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[07:47] <artemz> http://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2015-11-11_v_rossii_nachnutsya_prodazhi_ubuntusmartfona
[07:47] <artemz> ура товарищи
[09:14] <andrex> linxon: привет шпион
[11:14] <tagezi> утра всем
[11:21] <SergeyIT> убра
[12:06] <Praxa> всем привет!
[12:06] <Praxa> вопрос по кде, не могу включить вращение куба, требует opengl, но никак не включается
[12:07] <Praxa> может не там ковыряю?
[12:08] <Praxa> #viktorina
[13:03] <karen_> Люди, кто может помочь с cron?
[13:05] <tagezi> справка?
[13:06] <tagezi> а, кто.. не, не знаю
[13:09] <karen_> Глупый вопрос - мои сообщения видно???
[13:10] <SergeyIT> не видно
[13:10] <tagezi> неа, вообще не видно
[13:11] <karen_> Наконецто!!! Помогите пожалуйста разобраться с cron - как правильно и где вводить команду на запуск, допустим audacious в 16:15 каждый день?
[13:12] <tagezi> karen_: http://help.ubuntu.ru/wiki/cron
[13:12] <karen_> 15 16 * * * /usr/bin/audacious -? так правильно?
[13:12] <tagezi> https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
[13:13] <tagezi> у арча тоже не плохая вики https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cron
[13:14] <tagezi> но я думаю тебе первых двух ссылок должно быть достаточно
[13:14] <karen_> Спасибо товарищ!
[13:17] <andrex> минуты часы число месяц день недели пользователь полный путь к комманде 0 22 * * 1-5 echo "запуск в 10 вечера кадый будний день к примеру)"
[13:27] <SergeyIT> и не забыть пустую строку в конце
[13:29] <karen_> Ничего не понимаю - не получается! Указываю все вроде верно, но он не запускается (проигрыватель). Строку не забываю, от sudo пробывал - не идет. А ведь я хочу более сложную вещь сделать с помощью cron/
[13:34] <karen_> короче, делаю так: sudo crontab -e (запускается редактор nano) пишу допустим 33 16 * * * /usr/bin/audacious и нечего не происходит! Может я не правильно что-то пишу?
[14:14] <buriedalive> karen_ сделай скрипт sh, который стартанёт audacious, а не /usr/bin/audacious
[14:15] <tagezi> угу, запихнуть его в винду и из подвинды в виртуалке запустить виртуалку с линуксом, чтобы от туда по ssh запустить в родительчной системе скрипт запускающий audacious.. гениально )
[14:15] <buriedalive> и chmod +x на sh не забудь
[14:27] <karen_> куда правильно сохранять задания?
[14:30] <SergeyIT> может так 33 16 * * * DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/audacious
[14:30] <buriedalive> как куда?
[14:31] <buriedalive> в cron наверно
[15:08] <andrex> вслед раз кто прийдет кину в него этой какой) https://asciinema.org/a/b9ooc53t1e2swzihchur8ymxp
[15:09] <SmOkE_RU> Спасибо
[15:09] <SmOkE_RU> Пригодится =)
[15:09] <SmOkE_RU> Как скачать ?
[15:09] <SmOkE_RU> Видео это ?
[15:09] <andrex> а ты уверен что видео это?
[15:09] <andrex> мышкой выделяеш и копируеш)
[15:09] <SmOkE_RU> о_О
[15:10] <SmOkE_RU> Шо это за магия =)
[16:12] <R4nd0om1z3r> вечер добрый
[18:03] <dima811010> Добрый вечер. Подскажите пожалуйста по созданию архива. Создаю его командой
[18:03] <dima811010> tar cfz /work/Documents/Project/EagleCAD.tar.gz /work/Documents/Project/EagleCAD
[18:03] <dima811010> После чего появляется архив, в который содержит все папки полного пути, вопрос как их
[18:03] <dima811010> убрать при архивации.
[18:09] <AleksU> а если сначала cd /work/Documents/Project ?
[18:13] <andrex> cd foo && tar -cvvzf foo.tar.gz ./
[19:24] <Riyan102> 00
[19:24] <Riyan102> кто приютил макросы с грызуна х7 на убунту ?
[19:29] <Riyan102> msg nickserv identify NuG34dJSDFW
[19:29] <Riyan102> 00
[19:29] <Riyan102> не понятно пишешь ли ты или нет
[19:29] <Riyan102> в глобалке
[19:38] <UNIm95> !ask|Riyan102:
[19:38] <ubuntuhelp> Riyan102:: Не спрашивайте, можно ли спросить, «есть ли живые», «кто-нибудь использовал» и т.п. Просто спрашивайте. Если кто-нибудь знает — Вам ответят. Если никто не отвечает — значит, возможно, никто не знает, или все спят.
[19:39] <UNIm95> У меня вообще мыша трофейная. Скоммуниздил с конференции мелкософта =)
[19:41] <tagezi> мне никогда не нравились мышки мелкомягких
[19:41] <tagezi> они какието мелкие и мягкие )
[19:41] <UNIm95> tagezi: еще и пищат.
[19:48] <llorephie> Блин. Хоть здесь поною. Почему вот двухфакторная авторизация это хорошо лишь до того момента, пока не стырят телефон? А SIM-карту, как выяснилось, МТС любезно решил посчитать безымянной несмотря на весьма грубых трёх заявлений о смене владе
[19:50] <llorephie> Теперь одна половина аккаунтов требуют ключа для входа, вторая - СМС-подтверждения =_= Теперь до нового года долбиться везде и всюду, доступы возвращать... Говорили мне не параноить =__=
[19:57] <Sergey_IT> llorephie, начни новую жизнь
[19:57] <llorephie> Кстати, если кому вдруг интересно - в Thunderbird аддоне Firetray наконец починили закрытие в системный лоток =_= А то Segfault, бла-бла-бла... Фиксить 4 месяца - конечно забавно, учитывая что аддон используют не так мало людей...
[19:58] <llorephie> Sergey_IT: мысль, конечно, хорошая, но домены-то куда девать
[19:58] <tagezi> некоторые ошибки фиксят годами
[19:58] <tagezi> СПО такое СПО, разраб хочет фиксит, не хочет не фиксит
[20:00] <Sergey_IT> как тагези ;)
[20:00] <llorephie> Да ну... Сейчас уже не так всё и плохо. Последние 3 года, по крайней мере.
[20:01] <tagezi> ты багзилу не смотрел.. большинство проектов вообще исправляет только треть ошибок
[20:01] <tagezi> на остальное забивают
[20:01] <Sergey_IT> а некоторые закрывают просто
[20:01] <tagezi> а некоторые проекты вообще только делают вид что что-то правят
[20:03] <llorephie> Сейчас оно криво, но хоть работает. В '11 ещё году не решался даже пищать ставить бубну народу. Сейчас уже не так страшно
[20:04] <Sergey_IT> в 11 все работало и в 08 тоже
[20:04] <llorephie> (ставлю, правда, арч... Ну не будет о грустном). Как там, в 16.04, концепт от чеха приняли? Или по старым наброскам UI продолжат делать? А то как-то выпал из событий последних
[20:04] <tagezi> угу, а теперь вообще бешиные глюки
[20:05] <tagezi> сегодня с утра 6 гигов свапа и всё память забило за мгновение.. я даже не понял что
[20:06] <llorephie> Sergey_IT: может и работало, но foomatic-db разросся нынче, да и в Wine можно смело посылать все Win32 (ну... большинство, что там люди пользуют).
[20:06] <llorephie> tagezi: о_О
[20:06] <tagezi> офигеть... кернел паники, сжерание памяти... я такое с начала 2000 не помню.. а у тут на тебе, убунта позволяет вспомнить молодость
[20:08] * llorephie забился подальше в угол со своим арчем и отсутствием опыта как такового :D
[20:08] <Sergey_IT> llorephie, вайн не нужен
[20:09] <llorephie> Sergey_IT: скажи это любителям игрушек, угу.
[20:10] <Sergey_IT> так в вин играть надо
[20:10] <llorephie> вин в госы не поставишь не имея лицензии
[20:10] <tagezi> такчики под вайн с картой амд всёравно не идут, так что вайн не нужен )
[20:11] * tagezi упарился с шаблонами (
[20:11] <Sergey_IT> llorephie, хочешь поставить - купи
[20:12] <tagezi> вообще, в последнее время появилась тенденция всё ломать... надо выгнать нафиг всех китайцев и индусов из СПО
[20:12] <llorephie> Sergey_IT: не хочу, зачем мне?)
[20:12] <llorephie> tagezi: а кто писать код будет?
[20:12] <Riyan102> "русские"
[20:12] <Riyan102> для США же тоже "русские" пишут ось
[20:13] <tagezi> сказочник
[20:13] <tagezi> чото русские баги в ЛО вобще никто не фиксит... видимо все руские не используют русскую локаль
[20:13] <llorephie> о_О
[20:13] <Sergey_IT> я когда подрабатывал в 90-х - писал, в основном, для запада
[20:14] <tagezi> угу, я тоже пишу для запада ))
[20:14] <tagezi> или для востока?
[20:14] * tagezi пошёл за компасом )
[20:25] <Riyan102> сказки - сказания
[20:39] <Riyan102> го в дотку
[20:43] <Riyan102> в терминале есть команда чтоб через какое-то Н времени он начал ту или иную кнопку, а даже комбинацию. Или же байтник писать нужно ?
[21:24] <tagezi> блин, второй раз сегодня уже.. просто выжирает всю память разом и всё
[21:55] <bosyi> привет. тут есть кто то кто испрользует гибридную графику интел-амд ?
[21:57] <tagezi> !ask
[21:57] <ubuntuhelp> Не спрашивайте, можно ли спросить, «есть ли живые», «кто-нибудь использовал» и т.п. Просто спрашивайте. Если кто-нибудь знает — Вам ответят. Если никто не отвечает — значит, возможно, никто не знает, или все спят.
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2015-11-12-#launchpad-dev
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[17:50] <timrc> So this is interesting.. https://api.launchpad.net/1.0/functools32 returns 404 and some data :)
[18:05] <cjwatson> that's a little exotic
[18:05] <cjwatson> oh, I see, that's actually the stringified exception
[18:07] <cjwatson> so it's perhaps best considered as a not-found page, just ugly because it's api.
[18:08] <cjwatson> it would be a little clearer if it included the exception name as well as the value
[18:08] <cjwatson> then it would be "NotFound: Object: ..."
[18:16] <timrc> cjwatson: Ah that makes sense.
[18:24] <cjwatson> timrc: I can't immediately find exactly where that's handled, so feel free to file a bug if you want
[18:26] <timrc> cjwatson: Sure.
[18:27] <cjwatson> (not, I think, hugely important - returning an explanatory message body with 404 is perfectly OK, it's just that in this case it could stand to be just a little more explanatory)
[18:30] <timrc> cjwatson: I don't think it's hugely important either.
[18:31] <cjwatson> though I'm quite sure figuring out how to fix it would be educational
[18:31] <timrc> Haven't logged into explicitly to file a LP bug in a long while :)
[18:31] <timrc> in*
[18:34] <timrc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/607754
[18:34] <mup> Bug #607754: api 404 has weird content <api> <lp-foundations> <Launchpad itself:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/607754>
[18:34] <timrc> That looks to be the problem, so no need to re-file.
[18:40] <cjwatson> indeed, thanks
[19:53] <blr> morning
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-il
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[16:17] <who-me> ערב רב לכם
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-it
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[08:58] <glpiana> ola
[09:43] <Guest57740> Buongiorno a tutti. Ho un pc in dual boot con ubuntu 15.10, voglio formattare la partizione di ubuntu e installare la 14.04 LTS . Ho creato una liveUSB con il creatore di dischi di ubuntu ma se provo a riavviare il pc mi si riavvia normalmente accedendo a Ubuntu 15.10. Qualcuno saprebbe indicarmi come fare?0
[09:45] <Carlin0> Guest57740, come l'hai creata la chiavetta ?
[09:45] <Carlin0> ah .. scusa non avevo letto bene
[09:46] <Carlin0> Guest57740, hai settato il boot dal bios ?
[09:46] <Guest57740> no, in effetti
[09:47] <Guest57740> come faccio?
[09:47] <ExPBoy> Guest57740, come hai installato il 15.10?
[09:47] <Carlin0> non tutti i bios sono uguali , entri nel bios e cerchi nella sezione boot
[09:47] <Guest57740> aggiornando
[09:47] <ExPBoy> ?
[09:48] <ExPBoy> quindi avevu già la versione precedente?
[09:48] <ExPBoy> avevi
[09:48] <Guest57740> si
[09:48] <ExPBoy> e come l'hai installata?
[09:48] <Guest57740> sono anni che uso ubuntu
[09:49] <ExPBoy> eh e non sai settare il bios per il boot usb?
[09:49] <Carlin0> Guest57740, sempre che il tuo pc supporti il boot da usb ovviamente
[09:49] <ExPBoy> per quello volevo sapere come ha installato
[09:49] <ExPBoy> ma non lo dice
[09:50] <Carlin0> è timido
[09:50] <Guest57740> il problema che adesso dalla versione 15.04 e ancor peggio con la 15.10 il computer si impalla e noto che anche se ho pochi programmi aperti mi occupa tutta la ram. Siccome non riesco a lavorare voglio provare con una LTS e vedere se non ho problemi
[09:50] <ExPBoy> Guest57740, ti è stato detto come fare
[09:50] <Guest57740> ho installato anni fa con una liveUSB, è un'operazione che non ho fatto più di due volte nella vita
[09:52] <Guest57740> ok setterò il bios e farò ripartire la macchina da usb
[09:52] <Guest57740> adesso voglio farvi una domanda
[09:53] <ExPBoy> Guest57740, mica sei obbligato
[09:53] <Guest57740> riscontrate problemi con la versione 15.10 ? Il mio pc con firefox, o libreoffice si blocca, la schermata diventa grigia, poi ritorna bianca , è praticamente difficile lavorarci. riscontrate problemi?
[09:54] <Guest57740> obbligato a fare cosa ExPBoy
[09:54] <ExPBoy> a settare il bios ecc
[09:54] <Carlin0> Guest57740, di che pc stiamo parlando ?
[09:54] <ExPBoy> Guest57740, una curiosità ecco appunto
[09:55] <ExPBoy> Guest57740, siamo in un canale di supporto quindi niente privato anche perchè vedo solo che ci provi ma ho disabilitato
[09:55] <Guest57740> i5 con 8G di ram
[09:55] <Carlin0> Guest57740, che cpu quanta ram e che scheda video
[09:56] <Carlin0> bhe direi che come requisiti ci sei dentro
[09:57] <Guest57740> la macchina è anche abbastanza nuova, il problema è che non sto riuscendo a lavorare per i continui blocchi
[09:57] <Guest57740> adesso voglio chiedervi, voi riscontrate problemi? Avete idea di come ripristinare le cose e mantenere la versione 15.10 oppure mi consigliate di passare alla 14.04LTS
[09:58] <Carlin0> si però scusa se ci lavori l'avresti dovuto sapere da te che è meglio usare una versione + stabile (LTS)
[09:59] <Guest57740> onestamente uso ubunto dalla versione 9 e aggiorno sempre ogni 6 mesi, mai avuto questi problemi
[10:00] <Carlin0> sei stato fortunato diciamo
[10:00] <Guest57740> diciamo
[10:00] <Guest57740> tu che versione usi?
[10:00] <Carlin0> le nuove release appena state rilasciate spesso hanno qualche problemino
[10:00] <Carlin0> che poi magari viene risolto
[10:01] <Guest57740> certo
[10:01] <Carlin0> Guest57740, io : 1° non lavoro col pc ,2° non uso ubuntu
[10:01] <Guest57740> ascolta secondo te è meglio formattare oppure fare l'avanzamento di versione
[10:01] <Guest57740> posso chiederti che cosa usi?
[10:01] <Carlin0> formatta e installa la lts
[10:01] <Carlin0> debian
[10:02] <Carlin0> (ora mi picchieranno)
[10:02] <Guest57740> non io
[10:04] <Guest57740> secondo te quando ci sarà la nuova LTS ad aprile prossimo l'aggiornamento si fa o si aspetta finchè la 14.04LTS non è più supportata
[10:04] <akis24> Guest57740: reinstalla da zero e usa la 14.04.3 LTS supportata fino al 2019 e crea la usb da winz non usare creatore dischi ha un bug ..
[10:04] <akis24> !winusb | Guest57740
[10:04] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'winusb'
[10:04] <akis24> !usbwin | Guest57740
[10:04] <ubot-it> Guest57740: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[10:06] <akis24> Guest57740: all'avvio del pc entra nel bios e alla voce " boot " imposta come prima periferica di avvio la usb
[10:08] <Guest57740> grazie akis24
[10:09] <akis24> di nulla
[10:09] <Guest57740> dimmi per favore quando sarà necessario passare alla successiva versione LTS?
[10:10] <akis24> Guest57740: la versione 16.04 LTS sara' rilasciata aprile 2016 poi eventualmente avanzerai di versione da LTS alla nuova LTS
[10:12] <akis24> Guest57740: comunque non è necessario ma opzionale visto che la 14.04.3 attuale è supportata fino al 2019
[11:00] <Uzzi> esiste un whowto per bumblee con ubuntu 15.10
[11:00] <Uzzi> ?
[11:00] <akis24> !nvidia | Uzzi
[11:00] <ubot-it> Uzzi: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Video/Nvidia
[12:25] <checco> ciao a tutti
[12:27] <checco> avrei un problema,,,,vorrei ripristinare ubnut , a seguito di modifica partizione in quanto avevo avut un problema con l hd
[12:27] <Carlin0> che modifica checco ?
[12:27] <krabador> che hai fatto
[12:27] <checco> ridimensionato la partizione
[12:27] <ExPBoy> aia
[12:27] <checco> non riuscivo a fare piu il boot,
[12:28] <Carlin0> basta che ripristini il grub
[12:28] <krabador> !grub
[12:28] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[12:28] <checco> e allora tendando in tutti i modi, ho modificato le partizioni
[12:28] <checco> devo aver cancellato anche il grub, penso,
[12:29] <ExPBoy> checco, a questo punto reinstalla
[12:29] <Carlin0> ma va
[12:29] <Carlin0> ripristina il grub e sei a posto
[12:30] <checco> vi posso postare, se mi date il comando, lo schema delle partizioni, cosi magari vi mostro la situazione
[12:30] <checco> _
[12:31] <ExPBoy> !paste
[12:31] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[12:31] <ExPBoy> !image
[12:31] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[12:34] <checco> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13238089/ in sda3 avevo ubuntu e quindi un sacco di documenti che non posso cancellare
[12:35] <checco> in sda2 ce windows, anche se lo odio,ma vorrei tenerlo ancora un mesetto, vorrei evitare di perdere i dati ubuntu
[12:35] <Carlin0> checco, hai uefi ?
[12:36] <checco> cioe-
[12:36] <Carlin0> !uefi
[12:36] <ubot-it> UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:36] <checco> non riesco a fare punt di domanda scusate
[12:37] <checco> ho un bios normale,,
[12:37] <Carlin0> e allora segui la guida per il ripristino del grub
[12:37] <Carlin0> !grub
[12:37] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[12:37] <checco> perfetto, speriamo funzioni,,,,
[12:38] <checco> vi faro- sapere
[12:38] <checco> grazie intanto
[12:38] <ExPBoy> certo
[12:38] <krabador> checco, alle 13:28, hai letto?
[12:38] <ExPBoy> persi 10 minuti?
[12:41] <checco> raga sto leggendo
[12:41] <checco> ma penso di non aver capito
[12:41] <ExPBoy> ?
[12:42] <checco> il grub si installa sulla partizione dove risiede il sistema operativo_
[12:42] <Carlin0> no
[12:42] <Carlin0> il grub lo installi sul MBR
[12:43] <Carlin0> ma prima devi montare la partizione in cui risiede ....
[12:43] <Carlin0> insomma basta che segui la guida
[13:11] <checco> raga ce lho fatta, il grub e installato, ma la partizione ubuntu non e disponibile, all avvio, solo winzozz
[13:12] <checco> ripeto, avevo modificato la partizione,la dimensione stessa, non e che adesso ubuntu non riesco piu a renderlo bootabile_
[13:17] <krabador> checco, carica la sessione live, attacca cavo lan o se funziona la wireless entra qui
[13:17] <krabador> apri gpartted
[13:17] <krabador> fa screenshot
[13:17] <krabador> !image | checco
[13:17] <ubot-it> checco: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[13:18] <krabador> maneggiare le partizioni , se si tiene al proprio sistema, non si fa per tentativi ed errori
[13:18] <checco> kabradr, sono in live, perfetto
[13:18] <krabador> !chi | checco
[13:18] <ubot-it> checco: se stai parlando con qualcuno in particolare, per rendere più leggibile il canale ti consiglio di inserire il suo nickname in quello che dici (puoi usare il completamento premendo il tasto tab)
[13:19] <checco> #ubuntu-it: kabrador perfetto
[13:19] <krabador> non credo proprio
[13:19] <krabador> checco, "puoi usare il completamento premendo il tasto tab" ...
[13:20] <checco> krabador: ok
[13:23] <checco> https://imgur.com/FMMKPqJ eccolo
[13:24] <checco> krabador: eccolo
[13:25] <krabador> com'era la situazione precedente?
[13:25] <checco> uguale, solo che e uscito un punto esclamativo in piu ! krabador
[13:26] <krabador> checco, hai detto di aver maneggiato con le partizioni
[13:26] <krabador> qual'era la situazione precedente?
[13:27] <krabador> checco, sicuro di aver seguito correttamente la procedura di ripristino di grub?
[13:27] <checco> aaa, caito, avevo solo ubuntu, e la partizione attuale di ubuntu, fu stata modificata, spostato file, casini ecc ecc krabador
[13:28] <krabador> checco, software-properties-gtk, metti le spunte a multiverse universe, la togli a sources, e cd rom , chiudi , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:28] <checco> si eseguita da terminale,,,,, perfettamente,,, ho cambiato qualche cosa perche la partizione ubuntu e su sda3 remix_tj
[13:28] <krabador> "casini ecc ecc"
[13:29] <krabador> checco, va montata la partizione ubuntu ,durante la guida, e devi dirgli appunto /dev/sda3 , l'hai fatto correttamente?
[13:29] <checco> krabador: ho la disgrafia, scusate ogni tanto inverto e sbaglio lettere
[13:30] <checco> si si, montata krabador
[13:30] <checco> grub parte correttamente, solo che mi da solo windows nella selezione
[13:32] <checco> krabador: cosa e quel software/propietares ecc ecc_
[13:32] <krabador> checco, quando hai intenzione di farlo?
[13:32] <krabador> non ho tutto il giorno
[13:33] <checco> cioe_non ho capito, cosa devo fare krabador
[13:33] <checco> hheheh
[13:33] <krabador> magari digitarlo nel terminale?
[13:33] <checco> a ok
[13:35] <checco> sto eseguendo
[13:35] <checco> fatto krabador
[13:37] <krabador> eh
[15:00] <nick10> ciao io ho un problema di driver. Non riesco a utilizzare un adattatore wifi (dlink wireless g usb adapter DWL-G122) potreste aiutarmi?
[15:01] <nick10> ah dimenticavo tutto questo su ubuntu 10.04 lts
[15:01] <krabador> nick10, stai scrivendo da ubuntu, collegato col cavo?
[15:01] <krabador> nick10, 10.04 è andata
[15:02] <gigirock> nick10, apri il terminale , togli la chiavetta aspetti 3 secondi , la inserisci e poi ci pastebinni il risultato di "dmesg"
[15:02] <krabador> passa a 14.04.3 o 15.10
[15:02] <nick10> si lo so che è obsoleta però è l'unica che gira bene su quel pc
[15:02] <gigirock> nick10, modello pc ?
[15:02] <nick10> ...visto che è molto vecchio
[15:02] <nick10> vuoi sapere ilmodello della chiavetta o del pc ?
[15:03] <krabador> nick10, ad aprile del 2010 non ne andavano di chiavette che adesso vanno alla grande
[15:03] <krabador> nick10, come la tua
[15:03] <gigirock> nick10, apri il terminale , togli la chiavetta aspetti 3 secondi , la inserisci e poi ci pastebinni il risultato di "dmesg"
[15:04] <krabador> gigirock, un attimo
[15:04] <krabador> nick10, per favore, elenca le caratteristiche del pc
[15:05] <nick10> gigirock che vuoi dire con "pastebinni"?
[15:06] <krabador> nick10, rispondi
[15:06] <gigirock> !paste | nick10
[15:06] <ubot-it> nick10: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:27] <Corsaro> ciao a tutti ,alle prese finalmente con LInux ,da totale neofita chiedo 2 cose
[16:28] <Corsaro> come si fà a vedere qual'è la versione installata
[16:28] <Carlin0> Corsaro, lsb_release -a
[16:28] <Corsaro> e se e possibile utilizzare il lettore floppy -disk?
[16:28] <krabador> Corsaro, alle prese di un linux che non hai installato tu?
[16:28] <krabador> Corsaro, è possibile
[16:29] <Corsaro> non ,un amico
[16:30] <krabador> apri il terminale e manda il comando che ti ha segnalato Carlin0
[16:31] <Corsaro> bene
[16:31] <krabador> Corsaro, e ti connetti dal GARR con una macchina con il floppy?
[16:31] <Corsaro> ..e per vedere se funziona il floppy disk?
[16:31] <krabador> Corsaro, potresti anche comunicare il risultato del comando
[16:31] <krabador> prima di fare altre domande
[16:32] <Corsaro> 9.04
[16:32] <Carlin0> ai ai ai
[16:32] <Corsaro> dolore???
[16:32] <Carlin0> ottima release ma fuori supporto
[16:32] <Corsaro> iniziamo bene
[16:32] <Corsaro> però....una cortesia .........
[16:33] <Corsaro> ho appena detto cheson................ neofita
[16:33] <krabador> Corsaro, un neofita che viene a chiedere di un sistema di aprile del 2009
[16:33] <Corsaro> quindi....... piano con gli ......splendidi
[16:33] <Corsaro> ecco vedi Kabrador
[16:33] <krabador> Corsaro, diciamo che puzza di presa per il culo
[16:34] <Corsaro> te devi essere d iquelli ..
[16:34] <Corsaro> ??????????
[16:34] <krabador> !chat | Corsaro
[16:34] <ubot-it> Corsaro: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:34] <Corsaro> non capisco
[16:35] <Corsaro> quindi ...
[16:35] <Corsaro> mi hanno installato una versione inutile???
[16:35] <krabador> Corsaro, non viene fornito supporto a versioni di ubuntu non supportate
[16:35] <Corsaro> se sapessi
[16:35] <Carlin0> è troppo vecchia Corsaro
[16:35] <Corsaro> quali sono ,forse no nstarei neanche a chiedertelo
[16:36] <Carlin0> reinstalla usando la 14.04 o la 15.10
[16:36] <Corsaro> anche se.... vedo che Carlino è più gentile
[16:36] <Carlin0> !download
[16:36] <ubot-it> download is http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ o http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ o http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download
[16:36] <krabador> Corsaro, infatti non lo hai chiesto
[16:36] <krabador> e stai prendendo per il culo
[16:36] <Corsaro> ma io forse sono allora nel posto sbagliato
[16:36] <Corsaro> visto che............ parli di prese per............
[16:37] <Carlin0> Corsaro, ma prima di tutto : dicci un paio di cose sul pc , tipo cpu e ram
[16:37] <krabador> Corsaro, scaricati con la veloce rete del garr , ubuntu 14.04 o 15.10
[16:37] <Corsaro> ecco ,grazie
[16:38] <Carlin0> perchè se ha una versione così vecchia sarà vecchiotto anche il pc
[16:38] <Corsaro> ho capito che ho una versione vecchia
[16:38] <krabador> Corsaro, www.ubuntu-it.org non funziona, nella rete del garr?
[16:38] <krabador> puoi confermare, andando li, quali sono le versioni attualmente in supporto
[16:38] <Corsaro> si è un pentium III
[16:39] <krabador> se il pc è troppo vecchio, e l'esigenza del floppy sicuramente è un indice
[16:39] <Corsaro> con disco da 80
[16:39] <krabador> ubuntu non puo' andare
[16:39] <krabador> Corsaro, scordati ubuntu allora
[16:39] <Carlin0> ecco
[16:39] <krabador> ed anche lubuntu , la derivata piu' leggera, per hardware datato
[16:39] <krabador> è fortemente ipotecata
[16:39] <Carlin0> lubuntu ma inizia a pregare prima
[16:40] <Corsaro> ..ho capito che il pc...è vecchio
[16:40] <Corsaro> però......... questa 9.04
[16:40] <Corsaro> gira
[16:40] <krabador> Corsaro, ,"alle prese finalmente con LInux" --->hai fatto invecchiara il p3
[16:40] <krabador> Corsaro, ma un sistema deve girare, o deve essere sicuro?
[16:40] <Carlin0> Corsaro, anche sul mio 486 gira win 95
[16:41] <Corsaro> e quindi ?
[16:41] <krabador> Corsaro, parliamoci chiaro, che ci devi fare con questo pentium 3 ?
[16:41] <krabador> tra l'altro non hai neanche detto quanta ram hai
[16:42] <Corsaro> ho capito che ....bisognerà trovar un altro pc
[16:42] <Carlin0> mi sa di si
[16:42] <Carlin0> sarebbe la soluzione ottimale
[16:42] <krabador> Corsaro, rispondi alle domande
[16:42] <krabador> Corsaro, senza informazioni, non si possono dare informazioni
[16:42] <Corsaro> capisco ..
[16:42] <Tommy> ciao a tutti
[16:43] <krabador> !ciao | Corsaro
[16:43] <ubot-it> Corsaro: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[16:43] <Carlin0> Corsaro, quanta ram ?
[16:43] <Corsaro> ma mi sembri un pò nervosetto esgarbato
[16:43] <Guest97085> ho problemi con errori gpg no publick key
[16:43] <Corsaro> sopratutto con chi............
[16:43] <Corsaro> non è abbastanza pratico
[16:43] <Corsaro> e nel mio caso ..per niente
[16:43] <Carlin0> Guest97085, posta l'errore nel pastebin
[16:43] <krabador> Corsaro, rispondere alle domande, non vuole esperienza
[16:43] <Carlin0> !paste
[16:43] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:47] <Carlin0> Tommy90, che ubuntu usi ?
[16:47] <Tommy90> 15.04
[16:48] <krabador> Tommy90, se hai aggiunto ppa con chiave,e non hai inserito la chiave, è normale
[16:48] <Tommy90> ma come lo incollo devo avere l account ubuntu one
[16:48] <krabador> Tommy90, sudo apt-get update
[16:48] <krabador> Tommy90, vai nel sito pastebin
[16:48] <krabador> incolli tutto
[16:48] <krabador> clicchi paste
[16:48] <krabador> incolli poi qui il link
[16:48] <Carlin0> non serve nessun account
[16:48] <Tommy90> Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
[16:48] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.canonical.com vivid InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[16:48] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://security.ubuntu.com vivid-security InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[16:48] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[16:48] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[16:48] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-proposed InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976E
[16:50] <Tommy90> ma se lo incollo non si imballa Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
[16:50] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.canonical.com vivid InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[16:50] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://security.ubuntu.com vivid-security InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[16:50] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[16:50] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-updates InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5 NO_PUBKEY 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[16:50] <Tommy90> W: Errore GPG: http://archive.ubuntu.com vivid-proposed InRelease: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perché la chiave pubblica non è disponibile: NO_PUBKEY 40976E
[16:54] <akis24> Tommy90: allora ????? ti è stato detto di usare pastebin non incollare in canale
[16:55] <akis24> !paste | Tommy90
[16:55] <ubot-it> Tommy90: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:55] <Tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/BZDUhJ64RlaSEzpR5gcY
[16:55] <Tommy90> così va bene?
[16:57] <akis24> si
[16:57] <Tommy90> ho provato molte guide
[16:59] <krabador> Tommy90, apri terminale
[16:59] <krabador> Tommy90, software-properties-gtk
[17:00] <krabador> menu a tendina "scarica da" selezioni altro, italia, ed il server con garr
[17:00] <krabador> chiudi corrrettamente
[17:00] <krabador> sudo apt-get update
[17:00] <krabador> Tommy90, e pastebin del risultato
[17:00] <enzo> ciao posso chiedere aiuto?
[17:00] <krabador> !chiedi | Guest52997
[17:00] <ubot-it> Guest52997: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[17:02] <Guest52997> ubot-it:grazie..ho 2 server su stella lan di cui uno in virtualbox, rcome faccio ad accedere da remoto a quello virtuale, visto a quello fisico riesco?
[17:02] <ubot-it> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:02] <Tommy90> che vuol dire italia,ed il server con garr ??
[17:02] <krabador> Tommy90, segui la procedura, e lo vedi da solo
[17:02] <Tommy90> ho selezionato test server migliore
[17:03] <krabador> Tommy90, non puoi fare come segnalato?
[17:03] <krabador> te l'ha detto il dottore?
[17:05] <Guest52997> ho 2 server su stessa lan di cui uno in virtualbox,come faccio ad accedere da remoto a quello in virtualbox con bridge, visto a quello fisico riesco?
[17:06] <akis24> !chat | Guest52997
[17:06] <ubot-it> Guest52997: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:07] <Guest52997> ubot-it: sono server ubuntu 14.04
[17:07] <ubot-it> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[17:08] <Tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/WIBQHaqStGRdgFR7aVSo https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/0V3EkEZRziQPuimejSSq
[17:11] <Tommy90> ma era quello garr
[17:11] <lcdatti> Buonaserea
[17:12] <lcdatti> Buonasera
[17:13] <akis24> Tommy90: prova a dare questo dal terminale sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32 e dopo sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 e metti risultato sempre su paste
[17:14] <Tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/17tXaSwwQSqktsaH9Efe
[17:14] <krabador> Tommy90, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:15] <krabador> ls -la /var/lib/apt/lists | pastebinit
[17:15] <Tommy90> fatto
[17:15] <krabador> incolla il link
[17:16] <krabador> ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit
[17:16] <Tommy90> di cosa di questi 2 comandi?
[17:16] <krabador> Tommy90, allora
[17:16] <krabador> Tommy90, un link , forse lo trascuri , è un indirizzo web, aka url, solo uno dei 2
[17:16] <krabador> lo restituisce
[17:17] <Tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/9lmOVbWHTkCpwir19LYR
[17:17] <krabador> Tommy90, stai prendendo in giro?
[17:17] <krabador> ls -la /var/lib/apt/lists | pastebinit
[17:17] <Tommy90> non ho capito
[17:18] <krabador> incolla il link risultante da questo
[17:18] <Tommy90> questi 2 codici ho messo e questo e quello che mi ha dato
[17:18] <Tommy90> quale link stai parlando?
[17:18] <krabador> Tommy90, almeno, l'italiano, riesci a capirlo ?
[17:19] <Tommy90> no forse 6 tu che parli un altra lingua
[17:19] <krabador> no Tommy90 questo canale ha il log
[17:19] <krabador> fa leggere a chiunque quello che ti è stato detto
[17:19] <krabador> chiunque sappia l'italiano, sia chiaro
[17:20] <akis24> tommy90@tommy90-P53SJ:~$ ls -la /var/lib/apt/lists | pastebinit
[17:20] <akis24> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13240054/
[17:20] <krabador> e se capisci l'italiano, allora non leggi, o non sai proprio cosa sia un link
[17:20] <krabador> nonostante ti sia stato spiegato
[17:21] <Tommy90> io il codice lho dato
[17:21] <akis24> Tommy90: era dentro il pastebin insieme al resto incolla solo i link qui ..
[17:22] <akis24> Tommy90: questo intendeva krabador http://paste.ubuntu.com/13240054/
[17:22] <krabador> akis24, perdi tempo
[17:23] <doom_> salve uso ubuntu 14.04 con gnome desktop , il mio problema e questo: dopo aver disattivato il login con password , rendendo cosi l'accesso automatico,visto che già ho la password all'avvio di ubuntu avendo cifrato l'intero disco,ora se voglio disattivare l'accesso automatico,facendo tutta la procedura reinserendo la password,se esco dalla sessione oppure riavvio il sistema,mi trovo con la schermata di login davanti ma comunque cliccandoci sopra entro ugua
[17:23] <doom_> lmente senza password sia nella sessione di gnome desktop che uso tuttora,e sia nella sessione con unity desktop che non uso mai
[17:23] <krabador> Tommy90, ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit
[17:24] <krabador> Tommy90, stessa cosa, vediamo se hai capito
[17:25] <Tommy90> krabador non è perchè 6 un nerd ho capito vai a prendere una boccata d aria che secondo me nn riesci a risolvere il mio problema
[17:25] <Tommy90> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/JSD0lO35QGczxfNnClh4
[17:26] <akis24> doom_: hai reimpostato da " account utente " ?
[17:26] <doom_> akis si
[17:43] <doom_> akis24: si ho reimpostato da account utente
[17:46] <akis24> doom_: non saprei dirti altro al momento non vorrei dipendesse da aver criptato il disco ..
[17:47] <doom_> akis24
[17:47] <doom_> ha sempre funziopnato
[17:48] <krabador> doom_, prova a creare un'altro utente , con proprietà di amminstrazione
[17:49] <doom_> akis 24: da account utente nonme lo fa fare
[17:51] <doom_> akis24: mi da questo errore http://s21.postimg.org/myqb5xv9j/Schermata_del_2015_11_07_23_50_01.png
[17:51] <akis24> doom_: prova terminale segui qui http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Sicurezza/GestionePassword/Recupero
[17:55] <doom_> akis24:grazie ora ci provo
[17:55] <akis24> prego doom_
[18:19] <Guest45853> scusate la mia ignoranza in materia come posso rinstallare ubuntu con già ubuntu come sistema operativo presente??
[18:19] <krabador> Guest45853, si
[18:19] <Guest45853> si ma per favore potresti cercare di spiegarmi come fare??
[18:19] <krabador> Guest45853, se installi nella stessa partizione , senza formattare, mantieni i vecchi dati utente
[18:20] <krabador> Guest45853, spiega cosa ti serve
[18:20] <krabador> ed in base a quello
[18:20] <krabador> ti si profila la soluzione piu' indicata.
[18:21] <Guest45853> allora attualmente ho installato ubuntu macè uscito fuori un errore nel sistema ecc e non funziona molto bene,come posso rinstallare ubuntu? cioè come si fà fisicamnte quali tasti
[18:22] <krabador> buono
[18:22] <krabador> lascia stare i tasti
[18:22] <krabador> che ubuntu hai ?
[18:22] <Guest45853> tasti ineso coem procedere
[18:22] <Guest45853> 14.o
[18:23] <krabador> 14.04 ?
[18:23] <Guest45853> si scusa
[18:23] <Guest45853> ora vorrei installare 15,1
[18:23] <krabador> Guest45853, allora, se ce l'hai , puoi prendere il dvd o la pendrive che hai usato per installare far partire la procedura di installazione
[18:23] <krabador> indicando la vecchia installazione
[18:23] <Guest45853> che stò scaricando dal vostro sito
[18:24] <Guest45853> immagine iso
[18:24] <krabador> e non settando la partizione per essere formattata
[18:24] <krabador> oppure puoi fare la stessa cosa con 15.10
[18:24] <krabador> di cui devi fare il dvd, o la pendrive
[18:24] <krabador> !iso | Guest45853
[18:24] <ubot-it> Guest45853: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[18:24] <Guest45853> il fatto è che non ho ne penne ne dvd
[18:24] <krabador> Guest45853, allora procurati o uno o l'altro
[18:25] <krabador> Guest45853, oppure cerchi, se lo segnali, di correggere l'errore che dici che ti da
[18:25] <krabador> Guest45853, per ripristinare/reinstallare serve il supporto , o cd o dvd
[18:25] <Guest45853> ascolta se io ora che ho scariato l'immagine iso e la copio sulla chiavetta va bene??
[18:25] <krabador> o dvd o usb, scusa.
[18:26] <krabador> ma ce l'hai o non ce l'hai , penne? Hai appena detto <Guest45853> il fatto è che non ho ne penne ne dvd
[18:26] <Guest45853> krabador ..avrai capito che non sono molto pratico
[18:26] <krabador> Guest45853, si , ma non serve pratica per sapere se si ha una penna o no
[18:27] <Guest45853> non ho inteso come già memorizzato la penna fisicamnte ce l0ho
[18:27] <krabador> Guest45853, se hai una penna usb che puoi usare per questo scopo
[18:27] <krabador> segui la guida
[18:27] <krabador> !usbwin | Guest45853
[18:27] <ubot-it> Guest45853: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[18:29] <Guest45853> ok ora provo
[18:30] <Guest45853> aspetta mi ero dimenticato di dire che ho solo ubuntu installato e non anche la partizione windows
[18:32] <krabador> Guest45853, bene
[18:32] <krabador> allora
[18:32] <krabador> scarichi la iso
[18:32] <krabador> inserisci la pendrive nel sistema
[18:32] <krabador> apri il terminale
[18:33] <krabador> digiti sudo fdisk -l , premi invio
[18:33] <krabador> in quel modo vedi come il sistema te l'ha chiamata
[18:33] <Guest45853> ascolta il mio problema è non sò dove digitare i comandi non l'ho mai fatto
[18:33] <krabador> il terminale
[18:34] <krabador> ctrl alt t
[18:34] <krabador> ed appare magicamente
[18:35] <akis24> tutti insieme .. i tasti
[18:38] <Guest45853> mi è apparsa la maschera cosa devo scriverci??
[18:39] <krabador> Guest45853, quello che ti ho appena detto
[18:39] <akis24> [19:33:04] <krabador> digiti sudo fdisk -l , premi invio
[18:41] <Guest45853> scusa l'ultima lettera dopo il trattino è i o l??
[18:41] <krabador> elle
[18:42] <krabador> Guest45853, puoi copiare ed incollare
[18:42] <krabador> non ti poni il problema
[18:44] <Guest45853> mi chiede una pass
[18:44] <krabador> che devi sapere, se il sistema l'hai installato tu
[18:44] <krabador> te l'ha chiesta in fase di installazion
[18:49] <Guest45853> non mi riconosce non mi ricordo
[18:50] <Guest45853> scusa della ua pazzienza
[18:50] <krabador> nessun problema, senza password, se non te la ricordi, la vedo dura.
[18:51] <Guest45853> ascolta io ho scaricato ubuntu 15,1 ( iso ) come posso aprirla e afre installare il programma?
[18:51] <krabador> come ti sto dicendo
[18:51] <krabador> non è un programma
[18:51] <krabador> ma il sistema operativo
[18:52] <krabador> Guest45853, non hai installato tu, il sistema che stai usando, vero?
[18:52] <krabador> o fai la penna, o il dvd
[18:52] <krabador> !iso | Guest45853
[18:52] <ubot-it> Guest45853: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[18:52] <Guest45853> se con alt+ctrl+t non ci riesco cè un altra possibilità?
[18:53] <krabador> Guest45853, non hai la password, quando avvii ubuntu?
[18:53] <krabador> Guest45853, non hai installato tu, il sistema che stai usando, vero?
[18:54] <Guest45853> no è un veccchio computer che mi ha lasciato mio figlio
[18:54] <Guest45853> e quando lo avvio non mi chiede la pass
[18:54] <krabador> Guest45853, allora puoi procurarti un dvd, e masterizzarlo, non ti chiederà nessuna password. seguendo la guida che ti ho indicato
[18:57] <Guest45853> l'ultima cosa e poi ti lascio e grazie della pazienza
[18:57] <krabador> Guest45853, hai detto che usi 14.04, giusto?
[18:58] <Guest45853> alloara se io copio l'immagine iso dal pc alla usb è uguale??
[18:58] <Guest45853> si uso 14.04
[18:58] <krabador> Guest45853, se fosse uguale, con qualche punto interrogativo in meno
[18:58] <krabador> non te l'avrei già detto?
[18:59] <Guest45853> ti capisco ma per me è arabo..
[18:59] <krabador> puoi provare a scaricare http://launchpad.net/unetbootin/trunk/613/+download/unetbootin-linux-613.bin
[18:59] <krabador> apri il terminale
[19:00] <krabador> cd ~/Scaricati
[19:00] <krabador> invio
[19:02] <Guest45853> ascolta..un ultima cosa..se io formatto il pc ( poi dimmi come fare per paicere
[19:02] <krabador> apri il gestore files , vai dove hai scaricato il file, tasto destro su di lui , che si chiama unetbootin-linux-613.bin, proprietà, permessi, e fai il check di "esecuzione"
[19:02] <Guest45853> ed inizio tutto da capo come si fà??
[19:02] <krabador> Guest45853, senza supporto , o dvd o pendrive
[19:03] <krabador> non puoi fare niente
[19:03] <Guest45853> ok
[19:03] <krabador> una volta fatto, lo fai partire in avvio
[19:03] <krabador> andando a modificare nel bios della macchina, l'ordine delle periferiche d'avvio
[19:04] <krabador> quando parte, selezioni l'installazione
[19:04] <krabador> fai andare avanti
[19:04] <krabador> quando ti chiede dove installare selezioni la voce "altro"
[19:05] <krabador> selezioni la partizione della precedente installazione, ti assicuri che l'opzione di formattazione NON sia selezionata,vai avanti
[19:05] <krabador> quando ti chiede di creare un utente, creane uno con un nome diverso dal precedente
[19:05] <krabador> vai avanti , ed una volta finito, avrai /home/vecchioutente , dove vecchioutente sarà il nome del precedente utente usato dal precedente sistema
[19:05] <krabador> con tutti i dati
[19:06] <Guest45853> ascolata momentaneamnte ci rinuncio proverò dopo cena
[19:06] <krabador> ed /home/utente
[19:06] <Guest45853> Grazie della collaborazione sei stao gentilissimo sono io che sono refrattario perchè non sono pratico
[19:06] <krabador> !installazione | Guest45853
[19:06] <ubot-it> Guest45853: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[19:06] <krabador> per maggiori informazioni vedi quei
[19:07] <krabador> qui
[19:07] <Guest45853> ok grazie
[19:07] <krabador> in bocca al lupo
[19:07] <krabador> Guest45853, contatta il figliolo per la password
[19:07] <krabador> ti risolve una bella grana.
[22:51] <recchia> scusate ho bisogno di una mano.Ho istallato ubuntu sulla virtualbox ma dopo aver inserito la password di accesso non mi appaiono le icone di comando
[22:53] <di> ! virtualbox
[22:53] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox
[22:53] <di> cia recchia
[22:53] <di> e vaffanculo
[22:53] <di> ! ubuntu
[22:53] <ubot-it> Ubuntu è un sistema operativo libero e gratuito basato su GNU/Linux. Vedi http://www.ubuntu-it.org/
[22:54] <di> ! imgur
[22:54] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'imgur'
[22:54] <recchia> porco dio rispondete
[22:54] <di> questo forum non tollera tali atteggiamenti di prepotenza e scurrili
[22:55] <di> ! virtualbox
[22:55] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-es
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[02:01] <yoelis> hola alguien me puede ayudar
[02:02] <yoelis> no me reinicia ni se apaga la laptop
[02:02] <yoelis> se queda como suspendida
[02:07] <luisymaria> probaste con shutdown -h now ????
[02:07] <luisymaria> yoelis:
[02:08] <luisymaria> bueno, en realidad debes poner ese comando son sudo antes
[02:08] <luisymaria> sudo shutdown -h now
[02:08] <Xavier89> o sudo halt tambien
[02:10] <luisymaria> Xavier89: gracias
[02:11] <luisymaria> Xavier89: parece que yoelis se fue
[02:11] <Xavier89> y para reiniciar reboot
[02:11] <luisymaria> yo me voy...
[02:13] <yoelis> no estoy aqui lo que estaba leyendo el canal ingles
[02:13] <yoelis> ok voy a hacerlo a ver ya les digo si
[02:15] <yoelis> nada
[02:15] <yoelis> se queda con el logo de ubuntu en la pantalla y no apaga
[09:28] <noseasasi> Buenasss...
[09:37] <noseasasi> ;)
[15:37] <mefista> Closing imap connection
[15:37] <mefista> 121212y2y1i2uyilknfdkdsnv,.smnvfkds.b<, nfkjldb.<,nndkfb.n,dfkbln
[15:37] <mefista> yes
[15:37] <mefista> yes
[15:52] <mefista> rda-mac: estas en terminal mac
[15:53] <rda-mac> mefista a que se debe la pregunta ?
[15:53] <mefista> tengo un problema con el vmail en terminal mac
[15:53] <rda-mac> este es un canal de ubuntu
[15:53] <mefista> ya
[15:54] <mefista> por eso preguntaba
[15:54] <mefista> pero la configuracion es mas igual
[15:58] <rda-mac> No Conozco esa app ... nunca la he usado ... hay muchas referencias con ese nombre, a cual de todas te refieres ?
[15:58] <mefista> vmail correo por terminal
[15:59] <mefista> o sabes de un canal mac
[16:00] <mefista> tengo k corregir el imap
[16:02] <rda-mac> existen ports de mutt y alpine
[16:05] <rda-mac> http://brewformulas.org/Alpine
[16:05] <rda-mac> http://brewformulas.org/Mutt
[16:37] <mefista> rda-mac: muy bien tio con alpine no tuve problemas
[16:37] <mefista> voy a seguir intentando vmail
[17:18] <habitat> buen dia compañeros ¿alguien puede ayudarme?
[17:39] <GridCube> !alguien
[18:14] <mefista> habitat: en k se te puede ayudar
[18:19] <habitat> ¿como saber que controladores me hacen falta por instalar? ]¡de antemano gracias!
[19:18] <mefista_> s
[19:19] <Pupuser> hello?
[19:19] <Pupuser> hola?
[19:19] <mimecar> puedes preguntar directamente Pupuser si la duda tiene relación con Ubuntu
[19:20] <Josee> ahhh
[19:20] <Josee> mimecar, un gusto
[19:20] <Josee> gracias por contestar
[19:21] <Josee> solo ando "explorando"
[19:21] <Josee> 1ra vez q veo q puppy tiene un chat
[19:21] <mimecar> no has entrado al chat de Puppy
[19:21] <mimecar> sino al de Ubuntu
[19:21] <Josee> soy un hombre muy "windows" osea... ignorante total
[19:21] <Josee> bueno, pero entre a traves del listado de un programa o algo del puppy
[19:21] <Josee> veo q sos muy estricto che jaja
[19:22] <mimecar> estricto no, los canales son temáticos
[19:22] <Xavier89> Josee estas desde xchat
[19:22] <Josee> estaba probando esta distro para una pc re vieja, con pocos recursos
[19:22] <Josee> okok
[19:22] <Josee> me retiro.. q se yo
[19:22] <Xavier89> mejor pon debian 8 + lxde
[19:22] <Xavier89> para pc vieja
[19:22] <Josee> gracias igual por contestar.
[19:22] <Xavier89> o lubuntu
[19:23] <Josee> gracias xavier
[19:23] <mefista_> Closing imap connection
[19:23] <Josee> saludos a todos
[19:23] <Josee> adios
[21:50] <ocurieles> Hola Buenas tardes, quiero felicitarles por la liberación de la versión 15.10... era usuario de Apple desde el 2007, a principios de este año comence usando Fedora - pero la verdad es que con esta nueva version de Ubuntu, mucho mas facil usar Unity que Gnome3 y bastante estable, de nuevo mis respetos.
[22:03] <mefista_> ocurieles: sabes un canal de mac
[22:04] <ocurieles> No ya me libere de MAC jajaa
[22:04] <ocurieles> era un esclavo
[22:05] <mefista_> tengo un mac y kiero ponerle ubuntu
[22:05] <ocurieles> pero en Google encontre esto https://itunes.apple.com/es/podcast/canal-mac-del-chat-hispano/id360576576?mt=2
[22:05] <ocurieles> pero yo lo hice
[22:05] <ocurieles> sin problemas
[22:06] <ocurieles> que problema has tenido pasando a Buuntu ?
[22:06] <ocurieles> que problema has tenido pasando a Ubuntu ?
[22:06] <mefista_> kiero tener los so en mi portatil
[22:07] <mefista_> los dos
[22:07] <ocurieles> si busca en youtube como hacerlo, es facil
[22:08] <mefista_> decargo el ubuntu para instalar desde usb
[22:10] <mefista_> pero eso de itunes es un postcast
[22:10] <mefista_> quiero un canal como este pero para mac
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2015-11-12-#juju
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[03:19] <stub> marcoceppi: I don't know and I don't care. Should I care?
[03:19] <marcoceppi> stub: we accidentally merged it with precise
[03:20] <stub> Hmmm...
[03:21] <stub> It should work - it just relies on charmhelpers and the PG stuff is common, and the default PG version for precise is still coded in there.
[03:21] <marcoceppi> stub: we can revert, but it seems to be working
[03:22] <stub> Ok. I was kind of hoping to just drop support for precise (since we don't need it any more), but we can drop support for this version rather than the previous version
[03:24] <stub> If the basic deployment, the rest will work the same or better than the previous version. Replication or some extensions like wal_e might be wonky, but the older version would be wonkier.
[03:25] <stub> So lets leave it.
[03:30] <stub> I'll try and have the reactive rewrite up soon :)
[09:21] <gnuoy> jamespage, https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charms/trusty/odl-controller/new-tests/+merge/277258 is ready for another review if you have a moment
[09:28] <jamespage> gnuoy, ok looking now
[09:37] <jamespage> gnuoy, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/charms/trusty/neutron-openvswitch/lp1515008/+merge/277325
[09:40] <jamespage> gnuoy, I'll just wait for amulet to pass that before landing
[09:40] <gnuoy> kk
[09:40] <jamespage> gnuoy, can we get osci pointed at the odl-controller branches?
[09:41] <gnuoy> yep
[09:47] <gnuoy> jamespage, when the branches exist I think https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/ubuntu-openstack-ci/odl/+merge/277327 should do the trick
[09:47] <gnuoy> beisner, ^
[09:56] <jamespage> gnuoy, can we create /next branches now from the current source branches and propose against those? running things by hand is nasty
[09:56] <gennadiy> hi all. i need to create specific instance type of aws ec2 instance for my service.
[09:57] <gennadiy> i know about juju set-constraints --service <name> instance-type=m3.xlarge
[09:57] <gnuoy> jamespage, yes, but I don't know what needs to happen to get osci to pick up the change to lp:ubuntu-openstack-ci
[09:57] <gnuoy> we can wait for beisner if you like
[09:57] <jamespage> gnuoy, sure
[09:57] <jamespage> if your branch tests out ok I'll land it
[09:57] <gennadiy> but when i add unit from juju-gui it creates default instance tyoe
[10:01] <jamespage> gnuoy, we need to plumb in AMULET_ODL_LOCATION=http://10.245.161.162/swift/v1/opendaylight/distribution-karaf-0.2.3-Helium-SR3.tar.gz as well
[10:02] <gnuoy> yep
[10:08] <gnuoy> jamespage, added setting AMULET_ODL_LOCATION to the mp
[10:48] <dpm_> hi all, anyone around who is familiar with https://jujucharms.com/python-django and can help with a couple of questions?
[10:56] <apuimedo> frobware: Hi. I was told it is you who works on juju networking and using OpenStack for providing machines to Juju
[10:56] <frobware> apuimedo, yes
[10:56] <frobware> apuimedo, (and the team!)
[10:56] <apuimedo> frobware: that was fast :P
[10:56] <apuimedo> frobware: who's the team?
[10:56] <apuimedo> *in
[10:56] <frobware> apuimedo, dimitern, voidspace, dooferlad
[10:57] <apuimedo> nice to meet you guys ;-)
[10:57] <dooferlad> hi
[10:58] <frobware> apuimedo, want to briefly HO - I saw you had some questions earlier in the week
[10:58] <apuimedo> HO?
[10:58] <frobware> apuimedo, google hangout
[10:58] <apuimedo> sounds good
[10:58] <frobware> apuimedo, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/juju-sapphire
[10:59] <dooferlad> frobware: there in a couple of minutes
[11:03] <apuimedo> frobware: I'm getting a google hangout error trying to join
[11:03] <apuimedo> when requesting permission to join
[11:04] <jamespage> frobware, you'll have to allow external participants as thats under a canonical.com hangout
[11:04] <frobware> apuimedo, OK, let's just try here in IRC
[11:04] <apuimedo> frobware: let me create a meeting on ho
[11:05] <apuimedo> frobware: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/midokura.com/juju_openstack
[11:08] <dimitern> hey apuimedo
[11:08] <apuimedo> hey ;-)
[11:19] <jamespage> gnuoy, juju-test INFO : Results: 4 passed, 0 failed, 0 errored
[11:19] <jamespage> awesome
[11:19] <gnuoy> \o/
[11:26] <jamespage> gnuoy, ok landed all of that
[11:26] <gnuoy> ta
[11:26] <jamespage> gnuoy, also snuck in the tox bits needed for if we want to upstream this charm to /openstack
[11:26] <gnuoy> k
[11:27] <jamespage> gnuoy, I think we could also run func tests under tox as well
[11:33] <apuimedo> dimitern: is there any trick that would make the openstack provider set up the bridges as if it were maas?
[11:33] <apuimedo> (I can disable the arp anti spoofing filter in my openstack provider)
[11:34] <gnuoy> jamespage, I'm guessing I need to
[11:35] <gnuoy> create the /next branches and delete the originals
[11:35] <gnuoy> or is there a smarted way
[11:35] <jamespage> yeah
[11:35] <gnuoy> smarted? smarter
[11:35] <gnuoy> kk
[11:35] <jamespage> just branch then and mark the old ones as decprecated
[11:36] <gnuoy> jamespage, I see Abandoned is that the one?
[11:36] <jamespage> yah
[11:36] <gnuoy> ta
[11:36] <jamespage> gnuoy, I'd create the trunk and next branches for all of them now under openstack-charmers
[11:37] <gnuoy> will do
[15:50] <gnuoy> beisner, I've probably missed something but if you get a sec https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/ubuntu-openstack-ci/odl/+merge/277327
[16:51] <thomnico> Hello
[16:51] <thomnico> does someone is familiar with add_source(source, key=None): in juju helpers python ??
[16:51] <thomnico> I try to pass a block with the gpg key starting with -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- and it fails on safe_loader ..
[16:53] <marcoceppi> thomnico: I think you need a key ID not a key file, not sure though
[16:54] <lazypower> correct, it polls the configured keyserver for the key
[16:55] <thomnico> checking the code it show I should be able to add a keyfile ..
[16:55] <lazypower> or at least thats how i've used it
[16:55] <thomnico> and I won't have access to hard coded keyserver.ubuntu.com
[16:56] <lazypower> when live gives you lemons, write a bash script and use subprocess *ducks from impending object trajectory*
[16:56] <lazypower> s/live/life/
[16:56] <thomnico> hehehe you guys are the python fans
[16:56] <lazypower> I'm a pragmatist, I'm a fan of what works reliably
[16:57] <thomnico> so do I lazypower (but you know already)
[16:57] <lazypower> <3
[16:57] <thomnico> where should I raise bug on helpers please ??
[16:57] <lazypower> launchpad.net/charm-helpers
[16:58] <thomnico> It might pretty well be me not putting the expcted syntax though ..
[16:58] <lazypower> thats possible, but if there's a bug for it we can get it on the docket to take a closer look
[16:58] <lazypower> there very well may be a bug in there
[16:58] <thomnico> ok ...
[17:40] <bdx> jamespage: nice presentation! How can I start testing nova-compute-lxd? I'm checking out the lxd charm now....is there a method or procedure you have defined for how you are doing this?
[17:49] <jamespage> bdx, https://jujucharms.com/u/openstack-charmers-next/openstack-lxd
[17:51] <bdx> ooooohhh nicceeeee!! thx!
[18:05] <thedac> bdx: fyi, jamespage fixed a bug with DVR. This should help you. https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/neutron-openvswitch/+bug/1515008
[18:05] <mup> Bug #1515008: L3 agent missing on compute node in DVR setup <backport-potential> <openstack> <neutron-openvswitch (Juju Charms Collection):In Progress by james-page> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515008>
[18:41] <dpm_> Anyone knowledgeable on the python-django charm? I'm trying to use fabric as described on https://jujucharms.com/python-django , but whenever I try to execute a task with 'fab', I'm being asked for "Login password for 'ubuntu': "
[18:41] <dpm_> lazypower perhaps? ^
[18:54] <bdx> thedac: YES!
[18:55] <bdx> jamespage: ^^
[18:55] <thedac> bdx: Fix already landed in next and the backport to stable is on the way
[19:01] <bdx> thedac, jamespage: nice fix! ... it totally makes sense that was the issue...I can't stop smiling
[19:08] <bdx> thedac: thanks for your help over the last few days investigating that
[19:09] <thedac> bdx: no problem. Sorry I did not catch it sooner
[19:10] <bdx> thedac: your good man... ditto
[19:21] <beisner> gnuoy, jamespage - fyi uosci is now feeding on the odl trio; please see proposals on those charms for a few cosmetic adjustments.
[19:31] <lazypower> dpm_ sorry i'm not sure whats going on there. thumper is the current maintainer of the django charm. I think a mail to the list as he's in NZ timezones, would be a good path forward to getting support with that particular error :(
[19:31] <lazypower> sorry i'm not of more help
[19:33] <jcastro> lazypower: remind me, did you do the charm testing and debugging at the last summit?
[19:33] <lazypower> negatory
[19:34] <jcastro> ah, that was you mbruzek iirc
[19:35] <mbruzek> yeah that was me
[19:35] <jcastro> ok you're doing one for cfgmgmntcamp. :)
[19:35] <dpm_> lazypower, no worries, I ended up posting on http://askubuntu.com/questions/697318/how-to-use-fabric-with-juju and pinging cory_fu - will ask thumper on e-mail if all else faile
[19:35] <dpm_> *fails
[19:36] <jcastro> that reads like it's a key issue doesn't it?
[19:37] <jcastro> like, you should be able to just ssh in there without any prompts
[19:39] <cory_fu> jcastro: Yes, though per the instructions in the README it ought to just work. I'm not sure how the charm is supposed to tell fab to use the Juju SSH key, nor even how it tells it how to resolve a unit ID (foo/0) into a host name
[19:40] <jcastro> I'm going to stab in the dark and I bet thumper exports a bunch of environment variables for fab that juju consumes or the other way around
[19:40] * thumper has burning ears
[19:42] <cory_fu> Oh, no, it's the fabfile.py in the charm. You have to have that locally. I haven't used Fabric before. :)
[19:43] <dpm_> cory_fu, yeah, you bzr branch the charm, and then you can point fab to the fabfile
[19:43] <dpm_> if you're running fab from the charm's code directory, it finds the fabfile.py automatically too
[19:44] <dpm_> I've also added
[19:44] <thumper> what you do need?
[19:44] <cory_fu> thumper: https://askubuntu.com/questions/697318/how-to-use-fabric-with-juju
[19:44] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/697318/how-to-use-fabric-with-juju
[19:44] <dpm_> thanks guys :)
[19:44] <cory_fu> It's prompting for the ubuntu user's password
[19:44] <thumper> lazypower: that reminds me, I need to propose another change to the django charm as I've deployed celery in prod now
[19:45] <cory_fu> Not using Juju's ssh key file
[19:45] <thumper> lazypower: and I need to support upgrading django so I can get to 1.8
[19:47] <thumper> dpm_: I'm unclear as to what you are attepmting
[19:49] <cory_fu> dpm_: Ok, so if your SSH public key is on Launchpad, you can get this to work by importing your key into the Juju deployment: juju authorized-keys import <launchpad-username>
[19:49] <dpm_> thumper, essentially to be able to run "fab -R python-django/0 manage:collectstatic" from my desktop PC
[19:49] <cory_fu> thumper: I think either that needs to be added to the Fabric section of the README, or it should somehow use the juju_id_rsa key
[19:50] <cory_fu> ("that" being the auth-keys import instructions)
[19:50] <thumper> hmm... not at all familiar with fabric
[19:51] <thumper> why does this not just translate through a juju run thing?
[19:51] <dpm_> cory_fu, that worked nicely, thanks! Now the actual command failed, but at least key authentication worked
[19:52] <cory_fu> thumper: It apparently uses normal ssh. There might be a way to have it use `juju ssh` as its ssh command, but I don't know how that would work
[19:53] <dpm_> I'm not familiar with fabric, either, I just used it as the charm's documentation mentions it as the way to do what I was trying to do. If there is an equivalent way to do it with juju, I'd be more than happy to try that instead
[19:55] <cory_fu> These functions should really be redone as Juju actions, but that would require work on the charm
[19:59] <dpm_> cory_fu, in any case, your suggestion worked, so if you want to add it to the Ask Ubuntu question, I'll check it as the answer
[19:59] <cory_fu> Done
[20:01] <dpm_> \o/ thanks!
[20:03] <cory_fu> dpm_: What error did you get from the command failure? Anything useful?
[20:06] <dpm_> cory_fu, it seems not all of the fabricfile.py commands work. Luckily, the one I'm interested in (manage:collectstatic) does. But here is an example of one that doesn't: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13241329/
[20:06] <lazypower> thumper so many wants, so many todos, so little time
[20:06] <dpm_> it seems to use ubucon_site instead of the expected gunicorn as the service name
[20:06] <lazypower> thumper i know those feels :-|
[20:09] <jcastro> man, authorized-keys import. I didn't even know that existed
[20:10] <cory_fu> dpm_: What does this give you: juju ssh python-django/0 -- ls /etc/init/ubucon_site.conf
[20:10] <cory_fu> dpm_: Scratch that. This instead: juju ssh ubucon_site/7 -- ls /etc/init/ubucon_site.conf
[20:12] <dpm_> cory_fu, there is not such a file. ubucon-site is not a service, it's created using a ubucon-site.yaml config for the python-django charm
[20:14] <cory_fu> dpm_: The way the charm looks like it works is that it creates an Upstart job conf file in /etc/init based on the name of the deployed service, from the unit name (in your case, ubucon-site/7). So if the site were up and running, and thus could be reloaded, there should be an /etc/init/ubucon-site.conf file on the unit
[20:16] <cory_fu> Is there a config option that you haven't set for the charm to start the service?
[20:16] <cory_fu> (thumper might be of more use there)
[20:16] <cory_fu> I don't really know much about that charm
[20:17] <dpm_> cory_fu, the site is up and running, but the charm seems to set up only the gunicorn upstart job as means of reloading the site: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13241388/
[20:17] <dpm_> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/13241402
[20:22] <cory_fu> dpm_: Ah, I think the issue is that the Fabric code pre-dates the wsgi / gunicorn change
[20:23] <dpm_> aha
[20:25] <cory_fu> dpm_: You could edit the reload function in fabfile.py and hard-code the service name to "gunicorn"...
[20:25] <cory_fu> - sudo('service %s reload' % env.sanitized_service_name)
[20:25] <cory_fu> + sudo('service gunicorn reload')
[20:26] <dpm_> yeah, I was toying with the idea :)
[20:26] <cory_fu> That should be changed in the charm to handle whatever wsgi subordinate was used, but I'm not sure how that would work
[20:27] <dpm_> That is way beyond my charm-fu, but for now I'm happy that it's more or less working :)
[20:31] <cory_fu> Glad we could help
[20:32] <dpm_> indeed, thanks :)
[22:22] <blahdeblah> Hi all - anyone able to tell me what happened here? http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/job/charm-bundle-test-lxc/1392/console
[22:22] <blahdeblah> Looks like a problem with the test infrastructure, not the MP.
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[02:41] <xubuntu36w> HI, I messed up with the visudo command and now my system doesn't recognize my user account as being a sudoer, when I try to su to root it isn't accepting the password I thought I used. I tried to boot to recovery mode but when I choose root from the recovery menu it prompts me to enter the root password to proceed or I have to use CTRL-D to boot normally.
[02:41] <xubuntu36w> I tried editing the grub boot using the old method of invoking the menu, editing the linuz line by adding single to the end but that doesn't work either.
[02:42] <xubuntu36w> Is there anything I can do short of booting to a USB key?
[02:44] <xubuntu36w> I'm using xubuntu 15.10
[08:21] <anal0g> I'm having an odd issue where my computer "lags" for a few seconds every now and then, causing everything I type to be delayed. I can still move my mouse but clicking windows also gets delayed. Any clue about how to debug this? I'm trying to use something like htop to see if any processes are spiking and using all my CPU, but htop itself also stops updating
[08:21] <anal0g> during that lag.
[09:17] <nils17> hi. xfce4-terminal --working-directory=/tmp leads me not to /tmp but to home-folder.. what could be wwrong?
[11:27] <Guest21326> i need help
[11:28] <cfhowlett> !help | Guest21326
[13:49] <xubuntu21w> Hi friends! Can anyone tell me how to upgrade from xubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 via terminal. I'v tried several times but it seems I have problems with some servers. Thanks!
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | xubuntu21w
[15:37] <xubuntu786> how do I use create keyboard shortcuts to control volume?
[15:41] <xubuntu786> I'm in the keyboard app, and I clicked on add
[15:50] <gabkdlly> xubuntu786: The keyboard app allows you to map keys to arbitrary commands, so is you question how to change volume on the commandline ?
[15:52] <RFleming> Greetings!
[15:53] <RFleming> I'm having issues with the lightdm greeter on my Lenovo laptop
[15:53] <RFleming> On my virtual machine, lightdm takes the wallpaper of the user highlighted for login, but on my laptop (using nouveau) it briefly shows that wallpaper, then flashes to the default wallpaper
[15:55] <RFleming> If I change the greeters wallpaper, then it flashes the users wallpaper first, then a white backgrounda appears.
[15:56] <RFleming> if I switch it to use the nVidia driver, it works as expected.
[15:57] <RFleming> I don't know if this is a nouveau issue, or a greeter issue
[16:08] <gabkdlly> xubuntu786: pactl is a command that might help you, check out its man page.
[17:32] <tekgeek> I have a question about making a program start up with the computer. on another one of my computers in KDE I can open up user/.kde/autostart and just drop my krfb.desktop icon in that folder and it starts with KDE. I have been trying to do the same with an xfce distro based on xubuntu. I attempted to drop the icon into user/.config/autostart but it doesn't start up with xfce
[17:33] <tekgeek> I am just trying to get krfb (vnc) to start up with the OS
[17:34] <genius3000> tekgeek: You can add it under the Session and Startup-> Application Autostart
[17:34] <drc> tekgeek: Try Settings>Sessions and Startup.
[17:35] <drc> Applications Autostart
[17:35] <tekgeek> yea I have seen that as well krfb is in the list and checked but still won't start up with the OS. or it will not allow me to connect via vnc I have to go to the computer and start it
[17:36] <tekgeek> the command listed under that is http://i.imgur.com/YOg5QQH.jpg
[17:36] <tekgeek> oops wrong thing
[17:37] <genius3000> It may not start until you login, using that.
[17:37] <tekgeek> krfb -caption %c %i
[17:37] <genius3000> You could add it to crontab for root, '@reboot'
[17:38] <genius3000> Sorry, for any user if that works.
[17:38] <tekgeek> I have searched for a couple weeks now to get it running so I can just log in from anywhere in the house... I have 15 computers running and I like to have access from anywhere
[17:39] <tekgeek> basically it looks like it should just work.
[17:40] <genius3000> Could also add it as a service, startup script with your init system.
[17:43] <tekgeek> /etc/xdg/autostart is another place that has startup programs.
[18:24] <sam_> hello
[21:00] <hexhaxtron> I just installed Xubuntu but it doesn't boot. GRUB is working but when pressing Enter I get: error: symbol grub_efi_secure_boot not found
[21:00] <hexhaxtron> Any ideas?
[21:00] <genii> !efi
[21:05] <hexhaxtron> genii, where is boot-repair?
[21:06] <flocculant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:53] <xubuntu38w> Hello everyone. I've got a question about dual booting vs running a virtual machine
[22:53] <xubuntu38w> I've been windows free for 6ish months now and everything is going great
[22:54] <xubuntu38w> However, there is certain windows only software that I need to run for school
[22:54] <mrkramps> xubuntu38w, depends on your system's specs
[22:54] <xubuntu38w> If i want to use windows at the most minimal level (only to run a few programs), should I use a virtual machine rather than dual booting
[22:55] <xubuntu38w> dell latitude laptop (e7440), intel core i5, 500gb hdd, 8gb ram
[22:55] <xubuntu38w> currently running xubuntu 15.10
[22:55] <mrkramps> give it a try
[22:55] <mrkramps> i would always recommend VM over dual booting
[22:56] <mrkramps> especially if it is for a single programm only
[22:56] <mrkramps> xubuntu38w, have you already checked if it works with wine?
[22:56] <xubuntu38w> one of the programs I'm looking to use is EAC (exact audio copy), which is used for ripping CDs. Will I run into mounting issues if this is used in a VM?
[22:56] <xubuntu38w> It does work with wine, but I do not wish to use wine
[22:57] <xubuntu38w> I use an external USB cd drive
[22:58] <mrkramps> shoudl work
[22:58] <mrkramps> but do not tell me you're installing windows for a cd ripper
[22:59] <xubuntu38w> EAC is the best program for providing error free rips
[23:00] <xubuntu38w> there is no linux equivalent that is as good
[23:00] <xubuntu38w> as EAC
[23:00] <knome> i use asunder and have had no problems
[23:01] <xubuntu38w> I've looked into rubyripper, but it's not as advanced and I'm pretty sure development has ended for it
[23:02] <mrkramps> true, 2014-03-10
[23:02] <xubuntu38w> is asunder still being supported/developed?
[23:03] <xubuntu38w> I'll have to see how it compares in terms of capability
[23:03] <knome> asunder is very basic, but it has no problems with ripping
[23:03] <knome> i do the final tagging of my audio files with my media manager anyway
[23:04] <xubuntu38w> Do you use it for ripping to lossless?
[23:04] <knome> no, but you can do that too
[23:07] <xubuntu38w> Anyone have an idea as to how much space windows 7 will take up?
[23:07] <xubuntu38w> with a dual boot configuration
[23:08] <xubuntu38w> i may even go with xp
[23:08] <Unit193> Thought Windows took 10-15GB, base system?
[23:08] <knome> xubuntu38w, you should ask ##windows
[23:08] <xubuntu38w> I will do that, thanks
[23:25] <xubuntu11w> Hi how can I check my computer for any hardware errors or failures?
[23:36] <mrkramps> xubuntu11w, check the log files
[23:36] <mrkramps> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[23:37] <mrkramps> and have an eye on your disk health https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[23:52] <xubuntu11w> mrkramps My computer is having a problem where the internet keeps disconnecting. I use a wireless adapter to connect to the internet. And my computer has freeze because of this issue. In syslog it says error 4 networkmanager
[23:55] <mrkramps> xubuntu11w, just a guess, but sound like driver issue then
[23:56] <mrkramps> xubuntu11w, what kind of wifi chipset is the adapter using
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[00:00] * popey turns into a pumpkin and goes to bed
[00:00] <popey> nn all
[00:00] <diddledan_> nn
[03:59] <mapps> ;]
[04:19] <mapps> good tv night;D
[04:27] <mapps> the league is so funny:D
[04:31] <mapps> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420293/
[04:31] <mapps> sounds ok
[07:48] <mapps> hi :D
[07:48] <mapps> still drawn to the apprentice, although its the same old
[08:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:14] <zmoylan-pi> morning before the storm...
[08:15] <mapps> morning zmoylan-pi brobostigon
[08:17] <brobostigon> morning zmoylan-pi and mapps
[08:19] <mapps> im off now,packing laptop
[08:19] <mapps> off to Benalmadena
[08:19] <mapps> ;)
[08:20] <zmoylan-pi> safe trip o/
[08:20] <brobostigon> grab some nice spanish ham for me, :)
[10:12] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Pizza With The Works Except Anchovies Day! 😃
[10:13] <zmoylan-pi> i'm not a fan of pizza... it's meh
[10:15] <JamesTait> All pizza?
[10:15] <zmoylan-pi> i'd always prefer a nice sandwich before a pizza
[10:18] <JamesTait> With the works, except anchovies? 😉
[10:20] <zmoylan-pi> just butter and ham. or butter and crisps, or butter and chicken, or butter and bananas. nothing fancy
[10:25] <JamesTait> Bacon, brie and avocado, with mayo, on granary.
[10:25] <diplo> Never tried avocado but bacon and brie on granary \o/ JamesTait :)
[10:26] <JamesTait> To be brutally honest, I'd probably eat avocado with most things. 😝
[10:27] <zmoylan-pi> so... 2 avocados at once? :-)
[10:27] <diplo> I may have to go out and buy one at lunch to try
[10:41] <mapES> Hi all:)
[10:41] <mapES> Nice and sunny here:D
[10:42] <mapES> 6 euros/ day for mpbile net seemed ok
[10:56] <davmor2> JamesTait: now I know it, you are making this stuff up aren't you
[10:57] <JamesTait> davmor2, when I announce Pay James Tait a Fiver Day, then you'll know I'm making it up. 😉
[10:58] <davmor2> JamesTait: Oh when's that day so I can put it in my calendar to rob you....
[10:59] <JamesTait> Tomorrow. 😉
[11:00] <davmor2> JamesTait: maybe this will help you choose better days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pgPq4FGWfk
[11:01] <JamesTait> davmor2, that was uncalled for. 😉
[11:03] <davmor2> JamesTait: there are also the misheard lyrics from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no1vf854aUc I still think she says pizza swirling through my mind, not these sounds fall :)
[11:04] <davmor2> JamesTait: you be the judge :)
[11:05] <davmor2> although be warned there is a danger that you will want to listen to 90's dance music all day
[11:05] <davmor2> not necessarily a bad things just a warning
[11:05] <JamesTait> Very little danger of that, I think. I'm currently listening to 90's rock music.
[11:06] <JamesTait> Definitely pizza though.
[11:46] <davmor2> JamesTait: You might like this, My morning head song this morning....Ain't no Sunshine by bill withers :)
[14:06] <DJones> Don't know if anybody's noticed this, might affect any freelance IT consultants http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/12/it_contractors_raise_alarm_over_hmrc_mulling_onemonth_nudge_onto_payrolls/
[14:08] <zmoylan-pi> an opportunity for ferries to offer coding cruises to allow off shoring i.t. work away from tax office scrutiny :-)
[14:25] <daftykins> diddledan: https://www.dropbox.com/s/96x7rs3f9kx61kr/win10.PNG?dl=0
[15:28] <mapps> hola:D
[15:29] <davmor2> mapps: hello
[15:29] <mapps> :D
[15:31] <diddledan_> 'owdo
[15:58] <daftykins> diddledan_: new build installed :O
[15:58] <diddledan_> \o/
[15:58] <diddledan_> which number was that?
[15:59] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/96x7rs3f9kx61kr/win10.PNG?dl=0
[15:59] <davmor2> 42
[15:59] <diddledan_> oh is that the final release update? i.e. not the same build sent to insiders a couple days ago?
[16:00] <diddledan_> it's the same build number but when I updated to that number it was still listed as th2
[16:00] <diddledan_> and insider build
[16:00] <daftykins> yeah this ones on my laptop right now, which isn't on the insiders
[16:01] <diddledan_> gotcha
[16:02] <daftykins> not a fan of downloading 3GB per host per time
[16:02] <diddledan_> looks like it was launched about an hour ago
[16:03] <daftykins> mmm
[16:20] <awilkins> At least the new builds will accept Win7 & 8 keys as activators
[16:21] <awilkins> Don't have to go through all the massive ... scrotal pain ... of upgrading, formatting, and reinstalling
[16:22] <awilkins> I'm putting it off and putting it off because it means reinstalling my Linux as well
[16:22] <awilkins> Have added an SSD and need to repartition everything
[16:24] <diddledan_> six completely random adverts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPb4EZ3s7iM&list=PLKnm0NFN_gbl6AHt5K7FWfV14H7kzgeD4&index=1
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[10:21] <Shanx_> Morgen
[10:22] <Shanx_> Hab ein Problem mit UNetbootin und zwar versuche ich ein windows usb stick zu erstellen jedoch bleibt das programm immer bei sources/install.wim hängen... egal ob win7/8.1 ...
[10:22] <Shanx_> den USB stick habe ich mit gparted auf FAT32 formatiert
[10:23] <Shanx_> neu installation von UNbootin hat auch nix gebracht...
[10:28] <jokrebel> Für Windows-Sticks bist Du wohl in einem Windowskanal richtiger, findest Du nicht Shanx_?
[10:29] <Shanx_> jokrebel ja das stimmt. nur nutze ich ubuntu und wollte mit dem stick mein windows bootloader widerherstellen
[10:32] <jokrebel> Auch wenn Du dualboot mit Ubuntu hast ist die Windows-Reparatur deshalb immer noch keine Ubuntu-Angelegenheit. Was ist denn aus der originalen Windows-Installations-CD geworden, die für sowas hervorrragend geeignet ist.
[10:33] <Shanx_> ich hab kein dvd laufwerk also bin ich gezwungen ein usb stick zu nutzen
[10:35] <jokrebel> wie kam das Windows ursprünglich drauf? Und eine Recovery-Partition gibt es auch nicht?
[10:39] <Shanx_> das windows habe ich auf meinem altem lappy auf usb kopiert. jedoch gibts den lappy nicht mehr das einzigste was ich habe ist momentan Ubuntu und halt windows ... aber auf windows komme ich nicht da ich den bootloader mit grub zerschosen habe
[10:40] <jokrebel> Wenn der grub bootloader "zerschossen" ist musst Du doch wohl eher den reparieren?
[10:41] <Shanx_> nein der funktioniert aber er zeigt windows halt nicht an
[10:45] <Shanx_> mom bin gleich wider da
[11:36] <Approach> Ich habe ein Ordner erstellt und dem User und Gruppe www-data gegeben. Wie kann ich als User nun schreibrechte bekommen?
[11:36] <k1l> pck dich in die gruppe www-data?
[11:37] <k1l> *pack
[11:37] <Approach> drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 12 12:34 test
[11:37] <Approach> habe ich gemacht.... sudo usermod -aG www-data approach
[11:38] <k1l> relogin?
[11:38] <k1l> ah die gruppe hat aber gar kein w. also kein schriebrecht
[11:39] <Approach> ahhh, ja das wars schon
[11:40] <Approach> ich sollte weniger pilze nehmen und ungeschützen geschlechtverkehr ausüben :D
[11:43] <David1977> Das Jahr is ja bald rum...da sind gute Vorsätze immer angebracht ;)
[12:10] <doev> Hallo. Wie hoch ist die Wahrscheinlichkeit, dass dieser wireless Controller mit Ubuntu funktioniert? http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00BUO5LUY
[12:18] <jokrebel> doev: Für Meinungsumfragen ist dies der falsche Kanal. ...oo( aber hast Du denn die Kommentare auch gelesen - insbesondere den bezüglich Raspberry )
[12:21] <Fuchs> doev: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00CJ5FP2C/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=556245207&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0041PY6IM&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_r=0N5D2RJQCB6C3BE29ZJP das geht.
[12:36] <doev> jokrebel, bei Kundenfragen ... ok, hört sich gut an. Fuchs, der ist mir zu teuer. Will es billig.
[12:38] <Fuchs> Dann willst Du die hardware compatibility list anschauen
[15:12] <blackboxsilber> test
[15:13] <leszek> blackboxsilber: funzt
[15:13] <blackboxsilber> guten tag
[15:14] <leszek> hi
[15:15] <blackboxsilber> auch hi
[15:23] <blackboxsilber> frage ihr benutzt alle linux?
[15:26] <blackboxsilber> hier sind jede menge user und keiner antwortet super truppe
[15:31] <koegs> blackboxsilber: weil hier nicht der laber-channel ist
[15:31] <koegs> blackboxsilber: dafür gibt es #ubuntu-de-offtopic
[15:34] <blackboxsilber> aha
[16:29] <agentsoul> Hallo bei ssh-Authentifizierung über Public-Keys wird der Key nur einmal zur Authent. des Users benutzt und nicht mehr anschließend zum eigentlichen verschl. der Leitung richtig?
[16:39] <agentsoul> ich frage da ein 4096 Key mehr Rechnerleistung schluckt als 2048. Aber nur für Auth wäre das kein Problem sonst evtl schon bei mir.
[16:53] <mrkramps> mag's ja selber kaum glauben, aber ich brauche mal hilfe, weil ich gerade überhaupt keine ahnung habe, wo ich ansetzen müsste
[16:53] <mrkramps> ich habe hier zwei baugleiche monitore, die über dvi-d und vga angeschlossen werden sollen. allerdings verlieren die vor dem start von lightdm das signal
[16:55] <mrkramps> schließt man die einzelnd an, dann funktioniert vga problemlos, aber dvi kriege ich wieder kein signal
[16:56] <mrkramps> dvi funktioniert aber über hdmi-dvi-adapter als zweitmonitor an einem laptop
[16:57] <mrkramps> schließe ich meinen alten monitor über dvi an, und einen neuen über vga, dann geht das signal auch verloren
[16:57] <mrkramps> allerdings kann ich auch tty wechseln
[16:57] <mrkramps> *auf
[16:59] <mrkramps> das ganze mit einer radeonHD 6500D (APU) auf einem ASUS F1A75-M mainboard
[16:59] <mrkramps> fehlermeldungen: XServer keine, dmesg nichts
[17:29] <ghostcube> mrkramps: dualview?
[17:29] <ghostcube> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/randr alt aber sollte gehen
[17:31] <mrkramps> ghostcube, ich bemühe mich gerade =D
[17:33] <mrkramps> ghostcube, ich bin da jetzt einiges durch und ich befürchte mal das läuft auf radeon.modeset=0 raus
[17:33] <ghostcube> hmm ok.. ich bin en nvidia user... ich kann dir mit amd nich wirklich helfen :d
[17:33] <ghostcube> ich hab nur mal schnell das ausgegraben
[17:37] <mrkramps> oh lustig, setzte ich einen der beiden monitore nicht auf maximale auflösung, dann geht was oO
[17:39] <ghostcube> klingt nach murks
[17:39] <ghostcube> :D
[17:43] <mrkramps> shice ist das
[17:45] <leszek> mrkramps: mit radeon treibern ? Das wird glaub ich nix. Wenn möglich die fglrx treiber und deren catalyst tool versuchen
[17:45] <leszek> wobei ati/amd auf linux mit fglrx generell murks ist. Radeon ist das was man will. Zumindest auf einem Monitor :P
[17:45] <mrkramps> das nervt -.-
[17:46] <mrkramps> radeon ohne kms will man nämlich auch nicht
[17:46] <mrkramps> aber gut, ausprobieren kann man das alles ja mal
[17:46] <digitaloktay> http://www.computerbase.de/2015-11/broadwell-e-core-i7-6950x-als-neues-flaggschiff-mit-10-kernen/
[17:46] <leszek> ist halt amd. Wenigstens scheinen die ja für die Zukunft mal was vernünftiges zu basteln
[17:46] <digitaloktay> ui
[17:47] <digitaloktay> ups
[17:59] <olymbus> hallo zusammen habe einen canon-i-sensys-lbp5050n den ich nach dieser anleitung installiert habe https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/installation-canon-i-sensys-lbp5050/, und dazu das CUPS 2.1.0
[17:59] <olymbus> [18:55] <olymbus> nur drucken kann ich leider nicht
[17:59] <olymbus> system kubuntu 15.10
[17:59] <olymbus> kernel 4.2.0-18
[17:59] <olymbus> und kde-plasma 5.4.2
[18:05] <olymbus> hat da nimand eine idee was ich noch machen kann
[18:09] <sdx23> olymbus: "kann nicht drucken" sagt leider so gar nichts aus
[18:10] <stareye> ich wüsste was aber werde dafür gekickt also nicht :P
[18:11] <olymbus> ich kann aus dem libre office was schreiben und drucken nur kommen die daten nie beim drucker an
[18:11] <olymbus> oder auch ein bild drucken geht nicht
[18:11] <mrkramps> leszek, danke nochmal für den hinweis, mit fglrx läuft es jetzt tatsächlich
[18:11] <olymbus> der drucker wird automatisch am usb port gefunden
[18:12] <leszek> :)
[18:12] <mrkramps> ich klink mich dann erstmal wieder aus und stell meinen arbeitsplatz wieder her
[18:13] <olymbus> der drucker wieder sogar über CUPS gefunden
[18:13] <olymbus> http://localhost:631/printers
[18:13] <stareye> was sagt dmesg
[18:13] <stareye> da haben wir kein zugriff lokal
[18:13] <olymbus> das habe ich nicht versucht das ich es nicht weiss
[18:14] <stareye> aber ubuntu installieren
[18:14] <stareye> :)
[18:15] <olymbus> nein kubuntu
[18:15] <olymbus> was musst du aus der dmesg haben
[18:16] <stareye> am besten komplette
[18:16] <stareye> dmesg | pastebinit
[18:16] <olymbus> das hat hier drin nicht platz
[18:17] <jokrebel> olymbus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ wie im Topic steht
[18:18] <olymbus> ok danke
[18:19] <olymbus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13240632/
[18:20] <freddy2001> wie bekomme ich eine intel gma 500 am besten unter 15.10 ans laufen?
[18:22] <olymbus> hast du was gefunden jokrebel weil ich weis nicht nach was ich suchen muss da ich keine ahnung habe
[18:27] <jokrebel> olymbus: Ich gab Dir nur den Link fürs Pasten. Angefordert hatte das stareye
[18:29] <olymbus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13240632/
[18:29] <olymbus> und das ist der link
[18:31] <jokrebel> ja, ich kenn mich aber mit Canon-Druckern trotzdem nicht aus ;-)
[18:32] <olymbus> ich auch nicht weil mein hp drucker unter kubuntu 15.10 wie 14.04 geht
[19:02] <jokrebel> DerProfessor: Probleme mit Deiner Verbindung? Bitte fixen oder den Auto-join einstweilen abschalten.
[19:21] <Alteisen> nabend, ich habe hier ein Abhängigeitsproblem, ein Paket ist in einem "sehr schlechten inkonsistenten Zustand"
[19:21] <Alteisen> Neu installieren des Pakets hilft auch nicht.
[19:21] <Alteisen> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Paketes libnss3-nssdb (--configure): Paket ist in einem sehr schlechten inkonsistenten Zustand - Sie sollten es nochmal installieren, bevor Sie die Konfiguration versuchen.
[19:22] <leszek> Alteisen: hast du es wirklich neu heruntergeladen ? Also aus dem apt-cache gelöscht und dann nochmal heruntergeladen ?
[19:22] <jokrebel> paste doch mal die komplette ausgabe von "apt update%%apt dist-upgrade" in einem NoPasteDienst
[19:25] <Alteisen> hab gerade /var/cache/apt/archives mit rm * geleert
[19:25] <Alteisen> dann nochmal apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[19:27] <Alteisen> http://t.ctdo.de/a/356brilt428
[19:34] <mrkramps> Alteisen, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:35] <Alteisen> http://t.ctdo.de/a/356qjryh920
[19:35] <Alteisen> hatte ich schon probiert... :/
[19:36] <mrkramps> sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall libnss3-nssdb
[19:37] <Alteisen> mrkramps: jepp, das hat funktioniert
[19:37] <mrkramps> sehr gut
[19:38] <Alteisen> ich hatte apt-get -f install $paket versucht
[19:38] <mrkramps> damit prügelt man eigentlich nur fehlende abhängigkeiten durch
[19:38] <Alteisen> http://t.ctdo.de/a/357dfqyw123
[19:39] <Alteisen> wenn die Hilfe zu apt-get auch ein "reinstall" angepriesen hätte... glaubt mir, ich hätte es probiert...
