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[00:02] <lmgs> cristian_c, funziona ma mi sembra, onestamente, una soluzione un po' pasticciata
[00:02] <cristian_c> lmgs: spiegati
[00:03] <lmgs> cristian_c, in pratica ora ho 2 menu a tendina al per farne funzionare uno
[00:03] <cristian_c> ?
[00:03] <cristian_c> lmgs: io quello 'con la busta da lettera' lo cnsidero un menù per le notifiche
[00:04] <cristian_c> non una tray per le applicazioni in esecuzioje
[00:04] <cristian_c> esecuzione/minimizzate
[00:04] <lmgs> cristian_c, è menu per le notifiche per xchat, perché per pidgin e thunderbird è anche un tray
[00:05] <cristian_c> lmgs: un menù per le notifiche
[00:05] <cristian_c> è quello il senso della sua esistenza
[00:05] <cristian_c> altrimenti non avrebbe quell'icona e non raggrupperebbe un 'certo tipo' di applicazioni
[00:06] <cristian_c> appunto, applicazioni di messaggistica
[00:06] <lmgs> cristian_c, volendo ripristinare tutto come faccio?
[00:06] <cristian_c> lmgs: tutto in che senso?
[00:06] <cristian_c> lmgs: rimuovere la tray?
[00:07] <lmgs> cristian_c, mi riferisco all'ultimo pacchetto che abbiamo installato
[00:07] <cristian_c> lmgs: lo disinstalli
[00:07] <cristian_c> lmgs: anzi, prima fai una cosa
[00:08] <cristian_c> lmgs: apri le preferenze di xchat, togli la spunta dall'opzione relativa alla tray
[00:08] <cristian_c> riavvii la sessione, lanci xchat e vedi da quale dei due men
[00:08] <cristian_c> da quale dei due menù viene rimosso
[00:10] <lmgs> cristian_c, senza riavviare la sessione è sparito dal nuovo menu
[00:10] <lmgs> riavvio la sessio comunque?
[00:10] <lmgs> sessione*
[00:10] <cristian_c> lmgs: allora, è ufficiale
[00:10] <cristian_c> lmgs: xchat nel menù messaggistica non è riferito alla tray
[00:11] <lmgs> cristian_c, ok posso almeno avere l'icona tray visibile nel pannello e non nascosta dentro il nuovo menu a tendina?
[00:11] <cristian_c> quindi quel menù è ininfluente ai fini dell'utilizzo che ne vorresti fare tu
[00:12] <cristian_c> lmgs: intendi il nuovo menù installato?
[00:12] <lmgs> sì
[00:12] <cristian_c> lmgs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/612912/how-to-re-enable-the-systray-indicator-panel-after-latest-updates
[00:13] <lmgs> perfetto grazie
[00:13] <cristian_c> Also there is a display mode "separately from the indicator" - on top of the panel like a dock. In this mode, the position can be changed by scrolling the mouse over the indicator. To change the mode position: press the middle mouse button on the indicator.
[00:13] <cristian_c> lmgs: ehhh, spetta, leggi bene
[00:13] <cristian_c> cosa ho riportato
[00:13] <cristian_c> lmgs: separately from the indicator
[00:14] <lmgs> ora me lo studio, grazie :)
[00:14] <cristian_c> lmgs: non so se è quello che avevi chiesto (vedere anche le schermate)
[00:15] <lmgs> sì più o meno, forse si tratta di abitudine
[00:15] <lmgs> grazie ancora :)
[00:15] <cristian_c> ok, prova con il middle clic
[09:25] <johnny91> ciao vorrei mettere il file d' installazione di ubuntu a 64 bit in una chiavetta , va bene una da 2 gb?
[09:25] <Carlin0> johnny91, si
[09:25] <Carlin0> !usbwin
[09:25] <ubot-it> Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[09:26] <johnny91> Carlin0: ok grazie
[09:39] <maurizio1> il mio pc non ha più il sistema operativo posso scaricarci ubuntu avviabile su dvd?
[09:40] <Carlin0> maurizio1, puoi installare ubuntu
[10:06] <calamaro> salve, problema audio... in uscita va benissimo, in entrata la rec funziona un solo canale...
[10:15] <cristian_c> calamaro: se non sbaglio, ci siamo già sentiti
[10:15] <cristian_c> calamaro: intendi la asus?
[10:49] <calamaro> cristian_c sì, alla fine ho montato la asus xonar... solo che mi fa questo scherzetto stereo
[10:51] <cristian_c> calamaro: controlla alsamixer
[10:51] <calamaro> cristian_c ho provato anche ad assegnare la scheda audio integrata, beh, fa lo stesso scherzetto... quindi a rigor di logica il problema non è la scheda audio
[10:51] <cristian_c> calamaro: ma la xonar ha problemi su altri sistemi?
[10:51] <cristian_c> calamaro: ok
[10:51] <cristian_c> calamaro: e in live, invece?
[10:51] <calamaro> cristian_c ho provato anche con più programmi... quindi non è nemmeno il programma
[10:52] <calamaro> per provare in live come faccio?
[11:22] <cristian_c> calamaro: come hai installato ubuntu?
[11:32] <calamaro> ho portato il computer dal tecnico per un problema e ha formattato e reinstallato lui
[11:39] <Andrea> Buongiorno , sono Andrea .
[11:39] <cristian_c> calamaro: procurati il file .iso
[11:40] <cristian_c> !ciao | AndreaGugole93
[11:40] <ubot-it> AndreaGugole93: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[11:41] <AndreaGugole93> Buongiorno sono Andrea , ho installato Lubuntu 15.10 in un netbook asus da USB cancellando completamente Windows 7 . Il computer si è riavviato , ma ora resta con una schermata nera e un trattino bianco lampeggiante . Una soluzione? La ringrazio .
[11:42] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: windows 7 è ancora supportato dmicrosoft
[11:42] <cristian_c> da microsoft
[11:43] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: allora, cerca di spiegare come hai preparato il supporto usb
[11:43] <cristian_c> e come hai installato
[11:45] <AndreaGugole93> Ho scaricato il file immagine di Lubuntu 15.10 , creato il file di installazione in una USB con Unetbootin . Ho riavviato il computer facendo fare il boot dall'USB e ho iniziato l'installazione .
[11:45] <cristian_c> !usbwin | AndreaGugole93
[11:45] <ubot-it> AndreaGugole93: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[11:45] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: utilizzando quale os?
[11:45] <AndreaGugole93> Utilizzando Windows 7.
[11:46] <AndreaGugole93> L'instllazione di Lubuntu è andata a buon fine , e il computer si è riavviato .
[11:46] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: utilizza universal usb installer per creare il supporto usb
[11:46] <AndreaGugole93> Da questo momento non riesco più ad avviare il netbook.
[11:46] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: ma hai fatto il controllo dell'hash del file .iso?
[11:46] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: ma in live si avvia?
[11:48] <AndreaGugole93> non ho provato ad avviarla in live , sono andato ad installarla direttamente.
[11:49] <AndreaGugole93> Sono un principiante di Linux , ho creato soltanto il file di installazione su USB e ho avviato l'installazione .
[11:52] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: fai una prova in live
[11:53] <cristian_c> e vedi che succede
[11:53] <AndreaGugole93> Si ma non riesco ad avviare il netbook
[11:53] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: in che senso?
[11:54] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: non riesci ad impostare usb dal bios?
[11:55] <AndreaGugole93> Il bios non mi riconosceva l'USB , quindi sono passato attraverso polp boot manager .
[11:56] <AndreaGugole93> In questo momento sto scrivendo da un PC fisso , perchè il netbook una volta acceso mi permette solo di accedere al bios .
[12:00] <AndreaGugole93> Io accendo il netbook in cui precedentemente ho installato lubuntu e resta bloccato in una schermata nera .
[12:02] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: mi sembra strano
[12:03] <AndreaGugole93> Appunto , e in questo momento non posso più avviare nulla in quel netbook .
[12:03] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: che un pc senza masterizzatore dvd, non permetta di avviare da usb
[12:03] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: e quindi come hai installato?
[12:03] <cristian_c> se il pc non supporta il boot da usb
[12:04] <AndreaGugole93> Quindi il boot da usb gliel'ho fatto fare attraverso plop boot manager che è un tool di windows che permette il boot da usb.
[12:05] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: e non puoi fare lo stesso ora?
[12:05] <cristian_c> avviando la live
[12:06] <AndreaGugole93> Non posso più fare nulla in quanto accendo il netbook , può solo caricare la pagina del BIOS altrimenti resta nero .
[12:09] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: perché non puoi usare plop?
[12:09] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: non è che hai un problema hardware al netbook?
[12:11] <AndreaGugole93> il netbook prima dell'installazione funzionava . Ora plo non posso più utilizzarlo in quanto è stato rimosso insieme a Windows 7 durante l'installazione di Lubuntu
[12:13] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: fai una cosa, procurati un masterizzatore esterno
[12:13] <cristian_c> per il boot da cd
[12:14] <ExPBoy> eh è sbagliato rimuovere windows
[12:14] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: ma ripeto, strano che un netbook senza masterizzatore non supporto il boot da usb
[12:14] <cristian_c> ExPBoy: windows 7, tra l'altro
[12:14] <ExPBoy> già
[12:14] <cristian_c> AndreaGugole93: i netbook hanno il boot da usb appositamente
[12:14] <ExPBoy> AndreaGugole93, che netbook è?
[12:14] <cristian_c> altrimenti come ci installano windows sopra?
[12:15] <cristian_c> con la telecinesi?
[12:15] <ExPBoy> carta carbone
[12:15] <ExPBoy> AndreaGugole93, potresti gentilmente dirci marca e modello del net in questione?
[12:19] <AndreaGugole93> Netbook Asus EeePC 1201HA
[12:25] <ExPBoy> AndreaGugole93, dalle speciche che leggo sul sito asus il bios supporta il boot da usb
[12:25] <ExPBoy> AndreaGugole93, prova a controllare meglio il bios
[12:29] <cristian_c> ExPBoy: ehhh
[12:30] <ExPBoy> AndreaGugole93, magari facci sapere :)
[12:38] <AndreaGugole93> Riprovo e vi faccio sapere ! Grazie mille !
[13:38] <calamaro> problema audio, in uscita tutto ok, in ingresso riceve un solo canale l'altro è muto... provato con 3 schede audio diverse fanno tutte la stessa cosa, provato con programmi per registrare diversi, fanno la stessa cosa, cambiato cavo stereo, fa la stessa cosa, da cosa può dipendere?
[13:40] <gigirock> calamaro, terminale alsamixer
[13:41] <calamaro> gigirock, poi?
[13:42] <gigirock> hai tutto il mixer e quarda se nei canali in ingresso sono selezionati tutti e due
[13:42] <calamaro> i canali di ingresso su alsamixer sono unici, non c'è left e right...
[13:45] <gigirock> ...guarda sotto c'e' scritto mono stereo
[13:47] <gigirock> con <> selezioni i canali....
[13:47] <calamaro> gigirock, la barra su alsamixer in questione è nominata "cattura", ci sono una "s" e una "d" al di sotto di essa, se alzo o abbasso questa barra li alza e li abbassa contemporaneamente
[13:49] <gigirock> ok adesso hai qualcosa da monitorare come line in ?
[13:49] <calamaro> no, ho fatto tutte le prove possibili, credimi... abbiamo anche riformattato il sistema due volte...
[13:50] <gigirock> calamaro, ha mai funzionato quel canale ?
[13:50] <calamaro> sì, avoja
[13:57] <calamaro> Problema audio, in uscita tutto ok, in ingresso riceve un solo canale l'altro è muto... provato con 3 schede audio diverse fanno tutte la stessa cosa, provato con programmi per registrare diversi, fanno la stessa cosa, cambiato cavo stereo, fa la stessa cosa, da cosa può dipendere?
[13:58] <jester-> calamaro: ubuntu quale?
[13:58] <calamaro> 14.04
[13:58] <jester-> si ma quale
[13:58] <calamaro> lts
[13:58] <jester-> ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu
[13:58] <calamaro> ubuntu
[13:59] <jester-> calamaro: portatile o pc desktop
[13:59] <calamaro> pc desktop assemblato
[13:59] <jester-> la scheda audio integrata nella piastra?
[14:00] <calamaro> allora, sì, il problema lo fa sia quella integrata sia un' altra inserita nella piatstra
[14:01] <jester-> calamaro: installa pulseaudio e vedi si ti sistemare
[14:01] <calamaro> sudo apt-get install pulseaudio ?
[14:02] <jester-> calamaro: yesss forse pulse-audio
[14:02] <calamaro> ok provo
[14:03] <calamaro> jester- niente da fare
[14:03] <jester-> calamaro: prova la live della 15.10
[14:04] <jester-> usa un kernel di un po di vesrsioni superiore
[14:04] <calamaro> non possiamo fare altro per ora?
[14:05] <jester-> calamaro: non sono ferrato in materia audio, secondo me è il driver de kernel che non quaglia bene con la tua piastra, specialmente se è nuova
[14:06] <jester-> calamaro: tieni docchio quando arriva cristian_c
[14:06] <calamaro> jester- ok grazie per ora
[14:06] <jester-> calamaro: provando da live conferma o risolve il problema
[14:07] <calamaro> jester- non sono riuscito a provare, non ho avuto tempo di rifare una live, ce l'avevo su usb... dovrei rifarla
[14:08] <jester-> vedi te, ma se non provi non risolvi
[14:08] <calamaro> vero...
[14:08] <calamaro> proviamo
[14:36] <alessio_a> Buongiorno a tutti. non riesco a installare Ubuntu Mate sul mio HP pavilion g6, qualcuno riesce ad aiutarmi?
[14:37] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | alessio_a
[14:37] <ubot-it> alessio_a: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[14:38] <cristian_c> !dettagli | alessio_a
[14:38] <ubot-it> alessio_a: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[14:38] <alessio_a> Non mi fa l'installazione in dual boot, come opzione mi compare solo di cancellare completamente il disco
[14:40] <cristian_c> alessio_a: ah, forse ricordo
[14:41] <cristian_c> alessio_a: avevi già postato la schermata di gparted, giusto?
[14:41] <alessio_a> Sì
[14:41] <cristian_c> alessio_a: e poi non hai più risposto
[14:41] <cristian_c> e infine te ne sei andato
[14:42] <alessio_a> sì, perché il pc ha deciso di spegnersi e allora ho aspettato un altro momento
[14:43] <cristian_c> alessio_a: ti stavo dicendo
[14:43] <cristian_c> alessio_a: che hai quattro partizioni ntfs
[14:44] <cristian_c> alessio_a: windows 10 da windows 7, giusto?
[14:44] <alessio_a> esatto
[14:44] <cristian_c> alessio_a: siccome hai una tabella msdos, non si possono fare più di quattro partizioni primarie
[14:44] <cristian_c> hai superato il limite consentito
[14:44] <cristian_c> ecco perché manca l'opzione nell'installer
[14:45] <alessio_a> ah okay, solo che queste partizioni erano già fatte in automatico
[14:45] <cristian_c> beh...
[14:45] <cristian_c> alessio_a: entra in winz e controlla a cosa esattamente queste partizioni si riferiscono
[14:46] <cristian_c> alessio_a: perché essenzialmente, ne va rimossa almeno una
[14:46] <cristian_c> per far spazio a ubuntu mate
[14:46] <alessio_a> una è la classica partizione che contiene i programmi, un'altra è la partizione con i dati e i file, la terza è quella con i file di ripristino del sistema e la quarta non ne ho idea
[14:47] <cristian_c> alessio_a: in gestione disco dovrebbe dirti cos'è la quarta
[14:47] <alessio_a> sempre su win?
[14:48] <cristian_c> alessio_a: sì
[14:48] <cristian_c> visto che sono partizioni di winz, dici
[14:48] <alessio_a> okay allora vado a controllare perché ora sono in live, grazie
[14:51] <Opossum89> Ciao, sto provando a installare Ubuntu seguendo i passaggi spiegati sul sito ma non riesco a entrare nella modalità di prova "try ubuntu without installing it"... O meglio, dà degli errori, poi appare la scritta Ubuntu per un po' e dopo si riavvia il computer su Windows
[14:52] <Carlin0> Opossum89, hai fatto un dvd o una chiavetta usb ?
[14:52] <Opossum89> Sì
[14:53] <Carlin0> si cosa ?
[14:53] <Opossum89> scusa, una chiavetta
[14:53] <Carlin0> come l'hai fatta Opossum89 ?
[14:55] <Opossum89> Usando unebootin
[14:57] <Carlin0> allora Opossum89 2 cose : 1° controlla il md5sum della iso , 2° usa il programma che ora ti indico
[14:57] <Carlin0> !md5 | Opossum89
[14:57] <ubot-it> Opossum89: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[14:57] <Carlin0> |winusb | Opossum89
[14:57] <Carlin0> ops
[14:57] <Carlin0> !winusb | Opossum89
[14:57] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'winusb'
[14:58] <Carlin0> !usbwin | Opossum89
[14:58] <ubot-it> Opossum89: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[15:01] <Opossum89> Sto facendo
[15:02] <Carlin0> Opossum89, ma su che pc stai installando ? che cpu ha e quanta ram ?
[15:02] <Opossum89> È un asus n551jw con windows 8.1 ram 8GB
[15:03] <Lu2015> Buon pomeriggio. Ho installato ubuntu seguendo le regole. Ho messo il flag per installare i software aggiuntivi, ma non mi ha installato Java. Come posso faree
[15:04] <jester-> Lu2015: usare il ppa di oracle
[15:04] <jester-> le open non è siano gran che
[15:05] <Lu2015> Scusami, ma non sono molto pratico
[15:05] <jester-> Lu2015: apri un terminale
[15:07] <Lu2015> fatto
[15:07] <jester-> Lu2015: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[15:08] <giuseppe45> Ciao
[15:08] <Lu2015> La tastiera non mi scrive sul terminale...
[15:08] <giuseppe45> Non mi fa istallare i drive proprietari
[15:09] <jester-> Lu2015: usa copia incolla da qui al terminale
[15:09] <cristian_c> giuseppe45: chi non te li fa installare?
[15:09] <giuseppe45> Ubuntu
[15:09] <jester-> e quali driver
[15:09] <giuseppe45> Vado su impostazioni
[15:09] <Lu2015> fatto, ma devo inserire la password
[15:09] <Carlin0> che errore da giuseppe45 ?
[15:09] <jester-> giuseppe45: i driver di cosa
[15:09] <giuseppe45> Non da errore
[15:09] <Opossum89> Carlin0: la chiavetta è pronta
[15:09] <giuseppe45> Non porta avanti il caricamento
[15:09] <giuseppe45> Si ferma tipo a 1/3 del percorso
[15:09] <jester-> giuseppe45: e tre quali driver
[15:10] <giuseppe45> Il drive per attivare il wifi
[15:10] <giuseppe45> E anche quello per attivare l'nvidia
[15:10] <cristian_c> giuseppe45: broadcom?
[15:10] <jester-> giuseppe45: da driver aggiuntivi? e sei collegato col cavo?
[15:10] <giuseppe45> Si
[15:10] <giuseppe45> Si a tutti e due
[15:11] <jester-> giuseppe45: se la connessione è buona di solito va a buon fine abilitando in driver aggiuntivi
[15:11] <giuseppe45> Infatti
[15:11] <giuseppe45> Mi ricordo che nella 12.04 ci è stato 1 secondo ad attivare quello del wifi
[15:11] <jester-> dovresti abilitare uno per volta
[15:11] <giuseppe45> Ora l'ho lasciato tutta la notte
[15:12] <giuseppe45> Ed e rimasto fermo
[15:12] <giuseppe45> Cioe?
[15:12] <jester-> giuseppe45: cambia il server apr
[15:12] <jester-> apt
[15:12] <Opossum89> Carlin0: funziona, grazie
[15:12] <jester-> giuseppe45: abilitare la wifi e poi una volta finito i nviia
[15:13] <jester-> giuseppe45: ma cambia il server
[15:13] <giuseppe45> Cos'è il server app?
[15:13] <giuseppe45> E come lo cambio?
[15:13] <jester-> le fonti software
[15:13] <Carlin0> Opossum89, bene :o)
[15:13] <jester-> software
[15:13] <giuseppe45> Come le cambio?
[15:14] <krabador> giuseppe45, da terminale, software-properties-gtk , nella prima tab a sinistra, menu a tendina "scarica da"
[15:14] <jester-> giuseppe45: che ubuntu usi
[15:14] <giuseppe45> 15.10
[15:14] <jester-> si ma quale sorella
[15:14] <giuseppe45> Sorella?
[15:14] <jester-> la rossa la mora la sciancata
[15:15] <giuseppe45> Ma mi stai prendendo in giro o cosa?
[15:15] <jester-> giuseppe45: ubuntu kubuntu sticassubuntu
[15:15] <krabador> giuseppe45, se ubuntu o derivata
[15:15] <giuseppe45> Ubuntu
[15:15] <giuseppe45> Ubuntu 15.10
[15:15] <jester-> giuseppe45: allora segui krabador
[15:15] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:16] <jester-> scarica da-->italia-->un server
[15:18] <giuseppe45> Ora come ora c'è messo scaricare da server in italia
[15:18] <giuseppe45> Metto da server principale?
[15:18] <jester-> no laltro e italia, srotoli e scegli un server
[15:19] <giuseppe45> Io ho
[15:19] <giuseppe45> Server principale
[15:19] <giuseppe45> Server italia
[15:19] <giuseppe45> E altro...
[15:19] <krabador> giuseppe45, ce la fai a cliccare su altro?
[15:19] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:19] <giuseppe45> Se non me lo dite
[15:20] <jester-> coraggio
[15:20] <krabador> giuseppe45, cristian_c ultimamente fa gli sconti ,per mandare questi comandi a domicilio
Ok
[15:20] <jester-> [16:16:25] <jester-> scarica da-->italia-->un server
[15:20] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:20] <giuseppe45> Ora quale devo scegliere
[15:20] <giuseppe45> Ce ne sono 6
[15:20] <krabador> prendi quello con garr
[15:20] <krabador> in mezzo
[15:21] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:21] <giuseppe45> Ubuntu.mitror.garr.it giusto?
[15:21] <giuseppe45> Mirror*
[15:21] <krabador> si , poi chiudi
[15:21] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:22] <giuseppe45> Ora riavvio
[15:22] <giuseppe45> O provo direttamente?
[15:23] <Carlin0> senza riavviare giuseppe45
[15:23] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:23] <cristian_c> giuseppe45: quando cambi il server, dovrebbero ricaricarsi i repo
[15:23] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:23] <krabador> giuseppe45, non devi riavviare, ma chiudere la finestra
[15:23] <giuseppe45> Grazie mille
[15:23] <krabador> alla chiusura ti chiede di ricaricare i server
[15:23] <krabador> giuseppe45, aspetta, non è ancora finita
[15:23] <giuseppe45> Ah ok
[15:23] <krabador> giuseppe45, ha ricaricato i server?
[15:24] <giuseppe45> Si
[15:24] <krabador> giuseppe45, da terminale adesso
[15:24] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:24] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:24] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[15:24] <krabador> lspci -nn -d 14e4: | pastebinit
[15:25] <giuseppe45> Ok ora?
[15:26] <giuseppe45> Ho finito?
[15:26] <jester-> ora incolla qui la url che ha generato
[15:27] <giuseppe45> Ok
[15:29] <cristian_c> uhm, niente link
[15:33] <Lu2015> Devo fare altro per installare Java?
[15:33] <jester-> Lu2015: certo a capire a che punto sei
[15:33] <Lu2015> ho copiato la tua istruzione e ho dato invio
[15:34] <jester-> Lu2015: quale te ne avevo date 2
[15:34] <Lu2015> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[15:35] <Lu2015> solo questa
[15:35] <jester-> Lu2015: adesso sudo apt-get update
[15:35] <Lu2015> forse una me la sono persa nella chat ma non mi sembra
[15:35] <jester-> Lu2015: segui il labiale
[15:35] <jester-> Lu2015: adesso sudo apt-get update
[15:36] <Lu2015> fatto
[15:36] <jester-> Lu2015: sudo apt-get install oracle-java9-installer
[15:38] <Lu2015> Mi dice che alcuni pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte
[15:38] <Lu2015> riavvio Firefox?
[15:38] <Lu2015> O riavvio il computer?
[15:38] <jester-> Lu2015: che centra firefox?
[15:39] <jester-> Lu2015: i comando sono da dare nel terminale
[15:39] <Lu2015> ok ho fatto, solo che devo vedere dei grafici da un sito
[15:39] <Lu2015> per questo Firefox
[15:40] <Lu2015> Tutti i comandi li ho dati sul terminale
[15:40] <Carlin0> Lu2015, ma sei sicuro che ti mancasse java per vederli ?
[15:40] <jester-> centra na sega firefox
[15:40] <jester-> Lu2015: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:40] <krabador> Lu2015, hai chiesto giorni fa, per java, e ti ho fatto installare openjdk ed icedtea, l'hai fatto?
[15:41] <Lu2015> Allora. Sì l'ho fatto, ma facevo partire ubuntu da usb. ora è installato sul computer. fuonzionava bene con la chiavetta
[15:41] <jester-> Lu2015: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit
[15:42] <krabador> Lu2015, allora ti bastava soltanto rifare la stessa cosa
[15:42] <Lu2015> ma non avevo più le istruzioni che mi avevi gentilmente dato
[15:42] <krabador> che potevi consultare , andando a vedere il log della conversazione
[15:42] <krabador> !log | Lu2015
[15:42] <ubot-it> Lu2015: Log del canale: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[15:43] <Lu2015> che faccio, riprendo quelle istruzioni?
[15:43] <krabador> hai installato 15.10 ?
[15:44] <Lu2015> 14.04
[15:46] <Lu2015> Ho combinato troppi guai
[15:46] <krabador> Lu2015, sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre icedtea-7-plugin
[15:46] <krabador> Lu2015, hai fatto tutte le prove in live , per poi martellare l'installazione reale?
[15:48] <Carlin0> è scappato :P
[15:48] <jester-> mah
[15:48] <krabador> già, metti che funzionava...
[15:49] <Carlin0> ma openjdk non dovrebbe esserci di default ?
[15:51] <krabador> no
[16:20] <Kekko22> Ragazzi avrei bisogno di una mano per l'installazione di Ubuntu Touch sul mio Archos 50 Neon, potete aiutarmi?
[16:21] <Carlin0> Kekko22, non credo che qui si occupino anche di smarthoni
[16:22] <Kekko22> E dove potrei chiedere?
[16:23] <cristian_c> Kekko22: informati, sul sito di ubuntu c'è una sezione apposita
[16:23] <cristian_c> Kekko22: ma sappi che solo un numero limitatissimo (si contano sulle dita di una mano) di terminali sono supportati
[16:24] <cristian_c> Kekko22: il resto sono progetti indipendenti ormai più o meno abbandonati
[16:24] <manet> salve: mi consigliate ubuntu 15 al posto del 14? ho dovuto reinstallare il 14 per un mancato aggiornamento dopo il quale il pc a malapena si accendeva.
[16:24] <Carlin0> manet, su che pc hai installato ?
[16:25] <Carlin0> manet, cpu , ram e scheda video ...
[16:26] <manet> dove trovo queste info su ubuntu 14? cmq un vaio con windows 7 di almeno 2\3 anni
[16:27] <Carlin0> manet, sei su ubuntu ora ?
[16:27] <krabador> Kekko22, i porting esistenti sono vecchi, basati su un'altra code base, che ormai ha 2 anni
[16:27] <manet> si
[16:28] <krabador> manet, la versione , in ubuntu , ha 4 numeri, e fidati , fanno la differenza
[16:28] <Carlin0> manet, sudo apt install pastebinit
[16:29] <Carlin0> manet, cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit
[16:29] <Carlin0> manet, free | pastebinit
[16:30] <krabador> Kekko22, chi ha seguito la guida di cui parli, ti ha mentito,in quanto è per i nexus
[16:30] <manet> ho fatto tutto quel che m hai detto da terminale
[16:30] <Kekko22> E perchè hanno messo la foto di un S3 Mini?
[16:30] <Kekko22> °-°
[16:30] <Carlin0> manet, posta i link prodotti dagli ultimi 2 comandi
[16:31] <krabador> Kekko22, sono tanti i misteri dell'universo
[16:31] <krabador> Kekko22, ma una certezza è che i porting esistenti sono medioevali, e basati su una codebase abbandonata
[16:32] <Kekko22> quindi è inutile che provo ad installare ubuntu touch?
[16:32] <manet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397743/
[16:32] <manet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397743/
[16:32] <manet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397743/
[16:32] <cristian_c> però non è che uno guarda solo le figure..., ma legge anche il testo, prima di procedere
[16:32] <Kekko22> Si ovvio, ho letto.
[16:32] <krabador> c'è la nuova porting guide da febbraio di quest'anno, ma praticamente non ci sono porting
[16:32] <manet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397743/
[16:32] <manet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397743/
[16:32] <manet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397752/
[16:32] <krabador> Kekko22, fatti un nexus supportato , ed installa ubuntu touch
[16:33] <krabador> oppure fatti un meizu mx4 ubuntu edition
[16:33] <Kekko22> mai e poi mai, non uso prodotti google.
[16:33] <manet> è giurassico? :)
[16:33] <krabador> o il bq aquaris 4.5 o 5
[16:33] <manet> o degno di ubuntu 15?
[16:33] <Kekko22> Si infatti anche se dipende dal costo
[16:33] <Carlin0> manet, il 2° ...
[16:34] <krabador> manet, senti
[16:34] <krabador> vuoi per favore
[16:34] <krabador> indicare
[16:34] <krabador> la versione completa a cui ti riferisci ?
[16:34] <manet> quella scritta a caratteri cubitali sulla home del sito
[16:34] <krabador> manet, e puoi
[16:34] <krabador> riportarla qui
[16:34] <krabador> o ti esplode un braccio?
[16:35] <Kekko22> Vabbè ho capito. Devo mettere mano al portafogli (di nuovo)
[16:35] <Kekko22> Grazie di tutto
[16:35] <manet> Ubuntu 15.10 "tutti i nuovi programmi, in un sistema sempre più bello e stabile. pensavo fosse solo un programma, ho cliccato e sta aprendo
[16:36] <krabador> manet, ecco, adesso almeno stiamo parlando di qualcosa di preciso
[16:36] <krabador> manet, esiston 14.10 non piu' supportata
[16:36] <krabador> manet, e 15.04 che sta uscendo dal supporto
[16:36] <Kekko22> oppure posso provare a progettare il mio telefono personale...
[16:36] <krabador> !chat | Kekko22
[16:36] <ubot-it> Kekko22: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[16:36] <Kekko22> Ok
[16:37] <manet> quindi, per quel che è il mio pc. quale versione mi consigliereste? come avrete capito dalla velocità di risposta e dal target delle domande, non ho particolari pretese, se non stabilità e facilità
[16:38] <Carlin0> manet, installa pure la 15.10 , è + aggiornata
[16:41] <manet> ora ho una domanda così stupida che mi vergogno a farla ma procedo... se clicco sull'immagine dell file ubuntu 15.10 che ho app scaricato, mi rende possibile "ripristinare" l'immagine solo su disco fisso o su chiavetta.. il dvd non sempre considerarlo (appare grigio opaco). ho sbagliato qualcosa?
[16:41] <krabador> !iso | manet
[16:41] <ubot-it> manet: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[16:41] <manet> (anzi ritiro: ho cambiato pc e funziona)
[16:41] <krabador> usbwin | manet
[16:42] <krabador> se hai ubuntu , meglio usare dd
[16:42] <krabador> che usb creator non va
[16:44] <manet> ps se nell'installazione di ubuntu 15.10 gli dico di cancellare tutto... sistema da solo il programma di installazione tutte le partizioni? o cè qualcosa che posso fare a mano? ricordo che c è una partizione (swap?) per una specie di ram aggiuntiva che se ricordo la scorsa volta aggiunsi a mano
[16:46] <cristian_c> manet: cancellare tutto semplicemente cancella tutto
[16:46] <cristian_c> e crea partizioni per ubuntu sull'intero disco
[16:47] <cristian_c> manet: nello specifico, l'opzione farà in modo che sul disco ci siano solamente una partizione ext4 per il sistema e una per lamsap
[16:47] <cristian_c> la swap
[16:47] <Carlin0> manet, usi ibernazione o sospensione ?
[16:48] <manet> cosa intendi per ibernazione o sospensione?
[16:48] <krabador> manet, l'unica cosa che si puo' intendere
[16:48] <krabador> se uno le usa, lo sa
[16:49] <manet> allora rispondo: non sapendo cosa significhino queste parole in ambito pc. probabilmente nessuna delle due :)
[16:49] <Gigirich> Ciao
[16:50] <krabador> manet, se non le usi, la swap non server
[16:50] <krabador> *serve
[16:50] <krabador> !ciao | Gigirich
[16:50] <ubot-it> Gigirich: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[16:50] <Carlin0> manet, avendo 4gb di ram se non iiberni / sospendi potesti anche fare a meno della swap
[16:50] <manet> ma si intende quando il pc rimane chiuso a lungo? schermo nero?
[16:51] <Carlin0> manet, intendo quando spegni il pc , spegni o iberni o sospendi
[16:52] <manet> la terza è la più dispendiosa ed è da evitare in caso di mancanza della swap?
[16:52] <davide> x ibernare il pc con 15.10
[16:53] <manet> in effetti a volte col 14 ci metteva molto a riaccendersi, dopo che lo avevo "ibernato"
[16:53] <krabador> manet, sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[16:54] <manet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13398244/
[16:56] <krabador> manet, c'è già la swap, fai partire l'installazione, selezioni "altro" selezioni la vecchia root, clicchi su un tasto change, che avrai sotto la tabella, selezioni file system ext4 con journaling, punto di mount / , selezioni la formattazione, e vai avanti
[17:26] <ansa58> salve a tutti...... mi servirebbe un aiutino
[17:26] <krabador> !ciao | ansa58
[17:26] <ubot-it> ansa58: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[17:26] <krabador> !chiedi | ansa58
[17:26] <ubot-it> ansa58: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[17:27] <ansa58> dovrei installare una Brother MFC-J650DW
[17:27] <ansa58> scusami
[17:27] <ansa58> e grazie.
[17:28] <niconico> krabador, salve
[17:28] <manet> grazie a tutti dell'aiuto. buona seraata
[17:29] <krabador> manet, buonasera
[17:29] <krabador> !ciao | niconico
[17:29] <ubot-it> niconico: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[17:29] <niconico> krabador, alla fine ho risolto quel problema
[17:33] <niconico> ragazzi ma dove trovo il pacchetto linux-rt? :S
[17:33] <krabador> ansa58, devi , o dovresti ?
[17:33] <cristian_c> ansa58: elenca tutti i passi provati fino ad oa
[17:34] <cristian_c> niconico: per fare musica?
[17:34] <ansa58> devo se qualcuno mi aiuta
[17:34] <krabador> niconico, che scheda audio hai a disposizione?ù
[17:34] <ansa58> non ho provato niente, il problema è che sto imparando adesso
[17:34] <krabador> ansa58, se devi, ti si aiuta, se dovresti , ti si aiuterebbe
[17:35] <niconico> cristian_c: si
[17:35] <krabador> ansa58, aaaah, ma tu sei partenopeo...
[17:35] <niconico> krabador: la scheda non è delle migliori cmq
[17:35] <ansa58> il problema è che forse sono stato troppo delicato ed educato, ok, devo !!!
[17:35] <krabador> niconico, allora non attaccarti al kernel real time, se l'aspetto principale è lasciato al caso
[17:35] <cristian_c> ansa58: allora prova semplicemente a collegarla
[17:35] <ansa58> caserta
[17:36] <ansa58> già fatto
[17:36] <cristian_c> e vedere se la aggiungi dalla finestra stampanti
[17:36] <krabador> ansa58, hai imparato a digitare il comando cd , nel terminale, seguito dal percorso completo della cartella?
[17:36] <ansa58> niente da fare, i drivers presenti non sono adatti
[17:36] <ansa58> ci provo
[17:36] <cristian_c> ansa58: quali driver presenti?
[17:37] <ansa58> quelli che ha in dotazione ubuntu
[17:37] <niconico> krabador, io ho una uca222 della behringer per ora e volevo provare il real time
[17:37] <cristian_c> ansa58: puoi essere meno vago?
[17:38] <niconico> ma cmq il pacchetto linux-rt che leggo dal wiki di ubuntu dove è ?
[17:38] <ansa58> mi dispsiace che non mi so spiegare bene
[17:38] <krabador> niconico, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[17:38] <ansa58> i driver che devo installare io non sono presenti in Ubuntu
[17:39] <krabador> ansa58, e dove sono presenti?
[17:39] <ansa58> li ho scaricati dal sito della brother ma non li so installare, è chiaro adesso ?
[17:39] <ansa58> li ho sulla scrivania
[17:39] <krabador> Lu2015, scrivi pure in canale, ho i privati disabilitati
[17:39] <krabador> ansa58, adesso è chiaro perchè finalmente hai detto cosa hai fatto
[17:40] <ansa58> mfcj650dwlpr-3.0.0-1.i386
[17:40] <krabador> il che è fondamentale quando si riceve assistenza
[17:40] <ansa58> capisco
[17:40] <Lu2015> scusami. Che posso fare: Java non funziona. Devo reinstallare tutto, con la versione 15.10?
[17:40] <ansa58> però ti ripeto sono alle prime armi con Ubuntu
[17:41] <Lu2015> e seguire le tue indicazioni dell'altro giorno?
[17:41] <krabador> ansa58, devi scaricare questo linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1.gz
[17:41] <krabador> dal sito brother
[17:41] <ansa58> ok, ci provo
[17:41] <krabador> ansa58, non c'è da provare, o lo scarichi, o non lo scarichi
[17:41] <krabador> non iniziamo.
[17:42] <ansa58> lo scarico, dammi il tempo necessario
[17:42] <krabador> Lu2015, ti ho mandato prima, lo stesso comando
[17:42] <Lu2015> lo ho eseguito ,
[17:42] <krabador> Lu2015, che cosa hai fatto, col sistema, hai reinstallato?
[17:43] <Lu2015> Allora. Dall'inizio
[17:43] <Lu2015> ho provato ubunto dalla chiavetta
[17:43] <Lu2015> tutto ok
[17:43] <Lu2015> ho installato la versione 14.04 oggi
[17:43] <Lu2015> ho messo i vari comandi sul terminale
[17:44] <Lu2015> ma a differenza della volta scorsa mi dava tutta una serie di errori
[17:44] <cristian_c> 'i vari comandi'
[17:44] <Lu2015> e Java non parte
[17:44] <krabador> Lu2015, esatto , contestualizza "i vari comandi"
[17:44] <cristian_c> oggi tytti precisi
[17:44] <niconico> xD
[17:44] <cristian_c> tutti
[17:44] <krabador> Lu2015, hai provato su chiavetta 15.10 o 14.04?
[17:45] <Lu2015> 15.10
[17:45] <krabador> Lu2015, fatti un favore, installa 15.10 , connesso ad internet, con spunta su software di terze parti ed aggiornamenti
[17:45] <ansa58> linux-brprinter-installer-2.0
[17:46] <Lu2015> ok
[17:46] <ansa58> fatto
[17:46] <Lu2015> Lo devo fare con la chiavetta?
[17:46] <krabador> una volta fatta l'installazione sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[17:46] <krabador> Lu2015, o usb o dvd
[17:47] <Lu2015> ok, grazie
[17:47] <krabador> Lu2015, una volta mandato il comando sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre icedtea-7-plugin
[17:47] <krabador> ed hai java
[17:47] <krabador> that's it
[17:48] <manet> salve, sono il manet di prima, ho problemi col file di installazione ubuntu 15.10, il pc non si avvia da dvd e quando provo a aprirlo dice "impossibile montare ubuntu 15.10 amd64" Error mounting /dev/sr0 at /media/matteo/Ubuntu 15.10 amd64: Command-line `mount -t "iso9660" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,
[17:48] <manet> dmode=0500" "/dev/sr0" "/media/matteo/Ubuntu 15.10 amd64"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[17:48] <manet> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0,
[17:48] <manet> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[17:48] <manet> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[17:48] <manet> dmesg | tail or so ............ cosa posso fare? grazie
[17:48] <krabador> ansa58, scompatta il contenuto in una cartella
[17:48] <krabador> ansa58, apri il terminale
[17:49] <krabador> vai nella cartella in cui hai scompattato il file
[17:49] <krabador> con il comando cd
[17:49] <krabador> una volta li dentro , fai un fischio
[17:50] <chesuccede> salve. sono manet: mi ha fatto cadere qualche sistema anti incollaggio?
[17:50] <cristian_c> chesuccede: tecnicamente , flood
[17:51] <chesuccede> come faccio a incollarvi il testo?
[17:52] <cristian_c> !paste | chesuccede
[17:52] <ubot-it> chesuccede: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[17:52] <krabador> !pastebin | chesuccede
[17:52] <krabador> chesuccede, è scritto anche nel topic, non ti appare?
[17:53] <ansa58> krabador,
[17:53] <ansa58> scusami, non riesco, la cartella scompattata ce l'ho sulla scrivania in Driver
[17:53] <krabador> ansa58, per una settimana
[17:53] <krabador> ti è stato detto come fare
[17:53] <krabador> lo fai apposta?
[17:54] <cristian_c> ansa58: interessante, anche partenopeo ce l'aveva sulla Scrivania
[17:54] <cristian_c> alla rubrica Curiosità
[17:54] <ansa58> per una settimana ???
[17:55] <ansa58> ma che stai dicendo ??
[17:55] <ansa58> guarda che Ubuntu io l'ho installato oggi
[17:55] <krabador> sisi, ok...
[17:55] <krabador> allora
[17:55] <ansa58> vabbè, lascia perdere
[17:55] <krabador> con il gestore files, va nella cartella di scompattamento
[17:56] <ansa58> la fiducia è tutto e a me da fastidio che mi si manca
[17:56] <krabador> !chat | ansa58
[17:56] <ubot-it> ansa58: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:56] <cristian_c> ansa58: oh, era una Curiosità, non ti scaldare
[17:56] <krabador> o segui le istruzioni, o arrivederci
[17:56] <ansa58> non ho motivo di dire stronzate
[17:56] <krabador> con il gestore files, va nella cartella di scompattamento
[17:56] <krabador> una volta li, premi ctrl l
[17:56] <krabador> copi il percorso completo della cartella
[17:56] <krabador> vai nel terminale, che apri con ctrl alt t
[17:57] <krabador> digiti cd
[17:57] <ansa58> ok
[17:57] <krabador> incolli
[17:57] <krabador> invio
[17:57] <krabador> quando hai fatto, fa un fischio
[17:59] <krabador> ansa58, ah, a scanso di equivoci,digiti cd, premi la barra spaziatrice, incolli quanto copiato, e premi invio
[18:07] <ansa58> fatto
[18:08] <krabador> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:08] <krabador> ls -la | pastebinit
[18:08] <krabador> quest'ultimo fa un link, incollalo qui
[18:11] <ansa58> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13400953/
[18:11] <krabador> sudo chmod +x linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1
[18:13] <ansa58> fatto
[18:13] <krabador> ./linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1
[18:13] <krabador> invio
[18:15] <ansa58> c'è qualcosa che non va: impossibile accedere a "linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1": File o directory non esistente
[18:17] <niconico> help
[18:17] <cristian_c> niconico: che succede?
[18:17] <cristian_c> (non l'utente manet)
[18:18] <niconico> cristian_c: hauhauhaauh
[18:18] <krabador> !chat | niconico
[18:18] <ubot-it> niconico: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[18:18] <cristian_c> niconico: per le risate, c'è la ch<t
[18:18] <cristian_c> chat
[18:18] <cristian_c> o altri luoghi non virtuali più pertinenti
[18:19] <niconico> krabador, il tuo "buahahaha" )??
[18:19] <niconico> cmq scusate
[18:21] <niconico> cristian_c: dal link che mi ha mandato krabador, ho scaricato un zip, contenente un kernel precompilato amd64 che non mi serve
[18:21] <krabador> niconico, non pingare ad personam
[18:21] <krabador> qui fai la domanda, e chi vuole risponde
[18:22] <niconico> poi è presente uno script che mi dovrebbe ottimizzare ubuntu studio
[18:22] <niconico> krabador, sissignore
[18:22] <krabador> niconico, in ubuntu non è fornito kernel real time, l'utente se lo deve proprio andara a compilare
[18:22] <krabador> niconico, e non prendere per il culo
[18:23] <niconico> krabador, non mi permetto. Poi so che bisogna compilarselo
[18:24] <niconico> cristian_c: come faccio partire lo script? è presente ancora nello zip, e nella mia home
[18:24] <ansa58> aiuto !
[18:25] <krabador> ansa58, ls -la | pastebinit
[18:26] <ansa58> fatto, mi esce questo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401247/
[18:26] <krabador> ansa58, sei uscito dalla cartella in cui è dentro il file
[18:27] <krabador> come pretendi che il comando vada?
[18:27] <krabador> hai chiuso il terminale tra un comando e l'altro
[18:27] <krabador> e devi spiegarmi perchè
[18:27] <ansa58> ma no
[18:27] <krabador> ah no?
[18:27] <ansa58> se vuoi ti faccio la copia di tutto quello che veda a terminale e te la invio
[18:27] <krabador> e allora perchè adesso sei nella /home/utente , nel terminale
[18:27] <ansa58> ti giuro
[18:27] <krabador> ansa58, non serve
[18:28] <krabador> lo vedo benissimo in che cartella sei
[18:28] <ansa58> ho tutti i comandi che mi hai dettato a terminale
[18:28] <krabador> ansa58, sei nella home
[18:28] <krabador> il file non è nella home
[18:28] <krabador> il comando non andrà mai
[18:28] <krabador> non c'è finito da solo, nella home
[18:28] <krabador> quindi per favore, smettila
[18:28] <krabador> tra l'altro 'sta scena è durata una settimana intera
[18:29] <ansa58> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[18:29] <ansa58> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[18:29] <ansa58> angelo@angelo-System-Product-Name:~$ cd home /scrivania /driver
[18:29] <ansa58> bash: cd: home: File o directory non esistente
[18:29] <ansa58> angelo@angelo-System-Product-Name:~$ cd home scrivania driver
[18:29] <krabador> perfetto
[18:29] <krabador> una settimanda intera , e neanche copia/incolla ha mai dato
[18:36] <ansa58> rieccomi
[18:37] <cristian_c> ansa58: ce l'hai fatta a mandare il comando corretto?
con il gestore files, va nella cartella di scompattamento
una volta li, premi ctrl l
copi il percorso completo della cartella
vai nel terminale, che apri con ctrl alt t
digiti cd
incolli
invio
ansa58, ah, a scanso di equivoci,digiti cd, premi la barra spaziatrice, incolli quanto copiato, e premi invio
[18:39] <krabador> il tutto dalle 18:56, non ci mettere un ora , per favore.
[18:42] <ansa58> ho aperto la cartella dove ho i driver e ho fatto: apri nel terminale
[18:42] <krabador> ansa58, vuoi un applauso?
[18:43] <krabador> ansa58, ls -la | pastebinit
[18:43] <ansa58> no, non ero sicuro
[18:43] <ansa58> scusami
[18:43] <ansa58> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401591/
[18:44] <krabador> ./linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1
[18:44] <krabador> non chiudere e riaprire il terminale
[18:44] <krabador> ma copia, incolla questo,e premi invio
[18:44] <ansa58> Only root can perform this operation.
[18:45] <krabador> sudo sh linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1
[18:46] <ansa58> -e -n Input model name ->
[18:46] <krabador> metti il modello della stampante
[18:49] <ansa58> brother mfc-j650dw
[18:49] <ansa58> -e
[18:49] <ansa58> -e Driver-packages cannot be found.
[18:49] <ansa58> -e Confirm the model name.
[18:52] <krabador> ansa58, inserisci questo modello, in questo modo, quando richiesto MFCJ470DW
[18:54] <ansa58> MFCJ470DW
[18:54] <ansa58> -e
[18:54] <ansa58> -e You are going to install following packages.
[18:54] <ansa58> -e mfcj470dwlpr-3.0.0-1.i386.deb
[18:54] <ansa58> -e mfcj470dwcupswrapper-3.0.0-1.i386.deb
[18:57] <ansa58> -e -n select the number of destination Device URI. ->
[18:58] <cristian_c> ansa58: puoi utilizzare pastebin se sono tante righe?
[18:59] <ansa58> scusmi ma ti ripeto che stò imparando
[18:59] <ansa58> non sono pratico di Ubuntu
[18:59] <ansa58> spero di non esservi troppo di peso
[19:00] <krabador> !pastebinit | ansa58
[19:00] <ubot-it> ansa58: pastebinit è la versione a linea di comando equivalente di !pastebin - L'output di un comando oppure del testo possono essere reindirizzati a pastebinit, il quale risponde con un URL contenente l'output - Per usare pastebinit, installare il pacchetto « pastebinit » dall'ubuntu software center - Esempio di utilizzo: comando | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:00] <krabador> non si puo' incollare qui
[19:00] <ansa58> scusatemi
[19:03] <krabador> !pastebin | ansa58
[19:03] <ubot-it> ansa58: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[19:04] <ansa58> grazie
[19:04] <krabador> ansa58, per favore, non abbiamo tutta la notte
[19:10] <ansa58> aspetto ordini
[19:11] <cristian_c> ansa58: incolla il link al paste
[19:11] <cristian_c> questo ti s'era chiesto
[19:11] <cristian_c> invece che incollzre spezzoni di output del terminale, qui in canale
[19:12] <ansa58> -e -n select the number of destination Device URI. ->
[19:12] <cristian_c> !paste | ansa58
[19:12] <ubot-it> ansa58: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[19:12] <cristian_c> ansa58: apri il sito, incolli il testo, ibdichi il nick, premi paste e incolli qui il link
[19:12] <krabador> ansa58, qua non è questione di esperienza
[19:13] <krabador> non fai quello che ti si chiede
[19:13] <krabador> se non hai voglia, puoi andare, nessun problema.
[19:14] <ansa58> quant'è bello quando non hai bisogno di nessuno
[19:14] <krabador> ansa58, concentrati e non sparare cazzate, per favore
[19:15] <krabador> è un ora e mezza che stai qui , per 2 comandi da terminale+
[19:15] <ansa58> cmq pare che ho inviato tutto attraverso http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:15] <krabador> no, non l'hai fatto
[19:15] <cristian_c> ansa58: prima avevi incollato su pastebin la risposta ad alcuni comandi
[19:15] <krabador> hai incollato il sito
[19:15] <krabador> non il tuo
[19:15] <ansa58> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402199/
[19:15] <cristian_c> ansa58: cos'è che te lo impedisce invece ora?
[19:15] <krabador> cristian_c, prima erano pastebinit
[19:15] <ansa58> l'ignoranza
[19:15] <krabador> ansa58, fidati , non è ignoranza
[19:16] <cristian_c> ah.
[19:16] <krabador> in questo caso.
[19:16] <ansa58> te l'ho detto che non sono troppo pratico
[19:16] <ansa58> però, cavolo, voi di pazienza ne avete tanta
[19:18] <krabador> ansa58, -e -n Will you specify the Device URI? [Y/n] -> qui devi dire no
[19:20] <ansa58> -e dpkg -i --force-all brscan-skey-0.2.4-1.amd64.deb
[19:21] <ansa58> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402344/
[19:24] <krabador> l'hai attaccata usb?
[19:24] <ansa58> si
[19:24] <ansa58> certo
[19:26] <krabador> premi invio senza inserire ip
[19:27] <ansa58> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402519/
[19:31] <ansa58> ci metto ip ?
[19:33] <cristian_c> ansa58: allora
[19:34] <ansa58> ?
[19:37] <cristian_c> un attimo puoi averlo?
[19:37] <cristian_c> ansa58: hai l'ip dello scanner?
[19:37] <ansa58> anche di più
[19:37] <ansa58> ho l'ip della stampante
[19:38] <cristian_c> se hai dhcp funzionerà non per tanto tempo
[19:39] <ansa58> va bene
[19:39] <ansa58> finchè và và
[19:39] <cristian_c> ansa58: nella lista avresti dovuto scegliere usb
[19:39] <cristian_c> o meglio ancora dire 'n' per far selezionare automaticamente
[19:39] <ansa58> perchè che ho scelto?
[19:40] <cristian_c> allora, ho visto che basta il nodename
[19:41] <ansa58> cioè?
[19:41] <cristian_c> non per forza l'ip
[19:41] <ansa58> dove prendo il nodename?
[19:46] <cristian_c> ansa58: per non perdersi inserisci l'ip dello scanner
[19:47] <cristian_c> ansa58: ma hai premuto invio?
[19:47] <ansa58> inserito
[19:48] <cristian_c> ok
[19:48] <cristian_c> pastebinna
[19:48] <ansa58> grazie
[19:48] <cristian_c> ansa58: fatto?
[19:49] <ansa58> si
[19:49] <cristian_c> posta il link qui
[19:49] <ansa58> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13403130/
[19:50] <krabador> ansa58, riavvia, prova la stampante
[19:50] <cristian_c> ansa58: dopo aver premuto invio hai digitato l'ip?
[19:50] <ansa58> si
[19:52] <ansa58> è ita
[19:52] <ansa58> è andata
[19:52] <ansa58> non so come ringraziare
[19:52] <ansa58> dire grazie è poco
[19:53] <ansa58> avete una santa pazienza
[19:53] <ansa58> cmq Grazie e scusate l'ignoranza.
[19:56] <krabador> stappiamo una bottiglia :D
[19:57] <ansa58> champagne
[19:58] <ansa58> grazie di nuovo e buona notte. (non sono partenope)
[20:51] <max55> sera ho problemi di connessione ho trovato questo :Per migliorare la nostra connessione Wi-Fi su Ubuntu editare il file sysctl.conf
[20:51] <Carlin0> max55, trovato dove ?
[20:52] <max55> linux fridom ma continua aspetta
[20:52] <max55> Ed aggiungiamo in fondo:
[20:52] <max55> net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies = 1
[20:52] <max55> net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 0
[20:52] <max55> net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 0
[20:53] <krabador> max55, hai cercato e trovato quella cosa, per quale problema, di base?
[20:53] <max55> la connessione va a singhiozzo
[20:54] <max55> va da un massimo di 36mb a 3mb a secondo
[20:54] <krabador> max55, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:54] <krabador> sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[20:56] <max55> di cosa devo mandarti il paste mi scrivi il comando
[20:57] <krabador> max55, copia ed incolla entrambi nel terminale
[20:57] <krabador> premi invio per ognuno
[20:57] <krabador> incolla il link prodotto dall'ultimo
[21:00] <max55> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13407685/
[21:01] <max55> e giusto cosi?
[21:01] <krabador> si, giusto
[21:01] <krabador> che ubuntu ^
[21:01] <krabador> ?
[21:02] <max55> 1404
[21:04] <krabador> la wireless è wpa2
[21:04] <max55> non lo so non e mia la rete
[21:05] <max55> mi da il segnale un mio amico
[21:05] <krabador> con le atheros, le reti wpa2 funzionano meglio
[21:06] <max55> qundi e un problema di rete non mio
[21:07] <krabador> max55, echo 'options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[21:07] <krabador> da terminale
[21:07] <krabador> riavvia , vedi se hai il problema
[21:08] <max55> echo 'options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf e tutto questo il comando
[21:10] <krabador> copia ed incolla nel terminale tutta la linea
[21:10] <max55> ok
[21:10] <max55> riavvio
[21:15] <max55> sera oscilla ancora a toccato massimo 54mb a secondo
[21:15] <max55> adesso e stabile su 24mb
[21:16] <Carlin0> è
[21:16] <max55> mi riferisco alla connessione
[21:16] <krabador> max55, ma cade?
[21:17] <max55> a toccato una volta 2mb
[21:17] <Carlin0> ha
[21:17] <Carlin0> max55, sei italiano ?
[21:17] <max55> 2 volte
[21:17] <max55> diciamo di si perche
[21:18] <max55> sono italiano siciliano
[21:18] <krabador> ok
[21:18] <Carlin0> perchè non conosci l'uso dei verbi ausiliari
[21:18] <krabador> beh, dai , l'utente s'è sbagliato
[21:19] <Carlin0> è stabile , ha toccato
[21:19] <max55> e vabbe niete ci fa
[21:20] <max55> e ferma su 24 mb a secondo sembra meglio di prima
[21:20] <krabador> bene
[21:20] <max55> grazie kabrador
[21:20] <krabador> di niente
[21:21] <max55> ho da chidervi un altra cosa che non riguarda ubuntu
[21:21] <Carlin0> !chat
[21:21] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[21:21] <krabador> ok max55 allora entra nel canale chat
[21:23] <max55> ma e di unity
[21:23] <krabador> e allora chiedi
[21:23] <max55> posso istallarla su debian?
[21:24] <Carlin0> debian è la mamma di ubuntu , vuoi fare un incesto
[21:24] <krabador> max55, ti piace unity?
[21:24] <max55> si
[21:24] <Carlin0> unity gira solo su ubuntu e opensuse so che ha un repo dedicato
[21:25] <Carlin0> le altre distro lo ignorano
[21:26] <krabador> diciamo che non puoi
[21:27] <krabador> perchè potresti ma non è facile, e non funziona gran ch
[21:27] <krabador> che
[21:27] <max55> ok
[21:27] <max55> traballa dinuovo
[21:27] <Carlin0> rischi un sacco di incompatibilità sopratutto se cercheresti di metterlo su debian stable
[21:28] <max55> molto gentili
[21:28] <krabador> max55, l'importante è che non cada
[21:28] <max55> non cade
[21:29] <max55> va 2e poi risale
[21:29] <max55> ma perche fa cosi
[21:29] <max55> adesso 1
[21:30] <Carlin0> in primis perchè non hai il router in casa tua , quindi il segnale deve attraversare dei muri
[21:31] <max55> si e come tu dici
[21:31] <max55> e quindi e quello
[21:32] <krabador> max55, ogni tanto, però, non voglio importi niente, ma mettilo un accento sulla e
[21:32] <krabador> non ci va sempre
[21:34] <max55> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:34] <max55> sudo iwconfig
[21:34] <max55> sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[21:34] <max55> ho trovato questo
[21:34] <max55> scusate pre il modo in cui scrivo
[21:35] <Carlin0> max55, non fidarti di tutto ciò che trovi in rete
[21:36] <max55> per questo chiedo
[21:36] <krabador> max55, devi consultare solo documentazione ufficiale
[21:36] <Carlin0> !wiki
[21:36] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org - http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GuidaWiki
[21:39] <max55> allora piccoli ma grandi aladini di ubuntu niente altre magie non chiedetemi le virgole ok!!
[21:40] <krabador> perchè, te le ha vietate il medico?
[21:43] <max55> non le mastico bene
[21:43] <max55> come le e
[21:48] <max55> be signori una buona serata e grazie per aver ricevuto le vostre attenzioni Grazie alla prossima
[21:49] <krabador> buon proseguimento
[21:49] <Stress> Buonasera a tutti. Sono alla terza reinstallazione di Xubuntu e comincio a perdere un po la pazienza.
[21:50] <max55> ache a voi ciao
[21:50] <krabador> Stress, che xubuntu, su che pc
[21:50] <Stress> Ora si pianta sulla finestra di avvio, quella tutta azzurra e non si muove piu da li. Potete aiutarmi _
[21:50] <krabador> !dettagli | Stress
[21:50] <ubot-it> Stress: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[21:50] <Stress> ?
[21:51] <Stress> ok, scusate lo sfogo. Dunque Xubuntu 14.04 lts, installato su pc toshiba satellite c850D -10w dove fino a qualche giorno fa girava perfettametne ubuntu 14.04 lts
[21:52] <Stress> Ho seguito guide post installazione, scaricato aggiornamenti e usato perfettamente Xubuntu fino a poco fa. Poi ho spento e al riavvio si pianta sulla videata iniziale
[21:53] <Stress> non ho dual boot (anche provando con boot-repair da live mi ha creato una sorta di dual boot virtuale, credo)
[21:53] <Stress> fine.
[21:53] <krabador> Stress, accendi , alla prima linea di grub, appena appare, premi il tasto e
[21:53] <krabador> cancelli le parole quiet splash, premi f10
[21:53] <krabador> e vedi dove si blocca
[21:56] <Stress_> Ok, mi sono connesso da altro pc cosi eseguo quel che suggerite
[21:58] <Stress_> Peccaato..ho perso il vs messaggio... Dunque, ho riavviato e schiacciato e. Ora è comparsa videata setparams 'Ubuntu'. Che devo fare ora?
[21:58] <krabador> cancellare quiet splash
[21:58] <krabador> premere f10
[22:01] <Stress_> Cancello proprio solo le due parole quiet splash che si trovano nella penultima riga? O anche $vt_handoff?
[22:01] <krabador> Stress_, non sto andando ad indovinelli
[22:01] <krabador> datti una mossa
[22:03] <Stress_> Abbi pazienza, per me è arabo. Cmq ho cancellato e schiacciato f10. Ha detto che non trovava alcuni file e poi ha cominciato a scorrere pagine di righe di codice
[22:04] <krabador> segnala, se si blocca, cosa c'è scritt o
[22:05] <Stress_> E ora è fermo su una videata nera con tre stringhe: *starting cups printing spooler/server; *starting Samba Auto-reload Integration; *stopping Samba Auto-reload Integration (tutte e tre le righe hanno l'OK)
[22:05] <Stress_> È fermo qui da un bel po'
[22:08] <krabador> Stress_, puoi verificare l'md5 del file iso che hai usato per fare il supporto di installazione^
[22:08] <krabador> ?
[22:08] <krabador> !md5 | Stress_
[22:08] <ubot-it> Stress_: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[22:12] <Stress_> Il mio live è su chiavetta usb. È quella che andrebbe verificata, giusto? In questo caso che comando devo dare per farla analizzare?
[22:12] <krabador> devi controllare prima il file iso
[22:12] <krabador> scaricato da interne
[22:13] <Stress_> Non ce l'ho con me... è sul hhd esterno in cui avevo fatto i backup prima di mettere xubuntu..
[22:14] <f843d0> Stress_: puoi sempre partire live da chiavetta, montare l'HDD esterno e controllare l'MD5 dell'iso
[22:14] <Stress_> Come ho detto, non ce l'ho con me l'hdd esterno...
[22:14] <f843d0> Stress_: ad ogni modo, prima hai scritto di aver installato, "fatto cose", aggiornato e riavviato...
[22:14] <f843d0> Stress_: hai provato ad installare, avviare, non fare niente, riavviare?
[22:15] <krabador> Stress_, avvia la macchina, seleziona la seconda voce di grub
[22:15] <krabador> successivamente ancora la seconda voce
[22:15] <krabador> ovvero recovery
[22:15] <Stress_> Fatto
[22:15] <krabador> se parte, attacchi un cavo lan, selezioni networking
[22:16] <krabador> poi root
[22:18] <Stress_> Couldn't find support for device at 'sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.1/0000:06:00.0' : noy supported by any plugin
[22:19] <krabador> è bloccato li ?
[22:19] <Stress_> Non ho una lan, ma un roouter wi-fi connesso tramite usb
[22:19] <Stress_> Sì
[22:20] <krabador> Stress_, per la manutenzione serve la lan
[22:20] <Stress_> Che stresssssssss
[22:20] <krabador> Stress_, puoi evitarlo non usandolo, se non sei attrezzato
[22:21] <krabador> Stress_, carica la pendrive in sessione live, la sessione di prova
[22:21] <krabador> fa ulteriore backup nel tuo famoso disco esterno di quello che ti puo' servire
[22:21] <krabador> scarica xubuntu 15.10 , fa il supporto di installazione
[22:22] <krabador> ed installa 15.10
[22:46] <erman> sera
[22:46] <krabador> !ciao | erman
[22:46] <ubot-it> erman: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[22:46] <erman> c'è qualcuno che può darmi una mano? ho un problema con il commando "make"
[22:46] <krabador> !chat | erman
[22:46] <ubot-it> erman: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[22:47] <erman> grazie
[22:51] <ugauga> salve: ho scaricato l'immagine di ubuntu 15.10 ma il pc non si avvia da disco e quando provo ad aprirlo da errore.. qualcuno è in grado di aiutarmi a risolvere il problema? sto usando ubuntu 14 e vorrei passare al 15
[22:52] <krabador> ugauga, come hai masterizzato la iso?
[22:52] <ugauga> con brasero
[22:53] <krabador> ugauga, era spuntata la voce per la chiusura della sessione di masterizzazione?
[22:53] <ugauga> si, se ricordo ha pure espulso il disco
[22:54] <ugauga> da un complicatissimo errore
[22:54] <ugauga> quando provo ad aprirlo
[22:54] <ugauga> dicendo "impossibile montare ubuntu 15.10"
[22:56] <krabador> ugauga, sicuro che lettore dvd, e supporto siano integri?
[22:56] <krabador> ugauga, puoi controllare l'md5 della iso scaricata?
[22:56] <krabador> !md5 | ugauga
[22:56] <ubot-it> ugauga: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[22:58] <ugauga> con lo stesso dvd ho reinstallato ieri ubuntu 14, quindi dovrebbe essere intatto
[22:58] <krabador> ugauga, su che pc?
[22:59] <ugauga> sul sony vaio che questo pomeriggio (ero manet) mi avete detto essere apposto per ubuntu 15
[23:04] <krabador> ugauga, ha uefi ?
[23:06] <ugauga> non so cosa sia..
[23:10] <krabador> ugauga, se riscrivibile, fa una formattazione completa del supporto
[23:11] <krabador> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso#Masterizzare_con_Ubuntu
[23:11] <krabador> e riprova
[23:21] <ugauga> ora procedo con calma e vediamo se riesco a combinare qualcosa. grazie
[23:21] <krabador> di niente
[23:22] <krabador> echo "blacklist xpad" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:22] <krabador> ops
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-es
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[14:12] <amundsen> hola
[14:12] <amundsen> sabe alguien si snappy va a suponer una marginacion de apt?
[14:13] <mimecar> no necesariamente
[14:14] <mimecar> aparte de que apt se usa en más distribuciones
[14:17] <amundsen> mimecar, pepro esas distribuaciones estan basadas en ubuntu
[14:17] <mimecar> Debian no está basada en Ubuntu
[14:18] <mimecar> Ubuntu tiene cosas como Xmir que no están en otras distribuciones
[14:18] <mimecar> o Unity
[15:45] <successus> salud o/
[18:39] <roger_35> hola
[18:52] <tatiana2> holi
[21:39] <danes> buenas, algun vpn que recomienden?
[22:25] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
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2015-11-21-#juju
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[19:59] <scubabri> howdee
[19:59] <scubabri> anyone here got time for a juju/openstack question?
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2015-11-21-#xubuntu
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[00:58] <xubuntu90w> Are there any bugs reported about the network manager? I have this problem when I try to change the Wi-Fi network that I'm using the whole computer freezes and the only option I have is a hardware reset
[01:04] <mrkramps> xubuntu90w, sounds familiar too me, but i cannot tell you much more as i do not use it
[01:05] <mrkramps> it does not seem to be a general issue but concerned with certain wifi devices
[01:07] <xubuntu90w> I have found that the bug is already reported
[01:07] <xubuntu90w> Labeled as critic
[01:08] <xubuntu90w> Thanks for your reply mrkramps
[01:08] <mrkramps> yes, there are multiple reports i've just found which are all critical or high
[01:08] <mrkramps> xubuntu90w, you can switch to wicd if NM is currently to buggy
[01:09] <knome> please note that since wicd is not installed by default in xubuntu, it's likely that many people can't assist you with using it
[01:10] <Unit193> Not sure I'd switch to wicd if trying to avoid bugs, it's not the most maintained. It might be worth a shot to see if it works better, but nevertheless. There's also connman, which at least is more activly maintained (just not in Ubuntu.)
[01:11] <mrkramps> true :\
[01:11] <knome> yeah, and if it's a problem with the wifi drivers, i don't think changing the manager helps
[01:11] <Unit193> mrkramps: Someone did fix it so it'll actually launch in Xenial though!
[01:12] <mrkramps> goot to hear
[01:15] <xubuntu90w> I didn't know wicd is not receiving maintenance, thanks for the info
[01:16] <mrkramps> it is maintained
[01:16] <mrkramps> but not as actively as NM or connman
[01:17] <xubuntu90w> Ahh, it's OK
[01:17] <mrkramps> and on the other hand … it works
[01:17] <knome> networkmanager works as well
[01:17] <mrkramps> currently it does not for some users ;)
[01:17] <knome> i'm sure so doesn't wicd
[01:18] <mrkramps> yeah, probably
[03:19] <xubuntu51i> installation of xbunutu xenial crashes
[03:20] <function9x> system specs?
[03:20] <xubuntu51i> it crashes on the configuring time zone...
[03:21] <xubuntu51i> i7 6500ua laptop...
[03:21] <function9x> oh
[03:22] <xubuntu51i> here's the message "Installer crashed"
[03:22] <xubuntu51i> We're sorry; the installer crashed. After you close this window, we'll allow you to file a bug report using the integrated bug reporting tool. This will gather information about your system and your installation process. The details will be sent to our bug tracker and a developer will attend to the problem as soon as possible.
[03:23] <xubuntu51i> asus model F555U
[03:23] <xubuntu51i> Intel core i7-6500U
[03:24] <function9x> xubuntu51i: xenial is testing
[03:24] <function9x> xubuntu51i: is wily any better?
[03:25] <xubuntu51i> i already tried it and get the same...
[03:25] <xubuntu51i> i'm using ssd ocz vector 180...
[03:26] <xubuntu51i> is there any issues on the drive?
[03:26] <xubuntu51i> or probably the skylake...
[03:27] <function9x> xubuntu51i: best to file in a bug report, follow the procedure of the devs request to find out the cause
[03:28] <xubuntu51i> that's good idea... thank you...
[03:29] <xubuntu51i> got to go
[10:35] <nikolam> what is the alternative to catfish search.
[10:35] <nikolam> what do you use, except of find
[10:36] <frostie> is there a way to download all the wallpapers that has been in previous versions of xubuntu?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> frostie, yes. search packages ubuntu for xubuntu background
[10:37] <cfhowlett> backgrounds
[10:38] <frostie> found nothing?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> might be names wallpapers
[10:39] <frostie> when searching xubuntu wallpapers it only find the default wallpapers that comes with xubuntu but not the previous wallpapers
[10:40] <nikolam> also searching help.ubuntu.com does not work when one disables google.com javascripts. He treats xubuntu users as robots...
[10:40] <cfhowlett> frostie, you can change the distro search parameter
[10:41] <cfhowlett> frostie, better just search for "wallpapers" and get ALL the papers!
[10:41] <cfhowlett> bottom of the paget frostie http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wallpapers&searchon=names
[10:46] <frostie> thanks, but why is the 13.04 and 13.10 series missing?
[10:46] <nikolam> What seardh tool both for indexing and GUi do you use? I have an user complaining that search function in Xubuntu show only apps and not documents
[10:46] <nikolam> I recommended already present catfish but it could not find program icon by that name when seraching for apps (14.04)
[10:47] <nikolam> it now runs catfish but wonder what indexer/gui you use?
[10:48] <nikolam> tracker/beagle/recoll?
[10:50] <frostie> i mean like this: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/download-all-ubuntu-community.html <<< that is for Unity and not xubuntu
[10:50] <frostie> i thought the same thing would work with the xubuntu wallpapers
[11:14] <fod> Hello.
[11:14] <Guest34805> I'm on an old crappy laptop. For some reason running Xubuntu off the live cd worked great, but now that I've installed it to the hard disk, my display is locked at a tiny resolution. Can't seem to find a way to change it.
[11:15] <bekks> Guest34805: You need to install the correct graphics driver for your graphics card.
[11:16] <Guest34805> How do I go about doing that? And any guess as to why the live version detected it but the installation doesn't?
[11:17] <bekks> Guest34805: Which graohics card do you have?
[11:17] <Guest34805> Not a clue. Something old, crappy, and onboard.
[11:18] <bekks> So you need to find it out: sudo lshw -c video
[11:21] <Guest34805> How should I send you the output?
[11:21] <bekks> !pastebin | Guest34805
[11:23] <Guest34805> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13393245/
[11:25] <bekks> Guest34805: BAsically you are stuck with one of the most horrible graphics adapters ever.
[11:26] <Guest34805> Well, it matches the rest of the laptop.
[11:26] <Guest34805> Not planning on running Fallout 4 on here or something, just want it to browser the web and such.
[11:27] <Guest34805> It was displaying the proper resolution when I ran the OS live, like I said... But not it's not.
[11:27] <Guest34805> now*
[11:27] <Guest34805> So that tells me there is a proper driver/configuration, somewhere.
[11:29] <Guest34805> Also I dunno if this is of any help but engadget lists the gpu model as "SiS Mirage 2 Shared Video Memory"
[11:52] <sim642> Why is there no refresh button in the wifi networks list?
[15:14] <jlovesnyc> Need help going from windows 10 to ubuntu
[15:15] <cfhowlett> jlovesnyc, details?
[15:16] <jlovesnyc> I have iso on usb, how ever I cannot get cpu to boot from usb
[15:18] <egggs> how did u make usb ?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> !usb | jlovesnyc
[15:20] <jlovesnyc> copied iso file from dvd to usb drive
[15:20] <cfhowlett> jlovesnyc, wrong method. read the link. do it right and try again
[15:21] <RobertJDohnert> Whats he trying to do
[15:22] <jlovesnyc> I have the file on dvd drive, but I'm not seeing a booting option for that drive on boot options
[15:25] <cfhowlett> jlovesnyc, did you copy the .iso to the dvd?
[15:25] <RobertJDohnert> You have to write it to a USB drive you cant just copy. If you are on Windows use Unetbootin, if you already use Ubuntu or one of its derivative, ie Black Lab Linux, Linux Mint etc use the usb creator
[15:25] <jlovesnyc> i burned it onto the disc
[15:26] <RobertJDohnert> Thats where you screwed up
[15:26] <RobertJDohnert> You have to download the ISO and use Unetbootin or Startup Disk Creator with the ISO
[15:26] <egggs> on reboot or start you gotta go into boot options and tell pc to boot from dvd or ub
[15:27] <egggs> usb*
[15:27] <RobertJDohnert> eggs he burned the ISO to a DVD, just copying it to usb will not make the USB drive bootable
[15:28] <egggs> if its burned to a dvd it should boot from dvd , yeah usb wont work until its installed right
[15:29] <egggs> but must tell bios either way to boot from other device
[15:29] <jlovesnyc> bios not giving me dvd or cd option
[15:30] <egggs> in other words skip the usb if u got the dvd burned
[15:30] <jlovesnyc> I'm over the usb, but how do I tell windows 10 to boot from dvd
[15:31] <egggs> its most likely there , too many bios sometimes its esc , f2 f8
[15:31] <RobertJDohnert> How olds the computer
[15:31] <egggs> look up your pc motherboard and see if u can find bios options
[15:32] <jlovesnyc> compuer is from 2013
[15:32] <RobertJDohnert> What brand?
[15:32] <jlovesnyc> dell inspiron
[15:33] <RobertJDohnert> It should be F12 to boot from Removable media
[15:33] <RobertJDohnert> Last Dell I had thats what it was
[15:34] <jlovesnyc> f2 gives me boot options
[15:34] <jlovesnyc> there are ~5 options and neither says dvd/cd
[15:34] <RobertJDohnert> What do they say
[15:34] <RobertJDohnert> What are the 5 options
[15:34] <jlovesnyc> i get, uefi, usb, nic,
[15:35] <jlovesnyc> forgot the others
[15:35] <RobertJDohnert> You got UEFI enabled?
[15:35] <jlovesnyc> def not dvd or cd
[15:35] <jlovesnyc> yes
[15:36] <cfhowlett> !uefi | jlovesnyc
[15:36] <egggs> man i love that bot lol
[15:36] <RobertJDohnert> I always disable Secureboot
[15:37] <jlovesnyc> more links...ahh
[15:37] <egggs> hey i got one for you guys, on xubuntu 14.04 i cant get the default web browser to stick to chromioum or slimjet
[15:38] <jlovesnyc> thanks for the time linux community
[15:39] <egggs> setting it in the gui part never stays , always defaults back to firegox
[15:39] <egggs> firefox
[15:41] <mrkramps> egggs:$ update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[15:42] <egggs> ty
[17:35] <adam__> can someone help me with something?
[17:36] <mrkramps> Guest27047, if you ask a question maybe someone will know the answer
[17:36] <Guest27047> how can I get rid of the title bar in opera?
[17:42] <nikolam> bah, xfce4-power-man survives killall -u username
[17:43] <nikolam> previously on same machine, I could not shitch user in X sesion after I switched it once.
[17:43] <nikolam> 14.04 64bit, updated
[17:44] <nikolam> and yes, old sshd also survived killall
[17:46] <adam444> How can I get rid of the title bar in opera?
[18:08] <nikolam> How you propose ond if I also install other desktop environments in Xubuntu, to let user decide what/he she likes the most and to be able to get back to previous state where there is only xfce in xubuntu and all set up?
[18:09] <nikolam> Using Btrfs snapshot? (apt-btrfs-snapshot?)
[18:11] <egggs> what about live cd and see if u like it instead of back ups
[18:12] <nikolam> hmm, user is remotely on xubuntu and I think it couldn't make an cd/dvd that easy by himself. Selecting other DE on login is preferrable
[18:12] <nikolam> I woudl like to keep xubuntu way of logging things abd to get back to state when only xfce is there
[18:13] <nikolam> What free dynamic DNS service you use, anyway, to be able to always acces to remote host by ssh?
[18:13] <egggs> aww thats beyond me, everytime i try a different de on my system something conflicts but im not real strong at linux yet
[18:14] <nikolam> I am thinking that only way one can make that is to always connect via some VPN to third server and to expose interface for ssh login through that interface
[18:14] <nikolam> yeah, I fear of conflicts and that different DEs bring also their services etc
[18:15] <nikolam> That's why I am thinking keeping BTRFS snapshot of current state is maybe best solution
[18:15] <adam444> how can I get rid of the title bar in opera?
[18:16] <nikolam> e.g. installing apt-btrfs-snapshot for it ot make it automatiaclly, just before starting to mess around
[18:16] <nikolam> opera is not part of xubuntu. I haven't ride an opera in a while, because trere are open firefox, seamonkey and chromium
[18:17] <nikolam> adam444, try also seamonkey it's old-school but keeps up with newer core parts, while configurable (with less adailable addons then firefox that is)
[18:17] <nikolam> opera is as I know re badged chromium..
[18:25] <spicypixel> is xubuntu-core getting a 15.10 iso?
[18:45] <krytarik> spicypixel: They are already there: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/
[18:46] <spicypixel> oh cool
[19:45] <quechon> hello
[19:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> quechon, hello: do you have a question? :-)
[19:47] <quechon> http://pastebin.com/D6ZLyZQh
[19:47] <quechon> how to fix this
[19:49] <quechon> im trying to build a scantool software
[19:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> This doesn't look like an Xubuntu issue....
[19:50] <quechon> decided to come here cuz i was running xubuntu thats why
[19:51] <quechon> do you know where to go to ask for help
[19:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> quechon, Idk... is it somebody's project, or your own?
[19:52] <quechon> somebody
[19:53] <quechon> but not maintain anymore
[19:53] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Point me to it.
[19:56] <quechon> https://github.com/jantman/scantool.net
[20:04] <linuxr> Hi all...I just experienced a full system freeze....is there any way to find out why post-mortem?
[20:09] <egggs> sorry i dont know but its gotta be in some logs somewhere
[20:09] <egggs> might try in ubuntu channel
[20:50] <xubuntu78w> hello
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-uk
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[06:29] <mapps> hi all
[07:33] <mapps> ;]
[10:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[15:32] * zmoylan-pi hugs cup of coffee for warmth...
[15:36] <bittin_> http://i.imgur.com/KiL8VpZ.png WIP
[15:58] <Bob_8732> @search jamie oliver
[15:59] <zmoylan-pi> oO
[16:12] <brobostigon> https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/3tlgsb/early_demo_of_pebble_ubuntu_phone_integration/ :)
[16:24] <tripleclones> has anyone had any joy getting block n load to run in steam/wine?
[20:57] <daftykins> tripleclones: consulted the appdb?
[20:58] <mapps> :D
[20:58] <mapps> hi
[20:58] <tripleclones> daftykins: yes only found one reference by someone who says he uses SteamCMD but I'm having no joy
[20:59] <tripleclones> other games in Windows steam working fine just this one :(
[21:01] <daftykins> first world problems :)
[21:01] <daftykins> mapps: lo \o
[21:01] <mapps> hello]
[21:01] <mapps> is not so nice here atm
[21:01] <mapps> big dark cloud
[21:01] <daftykins> down in paradise!?
[21:02] <mapps> i guess;p
[21:03] <penguin42> clear and cold here, it's been dark and rainy most of the week
[21:04] <daftykins> my bedroom, up in the uninsulated roof, is down to 14 deg C
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-jp
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[06:48] <anonymous_tails> konnichiwa minna-san..
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.067341
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-de
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[00:00] <koegs> Pixelbyte: woran liest du das ab?
[00:00] <Pixelbyte> ich war der meinung das youtube video html5 ist
[00:00] <Pixelbyte> naja nach dem start mal free -m gemacht
[00:00] <k1l_> Pixelbyte: nicht ubuntu alleine.
[00:01] <Pixelbyte> ich sehe das als komplett packet
[00:01] <k1l_> :/
[00:01] <Pixelbyte> warscheinlich ist es die unyti oder ramdisk
[00:01] <k1l_> ubuntu kann nichts dafür, dass du da nen dicken firefox mit flash und co an hast.
[00:01] <Pixelbyte> mom
[00:02] <Pixelbyte> ich komm gleich wieder
[00:02] <koegs> Nimmt tmpfs nicht default 50%?
[00:02] <k1l_> ich hatte unity auf dem netbook mit 1 oder 2GB ram laufen. wie erklärst du denn dann das?
[00:03] <koegs> 8sec zu spät :(
[00:04] <Pixelbyte> so habe mal firefox aus gemacht und mit chromium trin
[00:05] <Pixelbyte> neu werte free -m : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378918/
[00:05] <k1l_> welches ubuntu ist das genau?
[00:06] <Pixelbyte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13378965/
[00:06] <Pixelbyte> ubuntu 15.10
[00:06] <Pixelbyte> der andere link ist top
[00:07] <k1l_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379003/ ubuntu 15.10 mit chromium, firefox, thunderbird und noch vlc mit dvbt offen
[00:07] <k1l_> also, wieviele 100 tabs hast du da offen?
