I mentioned it during the session yesterday
[10:21] <seb128> willcooke, I think we overlooked the fact that the dash was using s-c bits when we suggested that we could drop s-c now
[10:23] <willcooke> seb128, could you comment on the thread between you, me, laney, robert?
[10:24] <seb128> k
[10:28] <seb128> willcooke, done
[10:32] <willcooke> thx seb128
[10:36] <cimi> ltinkl: ping
[11:47] <kgunn> Saviq: what is the pkg or lp project for the app store login page ?
[11:47] <kgunn> ubuntuone?
[12:07] <davmor2> kgunn: login is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client
[12:08] <kgunn> davmor2: ta
[12:33] <dandrader> mzanetti-, if an application is not "touch" it means it's "legacy"?
[12:34] <mzanetti-> yes, as per the prereq branch
[12:35] <dandrader> so how do I make a desktop-only (mouse and keyboard) application that is not "legacy"?
[12:36] <dandrader> greyback, ^
[12:37] <greyback> dandrader: we have no means to specify "desktop-only"
[12:37] <mzanetti-> heh, yeah... there is no such thing as "desktop-only"
[12:38] <greyback> yet
[12:38] <mzanetti-> you might be able to restrict the app to mouse input only, or minimum screen size
[12:39] <mzanetti-> but yes... isTouchApp is probably not the best term
[12:40] <dandrader> reminds me of windows 8 disaster where the desktop was touch-oriented
[12:40] <mzanetti-> otoh... do you think by the time we're ready there will be screens without touch?
[13:12] <mariogrip> what is "Ubuntu Pocket Desktop"? i just saw it on the cdimage server.
[13:34] <dandrader> mterry, is there a simple way to launch an app and have it not be considered a touch app by qtmir?
[13:34] <mterry> dandrader, once silo 21 lands, don' set X-Ubuntu-Touch=true (but only if you're not submitting to store)
[13:35] <mterry> dandrader, (in your desktop file)
[13:35] <dandrader> mterry, ah cool. A just need lp:~mterry/qtmir/no-touch-no-lifecycle and its dependencies, right?
[13:36] <dandrader> s/A/I
[13:36] <mterry> dandrader, yup
[13:36] <mterry> dandrader, those branches will turn off lifecycle management. Other branches we have lying around may do other things based on that info
[13:36] <Saviq> dandrader, best use silo 21 as-is, and https://code.launchpad.net/~ci-train-bot/unity8/ as base
[13:37] <mterry> Saviq, we still trying to land silo 21 for OTA8?
[13:37] <Saviq> mterry, made it QA ready this morning, hope so
[13:37] <mterry> (or was that never the plan?)
[13:37] <mterry> Saviq, oh awesome
[13:37] <mterry> Saviq, I want some of those fixes for my daily device :)
[13:37] <Saviq> mterry, I know ;)
[13:38] <Saviq> should be good, finally
[18:02] <mzanetti-> dandrader|afk, https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/move-screenshots-to-tests/+merge/276798
[18:20] <dandrader> mzanetti-, where's my mouseEdgePush review?
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.091813
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-05-#ubuntustudio
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[03:20] <RedBlue> hello. Where can release notes /update packages list for Ubuntu Studio 14.04.3?
[03:21] <RedBlue> *can I find
[07:46] <unicornjedi> hello
[17:24] <studio-user493> Bonjour, je suis en train de rรฉinstaller unbuntu studio car ma partition /boot รฉtait trop petite et je n'arrivais pas ร modifier les tailles de partitions dans gpartaed. Seulement, quand je rรฉinstalle ubuntu, la parttion /boot fait toujours la mรชme taille. Je ne trouve pas oรน, dans le cd d'intallation, l'on peut dimensionner les partitions. Quelqu'un pourrait-i m'aider ? Merci
[17:27] <studio-user493> I will try to explain in english if nobody speack french? I would like to know how I can adjust the sizes of the partitions because my /boot is too small. Even if I install agin Ubuntu studio, its the same small size. thank you
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-tw
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[14:25] <KEVIN00222> .
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.097879
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[09:53] <rmg51> Morning
[10:58] <JonathanD> Good morning.
[11:09] <rmg51> o/
[13:20] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[13:26] <jackson> Good morngthibg Pixgurgh
[13:27] <lazypower> \o
[13:28] <jackson> o//
[13:30] <jackson> undo the STEALERS
[13:32] <jackson> thats all i need fore christams
[14:14] <lazypower> ssweeny: hows things on your side of the org?
[14:15] <ssweeny> lazypower, things are going great
[14:15] <ssweeny> phones be phonin'
[14:15] <ssweeny> how is life in the cloud?
[14:19] <lazypower> Clouds be cloudin'
[14:19] <lazypower> Lots of new features this last cycle
[14:19] <lazypower> Network partition modelling, storage, reactive framework + charm layers
[14:19] <lazypower> Charms are getting skeeeeny
[14:20] <lazypower> ssweeny: 2 factor web app - ghostblog. This is a reactive + layers rewrite - https://github.com/battlemidget/juju-layer-ghost
[14:22] <ssweeny> that's pretty slick
[14:22] <ssweeny> I've actually been contemplating a move from WP to ghost
[16:09] <lazypower> ssweeny I've been running static generators for my blog because i really dont need a backend... i rarely update content thats published
[16:09] <lazypower> gohugo.io
[16:22] <ssweeny> very fancy
[16:22] <ssweeny> and of course there's a static site generator written in go :)
[16:25] <lazypower> Its silly fast
[16:25] <lazypower> generates ~ 1k pages sub-second
[16:28] <ssweeny> silly fast is right
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.100535
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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"JonathanD",
"jackson",
"lazypower",
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"ssweeny",
"teddy-dbear"
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-news
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[22:28] <ahoneybun> hey pleia2 or jose I sent an email from the Membership Board about our newest member, can you please push it though? thanks!
[22:30] <pleia2> ahoneybun: yep, sent it through
[22:30] <ahoneybun> thanks
[22:30] <pleia2> ahoneybun: if you want to subscribe, you can set it to not deliver messages but you can post to the list
[22:31] <ahoneybun> mm
[22:31] <pleia2> ahoneybun: and for future reference, putting the date on the announcement helps :) like https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2015-October/002331.html
[22:31] <pleia2> then we can just copy/paste without any guessing
[22:31] <ahoneybun> sorry I was just rushing
[22:32] <pleia2> no worries, I'm glad that it was sent at all
[22:32] <ahoneybun> the damn log is not working or something on the list
[22:32] <pleia2> ?
[22:32] <ahoneybun> login
[22:32] <ahoneybun> where can I subscribe?
[22:33] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team
[22:35] <ahoneybun> and I'm in
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.102633
| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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"ahoneybun",
"pleia2"
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-gr
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[08:19] <Black_Horseman> meres
[17:00] <Euaki> ฮฮญฮฑ ฮฑฯฯ ubuntusecurity: USN-2793-1: LibreOffice vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2793-1/>
[17:21] <Euaki> ฮฮญฮฑ ฮฑฯฯ ubuntusecurity: USN-2795-1: Linux kernel (Trusty HWE) vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2795-1/> || USN-2794-1: Linux kernel vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2794-1/> || USN-2792-1: Linux kernel vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2792-1/>
[19:07] <Euaki> ฮฮญฮฑ ฮฑฯฯ ubuntusecurity: USN-2799-1: Linux kernel vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2799-1/> || USN-2798-1: Linux kernel (Vivid HWE) vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2798-1/> || USN-2797-1: Linux kernel (Utopic HWE) vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2797-1/> || USN-2796-1: Linux kernel (OMAP4) vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2796-1/>
[23:59] <chek2fire> ฯฮฑฮนฮดฮนฮฌ ฮณฮนฮฑ ฮตฮณฮบฮฑฯฮฌฯฯฮฑฯฮท ฯฮฟฯ
android sdk ฮณฮฏฮฝฮตฯฮต ฮผฯฮฝฮฟ manual?
[23:59] <chek2fire> ฯฮน ฮตฮฏฮฝฮฑฮน ฮฑฯ
ฯฮฌ ฯฮฑ ฯฮฑฮบฮญฯฮฑ ฯฮฟฯ
ฯ
ฯฮฌฯฯฮฟฯ
ฮฝ ฯฯฮฑ repositories?
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-community-team
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[00:14] <pleia2> wxl: thanks :)
[00:14] <wxl> np, pleia2 :)
[08:51] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[09:56] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:56] <czajkowski> davidcalle: https://twitter.com/Czajkowski/status/662204831331983364
[09:56] <czajkowski> they do in fact exist :p
[09:58] <davidcalle> czajkowski, pains au chocolat! Fresh out of the oven? Do you *really* want me to hate you? :p
[09:59] <czajkowski> *nyom* nyom* sorry what did you say *nyom*
[10:02] <davidcalle> czajkowski, I hope they still have a lava-temperature chocolate core. :p
[10:03] <czajkowski> melting in the mouth :)
[12:03] * dholbach relocates to the office, brb
[12:30] <dpm> dholbach, mhall119, davidcalle, popey, balloons, I'll be afk for ~1h, but back in time for the start. Could you promote the last day on the main Ubuntu social accounts?
[12:30] <dpm> balloons, all set for the closing plenaries? Plenary scheduled in summit too?
[13:18] <balloons> I guess we need a session for that and slap it in there
[13:20] <balloons> We need someone around at 1500 for the mycroft session. davidcalle and i will both be occupied
[13:42] <balloons> czajkowski or hggdh going to be around ?
[13:47] * dholbach won't be available :-/
[13:49] * davidcalle relocates home for UOS*, brb
[13:50] <dpm> thanks balloons
[13:55] <czajkowski> balloons: sup
[13:56] <balloons> czajkowski, howdy. So in 1 hour, we're having a mycroft session on the track, but no one is around to help Ryan set it up and make sure everything goes ok. Will you be around to help?
[13:56] <czajkowski> balloons: aye can do what's needed, be on irc
[13:56] <czajkowski> or soemthing else ?
[13:56] <popey> balloons, i can do it
[13:57] <czajkowski> coolio
[13:57] <czajkowski> was going to attempt to silence bash and all :)
[13:58] <balloons> popey, thanks
[14:07] <balloons> mhall119, are you summarizing the convergence track?
[14:08] <balloons> mhall119, also if you have notes about UOS in general (how many people, # of sessions, etc), please add it to the track summaries document
[14:08] <mhall119> balloons: I will over lunch today, yes
[14:08] <balloons> mhall119, I mean you will present it as well right during the closing ceremonies?
[14:09] <mhall119> yes
[14:19] <jcastro> hey guys
[14:19] <jcastro> my summary will be shirt/tiny/list of urls
[14:19] <jcastro> all our stuff was like workshops and demos
[14:26] <czajkowski> I'd like a shirt too :)
[14:37] <jcastro> I will have shirts for fosdem. :D
[14:41] <jose> jcastro: GIMME
[14:54] <popey> balloons, mycroft ryan is all set
[14:54] <balloons> ack, thanks gaina
[14:55] <balloons> *again
[14:56] <popey> np
[15:13] <czajkowski> jcastro: I shall have to send you a tshirt so!
[15:14] <jcastro> are you coming?
[15:14] <jcastro> to fosdem I mean
[15:19] <czajkowski> yes
[15:19] <czajkowski> :D
[15:19] <czajkowski> I've missed it once in 10 years
[15:19] <czajkowski> and I was exceptionally sick last year!
[15:19] <czajkowski> never again!
[15:42] <dpm> balloons, I've prescheduled the track summary session as the Ubuntu On Air summit, updated ubuntuonair.com and the summit page. You should now be able to hit start as the G+ Ubuntu On Air user, and the presenters can join with the link in the summary doc
[15:43] <popey> nice!
[15:43] <balloons> woot
[15:43] * balloons hugs daker
[15:43] * balloons hugs dpm
[15:43] * dpm hugs back :)
[15:44] * daker hugs balloons too :p
[15:47] <balloons> hugs for everyone :-)
[15:48] <davidcalle> popey, can you help pstolowski for starting the Introduction to scopes session?
[15:49] <popey> uh, okay.
[15:49] <davidcalle> popey, or anyone else from your track :)
[15:49] <popey> nah, it's all good :)
[15:51] <czajkowski> mhall119: you're missing frm the CC channel
[15:52] <popey> done
[15:59] <balloons> mhall119, popey, davidcalle, dpm, dholbach not sure how many of you can / will join http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22622/future-plans-for-uos/, but https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYdVv1skwyyfr7QPHAg3Y7g_1Fu59XAPbHFZDRnpcXD0ycJUzg?hl=en&authuser=1
[15:59] <dholbach> in a session
[15:59] <dholbach> sorry
[15:59] <popey> i plan to
[15:59] <popey> but helping others atm
[15:59] <dpm> balloons, I'll join. I was actually going to start it, so good you did already :)
[15:59] <dpm> balloons, will join in a minute once I've sent this e-mail
[16:00] <mhall119> balloons: let me make sure my convergence session is running okay and I'll join
[16:02] <dpm> balloons, omw
[17:07] <dpm> hi daker, around?
[17:09] <daker> dpm: hi
[17:11] <dpm> daker, there's a session coming up that you might be interested in, for the API integration part on loco.ubuntu.com: "Meetup.com for LoCo teams"
[17:11] <dpm> in 50 mins at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22618/meetupcom-for-loco-teams
[17:11] <dpm> or on #ubuntu-uos-community if you're interested to join in
[17:11] <daker> dpm: i'll try to join the irc and follow the session
[17:12] <dpm> great
[17:29] <hggdh> sorry, life got in the way, and we have a few dr appointments from Monday on.
[17:39] * dpm hugs hggdh
[17:43] * dholbach hugs hggdh too
[17:47] * hggdh hugs everybody (and get ready for one more dr appointment)
[18:25] <pleia2> is anyone interested in writing up a basic wrap up of the UOS for the newsletter? I'm imagining something like, link to mark's keynote, link to jane's Q&A, link to track summaries video and "here's where you can find the rest of the videos about $foo, $bar, etc"
[18:26] <mhall119> pleia2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TVyB5jZDHbhVOzng_v9vuUZMYsuecd62ZEbS5K3RBJg/edit has most of the info, just needs to be edited/formatted
[18:26] <pleia2> mhall119: requested access
[18:27] <mhall119> pleia2: or maybe just link to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/all/
[18:27] <wxl> well the newsletter does tend to be more textual :)
[18:27] <pleia2> mhall119: I was asking for someone to actually write this up :) I know how to find the links to all the things
[18:27] <pleia2> wxl: ++
[18:28] <pleia2> I don't really have time this week to do it justice
[18:28] <pleia2> and with no one blogging about summits anymore to give summaries, UWN has been very very lean on coverage these past couple years
[18:29] <popey> jcastro, does askubuntu still have that "make an advert for your thing, and it appears on the site" thing?
[18:29] <pleia2> so far all we have are a couple articles from softpedia and omgubuntu
[18:29] <mhall119> pleia2: where would somebody send such a writeup to get it on the newsletter?
[18:29] <pleia2> mhall119: the prep google doc http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[18:29] <pleia2> I created a [18:30] <popey> found it http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/12379/community-promotion-ads-2015
[18:30] <mhall119> pleia2: I'll try and do that after the summary plenary, but I can't promise anything
[18:30] <pleia2> mhall119: thanks
[18:30] <mhall119> thank me if I do it :)
[18:32] <jcastro> popey: yeah gimme a minute to find it
[18:32] <jcastro> http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/12379/community-promotion-ads-2015
[18:32] <pleia2> hopefully someone can, would be a shame to let all the effort that goes into UOS go unreported to our community again
[18:32] <jcastro> popey: ^
[18:34] <popey> jcastro, does it reset on jan 1?
[18:38] <jcastro> popey: they usually do but like all you do is C&P the old one into the new one
[18:47] <popey> jcastro, and starts with all new adverts, so those at 32 votes can be usurped?
[18:49] <jcastro> it only needs 10 to make the rotation
[18:49] <jcastro> if you have 11 your ad isn't shown any less than the one with 50
[18:55] <popey> ahhh
[19:41] <balloons> so we should upboat popey's promo ad?
[19:41] <popey> not yet
[19:41] <popey> doesn't exist yet
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-hr
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[04:13] <jobenty> dobro jutro
[04:16] <jobenty> Imam AVerTV Digi Super 007 TV karticu u raฤunalu. Mogu li to iskorisiti za gledanje TV na linuxu?
[04:19] <jobenty> http://avertv.avermedia.com/Product/ProductDetail.aspx?Id=21
[04:24] <jobenty> Instalirao sam linux mint i 17.2 KDE i zadovoljan sam jedino je video na youtube zeru sporiji nego na ubuntu ali skoro da se i ne primjeti. Imam na viksi joลก starije raฤunalo mislim Pentium3 na 800MHz koje sluลพi samo kao mp3 player pa ฤu na njega probati Mint XFce.
[06:38] <chaky> jobenty: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia
[06:42] <hbogner> o/
[07:43] <hbogner> wtf, mountam ext4 disk i on ima konstantni write 6 mega u sekundi
[07:55] <dodobas> yutro
[07:55] <dodobas> jel koristis ubuntu ?
[07:55] <jobenty> jutro
[07:56] <jobenty> moลพe li netko pogledati ovaj link ลกto je chaky stavio
[07:56] <dodobas> nope
[07:56] <dodobas> ne klikcem na njegove linkove
[07:56] <jobenty> ja neznam ลกto bih trebao raditi s tim
[07:57] <hbogner> dodobas, da, koristim ubuntu :D
[08:02] <dodobas> hbogner: e to ti je klasicni ubuntu problem ...
[08:03] <hbogner> eto meni prvi susret s ovim
[08:04] <jobenty> hbogner
[08:04] <jobenty> prvi susret s ฤim?
[08:06] <BotaniCar> https://youtu.be/EnFEcSOGg18 #frend izdao novi singl :)
[08:06] <datase> YouTube: Genotika - Na putu tvom - 0:04:19 - 25 views - 1 likes / 0 dislikes
[08:07] <hbogner> jobenty, e tim da mi disk konstantno ima write 6 mega u sekundi
[08:09] <jelly> hbogner: atop, ili iotop u ruke, i vidi jel se vidi od kojeg procesa to stiลพe
[08:13] <jobenty> zna li netko kakav je to folder
[08:13] <jobenty> lost+found
[08:13] * BotaniCar tak' mrzi atop na centosu
[08:14] <jelly> [...] lost+found is a directory where recovered information (bits of files usually) goes after repairing an ext{2,3,4} or XFS filesystem. Created by mklost+found or xfs_repair.
[08:14] <jobenty> ok sps
[08:14] <jobenty> sad sam sloลพio particije ovako
[08:15] <hbogner> jelly, dstat i gkrellm kazu konstantno 6 mega u sekundi, iotop kaze da nema nista takvo
[08:15] <jelly> hbogner: a... iostat -mx 1 ?
[08:16] <jobenty> 10GB /, 453GB home, 4GB swap. Jeli to uredu
[08:17] <BotaniCar> 10GB root partition ? Ja bi bio izdasan , tak da ti se ne desi da logovi ili neka baza zapune disk prek' noci
[08:17] <jelly> jobenty: to je pomalo blesavo. Ako se koristi LVM, stavi mali /home od kajjanznam 40GB i naknadno poslije povecaj di treba
[08:18] <BotaniCar> Sigurno je mmiketa slusao :D
[08:18] <jobenty> ma nisam nikoga sluลกao
[08:18] <jobenty> traลพio sam po netu i tako mi se ฤinilo najbolje
[08:18] <jobenty> taj hard je od 500 GB
[08:18] <jelly> za radnu stanicu ili laptop, ne treba ลกtedit na /, stavi 20GB bar
[08:19] <jobenty> ajd nek mi netko napiลกe kako je najbolje
[08:19] <jelly> ili sve na jedan filesystem
[08:19] <jobenty> sve je na ext4
[08:19] <jobenty> obrisao sam sve particije koje su prije bile na tom hardu
[08:20] <jobenty> i ponovo particionirao i formatirao svaku
[08:20] <BotaniCar> jobenty: nemoj se uzrujavati oko nasih komentara, ako nisi iskusan u definiranjuvlastitih potreba ne gine ti koje reparticoniranje. Ako ne znas sta i kak, ja bi sve turio u jednu particiju. Kasnije mozes vidjeti koliko ti sto zaista trosi pa napraviti dedicirane particije.
[08:20] <jelly> to je vrsta filesystema, ali si odabrao razdijelit podatke na posebno /home i posebno sve ostalo
[08:21] <jelly> (a kad velimo "sve" mislimo "sve na / osim swap koji mora biti posebno")
[08:21] <jobenty> da svap nije ext4
[08:21] <jobenty> ok toliko sam skuลพio u ovih par dana
[08:21] <jobenty> hmm swap
[08:22] <jobenty> i sad mi taj mint kde 17.2 radi bolje nego ubuntu
[08:22] <BotaniCar> To si ti spustio ocekivanja :)
[08:23] <BotaniCar> jelly: zakaj da ne turi swap kao file ? Ionak' se za nadati da ga nece trosit'
[08:23] <jobenty> a imam pitanje oko tog swapa
[08:23] <jobenty> treba li ga napraviti toฤno 2x veฤeg
[08:24] <jobenty> ako je 1 gb 1024 mb
[08:24] <BotaniCar> jobenty: koliko imas RAM-a ?
[08:24] <jobenty> 2gb
[08:24] <BotaniCar> Kajaznam, ja bi mu dao gigu-dvije, ne vise
[08:25] <jobenty> to znaฤi da bi swap bio 4096MB
[08:25] <jelly> jobenty: stavi 4GB, isto koliko ฤeลก imati memorije kad poveฤaลก na 4 :-)
[08:25] <jelly> ako se radi o laptopu
[08:25] <jobenty> a nemoลพe na ovu ploฤu stati viลกe
[08:25] <jobenty> he
[08:25] <vileni> za 2gb rama bi i ja stavio 4 swapa
[08:25] <jobenty> ma da pitao sam u vezi tog 1024
[08:26] <jobenty> 1024MB
[08:26] <vileni> nije nuzno biti precizan
[08:26] <jobenty> ok hvala
[08:26] <jelly> jobenty: swap sluลพi za dvije stvari: 1) da se ne koristi u normalnom radu i 2) za hibernaciju
[08:26] <hbogner> jeli: "iostat -mx 1" daje http://jebo.me/pas/5k
[08:26] <hbogner> on kaze 6 mega
[08:27] <jelly> a za hibernaciju ti treba cca koliko imaลก memorije
[08:27] <jobenty> ima li ovdje puno posla za podeลกavanje?
[08:27] <jobenty> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_AVerTV_DVB-T_Super_007
[08:29] <jelly> hbogner: onda to valjda radi kernel iz nekog razloga. kaj veli lsblk, jel se sdb koristi kao dio nekog drugog logickog uredjaja
[08:30] <jobenty> kada hoฤu nekome neลกto reฤi moram li svaki puta tipkati taj nick ili mogu kliknuti na nick?
[08:31] <jelly> poฤni pisati i pritisni Tab tipku
[08:31] <hbogner> sdb sam ustekao u komp, stavio ext4 na cjeli disk od 2tb
[08:31] <hbogner> i mountao ga na jednu loakciju
[08:31] <jelly> hbogner: kad si pokrenuo mkfs?
[08:31] <jobenty> ลกto da poฤnem pisati? Nick?
[08:31] <jelly> da
[08:32] <jelly> je<Tab>
[08:32] <jobenty> jelly: aha upiลกem prvo slovo i stiskam tab dok ne dobijem nick koji trebam
[08:32] <hbogner> mkfs.ext4 sam pokrenuo nakon sto sam kreirao edb1 preko fdisk-a
[08:32] <hbogner> *edb1/sdb1
[08:33] <hbogner> i cim sam mountao taj kreirani fs poceo je write
[08:34] <dodobas> hbogner: ma to ti ubuntu radi profil korisnika... pa skuplja informacije s novog uredjaja
[08:34] <dodobas> no worries
[08:35] <hbogner> ha hah a
[08:35] <jobenty> instalirate li vi sve te apdejte
[08:35] <jobenty> na linuxu
[08:35] <hbogner> jobenty, da
[08:35] <jobenty> pa juฤe sam instalirao
[08:35] <jobenty> ลกto moram danas opet
[08:35] <jobenty> :-)))
[08:36] <hbogner> jobenty, to ti nije kao windows update, ovdje ide update svaki put kad ima novosti
[08:36] <jelly> hbogner: to je ok. ext4 mkfs ne napravi sve ลกto treba odmah, tako da bude brลพe gotov. Onda kernel ima za dovrลกiti nakon iniciajlnog mounta.
[08:36] <hbogner> ahaaa
[08:36] <jelly> probaj napraviti ext3 iste veliฤine pa vidi koliko ฤe trajati...
[08:36] <hbogner> jelly, jel onda smijem sad po tome pisat
[08:38] <jelly> da
[08:39] <jobenty> Ima li netko instaliran Audacious?
[08:39] <jobenty> ili na ฤem sluลกate mp3-ce
[08:41] <hbogner> jobenty, ja ga doma koristim
[08:41] <jobenty> imam toliko pitanja da ne stignete na sve odgovoriti :-)
[08:41] <jelly> clementine
[08:41] <jelly> (u slobodnom prijevodu: MANDARINA)
[08:41] <jobenty> jelly: da vidio sam i taj
[08:43] <jobenty> hbogner: ima li kakve distorzije na zvuku?
[08:43] <BotaniCar> Pi*kustrininu, okruzen sam audiofilima :)
[08:43] <BotaniCar> jobenty: pa koliko je vrijedna audio oprema na koju spajas komp, kad se bojis da ce softver biti distorzioni faktor ?
[08:44] <jobenty> na viksi mi je jamaha 4 x 500 W
[08:44] <BotaniCar> Yamaha ? Ne, audiacious ti nece distorzirati glazbu.
[08:44] <jobenty> mislim u vrijednosti ...
[08:44] <hbogner> jobenty, nemam
[08:45] <hbogner> normalo cujem
[08:45] <jobenty> 1500 E
[08:45] <hbogner> nego gdje ti je viksa i kakvo ti je osigurana, jel se lako udje kroz prozor?
[08:45] * BotaniCar si pribiljezi da jobenty ima u viksi vrijednosti k'o Nadan :)
[08:45] <hbogner> :D
[08:46] <BotaniCar> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141593056090?ul_noapp=true #dakle, sadim jagode nagodinu.
[08:46] <jobenty> a viska i nija neลกto vrijedna ali tamo imam probe pa je sve tamo
[08:46] <jobenty> ali je dobro osigurana
[08:46] <BotaniCar> Dobermani s laserima !
[08:46] <jobenty> stafordi
[08:47] <BotaniCar> jobenty: k'o i uvijek, softver ce ti najmanje od svih komponenti unijeti distorziju, spoji stvar na optiku i bok
[08:48] <jobenty> sviฤa mi se taj Audacious ali eto neลกto prลกti
[08:48] <jobenty> na Amaroku ne prลกti ali mi se gadi suฤelje
[08:48] <BotaniCar> Naljepi neki skin :)
[08:49] <jobenty> samo sec
[08:50] <BotaniCar> KOSOR UDARILA PO KARAMARKU: โDa je dobivao plaฤu po uฤinku, ne bi za kiflu imaoโ # ahahahahahaha
[08:51] <jobenty> Ovaj sam koristio na XP-u i taj mi je najbolji. Skinuo, naprvio executable, i neฤe da radi.
[08:51] <jobenty> http://www.toplinuxapps.com/2015/05/portable-aimp3-media-player-v355-for.html
[08:54] <dodobas> jobenty: mpd + neki client za mpd ... ne znam sto ce ti vise ...
[08:54] <jobenty> a ลกto je mpd
[08:54] <dodobas> meni je sonata (kao klijent) skroz ok
[08:54] <BotaniCar> Covjek svirucka, vjerojatno ima malo osjetljivije uho od mene
[08:55] <dodobas> 'mpd' je kljucna rijec koju upises u omiljen pretrazivac interneta
[08:55] <BotaniCar> "Gola zena je uvijek u pravu" - A.Einstein
[08:55] <dodobas> BotaniCar: slozio bih se
[08:55] <jobenty> BotaniCar: a koja nije u pravu
[08:56] <BotaniCar> jobenty: ona koju si ozenio , u pravilu :D
[08:56] <BotaniCar> Ali, i dalje ne smijes nista reci :D
[08:57] <dodobas> ja se bojim i pitati, smijem li nesto pitati :)
[08:57] <BotaniCar> :D
[09:01] <jobenty> hmm i ona je bila u pravu dok ju nisi oลพenio
[09:02] <jobenty> a ลกto trebam napraviti da taj aimp radi
[09:02] <jobenty> mislim tamo piลกe da ga nije potrebno niti instalirati
[09:05] <jobenty> kad stavim kursor na taj fajl piลกe da je executable
[09:06] <jobenty> kad otvorim properties i tamo stoji da je executable
[09:06] <jobenty> a kad otvorim premissions kod executable nema kvaฤice
[09:06] <jobenty> u ฤem je kvaka
[09:06] <BotaniCar> Veli ekipa da je to pokretala ( Aimp , windows verziju ) kroz wine. Takodjer pisu da je sto se tice kvalitete izlaza super i Foobar. Ja sam na po' gluh pa ..
[09:07] <jobenty> a ลกto je wine
[09:07] <jobenty> gemisลกt?
[09:07] <jobenty> gemiลกt?
[09:07] <BotaniCar> I to ! :) https://www.winehq.org/
[09:08] <BotaniCar> mozes cherat' neke windows aplikacije kroz njega, 'ajmo reci da je emulator
[09:09] <BotaniCar> Ha ! Kazu interneti da mogu winamp ocherat' na linuxu :D To-je-to :)
[09:09] <jobenty> neฤu da imam viลกe nikakve veze sa windowsima
[09:10] <BotaniCar> Ne moras, ako ti se windowsi zgade, nemoj se ljutiti i na OK softver koji je pisan za tu platformu :)
[09:10] <jobenty> winamp je sranje
[09:10] <jobenty> sorry na izrazu
[09:11] <BotaniCar> Zasto ? Osim sto je vec nego vrijeme mrtav projekt, sto mu fali ? Imao si modularne in/out/vizuo pluginove, meni je bilo dovoljno
[09:11] <jobenty> mislim do verzije 2 ili 3 je bijo odliฤan
[09:12] <jobenty> meni na playeru ntrebaju skinovi vizualizacije ia kojekakva ฤuda
[09:12] <jobenty> treba mi da je ลกto manji, ergonomski i konfigurabilan
[09:14] <jobenty> kad kaลพem ลกto manji ne mislim pri toma na ono ลกto se vidi na monitoru nego na broj megabajta
[09:18] <rut> di ste tutaci
[09:22] <BotaniCar> djes' rutino
[09:23] <BotaniCar> Sam ja glup ili kaj ? Nije nuzno odgovoriti. Pravo pitanje je: Layer 2 switch mora moci hendlati interkonekciju 2 subneta, ne trebam L3 za to, ne ?
[09:24] <jelly> interkonekciju?
[09:24] <jelly> nesto mora rutat izmedju 2 subneta, a L2 switch nije to nesto?
[09:24] <BotaniCar> imam onu situaciju u altusu od juce ( dva dolaza koji se moraju kroz switch spreadati na spojene servere )
[09:25] <jelly> jesu ti stavili to u razlicite vlanove ili kaj
[09:25] <BotaniCar> nije li L2 zaduzen da pamti i uspostavlja logicke linkove, sam routing bi serveri morali moci raditi svak' za sebe
[09:26] <BotaniCar> razliciti subneti, dva razlicita fizicka porta, ne znam kakve je mreza s njihove strane switcha
[09:26] <jelly> kakve logicke linkove?
[09:26] <BotaniCar> LCC/MAC
[09:26] <jelly> L2 switch ce prenijeneti paket od MAC adrese A do MAC adrese B
[09:27] <BotaniCar> pa to velim, a ostatak rutinga obavlja server koji je zaprimio paket , ne ?
[09:27] <jelly> server koji zaprima paket se zove router, da
[09:28] <jelly> ok, ponekad se zove gateway
[09:28] <BotaniCar> Odnosno , idem biti malo konkretniji. Imam ulaz 1.2.3.4 i 11.22.33.44, pa switch , pa servere koji su 1.2.3.5 i 11.22.33.45 . da sve moze pricati izmedju sebe ne trebam L3 switch ili se varam ?
[09:28] <jobenty> a gateway je adresa
[09:29] <BotaniCar> Znam da mi u praksi to radi L2 opremom ( spajam interne lanove na slican nacin ), ali nisam siguran kak stvari stoje "formalno"
[09:29] <BotaniCar> *s L2 opremom
[09:29] <rut> eto me muffin
[09:29] <rut> neznam sto sa sobom
[09:30] <jelly> BotaniCar: samo 1.2.3.4 i 1.2.3.5, te 11.22.33.44 i 11.22.33.45 ce moci medjusobno pricati
[09:31] <jelly> za sve ostalo tu je MasterCard
[09:31] <jelly> er, router (il dva)
[09:31] <BotaniCar> jelly: ali nema nikakvog razloga da mi u trenutku kad upiknem 1.2.3.4 u switch, 11.22.33.44 postane nevidljiv za 11.22.33.45 ?
[09:32] <jelly> ne bi trebalo biti...
[09:32] <BotaniCar> Osim ako switch ima tak malo mjesta za ruting tabelu da se prepuni, to mi je sad palo na pamet
[09:32] <jelly> tcpdump ce reci dal pravi promet ide vani prek tvog pravog ifaceta
[09:32] <rut> ma muffin ustekaj i ne brini
[09:33] <BotaniCar> rut: kad ustekam 2 uplinka, cijela mreza s druge strane switcha postane nevidljiva :)
[09:33] <jelly> BotaniCar: pa nemas 9000 MAC adresa, nego dvije, nije to neka pamet
[09:33] <rut> ma postane vraga .. kak ti jelly kaze nemas 9000 uredaja
[09:33] <jelly> samo dobro pazi da ne napravis bridj na linuxu
[09:33] <BotaniCar> jelly: i ja velim, ali u praksi, kad me pristekaju s novim linkom "stari" i sve iza njega prestane biti odzivno
[09:34] <rut> muffin ponasas se koda imas cijeli .hr promet iza sebe
[09:34] <rut> a imas 10 kanti .. ako i toliko :P
[09:34] <jelly> BotaniCar: sto znaci prestane bit odzivno?
[09:35] <BotaniCar> serveri koje bi trebao vidjeti imaju po 2 NIC-a jedan u 1.2.3.X , drugi u 11.22.33.XX segmentu. Dok je ustekan jedan ("stari" ) uplink vidim prvi set NIC-ova, kad ustekam "novi" uplink, vidim samo novi segment, starog nema
[09:35] <BotaniCar> jelly: nmap pokaze da je sve filtered, ne vidi host, nema pinga
[09:35] <jelly> i sto znaci pristekaju? Samo link up? Konfiguracija porta na switchu? Konfiguracija ifacea na linuxu?
[09:36] <jelly> BotaniCar: daj "ip a" output pejst prije i nakon ustekavanja
[09:36] <rut> glup sam izlgeda kad ne kuzim sto ustvari muffin pise :)
[09:36] <rut> i sto hoce
[09:36] <jelly> BotaniCar: i "brctl show" za svaki slucaj
[09:41] <BotaniCar> jelly: nemrem sad s tim kemijat, produkcija mi je u upotrebi. Budem. Kaj te zanima, mozda imam stanje od jucerasnjeg testa
[09:41] <jelly> daj sta imas, onda
[09:42] <BotaniCar> Pitam sto te zanima jer su windows core serveri pa mi ni komande ni sintaksa nisu linuxaste.
[09:43] <BotaniCar> imam rute i imam IP-eve , nemam nikakve tcpdumpove, sumnjam da od toga mozes nesto zakljuciti
[09:45] <rut> evo mene zanima . kad ti to provjeravas u kojoj je mrezi ta kanta iz koje provjeravas
[09:46] <BotaniCar> rut: napisao sam iznad, kante imaju po 2 NIC-a i u obje mreze su
[09:48] <rut> a switch je glup ili pametan ?
[09:48] <BotaniCar> Glup
[09:48] <BotaniCar> http://www.tp-link.us/resources/document/TL-SG1024DE_V1_User_Guide_1910010980.pdf
[09:48] <rut> aj ti prozore zamjeni necim drugim pa ce radit
[09:49] <BotaniCar> Aj ne gluparaj.
[09:49] <jelly> BotaniCar: iz tcpdumpa prije, dok radi, u trenutku ukljucivanja, i kad ne radi mozes dosta zakljuciti, recimo, u kojem smjeru je prestalo radit
[09:50] <BotaniCar> jelly: nemam tcpdump, ni OS na koji ga mogu staviti.
[09:50] <BotaniCar> dogovorio sam s deckima tam' da mi iz usluge ustekaju L3 switch, ako proradi,sve je jasno
[09:50] <jelly> eh, koji vrag se vrti na tim kantama onda?
[09:50] <BotaniCar> jelly: windows server core je okljastren jako. Ovi koje ja imam samo virtualiziraju.
[09:51] <jelly> .pal BotaniCar
[09:51] * datase points at BotaniCar and laughs uproariously.
[09:51] <BotaniCar> :D
[09:51] <BotaniCar> thanks datase
[09:51] <datase> No problem sweetie!
[09:51] <jelly> dobro je rut rekao, a nije ni znao!
[09:51] <BotaniCar> jelly: ali, rade toliko dobro da mi oko suzi od srece :)
[09:52] <BotaniCar> I, provest cu jos jedan test , apropo samog OS-a, ustekat' cu jedan server drito u uplink, to bi moglo raditi
[09:52] <pkiller> jel windows server core free?
[09:52] <BotaniCar> pkiller: je
[09:52] <jelly> digni vlan trunk umjesto dva linka sa istog servera na dummy switch
[09:52] <jelly> ... ako switch uopce ima 802.1q support
[09:52] <BotaniCar> Ima, linkao sam manual iznad
[09:54] <BotaniCar> Moram za svaki slucaj ponoviti kaj si mi rekao: da u jedan trunk gurnem uplink A i server-NIC-ove za tu mrezu, a u drugi trunk uplink B i server-NIC-ove za tu mrezu ?
[09:54] <jelly> ne jeboga, u trunk gurnes sve
[09:55] <rut> kak nema tcpdump za win .. imas windump ..
[09:56] <BotaniCar> rut: majku mu staru, daj citaj. Server core.
[09:56] <jelly> jel "Server core" znaci "nema GUI"
[09:56] <BotaniCar> jelly: da
[09:56] * jelly ignorant
[09:56] <pkiller> http://www.itworld.com/article/2857002/install-gui-apps-on-windows-hyper-v-server-and-windows-server-core.html
[09:56] <pkiller> taman citam
[09:56] <BotaniCar> jelly: znaci i da nema pol kernela :)
[09:57] <jelly> windowsi bez prozora! :-)
[09:57] <pkiller> Botanicar... pogledaj link
[09:58] <BotaniCar> pkiller: bacio sam oko, stao sam na "windows 2012"
[09:58] <pkiller> koji imas ti?
[09:58] <jelly> BotaniCar: al moras rekonfat mrezu na serverskoj strani i dodat vlanove tamo, naravno, ako to prvi put radis... komplikovano
[10:00] <BotaniCar> jelly: lako za komplikacije, volim se samokaznjavati. Ne kuzim kaj bi dobio. Recimo da trunkam portove 1 i 2 ( uplinke) imam server ustekan s 2 NIca u portove 3 i 4 , kak bi ( i gdje ) vlan konfiguracija trebala izgledati ?
[10:00] <BotaniCar> jer, mogu VLAN-ati na fizickom switchu ili hyper-v ovom virtualnom
[10:01] <jelly> moras na fizickom, i moras negdje na hipervizoru
[10:02] <jelly> aha, ISP ti je dao svaku mrezu kroz svoj uplink? Weirdos.
[10:03] <jelly> onda si slozis sam vlanove. Npr port 1 untagged VLAN50, port 2 untagged VLAN51, port 3 tagged VLAN50 i tagged VLAN51, port 4 ti ne treba
[10:04] <jelly> (nemoj koristiti VLAN1 koji je obicno rezerviran za management)
[10:05] <BotaniCar> jelly: u mom konkretnom slucaju to znaci da slazem nesto poput: port 1 untagged VLAN50, port 2 untagged VLAN51 port 3-16 tagged VLAN50 i tagged VLAN51 ( vise servera s po 2 NIC-a iza) .
[10:05] <BotaniCar> Suglasan ?
[10:06] <jelly> da, s tim da svakom serveru vise ne treba 2 NIC-a (pretpostavljam da to iz nekog razloga radi probleme)
[10:08] <BotaniCar> u principu sam do dolaska 2gog uplinka jedan nic dedicirao hipervizoru,a drugi je bio za menadzment
[10:11] <jelly> onda se vrati na to, a ovaj za h-v prebaci u trunk i kroz njega toci sve segmente koji ce biti korisni za virtualke
[10:11] <jelly> makar mozda ni to nece radit dobro, al ko zna
[10:12] <BotaniCar> ma kontam da altusu velim da kod sebe naprave trunk, a meni spuste s svog switcha trunkan port, to bi moralo raditi bolje
[10:12] <BotaniCar> jer, sam si rekao, weird je da mi daju svaki uplink na svom portu
[10:12] <jelly> brijem da to nece samo po sebi pomoci
[10:13] <jelly> pretpostavljam da se nesto na tim windowsima ponasa kao switch/bridge i triggerira STP i ostane samo jedan link jer switch misli da je server drugi switch
[10:13] <BotaniCar> Smrdi na to,da
[10:14] <jelly> a ak h-vu das samo jedan interface onda se to kakti nemre desit
[10:15] <jelly> brbraniruฤak
[10:15] <jelly> al da, cisce je da ti daju sve mreze kroz trunk nego jednu po jednu
[10:17] <BotaniCar> to je bilo pocetno stanje, NIC1 je bio dodan h-v vswitchu i imao je IP iz 1.2.3.X segmenta, a menadzment interfejsu ( NIC2) sam samo dao adresu iz drugog segmenta. kad su pristekali oba uplinka ni u promptu samog h-v-a nisam imao TCP komunikativnost. Tak da dvojim da je OS pizdio (ali ne mogu iskljuciti jer smrdi na to ).
[10:17] <BotaniCar> Oj jest' :)
[10:44] <Mmike> phew
[10:44] <Mmike> hbogner: to ti je frisko formatirani ext4?
[10:45] <hbogner> Mmike, firsko da nemoze bit friskije
[10:46] <Mmike> hbogner: lazyformatovoono
[10:46] <hbogner> je, da reko jelly vec
[10:46] <Mmike> aha
[10:46] <Mmike> ok onda
[10:46] <Mmike> :)
[10:47] <hbogner> zavrsio on to do sad vec :D
[10:47] <dodobas> nginx proxy_cache skroz ok radi...
[10:48] <BotaniCar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba3Rg0NELKE # jedan od prvih magove ex-Yu elektronske glazbe
[10:48] <datase> YouTube: Oliver Mandiฤ - Doฤe mi da vrisnem tvoje ime - 0:05:46 - 34697 views - 115 likes / 0 dislikes
[10:48] <BotaniCar> *magova
[11:09] <vileni> ima tko iskustva sa mysql replikacijom tablice sa jednim enginom u drugi engine?
[11:13] <Mmike> vileni: ako ne koristis rowbased replikaciju, it should work
[11:13] <Mmike> uz sva sranja koja ti to donosi, dakako
[11:13] <Mmike> (cak mislim da bi i row replikacija radila, ne sjecam se vise)
[11:13] <Mmike> al' znam da sam ja tak mijenjao tablice
[11:14] <Mmike> imam dva mastera, na backup masteru okinem: set sql_binlog=0;, alter table kra engine=InnoDB;
[11:14] <Mmike> kad zavrsi, prebacim pronet na backup master, i ponovim ovo na now-disabled-one
[11:16] <BotaniCar> *prebacim porn-et
[11:18] <Mmike> vileni bitan ti je ovaj 'set binlog=odjebi' da ti se ALTER ne propagira replikacijom
[11:23] <rut> di smo stali muffin .. rjesio ?
[11:23] <BotaniCar> rut: nisam ni poceo, cekam termin kad mi nece korisnici skakati po glavi jer ne mogu do servisa
[11:29] <BotaniCar> hbogner: jesi se odlucio sto ces za storage trosit'
[11:32] <hbogner> BotaniCar, nisam jos, uletile druge hitnije stvari
[11:33] <BotaniCar> ja sam skuzio da po ladicama imam~16TB diskovlja , pa da se okoristim tvojim iskustvom i sklepam nesto :)
[11:34] <vileni> Mmike: ovaj set sql_binlog=0 je jednokratni ili ga moram vratiti poslije?
[11:34] <vileni> nvm, gugl odgovorio :)
[11:35] <Mmike> vileni: prouci razliku izmedju 'set' i 'set global'
[11:35] <Mmike> s tim da set-global radi samo za novostvorene konekcije
[11:35] <vileni> izmedju ostalog i to da je set_log_bin a ne set_binlog :)
[11:35] <Mmike> set log_bin, da
[11:35] <Mmike> :)
[11:35] <Mmike> ugl, zelis da se taj ALTER ne zapise u binlog
[11:36] <vileni> Mmike: da, iako za ovaj slucaj nije toliko bitno
[11:36] <hbogner> BotaniCar, 16tb, nije lose :d
[11:36] <vileni> posto je tablica na masteru vec toku, a import u rds ju je pretvorio u innodb
[11:36] <BotaniCar> Diskovi iz datacentra kojima je prosao produkcijski ciklus, steta da oodu u smece/donaciju
[11:37] <vileni> Mmike: imas ideju zasto bi ista tablica importana bila 20% veca u drugom engineu?
[11:38] <jelly> BotaniCar: kod nas je produkcijski ciklus "dok ne krepa"
[11:38] <Mmike> vileni: vise njih, ak mi kazes koji su engineti u igri moci cu probati biti konkretan :)
[11:39] <BotaniCar> jelly: mi smo mali pa se nekak da, da sam velik kao vi, nebi se ni ja jebao s planiranjem zamjene niceg dok ne krepa
[11:41] <vileni> Mmike: pa tokudb i innodb :)
[11:41] <Mmike> vileni: i koji ti je veci?
[11:41] <vileni> inno
[11:41] <Mmike> moguce da su oni fraktalni indeksi kompresiraniji
[11:42] <Mmike> innodb je dost bloatan sto se tice samog storidza
[11:42] <Mmike> daj mi pejstaj create table nekud
[11:42] <Mmike> pogotovo je innodb sjebat ako nemas priamry key po integer koloni
[11:42] <Mmike> nego imas kompozitni pk
[11:42] <Mmike> svaki put kad se postgresa nekog dohvatim vidim koliko je to jebeniji proizvod
[11:43] <Mmike> i koliko mu fali replikacija kak ju mysql ima :)
[11:44] <vileni> zasto replikacija
[11:48] <Mmike> pa nema takvu replikaciju
[11:48] <Mmike> ova u mysqlu je pipljiva i trebas bit oprezan i znat sto radis
[11:48] <Mmike> al' zato mosh svast napravi
[11:48] <Mmike> t
[11:48] <Mmike> ova u postgresu je jednostavnija al' nemas bas puno mogucnosti
[11:48] <Mmike> moras imat master slave
[11:49] <Mmike> sto kompllicira stvari, jer nemres imat dva mastera
[11:49] <Mmike> a kad promoviras slave moras bit siguran da je master mrtav
[11:49] <Mmike> i tak
[11:59] <jelly> BotaniCar: alzo, uvijek iste diskove uzimati za sve servere
[12:00] <BotaniCar> jelly: zato vlim intel, ne moram o tom brinuti, kontroleri ne jebu zid kao, na primjer, na dellu
[12:00] <jelly> a ne malo hp malo dell malo supermicro, pa malo diskovi od 300, malo od 600, malo 10k malo 15k
[12:00] <BotaniCar> Meni je vendor shasija , kad god mogu birati, intel. Poslijedicn, s diskovima ciganim
[12:01] <jelly> a cija je sasija
[12:01] <BotaniCar> Intelova, jasno , zadnjih 5 ploca koje smo kupovali nije ni islo u necije druge sasije ( supermicro ima neke modele u koje se mogu nagurati)
[12:02] <BotaniCar> https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12195808_1074073375938395_4288831593647959432_n.jpg?oh=8ba432fd4d7bbeb216a05e9ef07b6c72&oe=56AE06DD
[12:02] <jelly> ah fuj
[12:03] <jelly> tak je to valjda kad ne mozes dobit pristojne cijene za brand name
[12:04] <BotaniCar> Ako intel nije brend, onda ne znam :) Druga je stvar kaj vasi brandovi imaju u cijenu ukalkulirano vodjenje cca 20 konzultanata na ruckove :)
[12:07] <jelly> brend je ono sto pise na kutiji i na maticnoj i na diskovima, isto
[12:07] <BotaniCar> Moj punchline je u tom da ti od svog vendora dobijes bolju cijenu kad skuzi da ne mora platiti 30 ruckova, nego samo 3 :) Meni intel da normalnu cijenu i bez cjenjkanja :)
[12:11] <BotaniCar> A: nastali smo evolucijom, od majmuna. B: Reko sam staromu da se po internetu hvalis da si nastao od majmuna, kaze da si najebao kad dodje doma A: Kad sam rekao ลกta si napisao veli baka: "Kaj je najgore i jesi nastal od majmuna."
[12:11] <BotaniCar> Nije vic, prepisao s zida poznanika :)
[12:22] <Mmike> BotaniCar: serija se zove Hinterland
[12:23] <Mmike> ili: Y Gwyll
[12:23] <Mmike> pol serije pricaju na vel๏ฟฝkom :)
[12:23] <Mmike> pre smijenso :)
[12:23] <BotaniCar> Ahahaha :) Noted, thx
[12:23] <BotaniCar> Odma' sam se Dokme sjetio :)
[12:23] <BotaniCar> Frajer je bas temeljit, brijem da sad vec bolje govori Irski nego vecina Iraca
[12:24] <Mmike> dokma
[12:24] <Mmike> kakav lik
[12:24] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ti ga znas od prije?
[12:24] <BotaniCar> Mmike: nekaj smo skup pili jos dok ( bar ja ) s ITom nismo veze imali
[12:26] <BotaniCar> #onokad ti troskovi transporta ubiju isplativost HDD-a "iz vana" :(
[12:26] <BotaniCar> bu'm si SSD samsungica od 250G kupil dok idem doma
[12:26] <Mmike> da
[12:26] <BotaniCar> Zadnji put sam komponentu za ciljani PC kupio prije nego sam dete dobil :D
[12:26] <Mmike> meni jos nije dosao moj samsungic iz amazona
[12:26] <BotaniCar> :(
[12:29] <BotaniCar> RH je trebala Slovencima prodati tu bodljikavu zicu o kojoj svi trube. Em imamo od prije, em mozemo bar neku pinku zaraditi, oni ce ju postaviti htjeli mi ili ne
[12:33] <Mmike> Epson XP-325 se neda instalirat pod ubuntuom
[12:33] <Mmike> fail :(
[12:34] <Mmike> neda se nit pod windowsima al' tamo odes na epson.sn (ili di vec) i onda te web vodi kaj moras napravit - i nakon pol sata (al' doslovno 30ak minuta) imas printer instaliran
[12:34] <jelly> Epson FX-80 ftw
[12:39] * BotaniCar u ponedjeljak donira 2 laptopa sinovom vrticu
[12:39] <BotaniCar> jedva cekam dvije reakcije, prvu kad uzmu laptope, drugu kad skuze da nema windowsa gore :)
[12:40] <BotaniCar> Mmike: kulike si platil malishu ?
[12:42] <jelly> jesi tutnuo ubuntu
[12:42] <BotaniCar> Nego kaj !
[12:42] <jelly> mmmm... Fedoru!
[12:42] <jelly> kajjaznam
[12:42] <BotaniCar> ubuntu je gore, sad gledam za neki softver koji bi snimio snapshot i dao tetama da da revertaju na njega kad klinci sjebu
[12:43] <BotaniCar> Nekaj takvo sam davno koristio u call centru zbog radoznalih djelatnika, ali se vise ni imena ne sjecam
[12:43] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ma nist, 400 kuna plinter i jos 400 kuna tinte - iako ima zamjenskih za tipa 150 sam kaj sam tijo prvi set da bude pravi )
[12:43] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ja sam se svaki put speko s zamjenskima, vise ni ne pokusavam
[12:43] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ove, za taj model, su navodno totalno ok
[12:43] <Mmike> zato sam i uzeo taj
[12:44] <BotaniCar> :) I ja sam uvijek uzimao po preporuci :) To je , valjda, kao i s majstorima. Tebi napravi super, preporucis, frajer totalno sve sjebe
[12:44] <rut> a sto ce ti soft za to . napravi korisnika koji nije sudoer i nemaju kaj zeznut :)
[12:44] <BotaniCar> rut: ako to napravim, na sebe prebacujem angazman bilo kakve administracije.
[12:45] <rut> a i da je sudoer stavi pass da nije 123
[12:45] <rut> pa ja bi odmah . samo radi teta :)
[12:45] <jelly> lool "nemaju kaj zeznut :)"
[12:45] <jelly> pa klinci ce provalit i zeznut sve sto ide
[12:45] <rut> a jelly kaj mogu zeznut ?
[12:45] <BotaniCar> ne da mi se, vec sad sam im obecao da cu stvar softverski drzati urednom. Hocu rec, nije mi tesko, ali ako dio mogu anulirati snapshotom ..
[12:46] <rut> mrezne postavke . trazit ce pass .. itd itd .. mogu samo ikonice pobrisat
[12:46] <jelly> butat sa svog sticka, promijenit root password i rusvaj
[12:46] <Mmike> daklem, isntalirao sam sad neki drugi epson jer za ovaj nemam drivere
[12:46] <Mmike> (iako vjerojatno imam ppd na CDu negdje)
[12:46] <BotaniCar> rut: to su klinci od 2-6 godina, mi ne mozemo pojmiti nacine na koji ce "sjebat". Uzmi u obzir da su i tete analfabete, obrisana desktop ikona ce trigerirati da me zovu
[12:46] <Mmike> trebalo mu 8 minuta da isprinta :)
[12:47] <rut> muffin vise bi posla imao da si im dao sa prozorima nego ovako
[12:48] <BotaniCar> jelly: ako mi i jedan klinac chroota u svoj enviroment i napraviista, kupujem mu novi laptop za doma ! :)
[12:48] <BotaniCar> rut: znam, nije mi u cilju generirati volonterske radne sate
[12:48] <rut> a jesu tete cemu ?
[12:48] <BotaniCar> Uff.
[12:48] <rut> MILF ili stare babe
[12:48] <BotaniCar> Uff, samo to cu rec'
[12:49] <rut> pa meni onda nebi bio problem volontirat .. samo da nisam doma
[12:49] <jelly> BotaniCar: a i to sto velis
[12:49] <BotaniCar> Mogu im proslijediti toj kontakt :)
[12:49] <rut> daleko sam
[12:50] <BotaniCar> jelly: al' ne zezeam se, u ovo uopce ulazim u nadi da ce neko dete koje nema doma uvjeta pokazati mrvu zainteresiranosti, za klince mi nece biti tesko ni neku radionicu napraviti
[12:50] <BotaniCar> rut: e,sad,za dobru zeMsku sam se znao fanj daleko voziti :)
[12:50] <rut> aaa bilo je tako nekada .. vise NE
[12:50] <rut> sad nek ona vozi radi mene :))
[12:50] <BotaniCar> velis, prokleta alimentacija, ni za benzin se vise nema :)
[12:51] <rut> a cuj .. za vlak se uvjek ima :)
[12:51] <BotaniCar> Ako krenes vlakom .. dok stignes ce ti trebati viagra za bilo sto :)
[12:52] <rut> necemo se sad vrijedat .. pa nisam bas tak star ..
[12:52] <rut> hidraulika jos radi :) pumpa je na cca 90% snage
[12:52] <BotaniCar> rut: ne vrijedjam ja tebe nego prosjecnu brzinu vlaka :)
[12:52] <BotaniCar> Moram vidjeti koliko kostaju i koji je primjeren najmladjoj dobi , od arduino/lego constructor setova. Brijem da bi to bio pun pogodak za malce
[12:53] <rut> ma i brzina do Zg je OK .. j* je tamo cekanje u KC .. to traje
[12:53] <BotaniCar> Kak mislis OK ? Zadnji put sam u OS vlakom putovao 6h ili vise. Pred 10 godina doduse
[12:53] <rut> pa kojim putem .. brek broda ili KC ?
[12:54] <BotaniCar> Mislim da KC.
[12:54] <rut> os-kc - 3 sata
[12:54] <rut> i od kc - zg recimo sat
[12:55] <BotaniCar> I dalje pun klinac vremena za koliko ? 350km ?
[12:55] <rut> tj. neznam koliko ima KC-ZG .. nisam se nikad vozio
[12:55] <rut> a j* ...
[12:56] <rut> karta je cca 120kn mislim . a toliko je samo autoput do zg
[12:56] <rut> a dodes za 2h
[12:57] <rut> ma ok je meni vlakom al da to krace traje .. mozak na pasu i samo uzivas
[12:58] <BotaniCar> Ja sam volio vlakove zbog mogucnosti da proseces i zapalis jednu u medjuprostoru
[12:58] <BotaniCar> Nda, i cuganja u vlaku ! :)
[12:59] <rut> nego da se mi vratimo na tvoje core prozore .. ja to nisam nikad ni vidio kak to izgleda
[12:59] <rut> sto nema gui ?.. samo cmd ?
[12:59] <jelly> PowerShell i remote CLI
[13:00] <jelly> ko linuxi, samo bolje!
[13:00] <rut> znaci nema kliktanja ?
[13:00] <BotaniCar> Ne samo da nema gui nego je vecina rila iscupana iz njih ( ono kaj sam iznad napisao da pol kernela fali). Milina su, minimalan footprint, rade .. ne znam kaj jos rec
[13:00] <jelly> (tak sam bar ฤuo)
[13:00] <rut> pa kak ip adresu promjenis
[13:00] <BotaniCar> s/rila/rola/
[13:00] <jelly> rut: powershellom
[13:00] <jelly> DUH
[13:00] <BotaniCar> rut: imas "ncurses" meni ili powershell
[13:00] <rut> pa dobro . al sigurno je kobasa od komande ?
[13:01] <jelly> ko i svaki powershell, al Tab radi
[13:01] <BotaniCar> ili, ako imas mreznu spojivost, mozes svu administraciju obavljati s kante koja ima GUI
[13:01] <rut> i vjerovatno nema neke logike unix/linux/cisco
[13:01] <jelly> bas sam se zacudio kad je shrinkanje .vhdx bila komanda kraca od 150 znakova
[13:01] <BotaniCar> ne znam,ja sam pristran u kontekstu da mi je sve super, pa tako i ovo. najsuper mi je sto je powershell sve slicniji bashu
[13:01] <jelly> ^_^
[13:02] <BotaniCar> Nda, dodatni smijeh je da je OS tak strippan da vendori ne nude AV za njega, nema napadne povrsine :)
[13:02] <rut> aj mi napisi komandu za postavit ip adresu ?
[13:02] <jelly> #onokad rotacija logova puca zadnjih 6 mjeseci
[13:02] <jelly> -rw-r----- 1 root root 41179273346 Nov 5 13:44 /var/log/maillog.processed
[13:02] <BotaniCar> netsh in ip add address "Local Area Connection" 10.0.0.2 255.0.0.0
[13:02] <rut> hahahahhaha
[13:03] <rut> ma daj .. sve mi jasno ..
[13:03] <BotaniCar> Set-NetIPAddress [[-IPAddress] <String[]> ] [-AddressFamily <AddressFamily[]> ] [-AddressState <AddressState[]> ] [-AsJob] [-CimSession <CimSession[]> ] [-IncludeAllCompartments] [-InterfaceAlias <String[]> ] [-InterfaceIndex <UInt32[]> ] [-PassThru] [-PolicyStore <String> ] [-PreferredLifetime <TimeSpan> ] [-PrefixLength <Byte> ] [-PrefixOrigin <PrefixOrigin[]> ] [-SkipAsSource <Boolean> ] [-SuffixOrigin <SuffixOrigin[]> ] [-ThrottleLimit
] [-Type <Type[]> ] [-ValidLifetime <TimeSpan> ] [-Confirm] [-WhatIf] [ <CommonParameters>]
[13:03] <jelly> eeee netsh, to sam jos na 2003 koristio
[13:03] <BotaniCar> Ovome si se nadao ? :D
[13:03] <rut> samo ti trosi to pa se pitaj zasto ti nerade 2 subneta
[13:03] <BotaniCar> rut: bas znas biti kretenast :)
[13:03] <rut> pa kak to moze radit ista na mrezi ?
[13:03] <jelly> "koristio" as in "copy/pasteao naredbe koje je vendor napisao"
[13:04] <BotaniCar> rut: "Nisam ni probao, ali jebo te to", kazes :)
[13:04] <BotaniCar> jelly: to su mi najdraza koristenja ! :)
[13:04] <rut> oni su to isfurali .. nagurali sto su pokrali od unixa/linuxa .. upakirali u sranje od prozora
[13:04] <rut> i to nemoze radit nikak dobro
[13:05] <BotaniCar> Aj prvo probaj, pa sudi. ne volim razgovore u kojima se vatreno drvi o nepoznatom
[13:05] <BotaniCar> ( osim kad to ja iniciram, naravo )
[13:05] <rut> pa nemam sto probat jer nemoze biti dobro kad je sklepano da drzi vodu
[13:06] <BotaniCar> Odkud ideja da je sklepano? Sto uopce "sklepano" znaci u kontekstu ovog razgovora ?
[13:06] <BotaniCar> Da nije BSD ? Nije.
[13:06] <BotaniCar> Govnas bezveze :)
[13:06] <jelly> to stoji, ak mi neko prica kak je nesto super ili nesto grozno, a da nije zaprljao ruke s tim i idealno jos 2 alternative, nema se sta raspravljati
[13:07] <jelly> dodje majstor u #debian veli kak je njemu Debian 8 super, i misli da ce se sad svi sjatiti oko njega pomoc
[13:08] <rut> ma sto imam bezveze pricat .. koliko ti se puta network stack zblesao na win ?
[13:08] <BotaniCar> rut: na ovim serverima jos ni jednom.
[13:08] <rut> radi gluposti .. sto nema opce veze sa mrezom
[13:08] <rut> pa zato i jesu goli i nema niceg jer da ima 2-3 stvari vise pljas
[13:09] <BotaniCar> jelly: meni je tak bed sto sam nesposoban pratiti rascjepkane chatove tamo, pogotovo kad pogledam jednom u pol sata. Fakat sam se tam nacitao svega :)
[13:09] <jelly> nasim windows adminima na 2008 i 2012 se nikad nije network stack zblesio. Neke stvari nisu znali slozit, neke stvari ne rade uopce, ali ono sto se jednom slozi, radi
[13:09] <BotaniCar> jelly: brijem da rut izjednacava (pre)nakrcani desktop OS i server OS ..
[13:10] <rut> aj aj .. vidjet cemo kak cete jos dugo te core prozore vrtit
[13:10] <rut> pitat cu te za godinu dana !
[13:10] <BotaniCar> Sad im je osma godina.
[13:10] <rut> dobro . pitat cu te za godinu
[13:10] <BotaniCar> Al, nece dugo, akd se jednom izdaju Windows Server Nano
[13:10] <jelly> pogotovo se 2012 cini bolji jer vise nemas posebno Broadcom, posebno Intel drivere za VLAN, Teaming... nego je konacno to native
[13:11] <rut> osma godina . koliko updejta ?
[13:11] <BotaniCar> rut: ni ne brojim
[13:11] <jelly> svaki mjesec jedan update, pa racunaj, ne?
[13:11] <BotaniCar> :D
[13:11] <rut> e onda ne pricaj .. 8 godina popravljaju (i vise) sto su ukrali od drugih
[13:12] <jelly> za razliku od svih drugih?
[13:12] <rut> odoh pusit
[13:12] <BotaniCar> rut: biram da stavim naglasak na to da se trude popraviti.
[13:12] * jelly gleda 500 patcheva za applyat na RHEL
[13:12] * jelly ignorira
[13:12] * BotaniCar se okine smijat' na "jelly ignorira" :)
[13:13] <jelly> cilj je sve te RHELe virtualizirat i prebacit na neku normalnu distru
[13:16] <BotaniCar> Radije mi, jelly, reci - jel ajvar pre sladak ?
[13:18] <jelly> pa... onih sat vremena koliko je trajao, bio je mrvicu presladak
[13:18] <rut> i tak .. di smo stali .. aj nemoj ti updejtat 20-30 tih updejtova (a necu ni spominjat da svaki taj update restarta network stack)
[13:18] * BotaniCar takes notes
[13:19] <rut> pa ces vidit kak bude stala mreza
[13:19] <jelly> BotaniCar: ali da dobijem jos jednu teglicu istog takvog opet bi nestao istom brzinom!
[13:19] <jelly> wink wink
[13:19] <BotaniCar> rut: pricas gluposti, na nevidjeno. Ajmo poceti s "nemoj updateati" , zakaj bi to napravio ?
[13:19] <BotaniCar> jelly: ACK :)
[13:20] <rut> pa ostavi da radi bez updejtova pa ces vidjet
[13:20] <rut> stuc stuc stuc
[13:20] <jelly> rut: best practice za windowse su redovni updatei
[13:21] <rut> pa naravno i zato i radi 8g :)
[13:21] <jelly> a kao anegdota, za nesto sto se nije updatealo, imali smo uptime 1200 dana na jednoj 2003 instalaciji. Prije 4 godine je nestalo struje, inace bi uptime bio 8 godina
[13:22] <BotaniCar> rut: mene placaju da sistemasim, a ti kao argument stavis "ajde nemoj raditi svoj posao" :) Jebenmu :)
[13:22] <jelly> u tom trenutku je izveden P2V, i sad je opet uptime od kad je virtualiziran
[13:22] <BotaniCar> jelly: legacy apps ?
[13:22] <jelly> 2-3 puta unatrag legacy
[13:23] * BotaniCar se smijucka, od muke
[13:23] <jelly> gasi se od 2009 :-)
[13:23] <BotaniCar> imam i ja takvih :(
[13:23] <rut> imas imas .. i problem da nemos 2 mreze pingat :P
[13:24] <BotaniCar> rut: reci, jesi ti i na radnom mjestu takav kakav se gradis sad dok chatamo ? :)
[13:24] <jelly> rut: i to spada u konfiguraciju neceg novog sto se do sad nije koristilo
[13:24] <rut> pa imao sam danas jednog pacijenta koji je trazio tuntu samba server ..
[13:24] <jelly> kad bi dao Linux hipervizor Mmiketu u ruke da ga slozi, imao bi potpuno isti simptom :-)
[13:24] <BotaniCar> :D
[13:25] <jelly> jer bi mu bilo prvi put i treba vremena skuziti kak napravit 2 default rute na linuxima da rade
[13:25] <rut> onda sam bio ovakav
[13:26] <jelly> jednom kad se to prouci, debagira i podesi, dalje ce vrlo vjerojatno radit
[13:26] <rut> eto .. i ja se nadam da hoce
[13:26] <rut> muffin znas kak je .. kad ne dobis par dana onda si malo nervozan i nabrijan :P
[13:27] <BotaniCar> rut: ja sam ozenjen, meni je normalno stanje da ne dobi'm :) Zato sam tako otresit stalno :)
[13:27] <rut> pa tim gore meni sto ti po zakonu to mozes trazit i trebas dobit
[13:28] <rut> ja nemam nikakve papire :)
[13:28] <BotaniCar> A ja sam se sav pretvorio u oko! Ima zakon na temelju kojeg mogu supruzi doci i reci ( da prostite ) "daj pi*ke" ?!
[13:29] <rut> naravno da ima .. ili vrati kartice .. ne vozi auto .. trazi si novi stan
[13:31] <rut> a brate mili .. stiti ih drzava ko lickog medu pa se jos tako ponasaju .. di je tome kraj
[13:32] <BotaniCar> Gates ulaze 2 mil'jarde baksi u R&D energetskog sektora
[13:35] <jelly> on to vec neko vrijeme... pred par godina je isao s kinezima ulozit za istrazivanje Th reaktora
[13:36] <BotaniCar> ne znam dokle su dosli s projektom generianja klope iz algi od pred par godina, idem bas bacit oko na gugl
[13:44] <jelly> kada ode djevojka na konju... bacam oฤi!
[13:47] <BotaniCar> http://www.gs1.org/docs/gpc/GS1_Combined_Published_Schema_01062014.zip
[13:47] <BotaniCar> pardon
[13:48] <BotaniCar> #onokad srednjim klikom kliknes da bacis chat u fokus
[13:53] <jelly> pkak
[13:53] <jelly> #onokad raid10 na 8-10 diskova daje ukupno average rate: 142 MB/s
[13:54] <BotaniCar> si mu ti stavio kvotu negdje ?
[13:58] <jelly> ne, samo je kontroler star 10 godina i valjda ima cpu od 300MHz
[14:00] <dodobas> e Mmike jesi kombinirao kad CTE a da imas rekurzivni i ne rekurzivni expression
[14:01] <dodobas> uglavnom, rjesenje je da oba deklariras da su rekurzivni
[14:03] <dodobas> tj. da SVE deklariras kao rekurzivne
[14:10] <BotaniCar> Mmike: dash opa ? :)
[14:11] * BotaniCar kopa za war skriptama na arhivskom disku :D
[14:11] <BotaniCar> opche nisam op-abusement skripte stavio na bota :)
[14:13] <jelly> ObMANDARINE IMA LI NARUDลฝBI ZA OVU RUNDU
[14:14] <BotaniCar> jelly: ja bi 2 vrece. Onaj "alternativni" OPG kaj sam imao na umu cuva podatke o sebi kao zmija noge, pa cu i ja svoje noFce tak' sakrit' od njih.
[14:15] <jelly> BotaniCar: alzo manje vreฤe su se podebljale sa 6 na 7 kila za istu cijenu
[14:15] <BotaniCar> vreca =6kg
[14:15] <BotaniCar> Finjak !
[14:15] <BotaniCar> velim,dvije bi.
[14:15] <jelly> piลกem
[14:16] <BotaniCar> kad trosim 802.1Q, i ne pridjelim PVID portu, on ga dobije automaCki, ne dobije nista ili je vendor-policy specific ?
[14:20] <jelly> obiฤno je default VLAN1
[14:21] <jelly> untagged
[14:21] <vileni> jelly: mandarine za sljedeci tjedan?
[14:21] <jelly> vileni: da!
[14:21] <vileni> moze 10
[14:21] <jelly> k
[14:22] <BotaniCar> CEK! Moze i na komad ? :)
[14:22] <vileni> BotaniCar: mi to u tonama
[14:22] <vileni> volim skakati u bazen mandarina
[14:23] <BotaniCar> Danas mi je youtube ponudio da gledam nekog mladca kako se kupa u kadi punoj pepsija. Dobro, sto sam prije toga morao pogldati da mi yt to predlozi ?!
[14:24] <vileni> ja vecinu linkova otvaram inkognito
[14:24] <vileni> ni curi neda da otvori nesto na mom youtube accountu :)
[14:25] <BotaniCar> ja supruzi dam, poslije mi fino dodje kao izgovor ako mi se po ekranu pojavljuju pizdarije :)
[14:26] <jelly> pa dobro, pepsi je sad bolji od kole
[14:27] <BotaniCar> Ne ulazim u procjenu, meni je oboje fino i moram bezat' od toga jer sam neumjeren ; ali kupanje u tome .. brijem da bi me pojelo zivog :)
[14:28] <jelly> ak skida kamenac, mozda skida i salo??
[14:28] <BotaniCar> pfft, a tak ti sexy stoji majmuncic u prefiksu :)
[14:28] <Mmike> dodobas: ne bas, trudio sam se koliko mogu izbjec rekurzivne izraze
[14:28] <Mmike> jer uzmu memorije za popizdit
[14:28] <BotaniCar> jelly ! dze imas sala ?
[14:28] <jelly> imam hlace broj 38 sirina, 31 duzina
[14:29] <jelly> previously (pred 15 godina ;-) 32 sirina, 31 duzina :-)
[14:29] * Mmike se upravo izvagao, imam 113 kila
[14:29] <Mmike> doduse, obucen, ali
[14:29] <BotaniCar> Kak si skupio 6 konfekcijskih brojeva misicha ?!
[14:30] <jelly> postojanim usporavanjem metabolizma
[14:30] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ja imam 90 jebenti :) I znaj da ti je to zato kaj ne ides na party vise
[14:30] <dodobas> Mmike: a nemos puno napravit kad ti treba hierarhija
[14:33] <Mmike> dodobas: mosh subselectat :D
[14:34] <dodobas> tesko...
[14:34] <dodobas> ne znam kako :)
[14:35] <jelly> > vSphere Web Client includes significant performance improvements: The performance improvements include right-click menus that are visible and usable four times faster
[14:37] <BotaniCar> Iha!
[14:37] <BotaniCar> Jel mogu to i za windowse napravit' ? :)
[14:39] <jelly> to i radi kak treba samo pod windowsima
[14:41] <jelly> i radilo je u Chrome na Ubuntu 12.04 kako-tako, a u istom Chrome na Debianu nikako
[14:42] <jelly> moram probat na laptopu al sam upgradeo ubuntu na 14.04
[14:44] <BotaniCar> W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages Something wicked happened resolving 'http.debian.net:http' #tja
[14:47] <jelly> BotaniCar: sad se zove httpredir.debian.org ali i staro ime bi trebalo radit
[14:47] <jelly> pogotovu sto je krace za pisat
[14:47] <BotaniCar> kad curlam url baci se na httpredir , probat' cu opet za sat vremena, tko zna sto je
[14:48] <BotaniCar> Mislim, necu, za sat vremena sam doma :)
[14:48] <BotaniCar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPZ0P8lGRA
[14:48] <datase> YouTube: Crna macka beli macor - muzika agresijaaaa - 0:03:27 - 108120 views - 202 likes / 5 dislikes
[14:52] <jelly> da... na buntu jos uvijek to fleshovinje radi
[14:55] <jelly> i fakat je nesto brze
[14:56] <jelly> prije: kliknes, cekas; kliknes, cekas; sad: kliknes, otvori odmah, al neke stvari se vide a samo neke koje treba refreshat cekas
[14:58] * BotaniCar ceka da izbace HTML5 klijent pa da pocne pravi smijeh
[15:11] <jelly> nagradno pitanje: kak poslat browseru Alt-F1 i Alt-F2 u Unityju :-)
[15:11] <jelly> mogu promijenit konzolu na trecu, petu i sestu... iz ocitih razloga nisam probao Alt-F4 ;-)
[15:16] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan :)
[15:17] <jelly> bilo je: su -; chvt 1
[15:30] <Mmike> su -; ?
[15:35] <jelly> pseudokod
[15:49] <jelly> #onokad mali korisnik ne zna staviti sleep izmeฤu slanja mailova pa hoฤe "limit" od 100000 poruka/sat
[19:58] <Mmike> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellarator
[19:58] <Mmike> k'o da sam ja davao ime :)
[20:03] <jelly> VIRTUALATOR
[22:29] <Mmike> Treba nauciti velski!
[22:29] <Mmike> To je jezik!
[22:29] <Mmike> "Ti'n cael crwydro I lefydd braf iawn!"
[22:29] <Mmike> Kakav fakin klingonski!
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/05/%23ubuntu-hr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-hr"
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:00] <daftykins> oh great kadiro is in now :P
[00:01] <Bashing-om> Hummm .. I did not know this was a Friday .
[00:01] <daftykins> :D
[03:04] <Ben64> really, he wanted to argue about root, i just said "you shouldn't"
[03:04] <Ben64> i'm done with it though
[03:05] <daftykins> those stubborn users really are frustrating
[03:05] <daftykins> hey guys i just got 97% on the Introduction to Linux course on edx.org ! :D
[03:05] <Ben64> it was like step 1 in the diagnostic process and he couldn't understand what i was trying to say
[03:06] <Ben64> i don't get paid enough here to deal with that :D
[03:06] <Ben64> 97 sounds good
[03:07] <daftykins> i dropped one question about shell scripting because i've never done it - and didn't even cover the whole course material ;)
[04:16] <chaos7theory> Is there any indication of how exactly big all the packages under texlive-full takes up?
[04:51] <wafflejock> Ben64: I ended up PMing with The_Yeti, he calmed down, guess what he shouldn't have been running it as root :) I told him you're a very helpful guy and he shouldn't be so dismissive he was just already angry to start, but cooled down once we chatted for a minute and I explained why we don't just tell everyone to install PPAs and run as root if they want
[04:56] <Ben64> cool
[05:08] <daftykins> :)
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[08:23] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: heya :) thanks for the backup!
[08:23] <daftykins> angry little fellow there
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> :p
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: didnt that akik guy came for issues days ago
[08:26] <daftykins> hmm not sure
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> ive seen him before
[08:27] <daftykins> *adds to ignore*
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:48] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: we need to break in and add this chan to Eric's computer again ;)
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: i try hard to get em to add to favs, but some are very hard stubborn
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> ioria, monkeydust,eric
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: morning mate
[09:03] <cfhowlett> greetings. it's grey, wet, gloomy and 1700 hours here in BJ. :)
[09:03] <daftykins> \o
[09:03] <daftykins> crikey
[09:03] <daftykins> much the same as over here at 9am!
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> rainy and 10h here
[09:04] <cfhowlett> cool story: I saw ubuntu in the wild yesterday! Chinese guy at starbucks was using it.
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: on what device
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: did you see the hackatton ubuntu insights?
[09:06] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, nope. link?
[09:06] <daftykins> :D
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/11/04/another-wave-of-hacking-in-china-this-time-with-techcrunch/?utm_source=Facebook%2C%20Twitter%2C%20G%2B&utm_medium=Post&
[09:08] <cfhowlett> ah THAT one!
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> :p
[09:09] <cfhowlett> damn. I had to work today, or I might have gone. VEry close to my present location!
[09:10] <daftykins> :(
[09:18] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: actually what is that system? branded or a custom build?
[09:18] <daftykins> could be a motherboard quirk too
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: its my own build, but the wifi card has worked on trusty before
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> thats what so confusing
[09:19] <daftykins> are you on the vivid HWE stack on that system, so 3.19 kernel - or original 3.13?
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> maybe ill cmos reset aswell
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> kernel 4.2 on xenial now i believe
[09:20] <daftykins> oh yeah you updated, silly me
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> but tested the live trusty right after
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> and card didnt show either
[09:20] <daftykins> i've seen bad states get held onto until a PSU's connections have been removed from the motherboard
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> i tought it was a kernel thing too at first
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> ill surely try :p
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> brb im too curious :p
[09:24] <daftykins> :D
[09:24] <daftykins> good man
[09:33] <lotus|xenial> daftykins: you did it mate!!!
[09:33] <lotus|xenial> 00:0c.0 Network controller [0280]: IBM Device [1014:0601]
[09:34] <daftykins> \o/
[09:34] <lotus|xenial> doesnt show proper ralink chip, but at least it show in lcpci now :p
[09:34] <daftykins> did you go for the CMOS reset too, or just the power pull?
[09:34] <daftykins> yeah that's a weird name
[09:34] <lotus|xenial> power pull
[09:34] <lotus|xenial> daftykins: that might be early xenial stuff
[09:34] <daftykins> ja
[09:35] <lotus|xenial> daftykins: tnx mate :p
[09:35] <daftykins> my pleasure :)
[09:36] <daftykins> my hardware love is far above my ubuntu skillset
[09:36] <lotus|xenial> lol
[09:36] <daftykins> so tempted to upgrade to a skylake build by the way :)
[09:36] <daftykins> ยฃ500 i figured it would be
[09:36] <lotus|xenial> wow
[09:37] <lotus|xenial> lets hope once my store runs, xenial rocknrolls on i7
[09:38] <daftykins> i don't even think the skylake retail boxed chips come with a heatsink!
[09:41] <lotus|xenial> 50mb of xenial updates
[09:46] <daftykins> lotus|xenial: i'd have to get a new case to get some USB 3 ports built in if i upgrade ;) my choice is: http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=705439&pid=89
[09:47] <lotus|xenial> daftykins: error in link?
[09:47] <daftykins> oh drat
[09:48] <daftykins> how about - http://www.ebuyer.com/312927-antec-p280-case-0-761345-82000-4
[09:49] <lotus|xenial> daftykins: nice1
[09:51] <lotus|xenial> ok reboot for xenial updates
[09:53] <daftykins> aaaah, i love a good puzzle.
[09:54] <lotus|xenial> :p
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> :D
[09:54] <lotus|xenial> lol my gf fooling around again
[09:55] <daftykins> hi Ms.lotus! o/
[09:56] <lotus|xenial> 1 min away from the netbook :p
[09:56] <lotus|xenial> hehe
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> lol and hello there
[09:56] <lotus|xenial> lotuspsychje: be polite and say hi back!
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> too late
[09:56] <lotus|xenial> grrrr
[09:56] <daftykins> muahahaha
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> he is a one..
[09:58] <lotus|xenial> lol
[09:59] <daftykins> no way, us Guernsey folk use that phrase :O
[09:59] <daftykins> or more specifically, "cor you're a one you, eh?"
[09:59] <lotus|xenial> thats a flemish expression here aswell lol
[09:59] <lotus|xenial> almost like sayin, your a weird one you
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> yes you are
[10:00] <lotus|xenial> ok lemme go downstairs to punish her
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> bbl :p
[10:01] <daftykins> XD
[10:01] <daftykins> TMI guys!
[10:20] <lotus|xenial> daftykins: ok dinnertime, tnx for the wonderfull fix mate, ill add bug to it later
[10:20] <daftykins> enjoy :)
[10:20] <lotus|xenial> tnx
[10:49] <daftykins> this pikapi is pissing me off :P
[11:15] <daftykins> haha someone just shared this with me in another channel - so good - http://i.imgur.com/UXIXZgF.jpg
[11:15] <daftykins> (safe for work)
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: he's been acting like this for few days here also
[11:28] <daftykins> yeah, complete troll
[11:29] <daftykins> he pasted a command to advise someone with earlier, which was a direct quote from TJ on a prior day - didn't even help the situation :D
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> dear lord
[11:29] <daftykins> might inform the ops actually
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> he will get caught eventually anyways
[11:31] <daftykins> report complete!
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> being helpfull with other users quotes is bad idea
[11:34] <daftykins> indeed!
[11:34] <daftykins> ooh this is appropriate...
[11:34] * daftykins is listening to "You Don't Have a Clue (feat. Anneli Drecker)" by Rรถyksopp [Junior]
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: he starts to make mistakes :p
[11:44] <daftykins> indeed
[11:45] <daftykins> switch to legacy *facepalm*
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> philipballew: hi
[11:51] <daftykins> uuuugh this guy pikapi is such a troll
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: leave him be to next mistake
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> he wont be able to resist im sure
[11:54] <daftykins> :)
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> lol chill
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj
[11:55] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: daftykins solved my ralink card mystery, had to unplug power from mobo
[11:57] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, why would that work?
[11:58] <daftykins> BluesKaj: resets any persistence in the NVRAM of the mobo
[11:58] <daftykins> some kinda quirk in there
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: now xenial sees it in lspci -nn with IBM chipset lol
[11:59] <BluesKaj> weird
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> might be little early for wifi card recognition
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: helloooooo
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> add to favs mate
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> we start to get crowded here
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: <pikapi> he was accusing me personally for no reason
i was pissed off ;|
dont msg me, use #ubuntu-offtopic
tell him to stop saying stupid things
[12:01] <EriC^^> daftykins: i need your expertise on tv and resolution
[12:01] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, well 16.04 is still mostly 15.10 so it should see the wifi chip
[12:02] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: :D
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: it sees now, but as a wrong chipset
[12:02] <EriC^^> daftykins: do you think a 32" tv with 1920x1080 resolution is better than a 1366x768 ?
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: can we start making bugs in this staqe?
[12:03] <daftykins> EriC^^: oh definitely yeah, a proper 1080 panel is mandatory in 2015 i'd say
[12:03] <daftykins> might only be able to appreciate it sat close though :)
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: wich brand are you gonna choose?
[12:03] <EriC^^> i read somewhere that on 32" if you're sitting a little far from it, it won't make a difference
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDustttttttttttt
[12:04] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, I'm using a plasma tv as a monitor and the former works much better than the latter
[12:04] <daftykins> EriC^^: depends a lot on what kind of content you'll have access to, to use on it i'd say
[12:04] <EriC^^> daftykins: what about like the watching normal cable stuff on it? cause it said that it gets scaled down to 1200 or something so does it make a difference if the tv is 1366 or 1920?
[12:04] <daftykins> mmm you'd have to find out what your local TV service broadcasts in
[12:05] <BluesKaj> also the gpu must be able to handle the resolution, EriC^^
[12:05] <daftykins> it would most likely not show up so much
[12:05] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: it's for a tv no pc
[12:05] <daftykins> what was that path that confirms an EFI boot? was it /sys/firmware ?
[12:05] <EriC^^> /sys/firmware/efi
[12:05] <daftykins> ty :)
[12:06] <BluesKaj> well the tv will automatically run the resolution the signal provides
[12:06] <BluesKaj> EriC^^,^
[12:06] <EriC^^> so buying a 32" 1920 isn't ridiculous then?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> nope
[12:07] <EriC^^> yeah, that's what i read online, but i dunno about tv's and 1920 just seems better to me
[12:07] <BluesKaj> it is
[12:07] <daftykins> it's a lovely resolution :)
[12:07] <EriC^^> ok :D
[12:08] <EriC^^> thanks everyone
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: whatever you do, buy a samsung :p
[12:08] <EriC^^> noo, lg man here :P
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> noooooo
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> hi
[12:08] <EriC^^> i have an lg plasma, i love it
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> please dont
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> i know a guy that bought a 60" LG
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> and he returned it fast to the store
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> to switch for samsung
[12:09] <EriC^^> you get a bad lemon here and there, happens all the time i guess
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: when you play a 1080p mkv and compare youl see big difference
[12:09] <EriC^^> daftykins: do you know about lg and samsung?