[19:40] <mrkramps> Alteisen, siehe manpage ;)
[19:42] <Alteisen> tja, da bin ich wohl mal reingefallen... ;)
[20:01] <TeXnicer> Aber viel wichtiger: Hat dieses apt-get superkuh-Kräfte? Oder gibt es hier wirklich kein easter-egg mehr?
[20:03] <k1l> mach mal ein "apt moo" :)
[20:03] <Alteisen> ;)
[20:03] <Alteisen> apt-get moo!
[20:04] <TeXnicer> apt-get -vvv
[22:47] <kirsten> hallöchen, wie ändere ich alle meine Dateien auf meinem Laptiop mit chmod 775 ???
[22:48] <k1l> warum würdest du das wollen für ale daten?
[22:48] <k1l> *alle
[22:48] <bekks> k1l: Wenn du das tust, wird dein Rechner nie wieder booten. Nie. wieder.
[22:48] <kirsten> damit ich auf mein NAS zugreien kann, per nfs
[22:48] <bekks> Dann darfst du alles neu installieren.
[22:48] <kirsten> ist ja gerade alles neu installier
[22:48] <kirsten> #installiert
[22:49] <k1l> warst du das nicht, mit schonmal diesem komischen mischmasch mit den rechten auf dem nas?
[22:49] <bekks> Ja.
[22:50] <kirsten> ja, ja aber dann war alles gut. aber jetzt habe ich eine neue Festplatte in mein Laptop eingebaut...
[22:50] <bekks> Dann ist der Ansatz mit 775 auf dem Laptop trotzdem falsch.
[22:50] <bekks> Das war er vorher auch schon. ;)
[22:52] <kirsten> hm, aber es lief alles super, file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 war mein NAS und da kann man uid und gid nicht ändern
[22:52] <kirsten> und deshalb muss ich doch uid und gid auf meinem Laptop ändern...
[22:52] <bekks> Nein.
[22:52] <bekks> Das ist völliger Quatsch.
[22:52] <bekks> Du möchtest die Zugriffsrechte auf dem NAS ändern.
[22:53] <kirsten> ah
[22:53] <kirsten> und das mach ich auf dem nas?
[22:54] <bekks> Das können wir Dir nicht sagen, ohne zu wissen was das für ein NAS ist.
[22:54] <kirsten> ein Synologie NAS
[22:54] <bekks> Dann musst du es entsprechend mounten, was du ja bereits tust.
[22:54] <bekks> Du mountest ein Samba-Share, richtig?
[22:55] <kirsten> nein ich möchte nur ntfs
[22:55] <bekks> NTFS is ein Dateisystem, kein Filesharing-Protokoll.
[22:55] <bekks> NTFS kann man remote nicht mounten.
[22:55] <kirsten> ähm nfs
[22:55] <bekks> Aha.
[22:56] <bekks> Und was ist das _eigentliche_ Problem?
[22:57] <kirsten> im NAS kann ich die uid und gid nicht ändern. Deshalb muss ich die uid und gid vom Ubuntu-Rechner ändern
[22:57] <bekks> Das ist nicht das eigentliche Problem.
[22:57] <bekks> Das ist dein Lösungsansatz für "irgendwas".
[22:57] <bekks> Was ist das _eigentliche_ Problem?
[22:58] <kirsten> naja ich möchte die Dateien per Ubison synchronisieren und da müssen die Rechte genau gleich sein
[22:58] <bekks> Jein.
[22:59] <bekks> Du hast mehrere Rechner, die auf das NAS schreiben, und möchtest deswegen Unison benutzen?
[23:00] <kirsten> ja, einen desktop und einen Laptoprechner
[23:01] <bekks> Und was genau führt dazu, dass du "file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775" benutzt?
[23:01] <kirsten> und es hat auch immer super geklappt!
[23:01] <bekks> Da das immer super funktioniert hat - WAS ist das EIGENTLICHE Problem jetzt?
[23:02] <kirsten> das weiss ich nicht mehr so genau. ich meine, weil ihr mir vor einem jahr dazu geraten habt!
[23:02] <bekks> Garantiert nicht :)
[23:02] <kirsten> hm, das Problem ist, dass ich gerade Ubuntu neu installiert habe und jetzt die uid und gid sich von meinem NAS unterscheiden
[23:03] <bekks> Der Satz ergibt keinerlei Sinn.
[23:03] <kirsten> und ich so nicht mehr auf das Nas schreiben kann
[23:03] <bekks> DENN: uid=1000,gid=1000 sorgt dafür, dass du LOKAL das Zeug als UID/GID 1000 siehst. DAS wiederum bedeutet, dass du gar keinen Unterschied zu vorher sehen kannst.
[23:04] <bekks> Also WAS ist das EIGENTLICHE Problem?
[23:05] <kirsten> das Problem ist, dass ich nicht auf meine Daten im Nas zugreifen kann
[23:05] <bekks> Warum nicht?
[23:05] <bekks> Sind die nicht mehr da? Kannst du das Share nicht mounten?
[23:05] <bekks> Verdammt noch eins, was ist so schwer an einer Beschreibung von "das tue ich, und das ist der Fehler der auftritt."?
[23:05] <bekks> Warum muss man denn da fünfzig mal fragen?
[23:05] <kirsten> die Dokumente werden immer schreibgeschützt geöffnet
[23:06] <bekks> Dann schau nach welche Berechtigungen sie haben.
[23:08] <kirsten> ich ("kirsten") darf lesen und schreiben, andere dürfen nur lesen. Aber scheinbar erkennt das Nas mich nicht als "kirsten", denn ich darf ja nur lesen
[23:09] <bekks> Ich will keine Lebensgeschichte lesen.
[23:09] <bekks> Ich will wissen welche BErechtigungen eine Beispieldatei hat.
[23:09] <bekks> ls -lha /pfad/zur/datei/name.dateiendung.
[23:09] <k1l> kirsten: also klappt dein nfs login/mount nicht richtig?
[23:14] <kirsten> wie komme ich per Terminal auf mein NAS? es hat die ip 192.168.178.48
[23:14] <bekks> Niemand hat irgendwas von deinem NAS gesagt.
[23:14] <bekks> Ubuntu, Terminal auf, ls -lha ... machen und die EINE Zeile hier reinpasten.
[23:14] <k1l> ssh user@ip, wenn da ssh aktiviert ist.
[23:14] <bekks> Dein Share ist gemounted, nun geht es darum zu sehen welche BErechtigungen eine fragliche Datei hat.
[23:15] <kirsten> ls -lha /pfad/zur/datei/name.dateiendung Die datei liegt doch auf dem NAS
[23:15] <bekks> Das Ding ist auf deinem Ubuntu gemounted...
[23:15] <kirsten> ah, ja
[23:17] <kirsten> -rwxrwxr-x 1 kirsten users 21K Mai 15 2003
[23:18] <bekks> Und was sagt die Ausgabe von "mount" in der Zeile mit dem NAS?
[23:21] <kirsten> type nfs4 (rw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=131072,wsize=131072,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.178.22,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.178.49)
[23:22] <bekks> Kannst du mit "touch /pfad/zu/was/auch/immer/test.txt" eine Textdatei erzeugen, die im selben Verzeichnis wie die Datei da oben liegt?
[23:24] <kirsten> »/mnt/Datenplatte/Text/test.txt“ kann nicht berührt werden: Keine Berechtigung :(
[23:26] <bekks> Dann passen entweder die Mountoptionen nicht, die Shareberechtigungen auf dem NAS nicht, oder die VErzeichnisberechtigungen auf dem gemounteten Share nicht.
[23:27] <kirsten> na super :)
[23:28] <bekks> Ersteres kannst du prüfen in dem du file_mode=0775,dir_mode=0775,uid=1000,gid=1000 weglässt beim mounten und dann die BErechtigungen prüfst, zweiteres in dem du die BErechtigungen in den Shareeinstellungen auf dem NAS prüfst, und drittens in dem du die BErechtigungen auf dem kompletten Pfad prüfst, von / bis hin zu test.txt
[23:28] <kirsten> ok, geht los
[23:29] <bekks> Du prüfst, nicht ich ;)
[23:39] <kirsten> hallo bekks, ich muss in vier Stunden schon wieder aufstehen. Ich schaffe es heute Nacht nicht. Morgen werde ich die Mountoptionen mit meinenDesktoprechner vergleichen, mit dem klappt ja alles
[23:39] <kirsten> aber vielen Dank schon mal
[23:39] <bekks> Viel Spass :)
[23:39] <kirsten> danke!
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[14:33] <thebwt> Good morning folks
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.566767
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-bugs
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[07:43] <spy6> hi there
[07:44] <spy6> There is a bug in launchpad, I'd like to link against multiple upstream bug reports ... is that possible?
[07:45] <spy6> anyway .. looks like launchpad can't connect to Linux Kernel Bug Tracker
[17:13] <melodie> hi
[17:13] <melodie> I just changed the title for my last bug report, as I have been able to find the origin of extra depends
[17:13] <melodie> here it is:*
[17:13] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[17:14] <melodie> I would now be glad to be able to trace back where another theme comes from, which I have tried to get rid of since some time now, it's humanity-icon-theme
[17:15] <melodie> in Vivid though
[17:20] <melodie> more and more themes are forced by default which makes the distro editions bigger and bigger which is not an issue for hard drives but is an issue for many users where the bandwidth is not generous and also forces the users to have themes which they may not like
[18:51] <melodie> hi again
[18:51] <melodie> can that considered being a bug? http://pastebin.com/atTHk3Nd
[19:27] <melodie> installing ubiquity-frontend-gtk is less worse
[19:27] <melodie> than installing ubiquity
[20:30] <cyphermox> melodie: it depends which frontend you want/need; plus you normally won't need to install ubiquity yourself
[20:31] <melodie> hi cyphermox
[20:32] <melodie> this isn't a good reason imo
[20:32] <melodie> when someone needs to create a remix or a master ubiquity can be desired
[20:32] <cyphermox> melodie: in which case you should specify exactly what frontend you want
[20:33] <melodie> I solved it by installing ubiquity-frontend-gtk, but still, in Wily many packages aren't done as well as they could be
[20:33] <cyphermox> what you're seeing this is pretty much just defaulting to the kde frontend, presumably because it shows up last in the list of packages
[20:33] <melodie> are you intersted in having the packages as lean as possible in Ubuntu?
[20:34] <melodie> interested*
[20:34] <melodie> sorry :)
[20:34] <cyphermox> sure, but this isn't this issue
[20:35] <cyphermox> for example, try to install just ubiquity-frontend-kde, you'll most likely see precisely the exact same list of packages as in your pastebin.
[20:36] <melodie> I start from a very small basis and spent today several hours just to struggle against unwanted depends, which makes me think I might dedicate next year to hunting that kind of thing in packages
[20:37] <cyphermox> that would likely be quite a good way to learn a lot about how Ubuntu works
[20:38] <cyphermox> melodie: what I'm saying is, normally it's more or less the right conclusion that you're getting to, except that ubiquity behaves this way because it depends on the virtual package ubiquity-frontend-$version, which is provided both by ubiquity-frontend-kde and ubiquity-frontend-gtk
[20:38] <cyphermox> I think in this case you see all the kde packages being pulled in because ubiquity-frontend-kde is later in the alphabet, so apt-get will match *it* instead of ubiquity-frontend-gtk to satisfy the virtual package :)
[20:40] <melodie> interesting
[20:40] <melodie> K comes after G right?
[20:41] <cyphermox> yes
[20:41] <melodie> so it's reverse alphabet?
[20:41] <cyphermox> oh, did i type it wrong?
[20:42] <cyphermox> you're getting k precisely because k goes after g ;)
[20:42] <melodie> so ubiquity pulls the latter?
[20:44] <melodie> this is just to confirm I get it right
[20:45] <cyphermox> yeah, that seems to be the case
[20:56] <melodie> ok
[20:56] <melodie> that would make sense, whereas is it logical or not is another thing
[20:57] <melodie> what I am concerned with is that it is becoming more and more difficult to keep a low size on an iso
[20:57] <melodie> which is a catastrophic issue considering the million downloads in the world
[20:58] <melodie> which all need bandwidth and obviously... electricity!
[21:01] <melodie> at the end, the following packages could be pointed as depends we could get out, gnome-icon-theme, adwaita-icon-theme, and ubuntu-mono
[21:06] <melodie> ttf-dejavu brings all these: "fonts-dejavu* fonts-dejavu-extra* ttf-dejavu* ttf-dejavu-core* ttf-dejavu-extra*"
[21:47] <melodie> bbl
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2015-11-12-#cloud-init
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[14:28] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, hm..
[14:28] <smoser> about to merge this, but one question
[14:28] <smoser> is data from dmi == data in shareconfig ?
[14:28] <smoser> or will an updated instance think that it is now a new instance because it loks in a different place
[14:30] <Odd_Bloke> Oh, that's an interesting point.
[14:32] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Just bringing up a fresh instance to test. :)
[14:37] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Oh, bah, no they aren't the same ID.
[14:39] <Odd_Bloke> Blah, and that means we can't even get away with it in xenial, because older instances might be upgraded to xenial and get the new code.
[14:40] <smoser> well, we can handle it in package upgrade
[14:41] <Odd_Bloke> Ah, true.
[14:41] <Odd_Bloke> It would be good to not have to maintain the old code paths in trunk.
[14:42] <smoser> ideally we do something that doesn't require package upgrade
[14:43] <smoser> erl... doesn't require package upgrade to fix the problem for us.
[14:43] <smoser> ie, best if e can somehow dtrt.
[14:44] <smoser> i absolutely want to be able to ditch the old code though.
[17:28] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I don't know that we can do anything without keeping the old code.
[17:30] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Do you have a specific case where package upgrade won't work?
[17:30] <smoser> just as upstream
[17:30] <smoser> would be better for upstream to handle it
[17:36] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, but if you can do a good job in packaging, i think i'm ok to take it.
[20:56] <cbolt> does runcmd happen before scripts-user?
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-nz
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[03:39] <olly_> hmm, hail
[03:39] <olly_> and sunshine
[03:39] <olly_> at the same time
[18:16] <ibeardslee> morning
[22:31] <olly_> morning
[23:10] <hads> Morning. What a morning it was.
[23:36] <ibeardslee> all back now I see
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-meeting
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[02:10] <Celero> kien de puerto l cru
[15:59] <cyphermox> o/
[15:59] <pitti> \o
[16:00] <sil2100> o/
[16:00] * slangasek waves
[16:00] <infinity> \o
[16:00] <cyphermox> should we list tasks since the last meeting or just this week?
[16:00] <tdaitx> o/
[16:01] <sil2100> I was just listing tasks from this week
[16:01] * bdmurray just has all of them
[16:02] <infinity> Mine's like two lines long. :P
[16:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 12 16:02:06 2015 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:02] <sil2100> Yay, so mine won't be the shortest one then
[16:02] <sil2100> Yay for infinity
[16:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx)
[16:02] <slangasek> infinity doko slangasek bdmurray sil2100 cyphermox barry tdaitx robru pitti caribou
[16:03] <cyphermox> - been feeling like crap with a headache for a couple of days now
[16:03] <cyphermox> - shim/grub work for enforcing kernel signatures
[16:03] <cyphermox> - discussed details for shim's validation with slangasek, pjones
[16:03] <cyphermox> - teaching ubuntu-drivers, software-properties and ubiquity about mokutil.
[16:03] <cyphermox> - sponsored network-manager, modemmanager
[16:03] <cyphermox> - partman-ext3 blocking ubiquity waiting for input bug LP: #1361951
[16:03] <cyphermox> (done)
[16:03] <infinity> Very, very short week (plus sprint):
[16:03] <infinity> - s390x porting and bootstrapping
[16:03] <infinity> - emergency security kernels
[16:03] <infinity> - expedited cloud-init SRUs
[16:03] <infinity> (done)
[16:04] <doko> - sprint, and going back
[16:04] <doko> - chasing binutils regressions
[16:04] <doko> - looking at GCC 5 linaro regressions
[16:04] <doko> - merges
[16:04] <doko> (done)
[16:05] <bdmurray> slangasek: ?
[16:05] <slangasek> * short week, national holiday
[16:05] <slangasek> * merges, archive work, and +1 maintenance to try to unblock the mass library transition
[16:05] <slangasek> * secureboot policy discussions
[16:05] <slangasek> * POWER8 hardware shuffling
[16:05] <slangasek> bdmurray:
[16:05] <slangasek> * zSeries bring-up discussions
[16:05] <slangasek> (done)
[16:05] <slangasek> :)
[16:05] <bdmurray> discovered and fixed a bug with apport finding -dbg packages
[16:05] <bdmurray> researched into how retraces would fail w/ said apport bug
[16:05] <bdmurray> T, V SRU verification of apport LP: #1512902
[16:05] <bdmurray> reported, fixed apport sending corrupt crash files to errors (LP: #1512902)
[16:05] <bdmurray> modified duplicate signature for apport-package bugs to be more informative
[16:06] <bdmurray> SRU verified distro-info-data for Precise, Trusty and Vivid
[16:06] <bdmurray> uploaded SRU for and added a test case to whoopsie LP: #1382233
[16:06] <bdmurray> confirmed UnreportableReason is being added for Xenial crashes
[16:06] <bdmurray> reported and researched ubuntu-release-upgrader bug LP: #1511783
[16:06] <bdmurray> uploaded fix for LP: #1511831 to wily
[16:06] <bdmurray> worked with pitti / ccoulson re not reporting /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container crashes
[16:06] <bdmurray> research into quantity of bug reporters using persistence
[16:06] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:06] <sil2100> - Really short week: swap day on Monday, sick on Tuesday, national holiday on Wednesday
[16:06] <slangasek> infinity: gasp, that was three lines
[16:06] <sil2100> - OTA-8 coordination, landing freezes and preparations
[16:06] <sil2100> - system-image:
[16:06] <sil2100> * Fixed some issues in the image tag branch as per barry's review
[16:06] <sil2100> * Prepared quick arch addition for raspi2 and plano
[16:06] <infinity> slangasek: Counting isn't my stong suit.
[16:06] <sil2100> * Additional work on the new script framework
[16:06] <sil2100> - +1-maintenance:
[16:06] <sil2100> * Finished up the bug for ocaml transition finish
[16:06] <sil2100> * Look into the remaining failures on the transition list
[16:06] <sil2100> (done)
[16:06] <barry> recoverying from sprintitis
[16:07] <barry> debian bug #804319; python3-openid 3.0.9-1; pyflakes 1.0.0-4; zope.i18n 4.1.0-1
[16:07] <barry> reviewed various sil2100 si server branches
[16:07] <barry> LP: #1512323; LP: #1386302
[16:07] <barry> --done--
[16:07] <tdaitx> Short week: resting on Monday
[16:07] <tdaitx> Current/Past
[16:07] <tdaitx> - Sprint! Yay!
[16:07] <tdaitx> - Creating packages for TCK data and service setup; will complement with charms for runtime setup
[16:07] <tdaitx> - Testing LP: #1512760 fix
[16:07] <tdaitx> - Discussion and research into apache-commons/xalan/openjdk de-serialization vulnerabilities
[16:07] <tdaitx> - Trying to reproduce LP: #1497816 (might need unity, no problem in i3)
[16:07] <tdaitx> Next steps
[16:07] <tdaitx> - continue working on TCK packaging and charms
[16:07] <tdaitx> - figure out the right firewall settings for the porterbox charm
[16:07] <tdaitx> - work on joda-time and freeipmi merges, then move to squid3
[16:07] <tdaitx> - verify OpenJDK 6 TLS patch (LP: #1482924)
[16:07] <tdaitx> Waiting/On hold
[16:07] <tdaitx> - waiting OCA to submit webrevs for 7093640 backport (set TLS 1.1 as default for JDK 6 and TLS 1.2 as default for JDK 7); not blocking anything for now, just waiting
[16:07] <tdaitx> Extra
[16:07] <tdaitx> - moving to new SSD, EFI snafu required some hustling but it is working somehow; setting up stuff to look good... err... not tiny on wqhd display
[16:07] <tdaitx> (done)
[16:08] <cyphermox> oh, you said the three letter word
[16:08] * pitti prods robru
[16:09] * pitti declares timeout and jumps the queue
[16:09] <pitti> autopkgtest:
[16:09] <pitti> - rework to only install selected packages from -proposed, and fix some fallout (#1503150)
[16:09] <pitti> - detect apt-get DNS/download errors and retry/tmpfail on those instead of failing the test
[16:09] <pitti> - robustify handling of tmpfails in the workers
[16:09] <pitti> - update documentation on the wiki
[16:09] <pitti> - in progress: create script to run britney locally, for robru's bileto integration
[16:09] <pitti> misc:
[16:09] <pitti> - lots of -proposed cleanup and maintenance, catching up after sprint
[16:09] <pitti> - write https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/TestClassesSpec for introducing testing on real hw and improving kernel testing
[16:09] <pitti> - learn about lxd, some experiments how we could set up armhf testing in scalingstack
[16:09] <pitti> - some systemd debugging and fixing
[16:09] <pitti> [imagine fancy "done" UTF-8 char here]
[16:10] <caribou> robru: want to recover your spot ?
[16:10] <tdaitx> cyphermox, wait, was that me? what 3 letter word?
[16:10] <slangasek> caribou: go ahead
[16:10] <infinity> tdaitx: EFI.
[16:10] <slangasek> caribou: "EFI" :)
[16:11] <tdaitx> lol
[16:11] <slangasek> er tdaitx, yes
[16:11] <caribou> Short week due to time off & civil holiday
[16:11] <caribou> Bugfix :
[16:11] <caribou> - Precise SAN/LVM boot hang Testing Trusty's backport to Precise
[16:11] <caribou> Xenial upgrade :
[16:11] <caribou> - Issue caused by missing kernel-image-extra-4.2.0.18-generic package Missing package is being uploaded
[16:11] <caribou> (done)
[16:11] <chiluk> o/ I'll even give an update today.
[16:11] <chiluk> Waiting for upload approval, and then SRU approval for trusty coreutils for (LP: 1432871)
[16:11] <chiluk> nfsutils is in proposed and has been verified. (LP: 1509120)
[16:11] <chiluk> Working a separate major backport for findutils (LP: 1347788)
[16:11] <chiluk> Doing some snappy education.
[16:12] <chiluk> Looking forward to being voted on for Contributing Dev.
[16:12] <chiluk> --done--
[16:12] <slangasek> robru: around?
[16:13] <cyphermox> chiluk: my rubber stamp is ready.
[16:13] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:14] <infinity> cyphermox: Man, you should at least hear him out before you break out the "no" stamp.
[16:14] <slangasek> ok then, anything else today?
[16:14] <chiluk> thank you cyphermox but I prefer gold stars
[16:14] <cyphermox> chiluk: robot pieces?
[16:14] <infinity> slangasek: Next sprint!
[16:14] <cyphermox> slangasek: no AOB from me
[16:14] <infinity> Plan early, plan often.
[16:14] <slangasek> infinity: a bit of planning has begun
[16:15] <infinity> slangasek: With Leann & Co, or solo?
[16:15] <cyphermox> isn't the next sprint in YUL?
[16:15] <slangasek> infinity: & Co
[16:15] <infinity> slangasek: Shiny.
[16:15] <tdaitx> slangasek, in case we are having it around here, let me know if I can help somehow
[16:15] <barry> dates asap of course :)
[16:15] <infinity> tdaitx: If "around here" is London, I suspect you might get your wish.
[16:16] <slangasek> tdaitx: as much as I'd like to, I think I might have a mutiny on my hands if we actually did it there :)
[16:16] <slangasek> but if you have a venue in mind...
[16:16] <tdaitx> mutiny? from this crew?
[16:16] <barry> slangasek: i hear hawaii has wifi
[16:17] <pitti> slangasek: we did have UBZ there (ubuntu below zero), not much mutiny then
[16:17] <pitti> barry: I don't understand
[16:17] <cyphermox> pitti: different there.
[16:17] <pitti> barry: who needs wifi when he's got Hawaii?
[16:17] <slangasek> pitti: that was when everyone was young and the airlines hadn't found ways to claw back 3cm of legroom from all passengers
[16:17] <infinity> pitti: tdaitx is in Brazil, not Montreal. :P
[16:17] <slangasek> ah yes, was talking about Brazil also :)
[16:17] <slangasek> (so, more like UDU)
[16:17] <pitti> oh, sorry, I saw YUL, but that was cyphermox
[16:18] <slangasek> alrighty
[16:18] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:18] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov 12 16:18:10 2015 UTC.
[16:18] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-12-16.02.moin.txt
[16:18] <slangasek> thanks!
[16:18] <caribou> thanks!
[16:18] <barry> thanks!
[16:18] <cyphermox> thanks
[16:18] <sil2100> Thanks!
[16:18] <infinity> UDU was good, but I only flew 45m to get there, so my opinion might be skewed.
[16:18] <tdaitx> thank you all!
[16:18] <pitti> cheers
[16:18] <dholbach> UDU! :)
[16:18] <chiluk> thanks ;*
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.591432
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-tn
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[16:56] <Na3iL> o/
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.592892
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-gnome
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[03:23] <johnjohn101> hi gnomers
[03:24] <johnjohn101> is it safe to do this in wily? http://askubuntu.com/questions/678141/how-can-i-update-my-gnome-to-gnome-3-18
[07:14] <mgedmin> well, I did it, and my computer didn't explode
[07:30] <mgedmin> so, um, why do I see four llvmpipe processes in my process tree?
[07:30] <mgedmin> specifically, the gdm wayland session (used for the login screen, I presume) runs Xwayland, which runs llvmpipe-{0,1,2,3}?
[07:30] <mgedmin> those are probably threads, tbh
[07:31] <mgedmin> pstree shows them in {brackets}
[07:36] <darkxst> mgedmin, there is no Xwayland in the login screen
[07:36] <mgedmin> hmm
[07:37] <mgedmin> it's running as user 'gdm': http://paste.ubuntu.com/13236747/
[07:44] <darkxst> mgedmin, odd, I though they fixed mutter a while back for that
[07:52] <mgedmin> I tried wayland the other day
[07:52] <mgedmin> turns out I cannot live without middle-click paste :(
[07:52] <mgedmin> s/live/work/
[16:59] <Sicnus> this looks bad: The link /vmlinuz.old is a damaged link Removing symbolic link vmlinuz.old you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub] The link /initrd.img.old is a damaged link Removing symbolic link initrd.img.old you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[17:00] <Sicnus> The program 'grub' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: apt-get install grub odd. :/
[17:13] <Sicnus> how can I insure my system will boot? I've run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it comes back clean. :/
[17:20] <ricotz> Sicnus, make sure grub-pc is installed
[17:25] <Sicnus> ricotz, k...
[17:26] <Sicnus> ricotz, danke
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.595943
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-server
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[00:00] <teward> is there an easy way to let my user run `sudo service bind9 restart` or `sudo service bind9 *` without having to enter my password?
[00:00] <teward> (where the * indicates any directive that would be passed to the init scripts)
[00:01] <teward> init.d scripts*
[00:22] <RoyK> teward: visudo - add NOPASSWD for those commands you don't want to enter a password
[00:22] <teward> RoyK: including the arguments?
[00:22] <teward> (such as the arguments given to 'service')
[00:29] <RoyK> teward: see the manual
[01:11] <repozitor> i have successfully setup mail server, by this tutorial
[01:11] <repozitor> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html
[01:11] <repozitor> now i don't know how to login to mail account, using thunderbird!!!!
[01:11] <repozitor> any idea?
[01:24] <AvatarA> if you want to also send mail from that server your difficulties have only just begun
[01:24] <repozitor> AvatarA, so is there exist any tutorial?
[01:25] <AvatarA> very few good ones but you need to understand what is happening if you want to be able to tweak and fix things
[01:26] <repozitor> AvatarA, just show me a proper url, please.
[01:28] <AvatarA> https://scaron.info/blog/debian-mail-postfix-dovecot.html
[01:28] <AvatarA> also see the follow up on SPF and DKIM if you want to send mail without it ending up filtered in spam or just refused
[01:29] <AvatarA> also search google for PTR records
[01:29] <repozitor> i know how to setup ptr
[01:40] <patdk-lap> do you have a /24?
[01:40] <patdk-lap> if not, ask your isp
[05:50] <caliculk> Hello, I seem to be having issues with a Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS instance. It seems to randomly shut off, there is no reason being as to why in syslog. I have ran memtest, fsck, and spinrite on the primary drives.
[05:50] <caliculk> I would really appreciate any help in trying to narrow down the problem. The most recent thing I did before it seemed to crash was to delete an ipset rule and then run a script to update it with the latest IPs, but I have done that before and it doesn't crash, so I don't think that was the contributing factor to the machine crashing.
[09:44] <rbasak> teward: sounds perfectly reasonable.
[09:49] <Raj009> Hi! How can I check the encryption method used for a partition? Basically I want to know if a passphrase is used or random key is used for encryption.
[09:58] <TJ-> Raj009: if a random key is used that implies the encrypted partition won't be accessible after a reboot
[09:59] <Raj009> I intended to use random key for my swap. But not sure which partition I chose - whether root or swap.
[10:00] <Raj009> So can I assume that if I had used random key on root, I wouldn't be able to boot at all?
[10:00] <TJ-> Raj009: did you do the encrpytion config manaully or via the installer? if it was automated the config will be in /etc/crypttab
[10:00] <Raj009> it was done via the installer, but I did not use the guided paritioning - instead I chose the manual parititioning
[10:01] <TJ-> cryptswap usually uses /dev/random to generate a one-time key, and that would be in the 'key-file' column of /etc/crypttab
[10:09] <Raj009> thanks @TJ.. I will check this file.
[10:13] <jamespage> coreycb, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer/+bug/1515409
[10:37] <jamespage> coreycb, we probably need to consider how we deal with that - both ceilometerclient and neutronclient have minor version bumped on stable/kilo branches; the problem is that all of our stock testing passes just fine - until someone touches an edge case like that we don't see this type of problem.
[12:58] <coreycb> jamespage, great
[12:59] <coreycb> jamespage, I'm not sure what we can do other than picking up new releases
[12:59] <coreycb> jamespage, I suppose we might be able to get away with patching requirements.txt
[13:15] <pmatulis> morning
[15:59] <ayr-ton> If I use bind9 geo dns features, placing different IPs for each region, users around the globe will ask records from my DNS servers everytime? Or the DNS servers around the globe would cache this information according to my lease time?
[16:04] <patdk-wk> cache
[16:05] <patdk-wk> why would dns servers not process dns traffic correctly?
[16:05] <patdk-wk> though, you should perfer the infomation to be cached, unless your attempt to do some kind of failover usage
[16:06] <patdk-wk> and the geo dns feature does not work very well
[16:06] <patdk-wk> it only works if the user and the dns server they are using, are closely located
[16:10] <ayr-ton> patdk-wk: Do you have some documentation for this? About this behaviour?
[16:10] <ayr-ton> showing that doesn't work well if the dns server are not close?
[16:10] <ayr-ton> Or why the feature doesn't work very well?
[16:18] <patdk-wk> heh? documentation?
[16:18] <patdk-wk> what more documentation about this behavure do you need than the dns rfc from like 30 years ago
[16:19] <patdk-wk> your dns server ONLY sees the location of the requesting dns server
[16:19] <patdk-wk> you have no idea where the client is
[16:19] <patdk-wk> how can you possibly geoip a client correctly, assuming your geoip tables are accurate if you have no idea where it is?
[16:19] <patdk-wk> you can assume the client and the dns server it is using is close, but there is no way to know
[16:20] <patdk-wk> if this worked, and worked well, no one would bother attempting to do anycasted services
[16:20] <patdk-wk> anycasted dns will work better then geoip dns, but still have some of the issues
[16:20] <patdk-wk> if you attempting to route traffic
[18:46] <hallyn> smb`: bug 1465935, there isn't a testcase (no sru justification at all) in description?
[19:15] <hallyn> arges: d'oh! i am so far behind. I didn't realize you had already merged libvirt from unstable in wily!
[19:15] <hallyn> i assume zul wasn't as ignorant as i..
[19:15] <hallyn> so i will not do a upstream merge, that would be a step backwrad.
[19:15] <hallyn> thanks for that!
[19:26] <arges> hallyn: yea did it for wily not x
[19:29] <hallyn> arges: ? it says wily in changelog
[19:30] <hallyn> 1.2.16-2ubuntu2) wily;
[19:42] <arges> hallyn: sorry just agreeing with your earlier statement
[19:51] <hallyn> doh, misread
[19:52] <kgirthofer_> can I grep by color?
[19:52] <kgirthofer_> i.e. grep things that are shown in red
[19:57] <sarnold> kgirthofer_: it'll be a little difficult, there's multiple ways to express 'red' in ansi color escapes
[19:57] <kgirthofer_> ah ok
[19:57] <kgirthofer_> makes sense
[19:58] <sarnold> kgirthofer_: try this: grep "\e[31"
[19:58] <sarnold> (I stole the thing from http://misc.flogisoft.com/bash/tip_colors_and_formatting )
[20:00] <sarnold> if that doesn't work, it might be because of the <esc> encoding.. ^V<esc> should insert a raw escape into a command line, so something like grep ^V<esc>[31 ought to do it too, but that probably can't be copy-pasted, is hard to work into scripts, etc.
[21:57] <bryn__> I keep getting permission denied everywhere on my server. From opening text files to creating a directory. How do I change to permissions so that I can access the whole project file on the server?
[22:08] <keithzg> bryn__: If it's just a specific folder, you can always go "sudo chmod -R go+rw foldername". That will change it so that all members of the owning group (hence "g") and also *all other users anyways* (that's the "o") gain ("+") read and write ("rw") permission to that folder, and all its contents recursively ("-R").
[22:09] <keithzg> Be *very careful* with this though because you're making it so that any user can write to any file in that hierarchy.
[22:09] <bryn__> Hey, thanks for the reply, can you check this: http://pastebin.com/uij4YWGa
[22:10] <keithzg> bryn__: Looks like your sudoers file is messed up. Did you try and change it at some point?
[22:10] <ikonia> I suspect it's more than the sudoers file
[22:10] <ikonia> based on what he's saying in #ubuntu
[22:10] <bryn__> Over 100 people working on this server, most likely.
[22:11] <ikonia> bryn__: talk to your systems administrator
[22:11] <keithzg> ikonia: Fair enough, not on #ubuntu right now; I'll bow out then :)
[22:11] <bryn__> I am the sysadmin
[22:11] <ikonia> there is a lot of information not being shared
[22:11] <ikonia> bryn__: impossible
[22:11] <ikonia> bryn__: hire a professional system to recover this server properly
[22:11] <bryn__> I prefer Google
[22:12] <ikonia> and thats why your server is broke
[22:12] <ikonia> and why you don't know how to change file system permissions
[22:12] <bryn__> I'm learning
[22:12] <ikonia> clearly not
[22:12] <bryn__> learning through failure
[22:12] <keithzg> Yeah frankly if you're the sysadmin of a server with over 100 users and you don't know something as basic as that, you need to hand the keys to the kingdom over to someone else until you learn a LOT more.
[22:12] <ikonia> I suspect your server will have problems that will start to grow with time as more files in /etc are parsed
[22:13] <keithzg> Play around with a VM first, with snapshots you can revert to when you screw up, if you're determined to learn by breaking things
[22:14] <bryn__> I'm trying this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1772599
[22:14] <ikonia> do not try anything else
[22:14] <ikonia> you will make things a lot worse and potentially stop 100 people
[22:14] <ikonia> contact/hire a professional sysadmin for a recovery / re-install with data transfer job
[22:15] <bryn__> I call you
[22:15] <ikonia> no
[22:16] <bryn__> it worked now, using that link
[22:16] <ikonia> as I said, based on what you've said, I suspect a lot more has been changed in /etc
[22:16] <ikonia> and your server will have more problems
[22:17] <bryn__> Perhaps
[22:17] * keithzg figures bryn__ is just trolling at this point
[22:17] <ikonia> I also don't think you're being honest
[22:17] <bryn__> about?
[22:17] <ikonia> as gksu woudn't be on your distro or present on a server install
[22:18] <bryn__> I installed it. The permissions like good for now.
[22:18] <keithzg> ikonia: Eh, now *that* I wouldn't be so sure of. Anyone who'd hire this guy as a sysadmin---if we believe that part---may well install a desktop version of Ubuntu!
[22:18] <ikonia> he couldn't use sudo - but he managed to install gksu
[22:18] <keithzg> Yeah, I'll definitely agree things weren't adding up.
[22:19] <ikonia> the whole thing in #ubuntu was miss-direction
[22:23] <bryn__> Someone remove admin rights from Ikonia he is trolling and banning me for no reason.
[22:23] <bryn__> This is completely unfair
[22:23] <bekks> bryn__: *plonk*
[22:24] <bryn__> Im having technical issues and because im learning and new to this stuff he kicks me.
[22:24] <ikonia> I'll remove the ban on you
[22:24] <bryn__> Everyone starts somewhere buddy. What is wrong with you?
[22:25] <ikonia> I don't believe you are being honest
[22:25] <ikonia> win 7
[22:25] <ikonia> I don't have a problem with everyone starting somewhere
[22:25] <bryn__> I am being as honest as possible and you were right. I just tested sudo and it did not work, i was under the assumption i was using sudo but I did not check again.
[22:26] <ikonia> and it did not work
[22:26] <ikonia> you said a minute ago it did work
[22:26] <ikonia> funny that
[22:26] <ikonia> and you said you installed gksu using sudo
[22:26] <bryn__> I thought I had because i was able to access some files, but they were outside the "etc"
[22:26] <ikonia> how did you install gksu without sudo
[22:27] <bryn__> I thought I had, sorry.
[22:27] <ikonia> no you didn't think you had
[22:27] <ikonia> as if you type gksu and it's not there it will tell you it's not there
[22:27] <ikonia> you said you tried that ubuntu thread, install gksu - ran the command and it worked
[22:28] <ikonia> what's really going on here ?
[22:28] <bryn__> I just told you I thought i had, but you are right now that I try it it says that UI error.
[22:28] <ikonia> how did you think you had installed it
[22:28] <ikonia> what command did you use to install it ?
[22:29] <keithzg> bryn__: If you really are the sysadmin of this, to even start to fix things you'll be best off rebooting the system into recovery mode. If you aren't able to do that, then frankly you clearly don't have valid access to the machine in question...
[22:29] <bryn__> I'm in a rush and trying to solve this ASAP, i clearly missed it, and proceeded with the other stuff.
[22:29] <bryn__> I tried this: sudo apt-get install gksu
[22:29] <ikonia> bryn__: so that command would have errored
[22:29] <ikonia> so thats problem one
[22:30] <ikonia> the second command you run to launch gksu
[22:30] <ikonia> "gksu" would have complained that the command wasn't there
[22:30] <ikonia> so how did you tell me you had installed gksu, ran the command in the forum post and it had worked
[22:30] <ikonia> when a.) it's clear gksu did not install b.) it's clear gksu did not work as it wasn't installed
[22:31] <ikonia> I strongly suggest you hire someone to get your system in a production state, then take some lessons on the basics of learning linux,
[22:31] <bryn__> The only option is a server reset, yeah?
[22:32] <ikonia> I'll leave you to your own work as I'm not comfortable that you are telling the truth
[22:32] <bryn__> Could you unban me from the Ubuntu please
[22:32] <ikonia> you are
[22:32] <ikonia> although I'd suggest you keep it in this channel
[22:32] <ikonia> as this is the channel for server discussion
[22:33] <bryn__> Thanks, yeah - I will. Thanks for your feedback also, but a little harsh on that previous ban.
[22:33] <ikonia> possibly
[22:33] <ikonia> but as I said, I don't believe you are being honest
[22:33] <bekks> I guess the /etc/sudoers not being owned by UID 0 is a clear sign of a totally broken system.
[22:34] <bryn__> I believe it is
[22:34] <bryn__> I will my a** kicked tomorrow
[22:34] <sarnold> hint: _always_ use visudo when you're modifying the /etc/sudoers file. infact forget the name entirely, pretend the only way to work with the file is via visudo.
[22:35] <bekks> bryn__: Soyou messed up the server like that?
[22:35] <bryn__> I tried changing permissions for a directory and ended up getting UID 0 error.
[22:36] <bekks> So what was the command you issued?
[22:36] <bryn__> sudo chown -R jesus: /var/www
[22:36] <bekks> That command will not touch /etc/sudoers
[22:37] <bryn__> Yeah that, and other that touched the whole server directory
[22:37] <bekks> Which other command?
[22:38] <bryn__> Don't remember exactly, but sudo chown -R jesus: /jesus
[22:38] <bekks> That command will not touch /etc/sudoers either.
[22:38] <bryn__> etc is within "jesus"
[22:38] <bekks> No.
[22:39] <bekks> /etc/sudoers is clearly outside of /jesus
[22:39] <sarnold> did you symlink /etc to someplace within /jesus???
[22:39] <ikonia> you can't symlink etc
[22:39] <ikonia> the machine won't boot
[22:39] <sarnold> or .. mistype the command sudo chown -R jesus: / jesus perhaps?
[22:39] <sarnold> sure, but it'll keep running "fine"
[22:39] <bekks> ikonia: you could create a symlink TO /etc/sudoers in /jesus
[22:39] <ikonia> bekks: that is fair
[22:39] <bryn__> "jesus" is the root. Its the "/" where everything exists within
[22:39] <Jordan_U> bryn__: Please pastebin the output of "history | grep chown", which should tell us all of the commands you have run (at least within this particular shell session) that include "chown" in them.
[22:40] <bekks> bryn__: / is the root.
[22:40] <ikonia> jesus is not the root
[22:40] <bekks> bryn__: /jesus is a directory under /
[22:40] <bryn__> Yeah I didn't remember exact, I thought jesus was root
[22:41] <bryn__> Now I recall I did do sudo ... /
[22:41] <ikonia> your a sysadmin on a server with 100+ users and you don't know where the root file system is
[22:41] <ikonia> this is a huge concern
[22:41] <bryn__> I feel the same
[22:41] <bekks> Its quite unresponsible of his boss.
[22:41] <ikonia> I don't believe it to be honest
[22:41] <bekks> me neither.
[22:42] <bekks> And we stell got no pastebin of "history | grep chown".
[22:42] <bryn__> It isn't a "business" so its nothing to seriously worry about.
[22:42] <sarnold> ikonia: I dunno, seems about average experience level of the usual "I want to set up a minecraft server" admin :)
[22:43] <patdk-lap> I want to setup a wordpress server
[22:44] <bryn__> bekks I did history | grep chow
[22:44] <bekks> bryn__: Pastebin it.
[22:46] <bekks> bryn__: Do not pm that to me. Pastebin it and provide the URL to your pastebin.
[22:46] <bryn__> Honestly, I did the command, but can't see any list of commands used.
[22:47] <bekks> Pastebin the output.
[22:47] <bryn__> sure
[22:47] <patdk-lap> !pastebin
[22:47] <bryn__> http://pastebin.com/W2D8wueW
[22:47] <bekks> Why do we have to ask you 5 times for getting a pastebin.
[22:48] <ikonia> why is the sudo command for the install of gksu not there
[22:48] <ikonia> or the running of gksu ?
[22:48] <bekks> Because he is not honest.
[22:49] <bryn__> idk
[22:49] <bekks> I am out of this issue.
[22:49] <ikonia> you'd see the history command too
[22:49] <bryn__> It doesn't matter though, since sudo isnt installed. It wouldn't work
[22:49] <ikonia> the fact tha tthe lines jump from 109 to 121 shows it's being edited
[22:50] <ikonia> bryn__: it does matter
[22:50] <ikonia> as it's something you said you did
[22:50] <ikonia> and yet for some reason it's not logging commands
[22:50] <ikonia> just 2 commands with random numbers
[22:50] <sarnold> bryn__: sudo _is_ installed, you just broke it with something you did.
[22:51] <ikonia> bryn__: did you edit the pastebin to not show all commands ?
[22:51] <bryn__> I am very new to this. I am not sure what I am looking at in terms of commands and such with terminals.
[22:51] <bryn__> That's the exact copy paste
[22:51] <ikonia> bryn__: did you edit the pastebin ?
[22:51] <bryn__> No
[22:51] <bryn__> Why?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> ikonia: It's expected that the number as part of the history would jump. I asked them to use grep, which will filter out other commands with other numbers.
[22:52] <ikonia> so your history starts at 109, rahter than 0, misses out 110-120 and shows 121
[22:52] <ikonia> Jordan_U: idiot - I missed the grep, thank you
[22:52] <sarnold> because the two spaces in front of '121' got there _somehow_, and the easiest explanation is that you fiddled with the output..
[22:52] <bryn__> I didn't fiddle with the output nor do I have ambitions to do so
[22:52] <Jordan_U> ikonia: You're welcome.
[22:52] <ikonia> Jordan_U: my fault toally, good spot
[22:53] <bryn__> What grep?
[22:53] <bekks> the one you typed.
[22:53] <ikonia> it filters results
[22:53] <bryn__> Yeah
[22:54] <Jordan_U> Unfortunately without histappend (which I think should be the default in bash, or at least some better solution) we can't be sure that all commands (even recent ones) are reflected in the history.
[22:54] <ikonia> certainly default on an ubuntu install
[22:55] <patdk-lap> not on any of my installs using ubuntu defaults
[22:55] <bryn__> I'm just going to reset the server tomorrow. But I have a question, I shoudn't get permission errors on a fresh install right?
[22:55] <ikonia> patdk-lap: got it on a 14.04 install here
[22:55] <patdk-lap> none of mine, but then I only do jeos installs
[22:55] <sarnold> bryn__: it depends what operations you're trying to perform.
[22:56] <bryn__> creating new directories in the var/www and editing etc/couchdb
[22:56] <Jordan_U> bryn__: By "reset" do you mean re-install, restore from backup, or something else?
[22:57] <bryn__> I have a snapshot
[22:57] <ikonia> how did you snapshot ?
[22:57] <bekks> Snapshot? Isnt that a physical server?
[22:57] <bryn__> Yes
[22:58] <bekks> So it is a virtual machine?
[22:58] <bryn__> I don't know
[22:58] <bekks> Then how did you snapshot?
[22:58] <thebwt> lvm snapshot?
[22:58] <bryn__> A colleague is taking care of that part
[22:58] <bryn__> So I have no clue
[22:59] <Jordan_U> bryn__: Is that colleague also taking care of restoring based on that snapshot?
[22:59] <bryn__> Yes
[22:59] <Jordan_U> Great.
[22:59] <bekks> So get your hands off that machine and leave the rest to him :)
[23:00] <bryn__> He's like me :)
[23:00] <bekks> Then hire someone who isnt.
[23:00] <bryn__> Yeah
[23:01] <bryn__> But we don't want any help from hiring people,
[23:02] <bryn__> Since its a fiddle n' diddle thing
[23:04] <bekks> So he broke the production server, and knows he'll have to tell his boss, very soon.
[23:05] <sarnold> definitely the kinds of learning mistakes best made on a personal system :)
[23:06] <ikonia> sorry but I don't believe almost any of it
[23:06] <bekks> I'm just sure he broke something :)
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[03:46] <fginther> michi, can you provide the branch or job that was giving you problems? I want to make sure I get the right branch updated.
[03:46] <michi> fginther: Sorry, no.
[03:47] <michi> Basically, I found a bug in abi-compliance-checker yesterday.
[03:47] <michi> We need to change the way we dump ABI
[03:47] <michi> using abi-dumper
[03:47] <michi> But Wily has a version of that that is too old.
[03:47] <michi> I could have a branch by tomorrow, I think.
[03:48] <michi> But, basically, all we need is for unity-scopes-api to build for vivid+overlay and xenial, instead of vivid+overlay and wily
[03:56] <fginther> michi, I'm getting lp:unity-scopes-api/devel updated now, all the others should already be good to go for you
[03:56] <michi> Awesome, thank you very much!
[04:01] <michi> fginther: there is a very half-baked branch in silo 48 at the moment, for what it’s worth.
[05:41] <Mirv> renatu: sure
[08:14] <pstolowski> hey trainguards, looks like i hit gcc5 bug on ppc64el in the silo https://launchpadlibrarian.net/225718029/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-ppc64el.unity-scopes-shell_0.5.6%2B16.04.20151110.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz , only on xenial
[08:14] <pstolowski> was there any gcc5 update recently in X?
[08:21] <pstolowski> anyway, opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-5/+bug/1515514
[08:33] <Mirv> pstolowski: thanks for opening the bug! doko will look at it probably soon.
[08:40] <pstolowski> Mirv, yw. i hope we can just revert to a previous gcc5 version for now if this is a problem with a minor update
[08:41] <Mirv> pstolowski: that said, I don't see a new gcc5 version in November
[08:42] <Mirv> last one was 2015-10-29
[08:42] <pstolowski> interesting
[08:48] <pstolowski> Mirv, could very well be some other updated of a dependency that triggered it
[08:48] <pstolowski> Mirv, e.g. /usr/include/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/qt5/QtTest/qtesteventloop.h:48:24: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[08:49] <Mirv> pstolowski: seems random, my ppc64el rebuild in your PPA worked. let the bug be there but it seems it's not constant. so just run watch_only build now.
[08:51] <pstolowski> Mirv, okay. it's a bit concerning though..
[10:48] <sil2100> jibel: so, seeing the e-mails... do we have everything we need in the overlay now?
[11:10] <jibel> sil2100, we still need a fix for bug 1515356
[11:11] <sil2100> jibel: you prefer to wait for it with gates closed, or should I snapshot now and we cherry pick once there's something releasable?
[11:11] <jibel> sil2100, as you prefer, you do the copies
[11:12] <sil2100> I'll maybe do the snapshot in a moment then
[11:12] <jibel> sil2100, we won't resume silo landing now anyway
[11:12] <jibel> sil2100, we are a bit late on regression
[11:12] <jibel> regression testing I mean
[12:44] <jgdx> rvr, pong
[12:44] <rvr> jgdx: I don't remember now :)
[12:45] <jgdx> rvr, any time
[12:50] <victorp> sil2100, hi
[12:53] <sil2100> victorp: hey
[12:53] <victorp> sil2100, quick q
[12:53] <victorp> ota8 is going according to plan re: schedule?
[12:53] <sil2100> victorp: well... not entirely
[12:54] <sil2100> victorp: we're a bit late on the regression testing right now as there were regressions spotted, so testing might be delayed slightly
[12:54] <sil2100> Yesterday's holiday for many people also didn't help here
[12:55] <victorp> sil2100, ok, but are talking a day or so?
[12:55] <sil2100> Won't be a huge delay though, but I think we should prepare ourselves for a day/two of a delay
[13:22] <brendand> bzoltan_, the crash is a known issue in testtools it seems, although hard to track down as it only happens occasionally to people
[13:23] <brendand> bzoltan_, we are going to make a version of autopilot which will gather some extra info to pinpoint the problem
[13:23] <greyback> trainguards: hi, qtmir is stuck in proposed due to an armhf compile fail against the rest of xenial -proposed. I've a fix for the compile fail ready. How can I proceed? Kick package out of -proposed and re-do the landing just for xenial?
[14:08] <Mirv> greyback: right, if you don't want to land anything now to vivid (understandable because of the freeze), I'd merge&clean the current landing and do a xenial only one time landing to fix the armhf issue. and thanks, I thought the qtmir bug was Qt 5.5 related but it seems it was generic xenial!
[14:31] <greyback> Mirv: train doesn't allow me to force a Merge & clean. Can you do that, and I'll set up the xenial-only silo?
[14:42] <pstolowski> hello trainguards, may i ask for removing any remains of unity-scope-click from silo 8 & its ppa? i once added u-s-click MP to it but then removed it
[14:44] <kgunn> AlbertA: are we stuck on xenial ppc ?
[14:52] <kgunn> robru: hey, what are our options to get silo 18 published ?
[14:53] <kgunn> i'm bumping up against that silo being needed for biz/prodmgmt folks
[14:53] <kgunn> robru: can we publish with followup on disabling that one test for ppc on xenial? or are we going to have to disable and rebuild first ?
[14:59] <bzoltan_> brendand: Good news... in the meantime I have started to reduce the failures in the UITK to ease the pressure on the testtols
[15:09] <kgunn> trainguards could we get a xenial ppc64el only rebuild attempt on silo18 ?
[15:17] <sil2100> o/
[15:17] <sil2100> pstolowski, kgunn: on both of your requests in a minute
[15:18] <pstolowski> sil2100, k, thanks
[15:22] <kgunn> np
[15:23] <Mirv> greyback: done, go ahead with xenial
[15:23] <greyback> Mirv: thanks
[15:28] <cjwatson> kgunn: I've retried that for you
[15:29] <brendand> bzoltan_, always a good idea :)
[15:43] <sil2100> pstolowski: packages removed
[15:44] <pstolowski> sil2100, thanks. but https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/506 still says unity-scope-click in source package names, is it ok?
[15:44] <pstolowski> sil2100, i tried to edit it before, but it was coming back
[15:45] <sil2100> pstolowski: try doing a watch_only build later, it shouldn't appear anymore as it's not in the PPA
[15:45] <pstolowski> sil2100, ah, ok. thanks!
[16:12] <kgunn> trainguards hooray, can someone now publish ? ^
[16:12] <sil2100> kgunn: 18? :)
[16:13] <AlbertA> sil2100: yeah just did a watch on it so it would take the silo out of build failure status
[16:18] <sil2100> kgunn, AlbertA, jibel: is silo 18 for OTA-8 still?
[16:26] <AlbertA> sil2100: I don't know actually, kgunn?
[16:27] <sil2100> I'm snapshotting the PPA and would like to know if I supposed to copy it over as well
[16:27] <pmcgowan> I expect no landings other than regression fixes
[16:28] <sil2100> Ok then
[17:23] <bzoltan_> brendand: is there a silo or ppa I could test the new AP package?
[17:24] <brendand> bzoltan_, no there isn't anything yet - unfortunately it needs a new version of testtools that isn't in the archive
[17:25] <brendand> bzoltan_, veebers was looking at that, i'll check back with him later
[17:25] <bzoltan_> brendand: is there a way to work around or hack the testtools?
[17:26] <bzoltan_> brendand: you mentioned that the problem could be when testtols try to log something after a failed test. is there a way to disable it?
[17:28] <brendand> bzoltan_, if you have a log with the crash in it i can tell you, but i lost my traceback so i can't remember what the function was
[17:29] <bzoltan_> brendand: just tell me the filenames you need from me... I have a fresh crashed device
[17:29] <brendand> bzoltan_, the crash would be on the terminal where you ran autopilot or phablet-test-run
[17:31] <bzoltan_> brendand: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13240221/
[17:32] <brendand> bzoltan_, that's not what i was expecting
[17:32] <bzoltan_> brendand: I was expecting a nicely working AP test too :)
[17:33] <brendand> bzoltan_, that's completely different from the traceback i have
[17:33] <brendand> bzoltan_, i need more context
[17:33] <bzoltan_> brendand: do you want the individual test what messes up the system?
[17:33] <bzoltan_> brendand: let me do it
[17:33] <brendand> bzoltan_, ideally i would need to see the whole terminal output including the command run
[17:34] <bzoltan_> brendand: the command was autopilot3 run ubuntuuitoolkit
[17:34] <brendand> bzoltan_, on the device?
[17:34] <bzoltan_> brendand: yes
[17:35] <bzoltan_> brendand: phablet-test-run ubuntuuitoolkit
[18:20] <robru> kgunn: so you need a core dev to publish 18 due to the packaging changes.
[18:20] <robru> kgunn: but it sounds like you missed the cutoff for ota8 if I read correctly
[18:51] <jhodapp> robru, mind doing a dput for qtmultimedia from ppa:jhodapp/ubuntu/ppa to silo 9
[18:52] <robru> jhodapp: sure one sec
[18:52] <jhodapp> thanks
[18:52] <robru> jhodapp: done. you're welcome!
[18:53] <jhodapp> excellent thanks
[19:09] <bzoltan_> jibel: if you see somebody from mir folks.. they might be interested about this - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13241002/
[19:13] <kgunn> robru: yeah, no biggie missing ota8, more about enabling some biz guys
[19:15] <sil2100> robru, kgunn: yeah, a core-dev is needed here, it's fine to land to the overlay as we're unfreezing now
[20:17] <boiko> trainguards: can someone please trigger a rebuild of dialer-app for xenial armhf on silo 0?
[20:17] <robru> boiko: on it
[20:19] <boiko> robru: thanks
[20:36] <robru> boiko: you're welcome
[20:58] <robru> much qa
[20:58] <robru> wow
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-si
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[06:24] <napsy_> jutro
[07:01] <zdobbie> http://heeeeeeeey.com
[07:01] <Pepelka> heeeeeeeeeeeeeey!
[07:03] <slax0r> jutro
[07:04] <slax0r> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnb7EqfykF4
[07:04] <Pepelka> Smooth Criminal M.Jackson à l'orgue de barbarie - YouTube
[07:04] <Pepelka> »Smooth Criminal Michael Jackson. Arrangement pour orgue de barbarie ODIN: Patrick Mathis.www.patrickmathis.net«
[07:11] <pitastrudl> jutro
[07:22] <zdobersek> df
[07:22] <zdobersek> plz
[07:22] <zdobersek> show me m'disks
[07:23] * slax0r shows zdobersek m'disks
[07:23] <slax0r> like dis?
[07:25] <zdobersek> ye
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> [08:22:18] <zdobersek>: df <-- proof that zdobersek is not human
[09:21] <zdobersek> ?
[09:22] <CrazyLemon> of course..a bot doesnt get it and is all confused
[09:45] <pitastrudl> uhm
[09:45] <pitastrudl> what http://i.imgur.com/Woaly0Q.png
[09:45] <pitastrudl> o.0
[09:46] <pitastrudl> sprobavam peer block
[09:46] <pitastrudl> lol
[09:53] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl ja.. peer block ocitno sux ker to nista ipja ministrstva za obrambo :)
[09:53] <pitastrudl> aja
[09:53] <pitastrudl> lol
[09:53] <pitastrudl> kaj pa je pol to :-D
[09:53] <CrazyLemon> Uni LJ
[09:54] <pitastrudl> but why is that there
[09:54] <pitastrudl> o.o
[09:54] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl coz of torrents?
[09:55] <pitastrudl> ahh
[09:55] <dz0ny> a veš uporabljao torrente za izmenjavo zaupnih podatkov :D
[09:55] <pitastrudl> wat
[09:56] <CrazyLemon> ampak to bi v bistvu bil kr dobr način..unexpected :)
[09:56] <pitastrudl> haha
[10:10] <dz0ny> meanwhile https://www.techinasia.com/indonesias-trade-minister-runs-ministry-whatsapp/
[10:10] <Pepelka> Why Indonesia's trade minister runs his ministry on WhatsApp
[10:10] <Pepelka> »Despite the pressure and early criticisms, the Jokowi administration is on track to reform Indonesia, says trade minister at Tech in Asia Jakarta.«
[10:16] <zdobersek> why not beer plock
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/iraski-kurdi-sprozili-ofenzivo-za-osvojitev-sindzarja/378486
[10:27] <Pepelka> Iraški Kurdi sprožili ofenzivo za osvojitev Sindžarja :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[10:27] <Pepelka> »Iraški Kurdi so ob podpori letalskih napadov ameriških sil začeli obsežno ofenzivo, s katero želijo znova prevzeti nadzor nad strateškim mestom Sindžar v bližini sirske meje.«
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> a smo igrali včeraj sinjar ??
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> in zakaj ne?!?!
[10:30] <dz0ny> CrazyLemon: a to je training scenario for ww3
[10:30] <dz0ny> al zakaj je insurgency tolk popularen
[10:31] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny kak ww3.. to so trenutni battlefieldi!
[10:31] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny ker je precej kul i guess
[10:56] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny a ti si že na xential?
[10:56] <CrazyLemon> xenial*
[10:57] <zdobersek> debian unstable
[10:57] <zdobersek> yolo
[10:58] <slax0r> kaj je pa spet xenial?
[10:58] <slax0r> ubuntu?
[10:58] <napsy> slis se ko neke vrste viagre
[10:59] <slax0r> definition: Hospitable, especially to visiting strangers or foreigners.
[11:06] <CrazyLemon> ping
[11:06] <jabuk> CrazyLemon: pong
[11:07] <zdobersek> bong
[11:09] <slax0r> msev-: ne ni goat sim moj fav game :P
[11:09] <slax0r> pravzaprav se ga niti igral posteno nisem
[11:10] <msev-> haha
[11:10] <slax0r> sam pri kolegu kaksnih 5min, ne vidim pointa da bi to kupu :D
[11:10] <msev-> :D
[11:10] <msev-> ka pa veš eni slovenci majo ful radi drobnico :P
[11:52] <zdobersek> crazy crazy
[12:24] <dz0ny> crazy is gone
[12:24] <dz0ny> world will end now
[12:24] <zdobersek> je su v Sinjar
[12:29] <slax0r> je kdo od vas ze kdaj delal z graphite in icinga/nagios?
[13:04] <dz0ny> slax0r: influxdb
[13:04] <dz0ny> telegraf
[13:04] <dz0ny> grafana
[13:08] <slax0r> jaz bi tut raje influx
[13:08] <slax0r> samo ne...graphite -.-
[13:18] <dz0ny> drgac sem pa kriv da smo spisal custom timeseries db on top of boltdb
[13:18] <dz0ny> but who cares :D
[13:21] <Sky[x]> auch :D
[13:21] <Sky[x]> jst sem ravno switchov iz Lumen na Laravel ker tole je pa obup
[13:22] <slax0r> a ni lumen == laravel?
[13:22] <Sky[x]> ja sam je oklesten
[13:23] <slax0r> ja, ce je micro-"framework"
[13:23] <dz0ny> but I'am happy with it
[13:23] <slax0r> js uporabljam svojga, dam not kaj rabim, pa gas
[13:24] <Sky[x]> neki kar je v 5.1 dokumentaciji v lumnu ni notr pa je basic stuff :)
[13:24] <Sky[x]> in pol zgublas cas
[13:24] <Sky[x]> pa en package za laravel ne mores lepo za lumen uporabit spet problem
[13:24] <slax0r> zakaj pa ne bi mogel?
[13:24] <Sky[x]> v lumnu nimas php artisan vendor:publish
[13:25] <slax0r> so?
[13:25] <slax0r> tudi jaz nimam v svojem "framework" artisan
[13:25] <slax0r> pa vseeno uporabljam illuminate database
[13:25] <slax0r> pa symfony translations
[13:25] <slax0r> itd itd
[13:25] <Sky[x]> svoj framework je spet druga :)
[13:25] <slax0r> "framework" :P
[13:27] <slax0r> ziher se da uporabit :)
[13:35] <dz0ny> slax0r: to jim pokaž http://www.slideshare.net/Dieterbe/alerting-in-grafana-grafanacon-2015
[13:35] <Pepelka> Alerting in Grafana, Grafanacon 2015
[13:35] <Pepelka> »As one of the most requested features in our last survey, and one of the most active open GitHub issues, alerting in Grafana is both an exciting and contentiou…«
[13:37] <slax0r> dz0ny: nikoli ne bom dojel bistva teh slide-ov
[13:37] <slax0r> kaj si naj z tem?
[13:41] <dz0ny> slax0r: pol pa to http://grafana.org/blog/2015/10/28/Grafana-2-5-Released.html
[13:41] <Pepelka> Grafana - Grafana 2.5 Released
[13:41] <slax0r> saj mamo 2.5 gor...
[13:41] <slax0r> samo mamo graphite kot data source
[13:47] <Sky[x]> slax0r: iz tega izhaja zakaj iz Lumna na Laravel http://laravelista.com/json-web-token-authentication-for-lumen/
[13:47] <Pepelka> JSON Web Token Authentication for Lumen
[13:47] <Pepelka> »I have shown you a way of creating an API using Lumen and Fractal. In this post we will continue on that and implement authentication and protected routes.«
[13:50] <slax0r> Sky[x]: samo se vedno se da uporabljat, tudi izven laravel/lumen
[13:51] <Sky[x]> da se izven uporabljat seveda :) vse se da samo ce hoces :P
[13:53] <slax0r> https://github.com/firebase/php-jwt
[13:53] <Pepelka> firebase/php-jwt · GitHub
[13:53] <Pepelka> »php-jwt - PEAR package for JWT«
[13:53] <slax0r> bolj simple uporaba
[13:53] <slax0r> ne vidim poante zakaj bi moral direkt laravel pakete uporabljat ^^
[13:53] <slax0r> in nekaj integrirat :)
[14:30] <Sky[x]> ker mam ze laravel zadej?
[14:36] <BigWhale> dz0ny, sam steam controller
[14:37] <dz0ny> BigWhale: heh sam da nima latency 24h :D
[14:37] <dz0ny> si igral kakšno igro namest z mouse?
[14:40] <BigWhale> na Linuxu mi v spilih sploh ne dela... nisem se se ukvarjal tocno zakaj ne dela...
[14:40] <BigWhale> dela v Steamu
[14:40] <BigWhale> ce gres v big picture mode
[14:40] <BigWhale> k se pa game pozene, pa ne dela :D
[14:43] <dz0ny> BigWhale: men se zdi da rabiš modul za kernel
[14:43] <dz0ny> oz 4.3 ga ma by default
[14:48] <BigWhale> hmm
[14:48] <BigWhale> mozno
[14:48] <BigWhale> sam je hecn, ker ga detektira
[14:49] <BigWhale> pa cist lepo ga predstav kot steam controller
[14:51] <dz0ny> BigWhale: http://news.softpedia.com/news/valve-s-steam-controller-to-get-driver-in-linux-kernel-4-3-492204.shtml
[14:51] <Pepelka> Valve's Steam Controller to Get Driver in Linux Kernel 4.3 - Softpedia
[14:51] <Pepelka> »Developers are now adding support for the controller«
[14:53] <BigWhale> https://steamcommunity.com/app/353370/discussions/0/490123197956024380/
[14:53] <Pepelka> Steam Controller known issues and platform-specific notes :: Steam Controller General Discussions
[14:53] <BigWhale> tle sicer pise da bi moral delat brez kernel modula
[14:53] <dz0ny> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/steamcontroller-udev/
[14:53] <dz0ny> tole ma arch da dela
[14:53] <BigWhale> to mam
[14:53] <BigWhale> sej pravim, da v big picture mode steama dela brez problema
[14:55] <dz0ny> ja, but ne drugje
[15:02] <Sky[x]> jst razmislam da si kupm counter strike: go :>
[15:07] <pitastrudl> buy it!
[15:07] <pitastrudl> :)
[15:08] <pitastrudl> i can tell you from my 3713h of playtime, its worth it
[15:08] <pitastrudl> if you're prepare to sell your body and soul
[15:08] <pitastrudl> huehue
[15:09] <pitastrudl> sej drugače je vredu
[15:09] <pitastrudl> pa ni tak drag
[15:09] <pitastrudl> pa lahk tudi kdaj skupaj kakšno odigramo
[15:10] <Sky[x]> ql :)
[15:10] <CrazyLemon> insurgency > cs:go
[15:11] <pitastrudl> nevem kak je insurgency
[15:11] <pitastrudl> tak da cant have a go at that argument
[15:20] <Matthai> neat: http://foxglovesecurity.com/2015/11/02/hack-like-the-bad-guys-using-tor-for-firewall-evasion-and-anonymous-remote-access/
[15:20] <Pepelka> Hack Like the Bad Guys – Using Tor for Firewall Evasion and Anonymous Remote Access |
[15:20] <Matthai> :-)
[15:20] <Pepelka> »By @breenmachine Summary In this post I'll be dropping a tool and set of techniques that red teams can use to maintain anonymous, covert access to compromised machines. I'll also present some advic...«
[15:41] <zdobersek> ping
[15:41] <jabuk> zdobersek: pong
[17:06] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B_uusKGG0U
[17:06] <Pepelka> The Wolf of Bitcoin - YouTube
[17:06] <Pepelka> »A silly mashup of the story of the Silk Road, Bitcoin, and the Wolf of Wall Street. We filmed this as part of our 30 day comedy project: One Month No Regrets...«
[17:38] <netkat> http://gchq.careers/ rabjo tud graffiti artista
[17:38] <Pepelka> GCHQ Careers & Jobs
[17:39] <CrazyLemon> i suggest you scroll down
[17:39] <CrazyLemon> :D
[17:39] <netkat> :D
[17:39] <idioterna> js se grem borit prot nasilju
[17:39] <idioterna> kr na mumble
[17:39] <idioterna> i guess
[17:40] <zdobersek> in a meeting!
[17:40] <zdobersek> fighting scarf-heads later!
[17:41] <idioterna> sandniggers.
[17:41] <zdobersek> and I thought _I_ was racist
[17:42] <zdobersek> pa se posodo moram spravit iz stroja
[17:42] <CrazyLemon> MORAŠ
[17:42] <zdobersek> in morem!
[17:45] <CrazyLemon> fyi
[17:45] <CrazyLemon> insurgency update je na voljo
[17:45] <zdobersek> kolk je skode?
[17:45] <zdobersek> v MB
[17:45] <CrazyLemon> 500+
[17:46] <zdobersek> whut
[18:02] <zdobbie> dayumn
[18:02] <zdobbie> he wznt lyin'
[18:25] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: alienware steam machine + controller za 649$
[18:26] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek a bargain!
[18:26] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek a prides igrat al ne?
[18:27] <zdobersek> ja pa sestankujem
[18:27] <zdobersek> posodo sem ze pospravu
[18:27] <zdobersek> na dvojko bi se prej su
[18:27] <pitastrudl> op me bitches
[18:28] <pitastrudl> http://extrafabulouscomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/check.png
[18:28] <zdobersek> pitastrudl: feck off, you too OP anyway
[18:28] <pitastrudl> huehue
[18:28] <pitastrudl> dons sm šou igrat malo counter strike 1.6
[18:28] <pitastrudl> 2ez4me
[18:28] <zdobersek> jst enmal source nabijam
[18:29] <pitastrudl> noobi na pub serverjih so ezpez
[18:29] <zdobersek> ce mi sprayi v csgo ne grejo
[18:29] <pitastrudl> noob
[18:29] <pitastrudl> source je k kolo z koleščki
[18:29] <pitastrudl> :D
[18:29] <zdobersek> pitastrudl: ma to vecinoma tko igrajo na raspberry pijih
[18:29] <pitastrudl> haha
[20:08] <Sky[x]> slax0r: sem zrihtal JWT :)
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-africa
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[12:23] <melodie> hello
[12:24] <craig__> hello :)
[12:24] <melodie> I would like to have your support for a bug report I did: the purpose is to keep the size of the isos delivered as low as possible (Bento Openbox which I develop, especially but not limited to it)
[12:25] <craig__> what can i do to help
[12:25] <melodie> so what I need is people who check and who supports a bug report I posted, about libgtk3-0, because I could not build an iso without having any gtk program pulling in lots of depends
[12:25] <melodie> hi craig__
[12:25] <melodie> here is the bug report number:
[12:26] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[12:26] <melodie> what would be needed as a test, would be something such as installing the same set of packages I use, in virtualbox for instance and starting from the officila mini.iso
[12:26] <melodie> official
[12:27] <melodie> using Wily Edition
[12:27] <craig__> will have a look tonight when i get home
[12:27] <melodie> nice!
[12:27] <melodie> shall I give the links here now?
[12:28] <melodie> mini iso 32bits for instance can be found here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[12:28] <melodie> and the list of packages I can provide on pastebin?
[12:28] <craig__> thanks i will manage
[12:32] <melodie> are you used to perform minimal installs?
[12:32] <melodie> anyway thank you very much
[12:33] <melodie> I hope I can find a few persons on the two Africa and ZA chans, as it's the very place where bandwidth matters! (even if in many countrysides in France it does matter too)
[12:34] <melodie> I read recently that France among all europeen countries belong to the places where the internet connexions are the most terrible, just besides Italy and Greece. :~/
[12:38] <craig__> not used to minimal installs but i am sure i can manage
[12:39] <craig__> my home connection in Zimbabwe is pretty good around 2 Mbs
[12:40] <melodie> yes sure
[12:42] <melodie> anyway I have used lots of time at some point a pair of years ago, to pinpoing which packages where absolutely necessary in order for an install to function properly (just 3 packages were missing at that time in fact, in my install). I did this with a looong diff between the filesystem.manifest of my iso and the one of lubuntu iso. (with some options to make it easier to compare, however it took me some time 3 days on a row)
[12:42] <melodie> of course I am willing to share
[12:53] <melodie> welcome back craig__
[13:06] <craig__> we have many powercuts here, now on generator
[13:16] <melodie> craig__ is that your work place?
[13:18] <melodie> have you been able to get what I told you last, about the time I used to pinpoint the necessary packages?
[13:31] <Kilos> hi craig__ melodie
[13:32] <Kilos> sorry im so slowq. very busy on cell with banks
[13:32] <melodie> hi here Kilos
[13:32] <melodie> cell with banks: doing your accounting in a spreadsheet?
[13:32] <Kilos> nono
[13:33] <Kilos> cell phone to bank to try get my online banking app to work properly
[13:33] <melodie> cell phones are dangerous for the security of your data
[13:33] <Kilos> and very hot here so even brain is sluggish
[13:34] <melodie> you might want to avoid using that kind of tool for money related things
[13:34] <Kilos> im online with my pc but this bank uses your cell to verify things
[13:34] <melodie> it can be very easily hacked I was told
[13:35] <melodie> doesn't it just send you a sms when you need a verification on something you buy online?
[13:35] <Kilos> like, when i login with pc i get an immediate sms that account has been opened
[13:35] <melodie> for what purpose?
[13:35] <Kilos> no it sends smsses everytime i want to change anything online
[13:36] <craig__> yes melodie i am at work at the moment
[13:36] <craig__> Hi Kilos
[13:36] <melodie> craig__ ok
[13:36] <Kilos> then i have to choose approve or reject
[13:37] <melodie> craig__ I am cleaning up my file script, the one that contains info about the packages I need to install for that minimal install (which in reality is about building Bento Openbox but I can't tell them about that on the bug report, because they don't give a damn about remixes, however my bug report can help all editions to get lighter on space)
then i have to choose approve or reject // they could not do that over here, the people would scream
[13:38] <melodie> it looks like they are not trusting the skills of their users, isn't it?
[13:38] <Kilos> lol
[13:40] <Kilos> they actually seem quite secure because one needs to login with a pin number and then a password and still have to have the registered fone to approve/reject any transaction
[13:40] <melodie> the last part is a bit too much
[13:40] <Kilos> yeah very frustating
[13:40] <melodie> what if the guy does not possess a mobile phone?
[13:40] <melodie> or does not want to have one?
[13:41] <Kilos> then you cant do o nline banking
[13:41] <melodie> can't afford, or generally doesn't need one
[13:41] <melodie> it's too much power in the hands of the banks me thinks
[13:41] <Kilos> the whole internet banking seems to be closely linked to mobile use as well
[13:42] <Kilos> yes i agree, they live on the power they have
[13:42] <Kilos> and abuse it as well
[13:42] <Kilos> they charge us to put money in and take it out
[13:43] <Kilos> thats why im using online, its much cheaper
[13:43] <Kilos> atm and bank transactions cost
[14:33] <melodie> elacheche ?
[14:39] <elacheche> Hey melodie !
[14:40] <elacheche> I was away.. Just come back from a training x)
[14:40] <elacheche> How can I help?
[14:49] <melodie> hi elacheche
[14:50] <melodie> you might be able to help about a bug report against libgtk3-0 and I have another question related to a company which I am curious about
[14:50] <melodie> the bug report:
[14:50] <melodie> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[14:51] <melodie> I am seeking for testimonials on this bug report because I would like to see gtk3 stay a bit more sober
[14:52] <melodie> if it goes bloated this will feel hard on the size of future ISOs (which is a bummer considering the bandwidth in many places in the world, and not only in African countries btw)
[14:52] <melodie> even if the hard drives tend to be very huge
[14:52] <melodie> in disk space
[14:53] <melodie> so for this one bug report I am seeking for as many helpers as I will be able to find
[14:57] <elacheche> Let me take a look
[15:12] <melodie> elacheche yes sure
[15:47] <elacheche> I don't know ho I can help on that melodie
[15:48] <melodie> elacheche you could if you would occasionally need very lean setups, starting from a mini.iso (which is a netinstall)
[15:48] <melodie> for a desktop, and you would notice any gtk app pulls in several hundred megabytes of depends
[15:49] <elacheche> OK
[15:50] <melodie> I'm about to retry now, in a chroot
[15:51] <melodie> would you have any time and interest for that? (at some point in the next days or weeks?)
[15:51] <melodie> I can provide my script/draft?
[15:56] <elacheche> no idea melodie :/ I have many days of training AFK :/
[15:58] <melodie> AFK : away from keyboard?
[16:09] <elacheche> yep
[16:17] <melodie> ok
[16:17] <melodie> :)
[17:40] <melodie> I have asked a question here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-icon-theme/+question/274092
[18:01] <Na3iL> Yo melodie , you asked me last time to help you with your ToDo list.. Paste it
[18:02] <melodie> yes!
[18:02] <melodie> http://bentovillage.me/todo/
[18:02] <melodie> http://bentovillage.me/todo/en
[18:02] <melodie> same two languages
[18:03] <melodie> 9 todo
[18:03] <melodie> 5 ideas
[18:03] <melodie> 14 notes
[18:03] <melodie> ...
[18:04] <Na3iL> Just wondering why you don't just use wiki pages instead of Wordpress as cms.
[18:05] <melodie> I hate wiki formatting, slows down the writing process
[18:06] <Na3iL> Hmm, okay
[18:08] <inetpro> good evening
[18:09] <Na3iL> So, there's another 9 articles to translate from EN to FR?
[18:09] <Na3iL> o/ inetpro
[18:10] <melodie> brb
[18:10] <Na3iL> tyt
[18:19] <melodie> Na3iL I'll go to an fro, from keyboard to dinner (eating by bits right now)
[18:20] <Na3iL> Take your time melodie we talk later
[18:20] <Na3iL> Same here, it is my dinner time :)
[18:21] <melodie> :)
[18:22] <melodie> have a nice meal! Bon appétit !
[18:22] <Na3iL> Merci bien mon ami :) à toi aussi
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-vn
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[15:40] <vubuntor359> Chào mọi người. Mình mới tìm hiểu về ubuntu. Có ai cho mình xin nick skype để hỏi han 1 chút cho tiện được không ạ? Xin cảm ơn!
[15:41] <MrTuxHdb> Không
[15:41] <MrTuxHdb> xin nick skype xong
[15:41] <MrTuxHdb> bậy lúc nào cũng hỏi
[15:41] <MrTuxHdb> mệt lắm
[15:43] <vubuntor359> ko đến mức lúc nào cũng hỏi đâu ạ. Hoặc nếu không cho mình xin mail. Mình tâp hợp lại khi nào bạn rảnh trả lời cũng được.
[15:43] <vubuntor359> Thanks!
[15:43] <MrTuxHdb> khỏi đi nào rảnh lên đây mà hỏi
[15:43] <MrTuxHdb> :D
[15:49] <vubuntor359> Mình có sử dụng lệnh "pip install numpy scipy matplotlib" để get thư viện về. Nhưng đều bị lỗi. Theo mình hiểu thì có thể đường dẫn của thư viện đã bị thay đổi. Vậy làm sao để có thể tìm các thư viện thay thế?
[15:49] <vubuntor359> Xin cảm ơn!
[15:51] <MrTuxHdb> thêm sudo vào
[15:51] <MrTuxHdb> hoặc cài virtualenv
[15:58] <vubuntor359> Cảm ơn rất nhiều. Vì không biết bạn có ở đây lâu nữa không? Nên mình sẽ hỏi thêm 1 số câu nữa nhé. Mong bạn bớt ít phút thời gian giúp mình.
[16:00] <vubuntor359> Trong hướng dẫn mình tìm được có câu như sau "Setup path - import os, import sys ...." Mình hiểu đây là của python (Xin lỗi vì hơi không liên quan). Nếu vậy mình sẽ phải bật python, hay nó sẽ map đến nhau như kiểu mình dùng command line để chạy java ở windows?
[16:00] <vubuntor359> Cảm ơn!
[16:03] <MrTuxHdb> thật tình là không hiểu câu hỏi của bạn
[16:11] <vubuntor359> Rất xin lỗi vì không biết cách mô tả thật dễ hiểu. Mình có cho đoạn hướng dẫn vào link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13239321/ Mình copy hơi dài để nếu có gì bạn có thể hiểu thêm. Còn mình chỉ muốn hỏi từ đoạn Setup Path. Mình thấy không giống định dạng bên trên để chạy lệnh linux : (env)root@name~ Như vậy mình có thể hiểu những chứ ở p
[16:11] <SuperLuserv3> [ Ubuntu Pastebin ] - paste.ubuntu.com
[16:11] <vubuntor359> Cảm ơn bạn rất rất nhiều. Thanks!
[16:13] <MrTuxHdb> vubuntor359: vẫn không hiểu bạn đang định làm gì
[16:13] <MrTuxHdb> cái đoạn python đó thì nó setup path thôi
[16:13] <MrTuxHdb> nhưng logout là mất
[16:13] <MrTuxHdb> bạn không nói rõ hoàn cảnh thì sao biết mà support
[16:13] <MrTuxHdb> mà thôi cảm ơn với thanks đi
[16:14] <MrTuxHdb> tập trung vào việc
[16:14] <MrTuxHdb> =))
[16:21] <vubuntor359> Trước hết mình nói qua về việc mình định làm. Hiện tại mình đang muốn xây dựng môi trường để từ đó chạy sandbox (Dùng để phân tích dữ liệu trong Android). Khi lấy được kết quả mình sẽ phân tích tiếp kết quả thu được. Hoặc nếu tương lai xa thì có thể modify lại máy ảo davilk (Source Android) để phân tích. Nhưng mình đang gặp vấ
[16:22] <vubuntor359> Mình có tìm hiểu qua nhiều nơi nhưng hầu hết đều chỉ hướng dẫn sử dụng (Trên phương diện người dùng). Nếu có thể cho mình xin tài liệu về các lệnh trong linux cũng như các cách tùy biến khi không thể down được ở 1 nguồn nào đó?
[16:27] <vubuntor359> Nếu bạn rảnh và ở HN. Cho phép mình mời bạn đi cafe 1 buổi.
[16:41] <MrTuxHdb> mình dân HN nhưng ở SG cơ
[16:42] <MrTuxHdb> DavikVM xịt rồi
[16:42] <MrTuxHdb> đến giờ Google nó chuyển sang ART từ 5.0 rồi
[16:42] <MrTuxHdb> :D
[16:42] <MrTuxHdb> chạy sandbox máy ảo android
[16:43] <MrTuxHdb> ?
[16:43] <MrTuxHdb> đoạn kia thì là setup env cho code python
[16:43] <MrTuxHdb> mình không thấy nó liên quan gì cả
[16:43] <MrTuxHdb> nếu phải định thực thi cái gì trong cả python nữa
[16:43] <MrTuxHdb> thì cứ mở python lên
[16:43] <MrTuxHdb> chạy mấy lệnh kia
[16:43] <MrTuxHdb> còn không thì export PATH là xong
[16:44] <MrTuxHdb> nói chung với cái đoạn bạn đưa thì dùng kiểu nào cũng được
[16:49] <vubuntor359> Ừa. để mình thử cấu hình lại xem sao. Tại cả python + linux đều chưa làm bao giờ. Bây h chỉ muốn lấy được dữ liệu của nó để phân tích thôi. Cảm ơn bạn nhiều nhé. Chúc ngủ ngon!
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2015-11-12-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[16:14] <zequence> I've been working on some sort of system for sharing passwords within the PR and Support team
[16:14] <zequence> protonmail is one simple variant
[16:15] <zequence> I mention this, but also explain how to do it by encrypting a textfile here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PublicRelationsDocumentation#Sharing_Passwords_Between_Team_Members
[16:15] <zequence> I will be sending passwords to all team members once I have them set up
[16:15] <zequence> Only the project lead will be able to change them
[16:16] <zequence> Which is me, right now. But, maybe someone else would like to be PR and Support lead?
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[02:07] <ahoneybun> mhall119: http://usefoss.com/index.php/2015/10/27/15-10-release-party-result-success/
[02:39] <mhall119> thanks ahoneybun
[02:40] <ahoneybun> though I might get a new domain very soon
[02:41] <ahoneybun> that one is set to runout on the 17th of this month
[02:42] <ahoneybun> sup mhall119
[02:43] <mhall119> ahoneybun: not much, getting the donation report together
[02:43] <ahoneybun> cool, 7 days till fossetcon
[02:43] <mhall119> yeah, I should work on my presentation :)
[02:44] <ahoneybun> mm I just need to work on making mine funny a bit maybe
[02:44] <ahoneybun> http://fossetcon.org/2015/sessions/ubucon
[14:36] <DammitJim> woohoo
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2015-11-12-#juju-dev
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[01:11] <axw_> thumper: is hosted env destruction going to be merged into master before the jes flag is removed? and CreateEnvironment added?
[01:12] <thumper> axw: CreateEnvironment is already there
[01:12] <thumper> axw: and I hope so
[01:12] <axw> thumper: oh, sweet, thanks
[01:12] <thumper> I've just found that some of my assumptions about how bootstrap works are wrong
[01:12] <thumper> :(
[01:13] <axw> thumper: which branch has CreateEnvironment (not PrepareForCreateEnvironment)?
[01:13] <thumper> master does...
[01:14] <thumper> you mean api, cli, ?
[01:14] <axw> thumper: I mean in EnvironProvider
[01:14] <thumper> ...
[01:14] <thumper> I'm not working on that
[01:15] <axw> thumper: remember that discussion about creating resources for azure?
[01:15] <thumper> yeah...
[01:15] <thumper> ugh...
[01:15] <axw> thumper: ok, I thought it would be part of multi-env
[01:15] <thumper> it has fallen off my todo list
[01:15] <thumper> it should be
[01:15] <thumper> my todo list gained weeks of work yesterday
[01:15] <thumper> that floated to the top
[01:15] <axw> thumper: heh :)
[01:16] <axw> thumper: BTW, I don't know if it'll be useful for other providers, but in Azure it's useful to know the UUID of the controller model
[01:16] <axw> thumper: s/useful/critical/
[01:16] <thumper> :)
[01:17] <axw> thumper: might be worth adding to the env config at some point
[01:17] <thumper> yeah...
[01:17] <axw> atm I'm just adding it to the azure config
[01:17] <thumper> k
[01:17] <axw> as an internal thing
[01:18] * axw wishes we had somewhere to store internal data that's not really config
[02:04] <wallyworld_> axw: with Offer and ServiceOffer - Offer was from anatasia's branch and it's going away but there' stuff that depends on it. i've added a todo in my next branch but didn't add the todo in the previous branch
[02:05] <wallyworld_> sorry for confusion
[02:05] <axw> wallyworld_: ok, so long as it dies a quick death
[02:05] <wallyworld_> it will
[02:05] <wallyworld_> tomorrow
[02:05] <axw> excellent
[02:05] <axw> :)
[02:05] <bradm> any ideas on why a juju deploy to a container would use the wrong uncompress option? its trying to use xz on a .tar.gz cloud image tarball
[02:07] <wallyworld_> bradm: it's the lxc scripts which uncompress the image
[02:07] <bradm> https://pastebin.canonical.com/143978/ is the slightly truncated output
[02:08] <wallyworld_> juju merely downloads the image for lxc to then use as it sees fit
[02:08] <bradm> right.
[02:09] <bradm> its definately pulling the tarball from the right looking location
[02:09] <wallyworld_> bradm: i know there was recent lxc breakage in wily due to upstream issues, but am not across the details
[02:10] <rick_h__> wallyworld_: that was more around the networking
[02:10] <bradm> wallyworld_: this is using trusty though?
[02:10] <wallyworld_> rick_h__: ah yes, you are right
[02:10] <rick_h__> wallyworld_: nothing with the image compression formats that I'm aware of
[02:10] <wallyworld_> yeah, correct, i forgot
[02:11] <wallyworld_> bradm: all i can suggest is to look at the lxc ubuntu-cloud template which is a bash script to see what it is doing
[02:11] <wallyworld_> i think it's in /etc/lxc somewhere
[02:11] <bradm> wallyworld_: would you expect juju to be providing a .tar.gz or a .tar.xz ?
[02:12] <bradm> hmm, no, not in /etc/lxc
[02:12] <wallyworld_> bradm: .tar.gz - we simply download from cloud-images.ubuntu.com. we use the clould-image-query script to find out what to download from a series
[02:12] <bradm> I'll find it.
[02:12] <wallyworld_> bradm: tl;dr; juju relies on upstream utils
[02:13] <wallyworld_> bradm: /usr/share/lxc/templates
[02:13] <bradm> wallyworld_: right, but this is all on trusty, I'm a bit concern it just broke
[02:13] <wallyworld_> yeah me too
[02:13] <bradm> hah, thats exactly where I'm looking
[02:13] <wallyworld_> we need to fix obviously :-)
[02:13] <wallyworld_> but we need to look upstream to diagnose
[02:13] <bradm> trying to work out if its lxc-ubuntu or lxc-ubuntu-cloud
[02:14] <wallyworld_> bradm: i suspect lxc-ubuntu-cloud
[02:14] <wallyworld_> the lxc-ctrea script chooses i think
[02:14] <wallyworld_> lxc-create
[02:15] <rick_h__> bradm: this smells like upstream moved to xz for better compression but juju grabbed the tar.gz image
[02:15] <bradm> yeah, its definately hard coded to using xz, according to the script
[02:16] <wallyworld> damn, i'm o sick of this kernel bug killing my network
[02:16] <rick_h__> bradm: right https://github.com/lxc/lxc/commit/27c278a76931bfc4660caa85d1942ca91c86e0bf
[02:17] <rick_h__> bradm: line 334 in the diff seems about the right place
[02:17] <bradm> "lxc-ubuntu-cloud: Replace .tar.gz by .tar.xz and don't auto-generate missing tarballs"
[02:17] <bradm> from the release notes
[02:17] <bradm> rick_h__: hah, snap. :)
[02:17] <bradm> same thing, slightly different direction
[02:18] <rick_h__> bradm: yea, can you file a bug on that please and copy myself and cherylj into the bug please?
[02:18] <rick_h__> bradm: including your version of lxc, juju, etc?
[02:18] <bradm> rick_h__: sure. bug on where though?
[02:18] <bradm> ie juju-core or lxc?
[02:18] <rick_h__> bradm: and we'll have to see if that needs to be made more flexible (there's an auto detect the format flag we use in juju-gui tarball for xz) or something else
[02:19] <rick_h__> bradm: on lxc
[02:19] <rick_h__> bradm: we can't get a release of juju out to fix this tomorrow
[02:19] <rick_h__> bradm: so weneed to file a backward incompatible bug with them or something. Maybe it'll end up a bug in how juju is getting the image that it's not getting the new ones?
[02:19] <rick_h__> bradm: but let's start there and we'll start working together on it please
[02:20] <bradm> rick_h__: for sure, easy enough to move bugs around.
[02:20] <rick_h__> bradm: ty much and <3 for the catch
[02:20] <wallyworld> rick_h__: bradm: juju uses upstream cloud-images-query to get the image url
[02:21] <rick_h__> wallyworld: right, so something changed there in lxc that it's thinking a different image should be used? I'm not sure tbh.
[02:21] <wallyworld> so if that is telling juju the wrong image, that will ned to be fixed too
[02:23] <wallyworld> rick_h__: ubuntu-cloudimg-query trusty released amd64 --format %{url} on my system returns
[02:23] <wallyworld> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/server/releases/trusty/release-20151105/ubuntu-14.04-server-cloudimg-amd64.tar.gz
[02:24] <rick_h__> wallyworld: rgr
[02:24] <wallyworld> bradm: ^^^^ what does the above return on yours
[02:25] <bradm> wallyworld: same.