[00:08] <Pixelbyte> es ist nur im mom chromium mit drei tabs offen
[00:09] <k1l_> wenn du top aufmachst und dann shift+m drückst sortiert er nach ram gebraucht
[00:10] <Pixelbyte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379142/
[00:10] <Pixelbyte> habe das mal gemacht
[00:11] <k1l_> hast du verschlüsselt?
[00:12] <Pixelbyte> kann mich nicht ensinnen
[00:14] <Pixelbyte> kann es sein das ubuntu in einer vram leuft
[00:14] <Pixelbyte> äh ram disk
[00:14] <k1l_> jo, ubuntu nutzt tmpfs als standard
[00:15] <Pixelbyte> ich habe ne ssd
[00:15] <Pixelbyte> kann man das ausschalten
[00:15] <k1l_> kann sein, dass das schon 50% frisst. ich weiß nicht was da der standard ist
[00:15] <Pixelbyte> ok
[00:16] <Pixelbyte> dann will ich abschalten
[00:16] <k1l_> in die fstab gucken
[00:22] <Pixelbyte> da steht nix besonderes trin
[00:24] <Pixelbyte> http://pastebin.com/CN3HvYV4
[00:27] <nagetier> df -h sagt dir was /tmp derzeit nutzt
[00:28] <nagetier> hier sind auch 50% RAM eingestellt.. aber nur n Bruchteil genutzt
[00:30] <mrkramps> an tmpfs kann das nur liegen, wenn für /tmp genutzt und das tatsächlich vollgelaufen ist
[00:32] <Pixelbyte> http://pastebin.com/xBkzbQEd
[00:33] <Pixelbyte> wenn ich das jetzt richtig deute dann liegst nicht daran das ist es unity
[00:36] <mrkramps> da sind fast 6GB an shared memory zugewiesen
[00:36] <mrkramps> wofür?
[00:36] <Pixelbyte> welcher?
[00:36] <Pixelbyte> meinst udev
[00:36] <mrkramps> /dev/shm
[00:36] <nagetier> mrkramps, stimmt, das könnte es doch sein
[00:36] <nagetier> wird der nicht auch bei nicht-benutzung reserviert?
[00:36] <ppq> Pixelbyte, ?
[00:36] <mrkramps> nagetier, das weiß ich gerade nicht
[00:37] <mrkramps> aber da es auch tmpfs ist, sollte das eigentlich nicht sein
[00:37] <Pixelbyte> ppq es leuft mit pci passthrough
[00:37] <ppq> ui
[00:37] <ppq> gib mir die kurzfassung ;)
[00:37] <nagetier> mrkramps, hm, dürfte nicht sein, hier sind ebenfalls 50% RAM eingestellt.. werden aber nicht als belegt ausgegeben
[00:37] <Pixelbyte> gleich
[00:38] <Pixelbyte> wie werde ich das jetzt los
[00:39] <mrkramps> wir sollten erst klären, wie das da hingekommen ist
[00:39] <Pixelbyte> ich habe vor einer woche ubuntu auf gesetzt weil von windows gewechselt bin
[00:39] <nagetier> mrkramps, wie gesagt, shm nutzt hier auch 2GB (50%) .. RAM ist aber verfügbar
[00:40] <Pixelbyte> ich habe kaum erfahrung
[00:40] <Pixelbyte> ich brauch mindestens noch 5 gb
[00:40] <Pixelbyte> ram
[00:40] <mrkramps> nagetier, ich greif nur nach strohhalmen
[00:41] <mrkramps> der df ausgabe nac dürfte bei ihm eigentlich nichts an RAM belegt sein
[00:41] <nagetier> dan kannst wohl wieder loslassen :)
[00:41] <nagetier> *den
[00:41] <mrkramps> also durch tmpfs
[00:42] <mrkramps> mir ist gerade auch nicht ganz klar, was das cgmfs da macht oO
[00:43] <Pixelbyte> gibs ein tool wo man genau sehen kann welche programm wie viel ram benutzt
[00:43] <mrkramps> Pixelbyte, das hast du mit top gerade schon ausgeführt
[00:45] <mrkramps> läuft das da alle sin einem container?
[00:45] <Pixelbyte> wie meinst du container
[00:46] <ppq> nagetier, hihi
[00:46] <mrkramps> cmfs, cgroup und cgmanager werden afaik nur in kombination mit LXC verwendet
[00:46] <nagetier> ppq, wasn?
[00:46] <nagetier> :)
[00:46] <ppq> den strohalm loslassen :3
[00:46] <nagetier> hehe
[00:46] <Pixelbyte> könntes es daher kommen das libvirtd installiert habe für mein vms
[00:47] <mrkramps> Pixelbyte, liegt im bereich des möglichen
[00:47] * nagetier würde die Kiste mal ohne GUI starten .. nur um auszuschließen
[00:47] <mrkramps> ggf. werden wegen diesen virtualisierungen auch speicherbereiche reserviert
[00:48] <Pixelbyte> hm könnte ich mal machen
[00:48] <k1l_> Pixelbyte: was passiert denn, wenn du eine vm startest?
[00:48] <Pixelbyte> das mit der gui
[00:49] <mrkramps> Pixelbyte, und wenn sich ohne gui das gleiche bild ergibt, dann versuch den speicher mal volllaufen zu lassen
[00:49] <mrkramps> bzw. start einfach eine virtuelle maschine
[00:49] <Pixelbyte> also wenn ich die vm mit der verfügbaren ram menge start ganz normal
[00:49] <nagetier> ist ja Freitag!
[00:49] <Pixelbyte> wenn ich jetzt aber 6gb zuweisen willst schmeist er scih weg und alles stop
[00:50] <mrkramps> vielleicht steht dem einfach nicht mehr zur verfügung?
[00:50] <mrkramps> aber wir raten hier auch nur rum
[00:50] <Pixelbyte> ja das habe ich auch verstanden deswegen ja die frage
[00:51] <Pixelbyte> ich start mal ne fm
[00:51] <Pixelbyte> vm*
[00:51] <Pixelbyte> am besten die pci passthrough
[00:51] <mgolisch> pci passthrough?
[00:52] <Pixelbyte> grafikkarte durch gereicht
[00:53] <nagetier> denke 'ps' könnte helfen.. aber ich bin zu unfähig den/die passenden parameter zu finden
[00:53] <Pixelbyte> so dann schick ich noch mal ein top
[00:54] <Pixelbyte> http://pastebin.com/NLWJeUYS
[00:56] <nagetier> Pixelbyte, das hilft nicht weiter
[00:56] <Pixelbyte> sag mir was du willst
[00:56] <mrkramps> sry, ich bin hier raus. virtualisierungslösungen versteh ich zu wenig von
[00:56] <nagetier> ich selber bin überfragt.. hab bitte Geduld
[00:57] <mgolisch> und das ist nach speicher sortiert?
[00:57] <Pixelbyte> df -h unverändert
[00:57] <nagetier> Pixelbyte, was k1l_ sagte..
[00:58] <nagetier> <k1l_> wenn du top aufmachst und dann shift+m drückst sortiert er nach ram gebraucht
[00:58] <Pixelbyte> http://pastebin.com/DKFbaZme
[00:59] <Pixelbyte> es geht ja nicht direkt um die vm
[00:59] <nagetier> ja, die Ausgabe hilft nicht weiter
[00:59] <mgolisch> ist auch nicht nach speicher sortiert..
[00:59] <Pixelbyte> ich will nur aus ubuntu mehr ram raus kitzeln damit ich dem der vm zuweisen kann
[01:00] <nagetier> Pixelbyte, dein Ubuntu benötigt afair keine 1GB
[01:00] <Pixelbyte> ich habe aber nach shift-m sortiert
[01:00] <nagetier> -dein
[01:01] <mgolisch> mach mal shift+f dann auf mit pfeiltasten und dann s drücken und dann q
[01:01] <mgolisch> auf mem
[01:01] <Pixelbyte> bei top
[01:01] <mgolisch> ja
[01:03] <Pixelbyte> http://pastebin.com/x2HDXVWg
[01:04] <nagetier> mgolisch, strg-m macht hier genau das gewünschte.. oder irre ich?
[01:05] <mgolisch> hm das hilft auch nicht wirklich..
[01:05] <mgolisch> :)
[01:06] <Pixelbyte> dein Ubuntu benötigt afair keine 1GB bitte erleutere das, ist das ironisch?
[01:06] <nagetier> ne, ein frisch aufgesetztes Ubuntu benötigt keine, oder knapp über 1GB
[01:07] <Pixelbyte> ok ich werde jetzt noch mal neu starten und alles aus lassen aus irc client
[01:07] <nagetier> sehr gut
[01:07] <Pixelbyte> könnt ihr ein empfelen schreib gerade über browser
[01:08] <nagetier> hexchat
[01:08] <nagetier> aber das benötigt ein zwei einstellungen
[01:09] <nagetier> Pixelbyte, den Browser kannst ruhig öffnen.. der wird es nicht sein, jedenfalls der < 300Tabs
[01:09] <ppq> Pixelbyte, hexchat
[01:12] <pixelbyte_> hallo
[01:12] <pixelbyte_> restart
[01:14] <pixelbyte> so da bin ich wieder
[01:16] <nagetier> pixelbyte, free -m bitte
[01:17] <pixelbyte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13381000/
[01:18] <nagetier> hm..
[01:18] <mgolisch> hast du irgendwas krasses installiert?
[01:18] <pixelbyte> irc und cromium mit 2taps offen
[01:18] <nagetier> :)
[01:20] <mgolisch> was hast du denn alles installiert? ausser libvirt/kvm?
[01:20] <pixelbyte> hm vm, steam, PlayOnLinux,
[01:20] <pixelbyte> überlege gerade
[01:21] <mgolisch> irgendwelche krassen kernel installiert?
[01:21] <pixelbyte> nvidia treiber
[01:21] <pixelbyte> da habe ich die finger weg gelassen
[01:21] <pixelbyte> denke ich mal
[01:21] <nagetier> pixelbyte, ist dir bekannt wie die Kernelbootzeile in Grub zu behandeln ist? .. setze dort ein 'text' ein, und boote das System somit im Textmode, dort dann wieder free ausführen und gucken ob sich das anders gibt
[01:21] <pixelbyte> grub ein wenig verändert
[01:25] <pixelbyte> ok restarte
[01:37] <pixelbyte> ich habes leider nicht geschaft in text mode zu kommen
[01:37] <pixelbyte> sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[01:38] <pixelbyte> und dort die default aus geklammert
[01:39] <pixelbyte> dann unten text rein und weiter unten auf grubterminal console aber ich kommen immer wieder auf dem destop
[01:40] <pixelbyte> natürlich habe ich auch sudo update-grub
[01:40] <pixelbyte> gemacht
[01:40] <nagetier> pixelbyte, setzt in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= ein 'text' ein, entweder alleing oder hinter den vorhandenen.. ansonsten hattest das schon richtig gemacht
[01:41] <nagetier> geht auch weniger umständlich, aber so ist schon ok
[01:58] <pixelbyte> hatte wieder kein glück ich kommen nicht in den text mode
[01:58] <pixelbyte> ich habe mal im rescu mode shell auf gemacht
[01:59] <pixelbyte> da stadt 6gb
[01:59] <pixelbyte> stand*
[01:59] <pixelbyte> nagetier:
[02:00] <nagetier> ja, ok ..das ist auch ok.. oder halt nicht, kA wo dein RAM hin ist
[02:00] <nagetier> pixelbyte, ich persönlich bin da leider überfragt
[02:00] <pixelbyte> noch mal neu installieren?
[02:01] <nagetier> unschön, das musst du wissen
[02:02] <pixelbyte> ich brauch halt mehr arbeitspeicher für die vm
[02:02] <pixelbyte> was ist den bei dir wenn du neustartes an gb verbrauch
[02:03] <nagetier> pixelbyte, in der Konsole keine 200MB
[02:05] <nagetier> ansonsten in der GUI weit unter 1GB, nutze hier allerdings kein Unity, sondern Xfce
[02:05] <pixelbyte> ich glaub ich kuck mir mal Xfce
[02:05] <pixelbyte> das ist blödsin
[02:05] <mgolisch> das muss an was anderem liegen
[02:05] <nagetier> wenn du RAm einsparen willst wäre das eine gute Option, würde ich auch vorschlagen.. du kannst ja auch beides parallel nutzen
[02:06] <nagetier> mgolisch, sehe ich auch so
[02:07] <nagetier> pixelbyte, könntest mal deine Kernelbootzeile posten.. sende mal ein dmesg
[02:08] <pixelbyte> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13382510/
[02:22] <nagetier> pixelbyte, ich bin da raus, komme nicht weiter.. musst du wissen, wenn dir in den nächsten Minuten keiner helfen kann, könntest später nochmal fragen, wenn hier mehr los ist, oder halt bis dahin nochmal installieren
[02:23] <pixelbyte> ok danke dir nagetier
[02:23] <nagetier> ne, nicht dafür
[02:24] <nagetier> bin selber gespannt was da los ist.. berichte dann bitte mal
[02:24] <nagetier> es wird sich jedenfalls lösen, so oder so ;)
[02:32] <pixelbyte> warte mal nagetier
[02:32] <pixelbyte> habe mal system überwachung auf gemacht
[02:32] <nagetier> ja
[02:33] <pixelbyte> das kommt hin mit 1gb
[02:33] <pixelbyte> was offen ist
[02:35] <nagetier> free ist eigentlich schon sehr aussagekräftig, und das sich deine vm weigert zu starten, wenn du mehr als 6GB verwendest.. das ist so nicht ok
[02:35] <pixelbyte> wie musste df -h eigenlich aussehen
[02:36] <nagetier> das ist von system zu system unterschiedlich.. aber das was wir da sahen, war imo schon richtig
[02:37] <pixelbyte> also im mom sind 6gb ram lost im space xD
[02:38] <nagetier> ja, warum auch immer.. ist mir so auch noch nicht untergekommen.. oder dem kernel wird halt zusätzlich speicher mitgegeben, was sich ggf. aus der Kernelzeile hätte zeigen können
[02:39] <pixelbyte> das ja schlimmer wie bei windows xD
[02:39] <nagetier> nene
[02:39] <nagetier> schlimmer als unter windows ist nichts
[02:39] <pixelbyte> ja weil du dort nichts machen kannst
[02:40] <pixelbyte> o/ mgolisch
[02:40] <pixelbyte> o/ mrkramps
[02:40] <pixelbyte> das sind 6gb eine ramdisk
[02:40] <nagetier> ich bin auch weg, gute Nacht
[02:41] <pixelbyte> gut nacht
[06:25] <helrett> test
[11:04] <dreamon> Verwende Xubuntu. Gibt es dort einen richtigen Ruhezustand? Es wird nur Bereitschaft, Herrunterfahren, Neustart angezeigt.
[11:07] <leszek> dreamon: meines Wissens ist der "Ruhezustand" also Standby to Disk standardmäßig wegen UEFI Secure Boot deaktiviert
[11:10] <dreamon> leszek, Oh.. ist das nur bei xubuntu so?
[11:10] <leszek> soweit ich weiß ist das überall so
[11:11] <leszek> man kann das aber sicherlich irgendwie wieder aktivieren. Ich hab nur auf Anhieb keinen plan wo.
[11:33] <martin05112015> servus
[11:34] <martin05112015> kann mir mal jemand helfen habe irgendwie ein Problem mit meinen grafikkartentreiber unter ubuntu also installiert sind sie aber habe immer so ein schlieren im bild zb beim fenster verschieben
[11:35] <bekks> kannstdumalbitteInterpunktionverwendendaskannmansonstsosauschwerlesendanke
[11:35] <martin05112015> sry
[11:37] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Welches Ubuntu? Welche Grafikarte? Welcher Treiber?
[11:39] <jokrebel> ach ... und welche Desktop-Oberfläche?
[11:42] <martin05112015> also Grafikkarte ist eine Nvidia 540m. Treiber sind die 352.63
[11:42] <martin05112015> habe Ubuntu 14.04.3
[11:45] <martin05112015> habe schon mehrere Treiber ausprobiert, überall das selbe Problem.
[11:47] <bekks> Welche Treiber, wie installiert?
[11:48] <martin05112015> bei zusätzliche Treiber
[11:54] <martin05112015> sry akku war leer ^^
[11:54] <martin05112015> vom laptop
[11:55] <martin05112015> hat da jemand eine Lösung für mich ??
[11:57] <dadrc> aufladen soll helfen *hust*
[11:57] <martin05112015> haha
[11:57] <bekks> martin05112015: Das hier kannst du mal probieren: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1278012/comments/12
[11:57] <martin05112015> ne ich meinte jetzt wegen mein Problem mit den Grafiktreibern
[11:59] <martin05112015> Bei mir fehlt der -bs
[11:59] <bekks> Natürlich.
[11:59] <bekks> Deswegen sagt der Kommentar ja auch, man möge ihn hinzufügen und gucken ob das Problem damit behoben wird.
[12:00] <martin05112015> ich habe keine Ahnung wie ich das einfügen muss. Bin neu bei Ubuntu
[12:00] <bekks> Mit einem Texteditor :)
[12:01] <martin05112015> achso
[12:01] <bekks> Naja, du hast doch in die Datei reingeguckt :)
[12:01] <martin05112015> ja bin ja im Terminal
[12:01] <bekks> Macht nichts.
[12:01] <bekks> Auch da gibt ed Editoren.
[12:01] <martin05112015> ok
[12:06] <dadrc> Wobei ed eher nichts für Anfänger ist. nano ist wahrscheinlich am einfachsten
[12:07] <martin05112015> wie kriege ich die Datei über das Terminal editiert ?? kriege es nicht hin. Habe gksudo installiert
[12:07] <martin05112015> nano ??
[12:07] <bekks> sudo nano
[12:08] <martin05112015> ok
[12:09] <martin05112015> habe ich aber wie komme ich zu der Datei??
[12:09] <bekks> Naja, wie hst du denn reingeguckt?
[12:09] <jokrebel> sudo nano /pfad/zur/datei
[12:09] <bekks> Wenn du nicht mal weisst wo sie ist?
[12:11] <martin05112015> habe ich aber da steht dann nichts im nano drin
[12:11] <bekks> Dann hast du das nicht.
[12:11] <bekks> Also, in welche datei hast du vorhin reingeguckt?
[12:11] <martin05112015> sudo nano cat /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf
[12:12] <martin05112015> das habe ich im Terminal eingegeben.
[12:12] <bekks> sudo nano, nicht sudo nano cat
[12:12] <martin05112015> ohh
[12:12] <martin05112015> mein Fehler
[12:13] <martin05112015> habe ich
[12:13] <martin05112015> wie Speicher ich das jetzt ??
[12:14] <bekks> So wie das am unteren Bildschirmrand steht.
[12:14] <ppq> steht unten: STRG+O
[12:14] <martin05112015> da steht ^0
[12:14] <ppq> joa, das steht für strg+O
[12:14] <ppq> O, nicht null.
[12:15] <ppq> muss kein großes O sein, kleines geht auch.
[12:15] <martin05112015> ok habe ich
[12:17] <martin05112015> merke nichts oder muss ich mich Abmelden
[12:17] <martin05112015> ??
[12:18] <bekks> Du musst neustarten.
[12:18] <martin05112015> ok
[12:18] <ppq> bei änderungen an X muss man prinzipiell X neu starten, dafür reicht es auch, den DM neu zu starten: sudo restart lightdm
[12:19] <ppq> *schulterzuck*
[12:20] <martin05112015> hat nicht Funktioniert
[12:21] <martin05112015> das Schlieren ist immer noch da.
[12:22] <bekks> martin05112015: mach doch mal dies hier: cat /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xserver-command.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:22] <bekks> Und gib uns dann die URL.
[12:22] <martin05112015> oki
[12:23] <leszek> gibts einen automatischen kernel säubern dienst irgendwo für ubuntu ?
[12:23] <bekks> Nein.
[12:24] <bekks> Aber es gibt purge-old-kernels aus dem Paket bikeshed.
[12:24] <maredebianum1> leszek: dist-upgrade oder apt-get autoremove oder was meinst du mit aufräumen?
[12:24] <leszek> jo ok das kenne ich auch. Ist aber für meinen Anwendungsfall bisschen blöd
[12:24] <bekks> leszek: Welchen Anwendungsfall hast du denn, dass du kein cron benutzen kannst?
[12:24] <leszek> maredebianum1: alte kernel löschen. Wenn /boot volläuft auf einem verschlüsselten System will der updater nicht mehr
[12:25] <martin05112015> http://pastebin.com/tbpW42SG
[12:25] <leszek> Problem ist, das ich nicht vor der Kiste sitzt, sondern jemand der keine Ahnung davon hat
[12:25] <bekks> martin05112015: Das ist keine termbin URL :P
[12:25] <martin05112015> schlimm ??
[12:25] <bekks> leszek: Dann nimm purge-old-kernels und cron.
[12:26] <maredebianum1> leszek: jo, kommt mir bekannt vor, vor allem von der server variante. konnte da ab und an 5G alte Kernel wegräumen aus /
[12:26] <leszek> bekks: purge-old-kernels braucht root ? Hmm...
[12:26] <bekks> martin05112015: Ja, weil du nicht das eingetippt hast was man Dir gesagt hat.
[12:26] <martin05112015> mhh
[12:26] <bekks> leszek: root hat eine crontab. Und apt-get braucht auch root.
[12:26] <martin05112015> sry
[12:26] <martin05112015> http://termbin.com/svgr
[12:26] <leszek> ja ja. Ich überlege nur wie ich das am besten in eine distro haue. contab.d gibts doch als ordner ?
[12:26] <martin05112015> so besser
[12:26] <martin05112015> ?
[12:27] <bekks> martin05112015: Ja. :)
[12:27] <bekks> leszek: sudo crontab -e :)
[12:27] <martin05112015> ja ich bin Lernfähig ^
[12:28] <bekks> leszek: Oder /etc/cron.weekly/
[12:28] <leszek> bekks: naja cron wäre beinahe perfekt. Wenn jetzt gerade der purge läuft und der rechner aber heruntergefahren werden soll wird der cronjob einfach gekillt und du hast nen kaputtes dpkg
[12:28] <leszek> deshalb wäre es als systemd dienst schon besster
[12:28] <leszek> *besser
[12:28] <bekks> leszek: Dann setz anacron ein, und mach das direkt nach dem Hochfahren.
[12:29] <ppq> wenn man eh einen einfachen befehl dafür hat, würd ichs ja weiterhin manuell machen... wie updates auch
[12:30] <martin05112015> und was kannst du jetzt der datei entnehmen ??
[12:30] <bekks> martin05112015: Dass du sie richtig editiert hast.
[12:30] <martin05112015> gibt es eigentlich für ubuntu so etwas wie bei windows sowas wie team-viewer ??
[12:30] <bekks> Es gibt sogar Teamviewer unter Linux.
[12:30] <martin05112015> ohhh
[12:30] <leszek> martin05112015: vnc ? Ansonsten nimm Teamviewer
[12:30] <bekks> Aber das verwendet niemand den ich kenne.
[12:31] <martin05112015> cool
[12:31] <bekks> Unter Linux benutzt man üblicherweise SSH um auf andere Rechner zuzugreifen.
[12:31] <martin05112015> ssh ??
[12:31] <bekks> Ja, SSH.
[12:31] <martin05112015> was ist das
[12:32] <bekks> martin05112015: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SSH
[12:32] <martin05112015> danke
[12:32] <martin05112015> und wieso benutzt keiner team viewer ??
[12:33] <bekks> Weil jeder SSH benutzt.
[12:33] <martin05112015> ok
[12:33] <maredebianum1> bekks: wie geht das mit purge-old-kernels genau?
[12:34] <bekks> maredebianum1: sudo apt-get install bikeshed; sudo purge-old-kernels;
[12:34] <martin05112015> und mit meiner Datei alles ok ??
[12:34] <bekks> martin05112015: Ja, sagte ich ja bereits.
[12:34] <martin05112015> ohh
[12:34] <martin05112015> und woran hängt das jetzt ??
[12:34] <martin05112015> das schlieren ??
[12:34] <martin05112015> das nervt
[12:35] <ppq> martin05112015, ich habe den anfang nicht mitbekommen. du hast ne nvidia, nutzt den proprietären treiber und hast tearing?
[12:35] <martin05112015> ja
[12:36] <ppq> martin05112015, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[12:36] <ppq> sowas?
[12:36] <martin05112015> mom
[12:36] <martin05112015> richtig
[12:37] <ppq> martin05112015, pack mal die ausgabe von "xrandr" in einen pastebin
[12:37] <martin05112015> oki
[12:38] <martin05112015> http://pastebin.com/Q9kAUFX4
[12:38] <maredebianum1> bekks: in bikeshed ist das nicht drin.... ach doch, aber nicht unter 12.04. Und das hat ja ne Menge dependencies
[12:39] <ppq> martin05112015, und das problem tritt beim normalen notebook display auf?
[12:39] <martin05112015> jop
[12:39] <ppq> martin05112015, führ mal dies aus und teste es (ohne neustart!) direkt nochmal, mit nem tearing test video: nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="LVDS1: nvidia-auto-select { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }"
[12:39] <bekks> maredebianum1: Richtig, unter 12.04 gibt es das nicht.
[12:40] <ppq> martin05112015, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceX18O9pvLs
[12:40] <maredebianum1> bekks: schade, finde ich ja praktisch. Also doch händisch aufräumen...
[12:41] <bekks> maredebianum1: Oder mal auf 14.04 updaten.
[12:43] <maredebianum1> bekks: 14.04 ist unter vmware esx nicht offiziell unterstützt (funktioniert trotzdem ;)
[12:43] <bekks> What?
[12:43] <maredebianum1> bekks: ja das dauert immer ein paar Jahre, bis da mal was offiziell unterstützt ist...
[12:44] <bekks> maredebianum1: Bullshit.
[12:44] <bekks> Schau Dir http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=software an
[12:44] <bekks> Das ist völlig offiziell unterstützt.
[12:44] <bekks> Es sei denn, du hast einen steinalten ESX da.
[12:45] <martin05112015> wie mache ich das was du mir geschrieben hast ppq??
[12:45] <ppq> martin05112015, führ den befehl aus, der mit nvidia-settings beginnt
[12:45] <martin05112015> ok
[12:45] <maredebianum1> bekks: möglich, ist schon ne Weile her, dass ich geschaut habe, und da war es bereits alt.
[12:45] <ppq> martin05112015, danach spielst du das tearing test video im vollbild ab und schaust ob das problem noch besteht
[12:45] <bekks> maredebianum1: Dann solltest du wohl mal dein ESX updaten. :P
[12:45] <martin05112015> habe ich
[12:47] <martin05112015> und wenn ich das Video abspiele ist immer noch tearing vorhanden
[12:47] <maredebianum1> bekks: das ist leider nicht meins, habe da nur VMs
[12:48] <ppq> martin05112015, ist nach dem ausführen des befehls der bildschirm kurz schwarz geworden?
[12:48] <martin05112015> ne
[12:49] <martin05112015> sollte er ??
[12:49] <ppq> ja
[12:49] <martin05112015> ist nichts passiert
[12:51] <martin05112015> und nun ??
[12:55] <martin05112015> ???
[12:55] <ppq> ich teste mal kurz was, brb
[12:55] <martin05112015> oki
[13:01] <martin05112015> ppq sollen wir ssh benutzen ??
[13:02] <jokrebel> wer ist wir? "Euer Majestät"?
[13:03] <jokrebel> *duck*
[13:03] <ppq> martin05112015, speicher folgendes als neue datei /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf ab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13395237/
[13:03] <martin05112015> wie geht das ?? sry
[13:04] <ppq> sudo nano /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-nvidia.conf
[13:04] <martin05112015> ok
[13:04] <ppq> text einfügen mit strg+shift+v
[13:04] <ppq> speichern mit strg+o
[13:05] <martin05112015> habe ich da steht 0 zeilen geschrieben
[13:05] <martin05112015> text vergessen ^^
[13:05] <martin05112015> oweia
[13:05] <martin05112015> ^^
[13:05] <ppq> *kopfschüttel*
[13:06] <martin05112015> habe ich
[13:06] <martin05112015> sry nicht viel geschlafen die letzten tage
[13:06] <ppq> wenn du das fertig hast: alt+F2 drücken, nvidia-settings eingeben, enter. dann unter openGL settings den haken bei "sync to vblank" setzen
[13:07] <martin05112015> habe ich
[13:07] <ppq> dann nvidia-settings beenden und mit folgendem befehl X neu starten: sudo service lightdm restart
[13:07] <ppq> dann nochmal das tearing test video laufen lassen
[13:10] <martin05112015> immer noch da das tearing
[13:11] <martin05112015> also ich habe x neugestartet, das problem oben links war immer ein blinkender strich, und da ging nichts also ist nichts passiert
[13:12] <martin05112015> dann habe ich strg+alt+entf gedrückt dann hat er einen pc neustart gemacht
[13:14] <martin05112015> ppq ssh benutzen ??
[13:18] <martin05112015> noch da ppq ???
[13:20] <ppq> ich bin noch da
[13:20] <ppq> aber wenn das nix gebracht hat, weiß ich auch nicht weiter
[13:20] <ppq> bei mir haben alle drei maßnahmen sogar einzeln geholfen gegen das tearing
[13:21] <martin05112015> mist
[13:21] <martin05112015> woran liegt denn das ??
[13:21] <martin05112015> welche treiber verwendest du denn ??
[13:26] <ppq> nvidia-352
[13:42] <olli_> hallo! Meine 14.04 will seit gestern nicht mehr ins Internet. Gnome -> Systemeinstellungen -> Netzwerk -> "Die Netzwerkdienste des Systems sind mit dieser Version nicht kompatibel"
[13:43] <olli_> In der Taskleiste ist das Netzwerksymbol verschwunden
[13:43] <maredebianum1> olli_: nm-applet von terminal starten
[13:44] <jokrebel> olli_: Was tatest Du vorher?
[13:46] <maredebianum2> olli_: das "Netzwerk" was du nanntest, kannte ich noch gar nicht - und gleich erst mal die Verbindung verk(l)ickt
[13:46] <olli_> jokrebel, nichts. Ich war per Fernzugriff / x2go auf der Kiste, auf einmal war die Verbdindung weg
[13:47] <MrFastDie> Moin, kennt hier jemand ein gutes Python Buch?
[13:48] <olli_> maredebianum2, konsole -> sudo NetworkManager? --> "Die Anwendung NetworkManager ist momentan nicht installiert"
[13:49] <maredebianum2> olli_: sudo service network-manager restart
[13:49] <martin05112015> ppq und du hast echt keinen Tipp mehr wegen des Tearings ??
[13:49] <maredebianum2> olli_: falls du den neustarten willst, das applet ist als user nm-applet
[13:50] <olli_> maredebianum2, und die Meldung, es sei nicht installiert?
[13:50] <jokrebel> olli_: Und hattest DU vorher den NetworkManager installiert und in Benutzung? (wie es ein Standard-Desktop-Ubuntu normalerweise hat)
[13:51] <jokrebel> olli_: Dann würd ich mal in den apt-Logs schauen. Weil von selber "verschwindet" sowas normal nicht.
[13:51] <olli_> jokrebel, ganz ehrlich, ich habe nie darauf geachtet, wie das DIng heißt. Einfach in der Taskleiste auf das Standard-Symbol für die Verbindungen geklickt, eingerichtet, fertig.
[13:51] <maredebianum2> olli_: du wolltest ein Programm namens ... starten, das gibt es gar nicht
[13:51] <olli_> maredebianum2, sorry
[13:52] <martin05112015> vllt sonst jemand eine idee wieso ich so ein problem mit dem tearing habe ??
[13:53] <olli_> maredebianum2, meinst du meinen Satz "Gnome -> Systemeinstellungen -> Netzwerk"?
[13:53] <maredebianum2> olli_: jepp
[13:54] <olli_> nm-applet
[13:54] <olli_> sorry, falsche Tastatur :-)
[13:55] <olli_> also, der network-manager ist nicht installiert. Wie kann ich das denn vorher gemacht haben?
[13:55] <olli_> irgendwie bin ich ziemlich ratlos
[13:56] <maredebianum2> olli_: weiß ich auch nicht, was/wie hast du denn installiert
[13:57] <olli_> aber warum schriebt die Kiste dann nach "sudo service network-manager restart" -> network-manager stop/waiting und network-manager start/running"
[13:57] <tech9> guten morgen
[13:57] <jokrebel> Hallo Frühaufsteher ;-)
[13:58] <olli_> maredebianum2, ich bin mit dem Rechner sehr vieles am testen, aber ich kann mich wirklich nicht erinnern, am NetworkManager dran gewesen zu sein
[13:59] <maredebianum2> olli_: vielleicht ist auch nur network-manager-gnome bei dir kaputt, da ist nm-applet drin. service ist ja wohl installiert und läuft
[13:59] <bekks> olli_: Dann schau doch mal in die apt/dpkg logs, was du da alles gemacht hast?
[13:59] <jokrebel> olli_: Nochmal - dann verschaff Dir Gewissheit in dem Du in den Logs nachschaust.
[13:59] <tech9> hi jokrebel :p
[13:59] <olli_> vielleicht sollte ich den einfach mal installieren, falls der tatsächlich futsch ist. Nur wie installiere ich den ohne Netzwerkverbidnung?
[13:59] <bekks> olli_: In dem Du dein Netzwerk manuell konfigurierst.
[14:00] <olli_> bekks, etc/network/interfaces ?
[14:00] <bekks> Entweder da oder mit ifconfig
[14:01] <bekks> Und vorher in die Logs gucken, was du da alles gemacht hast.
[14:01] <maredebianum2> olli_: Netzwerk via interfaces ist gut, ansonsten brauchst du die einzelnen deb-Pakete, aber schau doch erstmal was alles installiert ist.
[14:04] <olli_> ok, dann muss ich jetzt erstmal zu google
[14:08] <bekks> olli_: Was willst du denn bei Google?
[14:08] <bekks> Da findest du auch nicht deine Logs.
[14:11] <olli_> bekks, das sage ich nicht, sonst wird zu laut gelacht :-)
[14:11] <olli_> ok, bin jetzt mal ganz simpel in der dpkg.log und habe das Gefühl, ich war gestern irgendwie ... nicht so ganz bei der Sache.
[14:12] <olli_> ... "remove network-manager-gnome..."
[14:13] <olli_> ich weiß, ich war im "Ubuntu Software Center". Aber _eigentlich_ nicht,um den nm zu deinstallieren. Vielleicht habe ich in einem Moment geistiger Umnachtung ...
[14:14] <olli_> was bedeutet "... half-installed network-manager-gnome..."? Der ist halb-installiert?
[14:15] <olli_> oh, und dann gibt es da nocht ".... remove network-manager:amd64 ..."
[14:15] <olli_> alter Schwede
[14:16] <bekks> Ja, den hast du wohl deinstalliert gestern.
[14:16] <olli_> dabei trinke ich gar keinen Alkohol
[14:17] <bekks> Man braucht keinen Alkohol um en zu deinstallieren.
[14:17] <olli_> bei den Möglichkeitn : Blödheit, Unwissenheit, Trunkenheit, ..." habe ich mich für letzteres entschieden ;-)
[14:18] <jokrebel> Man kann auch ohne Alkohol deinstallieren? Oh, das war mir neu ;-)
[14:18] <olli_> jokrebel, ;-)
[14:35] <martin05112015> das kann doch nicht sein das ich dieses doofe tearing nicht weg kriege
[14:38] <martin05112015> hat da niemand mehr eine Lösung für mich ??
[14:41] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Dass Du den passenden Treiber für Deine Grafikkarte benutzt hast Du schon abgekärt?
[14:44] <martin05112015> ja habe mehrere ausprobiertt
[14:44] <martin05112015> über zusätzliche treiber
[14:55] <jokrebel> Hm ... und auch schon mal gegoogled ob nicht vielleicht andere mit der selben Grafikkarte ähnliche Probleme haben (idealerweise hatten und die Lösung in dem Thread mit enthalten ist)?
[14:58] <martin05112015> also ich bin schon am googlen
[14:59] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Welches Ubuntu? Welche Desktopoberfläche? Welche Grafikkarte? Welchen Treiber? nutzt Du wo das Problem auftritt.
[15:01] <martin05112015> ubuntu 14.04.3, gnome 2, nvidia 540m treiber 352.63
[15:04] <jokrebel> nvidia 540m? Hörte ich nie. Was sagt lspci/lsusb dazu?
[15:05] <martin05112015> ich habe eine nvidia 540m im laptop
[15:07] * jokrebel wiederholt sich ja nur ungern, aber "Was sagt lspci/lsusb dazu?"
[15:09] <martin05112015> lspci http://pastebin.com/QTzze4Sd
[15:10] <martin05112015> lsusb http://pastebin.com/sS4GnctK
[15:11] <jokrebel> ohje . das ließt sich als wär das so ein Hybrid-Dingens
[15:12] <smeexs> hast du das schon gesehen , geht zwar um arch aber vielleicht bringts dich auf die richtige spur http://bit.ly/1MtYU7x
[15:12] <martin05112015> ja habe so eine hybrid mist
[15:12] <martin05112015> gibt es da nicht irgendwas mit bumblebee oder so ??
[15:13] <smeexs> punkt ""Avoid tearing with GeForce 500/600/700/900 series cards""
[15:13] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Und es ist sicher gestellt, dass Du den Nvidia-teil nutzt und auch mit dem dazu passenden Treiber?
[15:13] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Und wie ist das Tearing-Verhalten mit der Intel-Grafik?
[15:14] <martin05112015> ja über nvidia x server settings kann ich ja zwischen der intel und der nvidia wechseln die nvidia ist aktiviert und treiber sind die neusten
[15:14] <martin05112015> genau das gleiche
[15:14] <martin05112015> das ist ja das komische
[15:15] <jokrebel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2237215 vielleicht?
[15:16] <martin05112015> ja da war ich gerade auch auf der seite
[15:18] <martin05112015> soll ich das über prime machen oder wie soll ich das verstehen ??
[15:18] <martin05112015> bin nicht sooo gut in englisch
[15:20] <jokrebel> #2 mit dem Hinweis auf Bumblebee behauptet damit das tearing in den griff bekommen zu haben. Also angeführte Link http://askubuntu.com/questions/452556/how-to-set-up-nvidia-optimus-bumblebee-in-14-04 hat diesem User angeblich geholfen.
[15:21] <martin05112015> ok dann werde ich das wohl mal ausprobieren
[15:22] <jokrebel> allerdings kann ich persönlich zum Thema Bumblebee absolut nichts beitragen mangels eigener Erfahrung.
[15:25] <martin05112015> ok trotzdem danke ich wahge mich mal drann mehr als die x server conf zerschießen kann ich ja auch nicht muhahaha
[15:26] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Es gibt auch einen deutschen Wikieintrag zu dem Thema https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hybrid-Grafikkarten/Bumblebee?redirect=no
[15:37] <maredebianum2> martin05112015: erinnert ihr diesen Bug? LOL https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac
[15:44] <sash_> 404
[16:28] <olli_> Jungs, danke erstmal, hab mein WLAN zum laufen bekommen, händisch in der network interfaces. Werde nun schauen, wie ich das alles wieder umstelle auf network-manager
[16:36] <olli_> so, mein Problem geht doch noch weiter: da ich gnome eigentlich nicht nutze, wollte ich nun WICD fürs Netzwerk nehmen. Bei der Installation fror das "Ubuntu-Software-Center" ein, d.h. das Fenster wurde grau, nichts ging mehr. Musste rebooten. Nun startet da kein wicd, aber es ist lt. Software-Center installiert. Deinstallieren lässt es sich auch nicht. Und alternativ doch wieder den gnome Network-Manager installieren geht auch nicht, dafü
[16:36] <olli_> r muss erst wicd runter.
[16:37] <dadrc> was sagt `sudo apt-get remove wicd`?
[16:37] <dadrc> (bitte als pastebin)
[16:40] <bekks> olli_: Du musst Dich halt entscheiden ob du wicd oder nm haben willst.
[16:42] <olli_> bekks, ich schrieb doch, dass ich bei diesem "kleinen Neuanfang" wicd anschauen wollte
[16:42] <bekks> Das habe ich durchaus gelesen.
[16:43] <olli_> daran erkenst du doch meine aktuelle Entscheidung
[16:43] <olli_> Habe Deine Frage daher jetzt nicht verstanden
[16:43] <olli_> Meine aktuelle Entscheidung war pro-wicd
[16:44] <olli_> ob sie es nach dem Anschauen desselbigen auch noch so wäre, weiß ich natürlich nicht.
[16:44] <bekks> Ich habe keine Frage gestellt, sondern nur bezüglich der gesamten PRoblematik von heute mittag und dann deiner wicd-Entscheidung einen Hinweis gegebene.
[16:45] <olli_> bekks, ja, das habe ich verstanden. Ich hatte es jedoch zuvor bereits begründet.
[16:45] <olli_> Ist aber jetzt auch nicht so wichtig, oder? Du hast ja Recht, und ich meinte das gleiche.
[16:46] <olli_> beides zusammen geht natürlich nicht
[16:54] <woti94> Was kann ich denn hier erfahren oder anstellen?
[16:55] <mrkramps> woti94, du darfst hier fragen stellen
[16:55] <mrkramps> oder fragen anderer beantworten
[16:55] <mrkramps> im komntest des betriebssystems ubuntu linux
[16:56] <mrkramps> --komntest ++kontext
[17:02] <jokrebel> und "anstellen" besser nichts. Außer Dich selbst mit Deiner Frage, falls hier mal die hölle los sein sollte.
[17:02] <woti94> Ja, da versuche ich demnächst (bei Problem) eine Frage zu stellen. Ich habe Ubuntu 15.10 mit Lubuntu - Desktop.
[17:18] <olli_> dadrc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13398901/
[17:19] <olli_> Problem mit Abhängigkeiten
[17:19] <mrkramps> olli_, und was steht da?
[17:20] <dadrc> install != remove
[17:20] <mrkramps> so zum Thema „Korrigieren“
[17:20] <bekks> Nunja, die Lösung steht dort ja auch schon. Könnte man ja mal lesen.
[17:23] <jokrebel> olli_ [HINT] steht da sogar 2 mal. Zeile 4 und Zeile 7.
[17:24] <schnuppi> Bin ich jetzt für immer gebannt in #ubuntu-de-offtopic? :-(
[17:25] <jokrebel> schnuppi: Wird hier nicht diskutiert werden. Hier ist der Supportkanal.
[17:28] <jokrebel> im Topic findet sich ein Link zu den Kanalregeln. Dort steht auch näheres zum Thema Ban.
[17:35] <olli_> ach so, hatte ich vergessen einzufügen, sudo apt-get -f install hatte ich natürlich danach auch schon gemacht. Kommt gleich
[17:38] <jokrebel> olli_: Versuch mal ein "sudo apt-get install wicd*" mit Stern hinten dran
[17:40] <olli_> jokrebel, bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/13399843/
[17:44] <mekeor> hallo freunde. ist es eig umständlich/schwierig/anstrengend/kompliziert von einer (non-LTS) ubuntu-version auf die nächste (non-LTS) zu upgraden? ~ was sind eure erfahrungen? :)
[17:49] <bekks> mekeor: Installier neu, ist schneller und einfacher.
[17:52] <mekeor> bekks: also alle 6 monate neu installieren? das ist doch übelst anstrengend -.-"
[17:53] * mekeor mag eig rolling-releases aber muss/will aufgrund von treiber-sachen (natürlich gehts um nvidia) whrs auf ubuntu umsteigen
[17:53] <jokrebel> mekeor: Ich hab gute Erfahrungen mit do-release-upgade. Sowohl bei Rechner mit, als auch ohne LTS.
[17:53] <bekks> mekeor: Die aktuellen LTS haben 5 Jahre Support.
[17:54] <bekks> Und von einem LTS auf das nächste zu aktualisieren ist was anderes als alle sechs Monate komplett zu aktualisieren.
[17:54] <mekeor> jokrebel: das klingt schön. :)
[17:55] <mekeor> bekks: ja, ich will aber nicht die LTS-version nutzen. :P deshalb redete ich auch von non-LTS version ;)
[17:56] <jokrebel> mekeor: Wobei ich bei Produktiv-Rechnern schon auf LTS setze.
[17:56] <jokrebel> mekeor: Warum musst Du ubuntu nutzen obwohl Du viel lieber rolling-release hättest?
[17:57] <olli_> jokrebel, nach sudo apt-get install wicd* hat die Kiste elendig lange und viel geladen/installiert, um dann mit der Meldung "Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von: wicd-gtk..." abzuschließen
[17:57] <mekeor> jokrebel: ich muss es whrs nicht, aber meiner bislang nur oberflächlichen recherche nach hat ubuntu die beste und unkomplizierteste unterstützung für meine grafikkarte (nvidia geforce gtx 960m).
[18:00] <mekeor> jokrebel: wieso benutzt du denn LTS auf deinen produktiv-rechnern? bzw denkst du es ist auch unproblematisch mit einer non-lts version auf seinem (einzigen) produktiv-rechner? :D
[18:03] <olli_> Und Versuche, wicd zu deinstallieren, scheitern weiterhin
[18:06] <stevieh> klar ist non lts auch für produktiv rechner okay. Ob ich es auf meine Server machen würde ist ne andere Sache, aber meine Laptops fahre ich seit ca. 2003 mit non lts
[18:09] <mekeor> stevieh: und wie upgradest du sie auf die aktuelle non-lts? mit do-release-upgrade oder mit manueller neu-installation?
[18:17] <olli_> so, ich bin mit meinem Latein am Ende. Da steht wohl eine Neuinstallation an.
[18:19] <olli_> oder hat noch irgend jemand eine Idee?
[18:25] <bekks> mekeor: LTS auf einem Produktivrechner, eben um NICHT alle sechs Monaten updaten zu müssen.
[18:35] <jokrebel> olli_: Hast Du denn jetzt wieder Internet oder nicht?
[18:36] <bekks> olli_ wicd runterwerfen, nm verwenden.
[18:37] <olli_> jokrebel, ja, per festen Eintrag für wlan0 in der /etc/network/interfaces. Da es ein Notebook ist und ich das an unterschiedlichen Orten nutze, weiß ich noch nicht, ob ich damit jetzt glücklich werde wenn ich immer alles in der Konsole anpassen muss. Vermutlich nicht.
[18:37] <jokrebel> ach ich dachte er will es unbedingt installieren?
[18:38] <olli_> bekks, ja, gescheitert
[18:39] <jokrebel> olli_: Jetzt wird wohl ein "gescheitert ist keine brauchbare Fehlerbeschreibung/-Meldung" kommen ;-)
[18:39] <mekeor> kann ich damit rechnen, dass diese installationsanleitung für meinen grafikkartentreiber für 14.04 auch auf 15.10 klappt?: http://goo.gl/Pfbsdk :)
[18:40] <olli_> jokrebel, nm war bis gestern drauf, dann habe ich murks gemacht. Heute wlan0 händisch eingerichtet in der /etc/network/interfaces. Dann kam mir die grandiose...Idee, mal den wicd zu nehmen, wo doch gerade der nm eh runter ist, und ich gnome auch nicht nutze. Während der Installation von wicd über das ubuntu-Software-Center fror dieses ein, dann Reboot, und seit dem habe ich irgendwie ein halbes wicd, dass ich weder vollständig installier
[18:40] <olli_> en noch deinstallieren kann. Und zurück auf nm kann ich somit auch nicht.
[18:40] <stevieh> mekeor: non-lts meldet, wenn ein upgrade da ist und dann mach ich den - meist 2-3 monate später...
[18:41] <olli_> Die entsprechenden Meldungen und Hinweise bei apt-get usw. hatten wir ja weiter oben alle durch
[18:44] <jokrebel> mekeor: Möglicherweise würde es in 15.10 auch (schon) ohne irgendwelche PPAs klappen. Ich würd das jetzt nicht als die beste vorgehensweise ansehn.
[18:45] <mekeor> jokrebel: cool. ähm, was würdest du nicht als die beste vorgehensweise ansehen?
[18:46] <mekeor> jokrebel: die anleitung?
[18:48] <jokrebel> mekeor: Ein Anleitung (und dann auch noch mit PPA) für die LTS-Version auf einem 15.10 auszuprobieren. (Falls in dem PPA überhaupt auch ein Paket für 15.10 drin wäre)
[18:49] <jokrebel> olli_: apt purge wirc* klappt nicht?
[18:50] <olli_> jokrebel, sudo apt-get remove --purge wicd* ?
[18:52] <jokrebel> vielleicht auch nur was ich schrieb (mit sudo davor)
[18:52] <kirsten> hallo, ich möchte von Ubuntu 14.04 lts Mate auf 15.04 oder 15.10 updaten. Welche Vorgehensweise würdet ihr mir empfehlen?
[18:53] <stevieh> mekeor: solche aktionen sind IMHO auch genau der Grund, non-lts zu nehmen
[18:53] <jokrebel> kirsten: Ein non-LTS-Distributionsupgrade ist so nicht direkt möglich
[18:53] <kirsten> hm, schade. also aufn usb stick und dann alles neu..
[18:53] <jokrebel> kirsten: Würde deshalb empfehlen, auf 16.04.1 zu warten.
[18:54] <stevieh> kirsten: auf 14.10, dann auf 15.04 und gut, oder - wenn nicht viel passiert ist - home retten und neu machen
[18:54] <kirsten> ich dachte Ein non-LTS-Distributionsupgrade ist so nicht direkt möglich
[18:55] <jokrebel> kirsten: Wenn Du unbedingt LTS den Rücken kehren willst müsstest Du erst auf 14.10 hochziehn um dann über 15.04 nach 15.10 kommen zu können.
[18:55] <stevieh> so ist das
[18:55] <kirsten> ok, ich glaube ich warte auf 16.04
[18:56] <jokrebel> das (direkte) Upgrade von 14.04 auf 15.04 wird wieder möglich sein
[18:56] <jokrebel> sorry 16.04
[18:56] <stevieh> 18.04
[18:56] <stevieh> ach, egal, grand hand.
[18:57] <kirsten> ok, danke!
[18:57] <mekeor> jokrebel, stevieh, was würdet ihr mir mit meiner grafikkarte also empfehlen? erst mal einfach 15.10 installieren?
[18:57] <stevieh> mekeor: ja
[18:58] <olymbus> hallo zusamen
[18:58] <stevieh> und wenn dich die 6 monatige updaterei nervt, hörst du nach 16.04 damit auf.
[18:58] <mekeor> stevieh: alles klar, danke <3
[18:58] <mekeor> olymbus: hallo (:
[18:59] <stevieh> eine non-lts ist keine Beta sondern einfach nur kein LTS. Thats all
[19:12] <olli_> jokrebel, sudo apt purge wirc* gibt eine MENGE aus. Was genau macht der Befehl in diesem Fall?
[19:13] <olli_> Ich weiß nur, dass es ähnlich wie remove agiert, aber "irgendwie mehr" macht
[19:14] <dasjoe> "purge" entfernt Pakete und deren Konfigurationsdateien, "remove" nur die Pakete
[19:14] <olli_> ah, DAS war Klartext, danke Dir
[19:15] <olli_> Und warum stehen bei sudo apt purge wirc* in einer langen Liste haufenweise Daten, bei denen ich absolut keinen Zusammenhang zu wirc erkennen kann?
[19:16] <olli_> für mich sieht das so aus, als würde der mir das halbe System löschen. 276 MB plattenplatz wären danach frei. Finde ich ein bisschen viel für so ein kleines Teil.
[19:36] <jokrebel> na dann must halt händisch alles einzeln purgen was einer nm-installation quer liegt.
[19:41] <jokrebel> Wir können, ohne es gesehen zu haben, nicht beurteilen, ob da tatsächlich zu viel runtergelöscht wird.
[19:43] <jokrebel> olli_:
[19:48] <olli_> jokrebel, ok, danke.
[19:51] <olli_> Ich lasse es bleiben. Ich teste die Kiste gleich am LAN dort, wo ich ihn überwiegend bzw. kommende Woche benötige. Wenn ich da jetzt was zerschieße, ist mein Sonntag auch noch im A*sch, so wie der Tag heute
[19:53] <jokrebel> olli_: Dachtest Du nicht grade noch über eine Neuinstalltion nach? (Backup vorausgesetzt) was soll noch schlimmer werden?
[19:55] <olli_> jokrebel, ich meeine den Zeitpunkt. Momentan benötige ich die Kiste. Dann gehe ich das (purge, Neuinstall o.ä.) lieber erst an, wenn ich den Rechner nicht benötige
[19:55] <olli_> Meine Kinder hatten heute schon nichts von mir, da muss ich nicht auch noch den Sonntag vorm Rechner sitzen
[20:04] <jokrebel> sehr löblich ;-)
[20:06] <bekks> "Momentan benötige ich die Kiste" und "ich teste sehr viel" sind niht miteinander vereinbar. :)
[20:08] <jokrebel> wollte damit auch nur ausdrücken, dass Du vor der Neuinstallation doch theoretisch jedweden Rettungsversuch gefahrlos probieren kannst. Neu installieren kannst dann immer noch, wenn es nicht klappt.
[20:11] <olli_> jokrebel, stimmt
[20:14] <olli_> bekks, ich verstehe den scheinbaren Widerspruch. Man könnte es so sagen: die vielen Tests haben in dieser Woche genau das ergeben, was ich benötige, um genau das auf einem Produktivsystem umzusetzen. Für die Doku und den zugriff auf dasselbige (x2go / nomachine) erleichtert mir dieses (Test-)Laptop aber einiges
[20:15] <olli_> vorübergehend
[20:15] <olli_> das Gebastelte kann ich kommende Woche gut gebrauchen
[20:15] <bekks> NA wenn du meinst, dass es hilfreich ist ein System kaputt zu konfigurieren - viel Erfolg weiterhin :P
[20:16] <olli_> bekks, ohne den letzten Schritt (wicd) natürlich :-)
[20:16] <bekks> apt-get install x2go hätte wohl gereicht.
[20:18] <olli_> bekks, ich bin dankbar für jede Hilfe. Aber aus der Hüfte geschossene Sprüche finde ich daneben.
[20:19] <bekks> Manchmal tut die Wahrheit halt weh. Wenn das Ziel war/ist, x2go zu nutzen, gab es damit auch keinen Grund sich einen halben Tag lang mit nm/wicd herumzuschlagen.
[20:19] <olli_> bekks, was sollen diese Spüche?
[20:20] <olli_> bekks, ich habe bereits seit 6 Jahren einen Terminalserver mit ThinClients usw am laufen
[20:20] <bekks> Was genau nichts mit der heutigen Aktion zu tun hat, oder?
[20:20] <olli_> ich habe nicht viel Ahnung, aber was soll so ein Spruch? Wenig Ahnung heißt nicht komplett bescheuert
[20:21] <linuxr> hallo, was gibt es für möglichkeiten, nach einem kompletten systemabsturz die ursache herauszufinden?
[20:21] <bekks> Niemand hat gesagt, dass du wenig Ahnung hast, oder bescheuert wärst. Wenn Du Dir diesen Schuh freiwilig anziehst, lassen wir diese Diskussion besser.
[20:21] <bekks> linuxr: Logs lesen, zu finden unter /var/log/
[20:21] <mgolisch> linuxr: das logfile lesen?
[20:21] <linuxr> welche logfiles genau?
[20:22] <olli_> Muss das wirklich sein? Nochmal: ich bin dankbar für jede Hilfe. Aber Du greifst an. Immer wieder.
[20:22] <bekks> linuxr: Die, die einen Zeitstempel um das Absturzdatum herum haben.
[20:22] <olli_> Was soll das also? Man kann doch einfach antworten, ohne denjenigen ständig unfreundlich zu belehren.
[20:22] <linuxr> da habe ich leider nichts gefunden bekks ... und das beunruhigt mich etwas
[20:23] <bekks> linuxr: In welchen Logs hast du denn geguckt?
[20:23] <linuxr> kern.log, dmesg
[20:23] <linuxr> syslog
[20:23] <bekks> linuxr: Und welche Logs haben noch Zeitstempel um den Absturzzeitpunkt herum oder jünger?
[20:24] <linuxr> bekks, die neusten Einträge vor dem Absturzzeitpunkt liegen jeweils Stunden zurück
[20:25] <bekks> linuxr: Zeig doch mal ein ls -lha /var/log/ und sag uns, wann der Absturz war.
[20:25] <bekks> linuxr: Schmeiss das ls -lha in ein Pastebin bitte.
[20:26] <olli_> bekks, nichts für ungut, trotzdem Danke
[20:29] <linuxr> bekks, http://pastebin.com/14xN4qN1
[20:31] <linuxr> crash war ca 20:55
[20:33] <bekks> linuxr: Dann schieb doch mal dmesg, kern.log, pm-powersave.log, syslog und Xorg.0.log in pastebins.
[20:36] <linuxr> das wären ja die aktuellen logs, nach dem reboot bekks ?
[20:37] <bekks> linuxr: Das wären die Logs mit einem Zeitstempel um den Absturz und jünger.
[20:37] <bekks> Die Logs, in denen Informationen zum Absturz zu finden sein können.
[20:39] <linuxr> die hab' ich schon alle durchgesehen, da hats leider kein ereignis was auch nur in der Nähe der Absturzzeit wäre :/
[20:40] <bekks> 1121 213316 < bekks> linuxr: Dann schieb doch mal dmesg, kern.log, pm-powersave.log, syslog und Xorg.0.log in pastebins.
[21:40] <MorelPisum> Hallo Freunde. Ich versuche gerade Ubuntu 15.10 vom usb-stick auf meinem Laptop zu installieren, aber es ist gerade zum dritten mal abgestürzt, nämlich wegen dem nouveau Treiber. Wie kann ich den (am besten schon vorm booten) deaktivieren?
[21:42] <bekks> Woher weisst du dass der nouveau Treiber schuld ist?
[21:44] <MorelPisum> bekks: Weil der Treiber beim booten mit Fehlermeldungen flood und fürs crashes mit meiner Grafikkarte (nvidia geforce gtx 960m) bekannt ist und ich das gleiche Problem mit meiner aktuellen Debian Installation habe...
[21:47] <bekks> Dann setz nouveau.blacklist=yes in deine Kernel Commandline beim Booten.
[21:50] <MorelPisum> beş,
[21:50] <MorelPisum> Beş, cool, scheint zu funktionieren, danke :)
[21:59] <MorelPisum> Bekks, doch nicht. Es ist wieder abgestürzt... ist es wichtig an welcher Stelle ich den Blacklist Parameter setze?
[21:59] <bekks> Solange das in der Kernel Command Line passiert, ist die Position egal.
[22:26] <robert1> schönen Abend noch für euch, bis demnächst
[22:45] <Anf> Guten Abend. Ich hab ein kleines Problem. Ich wollte Windows mit Ubuntu zusammen auf eine Festplatte installieren, leider hab ich auf die reihenfolge der installation nicht geachtet, und hab Ubuntu und dan Windows installiert. Jetzt hat Windows aber den Loader von Ubuntu überschrieben, und jetzt wird bei Booten nur Win7 gebootet, obwohl Ubuntu installiert ist. Wie kann ich von einer Live Ubuntu CD den Loader von Ubuntu wieder install
[22:47] <Fuchs> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/grub_2/reparatur << Anf
[22:47] <Anf> Super, vielen Dank
[23:59] <kakashiAL> hallo, kann man mit ubuntu, mit dem ich über das wlan ins netz komme, ein hotspot erstellen
[23:59] <kakashiAL> also gleichzeitig internet und hotspot haben
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-uy
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[01:22] <magu42> como andas naudy ?
[01:23] <naudy> buenas noches
[01:23] <magu42> :-)
[01:23] <naudy> saludos amigo, todo tranqui por el momento
[01:23] <naudy> y por alla
[01:23] <magu42> todo tranquilo
[01:24] <magu42> estás en casa o andas por algun otro lugar? :-)
[01:24] <magu42> eres muy paseandero tu
[01:24] <naudy> aqui en casita en VE
[01:25] <magu42> jeje
[01:25] <magu42> bien de bien
[01:43] <naudy> excelente
[01:44] <naudy> magu42, por momento esperando la Re-Verification de team VE
[01:44] <naudy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[01:44] <viki> Title: LoCoCouncil/Agenda - Ubuntu Wiki (at wiki.ubuntu.com)
[01:44] <naudy> para el martes 24
[01:44] <magu42> nosotros tenemos para un año más creo
[01:44] <magu42> el que sabe de eso es pablo
[01:51] <naudy> magu42, nosotros por ciertos problemas q no vienen al caso decir , hemos tenido poca participacion de dos años para aca no ha sido facil pero alli segumos para adelante
[01:51] <magu42> yo mantengo la wiki al dia , pero es él que nos avisa de las fechas jejeje
[01:51] <naudy> esa la idea y la actitud :-)
[01:52] <magu42> éste año ha sido bastante tranquilo aqui también
[01:52] <magu42> el sabado nos reunimos y hablabamos de justamente de ésto
[01:52] <naudy> veremos como evolucionan las cosas para el 2016
[01:52] <magu42> el de no va*
[01:53] <naudy> nosotros como tal tenemos dar cambiar y hacer varios ajustes en varias cosas
[01:53] <magu42> ratman tenia ganas de hacer nuevamente la ubucon aqui
[01:53] <magu42> lo miaramos un poco raro
[01:53] <naudy> por lo menos yo estoy apoyando con la cuenta de twitter @ubuntu_ve
[01:53] <magu42> o sea más raro que de costumbre jaja
[01:54] <naudy> jajajaja miraron feo al pobre #ratman
[01:54] <naudy> jajajaja
[01:54] <magu42> los LoCo teams están todos quietos , por lo que estuve viendo
[01:54] <magu42> ratman +1
[01:55] <naudy> en realidad nosotros quisieramos hacerlo aqui pero muchos problema politicos fuerte y la verdad evaluamos bien y es complicada cosas
[01:55] <magu42> está complicado Ve ahora mismo :-(
[01:56] <naudy> si desde hace dos años para aca , esta sumamente fuerte
[01:57] <naudy> por alli vi esto : " Sigue la polémica con la propiedad intelectual de Ubuntu https://t.co/AqnzhhKO8B
[02:00] <magu42> ese es todo un tema , "propiedad intelectual"
[02:01] <naudy> si es mucha tela q cortar por decirlo asi
[02:01] <naudy> es un tema muy extendido
[02:04] <magu42> naudy⟿ alli son 21:34 ?
[02:07] <naudy> asi es la 9:34pm
[02:07] <magu42> jeje
[02:07] <magu42> ac
[02:07] <magu42> acá 23.07
[02:07] <naudy> casi la media noche es alla
[02:07] <magu42> hora de que éste viejito se bañe y se valla a la camita
[02:08] <naudy> jajajaja
[02:08] <magu42> vaya*
[02:08] <naudy> a descansar ya mucha tecnologia por hoy
[02:08] <naudy> jajajaja
[02:08] <magu42> D+
[02:08] <naudy> saludos magu42 y excelente fin de semana
[02:08] <magu42> nos leemos naudy , un gusto volver a saber de ti
[02:08] <naudy> asi es estare por aca nuevamente
[02:08] <magu42> D+
[02:09] <naudy> saludos a todos los demas compañeros por alla
[02:09] <naudy> :-)
[02:09] <magu42> les mando tus saludos
[02:09] <magu42> nas
[02:34] <barbanegra> naudy: que dice?
[02:34] <barbanegra> naudy: #birras
[02:35] <naudy> barbanegra, que tal como anda todo
[02:36] <naudy> las birras estan en stop por el momento
[02:36] <naudy> algo de gripe y bueno espero estran bien pronto
[02:36] <barbanegra> no no
[02:36] <barbanegra> /join #birras
[02:37] <barbanegra> naudy: tantisimo tiempo
[02:37] <naudy> si amigo tenia un buen tiempo si usar irc
[02:38] <naudy> mucha gente se fue al telegram osea se volvieron terroristas muchos
[02:38] <naudy> jajajaja
[02:38] <naudy> ajajaja
[02:38] <naudy> esos de CNN son uon locos
[02:38] <naudy> jajajaa
[02:38] <barbanegra> naudy: pv
[02:41] <naudy> ok
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-meeting
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[23:02] <Acerio> I signed up for the Ubuntu Hardened team via LaunchPad, about how long until the request is reviewed? And what are the odds of getting accepted?
[23:20] <Acerio> (I sent that in the wrong channel! Whoops)
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-tn
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[03:39] <Na3iL> o/
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-gnome
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[00:30] <LinDol> hi all
[00:35] <LinDol> hi all :)
[00:35] <LinDol> darkxst, good morning, are you here? :)
[00:37] <darkxst> LinDol, hi
[00:41] <LinDol> darkxst, :)
[00:41] <LinDol> I have a question :)
[00:42] <LinDol> regarding, the issue on the launchpath when you mention to me
[00:44] <darkxst> which issue?
[00:45] <LinDol> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1514938
[00:46] <darkxst> LinDol, the last comment seems to suggest that they are working
[00:46] <LinDol> opps
[00:46] <LinDol> Okay :)
[00:47] <LinDol> and Thank you for your working for korean people.
[00:57] <darkxst> LinDol, np, thanks for your work translating
[00:57] <LinDol> Thank you :)
[00:58] <LinDol> oh. If i want to begin to learn technical of Ubuntu GNOME, Where can i begin?
[00:58] <LinDol> for example, some of books,
[00:58] <LinDol> or magazine?
[00:58] <LinDol> Could you advise to me about it? :)
[00:58] <LinDol> I just desktop user on Ubuntu GNOME.
[01:01] <darkxst> what area?
[01:01] <darkxst> packaging? development? testing?
[01:02] <LinDol> testing?
[01:05] <LinDol> oh i think before beginning to learn technical information, I need to read all content of our WIKI :)
[01:05] <darkxst> yes, there is some info on testing on the wiki
[01:06] <LinDol> yes yes :) I will learn it first, translating it
[01:06] <LinDol> darkxst, Thank you your advise ;)
[01:19] <darkxst> LinDol, Normally testing would start at Alpha 1, but there have been lots of early changes this cycle
[01:21] <LinDol> Okay :)
[01:41] <bcx> Sometimes gnome-shell eats up all my cpu, if I strace I can see it is getting EAGAIN on fd#6, lsof shows me: https://paste.debian.net/334506/
[01:41] <bcx> Don't know how to get more insight from here, any idea ?
[11:24] <MANISH> hi I am using Ubuntu Gnome 15.10, after every boot it shown system encountered problem with details showing xorg as the culprit, this only happens once after every boot. Can anybody help
[11:24] <MANISH> shown -> shows
[11:26] <MANISH> hi
[11:26] <MANISH> anybody
[11:26] <MANISH> please help
[20:51] <xela2244> hi, how can i change button-power option to black screen. I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 15.10
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-x
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[11:38] <mamarley> ricotz: 358.16 is ready in the usual location. :)
[12:07] <ricotz> mamarley, great!
[19:13] <mamarley> ricotz: Enjoying that GTX 970?
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-server
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[03:39] <RoyK> telldrak: sendmail?
[03:40] <RoyK> telldrak: I haven't used sendmail for 10+ years
[03:40] <RoyK> telldrak: try postfix
[03:40] * sarnold shivers
[03:42] <RoyK> Savemech: is that sendmail abstience, sir?
[03:43] <sarnold> RoyK: I've been clean and free from sendmail for 17 years sir, and I'd like to keep it that way. I'm really looking forward to my 20 year chip.
[03:43] <RoyK> hehe
[03:44] <RoyK> :)
[04:05] <patdk-lap> heh, I don't get the whole m4 stuff in sendmail
[04:05] <patdk-lap> sendmail is great at what it does, but being simple is not one of it's things
[04:05] <patdk-lap> but I do use sendmail, for things postfix cannot do, but that is pretty rare
[04:06] <JanC> what would that be?
[04:06] <patdk-lap> identd uucp mainly
[04:07] <patdk-lap> but sendmail.cf is just a scripting language, so it is infinitely adjustable, to completely non-smtp standards
[04:07] <sarnold> funny enough, I think the last time I used sendmail it was to bridge between uucp and mmdf.
[04:08] <patdk-lap> use it on customer webservers, for ident support :) makes tracing abuse much easier
[04:09] <patdk-lap> most of the time that is overkill, as the from is left to the default
[04:10] <sarnold> hah :)
[04:36] <telldrak> thanks for the feedback, guys
[04:36] <telldrak> looking into postfix instead
[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:38] <balintx> hi, I'm using ubuntu server 14.04 and Apache 2.4.16 from the repository. the problem is I get an email every 5 minutes from cron daemon stating * Starting web server apache2
[11:38] <balintx> anyone met this?
[11:39] <bekks> Check your cron configuration.
[18:13] <grendal_prime> ok who has time to look at an email server config with me?
[18:13] <grendal_prime> better yet..who is familar with zimbra?
[18:14] <grendal_prime> I got the install done and the server is working...just werid things....
[18:21] <Sling> yeah I used zimbra for about a year, but got fed up with the heavyweight stack
[18:21] <Sling> and now just run postfix+dovecot
[19:12] <grendal_prime> sling, ya i need something with calendaring built in
[19:13] <grendal_prime> so you got some time to help me wrap my head around a few things..im getting close but the whole email server thing and how i get it worked in with dns is starting to make me a little crazy.
[19:15] <grendal_prime> here is the layout. I have a domain and a software router that handles the front door on that. software router is doing its thing via iptables. I also have a dhcp server on there and two seperate networks. One is a virtual host with about 20 servers running on it.
[19:16] <grendal_prime> its on say...192.168.108.0 and the second network is for staff its on 192.168.16.0
[19:16] <grendal_prime> my zimbra server .."zimbra" is running on the 108 subnet.
[19:18] <grendal_prime> now. I set up a bind9 dns server and it seems to be working right now. I have a zone for each of the subnets and one for the domain "booksnmore.com"
[19:19] <grendal_prime> zimbra server is accesible on local network as zimbra.booksnmore.com
[19:34] <RoyK> grendal_prime: and then?
[19:35] <grendal_prime> so i set up a mx record that was zimbra.booksnmore.com with nesol.
[19:35] <RoyK> nosol?
[19:35] <grendal_prime> and i was able to send email to my gmail account and back to [email protected].
[19:36] <grendal_prime> network solutions ..sorry
[19:36] <grendal_prime> thing is ..i need the email address to be just booksnmore.com
[19:36] <grendal_prime> [email protected]
[19:37] <RoyK> that's a zimbra config
[19:37] <RoyK> quite easy in the admin web
[20:16] <grendal_prime> ok...i guess i just dont get this..
[20:17] <grendal_prime> i have an a record
[20:17] <grendal_prime> then i create the mx record ...it points to the a record.
[20:18] <grendal_prime> do i need to create an A record that matches the mx record?
[20:19] <grendal_prime> so i have an A record of booksnmore.com and an mx record of zimbra.booksnmore.com thats it thats all i need at network solutions correct?
[23:33] <vacho> hey guys, I am installing a web server and I just deployed an ubuntu 14.04 image... I remember there are two recommended commands to run that will update everything to latest secury and stable, anyone care to help?
[23:38] <patdk-lap> autoupdates :)
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[05:51] <anonymous_tails> good pm..new here at ubuntu os..
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[07:26] <robru> lol, oops
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[00:19] <CrazyMelon> i'm done
[00:19] <CrazyMelon> ln
[01:26] <upd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkZ_sWBxrM
[01:26] <Pepelka> The Ka$h Cycle - YouTube
[05:44] <zdobbie> http://feedly.com/i/saved
[05:44] <Pepelka> feedly. Read more, know more.
[05:44] <Pepelka> »Feedly connects you to the information and knowledge you care about. We help you get more out of you work, education, hobbies and interests. The feedly platform lets you discover sources of quality content, follow and read everything those sources publish with ease and organize everything in one place.«
[05:44] <zdobbie> or rather
[05:44] <zdobbie> http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/11/sleeping-in-on-weekends-linked-to-health-problems/
[05:44] <Pepelka> Sleeping in on weekends linked to health problems | Ars Technica
[05:44] <Pepelka> »Shifts in sleep schedule may throw the body’s metabolic clocks out of sync.«
[06:07] <upd> še dober da ob 8h zjutraj hodim spat
[09:02] <pitastrudl> matjaz a si zloudal
[10:17] <pitastrudl> yo
[10:21] <CrazyLemon> ima kdo kako idejo za prevod 'spoiler' as in 'spoiler alert' ? :)
[10:21] <Sky[x]> CrazyLemon: nevarnost razkritja? :)
[10:21] <zdobbie> pazi spojler!
[10:22] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] no..ni nobena nevarnost :D ampak neki v zvezi z razkritjem ja
[10:22] <zdobbie> !t en sl spoiler
[10:22] <Pepelka> spojler
[10:22] <zdobbie> evo
[10:22] <CrazyLemon> ma zdobbie! kaj bi js brez tebe!
[10:22] <Sky[x]> potem pa mozno razkritj
[10:22] <zdobbie> topfraggal v insurgencyju
[10:26] <CrazyLemon> a italic je poševno ali je ležeče?
[10:31] <pitastrudl> poševno
[10:31] <pitastrudl> pač
[10:31] <pitastrudl> this is italic you potato
[10:32] <pitastrudl> aja prevod
[10:32] <pitastrudl> ležeče
[10:32] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon za spoiler nevem če je ena beseda za to
[10:32] <pitastrudl> v kakšnem kontekstu boš pisal
[10:32] <CrazyLemon> ampak ležeče zame pomeni horizontalno.. italic text pa ne leži..ampak počiva :D
[10:33] <pitastrudl> lahk tudi rečeš poševno :D afaik je v softwareu ponavadi napisano ležeče
[10:33] <pitastrudl> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[10:33] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl forum kontekst.. torej ko skriješ besedilo recimo o tem da je v TBBT elon musk
[10:33] <CrazyLemon> tako da uporabnik mora kliknit na 'Spoiler' če želi videt kaj se skriva spodaj!
[10:34] <pitastrudl> "klikni na spoiler za dodatno besedilo" "klilkni na "spoiler" za razlago"
[10:34] <pitastrudl> itd
[10:34] <pitastrudl> pač povej da more kliknt na spoiler
[10:34] <pitastrudl> če se boš mučil z prevodi bo sam ljudi medlo
[10:34] <CrazyLemon> ni point v klikanju..ampak v besedi 'spoiler' :D
[10:34] <pitastrudl> prevajaš spoiler?
[10:34] <pitastrudl> pač namesto spoilerja bo slovensko pisalo?
[10:34] <pitastrudl> al kaj
[10:34] <CrazyLemon> JAAAAAAA
[10:35] <pitastrudl> AHA
[10:35] <pitastrudl> HAHA
[10:35] <CrazyLemon> ffs :D
[10:35] <pitastrudl> "predal"
[10:35] <pitastrudl> :-D
[10:35] <pitastrudl> "skrij/odkrij"
[10:36] <pitastrudl> ej CrazyLemon
[10:36] <pitastrudl> guess what
[10:36] <pitastrudl> http://i.imgur.com/ajg12dj.png
[10:36] <pitastrudl> :-D
[10:36] <pitastrudl> "spojler"
[10:36] <pitastrudl> lmao
[10:36] <CrazyLemon> [11:22:19] <zdobbie>: !t en sl spoiler
[10:36] <CrazyLemon> [11:22:20] <+Pepelka>: spojler
[10:36] <Pepelka> spojler
[10:36] <pitastrudl> vidš
[10:36] <pitastrudl> še pepelka ti pove
[10:36] <CrazyLemon> kaj pa misliš od kje to pride :D
[10:36] <pitastrudl> od svetega matička
[10:36] <CrazyLemon> sej je enak page ffs!
[10:36] <pitastrudl> :o
[10:36] <pitastrudl> magic
[10:37] <CrazyLemon> !t en sl indent
[10:37] <Pepelka> alinea
[10:37] <CrazyLemon> dzis
[10:37] <pitastrudl> !t en sl potato
[10:37] <Pepelka> krompir
[10:37] <pitastrudl> huehueuheh
[10:37] <CrazyLemon> !t en sl outdent
[10:37] <Pepelka> Zamik levo
[10:37] <CrazyLemon> makes sense
[10:39] <zdobbie> sneeeg
[10:40] <pitastrudl> kje
[10:40] <pitastrudl> lol
[10:40] <pitastrudl> u kp dežuje, fak
[10:40] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon se topi
[10:42] <CrazyLemon> !t en sl emoji
[10:42] <CrazyLemon> aaaaaaaand i broke it
[10:44] <pitastrudl> rip
[10:52] <Sky[x]> ma povsot dezuje! :(
[10:59] <zdobbie> !t en sl help
[10:59] <zdobbie> sneg je
[11:00] <CrazyLemon> .vreme celje
[11:00] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 3°C @21.11.2015 10:00 UTC.
[11:00] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 92% vzhodnik 3.6 m/s (13.0 km/h)
[11:00] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:09:10, Kulminacija: 10:46:09, Sončni zahod: 15:23:09
[11:00] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 14min 00s, Luna je v ščipu
[11:00] <CrazyLemon> liar!
[11:00] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[11:00] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 13.9°C @21.11.2015 10:30 UTC.
[11:00] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 93% severozahodnik 3.7 m/s (13.3 km/h)
[11:00] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:13:11, Kulminacija: 10:52:19, Sončni zahod: 15:31:26
[11:00] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 18min 15s, Luna je v ščipu
[11:01] <zdobbie> heehee
[11:04] <zdobbie> http://www.slovenskenovice.si/novice/slovenija/foto-slovenijo-pocasi-beli-sneg
[11:04] <Pepelka> FOTO: Slovenijo počasi beli sneg | Slovenskenovice.si
[11:04] <Pepelka> »Bela so tudi že nekatera smučišča.«
[11:09] <zdobbie> kewl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FZyiZQozwc&feature=youtu.be
[11:09] <Pepelka> November 20, 2015 - YouTube
[11:09] <zdobbie> https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3tnjtg/firetruck_performs_ridiculous_strafing_move/cx7pttt
[11:09] <Pepelka> isawfireanditwashot comments on Firetruck performs ridiculous strafing move
[11:09] <Pepelka> »1031 points and 163 comments so far on reddit«
[11:22] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie drifting is not cool! its dangerous!
[11:25] <pitastrudl> admin he doing it sideways
[11:26] <pitastrudl> >2015 >video looks like a whole pixel
[11:30] <matjaz> pitastrudl: sem dol stegnil ja
[11:31] <pitastrudl> vredu
[11:31] <pitastrudl> matjaz je prava stvar?
[11:31] <matjaz> niti ne :)
[11:32] <pitastrudl> kak ne
[11:34] <matjaz> so chansoni, ampak niso šanaoni kot jih mi poznamo
[11:34] <matjaz> :)
[11:35] <pitastrudl> hm
[11:37] <pitastrudl> bom potegnil še par torrentov, pa bomo vidl če bo kej
[11:57] <zdobbie> kaj maste to nek french culture appreciation club
[12:00] <CrazyLemon> v celju je sneg!
[12:02] <zdobbie> a dej bejz
[12:02] <zdobbie> http://i.imgur.com/VoNkUek.png
[12:06] <jabuk> M 3.1 > 10.km SV od HUMINA (GEMONA DEL FRIULI, ITALI @21/11/2015 12:52:44 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.33+N,+13.24+E
[12:08] <Sky[x]> evo sneg tud v lj pada
[12:08] <Sky[x]> debele snezinke :)
[12:08] <zdobbie> https://www.jitbit.com/alexblog/249-now-thats-what-i-call-a-hacker/
[12:08] <Pepelka> Now that's what I call a Hacker
[12:08] <Pepelka> »Now that's what I call a Hacker - Friday, November 20, 2015 - Founder's blog«
[12:18] <jabuk> M 3 > 13.km SV od HUMINA (GEMONA DEL FRIULI, ITALI @21/11/2015 12:52:43 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.38+N,+13.22+E
[12:44] <yang_> sneži
[12:45] <Sky[x]> jp
[12:45] <yang_> .vreme lj
[12:45] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 1.8°C @21.11.2015 12:30 UTC.
[12:45] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 95% jugovzhodnik 1.5 m/s (5.4 km/h)
[12:45] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:11:36, Kulminacija: 10:49:10, Sončni zahod: 15:26:43
[12:45] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 15min 07s, Luna je v ščipu
[12:45] <Sky[x]> zadnic sem gledal zakaj LPP appi ne delajo, ker so zgleda api ugasnil
[12:46] <Sky[x]> in sem prisel do ideje da ma app nek http client k potegne dol html ga poslje na api da ga sparsa in mu vrne v json :)
[12:47] <Sky[x]> tko te ne bi mogl jebat get pobiras dol njihove podatke, niti te ne bi mogl blokirat k bi bil skos drug IP
[12:47] <Sky[x]> lahko ti sam recejo da mors app odstrant :)
[12:48] <Sky[x]> dz0ny: kaj kej mislis glede tega? :)
[13:18] <CrazyLemon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUR7a05UAAA5s3V.jpg:large
[13:18] <CrazyLemon> maan..that dude is so lucky
[13:25] <pitastrudl> ayyy
[13:40] <zdobbie> fookin ozzies!
[13:48] <yang> .vreme kredarica
[13:48] <jabuk> ARSO: Kredarica (2514m): -8.7°C @21.11.2015 13:40 UTC.
[13:48] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 91% severnik 2.8 m/s (10.1 km/h)
[13:48] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:15:17, Kulminacija: 10:51:50, Sončni zahod: 15:28:22
[13:48] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 13min 05s, Luna je v ščipu
[13:53] <matjaz> .yt bela snežinka
[13:53] <jabuk> Bela Snežinka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPQakRkMArk
[13:54] <matjaz> :)
[14:02] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: zakaj .vreme ne izpise debeline snezne odeje?
[14:03] <zdobbie> wat een fail!
[14:08] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ker dz0ny ni dovolil tega
[14:09] <Sky[x]> hehe
[14:09] <Sky[x]> sej lahko popravmo
[14:09] <Sky[x]> da vidim kodo
[14:14] <CrazyLemon> .vreme celje
[14:14] <jabuk> ARSO: Celje (244m): 0°C @21.11.2015 13:00 UTC.
[14:14] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 97% severnik 0.7 m/s (2.5 km/h) oblačno
[14:14] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:09:10, Kulminacija: 10:46:09, Sončni zahod: 15:23:09
[14:14] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 14min 00s, Luna je v ščipu
[14:14] <CrazyLemon> .vreme kredarica
[14:14] <jabuk> ARSO: Kredarica (2514m): -9.1°C @21.11.2015 14:00 UTC.