[12:10] <daftykins> EriC^^: ihave a samsung smart TV myself, ordereda couple for someone else recently too
[12:10] <daftykins> LG's i know run WebOS for their 'smart' features but i've not really researched their TVs
[12:10] <EriC^^> hmm
[12:10] <daftykins> this space key is terrible XD
[12:11] <EriC^^> lg cost more though
[12:11] <EriC^^> they seem more elegant (?) or advanced? i dunno
[12:11] <BluesKaj> larhe screens aren't always best , depends on the size of the room ,and the rule is the viewing distancew should be 2.5 to 4 times the size of the screen
[12:11] <BluesKaj> large
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> nothing can beat samsungs quality trust me EriC^^
[12:12] <BluesKaj> 2,5 to 3 times rather
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> the guy from my work played his full bluray on the LG and it lagged hard on him
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> got myself a samsung UE8000 + mede8er mediaplayer with full blueray mkv's and rocknrolls
[12:15] <daftykins> just don't buy too old a model or rely on the smart functions, as the manufacturers will definitely abandon them sooner than you hope :(
[12:15] <BluesKaj> most likely the player was causing the lag
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: no, it was same mede8er i bought for my friend
[12:16] <daftykins> i'm using Kodi on an Amazon FireTV right now :)
[12:16] <daftykins> ยฃ50 box, plays all my full HD bluray stuff over lovely wired LAN
[12:18] <BluesKaj> I just use vlc , don't own a blueray .. i use a vpn and DL them
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> my desk is a mess, any quick and easy way to solve my issue?
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: whats going on mate?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: good afternoon
[12:21] <OerHeks> Hi lotus
[12:21] <OerHeks> just rebooted due to a new kernel
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: wich ubuntu
[12:22] <OerHeks> 15.04
[12:22] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install desk-clean && desk-clean --auto
[12:22] <daftykins> :)
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: did something not worj on previous?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> some of the most organized people have messy desks, I was one of them :-)
[12:27] <daftykins> does any boot wizard fancy taking over kasper's issue? i'm not experienced enough for that one - weirdly his windows 7 + ubuntu appear to be installed as legacy, but his disk is GPT and he's getting bootloader errors from windows when selecting ubuntu at boot time
[12:32] <OerHeks> how did he made space for ubuntu?
[12:33] <daftykins> mmm no idea
[12:33] <daftykins> probably let ubiquity handle it
[12:33] <daftykins> i think he's ruined it by using EasyBCD at some point
[12:33] <daftykins> the disk looks like it's in some kind of EFI + legacy hybrid situation :D
[12:33] <OerHeks> oh pikapi will solve it
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> grrr what a frustrating troll
[12:34] <daftykins> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13111933/ <---
[12:34] <daftykins> OerHeks: lol
[12:38] <daftykins> why *do* we attract these weirdos? i really don't get it.
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> he's gonna make more mistakes soon i feel it :p
[12:38] <OerHeks> I think we are the weirdos.
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> looool
[12:39] <daftykins> edx.org is still giving free chromebooks out if you sign up for a course
[12:40] <daftykins> :O
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> brrrr chromebook :p
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> i wouldnt even touch it if it sat in my kelloggs box for free
[12:41] <daftykins> XD
[12:42] <daftykins> i'm not a huge fan of them either but it's kinda tempting ;)
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> things fro free always :p
[12:44] <daftykins> https://training.linuxfoundation.org/get-a-free-chromebook
[12:45] <daftykins> oh they'reactually crazy money, i didn't realise it said "not" free courses :)
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> 2.100$ for a course yayyyy
[12:46] <daftykins> yeah XD
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: wb
[12:50] <daftykins> TJ-: o/ wb!
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> 37 users we have a winner!
[12:51] <daftykins> hahaha
[12:51] * TJ- walks in looking like Sherlock Holmes :)
[12:51] <daftykins> don't say he gets my allocation of cookies for the day...
[12:53] * lotuspsychje isnt guilty so stop looking
[12:53] <TJ-> Had some plonkers fly-tipped two builders bags of rubbish at the entrance to 1 of our tracks this morning, I saw them doing it whilst I was out around the fields, but too far away! Found some names/addresses/photos in it and been trying to identify who dun it :)
[12:54] <daftykins> cor, pesky scoundrels
[12:54] <daftykins> TJ-: well it's been all go here too ;) pikapi is one of those bad-advice trolls
[12:55] <TJ-> It's a major problem around here. Folks drive out of the city and dump their rubbish - despite there being free council-operated sites all over
[12:55] <TJ-> pikapi, the 3-a-day Ubuntu kid?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:56] <TJ-> what? did he broke it already this morning?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: daftykins seen him quote you for solving an issue
[12:56] <TJ-> uhoh! was it bad?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> and it wasnt even relevant
[12:56] <daftykins> yeah some guy had some package issue and he typed in one of your style commands that was totally unrelated ;)
[12:56] <TJ-> LOL
[12:56] <daftykins> shocking it was
[12:57] <TJ-> Oh, gee, it's great to be f.f.f.famous :D
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:57] <daftykins> all the kids want to be TJ!
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> i wouldnt want pichachu fans
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> loool
[12:57] <TJ-> pikapi is probably our mystery fly tipper, too!
[12:57] <daftykins> i wouldn't put his past him :>
[12:57] <TJ-> The ways the new kids find to stalk you online!
[12:58] <TJ-> I hope you put him right daftykins ... without being banned :D
[12:58] <daftykins> LOL that's my personal challenge
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: he's been trolling both of us all day
[12:58] <TJ-> Hmmmm!
[12:58] <TJ-> Have you ever had a 'net stalker?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> not me
[12:59] <daftykins> TJ-: actually i've got a guy with a really funky hybrid EFI with GPT disk arrangement right now and yet both windows + ubuntu booting in legacy mode that you might enjoy
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> my ip is anonymous! 127.0.0.1!!
[12:59] <TJ-> 'enjoy' isn't quite the word I'd use to describe it :)
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: wb
[12:59] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Oh you should get one - they're so much fun to toy with
[13:00] <daftykins> TJ-: d'aww
[13:00] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:00] <daftykins> TJ-: he gets this on picking ubuntu - http://i.imgur.com/DCXZ4FM.jpg yet his disk looks like - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13111933/
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: by the way, daftykins solved my mystery ralink wifi card issue, had to disconnect power from mobo
[13:01] <daftykins> TJ-: i've suggested he either ask a boot expert ;) or just reinstall both OSs after wiping the drive :>
[13:01] <daftykins> so far he wants to wipe the drive
[13:02] <TJ-> My partner Eddie and I had one about 3 years ago; was the real thing too - mystery letters, cards, packages through the mail; emails, weird sites being subscribed with Eddie's email address, people turning up at the door expecting a sex hook-up!! Had the cops involved... but we managed to entrap the perp online with a honeypot web-site and from that ID where he was and the cops got him.
[13:02] <daftykins> holy moly, that's nasty
[13:03] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: you mean you never COLD booted it? Aha! That's the one thing I assumed you'd done and never thought to suggest
[13:03] <daftykins> not bright enoughfor a proxy eh?
[13:03] <TJ-> daftykins: thank-fully, not, else it would have been difficult. It lasted about 3 months.
[13:03] <daftykins> :S
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: now it has become stranger and lspci shows it as IBM chipset lol
[13:05] <daftykins> :D identity-crisis wifi
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> haha
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> the xerus illness
[13:05] <TJ-> daftykins: re your UEFI user: autoneombr0 is the Easy BCD alternate boot-loader; that ought not to be on there,
[13:06] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: really? are you sure? show me :)
[13:06] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: the entire dmesg and "lspci -nn" please
[13:06] <daftykins> TJ-: yeah he installed it as ubuntu didn't show up as an option apparently, i suggested that broke things
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> wait lemme go upstairs holdon
[13:06] * daftykins waits for ms.lotus to jump back on lotuspsychje and type :D
[13:08] <TJ-> daftykins: the problem us... the autoneombr0 is for BIOS boots, not UEFI, so the firmware starts in UEFI mode and loads the Windows EFI boot-manager, which then apparently tries to chainload MBR-style that file, which the UEFI calls don't support... well, that's my best reading of out. Anyhow, the problem is that neo'dumb' stuff
[13:09] <daftykins> weird, 'cause that guys windows install claims to be legacy
[13:09] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: #5: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13112219/
[13:09] <daftykins> i smelled a win8 -> 7 conversion leaving a GPT disk
[13:09] <daftykins> anywho, it's ugly but he seems keen to do the full disk wipe and reinstall :)
[13:10] <TJ-> daftykins: OK, but there's apparently an EFI SP on that disk. Did you check if it does have EFI boot files in it?
[13:10] <TJ-> daftykins: /dev/sda2 fat32 boot 105MB
[13:11] <daftykins> nah, i was hoping to pass it onto the resident boot expert after yourself, but he was not active at the time :(
[13:11] <lotus|xenial> ah now it shows in lshw: *-network:0 UNCLAIMED
[13:11] <lotus|xenial> description: Network controller
[13:11] <lotus|xenial> product: RT2800 802.11n PCI
[13:12] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: show us "pastebinit <( sudo lspci -vvnnk -s 00:0c.0 )" please
[13:13] <TJ-> daftykins: did the user boot from Live USB? If so, did you confirm it booted UEFI mode? Does the PC even support UEFI?
[13:13] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13112244/
[13:13] <daftykins> TJ-: i'll see if he's still there and fancies a troubleshoot :)
[13:14] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: you see the Subsystem correctly reports. The device is apparently one supplied to IBM and branded by them
[13:14] <lotus|xenial> yep
[13:15] <lotus|xenial> so it makes sense afterall
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> i'm installing xenial too, in vmware player
[13:16] <daftykins> :D
[13:16] <lotus|xenial> MonkeyDust: nice1
[13:17] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: mind blown that you give a guy a google link and he says it'll save him hours, he hadn't googled already *facepalm*
[13:18] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: do this; it'll show you some other devices along the same lines:
[13:18] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: "awk '/^[0-9A-F]{4,4}/{BRAND=$0} /1737.*006./{print BRAND, $0}' /usr/share/misc/pci.ids "
[13:18] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: did that WiFi device *ever* work on Ubuntu?
[13:19] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: yes, we fixxed it on trusty the other day
[13:19] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: but cant remember how, something with linux-firmware
[13:19] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: hmmm.
[13:19] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13112272/
[13:19] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: did you pastebin the dmesg ?
[13:20] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: on trusty?
[13:20] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: that is weird! awk didn't work correctly for you!
[13:20] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: on what is booted now
[13:20] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: xenial, holdon
[13:21] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: this is what I expected you to see http://paste.ubuntu.com/13112277/
[13:21] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13112279/
[13:22] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: maybe its because its unclaimed right now?
[13:22] <TJ-> No. The file awk is parsing is the text pci.ids list
[13:23] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: its empty on my side
[13:24] <lotus|xenial> daftykins: lol, hope it helps him
[13:24] <daftykins> :)
[13:24] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: the file is empty? it can't be, you got some results out of it!
[13:24] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: no i man empty where it should mention emtec..
[13:24] <lotus|xenial> like your file
[13:25] <OerHeks> 102 is out ! multiboot with uefi http://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/issue102_en.pdf
[13:26] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: the awk command is (trying to) capture an earlier line and hold on to it in BRAND variable so that when it gets a match on the device ID it can print BRAND and current matching line, so that BRAND capture logic is probably failing because you file is using lower-case hex characters
[13:26] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: Try "awk '/^[0-9A-Fa-f]{4,4}/{BRAND=$0} /1737.*006./{print BRAND, $0}' /usr/share/misc/pci.ids "
[13:27] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: still empty
[13:28] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: that IS weird! maybe the file format there is different then. Can you "pastebinit <( tail -n 1000 /usr/share/misc/pci.ids )"
[13:29] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13112314/
[13:33] <daftykins> TJ-: looks to me like windows' boot image only; http://termbin.com/0x2p
[13:36] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: weird; the file-format is OK. Must be something about how your system interpets the 'awk' script
[13:36] <daftykins> so i think someone didn't clean up the EFI mess before putting legacy Windows + ubuntu on :O
[13:37] <TJ-> daftykins: looks possible. might be good to get a bootrepair report on that system, unless the user is going to do a reinstall (correctly)
[13:37] <daftykins> *nod*
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> there, xenial installed and working...
[13:38] <lotus|xenial> MonkeyDust: nice1
[13:38] <TJ-> daftykins: tip, for when getting a listing from an FS/directory you expect not to have many files in its heirachy: "find /mnt -ls"
[13:40] <daftykins> *nod* that makes sense :)
[13:40] <daftykins> was certainly tedious my folder by folder attack
[13:40] <TJ-> I used to get caught by that until I learned to love 'find' :)
[13:40] <TJ-> adding in a -maxdepth X to control it is the other thing I use alot
[13:42] <daftykins> is there an elegant way to use find on / whilst suppressing all the output of paths a standard user isn't permitted to view?
[13:42] <daftykins> and avoid using sudo with it
[13:43] <TJ-> there is the 'don't X file systems' option
[13:44] <TJ-> "-xdev"
[13:45] <TJ-> you could jsut do "find / 2>/dev/null" to 'loose' the warnings about permission denied I think
[13:46] <daftykins> hrmm ok, ty
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> excellent...
[13:54] <daftykins> lol this is going to make pikapi flip out, i think his solution would have worked after all :)
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> don't make him start a discussion...
[13:55] <daftykins> nah i'm hiding now :D
[13:55] <daftykins> it's still a mess, so i don't personally like the 'solution' of changing EFI boot to legacy
[13:57] <TJ-> other way around.... Legacy to UEFI
[13:57] <daftykins> ooh-err
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> to geek or not to geek, that is the question
[14:06] <lotus|xenial> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1513477
[14:06] <lotus|xenial> there we go first xenial bug
[14:06] <daftykins> :)
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> lotus|xenial support in #ubuntu+1
[14:07] <daftykins> lol
[14:07] <lotus|xenial> hehe
[14:07] <lotus|xenial> i was 'discussing it'
[14:08] <lotus|xenial> with myself
[14:10] <daftykins> quick get your gf back on lotuspsychje :P
[14:10] <lotus|xenial> she's sleeping shhhh
[14:10] <BluesKaj> heh, I have a ralink rt2780 usb dongle ...wonder if it works , haven't tried it in yrs
[14:11] <lotus|xenial> BluesKaj: test for me later?
[14:11] <lotus|xenial> im curious :p
[14:11] <BluesKaj> or is it 2870
[14:11] <lotus|xenial> probably all the same mess
[14:12] <lotus|xenial> im gonna bug whatever feels wrong this time
[14:12] <lotus|xenial> so we have a clean nice xerus
[14:12] <BluesKaj> ok, I'll set it up just for fun
[14:12] <daftykins> :D
[14:12] <daftykins> that's the spirit
[14:13] <lotus|xenial> : )
[14:13] * daftykins keeps dreaming about new motherboards
[14:14] <daftykins> mmmm - http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z170-PRO/websites/global/products/rNcl9BhUV4NzvQIk/images/mb/mb.png
[14:14] <lotus|xenial> lol
[14:14] <lotus|xenial> wow
[14:14] <lotus|xenial> monsta
[14:15] <lotus|xenial> http://game.msi.com/product/motherboard/z87-gaming
[14:15] <daftykins> has one of those M.2 PCIe v3 x4 SSD slots for a nice NVMe SSD :)
[14:16] <lotus|xenial> cool
[14:16] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: is this the wifi device? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Linksys-WMP600N-IEEE-802.11a-b-g-IEEE-802.11n-Draft-2.0-PCI-Wireless-Adapter-with-Dual-Band-WEP-WPA-WPA2-Personal-WPA-WPA2-Enterprise/12321719
[14:16] <lotus|xenial> ready for 950
[14:16] <daftykins> exactly :D
[14:16] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: yes
[14:16] <lotus|xenial> but i need to go to the bank right now
[14:16] <TJ-> I have one here on my desk
[14:17] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: running ubuntu?
[14:17] <TJ-> WMP600N
[14:17] <lotus|xenial> anyway bbl guys
[14:17] <daftykins> o/
[14:17] <TJ-> It used to be in an Ubuntu wireles router system that had 10 Ethernet interfaces and did dual-band AP using hostapd too
[14:18] <daftykins> ten O_O
[14:22] <TJ-> yeah, it does the job of several different devices: switch, router, gateway (had a DSL PCI modem in), AP, NAS
[14:23] <TJ-> hmmm, time I cleared some outstanding projects. The pile on the workbench has now reached my corner so I have nowhere to work to test things out!
[14:24] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, sorry, found the dongle , but the stick is missing
[14:24] <daftykins> TJ-: :D well thanks for the second set of eyes as always, sorry to distract you so much ^_^
[14:25] <TJ-> Trouble is, knowing where to start :s It's going to be revolving chairs :)
[14:34] <TJ-> looks like kasper got lost
[14:34] <daftykins> :D
[14:35] <daftykins> that's the trouble with ghosts
[14:37] <TJ-> :D just found 2 untouched Windows Office XP Pro 2002 sets at the back of a shelf!
[14:39] <daftykins> to ebay! you'll be laughing all the way to the bank
[14:41] <TJ-> no-one would want that old stuff nowadays
[14:43] <daftykins> you'd be amazed :) i have to grin and bear it when a younger lad i know is obsessing over older windows installs
[14:43] <TJ-> really? it's worth the time of listing them?
[14:44] <daftykins> lets have a glance
[14:44] <TJ-> I've got the entire suite of Windows software and packs of licences from the Microsoft Action Pack subscription
[14:46] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Office-Business-/3768/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=office%20xp%20pro&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
[14:46] <daftykins> hehe there y'go, some going for ยฃ20 worth in the US!
[14:46] <daftykins> those being sold listings if my link works
[14:51] <TJ-> don't look like any UK sellers... which suggests there's not the same market for them here or in the EU
[14:51] <daftykins> d'aww, ah well
[14:52] <daftykins> i get quite heated when i see folk still claiming installing and using XP is ok =|
[14:52] <TJ-> oh, there's one, with 0 bids. Thanks. I'll watch it, see if there are any takers
[14:52] <daftykins> hurrah :D
[14:53] <TJ-> XP is fine for air-gapped PCs; running machinery control software often requires XP; anything later has problems
[14:54] <TJ-> That's one reason I keep the licences and install disks; never know when I may need to run up some legacy installation for recovery or analysis. I have NT 4.0 install disks still
[14:59] <daftykins> :) these are folk installing them on laptops they use online though
[14:59] <daftykins> they keep pushing the registry tweak that makes a system pretend it's XP point of sale / embedded edition, so supported longer
[14:59] <cfhowlett> I beg to differ. I see WAY too many Chinese machines still running XP
[14:59] <cfhowlett> including POS devices
[15:00] <daftykins> mmm supposed to be a big problem over there
[15:00] <daftykins> and that's POS for both meanings of the initialism ;)
[15:01] <cfhowlett> indeed!
[15:01] <cfhowlett> strangely enough, I have yet to see ubuntu-kylin in use.
[15:03] <TJ-> Nothing wrong with XP; It's how it is used. In all the time I used it, never once was compromised, and never installed A/V either.
[15:06] <daftykins> yeah, same here
[15:06] <daftykins> it was great for the time, i was just glad when it got murdered :)
[15:06] <daftykins> those lengthy installs were etched in my mind :)
[15:38] <TJ-> I'm going to need to convert the Calf Shed into a workshop! Far too many components and bits!
[15:39] <daftykins> but that's a lot of moo-ving
[15:39] <daftykins> :D
[15:39] <TJ-> LOL
[15:40] <TJ-> don't tell me - you'll be here all week?
[15:40] <daftykins> i'd love to but i think i will head to bed shortly :>
[15:42] <TJ-> Is it sleepy time already?
[15:42] <daftykins> yeah, i didn't sleep last night
[15:42] <daftykins> up to my usual tricks ;)
[15:45] <TJ-> Awwww, I know how it feels. I had the same the night before, but slept for about 11 hours last night
[15:45] <TJ-> I can see the workbench now - time for the Dyson!
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> xfce is very 'likable', wasnt aware...
[15:58] <daftykins> yeah ifind it quite comfy :)
[15:59] <daftykins> blast this membrane keyboard's overused space bar :D
[16:00] <TJ-> :)
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> using it for my xenial vm
[16:00] <TJ-> Yes, I like lxfe/lubuntu too. Nice and simple
[16:04] <daftykins> ok i'm gonna head off, laters everyone \o
[16:04] <TJ-> g'night
[19:07] <pauljw> hey lotuspsychje :)
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> hi pauljw
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-with-unity-7-to-support-snappy-packages-495769.shtml
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-drop-ubuntu-software-center-for-gnome-software-495760.shtml
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> xenial news
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-drops-brasero-and-empathy-gnome-calendar-to-be-adopted-495782.shtml
[19:20] <pauljw> saw that as well the redhat issue...
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> finally a software center alternative
[19:23] <pauljw> i tend to use synaptic myself
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> terminal here
[19:24] <pauljw> :) been known to do that too, just not always.
[19:26] <pauljw> i still struggle with all the gazzillions of commands in the terminal that i can't remember... :D
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: yeah there's so many to remember :p
[19:31] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I'm trying to get an old mobo to boot with that WMP600N so I can let you know what linux reports
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: cool! tnx mate
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i got a reply from a dev already
[19:32] <TJ-> currently the mobo is refusing to boot from any USB!
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: he suggest mainline kernel 4.3
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: try 'plop boot manager' to force the usb's, its a nice cdrom to have :p
[19:34] <TJ-> I have, it's not helped so far. Weirdly, I have booted this mobo with this USB diagnostic kit before
[19:34] <TJ-> anyhow, going to dinner now. I'll tackle it later.
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> kk
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> bon apetit
[19:43] <pauljw> biab
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Various-16.04-LTS-Updates
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/11/the-ubuntu-software-centre-is-being-replace-in-16-04-lts
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> its all over the news :p
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-uos-appdev
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[13:57] * popey looks around
[14:08] <DanChapman> o/
[14:08] <popey> o/
[14:10] <popey> can you see the doc?
[14:11] <DanChapman> yeah when James isn't talking :-D
[14:11] <popey> hmm
[14:11] <popey> i can make focus
[14:28] <DanChapman> It's awesome!
[14:39] <popey> this is amazing!
[14:40] <aquarius> i missed the beginning part where a link to all this magnificence was provided; where can I get it? :)
[14:41] <DanChapman> aquarius: https://github.com/halfsail/Ubuntu-UI-Toolkit
[14:41] <aquarius> cheers DanChapman!
[14:44] <James_Mulholland> http://2buntu.com/touch/device-art-generator/
[14:45] <aquarius> My thing: http://kryogenix.org/code/edgeview/edgeview.html
[14:46] <aquarius> (mine doesn't look nice. But it adds app images to actual photos)
[14:46] <aquarius> (combining edgeview and the 2buntu device art generator would be cool, I think)
[14:48] <popey> https://github.com/halfsail/Ubuntu-UI-Toolkit
[14:49] <aquarius> QUESTION: not sure this is actually a question, but we're pretty starved of design guidelines out here outside the design team. It would be great to see more stuff being discussed publicly, even if it's not quite reached the stage of Formal Written Design Guidelines
[14:49] <aquarius> hmph, no question answering for me!
[14:49] <aquarius> popey, ^ :)
[14:49] <popey> oh, we missed it
[14:49] <aquarius> never mind :)
[14:50] <aquarius> it is hardly the first time I have mentioned it ;)
[14:50] <popey> ask it in James_Mulholland next session :D
[14:50] <popey> and do so at 4pm exactly
[14:50] <aquarius> I'm in a meeting at 4 :-(
[14:50] <James_Mulholland> Hi Aquarius!
[14:50] <aquarius> but I shall watch the video later
[14:50] <aquarius> aha, heya James :)
[14:50] <James_Mulholland> That's a fair point, I'll communicate it up the ladder on your behalf
[14:51] <aquarius> James_Mulholland, I know the design team are doing tons of work -- ideas, plans, thoughts, mockups, and so on. Having access to some of that would be really helpful, out here in the cold. It doesn't have to be perfect design guideline documentation, because that takes ages to produce and there's nowhere near enough of it...
[14:52] <aquarius> thank you for the session, James_Mulholland and Kevin (and Alan!)
[14:52] <James_Mulholland> I would agree it would be nice if we could get things out (and get feedback) prior to nailing them down for 'official design guidelines'
[14:53] <James_Mulholland> We just need an appropriate channel for doing so. UOS and the like are a good example, but infrequent...
[14:54] <James_Mulholland> Thanks all!
[14:54] <aquarius> James_Mulholland, design.ubuntu.com? twitter? googleplus? pastebin? :) Hang out on Telegram, maybe :)
[14:56] <James_Mulholland> Absolutely, I'd lean toward the more informal/ social channels myself. I'll see what our managers think :)
[14:56] <James_Mulholland> Thanks aquarius!
[15:49] <popey> pstolowski, you need help? I can setup the hangout and you can start it?
[15:49] <pstolowski> popey, yes please
[15:49] <popey> okay, one moment
[15:51] <popey> pstolowski, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYfpFZz4PSJx9Y-MaKpFgVW51czlr98olxne3OUtYUtSTpQ8hg is your hangout link, you're ready to go. Just join that, hit start when you're ready (in 10 mins)
[15:51] <popey> pstolowski, let me know if you have any issues!
[15:52] <popey> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22631/introduction-to-scopes/ is setup
[15:52] <pstolowski> popey, awesome, thanks!
[15:52] <popey> no problemo!
[15:52] <popey> any time
[15:54] <pstolowski> popey, i don't see 'start' anywhere, will it show up when it's time to start?
[16:00] <pstolowski> scopes intro session about to start in 2 minutes, we're having some difficulties with hangout
[16:01] <dbarth> we're about to start the HTML5 app session as well; see you there
[16:01] <popeyfan> which session to pick >_<
[16:02] <alecu> popey: pstolowski: hangouts tells me "No one is here right now" when I try to use the link above
[16:02] <popey> one mo
[16:02] <popey> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYeE7jAsRBsbwdjTE8aEE-BKK3JKJsolP7IyQybs1mlxN_ytug?hl=en&authuser=0
[16:02] <popey> had to re-create the hangout
[16:02] <popey> my bad
[16:03] <popeyfan> will we need to refresh the summit page?
[16:15] <marcustomlinson> crazy good slides
[16:15] <alecu> indeed :-)
[16:31] <marcustomlinson> QUESTION: can I develop an aggregator scope and install it directly on my phone for personal use?
[16:38] <marcustomlinson> cool, thanks!
[16:39] <marcustomlinson> For those interested in JS bindings, here's a tutorial: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/tutorials/developing-scopes-javascript/
[16:39] <marcustomlinson> and here's the UOS session: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22616/javascript-scopes-hands-on/
[16:42] <marcustomlinson> it is :) But it doesn't look like the phone
[16:46] <marcustomlinson> pstolowski: its not that bad
[16:46] <marcustomlinson> pstolowski: can't see the text, but wee see the result of the edit
[16:48] <marcustomlinson> QUESTION: where do I go to get started
[16:48] <marcustomlinson> tuts, guides, etc?
[16:48] <alecu> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/scopes/
[16:49] <marcustomlinson> awesome
[16:50] <marcustomlinson> excellent presentation!
[16:50] <alecu> yes, it was very detailed.
[16:51] <marcustomlinson> popey: you still alive?
[16:51] <popey> ya
[16:51] <popey> thanks for the nudge
[16:51] <popey> stopped the feed
[16:51] <marcustomlinson> :)
[16:51] <popey> am in another session :)
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-quality
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[19:51] * balloons does a happy dance
[19:51] <balloons> UOS is complete.. Another one in the books!
[19:51] <flocculant> :)
[19:52] * flocculant asks balloons how the jenkins for flavours is getting on - to bring him down to earth :p
[19:53] <balloons> pop!
[19:53] * balloons feels deflated again
[19:53] <balloons> what's in your glass knome?
[19:53] <balloons> wait, wait.. there's no knome?
[19:53] <balloons> !!!!
[19:53] <balloons> ::tears::
[19:58] <flocculant> oh noes
[19:59] <flocculant> balloons: so it all went ok I guess then :)
[19:59] <balloons> flocculant, I've been told everything is done, but one test still fails. That's been the status for a bit now
[19:59] <flocculant> I did pop by a couple of sessions - but it all seems a bit phone/snappy and not really of much interest to me
[19:59] <flocculant> right ok - thanks - wasn't sure where it was tbh
[20:16] <balloons> flocculant, lots of snappy and phone stuff
[20:16] <balloons> I suppose.. I wasn't really in any of those
[20:17] <balloons> I did mention xubuntu once today in the future of UOS session
[20:17] <flocculant> :)
[20:18] <flocculant> did it go BEEEEEP ?
[20:21] <balloons> BOOP actually
[20:21] <balloons> how'd you know?
[20:21] <flocculant> I'm telepathic today
[20:27] <dkessel> you make me smile guys :)
[20:29] <dkessel> balloons: so i guess the build results could also be made public then? or are they already?
[20:30] <balloons> That's the piece i don't know they most certainly are public on Jenkins someplace. Been busy this week with uos but i suspect i could find them if i went hunting
[20:31] <dkessel> here's your bow and arrow, balloons
[20:31] * dkessel hands them over
[20:31] <dkessel> ;)
[20:34] <flocculant> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Releases/view/Xenial/
[20:34] <flocculant> perhaps
[20:34] <balloons> dkessel, flocculant we spoke about qa plans for the desktop (as in ubuntu, but broadly it also applies to all images) in this session: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22587/1604-lts-desktop-qa-plan/
[20:35] <flocculant> balloons: I did read the notes for that session
[20:35] <flocculant> that one and the let's bin usc notes :)
[20:35] <balloons> talk about gating the images based on the enhanced results, and they wanted to add tests from the problems with the live session not working and rebooting and lightdm doesn't load, etc. Those issues we had the last few cycles
[20:37] <dkessel> it would be great to have a protection against getting those problems again and again
[20:37] <flocculant> balloons: at this stage I would like to at least see that the image boots to a desktop
[20:37] <flocculant> saves that zsync and boot test I do twice a day
[20:38] <balloons> right right. They were keen to see the same thing
[20:38] <balloons> biab
[20:38] <balloons> I didn't even bring it up :-
[20:38] <flocculant> I suspect I will see you tomorrow then :)
[20:46] <dkessel> Same for me. bb.
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"dkessel",
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-uos-plenary
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[16:47] <rahul> Hi it is morning in portland, OR
[16:48] <Guest33504> Hi it is morning in Portland, OR
[16:48] <Guest33504> good morning everyone.
[16:49] <Guest33504> I have a question for CEO, can I shoot for it?
[17:28] <Lrtcfr> Hi
[17:54] <ubuntuer> hi
[18:56] <dpm> everyone set for the plenary? :-)
[18:58] <nhaines> dpm: all set now. :)
[18:58] <dpm> \o/
[18:58] <slangasek> mhall119, dholbach: I assume someone will be passing me the hangout info for joining :)
[18:59] <slangasek> and done
[18:59] <slangasek> I assumed correctly!
[18:59] <dholbach> :)
[18:59] <popey> o/ i need it too
[19:00] <dholbach> go go go!
[19:00] <popey> got it
[19:00] <wxl> we on yet?
[19:01] <nhaines> wxl: soonโข!
[19:01] <wxl> XD
[19:01] <balloons> everyone ready!
[19:01] <balloons> go time
[19:01] <wxl> nhaines: okie dokie, then. i guess i;ll just wait patientlyยฉ.
[19:01] <dpm> we should be ready in a minute
[19:04] <mhall119> bear with us guys, Google forgot to give us a "Start Broadcast" button :)
[19:04] <jcastro> sorry guys, some technical issues
[19:04] <wxl> beer with us you said?
[19:04] <popey> #blamejcastro
[19:04] <popey> \o/ beer
[19:04] <popey> http://drool.popey.com/
[19:04] <mhall119> #listentopopey
[19:05] <wxl> wow, popey, just wow.
[19:09] <nhaines> Yay, they're talking about something I'm doing! \o/
[19:10] <_Ridgewing> Hiyas everybody - I was on the bus - did I miss much ?
[19:10] <nhaines> _Ridgewing: nope, just a recap about Ubucon Summit.
[19:11] <_Ridgewing> ok, cheers.
[19:11] * _Ridgewing slides nhaines a beer ...
[19:11] * mhall119 hopes _Ridgewing brought enough for everybody
[19:12] * balloons looks over at nhaines silently
[19:13] <_Ridgewing> It's only Kopparberg (cider) I'm afraid. http://www.kopparberg.co.uk/cider
[19:15] <therealpopey> who of the presenters is typing?
[19:15] <_Ridgewing> QUESTION: Why wasn't there a track about /r/Ubuntu on reddit and it's problems with that site. That is : I asked dpm, several times if Jane silbur would do an AMA in the ask a CEO session, yesterday ?
[19:16] <balloons> _Ridgewing, ?
[19:17] <balloons> I'm confused by your question
[19:17] <_Ridgewing> balloons: You need to be more specific, I'm afraid.
[19:17] <balloons> _Ridgewing, that's what I'm hoping you can be
[19:17] <balloons> more specific
[19:17] <alecu> we love scopes!
[19:17] <dobey> _Ridgewing: why would there be a whole track about reddit?
[19:17] <therealpopey> hahaha
[19:18] <dpm> _Ridgewing, the plenary is presentation-style to offer an overview of the track content. It's not Q&A-like, but I can probably answer your question here
[19:18] <ogra_> celebration !
[19:19] <_Ridgewing> balloons: Because Jane the CEO needs to be asked if she could do a reddit AskMeAnything on behalf of Ubuntu.
[19:19] <balloons> _Ridgewing, ahh. That's a different and more easily stated question. Will Jane do an IAMA? You can ask her!
[19:19] <popey> yeah, just drop her an email
[19:20] <dobey> or a twit on twitter or something
[19:20] <_Ridgewing> Really, she'll listen to me ?#
[19:20] <popey> Of course!
[19:20] <sergiusens> balloons, he indirectly did in the Q&A with Jane yesterday, but his question didn't make it. I guess he wonders why more than anything else
[19:20] <dpm> _Ridgewing, generally tracks are based on topics to group a set of sessions, I'm not sure how not or r/Ubuntu could fit as a track. However, if you have anything you'd like to discuss particular to reddit, proposing a session or an item on a roundtable could have been a good idea. I.e. you don't need to ask permission, that's the nice thing about contributing to Ubuntu :-)
[19:20] <balloons> sergiusens, ahh, thanks for the background :-)
[19:20] <popey> there were a _ton_ of questions yesterday
[19:20] <sergiusens> and I suppose it is because dpm started picking questions from people who hadn't had any answered before
[19:20] <dpm> yeah
[19:20] <popey> yeah, you kinda have to
[19:21] <dpm> unfortunately, we couldn't go through all of the questions
[19:21] <popey> we used to have to do that with marks Q&A
[19:21] <popey> he used to get flooded in the first 10 mins :)
[19:21] <sergiusens> LXD IS awesome!
[19:21] <dpm> I mentioned it on the hangout, I had to start being selective, so apologies to anyone who didn't get their questions asked
[19:21] <dpm> however,
[19:21] * _Ridgewing feels too unworthy to ask Jane for an iAMA.
[19:21] <dpm> I'm pretty certain every person got at least one question (if not more) answered
[19:22] <popey> _Ridgewing, feel free to email one of us and we'll forward it on if you don't want to
[19:22] <popey> (but really, she's very approachable)
[19:22] <_Ridgewing> ok, will do.
[19:22] <balloons> yea, https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/try-it/ is cool
[19:22] <balloons> try it!
[19:22] * therealpopey hugs popey
[19:23] <popey> O_O
[19:23] <dpm> that kind of gives away who therealpopey is
[19:23] * _Ridgewing hope therealpopey isn't a splinter group !
[19:23] <popey> hehe
[19:23] <therealpopey> :-)
[19:23] <balloons> I think we lost popey2 and popey3
[19:23] <mhall119> quick, clone some more
[19:23] <therealpopey> all right all right... I guess I'm late for the popey party
[19:24] <dobey> they're all just a bunch of popets
[19:24] <popey> *applause*
[19:25] <balloons> where do popey clones go when they umm, pass on?
[19:25] <dobey> carousel
[19:26] <wxl> renew!
[19:26] <wxl> renew!
[19:26] <dobey> :)
[19:31] <balloons> for those counting, yes you can see 4 doors in my background
[19:34] <dobey> you shouldn't do hangouts from hotel california
[19:36] <balloons> are you saying I can leave then?
[19:36] <dobey> obviously not. those doorways are portals unto themselves
[19:37] <wxl> nooooooooooo not flash
[19:38] <dobey> wxl: no spoilers!
[19:38] <popey> FLASH!
[19:38] * balloons runs shaken from such a sight of popey
[19:39] <popey> waiting for my neighbour to light a massive firework
[19:41] <dpm> popey, make sure to unmute!
[19:41] <popey> omg, no much noise!
[19:42] <_Ridgewing> my video isn't working.
[19:42] <_Ridgewing> oh now it is .. now it isnt .. oh now it is .... etc etc
[19:42] <popey> stop blinking
[19:42] <dobey> yay bufferring
[19:43] <dholbach> baby noises! :-)
[19:44] <dpm> getting new contributors into Ubuntu early
[19:44] <dholbach> haha, yes
[19:44] <mhall119> gah, chrome has gone crazy and is slaughtering my hard drive
[19:44] <balloons> popey, I love the backlight
[19:44] <popey> lava lamp
[19:44] <balloons> it's like apocalypse popey
[19:44] <dpm> popey doing the guy fawlkes impression
[19:44] <wxl> mhall119: blame pepperflash :)
[19:44] <dpm> (or whatever it's spelled)
[19:45] <balloons> popey is the new black!
[19:45] <mhall119> everytime I open the Dash, Chrome seems to want to write all 3Gb of it's ram usage to swap
[19:45] <balloons> live more on the edge mhall119. No swap
[19:46] <popey> \o/ js scopes
[19:46] <mhall119> no chrome is easier
[19:46] <balloons> js copes!!!
[19:46] <balloons> fireworks!
[19:46] <_Ridgewing> Just wondering but what are people's "non-Recommended for you" videos to the right-hand-side of the youtube feed ?
[19:47] <popey> My legal council recommends i don't answer that.
[19:47] <dpm> we should make "jscopes" official
[19:48] <_Ridgewing> Here's my screenshot : http://imgur.com/no1Cjpp
[19:48] <alecu> eat your vegetables!
[19:48] <nhaines> You're welcome!
[19:49] <hwpplayer1> What was the topic ?
[19:49] <dobey> _Ridgewing: ask youtube. the're recommendations based on your history and what you're watching
[19:49] <alecu> Thanks to all for the summit!
[19:49] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone!
[19:49] <dpm> ____ _ ____ _______ __ _____ ___ __ __ _____
[19:49] <dpm> | _ \ / \ | _ \_ _\ \ / / |_ _|_ _| \/ | ____|
[19:49] <dpm> | |_) / _ \ | |_) || | \ V / | | | || |\/| | _|
[19:49] <dpm> | __/ ___ \| _ < | | | | | | | || | | | |___
[19:49] <dpm> |_| /_/ \_\_| \_\|_| |_| |_| |___|_| |_|_____|
[19:49] <nhaines> Haha, we'll have Ubuntu Drinking Summit at Ubucon Summit. :D
[19:49] <_Ridgewing> dobey: Not all of them !
[19:49] <dholbach> :-D
[19:49] <dpm> good work everyone
[19:49] <popey> \o/
[19:49] <dobey> _Ridgewing: yes all of them. :)
[19:49] <hwpplayer1> thanks
[19:49] <nhaines> Thanks to everyone's hard work. :)
[19:50] * _Ridgewing wonders if viewers have the same videos ?
[19:50] <balloons> here's to a great UOS
[19:50] <ahayzen> \o/
[19:50] <dobey> no, i see different videos there
[19:50] <_Ridgewing> dobey: Prove it ! (screenshot)
[19:50] <balloons> by definition.. _Ridgewing <> dobey
[19:50] <balloons> therefore his videos are not yours
[19:51] <_Ridgewing> Yes, but I'd to know what other peoples' are.
[19:51] <dobey> well some are possibly the same
[19:51] <_Ridgewing> ahh !
[19:51] <dobey> some are other UOS or UDS videos
[19:52] <dobey> or ubuntu on air videos
[19:52] <_Ridgewing> Where's the overflow video session ?
[19:52] <dobey> some are other "online summit" videos for random things, but because they were done via google hangouts, appear as "related"
[19:52] <_Ridgewing> dobey, screnshot'll do fine.
[19:53] <_Ridgewing> Where's the overflow video session ?
[19:53] <dobey> if you want to know the algorithm, get a job at google working on youtube related/recommended videos :)
[19:53] <hwpplayer1> what do you think about erlang
[19:54] <dobey> what about erlang?
[19:54] <hwpplayer1> which is good for mission critical software
[19:54] <_Ridgewing> why would I want to know the algorithm ? Just wanna know what video are there FOR YOU.
[19:54] <dobey> my experiences with erlang are not good
[19:54] <hwpplayer1> like what ? dobey
[19:54] <_Ridgewing> Where's the overflow video session ?
[19:54] <dobey> _Ridgewing: well, why do you care what youtube recommends for me? that's for me to know, not you :)
[19:55] <dobey> hwpplayer1: couchdb
[19:55] <_Ridgewing> dobey: Privacy is not transparency in my book, but there you go. I guess commeradery can fail, sometimes
[19:56] <hwpplayer1> i saw that db on startpage
[19:56] <hwpplayer1> thanks
[19:56] <hwpplayer1> can we use postgres
[19:56] <dobey> _Ridgewing: there is no "summary" for "overflow" which is just a special track for managing the schedule when people want
[19:57] <dobey> _Ridgewing: privacy is privacy. and it's my choice whether i want to share any private information or not. you begging me to do so isn't going to change my mind :)
[19:57] <dobey> hwpplayer1: you can use whatever db you want to use
[19:57] <_Ridgewing> dobey: Cool down man , It's your walled garden,
[19:57] <hwpplayer1> ok i understand
[19:58] <hwpplayer1> by the way ubuntu hangouts are very good
[19:58] <hwpplayer1> yesterday i watched CEO
[19:58] <_Ridgewing> we all did.
[19:58] <hwpplayer1> Have a good day
[19:58] <hwpplayer1> take care
[19:59] <hwpplayer1> bye
[19:59] <_Ridgewing> Popey cam lies ! http://popey.com/webcam/
[19:59] <_Ridgewing> It's night time there, now.
[19:59] <hwpplayer1> ok here too
[20:00] <dpm> have a nice rest of the day everyone! o/
[20:00] <popey> o/
[20:01] <_Ridgewing> popey, Where do we hangout now ?#
[20:01] <dobey> give it a few months ChanServ, there'll be another session then
[20:01] <popey> #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-discuss #ubuntu-uk #ubuntu-community-team
[20:01] <popey> lots of places
[20:03] * _Ridgewing re-furls and puts away his Free Software fleg, for another six months.
[20:05] <_Ridgewing> We fought well. But I think Jane the CEO took CTFlag this year !
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-cn
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[01:39] <^k^> ๆๆ ๆฐๅธ ่ฎฒไธช็ฌ่ฏๅง: ๅฐๅญฆ็ไฝๆๅๅฅ้็ป : ๆๅๅๅญฆๆๆๆไธ่ตท้ช่ฝฆๅบ้จ็ฉ,ไป็ๆฐ้จ่ฏๅไบ,ๆๅฐฑๆๆ็ๆไธๆฅ็ปไป่ฃ
ไธ,ๆไฟฉไธ่ตท้ซ้ซๅ
ดๅ
ด้ช่ฝฆๅๅฎถไบใ
[01:48] <onlylove_> http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/445147.htm
[01:48] <ubrl> onlylove_: โช ๅพฎ่ฝฏๅฎฃๅธไธ็บขๅธฝๅปบ็ซๅไฝไผไผดๅ
ณ็ณป_Microsoft ๅพฎ่ฝฏ_cnBeta.COM
[01:49] <onlylove__> ๆณๆณSGI NOKIA IBM
[01:51] <onlylove__> ๅๅค็ป็ซ็ซ็น่ก
[01:56] <RivDo> ็น่ก๏ผ
[02:27] <^k^> ๆฐ ๅๅญฆ่
ๅญๅฐ - 15.10 โข ๅ
ณไบไธคๅฐ่ทฏ็ฑๅจ็Ubuntuๆบ็ไธ่ฝๆดๆฐ้ฎ้ข http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473700 ้ฆๅ
๏ผไธ็ฅ้่ฏฅๆไน่ตทไธชๅ็กฎๆ ้ขใ ็ฐๅจๆ้ๅฐ็ๆ
ๅตๆฏ่ฟๆ ท๏ผๆ็็ต่็ฝ็ป๏ผๆฏ็ป่ฟไบไธคๅฐ่ทฏ็ฑๅจ่ฟๆฅ็๏ผ็ฌฌไธๅฐ่ทฏ็ฑๅจA็ฝๅ
ณๆฏ192.168.1.1๏ผ็ฌฌไบๅฐ็่ทฏ็ฑๅจB็ฝๅ
ณๆฏ192.168.2.
[02:27] <^k^> โ> 1๏ผDNS้ฝๅทฒ็ป่ฎพ็ฝฎไบ่ฟไธคไธช็ฝๅ
ณ๏ผ็จ็ๆฏVistual Box ๅฎ่ฃ
็Ubuntu Server๏ผๆ็จ็้ๆIPๆฏ192.168. โฆ
[03:38] <stardiviner> ไปๅคฉๆฒกไบบ้ฟ
[03:38] <stardiviner> test
[03:38] <ubrl> stardiviner:็น็น็น. 11:35
[03:42] <^k^> ๆฐ ็ณป็ปๅฎ่ฃ
ๅๅ็บง โข ใๆฑๅฉใ็จVMwareๅฎ่ฃ
snappyๅบ็ฐ้่ฏฏ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473701 ๆบ๏ผhttp://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/15.04/core/stable/current/core-stable-amd64-cloud.ova ๅนณๅฐ๏ผVMware workstations 11 OS๏ผwin10 ้ฎ้ข๏ผๅฏผๅ
ฅ่ๆๆบ่ฟ็จไธญๅบ็ฐ๏ผ Code: [13.355719] cloud-init[741]:ci-info: | Route
[03:42] <^k^> โ> r | Destinationย |ย ย Gatewayย ย |ย ย Genmaskย ย | Interface | Flags | [13.356542] cloud-init[741]:ci-info: +-- โฆ
[03:56] <uuair> hi๏ผๆ็จ็ๆฏubuntu15็็ณป็ป๏ผ่ฏท้ฎไธไธ๏ผๅssh่ฝฌๅ๏ผ้่ฆ้
็ฝฎๅชไบๅ่ฝ๏ผๆฏไธๆฏๅผๅฏip forwardingๅฐฑๅฏไปฅไบ๏ผiptables้่ฆ่ฎพ็ฝฎไน๏ผ
[04:07] <kandu> uuair: ไธ็จ๏ผไธ้่ฆ
[04:14] <onlylove1> test
[04:14] <ubrl> onlylove1:็น็น็น. 12:11
[04:33] <acacio> windows8.1่ชๅธฆ็่ฟ็จๆก้ขใVNC vierwer้ฝ่ฟไธไธubt15.10ๆไบบ้ๅฐ่ฟๆฒกใ
[04:54] <uuair> kandu: ไฝๆฏๅพๅฅๆช๏ผๆๆฐๅปบไบไธไธชubuntu15็ๆๅกๅจ๏ผๅฆๅคไธๅฐๆๅกๅจ่ฝฌๅๅฐ่ฟ้๏ผautossh็ๅฝไปคๆฒกๅ๏ผไฝๆฏ่ฟๅฐๆๅกๅบiๅด่ฎฟ้ฎไธๅฐ
[04:54] <uuair> iptables็็ซฏๅฃๅทฒ็ปๅผไบ
[04:55] <uuair> ้่ฆ่ฝฌๅ็ไบcentos7๏ผ่ฝฌๅๆๅกๅจๆฏubuntu15๏ผ่ท่ฟไธชๆๅ
ณ็ณปไน๏ผ
[04:56] <nipsing> hi
[04:56] <ubrl> nipsing:็น็น็น. 12:53
[04:56] <nipsing> ๅคงๅๅฅฝ
[05:56] <onlylove_> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46056
[05:56] <ubrl> โช t: Solidot | ็ ็ฉถไบบๅๅ็ฐ้พไปฅๅ ้ค็่ชๅจrootๅนฟๅ่ฝฏไปถ
[05:57] <vickycq-bpi> yangdawei: hi
[05:57] <yangdawei> hah
[05:57] <yangdawei> haha
[05:57] <vickycq-bpi> 8001ๅฏไปฅ็จ๏ผ
[05:58] <yangdawei> ssl with 6697
[05:58] <^k^> ๆๆ ๆฐๅธ ่ฎฒไธช็ฌ่ฏๅง: ่ฟ็ฝๅญไธๆผ : ๆไธไธช็ทไบบไปๅฎถ้ๆฟไบไธไธช็ฝๅญๅฐๅธๅบไธๅปๅใไธไธชไบบ็ไบ ไธไธๅฏนไป่ฏด:่ฟ็ฝๆฏๆผ็ใๆไนๅฏ่ฝๅข? ไป่ฏด,ๆๆฏไบฒไธ็ด็จๅฎ่ฃ
ๆฃ่ฑ,ไปๆฒกๆผ่ฟใ่ฟ็ฝๅญไธๆผใ
[05:58] <yangdawei> How you can recognize me so quickly?
[05:58] <vickycq-bpi> ๆๆฒกๅ
ณไธไธ็บฟๆ็คบ
[05:58] <yangdawei> ๆไบบไธ็บฟ๏ผ้ฉฌไธๅฐฑๆๆ็คบ...
[05:59] <vickycq-bpi> yangdawei ([email protected]) has joined #ubuntu-cn
[05:59] <vickycq-bpi> yangdawei ([email protected]) has joined #debian-cn
[05:59] <yangdawei> ๆ่ฐขๆๅผๆๆฅๅฐirc
[06:00] <vickycq-bpi> ๆ็ไธ่ฏด่ฏ็ไบบๅค
[06:00] <yangdawei> ไฝ ๅนณๆถไน็จlatexๅ
[06:00] <vickycq-bpi> ็ฐๅจไธๅคช็จไบ๏ผๅบๆฌๅฟไบ
[06:00] <yangdawei> ๅพๅฅๆชๅ๏ผ้ฃไฝ ๅนณๆถ้ฝๅจๅๅฅ
[06:01] <yangdawei> ไฝ ๅ้ฃไธชpoloshiaoๅ็ญ้ฎ้ข็่ตทๆฅๅฅฝ้ซๆทฑ
[06:01] <vickycq-bpi> ไปๆฏ้ซไบบ
[06:01] <onlylove_> ่ๅฎ่ฏด๏ผ้ฃไธชๆนพๆนพไธๆไน้ ่ฐฑ
[06:02] <vickycq-bpi> ๆๆฏไธชๅฐ็ฝ
[06:02] <onlylove_> ็ญๅฟๆฏๅพ็ญๅฟ
[06:02] <vickycq-bpi> ๆๆฏ็ฐๅญฆ็ฐๅ
[06:02] <onlylove_> ไฝๆฏๆไบ้ฎ้ขไปๅ็ญ็ๆ นๆฌๅ้ขไธป็ๆ้ฎๆฒกๅ
ณ็ณป
[06:02] <yangdawei> ไน่ฎธๆฏ้ซไบบๅฏๅฏๅง๏ผpoloshiao็ๅ็ญๆ็่งฃ่ตทๆฅๆ็น่ดนๅฒใ
[06:02] <yangdawei> ไฝ็กฎๅฎๅพ็ญๆ
๏ผไธๅฎ่ฆ่งฃๅณ้ฎ้ข็ๆ ทๅญใ
[06:04] <yurakucho> yangdawei: ไปๅพไธไธ, ไฝๆฏไธๆฏๅคง้ไบบ, ๅฏ่ฝไฝ ไธๅคง้ๅบ ้ๅฃ่ฏญๅ็่งฃ้
[06:04] <yangdawei> ๆ่งๅบๆฅไบ๏ผๅพ้พๅพๅ
[06:04] <yangdawei> poloshiaoๅพไปคไบบ้ฆไฝฉ
[06:05] <onlylove> yurakucho: ๆ้ฎๅฟ
็ญ่ไธไธ๏ผไผฐ่ฎกไธๅฆไฝ ๅง
[06:05] <yurakucho> onlylove: ๆๅฅ้ฝไธไผๅ
[06:05] <onlylove> yurakucho: ่ฃ
๏ผไฝ ็ปง็ปญ่ฃ
[06:05] <yangdawei> ่ฆ่ฏด็ฝ่ฟๆฏๆๆ็ฝ
[06:06] <yangdawei> ๆๆฏๅๆจๅทฅ็จไธๆฅ็
[06:06] <onlylove> yurakucho: ็ไปๅ็ญ้ฃไนๅค้ฎ้ข๏ผไปไปไนๆฐดๅนณๆ่ฟๆฏๅคงๆฆๆธ
ๆฅ็
[06:06] <yangdawei> ChanServ:
[06:07] <yurakucho> onlylove: ไป็็็ๆ
[06:07] <vickycq-bpi> ่ฆ่ฐๅๆบๅจไบบ๏ผๆพ ubrl
[06:07] <vickycq-bpi> ubrl, hallo
[06:07] <^k^> ooOO_OOoo: ๆRHๅคงไธญๅๅบ้ฆๅธญๆต่ฏๅฎ
[06:08] <yangdawei> ๆๅ่ฟubuntu่ฎจๅไธๅฐไธๅนดๅง๏ผๅพๅค้ฎ้ข้ฝๆฏvickycqๅpoloshiaoๅ็ญ็ใ
[06:09] <yangdawei> ๅ็ญ้ฝๅธฆ้พๆฅ๏ผๆนไพฟๆฅ่ฏขๅญฆไน ใๅฏนๆๆ้ซ่ฎค่ฏ่ตทไบๅพๅคงไฝ็จใ
[06:09] <onlylove__> yurakucho: ไปไธๆญขไธๆฌก่ฏฏๅฏผไบบ๏ผไป็ๆไธชๆฏ็บฟ
[06:09] <yangdawei> ๅจๅฎ่ทตไธญๅญฆไน ๏ผๆ้่ฆ็ๆฏๆไบบๅธฆใ
[06:10] <yangdawei> onlylove่ฏด็ๆฏ่ฐ
[06:10] <onlylove__> yurakucho: ไฝ ๅฆๆ่ฏดastoia๏ผๅคงๆฆๆฏ่ฟไธช๏ผ็ๆ๏ผๆๆ ่ฏๅฏ่ฏด๏ผไฝๆฏไฝ ่ฆ่ฏดๆ้ฎๅฟ
็ญ่๏ผๆๅฐฑๅตๅตไธ
[06:11] <yangdawei> ๆๆธๆบๅ๏ผๆฒกๆณจๆ่ฟใ
[06:11] <vickycq-bpi> ไป่ฏด็ poloshiao
[06:12] <yurakucho> onlylove__: ่ฏด็ๆฏpoloshiao
[06:14] <yangdawei> ๆฏ็ซๆฏ้่ฟ่ฎคๅๆฅ่งฃๅณ้ฎ้ข็
[06:14] <yangdawei> ่ฝ่ฑๅคง้ๆถ้ดๅ็ญ้ฎ้ขๅทฒ็ปๅพ้พๅพไบ
[06:22] <onlylove> yurakucho: http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=472949
[06:23] <ubrl> โช f: ๅๆ ้ข่ถ
ๆถ execution expired
[06:23] <yurakucho> onlylove: ่ฏด็ๅไธๆฏ่ฟไธชไบบ
[06:23] <onlylove> yurakucho: ็่ฟไธชๅธๅญ็ไบๆฅผ๏ผ่ฟๆฏ้ฃๆ้ฎๅฟ
็ญ่ๅผบๅคไบ
[06:23] <onlylove> yurakucho: ๆ็ฅ้ไฝ ่ฏด็ไธๆฏไป
[06:23] <yurakucho> ๆไธ่ทไฝ ไบ...
[06:23] <onlylove> ๆ่ฏด็ๆฏไบๅฎ๏ผไฝ ไบไธ่ฟ๏ผๅฝ็ถไธไบ
[06:23] <yurakucho> ๅฅฝ
[06:24] <onlylove> ไฝ ้่ฎบๅๆถ้ดๆๆๅคไน
[06:24] <nipsing> ๅน็้ผไธไธ็จ
[06:25] <onlylove> ่ฐๅน็ไธไธ็จไบ๏ผๅตๅต
[06:25] <nipsing> ๆ
[06:27] <nipsing> ๅฆๆฏ็ๆ ่
[06:30] <FranX> so
[06:30] <FranX> what
[06:30] <nipsing> ๆทท็ๅคชๅทฎ ๆฒก่ธ่งไบบไบ
[06:31] <yangdawei> ๆไนctrl+cๅฐ็ๅ
ๅฎน็ฒๅธๅฐvimไธญ๏ผ
[06:31] <yurakucho> "+p
[06:31] <rtl8188etv> ็็ป็ซฏ
[06:31] <nipsing> ็่ฏดๆ
[06:31] <FranX> ๅคๅถ้ป่ดด้ฝไธไผไบไน
[06:31] <vickycq-bpi> ็็จ็็ป็ซฏ
[06:31] <yangdawei> ๆ่ฏไบ่ฏ " p
[06:31] <yangdawei> ๆฒกๅฅฝไฝฟ
[06:31] <nipsing> ๆจ่ neovim
[06:31] <FranX> ๅฐฑๆฏ็ฎๅ็ insert ็ถๅ C + v ๅ
[06:32] <vickycq-bpi> ๆๅฟไบๆฏๅฆ้่ฆ vim ็ผ่ฏๅผๅฏ +clipboard ๆฏๆ
[06:32] <yangdawei> ๆ็จ็ๆฏxfce4-terminal
[06:32] <vickycq-bpi> ้ฃๆฏ Ctrl + Shift + v
[06:32] <vickycq-bpi> ไฝไธๆฏ vim ็
[06:32] <nipsing> neovim 21ไธ็บช็vim
[06:32] <FranX> neoๆๅจ็จ
[06:32] <nipsing> ่ฟ่กๅง
[06:33] <vickycq-bpi> debian ็ vim ่ฟไธชๅ
ๆฒกๆ +clipboard ๆฏๆ
[06:33] <yangdawei> ๆฏๅ
[06:33] <nipsing> ๆฒๅฌไบ
[06:33] <yangdawei> ็ๆฅๆๆฏ็ฒไธไธไบ
[06:33] <vickycq-bpi> ไฝ็จ็ป็ซฏ็ๅคๅถ็ฒ่ดดๅฏไปฅ
[06:33] <yangdawei> ๆฏ็๏ผ็ป็ซฏ็ๆฏC-S-c C-S-v
[06:33] <vickycq-bpi> ่ฟๅ
ฅๆๅ
ฅๆจกๅผ๏ผ Ctrl + Shift + v ไธๅฏไปฅ๏ผ
[06:34] <vickycq-bpi> ๅบ่ฏฅๅฏไปฅ็
[06:34] <rtl8188etv> ไฝ็จ็ไธๆฏ vim ้ฃไธๅฅๅช่ดดๆฟๅฐฑๆฏไบ
[06:34] <yangdawei> ๅชๆฏๆๅ
ฅๅฐไธ้ข
[06:34] <FranX> ้ป่ดด้ฝไธไผ็จ
[06:34] <FranX> ็ๆฏๆไบ
[06:34] <yangdawei> ใใใ่ฟๅฅ่ฏๆ็น่ฎฉๆ้ชๆถไบ
[06:34] <FranX> ่ฟไน่ดนไบๅฐฑ่ตถ็ดง็จgeditๅง
[06:34] <FranX> ๆ่
notepad
[06:35] <vickycq-bpi> ๆๅ
ฅๅฐไธ้ข
[06:35] <yangdawei> ่ฎฉFranX่ง็ฌไบ
[06:35] <yangdawei> : ้ฃไธ่กไธญ
[06:35] <FranX> ๆดป็ๆถ้ด่ถ้ฟ๏ผ่งๅพๅฅ่ฉ่ถๅค
[06:36] <yangdawei> ๆฏๅ๏ผ่ตท็นไฝ๏ผๆฐดๅนณๅทฎใๆฑๅฉing
[06:36] <vickycq-bpi> ๆฏ่ฆ็ฒ่ดดๅฐ : ไธ่กไธญ๏ผ
[06:36] <nipsing> ๅฆไฝ่ฟๅ
ฅๅคฉๅ
[06:36] <rtl8188etv> ๆ่ฏไบ ็จ็ป็ซฏ็ C-S-v ไนๅฏไปฅ
[06:37] <yangdawei> ไธ๏ผๆณ็ฒๅธๅฐๆญฃๆไธญ
[06:37] <nipsing> ๅผ็จvimๅง,ไฝ ๅไธๆฏๅคง็ฅ
[06:37] <vickycq-bpi> ้ฃๅจๆๅ
ฅๆจกๅผ C-S-v
[06:38] <FranX> nvim
[06:38] <nipsing> ๅผๅฏๅๆงฝๆจกๅผ
[06:38] <vickycq-bpi> ๅฝ็ถ ไนๅฏไปฅ็จ Xorg ็ Primary Selection
[06:39] <vickycq-bpi> ๅณ ้ไธญๆๅญๅคๅถ๏ผ Shift + Insert ็ฒ่ดด
[06:39] <nipsing> vim ๆฏไธไธชๆถไปฃ้็็ไบง็ฉ
[06:39] <nipsing> โฎ(โฏโฝโฐ)โญ
[06:39] <FranX> viๆฏ็ผ่พๅจไน็ฅ
[06:39] <FranX> emacsๆฏ็ฅ็็ผ่พๅจ
[06:39] <nipsing> ไนๅคงไพฟ
[06:39] <FranX> ๆไธ็ด็จvim
[06:40] <FranX> ๅฅฝ็จๅพไธๅพไบ
[06:40] <nipsing> ๆไธไฟก
[06:40] <FranX> ็ฑไฟกไธไฟก
[06:40] <FranX> vim้ๅธธๅฅฝ็ฉ
[06:40] <FranX> ๅช่ฆไฝ ็ฑๆ่
พ
[06:40] <nipsing> ๆๅๆฌขide
[06:40] <FranX> ้ไพฟ
[06:40] <FranX> ๅฏๆ็ๅฝๅฏๆ
[06:41] <nipsing> ๆๆฏ็ฅ,ไฝ ไฟกไธ
[06:41] <FranX> ไฝ ๆฏ็ฅ็ป็
๏ผๆไฟก
[06:41] <nipsing> ไฝ ็ ๅนฝ้ป
[06:41] <FranX> ไธ่ฐข
[06:42] <nipsing> ่ฏท้ฎๅ
ๅฐๆฏๅชๆก้ไธ็
[06:42] <FranX> ็
็ๅฑฑไธ็
[06:42] <nipsing> ๆพไฝ ๅจ็้ฃๅฅ
[06:42] <FranX> yangdawei: ๅซ็จvimไบ๏ผ็จnvimๅง
[06:44] <FranX> nipsing: ไฝ ๅ็
ไบ๏ผ
[06:47] <FranX> neovim็ฐๅจๆฏ0.1.0็ๆฌ
[06:47] <FranX> baby version
[06:47] <FranX> ่vimๅทฒ็ป7.3le
[06:48] <lainme> nvimๆไปไนๅฅฝ
[06:48] <nipsing> +1 (703) 482-0623 ๆ่ฟไธช็ต่ฏ,ๅฐฑ่ฏดๆพ nipsing ้ฉฌไธๆไบบ็ฝฉไฝ ......
[06:51] <nipsing> ๅๅคๅไบ็น ๆ ๆๆๆดไฝณ
[06:54] <MangHuo> yurakucho: mkfs ็ fat32 ๆฏ fat ่ฟๆฏ vfat ๅข
[06:58] <onlylove1> MangHuo: fat32่ช็ถๆฏvfat
[06:58] <onlylove1> MangHuo: ่ฟไธไธ่ฟๆ็งไธ่ฅฟๅซfat16
[06:59] <MangHuo> onlylove1: ..
[06:59] <onlylove1> MangHuo: ๅๆฉไธ็น๏ผ่ฟๆfat12
[07:00] <nipsing> ้ฉฌ่ตฐๆฐ
[07:00] * kandu ๅฝๅนด่ฟๅ่ฟ fat12 ็้ฉฑๅจ
[07:01] <onlylove__> kandu: ๆๅค่ฃ๏ผ็ฐๅจ็ฅ้fat12็ไธๅคไบ
[07:01] <onlylove__> kandu: ไธ็ๅฐฑๆฏไปdosๅ ้็ฌๅบๆฅ็
[07:02] <kandu> onlylove__: ไปๅฐ้ธ็ๅ ้็ฌๅบๆฅ็
[07:02] <kandu> onlylove__: ๅฐๅญฆๆถๅจๅฐ้ธ็ๅญฆไน ๆบไธๅๆธธๆ
[07:03] <nipsing> ๆๆฆ
[07:03] * yurakucho ๅฝๅนดๆน่ฟmkfs.vfat
[07:03] <onlylove__> kandu: ๅซๆๅฐ้ธ็ไบ๏ผๅๅ ๅคฉ็ไธช้ๅฑฑๅฎฃไผ ่ชๅทฑ่ฑไบๅ ๅไธไนฐไบxeon็ๆฐๆๅกๅจ๏ผๆๅฐฑๅจๆณ๏ผ้พ้ไปไนๅ็จ็็ๆฏไผ ่ฏดไธญ็ๅฐ้ธ็
[07:04] <yangdawei> ๆๅจemacs้็จไบevilๅ
๏ผๅณvim็ผ่พๅ่ฝใไฝฟ็จ"+pๅฏไปฅๅฐ็ณป็ปไธญ็ๅฏๅญไธญ็ๅ
ๅฎน็ฒๅธๅฐemacsไธญ็ใ
[07:04] <yangdawei> ๅฏๆฏๅจvimไธญๅดไธๅฅฝ็จไบใ
[07:06] * onlylove__ ็ฅ้ๅฝๅนดvfatๆฏๆไธบๅฅ้ฃไนๅทฎไบ๏ผๅๅ ๆฏadamๆน็
[07:06] * onlylove__ ้ปadamไธ็พไบ
[07:07] <yangdawei> ๅ่ฏๅฅฝไบC-S-v
[07:07] <FranX> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cn/education/linux/l-emacs/l-emacs.html
[07:07] <ubrl> โช t: ็ๆดปๅจ Emacs ไธญ
[07:07] <yangdawei> ๅๅฅฝvickycq็ๅปบ่ฎฎๆฏๅฏน็
[07:07] * yurakucho ๅฆๅฆๅฆ~
[07:08] <yangdawei> ๅผฑ้ฎไธช้ฎ้ข๏ผๅจ่ฟ้ๆไน@ๅ
ทไฝๆไธชไบบ
[07:08] <vickycq-bpi> ็ดๆฅๆๅฏนๆนๅๅญ๏ผ็จ tab ่กฅๅ
จ
[07:08] <MangHuo> yurakucho: ่ฟ
้ทๅฟซไผ ็ไนๆไนไธ่ฝฝ็ๅ
[07:08] <vickycq-bpi> ไธ่ฌircๅฎขๆท็ซฏ็่ฎพ็ฝฎๆฏ้ซไบฎ่ชๅทฑๅๅญ
[07:09] <yurakucho> MangHuo: ่ฟ
้ท็ฆป็บฟๅ
[07:09] <kandu> yangdawei: ่ฆ่ฃ
gvim(็ผ่ฏ้้กน +x) ๆ่ฝ "+p
[07:09] <MangHuo> yurakucho: https://github.com/iambus/xunlei-lixian?
[07:09] <ubrl> โช f: iambus/xunlei-lixian ยท GitHub
[07:09] <yurakucho> MangHuo: yep
[07:09] <yangdawei> vickycq-bpi, ่ฐข่ฐขใ
[07:10] <vickycq-bpi> yangdawei: ;-)
[07:10] <yangdawei> vickycq-bpi, ไฝ ็ๅๅญ้ซไบฎไบๅ
[07:10] <kandu> yurakucho: ๅนๅนๅฅๅฅๅฅฝ
[07:10] <kandu> lainme: ้้ณๅงๅงๅฅฝ
[07:10] <wbchn> ่ฟไธชๅaria2 ๅชไธชๆดๅ้๏ผ
[07:10] <yurakucho> kandu: ไน
[07:11] <yangdawei> kandu, ไฝ ๆฏ่ฏด็ผ่ฏๅฎ่ฃ
vimๅ
[07:11] <onlylove___> test
[07:11] <ubrl> onlylove___:็น็น็น. 15:08
[07:11] <yurakucho> MangHuo: http://www.id97.com/tools/sharevip
[07:11] <kandu> yangdawei: ubuntu ๆ้ข็ผ่ฏ็. aptitude show gvim
[07:11] <ubrl> yurakucho: โช ่ฟ
้ทVIPๅธๅทๅไบซ-PVideos,97็ตๅฝฑ็ฝ,ไธ็จไธ่ฝฝๆญๆพๅจ็็ตๅฝฑ็ฝ็ซ,ไธ็จไธ่ฝฝๆญๆพๅจ็็ตๅฝฑ็ฝ็ซ
[07:11] <onlylove___> MangHuo: ่ฆไธ่ฆ่ฏ่ฏxware
[07:11] <wbchn> MangHuo: ็ดๆฅ็จๅฝไปค็ฉlx๏ผ
[07:12] <yangdawei> kandu, ๆ็จ็ๆฏdebian
[07:12] <yangdawei> kandu, ้็ๆฏไธๆ ท็ๅ
[07:12] <Madper> xwareๅฅฝ็จ
[07:12] <FranX> ๆไนๅๅค็จdebina
[07:12] <kandu> yangdawei: ๅฏใๆไน็จ debian
[07:12] <FranX> ่ฟๆFedora
[07:13] <FranX> ่ฟๆOpenSUSE
[07:13] <yurakucho> MangHuo: lixian_cli.py --verification-code-handler=ascii
[07:13] <yangdawei> kandu, ้ฃๆ็ฐๅจๅธไบvim๏ผ้่ฃ
ไธ้ๅ
[07:13] <kandu> yangdawei: ไธ็จ๏ผ็ดๆฅ apt-get install vim-gtk
[07:15] <yangdawei> kandu, ๅฐฑๆฏๅฎ่ฃ
ไธไธช็ชๅฃvim
[07:15] <yangdawei> ๆ่ฏ่ฟไบ๏ผ็ๆฅๅๆไธ่ฝๅจvimไธญ็จ"+p็ฒๅธ็ๅๅ ๆฏ็ป็ซฏ้ ๆ็
[07:16] <yangdawei> xfce4-terminalไธญ็จC S vๆฏๅฏไปฅ็ฒๅธ็ใ
[07:18] * yurakucho ๆ็xtermไนๅฏไปฅ
[07:18] <iIlL10Oo> "*p
[07:18] * yurakucho brb
[07:19] <kandu> yangdawei: ๅ็ป็ซฏๅๆฒกๅ
ณ็ณปใๆ +x ๆฏๆ็ vim, ๅณไฝฟ็ป็ซฏ็ๆฌไน่ฝ่ฏปๅ X ็ฏๅข็ๅช่ดดๆฟใๅฆๆ "+p ็่ฏ๏ผ็ธๅฝไบ็ดๆฅไปๅช่ดดๆฟ่ฏปๅไฟกๆฏๅนถ็ฒ่ดดใๅฆๆ C-S-v ็่ฏ๏ผๆฏ็ป็ป็ซฏๅ้ๆ้ฎๅบๅ๏ผ็ถๅ็ป็ป็ซฏๅค็ๅๅ็ป vim, ๆๆถๅๆๆไธไธๆ ทใ่ไธ C-S-v ็่ฏ้่ฆ็ป็ซฏๆจกๆๅจๆฏๆไธ้
็ฝฎๅฅฝๅฟซๆท้ฎๆๅฅฝ
[07:20] <yangdawei> ่ฏดๅพๅพๆธ
ๆฅ
[07:20] <kandu> yangdawei: ๆฏๅฆ vim ๅคไบ normal ๆจกๅผใ้่ฟ็ป็ซฏ็ฒ่ดด ab ็่ฏ๏ผๅชไผๅๅ
ฅ b, ๅ ไธบ a ๅฝไฝๆ้ฎไฝฟๅพ vim ่ฟๅ
ฅ insert ๆจกๅผใๅฆๆ็ดๆฅ "+p ็่ฏ๏ผๅฐฑๆฏ ab ไธคไธชๅญ็ฌฆ
[07:20] <yangdawei> ๆถจ็ฅ่ฏไบ
[07:21] <yangdawei> ็่งฃ๏ผaๆฏๆๅ
ฅๅฝไปค
[07:22] <yangdawei> ็ฐๅจๅฅฝ่ฑก"+pๅๅฅฝไฝฟไบ
[07:22] <yangdawei> ๅฅๆช๏ผๅๆๆไฝ็ๆฅๆฒกๅๅฏนใ
[07:24] <yangdawei> ๅๆๆฅๆพไธญๅ็ฐๅๆฅvimไธญๆ12ไธชๅฏๅญๅจ
[07:25] <yangdawei> :regๅฏไปฅๆพ็คบๅบๅ
จ้จๅ
ๅฎน๏ผ็จ"Np็ๆนๅผๅฏไปฅ้ๆฉ็ฌฌNไธชๅ
ๅฎน็ฒๅธๅบๆฅใ
[07:26] <yangdawei> vimๅฅฝๅผบๅคงๅ
[07:28] <Madper> ... ....
[07:29] <FranX> vimๆฏ็ผ่พๅจไน็ฅ
[07:29] <FranX> God of Editor
[07:29] <yangdawei> ๆ็จไบๅฅฝไธ้ตไบ๏ผๅชๆฏๆฒกๆ็ณป็ปๅญฆ่ฟใ
[07:29] <FranX> yangdawei: ๆๆไฝ ไธชๅฅฝๆนๆณ
[07:29] <vickycq-bpi> ๆ็จไบๅฅฝไธ้ตไบ๏ผๅชๆฏๆฒกๆ็ณป็ปๅญฆ่ฟใ
[07:30] <FranX> ๅจshellไธญvimtutor
[07:30] <vickycq-bpi> second vimtutor
[07:30] <yangdawei> ไธ้๏ผ็ๅฐไบ
[07:30] <FranX> ไปๅคด็ๅฐๅฐพ๏ผๅฐฑๅ
จๆไบ
[07:30] <yangdawei> ่ฟๆฏ่ชๅธฆ็ๆ็จๅง
[07:30] <FranX> ๆฏ็
[07:31] <^k^> ๅๆฐๅธ timeout
[07:32] <FranX> ๆ็ฐๅจๆต่งๅจไนๆฏไฝฟ็จvim
[07:32] <FranX> ไฝ ไนๅฏไปฅ่ฏ่ฏ
[07:32] <FranX> ๅพๅฐไฝฟ็จ่งฆๆธๆฟไบ
[07:32] <yangdawei> ๅพๅฅฝๅ
[07:32] <FranX> ็ญๆๆฅๅ
ฅEmacs๏ผๆๅฐฑไธ็จ้ผ ๆ ไบ
[07:32] <FranX> ไธๅฏน๏ผๆๅทฒ็ปๅฅฝๅ ๅนดไธ็จ้ผ ๆ ไบ
[07:32] <Madper> FranX: emacsๅๅไพ่ต้ผ ๆ ็.
[07:32] <FranX> ็ญๆๆฅๅ
ฅEmacs๏ผๆๅฐฑไธ็จ่งฆๆธๆฟไบ
[07:33] <Madper> FranX: ่งฆๆธๆฟไน่ก.
[07:33] <Madper> FranX: ๆฒกๆ้ผ ๆ , ๅจemacs้้ข็ปๅพไผๅพ่ดนๅฒ
[07:33] <yangdawei> ้ฎไธชemacs็ๅ่ฝ
[07:33] <FranX> ๆๅนฒๅ่ฆๅจemacs้็ปๅพใใใ
[07:34] <yangdawei> FranX, ๆ็จ็githubไธๅ
้็้ๆ็emacs้
็ฝฎ๏ผๅฐฑๆฏ้ฃไธชไธๅนดๆไธบemacs้ซๆ็ไฝ่
ใ
[07:35] <yangdawei> FranX, ่ฎธๆๅ่ฝ้ฝๆฏ่พน็จ่พนๅญฆๅบๆฅ็ใ
[07:35] <FranX> githubๆฏๅฅฝไธ่ฅฟ
[07:35] <yangdawei> FranX, ๆไธชๅ่ฝๅฐฑๆฏๅฐ80ๅ่ชๅจ่ฝฌ่ก
[07:35] <FranX> ๅคไธๅฅน
[07:36] <yangdawei> FranX, ไธ็ฅ้ๅทฒ็ปๅญๅจ็ๅ
ๅฎนๆไน้ๆฐๆด็ไธบ80ๅไปฅๅ
[07:38] <yangdawei> ๅพๅคๆถๅๅฐฑๆฏๆ๏ผๆ็ฐๅจๅฐฑๅป้ๆ้ฃ้ๅๆไบคไธชissueๅง๏ผ้ฎ้ฎไปใ
[07:38] <yangdawei> ๆ็จ/join #vimๅฏไปฅ่ฟๅ
ฅ#vim้ข้๏ผๆไนไธ่ฝๅ่จๅข๏ผ
[07:39] <FranX> ๆไนๅจ่ฟ้
[07:40] <yangdawei> ๅจ#vim้๏ผ
[07:40] <FranX> https://github.com/yuratomo/w3m.vim.git
[07:40] <ubrl> โช t: yuratomo/w3m.vim ยท GitHub
[07:40] <yangdawei> ๅ
[07:40] <yangdawei> ๆ็็
[07:41] <yangdawei> ่ฟๆฏไธชไปไน้กน็ฎ๏ผ็่ตทๆฅๆฏไธชvim็ๆต่งๅจ
[07:41] <yangdawei> ๆไนๆๅผxchat้้ข็้พๆฅ๏ผ
[07:41] <FranX> Emacs้ไนๆฏ้่ฆw3m
[07:41] <yangdawei> ๆฏๅ๏ผๅฏๆๆ่ฟไธไผ็จ
[07:42] <FranX> ไฝ ๅฏไปฅๅ ๅ
ฅ#vim-cn
[07:42] <FranX> ๆ่
#vimcn
[07:44] <FranX> ๅ
่ฃ
ไธชEvil
[07:44] <FranX> ๆ
ขๆ
ข้ๅบEmacs
[07:46] <yangdawei> FranX, ไฝ ๅ้ๅบ#vimcnไบ
[07:46] <yangdawei> ๆฏ็๏ผๆ่งEmacs+Evil้ๅธธๆนไพฟใ
[07:49] <MangHuo> yurakucho: http://kuai.xunlei.com/d/JsfDCgJDNwBMXJZS667 ๆฑๅธฎๅฟไธ่ฝฝ...
[07:49] <ubrl> MangHuo: โช ่ฟ
้ทๅฟซไผ - ไธ่ฝฝๆไปถ
[07:50] <onlylove_> MangHuo: ็นๆฎ้ไธ่ฝฝๅฐฑๆฏ
[07:51] <onlylove1> ไธๅ็ดๆฅไธ๏ผ่ฆ่ฟ
้ทโฆโฆ
[07:54] <yunfan> onlylove1: ๆไนฐไบไธชๆๆ้ฎ็
[07:54] <yunfan> ็ฐๅจๅฐฑๅจ็จ็
[07:56] <onlylove1> yunfan: ไฝ ๅๆฏไปไนไธ่ฅฟๆฐ้ฒๅฐฑ็ฉไปไน
[07:56] <yunfan> onlylove1: ไธป่ฆๆฏ่ฟไธช็่ตทๆฅไธ้ ๆๆ็ๆ่งๅฅฝ
[07:57] <nyfair> ไธ็พคๅป้ผ็บขๅคด้ฟไธ
[07:57] <nyfair> ่ฑๅฝไฝฌๅฝๅนดๆไนๆฒกๅจๅฐๅบฆๆ็งๆ็ญ็ป๏ผ
[07:58] <nyfair> ไปๅฆ10ไบฟๅป้ผ
[07:58] <nyfair> ๅป้ผๅทจ็กฌ๏ผๅป้ผgๅฉ๏ผๅป้ผๅฝceo็ๅป้ผๅ
ฌๅธ
[07:59] <nyfair> ้ฉฌๅๆๅฃ
[07:59] <nyfair> ่ซ่ฟช่ไปไปไนๆถๅๅๅ๏ผ
[07:59] <yurakucho> ... ...
[08:00] <onlylove> ๅตๅต๏ผ่ฟไธชๆๆฏๅนณๆถๅฐๅ300ๅ๏ผ็ๆฅๆฏ็ๆๆฒก็จๅคไบ
[08:00] <nyfair> ้ฉๅฝ้ฉๅฝ๏ผ
[08:00] <nyfair> ๅปๅฐๅบฆ็ปๆฒป้ฟไธ
[08:01] <onlylove> nyfair: ็็ๅปๅฐๅบฆ่ฆๆณจๆไบบ่บซๅฎๅ
จ
[08:01] <nyfair> onlylove: ้ฟไธๆฏไธๆฏ้ฝๆฏๅป้ผ๏ผ
[08:01] <onlylove> nyfair: ๆฏ๏ผๆไปฅไปไปฌๅผบๅฅธ็ๆถๅไธ็ฎกๅฏน้ขๆฏไธๆฏๆญชๆไป
[08:02] <onlylove> nyfair: ๆๅจๆณๅฐๅบฆไบบไปไนๆถๅ่ฎฉ็ฑณๅฝๆธธๅฎข้ญๆฎ๏ผ็ถๅ็ๅฅฅ้ปๆไนๆฉ็ฝๅฐๅบฆ
[08:04] <nyfair> ็งปๆฐ10ไบฟ้ฟไธๅป็พๅฝ๏ผ่ฟๆฉ็ฝๆไนๆ ท๏ผ
[08:06] <onlylove__> ไฝ ่ฟๆฏๆฉ็ฝ้ฟไธ่ฟๆฏๆฉ็ฝ็พๅฝ
[08:07] <nyfair> ้ฟไธๅฏไปฅๅป็พๅฝๅฝๅฅด้ถๅ๏ผ็พๅฝๅฝๅนดไธๅฐฑ้ ้ปๅฅด่ตทๅฎถ็
[08:07] <onlylove__> ็ถๅๅๆฅไธๆฌกๅๅๆไบ๏ผ
[08:08] <onlylove__> ็ถๅๆ้ฉฌไธ่ทฏๅพท้ไปๅ้ๆๅบๆฅ๏ผ่ฎฉไปๅฟต๏ผI have a dream๏ผ
[08:15] <FranX> yangdawei: ๆๅจvimcnไบ
[08:16] <Madper> yurakucho: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/726883/
[08:16] <ubrl> Madper: โช ๅคฉ็ซๅ11็นไปท้ขๅ:OSPREY Manta ๆผๅก ๅ
็ฝฎๆฐด่ขๅ่ฉ่ๅ
625ๅ
ๅ
้ฎ_ๅคฉ็ซ็ฒพ้ไผๆ _ๅ็ฐ้ข้_ไปไนๅผๅพไนฐ
[08:16] <yurakucho> Madper: ๅฅฝ่ดต...
[08:16] <Madper> yurakucho: Oๅ
ไธ็ด่ดตๅ
[08:16] <Madper> yurakucho: ่ฟไธชไธ้ไบ, ไธไธชๆฐด่ขไนๅพ200ๅข
[08:17] <yurakucho> Madper: ่ฟๅคๅฐๅ็
[08:17] <Madper> yurakucho: 20L
[08:17] <Madper> yurakucho: ไฝ ไนฐLๅท, ๅบ่ฏฅๆฏ22Lๅทฆๅณ.
[08:17] <Madper> yurakucho: ๆ็32L, ๆ่งไธๅบๅทฎๆ นๆฌ็จไธๅฐ..
[08:18] <yurakucho> Madper: 28Lๅคงๅฐๆญฃๅ้ๆ่ง
[08:18] <yurakucho> ๅ
ถๅฎๆ20ๅฐฑๅคไบ, ๅๆฅๆฅๅ้ฝ
[08:18] <Madper> yurakucho: ๅซ้น... 28ๅพๅคง็..
[08:18] <Madper> yurakucho: ไฝ ๆๅคๅฐไธ่ฅฟๅ, ้่ฆ28?
[08:18] <yurakucho> Madper: ๆฐดๅๅ็, ๆฒกไบ
[08:18] <yurakucho> ้ฃๅฐฑ20ๅง~
[08:19] <Madper> yurakucho: ๅฆ, ้ฃไฝ ๅบ่ฏฅ15Lๅธฆๆฐด่ข. ๅๆฅ็ๅๅพ, ๆฐด, ่กฃๆ
[08:19] <yurakucho> ๆถ่20L็บข่ฒ!
[08:22] <Madper> yurakucho: ไน.