[02:25] <wallyworld> hmmm
[02:26] <wallyworld> that's what i would have expected
[02:26] <bradm> wallyworld: apparently the lxc container creation template script didn't. :)
[02:26] <wallyworld> that's what juju downloads
[02:26] <wallyworld> damn :-(
[02:27] <wallyworld> so ubuntu-clouldimg-query and lxc are out of sync
[02:27] <wallyworld> how did this not show up in our testing
[02:27] <bradm> dunno
[02:28] <rick_h__> wallyworld: we must not have tested the latest lxc release. This just came out the other day. Is it in backports/etc?
[02:28] <wallyworld> ah i see. not sure where it lives
[02:28] <rick_h__> wallyworld: so this was released 2 days ago
[02:28] <rick_h__> bradm: can you look where you get it from?
[02:28] <wallyworld> well i guess our tests will break soon enough :-)
[02:29] <rick_h__> wallyworld: hah
[02:29] <axw> wallyworld: any particular reason why we need to model "remote endpoints", rather than just passing charm.Relations around?
[02:30] <bradm> aha!
[02:30] <bradm> we have -proposed enabled
[02:30] <bradm> so it looks like it hasn't made it to the main archive yet
[02:31] <wallyworld> axw: you mean for params across the wire?
[02:31] <axw> wallyworld: yes
[02:32] <axw> wallyworld: I'm reviewing anastasiamac's branch, just wondering whether we need params.RemoteEndpoint, or if we can just use charm.Relation
[02:32] <wallyworld> axw: we want to model wire structs distinct from the domain model. we pass in domain objects to api layer and map to params.*
[02:32] <bradm> rick_h__: theres the answer then, its not out in the wild yet
[02:32] <wallyworld> axw: and on the way out, we map params.* back to domain model
[02:33] <wallyworld> axw: but we currently leak params.* eberywhere :-(
[02:33] <wallyworld> because much of our domain model is defined in state
[02:33] <wallyworld> not is a model package
[02:33] <anastasiamac> axw: this way we could also easily distinguish exported endpoints from native ones, i guess :(... at some stage... if we want.... \o/
[02:33] <wallyworld> bradm: glad you caught that before it escaped :-)
[02:34] <axw> wallyworld anastasiamac: we're using charm.Relation in apiserver/params for non-remote relations, I'm just trying to understand if there's a good reason to have separate ways of serialising them
[02:35] <axw> wallyworld anastasiamac: I'm wondering if it's ever going to be the case that they'll have different information
[02:35] <wallyworld> axw: IMO what's there now then is a mistake, but i could be told otherwise
[02:36] <axw> wallyworld: yeah, I know fwereade doesn't like that we just pass charm.X over the wire, but I don't know that having two ways of doing it is a good thing either
[02:37] <axw> wallyworld: I was thinking the same thing about your argument for using the term "Endpoint" btw. it's true that "Relation" isn't a good name, but I think it will be confusing to have two ways to refer to the same thing in the codebase
[02:37] <wallyworld> that's worthy of consideration for sure
[02:37] <axw> wallyworld: we'll be going from being consistently inconsistent to inconsistently inconsistent
[02:37] <wallyworld> axw: at some point, we need to fix things
[02:37] <wallyworld> and with juju 2.0 we can vreak stuff
[02:38] <wallyworld> so perhaps this new work is a good place to start
[02:38] <axw> wallyworld: can't wait :)
[02:38] * axw sharpens the axe
[02:38] <wallyworld> let's do it "the right way" now and fix the other stuff after 2.0
[02:38] <axw> ok
[02:38] <anastasiamac> axw: we live on the edge! what's wrong with " inconsistently inconsistent"? :D
[02:38] <axw> anastasiamac: cognitive overhead
[02:39] <anastasiamac> axw: no sense of adventure :D
[02:39] <axw> anastasiamac: I like to get shit done instead of labouring over what something means :)
[02:39] <anastasiamac> axw: wallyworld: i agree that we'd benefit from doing the right thing now... sorry for mudding the mud
[02:40] <axw> anastasiamac: no apologies required, I just wanted to check what we should be doing
[02:40] <anastasiamac> axw: i prefer to code :D
[02:40] <anastasiamac> axw: and it was not an apology :P
[02:43] <bradm> wallyworld: LP#1515463 if you want to poke at the bug for any reason
[02:43] <wallyworld> axw: that service directory branch should be good to go. a few of the things you mentioned were prior issues with cleanup pending as stuff is glued together over the next day or two
[02:43] <wallyworld> bradm: ty
[02:44] <bradm> wallyworld: I hope I captured the bug appropriately.
[02:47] <axw> wallyworld: ok, looking
[02:48] <rick_h_> ouch, irc go boom
[02:48] <wallyworld> bradm: looks good. maybe a comment suggesting that ubuntu-cloudimg-query needs to be loooked at
[02:48] <rick_h_> bradm: ty you're my hero for catching it in proposed
[02:48] <wallyworld> bradm: +1
[02:49] <axw> wallyworld: LGTM
[02:49] <wallyworld> ty
[02:50] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: \o/ plz land!!! :D
[02:50] <bradm> ah, do I have to make this against a particular lxc version?
[02:52] <wallyworld> bradm: the bug triager will allocate to the right version? maybe?
[02:53] <bradm> I'd just hate them to miss it and the package get out to the wild
[02:54] * rick_h_ runs for the night, evening all
[02:58] <wallyworld_> bradm: stehpane has commented on the bug. i've also commneted
[03:00] <bradm> wallyworld_: perfect.
[03:01] <bradm> wallyworld_: looks like its well in hand now then.
[03:02] <wallyworld_> bradm: yeah, it does. we'll keep an eye on it at our end also :-)
[03:02] <bradm> I really don't care who fixes it where, just that I can deploy containers again. :)
[03:04] <wallyworld_> yup :-)
[03:05] <bradm> well, I can by dropping -proposed, thats easy enough for now.
[03:48] <pjdc> i just noticed that "juju run" stopped working in a 1.24.7 environment: https://pastebin.canonical.com/143985/plain/
[03:48] <pjdc> the unit log has the following: https://pastebin.canonical.com/143986/plain/
[03:48] <thumper> hmm
[03:48] <thumper> interesting
[03:49] <pjdc> :(
[03:49] <pjdc> machine-0.log: https://pastebin.canonical.com/143988/plain/
[03:51] <thumper> pjdc: it seems the agent is wedged
[03:52] <thumper> if you restart the agent, it should fix it
[03:52] <pjdc> thumper: on machine 0?
[03:52] <thumper> which machine was the log from?
[03:52] <pjdc> i already restarted the agent on the jenkins unit, which is the first log
[03:52] <thumper> that should fix it
[03:53] <pjdc> it's still spewing leadership failure
[03:53] <thumper> was the log before or after the restart?
[03:53] <pjdc> before
[03:54] <pjdc> here's the restart: https://pastebin.canonical.com/143989/plain/
[03:54] <pjdc> and it's just been logging the dying/stopped lines ever since
[03:54] <thumper> ugh
[03:54] <thumper> is the environment HA?
[03:55] <pjdc> it's not
[03:55] <thumper> can I see the logs from machine 0?
[03:55] <pjdc> from before or after the chunk in https://pastebin.canonical.com/143988/plain/ ?
[03:56] <pjdc> all i have in machine-0.log lining up with the jenkins unit agent restart is this: https://pastebin.canonical.com/143990/plain/
[03:56] <thumper> how much do you have?
[03:57] <thumper> heh
[03:57] <pjdc> i have everything; the environment is onyl a few hours old
[03:57] <thumper> provider?
[03:57] <pjdc> openstack
[03:57] <thumper> hmm...
[03:58] <thumper> how big is the environment?
[03:58] <thumper> I think the first step is to file a bug for this failure
[03:58] <pjdc> pretty small. three machines, one service each, and a few subordinates deployed to each
[03:58] <thumper> then we'll work out how to fix
[03:58] <thumper> it
[03:58] <thumper> kk
[03:59] <thumper> can I get you to do this: `juju set-env logging-config=juju=DEBUG` to change the logging level
[03:59] <thumper> then restart the machine-0 agent
[03:59] <pjdc> done and done
[03:59] <thumper> this should give us more output
[03:59] <thumper> let it settle for 20s or so
[03:59] <thumper> then lets look at the logs
[04:00] <thumper> pjdc: did you want to open the bug or shall I?
[04:00] <pjdc> i can open it
[04:00] <thumper> cheers
[04:02] <pjdc> well, that's annoying
[04:02] <pjdc> the restart seems to have made it work again
[04:04] <thumper> \o/
[04:04] <thumper> right
[04:04] <thumper> the reason juju run was failing was due to the uniter bouncing
[04:04] <thumper> juju run is executed through the uniter worker
[04:05] <thumper> the uniter was bouncing due to leadership issues
[04:05] <thumper> it seems that bouncing the server fixed those issues...
[04:05] <thumper> which it shouldn't have had
[04:06] <thumper> pjdc: to get the logging back to the default, you can say `juju set-env logging-config=juju=WARNING`
[04:07] <pjdc> righto, ta
[04:07] <thumper> rick_h_: ping
[04:07] <rick_h_> thumper: pong
[04:07] <thumper> rick_h_: you moved our meeting to a time I now have busy
[04:07] <rick_h_> thumper: was just about to ping you about moving that meeting
[04:07] <rick_h_> thumper: ah, sorry didn't show a conflict
[04:07] <rick_h_> thumper: what works for you?
[04:07] <thumper> rick_h_: if you can't make the earlier one, I'll change my one
[04:07] <thumper> rick_h_: it is a gym thing :)
[04:07] <rick_h_> thumper: yes sorry, I missed parent-teacher conferences on my personal calendar
[04:07] <thumper> the team lead meeting was moved to my normal gym time
[04:07] <rick_h_> I need some way to combine the two better so I don't schedule work stuff over personal stuff
[04:07] <thumper> so I booked a personal trainer for a session
[04:08] <rick_h_> thumper: hah, ok
[04:08] <pjdc> filed as #1515475, fwiw
[04:08] <mup> Bug #1515475: "juju run" stopped working after a few hours (1.24.7, newly deployed) <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515475>
[04:08] <rick_h_> thumper: well we can move or do tonight or ...
[04:08] <thumper> pjdc: ta
[04:08] <thumper> rick_h_: as in now?
[04:08] <rick_h_> thumper: if you're ok with it?
[04:08] <thumper> sure, I have some questions
[04:08] <rick_h_> thumper: or I can move it forward 4hrs from where it sits now?
[04:09] * thumper looks
[04:09] <rick_h_> thumper: earlier into the day, not sure if that's too early your time
[04:09] <rick_h_> thumper: around your standup time I guess
[04:09] <thumper> rick_h_: it is 13:30 now
[04:09] <thumper> four hours earlier is 9:30
[04:09] <thumper> which is fine
[04:09] <rick_h_> what questions? want to do that now and still keep it tomorrow?
[04:09] <rick_h_> thumper: or what do we need from here?
[04:10] <thumper> tomorrow... as I think we'll need the hour :)
[04:10] <rick_h_> ok
[04:10] <mup> Bug #1515475 opened: "juju run" stopped working after a few hours (1.24.7, newly deployed) <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515475>
[04:10] <rick_h_> thumper: ah I can't...wife is away. doh
[04:10] <thumper> rick_h_: can't tomorrow?
[04:10] <thumper> rick_h_: we can go fast now if you like
[04:10] <rick_h_> thumper: can we do 8:30am? and bump your standup 30min?
[04:11] <thumper> could do 8am
[04:11] <thumper> and not bump standup
[04:11] <rick_h_> thumper: why fast now? if you're rnuning out are you heading back and we can do the full hour later tonight?
[04:12] <thumper> dinner date :)
[04:12] <thumper> 15 minutes now and some monday?
[04:12] <rick_h_> thumper: maybe, will be in london for customer thing monday
[04:12] <thumper> my questions aren't deep
[04:12] <thumper> really? heading to london?
[04:12] <rick_h_> thumper: k, let's do that and I'll try to get something else
[04:12] <thumper> for how long?
[04:12] <rick_h_> thumper: for 3 days, Tues customer meeting
[04:12] <thumper> \o/
[04:13] * thumper chuckles to himself
[04:13] <rick_h_> thumper: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/rick?authuser=1
[04:13] <thumper> rick_h_: lets go!
[04:28] <mup> Bug #1515475 changed: "juju run" stopped working after a few hours (1.24.7, newly deployed) <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515475>
[04:34] <mup> Bug #1515475 opened: "juju run" stopped working after a few hours (1.24.7, newly deployed) <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515475>
[04:41] <bradm> wallyworld, rick_h_: its probably totally pointless testing telling us what we already know, but I just downgraded lxc related packages, put it on held and then redeployed, and its looking good.
[04:42] <wallyworld> yay
[04:42] <bradm> I'll mention it on the bug.
[04:42] <bradm> even though it seems well in hand.
[04:42] <wallyworld> bradm: by testing, i mean that our CI testing should catch this issue also
[04:42] <wallyworld> ty
[04:43] <bradm> wallyworld: right. has it just not run on proposed, or is there something else going on there?
[04:43] <wallyworld> bradm: we don't test with proposed AFAIK. but i guess we should
[04:44] <wallyworld> bradm: there are so many combinations of series, substrate, juju version etc
[04:44] <wallyworld> adding in proposed adds a whole new axis
[04:44] <bradm> wallyworld: indeed.
[04:45] <bradm> wallyworld: its just another set of jenkins jobs, right? ;)
[04:46] <wallyworld> bradm: yeah, but we don't have enough hardware. hardware is currently on order AFAIK
[04:47] <bradm> wallyworld: I know that feeling.
[04:47] <wallyworld> :-)
[09:19] <jam> frobware: looks like I'm going to have to miss our standup again... my wife needs me to take her to the Dr today.
[09:24] <frobware> jam: ack. and for the record I might miss tomorrow's as I have a dental appointment.
[10:00] <voidspace> frobware: I assume we're doing juju-core instead of standup?
[10:01] <frobware> voidspace, I vote we do standup
[10:01] <voidspace> frobware: heh
[10:03] <dimitern> voidspace, our call is cooler :)
[10:04] <voidspace> dimitern: our call is way cooler
[10:06] <dimitern> voidspace, so you're coming?
[10:07] <voidspace> dimitern: eh, are you serious? we shouldn't miss juju-core should we?
[10:07] <voidspace> even though not much is happening
[10:07] <dimitern> voidspace, oh c'mon :P
[10:08] <anastasiamac> dimitern: voidspace: :(
[10:10] <voidspace> anastasiamac: o/ :-(
[10:29] <dimitern> nope, they're done
[10:56] <frobware> dimitern, care to HO around maas/spaces?
[10:57] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: ping
[11:07] <perrito666> life after breakfast is much better
[11:07] <dimitern> frobware, hey, yeah - in 10m?
[11:08] <frobware> dimitern, 30m
[11:08] <dimitern> frobware, even better
[11:11] <frobware> dimitern, any chance you could join this https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/midokura.com/juju_openstack
[11:11] <dimitern> frobware, ok, just a sec..
[11:30] <frobware> dimitern, thanks
[11:30] <dimitern> frobware, I hope it was useful :) should we make the spaces call now?
[11:31] <frobware> dimitern, please
[11:39] <voidspace> dimitern: looks like we can get static ranges from the subnets api in maas 1.9
[11:39] <voidspace> dimitern: we have to fetch all the subnets (1 api call) and then make an additional call per subnet to get the range
[12:14] <voidspace> dimitern: a trivial one that should have been part of my last branch
[12:14] <voidspace> (oops)
[12:14] <voidspace> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3125/
[12:16] <voidspace> dimitern: in terms of the ListSpaces implementation for the maas provider
[12:16] <voidspace> dimitern: will we make it part of the networking environ interface?
[12:17] <voidspace> it will only be needed / used for maas
[12:17] <voidspace> but I think it will have to be part of the interface for autodiscovery to use it
[12:18] <voidspace> or I can provide a helper function that does it in the maas namespace, that casts a given provider to a maasEnviron and calls ListSpaces
[12:21] <dimitern> voidspace, looking
[12:22] <dimitern> voidspace, LGTM
[12:22] <voidspace> dimitern: thanks
[12:23] <dimitern> voidspace, yes, let's add a Spaces() method, taking no arguments for now (until we need filtering)
[12:23] <voidspace> dimitern: add to the interface?
[12:23] <dimitern> voidspace, yes, right after Subnets() should be a good place for it - don't you think?
[12:24] <voidspace> dimitern: well, we're extending the public interface for all providers solely for maas
[12:24] <voidspace> dimitern: so I quite liked the helper function idea
[12:24] <dimitern> voidspace, nope, we'll use that for all providers eventually
[12:24] <voidspace> if we ever get to shared spaces...
[12:25] <dimitern> voidspace, shared or not doesn't matter
[12:25] <dimitern> voidspace, EC2 can list your env spaces by looking at subnet tags + env uuid
[12:25] <voidspace> for EC2 you just check the model
[12:25] <dimitern> voidspace, or, it can list the global "shared" spaces, when we get there
[12:25] <voidspace> the model is the source of truth
[12:25] <voidspace> if we don't have shared spaces then juju is the source of truth about what spaces there are and you don't need to go to the provider
[12:25] <voidspace> it's only once you have shared spaces (as maas does) that you need to ask the provider
[12:26] <voidspace> but fair enough
[12:26] <voidspace> interface method it is
[12:26] <voidspace> in theory we might need it for other providers...
[12:26] <dimitern> voidspace, we can't get away without shared spaces I'm afraid, we're just postponing the moment where we need to deal with them
[12:26] <voidspace> I'm sceptical it will become the highest priority any time soon
[12:26] <voidspace> but time will tell
[12:27] <dimitern> indeed\
[12:36] <voidspace> dimitern: my current card (subnet api) may take a bit longer than I imagined (maybe an extra day)
[12:36] <voidspace> dimitern: the code itself is simple, but I'll need to extend the gomaasapi test server again...
[12:39] <dimitern> voidspace, sure
[12:40] <dimitern> voidspace, it needs to work and be tested with both legacy and new APIs, and Subnets() is a big part of "maas spaces (basic) support" (the other main part is what dooferlad is doing after bootstrap)
[12:43] <voidspace> dimitern: gah, the "reserved_ip_ranges" operation on maas lists all the ip ranges *except* the static range
[12:43] <voidspace> so you can deduce it
[12:43] <voidspace> I might just take the whole cidr minus the dynamic range
[12:43] <voidspace> the other ranges are single ips for the gateway and cluster
[12:43] <dimitern> voidspace, that's not entirely correct
[12:43] <voidspace> dimitern: which bit
[12:44] <voidspace> I guess it might not be correct
[12:44] <dimitern> voidspace, static-range != cidr - dynamic-range
[12:44] <voidspace> right
[12:44] <dimitern> voidspace, as there might be IPs in neither of the ranges
[12:47] <dimitern> voidspace, however, looking at http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/api.html (development trunk version)
[12:47] <voidspace> dimitern: there's unreserved range too
[12:47] <dimitern> voidspace, there's op=statistics, which claims to include "subnet ranges - the specific IP ranges present in ths subnet (if specified)"
[12:47] <dimitern> and even better:
[12:47] <dimitern> Optional arguments: include_ranges: if True, includes detailed information about the usage of this range
[12:48] <dimitern> voidspace, I'll give it a go on my maas now as it has all ranges set
[12:48] <voidspace> dimitern: the static range there is included as "unused" and is the same range as returned by unused_ip_ranges
[12:48] <voidspace> dimitern: I'm going to try reducing the size of the static range (so there are genuinely unused portions of the cidr) and see what happens
[12:49] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, good idea
[12:50] <voidspace> dimitern: my static range is defined to start at 172.16.0.4 - but the unused range starts at 3
[12:51] <dimitern> voidspace, perfect! see this: $ maas hw-root subnet statistics 2 include_ranges=True -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13238168/
[12:51] <dimitern> subnet 2 is my pxe subnet - 10.14.0.0/20
[12:51] <perrito666> fwereade_: priv ping me when you are around plz
[12:52] <voidspace> dimitern: nope
[12:52] <voidspace> dimitern: on my maas the static range starts at 172.16.0.4
[12:52] <voidspace> dimitern: however the "unused" range reported by statistics (and by unreserved_ip_range) starts at 172.16.0.3
[12:53] <voidspace> dimitern: I've updated my bug report
[12:53] <dimitern> voidspace, all of the "unused" ranges are part of the static range (10.14.0.100 - 10.14.1.200 as defined on the cluster interface; dhcp range is 10.14.0.30-.90)
[12:54] <voidspace> dimitern: the cluster configuration has "Static IP range low value" set to 172.16.0.4
[12:54] <voidspace> dimitern: are you saying that ignoring that is the correct behaviour?
[12:55] <dimitern> voidspace, what do you mean?
[12:55] <voidspace> dimitern: I'm talking about my maas here
[12:55] <voidspace> dimitern: I have static IP range low value set to 172.16.0.4
[12:55] <dimitern> voidspace, ok
[12:55] <voidspace> dimitern: but the range reported as unused/unreserved returns the low value as 172.16.0.3
[12:55] <voidspace> dimitern: it isn't returning the static range (as defined on the cluster interface)
[12:55] <dimitern> voidspace, is 172.16.0.4 used for anything?
[12:55] <voidspace> dimitern: but is returning the portion of the cidr unused by anything else
[12:56] <voidspace> dimitern: that's the low bounds of the static range
[12:56] <voidspace> it isn't used, but I don't see that it's relevant
[12:56] <dimitern> voidspace, check the web ui for the subnet - e.g. http://10.14.0.1/MAAS/#/subnet/2 in my case
[12:56] <dimitern> voidspace, ah, I see you point
[12:57] <dimitern> voidspace, "unused" includes IPs not part of static range
[12:57] <dimitern> voidspace, but not assigned, cluster, or dynamic ips
[12:58] <voidspace> dimitern: correct
[12:58] <voidspace> dimitern: in #juju on canonical, roaksox is saying that it doesn't matter and we should use the unreserved range anyway
[12:58] <voidspace> dimitern: and in 2.0 the static range is going away
[12:58] <dimitern> voidspace, awesome news!
[12:58] <dimitern> :)
[12:58] <voidspace> presumably it will just be implied from cidr - dynamic range
[12:59] <dimitern> voidspace, the let's just do that and not use the node group interfaces
[12:59] <voidspace> dimitern: yep
[12:59] <dimitern> voidspace, then the bug I asked you to file is moot and can be closed
[12:59] <voidspace> dimitern: it's done
[13:00] <dimitern> voidspace, cheers
[13:07] <voidspace> perrito666: are you moonstone?
[13:07] <perrito666> voidspace: I am not
[13:08] <voidspace> perrito666: ok
[13:27] <voidspace> tests failed because "your quota allows for 0 more running instance(s). You requested at least 1"
[13:27] <voidspace> *sigh*
[13:29] <voidspace> dimitern: hmmmm... the networks api we're currently using for subnets allows filtering by nodeId (which we use)
[13:29] <voidspace> dimitern: I don't think the new subnets api does
[13:30] <voidspace> checking
[13:32] <dimitern> voidspace, well, provided you use static IPs for all your nodes, this seems to work for me: $ maas hw-juju subnet ip-addresses 2 with_nodes=True -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13238364/
[13:33] <voidspace> dimitern: so, request all subnets, request all ip addresses with node information, then request the unreserved range for every subnet
[13:33] <voidspace> that's hardly simpler than what we currently have :-D
[13:33] <voidspace> but we'll have space information
[13:33] <voidspace> and we do the filtering rather than have maas do it
[13:34] <voidspace> matching allocated addresses to subnets to do the node filtering
[13:34] <voidspace> and that's a bunch of stuff to add to the test server as well :-/
[13:35] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah :/ it seems we still need 3 API calls
[13:35] <dimitern> voidspace, but not every time
[13:35] <voidspace> well, we need 1 plus 1 per subnet
[13:35] <voidspace> and if we're filtering by instance id an extra one
[13:35] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah
[13:36] <voidspace> although for that case we can trim down the number of subnets we need to query
[13:39] <voidspace> dimitern: hmmm... ec2 provider allows subnetIds to be empty (meaning list all subnets)
[13:39] <voidspace> dimitern: and I remember a bug about that
[13:39] <voidspace> dimitern: maas doesn't allow that
[13:41] <voidspace> dimitern: apiserver/subnets/subnets.go calls netEnv.Subnets with an empty slice of subnet ids
[13:41] <voidspace> dimitern: that will fail on maas
[13:41] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, because we had no way of linking networks to nodes apart from going via the cluster interfaces
[13:42] <voidspace> dimitern: I guess it didn't matter when ec2 was the only platform supporting spaces
[13:42] <voidspace> dimitern: but that needs fixing too
[13:43] <voidspace> I bet "juju subnets list" fails for maas
[13:43] <dimitern> voidspace, well, can't it return an error with empty subnetIDs only for the new api?
[13:43] <voidspace> dimitern: other way round
[13:43] <dimitern> voidspace, nope, it won't fail as it doesn't hit maas at all - just state
[13:43] <voidspace> dimitern: it currently returns an error for empty subnetIds
[13:43] <dimitern> voidspace, yeah, you got me :)
[13:44] <voidspace> apiserver/subnets/subnets.go calls netEnv.Subnets
[13:44] <voidspace> dimitern: in cacheSubnets
[13:44] <dimitern> voidspace, that's for "subnet add" only
[13:45] <voidspace> dimitern: ah, fair enough
[13:45] <voidspace> maybe not an issue then
[13:45] <voidspace> I won't fix it until we need to
[13:45] <dimitern> voidspace, +1
[13:46] <dimitern> oh dear.. ci's f*cked again - euca-run-instances: error (InstanceLimitExceeded): Your quota allows for 0 more running instance(s). You requested at least 1
[13:46] <voidspace> yep
[13:56] <mgz_> dimitern: hm, the gating job? I'll see what else is up in ec2.
[13:59] <dimitern> mgz_, yeah, and we were seeing some weired unit test failures from a parallel universe :) where state.machineDoc doesn't have Principals field (added my aram originally IIRC)
[14:01] <mgz_> are you sure the deps are correct? Ci beuilds a completely clean tarball, which is not the same thing as building out of a local GOPATH
[14:02] <cherylj> frobware: I know it's a bit late, but I did verify that your fix resolved the EMPTYCONFIG problem I ran into on maas
[14:02] <dimitern> mgz_, well, something's fishy for sure, as machineDoc has "Principals []string" - no omitempty or anything, so it will be there, unless mongo returns bogus docs from the collection
[14:02] <frobware> cherylj, which fix? setting static IP range, or the fix I committed yesterday?
[14:03] <mgz_> er, that's not good, the jenkins web ui just went down
[14:03] <cherylj> frobware: I just checked with the latest master, since I saw you had already merged http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3102/
[14:03] <frobware> cherylj, result!
[14:05] <cherylj> frobware: I think we're going to try to cut a 1.25.1 soon. Should I move the 1.25 milestone for bug 1412621 to 1.25.2? or do you think you'll get to make the fix for 1.25 in the next day or so?
[14:05] <mup> Bug #1412621: replica set EMPTYCONFIG MAAS bootstrap <adoption> <bootstrap> <bug-squad> <charmers> <cpec> <cpp> <maas-provider> <mongodb> <oil> <juju-core:Fix Committed by frobware> <juju-core 1.24:Won't Fix> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412621>
[14:05] <frobware> cherylj, happening now/this afternoon. Was on my list.
[14:05] <cherylj> frobware: oh awesome, thanks!
[14:06] <cherylj> mgz_: do you think you'll get bug 1512399 merged into 1.25 in the next day or so?
[14:06] <mup> Bug #1512399: ERROR environment destruction failed: destroying storage: listing volumes: Get https://x.x.x.x:8776/v2/<UUID>/volumes/detail: local error: record overflow <amulet> <bug-squad> <openstack> <sts> <uosci> <Go OpenStack Exchange:In Progress by gz> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core
[14:06] <mup> 1.25:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512399>
[14:06] <cherylj> mgz_: because we should probably get that into 1.25.1
[14:09] <beisner> cherylj, mgz - yes please :-) bundletester + openstack provider is in always-false-fail mode atm.
[14:10] <mgz_> cherylj: yeah, I should have that finished this week
[14:10] <cherylj> ok, thanks, mgz_ !
[14:21] <frobware> dimitern, ok to close http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3088/ as we're not doing 1.24?
[14:35] <dimitern> frobware, yeah, I wanted to keep the branch around until I forward port it, but the PR and RB entries can be closed
[14:37] <dimitern> frobware, done
[14:37] <frobware> dimitern, thanks
[14:54] <mup> Bug #1515647 opened: Upgrade from 1.20.11 to 1.24.7 fails after machine-0 jujud updates <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515647>
[15:00] <mup> Bug #1515647 changed: Upgrade from 1.20.11 to 1.24.7 fails after machine-0 jujud updates <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515647>
[15:03] <frobware> dimitern, could I leverage your expertise ... ?
[15:05] <dimitern> frobware, can it wait for a while? trying to do a few things at once here..
[15:05] <frobware> dimitern, ok I'll pester voidspace. Need some help with the vanguard issue ^^
[15:07] <voidspace> frobware: shouldn't bug squad do it
[15:08] <voidspace> I'm trying to do feature work after two weeks on bug squad
[15:15] <mup> Bug #1515647 opened: Upgrade from 1.20.11 to 1.24.7 fails after machine-0 jujud updates <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515647>
[15:22] <katco> ericsnow: natefinch: sorry ubuntu froze on me. it's going to be a bit of a day i can tell
[15:23] <natefinch> katco: heh no problem, we're just bullshitting about providers
[15:23] <frobware> voidspace, bug squad picked it up; wasn't sure of the process.
[15:33] <frobware> cherylj, replica set issue committed for 1.25 now - https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1412621
[15:33] <mup> Bug #1412621: replica set EMPTYCONFIG MAAS bootstrap <adoption> <bootstrap> <bug-squad> <charmers> <cpec> <cpp> <maas-provider> <mongodb> <oil> <juju-core:Fix Committed by frobware> <juju-core 1.24:Won't Fix> <juju-core 1.25:Fix Committed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412621>
[15:33] <cherylj> awesome, thanks, frobware !
[15:51] <voidspace> frobware: cool
[16:01] <cherylj> fwereade_: you around?
[16:23] <fwereade_> cherylj, heyhey
[16:23] <fwereade_> cherylj, sorry I missed you
[16:23] <fwereade_> cherylj, what can I do for you?
[16:30] <cherylj> fwereade_: thanks for the additional info on the instancepoller. I think that will help simplify some of the work.
[16:31] <cherylj> fwereade_: but, how would we track the instance progress with lxc?
[16:31] <cherylj> fwereade_: do you have any thoughts on that?
[16:32] * fwereade_ scratches head vaguely -- not sure how granular the info we can get from lxd is -- is .Status() intrinsically limited there?
[16:32] <fwereade_> cherylj, if we use the cloudinit2 report-progress-back, would that help?
[16:32] <cherylj> fwereade_: the problem is that all the "interesting things" happen before we return an instance back from StartInstance
[16:33] <fwereade_> cherylj, ah damn yes ofc
[16:33] <alexisb> voidspace, ping
[16:34] * fwereade_ reloading context a bit...
[16:34] <fwereade_> cherylj, I think that callback is the cleanest option...
[16:34] <fwereade_> cherylj, so I don't *think* we need additional workers
[16:35] <cherylj> fwereade_: what do you mean by callback?
[16:36] <fwereade_> cherylj, so StartInstanceParams gets something like `StatusCallback func(InstanceStatus, string)`
[16:36] <voidspace> alexisb: popng
[16:36] <voidspace> *pong even
[16:37] <alexisb> voidspace, 1x1?
[16:37] <voidspace> alexisb: ah yes!
[16:37] <voidspace> sorry
[16:37] <alexisb> :)
[16:38] <fwereade_> cherylj, if we need more special tracking after StartInstance I'd hope we could get it via InstancePoller like everything else (with an option on a cloudinit2 alternative/supplement to instancepoller one day)
[16:39] <cherylj> fwereade_: the alternative is that we make creating container asynchronous. We do enough to get the instance Id, return it to the provisioner, then start a goroutine and go about our merry way
[16:41] <fwereade_> cherylj, I would prefer not to -- that'd imply that the lxd broker had to accept long-term responsibility for completing the deployment in the face of all possible weirdness
[16:42] <cherylj> fwereade_: it would move that retry logic into the container code :)
[16:43] <cherylj> fwereade_: I think even with a callback, we have a chicken and egg problem
[16:43] <fwereade_> cherylj, but also add a bunch of responsibility for maintaining local state, surely?
[16:44] <cherylj> fwereade_: if we report provisioning status on an instance, not a machine
[16:44] <cherylj> fwereade_: we still need that instance back from StartInstance before we can report its status
[16:44] <fwereade_> cherylj, I'm imagining a StatusCallback implementation will be something like
[16:45] <mup> Bug #1515647 changed: Upgrade from 1.20.11 to 1.24.7 fails after machine-0 jujud updates <juju-core:Invalid by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515647>
[16:45] <fwereade_> func(status InstanceStatus, info string) error {
[16:45] <fwereade_> if err := machine.SetInstanceStatus(status, info, nil); err != nil {
[16:46] <fwereade_> / etc
[16:46] <cherylj> fwereade_: and we could do that before we associate an instance with the machine?
[16:47] <fwereade_> cherylj, I think so -- model-wise, instance data is just a satellite of the machine entity -- and so is machine status, and so I think can be instance status
[16:47] <cherylj> fwereade_: okay, I can dig more down that path. Thanks!
[16:48] <mup> Bug #1515647 opened: Upgrade from 1.20.11 to 1.24.7 fails after machine-0 jujud updates <juju-core:Invalid by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515647>
[16:48] <fwereade_> so machine has .[Set]Status(), and [Set]InstanceStatus, and there's some AggregateStatus that takes the output of both to build the user-facing status doc
[16:49] <fwereade_> cherylj, (and that way we can represent doing-stuff-but-no-instance-id-yet in status)
[16:49] <cherylj> fwereade_: ahhh, nice
[16:49] <fwereade_> cherylj, a pleasure
[16:51] <mup> Bug #1515647 changed: Upgrade from 1.20.11 to 1.24.7 fails after machine-0 jujud updates <juju-core:Invalid by cox-katherine-e> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515647>
[17:02] <katco> ericsnow: can you have a look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3004/ when you have a chance?
[17:04] <ericsnow> katco: will do
[17:06] <katco> ericsnow: ty
[17:41] <dooferlad> frobware, voidspace: Tiny review if you have a moment: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3127/
[18:26] <voidspace> dooferlad: didn't I already do that...
[18:27] <voidspace> dooferlad: it's already on maas-spaces branch
[18:28] <voidspace> dooferlad: it shouldn't land on master
[19:15] <mup> Bug #1515736 opened: juju storage filesystem list panics and dumps stack trace <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515736>
[19:15] <mbruzek> hi mup that is my bug.
[19:16] <mbruzek> Who is working on the storage feature? I found a panic that mup just pointed out.
[19:17] <mbruzek> oh I see cherylj already triaged it.
[19:17] <mbruzek> Thank you cherylj
[19:18] <cherylj> mbruzek: np. I can fix that later this afternoon. Super simple problem
[19:19] <cherylj> But it is surprising that it landed. Means no one tried to actually run the command
[19:19] <cherylj> I guess it didn't get hit because of the mocking that happens in our unit tests
[19:20] <cherylj> mbruzek: do you want me to give you a patched juju to run until the bug is fixed?
[19:20] <mbruzek> cherylj: no need
[19:20] <cherylj> k
[19:21] <thumper> rick_h_: we don't need this meeting in 10 minutes do we?
[19:21] <thumper> rick_h_: although we do need to talk about environment users
[19:22] <mbruzek> cherylj: I am just glad it is triage, no hurry on the fix. I am trying to document the storage feature
[19:22] <rick_h_> thumper: up to you, I tried to make sure we had a space in case we did need it
[19:22] <cherylj> mbruzek: ah, okay. Thanks for helping us find these issues ;)
[19:22] * thumper thinks
[19:25] <thumper> rick_h_: yeah, lets chat
[19:31] <mbruzek> cherylj: who wrote the storage feature? I have questions.
[19:31] <cherylj> mbruzek: axw
[19:55] <natefinch> sometimes I forget how crazy slow amazon is
[19:56] <perrito666> natefinch: compared to what?
[19:57] <natefinch> perrito666: the local provider, lxd provider... any machine built in the past 5 years
[19:57] <perrito666> lol, well if you count the amount of time I spend fixing my machine after some local provider tests I wouldn't be so sure
[20:00] <natefinch> perrito666: that's why the lxd provider is so awesome. I wish our providers were plugins, so I could just use the lxd provider on my current bug (which is on 1.24)
[20:18] <mup> Bug #1515401 changed: destroy-environment leaving jujud on manual machines <ci> <destroy-environment> <manual-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core series-in-metadata:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515401>
[20:21] <mup> Bug #1515401 opened: destroy-environment leaving jujud on manual machines <ci> <destroy-environment> <manual-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core series-in-metadata:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515401>
[20:24] <mup> Bug #1515401 changed: destroy-environment leaving jujud on manual machines <ci> <destroy-environment> <manual-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core series-in-metadata:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515401>
[21:55] * fwereade_ has that unique sinking feeling when he finally finds a strange-looking goroutine at the bottom of the timeout and it leads back to code that... I saw earlier today and annotated with an "I don't think this is right"
[22:31] <cherylj> wallyworld: release standup?
[22:40] <katco> natefinch: looks like master if open
[22:42] <katco> natefinch: kicked off a merge for you
[23:56] <davecheney> thumper: lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/utils) % ls
[23:56] <davecheney> package_test.go syslog yaml.go
[23:56] <davecheney> gettting there
[23:57] <davecheney> yaml.go is next on the chopping block
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[16:23] <DoctorD90> devs online? looking for devs about issue in web page :)
[17:09] <cjohnston> DoctorD90: you can file a bug.. most of the pages have a link to file bugs at the bottom
[17:10] <DoctorD90> cjohnston, ok, i go to check for it, one moment :)
[17:11] <DoctorD90> cjohnston, sorry, i cant find it out. page is http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx if you can aim me at this link, i will write a message
[17:12] <cjohnston> DoctorD90: It's at the bottom
[17:12] <DoctorD90> issue is that it is useless to convert iso in img. dd makes no difference between img and iso...for me is useless convert it, and it may creates misunderstanding in new users :P
[17:12] <cjohnston> report a bug
[17:13] <DoctorD90> cjohnston, Report a bug on this site
[17:13] <DoctorD90> Got to the top of the page << ?? do you mean this one?
[17:13] <DoctorD90> if yes, it was covered by cookie policy banner :P
[17:13] <cjohnston> "Report a bug on this site" yes
[17:21] <DoctorD90> ok, it was covered by banner :) thx cjohnston ! i write them immediatly :) thx man!
[17:21] <cjohnston> np
[17:29] <DoctorD90> cjohnston, lol https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1486375
[17:29] <DoctorD90> somebody has yet marked it as useless :P
[17:32] <DoctorD90> i can make sweety dreams. Bye :)
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[06:04] <turist> How can free to watch Australian television over the Internet?
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:09] <mcphail> Hario: I think wakelocks are disabled by design
[00:10] <Hario> why? may i ask
[00:11] <Hario> they can be useful
[00:13] <mcphail> Hario: battery saving. Everything gets suspended or killed
[00:14] <mcphail> Hario: I think the logterm goal is to expose similar functions through frameworks
[00:14] <Hario> yeah, but say, i want to make download manager or torrent app
[00:15] <Hario> it kills the doesnloads
[00:15] <Hario> *downloads
[00:15] <mcphail> Hario: yep. You're supposed to use the frameworks for that
[00:15] <Hario> so, is currently not possible?
[00:16] <mcphail> Hario: not without using the framework, or an exploit
[00:16] <Hario> is the framework documented?
[00:16] <mcphail> Hario: yes, I think so. I haven't used it myself
[00:17] <mcphail> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/Ubuntu.DownloadManager/
[00:20] <mcphail> Hario: alternatively, you can use an exploit. I have a syncthing app on the store which doesn't spawn a GUI, so is not controlled by lifecycle management. It is an exploit which will be closed "soon", but still worked when I last checked. Not very user friendly, though
[00:22] <Hario> could it be used for torrents?
[00:22] <Hario> the framework
[00:22] <Hario> wait, you said you haven'r used it
[00:22] <mcphail> Hario: I don't think the framework would work for torrents
[00:23] <mcphail> Hario: I don't hink a background torrent app would work without the exploit I described
[00:34] <Hario> mcphail: mmm, is the syncthing app open source? i'd like to look at the exploit, probably won't use it anyway, just a bit curious
[00:36] <mcphail> Hario: just download the .click file and unzip it. I've just wrapped the upstream syncthing binary - https://uappexplorer.com/app/syncthing.njmcphail
[00:37] <mcphail> actually, not sure if you can download directly from there. Sure there is a way, though...
[00:38] <Hario> yeah, can't download
[00:40] <mcphail> Hario: one moment - I have a tarball somewhere
[00:46] <mcphail> Hario: http://themcphails.uk/stc.tar.bz2
[00:46] <Hario> oh thanks
[00:47] <mcphail> Hario: basically, it is just a shell script to start the service
[00:49] <Hario> so, bash scripts are not suspended?
[00:49] <mcphail> Hario: not if they don't create a GUI
[00:49] <Hario> lol
[00:50] <mcphail> Hario: but bash scripts need to pack lot of things along with them as they don't have access to all the usual utilities. You'll see I had to pack "sed" in the package
[00:53] <mcphail> Hario: but expect the hole to be closed "soon"
[00:58] <mcphail> anyway, bedtime here. goodnight
[01:06] <Hario> good night
[02:46] <Vijay_> Ubuntu touch on nexus 7 2012
[04:41] <moegyi> hey guys
[04:41] <moegyi> nice to meet you all
[04:42] <moegyi> i want to install ubuntu os on my phone
[04:42] <moegyi> let me learn from you
[04:42] <moegyi> please
[04:42] <moegyi> what's it i need to install ?
[04:48] <moegyi> hi
[04:49] <moegyi> nice to meet you
[05:15] <JMD> Hi, first you need a machine running ubuntu, even a virtual machine
[05:16] <JMD> And a compatible device, I use a Nexus 4
[05:17] <JMD> It's all here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[07:39] <JMD> afternoon!
[08:06] <zzarr> Hello! Ohh... I'm so looking forward to OTA-8 :-)
[08:28] <pstolowski> Saviq, hey, have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1494889 ? it has been targeted for ota9 and assigned to alecu. i think it's all on unity8 side though; for us it will be just doc update
[10:12] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Pizza With The Works Except Anchovies Day! 😃
[10:24] <drwd> Hello anyone on here? I have a question about wifi and hexadecimal key.
[10:28] <ramsesHD> Hello. is there any working SIP client on Ubuntu Touch?
[10:42] <alexforsale> i got this in my dmesg: unity-system-co: page allocation failure: order:0, mode:0xd0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13237531/ anybody knows what it means?
[12:46] <vishnudev> guys anyone got answer for this ?
[12:46] <vishnudev> http://askubuntu.com/questions/697155/how-to-make-a-flashable-zip-of-ubuntu-touch
[12:46] <vishnudev> I've executed make -j6
[12:46] <vishnudev> and it was success full
[12:49] <slo> Is it possible to get the OTA-7 installed on the Meizu MX4?
[12:50] <slo> I can't seem to get it from the About->Updates
[12:51] <ogra_> slo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-7 if you use the stable channel you should automatically have it
[12:51] <jgdx> slo, r6 is OTA7
[12:52] <slo> Im on r4
[12:52] <ogra_> and you are on the stable channel ?
[12:53] <slo> I think so, its all original
[13:01] <slo> yuep, stable/meizu.en
[13:10] <ahayzen> Hi, I've noticed that if my phone is trying to connect to eduroam and is failing/in progress, and then I move away from the hotspot (eg on a bus) it still appears in the list like its still connecting and no network works until i switch WiFi off and on again, has anyone else had this before?
[14:08] <mardy> tvoss: I've to confess that I'm quite lost in the code
[14:08] <tvoss> mardy, hangout?
[14:09] <tvoss> mardy, or better: gimme 30 until I have stabilized my wifi connection
[14:09] <mardy> tvoss: I'm in a café for 1-2 hours
[14:09] <tvoss> mardy, so no ho for you?
[14:10] <mardy> tvoss: nah... maybe we can talk here in IRC; I guess the source of the confusion is the many files around:
[14:10] <mcphail> ahayzen: yes
[14:10] <mardy> tvoss: I spot a pattern with a class having {skeleton,stub,implementation}.cpp files, but I'm not sure of their roles
[14:11] <tvoss> mardy, so you have got an interface in general (in include), then you have a stub for the client side, and a skeleton for the service side
[14:11] <tvoss> stub and skeleton take care of handling communication, nothing more
[14:12] <tvoss> the interesting bits are all in implementation.cpp
[14:12] <mardy> tvoss: skeleton is for D-Bus?
[14:12] <tvoss> yup, so is stub
[14:12] <ahayzen> mcphail, yes to the wifi issue? if so do you know if there is a bug tracking it?
[14:13] <mcphail> ahayzen: I was waiting to see if the dbus wifi bug fixed it before filing one
[14:13] <ahayzen> mcphail, i'm on the latest rc-proposed, are there silo's still to land?
[14:14] <mcphail> ahayzen: not sure. There was a fix in a silo which was _about_ to be landed a day or 2 ago
[14:14] <ahayzen> hmm, it might not be fixed then :-/
[14:14] <mcphail> bug 1480877
[14:15] <ahayzen> mcphail, note this is not when going out of range of one that you have *connected* to...
[14:15] <mcphail> ahayzen: bug was already marked as "fix released" before ota-7, but it was only a partial fix
[14:15] <mardy> tvoss: mmm... so libubuntu-location-service is to be used both by the client and the service?
[14:15] <ahayzen> mcphail, this is specifically if it is failing to connect but still trying
[14:15] <tvoss> mardy, yup
[14:15] <ahayzen> mcphail, and then you go out of range, then it seems to just keep trying even though its not there
[14:16] <mardy> tvoss: ok, so I can ignore the stubs as long as I work on the service only
[14:16] <tvoss> mardy, yup
[14:16] <mcphail> ahayzen: mine doesn't even try to connect to eduroam (as i don't have access to it anyway), but it stays on my wifi access point list even when I leave and i sometimes struggle to get connected to my home wifi without switching off/on
[14:16] <ahayzen> mcphail, well that the trimming of the list seems to be fixed
[14:18] <mcphail> ahayzen: I can't run rc-proposed 9as I need phone for work) but I'll let you know if I still get the problem after the next OTA
[14:18] <ahayzen> mcphail, yeah, i'll continue playing about :-) maybe there are still some bits to land
[14:18] <mcphail> ahayzen: to be honest, i keep the wifi switched off when I leave the house now due to the bug mentioned above
[14:19] <ahayzen> yeah but i want it to disconnect from eduroam and connect to the bus :')
[14:20] * mcphail wonders which circle of hell networkmanager inhabits
[14:20] <ahayzen> hah
[14:21] <mcphail> ahayzen: interesting thing is a lot of people who had the dbus bug had it when near eduroam access points as well. Don't know if it is a simple coincidence
[14:21] <mcphail> I suppose eduroam access points are very common
[14:21] <ogra_> mcphail, you'll have to ask one of the dark priests like awe or cyphermox
[14:21] <ahayzen> when you are on a university campus or university town yes they are :-)
[14:22] <ogra_> they can tell you what to sacrifice to reach which circle of hell to fix NM
[14:22] * awe doesn't know whether to be offended by the work "dark" or the word "priest". ;D
[14:22] <ogra_> :D
[14:22] <mcphail> awe: if you are going to be one, you're as well also being the other
[14:22] <awe> mcphail, which "dbus bug"
[14:22] <awe> mcphail, ;/
[14:22] <mcphail> bug 1480877
[14:23] <awe> mcphail, I've been working on it for close to 2 weeks
[14:23] <awe> we're pretty sure we understand the underlying cause(s)
[14:23] <awe> but we're still working on fixing it ( in at least two places )
[14:23] <mcphail> awe: I was hearing one of the current silos has a near-fix
[14:23] <awe> not quite yet
[14:23] <mcphail> awe: when you get it fixed, I will buy you a pint
[14:24] <awe> so the basic cause is that we have multiple system daemons that are endlessly added DBus match rules to watch NM signals
[14:24] <ahayzen> awe, i seem to have an issue where, for certain eduroam connections it won't connect so it keeps spinning, then when you move out of range of the access point it still tries to connect to it and blocks other connections (cellular data) until i flip wifi off/on again
[14:24] <awe> and these processes never cleanup these rules when the APs go away
[14:24] <awe> ahayzen, that's a different issue
[14:25] <ahayzen> awe, is that report somewhere?
[14:25] <ahayzen> or do i need to make a new bug?
[14:25] <awe> not that I'm aware of
[14:25] * mcphail needs to put down his sandwich and get back to work
[14:25] <awe> I would suggest filing a new bug, however until we fix this perf problem
[14:25] <awe> it won't see much attention
[14:26] <ahayzen> awe, cool, against network-manager (ubuntu) or indicator-network (ubuntu) .. or?
[14:26] <awe> mcphail, also in vivid, the per process match rule limit was increased from 512
[14:26] <awe> to 5k
[14:26] <awe> which means if you have 8 process all adding AccessPoint object match rules
[14:26] <awe> and they all max out
[14:27] <awe> the dbus daemon could have ~40k match rules to consider for each message sent on the bus
[14:27] <awe> bad
[14:27] <awe> bad
[14:27] <awe> bad
[14:27] <awe> one source is code in loc services, the other appears to be in Qt
[14:27] <ogra_> why do we allow match rules at all ?
[14:27] <awe> it's a fundemental dbus mechanism
[14:27] <awe> it doesn't work without them
[14:28] <ogra_> instead of having a proxy process that handles matching once
[14:28] <awe> read the spec dude
[14:28] <awe> ;)-
[14:28] <ogra_> pfft specs ... :P
[14:28] <awe> basically this is how process (a) says... I want to see signals from process (b)
[14:28] <ogra_> right, but if you flood the bus having a proxy would be better
[14:29] <tvoss> ogra_, the bus is the proxy
[14:29] <ogra_> so you match once and notify the other listeners instead
[14:29] <ogra_> tvoss, yeah, but thats bad design if you can hog it by to many requests
[14:29] <tvoss> ogra_, how would the proxy know about the listeners? ;)
[14:30] <tvoss> ogra_, not debating that, pub-sub is just difficult in these scenarios
[14:30] <ogra_> well, the listeners would have to register with the proxy instead of listening directly on the bus
[14:31] <tvoss> ogra_, so that only moves the problem
[14:31] <ogra_> it moves it out of the global bus though ... wheer you have other stuff going on that you dont want to slow down
[14:32] <tvoss> ogra_, sure, it does not solve the underlying problem, though
[14:33] <ogra_> it cleans up traffic
[14:33] <tvoss> on one bus, by migrating it to another
[14:34] <ogra_> well, i should have said it splits the traffic ... but indeed you are right
[14:34] <tvoss> at any rate, nothing we can do about the design right now, it is what it is
[14:36] * ogra_ wonders how that design will work with kdbus ... will we saturate the kernel eventually ? :)
[14:37] <tvoss> iirc, the match rule matching leverages a bloom filter to speed up
[14:37] <tvoss> avoiding the O(n) iteration in a lot of cases
[14:37] <tvoss> not all of them, though
[15:01] <mardy> tvoss: would you mind a very quick look? https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/last-known-position/+merge/277358
[15:01] <tvoss> mardy, in 10, finishing an iteration on the trust-store MP
[15:02] <mardy> tvoss: it's the dumb implementation with no accuracy reduction, but I'd like to know if the logic is correct (and in the correct place)
[15:02] <mardy> I only verified that it builds :-)
[15:02] <tvoss> mardy, ack
[15:11] <awe> ogra_, we have bugs in our high level dbus bindings that are causing the issue(s)
[15:11] <awe> in theory, this kind of thing shouldn't happen
[15:11] <ogra_> ah
[15:11] <awe> but dbus offeres a lot of rope
[15:11] <awe> and in this case
[15:12] <awe> we've tied ourselves into knots
[15:12] <awe> so yea, kdbus would choke too
[15:12] <ogra_> heh, fun
[15:47] <tvoss> mardy, yup, that looks good
[15:47] <tvoss> mardy, but please avoid &
[15:48] <tvoss> mardy, you want a weak_ptr in this specific case, to avoid keeping the session instance alive
[15:50] <mardy> tvoss: OK, thanks
[15:50] <tvoss> mardy, also updated https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-voss/trust-store/fix-1504022/+merge/277266 according to your comment
[15:54] <tvoss> mardy, hang on, need to push one other revision
[15:56] <tvoss> mardy, good to go
[15:56] <mardy> tvoss: OK. BTW, why are you searching the filename as a substring, instead of adding ".desktop" and looking for a match?
[15:57] <tvoss> mardy, that's essentially the same, isn't it?
[15:59] <mardy> tvoss: actually, you are also comparing the name 338-343 of the diff, so my question is what are the lines 329-336 for
[16:01] <tvoss> mardy, those mimick http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/plugins/security-privacy/trust-store-model.cpp#L94 following
[16:08] <attente> Elleo: hey, have you seen a maliit bug where tapping a key on the osk causes the character to appear twice in the pre-edit?
[16:09] <Elleo> attente: I've seen that on X11, haven't had a chance to dig into it though
[16:09] <Elleo> attente: is it happening on phone devices for you too?
[16:10] <attente> Elleo: no, just X11. i tried checking out an older source tree, but it still exists. so i'm thinking maybe it's an ubuntu-keyboard plugin bug
[16:10] <Elleo> attente: yeah, quite possibly
[16:11] <Elleo> attente: might be something different in mouse handling to touch handling
[16:11] <Elleo> as I know we have our own custom touch area stuff for handling multitouch
[16:11] <Elleo> so could be something goes wrong there with mice with respect to press/release
[16:11] <attente> Elleo: ok, thanks for the tips. i'll investigate further
[16:12] <Elleo> attente: cool, let me know what you find
[16:12] <attente> will do
[16:23] <jdstrand> mzanetti: hey, curious. I setup my authenticator for use with github and it seems to work fine, but when I open authenticator, the github account has a timer and keeps cycling through. I guess this is intended?
[16:23] <mzanetti> jdstrand, heh, yes
[16:24] <mzanetti> jdstrand, there are 2 ways for OTP, HOTP (as sso.ubuntu.com) or TOTP (like github)
[16:24] <mzanetti> one is counter based, the other time interval based
[16:24] <mzanetti> 90% of services I know out there use TOTP
[16:24] <mzanetti> in face sso.ubuntu.com is the only one I have that uses HOTP
[16:24] <mzanetti> fact
[16:25] <jdstrand> interesting. thanks! :)
[16:51] <mardy> tvoss: approved
[16:51] <tvoss> mardy, ack and thx
[18:20] <jaywink> hey all. anyone got any tips on how to proceed with an aquaris 4.5 stuck on boot on the bq logo on white background? this happened when rebooting on flashing the ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/krillin.en-proposed -channel. any other options to get into recovery than waiting for the battery to end?
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> jaywink: why did you use the image instead of factory reset?
[18:23] <jaywink> lotuspsychje, I just wanted to try the bleeding edge stuff, not do a reset to stable
[18:23] <jaywink> (yes I know the risks :))
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> ok np just asking
[18:25] <jaywink> ok it seems holding power for a looooooooooong time booted. didn't just try long enough. booting to recovery now, hope that works ;)
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> jaywink: idle here if you cant get it fixxed
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> jaywink: devs will wake up at other times for sure
[18:29] <jaywink> sure thanks. just flashing a ubuntu-touch/devel/krillin.en in fastboot
[18:40] <jaywink> OK I guess the problem was this in both flashes (last one failed too): Failed to enter Recovery .. found this AU: http://askubuntu.com/questions/602035/how-do-i-use-ubuntu-device-flash-with-the-bq-aquaris-e4-5-and-aquaris-e5 ... if a recovery image is always needed for production phones (it's installing now once I tried with that), should probably say that in https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-
[18:40] <jaywink> ubuntu-for-devices/ page?
[19:05] <JanC> how (not) to do mobile phone security... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/everyone-blames-someone-else-as-classified-military-smartphones-lack-patches/
[19:06] <ogra_> what does make them "military" ? the camouflage rubber bumper `
[19:06] <ogra_> ?
[19:06] <JanC> ogra_: an extra delay in pushing security fixes :p
[19:06] <ogra_> ah :)
[19:08] <JanC> google writes patch, sends them to manufacturer, manufacturer tests, sends to carrier, carrier tests, sends to DoD, DoD tests, patch gets deployed (several months after the vulnerability was published)
[19:08] <JanC> all that provided your phone isn't too old
[19:08] <ogra_> you think the DoD has carriers involved ?
[19:08] <JanC> ogra_: apparently
[19:08] <ogra_> crazy
[19:09] <ogra_> i mean ... that alone is already ... ummm ...
[19:09] <JanC> they designed their own phone, then dropped the project when they discovered it would have been very outdated by release time and cost 4.5k / phone
[19:09] <ogra_> heh
[19:10] <JanC> so then they had to scramble to get other phones, and went to the carriers for that
[21:21] <guigui76> hi
[22:11] <slo> Ok, seems that now that Im on WiFi that I can update my phone...
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[09:28] <alan_g> alf_: anpok_ - do you want to review this? (Or shall I just TA?) https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/remove-RTLD_GLOBAL-hack/+merge/277277
[09:30] <alf_> alan_g: feel free to TA, the code change looks sane, but I won't have time to test until later today
[09:31] <anpok_> just did
[09:31] <alan_g> alf_: anpok_ - thanks
[09:32] <anpok_> further messing with clocks spawned https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1515515
[09:32] <anpok_> .. hm why does it say in unity8 ..
[09:33] <anpok_> anyhow .. I will probably settle with CLOCK_REALTIME for now.. it seem to be a problem in kernel .. at least glibc just forwards the clock id..
[09:34] <anpok_> now I wonder .. should we also change mir::Clock::SteadyClock to not use steady_clock?
[09:34] <anpok_> or should I .. for now have different clock passed to the input platforms..
[09:43] <alf_> anpok_: Did you see my comments in that bug?
[10:09] <anpok_> alf_: we do now() + some_next_frame_estimate then forward events to it
[10:09] <anpok_> but let me look again..
[10:10] <anpok_> alan_g: I seem to have tested in the wrong build directory... i was about to add another check to the module entry points..
[10:10] <anpok_> with that branch - as opposed to lp:mir it seems to fail while trying to probe the kms platform
[10:11] <alan_g> anpok_: which scenario? (I haven't seen any problems)
[10:15] <anpok_> what i tried was: ./mir_demo_server --vt 2 --file /tmp/mir_host --launch-client './mir_demo_server --host-socket /tmp/mir_host --file /tmp/nested --launch-client "./mir_demo_client_eglplasma -m /tmp/nested "'
[10:17] <anpok_> oh
[10:17] <anpok_> thats the new platform probing
[10:18] <anpok_> it decides to pick dummy platform.. if I remove all by kms .. it claims none found.. while
[10:18] <anpok_> on my old build it did..
[10:18] <anpok_> so we broke probing with nested and thats not related to this branch
[10:19] * alan_g is nearly as confused as anpok_
[10:20] <anpok_> i would guess it fails here:
[10:21] <anpok_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/mir/development-branch/view/head:/src/platforms/mesa/server/kms/platform_symbols.cpp#L181
[10:21] <anpok_> need to look with a vm..
[10:22] <anpok_> and then returns in line 191 ..
[10:22] <anpok_> s/191/194
[10:23] <anpok_> nah not confused .. just stale builds..
[10:25] <anpok_> i mean our current probing logic in mir requires the nested server to launch with a --vt paramter or being at least temporary capable to drmSetMaster while probing.. otherwise the platform isnt considered
[10:29] <alf_> anpok_: alan_g: hmmm... I don't the nested server shouldn't be probing anything, it should select its guest platform to match the host platform the host server is using
[10:29] <alf_> anpok_: alan_g: s/I don't//
[10:29] <alan_g> +1
[10:29] <anpok_> yes, but does that also apply for x11 host and mesa-kms nested?
[10:30] <anpok_> hm does that even work?
[10:35] * alf_ 's fingers have started hurting from all the proximity sensor (un)covering, and wishes he had some Lego Technic... looks around the house for any kind of mechanism to automate this
[10:36] * alan_g wonders if, after NBS lands in the client API, we'll even need guest platforms
[10:49] <alan_g> anpok_: I confirm your finding. Did you file a bug?
[11:01] <alan_g> anpok_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1515558
[11:04] <anpok_> alan_g: had to run and unconfuse me..
[11:07] <anpok_> alan_g: maybe only for the mesa reload hack :)
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[00:46] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[00:49] <crixer> 안녕하세요
[00:54] <autowiz_> 싱글벙글
[00:54] <autowiz_> 포테토님 안녕하세요~~
[00:55] <autowiz_> 크릭서님도 안녕하시구요
[00:55] <crixer> 네 안녕하세요?
[00:55] <crixer> 뭔가
[00:55] <ipeter> 출근했어요.
[00:55] <ipeter> 휴.
[00:55] <ipeter> 엄청 밀리네요.
[00:55] <crixer> 사촌동생이 수능을 본다니까 기분이 이상하네요
[00:57] <autowiz_> 다들 정상출근 하셨네요 ㅎㅎ 뭐 저희도 그랬습니다만
[01:03] <jun> 어제도 달리는 바람에 저는 출근은했지만... 좀비모드로 있습니다;;
[01:04] <autowiz_> 거의 뭐 그로기 상태겠구만 ㅋㅋ
[01:05] <jun> 마우스 움직이는게 힘들어요....ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:06] <ipeter> 리붓하고 다시 왔어요-
[01:06] <ipeter> 안녕하세요-
[01:06] <ipeter> 오늘 자체 늦게 출근했는데 사람들은 다 와 있네요
[01:06] <ipeter> ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:06] <ipeter> 완젼 무한입니다.
[01:07] <autowiz_> 특별히 말 없으면 정상 출근인 곳이 더 많은거 같더라구요
[01:07] <ipeter> 흥
[01:07] <ipeter> 나쁜 사람들이예요.
[01:11] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[01:30] <jun> 저희회사는 어제 퇴근할때쯤 이야기는 하더군요.. 내일 수능이네~? 그말이 끝이었습니다. ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[01:30] <jun> 수능이라고 늦게 출근하는것도 없구;;;;
[01:32] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋ
[01:32] <HolyKnight> 본녀는 늦게 출근....
[01:33] <jun> ipeter: 오늘 일정을 만들어서 일찍끝내고 이대 박물관을 가보려했으나... 일정이 안생기네요;;;ㅎㅎ
[01:33] <ipeter> 후훗
[01:33] <ipeter> 그냥 늦게라도 놀러오세요
[01:36] <crixer> 본녀..?
[01:36] <crixer> 여자셨어요??
[01:36] <crixer> 뭔가 닉네임은 터프한 남자분이실거라생각했는데
[01:36] <jun> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:54] <ipeter> gjr
[01:54] <ipeter> 혹
[01:54] <ipeter> 홀리나이트?
[01:54] <ipeter> 님?
[01:54] <ipeter> 남자분 아니신가요?
[01:54] <ipeter> 나이트는 기사잖아요.
[01:54] <jun> 엥??? 저도 알고 있는 사실을....
[01:55] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:55] <ipeter> 아니요
[01:55] <ipeter> 기사=남자
[01:55] <jun> 아...ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:55] <jun> 저번에 한번 밝히셨던거 같아요 ㅎㅎㅎ 숙녀분이라고 ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:55] <ipeter> 저, root계정은 user 안에 디렉토리 만들어줘야하나요?
[01:55] <ipeter> 아이고
[01:55] <jun> 다들 실수하신겁니다~ㅎㅎㅎ
[01:55] <ipeter> 제가 학교 예쁘신분 있다고 마구 그래서 보기 안좋으셨겠군요.
[01:56] <ipeter> 조심하겠습니다.
[01:56] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[01:57] <ipeter> 아...이거 은근히 우분투하고 틀리네요.
[01:57] <crixer> 그춍.,.
[01:57] <crixer> 닉네임만보면
[01:57] <crixer> 굉장히 터프하실거같은 = 기사니까요 남자분이신데
[01:57] <ipeter> 이거 셸 변경이라든지 뭐죠. 맥?
[01:57] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[01:57] <crixer> 깜짝놀랬네요
[01:57] <crixer> 응?
[01:57] <crixer> 아 puytty이거 간혹 글씨가 겹치는 버그가있네요
[01:58] <crixer> irc사용할떄
[01:58] <crixer> 맥도
[01:58] <crixer> 아니다..
[01:58] <jun> 글꼴을 바꿔보시는게.....
[01:59] <ipeter> 헐, 맥은 /var/root 여기에 root계정것이 있나요?
[01:59] <ipeter> private/var/root요
[01:59] <jun> 저는 아직 맥을 써본적이 없어서요;;;;
[01:59] <crixer> cd ~/하면 루트 폴더로가지않을까요
[01:59] <ipeter> 하악...ㅠ 10년은 늙어가는것 같아요.
[01:59] <crixer> 루트 홈디렉토르로
[01:59] <crixer> 그걸 원하시는건가....
[02:00] <ipeter> 맞네요. 그위치
[02:00] <ipeter> 왜 루트 디렉토리가 var 밑에 있을까요?
[02:00] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[02:06] <ipeter> 음...
[02:06] <ipeter> 보통 private/var/root를 User로 밑으로 링크 걸어주나요?
[02:06] <ipeter> 와.
[02:06] <ipeter> 뎁따 어렵네요.
[02:36] <ipeter> 사마휘님이시다!!!
[02:36] <ipeter> 사마휘님...ㅠ
[02:37] <ipeter> 아..계속 삽질중이예요.
[02:37] <ipeter> 어렵습니다.
[04:42] <koolDJ> 안녕하세요
[04:42] <jun> 안녕하세요~
[04:43] <koolDJ> 오랜만에 우분투를 설치하고 사용하는데. 설치하고 나서 사용해보니 자동으로 전원이 안꺼지더라고요. 멈춤현상도 생기는 것 같은데. 우분투 써본이래 이런적이 없는데 이상하네요.
[04:45] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요. 버젼은 최신버젼으로 설치하셨을거 같은데요 버젼을 한,두단계 낮추는게 도움이 될때도있습니다.
[04:46] <koolDJ> 15.~대를 쓰고 있는데
[04:46] <autowiz_> 준~~ 우리 7시반에 볼까?
[04:46] <autowiz_> 해민이가 될려나?
[04:46] <koolDJ> 15버전대가 말이 많은가요. LTS버전으로 다운그레이드 해야하나......
[04:47] <autowiz_> 15.대가 문제가 많지는 않았던거 같습니다.
[04:47] <autowiz_> 다른 하드웨어 문제는 아닐거 같긴 합니다만. 으음...
[04:47] <koolDJ> 아 그렇군요. 윈도우즈를 쓸때는 지장없었는데 우분투를 깔고나서 보니 전원꺼짐도 안되고 그래서요...... 제 디바이스가 리눅스민트를 사용했을때는 멀쩡했던것으로 기억하고요
[04:48] <autowiz_> 리눅스 민트 라던가 윈도우즈 를 설치해보는 방법도 있습니다 ^_^
[04:48] <koolDJ> 저는 순혈 우분투를 쓰겠다는 고집이 있어서 삽질을 하는중입니다.
[04:48] <autowiz_> 보드마다 acpi 지원 부분에서 문제가 종종 생기곤 합니다.
[04:49] <koolDJ> 아 그렇군요. 제가 노트북을 사용중인데 보드랑 안맞아서 그런가보군요 ㅠㅠ
[04:49] <autowiz_> grub 부팅하실때 e 눌러서 부팅 옵션 편집창 열으시고 acpi=off 등의 옵션을 커널 옵션줄 다음에
[04:49] <autowiz_> 추가하면 일단 기본동작은 정상적으로 하는 경우도 있습니다.
[04:50] <autowiz_> ACPI 고급기능을 쓰는 경우 문제가 될 수 있는데 대부분 그렇게까지는 잘 안쓰는거 같더라구요.
[04:50] <koolDJ> 맨끝에 입력하면 되나요?
[04:50] <koolDJ> e를 눌러보니 setparams 'ubuntu'부터 시작하는 군요
[04:50] <autowiz_> -- rgb quiet silence 등이 있는데
[04:51] <autowiz_> 맨뒤에 넣으시면 됩니다. 관련 글 찾아보시면.
[04:51] <autowiz_> nolpic , acpi=off , acpi=XXXonly 등 몇가지 옵션이 더 나올겁니다.
[04:52] <koolDJ> 감사합니다.
[04:52] <autowiz_> 저도 한번 해볼께요 잠시만요
[04:52] <koolDJ> 자리좀 옮기고 채팅방에 들어갈께요
[04:53] <autowiz_> 정확히 몇버젼이시지요?
[04:56] <ipeter> 아아...맥 헬프쳐도 되나요?
[04:56] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[04:57] <autowiz_> 마음 편하게 치시면 됩니다.
[04:57] <autowiz_> 저도 같이 쳐드리겠습니.... 으흐흐흐
[04:57] <ipeter> mysql_safe 치면 -bash: mysql_safe: command not found
[04:57] <ipeter> 가 뜹니다.
[04:57] <autowiz_> which mysqld_safe
[04:58] <ipeter> 근데 echo $PATH를 치면 분명히
[04:58] <ipeter> 해당 경로가 path에 잡혀있다는 말이죠..ㅠ
[04:58] <koolDJ> 안녕하세요
[04:58] <ipeter> 이것 usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/X11/bin
[04:59] <ipeter> which결과값은
[04:59] <ipeter> usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqld_safe 이것입니다.
[04:59] <ipeter> 그러니 path에 잡혀있는데 왜...not found가 뜰까요.
[04:59] <ipeter> 아오...!
[05:01] <autowiz_> 오타난게 아니라면
[05:01] <autowiz_> mysqld_safe 가 아니라
[05:02] <autowiz_> mysql_safe 라고 쳐서 그런거 같은... 그게 아니라면 다른 문제는 ....
[05:03] <autowiz_> 경로에서 앞에 슬러쉬는 일부러 뺀거지요? 명령이라서 안먹히니까
[05:04] <autowiz_> koolDJ: grub 부팅화면을 자꾸만 놓쳐서 이제야 봤습니다.
[05:04] <autowiz_> 맨 밑에 linux 로 시작하는 줄 하고 initrd 로 시작하는 줄일 있으실거 같습니다.
[05:04] <autowiz_> 그중에 linux 로 시작하는 줄 (줄이 길어서 나뉘어져 있어서 여려줄로 보일 수 있습니다.)
[05:05] <autowiz_> 끝에 추가하시면 됩니다. 참고로 비번 복구할때는 저기 single 이라고 치는 경우도 있습니다.
[05:06] <koolDJ> 지금 acpi=force로 수정해서 해보고 있어요
[05:08] <koolDJ> 포럼글을 보는데 안꺼짐현상은 노트북 여러기종에 있는 모양이더라고요 -_-;;
[05:09] <koolDJ> shutdown명령어도 안먹혀서 강제종료를 해야한다니....
[05:12] <autowiz_> 네 사실은 셧다운 되다가
[05:13] <autowiz_> 마지막에 메인보드 power-off 시키는과정에 acpi 프로토콜 오류 등으로 안꺼지는게 아닌가 하는 생각이 듭니다.
[05:13] <koolDJ> 아 그렇군요
[05:34] <koolDJ> 오 부트매니저라는 프로그램을 이용했는데
[05:34] <koolDJ> 끄기가 되네요
[05:43] <ipeter> gjf
[05:43] <ipeter> 헐
[05:43] <ipeter> 되었어요 되었어요 되었어요.
[05:43] <ipeter> 울뻔 했어요.
[06:11] <autowiz_> mysqld 가 되었다는 말씀이신거지요
[06:14] <ipeter> sp.
[06:14] <ipeter> 네.
[06:14] <ipeter> 근데 아직 이상한점이 많아요.
[06:14] <ipeter> 아 맥 진짜 우분투랑 많이 다르네요
[06:14] <ipeter> 와..미치겠어요.
[07:04] <jun> 점심 먹고부터 이상하게 무릎이 아프네요;;;;크흑~
[07:07] <autowiz_> 준준준
[07:10] <imsu> 안녕하세요~!
[07:12] <jun> autowiz: 네 말씀하세요~
[07:12] <jun> 임수님 안녕하세요~
[07:12] <imsu> jun: 안녕하세요
[07:13] <imsu> autowiz: 형님~ 혹시 파이썬 아십니깡? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[07:17] <ipeter> 아...ps -ax로 mysql 프로세스 죽이는데
[07:18] <ipeter> 자꾸 안죽고 다른 pid로 구동이 되네요
[07:18] <ipeter> 이거 kill -9 PID방법말고 다른방법 없나요?
[07:18] <ipeter> 불사조 프로세스네요
[07:18] <ipeter> ㅋㅋㅋ
[07:20] <ipeter> 아, 맥입니다. os x 10.11
[07:31] <jun> 재투빙..???
[07:31] <jun> 쩝;;;
[07:40] <jun> 재부팅을 재투빙으로 써놨네요;;; 죄송합니다.. 실없는 소리해서;;
[07:43] <ipeter> 아니예요
[07:52] <jun> 맥이 좋긴 좋죠..????
[07:52] <jun> 다들 그 이야기를 하던데...
[07:54] <bluedusk> 맥이 좋은건 그냥 gui 환경에서 쓸떄...
[07:54] <bluedusk> 서버나 그런쪽으로는 안써봐서..
[07:54] <bluedusk> 전 잘 모르겠네요
[07:58] <jason____> 왜 나한텐 아니 물어보우? imsu
[08:03] <bluedusk> 제가 여쭤봐드릴까요? jason____ 님?
[08:12] <ipeter> bluedusk: 블더니!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:12] <ipeter> 저 헬프입니다.
[08:12] <ipeter> 도와주세요
[08:12] <ipeter> 엉엉엉
[08:12] <bluedusk> 네?
[08:12] <ipeter> 맥 10.11에
[08:12] <ipeter> mysql을 설치했는데
[08:12] <ipeter> 설정파일 my.cnf파일을 제가 만들어야하나요?
[08:12] <ipeter> 혹시 mysql설치하셨나요?
[08:13] <bluedusk> 맥에다가 mysql을 설치 해서 써본적이 없어서요..
[08:13] <bluedusk> 끽해야 workbench 잠깐..
[08:13] <bluedusk> 전 맥을 그냥 순수하게 클라이언트 용도로만 써서요..;
[08:14] <ipeter> 아앗.
[08:14] <ipeter> 네 알겠습니다.
[08:54] <autowiz_> 꺄 임수다
[08:57] <autowiz_> 파이션 몰랑 ㅠㅠ
[09:20] <jason____> (난 파썬 좀 안당?) ㅎ
[09:20] <jason____> 임수랑 잘 안놀고 싶다~ ㅋ
[09:44] <imsu> 오잉? ㅋㅋㅋ
[09:44] <imsu> jason____: 안녕하세요 ㅋㅋㅋ
[09:45] <imsu> autowiz_: 흐엉 ㅠ.ㅠ;;;
[09:45] <imsu> jason____: embedded python 에서 import 가 에러 나는데 제가 파이썬을 잘 몰라서요 ㅠ.ㅠ;
[10:33] <jason____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AbR0g4Hb/
[10:35] <jason____> sorry, 그거 내가 좀 *비*전문인데, 자세한 환경은 무요? imsu <--- 갔네?
[10:35] <jason____> 갔어! 쩝
[10:49] <jun> ipeter: 오랫만에 와도 신촌은 신촌이네요....ㅎㅎㅎ
[11:04] <ipeter_> 궁금한게 있는데요
[11:04] <ipeter_> mysql의 데이터가 쌓이는 db를 옮겨주려고 하는데요(다른 디렉토리로)
[11:05] <ipeter_> 설정파일에 아예 바꿀까요
[11:05] <ipeter_> 아니면 설정파일이 정해놓은 디폴트 디렉토리를 그냥 제가 원하는 디렉토리로 심볼릭링크를 거는게 나을까요?
[11:25] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋ
[11:25] <ipeter_> jun: 오셨군요
[11:26] <jun> 네 ㅋㅋ 현재 신촌입니다
[11:29] <ipeter_> 아앗
[11:29] <ipeter_> 미리 말씀하셨으면 술이나 한잔 할껄요.
[11:29] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠㅠ
[11:29] <ipeter_> 업무로 오신건가요?
[11:29] <ipeter_> 외근이요?
[11:31] <jun> autowiz님께 배우고 있어요 ㅎㅎ 스터디왔죠 ㅎ
[11:33] <ipeter_> 어엇!!!!
[11:33] <ipeter_> 뭐예욧 오즈님
[11:33] <ipeter_> 와~~~~
[11:33] <ipeter_> 너무하시다!!!!!
[11:34] <ipeter_> autowiz: 일어나라구욧!!!!
[11:34] <ipeter_> autowiz: 왜 나는 안가르쳐줘요!!!
[11:34] <ipeter_> 왜요!!!
[11:34] <jun> 제 앞에 계세요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[11:34] <ipeter_> autowiz: 이글 보십시오 오즈님!!!!
[11:34] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[11:34] <ipeter_> 대답하라구욧!!!!
[11:34] <ipeter_> 오즈!!!! 오즈님!!!!
[11:34] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[11:34] <ipeter_> 두분 너무하신거 아닙니까.
[11:35] <jun> 전 아무것도 한게 없습니다;;;
[11:35] <ipeter_> jun: 저 혹시 답좀 주실 수 있나요?
[11:35] <ipeter_> data가 쌓이는 mysql 폴더를
[11:35] <ipeter_> 바꾸려고 하는데
[11:36] <ipeter_> my.cnf파일에 다른 폴더를 명기해주는 편으로 셋팅해주나요
[11:36] <ipeter_> 아니면 그건 그냥 내버려두고
[11:36] <ipeter_> 보통 심볼링 링크로 바꿔주나요?
[11:36] <ipeter_> 관리하는데 어느편이 더 나을까요?
[11:36] <ipeter_> autowiz: 배신자.
[11:36] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[11:36] <ipeter_> 미워요 오즈님
[11:37] <jun> 저는.... 모르는 범위입니다 -_-;;;;
[11:37] <jun> 답이 되지 못해 죄송합니다
[11:37] <ipeter_> 헉
[11:37] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋ
[11:37] <ipeter_> 네네
[11:41] <jun> 음... mysql은 아니었지만
[11:41] <jun> config에 명시를 해줘서 데이터가 쌓이게 하는게 심볼보다는 조금더 빠르다고 배웠습니다
[11:42] <jun> 근데 관리가 편하게 하기 위해서 심볼링크를 쓰긴하죠
[11:56] <ipeter_> 감사합니다.
[12:07] <jun> 기술적인 증명은 못해드리겠네요;;;;
[12:08] <jun> 그냥 들은거라서리;;;
[12:15] <ipeter_> jun: 근데
[12:15] <ipeter_> 심볼릭 링크를 걸면
[12:16] <ipeter_> 원래 쌓이던
[12:16] <ipeter_> 폴더는 그대로 쌓이잖아요.
[12:27] <jun> 음..??? config에 설정하신 부분이랑 심볼링크할곳을 자세히 설명해주셔야알것 같은데요;;;
[12:51] <ipeter_> 음..
[12:52] <ipeter_> 이번주 주말에 그냥 한번 뵈러가야겠네요.
[12:52] <ipeter_> 오즈님이요.
[12:52] <ipeter_> ㅎㅎ
[12:55] <jun> 전 이만 들어가보겠습니다~ ㅎㅎ
[14:04] <autowiz_> 회사 복귀~ ㅎㅎㅎ
[14:05] <DarkCircle> ㄷㄷㄷㄷ
[14:05] <DarkCircle> 지금 시간대는
[14:05] <DarkCircle> 댁에 계시는게 정상이 아닌카 (먼산)
[14:05] <autowiz_> 회사에 있는게 정상이 되어버린 ㅎㅎ
[14:28] <PotatoGim> 음주 코딩~~
[14:29] <DarkCircle> 내일 아침에 git checkout -- sourcecode.c
[14:29] <DarkCircle> lol
[14:30] <PotatoGim> 하지만 이미 git push...
[14:32] <PotatoGim> 결국엔 git rebase -i HEAD~1을...
[14:32] <DarkCircle> 위 아래 위위 아래
[14:32] <PotatoGim> git push origin master --force
[14:32] <PotatoGim> ...ㅜㅜ
[14:32] <DarkCircle> ㅠㅠ...
[14:33] <PotatoGim> 요새 개발자 코스프레하는 한 사람으로서 고민이 많네요...
[14:34] <PotatoGim> 윗선에서는 직접 개발하는 것보다 오픈소스 소프트웨어를 가져다 쓰는 것을 바라고..
[14:34] <PotatoGim> 저는 우리 기술을 차근차근 쌓아야 한다는 생각이고...
[14:36] <PotatoGim> 잘 만든 소프트웨어 편하게 쓰면 좋다만...
[14:37] <DarkCircle> 바닥부터 기술쌓는거야 좋기야 하지만 ... 회사가 그걸로 초장기로 사업할거 아니거나 딱히 오픈소스를 썼을때 라이선스 이슈가 발생한다거나 하는게 아니면
[14:37] <DarkCircle> 그냥 오픈소스 쓰는게 나아요.
[14:37] <PotatoGim> 편하죠..ㅎㅎ
[14:38] <DarkCircle> 시간도 문제고 그만큼 인건비 들어가는것도 문제니까 아싸리 그냥 빨리 가져다가 뚝딱 만들어 해치우는게 ...
[14:38] <DarkCircle> 무엇보다 ...
[14:38] <DarkCircle> "바퀴 발명 문제"를 언급할 가능성이 있어보이네요.
[14:40] <PotatoGim> 저도 만일 SI 성이면 그냥 편하게 편하게 가고 싶은데..
[14:40] <PotatoGim> 자사 제품이라고 나가야되는 제품인데 그렇게 이거저거 붙인 녀석을 까보면 진짜 아무 것도 없다는게...
[14:45] <DarkCircle> 근데 iptime이나 이런거도 사실 ... 실제로 까보면 뭐 없어요. 거기서 중요한건 "튜닝" 이랑 UI연동이지.
[14:47] <PotatoGim> 그 튜닝이랑 UI가 이쪽에선 이미 평준화가 된거라...
[14:48] <DarkCircle> 네 뭐 기술이란게 엄청 거창한거 쓴다고 해도 쓰는 입장에서 모르면 말짱 헛거예요.
[14:48] <PotatoGim> 소형 장비를 대상으로 하는 다른 팀을 보면 UI나 자잘한 튜닝이 중점이 되더라구요.
[14:48] <DarkCircle> 사실 클라이언트가 필요한건
[14:49] <DarkCircle> "안건드리고도 전원만 켜면 알아서 돌아가는거"
[14:49] <PotatoGim> 장애나도 쉽게 처리 가능한거...ㅋㅋ
[14:49] <DarkCircle> 장애나면 어떻게 해요? "걍 껐다키세요" "네"
[14:50] <PotatoGim> 요번에 Isilon OneFS를 보는데
[14:50] <PotatoGim> 정말 잘 만들었더라구요.
[14:50] <PotatoGim> 이런저런 화려한 기능이 아니라
[14:50] <PotatoGim> 스토리지에서 보여줘야하는 것들만 심플하게 보여주고
[14:51] <PotatoGim> 메뉴나 기능 구성도 단순하고..
[14:52] <autowiz_> 튜닝이랑 안전화를 많이 하면 됩니다.
[14:53] <autowiz_> 스토리지 만들면서 OS 랑 FS 까지 만드는건 좀 비효율적이잖아요
[14:53] <autowiz_> 물론 스토리지 프로그램까지 그냥 막 가져다 쓰는건 좀 이상하다는 생각이 드는데
[14:54] <autowiz_> 초기에 엄청나게 투자하고 투입해서 개발할거 아니면 개발하는개인도 회사 시간도 엄청 들어가거든요
[14:54] <DarkCircle> 그 무슨 회사더라 ...
[14:54] <PotatoGim> 저는 그 부분에 있어서 참 안타까운게
[14:54] <DarkCircle> 전원켜면 그냥 웹에 들어가서 파일 다운로드할 수 있는 그 ...제품 ..
[14:54] <PotatoGim> 지금까지 힘들게 굴러오면서 이렇게하면 안된다는 것을 알면서도
[14:55] <PotatoGim> 결국엔 편한 길만 찾더라구요.
[14:55] <PotatoGim> 스토리지 제품들이 대부분 그렇지만
[14:55] <DarkCircle> 편하게 하면서 결과물도 편하게 하는게 기술이죠. 뭐 별거 없어요.
[14:55] <PotatoGim> 다들 나사 하나씩 빠진 것들을 뿐이라
[14:57] <DarkCircle> 엔지니어가 가지지 말아야 할 최대망상중 하나가 뭐냐면
[14:57] <PotatoGim> 결국엔 하려면 최소한 바닥부터 유저 영역에 대한 인터페이스까지는 제공을 해야 되는데
[14:57] <DarkCircle> 근거없는(또는 검증 기간 짧은) 고급기술에 대한 자부심.
[14:57] <PotatoGim> 이 부분을 간과하는 것 같아요.
[14:57] <DarkCircle> 인터페이스 제공은 맞긴 해요. 근데 클라이언트가 어느선까지 필요로 하고 요구를 하는지
[14:57] <DarkCircle> 그에 대한 분석은 정말 필요함.
[14:58] <PotatoGim> 저희는 그 부분이 되게 좁죠 ㅎㅎ
[14:58] <PotatoGim> SNIA만 따라가도 되니까.
[14:58] <DarkCircle> 가끔 보면 클라이언트에서 요구하는게
[14:58] <DarkCircle> "로그" "통계" 이런건데
[14:58] <DarkCircle> 솔직히 그거랑 접속하고 파일 잘 받아오고 하는거만 잘 돼도
[14:59] <DarkCircle> 클라이언트 입장에선 더 요구할게 없어요.
[14:59] <pchero_work> 헐...
[14:59] <PotatoGim> 저희는 그 쪽보다는 서버가 쓰는 스토리지라
[14:59] <pchero_work> 예전에 한국 다녀오면서 SAS 기를 이용했는데..
[14:59] <DarkCircle> 그냥 한마디로 NAS인데 제 기능 잘 되고 파일 주고받고 잘 되고 "로그" "통계" 잘 보여주고 끝.
[14:59] <PotatoGim> 고가용성이 아무래도...
[15:00] <PotatoGim> 안정성에 성능이 부가적인 경우가 많죠 ㅎㅎ
[15:00] <DarkCircle> 네 고가용성을 확보한다는게 근본적인 안정성도 필요하지만 만일의 경우를 대비한 "로그" "통계"는 필요하죠.
[15:00] <pchero_work> 비행기 여행중에 가방이 부서져서 컴플레인 걸었더니.. 새걸로 사준다네요. 헐..
[15:00] <PotatoGim> 헉...
[15:00] <PotatoGim> 사실 저희는 로그 통계 다 얄짤 없어요.
[15:00] <DarkCircle> insufficient disk space 같은 케이스는 제품의 결함 때문에 일어나는게 아니니까.
[15:00] <PotatoGim> 고객들은 다운되면 그냥 컴플레인이죠.
[15:01] <DarkCircle> 로그 통계는 관리자 입장에서 필요할 수도 있어요.
[15:01] <DarkCircle> 다운이 왜 다운인지 고객이 그걸 알고 컴플레인을 거는거랑 모르고 거는거랑 비용차이가 엄청나거든요.
[15:01] <PotatoGim> 문제가 그 로그와 통계에 대한 비중이 적정선이라는게 있는데
[15:02] <DarkCircle> 네 어떤 경우에 로그를 뿌리냐 얼마나 뿌리냐 어느선까지 뿌리고 나머진 자를거냐 이런게 있죠. 그 데이터가 너무 많아도 고객이 싫어하고
[15:02] <DarkCircle> 너무 없으면 문제가 파악이 안되니까 오히려 또 그것도 싫어하고.
[15:02] <PotatoGim> 사실상 그런 부분보다 스토리지 서비스에 대해 중점을 많이 두거든요.
[15:03] <PotatoGim> 헬조선 한계인건지... 장애나면 그냥 퍼콜 부르는게 대다수고...ㅜ
[15:03] <DarkCircle> 고객은 어떤 프로세스에 대한 직간접적 비용투자를 매우 싫어해요.
[15:03] <DarkCircle> 어떤 제품에 대해서는 굳이 비용이나 시간을 안들여도 되는 편리함이 있는데 왜 이제품에서는 이리 번거롭냐 그러면 팽해버림.
[15:04] <PotatoGim> 어느 절차던 돈 들어가는 절차는 민감해지죠~
[15:04] <PotatoGim> 사실 그 부분에서 아직까지 저희가 먹히는건
[15:04] <DarkCircle> 돈이 안들어가도 시간이 들어가면 그것도 역시.
[15:04] <PotatoGim> 싼거죠.
[15:04] <PotatoGim> BMT 때 EMC/NetApp 가져다놓으면 싸다는거만으로 먹고 들어가는 경우도 많으니까요.
[15:05] <PotatoGim> 물론 자금 여유 되는 고객들은 그냥 맘 편하게 EMC/NetApp 제품 쓰지만
[15:05] <PotatoGim> 그게 아니면 만만한거에 퍼콜 부르는게 더 싸게 먹힌다는 걸 아니까 그러나봐요.
[15:06] <DarkCircle> 그냥 싸다기보단 ... 자신들이 문제 해결을 할 경우 비용 들이고 시간 들일바에야
[15:06] <DarkCircle> 비용 더 들어가도 그냥 불러서 처리하는게 깔끔하기 때문일거예요
[15:06] <DarkCircle> TOC 때문에.
[15:07] <PotatoGim> 그게... 저희 제품은 워런티 + 만료 후 퍼콜을 해도
[15:07] <PotatoGim> EMC/NetApp보다 싸거든요.
[15:08] <DarkCircle> 네 TOC로 보면 확실히 싸죠. 리스크 보장에 처리비용 "비싸게" 얹어도
[15:08] <DarkCircle> 특히 "고객" 입장에서.
[15:08] <DarkCircle> 그게 중요.
[15:08] <DarkCircle> 괜히 지들이 건드렸다가 "고장났을 경우"
[15:08] <DarkCircle> 그에 대한 책임을 자신들이 져야 할 때 들어가는 비용은
[15:08] <DarkCircle> 전문 업체에서 처리하는 비용의 통상 2~3배
[15:10] <PotatoGim> 아이러니한게 저희 쪽은 대부분 한번 납품 들어가면 손을 안댑니다...
[15:10] <PotatoGim> 손을 안대다보니 문제가 발생하면 열에 아홉은 저희가 숙이고 들어가야 되거든요.
[15:10] <DarkCircle> 그게 정상이예요. 그만큼 제품이 완전하다는거고.
[15:11] <PotatoGim> 손을 안댄다는게 장애 빈도가 낮다기보다는
[15:11] <PotatoGim> 사소한 문제에 대해서도 바로 호출이 되는 경우가 많아요.