[14:14] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 91% severnik 3.95 m/s (14.2 km/h)
[14:14] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:15:17, Kulminacija: 10:51:50, Sončni zahod: 15:28:22
[14:14] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 13min 05s, Luna je v ščipu
[14:14] <CrazyLemon> hmm
[14:14] <CrazyLemon> zakaj tukaj ne piše 'v oblakih' i have no idea
[14:16] <CrazyLemon> .vreme lisca
[14:16] <jabuk> ARSO: Lisca (943m): 6°C @21.11.2015 6:00 UTC.
[14:16] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 100% severnik 3 m/s (10.8 km/h) v oblakih
[14:16] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:08:33, Kulminacija: 10:46:05, Sončni zahod: 15:23:37
[14:16] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 15min 04s, Luna je v ščipu
[14:16] <CrazyLemon> svašta
[14:17] <yang> .radar
[14:17] <jabuk> Radarska slika padavin: http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/radar_anim.gif
[14:19] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie http://meteo.arso.gov.si/uploads/probase/www/observ/surface/text/sl/observation_KREDA-ICA_latest.xml
[14:19] <Pepelka> aaxx
[14:19] <zdobbie> so what!
[14:19] <CrazyLemon> tudi arso ne izpiše debeline snežne odeje
[14:20] <pitastrudl> kak je v ljubljani
[14:20] <pitastrudl> baje ful sneg pada
[14:20] <CrazyLemon> .webcam ljubljana
[14:20] <CrazyLemon> oh snap!
[14:20] <CrazyLemon> :>
[14:21] <pitastrudl> CrazyLemon ti nisi iz ljubljane
[14:22] <CrazyLemon> thank god no
[14:22] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] evo https://github.com/dz0ny/arso-api/blob/master/main.go naredi tukaj PR
[14:22] <Pepelka> arso-api/main.go at master · dz0ny/arso-api · GitHub
[14:22] <Pepelka> »arso-api - Arso potresi«
[14:25] <Sky[x]> tnx
[14:26] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] nato sledi še uporaba dodanega podatka ..to pa narediš tukaj https://github.com/ubuntu-si/ircbot/blob/master/scripts/vreme.coffee
[14:26] <Pepelka> ircbot/vreme.coffee at master · ubuntu-si/ircbot · GitHub
[14:26] <Pepelka> »ircbot - Preprost irc bot«
[14:28] <Sky[x]> em bot je v coffe spisan?
[14:28] <Sky[x]> coffee*
[14:28] <pitastrudl> ne, v tea
[14:28] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] yup
[14:29] <Sky[x]> a ta podatek mamo sploh o debilini snezne odeje?
[14:29] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] amm.. poglej mal :D
[14:29] <CrazyLemon> http://meteo.arso.gov.si/uploads/probase/www/observ/surface/text/sl/observation_KREDA-ICA_latest.xml tukaj je omenjen
[14:29] <Pepelka> aaxx
[14:29] <Sky[x]> TF2 igram ravno :D
[14:30] <CrazyLemon> ti kr igraj :D
[14:30] <pitastrudl> glhf
[14:44] <Sky[x]> vo me
[14:44] <Sky[x]> evo me :)
[14:48] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[14:48] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 7°C @21.11.2015 14:30 UTC.
[14:48] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 80% vzhodnik 5.1 m/s (18.4 km/h)
[14:48] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:13:11, Kulminacija: 10:52:19, Sončni zahod: 15:31:26
[14:48] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 18min 15s, Luna je v ščipu
[14:48] <Sky[x]> CrazyLemon: sam tole je
Skupna višina snežne odeje</snow_var_desc>
Interval merjenja padavin</rrHh_var_desc>
[14:48] <CrazyLemon> piha qrba
Novozapadli sneg</snowNew_var_desc>
[14:48] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] paste more..pls
[14:48] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] vem ja ..zato sm pa prilepil link
[14:49] <zdobbie> wat een ctrl+v champ
[14:49] <Sky[x]> zgleda da rocno vnasajo to notr
[14:49] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] jah samodejna postaja ne ve kaj je to sneg :)
[14:49] <Sky[x]> :D
[14:50] <CrazyLemon> tko da samo tiste opazovalne postaje verjetno imajo te podatke
[14:54] <Sky[x]> ja nic dejmo se mal pozabavat
[14:59] <Sky[x]> CrazyLemon: si ze kej uporablov "gobu"?
[14:59] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] ja
[17:02] <yang> A ves kaj je vztrajnost, da igras v takem vremenu fuzbal
[17:03] <yang> TEkmo majo na stadionu
[17:03] <idioterna> ne, pojma nimam
[17:03] <idioterna> k se nikol nism su s kolesom v takem vremenu.
[17:04] <yang> nevem zakaj bi se hotu vozit v takem s kolesom
[17:04] <idioterna> za zdravje in kondicijo
[17:04] <idioterna> pa tut zato k je fino
[17:05] <yang> ti bos tut umrl od kolesarjenja
[17:05] <yang> eno je nekaj zdravo in zmerno poceti, drugo pa je biti odvisen in pretiravati
[17:05] <yang> velja za karkoli
[17:06] <idioterna> ja, ampak js ne pretiravam, sam ti si tak couch potato da se ti zdi da pretiravamo vsi, k par ur na dan telovadimo
[17:07] <yang> ja par ur na dan je pretiravanje
[17:07] <idioterna> moja zdravnica prav da je to mal premal za zdravega cloveka
[17:07] <yang> jst sem zlo malo pr zdravniku
[17:08] <idioterna> js tut
[17:08] <idioterna> po 5 minut na 3 mesce
[17:11] <yang> sej niso vsi zdravniki pametni
[17:16] <yang> S prilozeno VIP kartico vas bomo v centru Rutar obdarili in pogostili v zvezdniskem stilu....Pocutite se kot zvezde, sprehodite se po nasem bozicnem sejmu, nazdravite s kozarckom penine in izkoristite VIP ugodnosti. Skrbno shranite prilozeno prestizno VIP kartico (iz papirja).
[17:17] <zdobbie> a tis jo tud dobu
[17:17] <yang> A ti tut, mater pa sem mislu da je ful malo ljudi VIP
[17:17] <yang> a mislis da majo zadost kozarcev s penino
[17:17] <zdobbie> bojo najbrz sproti umival
[17:17] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: as ti tud slucajno dobu
[17:18] <yang> Sem pa vidu Rutar Haus ob Klopeiner See
[17:19] <yang> Njihovo pocitnisko hisico, hiso, vilo z dvojnimi vrati
[17:19] <yang> http://www.ferienhaus-rutar.at/
[17:19] <Pepelka> Ferienhaus Rutar
[17:20] <Pepelka> »Ferienwohnungen Rutar f�r Urlaub direkt am Klopeiner See«
[17:20] <idioterna> zdobbie: CrazyLemon
[17:21] <zdobbie> a ze
[17:21] <idioterna> c'est l'heure
[17:22] <yang> zdobbie: glej da bos shranil prestizno VIP kartico za prihodnje rodove
[17:22] <idioterna> zakaj bi pa to naredu
[17:22] <zdobbie> mislim, da je ze v smeteh
[17:22] <idioterna> on bo itak umru hmal
[17:22] <idioterna> k prevec kolesari
[17:24] <yang> Rjovejo zunaj k medvedi tej navijaci
[17:25] <yang> mogoce se ogrevajo na tak nacin
[17:26] <idioterna> vazn da te je strah beguncov
[17:31] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie dobu kaj
[17:32] <yang> Prestizno VIP kartico iz papirja
[17:32] <CrazyLemon> nope
[17:32] <yang> a ti jo posljem
[17:32] <yang> da ne bos prikrajsan
[17:38] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjy4qqM0wK4
[17:38] <Pepelka> Welcome to Slovenia #1 - YouTube
[17:38] <Pepelka> »اهلا وسهلا في سلوفينيا (english below) بمجرد الموافقة على طلب اللجوء و كنت في حالة اللاجئين( كفرد واحد او عائلة ) الحالة الخاصة بك تساوي وضع أجنبي مع السماح ...«
[18:27] <yang> haha Olimpija:Maribor to bodo vse razsturili
[20:00] <pitastrudl> hm
[20:00] <pitastrudl> js bi tut lakh sou k zdravniku enkrat
[20:00] <pitastrudl> xd
[20:00] <pitastrudl> nism biu že kake 2 leti
[20:05] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie_ priporocam apu.. da ne bos zgubu zvok sredi igre :>
[20:20] <pitastrudl> https://youtu.be/vPXEDW30qBA
[20:20] <Pepelka> Coding Perl With Speech Recognition Fail - YouTube
[20:20] <Pepelka> »Watch video: Coding Perl With Speech Recognition Fail. Also, browse KillSomeTime to find the funniest videos from around the web. Watch video: Coding Perl Wi...«
[20:55] <zdobbie_> CrazyLemon: nau mel apu nek efekt na audio
[20:55] <R33D3M33R> bo bo, apu roxx!11oneone :)
[21:33] <CrazyLemon> it does!
[21:33] <CrazyLemon> sup R33D3M33R
[21:33] <R33D3M33R> nič posebnega in, malo freedoom igram :)
[21:33] <R33D3M33R> *ni
[21:33] <CrazyLemon> forum sm upgrejdal :)
[21:34] <CrazyLemon> pa mal me roles motijo
[21:34] <CrazyLemon> k takoj dodeli tistemu ki se registrira 'member' role
[21:34] <CrazyLemon> čeprav ni potrdil maila
[21:36] <R33D3M33R> hm, problematično
[21:39] <CrazyLemon> ma niti ne
[21:39] <CrazyLemon> vseeno ne gre odpirat razprav in komentirat postov
[21:39] <CrazyLemon> dokler ne potrdiš maila
[21:40] <CrazyLemon> sam mi vseeno gre na jetra da se dodeli role member..če pa ni :)
[21:41] <R33D3M33R> če je role member je member, kako ne more delati zgoraj navedenih stvari?
[21:42] <CrazyLemon> ker ni kliknil na email confirmation
[21:43] <R33D3M33R> ja, ampak če ima role member, kaj ima to veze? :)
[21:44] <CrazyLemon> ima veze..ker zahtevamo email confirmation ob prijavi
[21:44] <CrazyLemon> očitno ni 'full member' dokler ne potrdiš maila
[21:44] <R33D3M33R> aha, ok
[22:12] <dz0ny> Hackers
[22:13] <CrazyLemon> sup dawg
[22:13] <CrazyLemon> why you on ipad
[22:13] <CrazyLemon> +are
[22:15] <CrazyLemon> dz0ny a real hacker https://www.jitbit.com/alexblog/249-now-thats-what-i-call-a-hacker/
[22:15] <Pepelka> Now that's what I call a Hacker
[22:15] <Pepelka> »Now that's what I call a Hacker - Friday, November 20, 2015 - Founder's blog«
[23:24] <CrazyLemon> madona kako piha !
[23:50] <Sky[x]> lol
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[17:28] * Kilos waves
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2015-11-21-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[00:20] <OvenWerks> DrMr looks nice. It would be a great companion to Hydrogen. Needs packaging though.
[00:27] <OvenWerks> zequence: here is the command people helping on IRC or where ever should know:
[00:28] <OvenWerks> cd /tmp && wget http://jackaudio.org/downloads/adevices.sh && bash ./adevices.sh
[00:29] <OvenWerks> zequence: we should maybe make that adevices.sh part of our distro for audio trouble shooting. Or take the stuff inside and GUI it as part of controls.
[00:33] <OvenWerks> Wow, it even shows how far off a second device is from the first. My m66 shows up as 48000 but my AudioPCI is 48662.07 it says.
[02:42] <OvenWerks> QASmixer has a nicer icon for the systray. It is unique, the old one was the same as the Audio one we have already.
[02:43] <OvenWerks> Ardour 4.4.0 is one of the better versions (4.2.0 had a few bigger problems)
[02:47] <OvenWerks> we no longer have jackd 1.9.9 :)
[14:31] <sakrecoer_> Just realised that FontForge has gotten a serious facelift! :) It's a truley nice project!
[15:41] <sakrecoer_> They have AWESOME documentation! http://designwithfontforge.com/en-US/Introduction.html
[19:03] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: can we add a link on our wiki?
[19:13] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: i think it would be a great idea! :) not sure where...
[19:14] <sakrecoer_> need to get that graphic workflow doc draft done... feel a bit guilty it is taking such time..
[19:18] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: As you can see from my web page: http://www.ovenwerks.net/about.html I am not much of a visual person. That is why I generally stay away from website design.
[19:20] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: :) well, i for one like olschool html with funky colors! MAkes me feel like i am visiting an actual persons work!
[19:21] <OvenWerks> zequence: ^^^ is there a place on our web site to add pointers to off site manuals/tutorials?
[19:21] <sakrecoer_> i will include it in the drafts for graphics, i'm going to try to have teh article covering the graphics workflow by december...
[19:21] <sakrecoer_> *done* by december..
[19:21] <OvenWerks> right
[19:23] <sakrecoer_> feel free to check the spelling so far: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UserGuide/Graphics/draftpage
[19:24] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: there is a link on ubuntustudio.org in the header, for the documentation wiki
[19:25] <sakrecoer_> and also, do not hesitate in pushing me.... sometimes i need a little whipping to get busy.....
[19:27] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: a quick a display uses light and so add colours but a print starts with white and takes away colours might help those new to graphics understand why display and print are different.
[19:34] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: other than that the style looks good. I see no spelling mistakes... but I am far from the greatest speller :)
[19:39] <sakrecoer_> :) good! i have to go for a moment! talk to you soon! :)
[19:46] <OvenWerks> zequence: If we use zita-a2j and pulse bridging, there should be a way to easily disable it. The reason being that they all interfere with freewheel mode. The result can be that exporting audio in a DAW can end up with xruns.
[19:47] <OvenWerks> zequence: I may be able to detect if jack goes free wheel... but not if a client tries to free wheel and fails.
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:00] <nhaines> hax!
[00:02] <mcphail> nhaines: I'm porting gemrb, which is an open source reimplementation of the Infinity Engine used in Baldur's gate, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale etc
[00:05] <nhaines> Ooh.
[00:05] <nhaines> And thanks to GOG.com this is of direct relevance to me.
[00:05] <mcphail> nhaines: indeed
[00:08] <mcphail> We really need more games on the phone
[00:09] <popey> mcphail, \o/
[00:09] <mcphail> popey: this is fun, isn't it :)
[00:10] <popey> yes, yes it is!
[00:10] <k1l_> games and updates. what do you want more on a phone :)
[00:14] <stakewinner00> seems that with OTA-8 my phone are eating battery like a... ¿lion?
[00:19] <stakewinner00> https://a.uguu.se/cfnvhw.jpg no 3G, no bluetooth, no GSM, only wifi (when available) and today I don't used it since the update.
[00:19] <popey> is it still up/on?
[00:20] <popey> can you ssh in and see what's eating the cpu?
[00:20] <mcphail> stakewinner00: I never get decent battery stats after an OTA until it goes through a charge cycle. Don't know why
[00:22] <stakewinner00> lol. popey, I never used ssh with my ubuntu phone, I'll try to reboot and charge, before enabling ssh.
[00:29] <popey> maybe open the terminal and do it?
[00:29] <popey> I've not seen this catastrophic battery loss recently
[00:33] <stakewinner00> popey, unity8 (when reciving some message on telegram CPU goes up)
[00:34] <popey> interesting!
[02:04] <kean> CarolineYu, ping
[02:04] <CarolineYu> kean, pong
[02:11] <ryao-phone> Is this a good phone for Ubuntu? http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-5-d820-32gb-white-unlocked-285132/
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> ryao-phone: nexus4 is better supported mate
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> ryao-phone: n5 has still some issues on touch i think
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> !devices | ryao-phone
[02:21] <ryao-phone> lotuspsychje: Thanks.
[02:22] <ryao-phone> Has anyone tried Ubuntu on both to know how bad the current support is? I am looking at specifications and I am going to really miss a 1080p screen if I get the Nexys 4.
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> ryao-phone: BQ 5
[02:24] <ryao-phone> I am thinking of replacing my iPhone 6S with something running Ubuntu because there is a zero day exploit for mobile safari being sold.
[02:25] <ryao-phone> Is the BQ5 available on the US?
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> ryao-phone: not sure of that
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> ryao-phone: yeah android and Ios are very vunrable
[02:26] <ryao-phone> By the way, is it possible to use Waze and Google Voice (long short short, I use GV connect to have google call my phone whenever I want to make a call) on Ubuntu?
[02:29] <ryao-phone> I suspect that I might need to carry two phones. One for those two apps and a Ubuntu device for secure browsing... Speaking of which, does Ubuntu have ad blocking and RSS readers? What web browser are available for touch?
[02:29] <nhaines_> ryao-phone: Waze doesn't have an Ubuntu client. Neither does Google Voice, so you can receive calls with no problem, but making calls is not supported.
[02:30] <nhaines_> Ubuntu does have an RSS reader and a podcast client. It does not have ad blocking.
[02:30] <nhaines_> You may want to just check out this online listing of the Ubuntu App Store: https://uappexplorer.com/
[02:31] <ryao-phone> Thanks.
[02:34] <ryao-phone> It is a shame this is not available for getting Waze: http://www.openmobileww.com/#!acl/c1o3z
[02:38] <ryao-phone> Hmm... This names Ubuntu: http://media.wix.com/ugd/fbdb15_ddab9b49b87c4be089425ebfc1dd4c93.pdf
[09:18] <ogra_> popey, mcphail, that is why pw auth is completely disabled in the phone ssh setup ;)
[09:18] <mcphail> ogra_: good to know! Cheers
[09:19] * mcphail switches ssh on
[10:34] <robin-hero> Hey davmor2! I've just reflashed Android 5.1 on my Nexus 4 device, and the WiFi works well, then I reflashed Ubuntu, and the WiFi mac address bug is still there, moreover I think there is the same issue with Bluetooth too...
[10:42] <popey> i didnt think we supported going from android 5 to ubuntu
[10:42] <popey> you have to downgrade radio to 4.4.x i thought
[10:49] <robin-hero> Oh! Okay, I'll try it. Thanks popey
[10:52] <robin-hero> So do you think it will be solve my problem?
[10:52] <robin-hero> popey: ?
[10:58] <M0tty> Hiç
[11:00] <M0tty> Since 6 months, i try to fix the GPS issue on my meizu mx 4. I was hoping that the ota-8 solve the problem but it's not. Can you help me ?
[11:03] <robin-hero> M0tty: What's your problem with GPS? It work well on my BQ Aquaris E4.5 and my Nexus4 (with Here AGPS) too.
[11:04] <M0tty> Nothing works. ;-) no localisation, with and without WLAN enable.
[11:12] <M0tty> robin-hero, I works once, just after the ota-7 but since it dosn't work anymore...
[11:13] <robin-hero> Hmm, I don't know on MX4 there is the Here AGPS fix, but with it, it takes about 1-2 minutes to find my location
[11:18] <robin-hero> davmor2: popey: Okay, I reflashed Android 4.4.4 first, then Ubuntu, and the bug is still valid
[11:20] <M0tty> Ok, that's very frustrating : now it works... :-D
[11:45] <Yehai> hello
[11:45] <Yehai> ubuntu phone?
[11:46] <stakewinner00> Yehai, ¿?
[11:49] <Yehai> stakewinner00: you have one?
[11:49] <stakewinner00> yes
[11:49] <Yehai> how is it
[11:58] <stakewinner00> it is like a ubuntu but in a phone¿? There are some reviews on youtube.
[11:59] <Yehai> someone said it s slow
[12:01] <stakewinner00> Yehai, it will depend on the hardware I think,
[12:02] <stakewinner00> the OS is fast, some apps may be slow, like music app when loading some playlist.
[12:04] <Yehai> k
[13:30] <deviloper> hey I have just created a emulator from 'ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu' but when I run it the device comes up but it shows nothing
[13:32] <deviloper> I have checked for OpenGL driver
[13:32] <deviloper> also tried running with more memory
[13:32] <deviloper> nothing helped
[13:33] <deviloper> can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong or how to make it work
[13:48] <MrFastDie> Hey, I've got a question is there a known date for including whatsapp and dropbox?
[13:57] <popey> MrFastDie, nope, you'd need to ask WhatsApp and Dropbox
[13:58] <MrFastDie> I think thats a little bit more complicated :D
[14:00] <popey> Well, it's their software, not ours
[14:02] <MrFastDie> Thats right, but I thought that both have to do with that
[14:32] <mcphail> popey: I suspect I'm seeing the same precipitous drop in battery mentioned last night. It has just been masked as I have had my phone pulgged/unplugged to adb
[14:35] <popey> :(
[14:35] <popey> mine has been on charge permanently, just unplugged and rebooted it
[14:35] <popey> will see what it's like in a few hours
[14:36] <mcphail> my battery stats graph looks like a toblerone
[14:36] <popey> brown and nutty?
[14:36] <mcphail> painful and sickening
[14:36] * mcphail recalls the Billy Connolly toblerone sketch
[14:37] <popey> right, charging up other bq, to have them side by side to compare ota and latest
[15:01] <timppa_> hi
[15:01] <timppa_> I'm trying to install a image server for ubuntu touch
[15:02] <timppa_> problem is that when I try to run generate-keys it's missing a python module "systemimage"
[15:02] <timppa_> which pkg I need to install to get that module
[15:02] <timppa_> ?
[15:04] <timppa_> ./generate-keys
[15:04] <timppa_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15:04] <timppa_> File "./generate-keys", line 24, in <module>
[15:04] <timppa_> from systemimage import config
[15:04] <timppa_> ImportError: No module named systemimage
[15:04] <timppa_> Any ideas?
[15:56] <egon1> hi
[15:57] <egon1> my ubuntuphone dont does installing apps from ubuntu one when the settings for the time not is in automatic
[15:58] <egon1> but when i set automatic umtc+1 than i have a wrong time
[16:24] <anpok> hm where can I see the differences between imag 335 and 336
[16:24] <anpok> in rc-proposed/ubuntu for krillin?
[16:24] <anpok> *image
[16:31] <anpok> found it
[17:35] <taiebot> there is a very funny bug on unity 8 at the moment happened to me twice today http://i.imgur.com/SI4vAd9.png
[17:36] <ludo2> Hola!
[17:36] <ludo2> I'm loolking for a how-to for installing ubuntu phone on a meizu phone.
[17:37] <ludo2> It is a native ubuntu phone.
[17:37] <taiebot> ludo2 so how come there is no more ubuntu phone?
[17:38] <ludo2> Latest migration broke the OS.
[17:38] <ludo2> No more space in system partition.
[17:39] <taiebot> ludo2 too much photos and music or you did apt-get ?
[17:40] <ludo2> In system partition I said.
[17:40] <ludo2> Not in user space.
[17:41] <ludo2> So, is there a tutorial to reinstall it?
[17:42] <taiebot> ludo2 i found this but you might loose everything http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62300985&postcount=39
[17:48] <ludo2> Thanks!
[17:49] <peat-psuwit> rsalveti: Do you still remember my problem about having rild set card_parameters for dual-SIM call?
[17:55] <ludo2> taiebot: when I sent this command "ubuntu-device-flash touch --device arale --channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en", I've got this answer:
[17:55] <ludo2> Device is |arale|
[17:56] <ludo2> Flashing version 7 from ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device arale
[17:56] <ludo2> Cannot cleanup tree to ensure clean deploymentexit status 255
[17:56] <ludo2> And I have the prompt.
[17:56] <ludo2> Is it normal?
[17:56] <taiebot> can you delete the ./cache folder on your computer
[17:57] <taiebot> sorry .cache
[17:57] <taiebot> ludo2 its a hidden folder
[17:58] <ludo2> Yes. I know.
[17:58] <taiebot> ludo2 it should download the image first
[17:59] <ludo2> I've just remove the .cache/ubuntuimages
[17:59] <taiebot> taiebot: its either the image is corrupted or your device is full
[17:59] <ludo2> I try another time.
[17:59] <ludo2> Device: the phone?
[18:00] <taiebot> ludo2 looks like you have already downloaded the image as normally it would download and after push the image to the phone
[18:00] <taiebot> ludo2 i would say the phone
[18:01] <taiebot> ludo2 is it downloading know?
[18:03] <taiebot> ludo2 you can remove the --device arale it should automatically detect the phone is arale this is the command i use for nexus 4 and it works nicely ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en
[18:04] <MrFastDie> Hey guys, I've got a problem with the ubuntu-sdk, when I'm trying to start it it freezes and sais something like row 6: 20279 Segfaulting (Written dump) $BINDIR/qtcreator -platformtheme appmenu-qt5 ${1+"$@"]
[18:05] <ludo2> Wich command is the command that download the system: ubuntu-device-flash?
[18:05] <taiebot> ludo2 yes
[18:06] <ludo2> exit status 255
[18:06] <taiebot> ludo2 so is not downloading any image?
[18:07] <ludo2> It seems no.
[18:07] <taiebot> ludo2 you are missing the equal button in the command
[18:07] <taiebot> touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en
[18:08] <taiebot> ludo2 replace it with meizu stable
[18:08] <ludo2> Yes. But same error.
[18:09] <taiebot> ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
[18:10] <taiebot> can you post the output
[18:11] <taiebot> me i have 2015/11/21 18:10:23 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface...
[18:11] <taiebot> 2015/11/21 18:10:23 Device is |mako|
[18:11] <taiebot> Device mako not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
[18:13] <ludo2> taiebot: http://pastebin.com/q4ZuY6va
[18:14] <taiebot> ludo2 ok we are getting there how is your phone looking is it booted ?
[18:14] <taiebot> ludo2 you should put it in recovery mode
[18:15] <taiebot> http://www.recovery-mode.com/android/meizu-mx4.html
[18:16] <taiebot> ludo2 you should re-do the command when you are in the recovery mode
[18:17] <ludo2> I'm already in recovery mode. :-(
[18:18] <taiebot> ludo2 bizarre adb should be exposed
[18:21] <ludo2> I think that the program doesn't find the device.
[18:22] <taiebot> ludo 2 did you do follow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62300985&postcount=39
[18:22] <taiebot> did you re-install recovery.img
[18:22] <taiebot> ludo2 if adb is not exposed it will not work
[18:23] <ludo2> Yes I reinstall recovery.img .
[18:24] <ludo2> I will try with this version of recovery.img
[18:24] <ludo2> Because I've tried with http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/recovery/
[18:28] <taiebot> ludo2 https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg13878.html
[18:29] <taiebot> ludo2 they might be the same
[18:30] <ludo2> I try.
[18:31] <ludo2> OK. Same error.
[18:31] <taiebot> ludo2 you have been very fast two reset the recovery.img there is no error here?
[18:32] <ludo2> Because I started before.
[18:32] <ludo2> No.
[18:32] <ludo2> No error when uploading recovery.img .
[18:34] <taiebot> ludo2: i am stuck
[18:34] <ludo2> :-(
[18:37] <taiebot> ludo2 double check that each command is right but your device should expose adb
[18:38] <ludo2> I retry from another desktop machine.
[18:38] <ludo2> Is there a debian repository for phablet-tools .
[18:39] <taiebot> ludo2 i would change usb cable also sometimes they are shit
[18:40] <ludo2> But device appear in lsusb command …
[18:43] <vendorrh> Short question: Is Ubuntu touch working on Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5? Has someone installed?
[18:45] <vendorrh> It has been a year since I want to install it
[18:52] <ludo2> taiebot: I try with less level command.
[18:53] <ludo2> adb devices -l return no device.
[18:59] <ludo2> taiebot: http://pastebin.com/xadNy29H
[19:01] <ludo2> This step is good, isn't it?
[19:01] <taiebot> ludo2 yep
[19:01] <taiebot> know you should boot your phone into recovery mode
[19:01] <ludo2> Yes.
[19:01] <ludo2> I do it.
[19:02] <ludo2> But, adb devices -l return no device.
[19:03] <taiebot> ludo2 are you selectionning the menu and entering into it?
[19:03] <ludo2> Wich menu?
[19:03] <taiebot> ludo2 on you phone you should have a menu selection when you boot in recovery mode
[19:04] <ludo2> I just have a black screen with recovery bottom in the bottom.
[19:04] <ludo2> No menu.
[19:06] <taiebot> what if you use the volume button?
[19:06] <taiebot> or the power button
[19:06] <taiebot> normally you should have something like this https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR86Ryp9LPudYhCGOpYx8bedB89YhcLTY-K0WJskKHmxARZGVpm
[19:06] <taiebot> btw this is not meizu
[19:08] <ludo2> I push power button and up volume button and I arrive in my black screen with recovery mode written in the bottom.
[19:09] <ludo2> After that, I've got the ubuntu logo.
[19:09] <ludo2> And no message.
[19:09] <taiebot> something like this ? https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTN5LnXHA_k9L1mCkl0-VuCLwfFqj6gaNc2fnVWN5V994t_fIMR
[19:09] <ludo2> No.
[19:09] <taiebot> and when you have the ubuntu there is no menu either?
[19:10] <taiebot> i have something like this on nexus 4 https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTN5LnXHA_k9L1mCkl0-VuCLwfFqj6gaNc2fnVWN5V994t_fIMR
[19:13] <ludo2> No menu. Just the logo.
[19:21] <taiebot> ludo2 have you tried with sudo when doing fastboot?
[19:22] <taiebot> ludo2 i found this for you http://bbs.meizu.cn/thread-5295722-1-1.html
[19:23] <ludo2> I will try with sudo
[19:25] <ludo2> taiebot: This link is for android only, isn't it?
[19:26] <ludo2> OK. Test with sudo finished. Same error at the end.
[19:26] <ludo2> No adb exposed.
[19:26] <taiebot> And after the phone enters bootloop?
[19:27] <ludo2> What is bootloop?
[19:28] <taiebot> ludo2 never boots up
[19:28] <ludo2> I'm not sure to understand …
[19:29] <ludo2> After what?
[19:29] <taiebot> ludo2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5fhoHL-mR4
[19:31] <ludo2> taiebot: Yes. That's it.
[19:32] <ludo2> But, tutorial is for Windows users. :-(
[19:32] <taiebot> ludo2 what it works?
[19:32] <ludo2> My problem is the same like in the video.
[19:39] <ludo2> Argh. Really? I have to found a Windows machine to do that?
[19:40] <ludo2> Oh god!!!
[19:42] <taiebot> ludo2 when you flash with fastboot are you already in the menu?
[19:42] <taiebot> http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/disccusion-developing-meizu-mx4-custom-t3120673/page4 look in here
[19:43] <taiebot> post #37
[19:45] <ludo2> What is new in this post?
[19:45] <ludo2> I don' t see anything new.
[19:47] <ludo2> Doesn't it?
[19:47] <taiebot> Well you power the phone in recovery mode to do the fastboot flash recovery
[19:48] <taiebot> ludo2 is it what you are doing?
[19:48] <vendorrh> for Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 is there any image available for Ubuntu Touch?
[19:48] <taiebot> vendorrh !devices
[19:49] <taiebot> vendorrh https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[19:49] <ludo2> taiebot: No, I powered the phone in fastboot mode.
[19:49] <vendorrh> SM-T805
[19:50] <vendorrh> bat is it safe?
[19:50] <ludo2> taiebot: ???
[19:50] <ludo2> "you have to flash recovery by fastboot"
[19:50] <vendorrh> oky..I there a tutorial exactly for this device?
[19:51] <vendorrh> Is*
[19:51] <taiebot> vendorrh i do not think so
[19:52] <vendorrh> I am afraid to break the device
[19:52] <taiebot> ludo2. i am becoming clueless
[19:53] <taiebot> ludo2 if i read the instruction that other give is. I boot the phone in recovery mode> flash it with the recovery image> reboot it into recovery image > flash with ubuntu touch
[19:54] <ludo2> I will try to found a windows machine and test like video.
[19:56] <taiebot> ludo2 good luch
[19:56] <taiebot> luck sorry
[19:56] <ludo2> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62296910&postcount=37
[19:57] <ludo2> This post doesn't say to install recovery image in recovery mode, does it?
[19:57] <ludo2> Am I crazy?
[19:57] <taiebot> ludo2 To enter fastboot mode you have to turn off the phone and press POWER+VOL_DOWN
[19:57] <ludo2> Yes.
[19:58] <taiebot> fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
[19:58] <ludo2> Yes
[19:58] <taiebot> ludo2 i am like you suprise it does not work
[19:58] <ludo2> Ok.
[19:59] <ludo2> But I have understanded you say me to upload recovery.img in recovery mode.
[20:00] <taiebot> ludo2 have you noticed that fastboot mode is different than recovery ??
[20:00] <taiebot> fastboot mode Press VOL DOWN and POWER
[20:00] <taiebot> Recovery (VOL UP and POWER).
[20:10] <taiebot> ludo2 i have to go hope you will solve your problem
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[01:22] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[01:22] <ipeter> 내일 비틀 시승하러가요..ㅠ
[01:35] <Work^Seony> 오오
[01:35] <Work^Seony> 시승해보고 느낌 알려주세요 ㅎㅎ
[01:45] <ipeter> 네네
[01:47] <ipeter> 히히 설레네요-
[01:48] <ipeter> 잠시 리붓하고 올께요!!!
[02:02] <ipeter> 슬프네요.
[02:02] <ipeter> papers3라는 논문정리 프로그램을 구매했는데
[02:02] <ipeter> 맥과 윈도우 버전만 나오네요.
[02:02] <ipeter> 으흐흑
[02:02] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[02:02] <Work^Seony> 설마 리눅스용을 기대하신 건가요?
[02:03] <ipeter> 네...
[02:03] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[02:03] <ipeter> 으흐흐흑
[02:03] <ipeter> 은근히 science쪽에서도 리눅스 많이 쓰이잖아요...ㅠ
[02:03] <ipeter> 그리고 맥을 쓰면서 부작용이...
[02:03] <ipeter> 이제 슬슬 단축키가 헷갈려집니다..ㅠ
[02:03] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[02:04] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 조금 지나면 해깔리지않을 거에요
[02:05] <ipeter> 역시 워크스테이션 돌려서 윈도우 설치하는게 좋을듯 싶네요.
[02:05] <ipeter> 으...자꾸 리눅스에서 맥 키배열 단축키 누르네요.
[02:08] <ipeter> 근데 선뜻 맥으로 못가겠는게요,
[02:09] <ipeter> 지금 hp놋북이 쿼드 i7에 스스디 256에 램16기가인데요
[02:09] <ipeter> 이정도로 맥에서 맞추려면...가격이 너무 뛰어서 제 경제적 사정으로는 장기하나 팔아야할지도 몰라서요.
[02:09] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ
[02:10] <Work^Seony> 제 생각엔, 그냥 하나만 선택해서 익숙해지시는게 좋아보이네요
[02:10] <Work^Seony> 여러개 쓰면서 스트레스 받으실거면, 그냥 하나만 잘 쓰시는게 나아요
[03:51] <ipeter> 밥먹고 왔습니다.
[03:51] <ipeter> ㅠ
[03:56] <ipeter> 주말에 나와서 교육 받으려니 너무나도 슬프네요.
[03:56] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ 으흐흑
[04:17] <koolDJ> 안녕하세요
[04:17] <koolDJ> 집에 아직도 우분투 12.10 디스크가 있네
[04:17] <koolDJ> 후훗
[05:42] <good> 안녕하세요. 우분투에서 와콤 타블릿 ctl-490을 인식하게 하고 싶은데, 구글에서 검색을 해보았는데, 잘 몰라서 이곳 분들께 조언을 구하고자 합니다.
[07:12] <HolyKnight> http://kotone.egloos.com/m/7035090
[07:41] <MENT> 2700t ㄷㄷ
[08:40] <HolyKnight> http://m.blog.daum.net/_blog/_m/articleView.do?blogid=0ZM8v&articleno=128
[08:42] <JasonJang> THX, Holy Knight ^^
[08:45] <autowiz> 좋은글 감사합니다
[08:46] <HolyKnight> ㄱㅅㄱㅅ
[09:04] <HolyKnight> http://agile.egloos.com/m/5858679
[09:06] <MENT> 음
[09:06] <MENT> 논문 근거를 들어서 학습방향에 대해 잘 쓰여진 책은
[09:06] <MENT> 아이의 공부두뇌라는 책이 있는데요
[09:06] <HolyKnight> 오호
[09:06] <MENT> 우리나라 뇌과학 권위자이신 의사선생님이 쓰신거에요
[09:07] <MENT> 복습 / 충분한 수면시간 확보 / 스트레스 받으면 안됨 / 칭찬 / 음식
[09:08] <MENT> 쓰면서 외우기 / 문장 단위로 외우기 등등이 나와있던걸로 기억 하는데요
[09:08] <HolyKnight> 글쿤유
[09:08] <MENT> 충분한 근거들을 기반으로 쓰여진 책이에요
[09:08] <HolyKnight> 좋네유
[09:13] <MENT> 저 글 근거가 되는
[09:13] <MENT> 레포트가
[09:13] <MENT> 55페이지 짜리가 있네요
[09:15] <MENT> aps라는 비영리 기관에 실렸네요
[09:20] <MENT> 10개 테크닉으로
[09:20] <MENT> 실험했는데
[09:20] <MENT> 그중 다섯개는
[09:20] <MENT> 시원찮았다는 내용이네요
[09:21] <MENT> Five techniques received a low utility assessment: summarization, highlighting, the keyword mnemonic, imagery use for text
[09:21] <MENT> learning, and rereading.
[09:23] <MENT> Elaborative interrogation, self-explanation, and interleaved practice 이런게
[09:23] <MENT> 효율이 높은 학습법이라는데
[09:24] <MENT> 앞에 elaborative interrogation은
[09:24] <MENT> 자세하고 정교한 질문 정도로 해석 되는데 학습쪽에 용어인가봐요
[09:24] <MENT> 뭘 적용시키고 팀끼리 그것에 대해 토론하는데 적용되는 그런거고 뒤에껀
[09:24] <MENT> 자기스스로한테 설명하는거랑
[09:25] <MENT> 고 뒤에놈은 뭐지
[09:26] <MENT> 끼워맞추는거? 뭐 빈칸이 있으면 거기 뭐가 들어갈지 맞추는 그런걸까요 잘 모르겠네요
[09:27] <MENT> 아
[09:27] <MENT> 제가 대충읽어서
[09:27] <MENT> 저 위에 3개는
[09:27] <MENT> 중간 정도 평가를 받았어요!
[09:28] <MENT> 높은 평가 2개는
[09:28] <MENT> Practice testing and distributed practice 이거에요
[09:28] <MENT> 이게 요약이네요
[09:29] <MENT> 저녁 맛있게 드세요 저는 저녁먹으러
[10:02] <MENT> HolyKnight, 저 밥먹고 왔어요
[10:02] <MENT> 음 효과있다고 여겨지는 저 2개는 하나는 연습시험 보는거고 하나는 뭘 배우고 나서
[10:02] <MENT> 충분한 시간간격을 두고
[10:03] <MENT> 다시 공부하는 거래요
[10:38] <HolyKnight> 본녀도 한우먹고 2차 가는중
[10:57] <JasonJang> 그 본녀(님) 잘 잡숫고 잘 노신다? ㅋ
[11:31] <HolyKnight> 다시 공부해야 하는거군유
[11:33] <ipeter> 재직자 교육 주말반 들으니
[11:33] <ipeter> 진짜 일주일이 너무 금방 가네요
[11:33] <ipeter> 많이 우울합니다.
[11:34] <ipeter> 좀 우울좀 풀어주세요
[11:34] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[11:40] <MENT> HolyKnight, http://restervivant.blog.me/220428997093 이글 읽어보세요
[11:40] <MENT> 저 책 내용이 처음에 올리신 링크에 글 쓴 사람이 참고한 글이랑 접점이 많네요
[11:40] <HolyKnight> 오
[11:40] <HolyKnight> ㄱㅅㄱㅅ
[11:40] <MENT> 요분 포스팅이 잘 정리된 글이더라고요.
[11:53] <HolyKnight> 북마그해뒀어유
[12:03] <MENT> 넵
[12:03] <MENT> 책도 저는
[12:03] <MENT> 이번에 저거 사서 읽어보려고요
[12:03] <MENT> 어떻게 공부할 것인가였나요 그 책요
[12:04] <MENT> 근데 방학때요 학기중에는 따로 읽을 시간이 없네요
[12:04] <MENT> 방학때도 주말만 시간되서요 '-' 랩실에 박혀있어서...
[12:04] <MENT> 논문도 55페이지라 읽으려면 오래걸릴테니까요
[12:19] <HolyKnight> 2년동안 공부하신다더니
[12:19] <HolyKnight> 도움이 되시겠네유
[12:22] <MENT> 무슨 한이 있어도
[12:22] <MENT> SCI급을 뽑아내야...
[12:22] <MENT> .......
[12:32] <koolDJ> 안녕하세요
[12:35] <koolDJ> 안녕하세요
[12:35] <autowiz> 안녕하세요
[12:35] <koolDJ> 오토위즈님
[12:36] <koolDJ> 로그내역은 어떻게 되었죠 ㅠㅠ
[12:36] <koolDJ> 뭐 당장 안보셔도 되지만 어떻게 되었나 궁금해서요
[12:37] <koolDJ> 아 그냥 윈도우 설치해야하나 ㅠㅠ
[12:37] <autowiz> 원래 그런지는 모르겠는데
[12:37] <autowiz> cpu microcode 관련 워닝이 한줄 있었구요
[12:38] <koolDJ> 아
[12:38] <autowiz> 다른건 못찾겠더라구요 ㅠㅠ
[12:38] <koolDJ> cpu문제인가
[12:38] <koolDJ> 감사합니다
[12:38] <autowiz> 혹시 nolapic 옵션이나 noapic 옵션도 테스트 해보셨나요?
[12:38] <koolDJ> 네
[12:38] <koolDJ> 잘 안먹더라고요
[12:38] <koolDJ> 한번 다시 우분투 설치해보고
[12:38] <koolDJ> 안되면 윈도우써야죠 ㅠㅠ
[12:39] <koolDJ> 정말 감사드립니다
[12:40] <koolDJ> 찾아보니까 바이오스가 OS를 부를때 이상증세가 있다는 모양이군요
[12:40] <autowiz> 혹시 펌웨어 신규버젼은 안나왔을까요?
[12:40] <autowiz> 저도 작년에 같은 모델을 썼었었거든요
[12:40] <autowiz> 지금은 사촌동생이 쓰고 있습니다만
[12:40] <koolDJ> 펌웨어는 안설치했어요
[12:41] <koolDJ> 펌웨어 업그레이드를 해야하나.....
[12:41] <autowiz> 바이오스 업데이트된 버젼이 있는지 찾아보고 있습니다.
[12:43] <autowiz> 노트북 모델명이 어떻게됐었죠? ㅠㅠ
[12:44] <koolDJ> bossmoster x54
[12:44] <koolDJ> 저도 바이오스 펌웨어 살펴보고 있어요
[12:46] <koolDJ> 고객지원에 있는거 같은데 한번 살펴봐야지
[12:48] <autowiz> 2015-08-25 19:04 윈도우즈 10 지원 바이오스라고 있는데
[12:48] <autowiz> 다른 OS 에도 적용되는 부분이 있을 수 도 있으니까
[12:49] <autowiz> 시도는 한번 해봐도 괜찮을거 같습니다.
[12:49] <koolDJ> 감사합니다
[12:49] <koolDJ> 링크 아시나요
[12:49] <koolDJ> 지금 클래보 원본 모델로 구글검색하는데
[12:49] <commania> 혹시 우분투에서 카톡 PC버전 이상없이 사용하시는 분 있나요?
[12:50] <autowiz> http://www.monsterlabs.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=download&wr_id=504&sop=and&sca=%C6%DF%BF%FE%BE%EE&pd_no=&sfl=&stx=&page=2&vmode=
[12:51] <koolDJ> 아니예요 모델이 틀려요
[12:51] <koolDJ> 구글에서 따로 찾아봤는데
[12:51] <koolDJ> http://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/W3xxST/
[12:51] <koolDJ> 여기에 1.03버전이 있는것 같네요
[12:52] <koolDJ> 바이오스상 모델로 찾았고 제 펌웨어가 1.00.03이네요
[12:52] <koolDJ> 한번 설치해보고 우분투를 재설치하도록 하겠습니다
[12:52] <koolDJ> 한성컴퓨터 원본자체가 클래보사 랩톱을 조립한거라
[12:53] <koolDJ> 바이오스상에서는 클래보로 나오네요
[12:53] <koolDJ> 성공하면 팁공유 해드릴께요
[12:57] <autowiz> 네 감사합니다.
[13:00] <koolDJ> 아니예요 감사할건 저예요
[13:00] <koolDJ> 이만 나가볼께요
[16:24] <HolyKnight> 김영삼 前대통령, 혈액감염 치료 중 서거 - 삼가 고인의 명복을 빕니다.
[16:28] <JasonJang> 방금 윗 줄 복/붙 했더니만 "호상이라고 봅니다" 라는 답글이....
[16:30] <HolyKnight> ㅇㅅㅇ
[16:54] <JasonJang> com mania: 제가 쓰다가 몇일전 지웠어요.
[20:57] <samahui_WS> 새벽 운동 왔어요 ㅎㅎ
[22:01] <ipeter> 헛
[22:01] <ipeter> 사마휘님 엄청 부지런하시다..
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.172275
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"JasonJang",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-motu
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[00:30] <mgolisch> there is no easy way to support building packages for different versions of ubuntu that require different versions of a dependency is there? Depends: blah-xxx|blah-yyy seems like a bad idea
[03:42] <Na3iL> o/
[04:17] <Logan> mgolisch: are you talking about a build dependency or a binary dependency? ${shlibs:Depends} should handle the latter
[11:55] <mgolisch> Logan: binary dependency
[12:04] <mgolisch> ill look into dpkg-shlibdeps
[13:06] <mgolisch> yeah that seems to work
[23:04] <Logan> mgolisch: awesome
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.176105
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"Logan",
"Na3iL",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-motu"
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2015-11-21-#lubuntu
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[17:22] <romare> trying to install lubuntu
[17:22] <romare> The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.
[17:22] <romare> got this error
[17:23] <romare> what would that be? of course I googled it but no solution
[18:54] <testdr> romare: that looks like there is no partition table -- more info?
[18:58] <romare> testdr what do you mean? forgive me, I'm really new to it
[18:58] <romare> I clicked "do something else" and new there's a free space
[18:58] <testdr> romare: its what i said -- such error can be triggered if the writing is not possible
[18:58] <romare> with 40GB
[18:59] <romare> you mean it's hardware-related?
[19:00] <testdr> romare: could be - but you can create such things. If you install from an usb-stick - first dont do the install, run the live-version and try to partiition and format your medium, where you want to install later --this is to check for errors. Without errors its not necessary.
[19:02] <romare> shall I format it in what type? ext4?
[19:02] <romare> I'm running it on cd right now
[19:03] <testdr> romare: yes - and mount it then from your running ubuntu-live-version and check it works -- same goes for all your hardware if you dont know.
[19:03] <romare> I'm so sorry, what do you mean by mounting?
[19:04] <romare> ok it's formatting. gosh looks like it'll take too much time
[19:04] <testdr> romare: if you have a faulty harddisk - you may have to run a "badblocks"-check and if there are a lot of errors you may need a replacement
[19:05] <testdr> romare: if formating takes a lot of time - check the error logs like syslog, kern.log -- and if there are a lot of read/write errors and timeouts for this drive .. it may be old and defective
[19:06] <romare> it's pretty old, but I'm quite sure there's no problem with the disc
[19:06] <romare> I need to know how to check those logs
[19:07] <testdr> romare: the logs are in /var/log and i already had a faulty drive with defect cables - changing the cables was the repair - but i too had defect drives with defect drive-head
[19:08] <testdr> romare: this is only a check - it only proves where to look for errors and maybe the cause, why the installation breaks at that point
[19:12] <romare> can't find a HFS filesystem on dev sda2
[19:13] <romare> this is what I saw couple of times in the logs
[19:15] <romare> I've tried installing arch linux a week ago, I remember I typed shitloads of commands with "sda"
[19:15] <romare> I wonder if that fucked it up
[19:33] <testdr> romare: sometimes it helps to blank the first part of harddisk and create a new partition -- you know how to blank sda with dd command?
[19:34] <romare> no
[19:34] <romare> :(
[19:34] <romare> I'm super new
[19:34] <testdr> romare: and always remember - old data will be lost! You need a backup!
[19:34] <romare> I'm not concerned about the data. it's an old computer that I'm not using
[19:35] <osho0000> hi guys i can't get the speed of the momory of my laptop with sudo dmidecode | grep -A 15 Memory nor with sudo lshw -short -C memory
[19:36] <testdr> romare: if you dont need anything from your first harddisk sda, then you can blank it in a linux terminal/console as root (or with sudo) with this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda and after some harddisk-action you can terminate it with ctrl/strg-c or use the count-option ( count=10000 ) to stop it after such number of writen blocks
[19:38] <testdr> osho0000: check the bios settings -- and from the boot-meny try the "memtest" program -- it will display the timing it can measure
[19:39] <osho0000> so, i must go in the Bios?
[19:40] <testdr> osho0000: normaly the compute-boot will show bios-messages about such things - but if bios is set to boot quick, you have no time to read it (humans are too slow)
[20:04] <romare> testdr, thank you so much for all the answers
[20:13] <osho0000> redwolf in the bios i can't find the mhz od the ram
[20:15] <osho0000> only the size
[20:15] <redwolf> in the BIOS?
[20:16] <redwolf> well, that will depend on your computer and core version
[20:16] <redwolf> but osho0000, if you want to know your memory and other physical things about your computer use Hardware Profiler
[20:17] <osho0000> it is a program?
[20:19] <testdr> romare: if you install for a special language setting - then it may help to cut the internet during the first install and install language-parts later, after you are shure the install works
[20:23] <romare> testdr, I installed and restarted it. now it won't boot to lubuntu. it says "out of range" (it's the monitor's interface) for a while and then screen goes dark and the led of the monitor becomes orange.
[20:26] <testdr> romare: yes - could happen with some hardware. Does it work to switch to a console with ctrl/strg alt F1 (all pressed together)
[20:27] <romare> forgive me, what is strg?
[20:28] <romare> oh oh okay
[20:28] <romare> at what screen should I press them?
[20:28] <testdr> romare: the same like "ctrl" .. some keyboards have this written on --its the key left from alt
[20:31] <romare> nothing works
[20:33] <testdr> romare: then reboot and in the grub-boot-menu select the repair option to boot into the non-graphic-screen --- looks like your install uses a setting for a wrong monitor or graka-output. You know what graphic-card is used?
[20:33] <testdr> romare: to get into the boot-menu (if it is not enabled to pop up) press Shift-key at booting
[20:34] <Chaotic_Fear> Heya. How can I make desktop notifications play an alert sound in Lubuntu? Google has failed me.
[20:37] <testdr> romare: the menu-entry in the gub-boot-menu is in an submenu called "extended" or advanced and there it is called "recovery mode"
[20:38] <testdr> romare: if you can use google for more infos - there are web-hints with images how to get into the ubuntu recovery mode and reset drivers like a wrong graphic-card-driver
[20:48] <cimbakahn> Hello!
[20:48] <cimbakahn> Does Lubuntu come with PPAs when it is first installed?
[20:49] <cimbakahn> How fast is Lubuntu?
[20:52] <krytarik> cimbakahn: Nope. Very.
[20:52] <Unit193> No official Ubuntu flavor does.
[20:53] <cimbakahn> You mean no official flavor in the Ubuntu camp comes with PPAs, correct?
[20:54] <cimbakahn> And it is very fast, yes?
[20:55] <testdr> cimbakahn: if you speak about 32bit-enhanced memory usage for old computers - only very old ones had it enabled, its a kernel-build thing
[20:55] <testdr> cimbakahn: a think ubuntu-10.04 or 8.04 32bit had it as default
[20:56] <cimbakahn> I just want a operating system that is lite on CPU and resorce usage.
[20:56] <cimbakahn> resource
[20:57] <testdr> cimbakahn: sorry -- what you tink is PPA -- do i understand it wrong?
[20:58] <Unit193> testdr: PPA == Personal Package Archive (or something like that.)
[21:01] <testdr> Unit193: thanks .. right -- i thought (why? dont know) its the access to extended memory in old 32bit mode
[21:01] <Unit193> testdr: Tjat
[21:01] <Unit193> Erm..
[21:01] <Unit193> That's PAE.
[21:01] <cimbakahn> A PPA is what you paste into your sources to be able to get extra programs that normally don't come with the distro. <---- These PPAs is what i wanted to know about.
[21:01] <testdr> Unit193: yes .. thats the 3 chars .. i got into mind
[21:02] <romare> testdr I press shift but it won't work
[21:03] <romare> fuck I gotta walk my dog
[21:03] <romare> it's not a good day
[21:04] <Unit193> romare: No cursing please.
[21:05] <testdr> romare: you have a "long way" to fix it, first check this for press SHIFT at boot: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time
[21:07] <testdr> romare: a single press of SHIFT is not enough -- you have to keep it down or click it all the time at boot
[21:48] <romare> it's cancer. I stop now
[21:48] <romare> for a long time.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.180847
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-pl
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[07:53] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/uzuUppt.jpg
[09:28] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/XDH06iq.jpg
[09:28] <TheNumb> Ashiren: moar
[10:31] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/YwhyQXP.jpg
[10:32] <Ashiren> !seen Globetrotter
[10:32] <lubotu3`> I have no seen command
[10:32] <Ashiren> argh
[10:32] <Ashiren> hmm
[10:32] <Ashiren> !help
[10:32] <lubotu3`> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[10:32] <TheNumb> Ashiren: lubotu chyba tego nie ma.
[10:34] <TheNumb> Ashiren: grepnąłem logi i...
[10:34] <TheNumb> 2015-11-21.log:[11:32:24] <Ashiren> !seen Globetrotter
[10:34] <TheNumb> nic wincyj
[10:35] <Ashiren> w sumie to nie na tym kanale mialo byc
[10:35] <TheNumb> mhm
[10:39] <grek> czesc zna sie moze ktos na vagrancie - mam cos takiego
[10:39] <grek> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33842104/varnish-4-x-cache-miss
[10:39] <grek> niby dziala ale dla innego usera licznik znowu jest od 0
[10:48] <grek> na varnishu :)
[11:16] <TheNumb> co to znaczy "dla innego usera"?
[11:18] <Dread> no właśnie?
[11:20] <Ashiren> dla innego użytkownika
[11:20] <Dread> to żeś pomógł
[11:20] <Dread> wracaj swoje koty molestować
[11:21] <Ashiren> o.o https://i.imgur.com/MoYNwFG.png
[11:58] <grek> na jednej przegladarce licznik rosnie
[11:59] <grek> wlaczam inna i idzie od poczatku - jak by cachowal dla konkretnego usera i to na chwile bo po paru minutach mam znowy licznik od 0
[11:59] <grek> do tego bardzo malo ramu zuzywa
[11:59] <grek> czyli cos nie dziala
[13:32] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/bvmveyQ.jpg
[13:35] <firemark> a ten dalej…
[13:37] <Ashiren> no oczywiscie
[16:03] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/uxeOBuZ.jpg
[21:13] <Ashiren> :3 https://i.imgur.com/FyHeRBL.jpg
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.188106
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"Dread",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-kernel
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[11:09] <apw> gQuigs (N,BFTL), you can pretty much follow any of it, as the proceedure is document the fix/testing in the bug, and submit the patch to the kernel-team@ list
[20:03] <linuxr> Hi all...I just experienced a full system freeze....is there any way to find out why post-mortem?
[20:47] <JanC> linuxr: you can check if there is anything in the logs
[20:47] <linuxr> JanC, found nothing in the logs at the time of the crash...this doesn't give me a bad feeling
[20:48] <linuxr> I mean gives me bad feeling hehe
[20:49] <JanC> you could also check if there is anything suspicious before
[20:52] <linuxr> no messages for hours before the crash, unfortunately...I see no indications of any problems
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.190131
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"JanC",
"apw",
"linuxr"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel"
}
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-tr
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[21:30] <at_rjd> command: baba
[21:31] <command> !p
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.190734
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"at_rjd",
"command"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-tr"
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2015-11-21-#lubuntu-devel
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[15:51] <phillw> LXQt meeting in 10 minutes on #lxde
[16:26] <gilir> Hum .. I feel home :-)
[16:28] <phillw> he he, safe here. I've pinged unit 193 so as to ask him to have a look at the mode set on #phillw.
[16:35] <gilir> phillw, do you have the log about the problem on lxqt-metapakage and lxqt-panel ?
[16:37] <phillw> gilir: I will pull it, it is on a VM so not the easiest to get information from!
[16:39] <gilir> yes :-(
[16:41] <phillw> gilir: is sddm with plfiorini an alternative to openbox?
[16:42] <gilir> phillw, no sddm is an alternative to lightdm
[16:43] <phillw> ah, okies... so still install openbox :)
[16:44] <gilir> yes, I don't plan to use kwin :-p
[17:18] <joern_s> gilir, do you have a minute for me?
[17:19] <phillw> gilir: I've installed shutter, so it there may be a gap in posting up images. For some reason my install is that confused it no longer takes screen shots using any combination of keys +PrtSc
[17:19] <gilir> joern_s, I have 5 for phillw so I can have 1 for you :-)
[17:19] <joern_s> :D
[17:20] <joern_s> I'm still working on generating isos for LXQt (currently Wily)
[17:20] <joern_s> there is some strange behaviour that I don't understand
[17:21] <joern_s> mounting the squashfs works for the live session, but when the user (or the installer) tries to mount it a second time, it doesn't work but fails more or less silently
[17:22] <joern_s> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13313033/
[17:22] <joern_s> any ideas?
[17:27] <gilir> joern_s, no sorry :-( I don't see anything special in the log
[17:27] <joern_s> that is what makes me nervous
[17:28] <joern_s> my only hint was:
[17:28] <joern_s> [ 19.399266] systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/casper.service:10] Failed to parse input specifier, ignoring: force-tty
[17:28] <joern_s> [ 19.402831] systemd[1]: rofs.mount: Unit is bound to inactive unit dev-loop0.device. Stopping, too.
[17:29] <phillw> gilir: http://phillw.net/lxqtinstall.png
[17:30] <phillw> sorry for delay, shutter decided not to play!
[17:31] <phillw> gilir: is that enough to go on or do you want me to extract any logs / settings for you?
[17:32] <gilir> phillw, I pushed an update to lxqt-panel, if it's still a problem tomorrow, I'll do an install to check it
[17:32] <phillw> gilir: when will the update hit the feed for the meta-package?
[17:35] <gilir> phillw, look at the version number of lxqt-panel, if it's something like 0.10+... it's the updated package
[17:37] <phillw> gilir: dpkg -l reports it is not there
[17:37] <phillw> which, from the error report, makes sense.
[17:42] <phillw> gilir: http://phillw.net/lxqtinstall-force.png
[17:44] <gilir> phillw, I know this one :-/
[17:48] <gilir> phillw, next update of lubuntu-default-settings will fix this
[17:48] <gilir> it's building so, a couple of hours max
[17:51] <phillw> gilir: cool! that is using the 'add to lubuntu' one... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt#Installing_LXQt_on_fresh_system still needs a lot of work... (Doesn't pull in the lubuntu art-work for a start)
[17:53] <phillw> and... here's the wolf :D
[17:54] <phillw> redwolf: the stuff about .po and .tl I have a link for the guy to ask on translations.
[17:54] <redwolf> sorries, I'm late. I was out
[17:55] <redwolf> nice!
[17:56] <phillw> redwolf: until he mentioned pootle, it had completely slipped my mind.. anyways, that I can sort you the person out for and gilir agreed to 'sell' you to the guy at LXQt who is doing their design stuff so you can get quickly up to full speed on Qt5
[17:56] <redwolf> I love that!
[17:56] <redwolf> so I'm his temporary slave now?
[17:57] <phillw> you got sold to two of them :D
[17:57] <redwolf> O.O
[17:58] <phillw> once the logs are posted up, you will see the full meeting and the people's email addys to contact on the two areas.
[17:58] <redwolf> good, anyway I think gilir is going to send me some addresses and things and stuff :)
[17:59] <phillw> yeah, they were in the meeting.... myself and gsilva are volunteered for wiki / docs, and wxl had all the lubuntu testers volunteered.... So, that removes any "them" and "us" :P
[18:01] <redwolf> :)
[18:46] <phillw> gilir: when (roughly) do you expect " next update of lubuntu-default-settings will fix this " to land and be in xenial ?
[18:48] <gilir> phillw, couple of hours
[18:49] <gsilva> Something wrong, phillw ?
[18:49] <phillw> okies, so will it be okay to try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/LXQt#Adding_LXQt_to_an_exisiting_lubuntu_installation again?
[18:50] <phillw> gsilva: nope.. will talk very soon :)
[18:50] <gsilva> Sure. Send me an email if I'm not around ;)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.207204
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"gilir",
"gsilva",
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu+1
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[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> defcon6: its lil early stage for xenial mate
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> defcon6: things can still break
[19:30] <defcon6> hi guys. I just updated to 16.04 and am wondering about the Unity8 DE. Last time I tried to install and run it did not work and froze my computer. Is it usable in version 16.04 or is it still to soon?
[19:31] <defcon6> lotuspsychje: i havent had a problem so far. Only program that crashes is the Calibre book program otherwise everthing else is not too bad.
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> !info unity8 xenial
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> optional
[19:53] <defcon6> ubottu: if you have used unity8 what is your opinion on how usable it is?
[20:46] <lotus|xenial> !info xpad xenial
[20:46] <lotus|xenial> !msgthebot | user___
[20:46] <user___> hi guys, where do I find which version packages will be shipped in 16.04 on this moment?
[20:48] <k1l> user___: the versions still may be changed since its before the freeze
[20:49] <lotus|xenial> k1l: testing unity8/mir on xenial right now :p
[20:49] <user___> k1l: I know, but I would like to know if a certain package is already available, and which version it has currently, whith in mind it would be changed towards release
[20:49] <lotus|xenial> user___: wich package
[20:49] <k1l> user___: packages.ubuntu.com
[20:50] <k1l> user___: select xenial there, see the version.
[20:50] <user___> lotus|xenial: for example rofi, i3,
[20:50] <k1l> keep in mind its still alpha and the version may change untill freeze
[20:50] <lotus|xenial> !info i3 xenial
[20:52] <user___> ubottu: thank you
[20:52] <user___> ubottu: didn't know, lol
[20:53] <user___> k1l: do you also mean that a package can have a downgraded version?
[20:56] <lotus|xenial> user___: package versions will only go up
[20:57] <user___> lotus|xenial: that's also what I thought, thank you for clarification
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.212031
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"BluesKaj",
"defcon6",
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"lotus|xenial",
"user___"
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-irc
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[03:07] <c> /18/4
[10:23] <Zic> hi here, my subscribe to ~ubuntu-irc-members team on Launchpad expires on 2015-11-19 and I forgot to renew it :( can someone resubscribe me or is it too late? thanks anyway
[10:24] <Zic> (my account on Launchpad is ~zic)
[20:42] <kbrosnan> i was ctcp pinged by ywh_1 on nick change
[20:42] <kbrosnan> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8852798
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.213569
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2015-11-21-#maas
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[22:46] <mup> Bug #1518633 opened: Internal server error on "bad" ipv6 netmask <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518633>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.214170
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-fi
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[22:24] <eebb> Iltaa. Olisiko jollain antaa vinkkia siihen, etta miten voisi palauttaa kadonneen Ubuntun ..? Naen kylla partitionin LiveCD:lla ja komennolla 'parted print', mutta sen partitionin tyyppi on Extended ja filesystem on tyhja.
[22:26] <eebb> Ongelma tuli sen jalkeen kun paivitin Win7->Win10, ja kone kaynnistyi "grub rescueen". Taman jalkeen sain koneen kaynnistymaan Win10:lle kayttamalla Boot Repair Diskia. Sen outputtia voi ihmetella osoitteessa http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402884/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.215589
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2015-11-21-#ubuntustudio
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[07:57] <keys> Hi. I am new to Ubuntu studio and I am just about to set up my first machin. However I am not quite sure which iso to choose. I.e 32 vs 64 bit and Trusty Tahr vs Wily Werewolf. The machine is a Thinkpad T61 with 4 gb ram. I will mainly use Pure Data and Supercollider. Any recommendations?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.217865
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[13:10] <rmg51> off to PACS
[13:10] <rmg51> talk to the bear
[13:13] * waltman knows the bear doesn't talk, but offers him some chocolates
[13:13] <KyleYankan> Did you bring the bear light?
[13:14] <waltman> Always.
[13:14] <waltman> I mean, never. I thought that was JonathanD's job.
[13:46] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.219148
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-news
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[00:59] <tsimonq2> pleia2: ping, question
[01:00] <tsimonq2> wxl! are you on the News team in any way? :D
[01:01] <pleia2> tsimonq2: ask away
[01:02] <tsimonq2> pleia2: could you go over my first summary? It seems good, and I tried to use your suggestions...
[01:02] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I will leave a comment where I would like you to read
[01:03] <pleia2> tsimonq2: just one little edit
[01:04] <pleia2> I need to log off for the evening (I take Saturdays off, starting at sundown on Friday)
[01:04] <pleia2> thanks for your work on the summaries :)
[01:04] <tsimonq2> pleia2: yep :)
[01:09] <wxl> tsimonq2: yes, i have contributed before
[01:09] <wxl> not so much in a while
[01:09] * wxl hangs his head in shame
[01:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: I am a regular summary writer
[01:13] <wxl> nice
[01:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: feel free to contribute this round!
[01:14] <tsimonq2> wxl: just write a summary here: http://v.gd/8Qei0T
[01:14] <tsimonq2> don't hang your head in shame!
[01:14] <tsimonq2> :D
[01:14] <wxl> i'll get back to it eventually
[01:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: I should add it to my wiki page :D
[01:19] <Na3iL> I wanna contribute but idk how :P
[01:19] <wxl> get on the mailing list Na3iL
[01:20] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: go to the document( http://v.gd/8Qei0T )
[01:21] <Na3iL> Done wxl
[01:21] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: then just edit where it is indicated
[01:21] <Na3iL> tsimonq2, I am already there okay
[01:21] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: I have done 2 already, so just follow my example for the first one
[01:21] <Na3iL> I think I will be very helpful in the documentation section!
[01:21] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: either way, just read and write a summary of what it says
[01:22] <Na3iL> Understood tsimonq2
[01:23] <tsimonq2> k
[01:25] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: if you like summary writing, subscribe to the ubuntu-news mailing list here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-news-team and email [email protected] asking to get your name on the list of summary writers. Then, you are contacted each week by email when summaries need writing.
[01:25] <tsimonq2> or ubuntu-news-team, rather
[01:25] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: have fun :)
[01:26] <Na3iL> Thanks tsimonq2 I appreciate you, otherwise, is there any team for the wiki pages of Ubuntu News?
[01:26] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: and either way, add your name to the credits on the bottom :)
[01:26] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: this is what goes on the wiki page
[01:27] <Na3iL> Ah! okay
[01:27] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: so when it is released, it is just copied over from the doc
[01:27] <Na3iL> Roger that!
[01:27] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: all I am is a summary writer, so if you want details on editing, ping pleia2
[01:28] <Na3iL> She is AFK I think I will contact her when she is available
[01:28] <Na3iL> Thank you tsimonq2
[01:28] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: and have a read here, for more details: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/
[01:28] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: she gets back on Sunday if you need more details
[01:28] <Na3iL> 0kay
[01:29] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: if you have any more questions on summary writing, ping me :)
[01:29] <tsimonq2> Na3iL: have a nice night :)
[01:30] <Na3iL> Thank you tsimonq2 you too mate :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.223736
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-dk
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[22:56] <Ubuntubruger9> er der nogen på chatten?
[22:57] <Ubuntubruger9> ?spørgsmål hvorfor får jeg ikke min aktiverings mail fra forummet ? : )
[23:06] <Ubuntubruger9> er der nogen ?
[23:29] <jw4000> ?spørgsmål hvornår får man sin aktiverings mail fra forummet?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.226351
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-hr
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[07:33] <dodobas> yutro
[09:10] <vileni> jutro
[09:11] <SilverSpace> jutroooo
[11:36] <vileni> Cons: Conservative - due to its support for many processor architectures, newer technologies are not always included; slow release cycle (one stable release every 1 - 3 years); discussions on developer mailing lists and blogs can be uncultured at times
[12:03] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan
[13:02] <Mmike> vileni, uturio
[13:02] <Mmike> vileni, ti si ono softether turao?
[13:02] <Mmike> ili tko ?
[13:02] <Mmike> moram vpn naturit nekome pa gledam jel' da openvpn uzmem il' da probam taj softetherdreker
[13:18] <Mmike> dodobas, cim ti backupiras lvmove? Imas neki alatek zgodni s kojim mosh cijeli LVM strpat u neki fajl, zakompresirat i rec 'tu cekaj dok te ne trebam opet'
[13:19] <dodobas> nope :)
[13:21] <jelly> jel se racuna zgodna rucno pisana skripta
[13:27] <vileni> Mmike: imao jednom probno, nism bas koristio
[13:27] <Mmike> jelly, daj sto das! :)
[13:27] <Mmike> vileni, i, kak ti se cinilo?
[13:27] <vileni> Mmike: preglomazno
[13:27] <Mmike> eh
[13:27] <Mmike> i meni :)
[13:27] <Mmike> odustao sam, dobit ce op4envpn
[13:27] <Mmike> spajaju se u neku petnajstu firmu s tim drekom
[13:27] <vileni> openvpn je kul ako imas server dostupan od bilokuda
[13:28] <Mmike> pa kao ne zele dva klijenta razlicita
[13:28] <vileni> Mmike: tinc zvuci fora
[13:28] <Mmike> vileni, kak mislis - ako imas server dostsupan od bilokuda?
[13:28] <vileni> Mmike: pa moras nekako doci do openvpn servera
[13:28] <Mmike> pa kaj to ne vrijedi za softether?
[13:28] <vileni> ako imas recimo 2 lokacije sa dinamickim ip adresama, onda nije prakticno
[13:29] <vileni> mislim da oni imaju neki svoj servis koji rjesava to
[13:29] <Mmike> dyndns?
[13:30] <vileni> neznam, mozda neki koriste svoj server za uspostavu komunikacije izmedju klijenata
[13:31] <jelly> Mmike: tebi ce biti beskorisna jer ne sprema u fajl nego na backup server
[13:31] <Mmike> jelly, adaptirat cemo :)
[13:31] <Mmike> vileni, ma koriste, sad bi reko sta koriste
[13:32] <Mmike> openvpn ce dobit, s tim najmanje muke
[13:32] <jelly> adaptirat poziv tivoli storage manager backup klijenta? :-)
[13:34] <Mmike> primjecujem, jelly, da ti tu svoje uratke najvise skrivas :)
[13:35] <jelly> Mmike: http://jebo.me/pas/9
[13:35] <Mmike> jelly++ :)
[13:35] <jelly> i kaj ces s tim... nist
[13:35] <Mmike> gledat kak pises bash cist :)
[13:35] <Mmike> moram kavu jos jednu
[13:36] <jelly> pa da, jedino to
[13:41] <vileni> izgleda da snijeg pada
[13:41] <jelly> di
[13:41] <vileni> jos je i pristojan u skriptama
[13:41] <vileni> # just vg, please
[13:43] <vileni> na autoputu je fino napadao
[13:43] <vileni> ovdje onako, mijesano sa kisom poceo
[13:44] <vileni> frend bas vuce prikolicu sa autom gore
[14:02] <jelly> .weather zagreb
[14:02] <datase> jelly: Weather for Zagreb, Croatia | Temperature: 36°F / 2°C (Wind Chill: 32°F / 0°C); Humidity: 93%; Pressure: 29.44in / 99.7kPa; Conditions: Light rain; Wind: East, 5mph / 8kph; Updated: 2 mins, 14 secs ago | Forecast for Saturday: Rain; High of 41°F / 5°C; Low of 37°F / 3°C | Forecast for Sunday: Chance of rain; High of 46°F / 8°C; Low of 30°F / -1°C | Forecast for Monday: Overcast; High of 47°F / 8°C; (1 more message)
[14:02] <jelly> .weather sisak
[14:02] <datase> jelly: Weather for Sisak, Croatia | Temperature: 36°F / 2°C (Wind Chill: 32°F / 0°C); Humidity: 93%; Pressure: 29.44in / 99.7kPa; Conditions: Light rain; Wind: East, 5mph / 8kph; Updated: 2 mins, 29 secs ago | Forecast for Saturday: Rain; High of 45°F / 7°C; Low of 36°F / 2°C | Forecast for Sunday: Chance of rain; High of 47°F / 8°C; Low of 28°F / -2°C | Forecast for Monday: Overcast; High of 47°F / 8°C; (1 more message)
[14:17] <Mmike> vileni, zakaj ti ne kreiras logicne voljumtre sa virshom?
[14:47] <SilverSpace> .weather maksimir
[14:47] <dodobas> .weather u_kurcu
[14:48] <Mmike> super je
[14:48] <Mmike> snijegara
[14:54] <vileni> Mmike: pa neznam, prije smo radili rucno
[14:57] <vileni> Mmike: ako padne snijeg sigurno ces se htjeti ici voziti
[14:58] <vileni> pa da te podsjetim za disk, jer inace necu imati na cemu kreirati logicne voljume :)
[15:14] <Mmike> lol :D
[15:14] <Mmike> cek da vidim odmah za disk
[15:14] <Mmike> da g apripremim
[15:14] * Mmike optuzio zenu da mu je popila viski
[15:14] <Mmike> a kad ono, ishlapilo
[15:15] <vileni> da, hlapi taj alkohol u blizini zena :)
[15:18] <obruT> ja se bas sinoc zazelio, al doma trenutno samo famous grouse imam :P
[15:20] <jelly> Mmike: jel to radi mira u kuci "vjerujes" u tu pricu
[15:27] <SilverSpace> lol brzo to hlapi
[15:28] <Mmike> naravno
[15:28] <Mmike> inace bi ispalo da se ne sjecam kad sam popio :L)
[15:30] <dodobas> a bar je dete bilo mirno... iako viskija vise nema :)
[15:30] <SilverSpace> dete popilo :)
[19:58] <hbogner> o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.241795
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:57] <lotuspsychje> good (early) morning all
[01:06] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-s-ip-policy-is-vague-for-a-reason-but-matthew-garrett-says-ubuntu-is-not-free-496496.shtml
[01:38] <lotuspsychje> heyia daftykins :p
[01:38] <daftykins> ^_^ o/
[01:38] <daftykins> just popped back after grabbing my laptop adapter
[01:39] <lotuspsychje> :p
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> morning OerHeks :p
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> insomnia too?
[01:43] <OerHeks> no, maybe ..
[01:43] <OerHeks> :-D
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> 24/7 support heh
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> full house here, hi Ben64 :p
[02:05] <daftykins> well i'm actually playing a game now ^_^
[02:06] <TJ-> morning :)
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> hey there TJ-
[02:14] <daftykins> o/
[02:16] <TJ-> Anyone here got an HTC One M8 ?
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> bq here :p
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: whats the issue
[02:17] <daftykins> TJ-: yeah i've got one upstairs doing nothing with stock 5.x installed
[02:17] <Ben64> hi lotuspsychje
[02:22] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Ooooo my friend :)
[02:23] <TJ-> I've got Cyanogenmod 12.1 on mine, and am hacking the Duo Camera UFocus capability so its available for Cyanogenmod users. I would like to get an 'adb logcat' capture that includes the Camera app being started for the first time after power-on.
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> oh never played with cyan
[02:24] <TJ-> I've already figured out the reason it doesn't work on CM is that the code is trying to read a customized 'bundle' of settings, and so I'm trying to identify what creates that bundle - it could be a missing Java class, or it might be text settings in an XML file shipped with the phone.
[02:24] <daftykins> mmhmm, so as simple as throwing debug mode on, plugging into the PC and using adb; i can do that, i have a minimal adb and fastboot install on my desktop
[02:26] <TJ-> daftykins: right, precisely that. Power up phone from off so nothing's already been done, from the PC do "adb logcat |& tee /tmp/m8.log" and then start the Camera application and use it to take a UFocus photo (not sure if there's some user-controlled setting in the app to choose UFocus, or if it is automatic)
[02:26] <daftykins> hrmm not even heard of such a thing before
[02:27] <TJ-> I currently see this on CM 12.1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383367/
[02:28] <TJ-> daftykins: the One M8 has 2 main cameras, 1 of which captures depth-of-field info, that allows the Gallery app/Effects/UFocus function to change the object of focus in the picture
[02:30] <daftykins> weird, i just powered it up and it says safe mode in the corner - i sense that might throw things?
[02:30] <TJ-> I've decompiled the Camera.apk to Java code using JDL-GUI so I have the source on view, but the method that throws the exception doesn't get decompiled correctly, so I'm a bit in the dark. I've just downloaded the stock M8 ROM image and am working on that, too
[02:31] <TJ-> Safe mode? You installed windows on it? :D
[02:31] <daftykins> lawl
[02:31] <TJ-> I think that happens when the buttons get pressed in certain ways at power-up
[02:33] <daftykins> weird, don't think i was leaning on anything
[02:33] <daftykins> ok debug mode on, rebooted so it's normal, just installed on this lappy will get adb going
[02:33] <TJ-> thanks :)
[02:34] <daftykins> yay adb working, often you have to get a windows driver that works =|
[02:34] <daftykins> so i'll run the camera app
[02:34] <daftykins> do i need to go to anything specific within?
[02:36] <daftykins> nm i re-read, gonna try to find this feature
[02:37] <TJ-> It may be entirely automatic; I replaced stock immediately I got the phone in 2014 so can't recall
[02:37] <daftykins> okie dokie lets try
[02:40] <daftykins> TJ-: not sure if i got the right bit; http://www.techblo.gg/stuff/log.txt
[02:44] <TJ-> wow, that output looks amazingly different to the logs I captured
[02:44] <daftykins> android 5.0.1 on this guy atm
[02:45] <daftykins> happy to try anything else you like whilst it's here
[02:47] <TJ-> ahhh, I see why
[02:48] <TJ-> Just found some tips on the Android Dev web site
[02:48] <daftykins> oh ja?
[02:48] <TJ-> "By default, the Android system sends stdout and stderr (System.out and System.err) output to /dev/null. "
[02:49] <TJ-> apparently, to enable it we do "adb shell stop; adb shell setprop log.redirect-stdio true; adb shell start" ... then the "adb logcat ... " again
[02:50] <TJ-> Directions at the end of this page: http://developer.android.com/tools/debugging/debugging-log.html#outputFormat
[02:51] <daftykins> TJ-: http://www.techblo.gg/stuff/log.txt updated
[02:51] <daftykins> or replaced, even
[02:51] <daftykins> all those commands were accepted by the minimal adb i have here, so i assume they were honoured
[02:54] <daftykins> doesn't hugely look that different does it? :S
[02:56] <TJ-> Unfortunately not, that's a shame!
[02:57] <daftykins> it could be this thing i'm using then, would it be of any use to throw the tools on a Linux laptop i have around instead; then let you SSH in and have a fiddle with getting adb running properly?
[02:57] <TJ-> my log has none of those 'mm-camera' entries. Seems to be totally different
[02:57] <TJ-> I don't think so, I suspect its related to the HTC spin of the ROM
[02:57] <daftykins> ah right
[02:57] <daftykins> i've been keeping this thing around with the idea to update it when marshmallow goes live, heh
[02:57] <TJ-> I know there are a lot of classes of the name-style HTCWrapXXXX where XXXX is some standard Android
[02:57] <daftykins> probably need to sell this phone
[02:57] <TJ-> class name
[03:00] <TJ-> I have what is supposed to be a stock ROM image here so I'll plug away in that to try to figure it out.
[03:00] <daftykins> how on earth does this thing use 6.62GB of the storage after a factory reset 0o
[03:04] <TJ-> the ROM image is about 1.5GB compressed ZIP
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: it"s FOSS website has alot of nice tuts, maybe you can find what your looking for there?
[03:07] <daftykins> i think it's more treading new ground getting this camera stuff working off the official ROM :)
[03:07] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: unfortunately they don't document the Camera to that degree; The issue appears to be that stock and custom ROMs with te HTC 'Sense' interface have UFocus support, others don't. So I'm trying to track down what else is needed to add to enable this. currently it looks like this CustomizedBundle is the key
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> or maybe the XDA forums also very handy
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> there might be some HTC8 projects there
[03:08] <TJ-> XDA is clueless too; There's isloated camera packages that work on Sense-based ROMs, but no one has put in the effort to analyse what is needed without a Sense ROM
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> ic
[03:09] <daftykins> this is the problem with going custom ROM, you get rid of all the junk on the official... but some features just don't work
[03:09] <TJ-> I actually know what I'm looking for - what I don't know is where it is stored, and it what kind of file! It could be a simple .xml properties file or a Java Class file with attributes
[03:10] * daftykins hands over a Sherlock Holmes hat
[03:13] <TJ-> the HTC Camera has a class FeatureConfig, with a .query() method. It checks a linked-list of FeatureConfig objects, each of which contains a 'feature' flag. Currently its returning "W/FeatureConfig( 4296): mIsUFocusSupported:false" mIsUFocusSupported is the one I have to change.
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: can this help for dir search? http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/cyanogenmod/cyanogen-camera/cyanogen-camera-2-0-005-04864afef4-00-android-apk-download/
[03:14] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: unfortunately not; the stock camera app doesn't know about the Duo/Ufocus camera, I'm working with the com.htc.camera Camera code from the HTC ROM
[03:14] <TJ-> You can install the HTC Camera and Gallery apps from the Play Store; the problem is they don't enable the UFocus support due to this issue I'm hacking on
[03:15] <daftykins> i didn't even twig why there are the two rear cams :D
[03:15] <TJ-> It seems there's something done when the entire Sense API classes/configs are installed that causes a FeatureConfig class to be instantiated that has the mIsUFocusSupported set to true
[03:15] <daftykins> only got given this thing by my mum when i got asked to move her data over to the LG G4
[03:16] <TJ-> I know the class that sets it - what I have to find is the code/file that causes that class to be instantiated
[03:17] <TJ-> daftykins: the M8 camera is amazing - it has ultra-large CCD pixels so works really well in low-light conditions, and this DepthMap means you can pull out detail from a photo logn after it was taken
[03:17] <daftykins> kinda like shooting RAW?