[08:25] <onlylove1> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46059
[08:25] <ubrl> โช t: Solidot | ็ปฆ่ซ็็ๅฏผ่ด่พๆป็
ๅฎฟไธปๆญปไบก
[08:25] <onlylove1> ๅฏ็่ซ็็
ๆๅฎฟไธปๅฎณๆญปโฆโฆ
[08:26] <nyfair> yurakucho: yunfan: ้ฟไธๆฏไธๆฏ้ฝๆฏๅป้ผ๏ผ
[08:33] <^k^> ๆฐ Ubuntu VPS โข 51linuxไธบๅคงๅฎถๆไพๅ
่ดนLinuxไธปๆบ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473707 ็ปๅคงๅฎถๅไบซไธไธชๅ
่ดน็Linuxไธปๆบ๏ผใwww.51linux.netใ๏ผๅ
่ดนLinuxๆๅกๅจใๅ
ๅคๆกPHPๅปบ็ซ็ฉบ้ด๏ผ่ไธๅฏไปฅๅ
่ดนLinux & MySQLๅน่ฎญใไป
PHP่ฏญ่จ๏ผๆไพssh่ฟๆฅ๏ผๅนถไธๆๅคงๅฎน้็ฉบ้ด๏ผไบฒ่ช่ฏๆตๅฏไปฅ็จ๏ผ็ฝ้้ๅธธๅฟซ
[08:33] <^k^> โ> ๏ผ๏ผๆ้่ฆ็ๅฏไปฅ็ไธไธใ zz: luojt1230 โ 2015-11-05 16:30
[08:34] <onlylove_> nyfair: ๆ่งๅพไฝ ่ฟไธชไธ็จ้ฎๅซไบบไบ๏ผไธ่ฟ้ฎ้ขๆฏ๏ผ้ฟไธๆญฃๅจๆขๅฝๅ
ๅคๅ
ๅ
ฌๅธ็้ฅญ็ข
[08:35] <yunfan> nyfair: ไธๆฏ
[08:37] * onlylove_ ๆฑ่ทณๆงฝ
[08:38] <nyfair> http://www.bilibili.com/html/join.html
[08:38] <ubrl> nyfair: โช ๅ ๅ
ฅๆไปฌ - ๅๅฉๅๅฉๅผนๅน่ง้ข็ฝ - ( ใ- ใ)ใคใญ ไนพๆฏ~ - bilibili
[08:42] <Router2> exit
[08:46] <onlylove> B็ซไธ่ฆๆ๏ผ็นไบ้ฃไนไน
ไบ๏ผ็ฝ้กต่ฟๆฒกๆๅผ
[08:46] <yunfan> nyfair: ไฝ ่ฟ้ฉๅญ ๆฏๅคฉๅฐไบไธๅๅฐฑๆฅๆ่
พไบบ
[08:49] <nyfair> yunfan: ๅฐไฝ ไธบๅนณๅๅคงๅฐๅ๏ผๅฟซๅปๅฐๅบฆๆๅคงๅฑ ๆ
[08:50] <huntxu> ๆ็็
[08:50] <yunfan> nyfair: ๅฐๅบฆๆๆๆฏ่ฅฟ่พน ้พ้ๆฏๅปๅฐๅบฆๅฐผ่ฅฟไบๅฑ ๆ
[08:51] <nyfair> yunfan: ๅฐๆฅ็ฃจๅด็ฎๅญ๏ผๅๆญฃๆฏๅฐๅบฆ๏ผๅๅท้่ฆไน
[08:51] <^k^> ๆฐ Ubuntu้่ฏฏๆฅๅ โข 15.10ไฟฎๅฅฝLibreOffice็ๅดฉๆบ็
http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473708 ๅๅ็บงๅฐ15.10,็ฌฌไธๆณ็็ๆฏๆๆฒกๆไฟฎๅฅฝLibreOffice็ๅดฉๆบ็
,ๆต่ฏๅๆ็ถๅฅฝไบ. ๅถๅพๅๆฌขLibreOffice,่ตท่ๅฎ็็ฎๅฝๅทฅๅ
ทๆก็จ่ตทๆฅ็นๅซๆนไพฟ,ๅฆๅค,ๅฎๅฏไปฅ่ฎฉไฝ ่ช็ฑ้ ๅญ --ๅฅฝ็ฏ็็ๅ่ฝ,ๅถไฝ่ตทPDFๆฅๅพๅฟๅบๆ
[08:51] <^k^> โ> ,ๆๆจๆ zz: Jacky286 โ 2015-11-05 16:50
[08:52] <yunfan> nyfair: ๅฝ็ถๅพ้่ฆไบ ็ดๆฅ็ปๆไธช ่ฅฟๅๅๅบ ๅธไปค ่ตๆฟๆฒปๅฑ็ซ ไบฌ่ก่ตฐๅง
[08:53] <nyfair> yunfan: ๆฏ่๏ผ่ฎฉไฝ ๅฝไธไบ่ฅฟๅๅๅบๅธไปคไฝ ่ฟไผๅนฒๆญฃ็ปไบ๏ผ
[08:54] * yurakucho ๆไธๅๅฅ?
[08:57] <onlylove1> nyfair: ่ฅฟๅๅไบ
[09:03] <Madper> yurakucho: ไฝ ่ฏทๅฎขไธ?
[09:04] <yurakucho> Madper: ๆๅคฉไธๆฏๅ็ฝ่ๆฟไธ่ตทไน
[09:04] <Madper> yurakucho: ๆไนๆปtm้ๅจไบๅ
[09:04] <yurakucho> Madper: ๆๅช็ฅ้ไปๆไนๆปtm้ๅจไบๅ
[09:04] <Madper> yurakucho: ้ฃๅๅ
[09:04] <yurakucho> ๆ้ฎ้ฎไปๆๅคฉๆฅไธ
[09:04] <Madper> yurakucho: ๆง.
[09:05] <yurakucho> http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/445429.htm
[09:05] <ubrl> โช t: Canonical่่ๅจUbuntu 16.04ไธญ็งป้คUbuntu่ฝฏไปถไธญๅฟ_Ubuntu_cnBeta.COM
[09:10] <yurakucho> MangHuo: ไฝ ๆๅคฉไนๆฅๅ
[09:10] <MangHuo> yurakucho: ๅปๅช้ๅ
[09:11] <yurakucho> MangHuo: ๆๆ, ๅ
ฌๅธ้่ฟ ๅไธ้กฟ
[09:11] <yurakucho> MangHuo: ๅๅฅไธ็ฅ้
[09:11] <MangHuo> yurakucho: ๅผๅ
[09:11] <yurakucho> MangHuo: ๅธฎไฝ ็บฆ็ฝ่ๆฟ้ข็งฏ, ็ซๆฉไธ่ตฆ
[09:11] <yurakucho> ้ขๅบ
[09:11] <MangHuo> yurakucho: ่ต็ท
[09:19] <lainme> gnome software ่ฝ็จไบ๏ผ
[09:27] <^k^> ๆฐ GTK+ๅQT โข Ubuntu 12.04็จๆท่ชๅจ็ป้ๆก้ขๅบ้๏ผๆฅ๏ผๆฅ๏ผๆฅ๏ผๆฑๅคง็ฅๆๅฏผ๏ผ๏ผ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473710 Ubuntu 12.04็จๆท่ชๅจ็ป้ๆก้ขๅบ้๏ผ ๆๅจ/etc/lightdm/lightdm.config ไฟฎๆน็ๅ
ๅฎนๅฆไธ๏ผ Code: [SeatDefaults] greeter-session=unity-greeter user-session=Gilbarco autologin-user=cj autologin-user-t
[09:27] <^k^> โ> imeout=delay greeter-show-manual-login=true cjๆฏ่ชๅจ็ป้็จๆทๅ๏ผsessionไธบGilbarco ๅจ/usr/shared/xsessions/ โฆ
[09:29] <onlylove> B็ซๅจ้ญ้ฝ๏ผ่่ไธโฆโฆ
[09:30] <nyfair> ๅปb็ซๆๅฏไปฅ็ต็บฟ๏ผๅฎ
ๅๆ่ฟๆฏๆบ็็
[09:32] <yunfan> nyfair: ไผ็ ๆ็ไธชไบบ็ฉ่ดจไบซๅๆ ๅๅพไฝ ๆ ่ไบๅฐฑ่ฆๅนฒๅคงไบไบ
[09:32] <yunfan> nyfair: ็ฐๅจๆ็้ฝฟไธๅฅฝ ๅไปไน้ฝไธๆฅๅฒไบ ่บซไฝไธๅฅฝ ไธไธช็พๅฅณ้ฝๆชๅฟ
ๆๅพๅฎ ไธ็จๆ
ๅฟ่ฟๅ
[09:32] <yunfan> ๆไนไธๅๆฌขๅ้
ๆฝ็
[09:32] <nyfair> ๅฟซๅปๆๅฐๅบฆ้ฒๅนณไบ
[09:33] <nyfair> ่ฏ่ฏด๏ผlinuxไธ็ๆไปถ็ฎก็ๅจ่ฝไธ่ฝๅๅฐ่ฟ็งๆๆ
[09:33] <nyfair> https://github.com/nyfair/sentire-thumb
[09:33] <ubrl> โช f: nyfair/sentire-thumb ยท GitHub
[09:33] <nyfair> ๆ็ไบไธnautilius็ๅณ้ฎ่ๅๆฅๅฃ๏ผ่ฒไผผๅช่ฝๆ็นๆๅญๅฝไปค
[09:34] <nyfair> thunar็ๆด็ฎๅไบ
[09:34] <yunfan> ๅฏนgui็ๆฒกๅ
ด่ถฃ
[09:39] <onlylove> ้ข่งๅพ็ไนโฆโฆ่ฟไธช็ไธ็ฅ้
[09:39] <onlylove> ไธ่ฟๅฏไปฅ่ฐ็จ็ฌฌไธๆน๏ผ็ถๅๆ็ปๆไผ ๅๅป๏ผ
[09:39] <onlylove> ไธ็ฅ้่ฟๆ ท็่ฏ๏ผgif่ฟ็งไผๅจ็่กไธ
[09:39] <yunfan> onlylove: ่ฟๆฒกไธ็ญ
[09:39] <onlylove> yunfan: ๅ ็นๅฐฑ่ฎฉๆไธ็ญ
[09:40] <onlylove> yunfan: ๆ6็นๅๅฅฝไน
[09:41] <onlylove> yunfan: ไธ่ฟไธไธชๆๆฃไบๆ300ๅ๏ผไธ็ฝ็ๅพ็ฐๅจ
[09:41] <onlylove> yunfan: ไปฅๅ่ฟๅฐๆฏไธไธชๆๅคๅคไบ๏ผไนๆฒก่งๆฃ้ฃไนๅค
[09:42] <onlylove> yunfan: ๆป็ปไธๅฅ่ฏ๏ผ้กน็ฎ็ป็่งๅพๆๅคไฝไบ๏ผ่ชๅทฑ่ฝๆๅฎไธๅ๏ผๆๅชๆณๅๆงฝ๏ผไธไธช่ฟsftpๆๅกๅจ้ฝๆไธๅฎ็ไบบ๏ผ่ฟๆณsupportๆดไธชๅข้
[09:43] <nyfair> onlylove: ไธ่ฆ้ข่ง๏ผ้ฃๆ ทๆๅผๆไปถๅคนๅperformanceๅพไฝ๏ผๆๅช่ฆ้ผ ๆ ็นไธไธ่ฝ้ข่งๅฐฑๅฅฝ
[09:44] <onlylove1> nyfair: ้ฃไธชไธ่ฅฟ๏ผๆๅจwin2kๅxpๆถไปฃ่ง่ฟ๏ผ2k่ฟๅฏไปฅ็ปๆไปถๅคน่ฎพ็ฝฎ่ๆฏ
[09:44] <onlylove1> nyfair: ไฝ ๅฏไปฅ่่่ฏปๅๅพ็็ผๅญ๏ผๅฆๆๆ้ฃไนไธชไธ่ฅฟ็่ฏ๏ผ
[09:45] <nyfair> onlylove: ้ฃไธชไธ่ฅฟๅคชๅฐ๏ผ64*64็
[09:45] <onlylove1> ้ฃๆฒกๅๆณไบโฆโฆ
[09:45] <nyfair> onlylove: ๆๆณ่ชๅทฑๆดไธๅฅๅคๅชไฝ่งฃๅณๆนๆก
[09:45] <onlylove1> ่ต็พ็็โฆโฆ
[09:45] <FranX> ๆ็ฐๅจ็้ฝฟๅพๅฅฝ
[09:45] <FranX> ๅๅๅ้ฆ
[09:46] <FranX> ๆฏๅคฉๆ็ๆไธ้พๅ
[09:46] <nyfair> onlylove1: ่ฟๅ่ฝๆฏๆๅ็้ฃไธชdx11็็ๅพ่ฝฏไปถ็ๆไปถๅ
[09:47] <nyfair> onlylove1: ไฝ ่ฏดๆ่ฏฅ็จdx11่ฟๆฏ่ฏฅ็ญvulcanoๅบๆฅไนๅ็linuxไธ่ฝไธ่ฝ็ฉ๏ผ
[09:47] <nyfair> dx12
[09:48] <nyfair> dx11ๆฒกๆๆ้่ฆ็ๅ่ฝ
[09:48] <onlylove___> nyfair: ๅๆญฃๆ่ฎฐๅพacdseeๆ่ฟไธชๅ่ฝ็ๆ ทๅญ๏ผๆไนๅๅฐไผไผด็ฉ็ต่็ๆถๅๆ่ง่ฟ๏ผๆไปฅๆๅฐ่ฑก
[09:49] <onlylove___> ๅlagไบ๏ผ่ฟๅๅคๆ๏ผ่ฝไธ่ฝ็ฉ๏ผ
[09:55] <nyfair> onlylove__: ๆ็ฅ้ๆๅ
[10:07] <onlylove> nyfair: ็็๏ผไธบๅฅๆ็็จๅบ่ๆบ้้ขไธ่ฝๆญๆพ่ง้ข๏ผ็ฉ็ๆบๆญฃๅธธ
[10:16] <hceasy> ้ฎไธช้ฎ้ข.
[10:16] <hceasy> wordpress ้ฃไบๅนฟๅๆบๅจไบบ ๆฏๆ นๆฎๆ็ดขๅผๆ ๆถๅฝ็ Powered by WordPress ๅ
ณ้ฎๅญๆพ่ฟๆฅ็ไน.
[10:21] <onlylove1> ไธ็ฅ้๏ผๅคงๆฆๆๅฏ่ฝๅง
[10:23] <ulot0> ็ฅๅฅๅไพ 2015่ฟ้จ็ตๅฝฑไธ้๏ผๅฏไปฅ็็
[10:24] <root____> ๆๆๆๅ๏ผ
[10:25] <root____> qxit
[10:27] <hceasy> ๆไธชnofollow ๅฑๆง
[10:30] <yunfan> ๆชๅพ้ฃๅทฅๅ
ทๅซไปไนๆฅ็ ๅฟ่ฎฐไบ
[10:48] <Freebuilder> ๅผๅผ
[10:48] <^k^> ๆฐ Ubuntu 10.04 LTS โข ๅจ่ฏข๏ผ10.04ๆไนๅ็บงๅฐ14.04ๆๆด้ซ็ๆฌ๏ผ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473715 ๅไฝๅคงไพ ๏ผ็ฎๅ Ubuntu ๅทฒ็ปไธๅๆฏๆ 10.04็ๆดๆฐไบใๆ็ฐๅจๆณๆ่ชๅทฑ็จ็ 10.04็ณป็ปๅ็บงๅฐ 14.04ๆๆด้ซ็็ๆฌ๏ผ่ฏท้ฎ๏ผๆไปไนๅฅฝๅๆณๅ็บงๅ๏ผ ่ฐข่ฐข๏ผ zz: feixiang200305 โ 2015-11-05 18:13
[10:59] * hceasy ๅ่
[11:00] <hceasy> ctcp hceasy sfasdfasdf
[11:01] * hceasy ๅ่
[11:26] <ulot0> shutter
[11:27] <ulot0> yunfan, shutter
[12:20] <^k^> ๆฐ ๅๅญฆ่
ๅญๅฐ - 15.10 โข LINUXๆฏๅฆไฝ่ฏๅซๆไปถ็ฑปๅ็๏ผ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473716 ๆจๅคฉ๏ผๅจไธ่ฝฝไธไธช่ง้ขๆไปถไนๅ๏ผๆไปถๅ่ชๅทฒๅไบ๏ผๅๆไธไบๅญๆฏๅๆฐๅญ๏ผๆฒกๆ็ฑปไผผไบWINDOWSไธ็ๆฉๅฑๅ๏ผไฝๅพๆ ่ฟๆฏๆพ็คบ็ๆฏ่ง้ขๆไปถ๏ผไน่ฝๆญฃๅธธๆๅผ๏ผๅฆๆญค๏ผๅผๅๆ่ๅฆไธ๏ผ ้ฎ้ขไธ๏ผ
[12:20] <^k^> โ> ๅจไฝฟ็จWINDOWS็ๆถๅ๏ผๆ่ฏๅซๆไปถ็ฑปๅๆฏๆ นๆฎๆฉๅฑๅๅปๅคๆญ๏ผ้ฃไน๏ผๆๅจLINUXไธ๏ผๆๅบ่ฏฅๆ น โฆ
[13:01] <^k^> ๆฐ Debianๅ่ก็ โข ๆฒกๅฃฐ้ณ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473717 Code: >0< ~# lspci | grep Audio 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) >0< ~# lscpu | grep 'Model name
[13:01] <^k^> โ> ' Model name:ย ย ย ย ย ย Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590 CPU @ 3.30GHz >0< ~# 1.png 2.png 3.png zz: ๅปบๅฎข โ 2015-1 โฆ
[14:46] <^k^> kandu: ๆ่ฝไบบ
[14:49] <^k^> ๆฐ ๅๅญฆ่
ๅญๅฐ - 15.10 โข vpnc้ฎ้ขๆฑๆ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473719 iosๅๅฎๅ้ๆฒกๆ็พค็ปๅๅช่ฆ็พค็ปๅฏ้ฅๅฐฑๅฏไปฅไบ๏ผๅฏๆฏvpnc่ฆ่ฎพ็ฝฎ็พค็ปๅ๏ผๆไน่ฎฉvpncๅช็จๅฏ้ฅๅฐฑๅฏไปฅ่ฟ zz: qquccs โ 2015-11-05 22:47
[23:13] * ubrl 2.6.32-042stab102.9 #1 SMP Fri Dec 19 20:34:40 MSK 2014 Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS ruby 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786) [i686-linux]
[23:23] <RivDo> ๆไบบไน.
[23:23] <ubrl> RivDo:็น็น็น. 07:20
[23:23] <RivDo> = =ๆๅๅฟไบ่ง็ฉไบ.
[23:24] <RivDo> ๆ็ubuntuไธ่ฝๅผๅฏผๅฐๅพๅฝข็้ขไบ
[23:56] <^k^> ๆฐ ๅ ็น็ฝ็ธๅ
ณ่ฝฏไปถ โข ๅฆไฝ็ปpip่ฎพ็ฝฎไปฃ็ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473720 pipๆฏ็จๆฅๅฎ่ฃ
pythonๆๅ
ณ็ไธไบๅ
็ๅฎ่ฃ
ๅทฅๅ
ท๏ผไฝ็ฑไบๆ็็ต่ไธ่ฝไธ็ฝ๏ผๆณ็จsocks5ไปฃ็่ฟ่กๅฎ่ฃ
ใ่ฏท้ฎๅฆไฝ่ฎพ็ฝฎไปฃ็ๆ่ฝ้่ฟsocks5ไปฃ็ๆๅกๅจ่ฟ่กpipๅฎ่ฃ
ๆณ่ฆ็pythonๅ
๏ผๅฆnumpy, scipy็ญ๏ผ่ฐข่ฐข๏ผ๏ผ zz:
[23:56] <^k^> โ> xhsh โ 2015-11-06 7:11
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[07:35] <mardy> DanChapman: hi! I can't find it, maybe there wasn't one. If you file one to ubuntu-ux, please subscribe me or ping me here so that I follow it
[09:10] <rpadovani> popey is offline? Heck!
[09:19] <mcphail> rpadovani: isn't that the first portent of the apocalypse?
[09:19] <rpadovani> it is, it is.
[09:20] <mcphail> rpadovani: it would explain why I saw a crow flying backwards...
[09:20] <rpadovani> aahhahaha
[10:51] <rpadovani> popey, o/ we were worried, you weren't online O.o
[10:52] <popey> had internet issues at home
[10:52] <popey> engineer had unplugged my internet connection!
[10:52] <rpadovani> wow, that's sad
[10:53] <rpadovani> popey, when this[0] branch will land, could you please release an update of the calculator? We have a *lot* of bugfixes
[10:53] <rpadovani> [0]: https://code.launchpad.net/~gang65/ubuntu-calculator-app/ubuntu-calculator-app-bracket-push-fix
[10:53] <rpadovani> (there is a trivial conflict gang66 has to fix)
[10:53] <popey> Yeah, I had a chat with bartosz about it earlier in the week
[11:10] <DanChapman> mardy, done :-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1513435
[11:20] <rpadovani> there is any ppa for qt 5.4 for precise?
[11:39] <popey> rpadovani, Mirv is the keeper of qt ppas
[11:57] <Mirv> rpadovani: double-checking precise == 12.04? there's just 5.0.2 for precise. 5.4 is only available for vivid/wily/xenial in a traditional sense and trusty too if needed via the new SDK builds
[11:57] <Mirv> rpadovani: you can consider simply getting the upstream Qt 5.4 installer for precise (not sure if they support it still, but it might be so)
[11:57] <Mirv> depending on what's needed
[11:58] <rpadovani> Mirv, argh, right, trusty - I need it to have dell drivers on xps 13
[11:58] <rpadovani> Mirv, I just want to be able to develop also on my notebook :-)
[12:00] <Mirv> rpadovani: I was wondering :) my xps 13 is also running trusty, although not really dell drivers anymore but 14.04.3. you can use the new ubuntu-sdk-ide from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools-development/ which will replace the normal SDK - it includes the whole Qt and installs alongside system Qt
[12:00] <Mirv> it will soon be made the recommended choice for all
[12:00] <rpadovani> Mirv, I already installed it, I'm able to compile apps, but then it says module "QtQuick" version 2.3 is not installed
[12:00] <rpadovani> at runtime
[12:00] <Mirv> bzoltan_: zbenjamin: ^
[12:01] <bzoltan_> Mirv: yes, sir!
[12:01] <Mirv> bzoltan_: zbenjamin: is the new SDK going to solve the running on the desktop problem, or is it left for the developer's exercise?
[12:01] <Mirv> rpadovani: I think you might want to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /opt/blah/qt:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH something
[12:02] <bzoltan_> Mirv: the new SDK IDE does solve it
[12:02] <Mirv> rpadovani: how do you run it, from QtC's menu?
[12:02] <Mirv> bzoltan_: here we have a volunteering beta user :)
[12:02] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: welcome aboard ... here is the instruction
[12:03] <rpadovani> :-)
[12:03] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/tools-development && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:03] <rpadovani> I'll love to provide as many feedbacks as possible
[12:03] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, done
[12:04] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: 14.04, 15.05 and 15.10
[12:04] <rpadovani> 14.04 here
[12:04] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: the next is ... "PROFIT"
[12:05] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, well, when I try to run something it says 'module "QtQuick" version 2.3 is not installed '
[12:05] <rpadovani> (from the sdk itself)
[12:05] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-dev
[12:06] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, already done too - I found the bug reported by kalinkiana
[12:10] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: let me check one thing
[12:10] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: do you see the Desktop Kit in the Options dialog?
[12:11] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, no, there isn't a desktop click build target, should I create it?
[12:13] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: not there... in the Run&Build ... Kits
[12:15] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, yap, there is
[12:15] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: and where the Desktop Kit points?
[12:15] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: What Qt is it using?
[12:18] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, QT 5.2.1 in PATH (System) - there is only QT 5.4.1 (ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf) that mentions 5.4
[12:18] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: right ... so the desktop kit registration is not good
[12:18] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: let's pull zbenjamin in... I have the same issue
[12:19] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: hehh.. no.. I do have the Ubuntu SDK Desktop Kit
[12:19] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-dev
[12:20] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: if you have that, then you need to add the "Ubuntu SDK Desktop Kit" to your project and run with that
[12:20] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: if you have a qmlproject you need to select the correct runconfiguration
[12:20] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: the rc should be named like your project
[12:21] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: ^ another reason why qmlproject is bad. It seems to not care about the used Qt when executing qmlscene
[12:21] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2015-11-05_14_20_27-N8lIHCbp.1446726063.png
[12:21] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: crap.. that is a reason to be sacked
[12:22] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: it autocreates a RC which sadly is the default selected one over ours
[12:25] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, bzoltan_ https://img.rpadovani.com/public/qtwrong.png
[12:26] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: what ubuntu version you are on?
[12:26] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, 14.04
[12:26] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, bzoltan_ sorry, I have only 40minutes of lunch break, so I need to go right now, I'll ping you in ~1 hour? Thanks for your availability meanwhile
[12:27] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: feel free to ping me anytime
[13:32] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, zbenjamin here I'm, do you have some time to help me have it working?
[13:43] <zzarr> hello! I used "Activity Tracker (BETA)" to store a route, do anyone know how to access the coordinates that are stored?
[14:09] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: sure
[14:10] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: so since when do you have the ubuntu-sdk-ide installed? Because that long lists of qt versions is a bug we fixed a few days ago
[14:10] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, I installed during the UbuCon, soo, a couple of weekends ago?
[14:10] <rpadovani> something like this
[14:11] <rpadovani> like 23 or 24 of Oct
[14:11] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: ok make sure you have the most recent version
[14:11] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:12] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, all updated
[14:12] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, I've also the ppa ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa
[14:13] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: ok then, close qtc and delete (or move) ~/.config/QtProject/qtcreator/qtversion.xml
[14:13] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: that will clean up the long list of qt versions
[14:13] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: maybe it will break some kits too but those can be fixed by assigning the correct qt version later on again
[14:15] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, done
[14:15] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: next step: make sure ubuntu-sdk-dev is installed: apt-get install ubuntu-sdk-dev
[14:15] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, yap
[14:16] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: does /usr/ubuntu-sdk-dev/bin/qmake exist?`
[14:16] <rpadovani> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.0M Nov 3 23:40 qmake
[14:16] <rpadovani> seems so
[14:17] <zbenjamin> can you execute it? /usr/ubuntu-sdk-dev/bin/qmake -query
[14:17] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, yes, and now it says QT_VERSION:5.4.1
[14:17] <rpadovani> (well, it says a lot of things)
[14:18] <zbenjamin> cool, run "ubuntu-sdk-ide" now and see if you got the new desktop kit
[14:20] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13112563/
[14:21] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: where do you get that?
[14:21] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: running your project?
[14:21] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, as soon as I open ubuntu-sdk-ide in the console
[14:22] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: ok ignore that one for now
[14:22] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: thats a problem of either the friends plugin or the qmlplugindump
[14:23] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, ok, I changed the kit in the project tabs and now seems to work (I miss Bacon2d) - I try with another app, hang on a sec
[14:25] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, it works \o/
[14:25] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, thanks *so* much
[14:25] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: yaaay :)
[14:26] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, the only thing is that by default it uses 'Desktop' kit instead of 'Ubuntu Sdk Desktop', but it's not a so big problem
[14:26] <rpadovani> oh well
[14:26] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: when you create your project you need to select what kits you want
[14:26] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: just do not select the normal "Desktop" kit :)
[14:26] <rpadovani> there is a 'Make default' button in the kits tab :D
[14:27] <zbenjamin> right :D
[14:27] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, next question: is it possible to build command line? :D
[14:28] <rpadovani> what the heck I wrote?
[14:29] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: its possible to build commandline :D
[14:29] <rpadovani> I mean, is it possible to build apps using hte command line with the new desktop kit?
[14:29] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: sure
[14:29] <zbenjamin> cd <path_to_src> && mkdir build && cd build && /usr/ubuntu-sdk-dev/bin/qmake -r ../ && make
[14:29] <jgdx> any suggestions on how I could create a transient setting that is unset on reboot from qml?
[14:30] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, same thing for cmake? Of course s/qmake/cmake?
[14:30] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: depending on the tools you use you probably need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH though
[14:30] <rpadovani> okay
[14:30] <rpadovani> thanks *so* much :)
[14:30] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: with cmake you need to tell cmake where to find the cmake files. So it picks up the correct qt
[14:31] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: i think those files are in /usr/ubuntu-sdk-dev/lib/cmake
[14:38] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: but i cannot remember the env var or cmake arg to pass that on
[14:41] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, if I try to use the sdk to compile webbrowser (cmake) I have this error? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13112684/ there is a better solution than give 777 to .ccache?
[14:49] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: weird , why would anything in your home folder not belong to you?
[14:50] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, well, no idea. To be honest I have no idea why it is .ccache and not .cache
[14:52] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: well ccache is something different: https://ccache.samba.org/
[14:53] <rpadovani> oh, I see
[14:57] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, anyway, I fixed permissions there, now it says I miss <QtCore/QStorageInfo> - how can I install packages in the kit?
[15:24] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: I am here too
[15:25] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: I see I have arrived late :)
[15:25] <bzoltan_> zbenjamin: you see, how easy to make people happy? :D
[15:26] <zbenjamin> bzoltan_: ;)
[15:27] <hasselmm> hi, how would i install qtdeclarative5-private-dev to chroot:click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf?
[15:27] <hasselmm> a plain (and obviously stupid) "sudo schroot -c chroot:click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf -- dpkg-query -l qtdeclarative5-private-dev" doesn't seem persistent
[15:30] <zbenjamin> hasselmm: click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 maint apt-get install qtdeclarative5-private-dev:armhf
[15:31] <hasselmm> zbenjamin: ah, cool! thanks alot!
[15:37] <hasselmm> hmm... doesn't seem like qt 5.5 is available yet?
[15:39] <dobey> not on the phone, no. it's 5.4
[15:41] <hasselmm> hmm.... hmmm..... too bad. no quick porting then :-/
[16:00] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, zbenjamin yap, thanks for help - the only thing I miss that dependency - QtCore/Storage
[16:01] <bzoltan_> rpadovani: what package is that?
[16:02] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: be careful, you can not mix packages that are compiled with the system Qt and projects using the ubuntu sdk desktop kit
[16:03] <rpadovani> bzoltan_, should be in qtbase5-dev - zbenjamin, I'm trying to compile webbrowser
[16:03] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: are you trying to compile against the new Kit?
[16:05] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, yap, from inside the sdk
[16:05] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: you can not build against default qt packages then. Everything that is not part of ubuntu-sdk-dev you need to compile yourself (when itd depends on Qt)
[16:07] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, well, it should be part of qt 5.4 #include <QtCore/QStorageInfo>
[16:08] <rpadovani> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qstorageinfo.html
[16:08] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: yeah its there
[16:10] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, well, then I don't understand why it says it's missing
[16:10] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: webbrowser is using cmake?
[16:10] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, yes, it is
[16:10] <zbenjamin> hmm maybe thats the problem and there is something wrong with the cmake installation
[16:10] <zbenjamin> the cmake files of qt i mean
[16:11] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, something I can do to help you debug it?
[16:11] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: you sure its not something inside the cmake project files that checks for that file in the wrong place?
[16:12] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, on xenial I'm able to build it without any issue, so I don't think is related to the project
[16:13] <zbenjamin> rpadovani: but on xenial you build against the default system qt right, which is in a standard location
[16:13] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, right
[16:16] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, but it's strange i have problems only with that package - I include others libs before it and I have no problems
[16:17] <rpadovani> like <QtCore/QStandardPaths>
[16:19] <rpadovani> zbenjamin, and indeed if I do locate QStorageInfo I have nothing
[16:19] <rpadovani> and in /usr/ubuntu-sdk-info/lib there is nothing about storage
[16:29] <mzanetti-> popey, are we?
[16:30] <popey> mzanetti-, tricky with uos, can we tomorrow, maybe?
[16:30] <mzanetti-> popey, it's lunch break now :D
[16:31] <mzanetti-> popey, anyhow, no worries... tomorrow is fine I guess
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| 2015-11-05T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-devel
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[04:23] <syntroPi> im trying to compile (any maybe package someday) a software which i guess was written on arch. it comes with a cmake script looking for "gstreamermm-1.0" but ubuntu only has "libgstreamer-1.0-dev" which it doesnt see. Any ideas how to get cmake use that?
[06:40] <Unit193> LocutusOfBorg1: I see you're upstream on pbuilder (thanks!) and are trying to merge it into Xenial. Are you aware it doesn't work in wily without a slight modification to fix Debian 786690?
[07:34] <mgedmin> ohi
[07:34] <mgedmin> 'pull-lp-source -d python3-defaults xenial' reliably fails for me with a socket.error (connection reset by peer)
[07:35] <mgedmin> after successfully downloading both the .dsc and the .tar.gz
[08:04] <Mirv> a core-dev would be needed for running https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-026-2-publish/build , solely because there's a change in apparmor-easyprof-ubunt by jdstrand (https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-026-1-build/129/artifact/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu_packaging_changes.diff) other packages are universe packages.
[08:04] <Mirv> it's going to the overlay PPA
[08:29] <tsdgeos> xnox: do you have a link for those patches you speak of that remove gtk2 dependency on Qt5?
[08:53] <LocutusOfBorg1> Unit193, well, I didn't try wily, but I'm trying to fix xenial
[09:40] <__marco> Good morning. How can I find more informations about trusty-changes ml?
[09:41] <__marco> For example, what are -proposed, -updates and -security changes?
[09:43] <__marco> I see that python-tz 2012c-1ubuntu0.1 is -proposed (Accepted) and presents in the trusty-updates
[09:44] <__marco> while qemu 2.0.0+dfsg-2ubuntu1.20 is also -proposed and Accepted but not in the repositories
[09:44] <cjwatson> most uploads go to -proposed first and are then copied elsewhere after QA
[10:31] <xnox> tsdgeos: yes, i got an email about it.
[10:45] <xnox> tsdgeos: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/139867/
[10:46] <tsdgeos> i see
[10:46] <tsdgeos> tx
[10:46] <xnox> tsdgeos: np
[11:15] <brendand> i just upgraded a raspberry pi 2 running trusty to xenial and fontconfig won't install (which seems to be stopping upstart from installing fully, as i am missing some of the binaries it provides)
[11:16] <brendand> particularly i no longer have any reboot/shutdown command
[11:26] <decci> Hello
[11:26] <decci> I am trying to build .DEB package
[11:27] <decci> I am able to create .DEB package but while I try to install it it puts everything under /tmp folder
[11:27] <decci> and not under specific /etc, /usr or /opt
[11:27] <decci> How to troubleshoot it
[11:28] <decci> My buildroot says debian/csde/tmp/DEBIAN/..
[11:28] <decci> under rules file
[14:20] <gQuigs> is this the right place to change ubuntu restricted extras and friends - https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-restricted-extras of is there a seeds like equivalent for that too?
[14:20] * gQuigs realized that gstreamer0.1 can still be brought in by that package
[14:30] <pitti> Good morning
[14:45] <diwic> seb128, hi!
[14:46] <seb128> diwic, hey
[14:47] <diwic> seb128, hi, how are things? Are you still the one to talk to about unity-control-center?
[14:47] <seb128> diwic, things are going well, thanks! hope it's the same for you :-)
[14:47] <seb128> yes
[14:47] <seb128> or at least I'm one of those looking after it
[14:48] <diwic> seb128, so I wanted to fix up the subwoofer slider and just added a comment about the proposed fix in bug 1505705
[14:48] <diwic> seb128, I just feel that would be good to get your ack on how things should work before I go coding them
[14:50] <diwic> seb128, so if you had some time to reply to that (not urgent) it would be great
[14:50] <seb128> diwic, I see there are several comments forth and back upstream so I need to have a proper read, keeping that for later
[14:51] <diwic> seb128, sure, np
[14:51] <seb128> diwic, but if upstream agrees on a solution that's +1 from me as well
[14:51] <diwic> seb128, well, I don't think hadess's suggestion is as good as the one I'm proposing
[14:55] <seb128> diwic, I trust you on the topic and seems you got a +1 for the idea on the pulse list, so pre+1 from me, I'm still going to read that bug in details later and get back to you but you can probably start hacking on it
[14:56] <diwic> seb128, ok, thanks!
[15:00] <seb128> mdeslaur, hey
[15:00] <mdeslaur> seb128: hey
[15:00] <seb128> mdeslaur, bug #1513293 seems to be a regression in the recent unzip trusty security update, unsure how to flag those
[15:01] <mdeslaur> seb128: ok, thanks, I'll take a look
[15:01] <seb128> mdeslaur, thanks
[15:02] <seb128> mdeslaur, just for the record, is there an official way to flag those (out of IRC pings)? for next time...
[15:02] <mdeslaur> seb128: not that I'm aware...you can just mention it in #ubuntu-hardened if you don't want to ping anyone specific
[15:02] <seb128> k
[15:02] <seb128> thanks
[15:39] <kirkland> cyphermox: ooooh, you managed to identify the breakage?
[16:11] <cyphermox> kirkland: to some degree.
[16:39] <kirkland> cyphermox: have you verified reverting that fixes the problem?
[16:39] <cyphermox> kirkland: sorry, no. I'm not spending extra time on the issue
[16:42] <kirkland> cyphermox: okay, no worries, I'll captuer that URL in the bug in LP
[16:43] <Laney> doko: any chance you can poke binutils upstream about the arm64 bug?
[16:43] <cyphermox> ok. there may be side-effects we haven't anticipated to doing that revert, so I'll let the desktop team weight in
[16:43] <Laney> it's annoying to have so much stuff blocked
[16:45] <irctc747> Hi
[17:04] <doko_> Laney, <doko> seb128, no, I'm on it. no work around yet
[17:04] <Laney> doko_: not necessarily a workaround, but maybe you could poke upstream
[17:06] <doko_> Laney, I'm on it, no worry
[17:16] <pitti> mdeslaur: mind if I steal your rpcbind merge?
[17:17] <pitti> mdeslaur: the next upload to Debian should make the package syncable; I'd like to double-check, test the socket activation, and sync
[17:17] <mdeslaur> pitti: not at all, go ahead
[21:16] <chiluk> mterry: are you around?
[21:16] <mterry> chiluk, yup
[21:16] <chiluk> mterry trusty debdiff uploaded https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/1432871
[21:16] <mterry> chiluk, oh nice. Might not get to it today, but will try tomorrow for sure
[21:16] <chiluk> It was pretty much a pain in the ass to find/document provenance, but I think it resulted in a better patch
[21:17] <chiluk> sure.
[21:17] <chiluk> mterry I might get someone else to upload it then.
[21:17] <mterry> heh k
[22:49] <TJ-> anyone familiar with resolvconf, and how it /etc/resolvconf/update.d/ scripts swap the active nameserver? Looks like I've found a bug when multiple dnsmasq instances are in use which knocks out name resolution
[22:52] <sarnold> TJ-: your description reminds me a little bit of a bug I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1163147
[22:53] <sarnold> TJ-: jdthood was insanely helpful, but I had trouble articulating what exactly I wanted to achieve so it was hard for him to figure out what to do..
[22:53] <TJ-> sarnold: I wish I had DNS to look at that!
[22:53] <sarnold> TJ-: ohhhhhh man
[22:53] <sarnold> TJ-: 91.189.89.224
[22:53] <TJ-> BUT... I think my issue will be different. There's 3 'primary' dnsmasq instances usually: lxc, libvirt, and Network Manager - all OK
[22:54] <sarnold> there's nothing there that is "run this to fix things", but he goes into great details about how the whole thing works
[22:54] <TJ-> I've just configured the system-wide dnsmasq to ONLY do DHCP/BOOTP (no DNS) on a single interface
[22:56] <TJ-> But... despite that, when I do "systemctl start dnsmasq" the resolvconf / nss-lookup.target are re-writing /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf to point to 127.0.0.1 ... which isn't listening of course! I've enabled shell 'set -x' debugging on the /etc/resolvconf/update.d/* scripts, which dumps to syslog, but cannot find out where this "127.0.0.1" is coming from.
[22:56] <TJ-> That knocks out NMs "127.0.1.1"
[22:57] <TJ-> the "127.0.0.1" is coming from "/run/resolvconf/interface/lo.dnsmasq" - I delete that file, but something recreates it!
[22:59] <sarnold> pitti: ^^^ does any of this sound familiar?
[23:01] <pitti> sarnold: I'm afraid not; I have a vague idea what resolvconf does, but lo.dnsmasq sounds just wrong
[23:02] <sarnold> pitti: dang, thanks
[23:04] <TJ-> this is the syslog/shell debug capture http://paste.ubuntu.com/13117195/
[23:05] <TJ-> line 74-79 is the part that brings it in from lo.dnsmasq, but I've not been able to find out how that is getting recreated
[23:11] <sarnold> TJ-: fatrace may help, it's sort of like a global strace for file opens...
[23:15] <TJ-> Ha! "start_resolvconf()" in /etc/init.d/dnsmasq !
[23:15] <TJ-> # If interface "lo" is explicitly disabled in /etc/default/dnsmasq
[23:15] <TJ-> # Then dnsmasq won't be providing local DNS, so don't add it to
[23:15] <TJ-> # the resolvconf server set.y
[23:17] <TJ-> Grrr, "IGNORE_RESOLVCONF=yes" doesn't help
[23:18] <TJ-> I wonder what this means "If interface "lo" is explicitly disabled in /etc/default/dnsmasq"
[23:22] <TJ-> OK, got it :) /etc/default/dnsmasq requires "DNSMASQ_EXCEPT=lo"
[23:24] <TJ-> Now to figure out why dnsmasq isn't replying to the BOOTP request :s
[23:35] <TJ-> doh! port needs a VLAN tag!
[23:36] <sarnold> sweet
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-ops
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[02:15] <jpds> k1l: How can you have that giant whitespace taking up your screen's real estate?
[02:51] <phunyguy> ^
[11:30] <daftykins> hi folks, just a heads up that "pikapi" is one of those 'pretend volunteer' trolls that wastes peoples time with inappropriate 'advice' and direct googlings.
[11:31] <daftykins> nothing actionable i'm sure for now, but worth making a note of
[11:37] <Unit193> User is in a live system too (Don't think anyone is around right now, either.)
[11:38] <daftykins> yeah usually pretty dead :)
[11:45] <daftykins> there we go, first of many terrible pieces of advice
[11:45] <daftykins> ok i'm gonna part for now
[16:18] <not_phunyguy> someone mind keeping an eye on pikapi in #u-ot? I cannot pay enough attention right now.
[16:19] <not_phunyguy> nevermind. They /quit
[18:51] * phunyguy grumbles
[18:52] <phunyguy> anyone else care to step in?
[19:01] <FartZombie> !ops please unban me
[19:01] <FartZombie> I must carry out the apocalypse
[19:02] <phunyguy> hello FartZombie, which channel?
[19:11] <teward> Is someone watching #ubuntu and L0LFunny? I think they're reaching the line of "disruptive"
[19:11] <Pici> we're always watching
[19:11] <teward> cool, wanted to check is all :)
[19:11] <teward> thanks
[23:55] <bazhang> [sruli] ([email protected])
[23:55] <bazhang> is sruli the new pikapi
[23:56] <Unit193> Using Pidgin, not a live ISO.
[23:56] <bazhang> seemingly giving advice, but mostly offtopic running commentary
[23:57] <k1l_> india vs england. but both are very chattery
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-arm
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[09:34] <ali1234> ogra_: so, u-boot can dump a fdt in memory. this is the diff between the dtb put in memory by broadcom, vs loading the same dtb with u-boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13111353/
[10:15] <ogra_> ali1234, well, pretty much the cmdline .... overlays would show up there too i guess
[10:15] <ali1234> i didn't load any overlays but yeah they would
[10:15] <ali1234> but the serial number/mac stuff is in there too
[10:16] <ali1234> i reckon u-boot is capable of even loading overlays
[10:16] <ali1234> and even parameters
[10:17] <ali1234> it would need a really big script though
[10:41] <ogra_> i dont mind big scripts .... :)
[10:42] <ogra_> the question is, can uboot pverwrite 0x100 after you already loaded the blob fdt from there
[10:42] <ali1234> sure, of course
[10:42] <ali1234> it's just memory
[10:42] <ogra_> well, i guess it can ... the question is can it re-read from there rather
[10:42] <ogra_> or does it fall over if you call the fdt command twice
[10:43] <ali1234> no, absolutely not
[10:43] <ogra_> perfect
[10:43] <ali1234> you can load a fdt, extract stuff from it, load a new one and insert stuff into it
[10:43] <ali1234> you can even have more than one in memory at once if you like
[10:43] <ogra_> so you can read the cmdline stuff and then overwrite with your own dtb
[10:43] <ali1234> you just change the active one with fdt <addr>
[10:43] <ali1234> *fdt addr <addr>
[10:44] <ali1234> and you can store the values into variables
[10:45] <ogra_> sure, thats what i do already when loading the initial dtb
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[18:15] <yano> https://youtu.be/d-XbjFn3aqE
[18:15] <jenni> [ Fun With Gas | MythBusters - YouTube ] - https://j.mp/20xyb1h
[23:16] <PCLine__> Hello OHIO
[23:22] <yano> Howdy
[23:28] <PCLine__> Hey yano - Hows things with you?
[23:28] <yano> alrighty, you?
[23:31] <PCLine__> Great today.
[23:31] <PCLine__> Wondering if I could go outside and get something done (in the dark)!
[23:38] <Unit193> ...Is that like "Hello Seattle"?
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2015-11-05-#bzr
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[20:13] <lefteris> Hello guys, I would like to ask if bazzar has the ability to merge a branch with multiple commits into maste with one commit
[20:13] <lefteris> ?
[23:56] <spiv> lefteris1: yes
[23:57] <lefteris1> spiv: thanks a lot
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[00:09] <qwebirc70370> I am running Mythbuntu 12.04 with MythTV 0.27. I noticed in the Software Sources, I have PPAs for 0.25 and 0.26 which are still checked. Is it safe to uncheck those given I'm running 0.27?
[00:59] <tgm4883> qwebirc70370: yes it is
[01:23] <dmfrey> tgm4883, you around?
[01:23] <tgm4883> dmfrey: yep
[01:23] <dmfrey> weird thing has been happening lately
[01:24] <dmfrey> when I do an upgrade on my master backend, mythbuntu control center always has mysql set to disabled, so that it is not exposed on my network for my frontends to connect to
[01:25] <tgm4883> hmm
[01:25] <tgm4883> I don't think theres been any update to MCC in awhile
[01:25] <tgm4883> so might be an old bug
[01:27] <dmfrey> only started recently with the last few updates i have done
[01:30] <tgm4883> dmfrey: since roughly when?
[01:30] <dmfrey> maybe a month or 2
[01:31] <tgm4883> dmfrey: 0.27 or 0.28?
[01:31] <dmfrey> .28
[01:31] <tgm4883> ok
[01:32] <tgm4883> I bet it broke Aug 29th
[01:32] <tgm4883> https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/commit/02aa3a4b9d1c6a8c387606b5d540e66116a5e6ab#diff-2a0def68bc88664e901630c9b624620c
[01:33] <tgm4883> dmfrey: is there a bug report on this?
[01:33] <dmfrey> not sure, i haven't had a chance to really diagnose it yet
[01:34] <tgm4883> dmfrey: ok, I can't fix it now. Can you file a bug report and add that link I posted. Also describe what's happening (eg. what bind-address is set to before the upgrade and after)
[01:34] <dmfrey> that commit looks to be for handling ipv6
[01:34] <dmfrey> that should be off on all my boxes
[01:36] <tgm4883> dmfrey: I'm looking at this stuff from simonlremonger and there are quite a few commits. Many hitting mysql stuff
[01:37] <tgm4883> I'd mention that as well
[01:37] <tgm4883> https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/commits/master/deb
[01:38] <dmfrey> yeah, a bunch of them in that list
[01:39] <tgm4883> I'm not too happy with that, because I think it was all a single merge
[01:39] <tgm4883> but what's done is done. We'll have to do better on merges in the future
[01:40] <dmfrey> we fight that every day :)
[02:21] <qwebirc70370> @tgm4883: Thanks muchly!
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-cm
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[09:06] <ariabbas> .
[10:17] <ongolaBoy> abakamousa: je vois que tu es d์ฑjํช ํช nd์ฑr์ฑ :)
[10:17] <abakamousa> depuis hier
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2015-11-05-#launchpad
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[15:58] <ricotz> hi, is it possible to import/export translations from/to git?
[15:59] <ricotz> while the git repo(s) is located on launchpad
[16:01] <dobey> not yet i think
[16:11] <ricotz> I see
[16:14] <dobey> someone else was asking about that the other day. i think cjwatson said it's being worked on, or is on the list of to be worked on, though
[16:16] <cjwatson> it's somewhere on the backlog but not currently scheduled
[16:26] <ricotz> alright, looking forward to it then
[16:29] <commandoline> I'm interested in that too, so I opened a bug report on it some time ago. Might want to click 'this affects me too': https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1473712
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2015-11-05-#kubuntu
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[00:07] * keithzg was tempted to just build it, but the documentation makes it look like a bit of a mess to do so...never reassuring when there's insistence on using a custom patched version of Qt to compile an application with...
[00:23] <genii> keithzg: Yes, seems odd about the Qt patching.
[00:57] <Voyage> I did nvidio-current and purged all others but I am having the same issue again. All this started when I sent an intrupt signal to xorg process accidently. What can I do to solve my messed up gui in some apps like skype or some right click menu etc
[01:04] <gombean> hey all, I'm experiencing a lot of screen/page tearing on 15.10 using nvidia-352.41 on a 780ti with dual monitors. cheers
[01:04] <gombean> it's most notable when scrolling in firefox
[01:04] <gombean> *noticable
[01:06] <Voyage> I did nvidio-current and purged all others but I am having the same issue again. All this started when I sent an intrupt signal to xorg process accidently. What can I do to solve my messed up gui in some apps like skype or some right click menu etc
[01:06] <Voyage> http://pastie.org/10530697
[01:07] <Voyage> brb
[01:41] <Jhoe> hi
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a ppa or package with a fix for Amarok scanner error"void CollectionScanner::ScanningState::setLastFile(const QString&) QSharedMemory is too small to hold the data."
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> apparently the limit is hardcoded in src/scanner/GenericScannerJob.cpp on line 40
[03:27] <gorilych> hi there! My Kubuntu 15.10 does not list all modes for external monitor in System Settings > Display Configuration all of a sudden. I had to use xrandr to set correct mode.
[03:27] <gorilych> is it a known bug?
[04:52] <Alzabo> hi guys
[11:46] <trixi> hello
[11:48] <trixi> almost every time my system boots up I get this error message http://i.imgur.com/TX9PWd7.png
[11:48] <trixi> I couldn't find anything about it
[11:49] <trixi> so I feel like it's time to ask
[11:49] <trixi> does anyone know what this could be?
[11:51] <hateball> Hmmm
[11:51] <hateball> trixi: do you get that after you have logged on to your desktop?
[11:52] <hateball> trixi: googling suggests it happens if you run spotify and save your session, could that be it?
[11:53] <trixi> wow, how did you find that? :D but yeah I do have spotify!
[11:54] <hateball> I have a black belt in google search :p
[11:54] <trixi> :)
[11:54] <hateball> Well then, simple solution is to close spotify before you quit and save your session
[11:54] <trixi> closing as in logging out?
[11:55] <hateball> Or change options to always start with a blank session
[11:55] <hateball> trixi: Yes
[11:55] <hateball> trixi: alt+space to launch krunner, search for "session"
[11:55] <hateball> trixi: there you can change settings. should be able to blacklist spotify also
[11:55] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:56] <trixi> what does blacklisting do? (sorry)
[11:58] <hateball> trixi: oh it just means that it wont save/restore the state of that application
[11:59] <hateball> trixi: so if you use session restore to have all other apps start when you login, it would mean you need to manually start spotify
[11:59] <trixi> ok cool
[11:59] <hateball> or if you dont need that, just choose to start with a blank session
[12:00] <trixi> well thank you so much!
[15:31] <Doyle> systemd-tty-ask-password-agent is the worst... Is it safe to remove?
[15:36] <ced__> bonjour
[15:36] <ced__> un francais dans le lot ?
[15:39] <Macer> hm. the user manager that kubuntu uses doesn't have an option to encrypt a home dir
[15:39] <Macer> is it ncessary to do this from a shell?
[15:40] <Macer> or did i miss something?
[15:52] <denza242> Macer: i think that's a install-time thing
[16:21] <Macer> denza242: yeah for the first user
[16:21] <Macer> anybody after that requires that you do it from a shell
[16:41] <denza242> Macer: hmm...
[19:44] <spine55> I'm having some wierd video issues when installing kubuntu 15.10 as a guest in virtualbox
[19:44] <spine55> the issue is with the default panel
[19:45] <spine55> It disappears when I click on it to select a menu item
[20:14] <gombean> hi all, is there any way to separate my FLAC and MP3 files in Amarok so I can just listen to .flac or just .mp3?
[21:17] <Eluus> How do I get rid of this screen flicker while maximizing/minimizing windows?
[21:17] <Eluus> on kubuntu 15.10
[21:19] <soee> flicker /
[21:19] <soee> ?
[21:20] <Eluus> yes the application in the background flickers when minimizing/maximizing with the effect on
[21:21] <Eluus> I disabled the minimizing/maximizing effect but the flickering happens while doing some other stuff too
[21:21] <Eluus> shall I change the opengl version or something?
[21:23] <soee> i would have to see this, hard to say what it is :)
[21:23] <Eluus> Guess I'll have to make a video some time then
[22:02] <krsy> hello
[22:02] <krsy> im new in kubuntu
[22:02] <krsy> first linux in my life
[22:02] <krsy> i have a question
[22:02] <krsy> anybody from poland ?
[22:02] <krsy> my eng is bad :)
[22:03] <krsy> i wanna delete bacround from ikons on desktop
[22:03] <krsy> anybody can help me ?:>
[22:07] <soee> delete background ?
[22:07] <krsy> yeah
[22:07] <krsy> from icons on desktop
[22:07] <soee> from texts ?
[22:09] <krsy> i have folder on desktop and this folder have name "dolphin" and ahve milk backgorund
[22:10] <krsy> i wann delte it and have only folder ikon and text
[22:10] <soee> can you show screenshot ?
[22:10] <krsy> all ikons have this milk bckgorund
[22:10] <krsy> yea
[22:10] <krsy> w8
[22:10] <krsy> must upload
[22:10] <soee> yes and you probably wont be able to remove this background
[22:13] <krsy> http://i65.tinypic.com/2mnjfns.png
[22:14] <krsy> and i have secon question, how i can creat "my computer" icon on desk ?::)
[22:14] <soee> there is not such thing as "my computer" :)
[22:14] <krsy> ah ok, dolphin = my computer
[22:14] <krsy> and i cant remove this mil backgorund ?
[22:15] <soee> welll create shortcut to home folder
[22:15] <krsy> *milk
[22:15] <soee> krsy: only text shoudl have background
[22:15] <krsy> soee can u link your desk for example?
[22:15] <krsy> how its look
[22:16] <soee> http://wstaw.org/m/2015/11/05/snapshot34.png
[22:16] <krsy> and i save screen on desk, but i canst see it why ?
[22:16] <krsy> soee u from poland ?
[22:17] <soee> yes, but this channel is english only, so pleae peak english
[22:23] <bprompt> krsy: I use 12.04, but you can customize the desktop at System Settings > workspace apperaance, the background image, you can change it by right-clicking on the desktop and choosing I think is Properties
[22:29] <krsy> hmm i dont see this, have polish version:p
[22:32] <krsy> maybe somoe have video "kubuntu for begginers" etc ?:P
[22:45] <krsy> hmm i install steam
[22:45] <krsy> click on the icon and its doesnt work ..
[22:57] <krsy> anybody know a aplication to control home router wifi ?
[23:04] <krsy> good night al
[23:04] <krsy> all
[23:08] <clivejo> In 15.10 when I use the task manager bar to flick between applications, my cursor often picks up a shortcut to the application I switch to and wants to place it on my desktop, has anyone else experienced this behaviour?
[23:33] <Naizugai> Guys, Kubuntu is really, really awesome. I can't believe I haven't tried it sooner!
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2015-11-05-#snappy
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[01:11] <Sam_> Hi
[01:12] <Sam_> I am trying to build the Snappy Ubuntu Core amd64 image, does any of you have experience to this ?
[08:12] <fgimenez> good morning
[09:48] <longsleep> ogra_: Hey, can you point me to some infos how you folks build the raspi2_armhf system-image channel? Is that created by the system-image or is there a cdimage somewhere for rpi2?
[11:15] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Gunpowder Day, and happy Men Make Dinner Day (totally unrelated)! ๐
[11:17] <woodrowshen> hi all, i just quickly ask a problem, snapcraft will happen errors when the snapcraft.yaml only set the field of seccomp for security policy.
[11:19] <woodrowshen> is it a abnormal rule i used or limitation ?
[11:48] <Chipaca> hah! http://dave.cheney.net/2015/11/05/lets-talk-about-logging
[11:49] * Chipaca points out snappy's logger.Logger interface has exactly two methods :-)
[11:49] <mvo_> Chipaca: I saw that too and I much agree, want debug in standard logger and be happy
[11:49] <Chipaca> one for things the user should see, one for debugging
[11:49] <Chipaca> even documented as such :-)
[11:49] <mvo_> yep
[11:49] <Chipaca> so we went with Notice instead of Info, because we're awkward with names or something :-)
[11:50] <Chipaca> anyway. need to take a break from sending hard emails.
[11:50] <Chipaca> willpower running low :-)
[12:05] <Chipaca> stgraber: ping
[12:06] <Chipaca> stgraber: is there an lxd image manifest anywhere? (is that a thing?)
[12:19] <mvo_> stgraber: and how is it (lxd image) build currently? is the script for that available somewhere
[12:21] <Chipaca> I got to https://images.linuxcontainers.org:8443/images/ubuntu/wily/amd64/default/20151105_03:49/
[12:21] <Chipaca> but no manifest nor nothing
[13:42] <dholbach> Day 3 of UOS starting in about 20 minutes: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/2015-11-05/
[13:43] <clobrano> \0/
[13:46] <ogra_> no way !
[13:46] <ogra_> and tons of snappy topics today too !
[13:47] <dholbach> yeppers :)
[13:50] <stgraber> mvo_, Chipaca: the images on images.linuxcontainers.org are auto-generated images from the lxc-* template scripts we have in LXC, those are generated daily on https://jenkins.linuxcontainers.org using the scipts at github.com/lxc/lxc-ci, no manifest content is published (we could add that though)
[13:51] <stgraber> mvo_, Chipaca: the recommended Ubuntu LXD images are those you get by doing "lxd-images import ubuntu --alias ubuntu" or "lxd-images import ubuntu wily --alias ubuntu-dev", ...
[13:51] <stgraber> those are cloud images and their manifest is published at https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com
[13:52] <stgraber> LXD uses the root.tar.xz images combined with the lxd.tar.xz metadata tarball
[13:52] <Chipaca> stgraber: ah, then i think it's the latter i need for this
[13:53] <stgraber> the lxd-images command will go away in 16.04 in favor of simplestream support directly in LXD, at which point you'll get things like "lxc launch ubuntu:lts my-container" and that will just work straight after installation, the image will be cached for you and kept up to date behind the scene
[14:55] <ali1234> so what exactly does a snapcraft plugin do?
[14:58] <ogra_> ali1234, everything to build a snap with a specific build tool ...
[14:59] <ogra_> i.e. we have a cmake plugin that allows you to define the github tree for some cmake using source and then call snapcraft build to generate a snap for you
[15:00] <tedg> elopio: Can we ask coveralls to only fail if the coverage goes down by like a half percent or something? There seems to be a lot of noise there.
[15:01] <ali1234> i'm looking at my github right now and actually there is quite a few things on here that could be packaged with snappy i suspect
[15:01] <ali1234> and also a few that just don't make any sense at all
[15:02] <elopio> tedg: I will check. But I like the noise, it will make you add an autotools test when you get really tired of it.
[15:05] <tedg> elopio: Sure, but I have an MR that gets an "x" because coveralls thinks it decreased by 0.03%
[15:05] <elopio> tedg: yes, it's possible, but I'm not an owner of the repo.
[15:05] <elopio> there's a notifications tab.
[15:05] <tedg> Hmm, okay. I'll look.
[15:06] <elopio> oh wait, I think it's possible, but the screenshot doesn't show the full controls.
[15:06] <longsleep> ogra_: quick question, when building the raspi2 image with u-d-f how do you make it select the raspi2_armhf device channel, using the --device parameter?
[15:06] <ogra_> longsleep, right
[15:07] <longsleep> ogra_: ok, i was wondering if i should care that this option is listed as deprectated
[15:08] <ogra_> longsleep, we need to drop this warning i guess ... even though sergiusens will cry :)
[15:09] <longsleep> ogra_: ok cool, i finally had time to try out my own system image server and hat to use this parameter to make it use the odroidc channel
[15:27] <longsleep> Another question, when you build ubuntu-core preinstalled images, does the stable line also build with ppa:snappy-dev/image ? Docs in the ppa say its only used in edge.
[15:28] <ogra_> after 15.04 release we started using the PPA there too for fixes
[15:28] <ogra_> (the SRU turnaround time is sometimes to slow so the PPA is used as staging area for this)
[15:29] <longsleep> ogra_: ok, so the ppa is required currently to build 15.04 snappy images - correct?
[15:29] <ogra_> right
[15:29] <longsleep> ogra_: ok, thanks for confirming
[15:29] <ogra_> but why would you do that at all
[15:29] <ogra_> just make your s-i server import the one from the ubuntu s-i server
[15:30] <ogra_> and only provide your own device tarball
[15:30] <longsleep> ogra_: yeah i have that now, but now i need to change some things in the ubuntu-core rootfs
[15:30] <longsleep> ogra_: can i do this with the system-image server?
[15:30] <ogra_> eeek !
[15:31] <ogra_> only if you set up your own build env
[15:31] <longsleep> ogra_: i am trying to avoid it still - experimenting with it
[15:31] <ogra_> which is rather very complex
[15:31] <longsleep> ogra_: i got that as well, i mean i can build the rootfs with cdimage and all
[15:31] <ogra_> yeah, but you really shouldnt
[15:31] <longsleep> ogra_: but it tages ages and that cdimage scripting has soooo many features
[15:32] <ogra_> especially in the light that system-image is going away soon
[15:32] <ogra_> and you will have an OS snap that contains the rootfs
[15:32] <longsleep> ogra_: yeah - but still, i need to be able to modify the rootfs - add own key ring for example
[15:33] <longsleep> ogra_: i have not completely understood all aspects of the system-image server scripts - maybe that one can incorporate some overlay tarball on top of the pulled upstream rootfs
[15:34] <ogra_> not sure thats supported in snappy, the overlay thing is for the vendor tarball on phones
[15:34] <ogra_> in snappy you would have an additional snap in the store that your oem snap pulls in
[15:34] <longsleep> ogra_: ok - but how can that overwrite stuff which is part of the rootfs?
[15:35] <ogra_> it cant on snappy
[15:35] <ogra_> and on the phone it doesnt do that either, it installs to rw space and gets linked/bind mounted
[15:36] <longsleep> ogra_: well that would be fine with me too
[15:36] <ogra_> (or the apps simply get changed to read fro the overlay location)
[15:36] <ogra_> it isnt a concept to use in snappy
[15:36] <ogra_> it wont work
[15:36] <longsleep> understood, thats why i currently have to modify the rootfs / build my own rootfs
[15:36] <ogra_> what do you change ?
[15:38] <longsleep> update without internet connection from own url for example, replace openssl with libressl, change client.ini to use own system image server
[15:38] <longsleep> i am pretty sure there is more to come
[15:39] <longsleep> btw, the client.ini might actually be a bug, or might not be used at all by snappy tool - to sure but when installed from another system image server, only default.ini has the custom server and snappy update fetches stuff from system-image.ubuntu.com (configured in client.ini)
[15:39] <longsleep> let me know if you think it is a bug and want me to add it
[15:39] <ogra_> it might be a bug, but as i saidm system-image is completely going away soon
[15:40] <ogra_> for snappy that is
[15:40] <ogra_> your rootfs will be a snap from the store with a readonly img inside
[15:40] <longsleep> yeah - we will change whatever needs to change then - no problem
[15:40] <longsleep> ogra_: i will be one of the first to test if you have something i can test
[15:41] <ogra_> :)
[15:41] <ogra_> it will happen for 16.04
[15:41] <longsleep> yeah i cannot wait until then
[15:42] <longsleep> but, wouldnt there still be some bootstrapping system image which then mounds the readonly image?
[15:42] <longsleep> ogra_: or do you want to put all this into the ramdisk?
[15:43] <ogra_> i would love to actually use the initrd *as* the readonly rootfs (like android does) ... but i fear that wont happen (too much pr-mount stuff that we need to do)
[15:43] <ogra_> i was pondering to bring that setup up on the mailing list though
[15:44] <ogra_> s/pr/pre/
[15:44] <longsleep> yeah probably a good idea, it would be nice to have it all inside initrd to avoid having some preloader gear on disk
[15:45] <longsleep> ogra_: if there is something outside the ramdisk and something outside that rootfs from a snap then that something will need to be changed eventually by some and the situation is not so much different from today
[15:48] <longsleep> ogra_: i read on the ml, that you work on building the device tarball outside of cdimage - while that would be awesome i would also be interested to create a much simpler rootfs build script - do you see any problems with a simple debootstrap approach, assuming all the hooks for ubuntu-core are run?
[15:49] <ogra_> longsleep, no, i'm building it inside of cdimage
[15:50] <longsleep> ogra_: oh - then i misread your mail sorry
[15:50] <ogra_> longsleep, i'm just moving it to a later point in the build and try to get rid of all tools inside the rootfs that are related to it
[15:50] <ogra_> so that i.e. something like initramfs-tools and all its deps are not in the readonly rootfs anymore
[15:51] <longsleep> ogra_: i see - that would be nice yes
[15:51] <longsleep> ogra_: so your goal is to reduce the rootfs from build dependencies for the device part - understood
[15:51] <ogra_> i'm not yet sure how we'll create it in a "all snaps" world
[15:52] <longsleep> thats pretty similar of what i want to have, i mean i have many debootstrap minbase scripts for various targets producing a minimal rootfs - i would like to create the snappy rootfs the same way if possible
[15:53] <longsleep> and for my case, i never need that script to produce a device tarball as this comes in extra from another source
[15:54] <ogra_> right
[15:55] <longsleep> i mean i totally get why you folks create the images like you currently do, existing infrastructure and all - but for an outside the cdimage approach is really complicated
[15:56] <longsleep> especially if you only want to build for a single target and version
[15:58] <elopio> plars: ev: things are happening, finally: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13112950/
[15:59] <ogra_> well, preferably you shouldnt modify the OS snap/readonly rootfs
[16:00] <plars> elopio: indeed, we are back online :)
[16:00] <ogra_> and preferably we'd prouce an OS snap that suits you to be able to put a framework snap on top to provide your differences
[16:01] <elopio> plars: I will now replace the deb + unpack with installing it from the ppa, as we talked long ago. I'm sorry this is still taking so much time.
[16:01] <plars> elopio: no problem, hard to iterate on it when things were down, plus there was that bug
[16:02] <longsleep> ogra_: yeah - i am happy to provide feedback as things evolve - for now i am on the page to build that system no matter what and beeing as snappy-ish as possible without loosing possible customizations
[16:02] <longsleep> ogra_: btw, cloud-init - we talked about this a long time ago - i want to have it gone :)
[16:03] <ogra_> longsleep, me too, but i'm not sure it will actually happen
[16:03] <longsleep> ogra_: same goes for systemd timesyncd as it is insecure
[16:03] <ogra_> we might keep it and have it comppletely disabled or so
[16:04] <longsleep> ogra_: and all that smartcard stuff - i am not even sure why that is there
[16:05] <longsleep> ogra_: well i am listening if anyone wants to explain why snappy needs to run pkcsslotd by default
[16:05] <elopio> plars: can you please add the tools-proposed ppa on the agent, in case you haven't already? https://launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+archive/ubuntu/tools-proposed
[16:06] <ogra_> longsleep, cant tell you ... i was asked to seed it, thats all i know
[16:06] <plars> elopio: will do, but it will only get updated when we deploy or manually update it
[16:06] <plars> elopio: that's ok?
[16:07] <elopio> plars: can't you tell the agent to autoupdate? That's the idea, to make it easy to push a new version of the tests to the agents.
[16:07] <longsleep> ogra_: well ok - but someone has to know :)
[16:08] <plars> elopio: that's pretty risky I think... if it's infrastructure, we should be deploying a known-good, tested version
[16:08] <plars> elopio: if it's for a test, it should get pushed in temporarily via the test, and abandoned at the end of the test
[16:09] <plars> elopio: otherwise it could leave the test environment in an unstable condition for future tests
[16:09] <plars> elopio: this if for things like ubuntu-device-flash I guess?
[16:22] <Chipaca> where were the generic-amd64 snap sources?
[16:22] * Chipaca <- bad memory
[16:25] <Chipaca> https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-systems
[16:25] <Chipaca> got it
[16:25] <ogra_> https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/snappy-hub/snappy-systems
[16:25] <ogra_> bah
[16:25] <Chipaca> mbuahaha
[16:25] <ogra_> :)
[16:40] <ev> elopio: what am I looking at? :) I mean I see SPI data in there (test_opportunity.json), but itโs also a wall of text
[16:40] <elopio> ev: you are looking at the output of the tests running in the bbb in the lab.
[16:40] <ev> woohoo
[16:40] <ev> running every day?
[16:41] <elopio> they fail because the script is taking an outdated deb, but that's good, they should fail.
[16:41] <ev> hah!
[16:41] <elopio> ev: yes, they run every day, but for now deployed on my canonistack jenkins.
[16:41] <elopio> plars: sorry, I was on a hangout.
[16:43] <elopio> plars: let me try without a package. Just copying all the golang setup.
[16:43] <elopio> plars: but on travis we have the option to install packages and ppas. We are taking advantage of that in many of our tests, it would be nice if we could do it here too, somehow.
[16:45] <plars> elopio: thats on your test instance, which gets created/destroyed every time, in the spi case, that is equivilent to the system running snappy, which you can absolutely do whatever you want to it
[16:46] <plars> creating a new host for it each time, would require another provisioned instance in the middle of the device host, and the device itself.. it's something we could explore but would be complicated and add some additional time to the process
[16:46] <fgimenez> elopio, can you please take a look at https://github.com/fgimenez/snappy-github-plugin/pull/2 when you have time?
[16:46] <elopio> plars: that's the problem with this model. We need to do stuff on the test bed, and on the controller.
[16:47] <elopio> the way to avoid that was to package the stuff of the controller in this deb package that is on the ppa.
[16:47] <fgimenez> elopio, jenkins job triggered from github, if you could propose a PR for testing it would be great
[16:47] <plars> elopio: I think we can work with what you want to do pretty easily, we just need to separate what is required/stable infrastructure from what is being tested
[16:48] <elopio> plars: let me first tackle the daily problem with what you have today.
[16:48] <plars> elopio: and I think it might make things easier for your use case if you don't feel like you have to build everything on the test host
[16:48] <elopio> then we will try to solve harder problems, like testing the branches and testing snapcraft.
[16:48] <plars> elopio: for example, you can do whatever you want on your jenkins, build a new version of snappy tools, ubuntu-device-flash, etc... and ship those down to the job when it runs. It would also likely cut your execution time
[16:48] <elopio> fgimenez: woohoo.
[16:48] <fgimenez> elopio, your user is whitelisted, so the job should be triggered automatically. you can trigger a rebuild with a comment "retest this please"
[16:49] <elopio> fgimenez: I need to walk with the dog because he's driving me crazy. I will try when I return.
[16:49] <fgimenez> elopio, ok thx!
[16:50] <elopio> fgimenez: so wait, if I propose a branch to ubuntu-core/snappy it will take it and run tests for it?
[16:50] <fgimenez> elopio, no, its only for that repo, and the build is currently a couple of echo commands
[16:50] <elopio> ahhh
[16:50] <fgimenez> elopio, you should fork it and PR to it
[16:51] <elopio> fgimenez: cool. bbs.
[17:27] <ev> elopio: awesome!
[18:49] <plars> sergiusens: would something like https://github.com/plars/snapcraft/tree/empty-plugin be welcome? I saw some discussion about possibly having something like this and/or modifying copy to make it not require files to copy... but I think that's a bit confusing (copy but don't *really* copy)
[18:49] <sergiusens> plars, we wanted to call it the 'null' plugin :-)
[18:49] <plars> sergiusens: as an added bonus, it enables things like https://github.com/plars/snapcraft/commit/9118f2bb67c10c868109cdc5d3ac5052bbe28121 - testing init with parts specified
[18:49] <plars> sergiusens: yeah, I tried that, but it turns out null is a special word in yaml I think :)
[18:50] <plars> sergiusens: it choked on that
[18:50] <plars> it reads it as NoneType
[18:51] <plars> on a related note, I don't see a way to actually use snapcraft init with the partname specified with the current set. All of them seem to have required args with no way to specify. Is that an issue with snapcraft, or an issue with me not seeing how to specify it? :)
[18:52] <plars> I don't see any way at the moment to specify it, but perhaps I'm just missing it
[18:57] <zyga> sergiusens, plars: joc_ implemented a null plugin earlier this week :)
[19:01] <sergiusens> zyga, I don't see it! :-D
[19:01] <sergiusens> plars, init with parts needs some love/refactor
[19:01] <zyga> sergiusens: it was merged to plainbox-provider-p... as a local plugin
[19:01] <zyga> sergiusens: I encouraged joc to propose it to snapcraft
[19:02] <zyga> sergiusens: if you want I can dig it out and push
[19:02] <zyga> sergiusens: no tests though
[19:02] <zyga> sergiusens: (it's really trivial though)
[19:02] <joc_> very trivial
[19:03] <sergiusens> joc_, zyga we can use it in our unit tests instead of the mocked plugins though and then, yay, tests ;-)
[19:03] <sergiusens> but deal with plars since he has one there too
[19:04] <zyga> joc_: see if your plugins is any different from the one plars made and let's get one landed in snapcraft
[19:04] <zyga> joc_: less x- the better
[19:07] <plars> zyga: ah, I didn't even know that, I'm not subscribed to that I guess
[19:07] <plars> joc_: you should propose then
[22:16] <zyga> sergiusens: hey, leo reported something about scenarios for thest that have the same steps
[22:16] <zyga> sergiusens: that sounds awfully like templates which we do support
[22:16] <zyga> sergiusens: do you know more what he was thinking about?
[22:17] <tedg> elopio: ^
[22:17] <zyga> tedg: ah, thanks
[22:18] <elopio> zyga: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/blob/master/integration-tests/units/examples.pxu
[22:18] <elopio> all the tests in there are the same, changing the dir.
[22:18] <elopio> zyga: tell me more about templates...
[22:18] <zyga> elopio: perfect :)
[22:18] <zyga> elopio: it's very easy, write one more job that does the equvalent of ls examples/*
[22:18] <zyga> elopio: and prints something like this to stdout:
[22:18] <zyga> elopio: name: godd\n\n
[22:19] <zyga> elopio: name: gopaste\n\n
[22:19] <zyga> elopio: etc
[22:19] <zyga> elopio: make that a plugin: resource
[22:19] <zyga> elopio: and run it to see that it works OK
[22:19] <zyga> elopio: then step two
[22:19] <zyga> elopio: take any of the example jobs
[22:19] <zyga> elopio: replace the name of the example with {name}
[22:19] <zyga> and stick this up front in the unit:
[22:19] <zyga> unit: template
[22:19] <zyga> template-unit: job
[22:19] <zyga> template-resource: id-of-the-resource-you-made
[22:20] <zyga> then last step is to stick the resource in front of the test plan
[22:20] <zyga> and also add one more field to the test plan: boostrap_jobs: id-of-the-resource-you-made
[22:20] <zyga> (you have to reference it twice for now)
[22:20] <zyga> elopio: I'll give you the man page with everything
[22:20] <elopio> zyga: I'll try when I get back and report how it went. Thanks.
[22:21] <zyga> elopio: http://plainbox.readthedocs.org/en/latest/manpages/plainbox-template-units.html
[22:21] <zyga> elopio: scroll to the example
[22:21] <zyga> elopio: just one gotcha, { } are expanded with python format-like system
[22:22] <zyga> elopio: so {{ }} are good for quoting
[22:22] <zyga> elopio: that's not mentioned in the man page
[22:22] <zyga> elopio: you will have to do quoting
[22:22] <zyga> elopio: or drop ${foo} in favour of $foo
[22:23] <zyga> elopio: try it and send me a link tomorrow, if anything needs tweaking I'll help you out
[22:24] <zyga> elopio: the only weird thing with templates is that with the new world we're going to (all the new tools but _not_ plainbox CLI yet), resource jobs that instantiate jobs from templates need to be listed in boostrap_include in the test plan
[22:24] <zyga> elopio: http://plainbox.readthedocs.org/en/latest/manpages/plainbox-test-plan-units.html
[22:24] <zyga> elopio: but plainbox CLI is the last thing to go and for that you still have to just list it in the plain include section
[22:24] <zyga> elopio: so list it twice and that will be okay
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[04:19] <pieter2627> morning all
[04:19] <pieter2627> well, all the early ones
[06:00] <thatgraemeguy> just you pieter2627 :)
[06:00] <thatgraemeguy> morning all
[06:04] <pieter2627> yea, got so bored that my nails got a 'trimming' :P
[06:17] <Kilos> hi pieter2627 thatgraemeguy
[06:17] <Kilos> and inetpro and other lurkers
[06:22] <pieter2627> hello Kilos
[07:06] <theblazehen> Sup guys
[07:07] <inetpro> good morings oom Kilos
[07:07] <inetpro> oh and hi everyone else
[07:07] <theblazehen> hey inetpro
[07:07] <Kilos> hi theblazehen you ok lad?
[07:07] <theblazehen> Sup Kilos, yeah I'm good and you?
[07:08] <Kilos> good ty
[07:08] <inetpro> oom Kilos is way too slack these days :-)
[07:08] <Kilos> hehehe sorry inetpro
[07:09] * Kilos notes topic hasnt changed
[07:23] <Xethron> Good morning guys
[07:36] <theblazehen> hi Xethron
[07:54] <magespawn> good morning
[08:03] <theblazehen> hi magespawn
[08:06] <magespawn> hey theblazehen
[08:28] <theblazehen> http://i.imgur.com/BJ1m5Xw.jpg I quite like my setup :) 5 Displays
[08:28] <theblazehen> 1024x768 + 1366x768 + 1600x900 + 1366x768 + 1024x768
[08:44] <TinuvaMac> theblazehen: great word doc you have open there
[08:44] <TinuvaMac> some super secret info
[08:46] <theblazehen> TinuvaMac: heh, yeah.. Studying for finals
[08:58] <andrewlsd> hope theblazehen has patented that so no one else can procreate that way.
[09:50] <pieter2627> theblazehen: you still have subjects left?
[09:50] <theblazehen> pieter2627: yeah, most of them. Only wrote likt 5 or 6 exams so far
[09:51] <pieter2627> wow, we were done by now
[09:55] <theblazehen> I'm in a private school, so write a bit later
[09:56] <Xethron> theblazehen: What do you use to get so many screens? USB adapters?
[09:56] <pieter2627> haha, last year they said your in private so will write earlier
[09:56] * pieter2627 was also in private (homeschool)
[09:57] <theblazehen> Xethron: nah, I'm using my intel onboard for the main rendering, outputs to VGA and HDMI, then a GTX550Ti set as a RandR output slave with 2x DVI and then a GT210 with 1x VGA output
[09:57] <theblazehen> pieter2627: huh, weird
[09:58] <Xethron> Meh :/ I'm looking for something to increase my displays of my laptop
[09:58] <theblazehen> Onboard faster than my dedicated GPU :/ Although I did get it for free as a "broken" gpu. Runs with nouveau but not nvidia
[09:58] <theblazehen> Xethron: If the USB one supports displaylink then it should work afaik
[09:58] <Xethron> Laptop luckly has 2 outputs, and its screen. So I can have 3. But would like another one or two :P
[09:59] <Xethron> I haven't heard good things with Linux and those USB adapters
[09:59] <Xethron> So not sure if its worth trying
[09:59] <theblazehen> Yeah, I think for my laptop 3 should be fine :)
[09:59] <theblazehen> Yeah, you need to use the modesetting drivers etc
[10:00] <Xethron> Sounds like effort
[10:00] <theblazehen> Using intel onboard? I find intel has best support ofr offloading
[10:00] <Xethron> I'll wait for USB-C
[10:00] <theblazehen> Yeah, I once had a 6 display setup, running a virtual display and connecting my laptop with vnc :)
[10:01] <theblazehen> Yeah, hopefully that works better. Although I think that standard is displaylink though?
[10:01] <Xethron> Intel CPU yes, NVIDIA GPU
[10:01] <theblazehen> Ah, nvidia gpu.. Could cause problems. Using nouveau or nvidia driver?
[10:02] <theblazehen> My setup won't work with nouveau as the main display
[10:02] <Xethron> I don't use the propriatary drivers
[10:02] <theblazehen> AMD is worse than nvidia though.. Had my HD5450 swapped out for a GT210
[10:02] <Xethron> They always seem to cause issues
[10:02] <theblazehen> Yeah, same here. Luckily the intel GPU drivers are great
[10:02] <magespawn> i use a VGA splitter with four outputs
[10:03] <pieter2627> Isn't USB-C just a form factor (no new standards)
[10:03] <Xethron> Yeah, seems to be xserver-xorg-ideo-nouveau
[10:03] <theblazehen> pieter2627: I think it might just be a new form factor, but there are also going to be new standards or something?
[10:03] <Xethron> pieter2627: USB-C is like that Apple thing
[10:04] <Xethron> Whats that wire new iphones have
[10:04] <Xethron> And the Apple screens use?
[10:04] <theblazehen> Xethron: Won't work unless you try it I guess.. You don't have an old desktop at home
[10:04] <theblazehen> Xethron: iphone: lightning, think displays are thunderbolt?
[10:04] <Xethron> Yes, thunderbolt
[10:05] <Xethron> Apple is also dropping all its Thunderbolt technology in favour of USB-C
[10:05] <magespawn> so not technically four screens
[10:06] <theblazehen> magespawn: Different from the ones that have 4 duplicate screens? That's what they have at school..
[10:07] <magespawn> it is a duplicate, then i just extend the desktop rather than duplicate it, work like a projector
[10:07] <magespawn> cheap and nasty
[10:08] <magespawn> but works no matter what laptop i plug in
[10:23] <theblazehen> Yeah, seems to be xserver-xorg-ideo-nouveau puters breakingbad confucius dexter{,slab} kernelnewbies portal{,2} vimtips debian science archlinux hackers linux matrix protolol) <(echo) <(python2 -c 'print \"-\"*50') <(echo);done"|fmt -w 52}
[10:23] <theblazehen> Oops
[10:23] <theblazehen> ${color3}${font DejaVu Sans Mono:size=10}${execi 60 bash -c "for i in 1 2 3 4 5; do cat <(fortune -a computers breakingbad confucius dexter{,slab} kernelnewbies portal{,2} vimtips debian science archlinux hackers linux matrix protolol) <(echo) <(python2 -c 'print \"-\"*50') <(echo);done"|fmt -w 52}
[10:24] <theblazehen> ^What happens when you realize conky has a line length limit
[10:24] <andrewlsd> lol
[10:25] <theblazehen> Could save 2 characters if i used 'seq 1 5' instead of the '1 2 3 4 5', ah well. Got it small enough now
[10:25] <andrewlsd> Similar results with: for i in {1..5}
[10:26] <andrewlsd> (applies to bash, YMMV with other envs)
[10:26] <theblazehen> yeah, forgot about that.. saves 1 char more than my seq solution. ty
[10:26] <theblazehen> actually no, since seq would need to be surrounded by ` or with $()
[10:33] <theblazehen> So yours saves 3 characters
[10:33] <andrewlsd> ;-)
[11:01] <andrewlsd> anyone here looked at "snappy-desktop" or managed to get Unity8 ?
[11:02] <andrewlsd> I tried the unity8-lxc session, but it didn't ever build successfully
[11:02] <andrewlsd> basically, I just want a ISO/USB that I can boot from and test drive.
[11:16] <theblazehen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso This?
[11:16] <theblazehen> Got it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop
[13:25] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: thanks. that link is from 2014, and the "daily live" link is dead
[13:31] <andrewlsd> regarding UDS: Am I correct that the sessions start 16h00 SA time?
[13:55] <inetpro> andrewlsd: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/2015-11-05/
[13:55] <andrewlsd> ty inetpro
[13:56] <inetpro> oh and yes, 14:00 UTC = 16:00 SAST
[14:12] <andrewlsd> checking out #ubuntu-uos-convergence
[14:48] <Kilos> i hope neology is upgrading and not down
[14:48] <Kilos> hi skokkk
[14:52] <skokkk> ello kilos
[14:56] <theblazehen> Kilos: I'm hoping to get another South African mirror running next year :)
[14:57] <Kilos> wow
[14:57] <Kilos> hard work getting it added
[14:58] <Kilos> the za mirror is running lekker fast today
[14:58] <theblazehen> Just gotta get some cash first :) Around 1.5k per month to host, unlimited 100mbit pipe
[14:58] <theblazehen> nice
[14:58] <Kilos> eish
[14:58] <theblazehen> Just gotta buy a 1U server first
[14:59] <Kilos> why do you want to do that
[14:59] <Kilos> we have 2 good local mirrors
[14:59] <theblazehen> To like give back to the community in a way
[14:59] <Kilos> aw restart needed
[14:59] <theblazehen> Also gonna host mirror for arch, gonna be the 2nd delta mirror
[14:59] <Kilos> aha
[15:00] <Kilos> wbb
[15:00] <theblazehen> Yeah. Only 1 delta mirror at the moment
[15:03] <theblazehen> wb Kilos
[15:03] <Kilos> ty
[15:11] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[15:12] <superfly> Hi
[15:53] <Kilos> hey theblazehen you still here?
[15:54] <theblazehen> Sup Kilos, yeah I'm here
[15:54] <Kilos> you were gone so long
[15:54] <Kilos> do you know about #ubuntu-africa
[15:54] <theblazehen> First I heard of it
[15:54] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-africa.info
[15:55] <theblazehen> ty
[15:55] <Kilos> your welcome to join the mailing list and the irc channel
[15:55] <theblazehen> Yeah, I will
[15:56] <Kilos> refresh the site a few times and watch the backgroung change
[15:56] <Kilos> background
[16:17] <theblazehen> Kilos: nice
[16:17] <Kilos> the fly led the site building
[16:20] <theblazehen> awesome. Nice job superfly
[16:28] <Kilos> lovely site hey
[16:30] <theblazehen> yeah
[16:47] <superfly> Thanks
[16:58] <who_da_fly> Meh
[16:58] <Kilos> hehe
[17:06] <Cryterion> Good Evening everyone
[17:41] * Kilos yawns
[17:41] <Kilos> long night ahead
[17:44] <theblazehen> Kilos: What's happening?
[17:44] <Kilos> membership board meeting at midnight
[17:44] <theblazehen> ah
[17:44] <Kilos> sigh
[17:57] <magespawn> good evening
[17:59] <Kilos> hi magespawn pieter2627 Cryterion
[17:59] <Kilos> and MaNI
[17:59] <pieter2627> hallooo all
[18:00] <magespawn> hey Kilos pieter2627
[18:01] <pieter2627> Kilos: I am reading the log so will have feedback in a bit
[18:01] <Kilos> cool ty
[18:02] <Kilos> ive forgotten what i asked even
[18:04] <pieter2627> Kilos: is clr_ with any lug?