[15:11] <DarkCircle> 고객이 돈을 주고 산다는건 어디까지나 제품의 "완전 무결성"에 가치를 매기고 거래를 하는거니.
[15:11] <PotatoGim> 이쪽에선 그렇게 가치 평가가 되는 마지노선이 NetApp/EMC...
[15:11] <DarkCircle> 결함인지 아닌지 모르는 경우는 꽤 많죠.
[15:12] <DarkCircle> 엔지니어 입장에서는 사실 별로 신경쓸 꺼리조차도 안되는게 사용자 입장에서는 "이건버그야!" 해버리면 버그가 되는거고요.
[15:12] <PotatoGim> 문제가 그거죠 ㅎㅎ
[15:12] <PotatoGim> 대부분이 니네가 문제야!
[15:13] <DarkCircle> 사실 정상 동작인건데 기능자체를 이해를 못해서 이거 웨이뤱 ㅡ3ㅡ
[15:13] <DarkCircle> ...이러거나.
[15:13] * DarkCircle 줴훈줴훈?
[15:13] <PotatoGim> 차라리 대형 벤더처럼 비싸게 먹고 들어가면 억울하지나 않을텐데
[15:14] <PotatoGim> 크리티컬한 사이트에 대한 워런티 재계약에 대해 비용 재산정이 들어갈 때 조금만 올라가도 불만이 터져나오니...
[15:16] <samahui_tp> 처음부터 개발할때 소비자의 니즈를 잘 집어내서 맞춰주는것도 중요하지만... 소비자에게 충분히 이해시키는것도 중요한 이유가 거기있죠
[15:16] <DarkCircle> 우리나라는
[15:16] <DarkCircle> 옆에 중국이 끼어있어서 그런건지
[15:16] <DarkCircle> 아니면 2000년대부터 기어들어온 엔지니어들 노예근성 때문인가
[15:16] <DarkCircle> 굳이 안해도 되는 가격후려치기를 자꾸 해서 뭘 벌어먹기가 힘들어요.
[15:16] <PotatoGim> 그런데 더 열 받는 부분은 대형 벤더가 저희랑 같은 근거를 대도
[15:16] <PotatoGim> 저희는 겁나 까이고
[15:16] <PotatoGim> 대형 벤더는 아 그런갑다...
[15:17] <samahui_tp> 적은돈으로 큰 만족을 얻고 싶어하는 고객과 보다 가치를 높이고 싶은 기업의 시선차이 아닐까요
[15:17] <PotatoGim> 사실 그런 부분에 있어서 중요한 서비스면 그냥 비싼 스토리지 쓰라고 하고 싶어요.
[15:19] <DarkCircle> 근데 뭐 ... 어떤 문제가 있는데 고객이 그 문제가 일어나는 원인(유불)을 제대로 파악 못하고 그러면
[15:19] <DarkCircle> 뭔 장비를 써도 어차피 마찬가지예요
[15:19] <DarkCircle> 그냥 외장하드 들고 다니라고 하는게 더나을지도.
[15:23] <DarkCircle> 저같은 경우는 어떻게 권하냐면,
[15:23] <DarkCircle> 누군가가 장비를 알아봐달라고 해요.
[15:23] <DarkCircle> 그러면 이 장비로 어느선까지 이렇게 쓸 수 있습니다. 쓰는건 뭐랑 비슷합니다.
[15:23] <DarkCircle> "만일"의 경우를 대비해서 "개인용 백업" 장비를 추천합니다.
[15:24] <DarkCircle> 무슨 얘기냐면 장비는 결국 편의성을 전제로 쓰는건데 어떤 문제가 언제든 있을 수 있으니까
[15:24] <DarkCircle> 항상 개인적으로 대비를 해두라고 하는거죠.
[15:25] <PotatoGim> 음.. 저희를 예로 들면
[15:26] <PotatoGim> 일반적으로 다수의 서버들이 파일링 프로토콜로 저희 스토리지에 붙어서 사용하는 케이스라서 백업이나 복제/고가용성 구성에 대한 부분은 기본 권장이에요.
[15:26] <PotatoGim> 다만 일반적인 방법으로 백업은 어려워서
[15:27] <PotatoGim> 만만한게 NDMP나 VTL로 2차 백업을 뜨는데
[15:27] <PotatoGim> 사실 이 부분만으로도 먹고 사는 회사들이 있을 정도로 스케일이 크거든요.
[15:27] <PotatoGim> 거기에다 DR만 해도 사이버테크처럼
[15:28] <PotatoGim> DR로만 먹고 사는 회사들도 있고.
[15:28] <autowiz_> 포테토님 오늘 시니컬해 ㅠㅠ
[15:28] <PotatoGim> 그래서 이 부분에 대한 책임은 가능하면 안지는게 좋은데 고객들이 바라니까 또 가져가길 바래요...ㅜ
[15:29] <PotatoGim> 게다가 암호화도 바라고
[15:29] <PotatoGim> 중복 제거도 바라고
[15:29] <PotatoGim> 이미 이 정도 수준이면...
[15:29] <PotatoGim> EMC 대신에 우리 회사가 델에 인수됐을 듯...ㅜ
[15:29] <autowiz_> 포테토님 회사장비는 용량 얼마짜리가 잘 나가나요?
[15:30] <PotatoGim> 음... SMB 급으로는 단일 노드 당 10테라 언더로 나가고
[15:30] <autowiz_> 맞습니다. 델이 포테토님을 몰라보고 어줍짢게 EMC 같은거나 먹은거지요 ㅋㅋ
[15:30] <PotatoGim> 규모가 좀 커지면 스케일 아웃으로 나갑니다 ㅎㅎ
[15:30] <PotatoGim> ...
[15:30] <PotatoGim> 개인적으로.. EMC/NetApp은 넘사벽입니다...ㅜ
[15:31] <DarkCircle> 좀 시니컬하긴 하지만 겪어본 입장으로는 충분히 공감 ㅎㅎ
[15:31] <autowiz_> EMC 생각보다 별거 없는듯 돈만 지지리 비싸고
[15:31] <PotatoGim> ...ㅜㅜ
[15:32] <PotatoGim> 저도 그렇게 생각했는데... 시간이 지나면서 볼수록...
[15:32] <autowiz_> MS 후속으로 오라클 EMC 도 쇄락의 길로 가지 말라는 법은 없지않을까 싶습니다.
[15:32] <PotatoGim> 무시무시합니다...ㅜㅜ
[15:32] <DarkCircle> MS는 애초에 문어발머영감이 말아먹은 규모가 있어서 =3...
[15:32] <autowiz_> 그만큼 오랜기간동안 튜닝하고 연마한 내력이 있는거 뿐 아니겠습니까 허허허
[15:32] <DarkCircle> MS는 숨기고 있는게 많아요.
[15:32] <DarkCircle> 제품으로 잘 안내놓을 뿐이지.
[15:33] <DarkCircle> IBM처럼 초중반에 정력을 다 쓰면서 온갖 과욕을 부리다 이렇게 나가리가 나느니 ...
[15:33] <DarkCircle> 적당선에서 한번씩 펑펑 터뜨려주고 ...
[15:33] <PotatoGim> 스토리지 업계는 SNIA라는 단체가 영향력이 강한데 여기를 주도하는게 EMC/NetApp...
[15:34] <DarkCircle> 근데 MS에서 내놓는 제품은 ... 하드웨어 운영체제 Office 서버 개발툴 정도를 빼면
[15:34] <DarkCircle> 다른건 뭘 어떻게 해도 마이너스럽 ...
[15:35] <PotatoGim> 어흐..ㅜ 요새들어 점점 대형 벤더들에게 열폭하네요...
[15:36] <DarkCircle> 규모를 키울라면 ... 벤치마킹에서 지긋~이 밟아줘야 ...
[15:37] <PotatoGim> ...그건 진즉에 포기를...
[15:37] <DarkCircle> 대형벤더가 대형벤더인 이유는
[15:37] <PotatoGim> 이놈들이 하드웨어 바닥부터 하는 놈들이라...
[15:37] <PotatoGim> 스토리지 하드웨어 프로토콜까지 이넘들 손에서 놀아납니다...ㅜ
[15:37] <DarkCircle> 리서치를 겁나 파기 떄문이죠.
[15:37] <PotatoGim> 네, 정말 볼때마다 놀라요.
[15:38] <DarkCircle> 굳이 오픈소스로 얹어서 원가 절감해가면서
[15:38] <PotatoGim> 화이트페이퍼 하나하나가 진짜...
[15:38] <DarkCircle> 보안 프로토콜 붙여서 처리하는 방법 어지간히 있는데
[19:11] <autowiz_> 데구르르릉
[20:48] <DarkCircle> 구~르고~..
[20:48] <DarkCircle> 빨딱 /-ㅠ-/ 일어서
[20:48] <DarkCircle> 데구루루루루루룽~ ...
[20:48] <DarkCircle> 구르고~ ...
[22:17] <autowiz_> 다클옹 센스쟁이~ ㅎㅎ
[22:30] <ipeter_> 많은 이야기 나누셨군요
[22:30] <ipeter_> 집입니다.
[22:30] <ipeter_> 씻도 가려구요.
[22:30] <ipeter_> =)
[22:30] <ipeter_> 출근해서 뵙겠습니다.
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-release
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[00:16] <cjwatson> robru: which series?
[00:16] <robru> cjwatson: we're trying to kick a touch image with vivid + overlay ppa
[00:16] <cjwatson> robru: running
[00:16] <robru> cjwatson: oh thanks
[00:16] <cjwatson> stgraber: ^- you can stand down unless you want to work out why it's not on iso.qa :)
[00:17] <cjwatson> (so I'm told)
[00:17] <robru> cjwatson: isn't this something I'm supposed to be able to do? I used to.
[00:17] <cjwatson> robru: I'd have thought so
[00:17] <cjwatson> damn, didn't run this in screen, oh well
[00:17] <robru> heh
[00:19] <cjwatson> BTW I think for an urgent phone build it's fine to start SMSing people well before it's got to two hours after your first request here
[00:19] <cjwatson> well, 1.5 from when you said you were ready
[00:21] <robru> cjwatson: right that was rather disorganized
[00:21] <robru> of me
[00:24] <cjwatson> I suspect the answer is that Vivid Daily should be unarchived again for this purpose, maybe
[00:24] <cjwatson> you can get to it by checking Archived at the left, but then there are no options to request a build there
[00:24] <robru> cjwatson: that's sort of what I was expecting to find.
[00:24] <cjwatson> presumably also because it's archived
[00:52] * cjwatson re-signs everything on cdimage with both old and new keys and pushes
[00:58] <cjwatson> and I've updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto as well
[01:14] <cjwatson> robru: as luck would have it my ADSL connection died, but the build survived anyway; cdimage bit is done, should be into system-image shortly
[01:15] <robru> cjwatson: excellent, thanks!
[11:41] <apw> could i request that linux 4.2.0-18.22 and family be copied up from wily-updates to xenial-proposed please
[12:05] <cjwatson> apw: you can do that yourself, copy permissions == upload permissions
[12:06] <apw> cjwatson, i guess i am used to the world where copies could mess up the overrides, but i think i remember infinity saying that was ok now ... so yes i should be able to
[12:06] <cjwatson> apw: copy-package --from-suite wily-updates --to-suite xenial-proposed -b linux # or some such
[12:06] <apw> cjwatson, i will go make it so
[12:06] <cjwatson> \o/
[16:49] <stgraber> Laney: ^
[16:49] <Laney> thanks, one minute
[20:00] <stgraber> slangasek: hey, looks like you did a copy-package run for google-cloud-sdk but forgot to accept them in the queue. utlemming then asked me to release them too, so we ended up with the same stuff twice :) I've accepted mine now and rejected yours.
[20:01] <stgraber> I usually spend 5 minutes remembering what args to pass to copy-package and then I pretty much always forget --auto-approve... :)
[20:02] <infinity> When I'm copying to stables, I often intentionally skip --auto-approve as a sanity check to make sure it hits the right queue.
[20:03] <infinity> But then one has to remember to look and accept. :P
[20:04] <stgraber> yeah, I usually do a dry-run first to make sure I'm not accidently copying to the primary archive instead of partner (which is my usual fear when releasing utlemming's stuff) :)
[20:04] <stgraber> copy-package lets you do some crazy stuff :)
[20:19] <slangasek> stgraber: bah.. sorry :)
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[17:23] <Na3iL> o/ @ALL am new here, I am currently reading the guide on Packaging guide, I hope that I will help as much as I can :)
[17:24] <thebwt> Howdy, welcome use all with utmost moderation.
[17:26] <Na3iL> thank you thebwt :) sure
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.751039
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2015-11-12-#lubuntu
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[01:38] <skryking> any x2go users in here?
[01:45] * ianorlin personally does not but ask your question
[02:07] <procyon_ember> I want to move /tmp to a ramdisk on an existing installation of 15.10. Any advice?
[07:52] <Guest_____> Is it any way to restet the panle and the items ? i have mess it up.
[08:09] <guest4> My Shutdown button missing from panel. how can i get it back ?
[08:31] <Guest4> 14.04.3: shutdown is missing from aplication launch bar settings. can i get it back ?
[15:07] <Langley> Is there no search function in the file manager?
[15:08] <Langley> Oh it's ctrl+shift+f
[15:09] <skryking> Guest4 it is an item under the application launch bar...so right click on panel, select add remove panel items... select application launch bar and then properties. You should be able to handle it from there
[20:57] <guest01> 14.04.3 Shutdown is missing on aplication launch bar settings. I removed it by a misstake. Is it something i can do to get it back ?
[20:58] <redwolf> yes
[20:58] <redwolf> guest01, you have to add an Application Launcher and look for "lubuntu-logout"
[20:59] <redwolf> other solution to fix it is creating your own shutdown launcher: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218080
[21:00] <guest01> how can i add a an application launcher ? i can only see them. nothing happens when i click on add or remove.
[21:00] <redwolf> right click on the panel, and settings
[21:00] <redwolf> then you can add it from the "panel applets" tab
[21:01] <redwolf> in that tab press the button "+Add"
[21:03] <guest01> I dont find shutown in the list.
[21:03] <redwolf> then try that ubuntuforum solution, unless you want a more radical one :)
[21:04] <redwolf> you remove your panel settings with two commands in the Terminal
[21:04] <redwolf> rm -r ~/.config/lxpanel
[21:04] <redwolf> lxpanelctl restart
[21:06] <redwolf> but you will lose all your custom applets, your configuration, orientation, etc. and it will appear factory-default
[21:06] <guest01> why is not shutown in my aplication launch bar list so i cud do it in the menu ?
[21:07] <redwolf> because it's a special launcher, not a normal app
[21:07] <redwolf> actually it's a bunch of scripts
[21:07] <redwolf> removing the config is not so radical, don't worry
[21:08] <guest01> so with these commands it will be like in a new instatallation ?
[21:09] <redwolf> yup
[21:10] <redwolf> but it will affect only the panel. not the desktop or other LX things
[21:11] <guest01> it works now..
[21:11] <guest01> thank you.
[21:11] <redwolf> grat!
[21:11] <redwolf> *great!
[21:11] <redwolf> you're welcome
[21:11] <guest01> usally i dont like to mess in the terminal.. i am not an expert.
[21:12] <redwolf> it's very powerful once you start digging
[21:12] <redwolf> there's a nice web: http://linuxcommand.org/
[21:13] <redwolf> and of course we have a guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:13] <guest01> is the terminal commands the same in all linux xubuntu lubuntu and ubuntu ?
[21:14] <redwolf> yes, on all Linux systems
[21:15] <redwolf> from one distro to another only changes where we store some files or apps, but the structure is the same for all
[21:21] <Langley> Where is the logs located, that I should look after restoring from a system freeze
[21:22] <redwolf> there're plenty log files, Langley
[21:22] <Unit193> /var/log/
[21:22] <redwolf> use this to show them all: ls --ignore=*.gz /var/log
[21:24] <Langley> Okay... too bad I don't understand any of it... oh well..
[21:24] <redwolf> :D
[21:25] <guest01> My system freeze once when i open many windows in firefox and restartet the computer by it self. Is all ok then after this ?
[21:26] <redwolf> yes, nothing is damaged doing that. how many windows / tabs?
[21:26] <redwolf> there're ways to save memory when browsing. there're nice extensions.
[21:27] <guest01> not many.. maybe 3 or 4.. havys sites or flashplayer. i dont remember.. sometimes firefox can hang some sec before it respond.
[21:27] <redwolf> it depends on the pages, maybe
[21:28] <redwolf> is your computer old?
[21:28] <guest01> or my computer.. it is a singecore netbook.. but 1GB ram.
[21:28] <guest01> singelcore
[21:28] <guest01> I am not sure about the age.
[21:28] <redwolf> yes, opening some webs could consume that
[21:33] <Langley> That wouldn't be my problem... I have no idea what it can be, perhaps other than old hard drives
[21:35] <redwolf> sure, my old computer was dying because of its hard drive. it's amazing how it can slow the entire system (affecting the rest of components)
[21:36] <redwolf> it was broken. I realised it did a short-circuit in the motherboard. I only noticed slowness.
[21:36] <Langley> That sounds weird too
[21:36] <redwolf> yup
[21:36] <redwolf> but it died! :D
[21:37] <Langley> I don't think anythings dying here... Anyways, what can I look for in the log files
[21:37] <redwolf> okies
[21:38] <redwolf> and consider using some Firefox extensions to save memory
[21:46] <Langley> I think you're confusing me with that guest guy
[21:51] <redwolf> O.O
[21:51] <redwolf> that was for him, sorry :D
[21:52] <redwolf> I should name my messages, Langley :)
[23:06] <platzhirsch> Any idea how I can get the workspace switcher in-screen get turned off?
[23:06] <platzhirsch> It always appears in the middle
[23:10] <Gnjurac> does lubuntu come with ftp client preistalled
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-kernel
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[09:08] <ricotz> henrix, hi :), are looking into backporting 4.2.0-19.23 as linux-lts-wily to trusty too?
[09:15] <henrix> ricotz: yes, i'll probably be uploading it into the kernel team PPA today. soon it will hit -proposed
[09:24] <ricotz> henrix, great thanks
[10:37] <caribou> apw: smb` cking: any reason why vt.handoff=7 would break my boot following upgrade to Xenial ?
[10:37] <apw> caribou, you should have the same kernel as you had in wily, so no
[10:37] <caribou> I have a fully encrypted HD and unless I remove it, I just get a blank screen & nothing else
[10:38] <caribou> apw: I noticed a change in libplymouth
[10:38] <apw> caribou, try hitting esc (or is it tab) twice to switch out of and into graphics mode again at the prompt
[10:38] <caribou> I also loose my USB keyboard + external display
[10:39] <caribou> apw: thanks, will try that
[10:39] * caribou biab
[10:40] <apw> caribou, what did you upgrade from, as the kernel, grub2, and plymouth are at the same versions in wily as xenial
[10:51] <caribou> apw: yes, I just noticed that
[10:51] <caribou> apw: I upgraded from Wily
[10:51] <caribou> apw: so hitting tab/esc brings me to the encryption password
[10:51] <caribou> so I'm able to boot but w/o sound, external display & USB keyboard even if this one is seen by the kernel
[10:52] <caribou> so I don't think it's a kernel issue
[11:12] <apw> caribou, very odd behaviour though. i am going to guess the tab thing is a race as much as anything, i have seen that before i think
[11:13] <apw> caribou, but the latter issues with sound etc is just plain strange
[11:13] <caribou> apw: indeed, I'm looking at it atm
[11:16] <caribou> apw: well, alsactl reports on soundcard found, so that takes care of it
[11:17] <apw> "no" or "one"
[11:17] <apw> ?
[11:18] <caribou> apw: alsactl[808]: /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1735: No soundcards found...
[11:18] <caribou> apw: I also get systemd complains about apparmor
[11:18] <apw> oh systemd, hmmm, cking didn't you have that barfing on you as well ?
[11:19] <cking> apw, it SEGV'd on an arm64 debian unstable update for me
[11:19] <apw> there is a new apparmour in xenail-proposed
[11:19] <cking> rendered the machine unbootable
[11:20] <cking> apw, I was not using apparmor 'cos I was using debian unstable ;-)
[11:20] <apw> cking, if it was debian then its off the table
[11:20] <apw> ta
[11:21] * cking notes that since systemd is critical to a functioning system we should probably do static analysis and some kind of formal stress testing on it to see if we can shake out bugs
[11:23] <diwic> caribou, could it be that the -extra kernel package is missing?
[11:24] <diwic> caribou, that matches somewhat with your description of missing sound and USB
[11:25] <caribou> diwic: I think you are onto something, yes it's not there
[11:25] <caribou> err, NO it's not there
[11:27] <caribou> diwic: apw: is it normal NO TO FIND a linux-image-extra for linux-image-4.2.0-18-generic
[11:27] <caribou> let me reboot to .17 for which I have one
[11:27] <apw> caribou, it is not normal no
[11:28] <apw> have you lost your linux-generic or something ?
[11:30] <caribou> apw: diwic: ok .17 works fine, I got everything back
[11:31] <caribou> apw: let me recheck my archive, one second
[11:31] <apw> caribou, so confirm you have linux-generic installed correctly
[11:31] <apw> caribou, and also check that apt-get install -f doesn't say you are in the middle of an update
[11:33] <caribou> apw: apt-get -f install is fine
[11:34] <caribou> I disabled my squid-deb-proxy as well
[11:34] <apw> and you have linux-generic installed, and you have no linux-image-extra-* ?
[11:34] <caribou> yes
[11:34] <apw> for that abi ?
[11:34] <apw> that ... is impossible (in theory)
[11:35] <caribou> apw: here is the result of apt-cache search linux-image : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13237767/
[11:35] <caribou> apw: maybe a mirror issue, let me point directly to the main archive
[11:35] <apw> caribou, before you do that
[11:35] <apw> show linux-generic | egrep 'Version:|Depends:'
[11:36] <apw> apt-cache show linux-image-generic | egrep 'Version:|Depends:'
[11:39] <caribou> apw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13237786/
[11:39] <caribou> apw: even with the main archive, I don't see any linux-image-extra for .18
[11:40] <apw> caribou, there is no -18 in xenial ... at alllll
[11:40] <caribou> apw: ok, now I now what happened
[11:41] <apw> this is a process fail, caused by the emergency cve release
[11:42] <caribou> apw: I manually installed .18 just before the upgrade because it was complaining that it couldn't find it in the xenial archive
[11:43] <caribou> apw: so I went back to wily & manually installed .18 (forgetting to install the -extra)
[11:43] <apw> caribou, ok ... that then is all explained, and i am asking for that to be copied up, it should have been
[11:43] <caribou> apw: then upgraded
[11:43] <apw> yep, and now you are in a mess :)
[11:43] <caribou> apw: well, no I still have .17 which has all the bits
[11:43] <apw> hopefully we'll get that copied up into xenial today, it should have been
[11:43] <caribou> apw: ok, so that's the source of the problem, good to know
[16:00] <dannf> rtg: thanks for the pull! sorry for not mentioning the branch - i actually thought about it and decided to omit it, because start/end hashs would be unique (if my git foo is accurate)
[16:03] <rtg> dannf, I think you have to know the branch in order to fetch the commit, but no matter.
[16:05] <dannf> rtg: cool - yeah, will go back to including the branch name. TA!
[16:05] <apw> right, the sha1s are unique in space and time (in theory) but you need a handle which is exported, which is a tag or branch, you can't fetch arbitrary sha1s from a repo
[16:06] * dannf didn't know you could restrict fetching shas to a branch - seems like every fetch i do from a remote get all objects
[16:06] <dannf> for some definition of all objects (not sure if objects from deleted branches are fetched)
[16:07] <rtg> dannf, a fetch should only be fetching the objects on that branch that you don't already have
[16:07] <rtg> if you fetch tags then you might be getting more then you need
[16:08] <dannf> i don't - just get fetch. for example, when i git fetch my wily remote, i get both wily/master and wily/master-next
[16:13] <henrix> iirc, when you do 'git fetch' it will fetch all remote tracking branches (there's a git-config to set those i believe)
[16:14] <henrix> e.g. remote.origin.fetch=+refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
[16:40] <apw> dannf, as henrix says a clean fetch is fetching "all branches" and any objects those reference you don't have
[16:43] <apw> dannf, so to use your sha's i'd have to actually add your entire repo as a remote and fetch it, then find the shas that way, its more normal to offer me a real branch as then i can git fetch git://... yourbranch:dannf
[16:43] <apw> ...
[16:45] <dannf> apw: got it - makes sense
[17:22] <kamal> rtg, so I find that I can get all of the linux/tools/* stuff to build in our chroots with just two more -dev packages:
[17:22] <kamal> +ADDPKG="$ADDPKG libpopt-dev libreadline6-dev"
[17:22] <kamal> I think we should just go ahead an add those to build-mkschroot
[17:23] <kamal> also, build-mkschroot feels like it needs a good cleanup ... there are waaaay too many separate case $SUITE clauses, including at least one that I think is entirely pointless
[17:24] <kamal> (a case that adds libssl-dev to some $SUITES -- but libssl-dev is already added to all suites)
[17:25] <kamal> I'll submit those two patches ^^, but will hold off on doing any more cleanup, in case you like it the way it is
[17:29] <rtg> kamal, I'm fine with that. it has accumulated a lot of cruft as we add special cases to it from release to release
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.761685
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-tr
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[07:27] <ogny> gunaydin
[08:34] <Kartagis> selam bebek
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.762544
| 2015-11-12T00:00:00 |
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"Kartagis",
"ogny"
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2015-11-12-#lubuntu-devel
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[02:20] <tsimonq2> ping
[02:21] <tsimonq2> ping
[02:24] <tsimonq2> ping
[02:25] <tsimonq2> ping
[02:25] <tsimonq2> PING
[02:28] <tsimonq2> !hi
[02:37] <tsimonq2> .
[02:38] <Unit193> tsimonq2: ...This isn't exactly a testing channel.
[02:38] <tsimonq2> Unit193: I apolosise, I moved to a PM
[02:39] <tsimonq2> s/apolosise/apologize
[02:53] <lububot> Hi %s!
[02:53] <tsimonq2> YES!
[02:54] <Unit193> !test | tsimonq2
[03:02] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[03:02] <lububot> Hi %s!
[03:02] <tsimonq2> well hey, this is gonna help us in the future, but I will move it to my channel for now
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.766117
| 2015-11-12T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu+1
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[11:54] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[19:17] <Cantthink> downloaded a source code i opened the install file i need specific programs to run the program how do i check for the software in terminal
[19:26] <genii> apt-cache search
[19:28] <Cantthink> thanks again
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.767203
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2015-11-12-#maas
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[01:03] <mup> Bug #1515442 opened: Install log doesn't indicate which disk is being installed to <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515442>
[01:16] <mup> Bug #1515448 opened: node boots old installation after deployment <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515448>
[06:49] <mup> Bug #1515498 opened: [1.9rc1] MAAS uses wrong IP for machine's A record <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515498>
[11:26] <mup> Bug #1515571 opened: Cluster Controller trying to connect to the region controller on the same system using the proxy <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515571>
[11:56] <mup> Bug #1512857 changed: Deploy fails with RAID 5 and Bcache <storage> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512857>
[11:56] <mup> Bug #1514094 changed: bcache setup fails in gmaas <curtin:In Progress> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514094>
[11:56] <mup> Bug #1514888 changed: curtin needs to notice that gdisk is not installed, and install it <regression> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Invalid by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514888>
[11:56] <mup> Bug #1515574 opened: set_simplestreams_env() modifies global state <tech-debt> <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515574>
[12:04] <dweaver> Anyone know how to increase the timeouts on the IPMI power requests, we are seeing failures and want to try increasing the timeout, looks like our IPMI interfaces can take over 20 seconds to respond.
[12:53] <mup> Bug #1515545 opened: Allocatable range not available from subnets api <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515545>
[12:56] <mup> Bug #1515545 changed: Allocatable range not available from subnets api <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515545>
[12:59] <mup> Bug #1515545 opened: Allocatable range not available from subnets api <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515545>
[13:02] <mup> Bug #1515545 changed: Allocatable range not available from subnets api <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515545>
[13:05] <mup> Bug #1515545 opened: Allocatable range not available from subnets api <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515545>
[13:24] <mup> Bug #1515545 changed: Allocatable range not available from subnets api <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515545>
[14:16] <roaksoax_> dweaver: not unless you hack the code, and if you are experiencing that, that's issues with your BMC's
[14:16] <roaksoax_> your firmware is buggy
[15:27] <mup> Bug #1515571 changed: Cluster Controller trying to connect to the region controller on the same system using the proxy <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515571>
[15:39] <mup> Bug #1515571 opened: Cluster Controller trying to connect to the region controller on the same system using the proxy <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515571>
[15:42] <mup> Bug #1515571 changed: Cluster Controller trying to connect to the region controller on the same system using the proxy <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515571>
[15:51] <mup> Bug #1515671 opened: MAAS 1.9 ignore configured archive for deployment only <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515671>
[16:21] <mup> Bug #1418915 changed: Static files served by the combo loader aren't cached by the browser <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418915>
[16:21] <mup> Bug #1515683 opened: Two radio buttons can be selected under boot <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515683>
[16:24] <mup> Bug #1515683 changed: Two radio buttons can be selected under boot <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515683>
[16:24] <mup> Bug #1418915 opened: Static files served by the combo loader aren't cached by the browser <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418915>
[16:27] <mup> Bug #1418915 changed: Static files served by the combo loader aren't cached by the browser <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418915>
[16:27] <mup> Bug #1515683 opened: Two radio buttons can be selected under boot <ui> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515683>
[16:30] <mup> Bug #1515683 changed: Two radio buttons can be selected under boot <ui> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515683>
[16:30] <mup> Bug #1418915 opened: Static files served by the combo loader aren't cached by the browser <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418915>
[16:33] <mup> Bug #1418915 changed: Static files served by the combo loader aren't cached by the browser <ui> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1418915>
[16:33] <mup> Bug #1515683 opened: Two radio buttons can be selected under boot <ui> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515683>
[20:16] <y2kenny> Hi, I found a bug in MAAS 1.9 beta 2 and I have a fix. What do I need to do to contribute a patch?
[21:00] <pmatulis> y2kenny: file a bug and put everything in there
[21:00] <pmatulis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+filebug
[21:10] <mup> Bug #1515769 opened: Failed to power on nodes on SM15k <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515769>
[21:19] <mup> Bug #1515769 changed: Failed to power on nodes on SM15k <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515769>
[21:22] <mup> Bug #1515769 opened: Failed to power on nodes on SM15k <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515769>
[22:46] <mup> Bug #1515448 changed: node boots old installation after deployment <oil> <curtin:Invalid> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515448>
[22:55] <mup> Bug #1515448 opened: node boots old installation after deployment <oil> <curtin:Invalid> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515448>
[22:58] <mup> Bug #1515448 changed: node boots old installation after deployment <oil> <curtin:Invalid> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515448>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.773026
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-fi
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[13:59] <persjalka> osaako usb:ltä buutattu muttei asennettu ubuntu löytää kovoja?
[14:04] <mjr> osaa
[14:07] <persjalka> kauanko tässä suurinpiirtein menee?
[14:07] <persjalka> pari tuntia odoteltu jo
[14:07] <elias_a> Heti ne näkyy.
[14:08] <elias_a> Miten koitat etsiä niitä?
[14:08] <elias_a> Ja mitä olisi tarkoitus tehdä?
[14:08] <persjalka> fdisk -l
[14:08] <persjalka> poistaa vanha windows asennus
[14:08] <elias_a> Millä väylällä se levy on koneessa kiinni?
[14:09] <persjalka> SATA
[14:10] <elias_a> Oliskos käytännöllistä kurkata vaikka gpartedillä tilannetta?
[14:11] <persjalka> voipi olla jos tietä mikä se on
[14:11] <elias_a> Softa. Pitäisi löytyä Ubuntun USB-versiosta.
[14:11] <persjalka> ny juoksee
[14:11] <elias_a> Eli klikkaa sitä työpöydän vasemman yläkulman kuvaketta ja etsi gparted.
[14:11] <persjalka> jo
[14:12] <elias_a> Joko näkyy levy?
[14:12] <persjalka> Scanning all devices..
[14:12] <elias_a> No niin. Tuolla pitäisi onnistua.
[14:13] <persjalka> kiitoksia
[14:13] <elias_a> Jos ei löydy, niin on vikaa SATA-piireissä, piuhassa tai levyssä. :)
[14:13] <elias_a> Np.
[14:13] <elias_a> Olen vielä hetken aikaa tässä linjoilla jos tulee vielä jotain ongelmaa.
[14:13] <persjalka> kyllä ne windowsin puolella kaikki toimii
[14:13] <persjalka> tai kolme levyä, yks on paskana
[14:14] <persjalka> mut sekin näkyy silti
[14:14] <elias_a> Nyt kun olet sitten Ubuntun puolella, voisit ajaa niille levyille SMART-testit.
[14:14] <elias_a> Löytyy Levyt-sovelluksesta.
[14:14] <persjalka> löytäs ne levyt ensin
[14:14] <elias_a> Sekin valmiina.
[14:15] <elias_a> Jaa sekö jää junksuttamaan?
[14:15] <persjalka> joo
[14:15] <elias_a> Sitten voi olla hankalampaa.
[14:15] <elias_a> Jännä jos ne silti on wintöötissä toimineet.
[14:38] <Thaurwylth> Varmaan niin uusi Ubuntu, että mistään levyjärjestelmä-epäyhteensopivuudesta ei voi olla kyse?
[14:39] <persjalka> ubuntu.com ehdotti tätä
[14:39] <persjalka> vai mikä olikaan
[14:40] <persjalka> noh, rinta leukaan ja kohti uusi pettymyksiä ->
[14:43] <Thaurwylth> Niin siis jos se on suoraan Ubuntun sivuilta otettu, niin ihan varmasti on riittävän uusi. Ei ainakaan NTFS käyttämisen kanssa ole ollut ongelmia vuosiin.
[14:43] <Thaurwylth> No perssetti!
[17:28] <Maakuth> https://letsencrypt.org/2015/11/12/public-beta-timing.html
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.779824
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-unity
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[13:44] <dandrader> ltinkl, would you have time to review that https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/fallbackCursorNames/+merge/277288 (and related branches)?
[13:58] <ltinkl> dandrader, yup sure, after I'm done with the new decos
[14:03] <kgunn> dednick: just in case, you saw bug 1515356
[14:04] <kgunn> ?
[14:07] <dednick> kgunn: yeah.
[14:13] <dandrader> ltinkl, ok, thanks. just make sure you claim them before you start (to signal you got them)
[14:13] <ltinkl> dandrader, yup
[15:56] <mterry> dandrader, we talked about a monitoring version of DDA, right? Did we decide anything about its feasibility? I'm going to start looking into that
[15:57] <dandrader> mterry, well, DDA is getting moved to ubunut-ui-toolkit
[15:57] <dandrader> mterry, let me find the branch....
[15:57] <mterry> dandrader, yeah I remember hearing that
[15:58] <mterry> thanks
[15:58] <dandrader> mterry, this time it's actually happening :)
[15:58] <dandrader> mterry, lp:~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/migrate_unity8_gestures
[15:58] <dandrader> mterry, it's almost top-approved
[15:59] <mterry> dandrader, heh lots of reviewers
[15:59] <dandrader> mterry, it's a lot of code
[15:59] <mterry> dandrader, so at a wild guess, this will make it harder for me to trick it into merely monitoring
[16:05] <dandrader> mterry, let me recap: you want the application to respond normally to the drag from the bottom edge, and at the same time you want unity8 drawing something on top of it, following the gesture?
[16:06] <mterry> dandrader, basically yes (the drawing something on top of it will be instead, "fading something out as the drag progresses", but yeah
[16:08] <dandrader> mterry, I guess for now we can modify unity8's DDA to have this "monitoring only" mode
[16:09] <dandrader> mterry, and later, once untiy8 moves to uitk's SwipeArea, we propose that change to their code base
[16:09] <dandrader> mterry, or, actually, propose the change and then move unity8 to use uitk SwipeArea
[16:10] <mterry> dandrader, I'll look into how complicated the change is
[16:10] <dandrader> mterry, shouldn't be. but it may take a while as you haven't seem the code before
[16:11] <mterry> dandrader, yeah makes sense. Good excuse to learn the code a bit :)
[16:11] <dandrader> mterry, and now that we know that we will have to move this change into uitk as well, extra care has to be taken on how to expose this in the public API
[16:12] <mterry> dandrader, yeah, I can't just add toplevel properties called "bool mikesMonitorMode: true"
[16:12] <dandrader> :-D
[16:12] <mterry> But first, lunch! :)
[16:13] <dandrader> mterry, I think what you have to do in this mode is the following
[16:13] <dandrader> mterry, not regiter candidacy for touch ownership with the TouchRegistry
[16:13] <dandrader> mterry, but instead just register yourself as a watcher straight away
[16:13] <dandrader> mterry, and once you recognize the gesture, do not request ownership over it or grab the touch
[16:15] <mterry> dandrader, thanks! will start looking there. And bug you if I need a rosetta stone :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.784773
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2015-11-12-#ubuntustudio
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[13:05] <vivancia> bonjour je souheterai un tuto pour bien comprendre la partie Son avec jack
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.786042
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"authors": [
"vivancia"
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[10:30] <rmg51> Morning
[11:44] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:21] <rmg51> Bye
[13:13] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.787132
| 2015-11-12T00:00:00 |
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"JonathanD",
"rmg51",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-gr
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[15:22] <jhj> Ξέρει κανείς από ουμπούντου εδώ μέσα να απαντήσει αυτό: http://askubuntu.com/questions/697215/booting-to-black-screen-how-to-actually-see-anything-to-fix-it
[15:27] <jhj> Μπορεί να φτιάξει κανείς τις εγγραφές στο φόρουμ γιατί δεν μου στέλνει email να επιβεβαιώσω...;
[18:16] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2810-1: Kerberos vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2810-1/> || USN-2809-1: LXD vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2809-1/>
[19:08] <hikiko> Για να κάνω ένα τεστ
[19:09] <hikiko> test
[19:09] <hikiko> Ωραία δουλεύει
[19:09] * hikiko estise znc :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.791571
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-community-team
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[00:51] <jose> czajkowski: you going to the ubucon summit or fosdem?
[02:41] <mhall119> popey: approved, but what caused the font size change in the first place?
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[07:46] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:40] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[08:43] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[09:03] <czajkowski> jose: hoping to go to summit, definately going to fOSDEM
[13:05] <popey> mhall119, sorry, updated my merge, if you could take another look pls. https://code.launchpad.net/~popey/ubuntu-terminal-app/fix-1514519/+merge/277240
[13:05] <popey> this works much better across different device sizes, thanks to ahayzen :)
[13:05] <ahayzen> :-)
[13:06] <ahayzen> popey, should the minimum also scale across devices or is '2' fine?
[13:06] * ahayzen thinks it is probably fine
[13:06] <popey> That's the point size, and yeah
[13:07] <popey> I mean, I can imagine really liking being able to go that low
[13:07] <popey> to get lots on screen at once on a tiny display
[13:07] <popey> for copy/selecting purposes
[13:07] <ahayzen> yeah
[13:11] <popey> ahayzen, feel free to review it ;)
[13:13] <ahayzen> heh :-)
[13:13] * ahayzen doesn't have enough devices to test different screen densities
[13:18] <popey> np :)
[13:18] <popey> I'm probably one of the only ones who does :)
[14:41] <dholbach> dpm_, popey, balloons, mhall119, davidcalle: what do we do in the docs hour today? :)
[14:42] <dholbach> do you guys know who maintains the bot which knows about new AU questions?
[14:45] <jcastro> dholbach: lazypower on freenode
[14:45] <jcastro> he knows who maintains it
[14:46] <jcastro> he's on the juju team, I'll bring it up in our daily in 15 minutes
[14:46] <davidcalle> dholbach, I'm heads down in scopes patches for a 14.04 SRU, but if you have any new doc work items for me, shoot :)
[14:46] <dholbach> jcastro, I'll ask the snappy team how they generally feel about it
[14:46] <dholbach> davidcalle, no, no worries - I just thought I'd remind everyone of our docs hour
[14:47] <dholbach> I'll review snappy docs trello cards and see what I can do about it
[14:47] <jcastro> dholbach: I wouldn't do one mail per question as mark suggests
[14:47] <jcastro> I would sign up the newsletter to the list address
[14:47] <jcastro> so you get one email a week with the good stuff
[14:47] <dholbach> jcastro, hum... I'm happy either way... I was mostly thinking about the irc bot for now
[14:47] * jcastro nods
[14:48] <mhall119> popey: your MP still has my approval
[14:48] <popey> hah, aweosme
[14:48] <jcastro> dholbach: I've always wanted to make AU time be like sponsorship time, but you know the challenges of that, heh
[16:57] <dholbach> davidcalle, if you look at https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft
[16:58] <dholbach> davidcalle, especially the picture - do you think we can steal this easily?
[17:00] <davidcalle> dholbach, oh, new pic!
[17:02] <davidcalle> dholbach, let me have a look at an imported result, but I don't think it will be an issue
[17:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, on a related note, this should be the snapcraft landing page on the site, I like it :)
[17:13] <dholbach> yes, it's great
[17:16] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, right now, if the image is on the page, it works OOTB, even the CI status icons work
[17:17] <dholbach> <3
[17:18] <davidcalle> dholbach, once thing I'm a bit concerned about is that, apparently, we don't handle page removal if it's not present in the import anymore
[17:18] <Na3iL> o/
[17:19] <davidcalle> dholbach, nevermind, we do, but the menu content is lagging, as usual
[17:22] <davidcalle> Time to go home, have a nice eod and tty tomorrow o/
[17:25] <dholbach> yes, same here
[17:25] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow! :-)
[19:15] <dpm_> jcastro, any ideas who could lend a hand with this AU question http://askubuntu.com/q/697318/9781 ? Not getting much traction after having asked a couple of times on #juju
[19:17] <jcastro> dpm_: in this order I would ask lazypower, cory_fu, then anthony fappiano in IS or one of the guys who is deploying the django stuff in production.
[19:17] <jcastro> dpm_: posting on the list linking to this question would definately get you more attention as well
[19:18] <dpm_> thanks jcastro, I seem to try juju about once a year, I get "nearly there", but then I have to give up. I'm determined this time around :)
[19:21] <jcastro> heh, you and me both!
[19:56] <teward> hi, I have a question. The community team ML is not for random polls right?
[19:59] <dpm_> teward, not really, it is more to discuss projects, issues, ideas, etc. related to the Ubuntu community
[20:00] <teward> dpm_: that's what I thought
[20:01] <teward> hate to ask stupid questions like that, but one user who is 'occasionally' annoying on one certain list that balloons is well familiar with sent out a mass poll to three lists (according to the to: line in the email), one of which I was on, and it was just a link to a Google form, supposedly for "What Ubuntu release are you using?" as a poll
[20:01] * teward may also be slightly more annoyed than normal, but this is not the first time this person has done something to trigger a response from teward
[20:02] <teward> i may have something sitting in that ML pending moderation, my computer hit "Reply All" wrongly, so you can reject that message if you can
[20:19] <dpm_> ok, thanks for the heads up!
[20:28] <balloons> teward,ty
[20:28] <teward> balloons: you're welcome (you now know the problem user again, and now the situation)
[20:28] <balloons> teward, indeed
[20:28] <teward> incoming PM to you though
[22:18] <czajkowski> mhall119: what is that link for getting started in ubuntu
[22:18] <czajkowski> or knowing where you cna find work towhere you start
[22:34] <mhall119> czajkowski: http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task/#!/toplevel/support
[22:34] <mhall119> it's also a button on the frontpage of http://community.ubuntu.com/
[22:43] <czajkowski> cheers
[22:43] <czajkowski> my googling foo was failing me
[22:58] <mhall119> czajkowski: no worries
[22:59] <mhall119> none of my foo is working for me today :/
[23:01] <czajkowski> I am all foood out
[23:01] <czajkowski> hmm food
[23:01] <czajkowski> I did have pizza earlier on but still pecking
[23:02] <czajkowski> *peckish
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.796362
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-hr
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[06:54] <BotaniCar> Jutro, junoshe !
[06:54] <BotaniCar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGj9h8ggCc
[06:54] <datase> YouTube: KLF - America What Time is Love - 0:04:48 - 971364 views - 3160 likes / 102 dislikes
[07:06] <BotaniCar> Novi logrotate za centos \o/
[07:25] <BotaniCar> #onokad ti mail server OOM-a
[08:13] <VjetarSaSunca> jutar
[08:40] <BotaniCar> Di kupujete serverovlje ? SuperMicro sam jedno vrijeme uzimao u Lab2000 , imate kaj drugog' ?
[08:44] <dodobas> yutro
[08:55] <SilverSp1ce> dan
[08:55] <vileni> BotaniCar: supermicro u openIT
[08:57] <BotaniCar> vileni: a INTEL ?
[08:57] <BotaniCar> ( zakaj OpenIT ? )
[09:15] <BotaniCar> Nis, poslao sam im zahtjev za ponudu, cemo vidimo
[09:15] <BotaniCar> Vidim da nude atom-based servere <3
[09:16] <vileni> BotaniCar: zato sto mogu zajebavati nicols ako nesto ne valja :)
[09:19] <vileni> evo bas dovrsavam slaganje whitebox sa plocom koju su mi isporucili, a1srm-2758f mislim
[09:19] <BotaniCar> cek, nicols dela tamo ? Nekak sam zabrijao da je on jedan od pornjavatora :)
[09:19] <vileni> nije, on je pristojan decko
[09:20] <BotaniCar> Ma joj, matx ! Ne gledam plocu ako nije ili full atx ili nestandardno mala ! :)
[09:20] <vileni> BotaniCar: pa ima i itx, ali nismo htjeli tu kad je ionako isla u obicno kuciste
[09:20] <vileni> a i trazi soddim
[09:21] <vileni> a neznam sto imas protiv matx, ako zadovoljava uvjete :)
[09:21] <BotaniCar> soddima i gomora !
[09:21] <BotaniCar> ma, uvijek mi nekaj zafali na matx plocicama
[09:21] <SilverSp1ce> uh
[09:22] <vileni> BotaniCar: imam gore 32gb ecc, 2x 2tb red, 2x 850 evo 256gb
[09:22] <vileni> i trosi 39w u idle
[09:23] <vileni> 48 kad povraya
[09:23] <BotaniCar> kol'ko mreznih ?
[09:23] <vileni> 4nica + ipmi
[09:23] * BotaniCar se nakloni na powray referencu !
[09:23] <vileni> preko ipmi sam mountao iso i instalirao ubuntu :)
[09:23] <BotaniCar> issati !
[09:23] <vileni> ima javusu koja radi i na linuxu za taj ipmi
[09:25] <jelly> heh
[09:31] <vileni> jos da mi Mmike da listu kako stoji proc u benchmarku :)
[09:31] <Mmike> da, nemam listu vise :/
[09:31] <Mmike> jelly je obrisao sve, a ne cuva ih
[09:31] <Mmike> morat cemo novo napraviti
[09:31] * Mmike ide krenit odmah :D
[09:32] <BotaniCar> Mmike: daj sprancu , kaj/kak powrayamo ? :D
[09:32] <Mmike> povray --benchmark
[09:32] <Mmike> that's that
[09:32] <Mmike> bilo bi zgodno da jos velis koja distra i koji kelner
[09:38] <Mmike> vileni: daj url opet
[09:38] <Mmike> aha, ne treba
[09:38] <Mmike> vileni: to je singlecore atom?
[09:39] <vileni> Mmike: 8core
[09:39] <vileni> rangeley mislim
[09:39] <Mmike> aha, pise
[09:39] <vileni> ili avoton
[09:45] <Mmike> http://ubuntu-hr.org/povraying.html
[09:45] <Mmike> ajte sad, obrut, dodobas , idemo, svi, jos :)
[09:46] <vileni> bas sam mislio reci zasto nemas neki sajt sa tim :)
[09:46] <Mmike> jbg :)
[09:46] <vileni> 3x sporiji od i7
[09:46] <Mmike> vileni: koji OS imas na tom atomu?
[09:47] <vileni> 14.04
[09:47] <Mmike> zena ima laptop s nekim praswtarim atomom pa cu bas probati
[09:47] <vileni> bit ce kvm host
[09:47] <vileni> a taj prastari, ocekujem barem 15min :)
[09:47] <Mmike> vileni: e, pa kul!
[09:47] <vileni> ovo je "serverski" atom
[09:48] <Mmike> vileni: bus povray i u KVMu
[09:48] <Mmike> zanima me bas razlika
[09:48] <Mmike> vileni: a bilo bi i zgodno kad bi prekompajlirao kernel i upalio ovo:
[09:48] <Mmike> mario@MIKE ~> grep CONFIG_MATOM /boot/config-3.13.0-67-generic
[09:48] <Mmike> # CONFIG_MATOM is not set
[09:48] <dodobas> Mmike: a gdje ti je verzija povreya ?
[09:48] <Mmike> dodobas: well played :)
[09:48] <BotaniCar> Mmike: de reci koji dio outputa nakon "povray benchmark" trebas ? Frajer mi je ispljunuo 2 kartice teksta :)
[09:48] <Mmike> BotaniCar: vidi kaj je vileni pejsto gore
[09:48] <Mmike> http://jebo.me/pas/6
[09:49] <vileni> Mmike: neznam da li cu stici isprobavati to sa kvm
[09:49] <vileni> mora server u produkciju uskoro
[09:50] <BotaniCar> Mmike: imam 2 takve vrijednosti ( http://jebo.me/pas/4 )
[09:51] <Mmike> vileni: ejebemu :(
[09:51] <Mmike> ok, sta sad :)
[09:51] <Mmike> morao sam probat
[09:52] <jelly> vileni: posto dodje to cudo?
[09:52] <Mmike> BotaniCar: kak mislis - dve? Daj i output od 'cat /proc/cpuinfo', daj i output od 'uname -a' i reci koja distra je to
[09:52] <jelly> i jel ima ECC rame?
[09:52] <BotaniCar> Mmike: dat cu ti sve skupa kad mi velis koja od 2 vrijednosti koje sam pasteao je ta koja je relevantna :)
[09:53] <Mmike> koje 2 ?
[09:53] <Mmike> pejsto si samo jedan url
[09:53] <Mmike> i to je ok
[09:53] <BotaniCar> jedan URL koji sadrzi 2 CPU-seconds vrijednosti, koja je "ta" ?
[09:53] <dodobas> Mmike: http://jebo.me/pas/3
[09:53] <BotaniCar> Veca ?
[09:54] <Mmike> BotaniCar: nisu bitni cpuseconds nego vrijeme renderiranja
[09:55] <BotaniCar> Mmike: http://jebo.me/pas/5@raw
[09:56] <Mmike> Linux DIG-RM2B 4.2.0-18-generic
[09:56] <Mmike> DIG-RM2B/
[09:56] <Mmike> ?
[09:56] <BotaniCar> ime stroja
[09:56] <BotaniCar> o'klen ti trailing slash ? :D
[09:56] <Mmike> ma to upitnik trebo bit :D
[09:57] <BotaniCar> :) Amerikanac :)
[09:57] <BotaniCar> Sad sam se sjetio kak mi je instruktor skoro dobio infarkt kad sam mu rekao da hocu HR kb layout kod polaganja RHSA :)
[09:58] <BotaniCar> "ALI JA TO MORAM RUCNO SLAGAT"
[09:58] <BotaniCar> "bas me briga"
[10:02] <vileni> Mmike: ploca je bila oko 3k
[10:02] <vileni> ecc kingstone smo uzeli na amazonu
[10:02] <vileni> tj jelly
[10:04] <jelly> a u koju skatulju ide takva ploca?
[10:05] <vileni> jelly: ova je matx standard
[10:05] <vileni> ima isti taj proc, samo sa sodimm ramom u itx formatu
[10:06] <dodobas> Mmike: jesi koristio kad citusdb?
[10:08] <Mmike> dodobas: samo altusdb
[10:08] <Mmike> cujem da je i fortusb odlicna
[10:09] <Mmike> :D
[10:13] <Mmike> dodobas: nisam :)
[10:14] <jelly> mandarinadb
[10:14] <BotaniCar> MANDARINADB !!!
[10:15] <BotaniCar> http://informaticar.eu/232-unuk/
[10:15] <dodobas> Mmike: GFY...
[10:19] <Mmike> dodobas: yup, ima super stvari tamo - preporucam
[10:19] <Mmike> dodobas: nisam znao da te to zanima, al ++, mogu ti pomoc, imam iskustva 's druge strane' :D (http://gfy.com/, o tom pricas, jelda?)
[10:22] <dodobas> Mmike: hocu dobar deal...
[10:26] <Mmike> to weshmashiana pitaj :)
[10:27] <dodobas> Mmike: a ocito ima neki biznis tamo, samo ne znam da se mozes obogatit
[10:29] <Mmike> pa ak krenes dobro
[10:29] <Mmike> kupi te netko veliki
[11:33] <obrut> upravo sretoh ChuS tu kraj firme...
[12:38] <BotaniCar> Opet mi INTEL ispadne 2x jeftiniji od najblize konkurentske ponude. Pocinjem se pitati da li prekupci hardvera imaju vece marze od prekupaca dizajnerske odjece.
[12:40] <BotaniCar> Instalacija Win10 u KVM mi je zaklala cijeli hipervizor :)
[12:48] <jelly> kaj ce ti kvm
[13:00] <jelly> http://res.cloudinary.com/spartz/image/upload/c_lfill,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_60,w_806/v1/prod/images/3281b7fb1249965debc8c4f6079c44d1.jpeg tehnicki SFW
[13:00] <Mmike> to je fora these days
[13:01] <BotaniCar> Dok god su obrijana, nisu tak' nepodnosljiva za gledanje <(gay>
[13:02] <BotaniCar> jelly: nekak se cini da radimo prebjeg s hyper-v na KVM iduce godine. Iako, da mi jaja stavis na panj ( jeben ti sliku i subliminalne sugestije) ne mogu opravdati svu slijednu zajebanciju ustedom na par licenci.
[13:03] <Mmike> BotaniCar: kak ne? imas hipervizore fino na linuxu i ne jebes se vise s potrganim hyper-vjem
[13:03] <Mmike> i unutra turas windowze
[13:03] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ali, hyper-v je toliko ne-potrgan da bi ga slobodno mogao proglasiti jedinom alternativom vmwaretu :)
[13:04] <BotaniCar> pazi, imam uzorak od 8 godina produkcijskog rada tog drekeca, nikad ni stucnuo nije
[13:04] <Mmike> pa, isto bi imao i s KVMom
[13:04] <BotaniCar> istovremeno su mi linux virtualke na njemu sto sranja priustile, kao i KVM-ovi koje imam hostane na tudjem serverlju :)
[13:04] <Mmike> pa to ti velim
[13:04] <BotaniCar> te se nemres spojiti na njega, te ti zahenga i tak
[13:04] <Mmike> linux virtualke na hypervu ne rade kak spada
[13:05] <Mmike> obrnuto nije case
[13:05] <BotaniCar> linux virtualke ne rade na nicem kak spada
[13:05] <BotaniCar> jer linux sam po sebi ne radi nesto posebno dobro
[13:05] <BotaniCar> al, nisam flejmer pa ne bi vodio tu vrstu rasšprave
[13:05] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ja sam valjda onda jedini kojem to radi kak spada :)
[13:05] <Mmike> http://ubuntu-hr.org/povraying.html
[13:06] <Mmike> ajmo! dajte mi jos!
[13:06] <BotaniCar> Cim dodjem doma ! :)
[13:07] <BotaniCar> Mmike: kak opce citam tu tablicu ? manje je bolje ?
[13:07] <BotaniCar> also : excep > except
[13:08] <jelly> expect
[13:08] <Mmike> thnx!
[13:08] <BotaniCar> expand(er)
[13:08] <Mmike> i da, sto brze to manje minutosekundi
[13:09] <jelly> expecto PATRONUM
[13:11] <BotaniCar> :) !! Steta kaj nema syncani H.P. , da upoznam dete s njim
[13:21] <Mmike> BotaniCar: http://zatomarketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/andy-happy-surprised.gif
[13:22] <vileni> Mmike: zasto nije sortano
[13:22] <vileni> i zasto je t7100 brzi od mog atoma
[13:23] <Mmike> vileni: kak ti to citas?
[13:23] <Mmike> tvoj atom napravi to za 7 minuta, moj c2d za 17
[13:23] <Mmike> kak nije brzi?
[13:23] <vileni> Mmike: aha, krivo
[13:23] <vileni> :D
[13:23] <vileni> ja sam gledao cpu-secs
[13:23] <Mmike> da, nije mi bas bistro kaj taj broj predstavlja
[13:23] <vileni> vec sam se uplasio da nije brzi od 8 generacija starog cpu-a
[13:24] <vileni> i7 ga fino zdere, ali sam proc tu kosta kao 80% supermicra
[13:25] <CrazyLemon> moj APU bolji od mmikeovog atlona \o/
[13:26] <Mmike> CrazyLemon: de pejstaj!
[13:26] <CrazyLemon> Mmike samo tracetime?
[13:27] <Mmike> CrazyLemon: jebomepasni, da... nesh poput: http://jebo.me/pas/6
[13:27] <Mmike> dodaj jos i 'uname -a'
[13:27] <Mmike> i reci koja distra
[13:29] <BotaniCar> LOLchek :D
[13:29] <Mmike> scaleway
[13:29] <CrazyLemon> Mmike http://jebo.me/pas/1
[13:29] <vileni> idem staviti na am1
[13:29] <vileni> da vidimo koliko ce dana biti
[13:29] <Mmike> starta im se server vec 7 minuta
[13:30] <vileni> tj, ako se ugase sve virtualke
[13:31] <vileni> nema smisla bas sa njima
[13:32] <Mmike> yup
[13:32] <BotaniCar> Mmike: nisam nigdje nasao u njihovom pricingu model s vise od 2GB memorije, imaju opce kaj takvog ?
[13:32] <Mmike> BotaniCar: nemam pojma :)
[13:32] <BotaniCar> ( oni = scaleway )
[13:32] <BotaniCar> cek, juju-enabled ?! :)
[13:33] <BotaniCar> fakat cu se morati pozabaviti tim canonical voodoom
[13:37] <Mmike> juju-enabled?
[13:37] <Mmike> di si to vidio?
[13:37] <Mmike> vjerojatno manual provider, sto znaci 'drkam drkam strcam a nisam svrsio'
[13:38] <Mmike> al' ok, bude doslo
[13:38] <Mmike> iako, meni se cini da su oni unusable :/ (scaleway)
[13:41] <Mmike> starting server - 16 minutes ago
[13:41] <Mmike> pa nisu normalni :)
[13:41] <Mmike> i sad ti skaliraj nesto :)
[13:45] <BotaniCar> to ti je juju :)
[13:46] <BotaniCar> nego, server je "prazan" ili moze biti da stuca jer si ga vec natocio s nekim servisom/ima ?
[13:46] <Mmike> ma prazan
[13:47] <Mmike> sad se zbuto
[13:47] <Mmike> valjda je dugo bio off pa su ga rhivirali ili nesto
[13:48] <pkiller> kad sam ja radio server u roku od odmah ga je digao
[13:51] <Mmike> ja sam sad napravio novi
[13:51] <Mmike> 3 minute
[13:51] <Mmike> al ovo je postojeci koji je ugasen
[13:51] <Mmike> al' citam sad da upgradeiraju storidz
[13:52] <BotaniCar> Pa, to s postojecim-ugasenim mi je full realan scenario, nabiem ih. Kaj ne nadogradjuju storidz tak da mi to ni ne znam, that's how i roll :) Ne velim klijentima nista i napravim tak da ni ne mogu skuzit' !
[13:52] <BotaniCar> Drugi dan posaljem "sad imate N vise diska kthxbye"
[13:53] <pkiller> više se isplati na novo svaki put... jer ti naplate IP i diskove za ugašene
[13:53] <Mmike> CrazyLemon: koji je to ubuntu?
[13:56] <BotaniCar> pkiller: pretpostavka je da na disku imas nesto vrijedno para, a da je IP linkan na neki FQDN koji netko koristi. Nanovo se isplati samo ako si jos u fazi testiranja
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> Mmike 14.04..
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> (inace pise i na paste psu)
[13:58] <pkiller> BotaniCar: ima logike da onaj kome je to bitno si može priuštiti plaćati kada i ne koristi te servise :)
[13:59] <BotaniCar> Ovaj Win10 mi i dalje kolje hipervizor :) Kaj moram spojiti SSDove u raid 20 da to nekak radi ? :D
[13:59] <jelly> 30!
[13:59] <pkiller> ali čini mi se da scaleway nije zreo za to za što vi to koristite... bolji je digitalocean sa apijem koji radi
[13:59] <BotaniCar> 30 ! \o/
[13:59] <jelly> so... scaleway ne skalira?
[14:00] <BotaniCar> Pretpostavljam da na oglase za posao koji pocinju s "Voliš izazovne i inovativne projekte?" ne smijem iskreno odgovoriti "ne" ?
[14:00] <pkiller> samo ime ti govori... scale -> away!
[14:00] <jelly> smiješ
[14:00] <BotaniCar> Velis, budem recruiteru olaksao zivot, a i sebi :)
[14:00] <Mmike> CrazyLemon: kaki ti je to kernel?
[14:00] <Mmike> 3.19?
[14:01] <CrazyLemon> Mmike da
[14:01] <Mmike> CrazyLemon: to si hwe kernel turao?
[14:01] <pkiller> "Odlično se snalaziš u stresnim situacijama?" :)
[14:01] <CrazyLemon> Mmike da again :D
[14:01] <Mmike> CrazyLemon: kul :) zakaj? :D
[14:01] <CrazyLemon> Mmike pa reko možda bolje radi apu sa novijim kernelom (koristim radeon driver)
[14:01] <CrazyLemon> ali sam se varao :D
[14:02] <Mmike> ja bi trebao 3.19 zbog btrfsa
[14:02] <Mmike> al' mi se tak neda drkat s tim
[14:02] <BotaniCar> pkiller: ovo s stresnim situacijama bi cak i odgovorio "da" :) Ali na "Zelis uciti" bi vjerojatno ispao s "da, ali ne ovo sto firmi treba" :)
[14:02] <jelly> Mmike: di to vadiš, iz onog kernel-ppa?
[14:03] <BotaniCar> Win10 ima "defer upgrades" :)
[14:04] <Mmike> jelly: ne, trusty-updates
[14:04] <Mmike> jelly: recimo: linux-generic-lts-vivid
[14:04] <Mmike> to je ovo kaj je CrazyLemon turio
[14:05] <Mmike> imas i linux-hwe-generic-trusty
[14:05] <jelly> pa jos bolje
[14:06] <jelly> vivid je na 3.19?
[14:06] <jelly> sta ce onda onda imat wily
[14:06] <BotaniCar> Steam ne radi s mesa driverom, s propriatery driverom nema frke ( ubuntu 15.04 i 15.10 )
[14:07] <jelly> meni je radio na video-intel uredno
[14:07] <BotaniCar> jelly: 15.10 ima 4.2.0-18-generic
[14:07] <jelly> nastranu sto igrica nije radila 100%, sam steam jest ;-)
[14:07] <BotaniCar> jelly: nda, nisam spomenuo najbitnije, ATI kartica, fala
[14:09] <Mmike> jelly: imas i wily kernel, da
[14:09] <Mmike> jelly: cek, bas sastancim s kernelatorima pa cu da pitam
[14:12] <CrazyLemon> nema jos wilyja za trusty
[14:14] <Mmike> mario@MIKE ~> apt-cache policy linux-generic-lts-wily
[14:14] <Mmike> linux-generic-lts-wily:
[14:14] <Mmike> Installed: (none)
[14:14] <Mmike> Candidate: 4.2.0.18.13
[14:14] <Mmike> Version table:
[14:14] <Mmike> 4.2.0.18.13 0
[14:14] <Mmike> 500 http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages
[14:15] <Mmike> 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main amd64 Packages
[14:15] <Mmike> kak nema?
[14:15] <jelly> nema!
[14:24] <Mmike> ping
[14:29] <BotaniCar> pluonk
[14:31] <CrazyLemon> oh..to je nesto novo
[14:31] <CrazyLemon> dva dana ili nesto tako nazad sam gledao i nije jos bio
[14:31] <Mmike> pa wily je releasan nedavno
[14:31] <Mmike> pa valjda zato
[14:31] <Mmike> doduse, nije mi jasno kaj je hwe kernel sad
[14:32] <Mmike> jer trusty-hwe je u verziji 13
[14:32] <Mmike> 3.13, jel
[14:32] <vileni> Mmike: http://jebo.me/pas/3u
[14:32] <Mmike> k
[14:33] <vileni> barem nije na kraju liste :)
[14:39] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan
[14:43] <jelly> dobar jutar
[14:58] <BotaniCar> http://idesh.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/porn.jpg ( technicaly, SFW ) :)
[15:02] <jelly> mucim kolege sa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWxlYYA8yrg
[15:11] <Mmike> jebote koje sranje ovaj mongodb
[15:11] <Mmike> customeru radi sve
[15:11] <Mmike> i nakon par dana replicaset razjebat
[15:11] <Mmike> dva primaryja
[15:11] <Mmike> i secondary koji je malo tu malo tamo
[15:11] <Mmike> logovi ne pokazuju nista
[15:12] <Mmike> kak se razjebalo? nitko ne zna :)
[15:54] <jelly> BotaniCar: https://imgur.com/r/SFWporn/ (oprez, zametne se pokoji nsfw)
[16:07] <ivoks> wily manili
[16:07] <ivoks> paaaaaaas masters
[16:25] <dodobas> pitanje: kod kvm-a, ili opcenito sto dobivam ako 'turnem' host kernel ?
[16:32] <jelly> di bi ga ti turno
[16:36] <dodobas> u guest
[17:42] <nicols> jutro
[17:43] <nicols> ima li netko raspoložen za jednu malu borbu oko sambe cupsa i printera? :)
[17:44] <jelly> [zvuk cvrčaka]
[17:44] <nicols> pih :/
[17:44] <nicols> a ja mislio da ovdje sve sami stručnjaci :D
[17:46] <jelly> nakon 8 sati krpanja, možda im se ne da nastaviti u istom revijalnom tonu
[17:47] <nicols> dakle: usb printer je uštekan u ženin laptop (win7) (ne pitaj). ja ga mogu dodat i printat na njega iz svoje win10 i win7 virtualke
[17:47] <nicols> ali kada probam iz kubuntu-a: held since Thu 12 Nov 2015 06:40:57 PM CET "Can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf - run testparm to debug it"
[17:47] <nicols> WTF?
[17:48] <jelly> moze jedno glupo pitanje
[17:49] <jelly> sto se desi kad pokrenes "testparm" u terminalu kao isti korisnik u istoj kde sjednici
[17:49] <nicols> ajd
[17:49] <nicols> niš, normalno sve
[17:50] <jelly> sve izgleda ok i postoje [printers] i [print$] ?
[17:51] <nicols> http://pastebin.com/WHZQMeBd
[17:51] <nicols> ma ti si genije
[17:51] <nicols> nešto tu fali
[17:52] <jelly> ne vidim [printers] sekciju, a i neki tamo include ne radi
[17:57] <nicols> ma taj include nije bitan
[17:57] <nicols> ček malo
[17:58] <nicols> http://pastebin.com/qmwajMBY
[17:59] <nicols> dodao sam printers (to je valjda neki difolt) ali i dalje ista greška
[18:06] <nicols> vratim se za 5 min
[18:21] <Mmike> "Poduzetnik može birati između 4! načina na koji će on biti zadnja rupa na svirali "
[18:21] <Mmike> lol 4! :D
[18:35] <jelly> ček, jel to (četiri faktorijela = 24)
[18:56] <nicols> ne dela :(
[18:56] <nicols> Mmike: jesi pogledao moj smb.conf?
[18:57] <Mmike> nicols, nisam, kaj sam trebo?
[18:57] <Mmike> nicols, cekaj, citam
[19:26] <nicols> prežero sam se palačinki
[19:26] <nicols> jesi pročitao?
[20:10] <Mmike> uspavo sam dite
[20:10] <Mmike> sad cu
[20:13] <Mmike> nicols, kol'ko se ja kuzim, smb.conf je za server, ne za client
[20:13] <Mmike> windowze shareaj printer
[20:14] <Mmike> odi u printers
[20:14] <Mmike> i dodaj printer
[20:14] <Mmike> i to bi moralo biti to
[20:14] <Mmike> mislmi da ti moraju ubuntui windoze biti u istoj workgrupi, inace ne radi
[20:14] <Mmike> bar je tak bilo nekad, ak se sjecam robro
[20:14] <nicols> kak si jako pametan!
[20:15] <nicols> šrobao sam sve te standardne džidže odavno
[20:15] <nicols> probao
[20:15] <Mmike> nesh nisi dobro probao, rekao bih ja :)
[20:16] <Mmike> ja sam na 10.04 iamo bed s time da mi moj turuntu nije bio u istoj grupi k'o i firmenski printer koji je bio na nekom windoze racunalu
[20:16] <Mmike> nisam se sa sambom opce morao jebavat, samo 'add printer' i vozi
[20:16] <Mmike> u medjuvremenu sam skuzio da ne zelim kupovati ne-mrezne printere :)
[20:24] <nicols> ista je wrkgrupa sigurno
[20:24] <nicols> nisam tolki tudum :)
[20:33] <Vlado9A3CY> nicols: koji windowsi su na tom kompu gdje je printer?
[20:35] <nicols> 7
[20:35] <nicols> jel trebam možda kaj prtljat sa onom enkripcijom?
[20:36] <budz0r> djevojchice i djechaci, ide reboot ubuntu-hr servera
[20:36] <nicols> strašno :)
[20:37] <budz0r> lol
[20:37] <Vlado9A3CY> ja sam imao problem sa šeranim printerom na kompu s win7 ...
[20:37] <Vlado9A3CY> ali sam riješio ...
[20:37] <Vlado9A3CY> pa sam uspio pristupiti i printati iz linux kompa u lokalnoj mreži
[20:38] <Vlado9A3CY> ali sada bim morao potražiti bilješke jer taj slučaj je history
[20:38] <Vlado9A3CY> *bih
[20:39] <Vlado9A3CY> u svakom slučaju, sve potrebne informacije našao sam uz pomoć internetske tražilice
[20:47] <Mmike> nicols, prodaj printer, kupi mrezni, ima ih za 300-400 kuna :)
[20:48] <nicols> imam na poslu dva nova color lasera
[20:48] <nicols> poklanjamo ih
[20:48] <nicols> :D
[20:57] <nicols> a dobro, ako neće nitko, lete u elektronski otpad
[21:02] <Vlado9A3CY> nicols: a zakaj poklanjate te printere?
[21:09] <Mmike> nicols, ocu ja!
[21:09] <Mmike> nicols, JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJAJA
[21:10] <Mmike> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
[21:10] <Mmike> | | / \ | | / \ | | / \ | | / \ | | / \ | | / \
[21:10] <Mmike> _ | |/ _ \ _ | |/ _ \ _ | |/ _ \ _ | |/ _ \ _ | |/ _ \ _ | |/ _ \
[21:10] <Mmike> | |_| / ___ \ |_| / ___ \ |_| / ___ \ |_| / ___ \ |_| / ___ \ |_| / ___ \
[21:10] <Mmike> \___/_/ \_\___/_/ \_\___/_/ \_\___/_/ \_\___/_/ \_\___/_/ \_\
[21:10] <Mmike>
[21:10] <Vlado9A3CY> thinking out loud
[21:48] <nicols> može, printeri nemaju tonera
[21:48] <nicols> ne postoje zamjenski :)
[21:49] <nicols> jedan košta preko 1200 kn
[21:49] <nicols> moraš stavit sva 4 da bi printer radio
[21:49] <nicols> kupiš od mene sva 4 tonera, još ti dam ui popust, i dobiješ printer na poklon :D
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-doc
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[19:57] <teward> hello. The doc team mailing list isn't the place for polls to randomly be sent to, right?
[20:11] <pmatulis> teward: hi, welcome. what sort of poll?
[20:11] <teward> pmatulis: well, unless Alberto (es20490446e AT gmail) is on the list, i doubt it'd hit, since my accidental reply all got rejected instantly
[20:12] <teward> pmatulis: "What Ubuntu release are you using" with a plain link to a Google form apparently
[20:12] <teward> he sent an email burst to three MLs with that
[20:12] <teward> (not the first time he's been on my radar for "WRONG" actions)
[20:17] <pmatulis> teward: i don't understand "well, unless Alberto (es20490446e AT gmail) is on the list, i doubt it'd hit, since my accidental reply all got rejected instantly"
[20:18] <pmatulis> sorry, it's been a long day for me
[20:20] <teward> pmatulis: he emailed the list
[20:20] <teward> email matches the item in parens
[20:20] <teward> the message was a link to a Google form
[20:20] <teward> the subject was "What Ubuntu release are you using"
[20:20] <teward> sounds like a random poll to me, but it's not got a place on this ML or the others
[20:20] <teward> (if that address isn't 'registered' to use the list though, and is not a member, then there's no issue)
[20:27] <pmatulis> teward: well the posting was made, so i guess he is subscribed
[20:28] <teward> mm
[20:28] <teward> well mine wasn't and was autorejected - point not withstanding, whether that's the correct place for a poll or not
[20:30] <pmatulis> teward: i agree that he should have put some context around the request and not used a bombing style approach which is typical of spam
[20:31] <teward> mghm
[20:31] <teward> mhm*
[20:31] <teward> pmatulis: granted i'm not on the doc team list, but the to: field is revealed to all who received
[20:32] <pmatulis> teward: yeah, i see 4 lists
[20:32] <pmatulis> Ubuntu Quality Team <[email protected]>,
[20:32] <pmatulis> Ubuntu Community Team <[email protected]>,
[20:32] <pmatulis> Ubuntu Papercuts Ninjas <[email protected]>,
[20:32] <pmatulis> Ubuntu Documentation Team <[email protected]>
[20:32] <teward> ooo yeah, i forgot I snip out Papercuts
[20:33] <teward> pmatulis: -community-team got my poke, i think ALberto is in charge of papercuts, and balloons already responded to the poke regarding the QA list
[20:33] <teward> but yes, I don't like the "drop a bomb" email burst style used
[20:33] <teward> and as i said before, this person's been on my radar and others before
[20:34] <teward> but meh. s
[20:34] <teward> sorry for making noise :)
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:59] <OerHeks> I have no question, is it oke to ask a non-question?
[00:59] <OerHeks> *hips*
[01:03] <daftykins> that one needed euthanising ;)
[01:04] <wileee> ahh, nothing like a mod ban for real satisfaction
[01:04] <wileee> a lobotomy
[01:05] <wileee> err maybe that was the cause, we never know
[01:06] <Bashing-om> some just do not take a gentle hint .
[01:11] <wileee> the freaks come out at night somewhere
[01:17] <daftykins> :D
[01:17] <daftykins> i can't believe Mozilla are taking tab groups out of Firefox :(
[01:18] <daftykins> it'll be some time yet, v45... but that's still sad
[01:19] <wileee> I use speed dial, never checked ff
[01:19] <wileee> less addons the better however
[01:31] <daftykins> nn folks! :)
[01:38] <OerHeks> :-)
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:04] <Latrodectus> good morning to you
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> hey Latrodectus
[05:20] <wileee> morning
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> morning wileee :p
[05:25] <wileee> ;)
[05:44] <wileee> mothership says no on a perfect world, takes all the fun out
[05:45] * wileee adjust the tinfoil beret
[05:51] * lotuspsychje looks to the sky for aliens
[06:18] <Latrodectus> why look to the skys for aliens when you can just look in the mirror...
[06:22] <Latrodectus> http://www.wired.com/2015/11/cia-email-hackers-return-with-major-law-enforcement-breach/ lol
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> good noon to all
[11:09] <cfhowlett> evening ...
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> hey cfhowlett how are you doing today
[11:10] <cfhowlett> another day at the races and I'm tired of the upskirt view of the rat in front ...
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: what kind of races going on?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> rat races! they don't have those where you live/?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> no we dont lol
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> we have horses here, but not so popular
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> car/motorcycle races we have
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: did you ever win $$$ with the rats?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> nah. in the rat race, you're lucky if you get your customary hourly wage on time.
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:31] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: man i downloaded a movie from http://torrentsmovies.net
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: lets not do that here
[11:31] <EriC^^> wth it asks for a password
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> pm
[11:32] <EriC^^> ok
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[11:54] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[11:54] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> bbl dinnertime
[14:46] <daftykins> hey all \o
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[14:47] <TJ-> afternoon :)
[14:47] <daftykins> new OS for my xbox and new build of windows 10 for official release today :O
[14:48] <daftykins> i trust upgrades for a console as much as i do a PC, so i'll be letting it install then performing a factory reset :D
[14:55] <TJ-> which reinstalls the original OS :D
[14:55] <daftykins> "welcome to XP"
[14:55] <daftykins> noooooo
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:56] <daftykins> one thing i have done is left that game install HDD disconnected ;)
[14:57] <TJ-> good plan Sherlock
[14:57] <TJ-> After last time you don't need to be messing about
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> bbl shop
[14:59] <TJ-> I'm trying get hold of a replacement for the ancient M34510E8 MCU so I can copy the code from the old one and test it on the workbench, and maybe improve the program a bit. Might have to invest in a Linux freezer
[14:59] <TJ-> I think I could just swap in an Arduino or RasPi actually :)
[15:00] <daftykins> :D
[15:00] <TJ-> I'm reverse-engineering the file format for the Windows InstallShield .Z files right now, so I can extract some ancient emulator/programmer tooling from Renesys for the range of MCUs it belongs to
[15:01] <daftykins> hehe, well if you need someone to quickly run something on Windows to pinch the files out of, i'd be happy to :)
[15:02] <TJ-> Well, all the controller had to do is read 3 thermistors, switch 4 mains outputs (condensor, evaporator fan, defrost heaters, read 4 GPIO buttons and write to an LCD display
[15:03] <TJ-> Oh, I could do it with wine, but the installer wants a licence acceptence and I don't want to accept the terms - I just need the spec for this MCU :)
[15:03] <TJ-> I enjoy reverse-engineering file formats anyhow; not done one in ages
[15:05] <daftykins> :D
[15:06] <TJ-> I've just finished decoding the headers and writing a program to display them cleanly so I can deduce the next layer
[15:08] <daftykins> that's dedication! i'd have whipped up a disposable VM ;)
[15:20] <TJ-> The Linux tools don't know how to read the format, but the magic is known, so as its pretty trivial I may as well write a library for it
[15:59] <Guest74872> hi, please help, career wise how ubuntu helpful over windows ?
[16:00] <TJ-> Linux implies you're able to think for yourself :)
[16:01] <Guest74872> TJ-: what does that mean
[16:01] <Guest74872> TJ-: i dont to be a end user on windows/ubuntu, i want to be developer or programmer and make a career, so does everyone here
[16:02] <Guest74872> kindly help, currently direction less, i knew it is very basic question, most of the time discussed , u see we are new audience here now, we missed that discuss that out bad luck
[16:02] <daftykins> i take it 'here' isn't this channel, because i don't want to be a dev.
[16:03] <Guest74872> do so there are documentation or archive of such discussion
[16:03] <daftykins> who are 'we' ? i have no idea what you mean.
[16:03] <Guest74872> we means we all
[16:03] <daftykins> also what language do you speak? you're quite hard to follow
[16:03] <Guest74872> we not only use but we further develop
[16:04] <daftykins> we are legion.
[16:04] <Guest74872> career wise, apart from unix admin, what we could be ? please tell me
[16:05] <daftykins> i think you'd be better off with #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:06] <Guest74872> dear from #ubuntu told to go #ubuntu-discuss and now to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:06] <Guest74872> hope i will get help
[16:10] <daftykins> well you see, the topic is discussion of ubuntu
[16:11] <TJ-> Guest74872: if you want to be a developer find an area of Ubuntu you're interested in, pull in the source code, and explore.
[16:13] <TJ-> Guest74872: learn about and practice with the tools that Ubuntu/Linux provides you. Learn about how a Linux system is built and its file-system organised. Learn about how the Linux kernel presents devices and services to userspace. The possibilities are endless
[16:15] <Guest74872> TJ-: scripting like bash, ksh, awt , sed are my secondary skills
[16:16] <Guest74872> not full time job
[16:16] <Guest74872> i am oracle guy, full time on plsql
[16:16] <Guest74872> i schedule tasks under unix
[16:17] <Guest74872> secondary skillset is not my full time job
[16:17] <TJ-> Guest74872: the easiest way to learn is pick a subject are you're interested in and develop code for that
[16:18] <Guest74872> can scripting be made full time job ?
[16:18] <TJ-> no, it's a part of general system administration
[16:20] <Guest74872> in general databased are installed on servers, servers on mostly unix, unix will system admin and databases will database admin
[16:21] <Guest74872> it above situation, how many servers do company have, so how many system admins and how many database admin (dba)
[16:22] <Guest74872> hardly 5 servers if so, then 4-5 system admin and 4-5 dbas ...........where do programmers or developers fit and what work they do is my question
[16:26] <TJ-> programmers and write and package the code the sys/dbs-admins use
[16:26] <TJ-> s/programmers and/programmers and developers/
[16:27] <Guest74872> what are chances of application programmer (business logic ) under unix rather than system programmer ( developing tools, utils ...)
[16:27] <TJ-> there are many more application programmers than system programmers
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: what kind of games you play on xbox?
[18:01] <daftykins> mmm a lot really, Halo... co-op zombie survival thing with two local friends, racing games... platformers... puzzle games :D
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> nice
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: first person shooters?
[18:02] <daftykins> yeah sometimes
[18:02] <daftykins> i just grabbed this latest Halo 5 the other day
[18:02] <daftykins> this new OS is so much faster on this console now, i'm letting it download an older xbox360 game to test out the PPC emulation now :)
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> grabbed from the store yeah :p
[18:03] <daftykins> yep, usually i order online but i spent the extra £6 this time to support a local shop
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> nice
[18:03] <daftykins> £33.33 delivered from amazon UK, or £39.99 locally :D
[18:03] <daftykins> there's a new Tomb Raider out tomorrow that looks good, too
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> ohhhh lara rrrr
[18:04] <daftykins> haha
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:04] <daftykins> i should probably focus more on work than games :P
[18:04] * lotuspsychje throws lara in OerHeks's neck
[18:05] <daftykins> reminds me, i need to quote for a patch panel, switch and cabling now
[18:05] <OerHeks> oh no, now the nerds are going after me
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> there are nerds here??
[18:06] <daftykins> XD
[18:06] <TJ-> I don't know how you guys find time for games !
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: we all have multiple screens like your layout :p
[18:07] <TJ-> but how do you find *time* to play?
[18:07] <daftykins> TJ-: by not really having a proper day job sadly :)
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> !life | TJ-
[18:07] <TJ-> I can understand if they were casual games, but those that require hours of play to get anywhere...!
[18:08] <daftykins> hehe
[18:08] <TJ-> life is offtopic - ubottu can eat my butt!
[18:08] <daftykins> it's quite a neat way to keep up with some friends who live in England, too
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: the more advanced gamers run through levels faster :p
[18:08] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: my partner plays games so I know - he has no time for life!
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> depends wich game of course
[18:08] <TJ-> bloody WoW!
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> like WOW
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> i dont understand those big $$$ spend time-eating games
[18:10] <TJ-> I can about find time to play Freecell a couple of times a week :)
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:11] <TJ-> I've just had a lot more fun trying to figure out why my structure definition for this file-format I'm reverse-engineering was 'stepping' over some bytes, making the following fields pick up the wrong data... then I realised I hadn't told te compiler to 'pack' the structure so 16-bit values were being aligned to 32-bits, shifting everything after along by 2 bytes
[18:11] <daftykins> ah see i can't tolerate those big ones that are life and soul sucking :)
[18:12] * lotuspsychje facepalms
[18:12] <daftykins> puka is really annoying me
[18:13] <TJ-> right, well, now more life calls ... dinner to make. beefburger 'n chips, mmmm
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: i think its pikachu's brother lol
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> he came for revenge
[18:13] <daftykins> XD
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: bon apetit mate
[18:14] <OerHeks> it is, poeka/pikashoe
[18:14] <TJ-> you too.. don't go breaking any more mobos ... my TODO list is TOOLONG
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i have another bug for you next haha
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: on the same system!
[18:14] * TJ- runs faster than a Husky being chased by a sled
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> hahaha
[18:15] <daftykins> XD
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> to comfort you, it has been chasing me for all ubuntu versions
[18:15] * OerHeks runs faster than a chihuahua after a pittbull
[18:15] <TJ-> oh - took them out for a very long road walk this morning... they're stiff and have been laid out all day since
[18:15] <OerHeks> Drabber is a killer, you know
[18:15] <TJ-> pftt - they can't keep up with me :)
[18:16] * daftykins wonders if TJ- cycles with them
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1513801
[18:17] <TJ-> Over summer I rode whilst Pepper ran but now its wet its hard to do around the fields, ground is soft and bumpy and I get sprayed with mud and wet
[18:17] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: that'll be due to the GPU not being correctly initialised. could be flaky GPU memory that needs literally warming up
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: yeah could be another mobo motor issue :p
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> bloody ol abit :p
[18:18] <daftykins> crikey i've not had an Abit for years
[18:18] <daftykins> i just to love those but then all their good engineers/designers got poached by Asus i think
[18:19] <daftykins> so Asus are my new love :>
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> pretty stable mobo, but hard to config
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yeah that link you pasted the other day rrrr
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> sexy mobo
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> in that case you showed / samsong 950 ssd
[18:20] <daftykins> :D
[18:20] <daftykins> i've decided to wait and see on that front, as i just know i'd spend the money and still just be here on IRC ;)
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:21] <daftykins> be a lot of fun to do a brand new build though
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> yeah my vision is, as long as the old hardware still working
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> plugged in ssd's everywhere and were good for years again
[18:23] <daftykins> :D
[18:23] <daftykins> well, my core 2 quad desktop is 8 years old this Christmas.
[18:23] <daftykins> i know that everything new is now 4 times faster, based on benchmarks
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> if its fast enough for us
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> i find ubuntu on older machines rocknroll
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> second life ecologic
[18:25] <daftykins> it's developed a few quirks with age too, i've dealt with it for a long time but eventually i'll just want something totally reliable
[18:25] <daftykins> mind you, i don't 100% fancy being an early adopter with those NVMe Samsung SSDs... there might be some kinks to work out for Q1'16 :)
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> im gonna stick with 850 pro for now
[18:26] <daftykins> plus, and i know you're not keen on this side of the world... but you have to use samsung's own NVMe driver under Windows right now as Microsoft's is a bit too new
[18:27] <daftykins> be nice if that were resolved so it didn't need to be done on clean installs
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> yeah herd that linux support is yet to come
[18:27] <daftykins> reminds me of floppy RAID drivers in server 2003 *shudder*
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> brrrr
[18:31] <daftykins> such a brave new world this, that 360 game just finished downloading -> went to run it, "700MB update"
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> oO
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> a bit like its host: 'winblows'
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> update all night lol
[18:32] <daftykins> now now, that's a rather youthful attitude :P
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[18:32] <daftykins> actually the new win10 was a 3GB download today ;)
[18:33] <daftykins> painful, but not far off seeing all the kernels mount up in ubuntu...
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: did you read what they will do with 7 and 8
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> in one year they wont sell it anymore
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> and force everyone to 10
[18:34] <daftykins> yep, but that happens when every release goes out of mainstream support
[18:34] <daftykins> it's no different than an ubuntu release going EOL
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> but 8 is brand new
[18:34] <daftykins> it also sucked :) standard rule, every other release is terrible
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> they all suck lol
[18:35] <daftykins> i was sat to see that Vista is still inside extended support until April 2017 or something
[18:35] <daftykins> i see problems with all OSs :)
[18:35] <daftykins> PaulW2U_: o/
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> ok movienight
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: laterz mate
[18:39] <daftykins> o/
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> :p
[19:40] * TJ- returns belatedly
[19:40] <TJ-> daftykins: At least with Linux you have the choice to install an old release, and patch it yourself :)
[19:52] <daftykins> haha
[19:52] <daftykins> i can't think when i'd ever choose that mind you - but then i'm always thinking from the focus of my clients, not my own usage directly
[19:52] <daftykins> just the folks i support
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> !isitoutyet
[22:23] <OerHeks> out of what?
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks i meant it jokingly, referring to 16.04
[22:25] <OerHeks> i am on 15.04 :-D
[22:46] <daftykins> :>
[22:54] <wileee> insert pop reference to out here------>
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-quality
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[19:55] <teward> balloons: alive?
[20:31] <flocculant> teward: I sadly shot an arrow at him last night :(
[20:31] <teward> flocculant: ?
[20:31] <teward> OH
[20:31] <teward> you mean the thing I"m poking ballons, -community-team, and -doc about
[20:31] <teward> :P
[20:32] <flocculant> no - I meant balloons - he popped :(
[20:32] <teward> oh
[20:32] <teward> flocculant: he's alive right now :)
[20:32] <flocculant> and yes I know what you're poking him about really ;)
[20:32] <balloons> something like that indeed
[20:32] <flocculant> balloons: !!!!
[20:32] <teward> with regards to THAT person, arrows don't work
[20:33] <flocculant> bazooka
[20:33] <teward> bah
[20:33] <teward> that's low-scale
[20:33] <teward> I was thinking katyusha rockets
[20:33] <flocculant> :)
[20:35] <teward> (don't blame me, i have been watching a documentary on World War II)
[20:35] <balloons> anyways, how's things flocculant?
[20:35] <flocculant> balloons: all good here thanks :)
[20:36] <flocculant> getting a few new people interested in our qa stuff
[20:37] <flocculant> pushing more packagy things this cycle we are
[20:40] <balloons> flocculant, yes, I've seen such things
[20:40] <balloons> getting a better response as well I trust?
[20:40] <flocculant> than the last few cycles yep
[20:40] <balloons> everything a-ok on the package tracker? BTW, it seems the LTS will have some new default packages for ubuntu. Is xubuntu changing any defaults?
[20:41] <balloons> we'll need to review the manual test suites again and make sure we have coverage
[20:41] <flocculant> my new team member is setting up a session for us for new people
[20:41] <flocculant> balloons: we might be losing a default
[20:41] <flocculant> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-November/010948.html
[20:42] <flocculant> balloons: also ofc - we'll be affected by what happens with usc
[20:42] <flocculant> really need to find out if that's REALLY happening - we're a bit mumbly about wanting yet another gnome thing
[20:47] <flocculant> and yea - the tracker is fine thanks :D
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:50] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 你是290 : 原来你就是传说中的290?！""290是啥?""290就是250+38+2"...
[02:37] <onlylove_> 谁告诉我network manager这坨shit是哪个写的！
[02:38] <onlylove_> 是不是又是lennart!