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: how about this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15077257/windows-phone-8-htc-8x-flashlight-does-not-turn-onwithout-using-camera
[03:18] <TJ-> No, the CCD actually takes in more photons per pixel, so though its 'only' a 4 mega-pixel, those pixels collect a lot more photons
[03:19] <daftykins> funky tech!
[03:19] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: no, that's a Windows Phone 8 API security issue - the app has to claim rights to the camera to control the flash
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> just trying to find relevant files/dirs :p
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: how about this: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/Camera.html
[03:23] <daftykins> ;)
[03:24] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: unfortunately not; this stuff is all specific to the M8's Duo camera setup, and it capturing a DepthMap using the 2nd camera, and storing that in the photo data so it can be used by the Photo Editor
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> right
[03:24] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: none of the stock Android code knows anything about the Duo/Ufocus
[03:25] <TJ-> I even have the HTC DuoCamera SDK but its for application writers, it doesn't go into detail on the underlying driver functionality
[03:29] <TJ-> There are so many parallel tracks to follow and compare to find the differences I've got lost! Time for a coffee
[03:30] <TJ-> daftykins: thanks for the logs; there may be some clues in them yet, once I'm a bit clearer on what to be looking for
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/99456-will-ufocus-or-the-double-camera-function-work-on-cm11-m9-or-m10/
[03:32] <daftykins> TJ-: :D my pleasure; although i already deleted the files so i hope you snagged a copy :>
[03:34] <TJ-> yeah, I did
[03:34] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yeah, already been there :)
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: http://mostlyirrelevant.info/2015/08/19/duo-camera-support-for-htc-one-m8-roms/ ?
[03:35] <TJ-> daftykins: hmmm, question: did you have the Camera app in Video or Stills mode?
[03:35] <daftykins> TJ-: stills definitely, took a couple of pics of the cat by tapping on the still square/circle before ending the cap :D
[03:35] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: right, that page has the table showing the support matrix across Sense and non-Sense ROMs
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> The trouble for people who like to use custom ROMs is that many non-stock (Sense) based ROMs break the Duo camera because the camera drivers do not capture the necessary additional photographic data to make post-processing possible. Here’s a compatibility matrix to figure out if you’ll be able to use Duo camera effects like U-Focus:
[03:36] <TJ-> daftykins: OK... I asked due to "W/System.err(12741): at com.htc.camera.component.AudioManager.setVolumePanelOrientation(AudioManager.java:887)"
[03:37] <daftykins> hey lotus' link says something about HTC gallery update, this phone being reset might need an update of some kind?
[03:37] <TJ-> daftykins: in your logs there's some Class/process running called "HfmClient" - I don't see that on CM, I'm wondering if it could be the missing link
[03:38] <daftykins> :D
[03:38] <daftykins> is that in your image too?
[03:38] <TJ-> daftykins: right, originally folks had to install the HTC Camera.apk/Gallery.apk by sideloading via Recovery... then HTC released those apps on the Play store and they contain updates, so you can install the apps directly rather than side-loading
[03:39] <daftykins> hmm, so would i maybe have needed to add a google account and grab that for it to supply the data you needed?
[03:39] <TJ-> "HfmClient" makes me think the "H" stands for HTC ... not sure about the rest, but its not in the Cyanogenmod images
[03:39] <daftykins> right now it's just been turned on after a factory reset, then every menu skipped to get it to the home screen
[03:39] <TJ-> No, since that phone has the stock HTC ROM that always contains the UFocus code
[03:39] <daftykins> ah ok
[03:40] <TJ-> I actually found a properties XML file in the Camera.apk ufocus.xml that has no settings and I'm reall, really, hoping all I need do is add some magical attribute there :)
[03:40] <daftykins> hehe
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:41] <TJ-> The way the FeatureConfig works, as far as I can tell, is all features are disabled unless some confguration parameter specifically enables them
[03:41] <daftykins> reverse engineering some companies' approach to a topic must be so enlightening / horrifying all at once
[03:42] <TJ-> So it could be as stupidly simply as adding "<config attrib="mIsUfocusSupported" value="true" />
[03:43] <TJ-> The Camera.apk I'm working from has another, related, FeatureConfig value set to true. If I can find how that is configured in the APK I might be able to deduce how to enable the other features
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> chinese for me :p
[03:51] <TJ-> daftykins's log has some similar entries: "W/HTCCamera(12741): onPause() - mIsUIReady = false" - that 'mIsUIReady' also appears in my CM12/Camera.apk logs "W/HTCCamera( 4296): onPause() - mIsUIReady = false"
[04:01] <TJ-> daftykins: I don't think that phone does have UFocus support! I found 2 matching blocks in the log files, and on mine after "W/UIComponentFactory(14969): Creating component 'Zoe UI Controller'" I have "W/UIComponentFactory( 4296): Creating component 'UFocus UI Controller'" but on yours it doesn't try that
[04:02] <daftykins> hrmm
[04:03] <daftykins> doesn't make sense that it'd lack their main prized feature
[04:03] <TJ-> But HAHA!
[04:03] <TJ-> "E/CameraConfigFileReader( 4296): CONFIG_FILE does not exist !"
[04:03] <daftykins> :O
[04:03] <TJ-> whilst on yours: "V/CameraProfiler(14969): [PROFILE][INTERVAL][CameraConfigFileReader.ReadConfigFile.Start -> CameraConfigFileReader.ReadConfigFile.End] 28.901 ms (28900781 ns)"
[04:06] <TJ-> and 6 lines later I see "W/FeatureConfig( 4296): mIsUFocusSupported:false" - so, there's a CONFIG_FILE to find
[04:27] <daftykins> two down D:
[04:28] <OerHeks> jups
[04:57] <TJ-> wow, the wind speed alarm has gone off on the weather station... might end up in the English Channel at this rate!
[05:01] <OerHeks> hmm see france http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-0.07,50.51,1050
[05:09] <TJ-> red/purple is faster ?
[05:13] <TJ-> oh, it wasn't the wind-speed alarm, it was low-temperature: -27C !!
[05:17] <OerHeks> brrr
[05:21] <TJ-> I think either we had bad wind-chill or the weather station has been blown down and is having a fit... I'll wait until daylight to go out into the field to check
[05:37] <daftykins> :D
[05:37] <daftykins> g'night folks, i've thrown a second duvet on the bed and it's time to retire
[05:38] <daftykins> TJ-: i'll have that HTC kicking around for a while i think, so let me know if it can be of any further use :)
[05:44] <TJ-> daftykins: thank-you. I'm currently struggling to build the lateset Java decompiler in order to get to see more of the Camera source-code, but hit a problem with incorrect Java libraries using the 'gradle' build system, so it might be put on hold for a few days
[05:44] <daftykins> doh!
[05:44] <TJ-> as in https://github.com/java-decompiler/jd-gui/issues/97
[05:47] <TJ-> OK, I'm braving the wind and rain, the alarm is doing my head in! Send the rescue huskies if I'm gone too long :)
[05:49] <OerHeks> What if the alarm stops?
[05:49] <OerHeks> I'll send Drabber
[06:00] <TJ-> Had to dry it out with a hair dryer, the transmitter was hanging on the wires upside-down and had got rain in it
[06:03] <OerHeks> let me invent the tyrip for you
[06:12] <TJ-> it's gone quiet now, thankfully
[09:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:38] <TJ-> morning :)
[09:43] <lordievader> Hey TJ-, how are you doing?
[09:48] <TJ-> fighting android decompiliation to hack a fix :)
[10:02] <lordievader> Hehe, the best fixes :P
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:38] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[13:53] <TJ-> g'afternoon :)
[13:53] <pauljw> hi TJ- :)
[13:54] <OerHeks> ~~~~~~/\~~~~~\o/~~~~~~
[13:54] <pauljw> OerHeks: heheh..
[13:56] <pauljw> as usual, i'm a day late and a dollar short, but i want to say thanks to all of you guys who i watch day after day in awe of your knowledge and willingness to help we of lesser abilities...
[15:42] <pauljw> brb
[16:54] <pauljw> why would someone that hasn't even figured out where to find xorg.conf think he can successfully overclock his vid card???
[16:54] <OerHeks> yeah, plus i think the drivers are not all suitable for such overclokc action
[16:55] <pauljw> :) just asking for trouble
[17:01] <BluesKaj> who really needs to overclock on computers for th last 10 yrs anyway, I doubt very much if has made much difference in response time, even on 3d games
[17:02] <pauljw> i haven't even heard anyone use the term in years.
[17:02] <BluesKaj> overclocking is a holdover from distant past IMO
[17:03] <pauljw> agreed
[17:03] <OerHeks> overclocking processors i do hear sometimes
[17:03] <OerHeks> and underclocking
[17:04] <pauljw> yeah, i just read something on supercomputers referring to overclocking the processors... doubt that's what he's talking about.
[17:06] <BluesKaj> tafaik overclocking was used on the cpu
[17:07] <OerHeks> not sure what guide he comes up with, we'll see.
[17:09] <lordievader> Intel processors overclock themselves these days.
[17:12] <BluesKaj> hyper thread?
[17:12] <lordievader> No, turbo boos.
[17:12] <lordievader> boost*
[17:13] <lordievader> Hyperthreading is intelligent scheduling of operations to reduce stalls.
[17:14] <BluesKaj> turbo boost sounds like some king phony internet spped boost from my dialup days :-)
[17:15] <pauljw> lol
[17:15] <BluesKaj> err something
[17:16] <lordievader> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Turbo_Boost
[17:19] <pauljw> cool, i have an i7 but didn't know that about it
[17:19] <BluesKaj> well, that leaves me out , my laptop is an i3
[17:19] <pauljw> :(
[17:20] <BluesKaj> but i didn't expect an entry level cpu to come with something like that
[17:21] <BluesKaj> i3 is perfectly fine, it's plenty fast enough for my needs
[17:21] <pauljw> no doubt
[18:04] <Bashing-om> It Saturday, how tight should I cinch up when climbing in the saddle ?
[18:04] <pauljw> tight
[18:05] <pauljw> :)
[18:05] <Bashing-om> Ho-kay .. will be a wild ride .. See what I can learn .
[18:30] <OerHeks> persons that mess with runit, and don't know sudo ..
[18:30] <OerHeks> please kill me, have mercy
[18:31] <pauljw> lol
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> there
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all mates
[19:44] <DosTuMai> EvEning.
[19:44] <pauljw> hi
[19:49] <lotus|xenial> !info inity-tweak-tool xenial
[19:49] <lotus|xenial> !info unity-tweak-tool xenial
[19:49] <lotus|xenial> hey ioria
[19:50] <ioria> lotus|xenial, hi ... how are you doing ?
[19:50] <lotus|xenial> ioria: im gonna try unity8 on xenial
[19:50] <ioria> oh...
[19:52] <lotus|xenial> not sure if this will overwrite unity7 or not
[19:52] <Bashing-om> lotus|xenial: Great, someone has to blaze the trail :) .
[19:53] <lotus|xenial> Bashing-om: im curious :p
[19:54] <ioria> lotus|xenial, don't know .... http://askubuntu.com/questions/447891/how-to-install-unity-8
[19:54] <ioria> lotus|xenial, maybe not
[19:55] <lotus|xenial> ok lets test this== logout
[19:55] <Bashing-om> lotus|xenial: Huh ! Being curious, generates a high level of smart .
[19:55] <lotus|xenial> brb
[19:56] <pauljw> hasn't worked for me...
[20:13] <lotusMIR> ioria Bashing-om i had to install that mir
[20:13] <lotusMIR> and logout brings me to choose mir login
[20:13] <ioria> mmmmm......
[20:14] <lotusMIR> looks like ubuntu-touch phone
[20:14] <ioria> !info unity8-desktop-session-mir
[20:14] <lotusMIR> yep thats the one
[20:14] <ioria> i see....
[20:15] <ioria> !info unity8-desktop-session-mir xenial
[20:15] <lotusMIR> ok back to normal unity
[20:18] <lotus|xenial> that was fun :p
[20:18] <ioria> ^_^
[20:35] <lotus|xenial> http://oi64.tinypic.com/2nk31c0.jpg
[20:35] <lotus|xenial> unity7 and unity8 settings :p
[20:39] <ioria> the upper bar is interesting ...
[20:39] <lotus|xenial> ioria: its like on ubuntu touch
[20:39] <ioria> i see...
[20:41] <Bashing-om> lotus|xenial: ^^ it's alive --- it's alive !
[20:41] <lotus|xenial> :p
[21:00] <lotus|xenial> nite nite
[21:35] <daftykins> Bashing-om wins the points for most patient support; lasting what feels like a week now with the same user :>
[21:35] <pauljw> :)
[21:36] <Bashing-om> daftykins: If I only know better .. In my defense, when I started this I did warn that " I know nothing " .
[21:37] <daftykins> :D very brave!
[21:38] <Bashing-om> wow ^^, makes me wonder at the deffinition of "brave" .. a glutton for punishment might fit better .
[21:38] <daftykins> hahaha
[22:58] <pauljw> bbl... dinner time
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[00:00] <AlexQ> Now I run apt-get update and it got stuck on updating trying to connect to a server via IP6, while my ISP doesn't provide it xD ... Okay, recovered
[00:00] <Bashing-om> the_count: Checking the new list .
[00:00] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: can I restore a backup from the command line?
[00:00] <daftykins> BottomNotch: i don't know how you backed up
[00:01] <BottomNotch> I backup up from system settings in unity
[00:01] <daftykins> telldrak: what are you doing to want sendmail on these hosts? running internal email?
[00:01] <the_count> telldrak: What exactly is the issue?
[00:01] <BottomNotch> Backed up autocorrect :/
[00:01] <daftykins> BottomNotch: i have no experience with that
[00:01] <BottomNotch> I'll Google it
[00:02] <BottomNotch> I should have never of purged unity
[00:02] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:02] <BottomNotch> Lesson learned
[00:02] <the_count> daftykins: What kind of issues does purging unity introduce
[00:03] <BottomNotch> If I end up having to do a fresh install I think I'll try Linux mint, maybe my touchscreen will work.
[00:03] <daftykins> hmm, kind of irritating for you to try and learn via those already tasked with helping but...
[00:03] <daftykins> BottomNotch: that'll be an even bigger mistake :)
[00:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: Maybe I should restart, then repopulate that list... The results may be different/better
[00:03] <daftykins> 1) installed xfce i think? 2) purged unity 3) they both share packages, so unity removal took out what xfce needed to run - leaving a hosed system
[00:04] <BottomNotch> It was fine until I rebooted :/
[00:04] <daftykins> lol
[00:04] <BottomNotch> But yeah exactly what happened
[00:04] <daftykins> and *BANG* the desktop environment is gone!
[00:04] <the_count> daftykins: oh, oops
[00:05] <AlexQ> daftykins: Why would purging one package remove it's dependencies that are also dependencies of a different package?
[00:05] <the_count> daftykins, how do you make you're *BAND* think?
[00:05] <BottomNotch> I'm just gonna try to install lxde
[00:05] <Bashing-om> the_count: That ouput is the same as the 1st .. agreed .. restart the system and let's get a new look .
[00:05] <daftykins> the_count: sorry this isn't IRC school
[00:05] <the_count> daftykins: I think I accedentally descovered it
[00:05] <daftykins> AlexQ: all we know is it broke, i care not the why right now.
[00:06] <the_count> BAshing-om: Ok, see you in a bit
[00:06] <Decco848> its often there is not change to exsisting files in use too other packages, If not the volume managment doesnt htink we got to much harddrive space
[00:06] <BottomNotch> Well thanks for all your help daftykins
[00:07] <daftykins> np, we tried
[00:07] <AlexQ> Well, I purged that Intel GPU driver and now I have 2:2.99.917+git20150808-0ubuntu4. So apparently it was from that ppa
[00:07] <the_count> daftykins: Point taken
[00:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: And, restarted, the kernel list is definantly shorter, but not as short as one world think, repopulating list
[00:08] <AlexQ> I'd like to replace all packages that came from that ppu with Ubuntu ones, but that command ppa-purge doesn't find the ppu
[00:08] <AlexQ> probably gone after upgrade
[00:08] <AlexQ> what to do?
[00:08] <BottomNotch> Dafttkins: well I will try Linux mint if I need to do a fresh install, I really want a working touchscreen
[00:09] <daftykins> BottomNotch: alright, just know you can't get any help with Mint here
[00:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think this list may look the same as well: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379098/
[00:09] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: I know
[00:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; lookin.. lemme clear the board and we start all over ..
[00:10] <the_count> bashing-om: I will the same here as well
[00:10] <AlexQ> I'll try to reboot after purging & installing that Intel GPU driver... Although not optimistic at all
[00:10] <BottomNotch> Daftykins: well I'm up and running with lxde
[00:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK, show me what results ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-46-generic ' .
[00:12] <BottomNotch> To bad I couldn't get xfce working
[00:12] <daftykins> probably something in there broken *shrug*
[00:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379227/
[00:13] <the_count> mobile irc client
[00:13] <the_count> sorry
[00:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: Checking http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379227/ .
[00:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yep, that one should be history .. now ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-48-generic ' .
[00:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Results look the same as previous
[00:16] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: Oh I am getting the idea of what is going on . do ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-46 ' .
[00:17] <truexfan81> yum can be configured to limit the number of old kernels the system keeps before it auto removes them, does apt have anything like that?
[00:17] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Can you read this? Have I been muted? :(
[00:17] <truexfan81> VictoriaXOXO: you are not muted :)
[00:17] <Decco848> To share, ive read articles of Drive mounting problems in USB Distros To know the parameters are undefined and nor reachable or allocative is Beyond me
[00:18] <the_count> Bashing-om: What's going on, and looks like it has been removed succesfully
[00:18] <VictoriaXOXO> truexfan81: Wooooo.
[00:18] <SupaYoshi> hey how do i add a br0, that asks for a second dhcp lease of my router?
[00:19] <SupaYoshi> I have a ubuntu server, trying to setup a virtualmachine and I want the br0 to receive an IP from the router.
[00:19] <SupaYoshi> I tried doing this, but that gave it the same IP as the eth0. and that doesn't look healthy
[00:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Here were the results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379481/
[00:19] <EriC^^> truexfan81: there's a script that checks that, you could probably modify it
[00:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: Our former dpkg -P commands did complete, what we have now is the results of incomplete mass removals .. We will get caught up here in a bit .. now : ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image-3.16.0-46-generic ' .
[00:19] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379501/
[00:20] <Decco848> Formatting by disc is harder, esp' Without a bootable CDROM
[00:20] <truexfan81> EriC^^: in this case i only have 2 kernels installed but the new one is working nicely, so no reason i can think of to keep the old one
[00:20] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: not how it works at all
[00:20] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: let the VM get its' own via bridging.
[00:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, and my virtual desktops aren't around any more, thought I might point that out
[00:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: Purged succesfully
[00:21] <SupaYoshi> daftykins, i am creating a vm with kvm.
[00:21] <SupaYoshi> I need to specify which bridge device to use
[00:21] <Decco848> Setting jumpers and defining IDE on older machines is complicated, and Wondering why you cant boot from img is completly triffling.
[00:21] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: gotta install bridge-utils then edit /etc/network/interfaces then ; i'm sure there's a guide to KVM network config somewhere
[00:22] <SupaYoshi> ERROR Error in network device parameters: Unknown network type br0
[00:22] <SupaYoshi> i have bridge-utils installed.
[00:22] <EriC^^> truexfan81: you can manually remove it if you want
[00:22] <EriC^^> with apt-get purge
[00:22] <daftykins> Decco848: please cut the chat, support only in here - you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:23] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-48 ; sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-48-generic ' .
[00:23] <JoeB> Mornin'
[00:23] <SupaYoshi> ERROR Cannot get interface MTU on 'br0': No such device
[00:23] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[00:26] <Bashing-om> the_count: Next in line ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53} ' Lets do these 4 in one command .
[00:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: It ignored them all, says they aren't installed
[00:28] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[00:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: Shall we try them separately?
[00:28] <SupaYoshi> sudo virsh iface-bridge eth0 br0
[00:28] <SupaYoshi> i was trying this command however that returns an weird error that google doesnt have answers on
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> error: this function is not supported by the connection driver: virInterfaceLookupByName
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> error: failed to get interface 'eth0'
[00:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: My bad .. ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53}-generic ' corrected as the package manager was correct .. what was, was not installed .
[00:30] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: it's probably that you don't have a br0 yet because you've not created one by installing what i mentioned :)
[00:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, good
[00:30] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: /var/log/boot.log ?
[00:31] <dengxinjun> hello
[00:31] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: I'll look at it!
[00:31] <SupaYoshi> i have bridge-utils installed
[00:31] <dengxinjun> Where's you doing?
[00:31] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: right but that doesn't magically create you a br0
[00:31] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13379782/
[00:31] <daftykins> dengxinjun: ubuntu support questions only
[00:31] <dengxinjun> what's you doing?
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> daftykins, do i need to put something in networking?
[00:32] <daftykins> right so the interface is called virbr0
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> no thats from virtualbox.
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> I was using that with virtualbox.
[00:32] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: what's the end goal here, what is this VM going to do...
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> I want another bridge.
[00:32] <SupaYoshi> The vm is going to run a freepbx distro.
[00:33] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Weird. I'm sure I saw at least one (1) [FAIL] there.
[00:33] <SupaYoshi> and i want it to access my lan. So i want it to be bridged with my lan.
[00:33] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: on shutdown maybe, but that doesn't remain visible now...
[00:33] <SupaYoshi> daftykins, so what do i do to create br0?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: Next is same for the headers ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53}-generic '.
[00:33] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Dang. How do I catch it?
[00:33] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: so with virtualbox networking it should've been easy enough to get that VM to have an IP on your real LAN
[00:33] <SupaYoshi> no i am using kvm for this vm
[00:34] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: pass.
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> im not using virtualbox for this.
[00:34] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: You pass on that question?
[00:34] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: ugh, i think you're making life harder for yourself when you don't have the experience with any of these.
[00:34] <daftykins> anyway my battery is about to go so i think i'm out :)
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> I have used br0 before on something else.
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> I just want to learn it.
[00:34] <daftykins> find a guide then perhaps
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> Okay bye
[00:34] <daftykins> or ask in ##networking
[00:35] <daftykins> but i can tell you you're going about that task in a pretty insane way
[00:36] <SchrodingersScat> I keep getting connection errors with my reverse tunnel, http://paste.debian.net/334492 it eventually connects, just takes it a minute. If I don't use it when it does connect, it seems to time out. How do I troubleshoot this further?
[00:36] <the_count> Bashing-om: Those aren't installed as well
[00:37] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[00:38] <SupaYoshi> help i just typed this, brctl addif br0 eth0, how can I undo this command?
[00:39] <Bashing-om> the_count: My bad again .. I am rattled and not think'n things through .. do ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53} ' // no generic this time !
[00:40] <the_count> Bashing-om: What is ' generic ' for?
[00:40] <SchrodingersScat> !man | SupaYoshi, try man brctl, if there's an addif, there may be a rmif or delif somewhere.
[00:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: Now the final in this series ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53}-generic ' .
[00:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: Done
[00:42] <SupaYoshi> okay fixed
[00:42] <Bashing-om> the_count: There are several packages required for each kernel .. -generic is one of the three .
[00:42] <SupaYoshi> thnx
[00:42] <SupaYoshi> anyone an idea what i have to do?
[00:42] <SupaYoshi> I want to bridge eth0 with br0
[00:43] <SupaYoshi> so br0 gets an IP from the dhcp server too.
[00:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: I see. Shall I restart again, or is there more to remove?
[00:43] <truexfan81> EriC^^: you are right, i could remove it very easily :-)
[00:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Gimme a tic .. as now we remove the old 3.19 kernel series .
[00:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Got it
[00:47] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: That list of [OK] and [FAIL] while shutting down. Can I view it right now while the system is on?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' apt-get purge linux-image-{26,28,30,31,} ' . three more commands to go .. try'n to keep this simple .
[00:49] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: see system log .0 or .1 in /var/log
[00:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: You added an extra comma again
[00:51] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Thanks. But can you give me the full names? :P
[00:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: And, are those generic?
[00:51] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Oh, wait. Maybe I can find them.
[00:51] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Is it called "syslog"?
[00:51] <k1l_> yes
[00:51] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yikes .. teach me to slow down with my edits ! .. ' apt-get purge linux-image-{26,28,30,31} ' now does that run ?
[00:52] <birou15> @123Bnd
[00:53] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I can't find any "[OK]" or "[FAIL]" in there. :(
[00:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: You also forgot the beginning of the kernel release numbers... Not sure which ones you are on currently
[00:53] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: they get recyled on every reboot. so look into the .0 or .1
[00:54] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: the things you see is dmesg, but since systemd is used that is not saved anymore.
[00:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: I did it once more ! yuk .. should be ' apt-get purge linux-image-3.0.19.0-{26,28,30,31}-generic ' . Triple checked and now looks correct !
[00:54] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Gosh dang it. I might have to record my screen while the PC shuts down. XD
[00:55] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: i would not worry too much about that if it shuts down fine
[00:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: You got one extra .0 in there
[00:55] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: I'm an expert at worrying. I just want to know what that one or two [FAIL] line(s) points to.
[00:56] <dcope> how can i debug random timeouts to an ubuntu 12.04 machine? trying to connect via ssh and curl a webpage being served by nginx will randomly timeout.
[00:56] <MonkeyDust> dcope sounds like a ssh keepalive
[00:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: I must be more tired than I think .. yeah 3.19.0-{ .....
[00:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: And you mixed up the... the ' 3.0.19.0 ' should be ' 3.19.0 '
[00:57] <the_count> bashing-om: Been wondering if you were up a little too late last night
[00:57] <dcope> MonkeyDust: it seems to happen across the network to this machine though.
[00:57] <piercedwater> hello
[00:57] <dcope> ssh, nginx, etc.
[00:58] <MonkeyDust> dcope i have to go now, but get an idea here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+ssh+keepalive
[00:58] <piercedwater> how do i access an application that requires network access, inside a chroot? I am trying to run madsonic in a chroot but I am unable to access it
[00:58] <Nyterax> how do i delete old kernels from /boot/ with bleachbit?
[00:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: Got it finally... Hey, and through this, I think I am learning something... Which is the objective ...I think
[00:58] <k1l_> Nyterax: run "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[00:59] <Guy1524> hey guys so I tried to install ubuntu on my optimus laptop but whenever I try to use optirun I get this: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[00:59] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: did you install nvidia-prime?
[01:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: And, you deserve an upadate to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13380434/ It might make it a bit easier
[01:00] <Nyterax> k1l_, i do that but the generic kernels are still there, while i use lowlatency
[01:01] <Guy1524> i think so let me check
[01:01] <k1l_> Nyterax: then sudo apt-get remove linux-generic && sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:01] <Guy1524> yes
[01:03] <Nyterax> k1l_, this is my /boot/ http://pastebin.com/gkCXkewB what can i remove safely?
[01:03] <k1l_> Nyterax: you need to remove the metapackage like i told.
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: wich graphics driver do you have active right now?
[01:03] <k1l_> Nyterax: but you only have a 3.13 lowlatency kernel there
[01:04] <k1l_> Nyterax: sorry, scratch that.
[01:04] <k1l_> Nyterax: just remove the linux-generic. that will drop the generic kernels
[01:04] <Bashing-om> the_count: Moving on along ' apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31}-generic ; apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31} '. One to go !
[01:05] <Nyterax> package 'linux-generic' is not installed, so not removed
[01:06] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: you can find the list @ additional drivers (hardware icon)
[01:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'm going to have to restart before I do that... The lock ile could not be opened... And another windows said that I needed to restart
[01:08] <Guy1524> oh sorry was part of another chat in #linux
[01:08] <Guy1524> I have 352 right now
[01:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is that fine?
[01:09] <Guy1524> basically they had no idea what was going on and I am reinstalling, downloading the iso right now
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: try 340 or 346 perhaps, and enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: iso?
[01:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: Preseed with 'sudo" .. as all we have ' sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31}-generic ; sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31} ' // that is the "lock file" .
[01:09] <Guy1524> ok, but when I do that it just resets
[01:09] <Guy1524> for reinstalling ubuntu
[01:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: I did that with sudo
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: you dont need to reinstall mate, just right combination card/driver
[01:10] <Guy1524> ok, well it was working before but when i installed bumblebee it screwed everything up
[01:10] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: bumblebee is outdated
[01:10] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: use nvidia-prime instead
[01:10] <Guy1524> ok
[01:10] <Guy1524> just uninstalled bumblebee
[01:10] <the_count> Bashing-om: Can that be unlocked, or will I have to reboot?
[01:10] <Nyterax> k1l_, should i remove 'linux-generic-lts-vivid'?
[01:10] <Guy1524> but the problem persists i think
[01:11] <Bashing-om> the_count: Then, is there another instance of the package manager running ? as only one can run at a time ; so dpkg os "locked" .. give time for any other package manager to complete befire beginning another instance .
[01:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: Don;t want to do anything that digs the hole even deeper
[01:11] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: choose another driver/reboot/enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[01:11] <Guy1524> ok
[01:11] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Guy1524 if things go wrong
[01:11] <Guy1524> i know to boot into recovery mode rebooting now
[01:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't believe another instance is running, I didn't open any others
[01:12] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: ok good :p
[01:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. then reboot .. and we pick it back up here.
[01:12] <the_count> bashing-om: Ok
[01:12] <quechon> hello
[01:12] <quechon> how everybody doing
[01:13] <Guy1524_> the same problem is happening
[01:13] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: wich driver active now?
[01:13] <Guy1524_> when I reboot it switches from nvidia to intel
[01:13] <Guy1524_> intel
[01:13] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: no mate, you need to choose another nvidia driver from additional drivers list
[01:13] <Guy1524_> and when I just relog instead of rebooting it just makes a black screen
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: tell me wich drivers you see there?
[01:14] <Guy1524_> where, in additional drivers?
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: yes
[01:14] <Guy1524_> I only see 352.63 normal, 352.63 updates, and the open source one
[01:14] <quechon> how can i fix this /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
[01:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Rebooted, nothing happened... I had forgotten sudo on the second command
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: hmm, wich card do you have?
[01:15] <Guy1524_> gtx 960m
[01:15] <Nyterax> is it possible to allocate more space to /boot/?
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: tryed the opensource one?
[01:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: Now did sudo apt-get purge
[01:16] <Bashing-om> linux-headers-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31} - no generic .. complete ?
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> quechon: explain what you are trying to do exactly to the channel
[01:16] <Guy1524_> why does it say my name has quit?
[01:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: yes
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: ping timeout
[01:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13380981/ update
[01:17] <Guy1524_> oh but im still on, ok
[01:17] <quechon> im trying to compile a scantool software
[01:17] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What does "Allow Flipping" in the NVIDIA settings do? Ubuntu 14.04.
[01:17] <lotuspsychje> !compile | quechon
[01:17] <quechon> ok ill read that thanks
[01:18] <kaypro4> hi from a kaypro4
[01:18] <Guy1524_> should I just reinstall ubuntu?
[01:18] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: no, try the opensource one
[01:18] <Guy1524_> ok
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: wich ubuntu version is this?
[01:19] <Guy1524_> 15.10
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: if that fails, you might wanna try a 14.04.3 liveusb to test your card/driver
[01:19] <Guy1524_> do I have to reboot for it to take effect?
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524_: yes better reboot
[01:19] <Guy1524_> k
[01:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get purge linux-image-extra-3.19.0-{26,28,30,31}-generic ' .
[01:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: It says none of those are installed
[01:21] <Guy1524> same problem with open source drivers
[01:21] <Guy1524> i am going to reinstall thanks for the help anyway though
[01:22] <Guy1524> and like linus torvalds said, fuck you nvidia (:
[01:22] <the_count> Guy1524: What happened?
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: try LTS for more stable
[01:22] <Guy1524> nothing out of the ordinary, nvidia linux drivers stink
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: we had other users with your card working fine!
[01:22] <the_count> Guy1524: I see
[01:22] <Guy1524> Im fine, 15.10 was working fine other than having no multi monitor support
[01:24] <Bashing-om> the_count: Lemme check what I missed this time -- I did think I checked ! The latest list does show they are gone . Gimme a bit to see where next we jump to .
[01:26] <Nyterax> i did sudo apt-get remove linux-generic-lts-vivid and then autoremove but it still shows up in dpkg -l along with all the generic headers, is that normal?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK .. moving on along with the clean up ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image-3.16.0-48-generic ' .
[01:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... And also... I did install Gnome a while back and removed it, could that cause any issues.. i did this from the ubuntu software center.
[01:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: The last command did work
[01:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: Next in clean up ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-46-generic ' .
[01:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[01:30] <Bashing-om> the_count: As to removing an installed additinal desktop .. Yeah can cause real problems as some required dependencies might also get removed . and or rip a big whole in the operating system . I am not a proponent of removong any DE .
[01:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Well... This was a month or more ago... It should have shown some immediate results I would think
[01:33] <kaypro4> anyone tried ubuntu on one of the latest dell xps15 machines?
[01:33] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What does "Allow Flipping" in the NVIDIA settings do? Ubuntu 14.04.
[01:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: Will not affect what kernels are installed however .
[01:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: Exactly
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> kaypro4: better ask your issue on it mate
[01:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image-3.16.0-48-generic '
[01:35] <kaypro4> dont have an issue yet - just looking to see if its worth buying
[01:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: This isn't installed as welll. Update to the 'dpkg -l | grep linux-', http://paste.ubuntu.com/13381479/
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> kaypro4: sure mate, dell works like a charm with ubuntu
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> kaypro4: but alot of other brands also do
[01:37] <kaypro4> thanks.
[01:37] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-signed-image-3.16.0-{50,51,52,53}-generic ' .
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> kaypro4: i suggest transforming a laptop yourself, by pluggin a samsung 850 pro ssd inside and install ubuntu LTS
[01:38] <daftykins> kaypro4: that one has the hybrid graphics, that'll give you hours of entertainment on every upgrade.
[01:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[01:38] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.19.0-25-generic '
[01:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[01:40] <bencc1> I'm trying to install ubuntu server 14.04 using KVM on a remote server
[01:40] <bencc1> it stuck after checking cd-rom. just see a purple screen
[01:40] <bencc1> how can I debug it?
[01:41] <zidsal> can someone here help me with something I'e tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source via the package manager however its stuck in applying changes
[01:41] <zidsal> anyway I can do something about this
[01:41] <lettuce45> what command do I need to extract a rar file?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> the_count: Now let's make sure all agree at this time . ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ' la -al /boot ' . If all agree we can now (RE-)install the 3.16.0-30 kernel .
[01:42] <OerHeks> !info unrar
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> zidsal: you can install the broadcom driver right off your ubuntu iso
[01:42] <zidsal> lotuspsychje ok but how do I kill the package managers installation?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: * ls -al /boot ' .
[01:43] <lotuspsychje> zidsal: xkill
[01:43] <zidsal> lotuspsychje thanks
[01:43] <Decco848> CTRL-Z
[01:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: no " ' " or a ; sepparating?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah ya got it .. my bad syntax . ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ; ls -al /boot ' .
[01:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13381725/
[01:47] <CarlFK> Whats the command to upgrade from one release to the next?
[01:47] <Ben64> do-release-upgrade
[01:48] <CarlFK> do... right. thanks
[01:49] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What does "Allow Flipping" in the NVIDIA settings do? Ubuntu 14.04.
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: i think it has to do with virtual desktops
[01:49] <dcope> hey all, how can i figure out why pinging an ubuntu 12.04 machine times out sometimes? http://pastie.org/private/btgqcadcgnwyqi3cvwevna
[01:50] <dcope> this is all on my lan so im not sure where there are such spikes, too
[01:50] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Would it be safe to disable it?
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: try and see, you cant just break ubuntu with 1 setting
[01:51] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Oh, I'm not too sure about that. XD
[01:51] <hawly> dcope, errr... icmp echo reply on/off?
[01:52] <kum4n> Hello, anyone can tell me how to build certificate authority in Linux server specially in debian or ubuntu? Thanks, sorry for my bad English :)
[01:52] <dcope> hawly: what do you mean?
[01:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: Did you get that?
[01:53] <hawly> dcope, the only way I know to drop pings is messing w/ /proc
[01:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n // why oh why can we not sudo get rid of the 3.19.0-25? Let'rm -rf /lib/modules/
[01:54] <hawly> dcope, ah- iptables may do some tricks on this subject too
[01:54] * hawly is getting old and having pain in parts of his body he never knew that existed!
[01:55] <kean> hello ,everyuone
[01:55] <mario_> hi kean
[01:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: Maybe propose to Linus to add english syntax so we can have commands such as those... Was that a command you were giving me?
[01:56] <dcope> hawly: there seem to be networking problems in general though. ssh sometimes times out... and now pings to the machine time out too
[01:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: Continued : let's try ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.19.0-25-generic ' .
[01:56] <hawly> dcope, an "iptables -L" on that machine may reveal something
[01:57] <the_count> bashing-om: Ok
[01:58] <dcope> hawly: not much in there, http://pastie.org/private/mshclaofabxamdfiwleiw
[01:59] <hawly> dcope, im FUPing it
[01:59] <dcope> FUP?
[01:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: It returned nothing
[01:59] <hawly> follow up
[01:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic ; sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-linux-headers-3.19.0-25 ' .
[02:00] <Bashing-om> the_count: In linux a retun to nothisng is the system doing as told . no dsas or back talk .
[02:00] <hawly> dcope, that conf is weird man...
[02:00] <Nyterax> i did sudo apt-get remove linux-generic-lts-vivid and then autoremove but it still shows up in dpkg -l along with all the generic headers, is that normal?
[02:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: You weren't responding, that's why I said that
[02:01] <dcope> hawly: it should be the default one
[02:01] <dcope> ive never messed with iptables on this machine
[02:01] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sorry . can not look at outtput on different desktop and type here also .
[02:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: It's all ok
[02:02] <hawly> dcope, whats are problem freq and duration?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: Did we do ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.19.0-26-generic ' ? I lost track again .
[02:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: We did not
[02:04] <hawly> dcope, you burst the pings and some reach and others not - or it stays some time frame without accepting?
[02:05] <TJ-> dcope: possibly a bad link; On the target PC, what does "ifconfig XXXX" report (where XXXX is the receiving interface) ?
[02:05] <quechon> i followed this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware but what im trying to build doesnt have a ./configure and i cannot auto create one either
[02:06] * hawly is not network specialist - not a specialist at all - just a Linux enthusiast
[02:06] <ryao-phone> Is this a good phone for Ubuntu? http://www.expansys-usa.com/google-nexus-5-d820-32gb-white-unlocked-285132/
[02:06] <quechon> i get this when running make /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM
[02:07] <quechon> i did a search for the lib file and i have it in my system
[02:07] <dcope> TJ-: http://pastie.org/private/hndcxlajwzpjrsjium4q
[02:07] <quechon> how can i point what im building to that file
[02:07] <OerHeks> ryao-phone, i don't think so, join #ubuntu-touch for phone support
[02:08] <OerHeks> err, there is a 'working' port , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[02:08] <hawly> dcope, can I see too?
[02:08] <TJ-> dcope: good news is, there aren't any TX/RX errors reported on that interface
[02:09] <dcope> this is so strange... i never had these issues on an old router
[02:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK, remove the ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.19.0-26-generic ' .
[02:10] <TJ-> dcope: Now, on the target 12.04, run "sudo tcpdump -ni eth0 icmp". Then on the other PC start the ping. Observe if the 12.04 PC always sends out an ICMP reply for each ICMP request
[02:10] <ryao-phone> OerHeks: I am trying to decide on whether to get the Nexus 5 and install Ubuntu on it to replace my iPhone until the zero day situation with WebKit is resolved.
[02:11] <OerHeks> "Bluetooth doesn't work; Power management issues (the battery performance isn't great)" no
[02:12] <TJ-> dcope: "never had these issues on an old router" ... does that imply you've recently changed a router that sits between these PCs?
[02:12] <dcope> TJ-: yes, that is correct.
[02:12] <ryao-phone> OerHeks: I wish there was more explicit information.
[02:12] <dcope> i don't know why the new router would randomly cause intermitent issues though
[02:13] <hawly> kkkkkkkkk
[02:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: I might have missed a message you sent withing the last 10 minutes
[02:13] <TJ-> dcope: "aha!" Then it would suggest that router is most likely the problem. Continue with the 'tcpdump' analysis as I recommended, so you can find out if the router is failing to pass on the ICMP request to the 12.04 PC, or whether the PC receives it, replies, but the router doesn't pass the reply to the source PC.
[02:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was disconnected temporarily
[02:14] <TJ-> dcope: But either way, assuming the 12.04 PC is behaving correctly, you need to investigate the router
[02:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: Are we caught up ? ready to see if all our work is fruitful ?
[02:14] <dcope> TJ-: indeed. the 12.04 PC is sending replies right now
[02:14] <dcope> none have timed out while running tcpdump
[02:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: Check this file again, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13382781/ just to make sure
[02:15] <TJ-> dcope: Try to keep that running for an extended time; the results aren't useful if the problem doesn't exhibit itself :)
[02:15] <Bashing-om> the_count: Check'n http://paste.ubuntu.com/13382781/ .
[02:15] <TJ-> dcope: what is the make/model of the router, and is it using stock firmware as supplied with it?
[02:16] <dcope> TJ-: it's an arris NVG599
[02:16] <dcope> with stock firmware
[02:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: What is it with that kernel ! Try again ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic ; sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.19.0-25 ' !
[02:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: I think that may have gotten it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13382952/
[02:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Are there not a few more we can remove?
[02:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n and now a new ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ; ls -al /boot ' please .
[02:21] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383085/
[02:22] <TJ-> dcope: I can't see any issues reported around packet dropping for that device, so it is likely a local problem only. If you can prove (with tcpdump on both source and target PC) that ICMP packets (and possibly other packets - UDP, TCP) are being dropped, then you'll need to investigate the router itself. there might be some rate-limiting Anti-DDoS rules in its firewall causing that for example
[02:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n .. gimme a bit .
[02:23] <Bashing-om> the_count: One final one ! ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.19.0-31-generic '
[02:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383210/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383271/
[02:26] <scfith> ubuntu is awesome
[02:26] <the_count> scifith: Yup
[02:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: I do not have a clue but once more ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.16.0-49-generic ' .
[02:28] <treesiger> I heard France is going to drop bras, condoms, racy photos, cigarettes, wine in isis
[02:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: NO on that last >.. we keep that 49 kernel ... !!
[02:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: Good, because it wasn't working
[02:29] <Ubuntu2330> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Ubuntu2330 jpwhacqtunvn
[02:29] <the_count> BAshing-om: Why do we keep the 49 kernel?
[02:29] <Ubuntu2330> lolz
[02:30] <Ubuntu2330> So, anyone here know anything about using full disk encryption via the automatic setup when installing? I'm having to reboot every few times to get cryptsetup to actually run and let me log in.
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> !ot | treesiger
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> Ubuntu2330: change your password now
[02:31] <Ubuntu2330> for IRC?
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> Ubuntu2330: everyone saw it
[02:31] <Ubuntu2330> That wasn't my password
[02:31] <Ubuntu2330> just the registration verification
[02:31] <dcope> lol
[02:31] <dcope> TJ-: so when running tcpdump it _will not_ timeout at all
[02:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: We have the 3.19 broke .. working is 3.16.0-30 ; want to keep a back up of a 3.16 kernel.
[02:32] <the_count> right
[02:32] <dcope> but ssh times out while trying to connect a new session... wtf :(
[02:32] <treesiger> He may have to change every password he uses. A African hacker might of seen it and clean his bank accounts out
[02:33] <TJ-> dcope: That is strange, and it suggests some kind of sensitivity to timing of packets
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> treesiger: stop that please
[02:34] <the_count> Bashing: I see, we do want to leave a backup
[02:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK. now all looks good to me .. let's have the package manager heal it's self ' sudo atp-get -f install ' . Next up is to (RE-)install 3.16.0-30 to pick up the missing packages .
[02:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: ** ' sudo apt-get -f install ' .
[02:36] <the_count> bashing-om: I saw it... Nothing happened
[02:36] <dcope> this is so strange... :(
[02:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: 'sudo apt-get -f install ' and no output ?????
[02:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: There was results, not of repairing, but of autoremoving... That was it.. No "healing"
[02:38] <TJ-> dcope: is one of the PCs on Wifi?
[02:38] <dcope> TJ-: yes, the client (the one im on now) is on wifi
[02:39] <dcope> i tried plugging in via ethernet earlier today and had the same results
[02:39] <connor_> hello
[02:39] <TJ-> dcope: I'd suggest using Ethernet on both sides whilst testing, purely to elliminate any possible variation due to the Wifi. But it sure looks like you have a dud router, or else bad config in it
[02:40] <connor_> Hi, I'm having some trouble finding what is taking up space in xubuntu, which is full
[02:40] <connor_> would anyone be able to help?
[02:41] <Ubuntu2330> connor_ try KDirStat?
[02:41] <connor_> it says command not found
[02:42] <Ubuntu2330> install it from software manager
[02:42] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK. show me that result ' sudo apt-get -f install '
[02:42] <connor_> when i do df -h it says /dev/sda1 is pretty much full
[02:42] <connor_> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:42] <connor_> /dev/sda1 13G 12G 9.4M 100% /
[02:42] <connor_> none 4.0K 0 4.0K 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[02:42] <connor_> udev 482M 4.0K 481M 1% /dev
[02:42] <connor_> tmpfs 100M 1.2M 99M 2% /run
[02:42] <connor_> none 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
[02:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13383958/
[02:44] <connor_> hello?
[02:44] <connor_> oh sorry
[02:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n
[02:45] <connor_> Would anyone be willing to help me find out what's taking up so much space in xubuntu?
[02:45] <connor_> when i run df -h, I get this:
[02:45] <connor_> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:45] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK .. I can accept that .. go ahead and ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' as those 32 bit files are no longer needed .
[02:45] <connor_> /dev/sda1 13G 12G 9.4M 100% /
[02:45] <connor_> none 4.0K 0 4.0K 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[02:45] <connor_> udev 482M 4.0K 481M 1% /dev
[02:45] <connor_> tmpfs 100M 1.2M 99M 2% /run
[02:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: Removed
[02:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Shall I reboot?
[02:49] <iceiceice> hi, i installed ubuntu 15.10 recently,
[02:49] <iceiceice> it works great but it made my Grub boot loader kind of ugly, is there a way i can switch back to the classic look?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> the_count: Might be a good thing now to reboot . Boot back to this kernel .
[02:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: I am in the latest now and will be for as long as I can
[02:51] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, rebooted
[02:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: Hold tight . dotting some 'i's here .
[02:54] <the_count> :D
[02:56] <BirdJesus> guys, how i can make dropshadow\borders for maximized windows?
[02:57] <the_count> BirdJesus: How would that work?
[02:58] <BirdJesus> i`ll show in pics :P
[03:00] <BirdJesus> http://i.imgur.com/lUnrueJ.png its maximized window, there is no shadows\rounded corners
[03:01] <BirdJesus> http://i.imgur.com/o3OJfE0.png thats i want it look like
[03:02] <Decco848> HTML 5 is amazing.
[03:03] <the_count> BirdJesus: How about you go to the channel that Desktop is made by...
[03:03] <Decco848> FYI
[03:03] <BirdJesus> ok, sorry
[03:03] <BirdJesus> thank you
[03:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK; I think as we have the 3.16 kernels we want to ' sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-utopic linux-image-generic-lts-utopic ' and then we can properly install the 3.16.0-30 kernel .
[03:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, installed
[03:06] <the_count> BirdJesus: You're welcome
[03:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: K: NOW finally ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.13.0-30-generic linux-image-extra-3.16.0-30-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-30-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-30 linux-signed-image-3.16.0-30-generic ' .
[03:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: This whole process has freed about 4gb of disk space so far
[03:13] <daftykins> probably more a sign you had a bunch of kernels on there? :>
[03:15] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Uhh. CCleaner on Windows can list ALL files from biggest to smallest. Can Linux do the same?
[03:15] <the_count> daftykins: Yes
[03:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. I will be interested to see a new ' df -h ' .
[03:16] <Decco848> ;X
[03:16] <the_count> bashing-om: It finished... If there is anything else that has to be done now tell me fast as I have to go...
[03:16] <Decco848> Palete*
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | VictoriaXOXO
[03:16] <the_count> bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13385138/
[03:16] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: BB can do that?! :o
[03:16] <daftykins> i've seen that bleachbit hose a couple of folks systems now, not sure it's ideal :>
[03:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: That is all for now .. tomorrow we go back to work on the touchpad .
[03:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, thank you, and ahve a good one... ' sudo get some sleep '
[03:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch @ " /dev/sda6 76G 65G 7.2G 91% / " we still have work to do !
[03:18] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: daftykins: I am... not... finding that in BB.
[03:18] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have a lot of things of mine on this drive as well
[03:18] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: trying to find a direct replacement for every single Windows program you may've run in the past isn't really that good an approach imo
[03:18] <Decco848> im going to off topic CIOA for now rommies
[03:19] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Well, give me a terminal command then. ;)
[03:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: We can pick this back up later .. for now I am content that the system is stable .
[03:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Thanks, see you
[03:19] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: i didn't see what you were asking to do
[03:19] <daftykins> i sense it's a futile request already though
[03:20] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Read up. XD JK. I want to list ALL files from biggest to smallest.
[03:20] <daftykins> on the entire system?
[03:20] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Yeah!
[03:20] <daftykins> what a ridiculous request; better would be to just use 'find' and look for files of a certain size.
[03:20] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: It's not ridiculous to me!
[03:21] <VictoriaXOXO> I like seeing things like that.
[03:21] <daftykins> there's a graphical disk usage program that might be of use
[03:21] <daftykins> but maybe if i could understand your plan (which i don't) we could advise something better
[03:22] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Well, there's really no plan. I just wanted to know if it was POSSIBLE on a Linux box. I used to like doing that.
[03:22] <daftykins> but why
[03:23] <daftykins> when will this be relevant?
[03:23] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: When finding out what's taking up space. :P
[03:23] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: OR you could tell me how to find ALL files over 1 GB of size?
[03:24] <daftykins> i already did, find does that
[03:24] <daftykins> and i already told you there's a graphical disk usage program
[03:24] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Just find and nothing else?
[03:25] <daftykins> "find / -size 1G" or similar
[03:25] <daftykins> "man find" for more.
[03:25] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Let me try.
[03:26] <daftykins> i don't think that was the correct format
[03:26] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: You should've seen my terminal. XD
[03:27] <daftykins> no i'm ok.
[03:27] <daftykins> i was playing with the command myself; worked for me on a path i know i have a large file in by running "find . -size +1000M"
[03:29] <VictoriaXOXO> Yeah, that worked better.
[03:29] <VictoriaXOXO> I was sure I had some old VM file, but apparently not.
[03:30] <Bashing-om> VictoriaXOXO: ' sudo find / -type f -size +1G -exec du -h {} \; 2>/dev/null | sort -hr | head -n 10 ' which will search the whole filesystem for files bigger than 1G and then sort them and print the 10 largest ones (you can adjust the '1G' and the ' -n 10' if that's not granular enough) - you can exclude mounted filesystems with '-xdev' or a suitable '-prune' if you have a more complicated multi - partition filesystem .
[03:31] <linux666> Hi there
[03:31] <linux666> How do I use find command to find 'vmlinuz'?
[03:33] <daftykins> why are you looking for that?
[03:33] <kaypro4> find / -name vmlinuz -print
[03:33] <daftykins> vmlinuz is a symlink in /
[03:33] <linux666> to load the kernel manually daftykins
[03:33] <Bashing-om> linux666: ' sudo find /boot -name "vmlinuz*" ' should fill that bill .
[03:34] <VictoriaXOXO> Bashing-om: Not complicated at aaaaaaaall. :P
[03:34] <VictoriaXOXO> But I'll save it for future use.
[03:38] <Bashing-om> VictoriaXOXO: Hey .. you did ask .. it's linux ... where there is a will there is a way .
[03:38] <VictoriaXOXO> :o)
[03:52] <rising-ti> hi
[03:52] <rising-ti> whts up
[03:54] <rising-ti> hello
[03:55] <rising-ti> is everyone inactive af
[03:56] <daftykins> ask a question, it's support only in here
[03:56] <rising-ti> ok soz
[03:57] <rising-ti> does anyone know a beginer ai avalible to install on kali linux
[04:10] <Guest47237> hi there
[04:10] <Guest47237> anyone help me about installing utorrent on ubuntu mate
[04:13] <AlexQ> Hi
[04:14] <AlexQ> I have updated to Ubuntu 15.10, then performed repo update and upgrade, reboots etc. and the newest kernel I have is vmlinuz-3.19.0-33-generic
[04:15] <AlexQ> I have also installed Ubu 15.10 from scratch in parallel, on a different partition and I have vmlinuz-4.2.0-18-generic as of now
[04:15] <AlexQ> What's wrong?
[04:16] <AlexQ> Should I manually install a kernel package? What is the name of the newest stable available package for my architecture (amd64)? Any special package name?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> !hwe | AlexQ
[04:19] <daftykins> AlexQ: i bet you're missing linux-generic :)
[04:19] <AlexQ> daftykins: It is quite possible :)
[04:19] <daftykins> sudo apt install linux-generic
[04:20] <AlexQ> give me a sec for reboot
[04:20] <daftykins> or confirm with "dpkg -l | grep linux-"
[04:20] <AlexQ> can I do it with chroot without rebooting?
[04:20] <daftykins> why are you rebooting at all?
[04:20] <daftykins> reboot has nothing to do with installing this metapackage
[04:21] <AlexQ> I am running another Ubuntu installation on my Laptop, just wanted to check if package is there without rebooting
[04:21] <AlexQ> to the other installation I have issues with
[04:22] <daftykins> so you have two side by side?
[04:22] <trustisimportant> hey guys, I have a question, is ubtuntu really more safe than windows, in terms of backdoors, etc?
[04:22] <TJ-> AlexQ: yes, a chroot is sufficient to check is it is installed
[04:22] <daftykins> trustisimportant: that's not a support question technically, you could talk about Linux in general vs. Windows in ##linux
[04:22] <TJ-> trustisimportant: I'd worry more about front-doors generally :)
[04:22] <AlexQ> yes, it isn't there
[04:23] <OerHeks> trustisimportant, ubuntu has no backdoors, not even windows.
[04:23] <trustisimportant> what is a front door :)?
[04:23] <trustisimportant> via the websorser? and programms?
[04:23] <trustisimportant> webbrowser*
[04:23] <daftykins> as i said, ##linux
[04:23] <TJ-> trustisimportant: user behaviour; browsing with Javascript/Flash enabled, opening attachments, etc.
[04:24] <trustisimportant> sorr y bro:)
[04:24] <daftykins> you are not my sibling
[04:24] <trustisimportant> ok, my trust in the world has gone, which channel do you recommend me?
[04:24] <daftykins> you've seen it named already, twice
[04:24] <AlexQ> TJ-: Interestingly, there are libc headers for 4.2.0-18.22 listed. 3.19.0-33.38 - was that the latest kernel for 15.04 then?
[04:25] <daftykins> !info linux-generic vivid
[04:25] <daftykins> yes
[04:25] <TJ-> !info linux-generic vivid-updates
[04:26] <TJ-> strange, the 'bot reports an older version than AlexQ has
[04:26] <TJ-> !info linux-generic vivid-proposed
[04:26] <daftykins> could be a little outdated?
[04:27] <TJ-> apparently!
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> nite nite guys
[04:27] <daftykins> o/
[04:29] <AlexQ> Might that be a reason that the system is not working correctly after the upgrade? I couldn't make much out from the syslog, bootlog, Xorg log etc.
[04:29] <AlexQ> Will boot into recovery and install linux-generic
[04:30] <AlexQ> after booting into recovery I had KernelOops's on that kernel I mentioned
[04:31] <AlexQ> OopsText: NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 23s! [Xorg:1001]
[04:34] <daftykins> AlexQ: well you obviously want everything to match the same release version
[04:35] <AlexQ> ok, rebooting then
[05:10] <centaur5> Running 15.10 fully up to date. Using network manager to set static IP everything works except DNS lookups completely fail. In a browser pointing to an IP will load a page. Any ideas?
[05:10] <crazyhorse18> hmm
[05:10] <crazyhorse18> i've compeletly lost all of my menus in ubuntu, rebooting didn't fix the problem
[05:10] <crazyhorse18> i'm running 15.04 default gui (which is unity i think)
[05:11] <crazyhorse18> i've managed to get access to a terminal window (by right-clicking on a folder, and clicking open in terminal)
[05:12] <crazyhorse18> is there anything i can do restart, or fix the issue?
[05:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> centaur5 can you ping your router?
[05:12] <crazyhorse18> i'm also unable to resize windows or scrollbars
[05:12] <baiter> you lost?
[05:12] <baiter> you had it before?
[05:13] <crazyhorse18> yeah been working since i installed it.. today i tried to open a video in vlc, it crashed, took me to a terminal window with some text (ACPI or something)
[05:13] <crazyhorse18> so i rebooted and now none of the windows load
[05:14] <crazyhorse18> i'm just trying a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade just in case that will fix the porblem but i'm not hopeful
[05:14] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: try logging into a Guest session. if that works it tells you there's a user config file issue
[05:14] <curtis__> Hello!
[05:14] <centaur5> SeriouslyLaugh, yeah I can login to router admin page and everything. Can ssh to other boxes by IP. I specified DNS in nm-applet settings but it just doesn't work. I'm on my laptop with static on 14.04 using wireless and it fully functions. My desktop is hard wired.
[05:14] <crazyhorse18> TJ-: got ya, thanks
[05:15] <curtis__> I need help, I need a virtual keyboard for my 2 in 1 laptop, any help?
[05:15] <SeriouslyLaugh> can you ping the DNS centaur5?
[05:15] <baiter> centaur, sounds more like a network issue
[05:15] <Guest16780> Hi
[05:15] <TJ-> centaur5: if you've configured the NM connection to use a static IP address, have you also configured the IP address of a DNS server manually?
[05:15] <baiter> there's a #networking channel
[05:15] <curtis__> I need help, I need a virtual keyboard for my 2 in 1 laptop, any help?
[05:15] <centaur5> SeriouslyLaugh, yes
[05:16] <Guest16780> Can someone be polite to tell me how I get into another chat room? I'm newbie
[05:16] <Guest16780> Thanks!
[05:16] <baiter> curtis, google ubuntu virtual keyboard
[05:16] <baiter> pretty sure it exists already
[05:16] <TJ-> Guest16780: type /join #<name-of-channel> e.g. /join ##linux
[05:16] <SeriouslyLaugh> make sure it's not down
[05:16] <centaur5> TJ-, I used nm-applet to configure the entire thing under "Wired Connection" same goes for my wireless on my laptop nm-applet under the wireless ssid static settings fully function.
[05:16] <Guest16780> Thanks a lot TJ-
[05:16] <Guest16780> :)
[05:17] <curtis__> PLEASE HELP
[05:17] <curtis__> I need help, I need a virtual keyboard for my 2 in 1 laptop, any help?
[05:17] <TJ-> centaur5: right, and did you configure a manual DNS server IP address there?
[05:17] <centaur5> TJ-, yep exact same DNS server on both machines but the desktop doesn't lookup.
[05:17] <curtis__> please...
[05:18] <TJ-> centaur5: first thing is to ensure you've not made a silly typo in the edit box :) 2nd is to review /var/log/syslog where NM reports very verbosely when its configuring an interface.
[05:18] <curtis__> screw this
[05:19] <dengxinjun> this is a book
[05:19] <centaur5> TJ-, triple checked digits and even rebooted with saved settings. I'll check the logs real quick.
[05:19] <TJ-> centaur5: the way it works is NM controls a private instance of dnsmasq, the caching DNS server, which listens on 127.0.1.1. NM sends the configured DNS server IP address to dnsmasq over DBus when the connection is activated
[05:19] <dengxinjun> I much do it
[05:19] <TJ-> centaur5: check that this is a sym-link: "ls -l /etc/resolv.conf" should be a pointer to "../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"
[05:20] <TJ-> centaur5: also, check the content of "/etc/resolv.conf" - the target file should contain "nameserver 127.0.1.1"
[05:21] <centaur5> TJ-, no symlink exists and the DNS in resolv is the previous router
[05:22] <dengxinjun> the ubuntu very ..........
[05:22] <TJ-> centaur5: that explains it! Can you check this exists and contains the nameserver line I showed: "cat /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"
[05:22] <allen> Hello
[05:22] <dengxinjun> hello
[05:22] <wmorri> dengxinjun, hi do you have a question?
[05:23] <TJ-> !cn | dengxinjun if you'd prefer to talk in your own language
[05:23] <allen> 汉字可以吗？
[05:23] <dengxinjun> No.I'm not
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 可以
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 我也是中国人
[05:23] <allen> 这个英语有点受不了
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 嘿嘿
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 我喜欢英语
[05:23] <TJ-> !english
[05:23] <centaur5> TJ-, yes it does have 127.0.1.1
[05:23] <dengxinjun> 我经常在这里练习英语
[05:24] <TJ-> centaur5: OK, the fix should be "sudo ln -sf ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> how did you guys know he had a question in chinese? just curious
[05:24] <OerHeks> guys, english only please
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> based on his nick?
[05:24] <dengxinjun> yes
[05:24] <TJ-> SeriouslyLaugh: I checked his IP address net owner
[05:24] <TJ-> SeriouslyLaugh: "netname: CHINANET-JX"
[05:24] <allen> 那以后都用英文
[05:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> TJ- oh cool
[05:25] <centaur5> TJ-, Thanks a lot you're a genius.
[05:25] <centaur5> TJ-, Guess one of my release upgrades must have broken that
[05:25] <TJ-> centaur5: it's a common issue where users/scripts forcefully replace that file not knowing it is supposed to be a sym-link
[05:26] <dengxinjun> 美国这个时候应该是睡觉了吧，还有人？
[05:26] <TJ-> all local DNS resolution is done by that private dnsmasq controlled by NM
[05:26] <TJ-> !english | dengxinjun allen
[05:26] <dengxinjun> OK
[05:26] <dengxinjun> english
[05:26] <TJ-> dengxinjun: thank you :)
[05:26] <centaur5> TJ-, Thanks a lot. My knowledge on how nm-applet works was too limited to understand what was going on.
[05:27] <TJ-> centaur5: nm-applet is just a GUI interface to the underlying NM service. You can access/control it manually in a terminal with "nmcli"
[05:27] <allen> 他们比我们快8个小时吧
[05:27] <dengxinjun> Oh
[05:28] <dengxinjun> english only?
[05:28] <centaur5> TJ-, Good to know for future use. Thanks again!
[05:28] <dengxinjun> I'm chinese
[05:28] <TJ-> centaur5: and your 'all-users' interfaces are defined in text files under /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[05:29] <wmorri> dengxinjun, if speaking in chinese is easier for you try joining #ubuntu-cn.
[05:29] <TJ-> centaur5: so, if you get into serious problems with no GUI there are a couple of options (nmcli and manual text editor) to fix things up
[05:30] <SeriouslyLaugh> might help to direct him in his own language
[05:31] <allen> so hungry
[05:32] <dengxinjun> I'm hungry ,too
[05:33] <dengxinjun> I like eat....eat
[05:36] <TJ-> !ot | dengxinjun allen
[05:38] <dengxinjun> ok
[05:39] <AndChat406100> Jj
[05:41] <daftykins> !broadcom
[05:41] <guest69__> !broadcom
[05:42] <TJ-> !bcm | guest69__: I think the factoid is
[05:43] <daftykins> it's cool, ubottu just didn't repeat as it was so recent :)
[05:43] <TJ-> hmmm, oh, both work! Teach me to read a bit more
[05:54] <thoughtful_gobli> HI everyone, when i try to install any packages on ubuntu 12.04 I get 'Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages' errors. Does anyone know how to debug/fix this?
[05:54] <thoughtful_gobli> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b4429d3ae69a58809c4b
[05:56] <bencc1> can I su to root when I'm not in the sudoers list?
[05:56] <wmorri> thoughtful_gobli, have you tried running sudo apt-get update recently?
[05:57] <thoughtful_gobli> Yes, ran it just before and it ran without errors, I have also run sudo apt-get upgrade.
[05:57] <SeriouslyLaugh> thoughtful_gobli try running sudo apt-get -f install
[05:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> thoughtful_gobli read this thread http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies-after-adding-a-ppa
[05:58] <OerHeks> thoughtful_gobli, you'll need 2 packages in this order:> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[05:58] <thoughtful_gobli> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6d07c062f36d188188a5 < it threw the same error
[05:58] <thoughtful_gobli> ok, reading though that now
[05:59] * qu
[06:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> thoughtful_gobli also read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/451364/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu-14-04
[06:01] <thoughtful_gobli> Ok, Thank you. Oh apologies i should have said i am running ubuntu 12.04
[06:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok use this http://askubuntu.com/questions/100278/how-do-i-install-and-mount-an-exfat-partition
[06:05] <AlexQ> Fixed! After some dist-upgrade and installation of linux-generic. One problem remaining: gazziliions of crash messages about a previous kernel still appearing. How to get rid of that?
[06:06] <AlexQ> Probably cashed somewhere
[06:06] <Ben64> pastebin the errors
[06:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> AlexQ try to post a snippet of the exact errors
[06:07] <spilt_milk> what's up my ubuntoonians?
[06:08] <AlexQ> "System problem detected" appearing, which can't be true as they are all about a package "linux-image..(previous version that was problematic)"... Basically the messages that were appearing before I fixed the problem of missing linux-generic after upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10. So this looks like old messages appearing
[06:08] <jnesselr> spilt_milk: Trying to install ubuntu on an old mac mini. Pulling my hair out. The usual.
[06:08] <thoughtful_gobli> Thanks that was the one I was following. I have made a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list and run the "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo apt-get autoclean" command but still have the same issue.
[06:08] <dave__> #test
[06:08] <thoughtful_gobli> if i attempt to install sudo apt-get -f install fuse-utils I get a more specific error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/64f16339a4c0c3053fc9
[06:08] <SeriouslyLaugh> AlexQ run sudo rm /var/crash/*
[06:09] <AlexQ> SeriouslyLaugh: oo, yeah, I've been looking for that, but thought it was inside /var/log
[06:10] <jnesselr> So why does the ubuntu server iso keep trying to check for the cd-rom? It's not running off of a cd-rom.
[06:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> thoughtful_gobli you may have to purge exfat and reinstall using the PPA in the latest link i sent
[06:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> run sudo apt-get purge fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[06:11] <AlexQ> SeriouslyLaugh: Thanks
[06:11] <jnesselr> It's starting to get... irritating.
[06:11] <wmorri> jnesselr, are you talking about when it does a hardware check?
[06:11] <thoughtful_gobli> It looks like they have never been installed: "Package fuse-exfat is not installed, so not removed, Package exfat-utils is not installed, so not removed'
[06:12] <jnesselr> wmorri: When I'm trying to install, yes. I think it's looking for the install media.
[06:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> the run sudo apt-get clean
[06:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> then sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:12] <jnesselr> "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. If so you can insert it and try again."
[06:13] <jnesselr> But I'm not booting from the CD drive.
[06:14] <jnesselr> And when I try to mount /dev/sdb3 (the disk I put the installer on) onto /cdrom, it tells me that it's an Invalid Argument
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> then install the ppa; sudo apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> then run sudo apt-get update
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> then run sudo apt-get install fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[06:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> AlexQ sure thing
[06:15] <baiter> if you are running from cd rom, then you don't need to mount it
[06:15] <wmorri> jnesselr, this seems to be an issue, I am looking for a good solution.
[06:15] <baiter> it's already mounted, hence you can boot from it
[06:15] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok then just add the PPA above, update, and install that way
[06:15] <jnesselr> baiter: Sure, but this computer no longer has a functioning CD-ROM drive.
[06:15] <TJ-> jnesselr: that suggests the /etc/apt/sources.list has the original DVD/ISO archive entry not commented out
[06:16] <jnesselr> TJ-: What, on the ramdisk that's loaded right now?
[06:16] <baiter> ...
[06:16] <baiter> you are doing some strange stuff
[06:16] <baiter> why don't you just install it like normal people?
[06:16] <TJ-> jnesselr: check /etc/apt/sources.list, see if it has an "deb cdrom: ..." entry
[06:17] <AlexQ> night night'
[06:17] <jnesselr> TJ-: It's a ramdisk. There's literally no /etc/apt folder.
[06:17] <TJ-> jnesselr: otherwise, its another issue, which is the mounting of the LIVE ISO image to /cdrom/
[06:17] <baiter> ... what's a ramdisk?
[06:17] <jnesselr> baiter: It's not my fault I can't burn a CD and try it in this drive.
[06:17] <TJ-> jnesselr: the live env still has all the /etc/ files, its unpacked from a squashfs file system
[06:18] <baiter> you don't need a cd
[06:18] <baiter> to install it
[06:18] <baiter> you can install from usb
[06:18] <wmorri> TJ-, I think i found a solution, but I haven't had this problem so I don't know if it works. http://askubuntu.com/questions/593002/fail-to-install-ubuntu-server-14-04-64bit-lts-from-usb-drive
[06:18] <jnesselr> baiter: Which is where I'm at now.
[06:18] <jnesselr> Which is what's causing this error.
[06:19] <baiter> isn't there an option to install?
[06:19] <TJ-> baiter: the actual device doesn't matter; the hybrid ISO images are designed to work as if they were loaded from a DVD even if they start from a USB hard disk emulation
[06:20] <jnesselr> baiter: Yes. I hit install, go through the normal prompts, set up keyboard, etc. It then fails to detect the CD-ROM for the install media
[06:20] <TJ-> jnesselr: did you try the 'switch USB ports' trick so the device is re-mounted ?
[06:20] <baiter> so can't you skip it?
[06:21] <TJ-> baiter: no; it's a major fault. The ISO image disappears
[06:21] <jnesselr> TJ-: yes
[06:22] <TJ-> I used to see this a lot with SCSI-attached CD/DVD drives on servers. The installer expects them to be on ATA and if libata isn't involved, the device name isn't what the installer expects
[06:22] <jnesselr> I mean good grief, LFS gave me fewer issues than this computer is lol.
[06:23] <bhagath> can explain how to block usb data transfer
[06:24] <latrodectus> bhagath: http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/133-general-linux/727195-disable-a-enable-usb-from-terminal/
[06:25] <latrodectus> bhagath: also http://www.techrepublic.com/article/disable-usb-ports-to-prevent-unauthorized-data-transfers/
[06:26] <bindi> are there any problems to be expected if I want to dualboot ubuntu with win10 and bitlocker on a fakeraid? :-)
[06:26] <latrodectus> fakeraid?
[06:26] <latrodectus> bindi: so long as you partition your drive correctly i see no problems
[06:27] <bindi> fakeraid is kinda hardware raid but its software raid anyway, you know, motherboard raid
[06:27] <latrodectus> !partition | bindi
[06:27] <bindi> i know how to partition things but last time i installed on a fakeraid gparted showed everything 4 times (i have 4 disks in a raid0) but i got it installed anyway :P
[06:28] <latrodectus> well it probabily didn't register as one disk
[06:28] <OerHeks> usually bitlocker takes the whole drive..
[06:28] <jnesselr> BitLocker can get really weird with ubuntu systems.
[06:28] <bindi> I've shrunk the partition succesfully already
[06:28] <latrodectus> OerHeks: can't you have bitlocker take a partition
[06:29] <bindi> I would think that the free space wouldnt be encrypted.. that would be silly (or would it?)
[06:29] <OerHeks> bindi, one way to find out, boot the iso in live mode and see
[06:30] <latrodectus> bindi: it wouldn't be silly
[06:31] <TJ-> bindi: It depends on the fakeraid, GRUB boot-loader won't be able to use it, but the OS should do via either mdraid or dmraid
[06:31] <latrodectus> so long as you keep your secure shit on your secured drive, i see no problems with not using the full drive
[06:32] <TJ-> bindi: you'll need a separate device for GRUB to boot from
[06:32] <bindi> huh?
[06:32] <bindi> i've installed ubuntu on the same fakeraid before though and it booted
[06:32] <TJ-> bindi: also, 4 drives in RADID-0 is a recipe for disaster
[06:33] <bindi> 14.04 had some trouble with grub installation but i got it with fixboot or something, 15.04 did it on its own
[06:33] <bindi> no other boot devices in the system and it worked :P
[06:33] <bindi> TJ-: they're SSDs
[06:34] <bX> fuck
[06:34] <jnesselr> So just an update, I'm trying something a little weird. I pushed the install media on the internal sata and I'm also pushing it to the external drive. Theoretically, I should be able to mount the iso from one onto the ram disk for the other.
[06:34] <jnesselr> where it's expected the cdrom that is
[06:34] <bX> fuck
[06:34] <TJ-> bindi: that was luck :) ... RAID-0 (striping) means the first disk of the array must NOT store its fakeraid metadata at the beginning of the disk(s), and the partitioning must leave space for GRUB to install its core.img. GRUB will depend on the OROM of the FakeRAID controller for BIOS boot-time services, so it can only start in biosdisk mode, not nativedisk
[06:34] <bX> asu
[06:35] <bX> pejuh ngasu
[06:35] <bX> you stupid
[06:35] <jnesselr> well that was weird.
[06:36] <bindi> TJ-: what was luck exactly? :o
[06:36] <TJ-> bindi: GRUB often cannot find its core.img, or its root file-system, when fakeRAID is involved and its not a simple RAID-1 mirror config
[06:36] <slacking> bX#knapa bro
[06:37] <bindi> TJ-: right
[06:41] <jnesselr> BOOOM BABY THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
[06:43] <jnesselr> So, final solution for those curious: dd the iso to both the internal hard disk on a partion instead of the full disk, so the EFI stuff still plays nice, as well as to a usb disk. Then mount the usb disk to /cdrom through fstab. Profit. Maybe. Still trying to do the install. At least it recognizes the disk at this point.
[07:10] <taavi90> Hello, could someone please test if you are able to ssh to my server? I seem to be having port problems
[07:11] <Ben64> use nmap
[07:17] <stangeland> i am in ~ and i do du -sh * and i get a report saying that a directory called software contains 3.8G. So i enter that directory, and it only have a files...totalling up tp 400M. How can du be off with a factor of 10?
[07:20] <swift110-phone> Hey
[07:22] <latrodectus> strictlyb: you checked the hidden files as well right?
[07:22] <latrodectus> * strangeland
[07:23] * latrodectus needs to stop useing tab complete for nicks in large channels ;.;
[07:23] <HackerII> use the any-key
[07:30] <ganymede_> latrodectus: It should match by last spoken order.
[07:36] <latrodectus> ganymede_: it should, but idk if it does, i still have a couple of settings to tweak in irssi...
[07:54] <qu> \quit
[07:59] <neoserver_admin> can suggest how to scan windows clinets active ips from ubuntu server
[08:14] <mrbryle> h
[08:18] <eigart> Hi !
[08:18] <eigart> https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ seems to be down :(
[08:19] <latrodectus> ^checked it's down
[08:19] <auronandace> eigart: this channel only deals with supported releases
[08:20] <eigart> auronandace: okay, anyway the server seems to be up again
[08:20] <eigart> auronandace: thanks !
[08:56] <ubuntu037> Good morning, I have just installed a brand new Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS on a server, the machine has 128gb of RAM 2x 300GB Hard Raided SSD's and a 2tb Sata drive on it, Also a e5 1650 v3 CPU. THe machine is currently idling and has been all night but the load avg is 1.04 1.05 1.05. Does anyone have any pointers into what I should look into to determine what's causing this?
[08:57] <TJ-> ubuntu037: Yes. Can you "pastebinit /proc/interrupts" ?
[08:57] <ubuntu037> yeh, one sec
[08:58] <freakyy> omg nice machine ;D
[08:58] <TJ-> ubuntu037: did you also install the hardware enablement stack?
[08:59] <ubuntu037> http://pastebin.com/2qBm4N0s
[08:59] <ubuntu037> sorry it's a little strange formatting... you might need to toggle some options
[08:59] <ubuntu037> ah no I did not, I'll install that one second
[09:00] <Guest63695> hello everybody
[09:00] <bekks> ubuntu037: After booting into your new kernel, you can take a look at powertop
[09:00] <TJ-> !ltse | ubuntu037
[09:01] <ubuntu037> I have just installed it, should I reboot or anything?
[09:01] <bekks> ubuntu037: You need to reboot, yes.
[09:02] <ubuntu037> ok great, one second then!
[09:02] <bekks> BEFORE you do:
[09:02] <ubuntu037> oops!
[09:02] <ubuntu037> to late haha
[09:02] <bekks> You should slow down.
[09:02] <bekks> Because you didnt do what you were told to do: investigate /proc/interrupts
[09:02] <bekks> After rebooting, its pointless to do that.
[09:02] <ubuntu037> I pasted it
[09:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: also, what's the current "uptime" - so I can get an idea of how long it took achieve those totals
[09:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: it's fine; reboot is good, no point diagnosing on an old kernel version
[09:03] <ubuntu037> Uptime was about 4 hours
[09:03] <ubuntu037> 24*
[09:03] <ubuntu037> I installed the system yesterday about this time...
[09:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: right, so the LOC interrupt totals were quite high for that
[09:04] <ubuntu037> what is "LOC"?
[09:04] <TJ-> oh, maybe not so bad then!
[09:04] <TJ-> CPU-local interrupts
[09:04] <ubuntu037> thanks
[09:04] <TJ-> when the LAPIC fires (Local Advanced Programmable Interrupt Timer)
[09:05] <ubuntu037> when the machine boots the load is low, perhaps 0.2
[09:05] <ubuntu037> at first I thought it was top/htop reporting the wrong information or adding 1.00 to the correct number
[09:05] <TJ-> ubuntu037: generally the load average is due to internal kernel waiting, so it doesn't show up in any kind of process or I/O (disk, network) anaylsis.
[09:06] <bekks> Even 0.2 is quite high for an idling machine :)
[09:06] <ubuntu037> this is what I thought, the machine is replacing an older machine with a lesser CPU, no SSD's and Less RAM and that idles at 0.1
[09:06] <ubuntu037> + and it has a little traffic on it
[09:07] <TJ-> ubuntu037: it's not abnormal on a multi-core system like that to see a high load average
[09:07] <bekks> Sounds like the old machine would have been sufficient :)
[09:07] <ocnios> Hello
[09:08] <TJ-> ubuntu037: I've seen quite a few E5-1650s recently with the same
[09:08] <ubuntu037> the strange thing is that we have an identical machine (in terms of hardware) and software stack in our cluster and it's nowhere near this kind of load, even under strain
[09:08] <TJ-> ubuntu037: same mobo/firmware version?
[09:09] <ubuntu037> that I am not sure about unfortunately
[09:09] <ubuntu037> Machine has now rebooted, load is 1.07, htop reports no movement on the 12 CPU's
[09:09] <bekks> ubuntu037: So take a look at powertop.
[09:10] <ubuntu037> 0.7% on a random core every 5(ish) seconds or somehting
[09:10] <TJ-> ubuntu037: differences due to firmware/ACPI can often contribute. once it is booted looking at dmesg ouput you can get the mobo/firmware version with "dmesg | grep DMI:"
[09:10] <TJ-> ubuntu037: is it a HA cluster?
[09:11] <TJ-> ubuntu037: '5ish seconds' sounds like a write-back cache flush
[09:11] <ubuntu037> what am I looking for in `powertop` ?
[09:11] <bekks> ubuntu037: The output :)
[09:12] <ubuntu037> ++ :)
[09:12] <ubuntu037> Summary: 109.3 wakeups/second, 0.0 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 1.4% CPU use
[09:12] <TJ-> ubuntu037: check the idle stats
[09:12] <bekks> ubuntu037: Thats just one line of the output.
[09:12] <ubuntu037> shall I pastebin?
[09:12] <TJ-> ubuntu037: if it is truely idling, the C3 percentage should be over 80%
[09:12] <TJ-> yes please
[09:12] <ubuntu037> http://pastebin.com/JZG9DYB5
[09:13] <ubuntu037> C6-HSW 99.3%
[09:14] <bekks> ubuntu037: C6 with almost 100% is ok.
[09:15] <ubuntu037> this is the "Tunables" tab http://pastebin.com/PE0chfxa
[09:15] <TJ-> ubuntu037: that looks fine, C6 is a deeper sleep state... but that might be the reason, because deeper sleep state == longer latencies
[09:16] <ubuntu037> http://pastebin.com/TeGpHN4G <--- Device Stats tab
[09:16] <bekks> powertop is designed to tell show you whats going on regarding power consumption
[09:17] <TeoD360> hi all
[09:18] <TJ-> ubuntu037: which CPU idle governor is operating?
[09:18] <ubuntu037> Sorry, how do I find that out?
[09:18] <ubuntu037> (I'm a programmer not a kernel guy :/ )
[09:19] <TJ-> ubuntu037: "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
[09:20] <ubuntu037> about 10 lines all stating "Performance"
[09:20] <ubuntu037> 12 lines perhaps (make sense for the 12 cores)
[09:21] <ubuntu037> sorry I have to go for a minute, my new born is crying very loudly!
[09:21] <TJ-> ubuntu037: that's correct
[09:23] <ren0v0> ok i've asked this over and over to no response
[09:23] <ren0v0> my software updater keeps telling me there are updates
[09:23] <ren0v0> but i've set it to notify me "never"
[09:24] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, open a terminal: sudo apt-get update | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:24] <cfhowlett> paste the url here.
[09:25] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, what does repository lists have to do with software updater asking me to update?
[09:25] <ren0v0> i have "automatically check for updates" set to *never*
[09:26] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, this will display exactly what is seeking the update - something that would be helpful to know
[09:26] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, I'd bet/hope you did not disable automatic security upgrades
[09:27] <ren0v0> cfhowlett, wait, so its not possible to turn this off via GUI? (security)
[09:28] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, it IS possible but you are rather guessing at this point. get the information and then you'll know. sudo apt-get update ONLY displays what is requesting update. it downloads/installs nothing
[09:28] <ren0v0> i can see what packages, they are security updates likely right
[09:28] <ren0v0> i want to turn this off
[09:28] <ren0v0> so i'll find out how, thanks
[09:29] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, you want to turn off SECURITY? unwise ...
[09:29] <ren0v0> yes
[09:29] <ren0v0> i'm in the terminal 95% of the time so its fine
[09:29] <TJ-> ren0v0: there's a difference between a GUI component notifying you, and actually checking for the updates. It sounds like your problem is the former ?