[18:04] <Kilos> oh my
[18:04] <Kilos> what did he say
[18:05] <pieter2627> he seems the most keen about a linuxconza or linuxfestza - the one that broad them up
[18:06] <pieter2627> sounds like the same karl that organized SFD
[18:08] <Kilos> dont think its karl
[18:08] <pieter2627> for the lugs members you mentioned we have Vince of Durbs, then there is also grmble of tuks
[18:09] <pieter2627> oh ok (clr almost sounds like it)
[18:09] <Kilos> oh ya and wwk in durbs'
[18:10] <pieter2627> and then should also be someone from jozi?
[18:10] <Kilos> but i get the dbn lug mails and they have been dead quiet for months
[18:11] <Kilos> 2 of thejozi lug guys came here some months ago and stayed a couple of days
[18:12] <magespawn> pieter2627: if i recall correctly karl is kmf on freenode
[18:12] <pieter2627> ty magespawn
[18:13] <magespawn> brb
[18:13] <Kilos> ya ty magespawn i couldnt remember
[18:13] <magespawn> np
[18:14] <pieter2627> Kilos: sounded like you might have had g+ (whre you thought it is best to connect) info on some lugs which we can try
[18:14] <Kilos> the durban lug guys have hangouts on G+
[18:15] <Kilos> even their mailing list gets done from there i think
[18:16] <Kilos> maybe jozi lug are also G+ers
[18:16] <pieter2627> yip, the hangout is what you mentioned that made me think you might have the other's too
[18:16] <Kilos> didnt i say i dont do G+ often
[18:16] <Kilos> inetpro is the G+ man
[18:17] <pieter2627> yip, which is why you asked for help
[18:17] <Kilos> maybe we need to rock his boat
[18:17] * Kilos rocks the pros cradle
[18:18] <Kilos> not smoothly either
[18:18] <pieter2627> haha, else we can start scouting g+ tom
[18:18] * Kilos jerks the cradle a bit
[18:19] <Kilos> all the dn lug guys have slacked off here
[18:19] <pieter2627> Kilos you are making me cradle-sick :P
[18:20] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:20] <Kilos> Maaz seen nuvolari
[18:20] <Maaz> Kilos: nuvolari was last seen 1 month, 11 days, 1 minute and 29 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-09-25 11:18:46 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-10-20 16:00:29 PDT
[18:20] <Kilos> wow
[18:20] <pieter2627> aahh
[18:20] <Kilos> he used to live here
[18:20] <Kilos> CT corrupted him
[18:22] <Kilos> pro should get here in about
[18:22] <pieter2627> anyway, will see again tomorrow
[18:22] <Kilos> 8 mins
[18:22] <magespawn> too busy out taking photos of the country side
[18:22] <pieter2627> Night all
[18:22] <Kilos> ok
[18:22] <Kilos> sleep tight pieter2627
[18:22] <pieter2627> Kilos: 8mins?
[18:22] <Kilos> ya
[18:23] <Kilos> pro has family time till 8.30
[19:56] <magespawn> back again
[20:01] <thatgraemeguy> oh hai
[20:04] <magespawn> hey
[21:02] <gremble> I've had to set up an SSL connection in order to get onto IRC through mweb -_-
[21:12] <Kilos> hi Guest9474
[21:12] <Kilos> whats happening gremble
[21:12] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[21:12] <Kilos> why is it not doing irc
[21:12] <gremble> I don't know
[21:12] <gremble> I have been struggling to get onto irc for days now
[21:13] <gremble> It would just drop the connection for the entire day
[21:13] <Kilos> does it give error reports
[21:13] <gremble> No, it just dies. Refusing to connect
[21:13] <Kilos> fone them and complain'
[21:13] <gremble> then tries to reconncet
[21:14] <gremble> So I tried setting up a tor connection, but freenode doesn't support tor atm. Set up SSL and now it magically works
[21:15] <Kilos> ya but you shouldnt need to hassle like that
[21:15] <Kilos> irc works easy normally
[21:16] <gremble> Kilos: I agree. At least it has given me the opportunity to learn about SSL certificates and got me thinking about implementing a toy messing app that uses UDP instead of TCP
[21:16] <Kilos> ok
[21:16] <gremble> How have you been Kilos?
[21:16] <Kilos> ive been good ty, just tired
[21:17] <Kilos> would have been in bed hours ago if not for a board meeting
[21:17] <gremble> Oh alright. I think my belly is keeping me awake, and the fact that I have been sleeping the entire day. I've been inbed sick since sunday
[21:17] <gremble> :/
[21:18] <Kilos> oh my
[21:18] <Kilos> whats wrong
[21:18] <Kilos> haha refined salt
[21:18] <gremble> Flu or something that my mother picked up at the hospital (where she works) and it just hit me hard
[21:18] <gremble> Haha probably :P
[21:18] <Kilos> oh my
[21:18] <Kilos> lotsa bugs in hospitals
[21:19] <gremble> Yep. We'll just have to fortify our immune systems
[21:37] <gremble> Hey magespawn
[22:25] <Kilos> fp
[22:26] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
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[00:15] <valorie> hi folks, someone posted this link in #kubuntu the other day: http://www.ryananddebi.com/2015/07/13/linux-getting-find-working-in-dolphin-on-kde-linux-mint-and-kubuntu/
[00:16] <valorie> and I wonder if we can test and fix whatever the problem is, or at least file bugs on the appropriate places?
[00:16] <valorie> I don't know where to start
[00:35] <sgclark> valorie: hmm I cannot reproduce
[00:35] <keithzg> valorie: Well, I can tell you at least that I can repro the problem on my 14.04 install at work.
[00:36] <keithzg> (as in, I hadn't realized it was more than just me, heh)
[00:36] <sgclark> oh I see
[00:36] <sgclark> because I have baloo installed...
[00:36] <valorie> ah, that's trusty, right?
[00:36] <keithzg> valorie: Yup.
[00:36] <keithzg> And yeah, baloo not installed.
[00:37] <sgclark> so dolphin or in the case of trusty kdebase-apps needs a depends on baloo
[00:37] <sgclark> I can fix that
[00:37] <valorie> the one thing that didn't ring quite right to me is that we didn't have baloo installed by default
[00:37] * sgclark goes to fix
[00:37] <keithzg> Ehhh should we really be doing that? I don't *want* baloo installed on this machien.
[00:37] <sgclark> oh?
[00:37] <sgclark> ok I am confused then
[00:38] <keithzg> And as the post points out, Dolphin doesn't actually need baloo to run searching, it's just one of the possible ways it can.
[00:38] <valorie> but I hadn't heard about that problem before, and it sounds like it is a linked set of problems, not the lack of baloo
[00:38] <valorie> which is why I raised the issue here
[00:38] * sgclark finishes reading
[00:49] <sgclark> well, it certainly does appear to be an issue brought up in various forums and the like. Surprised it is my first of hearing it. Heh. Definately needs to be brought up upstream I think. If indeed baloo should not be required.
[00:57] <sgclark> well I do not even have the settings manager bit for desktop-search so I cannot reproduce any of it :( but I know it is a valid problem out there. SAdly I do not see any bugs reported at bug.kde.org so I am also not sure how to procedd here.
[00:59] <sgclark> Closest I found https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347916
[01:00] <sgclark> asked the reporters to see if their issue was close to the blogs
[01:00] <sgclark> guess that is a start.
[01:00] <sgclark> anyway I need a break, off till tomorrow
[01:30] <keithzg> Closest I found wasn't very close either, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348902
[01:32] <keithzg> It does mention that to manually search in Dolphin you use either baloosearch:/ (Baloo package) or filenamesearch:/ (kio-extras package),
[01:34] <keithzg> and I can confirm that manually searching with baloosearch:/ results in an identical-appearing error while filenamesearch:/ appears to work (never actually returns any results, mind you, but I really don't know the syntax so that's not necessarily a surprise).
[07:47] <soee> hiho, firefox 42 in updates today
[09:23] <_Ridgewing> Morning everyone \o/ (stretches to the ceiling)
[09:39] <_Ridgewing> sick_rimmit: Are you not well, today ?
[10:37] <ovidiu-florin> yofel, Riddell sitter, or whomever, I don't have admin on the Kubuntu Romania Trello Board.
[10:38] <ovidiu-florin> either please give me rights, or archive the board
[10:38] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: done, I think
[10:38] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[10:57] <clivejo> yofel: regarding ksuperkey, what are the plans for it?
[11:13] <clivejo> oooo a new version of Kubuntu is available!
[11:40] <mparillo> clivejo: yofel: I thought NetRunner used ksuperkey, but when I asked Riddell about it maybe a couple of months ago, he said upstream recommended against it.
[11:40] <Riddell> both of those things may be true :)
[11:41] <clivejo> Riddell: only maybe?
[11:42] <Riddell> the second one is, I know nothing about netrunner
[11:42] <clivejo> why do upstream recommend against it?
[11:45] <Riddell> because it messes up key bindings
[11:45] <Riddell> he gets lots of bug reports which are just caused by it being installed
[11:55] <clivejo> Riddell: would it not make sense to have it as part of plasma?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:55] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hey clivejo
[11:56] <Riddell> clivejo: no, poor martin hates it
[11:56] <Riddell> ask him yourself if you like
[11:58] <clivejo> mgraesslin: why do you hate the superkey (windows key)?
[12:06] <mgraesslin> clivejo: if you phrase it like that you can be sure that you won't get an answer. Be constructive!
[12:11] <clivejo> mgraesslin: taking into account many keyboards have a superkey and many users try to install ksuperkey in order to make use of this pesky wee button, surely it makes sense to be able to use it in plasma, without the use of 3rd party code which may/or may not cause unforeseen proplems with debugging etc
[12:11] <mgraesslin> clivejo: please stop. I'm now no longer in any mood to discuss that
[12:12] <clivejo> I can see many advantages of having such a feature and Im interested in hearing the disadvantages
[12:12] <mgraesslin> and I'm not interested in explaining them
[12:13] <clivejo> I feel that went well
[12:14] <Riddell> uh oh
[12:14] <Riddell> so aye, an emotive issue
[12:16] <clivejo> Iโm genuinely interested on hearing why not :/
[12:18] <clivejo> is it political, religious, have to rely on proprietary drivers or code?
[12:36] * clivejo goes to find something more constructive to do
[13:03] <sgclark> morning
[13:11] <jmux> Riddell: do you have any news from the guy, whose student wanted to write a KF5 backend for LibreOffice? I remember he wanted to come back after two weeks, but that was 4 weeks ago...
[13:12] <Riddell> jmux: nope, not heard anything
[13:13] <Riddell> it was Dani Gutiรฉrrez Porset and his student Iรฑigo Carrera
[13:14] <Riddell> jmux: I've e-mailed asking for an update
[13:15] <jmux> Riddell: thanks
[13:58] <sitter> sgclark valorie are you joining hangout?
[13:59] <sgclark> uhh just woke up.
[13:59] <sgclark> not fit for human consumption but sure without video
[14:09] <Riddell> jmux: the student replied! first time I've heard from him
[14:10] <Riddell> jmux: he asks for a meeting on monday, are you about?
[14:25] <jmux> Riddell: Sure depends on the time. CET 14:00+ I'll have time.
[14:28] <jmux> Where do we meet? #libreoffice-design again?
[14:54] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: https://www.kdevelop.org/frameworks/kdevelop-master-now-depends-kde-frameworks-5
[14:54] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark sitter ^
[14:54] <ovidiu-florin> that was a long time ago
[14:55] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/kdevelop.git/ < create kubuntu_unstable branch
[14:55] <sgclark> very aware, time.. is a factor here
[14:55] <shadeslayer> then adjust packaging
[14:55] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: then add to https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ci-tooling.git/tree/data/projects.json under kde-std
[14:55] <sgclark> thanks you two, great jb
[14:56] <sgclark> job
[14:56] <sitter> <3
[14:56] <shadeslayer> sgclark: hope that explains a bit of the CI :)
[14:56] <sitter> rather long winded rambling I feel :P
[14:56] <sitter> CIs are shit to talk about
[14:56] <shadeslayer> :D
[14:56] <shadeslayer> it was quite long
[14:56] <sgclark> I still have alot to learn lol.
[14:57] <ovidiu-florin> who has to create the branch?
[14:57] <shadeslayer> sitter: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/kconfig.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable
[14:57] <ovidiu-florin> or, who can?
[14:57] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: someone who has commit rights to the repos
[14:57] <shadeslayer> you can ask in #debian-qt-kde for access
[14:57] <sitter> shadeslayer: I think the problem is that -dev deps -bin while it should dep -bin-dev
[14:57] <ovidiu-florin> so that branch is needed in the upstream repo?
[14:57] <sitter> although foreign also helps :P
[14:57] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: on git.debian there needs to be a kubuntu_unstable branch
[14:57] <shadeslayer> ^^ :O
[14:58] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:58] <shadeslayer> though I guess yeah we can drop the -bin dependency
[14:59] <kfunk> you could also ship kdevelop-4.7.2 -- contains a nice bunch of bug fixes
[14:59] <shadeslayer> sitter: I'm having permission issues when cleaning workspaces
[14:59] <shadeslayer> ( build artifacts apparently have screwed up uid/gid ? )
[14:59] <sitter> shadeslayer: that's because some of the mobile scripts don't chown
[14:59] * sgclark pulls her hair out looking at her to-do list
[14:59] <sitter> or rather. that's because docker still doesn't have proper subuid support QQ
[15:00] <shadeslayer> sitter: ok, lets fix the chown'ing ?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> or well, how do we fix the chown'ing
[15:00] <sitter> just needs the exit handler from builder.rb copied all over the place
[15:00] <shadeslayer> xD
[15:00] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:00] <shadeslayer> sitter: btw you should install the project manager plugin
[15:00] <sitter> to resolve the existing problem you should simply root chown I guess
[15:00] <shadeslayer> for atom
[15:00] <sitter> shadeslayer: I think I had it, and I think I hated it
[15:00] <shadeslayer> why :O
[15:00] <sitter> can't recall
[15:01] <sitter> in fact, I'd be perfectly alright with kate if it supported ruby a bit better :P
[15:02] <shadeslayer> didn't kdevelop have a ruby plugin
[15:02] <kfunk> it does
[15:02] <sgclark> oh we have releases up as well. oh my
[15:02] <sgclark> hmm
[15:02] <sitter> now someone just needs to teach me how to kdevelop :P
[15:02] <kfunk> sitter: so, you know this apt-get thing?
[15:02] <sitter> kfunk: isn't it experimental?
[15:02] <kfunk> maybe you've heard of it
[15:02] <kfunk> :)
[15:02] <sitter> I totally think it was experimentally broken last I looked at it
[15:03] <shadeslayer> sitter: FileUtils.chown_R('jenkins', 'jenkins', @workspace_path, verbose: true) < that needs to be jenkins-slave ?
[15:03] <sitter> ruby support, not kdevelop that is :P kdevelop just has too many buttons for my puny mind XD
[15:03] <shadeslayer> does the container know about jenkins-slave?
[15:03] <sitter> shadeslayer: oh yes. that is probably why I didn't want them to use jenkins-slave :P
[15:04] <kfunk> sitter: it shouldn't be totally broken. at least the KDE4-branch
[15:04] <sitter> shadeslayer: what if a build runs on master? on master the user is called jenkins :P
[15:04] <shadeslayer> ok what then :P
[15:04] * kfunk didn't try for a long time
[15:04] <sitter> shadeslayer: dunno. needs figuring out
[15:04] <sitter> I am saying it's not straight forward because of name difference
[15:05] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:05] <shadeslayer> what uid are the slaves
[15:05] <shadeslayer> if the GID is the same on all slaves, then we can just set the GID
[15:06] <shadeslayer> as well as chown to jenkins
[15:06] <shadeslayer> or perhaps if the jenkins and jenkins slave UID's are the same ...
[15:06] <sitter> oh actually
[15:06] <sitter> shadeslayer: isn't the user jenkins inside the container no matter what?
[15:06] <shadeslayer> it is
[15:07] <shadeslayer> but we build as root
[15:07] <sitter> shadeslayer: yaeh but the containers have a user
[15:07] <sitter> that's why chef coerces a GID to begin wiht
[15:08] <sitter> https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/blob/master/deploy_in_container.rake#L88 && https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-kitchen/blob/master/site-cookbooks/jenkins-slave/recipes/default.rb#L22
[15:09] <shadeslayer> yes we do have jenkins inside docker
[15:09] <sitter> so on the slaves it is hardcoded to 100k and inside the docker it is also hardcoded to 100k
[15:09] <sitter> that's why the chown works to begin with
[15:09] <sitter> name doesn't matter anyway, the uid needs to be the same, which it is due to the hardcoding
[15:12] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:12] <shadeslayer> so just chown to jenkins then
[15:12] <shadeslayer> got it
[15:28] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: ps1 and vim and so forth https://powerline.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[15:40] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-166-g7755c65 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/UpdatesPage.qml
[15:40] <pursuivant> Use correct icon
[15:40] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/7755c65c67f9bdfa17e1e509e340b542a5418d63
[15:40] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-167-gca1ed9b * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/DummyBackend/DummyBackend.cpp
[15:40] <pursuivant> Report ratings as soon as we get them
[15:40] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/ca1ed9be6acf63d807021182c25e0a64e9780a23
[15:40] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-168-g5d86c61 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/ApplicationDescription.qml
[15:40] <pursuivant> Show the application rating
[15:40] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/5d86c610f63ee5e5c0de3508311d61b388880d58
[15:53] <pursuivant> muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.2-13-g456c5a0 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend/PKTransaction.cpp
[15:53] <pursuivant> Fix package resolution after un/installing
[15:53] <pursuivant> Thanks a lot to Elia Devito for the patch!
[15:53] <pursuivant> BUG: 354562
[15:53] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/456c5a03b5397f58a4915c40eca3e5ca7225f794
[15:53] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-172-g4d83be1 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend/PKTransaction.cpp
[15:53] <pursuivant> Merge branch 'Plasma/5.4'
[15:53] <pursuivant> # Conflicts:
[15:53] <pursuivant> #CMakeLists.txt
[15:53] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/4d83be1a3faa1672deb93d3a8731906cf27cdf2b
[16:08] <sgclark> oh good grief everything being tagged today it seems
[16:08] * sgclark drowns
[16:17] * mamarley throws sgclark the torpedo buoy.
[19:01] <marco-parillo> I subscribed to the trello board. I assume an admin would need to make me a member before I can comment on any cards. If so, could an admin add me?
[19:22] <sgclark> mparillo: added
[19:23] <sgclark> mparillo: to 16.04 . Seems I am not even a part of kubuntu team haha
[19:27] <soee> hiho
[19:27] <sgclark> hiyas
[19:51] <clivejo> sgclark: I dont really know how to use bzr :(
[19:52] <sgclark> it isn't a whole ton different from git
[19:52] <sgclark> hmm
[19:53] <clivejo> sgclark: I tried to move the calligra packaging to debian - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/calligra.git/
[19:54] <sgclark> clivejo: if you are interested in helping with kdevelop you can apt-get source it and then upload to your ppa and then I can grab and bzr it.
[19:54] <clivejo> but to be honest Im not sure if Im doing it right
[19:58] <clivejo> I can grab from bzr, just dont know how to push my changes back to it
[19:58] <soee> are there 5.4.3 tars already ?
[19:58] <clivejo> on depot yes
[20:01] <clivejo> soee: they are on depot, but not sure if QT is ready to build them
[20:01] <soee> clivejo: why ?
[20:02] <soee> it is just bugfix release so why QT can be not ready ?
[20:02] <clivejo> you mean for wily or xenial?
[20:02] <sgclark> clivejo: bzr push :parent
[20:02] <clivejo> sgclark: are you working on calligra?
[20:03] <sgclark> soee: I am fixing CI builds to prepare and then I will work in it
[20:03] <sgclark> clivejo: no, my plate is ffull, over full
[20:03] <soee> clivejo: wily, is there any point building it for xenial ?
[20:04] <soee> xenial will ship with 5.5 that is going to be releaed (beta) in 2/3 weeks
[20:04] <clivejo> would you be able to point me in the right direction?
[20:04] <soee> so imo. building it for xenial than for wily is wast of time :)
[20:04] <clivejo> I checked out bzr and moved it to debian git
[20:05] <sgclark> clivejo: for calligra? no not in the immediate future. it would be better to knock out stuff we can actually do fast right now and work on the beasts later
[20:05] <sgclark> soee: no it is not, that is the workflow
[20:06] <sgclark> development -> backports.
[20:06] <clivejo> I think I can manage calligra, just nned a bit of help with the bring it over to git part
[20:06] <soee> sgclark: yes but it will be replace in xenial soon with 5.5
[20:07] <sgclark> ok I have got to get back to work, not enough time in the world to get this all done
[20:09] <sgclark> clivejo: kubuntu_unstable branch is there, I don't understand what is wrong.
[20:10] <sgclark> soee: 5.5 what are you talking about? qt5? that has nothing to do with 5.4.3.
[20:11] <sgclark> also debian merges need to done, hmm
[20:12] <soee> sgclark: Plasma 5.4.3 will be released soon, than you said it first will be build for Xenial than Wily. What i'm thinking is that Plasma 5.5 beta is planed soon also (2/3 weeks ?) so it will replace 5.4.3 in Xenial anyway so what is the point building 5.4.3 for Xenial :)
[20:12] <sgclark> think I will wait and get with yofel to come up with a real plan.
[20:12] <sgclark> soee: ahh I see. yes that makes sense
[20:13] <sgclark> I can run it for wily then.
[20:24] <clivejo> do we still have access to weegie for QA?
[20:33] <ahoneybun> we should have a blog post like this: http://www.whizzy.org/2015/09/big-bug-bonanza-16-04-lts/
[20:41] <sgclark> clivejo: weegie?
[20:42] <clivejo> isnt that the name of the machine - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/ ?
[20:43] <sgclark> oh. Yes I suppose that is being taken away as well. So no, not that I am aware of.
[21:03] <mparillo> sgclark: Thank you for adding me
[23:10] <valorie> well, effing hell, I totally forgot the CI session
[23:10] <valorie> my apologies sitter, sgclark
[23:48] <sgclark> heh, I barely rolled out of bed in time, I suspect it was way early for your sleep schedule
[23:59] <santa_> yofel, sgclark, clivejo: now the automation-ng scripts are almost ready, I just need to add a couple of scripts to add/remove the ppa version suffix
[23:59] <santa_> https://gitlab.com/jmsantamaria-papers/kubuntu-automation-design/blob/master/kubuntu_automation_design.pdf
[23:59] <santa_> โ updated pdf with the design
[23:59] <sgclark> oooh, think it will be ready for a test run tomorrow santa_ ?
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[00:00] <AlvaroEduardo> Olรก serรก que alguรฉm pode me ajudar? Sou novรญssimo no Ubuntu ... e estou tentando baixar pacotes e ou novos programas... e nรฃo consigo...
[00:00] <AlvaroEduardo> Sai a seguinte frase... W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dis...-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80] W: Failed to fetch .
[00:00] <AlvaroEduardo> (serรก que alguรฉm leu algoยฟ) rsrs
[00:01] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: seu Ubuntu รฉ 14.10?
[00:02] <astroo-> ola e poe sempre a duvida
[00:02] <astroo-> bem-vindo
[00:03] <AlvaroEduardo> nรฃo... ele รฉ o 14.04
[00:04] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: chegou a fazer apt-get update?
[00:11] <AlvaroEduardo> Olรก desculpem, nรฃo me lembro quem estava conversando comigo!! Tive problemas por aki. Entรฃo... serรก que alguรฉm conseguiria dar uma opiniรฃo ou dica do que fazer.
[00:12] <AlvaroEduardo> Funciona a internet (navegador) poreรฉm para download nรฃo funciona nada.
[00:13] <astroo-> Geese_Howard
[00:13] <astroo-> AlvaroEduardo: chegou a fazer apt-get update?
[00:13] <AlvaroEduardo> sim, a mensagem de error continua a mesma.
[00:13] <AlvaroEduardo> W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/restricted/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80]
[00:14] <AlvaroEduardo> sรฃo vรกrias deste tipo.
[00:15] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: cara, utopic รฉ 14.10
[00:15] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: 14.10 estรก desativado
[00:17] <AlvaroEduardo> e o que eu faรงo entรฃo?
[00:18] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: primeiro vocรช precisa ter certeza se sua versรฃo instalada รฉ a 14.10 ou nรฃo
[00:18] <AlvaroEduardo> รฉ
[00:18] <AlvaroEduardo> a 14.10 mesmo.
[00:19] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: entรฃo, neste caso ou vocแบฝ atualiza para a 15.10 [nรฃo recomendo, pois tem suporte atรฉ julho de 2016] ou faz downgrade para a 14.04.3
[00:20] <AlvaroEduardo> ham... esse downgrade รฉ possรญvel pelo prรณprio linux? Ou tenho que fazer todo aparato feito quando passei do windows para linux.?
[00:25] <Guest312> Estou com um problema com wine โerr:secur32:SECUR32_initSchannelSP TLS library not found SSL connectionsโ. alguma dica?
[00:27] <AlvaroEduardo> Geese_howard รฉ possรญvel voltar a versรฃo do ubuntu pelo prรณprio linux?
[00:27] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: sim, mas nรฃo recomendo para iniciantes
[00:27] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: minha sugestรฃo รฉ reinstalar
[00:28] <AlvaroEduardo> ok muito obrigado, vou ter que abrir o windows kkk...
[00:29] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: pq abrir o windows?
[00:29] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: basta pegar o cd/dvd/pendrive, bootar e instalar sobre a instalaรงรฃo atual [fazendo o devido backup antes]
[00:31] <AlvaroEduardo> hum... mas vou precisar fazer aquele esquema de colocar no pendrive para bootar , (desculpe a ignorรขncia) mas acredito que precisarei daquele programa.
[00:33] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: pode ser feito no linux
[00:33] <Geese_Howard> AlvaroEduardo: pesquise no google a melhor maneira para vocรช fazer isso
[00:34] <AlvaroEduardo> ok
[00:34] <AlvaroEduardo> Mais uma vez agradeรงo.
[00:35] <Poca> AlvaroEduardo, dรก pra usar o unetbootin
[00:36] <AlvaroEduardo> sim sim , parece-me que tem um criador de discos bootaveis jรก instalado aki.
[00:36] <AlvaroEduardo> acredito que aquele funcione tb.
[02:31] <pogue> alguรฉm online?
[02:54] <Nightcrawler> aeee galera, boa noite
[02:54] <Nightcrawler> boa madrugada, dizendo melhor
[02:56] <Nightcrawler> ninguem aee
[02:56] <Nightcrawler> pra da um opi
[02:58] <astroo-> ola
[02:58] <astroo-> eu estou sempre
[02:58] <Nightcrawler> fala astroo
[02:59] <astroo-> diz se queres ajuda
[03:04] <Poca> astroo-, eai portuga
[03:05] <Poca> tรก tudo?
[03:06] <astroo-> ola tudo e tu?
[03:06] <Poca> tudo tambรฉm
[03:06] <Poca> haha
[03:07] <Poca> e o teu projeto, como vai?
[03:52] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[03:53] <picasso_> ciao
[03:53] <astroo-> ciao
[04:31] <A1V3S> oi
[04:35] <A1V3S> Oi alguem pode ajudar ? usuario novato ?
[10:53] <AndroUser> ::D
[11:11] <Proteu> Por favor..... alguem pode me dar uma ajuda?
[11:13] <AndroUser> Pergunte e aguarde
[11:13] <Proteu> POR FAVOR..... ALGUEM PODERIA ME DAR UMA AJUDA?
[11:13] <AndroUser> :-)
[11:15] <Proteu> ร o seguinte... uso um computador IBM Lenovo cm processador Intelยฎ Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz ร 2 e placa Intelยฎ 965Q x86/MMX/SSE2 de 32 bits
[11:15] <Proteu> Uso Ubuntu 15.10
[11:16] <Proteu> O problema รฉ o seguinte... nรฃo consigo ler arquivos PDF e nem as caixas de diรกlogo do Linux. As letras e palavras em ambos aparecem embaralhadas... como se estivessem borradas
[11:17] <Proteu> algumas imagens tambem aparecem borradas e atรฉ o grรกfico do googl earth fica chuviscado.
[11:17] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: qual sua placa de video?
[11:17] <Proteu> Mas consigo assistir videos normalmente
[11:17] <Proteu> placa Intelยฎ 965Q x86/MMX/SSE2 de 32 bits
[11:18] <Proteu> Meu computador รฉ um IBM Lenovo Thinkcentre
[11:20] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: logs?
[11:21] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: tente abrir um arquivo pdf via linha de comando
[11:21] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: verifique em /var/log/Xorg.0.log se tem algum erro
[11:21] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: pode ser seu antialiasing zoado
[11:21] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: nunc avi esse seu problema
[11:22] <Proteu> um momento
[11:24] <Proteu> olha o que deu no terminal: root@ervin-ThinkCentre-M55:/home/ervin# /var/log/Xorg.0.log bash: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: Permissรฃo negada
[11:25] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: root cara, root
[11:25] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: vocรช รฉ o dono do seu sistema
[11:26] <Proteu> fiz o root
[11:26] <Proteu> deu bash: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: Permissรฃo negada
[11:27] <faelz> Bom dia
[11:28] <Proteu> eai faelz... sabe o que pode ser meu problema?
[11:28] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: nรฃo รฉ um executรกvel champs
[11:28] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: รฉ um arquivo texto
[11:28] <Geese_Howard> Proteu: รฉ um log
[11:28] <rafael> Proteu: nรฃo sei. acabei de entrar no canal
[11:31] <Proteu> ร o seguinte... uso um computador IBM Lenovo cm processador Intelยฎ Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz ร 2 e placa Intelยฎ 965Q x86/MMX/SSE2 de 32 bits. Uso Ubuntu 15.10 O problema รฉ que nรฃo consigo ler arquivos PDF e nem as caixas de diรกlogo do Linux. As letras e palavras em ambos aparecem borradas . algumas imagens tambem aparecem borradas e atรฉ o grรกfico do googl earth fica chuviscado mas consigo assitir videos normalmente
[11:36] <Proteu> Pessoal... vou er que reiniciar mas ja volto
[11:39] <Proteu_> POR FAVOR
[11:39] <Proteu_> ALGUEM PODE ME DAR UMA AJUDA?
[11:40] <Proteu_> uso um computador IBM Lenovo cm processador Intelยฎ Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz ร 2 e placa Intelยฎ 965Q x86/MMX/SSE2 de 32 bits. Uso Ubuntu 15.10 O problema รฉ que nรฃo consigo ler arquivos PDF e nem as caixas de diรกlogo do Linux. As letras e palavras em ambos aparecem borradas . algumas imagens tambem aparecem borradas e atรฉ o grรกfico do googl earth fica chuviscado mas consigo assitir videos normalmente
[11:40] <Proteu_> uso um computador IBM Lenovo cm processador Intelยฎ Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz ร 2 e placa Intelยฎ 965Q x86/MMX/SSE2 de 32 bits. Uso Ubuntu 15.10 O problema รฉ que nรฃo consigo ler arquivos PDF e nem as caixas de diรกlogo do Linux. As letras e palavras em ambos aparecem borradas . algumas imagens tambem aparecem borradas e atรฉ o grรกfico do googl earth fica chuviscado mas consigo assitir videos normalmente
[11:45] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: leu os logs?
[11:47] <Proteu_> NO TERMINAL?
[11:47] <Geese_Howard> em qualquer lugar
[11:48] <Proteu_> como faรงo para abrir esse log?
[11:49] <rafael> Proteu_:
[11:49] <rafael> instalou o 14.04
[11:49] <rafael> ?
[11:52] <Geese_Howard> PeErLesS: nano, vi, more, cat, less no arquivo que te falei
[11:52] <Geese_Howard> ops
[11:52] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: nano, vi, more, cat, less no arquivo que te falei
[11:52] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: executou a abertura de pdf no console para ver se tem alguma mensagem de erro?
[11:52] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: tentou mais de um programa para abrir o pdf?
[11:53] <Proteu_> quando eu abro um arquivo pdf nao aparece nenhuma mensagem de erro.... o unico problema รฉ que as letras e palavras aparecem borradas
[11:54] <Proteu_> ja usei dois leitores para ler o pdf e permanece o problema
[11:54] <rafael> Proteu_: instala o ubuntu 14.04
[11:54] <Proteu_> 3 leitores na verdade
[12:00] <Proteu_> eu queria tentar resolver esse problema sem voltar para o 14.04
[12:00] <Proteu_> voltaria em ultimo caso
[12:00] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: jรก viu os logs para tentar saber a causa?
[12:04] <Proteu_> รฉ que nรฃo sei como acessar esse log
[12:04] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: procure no google: como acessar arquivos de log
[12:04] <Proteu_> eu vou la no Pesquisar?
[12:04] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: tudo o que tem em /var/log sรฃo arquivos textos
[12:04] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: logs do sistema
[12:04] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: vocรช deve, via terminal, utilizar um programa de visualizaรงรฃo de textos
[12:04] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: vi, nano que sรฃo editores
[12:05] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: ou more, cat, less para apenas ver
[12:05] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: faรงa um more Xorg.0.log, por exemplo
[12:05] <Proteu_> perai
[12:07] <Proteu_> apareceu Nov 5 09:06:16 ervin-ThinkCentre-M55 com.canonical.Unity.Scope.Home[1119]: message repeated 9 times: [ (unity-scope-home:2247): Json-CRITICAL **: json_object_get_object_member: assertion 'node != NULL' failed]
[12:08] <Proteu_> viu ai?
[12:08] <Proteu_> isso foi depois que eu abri um arquivo pdf
[12:09] <Proteu_> Nov 5 09:06:04 ervin-ThinkCentre-M55 gnome-session[1204]: (evince:2441): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_show: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[12:10] <Proteu_> Nov 5 09:06:04 ervin-ThinkCentre-M55 gnome-session[1204]: (evince:2441): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_show: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[12:10] <Proteu_> Nov 5 09:06:16 ervin-ThinkCentre-M55 com.canonical.Unity.Scope.Home[1119]: (unity-scope-home:2247): Json-CRITICAL **: json_object_get_object_member: assertion 'node != NULL' failed
[12:10] <Proteu_> isso foi o que apareceu depois que abri um arquivo PDF
[12:10] <Geese_Howard> รฉ, nada relacionado
[12:11] <Proteu_> mas como eu disse.... o problema nรฃo estรก sรณ em arquivos PDF.... algumas imagens aparecem borradas... as caixas de dialogo do Linux aparecem com letras e palavras borradas... mas posso assistir videos nrmalmente
[12:12] <Proteu_> As palavras em qualquer browser que uso nao aparecem borradas
[12:13] <Proteu_> qualquer browser funciona normalmente
[12:13] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: pode ser fonte
[12:13] <Proteu_> serรก que nao seria um problema de renderizaรงรฃo?
[12:13] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: procure adicionar novas fontes
[12:13] <Geese_Howard> Proteu_: pode
[12:13] <Proteu_> ja mudei a fonte
[12:13] <Proteu_> permanece
[12:24] <rafael> Proteu_: vc nรฃo prefere instalar o Ubuntu 14.04
[12:25] <prdaniel> Bom dia!
[12:25] <rafael> Bom dia
[12:25] <prdaniel> instalei recentemente o ubuntu 14.10, mas nรฃo consigo traduzi-lo para pt... ja tentei varios comandos orientados em uma das tutos e nada
[12:26] <prdaniel> Rafael, vocรช poderia me ajudar?
[12:26] <rafael> prdaniel: jรก foi nas configuraรงรตes do sistema?
[12:26] <prdaniel> sim... ali nรฃo fica liberado o pt apenas o en
[12:27] <rafael> vai no painel de controle
[12:27] <prdaniel> em "formatos regionais" estรก portuguรชs...
[12:28] <rafael> vai na guia oonde tem instalar remover idiomas
[12:28] <prdaniel> ok
[12:29] <rafael> e lรก vc instala o idioma que precisa
[12:29] <Geese_Howard> prdaniel: versรฃo morta, downgrade para 14.04 ou update para 15.10
[12:29] <Geese_Howard> sugiro downgrade
[12:30] <prdaniel> ok Geese_Howard, como faรงo o downgrade?
[12:34] <Guzz> Preciso particionar um disco UEFI/GPT para instalaรงรฃo do Ubuntu single boot, alguรฉ sabe como particiono o HD?
[12:35] <rafael> coloca uma pequena parte para gpt
[12:45] <Proteu_> eu baixei o iso do ubuntu 14.04... pra fazer o downgrade รฉ sรณ abrir ele no computador mesmo?
[12:48] <Proteu_> eu baixei o iso do ubuntu 14.04... pra fazer o downgrade รฉ sรณ abrir ele no computador mesmo?
[12:49] <Elfon> Proteu_: downgrade nรฃo dรก nรฃo
[12:50] <Proteu_> esse mesmo arquivo iso eu gravo num cd e instalo pelo cd entรฃo?
[12:50] <Proteu_> qual a maneira mais facil?
[12:50] <Proteu_> pra fazer downgrade?
[12:59] <hggdh> Proteu_: nova instalaรงรฃo. Salve teus dados primeiro.
[13:02] <Elfon> Proteu_: se vc tem a home em uma partiรงรฃo separada รฉ bem mais tranquilo
[13:07] <Proteu_> baixei o arquivo iso do 14.04. como faรงo a instalaรงรฃo? qual a maneira mais facil?
[13:09] <Proteu_> Merlim
[13:17] <Proteu_> vcs usam antivirus no Ubuntu?
[13:19] <eloi_carneiro> Proteu_, nรฃo
[13:19] <eloi_carneiro> Proteu_, sรณ uso quando tenho servidor de arquivos
[13:20] <eloi_carneiro> Proteu_, exemplo um servidor samba, para os usuรกrios da rede salvarem os seus arquivos
[13:20] <eloi_carneiro> Proteu_, dai para ajudar a proteger os usuรกrios windows, se coloca um antivirus no servidor
[13:32] <PauloBrEs> bom dia
[13:33] <PauloBrEs> fiz um procedimento aqui que me passaram e meu dispositivo sem fio sumiu na configuraรงรฃo
[15:40] <Castrilla> A final mente um canal com pessoas
[15:40] <Castrilla> Bo tarde
[15:41] <Castrilla> Alquem online agora
[15:41] <Castrilla> Ola
[15:41] <Castrilla> ?
[15:46] <shallwe> voltando, boa tarde
[15:46] <Castrilla> tarde
[15:56] <shallwe> Castrilla, sem problemas
[15:56] <Castrilla> OK obrigado novamente
[15:57] <Castrilla> Auquem aqui entende de zabbix?
[15:59] <shallwe> eu sรณ sei que a sombra que o unity ta fazendo no meu ubuntu ta muuuito feita
[16:04] <Castrilla> Ubuntu
[16:04] <Castrilla> Eu uso o Minti ma usei por mito tempo o slacware
[16:06] <shallwe> Castrilla, a sim o linux mint รฉ legal, tem o cinnamon e o mate
[16:07] <Castrilla> Eu uso mint cinnamon
[16:08] <shallwe> cinnamon nรฃo sei se รฉ gnome mas deve ser, รฉ tudo fork do gnome 2
[16:09] <Castrilla> Sim
[16:09] <Castrilla> Camarada vc manja zabbix?
[16:10] <shallwe> Castrilla, nem sei oq รฉ kkk
[16:10] <Castrilla> http://www.zabbix.com e uma feramenta de monitoramento
[16:13] <Mangusto> Castrilla, Vรก direto ao assunto
[16:25] <rafael> Castrilla: o que tem o zabbix?
[16:33] <Castrilla> rafael: to estudando
[16:33] <Castrilla> rafael: quero parender para poder oferecer para minha empresa
[16:34] <Castrilla> rafael: eu instalei no meu raspberry pi e funciona direitinho
[17:06] <shallwe> Castrilla, vc tem raspberry pi 1 ou o 2?
[17:10] <shallwe> galera olha como fica a sombra do unity comigo http://postimg.org/image/az8gq3ymh/
[17:10] <shallwe> com vocรชs fica assim igual? meio feia e grande?
[17:13] <rafael> Castrilla: dependendo do numero de hosts que vc quer monitorar, pode precisar hardware melhor
[17:17] <hggdh> shallwe: o meu fica da mesma forma. Mas nรฃo me incomoda...
[17:17] <shallwe> hggdh, a ta blz, valeu, era sรณ dรบvida mesmo, pensei que poderia ser um bug da ati
[17:18] <shallwe> atรฉ pq o que fica atrรกs da sombra nรฃo importa, jรก que estou olhando a janela ativa :)
[17:18] <hggdh> heh
[17:28] <Castrilla> shallwe: 2 b
[17:29] <shallwe> Castrilla, a bom, ele รฉ mais rรกpido
[17:29] <shallwe> tem atรฉ um ubuntu pra ele
[17:29] <Castrilla> shallwe: no raspberry pi?
[17:29] <shallwe> sim
[17:29] <shallwe> o 14.04
[17:30] <Castrilla> Nรฃo vi
[17:30] <shallwe> em arm
[17:30] <shallwe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[17:30] <Castrilla> eu usava o raspibima mas e lento e mais
[17:30] <Castrilla> ai coloquei o opemelec e uso ele plugado na minha tv
[17:30] <shallwe> รฉ na realidade falta otimizaรงรฃo do sistema pra rodar em processadores arm
[17:31] <shallwe> mas ele รฉ bem poderoso o raspberry pi, roda atรฉ emuladores mais pesados
[17:31] <shallwe> sรณ nรฃo sei se este ubuntu tem o unity junto
[17:31] <Castrilla> Sim eu fiz um monte de testes nele eu tenho ate zabbix rodando nele
[17:32] <Castrilla> eles tiram um monte de coisa para poder rodar direito
[17:32] <shallwe> Castrilla, pois รฉ estou vendo um video agora do ubuntu 14.04 no raspberrypi 2 rodando
[17:33] <Castrilla> Trava muito
[17:33] <shallwe> รฉ diferente, de um sistema como por exemplo android montado em cima de um processador arm desde o comeรงo e de um sistema inteiro alterado pra rodar em arm
[17:35] <Castrilla> vixi eu coloquei android nele e trava mais que sistemas linux
[17:35] <shallwe> Castrilla, android nรฃo rola nele
[17:36] <shallwe> mas acho que de linux distribuiรงรตes o ubuntu estรก jรก a um bom tempo desenvolvendo o sistema pra celular, รฉ algo parecido
[17:36] <CyL> Mas android nรฃo รฉ linux?
[17:36] <shallwe> CyL, mas depende do processador
[17:36] <shallwe> ele nรฃo รฉ bem compatรญvel com o processador do raspberry pi
[17:36] <CyL> shallwe: Android roda em ARM e x86
[17:37] <shallwe> CyL, sim :) eu jรก testei uma vez no pc antigo
[17:37] <CyL> shallwe: O RPiยดtem um processador ARM
[17:37] <shallwe> eu estou esperando mais um tempo, estou curioso como irรก ficar ubuntu nos tablets e telefones
[17:37] <shallwe> pra eu comprar 1 :)
[17:38] <shallwe> CyL, tem
[17:38] <MerliM> shallwe, so desativar efeitos visual pelo menos comigo funciona
[17:38] <MerliM> e o editor do tema no tweak-tools permite reduzi
[17:38] <MerliM> ou remover
[17:38] <shallwe> MerliM, estamos falando de ....
[17:38] <MerliM> da imagem que postou
[17:39] <MerliM> รฉ a sombra ou imaginei errado
[17:39] <MerliM> desculpa cheguei do mercado agora e li
[17:39] <shallwe> a ta pensei que era de ubuntu no raspebrry pi kkk
[17:39] <shallwe> MerliM, boa dica o twaek-tools, eu acho que atรฉ tenho ele aqui
[17:39] <shallwe> a mas nรฃo quero desativar, prefiro ficar com a sombra
[17:40] <shallwe> tenho que pelo menos usar a minha placa de vรญdeo pra alguma coisa kkk, jรก que nรฃo jogo muito
[17:40] <CyL> shallwe: o android รฉ um sistema linux como qualquer outro
[17:40] <shallwe> deixar 2gb de ram da placa de vรญdeo parada pra nada รฉ fogo, tem que usar
[17:41] <Castrilla> shallwe: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/android-4-0-is-coming/
[17:41] <shallwe> sรณ sei que quando a gente for xingado por off topic eu vou me defender falando que eu estava comentandod e ubuntu no raspberry pi 2 :)
[17:42] <MerliM> usa ela pra programar, mais util que efeitos visuais
[17:42] <MerliM> ahuaua minerar litecoin
[17:42] <MerliM> ^^
[17:42] <MerliM> ainda mais que รฉ ATI sรฃo as tops pra isso
[17:42] <shallwe> MerliM, a sim jรก notei que programador costa de coisas simples sem distraรงรตes
[17:42] <MerliM> shallwe, nao sou programmer
[17:43] <shallwe> minerar litecoin wtf is it?
[17:43] <shallwe> algum jogo?
[17:43] <MerliM> bitcoin - o ouro das moedas virtuais
[17:43] <MerliM> litecoin - seria a prata
[17:43] <Castrilla> shallwe: https://www.squirrelhosting.co.uk/hosting-blog/hosting-blog-info.php?id=22
[17:43] <MerliM> ainda รฉ possivel minerar pelos meros mortais
[17:44] <shallwe> MerliM, vixi to fora isso parece aqueles sistemas que a nasa te mandava um link pra vc ficar processando por eles kkk
[17:44] <shallwe> gastar minha energia por nada
[17:44] <shallwe> luz ta cara!
[17:45] <MerliM> shallwe, ta fazendo o que de produtivo agoraa ahauahaa
[17:46] <shallwe> Castrilla, jรก tinha visto algo assim desse link, mas eram antigos
[17:46] <shallwe> lentos
[17:46] <Castrilla> shallwe: colo9ca lento nisso
[17:47] <Castrilla> shallwe: mas funciona
[17:47] <shallwe> MerliM, sรณ trabalhando de boa enquanto a chuva vai la fora e faz 17 graus nessa cidade :)
[17:47] <Castrilla> shallwe: como arumo o taime zone do zabbics? consequi fazer ele funcionar
[17:48] <shallwe> Castrilla, cara nรฃo sei o que รฉ zabbics, acho que vocรช estava falando com outra pessoa nรฃo eu
[17:48] <shallwe> sobre isso
[17:48] <Castrilla> shallwe: pode crer desculpa ai foi mau
[17:48] <shallwe> :) tranquilo
[17:49] <MerliM> shallwe, lol aqui 36 quenteeeeeeeeeeee
[17:49] <Castrilla> shallwe: e a pressa
[17:50] <shallwe> MerliM, moro no sul
[17:50] <MerliM> eu nuuu norte kkk
[17:50] <MerliM> nordeste alias
[17:51] <shallwe> รฉ ai รฉ quente
[17:54] <MerliM> Castrilla, massa esse link da pra fazer easy no Linux
[17:54] <MerliM> :D
[17:54] <MerliM> quente รฉ o inferno aqui รฉ o SOL
[17:54] <MerliM> auahaua
[18:08] <MerliM> lavar carroS ganhar o real pra fritar um pedrinhaaa mais tarde aauauahuha
[18:12] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[18:12] <shallwe> boa tarde
[18:12] <Castrilla> tarde
[18:13] <elisboa> tarde!
[18:13] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem ?
[18:14] <elisboa> td bem, mirqui
[18:14] <elisboa> e vc?
[18:14] <mirqui> aqui vamos todos bem graรงas a deus :)
[18:14] <mirqui> quais sรฃo as novas ?
[18:15] <MerliM> mirqui, boa tarde :)
[18:15] <mirqui> fala merlim :)
[18:15] <shallwe> a nรฃo deixa o teu deus fora disso eu to bem pq eu me cuido :)
[18:16] <mirqui> deus , xiva , vento , terra ar , etc ,
[18:16] <mirqui> se ewstรก bem , isso que serve ;)
[18:17] <CyL> shallwe: vc tava tรฃo preocupado com o offtopic quando a gente tava conversando sobre android...
[18:17] <mirqui> o nome nรฃo importa;)
[18:17] <shallwe> CyL, kkk foi apenas 1 linha de comentรกrio :)
[18:18] <elisboa> shallwe: relaxa
[18:18] <elisboa> ele sรณ usou uma expressรฃo comum
[18:18] <elisboa> mirqui: aqui estou meio corrido no trabalho montando um servidor
[18:19] <mirqui> humm , normal
[18:19] <shallwe> eu sรณ sei que semana que vem comeรงa a transmissรฃo das palestras
[18:19] <shallwe> quero ver arrumar tempo pra ver tudo kkk
[18:19] <Castrilla> shallwe: palestras?
[18:20] <mirqui> palestras sobre o que ?
[18:20] <Castrilla> shallwe: de algum curso que vc ta fazendo/
[18:20] <shallwe> como assim http://www.semanadolinux.com.br/
[18:20] <shallwe> aqui gente vcs estรฃo doidos kk
[18:20] <shallwe> maior evento do ano
[18:20] <shallwe> jรก tem mais de 5mil, quero ver se nรฃo vai engasgar a transmissรฃo
[18:21] <mirqui> vai estar no youtube ?
[18:21] <shallwe> jรก tem atรฉ a programaรงรฃo, bem interessante
[18:21] <shallwe> mirqui, deve ser algo assim, acredito eu
[18:22] <mirqui> haa , entรฃo da para ver de manhรฃ\tarde ou noite
[18:22] <shallwe> Castrilla, tem atรฉ uma palestra falando do raspberry pi
[18:23] <Castrilla> shallwe: cara eu vi de zabbix to interesado ja me inscrevendo
[18:24] <Castrilla> shallwe: e tudo via hangouts ou via web?
[18:30] <mirqui> as palestras vรฃo ser on line e gratuรญtas , hangouts , etc
[18:30] <mirqui> acho que vรฃo estar no youtube sim
[18:31] <Castrilla> Ta me parecendo meio mutretado esse negocio tem lugar que dis que o dinehiro arecadado... nรฃo era de gratis?
[18:31] <Castrilla> https://www.twitter.com/semanadolinux
[18:32] <mirqui> Perguntas e Respostas
[18:32] <mirqui> Poderei assistir a todas as palestras da SEMANA DO LINUX gratuitamente?
[18:32] <mirqui> Sim, todas as palestras serรฃo transmitidas de acordo com a programaรงรฃo do evento de forma GRATUITA e ONLINE entres os dias 9 e 14 de novembro de 2015.
[18:32] <mirqui> - See more at: http://www.semanadolinux.com.br/#sthash.5plSEp3A.dpuf
[18:32] <mirqui> pelo que vejo estรกtudo free
[18:32] <Castrilla> Sim asim รฉ parece que รฉ frrela
[18:33] <Castrilla> Caramba ainda bem que o shallwe comentou cenรฃo iamos perder
[18:34] <Ferrhcp> Boa Tarde
[18:34] <mirqui> blza :)
[18:35] <Castrilla> firmรฃo
[18:37] <mirqui> boa sorte a todos , fui :)
[18:48] <shallwe> tem atรฉ falando de fedora lรก, quero saber pq nรฃo tem nada sobre ubuntu !!!
[18:49] <Castrilla> shallwe: porque ubuntu e usado em residencias e nรฃo em empresa amenos que seja desctop de usuario
[18:54] <Edelmo> Segue mais ou menos a linha do FISL, onde temos sim algumas palestras sobre OS, mas o foco mesmo รฉ aplicaรงรตes, utilizaรงรฃo de hardware limitado (raspberry pi, arduino, etc).
[18:55] <MerliM> Castrilla, as palestras $$$???
[18:58] <Castrilla> MerliM: Free
[18:58] <rafael> Castrilla: ubuntu รฉ utilizado em empresas
[18:58] <MerliM> lkinkk รฉ online ou presencaooo
[18:59] <MerliM> rafael, o TCE-MA usa somente Libreoffice em suas maquinas
[18:59] <MerliM> estao tentando a migracao tambรฉm para GNU/Linux Ubuntu porรฉm รฉ todo um processo
[18:59] <rafael> MerliM: รฉ como eu sempre digo
[19:00] <rafael> nรฃo hรก o melhor, mas aquele que atende as necessidades de cada um
[19:00] <MerliM> rafael, porem o libreoffice nao teve treinamento nao foi na brute force mesmooo
[19:01] <rafael> MerliM: existem algumas coisas que sรณ se resolve na base da forรงa
[19:01] <MerliM> e acho correto concurso pede solucoes para questoes usando esses softwares, porem os orgaos nao usam, quem quer manter seu emprego que se atualize
[19:01] <MerliM> e procure estudar a tecnologia que a empresa faz uso
[19:01] <MerliM> rafael, principalmente aqui no Brasil
[19:02] <rafael> o triste รฉ ver que o BR tenha tanta gente boa enfurnada em orgรฃos publicos
[19:03] <rafael> usar linux รฉ comum apenas para quem gosta de TI
[19:03] <MerliM> rafael, fatoo
[19:03] <MerliM> saindo aqui
[19:03] <MerliM> falows
[21:28] <PauloBrEs> boa noiyr
[21:28] <PauloBrEs> noite
[21:30] <PauloBrEs> alguem?
[21:31] <Geese_Howard> somebody
[21:33] <PauloBrEs> alguem pode me ajudar?
[21:33] <asdf999> pode fala mano
[21:34] <PauloBrEs> quando fui instalar o virtualbox 5.0.8 apareceu esta mensagem na central de programas
[21:35] <PauloBrEs> "quebra o pacote existente virtualbox conflito
[21:36] <asdf999> entra no terminal e digite isso : sudo apt-get -f install
[21:36] <PauloBrEs> baixei direto do site e uso o ubuntu 15.10
[21:36] <PauloBrEs> vou fazer
[21:37] <asdf999> talvez seja falta de alguma biblioteca, com esse comando deve resolver o problema
[21:37] <PauloBrEs> fala assim: foram instalados automaticamente e ja nao sao necessario
[21:38] <asdf999> hum
[21:38] <asdf999> entรฃo nรฃo faรงa nada
[21:38] <asdf999> tenta executar o virtualbox via terminal
[21:39] <PauloBrEs> eu nao instalei ainda
[21:39] <asdf999> tenta instalar via repositorio do ubuntu mesmo
[21:39] <asdf999> รฉ mais seguro
[21:40] <PauloBrEs> qual repositorio?
[21:40] <asdf999> no terminal : sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[21:40] <asdf999> e sรณ isso
[21:46] <asdf999> PauloBrEs, tรก instalando ainda ou deu algum erro ?
[21:49] <PauloBrEs> nao ta dando
[21:50] <asdf999> qual รฉ o erro agora ?
[21:50] <PauloBrEs> fala que esta instalado mas nao ta
[21:50] <asdf999> hum
[21:51] <asdf999> foi via terminal mesmo ?
[21:51] <PauloBrEs> sim
[21:52] <PauloBrEs> ai fiz um comando que esta instalando a verรงรฃo 5.04
[21:52] <PauloBrEs> mas nao รฉ a mais nova
[21:52] <asdf999> para instalar a 5.04 tem que ser via dpkg
[21:53] <asdf999> sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-XXX.deb
[21:54] <PauloBrEs> vou tentar
[21:56] <PauloBrEs> deu erro
[21:56] <asdf999> o virtualbox-XXX.deb deve estar ja baixado em seu hd
[21:56] <asdf999> qual o erro ?
[21:56] <PauloBrEs> pera ai
[21:59] <PauloBrEs> eu tenho que esta no diretorio onde eu baixei nรฉ ?
[21:59] <asdf999> isso mesmo
[22:00] <PauloBrEs> quer acessar virtual aquiw
[22:00] <PauloBrEs> ?
[22:01] <asdf999> como assim ?
[22:02] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:03] <PauloBrEs> vc acessar meu pc
[22:03] <asdf999> estou sem internet boa aqui no momento para usar o teamviewr, sem chances
[22:04] <asdf999> tente executar no terminal: sudo apt-get update
[22:04] <asdf999> logo depois execute: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[22:04] <PauloBrEs> fala que ja tem uma nova versao
[22:05] <asdf999> mas รฉ instalado alguma coisa ae ?
[22:05] <asdf999> com esses comando ?
[22:06] <PauloBrEs> instalando o 5.04
[22:06] <asdf999> beleza
[22:06] <asdf999> via terminal ?
[22:07] <PauloBrEs> nao
[22:07] <PauloBrEs> central de programa
[22:07] <asdf999> hum
[22:07] <asdf999> beleza
[22:07] <PauloBrEs> vou reiniciar o note
[22:24] <GesrobDR> buenas srs.
[22:25] <astroo-> ola
[22:49] <shallwe> aee galera, alguรฉm sabe ou lembra o nome do plugin do unity que faz com que todos os apps abertos apareรงam na tela?
[22:49] <astroo-> ola
[22:50] <shallwe> tipo o do gnome, que vc aponta o mouse la no canto superior esquerdo e os apps vem menores abertos pra eu ver que tem
[22:50] <shallwe> astroo-, olรก
[22:50] <shallwe> sรณ nรฃo vale me falar dos 15 minutos :)
[22:51] <astroo-> ok
[22:51] <shallwe> :)
[22:51] <GesrobDR> nรฃo entendi
[22:51] <shallwe> GesrobDR, o que eu disse?
[22:51] <GesrobDR> sim
[22:51] <GesrobDR> todos os apps na tela
[22:51] <shallwe> GesrobDR, รฉ nรฃo consegui me expressar bem, calma ai vou ver se acho uma foto
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[22:52] <shallwe> putz
[22:52] <shallwe> maledeto link de fotos do google kkk foi mal
[22:53] <GesrobDR> qual o link?
[22:53] <GesrobDR> qual a palavra chave no google
[22:53] <shallwe> GesrobDR, calma
[22:53] <shallwe> http://brandon.invergo.net/img/posts/gnome_shell_web_overview.png
[22:53] <shallwe> achei
[22:53] <shallwe> isso รฉ do gnome 3
[22:53] <shallwe> sei que tem um plugin no unity que faz a mesma cosia
[22:54] <shallwe> aparecem todas os apps abertos em miniatura
[22:54] <shallwe> GesrobDR, acheeeei
[22:54] <shallwe> Super + W :)
[22:55] <GesrobDR> :) moleza
[22:55] <shallwe> kkk รฉ eu procurei por "unity mouse corner left upper"
[22:55] <shallwe> e deu certo kkk
[22:56] <GesrobDR> Segura o Super tem outros atalhos
[22:57] <shallwe> GesrobDR, pois รฉ estava escrito lรก, mas quando olhei primeiro nรฃo me dei conta que era esse
[22:57] <shallwe> mas valeu
[22:59] <shallwe> ou entรฃo o Super + botรฃo do meio do mouse pra dimensionar as janelas รฉ boa tb
[23:10] <hggdh> normalmente o Super mais quaisquer dos botรตes do pad numรฉrico movem a janela (canto superior direito, esquerdo, 1/2 ร esquerda/direita, full window)
[23:11] <GesrobDR> seria legal no notebook, mas o meu nao tem numpad
[23:11] <GesrobDR> sรณ se config qwe asd zxc
[23:12] <shallwe> mas com o Super W jรก to feliz
[23:13] <shallwe> รฉ mais perfumaria atรฉ porque tudo aberta estรก na barra do lado :)
[23:13] <GesrobDR> eu queria uma forma de evitar que os รญcones no launcher ficassem amassados
[23:14] <shallwe> GesrobDR, amassados? como assim?
[23:14] <GesrobDR> Eles ficam no canto esquerdo comprimidos
[23:14] <GesrobDR> Sรณ estende quando eu passo o mouse por cima
[23:14] <shallwe> a ta quando tem muito รญcone nรฉ?
[23:15] <GesrobDR> ร
[23:15] <shallwe> e qual tamanho que vocรช usa deles?
[23:15] <shallwe> eu uso 34
[23:15] <hggdh> System settings/Appearance/Behaviour
[23:15] <GesrobDR> padrรฃo 48
[23:16] <shallwe> GesrobDR, credo muda isso
[23:16] <shallwe> tamanho gigante pra q?
[23:16] <GesrobDR> shallwe, pra nรฃo mirar muito rsrs
[23:17] <shallwe> GesrobDR, kkk bom cada um cada um
[23:17] <GesrobDR> hggdh, nรฃo vi opรงรตes sobre isso lรก
[23:17] <hggdh> GesrobDR: eu nรฃo entendi. Estรกs a usar รญcones grandes -- e como resultado, nรฃo cabem todos na tela. Entรฃo reclamas?
[23:18] <hggdh> eu bem ao mar, ou bem ร terra...
[23:18] <GesrobDR> hggdh, podia sรณ correr a barra pra cima ou pra baixo
[23:18] <GesrobDR> ou os que sรฃo utilizados subir
[23:18] <hggdh> mas nรฃo corre. Por design.
[23:19] <hggdh> podes reposicionar os รญcones. Click & drag.
[23:19] <GesrobDR> hggdh, tudo devia ser customizรกvel. Pena que eu nรฃo sei como mudar isso.
[23:19] <shallwe> GesrobDR, tudo nรฃo nรฉ, ai nรฃo teria padrรฃo o ubuntu
[23:20] <GesrobDR> shallwe, pode entregar num padrรฃo e daรญ em diante o usuรกrio faz o que quiser.
[23:20] <shallwe> GesrobDR, a bom, mas acho que atรฉ dรก, tudo รฉ possรญvel
[23:21] <GesrobDR> ou eu escondo o launcher e uso o docky
[23:21] <shallwe> docky tb รฉ legal
[23:21] <shallwe> mas cara vc deve ter muita coisa nessa tua barra kkk ou sua tela รฉ de 10 polegadas
[23:22] <GesrobDR> 14
[23:22] <GesrobDR> no hdmi fica melhor, 32'
[23:22] <hggdh> GesrobDR: nรฃo รฉ customizรกvel. Nรฃo serรก customizavel. ร o que รฉ, com os controles que existem. Quem sabe, no futuro, isto possa ser revisto
[23:23] <hggdh> mas, atรฉ onde eu saiba, nรฃo existe nenhuma proposta para mudar este aspecto
[23:23] <hggdh> รฉ claro, o cรณdigo fonte estรก disponรญvel.
[23:24] <GesrobDR> jรก vi reclamaรงรฃo num forum
[23:24] <hggdh> e?
[23:24] <shallwe> reclamaรงรฃo do que?
[23:25] <GesrobDR> desse comportamento do unity
[23:25] <shallwe> kkk nem comento
[23:25] <GesrobDR> outra coisa que alguns nรฃo concordavam era o padrรฃo da menu bar na janela ou na barra superior, vem na superior padrรฃo
[23:25] <shallwe> software super estรกvel tudo certinho e tem pessoas que ainda exigem coisas kkk nunca vou intender isso
[23:26] <shallwe> GesrobDR, menu global nรฉ?
[23:26] <GesrobDR> รฉ
[23:26] <shallwe> global menu como chamam
[23:26] <shallwe> isso รฉ a melhor coisa que jรก inventaram :) pra quem tem tela pequena entรฃo
[23:26] <shallwe> GesrobDR, mas o ubuntu tem uma opรงรฃo que vocรช pode colocar o menu na barra dos apps direto no lugar do tรญtulo
[23:27] <GesrobDR> eu sei. Acho รณtimo que se possa escolher. Tanto um quanto outro.
[23:27] <shallwe> com o compiz config vc faz isso, escolhe entre colocar no topo ou na prรณpria barra do app, isso jรก resovleram :)
[23:27] <shallwe> pois รฉ tem estas opรงรตes isto รฉ bom
[23:27] <shallwe> eu prefiro em cima bem melhor
[23:29] <GesrobDR> hggdh, e o que acham รฉ que as vezes decidem que vai ser sรณ de um jeito e pronto.
[23:30] <shallwe> GesrobDR, mas isso รฉ discutido e muito nรฃo รฉ 1 pessoa que toma essa decisรฃo
[23:30] <hggdh> bem, alguรฉm tem que tomar uma decisรฃo. Ainda mais, mais opรงรตes significa mais cรณdigo -> mais erros -> mais usuรกrios insatisfeitos.
[23:31] <hggdh> melhor ter certeza que o ambiente bรกsico รฉ estรกvel, antes de colocar mais rococรณs
[23:31] <shallwe> hggdh, รฉ o caso do kde kkk, รฉ um release atrรกs do outro
[23:31] <shallwe> a porqueira nunca ta 100%
[23:32] <hggdh> mas estรก a melhorar a cada release
[23:32] <shallwe> o unity tem o mesmo padrรฃo jรก a anos, e isso ajuda, sรณ modificando o cรณdigo interno e ajustando as coisas, mudanรงas poucas
[23:32] <shallwe> hggdh, assim espero, o plasma agora finalmente ficou bom
[23:33] <shallwe> corrigindo, mudanรงas no layout eu digo
[23:33] <GesrobDR> todo soft muda, isso seria sรณ mais uma mudanรงa marginal
[23:33] <GesrobDR> quando tiver massa crรญtica pra provocar essa mudanรงa blz
[23:33] <hggdh> acho qu sim. Mas, toda vez que vou ao plasma, nรฃo aguento mais que meia-hora. Faz-me falta o ambiente limpo do Unity.
[23:34] <GesrobDR> por enquanto...sรณ esperar
[23:35] <shallwe> eu testo outras distros, uso jรก testei vรกrias, mas sempre volto pro ubuntu, parece coca cola isso aqui
[23:35] <shallwe> nรฃo รฉ a toa que tudo comeรงa com ubuntu, steam foi no ubuntu, o unity3d pra criar games tb, beta no ubuntu
[23:35] <shallwe> e assim vai
[23:38] <shallwe> ta bom vcs venceram, vou atรฉ instalar de novo ubuntu no note kkk
[23:38] <hggdh> heh
[23:38] <shallwe> estava com o kubuntu 15.10, mas realmente usando ubuntu no pc e quando vou pro note รฉ uma diferenรงa grande, esse plasma parece que vai rasgar, nรฃo sei pq parece papel
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[13:11] <nikolam> Cuvajte se ubacenih "feminista" http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/11/04/feminists-are-trying-to-frame-linus-torvalds-for-sexual-assault-claims-open-source-industry-veteran/
[13:14] <nikolam> โTry to avoid even being alone, ever, because there is a chance that a โwomen in techโ advocacy group is going to try to collect your scalp.โ
[13:36] <nikolam> https://github.com/rosarior/Code-of-Merit
[18:47] <unuk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCFq4jAysFg
[19:47] <gavran> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF6L3cIQyWo
[20:51] <nikolam> hihi padobranci
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[01:31] <ahoneybun> hey nhaines
[06:22] <Kilos> morning everyone
[06:41] <svij> morning :)
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[06:00] <didrocks> good morning
[06:49] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:49] <didrocks> re seb128
[06:50] <seb128> re didrocks ;-)
[07:01] <hikiko-lpt> hello all
[07:03] <didrocks> hey hikiko
[07:05] <hikiko> hi didrocks seb128
[07:05] <seb128> hey hikiko
[08:02] <Trevinho> morning
[08:02] <didrocks> good morning Trevinho!
[08:02] <Trevinho> heyd didrocks
[08:02] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[08:03] <seb128> Trevinho, still holding to the waking up early it seems :-)
[08:03] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah... Up since almost 2 hrs -_-
[08:03] <Trevinho> And it's not a good thing
[08:05] <seb128> :-(
[08:51] <TheMuso> Hey willcooke.
[08:51] <willcooke> g'monin
[08:52] <didrocks> morning TheMuso, willcooke!
[08:53] <seb128> hey TheMuso willcooke
[09:02] <Laney> hi
[09:02] <Laney> radio show about p vs np on the radio now
[09:02] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm ;-)
[09:07] <didrocks> hey Laney!
[09:09] <Laney> hey didrocks
[09:09] <Laney> how's france today?
[09:10] <ochosi> morning everyone
[09:11] <ochosi> i read that USC will likely be retired for X in favor of gnome-software
[09:11] <ochosi> is this decided already or only a plan?
[09:11] <Laney> both
[09:11] <seb128> hey Laney ochosi
[09:11] <ochosi> (would like to evaluate it for xubuntu, but no PPA with it or anything)
[09:12] <seb128> ochosi, isn't a plan something that is decided?
[09:12] <ochosi> k
[09:12] <Laney> yes because there is a lot of work
[09:12] <ochosi> heh, right
[09:12] <larsu> good morning!
[09:12] <Laney> try unstable
[09:12] <Laney> hey seb128 and larsu!
[09:12] * larsu spent the morning offline :)
[09:12] <Laney> (or fedora I guess)
[09:12] <seb128> hey larsu
[09:12] <Laney> oh god
[09:12] <Laney> was it awful?
[09:12] <willcooke> g'night TheMuso
[09:12] <ochosi> oh ok, i'll look in debian then
[09:12] <seb128> larsu, what are you hacking on?
[09:12] <larsu> Laney: hi! Happy Thursday
[09:12] <larsu> hi seb128! รงa va?
[09:12] <Laney> hacking on plumbing in the sink
[09:13] <Laney> ;-)
[09:13] <seb128> larsu, oui, et toi?
[09:13] <larsu> seb128: started on geonames localization
[09:13] <larsu> seb128: anything more pressing?
[09:13] <Laney> "let's say you have a group of N people"
[09:13] <larsu> seb128: I'm great thanks!
[09:13] <larsu> Laney: sink is done since last week ;)
[09:13] <Laney> nice!
[09:13] <seb128> larsu, no, that's a good one
[09:13] <willcooke> #1480217
[09:14] <Laney> HAHA
[09:14] <Laney> "just leaving that here"
[09:14] <willcooke> Err. maybe bug: 1480217: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1480217
[09:14] <willcooke> there we go
[09:14] <seb128> willcooke, that's fix commited
[09:14] <didrocks> Laney: cloudy
[09:14] <seb128> and uploaded
[09:14] <larsu> willcooke: I fixed that last week
[09:14] <larsu> (or this week?)
[09:15] <larsu> (some week)
[09:15] <willcooke> Cool! I am confused about why there is a "Needs Fixing" review
[09:15] <Laney> it says it is merged
[09:15] <seb128> where?
[09:15] <larsu> are you looking at a different bug? "Merged" for me
[09:15] <seb128> oh
[09:15] <seb128> it was need fixing from me because we found some other issue
[09:15] <seb128> but it fixed
[09:15] <willcooke> Ah, I see the dates. Laney's OK is after seb128's Needs Fixing
[09:15] <seb128> and laney took over reviewing
[09:15] <seb128> so I didn't update mine
[09:15] * Laney thinks this doesn't need 4 minds
[09:15] <Laney> see you!
[09:16] <willcooke> the status is still "In Progress"
[09:16] <seb128> Laney, have fun
[09:16] <seb128> willcooke, fixed that
[09:16] <seb128> set to fix commited
[09:16] <willcooke> Thanks seb128
[09:16] <seb128> yw!
[09:17] <willcooke> and thanks larsu for fixing it
[09:18] <seb128> larsu, do you know if "gtk_window_set_titlebar (GTK_WINDOW (window), NULL);" should be enough to make the GtkHeaderBar in gedit not be a titlebar?
[09:18] <larsu> btw, I'll probably drop by the systemd conference later today
[09:18] <seb128> (that's what the osx backend does)
[09:18] <larsu> but I should be online
[09:18] <seb128> k
[09:19] <seb128> you got an invitation?
[09:19] <larsu> seb128: that will remove the headerbar completely
[09:19] <seb128> or paid $crazy_price for a ticket?
[09:19] <larsu> you need to pack it into the main area of the widget if you want to have it shown
[09:19] <seb128> larsu, what is gedit looking like on osX then?
[09:19] <larsu> seb128: invitation
[09:19] <seb128> cool
[09:19] <larsu> seb128: only titlebar (this is what that line would do)
[09:19] <seb128> k
[09:20] <seb128> with no menu
[09:20] <seb128> weird
[09:20] <larsu> oh?
[09:20] <larsu> this is wrong
[09:20] <seb128> well gedit upstream doesn't have a menubar
[09:20] <larsu> I would look into this, but I can't install gedit on X
[09:20] <seb128> btw your patch is accept commit I think
[09:20] <seb128> why not?
[09:21] <larsu> gedit : Depends: gedit-common (< 3.11) but 3.16.3-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:21] <seb128> ah
[09:21] <seb128> you have a local install
[09:21] <seb128> you can sudo apt-get install gedit/xenial gedit-common/xenial
[09:21] <larsu> I do?!
[09:22] <seb128> well, 3.16.3-0ubuntu3
[09:22] <seb128> that's likely your local update build
[09:22] <seb128> we are on 3.10
[09:22] <larsu> ah you're right! Thanks :)
[09:22] <seb128> yw
[09:22] <larsu> ok now your problem :)
[09:22] <seb128> I still didn't make up my mind on decorations or not
[09:22] <seb128> well my problem is with the 3.18 update I'm working on
[09:22] <seb128> it works fine but I wanted to try with normal decorations
[09:23] <larsu> and then you get no menubar?
[09:23] <larsu> or is that unrelated?
[09:23] <seb128> unrelated
[09:23] <seb128> things work well
[09:23] <seb128> I'm just trying to find the easiest way to turn off the gtkheaderbar as decoration
[09:24] <seb128> to see how things look with decoration + headerbar
[09:24] <larsu> yes that line should do it
[09:24] <larsu> if you want the headerbar as toolbar, you also need to pack the headrbar into the main area of the window (maybe wrapped in a vbox)
[09:25] <seb128> right, thanks
[09:26] <larsu> let me know if you need help
[09:28] <seb128> should be fine, but thanks
[09:28] <seb128> I'm pondering just uploading with the headerbar to get feedback
[09:28] <seb128> it's looking/working mostly fine
[09:28] <seb128> the other thing I'm unsure about is whether we should hide the gear menu under unity
[09:28] <seb128> would it make sense to have both? like keep the upstream UI but add the menubar as well for desktop consistency/those who use it?
[09:42] <larsu> seb128: the idea we had last time we talked about is that we show the gear menu when LIM is enabled
[09:42] <larsu> which requires a downstream patch, of course
[09:42] <seb128> what's the point of hiding it in normal use?
[09:43] <larsu> good question
[09:43] <larsu> I guess we could leave it
[09:45] <seb128> I'm just wondering
[09:45] <seb128> it would make the application looks like design and have the modern UI for those who like that
[09:45] <seb128> but still provide the menubar for consistency/users that like those better
[09:46] <larsu> indeed. I think I'm in favor (at least for trying it out and getting feedback)
[09:47] <Laney> we like headerbars now?
[09:53] <larsu> Laney: yes?!
[09:53] <larsu> did we decide against them at the sprint?
[09:53] <larsu> so much back and forth, I can't even remember
[09:54] <seb128> same here, I sort of lost track
[09:54] <seb128> I just want that gedit update out
[09:54] <Laney> There was some command at the previous sprint to not change anything
[09:55] <larsu> willcooke: ^
[09:55] <Laney> but maybe I was wrong
[09:55] <Laney> I thought we were going to make gedit use the osx UI for us
[09:55] <Laney> trad titlebar + menubar + no toolbar
[09:56] <larsu> I thought we changed our mind at the sprint
[09:56] <larsu> why else would we have the whole rgba window discussion?
[09:56] <Laney> hahahAHAHAH
[09:56] <Laney> this is awesome
[09:57] <larsu> no, *you* are awesome
[09:57] <seb128> lol
[09:57] <Laney> โฅ
[09:58] <seb128> screw LIM users :p
[10:02] <willcooke> I think we agreed that LIM would suffer, but HUD and Global menu would still work right?
[10:02] <willcooke> But that we are going to put a demo together to show design so that they can check it
[10:02] * larsu nods
[10:02] <larsu> thanks will
[10:03] <Laney> so stop the patches?
[10:05] <willcooke> what do the patches do?
[10:05] <seb128> Laney, maybe not before having the demo and the result officially acked
[10:06] <larsu> having it in xenial is fine, isn't it? We can always revert
[10:08] <willcooke> +1 to seb128 and larsu
[10:08] <seb128> k, let's get gedit in like that
[10:08] <seb128> it's going to be a good demo case
[10:08] <willcooke> perfect
[10:09] <seb128> though we need the unity fix for the corner rendering issue to be resolved
[10:09] <seb128> but that's minor
[10:09] <didrocks> corner rendering issuesโฆ and my eyes! :)
[10:10] <seb128> haha
[10:10] <seb128> sharp corners in your eyes hurt?!
[10:10] <seb128> :-)
[10:10] <larsu> Trevinho is "on it"
[10:11] <Trevinho> larsu: actually I'm leaving he ball to hikiko-lpt as she got a proof of concept using proper shadows that is maybe better than what we decided... So, I'm waiting for that.
[10:11] <seb128> larsu, btw any idea if it would be easy to do the gtk hack that somebody suggested on that upstream blog, dropping the headerbar decorations when maximized
[10:11] <didrocks> seb128: I wear glasses!!!!
[10:11] <didrocks> security ones :p
[10:12] <seb128> :-)
[10:12] <willcooke> oh, that reminds me...
[10:12] * willcooke makes an opticians appointment
[10:12] <didrocks> willcooke: see you in a year or 2!
[10:12] <willcooke> :)
[10:13] <willcooke> Trevinho, will that fix be for 15.10 as well?
[10:13] <seb128> when he says "see you" he really means it
[10:13] <seb128> blurry vision meanwhile for you!
[10:13] <willcooke> ha
[10:13] <Trevinho> willcooke: *maybe* but not sure
[10:13] <willcooke> So I think we need to fix the square edges in 15.10 as well really
[10:14] <willcooke> but if that's a tonne of work, then I can be easily convinced that we don't need to
[10:14] <seb128> willcooke, which ones you mean?
[10:14] <seb128> the tooltip issue is being addressed
[10:14] <seb128> the one we are talking about is only impacting some applications
[10:14] <willcooke> ahhhhh
[10:15] <willcooke> right, I understand now
[10:15] <didrocks> and millions of didrocks are happy :)
[10:15] <willcooke> thx
[10:15] <seb128> you can see one example if you have a bluetooth device configured and try to send files to it from the indicator
[10:15] <seb128> the dialog is using headerbar and have solid corners
[10:16] <larsu> Trevinho: yes, should be a small patch in gtk for all applications that don't add those buttons manually (and I think none do, it's a feature of gtkheaderbar)
[10:16] <seb128> willcooke, oh, easier test case, the font viewer
[10:18] <willcooke> seb128, do I need X to see it?
[10:18] <seb128> no
[10:18] <Trevinho> larsu: not sure I got what you mean
[10:18] <larsu> Trevinho: I meant to ping seb128, sorry
[10:18] <seb128> larsu, thanks
[10:19] <larsu> seb128: now or wait until we have the ok?
[10:19] <seb128> larsu, for the "hide the decoration when maximized"?
[10:20] <Laney> some theming needed too, or something
[10:20] <Trevinho> larsu: ah, that was something that some gnome guy was saying in a blogpost...
[10:20] <Laney> font viewer looks weird when maximised
[10:21] <larsu> seb128: yes
[10:21] <Trevinho> Laney: hey... not sure whether the silo 11 has been fully published, but it should be fine now
[10:21] <Laney> hi Trevinho
[10:21] <Laney> I had some weird highlights last night
[10:21] <larsu> Laney: because of round corners? Ya, I think we should square them when maximized (and I thought we already did...)
[10:22] <seb128> larsu, I think we should do it in any case, we have csd applications in universe, we can't patch the world, that would make them look better
[10:22] <Trevinho> yeah, you know... hallucinations...
[10:22] <Trevinho> :D
[10:22] <Laney> larsu: no, not the corners
[10:22] <Laney> the gradient
[10:23] <larsu> same problem now when moving a window to the top
[10:23] <seb128> gedit 3.18.1 uploaded, enjoy good desktop people ;-)
[10:23] <larsu> or maximizing it on half the screen
[10:24] <larsu> I agree it's ugly, but it's the design and we've specifically been asked not to change it
[10:24] <seb128> larsu, thanks for the work you did previous cycle on that update, it made the remaining bits easy
[10:24] <larsu> seb128: \o/ thanks
[10:24] <Laney> I don't think that request extends to this
[10:26] <larsu> and then should we change the half-maximized ones as well?
[10:27] <Laney> sounds like a perfect enemy of good argument
[10:27] <larsu> hm?
[10:27] <Laney> can't/won't fix all the cases so shouldn't fix this one?
[10:28] <Laney> or: already have bad cases - adding another bad one is therefore alright
[10:28] <larsu> didn't mean that, sorry. honestly asking
[10:29] <Laney> righto
[10:29] <Laney> don't know how you can theme that, but if possible then I guess so
[10:29] <Laney> and I don't know if it would look more weird to have the headerbar change theme when you maximise it
[10:30] * larsu makes a note to try this out soon
[10:30] <Laney> I mean, I know you can theme maximised stuff differently
[10:31] <Laney> but a titlebar which just happens to touch the panel...
[10:33] <larsu> probably not :/
[10:33] <larsu> seb128: is the gsettings-qt fix scheduled for landing? https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gsettings-qt/lp1503693/+merge/276190
[10:36] <seb128> larsu, yeah, I put in a silo yesterday, it's waiting for qa testing
[10:36] <larsu> thanks!
[10:36] <seb128> yw!
[10:36] <seb128> sorry it took some time
[10:36] <larsu> meh, it was waiting for a review until yesterday
[10:36] <larsu> and I pushed a last fix even
[10:40] <Sweet5hark1> *grumble* no popey *grumble*
[10:42] <willcooke> Sweet5hark1, I'd guess he's shifted his hours for UOS
[10:42] <willcooke> Sweet5hark1, probably be on soon
[10:42] <didrocks> such a shifter! :)
[10:42] * Sweet5hark1 is just being an annoying child that cant wait.
[10:43] <Sweet5hark1> willcooke: thanks, actually its not too urgent ;)
[10:45] * Laney runs dep11-generator process . xenial
[10:52] <willcooke> Sweet5hark1, et voilร ^^
[10:52] <Sweet5hark1> willcooke: shhh, you will shy him away!
[10:52] <Sweet5hark1> popey: heya!
[10:52] * willcooke lays down a trail of kebabs and lager
[10:53] <popey> ooh!
[10:53] <willcooke> box, stick, piece of string....
[10:53] <willcooke> *yank*
[10:53] <willcooke> GOT HIM!
[10:53] <Sweet5hark1> hrhr
[10:54] <popey> nom nom nom
[10:54] <Sweet5hark1> popey: libreoffice-vanilla 5.0.3 update finished compiling on https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-3-4 finally.
[10:54] <popey> excellent!
[10:55] <popey> thanks Sweet5hark1
[10:56] <Sweet5hark1> popey: the splitting of -dbgsym with the ppa setting seems to have worked -- and more importantly: it doesnt seem to increase the size of the non-dbg package in a relevant way.
[10:58] <Sweet5hark1> popey: no arm build on that yet, though. So I guess the thing to do now is a/ check the build/publish dbgsym package checkboxes on the canonical-community ppa b/ copy over the package (without copying binaries, so that they will be re-build, including armhf)
[10:59] <popey> where are those switches?
[11:00] <Trevinho> willcooke: so for the python3 thing in unity, who can I talk to?
[11:01] <seb128> larsu, I have https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/notify-osd/spam-a-bit-less/+merge/274382 in a silo and just tested it, with it the sound icons are wrong when mouse whell scrolling over the indicator
[11:02] <Trevinho> Because this is the situation: unity launch script depends on python2, fixing it is trivial and I've done it. So we can ensure that the dependency of the unity package is on python3.
[11:02] <Trevinho> However, unity also builds unity-autopilot that is in universe and should depend on python2.7 (as ap-legacy is not python3-friendly)
[11:02] <Sweet5hark1> popey: go to ppa -> "Change details" -> check "Build debug symbols" and "Publish debug symbols"
[11:02] <seb128> Trevinho, there is a patch on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1512909
[11:02] <larsu> seb128: indeed.... I wonder how that change can influece the icon :/
[11:02] <popey> Sweet5hark1, okay, thanks
[11:02] <Trevinho> ah
[11:03] <seb128> Trevinho, having universe binaries using python2 is fine
[11:03] <Trevinho> Ok, I was wondering that this was enough ${python3:Depends},, but i wanted to ask
[11:03] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, sure
[11:03] <popey> Sweet5hark1, you have those both checked?
[11:03] <Trevinho> I just wanted to make sure that ${python:Depends} was correclty replaced on "unity" package
[11:03] <Sweet5hark1> popey: yes.
[11:03] <Trevinho> Sweet5hark1: did you see the reddit AMA req? :)
[11:03] <popey> thanks.
[11:04] <Sweet5hark1> Trevinho: huh?
[11:04] <Trevinho> Sweet5hark1: sent a link last night
[11:04] <Trevinho> Sweet5hark1: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3rjbj4/ama_request_for_libreoffice_team/
[11:05] <seb128> wooot, new glib
[11:05] <Sweet5hark1> popey: btw, I also had a look at the libreofficekit stuff and changes for the upcoming LibreOffice 5.1 release ... lots of good news there, it seems it would to be easy to add some basic editing capabilities with that (e.g. for correcting a sentence in a press release or a presentation slide, or some basic formatting foo) ...
[11:05] <Sweet5hark1> Trevinho: ohhh, me clicks link.
[11:07] <popey> Blimey.
[11:08] <seb128> is guest session working for others on xenial?
[11:08] <Laney> looks like there's a pygobject -> libpeas -> gedit problem
[11:09] * Sweet5hark1 makes a note to do the sproket dance at FOSDEM (LinuxTag is dead, Jim, isnt it?)
[11:11] <seb128> Laney, you mean libpeas not built on !i386/amd64?
[11:11] <Laney> ye
[11:11] <Laney> trying a test build
[11:12] <seb128> I bet the pygobject build issue is a gtk < 3.18 one
[11:12] <seb128> https://git.gnome.org/browse/pygobject/commit/?id=7a3bb6971f22accd25e987496d377e1879f6e1ba
[11:13] <Laney> why does it work on those arches then?
[11:13] <seb128> pygobject ftbfs everywhere
[11:13] <Laney> no need to dupe my work anyway
[11:13] <seb128> well, I had looked at pygobject on monday
[11:13] <seb128> so I'm just commenting about what I found out then
[11:13] <Laney> ok
[11:14] <seb128> not duplicating anything now
[11:14] <seb128> good luck figuring it out ;-)
[11:24] * didrocks goes for the second run of the week! see you later dudes
[11:31] <popey> Sweet5hark1, okay, i have set the community team ppa like that, shall I copy it over now, for a test build?