[02:38] <onlylove_> 猫猫除了内核拿得出手，还有什么能拿出手的！
[02:38] * onlylove_ 建议猫猫以后只维护内核，别做发行版了
[03:05] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i2.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M07/0B/0F/Cg-4V1JWG-GIXP4oAADy69GDdl4AAMY3wKJvuIAAPMD042.jpg 土豪新娘
[03:12] <lainme> onlylove_: 但是别的更不好吧。NM多数时间都是可以干活的
[03:13] <onlylove_> lainme: 猫猫原来自己的/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts哪里不好了，默认的base server为毛不装nm
[03:13] <onlylove_> lainme: 既然nm这么好
[03:13] <onlylove_> lainme: 实际上就是猫猫自己也知道是坨shit
[03:13] <lainme> onlylove_: 我说gui的
[03:14] <onlylove_> lainme: gui当我没说，但是这东西给我除了制造麻烦还没给我什么方便
[03:14] <onlylove_> lainme: 哦，gui我用wicd，除了功能弱以外，没啥坏处
[03:15] <lainme> onlylove_: nm功能比较全，一些vpn也有第三方插件。现在还有一键建热点，上次试了，能用。
[03:17] <onlylove_> lainme: 我只是要网络能用而已，虽然不知道哪个在xen服务器上装的GUI
[03:17] <onlylove_> lainme: 而且那server诡异的很，没有eth0,我删了udev的rules，它还是从1开始数数
[03:19] <lainme> onlylove_: 那你是还没被systemd折磨过，都变成了类似enp1s0这样的名字
[03:19] <onlylove_> lainme: 我自己的laptop是systemd啊……
[03:19] <happyaron> lainme: 那是内核的事情吧
[03:19] <onlylove_> lainme: 这个server不知道怎么搞的
[03:19] <happyaron> lainme: 然后发行版都这么搞了
[03:20] <onlylove_> lainme: 反正网卡名字，不要介意了
[03:20] <lainme> onlylove_: happyaron http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[03:20] <ubrl> ⇪ t: PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
[03:21] <happyaron> lainme: udev...
[03:22] <onlylove__> happyaron: 说起来，我还真没看我那jessie的网卡叫啥名，都是wicd搞的 cc lainme
[03:22] <happyaron> 没用过wicd的摊手
[03:23] <onlylove__> happyaron: 和我说说，那个centos从1开始数数咋回事
[03:23] <onlylove__> happyaron: 不过我觉得应该问adam
[03:24] <happyaron> onlylove__: persistant net?
[03:24] <onlylove__> happyaron: 嗯
[03:24] <happyaron> 70-persistant-net.rule 是这个吧
[03:24] <happyaron> 还是udev的锅
[03:30] <onlylove_> happyaron: 其实我觉得这事和我可能有一定关系，那个机器是我用vmware使用物理硬盘装的base system，然后丢给别人了
[03:31] <happyaron> 哦
[03:31] <onlylove_> happyaron: 不过我删过rules了……
[03:32] <onlylove_> happyaron: 所以这事还是很诡异
[03:36] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • ubuntu14.04 无法连接到局域网 求助帮助，万分感激！！！！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473820 在自己本机上装的vmware workstation，自己本机上有两个网络，一个无线网，一个连接到公司内部的局域网，然后在vmware workstation上装的 ubuntu14.04,用root账户进去
[03:53] <onlylove_> systemd还没死，不开心
[03:57] <^k^> 新 C/C++/Java • elementary freya 启动eclipse 报错 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473821 系统中安装的Jdk 环境为: jdk-8u65-linux-x64.tar.gz 放在 /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.8.0_65/ eclipse 版本： eclipse-jee-mars-1-linux-gtk-x86_64 放在/usr/local/eclipse JDK 环境变量配置好了的，java -version 如下结果； java version "1.8.0_65"
[03:57] <^k^> ─> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_65-b17) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.65-b01, mixed mode) …
[04:05] <MangHuo> onlylove: 当当老司机和大象老司机呢
[04:33] <onlylove> MangHuo: 当当一般下午来吧，大象不知道呢
[05:01] <yunfan> MangHuo: 蛋蛋去新公司了 搞不好封闭了呢
[05:01] <yunfan> 也有可能只是换名字
[05:03] <onlylove__> yunfan: 这两天还来的，应该不至于，他只是下午来或者下班前来而已
[05:03] <onlylove__> yunfan: 前几天还找人问mac的问题
[05:08] <yunfan> onlylove__: 新公司 新政策 谁知道呢
[05:09] <yunfan> Zesty_: 你也来了
[05:09] <yunfan> 居然 nyfair 今天也这么早来
[05:09] <yunfan> 我得弄个机器人统计下
[05:11] * tryit 瞌睡
[05:53] <circ-user-JgcuS> hello
[05:53] <ubrl> circ-user-JgcuS:点点点. 13:55
[05:56] <circ-user-JgcuS> 什么 ？
[05:56] <circ-user-JgcuS> 这里没 人的？
[06:01] <onlylove_> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46137
[06:01] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 方滨兴谈Google重返中国
[06:08] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 经典笑话:夫妻夜话 : 婴儿诞生了,每天午夜,宝宝总要哭闹一番,妻子总是摇醒我:"起来,亲爱的,去看看宝宝为什么哭?" 后来,我用书中介绍的方法让宝宝安静地睡了。可是午夜,妻子又把我摇醒:"起来,亲爱的,看看宝宝为什么不哭?"
[06:09] <nyfair> 祝方校长早日战胜病魔
[06:09] <nyfair> 另祝病魔早日战胜李开复
[06:44] <Niac> nyfair: 李开复怎么呢
[06:45] <^k^> 新 数据库管理 • ubuntu 15.10 安装 mysql-server 时出现如下错误： http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473822 insserv: Starting vmware-USBArbitrator depends on grub-common and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! insserv: Max recursions depth 99 reached insserv: loop involving service vmware at depth 2 insserv: loop invo
[06:45] <^k^> ─> lving service mountkernfs at depth 1 insserv: loop involving service vmware-USBArbitrator at depth 1 insserv: There i …
[06:47] <onlylove> Niac: 李开复貌似是淋巴癌
[06:48] <onlylove> 明天换工位，准备清理下工作机上的文件
[06:49] <Niac> onlylove: 说走就走 好任性
[06:49] <onlylove> Niac: 正常调动，换个地方办公而已
[06:59] <onlylove_> firefox占用430M内存，发生了什么！
[07:06] <tryit> onlylove_, 换工位后还会频繁掉线不？
[07:07] <happyaron> onlylove: 430m跟chrome比也算少的吧。。。
[07:11] <onlylove> happyaron: 我平时都200左右啊
[07:11] <onlylove> tryit: 那什么，鬼知道，大概还会，只要是共享网络
[07:12] <onlylove> tryit: 我估计是交换机能力不够
[07:12] <onlylove> 旁边的adobe测试4个人用10M专线！
[07:14] <onlylove_> 我们一群苦哈哈的和别人抢不知道几兆的共享网络，估计交换机是tplink的
[07:15] <tryit> onlylove_, 好吧，我以为是从一个公司的工位换到另外一个公司的。。。
[07:16] <onlylove_> tryit: 换公司……
[07:16] <tryit> onlylove_, :)
[07:17] <onlylove_> kvm xen vmware，明天去搞思杰，嗯，虚拟化被我玩变了，我要对外宣称是虚拟化专家
[07:19] * onlylove_ 求加薪，求跳槽
[07:24] <onlylove_> plugin container for firefox已停止工作，呵呵呵呵，果然是它
[07:27] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • 2015第五届深度操作系统开发者与用户大会，邀您参加！！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473823 大会地址 深度操作系统开发者与用户大会（Deepin Developer And User Conference，简称DAU）是由武汉深之度科技有限公司举办的开源会议，致力于分享与推动开源操作系统在
[07:35] <onlylove_> 在紫光交流中心，要不要去凑热闹
[07:44] <Router2> onlylove 比较可惜的是不会有发版
[07:45] <onlylove_> Router2: 有没有发版不重要，主要是宅久了出来活动找个借口而已，其实深度……真不好评价
[07:45] <Router2> onlylove_ 怎么不好评价法...
[08:09] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • Ubuntu15.04屏幕颜色问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473824 我使用的ubuntu版本是15.04，屏幕颜色显示感觉看着很白，就像屏幕上蒙了一层白纱一样， 每次从windows切换到ubuntu都感觉屏幕颜色差别很大，效果就和windows配置“校正颜色”的时候还没开始校正一样 查询
[08:09] <^k^> ─> 网上说是颜色配置文件的问题，但是并没有找到相应的颜色配置文件。 也不是显卡的问 …
[08:16] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • Ubuntu15.04屏幕颜色偏白问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473825 我使用的ubuntu版本是15.04，屏幕颜色显示感觉看着很白，就像屏幕上蒙了一层白纱一样， 每次从windows切换到ubuntu都感觉屏幕颜色差别很大，效果就和windows配置“校正颜色”的时候还没开始
[08:16] <ggarlic> love
[08:21] * yurakucho 困
[08:26] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 制作LIVE-UBUNTU系统的两种方法 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473830 分享个人的一点经验. 两个方法： 第一个方法，使用现成软件叫 UCloner 。 下载后解压到主目录直接使用。 我验证在UBUNTU 1510上依然可以使用图形界面。 只需要解决一下依赖 Code: sudo apt-get insta
[08:26] <^k^> ─> ll python-gtk2 zenity python-vte sudo apt-get install python-glade2 第二个方法 使用mksquashfs命令。需要 …
[08:32] <hsner> 有人吗
[08:32] <ubrl> hsner:点点点. 16:35
[08:36] <gebjgd> hsner, 你猜
[08:36] <angcosu> 还有那些频道啊
[08:37] <hsner> gebjgd, 我猜没人
[08:37] <gebjgd> hsner, 你猜对了
用irc的好少啊
[08:38] <gebjgd> hsner, 用qq的更好
[08:38] <gebjgd> hsner, 用qq的更少
[08:39] <gebjgd> hsner, 只有天朝人民用qq
[08:39] <angcosu> 都用微信了
[08:39] <hsner> 天朝拥有是世界上最多的人民
[08:39] <gebjgd> hsner, 未必
[08:40] <gebjgd> hsner, 逃跑的 移民的 留学的 偷渡的
[08:40] <hsner> 反正我身边没有用irc的
[08:44] <hsner> 我刚将binder那套东西移植到linux4.2上了 这个有意义吗
[08:45] <nyfair> 老司机们，7zip那种类似windows atl的interface，在linux上怎么调用啊？
[08:45] <nyfair> windows上我会，linux上怎么玩？
[08:47] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • HP服务器 安装14.04 驱动加载的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473831 HP服务器 安装14.04 驱动加载的问题 有人懂吗。 zz: yuandeyuan — 2015-11-12 16:39
[08:51] <onlylove1> 又见傻逼帖子，HP服务器那么多型号，连型号都不提供，就问有人懂不懂
[08:52] <nyfair> onlylove1: 少看论坛啊，无聊的人太多
[08:53] <onlylove1> nyfair: 所以我建议踢掉KK
[08:53] <nyfair> onlylove1: 我一般看红头阿三不爽的时候会上c记论坛找个帖子骂
[09:07] <yunfan> nyfair: 你这钩子
[09:17] <nyfair> work, work never changes
[09:38] <onlylove1> 这年头，站队问题都能被用来洗脑，什么多做一点，多帮领导做一点，站好队，领导就提拔，领导让你做额外的事，你不做，就是站错队，就丢工作，这种事情，居然……呵呵
[09:38] <onlylove1> 我司买这种课程，是不是有病
[09:39] <onlylove1> 还TM如何自发的工作
[09:39] <onlylove1> 你做了别人的工作，那叫越权！
[09:43] <nyfair> onlylove1: 壕，我们合伙创业吧
[09:43] <nyfair> onlylove1: 不做小黄油
[09:43] <nyfair> yunfan: 来不来
[09:45] <onlylove1> nyfair: 我不是壕啊，你要做啥啊，貌似我们需要一个产品
[09:50] <onlylove1> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46144
[09:50] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 微软允许用户将数据储存在德国
[10:06] <onlylove1> 收拾电脑，准备清理下文件了
[10:07] <superxing> gang gang bu xiao xing ba zhuo mian zha le
[10:07] <alvin_rxg> superxing: [自動] *警告* Pinyin bu shi keyi yuedu de yuyan *_{A|p{h*！請配置好您的輸入法 或者使用 http://www.inputking.com/ 謝謝！
[10:09] <superxing> 刚刚不小心把桌面炸了
[10:11] <superxing> 删一个软件的时候用了个通配符，居然把大部分系统软件干掉了
[10:15] <CyrusYzGTt> 赞
[10:16] <superxing> ....
[10:16] <superxing> 昨天刚折腾好的系统，今天就炸了
[10:18] <onlylove_> 虚拟机清理掉了……
[10:19] <onlylove_> 明天搬家……
[10:20] <onlylove_> 下班
[10:20] <superxing> ...
[10:22] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[11:00] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 喜欢养宠物?养狗不如养蚊子 : 养狗要买狗粮；养蚊子只要卷起裤脚就行。
[11:15] <hsner> 哈哈哈哈 太逗了
[11:21] <Freebuilder> 哈哈
[12:23] <^k^> 新 软件推荐 • smplayer with mpv http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473832 http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/mpv.php mpv修复了mplayer的许多bug，例如播放url 暂停以后不重新连接的问题 需要首先更新smplayer为最新版本，然后设置使用mpv 推荐大家使用 zz: widon1104 — 2015-11-12 20:23
[12:25] <^k^> 新 虚拟机和虚拟化 • [求助]VirtualBox 5.0在ubuntu下安装失败 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473833 ubuntu 14. 直接apt-get的错误提示(已经按照官网的操作步骤 https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads )： ? ~ sudo apt-get install -f virtualbox-5.0 正在读取软件包列表... 完成 正在分析软件包的依赖关
[14:05] <longlongago> happyaron: 牛牛如果把udp的包发到tcp的tunnel里会怎样呀？
[14:06] <longlongago> happyaron: 比如用ss-redir开了个tunnel,本地端口是7070,然后用iptables把udp 53端口的包发到7070里会怎么样
[14:06] <Bluek404> 被丢掉
[14:07] <longlongago> Bluek404: 哦
[14:08] <longlongago> Bluek404: 那你用过别的什么工具解决dns问题吗
[14:08] <longlongago> chinadns dnsmasq ss-tunnel
[14:09] <longlongago> bind9 unbound dnssec什么的
[14:09] <longlongago> kandu: 牛牛
[14:09] <longlongago> kandu: 你用ss-tunnel吗
[14:11] <Bluek404> 啥的dns？
[14:11] <Bluek404> socks5支持远端域名解析啊
[14:12] <longlongago> Bluek404: 怎么用远端解析？
[14:13] <Bluek404> 你是部署在哪的？
[14:13] <Bluek404> 路由器级别的话没辙
[14:13] <longlongago> Bluek404: openwrt 路由器
[14:13] <kandu> longlongago: socks5 可以在请求时发送 ipv4/ipv6/domain name, 发 domain name 就是远程 dns 解析
[14:13] <Bluek404> 路由器有很多现成的方法
[14:13] <Bluek404> google吧
[14:13] <kandu> longlongago: ss-tunnel 是什么？。。
[14:14] <longlongago> kandu: shadowsocks-libev的可以转发udp的工具
[14:14] <kandu> longlongago: 哦，就是加密下的 socks5
[14:14] <kandu> longlongago: 我用的是自己做的 socks5 代理。
[14:14] <longlongago> kandu: 这个socks5使用怎么搞呢
[14:15] <kandu> longlongago: 直接用就好啦。 firefox 不是有个 热模特
[14:15] <kandu> longlongago: remote dns socks 选项..
[14:15] <longlongago> kandu: 域名解析，难道让我设dns为127.0.0.1然后开个软件把dns包抓出来然后发到服务器去解析？
[14:15] <kandu> longlongago: socks5 自带
[14:16] <longlongago> kandu: 我要全局解析，不只firefox用， IE也想用
[14:16] <longlongago> kandu: 在路由器上开个全局tcp和udp转发，然后接入路由器的设备就不用配置直接翻出去了
[14:17] <longlongago> kandu: 现在tcp转发没问题，卡dns这了
[14:18] <longlongago> Bluek404: 牛牛，你路由器上怎么解决dns问题的 ？
[14:18] <longlongago> 有的用dnsmasq或chinadns
[14:18] <Bluek404> 根本没用路由器翻
[14:19] <Bluek404> 都是客户端配置的
[14:19] <kandu> longlongago: socks5 本来就没给全局代理做设计，全局转 dns, 它自己是没这个功能的
[14:20] <Bluek404> dns的话，其实也就影响一下cdn
[14:20] <longlongago> Bluek404: 比如某天想玩日服游戏了，想用IE看youtube了，怎么办
[14:20] <Bluek404> 如果不考虑cdn，直接按照ip代理就行
[14:20] <Bluek404> dns污染的话
[14:20] <Bluek404> 解决方法有很多，直接搜就行
[14:20] <longlongago> 关键字
[14:21] <longlongago> kandu: 它是没有，但是貌似可以用iptables拦截转发呀，只要能开个tunnel什么的
[14:23] <longlongago> kandu: 牛牛，你有自己做的让dns走socks5的工具吗？ 发个看看
[14:23] <kandu> longlongago: 咦，你说的好有道理。刚我好傻
[14:24] <longlongago> kandu: 牛牛，别这样呀，我比较笨
[14:24] <longlongago> kandu: 比如用IE看youtube什么的，就得解决dns污染问题
[14:25] <kandu> longlongago: https://bitbucket.org/zandoye/socks5 还有这个没公开的 http://machinelife.org/osc/ds5.png
[14:25] <ubrl> ⇪ f: zandoye / socks5 — Bitbucket
[14:26] <longlongago> vpn ssh经常断，新出的surge什么的是给ios用的，shadowsocks又已死，唉
[14:30] <longlongago> kandu: 这个能解决dns问题？
[14:31] <kandu> longlongago: 不是全局解决
[14:31] <Bluek404> ss死了？换个加密方法呢
[14:31] <longlongago> kandu: 还有这个不会被放置sniffer吗? 好像是这个名字
[14:32] <longlongago> 会搞一些免费的代理然后抓用户数据吗？
[14:33] <longlongago> Bluek404: kandu https://github.com/isayme/xdns
[14:33] <ubrl> ⇪ f: isayme/xdns · GitHub
[14:33] <longlongago> 我看这个貌似不错
[14:33] <longlongago> 我小白，欢迎给见解
[14:36] <Bluek404> 一般就没问题
[14:37] <longlongago> 好了，我去睡觉了，晚安，牛牛
[14:38] <kandu> longlongago: 如果要 dns 过 socks5 代理。则必须弄一个支持 socks5 代理的 dns resolver 或者包上 proxychains 才行(据我所知 proxychains udp 转发，所以木用)。所以光有 iptable, socks5 没用
[14:38] <kandu> 若没记错 proxychains 不支持 udp 转发
[14:42] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[23:55] <^k^> 新 Shell脚本 • 求助：如何批量修改文件夹及文件夹下文件的名字 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473835 假如我有一个文件夹，文件夹下面有一些文件，如下所示： Gideon/gideon_lisha/Gideon_samuel/Gideon_nathan.xml 我当前是在根目录Gideon的文件夹，我想写一段shell代码，这个文件夹及文件
[23:55] <^k^> ─> 夹下的所有 Gideon 更换成 Liang，我要的结果如下： Liang/Liang_lisha/Liang_samuel/Liang_nathan.xml 我 …
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[04:37] <bzoltan_> mcphail: Not sure if I told you that you need to delete and recreate your chroots. Or even better ... install the static chroot packages.
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[07:49] <Mirv> if I get ":-1: error: security:policy_groups_safe:test-xmlhttprequest:debug: (REJECT) reserved policy group 'debug': not for production use" every time I try to run a just created QML Cmake project in the SDK, what should I do instead of just clicking "Yes" to ignore every time?
[07:49] <Mirv> (I wonder if the answer is "install the new Ubuntu SDK IDE")
[08:36] <Mirv> zbenjamin: on 16.04 archive QtC I get "no executable specified" if I create a new simple QML CMake app and try to run it. if I create a Simple QML Qmake app I get "No rule to make target 'testproject.qrc', needed by 'qrc_testproject.cpp'. Stop."
[08:36] <Mirv> with desktop target
[08:41] <Mirv> well, just using from command line for my tests
[08:43] <mcphail> bzoltan_: I have deleted all my chroots from the new IDE, and have run "schroot -e --all-session" in the terminal, then created a new 15.04 chroot and new qml project. Same problem. I think the problem is either (1) I am doing it wrong or (2) the qmake template is faulty
[08:43] <zbenjamin> Mirv: let me try that
[08:44] <zbenjamin> Mirv: but first i need to finish the review for zsombi's gestures
[08:44] <Mirv> zbenjamin: yeah, no hurry, just an observation
[08:47] <bzoltan_> mcphail: would you mind to pastebin the exact output? plus the apt-cache policy click ubuntu-sdk-ide
[08:47] <mcphail> bzoltan_: yep - one minute
[08:48] <mcphail> http://termbin.com/i1pe
[08:49] <mcphail> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13237049/
[08:50] <mcphail> bzoltan_: I can take you through the steps I am using before I have to leave for work...
[08:50] <bzoltan_> mcphail: The click package I am interested about.. I suspect that you have wrong click and so wrong chroot
[08:51] <mcphail> http://termbin.com/fm7l
[08:52] <zbenjamin> mcphail: how did you delete the chroots?
[08:52] <mcphail> zbenjamin: through the sdk, then running schroot -e --all-session
[08:52] <zbenjamin> mcphail: also do you have the sdk ppa enabled? Also what does apt-cache policy click return
[08:53] <mcphail> zbenjamin: see my last paste - looks as if I have the stock click rather than PPA
[08:53] <zbenjamin> mcphail: where in the SDK? In tools->options->ubuntu? Or in the Kits list
[08:53] <bzoltan_> mcphail: click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 maint
[08:53] <zbenjamin> mcphail: thats the problem
[08:53] <bzoltan_> mcphail: and look for te /etc/apt/sources.lists.d/
[08:53] <zbenjamin> mcphail: the stock click creates an outdated chroot
[08:54] <mcphail> zbenjamin: bzoltan_ OK, will swap it over. Don't know why click wasn't updated when I installed the SDK PPAs
[08:54] <bzoltan_> mcphail: you need the 0.4.40+15.10.20151012-0ubuntu1
[08:54] <mcphail> bzoltan_: good - I'll try that and will recreate the chroots. Thanks!
[08:54] <bzoltan_> mcphail: you need sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:55] <mcphail> Will take a while to create a new chroot, but I'll report back later
[08:56] <mcphail> Thanks both
[13:15] <mcphail> bzoltan_: zbenjamin: updating the click package has solved my problem. Thanks for your help!
[13:16] <bzoltan_> mcphail: thank you for helping us in the release candidte validation :)
[13:16] <mcphail> bzoltan_: happy to be a guinea pig :)
[13:24] <zbenjamin> mcphail: awesome :)
[13:36] <popey> victorp, you mentioned on email the offer of assistance for DanChapman with dekko..
[13:37] <popey> victorp, I think DanChapman has a couple of specific things someone on your team may be able to help with
[13:43] <victorp> popey, I was specifically asking about the polld integration
[13:43] <popey> ah okay.
[13:43] <popey> will look elsewhere.
[13:44] <DanChapman> victorp: popey well it is todo with that in a way. :-) It's the online account plugin that polld will share
[13:46] <victorp> DanChapman, sure
[13:47] <victorp> DanChapman, we done a few OA plugins
[13:47] <victorp> DanChapman, do you have a specific bug/task for that , it would be useful for me to fwd to my team
[13:50] <DanChapman> victorp: i've written the majority of the plugin now which has a qt c++ plugin module. I just need help getting it merged it into lp:account-plugins which uses autotools and I have no real idea how to do it :-) I don't have a bug for it yet but I will create one now
[13:51] <victorp> DanChapman, thanks
[14:19] <DanChapman> victorp sorry for the delay. here's a bug for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/accounts-plugin-email/+bug/1515639
[14:21] <victorp> thanks
[14:21] <victorp> DanChapman, ^^
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[03:29] <dupingping> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+question/274076
[03:31] <dupingping> please help me.
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[07:38] <pitti> slangasek: yeah, I know; It's ridiculously hard to inspect AMQP queues, much harder than e. g. doing the live logtailing :/
[07:39] <pitti> slangasek: however, we could publish britney's pending.txt somewhere, which would already be a start
[07:42] <pitti> Laney: wow, now that we get mailed about the cloud errors/worker failures it's quite dazzling how many there are..
[09:14] <seb128> doko, hey, "libllvm3.7: Add Conflicts/Replaces to libllvm3.7v4 (anticipated backport)." ... what do you mean "anticipated backport"? could that go to Debian as well?
[09:33] <seb128> doko, bug #1501300 ... seems like llvm-toolchain-3.4 was built with gcc-4.9 in wily due to an issue with the debian/rules gcc version regexp, do you think fixing that/building with gcc5 is the sort of change that is fine for a SRU?
[09:35] <seb128> same for bug #1511128
[09:44] <Laney> pitti: yeah... what's up with the ssh timeout ones? just the instances failing to come up properly?
[09:59] <pitti> Laney: seems they all come from vivid systemd's fsck test
[10:00] <pitti> Laney: it timed out, it got handed to another worker, and then killed that as well
[10:00] <pitti> Laney: I guess the possibility of chain-killing workers is now a consequence of not giving up on tmpfails
[10:00] <pitti> but I'd rather have it this way, this happens much less (systemd/vivid/ppc64el is the only known case to me)
[10:01] <pitti> Laney: the others were quota ceiling again
[10:02] <pitti> Laney: wrt. http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/status/alerts/ -- I retried mpfit (RT to delete the two undeletable nova instances got processed and done)
[10:03] <pitti> Laney: systemd/network-manager are these chain-killers, to be investigated
[10:03] <pitti> Laney: apw and I found the reason for the linux/ppc64el test dep uninstallability, but there's still a bug somewhere in my code because it re-tries twice and then fails on the already removed apt pin file
[10:03] <pitti> so TL;DR: I'm on them, please don't retry those
[10:04] <Laney> okay, thanks for being on top of them!
[10:05] <pitti> Laney: I'm now looking into converting these pesky "Temporary failure resolving 'ftpmaster.internal'
[10:05] <pitti> Laney: ... to tmpfail, so that they will auto-retry
[10:05] <pitti> instead of having to be retried manually
[10:06] <Laney> is that fatal or can adt itself be retried?
[10:06] <Laney> i.e. do you have to kill the instance when that happens?
[10:06] <pitti> Laney: you mean apt?
[10:06] <Laney> well I presume it makes adt-run fail
[10:06] <pitti> we already retry apt-get update
[10:06] <Laney> can you try it again?
[10:06] <pitti> we might try to re-run apt-get install too
[10:07] <pitti> Laney: if adt-run exits with a failure, the container is gone, so we have to start over, yes
[10:07] <pitti> (but I don't see that as a big problem)
[10:07] <pitti> retrying apt-get install itself is a bit more elegant, though
[10:08] <pitti> in both cases I simultaneously need to capture apt's output to check for the error message but also have it go to stdout/err for the log
[10:08] <pitti> so I might just as well do it locally in the apt-get call
[10:09] <pitti> apt-get --quiet update || (sleep 15; apt-get update)) 2>&1
[10:09] <pitti> we already do that trick for update, which commonly fail with hash sum mismatches
[10:13] <pitti> hm, but if the outages last longer than a few seconds, then the test can't do much about it by itself
[10:15] <pitti> mvo: apt-get always exits with 100 on errors? is there a way to tell apart errors on downloading/fetching stuff from uninstallability or postinst errors?
[10:16] <pitti> mvo: apart from checking the output, I mean
[10:16] <pitti> mvo: or maybe some extra "side channel" where it outputs such errors in addition, so that I can leave normal stdout/stderr in place?
[10:16] <pitti> mvo: like dpkg's --status-fd
[10:19] * pitti discovers README.progress-reporting in the source and APT::Status-Fd
[10:22] <pitti> err, the status-fd messages are translated
[10:23] <apw> heh just what you need
[10:24] <pitti> -o APT::Status-Fd=2 works
[10:24] <pitti> but this doesn't, /tmp/out is empty; sudo apt-get install -o APT::Status-Fd=2 pmount 3>/tmp/out
[10:25] <pitti> err, APT::Status-Fd=3 of course
[10:25] <pitti> apparently my redirection fu isn't strong enough
[10:25] <apw> pitti, some LANG=C foo tooo to make sure its parable
[10:25] <apw> *parsable
[10:25] <pitti> oh, sudo, hang on
[10:26] <pitti> yep, works without sudo and in a root shell, sorry for the noise; so indeed weak redir fu :)
[10:28] <pitti> mvo: so, found it, unping
[10:30] <pitti> so I think if the file contains ^dlstatus: but does not contain ^pmstatus:, I can assume downlaod failed and it's worth trying again
[10:31] <pitti> with sleeping 10 s in between, and give up with tmpfail after the third failure
[10:41] <ara> hello all,
[10:41] <ara> I have a general question about contributing to Ubuntu through bzr branches
[10:42] <mvo> pitti: hi, what exactly is the problem you need to solve? I guess I can look into giving you different exit codes for certain failures
[10:42] <ara> Currently, there is no xenial branch for partman efi: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-efi
[10:42] <ara> can we expect that branch to exist at some point? how/when that happens?
[10:42] <pitti> mvo: we have a lot of failures like https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/armhf/x/xen-tools/20151111_234936@/log.gz
[10:43] <pitti> mvo: so if a package fails to install due to postinst bugs, bad dependencies etc., I want the test to fail
[10:43] <pitti> mvo: but if it fails to download, or these DNS errors, I want to retry or make it a temporary testbed failure insted of a test failure
[10:43] <pitti> mvo: but APT::Status-Fd=3 actually works well enough
[10:44] * pitti checks if that's available in precise
[10:44] <mvo> pitti: ok, so a different exit code for download failures? that sounds not too terrible, let me check
[10:44] <pitti> mvo: well, I need something that works on all releases; so it might be nice for the future as these retry loops become much simpler
[10:44] <mvo> pitti: aha, ok. if status-fd is good enough, sure. it should be in precise, its availalbe since a long time (~2007ish I would say)
[10:45] <pitti> yep, works in precise
[10:45] <pitti> so, that's good, thanks!
[10:45] <mvo> yw
[10:49] <pitti> mvo: so I guess I'll use "apt-get install -o APT::Status-Fd=3 ... 3>&2 2>&1" and capture stderr
[10:52] <caribou> hmm, looks like my upgrade to Xenial was not a success : lost sound, external display, USB keyboard & I don't get a prompt upon boot for my encryption password
[10:53] <ara> hey dholbach, can I ask you a question related to contributing to Ubuntu through bzr branches?
[10:53] <pitti> caribou: wow -- was it interrupted in the middle or so?
[10:53] <pitti> caribou: the worst that I can say is that gedit now looks strange, so it's not generally broken for everyone
[10:54] <dholbach> ara, sure
[10:54] <caribou> pitti: no nothing to report
[10:55] <ara> dholbach, Currently, there is no xenial branch for partman efi: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-efi
[10:55] <ara> can we expect that branch to exist at some point? how/when that happens?
[10:55] <caribou> pitti: I'm going to reboot with a clean syslog & I'll be back
[10:57] <dholbach> ara, no idea - let me ask somebody
[10:57] <dholbach> pitti, cjwatson (or anyone else): do you know why there's no xenial branch for https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-efi yet? (ara just asked.)
[10:58] <pitti> I don't know, sorry; I don't know whether anybody still maintains the UDD branches in LP, but it seemed pretty dead to me
[10:58] <pitti> to be blunt, they've been a mis-design right from the start, and a lot of imports tend to be behind; I thought there was a new plan to have something like dgit
[10:59] <dholbach> pitti, so you'd recommend to just send a patch?
[10:59] <pitti> dholbach: personally, yes (I know other sponsors actually like the UDD branches, so don't consider that a "project opinion")
[10:59] <pitti> personally, a debdiff to a sponsoring bug is ten times faster and simpler than wrestling with the UDD patch maze
[11:00] <dholbach> ok
[11:00] <pitti> and no sponsor I know of dares to actually push these branches
[11:00] <dholbach> ara, ^ does that help?
[11:00] <ara> yes, it does
[11:00] <ara> dholbach, the packaging guide still says that UDD is the way to go :)
[11:01] <ara> dholbach, pitti: thanks!
[11:01] <pitti> ara: the other option is to work on the Debian git, but we have a delta, so this mostly just makes sense for more convenient development if you want to use git diff, stashing, etc.
[11:01] <pitti> and then attach the git format-patch to the bug
[11:03] <dholbach> ara, I guess it needs a bit of a broader discussion - but yeah, I agree
[11:07] <Laney> dholbach: have the candidates for CC written any kind of platform?
[11:07] <Laney> I don't know how to choose between most of them tbh
[11:09] <cjwatson> dholbach: right, more or less as pitti says. We haven't brought them up yet, and conceivably, we might be close enough to being able to have dgit working that it might not be worth the effort. And the auto-import branches have been so badly broken in so many ways for so long ...
[11:09] <dholbach> some might have something up on their website, but as we were a bit late already, I didn't want to go through another round of "please write something and send a link back" before we announce
[11:09] <dholbach> cjwatson, cool - thanks!
[11:09] <cjwatson> ara: I have been complaining about that in the packaging guide for years :P
[11:10] <ara> cjwatson, :)
[11:10] <cjwatson> nothing ever happens because rah rah revision control (even if it's horribly broken)
[11:11] <dholbach> ok... let's have a discussion about it and change it
[11:11] <dholbach> I'm not sure if I'm seen as blocking this... because I'm happy for it to be changed
[11:13] <caribou> pitti: systemd complains about some apparmor issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13237626/
[11:33] <pitti> caribou: ah, I get that too
[11:33] <pitti> sudo systemctl status apparmor -l
[11:33] <pitti> Nov 12 08:34:00 donald apparmor[476]: AppArmor-Analysefehler f?r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.webbrowser-app in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.webbrowser-app in Zeile 26: >>/usr/share/apparmor/hardware/graphics.d<< konnte nicht ge?ffnet werden
[11:33] <pitti> so apparently an error in webbrowser-app's apparmor profile
[11:33] <pitti> but that should be moderately harmless
[11:33] <pitti> why do I have webbrowser-app installed in the first place..
[11:40] <seb128> pitti, we install it by default (should be cleaned out but we noticed that just before xenial and it was too late for such changes)
[11:41] <pitti> seb128: s/xenial/wily/ I suppose
[11:41] <seb128> yes
[11:42] <seb128> it's used by webapps but we don't install any by default so we don't need it on the iso
[11:44] <caribou> pitti: I found my problem
[11:44] <caribou> pitti: linux-image-extra for .18 is missing in the Xenial archive
[11:44] <caribou> pitti: apw is looking into it
[11:45] <pitti> caribou: oh indeed; I still have -16 installed
[11:45] <caribou> pitti: I also had .17 so going back to that one fixes my usb/sound/external display problem
[11:45] <pitti> caribou: .17 is in -proposed still
[11:46] <pitti> never ever (and I mean EVER) enable devel-proposed on a real machine
[11:46] <pitti> devel-proposed by definition are all packages which are broken
[11:46] <caribou> pitti: I don't have it enabled.
[11:46] <caribou> pitti: apparently it is a miss from a CVE upload
[11:46] <pitti> caribou: oh, wily now has a newer kernel than xenial? nice..
[11:47] <caribou> pitti: no, xenial has linux-image-4.2.0.18-generic but it is missing linux-image-EXTRA-4.2.0.18-generic
[11:47] <pitti> caribou: ok, so missing -extra does explain missing sound, graphics, and stuff
[11:47] <caribou> pitti: yes
[11:48] <caribou> pitti: thanks for diwic for nailing it down
[11:48] <caribou> ok, rebooting to see if I get my password prompt
[11:48] <diwic> yw
[11:48] <pitti> hm, so wily-updates has 4.2.0-18.22, xenial has 4.2.0-16.19 , xenial-proposed has 4.2.0-17.21
[11:49] <pitti> caribou: that explains why I didn't see that, as I dist-upgraded to xenial right away, before I got wily-updates bits
[11:49] <pitti> diwic, caribou: thanks for tracking it down!
[11:49] <caribou> pitti: well, that's the reason for running/upgrading to Xenial isn't it ?
[11:50] <pitti> caribou: well, usually I'd expect the breakage to be in the devel series, not in the stable series
[11:50] <pitti> in devel it would be "meh", but devel is fine
[11:50] <pitti> it seems we completely screwed wily with that
[11:51] <pitti> and that's in the "disaster" category
[11:51] <pitti> caribou: or did I misunderstand this somehow? did you have -18 extras in wily, but it somehow got lost on the xenial update?
[11:52] <pitti> linux-image-extra-4.2.0-18-generic | 4.2.0-18.22 | wily-security | amd64, i386, ppc64el
[11:52] <pitti> ah no, *phew*
[11:53] <pitti> caribou: so your -18 kernel got partially removed during the upgrade then?
[11:53] <apw> pitti, the tl;dr was that the install of -18 was manual and not done completly, so all is understod and we're fine
[11:53] <pitti> apw: ok, good
[11:53] <apw> pitti, he wanted -18, but was on xenail where it did not exist
[11:53] <caribou> pitti: no, dist-upgrade was complaining it couldn't find it in the archive so I went back to wily and manually installed _only_ the linux-image
[11:54] <apw> pitti, and i've requested that be copied up to close this hole
[11:54] <caribou> pitti: then dist-ugprade
[12:07] <pitti> Laney, mvo: this works nicely: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git/commit/?id=609c99
[12:07] <pitti> Laney: and the .bomb() instead of .badpkg() will make it a tmpfail instead of a test fail, so hopefully these shoudl be gone
[12:08] * pitti runs a mass-retry to mop up the current failures
[12:08] <pitti> I'm sure that we now find some tests which are genuinely broken but trigger this :)
[12:09] <mvo> pitti: heh :)
[12:37] <seb128> Laney, did you get a reply from dholbach earlier about the community council eventual programs? (didn't see you but there were cross discussions)
[12:38] <Laney> seb128: "eventual programs"? nothing further no
[12:38] <Laney> but I don't know what one of those is. :P
[12:38] <seb128> sorry, I guess franglish
[12:38] <Laney> platform is the thing I asked for
[12:39] <seb128> you asked if candidates eventually had a platform
[12:39] <Laney> don't think there is any central list of them
[12:39] <seb128> k
[12:39] <seb128> we use "programme" for "platform" in french
[12:39] <Laney> ah
[12:39] <seb128> I though "program" would work in this context in english
[12:39] <seb128> sorry ;-)
[12:40] <Laney> no worries
[12:40] <seb128> like "having an agenda"
[12:41] <cjwatson> It kind of works but wouldn't be the usual term
[12:42] <seb128> I see
[12:42] <dholbach> seb128, Laney: sorry - maybe I should have been clearer earlier.... we were a bit late with the election and I wanted to get it announced as opposed to mailing everyone again, asking for a platform to be written, pages updated, etc
[12:43] <seb128> dholbach, no worry, but does it mean it's likely that some people will write something?
[12:43] <seb128> or said differently is waiting likely to provide more details to make an informed choice?
[12:44] <dholbach> seb128, I haven't pinged people yet, but I could do that - and send a mail with links to their wiki page in an update?
[12:44] <seb128> dholbach, that would be nice
[12:45] <dholbach> ok.......
[12:47] <seb128> dholbach, don't feel like you have to do it, I was just asking in case because I don't know some of the candidates, but I opened their launchpad page which already gives some kind of idea
[12:57] <dholbach> seb128, I would... but the wiki doesn't let me :-P
[12:57] <seb128> heh
[13:47] <Laney> doko: you here? can you take a look at phonon-backend-vlc maybe?
[13:48] <Laney> (build failure, -fPIC stuff, I can't get it to build)
[13:50] <jdstrand> pitti: the webbroswer-app bug is known. oSoMoN is working on it
[13:51] <jdstrand> bug #1511439
[13:56] <pitti> jdstrand: thanks
[13:57] <jdstrand> pitti: do you need more for migration or is that enough?
[13:57] <jdstrand> s/more/more info/
[13:57] <pitti> jdstrand: oh, I was looking at that in the context of caribou's upgrade b0rkage, not proposed-migration
[14:00] <jdstrand> pitti: ah. well, in either case, you can install apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu on the system or disable the profile with aa-disable
[14:01] <jdstrand> and that should fix things. oSoMoN's fix will (obviously) also fix it, but it hasn't landed yet
[14:01] <pitti> jdstrand: TBH I just purged webbrowser-app; seb128 said it's going away from the default install anyway, and I have no need for it
[14:01] <jdstrand> pitti: heh, that is another option :)
[14:03] <jdstrand> pitti: ok, looking at proposed migration, the regression has nothing to do with apparmor: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/amd64/s/systemd/20151112_015036@/log.gz
[14:03] <jdstrand> FAIL: test_hotplug_dhcp_ip6 (__main__.TestNetworkd)
[14:03] <pitti> jdstrand: no, that's a race condition in the networkd test, I'm aware of it
[14:03] <jdstrand> AssertionError: nameserver 192.168.5.1 not found in /etc/resolv.conf
[14:03] <jdstrand> ok
[14:03] <pitti> (either in the test, or in the resolvconf integration, not sure yet)
[14:04] <jdstrand> pitti: does that mean you'll handle the proposed migration for apparmor then?
[14:04] <pitti> jdstrand: yes, will do
[14:04] <jdstrand> pitti: thanks! :)
[14:06] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, pitti: my fix for webbrowser-app is awaiting QA verification, will hopefully land soon
[14:12] <pitti> doko: asking you because TIL: puppetmaster-passenger started to become uninstallable because it depends on the removed libapache2-mod-passenger; do you have any idea about that, or is that server team matter?
[14:13] <pitti> ah, this was fixed in Debian
[14:13] <pitti> so, merge o'clock
[14:14] <pitti> doko: I can do the merge if you don't care, but would like to ask you first
[14:25] <yofel> Laney: do you plan to merge lintian anytime soon?
[14:25] <yofel> with debhelper updated all libraries in the kubuntu ci throw lintian errors about missing ldconfig calls. So if you don't plan to merge it soon I would give it a try.
[14:35] <popey> Anyone else had apport just sit there chewing a cpu for _ages_ on xenial?
[14:35] <popey> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
[14:35] <popey> 5386 root 20 0 164460 82176 8768 R 100.0 0.5 124:53.76 apport
[14:36] <popey> ahh, it's dealing with a caja crash, will poke flexiondotorg :)
[14:36] <pitti> popey: is it actually writing a .crash file in /var/crash and is the crashed process still existing (in 'D' state)? or is it trapped in a post-crash loop?
[14:36] <popey> nothing in /var/crash
[14:36] <popey> was just sat there in a loop
[14:37] <popey> alan 27679 0.0 0.3 1211948 62316 ? Sl Nov10 0:07 caja
[14:37] <popey> thats the process it was dealing with
[14:38] <pitti> popey: can you show me the tail of /var/log/apport.log? This caja process didn't even crash
[14:39] <popey> -rw-r----- 1 root adm 0 Nov 11 07:39 /var/log/apport.log
[14:39] <popey> :(
[14:39] <popey> its a days old process, maybe an older apport log...
[14:39] <ogra_> definitely a short tail
[14:40] <pitti> popey: what's the full command line of that apport process?
[14:40] <popey> root 5386 99.8 0.5 164740 85876 ? R 12:29 125:47 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/share/apport/apport 27679 11 0 27679
[14:40] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13238745/ is the previous apport log
[14:40] <pitti> "another apport instance is already running, aborting", ah
[14:41] <pitti> this makes no sense at all
[14:41] <pitti> so caja crashed with SEGV (signal 11), the kernel called apport, but the process is still alive; it should go into 'D' and then die after core dumping
[14:42] <pitti> popey: can you attach strace to apport for a bit and see what it's looping on?
[14:42] <popey> I'd already killed it, sorry :(
[14:42] * pitti wonders if it's continuously reading some junk from the kernel as core dump data
[14:42] <pitti> ok
[14:42] <popey> It may happen again, I have seen this before
[14:42] <popey> and if it does, I'll trace it
[15:06] <Laney> yofel: I'll get to all my merges soon, been a bit busy shepherding some transitions
[15:12] <yofel> Laney: ok, then I'll leave it to you as I would need a sponsor for it.
[15:12] <yofel> thanks
[15:42] <rbasak> tdaitx: how is the squid3 merge going?
[15:42] <rbasak> tdaitx: no hurry, just checking it's not stuck.
[15:43] <tdaitx> rbasak, hi there! well, it is stuck, but just because we didn't have time to work on it during the sprint =)
[15:43] <rbasak> tdaitx: OK, no problem.
[16:00] <doko> pitti, puppet is now demoted
[16:12] <pitti> doko: i. e. does that translate to "I don't care, go ahead and merge", or something else? :-)
[16:14] <rbasak> doko: I wasn't aware of any plan around puppet. Is that intended to be permanent?
[16:18] <doko> pitti, the former ;p
[16:19] <pitti> doko: ok :) I'll do that then to fix that again
[16:24] <rbasak> doko: I wasn't aware of any plan around puppet. Is that intended to be permanent?
[16:25] <smoser> doko, can you give some background on that ? i think that i've seen something around it, but dont remember the details.
[16:25] <infinity> Whatever was pulling it into main must have stopped...
[16:25] <rbasak> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/platform.xenial/revision/2008
[16:26] <infinity> Ahh.
[16:26] <infinity> doko: Yeah, why was that done? :P
[16:27] <infinity> doko: supported != shipped, so that has no effect on images.
[16:29] <smoser> hey. i need to fix http://pad.lv/1515661
[16:30] <smoser> the easiest thing to do would be to take the trusty-updates version and get it to precise.
[16:30] <smoser> trusty-updates is 0.25ubuntu1.14.04.1
[16:30] <doko> rbasak, infinity: puppet was only needed by IS, and isn't anymore. I didn't get any reply from the server team that it is still needed.
[16:30] <rbasak> doko: I wasn't aware that you asked. Where did you ask?
[16:30] <rbasak> doko: I'd prefer us to make a considered decision on whether we want it in main rather than have it ripped out from under us.
[16:33] <doko> rbasak, nothing is permanent until the release is done
[16:33] <rbasak> doko: I wasn't aware that you asked. Where did you ask?
[16:33] <doko> rbasak, by email
[16:33] <rbasak> To whom?
[16:36] <seb128> doko, hey, did you see my llvm/SRU question this morning?
[16:38] <doko> seb128, yes, but I didn't look at it yet. the issue is that backported llvm 3.7 packages need a different library package name when built with GCC 4.9 or earlier
[16:39] <seb128> doko, speaking of gcc, apparently the wily packages are built with 4.9 instead of 5 due to an issue with the debian/rules regexp issue, unsure if changing the gcc version is material for a SRU?
[16:39] <tdaitx> slangasek, when configuring my system to work on a high dpi display I noticed that console-setup, console-setup-linux, and keyboard-configuration have upstart scripts, but only keyboard-configuration has a systemd service, thus the font I selected on console-setup is never applied on boot time (there are open bugs for that)
[16:39] <tdaitx> is that the expected behavior or somtehing that needs fixing?
[16:40] <doko> seb128, afaics, it's not yet used, so maybe nobody cares (and somebody should address the ftbfs on i386 and powerpc)
[16:41] <seb128> doko, there is a bug reported so I guess some people care
[16:41] <seb128> and ack on the build issues
[16:47] <tdaitx> slangasek, apart from that, I find it a bit weird that keyboard-configuration init/systemd service is named console-setup and its initram hook also handles font and depends on stuff setup by setupcon (setupcon is from console-setup, which actually depends on keyboard-configuration, not the other way around)
[16:49] <slangasek> Mirv: do you have any clues about this x86-only build failure in phonon-backend-vlc? it looks like something internal to cmake+qt5 rather than a bug in phonon-backend-vlc's code:
[16:49] <slangasek> In file included from /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtCore/QtGlobal:1:0,
[16:49] <slangasek> from /«PKGBUILDDIR»/obj-qt5/CMakeTmp/check_qt_visibility.cpp:1:
[16:49] <slangasek> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtCore/qglobal.h:1052:4: error: #error "You must build your code with position independent code if Qt was built with -reduce-relocations. " "Compile your code with -fPIC (-fPIE is not enough)."
[16:49] <slangasek> # error "You must build your code with position independent code if Qt was built with -reduce-relocations. "\
[16:49] <slangasek> tdaitx: console-setup/keyboard-configuration have a very long history, and it's possible the current state includes some historical reasons. And if the configured console-setup font is not applied at boot, yes, that's a bug and quite possibly related to this
[16:50] <slangasek> tdaitx: cyphermox would have some recent context about console-setup; pitti might know a thing or two about how systemd expects to set console fonts
[16:50] <doko> slangasek, this popped up a lot during the last cycle. iirc, the "solution" was to remove -fPIE and add -fPIC.
[16:51] <doko> sbeattie, ^^^
[16:51] <slangasek> doko: well, but this package isn't passing -fPIE
[16:52] <doko> but -fPIC?
[16:52] <slangasek> doko: no - I mean that -fPIE is being passed but not by this package
[16:52] <slangasek> maybe it comes from /usr/share/phonon4qt5/buildsystem/FindPhononInternal.cmake
[16:54] <Odd_Bloke> Is there an email from gaughen_ sitting in the ubuntu-devel@ moderation queue?
[16:54] <slangasek> there's a KDE4_ENABLE_FPIE
[16:54] <Odd_Bloke> (And if so, who can unblock it?)
[16:55] <slangasek> Odd_Bloke: I think cjwatson has moderation privs there; not sure who else might
[16:55] <Laney> me, nothing there
[16:57] <Laney> Odd_Bloke: ^
[16:58] <gaughen_> Laney, sweet, thanks!
[16:59] <nemo> FWIW, I finally solved the problem that I came by here to figure out:
[16:59] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-view-client/+bug/1268770/comments/1
[16:59] <nemo> all better
[16:59] <nemo> 'course, IMO there's a couple of broken packages there, but whatev ☺
[16:59] <nemo> works for me! 😝
[17:02] <doko> $ simple-scan
[17:02] <doko> simple-scan: error while loading shared libraries: libpackagekit-glib2.so.16: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:03] <doko> seb128, ^^^ can you reproduce this? or was this something part of wily-proposed which didn't go into the release?
[17:04] <seb128> doko,
[17:04] <seb128> $ dpkg -S libpackagekit-glib2.so.16
[17:04] <seb128> libpackagekit-glib2-16:i386: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpackagekit-glib2.so.16
[17:04] <seb128> do you have that package?
[17:05] <doko> $ dpkg -S libpackagekit-glib2.so.18
[17:05] <doko> libpackagekit-glib2-16:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpackagekit-glib2.so.18
[17:05] <doko> libpackagekit-glib2-16:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpackagekit-glib2.so.18.0.0
[17:05] <doko> so, maybe left over from using -proposed during the GCC 5 transition
[17:07] <seb128> doko, yes, that version of packagekit was in proposed only and breaking aptdaemon and never migrated/was removed
[17:07] <doko> ahh, I remember ...
[17:07] <seb128> but the binary should depends on the lib it uses
[17:07] <slangasek> how does anyone debug cmake, ever?
[17:07] <seb128> so looks like there is a bug
[17:08] <Laney> slangasek: I just pinged mitya57 about this and he said he'd look, FYi
[17:08] <Laney> I
[17:08] <Laney> as a more qualified cmaker than me
[17:08] <slangasek> Laney: alright; my question stands
[17:08] <slangasek> this is untraceable spaghetti
[17:09] <slangasek> check_cxx_compiler_flag(-fPIE HAVE_FPIE_SUPPORT)
[17:09] <slangasek> so OBVIOUSLY that causes all tests to immediately start using that flag
[17:10] <mitya57> I don't understand why this bug doesn't happen in Debian
[17:10] <mitya57> In simple case one just needs to add something like set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "-fPIC") and that will work. But looks like it's a bit more complicate here.
[17:11] * mitya57 is not a CMake expert unfortunately
[17:11] <slangasek> I can't find anything in the cmake code that explains why -fPIE is being used
[17:11] <slangasek> maybe you'll have better luck than me
[17:14] <slangasek> mitya57: Debian version of libphonon4qt5-dev doesn't include the check for -fPIE
[17:15] <mitya57> ah, I thought that warning was coming from Qt itself
[17:15] <mitya57> Actually I believe adding actually set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS} ${Qt5Widgets_EXECUTABLE_COMPILE_FLAGS}") to CMakeLists.txt will just work
[17:17] <slangasek> maybe it's worth checking if this is fixed by a phonon merge from unstable
[17:17] <cyphermox> tdaitx: what about console-setup/keyboard-configuration?
[17:17] <slangasek> since there are (surprising) differences in the installed cmake rules, and Debian doesn't have this problem
[17:20] <tdaitx> cyphermox, well, I set up a new font and keyboard layout for the new computer, but only the keyboard layout is being applied on boot... I'm investigating what I might be missing in my initramfs config, but anyway I noticed that console-setup, console-setup-linux, and keyboard-configuration have upstart scripts, while only keyboard-configuration has a systemd service, so the console font is not being set
[17:22] * Laney stares at gstreamer-vaapi
[17:23] <Laney> ah right, probably just skew
[17:30] <cyphermox> tdaitx: interesting. text-mode console font?
[17:31] <tdaitx> cyphermox, yes
[17:31] <cyphermox> as you expect this would be applied in initramfs, before systemd, no?
[17:31] <cyphermox> which font, for fun? if I want to install it here?
[17:32] <tdaitx> it should be
[17:33] <tdaitx> CODESET="Lat15"
[17:33] <tdaitx> FONTFACE="TerminusBold"
[17:33] <tdaitx> FONTSIZE="16x32"
[17:33] <tdaitx> cyphermox, ^
[17:33] <cyphermox> yep, will apply this here on my temporary laptop, while the tech finishes changing the mobo
[17:35] <tdaitx> cyphermox, you might want to use a smaller one =)
[17:35] <tdaitx> in case you dont have a high dpi display
[17:42] <seb128> tjaalton, is anyone looking at bug #1510970
[17:42] <seb128> seems lamont is able to reproduce easily
[17:43] <lamont> well, easily is more one of "I do things, and it gets mad sometime with in about 10 minutes of normal work on my laptop"
[17:43] <lamont> but yeah, it reproduces on an alarmingly easy basis
[17:43] <cyphermox> tdaitx: I see so well that this is a great font size for me ;)
[17:44] <cyphermox> yay, I gotz new variables now.
[17:44] <tdaitx> cyphermox, sorry, my battery ran out
[17:44] <tdaitx> cyphermox, heh, nice
[17:44] <cyphermox> tdaitx: so, I agree, needs some systemd magic
[17:44] <cyphermox> but it should also get applied before then in initramfs and it doesn't seem to be
[17:44] <lamont> dbg package installed, laptop rebooting for a known-fresh start, let see how hard it falls over now
[17:45] <tdaitx> cyphermox, indeed, I'm trying to figure out why
[17:45] <cyphermox> it should be run setfont in init-top though
[17:47] <bdmurray> hallyn: The T upload for bug 1511830 seems to be missing.
[17:53] <hallyn> bdmurray: correct
[17:53] <hallyn> when i uploaded those on 11/04 i was still waiting for libvirt to clear t-proposed
[17:53] <hallyn> in fact i still am
[17:53] <Unit193> hallyn: Re: ubuntu-vm-builder. Looked into vmdebootstrap?
[17:56] <hallyn> Unit193: in what sense? I encourage anyone rdep'ing on vmbuilder to switch over :)
[17:57] <hallyn> i don't think it was around last time i tried to drop vmbuilder
[17:57] <hallyn> (from the archive)
[17:57] <hallyn> currently rdeps are sandbox-upgrader and auto-upgrade-tester
[17:59] <Unit193> Aha, so yes. Nice.
[17:59] <hallyn> any chance you'd have time to work on proposed debdiffs to move those over? :-)
[17:59] <slangasek> Laney, mitya57: well hey, it seems that this same failure causes phonon itself to FTBFS; so the problem lies deeper yet
[18:00] <Laney> I'm sad that I don't get to do the last upload. :)
[18:00] * Laney has to go
[18:00] <Unit193> hallyn: That's not actually directed at me is it?
[18:05] <Unit193> (That is, never touched those, not a core dev.)
[18:06] <lamont> seb128: so much for "trivial reproduction"
[18:06] <lamont> once I get it to die, I'll update 1510970
[18:06] <seb128> lamont, :-(
[18:06] <seb128> thanks
[18:07] <lamont> seb128: it did seem to always be around a popup window being created, fwiw
[18:07] <seb128> write that on the bug when you get the bt
[18:08] <seb128> then we can do some nagging upstream ;-)
[18:10] <lamont> tbf, if -dbg makes it go away, ... :D
[18:10] <seb128> I doubt it, -dbg doesn't change runtine
[18:10] <seb128> runtime
[18:10] <seb128> those are just files on the side that gdb uses
[18:13] <lamont> yeah
[18:13] * lamont otp meeting
[18:20] <hallyn> Unit193: s'ok, you can still post debdiffs :)
[18:22] <lamont> seb128: tbf, when I installed -dbg, it upgraded the driver too
[18:23] <lamont> I'm tempted do downrev and grab the matching -dbg
[18:24] <seb128> lamont, it's likely that the update fixed it, dholbach had a similar issue and tjaalton said the new git snapshot in xenial included fixes for some similar issues
[18:24] <seb128> we should still find the fix for that issue and SRU it
[18:24] <seb128> so having a debug bt of the old version would be useful
[18:25] <seb128> could help to find the corresponding upstream bug/commit
[18:29] <lamont> sure
[18:30] <lamont> reboot for cleanstart with old version
[18:33] <tdaitx> cyphermox, ok, there is a mismatch between the console-setup (re)configure script and the initramfs hook+init-top
[18:34] <tdaitx> cyphermox, for a start, the configure script setups the size as 16x32 and writes that to /etc/default/console-setup as FONTSIZE. AFAICS the font name is in the format 32x16
[18:35] <tdaitx> setupcon does detect and handles that, inverting it to 32x16 before searching for the font file, then copies that file to /etc/console-setup
[18:36] <tdaitx> the initramfs hook and init-top scripts for console-setup use the value from /etc/default/console-setup (16x32) so they wouldn't find the font
[18:41] <tdaitx> and, second, the font is saved to /etc/console-setup as a .gz file, but the initramfs hook and script expect a .psf file not a .gz file
[18:47] <tdaitx> cyphermox, also, /etc/default/console-setup has an example for using FONT='font1 font2', that works fine for /bin/setupcon but it does not work as expected for both console-setup initramfs hook and init-top script
[18:47] <tdaitx> seems like console-setup needs some love
[18:48] <tsimonq2> is there a channel in which to ask about the Launchpad API? #launchpad maybe?
[18:48] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: #launchpad is fine
[18:49] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[18:56] <Noskcaj> When are the UDD branches expected to appear?
[18:57] <cjwatson> Noskcaj: it is possible that they will not. we're still deciding
[18:58] <cjwatson> it is a fair bit of work to bring them up and it's not clear it's worth it given how badly broken they are in so many cases
[18:58] <cjwatson> it depends somewhat on whether we can make progress with dgit in a reasonable time
[18:59] <Unit193> What about something ala sources.d.net? And dgit, hrm..
[19:00] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:00] <cjwatson> Unit193: I would love to do sources.d.n but it's not clear when :-)
[19:01] <cjwatson> I think dgit is more urgent
[19:01] <Unit193> cjwatson: ..And all those other things you need to fix first, as well as all those other things you'd like to do. As of yet I've ignored dgit because I don't have upload perms, is there a testing ground for it?
[19:06] <cjwatson> Unit193: not quite that far along yet, current state is https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/sourcefileurls-include-meta/+merge/276928
[19:06] <Unit193> (I was referring to Debian's use in terms of ignoring it.)
[19:06] <Unit193> Ah, cool
[19:07] <cjwatson> then I need to test out the WIP patch I have to make dgit support Launchpad at all (it needs to query its API for a few things, mostly), and then we have two things to do roughly in parallel, which are (a) figure out how on earth to implement something akin to dgit-repos-server's push policy in turnip (the LP git backend), and (b) make lp:ubuntu/+source/<source> git repositories work, mainly hooking them up to upload permissions
[19:08] <cjwatson> and then figure out and deploy a mass importers
[19:08] <cjwatson> *importer
[19:08] <cjwatson> it's not intractably complex but there's a reasonable amount to do
[19:15] <tjaalton> seb128, lamont: oh right, apparently the new snapshot works better, so the fix should ne bisectable
[19:15] <tjaalton> *be
[19:20] <Mirv> slangasek: Laney mitya57: it should be patched to ban -fPIE like required with GCC5 (on x86, where Qt autodetecs and enables the -reduce-relocations option qtbase). something similar to what you did Laney here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poppler/0.33.0-0ubuntu3
[19:21] <slangasek> Mirv: do you know where this -fPIE is coming from in the first place? This is somewhere deep in the build-dependencies; we shouldn't patch every leaf package that's getting bitten by wrong cmake checks
[19:22] <Mirv> another example http://launchpadlibrarian.net/214075540/gnuplot5_5.0.1%2Bdfsg1-2build1_5.0.1%2Bdfsg1-2ubuntu1.diff.gz
[19:23] <Mirv> slangasek: I'm not sure, those two examples were from hardening flags, +all includes -fPIE
[19:23] <Mirv> most leaf packages, also CMake, have worked without changes
[19:24] <Mirv> and in this example, which may be the last one that was done during wily, set -fPIE itself http://launchpadlibrarian.net/213155371/pay-service_2.0.0%2B15.10.20150727-0ubuntu1_2.0.0%2B15.10.20150730-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[19:24] <slangasek> it's not coming from either phonon or phonon-backend-vlc; both packages FTBFS but the -fPIE is coming from somewhere else
[19:30] <Mirv> slangasek: phonon has check_cxx_compiler_flag(-fPIE HAVE_FPIE_SUPPORT) and that would look to be there in the phonon-backend-vlc build log
[19:31] <slangasek> Mirv: yes, there's a check for whether the compiler flag is supported; but that shouldn't cause it to be used automatically for all tests...
[19:31] <Mirv> if it has it, it seems to set (KDE4_CXX_FPIE_FLAGS "-fPIE")
[19:32] <Mirv> (reading FindPhononInternal.cmake)
[19:32] <Mirv> but there's also KDE4_ENABLE_FPIE coming from somewhere
[19:33] <davmor2> Mirv: what are you even doing online isn;t like 2am for you? ;)
[19:33] <slangasek> Mirv: but doing set(KDE4_ENABLE_FPIE) in phonon-backend-vlc's CMakeLists.txt doesn't seem to do any good; and I can't find anything that's setting it, anywhere under /usr
[19:34] <slangasek> there's basically *nothing* that says PIE, in the build tree or in the build-deps
[19:35] <Mirv> davmor2: going to sleep :) not 2am, just early mornings
[19:46] <elbrus> pitti: I missed that encoding error, let me think about that one (but it works on other archs, so I think it is not correct to fail on it.
[19:48] <Mirv> slangasek: I need to go, but this sounds related https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/123874/diff/2#index_header
[19:51] <Mirv> also in Debian http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-req/phonon.git/commit/?id=7b0e6608211707c91b52833adc23f6d9295a6916
[19:52] <Mirv> maybe this "small" commit too http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-req/phonon.git/commit/?id=c78af618d090b3ee7fd9e124c25e1568b20fa9b3
[20:04] <Noskcaj> Are we ok to sync gpgme1.0 from debian? the default install now carries pinentry-gnome3 and gnupg2
[20:11] <slangasek> Mirv: aha! strange that I didn't see that in the diff with Debian...
[20:28] <rodrigc> is anyone here working on Python 3 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3 )?
[21:04] <teward> when someone files a bug, is there a reason apport wouldn't work with the package hooks
[21:35] <lamont> tjaalton: seb128: sadly, I left the laptop power supply at home this morning, so ... :(
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-ops
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[00:41] <bazhang> [Kuntinator] (32889a9b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.136.154.155): 50.136.154.155
[00:41] <bazhang> spells trouble
[00:47] <bazhang> Kuntinator> ops pls ban bazhang for trolling
[00:47] <bazhang> what a surprise
[00:50] <k1l_> you and your fans :)
[00:51] <bazhang> thats the 12 is old enough for irc guy
[07:04] <Unit193> xhoch3: Howdy. Anything else we can do for you?
[20:49] <genii> @comment 69769 Reviewed, not lifted
[22:21] <Jordan_U> ikonia: I don't quite follow your logic for saying that bryn__ was lying.
[22:22] <ikonia> he couldn't use sudo
[22:22] <ikonia> yet in other channels he was saying he was using sudo with random fixes
[22:22] <Jordan_U> Which would make sense if he just recently accidentally ran "sudo chown -R bryn /" and broke everything. That sudo command worked.
[22:23] <ikonia> he hadn't
[22:23] <Jordan_U> Which you know because?
[22:23] <ikonia> because he's talking about this elsewhere
[22:23] <ikonia> and stating "he swears he didn't run that"
[22:24] <ikonia> there is an element of chance that he was just unaware of what he's doing, because he also claims he is the sysadmin and 100+ users are using the server
[22:24] <ikonia> but the whole thing seems very contrived
[22:24] <ikonia> I've removed the ban on him
[22:24] <genii> For some reason this reminds me of eagles0513875
[22:25] <Jordan_U> He may have run "sudo chown -R /$HOM" and not realized what happens when the variable the variable $HOM doesn't exist or in this case is misspelled.
[22:25] <ikonia> maybe
[22:25] <ikonia> all very possible, but not what he's saying,
[22:27] <ikonia> still don't believe a word he's saying
[22:27] <ikonia> he's now admitting sudo doesn't work
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Which would be consistent with it working before a recent improper chown command. (I'm not in whatever other channels you're seeing his new responses in).
[22:28] <ikonia> nope
[22:29] <genii> Jordan_U: -server
[22:29] <ikonia> he said he installed it just seconds ago
[22:29] <ikonia> so he installed gksu on a non-graphical server
[22:29] <ikonia> without sudo
[22:29] <ikonia> and fixed the permissions problem
[22:29] <ikonia> now he's saying he didn't
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-arm
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[09:11] <Garibel> Hi everyone, I have an ubuntu 12.04 armel and I'd like to upgrade to a 14.04 armhf, is there anyway to do without reinstalling the whole system?
[09:51] <ogra_> Garibel, nope
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[16:13] <yano> http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/11/donald-trump-insists-that-wages-are-too-high/
[16:13] <jenni> https://j.mp/1NNoNl0
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2015-11-12-#launchpad
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[18:50] <tsimonq2> hi, I have a question about the API
[18:50] <tsimonq2> I am looking to build an app that scans certain packages in the supported releases of Ubuntu for new versions and if so, then prints a message
[18:51] <tsimonq2> is there a way in the API to see a package version?
[18:52] <tsimonq2> I see the entry for Xenial, with it being the current release, but how about implementing Trusty, Vivid, and Wily?
[18:52] <tsimonq2> if someone could get back to me soon, that would be great. THanks!
[18:52] <cjwatson> I would suggest using https://launchpad.net/+apidoc/devel.html#archive-getPublishedSources with order_by_date=True, and work backward until you hit stuff you've previously seen (being aware that you might see the same publication twice)
[18:52] <cjwatson> trusty, vivid, and wily are perfectly well implemented :)
[18:53] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: all I see is current_version, what about calling it for those previous codenames?
[18:53] <cjwatson> current_version on what object, please?
[18:54] <cjwatson> there is no object with an attribute by that name on the API
[18:54] <cjwatson> do you mean current_series?
[18:54] <tsimonq2> this is my current code: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tsimonq2/lububot/master/test.py
[18:54] <tsimonq2> I have to go now, I will be back in a couple of hours, please let me know
[18:54] <tsimonq2> thank you
[18:54] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: use ubuntu.getSeries(name_or_version='wily') etc.
[18:55] <tsimonq2> ok, thanks
[18:55] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: that code will be extremely very very very slow on lots of packages
[18:55] <tsimonq2> hmm pok
[18:55] <cjwatson> I mean, if you're calling it on lots of packages
[18:55] <tsimonq2> s/pok/ok/
[18:55] <cjwatson> many many round trips
[18:55] <tsimonq2> yep :)
[18:55] <cjwatson> if it's only a few, that's ok
[18:55] <tsimonq2> I have a plan ;)
[18:55] <cjwatson> but if you're intending to check lots of packages, my recommendation above standas
[18:56] <cjwatson> *stands
[18:56] <cjwatson> archive.getPublishedSources(order_by_date=True, status="Published") and iterate
[18:57] <cjwatson> also, you should probably be using status="Published" in any case
[23:10] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: hmm, what if I wanted to do a lot of packages?
[23:10] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: any faster alternative?
[23:12] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: so, for that you're going to need to explain a bit more about exactly what your app is going to do
[23:14] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: I would like my app(Python) to idle and print the package name when there is an update to a large amount of packages
[23:14] <tsimonq2> or to that package
[23:14] <tsimonq2> so when a package gets an update, I want an output
[23:15] <tsimonq2> similar to queuebot
[23:16] <sarnold> isn't there a -changes mail list of some sort that publishes updates and new packages?
[23:16] <sarnold> e.g. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/trusty-changes
[23:16] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: so, there aren't currently good solutions that don't involve polling, but if you're prepared to poll every n minutes or something, then I gave you the faster alternative above - archive.getPublishedSources(order_by_date=True) basically tells you about everything recent in the archive, a bit like a fairly stupid RSS feed, and you walk back through it until you reach the thing you last heard of or a date cut-off
[23:17] <cjwatson> (or, yes, if you're prepared to subscribe to a mailing list as part of this then you can do that, but that's cumbersome from an app
[23:17] <cjwatson> )
[23:17] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: but then how would I parse that for the packages that I want?
[23:18] <wgrant> What do you mean?
[23:18] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: each entry in the collection is a source_package_publishing_history, so you look at the source_name attribute or whatever it's called
[23:18] <wgrant> It returns a list of entries, and you'd check the package name in each.
[23:18] <cjwatson> you don't need to "parse"
[23:18] <tsimonq2> oh
[23:18] <tsimonq2> ok
[23:19] <cjwatson> now, if you're planning for this app to be installed on lots and lots of systems, er, please warn us
[23:19] <cjwatson> 'cos maybe we want something more scalable in that kind of case ...
[23:19] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: no, actually I plan on this being an IRC bot
[23:19] <cjwatson> (and you want status="Published" on that too, so that you don't get entries for things that are superseded etc.)
[23:20] <cjwatson> right, this should be fine for an IRC bot. it's what the ddebs.ubuntu.com publishing backend uses to keep up with the archive
[23:20] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: so I want it to be as frequent as possible updates for that
[23:20] <cjwatson> and indeed we designed it for that purpose
[23:21] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: so as I am not that familiar with working with APIs, how would I carry out that task(in code terms)?
[23:24] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: so maybe source_package_publishing_history.sourcename?
[23:25] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: or what?
[23:28] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: but more specifically, when using the docs, how do I use the URLs given?
[23:30] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: I just lack this knowledge, so if you could point me in the right direction, that would be awesome
[23:36] <tsimonq2> or anyone else
[23:39] <wgrant> tsimonq2: https://help.launchpad.net/API/launchpadlib
[23:47] <tsimonq2> wgrant: thank you
[23:53] <sarnold> https://bugs.launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+bug/659438 got some spam and fairly impolite replies from users; can this bug be made silent in some fashion? perhaps https://launchpad.net/~tegosfentasio and https://launchpad.net/~jc4 and https://launchpad.net/~ishani-infoware don't need to participate in launchpad any more either (comments 170, 172, 174)
[23:54] <wgrant> sarnold: Well that's pretty spectacular.
[23:55] <sarnold> pleasant people all around, right?
[23:55] <wgrant> sarnold: I've removed the comments, let me know if it continues.
[23:55] <wgrant> Indeed.
[23:55] <sarnold> wgrant: thanks!
[23:55] <wgrant> And all from some innocuous spam.
[23:56] <sarnold> no kidding; even without understanding ukranian it was obviously spam.. sigh.
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2015-11-12-#kubuntu
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[01:19] <thelionroars> what happened to the 'extract' shortcuts in Dolphin (right button click menu) with the 15.10 update, and how do I get them back?
[01:21] <kdefanno6> thelionroars: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?69143-Ark-right-click-options-missing-in-15-10
[01:23] <thelionroars> thanks kdefanno6
[05:08] <MelRay> Hey everyone how difficult is it to set up FTP?
[06:04] <rvk> Hello!
[08:31] <Guest87014> how to install plasma5 on my kubuntu 14.04 64bit
[08:32] <hateball> Guest87014: Wait for 16.04
[08:32] <Guest87014> any help???
[11:54] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[11:56] <Smurphy> Morning :)
[11:56] <Smurphy> Afternoon here already.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> only 7AM here , there's more than 5 hrs difference?
[12:05] <BluesKaj> ahh, ok there is more than 5hrs
[12:19] <Yossarianuk> the slow login issue seems fixed after yesterdays update - whoop !
[12:43] <somekool> Guest15900: I did it on my GF laptop, but ended up not being as stable. you should upgrade to 15.10, wait for 16.04 or stick with KDE 4 if you have to stick with 14.04
[14:59] <svend-ev> Good morning
[15:40] <vitodoc> prova
[15:41] <vitodoc> prova
[15:44] <soee> ?
[18:24] <EvilRoey> yofel: hey
[18:24] <EvilRoey> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-now-has-two-release-managers-after-jonathan-riddell-s-departure-496070.shtml
[18:24] <EvilRoey> I just read that article stating that you and sgclark are the new maintainers
[18:24] <EvilRoey> yofel: thank you for your efforts
[18:43] <Rocketsboy> ?
[20:25] <keithzg> ...well damn, updated my 14.04 install with the Backports PPA and now KWin doesn't actually work right (no window decorations at all, so no way to move windows around or such, yikes)
[20:25] <Chaser> Hello, starting 15.10 I see my bottom panel disappearing over the course of use. Is there a way to restart that part of KDE with out having to reboot the system ?
[20:36] <bprompt> Chaser: bottom panel, you mean the taskbar?
[20:37] <krise> Hei. I just installed new updates and muon discover were removed. Does anybody know why this hapend ?
[20:40] <keithzg> krise: That's a bit odd, but possibly explicable. What version of Kubuntu are you on and what repos do you have enabled?
[20:41] <Chaser> bprompt: yup
[20:44] <bprompt> Chaser: http://askubuntu.com/questions/481329/can-i-restart-the-kde-plasma-desktop-without-logging-out <--- could try that, killall plasmashell; kstart plasmashell;
[20:45] <Chaser> bprompt: sweet ! seems to work. thanks.
[20:46] <bprompt> np
[20:49] <krise> 15.10 keithzg . How di i see what repos i have enabled ?
[20:50] <keithzg> krise: Should be in the file /etc/apt/sources.list and possibly in files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:52] <krise> there is like 21 files inside that folder keitzhg
[20:53] <krise> how can i re install muon discover via terminal ?
[20:54] <keithzg> krise: You've added a lot of external PPAs and such then!
[20:54] <keithzg> krise: Yup, you can install it again via the terminal, let me grab the package name
[20:54] <krise> thanks
[20:55] <keithzg> krise: At least back on 14.04 (which is what I've been sticking with for installs at work) it's "muon-discover", so "sudo apt install muon-discover" would get you it. Let me double check that that's still true in 15.10; I know that Discover is being branched away from Muon.
[20:55] <keithzg> (which might explain it being removed for you, perhaps)
[20:56] <krise> is there any other program like muon discover i recomend?
[20:56] <krise> u recomend
[20:57] <keithzg> krise: Well, looking at packages.ubuntu.com, muon-discover is still a package in both wily and xenial, so "sudo apt install muon-discover" should work.
[20:57] <keithzg> Eventually the package name might change (and maybe it has; do you have the Kubuntu backports PPA enabled?) but it should still be around as an application nonetheless.
[20:58] <krise> yes it is enabled
[20:58] <keithzg> I suspect you have the backports PPA installed and it was just no longer a dependency of one of the newer packages, so it was automatically removed.
[20:58] <keithzg> Alright, then if you run "sudo apt install muon-discover" you should get it back.
[20:59] <keithzg> You'll have it installed manually then, so it shouldn't be auto-removed in the future during upgrades.
[20:59] <keithzg> And if it's ever replaced once the branding change is done, in theory the package will just be changed to a . . . umm I forget the term but a metapackage that just redirects to the new package name, basically.
[21:00] <keithzg> So you shouldn't even need to know in the future, it *should* all just work smoothly :)
[21:00] <krise> Ok , thank u, i got it installed
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-sv
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[03:04] <conejitodepascua> hola
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.908986
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2015-11-12-#upstart
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[10:06] <ktosiek> Hi! How can I restrict the amount of memory a job can use on upstart 1.12?
[23:21] <belak> Is there a way with upstart to have an env file, similar to systemd's EnvironmentFile directive?
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2015-11-12-#snappy
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[00:39] <csanders> Anyone here?
[02:01] <liuxg> I am running a service in golang, in the code, there are some runtime outputs like fmt.Println. where can I find the output data?
[03:27] <elopio> liuxg: sudo snappy service logs <name of the snap>
[03:28] <liuxg> elopio, thanks. I just found it either :)
[03:28] <elopio> that's good.
[03:29] <liuxg> elopio, snapcraft does not support local file compilation for go, right?
[03:29] <elopio> liuxg: not sure what you mean by that.
[03:30] <liuxg> elopio, I have a webserver project, and it is source code is in a github project. is it possible to compile a local go file https://github.com/liu-xiao-guo/go-webserver/blob/master/snapcraft.yaml
[03:31] <elopio> liuxg: sure, should be possible. There are two go projects in the examples: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/tree/master/examples
[03:33] <liuxg> elopio, looking in the snapcraft.yaml file, all of the sources pointing to the github. they are not local..
[03:35] <elopio> liuxg: so, I'm still not sure what you want. But you should be able a local path instead of a git location.
[03:35] <elopio> plugin: go
[03:35] <elopio> source: path/to/src.
[03:36] <liuxg> elopio, I have changed path to local, it does not work.
[03:36] <elopio> liuxg: then that's a bug. Can you paste the error?
[03:37] <liuxg> elopio, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1515132
[03:37] <elopio> liuxg: ah, right. So it needs to ve a valid go path. Something you would use with go get.
[03:38] <liuxg> elopio, so, how can I correct the issue?
[03:38] <elopio> sorry for making it more confusing. I think we need to support your case, and that's a different issue.
[03:39] <liuxg> elopio, yes, it is reasonable usage case for most the developers.
[03:40] <elopio> liuxg: I'm not quite sure. In order to be importable, it needs to be in $GOPATH/src/
[03:41] <liuxg> elopio, would you please make my bug as a valid request?
[03:41] <elopio> liuxg: yes, tomorrow I'll talk about this with sergiusens.
[03:42] <liuxg> elopio, ok. many thanks :)
[03:42] <liuxg> elopio, do you mean that I need to set the $GOPATH myself to make it work?
[03:43] <elopio> liuxg: I really don't know. I'd had to look at the go plugin source to understand how it works, but I'm having dinner :)
[03:43] <liuxg> elopio, ok. thanks! have a nice dinner.
[03:43] <elopio> liuxg: for now you can push your source to github or launchpad.
[03:43] <elopio> if it's a valid source for go get, it should work with the git plugin.
[03:44] <liuxg> elopio, the thing is that some projects may not be open projects :) and also, in order to build it, we have to always push it, it is troublesome. yes, for the short term, github works.
[03:45] <elopio> yeah, your use case is valid. Take a look at the bug tomorrow morning
[03:47] <Bluefoxicy> What's going on with snappy?
[03:47] <Bluefoxicy> is this going to be the new thing? Am I going to install ubuntu-gnome under snappy one day?
[04:06] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: one day, sure.
[04:09] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: want to see something from 2004?
[04:09] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: I'm not particularly interested in 2004, no.
[04:10] <Bluefoxicy> heh
[04:12] <Bluefoxicy> so how does snappy work, anyway? The root is read-only, you put an image on top, can roll back if it doesn't work?
[04:14] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: you have two partitions. When you start, the two are the same, the latest image.
[04:14] <elopio> When you update, you put the new image in the second partition.
[04:14] <elopio> You reboot to that other partition, and if it fails the system reboots on the first partition.
[04:14] <elopio> if it works but you don't like the new version, you can manually roll back to the first partition too.
[04:16] <Bluefoxicy> finally.
[04:16] <Bluefoxicy> Now maybe one day we'll get automatic just-in-time security updates.
[04:16] <elopio> liuxg: GOPATH is set to builddir. And pull always does go get. So there's no workaround for your case, we'll need to extend the plugin.
[04:17] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: does the tech this runs on have the capability to detect and react to file access before it goes through, or is that still not part of the OS?
[04:17] <liuxg> elopio, ok. got it. so the bug is a valid bug, right? I think it is a little different from the said bug.
[04:18] <elopio> liuxg: I think it's valid, and shouldn't be duplicated. Need to convince Sergio, which shouldn't be hard.
[04:18] <elopio> and you also pointed to a case we had not considered. If the github or launchpad repo is private, we need to handle credentials.
[04:19] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: not sure what you mean. The snaps, as we call the packages for snappy, have a local working space. They can only touch files in their working space.
[04:19] <liuxg> elopio, yes, thanks for your understanding
[04:22] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: back in 2005 I wrote about plans I never got to for making an OS that essentially isolated the base installation from the rest of the system by using unionfs to mount over it. It was crude. One of the things I described was detecting access to files and responding accordingly--notably, with an integrated package manager that would recognize when you tried to access an executable or library from a package with a secur
[04:22] <Bluefoxicy> ity update, and immediately install the update.
[04:22] <Bluefoxicy> don't ask me why I thought this was a good idea
[04:22] <Bluefoxicy> at the moment, I still think it's an interesting idea; actual merits are debatable.
[04:23] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: it's interesting to check for updates just-in-time. What we have is a daily autoupdate.
[04:23] <Bluefoxicy> in any case, the technology going into things like coreos or snappy is ...better than what I Had on hand.
[04:24] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: yes, but you have the obvious problem of a program halting for 10 minutes while it downloads and installs a bunch of dependencies
[04:24] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: it would be interesting to have push notifications for security updates.
[04:24] <elopio> on the phone we have that.
[04:24] <Bluefoxicy> haha. Perhaps, but that's a whole different can of worms
[04:25] <elopio> when there's a new update, you get a message and you can manually install it. Or configure your phone to autoinstall updates on wi-fi.
[04:25] <Bluefoxicy> yeah.
[04:25] <elopio> we'll have to get that working on top of snappy at some point.
[04:28] <Bluefoxicy> delta debs would be great.
[04:28] <Bluefoxicy> delta updates have been a topic of debate and salivation for over a decade
[04:29] <Bluefoxicy> Has anyone thought of an unpatch-and-patch model yet, where you send the delta for both release base and installed, as well as the delta for current and release, so as to first build an as-installed deb, then make that a release deb, and patch that into a current deb?
[04:29] <Bluefoxicy> I guess you can do the same with snaps
[04:30] <Bluefoxicy> The ability to send half a megabyte to update LibreOffice would make JIT upgrades reasonable I think
[04:46] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: delta downloads works on the phone already. Needs some more thinking on snappy, because of the format of the snaps.
[04:46] <Bluefoxicy> nice
[04:47] <elopio> but there is no patching in snaps. You apply the patches in your repository, and then generate the snap from that repo.
[04:48] <Bluefoxicy> How will the desktop work? Will it install all desktop applications in one container, or will it provide containers for Chromium and Thunderbird and such and somehow make application links in the desktop that just work?
[04:50] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: that's still work in progress. There will be a snappy personal, which will work like the phone on desktop.
[04:50] <elopio> we'll have to package thunderbird and chromium as snaps for them to work with all the security and isolation.
[04:51] <elopio> there will be a classic mode in something more light than a container, that will let you install debs.
[04:51] <elopio> also work in progress.
[04:51] <Bluefoxicy> interesting.
[04:51] <Bluefoxicy> I can't see why all this wasn't done years ago, other than that nobody thought of it.
[04:51] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: go to github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy. You'll have fun there.
[04:53] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: I think there were more important problems to solve years ago.
[04:53] <Bluefoxicy> perhaps.
[04:54] <elopio> the users of desktop were happy with apt-get upgrades and not really interested in a certified bullet proof machine
[04:54] <elopio> and on the phone we were struggling to get linux running, like openmoko. Android changed everything.
[04:55] <elopio> and there was no beaglebone or raspberry pi.
[04:55] <elopio> this is a great momment to be developing for linux. Lots of things to do.
[04:55] <Bluefoxicy> I always wanted computers to be magic.
[05:00] <Bluefoxicy> I remember configuring my PC and laptop to trade processes between them. OpenMosix would let them send stuff over the network to execute on other machines. Dragonfly BSD has this thing where you can freeze a program, then thaw it later--dump its entire execution to a file, boot a new kernel, then continue executing.
[05:00] <Bluefoxicy> and then there's Minix
[05:01] <Bluefoxicy> now we have PCs the size of credit cards what can run programs in isolated contexts, pop them in and out, and cluster together to move applications around to wherever there's execution space.
[05:02] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: and all this stuff is trying to target phones and desktops.
[05:02] <Bluefoxicy> Do you know what I've been fantasizing in my head for the past 3 years?
[05:02] <Bluefoxicy> You're running Chrome on your phone, that little browser interface set up for it, the way it runs on android
[05:03] <Bluefoxicy> then, you pop it in the dock, and your 40 inch 4K display shows you an X or Wayland or whatever display, and taht little chromium window turns itself into a desktop window.
[05:03] <Bluefoxicy> a phone display over here, a desktop display over there.
[05:04] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: ah, but where have you been the past months? Let me look a video for you.
[05:04] <Bluefoxicy> people are like, "We could have it reboot into a full desktop OS..." and I'm like "Screw that, you could have it reshape itself depending on what kind of terminal it's connected to!"
[05:04] <Bluefoxicy> they're actually doing this?
[05:08] <Bluefoxicy> I've been awake too long.
[05:09] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: https://youtu.be/hLYvy1tPKtQ?t=10m4s
[05:16] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: I see that it plugs in and runs a program in a window
[05:17] <Bluefoxicy> but I don't see everything already running suddenly exporting its display to a desktop display on connection
[05:18] <elopio> my slimport cable hasn't arrived, so I haven't checked it.
[05:18] <elopio> but that should work, if not now, soon.
[05:18] <Bluefoxicy> cool
[05:19] <Bluefoxicy> it's also weird that it gives that MegaBloks interface when plugged into an enormous tv with a mouse and keyboard, instead of a proper UI. It's not a gigantic Android tablet.
[05:20] <Bluefoxicy> I suppose the goal is eventually to make it behave like a PC when plugged into appropriate peripherals, instead of like a cell phone hooked up to a giant screen
[05:20] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: that's because on a TV you will usually be far from it, so you need the icons and fonts to be big.
[05:20] <elopio> when you connect it to a monitor, the pixel density is different. The fonts will be smaller because you are expected to be closer to the monitor.
[05:21] <Bluefoxicy> I didn't mean size
[05:22] <Bluefoxicy> I meant the visual style is that of a child's toy. I guess that's a minor complaint, considering just how bad modern UI design has become from a functional perspective.
[05:22] <elopio> well, yeah, that's the ubuntu sdk style.
[05:23] <elopio> I like it.
[05:23] <Bluefoxicy> There was a time when everything was a mess; then we learned to put things in nice groups in front of the user, where expected, and to have advanced functions tucked away with sane defaults you could revert to if the user decided to go hunting for things to tweak. Now all those advanced features are completely removed, and you get stupid crap like a phone that only sends a 200kbyte MMS on a carrier who allows 1Mbyte MMS, becau
[05:23] <Bluefoxicy> se nobody wants the user to raise the limit and break their MMS.
[05:24] <Bluefoxicy> Android is particularly littered with gems of bad UI design like that.
[05:24] <Bluefoxicy> And here I am complaining about shiny boxes being too shiny.
[05:25] <elopio> :)
[05:25] <elopio> it's good. It's free software. If you don't like the shine, go and change it.
[05:26] <elopio> some decissions are going to be hard to tweak. But even now you can put plasma movil on your ubuntu phone instead of unity.
[05:26] <Bluefoxicy> You do understand that's a false choice unless somebody else does it first, right?
[05:26] <elopio> other options will come too.
[05:26] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: why somebody else?
[05:26] <Bluefoxicy> Most people can't just go about changing things. Hell, even Ubuntu and RedHat can't go about just changing things; they invest an immense amount of R&D into stuff like this.
[05:27] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: a lot of people would have to invest a lot of labor time up front to develop the skills required to make any specific changes to open source software
[05:27] <Bluefoxicy> it's like saying if you don't like the trucks Chevrolet sells, why not build your own?
[05:27] <elopio> I'm not saying that it will be easy. I'm not even close to say that your change will look good. But it's possible, the only thing you need is time and an itch.
[05:28] <Bluefoxicy> Financial considerations aside, do you even know how to engineer an automobile?
[05:28] <Bluefoxicy> right
[05:28] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: that's different. The Chevrolet also involves money.
[05:28] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: even if it didn't, it would involve a lot of engineering knowledge.
[05:28] <elopio> but if I have the money, I also have the potential to hack my car. And it will probably be a lot harder, because all the sources of it are closed.
[05:29] <Bluefoxicy> I'll probably drive myself insane teaching myself to program so I can write video games. Nothing I can't handle, although my mind is breaking under the strain already.
[05:29] <elopio> Bluefoxicy: yeah, but engineering knowledge is something you can earn by investing time.
[05:30] <elopio> so not *you*. But anybody else with the time can do it.
[05:30] <Bluefoxicy> elopio: to be precise: anybody with the time and with nothing better to invest the time in can do it. We're getting into an economics discussion, though.
[05:31] <Bluefoxicy> which irritates me these days, ever since I figured out how to solve poverty and discovered nobody cares. I've started to hate politics, but I guess I'm catching up to everyone else in that regard.
[05:34] * Bluefoxicy sleeps.
[05:34] <elopio> bye.
[05:44] <liuxg> elopio, ping
[05:44] <elopio> liuxg: tell me.
[05:45] <liuxg> elopio, I am now trying to cross-compile my project for armhf. I found a bug related to snapcraft at https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1514650
[05:45] <liuxg> elopio, how do you normally compile a project for armhf so far? cross-compile is not supported by the tool.
[05:46] <elopio> liuxg: and probably won't be supported. The discussions so far point to running snapcraft on the target.
[05:46] <elopio> liuxg: so, get snappy running on an arm board, install lxd and start a lxc. Install snapcraft there.
[05:46] <liuxg> elopio, yes, that is currently what I am doing. I am using a docker, inside it, I install a armhf ubuntu
[05:47] <liuxg> elopio, lxd seems not supporting armhf so far.
[05:47] <elopio> so let me look at the bug.
[05:47] <liuxg> elopio, ok
[05:49] <elopio> liuxg: what does gvm do? How is it fixing it?
[05:50] <liuxg> elopio, I search for some posts, it asks me to do install sth go1.5. I just installed half way, and it started to work.
[05:51] <liuxg> elopio, I think the installation must have some problem with it for the golang for the image.
[05:51] <elopio> liuxg: could you try with an empty lxc, just with snapcraft installed? Just to rule out a problem in the docker container.
[05:52] <liuxg> elopio, have you tried that solution before? if you have the guide for me, please send it to me. thanks
[05:53] <elopio> liuxg: I have compiled some packages in lxc. I don't remember if I tried go.
[05:53] <elopio> liuxg: https://plus.google.com/+St%C3%A9phaneGraber/posts/aX6vogzEQ1X
[05:54] <liuxg> elopio, could you have a try for my project? it is a very simple one.
[05:54] <liuxg> elopio, if it does not work, it won't work in my place as well.