[09:29] <ren0v0> TJ-, yup
[09:30] <TJ-> ren0v0: which ubuntu release, and which DE (Unity) ?
[09:30] <ren0v0> sound it /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[09:30] <ren0v0> found*
[09:30] <cfhowlett> nicely done!
[09:30] <TJ-> ren0v0: that's for *applying* updates
[09:30] <ren0v0> hmm
[09:31] <ren0v0> well its currently not commented out, and it doesn't "automatically" install, it asks me, so still not the right file?
[09:32] <TJ-> ren0v0: I'd suspect you're getting notifications due to 99update-notifier
[09:32] <AvatarA> huh, unattended does not ask
[09:32] <AvatarA> that's why it's unattended
[09:32] <TJ-> ren0v0: but even then, the GUI will just check the file that script touches, so the GUI component is still the issue
[09:34] <ren0v0> its odd, i've been running 14.04 for ages and recently reinstalled, i dont remember ever getting these popups, ever
[09:35] <AvatarA> getting those popups is default behavior for ubuntu 14
[09:35] <ren0v0> there aren't even any packages to install via cli lol
[09:36] <ren0v0> 2 kept back
[09:36] <ren0v0> ok stuff it, at least i'm on the right track i'll deal with it nother day, thanks
[09:36] <cfhowlett> ren0v0, eh, might want to check that with a simulation: apt-get -s dist-upgrades
[09:37] <cfhowlett> dist-upgrade
[09:38] <TJ-> ren0v0: setting may be somewhere like $HOME/.gconf/apps/update-notifier/%gconf.xml
[09:41] <TJ-> ren0v0: last answer here seems to confirm the 99update-notifier suggestion http://askubuntu.com/questions/218755/how-to-disable-the-update-manager-popup
[09:51] <ubuntu037> sorry about that, seems my son likes to cry A LOT!
[09:54] <ubuntu037> so is it less likely to be software (kernel) and more likely to be a hardware issue?
[09:57] <ubuntu037> Regarding the Mobo / Firmware, they're different on both machines
[10:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: which one is on older firmware?
[10:03] <TJ-> ubuntu037: or, do you mean the mobos are different?
[10:06] <rugsey> hey, how do i install a windows .iso on a bootable drive FROM a linux system? i'm a newbie, please help haha
[10:08] <cfhowlett> rugsey, short answer: you don't. get a windows machine, make your windows USB and install away
[10:08] <cfhowlett> rugsey, for further assistance, ask ##windows
[10:08] <TJ-> rugsey: if the ISO image is hybrid bootable, and you are targeting a USB mass storage device, "dd if=path/to/windows.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=100M conv=fdatasync,fsync"
[10:09] <rugsey> thank you very much....
[10:09] <TJ-> rugsey: if you want to *execute* the windows.iso and whilst it is running, install Windows to a disk device, then use a virtual machine
[10:10] <cfhowlett> this ^^
[10:10] <rafibd01717> ping
[10:10] <rugsey> sweet, thank you
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !test | rafibd01717
[10:10] <rafibd01717> what is the command to install vagrant on Ubuntu 14?
[10:11] <rafibd01717> and install virtualbox on ubuntu?
[10:12] <ubuntu037> TJ- : the new machine is the newer firmware
[10:12] <ubuntu037> I'm just trying to boot into a rescue kernel to see if the loads are the same
[10:14] <bekks> ubuntu037: How does that help in debugging?
[10:14] <autoit> hey guys! i have dual boot setup in my pc.but when i boot into ubuntu my hdd seems to make audible clicking sounds. when i opena folder i can distinctively hear it. but when i boot into windows it disappears. i have checked the smart attributes and they are all good. any help?
[10:15] <rafibd01717> I am using ubuntu 14.04LTS and want to upgrade it to 15.10. How can I upgrade it?
[10:15] <cfhowlett> autoit, audible clicking? Nope, I wouldn't trust that hardware no matter what smart attributes is telling you.
[10:16] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, 14.04 >> 14.10 >> 15.04 >> 15.10
[10:16] <cfhowlett> or clean install 15.10
[10:16] <bekks> autoit: so show us the smart attributes i a pastebin.
[10:16] <autoit> cfhowlett: it disappears in windows completely
[10:16] <autoit> bekks: one moment
[10:17] <rafibd01717> cfhowlett: you mean I need to upgrade in this looooong way!!!
[10:17] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, you asked how. I explained both options
[10:17] <bekks> autoit: It disappears in Windows because Windows uses different areas on your disk.
[10:17] <rafibd01717> I dont want to do clean install
[10:17] <rafibd01717> it would require downloading a big iso
[10:17] <bekks> rafibd01717: Then you need to upgrade that long way.
[10:18] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:18] <rafibd01717> very bad
[10:18] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, then you have to do the incremental installs I described. OR wait for 16.04 : 14.04 will directly upgrade to 16.04
[10:18] <bekks> rafibd01717: And upgrading will require even a lot more downloading.
[10:18] <cfhowlett> and 14.04 IS still supported
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> rafibd01717 bith ways take a long time, choose the easiest, which is fresh install
[10:18] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> both*
[10:19] <rafibd01717> actually not a good way for people from 3rd world countries.
[10:19] <rafibd01717> we pay huge amount for every MB than developed country users
[10:19] <bekks> rafibd01717: 14.04 is supported untile 2019.
[10:19] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, why do you suddenly need to upgrade? 14.04 still works and is still supported
[10:19] <rafibd01717> bekks: good to know
[10:20] <rafibd01717> just wanted be to updated
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> rafibd01717 i live in a 'rich' country and am still using 14.04 too
[10:20] <rafibd01717> actually I don't have any problem with 14
[10:20] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, sudo apt full-upgrade will get you updated
[10:21] <rafibd01717> what does this command do actually?
[10:21] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, 14.04 >>> 14.04.3
[10:21] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:21] <rafibd01717> thanks
[10:21] <rafibd01717> well anyone know how can i install virtualbox on ubuntu?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, sudo apt install virtualbox
[10:22] <rafibd01717> thanks guy
[10:22] <rafibd01717> from .deb file what should be the command?
[10:23] <rafibd01717> sudo apt-get installl something.deb?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> virtualbox is in the repos. why are you mucking about with out of repo debs?
[10:24] <rafibd01717> because in this way I can install vbox in my another machine without downloading it again and again.
[10:24] <rafibd01717> as said I need to pay huge amount for every MB
[10:24] <rafibd01717> not talking about GB even in 2015 yet talking about MB
[10:24] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, where did you find this .deb?
[10:25] <rafibd01717> virtualbox.org provides i386.de
[10:25] <rafibd01717> i386.deb
[10:26] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, you have a 386 system?
[10:26] <rafibd01717> I have a 32bit machine
[10:26] <cfhowlett> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[10:27] <rafibd01717> dpkg means what? and thanks for the help. :)
[10:28] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, in your terminal: man dpkg and read
[10:28] <autoit> these are the smart attributes: http://pastebin.com/DsKZZxJk the drive only makes noise in ubuntu and not in windows.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> rafibd01717 dpkg meand debian package
[10:28] <ashraf> sudo dpkg -i DEB_PACKAGE
[10:29] <ashraf> it's for package installation
[10:29] <rafibd01717> okay
[10:29] <autoit> bekks: i have posted the pastebin
[10:30] <ubuntu037> Ok so the top is still at 1.00 in a rescue kernel so it's probably hardware based?
[10:30] <rafibd01717> to completely remove a package again what should be the command?
[10:31] <ashraf> sudo dpkg -r PACKAGE_NAME
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> rafibd01717 i'm curious, in which country are you
[10:32] <rafibd01717> ashraf bhai bangladeshi naki? :)
[10:32] <ashraf> hmm, :-)
[10:32] <rafibd01717> MonkeyDust: from BD
[10:32] <autoit> cfhowlett: i have posted the smart attributes
[10:33] <cfhowlett> autoit, I'm blind to pastebinit.com because China ...
[10:34] <autoit> anybody else can help? hdd is making noise in ubuntu but not in windows. smart attributes ok
[10:34] <rafibd01717> where should I install .deb packages? In Home? What is the best practice?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> autoit define noises, which ubuntu version, did it work before etc
[10:36] <cfhowlett> rafibd01717, dpkg -i should direct it to its proper location without your intervention
[10:36] <rafibd01717> I see
[10:36] <autoit> ubuntu 14.04 hdd has never failed till now. noise is like... heads are clicking against something... i dont know how to describe it
[10:36] <autoit> like normal read opeartion but louder
[10:37] <autoit> it goes away completely in windows
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> autoit when did it start, what has changed
[10:38] <rafibd01717> well I am getting errors..
[10:38] <rafibd01717> softeng@softeng:~/virtualbox$ sudo dpkg -i virtualbox-5.0_5.0.10-104061~Ubuntu~trusty_i386.deb dpkg: considering removing virtualbox in favour of virtualbox-5.0 ... dpkg: no, cannot proceed with removal of virtualbox (--auto-deconfigure will help): virtualbox-qt depends on virtualbox (= 4.3.10-dfsg-1ubuntu5) virtualbox is to be removed. dpkg: regarding virtualbox-5.0_5.0.10-104061~Ubuntu~trusty_i386.deb containing virtualbox
[10:38] <whothehellami> hi, I am not sure if this issue is hardware related but I don't think so... I have a dual boot system with win and ubuntu 15.04 and grub is starting rly slow and needs about 3 sec for recognising my input. after selecting an entry it is also loading very slow
[10:38] <autoit> since the first time i booted into ubuntu. it has always been like this. earlier i ignored it. but it became irritating. noise levels have not changed since when i first installed ubuntu
[10:39] <TJ-> autoit: that sounds like the drive is resetting. check 'dmesg' for I/O errors.
[10:40] <autoit> there seem to be none.
[10:41] <rafibd01717> I think I need to clean my old virtualbox first right?
[10:41] <rafibd01717> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13392254/
[10:41] <autoit> the sound comes when there is a read/write op. because when i open a folder i can hear it or when i save a file
[10:42] <autoit> MonkeyDust: anything?
[10:43] <rafibd01717> so how can I remove my old virtualbox?
[10:44] <wmorri> rafibd01717, have you tried to use sudo apt-get autoremove virtualbox?
[10:44] <rafibd01717> no. trying
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> autoit is it old hardware, maybe? which windows is on it?
[10:45] <wmorri> whothehellami, does it happen with you choose both ubuntu and windows options?
[10:45] <rafibd01717> wmorri: is this command used to remove all packages installed from remote?
[10:46] <autoit> its win8. hardware is not old 2 years at max. plus there is the fact as soon as i boot into windows it goes away
[10:47] <TJ-> autoit: OK, I think you'll need to use hdparm to set the head-retract timeout, or disable the agressive power management
[10:48] <wmorri> rafibd01717, you can use it to remove all packages that are no longer needed or to remove one package and the dependencies as far a I know.
[10:48] <TJ-> autoit: I've seen these issues occasionally with some drives, not quite sure what triggers it
[10:48] <autoit> i read about setting the power management to 255. but i was afraid it will affect normal drive operation in windows as well
[10:48] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:49] <rafibd01717> wmorri: do I need to restart pc after removing packages?
[10:49] <wmorri> rafibd01717, no.
[10:49] <whothehellami> wmorri, I need to check this.
[10:49] <wmorri> whothehellami, okay
[10:49] <autoit> will using hdparm not affect drive operations in windows
[10:50] <wmorri> rafibd01717, if you need an exact definition for autoremove just run the command man apt-get and scroll down.
[10:50] <rafibd01717> hm
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> autoit ubuntu and windows work independentally, unluss you used wubi
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> unless*
[10:51] <autoit> but the hard disk is same. and i just checked power management seems to be off for my hdd
[10:52] <amburger> is it possible to make compton show shadow only for popup windows, like reverse exclude-shadow setting
[10:53] <whothehellami> wmorri, after selecting windows inside the grub menu I see a screen with the grub colour for about 4-5 sec
[10:53] <whothehellami> wmorri, this should not take that long?
[10:54] <wmorri> whothehellami, not normally it should boot right away.
[10:56] <whothehellami> wmorri. also I am wondering about the time needed before the selected entry moves if I move with the arrow keys the first time
[10:56] <hunterzeroxxx> hello friend
[10:57] <nikolam> I have an user not using Unity desktop. What is alternative desktop search option that one can use and has an GUI for search results (A la Windows Viste/7+ disk search) ?
[10:58] <wmorri> whothehellami, I don't know enough about grub to know the answer to that. I am going to look and see if there is a log file that can help us.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> nikolam, Ms. Cleo has the night off, so you'll have to actually tell what desktop he IS using.
[10:59] <nikolam> Xfce cfhowlett and ther is catfish but afraid not best solution?
[10:59] <nikolam> also it would need some indexing before search I suppose
[10:59] <hunterzeroxxx> hello i am hunter
[11:00] <cfhowlett> hunterzeroxxx, this is ubuntu support. stay on topic or chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <hunterzeroxxx> yes i am ubuntu user
[11:00] <wmorri> whothehellami, what version of ubuntu are you loading into?
[11:01] <hunterzeroxxx> who use gnome here ?
[11:01] <whothehellami> wmorri, 15.04 with 3.19.0-33-generic
[11:01] <cfhowlett> hunterzeroxxx, wrong question. describe YOUR problem on YOUR computer.
[11:01] <amburger> nikolam: google find locate linux ,it's not gui
[11:01] <hunterzeroxxx> ok
[11:01] <wmorri> whothehellami, thank you
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> nikolam there's something called 'docky' or so, search tool, i'm lookng...
[11:01] <nikolam> amburger, I know find, locate , needs GUI
[11:02] <hunterzeroxxx> i have not a problem in my ubuntu i jut want chat with people
[11:02] <cfhowlett> hunterzeroxxx, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:02] <hunterzeroxxx> ok
[11:03] <dahui> Hi all... i'm getting sometimes problems with my wifi (intel centrino advanced 6235).. sometimes it doesn't connect and then i reboot the OS and starts working again.. I did two sollutions that I find (http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/322-ubuntu-trusty-intel-centrino-6235-slow-freeze and I install this driver https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi) but I just want to know if has any definition on this sollution because it's not
[11:03] <stefano> salve a tutti
[11:04] <wmorri> cfhowlett, if you have a minute could you help whothehellami? He is having sloow boot times like 3-4 seconds from grub and I am just not finding anything to help him.
[11:04] <stefano> per avere una lista buona di iptv cm si fa
[11:04] <cfhowlett> wmorri, I had an eye on that, but I have not knowledge of his issue. sorry
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !it | stefano
[11:05] <wmorri> cfhowlett, okay I will keep digging.
[11:05] <stefano> ok grazie
[11:06] <whothehellami> wmorri, what I can see with dmesg is not related to that issue because dmesg shows what happens after grub?
[11:07] <amburger> nikolam: http://linux.die.net/man/1/gnome-search-tool ?
[11:07] <wmorri> whothehellami, yes i beleive so.
[11:12] <wmorri> whothehellami, I would have a look in /var/log/syslog. It will give you a ton of information look for anything to do with grub or booting.
[11:16] <wmorri> dahui,hi have you looked at the wifi touble shooting guide yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[11:18] <dahui> wmorri: nops.. i never see this link.. i directly search sollution for my problem specific
[11:19] <dahui> what i find is that these new kernels are having problems with this wifi card
[11:19] <dahui> i don't know if this is possible.. becausa sometimes is working (like right now)
[11:21] <wmorri> dahui, if you think that it might be a bug then I would look at reporting a bug. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[11:22] <dahui> wmorri: i was thinking to install a debian distro just to confirme if they are having this problem..
[11:23] <jibon> how can I install virtualbox on ubuntu?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> jibon, sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[11:25] <wmorri> dahui, ubuntu is based on debian.
[11:25] <jibon_> hey $sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms line is required to install vbox?
[11:25] <jibon_> sorry I got dc
[11:26] <jibon_> aaa
[11:27] <rugsey> where can i download a clean windows 7 iso? mine isn't working for some reason, says it is preactivated
[11:27] <bekks> rugsey: Ask the Microsoft sales support.
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> rugsey ##windows
[11:28] <bekks> rugsey: This is the totally wrong place for it.
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> rugsey type /j ##windows
[11:28] <jibon_> bekks: can you remember me?
[11:28] <bekks> jibon_: Sure.
[11:28] <rugsey> i'm installing it on virtualbox
[11:28] <jibon_> I am asking to know vbox installation on Ubuntu
[11:28] <bekks> rugsey: Doesnt matter.
[11:28] <bekks> jibon_: You have been told twice already.
[11:29] <jibon_> bekks: I got a dc
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> what's a dc
[11:29] <jibon_> can you please copy paste the lines?
[11:29] <jibon_> disconnected
[11:29] <bekks> jibon_: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[11:30] <jibon_> ok from where you usually download boxes?
[11:30] <bekks> From nowhere. You install them yourself.
[11:30] <jibon_> I want to install centos server and a mac latest os
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> jibon_ stop
[11:30] <bekks> jibon_: So do it.
[11:31] <bekks> jibon_: Do you own Apple hardware?
[11:31] <jibon_> no
[11:31] <jibon_> will it not run on a hp machine?
[11:31] <bekks> jibon_: It is illegal then.
[11:32] <jibon_> hm
[11:32] <whothehellami> wmorri, I don't know if this is a problem but inside syslog one of the first lines is "ureadahead[213]: ureadahead:/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-352_hybrid.conf: file or directory not found"
[11:32] <whothehellami> wmorri, but I purged nvidia* some time ago
[11:33] <Sohron> hello fellow ubuntuites :p
[11:33] <wmorri> whothehellami, are you still using the nvidia card?
[11:34] <Sohron> is anyone here having playback problems with spotify-client?
[11:34] <Sohron> like a song in the middle of a playlist seemingly randomly just won't start to play...
[11:35] <Sohron> play/pause doesn't help at least
[11:35] <quest9> hi
[11:36] <Sohron> i know the linux version is just a preview, but still
[11:36] <whothehellami> wmorri, no drivers are installed so I don't think so. I wanted to install one but after that I got a black screen after rebooting so I've purged the nvidia stuff.
[11:37] <Sohron> whothehellami: can you get to single-user mode with nvidia drivers installed? if so i have fixed some nvidia issues by reinstalling the drivers...
[11:37] <whothehellami> wmorri, as far as I can remember I had this grub problem after a fresh installation of ubuntu (and windows)
[11:38] <whothehellami> Sohron, sry I don't know what exactly u mean with "single-user mode with nvidia drivers installed"
[11:39] <wmorri> Sohron, I think that you answered your own question saying that it is a preview. things will break.
[11:40] <Sohron> wmorri: yeps
[11:40] <CronX3r> d
[11:40] <jibon_> hm
[11:40] <Sohron> whothehellami: you can boot to single user by editing the grub commandline before boot
[11:41] <Sohron> whothehellami: it's a non-graphical root shell
[11:42] <Sohron> whothehellami: so proprietary nvidia drivers won't be in the way, at least i've had it working
[11:43] <whothehellami> Sohron, stopping the X server is not sufficient?
[11:44] <wmorri> Sohron, so i have been trying to help whothehellami with his really slow load times out of grub. He wasn't sure if the nvidia message might have something to do with it. I just wanted to get you up to speed.
[11:44] <Sohron> whothehellami: i've had no luck doing anything when nvidia drivers are making trouble and booting to X
[11:45] <Sohron> wmorri: ah so, okay
[11:45] <Sohron> whothehellami: i don't think grub knows anything about nvidia drivers
[11:46] <whothehellami> Sohron, yes I think the nvidia driver problem has nothing to do with the loading time after selecting something inside grub. especially if this is also happening if I want to start windows
[11:47] <Sohron> indeed whothehellami
[11:48] <rgautam98> When i reboot my pc, it tells me that there is an error in the / directory in the tmp directory. Can anybody tell me what this is.
[11:48] <Sohron> rgautam98: what is the error message actually?
[11:49] <rgautam98> It says that there is an in the / directory
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> rgautam98 the exact error message can help find a solution
[11:50] <rgautam98> And when i hit f it says there is an error in /tmp directory
[11:50] <rgautam98> Thats all it said
[11:50] <Sohron> hmmm...
[11:50] <rgautam98> Now my pc is taking a long time to boot
[11:50] <Sohron> rgautam98: is /tmp a separate partition?
[11:50] <rgautam98> No
[11:51] <wmorri> rgautam98, a long time like 30 seconds or 5 minutes?
[11:51] <Sohron> well, i've not met this problem rgautam98 and the error message is very vague :(
[11:51] <rgautam98> I have restarted it
[11:51] <rgautam98> The pc
[11:52] <wmorri> okay rgautam98
[11:52] <rgautam98> It is checking for errors now
[11:53] <wmorri> whothehellami, to get back to your issue, I would keep looking for anything that has to do with grub or booting in syslog.
[11:54] <fsociety[00]dat> hi #ubuntu :) is it possible to export system-wide font setting from an other Ubuntu based distro and use it for other distros? ( for Xubuntu example )
[11:54] <wmorri> fsociety[00]dat, you want to use the ubuntu font on Xubuntu?
[11:55] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, you can install fonts to buntu distros
[11:55] <fsociety[00]dat> wmorri: no, I want to use Trisquel GNU/Linux system-wide font setting for Xubuntu.
[11:55] <rgautam98> It is working fine now
[11:56] <rgautam98> Even i find the error a little vague
[11:56] <rgautam98> But thank you for your support
[11:56] <fsociety[00]dat> cfhowlett: to install is not important for me. settings are important.
[11:56] <TJ-> whothehellami: the best way to debug that is to first identify if the issue is with GRUB loading the vmlinuz and initrd.img kernel files into memory, or if the issue is caused whilst the kernel is initialising, or the initrd.img scripts are running.
[11:56] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, install the font. edit your settings. done.
[11:57] <TJ-> whothehellami: to do that, edit the kernel command-line in GRUB and remove any "quiet splash" and add "debug" so the kernel provides lots of feedback on the console.
[11:59] <whothehellami> TJ-, ok I'll do that
[12:00] <fsociety[00]dat> cfhowlett: if I do this manually screen font qualities and sizes not seem same. I have small netbook screen and especially firefox fonts are the best I have ever seen in Trisquel GNU/Linux .
[12:00] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, so install those fonts ...
[12:00] <fsociety[00]dat> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:01] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, but pretty sure yo can't install settings from a foreign distro
[12:02] <fsociety[00]dat> cfhowlett: Trisquel GNU/Linux is Ubuntu based and FSF supported distro, you know.
[12:02] <cfhowlett> fsociety[00]dat, true ...
[12:05] <ola42> hi guys, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 LTS based LXLE and I'm unable to hibernate it with sudo pm-hibernate can anyone help ??
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !lxle | ola42, nope
[12:24] <taavi90> Hello. My screen goes off after i lock my computer..how can i set it to stay on permamently?
[12:26] <loa> taavi90, change this it setting, where power managment i think.
[12:26] <taavi90> loa : it doesnt help.
[12:26] <wmorri> taavi90, I think you can change that in the brightness & lock.
[12:27] <loa> strange.
[12:27] <taavi90> wmorri : yeah, i tried that too. It doesnt help
[12:27] <taavi90> I googled and found various of options
[12:27] <taavi90> Still nothing
[12:27] <taavi90> I´m on 14.04
[12:28] <whothehellami> TJ-, wmorri, I've added 'debug' and removed 'quiet spalsh'. I think that the IBM TrackPoint needs some time...
[12:28] <wmorri> taavi90, if you set your screen to never turn off, and your lock to say 5 minutes that doesn't work.
[12:29] <loa> taavi90, https://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[12:29] <loa> ah i missed again.
[12:29] <taavi90> I dont have laptop...i have PC
[12:30] <rgautam98> taavi90: you can do it in the following way
[12:30] <rgautam98> go to system settings
[12:30] <wmorri> whothehellami, you have moved beyond my skill level.
[12:30] <rgautam98> go to brightness and lock
[12:31] <taavi90> rgautam98 : yes..
[12:31] <rgautam98> in the tab "Turn screen off when inactive for"
[12:32] <whothehellami> wmorri, ok. anyway thanks for helping
[12:32] <rgautam98> put it to never
[12:32] <taavi90> rgautam98 : i do have it on never
[12:33] <rgautam98> tavi90: and still the screen turns off ?
[12:33] <wmorri> whothehellami, wait for TJ- or MonkeyDust and they might have more information than I. Hope you figure it out.
[12:37] <TJ-> whothehellami: was there a long pause during kernel start-up then?
[12:38] <whothehellami> TJ-, is there a way to step through the start-up process?
[12:38] <TJ-> whothehellami: not easily, no. When the kernel is discovering hardware that's all automatic.
[12:39] <taavi90> rgautam98 : yes
[12:39] <taavi90> rgautam98 : it doesnt work
[12:39] <whothehellami> TJ-, after changing to debug and booting. I think what took longest was the TrackPoint thing. I'll copy related dmesg output..
[12:39] <taavi90> after i lock my screen it immedinately starts to fade
[12:40] <TJ-> whothehellami: the kernel initialises the hardware, then executes the /init shell script in the initialramfs (initrd.img file) which ensures the root file-system is available and mounted, and then it pivots to the root file-system and executes the /sbin/init as process ID 1, which brings the system up fully
[12:45] <theptr> hi someone who nows how to make the icons on ubuntu desktop 14.04 by default smaller ? i found some guides but non of them work
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> theptr you can do it in dconf-editor
[12:51] <whothehellami> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/PCJ6qCXG with quiet spalsh I see a 'violet' screen after selecting an entry also after selecting windows. I can see this screen for a few seconds before login screen appears or windows loading screen what made me thought that this is not as it should be. with 'debug' it seems like the TrackPoint causes that issue because this takes some seconds before I can login
[12:57] <nonamae> Hi! Is there an alternate version of 15.10. If there is I cannot find it. I am trying to do a software raid install, and the howto says I will need ubuntu alternate for that. Maybe I should go with the server version? Thanx!
[12:57] <nonamae> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> theptr in dconf-editor, try org.gnome.nautilus.icon-view
[12:57] <whothehellami> TJ-, should I see a screen with grub colour after selecting windows? I am not sure any more if this an issue at all but I am used to use a faster grub with less delay
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !alternate | nonamae
[12:59] <swengin> I'm running a long running process(import script) in a remote machine that might take days to be completed is there a way to have it running without it being interrupted by my network connection?
[12:59] <swengin> I'm doing that using ssh it's an ec2 instance
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> swengin sounds like a 'ssh keepalive' issue
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> swengin also consider using 'screen'... the process would continue even after ssh was disconnected
[13:01] <swengin> MonkeyDust ok thank you so much
[13:01] <apb__> Having a problem with wine, can't install sketchup.
[13:02] <apb__> https://pastee.org/25f64
[13:02] <apb__> ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[13:03] <whothehellami> swengin, MonkeyDust, mby 'nohup cmd &' ?
[13:04] <soupnanodesukar> apb__: change your reported windows version with wincfg
[13:04] <soupnanodesukar> *winecfg
[13:07] <dengxinjun> What are you going to do?
[13:07] <dengxinjun> What are you going to do now?
[13:07] <apb__> soupnanodesukar: thanks!!
[13:07] <shan> hi
[13:07] <dengxinjun> hi
[13:08] <dengxinjun> What are you going to do now?
[13:08] <shan> may ask a question for IRC server?
[13:08] <dengxinjun> Yes
[13:08] <dengxinjun> I'm ask a question
[13:08] <shan> i have some prob .. when i try connect to my server ,, it show connection refused?
[13:09] <shan> how to solve this problem?
[13:09] <bekks> shan: are you using ubuntu?
[13:09] <shan> yup
[13:09] <bekks> shan: and how are you trying to connect to "your server"?
[13:09] <dengxinjun> much
[13:10] <shan> i'm create my new IRC and configure it using irc-hybrid and anope
[13:10] <dengxinjun> Oh
[13:11] <bekks> shan: What do you mean by "I'm create my new IRC"?
[13:11] <rory> shan: Can you please run the command: "netstat -tulpn" and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:11] <rory> shan: then share the URL in this channel
[13:11] <shan> https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/irc-server-with-ircd-hybrid-and-anope-on-ubuntu-15-04/#step-installation-of-the-required-dependencies
[13:11] <rory> shan: run this command on the server
[13:11] <shan> i follow this tutorial
[13:14] <rory> shan: you can copy text from a terminal with ctrl-shift-c
[13:14] <rory> shan: or you can do it all in one with this command, which will give you a URL to share in this channel: netstat -tulpn | nc rory.sh 9999
[13:15] <andrea_> hello
[13:16] <shan> i'll try
[13:17] <Li> I even install winusb to create bootable windows usb but it's not working here is the errors I'm http://imgur.com/edit
[13:18] <rory> Li: try again with that picture
[13:18] <rory> Li: that url isn't quite right
[13:19] <vi2nano> dd has always worked fine for me
[13:19] <pukapy> /msg NickServ identify 118932
[13:19] <Li> rory: http://imgur.com/ZAIaEVf
[13:19] <pukapy> hiii
[13:19] <rory> awkward
[13:19] <pukapy> what have i done
[13:20] <Li> vi2nano: I spend the whole day with dd trying to make windows 7 or 8 bootable usb
[13:20] <rory> Li: run it as root
[13:20] <Li> tried all possible combination which I'm already used to do before!!!
[13:20] <rory> Li: it says "permission denied"
[13:20] <Li> rory: I do everything with sudo
[13:21] <vi2nano> Don't run it as root. just chown the dir
[13:21] <Li> what dir? I was refereing to using sudo dd
[13:21] <Li> and the same with sudo winusb
[13:22] <rory> Li: This answer seems to be related to your issue http://askubuntu.com/a/539803
[13:22] <Li> it gives me all the crap about read-only crap
[13:23] <Li> rory: I read that already but not solving the problem in here
[13:23] <vi2nano> Still should be able to unmount the drive and remount as read/write
[13:23] <rory> Li: I don't fully understand that picture. Are you trying to install to /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc ?
[13:24] <rory> Li: It seems to be contradictory
[13:24] <Li> both are usb sticks and I tried on both of them
[13:24] <Li> both are newly formated with cfdisk
[13:24] <rory> Li: have you tried with unetbootin? Has always worked for me http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[13:26] <apb__> Failed to load DLL C:\Program Files (x86)\SketchUp\SketchUp 2015\ThumbsUp.dll Ubuntu 14.04 LTS... wine
[13:26] <loupe> hello
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> apb__ #winehq (or ##winehq)
[13:26] <cfhowlett> apb__, for help with installing wine and/or programs to wine, go to their support
[13:27] <apb__> sorry... pasted to wrong channel :/
[13:27] <loupe> my macbook pro went to sleep and i couldn't set it back to normal after pressing a key
[13:27] <loupe> anyone the same issue?
[13:27] <deviloper> hey can anybody tell me the proper channel for ubuntu-touch queries?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !touch | deviloper
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> loupe this is ubuntu support, sure you want to be here?
[13:28] <deviloper> cfhowlett: thanks :)
[13:28] <MrKeuner> hi, using LTS I have to enter my private key pass each time I need to use my key. How can I have my system ask it only once each login?
[13:28] <Li> rory: I tried but it doesn't recognize the usb drive
[13:29] <Li> s
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner what's the difference between a key and a private key?
[13:29] <rory> Li: so you (a) formatted as ntfs, (b) selected the "show all drives" option in UNetbootin ?
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner key to do or use what?
[13:31] <MrKeuner> key is private key
[13:32] <vi2nano> I could never get Unetbootin to work properly for me so I've learned to live without it
[13:32] <MrKeuner> for instance I have my remote server do rsa key authentication and if I login 5 times, I am asked for rsa key pass 5 times
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner you mean ssh?
[13:33] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, yes
[13:33] <vi2nano> bootable iso's generally have their own bootloader in the image so you shouldn't need to install grub or other bootloader with one of those tools.
[13:33] <vi2nano> You can just unmount the drive and remount with the -w option and dd the file to the drive
[13:34] <Li> are there any images upload sites than this imgur?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner i guess you have to enter your password for sudo and then the remote password... an rsa key should make you able to login over ssh without ssh-key
[13:35] <Li> rory: yes .. unetbootin doesn't display any connected usb drives
[13:35] <Li> rory: even though they are appearing in the file browser normally
[13:36] <Li> rory: check this screenshot http://prntscr.com/958pvt
[13:36] <TJ-> MrKeuner: sounds like you need yo have ssh-agent running
[13:37] <Li> if choose type hard drive then the drive combobox is enabled .. otherwise disabled
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Use-RSA-Key-for-SSH-Authentication-38599.shtml
[13:37] <MrKeuner> TJ-, I think so, do I change some /etc file to run bash that way each time?
[13:37] <TJ-> MrKeuner: A regular install should enable ssh-agent for the log-in session automatically
[13:38] <MrKeuner> TJ-, are you on LTS?
[13:38] <TJ-> MrKeuner: you may need to call ssh-add once to cache the private key's pass-phrase
[13:38] <vi2nano> Li: have to tried to just unmount and remount with the -w option
[13:38] <TJ-> MrKeuner: I'm using 15.10 and 14.04 here
[13:39] <MrKeuner> oh, you mean regular ssh-agent install or, regular LTS install?
[13:39] <TJ-> MrKeuner: as in any Ubuntu install should install, and enable, ssh-agent for log-in sessions, whether at a console or via a display manager X session
[13:40] <TJ-> MrKeuner: check if its running to begin with: "pgrep ssh-agent"
[13:40] <Li> vi2nano: no
[13:40] <Li> vi2nano: I mounted with remount,rw
[13:41] <vi2nano> Li: I would try to umount and mkdir like /mnt/usbdrive and mount -w /dev/sdc
[13:42] <vi2nano> Li: mkdir as user not as sudo
[13:42] <MrKeuner> TJ-, this is a clean LTS install and not an upgrade from earlier version. pgrep ssh-agent returns null
[13:42] <TJ-> MrKeuner: hmmm, is it a server or desktop install?
[13:42] <MrKeuner> may there was an error I may have missed in install logs? This is a desktop install
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> bbl
[13:44] <MrKeuner> what if apt-get reinstall ssh-agent? which package is that? openssh-client?
[13:44] <AbuDhar> can I remove the zeitgeist-datahub safely?
[13:44] <AbuDhar> I don't need Unity btw.
[13:44] <TJ-> MrKeuner: The X session should execute /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent
[13:45] <rory> AbuDhar: if in doubt, you can do sudo apt-get -s remove zeitgeist-datahub
[13:45] <rory> AbuDhar: the -s is for "simulate"
[13:45] <AbuDhar> oh let me try that.
[13:45] <rory> AbuDhar: It will show you what would be done. You can pastebin it here and we can double-check
[13:45] <TJ-> MrKeuner: ssh-agent is part of ssh-client, along with ssh itself
[13:45] <MrKeuner> TJ-, I have such a file but it seems like it is 644
[13:45] <AbuDhar> Remv zeitgeist [0.9.14-0ubuntu4.1]
[13:45] <MrKeuner> so not executable...
[13:45] <AbuDhar> Remv zeitgeist-datahub [0.9.14-0ubuntu4.1]
[13:45] <TJ-> MrKeuner: that's fine
[13:45] <TJ-> MrKeuner: read the file - it is sourced not executed
[13:46] <rory> AbuDhar: Sounds like you're fine then, it's not going to remove 1000 other packages along with it :)
[13:46] <AbuDhar> hehe fine.
[13:46] <TJ-> MrKeuner: Are you starting the X server manually, or letting the lightdm display manager handle it?
[13:47] <MrKeuner> TJ-, I am not starting it manually. Default disp manager does that but I use gnomeshell
[13:47] <MrKeuner> can that be the reason?
[13:47] <Li> vi2nano: it doesn't allow me to mkdir into /mnt as a user
[13:47] <Li> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘usb’: Permission denied
[13:47] <TJ-> MrKeuner: I wouldn't have thought so, since it is supposed to be started by the Xsession facility, and as far as I am aware, gnome-shell wouldn't avoid that
[13:48] <MrKeuner> actually there is another papercut I noticed with this install. I wonder if they are related. waking up from sleep system wakes up unlocked...
[13:48] <TJ-> MrKeuner: maybe it does though; maybe there is some environment variable that is read by that 90x11-common_ssh-agent script that prevents it starting
[13:49] <TJ-> MrKeuner: I think the key part is "if has_option use-ssh-agent; then" ... "use-ssh-agent" being the operative bit
[13:50] <TJ-> MrKeuner: I find that via grep: "/etc/X11/Xsession.options:8:use-ssh-agent"
[13:52] <vi2nano> Li: Make it somewhere else then. Doesn't matter where as long as you know where it is.
[13:52] <vi2nano> I suppose it wouldn't matter as you'll have to mount as root
[13:52] <vi2nano> you could probably mkdir as root and have it work find
[13:52] <TJ-> MrKeuner: is there any record of it running in the environment: "env | grep SSH_AGENT_PID"
[13:53] <MrKeuner> TJ-, I found the line you mentioned but it is not commented out or something
[13:53] <MrKeuner> env | grep SSH_AGENT_PID returns null
[13:53] <TJ-> MrKeuner: OK, so its not that it started and exited early then, it just hasn't started
[13:54] <rory> I have a bunch of files called page1.jpg, page2.jpg ... page60.jpg. When I do stuff in bash with them using *, it iterates in alphabetical order (1, 10, 11, etc)
[13:54] <TJ-> MrKeuner: which suggests that Xsession isn't being used for some reason
[13:54] <rory> How can I get bash to enumerate * in NUMERICAL order?
[13:54] <TJ-> rory: pre-sort the list
[13:55] <rory> in this case I'm trying to do "convert *.jpg out.pdf"
[13:55] <rory> How would I pre-sort it in this case?
[13:55] <vi2nano> rory: are they all the same filename besides the number?
[13:55] <rory> oh ls
[13:55] <rory> yes vi2nano
[13:56] <vi2nano> page*.jpg
[13:56] <MrKeuner> TJ-, How can I check if it is used? pgrep -i xsession?
[13:56] <Li> Do you now what is this error I get "sudo: unable to resolve host myUserName"
[13:56] <rory> vi2nano: same deal
[13:56] <rory> vi2nano: I need to to be in numerical order not alphabetical
[13:56] <rory> vi2nano: in alphabetical order, it goes 1, 10, 11, 12... 2, 20, 21...
[13:56] <TJ-> MrKeuner: no, Xsession just calls scripts to configure the session
[13:58] <TJ-> MrKeuner: do you have "/usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop" ?
[13:59] <MrKeuner> I do
[13:59] <vi2nano> rory: try 'ls -v'
[13:59] <TJ-> MrKeuner: looking at the packages, gnome-shell depends on gnome-session, which installs that file, which I *think* is what allows gnome to be listed on the greeter screen
[13:59] <EriC^^> rory: convert $(for i in {1..9}; do echo page$i.jpg; for j in {0..9}; do echo page$i$j.jpg; done; done) out.pdf
[13:59] <TJ-> MrKeuner: what does the file contain? can you pastebin it?
[13:59] <MrKeuner> sure, just a sec please
[13:59] <EriC^^> something like that could work
[13:59] <Li> vi2nano .. rory : unetbootin is working now and able to see the usb
[14:00] <rory> yeah EriC^^ I was gradually converging on that one, you've saved me some time, thanks
[14:00] <Li> the problem was due to ntfs partition .. unetbootin requires fat32
[14:00] <Li> thank you guys
[14:00] <EriC^^> rory: np
[14:00] <MrKeuner> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/AsruAiEE
[14:03] <TJ-> MrKeuner: the only thing I can think is to look for clues in logs. The only ones that may have something will be under /var/log/lightdm/ I think, or possibly in $HOME/.xsession-errors
[14:04] <TJ-> MrKeuner: If this is a vanilla install, with no additional PPA/manually installed packages, and no custom configuration, then I'm at a loss as to why the Xsession isn't seeming to use the ssh-agent
[14:06] <MrKeuner> TJ-, thank you so much. I'll check and let you know if I find out
[14:07] <TJ-> MrKeuner: something you could do. Add the line "echo 'starting ssh-agent' >> /tmp/ssh-agent.log" to the top of /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent then try another log-in. If that log file isn't created you know that script isn't executed. If the log-file appears, but ssh-agent isn't running, you know the "if has_option use-ssh-agent ..." isn't triggered
[14:12] <icemac> Hi
[14:12] <icemac> Yo
[14:14] <icemac> Slow
[14:15] <icemac> Slooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[14:15] <icemac> G
[14:15] <icemac> O
[14:15] <icemac> H
[14:15] <icemac> O
[14:15] <OerHeks> too fast ..
[14:17] <HackerII> lol
[14:18] <HackerII> smoookin
[14:23] <wylex> A
[14:31] <nonamae> Ok I made a stripped volume on two SSDs on lvm2, but I am not sure it is now faster or not. Not sure how to test. Wit ' dd if=/dev/urandom of=testfileR bs=4k count=10000; sync;' the speed is the same 7,8 MB/s. With hdparm the Timing cached reads: is about the same 4257.12 MB/sec, but the Timing buffered disk reads is much faster on the lvm. sda:470 lvm:870 MB/sec
[14:32] <nonamae> So will it be faster like this?
[14:33] <nonamae> http://pastebin.com/LyEafJeB Here is how I was doing it
[14:42] <bekks> nonamae: And whats the actual issue in one sentence?
[14:42] <bekks> nonamae: using your bs and count values, it implies (for a sane benchmark), that you have 40000k RAM only.
[14:44] <zidsal> would anyone mind giving me a hand on getting a broadcom wireless card working? I try installing bcmwl-kernel-source however the command line gets stuck on DKMS: install complete
[14:46] <BluesKaj> zidsal, install dkms
[14:46] <nonamae> bekks, issue is that I am not sure that now it is faster
[14:46] <motaka2> hello, I am trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 but running sudo update-manager -d doesnt show the upgrade button in opening window
[14:47] <nonamae> bekks, if I made it right
[14:47] <bekks> nonamae: First, you have to benchmark your disks, not your RAM, as you did.
[14:47] <nonamae> now I am testing with dd if=/dev/zero of=./largefile bs=64k count=100000 and the result is 6553600000 bytes (6,6 GB) copied, 7,2175 s, 908 MB/s
[14:47] <zidsal> BluesKaj I already have dkms should I reinstall it?
[14:48] <bekks> nonamae: why are you changing bs now?
[14:48] <nonamae> against 3276800000 bytes (3,3 GB) copied, 7,82616 s, 419 MB/s so I thing I can be happy now :)
[14:48] <bekks> nonamae: you are comparing cars and apple trees.
[14:48] <BluesKaj> zidsal, no need to reinstall, which broadcom chip ?
[14:49] <nonamae> bekks, I dont know what I am doing then
[14:49] <zidsal> finding out now BluesKaj
[14:49] <bekks> nonamae: Yeah, I told you what to do :)
[14:50] <bekks> nonamae: use bs=4k and a count value that will result in a total data about 2x of your RAM.
[14:50] <nonamae> bekks, ok
[14:50] <bekks> nonamae: That will give you comparable results actually.
[14:53] <zidsal> BluesKaj I can't seem to see what model it is from doing lshw -C network
[14:55] <BluesKaj> zidsal, try lspci
[14:57] <nitesh_> hi
[14:57] <motaka2> hello, I am trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 but running sudo update-manager -d doesnt show the upgrade button in opening windo
[14:58] <cfhowlett> motaka2, use the command line: sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:59] <motaka2> cfhowlett: wouldnt I get in trouble using that ?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> motaka2, same same as your gui, just not as pretty
[14:59] <nonamae> bekks, 8,2 GB copied (my ram is 4GB) lvm: 660 504 318 495 321 476 317 MB/s against sda: 353 313 290 312 MB/s
[15:00] <motaka2> cfhowlett: what does failed to download repository information means?
[15:00] <cfhowlett> motaka2, could be your mirror is offline
[15:01] <nonamae> bekks, results in lvm are very diverse, but seams to be faster anyway
[15:01] <nitesh_> i have installed 14.04
[15:01] <nitesh_> my wifi connection keeps on breaking
[15:03] <nonamae> bekks, ok reading speed is 1,0 GB/s vs 531 MB/s
[15:03] <nonamae> I am happpy :)
[15:03] <nonamae> thx all
[15:04] <monod> hello! I have 2 hard disks and I'd like to do a dual boot, windows + linux
[15:04] <monod> will I have troubles with mbr and boot up?
[15:04] <monod> will it work?
[15:05] <motaka2> cfhowlett: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7149639b7002227c8671
[15:05] <monod> google is my friend, tho
[15:05] <SchrodingersScat> monod: that should be fine.
[15:05] <monod> with no particular effort? SchrodingersScat
[15:05] <monod> I mean, no special things to do during the setup?
[15:05] <cfhowlett> motaka2, I can't see gist - china firewall blocks it. paste.ubuntu.co works
[15:06] <SchrodingersScat> monod: you'll have to select what you want where if you want linux on one drive and windows on the other.
[15:07] <monod> and what about the MBR being on one drive rather than the other or both?
[15:07] <monod> SchrodingersScat, will grub be correctly configured for this setup?
[15:08] <SchrodingersScat> monod: right, depends on your setup and what you're planning. You can tell it what location to put that on install.
[15:08] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396549/
[15:08] <monod> somebody suggests to use the Quick boot feature from the BIOS at startup, SchrodingersScat, to select which disk to boot from
[15:08] <monod> :D
[15:08] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | motaka2,
[15:10] <monod> seems like update-grub or grub2-mkconfig should work in my case
[15:10] <monod> from what I read on google
[15:10] <monod> I'mma try!
[15:10] <monod> Cya!
[15:10] <motaka2> cfhowlett: is running now thank you
[15:10] <cfhowlett> motaka2, :)
[15:11] <motaka2> cfhowlett: 100% [Waiting for headers]
[15:12] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396605/
[15:13] <cfhowlett> motaka2, yep, you've got a all those exotic packages in your system. disable them for now.
[15:13] <motaka2> cfhowlett: how?
[15:14] <cfhowlett> motaka2, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then go to each of the error lines mentioned and put ## at the beginning of the line. close, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:15] <SlashArash> hi i have a problem
[15:15] <SlashArash> when i try to install samba in ubuntu 15.10 it return an error
[15:15] <SlashArash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396628/
[15:16] <SlashArash> what should i do?
[15:17] <SchrodingersScat> !info samba
[15:19] <MrCeeIII> hello all anyone know of a good software package to convert .wmv to mp4?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, avconv
[15:19] <cfhowlett> it's in the libav-tools package
[15:20] <bindi> why not ffmpeg?
[15:21] <SchrodingersScat> practically the same difference
[15:21] <TJ-> depends which release you're using; we've moved back to ffmpeg
[15:21] <cfhowlett> bindi, has ffmpeg returned to the repos yet? if so, yes. if not, avconv is the (temporary) replacement
[15:22] <MrCeeIII> i cant get audio from my wmv files
[15:22] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, open in audacity, it'll pull the audio
[15:22] <MrCeeIII> is it in the the Ubunto software center? avconv
[15:23] <motaka2> cfhowlett: none of them are there
[15:23] <MrCeeIII> its a video file that has no sound
[15:23] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, libav-tools
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> wouldn't that explain why you can't get audio from them?
[15:23] <MrCeeIII> I tried it in audacity and nothings
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> !info libav-tools
[15:23] <cfhowlett> motaka2, ok, now sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:24] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, what version of ubuntu?
[15:24] <MrCeeIII> 14.04
[15:24] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, sudo apt install libav-tools
[15:25] <motaka2> cfhowlett: still some warnings
[15:25] <BluesKaj> zidsal, sorry my network went down for a few mins
[15:25] <TJ-> !info mediainfo | MrCeeIII this should tell you if there are audio streams in the container
[15:26] <MrCeeIII> i just sudo get-apt installed now what do i do
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: avconv -i inputfile.wmv outputfile.mp4
[15:27] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> may need flags like -strict something something, if it gives a warning
[15:27] <SchrodingersScat> -strict-experimental?
[15:28] <nitish> How can I install kompozer?
[15:29] <nitish> who can I unintall an application completly using perge?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> nitish, sudo apt-get purge applicationname
[15:30] <nitish> cfhowlett: should i use sudo apt-get remove appname before purge?
[15:31] <SlashArash> can someone help me? i get an error when try to install samba! what u to guess? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396628/
[15:31] <cfhowlett> nitish, nope. remove will remove the app, leave the .config . purge should remove all trace of the app and configs
[15:31] <_gryf> hi
[15:32] <SchrodingersScat> SlashArash: and you've updated your sources? sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install samba #?
[15:32] <MrCeeIII> ubottu: SchrodingersScat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396892/
[15:32] <_gryf> Is it possible to configure ubuntu 14.04 to suspend on lid close, but only, when the power cord is not plugged in?
[15:33] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: yep, that's what I mentioned above, so it's avconv -i MOV012.wmv -strict experimental MOV012.mp4
[15:33] <chano> @SlashArash try sudo apt-get update then try to reinstall
[15:34] <cfhowlett> SchrodingersScat, can you direct me to or provide a brief explanation of "strict experimental"? never seen it before.
[15:34] <nitish> how can I install ubuntu in my mac with dual-boot?
[15:35] <SchrodingersScat> cfhowlett: all I know is that aac requires it, so when mp4 container has aac audio.
[15:35] <cfhowlett> !mac | nitish
[15:35] <SlashArash> @chano i updated but nothing changed
[15:35] <SchrodingersScat> cfhowlett: I think ffmpeg has since changed this to '-strict -2'
[15:35] <ioria> SlashArash, apt-cache policy samba ?
[15:35] <cfhowlett> SchrodingersScat, Okay. thanks.
[15:36] <chano> @SlashArash did you now try to do an install?
[15:36] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13396978/
[15:36] <nitish> what is samba?
[15:36] <bittin_> http://i.imgur.com/KiL8VpZ.png WIP
[15:37] <cfhowlett> motaka2, you have to disable those ppas.
[15:37] <motaka2> cfhowlett: they dont exist lemme show you
[15:37] <chano> @SlashArash if that doesn't work try 'sudo apt-get autoremove samba'
[15:37] <cfhowlett> motaka2, do this: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[15:37] <SlashArash> @chano absolutely i did
[15:38] <chano> @SlashArash or try 'sudo apt-get autoremove samba4'
[15:38] <chano> @SlashArash that should clean up what might be there
[15:38] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397003/
[15:39] <SlashArash> i did it to! let me tell you what i didn't do! nothing i tried "autoremove", "-f install", "change source.list", ....
[15:39] <cfhowlett> motaka2, safe to ignore actually. did you do the full-upgrade??
[15:39] <motaka2> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13397018/
[15:40] <motaka2> cfhowlett: what do you mean?
[15:40] <cfhowlett> motaka2, sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:40] <motaka2> cfhowlett: wrong command
[15:41] <cfhowlett> motaka2, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:42] <nitish> I can i search for a word in wordnet?
[15:42] <motaka2> cfhowlett: would that earase all my aps and disk etc?
[15:42] <cfhowlett> motaka2, no. that will do 14.04 >>> 14.04.3
[15:42] <chano> @SlashArash the other recomendation is to exit out of X - then do the same things again sometimes the package manager locks your ability to update
[15:42] <MrCeeIII> well converting file did not fix the issue using vlc and still no sound when attempting to view a *.wmv file :(
[15:43] <motaka2> cfhowlett: now I am using 12.04
[15:43] <minasota> I've created a file with nano (rsync-quick-guide) ls -l shows it's there and all permissions are correct. I'm able to open all the other files in the directory except this one. Is is becuase it's name starts with 'rsync'?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> motaka2, 12.04 >>> 12.04.5
[15:43] <MrCeeIII> i believe so
[15:43] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: that's weird...because avconv recognized the audio for Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: wmav2, 32000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 32 kb/s
[15:44] <MrCeeIII> i was using VLC to review the file
[15:44] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, confirmation: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:44] <zykotick9> minasota: what are the permissions? "ls -l rsync-quick-guide"
[15:44] <MrCeeIII> yeah updates are loaded
[15:45] <MrCeeIII> shall i open with avconv?
[15:45] <MrCeeIII> i would but cant find it
[15:45] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, don't know it isn't working then. vlc should certainly have found it.
[15:46] <minasota> zykotick9: -rw-rw-r-- 1 aeden:aeden
[15:46] <motaka2> cfhowlett: Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[15:46] <motaka2> 'Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140417)'
[15:46] <motaka2> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
[15:46] <MrCeeIII> the video plays with no sound and checked the audio setting a bunch of times
[15:46] <cfhowlett> motaka2, disable the cdroms in your sources list.
[15:46] <nitish> can anyone give me the link of donate for the irc?
[15:46] <zykotick9> minasota: so what happens if you "cat rsync-quick-guide"?
[15:47] <minasota> zykotick9: it's strange why it will not open. I tried cat and it doesn't work
[15:48] <SchrodingersScat> !donate | nitish
[15:48] <zykotick9> minasota: "doesn't work"? does it give an error? does "ls -s rsync-quick-guide" show size to the file?
[15:49] <monsune> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:49] <monsune> proxmox-ve-2.6.32 pve-manager
[15:49] <monsune> what exactly happens to my running openvz machines when i allow that?
[15:49] <monsune> will i be able to remove and install again without breaking them or stopping them?
[15:51] <TJ-> monsune: no, if the packages are removed the services are gone
[15:51] <minasota> zykotick9: That's the problem, I can't use any commands on the file. No autocompletion or anything. So, I can't get file size od the file because even if I type it in with hitting tab, it acts like it's not there
[15:51] <MrCeeIII> SchrodingersScat: how do i open avconv
[15:52] <monsune> TJ- that's pretty bad :( i screwed something in there and i need to "reset" all the files in proxmox
[15:52] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, it's a command line tool. avconv -i filename
[15:52] <monsune> TJ- would you happen to know a solution? i just need to overwrite all the files with default ones from proxmox-ve-2.6.32 and pve-manager
[15:52] <MrCeeIII> oh ok,... well can you think of anything else i can try?
[15:52] <zykotick9> minasota: well good luck, i don't have any other suggestions/guesses...
[15:52] <minasota> zykotick9: I guess I could get the file size with *guide
[15:53] <MrCeeIII> the issue is .wmv files playing without any sound
[15:53] <minasota> zykotick9: ok, thanks for your help
[15:54] <MrCeeIII> plays dvds plaws Wow and music fine...
[15:54] <monsune> is it possible to force apt to reinstall a package when it is installed?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> MrCeeIII, mplayer filename.wmv
[15:54] <TJ-> minasota: what does "stat rsync-quick-guide" report?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> monsune, sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[15:54] <TJ-> monsune: "apt-get --reinstall install <package>"
[15:54] <fatalityfayjin> #177
[15:55] <monsune> cfhowlett, TJ- that looks great.. but will it remove first or just overwrite?
[15:55] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: have you confirmed that the soundtrack has something to play? ie. it plays on other devices?
[15:55] <TJ-> monsune: over-write
[15:55] <cfhowlett> monsune, overwrite.
[15:55] <MrCeeIII> let me try it on my windows machine
[15:55] <monsune> cfhowlett, TJ- so possible that could fix my files in proxmox...
[15:56] <TJ-> monsune: config files won't be replaced unless you add options to force that
[15:56] <monsune> there is some crazy mess with libs or whatever, i can't even use pveversion now
[15:56] <cfhowlett> monsune, I know nothing about proxmox ... sorry
[15:56] <monsune> cfhowlett ok but thank you for the hint with reinstallation
[15:56] <monsune> TJ- i was going to ask about that
[15:57] <SchrodingersScat> MrCeeIII: just going off the info I saw, avconv recognized an audio track within the file, presumably after you used -strict experimental it converted whatever was there to aac, unless there were errors.
[15:57] <monsune> TJ- so it shouldn't touch anything like configs and reset my openvz machines?
[15:57] <monsune> i'm still very worried
[16:04] <g105b_> My laptop has a combined (phone style) 3.5mm audio jack, when I plug my microphone in, it thinks it is headphones... is there a way to switch it to microphone mode?
[16:07] <nitish> Is there an official twitter handle of Mark Shuttleworth?
[16:08] <nitish> g105b_: you can use an external jack.
[16:09] <nitish> Is there any other light-weight browser availble except chromium and firefox?
[16:09] <motaka2> cfhowlett: is it upgrading to 14.04?
[16:10] <nitish> How can I disconnect connected wifi network throught terminal?
[16:11] <TJ-> g105b_: you'd need to use a 4-ring barrel plug wired correctly so that the PC can sense there's a microphone attached
[16:11] <TJ-> nitish: "nmcli con down id <NAME>"
[16:12] <nitish> TJ- how to get name of connected wifi?
[16:12] <TJ-> nitish: "nmcli con show" - look under the NAME column
[16:13] <nitish> TJ- its not showing any network name.
[16:13] <nitish> its showing someting else
[16:13] <nitish> its showing Usage: nmcli connection { COMMAND | help } COMMAND := { list | status | up | down | delete }
[16:13] <nitish> list [id <id> | uuid <id>] status [id <id> | uuid <id> | path <path>] up id <id> | uuid <id> [iface <iface>] [ap <BSSID>] [--nowait] [--timeout <timeout>] down id <id> | uuid <id> delete id <id> | uuid <id>
[16:14] <TJ-> nitish: oh, you have an older version. "nmcli con list"
[16:15] <nitish> TJ-: yes now its showing the names of all network.
[16:15] <monsune> TJ- wow i managed to slightly fix it by installing newest libpve-common-perl
[16:16] <cfhowlett> motaka2, again: dist-upgrade DOES NOT upgrade to 14.04.
[16:16] <cfhowlett> motaka2, sudo do-release-upgrade will
[16:16] <monsune> TJ- still get some errors though... how do i know what else libs to upgrade...
[16:18] <nitish> TJ- after enter nmcli con down id <uuid> its showing error: <uuid>
[16:18] <nitish> TJ-: after enter nmcli con down id <uuid> its showing error: unknown connection <uuid>
[16:19] <tachyondecay> I've discovered I'll need to format my HD and reinstall Windows before I dual boot with Ubuntu. I don't have time to do that at the moment, so I'm looking into virtualizing Ubuntu on Windows 10. I'm having trouble finding documentation that isn't about Ubuntu server though.
[16:20] <motaka2> cfedde: what is it doing then?
[16:21] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | motaka2
[16:23] <anglebert> hello everyone. I'm running lubuntu 15.10. I'm trying to change default theme and icons and even default font. I read that I'll I needed to do was create a .themes directory in home folder.
[16:23] <MrCeeIII> still
[16:23] <MrCeeIII> ther
[16:24] <anglebert> But, when I open lxappearance for customize look and feel and go to widget, it only makes a slight change to the windows. Hardly noticeable. This theme I downloaded is gtk-2.0+, so I'm wondering if maybe I'm shouldn't be using gtk-2.0 themes.
[16:28] <TJ-> tachyondecay: sounds strange; why would it neeed a re-format and re-install?
[16:31] <tachyondecay> TJ-: You helped me on Thursday. I'm the one with the buggy firmware and Intel SRT
[16:34] <TJ-> tachyondecay: oh yeah! I'd forgotten :)
[16:34] <game0> guys, I have installed postgresql on my ubuntu
[16:34] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Haha, I'm not surprised. I'm sure you see a lot of people in and out of here.
[16:34] <TJ-> tachyondecay: didn't think disabling the SRT required a reinstall though, from what I had read
[16:34] <game0> and I want to connect to my server
[16:34] <game0> using pgadmin tool
[16:35] <game0> can someone help me
[16:35] <tachyondecay> TJ-: I can't find a way to disable SRT. :-/
[16:35] <game0> I'm using ubuntu server 15.10
[16:35] <TJ-> tachyondecay: typical Windows :D
[16:35] <tachyondecay> So I can switch my SSD from "RAID" mode to "AHCI" in the BIOS
[16:36] <tachyondecay> But that will break Windows. Which I'm fine with doing, just not this weekend. ;) So I want to try virtualizing Ubuntu, temporarily
[16:36] <anglebert> upon further sleuthing, I think I found what I'm looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Theming --> [SOLVED]
[16:36] <TJ-> tachyondecay: if the hypervisor will allow you to attach partitions as devices, you should be able to do it
[16:37] <tachyondecay> Is that built into Windows 10?
[16:37] <tachyondecay> I was going to use VirtualBox
[16:37] <tachyondecay> But I'm having trouble locating a VM image for 15.10
[16:38] <TJ-> tachyondecay: Something like VirtualBox or VMWare
[16:38] <TJ-> tachyondecay: you would install from the standard ISO image file, mounted on the VM Guest as a DVD
[16:41] <tachyondecay> Ah, I see now
[16:41] <tachyondecay> And I think I've found a guide for how to do it
[16:41] <tachyondecay> That was the part I was missing, because I've only ever used premade VM images before.
[16:42] <tachyondecay> OK, let's give this a try!
[16:43] <tachyondecay> Also I can't believe Firefox is using half a gig of RAM.
[16:43] * tachyondecay stares at it.
[16:44] <VanessaNaire> I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 on a Macbook7,1. It keeps hanging when I attempt a reboot. It was doing the same thing on shutdown, but editing the GRUB config with this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=off" fixed that. I still can't seem to figure out how to do essentially the same thing for reboots as well. Any ideas?
[16:46] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Hmm, I've found a very recent forum thread talking about my problem on the exact same machine as me. This post seems to indicate I might be able to restore access to my Windows install without reformatting after I switch to AHCI mode: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2301071&page=4&p=13389664#post13389664 Would you mind just skimming through that to see if there's any gotchas I'm missing?
[16:47] <cdk_> how do i enable overclocking when i cant find the xorg.config in the /ect/x11/ directory?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> there is no X11 dir on the latest ubuntus afaik
[16:49] <cdk_> how do i enable overclocking when i cant find the xorg.config in the /ect/x11/ directory?
[16:49] <harishkrupo> the directory is /etc/X11
[16:50] <OerHeks> xorg.config <> xorg.conf ... this is not generated automaticly, but you can yourself, with the nvidia/ati tool
[16:50] <autoit> hey!i have a dualboot setup. my hdd makes normal sound in windows. but when i boot into ubuntu the sound is much louder. it sounds like normal read/write only but much louder. any help? smart params of hdd are good.
[16:51] <cdk_> yes and within that directory i dont see the xorg.config file
[16:51] <TJ-> tachyondecay: That does look promising, although some comments later say they suffer BSODs
[16:51] <OerHeks> switch to console mode: Alt+Ctrl+F1. kill x server: sudo service lightdm stop # generate new xorg.conf file: sudo X -configure -- this will create xorg.conf.new file in your current dir. rename and move: sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[16:52] <OerHeks> = manually method
[16:52] <OerHeks> but overclocking, good luck.
[16:54] <cdk_> ok but bthen it shows up with an xorg.config and one that is a back up with nvidia org in its name then xserver trys to use both
[16:54] <OerHeks> xorg.config ??
[16:55] <OerHeks> oh boy
[16:56] <cdk_> yes i end up with it and a nvidia orginal xorg backup and it then screws up my resolutoin
[16:56] <earl---> So asking for a friend. During installation, he formated the NTFS windows partition as EXT4 by accident. Can he recover his data or is he screwed
[16:57] <VanessaNaire> Yea that data's pretty much lost.
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> earl--- recover
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> hm
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> !recover | earl---
[16:58] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Thanks for taking a look. I think that's a risk worth taking; worst comes to worst I have to backup the Ubuntu install and then do the total reformat/repartitionin/reinstall Windows. But I might not have to!
[16:58] <VanessaNaire> Any ideas on my rebooting issue?
[16:58] <VanessaNaire> I've read that there's a field for reboot on the old GRUB1 config that might have fixed it. Is there a GRUB2 equivalent?
[16:59] <darkxploit> /etc/default/grub
[17:00] <earl---> Ok. So the data is basically gone. Thanks though guys, figured it was worth asking.
[17:00] <VanessaNaire> That's not a file @darkxploit
[17:00] <earl---> Have a good one
[17:01] <OerHeks> acpi-off means the system does nothing with acpi calls, like shutdown. you must manually press the powerbutton at the end.
[17:03] <rey> alguém br ?
[17:03] <OerHeks> !br
[17:03] <bekks> !pt | rey
[17:03] <VanessaNaire> @OerHeks but it actually turns the Macbook off when I shutdown with acpi=off
[17:03] <bekks> Ah.
[17:04] <OerHeks> you are right, bekks
[17:05] <OerHeks> but that line is not even a sentence in portugese too.
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> it's obrigado, not obrigada, iirc
[17:07] <anabain> Hi, I need some advice/general directions in order to be able to connect from a remote ubuntu PC (or also an android device, if possible) to my home LAN (consisting of 2 ubuntu boxes) through my dd-wrt router (flashed to the latest giga firmware). To achieve connection through the internet I'll be trying freedns.afraid.org . As for the kind of connections, I'd like to ssh to both boxes and I also want to wake-on-lan them remotely. Is that
[17:07] <anabain> possible?
[17:07] <rey> obrigado pessoal
[17:09] <VanessaNaire> @anabain so long as you've configured your ports correctly and that router supports port forwarding.
[17:09] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Is it worth installing "Ubuntu Restricted Extras"? Why? Why not?
[17:09] <gsagie> Hello, i found this package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/etcd , what do i need to do so i could do "apt-get install etcd" and it will work? how can i add this package to my repository
[17:09] <VanessaNaire> Though remember, you'll need to set the second Ubuntu box to a non-default ssh
[17:09] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, if you don't need it, don't.
[17:10] <nbusrone> TJ- : sorry for coming back late which I promise. Going back to the USB3.0 wakeup port , I just need to do type this echo disabled | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/devices/4-1" ?
[17:10] <VanessaNaire> *non-default ssh port
[17:10] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Well, I'm interested in what "Microsoft font" will do. Do you know?
[17:10] <anabain> VanessaNaire, to avoid conflict?
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO i never noticed that i did not have thel installed... which is a good thing... until i suddenly found out and did install them
[17:11] <OerHeks> some applications need them, and some webpages.
[17:11] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: Oh, okay. Do you know what "Microsoft fonts" do?
[17:11] <OerHeks> and documents
[17:11] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Oh.
[17:12] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Well, it can't hurt to install the extras?
[17:12] <VanessaNaire> @anabain Yes.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO ms fonts makes you pay for everything you type
[17:12] <egggs> the restricted extras is a touchy subject, if u want a true free machine don't install it. it installs things that are not free.
[17:12] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, no, can't hurt, it is one of the 1st steps to get all multimedia stuff
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: What do you mean? :(
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> egggs: Well. :P
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Thanks.
[17:13] <Aison> hmm, I disabled lightdm with systemctl disable lightdm.service
[17:13] <Aison> now I can no longer enable it?!?
[17:13] <OerHeks> but if you want to go proffessional, you might not want all the packages due to licenses, this differs per country
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: Wait a minute! You're messing with me, huh? XD
[17:13] <egggs> if you want to play dvds or certain music formats you will have to install it . for me i install it.
[17:13] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: No, I'm just a noob.
[17:14] <Cinnamon> hello ladies and gents, I installed kgpg and changed gnupg permissions as instructed. and then I got this error when starting kgpg: 'GnuPG failed to start. You must fix the GnuPG error first before running KGpg.' how can I fix this?
[17:14] <zidsal> hi I was wondering if someone can help me. When I try to install bcmwl-kernels-source via apt-get to get my wifi working it gets stuck on DKMS: install complete. Has antone else seen this before?
[17:14] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: MonkeyDust: egggs: Why does it say "pulls in support for MP3 playback..."? I can already play those files! :/
[17:15] <OerHeks> only VLC can play them standalone.
[17:15] <OerHeks> else you want those codecs.
[17:15] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: I'm playing them in "Videos" now.
[17:15] <VictoriaXOXO> MATE DE.
[17:16] <fawkes_> Bonjours ou suis-je?
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> !fr | fawkes_
[17:18] <Cinnamon> and since I installed kgpg, terminal runs 'kbuildsycoca4 running' randomly.
[17:18] <Cinnamon> I deinstalled it anyway, but I'd like to revert the changes that I made to gnupg
[17:18] <Cinnamon> how can I do that?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !info kpg
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !info kgpg
[17:19] <linocisco> hi all, I am going to choose free version of CRM, which one is better "SugarCRM vs VtigerCRM"?
[17:19] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What do you people think about "Clementine"? Do you prefer another piece of software? Why?
[17:19] <artisanIndia> anyone ever used ebay api ?
[17:19] <bekks> !poll | VictoriaXOXO
[17:20] <bekks> VictoriaXOXO: Basically, the choice of software is based on personal preferences.
[17:20] <VictoriaXOXO> bekks: Well, I need help figuring out what my personal preferences are. ;o)
[17:21] <bekks> VictoriaXOXO: Thats something we cant decide :)
[17:21] <VictoriaXOXO> bekks: I was hoping you could. :o|
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO making your own decisions is part of growing up
[17:22] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: I know (I hate growing up...).
[17:23] <egggs> for audio i use .ogg format for mp3 and audiaciuos in winamp mode
[17:24] <Molar_Mass> Hi, I have a friend using Ubuntu who put off an update for a while and ended up doing a partial upgrade. Now, when they reboot they can't log in unless they enter the terminal, and then trying to startx leads to an error about not being to insert module 'nvidia-352'. Has anyone heard of something like this happening before?
[17:24] <VictoriaXOXO> Last off-topic rambling -- YAWN! "Stable release 1.2.3 (March 8, 2014; 20 months ago)" 20 months!!
[17:24] <VanessaNaire> Is there a way to show a address bar in files?
[17:26] <momomo> i am trying to install vlc from sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/stable-daily
[17:26] <momomo> i added it .. but it appears as if I am still getting the vlc from ubuntu reposiotry
[17:26] <momomo> how can I install vlc from tasht repoistory ?
[17:27] <egggs> did u update list 1st?
[17:27] <momomo> yes
[17:27] <BluesKaj> momomo, the VLC from the repos should suffice
[17:27] <egggs> and accept new ppa by the default enter?
[17:28] <VanessaNaire> @Molar_Mass try running "sudo apt-get install -f" from the terminal. This should fix broken packages, then try doing the update again from the terminal using "sudo apt-get install upgrade"
[17:28] <momomo> BluesKaj, not for me
[17:28] <BluesKaj> momomo, and why not ?
[17:29] <momomo> this is really not relevant, but if you must know .. a certain plugin only works in > 2.2
[17:29] <momomo> vlsub
[17:29] <data`> hey, I know it's EOLed, but is there a utopic mirror somewhere still alive? I need to install a single packet for an old benchmarking system, and would like to avoid upgrading now as this would invalidate most of the results
[17:29] <BluesKaj> which plugin?
[17:29] <momomo> vlsub
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> i use ddg to look for subtitles, works too
[17:31] <Molar_Mass> @VanessaNaire Thanks, but when I ran those it turned out there was nothing to upgrade...
[17:31] <momomo> ddg ?
[17:31] <Molar_Mass> I still have the problem though, what should I do to figure out what's wrong?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> ddg = duckduckgo
[17:32] <momomo> yes, but I was hoping i wouldn't have to go through that process ... that's becoming really annoying and frustrating
[17:33] <momomo> download movie, search for subtitles .. downlaod , open folder, unzip, show exracted folder, drag to vlc
[17:33] <momomo> and if you are lucky to get the right sub
[17:33] <BluesKaj> momomo, which ubuntu are you running ?
[17:33] <momomo> 14
[17:33] <egggs> did verify the ppa is in your source list
[17:33] <momomo> seriosly, it shouldn't be this fucking complicated
[17:33] <momomo> i hate that I ever put my life on fucking ubuntu
[17:33] <momomo> everything is buggy and shit
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> momomo avoid profane qords
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> words*
[17:35] <[0xBEAKER]> Does anyone have any suggestions to troubleshoot a system that randomly locks up (completely - stops responding to pings, ssh, keyboard inputs, everything) daily? There's nothing in the logs (I suspect because it freezes before it can log anything) and I've run Memtest which was fine
[17:36] <VanessaNaire> Is there a way to mount an OSX partition in Ubuntu, or do the reverse, mount a ext4 partition in OSX? I want to store files in a location accessible by both operating systems.
[17:37] <VanessaNaire> Nevermind, I think I'm just going to resize my OS X partition and add a FAT32 partition to store my shared files in.
[17:37] <Molar_Mass> @VannessaNaire I have actually dual booted ubuntu and mac once, and you have to set up a separate Data partition (I'll go check, but I think it has to be NTFS). Mac can't read ext4 I think
[17:37] <VictoriaXOXO> [0xBEAKER]: How many passes of memtest?
[17:38] <[0xBEAKER]> Just finished it's first pass, but I'm letting it run
[17:38] <[0xBEAKER]> How many would be considered good?
[17:38] <VictoriaXOXO> [0xBEAKER]: When I do it, I start it before going to bed and let it run all night. Don't know exactly how many passes that would be.
[17:39] <VictoriaXOXO> But that's just me and just to be sure. :P
[17:39] <[0xBEAKER]> Makes sense, I'll let it run a few more
[17:40] <VictoriaXOXO> [0xBEAKER]: Weird how you sometimes WISH there would be some errors in there. Much easier to replace RAM than to troubleshoot something extremely hard issue. :(
[17:40] <VictoriaXOXO> some*
[17:40] <Cinnamon> hello there! I get this error: 'gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file'.. did this come because I ran the gpg with sudo?
[17:42] <Kash> /msg NickServ identify alskadash==
[17:42] <DJones> kaseoga_: Time for a new password
[17:42] <Guest19215> yeah :/
[17:43] <kaseoga_> DJones: not me haha
[17:43] <DJones> kaseoga_: Yeah, quick nick change
[17:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, back for a bit...
[17:44] <Molar_Mass> @VannessaNaire Turns out I actually just gave up and only used the ubuntu partition on the macbook (e.g no data partition as I suggested). Still a pain since updating Mac OSX automatically hides ubuntu...
[17:45] <Molar_Mass> I still have the question about the broken update with the problem with xorg conf
[17:45] <moonpunter> Does anyone know: after you get the quickly-ubuntu-templates package installed, where is the default ubuntu-project template located, what are the file extensions to look for, or how to verify I have the package installed properly. I'm trying to use quickly because it SOUNDS like it will be easier than going through all the steps manually, but i'm this close to just going the other way...
[17:45] <allizom> Molar_Mass: she left a while ago
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> !info quickly-ubuntu-templates
[17:47] <nitish> How can I install kompozer?
[17:47] <the_count> Bashing-om: WHat do you think.. What kind of side effects would purging and reinstalling unity reap... Not sure if it could reset some of the side effects..... Or, maybe not. We still need to install the vivid xorg package, I think. Or maybe we already did that
[17:47] <Molar_Mass> I have to leave, I'll ask about this later today
[17:47] <al2o3-cr> nitish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallKompozer
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> moonpunter are you working with 12.04 precise?
[17:48] <sg> hi
[17:49] <sg> how can I remove the title bar in Opera?
[17:49] <allvariables> HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.2.0-18-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "wily" 15.10 ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 15.6GiB, 91.0% free ** Disk: Total: 2.0TiB, 29.0% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland XT [Radeon HD 8670 / R7 250/350] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82579V
[17:49] <allvariables> Gigabit Network Connection ** Uptime: 21h 14m 26s **
[17:49] <keepguessing> My bootup is fast but post login is slow.
[17:49] <keepguessing> how do I debug why its slow?
[17:49] <keepguessing> I am running wily
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> keepguessing here are a few tips http://paste.ubuntu.com/13400360/
[17:51] <Guest68934> How can I remove the title bar from Opera?
[17:51] <nitish> its looks like too complicated to install kompozer. Is there any alternative of kompozer?
[17:52] <bekks> nitish: Isnt kompozer dead for years now?
[17:52] <OerHeks> !ide
[17:52] <nitish> bekks: I am searching for an alternative of kompozer.
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> nitish there's BlueGriffon, not in the repos, and partky commercial
[17:52] <OerHeks> libre office
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> partly*
[17:53] <lickalott> hey all I've created a file in /etc/init.d called zpool_start. it contains one line that looks like - zpool import pool0. I've given it execute permissions, but it doesn't seem to auto mount the pool if a restart occurs.
[17:53] <nitish> MonkeyDust: How can I install BlueGriffon?
[17:53] <lickalott> is there a better/more efficient way to accomplish this?
[17:53] <the_count> nitish: Try out Komodo Edit
[17:53] <nitish> the_count: how?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> nitish http://bluegriffon.org/
[17:54] <unicornjedi> hello. does anyone here installed tinycore?
[17:54] <the_count> nitish: http://komodoide.com/komodo-edit/
[17:57] <nitish> is there any application like tux typing?
[17:58] <the_count> OerHeks: At what hours is Bashing-om around?
[17:59] <the_count> nitish: There is somethig called Google
[18:02] <hk_> hello
[18:02] <hk_> 有中国人吗
[18:02] <the_count> hi
[18:02] <VictoriaXOXO> the_count: There is something called spying. ;)
[18:02] <hk_> what
[18:03] <the_count> VictoriaXOXO: In what way am I spying? ... Or are you talking about in some countries?
[18:03] <pauljw> nitish: recommend you install synaptic package manager and use it to search for available packages in the repositories.
[18:03] <VictoriaXOXO> the_count: No, not you. The service you suggested. :P
[18:03] <hk_> 有会说中文的吗
[18:04] <the_count> VictoriaXOXO: In this day, Google is a verb... Really, no one says Bing it, or yahoo it, or
[18:05] <VictoriaXOXO> the_count: "Use a search engine...", but we're off-topic now. :P
[18:05] <hk_> Is there a Chinese? I can't speak English
[18:06] <the_count> nitish: Clarification, use a search engine in which you find yourself obtaining the privacy you deserve
[18:07] <nitish> the_count: :)
[18:07] <Bashing-om> the_count: What is the current status with your disk usage .. continue cleaning up ?
[18:07] <nitish> can anyone tell me that what is the use of synaptic?
[18:07] <qwesd> hey!suppose i have a hdd of 500gb. what would be the difference in position of the first 100gb and the last 100gb? i am asking because my dual boot ubuntu is towards the end of the hdd and i was wondering if it will affect the life of the hdd
[18:08] <allvariables> how duck duck?
[18:08] <allvariables> hows*
[18:08] <VictoriaXOXO> nitish: I see it as a more functional and detailed version of the software center. Not sure if that's correct, though. XD
[18:08] <zidsal> does anyone have the time to help me get wifi working on my laptop? I have a broadcom card so it doesn't work be default. I've tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source, b43-fwcutter, firmware-b43-installer, however none of them are working. I've currently just done a fresh reinstall
[18:08] <mathias__> Hallo
[18:08] <mathias__> ist hier ein Experte_
[18:08] <JaredFTW> is your wifi switch on?
[18:09] <ille> qwesd: pase it where u want
[18:09] <zidsal> JaredFTW yes it is
[18:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Bashing-om: I currently have 7.7 gb free... Shall I remove some files to make it less full... I have a 256gb ssd which shares linux and windows partitions, I have been slowely shrinking the windows partition and growing the linux one over time
[18:09] <ille> qwesd: is not 80 anymore
[18:10] <qwesd> ille: i dont get you
[18:10] <ille> qwesd: is no worre where u paste your things on the disk. is not 1980 anymore
[18:11] <JaredFTW> If you go to the network button, make sure you have Enable Network and Enable Wi-Fi checked
[18:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Let us look and see where the space is being consumed before making any changes ' cd / ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' .
[18:12] <dbeginer> i am trying to run "sudo apt-get upadte"
[18:12] <qwesd> ille: actually my hdd makes quite a lot of noise when booted into ubuntu. when booted in windows its very quiet but in ubuntu i can hear the i/o operations. i dont know why this is happening. its not clicking sound just normal i/o but loud
[18:12] <dbeginer> i am getting this error dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[18:12] <zidsal> JaredFTW I have wifi currently worming by tethering to my phone and ebabled networking is ticked
[18:12] <zidsal> enabled*
[18:12] <nitish> How can i see all packages I've installed(not inbuilt)?
[18:13] <zidsal> the lack of internet is a known issue with broadcome networking cards
[18:13] <g0th> hi
[18:13] <dbeginer> i am trying to run sudo apt-get update. i am getting this error "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." what am i supposed to do ??
[18:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401018/
[18:14] <zidsal> dbeginer what was the last thing you tried to install? it wasn't bcmwl-kernel-source was it?
[18:14] <game0> guys, how to search a word inside file using nano
[18:14] <JaredFTW> I'd recommend sending the card to broadcome for repairs, or buying a new one, you might have to buy a USB wi-fi dongle until either one comes
[18:15] <dbeginer> no i didn't do anything like that
[18:15] <Bashing-om> nitish: Maybe something like ' dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ' Also there is 'debfoster' .
[18:15] <zidsal> JaredFTW the card is not broken. It works fine under windows. This is a driver issue with linux it is well documentated on the internet
[18:15] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n ,
[18:15] <g0th> How do I setup bluetooh audio for ubuntu?
[18:15] <g0th> I tried blueman and it worked at the beginning but now it no longer works (the device is never found)
[18:15] <g0th> any idea why?
[18:15] <nitish> Bashing-om: what is debfoster?
[18:15] <adam444> how can I get rid of the title bar in opera?
[18:15] <dbeginer> zidsal : no i didn't install anything like that
[18:16] <g0th> I'm on Ubuntu 15.10
[18:16] <JaredFTW> zidsal: try uninstalling the broadcome drivers and find better ones on the internet
[18:16] <zidsal> dbeginer nevermind then I recently had an issue like that where the installing of an old package didn't install correctly
[18:16] <MichaelTun> anyone in here using Ubuntu 14.04 that would be willing to test something for me? Would take less than 2 minutes.
[18:17] <qwesd> my hdd makes quite a lot of noise when booted into ubuntu. when booted in windows its very quiet but in ubuntu i can hear the i/o operations. i dont know why this is happening. its not clicking sound just normal i/o but loud
[18:17] <dbeginer> zidsal : how did you get over with it ? will it effect working or something ?
[18:17] <JaredFTW> qwesd: are there several programs starting up on startup, like Skype, Steam, etc?