[11:31] <Sweet5hark1> popey: yes, please.
[11:31] <popey> okay
[11:32] <seb128> didrocks, enjoy!
[12:36] <desrt> hello humans
[12:37] <seb128> hey desrt
[12:38] <seb128> andyrock, Trevinho, hum, got compiz eating 100% cpu again with one thread in libpam code again ... did anything change in that area recently? it's twice this week (using xenial)
[12:38] <desrt> good morning seb
[12:38] <Trevinho> seb128: nope
[12:38] <Trevinho> not at our level
[12:38] <seb128> :-(
[12:39] <seb128> nobody else reported that yet?
[12:39] <seb128> pam didn't change either :-/
[13:03] <andyrock> seb128: nope
[13:04] <andyrock> seb128: no change at all for two years
[13:04] <andyrock> seb128: on wily o xenial?
[13:04] <seb128> xenial
[13:04] <andyrock> new gcc stdlib?
[13:04] <andyrock> we use c++11 multi thread sync features
[13:05] <andyrock> maybe something changed at that level?
[13:09] <seb128> could be...
[13:09] <seb128> well so far it's only me
[13:09] <seb128> so let's see
[13:09] <Laney> this bug is weird
[13:09] <Laney> the same test fails
[13:09] <Laney> if you build wily's pygobject on xenial
[13:10] * Laney invokes the pitti
[13:11] <didrocks> let the man sleep a little bit longer today :p
[13:11] <Laney> I called the hotel to wake him up
[13:13] <seb128> driiiing
[13:14] <willcooke> fonts!
[13:14] <didrocks> Laney: if that doesn't work, I guess step 2 in a normal slow-raising alarm-clock type is to call the swat team
[13:14] <didrocks> step 3 is an international arrest request
[13:14] <Laney> you've done this before I see
[13:15] <didrocks> and what assure you won't be next? ;)
[13:15] <seb128> willcooke, throwing random keywords at the channel? ;-)
[13:15] <willcooke> it's a primer to me msg'ing laney
[13:15] <willcooke> ;)
[13:15] <didrocks> willcooke: for Martin, it's more "ffm" as a keyword
[13:16] <didrocks> (even if he gave up now that it works in unity7)
[13:19] <Laney> a-ha
[13:19] <Laney> downgrading g-i fixes it
[13:38] <qengho> good morning.
[13:46] <seb128> hey qengho
[13:57] <Trevinho> do you guys also have the bug where if you just click over an indicator it doesn't get prelighted?
[14:06] <Trevinho> seb128: ^ ?
[14:06] <seb128> Trevinho, yes
[14:06] <seb128> still doesn't if I move down
[14:06] <seb128> but it does if I move back up to the panel
[14:07] <Trevinho> yeah... Wondering since when there's that issue
[14:30] <pitti> Bonjour mes amis !
[14:30] <pitti> didrocks, Laney: I actually did wake up at 5:30 (like clockwork), but I didn't go on IRC this morning
[14:30] <pitti> wanted to have some quiet time to draft https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/TestClassesSpec
[14:30] <pitti> what's up?
[14:30] <didrocks> bonjour pitti !
[14:31] <pitti> didrocks: รงa didrocks, comment vas-tu ?
[14:31] <pitti> err, s/รงa/salut/
[14:31] <didrocks> pitti: รงa va bien mieux, presque plus malade :) et toi ?
[14:32] <Laney> hey pitti
[14:32] <pitti> didrocks: je suis un peu fatigue, c'est dรฉjร jeudi :)
[14:33] <seb128> hey pitti
[14:33] <pitti> didrocks: "presque plus malade" -> "nearly more sick"?
[14:33] <pitti> salut seb128 ! *accolade*
[14:33] <seb128> *accolade* ;-)
[14:33] <didrocks> pitti: "nearly *not* sick"
[14:33] <pitti> didrocks: oh, "presque plus" -> "almost not"?
[14:34] <didrocks> yeah ;)
[14:34] <didrocks> plus (you pronounce the "s") is "more"
[14:34] <didrocks> plus with a silent "s", is "no more"
[14:34] <didrocks> here, it was obviously a silent s :p
[14:34] <pitti> merci pour la petite leรงon :)
[14:34] <didrocks> because, writing makes it easier ;)
[14:34] <didrocks> pitti: de rien ;)
[14:35] <pitti> didrocks: ma professeur dit "plus" sans un "s" pour le cas "positif" aussi
[14:35] <didrocks> pitti: ah, ce n'est pas vraiment valide, je ne trouve pas de cas oรน รงa marche. seb128 ? ^
[14:35] <seb128> pitti, it's rather "almost not anymore" (e.g have a sense of things that used to be true and is less)
[14:36] <didrocks> I don't see any case where it's positive and you don't pronounce the s
[14:36] <pitti> didrocks: elle est de Paris, peut-รชtre un accent diffรฉrent ?
[14:36] <didrocks> not really on thisโฆ
[14:37] <seb128> didrocks, hum?
[14:37] <pitti> je vais elle demander ร รงa
[14:37] <seb128> didrocks, "tu es plus grand que moi"
[14:37] <didrocks> seb128: 15:35:09 pitti | didrocks: ma professeur dit "plus" sans un "s" pour le cas "positif" aussi
[14:37] <didrocks> ah
[14:37] <didrocks> yeah, so there is a case :)
[14:38] <seb128> I would say whenever plus is followed by something
[14:38] <didrocks> seb128: do you know the rule for pronouncing it ? because "j'en ai plus que toi", you willโฆ
[14:38] <seb128> no :-(
[14:38] <didrocks> yeah, no :p
[14:38] <didrocks> plus + quantifier maybe?
[14:39] <didrocks> and in that case, it's positive, but you don't pronounce
[14:39] <Laney> poisson
[14:39] <didrocks> plus + adjectif
[14:39] * Laney joins in
[14:39] <seb128> it's too difficult
[14:39] <pitti> รฉvidemment cette langue est trop difficile :)
[14:40] <pitti> Laney: la viande !
[14:40] <didrocks> seb128: plus + adjectif isn't the only case to not pronounce the s and it's still positive
[14:40] <didrocks> "plus j'y pense, plus je trouve cela difficile"
[14:41] <didrocks> yeah, so there might be a rule about pronouncing the s, but we don't know ;)
[14:41] <seb128> http://www.etudes-litteraires.com/forum/topic26250-prononciation-de-plus.html
[14:42] <seb128> we are not the only ones to discuss the topic :p
[14:42] <pitti> that would be surprising indeed
[14:42] <seb128> post 2 has details
[14:43] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, but post 2 doesn't cover all the case "j'en ai plus que toi"
[14:43] <didrocks> no an end of sentence
[14:43] <didrocks> and no way it may be mislead with the negative sense
[14:43] <didrocks> (and not an addition)
[14:44] <didrocks> waow, never thought about that one, clearly complexโฆ
[14:44] <Laney> pitti: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748832#c8 <- this was what I was pinging you about
[14:44] <Laney> Not sure if you know g-i itself though, so don't worry about it :)
[14:45] * Laney goes for some lunch
[14:45] <larsu> pitti: we miss you here :)
[14:45] * pitti likes the "don't worry" while being too distracted on the sprint :)
[14:46] <didrocks> yeah, let's talk about real work!
[14:46] <didrocks> like this "s" rules :)
[14:46] <pitti> larsu: me too! please say hello to Michael, Lennart, Kay, and Harald
[14:46] <seb128> Laney, enjoy!
[14:46] <pitti> larsu: and please prod Tom to fix the networkd regression :)
[14:47] <pitti> Laney: more seriously, are you actually at the conf?
[14:47] <xclaesse> in ubuntu 15.10 I often have the gtkfilechoose that freeze the whole app (gedit in my case) when I have sftp:// locations mounted in gvfs
[14:47] <larsu> pitti: will do!
[14:47] <larsu> I guess he'll know which regression I'm talking aobut
[14:48] <pitti> larsu: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1645
[14:48] <seb128> xclaesse, likely some sync call in gtkfileselector? having a bt when that's happening would be useful
[14:48] <pitti> larsu: I was mostly kidding, this isn't really good conference matter
[14:49] <pitti> larsu: shaking hands and listening to what's new is!
[14:49] * larsu shakes hands
[14:49] <xclaesse> seb128, running it in gdb now, let's see if I can reproduce
[14:50] <xclaesse> seb128, actually I have /var/crash/_usr_bin_gedit.1000.uploaded
[14:50] <xclaesse> probably that already
[14:50] <xclaesse> dunno where I can find it
[14:51] <seb128> probably not
[14:51] <seb128> a segfault would close the app, not block the UI
[14:51] <seb128> does in unfroze and keep working?
[14:52] <seb128> or does it crash?
[14:58] <seb128> larsu, Laney, do we consider that to be ok or buggy? http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gedit.png
[14:58] <seb128> larsu, unsure what was the logic dialog, was it to use linked button when csd is on?
[15:33] <larsu> seb128: yes
[15:33] <seb128> larsu, yes to "be ok"?
[15:34] <seb128> it looks weird to me, at least the border around the button being cut
[15:34] <larsu> seb128: yes to "do we consider this buggy"
[15:34] <seb128> oh, ok ;-)
[15:34] <larsu> it's ugly in our theme
[15:34] <seb128> do we want to fix the theme?
[15:34] <larsu> and we have a gtk patch for the built-in dialogs
[15:34] <seb128> or what is the right way to handle those?
[15:34] <larsu> but many apps pack those buttons themselves
[15:34] <larsu> so we'd need to fix this in apps
[15:36] * larsu makes a note to fix this
[15:36] <larsu> seb128: btw, this isn't a problem in the 3.10 version
[15:37] <seb128> of gedit?
[15:37] <seb128> right, but we updated to 3.18 now :p
[15:38] <larsu> I didn't get it when I updated this morning
[15:38] <seb128> btw they sort of gave a pre +1 to your menubar patch
[15:38] <seb128> right
[15:38] <larsu> and don't want to use all of the conf wifi now :)
[15:38] <seb128> it's blocked in xenial-proposed due to libpeas and pygobject issues
[15:38] <seb128> Laney was looking at it
[15:38] <seb128> and I think he needed pitti
[15:38] <seb128> larsu, yeah, no hurry
[15:38] <larsu> :)
[15:39] * larsu is doing some talking and shaking hands anyway - pitti told me to ;)
[15:39] * pitti pats larsu -- "braver Hund!"
[15:39] <pitti> larsu: *hug*
[15:39] <larsu> haha
[15:39] <larsu> pitti: hug back!
[15:51] <seb128> tjaalton, I don't understand your comment on bug #1480217, you say that the nautilus fixes creates intel driver issues?
[15:52] <tjaalton> seb128: the crasher was triggered by nautilus which wasn't patched for this bug, but there's still some corruption left
[15:53] <seb128> tjaalton, how is that relevant to the scaling issue?
[15:53] <tjaalton> the crasher itself is a bug in intel x driver, fixed in wily and up
[15:53] <seb128> your comment makes it sounds like there is a problem with the nautilus change
[15:53] <seb128> that's not the case right?
[15:53] <tjaalton> seb128: no
[15:53] <tjaalton> "this update doesn't trigger it anymore" sounds to me that it fixed it
[15:54] <tjaalton> just wanted to say that the corruption is not fully fixed
[15:56] <tjaalton> added a comment
[15:57] <Laney> tjaalton: feel free to upload that SRU now that you've built and tested it ;-)
[15:57] <seb128> tjaalton, right, that bug/change was neither about the segfault nor the corruption though, so mentioning corruption in the middle is a bit confusing
[15:57] * Laney only did T so far
[15:58] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks fo rthe update!
[16:02] * Trevinho has done something wrong.... Just accepted to go to IKEA.... Please kill me.
[16:02] <Trevinho> him*
[16:28] <tjaalton> seb128: huh, it was all about the corruption
[16:28] <Trevinho> bye
[16:30] <tjaalton> Laney: oh yeah, guess i might push it for vivid too since that's what i use for testing, not lts-vivid on trusty which would mean more work
[16:30] <Laney> tjaalton: hm?
[16:30] <Laney> this is nautilus no?
[16:30] <tjaalton> yes
[16:30] <Laney> orthogonal to lts-* then
[16:30] <willcooke> mdeslaur, you might be interested in this: https://plus.google.com/111583136332687352922/posts/d3NqxYfVXBu
[16:31] <tjaalton> sure, just saying it would help me when doing crap on vivid
[16:31] <Laney> ok
[16:31] <tjaalton> and not hit this issue which would be fixed in trusty
[16:31] <Laney> are you planning on testing wily too? :)
[16:31] <Laney> (does lts-wily exist yet?)
[16:32] <Laney> (or ever?)
[16:32] <tjaalton> i might
[16:32] <tjaalton> doesn't exist yet
[16:32] <Laney> nod
[16:32] <Laney> well, I have backporting this there on my list
[16:32] <Laney> so lemme know if you do it so that I can cross it off
[16:32] <mdeslaur> willcooke: I just volunteered to unbork the current one, not become a new maintainer :P
[16:33] <willcooke> ;)
[16:33] <willcooke> same thing
[16:33] <mdeslaur> willcooke: thanks
[16:33] <mdeslaur> ha!
[16:33] <Laney> this is going to end up being your life's work now you've said that
[16:34] <Laney> usb-creator: the project which outlives Ubuntu, Linux and all other Free Software
[16:34] <tjaalton> Laney: right, i might do wily too
[16:35] <Laney> ok, just let me know
[16:35] <willcooke> usb-creator consumes systemd
[16:35] <tjaalton> yep
[16:35] <mdeslaur> lol
[16:36] <Laney> let's start with a track at the next UOS
[17:36] <mhall119> willcooke: was there a decision made to drop brasero and empathy from the default desktop install?
[17:36] <willcooke> mhall119, pretty much yes
[17:36] <willcooke> mhall119, both are unmaintained upstream and not used very much
[17:36] <didrocks> maybe, we should send an email to the ubuntu-desktop ML about it
[17:36] <didrocks> I guess UOS isn't enough
[17:36] * mhall119 is working on the convergence track summaries
[17:36] <willcooke> sure, we can do that
[17:37] <didrocks> mhall119: don't forget the addition of gnome-calendar
[17:37] <mhall119> didrocks: which is being added, yes?
[17:37] <didrocks> yep
[17:38] <mhall119> thanks
[17:38] <Sweet5hark1> its been done.
[17:39] <Laney> I will mail the list when I do it, of course
[17:40] <Sweet5hark1> despite enormous incompetence of some players that bordered on sabotage, USN-2793-1 is out (fixing 4 cves on 3 releases).
[17:40] <willcooke> \o/
[17:41] <Laney> silly specially crafted files
[17:41] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: they should be outlawed.
[17:42] <didrocks> have a good night everyone, see you tomorrow! :)
[17:42] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: I hear the political climate for such actions is welcoming in the UK right now, given you just outlawed evil encryption. Wanna start?
[17:42] <didrocks> (I'll probably run early, so unsure I'll be connected when you arrive if I'm not lazy)
[17:43] <Sweet5hark1> didrocks: have a nice evening!
[17:43] <didrocks> thanks Sweet5hark1 ;)
[17:56] <willcooke> mhall119, I've drafted a quick email, just want seb128 to sanity check it and then I'll send it
[17:58] * Laney blinks
[18:02] <mhall119> willcooke: email to me?
[18:04] <Laney> Do you want to see the current pending diff?
[18:04] <Laney> I was planning on sending such a mail when doing the actual changes
[18:10] <Laney> mhall119: You could just mention those three changes as probable and say to watch out on ubuntu-desktop for when it's done
[18:10] <Laney> probably next week
[18:10] * Laney has to go now, see you
[18:19] <willcooke> mhall119, desktop mailinbg list
[18:56] <willcooke> gnight all
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[00:10] <bbrawner> So I'm looking into getting involved with the Ubuntu Development team, and I figured patching bugs would be a good place to start. Is there some way I could filter them by language though? I'm hoping to find some packages written in python that I could contribute to
[00:17] <Unit193> mugshot, catfish, a few of those.
[00:39] <bluesabre> evening all
[00:40] <knome> gey sean
[01:28] <micahg> hi bluesabre can you do 13:00 or 14:00 UTC for a meeting?
[01:32] <bluesabre> hey micahg, no can do, that's when I am on my way to work/at work
[01:35] <micahg> 12:00?
[01:56] <bluesabre> micahg: 12:00 utc is doable, yes
[01:58] <micahg> 6AM works for me :)
[02:01] <bluesabre> :D
[02:12] <Unit193> I won't be attending.
[04:45] <Unit193> bluesabre: See? Someone in #x asking about -overlay! :D
[06:24] <krytarik> knome, slickymaster: Current state of my docs changes is this, btw: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1HfnJUigyCZ5an2nRQJS/ - now just to decide whether we want to rename the "desktop-guide" source dir too, and if the current publish directories are fine.
[06:32] <Unit193> ali1234, Noskcaj: re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mousepad/+bug/1472690 Built with that debdiff, still got the crash.
[06:43] <ali1234> Unit193: it's because the deb has a prebuilt version of the glade file
[06:43] <ali1234> mousepad-prefs-dialog-ui.h - this needs to be rebuilt with the patched glade. it doesn't exist in upstream git
[06:43] <Unit193> Cool, so I shouldn't shout to you just Noskcaj.
[06:43] <Unit193> thanks, ali1234.
[08:05] <flocculant> knome ochosi - I did link the pad from the UOS session - which has the usc demise on it
[08:06] <Unit193> Should I be scared of GSC's deps?
[08:06] <flocculant> Unit193: who knows - can't find it in the repos yet :)
[08:07] <flocculant> and tbh I'm not sure I would +1 us using that anyway - in a year it's likely to be a window with no buttons ...
[08:07] <Unit193> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-November/038972.html
[08:07] <Unit193> flocculant: Ahaha! So true.
[08:07] <Unit193> And, what would you propose?
[08:08] <flocculant> a big pot of superglue and some hope and a pair of wings
[08:08] <flocculant> I've just woken up :d
[08:09] <Unit193> Yeah alright, 3am my time. Makes sense. For GUIs, I've always been the most fond of Synaptic, but it's missing paid apps and I guess isn't as shiny as others.
[08:09] <flocculant> yep - I use that tbh
[08:10] <Unit193> muon!
[08:10] * Unit193 ducks and runs.
[08:10] <flocculant> not sure what the mate thing is like
[08:10] <flocculant> you won't be able to run far or fast enough :D
[08:10] <flocculant> bluesabre micahg - ack that :)
[08:12] <Unit193> Looked at Deepin for a sec, py2 and no commits in the repo I found since 2012.
[08:13] <flocculant> well the meeting's not for another 4 weeks - so enough time to actually get some info I guess
[08:23] <flocculant> omg - you should see synaptic in numix :p
[08:25] <Unit193> http://i.imgur.com/6zgFnpv.png ?
[08:25] <flocculant> not here
[08:26] <flocculant> http://i.imgur.com/CR3l5sd.png
[08:26] <Unit193> Numix from the shimmer ppa? Yeah that theme is weird.
[08:26] <Unit193> ...NIiiiice.
[08:26] <flocculant> that wasn't my first reaction :p
[08:34] <flocculant> Unit193: can you add the meeting to the calendar now the time is set please :)
[08:34] <flocculant> got no xub calendar anymore
[08:36] <Unit193> Google is stupid.
[08:36] <flocculant> no argument from me
[08:37] <flocculant> can't see how to add it AND it show AND to let me add events ...
[08:38] <Unit193> Well, more that it logged me out as I was adding it... Check, should be set.
[08:38] <flocculant> ha ha
[08:38] <flocculant> not showing
[08:39] <flocculant> t'is now :)
[09:14] <ochosi> knome: since you asked yesterday i followed up in #u-desktop: it's decided that gnome-software will replace USC in 16.04
[09:15] <ochosi> however it isnt packaged anywhere apart from fedora and debian unstable, so it' a bit hard to test atm
[09:15] <ochosi> Unit193: any constructive ideas how we could get our hands on it early? also: could you check the deps for us?
[09:58] <Unit193> ochosi: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/3.16.5-1
[10:01] <Unit193> It is in depwait, so it'll have to be changes, but deps aren't my favorite.
[10:05] <Unit193> http://paste.debian.net/323597/ that's so far in Debian, pretty sure that'll change a bit. So not aweful, yetโข
[10:06] <Unit193> 12N
[10:18] <Unit193> (So that is, in Ubuntu needs a newer packagekit, it can come after that. Otherwise, try in Debian? :D )
[11:03] <bluesabre> Unit193: it will probably be patched into oblivion and be unrecognizable :)
[11:04] <bluesabre> "wow, is this ubuntu software center!"
[11:05] <flocculant> bluesabre: lol
[11:06] <bluesabre> morning flocculant
[11:06] <flocculant> ochosi: thanks for pointing for that bug - once I looked I found one that bluesabre had commented on while back - so ignoring that
[11:06] <flocculant> bluesabre: :)
[11:07] <flocculant> bluesabre: anything likely to happen with bug 1500307 ? if not I won't add it to the bug list :)
[11:07] <Unit193> 'Least it won't be python.
[11:09] <bluesabre> Unit193: pretty sure usc is one of the worst examples of python gui app speed :D
[11:12] <bluesabre> flocculant: it'd be nice if there was a way to do it within the theme itself
[11:13] <bluesabre> otherwise, from what I am reading we'd have to write to sudoers, and we'll not be doing that
[11:13] <bluesabre> or just leaving them enabled
[11:13] <bluesabre> (but they are crap and incosistent)
[11:13] <flocculant> :)
[11:13] <flocculant> I'll not add it then :D
[11:14] <flocculant> as long as I know it's only greybird - didn't actually think of trying a different them - I'm *shrug* anyway
[12:07] <knome> flocculant, totally slipped me :)
[12:07] <knome> ochosi, cheers
[12:09] <flocculant> knome: the m/l link turned up anyway :)
[12:09] <knome> :)
[12:11] <knome> bluesabre, are we interested in fixing bug 1294600
[12:21] <bluesabre> knome: it may not be a good idea. Per ochosi's discussion with olivier, that won't be seen in a stable xfwm release until 4.14
[12:23] <knome> mhm
[12:23] <knome> want to add it to a bp?
[12:58] <flocculant> why would someone (and kde/dolphin) expect a text file to be executable ? doesn't make sense to me at all ... bug 1513383
[13:02] <ali1234> because it's a shell script?
[13:03] <flocculant> except it's not as it is - it works ok if I muck about with the thing the OP has that apparently shows as executable in dolphin but not in thunar
[13:04] <flocculant> ali1234: it has 2 lines, one's rm -rf foo the other unzip foo
[13:05] <ali1234> well, look at it another way
[13:05] <ali1234> lets say you had that file and it was marked as executable in the file system
[13:05] <ali1234> but it isn't an executable
[13:05] <ali1234> how do you use thunar to remove the executable bit from it?
[13:05] <knome> if the first lin is #!/bin/bash, you can mark it executable
[13:09] <flocculant> was my understanding ^^
[13:10] <flocculant> why would I want to mark some random text file executable - anyway, that's the bug, got a bit more information on it for whoever looks further
[13:10] <knome> if the system marked the file as executable, it's probably better not remove that bit
[13:10] <knome> if it was you, you likely should know how you did it to be able to revert
[13:11] <knome> and if the label was shown always for files when they have the bit, but only for things that should be marked executable (as now), wouldn't it be confusing that the label was hidden?
[13:12] <ali1234> yes it would
[13:12] <ali1234> which is why the label should be shown for all files
[13:12] <knome> even when it can be dangerous for the system?
[13:12] <ali1234> setting the executable bit on a none-executable file is not dangerous... it cannot be executed by definition
[13:13] <knome> so why should it be set?
[13:13] <knome> or enabled to be set?
[13:13] <ali1234> to prevent the user from becoming confused for the reason you stated
[13:13] <knome> i don't understand
[13:13] <knome> if the bit is only shown for files that can be marked executable, that's fine
[13:14] <ali1234> the bit should always be shown if a file is already marked as executable
[13:14] <knome> i was referring to the label disappearing for a single file after you remove the bit
[13:14] <ali1234> therefore, in order to be consistent, it should always be shown for all files
[13:14] <knome> no, because there is no reason why some files would be marked executable
[13:15] <knome> why give the user an option that has no effect on anything?
[13:15] <knome> clean UI/not too many configuration options has always been a target for xfce
[13:15] <knome> so why would this situation be any different?
[13:15] <knome> if you want to make a script executable, use a valid markup so it's recognised as a script
[13:16] <knome> if you don't have to do that, you can dump whatever in a script and then run it
[13:16] <knome> and for plain text files, even if they "can't be run", they could potentially still be dangerous if marked executable
[13:17] <knome> what if a file looked like it was just text
[13:17] <ali1234> ultimately because a file manager should implement all operations allowed by the operating system
[13:18] <knome> but acutally had a line that did something nasty to your system?
[13:18] <knome> by which definition should it do that?
[13:20] <knome> it is not always useful for the user that a GUI application allows them to do anything and everything that the system allows
[13:20] <knome> and many applications do not allow that all
[13:20] <knome> and that's fine
[13:21] <knome> will be on/off from now, preparing lunch/dinner
[13:28] <flocculant> so - just that Dolphin allows the option and Thunar doesn't - not a bug
[13:31] <ali1234> it's certainly not a bug, just a design choice
[13:32] <flocculant> yep
[19:29] <flocculant> bluesabre: any reason that menu items are unremovable with menulibre? bug 1513590
[19:36] <knome> flocculant, known!!!
[19:37] <knome> well actually
[19:37] <knome> nope
[19:37] * knome retracts
[19:37] <flocculant> really - well I can't see the bug?
[19:37] * flocculant does that too :D
[19:37] <flocculant> I did look :p
[19:37] <knome> bug 1341447 ?
[19:38] <knome> bug 1444668 ?
[19:38] <knome> sigh
[19:38] <knome> bug 1444668
[19:38] <knome> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/menulibre/+bug/1444668
[19:38] <flocculant> not really - doesn't crash here - just refuses to do what it says it will do :)
[19:39] <flocculant> private bug I guess
[19:39] <knome> not
[19:39] <knome> oh
[19:39] <knome> it is
[19:39] <knome> sigh
[19:39] <flocculant> :)
[19:39] * knome sees if there is actually anything private
[19:41] <knome> bug 1444668
[19:41] <flocculant> again a crash - not seeing it crash here
[19:43] <knome> commented on the bug
[19:44] <knome> oh,
[19:44] <knome> you are talking about it in #xubuntu
[19:44] <knome> SNEAKY
[19:44] <knome> :P
[19:45] <flocculant> :D
[20:01] <flocculant> bit more info on it now too
[20:02] * flocculant hopes he got the unknowable knome likes it this way docbook syntax right this time :p
[20:02] <knome> that sentence made no sense :P
[20:02] <flocculant> \o/
[20:03] <flocculant> that's because moveable punctuation :p
[20:05] <knome> :P
[20:08] <knome> flocculant, at least i like the IDs now <3
[20:09] <flocculant> :D
[20:10] <flocculant> why is lp:xubuntu-docs/utopic not gone?
[20:11] * flocculant wanders off to package tracker where it makes some sense :D
[20:12] <knome> flocculant, lp:xubuntu-docs/saucy isn't gone either
[20:12] <knome> now utopic shouldn't appear any more on regular lists
[20:13] <flocculant> you're right :)
[21:06] <SwissBot> feed xubuntu-docs had 8 updates, showing the latest 3
[21:43] <knome> Unit193, hm.. can we change the output format for SwissBot?
[22:40] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:40] <bluesabre> flocculant: fun!
[22:41] <bluesabre> I'll start reviewing bugs and kicking tires this weekend
[23:07] <Unit193> knome: Not sure what you mean.
[23:09] <knome> Unit193, the notice format
[23:10] <knome> it's now ::branch:: [fixes] r### Description... (by Committer)
[23:11] <Unit193> That's because it's what the RSS feed shows.
[23:11] <knome> aha.
[23:24] <krytarik> knome: I'll hazard a guess and say we could spare all the stuff at the top here, and just have it in the index file - no?: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/xenial/view/head:/desktop-guide/C/administrative-tasks.xml
[23:25] <knome> tbh, i'm not sure if that would still let us validate all of the files
[23:25] <knome> but if yes, then i'm happy to do that
[23:29] <tracker5> Hi, I was trying to report a bug in the Xubuntu 16.04 installer
[23:29] <knome> 16.04?
[23:30] <tracker5> Yes, I downloaded the alpha from cdimage
[23:31] <knome> it's pre-alpha really
[23:31] <knome> what's the "bug" you found?
[23:31] <tracker5> I initially tried to install by bypassing the live CD, and the installer hung near the very end of the process (something to do with my old packages)
[23:32] <tracker5> the installed system wouldn't let me do anything besides move the mouse on blank desktop!
[23:32] <knome> well... it's pre-alpha
[23:32] <tracker5> So i reinstalled from the live CD and it worked, but all my previous packages weren't there (which is likely deliberate)
[23:33] <tracker5> I totally understand that it's at a pre-alpha state. just thought somebody might like to be aware of that!
[23:33] <knome> you're describing two different things here, upgrade and a clean install
[23:33] <knome> well, anybody who installs a pre-alpha operating system should know they might mess up their system.
[23:33] <tracker5> initially it was an upgrade
[23:33] <tracker5> when i reinstalled using live CD it was also an upgrade
[23:34] <tracker5> I was totally prepared for possibly messing it up
[23:34] <tracker5> but seems to work well now that i've reinstalled the missing packages
[23:35] <krytarik> knome: Nope, doesn't work without. :P
[23:36] <knome> krytarik, yeah :P
[23:36] <knome> krytarik, unfortunately...
[23:37] <Unit193> tracker5: For what it's worth, we don't usually touch the installer, it's the one from Ubuntu. I've not heard an issue about that though.
[23:41] <tracker5> ok
[23:41] <Unit193> (The installer is 'ubiquity')
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-nl
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[18:43] <TheEagerPadawan> tijdje geleden dat ik nog een statish ip heb ingesteld in op ubuntu - is ifconfig een deftige manier om dit te doen of ga je best via /etc/network/interfaces
[18:48] <SCHAAP137> TheEagerPadawan: eigenlijk zou het met het 'ip' commando moeten, maar in de praktijk gebruikt men dat niet veel
[18:48] <SCHAAP137> ah, is al weg
[18:58] <lordievader> SCHAAP137: TheEagerPadawan is er weer ;)
[18:59] <TheEagerPadawan> the linux side is strong with this one ;)
[18:59] <TheEagerPadawan> tijdje geleden dat ik nog een statish ip heb ingesteld in op ubuntu - is ifconfig een deftige manier om dit te doen of ga je best via /etc/network/interfaces
[18:59] <TheEagerPadawan> wifi dropped :(
[19:00] <SCHAAP137> [19:48:29] <SCHAAP137> TheEagerPadawan: eigenlijk zou het met het 'ip' commando moeten, maar in de praktijk gebruikt men dat niet veel
[19:01] <SCHAAP137> meeste mensen doen gewoon met het handje in /etc/network/interfaces, idd TheEagerPadawan
[19:02] <lordievader> +1 voor ip
[19:02] <SCHAAP137> ip is cool
[19:04] <lordievader> Idd
[19:04] <SCHAAP137> mooi spul
[19:07] <TheEagerPadawan> dat weten we dan ook weer ;)
[19:07] <SCHAAP137> vooral de "oneliner" optie van ip is relaxed
[19:07] <SCHAAP137> ip -o addr, ip -o link
[19:09] <TheEagerPadawan> go on ;)
[19:10] <SCHAAP137> lekker simpele output die je weer mooi kunt filteren / doorgooien in scriptjes
[21:06] <poorte> hi
[21:08] <poorte> ik ben totaal nieuw in linux en ik probeer het zo veel mogelijk te begrijpen, maar kan iemand mij helpen met ssh? en dan zit ik vooral met de vraag waarom ik niet op mijn externe ip-adres verbinding kan maken met mijn server.
[21:09] <poorte> ik heb de poorten goed nagekeken poort 22 geopend op server de firewall geopend en poort 22 doorgelaten. op het interne adres werkt alles naar behoren maar op het externe adres niet.
[21:32] <OerHeks> poort op uw modem/router instellen, is ook belangrijk, niet alleen op de server
[21:33] <OerHeks> dan werkt het vanaf 'buiten'
[21:37] <poorte> bedankt voor je reactie. Ik heb de poort 22 opengezet en nog werkt het niet.
[21:37] <poorte> Overigens probeer in net intern te verbinden met ssh en werkt dat ook niet meer :$
[21:38] <poorte> wat zijn de punten waar ik op moet letten? firewall router, firewall server, enz
[21:39] <SCHAAP137> poorte: probeer je van binnenuit, op je lokale netwerk, te verbinden met jouw externe IP-adres? wat leidt naar datzelfde netwerk waar je al in zit?
[21:40] <poorte> nee ik probeer nu op mijn interne adres te verbinden met mijn server dus interne adres
[21:40] <SCHAAP137> is openssh-server wel geรฏnstalleerd op die machine?
[21:41] <poorte> ja dat heb ik uitgevoerd. met command sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:43] <SCHAAP137> dus, even als voorbeeld, jouw PC is 192.168.1.10, en die server is 192.168.1.11 ? zelfde subnet, op dezelfde router?
[21:43] <OerHeks> intern werkt het wel ..
[21:44] <OerHeks> nu niet meer ..
[21:44] <OerHeks> denk denk
[21:44] <OerHeks> herstart ssh sever na de routeractie
[21:44] <poorte> thnx ga ik proberen!
[21:44] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[21:45] <OerHeks> key/passwors en user allow zijn wel handig, en fail2ban omdat je extern toelaat op een standaard poort.
[21:45] <OerHeks> *passwords
[21:46] <OerHeks> poort 22 = china :-D
[21:46] <poorte> ja i know thnx
[21:49] <OerHeks> en je firewall, iptables ..
[21:50] <OerHeks> misschien is daar je probleem.
[21:50] <OerHeks> wat is de output van sudo iptables -S
[21:52] <poorte> wow een behoorlijke lijst
[21:52] <poorte> maar daar word ik helaas niet veel wijzer van.
[21:52] <poorte> firewall staat goed overigens poorten staat open
[21:54] <poorte> ik ga de gehele pagina hier boven nog een keer doornemen.
[21:57] <poorte> thnx voor je advies!
[22:00] <OerHeks> succes
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-co
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[01:35] <Ubuntero|Roger> buenas noches
[01:36] <Ubuntero|Roger> algien que me pueda ayudar con un gran problema, estoy tratando de configurar un servidor ubuntu 14.04 con lamp, le instale wordpress pero en la red local se evidencia el wordpress bien, pero en una red externa osea con ip fija no se evidencia sino solo el texto
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[02:26] <rick_h__> cmaloney: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tex-yoda
[02:26] <rick_h__> have to sign in to see it :(
[13:42] <cmaloney> Morning
[13:42] <_stink_> yo
[20:02] <jgransden> anyone here familiar with sphinx and rst?
[20:03] <jgransden> i cannot seem to figure out how to have it give me a backslash character
[20:04] <jgransden> if i escape it with another \ it will give me a | in my html output
[20:10] <jrwren> a tiny bit.
[20:17] <cmaloney> Sphinx and RST are a real pain in the ass
[20:18] <jgransden> ha.. gotta use 3 \.. apperently like sed
[20:18] <cmaloney> yeah
[20:18] <jgransden> so \\\ gives me one \
[20:18] <jgransden> i spent far too much time figuring that out
[20:19] <jgransden> i spent far too much time figuring that out
[20:19] <cmaloney> We use Sphix and RST here at work (Python shop) and every time it is frustrating
[20:20] <jrwren> that is weird
[20:20] <jrwren> sounds like a double escape, but it shouldn't be.
[20:21] <cmaloney> In "feeling old" news, Queensryche Empire was released 25 years ago
[20:21] <cmaloney> not sure of exact date
[20:24] <jgransden> i remember that comming out.
[20:24] <jgransden> i liked me some queensryche back in the day
[20:25] <cmaloney> Same
[20:26] <jgransden> most of the newer stuff is crap, though i though opperation mindcrime 2 was ok
[20:26] <cmaloney> I didn't like OM:2
[20:26] <cmaloney> Felt unnecessary
[20:27] <cmaloney> Returned a defective disc and never picked it up again
[20:28] <cmaloney> Didn't need a follow-up that Nikki got out, was still discouraged, decided to kill Doctor X, succeeded, and was still a fucked up little man
[20:29] <jgransden> i just liked that the music was more like their old prog-rock stuff, less like their new shit-rock stuff
[20:30] <jgransden> but the album after went right back to shit-rock
[20:30] <cmaloney> Promised land was their last solid album
[20:30] <cmaloney> Hear in the Now... was passable.
[20:36] <jgransden> i diddnt really like either of those. But i think those came out when i was in my hardcore/metalcore days, so my perception was askew then
[22:05] <cmaloney> heh
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:52] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:02] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.379138
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2015-11-05-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[07:59] <Unit193> Hah, wow the irony: https://torrentfreak.com/orwell-estate-sends-copyright-takedown-over-the-number-1984-151027/
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.380218
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-ir
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[10:39] <dashkalam> slm
[10:39] <dashkalam> man ye laptop z500 daram
[10:39] <dashkalam> lenovo
[10:39] <dashkalam> ti sitesh driverhaye nvidia baraye ubunto nist
[10:39] <dashkalam> az koja gir biyaram
[10:39] <dashkalam> ?
[21:58] <dashkalam> hi
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.382276
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-se
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[08:54] <HeMan> Morrn!
[08:59] <Barre> morrn morrn, sรฅ.. hur mรฅnga ungar bรถrjade grรฅta i lรถrdags?
[08:59] <Barre> HeMan: ^
[09:00] <SebastianThorn> jag grรคt lite
[09:06] <HeMan> Barre: hmm, ingen tror jag
[09:06] <HeMan> Barre: men ett gรคng sprang ivรคg innan de ens sรฅg dockan...
[09:12] <Anarieth> Barre: Jag skrรคmde min beskรคrda del av ungar. Skelettmask och buskage รคr effektivt nรคr det รคr mรถrkt :P
[09:14] <Barre> HeMan: meh... sรฅ mycket jobb, och sรฅ lite frukt...
[09:14] <Barre> Anarieth: :)
[09:28] <HeMan> Barre: fast det var ju jobbet som var frukten!
[09:29] <HeMan> Barre: att man fick skrรคmma nรฅgra barn var bara nรฅgon form av tรคckmanteln fรถr att fรฅ nรถrda
[09:31] <Barre> HeMan: du har fel prioriteringar, skrรคmma barn bรถr alltid vara hรถgst pรฅ priolistan ;)
[09:37] <NeverW8> x)
[18:32] <Hund> haha
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[16:53] <Pici> .
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[03:00] <nhaines> #startmeeting
[03:00] <darthrobot> Meeting started Mon Nov 2 03:00:45 2015 UTC. The chair is nhaines. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[03:00] <nhaines> Well, it's meeting time again tonight!
[03:01] <nhaines> Tonight's agenda is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15November01
[03:01] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15November01 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[03:01] <nhaines> Who's around for the meeting? :)
[03:03] <jbermudes> Hello :)
[03:04] <nhaines> o hai!
[03:04] <nhaines> Okay, I guess we'll hold the metting after all. :)
[03:04] <nhaines> #topic Upcoming events
[03:04] <nhaines> New things might be happening and this is where you get to say them!
[03:04] <DonkeyHotei> are there any?
[03:05] <nhaines> Ubuntu Online Summit starts on Saturday.
[03:05] <nhaines> http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[03:05] <darthrobot> Title: [Home | The Summit Scheduler]
[03:05] <DonkeyHotei> is that what replaced uds?
[03:05] <nhaines> Or more specifically, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/
[03:05] <darthrobot> Title: [UOS November 2015 03 Nov - 05 Nov 2015 | The Summit Scheduler]
[03:05] <nhaines> Yes.
[03:06] <nhaines> I'll be hosting a session on Tuesday to gather ideas for the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase for xenial.
[03:06] <nhaines> And we'll be holding our weekly Ubucon Summit planning talk in public on Wednesday.
[03:07] <nhaines> Meanwhile, SGVLUG is having a 20th anniversary celebration on November 14th, and everyone's invited.
[03:07] <nhaines> jbermudes: any information about that?
[03:07] <jbermudes> Yup! Please RSVP at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/sgvlug-20th-anniversary-party-tickets-18956875525 so we can know how much food to get
[03:07] <darthrobot> Title: [SGVLUG 20th Anniversary Party Tickets, Pasadena | Eventbrite]
[03:08] <jbermudes> There's going to be food, games, prizes, and a look back at the things we've done as a community over the past 20 years
[03:09] <nhaines> Pretty awesome. We sent DVDs and a conference pack over.
[03:09] <jbermudes> Ever since nhaines and Flannel gave a talk there a few years ago there's been a growing number of Ubuntu users there and have even spun off an Ubuntu Hour that meets before each LUG meeting, so Ubuntu is a star in that community, which is why you're all invited :)
[03:10] <nhaines> And the Ubuntu Hour crowd there is a lot of fun. I was glad I drove out to Pasadena early last time before my talk.
[03:11] <nhaines> #topic Announcements
[03:11] <nhaines> It's about time to start thinking about holding LoCo leadership elections again.
[03:11] <nhaines> I plan to open the nomination period starting on November 15th, and then after two weeks we'll vote.
[03:13] <DonkeyHotei> it's been a light year for the loco
[03:14] <nhaines> Are there any other announcements?
[03:17] <nhaines> #topic Agenda items
[03:17] <nhaines> There are no items on this meeting's agenda.
[03:17] <nhaines> #topic Other business
[03:17] <nhaines> Anything else before we wrap things up tonight?
[03:18] <DonkeyHotei> have there been announcements about the convergence device?
[03:18] <nhaines> No.
[03:22] <nhaines> Okay our next meeting is November 15th! I'll see you all there!
[03:22] <nhaines> #endmeeting
[03:22] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Nov 2 03:22:31 2015 UTC.
[03:22] <darthrobot> Minutes: http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2015/ubuntu-us-ca.2015-11-02-03.00.moin.txt
[06:22] <pleia2> sorry I missed the meeting, busy and chaos since finally getting home yesterday
[19:02] <ianorlin> pleia2: +1 I basically ended up crashing at 4pm yesterday
[19:03] <ianorlin> Then ended up eating something and being really hungry hnd having to help my dad
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[02:15] <Fobo7> Hiall
[08:36] <pG239> !help
[08:36] <ubuntuhelp> ะัะธะฒะตั, ั ะปัะฑะธะผัะน ะธะฝัะพะฑะพั ะบะฐะฝะฐะปะฐ #ubuntu-ru, ะะฐะบ ะผะตะฝั ะธัะฟะพะปัะทะพะฒะฐัั? ะัะพััะพ ะฝะฐะฟะธัะธัะต: ![ls/mc/man/fdisk] ะธะปะธ ![ATI/nVidia/etc] ะฒะพั ัะฐะบ. ะะฝะธะผะฐะฝะธะต, ััะพะฑั ะฝะต ะทะฐะปะตัะตัั ะฒ ะธะณะฝะพั/ะฑะฐะฝ, ะธัะฟะพะปัะทัะนัะต ะะ ะะะะข ะธ !search [ATI/nVidia/etc] ัะผ: http://ubuntuhelp.org.ru/
[08:36] <pG239> !encoding
[08:36] <ubuntuhelp> ะ ะผะพะตะน ัะฝัะธะบะปะพะฟะตะดะธะธ ััะพะณะพ ะฝะตั, ะพะดะฝะฐะบะพ ะฟะพัะผะพััะธ ะฝะฐ http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&q='encoding'
[08:36] <pG239> !utf-8
[08:36] <ubuntuhelp> Please, use UTF-8 here. >>> How to configure: http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=19165.0 or use Web Chat: http://ubuntu.ru/irc/webchat
[08:40] <pG239> !motd
[08:40] <ubuntuhelp> ะ ะผะพะตะน ัะฝัะธะบะปะพะฟะตะดะธะธ ััะพะณะพ ะฝะตั, ะพะดะฝะฐะบะพ ะฟะพัะผะพััะธ ะฝะฐ http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&q='motd'
[08:40] <pG239> ััั ะตััั ะบัะพ?
[08:41] <andrex> !askthebot > pG239
[08:41] <ubuntuhelp> pG239, please see my private message
[08:41] <andrex> !ask > pG239
[08:41] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ััะพ? ะณะดะต? ะบัะพ?
[08:42] <pG239> ะฝะตัะถะตะปะธ ะฝะฐัััะพะธะป ะณัะตะฑะฐะฝะฝัะน mirc.
[08:42] <andrex> ะฒัะบะธะฝั ะผะธัั
[08:42] <pG239> ะฐ ัะพ ะธัะฟะพะปัะทะพะฒะฐัั ัะพะณะดะฐ?)
[08:42] <JohnDoe_71Rus> kvirc
[08:43] <andrex> ััะพะดัะบะธะน ะฝะตะดะพะดะตะปะฐะฝัะน ะฒะตะฝะดะพะบะปะธะตะฝั)
[08:43] <pG239> ะธ ะตัะต ะฟะปะฐัะฝัะน..
[08:43] <andrex> ะดะฐ
[08:44] <andrex> !mirc
[08:44] <ubuntuhelp> ะญัะพ ะฑะพะปััะพะต ะทะปะพ. ะกะพะฒะตััะตะผ ะะฐะผ ัะดะฐะปะธัั ััะพ ะฟะพะดะตะปะธะต.
[08:44] <pG239> xD
[08:45] <pG239> ะฟะพะดัะบะฐะถะธัะต ะฝะพัะผ ัะตะผั ะฝะฐ kvirc.
[08:46] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ะฟะพัะธะดะธ ะฝะตะดะตะปัะบั, ะฟัะธะฒัะบะฝะตัั ะบ ะดะตัะพะปัะฝะพะน
[10:13] <tagezi> ัััะฐ ะฒัะตะผ
[10:32] <SergeyIT> ะฝะพัะฑัััะบะพะณะพ
[12:32] <pG239> ะบัะพ ะฝะธะฑัะดั ะฟัะพะณัะฐะผะผะธัะพะฒะฐะป ะดะปั android ะฝะฐ vim'ะต? xD
[15:14] <andrex> ะณัะธะฝ ะดะฐัะพัั :D
[15:14] <andrex> @kernel
[15:14] <ubuntuhelp> The latest stable kernel is 4.2.5; the latest snapshot of the stable kernel is unknown; the latest beta kernel is 4.3.
[15:24] <pG239> ะฒะพะพะฑัะต, ะตััั ะตัะต ะถะธะฒัะต ัะฐัั ะฒ ะธััะต?
[15:24] <andrex> ะณะดะตัะพ ะผะพะถะตั ะตััั
[15:30] <SergeyIT> pG239, #ubuntu
[15:30] <pG239> ะธะผะตะฝะฝะพ ััััะบะธะต..
[15:32] <andrex> ะฐะบัะธะฒะฝัะต ััััะบะธะต ะธัั ะฑัะปะธ ะบะพะณะดะฐัะพ ะธ ะฝะตะฑัะปะธ ะฟัะตะดะฝะพะทะฝะฐัะตะฝั ะดะปั ัะตัะตะฝะธั ัะตั
ะฝะธัะตัะบะธั
ะฒะพะฟัะพัะพะฒ ะฐ ัะบะพัะตะต ะดะปั ะดััะณะพะณะพ) (ัะฐะปะฐะฑะพะปัััะฒั ะฝะต ะพัะตะผ ั ััะฟัะผะธ ะทะฒะตะทะดะฐะผะธ ั ะดะฐะปัะฝะตะนัะธะผะธ ะฟะพัะปะตะดััะฒะธัะผะธ)
[15:32] <andrex> ะธ ะพะฝะธ ะฑะปะฐะณะพะฟะพะปััะฝะพ ะฒัะผะตัะปะธ ะฟะพััะธ ะฒัะต
[15:32] <andrex> ั ะฟะพัะฒะปะตะฝะธะตะผ ัะพั ัะตัะตะน
[15:33] <buriedalive> ะฟัะฐะฒะธะปัะฝะพ, ะฟัััั ะฟัะพะดะพะปะถะฐัั ัะฐะปะฐะฑะพะปัััะฒะพ ะฒ ัะพััะตััั
[15:33] <pG239> ะฝั ะดะฐ, ัะพ ะฒะบะพะฝัะธะบะพะผ ะฝะต ะฝัะถะฝะพ ะผะพัะพัะธัััั ะธ ะฒะฒะพะดะธัั ะฒััะบะธะต ะบะพะผะฐะฝะดั ัะธะฟะฐ /msg ะธ ั.ะฟ.
[15:34] <pG239> ะตััั ะบัะพ ะฟัะพะณัะฐะผะผะธััะตั ะดะปั android?
[15:36] <andrex> #android-dev
[15:36] <andrex> ัะต ัะฐะผ
[15:39] <andrex> pG239: ะผะพะถะตั ัะฟัะพัะธัั ะตััั ะฝะฐะฒะตัะฝะพะต ะธ ััััะบะธะต ะตัะปะธ ั ะฐะฝะณะปะธะนัะบะธะผ ะฝะต ะฑัะผะฑัะผ)
[15:41] <pG239> andrex: ัะฟะฐัะธะฑะพ ะฑะพะปััะพะต
[15:41] <pG239> ัะฐ ะฟะพัะผะพััะธะผ
[15:47] <tagezi> ั ะถัะผะฐั ะฝัะถะฝะพ ะฝะฐั=ัะธะฝะฐัั ั ะธััะตะฝะธั Vim
[15:47] <tagezi> ะฝะฐัะธะฝะฐัั*
[15:47] <andrex> ัะณั ัะฐะผ ะบะฐะบ ะพัั ัะฒะพั)
[15:50] <pG239> ะฟะพะผะฝั ะบะฐะบ-ัะพ ัะบะฐัะฐะป, ะฝะตะดะตะปัะบั ะฟะพะฟะพะปัะทะพะฒะฐะปัั ะธ ัะดะฐะปะธะป.. ัะตะณะพะดะฝั ะฟัะธัะปะฐ ะผััะปั ะพะฟััั ัััะฐะฝะพะฒะธัั, ะฒะพั ัะตะนัะฐั ะฝะฐัััะฐะธะฒะฐั, ั
ะพัะพัะฐั ัััะบะฐ.
[15:52] <tagezi> ะบะฐะบ ะผะพะถะฝะพ ัะดะฐะปะธัั Vim? ะพ_ะ ััะพ ะถะต ะฟะพััะธ ะบะฐะบ ะฟัะตะดะฐัั ัะพะดะธะฝั )
[15:54] <pG239> tagezi: ะดะฐ ะฟัะธั
ะฐะฝัะป ั.. ะฝะต ะผะพะณ ะฟัะธะฒัะบะฝััั ะบ hjkl ะธ ะบ ะดััะณะธะผ ัะธัะฐะผ..
[15:56] <tagezi> ััะฐะฒะธัั 2 ะผะพะฝะธัะพัะฐ, ะฝะฐ ะพะดะธะฝ ะพะฑะพะธะฝั ะฒ ะบะพะผะฐะฝะดะฐะผะธ, ะฝะฐ ะดััะณะพะผ ัะฐะฑะพัะฐะตั.. ะฝะตั ะผะพะฝะธัะพัะฐ, ัะฐัะฟะตัะฐัะฐะน ะฟะพะฒะตัั ะฟะตัะตะด ะผะพะถัะพะน... ะฝะตะดะตะปั ะพัะฝะพะฒะฝัะต ะบะพะผะฐะฝะดั ัั ะทะฝะฐะตัั.. ะฟะพั1ะป ัะธัะฐัั ะฟัะพ ะฒะธะผัะบัะธะฟั, ะธ ะฟะพะฝัะป, ััะพ ะฒะตัั ะผะธั ัััะฐะดะฐะตั ัััะฐัะฝัะผ ัััะฐะดะฐะฝะธะตะผ, ะฐ ัั ัะตะฟะตัั ะพะฑะปะฐะดะฐัะตะปั
[15:56] <tagezi> ะฝะตัะฒะฐะฝั )
[15:57] <tagezi> ะดะตะปะพะฒ-ัะพ.. 2 ะฝะตะตะปะธ ะธ ัั ััะฟะตัะผะตะฝ-ัะตะดะฐะบัะพั )
[15:58] <pG239> tagezi: ะพั, ัะตะฟะตัั ัะพัะฝะพ vim ะฝะต ะทะฐะบะธะฝั)
[16:00] <pG239> tagezi: ะฝะฐ ัะตะผ ะบะพะดะธัั?
[16:01] <tagezi> ัะตะนัะฐั ะฝะฐ XML =))
[16:01] <tagezi> ะฐ ะบะพะฝะบัะตัะฝะพ ะฝะฐ XHP
[16:01] <pG239> web?
[16:02] <tagezi> ะฝะตั, ัะฟัะฐะฒะบะฐ
[16:02] <tagezi> ั
ะตะปะฟั ะฟะธัั ะดะปั ะะ
[16:05] <pG239> keek
[16:41] <SmOkE_RU> ะััะทัั, ะตััั ะปะธ ะฐะฝะฐะปะพะณะธ CloudLinux ? ะะปะธ ััะพ-ัะพ ะฟะพะดะพะฑะฝะพะต ะผะพะถะตัะต ะฟะพัะพะฒะตัะพะฒะฐัั ?
[16:54] <andrex> BetterLinux Jailshell ubuntucloud ัะท ัะต ะตัะต
[17:50] <SmOkE_RU> andrex, ะกะฟะฐัะธะฑะพัะบะธ
[17:55] <tagezi> ะพััะพะฟะธะบ ) http://fontanka.fi/articles/23792/
[19:13] <Sergey_IT> ะฒะตัะตัะฐ
[19:16] <tagezi> ััะผะฝะพะณะพ )
[19:24] <Sergey_IT> ัะบะพัะตะน ะฑั ัะฝะตะณ ะปะตะณ... ะฟะพัะฒะตัะปะตะปะพ ะฑั
[19:24] <andrex> ะณะพ ะบ ะฝะฐะผ)
[19:34] <tagezi> Sergey_IT: ั ะฝะธั
ะบััะฐัะธ ะณะพัะบะธ ะตััั
[19:34] <tagezi> ะฟะพะบะฐัะฐัััั ะผะพะถะฝะพ )))
[19:35] <tagezi> ัะฐะผ ะผะพะถะฝะพ ัะบะฐะทะฐัั ััะดะพะผ ะฒะพััะพัะฝัะน ัะฐัะฝ.. ะดะฐ ะธ ะดะพ ั
ัะตะฑัะฐ ัะตััะบะพะณะพ ัะถะต ััะบะพะน ะฟะฐะดะฐัั :D
[19:35] <cl4r1ty7072> )
[19:40] <Sergey_IT> ะณะพัะบะธ - ััะพ ั
ะพัะพัะพ ).... ะฝะพ ั ะบะพะฝัะตะฝะฝัะน ะฟะธัะตััะบะธะน
[19:42] <Sergey_IT> ะดะฐ ะธ ะดะพ ะะปัะฟ ะฑะปะธะถะต
[19:45] <Clockwer> Hello
[19:45] <Clockwer> everyone)
[19:45] <Clockwer> ะัะตะผ ะฟัะธะฒะตั)
[19:45] <Clockwer> ะััั ะบัะพ-ัะพ ะถะธะฒะพะน, ั ะบะพะณะพ ะตััั ะฝะตะผะฝะพะณะพ ัะฒะพะฑะพะดะฝะพะณะพ ะฒัะตะผะตะฝะธ? )
[19:46] <tagezi> !ask
[19:46] <ubuntuhelp> ะะต ัะฟัะฐัะธะฒะฐะนัะต, ะผะพะถะฝะพ ะปะธ ัะฟัะพัะธัั, ยซะตััั ะปะธ ะถะธะฒัะตยป, ยซะบัะพ-ะฝะธะฑัะดั ะธัะฟะพะปัะทะพะฒะฐะปยป ะธ ั.ะฟ. ะัะพััะพ ัะฟัะฐัะธะฒะฐะนัะต. ะัะปะธ ะบัะพ-ะฝะธะฑัะดั ะทะฝะฐะตั โ ะะฐะผ ะพัะฒะตััั. ะัะปะธ ะฝะธะบัะพ ะฝะต ะพัะฒะตัะฐะตั โ ะทะฝะฐัะธั, ะฒะพะทะผะพะถะฝะพ, ะฝะธะบัะพ ะฝะต ะทะฝะฐะตั, ะธะปะธ ะฒัะต ัะฟัั.
[19:46] <Clockwer> !ask
[19:46] <tagezi> ั
ะพัั ะฝะต, ะฝะตั , ะฒัะต ัะฟัั
[19:47] <Clockwer> ะพะฑัััะฝะธัะต ะฟะพะถะฐะปัะนััะฐ ัะผััะป ะบะพะผะฐะฝะดั sudo ln -s
[19:47] <lb426> Clockwer: ัะพะทะดะฐัั ัะธะผะฒะพะปัะฝัั ัััะปะบั ั ะฟัะฐะฒะฐะผะธ ัััะฐ
[19:48] <lb426> Clockwer: ะฟัะฐะฒะธะปัะฝะพ ัะฐะบ sudo ln -s filename linkname
[19:49] <tagezi> lb426: ะฝะตั, ะฟัะฐะฒะธะปัะฝะพ ัะฐะบ man sudo
[19:50] <andrex> !sudo
[19:50] <ubuntuhelp> sudo โ ะบะพะผะฐะฝะดะฐ ะดะปั ะทะฐะฟััะบะฐ ะฟัะพะณัะฐะผะผ ั ะฟัะธะฒะธะปะตะณะธัะผะธ ััะฟะตัะฟะพะปัะทะพะฒะฐัะตะปั (root). ะะพะปะตะต ะฟะพะดัะพะฑะฝัั ะธะฝัะพัะผะฐัะธั ะั ะผะพะถะตัะต ะฝะฐะนัะธ ะฝะฐ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo . Sudo ะดะปั !GUI ะฟัะธะปะพะถะตะฝะธะน: !Gksu (Gnome, XFCE), !Kdesudo (KDE).
[19:50] <andrex> !ln
[19:50] <ubuntuhelp> Ln โ ะธะฝััััะผะตะฝั ะดะปั ัะพะทะดะฐะฝะธั ัััะปะพะบ. ะัะธะผะตั: ln -s /abc /def
[19:50] <Clockwer> !ln -s
[19:50] <ubuntuhelp> ะ ะผะพะตะน ัะฝัะธะบะปะพะฟะตะดะธะธ ััะพะณะพ ะฝะตั, ะพะดะฝะฐะบะพ ะฟะพัะผะพััะธ ะฝะฐ http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&q='ln -s'
[19:50] <tagezi> man ln
[19:50] <tagezi> ัะพ ะฑะพัะฐ-ัะพ ะผััะฐะตัะต?
[19:51] <andrex> ะฝัะฐะฒะธััั
[19:51] <tagezi> ัะฐะดะธัั
[19:51] <UNIm95> lb426: ะขั ะฝะต ะฟัะฐะฒ
[19:52] <Clockwer> ะตัะต ะฒะพะฟัะพั, ะผะฝะต ะฝัะถะฝะพ ัััะฐะฝะพะฒะธัั ะฟะฐะบะตั , ะฒะฒะพะถั sudo pip install supervisord
[19:52] <Clockwer> ะทะฐัะตะผ sudo sh -c 'echo_supervisord_conf > /etc/supervisord.conf' ะธ ะฟะพะปััะฐั ะพัะธะฑะบั
[19:52] <Clockwer> sh: 1: echo_supervisord_conf: not found
[19:53] <andrex> ะตััะตััะฒะตะฝะฝะพ
[19:53] <lb426> UNIm95: ะฟะพัะตะผั?
[19:53] <andrex> ะฒะฐัะต touch supervisord.conf
[19:54] <andrex> ะธะฒะฐัะต ะฟะพัะผะพััะตัั ัะฝะฐัะฐะปะฐ ะผะพะตั ะพะฝะพ ัะฐะผ ะตััั
[19:54] <UNIm95> lb426: ะขะฐะบ ะฟะพะทะฒะพะปัะตััั ัะพะทะดะฐัั ัะธะผะฒะพะปัะฝัั ัััะปะบั ะฝะฐ ััะพ-ะปะธะฑะพ ะฝะต ะธะผะตั ะฟัะฐะฒ ะทะฐะฟะธัะธ ะฒ ะบะฐัะฐะปะพะณ.
[19:55] <Clockwer> !help
[19:55] <ubuntuhelp> ะัะธะฒะตั, ั ะปัะฑะธะผัะน ะธะฝัะพะฑะพั ะบะฐะฝะฐะปะฐ #ubuntu-ru, ะะฐะบ ะผะตะฝั ะธัะฟะพะปัะทะพะฒะฐัั? ะัะพััะพ ะฝะฐะฟะธัะธัะต: ![ls/mc/man/fdisk] ะธะปะธ ![ATI/nVidia/etc] ะฒะพั ัะฐะบ. ะะฝะธะผะฐะฝะธะต, ััะพะฑั ะฝะต ะทะฐะปะตัะตัั ะฒ ะธะณะฝะพั/ะฑะฐะฝ, ะธัะฟะพะปัะทัะนัะต ะะ ะะะะข ะธ !search [ATI/nVidia/etc] ัะผ: http://ubuntuhelp.org.ru/
[19:56] <andrex> ะผะฝะต ะธะฝัะตัะตัะฝะพ ะฟะพ ะบะฐะบะพะผั ะฝะฐะฝั ัั ัะฐะผ ัะตะณะพ ะบะพะปั
ะพะทะธั?
[19:56] <andrex> ั
[19:56] <tagezi> ะผ
[19:56] <andrex> ะฝั ะดะฐ
[19:56] <andrex> ัะฒะตั ะฝะฐะดะฐ ะฒะบะปััะธัั)
[19:57] <Clockwer> ะ ะตััั ะบัะพ-ัะพ ะบัะพ ะฟะพะผะพะถะตั ะฝะตะผะฝะพะณะพ ั ัััะฐะฝะพะฒะบะพะน ั ะณะธัั
ะฐะฑะฐ, ัะฐะบ ัะบะฐะทะฐัั ะทะฐ ะฑัััะปะบั ะฟะธะฒะฐ?
[19:57] <andrex> ั ะฝะต ะฟะพะผะพะณั)
[19:58] <andrex> ัะฐะผ ะตััั reame ะธ install ัะธัะฐะน ะธั
[19:58] <andrex> readme
[19:58] <andrex> ะฟะฟั
[19:59] <Clockwer> ะฝั ะตัะปะธ ะฑั ะพะฝะธ ะฑัะปะธ ะฝะฐะฟะธัะฐะฝั ะฟะพะฝััะฝะพ, ัะพ ะฒัะตะผะธ ะบะพะผะฐะฝะดะฐะผะธ, ั ะฑั ัะดะตะปะฐะป ัะฐะผ ะธ ะฝะต ะทะฐะดะฐะฒะฐะป ะฒะพะฟัะพัั ะธ ะฝะต ะฟัะพัะธะป ะพ ะฟะพะผะพัะธ.
[20:01] <Clockwer> ััะพ ะฝะต ะธะฝะดะตะนัะฐ ัััะฐะฝะพะฒะธัั....
[20:03] <andrex> ะฒะตััะธั ะฑัะฝัั ะฒ ัััะดะธั
[20:04] <andrex> ะฟะพัะพะผั ััะพ ะตัะปะธ ัะฐะผ ัะธััะตะผ ะด ัะพ ััะพั ััะฟะตัะฒะธะทะพัะด ะฝะฐัะธะณ ะฝะตะฝัะถะตะฝ
[20:04] <Clockwer> 14.04
[20:08] <andrex> apt-get install supervisor
[20:09] <andrex> ะฒัะต
[20:09] <Clockwer> ะฐ ะทะฐัะตะผ ัะฐะบะธะต ัะปะพะถะฝัะต ะบะพะผะฐะฝะดั ะฟัะตะดะปะฐะณะฐะตั? )
[20:09] <andrex> ะธะปะธ ะฒะพัั https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-manage-supervisor-on-ubuntu-and-debian-vps
[20:10] <andrex> ัะท ัะต ัั ัะฐะผ ะฝะฐััะป
[20:10] <andrex> ะพะฟััั ะฝะฐ ั
ะฐะฑัะต ััั ะบะฐะบัััะพ)
[20:11] <Clockwer> ั
ะฐะฑั ะฝะต ะฟัะธ ัะตะผ
[20:16] <Clockwer> ะตัะต ะฒะพะฟัะพั, ััะพ ะทะฐ ะพัะธะฑะบะฐ? ImportError: No module named settings
[20:51] <Sergey_IT> ะฟะพัะผะพััะตะป vim ะธ ะฝะต ะฟะพะฝัะป, ัะตะณะพ ะฒ ะฝะตะผ ั
ะพัะพัะตะณะพ (
[20:53] <tagezi> Sergey_IT: ะฐ ัั ััะพ ัะฐะผ ัะฐััะธััะฒะฐะป ัะฒะธะดะตัั, ะ ะตะณะธะฝั ะัะฑะพะฒะธัะบัั? )))
[21:01] <Sergey_IT> ะะตััะพััะฝะฐ ะถะต ))
[21:01] <Sergey_IT> ะธ ะฟะพััะธ ัะฒะธะดะตะป
[21:03] <Sergey_IT> ะฒัะฟะพะผะฝะธะป ัะตะดะฐะบัะพัั ed, ked, k52 (ะธ ัะฒะพะน ะฐะฝะฐะปะพะณะธัะฝัะน ะบ75)
[21:06] <tagezi> Sergey_IT: ะฒะธะผ ัะดะพะฑะตะฝ ะฟัะธ ัะตะดะฐะบัะธัะพะฒะฐะฝะธะธ, ะฒะพัะฝะพะฒะฝะพะผ ะทะฐ ััะตั ัะพะณะพ ััะพ ะฟะพะทะฒะพะปัะตั ะฝะตัะบะพะปัะบะธะผะธ ะฝะฐะถะฐัะธัะผะธ ะฟัะตะพะฑัะฐะทะพะฒะฒัะฒะฐัั ัะฐะนะปั ะฟะพะด ัะฐะฑะปะพะฝ, ััะฐะฒะปััั ัะฐะฑะปะพะฝั, ะผะตะฝััั ัััะพะบะธ/ะฑะปะพะบะธ ะผะตััะฐะผะธ, ัะฐะฑะพัะฐัั ั ะฑััะตัะฐะผะธ ะบะฐะบ ั ัะฐะนะปะฐะผะธ
[21:06] <tagezi> ัะตะดะฐะบัะธัะพะฒะฐะฝะธะต ััะบะพััะตััั ะฒ ะดะตัััะบะธ ัะฐะท, ะฟะพ ััะฐะฒะฝะตะฝะธั ั ัะพะฒัะตะผะตะฝะฝัะผะธ ะธะดะต
[21:08] <tagezi> ัะฐะบัะธัะตัะบะธ, ะฒ ะฒะธะผ, ัะตะฑั ะพะณัะฐะฝะธัะธะฒะฐะตั ัะพะปัะบะพ ัะฒะพั ัะฐะฝัะฐะทะธั ))
[21:14] <Sergey_IT> ัะฐะบ ััะพ ะพัะตะฝั ัะตะดะบะพ, ะบะพะณะดะฐ ะฝะฐะดะพ... ะฐ ััะธัััั ัะตะดะบะพะผั ะธัะฟะพะปัะทะพะฒะฐะฝะธั ะบะฐะบ ัะพ ะฝะต ั
ะพัะตััั
[21:15] <tagezi> ะบะฐะบ ััะพ ัะตะดะบะพ?
[21:15] <tagezi> ะบะพะณะดะฐ ัะตะดะฐะบัะธััะตัั ัะฐะนะป - ััะพ ะพัะตะฝั ัะฐััะพ ะฝัะถะฝะพ...
[21:16] <Sergey_IT> ะฝั ัะฐะบ ัั ะดะพะบัะผะตะฝัะฐะปััะธะบ, ัะตะฑะต ะฝะฐะดะพ... ะฐ ะฟัะพะณัะฐะผะผะตัั ะฐะฒัะพะผะฐัะธะทะฐัะธั - ัะผะตััั ะบะพะดั
[21:17] <tagezi> ัะพัะพ ะธะผ ะฒะพัะฝะพะฒะฝะพะผ ัะพะปัะบะพ ะฟัะพะณัะฐะผะผะตัั ะธ ะฟะพะปัะทััััั )))
[21:17] <tagezi> ะฐ ั ัะพ ะดัะผะฐั, ััะพ ัะตะนัะฐั ะฝะต ะฝะฐะนัะธ ะฝะต ะพะดะฝะพะน ะฝะต ะณะปะฑัะฐัะตะน ะฟัะพะณัะฐะผะผั )))
[21:17] <Sergey_IT> ััะพ ะบััััะต... ะฑะฐะณะพะฟะธัะฐัะตะปะธ )
[21:18] <tagezi> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19721/ ะฒะพั ะบะฐะบ ััะพ ะผะพะถะฝะพ ะฟัะพะฒะตัะธัั?
[21:18] <tagezi> ั ะฑะพะปััะต ัะตะผ ัะฒะตัะตะฝ, ััะพ ั ะฝะตะณะพ ะดะพัะธะณะธัะฐ ะพะฑัะธะฑะพะบ ะพะฟััั
[21:21] <Sergey_IT> ัะพััะฒััะฒัั...
[21:23] <Sergey_IT> ะฒะพั ััะพ ะฒ ะฒะธะฝ ะฑัะปะพ ั
ะพัะพัะพ, ััะพ ะฟะพะดะดะตัะถะบะฐ ัะทัะบะพะฒัั
ัะตััััะพะฒ - ะฒัะต ะฑัะปะพ ะฒ msdn, ะฟะตัะตะฒะพะดั ะฐะฝะฐะปะพะณะธัะฝัั
ัะพะพะฑัะตะฝะธะน ะฑัะฐะปะธ ะพัััะดะฐ, ััะพะฑั ะฑัะปะพ ะพะดะฝะพะพะฑัะฐะทะธะต... ัะตะนัะฐั ะฝะต ะทะฝะฐ
[21:24] <tagezi> ะฝั, ะฒ pootle ัะฐะบ ะถะต ัะดะตะปะฐะฝะพ
[21:24] <tagezi> ัะพะปัะบะพ ะผะฝะพะณะพะต ะทะฐะฒะธัะธั ะพั ัะฐะผะพะน ััััะบัััั ะดะพะบัะผะตะฝัะพะฒ
[21:25] <tagezi> ะฟะพะดััะฐะฝะพะฒะบะธ ะธ ัะพะฒะตัั ะฝะต ะดะฐัั ะฐะฒัะพะผะฐัะพะผ ะฒะตัะฝัะต ะฟะตัะตะฒะพะดั, ัะฐะผ ะฝะฐะผะฝะพะณะพ ะฑะพะปััะต ะฝัะถะฝะพ
[21:25] <Sergey_IT> ั, ะดะปั ะฟัะพะดัะบัะฐ ะบะพะณะดะฐ-ัะพ ัะดะตะปะฐะป ะฟัะพะณัะฐะผะผั, ะบะพัะพัะฐั ะฟะพะบะฐะทัะฒะฐะปะฐ ะฒ ะณัะฐัะธะบะต ัะตััััั ะฒัะตะณะพ ะฟัะพะตะบัะฐ ะฝะฐ ะฒัะตั
ัะทัะบะฐั
ััะฐะทั
[21:26] <Sergey_IT> ัะพ ะตััั ะบะปะธะบะฐั ะฝะฐ ัะปะตะผะฝะตั ัะฟัะฐะฒะปะตะฝะธั, ัะตะบัั ะฒ ะพะบะฝะต ััะฐะทั ะฒะธะดะธัั ะฒัะต ัะทัะบะธ
[21:28] <Sergey_IT> ะธ ะผะพะถะตัั ัะตะดะฐะบัะธัะพะฒะฐัั
[21:40] <tagezi> ะฑะปะธะฝ, ััะพั ะบัะตะฝะดะตะปั ะดะฐะถะต ะฝะต ัะตััะธััะตั ัะฒะพะธ ะธะทะผะตะฝะตะฝะธั (((
[21:47] <Sergey_IT> ะฝั ะธ ะฑะฐัะดะฐะบ ะถะต ั ะฒะฐั...
[21:53] <tagezi> ััะพ ั ะฝะตะณะพ ะฑะฐัะดะฐะบ, ะฐ ะฝะต ั ะฝะฐั.. ั
ะพัั ั ะดัะผะฐั ัะฐะบ ะฟะพัััะฟะฐะตั ะฟะพะปะพะฒะธะฝะฐ
[21:53] <tagezi> ะธะท-ะทะฐ ััะพะณะพ ัะฐะบ ะผะฝะพะณะพ ะพัะธะฑะพะบ
[21:54] <tagezi> ั ะฝะตะณะพ ะฒะพะพะฑัะต ัะปะตะผะตะฝัะฐัะฝัะต ะพัะธะฑะบะธ, ะบะพัะพััะต ะผะพะถะฝะพ ัะฒะธะดะตัั ะฟัะพััะพ ัะพะฑัะฐะฒ ััะฟัะฐะฒะบั.. ะฟัะธัะตะผ ะพะฝะธ ะฟััะผะพ ะฟัะธ ัะฑะพัะบะต ะธ ะฒะธะดะฝั, ะดะฐะถะต ะฟะพะปะทะฐัั ะฝะต ะฝัะถะฝะพ ะฝะธะบัะดะฐ
[21:54] <tagezi> ะฝะตะปัะทั ะดะตััะบะธะน ัะฐะด ะฟััะบะฐัั ะฒ ัะฐะทัะฐะฑะพััะธะบะธ
[22:17] <Sergey_IT> tagezi, ั ะธ ะณะพะฒะพัั - ะฑะฐัะดะฐะบ, ะฝะตะฟัะพะฒะตัะตะฝะฝัะผ ะปัะดัะผ ะฝะตะปัะทั ะดะฐะฒะฐัั ััะพ-ะปะธะฑะพ ะฟัะฐะฒะธัั
[22:17] <tagezi> Sergey_IT: ะฝั ะณะดะต ัั ะฒะพะทัะผััั ะฟัะพะฒะตัะตะฝัั
ะปัะดะตะน?
[22:22] <Sergey_IT> ั ะฟะพะบะฐ ะฝะต ะฝะฐัะตะป (
[22:22] <Sergey_IT> ะฟะพััะพะผั ัะฐะฑะพัะฐั ะพะดะธะฝ
[22:49] <svetlana> andrex, ัั ะฝะต ะผะพะถะตัั ะฟะพะดัะบะฐะทะฐัั, ัะตะผ ั ะผะพะณั ะฟะพะปัะทะพะฒะฐัััั? ะผะฝะต ะฝะฐะดะพ ััะพ-ัะพ ัะธะฟะฐ issue tracker, ะฝะพ ะฑะพะปะตะต ะฟะพั
ะพะถะตะต ะฝะฐ cms, ัะตะผ ะฝะฐ bugzilla. ั ัะตะนัะฐั ะฟัะพะฑัั ะพัะฒะฐะธะฒะฐัั ikiwiki ะฟะพัะธั
ะพะฝะตัะบั, ะฝะพ ัะฐะผ ะฟะพะบะฐ ะฝะต ะพัะตะฝั ัะพะฒะฟะฐะดะฐะตั ั ะฝัะถะฝะพะน ัะตะปัั.
[22:49] <svetlana> andrex, ะผะพะถะตั ะฑััั, ััะพ-ัะพ ัะธะฟะฐ ะดะธัะตะบัะพัะธะธ, structured data, ัะฐะนั ะบะพัะพััะน ะดะฐัั ัะพะทะดะฐัั ะฑะฐะทั ั ัะบะฐะทะฐะฝะฝัะผะธ ะผะฝะพะน ะฟะพะปัะผะธ (ััะพะฑั ั ะผะพะณะปะฐ ะฝะฐะฒะฐััั ะบะฐัะฐะปะพะณ ะบะฝะธะณ ะธะปะธ ะบะฐัะฐะปะพะณ ะบะพัะตะบ ะธะปะธ ัะตะณะพ ะตัั ะฟะพะฝัะฐะฒะธััั ะธ ะพัะพะฑัะฐะทะธัั ัะฐะฑะปะธัะบั ะธะปะธ ัะฟะธัะพัะตะบ ัะปะตะผะตะฝัะพะฒ, ะพััะพััะธัะพะฒะฐะฝะฝัั
[22:49] <svetlana> ะธ ะฒัะฑัะฐะฝะฝัั
ะฝัะถะฝัะผ ะผะฝะต ะพะฑัะฐะทะพะผ).
[22:49] <svetlana> andrex, ััะพ ะดะปั ัะพะณะพ, ััะพะฑั ัะฐะผะพะน ั
ะพััะธัั, ั.ะต. ะฝะฐะดะพ ะฟะพะปะฝะพัััั ััะพะฑั ะธัั
ะพะดะฝะธะบะธ ะฑัะปะธ.
[22:53] <svetlana> andrex, (ะตััั semantic mediawiki, ะฝะพ ะพะฝะฐ ะฝะต ะพัะตะฝั ะณะธะฑะบะฐั ะฒ ัะผััะปะต ะฟะพะธัะบะฐ ะธ ะพัะพะฑัะฐะถะตะฝะธั ัะตะทัะปััะฐัะพะฒ ัะตัะตะท ะธะฝัะตััะตะนั)
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[00:00] <Musashi73> visto che non sono un esperto chiedo solo consigli
[00:05] <Musashi73> posso farti una domanda?
[00:06] <Musashi73> per fare l'asterisco devo premere questo il per (x) dalla tabella numerica? Inoltre come faccio il simbolo (|) ? quale tasto devo premere?
[00:07] <krabador> come l'hai fatto adesso | ?
[00:07] <krabador> asterisco ce l'hai sopra al +
[00:07] <krabador> non c'รจ la tastiera in italiano?
[00:08] <Musashi73> ma adesso son in windows, quando entro in root dal grub premendo | mi spunta un altro simbolo
[00:08] <Musashi73> si
[00:08] <krabador> prova loadkeys it
[00:08] <krabador> quando sei li dentro
[00:09] <Musashi73> devo digitare qualche comando?
[00:11] <Musashi73> devo digitare loadkeys it ?
[00:30] <Musashi73> krabrador ci sei?
[00:31] <Musashi73> volevo solo ringraziarti, seguendo la tu a procedura e grazie al tuo aiuto sono riuscito a ripristinare il mio Ubuntu
[00:34] <Musashi73> volevo farti solo un'ultima domanda, quale tra queste opzioni mi consigli di scegliere? Grazie
[00:34] <Musashi73> [url=http://postimage.org/][img]http://s29.postimg.org/legfgsrvr/Schermata_del_2015_11_02_01_32_32.png[/img][/url]
[00:34] <Musashi73> [url=http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=italian]upload immagini[/url]
[00:35] <Musashi73> http://postimg.org/image/mti05isyr/
[00:38] <krabador> wei
[00:38] <krabador> allora
[00:39] <krabador> lascialo cosi, usalo con calma
[00:39] <Musashi73> ok, grazie
[00:39] <krabador> fatti un bel backup delle cose ce ti servono
[00:39] <Musashi73> ok
[00:39] <krabador> se hai scaricato la 15.10, fa il supporto di installazione
[00:40] <krabador> dopo aver fatto tutto il backup delle cose che ti servono , fa una bella installazione pulita
[00:40] <Musashi73> ok
[00:40] <krabador> puoi anche far partire la procedura di installazione di 15.10 , segnalando a mano la partizione dov'รจ 15.04
[00:40] <krabador> non settando la formattazione
[00:41] <krabador> ma creando un utente con un altro nome
[00:41] <krabador> alla fine ti troveresti dentro la cartella home , l'utente che userai in 15.10, e la cartella dell'utente che usavi in 15.04
[00:41] <Musashi73> va bene, per me รจ importante che giร sono riuscito a farlo partire
[00:41] <krabador> in modo da passarti le cose che ti servono
[00:41] <Musashi73> poi il resto si vede
[00:41] <krabador> Musashi73, se fai installazione pulita รจ meglio
[00:41] <krabador> buon proseguimento
[00:42] <Musashi73> ok, la farรฒ piรน avanti dopo un backup. Notte
[01:26] <ppauk> buona sera volevo sapere sto installando ubuntu
[01:27] <ppauk> ho un pc piccolo portatile quelli piccoli senza dvd classici per poco uso
[01:27] <ppauk> scarico a32
[01:27] <ppauk> giusto
[01:27] <ppauk> ??
[01:27] <ppauk> bit
[01:27] <ppauk> non 64
[01:46] <ScoppoTutteLeFig> dove si scoppano le fighe?
[07:21] <MoL0ToV> ciao, come si fa a configurare un dominio con linux? vorrei che le homedirectory degli utenti fossero tutte sullo stesso server e le autenticazioni venissero fatte in maniera centralizzata
[08:26] <glpiana> ola
[09:05] <erixstep> Ho un problema "cretino" con il microfono su Ubuntu 15.04; รจ questo il canale giusto per chiedere aiuto?
[09:06] <Carlin0> si
[09:07] <erixstep> Ecco il punto: ho un computer desktop con webcam HD-3000 di Microsoft che uso come microfono
[09:08] <erixstep> Quando uso una qualsiasi applicazione che vuole usare il microfono c'รจ un lag di 5 secondi tra l'accensione del led e il suo effettivo funzionamento
[09:08] <erixstep> cosa posso fare?
[09:09] <Carlin0> erixstep, ma dopo funziona regolarmente ?
[09:09] <erixstep> Senza altri ritardi, solo all'inizio con l'accensione
[09:10] <erixstep> La stessa cosa succede con il pannello di Pulseaudio
[09:13] <krabador> erixstep, hai esperienze con questo device ed altri sistemi? Potrebbe semplicemente essere il tempo di inizializzazione del device,
[09:24] <erixstep> penso di sรฌ, comunque non so se c'impiega questo tempo con altri sistemi, certo non con Windows
[09:24] <erixstep> Ho un netbook con Arch e solo Alsa, posso testarlo lรฌ
[09:29] <krabador> questa webcam ha diversi sub-device , che vanno a giustificare il tempo di attivazione
[09:32] <erixstep> Quali sono?
[09:35] <krabador> ha sub device e moduli da caricare
[09:46] <erixstep> Non li trovo questi sub-device
[09:49] <erixstep> Ho un'idea: perchรฉ non fare al contrario, ovvero mantenerla perennemente accesa?
[09:50] <erixstep> come si fa?
[09:51] <erixstep> va be', devo andare, meglio parlarne dopo
[10:17] <Valentina> ho scaricato l'ultima versione di ubuntu ma quando apro la cartella per installarlo con monta archivi mi dice che รจ impossibile.. pare che sia proprio il monta archivi ad essere obsoleto..come faccio?
[10:18] <Uzzi> ciao
[10:18] <Valentina> ciao!
[10:19] <Uzzi> sto per installare ub 15.10 e ho cambiato l'hd optando per un ssd. Vi sono configurazioni particolari per far rendere al meglio l'ssd? o eseguo un'installazione standard?
[10:23] <Valentina> potreste aiutarmi?
[10:47] <ExPBoy> !installazione | Valentina
[10:47] <ubot-it> Valentina: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[10:51] <erixstep> Salve, ho un problema con il microfono, che adesso ho capito che รจ di Pulseaudio
[10:52] <erixstep> Praticamente il sistema impiega troppo tempo per inizializzare un nuovo dispositivo audio
[10:52] <erixstep> ma funziona perfettamente
[10:53] <erixstep> Si tratta di una Webcam Lifecam HD-3000
[10:53] <erixstep> E uso Ubuntu 15.04
[10:53] <vertu666> ciao
[10:54] <vertu666> sono nuovo sia in questo forum che in ambiente linux e avrei delle problematiche da porvi , รจ giusto scriverle qui? grazie
[10:55] <erixstep> Se sono "piccole" qui va bene, altrimenti meglio un forum, almeno questo รจ ciรฒ che credo
[10:56] <vertu666> ok , se per te non รจ un problema te la espongo se รจ troppo complicata dimmelo che apro un forum
[10:57] <erixstep> dimmi
[10:57] <vertu666> praticamente ho comprato una chiavetta usb wifi (D-link dwa-140 rev d1 ) e non riesco a fare lo switch tra managed mode e monitor mode
[10:58] <vertu666> ho pensato che fosse un problema di driver
[10:58] <vertu666> di default sono installati rt2800usb
[10:58] <erixstep> Non sono un esperto ma so per certo che non si tratta di driver
[10:58] <vertu666> ok
[10:58] <erixstep> Ho una chiavetta simile e funziona perfettamente
[10:59] <vertu666> ma riesci ad andare in monitor mode?
[11:01] <pippo51> ho un portatile con windwos 10 installato non riesco ha fare il boot da pendrive dove ho giร scaricato ubuntu 15.10 per poi installarlo su hard disk esterno, cosรฌ non tocco windows e non creo il dual boot?
[11:01] <vertu666> devi andare nel bios penso
[11:02] <vertu666> e abilitare l'avvio da usb
[11:02] <krabador> pippo51, se fai partire un supporto di installazione, installi in un device, e installi li dentro il bootloader, non tocchi nulla
[11:02] <krabador> pippo51, se hai scaricato 15.10 64bit, non dovresti avere problemi
[11:02] <vertu666> krabador
[11:03] <krabador> pippo51, in caso, puo' essere l'implementazione di uefi , se presente, in quel dato notebook
[11:03] <vertu666> sai utilizzare bene l'ambiente linux?che mi servirebbe una mano......
[11:03] <krabador> vertu666, che ubuntu usi?
[11:03] <vertu666> kali-linux
[11:03] <erixstep> Ecco qui: https://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/WLAN#Linux
[11:03] <vertu666> grazie vado subito a leggere
[11:04] <krabador> vertu666, allora sei offtopic qui, questo canale ha il log
[11:04] <vertu666> ?