[05:57] <elopio> liuxg: I can triage your bug tomorrow. It's already midnight and flashing my bbb takes time.
[05:58] <elopio> I've been trying to leave since your first ping :)
[05:58] <elopio> damn tests that don't want to be green.
[05:58] <liuxg> elopio, ok. many thanks. if you have any result of it, please update me :)
[05:58] <elopio> liuxg: sure, I'll comment on the bug.
[05:58] <liuxg> elopio, I am really sorry for that. have a good sleep!
[05:59] <elopio> not yet, but soon.
[05:59] <liuxg> elopio, :)
[07:19] <chiluk> Hey guys is there a how to on how to cross-arch snap?
[07:20] <chiluk> basically I'm trying to create a snap package on my amd64 machine that I'd like to put on my completely useless raspberry pi
[07:20] <chiluk> pi 2 actually.
[07:22] <chiluk> basically when I go to stage my snap it just gets created for my local architecture... as this is intended for embedded I assume you guys have this figured out already since only a small percentage of us are using arm-books
[07:22] * chiluk goes to sleep and hopes answer is awaiting him in the morning.
[07:23] <liuxg> chiluk, I just got a Chinese article for it at http://blog.csdn.net/ubuntutouch/article/details/49780767? you may use google translate for help :)
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[08:03] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:40] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[10:12] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Pizza With The Works Except Anchovies Day! 😃
[10:17] <longsleep> So, since when does Snappy wait for networking on boot, seems like i missed that. snappy-wait4network.service does block until there is a default route .. :/
[10:46] <mvo> ogra_: did you trigger a 15.04 build ? I noticed there is one running right now.
[10:47] <mvo> ogra_: i.e. I would like to start with the stable release checklist and promote the current edge to alpha so that fgimenez can start the upgrade/rollback test process
[10:50] <fgimenez> mvo, ogra_ ping me when ready
[10:53] <mvo> fgimenez: amd64 is ready in 15.04/alpha now
[10:53] <fgimenez> mvo, ok thanks, on it
[10:53] <mvo> fgimenez: great, thanks
[10:59] <mvo> fgimenez: armhf is ready in 15.04/alpha too
[11:00] <mvo> fgimenez: and i386 in some minutes
[11:01] <fgimenez> mvo, ok thanks, having them in alpha make things easier
[11:17] <ogra_> mvo, see other channel
[11:42] <fgimenez> mvo, the update -> rollback -> update -> rollback ... went well for amd64, from 16 to 17; but there are problems with the integration suite, 11 tests are failing with "Error: another snappy is running, try again later"
[11:43] <fgimenez> mvo, i think that we hit this some days ago, i'll try to find the root cause of this, maybe we can make the tests more resilient
[11:55] <mvo> thanks fgimenez, thats interessting, we did disable auto-pilot in the tests didn't we?
[11:55] <fgimenez> mvo, yes, it's disabled at the beginning of the suite after each reboot
[12:18] <fgimenez> mvo, it seems that the problem comes from https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/integration-tests/tests/autoupdate-msg_test.go, we are not stopping snappy-autopilot after the test
[12:18] <fgimenez> mvo, with that in place, and modifying the expected message, the suite seems to be running fine, i'll prepare a branch with the changes
[12:20] <mvo> fgimenez: \o/
[12:20] <mvo> fgimenez: thanks for digging and finding it!
[12:21] <fgimenez> mvo, np :) let's see if all goes fine with the suite
[12:25] <fgimenez> mvo, yes, the complete suite in amd64 is ok, i'm currently with rollback -> update -> rollback in bbb, fine too so far
[12:42] <fgimenez> mvo rollback -> update -> rollback -> update .... worked well in bbb, now running the suite
[12:58] <mvo> fgimenez: \o/
[13:23] <mvo> fgimenez: I had to do another build for the image, its now in alpha for all arches. sorry for that, I'm afarid there is a re-test required. should be virtually identical to the last one but one never knows
[13:23] <ogra_> well, we are waiting for a system-image merge, this wont be the last
[13:24] <ogra_> and we really should only copy the last one to alpha since that is supposed to be for testing satble->stable updates
[13:52] <fgimenez> mvo, ok, np
[14:14] <fgimenez> mvo, the suite works fine in amd64 #18, now trying 16 -> 18 -> 16 -> 18...
[14:15] <mvo> fgimenez: \o/
[14:21] <fgimenez> mvo, update+rollback ok too, on to bbb
[14:29] <jdstrand> beuno, pindonga: ok, there is one last change for the vendor bug. instead of pulling r545, please pull r547 (or later)
[14:46] <jdstrand> mvo: hey, https://github.com/jdstrand/snappy/pull/6 has a merge conflict
[14:50] <mvo> jdstrand: let me fix
[14:52] <dholbach> STRAW POLL: Yes/No to a bot which shares new Askubuntu questions about Snappy in this channel?
[14:53] <mvo> jdstrand: should work now, contains a bit of extra stuff because I merged master
[14:55] <ogra_> dholbach, yes
[14:56] <ogra_> (until the traffic gets high indeed)
[15:04] <jdstrand> mvo: thanks
[15:10] <fgimenez> elopio, the image validation goes good so far (suite and update+rollback on amd64), they are published in the alpha channel
[15:10] <ogra_> fgimenez, dont forget there are two more arches to test this time
[15:10] <ogra_> (once we actually have the final image)
[15:10] <elopio> fgimenez: nice, thanks.
[15:11] <elopio> ogra_: wait, why two more? not just armhf?
[15:11] <fgimenez> ogra_, plano and raspi2_armhf right?
[15:11] <ogra_> fgimenez, yeps :)
[15:11] <fgimenez> elopio, ogra_ i can go for raspi2
[15:11] <ogra_> cool
[15:11] <elopio> we don't have planos to test.
[15:12] <ogra_> we're just waiting for a final fix for system-image to actually make it pick the right device tarballs
[15:12] <elopio> the certification team has been taking care of that.
[15:12] <ogra_> right
[15:54] <ricmm> mvo: did we ever land the u-d-f branches for 128 mb and the other thing?
[15:54] <ricmm> the dst/target bit
[15:55] <ogra_> ricmm, i dont think so
[15:55] <ogra_> (or at least it didnt reach me ... my last weeks kvm image still has 64M)
[15:55] <ricmm> ok
[15:55] <ricmm> WARNING: this option should only be used to build azure images
[15:55] <ogra_> yeah
[15:55] <ogra_> ignore :P
[15:56] <ogra_> we need to get rid of that
[16:20] <longsleep> Hey, i just have the case where an snappy update did not clean up old systemd services from two snaps - so now there are the new and the old systemd service and the old fail to start - any idea what could cause this?
[16:21] <longsleep> i typed snappy update, and it updated a new ubuntu-core and two snaps in that order
[16:31] <fgimenez> elopio, the rollback test is failing on bbb 1504/alpha #17, could you please confirm? i'm going to try now the update + rollback from #15 to #17
[16:38] <elopio> fgimenez: ok, let me flash it.
[16:41] <fgimenez> elopio, there are other two errors, failover zerosize initrd (removing the check for mode=try works fine) and initramfs, but they are not related to the image
[16:46] <mvo> ricmm: hrm, the branch did not land, there was a tarmac failure. *sigh* let me fix that
[16:47] <ricmm> hurgh
[16:48] <mvo> ricmm: so the dst change landed
[16:49] <mvo> ricmm: I land the 128mb one now
[16:49] <mvo> (or try to)
[16:49] <ricmm> oh, those, I thought you meant image
[16:49] <ogra_> mvo, there might be other u-d-f issues
[16:49] <ricmm> err, snappy
[16:50] <mvo> ogra_: hm?
[16:50] <ogra_> i cant get the rpi2 to boot
[16:50] <ogra_> it looks like the error i usually get if writable doesnt contain the cloud-init files
[16:50] <ogra_> trying to verify that atm
[16:51] <ogra_> yeah, writable is completely empty for me
[16:53] <ogra_> mvo, afaik u-d-f usually puts the cloud-init stuff there when creating the img
[16:55] <mvo> ogra_: uh, so thats a regression? but it was not released in a while iirc
[16:55] <ogra_> yeah, thats werid
[16:55] <ogra_> i dont understand that
[17:06] <elopio> fgimenez: having problems here. The serial console only prints Cs. Have you seen that?
[17:06] <elopio> trying again...
[17:09] <fgimenez> elopio, nope, here works fine
[17:11] <jdstrand> mvo: I'm unable to install docker with your branch
[17:17] <elopio> tried 17 and 18, with two different bbb, two different sd cards.
[17:17] <elopio> damn it, what did I break?
[17:20] <fgimenez> elopio, 18? the tip of 1504/alpha is 17, right?
[17:21] <elopio> fgimenez: ahhhh, stupid. I'm flashing 18 amd64...
[17:21] <elopio> not enough breakfast today.
[17:22] <fgimenez> ahh those Cs are pretty significant :)
[17:28] <fgimenez> elopio, 15 -> 17 -> 15 -> 17 -> 15 ... works fine, btw i've confirmed that snappy_mode doesn't change after snappy update http://paste.ubuntu.com/13240185/
[17:32] <fgimenez> leaving, have a nice day o/
[17:41] <kyrofa> So say I'm developing an app to be packaged in a .snap and I'm running into apparmor denials when installed. Is there a Snappy way to debug this? Normally I'd just set it to complain mode, but ubuntu-core-launcher is the thing enforcing the profile...
[17:42] <jdstrand> kyrofa: snappy install snappy-debug, then run in one console 'sudo snappy-debug.security scanlog' while exercising your app in another
[17:42] <kyrofa> Ooo! Thanks jdstrand
[17:44] <jdstrand> dpm_: fyi, that ^ is the sorta thing I'd love to point people to when the 15.04 developer doc is available (see snappy-app-devel@, 'Adding custom apparmor rules' thread (I was talking with dholbach, but he is eod now I guess))
[17:45] <dpm_> jdstrand, there is an easy way to point people at this in the meantime: why not make it an ask ubuntu question?
[17:46] <jdstrand> dpm_: well, sure, but the larger point isn't that specific question, but that we need the 15.04 dev doc out there so people can tie everything together
[17:47] <plars> mvo: Hi, are there any details regarding the changes to core images that gustavo mentioned in his email?
[17:47] <plars> mvo: I'd like to know sooner than later if they will break our automated provisioning in any way
[17:48] <dpm_> jdstrand, gotcha, I hadn't seen the thread until now, now I can see the context of the question
[17:58] <ogra_> mvo, triggering a new 15.04 edge build for a fixed raspi2 device tarball
[18:10] <rickspencer3> jdstrand, hi, I am trying to run fsweb from a snap on my rpi2 and bbb, and fsweb says that it doesn't have permissions to open /dev/video0
[18:10] <rickspencer3> does this look right for hw-assign?: sudo snappy hw-assign rest-cam.sideload /dev/video0
[18:10] <jdstrand> rickspencer3: yes
[18:12] <jdstrand> I actually have to step away for an appt. if you have other questions, please feel free to ask tyhicks (or ask me and I'll answer when I get back)
[18:13] <rickspencer3> will do
[18:20] <mvo> plars: d you use ubuntu-device-flash? if so, you may not need anything, or maybe change the parameters how u-d-f is called slightly the details are not fixed yet. essentially you need to tell it what os and kernel you want
[18:20] <mvo> ogra_: ta
[18:32] * ogra_ twiddles thumbs waiting for the importer
[18:36] * genii makes sure ogra_ has enough coffee to stay awake
[18:36] <ogra_> hah, always :)
[18:40] <plars> mvo: yes, I do use udf, but just wondering if there were details yet
[18:42] <mvo> plars: we may make it transparent
[18:42] <mvo> plars: i.e. the gadget snap defines kernel/os so for you nothing changes
[19:02] <ogra_> sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --oem pi2.canonical --channel edge --enable-ssh --device raspi2_armhf -o rpi.img 15.04
[19:02] <ogra_> ...
[19:02] <ogra_> Summary:
[19:02] <ogra_> Output: rpi.img
[19:02] <ogra_> Architecture: armhf
[19:02] <ogra_> Channel: edge
[19:02] <ogra_> Version: 59
[19:02] <ogra_> \o/
[19:03] <elopio> \o/
[19:04] <genii> Hm
[19:10] <ogra_> (RaspberryPi2)ubuntu@localhost:~$ snappy list
[19:10] <ogra_> Name Date Version Developer
[19:10] <ogra_> ubuntu-core 2015-11-12 59 ubuntu
[19:10] <ogra_> pi2 2015-11-12 0.16 canonical
[19:11] <ogra_> and it BOOTS !
[19:11] <ogra_> ok, rpi stable is ready for consumption :)
[19:20] <elopio> ogra_: stable?
[19:20] <ogra_> mvo, elopio, i just copied the raspi2 59 edge image to alpha for testing
[19:20] <ogra_> alpha 3 is all yours :)
[19:20] <elopio> ok.
[19:20] <ogra_> yeah, stable
[19:21] <ogra_> i'm not sure if rollback to 2 will or should work, given the images have been produced quite differently
[19:22] <ogra_> (but you can try indeed and all future images should support rollback/install)
[19:27] <mvo> ogra_: worth re-testing the other ones too, just in case?
[19:27] * jdstrand -> back
[19:28] <ogra_> mvo, well, they shouldnt have any changes, but sure
[19:50] <mvo> ogra_: did you promote the current candidates (latest build) to alpha?
[19:52] <mvo> ogra_: nevermind, I just did that
[19:53] <mvo> elopio: if you could do a validation of alpha that would be great, I just promoted the latest build from ogra to alpha, if all is looking good I will promote to stable later tonight or tomorrow morning
[19:53] <elopio> mvo: I'm on it.
[19:53] <ogra_> mvo, oops, not yet
[19:54] <ogra_> thanks !
[19:55] <mvo> elopio: thanks! keep me updated :)
[19:55] <elopio> mvo: sure. Testing rpi alpha #3 now.
[21:22] <kyrofa> jdstrand, snappy-debug only seems to work if apparmor is in audit mode... is that right?
[21:22] <kyrofa> jdstrand, is there a reason for that?
[21:24] <kyrofa> jdstrand, I don't know a ton about apparmor, but I needed to change the regex "audit: type=1400 audit" to just "type=1400 audit" . After that, life-saver tool man
[21:27] <jjohansen> kyrofa: where is that regex?
[21:28] <kyrofa> jjohansen, snappy-security-scanlog line 77
[21:28] <jdstrand> kyrofa: oh, interesting
[21:28] <jdstrand> kyrofa: what kernel is this on?
[21:28] <jjohansen> kyrofa: ah, okay /me is not familiar with that tool, but it really shouldn't be directly scanning the log
[21:29] <jdstrand> jjohansen: it uses libapparmor but it filters slightly to grab just the seccomp and apparmor stuff
[21:29] <jjohansen> jdstrand: doesn't really matter, that change isn't a kernel thing
[21:30] <jdstrand> oh I guess not
[21:30] <jdstrand> I'll update the tool
[21:30] <kyrofa> jdstrand, jjohansen before I lead you on a wild goose chase, this is part of the effort to get snaps running on the current phone image, so it may very well be a difference there
[21:30] <jjohansen> jdstrand: ah
[21:32] <jjohansen> kyrofa: not so much a wild goose chase, as a log prefixing issue that has been seen before in different configs
[21:32] <jjohansen> so its not just a phone issue
[21:32] <kyrofa> jjohansen, ah, good deal. Yeah perhaps making that regex a little less specific would be good, then
[21:33] <jdstrand> that is what I'm working on now
[21:33] <kyrofa> Thanks jdstrand :)
[21:34] <jjohansen> jdstrand: I am not sure a prefilter at this level is worth it
[21:37] <jdstrand> jjohansen: we need to choose between seccomp and apparmor and we do that by looking for the regex. but, we can just do ' type=1400 ' and ' type=1326 '
[21:37] <jdstrand> rather than having the 'audit' bits around it
[21:38] <jjohansen> jdstrand: obviously doesn't know about the subversive plans to bring seccomp log parsing into libapparmor
[21:39] <jdstrand> heh
[21:40] <jdstrand> kyrofa: would you mind testing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13241898/
[21:40] <jjohansen> but sure, what ever you need
[21:40] <kyrofa> jdstrand, doing now
[21:44] <kyrofa> jdstrand, the spaces are an issue. Here's a typical log for me: [ 7486.263143]type=1400 audit(1447364595.911:238): apparmor="DENIED"
[21:44] <jdstrand> huh
[21:44] <jdstrand> ok
[21:45] <jdstrand> kyrofa: guessing this'll do the trick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13241961/
[21:47] <kyrofa> jdstrand, bingo! Works great
[21:49] <jdstrand> kyrofa: ok, snappy update should get you 0.5 with the fix
[21:50] <kyrofa> jdstrand, best service in the business
[21:50] <jdstrand> hehe
[21:50] <jdstrand> welcome to snappy :)
[21:50] <kyrofa> Thanks : )
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-za
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[04:32] <anton> monrings all
[05:04] <pieter2627> morning all
[05:50] <magespawn> good morning
[06:01] <pieter2627> hi magespawn
[06:09] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:15] <pieter2627> hi thatgraemeguy
[08:11] <inetpro> goeie dag mense
[08:21] <anton> dag sê
[08:45] <Squirm> Heya
[08:59] * Squirm lewks around
[09:07] <Sxuza> ppl are quiet around here today
[09:35] <Squirm> Sxuza: Seems like it
[09:45] <magespawn> good morning
[10:24] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[10:42] <magespawn> hi there Kilos
[10:49] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[12:07] <magespawn> whats up Kilos?
[12:08] <Kilos> when im awake im trying to get online banking sorted and trying to get a three months statement fro absa
[12:09] <Kilos> what a schlep
[12:10] <Kilos> they have some estatement thing but that will only show next month and i want a statement now
[12:10] <Kilos> whats up your side magespawn ?
[12:23] <melodie> hi
[12:35] <qwebirc80092> help
[12:36] <melodie> hello
[12:36] <melodie> what's up qwebirc80092 ? can you ask a question ? :D
[12:36] <qwebirc80092> Ah ha, there be life on the screen..... greets.
[12:36] <melodie> irl too ;)
[12:37] <qwebirc80092> I have no official login, new to IRC etc.
[12:37] <melodie> sure np
[12:37] <melodie> how can I help you?
[12:37] <qwebirc80092> how come so many "lugs" are dead?
[13:07] <magespawn> Hey Kilos, not much really, same old same old really, busy putting a printer back together after repairing one of the parts
[13:17] <melodie> hi Kilos Cryterion magespawn
[13:18] <magespawn> hi melodie
[13:18] <melodie> I didn't know a printer could be repaired
[13:21] <magespawn> some parts can be, this was just a mechanical lever that when you close the printer door it operates a switch to let the printer know
[13:22] <magespawn> that the door is closed
[13:22] <magespawn> most people buy cheap printers, so it is often more cost effective to buy new ones
[13:24] <melodie> ok
[13:29] <magespawn> i have a habit of trying to repair equipment where i can, i do not like the throw away attitude that seems to be normal
[13:30] <Kilos> hi melodie
[13:30] <Kilos> i have the same prob magespawn
[13:31] <Kilos> hate throwing away stuff that can be repaired or use for spares for the next faulty thing
[13:33] <melodie> same here, and I didn't imagine people in African countries throwing whatever item which can get fixed
[13:36] <Kilos> yeah we like to fix things
[13:37] <Kilos> also money is tight for buying new stuff all the time
[13:39] <melodie> this is why some people create alternative monies
[13:39] <melodie> local money to help trading locally between the people
[13:55] <magespawn> chat later, home time for me
[13:57] <Kilos> go safe magespawn
[14:40] <Squirm> thatgraemeguy:
[14:40] <Squirm> ?
[15:54] <magespawn> good evening
[17:53] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[17:54] <Kilos> evening other peeps too
[17:54] <Kilos> ill be slow
[17:56] <inetpro> haai oom Kilos
[17:58] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[17:59] <inetpro> hoekom jy stadig wil wees?
[17:59] <Kilos> ek skype my meisies
[18:02] <inetpro> ah, ek sien
[18:02] <inetpro> al is dit net met een oog wat nie meer mooi wil sien nie
[18:04] <melodie> hi inetpro
[18:05] <inetpro> Hi melodie, all still good there?
[18:06] <melodie> inetpro yes thks!
[18:06] <melodie> you?
[18:06] <inetpro> all good thanks, just hot and tired after another busy day
[18:07] <melodie> ok
[18:07] <melodie> please have a look here, and if you agree on the idea, please pass on the message around you:
[18:07] <melodie> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-icon-theme/+question/274092
[18:08] <inetpro> will check a bit later
[18:10] <melodie> brb
[18:10] <melodie> ok!
[18:19] <inetpro> melodie: hmm... interesting, but how do we address bandwidth waste at another level?
[18:20] <melodie> inetpro adress : we make bug reports against unnecessary depends?
[18:20] <melodie> I did one here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1510709
[18:20] <inetpro> all these autoplay videos on Facebook, YouTube and other solcial media :-)
[18:21] <inetpro> social*
[18:21] <melodie> just today I finally found which package is the cause, I'll install debian netinstall in one of my laptops and build on it
[18:21] <melodie> inetpro we can't adress them all, however the social media often face greenpeace for that matter
[18:22] <inetpro> and all these automatic updates of modern operating systems, a huge problem for us with the small pipes
[18:30] <melodie> you mean Windows 7 for instance?
[18:30] <melodie> because with Ubuntu (or other distros btw) you can set it up to your liking
[18:31] <inetpro> not just windows, everyone seems to be guilty these days
[18:31] <inetpro> many updates are often not really necessary
[18:31] <inetpro> Android is particularly bad as well
[18:32] <inetpro> it's a tough problem when security issues need to be patched asap
[18:35] <inetpro> personally I know how to deal with the issues and how to reduce bandwidth and all but most end users simply don't want to deal with it and live with the defaults
[18:35] <melodie> security patches are one thing, icon themes and gtk themes are what I will be targetting for some days from now on
[18:36] * inetpro likes the idea to slim it down
[18:48] <magespawn> i tend to have a look through what it wants to update and decide from there
[19:53] <Kilos> hot last couple of days hey inetpro
[19:53] <Kilos> looks like the big drought is here
[20:08] <inetpro> big time
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-classroom
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[19:16] <Cantthink> anyone there
[19:24] <genii> Cantthink: This channel is for when there are teaching presentations going on, currently there are none. for support, the #ubuntu channel is best
[19:27] <Cantthink> oh thank you. im trying to click the link for classroom chat an its not working when do you have lessons
[20:11] <genii> Cantthink: The schedule is at http://is.gd/8rtIi
[20:11] <genii> ( as per the channel topic )
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2015-11-12-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:11] <valorie> hmmm, that's a lotta red there
[00:45] <sgclark> git-clone-all barfs on me (publickey)
[02:12] <ahoneybun> valorie: the support page used to have oxygen icons but I've switched them to the ones from breeze
[08:30] <sitter> talk about an angry jenkins
[08:32] <sitter> sgclark, yofel: there may or may not be a bug in lintian KCI-E :: E: libkf5i18n5: postinst-must-call-ldconfig usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5I18n.so.5.16.0
[08:32] <sitter> I don't think that error makes sense for a multiarch path
[09:58] <yofel> Version 1.18 of xorg-server has been released. New features include support for XRandR 1.5 and improvements to support for NVIDIA's Optimus hardware.
[09:58] <yofel> why do I feal uneasy when I read "improvements" ...
[10:10] <soee> yofel: will it land in 15.10 or onyl 16.04 ?
[10:11] <yofel> latter obviously. But I guess you can get it from edgers for wily. Haven't looked
[10:11] * soee wonders if he should touch anything now when nvidia works ...
[10:15] <nluxton> soee: don't do it! ;)
[10:15] <yofel> I'll second that
[10:16] <ghostcube> never touch nvidia if it works
[10:25] <lordievader> Hehe
[10:27] <Mamarok> I was thinking about that issue the Brazilians have: there mightr not be a Kubuntu Brazil (yet) but there vertainly is a very thriving KDE Brazil community over there, so that might be a path to explore :)
[10:27] <Mamarok> sick_rimmit: they speak Portugese in Brazil, not Spanish
[11:43] <clivejo> Mamarok: looks like they have had a Kubuntu BR website for quite some time at http://www.kubuntu.com.br/ which was taken down recently
[11:54] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[11:56] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hey clivejo
[12:46] <clivejo> On http://kci.pangea.pub/ xenial FIX, where is the xenial_unstable coming from?
[12:46] <clivejo> sitter, Riddell, yofel ^^
[12:47] <sitter> question does not compute
[12:47] <yofel> kubuntu_unstable built for xenial
[12:47] <clivejo> what packaging is it using?
[12:47] <yofel> kubuntu_unstable ^^
[12:47] <clivejo> ah
[12:55] <clivejo> can I start trying to fix some of these?
[12:55] <yofel> go ahead
[12:55] <yofel> I think most are dependency issues
[13:06] <clivejo> I put changes in kubuntu_unstables and it auto merges with stable when succussful?
[13:10] <yofel> clivejo: -dust/21
[13:10] <yofel> huh
[13:10] <sgclark> morning
[13:10] <yofel> clivejo: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Branches
[13:10] <yofel> moin
[13:12] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:18] <clivejo> yofel: sorry Im not explaining myself, a lot of these errors on KCI are lintian errors, caused by the git version numbers ie "E: systemsettings source: debian-revision-should-not-be-zero 4:5.4.3+git20151112.0613+16.04-0" I can add a override but where does that go?
[13:21] * clivejo goes to find some food
[13:23] <shadeslayer> clivejo: that should be in the parsing rules
[13:23] <shadeslayer> to ignore those
[13:28] <yofel> right, that should not be the source of red
[13:33] <sgclark> I thought we were nuking vivid
[13:34] <sgclark> sitter: ^^
[13:37] <yofel> now you nuked the bot instead XD
[13:49] <sgclark> hmm postinst-must-call-ldconfig seems important, but I don't recall having to make posinst files in frameworks before. Anything else that can cause this yofel?
[13:50] <sgclark> or fi it for that matter
[13:50] <sgclark> fix
[13:50] <yofel> AFAIK this only happens when you embed a lib in an application package
[13:50] <yofel> which is why the debian team just added lintian overrides
[13:50] <yofel> maxyz: right? ^
[13:52] <yofel> for lib packages dh_makeshlibs seems to automatically add an ldconfig call to postinst
[13:53] <sgclark> that is what I read on google, so it must be true.
[13:54] <sgclark> this particular package is only libs
[13:54] <yofel> which one?
[13:54] <sgclark> kdsssn
[13:54] <sgclark> err kdssn
[13:54] <sgclark> kf5
[13:55] <soee> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-now-has-two-release-managers-after-jonathan-riddell-s-departure-496070.shtml
[13:55] <yofel> oh, someone actually read my mail ^^
[13:55] <sgclark> libkf5dnssd5
[13:56] <sgclark> heh
[14:02] <yofel> ok, something did change. The auto-generated postinst script is missing
[14:04] <yofel> 0 * dh_makeshlibs: Use a noawait trigger to invoke ldconfig
[14:04] <yofel> 1 rather maintscripts.
[14:04] <yofel> what the hell is a noawait trigger
[14:06] <yofel> OTOH, using triggers is probably a good idea here
[14:12] <sgclark> unless it doesn't trigger? is that what I am understanding?
[14:12] <yofel> no, the trigger is there
[14:12] <yofel> I still need to look at lintian, but I believe our lintian version is outdated
[14:13] <yofel> we're 2 patch versions behind debian
[14:13] <yofel> yep, we have .36, fixed in .37
[14:13] <yofel> sgclark: so, ignore it for now
[14:14] <sgclark> ok
[14:14] <yofel> https://tracker.debian.org/news/712258 for reference
[14:14] <sgclark> thanks
[14:57] <sgclark> yofel: I am trying to ignore but CI will remain red until it is fixed. Anything I can do? if not I do need to attend to my kde hat anyway.
[14:58] <yofel> sgclark: I asked Laney if he plans to merge lintian or whether I can do it, so for now, lets wait
[14:58] <sgclark> ok np
[14:58] <yofel> although, I might just merge it in the evening and wait for his response after that ^^
[14:59] <yofel> and I need to revive my blog
[14:59] <yofel> and I need to blog about merging
[14:59] <yofel> did I mention that my todo list is too long?
[15:02] <sgclark> yofel: I hear yah. Mine is miles long.
[15:13] <yofel> so, Laney will take care of the proper merge
[15:13] <yofel> I'll upload a quick hack to the PPA then
[15:23] <shadeslayer> can someone add me to the limux attendees list
[15:24] <yofel> let me try
[15:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: I land at 9 so I'll probably come to the venue late on Friday night
[15:24] <shadeslayer> at 10 ish
[15:26] <sgclark> I land at 8am so I will be wandering the streets of Munich for some hours lol
[15:26] <shadeslayer> too damn cold to be wandering the streets of Munich
[15:26] <sgclark> at least I can pack light as it is only a few days
[15:26] <shadeslayer> I did that last time
[15:26] <shadeslayer> it is seriously too damn cold
[15:26] <sgclark> oh? how cold?
[15:27] <sgclark> packing warm then, thanks for the warning!
[15:27] <yofel> probably around 0-15°C, hard to say now
[15:27] <sgclark> ahh I can survive that
[15:27] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/l/GMXX0087:1:GM
[15:27] <shadeslayer> sgclark: ^
[15:28] <shadeslayer> trying to figure out how to change silly units to proper units
[15:28] <yofel> same ^^
[15:28] <shadeslayer> ok 9-13 is the forecast
[15:28] <shadeslayer> yofel: the gear top right
[15:28] <sgclark> same weather as here. I can survive :)
[15:28] <yofel> aaah
[15:28] <yofel> shadeslayer: added
[15:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: it takes an hour to get from the Airport to the city center
[15:29] <yofel> oops, right
[15:30] <yofel> fixed
[15:30] <shadeslayer> Drinks on Friday night?
[15:31] <shadeslayer> sitter: ^^
[15:31] <yofel> I would assume so
[15:31] <shadeslayer> when I get in
[15:31] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:31] <shadeslayer> don't leave without me
[15:31] <sgclark> sounds good to me
[15:35] <sgclark> oh thank goodness, my phone will work in Munich. At least I can wander with GPS.
[15:39] <yofel> well, the venue is pretty easy to find as long as you look for that lime-green goethe institute banner (streetview has the place). The hotel is pretty near around the corner
[15:40] <shadeslayer> the hotel is right around the corner indeed
[15:41] <shadeslayer> actually, that's the only hotel I'm going to be ever staying in whenever I go to Munich
[15:41] <shadeslayer> I booked something last time and it was on a totally creepy street
[15:41] <shadeslayer> *something different
[16:15] <maxyz> yofel: I've been away for most of the day. the overrides are usually added for the kdeinit hacks, that one is probably wrongly triggered by the outdated lintian.
[16:15] <yofel> right, we did figure that out in the end. Thanks
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[02:38] <Murilo> boa noite
[02:39] <Murilo> tento usar comando apt-get pelo terminal mas parece que nao encontra nenhum pacote, utilizo o ubuntu 14.10, deve-se ao fato que foi descontinuado
[02:40] <astroo-> ola
[02:40] <Murilo> Ola
[02:44] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[02:51] <oliverio> Murilo, qual sua dúvida?
[02:53] <Murilo> Entao oliverio, desde ontem tento instalar programas tanto pela central de programas quanto pelo terminal usando apt-get, mas da erro de pacote e fala pra eu verificcar minha conexao com a internet, uso o ubuntu 14.10
[02:54] <Murilo> é como se eu estivesse offline
[02:55] <Murilo> Ja tentei varias coisas que pesquisei, meu ultimo recurso estou baixando o 14.04 pra instalar e ve se é isso
[03:06] <oliverio> Murilo, cola o erro em algum pastebin pra mim
[03:06] <Murilo> Desculpa, sou iniciante nao sei o que é pastebin
[03:07] <astroo-> 1 site para por informaçao
[03:09] <Murilo> Entendi. Desculpa oliverio estou no windows terminando de baixar a imagem do ubuntu 14.04 falta 15min ai do reboot e logo do linux e mando aqui
[03:09] <Murilo> se nao puder esperar nao tem problema
[03:32] <hggdh> Murilo: 14.10 não mais é suportada (desde Julho 2015).
[03:33] <Murilo> Entao amigo, mas ate 2 semanas atras estava conseguindo fazer downloads de app pelo terminal normalmente
[03:33] <Murilo> Ja volto, vou dar reboot
[03:38] <Murilo> Aqui oliverio o link http://pastebin.com/VH4R8qkZ
[03:39] <hggdh> Murilo: sudo apt-get update
[03:40] <Murilo> vou fazer aqui ja mando
[03:42] <Murilo> aqui hggdh http://pastebin.com/6ms5xY06
[03:43] <hggdh> Murilo: como j;a disse, Utopic (14.10) não mais é suportada.
[03:44] <Murilo> vou instalar o 14.04 aqui, obrigado pela ajuda
[03:44] <Murilo> qualquer coisa eu volto. boa noite
[04:18] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[04:18] <hertz> o/~
[04:18] <astroo-> ate
[10:02] <elisboa> bom dia
[12:46] <shallwe> bom dia galera
[12:46] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :)?
[12:50] <shallwe> mirqui, basta estar vivo e respirando pra estar bem :)
[12:51] <mirqui> com certeza cara :)
[12:51] <mirqui> isso que serve :)
[12:51] <ftonello> Alguém sabe como instalar o gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin no Ubuntu 15.10?
[12:51] <ftonello> Não existe mais esse pacote lá, e preciso dele.
[12:51] <shallwe> ftonello, vc habilitou os pacotes de terceiros?
[12:52] <mirqui> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gstreamer-developers/ppa
[12:52] <mirqui> sudo apt-get update
[12:52] <mirqui> sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0*
[12:52] <ftonello> Sim
[12:53] <shallwe> ftonello, eu uso o mpv
[12:53] <ftonello> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gstreamer-developers/ppa/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
[12:53] <shallwe> mas o que mirqui falou também pode ser
[12:53] <ftonello> Eu preciso pq estou desenvolvendo um programa usando a API do gstreamer, mas preciso de um decoder H.264
[12:53] <shallwe> ftonello, já instalou o ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[12:54] <ftonello> já
[12:54] <mirqui> se der erro tenta um sudo apt-get install -f
[12:54] <shallwe> ftonello, que estranho deixa eu testar aqui pra ver se ta rolando
[12:54] <ftonello> já instalei tudo que dá pelos metodos convencionais. o gstreamer-ffmpeg não foi empacotado para as versões 15, eu acho.
[12:54] <shallwe> a ta é o 15.10
[12:55] <shallwe> é que quando é novo tem que mudar tudo, mas uma opção certa seria baixar o deb e forçar a instalação então
[12:55] <ftonello> Eu baixei o deb, mas depende numas coisas antigas que quebra o local
[12:56] <shallwe> ftonello, esse é o problema de versões recentes do ubuntu
[12:56] <shallwe> eu recomendo fortemente ubuntu 14.04 se é pra trabalho
[12:57] <shallwe> ftonello, uma última opção é compilar ele na sua máquina então
[12:57] <shallwe> e outra o gstreamer-ffmpeg é antigo, já existem substitutos pra ele faz tempo
[12:58] <shallwe> estou vendo que o source não é alterado desde 2012 !
[13:00] <shallwe> o único bug que encontrei no ubuntu 14.04 foi quando vc já está com o nautilus aberto, ai clica em cima do ícone pra ele vir pra cima e ele abre outro nautilus kkk
[13:00] <mirqui> fala enfon
[13:00] <mirqui> elfon
[13:01] <mirqui> cara , estou numa sinuca de bico
[13:01] <Elfon> diz ae
[13:01] <mirqui> tudo bem ?
[13:01] <mirqui> bom
[13:02] <mirqui> dizem que virus para linux não ecxiste , mas acho que cheguei perto de pegar um ou peguei e não sei como largar
[13:02] <mirqui> o rk hunter acusou
[13:02] <mirqui> e escaneei com o clamav e deu um virus de windows, exploit e um pacotescript
[13:03] <Elfon> mirqui: até onde sei só se for um rootkit
[13:03] <mirqui> tentei deletar pelo antivirus , mas como é no sistema ele não tem permição
[13:03] <Elfon> pra um vírus de windows infectar a máquina ele tem q rodar com wine e com permissões de admin
[13:03] <mirqui> e o pior
[13:04] <mirqui> sim , jogo em rede com minha mãe , usando o wine
[13:04] <mirqui> mas não dei permição de adm
[13:04] <Elfon> mirqui: de modo geral o wine é executado como usuário...então não tem problema para o sistema
[13:04] <mirqui> só quando instalei o wine
[13:04] <Elfon> no pior cenário seria algum problema na home do usuário
[13:05] <mirqui> e o pacote script
[13:05] <mirqui> não sei qual a intenção
[13:05] <mirqui> se ele apareceiu no rkhunter e no clamav , boa coisa não é
[13:05] <Elfon> mirqui: tenta localizar o arquivo e deleta ele...se for o caso abre o nautilus como admin
[13:06] <mirqui> e como faço isto?
[13:07] <mirqui> o pior vc não sabe , estes dois resistiram a formatação do sistema
[13:07] <mirqui> achei mais estranho ainda
[13:07] <Elfon> mirqui: primeiro vc tem q saber qual o arquivo e a localização
[13:08] <Elfon> depois vai no terminal e executa sudo nautilus
[13:08] <mirqui> tenho o caminho deles
[13:08] <Elfon> aí vc pode apagar o que quiser...mas cuidado
[13:08] <mirqui> ok , vou ver
[13:08] <mirqui> não , vou tomar cuidado
[13:08] <mirqui> vou ver
[13:08] <Elfon> mas verifica se não é um arquivo de sistema
[13:09] <mirqui> ele é de sistema , não está na home , isso procede?
[13:10] <Elfon> o estranho é como afetou um arquivo do sistema se vc disse que o wine so roda em modo usuário
[13:10] <Elfon> qual o caminho do arquivo?
[13:10] <mirqui> espera
[13:11] <mirqui> o do windows é
[13:11] <mirqui> /usr/share/mime.cache
[13:11] <mirqui> o script é
[13:13] <mirqui> /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/doc/generador/tempate/darkfish
[13:13] <mirqui> e por ai vai
[13:14] <mirqui> e ai , que vc aconselha?
[13:22] <aedigital> upa
[13:29] <mirqui> elfon , deixei uma pasta na lixeira , como que eu faço para deletar?
[13:30] <mirqui> o virus de windows já deletei
[14:19] <lorival> estou seguindo os passos de um vídeo p/ instalar o win no virtual box só q na hora q clico p/ iniciar aparece: Falha para abrir uma sessão para a máquina virtual Win 8.1 (64-bit)
[14:19] <lorival> tem uma aba p/ detalhes
[14:19] <lorival> pq ocorreu esse erro?
[14:21] <aedigital> usou sudo?
[14:21] <aedigital> as vezes pode ser as permissoes
[14:22] <lorival> ñ...
[14:22] <lorival> apenas instalei pela central
[14:23] <lorival> no vídeo ainda fala de umas extensões do programa, mas na central só mostrou o programa mesmo
[14:23] <lorival> o q faço?
[14:25] <rafael> lorival: acho que está bem confusa sua dúvida. Mas de qualquer forma, já olhou na documentação do VirtualBox se há suporte para Win8? Você instalou corretamente? Removeu a imagem da inicialização?
[14:26] <aedigital> outra sua maquina eh 32 bits ou 64 bits?
[14:27] <lorival> a minha é 64
[14:27] <lorival> a imagem iso q baixei é 64 (do win), mas no programa só aparece versões 32... esse pode ser o problema né?
[14:28] <aedigital> e o virtual box instalado eh a versao pra 64?
[14:28] <shallwe> lorival, o virtualbox da central é opensource, recomendo baixar do link deles
[14:28] <shallwe> lorival, https://www.virtualbox.org/
[14:28] <aedigital> lorival acredito que possa ser devido a msg de erro
[14:28] <rafael> lorival: a versão do seu sistema operacional é 64bits?
[14:29] <shallwe> lorival, depois que instalado o virtualbox instala o VirtualBox 5.0.10 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack
[14:29] <lorival> na central ñ fala na sobre...
[14:29] <aedigital> pelo que entendi, ideal seria usar um ubuntu 64, virtual box 64
[14:29] <lorival> rafael, sim, é 64
[14:29] <rafael> lorival: virtualização não é mágica, muitas vezes o servidor de virtualização pode não funcionar corretamente com alguns SOs.
[14:30] <shallwe> instala direto do site, não usa da central
[14:31] <lorival> então devo desinstalar o q tá?
[14:31] <lorival> e o espaço de HD q já foi consumido eu o uso com o próximo certo?
[14:31] <shallwe> lorival, eu recomendo, tenho aqui instalado e funciona blz
[14:32] <shallwe> lorival, tira o que tem e instala esse, acho que já vai ficar tudo como estava do windows etc
[14:32] <shallwe> mas recomendo que busque a documentação do virtualbox pra maiores detalhes ou mesmo no site
[14:33] <shallwe> pois tem que fazer instalação dos packs usb etc
[14:33] <lorival> hum... certo
[14:33] <lorival> do site q vc enviou eu baixo esse: VirtualBox 5.0.10 do Linux para os anfitriões, certo?
[14:34] <shallwe> não sei o que é isto de anfitrioes o site está em ingles
[14:35] <shallwe> vc vai baixar o virtualbox for linux hosts
[14:36] <rafael> anfintriões significa uma tradução errada de hosts
[14:36] <lorival> ée isso, foi o google chrome q traduziu
[14:37] <shallwe> lol
[14:39] <aedigital> hehehe
[14:45] <lorival> shallwe, consegui instalar... agora tem alguma coisa de oracle é?
[14:46] <lorival> no site, abaixo da versão q consegui tem alguns comandos, devo executá-los?
[14:47] <shallwe> lorival, tem que instalar o outro que te falei
[14:47] <shallwe> quando instalar o virtual box só executar o outro arquivo, ele irá isntalar sozinho é um ícone verde
[14:48] <lorival> certo, ver se acho p/ instalar aqui
[14:50] <lorival> achei :)
[14:50] <lorival> vou instalar
[14:53] <R3nan> cachorro ?
[14:53] <lorival> shallwe, terminou...
[14:53] <lorival> agora pode seguir normal?
[14:53] <lorival> na aba versão, ainda aparece versões 32 bit
[14:54] <lorival> tenho q baixar uma iso nessa versão né?
[14:54] <shallwe> lorival, agora o resto é com vc até aqui te ajudei
[14:54] <shallwe> instalação de windows nele é com vc
[14:54] <lorival> hum, vlw
[14:55] <lorival> ainda continua aparecendo a mesma caixa de erro
[16:55] <De_> Outros estão tendo problemas com o idioma portugues?
[17:21] <PauloHenriqueNev> oi
[17:21] <PauloHenriqueNev> boa tarde
[17:26] <PauloHenriqueNev> queria saber se fiz uma coisa certa,instalei o flash player usando o sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[17:26] <PauloHenriqueNev> esta certo
[17:26] <PauloHenriqueNev> ou n
[17:39] <shallwe> PauloHenriqueNev, boa tarde
[17:40] <shallwe> vc instalou o ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:40] <shallwe> lá vem junto o flash , java etc
[17:42] <PauloHenriqueNev> não instalei,eu to usando o lubuntu por ser leve
[17:42] <PauloHenriqueNev> tem como colocar isso
[18:05] <tiago_> olá
[18:05] <tiago_> não consigo realizar downloads pelo ubunto software center
[18:05] <tiago_> diz que é para verificar conexão com a internet
[18:06] <tiago_> olá
[18:06] <tiago_> alguem ai?
[18:17] <tiago_> ello
[18:17] * tiago_ slaps Cesar_Augusto around a bit with a large fishbot
[18:17] * tiago_ slaps Cesar_Augusto around a bit with a large fishbot
[18:18] <Gambit15> oi
[18:19] <Gambit15> tiago_, você tem certeza que tem uma conexão ao internet então?
[18:19] <Gambit15> Consegue ping google.com?
[18:19] <tiago_> sim
[18:19] <tiago_> eu entro
[18:19] <tiago_> em facebook
[18:19] <tiago_> e vários sites
[18:19] <edenc> consegue pingar o mirror que você escolheu?
[18:20] <Gambit15> Talvez tem um problema na conexão para o seu repositorio
[18:20] <tiago_> eu sou novato
[18:20] <tiago_> ja segui varios tutorias
[18:20] <tiago_> nenhum resolveu
[18:21] <tiago_> oque é melhor em em programas e ataualizações deixar main server ou brasil server?
[18:21] <Gambit15> Consegue pingar br.archive.ubuntu.com?
[18:21] <tiago_> vou testar agora
[18:21] <Gambit15> Brasil deve ser o mais rápido
[18:22] <tiago_> consigo sim
[18:22] <tiago_> ttl = 53
[18:22] <tiago_> media de 44 ms
[18:23] <Gambit15> Abrir o menu do "start" (não sei que chama no Ubuntu) e buscar "sources"
[18:24] <Gambit15> Desculpa, só uso no servidores, então não conheci bem o interface
[18:24] <Gambit15> achou algo?
[18:24] <tiago_> achei
[18:25] <tiago_> o sourchs
[18:25] <tiago_> sources
[18:25] <tiago_> copia e cola?
[18:25] <Gambit15> Não
[18:25] <Gambit15> Qual endereço tá aí?
[18:25] <tiago_> primeira linha > # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[18:25] <Gambit15> não esse
[18:25] <Gambit15> continua
[18:26] <Gambit15> Tem uma lista numa aba na janela la
[18:26] <edenc> tiago_: pastebin.com
[18:26] <Gambit15> Fontes
[18:27] <tiago_> tudo que tem no bloco de texto
[18:27] <tiago_> é oque eu vou mandar a seguir
[18:27] <tiago_> ((((( # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team. ## N.B. software from this
[18:27] <tiago_> acho que não pode ir tudo
[18:27] <Gambit15> Não manda aqui!
[18:27] <Gambit15> pastebin.com
[18:29] <tiago_> http://pastebin.com/xW2uk54C
[18:30] <Gambit15> Isso não é o arquivo inteiro...
[18:31] <Gambit15> Vamos fazer um teste num outro jeito
[18:31] <Gambit15> Abrir o terminal
[18:32] <Gambit15> no terminal, executa o seguinte...
[18:32] <Gambit15> sudo apt-get update
[18:33] <tiago_> aparece isso
[18:33] <tiago_> E: Opção 'g' da linha de comandos [de -get] é desconhecida.
[18:34] <tiago_> eai oque será que houve?
[18:36] <Gambit15> Você teclou errado!
[18:36] <tiago_> funcionou
[18:36] <tiago_> agora
[18:37] <Gambit15> Nenhum aviso ou problema?
[18:37] <tiago_> agora deu um erro
[18:37] <Gambit15> o que?
[18:37] <tiago_> Err http://sft.if.usp.br utopic-proposed/multiverse i386 Packages 404 Not Found
[18:37] <Gambit15> Cola uma linha aqui
[18:37] <edenc> lol
[18:38] <tiago_> e agora tá
[18:38] <tiago_> 100% [A aguardar por cabeçalhos]^Ctiago@Quabat:~$
[18:39] <edenc> tiago_: você tá usando o ubuntu 10.10 e ele foi descontinuado
[18:39] <edenc> erm
[18:39] <edenc> 14.10
[18:39] <tiago_> aff
[18:39] <tiago_> no site só tinha este download
[18:39] <edenc> não é verdade
[18:39] <tiago_> alguem pode me passar o link
[18:39] <tiago_> ?
[18:39] <Gambit15> Qual site?
[18:39] <tiago_> vou pegar aqui
[18:39] <tiago_> http://ubuntu-br.org/
[18:40] <edenc> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[18:40] <edenc> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:40] <Gambit15> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:40] <tiago_> meu amigo desculpa da trabalho a vocês é porque eu decidi instalar o linux para me livrar do windows
[18:40] <tiago_> e não tinha noção para min aquele site era bom
[18:41] <Gambit15> tiago_, naquele site você tem duas opções, 14.04 e 15.10
[18:42] <edenc> não deveria oferecer o 14.10 no ubuntu-br.org
[18:42] <Gambit15> O 14.04 (LTS) tem suporte e atualizações até 2019, o 15.10 é mais atualizado agora, mas o suporte acaba em 2016-07
[18:43] <edenc> Eu acho que precisa de mais esforço pra separar as linhas de desenvolvimento, porque os novatos se confundem muito com isso
[18:43] <edenc> Invés de fornecer uma imagem do 15.10, deveria ser um build
[18:43] <edenc> pros novatos evitarem
[18:43] <edenc> :P
[18:45] <tiago_> valeu gente! boa tarde
[18:45] <tiago_> vou baixar a versão que tem suport para 2019
[21:22] <Cesar_Augusto> blz pelo visto o tiago conseguiu resolver o problema , show :)
[21:54] <asdf999> canal quieto
[21:54] <asdf999> tá fraco demais
[21:55] <asdf999> será que o ubuntu está morrendo ou é só uma fase mesmo ?
[22:22] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:53] <Francylucio> Instalei o Ubuntu 14.10 no meu notebook, porém, a interface do programa não está com o idioma totalmente em Pt-BR. Como procedo para traduzir totalmente para meu idioma?
[22:57] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[23:01] <Francylucio> ok
[23:03] <astroo-> ve o privado
[23:39] <sousato> dpkg
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[02:17] <Prad_> Hi Team - I have installed ubuntu server with php mysql
[02:19] <Prad_> now i m getting The requested URL /crm/locker/ was not found on this server.
[02:19] <Prad_> The first page to login comes
[02:19] <Prad_> but once i have logged on
[02:19] <Prad_> I get the above error
[02:19] <Prad_> Any help would be good
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[12:29] <tsimonq2> o/ dholbach
[12:35] <dholbach> hi tsimonq2
[12:43] <tsimonq2> dholbach: how are you today?
[12:44] <dholbach> good good - how about you?
[12:48] <tsimonq2> pretty good :)
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:48] <didrocks> good morning
[07:42] <pitti> Good morning
[07:42] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, tu as te levé tôt ! ça va ?
[07:43] <didrocks> pitti: bonjour ! ça va bien ! (oui, je me lève de plus en plus tôt j'ai l'impression…) et toi ?
[07:52] <andyrock> morning all
[07:53] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:53] <didrocks> hey andyrock, hello seb128 :)
[07:53] <didrocks> finally the channel starts to be active :p
[07:53] * didrocks felt alone
[07:53] <pitti> didrocks: je vais bien aussi, mais j'ai me couché à 1:30
[07:54] <pitti> après basketball, donc c'est normal :)
[07:54] <pitti> j'ai regardé deux videos de systemd.conf
[07:54] <pitti> bonjour seb128!
[07:54] <pitti> hey andyrock
[07:54] <didrocks> pitti: je n'en n'ai regardé qu'une :)
[07:55] <didrocks> pitti: ah d'accord, donc après s'être couché à 1h, bon score! :)
[07:55] <pitti> didrocks: that means "I watched only one", right?
[07:55] <pitti> or "I didn't watch even one"?
[07:56] * pitti ne connais pas le double "ne"
[07:56] <didrocks> pitti: "only one", yeah
[07:56] <seb128> hey andyrock didrocks pitti
[07:56] <pitti> i. e. "n'en n'ai"
[07:56] <TheMuso> Hey desktoppers. :)
[07:56] <didrocks> pitti: you can say as well (maybe more commonly): "j'en ai regardé qu'une"
[07:57] <pitti> didrocks: ah, c'est que je sais, merci :)
[07:57] * seb128 just spent half an hour figuring out why its boot is taking ages for a week
[07:57] * seb128 grrrr at systemd
[07:58] <pitti> qu'est-ce qu'est cassé ?
[07:58] <seb128> ma partition swap a changé et le fstab est faux
[07:58] <seb128> mais systemd de dit rien
[07:58] <seb128> j'ai juste le logo plymouth avec les points qui bougent pendant 1 minute
[07:59] <seb128> très frustrant
[07:59] <seb128> pas d'erreur, pas de message, rien, ça bloque et d'un coup ça démarre
[08:00] <pitti> seb128: ah, you have some failed swap unit in systemctl --failed?
[08:00] <seb128> I guess I would have, I used the debug-shell to list-job, saw the swap job was the only running, figured out it was the issue and coimmented the line from fstab
[08:01] <pitti> hm, you get a rescue shell for broken / or /home or so; not sure whether you are supposed to get a rescue shell for broken swap too (or whether that's preferable to just continue booting wihtout swap)
[08:01] <seb128> now the system boots normally again
[08:01] <seb128> booting without swap is fine
[08:01] <seb128> the 1 minute delay is not
[08:01] <seb128> what is it waiting for? it's an internal partition that doesn't exist anymore
[08:01] <seb128> error out or keep going
[08:01] <pitti> on systems where you actually do want swap it wouldn't be "fine", it would just silently ignore an error
[08:02] <seb128> no cookie for you systemd
[08:02] <pitti> maybe the right thing would be to put these "waiting for these units" warnings to plymouth
[08:02] <didrocks> IMHO, the issue is not the waiting, but more on the "no error message/telling I'm waiting on this"
[08:02] <seb128> that would be nice
[08:02] <pitti> you see those on a VT, but not without ply
[08:02] <seb128> not even in a vt
[08:02] <seb128> I had to debug-shell and list-jobs
[08:02] <didrocks> pitti: if communicating with plymouth was something that would interest upstream (hem :p)
[08:05] <pitti> ah yes, quiet eats that as well
[08:06] <pitti> that sounds like somethign to fix for 16.04, this is ugly
[08:06] <Trevinho> Morning!
[08:07] <didrocks> morning Trevinho
[08:07] <Trevinho> Trevinho: hey!
[08:07] <Trevinho> didrocks: hey
[08:07] <Trevinho> Ouch 😀
[08:07] <didrocks> speaking to yourself? :)
[08:09] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[08:09] <seb128> pitti, what would be the proper fix? proxying the "wait for disk UUID=...." on plymouth?
[08:09] <Trevinho> seb128: Hola!
[08:10] <Trevinho> didrocks: yeah, it happens sometime :-D
[08:12] <pitti> seb128: showing a blocking unit in plymouth and with quiet sounds helpful
[08:13] <pitti> seb128: also, do you know what broke your swap?
[08:13] <seb128> +1
[08:13] <seb128> me
[08:13] <seb128> I needed a partition to try something in gnome-disks
[08:13] <seb128> I used the swap so I unswapped it and created a swap back later on
[08:13] <seb128> but the UUID changed I guess
[08:13] <pitti> yes, every mkswap will change it; ok, so that's at least clear
[08:21] <TheMuso> Morning willcooke.
[08:28] <willcooke> morning TheMuso just off to do the school run, bbiab
[08:30] <TheMuso> np
[09:40] <Laney> hey!
[09:41] * pitti does a jump to the left -- it's a Laney!
[09:41] <pitti> Good morning!
[09:41] <Laney> hey pitti!
[09:41] <larsu> bonjour
[09:42] <pitti> larsu: Moin moin!
[09:42] <larsu> hi pitti!
[09:43] <didrocks> hey hey hey LaLaney! :)
[09:43] <didrocks> morning larsu
[09:45] <larsu> hey didrocks! Had a good day off?
[09:46] <Laney> hey didrocks
[09:46] <Laney> nice sauna/spa day?
[09:46] * Laney knows how french people spend their free time
[09:47] * Laney is going to get kicked off this network in 3 minutes
[09:47] <Laney> come on greylisting
[09:47] <didrocks> larsu: Laney: yeah, it was a nice day. Stayed at home mostly, but did some nice cooking :)
[09:48] <Laney> did it involve cheese and/or cream?
[09:48] <Laney> if not: try harder please
[09:48] <Laney> :)
[09:51] <didrocks> neither of those!
[09:51] <didrocks> but meat and lentils
[09:55] <Laney> A sign reading "Don't touch the water" can be seen near the river
[09:55] <Laney> oops!
[09:56] <Laney> middle click paste...
[09:56] <seb128> oh, a Laney
[09:57] <Laney> hey seb128
[09:57] <seb128> hey Laney ;-)
[09:57] <Laney> unmute the telegram :P
[09:57] <Laney> what's up?
[09:57] <seb128> haha
[09:57] <seb128> oh, larsu is alive as well
[09:57] <seb128> good :-)
[09:57] <seb128> I missed out with this muted on
[09:58] <Laney> oh FFS
[09:59] <Laney> the gnome-terminal reverted my upload from last nighth
[09:59] <Laney> did I forget to push? but even so...
[09:59] <seb128> rooooobbbb
[10:00] <Laney> :|
[10:00] <Laney> and that one was also because one of the previous uploads had reverted my change
[10:01] * Laney take three
[10:05] <larsu> hi seb128 :)
[10:05] <larsu> did some errands this morning
[10:06] <seb128> hey larsu
[10:09] <Laney> seb128: seems slangasek processed some of the removals for gsl last night
[10:09] <Laney> can you look at the remaining packages http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/gsl.html ?
[10:09] <seb128> Laney, yeah, I was just about to look at that
[10:10] <Laney> i.e. forget my list now, it's out of date
[10:10] <seb128> k
[10:10] <Laney> not sure why he didn't do all of them
[10:10] <Laney> maybe they are ones with rdeps or something?
[10:10] <Laney> but let's just kill those too IMHO
[10:11] <Laney> if you give me the list I can block them in proposed
[10:11] <seb128> block them? you mean?
[10:12] <seb128> I though we just wanted to demote-to-proposed them?
[10:12] <Laney> demoted things can go straight back in
[10:12] <Laney> if they have old binaries which work in release
[10:12] <Laney> you should check if I already uploaded these and they FTBFS in proposed
[10:12] <seb128> they wouldn't if they fail to build no?
[10:12] <Laney> in which case just remove from release IMHO
[10:13] <seb128> makes sense
[10:13] <Laney> only if it's a rebuild, demote copies the old successful binaries
[10:15] * Laney really bzr pushes g-t this time
[10:16] <willcooke> didrocks, can we do anything with Fritzing without MD5, "latest" link and HTTPS?
[10:18] <willcooke> also: who knows the most about Ubiquity here? tvoss is having a problem with resizing partitions and it seems to have hung. How can he find out what;s going on? Where are the good logs?
[10:19] <Laney> #ubuntu-installer
[10:19] <Laney> & /var/log/ubiquity or /var/lib/ubiquity?
[10:19] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[10:21] <seb128> Laney, "asymptote" has a --disable-gsl, might be a better option than removing it?
[10:22] <Laney> dunno
[10:22] <jibel> willcooke, there was a bug in wily, the "resize" widget sometimes doesn't receive the focus
[10:22] <Laney> if you want to try that go ahead
[10:22] <Laney> otherwise we get the fix via sync
[10:22] <seb128> k
[10:22] <seb128> shruug
[10:22] <seb128> calendar reminder, apparently I've a meeting in 10 minutes
[10:22] <jibel> willcooke, if it's a bug with the UI
[10:23] <jibel> otherwise there were others with partman itself in some configurations
[10:25] <jibel> willcooke, bug 1447600
[10:26] <jibel> should be highre than medium
[10:27] <seb128> seems like a good one to fix for the LTS
[10:28] <pitti> seb128: btw, I see that flickering on new windows too, like the window first appears black for a split second and then is drawn
[10:28] <seb128> pitti, ah, I'm not alone or crazy yet!
[10:28] <seb128> pitti, thanks for confirming
[10:28] <Laney> larsu already started asking about it
[10:28] <pitti> and, what happened with gedit
[10:28] <Laney> seems he knows what is likeliy to be the fix
[10:29] <Laney> HAHA
[10:29] <Laney> yesssssssssss
[10:29] <pitti> I mean, it's not actaully bad, but it's so different from everything else
[10:30] <seb128> pitti, welcome to new GNOME style
[10:30] <seb128> we are giving in a try to see how it fits/works
[10:31] <Laney> I like it apart from the double controls
[10:31] <Laney> oh and linked buttons are themed badly
[10:31] <Laney> probably fixable though
[10:32] <Trevinho> willcooke: I'll be in meeting in 1 min
[10:32] <pitti> linked buttons?
[10:32] <Laney> also, is it me or does escape not close file choosers any more?
[10:32] <seb128> I opened bug #1513856 about that
[10:32] <Laney> did it before or am I going crazy?
[10:32] <pitti> Laney: works here
[10:32] <Laney> pitti: try in gedit -> save as
[10:32] <pitti> and yes, esc not closing dialogs → really bad things happen!
[10:32] <seb128> pitti, try to close gedit with unsaved work
[10:32] <seb128> the dialog has buttons concatenated in a row together
[10:32] <seb128> doesn't look good
[10:33] <pitti> seb128: eww, yes
[10:33] <pitti> Laney: oh -- esc doesn't work right away, but after clicking into the file tree it does
[10:33] <pitti> it does not work in the name input line
[10:33] * Laney nods
[10:34] <pitti> but in the left bookmark bar or the tree selector
[10:34] <pitti> so, thanks guys! *finally* I have the feeling I'm on an 31337 unstable developer series!
[10:34] <pitti> this got way too boring
[10:35] <pitti> seb128: and you can use your old saying again at last!
[10:35] <pitti> come on, say it
[10:36] <seb128> lol
[10:36] <seb128> nothing to say, people are going to say I'm old and grumpy :p
[10:37] <seb128> (but boring is good!)
[10:37] <pitti> seb128: pleeeease, for old time's sake! :-)
[10:37] <seb128> iz gtk bog!
[10:37] <pitti> \o/
[10:37] * pitti hugs seb128
[10:37] * seb128 hugs pitti back
[10:38] <seb128> is somebody seeing bug #1515461?
[10:39] <pitti> ça marche bien ici
[10:39] <pitti> oh no, confirmed
[10:39] <pitti> iz gtk bug!
[10:39] <seb128> yeah, I think so
[10:39] <seb128> I'm still on 3.16 and doesn't see it
[10:40] <seb128> might be a 3.18 regression
[10:40] <seb128> Laney ^
[10:40] <pitti> could it be that a lot of this (button space, compression, etc.) is because our theme didn't get updated to 3.18 yet?
[10:40] <seb128> my workflow might be not standard but the open button behaviour really annoys
[10:40] <seb128> +me
[10:40] <pitti> I can't imagine that this happens with Adwaita
[10:40] <seb128> I never open old documents, but I almost always open things from the same dir
[10:41] <seb128> I don't think it's a theme 3.18 update
[10:41] <seb128> at least the linked button is not
[10:41] <Laney> it doesn't happen with adwaita
[10:41] <seb128> it's just new app style
[10:42] * Laney assigns to theme maintainer :)
[10:42] <seb128> shall name write his name!
[10:43] <seb128> Mr W* C*
[10:43] <Laney> nah, not that one :P
[10:43] <seb128> name->not
[10:43] <Laney> larsu: assigned you a couple of bugs if you can look in the medium term
[10:43] <Laney> just pinging incase you miss the mail ;)
[10:44] <Laney> or delegate to your co maintainer of course
[10:44] <seb128> we we like linked buttons now?
[10:44] <seb128> I though we patched them out of GTK previous cycle
[10:44] <Laney> we patched more things out before
[10:44] <Laney> like headerbars...
[10:44] <Laney> if we like gnome we should try it imho
[10:45] <seb128> yeah, let's see
[10:45] <seb128> I'm having an hard time to get used to the new gedit, it doesn't fit well with the rest for me atm
[10:45] <Laney> the adwaita ones look nice
[10:45] <seb128> it looks better indeed
[10:45] <larsu> Laney: "thanks"
[10:45] <Laney> :)
[10:45] <larsu> ;)
[10:45] <Laney> keeping you in green tea
[10:46] * larsu gets more
[10:46] <seb128> poor larsu
[10:46] <Laney> swap for gsl/poppler/glew/ocaml transition?
[10:46] <Laney> actually don't, I like it
[10:46] <Laney> slangasek has been wielding the delete hammer hard
[10:47] <seb128> larsu, how did you priority sort your todo between geolocation new_nautilus_menus and bugs?
[10:48] <larsu> seb128: whenever someone pings me they have prio
[10:49] <larsu> which might not be the best idea...
[10:49] <seb128> yeah, you need to put them in a queue and reorder the queue as you see fit :-)
[10:51] <Laney> stupid laptop
[10:51] <Laney> need to us fn to access the function keys
[10:51] <Laney> but for print screen fn is the wireless kill switch instead
[10:51] <Laney> even though it's written in the same place as Fn
[10:55] <larsu> haha
[10:59] <Laney> this network blocks the git protocol
[10:59] <Laney> annoying
[10:59] <larsu> git can do http
[10:59] <larsu> but you know this...
[11:00] <Laney> haha
[11:00] <Laney> thanks!
[11:01] * Laney populates https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=gtk318
[11:16] <Laney> larsu: should that frame clock one go to compiz after your chats yesterday?
[11:16] <Laney> ...is that going to be hard to fix?
[11:20] <larsu> hahahahaa
[11:20] <larsu> yes.
[11:21] <Laney> ._.
[11:21] <larsu> I don't even think we can work around this tbh
[11:21] <Laney> better get it agiled into someone's plans then
[11:21] <larsu> agile is a verb now?
[11:21] <larsu> I wonder why we're only seeing this now though
[11:21] <larsu> maybe we need someone to ...
[11:22] <Laney> everything can be verbed
[11:22] <larsu> *puts on sunglasses*
[11:22] <larsu> ... bisect
[11:22] <seb128> hum, do we have anyone in the team good at that?!
[11:22] * seb128 looks around
[11:22] <Laney> might need to hire someone
[11:22] * larsu helps seb128 looking around
[11:23] * larsu looks 7000km west
[11:23] <Laney> because I don't know anyone with that kind of skill
[11:23] <larsu> a bit south
[11:23] <Laney> nuh uh
[11:24] <larsu> maybe we should go through all members of this team alphabetically and ask if they could do it?
[11:27] <seb128> yeah; let's start with a ... attente? ;-)
[11:38] <seb128> Laney, ruby-gsl had a leftover amd64 binary in xenial-proposed, just deleted that
[11:39] <seb128> should make http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/gsl.html clean
[11:40] <Laney> nice, thanks
[11:40] <seb128> yw
[11:40] <Laney> finding some more random transitions in there now
[11:40] <Laney> ode, dcmtk
[11:41] <seb128> is glew ready?
[11:41] <seb128> seems slangasek has been picking it up after I start yesterdy
[11:42] <Laney> dunno
[11:42] <Laney> just going through the list in turn
[11:46] <Laney> seb128: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=804728 <- drop soya + rdeps completely?
[11:47] <Laney> * balazar3-3d (for python-soya)
[11:47] <Laney> * balazarbrothers (for python-soya)
[11:50] <seb128> Laney, but it built yesterday https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soya/0.15~rc1-10build2 ?
[11:50] <seb128> or what's the issue?
[11:50] <Laney> not against the right thing
[11:50] <Laney> see the first comment in that bug
[11:51] <seb128> but build log says it picked glew1.3
[11:51] <seb128> or are you looking at another transition?
[11:51] <seb128> oh
[11:51] <seb128> you look at "ode"
[11:52] <Laney> I'm looking at all of them that are in this block
[11:52] <Laney> but yeah, in this case it is ode
[11:53] <seb128> done
[11:53] <seb128> balazar3-3d doesn't exist though
[11:54] <seb128> oh, it's balazar3
[11:54] <seb128> ignore that
[11:55] <Laney> there's also a recommends from some metapackage
[11:55] <Laney> will fix that
[11:56] * willcooke finally gets caught up on scroll back
[11:56] <willcooke> themes!
[11:57] <willcooke> I'm fixing (IMO) the Gedit theme atm
[11:57] <willcooke> It's funny, I have something that I think looks nice on the laptop screen
[11:57] <willcooke> and then when I connect to an external screen and make the windows fill the screen I don't like it anymore
[11:58] <willcooke> I'd like to make the header bars shorter(? less vertical height)
[11:58] <willcooke> and the header bar buttons could do with a bit more contrast
[11:59] <willcooke> and then there's the text in the open dialogue which is all screwy
[11:59] <willcooke> it's never ending :)
[11:59] <willcooke> Once all of that is "ok" then I will go and speak to Design about header bars
[11:59] <willcooke> but for now... lunch
[12:00] <willcooke> oh, one more thing
[12:00] <willcooke> cyphermox, is this bug on your list for 16.04? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-ext3/+bug/1361951
[12:01] <willcooke> hit and run. Now lunch.....
[12:02] <didrocks> willcooke: it's hard to maintain a robust product, if Fritzing people are intested into shipping for us, they should make our life (and so, their experience) better
[12:02] <didrocks> willcooke: also, I feel really uncomfortable downloading executable code without having any way to check that the code is legit from upstream
[12:04] <didrocks> willcooke: any reason they can't do it?
[12:43] <davmor2> willcooke: you on xenial? do you have dual monitors?
[12:51] <davmor2> Laney, seb128: Either of you too on a dual monitor xenial setup? I'd like a confirm on a issue
[12:52] <seb128> davmor2, I do
[12:54] <seb128> shrug, am I the only one having unity eating cpu after user switch/unlock?
[12:54] <seb128> on xenial
[12:54] <davmor2> seb128: awesome, could you set one monitor below the other in Screen display, then on the lower monitor open an app full screen and put the mouse on it is it the resize up icon rather than the the normal pointer
[12:57] <seb128> davmor2, it's not but I didn't restart my session for a while so might not be using the current unity, going to restart in a bit
[12:58] <davmor2> seb128: it may actually be more specific to hexchat I'm trying other apps though
[13:43] <attente> lol. you guys...
[13:45] <Laney> oh hi attente!
[13:46] <attente> hey hey
[13:47] <Laney> what's up?
[13:52] <desrt> good morning
[13:52] <desrt> what did i miss?
[13:52] <seb128> hey .ca desktopers ;-)
[13:52] <desrt> desktop.ca
[13:53] <willcooke> o/
[13:54] <attente> good morning
[13:55] <qengho> good morning
[13:56] <larsu> hi qengho and attente!
[13:56] <larsu> and desrt :)
[13:56] <didrocks> hey desrt
[13:57] <desrt> good morning, all
[14:01] <cyphermox> willcooke: it's on my radar for every release, the difference is just that now we're more likely to actually fix it and understand why it's fixed
[14:01] <willcooke> cyphermox, ack. thx
[14:27] <qengho> seb128: I have never merged packages from Debian before, but I'm happy to help. What should I do to get xdg-utils merged? Is there launchpad machinery, or is it downloading and uploading?
[14:28] <seb128> qengho, you can find some details on https://merges.ubuntu.com/x/xdg-utils/REPORT
[14:28] <qengho> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging This seems useful.
[14:28] <qengho> seb128: thanks.
[14:29] <seb128> qengho, but it's basically "take the current Debian version, review the Ubuntu delta and re-apply what is needed on top of Debian"
[14:29] <qengho> Ah.
[14:29] <seb128> qengho, https://merges.ubuntu.com/x/xdg-utils/
[14:30] <seb128> shrug, guest session fails on xenial here
[14:31] <seb128> but if I edit /usr/sbin/guest-account to change from -e to -x and get debug info, it works :/
[14:31] <larsu> seb128: -e means "stop on error"
[14:31] <seb128> doh, I wanted to add x
[14:32] <seb128> larsu, thanks ;-)
[14:32] <larsu> ;)
[14:36] <seb128> there are all sort of fails with guest session/user switch/unity
[14:36] <seb128> - guest session fails to start
[14:36] <seb128> - it bounces me back to unity-greeter which fails to display my custom user bg
[14:37] <seb128> - login back to the session shows the unlocked session, then lock fade in then unlock
[14:37] <seb128> - then compiz uses 100% cpu with a thread in pam code
[14:37] * seb128 shrugs
[14:38] <seb128> andyrock, did you get anywhere with the session not being locked when it should? (e.g screen showing unlocked for a second after suspend/resume)
[14:38] <seb128> also I can't believe nobody else is having the cpu use/pam issue
[14:41] <seb128> ok, at least I figured out the issue with guest session
[14:42] <seb128> I'm going for a footing since it's still sunny and nice out there
[14:42] <seb128> be back in ~1h
[15:14] <willcooke> larsu, how fond of the gradients between tabs in GtkNotebook are you? With the new darker/lighter tabs the gradient looks meh, and I think a solid line is more effective
[15:17] <willcooke> cyphermox, fixed already!? Thanks!
[15:17] <cyphermox> willcooke: yeah, it was already fairly obvious what was needed, I just wanted to better understand exactly why
[15:18] <willcooke> cool
[15:18] <cyphermox> I think we've reached that now
[15:18] <willcooke> well thanks for turning it around so quickly
[15:18] <Laney> tall chairs without a cross bar to rest your feet on need to be banned
[15:19] <Laney> in the meantime, /me burns this cafe down
[15:19] <Laney> (GCHQ: that was a JOKE)
[15:19] <willcooke> :D
[15:19] <cyphermox> you caught me early, before I got to start on other things ;)
[15:19] <willcooke> Laney, simply carry a step with you
[15:19] * willcooke makes a note to bother cyphermox in the mornings
[15:19] <Laney> I kicked off and now the owner is crouching on the floor in front of me
[15:20] <Laney> the customer is always right
[15:20] <willcooke> damn straight
[15:20] <Laney> actually the chair next to me appears to have one
[15:20] * Laney swaps
[15:20] <desrt> first. world. problem.
[15:20] <Laney> ahhhhhhhhhh
[15:20] * willcooke wonders if the new cafe down the road has wifi
[15:21] <qengho> Laney: I heard you wanted to ASSASINATE THE PRESIDENT of Ikea.
[15:24] <desrt> i have to assume that nsa/gchq/etc. have developed pretty good troll filters by now
[15:25] <qengho> Maybe. Add "LOL" to escape Bayes flagging.
[15:31] <willcooke> imgur.com/sd6iYay
[15:31] <willcooke> http://imgur.com/sd6iYay
[15:32] <willcooke> err
[15:32] <willcooke> http://imgur.com/sd6iYAy
[15:32] <willcooke> there we go
[15:32] <willcooke> what do you think folks?
[15:32] <willcooke> the mouse would be over the close button on the middle tab
[15:33] <willcooke> that's a solid border instead of the gradient
[15:36] <andyrock> seb128: sorry missed the ping (irccloud :()
[15:37] <andyrock> nope, i can't actually reproduce it
[15:37] <andyrock> i created a ppa for pat
[15:37] <andyrock> with a possible fix but the problem is still there
[15:37] <andyrock> at this point I'm not sure the problem is in unity
[15:39] <larsu> willcooke: not at all - but that's more of a design question
[15:39] <larsu> I mean, for design
[15:41] <Laney> Mirv / mitya57: can you help me with https://launchpadlibrarian.net/225697670/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.phonon-backend-vlc_0.8.2-1ubuntu2_BUILDING.txt.gz please?
[15:41] <willcooke> larsu, I *am* design now ;)
[15:41] <larsu> ooooh
[15:41] <larsu> well then, go ahead please
[15:41] * willcooke gets his crayons out
[15:42] <willcooke> oooh, Red Arrows just went over my house
[15:43] * ogra_ checks on google maps
[15:43] <ogra_> lies !
[15:43] <Laney> willcooke: I don't reaally rate the small gap at the top of the tabs :(
[15:43] <Laney> man, this wifi
[15:56] <willcooke> Laney, ack. I think it's always been there, but because of the colour of the tabs it wasn't noticeable. But yeah, looks off
[15:57] <Laney> willcooke: maybe so
[15:57] <davmor2> willcooke: much as I love all the things that Laney complains about (high chairs all round) I have to admit the little gap is weird
[15:58] <Laney> willcooke: GTK_THEME=Adwaita gedit to see how gnome has it btw
[15:58] <willcooke> thx
[16:03] <Laney> oh you can change that from the inspector too, I forgot
[16:04] * didrocks waves good evening and good night!
[16:04] <willcooke> cya didrocks
[16:04] <didrocks> atom is building and working from trusty to wily, nice way to EOD :)
[16:04] <didrocks> see you willcooke
[16:04] <Laney> bye didrocks!
[16:04] <didrocks> bye Laney!
[16:04] * Laney got in in time!!!
[16:04] <willcooke> \o/
[16:04] <Laney> today is a good day
[16:06] <pitti> Laney: won the didrace for once!
[16:11] <seb128> back
[16:11] <seb128> that sunny weather is quite nice for exercice ;-)
[16:11] <seb128> start being night now though
[16:11] <Laney> hope you footed well
[16:13] <seb128> I did ;-)
[16:15] <seb128> ok, quick shower and I'm back to get some work done
[16:15] <seb128> (how are the transitions going?)
[16:17] <Laney> * amd64: phonon-backend-vlc, phonon-backend-vlc-dbg, phonon4qt5-backend-vlc, phonon4qt5-backend-vlc-dbg, python-pyepl, python-soya, python-soya-dbg
[16:19] <Laney> I tried pinging about phonon but nobody stepped up yet
[16:20] <Laney> some more stuff on other arches
[16:20] * Laney looks
[16:44] <Laney> seb128: can we demote insighttoolkit4 elastix ginkgocadx itksnap plastimatch?
[16:44] <Laney> insighttoolkit4 is a 3 day build on amd64...
[16:44] <seb128> k
[16:44] * desrt watches Laney use seb128 as a commandline tool
[16:44] <seb128> you checked if they have rdepends?
[16:45] <Laney> those are the rdeps
[16:46] <seb128> I mean they don't have anything depending on them?
[16:46] <Laney> nah just a recommends from some package that won't block anything
[16:46] <seb128> what I mean, is should I check that or did you
[16:46] <seb128> k
[16:47] <seb128> thanks
[16:47] <Laney> the last 4 are rdeps of the first one
[16:47] <Laney> did you do the soya stuff?
[16:48] <Laney> we can DO THIS! COME ON!
[16:48] * Laney self motivates
[16:50] <seb128> balazar3-3d and balazarbrothers ?
[16:50] <seb128> I did
[16:50] <seb128> +soya itself
[16:51] <Laney> when?
[16:51] <Laney> ah I seee it
[16:51] * willcooke . . o O ( Balazar Brother = Lion tamers)
[16:51] <Laney> seb128: I think python-soya too
[16:51] <Laney> or pysoya or whatever it is
[16:51] <seb128> when you pinged
[16:51] <seb128> so like 5 hours ago
[16:51] <Laney> hmm
[16:52] <seb128> for what transitions are the ones you just gave?
[16:52] <Laney> what's britney playing at?
[16:52] <seb128> needed for the demote message ;-
[16:52] <seb128> ;-)
[16:52] <Laney> libdcmtk
[16:54] <Laney> I could probably fix it but the build is too long
[16:54] <seb128> k
[16:54] <seb128> we can bring those back
[16:54] <seb128> no worry
[16:57] <seb128> Laney, new demotion round done
[16:57] <Laney> ty!
[16:57] <seb128> yw!
[17:05] <mitya57> Laney, let me look
[17:06] <Laney> mitya57: ok, slangasek just pinged Mirv in #ubuntu-devel about this too FYI
[17:06] <Laney> so maybe he's also looking
[17:06] <Laney> thanks
[17:08] <Laney> I tried turning the flag off from PhononInternal.cmake but that didn't work
[17:08] <Laney> can't tell where this is coming from
[17:46] <Laney> seb128: think there are ginkgocadx binaries on arm64 ppc64el still
[17:46] <Laney> ginkgocadx | 3.7.1.1573.41+dfsg-3 | xenial-proposed/universe | arm64, ppc64el
[17:46] <Laney> for the old version
[17:47] <seb128> hum
[17:47] <Laney> delete them? :)
[17:47] * Laney pew pew pew
[17:48] <seb128> I don't understand what's going on
[17:48] <seb128> Rejected:
[17:48] <seb128> ginkgocadx 3.7.1.1573.41+dfsg-2 in xenial (version older than the ginkgocadx 3.7.1.1573.41+dfsg-4 in xenial published in xenial)
[17:48] <seb128> the demote-to-proposed failed
[17:48] <seb128> it tried to upload an old version
[17:48] * seb128 doesn't understand
[17:49] <Laney> hmm maybe this isn't the problem actually
[17:49] <Laney> perhaps it just needs to catch up
[17:49] <Laney> oh yeah it's gone away now
[17:49] <seb128> 32271 seb128 20 0 381440 163640 47796 S 296,6 4,1 194:45.73 compiz
[17:49] <seb128> come on compiz
[17:49] <seb128> or unity
[17:56] * Laney wibbles
[17:56] <Laney> guess I don't get to see this go through today :P
[17:58] <seb128> be careful, slangasek might steal the last bit of the puzzle and put in place while you sleep
[17:59] <Laney> it's going to be mitya57
[17:59] <Laney> just that phonon thing
[17:59] <seb128> good :-)
[18:00] * Laney gives you a different and better present
[18:04] <Laney> righty ho, ttyl!
[18:04] <Laney> seb128: you should swoop in and steal it
[18:05] <seb128> lol
[18:05] <seb128> nice try but no thanks ;-)
[18:05] * seb128 tries to clean some red lines from version
[18:06] <Laney> restart the vino work? ;-)
[18:06] <Laney> byeeeeeeeeEEEEEeeee
[18:07] <seb128> haha
[18:07] <seb128> Laney, have a nice evening!
[18:07] <seb128> climbing tonight?
[18:12] <seb128> ah, Laney just missed gtk -3 from debian with a regression fix from .3 having an api change for bindings
[19:11] <willcooke> g'night
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[00:36] <bluesabre> back
[00:36] <bluesabre> nighty flocculant
[00:39] <bluesabre> knome: poke
[02:15] <bluesabre> dkessel: updated the packaging for the mousepad recipe, now we just need a new commit on http://git.xfce.org/apps/mousepad/ to get new builds
[04:19] <dkessel> thanks bluesabre :)
[10:14] <flocculant> Unit193: do you use (or have) the apt-offline doobiwotsit? could you look at the updates to the docs page I have done for that :)
[10:15] <flocculant> https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/updates/+merge/277329
[11:05] <knome> a wild ochosi appears
[11:29] <astraljava> Hahah
[14:09] <Unit193> flocculant: I briefly looked over it.
[14:13] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/DeveloperDocumentation
[14:13] <knome> :]
[14:19] <flocculant> Unit193: cheers - just wanted to make sure it makes sense
[14:19] <Unit193> ...the apt-offline doobiwotsit... didn't. :P
[14:26] <flocculant> :p
[16:09] <flocculant> bluesabre: so parole not playing films using clutter here
[19:12] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Should just running ./configure --enable-maintainer-mode work?
[19:12] <Noskcaj> (for mousepad)
[21:46] <ochosi> evening folks
[21:46] <flocculant> ochosi: evening :)
[21:46] <knome> hello ochosi
[21:47] <ochosi> so what's clickin?
[21:47] <flocculant> most of my joints
[21:48] <flocculant> ochosi: so you found the poll thread yesterday - don't forget to do more than read it :D
[21:48] <ochosi> yeah, for some reason i dont receive ML mails anymore
[21:48] <ochosi> no idea what's up with that
[21:48] <ochosi> had no time to check it out last night
[21:49] <ochosi> but will now
[21:49] <flocculant> that's odd then
[21:49] <ochosi> yeah, no clue, haven't changed anything in the subscription or the email filters
[21:50] <Unit193> Spam.
[21:51] <Unit193> Or knome removed you to mess with you.
[21:51] <ochosi> both is possible or even probable
[21:51] <knome> it's the baby who is (literally) messing with ochosi
[21:52] <flocculant> s/with/on
[21:52] <knome> ;)
[21:52] <ochosi> gee, did anyone warn those guys on the ML in terms of spamming us with their "votes"?
[21:53] <Unit193> Did you read te first one?
[21:53] <knome> ochosi, didn't you see my reply to the thread?
[21:53] <flocculant> ochosi: I was silly enough to think that a centre justified line in bold would suffice
[21:54] <ochosi> flocculant: sorry, my emails are plaintext ;)
[21:54] <flocculant> :)
[21:54] <flocculant> but it was still line #1 I hope :D
[21:54] <knome> flocculant, who reads the first line?
[21:54] <ochosi> right right, i'm still catching up on the thread and i started from the bottom here (for some odd reason): https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-November/thread.html
[21:54] <Unit193> I used a text client, it was very clear too. :P
[21:54] <knome> well i guess it's become a habit for you to work with the bottom
[21:55] <flocculant> ha ha
[21:56] <ochosi> knome: yeah yeah, i'm just waiting for you... ;)
[21:56] <knome> i know
[21:56] <knome> but i'll use this non-overlapping time as well as i can
[21:56] <ochosi> haha
[21:56] <ochosi> can't argue with that
[21:57] <knome> just tell me if i'm going too far
[21:57] <ochosi> sure thing :)
[21:57] <knome> and i'll tell your baby she can stop crying because you have picked up the crybaby hat of the family
[21:57] <ochosi> :D
[21:57] <knome> you weren't expecting THAT
[21:58] <ochosi> i wasn't expecting THAT
[21:58] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[21:58] <ochosi> :)
[22:00] <ochosi> ok, more serious note
[22:00] <ochosi> anyone up for fosdem in february?
[22:00] <ochosi> i know it's early to ask
[22:00] <flocculant> not me
[22:00] <ochosi> but then again, asking later might even make less sense
[22:00] <knome> silly brussels
[22:00] <ochosi> we still have time to gather some funding
[22:00] <knome> the fosdem website says 30/31 january
[22:01] <knome> so i don't think anybody is going there in february
[22:01] <ochosi> ok ok
[22:01] <ochosi> so that then
[22:01] <knome> i don't think so, but if enough people from the team will attend, and i will be desperate enough avoiding the poop cannons, maybe
[22:02] <Unit193> Not me either.
[22:02] <knome> also, i wonder why "beer" is mentioned as the first thing int he fosdem header.
[22:04] <ochosi> because brussels - belgium - beer?
[22:04] <knome> :P
[22:05] <Unit193> Well considering we're talking about beer, vomit, and poop in here I suppose saying I'm rebuilding the xubuntu-core isos isn't that bad of spam. :P
[22:05] <ochosi> meh, Unit193 is sooo on-topic
[22:06] <flocculant> :)
[22:06] <Unit193> Nono, it's spam, 'community' stuff and all.
[22:06] <knome> the reason why we talk about poop and vomit is to make Unit193 more comfortable in this room
[22:06] <ochosi> flocculant: ever heard anything from that jenkins testing initiative again?
[22:06] <flocculant> ochosi: it's not dead
[22:06] <ochosi> oh, that's comforting news
[22:07] <flocculant> it does work mostly for ubuntu, there's issues getting it to work on flavours from the last update
[22:07] <flocculant> the guy who's been working on it I've not seen for a few weeks
[22:07] <Unit193> Also, everyone vote for which IRCC member looks best?
[22:08] <flocculant> ochosi: oh hang on
balloons: at this stage I would like to at least see that the image boots to a desktop
[22:08] <flocculant> balloons> right right. They were keen to see the same thing
[22:09] <flocculant> that was during one of the uos sessions apparently
[22:09] <ochosi> ok
[22:09] <flocculant> I do at least check that images boot properly once a day
[22:09] <ochosi> wow, that's definitely something we should automate
[22:10] <knome> ++
[22:10] <flocculant> that's what they're trying to do
[22:10] <flocculant> and just checking the manifest file size gives a clue that it's not gone horribly wrong too
[22:11] <flocculant> doesn't obviously prove it boots - but if the file is too small then it's not going to :)
[22:11] <ochosi> i haven't ever gotten into this myself, but wasn't there that ubuntu autopilot python app that helped with app-testing?
[22:12] * ochosi feels a bit silly for asking this
[22:12] <flocculant> ochosi: pretty sure that's what I'm talking about
[22:12] <Unit193> Thought so, but only GTK3.
[22:12] <flocculant> ochosi: there are 2 basic types - iso and packages
[22:12] <flocculant> packages hates gtk2
[22:12] <ochosi> thing is, in my current dayjob i work with jenkins a lot
[22:12] <flocculant> which is why we never got far
[22:12] <ochosi> right
[22:12] <ochosi> i wonder why it doesn't work with gtk2
[22:13] <flocculant> ochosi: I promise never to tell balloons
[22:13] <ochosi> flocculant: thank you.
[22:13] <flocculant> ochosi: it doesn't introspect properly - whatever that means
[22:13] <ochosi> oh that
[22:13] <ochosi> right, i guess there's nothing we can do about that, other than port xfce to gtk3
[22:13] <Unit193> Which'll be a sad day.
[22:14] <flocculant> and frankly - I don't mind that we don't get package testing - it's never going to be what people can do
[22:14] <flocculant> so - if we can kinda forget images as a daily issue I'd be happier
[22:14] <ochosi> Unit193: why? just keep using 4.12
[22:15] <ochosi> not sure, routine tests with apps can all be automated
[22:15] <ochosi> from what i learned, the LO guys even do some automated click-testing
[22:15] <ochosi> that works with *any* toolkit that accepts mouse-input
[22:16] <flocculant> ochosi: yes but we're finding more stuff with not routine use :)
[22:16] <ochosi> right, but then you can throw out all testcases ;)
[22:16] <ochosi> unless you decide to only write weird non-standard ones
[22:16] <knome> ochosi, i believe we could do that, but then it'd rely on mouse position instead of knowing that we are activating the right element
[22:17] <flocculant> ok - but then we have to hope people report things
[22:17] <ochosi> knome: if it's running in a fixed resolution automated environment that
[22:17] <ochosi> 's no problem
[22:17] <knome> don't we already have to hope for that even if they are running the predefined tests?
[22:17] <ochosi> flocculant: don't we have to hope that either way? :)
[22:17] <flocculant> knome: of course
[22:17] <flocculant> ochosi: ^^
[22:17] <ochosi> ;)
[22:17] <knome> ochosi, yeah, that's not the main problem - but what if some popup doesn't appear, or for some reason, the UI is off?
[22:18] <ochosi> knome: the UI is off..?
[22:18] <flocculant> but - at least we're asking people to test something AND saying report to the tracker anyway
[22:18] <ochosi> knome: if a popup doesn't appear, that's a bug, so the click-test found one. yay.
[22:18] <flocculant> not that we're getting much
[22:18] <knome> ochosi, an icon in a button is too large -> puts off all other buttons by X pixels?
[22:18] <knome> ochosi, and sure, it's finding bugs then, but meh
[22:18] <ochosi> knome: sounds like a bug to me!
[22:18] <knome> ochosi, if you ever change the UI, then you have to rewrite the test
[22:19] <knome> ochosi, but not if the test relies on gtk element ids
[22:19] <knome> and i guess figuring out if something went wrong is harder with the non-id stuff too
[22:19] <ochosi> well yes, i only mentioned the click tests as a last resort for classic "humans-only" things
[22:19] <ochosi> as an example of: even this can be automated
[22:19] <ochosi> not in the sense of: let's do all tests like that!
[22:20] <knome> sure
[22:20] <knome> besides, automated tests aren't exploratory either, they only test predefined scenarios too
[22:21] <knome> and most of the time start with a clean state
[22:22] <flocculant> which is why upgrade tests work
[22:22] <knome> :)
[22:22] <ochosi> exactly
[22:22] <ochosi> so they only are supposed to work in well-defined environments
[22:23] <flocculant> test should really say - add this bunch of random ppa's to the mix, make sure you have a prop graphics driver in use, fiddle with as many things as you can - then test it :D
[22:24] <flocculant> anyway - I'm off - night all :)
[22:25] <ochosi> night flocculant!