[18:17] <zidsal> JaredFTW the correct package to install to fix this is bcmwl-kernel-source or b43-fwcutter or firmware-b43-installer depending on what broadcome card you have however none of them work which makes me suspect something like a blacklist
[18:18] <zidsal> dbeginer I'll find you the command I had to run in a second
[18:18] <qwesd> JaredFTW: no additional programs. i can hear any time i open a folder or browser basically read and write ops
[18:18] <zidsal> dbeginer what happens when you run sudo dpkg -C
[18:18] <droid> hola
[18:18] <droid> alguien que pueda ayudarme
[18:19] <Guest80775> soy nuevo con el Xubuntu
[18:19] <JaredFTW> zidsal: try running sudo apt-get repair or update, I honestly have no other ideas
[18:19] <linocisco> hi
[18:19] <MichaelTun> Guest80775: you should join #Ubuntu-es
[18:19] <dbeginer> zidsal : The following packages are in a mess due to serious problems during installation. They must be reinstalled for them (and any packages that depend on them) to function properly: ttf-mscorefonts-installer (no description available) The following packages have been unpacked but not yet configured. They must be configured using dpkg --configure or the configure menu option in dselect for them to work: cabextract
[18:20] <dbeginer> zidsal : it return this
[18:20] <dbeginer> zidsal : The following packages are missing the md5sums control file in the database, they need to be reinstalled: ttf-mscorefonts-installer (no description available)
[18:20] <zidsal> I don't know what those packages do so you'll want to find out before I had a similar problem when my installer meesed up to fix it I had to run sudo dpkg -r <PACKAGE NAME>
[18:20] <JaredFTW> qwesd: there might be something wrong with the sector that you have Ubuntu installed on
[18:21] <dbeginer> zidsal : what to do now ? sorry for irritating i am complete beginer in linux !
[18:21] <pauljw> dbeginer: did you try the solution in the original error? i find that apt-get is pretty good at getting problems figured out.
[18:21] <qwesd> JaredFTW: all smart parameters of the drive are good. i have run scans on the drive and all show 0 bad sectors
[18:22] <qwesd> JaredFTW: reallocation count is also 0
[18:22] <g0th> how do I setup bluetooth audio in ubuntu?
[18:22] <nitish> Is there any racing game available?
[18:22] <g0th> It worked once with blueman (quite ok) but now it doesn't find any devices anymore :(
[18:22] <dbeginer> pauljw : The following packages are only half configured, probably due to problems configuring them the first time. The configuration should be retried using dpkg --configure <package> or the configure menu option in dselect: runit system-wide service supervision
[18:22] <Guest6785> How can I be the president of USA again?
[18:22] <zidsal> dbeginer I don't want to lead you down the wrong path as I am not too sure
[18:23] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : 14.04 LTS what you got?
[18:23] <GNUmad> g0th: maybe this help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio
[18:23] <BarrackObama> How to update ubuntu to newer version?
[18:23] <dbeginer> pauljw : can you guide me how to fix this ? yesterday i had issue with runit and i use force removel command i think i had deleted runit package can you tell how to put it back again ?
[18:23] <the_count> eBashing-om: What do you think?
[18:24] <JaredFTW> qwesd: do you have a really really big amount of files/folders? if so, it might be the file explorer pre-loading them in the background, I honestly have no idea
[18:24] <dbeginer> zidsal : The following packages are only half configured, probably due to problems configuring them the first time. The configuration should be retried using dpkg --configure <package> or the configure menu option in dselect: runit system-wide service supervision
[18:25] <dbeginer> zidsal : can you guide me how to fix this ? yesterday i had issue with runit and i use force removel command i think i had deleted runit package can you tell how to put it back again ?
[18:25] <Bashing-om> nitish: ' apt-cache show debfoster ' will give you better info than I can .
[18:25] <qwesd> JaredFTW: i don't its just 10gb at max. i can seem to figure out whats wrong :(
[18:25] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: great.
[18:25] <zidsal> as I said dbeginer I don't want to lead you down the wrong path as I don't know what those packages do however what I had to do ti fix my similar issue was to remove the package with sudo dpkg -r <package name> anbd then reinstall the package
[18:26] <g0th> GNUmad: I already read that page
[18:26] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4 I need you to run two commands for me and give me the output of the command.
[18:26] <g0th> GNUmad: what I don't understand is why blueman no longer finds my device
[18:26] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun Lets see those commands...
[18:26] <pauljw> dbeginer: you're in over my head. sorry.
[18:27] <dbeginer> coeus@ubuntu:~$ dpkg --configure runit dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege ... i am getting this error trying to configure runit how to do it ?
[18:27] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: apt --help (share via http://paste.ubuntu.com/)
[18:27] <Bashing-om> the_count: You have bunches install .. - the size of /root blows me away . Let's see what cleaning will do for us ' sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; apt-get autoremove ' .
[18:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: What should it be?
[18:28] <OfficeFanBoy> Hello all. i will copy paste my question also here.
[18:28] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: then I want to see if apt will let you install with that command too like "sudo apt install uget" (don't need to install it, just let me know if it says it will or not)
[18:28] <OfficeFanBoy> I have one question about regular expression (regex|regexp). Hmmm... how i can add backspace to replace? search"[:alpha:]$". Because if i use plain "$" it will connect all lines to single line.
[18:28] <pauljw> dbeginer: that means use sudo dpkg --configure runit
[18:28] <OfficeFanBoy> in libreoffice
[18:28] <OfficeFanBoy> i want to only connect lines where is text together
[18:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: I do have a kvm virstual machine which is located in /var/libvirt/somethingorother
[18:28] <dbeginer> pauljw : coeus@ubuntu:~$ dpkg --configure runit dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege.. it shows this error
[18:29] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun :http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401292/
[18:29] <pauljw> dbeginer: you get that when using sudo?
[18:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: Mind you I run real tight .. my /root " 1852 root " !
[18:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: In kb, right?
[18:30] <pauljw> dbeginer: sudo is what gives you superuser privilege
[18:30] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: NICE no need to test install then
[18:30] <dbeginer> pauljw : with sudo i am getting this error ... Setting up runit (2.1.2-3ubuntu1) ... start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused dpkg: error processing package runit (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-5) ... Processing triggers for fontconfig (2.11.1-0ubuntu6) ... Errors were e
[18:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Or what, that is a bit smalle
[18:31] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: Ubuntu 14.04 used to not allow that. I guess you are on the latest point release like 14.04.3 or something
[18:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: That clean up did nothing
[18:31] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: try one more thing for me if you dont mind, "man apt"
[18:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: No, the output ss directed is in megabytes .
[18:33] <flyn4x4> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401362/
[18:33] <g0th> GNUmad: how can I completely reset my blueman settings?
[18:34] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have a 10.7gb kvm image inside /var/lib/libvirt/images, would that do it?
[18:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: All I can advise at this point is to start removing applications that you do not use . We must get that disk space down to something manageable .. As advised at 90% file system becomes fragmented .
[18:34] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : got the man page
[18:35] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'm moving things off now
[18:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: /var is huge .. no doubt at " 11906596var " .
[18:36] <GNUmad> g0th: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure bluez
[18:36] <GNUmad> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[18:36] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : I have this system working pretty good. plex server and 1tb additional hdd
[18:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: we might look at the number of old log files there .. maybe cron is not removing the oldest files ???
[18:38] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : do you have any idea why apps dont appear in the search or (for a lack of a better term) start menu
[18:39] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: does the man page contain the same information that the --help did?
[18:39] <g0th> GNUmad: no I haven't but that's not my problem
[18:39] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: try pressing Super+A instead of just Super (aka Windows key) and then try searching for apps
[18:39] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun: no there is much more info in the man page
[18:40] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: does the man page include the install info though?
[18:41] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401557/
[18:41] <g0th> GNUmad: ok, I got some different behavior but now it says "failed to connect"
[18:41] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun Yes it does
[18:42] <g0th> resp. failed to add device
[18:42] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: great thank you for the assistance. Did the Super+A work?
[18:43] <flyn4x4> michaeltun No it doesnt show any apps
[18:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: How shall we deal with log files, I was disconnected..
[18:44] <zidsal> has anyone managed to get internet working with broadcom's BCM4350 chip?
[18:44] <Guest48268> test
[18:44] <GNUmad> g0th: try this , hcitool dev it shows your bluetooth adapter, then run /etc/init.d/bluetooth force-reload
[18:45] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : Sorry, there is nothing that matches your search.... , using just a single letter or a whole word
[18:45] <g0th> I now managed to add the device again
[18:46] <g0th> but I can't select it from pavucontrol
[18:46] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: what is it that you are trying to find?
[18:47] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: oh you are saying no apps display at all even before searching?
[18:47] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun: Konversation, chrome, disks heck i havent tried all the apps i have but to get konversation to run i had to go to the commandline
[18:47] <the_count> Bahing-om: Ok... I do have Steam installed with a couple games that I never play... i was going to remove them... But I got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401646/ when trying to start the application
[18:48] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun thats right
[18:48] <MichaelTun> Konversation, are you using KDE or just using Konversation in Ubuntu?
[18:48] <g0th> hmm and now it works again, I don't know why
[18:48] <g0th> it seems kind of a random behavior
[18:48] <flyn4x4> konversation in ubuntu
[18:48] <g0th> and now it doesn't work *g*
[18:48] <g0th> great
[18:49] <Bashing-om> the_count: Log files .. take a lok at what is ' ls -al /var/log/ ' should not have files older than "XX.7.gz" .
[18:49] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: first good choice, Konversation is the best. second can you open apps via Alt+F2?
[18:49] <flyn4x4> good to know i have been using ubuntu for years and still learning
[18:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: I assume older than .7 means numbers lessthan 7, there is quite a few... http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401700/
[18:51] <tgm4883> Anyone know of a way to specify a build-depends only for a particular architecture?
[18:51] <GNUmad> g0th: maybe rfkill unblock bluetooth
[18:52] <flyn4x4> yes alt+f2 works
[18:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: Fir stean ' sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa:i386 ; . See what results . Var: .8,9, 10 's ???
[18:53] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: try installing MenuLibre via "sudo apt install menulibre" it will let you edit your system's menu entries. It might also let you see if any of the entries are set to "hide entry".
[18:54] <flyn4x4> so does apt work the same as apt-get just fancy er
[18:54] <Bashing-om> the_count: Log files are large, but in order .. not a lot to be done for the long term . We can dis-regard the log files .
[18:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... As soon as I installed that, it autoremoved a lot of Vivid files...
[18:55] <g0th> GNUmad: I give up, this is already my second bluetooth audio set, somehow it doesn't work properly in linux
[18:55] <anabain> Can you set up a VPN like this: remote ubuntu box -> ddns server -> the internet -> dd-wrt router with ddns client ? I mean, does the ddns service (free or $) restrict that kind of connection in any way?
[18:55] <g0th> hmm it works from my android phone though
[18:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401811/
[18:56] <g0th> GNUmad: basically it randomly fails and I have to try "random" resets/restarts/reload of various applications/services/settings
[18:56] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ouch ! .. steam not happy as is .. tough call here .. remove and (RE-)install steam when we get the system back happy with vivid's stack ???
[18:56] <g0th> once I get it working it doesn't play smoothly after a short time
[18:56] <the_count> Bashing-om; and if I ' sudo apt-get upgrade ' this returns; http://paste.ubuntu.com/13401827/
[18:58] <the_count> Bashing-om: I really don't need Steam at all... But I do use it a couple minutes out of each month.... Just leftovers of my past life.
[19:00] <flyn4x4> MichaelTun : alt+f2 just mimics what i type, If it is a valid application it will run it though.
[19:01] <the_count> Bashing-om: So we may remove it... The thing is.. We had better make sure that it removes every last thing... There is probably 4gb of games installes
[19:01] <g0th> hmm, http://askubuntu.com/questions/252794/cannot-connect-to-bluetooth-speaker-logitech-boombox <- ok with this I get the best results so far
[19:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: A mess for sure .. try'n to think our way through this.
[19:02] <the_count> Bashing-om: Do you think Steam may have caudes the problems in the first place?
[19:03] <the_count> Bashing-om: caused
[19:05] <monsune> is there a way to make apt-get stop using ipv6?
[19:05] <theplane> Hello, after installation I'm taken straight to Busybox instead of Ubuntu. How do I solve this?
[19:06] <theplane> also, I typed "exit" and it managed to boot properly. How do I retain this without entering "exit" every time?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> theplane which ubuntu version?
[19:06] <theplane> MonkeyDust: Apologies, it's Linux Mint.
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> theplane not for this channel
[19:06] <theplane> But I've seen similar issues on Ubuntuforums
[19:07] <theplane> Their channel is terrible for help
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> theplane ask in the Mint channel
[19:07] <theplane> I did
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> theplane you're in the wrong channel here
[19:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: Here is new disk usage: How does it look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402058/ It's about as good as it is going to get
[19:08] <Bashing-om> the_count: Presently I can not tell how long or what efforts it will take to recover . Are you prepared to take the nuclear solution and (RE-)install ? As to steam it is stable in a standard install .. HWE introduces a lot of variables.
[19:08] <monsune> is there a way to make apt-get stop using ipv6?
[19:09] <Guest21906> When I click, the cursor selects the line above, the offset is off. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: Reinstall Ubuntu?
[19:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah re-install the operating system... as the heart of xorg has been ripped out .. Maybe we can piece it back together .
[19:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't see why not try...
[19:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: All for fixing .. let's remove steam from the system, go ahead as the package manager wants and rebuild . As you see the drivers for touchpad are effected .
[19:13] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: sorry, for the lack of reply. I am working on an article about apt and yes apt does a lot of what apt-get does but not everything. I am writing an article to explain what it can and cant do
[19:13] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: did you try MenuLibre?
[19:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: Would removing the libmesa... Whatever it was called help?
[19:13] <flyn4x4> yes i did
[19:14] <flyn4x4> i went to the uget website and it looks cool
[19:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: As I see it... It's going to be better for me to try to stick it out and learn something, the way I see it, I'll at least learn something
[19:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: My focus is on steam/HWE. How did you install steam ? From our repo or other ?
[19:14] <flyn4x4> menulibre let me see the stuff but none are hidden
[19:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Can we purge the steam application from the command line...? I installed it from the Ubuntu Software Center
[19:15] <flyn4x4> and i guess its called the "dash" still doesnt show applications
[19:15] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: thanks, I'm project manager for uGet
[19:15] <Bashing-om> the_count: Concur on the learning curve, I expect I too will learn in this process . You be that ginny pig .
[19:15] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: are the categories enabled in MenuLibre?
[19:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Nothing wrong with that...
[19:16] <MichaelTun> it is possible to hide all apps in a category by disabling the category.
[19:16] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: yes it is called the "Dash" and the panel on the left is the "Launcher"
[19:16] <flyn4x4> no hidden apps or cats
[19:16] <flyn4x4> just not showing any apps
[19:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: And... I believe I have everything backed up, except my RSA keys... I do not want to loose those
[19:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: Good on steam then ... rather than purge .. let's remove as we may want to re0install steam at a later time ... do: ' sudo apt-get remove steam ' , I can anticipate the system screamming and hollering .
[19:17] <flyn4x4> it worked saturday and i havnt installed anything scince
[19:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: Wow... It says that it is not installed
[19:18] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: installing doesn't mean it would happen. It is possible something happened in the System Settings or maybe via Ubuntu Tweak. Have you messed with those at all?
[19:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: Well ! ... ok, let's install it and then remove it . ' sudo apt-get install steam '
[19:20] <flyn4x4> ok Michaeltun thanks , i will try some other stuff and check out the new uget . Thanks for your help..... Havent since it last worked... just installed konversation on saturday then used it (the dash) to start konversation and then today (1 week later) no apps show in dash
[19:22] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, now remove?
[19:26] <MichaelTun> flyn4x4: sorry I can't be of more use. I haven't used Unity in a couple of years so I'm rusty on it.
[19:27] <flyn4x4> its cool i will just play with stuff today... this computer is not my daily driver its just my plex server so no big deal just wierd thank you MichaelTun
[19:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: Maybe for HWE we should have installed it for multiarch
[19:28] <defcon6> hi guys. I just updated to 16.04 and am wondering about the Unity8 DE. Last time I tried to install and run it did not work and froze my computer. Is it usable in version 16.04 or is it still to soon?
[19:28] <tachyondecay> OK, I have a recovery image and system image of my new Windows install. Time to rock and roll….
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> defcon6: #ubuntu+1
[19:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: So...
[19:29] <defcon6> lotuspsychje: ok thanks
[19:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: No idea of how steam should be installed .. did not know there were options . You are on a 64 bit system and --- is steam 32 bit ?? I do not recall .
[19:30] <quechon> hello
[19:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: I guess it doesn't really matter. We were going to comepletely remove it, right?
[19:30] <quechon> im trying to build a scantool software from scrath
[19:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: Looks like Steam is 32bit
[19:30] <quechon> im getting this when runnin make http://pastebin.com/D6ZLyZQh
[19:31] <quechon> i have tried ln -s
[19:31] <quechon> but no luck
[19:31] <osho0000> hi guys i can't get the speed of my laptop with sudo dmidecode | grep -A 15 Memory nor with sudo lshw -short -C memory
[19:31] <osho0000> sorry, the speen of the memory
[19:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: Well " completely" is relative .. if we "remove" it's config files will remain // If we purge then the config files will also be removed .
[19:32] <the_count> Bashing-om: Take a look at this link: http://linuxconfig.org/installation-of-steam-client-on-debian-jessie-8-linux-64bit
[19:32] <the_count> Bashing-om: Right
[19:32] <Bashing-om> the_count: Look'n . be back in a bit .
[19:34] <quechon> any suggestion
[19:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: As we install from repo, I do not see the relevance for a 'debian' install method - in this case .
[19:37] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was pointing you to this as a ' partial ' reference
[19:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: From the requirements point of view
[19:38] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah . is good info to keep in mimd .. I am hopefull our package manager will advise us along our way .
[19:39] <globalist> Hello everybody! I downloaded 15.10 (sha- and md5 sums check out) and I cannot, for the life of me, create a bootable USB device. I tried it with the Startup Disk Creator and the dd-command and even used 3 different USB sticks -- but to no avail. With either method the USB is either not even recognized during bootup or i get a black screen with nothing more than "boot error". I can't find any specific information online so I wanted t
[19:39] <globalist> o ask if any of you had some ideas? :)
[19:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: That would be ideal... So... What do we start out with?
[19:40] <AlexQ> globalist: Have you tried reading an image of the disk (after writing with dd) and verifying the md5 and/or sha1 checksum?
[19:41] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get remove steam' is the start .. if that completes .. ' sudo apt-get 0f install ' . See what Xorg looks like . O do expect to have to re-install some of the HWE components .
[19:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: And another thing about completely reinstalling Ubuntu, I'm still learning the in's and out's of the file structure/os and it's not as straingtforeward for me as is windows as it currently stands
[19:41] <globalist> AlexQ: Actually I didn't (and not once has that been necessary with any Ubuntu flavor for me) but you're right, that's something I have to check out!
[19:41] <Bashing-om> * sudo apt-get -f install **
[19:42] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Is it possible to install (try) another desktop environment WITHOUT also installing duplicates of all software? :/
[19:42] <AlexQ> globalist: When reading an ISO filesystem directly from the pendrive device to file using dd, you will most likely need to specify the exact amount of bytes to copy (exact to the original .iso REAL filesize), otherwise you'll end up reading the whole device I guess.
[19:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: ' sudo apt-get -f install ' http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402910/
[19:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: linux file system is compl;etely different . once you are comforable with the file system you are well on your way to mastering system administration .
[19:43] <al2o3-cr> YWH_1: What you looking for?
[19:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: When I first started, I could not understand the concept of having / as the root directory...
[19:45] <Bashing-om> the_count: I know no better thing than to allow the ystem to break, and then fix it .. Go ahead and ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' // scary thought .. byt we have the tools to rebuild .
[19:45] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: What is scary with apt-get autoremove?
[19:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Why is this? I got two minutes to wait untill my current backup od home is done
[19:46] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402910/ . This system is HWE enabled .. and we rip the heart out of Xorg .
[19:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: Is the heart of xorg not already removed, or does the system think they need removed when they are really nessesary?
[19:49] <the_count> Bashing-om: If you were to give me a one sentence definition of HWE that would give me a basis of understanding, how would you define it?
[19:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: The latter os our case . == required, and we make sure HWE is satisfied after ripping the system apart .
[19:50] <Bashing-om> the_count: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack .
[19:53] <the_count> Bashing-om; okBashing-om: So, basically it replaces the kernel of a system
[19:53] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah and also Xserver ( Xorg amongst all that ) .
[19:57] <custom> how does steam work with ubuntu?
[19:57] <custom> how well
[19:57] <VictoriaXOXO> On a scale from 37 to 175939543? 102483.
[19:57] <tachyondecay> Interesting: live USB recognized my touchpad this boot, even though on previous boot it did not. Hmm.
[19:57] <n1ghtmar3> well enough
[19:58] <VictoriaXOXO> custom: It just... works.
[19:58] <zykotick9> VictoriaXOXO: just choose your metapackge carefully, and yes (kinda). An example, of XFCE - if you install xubuntu-desktop you'll get a lot of duplaction, if you instead install xfce4 you just get XFCE. good luck.
[19:58] <the_count> Bashing-om; ok.. have everything backed up that I want backed up... Proceding to tear apart system
[19:58] <custom> what distro would you suggest trying.
[19:58] <VictoriaXOXO> zykotick9: What about Cinnamon? Any way to just change the VISUAL things?
[19:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; We have the tools, we have the technology; we can rebuild .
[19:59] <zykotick9> VictoriaXOXO: sorry i'm not familiar with cinnamon, so don't know the details.
[19:59] <egggs> steam works great on my system, but its all about the video card and drivers you choose
[19:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: Good
[19:59] <VictoriaXOXO> zykotick9: Darn...
[19:59] <the_count> Bashing-om: Now what shall I do
[20:00] <alethes> I'm unable to use tethering on my Ubuntu 15.10 desktop computer. In case it's relevant, it has the Rampage V Extreme motherboard. I tried both with an iPhone 5S and LG G4, through USB and Wi-Fi. I can establish a network connection, but I can't access the Internet.
[20:00] <alethes> Is this the right place to seek support? I'm willing to pay to get this issue solved.
[20:00] <custom> would you suggest Mint, Black Lab linux, Steam OS, straight Ubuntu? Does it make any difference
[20:01] <VictoriaXOXO> custom: Mint/Ubuntu. :)
[20:01] <the_count> custom: What are you lookinf for in an os?
[20:01] <egggs> what are your pc specs?
[20:01] <custom> something that work well with Steam.. Im familiar with Linux
[20:02] <tachyondecay> Ubuntu works fine with Steam
[20:02] <egggs> whatever the case an easy way to test is live cd or vitural machince it
[20:02] <AlexQ> On clean Xubuntu 15.10 install or Xubuntu 15.10 live I have nice smooth (pixel-precise) scrolling on my touchpad and it works well in Mousepad or Gedit, but I had a problem on my Xubuntu 15.04 (it was smoothly scrolling for some distance and then jumping, as in old-school mouse wheel-like scrolling - as if both scrolling methods were active simultaneously), and unfortunately the problem remains after upgrading to 15.10. Any ideas? I don't
[20:02] <the_count> custom: SteamOS will almost undoubtebly work the best with steam
[20:02] <Bashing-om> the_count: "autoremove" is done ? Let's look : 'dpkg -l linux-generic-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-vivid:i386 '
[20:02] <globalist> custom: Depending on how much you want to experiment with different desktop environments you can try any of these. The Ubuntu base makes them very stable, it's quite a matter of personal taste and to what "desktop behaviour" you're accustomed! :)
[20:03] <custom> ok Thanks guys
[20:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: Returned: ' dpkg-query: no packages found matching libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid ; dpkg-query: no packages found matching libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid:i386 ' and http://paste.ubuntu.com/13403774/
[20:04] <alethes> Tethering works without issues on my Ubuntu 15.04 laptop, Windows, iOS and OS X devices. However, I can't connect to Internet on my Ubuntu 15.10 desktop. What could be the reason?
[20:05] <Bashing-om> the_count: Expected " no packages found" we did remove them .. this is overkill if You are not going to run games - 32 bit apps - . IF there is nop need of the 43 bit libraries we can do with out a bunch of stuff .
[20:06] <ubuntus> hi all
[20:06] <bittin_> hi
[20:06] <AlexQ> alethes: Can you ping your device?
[20:07] <mks656> having prblm clnup boot
[20:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't see why we cannot just remove everything we don't need now... If in the future I ever want to reinstall steam, then we can figure it out. I still have my windows partition to play games on if I really feel the desire
[20:08] <the_count> Bashing-om: I say just get rid of it... I got more productive projects to do anyway
[20:08] <globalist> ubuntus: hi! :)
[20:08] <Bashing-om> the_count: Makes life simpler .. ' sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid ' .
[20:09] <globalist> bittin_: hi! :)
[20:09] <bittin_> hi
[20:09] <grash> join #ubuntu-hu
[20:09] <ubuntus> тут по русски кто то понимает?
[20:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: I thought wayland was bad?
[20:10] <alethes> AlexQ: Thank you for answering. I'm not sure how to check the IP...
[20:10] <Bashing-om> the_count: I too was surprised to see it .. no idea what the developers have in mind here .
[20:10] <AlexQ> alethes: What does command 'route' output?
[20:10] <AlexQ> alethes: After connecting to the hotspot of course.
[20:11] <mks656> no icq
[20:11] <the_count> bashing-om: So... It finished, no hiccups. Do you do any development, or do you do purly system admin work?
[20:12] <alethes> AlexQ: I'm currently connected to my LG G4. The interface is usb0. The 'route' command outputs three lines. The 'destination' values are: default, link-local, 192.168.42.0
[20:12] <AlexQ> alethes: What is the 'gateway' column entry for default?
[20:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: I used to be the senior Network Controller in communications networks . Retired now and I spend my time learning this operating system .
[20:13] <AlexQ> 192.168.42.1 ?
[20:13] <alethes> AlexQ: 192.168.42.129
[20:13] <AlexQ> alethes: Can you try 'ping 192.168.42.129' ?
[20:13] <alethes> AlexQ: It works
[20:14] <AlexQ> alethes: And if you try like 'ping 8.8.8.8' ?
[20:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, what's next on the list?
[20:15] <bindi> how can i check my system disk performance with the included tool? it wants to unmount the disk but i dont think you can do that, its the system disk
[20:16] <alethes> AlexQ: It works as well. However, the browser is unable to resolve any hostname and I can't eg. ssh to a server.
[20:16] <AlexQ> alethes: Than it is just a DNS config issue, most likely.
[20:16] <ubuntu-mate_> hello
[20:17] <globalist> hello, ubuntu-mate_!
[20:17] <AlexQ> alethes: Do 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'
[20:18] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does ANYONE know what this error (at shutdown) means? "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[20:18] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am considering .. gimme a bit more .. if it is safe, and now time to reboot .
[20:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, I'll reboot now... Say, sometime it doesn't boot up, then what happens?
[20:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: How do I know if it is safe to reboot?
[20:20] <alethes> AlexQ: I've been using a landline connection without issues. Tthe router broke yesterday and I'd like to use the mobile network until the replacement arrives. I just tried 'cat /etc/resolv.conf' and it outputs:
[20:20] <alethes> AlexQ: # Generated by Network Manager
[20:20] <alethes> AlexQ: search fritz.box (the name of the router I've been using)
[20:21] <pauljw> the_count: wait, Bashing-om will let you know
[20:21] <alethes> AlexQ: nameserver 192.168.178.1
[20:21] <Bitnova> hi, im having an issue with Bluez sending and recieving files to my phone. If i want to uninstall Bluez and purge so that i can reinstall it, it wants to also uninstall Kodi and i dont want that to happen. any thoughts?
[20:21] <the_count> pauljw: You bet I'll wait
[20:21] <alethes> AlexQ: I can see it has been overwritten now, but I'm not sure how to fix it.
[20:21] <pauljw> :)
[20:23] <the_count> pauljw: Not really in the mood to mess up Ubuntu further when it could have been prevented
[20:24] <alethes> AlexQ: I changed it to 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' and it works fine. Thank you very much for your help!
[20:24] <AlexQ> alethes: Yeah, I was just typing you a more detailed instruction. Bear in mind that it might be permanent, don't know how NetworkManager behaves.
[20:24] <globalist> Bitnova: there is (among other workarounds) this: https://askubuntu.com/a/695903
[20:25] <globalist> Bitnova: You might also want to try "apt-get --reinstall bluez" first :)
[20:25] <AlexQ> alethes: For a more permanent solution, you could try to remove the file, and reconnect, or preferably reboot your system. If that doesn't resolve the issue, just click on the NetworkManager applet that you use to connect to networks, select Edit connections..., edit the connection you are going to use and type the IP address of your phone (the one from destination column of default-route from route) , or e.g. Google's NS you just configu
[20:26] <tachyondecay> I am in the Ubuntu live environment right now trying to install alongside Windows. I need to shrink the NTFS partition, but I can't do this with the Ubuntu installer's partitioner. GParted does not see my SSD
[20:26] <tachyondecay> The SSD was previously mounted and recognized by the live environment, and the Ubuntu installer partioner can see its partitions fine
[20:26] <lotus|xenial> !uefi | tachyondecay
[20:26] <Bitnova> globalist, thank you so much. im going to try that. Yes i will try reinstall first, but i think there might be some wrong installation of config... so i want to purge.. and then reinstall
[20:26] <lotus|xenial> tachyondecay: make your life easy and install ubuntu single :p
[20:27] <the_count> tachyodecay: What windows OS do you have installed?
[20:27] <tachyondecay> Windows 10
[20:27] <AlexQ> Bitnova: globalist: Yeah, purge is a good idea.
[20:27] <tachyondecay> I tried shrinking the partition from there already, but it wants to keep like 120 GB
[20:27] <Bitnova> sounds good
[20:28] <bekks> tachyondecay: Can you take a screenshot of which disks you can see in gparted?
[20:28] <AlexQ> tachyondecay: It is still a bit strange that the installer sees that partition, and GParted doesn't. Are you sure you checked the device select box in top-right corner of the GParted interface?
[20:28] <tachyondecay> I want 40 GB for Windows, 170 GB for a shared data partition, and the rest for Ubuntu
[20:28] <bekks> tachyondecay: Most likely Windows 10 needs more than 40G.
[20:28] <tachyondecay> AlexQ: Yes, the only device it sees is dev/sda (the installer USB)
[20:28] <the_count> tachyodecay: Speaking from experience, I believe Windows 8+ has hibernation set as default, disable that before you resize anything, because it can and will render that partition useless
[20:29] <Bashing-om> the_count: Let's do this prior to rebooting . make sur the package manager is in a hppay state . ' sudo apt ypdate ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt-get install -f ; sudo dpkg -C ' . If all comes back positive , reboot .
[20:29] <NicoHood> I wanted to add a custom (ubuntu) keyboard shortcut whith two commands. both of them work as a single shortcut, but combined with || not. In a terminal the command works correct, seems that the key shortcut doesnt like it. any ideas why? killall hyperiond || /usr/bin/hyperiond /etc/hyperion.config.json > /tmp/hyperionlog
[20:29] <tachyondecay> bekks: OK, but it shouldn't need 120 GB
[20:29] <AlexQ> NicoHood: Because || means or, so the second will execute only if the first fails (returns non-zero value). Use ; or &&
[20:30] <mgolisch> NicoHood: i dont think that kind of stuff works, write a script with that in it and call it from your shortcut
[20:30] <mgolisch> AlexQ: that makes sense, only start thing if kill failed to kill it(its not started=
[20:30] <NicoHood> but && only works if the first was successful. I guess I am missunderstanding something here?
[20:31] <the_count> Bashing-om: it completed succesfully
[20:31] <tachyondecay> Will I be cast into the fiery pits if I _don't_ use a separate data partition and just let Ubuntu merrily write documents and photos to my Windows NTFS partition like I do on my other computer?
[20:31] <bekks> NicoHood: a && b b is executed when a was executed successfully.
[20:31] <tachyondecay> I get that having a separate data partition is good for doing clean installs.
[20:32] <NicoHood> and how can I execute both, no matter which fails and which not?
[20:32] <AlexQ> NicoHood: Just try ; as a separator
[20:32] <AlexQ> mgolisch: Can't see how that would make sense. I think his intention is to restart that process, or start it if not already running.
[20:33] <OnTheRocks> hello
[20:33] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does ANYONE know what this error (at shutdown) means? "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[20:33] <mgolisch> AlexQ: yeah killall will fail if its not running, so || blah would be executed then
[20:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: Shall I now reboot?
[20:33] <OnTheRocks> anybody know about nagios?
[20:33] <mgolisch> OnTheRocks: no
[20:33] <NicoHood> I also have this init.sh script. where do I need to place this with which rights? https://github.com/tvdzwan/hyperion/blob/master/bin/hyperion.init.sh
[20:34] <bekks> OnTheRocks: a lot of people do know about nagios - but how does that help you with a particular problem?
[20:34] <OnTheRocks> i want to install plugin to monitor sftp
[20:34] <AlexQ> Any ideas abut the scroll issue, guys? It is really irritating, but can't find any answers online.
[20:35] <OnTheRocks> i fallowed the steps is this site: http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=307
[20:35] <alethes> AlexQ: When I removed resolv.conf, it stopped working. 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' works great for both wireless and USB tethering. I just rebooted the system and it's all good. Thank you very much.
[20:35] <OnTheRocks> but didnt work
[20:35] <bekks> OnTheRocks: Define "didnt work" please.
[20:36] <OnTheRocks> i am getting an error
[20:36] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah .. go ahead and reboot . Then we see where we are .
[20:36] <bekks> OnTheRocks: And we have to guess it? :)
[20:36] <AlexQ> alethes: Good then, you're welcome.
[20:36] <OnTheRocks> when i run service nagios restart
[20:36] <the_count> bashing-om: Ok, be back in a bit
[20:36] <mothership> to install something it says i need to run 'dpkg --configure -a' but when I run it, it is setting up something and just hangs on that setting task, how can fix this?
[20:36] <AlexQ> Will try to purge the synaptics package and reinstall.
[20:37] <OnTheRocks> http://snag.gy/KaU5r.jpg
[20:37] <Bashing-om> mothership: Show thge channel the errors in a pastebin .
[20:37] <bekks> OnTheRocks: So fix your config then.
[20:38] <OnTheRocks> i added this http://snag.gy/iVkJU.jpg
[20:38] <OnTheRocks> to commands.cfg
[20:39] <mothership> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MCLaE4LC it stuck on this and I cant install any other things
[20:40] <mgolisch> check the what it does
[20:40] <mgolisch> -the
[20:40] <OnTheRocks> i think its fixed now
[20:41] <globalist> mothership: can you run "apt-get -f install" and then try the dpkg-command again?
[20:41] <OnTheRocks> i have a dobt.... http://www.stevengould.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=307, in this link, this instruction command_line $USER1$/check_sftp_avail -H $HOSTADDRESS$, is to change HOSTADDRESS to ip of my server?
[20:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok... Back - i looked at the installed kernels in GRUB, and there is more now... strange. 3.19.0-33-generic, 3.19.0-30-generic, 3.16.0-53-generic, 3.16.0-49-generic, and (3.16.0-30-generic x2)
[20:42] <OnTheRocks> or is to stay that way?
[20:43] <mothership> globalist, that works, thanks
[20:43] <globalist> cool! :)
[20:43] <Bashing-om> the_count: We are alive .. that is the good thing .. as to why new 3.16 kernels would be installed is a mystery to me .. should not happen (??) .// OK, so how are we on disk space now ' df -h ' ?
[20:44] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does ANYONE know what this error (at shutdown) means? "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[20:44] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13406191/
[20:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13406191/ .
[20:45] <mothership> globalist, he is doing the setting again - http://pastebin.com/yGv3geiV even tho this is different installation
[20:46] <user___> hi guys, is it possible to see which version packages currently in 16.04 will shipped?
[20:46] <Bashing-om> the_count: Finally ! We can live with " /dev/sda6 76G 58G 15G 80% / " // OK, now back to the touchpad ... is it now functional ?
[20:46] <lotus|xenial> user___: #ubuntu+1
[20:46] <user___> ok
[20:46] <k1l> user___: see packages.ubuntu.com. but that version switch all day since its still alpha
[20:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: So... How do we know if all other issues are resolved?? And, the touchpad is still wrong
[20:46] <mothership> it installed but at the end he still bugs about that wvdial
[20:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: I know something strange is wrong because some of my shortcuts work, others do not... I fail to understand.
[20:48] <globalist> VictoriaXOXO: I have no idea as to what exactly it means... A wild guess: It's trying to start the Samba service but it's getting overwritten since the system is shutting down... The very last post here offers a "fix" (of which I have again no idea what exactly it's doing) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242868
[20:48] <xela2244> hi, how can i change button-power option to black screen. I'm using Ubuntu GNOME
[20:51] <globalist> mothership: I take it you are trying to install chromium? did you update your sources list before trying to install?
[20:51] <VictoriaXOXO> globalist: Oh, okay. I'll bookmark it. Thanks.
[20:52] <globalist> xela2244: what exactly do you mean by "black screen"? I'm on Ubuntu Gnome as well
[20:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: Driver ?? Let's see if the touchpad is recognized ' cat /proc/bus/input/devices ' .
[20:53] <the_count> Bashing-om; It is there...
[20:53] <globalist> VictoriaXOXO: Sorry I can't be of more help! But if the system is shutting down nonetheless I think it's nothing to worry about :)
[20:53] <xela2244> globalist: I mean that screen turns off. But computer is still working
[20:54] <elichai2> Hey
[20:54] <elichai2> in ubuntu archive whats `all` version means?
[20:54] <elichai2> (I know what `amd64` and `i386` means but what `all` means?)
[20:55] <globalist> xela2244: Oh, i see! Well, I had that issue as well, but some update along the way seems to have fixed that! have you upgraded your system recently?
[20:55] <mcphail> elichai2: usually an app written in an interpreted language, so will run on any architecture (e.g. a bash script)
[20:56] <elichai2> so whats better to install? architecture specific version or `all` version?
[20:56] <xela2244> globalist: yes
[20:56] <mcphail> elichai2: there shouldn't be a choice
[20:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: Do you think we could install a kernel the next level underneath the current one, completeley remove the current + everything, and then try reinstalling it without obstructions? Would it be possible to do something like that? See. Since the origional kernel works better for the touchpad than this one, except for the fact that it jumps around, I wonder if there is some other problem there. Or even go back even farther to something in the midd
[20:56] <elichai2> mcphail, I want to install an old package from vivid repo
[20:56] <elichai2> (I run willy)
[20:57] <the_count> elichai2: The archetecture specific version should be smaller/ more lightweight
[20:57] <elichai2> thanks
[20:58] <mcphail> elichai2: can you give an example?
[20:58] <elichai2> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/boost1.55/
[20:58] <elichai2> libboost1.55
[20:59] <mcphail> elichai2: installing a version of boost from a previous repo is a _very_ bad idea, and the files you want will be architecture specific
[20:59] <elichai2> why so bad?
[20:59] <globalist> xela2244: mh, well it doesn't really solve your issue but have you tried shutting down from the command line? there are two ways that I know of: "sudo shutdown -h now" and also "sudo systemctl -i now" (if i'm correct)
[21:00] <elichai2> I want to run a program that only works with boost1.55
[21:00] <the_count> ' sudo poweroff '
[21:00] <Bashing-om> the_count: It is a worthy thouhgt to install an earlier kernel . Maybe we do that .. I have in mind to re-install the touch pad driver .. then if still a problem generate a log file of what the driver is doing .
[21:00] <mcphail> elichai2: for a start, the c++ abi has changed from vivid to wily, and lots of apps rely on libboost. Good way to break your system. Rememebr to back up everything and be prepared for a full reinstall
[21:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: We could do that, I wouldn't know how though...
[21:00] <mgolisch> elichai2: what program?
[21:01] <elichai2> namecoin
[21:01] <globalist> xela2244: the systemctl command might not take "now" as an argument, so if it doesn't work just leave it out. and yes, like the_count said, there's also "sudo poweroff" :)
[21:02] <elichai2> mgolisch, https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3Ap_conrad%3Acoins&package=namecoin-gui
[21:02] <elichai2> mcphail, have a better idea?
[21:02] <mcphail> elichai2: install vivid and use it there
[21:02] <elichai2> lol
[21:03] <mcphail> elichai2: if you want to go ahead with it, good luck and I hope it works out for you
[21:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: Let's try ' sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ; sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-vivid ' .
[21:04] <mgolisch> hm just download the sourcepackage and build it yourself?
[21:04] <m000gle> Is there any way to prevent Ubuntu from sleeping, and/or turning off the monitor, while the screen is locked?
[21:05] <elichai2> mgolisch, that's a good idea
[21:06] <m000gle> "System Settings > Brightness & Lock > Turn screen off when inactive for..." seems to have no effect on the the maching going to sleep with the screen locked.
[21:07] <globalist> m000gle: I'm on Ubuntu Gnome so I'm not sure how the settings are layed out in vanilla Ubuntu, but shouldn't there also be an option for Suspend and Power-Off?
[21:09] <globalist> m000gle: like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/157629/how-to-prevent-computer-from-automatically-sleeping-and-or-hibernating
[21:09] <m000gle> globalist: All options are already set to either "Do Nothing" or "Don't Suspend"
[21:11] <globalist> m000gle: Maybe the little app "Caffeine" might solve your problem? https://launchpad.net/~caffeine-developers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:11] <Jacruth> Hi guys, is there any way to list all the current directories without showing . and ../ in a for loop?
[21:11] <globalist> m000gle: although their ppa doesn't seem up-to-date so it might not work if you are on 15.10
[21:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was disconnected again... Any message after the command to reinstall the touchpad drivers, I did not se
[21:12] <the_count> Bashing-om: **see
[21:12] <Bashing-om> the_count: Nope .. awaiting that result .
[21:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: Oh...
[21:13] <Bashing-om> the_count: And now that the driver is re-installed, what is the status ?
[21:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13409426/
[21:14] <the_count> Bashing-om: I just realized that you wanted to see it
[21:14] <globalist> m000gle: here's a short video on how it works, i'm using it on a Linux Mint machine as well. You should be able to lock the screen while Caffeine keeps the system up and running once you've toggled it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VKdsH2K1Ts
[21:16] <Bashing-om> the_count: No problems indicated .. does it work ( and is it turned on -> touchpad settings under System Settings > Input Devices > Touchpad ) .
[21:16] <the_count> Bashing-om: It has not changed since I looked at it. So.. No
[21:18] * Dredd :^)
[21:18] * marika :^) :^)
[21:19] <the_count> What is happening?
[21:19] <the_count> Bashing-om; Maybe I should restart to see if changes are applied
[21:20] * the_count <|:^()
[21:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: I do not know .. so let's generate a log file and see what we can learn; follow : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection . You will have to install the tool "evtest" .
[21:21] <Bashing-om> the_count: And yes .. a restart with the changed driver is in order .. agreed .
[21:21] <the_count> Bashing-om: Which shall we do first?
[21:22] <Bashing-om> the_count: Restart and see if the driver now works .
[21:27] <the_count> Bashing-om: Nothing doing
[21:28] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; Then when all else fails ,, read the instructions. In our case generate a log file per : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection .
[21:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: Restarted and still no different
[21:28] <the_count> Bashing-om: I loe your attitude
[21:28] <cagatay> hack this site please x59.noip.me
[21:29] <the_count> Bashing-om: That was love, don't be trying to imageine what t could have been
[21:29] <daftykins> cagatay: no, and take that kind of chat off this network.
[21:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: lol , We are atempting to solve a puzzle ; and in that process learn an operating system .
[21:31] <only1dcb> Hey all, I'm a linux n00b, and I want to do 2 things with my new install: 1. Re-order my GRUB startup list, and 2. Install the correct Nvidia Optimus drivers for my notebook. Is anyone up for a little guided help?
[21:32] <Hitechcg> Look up grub-customizer for the first one
[21:32] <the_count> bashing-om: i'm looking at the section for ' In case Touchpad features like scrolling, tapping, etc. do not work at all. '
[21:33] <Hitechcg> Do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer", "sudo apt-get update", and "sudo apt-get install grub-customizer"
[21:33] <only1dcb> Hitechcg: I did, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43471/how-to-configure-the-linux-grub2-boot-menu-the-easy-way/ , but in following the terminal instructions I have failed to actually install the package.
[21:34] <daftykins> only1dcb: nvidia chip in use? latest nvidia package along with nvidia-prime should be all you need.
[21:34] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yep .. that section is my thought also .
[21:35] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: What do you mean exactly? Did you get an error when trying to install it?
[21:35] <only1dcb> daftykins: I am still using the generic driver ATM. I wanted to change up my GRUB order first. But the package failed to install using the commands listed above, and in the tutorial I looked up.
[21:36] <daftykins> adjusting GRUB order beforehand makes zero sense
[21:36] <daftykins> in fact, what are you even referring to?
[21:36] <daftykins> dualboot and you want Windows above Ubuntu or something?
[21:37] <Bob_> hey im trying to install drivers for my wireless adapter but everytime i install and reboot the device doesnt start
[21:37] <Bob_> is there any fix for this?
[21:37] <Bob_> do i have to manually start the drivers ...
[21:37] <Hitechcg> What device, and which drivers?
[21:37] <Bob_> RTL8192CU usb-n13 wireless adapter
[21:37] <Bob_> the rtll is the chip
[21:38] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: What error do you get?
[21:38] <Bob_> https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
[21:38] <Bob_> using this guys drivers
[21:38] <Bob_> basically i dont see wireless at all
[21:38] <only1dcb> daftykins: Exactly. Hitechcg: Yeah, it looks like it found the repository, downloaded the key, and attempted to install the package, but I can't find it either by GUI, or command line...
[21:39] <Bob_> it works fine until i reboot which is strange :/
[21:39] <only1dcb> Hitechcg: Standby, I'm trying to read through the terminal log to find that needle.
[21:39] <daftykins> only1dcb: wouldn't changing the default make more sense?
[21:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok.. Now what do we take a look at, those commands I enteded form the page, I am not sure as of what they do.
[21:39] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: See if you can hide join/leaves
[21:40] <only1dcb> daftykins: Possibly, like I said, I'm totally green on LINUX. So you're going to have to be real basic w/ me.
[21:40] <daftykins> Bob_: enter the module name you installed into /etc/modules ; it'll be loaded at boot.
[21:40] <Hitechcg> That probably would've been smart for me to do (hide them), too.
[21:40] <Bashing-om> if it went according to plan, should have a file : 'ls -al ~/evtest ' . yeah ?
[21:40] <daftykins> only1dcb: no, you need to explain what you're trying to achieve with the GRUB menu :)
[21:41] <the_count> Bashing-om: Wait... Wait a second... ' cat /proc/bus/input/devices > ~/devices ' did not return the name of the touchpad
[21:41] <only1dcb> daftykins: I want the Win10 parition to be the default OS.
[21:41] <daftykins> only1dcb: alright; so don't follow any of that guide you linked - huge waste of time installing software to do what is already built in.
[21:41] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: What IRC client are you using? Also, I'm really only moderately knowledgeable with Ubuntu. It's been over a year thoo
[21:42] <Bob_> daftykins do you know where i can find the module name
[21:42] <Bob_> also thanks for the help
[21:42] <only1dcb> Hitechcg: webchat.freenode.net
[21:42] <daftykins> Bob_: well what are you doing once it boots; to manually load it?
[21:42] <Bob_> daftykins reinstall drivers
[21:42] <daftykins> Bob_: last step of which being what?
[21:43] <the_count> Bashing-om: Actually... I think we should be looking at this section: ' In case your multitouch features does not work '
[21:43] <Bob_> daftykins modprobe rtl8192cu
[21:44] <Hitechcg> only 1dcb: Go to the menu, then click Settings, then check "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS". It'll make it easier to see stuff.
[21:44] <Yehai> bazhang: still being the cunt?
[21:44] <daftykins> Bob_: so that's the module name, put just that "rtl18192cu" into /etc/modules
[21:44] <daftykins> Bob_: "sudo nano /etc/modules" ; it explains how to edit it in the headers.
[21:44] <daftykins> *header
[21:44] <Bob_> daftykins all right thanks for your help :D ill reboot
[21:45] <Bob_> yeah i put it in already
[21:45] <daftykins> only1dcb: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" -> change the default from 0 to the entry representing Windows, save and exit, run "sudo update-grub" reboot and test. simple
[21:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: And by the way, that file doesn not exist.
[21:46] <yourname1> Hi
[21:46] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: Go to the menu, then click Settings, then check "Hide JOINS/PARTS/QUITS". It'll make it easier to see stuff. (sorry, had a space in the name so I'm not sure if it pinged you)
[21:47] <globalist> yourname1: hi!
[21:48] <Bashing-om> the_count: We need to see why the log file dies not generate . // We have s strong indication this may be a bug in the latter kernelsm but presently we do not know .
[21:48] <Hitechcg> only1dcb: Also, I'd recommend grub-customizer if you actually want to reorder the entries. It's a giant PITA to do manually. Have you tried running "grub-customizer" in terminal?
[21:48] <yourname1> globalist: how are you?
[21:49] <Hitechcg> You can also search for "grub customizer" in the dash. I noticed the article you linked to was for an old pre-Unity Ubuntu version; I think that article may have confused you.
[21:49] <the_count> Bashing-om: I do agree
[21:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: If you think this is a good stopping spot for a couple hours or less, I have some yardwork I need to get done. If we can hold this off until then.
[21:50] <only1dcb> Hitechcg: Yes, it looks like the terminal got the repository, and package, downloaded it but made some sort of error in the install, Ergo the OS doesn't have it installed, but right now I'm trying to go with the easier method of ( daftykins: ) and just changing the default in GRUB.
[21:51] <UnArmed> If anyone is familiar with Tweetdeck in here the windows program, is there a good linux alternative that does the same thing, such as tweet notifications, etc?
[21:51] <Bashing-om> the_count: Oj we can syop .. no big deal .. but check that the tool is installed ' dpkg -l evtest ' .
[21:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: * Oh we can stop .
[21:52] <the_count> Bashing-om: I did install it... It is installed for sure
[21:52] <only1dcb> daftykins: I'm in etc/defult/grub , but I do not see where in this display to find what my other partitions are to boot default into Win10...
[21:53] <EriC^^> only1dcb: type grep -i "menuentry.*Windows" /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:53] <EriC^^> grab the part that says something similar to 'Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/sda1)
[21:54] <EriC^^> only1dcb: then sudo nano /etc/default/grub , and change the GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows ..bla blabla on /dev/sda1"
[21:54] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub and try it out
[21:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: Here is the cat of the Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13415673/
[21:55] * samthewildone yawns
[21:55] <zetheroo> Ubuntu 15.04 here - Network Manager not saving my VPN password
[21:56] <samthewildone> zetheroo, might have to save it manually in the /etc/network/...
[21:56] <AlexQ> Hi again. I have a problem with my touchpad: scrolling works well in clean wily install, but not so well in vivid upgraded to wily. Xorg.0.log from clean wily: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13414714/ Xorg.0.log from vidid to wily: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13415282/ . Identical xorg.conf (nothing about Synaptics touchpad there, only to enable intel tearfree): http://paste.ubuntu.com/13415509/.
[21:56] <AlexQ> So the issue (on vivid to wily) is that in apps that support smooth scrolling (e.g. gedit) it seems that both the smooth scrolling and button emulation (4,5 I guess) is working, resulting in an extremely jittery experience. Also, there is no 'bounce' shade effect when trying to scroll further than possible. Anyone?
[21:56] <zetheroo> samthewildone: ok, but then there is a serious issue as this was working in 14.04 fine
[21:57] <int-main> I have RT3290 adapter. My Wifi says disabled by hardware switch. It used to work perfectly before.
[21:57] <int-main> Same problem as mentioned https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/2nf2ky/wifi_disabled_by_hardware_switch_computer_doesnt/ Its hard blocked
[21:57] <the_count> Bashing-om: There you go, AlexQ has a problem similar to mine
[21:58] <int-main> Any idea how?
[21:58] <zetheroo> seems that Network Manager in general is a bit broken. If I delete a VPN connection it's still in the drop-down selection of VPN connections.
[21:58] <daftykins> int-main: look for a key along the function keys which Fn+that will toggle wifi being on or off; they're not always dedicated sliding buttons
[21:58] <samthewildone> zetheroo, should had check the bug reports first.
[21:59] <int-main> daftykins: that is for airplane mode and doesn't seem to do any good
[21:59] <samthewildone> zetheroo, I've been in your shoes before.
[21:59] <daftykins> int-main: sure there isn't another?
[21:59] <int-main> daftykins: 100% sure
[21:59] <only1dcb> EriC^^: I've entered the correct entry for GRUB_DEFAULT= how do I save this, or exit appropriately?
[21:59] <int-main> I tried everything and then I had to return to Windows temporarily coz I needed Internet access
[22:00] <int-main> Whats weird is Ubuntu 15.04 used to work out of box and Wifi was functional, now it gives the same error.
[22:00] <samthewildone> zetheroo, is it something similar to this > https://askubuntu.com/questions/640009/annoying-popup-wifi-password-in-15-04
[22:00] <daftykins> int-main: sometimes a warm reboot from Windows making use of it will help leave it on; otherwise a power off, removing the mains power + battery then holding the power button for a few seconds before reassembling and booting straight into ubuntu can help
[22:00] <EriC^^> only1dcb: press ctrl+o to save
[22:00] <EriC^^> only1dcb: then ctrl+x to exit
[22:00] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: We are working a similar issue .. you might take a stroll through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection . See if you can determine a bug .
[22:01] <samthewildone> zetheroo, all I know is little annoying problems like that are linked to bugs.
[22:01] <int-main> daftykins: I didn't Dual boot. And I've tried those little tricks.
[22:01] <daftykins> int-main: i have nothing for you then
[22:02] <int-main> Looks like I've to spend rest of my life with Window
[22:02] <int-main> NOOOO!
[22:02] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: But the thing is it was broken in my vivid as well, but it seems to be perfect in cleanly installed or live wily.
[22:03] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: I tried purging xserver-xorg-input-synaptics on that upgraded system, and installing again, but didn't help. It must be connected to the upgrade thing, something must be left from vivid.
[22:03] <zetheroo> samthewildone: no. In the configuration itself where you enter the password and private key - I enter both and click Save ... but the passwords are not actually saved. Furthermore the VPN account seems to not even try to connect - I don't know if its because of the passwords not being saved or Network Manager screwing something else up ...
[22:05] <daftykins> int-main: what machine is it? make + model.
[22:06] <int-main> daftykins: HP Pavilion 15-206tx
[22:06] <zs3451> Hey
[22:06] <daftykins> int-main: is it on the latest BIOS?
[22:06] <tuomas> Hi
[22:06] <zs3451> i'm having issues with 15.10.
[22:06] <zs3451> I've just booted it off a USB
[22:06] <int-main> daftykins: No. I guess I never updated BIOS
[22:06] <only1dcb> EriC^^: Thanks for the help, it worked!.
[22:06] <zs3451> installer isn't getting past preparing to install
[22:07] <zs3451> So, I tried opening gparted, woulden't start up.
[22:07] <zs3451> tried running as root
[22:07] <daftykins> int-main: tried older kernels, since you said 15.04 did work in the past?
[22:07] <zs3451> same problem
[22:07] <EriC^^> only1dcb: great! no problem
[22:07] <int-main> daftykins: The exact same ISO worked a while ago
[22:07] <zs3451> just got an error message: Libparted
[22:07] <int-main> daftykins: Should it have anything to do with BIOS?
[22:07] <zs3451> Input/Output error during read on /dev/sda
[22:08] <only1dcb> daftykins: Okay, now that I have GRUB the way I want it, I'm looking for guidance on installing the proper Nvidia optimus drivers instead of just the generic. This ( http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html )is what I found that looks like a decent tutorial for what I want
[22:08] <bekks> zs3451: When doing what with gparted?
[22:08] <zs3451> Just starting the program
[22:08] <daftykins> int-main: not usually, but assuming you tried my above suggestion correctly... that doesn't leave you with a lot.
[22:08] <zs3451> Ubuntu doesen't seem to be reading my IDE disk drive
[22:08] <sssa> Hello. Ubuntu backup app doesn't include .cache/dconf , .dbus and .gvfs . What's wrong?
[22:08] <int-main> daftykins: I think I should try it. There was a BIOS update but I ignored it.
[22:09] <zs3451> so i cant get past the first or second screen to format my drive in the installer
[22:09] <zs3451> i checked the "Disks" utility
[22:09] <zs3451> it shows my drive up
[22:09] <zs3451> 400 GB
[22:09] <zs3451> but I keep getting Input/Output errors.
[22:09] <zs3451> I know the drive isn't failing
[22:09] <zs3451> it just has a screwed up partition table
[22:09] <zs3451> what should I do?
[22:09] <daftykins> only1dcb: just use the ubuntu drivers GUI tool yes, ensuring it installs nvidia-prime you should be all good.
[22:09] <kubast2> Hey ,I installed ubuntu server onto kvm machine ,but I can't login through tty
[22:10] <bekks> kubast2: Why not?
[22:10] <cobordism> hello everyone.
[22:10] <kubast2> it sdoesn't react to keyboard input
[22:10] <only1dcb> daftykins: Thanks, I'll let you know if I run into problems. :)
[22:10] <daftykins> oh i'm sure you will!
[22:11] <kubast2> While it worked just fine on install iso [15.10 ubuntu server]
[22:11] <zs3451> ;/
[22:11] <zs3451> anyone know what i should do about my drive?
[22:12] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Yeah .. the-count and I have also been over that route .. still with a mal functioning touchpad . We have no solution to this time .
[22:12] <bekks> zs3451: you could wipe the partition table using dd.
[22:12] <zs3451> ahh
[22:12] <zs3451> with /dev/zero?
[22:12] <zs3451> good idea bekks
[22:13] <daftykins> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=5
[22:13] <daftykins> zs3451: ^
[22:13] <cobordism> I'm stuck with a problem. An upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 failed. I could not run the upgrade manager again (error message: "cannot upgrade from 'Vivid' to 'Trusty' using this tool". Yes, you read that right). Then I tried to reboot and now I get stuck in a kernel panic. .............The next thing I did was to make a bootable usb stick for 15.04 and 15.10 and I can boot from them but wifi doesn't work. I also downloaded the correct wifi driver but I can in
[22:13] <cobordism> stall but not load(?) it on the live system so I have no internet and without internet I cannot use the live system to upgrade ubuntu, only to reinstall....
[22:13] <daftykins> probably moot though
[22:13] <kubast2> the keyboard works in grub through
[22:13] <bekks> cobordism: did you update from 14.04 to 14.10 to 15.04?
[22:13] <elisa87> do you know how I can solve this connection refused problem? I am using Ubuntu? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33849107/java-net-connectexception-connection-refused ?
[22:13] <zs3451> daftykins: It did it immediately
[22:13] <zs3451> should I be worried?
[22:14] <daftykins> zs3451: no, you wrote 5MB... why would it take a long time? :)
[22:14] <cobordism> I just used the do-release-upgrade on 14.04 and it set itself to 15.04 and then failed
[22:14] <mcphail> cobordism: you are going to have to reinstall anyway. Your situation is not recoverable
[22:14] <zs3451> hahahaha it worked
[22:14] <zs3451> Thanks guys
[22:14] <daftykins> zs3451: i'm not sure i believe you on the disk's health though, run "sudo apt install smartmontools pastebinit" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit"
[22:14] <bekks> cobordism: Thats impossible, since a direct upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 isnt even supported.
[22:14] <AlexQ> cobordism: I would start from running apt-get autoremove ; apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:15] <zs3451> daftykins: should I do this before installing?
[22:15] <eebb> Hello! Anyone willing to help me with a "missing partition" problem? I had Ubuntu+Win7 dual boot earlier. Then I updated to Win10, and my laptop booted to "grub rescue". Then, I used "Boot Repair Disk", and I am able to boot only to Windows10. My Boot Repair Disk output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13402884/. How can I get back my Ubuntu partition? I assume it is the sda3..
[22:15] <daftykins> zs3451: yes
[22:15] <cobordism> I cannot get into the system now @AlexQ, I can only boot a live system. I can then mount the underlying filesystem and chroot and do that kind of stuff, but I cannot just use apt-get
[22:16] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: So it works well for you on clean wily install/wily live too?
[22:16] <cobordism> bekks: that's what do-release-upgrade does for 14.04 these days.
[22:16] <bekks> cobordism: Impossible.
[22:16] <kubast2> ok nvm ,the keyboard no longer dares to work on this kvm machine
[22:16] <Hitechcg> I recommend gparted. For some reason, gnome-disks seems to be a bit buggy, at least for me.
[22:16] <cobordism> so here is a question then, how do I make wifi work on a live system if I have the deb package with the driver?
[22:16] <zs3451> okay
[22:16] <AlexQ> cobordism: Why don't you just install the system first then?
[22:17] <zs3451> im setting it up now daftykins
[22:17] <daftykins> AlexQ: the commands you advised do not help given the information we were given about cobordism's situation :)
[22:17] <Hitechcg> crap I managed to not realize I was scrolled up :/
[22:17] <zs3451> do you want to see some sort of log file?
[22:17] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Not my problem but that of the_count . Yes on 14.04's utopic stack it works .. not on vivid's stack .
[22:17] <daftykins> AlexQ: please don't suggest things when you haven't read the scenario :)
[22:18] <AlexQ> daftykins: cobordism: I forgot to ask if cobordism tried to run in recovery mode
[22:18] <zs3451> daftykins: I did it
[22:18] <zs3451> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419045/
[22:18] <daftykins> AlexQ: not gonna help a kernel panic really; please just stop
[22:19] <daftykins> zs3451: ok as it says you'll need to change it to "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX -s on | pastebinit"
[22:19] <woodpusherghd> I'm trying to install openVPN on Ubuntu desktop 14.04 and I'm running into the "invalid secrets" error when I try to connect.
[22:19] <cobordism> you can use a live system to do a system upgrade, but only if you have internet. I do not have internet, but I have a package with the correct wifi driver. Is there I way I can install the driver on the running live-system in order to get working internet?
[22:20] <bluhdz> im working with ubuntu-lxc i have the container installed and started, i just dont undertand exposing the containers to bridged adapter and giving them adress..
[22:20] <zs3451> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419273/
[22:20] <daftykins> zs3451: i see that brand of hard disk is one from a refurbishing company, very suspect to begin with
[22:20] <dbugger> Hi fellas. When I run "sudo pm-hibernate" the screen turns black, but the comes back again the desktop. What am I missing?
[22:20] <eebb> .. and to add to what I have written above: I am now on LiveCD, and the "parted print" command finds the partition which had Ubuntu ( 3 95.7GB 320GB 224GB extended) but it cannot find filesystem (its blank).. Please, could someone help me to get my Ubuntu back?
[22:20] <zs3451> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419273/
[22:20] <zs3451> (incase you didn't see the other link)
[22:21] <AlexQ> cobordism: Is it impossible for you to get a wired connection set up temporarily?
[22:21] <kubast2> Ok reinitialized ubuntu server really quick ,I propablly did something to kvm config
[22:21] <cobordism> no.
[22:21] <daftykins> zs3451: anywho give your install a go now, it looks clean - still a refurb though
[22:21] <cobordism> but I figured out a solution using usb...
[22:21] <cobordism> wish me luck.
[22:21] <daftykins> zs3451: oh wait no, i ignored the errors at the bottom
[22:21] <AlexQ> Good luck then
[22:21] <Taora> hello everyone, I was unpacking a tar file, and my cursor froze. then I saw the warning that my disk has 0 space, which was not possible, given the free HDD space. and 'df -h' shows the correct available space,too. so I presume the ram has been used up? but then, why should unpacking tar use up the ram?
[22:22] <zs3451> daftykins: should I be worried about these errors?
[22:22] <AlexQ> Taora: Are you sure that the tar output was on the same drive that you looked at with df -h?
[22:22] <daftykins> zs3451: they do suggest it's not very happy; "dmesg | pastebinit" would be interesting to see
[22:23] <zs3451> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419755/
[22:24] <Taora> or is it a similar case as this one: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/39722/preventing-tar-from-using-too-much-cpu-and-disk-old-laptop-crashes-if-100 ?
[22:24] <AlexQ> Taora: Was the warning an error message from tar, or a system-wide warning from GUI?
[22:24] <zs3451> I should note that on the board i'm using, it is prone to just randomly shutting off
[22:24] <Acerio> Good evening!
[22:24] <zs3451> when i use a SATA drive
[22:24] <zs3451> that's why im using an IDE drive daftykins
[22:24] <bekks> Taora: which directory were you in when running which command?
[22:25] <only1dcb> daftykins: Success!
[22:25] <nicomachus> I installed the ppa for wine1.7, but it's giving me dependencies errors when I try to install. -f install doesn't correct it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13419854/
[22:25] <bluhdz> iptables for ubuntu-lxc i need a good tutorial
[22:27] <woodpusherghd> Anyone experience the "invalid secrets" error whn setting up open VPN in Network manager in ubuntu desktop 14.04?
[22:27] <zs3451> daftykins: the stuff about ext4 is probably when i was going to format but then quit the installer
[22:27] <bekks> woodpusherghd: Sounds like wrong credentials.
[22:28] <zs3451> daftykins: I don't really understand all of the output, to be completely honest.
[22:28] <brack9> Is it possible to have a single iptables rule apply to multiple hosts? I don't see a way to do that in the manpage, but there must be some way
[22:28] <daftykins> zs3451: that's a really odd choice to make after thinking of SATA issues...
[22:28] <woodpusherghd> I double checked my password and certificaye and all seems fine.
[22:28] <zs3451> daftykins: I have 3 separate sata drives that don't work on the board
[22:29] <zs3451> daftykins: i'm then led to believe that it's probably the sata controller..
[22:29] <daftykins> zs3451: i don't think it's necessarily either; probably PSU related - is it old this machine?
[22:29] <daftykins> zs3451: show me an "lspci"
[22:29] <zs3451> daftykins: Machine is about 5 years old
[22:29] <zs3451> daftykins: I think it could be the PSU
[22:29] <zs3451> daftykins: I can't decide if it is or not
[22:30] <zs3451> daftykins: maybe you're more knowledgable and can figure it out
[22:30] <zs3451> lspci
[22:30] <zs3451> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13420594/
[22:30] <daftykins> zs3451: off topic here regardless, i'd normally send folk to ##hardware but be warned , ithink they're quite unfriendly
[22:30] <daftykins> heh ah yes an nvidia chipset, felt like that was coming
[22:31] <daftykins> zs3451: you can try your install, but all those errors in dmesg? that thing is not going to work
[22:31] <zs3451> The drive has run very smoothly
[22:31] <zs3451> on arch
[22:31] <zs3451> until one day, I used the power button
[22:31] <only1dcb> daftykins: The drivers are working well. Before I leave the channel, the driver manager had a check-box for Intel CPU firmware, is it worth using? And finally, do you know of any decent beginners tutorials for exploring the OS, and specifically the GUI? I have a decent one for exploring terminal already...
[22:31] <zs3451> while booting
[22:31] <zs3451> it seemed to mess up GRUB's booting process
[22:31] <daftykins> zs3451: stop pressing enter... you are spamming. i also don't need to hear its' life history
[22:32] <zs3451> Okay.
[22:32] <daftykins> only1dcb: your mouse is all you need to explore the GUI.
[22:32] <eebb> Could someone please interpret the results of "parted print" here http://paste.ubuntu.com/13420750/ . The number 3, which is 'extended' contains my Ubuntu operating system.. How can I boot onto it?
[22:32] <rampantphoto> this is the first time i've ever used IRC
[22:32] <only1dcb> daftykins: lol, nice. But seriously, thoughts on the Intel CPU firmware?
[22:33] <zs3451> daftykins: is it more likely to be a PSU failing or the actual board itself?
[22:33] <daftykins> only1dcb: be happy when things work as they are
[22:33] <daftykins> zs3451: this isn't a hardware channel, so i can't help you further
[22:33] <zs3451> daftykins: Okay. Thanks for the help you have given me :)
[22:33] <daftykins> rampantphoto: odd, swear i've seen your nickname before... ubuntu support in here or "/j #ubuntu-offtopic" to change channel and chat
[22:34] <only1dcb> daftykins: I've been given such advice from linux / unix proficient friends. :p Thanks again for your help, and guidance!
[22:34] <daftykins> zs3451: one thing though, that's clearly an old system so i wouldn't waste any effort on it. i see newer stuff get thrown away all the time
[22:34] <rampantphoto> sweet, ubuntu support is what i'm looking for i posted my question up on superuser but never got an answer
[22:35] <woodpusherghd> Is there a bug in gnome network manager in ubuntu desktop 14.94 causing the "invalid secrets" error in openVPN?
[22:35] <zs3451> daftykins: Thanks for the advice, i'm sorry if I caused any problems by pressing enter too much, it's just a habbit i've developed.
[22:35] <daftykins> undo it, it portrays youth, impatience and is annoying to read :)
[22:36] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: xmodmap and xinput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13421216/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/13421238/
[22:36] <eebb> With which command I can see all the boot options on Ubuntu (LiveCD 11.04) ?
[22:37] <rampantphoto> let me know if this isn't the place or way to ask this but:
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> eebb you mean 14.04?
[22:37] <rampantphoto> I've set up a headless Ubuntu box on my local network. However there seems to be an issue. If, for whatever reason, I have to power down the machine, when I turn it back on, it prompts me for a username / password. I have to physically plug in a keyboard, and type my username > return > password > return and then it continues to boot. I am unable to access the machine remotely via ssh until after I've done this. I'm wondering if
[22:37] <rampantphoto> there's a way to remove this initial login on boot step, or if I can automatically login on boot. Thank you for your help! I've searched all over and can't seem to figure out how do do this.
[22:37] <zs3451> daftykins: well as I said you've been a good help, i'll get to installing my system now and i'll probably come back on the channel later on
[22:37] <inteus> rampantphoto: did you encrypt the whole disk?
[22:37] <zs3451> Goodbye all o/
[22:37] <eebb> MonkeyDust: This is an old CD. 11.04 is what i use.
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> eebb maybe there was a command in 11.04, but we can't tell and it's not supported here
[22:38] <Furai> What's the terminal command to switch to next keyboard layout?
[22:38] <eebb> MonkeyDust: What is the command in 14.01 then?
[22:39] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: On Vivid to Wily it was
[22:39] <hggdh> eebb: probably cat /proc/cmdline will give you it
[22:39] <inteus> rampantphoto: please reply in channel so others might also be able to help
[22:40] <eebb> MonkeyDust: I have lost my Dual-Boot Menu, and now the only option is booting to Win10. I cannot find a way to boot to my Ubuntu anymore..
[22:40] <ahmet> hi
[22:40] <Taora> hello everybody! I was unpacking a tar file, and my cursor froze. I have enough disk space. so was it because the ram was used up? I wonder if I could access my desktop if I restarted the machine. can you help me please?
[22:40] <rampantphoto> inteus: sorry, i'm also new to IRC so i'm not sure how to
[22:40] <inteus> rampantphoto: just like that! :)
[22:40] <inteus> rampantphoto: if your whole disk is encrypted, you have to enter password on boot.
[22:40] <rampantphoto> inteus: sweet, picked it up based on context right as i was typing that
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> eebb scroll down, i'm you'll find what you need here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[22:41] <inteus> rampantphoto: best thing for a headless setup is to encrypt per user, not whole disk
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> i'm sure*
[22:41] <eebb> hggdh Thank you. This is what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/13421976/ .. Did not look very helpful
[22:41] <rampantphoto> inteus: sweet, that's something i haven't looked into. let me do some research on that. unless you have some quick off the cuff advice as to how to find that out / do what you said
[22:41] <eebb> MonkeyDust: Thank you, I will read that
[22:42] <inteus> rampantphoto: yeah, I don't use whole disk encryption, so I'm not sure what to look for.
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> eebb and try to get a supported ubuntu release
[22:43] <rampantphoto> inteus: np, that's what google is for. having a direction to search is super helpful
[22:43] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Are you sure the problem is connected with the synaptics driver, or even X at all? Maybe it is some gtk lib issue or sth? How does e.g. gedit decide which scrolling method to use (which even to receive, or maybe is it that only one of two event types is sent?)?
[22:43] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Can you just disable smooth scrolling?
[22:43] <inteus> rampantphoto: I've run into the issue before, was running automated stuff at boot and it wasn't moving past the encryption password issue.
[22:44] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does ANYONE know what "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]" means when SHUTTING DOWN?
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO careful now with the caps
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO and isnt AD a windows thing?
[22:45] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: This is a Linux box. I've never had Windows on it...
[22:45] <VictoriaXOXO> :/
[22:45] <eebb> MonkeyDust: I have the latest Ubuntu installed.. The LiveCD is just old. But I have also this Boot Repair Disk from sourgeforge (latest version). Not sure if it has latest Ubuntu or whatever Linux.
[22:46] <tachyondecay> Whoo! Got Ubuntu working on my new XPS 15 without nuking the Windows installation. Touchscreen, touchpad is all working out of the box. Amazing.
[22:46] <compdoc> VictoriaXOXO, I think thats just part of the new samba. you probably have an error at boot as well. its not setup or working
[22:46] <eebb> MonkeyDust: Do you know the requirements for a partition to the "bootable"?
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> eebb not sure what you mean
[22:47] <VictoriaXOXO> compdoc: Oh, okay. What would be the easiest way of getting rid of it? Even if it doesn't disturb me THAT much.
[22:47] <huisk_> whats the dirrents between Ubuntu en Ubuntu Kylin?
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> huisk_ kylin is chinese
[22:48] <rampantphoto> inteus: from what i can tell it's not encrypted. something to note, the password to login on boot is not the same as my password for root.
[22:48] <Seveas> huisk_: kylin focuses on the chinese user, so I'm guessing it comes with chinese as default language and has some additional packages specifically aimed at chinese users.
[22:48] <inteus> rampantphoto: is it just asking for a password? or a login name too?
[22:48] <rampantphoto> login name as well
[22:49] <inteus> huh
[22:49] <eebb> MonkeyDust: Well, I mean that is there anything wrong in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13420750/, since the Ubuntu partition is the partition number 3. It does not have file system or any flags.. And the type is extended?
[22:49] <huisk_> ubuntu is that a safe OS? Better then W10? i use now U 15.10 64B
[22:49] <inteus> rampantphoto: that's not an encryption problem then. It won't let you remote into the box without logging in at the box itself?
[22:50] <rampantphoto> inteus: correct
[22:50] <inteus> rampantphoto: maybe its something with your sshd settings...I have limited knowledge about that though.
[22:50] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Away from the key board .. lemme catch up .
[22:50] <VictoriaXOXO> compdoc: Oh, okay. What would be the easiest way of getting rid of it? Even if it doesn't disturb me THAT much.
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> eebb scroll down to <7> http://askubuntu.com/questions/151968/what-does-the-term-extended-partition-mean-is-it-safe-to-use-this-type-of-par
[22:51] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Okay, gonna log events on this OS as well and then boot into clean wily where everything works correctly
[22:52] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: What about the xserver-xorg-input-multitouch package? I don't have that one installed (but on neither OS I think). What is it for?
[22:53] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: Do I really need Samba? :/
[22:53] <baiter> u don't like samba?
[22:54] <VictoriaXOXO> baiter: No opinion. Do I need it? :P
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO shelter, food and water is all we really need ... samba is a protocol to let linux communicate with windows
[22:54] <baiter> i use it create network drive, so you can have a storage device shared in a network
[22:54] <eebb> MonkeyDust: Thank you. Really appreciate it. I will have a look.
[22:54] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: Then I want to remove it. What is the proper way to delete Samba completely?
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> VictoriaXOXO how did you install it?
[22:55] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: foolish.
[22:55] <Avocado_> hi ubuntu people
[22:55] <Avocado_> I just switched over to ubuntu for the first time in my life
[22:55] <Avocado_> Im digging it so far, but have some questions
[22:55] <VictoriaXOXO> MonkeyDust: I never installed it.
[22:55] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Why?!
[22:55] <Na3iL> hey Avocado_ go ahead and ask :)
[22:55] <Avocado_> I made an .sh file and put it in startup applications so that it executes on boot
[22:55] <Avocado_> I wanted my monitor display to set its refresh rate at 144hz
[22:55] <Avocado_> so I put this in the sh file
[22:55] <Avocado_> xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --primary --mode 1920x1080 -r 144
[22:56] <Avocado_> when I reboot, my refresh rate is at 60.0
[22:56] <Avocado_> what do i do wrong?
[22:56] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: If you think it's foolish, then you could help me with getting rid of this error and still keep Samba. "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[22:56] <Seveas> Avocado_: that won't work. That script doesn't know which display to use, and depending one where it's executed from may not even have access to the display.
[22:57] <Avocado_> its executed from home/startup scripts
[22:57] <Avocado_> i made that folder there
[22:58] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: no, you don't use it - an error doesn't matter. you're not even sure what the error means right now.
[22:58] <Seveas> that's entirely not the point. What's executing it? An initscript? Something that runs when you login? Does it run as your user?
[22:58] <Avocado_> an sh file that i run through startup applications
[22:58] <rampantphoto> inteus: do you think it may have something to do with a profile or something as simple as that?
[22:58] <Avocado_> the internet said it would work that way
[22:58] <baiter> he said he used startup application to run it
[22:58] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Are you really going to refuse to help me because YOU don't think a error matter? :/
[22:58] <Avocado_> Ah
[22:59] <Avocado_> I see the script doesnt work
[22:59] <Avocado_> xrandr: cannot find mode 1920x1080
[22:59] <Seveas> Avocado_: what's this 'startup applications'?
[22:59] <Avocado_> its standard in ubuntu
[22:59] <Avocado_> programs that run on bootup
[22:59] <Seveas> no, they don't run on bootup
[22:59] <Seveas> they run when you log in
[22:59] <Seveas> significant difference :)
[22:59] <inteus> rampantphoto: ssh should work right after installation. I've never had to mess with the configuration.
[22:59] <Avocado_> technically right, but you know what I mean
[23:00] <bekks> Avocado_: its still not clear what you did where, exactly. Where did you create which folder?
[23:00] <baiter> Avocado_: 1. did you try setting your default resolution to 1920x1080 in settings? 2. did you test the script without startup applications? 3. does it need permissions to run?
[23:01] <Seveas> try not using --mode but --fb
[23:01] <Seveas> and if that still doesn't work, add --display=:0
[23:01] <Avocado_> 1. yes, 2. no, i see that my script doesnt work 3. yes, but i set chmod +x on it
[23:02] <rampantphoto> inteus: if my setup wasn't such a paint to move, i'd plugin a monitor to see why it's asking me for a login. is there a way after ssh-ing in to go back and read that login prompt?
[23:02] <baiter> Avocado_: first, i'd press command key + search "display"
[23:02] <inteus> you could try looking at /var/log/bootlog
[23:02] <inteus> rampantphoto: you could try looking at /var/log/bootlog
[23:03] <Avocado_> Seveas, xrandr: unrecognized option '--display=:0'
[23:03] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does anyone know how to fix this error? "Starting SMB/CIFS File and Active Directory Server [FAIL]"
[23:03] <Seveas> Avocado_: replace the = witha single space
[23:03] <int-main> daftykins: Just tried with updated BIOS. Same :(
[23:03] <Seveas> xrandr is annoying and doesn't accept the =
[23:03] <inteus> rampantphoto: or /var/log/auth.log
[23:03] <Avocado_> Rate 144.0 Hz not available for this size
[23:03] <Avocado_> Thats weird, my monitor is 144hz
[23:04] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13424150/ - vivid to wily xev, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13424158/ - vivid to wily evtest
[23:04] <egggs> will the video card go that high ? avocado
[23:05] <Avocado_> yes egggs, i use it on windows too
[23:05] <Avocado_> i think i messed up the command
[23:05] <egggs> or more the drivers your are using, i dont know just throwing out stuff
[23:05] <Avocado_> xrandr -s 1920x1080 -r 144
[23:05] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, Ubuntu uses a service initializer called Upstart which start all the services in /etc/init
[23:05] <Na3iL> So just delete the startup script there called samba-ad-dc.conf
[23:06] <Avocado_> weird, i switched to nvidia driver and suddenly i cant put my refresh rate that high
[23:06] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13424150/ .
[23:07] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Easy enough. Thanks a lot! :D
[23:07] <Na3iL> you are welcome :)
[23:07] <rampantphoto> inteus: that definitely tells me something, just not sure what haha. thanks for the help btw
[23:08] <Avocado_> Got it to work!
[23:08] <hduser> hi all
[23:08] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: So both these files were just scrolling up and down with two fingers, didn't want to make them too large with other events. Also, the capabilities list tells the touchpad supports multitouch, obviously. I think it will be interesting to see these files generated on freshly installed willy, where scrolling works well, so rebooting there. Will be back in a sec
[23:08] <Avocado_> xrandr --output DVI-I-2 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 144
[23:08] <rampantphoto> Nov 15 06:25:57 ALFHEIM CRON[21893]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
[23:08] <rampantphoto> Nov 15 06:47:01 ALFHEIM CRON[22445]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[23:08] <Avocado_> this one worked
[23:08] <rampantphoto> inteus: this mean anything to you?
[23:08] <inteus> rampantphoto: can you pastebin it?
[23:08] <Avocado_> but doesnt the output "DVI-I-2" change?
[23:08] <Avocado_> like its dynamic?
[23:09] <rampantphoto> inteus: sure
[23:09] <inteus> rampantphoto: that's just stuff running in the background. That's ok.
[23:10] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: I am on clean wily now.
[23:10] <tobiasz> hello
[23:10] <AlexQ> evening tobiasz
[23:11] <rampantphoto> inteus: msg or board?
[23:11] <eebb> Anyone know how to recover Ubuntu from unallocated File system? (see image http://ibin.co/2NMnJAe4OKDZ)
[23:11] <inteus> rampantphoto: no need, those messages are about root running cron jobs in the background. those are ok
[23:11] <rampantphoto> oh ok
[23:12] <Na3iL> take a look eebb → https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[23:12] <inteus> rampantphoto: I'm baffled as to why you would have to login at the actual console instead of just ssh'ing in
[23:12] <rampantphoto> inteus: well that makes me feel better.
[23:13] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: You seem smart. Do you also know why I get notifications for almost everything (MATE), but not for when VPN disconnects or when my network disconnects?
[23:13] <eebb> Na3iL: Thanks, I will check that
[23:14] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Presently baffeled as to what is not being interpreted from where . Keep in mind there are several bug reports that are pointing the fingers at the proprietary code .
[23:14] <rampantphoto> inteus: i'm seeing a lot of "Fails password for root from ---ip---"
[23:15] <Na3iL> I tried mate for 2 months, not that professional use
[23:15] <Na3iL> but I will search for it VictoriaXOXO
[23:15] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Wooooop! :)
[23:15] <Avocado_> So I was booting up just now and suddenly I got this error message before booting up ubuntu:
[23:15] <inteus> rampantphoto: is that an ssh message in the log file?