[11:04] <krabador> vertu666, ed รจ di supporto tecnico ubuntu
[11:04] <krabador> !chat | vertu666
[11:04] <ubot-it> vertu666: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[11:04] <pippo51> krabador non riesco a far partire l'istallazione legge prima uefi e quindi la porta usb non la legge
[11:04] <krabador> pippo51, va a vedere le impostazioni boot di uefi
[11:04] <vertu666> ok grazie
[11:05] <krabador> erixstep, se vuoi continuare cio' di cui stavi parlando con l'utente, lo stesso vale anche per te
[11:05] <pippo51> krabador sono entrato nel setup forse devo modificare uefi?
[11:05] <erixstep> ร un po' complicato
[11:05] <erixstep> Stavo parlando con una persona, poi me ne sono andato
[11:05] <krabador> pippo51, ci sono le impostazioni di boot
[11:05] <krabador> pippo51, leggi il manuale del notebook a riguardo
[11:06] <erixstep> Sono tornato, se n'era andato lui nel frattempo e adesso non so piรน a chi rivolgermi
[11:06] <krabador> pippo51, bios e uefi non hanno le stesse voci dappertutto
[11:06] <pippo51> appunto mi puoi forse descrivere come fare a cambiare l'impostazione uefi?
[11:06] <krabador> pippo51, non credo tu abbia capito
[11:06] <krabador> pippo51, leggi il manuale del notebook , per come entrare nelle impostazioni boot uefi
[11:07] <krabador> non sono tutti uguali, non ti si puo' rispondere a secco
[11:07] <krabador> erixstep, qui dentro si chiede, se tra i presenti c'รจ qualcuno che conosce la risposta risponde.
[11:08] <pippo51> krabador sono entrato nelle impostazioni del boot sono elencati uefi poi cd, poi usb e poi rete
[11:08] <krabador> pippo51, e allora, vediamo secondo te cosa devi impostare, per far partire la pendrive
[11:09] <pippo51> krabador non mi fa impostare usb forse devo disabilitare uefi?
[11:10] <krabador> pippo51, sicuro che non riesci a spostare la voce?
[11:11] <pippo51> krabador mentre su usb c'รจ la voce enable e disable su uefi una volta selezionato esce un'altra scritta che adesso non ricordo
[11:12] <pippo51> krabador e una frase composta da tre parole
[11:13] <pippo51> krabador non ho provato ad impostarla , non vorrei creare danni in modo poi da ritrovarmi senza win e senza ubuntu
[11:13] <krabador> pippo51, puo' succedere soltanto se pialli tutto il disco, con l'installazione
[11:13] <krabador> pippo51, far partire il supporto di installazione non tocca nulla nel sistema
[11:17] <pippo51> krabador una volta era piรน semplice lo mettevo sul cd lo lanciavo sotto win lo provavo e poi eseguivo l'istallazione adesso l'ho installato su pendrive e quรฌ nasce il problema
[11:17] <krabador> pippo51, con uefi sono cambiate molte cose
[11:18] <pippo51> e allora come si fa?
[11:18] <krabador> pippo51, far partire un cd o una pendrive con uefi รจ la stessa cosa
[11:19] <krabador> da ubuntu 14.10 64bit uefi รจ supportato, quindi , a meno che nel notebook non sia stato implementato in maniera particolare , pendrive e dvd, partono in boot
[11:20] <krabador> con ubuntu dentro
[11:20] <krabador> altrimenti devi disabilitare secure boot, e fastboot, o , se presente, impostare in legacy mode
[11:21] <krabador> ma se windows รจ installato in uefi mode, successivamente all'installazione di ubuntu, ci sono delle cose da sistemare
[11:23] <pippo51> krabador il portatile รจ nuovo comprato da un mese forse dovrรฒ provare a impostare legacy mode da setup? cosรฌ forse legge la pendrive?
[11:24] <krabador> pippo51, prima di tutto
[11:24] <krabador> pippo51, come hai fatto la pendrive?
[11:26] <pippo51> ho scaricato il file iso e poi ho scaricato un programma per creare la chiavetta autoinstallante non ricordo il programma purtroppo non sono sul mio computer sono fuori casa e questo mi piazza un po anche dovuto al fatto che non grandi conoscenze informatiche
[11:27] <krabador> pippo51, universal usb installer?
[11:27] <mimmo> salve
[11:27] <krabador> !ciao | mimmo
[11:28] <ubot-it> mimmo: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[11:28] <Massimo57> Ciao a tutti.
[11:28] <pippo51> krabador no
[11:28] <krabador> !ciao | Massimo57
[11:28] <ubot-it> Massimo57: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[11:28] <mimmo> che versione di linux mi cosigliate per un packard bell dot s2 ram 2Gb
[11:28] <krabador> pippo51, allora rifa la pendrive con quel programma
[11:28] <krabador> !usbwin | pippo51
[11:29] <ubot-it> pippo51: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperร di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma puรฒ anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[11:29] <krabador> mimmo, che cpu e che scheda grafica monta?
[11:29] <krabador> modelli precisi
[11:29] <pippo51> krabador ma posso scaricare universal usb installer e rifacci ola pendirive
[11:29] <krabador> si
[11:30] <mimmo> Intel Atom N450 a 1,66 GHz, 2 thread per core, 512 KB di cache L2
[11:31] <Massimo57> Qualche giorno fa ho installato Kubuntu sul portatile di mia moglie utilizzando la chiavetta e un programma di installazione. debbo ripetere l'installazione al portatile di mia madre ma.... non ricordo il nome di questo programma! Dove posso trovare un elenco di questi programmi? Se rivedo il nome me lo ricordo....
[11:31] <Massimo57> Grazie!
[11:31] <mimmo> scheda grafica Intel GMA 3150
[11:32] <krabador> !usbwin | Massimo57
[11:32] <ubot-it> Massimo57: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperร di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma puรฒ anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[11:32] <krabador> mimmo, allora lubuntu
[11:32] <krabador> mimmo, รจ la piu' indicata in assoluto per quel processore
[11:32] <mimmo> che versione?
[11:32] <krabador> mimmo, prova 15.10
[11:32] <mimmo> ok grazie mille
[11:33] <Massimo57> ECCO!!!!! grazie! Il sito era pendrivelinux!!!! :)
[11:33] <krabador> bene
[11:34] <pippo51> krabador cortesemente un volta creato la pendirve che fa parte sotto windows oppure la devo inserire e far ripartire il portatile da spento? in questo caso dovrรฒ spostare nel setup l'impostazione da uefi a legacy mode?
[11:34] <krabador> pippo51, deve partire dalla macchina
[11:34] <krabador> prova a far partire con uefi abilitato
[11:35] <krabador> poi vedi
[11:35] <krabador> pippo51, il boot da usb, ha delle variabili, non solo sul fronte uefi, ma anche per come รจ la macchina impostata a vedere le pendrive
[11:35] <pippo51> ok grazie di tutto farรฒ delle prove ciao
[11:35] <krabador> salve
[12:41] <roje> Salve, avrei un problema per quanto riguarda l'installazione delle lingue
[12:42] <roje> Il programma "Supporto lingue" crasha quando seleziono da installare la lingua giapponese.
[12:45] <roje> o meglio, invece che crashare si freeza senza possibilitร di ripresa
[13:04] <roje> c'รจ nessuno?
[13:19] <roje> Salve, avrei un problema per quanto riguarda l'installazione delle lingue.
[13:19] <roje> Il programma "Supporto lingue" crasha quando seleziono da installare la lingua giapponese.
[14:11] <trigliceride> buongiorno, ho un problema: ho da poco effettuato l'aggiornamento a windows 10 (precedentmenete avevo windows 8.1) ed in pratica ora da ubuntu (ho un dual boot ubuntu/windows) non riesco piรน a leggere la partizione di windows, prima invece avevo accesso ai file, tipo immagini musica etc... Pensate sia dovuto a quello il problema? perchรจ soltanto d
[14:11] <trigliceride> opo aver fatto l'aggiornamento mi si presenta
[14:14] <b00k3r> trigliceride: da windows apri un terminale, scrivi shutdown /s /t 00, poi avvia ubuntu prova a leggere i file di win
[14:14] <trigliceride> che comando sarebbe solo per informazione?
[14:15] <b00k3r> trigliceride: spenge il pc invece di fare quella specie di ibernazione
[14:15] <trigliceride> ah ok, comunque strano perchรจ ieri sera avevo proprio arrestato il pc
[14:17] <trigliceride> comunque adesso provo e ti faccio sapere dopo
[15:43] <Serg123> Salve
[15:43] <Serg123> Mi serve una mano ho disabilitato i driver nVidia per usare la scheda integrata e ora ho il monitor nero
[15:44] <Carlin0> Serg123, devi cancellare xorg.conf forse
[15:45] <Serg123> Non ho xorg.conf ho letto che ubuntu non lo USA piu
[15:45] <Carlin0> Serg123, ma i driver nvidia si
[15:46] <Serg123> Non ce un file xorg.con in etc/X11
[15:46] <Serg123> conf
[15:47] <Carlin0> allora i nvidia non hanno mai funzionato
[15:47] <krabador> Serg123, entra in recovery, attaccati con cavo lan , selezioni networking, poi root
[15:47] <Serg123> Ci prego aiuto sto sclerando come faccio a far partire il maledetto unity vedo solo uno schermo nero e il puntatore del mouse a forma di x
[15:47] <krabador> Serg123, sei sicuro di avere nvidia?
[15:48] <Serg123> Ho messo in blacklist nvidia
[15:48] <krabador> Serg123, sei sicuro di avere nvidia?
[15:48] <Carlin0> ed avresti disabilitato in questo modo ?
[15:48] <Serg123> Ora ho un monitor su la scheda integrata e uno su nvidia
[15:48] <Carlin0> devi purgare tutto
[15:48] <Serg123> Purgati i driver
[15:49] <Carlin0> in che modo ?
[15:49] <Serg123> Il monitor sulla nVidia non si accende neanche
[15:49] <krabador> Serg123, rispondi per favore?
[15:50] <Serg123> Krabor ho due schede una integrata Intel e una nvidia , prima usavo la nVidia, ho disintallato i driver e messo in blacklist noveau
Serg123, entra in recovery, attaccati con cavo lan , selezioni networking, poi root
[15:51] <krabador> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[15:51] <krabador> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:51] <krabador> echo 'nouveau' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[15:51] <Carlin0> Serg123, non dovevi mettere nulla in blacklist , non serve +
[15:51] <krabador> sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:52] <roje> Salve ho un problema nell'installare lingue straniere tramite il programma "supporto lingue"
[15:52] <Serg123> Vediamo ora li do i comandi
[15:52] <krabador> Serg123, no
[15:52] <krabador> in recovery
[15:52] <roje> piรน che altro, ho un problema nell'installare la lingua giapponese
[15:52] <krabador> Serg123, se sai leggere
[15:53] <roje> una volta selezionata la lingua e premuto "applica" il programma va in freeze senza possibilitร di recupero
[15:53] <krabador> Serg123, se non hai voglia, accomodati fuori
[15:53] <Serg123> Dicevo che ora scrivo i tuoi comandi
[15:53] <krabador> Serg123, allora trolli
<krabador> Serg123, entra in recovery ---> e 3
[15:55] <akis24> roje: ma hai scaricato prima il pacchetto della lingua giapponese ?
[15:55] <Serg123> Come entro in recovery
[15:55] <Musashi73> ciao krabador, vedo che sei operativo 24h su 24. Volevo chiedere il tuo aiuto
[15:56] <krabador> chiedi
[15:56] <roje> akis24, ma non dovrei installarlo da "Supporto lingue" ?
[15:56] <roje> anche provando da terminale ho avuto esito negativo
[15:56] <krabador> Serg123, da grub, seleziona la seconda dall'alto
[15:56] <akis24> roje: si esatto e poi portarlo al primo posto se vuoi usarlo ..
[15:56] <roje> veramente non devo usarlo
[15:56] <roje> ma solo scaricarlo
[15:57] <roje> usarlo inteso come lingua di sistema-principale
[15:57] <krabador> Serg123, poi ancora la seconda dall'alto
[15:57] <akis24> roje: mica รจ chiaro devi usarlo come lingua di sitema o no ?
[15:57] <krabador> roje, hai moglie giapponese?
[15:57] <akis24> sistema*
[15:57] <roje> no
[15:57] <Carlin0> roje, e a che ti serve solo scaricato ?
[15:58] <roje> c'รจ un programma che devo usare che necessita la presenza della lingua giapponese sul pc
[15:58] <akis24> roje: lingua o font ? che programma รจ ?
[15:58] <Carlin0> magari basta solo il pacchetto per quel programma : di che programma parliamo?
[15:59] <roje> allora, la guida del programma dice semplicemente di andare in supporto lingue, aggiungi, giapponese e stop
[15:59] <Serg123> Kraba comunque io non voglio usare la nVidia voglio usare la Intel integrata, solo che sulla integrata parte lightdm e vedo schermo nero e puntatore mouse a forma di x, non funziona il desktop insomma
[15:59] <Musashi73> dopo che stanotte abbiamo fatto quel recupero di far ripartire il mio ubuntu per problemi di impostazioni driver scheda video, adesso quando avvio mi appare un scritta
[15:59] <akis24> roje: magari rispondi anche alla seconda domanda ... erano due
[16:00] <roje> non lo so, รจ un programma che devo far partire con wine
[16:00] <Carlin0> Serg123, guarda che abbiamo capito cosa vuoi fare , mo cerca di capire tu cosa ti si รจ detto
[16:00] <roje> penso che necessita sia di lingua sia di font
[16:00] <krabador> Serg123, perdi pure tempo
[16:01] <Carlin0> roje, che programma รจ?
[16:01] <roje> UTAU
[16:02] <roje> Il problema รจ che solo il giapponese non mi fa installare
[16:02] <roje> altre lingue si
[16:02] <krabador> Musashi73, abbiamo recuperato il boot di 15.04, che tra poco รจ fuori supporto, usala il giusto per il backup, per passare a 15.10
[16:02] <Musashi73> giร fatto
[16:02] <krabador> passato a 15.10?
[16:03] <Musashi73> come mai adesso appare l'errore 4.566127?
[16:03] <Musashi73> [url=http://postimage.org/][img]http://s12.postimg.org/s89ww6owt/IMG_20151102_160507.jpg[/img][/url]
[16:03] <Musashi73> [url=http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=italian]upload[/url]
[16:03] <krabador> passato a 15.10?
[16:03] <Musashi73> [url=http://postimage.org/][img]http://s12.postimg.org/s89ww6owt/IMG_20151102_160507.jpg[/img][/url]
[16:03] <Musashi73> [url=http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=italian]upload[/url]
[16:03] <Musashi73> scusate, l'errore
[16:03] <Musashi73> http://postimg.org/image/bx9szvcex/
[16:03] <Musashi73> si, sono alla versione 15.10
[16:04] <Musashi73> il mio pc va come una bomba
[16:04] <krabador> bene, allora , riguarda il backlight
[16:05] <cristian_c> roje: 15.10?
[16:05] <Musashi73> infatti mi ricordo che il pc si bloccava fino alla lettura del backlight e per questo non si avviava
[16:05] <roje> hm?
[16:05] <roje> non ho 15.10
[16:06] <cristian_c> roje: 15.04?
[16:06] <akis24> se ce lo dici ci fai un favore ..
[16:06] <roje> 14.10 dovrebbe essere
[16:06] <roje> la versione lts
[16:07] <cristian_c> roje: 14.10 non รจ lts
[16:07] <roje> 14.04
[16:07] <roje> 14.04
[16:07] <roje> Ecco
[16:07] <Serg123> Krabador devo reinstallare unity desktop?
[16:07] <roje> scusate stavo controllando un'altra cosa
[16:08] <Serg123> ubuntu-desktop
[16:08] <cristian_c> Serg123: hai riletto i messaggi di krabador e Carlin0 ?
[16:08] <cristian_c> Serg123: che ti avevano detto cosa fare
[16:08] <Serg123> Si sono nella shell di robot in recovery mode
[16:08] <Serg123> Root
[16:08] <cristian_c> Serg123: ok
[16:09] <Carlin0> roje, prova scaricandolo a mano http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/language-pack-ja
[16:10] <Serg123> Non ho xorg.conf e voglio lasciare i noveau in blacklist dici di provare a reinstallare tutto ubuntu-desktop ora?
[16:11] <Carlin0> non mettere i nouveau in blacklist non serveeeeeeee
[16:11] <Serg123> Si devo passare la VGA alla virtual machine
[16:11] <krabador> disinstallando nvidia, si disinstalla un componente di buntu.deskyop
[16:11] <roje> ok ma
[16:11] <krabador> che va quindi reinstallato
[16:11] <roje> questo pacchetto contiene
[16:11] <roje> ja_JP.utf8
[16:11] <roje> ?
[16:12] <Carlin0> roje, quello lo devi scoprire tu
[16:12] <roje> ok
[16:12] <Musashi73> cosa devo fare per evitare quell'errore?
[16:13] <Serg123> Mi dice ubuntu-desktop si already to the new est version
[16:13] <Carlin0> Serg123, dalla shell di root dai questo comando apt purge nvidia*
[16:14] <krabador> Serg123, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[16:14] <Serg123> Fatto
[16:14] <Carlin0> Serg123, e leva i nuoveau dalla blacklist
[16:14] <krabador> Carlin0, gli sono tati mandati in successione
[16:14] <krabador> Serg123, hai seguito l'ordine indicato ?
[16:14] <Serg123> Yes
[16:15] <Musashi73> qualche consiglio?
[16:15] <krabador> Serg123, che cosa hai messo in blacklist?
[16:15] <krabador> Musashi73, si blocca in quel punto?
[16:15] <Musashi73> no, nessun blocco
[16:16] <Serg123> I driver opensource nvidia
[16:16] <cristian_c> roje: hai installato la 14.04 da zero?
[16:16] <roje> si
[16:16] <Musashi73> il pc funziona correttamente, solo che durante l'avvio appare sempre quel messaggio
[16:16] <Musashi73> ma tutto funziona benissimo
[16:16] <cristian_c> roje: digita: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[16:16] <cristian_c> in un terminale
[16:17] <krabador> Serg123, toglili dalla blacklist
[16:18] <krabador> Musashi73, fa una prova, da grub , in avvio, premi il tasto "e" in corrispondenza della prima linea, al posto di "quiet splash " scrivi nomodeset, con opportuni spazi prima e dopo, e premi f10
[16:18] <roje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13083211/
[16:19] <Serg123> Se li tolgo dalla blacklist ho tutti e due i monito neri sia sulla scheda nVidia che sulla integrata
[16:20] <Carlin0> Serg123, fai un po cosa vuoi allora ...
[16:20] <roje> ok ora ho ja_JP.utf8
[16:20] <Carlin0> roje, hai un ppa di precise la 12.04
[16:20] <roje> ppa?
[16:21] <krabador> Serg123, quando hai installato questo sistema, per usare il pc, hai avuto necessariamente bisogno di mettere in blacklist nouveau?
[16:22] <Musashi73> krabador, quale รจ il comando per attivare la tasiera it dal root recovery. L'ho dimenticato รจ vorrei appuntarmelo. grazie. Adesso faccio la prova che mi hai detto
[16:22] <krabador> Musashi73, non devi entrare in recovery
[16:22] <Serg123> No voglio non usare la nVidia ora perche voglio passarla a una virtual macchine e usare invece la Intel integrata ma vedo solo schermo nero su quel monitor
[16:22] <krabador> Musashi73, lo devi fare da grub, in corrispondenza della prima linea
[16:23] <cristian_c> roje: cat /etc/apt/sources.list && ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:23] <krabador> Serg123, dopo i comandi digitati da root di recovery, togli nouveau da blacklist, e riavvia
[16:23] <cristian_c> !paste | roje
[16:23] <ubot-it> roje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:23] <krabador> Musashi73, devi premere "e"
[16:24] <krabador> Musashi73, e fare quanto ti ho detto
[16:24] <Musashi73> si l'ho capito, ma volevo sapere per mia curiositร personale quel comando che attiva la tastiera it. libkey it??
[16:24] <Musashi73> ok
[16:24] <krabador> Musashi73, loadkeys it
[16:24] <Musashi73> grazie
[16:25] <roje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13083260/
[16:25] <Serg123> Krabor la scheda nVidia non deve funzionare ma solo la Intel
[16:26] <roje> ops l'ho incollato 2 volte di seguito
[16:26] <cristian_c> deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-proposed restricted universe main multiverse
[16:27] <cristian_c> ubuntu-wine-ppa-trusty.list
[16:27] <cristian_c> roje: credimi, รจ un peccato veniale, comparato a cio che hai fatto
[16:28] <krabador> Serg123, si, ma hai avuto problemi con la disinstallazione del drive nvidia
[16:28] <roje> ?
[16:28] <krabador> Serg123, hai riavviato o no?
[16:28] <Serg123> Si riavviato
[16:28] <cristian_c> roje: hai aggiunto repository esterni a quelli ufficiali di canonical
[16:29] <krabador> Serg123, e come sta andando?
[16:29] <cristian_c> roje: e hai attivato repository potenzialmente instabili
[16:29] <Serg123> Xorg schermo nero e mouse a forma di x, come prima
[16:29] <roje> lo so, infatti uso la beta di wine
[16:30] <Serg123> Posso accedere alle shell con ctrl alt
[16:30] <Carlin0> roje, ma hai un ppa della 12.04 sulla 14.04
[16:30] <krabador> Serg123, si ma le operazioni con xorg vanno fatte da recovery
[16:30] <Carlin0> oltre ad aver abilitato i proposed
[16:31] <roje> emh, e cosa comporta?
[16:31] <roje> fin'ora non ho avuto problemi
[16:31] <Carlin0> roje, insomma hai fatto un po di casini
[16:31] <Serg123> Ora non mi ha reinstallato nulla da recovery, vuole forse dire che non ho rimosso niente disintallando nVidia?
[16:32] <krabador> Serg123, che comando hai dato?
[16:32] <Carlin0> Serg123, ma quando hai installato la 1ยฐ volta andava bene o hai dovuto subito mettere in blacklist i nouveau ?
[16:33] <roje> no aspetta, rileggendo il pastebin di prima...
[16:33] <roje> praticamente non ricevo update ufficiali o cosa?
[16:33] <Serg123> apt-get parte nvidia-* non ha rimosso nulla e apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop non ha reinstallato nulla
[16:33] <Serg123> purge
[16:33] <cristian_c> roje: chi t'ha detto di attivare i repo proposed?
[16:33] <krabador> Serg123, nvidia non andava infatti reinstallato
[16:34] <roje> allora da quel che vedo in Software e Aggiornamenti io dovrei averne 2 esterni
[16:34] <roje> che sarebbero quelli di Steam e di wine
[16:34] <Serg123> Giร ma forse la rimozione non ha rimosso pacchetti relativi al desktop e quindi lo schermo nero non dipende da quello?
[16:35] <roje> steam li ha messi automaticamente mi sembra, mentre per wine gli ho messi io (sempre se non ricordo male)
[16:35] <krabador> Serg123, install --reinstall , reinstalla, a meno che non sei scollegato
[16:35] <cristian_c> roje: sรฌ, ma non hai ancora risposto alla mia domanda
[16:35] <krabador> Serg123, hai attaccao il cavo la, selezionato networking e poi root?
[16:35] <Serg123> Si
[16:36] <roje> forse gli ho attivati per sbaglio
[16:36] <roje> non ricordo
[16:36] <krabador> Serg123, networking ha dato errori?
[16:36] <krabador> Serg123, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:36] <krabador> Serg123, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[16:36] <krabador> Serg123, incolla qui il link
[16:36] <cristian_c> roje: si scrive 'li ho attivati', almeno i fondamentali
[16:37] <roje> si giusto, รจ un errore che commetto sempre xD
[16:37] <cristian_c> roje: allora
[16:38] <cristian_c> roje: prova a disattivare i proposed
[16:38] <roje> che sarebbero?
[16:38] <cristian_c> e rifare gli aggiornamenti
[16:38] <cristian_c> roje: di cosa abbiamo parlato fino ad adesso
[16:38] <cristian_c> ?
[16:39] <roje> di repository esterne a canonical
[16:39] <roje> e ppa della 12.04?
[16:40] <cristian_c> roje: i ppa 12.04 sono solo steam
[16:40] <roje> ah ok
[16:40] <roje> ma come li disattivo i proposed? (da dove ovvero)
[16:40] <cristian_c> roje: sto parlando dei repository proposed
[16:40] <cristian_c> quelli 'forse attivati per sbaglio'
[16:41] <Serg123> Anche da sessione normale reinstall non re installa ubuntu-desktop
[16:41] <cristian_c> roje: dalla stessa finestra in cui li hai attivati
[16:41] <krabador> Serg123, segui , per favore
[16:42] <roje> http://imgur.com/c6z2dnj
[16:42] <roje> ovvero questi?
[16:42] <Serg123> Non ce output a dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[16:43] <cristian_c> roje: da lรฌ disattivi wine
[16:43] <roje> emh allora non so dove dovrebbero trovarsi
[16:44] <roje> pensavo fossero quelli
[16:44] <cristian_c> roje: vai in 'software per ubuntu' e 'aggiornamenti'
[16:44] <krabador> Serg123, ls -la /etc/X11/ | pastebinit
[16:44] <roje> si?
[16:44] <roje> ah ecco
[16:44] <roje> trovato
[16:45] <roje> disattivati
[16:45] <cristian_c> roje: che scuole frequenti (perdona la domanda)?
[16:45] <roje> si giusto, avevo attivato io quell'opzione
[16:45] <cristian_c> (o che hai frequentato)
[16:45] <roje> frequento un itis perchรจ?
[16:46] <Serg123> Kraba vuoi vedere se ho xorg.come?
[16:46] <cristian_c> roje: non ti vedo molto concentrato
[16:46] <Serg123> Conf
[16:46] <krabador> Serg123, manda il comando
[16:46] <krabador> per favore
[16:47] <krabador> che se c'รจ pastebinit installato, fa un link
[16:47] <krabador> sempre se il pc รจ collegato
[16:47] <krabador> !nick | Serg123
[16:47] <ubot-it> Serg123: Per autocompletare un nick scrivete le prime due o tre lettere e poi premete il tasto TAB | vedi anche !chi
[16:47] <krabador> !chi | Serg123
[16:47] <ubot-it> Serg123: se stai parlando con qualcuno in particolare, per rendere piรน leggibile il canale ti consiglio di inserire il suo nickname in quello che dici (puoi usare il completamento premendo il tasto tab)
[16:47] <roje> รจ che sto pensando a far partire questo programma, scusami
[16:48] <cristian_c> roje: hai disattivato i proposed?
[16:48] <roje> si
[16:49] <cristian_c> roje: rifai gli aggiornamenti di sistema
[16:50] <cristian_c> roje: ma non ti garantisco il ripristino della situazione pre-attivazione dei repo
[16:51] <roje> li ho attivati da circa un'ora e non mi ha dato problemi
[16:51] <roje> hanno*
[16:52] <cristian_c> roje: e il problema di supporto lingue da quanto ce l'hai?
[16:52] <cristian_c> quanto tempo
[16:52] <roje> da prima che spuntassi i proposed
[16:53] <cristian_c> sempre per sbaglio...
[16:53] <roje> semplicemente avevo letto la guida che diceva di installare la lingua giapponese dal programma Supporto lingue
[16:54] <roje> aprii il programma, selezionai giapponese e poi la finestra si era freezata
[16:54] <roje> (dopo aver selezionato giapponese, avevo premuto applica)
[16:55] <cristian_c> roje: che non c'entra niente con i repo proposed
[16:56] <cristian_c> almeno per quanto riguarda l'installazione di una lingua
[16:56] <roje> eh, io la cosa delle repo proposed l'ho scoperta solo ora
[16:57] <roje> infatti pensavo fosse un altro il problema
[16:57] <cristian_c> roje: eppure hai detto di averli attivati un'ora fa
[16:57] <cristian_c> prima di entrare qui dentro
[16:57] <roje> giusto
[17:12] <Musashi73> ciao krabrador, ho provato a fare quella modifica di "splash quiet" con "nomodeset" ma non รจ cambiato niente
[17:15] <krabador> Musashi73, all'avvio cosa hai avuto?
[17:15] <krabador> Musashi73, ma hai messo le virgolette?
[17:16] <Musashi73> dovevo mettere le virgolette? Non lo avevo capito, riprovo. Ho sostituito splash quiet con nomodeset ma senza virgolette. Adesso riprovo
[17:17] <krabador> Musashi73, no, NON dovevi mettere le virgolette
[17:18] <Musashi73> aspette, ti faccio vedere l'imaggine
[17:20] <Musashi73> http://postimg.org/image/k7nhb7vw3/
[17:21] <krabador> Musashi73, come mai sono invertiti ?
[17:21] <krabador> quiet splash
[17:22] <Musashi73> non lo so, l'ho trovato cosรฌ
[17:24] <Musashi73> cosa faccio??
[17:25] <krabador> Musashi73, innanzitutto non avere fretta
[17:25] <krabador> Musashi73, in quel punto, inserisci acpi_osi=\"!windows 2012\"
[17:25] <krabador> premi f10
[17:25] <krabador> vedi che fa
[17:26] <Musashi73> sostituisco splash quiet con acpi_osi=\"!windows 2012\" ???
[17:28] <Musashi73> ok, riprovo e ti faccio sapere
[17:28] <krabador> vai
[17:46] <bartolomeo> ciao. Problema con Ubuntu 12.04. Schermo nero all'accensione. Sono sicuro di aver fatto un casino con libudev.so.0. Se provo a farlo partire da recovery mdoe in modalitร grafica mi da questo errore: "mountall: error while loading shared libreries: lubudev.so.0: cannot open shared object File: Error 40"
[17:47] <cristian_c> bartolomeo: partiamo dall'inizio
[17:47] <cristian_c> che hai fatto con libudev? Che volevi fare?
[17:48] <bartolomeo> volevo installare spotify ma non funzionava. Ho seguito qualche consiglio trovato su google ma senza sapere quello che facevo
[17:48] <krabador> ma anche, che scheda video hai, che driver monta, hai installato qualche driver, eccetera
[17:48] <krabador> bartolomeo, male
[17:48] <krabador> molto male
[17:48] <bartolomeo> credo di aver cancellato, oppure ricollegato in modo improprio questa libreria
[17:50] <bartolomeo> non mi ricordo che scheda video ho. Se volete entro in modalitร shell
[17:51] <krabador> bartolomeo, linka per favore la guida che hai seguito
[17:52] <bartolomeo> Non stavo usando questo computer, quindi non so dirti ora. Mi ricordo che ho provato a fare un operazione tipo "ln -sf libudev.so.0 libudev.so.1"
[17:52] <bartolomeo> Ma non ricordo se il primo termine era 1 o 0.
[17:52] <krabador> bartolomeo, trova la guida, per favore
[17:52] <bartolomeo> In ogni caso sono sicuro di aver cancellato anche un libudev.so.0 da una directroy
Non riesco a ritrovare i consigli che ho seguito, anche perchรฉ erano tratti da siti diversi. Secondo me il problema รจ che ho cancellato la libreria da una cartella ma non ricordo quale...Tu sai per caso in quale cartella dovrei rimetterla?
[17:57] <krabador> bartolomeo, e dove prendi l'originale ?
[17:57] <bartolomeo> da /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[17:58] <bartolomeo> sono sicuro che era anche in un'altra cartella ma non ricordo quale. Forse /lib?
[17:58] <krabador> bartolomeo, sudo apt-get install --reinstall libudev0 libudev0-udeb
[17:58] <bartolomeo> ok ci provo
[18:00] <bartolomeo> quando provo ad installare qualcosa mi scrive "W:Blocco disabilitato per il file di blocco in sola lettura /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:00] <bartolomeo> E:Impossibile scrivere in /var/cache/apt/
[18:00] <bartolomeo> e mi dice che l'elenco dei pacchetti o il file di stato non puo essere aperto
[18:01] <krabador> bartolomeo, cosa hai di fronte, del sistema?
[18:01] <krabador> che terminale?
[18:01] <krabador> il recovery ?
[18:02] <bartolomeo> ho aperto la shell da recovery mode. Il prompt รจ: root@AL:tilde#
[18:03] <krabador> apt-get -f install
[18:03] <bartolomeo> ok
[18:03] <bartolomeo> Mi scrive di nuovo la stessa cosa di sopra
[18:03] <bartolomeo> W:Blocco disabilitato...ecc
[18:04] <krabador> dpkg --configure -a
[18:05] <bartolomeo> "dpkg: errore: impossibile accedere all'area di stato di dpkg: File System in sola lettura
[18:05] <krabador> bartolomeo, un attimmo
[18:05] <krabador> mount -o remount,rw /
[18:06] <bartolomeo> fatto
[18:06] <krabador> vai con sudo apt-get install --reinstall libudev0 libudev0-udeb
[18:07] <krabador> bartolomeo, il sistema deve essere connesso
[18:07] <bartolomeo> Ok. Ora ci prova ma mi scrive: "E: impossibile trovare il pacchetto libudev0-udeb"
[18:07] <krabador> bartolomeo, ti conviene attaccare un cavo lan, digitare exit , abilitare il networking
[18:07] <krabador> bartolomeo, se non sei connesso e non รจ in cache , รจ normale
[18:08] <bartolomeo> ok faccio subito
[18:08] <krabador> una volta abilitato il networking se non da errori , torna in console root
[18:08] <krabador> rimanda mount -o remount,rw /
[18:09] <bartolomeo> un attimo che ci riprovo. Sembra che mi dia alcuni errori...aspetta
[18:10] <krabador> alcuni errori dove?
[18:11] <bartolomeo> quando gli dico di abilitare la rete, a schermo nero vedo scorrere degli errori, ma troppo veloce e poi torna il menรน del recovery
[18:11] <bartolomeo> Ho provato a insalltarle ma mi da lo stesso errore...
[18:11] <bartolomeo> provo a leggere cosa mi scrive quando abilito la rete
[18:11] <krabador> "Ho provato a insalltarle"
[18:12] <krabador> sei attaccato al cavo lan?
[18:13] <krabador> bartolomeo, se il misterioso groppo di comandi a caso che hai dato seguento non precisate guide di numero non precisato, ha messo ppa, i problemi possono essere ulteriori
[18:22] <vind76> ciso amici
[18:23] <vind76> chi mi puo aiutare per un problema con driver b43 wireless broadcom
[18:23] <krabador> !broadcom | vind76
[18:23] <ubot-it> vind76: Dispositivi senza fili Broadcom http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Broadcom
[18:24] <vind76> ho scaricato b43 su pendrive in formato tar.gz, ma non so come installarlo
[18:24] <akis24> vind76: krabador ti ha postato un link da leggere
[18:25] <vind76> ho provato ma non ci riesco su ububntu server, accidenti a me!
[18:26] <krabador> vind76, e perchรจ hai installato ubuntu server?
[18:26] <vind76> mi serve su un altro pc....
[18:26] <vind76> adesso ho collegato alla lan, all'interno lo pingo ma non va su internet
[18:27] <krabador> vind76, che cosa hai installato , per favore?
[18:27] <vind76> ubuntu server 14.04 lts
[18:27] <krabador> vind76, ubuntu server, รจ il caso che la si installi nell'ottica di gestire un server , con le competenze a riguardo
[18:27] <krabador> che non sono proprio "punta e clicca"
[18:28] <krabador> se devi gestire 2 - 3 servizi, ubuntu normale va benissimo, e non stai ad impazzire
[18:28] <vind76> e lo so..in virtualbox funziona da dio e ho configuraato quello che mi serviva
[18:28] <krabador> e tu devi installare in virtual box?
[18:29] <krabador> !informazioni | vind76
[18:29] <vind76> no in virtuabox su unaltro pc funziona benissimo la versione server, adesso ho un secondo pc volevo facesse solo da server
[18:29] <krabador> !dettagli | vind76
[18:29] <ubot-it> vind76: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[18:29] <krabador> vind76, server per cosa?
[18:30] <vind76> mi server per installare un server asterisk,
[18:30] <krabador> vind76, ripeto, se devi gestire 2 -3 cose, ubuntu normale, o lubuntu, la piu' leggera, va benissimo
[18:30] <krabador> vind76, confermo
[18:31] <vind76> quindi asterisk desktop 14.04 lts regge tranquillamente asterisk?
[18:32] <krabador> vind76, senti, leggi la guida broadcom postata, inquadra qual'รจ il driver che ti serve, e la versione di sistema, e segui le parti "senza connessione ad internet"
[18:33] <krabador> vind76, immagino che devi gestire un call center...
[18:33] <vind76> certo ho visto, ma putroppo nella guida i file sono tar.bz2 e invece io ho scaricato dal sito ma sono tar.gz e non sono come installarli dal pendrive usb
[18:34] <krabador> vind76, la guida ti segnala passo passo
[18:34] <vind76> ecco bravo hai centrato, percio' mi ho bisogno del server, ma questa broadcom ma sta facendo impazzire
[18:35] <krabador> vind76, non sembra tu stia leggendo...
[18:36] <vind76> me ne sono andato nel pallone...sto impazzendo da ieri, forse mi devo prendere una pausa
[18:37] <vind76> hai ragione infatti sto scaricando i tar.bz2 come indicato in guida
[18:37] <krabador> vind76, magari se parte dei soldi che non date ai ragazzi che sgobbano al call center, li deste a gente competente, non ti faresti il problema.
[18:37] <vind76> guarda collega che il call center non รจ il mio.......
[18:40] <krabador> non credo proprio tu sia mio collega.
[18:41] <vind76> tu sei sicuremente un guru di linux
[18:41] <cristian_c> vind76: allora
[18:42] <cristian_c> vind76: non รจ questione di guru
[18:42] <cristian_c> vind76: molto semplicemente, se vuoi gestire o far gestire a terzi un server
[18:42] <vind76> meno male che ci siete voi...dai siete comunque bravi e disponibili
[18:43] <cristian_c> vind76: tu o chi per esso, dovreste possedere delle competenze di base
[18:44] <cristian_c> su ciรฒ che riguarda linux
[18:44] <cristian_c> vind76: c'รจ una documentazione ufficiale
[18:44] <vind76> ma a volte si ha bisogno del consiglio a viva voce..
[18:45] <vind76> io provengo da windows e sono ancora neofita, quindi mi perdonerete
[18:46] <cristian_c> e se ci sono difficoltร importanti di comprensione semantica delle procedure descritte passo passo considerate universalmente come basilari
[18:47] <cristian_c> allora vuol dire che queste competenze di base mancano
[18:47] <cristian_c> ovvero, i requisiti per gestire un server
[18:48] <cristian_c> vind76: quelle guide, e quella linkata in particolare, รจ pensata appositamente per essere seguita da un neo-utente di ubuntu
[18:48] <vind76> ok ok grazie mille
[18:49] <cristian_c> quindi, se ci sono specifici problemi con quellamguida
[18:49] <vind76> guardo con calma
[18:49] <cristian_c> segnalali dettagliatamente, punto per punto
[18:50] <vind76> nn pensavo fosse davvero cosรฌ stabile ubuntu...mi sta appassionando
[18:51] <cristian_c> vind76: la scoperta di un nuovo os richiede la preliminare lettura della relativa documentazione
[18:51] <cristian_c> raggiungibile dal sito ufficiale
[18:52] <cristian_c> !documentazione
[18:52] <ubot-it> Documentazione ufficiale http://help.ubuntu-it.org - Documentazione della comunitร http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione - Gruppo documentazione: pagina principale http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoDocumentazione
[18:54] <cristian_c> vind76: un po' come avviene quando leggi le istruzioni per il mobile appena acquistato all'ikea
[18:57] <vind76> grazie ragazzi grazie........per il supporto asterisk siete esperti ?
[19:37] <Musashi73> krabrador, anche inserendo la stringa acpi_osi=\" windows 2012 \" non รจ cambiato niente
[19:38] <krabador> Musashi73, acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:39] <krabador> prova questo al solito posto
[19:39] <Musashi73> ok
[19:39] <krabador> Musashi73, ti preciso, che la modifica, รจ valida solo per la sessione che ti appresti ad avviare
[19:39] <krabador> il riavvio successivo non ha quella modifica
[19:39] <Musashi73> quindi non รจ permanente?
[19:40] <krabador> no
[19:40] <krabador> se riavvii piu' volte, riavvii nel modo tradizionale
[19:40] <Musashi73> e allora lascio le cose cosรฌ come sono
[19:40] <krabador> รจ per vedere se in quell'avvio va
[19:40] <krabador> Musashi73, madonna...
[19:40] <krabador> se non provi, non puoi sapere quale modifica fare
[19:41] <Musashi73> io preferisco non vedere quella schermata durante ogni avvio
[19:41] <Musashi73> ok
[19:41] <Musashi73> provo
[19:41] <krabador> che si va a mettere in un file /etc/default/grub
[19:41] <krabador> Musashi73, oh senti
[19:41] <krabador> decidi cosa fare
[19:41] <krabador> risparmi tempo tu e noi
[19:42] <Musashi73> vediamo se risolvo con acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:42] <krabador> Musashi73, se provi, devi far caso al primo avvio
[19:42] <krabador> e molto probabilmente non hai fatto caso
[19:42] <krabador> quanto meno in quello
[19:42] <krabador> primo avvio ---> pressione di f10
[19:44] <Musashi73> con acpi_osi=\" windows 2012 \" all'avvio con F10 non รจ apparso nessun problema, sembrava che il problema fosse stato risolto. Ma appena ho riavviato la scritta รจ rispuntata
[19:45] <krabador> Musashi73, allora rifai la stessa cosa
[19:45] <krabador> con quello stesso parametro
[19:45] <Marcellocomehere> salve a tutti buonasera vorrei sapere come posso fare per eliminare ubuntu? basta solo eliminare la partizione?
[19:45] <Musashi73> e poi?
[19:45] <krabador> Musashi73, al che , ti dico dove andare a fare la modifica permanente"
[19:45] <Musashi73> ok
[19:46] <Musashi73> non mi ricordo se gli spazi sono corretti, puoi confermare? acpi_osi=\" windows 2012 \"
[19:46] <Musashi73> acpi_osi=\"! windows 2012 \"
[19:47] <krabador> Musashi73, acpi_osi=\"!windows 2012\"
[19:47] <Musashi73> grazie, a dopo
[19:47] <krabador> Musashi73, ti ho segnalato un parametro alla volta, perchรจ era scontato che tornassi a dire come andava
[19:47] <krabador> Musashi73, ma sei solo scomparso
[19:47] <Musashi73> ok
[19:48] <Musashi73> ogni tanto vado in bagno ;-)
[19:48] <Marcellocomehere> ragazzi?
[19:48] <Musashi73> vado a fare la prova
[19:52] <Marcellocomehere> rispondete gentilmente?
[19:55] <Marcellocomehere> vorrei sapere come eliminare ubuntu senza fare danni
[19:56] <Musashi73> eccomi
[19:56] <Musashi73> fatto
[19:57] <krabador> cosa fa , alla pressione di f10 , dopo aver messo il parametro?
[19:58] <Musashi73> si avviano dei controlli
[19:58] <Musashi73> tutti sono ok
[19:59] <Musashi73> ubuntu parte senza fare apparire la schermata nera con le scritte e gli errori. Si avvia normalmente
[20:00] <krabador> Musashi73, allora sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[20:00] <Musashi73> fatto
[20:01] <krabador> Musashi73, spetta un attimo , chiudi
[20:02] <krabador> Musashi73, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:02] <Musashi73> ok
[20:02] <krabador> Musashi73, sudo cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit
[20:02] <krabador> Musashi73, incolla qui il link prodotto da quest'ultimo
[20:04] <Musashi73> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13085575/
[20:04] <Musashi73> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13085575/
[20:11] <krabador> Musashi73, modifica GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet" in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=\"!windows 2012\""
[20:11] <krabador> Musashi73, salvi , chiudi
[20:11] <krabador> sudo update-grub
[20:11] <krabador> riavvia
[20:11] <Musashi73> questa modifica dove la devo scrivere?
[20:13] <krabador> sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[20:13] <vind76> scusate nello scaricare il pacchetto dkms per broadcom b43, ce ne sono diversi
[20:13] <krabador> dentro il documento che si apre
[20:13] <Musashi73> ok
[20:14] <cristian_c> !broadcom
[20:14] <ubot-it> Dispositivi senza fili Broadcom http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Broadcom
[20:14] <Marcellocomehere> certo che siete molto educati qui eh
[20:14] <vind76> si, ma mi apre tutti questi http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=i386&searchon=names&keywords=dkms
[20:15] <krabador> Marcellocomehere, sono volontari
[20:16] <krabador> non sono obbligati a fare nulla
[20:16] <vind76> il primo รจ quello che contiene tutto?
[20:16] <Musashi73> adesso riavvio
[20:17] <krabador> Musashi73, hai salvato
[20:17] <Musashi73> si
[20:17] <krabador> Musashi73, e dato sudo update-grub , dopo la modifica?
[20:17] <Musashi73> si
[20:17] <krabador> ok, riavvia
[20:17] <Musashi73> ok, a dopo
[20:18] <cristian_c> vind76: devi solo scaricare il pacchetto dkms
[20:18] <cristian_c> i pacchetti a scendere hanno nomi diversi, se hai notato
[20:19] <krabador> vind76, dkms per la tua versione, รจ tutto scritto
[20:19] <vind76> e mannaggia mi apre tutti quelli, dove sbaglio...io ho preso quello Package broadcom-sta-dkms
[20:20] <cristian_c> 'mi aprE
[20:20] <cristian_c> e'
[20:20] <cristian_c> ?
[20:21] <cristian_c> vind76: nel link che hai postato, c'รจ una serie di pacchetti elencati
[20:21] <cristian_c> solo il primo รจ il pacchtto dkms, ovvero quello che ti serve
[20:21] <vind76> lo lancio mi dice dpkg:problemi con le dipendenze impediscono la configurazione di broadcom-sta -dkms
[20:21] <Marcellocomehere> ho capito che sono voltari infatti ho proprio detto che sono molto educati!
[20:22] <krabador> !chat | Marcellocomehere
[20:22] <ubot-it> Marcellocomehere: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[20:22] <vind76> ok, ho capito dove ho sbagliato......riprovo
[20:24] <Marcellocomehere> krabador credo che la disinstallazione di ubuntu sia eccome inerente!
[20:24] <krabador> Marcellocomehere, "<Marcellocomehere> ho capito che sono voltari infatti ho proprio detto che sono molto educati!" questo no.
[20:24] <Marcellocomehere> eccome invece
[20:24] <Marcellocomehere> nessuno risponde sto chiedendo da un'ora
[20:25] <krabador> !paga | Marcellocomehere
[20:25] <ubot-it> Marcellocomehere: se il supporto volontario non ti รจ stato di aiuto sappi che Canonical, casamadre ubuntu, offre un servizio h24 di assistenza a pagamento: http://www.ubuntu.com/management , siamo sicuri che potrai avere tutto l'aiuto tecnico necessario, offrendo inoltre sostentamento ad Ubuntu!
[20:26] <Marcellocomehere> krabador non lo sapevo ti ringrazio per questa dritta ma...questo non cambia la poca educazione anzi la sottolinea!
[20:26] <Sailor_moon> ciao a tutti :P
[20:26] <krabador> Marcellocomehere, รจ la tua, quella di frignare per una risposta non obblicata
[20:26] <krabador> Marcellocomehere, non รจ un call center qui
[20:26] <krabador> !ciao | Sailor_moon
[20:26] <ubot-it> Sailor_moon: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[20:26] <Marcellocomehere> ktabador non credo invece dimostri anche te di essere scostumato
[20:27] <krabador> Marcellocomehere, sudo apt-get install pastbinit
[20:27] <sbasso> ciao a tutti
[20:27] <krabador> Marcellocomehere, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:27] <krabador> Marcellocomehere, sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:27] <Marcellocomehere> buona serata e aprite le vostre menti vi servirร
[20:27] <krabador> Marcellocomehere,in bocca al lupo per tutto
[20:27] <krabador> peccato
[20:27] <Musashi73> all'avvio mi appare questa schermata
[20:27] <Musashi73> http://postimg.org/image/9lgn2wbur/
[20:28] <Musashi73> http://postimg.org/image/qfklkwa3j/
[20:28] <krabador> Musashi73, ti ho fatto provare i parametri prima, apposta per evitare problemi, se hai incollato correttamente il paramentro nella linea del file di prima
[20:28] <sbasso> Musashi73: cosรฌ sovrapposta si capisce poco
[20:29] <sbasso> Musashi73: meglio grazie
[20:29] <krabador> Musashi73, deve fare la stessa cosa di quando l'hai inserito a mano, per poi premere f10
[20:29] <krabador> Musashi73, รจ la normalissima schermata verbose, di systemd
[20:29] <Sailor_moon> sono tipo 6 anni che non uso piรน linux e qualche anno che non avevo pi
[20:29] <Musashi73> le immagini scorrono e quindi รจ difficile mettere a fuoco
[20:29] <krabador> che , senza quiet splash, il sistema ti mostra
[20:29] <Sailor_moon> ร รนรน un pc xD
[20:29] <Sailor_moon> ahia
[20:30] <krabador> Musashi73, il sitema da errori, o si blocca?
[20:30] <sbasso> Musashi73: a me sembra tutto normale
[20:30] <Musashi73> non da errori, scorre fino a quando finisce i controlli [OK]
[20:30] <krabador> Musashi73, leggi le linee che ti ho scritto
[20:31] <krabador> Musashi73, se non hai errori, o blocchi รจ tutto normale
[20:31] <Musashi73> quindi ad ogni avvio รจ normale vedere tutte quelle stringhe di comando e di controllo [OK]...
[20:31] <Musashi73> prima non si vedevano
[20:32] <krabador> Musashi73, si , lo faceva anche quando te l'ho fatto fare da grub
[20:32] <krabador> in quanto ti facevo cancellare quiet splash, ricordi?
[20:32] <krabador> gli ok verdi non sono confortevoli?
[20:33] <Musashi73> sicuramente :-)
[20:33] <Musashi73> ma vedere tutte quelle stringhe scorrevoli mi rende un po' preoccupato
[20:33] <vind76> niente mi continua a dire pacchetto dkms non installato.......
[20:34] <krabador> Musashi73, sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[20:34] <Musashi73> fatto
[20:35] <krabador> Musashi73, modifica GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=\"!windows 2012\"" in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=\"!windows 2012\""
[20:35] <krabador> salva
[20:35] <krabador> chiudi
[20:35] <cristian_c> !parametriavvio | Musashi73
[20:35] <ubot-it> Musashi73: Parametri per avvio da live cd: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/ParametriAvvio | vedi anche https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[20:35] <krabador> Musashi73, sudo update-grub
[20:35] <cristian_c> ci sono spiegate alcune cose
[20:35] <krabador> Musashi73, e ti risparmi il tavor
[20:38] <cristian_c> vind76: ma che hai fatto?
[20:41] <Sailor_moon> ehm
[20:42] <krabador> !chiedi | Sailor_moon
[20:42] <ubot-it> Sailor_moon: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilitร ). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderร :-)
[20:42] <krabador> la telepatia non รจ molto diffusa
[20:42] <Sailor_moon> ragazzi....in definitiva non uso linux da tantissimo tempo, e su questo pc che mi hanno dato ho installato un cd vecchissimo di ubuntu 10
[20:43] <ioria> wow
[20:43] <Sailor_moon> come devo fare per aggiornare etc...o.o una volta sapevo usare il terminale sob
[20:43] <Sailor_moon> ora non mi ricordo una mazza
[20:43] <krabador> Sailor_moon, lo togli
[20:43] <Sailor_moon> :(
[20:43] <krabador> Sailor_moon, usi un linguaggio civile
[20:43] <krabador> Sailor_moon, scarichi una iso recente
[20:43] <krabador> fai un supporto di installazione
[20:43] <krabador> !iso | Sailor_moon
[20:43] <ubot-it> Sailor_moon: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[20:43] <Sailor_moon> whoa, una mazza รจ incivile? ziobono
[20:44] <krabador> !usbwin | Sailor_moon
[20:44] <ubot-it> Sailor_moon: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperร di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma puรฒ anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[20:44] <krabador> Sailor_moon, questo canale ha il log, parla in italiano per favore
[20:44] <Sailor_moon> sto parlando in italiano perfetto
[20:44] <krabador> Sailor_moon, non proprio
[20:44] <Sailor_moon> siete simpatici come sempre
[20:44] <krabador> ma sicuramente stai trollando
[20:44] <Sailor_moon> che b ei tempi
[20:45] <Sailor_moon> si, confermo che siete gradevoli proprio come 6-7 anni fa
[20:45] <Sailor_moon> d'accordo grazie mille
[20:45] <Sailor_moon> in effetti mi conviene scaricare su usb
[20:46] <Sailor_moon> vabbรจ
[20:46] <sbasso> krabador: ma non basta un `sudo apt-get dist-uprade` dopo aver cambiato le source?
[20:47] <vind76> canonica offr assistenza anche a privati?
[20:47] <krabador> si possono mettere i server, eol, ma installare qualcosa di supportato รจ meglio
[20:47] <krabador> vind76, certo
[20:48] <vind76> sai dirmi come contattarli?
[20:48] <sbasso> vind76: ma chiedi qua prima no?
[20:48] <krabador> vind76, ma tu lavori per un call center, che รจ un azienda
[20:48] <krabador> vind76, quindi non c'รจ nessun problema
[20:49] <vind76> krabador, ti ho giร detto che non รจ il mio e che รจ un progetto interno sperimentale
[20:49] <krabador> vind76, si, ma sei qui per problemi con uno dei loro computer, no?
[20:49] <vind76> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:50] <krabador> vind76, tutte le formule di supporto aziendale ed ai privati , le trovi sul sito ufficiale internazionale
[20:50] <vind76> รจ il mio personale
[20:50] <vind76> ho scaricato tutti pacchetti ma continua a darmi errore sul dpkg
[20:52] <vind76> mi potete suggerire qualcosa altro?
[20:53] <cristian_c> vind76: anche asterisk lo installi sul tuo pc per motivi personali?
[20:53] <krabador> posta l'errore che ricevi
[20:54] <vind76> si certo, devo fare dei test personali
[20:54] <cristian_c> vind76: solo dkms e quelli nella lista del wiki devi scaricare
[20:54] <cristian_c> gli altri non servono
[20:55] <krabador> vind76, ti sei messo nella sezione apposta del wiki, di installazione offline, del driver che serve per la scheda, che puoi verificare all'inizio della pagina wiki ?
[20:57] <vind76> si kraba, io ho bcm 4311 802.11a/b/g broadcom [14e4: 4312 rev02
[20:57] <krabador> !chi | vind76
[20:57] <ubot-it> vind76: se stai parlando con qualcuno in particolare, per rendere piรน leggibile il canale ti consiglio di inserire il suo nickname in quello che dici (puoi usare il completamento premendo il tasto tab)
[20:58] <vind76> kabra, sono andato qui: Installazione driver proprietari STA senza connessione internet
[20:58] <vind76> Verificare che la propria scheda sia supportata dai driver STA.
[20:58] <vind76> Da un computer con accesso a internet recarsi alla pagina http://packages.ubuntu.com dove potranno essere scaricati i pacchetti:
[20:58] <vind76> dkms
[20:58] <vind76> patch
[20:58] <vind76> fakeroot
[20:59] <sbasso> che brutto gesto
[21:00] <krabador> sbasso, quale?
[21:01] <sbasso> l'antiflood :), krabador
[21:01] <vind76> scusami si era disconesso
[21:02] <jester-> vind76: ti ha buttato fuori ubot-it per spam
[21:02] <vind76> allora kabra: quando lancio il dkms mi restituisce il seguente errore:
[21:02] <krabador> !chi | vind76
[21:02] <ubot-it> vind76: se stai parlando con qualcuno in particolare, per rendere piรน leggibile il canale ti consiglio di inserire il suo nickname in quello che dici (puoi usare il completamento premendo il tasto tab)
[21:02] <krabador> al prossimo finisci fuori
[21:03] <vind76> che cosa ho fatto?
[21:04] <sbasso> vind76, quando metti il nome completalo con il tasto tab
[21:06] <vind76> krabador: dkpg: problemi con le dipendenze impedisocno la configurazione di dkms: dkms dipende da gcc; comunque il pacchetto gcc non รจ installato; dkms dipende da make| build-essentia| dpk-dev
[21:06] <cristian_c> vind76: praticamente mancano dipendenze
[21:07] <wuolfit> ciao a tutti belli e brutti
[21:07] <cristian_c> vind76: ma tu, hai installato la versione minimaรฒe?
[21:07] <vind76> io ho installato la vesrione standard dal dvd ubuntu server 14.04 lts
[21:08] <vind76> dove stanno ste dipendenze?
[21:08] <vind76> ho aggiunto openssh, lamp server e samba
[21:08] <krabador> !ciao | wuolfit
[21:08] <ubot-it> wuolfit: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[21:09] <wuolfit> avrei il seguente quesito....voglio monitorare tramite un server il traffico di una rete e filtrare tale traffico....esempio bloccare i torrent impedire di vedere film o partite via streaming ecc sapete quali sono i programmi da installare insieme a webmin per vedere chi usa il maggior numero di traffico e fare cio' che ho appena descritto?
[21:10] <cristian_c> vind76: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Broadcom#Installare_i_driver_open_source_b43.2Fb43legacy_senza_connessione_internet
[21:10] <wuolfit> ciao krabador e ciao ubot-it
[21:11] <krabador> wuolfit, su che sistema ?
[21:11] <vind76> cristian_c: mi stai dicendo di installare gli open?
[21:11] <wuolfit> ubuntu server
[21:11] <krabador> wuolfit, quale?
[21:11] <wuolfit> 14.10
[21:11] <cristian_c> vind76: sono semplicemente due driver divesi
[21:11] <krabador> wuolfit, stai usando una versione non piu' supportata
[21:11] <wuolfit> ops scusa correggo 14.04
[21:12] <cristian_c> vind76: e ilcm4311 li supporta entrambi, quindi fai prima a installarti i driver b43
[21:12] <wuolfit> era l'ultima lts
[21:12] <vind76> cristian_c:quindi ho sbagliato driver...ok faccio sta prova
[21:12] <cristian_c> piuttosto che trafficare con le dipendenze richieste da sta
[21:13] <krabador> wuolfit, beh, allora, la risposta alla tua domanda praticamente la danno nei corsi di formazione per amministratore di rete
[21:13] <cristian_c> vind76: in generale non รจ sbagliato, ma in assenza di qualsiasi connessione, puรฒ essere un problema
[21:13] <vind76> cristian_c:ok dai provo ...grazie
[21:13] <krabador> wuolfit, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[21:13] <wuolfit> daccordo...ma visto che devo configurarlo entro lunedi' non credo di aver tempo di seguire il corso....
[21:14] <wuolfit> grazie krabador
[21:16] <krabador> wuolfit, ti affideresti ad un medico volontario che ha tempo fino a lunedi' per imparare l'anatomia umana?
[21:16] <vind76> cristian_c: allora nel dvd scaricato manca proprio b43-fwcutter
[21:17] <wuolfit> beh no...ma ti affideresti all'unico programmatore dell'azienda se il tuo sistemista e' a casa con il gesso????
[21:17] <wuolfit> ed il cliente vuole il server per "domani"
[21:19] <krabador> wuolfit, un azienda seria non lo farebbe
[21:19] <krabador> ma
[21:19] <krabador> !chat | wuolfit
[21:19] <ubot-it> wuolfit: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[21:19] <sbasso> wuolfit: pm
[21:23] <vind76> cristian_c: provo a scarcarmelo da un altro pc e poi lo copio nella cartella home...
[21:24] <cristian_c> vind76: 14.04?
[21:26] <vind76> si
[21:26] <vind76> server i386
[21:26] <cristian_c> vind76: dovrebbe esserci comunque quel pacchetto sul dvd
[21:27] <cristian_c> perรฒ, come hai detto, puoi scaricare il pacchetto per trusty da un altro pc
[21:27] <vind76> guarda mi sembra davvero strano anche ame, nel percorso indicato nn ci sta
[21:34] <jester-> vind76: attaccare il cavo eth non fa figo?
[21:34] <jester-> a parte che un server in wifi non ci sta ne in cielo ne in terra
[21:43] <Musashi73> ragazzi, ho installato cairo dock e ad ogni avvio mi appare la finstra http://postimg.org/image/5tuiyok8n/
[21:43] <Musashi73> c'รจ un modo per evitare di farla apparire ad ogni avvio? Grazie
[21:44] <jester-> metti la spunta e scegli no
[21:45] <Musashi73> giร fatto
[21:45] <Musashi73> ma niente
[21:45] <Musashi73> con la spunta ho messo no
[21:45] <Musashi73> senza spunta ho messo si
[21:46] <Musashi73> dall' applicazione di avvio ho messo il comando -o
[21:46] <Musashi73> ma spunta smepre
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-es
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[03:26] <rober> buenas
[03:26] <rober> necesito ayuda
[03:27] <rober> hay alguien?
[03:43] <m4v> !alguien | rober
[03:45] <rober> ok. necesito cambiar la codificacion de un archivo de utf-8 a ascii
[03:46] <rober> ya intente abriendo el archivo con un editor de texto pero no se puede
[03:47] <m4v> probรก con ยซiconv -f utf-8 -t ascii archivoยป en una consola
[03:49] <m4v> ah, creo que el comando te escupe el archivo convertido en la terminal, para guardarlo en otro archivo ponele al final " > archivo_nuevo"
[03:50] <rober> iconv -f utf-8 -t ascii archivo archivo-nuevo
[03:50] <rober> asi seria la sintaxis?
[03:52] <m4v> falta el > para redirigir la salida a archivo-nuevo
[03:52] <m4v> "iconv (blah blah) archivo > archivo_nuevo
[03:52] <rober> ok lo voy a probar
[03:54] <rober> rober@rober-TWH:~/Descargas$ iconv -f utf-8 -t ascii a.srt > a_nuevo.srt
[03:54] <rober> iconv: secuencia de entrada ilegal en la posiciรณn 255
[03:54] <rober> "secuencia ilegal"
[03:56] <rober> en que estoy fallando?
[04:02] <m4v> no debe ser un archivo utf
[04:03] <m4v> ejecuta ยซfile a.srtยป para ver que encoding tiene
[04:03] <rober> si, xq cuando voy a windows lo abro con el editor y lo cambio a ascii muy facilmente. Pero en ubuntu no encuentro la manera de cambiarlo
[04:04] <rober> a.srt: ISO-8859 text, with CRLF line terminators
[04:04] <m4v> iso8859 es ascii
[04:04] <rober> perdon tengo que cambiarlo a ANSI
[04:05] <m4v> ya estรก en ascii ese subtรญtulo, no serรก que el reproductor espera un subtitulo en utf?
[04:05] <rober> tengo que pasar de utf-8 a ansi.
[04:06] <m4v> pero como vimos recien, ese subtitulo esta en ascii, no utf
[04:07] <rober> tengo el problema que en los subtitulos me aparecen esos simbolos raros. Tengo entendido que es por la codificacion de los caracteres
[04:08] <rober> yo lo soluciono yendo a windows y con el editor de texto lo hago muy facilmente, pero en ubuntu no me lo permite
[04:09] <m4v> Ubuntu te lo permite, lo hago todo el tiempo.
[04:10] <rober> lo haces con gedit ?
[04:11] <m4v> si estas reproduciendo la pelicula en ubuntu, normalmente espera los subtitulos en utf, no ascii. En general todo es utf en linux, no como en windows que usa diferentes ISO- segun el idioma
[04:12] <rober> yo bajo los subtitulos y despues me voy a windows y los paso de utf-8 a ANSI
[04:12] <rober> y ahi se soluciona el problema
[04:12] <rober> pero es una perdida de tiempo
[04:13] <rober> miro las peliculas en smplayer
[04:15] <m4v> fijate en las preferencias del smplayer, que codificaciรณn tiene configurada para subtitulos
[04:16] <m4v> en Ubuntu (en linux en general) usa todo en UTF, que es lo normal. Ascii es obsoleto ya
[04:20] <rober> ahi funciono!!!!!
[04:21] <rober> iso-xxxx y cambie a utf-8 y solucionado el problema!!!
[04:22] <rober> resulto ser mas sencillo de lo que creia.
[04:22] <m4v> mmh, que raro, pensรฉ que estarรญa en utf8 ya por defecto. Bueno, no importa.
[04:23] <rober> muchisimas gracias!!!
[04:23] <m4v> de nada
[15:25] <installer> una ayuda, no se lo que busco, quiero que el formato de una celda se repita cada que valla a ser editada, osea que crezca el documento solo si tiene datos.
[15:56] <GridCube> installer: formato condicional
[15:57] <GridCube> o queres un formulario que rellene una hoja?
[16:11] <installer> GribCube, quiero que, solo exista una celda con x columnas, y que cada que introdusca datos en A3 por ejemplo
[16:12] <installer> en A4 se cop el formato de A3
[16:13] <installer> Para cuando solo tengan datos de Ax a Ay, solo se impriman esas, no mas... son un inรบtil usando calc , ok
[17:09] <marcv> Hola. Estoy intentando instalar el paquete redis-server y cuando hago apt-get install redis-server, tengo dos problemas.
[17:09] <marcv> Primero me dice "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libjemalloc1 redis-tools redis-server"
[17:09] <marcv> Y si no hago caso al warning e instalo igual, me da un "Err http://ftp.udc.es/ubuntu/ trusty/universe libjemalloc1 amd64 3.5.1-2" para los tres paquetes del warning
[17:10] <marcv> Soy un newbie de apt. Alguien me podria dar una pista para arreglar esto?
[17:15] <metallic> marcv, a mรญ no me da ningรบn problema (en Debian)
[17:16] <marcv> metallic: yo en Ubuntu server 14.04
[17:17] <metallic> marcv, has probado cambiando el repositorio a usar?
[17:17] <marcv> es que no sรฉ ni como hacer esto...
[17:18] <metallic> no sรฉ muy bien cรณmo va, pero creo que los repos tienen una huella digital (gpg creo que se llama) para asegurar que se estรก accediendo al repositorio de verdad
[17:18] <metallic> lo puedes ver en "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d"
[17:19] <marcv> esta carpeta la tengo vacia
[17:19] <metallic> marcv, te iba a pedir ahora mismo que me enseรฑaras lo que habรญa XD
[17:19] <metallic> mmm... Pues no sรฉ cรณmo arreglar eso... Voy a mirar algo ;)
[17:24] <metallic> marcv, estoy ojeando esta pรกgina de momento, quieres probar la segundo respuesta propuesta?
[17:24] <metallic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys
[17:26] <metallic> marcv?
[17:29] <marcv> si perdona estaba en otro chat
[17:29] <marcv> voy a ver esto
[17:30] <metallic> bรกsicamente es que escribas "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -fv"
[17:30] <marcv> esto quรฉ me va a hacer?
[17:30] <marcv> borrar quรฉ?
[17:31] <metallic> marcv, haz un "ls /var/lib/apt/lists/" verรกs que esos archivos contienen info sobre los repositorios
[17:31] <metallic> no pasa nada porque haciendo "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade" se regenerarรกn
[17:32] <metallic> y espero que esta vez con las claves, si no... Probaremos la primera soluciรณn del enlace ;)
[17:33] <metallic> haz "cat" sobre alguno de ellos si no te fรญas XD
[17:34] <marcv> pero no se va a perder nada?? Es que estoy en un servidor que no es mio, no me gustaria que el admin, cuando vuelva, se queje de que he bnorrado algo (repositorio, u otra cosa)
[17:36] <metallic> marcv, no pasa nada porque esa informaciรณn la actualizas cada vez que actualizas la lista de repositorios. Concretamente contiene listas de paquetes, informaciรณn sobre ellos, etc...
[17:36] <metallic> esa informaciรณn se autogenera por apt. Lo que sรญ es mรกs delicado es modificar el archivo "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[17:36] <metallic> pero eso no lo vamos a hacer si no hace falta ;)
[17:39] <marcv> metallic: he hecho las dos lines esas. Ahora cuando hago sudo apt-get install redis-server, me dice simplemente E: Unable to locate package redis-server
[17:41] <metallic> marcv, has escrito "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[17:41] <marcv> yes
[17:41] <metallic> y quรฉ te ha dicho la computadora?
[17:42] <marcv> me ha dicho: http://pastie.org/private/sobohuim0vrlncnxvlh8g
[17:44] <metallic> marcv, fรญjate en las lรญneas 4 y 6 por ejemplo... gpg ;). Ok, parece que hay un problema con unas secciones voy a ojearlo
[17:48] <metallic> marc, estoy en "http://ftp.udc.es" y no logro localizar la distribuciรณn ubuntu
[17:49] <metallic> me parece extraรฑo...
[17:50] <metallic> marcv, puedes enviar el contenido de "/etc/apt/sources.list"?
[17:50] <metallic> parece que hay problemas solo con algunas partes...
[17:51] <marcv> aqui tienes: http://pastie.org/private/rs1s8hag9aunji3ziyrqda
[17:54] <metallic> no sรฉ marcv... No veo nada raro a priori, voy a usar esos repositorios en mi Ubuntu a ver
[17:54] <marcv> he buscado el sources.list por defecto de ubuntu 14.04, y me lleva a un a especie de generador: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/. Alli me regenra una lista con http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ y no http://ftp.udc.es. alo mejor podria cambiar esto (haciendo un backup del sources.list actual, claro)
[17:56] <metallic> marcv, seguramente el generador automรกtico te da un repositorio espaรฑol primario (importante por asรญ decirlo) luego hay otros como "http://ftp.caliu.cat"
[17:56] <metallic> y tรบ tambiรฉn usas un ppa que no te darรก el generador automรกtico
[17:57] <metallic> el puppet no sรฉ quรฉ
[17:58] <marcv> digamos que cambio el sources.list por el que me da el generador รฉse. Habra problemas despues para actualizar paquetes que se instalaraon antes con el sources.list actual ?
[17:58] <marcv> quiero decir que un pรขquete que se instalo, en su tiempo, con un souirces.list "x" se puede actualizart igual con un sources.list "y" ?
[18:00] <metallic> marcv, no siempre y cuando aparezca en repositorios de ambas listas. Es decir, imagina que tu instalas un paquete de la secciรณn "contrib" pero en luego modificas el "sources.list" para suprimir esa secciรณn, obviamente ya no estarรก disponible en tu lista de paquetes para poder actualizarlo o ver informaciรณn aunque se quedarรก instalado
[18:01] <metallic> perdรณn Sร siempre y cuando...
[18:02] <metallic> por cierto marcv, a mรญ tambiรฉn me da error al actualizar la lista de paquetes con el repositorio que tรบ usas
[18:02] <marcv> vale pero si instalo apache desde ftp.udc, lo pdrรฉ actualizar desde http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?
[18:02] <marcv> (estando apache en los dos, claro,cosa que me parece segura)
[18:03] <marcv> vale, pues me parece que tengo que cambiar el sources.list. Voy a hacer un backup del actual e probar con el nuevo. Asi siempre tendrรฉ posibilidades de volver hacia atras
[18:03] <metallic> marcv, sรญ claro, un repositorio contiene paquetes, y todos han de contener los mismos (ya sea el que hospeda udc o caliu)
[18:05] <metallic> tรบ luego ya te descargas las listas de paquetes y los paquetes del servidor concreto que sea :)
[18:05] <metallic> marcv, sustituye solo aquellos que diga "ftp.udc.es"
[18:09] <marcv> Ha funcionado
[18:10] <marcv> redis-server esta instaldo
[18:10] <marcv> muchismisa gracias por tu ayuda
[18:10] <marcv> muchisimas
[18:10] <metallic> marcv, espero que hayas aprendido algo ;)
[18:10] <marcv> la verda que si
[18:10] <metallic> y lo de hacer una copia de seguridad de la lista de repositorios es una muy buena prรกctica :)
[18:11] <metallic> posiblemente se deba el fallo a que el servidor al que te conectabas estรฉ de mantenimiento o no sรฉ... :-/
[18:12] <marcv> me imagino que sera algo asi, pero igual me fio mal de una url que ponga ubuntu.com que de otra que ponga udc.es (que ni sรฉ lo que es)
[18:12] <marcv> lo voy a deja asi, y si se quejan, que vuelvan con el source.list antiguo
[18:13] <marcv> Bueno, me voy. Muchas gracias de nuevo. Un saludo
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2015-11-02-#juju
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[09:16] <jamespage> morning folks
[09:22] <jamespage> gnuoy, need something brainless todo this morning so working through http://pad.ubuntu.com/tox-charm-landings
[09:23] <gnuoy> jamespage, ok, enjoy!
[09:53] <Prabakaran> Hello Team,
[09:55] <Prabakaran> I have created new bug for my charm and after linking bug id to the trunk branch in the lauchpad i am not able to see my charm in the review queue. Could you please advise on the same?
[16:40] <Prabakaran> Hello Team, I have created new bug for my charm and after linking bug id to the trunk branch in the lauchpad i am not able to see my charm in the review queue. Could you please advise on the same?
[16:47] <lazypower> Prabakaran : How long ago did you submit?
[16:49] <lazypower> Prabakaran : Can you link me ot your branch you're submitting?
[16:51] <Odd_Bloke> I'm seeing strange behaviour when running one of my hooks in debug-hooks; it looks like an exception that is caught in normal operation (and when I pdb through the code in debug-hooks!) is not being caught...
[16:52] <Odd_Bloke> Ohhhh, no I'm not, I'm seeing the output come out.
[16:52] <Odd_Bloke> OK, that's unexpected but otherwise fine.
[17:26] <lazypower> Odd_Bloke well, glad it was self resolving
[17:27] <lazypower> Odd_Bloke but that smells of a race condition when a pdb() fixes it where normal hook execution tanks
[17:29] <Odd_Bloke> lazypower: It was really user error; I was seeing stderr from a failed subprocess call, but not the stdout from a subsequent successful one (because it was captured, I now realise :p).
[17:29] <Odd_Bloke> lazypower: So I incorrectly inferred the latter hadn't happened.
[17:43] <Odd_Bloke> I'm looking at the Jenkins charm: you can configure it with an admin password, or it can generate one for you.
[17:43] <Odd_Bloke> However, it doesn't store the generated password as config, which means that when it tries to push configuration out to extension relations, they get an empty password.
[17:44] <Odd_Bloke> (Making it impossible for them to connect to Jenkins to do anything)
[17:44] <Odd_Bloke> Is the correct way of handling this for the charm to write to the place that hookenv.config(...) pulls from, or...?
[17:46] <Odd_Bloke> (The problem here being that the password gets salted before writing, so pulling it out of the file it's written to won't work)
[17:47] <Odd_Bloke> lazypower: (^ ?)
[17:48] <lazypower> Odd_Bloke it should use unitdata.kv
[17:48] <lazypower> Odd_Bloke if the config password is empty, read the generated key from unitdata, and pass that along the wire
[17:51] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, sigh, of course charm-helpers in the charm is too old.
[18:22] <Prabakaran> I have submitted my charm last week thursday. And my charm branch link is "https://code.launchpad.net/~ibmcharmers/charms/trusty/ibm-platform-rtm/trunk"
[18:23] <Prabakaran> https://code.launchpad.net/~ibmcharmers/charms/trusty/ibm-platform-rtm/trunk
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"channel": "#juju"
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2015-11-02-#xubuntu
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[05:14] <andystar> I have some questions about Xubuntu, but I don't think there are enough people in here to answer my question.
[05:14] <andystar> Most people will be idle.
[06:31] <andystar> @mark
[12:20] <wiredfool1> is there a way to tile/snap windows to 1/3 width in xubuntu 14.04? I've got the half working, but I'd rather have narrower windows on the big screen.
[14:50] <bodom> Hi there! In lightdm, what's the difference between "xfce" and "xubuntu-session"?
[14:51] <cfhowlett> bodom, strictly speaking xfce is the desktop environment. xubuntu-session = xfce + xubuntu apps
[14:52] <bodom> cfhowlett: but when i start xfce i have xubuntu apps anyway
[14:53] <cfhowlett> bodom, because you have xubuntu.
[14:54] <bodom> cfhowlett: so there is no difference?
[14:54] <cfhowlett> bodom, if you installed xfce4 on ubuntu that would *not* be xubuntu because no xubuntu apps.
[14:58] <bodom> cfhowlett: thank you
[14:58] <cfhowlett> bodom, happy2help!
[15:54] <krytarik> bodom: I think this explains it pretty well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2105703&p=12459424#post12459424
[15:59] <bodom> krytarik: thank you, it's very clear now
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.475588
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"andystar",
"bodom",
"cfhowlett",
"krytarik",
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"channel": "#xubuntu"
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-uk
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[00:02] <daftykins> isn't that basically chrome-by-another-name now?
[00:04] <diddledan_> true
[00:04] <diddledan_> it's moved with chrome to the blink thingy instead of apple's webkit
[06:06] <Guest29504> morning all
[06:06] <MooDoo> morning even
[06:11] <mapps> morning
[06:15] <MooDoo> how are you mapps?
[06:16] <mapps> all good, andd you?
[06:16] <mapps> just watching homeland;D
[06:16] <MooDoo> think I've watched a couple of episodes of that
[06:17] <mapps> i was surprised by this series..theyre using real current stories ISIS..overthrong assad etc
[06:17] <mapps> surely this gives ISIS more attention
[06:19] <MooDoo> yeah probably
[06:20] <mapps> having no net for a while sucked
[06:20] <mapps> behind on films and tv:)
[06:25] <MooDoo> I must admit I was on hols last week, so I've binge watched programs I missed
[06:26] <mapps> ;D
[06:26] <mapps> i have tv now yay uk chans..sky ..beIN sports :D
[06:29] <MooDoo> :)
[06:31] <mapps> all uses my net..so when my net died..it died;[
[06:31] <mapps> and wow yesterday big storm so freaking windy scaffolding outside work blew down lol
[06:35] <MooDoo> It's a bit foggy here at the moment.
[06:36] <mapps> heavy rain tonight 8pm onwards
[06:36] <mapps> weird how its so windy and bad rain..then nada
[09:13] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:14] <mapps> morning
[09:16] <davmor2> so this is the tune stuck in my head this morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsdy_rct6uo fantastic tune :)
[09:28] <MooDoo> khowdy davmor2
[09:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: caravan is bedded down for the next 5 months :'(
[09:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: where's the van?
[09:42] <davmor2> MooDoo: storage
[09:43] <MooDoo> ah i get you, next time it's out, and you go away, invite us to come see you :)
[09:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Deviled Egg Day! ๐
[10:09] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: see if this plays for you http://www.popscreen.com/v/6CTEK/Deviled-Eggs
[10:29] * zmoylan-pi settles on coffee and toast instead of boiled eggs or porridge for brekkie
[10:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP-TU0P2Lw4 that one works
[10:32] <davmor2> JamesTait: about a minute in
[10:32] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:34] <JamesTait> davmor2, yeah, the first one didn't work, but the second one did. โบ
[10:34] <JamesTait> davmor2, about 0:54
[10:34] <davmor2> :)
[10:38] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htxZZKv4pMw
[11:49] <foobarry> wonder if we can crowdsource a campaign to ask tesco to hand over teh bootloader keys for hudl2
[11:49] <foobarry> now they've ditched it
[11:50] <zmoylan-pi> good luck
[11:56] <foobarry> i think their android guy has left too
[11:58] <Myrtti> browsed through Amazon's Deals of the Day section, and they've changed the layout of it. Accidentally added 30 Blurays on a wishlist.
[11:58] <Myrtti> from their 2 for ยฃ10 deal bin
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> i never saw a single hudl here in ireland. i was keen to get one for a while
[11:59] <foobarry> still the best tablet for the price
[11:59] <foobarry> although i heard they were stopping them because of screen cracking issues
[12:00] <foobarry> my guess is that they are ditching blinkbox etc and realising they are not amazon
[12:00] <diplo> foobarry: funnily enough I was reading up on that too, yeah lead engineer has gone and 2 of his underlings I believe, no hudl3 is going to come so I'd say we're not going to get anything
[12:00] <foobarry> a real shame as i'd saved vouchers to buy another
[12:00] <diplo> They are, decided in August so I read, and their home broadband
[12:00] <foobarry> they have no reason *not* to release the keys
[12:00] <zmoylan-pi> what's in it for them?
[12:00] <diplo> They don't have the engineers to do it now ?
[12:01] <foobarry> they have some reason to release them as lots of users up the creek without support
[12:01] <foobarry> and 5.1 on the hudl2 just landed and experiencing a few problemw
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> that's not their problem now that they've abandoned them
[12:01] <foobarry> they are still obliged to support those who just bought it
[12:02] <zmoylan-pi> they can replace their defective units with another defective unit till the user gives up or fights for a refund
[12:02] <foobarry> or give back to the users . many other tablets unklock bootloaders
[12:02] <foobarry> now there is no incentive for tesco to lock it, they should
[12:02] <zmoylan-pi> i just don't see tesco been that nice
[12:02] <foobarry> i would even pay to unlock
[12:03] <foobarry> i would also pay to unlock kindle fire
[12:03] <foobarry> i wonder who the android devs were
[12:04] <foobarry> maybe linkedin knows
[12:04] <foobarry> that was quick
[12:04] <foobarry> LinkedIn Member
[12:04] <foobarry> Android Engineer (about to start something new)
[12:05] <foobarry> Past
[12:05] <foobarry> Lead Android Developer at Tesco (hudl)
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> will code for coupons... :-P
[12:59] <foobarry> if you get a speeding ticket, you pay twice. my insurance has gone up loads
[13:02] <awilkins> After ex-wife got one, she found it cheaper to have me on her policy as a second driver than without
[13:08] <foobarry> some insurers don't touch you
[13:08] <foobarry> :'(
[13:08] <foobarry> should have contested it
[13:09] <foobarry> a new meerkat might soothe the pain
[13:20] <Myrtti> yay meerkats
[13:23] <zmoylan-pi> or relax on a nice moomin cushion... http://imgur.com/sZulXCj
[13:33] <foobarry> one of our meerkats has to stay in the box
[13:33] <foobarry> the dog hates it
[13:33] <foobarry> something about the eyes
[13:33] <foobarry> she thinks its a squirrel or meerkat or something
[13:34] <zmoylan-pi> is there a way to transfer the smell of the dog on to the meerkat to help it accept it?
[13:40] <foobarry> i don't think shes a dummy
[13:40] <foobarry> she's bred for ratting
[13:40] <foobarry> although hasn't caught our mouse yet
[13:42] <diddledan_> that's because mouse != rat :-p
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> a dog/cat brought up seperate from other dogs/cats may not learn how to hunt
[13:45] <zmoylan-pi> somewhere in all that picking kitten up by scruff of the neck mother cats impart the information on proper way to bring down a rottweiler :-P
[13:47] <foobarry> my dog loves to chase squirerls and rabbits
[13:47] <foobarry> and has despatched some
[14:54] <diddledan_> hmm, http://techrights.org/2015/10/30/xamarin-vs-robovm-freedom/
[14:55] <zmoylan-pi> ms is your friend...
[15:09] <bashrc> ...or not as the case may be
[15:10] <zmoylan-pi> no no, their pr is all about how they love open source
[15:21] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: therefore we love MS :-p
[15:22] <zmoylan-pi> over THEIR dead body :-P
[15:41] * diddledan_ splits some nets
[15:42] * zmoylan-pi nets somes spills
[16:40] <ujjain-> what are those like candles called that smell?
[16:40] <ujjain-> not candles
[16:43] <ujjain-> ah incense
[16:43] <diddledan_> foggy outside
[16:43] <diddledan_> glad I don't have to walk home today
[16:44] <ali1234> i wish websites like facebook and linked-in had a thing that would tell me why they think i know a person they are suggesting
[16:46] <diddledan_> I think oftentimes they just link you to people who are connected to people you're connected to - two degrees of separation
[16:46] <diddledan_> and of course linkedin loves harvesting addressbooks
[16:47] <diddledan_> that one person you replied to once on a mailing list. yeah linkedin thinks you want to be their business partner
[16:47] <ali1234> i see people and the name is kind of familiar but i don't know why
[16:48] <diddledan_> I wonder if you know me? :-p
[16:48] <diddledan_> linkedin probably could find a way of linking us
[16:49] <diddledan_> I heard nasa are going to release news of a major discovery on mars - they found an object floating in the water... rumours are it's a linkedin email
[16:50] <diddledan_> (that's a joke, btw - there is no announcement that I'm aware of)
[16:50] <ali1234> i see a bunch of people from here on there
[16:51] <ali1234> no dans though
[16:52] <diddledan_> yeah we're probably all on various mailing lists so you might have got email addresses from there into your addressbook which then got harvested
[16:53] <diddledan_> I wonder if the twitter link-up on linkedin has any effect on recommendations, too
[16:53] <ali1234> i'm not ever sure what that means :)
[16:53] <ali1234> i don't use the twitters either
[16:54] <diddledan_> I'm a twitter consumer, not a producer
[16:54] <ali1234> i think some of the people it's showing me are people who i just looked at their profile once
[16:54] <diddledan_> I just watch the feed occasionally
[17:30] <Laney> "this person looked at your profile so now we are suggesting them to you"
[17:48] <awilkins> Encryption : Tories don't know how it works :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11970391/Internet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html
[17:52] <foobarry> ^Tories^Politicians and civil servants
[17:58] <awilkins> Just MEH
[18:39] <ali1234> the funny thing is that microsoft, apple, google etc can just ship us the same crap version of their software that they send to crypto-embargoed terrorist states
[18:44] <zmoylan-pi> at this point is there any crypto secure software that hasn't been backdoored
[18:46] <ali1234> almost all of it?
[18:54] <mapps> csi cyber time;d
[19:52] <davmor2> One, two princes kneel before you That what I said now Princes, princes who adore you !
[20:21] <diddledan_> so that encryption thingy - are they saying that companies must retain full transcripts of communications to correlate against an encrypted version when asked to provide the unencrypted?
[20:26] <diddledan_> they need to MitM all web browsing, too?!
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> it been the uk... both
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> just to be sure
[20:43] <zmoylan-pi> but there's no real change there. sinn fein used to have a site were you could bid for british spy gear they kept finding everywhere...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.491484
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-jp
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[14:35] <Gwendal> hello
[14:36] <Gwendal> I am looking for some local linux help in Kyoto, if by any chance someine is around
[14:37] <Gwendal> just to create a liveusb to investigate some big laptop issue
[14:38] <Gwendal> because I am only there for the week, with only a non-working laptop :)
[14:38] <Gwendal> and with urgent work matters to take care of :(
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.493698
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"Gwendal"
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-de
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[00:13] <Guest80445> k1l, wenn ich mein upgrade fertig habe, dann nochmal do-release-upgrade, richtig?