[22:46] <knome> krytarik, do we even need the language name list?
[22:46] <knome> krytarik, i don't think it's used by docbook internally, and we don't really refer to those entities manually either
[22:46] <krytarik> Yep, that's the list of native language names.
[22:46] <krytarik> For the translation links, that is.
[22:47] <knome> ok
[22:48] <knome> that looks like a good list
[22:48] <krytarik> \o/
[22:49] <krytarik> (For all other: http://paste.openstack.org/show/Zv2HRFVBuHzAEfhCtvjD/ )
[22:49] <krytarik> * others
[22:50] <knome> when can we expect to see a MP?
[22:51] <krytarik> Probably best to merge the current one first, and then I'll incorporate all the recent changes into mine.
[22:53] <krytarik> That is, I'll be trying to include them, and when further changes occur while I'm doing it, that'd be bad. :P
[22:57] <knome> ;)
[23:01] <krytarik> Btw, there are minor fixes for validation too, but not sure I should specifically list it. :P
[23:01] <knome> krytarik, where's the "current stuff"?
[23:02] <knome> not seeing in https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/+activereviews
[23:02] <krytarik> Well, I see one there :P - https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/updates/+merge/277329
[23:03] <knome> me too
[23:09] <krytarik> I mean, you could merge it after mine too, but then you'd need to take care of the changed ENTITY's at the top of the XMLs, I guess.
[23:09] <krytarik> Because it'd probably revert it.
[23:12] <knome> true
[23:13] <Unit193> Hrm, well is my old pre-bump all covered in the contributor docs now? Can I rm it?
[23:14] <knome> Unit193, bump to new version numbers?
[23:14] <Unit193> Well not as explictly, so I guess I'll hold on to it.
[23:17] <Unit193> And does the contributor docs really need to be !English? It's not like we'd really be able to work with any contributors that don't speak English, and the mailing lists require it.
[23:17] <knome> i've been thinking that too
[23:18] <Unit193> knome: domain/pre-bump.html
[23:18] <krytarik> Well, I think it's nice to offer the option to translate it anyway.
[23:18] <knome> Unit193, sigh, stop sending cryptic messages :P
[23:18] <krytarik> +1
[23:19] <Unit193> I'm trying to not spam that stupid ubuntulog.
[23:19] <Unit193> krytarik: Sure, but at the cost of having people put effort into translating it..
[23:21] <knome> one thing to consider now that XSD is there is if we want ANY translations for that
[23:21] <knome> it's sameish with licenses
[23:22] <knome> krytarik, ^ note that, we don't want to translate the CC license, so there's some reason to keep shipped-docs
[23:22] <krytarik> knome: I solved that though.
[23:22] <knome> aha.
[23:22] <knome> what about the strategy document?
[23:22] <knome> how do you solve that?
[23:22] <krytarik> Also, people forgot to update that file.
[23:22] <knome> maybe ;)
[23:22] <krytarik> If it's a separate XML, sure.
[23:23] <knome> i agree that life would be easier with that
[23:23] <knome> of course it's a separate xml file
[23:23] <krytarik> Then \o/
[23:24] <knome> so how do you solve that?
[23:24] <knome> a file that tells which files NOT to translate?
[23:24] <krytarik> Nope, just move it to 'libs-common'.
[23:24] * knome facepalms
[23:24] <knome> i don't think that can be the answer for everything
[23:24] <knome> it's NOT a common thing
[23:25] <krytarik> Well, we could move anywhere you want - just not leave it in the main docs dir.
[23:25] <knome> well...
[23:25] <knome> i'd actually rather have it there :]
[23:27] <krytarik> Oh, and yes, it's a common thing - between the C docs and the translations.
[23:27] <krytarik> Just not the most appropriate place maybe.
[23:27] <krytarik> "libs...", that is.
[23:28] <knome> well, yeah, kind of...
[23:28] <knome> i would be happy with a file that listed files excluded from translations
[23:28] <knome> of course that's not ideal either, but hey...
[23:28] <knome> that file could be in libs-common
[23:29] <knome> i don't think we will have the problem that there's a file with the same name in both docs and we want to translate the other but not the other :P
[23:29] <krytarik> And for the CC license, also shared between the two doc variants.
[23:29] <knome> that's fine where it is
[23:37] <krytarik> For XMLs specific to only *one* of the doc variants, I guess both the easiest and most transparent way to do it would be to create a subdir within the main docs dir for them.
[23:38] <krytarik> That way we don't have to maintain and parse a lists file for them.
[23:38] <knome> meh
[23:38] <knome> :)
[23:38] <krytarik> * list
[23:39] <knome> i wonder if there could be any way to add a docbook attribute or something that told the script creating the pot file to not include strings in that file
[23:40] <krytarik> That'd be one for *you* then, yep. :P
[23:41] <krytarik> Either way, that doesn't affect my current changes.
[23:42] <knome> well i don't think there is a way
[23:42] <knome> xml2po is very simple
[23:50] <knome> krytarik, flocculant's merge is done, ready to take your MP
[23:50] <krytarik> Ugh. :D
[23:50] <knome> ;)=
[23:50] <krytarik> I'll work on it tomorrow.
[23:50] <krytarik> Because I'll have to merge quite some files manually.
[23:51] <knome> :)
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.002183
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"channel": "#xubuntu-devel"
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-nl
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[13:28] <kaiten21> hoi hoi ben nieuw hier, en wil graag ubuntu/linux instaleren,wat waar en hoe.
[13:34] <lordievader> kaiten21: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/Installatie
[14:20] <kaiten21> heb ubuntu 14.04.3desktop ...64.iso op usb,maar wil niet op dvd+R branden met win dvd branden.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> kaiten21: heb je een lege usb ergens?
[14:21] <kaiten21> heb een lege usb juist geformat
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> kaiten21: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:21] <kaiten21> ok
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> kaiten21: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[14:24] <lordievader> Of de Nederlandse versie: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/InstallatieLiveUSB
[14:33] <kaiten21> syst = win 32 home pemium , welk versie down l.?
[14:34] <lordievader> Welke versie waarvan?
[14:35] <kaiten21> van ubunte zijn er twee 32 en 64
[14:36] <lordievader> kaiten21: Ah. Wat voor een cpu heb je en hoeveel ram?
[14:39] <kaiten21> dual cpu T2370 geinstl fys 3.00 gb beschkb fysiek 1.96
[14:40] <lordievader> Oh, dan zou ik voor 64bit gaan.
[14:40] <kaiten21> ok
[14:43] <kaiten21> heb bijde ,ubutu.co +wiki ubuntu-nl , en dan
[14:55] <lordievader> Wat?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> kaiten21: heb je 2 iso's gedownload misschien?
[14:56] <kaiten21> heb universal usb installer-1.9.6.2+ubuntu 14.04.3 desktop amd 64.iso
[14:56] <kaiten21> op usb stick
[14:57] <lordievader> Laat de iso op je desktop staan zowel als de installer. Voer dan de installer uit.
[14:58] <lordievader> Geef de installer het pad naar de iso en naar de usb stick en laat hem zijn gang gaan.
[14:58] <kaiten21> heb ook eenniew vol, waar op ik deze wil zetten (L)
[14:58] <lordievader> Wat bedoel je?
[14:59] <kaiten21> heb een nieuwe partietie aan gemaakt , waar op ik dit wil instaleren.
[15:00] <lordievader> Dat is pas later van belang, eerst dien je een live-usb te maken.
[15:00] <kaiten21> had iik dacht ik op usb (universal usb installer 1.9.6.2
[15:01] <lordievader> Heb je die ook uitgevoerd/daarmee een live-usb gemaakt?
[15:04] <kaiten21> als ik de installer open vraagt deze , om beverstiging toestaan , ja, dan krijg ik agremen , ja en dan vraagt hij een linux distribution from drop douwn to put on your usb
[15:05] <lordievader> kaiten21: Als het goed is kun je daar ook wel een iso specificeren.
[15:05] <lordievader> Kan in iedergeval in unetbootin.
[15:06] <OerHeks> 2 manieren idd, via de tool downloaden óf je eigen iso gebruiken
[15:06] <OerHeks> wijst zich vanzelf, vind ik.
[15:07] <kaiten21> ja maar ben al over de 65 , en geen nerd
[15:08] <OerHeks> neem je tijd :-)
[15:08] <kaiten21> als ik dat venster open , zie ik ubuntu, edbuntu,linux mint enz
[15:09] <kaiten21> tijd , plenty, inzicht 0
[15:09] <OerHeks> daarmee download je de iso nogmaals, maar een stukje daaronder staat een vlak waar je je eigen iso kunt invoeren.
[15:10] <OerHeks> bel anders je kleinzoon op, dan is die ook weer eens nuttig :-D
[15:11] <kaiten21> er gebeurt iets ????
[15:12] <OerHeks> soms moet je die stappen eerst zien, om na te doen. hier een video https://youtu.be/dIYgQQgXWZM?t=40s
[15:12] <kaiten21> heeft geen tijd , zoals de meesten, ik moet het zelf uit zoeken , lukt eestal wel , duur alleen wat langer.
[16:04] <kaiten21> hoi hoi , als ikaororun aan klik vraagt dexe wubi.exe. wubi vraagt demo en volledige instalatie leg cd in lade ???
[16:05] <kaiten21> heb geen cd.
[16:08] <lordievader> Wubi wil je niet. Als je de live-usb hebt gemaakt wil je daarvanaf opstarten.
[16:08] <lordievader> http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/InstallatieLiveUSB#De_Live_USB-stick_gebruiken
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.019496
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"OerHeks",
"kaiten21",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nl"
}
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:37] <rick_h__> evening
[00:47] <_stink_> yo
[00:53] <rick_h__> we having fun?
[01:16] <_stink_> 3 kids bath and bed
[01:16] <_stink_> no. :P
[01:40] <cmaloney> Heading to CHC
[01:40] <cmaloney> brb
[02:03] <Scary_Guy> hey, on the off chance that any of you are near Allan Park and have extra thermal paste, I'm building a computer and don't have any
[02:05] <Scary_Guy> or if any of you know a computer store that keeps late late hours and doesn't charge a premium for it, that would be nice too
[02:05] <cmaloney> Wish I could help on both counts
[02:05] <cmaloney> Microcenter is the only place I can think of and they close at 10pm
[02:06] <Scary_Guy> shit, if I drive like crazy I might make it, thought they closed at 9?
[02:06] <cmaloney> THought Best Buy had thermal paste at one point but haven't stepped foot in one in a while
[02:06] <Scary_Guy> maybe I can get my friend to get some
[02:06] <cmaloney> Checking site
[02:07] <Scary_Guy> that's cool, no need, I have the interweb too
[02:07] <cmaloney> Dammit, you're right
[02:07] <cmaloney> they're closed.
[02:07] <Scary_Guy> thanks a ton
[07:25] <Scary_Guy> anyone here have jabber+otr? I just got bitlbee working and no friends are online
[08:37] <Scary_Guy> never mind, he showed up
[15:04] <cmaloney> Morning, btw.
[15:07] <_stink_> yo
[15:33] <rick_h_> morn
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ubuntu-chat
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"Scary_Guy",
"_stink_",
"cmaloney",
"rick_h_",
"rick_h__"
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"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/12/%23ubuntu-us-mi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-mi"
}
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-pt
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[04:17] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[20:05] <hexhaxtron> lusitan, olá!
[22:21] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.024275
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"authors": [
"astroo-",
"hexhaxtron"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/12/%23ubuntu-pt.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-ir
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[12:47] <alimaleki> slm
[12:47] <alimaleki> سلام
[12:47] <alimaleki> یه کمک میخواستم
[12:48] <alimaleki> کسی هست ؟؟؟
[20:40] <sadegh> سلام
[20:40] <sadegh> خسته نباشید
[20:40] <sadegh> ییخشید نرم افزار های اوبونتو رو از کجا میتونم دانلود کنم؟
[20:40] <ma3x> salam
[20:41] <ma3x> che narm afzari mikhay?
[20:41] <sadegh> هر چی
[20:41] <ma3x> خب
[20:41] <sadegh> کلا
[20:41] <ma3x> لینوکس مثل ویندوز نیست
[20:41] <ma3x> که مثلا دانلود کنی نرمافزارهاشو
[20:41] <ma3x> توی لینوکس یک چیزی داریم به نام مخزن
[20:42] <ma3x> یا repository
[20:42] <ma3x> تقریبا همه برنامهها اینتو هستش
[20:42] <ma3x> وقتی apt update میکنی
[20:42] <ma3x> لیست مخازن بروز میشه
[20:42] <ma3x> وقتی مثلا میگی
[20:42] <ma3x> apt install firefox
[20:42] <ma3x> نرمافزار فایرفاکس از مخزن دانلود و نصب میشه
[20:43] <sadegh> آها
[20:43] <ma3x> اینطوری همه بستهها یک جا میمونه
[20:43] <ma3x> و میتونی کل نرمافزارهای لینوکس رو با یک دستور آپدیت کنی
[20:43] <ma3x> apt upgrade
[20:43] <ma3x> بهجای اینکه هر نرمافزار به طور مجزا آپدیت بشه
[20:43] <sadegh> نرم افزاری هست که بشه نرم افزار ویندوز رو روش نصب یا اجرا کرد؟
[20:44] <ma3x> wine
[20:44] <ma3x> اما در کل سعی کن معادلش رو توی لینوکس پیدا کنی
[20:44] <sadegh> اها
[20:45] <sadegh> wine
[20:45] <sadegh> ????
[20:45] <ma3x> مخفف
[20:45] <ma3x> wine is no an emulator
[20:45] <ma3x> یه نرمافزار هست
[20:45] <sadegh> خیلی ممنون
[20:45] <sadegh> لطف کردین
[20:45] <ma3x> که میتونی باهاش نرمافزارهای ویندوز رو اجرا کنی
[20:46] <sadegh> بله
[20:46] <ma3x> wine is not* an emulator
[20:46] <sadegh> مرسی
[20:46] <ma3x> yw
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.031759
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"authors": [
"alimaleki",
"ma3x",
"sadegh"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-ir.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-se
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[13:22] <huttan> Gomorron
[13:22] <andol> huttan: Tidszon? :)
[13:32] <marsupapu> Gomorron har alltid låtat sför mig som Gomorra
[13:32] <marsupapu> Har det så trevligt dag, GOMORRA!
[13:47] <huttan> andol: Sverige :)
[14:24] <Hund> Gomorra får mig att tänka på gonorré.
[15:02] <marsupapu> Men det var troligen ganska vanlig problem i Gomorra :D
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.034931
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Hund",
"andol",
"huttan",
"marsupapu"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-se.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-se"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-eg
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[18:29] <EgyParadox> !
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.036045
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"EgyParadox"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-eg.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-eg"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-ru
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[08:54] <tagezi> утра всем
[09:44] <SergeyIT> утра
[12:40] <andrex> @op
[12:40] <andrex> :D
[12:47] <andrex> @op
[12:47] <andrex> ubuntuhelp, казьель
[18:45] <Sergey_IT> вечера
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.038725
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"SergeyIT",
"Sergey_IT",
"andrex",
"tagezi"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-ru.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-it
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[09:50] <Roby-UB22> Salve, sono nuovo e ho da poco installato Ubuntu 14-04-lts.
[09:51] <Roby-UB22> Vorrei sostituire la password del dell'hard disk, qualcuno mi sa dare indicazioni? Grazie
[09:52] <Carlin0> Roby-UB22, hai criptato i dati ?
[09:53] <Roby-UB22> Penso di sì, durante la l'installazione mi ha chiesto se volevo la password sul disco è l'ho inserita. Ora la vorrei cambiare
[09:55] <Carlin0> non sono pratico di questa cosa , mi spiace , non l'ho mai usata
[09:56] <Roby-UB22> Grazie lo stesso.... Aspetto altri 10 min per vedere se c'è qualcuno che mi sa dire come si fa.
[09:57] <Carlin0> Roby-UB22, vedi se ti può essere utile questo http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Sicurezza/Cryptkeeper
[09:58] <Carlin0> al massimo prova a ripassare nel pomeriggio
[09:59] <Roby-UB22> Grazie, provo a studiarmi il Cryptkeeper, e se non risolvo provo più tardi.
[11:26] <Ignazio> ciao ragazzi è la sezione giusta per risolvere problemi nell'installazione di ubuntu?
[11:27] <nwdg> vorrei installare in dual boot ubuntu nel mio laptoop con win10, l'installazione di win10 é UEFI, devo per forza impostare il bios a legacy per fare il boot da ubuntu live su un drive usb?
[11:29] <ExPBoy> !uefi
[11:29] <ubot-it> UEFI è una specifica che definisce una interfaccia software tra un sistema operativo e le piattaforme firmware, è intesa come un sostituto del BIOS. Per informazioni su come impostare e installare Ubuntu su macchine UEFI vedi http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/UEFI | vedi anche https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[11:30] <ExPBoy> !installazione
[11:30] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[11:31] <ExPBoy> !usbwin
[11:31] <ubot-it> Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[11:31] <ExPBoy> ok credo basti :)
[11:31] <Ignazio> sto cercando di installare ubuntu tramite cd ma all'avvio del pc e selezionando la modalità cd esce fuori a scritta "rebbot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device"
[11:32] <ExPBoy> Ignazio, ormai solo dvd o usb i cd non sono bastano
[11:32] <Ignazio> scusami intendevo dvd
[11:33] <ExPBoy> come hai fatto il dvd?
[11:34] <ExPBoy> !masterizzazione
[11:34] <ubot-it> masterizzazione is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Multimedia/Masterizzazione
[11:34] <ExPBoy> !iso
[11:34] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[11:38] <Ignazio> il dvd l ho fatto cliccando con il tasto destro sull'immagine iso e dando il comando masterizza immagine sul disco, naturalmente a quel punto parte nero
[11:39] <ExPBoy> scrivi immagine su disco
[11:40] <ExPBoy> se non parte èuò essere daneggiata kla iso che hai scaricato
[11:40] <ExPBoy> !md5
[11:40] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[11:40] <ExPBoy> controlla la iso e al limite riscarica e masterizza a bassa velocità
[11:41] <ExPBoy> se propio vuoi usare dvd altrimenti usa USB
[12:09] <tux17> Salve ragazzi, non so se qualcuno si ricorda di me e del problema che cercavo di risolvere ieri
[12:09] <tux17> volevo dirvi che ho risoltoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :):):)
[12:31] <ginolino> ciao a tutti
[12:33] <ginolino> qualcuno online?
[12:43] <ExPBoy> !qualcuno
[12:43] <ubot-it> la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[13:00] <ginolino> ok, ho ubuntu 13.04, ho provato ad installare la 15.04, ma nn son riuscito xche' nn me la legge, ho provato sia da dvd che da usb, entrando nel bios e modificando la sequenza di boot. qualche dritta?
[13:32] <easy> salve scusate ma se inserisco un hard disk in formato ntfs ubuntu me lo legge ?
[15:39] <doom_> salve ho una vecchia chiavetta della 3 modello Huawei E156G che mi è stata data nel frattempo riparano il mio modem wi fi ma non so proprio come farla funzionare non me la vede nemmeno come memoria di massa usb
[15:39] <krabador> doom_, ubuntu quale?
[15:41] <doom_> krabador ubuntu 14.04 con gnome desktop
[15:41] <krabador> doom_, inseriscila, dmesg | tail
[15:42] <krabador> !pastebin | doom_
[15:42] <ubot-it> doom_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[15:47] <doom_> krabador-
[15:47] <doom_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13503183/
[15:48] <krabador> doom_, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:48] <krabador> doom_, lsusb | pastebinit
[15:49] <doom_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13503212/
[15:50] <krabador> doom_, da network manager non riesci a creare connessione a banda larga mobile?
[15:51] <dartaek> salve volevo sapere cos'è la versione server di Ubuntu Grazie
[15:51] <doom_> krabador_ no
[15:51] <doom_> non lavado
[15:52] <doom_> non la vedo
[15:52] <Carlin0> dartaek, cosa non ti è chiaro di server
[15:52] <krabador> dartaek, ubuntu per server
[15:53] <dartaek> cioè è la versione grezza diciamo dove si usano solo comandi da tastiera ?
[15:53] <krabador> doom_, installa questo http://www.sakis3g.com/
[15:53] <krabador> segui le istruzioni
[15:53] <krabador> dartaek, una versione concepita per server, senza ambiente grafico
[15:54] <Carlin0> dartaek, https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server
[15:54] <krabador> dartaek, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[15:55] <dartaek> ah ok grazie ragazzi!! Un' ultima cosa: ma per caso esiste un manuale in pdf che esplichi tutti i comandi da tastiera per il terminale oppure posso consultare solo il sito?
[15:57] <krabador> !terminale | dadexix86
[15:57] <ubot-it> dadexix86: Guida alla riga di comando: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/RigaDiComando vedi anche !bash
[15:57] <krabador> !terminale | dartaek
[15:57] <ubot-it> dartaek: Guida alla riga di comando: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/RigaDiComando vedi anche !bash
[15:57] <krabador> !bash | dartaek
[15:57] <ubot-it> dartaek: bash is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Programmazione/LinguaggioBash
[15:58] <dartaek> ok come avevo fatto io Grazie mille e complimenti per il proggetto !!
[15:59] <dartaek> Molto esauriente Ciao :) ;)
[16:02] <cristian_c> il proggetto seefer
[16:02] <cristian_c> server
[16:06] <doom_> krabador , grazie per l'aiuto la chiavetta funziona
[16:06] <krabador> de nata
[16:06] <krabador> *nada
[16:06] <doom_> ;-)
[16:07] <doom_> krabador _ il software lo trovo tra le applicazioni per connetere la chiavetta?
[16:16] <krabador> il software lo trovi dove l'hai scaricato
[16:35] <Scude> ciao!! chi di voi ha google chrome su ubuntu 15.10?
[16:35] <cristian_c> Scude: è un sondaggio?
[16:35] <Carlin0> Scude, qual'è il problema ?
[16:36] <Scude> no non è un sondaggio, è per capire se è realmente possibile installarlo. è da giorni che ci provo
[16:37] <Carlin0> Scude, rispondi a me ...qual'è il problema ?
[16:37] <cristian_c> Scude: e allora perché non fai direttamente la richiesta?
[16:37] <cristian_c> invece di questi preamboli
[16:37] <Carlin0> Scude, hai scaricato il file deb dal sito ?
[16:38] <krabador> Scude, senti
[16:38] <krabador> non è credibile
[16:38] <krabador> che sono giorni
[16:38] <Scude> l'ho scaricato da qui http://google-chrome.it.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[16:38] <krabador> che non riesci a digitare ed inviare sudo dpkg -i nomepacchetto.deb
[16:39] <krabador> con nomepacchetto, che deve essere il nome corretto del pacchetto scaricato
[16:40] <Carlin0> Scude, https://www.google.it/chrome/browser/desktop/ questo è il sito originale
[16:40] <krabador> nel terminale, devi stare nella cartella in cui è dentro il file
[16:41] <krabador> altrimenti sudo dpkg -i /percorso/del/pacchetto/nomepacchetto.deb
[16:48] <Carlin0> Scude, ce la fai a scaricare dal link che ti ho dato ?
[16:49] <Scude> ho provato 4 o 5 volte ma mi dice sempre errore
[16:49] <Carlin0> hai provato cosa ?
[16:49] <krabador> Scude, certo , tipo "file non esistente"
[16:49] <krabador> perchè sbagli il nome del file
[16:49] <krabador> o non sei nella cartella che lo contiene
[16:49] <krabador> o tutt'e 2
[16:50] <Carlin0> il bello è che non ti risponde ...
[16:50] <krabador> Scude, apri il terminale , digita sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:50] <krabador> esatto
[16:50] <krabador> Scude, premi invio
[16:50] <Scude> ma il terminale da dove lo devo aprire?
[16:50] <Carlin0> cmq dopo installato ci va un apt -f per le dipendenze
[16:50] <krabador> Scude, dai, ma non hai veramente niente da fare?
[16:51] <krabador> Carlin0, un passo alla volta
[16:51] <krabador> Carlin0, da come vedi .
[16:51] <cristian_c> Scude: ci sono vari modi
[16:51] <cristian_c> per aprire un terminale
[16:51] <Scude> sono appena sbarcato su ubuntu, non pretendere che sia un genio
[16:51] <krabador> cristian_c, aspetta che risponda, per favore
[16:52] <krabador> Scude, non pretendo che sia un genio, ma che tu sappia cliccare in alto a sinistra, sull'icona, e vedere nell'elenco delle applicazioni installate
[16:52] <krabador> Scude, poi, se dici "<Scude> ho provato 4 o 5 volte ma mi dice sempre errore"
[16:53] <krabador> il terminale l'hai aperto
[16:53] <krabador> quindi, non è questione di pretendere che tu sia un genio, ma che non prenda in giro
[16:53] <krabador> i volontari di questo canale.
[16:54] <Scude> ma non sto prendendo in giro nessuno
[16:54] <krabador> e allora lo sai aprire il terminale ?
[16:55] <Scude> si, ma dato che ci sono vari modi magari lo apro nel modo sbagliato, oppure da ogni posto che lo apro è sempre la stessa cosa?
[16:56] <krabador> Scude, comunque si apra, devi, all'interno, sempre mandare il comando cd /cartella , con il nome esatto della cartella
[16:56] <krabador> per andare nella cartella in cui è dentro il file
[16:56] <krabador> non puoi dire al terminale a secco di interagire in con un file
[16:57] <krabador> in quanto appena lo apri, lui è operativo nella cartella /home/utente
[16:58] <Scude> per indirizzarlo in una cartella specifica cosa devo scrivere? supponendo che lo voglia mandare in /home/utente/scaricati
[16:59] <DivSalv> lo ha già scritto sopra
[16:59] <krabador> Scude, puoi aprire il gestore file, andare nella catella in questione, cliccare tasto destro e selezionare "apri nel terminale"
[16:59] <krabador> oppure aprire il terminale , digitare, (e 2 ) cd /home/utente/scaricati
[16:59] <krabador> invio
[16:59] <krabador> attento alle maiuscole e minuscole
[17:00] <krabador> puoi, nel terminale digitare cd, e parte del nome della cartella, premendo tab, potrai vedere se all'interno della posizione in cui sei , c'è qualcosa con quel nome
[17:00] <krabador> ti ricordo che appena lo apri, con l'eseguibile, o con ctrl alt t, sei in /home/utente
[17:01] <DivSalv> Scude: sembri prorpio all'inizio con linux, ti consiglio di leggere questo sito: http://linuxguide.altervista.org/
[17:01] <Scude> ok ci sono. Ora scrivo sudo dpkg -i nomedelpacchetto.deb
[17:02] <Scude> grazie mille
[17:02] <krabador> Scude, se sei nella cartella giusta, digita ls -la
[17:02] <krabador> invio
[17:03] <krabador> e lui ti fa vedere cosa c'è dentro
[17:03] <krabador> in modo che puoi controllare il nome del file
[17:05] <krabador> DivSalv, puoi indicare guide ufficiali della comunità ?
[17:05] <krabador> per favore, giusto perchè sei nel canale ufficiale italiano di supporto al sistema operativo ubuntu
[17:05] <krabador> che ha un wiki molto grande
[17:05] <krabador> pieno di pagine informative su una marea di aspetti
[17:05] <krabador> DivSalv, non so se c'hai mai fatto caso
[17:06] <DivSalv> scusa, volevo solo segnalare un sito in cui vengono spiegate le basi di linux, credevo che gli servisse.
[17:07] <krabador> DivSalv, che cosa hai fatto è evidente
[17:07] <Scude> il nome del pacchetto è giusto, mi dice problemi con le dipendenze inpediscono la configurazione di google-chrome-stable, google-chrome-stable dipende da libappindicatori, il quale non è installato
[17:07] <krabador> DivSalv, hai mai fatto caso che nel wiki ubuntu ci sono le basi?
[17:07] <krabador> Scude, sudo apt-get -yf install
[17:07] <krabador> cosi' come lo vedi
[17:07] <krabador> invio
[17:08] <DivSalv> si, per le prossime segnalazioni userò le paggine di wiki, io cmq sono un utente, che in passato è già stato aiutato in questo canale.
[17:11] <krabador> DivSalv, bene. molto semplicemente, di fronte ad utenti inesperti, qui dentro ci si puo' prendere la responsabilità solo di cio' che dice la documentazione ufficiale. Entrare e incollare fonti esterne, anche se possono contenere contenuti drasticamente corretti , non è corretto nei confronti dell'utente che chiede supporto , dovesse avere problemi con cio' che ha letto all'esterno della documentazione ufficiale
[17:11] <Scude> krabador dopo aver scritto quello ripeto l'installazione con sudo dpkg -i nomepacchetto.deb?
[17:15] <DivSalv> krabador: ricevito :)
[17:15] <krabador> Scude, no
[17:15] <krabador> Scude, ti configura da solo il pacchetto che gli ha fatto dire che c'erano problemi con le dipendenze
[17:16] <krabador> DivSalv, detto questo, sei il benvenuto :D
[17:17] <DivSalv> ne approfitto per chiedere delle info sul programma screen:)
[17:17] <Scude> krabador grazie di tutto. ha funzionato ed ora finalmente posso navigare su chrome! gentilissimo!
[17:18] <krabador> di niente
[17:18] <DivSalv> visto che uso linux principalmente per programmare in C/C++ preferisco usare il terminale TTY, ed usando screen posso avere molte sessioni di terminale già aperte, cambiando con un solo tasto, mi chiedevo se è possibile aggiungere u indicatore della batteria sulla barra di stato di screen?
[17:19] <krabador> DivSalv, io personalmente non lo uso, non saprei
[17:19] <DivSalv> ok, grazie
[17:27] <alessandro76> salve, come faccio con ubuntu al collegare il tv smart tramite dlna? grazie
[17:28] <krabador> alessandro76, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/Dlna
[17:28] <krabador> cosi'
[17:30] <alessandro76> è complicato, non credo di avere le competenze per fare questa procedura
[17:31] <cristian_c> alessandro76: ma vuoi riprodurre i contenuti sul tv usando ubuntu come server?
[17:32] <alessandro76> ho un video in mp4 sul pc con ubuntu e vorrei tramite dlna poterlo vedere nel televisore smart
[17:32] <cristian_c> alessandro76: perché proprio dlna?
[17:33] <alessandro76> ho altre strade?
[17:34] <krabador> alessandro76, allora, linux puo' essere "complicato" , ma, ti chiedo, è complicato sapere quali protocolli di rete supporta il tuo televisore?
[17:34] <krabador> in base a quelli puoi impostare condivisione di contenuti in altri modi
[17:34] <alessandro76> non so è un lg 32lf580v
[17:36] <krabador> alessandro76, ecco, a questo punto ti chiedo, ti sembra giusto essere completamente disinformato, sul sistema che usi e sul televisore che vuoi usare?
[17:36] <alessandro76> no è solo che sono alle prime armi in queste cose
[17:37] <krabador> alessandro76, allora, prendi il manuale del televisore, che noi non siamo tenuti a conoscere, e consulta la sezione dedicata alla rete
[17:37] <krabador> in base a quella, possiamo parlare qui , di come puoi fare a farci interagire ubuntu
[17:38] <alessandro76> pensavo che fosse semplice come con lo smarphone
[17:39] <krabador> alessandro76, non supporre
[17:39] <krabador> verifica
[18:52] <joke2k> Ciao a tutti, devo configurare l'accesso ad una VPN ma non so bene come fare. chi può aiutarmi?
[18:55] <krabador> joke2k, network manager
[18:55] <joke2k> krabador, ho installato network-manager-openvpn
[18:55] <joke2k> ma non so come accedere con le informazioni che mi hanno fornito
[18:56] <joke2k> cioè un certificato .crt, un file .p12, una coppia di username/password e un gateway
[18:58] <krabador> joke2k, connessioni vpn --- aggiungi
[18:59] <joke2k> metto OpenVPN, poi devo scegliere la tipologia di autenticazione
[18:59] <joke2k> cioè tra: Certificates (TLS), Password, Password with Certificates (TLS) e Static key
[19:06] <joke2k> krabador, la prima e la terza modalità (quelle con TLS), mi chiede la PrivateKey che io non ho, l'unico metodo di che posso salvare è quello "Password" dove mi chiedeil CA Certificate
[19:47] <lollo97> ciao a tutti,avrei delle domande da fare,qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[19:51] <ilovelinux> !chiedi | lollo97
[19:51] <ubot-it> lollo97: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[19:52] <lollo97> ah ok grazie :)
[19:57] <lollo97> sul portatile con una scheda video integrada da 128 mb potrebbe girare buntu,senza darmi problemi?
[19:57] <lollo97> integrata* ubuntu*
[19:59] <Gabriele> Salve
[20:00] <Gabriele> Ciao
[20:02] <DivSalv> lollo97:io ho installato lubuntu su un Acer Aspire ONE, ubuntu è un pò + pesante, ma dovrebbe andare lo stesso
[20:04] <cristian_c> lollo97: altre caratteristiche del portatile?
[20:06] <lollo97> 2.16ghz,4 gb di ram,scheda video intel graphic hd integrata
[20:06] <lollo97> sono quei portatili che vendono a 250/300 euro
[20:06] <cristian_c> lollo97: processore?
[20:07] <lollo97> intel celeron 2860
[20:07] <DivSalv> è simile al mio portatile con win 10(ma prima c'era ubuntu, e gira tranquillamente)
[20:07] <cristian_c> lollo97: scarica il file .iso di ubuntu, masterizzalo su dvd o crea un supporto usb tramite universal usb installer
[20:08] <lollo97> e invece per kali linux,non ho capito che requisiti ci vogliono
[20:08] <cristian_c> infine fai il boot da usb e scegli la modalità di prova
[20:08] <cristian_c> lollo97: qui non si da supporto a kali linux
[20:08] <lollo97> ah scusa allora
[20:08] <DivSalv> appunto, i file iso di linux sono anche live, credo anche kali
[20:08] <cristian_c> !buntu
[20:08] <ubot-it> Non tutto ciò che finisce per *buntu è ufficiale, non diamo supporto a derivate Ubuntu non ufficiali o non riconosciute. Supporto solo per http://www.ubuntu-it.org/progetti-derivati.shtml
[20:09] <cristian_c> !usbwin | lollo97
[20:09] <ubot-it> lollo97: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[20:09] <cristian_c> !iso | lollo97
[20:09] <ubot-it> lollo97: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[20:09] <lollo97> grazie :)
[20:10] <lollo97> poi avrei da chiedere un'altra cosa
[20:13] <lollo97> come faccio a sapere se una scheda video ha l'accellerazione 3d?
[20:34] <lollo97> qualcuno conosce il sito online PROKOO?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.053567
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-es
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[04:15] <oswaldo> hola
[04:18] <Itxshell> Buenas noches
[10:05] <Tiffon> nas
[12:48] <salapin> nas tardes, quiero compartir un directorio concretamente "Música" con mi smartphone Android atrevés de ES File Explorer. El tema es el siguiente..
[12:48] <salapin> en realidad lo que quiero hacer es sincronizar toda la música que tengo en el smartphone y la Tablet con el PC, actuando este como un servidor
[12:48] <salapin> la sincronización la hago con Folder Sync
[12:49] <salapin> el tema es .... lo que no acabo de entender
[12:49] <salapin> es si debo crear un nuevo usuario en ubuntu para poder añadirlo a con smbpasswd -a nombredelnuevousuario
[12:49] <salapin> pero no quiero que este usuario aparezca en el login ... asignadole un id debajo de 1000
[12:49] <salapin> no aparece en el lightdm
[12:50] <salapin> no se si estoy orientando bien el tema....
[12:50] <salapin> que me aconsejais que haga¿
[13:21] <guampa> salapin: no necesitas un nuevo usuario, podes compartir con un usuario existente
[13:22] <salapin> como guampa
[13:22] <salapin> en mi pc solo hay un usuario
[13:22] <salapin> que soy yo
[13:22] <salapin> :P
[13:23] <salapin> ahora quiero que mi g3 tenga acceso a copiar archivos
[13:23] <salapin> en doble sentido
[18:09] <ralf_09> buenas tardes, tengo una duda existencial, actualmente tengo un centro de datos donde todo lo virtualizo con kvm, me a surgido el gusanito de usar openstack, pero no tengo claro su uso, y como se relaciona con juju y maas, etc, alguien que pueda resolverme algunas dudas de novato, porque aunque leo y releo no me queda muy claro
[19:23] <successus> salud o/
[20:04] <albert_> hola
[21:46] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.060903
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-us-wi
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[23:57] <tsimonq2> mikeputnam: ping
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.062114
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2015-11-25-#juju
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[00:22] <pmatulis_> using juju-quickstart can i specify the maas node i want to use as bootstrap server?
[00:30] <marcoceppi> pmatulis_: good question, not sure. You can pre-bootstrap the environment then use quickstart
[00:32] <rick_h_> pmatulis_: I think you can pass --constraints to the quickstart command
[00:33] <rick_h_> pmatulis_: see juju-quickstart --help for the note on constraints
[00:34] <pmatulis_> alright guys, looking
[00:44] <pmatulis_> i would love to know why the tags i created (and can list) with the maas cli do not show up in the maas gui...
[00:47] <marcoceppi> pmatulis_: what version of maas?
[00:48] <pmatulis_> marcoceppi: 1.8
[00:53] * marcoceppi shrugs
[02:08] <pmatulis_> rick_h_, marcoceppi: do you guys know if juju-deployer is being actively maintained? who supports that?
[02:11] <rick_h_> pmatulis_: as needed between folks on eco and landacape
[02:11] <rick_h_> pmatulis_: what's up?
[02:12] <pmatulis_> rick_h_: i just wanted to know if it is being maintained in some way
[02:12] <rick_h_> pmatulis_: there's been work to do juju deploy the bundle withoit extra tools
[02:12] <rick_h_> pmatulis_: in the next version of juju
[02:13] <pmatulis_> ok
[02:13] <rick_h_> pmatulis_: it's mostly maintenance as we support bundles in core
[02:29] <pmatulis_> rick_h_: ack
[09:59] <maht> hi, I just installed Juju and the GUI in a MAAS cluster in a private network, and I am trying to connect to Juju GUI from Safari and Chrome using a SSH tunnel to the Juju GUI. In Safari it connect without problems, but with Chrome it keeps trying to switch to SSL despite the secure option of juju-gui service have been set to false
[13:12] <Xat`> hi guys
[13:12] <Xat`> is juju needed for maas ?
[13:23] <bloodearnest> hey folks. I'm writing a very simple subordinate for managing some files/config. It's only relation is the subordinate relation to it's primary charm
[13:23] <bloodearnest> I'm also trying to learn the reactive framework in the process
[13:24] <bloodearnest> the main thing I want to hook into is config-chagned, but its not obvious how to do that, at least from the examples
[13:25] <bloodearnest> is it as simple as when('config-changed') ?
[13:27] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: @hook('config-changed')
[13:30] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh, that is charmhelpers.hookenv.hook ? Or some reactive hook decorator
[13:30] <bloodearnest> ?
[13:31] <tvansteenburgh> bloodearnest: charms.reactive.decorators.hook
[13:31] <tvansteenburgh> https://pythonhosted.org/charms.reactive/charms.reactive.decorators.html
[13:32] <bloodearnest> tvansteenburgh, ta
[14:23] <bloodearnest> using reactive, do I *have* to write a relation class? Can I somehow used the default RelationBase class or similar?
[14:24] <jacekn> hello. What is the best way to get new layer I wrote into http://interfaces.juju.solutions/ ?
[14:29] <lazypower> jacekn if you have a launchpad account, you can self publish the layer in the index.
[14:29] <lazypower> jacekn top left corner theres a login with launchpad link
[14:31] <jacekn> aha, let me do that
[14:33] <lazypower> bloodearnest: Its kind of a packaged deal, yes
[14:34] <lazypower> bloodearnest: early adopters get to define the interface(s) - but think of all the people coming along after you that will see the interface and get to consume it without any investment :)
[14:40] <bloodearnest> lazypower, so, I'm confused. I am writing a new charm, that provides 1 relation. I am trying to use @when('relation.available') to trigger logic to send certain information down the relation when it's added.
[14:40] <bloodearnest> to do that, I need a class that sets the 'state' to 'available' some how, right?
[14:40] <lazypower> bloodearnest 1 sec
[14:40] <lazypower> i have a doc for you
[14:41] <lazypower> bloodearnest start here: https://github.com/mbruzek/docs/blob/mbruzek-developer-guide/src/en/developer-layers-interfaces.md
[14:41] <lazypower> bloodearnest: implementation is here https://github.com/mbruzek/docs/blob/mbruzek-developer-guide/src/en/developer-layers-interfaces2.md
[14:43] <bloodearnest> lazypower, so, my charm should have 2 layers (+base) then: the interface layer, and the 'charm' layer?
[14:43] * bloodearnest again wishes provides and requires where not the terms used in juju
[14:44] <lazypower> bloodearnest correct, as its completely reasonable to have a charm which has no relations. It may not be the most useful, but its a use-case :)
[14:44] <bloodearnest> especially since my charm is a subordinate that provides a service to the principle charm, but the relation has to be "requires", not provides
[14:44] <bloodearnest> lazypower, right
[14:45] <lazypower> bloodearnest: the idea behind having the interfaces as a separate layer, is it breaks apart the conversation happening between units, and the implementation - that decoupling is giving you a consistent contract to talk to whichever service is implementing the interface you are including in your charm layer
[14:45] <bloodearnest> yep
[14:45] <bloodearnest> make sense to bind the two
[14:45] <bloodearnest> side of the relation
[14:50] <bloodearnest> lazypower, can I define this layer in the same place as the charm layer, or does it need to be complete separate?
[14:50] <lazypower> by convention it needs to be separate
[14:50] <lazypower> when you charm build, it will scan your INTERFACE_PATH to find the interface and build the associated hooks for you
[14:51] <lazypower> bloodearnest - thats covered ni the developer-layers-interfaces2.md file
[14:51] <bloodearnest> lazypower, ok
[14:58] <bloodearnest> lazypower, a templating /skeleton tool to create a default interface with basic available 'state' management on both provides/requires might be useful?
[16:08] <marcoceppi> bloodearnest: we're going to be adding those to charm create soon
[16:08] <marcoceppi> `charm create -t {interface-layer, charm-layer}` etc
[16:14] <bloodearnest> marcoceppi, nice
[16:35] <nottrobin> is it possible to setup my environment such that unpriviledged users can "juju bootstrap" in the local environment?
[16:35] <nottrobin> as in a way to make "juju bootstrap" not need sudo, or a way to just enable to sudo commands they do need?
[16:43] <bloodearnest> nottrobin, I don't think so, as it's a generic sudo bash command that is run, not a specific script that you could give limited access to via sudoers
[16:45] <nottrobin> bloodearnest: yeah that's what I feared. I was just wondering if there's a directory or file somewhere that I could expand permissions on that would mean sudo wasn't necessary (and maybe the script would be clever enough to realise it)
[16:46] <bloodearnest> nottrobin, I have a feeling it does | sudo bash :(
[16:46] <nottrobin> well that's sad
[16:46] <nottrobin> thanks
[16:46] <bloodearnest> lxd provider doesn't require root, however
[16:46] <bloodearnest> but it's brand new
[16:52] <nottrobin> bloodearnest: brand new, but usable?
[16:52] <nottrobin> do you know of any guides that could help me get started?
[16:55] <bloodearnest> nottrobin, I think it will be in the next alpha release, next week I think
[16:55] <bloodearnest> probably not usable yet
[16:55] <nottrobin> okay. never mind. nice to know it's coming
[17:07] <tpsilva> I'm trying to deploy Openstack with autopilot (Ubuntu 15.04), but it hangs at 82%... can anybody help me?
[17:16] <los__> (How do I get rid of the persisting state so I don't get logged in as los______________ ???)
[17:23] <erlon> ¬¬
[17:24] <tpsilva> erlon: ping
[17:32] <erlon> tpsilva: pong
[17:32] <erlon> tpsilva: have you tried RDO? they use to be very responsive
[17:59] <los__> erlon: talkin' to me? :D
[18:02] <erlon> los__: agree with me :) ?
[18:08] <lazypower> bloodearnest - https://github.com/juju/docs/pull/746
[18:08] <lazypower> you may be interested in that :)
[18:21] <los__> erlon: I was wondering if "RDO" was something as a response to my Q :)
[18:39] <krondor> hey all attempting to build a reactive charm but when I deploy I'm seeing ImportError: No module named charms.reactive
[18:41] <krondor> t also occurs when I try using the vanilla forums example cloned from the git repo.
[19:33] <erlon> los__: actually didn't see your question, I have just entered, it was more about tpsilva question
[19:55] <los__> erlon: thankx
[20:50] <los__> Anyone had problems with the GCE provider? https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/config-gce is out of date (Google constantly changing dashboard) and I'm getting an error:
[20:51] <los__> ERROR there was an issue examining the environment: invalid config: key "auth_provider_x509_cert_url" not supported
[20:57] <los__> had to delete tags: auth_uri, token_uri, auth_provider_x509_cert_url, client_x509_cert_url
[21:05] <cory_fu> jpt
[21:05] <cory_fu> Oops
[21:07] <los__> https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/jujucharms.com/issues/185
[22:20] <cholcombe> with juju storage if i forgot to add a device do i juju set {service-name} "/dev/sda" with just 1 device or all of them i had before plus the extra one?
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[00:23] <xubuntu50i> Hi, i'm trying to install xubuntu 15.04 all the instalation was good except the partitions formating i get the message: GTK-Message: failen to load ''overlar-scrollbar''
[00:25] <xubuntu50i> look the problem: http://k30.kn3.net/3/F/2/B/E/8/376.png
[00:26] <xubuntu50i> Puedo hablar español, and a little of english
[00:27] <xubuntu50i> Thank you everyone, nobody helps me, i gonna return to windows.
[00:40] <knome> i wonder what the problem was?
[01:06] <function9x> not sure, he didn't hang around long enough
[03:29] <cdk_> What is the recommended hardware/and is for beginning training towards CEH certificatoin?
[09:36] <xubuntu01w> hi, looking for help with the sound icon/menu in the system tray.
[09:46] <xubuntu01w> hi, can anyone help?
[12:55] <fsociety[00]dat> is it possible to set a different hinting for xfce4-terminal from general settings?
[13:15] <newke> hey. ive installed 15.10 xubuntu. trying to set Super+1 Super+2 keybinds for switching workspaces, but it doesnt work. Is there something i should know?
[13:24] <flocculant> newke: not sure how you're doing that - try editing in Settings Editor, might need to remove the existing first not sure
[13:25] <flocculant> nvm - doesn't let you do that :)
[13:29] <hyperboria> Long live xubuntu!
[13:31] <newke> i found that i had to set more workspaces before using them. did that from settings manager>workspaces. silly me
[14:26] <newke> do you use any software for backups and making snapshots?
[14:26] <knome> yes
[14:26] <hyperboria> i heard systemback is good
[14:27] <knome> there are many alternatives in the repositories
[14:28] <hyperboria> I installed bumblebee in xubuntu 15.10, nvidia 352 . After reboot i got no boot, because there was "nvidia" screen in xorg.conf. Log said smth like , Screen not found. It helped to just delete xorg.conf. but After reboot i got same ***. Can anyone help with it?
[14:28] <hyperboria> Also to change screen to "intel" in xorg was helpful too
[14:29] <knome> hyperboria, unfortunately, the nvidia+intel GPU's are known to have many problems
[14:48] <hyperboria> :(
[14:50] <nikow_> hyperboria, Purge bublebee, restore old xorg.conf from backup
[14:50] <nikow_> hyperboria, then install it again but with drivers community
[14:51] <nikow_> It helped for me.
[14:51] <hyperboria> drivers community?
[14:51] <nikow_> yeah
[14:51] <hyperboria> what is it?
[14:51] <hyperboria> btw, it seemd to there was no old xorg.conf...
[14:51] <nikow_> In graphical settings, i do not have Xubuntu close, but in graphic settings or repo settings are setting
[14:52] <nikow_> You can copy one from LiveCD :)
[14:53] <hyperboria> cant find graphic settings (
[14:56] <hyperboria> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[14:57] <hyperboria> which one i need ?
[15:06] <nikow_> hyperboria, I am using nouveau ones
[15:07] <hyperboria> hm, i found that i have nouveau. What i need to do ? just new install bumblebee and then optirun smth?
[15:07] <nikow_> hyperboria, All other drivers (i checked it by just trying) was failing for my ASUS
[15:43] <recon_lap> hi all, trying to install 14.04 and I keep getting it frezzing or giving me blank screens and various places. anyone got suggestions?
[15:50] <recon_lap> wondering if I should set -nodetect (or whatever it was) option in the boot sting
[16:00] <genii> !nomodeset
[16:09] <newke> do you also have blink on lightdm greeter? when i turn on, lightdm greeter starts with fading in wallpaper after fading finishes black screen appears for ~ half second. it bugs me
[16:09] <newke> have freshly installed xubuntu 15.10
[16:10] <newke> well not really fresh, but done only minor configurations
[16:13] <recon_lap> booting from DVD, keeps frezzing or getting stuck on a black screen
[16:14] <recon_lap> is the install any more robust in 15.09 or is there still a alt text install option?
[16:24] <xubuntu82w> Hi there
[16:25] <xubuntu82w> Trying to install Xubuntu on a USB drive
[16:26] <xubuntu82w> Step 2: Select your xubuntu *.iso - not sure what that is
[16:37] <bazhang> !torrents
[16:37] <bazhang> that ^
[16:38] <recon_lap> he left i think
[16:38] <bazhang> yep
[16:38] <flocculant> recon_lap: there's no alt text version - closest would be a netboot and pick xubuntu-desktop I guess
[16:38] <flocculant> recon_lap: re your issues I assume you've checked the burn/source iso veracity?
[16:40] <recon_lap> guess I better md5 it, froze again, I bloody hate computers that wont boot from usb
[16:40] <flocculant> yea
[16:41] <flocculant> can't remember the last time I burnt a cd/dvd - certainly not on this machine - not got anything to do it with :p
[16:53] <recon_lap> I'd dont know, the check DVD option said Checking ./cas[er/filesystem.squashfs.deb: ok4.deb and now looks like it's froze again
[16:56] <flocculant> mmm - well if it's crashed doing that either it is a dodgy burn or something that's way outside what we'd have looked at
[16:56] <recon_lap> going to see if I can get a usb to boot
[16:58] <flocculant> this might help it is doesn't want to boot from a usb http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/
[17:03] <recon_lap> bit lax linking you to a torrent download link and not suppling a md5 hazh
[17:07] <flocculant> ?
[17:21] <newke> lightdm-gtk-greeter is kinda glitchy. when it starts, it starts with wallpaper fading in, when fading finishes there is a black screen for about 1/3 second. do you experience the same?
[18:05] <AlexRednax> Hi :)
[18:12] <flocculant> hello
[19:34] <svip> I have a problem with notifications stealing focus.
[19:34] <svip> Can I turn off notifications entirely?
[20:05] <recon_lap> will boot into live desktop, just will not install. thinking of trying stright debian
[20:50] <recon_lap> so, is there anyway of finding out where a 14.04 install crashes?
[20:52] <function9x> recon_lap: gpu,cpu specs?
[20:53] <recon_lap> 3.06GHz Celeron , 2006 vintage , onboard video, dont know the MB , live CD works fine
[20:53] <recon_lap> gets about 2/3 of the way into the install and frezes
[20:55] <function9x> do you get the same issue with debian?
[20:56] <recon_lap> not tried it yet, got to download it first
[20:56] <recon_lap> might give the 32bit install a go
[21:04] <recon_lap> actualy, seems to be locking up randomly
[21:10] <flocculant> recon_lap: checked memory? option exists on the boot menu
[21:10] <recon_lap> check memory takes forever, might run it overnight
[21:11] <recon_lap> anyways, bloody waste of a day. thx for the input, I have to get dinner, later
[21:26] <flocculant> in my experience if it's going to fail - it's pretty quick
[22:03] <xubuntu301> buen día alguien habla español
[22:05] <krytarik> !es | xubuntu301
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[07:57] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:28] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[08:53] <MooDoo> how are you brobostigon ?
[08:54] <brobostigon> tired, knackered, in pain. and you?
[08:54] <MooDoo> yeah i'm tired, but slept a lot last night which is probably why :D
[08:55] <brobostigon> ah. :)
[09:00] <SuperMatt> the human body is a remarkably poorly constructed thing
[09:00] <SuperMatt> the fact that it genuninely allows you to wake up feeling more tired than you went to bed is just bat poop crazy
[09:02] <foobarry> or we are doing it wrong
[09:04] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:05] <SuperMatt> that's a possibility
[09:10] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 :)
[09:10] <MooDoo> the moe sleep i have the worse and grumpier i am :)
[09:11] <foobarry> thats age
[09:11] <foobarry> you are getting 1 day older :)
[09:12] <MooDoo> yeah i'm getting older :)
[09:14] <davmor2> foobarry: no it is definitely related to sleep, I'm with MooDoo on this one. If I have 6-7 sleep I'm tired but much happier. If I get 8-9 I'm not so tired but then I was having a lie in so why did you wake me. More than 9 hours and I'm ready to scream get off my lawn to any kid that passes by and I don't even have a lawn :D
[09:16] <SuperMatt> it might have something to do with the REM sleep cycle patterns
[09:18] <SuperMatt> https://boingboing.net/2011/01/07/waking-up-without-an.html - I tried this for a period of time, and it did make me feel quite good.
[09:18] <SuperMatt> then I got a girlfriend and all hell broke loose
[09:18] <SuperMatt> I couldn't imagine doing the same with kids involved
[09:19] <foobarry> woke up every X minutes due to daughter coughing all night
[09:20] <SuperMatt> there's your problem
[09:20] <SuperMatt> procreation: bringing all of life's joys and woes in one precious, snotty bundle
[10:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Shopping Reminder Day! 😃
[11:00] <awilkins> Does Firefox still need a special patch / plugin on Trusty to integrate with the Unity menu?
[11:23] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI
[11:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noWriJ-YGws
[11:26] <JamesTait> davmor2, thanks for the earworm.
[11:27] <davmor2> JamesTait: you're welcome
[11:42] <andylockran> morning guys
[11:43] <MooDoo> morning
[11:46] <andylockran> how goes things?
[11:49] <SuperMatt> hurm, Ubuntu works really well as a gnome-boxes guest, installing and booting so much faster than Centos, but for some reason the shared clipboard doesn't work out of the box like it does for centos. You have to install the spice-vdagent package first
[11:51] <davmor2> SuperMatt: boxes is a redhat thing they may have bits in the system that ubuntu doesn't so you may need to install something for it to work
[11:52] <SuperMatt> gotcha
[11:57] <SuperMatt> http://londonist.com/2015/11/holborn-commuters-made-to-stand-on-the-right-and-the-left?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+londonist%2FsBMe+%28Londonist%29
[11:57] <SuperMatt> http://londonist.com/2015/11/holborn-commuters-made-to-stand-on-the-right-and-the-left
[12:06] <SuperMatt> oops I put those in the wrong window
[12:06] <SuperMatt> but it looks like centos automatically installs the spice client
[12:08] <davmor2> SuperMatt: see :)
[12:11] <davmor2> SuperMatt: so out of interest if you install that does it then work in Ubuntu?
[12:11] <SuperMatt> yup
[12:11] <SuperMatt> though I had to reboot
[12:13] <davmor2> SuperMatt: kernel level change so that makes sense
[12:13] <MooDoo> damn rebooting
[12:13] <SuperMatt> I know
[12:13] <SuperMatt> I run linux, shouldn't have to reboot
[12:14] <davmor2> MooDoo: you love it you know you do, otherwise how else would you have time to talk to your family :P
[12:15] <MooDoo> davmor2: I've not touched my servers in months, so have had time to speak to them and feed them and all sorts :D
[12:16] <davmor2> MooDoo: see that's what happens when you stop using windows :D
[12:16] <MooDoo> davmor2: not stopped yet lol, still using hyper-v for my virtual machines and RHEL for my storage server :p
[12:26] <foobarry> woot let me keep the extra tshirts
[12:26] <foobarry> \o/
[12:46] <zmoylan-pi> christmas presents sorted \o/ :-D
[12:47] <zmoylan-pi> as long as the sizes of t-shirts fit your recipients of course...
[13:41] <safiyyah> Hi all, I need help setting me graphics back to nouveau , I already deleted Nvidia drivers and removed the card from the motherboard, I am not using my onboard graphics but cannot get the going well enough. I ran the commands: sudo apt-get install nouveau-firmware
[13:41] <safiyyah> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:42] <safiyyah> ali1234, daftykins directhex DJones foobarry Seeker`
[13:42] <Seeker`> 1don't randomly ping people
[13:42] <Seeker`> if someone knows the answer, they'll answer. Otherwise, try #ubuntu
[13:44] <safiyyah> sorry Seeker` I pinged those who I thought could help, I am sorry you found it rude.
[13:44] <SuperMatt> make sure the nouveau driver isn't blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d
[13:45] <SuperMatt> if all else fails, reinstall
[13:48] <safiyyah> SuperMatt, I checked, it isn't there
[13:48] <safiyyah> have purged and installed
[13:48] <safiyyah> going to reboot
[13:48] <safiyyah> brb
[13:52] <safiyyah> I rebooted, twice, reinstalled, twice, no joy
[13:52] <safiyyah> :(
[13:55] <safiyyah> brb, rebooting again
[13:57] <safiyyah> meh, no luck!
[13:57] <SuperMatt> what errors is it giving you?
[13:58] * bittin_ at work atm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg
[13:59] <safiyyah> SuperMatt, no errors at all
[13:59] <safiyyah> just when I reboot the resolution is way off
[14:00] <SuperEngineer> safiyyah, this may be stating the obvious but why not put nVidia card back in, try if both noveau & nVidia drivers work
[14:00] <SuperMatt> right, so it's probably that you're using nouveu, and you can find this by running lsmod | grep nouveau
[14:00] <SuperEngineer> ...& how do know it's not working
[14:01] <SuperMatt> it's entirely possible that your onboard is pooched
[14:01] <SuperEngineer> ...& what onboard video are you attempting
[14:01] <safiyyah> it's me first time using my onboard graphics
[14:01] <safiyyah> always had an nvidia card
[14:01] <safiyyah> which died a few days ago
[14:02] <SuperEngineer> ..& SuperMatt just asked my next question :)
[14:02] <safiyyah> decided to just use the on board lot
[14:02] <SuperEngineer> which board?
[14:02] <safiyyah> asus
[14:03] <SuperEngineer> is that intel on board graphics?
[14:03] <SuperMatt> possible that the onboard doesn't even use nvidia
[14:03] <SuperMatt> team Super* is on the case
[14:03] <SuperMatt> or Super.*
[14:03] <safiyyah> i deleted nvidia, including xorg
[14:03] <safiyyah> purged it
[14:03] <safiyyah> and then installed nouveau
[14:03] <safiyyah> purged bumblebee as well just now
[14:04] <SuperMatt> Super[EM][a-z]*
[14:04] <SuperMatt> I don't know why I'm regexing this
[14:04] <SuperEngineer> :-D
[14:05] <SuperEngineer> safiyyah, do oyu know what the onboard is supposed to be [nvidia/intel]
[14:05] <safiyyah> no idea about the board, an get the manual out and look
[14:05] <safiyyah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502420/
[14:05] <safiyyah> checking manual now
[14:06] <SuperEngineer> yup, that would be a good idea
[14:07] <SuperMatt> or you can run lspci | grep VGA
[14:08] <SuperEngineer> or you can ask yourself: "am I looking at the screen right now?" coz if so, something graphical might just possible at a long shot actual be working ;-)
[14:08] <safiyyah> Graphics: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (Intel GMA 3100) integrated Max. resolution 2048**bpp, HorizontalL
[14:09] <SuperMatt> there's your problem
[14:09] <SuperMatt> you're trying to use nouveau with an intel card
[14:09] <SuperEngineer> hmmm.. intel [do I need to go on]
[14:09] <safiyyah> okay I don't get the issue
[14:09] <SuperEngineer> again... SuperMatt types faster than me!
[14:09] <SuperMatt> too Super for some
[14:10] <safiyyah> when I do a fresh install of an OS, it works and then I put the nvidia graphics
[14:10] <SuperEngineer> why>
[14:10] <SuperEngineer> ?
[14:10] <safiyyah> because I used to like compiz
[14:10] <safiyyah> well I am over it now
[14:10] <SuperMatt> you and everyone but the unity devs
[14:10] <SuperMatt> ZING!
[14:11] <SuperEngineer> KAPOW!
[14:12] <SuperEngineer> and SuperMatt, you try sitting at a keyboard whilst recovering from a double hernia op!
[14:12] <SuperMatt> I understand now
[14:12] <SuperEngineer> [sorry... I meant "double krytonote exposure"
[14:12] <SuperEngineer> ;-)
[14:13] <safiyyah> I don't get it?
[14:13] <SuperEngineer> *kryptonite
[14:14] <SuperMatt> safiyyah: the issue is that you're trying to use nouveau, which is an nvidia driver, but your graphics card is intel. You need to install the inter drivers
[14:14] <safiyyah> okay
[14:14] <safiyyah> what are they called?
[14:14] <SuperMatt> well this is where I can't help because I'm running Fedora
[14:15] <awilkins> The Intel drivers are just part of the kernel
[14:15] <SuperMatt> but if you can get some of desktop access, the ubuntu drivers application *should* install the correct ones
[14:15] <SuperMatt> ah, there you go
[14:15] <awilkins> You don't need to install them, you just need to not tell the OS to use the nvidia ones when it has no nvidia hardware
[14:16] <awilkins> Although isn't the Intel GMA the one built into the CPU?
[14:17] <safiyyah> awilkins, probably
[14:19] * SuperEngineer just opened synaptic & found a load of xserver-xorg-video, might be worth a look... but check before installing any
[14:21] <SuperEngineer> & check your BIOS / UEFI settingds allow the onboard video before doing anything.. I suspect they are fully ok as all is ok before you try to use nvdia again intel
[14:23] <awilkins> The newer nvidia cards sometimes need newer drivers
[14:23] <awilkins> ie when I got my GTX 980Ti I had to install newer drivers
[14:23] <awilkins> There's a PPA for that
[14:23] <awilkins> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:23] <awilkins> You should never have to manually install nvidia binary driver packages
[14:24] <SuperEngineer> awilkins, his nvidia card gone to meet its maker
[14:24] <awilkins> Doing so mucks things up
[14:24] <awilkins> Ah, well, I'd follow your advice and go to the BIOS
[14:25] <awilkins> By default, xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed out of the box
[14:25] <awilkins> So it should work fine
[14:25] <SuperEngineer> awilkins, agrred
[14:26] <awilkins> Kernel drivers are also just part of the default install
[14:26] <safiyyah> ok I understood to check the bios
[14:29] <safiyyah> did I understand correctly?
[14:29] <safiyyah> I will reboot to do so
[14:30] <SuperEngineer> if you are not still trying to use the nvidia drivers, reboot
[14:34] <safiyyah> SuperEngineer, am I to purge nouveau?
[14:35] <SuperEngineer> yes, oui, tac, si
[14:35] <SuperEngineer> definitely even
[14:36] <safiyyah> brb
[14:40] <SuperEngineer> p.s awilkins ... please send me your GTX 980 [mine is only a GTX 650].. need yours to check yours is not faulty. I'll send it stright back, honest ;-)
[14:41] <safiyyah> no joy
[14:41] <awilkins> hahahaha :-) I've got the 560Ti it replaced still
[14:41] <SuperEngineer> safiyyah, reinstal
[14:41] <safiyyah> nouveau?
[14:41] <SuperMatt> no! do not install nouveau!
[14:41] <SuperEngineer> safiyyah, ubuntu
[14:41] <awilkins> Yeah, backup your home folder and reinstall. I'd never recommend it for Windows because it's such a PITA, but for Ubuntu it's a sound strategy.
[14:42] <safiyyah> reintall ubuntu???
[14:42] <SuperMatt> nouveau is a drive for nvidia cards only, you have intel
[14:42] <SuperMatt> yup
[14:42] <awilkins> It's not as horrible as it sounds :-)
[14:42] <awilkins> What's your network connection like?
[14:42] <safiyyah> noooooooooooo
[14:42] <SuperMatt> you shouldn't need to back up /home, because apparently if you select the install over the top option, it will keep /home
[14:43] <SuperEngineer> safiyyah, you could even tell it to keep your existing home folder
[14:43] <SuperMatt> (but backing up is always advised)
[14:43] <safiyyah> its hell getting my scanner working
[14:43] <SuperEngineer> damn! SuperMatt did it again!
[14:43] <SuperMatt> sorry bud
[14:43] <SuperMatt> let me slow down a little
[14:43] <awilkins> What scanner?
[14:43] <safiyyah> it's already backed up
[14:43] <safiyyah> brother
[14:43] <SuperEngineer> lol
[14:43] <awilkins> Hmm
[14:44] <awilkins> I had a Samsung one built into my last printer that worked over the network
[14:44] <awilkins> But you needed a horrible Perl script. Which was in my home folder.
[14:44] <bashrc_> cowsay "Scanners are nothing but trouble"
[14:44] <safiyyah> oh i guess i just have to bite the bullet
[14:44] <NotSoSuperMatt> sometimes the simplest solution is the one you least want to do
[14:44] * zmoylan-pi still wakes up screaming about scanners... :-)
[14:44] <NotSoSuperMatt> but do not install nouveau when the box is back online
[14:45] <safiyyah> lol
[14:45] <awilkins> Almost worth the reduced hassle to buy a RasPi to install the scanner on :-)
[14:45] <NotSoSuperMatt> I don't mind getting scanners working, but printers belong in their own circle of hell
[14:45] <awilkins> And then NEVER TOUCH IT AGAIN
[14:45] <SuperEngineer> safiyyah, in case you have an SD card slot in your printer/scanner do ehat I do... scan to SD card & "collect" the scanned article from the SD card
[14:45] <zmoylan-pi> if it weren't for irfanview on windows to make scanners usable on windows...
[14:45] <safiyyah> the scanner, thing of beauty when its workinh
[14:46] <safiyyah> hell on earth to sort out
[14:46] <SuperEngineer> many will connect directly to your pooter so no phtysical SD card moving required
[14:46] <davmor2> is it an all in one or just a scanner, if it's an all in one setup the printer then open simple scan and it should of pulled in the scanner section
[14:47] <safiyyah> davmor2, that has never worked
[14:47] <safiyyah> am going in guys
[14:47] <davmor2> safiyyah: it should
[14:47] <safiyyah> pray for me
[14:48] <SuperEngineer> will do
[15:09] <SuperEngineer> Bad news for TUX - BBC Radio 2 Factoids: Polar bears can eat as many as 86 penguins in a single sitting.
[15:24] <zmoylan-pi> ms are thinking of changing their logo... :-)
[15:24] <diddledan_> oh?
[15:24] <diddledan_> or is that a joke referencing the bears?
[15:25] <zmoylan-pi> :-)
[15:32] <SuperMatt> SuperEngineer: that's fine, we'll just keep forking until there are enough penguins to outnumber the polar bear
[15:33] <SuperEngineer> :-D
[15:35] <MooDoo> lol
[15:36] <zmoylan-pi> and install tux on the polar bears...
[16:29] <awilkins> BBC servers are dead : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
[16:29] <diddledan_> works here
[16:29] <awilkins> Hmm, getting a 500 here
[16:29] <diddledan_> maybe it's something with edge caching - depends on ISP
[16:30] <awilkins> Yeah, VM do edge caching, definitely
[16:30] <diddledan_> with websites on serverfarms and with edge caching it's very difficult to determine if a problem is with the site or your isp or ....
[16:30] <awilkins> Now a refresh is really thinking about it
[16:30] <diddledan_> hmm, I'm on VM too
[16:30] <awilkins> Yay, they rebooted
[16:30] <diddledan_> lol
[16:31] <diddledan_> someone used the server power for the vacuum
[16:33] <mapps> gah cant access my routers config, looks like they must have changed the default user/pass
[16:33] <mapps> ;[
[16:42] <Laney> joshua2
[16:43] <Laney> hunter2
[16:43] <Laney> damn it!!!!
[16:43] * Laney mixed up Famous Computer Passwords
[16:47] <davmor2> Laney: get your coat
[16:52] <diddledan_> see, I always see "get your coat" suffixed with ", you've pulled!"
[16:53] <diddledan_> flirting ftw
[16:53] <diddledan_> :-p
[16:53] <diddledan_> of course there's also the aussie foreplay "brace yaself, sheila"
[16:53] * diddledan_ hides
[19:07] <davmor2> diddledan_: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2v6abw
[19:27] <davmor2> http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6776984/adele-25-42-percent-record-sales-7-5-million-200 and with her clothes on, lets see miley match that :D
[20:36] <diddledan_> wow
[20:36] <diddledan_> 42%
[20:36] <diddledan_> that's of ALL music sales?!
[20:39] <zmoylan-pi> so... adele is the answer to the music industries questions? :-)
[20:39] <MartijnVdS> a
[20:39] <MartijnVdS> a Dell?
[20:49] <daftykins> dude, you're getting Adele
[20:49] <MartijnVdS> my laptop is a dell..
[21:48] <diddledan_> what do you want a dell for?! :-p
[22:24] <diddledan_> time to catch-up on shield
[22:24] <diddledan_> agents thereof
[22:32] <awilkins> What the cheapest VPS with US servers? (really, I'm taking Raspberry Pi levels of hardware...)
[22:33] <diddledan_> hmm
[22:33] <diddledan_> digitalocean do 5$ per mo
[22:33] <awilkins> Hrrmph
[22:33] <diddledan_> I've not looked at linode in a while
[22:33] <awilkins> Heh, annoyed by the loss of my current DNS proxy for Netflix usage :-)
[22:34] <diddledan_> :-(
[22:34] <diddledan_> sucky
[22:34] <awilkins> All the DNS services specifically for the purpose charge about $5 a month
[22:34] <awilkins> I pay $2.95 for 15GB of Usenes
[22:34] <awilkins> Usenet
[22:34] <diddledan_> usenet ftw
[22:35] <awilkins> $5 for a few tens of kB of DNS requests seems excessive in comparison
[22:39] <diddledan_> I think for netflix they might need to do some proxying of some stuff too
[22:42] <daftykins> awilkins: eh, as in for netflix US?
[22:42] <daftykins> digitalocean setups are neat, you can get OpenVPN fired up within 30 mins of creating an instance
[22:43] <awilkins> daftykins, Yeah, all you need is the DNS proxied a bit
[22:44] <awilkins> daftykins, The names are the same for their content servers across the globe... they geolocate your DNS request
[22:44] <daftykins> ah so you can probably tunnel that over SSH instead?
[22:44] <awilkins> Hmm, maybe
[22:44] <awilkins> There are whole docker containers with the relevant gubbins in to just be a DNS server
[22:45] <awilkins> Set up to do it
[22:45] <awilkins> Been binging Deep Space 9
[22:45] <awilkins> But something is up with the DNS server I've been using
[22:45] <awilkins> They have ALL the Star Trek on US Netflix
[22:45] <daftykins> ah i've watched all of that not long ago :>
[22:46] * zmoylan-pi has all trek on a hard drive barring original series... must sort that
[22:46] <zmoylan-pi> which is odd as i do have animated series :-)
[22:46] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: but you can't go without fine moments such as - https://www.dropbox.com/s/4n7k0td4rur4jjs/spock.JPG?dl=0
[22:46] <diddledan_> sobbing mathematically?
[22:47] <zmoylan-pi> i held of buying the dvds as they said they were going to remaster the original series but never got around to getting them
[22:47] <daftykins> i got some blurays with the re-done CG sequences, they don't actually ruin anything compared with the originals
[22:48] <daftykins> i'd not seen TOS before
[22:48] <awilkins> US Netflix apparently has the remastered
[22:48] <daftykins> awilkins: how far did you get in DS9?
[22:48] <awilkins> Close to end of Season 2
[22:48] <awilkins> Garak just had his brain implant melt down
[22:48] <awilkins> S3 I think actually
[22:48] <zmoylan-pi> like a lot of trek season one is never great
[22:48] <awilkins> The Maquis stuff just kicked off
[22:48] <daftykins> :D
[22:49] <daftykins> the Doctor and Garak scenes are ace
[22:49] <awilkins> RIght, beddy byes time
[22:49] <awilkins> Gnight
[22:49] <zmoylan-pi> garak commenting on the boy who cried wolf...
[22:49] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[22:51] <zmoylan-pi> garak and quark and the root beer...
[22:51] <zmoylan-pi> all of gark and odo
[22:52] * zmoylan-pi puts on red dwarf 'psirens'
[22:53] <zmoylan-pi> the one with the models of trek and space 1999 ships :-)
[23:13] <zmoylan-pi> 'this baby's crashed more times than a zx81' :-D
[23:50] <diddledan_> if you thought csi cyber was funky hacker depictions, scorpion is awesome!
[23:50] <diddledan_> (awesomely bad that is, which I love!)
[23:51] <zmoylan-pi> hollywood hackers at it's silliest?
[23:51] <diddledan_> the introduction credits have "</" and ">" before and after random headings
[23:51] <diddledan_> that tels you how awesome it is
[23:52] * zmoylan-pi is intrigued and makes a mental note to look for it
[23:53] <daftykins> :)
[23:54] <zmoylan-pi> if only coding at night wearing a balaclava was photogenic... :-)
[23:55] <diddledan_> ooh, that's what I'm doing wrong, I don't have a balaclava
[23:55] <zmoylan-pi> if you're a noob you can slum it in a hoodie... :-P
[23:55] <zmoylan-pi> especially a new hoodie with a kittie pocket...
[23:55] * diddledan_ wanders off to find a hoodie
[23:56] <diddledan_> I've got a poo-load of empty pepsi bottles, does that help?
[23:56] <zmoylan-pi> no they have to be cans that you mount onto a board and paint black to make a solar radiator :-)
[23:58] <diddledan_> "I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but your son is a genius"
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[05:31] <Abe> jemand da?
[05:47] <p01nt3r> guten morgen. ich möchte in einem script mittels so etwas wie "su -c 'apt-get install foo' && ./ein/script/als/normaler/user.sh" ausführen. die sache mit dem install klappt, aber das script wird nicht gestartet. wie muss die syntax lauten, um das als normaler user auszuführen?
[05:48] <p01nt3r> achso und das alles soll in einem neuen terminal passieren
[05:49] <p01nt3r> mein ansatz: mate-terminal -e "su -c 'apt-get install foo' && ./ein/script/als/normaler/user.sh"
[05:50] <p01nt3r> nach dem install geht das terminal aber einfach zu.
[05:51] <p01nt3r> das script soll erst nach dem install starten.
[07:28] <freakyy> also der grafik treiber funktioniert auch in trusty nicht ... und auch nicht der neue treiber von gestern von der website ... hab jetzt nen 2ten bugreport gemacht
[07:34] <freakyy> meint ihr es gibt hoffnung für mich? oO
[07:34] <_moep_> wir müssen alle irgendwann sterben…
[07:35] <stevieh> auf jedne Fall gibt es für alle anderen Hoffnung, sich solche Grafikkarten nicht zu kaufen :-)
[08:03] <jokrebel> Abe: So gut wie immer ;-)
[08:13] <freakyy> gibt es nen repository das ich mit trusty aktiviern kann um noch etwas neuere pakete zu kriegen? oder gibts das nicht?
[08:24] <stevieh> wieso nimmst du denn trusty, wenn die HW so neu ist?
[08:24] <freakyy> die hardware ist nicht neu
[08:24] <freakyy> das isn2 jahre alter laptop
[08:25] <stevieh> und was ist das für ne magische Graka, die da nicht geht?
[08:29] <freakyy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[08:29] <freakyy> eigentlich müsste die gehn
[08:29] <freakyy> aber habn sony laptop vielleicht liegts auch daran? ich weiss ned
[08:29] <freakyy> ich hoffe nur man kann was machen
[08:29] <freakyy> ich hatte auch shcon wily installiert bei keiner version funktioniert der grafiktreiber
[08:31] <freakyy> in jedem fall wenn ich den treiber installiert hab reagiert alles ganz langsam, der bildschirm fängt in der mitte an hört rechts auf und geht links weiter und so
[08:31] <stevieh> d.h. x startet nicht?
[08:31] <freakyy> lauter komische linien nix is lesbar
[08:31] <stevieh> was isses denn fürn laptop?
[08:31] <freakyy> sony vaio SVE1512Z1EB
[08:33] <freakyy> also x startet
[08:34] <stevieh> ist das so ein hybrid müll?
[08:34] <freakyy> soviel ich weiss hat er nur eine graka
[08:35] <stevieh> und die fglrx dinger gehen anscheinend nicht? Und haste mal den originalen ATI krams probiert?
[08:39] <freakyy> ja ich hab alles probiert
[08:39] <freakyy> amd treiber von website, der von vor ner woche, den der gestern raus gekommen is
[08:39] <freakyy> oder ovrgestern
[08:39] <freakyy> den von ubuntu wily und den von ubuntu trusty beides -updates und nicht updates
[08:40] <freakyy> alle treiber hamn das gleiche problem
[08:40] <freakyy> komische linien
[08:40] <freakyy> auch in consolen alt+f1 etc.
[08:40] <freakyy> komische linien
[08:41] <stevieh> und unter windows keine komischen linien?
[08:41] <freakyy> nein
[08:41] <freakyy> aber windows ahb ich jetzt auch nichtmehr installiert
[08:41] <stevieh> die komischen linien auf einer konsole sind aber komisch. Die kommen also auch, wenn X gar nicht läuft?
[08:42] <freakyy> ja
[08:42] <freakyy> also naja das weiss ich ned
[08:42] <freakyy> ob die auch kommen wenn x garnicht läuft
[08:42] <freakyy> bis jetzt lief x ja immer
[08:42] <stevieh> versteh ich nicht.
[08:42] <freakyy> ;(
[08:43] <stevieh> bei alt-f1 ist ja kein X
[08:43] <freakyy> nein
[08:43] <stevieh> dann halt x mal an
[08:43] <freakyy> da is aber auch alles voller linien schrift nicht lesbar
[08:43] <freakyy> ich krieg als mit mühe und not hin, dass er den alten xserver-xorg-video-ati treiber wieder installiert
[08:43] <freakyy> ne das bringt ja nix
[08:43] <stevieh> was aber auch nix ändert?
[08:44] <stevieh> was bringt nix? x anhalten? Immer noch linien?
[08:44] <freakyy> ich weiss nicht
[08:44] <freakyy> ich will jetzt aber nicht das alles nochmal installierrt nur um das rauszufinden
[08:44] <freakyy> also ich denke dann sind imernoch linien da
[08:45] <stevieh> du kannst doch X einfach stoppen. service lightdm stop oder was immer dein dm
[08:45] <stevieh> ist
[08:45] <stevieh> und mit ps auxww | grep X schauen, obs noch läuft
[08:46] <freakyy> ja ne momentan hab ich ja den xorg-treiber am laufen
[08:46] <freakyy> damit ich was sehe
[08:46] <freakyy> ich will da auch jetzt ned ausprobiern ich mach grad was im hintergrund
[08:47] <stevieh> na, dann mag ich dir auch nicht helfen
[08:47] <freakyy> das dauert ewig und ich hab wieder mühe und not den alten treiber zu installiern
[08:47] <freakyy> ja danke trotzdem ;D
[08:47] <stevieh> dann schau halt streifen. nenn es einfach "vintage mode" und sei glücklich
[08:48] <freakyy> ich kann auch nicht mit dir chatten während dem ich das mache
[08:48] <freakyy> das wär alles ziemlich umsmtändlich
[08:52] <jokrebel> wenn das sogar ohne X ist, ist vielleicht auch die Grafikkarte einfach kaputt? Hab an einem meiner Laptops dieses Linien-Problem (bei mir sind das grüne Linien). Dann wird es mal wieder Zeit die Grafikkarte "aufzubacken" ;-) ist aber ne reine NVidia
[08:52] <stevieh> naja, er will der sache nicht auf den Grund gehen, also isses mir wurscht, ob er tesa auf der Glotze oder ne schmutzige brille hat ;-)
[08:55] <freakyy> stevieh: du sagtest vorhin du verstehst das auch nicht - kennst du dich nun aus und kann es sich lohnen das auszuprobiern? wie gesagt ich muss dann jedesmal neu starten um dir das ergebnis zu sagen
[08:55] <stevieh> ich kenn mich nicht aus. Ich weiss nur, wie man systematisch fehler sucht.
[08:56] <freakyy> ok gut dann probiern wir das mal wenn du noch willst?
[08:56] <stevieh> hast du keinen zweiten pc an dem du chatten kannst?
[08:56] <freakyy> ich installier dann jetzt den neusten treiber von deren website oder?
[08:57] <freakyy> doch aber der is grad in reparatur - der hat sich ständig ein aus ein aus geschaltet
[08:57] <stevieh> nein. Erst schauen wir mal ob die Streifen auch ohne x auftauchen.
[08:57] <stevieh> was ist das für ein ubuntu? unity?
[08:57] <freakyy> ja momentan seh ich ja keine streifen
[08:57] <freakyy> mit dem xserver-xorg-ati treiber funktionierts
[08:57] <stevieh> aber?
[08:57] <freakyy> aber der fglrx treibe rmacht die probleme den muss ich dann natürlich erst isntalliern
[08:58] <stevieh> und was ist das problem mit dem xorg-ati treiber?
[08:58] <freakyy> kein problem
[08:58] <freakyy> zu langsam
[08:58] <stevieh> bei was?
[08:58] <freakyy> spielen
[08:58] <freakyy> der unterstüzt ja das ganze zeug ned was meine graka kann
[08:59] <stevieh> ok, dann mag ich doch nicht helfen. :-)
[08:59] <jokrebel> "könnte"
[08:59] <freakyy> auch gut
[08:59] <freakyy> ich hoffe nur ich kriegs noch hin
[09:02] <stevieh> klar
[09:07] <freakyy> ich probier jetzt trotzdem mal den x zu stoppen
[09:58] <freakyy> so komischjetzt läfut der treiber
[09:58] <freakyy> hab aber nix anders gemacht
[09:58] <freakyy> nur zwischendurch nen fernseher angeschlossen
[09:58] <freakyy> vielleicht hat das irgendwas geresettet
[09:58] <freakyy> keine ahnung
[12:10] <jokrebel> In unregelmäßigen Abständen verstellt sich mein Schlüsselbundpasswort von <leer> (ja ich weiß, soll man nicht weil dann alles im Klartext gespeichert wird) automatisch wieder auf mein User-Passwort. Da ich Autologin nutze, werde ich dann bei jedem boot nach dem Passwort gefragt um den Schlüsselbund zu entsperren. Erst wenn ich ihn dann über Passwörter&Verschlüsselung wieder auf ein leeres Passwort
[12:10] <jokrebel> setze, ist die Abfrage nach dem Booten erstmal wieder weg. Bis, Wochen oder Monate später der Spuk von vorne beginnt.
[12:18] <jokrebel> Ein Autologin bei dem man dann hinterher das Passwort doch noch eintippen muss ist natürlich ein Schmarrn. Dann könnte ich das ja gleich über den Displaymanager eintippen, wenn ich das so wollen würde. Was zum Henker sorgt da immer wieder dafür (im Hintergrund OHNE mein zutun), dass ein Passwort gesetzt wird?
[12:27] <Anticom> Tag zusammen. Wie bekomme ich folges paket sauber installiert? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shellcheck
[12:27] <Anticom> launchpad sachen funktionieren über diese ppa repos, oder?
[12:27] <Anticom> Bin was das anbelangt aber noch ein ziemlicher newbie. Wäre nett wenn mich da jemand ne kurze schritt für schritt anleitung geben würde
[12:35] <David1977> Anticom: Ich bin mir unsicher, was das Paket macht, aber kennst du shellcheck,net?
[12:35] <David1977> vielleicht musst du gar nichts installieren sondern kannst das online nutzen?!
[12:36] <David1977> http://www.shellcheck.net/
[12:36] <dadrc> Anticom: nein, das sind offizielle Pakete für Ubuntu 14.04, 15.04, 15.10 und 16.04 Alpha
[12:36] <dadrc> Anticom: Welche Ubuntuversion benutzt du gerade?
[12:36] <Anticom> David1977: will es ja grade direkt als Syntastic checker haben für vim
[12:36] <David1977> ok
[12:37] <David1977> war nur ein Gedanke
[12:37] <Anticom> dadrc: 14.04.3 LTS
[12:37] <Anticom> apt-cache search shellcheck liefert zumindest nix zurück
[12:37] <dadrc> Anticom: Ich hab gerade kein 14.04 hier, sollte aber in Backports sein
[12:37] <dadrc> Hast du das aktiviert?
[12:37] <Anticom> afaik nop
[12:37] <Anticom> wie mach ich das per shell?
[12:38] <Anticom> gab da doch sone apt.sources oder so
[12:38] <dadrc> ja
[12:38] <Anticom> dadrc: wo liegt die nochmal? :>
[12:38] <dadrc> Mit Texteditor deiner Wahl und Rootrechen /etc/apt/sources.list aufmachen und die Zeilen mit backports aktivieren
[12:38] <dadrc> Also, die Raute davor weg
[12:39] <dadrc> Sollten ungefähr so aussehen: "deb http://<…> trusty-backports <…>"
[12:39] <dadrc> und die gleiche Zeile mit deb-src
[12:40] <Anticom> http://xsnippet.org/361190/
[12:40] <Anticom> da ist nix mit backports drin
[12:40] <Anticom> ist afaik ein vserver bei 1und1
[12:40] <dadrc> bleh, dann fummeln die an den Quellen rum
[12:40] <David1977> also ich habe ein 14.04 hier und kann es direkt mit: sudo apt-get install shellcheck installieren
[12:41] <dadrc> Anticom: kopier mal eine von den Zeilen und schreib "trusty-backports" als Typ rein
[12:41] <Anticom> dadrc: wie kommentier ich in der sources.list? per lattenzaun?
[12:41] <dadrc> ja
[12:42] <Anticom> und dann einfach ein apt-get update?
[12:42] <dadrc> zeig mal die Datei jetzt
[12:42] <Anticom> habs :)
[12:43] <dadrc> kk
[12:43] <Anticom> thx
[12:43] <dadrc> gerne
[12:43] <Anticom> gibt's trotzdem irgendwo einen wiki artikel speziell für ppa's?
[12:43] <Anticom> wollte mir das schon länger mal anschauen, aber bin nie dazu gekommen
[12:43] <dadrc> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Paketquellen_freischalten/PPA
[12:43] <Anticom> thx
[12:45] <Anticom> Ach wenn ich schonmal hier bin. Ist zufällig ein vim poweruser da?
[12:45] <dadrc> Einige, einfach fragen
[12:46] <Anticom> Naja ich hab letzthin Vundle für mich entdeckt und schraub seitdem an meiner .vimrc rum. Jetzt steh ich vor dem Problem, dass viele Plugins optimalerweise so eine gepatchte schriftart benötigen
[12:46] <Anticom> und da gibt's die powerline fonts, nerdfont etc. etc. etc.
[12:47] <Anticom> Nehmen die sich nicht viel oder sollte man auf ein bestimmtes paket setzen?
[12:47] <Anticom> oder gar selbst per fontconfig patchen (so habe ich das zumindest verstanden mit der "fontconfig method")
[12:47] <dadrc> Ich hab damals einfach Powerline genommen, passt bis jetzt
[12:48] <dadrc> Ist aber hauptsächlich Geschmackssache
[12:49] <Anticom> dadrc: und welche methode? fontconfig oder fertig gepatchte fonts?
[12:50] <dadrc> Irgendwo fertig gefunden
[12:50] <Anticom> Finde es ein wenig doof, dass in den ganzen Repos selten ne Vorschau der gepatchten fonts da ist
[12:50] <Anticom> okay
[12:50] <Anticom> Ich probiers einfach mal aus :)
[13:27] <jokrebel> In unregelmäßigen Abständen verstellt sich mein Schlüsselbundpasswort von <leer> (ja ich weiß, soll man nicht weil dann alles im Klartext gespeichert wird) automatisch wieder auf mein User-Passwort. Da ich Autologin nutze, werde ich dann bei jedem boot nach dem Passwort gefragt um den Schlüsselbund zu entsperren. Erst wenn ich ihn dann über Passwörter&Verschlüsselung wieder auf ein leeres Passwort
[13:27] <jokrebel> setze, ist die Abfrage nach dem Booten erstmal wieder weg. Bis, Wochen oder Monate später der Spuk von vorne beginnt.
[13:27] <jokrebel> Ein Autologin bei dem man dann hinterher das Passwort doch noch eintippen muss ist natürlich ein Schmarrn. Dann könnte ich das ja gleich über den Displaymanager eintippen, wenn ich das so wollen würde. Was zum Henker sorgt da immer wieder dafür (im Hintergrund OHNE mein zutun), dass ein Passwort gesetzt wird?
[14:50] <martin05112015> servus
[14:53] <k1l> jokrebel: autologin und dann noch blankes passwort ist sicher so nicht vorgesehen. guck auf jeden fall mal, ob du beim wlan auch "für alle nutzer nutzbar" angeklickt hast.
[14:56] <jokrebel> k1l: Der ist ja sogar per LAN-Kabel am Netz
[15:02] <jokrebel> k1l: Und leider klappt Autologin ganz ohne Kennwortabfrage nur mit leerem Schlüsselbund-Kennwort.
[15:03] <jokrebel> wie gesagt. Wenn ich dann, wenn die GUI "da" ist, dann trotzdem das Kennwort eintippen muss kann ich auch auf den Autologin verzichten.
[15:08] <jokrebel> *seufz* vielleicht schalt ich den Autologin doch einfach ab (schon allein wegen der Sicherheit)
[15:23] <musca> jokrebel: ohne Festplattenverschlüsselung bietet das Passwort keinen echten Schutz
[15:26] <jokrebel> musca: Weil über GRUB oder Live-CD jederzeit aushebelbar, schon klar.
[15:29] <musca> Insofern ist Dein Schlüsselbundpasswort ein wichtiger Schutz.
[15:30] <jokrebel> Hab das ja inzwischen umgestellt
[15:31] <jokrebel> musca: Und der Schlüsselbund wird aber doch mit dem Login im DM automatisch mit entsperrt. Wenn jetzt jemand das Admin-User-Kennwort per Live CD abändern würde, würde dann der Schlüsselbund nicht mehr automatisch entsperrt werden?
[15:38] <musca> Gute Frage.
[15:41] <fix> hi, ist es mittlerweile safe fglrx unter ubuntu 15.10 64 bit aus den offiziellen Quellen zu installieren? Es gab da ja Probleme und ich finde keine eindeutige Antwort.
[15:43] <jokrebel> musca: Wenn das keine hier weiß müsste man das glatt mal ausprobieren. Weil wenn das dann doch nach einem Admin-Kennwort-Neu-Setzen immer noch automatisch entsperrt wird, wär der ganze "Nutzen" für den Popo
[15:44] <k1l> fix: teste es einfach mal. ich hab keine ati karte
[15:45] <fix> k1l: ich frage ja gerade nach, weil ich es nicht einfach testen kann, weil der Rechner funktionieren muss ;-) dachte vllt was jmd was
[15:46] <fix> weiß*
[15:53] <jokrebel> Wie teste ich das ohne mein Produktivsystem zu gefährden?
[17:24] <gugaua> Hallo, mal eine allgemeine Frage, wenn ich einen Netzwerkausfall für eine Person simulieren möchte als wäre z.B. das Netzteil meines Modems/Routers defekt, geht das mit iptables drop?