[23:15] <Avocado_> dm_parse_tocblock(): Cannot find TOCBLOCK, database may be corrupt
[23:15] <Avocado_> i googled but couldnt find any answer
[23:15] <inteus> rampantphoto: and is that from your IP?
[23:15] <Na3iL> BTW, VictoriaXOXO is it Ubuntu MATE or just a DE?
[23:16] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Well, Ubuntu with MATE over. :P
[23:17] <rampantphoto> it's not from my ip, but when i google the ip it says it's from Korea?
[23:17] <Onepamopa> anyone got problem updating from 15.04 -> 15.10 ?
[23:17] <rampantphoto> inteus: the first result is from the anti hacker alliance haha
[23:17] <Onepamopa> few packages failed to install, after which the updater failed
[23:18] <Na3iL> You are using proxy or a manual config in your browser rampantphoto
[23:18] <BlastRed> Test
[23:18] <Na3iL> Nope Onepamopa what kind of problem you get?
[23:18] <inteus> rampantphoto: do you port forward from your router to your ubuntu? that could leave you open to the world.
[23:18] <AlexQ> Onepamopa: For me it was a disaster, but luckily managed to solve. Maybe start from checking dist-upgrade log?
[23:18] <Onepamopa> Na3iL, I'll pastebin what I can from the log.
[23:18] <rampantphoto> inteus: yes, i think so.
[23:18] <BlastRed> Hello, i've recentely replaced my hard drive with a new one, which has w7 on it and a bunch of my ol' files. i keep getting the error "OS not found", but if i boot up my disk drive and go on linux mint, its mountable and i see all my w7 files... whats wrong with it?
[23:18] <rampantphoto> Na3il: not that i know of
[23:19] <rampantphoto> i'm quite new at this, so i'm probably making more than one mistake
[23:19] <BlastRed> (thanks Bashing-om )
[23:19] <BlastRed> +others
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> rampantphoto type this in a termina (those are backticks, not quotes) whois `curl ifconfig.me`
[23:19] <inteus> rampantphoto: you should use a different external port to point to internal port 22....something like 2222...makes it more secure...non-default.
[23:19] <mrrob0t> hey
[23:20] <BlastRed> Help?
[23:20] <Onepamopa> Na3iL, well, I can't copy from the "Distribution upgrade" window for some reason. Any of this logged anywhere ?
[23:20] <BlastRed> == Cannot send to channel: ##hardware (wtf why?)
[23:20] <BlastRed> i cant say anything in the hardware channel!
[23:20] <Onepamopa> it sits on "sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[23:20] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Well, the only thing I actually want to achieve is for the scrolling to work on my vivid upgraded to wily as it works on my freshly installed wily. There just has to be some different package, or config remaining from vivid there? Really no idea how to look for that? I don't know much about that stuff.
[23:21] <Na3iL> BlastRed, you ask that question in #freenode
[23:21] <BlastRed> Na3iL: #freenode?
[23:21] <rampantphoto> MonkeyDust: ok, did that
[23:21] <Onepamopa> the failed packages: mysql-common libmysqlclient18:amd64 mysql-client-5.6 freeradius-mysql libmysqlclient-dev
[23:21] <Na3iL> and btw, the channel's owner sets the mode of channel -i That means only voices people can talk
[23:21] <BlastRed> Na3iL: oh yeah lol my bad
[23:21] <UbuN2> got to regiter nickss in some channels BlastRed
[23:22] <Onepamopa> AlexQ, how did u manage to salvage the situation ?
[23:22] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, I am sorry but I think it is a bug
[23:22] <BlastRed> UbuN2: how do i reg for ##hardware
[23:22] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Oh, no! :(
[23:23] <inteus> !register | BlastRed
[23:23] <BlastRed> Okay, thanks
[23:23] <UbuN2> ^^
[23:24] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, I will search if anyone declared the bug in LP, meanwhile you can install directly Ubuntu MATE it is more stable as I think..
[23:24] <AlexQ> Onepamopa: Well, the worst thing for seemed to be that I had linux-generic package missing (probably my fault, I think it was removed automatically when removing something else before upgrade...) so I ended up without updated kernel, and the old one seemed to have issues.
[23:24] <AlexQ> Onepamopa: But I would really start from checking update log. It is in a folder in /var/log/ ..., don't remember exactly.
[23:25] <the_count> Bashing-om: back
[23:25] <rampantphoto> inteus: yes, i think so. not sure how to do that off hand, but i'll look it up. thanks
[23:25] <noah> Why does the 14.04 to 15.04 upgrade fail? I have a ASUS M3A78CM Motherboard, a AMD Athlon processor, 4G of RAM and a 250G Harddisk.
[23:25] <mlvmhn> my system hangs when i run qbittorent, but not when it is not running. why is this??
[23:26] <Avocado_> how do i install google chrome on ubuntu?
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> noah how did you upgrade? via 14.10 or a fresh install?
[23:26] <Na3iL> noah, It is not possible to upgrade directly from 14.04 to 15.04. These days a lot of people think that 15.04 is LTS.
[23:26] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: No time for that. :(
[23:26] <Na3iL> You can upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10, then to 15.04. Or just make a fresh install.
[23:27] <inteus> rampantphoto: you will probably keep getting unautorized ssh attempts while port 22 is open to the internet. not a huge problem if you have very secure passwords.
[23:27] <noah> In order to install Google Chrome, you must first use apt-add-repository to add the chrome repo. Then install frome Ubuntu Software Center
[23:27] <noah> I upgraded from 14.04, not clean install.
[23:27] <AlexQ> Avocado_: Or you can just download a package from Google (64 or 32 bit one). That should add Google's repo automatically as well. You might consider Chromium as well, which is in Ubuntu repo.
[23:27] <noah> OK. I'll try that. Thanks.
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> noah so first to 14.10 and then to 15.04?
[23:28] <Avocado_> yeah i just dled it from googles website
[23:28] <Avocado_> how do i know which repo is google's?
[23:28] <Avocado_> to do the add repo thing
[23:28] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, my humble opinion is to try more DE, I tried most of them and I am satisfied now with Awesome wm
[23:29] <AlexQ> Avocado_: I think the easiest way is to just download the .deb file. https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html
[23:29] <Avocado_> yeah ill stick to that
[23:29] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: I don't know how to install them without getting all the software that comes with them.
[23:29] <noah> look it up. I did it, but I do not know the repo name. Search for "add google chrome repo ubuntu"
[23:30] <OerHeks> Avocado_, You need the deb from the google site, it installs the ppa & key
[23:30] <the_count> Bashing-om: So.. If you are around... We could proceed
[23:30] <Na3iL> I can help you with installing them VictoriaXOXO just pick up a good DE that makes you feel comfortable :)
[23:30] <Avocado_> How do i install a deb file through terminal
[23:31] <Avocado_> if i were not to use the package manager
[23:31] * qu
[23:31] <Na3iL> dpkg -i example.deb
[23:31] <Na3iL> Avocado_,
[23:31] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Cinnamon without anything (!) extra would be nice. No additional software, just visual changes, please.
[23:31] <noah> use the 'dpkg' command to install a deb file from terminal
[23:31] <Avocado_> cool
[23:31] <Avocado_> what does the -i do
[23:31] <bprompt> ahemm -i "install" oddly enough
[23:31] <Na3iL> -i means install Avocado_
[23:31] <Avocado_> ahh, i feel dumb now lol
[23:32] <UbuN2> :
[23:32] <Avocado_> what about dpkg, what does that stand for?
[23:32] <noah> -i means install
[23:32] <UbuN2> :D
[23:32] <Avocado_> hard to remember a word like that
[23:32] <OerHeks> Avocado_, odd, you have the packagemanager.. why doyou ask?
[23:32] <Na3iL> Avocado_, just use man dpkg
[23:32] <Na3iL> type*
[23:32] <Avocado_> Just curious I guess
[23:32] <bprompt> Avocado_: ahemm "d"ebian "p"ac"kg"e manager
[23:32] <noah> dpkgg is the backend to apt-get, only it works on downloaded .deb files, not internet repos
[23:33] <Avocado_> ill just remember dpkg as Download PacKaGe
[23:33] <Avocado_> well, not entirely true
[23:33] <Avocado_> de package
[23:33] <vacho> hey guys, I am installing a web server and I just deployed an ubuntu 14.04 image... I remember there are two recommended commands to run that will update everything to latest secury and stable, anyone care to help?
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> vacho there's also #ubuntu-server
[23:33] <noah> dpkg does NOT download anything, it only works locally!
[23:33] <irc_to_new2015> sudo apt-get update?
[23:33] <Na3iL> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade vacho
[23:33] <Avocado_> noah, yeah i just realized that
[23:33] <Avocado_> noah, ignore that comment
[23:34] <the_count> vacho: ' sudo apt-get update ' and ' sudo apt-get upgrade '
[23:34] <irc_to_new2015> join #python
[23:34] <noah> Don't forget 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[23:34] <vacho> will upgrade upgrade it to 15.10?
[23:34] <bprompt> Avocado_: when you use apt-get, or the Software Center to install stuff, what they're really doing is giving you an UI, and asking dpkg to install this or that
[23:34] <Avocado_> bprompt, thanks, makes sense
[23:34] <Avocado_> What irc client do you guys recommend?
[23:35] <qu> my /etc/hosts seems useless now. i set `192.168.1.123 www.abc.com` in `hosts`, but when i `ping www.abc.com`, returns `PING kevin.com.router (120.192.83.162) 56(84) bytes of data.` Why? (lubuntu 15.10)
[23:35] <Avocado_> i want something minimal
[23:35] <OerHeks> vacho, oh boy, so you start a webserver, without basic knowledge?? good start https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[23:35] <bprompt> Avocado_: one that you like and works for you :)
[23:35] <noah> I do not think so, but just to be safe, do not run dist-upgrade
[23:35] <MonkeyDust> Avocado_ irssi and weechat are popular
[23:35] <Na3iL> Avocado_, for me it is irssi
[23:35] <the_count> Avocado_: irssi
[23:35] <bprompt> Avocado_: kvirc, irssi, xchat, many like hexchat, konversation, quassel, pick your poison
[23:36] <Avocado_> Thanks!
[23:36] <noah> I am using irssi as my IRC client
[23:36] <Avocado_> So theres a way to attach a window to left and right part of the screen
[23:36] <Avocado_> but can you split it into 4 windows?
[23:36] <UbuN2> yep
[23:36] <Avocado_> whats the shortkey for that?
[23:36] <the_count> bprompt: I like that.. pick your poison
[23:36] <bprompt> hehe
[23:36] <OerHeks> Avocado_, hold win key and find out
[23:37] <vacho> thx all
[23:37] <Bashing-om> the_count: Reading bug reports in respect to touchpad .. got nowhere else to go at this point .
[23:37] <Avocado_> OEP_, ahh, I was searching for that window, thanks
[23:37] <int-main> Okay, I officially give up. Somebody explain me, if WiFi works with a particular ISO and I use it later why would it not work?
[23:37] <Na3iL> OerHeks, did you said now win key? :/
[23:37] <UbuN2> Avocado_ ==>> http://irssi.org/beginner/
[23:37] <qu> i tried lots of times, any not exists domain names (but a set in /etc/hosts) are return `120.192.83.192` when ping.
[23:38] <noah> Are you using the same ISO on the same computer?
[23:38] <OerHeks> Na3iL, win key super key, microsoft key, whatever
[23:38] <AlexQ> Avocado_: Just drag the window to the corner of the screen :D
[23:38] <the_count> Bashing-om: Say we removed everything after 3.16.0-30, and went from there
[23:38] <Avocado_> if i do the drag, it will just take half of my screen
[23:38] * OerHeks pokes Na3iL
[23:38] <Avocado_> i want to be able to split windows in 4 small pieces
[23:38] <noah> Check the wireless switch, if it is a laptop
[23:38] <Na3iL> hahaha OerHeks I like Mod key :P
[23:38] <Avocado_> cant find the shortcut in the shortcut list
[23:39] <AlexQ> Avocado_: To the corner, not the side. Like upper or bottom 1/4 of the side
[23:39] <noah> int-main: Check the wireless switch, if it is a laptop
[23:39] <linux77537> Hi there
[23:39] <Avocado_> AlexQ, I tried, doesnt work :/
[23:39] <int-main> I don't have a wireless switch on my laptop
[23:39] <Avocado_> Is it available on ubuntu 14?
[23:39] <Acerio> Anyone here a member of Ubuntu Hardened team?
[23:39] <AlexQ> Avocado_: Thought you were talking about Ubuntu Wily. Don't know.
[23:39] <Na3iL> What you mean Avocado_ by wireless switch?
[23:40] <rampantphoto> inteus: guess i should use an ssh key...
[23:40] <Avocado_> Na3iL, You mean int-main?
[23:40] <linux77537> When I run nautilus as root from a live CD it doesnt display my HDD, why?
[23:40] <Na3iL> Yep Acerio I saw your msg in the channel
[23:40] <bprompt> !dev | AlexQ
[23:40] <bprompt> hmm wrong alias =)
[23:40] <noah> int-main: Is it enabled in the GUI? Is the password correct? Is the kernel madule loaded? (For the latter, look into 'dmesg')
[23:41] <int-main> noah: Password? It says Wireless disabled by hardware switch. rfkill says its hard blocked.
[23:41] <linux77537> someone pls help me.
[23:41] <noah> linux77537: Is the device mounted? type 'mount' and look for your device label. That should get you started.
[23:41] <the_count> linux77527: Ask your question then.
[23:41] <linux77537> yep it shows up fine when im not root
[23:42] <AlexQ> bprompt: So what was your aim then?
[23:42] <noah> int-main: Is this a laptop or desktop?
[23:42] <Onepamopa> AlexQ, disaster averted ... :)
[23:42] <linux77537> but when I run nautilus as root it disappears
[23:42] <bprompt> Acerio: try maybe #ubuntu-devel
[23:42] <AlexQ> Onepamopa: Wonderful :)
[23:42] <bprompt> AlexQ: yes, wrong alias and nick, like batting 0 for 2 =)
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> linux77537 what are you trying to do?
[23:42] <int-main> noah: Laptop
[23:42] <noah> linux77537: I don't know...
[23:42] <AlexQ> bprompt: Haha
[23:42] <Acerio> bprompt: -b
[23:42] <linux77537> edit a file on my hdd
[23:43] <noah> int-main: are you sure there is no WiFi switch? Most laptops have them.
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> linux77537 a file in your /home?
[23:43] <the_count> int-main: What laptop do you have?
[23:43] <linux77537> yep
[23:43] <AlexQ> int-main: Some have them as fn key + a F key I believe
[23:43] <int-main> There is a toggle switch with Fn key. It doesn't help noah
[23:43] <int-main> the_count: HP 15-n206tx
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> linux77537 that file isnt owned by root
[23:43] <linux77537> then how do I edit it?
[23:43] <noah> No, I mean an actual switch on the side/front of the laptop.
[23:44] <linux77537> Ive done it before but forgot how to ?
[23:44] <rampantphoto> inteus: so, in trying to set up my ssh key i did a "ps -ef | grep sshd" and i'm not sure what i'm seeing, but could that give any insight to my original issue?
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> linux77537 what type of file is it? edit it with its normal program
[23:44] <linux77537> but I cant boot into my system
[23:44] <bprompt> int-main: many laptops have a WiFi switch or button or slider, either on the front left or right side, or on the sides, by the headphone jack or by the dvd drive bay
[23:44] <linux77537> thats why I booted up a live CD
[23:45] <int-main> bprompt: I am 100% sure mine doesn't have that
[23:45] <bprompt> int-main: usually a push button, or a slider, and it usually has an orange or green signaling light next to it
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> linux77537 start from the beginning, what happened
[23:45] <AlexQ> int-main: Maybe try to hold this key combination for a second or two, I observed that I need to hold my physical switch in position for it to work oddly. Thought that there is a serious problem with the driver or sth, until I realised that holding for a sec helps.
[23:45] <bprompt> int-main: could be a Fn combination as well, turning off wifi
[23:45] <noah> int-main: Try deleting the connection, restarting the computer, and try again. You will need to reenter the password.
[23:46] <the_count> int-main: On the F12 key, is there a wifi signal icon?
[23:46] <int-main> noah: You are not getting me. It doesn't show any connection. It says Wifi disabled by hardware switch. I can't do anything with Wifi its like disabled.
[23:46] <bprompt> hint: "Wifi disabled by hardware switch."
[23:46] <bprompt> hehe
[23:46] <noah> Is the driver loaded properly?
[23:47] <int-main> noah: Kind of like http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screenshot-from-2012-08-16-210336.png
[23:47] <Avocado_> When I do a command like /whois on irssi, nothing shows up, how come?
[23:47] <bprompt> int-main: check closely, maybe even an Fn combination, as aforementioned, the f12 sometimes, may have a light next to it, if it's orange, that means wifi is off
[23:47] <jose27> hello
[23:47] <Na3iL> Just push the button or flip the switch or use the FN-key combo to manually enable your wireless.
[23:47] <int-main> bprompt: It is indeed orange but pressing it doesn't change it color. Doesn't do anything
[23:48] <bprompt> Avocado_: /whois nick or /whois channel or /who channel
[23:48] <AlexQ> int-main: So you're saying that function key combination doesn't work? Really, try holding it for a second or two instead of just pressing quickly.
[23:48] <int-main> bprompt: previosly it used to work with orange light anyway.
[23:48] <Avocado_> bprompt, I do that, it doesnt show up anything
[23:48] <bprompt> int-main: ahhhh, so f12 light is orange, that measn wifi off :), by "hardware switch"
[23:48] <int-main> AlexQ: I have tried all sort of pressing. Quick press, hard press, long press.
[23:48] <Avocado_> where should it show it?
[23:48] <Na3iL> int-main, use your terminal rfkill list all then lsmod
[23:48] <noah> I see ... Most problems are from the kernel/driver, is there any loaded modules (run 'modprobe | grep 'wireless'. It works for me :))
[23:48] <Apteryx> Hi, I'd like to know if my ~/.profile file is supposed to be run by lightdm (at login) ?
[23:48] <the_count> int-main: So, you tried it pressing the fn key with the F* key?
[23:49] <OerHeks> Avocado_, maybe you need to register your nickname to access those tools
[23:49] <bprompt> int-main: got an [fn] key on the keyboard? as in between the [ctrl] and the winkey?
[23:49] <Avocado_> OEP_, i am registered
[23:49] <int-main> bprompt: but as I said, I cannot do anything to change its color and previously the wifi used to work even when light was orange
[23:49] <noah> int-main: Yes
[23:49] <Apteryx> I got a bash script that is mapping buttons on a left hand mouse (using xinput) and it doesn't seem to get run, although the script is called from my ~/.profile file.
[23:49] <Avocado_> OerHeks, weird, i also ahve this with weechat
[23:49] <Avocado_> Does the result show in another window?
[23:49] <int-main> Na3iL: It works when the Wireless is soft blocked. Mine is hard blocked. I've already tried what you are saying, doesn't help
[23:49] <bprompt> int-main: yes, we understand that, BUT, the idea of that light there on that key, is not accidental, but is for a Fn key combination to turn it on or off
[23:50] <Na3iL> Avocado_, check the 1st tab "freenode" you will see the outputs of your commands.
[23:50] <bprompt> int-main: got an [fn] key on the keyboard? as in between the [ctrl] and the winkey?
[23:50] <Avocado_> I dont have that tab, i run irssi from terminal right?
[23:50] <int-main> bprompt: Yes. I tried combo press with Fn key too if you are gonna ask me that
[23:50] <Na3iL> Yep, Avocado_ you will find the main tab
[23:50] <noah> int-main: Try another ISO to figure out if it is the ISO or the laptop. If you cand, try to load the ISO in another computer. Do you have wireless on that one?
[23:50] <Avocado_> Its just one window and its the channel im in
[23:50] <Avocado_> no other tabs :/
[23:51] <Avocado_> I feel like im missing something
[23:51] <int-main> noah: I tried two ISOs. Two different versions.
[23:51] <Na3iL> int-main, weird!! please let me know if you found a solution!
[23:51] <bprompt> Avocado_: then maybe irssi is not for you =), tried hexchat yet? many prefer that one
[23:51] <Avocado_> bprompt, im on hexchat, i just want to make irssi work for me
[23:51] <int-main> I am trapped with Windows and i have no idea how to solve this problem.
[23:51] <Bashing-om> Avocado_: type ' /win 1 ' .. irssi by default sneds messages to thge status (win #1 ) window .
[23:51] <Acerio> bprompt: I use HexChat. Great client!
[23:51] <AlexQ> int-main: But bear in mind that if you press it again before checking, you might have switched on and then back off without realising.
[23:51] <Na3iL> +1 bprompt , try hexchat Avocado_
[23:51] <noah> int-main: Then it must be the computer :(
[23:52] <Acerio> Avocado: What is wrong about HexChat, that makes you want to migrate?
[23:52] <the_count> Avocado_: Sometimes the best way to learn something is to use it
[23:52] <Acerio> the_count: Well said.
[23:52] <noah> Bye, Everyone! Be back in 1 hour ;)
[23:52] <int-main> noah: then why would it work on Windows? Questions keep coming up.
[23:52] <Acerio> See ya noah.
[23:52] <Avocado_> the_count, I am using it atm
[23:52] <MonkeyDust> breaking and fixing things is a good way to learn
[23:52] <Acerio> Avocado_: Have you tried reading the wiki/documentation/tutorial?
[23:52] <Acerio> or messing around
[23:52] <bprompt> int-main: HP Pavilion 15-206tx right?
[23:53] <int-main> bprompt: thats right
[23:53] <Acerio> Avocado_: And what is wrong with HexChat anyways?
[23:53] <Bashing-om> the_count: Returning to launchpad for reading .
[23:53] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: and yes, since you're worried about a single piece of text on shutdown, i won't help :)
[23:53] <the_count> Avocado_: Well, keep using it. Learn it in and out, and by and by you will figure out all it has to offer
[23:53] <bprompt> int-main: hmmm yes, the [fn] key will be between the [ctrl] and winkey, check closely -> [fn], is it there?
[23:53] <Avocado_> the_count, Ok, ill try to figure it out
[23:53] <the_count> Acerio: Thanks
[23:53] <int-main> bprompt: Yes it is.
[23:53] <Avocado_> Is there any program that lets me take screenshots of my window and auto-uploads it?
[23:53] <Avocado_> Which do you guys recommend
[23:53] <Acerio> Avocado_: Greenshot.
[23:54] <Acerio> Avocado_: Not sure if that is for Linux, it should be.
[23:54] <Avocado_> Acerio, their website is down I see.
[23:54] <bprompt> int-main: well, there are two ctrl keys... the left one... ok... so.. .press [fn] and f12, hold [fn] and press f12, and wait, the light will turn green, meaning, wifi on
[23:54] <Na3iL> Avocado_, Shutter is a useful tool
[23:54] <Acerio> Avocado_: Oh yeah, database error. Maybe CNet has a copy, but they probably only have the Windows copy, unless you want to use wine.
[23:54] <the_count> Avocado_ Or, it would probably take just as much time to press the Print Screen button and upload it yourself
[23:55] <Avocado_> Ill try shutter
[23:55] <Acerio> Avocado_: I'm not sure if Greenshot has a Linux version, but I'm 90% sure they do.
[23:55] <int-main> bprompt: I am sorry man. I've tried those things already.
[23:55] <the_count> int-main: Take a picture of the keyboard if you could...
[23:56] <bprompt> int-main: ok, no biggie, meaning you have "media keys" ON in bios... so, press the [f12] by itself then, and wait
[23:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: I appreciate your efforts
[23:56] <int-main> bprompt: Tried that too.
[23:56] <Na3iL> and Avocado_ follow the 1st answer to know how to make Shutter do auto-uploads.. :) https://askubuntu.com/questions/177921/whats-a-screenshot-application-which-will-auto-upload-to-imgur
[23:57] <the_count> int-main: Have you tried holding down [f12] by itself for a while to change?
[23:57] <Avocado_> Na3iL, doesn't uploading to imgur automatically make it public?
[23:57] <Avocado_> Like, people can browse in newly uploaded images and will see it?
[23:57] <bprompt> int-main: well, is not software, from what we can tell, so, the drivers are loaded so far we can tell, it's a hardware issue, and pretty sure is the [fn] switch, since I also have a pavillion
[23:57] <Na3iL> Yep sure Avocado_
[23:57] <Acerio> Avocado_: No, by default it should be unlisted, unless people have the URL.
[23:58] <Acerio> Avocado_: But that can be changed.
[23:58] <int-main> bprompt: I don't understand. Out of the blue it stopped working, I install Windows and Wireless is fine
[23:58] <int-main> I guess I will have to live with Windows for a while
[23:58] <bprompt> int-main: it might take some pressing, then waiting a few a few times, but pretty sure is the [fn]+[f12] combination
[23:58] <Na3iL> You can use it anonymously Avocado_
[23:58] <Acerio> ^
[23:58] <bprompt> int-main: so... booting in windows it works? you didn't mention that before
[23:58] <the_count> int-main: Can you turn on and shut off wifi with the key combination in windows?
[23:59] <int-main> bprompt: I did. I said if it works fine in Windows then it isn't hardware.
[23:59] <freakyy> i wonder ... if i should install ubuntu on my hdd. ... i have an ssd but not enough room for ubuntu on it sadly ;(
[23:59] <int-main> the_count: yes. Absolutely.
[23:59] <Acerio> freakyy: Get a minimal build of Ubuntu.
[23:59] <dersand> I'm not sure where to adresss this question. But i got a lost android device, it's online and somehow has an internet connection. I'm wondering if i can set-up some SSH-server on that device by installing some app from the play store.
[23:59] <the_count> int-main: Exactly how do you do that?
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[02:20] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 双盘安装win7和Ubuntu http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473965 请问各位大侠： 本人最新加了一个固态盘分成两个分区，然后将win7安装在固态盘上，再之后在固态盘的另一个分区安装了Ubuntu14.04，可结果是根本没有Ubuntu的引导界面而一直是win7，使用BSD设置添加
[02:52] <MangHuo> iMadper: 用不掉券好不爽
[02:53] <MangHuo> nnd 两张 200-20 今天过期
[04:33] <yunfan> 买的二合一到了
[04:45] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • 14.04更新和刷新软件源错误 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473967 DeepinScrot-4317.png出现这样的情况怎么办无法下载 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 4/Packages Hash 校验和不符 无法下载 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 4/Packages Hash 校验和不符 无法下载 http://securi
[04:45] <^k^> ─> ty.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists ... 6/Packages Hash 校验和不符 无法下载 <a class="postli
[05:04] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[05:11] <kandu> yunfan: 你在上海用什么宽带的?
[05:11] <kandu> yunfan: 我这电信一到下午就各种丢包，卡
[05:38] <MangHuo> yunfan: 二合一是啥? 洗发护法？
[05:44] <yunfan> kandu: 也是电信 垃圾得要死 tmd
[05:44] <yunfan> kandu: 你也来魔都了 ？
[05:44] <yunfan> MangHuo: asua T100HA
[05:58] <MangHuo> yunfan: 哦，这个啊
[06:07] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • sudo dmidecode -t memory 看不到真实的内存类型? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473968 真实内存类型是DDR3 联想启天M710E,感觉应该不会虚标吧 还是dmidecode的BUG? Code: # dmidecode 2.12 SMBIOS 2.6 present. Handle 0x0008, DMI type 5, 20 bytes Memory Controller Information Error Detecting Method
[06:08] <^k^> ─> : 64-bit ECC Error Correcting Capabilities: None Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave Cu …
[06:57] <thesicus> Hello everyone
[07:37] <knownbad> Hola.
[07:59] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[08:24] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 稀有的品质 : 哈博太太:"大夫,我丈夫的状况使我很担心,他的智力出现了一种怪毛玻有时,我跟他谈了好几个钟头,可是突然发现,他一点儿也没听进去。" 医生:"太太,这不是毛病,您丈夫真幸运,他具有男人最稀有的品质之一。"
[08:55] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • Ubuntu15.10是否支持串口波特率921600 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473969 我在使用putty串口波特率设置为921600时，数据乱码; 是不是ubuntu不支持串口921600？ 我需要怎么做？ zz: iToday7 — 2015-11-21 16:02
[09:36] <kandu> yunfan: 没啊，听说杭州出口从上海走
[09:37] <kandu> yunfan: 我这几天试了试别人的华数感觉蛮好啊，出口跑满
[10:23] <yunfan> kandu: 难说啊 再说了 城市不一样 配额都不同了
[10:23] <yunfan> kandu: 有人说如果移动刚好分到骨干网 走香港的也不错
[10:49] <zhan> exit
[11:02] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 脸蛋最贵 : 一天,张三和李四去菜市场买菜。当他们走到卖禽蛋的摊位时,发现鸡蛋5元钱一斤。张三说:"这是什么蛋?这么贵?"李四说:"这蛋恐怕是世界上最贵的蛋了。" 卖鸡蛋的小伙子听了以后说:"世界上最贵的蛋是脸蛋,我已经给女朋友五千元钱了,可她妈
[11:02] <^k^> ─> 说,凭她女儿的脸蛋,再给一万也不多。"
[11:55] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[12:24] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 新人网络连接求助 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473970 我的路由器连上网了，但是在windows下，电脑和路由器用网线连接，可以直接上网，在ubuntu下不行，不会设置。直接把网线插在电脑上可以通过dsl连接上网。 zz: Mr.wang3014 — 2015-11-21 19:02
[13:15] <Freebuilder> Win10 用什么版本，企业版？
[13:18] <onlylove> 用啥win10 ，继续7
[13:20] <Freebuilder> 没 7
[13:20] <CyrusYzGTt> 我双系统，有一个win10 pro
[13:22] <Freebuilder> 企业版那个只做安全更新很诱惑我
[13:25] <CyrusYzGTt> 不了解，只是感觉对系统进行一般破坏修复后自动修复，不过 linux就不能挂载
[13:26] <Freebuilder> 我只在虚拟机里用 Windows
[13:26] <Freebuilder> 物理系统只能一个
[13:27] <Freebuilder> 妾可以多个，妻只能一个
[13:28] <CyrusYzGTt> 额，
[13:29] <CyrusYzGTt> 我是因为要玩游戏，和偷字体给 linux用
[13:35] <laofanser> linux 感觉需要多填些软件
[13:36] <Freebuilder> 填？
[13:36] <laofanser> 添
[13:36] <laofanser> 这个输入法用的有点不太习惯
[13:39] <Freebuilder> XD
[13:39] <Freebuilder> 填更好，填说明本来空缺，添就表达不出这层含义了
[13:39] <laofanser> 哈哈
[13:40] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • ati的显卡上的风扇怎么设置呢？amdcccle里面没有呢 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473971 linux里面貌似也没有这个pwm这个设备啊 怎么设置呢？ 我装了lm-sensors 也看不到这个显卡的温度 和pwm 风扇转速 zz: smallcsduck — 2015-11-21 21:39
[13:40] <laofanser> 这就 需要大牛们 努力了 使 linux 更好
[13:41] <Freebuilder> ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini 看样子可以创建多套配置
[13:44] <Freebuilder> 果然是的
[13:48] <WL_mutou`> e
[13:48] <WL_mutou`> 额啥意思？
[13:53] <laofanser> 聊天室里 有点冷清啊
[13:54] <boosure> ：（
[13:54] <Freebuilder> man firefox
[13:54] <CyrusYzGTt> 以前经常灌水
[13:55] <CyrusYzGTt> 都老了，要稳定，要赚钱 要找老婆
[13:56] <laofanser> 进英文频道 看得费劲
[13:56] <laofanser> 还是中文好啊
[13:56] <laofanser> 聊天室里 做it的应该多吧
[14:09] <Freebuilder> 不做it
[14:19] <Freebuilder> 你们用 Windows 更新不？
[14:25] <gfxmode> 工作日过来频道，会热闹点
[14:30] <cvk_> amd显卡驱动还不支持4.2内核吗
[14:45] <yunfan> onlylove: 那个二合一 续航真的能七八个小时
[14:45] <onlylove> yunfan: 那个平板？
[14:46] <yunfan> onlylove: 恩
[14:46] <yunfan> 就是我的序列号貌似被别人盗用了不爽
[14:58] <Freebuilder> 什么序列号？
[14:58] <Freebuilder> 什么平板？
[15:16] <yunfan> asua T100HA
[15:40] <laozhan> ^ ^
[15:41] <laozhan> hi
[15:41] <ubrl> laozhan:点点点. 23:43
[15:41] <laozhan> 想问一下 cloak
[15:41] <laozhan> ^ ^
[15:43] <thesicus> Hello everyone
[15:43] <laozhan> hi
[15:43] <ubrl> laozhan:点点点. 23:46
[15:44] <thesicus> 请问下没有/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax这个文件怎么办？
[15:45] <thesicus> ?
[15:45] <thesicus> 配置个postgresql愁死。。
[15:45] <thesicus> armlf的系统缺失好多。。
[15:50] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, netzclub的网络似乎坏了
[15:58] <thesicus> 只在freenode转悠过，今天刚玩IRC
[16:07] <gebjgd> thesicus, 我们都在看着你的第一次
[16:08] <thesicus> 谢谢
[16:09] <thesicus> 额，怎么对你说话，用＠吗？
[16:17] <thesicus> gebjgd, 这样？
[16:18] <gebjgd> thesicus, 恩那
[16:19] <thesicus> 哈哈，谢谢
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[13:26] <mcphail> Does anyone know why an .apparmor file containing http://termbin.com/eoc2 won't let me run "find /media/*/*/bg1 -maxdepth 0"? I'm getting Nov 21 13:09:11 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [117357.738918]type=1400 audit(1448111351.811:1191): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="bg1.njmcphail_bg1_0.10" name="/media/" pid=25663 comm="run.sh" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=0
[13:28] <mcphail> The docviewer app uses a similar trick to allow access to the sdcard
[13:43] <popey> mcphail, do you have the find binary in your click?
[14:00] <mcphail> popey: need to find the path to the sdcard. It has a unique ID
[14:00] <popey> mcphail, my point was, is it failing because it can't run the /bin/find binary ?
[14:00] <popey> (I had to copy mkdir binary into my click package)
[14:00] <mcphail> popey: using busybox find in the click
[14:01] <popey> k
[14:01] <mcphail> Can't seem to get this to work without making it unconfined
[14:05] <mcphail> I presume the "read_path" stanza isn't just for content-hub?
[14:08] <popey> no
[14:08] <popey> its read/write directly
[14:08] <popey> you copied from docviewer?
[14:08] <mcphail> yes
[14:08] <mcphail> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-docviewer-dev/ubuntu-docviewer-app/lo-viewer/view/head:/docviewer.apparmor
[14:09] <mcphail> that has xonten_exchange as well, but I think I don't need that
[14:09] <mcphail> I've tried /media/*/*/bg1/ as well, but that doesn't work either
[14:11] * mcphail wonders if simply "/media/" might work...
[14:14] <mcphail> OK, that seems to work. But it is a bit *broad*. Would an app pass a manual review with such permissions?
[20:24] <ok2cqr> Hi, I working on app that runs mysql server in embedded mode and saves the data to user's home directory. By default apparmor won't allow that. I have a scipt in post-install that does the modification but it seems direct changes of user.sbin.mysql is not good idea. Anybody know where I should paste the apparmor configuration changes, please?
[20:25] <ok2cqr> The script is here: https://github.com/ok2cqr/cqrlog/blob/master/tools/cqrlog-apparmor-fix
[20:40] <mcphail> popey: I've decided the BG app is probably ready enough to go up on the store. I'm sure it will attract lots of negative reviews due to the myriad of bugs, but I have broad shoulders. Do you know who I could ping for manual review for the sdcard access permissions?
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-devel
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[05:31] <darkxst> anyone around that can sponsor bug 1518478 to unbreak ubuntu-gnome live cd's?
[07:00] <darkxst> cjwatson, infinity : ^
[23:42] <Acerio> Anyone here a member of Ubuntu Hardened team?
[23:49] <Acerio> Nevermind.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.326897
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-ops
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[00:19] <hggdh> can someone get ubottu, or a cousin, active on #ubuntu-br?
[00:21] <valorie> that reminds me, we the KC have a #kubuntu-council page and i believe I was supposed to request it to be logged
[00:21] <valorie> page, I mean CHANNEL of course
[00:21] <valorie> sheesh
[00:21] <hggdh> heh
[00:21] <valorie> can someone remind me where I should send that request?
[00:22] <k1l_> valorie: its very difficult with this modern internet thingy :)
[00:22] <valorie> I need to do these things immediately or I forget entirely
[00:22] * valorie smacks k1l_ with a large trout!
[00:22] <k1l_> wasnt that rt@ubuntu server guys somewhat.com?
[00:23] <ikonia> not for ubottu
[00:23] <ikonia> only logbot
[00:23] <k1l_> logbot
[00:23] <Unit193> Which is what valorie wants.
[00:23] <valorie> logbot doesn't equal ubottu
[00:23] <valorie> I think we only need logging
[00:23] <ikonia> sorry, I only saw hggdh's request
[00:23] <Unit193> valorie: Logging = rt@ubuntu, or use the webinterface.
[00:24] <valorie> webinterface?
[00:24] * valorie googles for that
[00:24] <Unit193> rt.ubuntu.com
[00:24] <valorie> oooo, efficient
[00:25] <hggdh> and newish thingy, as well (Ionly knew the canoncical one)
[00:25] <Unit193> hggdh: I'd *guess* you'd want ubot5 so your OPs don't dal with the bantracker.
[00:26] <hggdh> Unit193: prolly. I could deal with BT, but not the others. So, yeah, you guessed right :)
[00:27] <hggdh> (others == other ops)
[00:27] <hggdh> which, BTW, I have to go and do a fall cleanup as well
[00:28] <valorie> \o/ done!
[00:28] <valorie> thank you Unit193
[00:29] <Unit193> Sure.
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> user get versioned by joining #ubuntu by * Received a CTCP VERSION from YWH_1
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[19:35] <Flannel> confirmed. Should send him a message to get him to turn it off. I'm walking out the door right now though :(
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-arm
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[18:28] <mathieu> Hello, I'm searching network-package for lubuntu 12.04 on arm. It's for a pcduino, I erase it and I cannot find it with the lan. Thanks
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-mythtv
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[04:07] <fluvvell> if I want to get to the vdpau settings, but can't find Utilities->settings->TV Playback is there a way to key to the menu if its not displayed?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-21-#kubuntu
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[09:24] <aris_> hi room new linux user 15.10 unfortunatelly added kubuntu weekly stable ppa s and after that vlc. vlc doesnt show all the frame in full screen only a part of it the biggest part is black and dragon player seems not be able to show subtitles any solutions
[09:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:51] <aris_> hi room new linux user 15.10 unfortunatelly added kubuntu weekly stable ppa s and after that vlc. vlc doesnt show all the frame in full screen only a part of it the biggest part is black and dragon player seems not be able to show subtitles any solutions
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:55] <lordievader> o/
[15:01] <Jim___> can I buy a USB stick with Kubunto already loaded?
[15:53] <gtr> привет всем
[15:53] <gtr> hello all's
[15:54] <lordievader> o/
[15:56] <Riste> Hello people and bots :D
[16:01] <Riste> y so silent
[16:02] <soee> hiho
[16:04] <Riste> What's up :D?
[16:05] <lordievader> Riste: It is the weekend ;)
[16:07] <Riste> lordievader: hello, oh yeah forgot it's only me working for the weekends *starts crying immensly*
[16:10] <starxx> hello
[16:10] <starxx> ребята, подскажите по регистрации своего канала
[16:11] <starxx> нужно дл скромной компании из 3х человек
[16:11] <lordievader> Riste: Do you like your work?
[16:11] <lordievader> !ru | starxx
[16:11] <starxx> shit..
[16:12] <Riste> lordievader: it's not that bad, but it's not what i love :D
[16:14] <lordievader> I see, well lets say it makes you appreciate other things more? (Trying to find a silver lining)
[16:16] <Riste> hahahaha, i appreciate my job, especially where i come from and how things are here its awesome
[16:16] <Riste> considering my age, soon hopefully though i'll be relocating starting from 0 :D
[16:57] <somekool> hello, I had a bug with kscreenlocker which I thought KDE related. but i dont have same problem under ArchLinux, its just that my monitor does not go idle/sleep after few minutes when my screen is locked. if I logout and get to sddm, its fine. archlinux, fine in both cases, sddm and screenlocker
[17:08] <lordievader> Sounds more like a config issue.
[17:10] <BluesKaj> disable the screenlock
[17:14] <lordievader> I was more hinting at System Settings -> Power management -> Energy Saving -> Screen Energy Saving
[17:43] <jubo2> I got a 1TB USB3 disk
[17:44] <jubo2> What's the best shot to make it work with GNU/Linukka, Windows and OS X ?
[17:44] <jubo2> and what is the leading intelligent backup system for Kubuntu?
[17:44] <jubo2> I mean copyleft solution
[17:45] <jubo2> Actually the disk hasn't worked in a long time.. Did something wrong at some point
[17:45] <lordievader> jubo2: For the second question, I'd say Dirvish. Not sure if it is copyleft though.
[17:45] <jubo2> I plug it in to Kubuntu and it shows as 937GB disk in the file browser but I cannot access it
[17:46] <jubo2> lordievader: ait.. I search for this Dirvish
[18:01] <jubo2> I'd wish for something where I just plug in the disk occasionally and the system takes care of synccing the files that have changed
[18:02] <jubo2> I don't currently have a machine I can dedicate to backupping
[18:04] <somekool> lordievader: thanks for the hint, it is already set to 10 minutes.
[18:05] <lordievader> jubo2: Write a udev rules which invoked dirvish/rsync when it is plugged in.
[18:08] <jubo2> I dunno what is udev
[18:11] <lordievader> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev
[18:14] <jubo2> ait..
[18:16] <lordievader> If you plug in something udev makes sure it is actually usable. You can change his behaviour slighly by rules. Thus you can set up a rule detailing that if a device with id X is inserted program/script Y should run.
[18:16] <jubo2> ok..
[18:17] <lordievader> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev#Writing_udev_rules
[18:18] <MichaelTun> anyone in here using Ubuntu 14.04 that would be willing to test something for me? Would take less than 2 minutes.
[18:18] <MichaelTun> Kubuntu*
[18:27] <jubo2> Can Gparted move partitions from disk to disk?
[18:27] <jubo2> I'm unable to locate my Kingston provided partition mover CD
[18:28] <jubo2> Got 6GB free on this Kubutnu15.10
[18:28] <jubo2> So really would need to move this to another bigger disk
[18:28] <lordievader> Not that I am aware of.
[18:28] <lordievader> But dd can.
[18:28] <jubo2> got one functional 2.5" 0.5TB disk here
[18:29] <MichaelTun> gparted is for managing partitions not copying and moving but like lordievader said dd can do it
[18:30] <jubo2> Maccple protections were nothing a little remount, 'sudo cp -r' and 'sudo chown username *' couldn't deal with yielding all protected files
[18:30] <jubo2> :D :D
[18:31] <jubo2> noticed on the way that 'sudo cd' will not run
[18:32] <lordievader> It does, but it is pointless.
[18:32] <jubo2> so I figured
[18:32] <lordievader> You open a new session, change the dir and close the session.
[18:33] <jubo2> Once http://maidsafe.net goes into Beta I gonna shop for good deal on 10x USB-to-SATA enclosures and hook 'em up
[18:34] <lordievader> Blegh, usb to sata.
[18:34] <jubo2> fill 'em up with really cheap used 0.25-0.32TB
[18:35] <jubo2> [Sunday, January 25, 2015] [06:37:41 PM] <jubo2> "It's like legalized socialism." ~ jubo-jubo on MaidSafe Networks
[18:37] <jubo2> and definatelly donating this 1TB USB3 if I can get it back to working
[18:37] <jubo2> the safecoins are paid via a fair lottery system btw
[18:38] <jubo2> and by the time the 4-gigacoin ceiling is reached the system will have migrated from pure socialism to a socialist-freemarketist system
[18:38] <jubo2> so hear me. nothing drastic will happen when the 4-gigacoin ceiling is hit
[18:39] <jubo2> Services will continue to be provided to inhabitants of Planet Earth
[18:39] <jubo2> Safecoins will continue to be paid if you need anything but the free level
[18:40] <lordievader> Err, what does this have to do with Kubuntu support?
[18:40] <jubo2> MaidSafe is pure amax0ring
[18:40] <lordievader> I.e. its offtopic...
[18:41] <jubo2> id est?
[19:01] <Rok> anyone available to help me with a Kmail issue? Upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 and it appears as though it deleted all of my Local Mail folders. I verified that the path to my local mail storage is correct, but all it shows is empty folders
[19:03] <Rok> Anyone at all...
[19:06] <Rok> Neat. Nobody helps. Nice. Why in the fuck is this listed as a support option?
[19:07] <Rok> Well, just an FYI, your motherfucking email overwrote 15 years of backup files during an upgrade. Backups that were stored in a secondary location (not the default path), so thanks for the support, douchebags!
[19:07] <Rok> exit
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-za
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[08:11] <MaNI> does anybody know if there is a trick to have both an AMD integrated APU and a pci-e card active at the same time? Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or if my bios just fails to support this
[08:55] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:56] <inetpro> MaNI: sorry, I have no idea
[11:50] <gremble> Hey th
[11:50] <gremble> theblazehen:
[11:50] <gremble> even
[11:50] <theblazehen> hi gremble, what's up
[11:51] <gremble> Nothing much. Doing Linear Algebra prep for friday
[11:51] <gremble> You?
[11:51] <theblazehen> Not much, just checked some log files
[11:52] <theblazehen> Still getting ~70 visitors a day to my one site, xkcdrandom.theblazehen.com
[11:54] <gremble> Oh nice
[11:54] <gremble> I only get russian bots :P
[11:55] <theblazehen> heh
[11:56] <gremble> Have't had time to make any more content though. Perhaps this coming 2 months I will sort out how to graph functions and do some math
[11:57] <theblazehen> Cool, can I see what you have atm?
[11:57] <gremble> grump.xyz
[11:57] <theblazehen> ty
[11:58] <theblazehen> looks fun
[11:58] <gremble> Lol. I dislike doing websites :P That is hosted on github with jekyll
[11:59] <gremble> And the easiest CSS so that its responsive at least
[11:59] <theblazehen> Cool
[11:59] <theblazehen> yeah. Have you seen startbootstrap.com?
[12:00] <gremble> Oh that is pretty cool
[12:01] <gremble> I'll go have a look
[13:22] <magespawn> good day
[13:27] <sakhi> Hello #ubuntu-za
[13:31] <theblazehen> hi magespawn, sakhi
[13:32] <magespawn> hi sakhi theblazehen
[15:03] <superfly> inetpro: where are you?
[15:04] <superfly> No one to meet me at the airport :(
[17:28] <Kilos> hmm... snow on the mountains in november
[17:28] <Kilos> evening gremble theblazehen inetpro and others
[17:53] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[18:39] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[20:49] <superfly> Hi.
[20:49] <smallpox> Hey superfly
[20:49] <superfly> Hi smallpox
[20:50] <smallpox> I'm gremble. It is for thanksgiving festivities :P
[20:50] <superfly> Ah!
[20:51] <smallpox> How are you today?
[20:51] <superfly> Tired. Glad to be home.
[20:51] <superfly> And you?
[20:51] <smallpox> Not bad. Nice and cool for a change.
[20:58] <superfly> It was really nice and warm in Maputo this week. But then, I enjoy the warm.
[20:59] <smallpox> I don't. I find it difficult to work in the heat :/ At least I can go to the office on campus for some aircon if it gets bad
[20:59] <smallpox> Did you go to Maputo for work or play?
[21:11] <superfly> Work
[21:12] <smallpox> Aww. That is unfortunate :P
[21:13] <superfly> Hard work. 7:30 to 21:00. Every day.
[21:13] <smallpox> Bleh :<
[21:13] <smallpox> Sounds like when I was doing theatre work
[21:14] <smallpox> Sounds like site installations
[21:16] <superfly> nope.
[21:17] <smallpox> Then it sounds even less fun haha
[21:17] <smallpox> Site installations used to be fun only because you would get to see new place
[21:17] <smallpox> places*
[21:18] <superfly> http://nomanini.com/nomanini-launches-new-elula-platform-driving-efficiency-for-enterprise-prepaid-distributors-2015-11-17/
[21:19] <superfly> That
[21:19] <smallpox> I read about that. Pretty cool ^^
[21:20] <superfly> That's what we're deploying in Mozambique
[21:21] <superfly> Runs embedded Linux
[21:22] <smallpox> That's pretty cool :p
[21:22] <superfly> Did you read my boss's blog post too? And see the video?
[21:22] <smallpox> No, only that link. inetpro linked it yesterday or the day before
[21:22] <superfly> http://googlecloudplatform.blogspot.co.za/2015/11/how-Nomanini-scaled-from-1-release-per-month-to-6-releases-per-day-with-GCP.html
[21:23] <superfly> Video is at the bottom of that one
[21:27] <smallpox> Interesting that you guys push the google cloud platform so much
[21:28] <smallpox> Do they sponsor you or something? :P
[21:31] <superfly> Nope, we use it, they love us.
[21:31] <smallpox> Oh alright. To me it seems like free advertisement for them :P
[21:31] <superfly> That was a video that the Google team came out to SA to film.
[21:32] <smallpox> Ah
[21:32] <smallpox> That makes sense
[21:32] <superfly> No, it's the other way round, free advertising for us!
[21:32] <smallpox> Oh, I hadn't noticed that the blog wasn't yours
[21:32] <smallpox> I retract my statement
[21:32] <smallpox> :P
[21:37] <superfly> Hehehe
[21:42] <smallpox> If I have a db that I want to keep private, is what would be a reasonable method of encrypting the entire db?
[21:43] <superfly> Depends
[21:43] <superfly> What db are you using?
[21:43] <smallpox> I don't know yet.
[21:43] <superfly> Where are you using it?
[21:43] <smallpox> I have an idea for a program, so I am spit balling
[21:43] <superfly> Desktop?
[21:44] <smallpox> It'll be on a server. So you access it with a web api
[21:44] <superfly> Is there a reason you want to encrypt if it is only accessible through an API?
[21:45] <smallpox> If my server gets owned, I would prefer to have the information at least reasonably (read very) hard to get out.
[21:46] <superfly> Ok. Ping me tomorrow evening, when I'm actually at my pc
[21:46] <smallpox> Alright :P
[21:46] <superfly> There are a few options
[21:46] <superfly> Time for me to head to zzzz land
[21:46] <superfly> Good night
[21:46] <smallpox> Sleep well
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| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-21-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:04] <clivejo> is soee in Munich?
[00:05] <valorie> unsure
[09:37] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:56] <soee_> hiho lordievader
[09:57] <lordievader> Hey soee_
[09:57] <lordievader> How are you today?
[09:57] <soee_> lordievader: pretty good :) still no winter here :/
[09:57] <soee_> you?
[09:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: sgclark yofel hello
[09:58] <shadeslayer> where's sitter ?
[09:58] <yofel> moin ^^
[09:58] <Riddell> oh hi shadeslayer, there you are :)
[09:58] <soee_> :)
[09:58] <yofel> haven't seen him yet..
[09:59] <Riddell> did anyone see him back to his hotel?
[09:59] <sgclark> morning
[09:59] <soee_> xenial will ship 15.12 apps right ?
[09:59] <yofel> I believe his friend went into the same direction
[09:59] <shadeslayer> well, seeing how we abandoned him and his friend in the middle of the street ...
[09:59] <lordievader> soee_: Doing good here :)
[10:00] * yofel blames the weather for tha
[10:00] <shadeslayer> stupid spitting rain
[10:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: where be the agenda
[10:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: also, do we have any DD's in the room?
[10:10] <shadeslayer> yofel: ^
[10:11] <shadeslayer> I need someone to do a binNMU of samba
[10:11] <Riddell> next door
[10:11] <Riddell> dunno, ask loudly :)
[10:11] <sgclark> Riddell: ping
[10:14] <Riddell> yofel: ping
[10:17] <shadeslayer> and where's jmux, I just realized I need to talk to him too
[10:17] <shadeslayer> xD
[11:32] <soee> i'm testing 358 nvidia driver on wily and it works pretty good
[11:33] <Riddell> sgclark: "Only the latest release forms a target for manual stable updates" https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies
[11:44] <mamarley> soee: Are you using my staging PPA?
[11:45] <soee> mamarley: graphics-drivers
[11:45] <soee> but this version is a bit outdated
[11:46] <soee> we have 358.09 and there is .16 i think already
[11:46] <mamarley> I actually have 358.16 in staging. I didn't want to copy it to the main PPA until ricotz has a look.
[11:47] <soee> ahi see
[11:47] <mamarley> I misread and thought you said 358.16 earlier, sorry.
[11:47] <soee> i forgot to mention the .x version
[11:48] <soee> mamarley: what is your staging ppa, maybe i could test it
[11:49] <mamarley> soee: Technically you aren't supposed to use it, but ppa:mamarley:staging.
[11:49] <soee> the most important part o .x16 is X.Org Server 1.18 support right but anyway it is not availabel in Wily ?
[11:50] <mamarley> ppa:mamarley/staging
[11:51] <mamarley> The packages should work with 1.18 whenever it is available, but I don't think it has been packaged yet.
[11:51] <soee> is there some option on launchapd to track/observe soem ppas ?
[11:54] <soee> reboot
[11:57] <soee> mamarley: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/11/21/snapshot36.png works fine
[11:59] <mamarley> Yay!
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:05] <soee> on slack, there is new channel called hangouts where you can start new hangout by typing /hangout
[13:05] <soee> and quickly invite other users from chan etc.
[13:26] <Odur> mamarley: Why not make a package like " nvidia-graphics-drivers-latest" so you don't have to watch for new releases?
[13:26] <Odur> Just like for the kernel
[14:40] <clivejo> has anyone got the lastest KDE Connect installed? and is it eating SMS messages ?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> clivejo, I have kde connect installed, but my setup is merely for file transfer not messages
[14:45] <clivejo> would you mind testing the SMS ?
[14:46] <clivejo> and what version are you running
[14:47] <yofel> sitter: https://notes.kde.org/p/pointless-munich-notes
[14:47] <bshah> lol "pointless"
[14:51] <mamarley> Odur: There are some issues with that and old cards that aren't supported in the latest releases.
[14:51] <clivejo> maybe too much beer :P
[14:52] <lordievader> Beer!
[15:10] <BluesKaj> clivejo, after an upgrade on my pc. my phone can longer access via kdeconnect
[15:10] <clivejo> BluesKaj: what versions?
[15:11] <clivejo> I really like this new feature to be able to reply to SMS via the desktop, so Im keen to debug what the problem is
[15:12] <clivejo> part of me thinks its a Samsung issue :/
[15:21] <BluesKaj> having trouble pairing my alcatel phone, so I don't think it's a samsung problem
[15:22] <clivejo> I mean the SMS eating problem
[15:22] <BluesKaj> well i can't even get my phone to see my pc and vice versa
[15:27] <Riddell> yofel: ping
[15:28] <clivejo> BluesKaj: are they both version 0.9?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> clivejo, dunno
[15:31] <lordievader> 'apt-cache policy kdeconnect' will tell you, I suppose.
[15:32] <clivejo> The android and desktop versions should match
[15:33] <BluesKaj> using version 8 on the pc, dunno how to see the phone version
[15:37] <BluesKaj> it was working perfectly untill the last upgrade, now kdeconnect seems useless on both devices
[15:37] <clivejo> there is no version 8
[15:37] <clivejo> its only at 0.9f at the minute
[15:38] <BluesKaj> 0.8 then
[15:39] <clivejo> what version is on your phone?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> dunno , how do I find out ?
[15:40] <clivejo> in the Play store, my apps
[15:40] <clivejo> go to KDE Connect and look at its version
[15:41] <BluesKaj> i see apps , but no my apps
[15:45] <clivejo> search for kde connect
[15:47] <clivejo> down at the bottom should be the Version and Updated on
[15:47] <BluesKaj> looks like 4.076
[15:47] <clivejo> mine is currently 0.9e - 13 Nov 2015
[15:48] <clivejo> and Im testing 0.9f+git20151119 on my desktop
[15:49] <clivejo> I think thats the installs you are reading, 4,077 installs
[15:49] <clivejo> do you see a read more button?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> no it says over 50 thousand , there's also a 4.7 that comes up
[15:50] <clivejo> thats the rating?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> no read more
[15:52] <BluesKaj> nm , i don't have the patience for it right now..I have other things. if I need to transfer any pics I'll just connect the phone to my pc via usb if I can't get it to work
[15:53] <BluesKaj> if I can't get kdeconnect to work that is
[18:32] <Odur> mamarley: Ok, I see. To bad
[21:15] <clivejo> hows the Munich meet up going?
[21:35] <jmux> clivejo: well - we watched Dr. Who, and almost everyone left for ar bar just a few minutes ago
[21:35] <clivejo> so plenty of work being done
[21:36] <jmux> clivejo: during the day - sure. We start at 10am, so I guess it's fine to call it a day at 10pm
[21:38] <clivejo> what was discussed today?
[21:38] <clivejo> any developments?
[21:40] <jmux> clivejo: No idea - I'm the cook, so until ~ 2 hours ago I was in the kitchen :-) But the sideboard is full of checked stuff, so for me it seems they were busy today...
[21:41] <clivejo> what did you cook for them?!?
[21:44] <ahoneybun> Has it been this quiet?
[21:44] * clivejo nods
[21:45] <clivejo> we need Lena Wagner to liven us all up a bit
[21:46] <jmux> clivejo: https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2015/11/Munich - look for Food. Oday we had pumpkin for dinner and green cabbage for lunch
[21:48] <ahoneybun> Right they are in munich
[21:49] <clivejo> drinking beer
[21:49] <ahoneybun> For sure
[21:49] <ahoneybun> I've been doing the same
[21:50] <jmux> Yup - beer is the first point on the list here :-)
[21:50] <ahoneybun> Breakfast beer!
[21:50] <jmux> And the 11th too
[22:01] <clivejo> hi soee_
[22:02] <soee_> hi clivejo
[22:02] <clivejo> do you have an andriod phone?
[22:14] <soee_> clivejo: yes, S3
[22:15] <clivejo> running KDE Connect?
[22:15] <soee_> yes
[22:16] <clivejo> what versions?
[22:17] <soee_> 0.8-0ubuntu5
[22:18] <clivejo> would you mind doing a test?
[22:18] <soee_> sure
[22:18] <clivejo> just a warning, this may eat your SMS messages
[22:19] <clivejo> are you on wily?
[22:20] * clivejo scratches head and wonders why xenial has been renamed senile on KCI
[22:23] <soee_> clivejo: thats not good, i can't loose my sms
[22:24] <clivejo> soee_: no problem
[22:24] <clivejo> Im trying to debug what seems to be a new feature
[22:24] <clivejo> being able to reply to SMS via your desktop
[22:25] <clivejo> but on my Samsung S5, the messages seem to not be delivered into my messaging application, Im trying to figure out why this is
[22:26] <clivejo> Im using Googles Messenger as my default SMS apps
[22:28] <soee_> hmm is it known bug maybe ?
[22:28] <clivejo> dunno, I posted a message to the KDE Connect ML
[22:29] <clivejo> are you using Samsung Touch Wiz ROM?
[22:35] <soee_> what is it ? :)
[22:35] <clivejo> the default operating system, or do you play about with custom ROM's?
[22:43] <soee_> deault one
[22:52] <valorie> hmmm, I have 0.9e on my phone, but 0.8-0ubuntu5 on my computer
[22:53] <valorie> I added the ppa; shouldn't it have upgraded?
[22:53] <valorie> do I have to uninstall it and then reinstall?
[22:53] <soee_> what apt-cache policy kdeconnect says ?
[22:55] <valorie> kdeconnect:
[22:55] <valorie> Installed: 0.8-0ubuntu5
[22:55] <valorie> Candidate: 0.8-0ubuntu5
[22:55] <valorie> Version table:
[22:55] <valorie> *** 0.8-0ubuntu5 0
[22:55] <valorie> 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ wily/universe amd64 Packages
[22:56] <valorie> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[22:56] <valorie> but I added your ppa, and I don't see it in the sources when I update/upgrade
[22:56] <valorie> full-upgrade
[22:56] <valorie> err, clivejo's PPA
[22:57] <valorie> otoh, they are connected
[22:57] <valorie> I've not tried to reply to SMS though
[22:57] <clivejo> valorie: on wily?
[22:57] <valorie> yes
[22:58] <clivejo> Im trying to install an old S2 here with CM12.1
[22:58] <clivejo> do some tests
[22:58] <valorie> I added your wily ppa on this box, xenial on my travel laptop
[22:58] <clivejo> I might have deleted the xenial one
[22:58] <valorie> my phone is stock htc one
[22:59] <valorie> that's ok, I only use it for testing until I travel again
[22:59] <valorie> why aren't you guys in Munich?
[23:00] <valorie> although they are probably leaving at this point
[23:01] * clivejo shakes head at the pathetic excuse they call cell coverage
[23:05] * clivejo is trying to send a SMS to himself, but knowing O2 the message wont be deilvered for a few hours
[23:05] <clivejo> Ill get it when Im sleeping
[23:24] * clivejo wonders if O2 is playing silly beggars again, or did KDE Connect eat the 3 SMS's he sent
[23:40] * clivejo gives up
[23:41] <clivejo> valorie: I have been using the KCI build of kdeconnect
[23:43] <clivejo> install it manually from here - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/8326156
[23:53] <clivejo> losing my patiences with this, I think its time for bed!
[23:53] <clivejo> night all
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-br
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[05:04] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[12:50] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[12:53] <M3r|iM> bom diaa mirquinhoooo
[12:53] <M3r|iM> acessa ai offtopic pra bater papo##.-.##
[12:53] <mirqui> opa , blza , tudo bem :) ?
[12:56] <barna> /j ##.-.##
[12:57] <mirqui> ?? que é isso barna ?
[12:57] <mirqui> diretório j , achuria ?
[12:58] <M3r|iM> mirqui, nao um canal mano
[12:58] <M3r|iM> digita ai -> /join ##.-.##
[12:59] <mirqui> haa , o nome do canal
[12:59] <mirqui> é sobre o que ?
[13:02] <M3r|iM> nao pode bater papo aqui mirqui
[13:02] <mirqui> ??
[13:02] <mirqui> como assim ?
[13:18] <M3r|iM> hggdh, explica pra ele mano
[13:32] <barna> mirqui, pelas regras do canal, só é permitido prestar ajuda/suporte nesse canal, não é permitido qualquer outro tipo de assunto, mas como aki nem sempre tem gente pedindo ajuda, meio q pode-se conversar de linux e afins quando num tem ninguem pedindo ajuda, alguns canais foram criados pra suprir essa demana. como o ##ubuntu-br (com 2 #) ##ubuntu-br-offtopic etc....
[13:33] <barna> foi criado recentemente o ##.-.## pra batermos papos, sobre tecnologia, ti, vidas pessoais etc....
[13:33] <mirqui> haa legal
[13:34] <mirqui> vou ver o ##ubuntu
[13:36] <M3r|iM> haaa
[13:51] <francisco_> bom dia pessoal
[13:52] <francisco_> alguem por ai
[13:52] <barna> dia
[13:55] <MerliM> dig
[13:55] <francisco_> voces indicam o 14.04 ou 15.10
[13:55] <francisco_> ?
[13:55] <barna> depende
[13:56] <barna> 14.04 vai ser mantido até 2019, estavel e confiavel, porem mais "antigo", não contem a ultima versão das coisas.
[13:56] <francisco_> pois e
[13:56] <francisco_> o ano que vem sai outra lts
[13:56] <barna> 15.10 vai ser mantido até julho de 2016 depois é descontinuado, mais sujeito a bugs e contem as "novidades", ultima versão de tudo.
[13:56] <francisco_> ne?
[13:57] <barna> sim em abril.
[13:57] <francisco_> atualmente uso a 14.04.03 lts
[13:57] <barna> 14.04 siginifica abril (04) de 2014 (14)
[13:57] <barna> a proxima será a 16.04
[13:58] <francisco_> mto bom
[13:58] <barna> pra trabalhar / produzir eu uso a 14.04, pra testar e desenvolver uso a 15.10
[13:58] <francisco_> eu estou estudando programação
[13:59] <francisco_> uso mais pra isso
[13:59] <francisco_> e para uso pessoal
[13:59] <francisco_> programar
[13:59] <francisco_> e uso pessoal
[13:59] <francisco_> gostei muito da versao lts
[13:59] <francisco_> esta bem estavel
[13:59] <MerliM> se eu usasse ubuntu
[14:00] <MerliM> eu escolheria de Olhos fechados toda LTS
[14:00] <francisco_> pois é
[14:00] <MerliM> ficaria com a minha 14.04.3 até sair o prox LTS e assim vai
[14:00] <MerliM> esse lance de "novidades"
[14:00] <MerliM> sei não porem opiniao minha
[14:00] <francisco_> vou fazer isso mesmo
[14:01] <francisco_> vou esperar ate a proxima lts
[14:02] <francisco_> MerliM
[14:02] <francisco_> qual distro vc usa
[14:02] <francisco_> ?
[14:03] <MerliM> GNU/Void Linux
[14:03] <francisco_> nao conheco
[14:05] <MerliM> Desenvolvimento independente no-systemd
[14:05] <MerliM> muito bom pra MEU USO
[14:06] <MerliM> compartilho da filosofia deles
[14:06] <francisco_> voce usa para qual finalidade?
[14:06] <MerliM> porem nao posso falar dele aqui
[14:06] <MerliM> tudo
[14:06] <francisco_> legal
[14:13] <Creto> Olá bom dia a todos, bom dia MerliM
[14:14] <Creto> quer falar sobre o void? tenho o maior interesse é só acessa #liberdadegnulinux e falar sobre ele lá MerliM
[14:14] <Creto> ops acessar*
[14:15] <francisco_> bom dia Creto
[14:16] <Creto> bom dia
[14:18] <francisco_> :D
[16:52] <ghs> olá pessoal
[16:52] <ghs> Instalei o Ubuntu 15.10, tem necessidade fazer dist-upgrade ?
[17:03] <barna> ghs, creio q não
[17:09] <hggdh> ghs: apenas para atualizar o kernel. De outra forma, upgrade é suficiente.
[17:12] <ghs> hggdh, mais não é necessário atualizar o kernel ?
[17:22] <hggdh> ghs: opiniões vairam. Eu prefiro atualizar, já que a maioria dos updates de kernel (dentro de uma versão) são para corrigir falhas de segurança
[17:23] <hggdh> ghs: de forma geral, para o apt-get (apt): upgrade (apt: upgrade) atualiza pacotes, mas *não* remove pacotes obsoletos, ou instala pacotes novos; dist-upgrade (apt: full-upgrade) remove pacotes obsoletos e instala pacotes de novas versões
[17:25] <ghs> hggdh, hmm
[17:27] <hggdh> ghs: oviamente, isto é uma simplificação. man apt e man apt-get para detalhes.
[20:25] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[22:06] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:09] <jaqent> Olá astroo-
[22:10] <astroo-> jaqent ola
[23:03] <Maico> Olá galera, eu acabei de instalar o ubuntu e estou tentando fazendo um dual-boot com o Windows, mas o boot não reconhece o CD
[23:03] <Maico> :/
[23:03] <Maico> Alguma ideia ?
[23:04] <astroo-> ola
[23:04] <MerliM> Maico, o boot nao reconhece o cd como assim explica man
[23:05] <MerliM> vc instalou o ubuntu normal
[23:05] <MerliM> ele ta botando
[23:05] <MerliM> bootando
[23:05] <MerliM> iniciando ???
[23:07] <Maico> Sim
[23:07] <Maico> Eu quero que ele inicie pelo CD
[23:07] <Maico> Mas mesmo com o boot do ubuntu no último ele n inicia
[23:08] <Maico> Eu preciso instalar o Windows :/
[23:09] <Maico> N dá p/ fazer uma máquina virtual porque fica muito lento
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.378756
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[09:32] <svij> nhaines_: ping
[17:29] <Kilos> o/
[21:23] <nhaines_> svij: pong
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.380201
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-21-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:16] <pleia2> knome: want to respond to this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-November/010947.html
[00:17] <pleia2> nice that they are offering, but they should go through the official mirrors process thing
[00:18] <knome> rrright
[00:18] <knome> i was going to do that but forgot
[00:18] <knome> i'll do it
[00:18] <pleia2> ty
[00:25] <knome> ok, done
[08:48] <flocculant> ochosi_ bluesabre : bug 1518533
[08:49] <flocculant> reported against shimmer for the moment, tagged it gtk318 for Laney - assuming this is nothing to do with us
[08:49] <flocculant> would have reported against something else if I'd known what :)
[12:23] <bluesabre> flocculant: ah, the wonderful world of gtk version updates
[12:25] <bluesabre> flocculant: shimmer is probably fine here, for every other new gtk3 version, we have to make a lot of changes
[12:29] <flocculant> bluesabre: :)
[12:29] <flocculant> at least I was pretty sure what the cause was this time :D
[13:45] <knome> bluesabre, did you see the discussion about the wallpaper contest webapp here?
[13:46] <knome> bluesabre, and where are we at with it?
[13:46] <bluesabre> knome: haven't read the backlog yet
[13:46] <bluesabre> knome: was going to crank it out this weekend
[13:46] <knome> ok
[13:46] <knome> also, what kind of help do you think we need with running the contest if we have your app?
[13:47] <knome> would the app be able to let us log in with something and then make the selections there?
[13:47] <knome> something like tagging would work well enough
[13:47] <knome> or alternatively, votes per image
[13:47] <knome> votes from logged in users, that is
[13:48] <knome> which would be at maximum the xubuntu team
[13:48] <bluesabre> knome: I figure we can have a list of users with elevanted priveleges who can vote, any lp can log in to submit, etc
[13:48] <knome> mhm
[13:49] <knome> if you do the LP login thing, consider doing it as a lib that other apps *cough* tracker *cough* can use as well
[13:49] <bluesabre> :D
[13:49] <bluesabre> I'll try to make it nice and reusable
[13:49] <knome> great
[13:50] <flocculant> afternoon knome
[13:50] <knome> the login is basically openid, so something generic with that might work
[13:50] <knome> but i don't know how you're going to get the team membership information then
[13:50] <knome> (there are the wordpress plugins if you want to look from there how canonical does it)
[13:50] <knome> hey flocculant
[13:54] <bluesabre> knome: cool, I might poke you when I am playing with that bit ;)
[13:54] <knome> haha
[13:55] <knome> feel free to
[15:22] <flocculant> hi krytarik
[15:22] <krytarik> Yo. :)
[15:30] <flocculant> bluesabre: "You may have noticed that GTK+ master has a large number of changes in the CSS area. As some like to put it: Oh NO! they’re breaking themes again!" https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2015/11/20/a-gtk-update/
[15:31] <bluesabre> flocculant: yeeeeeep
[15:31] <flocculant> :)
[15:31] <bluesabre> maybe we should use adwaita, its the only theme that can be persistently maintained (as part of gtk)
[15:32] <flocculant> not getting into that hornets nest of a discussion :p-
[15:32] <bluesabre> good idea
[15:32] <bluesabre> ;)
[22:13] <Unit193> rm'ing the xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin git repos, we just pull from Debian now.
[23:13] <krytarik> knome: Just worked on the Common Reference page a bit more today, and added a Git section there - should be ready to MP tomorrow.
[23:28] <knome> sounds good
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.395417
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"channel": "#xubuntu-devel"
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-nl
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[21:09] <Guest46034> he iemand zin om mij te helpen met het van pocorntime?
[21:10] <Guest46034> krijg het niet voor elkaar geeft een voutmelding
[21:11] <Guest46034> post zo de melding ff opnieuw opwekken
[21:12] <Guest46034> E: Kon sommige archieven niet ophalen, misschien kunt u 'apt-get update' of --fix-missing proberen?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.396840
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"Guest46034"
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}
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[17:50] <cmaloney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBTkjdJs04U
[23:05] <Scary_Guy> that's some #i3detroit level stuff :P
[23:06] <Scary_Guy> bbl
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.398072
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"Scary_Guy",
"cmaloney"
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}
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-pt
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[05:03] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:06] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.398583
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"astroo-"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pt"
}
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[20:44] <minasota> what do you all use for domain name registration?
[20:44] <Unit193> https://www.namecheap.com/
[20:46] <minasota> Unit193: so I can _just_ register with them, I don't have to host thru them, right?
[20:47] <Unit193> I don't use any of their hosting, no. There's also name.com, gandi.net, and some others.
[20:48] <minasota> I had a no-ip account. was going to use them, but it was like almost 60 bucks after everything was done
[20:49] <minasota> well, more like $47 and some change. ~25 a year for renewal and ~$10 for private registration
[20:50] <minasota> and some other stuff they added I did not need
[20:50] <Unit193> namecheap even has a Dynamic endpoint. My home router supports it, so if the router gets a new IP it can just update the subdomain for home. ddclient supports it.
[20:50] <Unit193> ...Didn't no-ip have a free tier?
[20:50] <minasota> Unit193: that's cool. I used no-ip for that.
[20:51] <minasota> No free teir that I know of as far as regestering a domain name
[20:51] <Unit193> And yeah, even with whoisguard my domain isn't even that bad for renewals.
[20:52] * minasota is missing the in-line spellcheck... still learning weechat
[20:52] <minasota> I'm looking at the site right now. Looks like what I searching for
[20:54] <minasota> idk, maybe I'm complicating things. All I need is a name that points to my server
[20:58] <minasota> Unit193: I'm curious, what do you use your server for?
[20:59] <Unit193> Depends which server, and a lot of things.
[21:16] <minasota> Unit193: man of many words... :) Ok
[21:17] <Unit193> Well, I could list a few, but don't really know what you're looking for. Of course an httpd, I run a firefox sync server but that's just a uwsgi application behind the httpd, cgit+gitolite repos, torrent tracker, I have a couple bots on different ones, one sits in #ubuntu even, etc, etc. :P
[21:24] <minasota> Unit193: good job, you have officially lost me :) I'm going to take a moment and google some of what you just said
[21:25] <Unit193> Well that wasn't quite what I intended, just gave a partial list.
[21:25] <minasota> Unit193: idk really, I want to learn and play around, but at the same time I don't want to comprimise legit things I'm using my server for
[21:26] <minasota> I know man, that's why I ask in here, You all are very knowledable
[21:26] * minasota knows how to spell, damn you weechat plugin...
[21:28] <Unit193> I suppose to be fair I have it because I either use it or am playing around with it. :P (I used to have bttracker running a while, forgot about it, ended up being handy then upgraded it to opentracker.)
[21:30] <minasota> I've actually been reading about creating a bot. But the documention is all over the place. Basically something like #newsly in ##news but for sports :D
[21:30] <Unit193> Ah, yanos bot.
[21:31] <Unit193> Erm, 'yano's bot'
[21:31] <Unit193> I idle in the weather channel getting alerts (eg, ##weather-us-tn for TN.)
[21:33] <minasota> I do the same thing. But for the weather I just created a conky script that I could view without opening anything
[21:33] <Unit193> Ah, I have a weather script for my conky as well, yeah.
[21:35] <minasota> it's nothing really other than, "can I do this" If I really need to know the weather there are plenty of recources :)
[21:37] <cyberanger> I'd been using namecheap, considering switching myself though
[21:38] <minasota> grrr, I've spent lmost an hour reviewing this service... I just need a freaking name for my server
[21:38] <minasota> :)
[21:40] <cyberanger> Unit193: what is it you use like dot.tk
[21:40] <cyberanger> minasota: have you seen dot.tk?
[21:43] <minasota> not yet..
[21:43] <Unit193> cyberanger: Ah yeah, though of course you can use others like .ga.
[21:43] <cyberanger> Might be your answer, your just needing it for family and friends, you don't need a full blown professional .com
[21:44] <cyberanger> Unit193: thanks, .ga was the other one
[21:44] <Unit193> Or, err, .net...
[21:44] <Unit193> cyberanger: There's a few now, though getting StartSSL certs is out of the question for .tk. Thanks for reminding me, even if I do still have those domains...
[21:45] <cyberanger> Unit193: wonder if letsencrypt will fix that
[21:45] <cyberanger> minasota: look at http://www.my.ga/en/index.html?lang=en and http://www.dot.tk/en/index.html?lang=en
[21:46] <Unit193> cyberanger: Actually they use freenom.com
[21:47] <minasota> cyberanger: thanks, will do
[21:50] <cyberanger> minasota: What Unit193 said, http://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
[21:51] <cyberanger> has .tk and .ga, few others
[21:51] <cyberanger> Unit193: thanks, forgot about that.
[21:52] <Unit193> Hah, maybe between the two of us we'll finally get it. :P
[21:59] <cyberanger> Maybe
[22:00] <Unit193> Meh, future of newsbeuter in Debian doesn't look great.
[22:28] <cyberanger> How so?
[22:28] <cyberanger> pull from git/subversion/bazzar then?
[23:04] <minasota> checked freenom and the domain I want is available - .ml .ga. cf. gq
[23:05] <minasota> "As a PAID domain name registrant, you receive the benefits of holding the legal license rights of the domain name. This means that you can register the domain for a longer period of time (1-10 years)"
[23:05] <minasota> How long does the free domain name last?
[23:05] <minasota> I'm assuming I have to update or something every 12 months?
[23:05] <cyberanger> Unit193: Has it changed lately?
[23:06] <cyberanger> minasota: think 3 or 6 months, you just renew it though, Unit193 might know more
[23:12] <minasota> so it's like a host with no-ip, just renew when time is up?
[23:15] <cyberanger> Yep
[23:25] <Unit193> cyberanger: Usually 12 months is the long option, aye.
[23:29] <minasota> cool
[23:38] <minasota> Unit193: you still around?
[23:38] <Unit193> Yeah.
[23:45] <minasota> the firefox sync server you said you run, I know firefox offers that service with an account acctivation. Just curious how/why you setup your own. Might be something I'd like to do
[23:46] <minasota> Basically, what advantage would I have running my own sync server for firefox over what is already available?
[23:46] <Unit193> I then "own" the data. I didn't really "feel" comfortable trying it out with them having all my data.
[23:47] <Unit193> cyberanger has it better of course, FXA too.
[23:47] <minasota> Unit193: I totally understand. Can you point me towards something I could read up on this more, please
[23:48] <Unit193> https://docs.services.mozilla.com/howtos/run-sync-1.5.html well this isn't what I did, but docs.
[23:51] <minasota> cool, I'll take a look. I found this one, too https://www.vegard.net/archives/10175/ I like the idea of owning the sync/data. thank you
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.403309
| 2015-11-21T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-ir
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[12:22] <mhn_> hi
[12:23] <mhn_> سلام
[12:23] <mhn_> کسی نیست
[12:24] <mhn_> من موقع بالا اومدن لینوکس یه پیغام دارم
[12:24] <mhn_> میخواستم ببینم چیه؟
[12:24] <mhn_> ؟
[12:24] <mhn_> بای
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.410632
| 2015-11-10T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"mhn_"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
}
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-se
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[07:32] <recharge> morrn
[08:14] <Spookan> Morron.
[09:00] <HeMan> Morrn!
[09:01] <Spookan> Kaffe!
[12:41] <Hund> Mer kaffe!
[13:56] <Hund> Ännu mer kaffe
[14:19] <Barre> haha... känner du dig ensam Hund? jag kan ta en kopp jag också
[14:20] <Hund> Barre: Det är en väldigt relativ fråga här på #ubuntu-se. :P
[14:21] <Barre> Det är så mycket hets och aktivitet på Internet, så när jag känner för att vara lite för mig själv brukar jag logga in här ;)
[14:21] <Hund> haha :D
[14:21] <Hund> Det är fan mer vettigt folk här än på typ Facebook.
[14:24] <Barre> hahaha
[14:25] <Hund> Säg inget till mina vänner bara. ;)
[14:26] <Barre> promise
[14:26] <Barre> MEH, glömde att slå på kaffebryggaren.. räcker tydligen inte med fylla på kaffe och vatten.
[14:26] <Hund> haha
[14:26] <Hund> Klassiker. :P
[14:40] <Barre> andol: är det du som satt up er radicale?
[16:04] <maxjezy> larsemil, vet du vad praksis betyder
[16:04] <maxjezy> norsk
[16:05] <Amoz> https://no.wiktionary.org/wiki/praksis
[16:23] <andol> Barre: Jo, har en radicale snurrandes privat.
[16:50] <larsemil> samma som på svenska maxjezy.
[18:23] <Barre> andol: kör du den med wsgi/apache2 eller uwsgi/ngnx. kör du radicale i en virtualenv? jag får det inte riktit att lira nämligen
[18:24] <andol> Barre: wsgi/apache2, utan virtualenv
[18:25] <Barre> andol: ok, våga posta din radicale.wsgi och apache vhost?
[18:25] <Barre> :D
[18:28] <andol> https://git.lysator.liu.se/snippets/8 är vad jag har i Apache.
[18:28] <andol> Sen vad gäller radicale.wsgi så kör jag på den tillhandahållet utav Debian-paketet, vilket verkar vara i princip samma som exemplet i Radicales dokumentation.
[18:29] <andol> Kan möjligtvis vara värt att nämna att det radicale-paket jag har installerat är en egen backportning utav Radicale 1.0.1
[18:31] <andol> Plockade dåvarande radicale 1.0-1 från Debian Unstable, peta in ny källkod från uppström, och byggde om för Jessie.
[18:32] <andol> Nu finns iofs Radicale 1.0.1 i Unstable, så nu kan man ju plocka det källkodspaket och bygga om direkt.
[18:33] <Barre> andol: installerade radicale med pip
[18:33] <andol> Vad tycker apt om att du är otrogen? :P
[19:00] <Barre> kan inte förstå varför inte wsgi laddas, inget i radicale.log och enbart 403 i access.log
[20:12] <Amoz> goopen, wat
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.418863
| 2015-11-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-ru
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[10:55] <SergeyIT> уже утро, что ли?
[11:07] <tagezi> нет ещё.. я же ещё не поздаровался )
[14:32] <SergeyIT> ой, уже вечер
[14:34] <tagezi> пол пятого пока только
[14:35] <SergeyIT> а солнце где?