[00:13] <k1l> ja
[07:18] <Ferulor> guten moprgen
[07:18] <Ferulor> morgen
[07:20] <Ferulor> ich bin auf der suche nach hilfe weil ich mรถchte mehrere ubuntu derivate gleichzeitig auf einer festplatte installieren was muss ich da beachten
[07:21] <Ferulor> mรถchte mir da bitte jemmand helfen
[07:23] <strohalm> die alte nicht รผberschreiben
[07:24] <Ferulor> ich habe ne jungfrรคuliche 1tb festplatte und da mรถchte ich mindestens zwei verschiedene ubuntu derivate nacheinander installieren
[07:25] <Ferulor> hast du mich gemeint strohalm
[07:26] <strohalm> jo
[07:26] <Ferulor> was meinst du mit die alte nicht รผberschreiben
[07:26] <strohalm> dann musst du da n+2 partitionen draufmachen
[07:26] <strohalm> naja wenn du jetzt ein lubuntu drauf installierst und dan direkt an den gleichen platz ein xubuntu, dรผrfte das lubuntu weg sein
[07:27] <Ferulor> ich hatte mir gedacht ich mache ein boot zwei root eine home und eine swap partition ist das gut
[07:28] <stevieh> klingt gut...
[07:28] <Ferulor> die home und die swap partition benutzen beide
[07:28] <strohalm> pass auf falls du so gpt/grub oder efi partition brauchst
[07:28] <Ferulor> und auf der boot werden alle kernels installiert
[07:30] <Ferulor> das einzige was mir noch kopf zerbrechen bereitet ist das weil ja beide derivate die home partition benutzen sollen das es evtl zu komplikationen kommen kรถnnte was verschiedene versionen von programmen die man ja im nachhinein installiert
[07:32] <Ferulor> was sagst du dazu strohalm
[07:35] <Ferulor> strohalm sorry wenn ich frage hast du noch zeit
[07:39] <Ferulor> hat denn sonst noch wer lust und zeit mir kurz frage und antwort zu stehen
[07:40] <strohalm> jo mach doch?
[07:41] <_moep_> schreib halt die frage, wirst du doch dann sehen, ob jmd zeit/lust/wissen hat
[07:41] <strohalm> wenn was bricht, merkst es
[07:42] <Ferulor> ok gut danke strohalm
[07:43] <strohalm> hatte mal n gentoo /debian oder ubuntu/debian oder sonstwas dualboot
[07:43] <strohalm> nur lustige browserplugins oder so, die ins home installiert werden wollen sich neu dingsieren
[07:44] <Ferulor> das klingt ja mal lustig
[15:21] <KlausK> hallo, ich mรถchte ubuntu auf ssd installieren, muss ich dazu den langen wiki-artikel lesen?
[15:22] <k1l_> KlausK: schaden tuts nicht
[15:22] <k1l_> aber wenn du es installierst und ubuntu die ssd erkennt dann macht es schon das meiste automatisch.
[15:27] <KlausK> k1l_, wenn ubuntu alles automatisch macht, dann kann ich sofort loslegen, oder?
[15:35] <David1977> KlausK: wenn, dann ja
[15:35] <David1977> wenn nicht, dann schadet es nicht den Artikel gelesen zu haben, denke ich ;)
[15:47] <jokrebel> das meiste =/= alles
[16:00] <frostschutz> KlausK, SSD kann man einfach so benutzen ohne sich irgendwelche Sorgen machen zu mรผssen. Nur wenn du irgendwelche Fragen dazu hast, lies erst den Artikel, der ist eigentlich ziemlich gut ;)
[16:20] <kotzmeister> exit
[19:22] <waressearcher2> ist jemand hier ?
[19:52] <ring0> ja, einfach fragen :)
[19:53] <waressearcher2> uber ?
[21:26] <jokrebel> natรผrlich Ubuntu-Themen
[21:27] * k1l sets mode: jokrebel +lange_Leitung
grade erst zurรผck gekommen @ k1l
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.507521
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-bugs
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[18:16] <adn34> Hello everyone
[18:17] <adn34> I want to file a bug on Kubuntu
[18:17] <adn34> I am not sure how to do it properly
[18:18] <adn34> It is about Input method item on System settings
[18:18] <adn34> I am not sure how to find out the appropriate package name for it.
[18:20] <adn34> Can anyone help me?
[18:20] <hjd> adn34: Hi :)
[18:21] <adn34> Hello <hjd>
[18:21] <hjd> I'm not that familiar with KDE, but... if you run `ubuntu-bug -w` you can click on the window of the application and apport should find the package name by itself :)
[18:22] <adn34> That's great... let me try... :)
[18:22] <teward> (that should work)
[18:26] <adn34> Yes, it collected some info and started submitting report
[18:26] <adn34> but it didn't let me write any details about the bug
[18:26] <adn34> How will it know what bug it has?
[18:27] <teward> adn34: that happens after it sends the data up to LP
[18:27] <teward> adn34: it'll give you a link or open a Launchpad page, and you can enter data there.
[18:27] <adn34> oh!
[18:27] <adn34> thanks
[18:27] <teward> you're welcome
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.514108
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"adn34",
"hjd",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-bugs"
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2015-11-02-#cloud-init
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[18:55] <nosleep77> hi guys, i'm trying to find a way to create a 2nd eth file (for ex ifcfg-eth1) if the instance has 2 nics. is there a way to automate this?
[19:24] <natorious> hi nosleep77. Is it "ln -s /etc/init.d/net.lo /etc/init.d/net.eth2" ?
[19:24] <natorious> thats what it is on gentoo anyways
[19:28] <nosleep77> natorious: no its centos 6.6
[19:31] <natorious> thats gonna be in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts then. Is it for static or dhcp networking?
[19:35] <natorious> if this is specific to a cloud env too, you could remove the hwaddr and attr lines from your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ehtx and /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file after getting both interfaces working then take snaps in that cloud env to use
[19:41] <natorious> oh, looks like you can pass the network config via cloud-config to set that up for you too
[19:47] <natorious> though the datasource would need to support it to call apply_network. Looks like OpenNebula, NoCloud and ConfigDrive support it
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.516214
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"natorious",
"nosleep77"
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-nz
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[00:09] <hads> morning
[18:53] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:21] <olly> morning
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-tn
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[08:17] <elacheche> Morning!
[09:09] <nabdev> Morning
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-gnome
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[00:58] <Sicnus> really loving ubuntu-gnome ;D
[04:22] <jono_> hey all
[04:23] <jono_> is there a plan for 3.18 to hit the stable ppa?
[07:17] <darkxst> Noskcaj, can you merge gnome-themes-standard and gsettings-desktop-schemas?
[07:18] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I'll have a look in a bit.
[07:19] <darkxst> Noskcaj, thanks
[07:31] <darkxst> Noskcaj, for clarity, mention that the notifications key is used by u-c-c
[07:31] <darkxst> ^gsettings key
[07:31] <darkxst> really u-c-c should port to the new key though
[09:57] <mgedmin> no gpg-agent :(
[10:04] <mgedmin> life without gpg-agent is grim and joyless
[10:09] <mgedmin> woohoo all I have to do is apt install gnupg-agent
[10:09] <mgedmin> and I get a nice gnome-shell popup asking for my passphrase \o/
[12:20] <iiious> after upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10, the animation of gnome-shell seems like low fps in intel graphics, anyone have same problem?
[12:20] <iiious> it seems to be normal in nvidia graphic and fresh install
[12:34] <iiious> darkxst: excuse me, is there any gnome-shell animation low fps/lag report with 15.10?
[12:45] <mgedmin> intel graphics here; no problems with 15.10
[12:48] <iiious> mgedmin: upgrade or fresh install?
[12:48] <mgedmin> upgrade
[12:49] <mgedmin> glxinfo |grep renderer.string => Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile
[12:51] <iiious> Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile here
[12:51] <iiious> before upgrade the animation of show applications is smooth
[12:52] <mgedmin> you mean Super+A?
[12:54] <iiious> yes, application icons fly out from "show applications" button
[12:58] <iiious> tried wayland, didn't work
[12:58] <iiious> under nvidia driver is normal, and friend's fresh install is normal
[12:58] <mgedmin> ok, it's not exactly smooth here
[12:58] <mgedmin> I don't remember it ever being smooth, TBH
[12:59] <mgedmin> I thought you meant all gnome-shell animations
[13:01] <iiious> what I can feel low fps is "show applications" and show activities
[13:01] <iiious> window maximize and minimize seems no problem
[13:02] <iiious> so strange
[13:02] <mgedmin> yeah, I've seen that always
[13:02] <mgedmin> no, not always
[13:02] <mgedmin> more like forever
[13:02] <mgedmin> thing is: after I've been using gnome-shell for a couple of days, say, hitting <Super> feels slow
[13:03] <mgedmin> (as if most frames are dropped)
[13:03] <mgedmin> hitting it again a few times makes it feel fast again
[13:03] <mgedmin> restarting gnome-shell makes it feel fast
[13:06] <iiious> hit <super>, the hit <super>+A many times, the animation low fps
[13:07] <iiious> under 3.14 it's smooth, no frames drop
[13:27] <LinDol_> hi all
[13:30] <iiious> LinDol_: hi
[13:31] <duo8> hi
[13:31] <duo8> how's the new kernel for you guys
[13:36] <iiious> works fine
[13:39] <duo8> it breaks a lot of stuff here so i'm back on 4.0.0
[13:48] <iiious> compile kernel by yourself?
[13:59] <LinDol_> iiious, hi :)
[13:59] <LinDol_> iiious, nice to meet you :)
[13:59] <iiious> LinDol_: :)
[14:32] <satanist|work> hi I have a problem with gnome-controle-center.real, it don't show all options
[14:33] <satanist|work> but gnome-control-center shows all
[16:33] <Springbank> Hi
[16:33] <Springbank> Some of you are speaking french here?
[17:07] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Springbank: Idk, but I speak English.... ;-)
[19:49] <weva> hello everyone, can you help me with critical problems of gnome disk utility please?
[23:01] <weva> hello everyone, can you help me with critical problems of gnome disk utility please?
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-server
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[02:58] <not_roasted> hello friends
[02:59] <not_roasted> I'm repurposing an old laptop to use as a server. When I close the lid, it does nothing, which sounds great (no suspend) but the screen stays lit. How can I control the timeout so the screen goes entirely black?
[03:15] <TJ-> not_roasted: sounds like the backlight is staying on. DPMS is usually the way to control that, but it may require working with the platform ACPI driver too
[03:15] <jak2000> TJ- ! thanks
[03:17] <TJ-> I know there used to be a CLI command to directly control DPMS but can't find it now
[03:17] <jak2000> some problems but solved... 1) i am ejecuted crontab with sudo... :)
[09:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:31] <gulzar> what is a good partiton schema for ubuntu14.04 server edition on a 1TB HDD?
[12:32] <Seveas> gulzar: tiny boot and the rest an lvm pv. Create a small-ish volume (50GB) for the root filesystem and separate volumes for each application you put on it and its data
[12:32] <lordievader> ^ that
[12:32] <Seveas> most importantly, don't allocate all diskspace right away. It's easy to grow an LV, and rather difficult to shrink one.
[12:33] <gulzar> Seveas: it will have only one app for testing , whcih willl be reinstalled every week
[12:33] <Seveas> gulzar: all the more reason to go for this. Deleting the app is as simple as dropping and recreating the LV :)
[12:33] <Seveas> you can even minimize downtime by doing the reinstall in a different lv and swapping it in place :)
[12:34] <ikonia> win 4
[12:34] <gulzar> Seveas: the only fear I have is, the users here are pure MS people and they all use root account , and many times someone do execute 'rm /' and chmod which destroy the system
[12:34] <Seveas> don't give them root access them
[12:34] <Seveas> then*
[12:34] <Seveas> just enough sudo access to do their job.
[12:34] <ikonia> create non-privileged user accounts, or auth against AD
[12:35] <gulzar> Seveas: can't help , the idiots made the app to work on root account. I will change this but will need few months
[12:35] <hjjg> Hi! I use Ubuntu Server 14.04. with Kernel 3.13.0 and ubuntu-zfs on a nfs server.
[12:36] <gulzar> Seveas: so regular snapshots/backups of system other than the current system storage is necessary
[12:36] <lordievader> gulzar: That is simply bad design...
[12:36] <ikonia> Seveas: interesting in your wording around 1 lv per app
[12:36] <ikonia> do you actually mean "per app" or per app file system ?
[12:36] <gulzar> lordievader: yes, and since those MS people think that admin on windows and root on linux is same, my power is low
[12:37] <lordievader> gulzar: Ouch
[12:37] <gulzar> lordievader: :(
[12:37] <gulzar> lordievader: so backups on other server of / is a must
[12:37] <omen> maybe you should do moral choise and make them know that they can't decide about what they don't know about
[12:37] <Seveas> ikonia: I mean /srv/www on a different lv than /var/lib/mysql
[12:37] <omen> dunno if that is good idea, if they are too emotional about it
[12:38] <Seveas> and if you add redis, stick its datadir on an lv
[12:38] <ikonia> Seveas: ok, what I'd expect then
[12:38] <lordievader> gulzar: You could also use snapshots of the root lv
[12:38] <ikonia> Seveas: thought you where suggesting some new "docker style" approach
[12:38] <Seveas> gulzar: lvm also lets you make snapshots, yet another reason to go for this scheme
[12:38] <gulzar> omen: they are like main developers and all think in same way. I handle linux and tools part
[12:38] <Seveas> ikonia: no, I don't do such madness :)
[12:38] <gulzar> Seveas: ok, any doc for this snapshot thing?
[12:38] <ikonia> Seveas: didn't think so, hence the interest
[12:39] <Seveas> gulzar: man lvcreate :)
[12:39] <lordievader> gulzar: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LVM
[12:39] <gulzar> Seveas: :P
[12:39] <gulzar> lordievader: ok
[12:39] <gulzar> so finally what size for these lvm ?
[12:39] <Seveas> gulzar: if you really want to mess with them, add an aufs overlay on top of /, then anything can be rolled back by rebooting :)
[12:39] <hjjg> hjjg: after 370 days of solid and stress free uptime, we installed updates and rebooted the machine. Now we are experiencing serious problems.
[12:39] <gulzar> and /boot
[12:39] <gulzar> Seveas: that aufs went above the head
[12:40] <Seveas> gulzar: /boot 250mb, / 50GB, /data/yourapp whatever you need
[12:40] <Seveas> gulzar: it was more of a joke than an actual suggestion, so don't worry
[12:40] <omen> gulzar: if the app is light, maybe you should try virtualization
[12:40] <gulzar> Seveas: that /data needs to be /home
[12:40] <Seveas> gulzar: /home/yourapp then, not all of /home
[12:40] <hjjg> every 2 to 4 days the server needs to be rebooted. the ZFS datasets are inaccessible (ls on /pool/dataset hangs) and the nfsd-kernel processes are consuming 100% cpu time (sys)
[12:40] <gulzar> omen: no, its bad , super memory hog app, I think even 128GB ram wil be less
[12:41] <hjjg> is it possible to downgrade the kernel and zfs/spl to a specific version?
[12:41] <gulzar> Seveas: how its possible to have tow /homes ?
[12:41] <ikonia> hjjg: if you have access to the repos that hold the older packages sure, other things may depend on the later version
[12:41] <ikonia> as I recall the zfs kernel repo is 3rd party maintained
[12:42] <hjjg> is there someone else who has problems with ZoL and NFS?
[12:42] <Seveas> gulzar: same way as you can have / and /home on a different volume, any subdir can be on a different volume
[12:42] <gulzar> Seveas: one for /home/app and other for /home/user ?
[12:42] <gulzar> Seveas: oh
[12:42] <Seveas> or one for /home and one for /home/app
[12:42] <gulzar> Seveas: ok, got it
[12:42] <ikonia> hjjg: select the older kernel from your grub menu, see if the problem remains
[12:43] <hjjg> ikonia: I am well aware of the fact that this is a third-party repository. I also bug-reported this issue on github.
[12:43] <ikonia> other than that you're going to have to interact with the kernel maintainer team for the ZFS packages
[12:43] <hjjg> ikonia: the problem is that spl-dkms and zfs-dkms are rebuilding all of the installed kernel modules.
[12:43] <ikonia> hjjg: the older kernel should still maintain it's tree
[12:47] <gulzar> Seveas: I just got good news, that /home/app can be anywhere not just inside /home , it just needs max free space and that space is on external drive. No need to use internal HDD
[12:47] <gulzar> Seveas: that external is mounted in /media
[12:47] <gulzar> Seveas: so the only problem is protection of permision and 'rm /'
[12:48] <hjjg> ikonia: dkms does odd things. 3.13.0-36, 3.13.0-57, 3.13.0-65 and 3.13.0-66 are installed but the zfs module has only been built for -65 and -66
[12:48] <hjjg> yes, the corresponding linux-headers package is installed.
[12:48] <gulzar> Seveas: there?
[12:54] <gulzar> !ping
[12:54] <gulzar> Seveas: Thank You
[16:03] <jose> jgrimm: ping
[16:03] <jgrimm> jose, pong
[16:03] <jose> jgrimm: hey! just wondering why the python2 to python3 session was declined
[16:04] <jgrimm> jose, decision was to wrap that into the python3 session already scheduled.
[16:04] <jose> jgrimm: gotcha. thanks! :)
[16:05] <jgrimm> jose, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22568/python3-only-on-the-images/
[16:05] <jgrimm> jose, no problem!
[16:06] <teward> rbasak: ping, if you're around, just need an opinion on something
[16:06] <teward> no rush if you're busy
[17:21] <fuzzywuzzy> Hi I want to change all the file permissions in /var/www to 644. Does this work? find /var/www/ -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[17:23] <Seveas> fuzzywuzzy: chmod -R /var/www og+r,u+rw
[17:23] <Seveas> yes, that changes permissions on dirs to, but only to things you need anyway :)
[17:24] <sarnold> fuzzywuzzy: should work fine
[17:25] <Seveas> sarnold: it'll be slow as hell though, and it's missing quotes
[17:25] <fuzzywuzzy> I'm trying to chmod the FILES to 644
[17:25] <sarnold> Seveas: yeah, xargs or the + thingy would go faster. what quotes is it missing?
[17:25] <fuzzywuzzy> Accidently set to 755
[17:28] <fuzzywuzzy> Am I doing this wrong?
[17:28] <fuzzywuzzy> So says - http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/FileSystemPermissions
[17:29] <Seveas> no, you're doing it right
[17:30] <fuzzywuzzy> trying to match permissions on default Wordpress install on Ubuntu server
[17:34] <fuzzywuzzy> gracias amigos!
[17:34] <fuzzywuzzy> =)
[17:37] <fuzzywuzzy> Can anyone recommend an up to date book on Ubuntu server security?
[17:44] <sarnold> fuzzywuzzy: this guide seemed sane https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/end-user-devices-security-guidance-ubuntu-1404-lts
[17:59] <JanC> sarnold: interesting the UK government is publishing guides like that (even if some of what they write is nitpickable :) )
[17:59] <hotmedal> If I make a pptp vpn server, can multiple clients connect to it at the same time? I tried with Windows (the built in thing it has) and it only allowed one client at a time.
[18:00] <sarnold> JanC: yeah, I was impressed. It's not perfect but so many of those guides are ridiculous.
[18:01] <JanC> there is indeed a lot of good stuff in it, it seems
[18:02] <quantic> JanC: The US DoD does the same. We call them STIGs.
[18:06] <RoyK> hotmedal: yes, but pptp is an insecure protocol, don't use it
[18:07] <quantic> hotmedal: PLEASE don't use PPTP. When we say insecure, we mean "@#$%ing broken."
[18:09] <teward> ^ that
[18:09] <lordievader> hotmedal: Better go with ipsec. Works really well :)
[18:10] <quantic> Or openvpn if you're going through NAT.
[18:10] <lordievader> Ipsec can go through NAT (ESP at least)
[18:10] <quantic> lordievader: but even then it's a pain.
[18:10] <quantic> openvpn is a lot LESS of a pain. :P
[18:11] <lordievader> That is NAT's fault :P
[18:11] <quantic> True, but until we can get rid of IPv4, NAT's kind of a thing.
[18:11] <teward> lordievader: IPSec can go through nat, but OpenVPN behaves better on it, I think
[18:11] <teward> granted, my firewall appliance handles my network's VPN, but meh
[18:11] <teward> :P
[18:15] <jpds> strongswan handles IPsec just fine on Ubuntu and has Windows support
[18:16] <jpds> It's only painful when one doesn't know how it works
[18:16] <lordievader> Indeed and the documentation for Strongswan is nice.
[18:16] <sarnold> <3 strongswan docs :)
[18:28] <hotmedal> i basically need to create a vpn on a windows machine and with its built-in pptp I succeeded but for only one client at a time
[18:29] <hotmedal> can I do something about that?
[18:29] <lordievader> Windows supports ipsec out of the box too.
[18:29] <hotmedal> (I know openVPN is good but my clients would rather use the built in vpn connection)
[18:29] <hotmedal> lordievader: how
[18:29] <teward> lordievader: Win8+ yes
[18:30] <teward> (win7 it likes to complain, from what I've done in testing)
[18:30] <hotmedal> yes I have 8.1
[18:30] <lordievader> hotmedal: https://wiki.strongswan.org/projects/strongswan/wiki/Windows7
[18:30] <lordievader> teward: I use it on my Win7. Bit tricky to get the cert just right but after that, click and go.
[18:31] <teward> lordievader: link please :)
[18:31] <lordievader> teward: See above.
[18:31] <teward> or a guide. 'cause it doesn't work on my Win7
[18:31] <teward> thanks
[18:31] <teward> (works GREAT in Win10 though xD)
[18:31] <lordievader> teward: Windows 7 is very picky about it's certs it needs a couple of flags set else it will give Nat related errors or some wierd stuff like that.
[18:32] <teward> mmm
[18:32] <hotmedal> I don't want to generate certificates and get the clints to use them
[18:32] <hotmedal> just username and password
[18:33] <lordievader> I have no experience with psk.
[18:34] <teward> lordievader: psk is difficult in windows i think in win7 - psk not supported perhaps.
[18:34] <teward> but that's offtopic :)
[18:36] <lordievader> From the page I linked to "or Username/Password using EAP-MSCHAP v2 (case C)." seems psk is supported.
[18:36] * teward shrugs
[18:36] <lordievader> But I have no idea if that is actually using the ipsec psk.
[20:28] <herrkin> hello, I have an issue setting up a service, it does work when I do sudo service xxx start|restart|stop but it wont start up with the system.
[20:28] <herrkin> may anybody help me set it up?
[20:28] <herrkin> it is pm2 I hope some of you is working with it.
[20:29] <sarnold> upstart conf? sysv-init script? systemd service?
[21:28] <EmilienM> zul_, coreycb, jamespage: which repo should I use to setup liberty ? trusty/proposed/liberty or trusty/updates/liberty ?
[21:31] <coreycb> EmilienM, you'll want to run with updates unless you need to test something that's in proposed
[21:32] <EmilienM> coreycb: what is supposed to be stable?
[21:32] <coreycb> EmilienM, -updates is stable
[21:32] <coreycb> EmilienM, so this is stable: add-apt-repository cloud-archive:liberty
[21:32] <EmilienM> cool
[23:16] <ponyofdeath> anyone know why ip route add 10.248.5.0/24 dev bond0.250 src 10.248.5.154 table vlan_250 would give "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted" what do i need compiled in the kernel for that?
[23:16] <ponyofdeath> what is funny is that the command ip route add default via 10.248.5.1 dev bond0.250 table vlan_250 wroks fine
[23:20] <TJ-> ponyofdeath: is 10.248.5.154 assigned to bond0.250 ?
[23:42] <ponyofdeath> TJ-: yup
[23:42] <ponyofdeath> this was working until i compiled kernel 4.3
[23:42] <ponyofdeath> so i think i might be missing a kernel option
[23:42] <TJ-> ponyofdeath: Ahhhh!
[23:43] <TJ-> anything in dmesg/kern.log gives a better clue?
[23:43] <ponyofdeath> nothing
[23:43] <ponyofdeath> that i fixed
[23:43] <ponyofdeath> sorry
[23:43] <ponyofdeath> that i can tell
[23:44] <ponyofdeath> i have everything under policy routing comiled in
[23:46] <TJ-> might be worth enabling some dynamic_debug tracing
[23:48] <ponyofdeath> gonna roll back kernel to see if that was it as i also upgrade with the latest packages for 14.04
[23:49] <ponyofdeath> is ipv6 needed for iproute
[23:50] <sarnold> no, I used iproute2 utilities well before ipv6 was around..
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[05:51] <Mirv> morning
[05:52] <robru> Mirv: hello from texas
[06:00] <Mirv> robru: oh hello Texas!
[08:49] <dbarth_> hey there
[08:49] <dbarth_> i'm looking for a core dev to help upload libaccounts-qt which is stuck in silo 56
[08:49] <dbarth_> Mirv: hi; i guess you should have the right fu for that, wouldn't you ? ^^
[08:52] <Mirv> dbarth_: looking
[08:53] <Mirv> dbarth_: sadly I'm not a core-dev and indeed that package is in main :(
[08:53] <Mirv> trying anyway just to gather if that's the only main package or what's the situation
[08:54] <Mirv> signon-plugin-oauth2 too
[08:55] <Mirv> dbarth_: you need changes actually, since you've not included the archive changes 1.13+14.10.20140819.1-0ubuntu2, 1.13+14.10.20140819.1-0ubuntu3 and 1.13+14.10.20140819.1-0ubuntu4~gcc5.1
[08:56] <Mirv> dbarth_: looking at https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-056-2-publish/14/artifact/libaccounts-qt_packaging_changes.diff , you'd need to restore the Multi-Arch: same to libaccounts-qt5-1 (in addition to syncing changelog entries)
[08:57] <Mirv> dbarth_: the changelog should also mention you're (apparently?) dropping Qt 4 support
[08:58] <Mirv> mardy: ^ last three lines
[09:00] <Mirv> as the only real change would be the Multi-Arch: same addition, there should be no need for re-QA:ing after rebuild
[09:02] <dbarth_> Mirv: hi
[09:03] <dbarth_> ok
[09:03] <dbarth_> i guess mardy will merge propose these changes and we'll do a rebuild and re-do a quick smoke testing with qa since there will be packaging changes
[09:04] <mardy> Mirv, dbarth_: yes, I'll sync things up :-)
[09:04] <dbarth_> Mirv: who then should we ping to publish that?
[09:26] <Mirv> dbarth_: a core dev :( https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/+members
[09:27] <Mirv> probably me and sil will become core devs within the next year, but it'll be some time still
[09:33] <jibel> Mirv, is there a landing meeting this morning?
[09:36] <mardy> ogra_: hi! Would you help us land https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/446 ? Landing needs a core-dev as some packages are in main
[09:43] <Mirv> jibel: I was thinking not, when no-one was there 1 min before you asked :)
[09:44] <Mirv> jibel: I don't have any topics myself, being just back, although I'm interested if they pay-ui/backend/qtpurchasing will land to OTA-8 or not
[09:44] <jibel> Mirv, okay, no problem
[09:46] <Mirv> I guess it will not, although the tickets in trello are not totally blocked at the moment as such
[10:25] <pstolowski> hello trainguards, may i ask for removing stale wily packages from silos 8 & 20 (which are xenial+vivid only)?
[10:27] <mardy> cjwatson: hi! Would you help us land https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/446 ? Landing needs a core-dev as some packages are in main
[10:43] <cjwatson> mardy: could you find somebody who's more routinely doing Ubuntu work?
[10:44] <mardy> cjwatson: not sure who is more into this... any suggestions?
[10:44] <cjwatson> I don't know, sorry
[10:44] <cjwatson> mardy: But I mostly do Launchpad nowadays
[10:45] <mardy> cjwatson: thanks anyway, I'll continue pinging here and there :-)
[10:46] <mardy> seb128: hi! You, maybe? :-) ^ Would you help us land https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/446 ?
[10:47] <seb128> mardy, I was just about to go for lunch but I can look after that, but usually #ubuntu-devel is probably a good place to find people with upload rights ;-)
[10:47] <mardy> seb128: sure, no hurry :-)
[10:59] <Mirv> pstolowski: sure
[11:01] <Mirv> pstolowski: done for both
[11:01] <pstolowski> Mirv, thanks!
[12:33] <alecu> alesage: jibel: hi! I see that this card has been moved to the "Passed" column, but silo 46 still says "Ready for QA": https://trello.com/c/4fh6dI4j/2417-528-ubuntu-landing-046-indicator-sound-xavi-garcia-mena
[12:33] <alecu> is there something missing from our side?
[13:56] <mardy> seb128: hi! Will you have time for that silo request before, or should I try asking someone else?
[13:59] <dobey> anyone seen rvr?
[14:00] <seb128> dobey, I didn't
[14:00] <seb128> mardy, looking
[14:01] <mardy> seb128: thanks
[14:02] <seb128> mardy, hum, it's a bit non trivial and removing packages need to look at rdepends, I need to finish something else to be able to properly have a look, might be better if you try to find somebody on #ubuntu-devel
[14:02] <seb128> Mirv, you don't have upload rights for the qt set or libaccounts-qt?
[14:41] <Mirv> seb128: libaccounts-qt, not in the set
[14:55] <Trevinho> Laney: ^
[14:55] <Laney> I know, no need to remind me, but thanks
[14:58] <dobey> oh, it's a public day in .es
[14:58] <dobey> davmor2: are you too busy? :)
[15:01] <davmor2> dobey: I am at the minute but jibel has asked me to look into pay-ui at some point soon too, I'll give you a ping when I finish up here
[15:01] <dobey> davmor2: ok, great. thanks :)
[16:01] <alesage> alecu, resolved re: indicator-sound silo, my mistake
[16:52] <alecu> alesage: thanks!
[17:46] <bregma> trainguards, is it possible to get a regular Deb package into a silo for testing and possible landing in the overlay?
[17:47] <robru> bregma: yes if you have it in another PPA I can copy it in
[17:47] <bregma> robru, so we can't just use bileto?
[17:49] <robru> bregma: no there's no way for you to inject manual source packages into PPAs using bileto
[17:49] <robru> bregma: the sync logic only works if your entire silo is being copied from somewhere else, it doesn't work on a per-package basis
[17:57] <dobey> using bileto works if a binary copy is safe (the source only builds arch: all binaries, and the binaries don't have series-specific deps)
[17:57] <dobey> but yeah
[17:58] <dobey> davmor2: are you still around? or done for the day?
[17:59] <davmor2> dobey: just finished up now, I'm gonna have tea and then hit pay-ui for the last hour+ so I will be with you in about 30 minutes
[18:00] <davmor2> dobey: that is just finished up what I was on
[18:00] <dobey> davmor2: ok great. thanks
[20:07] <robru> please sir can i ping some more?
[20:15] * popey blinks
[22:02] <dobey> cihelp: is there any chance that some of the other makos will come back on-line? the autopilot-on-mako job queue is incredibly long :-/
[22:09] <fginther> dobey, not very likely as the makos are failing from hardware issues.
[22:10] <fginther> dobey, the jobs should be replaced soon with krillin based jobs, but there was some issues to work out between managers first
[22:10] <dobey> ok
[22:11] <dobey> any chance we could replace some of them with adt-run virtualized jobs in the future?
[22:12] <dobey> kind of sucks that it's taking ~36 hrs for my MPs to make it through the jenkins machinery :-/
[22:14] <fginther> dobey, I'm not opposed to making any changes or disabling the tests until the tests are switched over. But it's up to the project teams to make that call
[22:17] <dobey> ok
[22:43] <alecu> hi trainguards. I'd like to understand how to fix this in silo 46: "Publish failed: This silo must be transitioned to xenial before publishing"
[22:43] <robru> alecu: right I sent an email about that if you check the ubuntu-phone archives.
[22:44] <alecu> robru: sorry, I'll check that
[22:44] <robru> alecu: what kind of package is it? something that is compiled? if so it may need a rebuild against the new toolchain in xenail
[22:46] <alecu> robru: it's the sound indicator, and yes, it's compiled
[22:47] <alecu> robru: the thing is that it's already got QA approval for vivid. Is it possible to recompile only for xenial?
[22:55] <robru> alecu: generally no, in this case I suppose I could just copy the approved vivid packages and then change the silo to be xenial only instead of dual.
[22:56] <robru> alecu: ok one sec I'll fix it
[22:56] <alecu> robru: oh, that would be great. Thanks a lot!
[22:57] <alecu> robru: and sorry for being out of the loop. I've not done landings in a while, and I'm filling in with finishing this landing :P
[22:57] <robru> alecu: yeah somehow nobody saw my email, there's still dozens of wily silos in this bad state somehow
[22:59] <sil2100> alecu: publishing it now
[22:59] <alecu> thanks train-guards, y'all rock.
[23:00] <robru> alecu: yeah sorry, apparently sil2100 started transitioning this one already but didn't finish (he's sitting across the table from me)
[23:00] <sil2100> cyphermox: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-046-2-publish/24/
[23:00] <alecu> ah! I was wondering what sil2100 was doing awake. It must be 1am in his timezone!
[23:00] <sil2100> alecu: yeah, I blame lack of sleep as the reason why I didn't finish the transition
[23:01] <alecu> are you guys on a sprint?
[23:01] <sil2100> cyphermox will publish it in a minute as my powers aren't good enough
[23:01] <sil2100> (he's sitting next to us as well)
[23:01] <sil2100> Yeah
[23:01] <alecu> not enough powers?
[23:01] * alecu fears sil2100's mighty sword
[23:03] <alecu> thanks a lot guys, enjoy the sprint!
[23:05] <cyphermox> alecu: that update is adding a bunch of build-depends which aren't mentioned in changelog, and also adding quite many files also without mentioning any of it in changelog.
[23:05] <cyphermox> so; it's a NAK from me until at least changelog is fixed.
[23:09] <alecu> cyphermox: sounds fair. I'll ask xavi tomorrow to get that fixed
[23:09] <cyphermox> alecu: ok thanks!
[23:09] <alecu> Thank you!
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[16:52] <Pici> .
[16:54] <dholbach> :)
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"authors": [
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-si
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[06:25] <napsy> jutro
[06:43] <pitastrudl> jutro
[06:49] <netkat> jutro
[06:49] <netkat> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB3tmC2f3t0
[06:49] <Pepelka> Hatebreed - I Will Be Heard - YouTube
[06:49] <Pepelka> ยปMusic video by Hatebreed performing I Will Be Heard. YouTube view counts pre-VEVO: 1,838,322. (C) 2002 Universal Motown Records, a division of UMG Recordings...ยซ
[09:02] <CrazyLemon> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/11/02/0125246/botnet-takes-over-twitch-install-and-partially-installs-gentoo
[09:02] <Pepelka> Botnet Takes Over Twitch Install and Partially Installs Gentoo - Slashdot
[09:02] <Pepelka> ยปWarJolt writes: The plug was pulled on the attempt to crowd-source an Arch Linux install after a botnet threatened to take over the process. Twitch Installs has been rebooted by the twitchintheshell community and Twitch Installs users managed to reinstall Arch only to be thwarted by the botnet. The ...ยซ
[09:14] <jabuk> M 1.6 > 3.km S od GODOVIฤA @02/11/2015 10:01:30 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.99+N,+14.1+E
[09:43] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLm7JhjBAnM
[09:43] <Pepelka> Motochorro asalta a turista en Argentina (VIDEO) - YouTube
[09:43] <Pepelka> ยปMotochorro asalta a turista en Argentina (VIDEO). Motochorro asalta a turista en Argentina (VIDEO). Motochorro asalta a turista en Argentina (VIDEO) http://w...ยซ
[11:28] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[11:28] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 15.1ยฐC @02.11.2015 11:00 UTC.
[11:28] <jabuk> Vlaลพnost: 54% zahodnik 3.6 m/s (13.0 km/h)
[11:28] <jabuk> Sonฤni vzhod: 05:46:34, Kulminacija: 10:49:54, Sonฤni zahod: 15:53:13
[11:29] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 10ur 06min 40s, Luna je v ลกฤipu
[11:29] <CrazyLemon> lies all lies.. sploh ne piha
[11:29] <CrazyLemon> .morje
[11:29] <jabuk> Postaja Debeli Rtiฤ (Zora) - Jadransko morje: 16.5ยฐC
[11:29] <jabuk> Postaja OB Piran (NIB) - Jadransko morje: 16.9ยฐC
[11:29] <jabuk> Postaja Koper - kapitanija - Jadransko morje: 15.8ยฐC
[11:44] <zdobersek> IMDb IRL https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/3r55y3/the_xfiles_2016_series_currently_has_a_98_on_imdb/
[11:45] <Pepelka> The X-Files 2016 series currently has a 9.8 on iMDb from 860 users. It has had 0 episodes : television
[11:45] <Pepelka> ยป4208 points and 761 comments so far on redditยซ
[12:03] <CrazyLemon> so you're saying its a must see ?
[12:07] <Matthai> ja... epizoda 0 :-)
[12:08] <idioterna> a ni X rimska za 10
[12:08] <idioterna> ne za 0
[12:16] <CrazyLemon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSyo3khWIAAREfJ.jpg:large
[12:16] <zdobersek> wat een photoshop
[12:23] <CrazyLemon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRAIRcOWgAExbhf.jpg:large
[12:23] <CrazyLemon> also photoshop?
[12:24] <zdobersek> oold
[12:24] <napsy> lol
[12:24] <idioterna> ja zdej so snsv bl moderni
[12:25] <CrazyLemon> SโฉSโ
[12:31] <zdobersek> pa furamo snxgu telefone
[12:34] <CrazyLemon> niga pls
[12:35] <CrazyLemon> its snxวu
[12:38] <CrazyLemon> https://github.com/butterproject/butter-desktop-angular/issues/34 ajde dz0ny .. js bi rad samo torrent search engine - kat.cr pls
[12:38] <CrazyLemon> :)
[12:38] <Pepelka> Plugin system ยท Issue #34 ยท butterproject/butter-desktop-angular ยท GitHub
[12:38] <Pepelka> ยปbutter-desktop-angular - Angular version of butter-desktopยซ
[12:55] <CrazyLemon> https://www.quora.com/Rooting-Android/Does-rooting-your-android-phone-cause-cancer
[12:55] <Pepelka> Does rooting your android phone cause cancer? - Quora
[12:55] <CrazyLemon> short answer: yes it does
[13:07] <zdobersek> long answer: lol no
[13:07] <jabuk> https://i.imgur.com/BiSkH5D.png
[13:07] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon:http://karss.herokuapp.com/kickass/user/ettv ?
[13:07] <Pepelka> KickAss RSS for user ettv
[13:13] <msev-> a tale butter bo zaลพivel, android app in vse a kko?
[13:14] <dz0ny> "hackers": http://i.imgur.com/2edKJkM.png
[13:16] <zdobbie> still better than hackers.si
[13:16] <idioterna> kr nice
[13:16] <zdobbie> al hekerji.si
[13:16] <idioterna> ej dz0ny
[13:16] <idioterna> a si ze kdaj razmislu
[13:16] <idioterna> da bi mel dva httpdja
[13:16] <idioterna> enga k ne more pisat po disku
[13:16] <idioterna> pa enga sam za wp-admin, k je dostopn sam skoz https
[13:17] <idioterna> pa ni public
[13:17] <zdobbie> 'hack me securely'
[13:17] <idioterna> ja vecina wp lukn je tko narjenih
[13:17] <idioterna> da lahko uploadas stuff in ma httpd pravico pisat po wp fajlih
[13:17] <idioterna> zato da pac dela un upgrade pa to
[13:17] <idioterna> iz wp-admin konzole
[13:19] <dz0ny> idioterna: mam haproxy spredaj ki deluje kot waf
[13:19] <dz0ny> in potem ujame vse te
[13:20] <dz0ny> torej ce url vsebuje lfi
[13:20] <dz0ny> al pa ce body vsebuje cudne zahtevke
[13:21] <dz0ny> potem mamo se suhosin in custom network namespace
[13:21] <dz0ny> tko da je vse locen + client acces je blocked razen kar je whitelisted
[13:21] <dz0ny> v 2 letih so bli 3-je incidenti
[13:22] <dz0ny> aja ลกe to poฤnemo, ฤe ma blog preveฤ prometa
[13:22] <dz0ny> se samodejno vkljuฤi varnish
[13:23] <dz0ny> idioterna: vecina jih al proba prek pluginov,tem pohekat
[13:23] <dz0ny> drug tip so brute-force na wp-login
[13:23] <dz0ny> to tud blokiram
[13:23] <idioterna> mnja to je fino ce mas tak biznis
[13:23] <idioterna> js mam to pac
[13:24] <idioterna> random folk k mu je en page naredu
[13:24] <idioterna> verjetn najbols da jih k teb poslem i guess
[13:24] <dz0ny> mja :)
[13:24] <dz0ny> mel smo ukrajinca k je nalasca nemestu v plugine backodre da je pol hotu mail okolj posilajt
[13:24] <dz0ny> seveda tud to ujamem
[13:25] <dz0ny> sam nismo prej pogruntal dokler ni bil var/spool/mail 20gb :D
[13:26] <idioterna> ja js mam kr munin alert
[13:26] <idioterna> ce je vec k 20 msgjov v queueju
[13:27] <idioterna> zato k je prakticno builtin pa easy to do
[13:29] <idioterna> evo tkole zgleda
[13:29] <idioterna> 902 /wp-content/plugins/jw-player-plugin-for-wordpress/media/msdropdown/js/c12a39c.php
[13:29] <idioterna> 5654 /wp-content/plugins/the-events-calendar/vendor/jquery/article.php
[13:29] <idioterna> 21512 /wp-content/plugins/wp-statistics/ajax.php
[13:29] <idioterna> 131346 /wp-content/plugins/jw-player-plugin-for-wordpress/media/msdropdown/js/6d13cf9.php
[13:29] <idioterna> barabe.
[13:29] <dz0ny> yaic?
[13:30] <dz0ny> idioterna: https://github.com/nbs-system/php-malware-finder
[13:30] <Pepelka> nbs-system/php-malware-finder ยท GitHub
[13:30] <Pepelka> ยปphp-malware-finder - Detect potentially malicious PHP filesยซ
[13:30] <yang> dz0ny: sej obstaja tist "WordFence" app
[13:31] <yang> k je antivirus za wordpress
[13:31] <idioterna> dz0ny: thanks
[13:31] <dz0ny> yang: ya does not scale in sam resurse kur :)
[13:34] <dz0ny> idioterna: tkole zgleda haproxy config za frontend https://paste.sh/FD-bGbfw#xdzhbimi8MFFJvcQNRvSxgkU
[13:34] <Pepelka> paste.sh ยท encrypted pastebin
[13:34] <dz0ny> del :)
[13:35] <idioterna> aha nice throttlas jih
[13:36] <idioterna> sej pr men ne uganejo gesla
[13:36] <idioterna> userji instalirajo crappy plugine
[13:36] <idioterna> s predictable pathi pa tko
[13:37] <Sky[x]> http://phpsadness.com/
[13:38] <Pepelka> PHP Sadness
[13:38] <dz0ny> idioterna: posljem hij v tarpit k ma response kot da je prslo do php napake
[13:38] <idioterna> mhm
[13:38] <dz0ny> al pa sam navadel login page
[13:38] <dz0ny> tkole dovim pa abuserje http://i.imgur.com/xBnUAtH.png
[13:41] <dz0ny> full funny je kr ti hackerji tud ua ne znajo spoofat
[13:41] <dz0ny> in jih tako ujames
[13:41] <idioterna> mnja
[13:42] <idioterna> men ni vsec da mors za security bit ful bl anal about protocols
[13:47] <dz0ny> tkole zgleda pa waf skripta https://gist.github.com/dz0ny/1c177010761d644776f0
[13:47] <dz0ny> golang + js vm
[13:47] <Pepelka> waf_live.js ยท GitHub
[13:48] <dz0ny> k z modsecurity nism nikamor prisel
[15:38] <CrazyLemon> it was a nice day for a giro
[15:39] <zdobersek> wat een show-off
[15:40] <CrazyLemon> and i had a nice average speed too!
[15:41] <zdobersek> what was, it, 23
[15:41] <zdobersek> ?
[15:42] <CrazyLemon> 25.99!
[15:42] <zdobersek> k
[16:30] <CrazyLemon> http://www.monitor.si/clanek/jerovsek-computers-neslavno-propadla-ikona/169772/
[16:30] <Pepelka> Jerovลกek Computers - neslavno propadla ikona | Monitor
[16:30] <Pepelka> ยปStarejลกi raฤunalnikarji se vsekakor spomnimo podjetja Jerovลกek Computers, ki je vrsto let veljalo za pravcatega velikana na domaฤem trgu. A kratkemu ฤasu na slovenskem raฤunalniลกkem prestolu je sledil propad podjetja. Slabe finanฤne in druge poslovne odloฤitve ter katastrofalen nadzor nad stroลกki so Jerovลกek Computers v vsega nekaj letih dobesedno potopili.ยซ
[16:45] <zdobersek> DOBESEDNO
[16:54] <idioterna> mhm
[16:54] <idioterna> water main burst
[17:00] <yang> Cavazzota sem vidu na Zalah
[17:00] <idioterna> bogi
[17:00] <yang> sam je bil
[17:00] <zdobersek> ekstrabogi
[17:17] <msev-> a je to res da kao pristajalne luฤi na brniku niso skoz prgane
[17:17] <msev-> prลพgane
[17:18] <yang> sparat je treba
[17:19] <idioterna> zakaj bi pa ble skos przgane?
[17:19] <idioterna> to moti ptice
[17:19] <idioterna> pa insekte
[17:21] <msev-> lol
[17:23] <yang> msev-: kot sem seznanjen na brniku ni nocnih letov, pristajajo in vzletajo tja do nevem 1h zjutraj, pa potem ob 5h spet zacnejo
[17:23] <pitastrudl> aja
[17:23] <pitastrudl> kak to
[17:23] <pitastrudl> that makes no sense
[17:23] <msev-> ja sj noฤ je vsen takt
[17:23] <yang> za postarske avione pa ne vem kako majo lete
[17:23] <msev-> paฤ ฤudn mi je da kao niso skoz luฤi prลพgane
[17:24] <yang> zakaj bi ble luci prizgane, ce ne pricakujejo letov
[17:24] <msev-> toj res..
[17:24] <msev-> tko ฤe bi bla panika da bi kลกn drug mogu pristat :D
[17:24] <yang> to pomeni vsak dan po 5 ur zastonj gorenja luci
[17:25] <yang> ce bi bla panika, verjem da jih prizgejo v minuti
[17:29] <msev-> jp
[17:33] <CrazyLemon> razn ฤe ne delajo..pol jih ne priลพgejo v minuti
[17:33] <CrazyLemon> imajo pa bakle v skladiลกฤu..just in case!
[17:37] <msev-> eh sj majo generatorje na dizl :D
[17:38] <CrazyLemon> https://www.facebook.com/BikessZone/videos/526453807513709/
[17:38] <Pepelka> Bike's Zone | Facebook
[17:38] <Pepelka> ยปGoPro - Fabio Wibmer - Limitless TrailThis video is insane (y)Good job Fabio Wibmer !ยซ
[17:40] <idioterna> dz0ny: pred par tedni si mi dal en open source slack clone k ni bil mattermost
[17:40] <idioterna> k ze ma android app
[17:40] <idioterna> a se se spomnes imena? :)
[17:42] <Sky[x]> idioterna: http://www.mattermost.org/ mejbi?
[17:42] <Pepelka> Mattermost
[17:42] <Sky[x]> aja opa :>
[17:42] <Sky[x]> sorry
[17:42] <idioterna> enga k ni ta :)
[17:42] <zdobbie> flowdock maybe?
[17:46] <idioterna> na-a
[17:46] <zdobbie> lucky you
[17:50] <matjaz> idioterna: Rocket Chat verjetno
[17:50] <matjaz> https://rocket.chat/
[17:50] <Pepelka> Rocket.Chat
[17:50] <Pepelka> ยปFrom group messages and video calls all the way to helpdesk killer features our goal is to become the number one cross-platform open source chat solution.ยซ
[17:53] <Sky[x]> a je kak iOS developer tukej?
[18:01] <msev-> tole pa amaze zgleda
[18:02] <Sky[x]> ?
[18:03] <netkat> al pa matrix, zulip, jabbr
[18:09] <CrazyLemon> IRC anyone? :P
[18:10] <netkat> :D
[18:11] <netkat> tolk idej, idioterna pa nic
[18:11] <matjaz> si dela seznam plusov in minusov za vse :)
[18:12] <netkat> :)
[18:22] <msev-> za rocket chat sm komentirov Sky[x]
[18:23] <Sky[x]> :)
[18:27] <idioterna> ja dz0ny je enga druzga polinku
[18:27] <idioterna> ceprov so vsi te ok
[18:33] <netkat> ziher angularfire slack:D je na a
[18:57] <netkat> CrazyLemon, na http://www.twitch.tv/twitchinstallsarchlinux se se dogaja, sam zdej install gentoo, pa xp:D no zdej majo precvikan kabel
[18:57] <Pepelka> Twitch
[19:04] <lynxlynxlynx> a ni bil vฤeri celo botnet napad?
[19:05] <netkat> ja, pa se kr je vojna
[19:05] <netkat> oz kr koli
[19:18] <zdobbie> lessig nooo
[19:18] <CrazyLemon> lessig was
[19:18] <CrazyLemon> netkat mja.. je kr annoying gledat tist flood :)
[19:41] <msev-> a kdo rusk zna od vs pa se mu da prevajat en tekst z enih slikc :D
[19:42] <zdobersek> cyka!
[19:42] <CrazyLemon> dont be rude cyka
[19:42] <napsy_> .vreme lj
[19:42] <jabuk1> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 3.6ยฐC @02.11.2015 19:30 UTC.
[19:42] <jabuk1> Vlaลพnost: 89% jugovzhodnik 0.2 m/s (0.7 km/h)
[19:42] <jabuk1> Sonฤni vzhod: 05:44:30, Kulminacija: 10:46:45, Sonฤni zahod: 15:49:00
[19:42] <jabuk1> Dan je dolg: 10ur 04min 30s, Luna je v ลกฤipu
[19:46] <zdobbie> msev-: dz0ny najbrz zna najvec
[19:48] <yang> msev-: a z anastasiadate ?
[19:48] <CrazyLemon> i is hungry
[19:49] <zdobersek> kako bi ne bil, ce si tko hitr gonu
[19:49] <CrazyLemon> i know right!
[19:49] <CrazyLemon> tauลพnt sedemsto kalorij sm porabu!
[19:56] <msev-> haha yang
[19:56] <msev-> a to je kลกna stran da jih uvozลก sm
[19:56] <msev-> :D
[20:18] <yang> ja
[20:18] <yang> najprej mors linkat paypal racun
[20:19] <yang> pa te opilijo za kakih 500 eur
[20:19] <yang> potem pa morda dobis kaksno
[20:30] <CrazyLemon> http://www.drevesnica-ceh.si/images/ostalo/crna_murva.jpg
[20:30] <CrazyLemon> a ma kdo to doma?
[20:30] <CrazyLemon> :D
[20:31] <CrazyLemon> ali pa to https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Morus_alba_fruits.jpg
[20:37] <yang> robide ?
[20:38] <yang> bela murva
[20:38] <CrazyLemon> niso robide
[20:39] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon ja na vikendu mamo te se mi zdi
[20:39] <pitastrudl> why
[20:39] <pitastrudl> sam zdl ni ลพe prepozn za te?
[20:39] <pitastrudl> ponavad so tm avgusta
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl ko mi boลก vrnil pasto..priฤakujem vsaj eno vreฤko teh
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> :D
[20:39] <pitastrudl> lel
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl je pozno ja..but idc :>
[20:39] <pitastrudl> :-D
[20:40] * pitastrudl si zatlaฤi murve za gate
[20:40] <pitastrudl> come and get them
[20:40] <pitastrudl> ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
[20:40] <CrazyLemon> lol...kr obdrลพi pasto
[20:40] <CrazyLemon> :>
[20:42] <pitastrudl> lol
[20:43] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon kdaj boลก imel v sredo ฤas
[20:43] <pitastrudl> da prideลก po pasto
[20:43] <pitastrudl> ฤe boลก ime lฤas
[20:43] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl nea vem..v ฤetrtek imam namen it na kolo
[20:43] <CrazyLemon> pa lahko pridem ลกe pobrat pasto
[20:43] <pitastrudl> hm
[20:45] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon po 12ih
[20:45] <pitastrudl> mam cajt
[20:45] <pitastrudl> na sreฤo predavanja odpadejo popoldne :D
[20:45] <pitastrudl> woop woop
[20:45] <pitastrudl> veฤ cajta za uฤenje
[20:45] <pitastrudl> rip
[20:45] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl sej tko ali tko nimaลก nek hud urnik :D
[20:45] <CrazyLemon> kaj mate 4h na dan
[20:45] <pitastrudl> ja dons sm biu zdoma od 8:30 do 19:30
[20:45] <pitastrudl> :-D
[20:45] <CrazyLemon> ja..to ne pomeni da si imel predavanja 11h
[20:45] <CrazyLemon> :>
[20:46] <pitastrudl> ja sam te pavze vmes te ubijejo
[20:46] <pitastrudl> :D
[20:46] <CrazyLemon> buลพฤek
[20:48] <pitastrudl> i cri
[21:00] <msev-> pitastrudl, ti se kr ฤim dl uฤ :D
[21:00] <pitastrudl> msev- sm ลพe dovolj podaljลกeval
[21:00] <pitastrudl> :D
[21:01] <msev-> ker resniฤni svet je itak *******
[21:01] <msev-> :D
[21:01] <pitastrudl> we know that
[21:01] <pitastrudl> mah sej bom vrgel svoje dokuemnte v ogenj
[21:01] <pitastrudl> pustil si brado
[21:01] <pitastrudl> pa ลกel v nemฤijo
[21:01] <msev-> :D
[21:01] <pitastrudl> ezpez
[21:01] <msev-> a pol boลก ลกe zravn movember praznoval
[21:01] <msev-> :D
[21:02] <pitastrudl> yess
[21:08] <msev-> pismo jutr mam razgovor
[21:08] <msev-> ฤist nฤ se mi ne da prpravlat
[21:08] <msev-> ฤist sm zabediran
[21:09] <pitastrudl> sreฤno msev-
[21:09] <msev-> tnx
[21:10] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon kaj veลก za kakลกne trgovine kjer bi lahko naลกel stvari za ลกolo, e.g. akte, pa take zadeve. vem da je v tuลกu ena trgovina sam to je pa tut to kar poznam
[21:10] <msev-> tok teh razgovorov pa proลกenj da se mi sploh ne da veฤ stari :)
[21:10] <msev-> ma kaลกna akta no
[21:10] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl akte? za ลกolo? si sliลกal kdaj za torbo :P
[21:10] <msev-> to sam kopiraลก od soลกolk pa je
[21:10] <pitastrudl> kaj mi bo torba ฤe mam kolo
[21:10] <msev-> :D
[21:10] <pitastrudl> msev- if only it worked that way
[21:11] <pitastrudl> oฤitno je dzs pr trลพnici
[21:11] <CrazyLemon> nasproti trลพnice
[21:11] <pitastrudl> ok
[21:11] <pitastrudl> poznaลก ลกe kaj?
[21:11] <msev-> hahah -> http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/ad-lie-penguins-are-sexually-depraved-little-perverts
[21:11] <Pepelka> The Dark Truth About Adรฉlie Penguins Was Kept Secret For More Than A Hundred Years | IFLScience
[21:12] <Pepelka> ยปAww. Arenโt penguins the cutest? With their all their waddling and flappy little arms. Adรฉlie penguins look particularly adorable, standing at just 70 centimeters (27.5 inches) with beady little eyes.ยซ
[21:12] <msev-> pa tko se je govoril da majo kao istga partnerja skoz
[21:12] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl ne.. nism ravno ljubitelj aktovk :D
[21:12] <msev-> no sj mogoฤe druge vrste majo
[21:12] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon no paฤ neki rabm da zapiske hranim
[21:12] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl torba ...
[21:12] <CrazyLemon> pa ลกe raฤunalnik lahko not spraviลก
[21:12] <CrazyLemon> :>
[21:12] <pitastrudl> ja pa dobr, ne piลกem v zvezke
[21:12] <pitastrudl> ampak na liste
[21:12] <pitastrudl> z luknami
[21:12] <pitastrudl> da bi jih dal nekam
[21:13] <CrazyLemon> aja.. ja to pa je ฤist druga zadeva
[21:13] <CrazyLemon> za to pa res potrebujeลก aktovko
[21:13] <CrazyLemon> :p
[21:13] <pitastrudl> :p
[21:13] <pitastrudl> ne aktovko, akto
[21:13] <pitastrudl> fak
[21:13] <CrazyLemon> same crap
[21:13] <pitastrudl> a ni aktovka tista torba
[21:13] <pitastrudl> al what
[21:14] <CrazyLemon> ja
[21:14] <CrazyLemon> kaj pa bi ti rad?
[21:14] <pitastrudl> akto
[21:14] <pitastrudl> paฤ tak ko en mini fascikel je
[21:14] <pitastrudl> oz ne zgleda kot fascikel
[21:14] <pitastrudl> sam podoben pricnip
[21:14] <CrazyLemon> https://www.dzs.si/artikel/2F230658++++++++-1/13-214-floral-akta-organizator-a4-alter-floral-?folderId=10232184
[21:14] <Pepelka> DZS Spletni nakupovalni center
[21:14] <CrazyLemon> tole..pa tko povej
[21:14] <pitastrudl> ja tole ja
[21:14] <pitastrudl> sam ne glih ta vzorec
[21:14] <pitastrudl> :P
[21:15] <CrazyLemon> mmmmmhmm
[21:15] <CrazyLemon> to dobiลก v vsaki trgovini
[21:15] <CrazyLemon> tam kjer so zadeve za ลกolo
[21:15] <pitastrudl> hm
[21:16] <pitastrudl> upam da res niso odprti samo do treh
[21:16] <pitastrudl> like wtf
[21:16] <CrazyLemon> dzs niga..dzs
[21:16] <pitastrudl> u wot m8
[21:16] <pitastrudl> hm
[21:16] <pitastrudl> praivjo da do devetih
[21:16] <pitastrudl> noice
[21:16] <pitastrudl> odpiralni ฤasi ftw
[21:17] <pitastrudl> aja fak
[21:17] <pitastrudl> to je pr ลกalari
[21:17] <CrazyLemon> https://www.google.si/maps/place//@45.5469837,13.7256826,3a,75y,97.1h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sR9_pLvwl7YLDE6sTTHroLw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x9dbd487ccaa3fd7b?sa=X&ved=0CBYQ3RowCWoVChMI5trX4dTyyAIVQ_YOCh36zQrc
[21:17] <pitastrudl> ne v centru
[21:17] <Pepelka> Google Zemljevidi
[21:17] <CrazyLemon> ลกalara == mercator
[21:17] <pitastrudl> kje je ta google view
[21:17] <pitastrudl> a tm na pomolu je dzs
[21:17] <pitastrudl> wat
[21:17] <msev-> pitastrudl, loh si pa surface kupลก pa not piลกeลก :D
[21:17] <pitastrudl> ne sej ne
[21:17] <pitastrudl> hecam se
[21:17] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl ne..tam dol pri roza stavbi
[21:17] <CrazyLemon> je dzs
[21:17] <pitastrudl> vem vem, hvala
[21:18] <pitastrudl> msev- no pls
[21:18] <msev-> haha
[21:18] <CrazyLemon> tale google je pa mal off
[21:19] <CrazyLemon> najprej pokaลพe da je dzs v kopru cca. 100m stran
[21:19] <CrazyLemon> nato pa pokaลพe ta dzs v mercatorju ฤist na drugi stran
[21:19] <CrazyLemon> kjer so bloki
[21:19] <pitastrudl> ja pa dafak no
[21:19] <pitastrudl> zakaj nikjer ne piลกe kdaj je odprt
[21:19] <pitastrudl> pizda
[21:20] <pitastrudl> a se hecajo
[21:20] <CrazyLemon> :D
[21:20] <CrazyLemon> greลก..preveriลก in se vrneลก nazaj ko bo odprto
[21:21] <CrazyLemon> sej ti je na poti na faks
[21:21] <pitastrudl> true
[21:22] <msev-> a vidva sta oba z obale
[21:23] <CrazyLemon> ne
[21:23] <CrazyLemon> on je pravkar prลกu iz sirije..
[21:23] <CrazyLemon> js pa iz irana
[21:23] <CrazyLemon> :D
[21:25] <pitastrudl> haha
[21:30] <msev-> tole ni tvoja najbolลกa ลกala CrazyLemon :D
[21:31] <CrazyLemon> msev- tole men zveni kot ksenofobija :/
[21:32] <msev-> most certainly not
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[16:53] <Pici> .
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[16:53] <Pici> .
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-africa
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[06:07] <Kilos> morning africa
[06:08] <craigbrash> Kilos: good morning
[06:08] <Kilos> hi craigbrash
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[10:25] <zequence> sakrecoer_: I believe there are only three people interested in PR and Support, you, me and Jimmy
[10:25] <zequence> But, I agree, better to use the wiki, and keep all things in one place
[10:27] <zequence> sakrecoer_: If you can go 2-3 months without smoking, that should do it :)
[10:39] <zequence> OvenWerks: I put kid3-qt back. There are new seeds now
[10:39] <zequence> Going to set up the new meta for xenial, as it is called
[11:02] <zequence> Well, maybe later, anyway
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-uos-showandtell
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[16:53] <Pici> .
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[19:49] <ahoneybun> mhall119: I can't take any more days off for awhile...
[19:49] <ahoneybun> I was trying to see if I could leave friday and come back on sunday
[19:49] <mhall119> ahoneybun: are you still able to attend FOSSETCON?
[19:49] <ahoneybun> yea yea
[19:50] <ahoneybun> that's all good
[19:50] <mhall119> awesome, we would miss you if you weren't there
[19:50] <ahoneybun> thanks lol
[19:51] <ahoneybun> I really would like to A. go to LA B, meet Bryan Lunduke
[19:51] <ahoneybun> and everyone else too of course lol
[19:51] <mhall119> you know, he used to come to Orlando once a year when they had OpenSuseCon there, sadly that's stopped
[19:54] <ahoneybun> oh I think there was one last year right.?
[19:54] <ahoneybun> something SUSE was going on
[19:55] <mhall119> there was a SuseCon, not an OpenSuseCOn
[19:55] <ahoneybun> so I could leave friday at 6:30 pm or so and get there at 9pm or so, then leave on sunday at 2:30pm or so
[19:56] <mhall119> aw, you're going to miss UbuCon then
[19:56] <ahoneybun> XD if the days made any sense to the board lol
[19:57] <ahoneybun> your thinking they will say yes to that anyway
[19:57] <ahoneybun> what day is it? thur?
[19:57] <mhall119> say yes to what?
[19:57] <mhall119> yeah, thursday the 19th
[19:57] <ahoneybun> yes to funding
[19:58] <ahoneybun> wait
[19:58] <ahoneybun> 19th?
[19:58] <ahoneybun> the thing starts on the 21
[19:58] <mhall119> yes
[19:59] <ahoneybun> I'm talking about SCALE
[19:59] <ahoneybun> I'll be at fossetcon all the time
[19:59] <mhall119> oh, SCaLE, ok, I was all confused
[19:59] <ahoneybun> yep lol
[20:00] <ahoneybun> I'm kinda your headling act for UbuCon lol
[20:00] <ahoneybun> mhall119:
[22:02] <ahoneybun> I'm kinda your headling act for UbuCon mhall119 lol
[22:10] <mhall119> ahoneybun: you're headlining for me?
[22:10] <mhall119> I thought you were doing a short presentation
[22:16] <ahoneybun> your trying to get 50mins or something?
[22:18] <ahoneybun> right mhall119?
[22:59] <mhall119> ahoneybun: if you can
[23:00] <mhall119> i have the morning hours booked already
[23:01] <mhall119> I was thinking of doing the afternoon as an unconference with a more flexible schedule, that way you don't have to be 50 minutes
[23:03] <ahoneybun> ncei
[23:03] <ahoneybun> *nice
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2015-11-02-#juju-dev
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[01:34] <mup> Bug #1512191 opened: worker/uniter: update tests to use mock clock <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512191>
[01:37] <mup> Bug #1512191 changed: worker/uniter: update tests to use mock clock <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512191>
[01:43] <mup> Bug #1512191 opened: worker/uniter: update tests to use mock clock <tech-debt> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512191>
[02:25] <cherylj> anastasiamac: ping?
[02:25] <anastasiamac> cherylj: pong?
[02:25] <cherylj> hey :)
[02:25] <cherylj> got a few minutes to chat?
[02:25] <anastasiamac> cherylj: isn't it sunday for u?
[02:25] <anastasiamac> of course
[02:25] <cherylj> technically, yes
[02:25] <cherylj> :)
[02:26] <anastasiamac> tomorrow's meeting?
[02:26] <cherylj> yes, let me get my headset
[03:00] <davechen1y> mwhudson: so far joining the IBM partner network has granted me
[03:00] <davechen1y> 1. zero access to the things I want
[03:01] <davechen1y> 2. spam
[03:05] <mwhudson> davechen1y: \o/
[03:06] <mwhudson> davechen1y: i'm not sure i've gotten as far as getting spam
[08:47] <jam> dimitern: did I miss you at our 1:1 ? I thought I was in the room a while
[08:48] <dimitern> jam, sorry, I overslept :/
[08:53] <jam> dimitern: k. no prob. I just was making sure we still had the right schedule with tz changes
[08:54] <dimitern> jam, yeah, the schedule is correct
[09:44] <voidspace> dimitern: ping
[09:45] <dimitern> voidspace, pong
[09:48] <voidspace> dimitern: hang on - trying something
[09:48] <voidspace> dimitern: may still need your help, will re-ping if necessary :-)
[09:48] <dimitern> voidspace, :) sure
[09:56] <voidspace> dimitern: dooferlad: frobware: just grabbing coffee and taking a loo break, will be a couple of minutes late to standup
[09:56] <voidspace> sorry!
[09:56] <dimitern> voidspace, np
[10:03] <dimitern> jam, standup?
[10:07] <voidspace> dimitern: omw
[10:07] <voidspace> wallyworld: ping
[10:10] <frobware> jam: today is the day, my first bootstrap failed with the replica set failure; the day keeps getting better.... ??? :)
[10:32] <voidspace> dimitern: are addressable containers in 1.24?
[10:33] <dimitern> voidspace, there are some parts of it, but it's not working fully
[10:34] <voidspace> dimitern: so there could be people using deployed environments with addressable containers
[10:35] <dimitern> voidspace, in 1.24 ?
[10:36] <voidspace> dimitern: yep
[10:36] <dimitern> voidspace, that's possible of course, but I highly doubt it
[10:36] <voidspace> dimitern: so making them "not work" on maas 1.8 would be a backwards compatibility issue...
[10:37] <dimitern> voidspace, they won't work on maas without devices support, i.e. <1.8.2
[10:37] <voidspace> dimitern: what do you mean by won't work?
[10:39] <dimitern> voidspace, juju cannot guarantee container resources will be full released
[10:39] <voidspace> dimitern: don't we support the older ways of requesting addresses - we used to
[10:40] <voidspace> dimitern: so by "won't work" you mean "will work but there might be a temporary issue later under some circumstances"
[10:40] <voidspace> dimitern: I really dislike the abuse of the phrase "won't work"
[10:40] <dimitern> voidspace, the "temporary" issue is quite critical for some of our users
[10:41] <voidspace> dimitern: specific users in specific cases
[10:41] <voidspace> dimitern: that we can communicate with
[10:41] <dimitern> voidspace, since maas 1.8.2 is in trusty, as a user you most likely won't even see that error
[10:44] <voidspace> dimitern: we have many users with many use cases, breaking stuff that works for one use case - when we have fixed the problem for the other use case and can communicate with them - seems like a real backwards step to me
[10:45] <voidspace> dimitern: we're [potentially] breaking things for some users - to avoid a problem that we've already fixed another way!
[10:46] <dimitern> voidspace, all of that depends on the definition of "works"
[10:47] <dimitern> voidspace, does it work if you can re-do the same deployment on the same maas only a certain number of times?
[10:47] <voidspace> dimitern: well sort of but "the feature does what it says but under some circumstances might temporarily leak resources when you've *finished using it*" is a funny definition of "doesn't work"
[10:48] <voidspace> dimitern: using thousands of containers within a short space of time is a pretty specific use case - and one we *have addressed*
[10:48] <voidspace> dimitern: we're not ignoring that use case, but to block *all other use cases* because of it is not good
[10:48] <perrito666> morning
[10:48] <dimitern> voidspace, sorry, but that's sounds to me like saying "leaving instances around after destroy-environment is not our problem, as it did work fine while the environment was running"
[10:48] <voidspace> perrito666: morningg
[10:49] <voidspace> dimitern: leaving instances around, that cost money, would be much worse and we should really avoid it
[10:49] <voidspace> dimitern: temporarily leaking a dhcp lease is not the same
[10:49] <dimitern> voidspace, it's the same, but it takes more retries for it to become a problem
[10:50] <dimitern> voidspace, the same as with memory leaks really - a small leak won't be a problem, unless you run your application for a long time
[10:50] <dimitern> :)
[10:50] <voidspace> dimitern: they're not at all the same
[10:50] <voidspace> dimitern: resource leakage is not a good thing
[10:51] <wallyworld> voidspace: hi
[10:51] <voidspace> dimitern: having temporary leaks that don't cost money under specific known corner cases - addressed in a later release - is not the end of the world
[10:51] <voidspace> dimitern: stopping *existing deployments* working, is much worse
[10:52] <dimitern> voidspace, why you keep calling the leaks "temporary" ? it's not like they're going way by themselves after a while
[10:52] <voidspace> dimitern: the dhcp lease expires, true?
[10:52] <dimitern> voidspace, that depends on the dhcp server config
[10:53] <voidspace> wallyworld: I would like to talk to you about bug 1403689
[10:53] <mup> Bug #1403689: Server should handle tools of unknown or unsupported series <upgrade-juju> <upload-tools> <juju-core:Fix Released by wallyworld> <juju-core 1.24:Triaged> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Released by wallyworld> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1403689>
[10:53] <wallyworld> sure
[10:53] <dimitern> voidspace, I think MAAS dhcpd uses rather long leases by default
[10:54] <voidspace> wallyworld: did you fix it in the server or client?
[10:54] <voidspace> wallyworld: server I assume
[10:55] <wallyworld> voidspace: tim had already found and fixed most of the cases of mapping series -> version, but there was one place in simplestreams search that was not covered
[10:55] <voidspace> dimitern: this is a specific use case for *experimentation*, real users aren't burning through all their dhcp leases! I'm not saying ignore the issue - we've fixed it! (Requiring maas 1.8).
[10:55] <voidspace> dimitern: however blocking all other "normal uses" because of it, seems wrong / bad
[10:55] <wallyworld> voidspace: so all the usages that i can see that would panic or return an error have been patched
[10:56] <voidspace> wallyworld: where?
[10:56] <voidspace> wallyworld: we have this problem on 1.20 / 1.22 servers...
[10:56] <dimitern> voidspace, can you explain which "normal users" will be blocked?
[10:56] <voidspace> wallyworld: which can't be upgraded with --upload-tools
[10:56] <wallyworld> i fixed it in master
[10:56] <wallyworld> and 1.25 i think
[10:56] <voidspace> dimitern: anyone using addressable containers
[10:56] <dimitern> voidspace, for existing environments, it will keep working as before
[10:56] <wallyworld> upload-tools is bad
[10:56] <dimitern> voidspace, for new environments, the new behavior is enforced by default
[10:57] <wallyworld> we try not to encourage its use
[10:57] <voidspace> wallyworld: however if you want to give users new binaries to test a fix it is what we have
[10:57] <wallyworld> is there a use case for it?
[10:57] <voidspace> wallyworld: unless you can suggest an alternative?
[10:57] <voidspace> dimitern: upgrading a deployed environment
[10:57] <dimitern> voidspace, the only affected users will be those using maas 1.7 or earlier
[10:57] <wallyworld> our policy afaik is to get them to upgrade to latest stable relase
[10:57] <wallyworld> aka 1.25
[10:58] <wallyworld> uness that's changed
[10:58] <voidspace> wallyworld: that upgrade doesn't work
[10:58] <wallyworld> from 1.22 to 1.25?
[10:58] <voidspace> wallyworld: we need to know if a proposed change has fixed the problem they have
[10:58] <voidspace> wallyworld: yep
[10:58] <voidspace> wallyworld: lots of horrible problems
[10:59] <wallyworld> we haven't cuaght that in CI?
[10:59] <voidspace> nope
[10:59] <wallyworld> CI should have flagged those issues
[10:59] <voidspace> wallyworld: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1507867
[10:59] <mup> Bug #1507867: juju upgrade failures <canonical-bootstack> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Triaged by hduran-8> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507867>
[10:59] <voidspace> wallyworld: for a specific user
[10:59] <wallyworld> looking
[10:59] <wallyworld> voidspace: ah right ignore-machine-addresses
[11:00] <voidspace> wallyworld: not just that though
[11:00] <wallyworld> what else?
[11:00] <wallyworld> there was a mongo corrution
[11:00] <voidspace> yep
[11:00] <wallyworld> but we were witing for logs
[11:00] <wallyworld> mogo got corrupt before upgarde
[11:00] <wallyworld> and could be fixed by running repairDatabase()
[11:00] <voidspace> wallyworld: meanwhile, I've fixed the ignore-machine-addresses issue
[11:01] <wallyworld> yay
[11:01] <voidspace> wallyworld: but I can't get them to test that
[11:01] <wallyworld> what about trying upload-tools with a 1.25 client?
[11:01] <wallyworld> and having a custom jujud in the path
[11:02] <wallyworld> unless w ebackport all the series versio fixes (and there were several, older clients will get stuck i expect)
[11:02] <wallyworld> and we are not doing any new 1.20/1.22 releases
[11:02] <dimitern> voidspace, so is the whole argument about displaying a warning if we detect no devices api instead of an error?
[11:04] <voidspace> wallyworld: is the fix in the client then?
[11:04] <voidspace> wallyworld: the 1.25 client won't attempt to upload a version that the 1.22 server rejects?
[11:05] <voidspace> dimitern: a warning would be better, rather than refusing to create a new container (for deployed environment that may already have addressable containers created under 1.24)
[11:05] <voidspace> wallyworld: sinzui said he *would* do new 1.22 release if required for this bug
[11:05] <wallyworld> voidspace: --upload-tools will IIRC choose a jujud in the path - so you put the jujud that you want to test where the client can see it
[11:05] <dimitern> voidspace, in this specific case, I agree
[11:05] <voidspace> dimitern: \o/ :-)
[11:06] <dimitern> voidspace, :)
[11:06] <wallyworld> voidspace: and using a 1.25 client with all the series version fixes should work (that's my theory)
[11:06] <voidspace> wallyworld: ok
[11:06] <dimitern> voidspace, how about in other cases - new environment on older maas (<1.8)?
[11:06] <wallyworld> voidspace: if we are to do a new 1.22, then all the series version fixes from tim and me would need backporting
[11:06] <voidspace> wallyworld: right
[11:07] <voidspace> dimitern: I care less I guess - but I don't think addressable containers are broken just because deploying thousands of them and using destroy-environment force causes an issue
[11:07] <voidspace> dimitern: that's a very specific (and experimental) use case - that we have a fix for
[11:07] <voidspace> dimitern: so even then, preventing addressable containers seems wrong to me
[11:07] <voidspace> dimitern: not the world's worst wrong, only a minor wrong...
[11:07] <voidspace> dimitern: so I would prefer a warning then too
[11:08] <wallyworld> voidspace: we can do that backport if needed. but it would be intersting to try 1.25 client with custom 1.22 jujud push up via upload-tools
[11:08] <voidspace> wallyworld: however, we are seeing --upload-tools *not work* on 1.22 (with a custom jujud in the path)
[11:08] <voidspace> wallyworld: try it yourself, deploy 1.22 then try --upload-tools with only the new jujud in the path
[11:08] <voidspace> wallyworld: you hit the wily bug
[11:08] <wallyworld> voidspace: it would be intersting to see then error then so we can see where the issue is
[11:08] <dimitern> voidspace, how about an extra flag - error by default, with the flag - warning and proceed?
[11:09] <voidspace> dimitern: more flags! don't like it
[11:09] <wallyworld> voidspace: ok, i'll try, but likely tomorrow
[11:09] <wallyworld> need to finish ome other stuff tonight
[11:09] <voidspace> wallyworld: I'll try again today and email you (currently working on a different environment)
[11:09] <wallyworld> ok
[11:09] <voidspace> wallyworld: and confirm that I can't upgrade from 1.22 to latest trunk
[11:09] <voidspace> wallyworld: and you can believe me or not! :-)
[11:10] <wallyworld> man, we need to fix our upgrades
[11:10] <dimitern> voidspace, users are unlikely to see a mere warning in the case where juju is used as a tool (e.g. autopilot or a scripted deployer-based deployment)
[11:10] <wallyworld> and figure out why CI didn't catch the issues
[11:10] <voidspace> yeah
[11:10] <wallyworld> voidspace: i believe you but just don't have enough info yet
[11:10] <voidspace> wallyworld: sure :-)
[11:10] <wallyworld> :-P
[11:10] <voidspace> wallyworld: I'll email you and you can tell me what more diagnostic information you need
[11:10] <wallyworld> once i see the symptoms i can look at the code and see where the issue might be
[11:11] <voidspace> dimitern: users are unlikely to hit the problem
[11:11] <wallyworld> ok, and i'll try also
[11:11] <voidspace> dimitern: and if they do we have a known fix for them
[11:11] <voidspace> wallyworld: thanks
[11:11] <dimitern> voidspace, which is?
[11:11] <voidspace> dimitern: upgrade maas...
[11:11] <dimitern> voidspace, and how are we communicating that to the users?
[11:12] <voidspace> dimitern: all our available communication channels
[11:13] <voidspace> dimitern: creating hundreds of containers and then destroying them is a pretty specific use case
[11:13] <dimitern> voidspace, like the docs that suggest "oh, and by the way just in case set disable-network-management: true in your environments.yaml" ? :)
[11:13] <voidspace> heh
[11:14] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, it's one of the cases we should support well - for density
[11:14] <voidspace> dimitern: yep, I definitely agree we should make it work
[11:14] <voidspace> we don't really have any choice in that matter
[11:19] <voidspace> dimitern: new topic
[11:19] <voidspace> dimitern: hopefully less contentious
[11:19] <dimitern> voidspace, ok :)
[11:19] <voidspace> dimitern: I'm trying to recreate the ignore-machine-addresses issue
[11:19] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah?
[11:19] <voidspace> dimitern: I have a deployed environment (current trunk) with a deployed unit of wordpress
[11:20] <voidspace> dimitern: on that machine I've added a new nic
[11:20] <voidspace> dimitern: this is my nic definition http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13081446/
[11:21] <voidspace> dimitern: I see "eth0:1" with that assigned (and spurious) 10.0 address when I do ifconfig
[11:21] <voidspace> dimitern: but I don't see any issue with the machine from juju
[11:21] <voidspace> dimitern: it isn't visibly picking up that new (wrong) address
[11:21] <dimitern> voidspace, did you wait ~10m for the instance poller to try refreshing the machine addresses?
[11:21] <voidspace> dimitern: no...
[11:21] <voidspace> dimitern: :-)
[11:21] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll go get coffee and see what happens
[11:22] <dimitern> voidspace, :)
[11:22] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[11:22] <dimitern> voidspace, np, might not be the only thing, but I'd start there
[11:22] <voidspace> dimitern: cool
[11:27] <jam> dooferlad: frobware: I'm back around if you wanted to chat
[11:28] <rogpeppe> i need a review of this please, towards fixing a juju critical bug: https://github.com/juju/persistent-cookiejar/pull/9
[11:29] <rogpeppe> mgz_: ^
[11:29] <rogpeppe> mgz_: i don't think that this will entirely fix CI problems with the cookies though
[11:41] <jam> frobware, dooferlad, dimitern, voidspace: did any of you get a chance to play with the updated kvm_mass script?
[11:41] <dooferlad> jam not I
[11:41] <jam> k
[11:41] <jam> dooferlad: did you have any other questions about bug #1510651?
[11:41] <mup> Bug #1510651: Agents are "lost" after terminating a state server in an HA env <bug-squad> <ensure-availability> <juju-core:Triaged by dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510651>
[11:42] <dimitern> jam, not yet, I have to fix my vmaas first
[11:42] <dooferlad> jam: I probably will have, just not yet.
[11:43] <frobware> jam: not me either
[11:43] <jam> k. I'm happy to get feedback if there are thoughts about what could make it better
[11:43] <jam> the next step I was considering was creating networks
[11:43] <frobware> jam: I have 12+ nodes in various combos already.
[11:43] <jam> say you could tell maas what networks and what spaces you wanted, and then it would make sure those existed in libvirt
[11:44] <jam> frobware: hopefully a given node isn't in more than one maas, given each maas wants to control its subnet
[11:44] <frobware> jam: no I have some half-baked naming scheme that mostly keeps me out of trouble.
[11:47] <jam> frobware: heh. I was just using "m1-foo1" and was planning to go to "m2" if I set up another maas.
[11:49] <voidspace> jam: not yet
[11:50] <voidspace> dimitern: no dice
[11:50] <voidspace> dimitern: it still reports imaginative-hose.maas as the dns name
[11:50] <voidspace> dimitern: and I can still ssh to the machine via "juju ssh 1"
[11:51] <voidspace> dimitern: I guess imaginative-hose still sorts earlier
[11:51] <voidspace> dimitern: although 10.0 should sort before 172.16 - anything else I can do to trigger the bug
[11:51] <dimitern> voidspace, but do you see the extra address you added?
[11:51] <voidspace> dimitern: see it where?
[11:52] <dimitern> voidspace, well, in the log - as part of the machine addresses
[11:52] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll check
[11:53] <voidspace> dimitern: not in all-machines.log
[11:53] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll change the log level and check again
[11:53] <voidspace> in 10 minutes...
[11:54] <dimitern> voidspace, for the sake of the test, you could reduce the instance poller timeout
[11:54] <voidspace> dimitern: yeah, adding better instrumentation would be a good idea too
[11:54] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[11:55] <dimitern> voidspace, looking at the network package's address sort order is: public IPs first, hostnames next (except "localhost"), cloud-local, machine-local, link-local
[11:55] <voidspace> dimitern: I'll try and find the bug report and see if it has repro instructions
[11:56] <dimitern> voidspace, there's also the piece of code in maas that *always* adds the hostname of the machine in the response of the provider addresses
[11:57] <voidspace> dimitern: yeah, but the bug was a problem for maas users - so it is obviously possible to trigger it
[11:58] <dimitern> voidspace, I think the difference is machines hosting units (and needing a preferred private address) and machines not hosting units (which only need the public address to display in status)
[11:58] <dimitern> voidspace, so I'd try not add-machine + add extra IP, but deploy a unit and then add extra IP on that machine
[12:00] <voidspace> dimitern: I did the latter anyway (used deploy and not add-machine)
[12:00] <voidspace> I'll find the bug report
[12:00] <rogpeppe> if you want master unblocked, could someone please review this? https://github.com/juju/persistent-cookiejar/pull/9
[12:01] <dimitern> rogpeppe, reviewed
[12:01] <rogpeppe> dimitern: ta!
[12:59] <rick_h__> morning
[14:45] <mup> Bug #1512371 opened: Using MAAS 1.9 as provider using DHCP NIC will prevent juju bootstrap <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512371>
[14:48] <mup> Bug #1512371 changed: Using MAAS 1.9 as provider using DHCP NIC will prevent juju bootstrap <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512371>
[14:51] <mup> Bug #1512371 opened: Using MAAS 1.9 as provider using DHCP NIC will prevent juju bootstrap <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512371>
[15:16] <cmars> wwitzel3, can i get a review of http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3040/ ? (fixes-1511717)
[15:17] <cmars> wwitzel3, thanks!
[15:21] <mgz_> cmars: if a user has both an old juju client installed, and a newer juju in ~/.local or something for testing a shiny new feature
[15:22] <mgz_> do we break them?
[15:23] <cmars> mgz_, hmm.. i guess such a user would need to use separate JUJU_HOME directories in that case, wouldn't they?
[15:23] <mgz_> well, I know they don't in practice
[15:23] <cmars> mgz_, but they'd have to, because the newer juju will have providers that the old juju doesn't understand
[15:23] <mgz_> when I give someone a binary to test I don't say "only use this with JUJU_HOME=/tmp"
[15:34] <mgz_> natefinch: I believe we are still on step #1: make the unit tests pass with go 1.5
[15:35] <natefinch> mgz_: oh man. is there a list of what needs to be fixed? The LXD provider is dependent on go 1.3+ due to limitations with the LXD Go library
[15:35] <mgz_> the remaining issues with run-unit-tests-wily-amd64 look like big environmental things rather than nice easy things like map ordering
[15:36] <mgz_> bug 1494951 looks like one place to start
[15:36] <mup> Bug #1494951: Panic "unexpected message" in vivid and wily tests <bug-squad> <ci> <intermittent-failure> <panic> <unit-tests> <wily> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1494951>
[15:37] <natefinch> mgz_: do you know if there's a team assigned to get us working on 1.5?
[15:37] <mgz_> I know that some of the other-way-uppers have fixed bugs relating to it, but just as good citizens
[15:37] <mfoord> dimitern: ping
[15:37] <katco> frobware 's team is on bug squad i think
[15:38] <katco> natefinch: mgz_: frobware: seems like getting 1.5 bugs fixed needs to be high priority
[15:39] <ericsnow> with a plugin provider it wouldn't be a short-term issue...
[15:39] <ericsnow> just sayin' :)
[15:39] <mgz_> the other thing I see a lot of in the history is worker/peer group related test failures
[15:40] <natefinch> ericsnow: we'd still need 1.5 support in trusty, and I don't think we'd also have 1.2 in trusty, so that would be a problem
[15:40] <ericsnow> natefinch: true
[15:40] <mgz_> yeah, we can't backport toolchain to trusty
[15:41] <frobware> katco, ack
[15:41] <dimitern> mfoord, pong
[15:42] <mfoord> dimitern: reading through the ignore-machine-addresses bug it looks like it only affected containers
[15:42] <mfoord> dimitern: is that true?