[17:27] <leszek> gugaua: möglich das es damit geht. Aber ich würde eine firewall für so etwas nicht einsetzen. Wie wäre es mit kabel einfach rausziehen für diesen Rechner ? Oder ist dieser per WLAN angebunden ?
[17:27] <stevieh> klingt gut
[17:27] <gugaua> leszek: naja Rechenzentrum, da könnte ich den Rechner herunterfahren
[17:28] <gugaua> stevieh: okay danke!... geht nur darum das der gleiche Effekt erzielt wird als wäre der Host wirklcih down
[17:34] <jokrebel> Warum sollte sich eine Firewallregel gleich auswirken wie ein Totalausfall durch Hardwaredefekt?
[17:38] <stevieh> weil die Daten nicht mehr durchgehen?
[17:41] <gugaua> jokrebel: ja, weil die Daten nicht durchgehen und somit kann ich ein Paar Szenarien zu Mysql replikationen durchprobieren
[17:41] <gugaua> Das Problem ist, das aktive Verbindungen nicht geschlossen werden...
[17:44] <jokrebel> Kabel abstecken (alternativ WLAN deaktivieren) würde das einfacher und besser "simulieren" denke ich.
[17:53] <gugaua> jokrebel: nicht in einen rechenzentrum :)
[17:58] <jokrebel> och - darf man halt nur nicht das falsche Habel ziehn ;-)
[17:58] <jokrebel> *Kabel
[18:06] <AlexRednax> Hi :)
[18:06] <AlexRednax> Ich bekomme morgen eine 500 GB SSD, was würdet ihr für eine Größe für / und /home empfehlen?
[18:08] <hdp> Das ist abhängig von deinem Anwendungsprofil.
[19:20] <Matze203> hiho @all ;)
[19:22] <Matze203> Ich habe leider eine Meldung im phpStorm, die mich leicht irritiert, da es sich bestimmt um nen Fehler handelt, aber meine english-Kenntnisse sind leider noch stark verbesserungswürdig.
[19:23] <Matze203> Die Fehlermeldung ist folgendes: > IBus prior to 1.5.11 may cause input problems. See IDEA-78860 for details.
[19:24] <Matze203> Ich habe dazu was gelesen, dass man in den Spracheinstellungen das IBus auf None stellen soll, aber das brachte leider keine Änderung.
[19:34] <Arborata> Huhu! In meinen "Einstellungen-Menubearbeiter" (menuLibre) findet sich unter "Grafik" ungefähr drei Dutzend mal der Eintrag für Okular (pdf-reader). Wieso ist das so?
[19:35] <Arborata> vor allem: wieso taucht es dann im echten Grafik-StartMenü nur ein Mal auf und kann ich die anderen gefahrlos weglöschen?
[19:36] <jokrebel> Arborata: Von welchem Ubuntu mit welcher Desktopoberfläche sprichst Du?
[19:36] <Arborata> tahr / xgce
[19:36] <Arborata> xfce
[19:36] <jokrebel> passe
[19:39] <Matze203> jokrebel: Ach das hab ich bei meiner Frage auch vergessen, es handelt sich um Ubuntu 15.10 und woran erkenne gleich nochmal ob ich im gnome oder kde bin?
[19:39] <mrkramps> Arborata, schau dir mal den programmstarter für okular an, in welche menüs der sich einträgt
[19:42] <Arborata> mrkramps, äh was bitte?
[19:42] <mrkramps> Arborata, die *.desktop-Datei in /usr/share/applications
[19:42] <k1l> Matze203: am einfachsten am aussehen :)
[19:43] <Arborata> mrkramps, da ist kein Okular-Starter drin.
[19:43] <Matze203> @k1l thx, nur müsste ich jetzt wissen, wie was aussehen sollte oder verrät mir bitte kurz jemand, wie man nochmal zwischen beiden wechseln konnte?
[19:44] <k1l> Matze203: schau mal hier: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ
[19:44] <Arborata> mrkramps, ah ja in /usr/share/applications/kde4/ sind ganz viele drin
[19:45] <Matze203> k1l, jupp, genauso siehts aus ;)
[19:46] <jokrebel> Matze203: In welche DE Du "abbiegst" entscheidest Du beim Login im DM (Displaymanager - dort wo Du dein Paswort eingibst und auch auswählen kannst, welche Oberfläche (DE) gestarte werden soll. Eine Übersicht wie die Oberflächen im groben im Auslieferzustand aussehen findest Du hier: http://www.tutonaut.de/tipp-10-desktops-fuer-ubuntu.html oder genauer drauf eingegangen hier
[19:46] <jokrebel> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/desktop
[19:46] <Arborata> mrkramps, aber die heißen alle nur okular, ohne.desktop
[19:46] <k1l> Matze203: die meldung warnt nur davor, dass altes ibus (also vor 1.5.1) probleme bereiten könnte.
[19:46] <k1l> Matze203: ich würde das erstmal aussitzen, wenn nichts schief läuft und alles funktioniert wie es soll
[19:47] <Arborata> mrkramps, was die ganzen Okular-Einträge im MenuLibre unterscheidet, ist die unterste Zeile im Menulibre, Kursiv unter dem Beschreibungsfenster
[19:47] <Arborata> Da steht dann immer so was wie /usr/share/applications/kde4/okularApplication_djvu.desktop
[19:47] <Matze203> ok, gut zu wissen, danke euch beiden ;) @k1l und jokrebel ;)
[19:48] <Arborata> mrkramps, immer gleicher Pfad aber jeweils mit anderer Zieldatei, wobei keine von denen in dem Ordner existiert
[19:50] <Matze203> aber ist es nicht ratsam die ibus vielleicht doch mal zu aktualisieren? ich bin jemand der immer gleich an was schlimmes denkt, wenn solche Meldungen kommen und besonders bei etwas womit ich mich noch so wenig aus kenne wie ubuntu und co.
[19:50] <mrkramps> Arborata, wenn eine *.dektop-Datei existiert, zeigt menulibre die auch an
[19:51] <mrkramps> warum okular jetzt meint, dass es so viele braucht, weiß ich nicht. wie die verschachtelt sind, weiß ich auch nicht
[19:51] <mrkramps> ist eben eine KDE-anwendung, die wenig rücksicht auf andere desktopumgebungen nimmt
[19:52] <mrkramps> oder man könnte auch sagen, dass menulibre einfach nicht taugt als menüeditor
[19:54] <k1l> Matze203: selbst in der 16.04 alpha ist noch 1.5.10. also ist deine fremdsoftware da komisch drauf
[19:55] <Matze203> ok, vielleicht sind die von einer anderen Distribution schon weiter, welche die bei der Entwicklung von phpStorm verwenden
[19:56] <Arborata> mrkramps, das war da halt drin beim Xubuntu. Eigentlich wollte ich da einfach nur nen Starter für Vuescan reinmachen...
[19:56] <k1l> naja, ist halt die java hölle, das phpstorm ding
[19:57] <mrkramps> Arborata, siehe https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.desktop-Dateien
[20:00] <Matze203> kennst du dich zufällig bissel mit dem phpstorm und git aus?
[20:01] <Matze203> oder jemand anders hier?
[20:29] <deem_> Hoi. Gibt's nen bestimmten Grund, warum rsync unter Ubuntu 14.04 kein upstart Script hat?
[20:33] <k1l> evlt nutzt es einfach die sysvinit scripte. upstart war ja extra rückwärtskompatibel
[20:40] <deem> also init.d?
[20:41] <k1l> jo
[20:41] <deem> hmm... dann frage ich mich, warum der rsync daemon beim systemstart nicht mitstartet
[22:50] <stevieh> hmm... wenn ich unter 15.10. neuinstallation die Multimedia "Lauter-Leiser" Keys betätige, hat das Ding nen endlos repeat und klemmt entsprechend. Tips, wo ich suchen kann?
[22:51] <mrkramps> stevieh, bestand das problem vor der neuinstallation nicht?
[22:52] <mrkramps> oder anders gefragt, bestand es vorher unter 15.10 nicht?
[22:53] <stevieh> mrkramps: das ding ist heute zum ersten mal mit 15.10. neu installiert worden, ich hab keine andere Distri ausprobiert.
[22:54] <mrkramps> zeigt xev außer KeyPress auch ein Event für KeyRelease?
[22:59] <stevieh> immer beides nacheinander ... aber es hört nicht auf
[23:00] <mrkramps> da diese funktionstasten immer so eine ha
[23:00] <mrkramps> … :\
[23:00] <stevieh> der rest sieht echt gut aus, bei der Möhre
[23:00] <mrkramps> gerätespezifische geschichte sind, wäre das tastatur- oder laptopmodell noch interessant
[23:00] <stevieh> MEDION AKOYA E6416
[23:01] <mrkramps> einen kommentar verkneife ich mir ;)
[23:01] <stevieh> hey, 400€. FullHD, i5-5200U. Und jetzt kommst du ;-)
[23:02] <mrkramps> ich komme damit, dass an den medion-geräten gerne mal "irgendwas" nicht so funktioniert, wie es soll
[23:02] <stevieh> pfff
[23:03] <David1977> mediomgeräte sind gar nicht sooo verkehrt
[23:03] <David1977> *medion
[23:04] <KingJamesBible> Hallo habe folgendes Problem beim extrahieren und packen von Archiven (7z, tar.gz, zip) komme ich höchsten auf schreibraten von 5-15MB/s so dass man zum entpacken eines Archives von 1GB knapp 1-2Minuten benötigt
[23:04] <David1977> nicht die qualitativsten, aber vom PL-Verhältnis ziemlich gut
[23:04] <KingJamesBible> bei .rar-Archiven komm ich allerdings auf ~400MB/s
[23:04] <stevieh> ausserdem wollte ich hier keine Grundsatzdiskussion übers schwabentum sonder tipps wo ich suchen kann?
[23:04] <KingJamesBible> woran mag dieser heftige Unterschied liegen?
[23:04] <stevieh> KingJamesBible: schlechte Software?
[23:05] <stevieh> schlechte Hardware?
[23:06] <KingJamesBible> stevieh: bei der software bin ich mir nicht sicher aber wenn ein .7z/zip Archiv mit der exakten Datei 5-15MB/s schreibt und die gleiche Datei aus einem .rar-Archiv mit 400MB/s extrahiert wird kann es doch nicht an der hardware liegen?
[23:07] <KingJamesBible> auch mag ich mich nicht daran erinnern das ich jemals derartig langsam Archive unter Windows verpackt habe
[23:07] <stevieh> theoretischerweise schon, wenn die SW mit entsprechenden support für SE4 oder wie der kram heisst kompiliert wurde...
[23:08] <KingJamesBible> also ich bin gerade ein wenig schockiert, ich dachte schon die SSD sei mir abgeraucht als ich die Schreibraten gesehen habe
[23:09] <stevieh> das ist nur bei den Volume keys.. Helligkeit und so ist problemlos
[23:21] <mrkramps> sry stevieh, ich find dazu nichts, was irgendwie zu deinem fehlerbild passtr
[23:22] <mrkramps> hat wohl ab 15.04 bei einigen geräten wieder kleine rückschritte in bezug auf die unterstützung der multimediatasten gegeben
[23:22] <mrkramps> aber das geht eher in richtung: geht gar nicht mehr
[23:26] <KingJamesBible> ich werd nich schlau daraus, irgendwie kann ich mir nicht vorstellen das die performance unter ubuntu so schlecht ist
[23:37] <KingJamesBible> Performance: .tar.gz = 250-320MB/s (Packen&Entpacken); .rar= 400MB/s (E); zip=7MB/s 170MB/s (P&E); 7z=6-15MB/s (E&P)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.126263
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-us-tx
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[17:35] <mitzip> http://www.businessinsider.com/programmer-automates-his-job-2015-11
[18:30] <thebwt> mitzip: the life
[19:21] <mitzip> lol yeah
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.129108
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"mitzip",
"thebwt"
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2015-11-25-#juju-gui
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[16:36] <cory_fu> I'm getting a report of an intermittent install hook failure from the juju-gui charm. It's failing in apt-get install, but the error output is getting swallowed: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13503590/
[16:37] <cory_fu> I can't reproduce it myself, and it's intermittent for them. Any suggestions?
[16:39] <hatch> cory_fu: sorry no idea here. Is it possible they have network issues?
[16:40] <cory_fu> Yeah, it could be
[16:40] <cory_fu> I don't really know much about their environment
[16:40] <hatch> I have seen apt install failures like that but they were always caused by network issues on the machine
[16:41] <hatch> the intermittent nature also makes me think about a network issue
[16:44] <cory_fu> hatch: Seems reasonable to me, though it makes it tough that the error output is being swallowed. Any idea why the charm is doing that?
[16:46] <hatch> no, sorry I have no idea....
[17:06] <cory_fu> https://github.com/juju/juju-gui-charm/pull/6
[17:07] <cory_fu> Created a small PR to avoid swallowing the error
[17:18] <rick_h_> bac or jcsackett ^ fyi
[17:20] <hatch> cory_fu: awesome thanks!!! Sorry I was just otp when we were chatting before :)
[17:20] <cory_fu> np
[17:20] <hatch> bac can you take a look at cory_fu's pr ^
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.131461
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"cory_fu",
"hatch",
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"channel": "#juju-gui"
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-nz
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[08:14] <hads> rdiff-backup is a bit of a finickity thing.
[18:09] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:52] <mwhudson> morning
[20:31] <olly_> morning
[21:22] <chilts> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.133944
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"chilts",
"hads",
"ibeardslee",
"mwhudson",
"olly_"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-nz"
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-tn
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[14:27] <nabdev> o/
[14:28] <nabdev> des problèmes de permission sur /etc/sudoers.d/ : sudo: unable to stat /etc/sudoers.d/README: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
[15:58] <elacheche> nabdev, can't understand.. how you get that
[15:58] <elacheche> ?
[16:05] <nabdev> i send the msg to ubuntu-fr and i find solution for that , the problem that i havn't x in access permission to /etc/sudoers.d , i correct that by execut sudo a+x /etc/sudoers.d
[16:07] <elacheche> good
[20:54] <Na3iL> o/
[21:14] <Bilel_mk> hey
[21:16] <Bilel_mk> Na3iL, hey
[21:35] <Na3iL> hey Bilel_mk hows you? :)
[21:35] <Na3iL> welcome Hamzawi-Pythoni :D
[21:36] <Bilel_mk> gooood thank you
[21:36] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> welcome man :D how about TGLUG man?
[21:37] <Na3iL> We are working on it currently :D we'll publish the website ASAP :)
[21:39] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> waiting for it :D gonna join
[21:40] <Na3iL> You are welcome :D join here → https://launchpad.net/~tglug
[21:43] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> done, approve my request :)
[21:46] <Na3iL> done.
[21:50] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> good (y)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.139051
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"Bilel_mk",
"Hamzawi-Pythoni",
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"elacheche",
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-gnome
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[13:49] <LinDol> hi all :)
[14:06] <LinDol> hi all
[15:43] <botus> hi
[15:44] <botus> Anyone know how the privacy on ubuntu gnome work? thinking about collecting data and ip and such?
[19:52] <eliasps> darkxst when should we start working on uploading gnome in staging for xenial? During the final freeze?
[21:07] <darkxst> eliasps, soon
[21:52] <eliasps> darkxst ok, let me know!
[22:30] <darkxst> eliasps, can probably start with the core bits, once 3.19.2 tarballs are out
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.140353
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"LinDol",
"botus",
"darkxst",
"eliasps"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gnome"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-x
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[17:17] <tjaalton> q
[17:17] <tjaalton> meh
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.140846
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"authors": [
"tjaalton"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-x"
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-server
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[02:48] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Hello! How do I FULLY disable ICMP timestamp requests and responses on my Ubuntu 14.04 box? :)
[03:10] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Hello! How do I FULLY disable ICMP timestamp requests and responses on my Ubuntu 14.04 box? :)
[03:14] <k2gremlin> VictoriaXOXO, shut it down? lol j/k idk
[03:15] <VictoriaXOXO> k2gremlin: :|
[03:15] <OerHeks> old answer, still valid, http://blogs.reliablepenguin.com/2009/11/17/iptables-filter-icmp-timestamp-requests >> but why would you want that?
[03:30] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Dude. You didn't include my nick.
[03:30] <VictoriaXOXO> So I missed it.
[03:30] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Does this mean that it worked? http://pastebin.com/mmQtxuf8
[04:20] <trippeh_> root@mental:~# virsh start ato-pelle
[04:20] <trippeh_> error: Failed to start domain ato-pelle
[04:20] <trippeh_> error: unsupported configuration: numad is not available on this host
[04:20] <trippeh_> root 1134 0.0 0.0 19956 136 ? Ssl 05:14 0:00 /usr/bin/numad -i 15
[04:20] <trippeh_> hrms ;)
[04:31] <trippeh_> not sure if numad is cool even, just trying things out
[04:32] <sarnold> interesting, I hadn't heard of numad before; is it libvirt-specific?
[04:32] <trippeh_> doesnt seem like it
[04:32] <sarnold> hmm, I wonder what it does that numactl doesn't already do
[04:32] <trippeh_> libvirt can query it for placement information
[04:32] <sarnold> there we go
[04:32] <trippeh_> well, recomended placement
[04:33] <sarnold> i've thought about building that myself, in part becuase I don't seem to get along with libvirt :)
[04:33] <trippeh_> libvirt tells it how many vcpus and how much memory, and it gives some recomendation back
[04:33] <sarnold> nice
[04:33] <trippeh_> "use these nodes"
[04:34] <trippeh_> of course now THP stopped working :P
[04:37] <trippeh_> hm, changed the config, it seems to do something
[04:37] <trippeh_> Wed Nov 25 05:37:32 2015: Advising pid 1969 (qemu-system-x86) move from nodes (0-1) to nodes (0)
[04:38] <trippeh_> and THP suddenly works
[04:39] <trippeh_> and numastat says all memory for the vm is on the correct node
[04:39] <trippeh_> huh
[04:39] <sarnold> woo :)
[04:40] <sarnold> now start ten more and see what happens :D
[04:41] <trippeh_> I'm trying to keep my huge Plex media VM on node 0 as all the SAS HBAs and 10Gbes are on it as well ;)
[04:41] <sarnold> your qpi link will thank you :)
[04:51] <trippeh_> could be kernel is smart enough out of the box these days tho
[04:51] <sarnold> i'm not sure about that
[04:51] <trippeh_> ok maybe not for hba/10g locality, but mem
[04:51] <sarnold> riel's been working on code to keep the memory and the processes aligned but I haven't heard of any efforts to keep the close tothe devices they need
[04:56] <trippeh_> hmm maybe thp stopped working because qemu is forgetting to madvise if you set static numa config or something
[04:56] * trippeh_ tries thp = always instead
[05:00] <trippeh_> nopes
[05:02] <trippeh_> for some reason if numad tells qemu to use a node, thp works, but if node is set in libvirt config, it doesnt anymore
[05:03] <trippeh_> smells buggy ;)
[05:08] <trippeh_> just using a cpuset seems to do the right thing
[05:08] <sarnold> and hopefully riel's work will keep the memory local just out of convenience
[05:08] <trippeh_> numastat says all the memory is on the right node
[05:09] <trippeh_> 3190 (qemu-syste 49221 0 49221
[05:09] <sarnold> is that pid, comm, node1, node2, total?
[05:10] <trippeh_> ya
[05:10] <trippeh_> well node0, node1 ;)
[05:11] <trippeh_> altough some of the other vms seems to bleed over a little
[08:13] <Xat`> hi guys
[08:14] <Xat`> anyone knows why I'm getting "Commissionning to failed commissionning", and in maas.log I have "Marking node failed: Node operation 'Commissioning' tmed out after 0:20:00"
[08:14] <Xat`> I tried to debug this during about 5 hours, unsuccessfully
[08:19] <Xat`> I have maas 1.7
[12:50] <AtuM> I am searching for a way to integrate ubuntu to MS-AD. I know that login to ubuntu can be done with an AD account.. but would that also give me proper access to windows shares or not?
[12:51] <AtuM> I would like to use autofs to reach the necessary shares.. I am now just wondering if I'll have to set up "credentials" files or not..
[12:57] <AtuM> found it. i have to see if it works on ubuntu
[15:50] <eahmedshendy> Hi, I tried to uninstall mysql-server-5.5, then install mysql-server-5.6 but I got this error while installation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502312/
[15:50] <eahmedshendy> Ubuntu 14.04.3
[15:52] <ikonia> thats coming from the Mysql PPA
[15:59] <eahmedshendy> ikonia: yes, so?
[16:17] <Mik0z> Hello, I have a fairly simple question that I can't seem to find a consensus on what to do. I am trying to figure out how to setup permissions for ubuntu 14.04.1 to allow apache to host files out of /srv/www/site.com/public_html and allow a group called webmasters, to upload files, etc. Im struggling to figure out what permission set results in this configuration, while being secure
[16:35] <nat0> Can anyone tell my why preseeding a fresh install of 14.04 from a local mirror fails after searching for dists/precise-updates/Release, which doesn't even exist on the 14.04 installer DVD?
[16:36] <TJ-> nat0: something in the preseed file maybe
[16:36] <nat0> I've combed through it several times. :-\
[16:36] <nat0> Happy to put it online for other eyes to gleen though.
[16:52] <tpsilva> I'm trying to deploy Openstack with autopilot (Ubuntu 15.04), but it hangs at 82%... can anybody help me?
[18:00] <sarnold> tpsilva: try using fatrace or or something similar to see what it's doing? is there anything enlightening in any of the log files? (there ought to be enough to choose from..)
[18:20] <tpsilva> sarnold: I can see from cinder logs that rabbitmq is probably not running properly
[18:20] <sarnold> tpsilva: aha,a start.. :)
[18:21] <tpsilva> sarnold: but I don't even know which node is supposed to run rabbitmq... I'm used to single node devstack :)
[18:22] <sarnold> tpsilva: does the autopilot thing use juju to deploy the the nodes? you may be able to juju ssh rabbitmq/0 if it does..
[18:22] <tpsilva> it does use juju... let me check that
[18:25] <tpsilva> sarnold: it says that there is no environment specified, but when I try to get a list of environments (juju switch -l), it gives me no result
[18:26] <sarnold> aww :/
[18:26] <sarnold> juju switch is newer than the last time I used juju.. look around for ~/.juju directories?
[22:46] <keithzg> Huh, under 15.10 the sort order of `ls -la` is all wonky---by which I mean it ignores dots and case. Which, sure, for average users might be best, but really not what I'd want myself. What changed in that regard since 14.04?
[22:47] <keithzg> Things go back to how I expect if I export LC_ALL=C, but I can't seem to find an equivalent "incorrect" (from my perspective) setting anywhere in /etc.
[22:48] <keithzg> Or at least, the obvious culprit /etc/default/locale has the same value now as it did in 14.04 . . .
[22:49] <keithzg> ...wait, was it wonky then and I just didn't notice? Now I'm feeling like I'm a crazy person ;)
[23:10] <sarnold> keithzg: en_US and en_US.utf8 have had the annoying non-C sort for a dozen years or more
[23:11] <sarnold> keithzg: my guess is you've have LC_COLLATE or LC_ALL or LANG set to C or C.utf8 in your ~/.bashrc or something similar :)
[23:13] <keithzg> sarnold: Ah, interesting. Yeah, that's probably it then, LC_COLLATE sounds very familiar; I definitely remember monkeying around with that in the past, and most of the systems I deal with either don't have cluttered home directories or have ones longstanding and/or mounted from central network shares, so I probably "fixed" this for myself long ago and only now am noticing it isn't that way everywhere.
[23:13] <sarnold> :)
[23:14] <keithzg> sarnold: Thank you, as always :)
[23:15] <sarnold> it took me the longest time to admit defeat and accept en_US.utf8 sorting order..
[23:42] <Gnjurac> does minimal come with some partrition tool
[23:43] <Gnjurac> ?
[23:45] <tarpman> Gnjurac: fdisk(8), and I think cfdisk(8) too
[23:45] <sarnold> probably fdisk and maybe cfdisk or gdisk or .. ?
[23:45] <sarnold> gparted perhaps?
[23:45] <sarnold> parted?
[23:47] <Gnjurac> ok
[23:47] <Gnjurac> tarpman: ty
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[19:27] <chryss> buna seara
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[01:05] <robru> Errr mah gerd
[08:38] <seb128> cihelp could you help me to understand https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/indicator-keyboard-15.04-vivid-amd64-ci/3/console ?
[08:38] <seb128> "bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "Cannot create '15.04'. Only Bazaar branches are allowed.""
[08:38] <seb128> what's the issue?
[08:38] <seb128> that's the CI on https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/indicator-keyboard/use-new-gee/+merge/278552
[08:38] <seb128> also why is it trying to use 15.04?
[09:03] <psivaa> seb128: i'll take a look at that error
[09:03] <seb128> psivaa, hey, thanks
[09:26] <psivaa> seb128: this is occurring since the target branch for vivid builds have been marked as lp:indicator-keyboard/15.04
[09:26] <psivaa> seb128: this is inline with all the projects in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cupstream2distro-maintainers/cupstream2distro-config/trunk/revision/1261#stacks/vivid/indicators.cfg
[09:27] <psivaa> for e.g. indicator bluetooth: https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-bluetooth/trunk.15.04
[09:27] <seb128> psivaa, where is the vivid coming from?
[09:27] <seb128> psivaa, we land to xenial by default it's a desktop project
[09:30] <psivaa> seb128: back in last May, we asked for the teams to let us know what releases each projects needs to be built and run against, and https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xaUV9QDNl_r9QJJ0DwiaigxD1qTYUW5V3aperJMRqsI/edit#gid=0 is the information we obtained
[09:31] <psivaa> line 66, is the relevant one
[09:37] <seb128> psivaa, l67 states trunk should build against wily
[09:44] <seb128> psivaa, l66 is lp:indicator-keyboard/15.04 but that branch doesn't even exist
[09:44] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/indicator-keyboard
[09:44] <seb128> we have just trunk
[09:45] <psivaa> seb128: we could just remove the lp:indicator-keyboard/15.04 part if that does not exist
[09:46] <seb128> psivaa, +1
[09:46] <psivaa> seb128: ack, thanks. will work on it
[09:46] <seb128> thanks
[10:19] <robru> cihelp https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/cu2d-choo-choo-ci/931/console "Unable to create directory /var/lib/jenkins/.pylint.d" this used to work, did something change?
[10:21] <psivaa> robru: will give that a look in a little bit
[10:21] <robru> psivaa, thanks
[10:23] <robru> psivaa, oh nm that might be a false positive, there's a test failure hiding further up the log
[10:27] <robru> psivaa, yeah, sorry for the noise, that's all me
[10:27] <psivaa> robru: ack, thanks
[10:28] <robru> yw
[14:20] <jgdx> cihelp: hey, seeing "Could not add content object 'None' due to IO Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/log/syslog'" in autopilot tests run by jenkins. Why is that?
[14:27] <fginther> jgdx, that is something the test or autopilot itself is doing. Autopilot is trying to add a section of /var/log/syslog as an artifact to the test case in the event it has messages relevant to the test.
[14:28] <fginther> jgdx, that should have no impact on the outcome of the test, it just means that it couldn't supply richer content. I recommend following up with the QA team if you still have questions.
[14:28] <jgdx> fginther, okay, thank you
[14:47] <jgdx> fginther, what about ERROR: Step ?Publish JUnit test result report? failed: No test report files were found. Configuration error? ?
[14:47] <fginther> jgdx, looking
[14:47] <jgdx> it's new, seems to have happened post krillin migration
[14:47] <fginther> jgdx, oh, do you have an example?
[14:47] <jgdx> fginther, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-touch/4268/console
[14:47] <jgdx> or post jenkins upgrade
[14:47] <jgdx> not sure what the timelines are
[14:49] <fginther> jgdx, that build timed out while running. Looks like the test got stuck after a little more than 20 minutes
[14:50] <jgdx> fginther, i see
[14:50] <fginther> jgdx, that explains why there were no test results. As to why the test got stuck, no real idea.
[14:51] <fginther> jgdx, it appears to get stuck when autopilot tries to launch the app
[14:52] <jgdx> fginther, too bad there are no artifacts left over
[14:56] <fginther> jgdx, yeah. it's hitting the jenkins build timeout which doesn't give the test a chance to cleanup and collect any artifacts. We might be able to improve that. I'll create a task for this and see if someone has a chance to investigate
[14:56] <jgdx> fginther, appreciate it. I'll try to figure out why it crashed.
[15:29] <dobey> Mirv: if you're still around i think we can go ahead and publish silo 15 now :)
[15:36] <Mirv> dobey: kind of not anymore but I can still do that
[15:36] <dobey> Mirv: it's not? or you're gone for the day?
[15:37] <sil2100> I can publish if needed
[15:37] <Mirv> dobey: yes, I stop usually 1h ago, if I try to have a free evening. but as you can see I'm still here occasionally :)
[15:38] <dobey> Mirv: no worries, can bug someone else to publish it. go enjoy your evening :)
[15:38] <Mirv> sil2100: sure, sure, with your great new powers! :)
[15:38] * sil2100 feels so powerful now
[15:38] <sil2100> ;)
[15:39] <sil2100> Mirv: anyway, go back to enjoying your EOD, I'll review the changes and publish if all is good
[15:40] <Mirv> sil2100: I've reviewed them, but now I shall go yes. the new src doesn't need prenewing, as it will actually go to the correct queue.
[15:46] <Mirv> sil2100: robru: one more thing, it doesn't seem https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-015-2-publish/133/console published the new package qtpurchasing... probably a train bug https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-015-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packagelist_rsync_ubuntu-landing-015/*view*/
[15:47] <Mirv> sil2100: robru: the two other packages naturally appeared in archives, but the package not included in the rsync file didn't end up in NEW queue. copied manually now.
[15:48] <sil2100> hmmm
[15:48] <Mirv> I've published new sources before with the train, so this might be due to some of robru's later changes. it tries to debdiff against empty in the log and fails.
[15:48] <sil2100> I think we didn publish a new package some time ago already and then it got copied correctly IIRC
[15:49] <Mirv> also "WARNING qtpurchasing-opensource-src version 5.6.0~git20151023.2f454143-0ubuntu1 not greater than None, skipping."
[15:49] <sil2100> Oho
[16:12] <oSoMoN> jibel, can https://trello.com/c/WnDtwp1e/2518-665-ubuntu-landing-002-webbrowser-app-osomon be updated? the MR has been approved
[16:13] <jibel> oSoMoN, yes, thanks.
[16:14] <jibel> and done
[17:55] <rvr> jamesh: Approved silo 40
[18:31] <robru> Mirv, sil2100, indeed that regression is my fault, sorry, will fix shortly
[19:43] <davmor2> jhodapp: ^ any minute
[19:46] <jhodapp> davmor2, yay awesome!!
[19:46] <jhodapp> davmor2, thanks for testing
[19:47] <davmor2> jhodapp: yeah I just tested for regressions and couldn't see any as the current music-app keeps the back and forward buttons disabled
[19:47] <jhodapp> davmor2, yep that's very good
[19:48] <jhodapp> davmor2, and it was still determined that any current issues were with music-app dev anyway, so we are good with music-app stable and dev
[19:48] <ahayzen> \o/
[19:48] <jhodapp> kenvandine, you're a core dev right?
[19:48] <kenvandine> jhodapp, yup
[19:48] <kenvandine> jhodapp, what can i do for you?
[19:48] <davmor2> jhodapp: so is sil2100
[19:48] <jhodapp> kenvandine, mind landing silo 9 for us please since it has a source pkg only?
[19:49] * kenvandine looks
[19:50] <kenvandine> lots of packaging changes there...
[19:50] <kenvandine> reviewing
[19:50] <jhodapp> kenvandine, yup
[19:51] <jhodapp> kenvandine, ok thanks, abeato had also reviewed them as well
[19:51] <jhodapp> kenvandine, also double check that we're ok on the qtmultimedia-opensource-src-gles
[19:52] <oSoMoN> rvr, hey, how is testing of silo 2 going so far?
[19:53] <rvr> oSoMoN: I just started
[19:53] <rvr> oSoMoN: I understand the tab animation must be different
[19:53] <oSoMoN> rvr, it must be much smoother
[19:54] <davmor2> kenvandine: man it's only 5000-ish lines it's not like it's a lot ;)
[19:54] <oSoMoN> rvr, perhaps the most visible difference is that the black flash that was happening when switching tabs is now gone
[19:54] <rvr> oSoMoN: Stupid question: is that on the phone, right?
[19:55] <oSoMoN> rvr, yes
[19:55] <kenvandine> jhodapp, shouldn't one of these packages build dep on the new version of qtmultimedia?
[19:55] <oSoMoN> rvr, actually the black flash was also happening on desktop, and that is fixed with this silo, but the bulk of the improvements concerns the animation on phone
[19:56] <jhodapp> kenvandine, no since it's a dynamic plugin loaded at run time
[19:56] <jhodapp> qtubuntu-media
[19:56] <kenvandine> ok
[19:56] <jhodapp> good question though!
[19:57] <kenvandine> i guess it should have been obvious that wasn't the build dep :)
[19:57] <kenvandine> feels like friday already :-p
[19:58] <jhodapp> hehe
[19:58] <jhodapp> indeed it does :)
[19:58] <rvr> oSoMoN: I see, much smoother indeed
[19:58] <rvr> oSoMoN: I'm going to test other things, but that looks good
[19:59] <oSoMoN> rvr, thanks, let me know if anything comes up, I’ll be around for another hour or so
[20:23] <jhodapp> kenvandine, thanks for landing that
[20:29] <kenvandine> jhodapp, np
[21:38] <jgdx> cihelp: any idea why sudo fails like that [1]? HW failure? [1] http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-touch/4281/console
[21:39] <fginther> jgdx, looking
[21:40] <jgdx> fginther, thanks. I just ran the whole suite on my mako, all green :(
[21:41] <fginther> jgdx, it looks like the network failed to connect, but the error message is very confusing
[21:44] <jgdx> fginther, seems to have happened before as well.. e.g. http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-touch/4241/console
[21:49] <jgdx> fginther, is there a way to just do the autopilot builds, i.e. using a previous set of debs instead of building them every time?
[21:50] <fginther> jgdx, it is possible to just rebuild that job, (http://s-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/job/generic-deb-autopilot-runner-vivid-touch/4281/rebuild/)
[21:50] <jgdx> fginther, but that will rebuild debs
[21:50] <fginther> jgdx, the only downside is that doesn't automatically update the MP with the results
[21:50] <jgdx> aah
[21:50] <jgdx> okay
[21:50] <jgdx> that's fine
[21:51] <fginther> jgdx, that's your quickest workaround to the problem. It may be possible to improve the retry logic for the networking failure, but that obviously doesn't help you right now
[21:53] <jgdx> fginther, no issue now that I can rerun the ap jobs directly. Thanks for that
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-si
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[00:16] <Pepelka> [OMG! Ubuntu!] Sam Tran: November News Roundup http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/dFlVijpysoE/november-2015-news-roundup
[06:27] <napsy_> jutro
[06:42] <slax0r> jutro
[09:29] <CrazyLemon> .yt retro culture cold
[09:29] <jabuk> Retro Culture - Cold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTzw8dLVqx8
[09:31] <dz0ny> kdor ne mara mitmproxy https://github.com/kdzwinel/betwixt
[09:31] <Pepelka> kdzwinel/betwixt · GitHub
[09:31] <Pepelka> »betwixt - ⚡Web Debugging Proxy based on Chrome DevTools Network panel.«
[09:31] <dz0ny> ceprov tole ne zna custom certa
[10:09] <yang> .vreme scottsdale
[10:09] <jabuk> Scottsdale, AZ, USA: 14.44°C http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/weather/Scottsdale__AZ/*http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/USAZ0207_f.html
[10:09] <yang> .vreme lj
[10:09] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 0.6°C @25.11.2015 10:00 UTC.
[10:09] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 75% severnik 0.8 m/s (2.9 km/h)
[10:09] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:16:57, Kulminacija: 10:50:17, Sončni zahod: 15:23:36
[10:09] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 06min 39s, Luna je v ščipu
[15:00] <CrazyLemon> .vreme ljubljana
[15:00] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 0.9°C @25.11.2015 14:30 UTC.
[15:00] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 72% jugovzhodnik 1 m/s (3.6 km/h)
[15:00] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:16:59, Kulminacija: 10:50:20, Sončni zahod: 15:23:40
[15:00] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 06min 40s, Luna je v ščipu
[15:01] <CrazyLemon> zmrznili niste..torej slow wendnesday?
[15:01] <CrazyLemon> wednesday*
[15:01] <idioterna> not too slow
[15:04] <CrazyLemon> http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/11/arso_opozarja_pred_valovi.aspx
[15:04] <Pepelka> Agencija za okolje opozarja: Valovi na morju lahko presežejo višino treh metrov | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[15:04] <Pepelka> »Morje bo v četrtek in petek zaradi burje vzvalovano. Najvišji valovi lahko nekaj sto metrov od obale dosežejo višino prek treh metrov.«
[15:04] <CrazyLemon> surfs up
[15:05] <slax0r> have fun
[15:05] <pitastrudl> lol
[15:05] <pitastrudl> .vreme koper
[15:05] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 7.9°C @25.11.2015 14:30 UTC.
[15:05] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 50% severovzhodnik 1.6 m/s (5.8 km/h)
[15:05] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:18:27, Kulminacija: 10:53:26, Sončni zahod: 15:28:25
[15:05] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 09min 58s, Luna je v ščipu
[15:05] <pitastrudl> wo
[15:05] <pitastrudl> .vreme ljubljana
[15:05] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 0.9°C @25.11.2015 14:30 UTC.
[15:05] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 72% jugovzhodnik 1 m/s (3.6 km/h)
[15:05] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:16:59, Kulminacija: 10:50:20, Sončni zahod: 15:23:40
[15:05] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 06min 40s, Luna je v ščipu
[15:05] <pitastrudl> a kr al ka
[15:06] <CrazyLemon> čez vikend naj bi bilo 10!
[15:06] <CrazyLemon> torej bikes up?!
[15:21] <pitastrudl> dans zjutri sem bil v lj
[15:21] <pitastrudl> kr mrzlo ajga
[15:21] <slax0r> je blo -4 ali -5 danes zjutraj v grazu
[15:21] <CrazyLemon> -2 je bilo na obali..tko da dot dot dot
[15:24] <idioterna> jsm se po snegu sprehajal zjutri
[15:24] <CrazyLemon> sprehajal? še vedno ne voziš kolesa ?? you sick or smth?
[15:27] <idioterna> mhm
[15:27] <idioterna> yang je reku da pretiravam
[15:27] <idioterna> zdej se pa ne vozm vec
[15:28] <Sky[x]> PHP 7.0 will be officially released on December 3rd.
[15:28] <CrazyLemon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUqklYwWIAEqpcN.png:large
[15:32] <slax0r> Sky[x]: ce ne bo spet kak hicup :)
[15:32] <Sky[x]> slax0r: jp :)
[15:52] <pitastrudl> idioterna pretiravaš z tem da si pretiravu
[15:52] <pitastrudl> :-D
[15:58] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gIxji28Zlg ha ha ha
[15:58] <Pepelka> "johny johny yes papa" popular nursery rhyme with lyrics - YouTube
[15:58] <Pepelka> »connect with us on blog http://eduplusswf.blogspot.in subscribe for more educational video http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=eduplusswf ani...«
[15:59] <pitastrudl> dafuk je to upd
[15:59] <upd> weird side of yt.
[15:59] <pitastrudl> yep
[16:00] <pitastrudl> .weather koper
[16:00] <pitastrudl> .vreme koper
[16:00] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 6.7°C @25.11.2015 15:30 UTC.
[16:00] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 53% vzhodnik 1.9 m/s (6.8 km/h)
[16:00] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:18:27, Kulminacija: 10:53:26, Sončni zahod: 15:28:25
[16:00] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 09min 58s, Luna je v ščipu
[16:39] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: ofc zate velja graf log2 oblike
[16:51] <yang> Ej kaj je s tem fuzbalom, se mi zdi da so imeli v 10ih dneh 3 tekme
[16:51] <yang> A je kaksno prvenstvo ?
[16:51] <zdobersek> jah sportajo
[16:51] <yang> ja, ponavad je ena tekma na 14 dni
[16:51] <yang> zdaj se pa kar vrstijo
[16:52] <zdobersek> idioterna je bil vsak dan na kolesu, ti ni blo vsec
[16:52] <zdobersek> zdej ti gre v nos, da se fucbal zogo brcajo malo bolj pogosteje
[16:52] <yang> sprasujem, nisem reku da mi ni vsec
[16:52] <zdobersek> kdo pa si, da bi svoj zivljenjski stil drugim vsiljeval
[16:52] <yang> ti zgleda si narobe prebral
[16:53] <zdobersek> a bos zdej se slucajno reku, da istospolni pari ne smejo otrok posvojevat, ker se ti s tem ne strinjas
[16:53] <yang> pa zgleda da tut nisi kej dost na tekocem s fuzbalom ce ne znas odgovorit
[16:53] <zdobersek> olimpija brca proti krki
[16:53] <yang> nej brca, sam zanima me a je kaksna liga al prvenstvo
[16:54] <yang> da je tok pogosto zdej to pozimi
[16:54] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek makes sense
[16:54] <zdobersek> CrazyLemon: kvaj
[16:54] <zdobersek> yang: pokal je
[16:54] <CrazyLemon> [17:39:28] <zdobersek>: CrazyLemon: ofc zate velja graf log2 oblike
[16:54] <CrazyLemon> [17:54:24] <CrazyLemon>: zdobersek makes sense
[16:55] <yang> zdobersek: glede istospolnih parov bo pa ljudstvo odlocalo zgleda
[16:55] <yang> ampak ne bom vec komentiral tem v zvezi s tem pa v zvezi z begunci in drogami
[16:56] <yang> ker se je najlazje okol tega prepirat
[16:56] <zdobersek> jah, ce nimas prav
[16:56] <yang> saj je vseeno kdo ima prav
[16:56] <yang> so dobre teme za se skregat
[16:57] <yang> in idioterna vidim, da zlo rad obuja te teme, ocitno mu manjka prepir
[16:58] <zdobersek> zdej probava kompenzirat z nasilnimi igrami, ampak vcasih ne rata
[16:58] <yang> :)
[16:59] <zdobersek> dva dni nazaj smo mal prej koncal, ker se je moral it sem prepirat
[17:00] <yang> jaz itak ne jemljem resno takih ki so stari nad 30 in igrajo streljacine
[17:01] <zdobersek> zakaj?
[17:02] <yang> ker so otrocji
[17:02] <zdobersek> ooooook
[18:52] <CrazyLemon> insurgency is on sale..66% off
[18:52] <CrazyLemon> torej 5.09€
[19:12] <zdobbie> and I'm just sitting here, with the game bought, waiting for the summon
[19:18] <dz0ny> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/FoundationsXPythonVersions
[19:18] <Pepelka> Python/FoundationsXPythonVersions - Ubuntu Wiki
[19:18] <dz0ny> dr, drop,drop,drop...
[19:30] <idioterna> zdobbie: CrazyLemon ?
[19:30] <zdobbie> ja kuoncn
[19:41] <zdobbie> al pa ne
[19:41] <CrazyLemon> kja ne
[19:42] <idioterna> hehe
[19:42] <idioterna> no jsm zdej przgal
[19:42] <CrazyLemon> no js pridem za 3min
[19:42] <idioterna> ok
[19:48] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie kaj zdaj
[19:51] <idioterna> zdobbie: so?
[19:54] <zdobbie> a no
[19:54] <zdobbie> en klic se opravim
[21:14] <pitastrudl> ima kdo mogoče otg kabel z zunanjim napajanjem? :)?
[21:14] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon tvoja pasta je še vedno pri meni, heh
[21:17] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl vem ja
[21:17] <zdobbie> kaj mate to nek spaghetti sharing
[21:17] <pitastrudl> wat
[21:17] <CrazyLemon> jelly much?
[21:18] <Sky[x]> hehe
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-cy
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[19:41] <webdrone> hello?
[19:41] <webdrone> hello?
[19:41] <webdrone> heelo
[19:41] <webdrone> hello
[19:43] <webdrone> peace out
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-africa
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[08:05] <craigbrash> morning all , are we meeting tonight?
[16:04] <Kilos--> hellooo africa
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-vn
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[03:05] <vubuntor036> chao anh chi admin
[03:05] <vubuntor036> ubuntu em khong thanh hien thi thanh menu
[03:09] <vubuntor036> chao
[03:10] <lewtds> chaociao
[03:11] <vubuntor036> ubuntu em khong hien thi thanh menu
[03:12] <lewtds> menu nào?
[03:12] <lewtds> cái ở trên cùng hay cái bên trái?
[03:12] <vubuntor036> ben trai
[03:14] <lewtds> update rồi cài lại unity và ubuntu-desktop xem
[03:14] <lewtds> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:14] <lewtds> sudo apt-get install unity
[03:17] <vubuntor036> da.
[03:17] <vubuntor036> em cai lai ubuntu moi nhung so mat het du lieu
[03:19] <lewtds> ơ 2 lệnh trên kia k cài lại ubuntu đâu
[03:19] <lewtds> chỉ là cài lại 2 gói quan trọng của nó thôi
[03:19] <vubuntor036> da. em hoi 1 chut nua
[03:20] <vubuntor036> neu khong hien thi 2 thanh ben trai va ben tren thi sao
[03:24] <lewtds> thì chịu rồi
[03:24] <lewtds> lâu rồi /me k dùng Unity
[03:24] <lewtds> nữa nên cũng chả bị mấy lỗi này bh
[03:28] <vubuntor036> da.
[03:28] <vubuntor036> cam on anh chi
[13:15] <CoconutCrab> .tell lewtds https://igurublog.wordpress.com/tag/gtk3/ fuck GNOME :3
[13:15] <SuperLuserv3> CoconutCrab: I'll pass that on when lewtds is around.
[13:15] <SuperLuserv3> [ gtk3 « IgnorantGuru's Blog ] - igurublog.wordpress.com
[13:15] <CoconutCrab> ops
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2015-11-25-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[18:12] <OvenWerk1> something has changed in the 1604 upgrades, pulse handles logout/in now.
[18:17] <OvenWerk1> gedit on the other hand greys out a "picture frame" around itself and has no window decorations. Or rather it makes it's own decorations. We may be looking for another text editor :P
[18:27] <OvenWerk1> Pulse in 16.04 has more options in using jack-sink/source. So my startup script doesn't work for 14.04.
[18:31] <OvenWerk1> everything is basically working for my autojack starting script. I just have to make sure I don't double start the user's choice device if it is not default :)
[18:39] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: The extra desktop file in imagemagick may have been fixed. It is not listed as one of the files installed by the package. SO it may have been fixed but the new install did not remove the old file for some reason.
[18:40] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: It may need to be verified that a live session from a new ISO only has one menu entry.
[18:56] <OvenWerk1> zequence: medit has more features than mouse pad and looks similar to what we have had with gedit in the past.
[19:41] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: Imagemagick seems to need a file on the command line to open. Unfortuately, we are not the dev or packager so we can't really second guess what they mean. For our use, adding "Don't show" (or whatever) to the desktop file would make mosty sense... if it is meant to be opened from the menu, the it needs to start with no file.
[19:45] <OvenWerk1> zequence: in the case of adding extra audio interfaces with zita-ajbridge, I have set it to two channels only (the default) but maybe it should be all. Comments?
[19:46] <OvenWerk1> wow zita-ajbridge now allows no SR if the devices are already synced.
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[02:14] * ahoneybun has an idea
[02:19] <ahoneybun> email out to the mailing list
[02:35] <ahoneybun> jck77: you around?
[02:36] <ahoneybun> jck77: at Nova on the 3rd there is an event going on that I can't make till later in that day
[02:37] <mhall119> ahoneybun: do you want to make ITPalooza an event on our meetup group?
[02:38] <ahoneybun> I think that would be a good idea, I'm trying hard to see if we can be there at a booth as well
[02:39] <ahoneybun> I'm sure I can get us one np, I just need people or a person to man it till I can get there
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2015-11-25-#juju-dev
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[00:05] <thumper> davecheney: did you find a simple reproduction test case for the dbus issue?
[00:07] <davecheney> working on it now
[00:07] <davecheney> will time box it til lunch
[00:07] <davecheney> then move on to '632
[00:20] <davecheney> menn0: you're on call reviewer ? http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3228/
[00:20] <davecheney> ta
[00:33] <menn0> davecheney: looking
[00:47] <menn0> davecheney: I don't completely get the fslock code, but ship it I guess
[00:47] <davecheney> menn0: IMO the fslock code is broke
[00:47] <davecheney> and that fix just made it worse
[00:48] <menn0> yeah the fix didn't make any sense to me
[00:48] <davecheney> look at line 111
[00:48] <davecheney> line 125 is a noop
[00:48] <menn0> davecheney: exactly, that's what didn't make any sense
[00:49] <davecheney> i want to revert the change so I can reopen the bug
[00:49] <davecheney> func (conn *Conn) Signal(ch chan<- *Signal)
[00:49] <davecheney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1519097
[00:49] <mup> Bug #1519097: juju/utils/fslock: data race caused by createAliveFile running twice <juju-core:Fix Committed by dooferlad> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519097>
[00:50] <davecheney> thumper: i screwed around with dbus to try to make a repro but it's going to be a lot of work
[00:50] <davecheney> waigani: do you have the panic message you got ?
[00:50] <davecheney> i'll raise a bug with the dbus project
[00:50] <davecheney> thumper: I've created a fake dbus read/write/closer in an attempt to be a message pump that just spews out signal messags
[00:51] <waigani> davecheney: yep, one sec
[00:51] <davecheney> but it won't work unless it can emulate all the dbus connection handshaking
[00:51] <waigani> davecheney: here you go: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13488000/
[00:55] <davecheney> waigani: ta
[01:04] <davecheney> waigani: https://github.com/godbus/dbus/issues/45
[01:04] <davecheney> i'll look at fixing it this week
[01:05] <waigani> davecheney: perfect. Thank you :)
[01:05] <waigani> insane unit test rig, indeed
[01:10] <davecheney> it's unreasonable for other people to have to install all the stuff we do to reproduce our bugs
[02:04] <davecheney> thumper: cherylj perhaps this is the problem
[02:04] <davecheney> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju) % juju set-env agent-stream=devel
[02:04] <davecheney> WARNING key "agent-stream" is not defined in the current environment configuration: possible misspelling
[02:12] <davecheney> thumper: cherylj I cannot reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1517632
[02:12] <mup> Bug #1517632: juju upgrade-juju after upload-tools fails <juju-core:Triaged by dave-cheney> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517632>
[02:12] <davecheney> works for me
[02:13] <thumper> davecheney: please comment on the bug as non-reproducable with what you tried, and unassign from you
[02:16] <davecheney> thumper: done
[02:17] <cherylj> davecheney: yeah, you'll see that error if you haven't set agent-stream before. It'll still pick up the correct stream.
[02:20] <davecheney> which it did
[02:20] <davecheney> and worked fine
[02:20] <cherylj> yeah, at this point, I'll need to see if the bootstack team can recreate.
[02:21] <thumper> clucking bell
[02:21] <thumper> I have the fix for a bug
[02:21] <thumper> the hard bit is testing the freaking thing
[03:02] <cherylj> wallyworld: ping?
[03:02] <wallyworld> hey
[03:03] <cherylj> hey wallyworld, I've got a question for you. The people who ran into that weird 1.23 -> 1.24 upgrade error yesterday are asking what they should do now - do a restore to 1.23, or do a file-level backup to 1.20, before they upgraded to 1.23
[03:03] <cherylj> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1517992
[03:04] <mup> Bug #1517992: juju-upgrade to 1.24.7 leaves juju state server unreachable <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517992>
[03:04] <cherylj> if you're interested in taking a look
[03:04] <cherylj> I'm not sure what problems they could run in to with the file level backup.
[03:04] <wallyworld> when you say "do a file level backup to 1.20", what do you mean?
[03:05] <cherylj> Like restoring through something like crash plan or something
[03:05] <cherylj> outside of juju
[03:06] <wallyworld> so you mean try and go back to 1.20
[03:06] <wallyworld> and then upgrade to 1.24
[03:06] <cherylj> yes
[03:06] <wallyworld> menno has a script to upgrade off 1.23
[03:06] <wallyworld> i'd go that path first
[03:07] <wallyworld> as it has been tested and used by customers
[03:07] <cherylj> do you know where I can find it?
[03:07] <wallyworld> menn0: where's you 1.23 upgrade script?
[03:07] <wallyworld> there was an email somewhere
[03:08] * menn0 looks
[03:08] * menn0 remembers
[03:08] <menn0> it's a juju plugin
[03:08] <menn0> in the standard repo
[03:09] <menn0> https://github.com/juju/plugins/blob/master/juju-unstick-upgrade
[03:09] <wallyworld> cherylj: that that help? ^^^^^
[03:09] <cherylj> hopefully.
[03:10] <cherylj> menn0: they're seeing this error on their state server:
[03:10] <cherylj> 2015-11-19 17:28:27 DEBUG juju.apiserver.upgrader upgrader.go:185 desired version is 1.24.7, but current version is 1.23.3 and agent is not a manager node
[03:10] <cherylj> would that script help in the case where the state server doesn't think it's a manager node?
[03:11] <menn0> that could be a side effect of the condition
[03:11] <menn0> cherylj: oh hang on, the message is from on the state server?
[03:12] <cherylj> menn0: yeah
[03:16] * thumper headdesks
[03:16] <menn0> cherylj: weird. in the state server's logs does it look like most of the workers have have shut down?
[03:16] <thumper> I don't like this but submitting a fix with no test
[03:17] <cherylj> menn0: the state server will start up, then shut down as it's trying to do an upgrade, but then that fails because of that error
[03:18] <cherylj> I mean, it will shut down the workers to try and do an upgrade
[03:19] <menn0> cherylj: hmmm, not sure.
[03:19] * menn0 looks at that code
[03:20] <thumper> menn0: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3230/
[03:20] <menn0> cherylj: the plugin might still get the state server through it
[03:21] <menn0> cherylj: it'll change the tools symlink for the agent to the new version and restart the agent
[03:21] <menn0> cherylj: which will get it running the new version
[03:23] <cherylj> menn0: okay, I will have them give it a try. Thanks!
[03:24] <menn0> thumper: ship it
[03:24] <thumper> menn0: ta
[03:25] <menn0> cherylj: they'll want to follow the instructions for installing juju-plugins. once they have the "juju unstick-upgrade" command will be available.
[03:26] <cherylj> thanks, menn0. Hopefully this will work for them!
[03:27] <cherylj> just one more question. This was a failed upgrade off of 1.23 (to 1.24.7). Will it still be okay to run the script?
[03:28] <cherylj> menn0: ^^
[03:40] <menn0> cherylj: yes
[03:40] <menn0> cherylj: it addresses specific problems with getting off 1.23 to something newer 1.24 and up
[03:40] <cherylj> menn0: cool, thanks. Just wanted to double check :)
[03:53] <thumper> wallyworld: got a quick minute?
[03:54] <wallyworld> sure
[03:54] <thumper> 1:1 hangout
[04:06] <davecheney>
[04:06] <davecheney> p
[04:07] * thumper is done
[04:18] <mup> Bug #1438951 changed: destroy-enviroment --force destroy all aws instances <destroy-environment> <ec2-provider> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438951>
[04:18] <mup> Bug #1472009 changed: manual provisioning with juju requires systemd-services <manual-provider> <systemd> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472009>
[04:24] <mup> Bug #1438951 opened: destroy-enviroment --force destroy all aws instances <destroy-environment> <ec2-provider> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438951>
[04:24] <mup> Bug #1472009 opened: manual provisioning with juju requires systemd-services <manual-provider> <systemd> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472009>
[04:27] <mup> Bug #1438951 changed: destroy-enviroment --force destroy all aws instances <destroy-environment> <ec2-provider> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438951>
[04:27] <mup> Bug #1472009 changed: manual provisioning with juju requires systemd-services <manual-provider> <systemd> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472009>
[04:33] <mup> Bug #1438951 opened: destroy-enviroment --force destroy all aws instances <destroy-environment> <ec2-provider> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438951>
[04:33] <mup> Bug #1472009 opened: manual provisioning with juju requires systemd-services <manual-provider> <systemd> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472009>
[04:36] <mup> Bug #1438951 changed: destroy-enviroment --force destroy all aws instances <destroy-environment> <ec2-provider> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438951>
[04:36] <mup> Bug #1472009 changed: manual provisioning with juju requires systemd-services <manual-provider> <systemd> <juju-core:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472009>
[05:04] <davecheney> menn0: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3232/
[07:00] <wallyworld> mattyw: is there a hangout?
[07:00] <mattyw> wallyworld, ashipika grrr, should be one in the meeting thing?
[07:01] <wallyworld> not that i can see
[07:01] <mattyw> I remember giving it a "witty" name
[07:01] <ashipika> mattyw: how about https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/cross-model-relations
[07:01] <mattyw> ashipika, heading there now, I can't even add a hangout to the meeting it seems
[07:50] <wallyworld> urulama: i have run into a problem. the charm store PutArchive function, called via the charmrepo UploadArchive(), complains when a charm is uploaded without a Series in the URL. But with series in metadata, it's perfectly ok to do this.
[07:51] <wallyworld> so I have a bunch of failing juju tests
[07:51] <urulama> wallyworld: so, yes, if series is in metadata, then you don't need it in the url. if it's not, then it's an old charm and series must be in the url as before
[07:52] <wallyworld> ok, i need then to look at the test charms used by juju, thanks
[07:52] <urulama> np
[07:53] <urulama> that behaviour is required to keep things backward compatible (and also makes sense, series must be provided somewhere in the uplaod)
[08:16] <frobware> dimitern, ping
[08:16] <dimitern> frobware, hey
[08:17] <frobware> dimitern, re: 1519527 - are you on MAAS rc1 or rc2?
[08:17] <dimitern> frobware, on rc1 still
[08:18] <dimitern> frobware, but it was upgraded one too many times I think it's time for a fresh install
[08:19] <dimitern> frobware, I was having issues with the old desktop pc I'm using - 1G RAM only, i386 P4 and occasionally overheating and throttling down - all that slows down machines deployment a lot
[08:23] <frobware> dimitern, I was asking to see if the issue came in rc2; I still have rc1 so will try there first.
[08:23] <frobware> dimitern, good morning btw. ;)
[08:25] <dimitern> frobware, good morning :)
[08:25] <dimitern> frobware, I'm done with service bindings in state - proposed it late last night
[08:26] <dimitern> frobware, I'm doing a quick live test first and then will update the PR's description and ask for reviews
[08:27] <frobware> dimitern, sounds great
[08:28] <dimitern> frobware, wait until you see the diff :)
[08:29] <frobware> dimitern, could do with brainstorming session later regarding rendering /e/n/i for bonds.
[08:29] <dimitern> frobware, sure
[08:39] <dimitern> dooferlad, ping
[08:52] <dimitern> fwereade, morning!
[08:52] <fwereade> dimitern, o/
[08:52] <jam> morning dimitern
[08:52] <dimitern> jam, morning :)
[08:53] <dimitern> fwereade, I have a review for you, if you can have a look: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3223/
[08:53] <dimitern> fwereade, it's a bit large, but mostly due to heavy testing :)
[09:27] <voidspace> dooferlad: ping
[09:27] <dooferlad> voidspace: hi
[09:28] <voidspace> dooferlad: did you see my messages about SetNodeNetworkLink about 5:20pm last night?
[09:28] <dooferlad> voidspace: no
[09:28] <voidspace> dooferlad: SetNodeNetworkLink is new, right?
[09:28] <voidspace> dooferlad: it would be much more convenient if it took a SystemID rather than a Node
[09:29] <voidspace> dooferlad: as getting a node is inconvenient, and constructing one just to pass a system id (all the function actually needs) is a minor burden :-)
[09:29] <dooferlad> voidspace: OK, can you write what you want in an email / task? I am looking at another problem + have meetings
[09:29] <voidspace> dooferlad: ok
[09:29] <voidspace> dooferlad: np, see you at standup
[09:40] <fwereade> dimitern, reviewed, ping if questions
[09:41] <dimitern> fwereade, cheers!
[09:55] <wallyworld> urulama: there's still a problem. the charmstore.v5 func (h *ReqHandler) serveArchive(id *charm.URL...) method expects id to have series set. but it doesn't. the content which is uploaded has series in metadata, but that handler checks id.Series even before looking at the contents of the request
[09:56] <wallyworld> so it seems you can't upload a charm with url "~user/wordpress" even if the metadata.yaml has series
[09:57] <wallyworld> that's using charmrepo.v2 csclient UploadCharmWithRevision()
[09:58] <urulama> did you set the export?
[09:58] <wallyworld> this is for tests
[09:58] <urulama> hm
[09:58] <wallyworld> urulama: looking at the code, i can't see how it could possibly work
[09:59] <urulama> which code?
[09:59] <wallyworld> the code path used does not allow an id with out a series
[09:59] <wallyworld> charmrepo.v2 csclient UploadCharmWithRevision()
[09:59] <wallyworld> github.com/juju/juju/testcharms/charm.go:64
[09:59] <urulama> you cant upload a charm with revision!
[09:59] <wallyworld> sorry
[09:59] <wallyworld> gopkg.in/juju/charmrepo.v2-unstable/csclient/csclient.go:191
[10:00] <wallyworld> no, there is a revison
[10:00] <wallyworld> i just left off the params
[10:00] <wallyworld> the code is
[10:00] <wallyworld> err = client.UploadCharmWithRevision(id, ch, promulgatedRevision)
[10:00] <urulama> yes, promulgated revision :)
[10:00] <wallyworld> where promulgatedRevision is 3 or whatever
[10:00] <wallyworld> id is "wordpress-3"
[10:00] <wallyworld> ch is a charm with series in metadata
[10:01] <urulama> that the case to support the ingestion, where we have to use that
[10:01] <wallyworld> i follow the code and i can see how it would fail, the code doesn't allow id to have an emoty series
[10:01] <urulama> uploads should never set revisions in normal cases
[10:01] <wallyworld> so all this is in existing test code which is failing now tht series is not in the url but in metadata
[10:02] <dimitern> voidspace, frobware, jam, fwereade, standup?
[10:02] <urulama> test failing in juju or where?
[10:02] <wallyworld> test failing in juju
[10:02] <wallyworld> it is uploading charms to then test bundle deployment
[10:02] <wallyworld> we used to force a url to have the trusty series
[10:03] <wallyworld> but now the test allows the url series to be "" because the series is in charm metadata
[10:03] <wallyworld> if i use the url "trusty/wordpress" then subsequent repo.Resolve("wordpress") calls fail
[10:04] <wallyworld> but i should just be able to upload to "wordpress" and it should pick the series from the metadata
[10:04] <voidspace> dimitern: omw
[10:05] <wallyworld> but the code errors immediately because it inspects the id and sees series = ""
[10:05] <urulama> wallyworld: so, uploads are of form cs:wordpress-3 then
[10:05] <urulama> rogpeppe: ^ seems core expects the case of name-revision uploads, the one we don't allow anymore
[10:05] <wallyworld> the tests were written a while back, not by me so i am not sure of their heritage
[10:06] <rogpeppe> wallyworld, urulama: looking
[10:06] <wallyworld> ty
[10:06] <wallyworld> testcharms.UploadCharm(c, s.client, "trusty/wordpress-0", "wordpress") is how it used to be
[10:07] <wallyworld> testcharms.UploadCharm(c, s.client, "wordpress-0", "wordpress") is how i changed it
[10:07] <urulama> yes, this is not allowed, but might be a bug on our side
[10:07] <wallyworld> because the upload charm was modified to upload a charm with series in metadata
[10:07] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: which commit of charmstore are you using?
[10:07] <wallyworld> the latest
[10:07] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: 2ce00261132ea5e70753c67d4c39e3f8d6e5f6f0 ?
[10:08] <wallyworld> a3afbf1
[10:08] <wallyworld> from juju core deps.tsv
[10:08] <urulama> wallyworld: that's not the latest
[10:09] <wallyworld> i also tried pulling tip as well
[10:09] <urulama> wallyworld: but i don't think it matters in this case
[10:09] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: you shouldn't be uploading the charm with a revision number
[10:09] <wallyworld> ok, we can change core
[10:09] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: the revision number should be chosen by the charmstore itselg
[10:09] <wallyworld> but the rev number doesn't affect the series issue
[10:09] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: it does
[10:09] <wallyworld> the charmstore http handler for archive post seems to bail
[10:10] <wallyworld> when id has series = ""
[10:10] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: because we only check that there's a series if the request is a PUT
[10:10] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: not a POST
[10:10] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: PUT is done when there's a specified revision id
[10:10] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: POST otherwise
[10:11] <wallyworld> ok, so i change juju core's tests to leave off revision
[10:11] <wallyworld> let me do that
[10:11] <urulama> already mentioned this, so i think the tests are just wrong. the ones with revision should fail and the ones to be used are without revision
[10:11] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: the reason we still check for series in PUT is that PUT is really there just for the legacy ingestion
[10:12] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: ok, so i just made that revision param -1
[10:12] <wallyworld> we'll see if test works
[10:13] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: presumably it's a new test, otherwise it would have failed anyway, right?
[10:13] <rogpeppe> s/failed anyway/failed beforehand/
[10:14] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: i annotaed and tests were written in sept by francesco
[10:14] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: but using -1 as rev still didn't work
[10:14] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: hmm, but we didn't have multi-series charms back then
[10:14] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: which test is failing?
[10:14] <wallyworld> no but the tests used to force a series
[10:15] <wallyworld> ie UploadCharm("trusty/wordpress"...)
[10:15] <wallyworld> i'm removing the series
[10:15] <urulama> frankban: hey, seems that some tests for bundle are failing in juju now that we have multiseries ... can you check with wallyworld, please
[10:15] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: please tell me which test is failing so i can have a look at what's being tested
[10:15] <wallyworld> one sec
[10:15] <wallyworld> github.com/juju/juju/cmd/juju/commands/bundle_test.go:675
[10:16] <wallyworld> i'm modifying it because if i let it upload to "trusty/wordpress") then a call tp repo.Resolve("wordpress") fails
[10:16] <wallyworld> and i should no longer need to specify the series in the upload url anuway
[10:16] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: i haveto go get my wife, bbiab
[10:17] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: k
[10:18] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: so a real issue here is that in the core code to process a charm url at deploy time, we were adding in the "default-series" env config propety as the series if the url had an empty series
[10:18] <wallyworld> this should not be done
[10:19] <wallyworld> hence we now call repo.Resolve("wordpress") and not Resolve("trusty/wordpress")
[10:19] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: yup, there are definitely a bunch of changes need to be made in core
[10:19] <urulama> well, hm it should be done for legacy charms, right
[10:19] <wallyworld> unless the user does cs:trusty/wordpress of course
[10:19] <wallyworld> but this change in part as made these bundle tests fail
[10:20] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: so that test passes for me
[10:20] <wallyworld> yes because you don't have the above mods
[10:20] <wallyworld> comment out the code in resolveCharmStoreEntityURL()
[10:21] <wallyworld> which adds the default-series if no url serie sis set
[10:21] <wallyworld> urulama: for legacy charms, surely we can still use cs:legacycharm directly without a series
[10:21] <urulama> yes, indeed, it'll use default-series
[10:22] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: so the issue is: test uploads to "trusty/wordpress", then the bundle code tries to repo.Resolve("wordpress") and boom
[10:22] <wallyworld> it says no charm found
[10:22] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: hmm, "wordpress" *should* resolve correctly to "trusty/wordpress-0"
[10:22] <wallyworld> right
[10:22] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: investigating
[10:23] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: ok, ty, bbiab and i will ping you
[10:23] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: urulama: btw, i have juju fully functional with new charn store , just getting the tests to pass
[10:23] <urulama> cool!
[10:23] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: great!
[10:23] <wallyworld> all mltseries stuff works, incl overrides
[10:23] <wallyworld> ok, really bbiab now
[10:23] <urulama> see you later
[10:24] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: ah!
[10:24] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: i see the problem!
[10:24] <urulama> rogpeppe: what is it?
[10:24] <rogpeppe> urulama: it's that we don't allow wordpress-1 to resolve to trusty/wordpress-1 because that's a silly way to specify a charm
[10:25] <rogpeppe> urulama: because wordpress-1 looks like it's specifying a particular revision of a charm, but that makes no sense when it might resolve to trusty or precise or ...
[10:25] <urulama> right, name-revision is not allowed
[10:26] <rogpeppe> urulama: yeah, and that's what the test is doing
[10:26] <urulama> as written 20min ago :) "seems core expects the case of name-revision uploads, the one we don't allow anymore"
[10:26] <rogpeppe> urulama: trivially fixed (in that test case anyway)
[10:26] <urulama> ah, uploads ... i've meant resolution
[10:26] <urulama> cool!
[10:27] <rogpeppe> urulama: deleting two characters fixes it
[10:32] <dimitern> frobware, https://github.com/lxc/lxd says LXD needs 1.3 and there's a PPA I guess you could try on trusty
[10:38] <voidspace> frobware: so a fix for the intermittently failing payload/persistence bug has landed on master but isn't yet on maas-spaces
[10:38] <voidspace> frobware: could you rebase again please :-)
[10:40] <frobware> voidspace, in progress
[10:45] <frobware> voidspace, dimitern, dooferlad: rebased maas-spaces to de99d4c3da857e478c60a57c806b0d8645078aba
[10:46] <dimitern> frobware, great, I'll rebase mine and hopefully drop a commit or two fixing already resolved issues on master
[11:18] <dimitern> voidspace, frobware, dooferlad, nice! so in the rebased maas-spaces, I only see the provisioner test failing now
[11:20] <voidspace> dimitern: me too
[11:21] <voidspace> conflicts when I merge with my branch though :-/
[11:21] <voidspace> ah well, this is why we rebase
[11:22] <mgz> are you actually rebasing?
[11:23] <mgz> rather than merging in trunk?
[11:23] <mgz> so, the previously tested revs of your feature branch are all lost to the aether?
[11:23] <voidspace> mgz: no
[11:23] <voidspace> mgz: we're rebasing our feature branch
[11:23] <voidspace> mgz: and will then merge back onto trunk
[11:24] <voidspace> mgz: oh, hmmm... maybe
[11:24] <voidspace> mgz: but then the merge back onto trunk will itself be tested
[11:24] <mgz> I mean, it's a choice, old feature branch results are of limited worth if they're red
[11:25] <mgz> but it does screw with the "look it passed, it's ready to merge" process
[11:25] <voidspace> mgz: I think it's a worthwhile trade-off
[11:25] <voidspace> mgz: it still needs to pass to merge
[11:26] <dimitern> mgz, we intend, I think, to stop rebasing and use merging as we're preparing to get it blessed and merge it in master
[11:26] <mgz> that sounds perfectly sane.
[11:29] <mgz> ...don't you need someone with write access to the repo to push --force the feature branch after rebase?
[11:29] <dimitern> mgz, btw I saw the mail about the voting status of the run-unit-tests-race job
[11:29] <frobware> mgz, yes, that's what I'm doing.
[11:29] <dimitern> mgz, I did file a but a while ago that it won't ever pass if the timeout is not increased - had that happened?
[11:29] <mgz> okay, as long as that works.
[11:30] <mgz> dimitern: the stuff that was timing out has been skipped for now and bugs filed, so dave has some of that covered
[11:31] <dimitern> mgz, nevertheless, it still won't pass on a comparable machine with the same timeout as the race detector always slows things down
[11:32] <dimitern> mgz, I'll be happy to be proven wrong though, just sayin.. ;)
[11:32] <mgz> yeah, I know, I think some of the work will just need to be fixing some stuff like that in tests.
[11:34] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: saw backscroll, changing test to testcharms.UploadCharm(c, s.client, "trusty/wordpress", "wordpress") was not all that was needed. charmrepo csclient UploadCharmWithRevision() requires the charm id to have a revision so i had to set that to < -1
[11:34] <frobware> dimitern, I wonder why we would stop rebasing? We can continue to do that, leaving a final merge into master
[11:34] <wallyworld> > -1
[11:35] <wallyworld> that gets further along till next error, thanks for help, i think i can fix the rest
[11:36] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: you can still do UploadCharm(c, s.client, "trusty/wordpress-1", "wordpress")
[11:36] <mgz> frobware: mostly just adding rebased revs after a bless should really have a ci retest before a merge is proposed
[11:36] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: (as the test did before)
[11:36] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: that worked for me
[11:37] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: ah, oh, what which string do i remove the -3 from
[11:37] * rogpeppe goes back to check
[11:38] <wallyworld> ah i think i know
[11:38] <mgz> dimitern: thanks for responding on the 1.25.1 lxc address bug, I'll chase that up later today. didn't see anything relevent in the changes to .1 apart from the maas 1.9 pokings from you guys
[11:38] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: in the bundle
[11:38] <dimitern> frobware, AIUI because the CI jobs are configured to test specific revisions and changing them might not trigger a CI run << mgz can clarify
[11:38] <wallyworld> mysql:
[11:38] <wallyworld> charm: mysql-1
[11:38] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: you need to remove the -1 from "mysql-1"
[11:38] <wallyworld> great, wil try that, ty
[11:39] <frobware> dimitern, mgz: ok, gotcha. but presumably as and when the time comes we can force a retest
[11:39] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: because mysql-1 is ambiguous with respect to non-multi-series charms
[11:39] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: it's always been dodgy, but now we explicitly prohibit it
[11:39] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: refresh me, what can it be confused with?
[11:39] <mgz> frobware: yeah, the rebase process is just a bit more error prone, and means past tests are non-repeatable. new testing is always fine.
[11:39] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: so if you're specifying a revision number, you want an exact version of a charm
[11:40] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: but if you specify a revision number but no series, you're saying "i want this revision of any one of a number of possible series"
[11:40] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: but there's no link between revision numbers of different series
[11:40] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: so it doesn't really make sense to specify a charm like that
[11:40] <wallyworld> ah right yes
[11:41] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: but i now i still get cannot resolve URL \"cs:mysql\": charm or bundle not found")
[11:41] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: and in the new multi-series world, wordpress-1 *is* unambiguous
[11:41] <wallyworld> because the upload was done for trusty/mysql not mysql. i think i need to add some fake charm metadata to the test
[11:41] <wallyworld> i had that before but got rid of it
[11:41] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: this passes for me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501743/
[11:42] <wallyworld> the test now just uploads an empty archive
[11:42] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: "mysql" should resolve to "trusty/mysql-1"
[11:42] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: yes but your code does would explcitly force juju core to add "trusty" to the requested url
[11:42] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: no it wouldn't
[11:43] <wallyworld> really? i did in master
[11:43] <wallyworld> it
[11:43] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: that only applies when you specify a revision number too
[11:43] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: and when the charm is not multi-series
[11:43] <wallyworld> if ref.Series == "" {
[11:43] <wallyworld> if defaultSeries, ok := conf.DefaultSeries(); ok {
[11:43] <wallyworld> ref.Series = defaultSeries
[11:43] <wallyworld> }
[11:43] <wallyworld> }
[11:44] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: i thought you removed that code
[11:44] <wallyworld> yes, but if i add it back the test passes
[11:44] <wallyworld> if i take it out the test fails
[11:44] <wallyworld> so mysql is not resolving to trusty/mysql-1
[11:45] <wallyworld> because i think the test uploads an empty archive
[11:45] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: i got the test passing with that code removed
[11:45] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: that shouldn't matter, i think
[11:45] <wallyworld> hmmm, ok, i'll poke a few things
[11:45] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: one mo, i'll just check again
[11:48] * dimitern steps out for ~1h
[11:48] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: so i've pushed a branch called "wallyworld-test" to rogpeppe/juju
[11:48] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: yes, so i had to modify the test to upload real charm metadata and that got it passed that bit
[11:48] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: that test passes for me with the differences you can see
[11:48] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: i'm surprised that was necessary
[11:49] <wallyworld> yeah, but it worked, i''ll check your branch
[11:51] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: anyway, AFAICS testcharms.UploadCharm *is* uploading a real archive
[11:51] <wallyworld> Repo.CharmArchive(c.MkDir(), name)
[11:51] <wallyworld> it makes an empty dir
[11:52] <wallyworld> ah wait
[11:52] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: that makes an empty dir and then copies the charm archive into it
[11:52] <wallyworld> it copies
[11:52] <wallyworld> right
[12:01] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: damn, so my other other change that i can see might be of significance is that the charmrepo client asks for supported series in the Resolve() call. i still get the test failure but it all works live for real deployments. maybe if you get a chance you could look at this. ignore the unrelated crap, you'll see the change to resolveCharmStoreEntityURL() is essentially the same as yours. https://github.com/juju/juju/compare/
[12:01] <wallyworld> master...wallyworld:new-charm-store-multi?expand=1
[12:01] <wallyworld> i'll keep looking as well, no hurry
[12:01] <wallyworld> just if you get a moment
[12:02] <wallyworld> i still get
[12:02] <wallyworld> bundle_test.go:699:
[12:02] <wallyworld> c.Assert(err, jc.ErrorIsNil)
[12:02] <wallyworld> ... value *errors.Err = &errors.Err{message:"", cause:"not found", previous:(*errors.Err)(0xc820424550), file:"github.com/juju/juju/cmd/juju/commands/deploy.go", line:341} ("cannot deploy bundle: cannot resolve URL \"mysql\": cannot resolve URL \"cs:mysql\": charm or bundle not found")
[12:02] <wallyworld> i retian some old behaviour for local:
[12:28] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: looking
[12:28] <wallyworld> ty, maybe fresh eyes will solve it
[12:32] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: so your branch passes that test for me
[12:32] <wallyworld> etf
[12:32] <wallyworld> wtf
[12:32] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: (i needed to update charm to the export-unsupported-series-error branch)
[12:33] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: does your branch have a current dependencies.tsv file?
[12:33] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: my branch also pulls in https://github.com/juju/charmrepo/pull/55
[12:34] <wallyworld> yeas except for the above which is new
[12:35] <wallyworld> i haven't added that to dependencies.tsv yet
[12:35] <wallyworld> as it has not landed
[12:35] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: i checked that out, and the test still passes
[12:35] <wallyworld> shit
[12:36] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: could you paste me the result of running godeps -t in the commands directory?
[12:36] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13501930/
[12:37] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: hmm, looks like there are some charmrepo changes you haven't pushed
[12:37] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: yes, i hacked the store url to point to the beta store
[12:37] <wallyworld> that is the only change
[12:38] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: does your test still fail when you use the published version?
[12:38] <wallyworld> the official store url?
[12:40] <wallyworld> rogpeppe: oh, ffs. there was a change to charmrepo UploadCharmWithRevision I must have made earlier and didn't see. now the test psses
[12:40] <wallyworld> the only change in charmrepo NOW is the store url change
[12:40] <wallyworld> sorry
[12:40] <wallyworld> now i can finish some final unit tests and propose
[12:40] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: ok, np
[12:41] <wallyworld> i'll land after new store is live
[12:41] <wallyworld> thanks for help with the charm urls
[12:41] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: np
[12:41] <wallyworld> will be good to get this working :-)
[12:41] <rogpeppe> wallyworld: i'm glad we've got godeps :)
[12:44] <wallyworld> my changes to charm repo were not to push :-)
[12:44] <wallyworld> just to test the bew store
[12:44] <wallyworld> new
[14:35] <mup> Bug #1519848 opened: Add IPv6 tests for cases using net.JoinHostPort <juju-core:Triaged by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519848>
[14:38] <mup> Bug #1519848 changed: Add IPv6 tests for cases using net.JoinHostPort <juju-core:Triaged by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519848>
[14:41] <mup> Bug #1519848 opened: Add IPv6 tests for cases using net.JoinHostPort <juju-core:Triaged by cherylj> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519848>
[16:14] <voidspace> dooferlad: ping
[16:14] <mup> Bug #1519877 opened: 'juju help' Provider information is out of date <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519877>
[16:31] <dooferlad> voidspace: pong
[16:31] <voidspace> dooferlad: how do I set a reserved ip range with a purpose?
[16:32] <voidspace> dooferlad: I can't use the method from the tests because it uses private members to do it
[16:32] <voidspace> dooferlad: and I can't see it exposed at all on the public api
[16:32] <voidspace> I may just be missing something obvious
[16:33] <dooferlad> voidspace: AddFixedAddressRange and set the purpose in the passed AddressRange
[16:33] <voidspace> dooferlad: on Subnet?
[16:34] <dooferlad> yes
[16:34] <voidspace> dooferlad: but the Subnet returned from NewSubnet is a pointer to a copy
[16:34] <voidspace> dooferlad: so adding the range to it doesn't set the range on the server
[16:34] <voidspace> (it's not what the test does for this reason)
[16:35] <voidspace> I don't believe I can do that anyway
[16:35] <voidspace> let me try
[16:35] <voidspace> dooferlad: ah, and AddFixedAddressRange requires me to construct an AddressRange
[16:35] <dooferlad> I thought that NewSubnet returned a pointer to the created subnet, not a copy.
[16:36] <voidspace> dooferlad: and I can't set startUint or endUint as they're private
[16:36] <dooferlad> voidspace: Hmm, you really shouldn't need to do that. I think that I should auto-fill them for you.
[16:37] <voidspace> dooferlad: well, I'm calling subnet.AddFixedAddressRange - but I'm getting nul back from the reserved_ip_ranges call
[16:37] <voidspace> which should really be an empty array
[16:37] <voidspace> but it shouldn't really be empty - but it is
[16:37] <dooferlad> voidspace: OK, I need to fix that whole flow.
[16:38] <voidspace> dooferlad: cool, thanks
[16:38] <voidspace> you should have emails with all those points in them
[18:20] <voidspace> dooferlad: any progress?
[18:57] <cherylj> dimitern, frobware: Did you see the latest updates for bug 1519527?
[18:57] <mup> Bug #1519527: 1.25.1 proposed: lxc units all have the same IP address <openstack> <sts> <uosci> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519527>
[18:58] <dimitern> cherylj, yep, I'm in a call with mpontillo even as we speak
[18:58] <cherylj> thanks, dimitern!
[18:58] <dimitern> cherylj, seems more and more like a maas issue
[18:58] <cherylj> good to know :)
[21:00] <mup> Bug #1496237 changed: peergrouper tests very unstable with Go 1.5 <intermittent-failure> <tech-debt> <test-failure> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496237>
[21:06] <mup> Bug #1496237 opened: peergrouper tests very unstable with Go 1.5 <intermittent-failure> <tech-debt> <test-failure> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496237>
[21:18] <mup> Bug #1496237 changed: peergrouper tests very unstable with Go 1.5 <intermittent-failure> <tech-debt> <test-failure> <juju-core:Fix Released by axwalk> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496237>
[21:21] <mup> Bug # changed: 1382556, 1412621, 1452082, 1464633, 1478943, 1483879, 1494542, 1494868, 1496972, 1499426, 1511138, 1512399, 1513492, 1513982, 1517748, 1518128
[21:56] <thumper> axw: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3240/
[22:28] <wallyworld> thumper: i talked with andrew and the best we came up with is disallow in modern juju and require people to use an older client if they really want to do it
[22:28] <thumper> wallyworld: see http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3240/
[22:29] <wallyworld> ok, after release call
[22:38] <davecheney> morning, http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3232/
[22:38] <davecheney> is anyone able to review this
[22:58] <fwereade> davecheney, LGTM
[22:59] <davecheney> fwereade: thanks
[23:12] <sinzui> thumper: I think th issue is that status just hangs. Nothing is returned. After 300 seconds, the sript declares a failure. http://juju-ci.vapour.ws:8080/view/Juju%20Revisions/job/aws-upgrade-20-trusty-amd64/339/console is just about to start the upgade
[23:12] <sinzui> mark timer
[23:17] <sinzui> timer comlete
[23:18] <sinzui> yes, status was called 4 times. the first 3 returned quickly, the 4th call hung for 5 minutes
[23:27] <thumper> hmm
[23:28] <thumper> dog walk time
[23:33] <mup> Bug #1519994 opened: leader-elected hook never fires <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519994>
[23:33] <mup> Bug #1519995 opened: Upgrades from 1.20.11 to 1.25.2 fail because of status <blocker> <ci> <regression> <status> <upgrade-juju> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core 1.25:Triaged by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519995>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.200263
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"ashipika",
"cherylj",
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"dooferlad",
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"channel": "#juju-dev"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-uos-convergence
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[20:03] <Xarcell> Anyone here?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.203027
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"authors": [
"Xarcell"
],
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}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-ch
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[11:59] <marcus> WaVeR, do you think it's worth to start the reverification process?
[12:58] <marcus> please check and review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/ReVerificationApplication2015
[12:59] <marcus> i am not sure about the exact number of official members in our loco team
[17:11] <WaVeR> Hi marcus
[17:11] <WaVeR> Thanks for creating/updating the page
[17:12] <WaVeR> I'll have a look to the page and give you a feedback
[17:12] <WaVeR> can I contact you by email too ?
[20:57] <kingsley> Hi
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ubuntu-chat
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"authors": [
"WaVeR",
"kingsley",
"marcus"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ch"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-touch
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[06:28] <doodaa> need to get OTA-8 for Aquarius E5 that hasn't been updated since purchase. Where to download?
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <slvn_> hello, I am looking for someone to test a .click package on its ubuntu device with ota-8 !
[07:52] <slvn_> ... only need one test, before I can submit the app for validation
[08:29] <zzarr> good morning
[08:50] <doodaa> can android contacts be backed up on Debian without using Google Services?
[08:56] <mcphail> slvn_: If no-one helps in the meantime, I can test after work
[08:58] <slvn_> mcphail, Hi ! thanks ... I admit, I would prefer if someone could give a try right now ...
[08:58] <slvn_> there should be no bug ..
[08:58] <slvn_> just want to make sure before starting to do re-submit on the app store
[09:00] <slvn_> btw, Is there a way to tell that the application need at least OTA-8 ? (could it be in MANIFEST.json > Framework field ?)
[09:00] <mcphail> no - no way to tell. I can't download just now as I am on a 2G connection :(
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-devs-might-release-an-ota-8-5-hotfix-update-for-ubuntu-phones-496671.shtml
[10:38] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Shopping Reminder Day! 😃
[13:35] <slvn_> Hello,
[13:36] <slvn_> I have an ubuntu device app, but no more device to test it
[13:36] <slvn_> can someone try my app on his device?
[13:36] <slvn_> thanks
[14:36] <mardy> jdstrand_: FYI, bug 1519846
[14:40] <mcphail> slvn_: does your new build do "proper" fulsscreen now?
[14:41] <slvn_> mcphail, yes, but it's only a work-around of hardcoding the pixel format to rgb 565
[14:41] <mcphail> slvn_: sounds like a safe-enough workaround to me :)
[15:33] <genii> I've been working on getting Ubuntu onto some OMAP4470 based tablets here, Texas Instruments recommends using rootstock to create the filesystem, but I can't seem to find it anyplace ( according to them it's provided by qemu but I have qemu installed) and searching at packages.ubuntu.com produces no result. Was it superceded by some other method?
[15:38] * genii makes another pot of coffee and keeps searching
[16:26] <Niju> Considering taking the plunge and buying an ubuntu touch, been using Sailfish which I love but the future isn't looking to good just now
[16:26] <Niju> MX4 seem out of stock everywhere, how well does it run on the bq e5?
[16:27] <mcphail> Niju: it doesn't need a high-spec phone. There are a couple of ongoing bugs (presently being squashed) which affect performance on all devices just now, but hopefully fixed soon
[16:31] <mac___> Hi guys. Do you have a dedicated thread for ubuntu-touch to android porters in xda-developers forum?
[16:33] <mac___> Also if anyone know of app-amor patches for kernel 3.0.xx could you point it out for me.... I have solved all installation issue now I am getting stuck something about app-amor. see here http://pastebin.com/1dnwfqRu
[16:39] <Niju> mcphail, That's sounding good, as I'm not a fan of huge screens so the 4.5/5 might be worth looking at
[17:03] <nothingspecial> Hi, I was using the web browser and got a java pop up that tells me I won something "Click OK to claim your prise". I can't get past this in the web browser even after restarting. Anyone know which file I have to delete to get rid of it? Thanks
[17:07] <mcphail> Niju: just view it as a "work in progress", rather than a polished product.
[17:22] <brendand> tedg, hey
[17:23] <tedg> brendand: howdy
[17:27] <brendand> tedg, this is way back in time, but did you work on some app startup tests ?
[17:28] <tedg> brendand: well I kicked it off, but nuclearbob really made into something bigger
[17:28] <brendand> tedg, well if you know where the code is, that's good enough for me :)
[17:29] <tedg> brendand: on the device or the test harness stuff?
[17:29] <brendand> tedg, test harness
[17:31] <tedg> Hmm, that's the one I remember the least, let me see if I can find it.
[17:33] <tedg> brendand: https://code.launchpad.net/~nuclearbob/ubuntu-test-cases/touch-trace-export
[17:34] <nuclearbob> tedg: that's a very old branch
[17:34] <tedg> nuclearbob: Ah, that's the last one I played with.
[17:34] <nuclearbob> tedg: I think we eventually landed it, but I can't remember now. That might still be the latest one
[17:35] <tedg> Makes sense, not sure what brendand was looking for there, so if you can help him navigate it that'd be great.
[17:35] <nuclearbob> yeah
[17:35] <brendand> nuclearbob, i only just found out you worked on that, otherwise would have asked you straight away
[17:36] <nuclearbob> brendand: no problem!
[19:48] <Isotop7> is devel still based on wily or already on xenial?
[19:49] <dobey> devel-proposed is xenial yes
[19:49] <Isotop7> k thanks...looked on the installation wiki page but info regarding the channels there seems outdated!
[20:04] <vendorrh> I am unable to go in bootloader
[20:05] <k1l> vendorrh: on what device?
[20:05] <vendorrh> adb reboot bootloader -> is only restarting
[20:06] <vendorrh> on Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5(SM-T805)
[20:10] <vendorrh> I searched on google..bat found only rummer's..bootloader mode may be disabled on new devices
[20:11] <k1l> dont know, sorry.
[21:07] <jim__> Hi guys.. I have problems flashing my new meizu mx4. How can I flash the OTA-8?
[21:08] <jim__> If I do it the official way i'll get the error "Failed to enter Recovery"
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.220774
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"JamesTait",
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"mcphail",
"nothingspecial",
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"vendorrh",
"zzarr"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-touch"
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-mir
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[14:36] <slvn_> Hello !
[14:36] <slvn_> a mir question ...
[14:37] <slvn_> what is the first OTA-# version that has ""libmirclient.so.9" ?
[14:59] <anpok_> afaik libmirclient.9 was in mir 0.14.. but cannot remember which OTA number that would relate to
[15:01] <slvn_> I explain ... I use SDL2 lib, which will pick this share library, and would like to make sure that it exists ...
[15:04] <alan_g> anpok_: correct. But I don't remember either.
[15:04] <alan_g> alf_: are you not merging lp:~afrantzis/mir/android-gralloc-can-be-safely-closed-quirk for a reason? As an added test?
[15:09] <alf_> alan_g: Yes, I wanted it to use the normal process to merge (should be done any moment now)
[15:10] <alan_g> alf_: OK, I was just about to push an MP and thought it would be nice if it had a chance to pass.
[15:14] <alf_> alan_g: Hmm, it seems the wily jobs for autolanding are delaying the landing, should be doon in the next half-hour I suppose. If you can wait a bit more...
[15:16] <alan_g> alf_: yeah, I'll wait. Most of my existing MPs are lacking reviewers anyway.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.224025
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"alan_g",
"alf_",
"anpok_",
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