[15:42] <mfoord> dimitern: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1463480
[15:42] <mup> Bug #1463480: Failed upgrade, mixed up HA addresses <blocker> <canonical-bootstack> <ha> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Fix Released by wallyworld> <juju-core
[15:42] <mup> 1.22:Fix Committed by thumper> <juju-core 1.24:Fix Released by wallyworld> <hacluster (Juju Charms Collection):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463480>
[15:42] <mfoord> I assume without addressable containers on as they're starting pre-1.24
[15:42] <dimitern> mfoord, yeah
[15:42] <mfoord> also it looks hard to reproduce (timing related)
[15:43] <mfoord> dimitern: so to reproduce this I really need to add an lxc container
[15:43] <mfoord> and add the virtual nic there (?)
[15:43] <mfoord> I have a build with extra instrumentation and a shorter poll time on the instancepoller
[15:43] <dimitern> mfoord, let me think
[15:43] <natefinch> mgz_: how can we require 1.5 if 1.5 is not in trusty?
[15:43] <mfoord> although it looks to me like the instancepoller only requests provider addresses and that machine addresses are done by the machiner
[15:44] <dimitern> mfoord, yeah, the machine addresses are updated on machiner startup
[15:44] <mfoord> dimitern: so really rebooting the machine should trigger it
[15:44] <mfoord> dimitern: I'll add a container and reboot
[15:44] <mfoord> once the container is up
[15:44] <dimitern> mfoord, no need to reboot - just restart the machine agent
[15:45] <mfoord> dimitern: but should I add the extra nic to the container or to the host
[15:45] <mfoord> or both just to be sure...
[15:45] <dimitern> mfoord, I guess both, and that address should be like 10.0.0.x
[15:45] <mfoord> dimitern: ok
[15:45] <mfoord> thanks
[15:47] <mgz_> natefinch: you can't, but how are you running an lxd provider on trusty?
[15:47] <natefinch> mgz_: Is trusty never having anything beyond juju 1.25?
[15:50] <mgz_> natefinch: that's not the plan, but I don't know what the intention is with your lxd provider work
[15:50] <natefinch> mgz_: our intention is to have a juju provider that uses lxd in 1.26
[15:51] <mgz_> so, what's your plan with the existing backports to trusty scheme?
[15:52] * mgz_ enjoys circular conversations
[15:53] <mfoord> our normal plan is to leave that up to QA to sort out...
[15:53] <natefinch> ^^
[15:53] <mgz_> how to release software you're writing is not someone else's problem
[15:53] <natefinch> mgz_: it is when someone else is putting up the restrictions while simultaneously telling us to deliver software that has a problem with those restrictions
[15:54] <mgz_> you do know those two things are not from me, and are different parties, right?
[15:54] <natefinch> mgz_: absolutely. Sorry if my tone indicated I thought it was your fault. I know it's not.
[15:54] <mgz_> the distro, and sanity in general, limits what we can do in terms of backports
[15:55] <mgz_> and mark, and the desire for shiny features, wants everyone to have a great experience
[15:55] <natefinch> mgz_: I guess the answer is, people at a higher pay grade are going to have to figure out what to do
[15:56] <natefinch> mgz_: the LXD provider will fail gracefully if lxd is not installed... but the code still requires 1.5 to build.
[15:56] <mgz_> there's so such thing as a !build for go versions, right...
[15:57] <mgz_> we can always do the equivelent in the debian rules, just rm the package
[15:57] <natefinch> mgz_: no, but you can just set flags at build time to trigger !build code
[15:58] <natefinch> mgz_: however, having the same codebase support both 1.2 and 1.5 would seem to be adding a lot of developer/qa/etc overhead.... but again, that's above my pay grade.
[15:58] <mgz_> anyway, the first thing is getting it working well in development
[15:59] <mgz_> natefinch: well, it's what we do currently, and isn't too hard
[15:59] <mgz_> I know it's anti-go, but python code manages to support multiple *interpreter* versions okay
[16:01] <mgz_> trusty has go 1.21. vivid has go 1.33. wily/xenial have go 1.5.1
[16:01] <mgz_> +.
[16:01] <alexisb> mgz_, natefinch trusty will need 1.5 for lxd as well as juju
[16:01] <alexisb> the current plan is to work on getting it into backports
[16:01] <alexisb> so it can be used both by juju and lxd
[16:02] <mgz_> alexisb: actual backports? or srued?
[16:02] <alexisb> mgz_, actual backports
[16:02] <alexisb> sru not needed
[16:03] <mgz_> okay, ace. so, the provider failing neatly is a requirement.
[16:06] <mup> Bug #1512399 opened: ERROR environment destruction failed: destroying storage: listing volumes: Get https://x.x.x.x:8776/v2/<UUID>/volumes/detail: local error: record overflow <amulet> <openstack> <uosci> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512399>
[16:10] <mgz_> anyway, this is something to work out early, thanks for asking nate, we do want to know exactly how we're getting the lxc provider distributed.
[16:25] <rogpeppe> mgz_: do you know whether cookie isolation in CI has been done yet?
[16:28] <mgz_> jog set the env var as you'd discussed, not sure it's everywhere it's needed but at least in the obvious place.
[16:28] <mgz_> hm, actually that change got reverted
[16:28] <mgz_> rogpeppe: gimme a sec, I'll find out.
[16:28] <jog> mgz_, It broke other tests
[16:28] <jog> older versions of Juju
[17:09] <mup> Bug #1511771 changed: regression setting tools-metadata-url <blocker> <ci> <regression> <set-env> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511771>
[17:12] <mup> Bug #1511771 opened: regression setting tools-metadata-url <blocker> <ci> <regression> <set-env> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511771>
[17:15] <mup> Bug #1511771 changed: regression setting tools-metadata-url <blocker> <ci> <regression> <set-env> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511771>
[17:18] <mup> Bug #1511771 opened: regression setting tools-metadata-url <blocker> <ci> <regression> <set-env> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511771>
[17:21] <mup> Bug #1511771 changed: regression setting tools-metadata-url <blocker> <ci> <regression> <set-env> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511771>
[17:28] <natefinch> ericsnow: you mentioned in your review of my better error message PR that I should rebase against either your or wayne's personal branches... I hesitate to rebase against a personal branch. Are you guys going to get one of those things landed soon so I can just rebase against the main lxd branch?
[17:28] <ericsnow> natefinch: just waiting for your reviews :)
[17:29] <natefinch> ericsnow: that the support using local lxd as remote?
[17:29] <ericsnow> natefinch: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3012/ and http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3013/
[17:30] <natefinch> ericsnow: ok, yeah, I'm looking at those now. Guess it'll be an unofficial review day for me
[17:30] <ericsnow> natefinch: thanks
[17:32] <frobware> mfoord, a heads-up on our recent changes to rendering /e/n/i --- https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1512371
[17:32] <mup> Bug #1512371: Using MAAS 1.9 as provider using DHCP NIC will prevent juju bootstrap <bug-squad> <maas-provider> <network> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512371>
[17:34] <natefinch> ericsnow: gah... saw the copied file from github.com/lxd, so I went to look at their repo for licensing... and they don't even have a LICENSE file. Geez
[17:34] <ericsnow> natefinch: yep
[17:39] <cmars> mgz_, here's a cookie update for 1.25, what do you think? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3041/
[17:54] <natefinch> ericsnow: wow, that lxd/shared.GenCert function is awful. Have you filed a bug to their project to de-awful it?
[17:54] <ericsnow> natefinch: was waiting :)
[17:55] <natefinch> ericsnow: for what?
[17:55] <ericsnow> natefinch: until we had settled down on our LXD provider work
[17:56] <natefinch> ericsnow: If that's the only way to create certs for LXD, seems pretty awful regardless of what anyone else is doing
[17:57] <ericsnow> natefinch: agreed
[17:58] <natefinch> ericsnow: I'm willing to write a bug now if you'd prefer.
[17:58] <ericsnow> natefinch: sure, though I'd prefer the reviews first :)
[17:58] <natefinch> ericsnow: right right
[18:03] <mfoord> frobware: I saw
[18:03] <mfoord> frobware: ouch
[18:03] <mfoord> frobware: although I don't think it's the recent changes to be fair, I think it's maas 1.9
[18:03] <mfoord> frobware: will look tomorrow
[18:03] <mfoord> EOD
[20:57] <davechen1y> thumper: afk breakfast
[20:57] <davechen1y> i'll call you after taht
[21:01] <mup> Bug #1512481 opened: register dns names for units in MAAS <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512481>
[21:04] <mup> Bug #1512481 changed: register dns names for units in MAAS <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512481>
[21:07] <mup> Bug #1512481 opened: register dns names for units in MAAS <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512481>
[21:09] <thumper> davechen1y: ack
[21:34] <cmars> hey waigani i'd like to try writing a CI test. where should I start?
[21:37] <waigani> cmars: https://github.com/juju/juju/wiki/ci-tests :)
[21:38] <cmars> waigani, thanks
[21:38] <waigani> np
[22:33] <perrito666> ah finally, the server holding my irc got cut from part of the world
[22:33] <perrito666> (and by cut I mean something sliced the fiber)
[22:39] <mwhudson> perrito666: https://www.reddit.com/r/cablefail/comments/1y2ei8/lost_in_the_woods_call_a_backhoe/cfh4wox
[22:41] <perrito666> lol
[23:26] <davechen1y> thumper: ping
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-touch
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[07:22] <dholbach> good morning
[07:32] <Guest42341> gm
[07:52] <sturmflut> Good morning!
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> camera app gets black screen on my bq 4.5 OTA7, any clues?
[08:06] <anpok_> lotuspsychje: you accidently denied camera hardware access of the camera app
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> anpok_: let me check
[08:07] <anpok_> at least that happened to my wife and a few other users reporting that
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> anpok_: oh thank you, i didnt remember touching that setting weird
[08:10] <anpok_> lotuspsychje: hm maybe thats a bug?
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> anpok_: not sure, you think after resetting phone to defaults, camera is disabled by default?
[08:24] <lesamourai> hi, is it possible to get meizu specific vivid image on emulator? none of the channels listed seem to work
[09:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Deviled Egg Day! ๐
[10:04] <Mirv> cimi: hey, could the Qt for 16.04 LTS session be moved to eg Wed 14:00 UTC? or if swap with 16.04 LTS Desktop QA plan on Tue (which is at 16:00 UTC)
[11:00] <guest123124> welp i get errors while extracting http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/vivid/daily-preinstalled/current/vivid-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz on the phone
[11:00] <guest123124> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[11:00] <guest123124> i'm using -v for verbose ... but i can't see any error message except this one
[11:16] <cimi> Mirv, let me have a look
[11:20] <cimi> Mirv, there is no problem for me, if we update who else is involved in the other slots...
[11:20] <Mirv> cimi: ok. well Wed 14 is empty.
[11:20] <cimi> Mirv, I meat also lorn
[11:21] <cimi> Mirv, not sure which time will be for him
[11:21] <cimi> but we can ignore that
[11:22] <Mirv> cimi: checking it a bit, earlier would be less in the middle of the night for him, so I think it should be fine
[11:22] <Mirv> cimi: I can also ping him, no problem
[12:22] <Mirv> jhodapp: can you review the https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/qtubuntu-media/port_to_new_audio_role_api/+merge/273392 that was updated before my holiday?
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows why the gmail app doesnt give a sound on every email incomming?
[13:05] <pmcgowan> lotuspsychje, thre is a bug that notifications dont sound if the app is the active app
[13:05] <pmcgowan> fix in progress
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> pmcgowan: ok thank you
[13:19] <pmcgowan> jibel, hi is there a workaround to enable dev mode while the switch is broken?
[13:26] <jgdx> pmcgowan, android-gadget-service enable adb using the terminal app
[13:28] <jibel> pmcgowan, you can flash from with --developer-mode. It's probably possible to enable it from the command line I don't know where the information is stored on the device.
[13:29] <jhodapp> Mirv, done...before landing that we will need to update media-hub and pulseaudio to also change the definition of the audio roles
[13:30] <pmcgowan> jgdx, btw how does one do tab n the terminal app
[13:31] <pmcgowan> jgdx, and thanks that worked jibel
[13:32] <jibel> pmcgowan, double-tap to do a <tab> in the terminal app
[13:33] <pmcgowan> ah thanks
[13:35] <Mirv> jhodapp: ok, media-hub and pulseaudio can be added to the existing landing https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/512 then
[13:37] <jhodapp> Mirv, alright
[13:46] <jgdx> pmcgowan, don't think you can.. I wish it worked.
[13:46] <jgdx> aah tab tab, not gui tab
[13:46] <Mirv> cimi: I think you dropped from IRC, but can you do the session switch to the empty slot at the beginning of Wed?
[13:47] <pmcgowan> right
[14:03] <lesamourai> need to run meizu 15.04 image on emulator , any clues?
[14:04] <mardy> jdstrand: hi! Did you see my mail about the OA policy for the vivid overlay?
[14:07] <jimbojambo> Hi guys, i'm wondering if with the usb is it possible communicate with an arduino or similar
[14:07] <jimbojambo> with the ubuntu touch OS
[14:08] <davmor2> lesamourai: you can't they are completely different pieces of software, emulator only runs the emulator image
[14:08] <ogra_> not with an unhacked system ... by default the usb port is used by the android gadget driver (to make adb and mtp work)
[14:09] <Hawk_> Hello
[14:09] <ogra_> you would have to hack that out to drive somethin like a serial line to the arduino over it
[14:09] <lesamourai> i see , thanks davmor
[14:10] <lesamourai> is it possible meizu and bq using different dbus?
[14:11] <jimbojambo> ogra_: is there someone who hacked it? I know jolla have the i2c interface, why not expand the usb port capabilities to a real usb on a real OS?
[14:12] <ogra_> because adb is used in the factory (factory line tests run through it etc)
[14:13] <Stskeeps> also you can't do OTG on all devices either
[14:13] <ogra_> to expand the capabilities you would have to hack up (and enhance) the android_gadget driver in the kernel ... or just turn it off and load some other driver
[14:13] <ogra_> right
[14:13] <davmor2> lesamourai: no, just different hardware and drivers, dbus is the same across the board
[14:13] <ogra_> though i think it is on by default for all production phones in ubuntu atm
[14:14] <ogra_> (OTG)
[14:14] <lesamourai> thanks davmor
[14:16] <jimbojambo> I know there is the OTG on BQ phones
[14:56] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, after the current build is done for silo 9, give it another try with the new music-scope
[14:56] <jhodapp> tsdgeos, abeato landed a couple of fixes that are related to the issues you were seeing
[14:56] <tsdgeos> jhodapp: should fix the blocking of the ui?
[14:56] <tsdgeos> cool
[14:56] <Mirv> jhodapp: hmm, can you offer the media-hub patch for the transition (bug is bug #1493851)? I could do sed:ing but it's probably faster if you do that instead you pointing out the additionally needed things one by one.
[14:57] <Mirv> jhodapp: for pulseaudio, are you the correct person for that too, or someone else?
[14:58] <abeato> tsdgeos, it fixes the growing track_index_lut.size(), which could help
[14:58] <tsdgeos> ok
[14:58] <jhodapp> Mirv, that would be David Henningson
[14:58] <abeato> tsdgeos, the silo is still building though, I'll ping you back when it finished
[14:58] <abeato> *finishes
[14:58] <Mirv> jhodapp: the pulseaudio part? and media-hub you?
[14:59] <jhodapp> Mirv, sorry, pulse part
[14:59] <jhodapp> Mirv, once the pulse part is complete, I can make the quick media-hub changes
[15:00] <Mirv> jhodapp: ok, thanks!
[15:00] <jhodapp> Mirv, np, let me talk to David about this fix
[15:05] <Mirv> jhodapp: thanks! I'll just update the bug again with the plan. the silo 059 could be landed already actually, as it's a build time detection of the Qt version and they'd then be no-change rebuilt as part of the Qt silo. But pulseaudio and media-hub can't detect the Qt version since they don't use it so those probably need to be added to the Qt 5.5 silo.
[15:06] <jhodapp> Mirv, let's hold off landing silo 59 until we can test the entire stack together, if that's ok with you
[15:08] <Mirv> jhodapp: well landing 059 would be a no-op because of the #ifdef:s, I mainly prefer it to reduce the size of the Qt 5.5 silo, but then if you want to test + land together they'd go to 012 instead.
[15:10] <tsdgeos> robru: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/phablet-tools/apt-get-update-for-install-packages/+merge/276400
[15:12] <abeato> tsdgeos, jhodapp new packages built in silo 9
[15:12] <tsdgeos> k
[15:12] <jhodapp> Mirv, ok, definitely would like to test the entire stack together for the audio role changes before landing any of it
[15:12] <jhodapp> Mirv, just to make sure our assumptions will work out
[15:12] <Mirv> jhodapp: ok
[15:12] <Mirv> jhodapp: then 059 can stay for a while still but will be also part of 012 so only 012 will actually land
[15:13] <jhodapp> Mirv, so use 59 then for pulse and media-hub?
[15:14] <Mirv> jhodapp: you only get the new Qt from silo 012, so everything would go to 012 in that case. I can upload there. 059 is only if you support both old and new API via #ifdef so you could theoretically land the changes without new Qt.
[15:16] <jhodapp> Mirv, ah ok
[15:16] <jhodapp> Mirv, David isn't online so sent him an email letting him know we need to discuss the pulse changes...let's see what he says when he gets back
[15:19] <abeato> jhodapp, the (random) test failure I am seeing is due to on_track_changed() being emitted before on_track_added() in add_track_with_uri_at(), I think the order should be inverted, was there any reason for this?
[15:20] <jhodapp> abeato, no, but that's what I added the queue for in the tests so you can verify the order without running in to the issue that I believe you are seeing
[15:20] <jhodapp> *deque
[15:20] <jhodapp> abeato, but no there was no specific reason for that from my memory
[15:21] <jhodapp> abeato, let me double check that
[15:21] <jhodapp> abeato, no, definitely no reason for that particular ordering
[15:22] <jhodapp> abeato, feel free to change the order, but at least one other test will need updating in the playlist tests
[15:23] <abeato> jhodapp, there is a real issue with this, as this produces the error trace "Failed to look up track for index -1" (changed processed before added)
[15:23] <abeato> "added" always happens after "changed", but for whatever reason even in that case "added" is usually processed first
[15:24] <Mirv> jhodapp: thanks!
[15:34] <davmor2> jamesh: allow me to direct you towards ahayzen, he has a small request regarding music-player autopilot tests and landings of mediascanner. Currently they inject a mock db so if you change the schemas it breaks their tests, is there anyway you can give the community team a heads up of pending db changes at all, please?
[15:34] <ahayzen> thanks davmor2 :-)
[15:36] <tsdgeos> ogra_: maybe you can have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/phablet-tools/apt-get-update-for-install-packages/+merge/276400 ?
[15:40] <behrooz_> Hello i have nexus 4 and i installed ubuntu 15.04 (r24) on it. i have an issue on media player. media player dosen't work. it don't player video file and dont play video record from camera.
[15:49] <ogra_> tsdgeos, i would probably not make that a general thing of "writable" but rather push it into the citrain tool
[15:49] <behrooz_> is there anyone here?
[15:49] <ogra_> tsdgeos, the package lists eat quite some space
[15:49] <tsdgeos> ogra_: but that tool is doing lots of apt-get already
[15:50] <ogra_> phablet-config writable ?
[15:50] <tsdgeos> ogra_: it has a command line to install packages but no way for the packages to be up to date
[15:50] <tsdgeos> ogra_: yes
[15:50] <ogra_> that should only call the dbus method and reboot
[15:50] <ogra_> who added that
[15:50] <tsdgeos> not me, i'm only fixing it :D
[15:51] <ogra_> oh, i see thats extra args ... not a plain "writable" call
[15:51] <ogra_> yeah, for all package operations that looks fine
[15:52] <ogra_> i think robru is nowadays the upstream of phablet-tools, so you should get his signoff
[15:52] <surc> Hey, I'm running into an issue I can't figure out when installing ubuntu-touch on a nexus 4 using the developer.ubuntu.com instructions (rebooting from the ubuntu recovery lands me in android again), anybody familiar with that?
[15:52] <robru> noooo
[15:53] <robru> tsdgeos: citrain tool no longer calls phablet-config since a recent commit
[15:53] <behrooz_> how can i remove media player on ubuntu touch and install it again?
[15:53] <dobey> surc: what version of android is on your device?
[15:54] <dobey> behrooz_: you can't. but the app is almost certainly not the issue
[15:54] <tsdgeos> robru: ok? still the instructions someone wrote for unity8 include a call to that tool that breaks if the update is not there
[15:54] <robru> tsdgeos: what?
[15:54] <behrooz_> doby why i can't play any video file with it?
[15:55] <surc> dobey, it's 5.1.0 I believe.
[15:55] <robru> tsdgeos: sorry I'm at a sprint, can you email me all the details and i'll get backt o you later
[15:55] <tsdgeos> robru: development instructions to setup the phone
[15:55] <dobey> behrooz_: if you open the gallery app, does it have a thumbnail for the video?
[15:55] <behrooz_> yes it does
[15:55] <surc> Do I need to update it to the newest? I was doing a factory restore, and there were 3 versions of 5.1.1 for the N4, so I was hesitant to grab one.
[15:55] <ogra_> if you play it from there it will use the mediaplayer
[15:55] <tsdgeos> robru: i don't know which details you want, i just came across a call to that call that failed because an update wasn't done beforehand and i think it's pretty clear it makes sense honestly
[15:55] <dobey> surc: grab the 4.4.4 android image, flash it fully, boot to android, reboot to fastboot, and then flash the device
[15:56] <surc> Ahhh, *too* new. Gotcha. :P I'll give that a shot, thanks :)
[15:56] <behrooz_> i select video , media player open but screen is black and video does't play
[15:56] <dobey> surc: ubuntu doesn't yet work with the android 5 recovery/kernel installed
[15:56] <ogra_> behrooz_, from the gallery ?
[15:56] <surc> Oh well yeah that would make sense why it doesn't work for me, then.
[15:56] <behrooz_> yes
[15:56] <surc> Thanks a bunch dobey :)
[15:56] <robru> tsdgeos: the thing is that I have no idea what you're talking about so any details would be great
[15:56] <ogra_> behrooz_, try the video scope then ... if that doesnt play it either it must be a codec the phone doesnt know
[15:56] <dobey> behrooz_: i don't know. sounds like a bug. please report it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediaplayer-app
[15:57] <ogra_> if so, file a bug
[15:57] <tsdgeos> robru: ok
[15:57] <dobey> ogra_: well if gallery app has a thumbnail, the phone probably supports the codec enough to play the video. :)
[15:58] <ogra_> right, but there might be differences in how the scope and the gallery app start it
[15:58] <dobey> fwiw, i just played an mp4 i saved off youtube just fine on my mako, but i've got rc-proposed on it, so maybe it's a bug that's already been fixed
[15:58] <ogra_> if it doesnt work in both its a mediaplayer thing
[15:58] <ogra_> dobey, thumbnails are generated using SW decoding ...
[15:58] <dobey> they both just launch a video:// url afaik
[15:59] <ogra_> so that doesnt say anything about the mediaplayer capabilities
[15:59] <ogra_> who can only use the hw codecs afaik
[15:59] <behrooz_> doby i install ubuntu touch last night on nexus 4. after installation i can't play any video file . i search website for codec and i figure out how it does . i install gstreamer1.0 and media player can play my video file. but after morning media player does't play video file . even video record with camera nexus 4
[16:00] <dobey> ogra_: nope, thumbnails are generated via the hw too
[16:00] <ogra_> dobey, are you sure ? there was a long blogpost on how the thumbnailer was switched to use sw codecs
[16:00] <ogra_> and speed comparisons etc
[16:01] <dobey> ogra_: well, it certainly can't use codecs we don't ship. and gstreamer is used in both cases, so if the codec is available at all, the video should play, regardless of whether it's hw or sw
[16:01] <ogra_> well, the mediaplayer uses the hw codecs (through streamer-android) i dont thnk it can even use any sw codecs atm
[16:02] <ogra_> though ask jhodapp, i might be wrong
[16:02] <ogra_> *gstreamer-android
[16:02] <ogra_> the thumbnailer doesnt use gstreamer-android at all afaik
[16:03] <dobey> it uses the hybris back-end
[16:03] <jhodapp> dobey, ogra_ any software video codecs are not used and cannot be used presently
[16:03] <jhodapp> only hardware
[16:03] <ogra_> ah, i thought it uses the SW codecs from the rootfs (which the player doesnt)
[16:03] <dobey> exactly
[16:03] <behrooz_> is there any codec what i must install them?
[16:04] <ogra_> behrooz_, no, you cant just install codecs
[16:04] <dobey> no
[16:04] <jhodapp> correct
[16:04] <behrooz_> so how i play video file?
[16:04] <ogra_> jhodapp, and the thumbnailer also uses the hw codecs ?
[16:04] <dobey> behrooz_: you need to be more specific about what type of video file you're trying to play, first of all
[16:05] <jhodapp> ogra_, yes, although there is a WIP branch to use gstreamer software codecs as this provides a much lower latency experience since you don't have to configure the hw first
[16:05] <ogra_> right, thats what i remember ...
[16:05] <ogra_> i thought that landed already
[16:06] <ogra_> (though that will indeed introduce a discrepancy as dobey described ... thumbnails will then work for any file while plaxyback only works for supported HW codecs)
[16:06] <dobey> even so, the hw would still have to be used for any codecs we can't legally ship the software codecs for, when that is the case
[16:06] <behrooz_> my video file has h264 code and mkv format
[16:07] <jhodapp> ogra_, yeah it's my understand that, like what dobey said, we'll only be including specific software codecs by default
[16:07] <jhodapp> *understanding
[16:07] <dobey> h264 in mkv is probably not supported
[16:07] <behrooz_> dobey but i play file last night
[16:08] <dobey> behrooz_: and it doesn't play today? and you didn't change anything?
[16:08] <behrooz_> no
[16:08] <dobey> behrooz_: then file a bug report
[16:08] <jhodapp> mkv is supported with h.264
[16:08] <dobey> ok
[16:08] <behrooz_> ok, what is name media player for run terminal ?
[16:09] <jhodapp> behrooz_, mediaplayer-app /home/phablet/Videos/my_video.mkv --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/mediaplayer-app.desktop
[16:09] <behrooz_> i want run player on terminal and see output
[16:09] <behrooz_> ok
[16:09] <behrooz_> guys
[16:09] <jhodapp> behrooz_, you can also see it's output in /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/
[16:09] <jhodapp> behrooz_, there will be a mediaplayer-app log file in there
[16:10] <behrooz_> is impossible add new layout to keyboard ?
[16:10] <behrooz_> i need new layout for my native language.
[16:10] <dobey> behrooz_: in the language panel in system-settings, you can select keyboard layouts
[16:11] <behrooz_> i know that but there is not layout my language on there.
[16:11] <dobey> if the language you need isn't listed in there, then it likely doesn't have enough coverage to get pulled into the image
[16:12] <dobey> if your language is there and doesn't have a layout for your language, then that's probably a bug. file it against ubuntu-keyboard. you can submit a layout for it as well if you want
[16:13] <behrooz_> where is i can submit for it?
[16:15] <ogra_> https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-keyboard/trunk
[16:16] <ogra_> and file a bug first
[16:16] <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-keyboard/+filebug
[16:19] <behrooz_> thanks
[16:23] <behrooz_> guys this is media player log http://www.pastebin.ca/3231967
[16:26] <habisravi> help me in unlocking bq aquaris 4.5 ubuntu phone
[16:28] <habisravi> no success with fastboot oem unlock
[16:30] <ogra_> habisravi, fastboot oem unlock is a nexus specific thing (theer are a few others supporting that but it is rare and the aquaris line definitely doesnt support it)
[16:31] <ogra_> what do you want to do ?
[16:31] <habisravi> i want to set my own mp3 ringtone
[16:32] <habisravi> i thought i will mount the root partition and replace the ringtone with my own file.
[16:32] <surc> Hm, using Android 4.4.4 I'm still having issues getting past the recovery menu to booting ubuntu. ADB is recognizing the device as being there and being in recovery mode, is there anything I can check through adb to figure out what's up?
[16:32] <surc> Oh
[16:32] <surc> Oh I think I just wasn't waiting long enough for it to auto-start it's thing >.<
[16:33] <ogra_> habisravi, and why would you unlock the bootloder for that ?
[16:34] <habisravi> i don't have write permission in /
[16:34] <ogra_> you can just enable developer mode, remount / as rw, place your file in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones and remount / ro again
[16:34] <habisravi> oh i will try that
[16:34] <ogra_> thnen the ringtone will show up in the selection
[16:46] <habisravi> thanks ogra_ . . i was able to set my ringtone..
[16:50] <ogra_> habisravi, just make sure you are readonly again to not taint the rootfs ... if you are unsure, reboot
[16:51] <habisravi> yep.. i rebooted
[16:57] * ogra_ wonders if we shouldnt just make the whole sound path writable so people can "sudo cp" their ringtones and alarm sounds without making the whole system writable
[16:57] <pmcgowan> hmm why not
[16:57] <mcphail> ogra_: +1
[16:59] <BOHverkill> +1
[16:59] <brendand> ogra_, or just allow audio files to be chosen from /home/phablet/Music?
[16:59] <ogra_> brendand, sure ...
[17:00] <Mirv> mhall119: can you move Qt for 16.04 LTS from Tue 18:00 to eg empty slot Wed 14:00? I tried cimi earlier but he seems busy.
[17:00] <ogra_> i think thats planned as a final target
[17:00] <ahayzen> bug 1268097
[17:00] <ahayzen> ogra_, we have content-hub export support in music now, so if system-settings were to implement the import part (like clock) you could do it through content-hub :-)
[17:01] <ogra_> bug 1512421
[17:01] * mcphail thinks /usr/local should be writable, as well
[17:02] <mhall119> Mirv: I think some of the Kubuntu devs where planning on attenting that, if we move it can you let them know?
[17:03] <Mirv> mhall119: I can, although there are no Kubuntu devs directly mentioned as attending there. but I can announce on kubuntu channel anyway.
[17:10] <mhall119> Mirv: please do, with UOS not everybody who plans on attending a session registers as attending
[17:11] <mhall119> Mirv: it's been moved to Wed. at 1400
[17:11] <Mirv> mhall119: thanks! I will.
[17:12] <Mirv> ...done
[17:26] <mhall119> thanks Mirv
[17:40] <dobey> mcphail: why should /usr/local be writable?
[17:41] <dobey> ogra_: the sound/alert selection should be fixed to not require sounds to be in system sound themes, and allow selection of arbitrary files in ~/Ringtones or whatever
[17:42] <ogra_> dobey, it should be fixed in several ways ... but til that happens people will make their phones writable just to put a ringtone in place
[17:42] <ogra_> making the dir writable prevents us from more broken phones ;)
[17:42] <dobey> ogra_: ~/.local/share/ not good enough for that?
[17:42] <ogra_> i dont think it can use ~/.local/share/ yet
[17:43] <dobey> ogra_: how does it prevent that? writing to system directories would still require root, so people are still very likely to break their phones
[17:43] <ogra_> sudo cp is a lot less intrusive than phablet-config writable (which makes you writable permanently)
[17:43] <ogra_> if people follow some weird howto ...
[17:44] <dobey> wouldn't it have to be some other directory than the current ones that was writable anyway?
[17:44] <dobey> otherwise updates could randomly result in files disappearing
[17:45] <ogra_> heh
[17:45] <ogra_> if files would randomly disapper just because you add something to writable-paths yu would ahve a wy worse prob :P
[17:46] <ogra_> and i need a new kbd :(
[17:46] <ogra_> writable-paths is safe i meant to say
[17:46] <dobey> well, i've had stuff disappear from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ before
[17:46] <ogra_> and the change is a one liner
[17:46] <ogra_> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ isnt writable
[17:46] <ogra_> by default
[17:47] <ogra_> did you add it to writabble-paths ?
[17:47] <dobey> are any directories which also include files from the system image, writable by default?
[17:49] <ogra_> dobey, all directories that are in the writable-paths file
[17:49] <dobey> where is that file?
[17:50] <ogra_> /etc/system-image
[17:50] <ogra_> thats the "fstab" for all the bindmounts
[17:52] <ogra_> dobey, in any case it doesnt do any harm to make the ringtone dir writable and makes it less error prone for hackers that put their own file in ... its a good interim until we actually support custom ringtones
[17:56] <dobey> i disagree. i think supporting themes in ~/.local/share/ is a better interim.
[17:56] <dobey> *shrug*
[18:07] <ogra_> dobey, is that implementable with a one line fix in 5min ?
[18:07] <ogra_> i simply dont think an interim should take more than that ...
[18:08] <dobey> ogra_: i don't know the code in question, so can't say with 100% certainty, but generally, yes
[18:09] <ogra_> i suspect it needs changing in multiple places ...
[18:10] <ogra_> (system settings to include the path for the selection ... dialer-app for using that path too etc etc)
[18:11] <ogra_> anyway, i filed bug 1512421 and if pmcgowan gfeels we shoudl have that he can triage it to someone :..
[18:11] <ogra_> i wont mind if it gets invalidated either ... but its a trivil fix
[18:29] <khod> Can we use vplay in ubuntu touch?
[18:29] <khod> Vplay from qt
[18:33] <dobey> what is vplay?
[18:34] <dobey> oh, i guess "maybe"
[18:35] <dobey> or i guess not. it's a propreitary ide and i guess they don't support ubuntu phone
[18:54] <khod> Sorry for my late reply but looks like you found it they fo have their own ide and that skipped my mind completely. Thanks for looking into it, i need a good way to make a constant side scroller like flappy bird. Basic as can be and id like to use a non-microsoft language (no c# or boo). If you know any it will be my first game so it will be basic.
[18:55] <ogra_> khod, talk to kenvandine, he has a game sframework for the phone that supports simple sidescrollers
[18:55] * kenvandine waves
[18:55] <ogra_> (see pathwind, it uses that)
[18:55] <khod> I may still try vplay since it uses qml and so does ubuntu and ubuntu touch.
[18:56] <ogra_> right, try it ...
[18:56] <khod> Oh i didnt know that how do i get ahlod of kenvandine
[18:56] <kenvandine> afaik, vplay won't work on ubuntu phone
[18:56] <ogra_> he waved above :)
[18:56] <khod> Oh i see him waving lol
[18:56] <mcphail> dobey: the FHS stipulates that /usr/local is for the system admin to use, and the distribution maintainers should keep their hands off. It should be writable for the system admin without hassle, and it should not be overwritten on distro upgrades. Neither happens on Ubuntu touch just now
[18:56] <kenvandine> khod, check out bacon2d.com
[18:56] <khod> Im not great with irc :)
[18:58] <khod> Checking bacon2d now
[19:00] <dobey> mcphail: I think that is a poor argument for having it be writable. the FHS doesn't really apply to static system images.
[19:02] <mcphail> dobey: static system images have no need to touch /usr/local
[19:02] <dobey> mcphail: static system images have no need for /usr/local at all
[19:02] <mcphail> dobey: and that's the way it should be. It doesn't mean the owner/admin has no need for it
[19:03] <kenvandine> khod, there was a bacon2d tutorial game written, basically a flappy bird game
[19:03] <kenvandine> khod, could be a good starting point :(
[19:03] <kenvandine> :-D rather
[19:03] <dobey> mcphail: what need would the owner of a phone have for /usr/local?
[19:03] <mcphail> dobey: well, I install gdbserver, for a start
[19:03] <kenvandine> khod, https://github.com/paulovap/bacon2d-flappybird
[19:04] <mcphail> dobey: /usr/local is as useful on a phone as it is on a computer
[19:05] <dobey> i'd say it's not useful on a computer either. i'd say it's a hack that results in people having broken systems
[19:05] <mcphail> dobey: that's only your opinion
[19:05] <dobey> no. it's an observation with plenty of evidence on askubuntu.com supporting it :)
[19:05] <mcphail> dobey: and one that isn't shared by the standards
[19:05] <davmor2> dobey: so on 135 so far so good
[19:07] <davmor2> dobey: I'm not seeing the issue victor was, and the behaviour seem to mirror that of ota7 so I'm happy, I'm just giving the rest of the plan a once over but so far so good
[19:07] <dobey> davmor2: right, 135 includes the fix for the issue victor was seeing
[19:07] <dobey> davmor2: but that's great, thanks. will you be able to test the pay-service silo after as well, or should i bug alesage to test that when you're done with pay-ui?
[19:11] <davmor2> dobey: possibly one for alesage as I'm 50 minutes from eod, but I'm not sure what alesage has on his plate, otherwise I can pick it up in the morning
[19:11] <ogra_> davmor2, 49min
[19:12] <davmor2> ogra_: 48 technically
[19:13] <dobey> heh
[19:13] <ogra_> huh ?
[19:13] <dobey> davmor2: ok
[19:13] <ogra_> nah
[19:13] <ogra_> 47
[19:13] <dobey> 46.45
[19:13] <wavis> Anyone purchased a device for ubuntu touch recently and happy with it? What device? I'm not sure where to start...
[19:25] <khod> Still rocking a nexus 4
[19:26] <khod> (kenvandine) do you know of any games already made in bacon2d. A quick google search didnt pull up any, i have a touch device if there is one in the software center.
[19:27] <dobey> khod: all the games from kenvandine are in bacon2d :)
[19:27] <kenvandine> pathwind is
[19:27] <kenvandine> 100 balls
[19:27] <kenvandine> falldown
[19:29] <WolfiWolfi> hello
[19:29] <khod> Booting up the old n4 now
[19:32] <WolfiWolfi> where i can ask something about a problem with facebook webapp on my ubuntu touch phone?
[19:35] <dobey> WolfiWolfi: here, or file a bug against webbrowser-app perhaps, assuming it's an issue with the software, and not an issue with facebook itself
[19:37] <WolfiWolfi> in the facebook webapp i can't aggrandize photos and images, so i can't show it right
[19:38] <dobey> you mean it doesn't have a way to open photos full screen?
[19:38] <dobey> that sounds like a problem with the facebook web site itself, and not webbrowser-app
[19:39] <WolfiWolfi> exactly, dobey. excuse me for my bad expression... :-/
[19:39] <WolfiWolfi> i can't show photos on full screen
[19:42] <dobey> WolfiWolfi: it's ok. translating can be hard sometimes :)
[19:42] <dobey> but sounds like a site issue, not a client issue
[19:44] <WolfiWolfi> ah ok. what i've to do now? it makes sense to contact facebook developer?
[19:44] <dobey> yes. complain to facebook that images can't be viewed full screen on their mobile site
[19:46] <WolfiWolfi> ok thanks a lot. and then, i can't send photos or images through facebook webapp. same basic problem?
[19:48] <khod> (kenvandine) pathwind looks awsome thats the kind of side scroller setup i need! Do you have any kind of tutorials to go with your games?
[19:48] <dobey> that could be a client issue. i don't know if the facebook web app works well with content-hub or not
[19:48] <WolfiWolfi> ah ok. thank's a lot dobey, now i will contact the facebook developer... :-)
[19:48] <kenvandine> khod, check out the getting started document at http://bacon2d.com/docs/
[19:49] <dobey> WolfiWolfi: if you hit the button to select a photo, do you get the content-hub to let you choose a photo from gallery?
[19:50] <WolfiWolfi> dobey, excuse me.. in the chat in facebook i can't send photos. there is no button to send files or photos?
[19:51] <dobey> oh, i don't know anything about that. i thought you meant in general, in the way that one shares a photo on g+ or twitter
[19:53] <dobey> WolfiWolfi: best way to verify if it's maybe a client or site issue, is try to use the same mobile site in firefox for example.
[19:53] <khod> kenvandine i did find that and i will start there. Didn't know if there were any step by step guides. Kinda a newbie may just poke around in the source too that may give some answers. Thank you so much for your time i cant wait to give it a go!
[19:54] <khod> Do you use tiled for your level creation?
[19:54] <kenvandine> i haven't, we've got plans for tiled import
[19:54] <kenvandine> but not implemented yet
[19:55] <WolfiWolfi> dobey: hm... which internet-browser can you propose me on ubuntu touch? to try?
[19:55] <kenvandine> not import... just loading levels from tiled
[19:57] <dobey> WolfiWolfi: not on the phone, but try to use the mobile site from firefox on your pc, by going to m.facebook.com or changing the user-agent to the android browser user-agent for example
[19:57] <WolfiWolfi> aah ok. :-) thank you
[20:01] <khod> So tiled should work it will just be better later if the implementation is added?
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[13:03] * alan_g_ realizes he needs DisplayConfiguration::clone() and spots alf_'s MP of it.
[13:07] <alf_> alan_g_: There are some g++-4.9 and clang builds issues with this branch, I need to update
[13:07] <alf_> alan_g_: @assignment ops, I included them for completeness
[13:07] <alf_> alan_g_: they are not necessary for our use case
[15:53] * alan_g now has a prospective MP with three prerequisites - LP is such fun!
[16:05] <bschaefer> :) alan_g hopefully you dont need to change anything in any of the branches
[16:07] <alan_g> bschaefer: changes I can merge - my problem is that I can only specify one prereq in LP
[16:07] <bschaefer> right, thats been an issue for a long time :(
[16:07] <bschaefer> i think its just how bzr works under the hood? (i talked to tim about it a while ago)
[16:07] <alan_g> If only two (or more) of them were on trunk.
[16:08] <alan_g> I don't see why bzr would be a problem
[16:08] <alan_g> But I've never delved into the LP code
[16:08] <bschaefer> i could have been LP that was the issue
[16:09] * bschaefer asked about it a couple years ago and cant remember the outcome of that conversation
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:00] <autowiz_> ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ์ด~~~~ ํ๋ณตํ ํ๋ฃจ ๋์ธ์~~
[00:04] <HolyKnight> ์ผํํ
[00:04] <HolyKnight> ์์์ผ.....
[00:15] <autowiz_> ์ํผ์ค๋ถ ๊ฐ๋ด๊ธฐ๊ฐ ์ฌ๋ผ์ค๋ ๋ณด๋ค์
[00:16] <autowiz_> ํ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ธฐ๋ถ ์ข~~ ์ ์ง์๋ผ๊ณ , ๋ฌธ์ ์ธ์ฌ ๋๋ฆฌ์ต๋๋ค. ๋์ถ~~ ( _ _ )
[00:40] <HolyKnight> ์์ด๊ณ ๊ตฝ์ค๊ตฝ์ค
[00:42] <PotatoGim> ์๋
ํ์ธ์~
[01:01] <ipeter_> ์๋
ํ์ธ์?
[01:01] <ipeter_> ์ข์ ์์์ผ์
๋๋ค.
[01:01] <ipeter_> ์ด์ฌํ ์ผํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.
[01:01] <ipeter_> ใ
ใ
[01:17] <HolyKnight> ํธ์ํ: ์ผ์ ์๋ฆฌํ์์ ๋ค๋์๋ 15๋
์ฐจ ๊ฐ๋ฐ์๋ถ pic.twitter.com/P1awjpyDKs
[01:18] <ipeter_> ์ ์ง์ง ๋ฟ์๋ค์.
[01:18] <ipeter_> ggg
[01:18] <ipeter_> ใ
ใ
ใ
[01:18] <ipeter_> razGon_MINILA: ์ ๊ฐ ์๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์ ๋บ์๊น์.
[01:18] <ipeter_> ๋ง์ด ์ฌํ๋ค์.
[01:24] <autowiz_> ํฌํ
ํ ๋ ๋๋์ด ์ฐ๋ฆฌ์๊ฒ๋ 11์์ด ์์ต๋๋ค. ใ
ใ
[01:24] <autowiz_> (๋ญ ํ๋์ผ์ด๋ ์ถํด๊ทผ ์์์ ๋ณ๋ฐ ๋ค๋ฅด์ง ์๊ฒ ์ง๋ง์๋ ... )
[01:25] <autowiz_> ์ฌํด๋ง ๋ฒํฐ๋ฉด ๋ ๋ฐ์ ๋ด๋
์ด ์จ๋ค๋ ์๊ฐ์ผ๋ก๋ค๊ฐ ใ
ใ
์ค์ ๋ก ์ฌํด๋ณด๋ค๋ ๋ด๋
์ด ์กฐ๊ธ์ ๋ ๋์์ง์ง ์์๊น ์ถ๊ธฐ๋ ํ๊ตฌ์.
[01:27] <ipeter_> autowiz_: ์ ๋ ๋ผ์์ฃผ์๋ฉด ์๋๋์?
[01:27] <autowiz_> ๋ค ํผํฐ๋๋ ๋ด๋
์ด ๋ ํ์กฑํ ํํด๊ฐ ๋์ค๊บผ์์ ใ
ใ
ใ
[01:27] <autowiz_> ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ฐฉ๋ฉด์ผ๋ก๋ค๊ฐ ใ
ใ
[01:27] <PotatoGim> ใ
ใ
ใ
์ฌํด๊ฐ ์ง๋๋ฉด ๋ด๋
์ ์ด์ง์ด...
[01:28] <autowiz_> ์ฌ๋~~
[01:28] <PotatoGim> ์ ์ ์ด๋๋๊ณ ๋ ๋จ์๊น๋ด...ใ
[01:28] <autowiz_> KT ์ ๋์ค๋ ๊ทธ Olleh ๊ฐ hello ๊ฑฐ๊พธ๋ก ๋๊ตฐ์
[01:30] <LevDino> ์๋
ํ์ธ์
[01:30] <autowiz_> ์๋
ํ์ธ์ ์์๋ณ ์๋ ์์์ผ์ ์งํฅํ๋ ....
[01:31] <autowiz_> ํฌํ
ํ ๋ ์ด ๊ณ์๋ ์ฐ๋ถํฌ ๋ฐฉ ์
๋๋ค. ใ
ใ
[01:36] <ipeter_> ํ. ํฌํ
ํ ๋ ๊ทธ ์ ๋ช
ํ ํฌํธ์์ ์ผํ์๋์?
[01:36] <ipeter_> ๋ชฉ๋ ํฌํธ๋ ์ ์ค์๋๊ฐ์?
[01:37] <autowiz_> ์ฌ๋๋ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๋งํ๋ค๋ณด๋ ๋์จ๊ฑฐ๊ตฌ์.
[01:38] <autowiz_> ํฌํธ๊ฐ ๋ญ์ง ๋ชฐ๋ผ์ ๊ตฌ๊ธ์์ "ํฌํธ" ๋ก ๊ฒ์ํด๋ด ใ
ใ
[01:40] <razGon_MINILA> ipeter, ๊ทธ๋ฌ๊ฒ ๋ง์ด์์.ใ
[01:40] <razGon_MINILA> ์ ๊ฐ ์ ์ ์ ๊ฐ๋ค๊ณ .ใ
[01:43] <autowiz_> ์ ์ ์ ์ ๋ ๋ญ๊ฐ์ ,, ์ค๋๋ฐ๋ผ ์ ์กฐ์ด๊ฐ ๋ง์ด๋ค๋ฆฌ๋
[01:43] <razGon_MINILA> ์๋ ์ ๊ณ ์ .ใ
[01:43] <autowiz_> ์ฃผ์ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ ์ด์ ๊ฐ ใ
ใ
ใ
[01:47] <razGon_MINILA> ์.ใ
.ใ
[02:09] <ipeter_> ๋๋ฌด ์ฌํ๋ค์ ๋ผ์ฆ๊ณค๋..ใ
[02:09] <ipeter_> ์ ์์ง์ด ์๋๋ด์.
[03:17] <razGon_MINILA> ipeter, ์ ๋ ๋ ์์ง ์์ด์..ใ
ใ
[03:45] <jun> ์๋
ํ์ธ์~ ์ค๋ซ๋ง์ ํ์ฌ์์ ์ ์ํฉ๋๋ค!!! ใ
ใ
ใ
[03:46] <jun> ์ฃผ๋ง ์ ๋ณด๋ด์
จ์ต๋๊น~??
[04:01] <HolyKnight> ํธ์ํ ์ถํ์ฌ ์ฌ๋ฌ๋ถ ์ฑ
์ ์ธํฐ๋ท์ผ๋ก๋ ์ ํต์ํฌ ์ํฅ์ด ์๋ค๋ฉด ์ ๋ชฉ์ ํ ๊ธ์๋ก ์ง๋ ๊ฑด ์ง์ฌ์ผ๋ก ์ ๊ณ ํด ์ฃผ์ญ์์ค ๊ฒ์ํ๊ธฐ ํ๋ญ๋๋ค ์์ค
[04:02] <samahui_WS> ใ
ใ
ํ๊ธ์๋ก ๋ ์ฑ
๊ฒ์์ ์ ๋ง ํ๋ค์ฃ ... ๋ณดํต ํ๊ธ์ ์ด์ ์
๋ ฅ์ ์ํ๋ ใ
ใ
[04:02] <samahui_WS> ์ ์ฌ ๋ง๋๊ฒ ๋์
จ๋์ง์? ์คํ์๋ ํ์ดํ
! ์
๋๋ค
[04:02] <HolyKnight> ใ
ใ
ใ
[04:10] <PotatoGim> ์์ฌ๋ฅผ ํ๊ณ ์ค๋ ์ฌ์ด์...
[04:11] <PotatoGim> ์์๋ณ ์๋ ์์์ผ์ ์งํฅํ๋ ์์ด์ฝ์ด...
[04:11] <PotatoGim> ipeter: ์ ๋... ํฌ์กฐ์ ์ ์์ธํ ์คํ ๋ฆฌ์ง ์
์ฒด์์ ์ผํ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค...ใ
[04:12] <PotatoGim> jun: ์๋
ํ์ธ์~! ์ฃผ๋ง์ด ๋ญ๊ฐ์?
[04:16] <jun> PotatoGim: ์ฃผ๋ง์.... ์... ์ฃผ๋ง์ด๋.... ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ ์ ์ํด์ผํ ๊น์..?
[04:16] <samahui_WS> ์ฃผ๋ง์.. ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊น ํ์์์ ์กด์ฌํ๋ ๋ฌด๋ ค ์ดํ์ ์ด ์ ์๋ ๋ ์
๋๋ค. (๋จ, ๊ฐ์กฑ์ด ํนํ ์์ด๊ฐ ์์ผ๋ฉด ์ฃผ๋ง ๋์ด๋์ ํฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ง๊ธฐ๋ ํฉ๋๋ค)
[04:18] <PotatoGim> ์ธ์์.. ์ดํ์ ์ฐ๋ค๊ตฌ์??
[04:18] <autowiz_> ์ฃผ๋ง์ ๋จ๋ค์ด ์ ์ถ๊ทผ์ํ๋ ์ฌ๋ฌด์ค์ด ์กฐ์ฉ~ ํด์ ํธํ๊ณ ์พ์ ํ๊ฒ ํ์ฌ์์ ์
๋ฌด๋ฅผ ๋ณผ ์ ์๋ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ์ ๋งํ๋๊ฒ ์๋๊น์
[04:19] <PotatoGim> ์.. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์ ์ดํ ์ฉ์ ์๋ ํํ ์ถ๊ทผ์ผ์ด๊ตฐ์.
[04:19] <autowiz_> ์ ๋ง ์น์ง๋์ ์ด๋ ๊ฒ๋ ๋ชป์ด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.
[04:19] <samahui_WS> ์ถ๊ทผ์ ํ์ง๋ง ์ ์ง ๋ ์ฐ์ฐํ๊ณ ํผ๊ณคํ ์ดํ์ด์ง์
[04:19] <autowiz_> ๋์ค ํ๋๋ ์ฃฝ์ด์ผ ๋๋๋ ์ธ์
[04:19] <samahui_WS> ์ด์ ์ฃฝ์ด์ผ ํ๋ค๋ฉด ์๋๋ฅผ ์ฃฝ์ฌ์ผ์ฃ
[04:19] <autowiz_> ๊ทธ๋ ์ง์ ์์ฃผ ์ ๋๋ง ๋ด๋ ์ค์ค ์ฐ๋ ์ธ๊ฒ ๋ง๋ค์ด๋ฒ๋ ค์ผ์ง์
[04:20] <autowiz_> ์ฒ ๋ฐ๋ผ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ค๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค. ... ๋ผ๊ณ ๋งํ๊ณ ์ถ์ด๋ ์์ง์ ๋๊ฐ ์๋๋ผ ใ
ใ
[04:20] <autowiz_> ๊ธฐ ์ถฉ์ ์ค์
๋๋ค ใ
ใ
ใ
[04:20] <samahui_WS> ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ๋ฌด์ด์ ๋น๋๋ค
[04:20] <autowiz_> ์ ์ ํธํฐ์ด ์์ด์ LG Vu:3 --> V10
[04:20] <samahui_WS> ์คํธ~
[04:21] <autowiz_> ํ๋ฉด ํผ์ง๋งํ๋ค์
[04:22] <samahui_WS> ๊ฒ๋
ธํธ5 ์ฐ๋ ์
์ฅ์์ .. ์ ํฐ๊ฑด ๋ฐ๋์ผ์ธ~ ์
๋๋ค
[04:22] <samahui_WS> ํฐ์ผ๋ก ์ฐ๋ ค๋ฉด ์ญ์ ์์ ์์ฅ ๋ค์ด์ค๋๊ฒ ์ข์์
[04:22] <samahui_WS> ๋ฌผ๋ก ๋ฉํฐ๋ก ์ด๊ฒ์ ๊ฒ ํ๋ ์ฌ๋์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ํ๋ฉด ํฐ๊ฒ ์ข๊ฒ ์ง๋ง์
[04:23] <samahui_WS> ๋ฉ๋ชจํ ๋ ์ฐ๋๊ฑฐ ์ด์ธ์๋ ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๋
ธํธ๋ถ ์ฐ๋๊ฒ ๋ฌ๊ณ ์ ์ ์ด์ ์ค ํฐ์ผ๋ก ๋ญ๋ผ๋ ๋ง์ง๋ผ๋ฉด ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ์ธ์์ผ ๋๋ ๊ฒฝ์ฐ๊ฐ ์๊ฒจ์ ์ํํ๋ค ์ถ์ด์
[04:24] <autowiz_> ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ง์ ์ ์์๋ฃ๋ ํด๋จผ์๋๋ก์ด๋ ๊ฐ ํ์ํฉ๋๋ค. ๊ทธ๋์ผ ์ด์ ์ค์ ๋ฌธ์๋ ๋์ ๋ณด๋ด์ฃผ๊ณ
[04:24] <samahui_WS> ํนํ! ์ ์ฒ๋ผ ์ํฌ๊ณ ์ด์ง๋ง์ผ๋ฉด... ํ์์ผ๋ก ์ํ๋๋๋ฆฌ๋ค๊ฐ ์๋ฐ๋ฆ ์ด์ด ์ค๋์ ์ ๋ฐํ๊ธฐ ์ผ์ ์
๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[04:24] <autowiz_> ์ง์ฒญ์๋ ๋์ ํด์ฃผ๊ณ ๋ฐฅ๋ ๋์ ํด์ฃผ๊ณ ์์ฅ๊ฐ๋ ๋์ ๋ถ๋ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ ์?
[04:24] <samahui_WS> ์ ๋ง ์ด์ ์ค ๋ฌธ์ ๋ต์ฅํด์ฃผ๋ ๋ดํ๋ ๋ง๋ค๊ณ ์ถ์ด์ง๋๋ค
[04:25] <ipeter_> ์.
[04:25] <samahui_WS> ์ฌ์ ํด๋จผ์ ํ๋ ๊ตฌํ์
์ ๋๋ํ๊ณ ๋ค๋์
์ผ ํ ์ํฉ์ธ๋ฐ์ ใ
ใ
[04:25] <autowiz_> ์์ ์
๋ ฅ์ด ๋๋ฆ ์ธ๋งํ๊ธด ํ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ ๋ค๋ง ์ฐจ์ ํผ์ ์์ด์ผ ํ๋ค๋
[04:25] <PotatoGim> ...๋์ ์ผํด์ฃผ๋...
[04:25] <ipeter_> ์ ์์ฆ ๋๋ผ๋๊ฒ...
[04:25] <ipeter_> ํ๊ต์์ ์ฐธ ์ด๊ฒ์ ๊ฒ ๋ง์ ์ข๋ค์.
[04:25] <PotatoGim> ์ฌ!
[04:25] <PotatoGim> ํ!
[04:25] <PotatoGim> ์!
[04:25] <ipeter_> ํด์ธ ๊ต์๋๋ค ๋งค๋ฌ ๋ช๋ฒ์ฉ ๋ถ์ผ ์๊ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฉฐ ์ธ๋ฏธ๋ ์ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ
[04:26] <ipeter_> ์ค๋๋ NVIDIA์์ ๋์ผ์ ๋ถ์์ ๊ณตํ๊ด์์์ ๊ฐ์ฐํ์๊ณ
[04:26] <samahui_WS> ipeter๋์ด ์ ์ ์ฌ์์๊ฒ ๋๋ฌ์์ธ ํ์ค์ ๋ฐ์๋๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์์ ๋ง์ ํ ๋จ ๊ตฌ์ถ์ผ๋ก ๋์ ๋ฌ๊ฒ ์๋๊ฐ ์ถ๊ตฐ์
[04:26] <PotatoGim> ํ.. ์๋น๋์...
[04:26] <samahui_WS> ์ฌ๋์ํ์ด ์ข๋ค๋!!!!
[04:26] <ipeter_> ์์งํ ํ๊ต๊ฐ ์ข๋ค์..
[04:26] <PotatoGim> ์๋ฆฌ ํ๋๋ง ํ์ฃผ์๋ฉด....ใ
ใ
[04:26] <ipeter_> ์ด๋ฐ ๋ฌธํ์ํ ๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด์ 6์ ์นผํด์..
[04:26] <ipeter_> ๊ธ์ฌ๋ ์ฅ๊ผฌ๋ฆฌ์ง๋ง..
[04:27] <ipeter_> ๊ฐ์ข
๋ฌธํ๊ฐ์ฐ์ด๋ผ๋ ์ง ์ด๋ฐ๊ฒ๋ค ์ ๋ง ์ข๋ค์.
[04:27] <ipeter_> samahui_WS: ๋ค. ํ์๋ค.. ์์งํ ์์ ํ์๋ค ๋ช ์์ด์.
[04:27] <PotatoGim> ์ถ์ ์ง์ด ๋์์ง๋๊ตฐ์...
[04:28] <autowiz_> ์ ๋ ์ฒ ์ปน์ฒ ์ปน ๋ฌด์์์ ํํ
[04:28] <ipeter_> ๋ฐฉ๊ธ ๊ณตํ๊ด ๊ฐ๋ค์๋๋ฐ ๋์ด ๋ง์ฃผ์น ์ฒ์๋ง ํด๋...๋ค๋๋ช
์ ๋๋ค์.
[04:28] <PotatoGim> ...์ถ์ ์ง์ด ์ข ๋จ์ด์ ธ๋ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋๋ค...ใ
[04:28] <ipeter_> ํ์ฅ์ค๊ฐ๋๋ง ๋์ด๋ฒ ํ์ธํ๊ณ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ๋ฉด ์ฒ ์ปน์ฒ ์ปน์ ๊ด์ฐฎ์๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์์.
[04:28] <autowiz_> ํ๊ธด ๋ญ ์ ๋ ๋ํ๊ต ํ๊ฒฌ๊ฐ ์์๋๋ ํ์๋ค ๋ง์ด ๋ดค์ต๋๋ค. ใ
ใ
[04:28] <ipeter_> ๊ต๋ด์์ ๊ทธ๋ด์ผ์ ์์ง๋ง, ์์ฃผ๋ง ์ํ๋ฉด๋๊ตฌ์.
[04:29] <samahui_WS> ์ ๋ํ ์ฐ๊ตฌ์์ ์ผํ ๋ ๋ง์ด ๊ฐ์ฃ ... ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ์ ... ํ๋ ๋์์... ์ฌ๊ธฐ ๊น์ง๋ง ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค
[04:29] <samahui_WS> ์ฅ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋ชธ์ธ์ง๋ผ
[04:29] <PotatoGim> "๋์์"์ ์
์ผํธ๊ฐ ๋น ์ก...
[04:29] <autowiz_> ๊ทธ๋ถ์ด ์์ดํ ์ธ์ค ์์ ...
[04:29] <ipeter_> samahui_WS: ๋ฏํฃ.
[04:30] <ipeter_> ์ ๋์
[04:30] <samahui_WS> ์์ดํ๋ ํ๋ฐฐ์
๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[04:30] <ipeter_> ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์ธ์ฐ์ด์
จ๊ตฌ๋..๊ทธ์๊ฐํ๋๋ฐ...
[04:30] <ipeter_> ์ ..์ฌ๋งํ๋.
[04:30] <samahui_WS> ํ๊ต์์ ๋์๊ฑด ๋ง์ง๋ง.. ์ ๊ฐ ๋์์ฃ
[04:30] <samahui_WS> ใ
ใ
[04:30] <ipeter_> ์๊ฐํ
์ข ์์ผ์ฃผ์ธ์.
[04:30] <samahui_WS> ์ ์ฃผ๋ณ์ฌ๋ค์ ๋ค ์์ง๊ฐ๊ฑฐ๋.. .์๊ฐ์ผ๋ฉด ๋ฌธ์ ์์ด์ ์๋ฉ๋๋ค !!!
[04:30] <ipeter_> ํ
[04:30] <ipeter_> ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
[04:30] <ipeter_> ๋ฏธ์์!!!
[04:30] <samahui_WS> ์๊ฐํ
์ ipeter๋์ด ์์ผ์ฃผ์
์ผ์ฃ
[04:30] <ipeter_> ์ฌ๋งํ๋ ๋ฏธ์์!!!!
[04:30] <samahui_WS> ๋ํ์๊ณผ ํํํ ๋ง๋จ!!!
[04:30] <ipeter_> ํํ
[04:30] <PotatoGim> ๊ฒฉํ๊ฒ ๊ณต๊ฐํฉ๋๋ค.
[04:30] <PotatoGim> ํํ
[04:31] <samahui_WS> ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.. ์ ๋ก ์ธ์ฒ ํ ๋๋๋ค
[04:31] <ipeter_> ์ ๋์ด๊ฐ 36์ธ๋ฐ์...ใ
[04:31] <ipeter_> ์ด์ํ๊ฒ ๊ณต๋ ๋์๊ด ํ์ ์ค ๋ถ๋ค์ ์ ๊ฐ ๊ฐ๋๋ง๋ค ์๊ธ์๊ธ ์์ด์ฃผ์๋ค์.
[04:31] <samahui_WS> ๊ณต๋! ๋ผ์์
[04:31] <ipeter_> ๊ณต๋๊ฐ ํ๊ต ์์ฃผ ์์ฃผ ์ธ์ง๊ณณ ๋ํธ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์ ์์ด์์.
[04:31] <ipeter_> ์ ๊ฐ ๊ฐ๋๊น ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ๊ณ์ ํ์ ์ง์๋ถ๋ค์ด ๋ค ์ณ๋ค๋ณด์๊ณ
[04:31] <ipeter_> ๋๋ฆฌ๋ฒ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๋๊น ํ๋ถ์ด ์์ด๊ฐ์ด ๋์ค์
์
[04:32] <ipeter_> "๋์๋๋ฆด๊น์?" ์ด๋์ฃผ์
จ๋ค๋..
[04:32] <ipeter_> ๊ทผ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ถ์ด ์ ์ผ ์์ ๋ถ์ด์ ๊ฒ ์ต๊ณ ์์ฃ .
[04:32] <autowiz_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/97qb75e0j0x6dmx/vu3%26v10.jpeg?dl=0
[04:33] <samahui_WS> ์ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ ๋์ด ๊ทธ ์ ํ์ธ๊ฐ์? ๋์ด๋ ๊ทธ๋๋ก๊ณ ๊ธธ์ด๋ง ๊ธธ์ญํด์ก๊ตฐ์
[04:33] <samahui_WS> ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ ๊ฐ๋๊ฐ ํผ์คํด ๋ณด์ด๋ค์
[04:33] <autowiz_> ๋์ด๋ ์กฐ~๊ธ ์ค์ด๋ค๊ณ ๊ธธ์ด๊ฐ ๊ธธ์ด์ก๋ค์. ์ผ์ชฝํฐ์ด ๋ค๋ฅธ ํฐ์ ๋นํ๋ฉด ๋ง์ด ๋ง์ด ๋์๊ฑฐ๊ฑฐ๋ ์ ใ
ใ
[04:34] <PotatoGim> ์ค.. ์ ๊ฒ V10์ด๊ตฐ์.
[04:34] <ipeter_> ๋๋ฐ ์ข๋ค์.
[04:35] <ipeter_> PotatoGim: ์์คํ
๊ด๋ฆฌํ์๋์?
[04:35] <ipeter_> ์ค์ฆ๋ V10์ผ๋ก ๋ฐ๊พธ์๊ฒ์?
[04:35] <PotatoGim> ์... ์ง๊ธ์...
[04:35] <ipeter_> ํ๋๋ค์.
[04:35] <PotatoGim> ์์ง๋์ด ๊ฒธ...
[04:35] <PotatoGim> ์์คํ
๊ฐ๋ฐ์ ๊ฒธ...
[04:35] <ipeter_> PotatoGim: ์ ๋ ์ฌ๊ท์ด์.
[04:35] <PotatoGim> ์๊ธ ๋๋ ๊ฒธ...
[04:35] <ipeter_> ๋๋ฏ๋๋ฏ ๋ฉ์ง์ ๋ถ์ด์
จ๊ตฐ์.
[04:35] <PotatoGim> ...ใ
ใ
[04:35] <ipeter_> ํ์... +_+/
[04:36] <ipeter_> ์ ์น๊ฐ๋ฐ๋ ํํธ์๊ณ ,
[04:36] <PotatoGim> ์น์ ์ ๋ชจ๋ฆ
๋๋ค...ใ
[04:36] <ipeter_> ์๋ฌผํ๋ ๊น์ด๊ฐ ์๊ณ
[04:36] <ipeter_> ๋ํ์์์๊ฒ ์ฐจ์ฌ์ ๊ฐ์ด์์ดํ๋
[04:36] <ipeter_> ์๊ธ๋๋์ด์๋๋ฐ.
[04:36] <ipeter_> ์ผํ
[04:36] <ipeter_> ใ
ใ
[04:36] <autowiz_> ํฌํ
ํ ๋ ์ ๋ ๋์ด๊ฐ ๋น์ทํ์
จ์์ฃ ๊ทธ์ฃ ?
[04:37] <PotatoGim> ...
[04:37] <ipeter_> ์ค์ฆ๋์ด๋ ์ ๋ ๋๊ฐ์ด์์.
[04:37] <autowiz_> ์ 46 ์ด๋๊น
[04:37] <ipeter_> ์ฅ?
[04:37] <PotatoGim> ...
[04:37] <ipeter_> 10์ด ํ๋์ด์
จ์ด์?
[04:37] <PotatoGim> ์ด๋ฐ...
[04:37] <autowiz_> ์?
[04:37] <ipeter_> 46์ด์๋ค๋!!!
[04:37] <autowiz_> ์คํ ์
๋๋ค. ใ
ใ
ใ
[04:37] <autowiz_> ์ด์ฌ๋๋ค์ด
[04:37] <ipeter_> ์ด๋์ ์คํ ํ๊ณ์ญ๋๊น.
[04:37] <ipeter_> 46!!!
[04:38] <ipeter_> ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
ใ
[04:38] <autowiz_> ์ง์ ์ค์๋ฉด ๋ฏผ์ฆ ๋ณด์ฌ ๋๋ฆฝ๋๋ค ใ
ใ
ํ๊ณ๋ก ์ ๋
์ด๋ ํ๋ผ ํ์์ฃ
[04:38] <PotatoGim> ์น๋ช
์ ์ธ ์คํ...ใ
[04:38] <ipeter_> ์ธ๊ฐ์ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ๋ด๋ฉด์ ๋ฌด์์์ ์ํด์ ์๊ธฐ์ ๋์ด๋ฅผ ๋๋ฌ๋ฒ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๋ง๊ฒ์ด์ฃ !!!
[04:38] <autowiz_> (์ผํํ ๊ทธ๋ฌ์ผ๋ฉด 16 ์ด๋ 26 ์ผ๋ก ๋๋ ๊ฒ ์ฃ ใ
ใ
)
[04:38] <ipeter_> 46์ด๋ผ๋...์ค์ด...ใ
ใ
ใ
[04:38] <ipeter_> ์ค๋์ ์ ๋
๋ถ๊ฐ๋ฅํด์.
[04:38] <ipeter_> ์ค๋์ ๊ณต์ฐ๋ณด๋ฌ๊ฐ์..
[04:38] <ipeter_> ใ
ใ
[04:39] <autowiz_> ์ฌ์๋ ?
[04:39] <ipeter_> ๋๋ฆ ์ฒ์ฃผ๊ต ์ ์๋ผ๊ณ , ์ฑ์๋ชจ์ํ๋๋ฐ
[04:39] <PotatoGim> ๊ณต์ฐ์ ์๊ณ ๋ก ํผ์ ๋ณผ ์๊ฐ ์์ง์..
[04:39] <autowiz_> ์ค๋ง ๋จ์๋ ? ํผํฐ๋ ๊ทธ์ชฝ? ์ทจํฅ ?
[04:39] <ipeter_> ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ ์ ์๋์ค์ ์ ํฌํ๊ต ์๋๊ต์๋ ๊ณ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์.
[04:39] <ipeter_> ๊ทธ๋ถ์ด ์ค๋ ๊ณต์ฐํ์
์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ฝ๋ค๋ฐ๋ค๊ณ ๊ฐ์ผํด์.
[04:40] <ipeter_> ๋จ์ 2๋ช
(์ ํฌํจ)+์ฌ์ํ๋ช
[04:40] <autowiz_> ๊ฒฝ์กฐ์ฌ๋ ์ฑ๊ฒจ์ผ์ง์ ใ
ใ
[04:40] <ipeter_> ์ด๋ ๊ฒ์.
[04:40] <ipeter_> ๋น..
[04:40] <autowiz_> ํฌํ
ํ ๋ ์ ํฌ๋ ์ธ์ ๋ง๋์?
[04:40] <ipeter_> ํฌํ
ํ ๋์ ๋์ด๊ฐ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๋์ธ์?
[04:41] <PotatoGim> ์ง์คํฌํ๊ฐ...
[04:41] <ipeter_> ๊ทธ๋์ ๋ ๊ทธ ์ฐ๋ถํฌ ํ์ฅ๋์ ์๋ณด์ด์๋ค์.
[04:41] <autowiz_> ์ด๊ฒ ์ ์ ๋ฒํผ ๋ค์ ์๋๊ฒ ๋ถํธํ์ ๋ ์๋ค์ .
[04:41] <PotatoGim> ์ ๋ ์ด๋ฆฝ๋๋ค...ใ
ใ
[04:41] <PotatoGim> ์ ์ ์์ฒด๊ฐ ๋ค์ ์๋ค๋.. ์ ๊ธฐํ๋ค์.
[04:41] <autowiz_> ์ด? ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋ฉด ์ ๊ฐ ์ถ์ฒ๋๋ฆด๊ณณ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ๊ธฐ๋ ์ฝ๊ฒ ๋๋ฐ์
[04:41] <autowiz_> ์ํ๋ฉด ์ ๋ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์ ๊ฐ์ด ๋ง๋์ค์ง๋ ใ
ใ
[04:42] <ipeter_> ์ ์ด๋ฆฐ๋ถ ์ข์์.
[04:42] <ipeter_> ๋ง๋๋ฉด ์๊ธฐ์ข ๋นจ์๋ค์ด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.
[04:44] <PotatoGim> ์ถ์ฒ์ ์ฃผ์ ๋ค๋! ์ด๋ฅ๋๊น! ใ
ใ
[04:44] <PotatoGim> ์๊ธฐ๊ฐ... ์ ๋จ์์๋ค์...ใ
[04:47] <ipeter_> ์ด๋ฒ์ฃผ ํ ์์ผ๋ถํฐ ํ๋ก ๊ต์ก๋ฐ์์.
[04:47] <ipeter_> ์ฌ์ง์ ๊ต์ก ์ ์ฒญํ๋๋ฐ...๊ดํ ์ ์ฒญํ๋ ์ถ๊ธฐ๋ํ๊ตฌ์.
[04:48] <PotatoGim> ์ค.. ํ๋ก! ๋ง๋ก๋ง ๋ค์ด๋ดค์ง ์ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋ ๋
์์ด๋ค๋ณด๋ ๊ถ๊ธํ๋ค์.
[04:49] <ipeter_> ์ด์ฌํ ๋ฐฐ์์...์๋์ฒ ์ ๋ ์ํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.
[04:49] <ipeter_> ์ ๋ ์ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋๋ฐ๋ค, ์์ง์ ์๊ฒฝํด์์.
[04:53] <PotatoGim> ํผํฐ๋์ด ์น์ ํ ๊ฐ๋ฅด์นจ์ ์ฃผ์๋ฆฌ๋ผ ์ฒ ์ฉ๊ฐ์ด ๋ฏฟ์ผ๋ฉฐ...
[04:58] <ipeter_> ํธํก
[04:58] <ipeter_> ใ
[06:03] <autowiz_> ์ ~ ํฌ ํ
ํ ๋
[06:40] <PotatoGim> ๋ค!
[06:41] <autowiz_> ์ ๋ง๋ก ์คํ ์
๋๋ค.
[06:42] <ipeter_> ์๋ ์ค์ฆ๋ ์์ผ ์์ง๋ ๋ง์์ ์์ดํ์ธ์.
[06:42] <ipeter_> ๋นตํฐ์ง๋ค์.
[06:42] <ipeter_> ใ
ใ
ใ
[06:42] <ipeter_> 36 ๋ง์ผ์ญ๋๋ค.
[06:42] <ipeter_> ใ
ใ
ใ
[06:45] <PotatoGim> ์...
[06:47] <PotatoGim> ์ ๋ ๋ค๋ฒ๋ค๋ฒ ์์ฌํ์ง ์์์ต๋๋ค!
[06:54] <autowiz_> ์์ฐํ ๋ง์๋๋ฆฌ๋ฉด ์คํ๊ฐ ์๋์์ต๋๋ค.
[06:55] <autowiz_> ์๊น๋ ์ง๊ธ๋ ๋๋ค ์ค์ ์
๋๋ค. ๋๋ถ์ ์๊ฒจ๋๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์ํ
[06:57] <PotatoGim> ...
[07:11] <autowiz_> ๊ทธ์ ์ ๋ญ๊ฐ์ ์ฝ๊ฒ ๋ฏฟ์ง ๋ชปํ๊ฒ ๋ค๋ ๋ป์ธ๊ฐ์? ใ
ใ
[07:21] <LevDino> ์์์ผ์ด๋ผ ๊ทธ๋ฐ์ง
[07:21] <LevDino> ์์๋ณ์ด ใธ
[07:21] <LevDino> ๋จผ๊ฐ ์๊ฐ์ ์์ฒญ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ๋๋ฐ ํ๊ฒ ๋ณ๋ก์๋ ๋ฏํ ใ
ใ
[07:22] <autowiz_> ๊ตฌ๊ธ ์ฒซํ์ด์ง๊ฐ ๋ฐ๊ผ๋ค์ . ์กฐ์ง๋ถ (๋ถ๋ฆฐ ์ฐฝ์์์ด๋๊ฐ) ํ์ 200์ฃผ๋
์ด๋๋๋ค.
[07:30] <ipeter_> .... 46์ธ
[07:30] <ipeter_> ...(...)
[07:32] <autowiz_> ์ฌ์ค ์๊น ์ฌ๊ธฐ์ ์ด์ผ๊ธฐ ํ๋์ฌ๋์ 10๋
๋ฏธ๋์์ ์จ๊ฑฐ์ . ๊น์ง ๋๋ผ์
จ์ด์? ใ
ใ
[07:48] <PotatoGim> ์ ์ฒด์ฑ ๋ถ๋ฆฌ...
[07:49] <autowiz_> ๋ฏธ์ณ๋ ๋ฐ๊ณ ์์ต๋๋ค.
[08:10] <PotatoGim> ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์.. autowiz๋์ด ๋ถํน์ ๋๊ธฐ์
จ๋ค๋ก...
[08:16] <autowiz_> ์ ํธํฐ ์ด์ดํฐ์ made in cambodia ๊ตฐ์
[08:16] <autowiz_> ํ๊ตญ์๋ ์บ๋ณด๋์ ์ฌ๋ ๊ฝค ๋ค์ด์ ์๋๊ฑธ๋ก ์๋๋ฐ
[08:18] <samahui_WS> ์คํ ์์ฆ ํ๋
[08:18] <samahui_WS> 46์ธ์
จ๊ตฐ์
[08:18] <samahui_WS> ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ด ๋๊ฑฐ์ฃ ?
[08:18] <autowiz_> ์์ด๊ณ ์ฌ๋งํํ๋ ๊ฐ์ง ์ธ์ด๋ฌ์ญ๋๊น
[08:19] <samahui_WS> ์ญ์ฑ ๋ํ
ํ๋ ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ด ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ์? ใ
ใ
[08:19] <samahui_WS> ์ ์ฝ์์ด ์์ด์ ์ ์ ์ ๋
๋จน์ผ๋ฌ ๋๊ฒจ์ค๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค
[08:19] <samahui_WS> ์ค๋๋ ์ผ๊ฐ ์์
ํ ํ์ดํ
! ์
๋๋ค ใ
ใ
[08:19] <autowiz_> ์๋ ์๋ ์๋๋๋ค. ์ ๋ฉด์์ด ์ํ๊ฐ ์ ์ข์ง๋ ์์๋ 40๋๋ ์๋๋๋ค ์์ง
[08:19] <autowiz_> ๋ง์ ๋
ํ์ธ์~~
[08:19] <samahui_WS> ๊ทธ๋ ์ตธ 40์ ์๋์ฃ ๊ณง 50์ด๋...
[08:19] <autowiz_> ์ผ์ ์ค๋ ์ ๋
์ ๋ญ ๋จน์๊น๋...
[08:19] <samahui_WS> ใ
ใ
[08:19] <samahui_WS> ๊ทธ๋ฐ ๋์ค์๋ต์
[08:20] <samahui_WS> ๋๊ฒจ์ค๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค
[08:20] <autowiz_> ๋ง์๊ฒ ๋์๊ณ ์ค์ธ์~
[08:42] <ipeter_> gngn
[08:42] <ipeter_> ํํ
[08:42] <ipeter_> 46์ธ.... ๊ทธ๋ถ....์ค์ฆํ๋....
[08:42] <ipeter_> ....(....)
[09:26] <jun> ์ค๋ ํ๋ฃจ์ข
์ผ ๋ฐ๋ปค๋ค์;;;; ์ผ๊ทผํ ๋ผ๊ตฌ ํ๋๋ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ง์ธ๋ผ๊ณ ... ํ์ํ์๊ตฌ ๋๋ฆฌ๋ค์;;;
[09:26] <jun> ์ฉ.. ์ ๊ฐ์ ๊ดด๋กญํ๋ฌ ๊ฐ๋ณด๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.
[09:27] <jun> autowiz_: ์ค์ฆํ๋ ํก ๋๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค~
[09:27] <jun> ๋ค๋ค ์๊ณ ํ์ธ์~
[09:27] <autowiz_> ๋น๋น ์๊ณ
[09:28] <apt14> [์ง๋ฌธ]: ์ฐ๋ถํฌ๋ฅผ ์ง์ํ๋ vpn ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ด ์๋ค๋๊ฒ์ ์๊ฒ ๋๋ฐ ํน์ ์ถ์ฒํ๋ vpnํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ด ์์ผ์๋ฉด ์๋ ค์ฃผ์๋ฉด ๊ฐ์ฌํ๊ฒ ์ต๋๋ค.
[09:39] <autowiz_> ์ ์ฒด ๊ตฌ์ฑ์ ์ด๋ป๊ฑธ ๋ฐ๋ผ์๋๊ฑด๊ฐ์?
[09:39] <autowiz_> vpn ์๋ฒ ์์ฒด๊ตฌ์ถ + ํด๋ผ์ด์ธํธ ์ด์ฉ ์ด์ ๊ฐ์?
[09:40] <autowiz_> 1:1 vpn ์ฐ๊ฒฐ ์ธ๊ฐ์
[09:40] <autowiz_> ์๋๋ฉด ์์ฉ(ํน์ ํ์ฌ) VPN ์๋ฒ์ฌ๊ฒฝ์์ ์ฐ๋ถํฌ๋ก vpn ํด๋ผ์ด์ธํธ๋ง ํ์ค๋ ค๋๊ฑด๊ฐ์
[09:40] <apt14> ๊ทธ๋ฅ ํด์ธ ์ฌ์ดํธ์ ์ฐ๊ฒฐํ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๋ณด์์ฉ์
๋๋ค
[09:40] <apt14> ์์ฉ์ด๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์
[09:41] <apt14> open vpn๊ฐ์ ์ฐ๋ถํฌ์ ์ค์นํ ์ ์๋ ํ๋ก๊ทธ๋จ์ด๋ฉด ์ข์ต๋๋ค
[09:42] <autowiz_> gui ์ด๋ฉด ์ฐ๋ถ์ฟ ๊ธฐ๋ณธ network-manager ์ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ์๋ vpn ๊ธฐ๋ฅ์ ์ฐ์๋ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ์ด ์๊ตฌ์
[09:47] <apt14> ์ฐจ๋จ๋ ์ฌ์ดํธ์ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ๊ธฐ ์ํ ๊ธธ์ ๋ฉ๊ตฐ์.
[09:47] <apt14> ๋คํธ์ํฌ ๋ฉ๋์ ธ์ ๋ค์ด๊ฐ ์ฃผ์๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์๋ด์ผ ํ๋๊ฑฐ๊ตฐ์
[09:48] <autowiz_> ๊ฐ๋จํ ๋ช๋ช ํ์ด์ง ๋ณด์๋๊ฑฐ๋ฉด
[09:49] <autowiz_> ์น ํ๋ก์ ์๋น์ค(๊ณต์ง) ๋ ์๊ตฌ์
[09:49] <autowiz_> ์ฐ๋ถํฌ ์ฌ์ฉํ์๋ฉด nmcli ์ฌ์ฉํ๋๊ฒ ๊ทธ๋๋ง ์ ค ๊ฐ๋จํ ๊ฑฐ ๊ฐ์ต๋๋ค.
[09:51] <apt14> ํฐ๋ฏธ๋์ 'sudo apt-get install nmcli' ์น๋ฉด ๋ ๊ฒ ๊ฐ๊ตฐ์. ์์ง xp๋ฅผ ์ฌ์ฉํ๋ ์ ๋ก์จ๋ ์ฐ๋ถํฌ๊ฐ ๋ง์ง๋ง ํฌ๋ง์ด๋ผ์ ์์ง ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋๊ฒ ๋ง๋ค์
[09:53] <autowiz_> ์๋์ฐ์ฆ์ฉ vpn - client ๋ ์ฒ์์ ์ค์น๊ฐ ๊น๋ค๋กญ๊ธด ํ์ง๋ง ์ธ๋ง ํ ์ ๋ ์์ต๋๋ค.
[09:54] <apt14> ์ฐ๋ถํฌ 15.04์๋ nmcli์ด ์ง์ ์๋๋์? ํจํค์ง๊ฐ ์๋ค๊ณ ๋์ค๋๋ฐ... ์๋์ผ๋ก ํด์ผ๋๋ ๋ณด๊ตฐ์
[09:54] <autowiz_> ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๋ช
๋ ค์ด๋ง ์ณ๋ณด์ธ์
[09:54] <autowiz_> ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์ผ๋ก ์ค์น๋์ด ์์ ๊ฐ๋ฅ์ฑ์ด ํฝ๋๋ค.
[09:55] <apt14> ์ ๋จ๋๊ตฐ์! ๊ทธ๋ผ ์ค์ ์ ํ๋๋ฒ์ ๊ฒ์ํด๋ด์ผ ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์
[12:59] <samahui_WS> ๋ฃฐ๋ฃจ ๋๋ผ~ ์ผ๊ทผ์ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์~
[13:00] <samahui_WS> ์ ์ ์ ์ ์ค์ด ์ ๊ธฐ ์ด๋๊ฐ๋ก ๋ ์๊ฐ๋ ๋๋์ด๋ค์.
[13:49] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3551113
[14:21] <samahui_WS> ๋
ธ๋๋ฐฉ๊ฐ์ ์ด์ฌํ ํฌ๋ฒ๋ฆฐ์ ๋๋๋ ธ๋ค๋ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์ ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์
[14:21] <samahui_WS> ์์ฆ์ ๊ณจํ์น๋ฌ๊ฐ์ ๋์ด์ค์ท์ ๋จ๋ฐํด์ผํ์ฃ
[14:22] <HolyKnight> zz
[14:28] <ipeter> ํ
[14:28] <ipeter> ๊ณต์ฐ๋ณด๊ณ ์ด์ ์์ต๋๋ค.
[14:49] <autowiz_> ๋๋๋ฅ
[14:54] <bluedusk> ์๋
[14:54] <bluedusk> ๋ ์ง์ ๊ฐ๊บผ
[14:54] <bluedusk> ๋ผ์ ๋ชป๋ชฐ์์ค์
[14:54] <bluedusk> ๋์...
[15:52] <autowiz_> we are the world ~
[18:14] <Work^Seony> ์๋
ํ์ธ์
[20:01] <DarkCircle> ์๋
ํ์ธ์ ~(~_~)~
[20:02] <DarkCircle> ์ถ์์ ์ผ์ฐ๋ค ์ฃผ๋ฌด์๋๋ฏ
[20:11] <Work^Seony> ใ
ใ
๊ทธ๋ฐ๊ฐ๋ณด๊ตฐ์
[21:27] <DarkCircle> ํ ๋ฒ์จ 6์ ๋ฐ -_-;
[22:00] <ipeter> ํด
[22:00] <ipeter> ์ผ์ด๋ฌ์ด์
[22:00] <ipeter> ์ป๊ณ ๊ฐ๊ป์
[22:22] <autowiz_> ์๋
ํ์ธ์~
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.643009
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DarkCircle",
"HolyKnight",
"LevDino",
"PotatoGim",
"Work^Seony",
"apt14",
"autowiz_",
"bluedusk",
"ipeter",
"ipeter_",
"jun",
"razGon_MINILA",
"samahui_WS"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-ko.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
}
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-release
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[19:58] <cyphermox> hi, could an archive admin please review fwupdate in xenial queue?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.648258
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"cyphermox"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-release.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-release"
}
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:22] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.648845
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"dholbach"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-motu.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
}
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