[14:37] <tagezi> в центре нашей солнечной системы )
[14:38] <andrex> высоко солнце, и в честь этого события работаем работаем, мои черномазые друзья :D
[14:39] <andrex> паспорт всеравно не верну)
[14:43] <SergeyIT> может кто и работает.... а у меня вечер уже
[14:43] <tagezi> andrex: отлынивает )
[14:48] <SergeyIT> реллллаксирует
[14:48] <andrex> дзен поймал)
[14:48] <SergeyIT> лень...
[14:48] <andrex> нет это дзен)
[14:48] <uneform_alex> Добрый вечер
[14:48] <andrex> бобрый
[14:48] <uneform_alex> Админы Linux не знают усталости :)
[14:48] <SergeyIT> ато на востоке у тебя дзень, а у меня - лень ловить кого-то
[14:49] <andrex> ну как хош
[14:49] <SergeyIT> кто здесь админ?
[14:49] <andrex> фз
[14:49] <andrex> это кто вобще?
[14:49] <SergeyIT> где?
[16:08] <SergeyIT> бу
[17:05] <artus> вечер
[17:29] <tagezi> artus: и тебе ))
[19:09] <Sergey_IT> ок
[19:55] <Sergey_IT> вечера однако
[20:06] <Sergey_IT> http://rsdn.ru/forum/humour/6240268.1
[20:38] <bledniy> test
[20:38] <ubuntuhelp> bledniy, Ну понг, и что?
[20:40] <bledniy> народ, как в грубе забеклистить определённую версию ядра? Чтоб update-grub2 не загружал её по дефолту.
[20:43] <Sergey_IT> так удали эту версию
[20:45] <bledniy> да она текущая - зависимости ломаются
[20:47] <bledniy> и чё это вообще за прикол в ядре 3.16.0-53-generic, что команда ip rule list зависает... Они это чинить собираются?
[20:54] <Sergey_IT> так напиши им и спроси (баг оформи)
[20:54] <Sergey_IT> какой дистр?
[20:58] <bledniy> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[20:58] <bledniy> я не владею английским :(
[21:04] <Sergey_IT> у меня 3.13.0-66-generic #108-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 7 15:21:40 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:05] <bledniy> да, на 3.13 нету бага, только в ветке .16 проявляется. 64-битная версия у меня, кстати
[21:14] <Sergey_IT> тему на форуме создай, может кто поможет, проверит , баг оформит
[21:26] <bledniy> хм, оказывается это ещё в 3.16.0-52 началось. Таки придётся уходить на другую ветку
[22:11] <tagezi> интересный способ... поставить приложение, так как зависимости, и не запускать его, так как оно глючит.. интересно, сто быдет в итоге? )
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.435581
| 2015-11-10T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-10-#launchpad-dev
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[09:23] <maozhou> If the release have not been updated , Can I rebuild the package on launchpad?
[09:27] <wgrant> maozhou: Can you explain your question in more detail?
[09:33] <maozhou> wgrant: Can I rebuild the package if I just change the chroot file?
[09:34] <wgrant> maozhou: A successful build cannot be retried. The only way to rerun the build is to upload a new version of the package.
[09:34] <maozhou> wgrant
[09:35] <maozhou> wgrant: ok, thanks :)
[19:48] <blr> morning
[20:55] <wgrant> Morning.
[22:08] <lifeless> o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.437924
| 2015-11-10T00:00:00 |
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"blr",
"lifeless",
"maozhou",
"wgrant"
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"channel": "#launchpad-dev"
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-il
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[20:17] <who-me> ווה איזה דינוזאורום
[20:17] <who-me> יש פה מישהו במקום הזה?
[20:17] <trytry> כן
[20:17] <trytry> דינוזאורים בעיקר...
[20:18] <who-me> אני חייב לציין שערקתי למינט
[20:18] <trytry> יש סיבה
[20:18] <who-me> למרות שטכנית זה עדיין אובונטו
[20:18] <trytry> אם אתה רוצה שהטרמינל לא ישגע אותך תחליף פונט
[20:18] <trytry> יש לו נטיה לא להיות מסונכרן לטקסט במיוחד שיש לך עברית בpath
[20:19] <who-me> אה אני סבבה עם זה דווקא
[20:19] <trytry> יפה
[20:19] <who-me> אני פה למטרות נוסטלגיה
[20:19] <trytry> זאת הסיבה שעברתי לקובונטו
[20:19] <trytry> או ליתר דיוק פעם ראשונה שלי בקובונטו היתה אחרי מינט :-)
[20:19] <who-me> לא ביקרתי פה מאז הנסיון הכושל שלי להתקין אובונטו באופן מחתרתי במחשבים בבית ספר
[20:19] <who-me> כבר הספקתי להתגייז ולהשתחרר מאז XD
[20:19] <trytry> חחח
[20:20] <trytry> אוי גדול
[20:20] <trytry> להתגייז
[20:20] <who-me> זה המונח הראוי
[20:20] <trytry> נכנס
[20:20] <who-me> ლ(・Д・ ლ )
[20:20] <trytry> טוב מסתבר שיוטיוב יודע מה להמליץ לשמוע
[20:20] <trytry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGfO2Dgc9Y
[20:21] <who-me> מעניין שדדדורדה עדיין פה
[20:21] <who-me> כאילו לא עכשיו ספציפית
[20:21] <who-me> אבל ככה הלוג מספר לי
[20:21] <trytry> כן הוא מבקר בהיכלו
[20:21] <who-me> הערוץ הזה זה כמו ביקור בעידן היורה בחיי
[20:22] <trytry> האמת היא שכשאתה בקוד פתוח זה רלוונטי ביותר
[20:22] <trytry> כל פרויקט קטד פתוח יש לו כמעט ערוץ
[20:22] <trytry> הרבה יותר קל כך לקבל תמיכה מהמפתחים ולדווח באגים
[20:22] <trytry> זה החלק שאני דווקא אוהב בקוד פתוח
[20:23] <who-me> אכן
[20:23] <who-me> מה לעשות אבל האייארסי כבר בדמדומים
[20:24] <who-me> ווטסאפ ודומיו די כיסחו אותו
[20:24] <trytry> לא חשוב שאתה צודק
[20:24] <trytry> למרות שראיתי אתמול שיש קבוצה בטלגרם של gnu
[20:24] <trytry> די הפתיע אותי
[20:24] <trytry> יכול שזה היה ערוץ ולא קבוצה אבל מה זה משנה
[20:25] <who-me> אולי מפתחים למיניהם ואנשים שיש להם מטרות ספציפיות
[20:25] <who-me> אבל רוב האנשים שהייתי מדבר איתם פה קבוע נעלמו
[20:25] <trytry> כמו מי?
[20:25] <who-me> יותר אנשים מריזון האמת
[20:25] <who-me> אני קצת חלש בפרינוד
[20:26] <who-me> אז יכול להיות שאני משליך
[20:26] <trytry> מה יש בריזון שאין פה?
[20:26] <who-me> אנשים :}
[20:26] <trytry> :-)
[20:26] <trytry> אני חושב שמצליחים לשמור פה על מספר די קבוע של משתמשים
[20:26] <trytry> מדי פעם יש אורח פורח
[20:26] <who-me> שמע אני מקווה שאני טועה
[20:26] <who-me> אבל לפי מה שאני זוכר פעם היה פה טראפיק הרבה יותר רציני
[20:26] <who-me> וזה די דעך
[20:27] <who-me> עדיין אין כמו להתכתב דרך הטרמינל
[20:27] <who-me> למרות שאפשר גם בטלגרם אבל אין לי כוח לסדר את זה
[20:29] <who-me> ( ノ ◉︿◉)ノU G U U U U ♪.+ﾟ*｡:ﾟ+
[20:30] <trytry> מקווה שאתה לא גולש עם lync
[20:31] <who-me> אני לבטוח לאיזה lync אתה מתכוון
[20:31] <who-me> אז אני אניח שלא
[20:31] <trytry> דפדפן דרך הטרמינל
[20:32] <who-me> אה, לא
[20:32] <who-me> פיירפוקס מפתחים
[20:32] <who-me> וויואלדי בעדיפות שניה
[20:32] <trytry> וויואלדי?
[20:33] <who-me> זה דפדפן ממש נחמד
[20:33] <who-me> הבחור שתכנן את אופרה או משהו
[20:33] <trytry> link כלשהו
[20:33] <who-me> https://telegram.me/kateam
[20:33] <who-me> אה אופס
[20:33] <who-me> https://vivaldi.com
[20:34] <who-me> אני יותר מדי מהיר על האנטר
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[15:00] <UbuntuFun_de> Hi there :)
[15:26] <popey> hey
[15:26] <popey> we're live in 35 mins
[16:02] <dholbach> let us know if you have questions, just make sure you prefix them with QUESTION:
[16:06] <Knightmare> QUESTION: The Linux community gives Canonical/Ubuntu a lot of stick about their involvement, or lack there of in the development of Linux. What innovations/technologies has Ubuntu used from other projects recently(Desktop/Phone/Server)?
[16:14] <UbuntuFun_de> QUESTION: When can we expect the first commercial Ubuntu Phone that supports Convergence? And how will be the partner?
[16:15] <Knightmare> QUESTION: How is Ubuntu phone fairing in China/India. Has there been good adoption?
[16:28] <Knightmare> popey: Tesco's finest
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-mozillateam
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[22:27] <TLF> Hello. May I ask If there are any plans to get the Ubuntu Mozilla Daily PPA into Wily? Thanks.
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-it
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[08:27] <michele993> salve ragazzi
[08:27] <michele993> devo rimuovere una voce dal grub e rinominarne un'altra
[08:27] <michele993> come faccio?
[08:28] <ExPBoy> !grub
[08:28] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[08:31] <glpiana> ola
[08:34] <michele993> ola
[08:54] <irri1971> buongiorno a tutti
[08:54] <irri1971> se possibile vorrei farvi una domanda tecnica
[08:54] <akis24> !ciao irri1971
[08:54] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'ciao irri1971'
[08:54] <akis24> !ciao | irri1971
[08:54] <ubot-it> irri1971: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[08:54] <akis24> !chiedi
[08:54] <ubot-it> per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[08:54] <irri1971> grazie
[08:55] <irri1971> ok semplicemente
[08:55] <irri1971> ho il14.04 e non mi funziona la webcam
[08:55] <gigirock> !info cheese
[08:55] <ubot-it> cheese (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.1-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 90 kB, installed size 661 kB
[08:56] <akis24> eheh
[08:56] <gigirock> irri1971, hai installato cheese ?
[08:56] <irri1971> istallato ma nulla
[08:56] <gigirock> irri1971, la webcam e' usb ?
[08:56] <irri1971> si
[08:57] <gigirock> allora stacca la webcam e aspetta 3 secondi poi la riattacchi , dal terminale fai dmesg e vedi che dice
[08:57] <irri1971> provo
[08:59] <irri1971> mi ha tirato fuori due icone
[09:00] <gigirock> irri1971, chi ?
[09:00] <akis24> irri1971: meglio dare dmesg | grep usb lo preferisce anche gigirock e metti tutto su paste cosi puo' aiutarti
[09:00] <akis24> !paste | irri1971
[09:00] <ubot-it> irri1971: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:00] <irri1971> io l'ho digitato su (cerca nel pc e on line)
[09:01] <akis24> irri1971: apri il terminale e dallo li
[09:02] <irri1971> scusa la mia ignoranza in materia ma per terminale cosa intendi
[09:02] <akis24> irri1971: dal menu avrai la voce terminale cliccaci sopra si apre una finestra
[09:03] <irri1971> vado
[09:03] <michele993> salve
[09:03] <michele993> non riesco a capire dalle guide
[09:04] <michele993> qualcuno mi segue passo passo sulla modifica del grub?
[09:06] <akis24> michele993: occhio che a toccare grub sono guai spiega cosa vuoi fare
[09:06] <michele993> ok, allora qui puoi notare quello che c'è nel grub http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13214679/
[09:07] <michele993> vorrei togliere dal grub Windows Recovery Environment (loader) su /dev/sda2
[09:07] <michele993> come faccio?
[09:07] <akis24> michele993: scusa ma che fastidio ti da' ?
[09:07] <michele993> è una voce inutile
[09:08] <michele993> accede sempre a windows 10
[09:08] <michele993> cosi come la voce su dev/sda1
[09:08] <akis24> michele993: eh ma grub la vede come voce di avvio della recovery .. non inutile
[09:08] <gigirock> michele993, mi sa che devi 'hidare' la partizione dal gparted
[09:09] <michele993> non posso hidarla dal grub?
[09:09] <irri1971> fatto dsmeg mi dice comando non trovato
[09:09] <gigirock> dmesg | grep usb irri1971
[09:10] <gigirock> michele993, certo che la puoi togliere ma ogni volta che dai update-grub te la ritrovi
[09:10] <irri1971> fatto mi da una lista lunghissima
[09:10] <michele993> ah... :/
[09:10] <michele993> ho paura che hidando dal gparted poi non mi parte più windows
[09:11] <gigirock> michele993, ho paura anch'io
[09:11] <michele993> praticamente sda1 e sda2 sono relativi entrambi a windows 10
[09:11] <akis24> michele993: lascia quelle voci servono a ripristinare winz in caso di problemi e comunque a ogni aggiornamento di grub le riavresti di nuovo
[09:11] <michele993> perché una è quella dei file di sistema 100mb e l'altra è l'hdd di wondows 10
[09:13] <michele993> riavvio un attimo
[09:14] <irri1971> che devo fare con questa mega lista
[09:15] <akis24> !paste | irri1971
[09:15] <ubot-it> irri1971: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[09:15] <irri1971> ok
[09:15] <michele993> eccomi
[09:16] <michele993> raga è proprio brutto cosi...
[09:18] <ExPBoy> michele993, ma quante volte lo vedi in un giorno il grub?
[09:18] <michele993> tante
[09:18] <michele993> sentite ho un'altra domanda
[09:19] <michele993> come mai quando clicco su arresta o riavvia
[09:19] <michele993> fa prima il logout e poi devo rifare arresta o riavvia
[09:20] <gigirock> irri1971, dai dal terminale sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[09:22] <irri1971> credo di aver fatto tutto su paste
[09:23] <akis24> irri1971: posta il link della pagina che si è aperta qui in canale
[09:24] <irri1971> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13214722/
[09:25] <irri1971> gigirock fatto anche quello
[09:27] <gigirock> irri1971, quante volte l'hai inserita e tolta quella webcam ?
[09:28] <irri1971> e' un po' che provo a farla partire ho fatto molti tentativi a vuoto ovvio
[09:29] <gigirock> si ma sembra che si colleghi e scolleghi di continuo , irri1971 prova "lsusb | pastebinit"
[09:30] <irri1971> sempre su terminale?
[09:30] <gigirock> si irri1971
[09:30] <irri1971> ok
[09:32] <irri1971> con il virgolettato mi dice comando non trovato
[09:32] <gigirock> irri1971, senza virgolette.....
[09:32] <ExPBoy> :(
[09:33] <irri1971> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13214769/
[09:33] <irri1971> riccardo@riccardo-imedia-S2185:~$
[09:34] <irri1971> questo
[09:37] <gigirock> irri1971, sudo apt-get install guvcview
[09:38] <irri1971> vado
[09:39] <irri1971> sta istallando dei pacchetti
[09:40] <irri1971> credo abbia finito
[09:44] <irri1971> vado a provarla a dopo grazie 1000
[09:48] <giovanni> salve a tutti sono nuovo nel mondo ubuntu e ho un problema il mio pc quando aveva sistema windows per collegarsi a internet aveva un pennino usb chiamato tp-link modello tl-w725n ma da quando ho installato ubuntu non me lo riconosce piu
[09:49] <giovanni> chi mi aiuta
[09:51] <irri1971> fatto ma come prima la vede ma non la fa avviare
[09:52] <gigirock> irri1971, sudo apt-get install --reinstall cheese
[09:52] <irri1971> ok
[09:53] <irri1971> fatto
[09:53] <gigirock> riprova cheese e guvcview
[09:53] <Perdu> buon giorno a tutti
[09:54] <Perdu> scusate sono in ubutu.it?
[09:54] <irri1971> ok
[09:54] <Perdu> ho un problema con liberoffice
[09:55] <Perdu> potete aiutarmi per favore?
[09:56] <irri1971> istallati entrambi ma nulla
[09:58] <giovanni> salve a tutti sono nuovo nel mondo ubuntu e ho un problema il mio pc quando aveva sistema windows per collegarsi a internet aveva un pennino usb chiamato tp-link modello tl-w725n ma da quando ho installato ubuntu non me lo riconosce piu
[09:59] <Perdu> ho un problema con lieberoffice
[09:59] <Perdu> non riesco a numerarela pagina di inzio libro, ovvero far iniziare con una data opagina il libro
[10:04] <Drugo> Ciao a tutti, sono su ubuntu mate, devo attivare il eufi potete aiutarmi? devo installare un altra distro (kubuntu)
[10:04] <giovanni> come scopro che versione ho di ubuntu ???
[10:04] <apierantoni> buongiorno
[10:05] <apierantoni> !mysql
[10:05] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/MySql
[10:05] <Carlin0> giovanni, lsb_release -a
[10:05] <Perdu> buon giorno
[10:05] <Perdu> ho un problema con liberoffice qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[10:05] <giovanni> grazie mille
[10:06] <apierantoni> ho installato ubuntu 14.04 lts, ho scaricato tutti gli aggiornamenti (installazione pulita) e installato mysql secondo la guida ufficiale di ubuntu, cambiato l'indirizzo ip con il mio (come suggerito) ma quando provo a loggarmi mi dice errore socket
[10:07] <sbasso> Perdu: esponi il tuo problema qualcuno risponderà
[10:07] <Perdu> ok grazie
[10:07] <apierantoni> mysql -h indirizzo_host -u nome_utente -p ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket │
[10:08] <apierantoni> │ '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[10:08] <Perdu> ho terminato il mio nuovo libro vorrei che la numerazione della prima pagina di testo cominci dalla numero 10 ma liber office pur seguendo le istruzioni non me lo permette
[10:08] <Carlin0> Perdu, dal menù inserisci → comando di campo → numero di pagina
[10:08] <Perdu> si lo ho fatto
[10:08] <Perdu> e inizia dalla pagina numero 1
[10:08] <sbasso> apierantoni: fai dpaste di my.cnf?
[10:09] <apierantoni> !paste
[10:09] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[10:09] <apierantoni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13214905/
[10:09] <Carlin0> Perdu, e da che pagina dovrebbe iniziare ?
[10:10] <Perdu> dalla pagina numero 10
[10:10] <Perdu> col numero 10
[10:10] <irri1971> con guvcview mi da errore e parla di mancanza di driver
[10:11] <apierantoni> Carlin0: ecco il paste corretto http://paste.ubuntu.com/13214912/
[10:11] <Carlin0> fagli 9 pagine vuote all'inizio Perdu , su dai un po di fantasia nella vita
[10:11] <Perdu> ok adesso ci provo
[10:13] <Perdu> nel pie di pagina come si fa a mettere converti1 come stile?
[10:13] <sbasso> apierantoni: che permessi hai sul sock e sulla sua dir?
[10:14] <apierantoni> root ha permessi solo per accedere
[10:15] <sbasso> apierantoni: e il sock?
[10:17] <apierantoni> se entro non vedo file
[10:17] <apierantoni> è rossa la finestra O.o
[10:18] <sbasso> se fai "sudo ls -ahlt /var/run/mysqld/" che ti da?
[10:19] <apierantoni> drwxr-xr-x 25 root root 800 nov 10 11:06
[10:19] <apierantoni> drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql root 40 nov 10 11:01 .
[10:19] <gigirock> sbasso, ma non si deve specificare ip del server ?
[10:20] <sbasso> NON FARE PASTE QUI
[10:20] <apierantoni> pardon
[10:21] <sbasso> gigirock: dice di averlo fatto, a me sembra più un problema di permessi
[10:21] <Dinho> Buongiorno a tutti, devo creare un dvd con l iso di kubuntu, ch programma mi consigliate?
[10:22] <apierantoni> bind-address = 127.0.01 ho inserito il mio indirizzo ip 10.0.2.15
[10:22] <apierantoni> come da guida
[10:22] <gigirock> apierantoni, indirizzo del server o tuo indirizzo ?
[10:23] <gigirock> !info brasero | Dinho
[10:23] <ubot-it> Dinho: brasero (source: brasero): CD/DVD burning application for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 3.12.1-0ubuntu2 (wily), package size 171 kB, installed size 1109 kB
[10:23] <apierantoni> il mio indirizzo ip
[10:23] <Dinho> @ubot-it grazie, mi ero dimenticato che lo tengo pure installato xD
[10:25] <apierantoni> la guida dice "All'indirizzo 127.0.0.1 va sostituito l'indirizzo IP del computer dove risiede il server. " il mio ip è 10.0.2.15
[10:26] <Dinho> come velocità masterizzazione ho messo 4x che dite va bene o meglio metterlo ancora pi basso?
[10:27] <gigirock> Dinho, meta' di quello scritto sul dvd
[10:27] <sbasso> apierantoni: mysqladmin -u root -p status <- vedi un po' se musql sta girando
[10:27] <Dinho> ah ok questa cosa mi è nuova, sul dvd c'è scritto 16x quindi il 4x va di lusso
[10:28] <apierantoni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13214994/
[10:29] <apierantoni> mi sa che disinstallo tutto e reinstallo
[10:29] <apierantoni> faccio prima
[10:30] <sbasso> ma hai messo la password a mysql-root?
[10:30] <apierantoni> yes
[10:30] <apierantoni> durante l'installazione
[10:32] <sbasso> restarta mysql
[10:32] <gigirock> apierantoni, ps -ea | grep mysql vedi quanti processi stanno aperti
[10:34] <apierantoni> il restart ha fallito ed ho aperto mysqld mysqld_safe e mysqld
[10:34] <apierantoni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13215014/
[10:37] <gigirock> apierantoni, killa tutti quei processi poi riavvia solo mysqld
[10:37] <apierantoni> oddio, in linguaggio da nubbio, come li killo?
[10:37] <gigirock> sudo killall mysqld | apierantoni
[10:38] <gigirock> sudo killall mysqld_safe | apierantoni
[10:38] <apierantoni> ok
[10:39] <apierantoni> mysqld_safe: nessun processo trovato
[10:39] <gigirock> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[10:39] <gigirock> | apierantoni
[10:39] <apierantoni> è partito
[10:39] <gigirock> prova ad accedere
[10:40] <apierantoni> mysql -u root -p giusto?
[10:40] <gigirock> yes
[10:40] <apierantoni> thx
[10:40] <apierantoni> ora va
[10:40] <gigirock> nice
[10:42] <apierantoni> quando riconfiguro phpmyadmin
[10:42] <gigirock> quando vuoi apierantoni :)
[10:42] <apierantoni> mi chiede il metodo di connessione
[10:42] <apierantoni> scelgo sock o ip?
[10:43] <gigirock> apierantoni, se 6 sullo stesso pc sock se sei remoto ip
[10:43] <apierantoni> utente mysql di phpmyadmin rinserisco root?
[10:43] <apierantoni> o lascio phpmyadmin?
[10:44] <gigirock> apierantoni, meglio root , a meno che phpmyadmin sia un'altra persona
[10:46] <apierantoni> gigirock: e Carlin0 grazie
[10:46] <apierantoni> sbasso: grazie anche a te:)
[10:46] <apierantoni> L'estensione mcrypt è mancante. Controlla la tua configurazione di PHP. <[10:47] <apierantoni> ignoro?
[10:53] <gigirock> apierantoni, non so cosa sia... sara' qualche lib di php
[11:12] <apierantoni> ultima cosa, ubuntu è su virtualbox
[11:12] <apierantoni> non riesco a vedere le cartelle condivise con windows (le ho abilitate dalle opzioni e ho le addicional gust etc installate
[11:22] <Jhonny> buongiorno a tutti, sto utilizzando Kubuntu 15, non riesco a installare ne chrome ne chromium, come mai?
[11:34] <mkjk> ragazzi
[11:34] <mkjk> aiutatemi
[11:35] <mkjk> sono due giorni che ubuntu sofware center mi crasha
[11:35] <mkjk> quando lo apro la schermata diventa tutta grigia e mi dice che ubuntu software center non risponde
[11:38] <mkjk> aiutoooooo
[12:02] <apierantoni> !vbox
[12:02] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox
[12:09] <blablabla> Ciao a tutti vorrei installare un emulatore android su ubuntu per giocare a clash of clans come posso fare?
[12:11] <ExPBoy> !chat | blablabla
[12:11] <ubot-it> blablabla: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[12:38] <apierantoni> buongiorno sto diventando pazzo per condividere una cartella di windows (sistema hosto) e ubuntu (sistema guest) ma non riesco, ho installato le addictional gust, ho condiviso la cartella e dato il comando sudo mount -t vboxsf C:\Users\Alessandro\Download /home/alessandro/Documenti e mi risponde sbin/mount.vboxsf: mounting failed with the error:
[12:38] <apierantoni> Protocol error
[12:41] <gigirock> apierantoni, ma quelle cartelle sono su due pc diversi o e' un sistema virtualizzato ?
[12:41] <apierantoni> sistema virtualizzato
[12:41] <gigirock> win7 ?
[12:42] <apierantoni> il pc vero è windows l'altro è ubuntu virtualizzato
[12:42] <apierantoni> no 10.1
[12:42] <gigirock> professional ?
[12:42] <apierantoni> purtroppo ho dovuto aggiornare x un cazzo di problema software gestionale
[12:42] <apierantoni> home
[12:43] <apierantoni> con il trascinamento biredizionale mi crash la macchina virtuale se ce lo trascino
[12:43] <gigirock> apierantoni, non dire parolacce.... cmq il sistema windows non e' cosi' felice di condividere le directory.......
[12:44] <gigirock> e poi le versioni home sono molto limitate a livello di rete
[12:44] <gigirock> ma tu vuoi usare la directory su windows per vedere ubuntu o viceversa ?
[12:45] <apierantoni> devo spostare dei file da win a ubuntu
[12:45] <apierantoni> sono circa 400 mega
[12:45] <ExPBoy> fai prima con una chiavetta
[12:46] <gigirock> ma lo devi fare una volta a mano o tutti i giorni
[12:46] <gigirock> apierantoni, adesso mi bannano , prendi winscp per windows e da li hai un file manager per ubuntu
[12:47] <apierantoni> :)
[12:47] <apierantoni> uso il consiglio della chiavetta
[12:47] <ExPBoy> eh
[12:47] <apierantoni> sperando che non serva più trasferire file
[12:47] <gigirock> apierantoni, pero' ti ripeto che le versioni home hanno limiti sulla gestione della rete
[12:47] <gigirock> apierantoni, usa il cavo laplink
[12:49] <apierantoni> grazie del avvertimento gigirock, quando ho ordinato i pc a noleggio avevo precisato win 7 profesisonal o 8.1 pro (con downgrade)
[12:49] <apierantoni> ma non posso picchiare ne asus ne tantomeno chi mi ha fornito l'allinone 23 pollici
[12:49] <gigirock> apierantoni, figo..... con schermo touch ?
[12:49] <apierantoni> che non mi ha nemmeno avvisato che non posso fare upgrade sulla macchina, pena decadenza della garanza
[12:50] <apierantoni> gigirock: no, senza touch, ho già il tablet, mi ci mancava pure lo schermo con il pollice... :D
[12:50] <apierantoni> però è un I5 quadcore 3 8 giga di ram
[12:51] <apierantoni> non posso aumentare nela ram ne mettere un ssd, che cazzo di machine asus
[12:51] <ExPBoy> ssshhh
[12:51] <apierantoni> ops perdonatemi
[12:52] <apierantoni> ora x il server ubuntu (in vbox sto facendo test) non so se comprarlo, noleggiarlo, oppure usare amazon... :)
[12:52] <ExPBoy> apierantoni, per le chiacchere sei sul chan sbagliato :)
[12:53] <Allm> ciao, da quando ho installato ubuntu 15.10 non funziona più amd catalyst control center, volevo sapere se c'è una soluzione. (mi serve perchè ho due schede video commutabili)
[12:54] <apierantoni> per abilitare la USB su il guset ubuntu devo scaricare qualcosa?
[13:27] <apierantoni> aribuongiorno, scusate per l'uscita di prima, ma si era terminato virtualbox
[13:27] <apierantoni> ho un problmea ancora con mysql, quando lancio una applicazione che usa mysql dice che non sembra avviato, ma se do start mi da ok
[13:28] <apierantoni> grep mysql dice che è listen...
[13:28] <apierantoni> ecco l'errore che mi da dopo che gli dico quale è l'utente e quali sono le pass (root e la sua pass) MySQL does not appear to be running. Please check you MySQL installation.
[14:08] <alfredd> ciao, devo concellare i vecchi kernel perchè non c'è più spazio per il nuovo aggiornamento. c'è qualcuno che mi aiuta per piacere? grazie.
[14:08] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | alfredd
[14:08] <ubot-it> alfredd: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[14:10] <alfredd> ciao, devo concellare i vecchi kernel perchè non c'è più spazio per il nuovo aggiornamento.
[14:12] <cristian_c> alfredd: hai finito lo spazio sulla partizione di sistema?
[14:12] <alfredd> penso di si.
[14:12] <cristian_c> alfredd: pensi?
[14:12] <alfredd> suppongo!
[14:13] <cristian_c> alfredd: volendo non è che recuperi tantissimo, eliminandoli
[14:13] <alfredd> ho alternative?
[14:13] <cristian_c> alfredd: ecco, non supporre, fai una verifica
[14:13] <alfredd> si va bene. cosa devo aprire per verificare?
[14:14] <cristian_c> alfredd: sì, se hai la partizione piena, disinstalla qualche applicazione. Quanto è larga la partizione?
[14:14] <alfredd> non so dove andare a vedere!
[14:14] <alfredd> mi diresti come fare per piacere?
[14:15] <cristian_c> alfredd: la prima cosa che puoi fare è dare un'occhiata alle info di stato nel file manager
[14:16] <alfredd> e dove lo trovo il file manager?
[14:16] <cristian_c> alfredd: come accedi ai tuoi dati su ubuntu?
[14:16] <alfredd> non lo so.
[14:16] <alfredd> (non accedo mai ai miei dati.)
[14:17] <cristian_c> alfredd: non hai dati personali su quell'hard disk?
[14:17] <cristian_c> utilizzi solo il browser?
[14:17] <alfredd> uso solo un hard disk esterno.
[14:17] <cristian_c> ottimo
[14:18] <alfredd> perchè questo che ho sul laptop è piccolissimo
[14:18] <alfredd> ho solo qualche file sul desktop
[14:18] <cristian_c> alfredd: e come accedi ai dati sull'hard disk esterno?
[14:19] <alfredd> via usb. forse ho capito. il file manager è l'icona del cassettone-archivio?
[14:21] <cristian_c> non so cosa intendi con 'archivio', ma se accedi ai tuoi file su hard disk esterno aprirai per forza il file manager
[14:21] <cristian_c> alfredd: quindi, posta una schermata
[14:21] <alfredd> scusa, ma non ho capito. facciamo un passo indietro.
[14:21] <alfredd> come apro il file manager?
[14:21] <cristian_c> alfredd: nello stesso modo in cui accedi al disco esterno
[14:22] <alfredd> ma io non accedo al disco esterno. lo connetto via usb e si apre una schermata in automatico
[14:23] <alfredd> forse intendi la cartella dove c'è la voce "Dispositivi - Computer"?
[14:24] <cristian_c> alfredd: ecco, accedi a quella schermata
[14:24] <alfredd> ok. l'ho aperta.
[14:24] <alfredd> ci sono tante cartelle!!!
[14:24] <cristian_c> !image | alfredd
[14:24] <ubot-it> alfredd: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[14:31] <alfredd> http://imgur.com/QYNpKMa
[14:31] <alfredd> così va bene?
[14:31] <cristian_c> alfredd: ok, ma deseleziona 'boot'
[14:31] <cristian_c> e riposta una nuova scheemata
[14:33] <alfredd> http://imgur.com/f39LiqL
[14:33] <alfredd> va bene?
[14:34] <cristian_c> alfredd: page not found
[14:34] <cristian_c> alfredd: pupi ricontrollare il link?
[14:35] <alfredd> http://imgur.com/5RQNri5
[14:36] <alfredd> scusa un emergenza. torno tra poco...
[15:02] <cristian_c> alfredd: ok, pare non ci sia la barra di stato
[15:09] <cristian_c> alfredd: puoi postare una schermata di gparted?
[16:07] <Barbone> Il kernel sono riuscito a cancellarlo si può ricaricare
[16:11] <cristian_c> Barbone: sei alfredd?
[16:11] <Barbone> Come rimontare il kernel?
[16:11] <Barbone> No
[16:12] <cristian_c> Barbone: che kernel hai cancellato?
[16:12] <cristian_c> c'è un contesto?
[16:12] <Barbone> Non so quello che avevo mi da panic
[16:13] <cristian_c> Barbone: e allora perché lo vuoi 'rimontare'?
[16:14] <Barbone> Stavo aggiornando a 15.10 ma si e bloccato tutto prima mi dava il grub ora non piu
[16:15] <cristian_c> Barbone: e allora perché lo vuoi 'rimontare'?
[16:16] <Barbone> Mi chiede di reload il kernel
[16:17] <cristian_c> Barbone: chi te lo chiede?
[16:17] <Carlin0> !dettagli
[16:17] <ubot-it> Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[16:18] <Barbone> Nelle righe che appaiono ottengo un output così error: you need to load the kernel first
[16:20] <Barbone> Sono collegato con il cavo ed ho sempre avuto asus x54c con ubuntu residente e basta
[16:22] <krabador> !ripristino | Barbone
[16:22] <ubot-it> Barbone: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[16:25] <Barbone> Sono andato a leggere ma non mi da la riga di comando come faccio a dare i comandi?
[16:25] <Carlin0> Barbone, leggi bene
[16:26] <Carlin0> è una settimana che giri con sta storia anche se cambi nick
[16:26] <cristian_c> Barbone: come l'hai eliminato 'sto kernel?
[16:28] <Barbone> Cercando di farlo partire probabilmente ho tentato di pulire la memoria ed ho ottenuto altro che cancellazione del kernel
[16:28] <cristian_c> Barbone: essere così vago però non ti aiuta a farti aiutare
[16:29] <krabador> Barbone, scarica ubuntu, o 14.04 o 15.10 , fai dvd o pendrive, fai partire in boot, fai partire installazione, quando ti chiede dove installare, selezioni "altro" e selezioni la root del vecchio sistema
[16:29] <krabador> ti assicuri che NON sia spuntata per la formattazione
[16:29] <krabador> vai avanti
[16:29] <krabador> crei altro utente
[16:29] <krabador> ed al riavvio ti sposti tutti i dati
[16:29] <krabador> that's it.
[16:30] <Barbone> La macchina ha un Intel celeron cpu b815 1.60ghz
[16:30] <krabador> Barbone, leggi i messaggi che ti ho scritto.
[16:30] <krabador> !usbwin | Barbone
[16:30] <ubot-it> Barbone: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[16:30] <krabador> !iso | Barbone
[16:30] <ubot-it> Barbone: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[16:30] <krabador> !installazione | Barbone
[16:30] <ubot-it> Barbone: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione | Per installazione grafica http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/Grafica | Si consiglia la visione della guida ufficiale in inglese http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[16:31] <krabador> hai tutte le informazioni che ti servono adesso
[16:32] <Barbone> Sono da iPad e vado un po' lento non posso leggere nell'asus ovviamente e devo trasferire a mano i comandi che adesso leggero grazie
[16:38] <Barbone> Ora sono entrato nel grub che comandi devo dare per installare ubuntu?
[16:39] <krabador> Barbone, leggi i messaggi di prima
[16:39] <krabador> Barbone, se hai voglia di ignorare i messaggi che ti si inviano, cerca di passare meglio il tuo tempo.
[16:40] <Barbone> Si li ho letti un po' velocemente ma restano per me poco chiari scusate
[16:40] <cristian_c> Barbone: allora leggi meno velocemente
[16:41] <cristian_c> che le cose vanno lette, per essere capite
[16:44] <alfredd> cristian_c: scusa ho avuto un problema con mio figlio
[16:44] <alfredd> possiamo riprendere?
[16:45] <alfredd> ho letto che mi hai scritto di gparted..
[16:45] <Barbone> Certo avete ragione ma sono molto poco esperto e l'approccio al computer con residente ubuntu come l'ho comperato e sempre andato ora non riesco a seguire i vostri consigli
[16:47] <cristian_c> alfredd: sì
[16:47] <krabador> Barbone, cio' che ti è stato segnalato , è al limite dell'elementare
[16:47] <cristian_c> alfredd: puoi postare una schermata?
[16:47] <krabador> Barbone, ed ormai circa una decina di volte, negli ultimi giorni
[16:47] <krabador> Barbone, posso solo consigliarti di farti affiancare da un amico con un po' piu' di esperinza
[16:48] <krabador> Barbone, o di rivolgerti ad un centro assistenza, e visto che facilmente non conoscono linux, riportargli le istruzioni che ti sono state date.
[16:49] <alfredd> l'ho trovato in ubuntu software center. lo installo?
[16:49] <cristian_c> alfredd: allora, no
[16:49] <alfredd> ok.
[16:50] <alfredd> come si fa a vedere come sta messo il mio HD?
[16:50] <cristian_c> alfredd: apri un terminale e digita: df -h
[16:50] <Barbone> Ho provato con un amico ma non abbiamo cavato il ragno da un buco
[16:50] <cristian_c> !paste | alfredd
[16:50] <ubot-it> alfredd: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:52] <krabador> Barbone, chiamane un altro, magari sarai piu' fortunato
Barbone, o di rivolgerti ad un centro assistenza, e visto che facilmente non conoscono linux, riportargli le istruzioni che ti sono state date.
[16:52] <Carlin0> meglio un'amica Barbone
[16:54] <alfredd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217001/
[16:55] <alfredd> cristian_c: se non capisco male per la partizione di boot ho solo 236M?!?!?
[16:55] <cristian_c> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root 54G 7,4G 44G 15% /
[16:55] <Carlin0> alfredd, era meglio se non la facevi
[16:55] <cristian_c> alfredd: hai una partizione boot separata?
[16:55] <alfredd> non l'ho fatta io.
[16:55] <alfredd> ho eseguito il cd di ubuntu
[16:56] <Carlin0> /dev/sda1 236M 207M 17M 93% /boot
[16:56] <alfredd> mannaggia.
[16:56] <alfredd> che scocciatura. dopo pochi aggiornamenti mi dice che non c'è spazio!!
[16:56] <alfredd> non si può allargare?
[16:57] <Carlin0> alfredd, la cosa + semplice è rimuovere i vecchi kernel
[16:58] <alfredd> ecco. è quello che ho chieso fin dall'inizio!!
[16:58] <krabador> alfredd, chi ti ha fatto fare una boot separata?
[16:58] <krabador> alfredd, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:58] <krabador> alfredd, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[16:59] <alfredd> e l'ho scritto che non lo so. ho installato il cd di ubuntu e ha fatto tutto da solo.
[17:00] <alfredd> scusa krabador il primo comando "sudo-apt...." lo devo inviare?
[17:00] <krabador> alfredd, lo vuoi lasciar stare a fluttuare nel terminale?
[17:00] <krabador> alfredd, copia , incolla invia
[17:01] <krabador> il secondo restituisce un link
[17:01] <krabador> che devi incollare qui
[17:02] <alfredd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217071/
[17:02] <krabador> no
[17:02] <krabador> alfredd, solo il link del seconod
[17:02] <krabador> susu
[17:02] <krabador> che la vita è breve
[17:03] <alfredd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217077/
[17:03] <alfredd> ehm, a chi lo dici....!!
[17:04] <krabador> lo dico a te, se perdi tempo con le indicazioni
[17:05] <alfredd> eh si... vabeh lasciamo stare..
[17:05] <krabador> alfredd, sudo apt-get remove --purge , e copi e incolli tutti quelli tranne 63 e 65
[17:05] <krabador> alfredd, invio
[17:05] <krabador> alfredd, lasciamo stare cosa?
[17:06] <alfredd> scusa, questo ultimo comando sul terminale non mi da questi numeri che mi hai indicato.
[17:07] <krabador> alfredd, apri il link
[17:08] <krabador> hai una lista
[17:08] <alfredd> no
[17:08] <krabador> scrivi nel terminale sudo apt-get remove --purge
[17:08] <krabador> alfredd, apri
[17:08] <krabador> alfredd, il
[17:08] <krabador> alfredd, link
[17:08] <alfredd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217145/
[17:08] <alfredd> non c'è nessun link
[17:09] <krabador> alfredd, ok trolli
[17:09] <krabador> in bocca al lupo
[17:09] <alfredd> scusa ma che stai dicendo?
[17:09] <alfredd> non ti capisco più!
[17:09] <krabador> alfredd, che stai dicendo tu
[17:09] <alfredd> non c'è nessun link!
[17:09] <krabador> "apri il link " ---> si intende l'ultimo che mi hai mandato
[17:09] <krabador> non uno a caso
[17:10] <alfredd> sul terminale il tuo comando mi da la risposta che ti ho postato con pastebin!
http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217077/
[17:10] <krabador> apri questo
[17:10] <krabador> scrivi sul terminale
[17:10] <alfredd> e dove l'hai preso?
[17:10] <krabador> alfredd, e lo domandi a me?
[17:11] <alfredd> ah, è uno di quelli che ti ho postato io!!!
[17:11] <alfredd> ora ho capito!
[17:11] <krabador> alle 18:03 l'hai postato tu, come risultato del comando che ti ho fatto dare
[17:11] <krabador> ooooh
[17:11] <krabador> bene
[17:11] <alfredd> l'ho aperto!
[17:11] <krabador> hai una lista
[17:11] <alfredd> scusa.
[17:11] <krabador> scrivi in terminale
[17:11] <alfredd> si
[17:11] <krabador> sudo apt-get remove --purge
[17:12] <alfredd> si
[17:12] <krabador> e poi a fianco incolli tutti linux-image e linux-image-extra, che alla fine non abbiano 63 e 65
[17:12] <krabador> poi mandi invio
[17:13] <alfredd> ok ora ho capito.
[17:13] <krabador> alfredd, tutti separati da un apposito spazio
[17:13] <alfredd> ok. però ho alcune domande
[17:14] <krabador> alfredd, sudo apt-get remove --purge linea1 linea2 linea3
[17:14] <krabador> eccetear
[17:14] <krabador> che c'è di strano?
[17:14] <alfredd> le linee hanno diverse colonne
[17:15] <alfredd> ii linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic 3.13.0-52.86 i386 Linux kernel image for version 3.13.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
[17:15] <krabador> alfredd, ...
[17:15] <krabador> allora
[17:15] <alfredd> devo copiarla tutte?
[17:15] <krabador> solo il nome del kernel
[17:15] <alfredd> anche la iiù
[17:15] <krabador> altro mi spieghi a che ti interessa?
[17:15] <krabador> ma no
[17:15] <krabador> solo
[17:15] <krabador> il
[17:15] <krabador> nome
[17:15] <krabador> del
[17:16] <jonnyyyyyy> hello
[17:16] <jonnyyyyyy> !list
[17:16] <ubot-it> questo non è un canale per scaricare o di condivisione di contenuti
[17:16] <krabador> o jonnyyyyyy ma veramente ?
[17:16] <jonnyyyyyy> ???
[17:16] <krabador> !senti > jonnyyyyyy
[17:16] <ubot-it> jonnyyyyyy, please see my private message
[17:16] <alfredd> scusa krabador non ti spazientire. io non ci capisco niente!!
[17:17] <alfredd> allora scrivo solo per ogni linea ad es la prima: linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic
[17:17] <jonnyyyyyy> dimmi
[17:17] <krabador> alfredd, linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic linux-image-3.13.0-53-generic
[17:17] <krabador> alfredd, e cosi' via
[17:17] <alfredd> ok
[17:18] <jonnyyyyyy> x la lista???
[17:19] <esulu> ciao a tutti
[17:19] <krabador> !ciao | esulu
[17:19] <ubot-it> esulu: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[17:20] <esulu> come faccio usando chown a dare root al goruppo di una directory e anche tutti i file che stanno dentro automaticamente
[17:20] <esulu> io uso chown root:root /vartella/*
[17:20] <tux75> salve room. ho fatto qualcosa di sbagliato e ora la mia ubuntu non vede più i segnali della wlan0. in pratica posso collegarmi col cavo, ma il mio notebook non vede più i segnali wireless.
[17:20] <esulu> ma se ho altre cartelle sotto la cartella non prendono root
[17:21] <tux75> da un iwconfig però leggo wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn ESSID:off/any...
[17:21] <krabador> tux75, "ho fatto qualcosa di sbagliato" ---> tipo ?
[17:21] <cristian_c> esulu: devi usare i numeri
[17:21] <cristian_c> !permessi | esulu
[17:21] <ubot-it> esulu: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/PermessiFile
[17:21] <tux75> krabador, non so di preciso. ho provato ad editare /etc/network interfaces, ma col sistema dei commenti, quando ho visto che non funzionava l'ho ripristinato, e quindi non dovrebbe essere quello.
[17:22] <tux75> non so bene la causa, ma o è colpa mia o è colpa sua.. :D
[17:22] <esulu> cristian_c: chmod -R 777 /cartella ?
[17:22] <krabador> "l'ho ripristinato" ---> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit
[17:23] <cristian_c> esulu: il -R o -r si applica a tutte le sottodirectory
[17:23] <alfredd> krabador: il 15° rigo c'è un image-generic senza numero: "linux-image-generic"
[17:23] <alfredd> inserisco pure questo nel comando?
[17:23] <cristian_c> esulu: 777 se guardi è equivalente a lettura+scrittura+esecuzione
[17:23] <krabador> alfredd, solo quelli con i numeri
[17:23] <krabador> alfredd, quello lascialo star
[17:23] <alfredd> ok
[17:23] <krabador> alfredd, lascia 63 e 65
[17:24] <krabador> di entrambi i tipi
[17:24] <alfredd> si
[17:25] <alfredd> non si può fare niente per allargare quella partizione?
[17:25] <cristian_c> alfredd: beh, se hai spazio libero adiacente, sì
[17:25] <krabador> tu manda il comando , tieni sempre gli ultimi 2 kernel
[17:25] <cristian_c> se puoi ridurre senza danni quella adiacenteù
[17:25] <krabador> e di tanto in tanto manda sudo apt-get -y autoremove
[17:26] <esulu> cristian_c: chown -R root:root /cartella giusto ?
[17:26] <krabador> alfredd, semplicemente non servono piu' di 2 kernel , in assenza di problemi evidenti dopo l'aggiornamento
[17:27] <alfredd> ho capito.
[17:27] <alfredd> il terminale ha finito l'operazione.
[17:27] <krabador> alfredd, ha dato errori?
[17:28] <alfredd> non lo so. non ho avuto nessun avviso. ma sul terminale è una sequenza di scritte incomprensibili per me!!
[17:28] <krabador> fa il pastebin
[17:29] <krabador> l'hai fatto inutilmente, all'inizio, adesso è il momento giusto
[17:29] <krabador> :)
[17:30] <alfredd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217329/
[17:30] <alfredd> eccolo
[17:31] <krabador> alfredd, rimossi i kernel. hai altre domande ?
[17:31] <tux75> krabador, il file è questo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217296/
[17:31] <tux75> però ho visto che riavviando la questione ha ripreso suo malgrado a funzionare.
[17:32] <krabador> tux75, è personalizzato
[17:32] <alfredd> perfetto. allora ora posso aggiornare il sistema?
[17:32] <krabador> tux75, carica un kernel precedente di ubuntu, da grub, la schermata che hai all'avvio della macchina
[17:32] <krabador> tux75, seconda opzione dall'alto, e poi penultimo kernel, senza voce recovery
[17:32] <krabador> vedi se hai problemi
[17:33] <krabador> alfredd, sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:33] <krabador> alfredd, sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[17:33] <alfredd> il primo o il secondo?
[17:34] <krabador> alfredd, che domanda è?
[17:34] <krabador> vediamo se intuisci.
[17:34] <alfredd> mi hai dato due comandi!!
[17:34] <krabador> alfredd, perchè ho voglia di scrivere?
[17:35] <tux75> krabador, adesso sono connesso con wireless, però mi dovresti aiutare a fare un paio di cose: 1. quando sono connesso con wireless, se disconnetto il wireless (supponiamo perché mi sposto ad area di casa non coperta), se voglio collegarmi col cavo devo dare comandi da terminale: ifconfig eth0 up && route add default gw 192.168.1.1 sennò non va.
[17:35] <alfredd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217375/
[17:36] <krabador> tux75, prova a vedere se non va
[17:36] <krabador> tux75, anche caricando il kernel precedente
[17:36] <alfredd> dice "impossibile recuperare..."
[17:36] <alfredd> vado anche col secondo comando?
[17:36] <tux75> ok, ci provo e ti faccio sapere.
[17:37] <krabador> alfredd, hai fatto il pastebin a mano, del primo?
[17:37] <alfredd> no
[17:37] <alfredd> è uscito direttamente nel terminale
[17:37] <alfredd> alla fine dell'operazione
[17:37] <krabador> alfredd, fa il pastebin a mano della parte "impossibile..."
[17:39] <alfredd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217398/
[17:39] <krabador> alfredd, software-properties-gtk
[17:40] <krabador> alfredd, nel menu a tendina "carica da" metti quelli principali internazionali
[17:40] <krabador> chiudi correttamente la finestra
[17:40] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:40] <alfredd> aspetta. non ho capito.
[17:40] <alfredd> quale menu a tendina?
[17:40] <krabador> alfredd, sveglia
[17:41] <krabador> hai mandato software-properties-gtk ?
[17:41] <alfredd> si. ecco ora ha finito
[17:43] <alfredd> allora: qui nella finestra che si è aperta c'è il menu a tendina del codice sorgente "scaricare da:"
[17:43] <krabador> non del codice sorgente
[17:44] <krabador> repositories, "scaricare da"
[17:44] <krabador> quello, ha 3 voci
[17:44] <krabador> metti server principale , non quello italiano
[17:45] <tux75> allora, krabador rieccomi: intanto tutti i miei kernel precedenti hanno la versione editata di /etc/network/interfaces. Poi ho fatto la prova: partendo connesso con LAN la rete cablata funziona bene. se voglio passare in wireless questo funziona bene, ma se volessi ritornare alla connessione lan mi dice: "Network Unreacheble"
[17:45] <alfredd> siamo nella sezione "Software per Ubuntu"
[17:45] <alfredd> a fine pagina c'è "scaricare da:"
[17:46] <alfredd> qui devo selezionare server principale?
[17:46] <alfredd> e devo inserire la password?
[17:47] <krabador> tux75, disabilita e riabilita la rete
[17:47] <krabador> dal task in alto a destra
[17:47] <krabador> alfredd, cambia il repo
[17:47] <krabador> fa quello che ti chiede, chiudi correttametne la finestra
[17:47] <krabador> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:47] <alfredd> krabador: scusa ora ho notato che all'ultimo comando segnala ERROR
[17:47] <krabador> alfredd, non ho tutta la notte
[17:47] <alfredd> te lo posto?
[17:48] <krabador> alfredd, cambia il repo, chiudi quella finestra e da sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:48] <tux75> che vuol dire disabilita e riabilita dal task in alto a destra?
[17:48] <tux75> che task è?
[17:48] <krabador> tux75, che ubuntu stai usando ?
[17:48] <tux75> kubuntu
[17:48] <krabador> tux75, questo va detto prima
[17:48] <tux75> o meglio una ubuntu con
[17:49] <tux75> su cui ho messo kde
[17:49] <krabador> tux75, <tux75> salve room. ho fatto qualcosa di sbagliato e ora la mia ubuntu non vede più i segnali della wlan0. in pratica posso collegarmi col cavo, ma il mio notebook non vede più i segnali wireless.
[17:49] <krabador> tux75, se dici ubuntu, io posso segnalarti in base al suo ambiente grafico
[17:49] <tux75> beh è una ubuntu, ma gli ho messo kde.. non è la fine del mondo. cmq ok, ho capito l'antifona.
[17:49] <krabador> tux75, riavvia, carica la sessione con unity
[17:50] <krabador> tux75, non è la fine del mondo per te che lo sai e non devi star a segnalare comandi / consigli di assistenza
[17:50] <tux75> uff e pensare che io ho messo kde perché odio unity :D
[17:50] <krabador> tux75, se il medico ti chiede una cosa, che fai , gli dai mezze informazioni?
[17:50] <tux75> basta riavviare il login?
[17:50] <krabador> tux75, carica per favore unity
[17:50] <krabador> riavvia la macchina
[17:50] <tux75> ok.
[17:50] <krabador> riproponi lo stesso scenario
[17:50] <alfredd> krabador: ho cambiato il server in principale, ma mi apre una seconda finestra quando chiudo la prima. ti posto quello che c'è scritto
[17:50] <krabador> e vai con Dio
[17:51] <krabador> no
[17:51] <krabador> alfredd, no
[17:51] <krabador> chiudi direttametne
[17:51] <krabador> alfredd, ce la fai a fare direttamente quello che ti viene detto?
[17:51] <alfredd> e dice ricarica, o chiudi?
[17:51] <krabador> alfredd, mi vuoi dire
[17:51] <krabador> io
[17:51] <krabador> cosa ti ho chiesto di fare?
[17:52] <alfredd> hai detto chiudere.
[17:52] <krabador> e allora?
[17:52] <alfredd> ok
[17:52] <krabador> devo venire a chiudere io?
[17:54] <alfredd> chiuso. ora ho inviato in terminale di nuovo sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[17:54] <alfredd> sta elaborando
[17:55] <alfredd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217506/
[17:55] <krabador> alfredd, nessun errore?
[17:55] <alfredd> no.
[17:55] <krabador> alfredd, sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[17:55] <alfredd> ha dato solo il link a paste
[17:57] <krabador> alfredd, puo' metterci tempo
[17:57] <alfredd> si
[17:57] <alfredd> sta lavorando
[17:58] <alfredd> cos'è il comando che fa l'aggiornamento?
[17:58] <krabador> si
[17:59] <alfredd> capito.
[17:59] <Rambo> Sera a tutti, ho una domanda che mi sto facendo da un po, è possibile far partire un live di una distro senza metterla su dvd o pendrive? ho notato che da unetbootin c'è l opzione, ne sapete qualcosa? se si fa una partizione si potrebbe anche installarla direttamente? secondo voi è fattibile?
[18:01] <alfredd> krabador: mi hanno consigliato di installare una versione più leggera.
[18:01] <alfredd> mi pare Lubuntu
[18:01] <alfredd> (o forse Kubuntu non ricordo bene.)
[18:02] <krabador> kubuntu non è piu' leggera
[18:02] <alfredd> perchè ho un laptop di 10 anni fa. un giga di ram e un processore vecchio.
[18:02] <alfredd> ah allora Lubuntu?
[18:02] <krabador> alfredd, elenca cpu , quantitativo di ram, e scheda video
[18:03] <krabador> Rambo, "se si fa una partizione" ---> le istallazioni normalissime finiscono in partizionio
[18:03] <krabador> Rambo, te la stai facendo da un po' , questa domanda, per quale motivo di scenario?
[18:04] <Rambo> cosi, solo perche mi piace provare
[18:05] <Rambo> per la partizione la dovrei fare solo da live?
[18:05] <alfredd> Intel® Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz; ram 992,8 MiB; Grafica Intel® 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[18:05] <krabador> alfredd, lubuntu
[18:05] <alfredd> perfetto.
[18:05] <alfredd> cosa devo fare per passare da ubuntu a lubuntu?
[18:05] <krabador> Rambo, se vuoi installare un sistema operativo, un supporto di installazione deve partire nella macchina
[18:06] <krabador> alfredd, reinstallare
[18:06] <Rambo> krabador l ultima parte non l ho capita tanto xD
[18:07] <krabador> !chat | Rambo
[18:07] <ubot-it> Rambo: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[18:07] <Rambo> ok grazie e scusatemi
[18:10] <alfredd> ho capito. ma secondo te seguendo le istruzioni per l'installazione di lubuntu in automatico avrò una partizione per boot di nuovo piccola come quella che ho ora?
[18:11] <krabador> alfredd, no
[18:11] <krabador> non criptare niente
[18:11] <krabador> e non succede nulla
[18:12] <alfredd> criptare?
[18:12] <alfredd> io mica cripto!!
[18:13] <krabador> non ti ho accoltellato un figlio , non ti scaldare
[18:20] <alfredd> in lubuntu c'è libreoffice?
[18:20] <akis24> alfredd: stessi programmi di ubuntu
[18:20] <alfredd> ah bene.
[18:21] <alfredd> senti qui ha finito. questo ì il paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13217666/
[18:21] <akis24> alfredd: e comunque se non trovi qualcosa preinstallato dai repo li installi
[18:21] <alfredd> e posso sempre accedere al vostro supporto via chat?
[18:21] <akis24> alfredd: bene ha finito .. si che puoi accedere
[18:22] <alfredd> ok grazie ragazzi, per il supporto e tutti gli interventi. siete gentilissimi.
[18:23] <alfredd> buona serata.
[18:23] <akis24> grazie a krabador ...
[18:23] <alfredd> grazie a krabador a cristian_c e a te...
[18:23] <akis24> figurati ..
[18:23] <alfredd> a tutti. prima ho visto che ha risposto anche un altro nick che ricordo c'è sempre in chat.
[18:24] <alfredd> ciao
[18:24] <akis24> ciao
[19:27] <faber17> ciao a tutti, qualcuno di voi ha mai usato l'applicazione parawiev? mi crasha appena la lancio dandomi il messaggio "illegal instruction (core dumped)"
[19:38] <cristian_c> !info paraview
[19:38] <ubot-it> paraview (source: paraview): Parallel Visualization Application. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.1.0+dfsg+1-2build1 (wily), package size 40521 kB, installed size 170486 kB
[19:39] <cristian_c> faber17: apri un terminale
[19:45] <cristian_c> lol
[19:54] <cristian_c> esulu: non ricevo privati
[19:54] <cristian_c> esulu: scrivi nel canale per il supporto
[19:54] <esulu> ho migrato joomla sul ubuntu server
[19:55] <esulu> m ifunzioan tutto tranne che non riesco piu ad accedere a back end m ida la pagina bianca
[19:55] <esulu> volevo sapere se devo settare qualche cosa in particolare sul server apache d iubuntu server
[19:55] <esulu> qualcuno di voi ha mai avuto modo di fare questo?
[19:58] <cristian_c> esulu: completamente bianca?
[19:58] <esulu> si
[19:59] <esulu> completamente bianca prima ho provato a vedere i permessi e ti dico ormai ho datto RW a tutto
[19:59] <esulu> ma no nho risolto niente :-(
[20:02] <cristian_c> esulu: magari spiega esattamente tutto quello che hai fatto
[20:03] <cristian_c> per filo e per segno
[20:04] <esulu> server A quello di partenza server B quello di arrivo parliamo di due server ubuntu. Primo passo fare il backup di tutti DB dal server A
[20:05] <esulu> importare tutti DB in mysql server B,
[20:05] <esulu> creare un virtaul host sul server B esattamente come server A
[20:06] <esulu> migrare la cartella che conteneva tutto joomla dal server A al server B
[20:07] <esulu> usando il link sul server B funzioa tutto tutte le pagine si vedono e questo mi fa pensare che i vari db importati funzionano
[20:07] <esulu> ma quando vado http://ip/administrator/login
[20:07] <esulu> mett ouser name e password
[20:07] <esulu> mi si apre una pagina bianca e basta
[20:07] <esulu> secondo te posso esaminare qualche log
[20:07] <esulu> in particolare
[20:07] <esulu> che ne dici?
[20:12] <cristian_c> esulu: ah, ok, quindi apache funziona
[20:13] <esulu> cristian_c: si apache2 funziona
[20:13] <esulu> assolutamente
[20:19] <esulu> cristian_c: è un casino giusto?
[20:38] <Retlawb> buona sera
[20:38] <Retlawb> Ho un problema con un'istallazione in dualboot con win10 ed ubuntu 15.10
[20:39] <Retlawb> installo ubuntu, in modo automatico dopo avergli creato spazio tolto il secure boot etc etc
[20:39] <Retlawb> tutto funziona-
[20:39] <Retlawb> quando riavvio parte il grub
[20:40] <Retlawb> perfetto.
[20:40] <Retlawb> dopo qualche tempo, al riavvio non parte + il grup ma win10.
[20:40] <Retlawb> why?
[20:41] <Retlawb> al win10 ho disabilitato la partenza veloce
[20:42] <Retlawb> se da win 10 faccio lo start "speciale" trovo la boot linux facendo partire ubuntu regolarmente
[20:44] <Retlawb> con grub.
[20:44] <Retlawb> se riavvio, patre sempre e solo win10
[20:45] <Retlawb> Ovviamente non sono un esperto e per tanto chiedo il vostro aiuto
[20:47] <Retlawb> Ringrazio fin da ora per l'aiuto e la pazienza
[20:51] <Retlawb> cosa o dove sbaglio?
[20:56] <Retlawb> qualcuno può darmi qualche dritta?
[21:05] <Retlawb> ?
[21:08] <Carlin0> Retlawb, non conosco uefi , ma guarda le impostazioni di boot nel bios
[21:14] <noob95> Buonasera!
[21:15] <noob95> Qualsiasi sistema con kernel ubuntu che monto mi da' il classico problema di driver con la mia scheda video AMD.
[21:15] <noob95> Mi legge come prima cosa due schede (Seymour e Beavercreek), ma Xubuntu (ad esempio) non mi fornisce la possibilità di scegliere i driver proprietari amd per leggerle
[21:16] <noob95> Come posso risolvere? Ho saputo che su 15.10 non c'è ancora il Catalyst funzionante
[21:17] <Retlawb> di fatto a installazione fresca tutto funziona, cosa succede dopo?
[21:17] <noob95> Finisco l'installazione, lancio Xubuntu e si spegne lo schermo.
[21:18] <noob95> Lancio in Recovery e mi monta dei driver con palesi problemi dato che la risoluzione scende di parecchio
[21:18] <noob95> In Kubuntu risolvevo andando sul Driver Manager e segnando (infinite volte, perchè me lo chiedeva sempre finchè non chiudevo io) fglrx su Beavercreek e fglrx-update su Seymour
[21:19] <noob95> Su Xubuntu però il problema persiste e non riesco a montare i driver
[21:22] <noob95> (domanda velocissima: è vero che nella 15.10 i driver AMD "fglrx" non funzionano vero? Perchè se no ho ulteriori problemi con le nuove versioni)
[21:23] <Carlin0> noob95, a quanto ho sentito ci sono de problemi coi driver pacchettizzati deb
[21:23] <Carlin0> fglrx
[21:24] <noob95> Ti ringrazio Carlin0. Sapresti consigliarmi allora qualche soluzione? Purtroppo (o per fortuna) all'Università ci hanno imposto di utilizzare sistemi Linux
[21:24] <noob95> ma è da più di due mesi che impazzisco con il mio portatile (Toshiba Satellite 750D-1G8) perchè non monta NESSUN sistema Ubuntu SENZA PROBLEMI.
[21:25] <noob95> Con Kubuntu avevo risolto montando i Driver Proprietari manualmente, ma il KDE mi crea problemi elevati (Plasma crasha in continuazione, la RAM è sempre al massimo)
[21:25] <Carlin0> noob95, non uso quella scheda quindi non saprei , infatti per quello ho detto "ho sentito"
[21:25] <Carlin0> noob95, ma che scheda video è di preciso ?
[21:26] <noob95> Rispondo subito
[21:26] <Carlin0> kde5 è ancora immaturo
[21:26] <Carlin0> se devi installare kubuntu vai sulla 14.04
[21:26] <noob95> AMD Radeon™ HD 6640G2 Dual Graphics
[21:27] <noob95> Ma è una APU, CPU e GPU insieme
[21:27] <Carlin0> a8 a6 ... qualcosa di simile insomma
[21:27] <noob95> Sisi A8 precisa
[21:28] <noob95> Il problema è: Mint è troppo lento per i lavori che faccio, Ubuntu non monta.
[21:28] <Carlin0> meno male :P avevo idea di comprarne una LOL
[21:28] <noob95> Ahahaha felice di esserti stato utile!
[21:28] <Carlin0> noob95, se hai detto che con kubuntu risolvevi prova con il 14.04
[21:28] <noob95> Non so per altre versioni, ma la mia ha dato solo problemi.
[21:29] <Carlin0> ma non oltre , quelli dopo hanno kde5 che è ancora immaturo
[21:29] <noob95> Ho notato!
[21:29] <noob95> Ti ringrazio per l'aiuto!
[21:29] <noob95> Anzi, VI ringrazio :)
[21:29] <Carlin0> figurati :o)
[21:55] <Retlawb> qualche idea?
[21:56] <Retlawb> qualche suggerimento?
[21:59] <Retlawb> buona serata
[22:15] <wuolfit> ciao a tutti belli e brutti
[22:15] <wuolfit> il mio problema e' questo ho 2 pc linux collegati alla stessa rete....quello che vorrei fare e' : metre uso il pc1 collegandomi via ssh al pc2 vorrei eseguire un programma nel pc2 il cui gui grafico viene visualizzato nel pc1. So che esiste il comando export display ma che sintassi devo usare???? e quali sono i comandi da usare nel pc1 (quello che uso io) e quali sono quelli da usare nel pc2 (quello remoto)????
[22:18] <Matte-o> Hola
[22:18] <wuolfit> ciao matteo
[22:18] <Matte-o> Ho riscontrato un problemuccio durante la fase di booting, potreste aiutarmi?
[22:19] <wuolfit> che tipo di problema?
[22:19] <Matte-o> Non riesco a far partire il cd con il file iso di ubuntu
[22:20] <Matte-o> continua a dirmi di inserire un device ma io ce l'ho messo, ho provato anche con altri so ma mi da lo stesso problema
[22:20] <Carlin0> Matte-o, come lo hai masterizzato ?
[22:21] <Matte-o> con il maserizzatore del pc
[22:21] <Carlin0> a parte che ci va un dvd e non u cd
[22:21] <Matte-o> per questo chido
[22:21] <wuolfit> 1 come hai masterizzato il cd???? spiego la domanda hai creato un cd dati con l'iso dentro o hai aperto l'iso con un programma di masterizzazione ed hai creato un disco?
[22:21] <Matte-o> non si puo fare da cd?
[22:21] <Carlin0> Matte-o, ma come dati o come immagine ?
[22:22] <Matte-o> ho fatto un cd dati
[22:22] <Carlin0> !iso | Matte-o segui questa guida
[22:22] <ubot-it> Matte-o segui questa guida: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviPartizioni/MasterizzareIso
[22:22] <wuolfit> ecco bravo fallo dall'immagine
[22:22] <Matte-o> mhh
[22:22] <wuolfit> il cd dati con dentro l'iso non funziona
[22:22] <wuolfit> hai sbagliato la procedura di masterizzazione
[22:22] <Carlin0> e ci va un dvd
[22:22] <Matte-o> ho provato anche wind os ma da lo stesso problema
[22:22] <Matte-o> wins
[22:23] <Carlin0> Matte-o, leggi la guida
[22:23] <Matte-o> ti stop dicendo che ho fatto uguale
[22:23] <Carlin0> io dico dinoo
[22:23] <wuolfit> devi aprire l'iso con un programma di masterizzazione mettere un dvd nel masterizzatore e masterizzare
[22:23] <Carlin0> poi Matte-o se vuoi fare come ti pare prego
[22:24] <Matte-o> non intendevo essere sgarbato ma ho seguito la guida e non va, per questo chiedo
[22:25] <Carlin0> se hai seguito la guida 1° non hai fatto un cd 2° non hai masterizzato come dati
[22:25] <Carlin0> quindi o non sai ciò che dici ... o trolli
[22:26] <Matte-o> quando masterizzi da cd hai l'opzione di usare il cd come una memoria flash
[22:26] <Matte-o> quindi non mastterizzi niente
[22:27] <Carlin0> leggi la guida
[22:27] <Carlin0> ciao ...
[22:28] <Matte-o> Di grande aiuto ;) bb
[22:29] <Carlin0> !paga | Matte-o in alternativa ...
[22:29] <ubot-it> Matte-o in alternativa ...: se il supporto volontario non ti è stato di aiuto sappi che Canonical, casamadre ubuntu, offre un servizio h24 di assistenza a pagamento: http://www.ubuntu.com/management , siamo sicuri che potrai avere tutto l'aiuto tecnico necessario, offrendo inoltre sostentamento ad Ubuntu!
[22:31] <caveat-> wuolfit: credo che le possibilita' siano o X forwarding tramite ssh, oppure vnc
[22:32] <wuolfit> caveat....vnc....non ci avevo pensato....a questo punto potrei usare anche teamviewer
[22:32] <wuolfit> ne esiste anche una versione per linux se non erro
[22:37] <cristian_c> esulu: beh, se fosse un problema di apache, dovresti controllare il log di apache
[22:38] <cristian_c> esulu: alttimenti il problema potrebbe riguardare joomla o il software che stai utilizzando sul server
[22:43] <wuolfit> ciao a tutti e grazie
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-meeting-2
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[16:57] <kees> o/
[16:58] <mdeslaur> hi kees
[16:58] <kees> this looks like a short meeting :)
[17:00] <mdeslaur> ah, more people
[17:00] * infinity hands kees a chair.
[17:00] <pitti> o/
[17:00] <kees> #startmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 10 17:00:12 2015 UTC. The chair is kees. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:00] * slangasek waves
[17:01] <kees> ok. actions review!
[17:01] <kees> slangasek: juju and maas docs?
[17:01] <slangasek> right
[17:01] <slangasek> so we had some relevant discussions about this on IRC the last couple of weeks
[17:02] <slangasek> turns out we don't actually have a TB-approved SRE for maas yet
[17:02] <slangasek> we have a provisional SRE from infinity
[17:02] <slangasek> and the maas team has not followed up with the documentation
[17:02] <kees> ah ha
[17:02] <slangasek> so the juju one is still on my plate, but I'm punting the maas over to infinity
[17:02] * infinity considers himself punted.
[17:03] <infinity> kees: Record an action for me to review the provisional exception and chase up the rowing of their ducks.
[17:03] <slangasek> infinity: the trigger for all of this is that roaksoax has requested SRU for the next upstream version
[17:04] <slangasek> so it would be great to get that all sorted out
[17:04] <slangasek> and if them providing documentation of their QA plan is still a prereq for a permanent SRE, we should let them know
[17:04] <infinity> slangasek: Indeed, he's been bugging me about that. So this one will be another manual review, I think (so, still provisional), with more making sure their test processes and bug responses are all in order.
[17:04] <kees> #action infinity to review pSRE for maas
[17:04] <meetingology> ACTION: infinity to review pSRE for maas
[17:04] <slangasek> lamont is taking point on this from the maas team's side now
[17:06] <infinity> slangasek: I'm mostly concerned about their post-release process, to be fair. Their testing seems to have decent coverage (though could be better documented), but the notion that one can test for every scenario is daft, so I need to make sure they're responding to regressions in a very timely fashion before we let them loose.
[17:06] <slangasek> ok
[17:06] <kees> #topic mailing list
[17:07] <kees> empty it is.
[17:07] <kees> anyone see any hanging threads?
[17:07] <pitti> not me, it's been quiet for the past few weeks
[17:08] <kees> #topic bugs
[17:08] <kees> also empty
[17:08] <kees> #topic other business
[17:09] <kees> anything we need to cover?
[17:09] <pitti> nothing from me
[17:09] <mdeslaur> nothing from me
[17:09] <slangasek> nothingh ere
[17:09] <infinity> I'm good.
[17:10] <slangasek> next meeting / next chair?
[17:10] <mdeslaur> that would be me I believe
[17:10] <kees> #next chair
[17:10] <infinity> mdeslaur, pitti as fallback.
[17:10] <kees> #topic next chair
[17:10] <infinity> On the 24th.
[17:10] <kees> yawp
[17:11] <kees> easy meeting! :)
[17:11] <infinity> Almost... Too easy.
[17:11] <infinity> *suspicious look*
[17:11] <kees> thanks everyone!
[17:11] <mdeslaur> hehe
[17:11] <kees> heheh
[17:11] <mdeslaur> thanks!
[17:11] <kees> #endmeeting
[17:11] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 10 17:11:36 2015 UTC.
[17:11] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-11-10-17.00.moin.txt
[17:12] <pitti> thanks everyone! that was easy again
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-es
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[00:42] <K|Ke> buenas noches, uso ubuntu 15.10 y tengo un problema al apagar desde el menu, en vez de aparecer el cuadro de apagar o cerrar sesion, me aparece la pantalla de inicio de sesion
[00:42] <K|Ke> desde esta pantalla si puedo apagar, pero es incomodo
[01:00] <K|Ke> era problema de plank
[01:00] <K|Ke> retrase el inicio de plank en el arranque y solucionado el problema
[01:00] <K|Ke> extraño
[06:37] <elmalafacha> hola a todos, tengo ubuntu 15.10, he intentado pornerle música a mi ihpone con bashee, gtkpod y rythembox pero no funciona, alguien me recomienda otra opción?
[12:24] <Octubre2> saludos
[12:24] <Octubre2> quiero hacer que no se pueda acceder a una carpeta a no ser que se introduzca una contraseña
[12:24] <Octubre2> porque no quiero que sea vista aunque me deje el PC encendido
[12:25] <Octubre2> no veo ninguna opción en nautilus, ni en el menú contextual ni nada
[12:25] <Octubre2> como puedo proteger el contenido de un fichero o carpeta más allá del acceso al usuario?
[12:25] <Octubre2> de inicio de sesion?
[22:34] <nelson_> buenas tengo un problema con mi ubuntu alguien me puede ayudar
[22:34] <nelson_> ?
[22:35] <pablox_co> arroja la pregunta que si alguien sabe, te ayudan seguro
[22:36] <nelson_> mi problema es que no funciona mi tarjeta grafica me dice acces denied y no puedo ver ningun programa en 3d es una Intel® 945GM x86/MMX/SSE2
[22:40] <nelson_> he buscado e intentado miles maneras de solucionarlo y nada
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2015-11-10-#juju
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[16:33] <apuimedo> beisner: gnuoy: I'm trying to use my private openstack cloud
[16:34] <apuimedo> but i'm getting some problems bootstrapping
[16:35] <apuimedo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13216879/
[16:35] <apuimedo> do you think it could be due to not being an admin (I have perms for creating instances and nets though)
[16:36] <beisner> hi apuimedo, could you paste a (sanitized) `juju stat --format tabular` for the private cloud?
[16:37] <beisner> it'll help me to understand the services and topology
[16:38] <apuimedo> ok
[16:39] <apuimedo> beisner: I get the same error
[16:39] <apuimedo> trying to do the juju stat
[16:39] <beisner> apuimedo, do you have openstack already deployed?
[16:39] <apuimedo> yes, I have several instances running on this cloud
[16:40] <apuimedo> now I want juju to create its machines there too
[16:40] <beisner> apuimedo, ok, so i'm referring to that cloud that is deployed. can you juju stat that cloud?
[16:40] <beisner> apuimedo, ie. 1 layer down.
[16:40] <apuimedo> beisner: that cloud has been deployed with ansible, not juju
[16:41] <apuimedo> beisner: does juju need admin level credentials for the bootstrapping?
[16:41] <beisner> apuimedo, ok. in that case, i'd need to see your environments.yaml file, `keystone catalog` and `keystone endpoint-list` output.
[16:41] <beisner> apuimedo, no, shouldn't need to be admin @ the undercloud.
[16:42] <apuimedo> cool, thanks
[16:42] <beisner> apuimedo, sanitized for sensitive data on those pastes, of course.
[16:43] <beisner> also can you show `apt-cache policy juju` ?
[16:43] <apuimedo> sure
[16:43] <apuimedo> beisner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13216940/
[16:45] <beisner> apuimedo, what vers of openstack is the cloud?
[16:46] <apuimedo> Kilo
[16:46] <apuimedo> I was talking with my operator
[16:46] <beisner> apuimedo, it may not be directly related to the issue at hand, but you can use ppa:juju/stable to get the current stable release of Juju (1.25). https://launchpad.net/~juju/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[16:46] <apuimedo> he fixed some of my credentials and now I got past that error
[16:46] <apuimedo> oh, that sounds like a good idea anyway
[16:47] <apuimedo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13216957/
[16:47] <beisner> apuimedo, it looks like a previous juju bootstrap didn't get completely destroyed. can you remove (back up if you want to) the /home/ubuntu/.juju/environments/openstack.jenv file, then see if juju stat exits ok (showing no enviro bootstrapped)?
[16:47] <apuimedo> beisner: ^^ that will be due to the streams, right?
[16:48] <beisner> apuimedo, i'd rm that .jenv file to make sure the basic juju stat cmd is good. then do a `juju bootstrap --debug` ... which will show more detail if there's a failure somewhere.
[16:49] <apuimedo> cool. I'll try that now
[16:53] <apuimedo> beisner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13216996/
[16:53] <apuimedo> yeah... It seems I have to define the images somehow in the environment
[16:53] <apuimedo> I have to say the guide I found online was not the clearest
[16:56] <beisner> apuimedo, i think this is what you're after : https://jujucharms.com/docs/1.25/howto-privatecloud
[16:57] <apuimedo> yes. That's the one I'm looking at beisner
[17:02] <jcastro> lazypower: mbruzek: check this out: https://sysdig.com/digging-into-kubernetes-with-sysdig/
[17:02] <lazypower> interesting
[17:03] <mbruzek> jcastro: cool
[17:05] <beisner> apuimedo, images and metadata are the things to sort out for the private cloud juju usage. i've got a test cloud building, and will be able to step through that on my end later today.
[17:05] <beisner> in the past, i've used that guide.
[17:05] <apuimedo> I'm doing that now
[17:06] <apuimedo> let's see if I succeed :-)
[17:06] <beisner> apuimedo, be aware too - it looks like you're hitting a destroy bug (for which a fix is underway). the bug is that the destroy errors out, leaving the .jenv file behind, and you have to manually rm it after destroying. but that won't affect bootstrapping or deploying.
[17:06] <beisner> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512399
[17:06] <mup> Bug #1512399: ERROR environment destruction failed: destroying storage: listing volumes: Get https://x.x.x.x:8776/v2/<UUID>/volumes/detail: local error: record overflow <amulet> <bug-squad> <openstack> <sts> <uosci> <Go OpenStack Exchange:In Progress by gz> <juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core
[17:06] <mup> 1.25:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512399>
[17:06] <apuimedo> cool
[17:06] <apuimedo> thanks beisner
[17:07] <beisner> yw apuimedo - let us know how you turn out
[17:07] <apuimedo> I will, thanks
[17:18] <apuimedo> beisner: I set up agent-metadata-url and image-metadata-url
[17:18] <apuimedo> but somehow it seems it still goes to
[17:19] <apuimedo> 2015-11-10 17:17:53 DEBUG juju.environs.simplestreams simplestreams.go:429 read metadata index at "http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/streams/v1/index.sjson"
[17:19] <apuimedo> :(
[17:21] <apuimedo> ok, my mistake
[17:21] <apuimedo> I had a typo :P
[17:21] <apuimedo> sorry about that
[17:25] <apuimedo> got it bootstrapping ;-)
[17:25] <apuimedo> thanks for the help beisner!
[17:39] <beisner> apuimedo, woot! you're welcome. happy deploying.
[19:00] <apuimedo> beisner: is it possible to specify the ram amount when adding machine
[19:03] <beisner> hi apuimedo - juju can use constraints to choose the nearest specs match presented by your cloud. i believe "equal or greater" logic is used in that. `nova flavor-list` will show the machine sizes you have to choose from.
[19:03] <beisner> https://jujucharms.com/docs/1.25/charms-constraints
[19:03] <apuimedo> juju machine add --constraints mem=8G
[19:03] <apuimedo> like so?
[19:05] <apuimedo> it worked
[19:05] <apuimedo> thanks
[19:11] <beisner> apuimedo, ok good :)
[20:28] <blr> is the new lxd provider going to obviate the local provider?
[20:36] <jose> blr: well, local uses lxc, which lxd is based on (I believe)
[20:39] <blr> jose: right, just curious if the long term intention is to replace the local/lxc provider
[20:41] <rick_h__> blr: yes in time the lxd provider, with better isolation and ability tondo things like HA will deprecate the local provider.
[20:42] <blr> rick_h__: nice
[20:49] <blr> lazypower: if you're about, have a simple MP for charmhelpers that could use a look (https://code.launchpad.net/~blr/charm-helpers/pip-constraints/+merge/276062)
[21:11] <apuimedo> beisner: is there any way to make juju deploy lxc to the machines on openstack providers with the juju-br0 model that it uses when the machine is provided by maas?
[21:17] <rick_h__> frobware: ^ this was done for the machine registration work and isn't part of OS provider work atm? Or is it planned/part of it?
[21:17] <beisner> apuimedo, i believe the juju openstack provider is designed to use 1 nova instance per juju unit. i don't think there is currently support for juju deploying services to lxc containers within nova instances via the openstack provider.
[21:18] <apuimedo> beisner: well, it does deploy the lxc containers
[21:18] <beisner> apuimedo, rick_h__ ... and i was about to say, let me check though. ;-) thanks rick_h__ ... fwiw - that would be immensely useful for us in openstack engineering too (juju/goose support for lxc containers on nova instances).
[21:18] <apuimedo> but obviously they are unreachable
[21:18] <rick_h__> beisner: well you can use provision to an lxc on a nova vm with --to=lxc and such.
[21:18] <beisner> apuimedo, right, i think it will, but then they are marooned in my experience.
[21:18] <rick_h__> beisner: at least I wanted to think that was possible with normal --to support
[21:19] <apuimedo> beisner: I just had my nova instances remove the anti spoofing filter
[21:19] <apuimedo> so if they would just have the bridge on the eth0 device
[21:19] <apuimedo> it would all work
[21:19] <apuimedo> or putting different /24 on each nova vm
[21:19] <rick_h__> apuimedo: beisner frobware leads the team working on networking and can best speak to that atm. however he's EU and EOD
[21:19] <beisner> rick_h__, something legacy is ringing a vague bell with goose -- where it didn't / couldn't know about all of the various neutron bits to wire up in advance.
[21:20] <apuimedo> EU here too :P
[21:20] <rick_h__> beisner: yea, I'll not be surprised that maas has it because it's more knowledgable
[21:20] <apuimedo> well, what I do is every time I put up a nova VM
[21:20] <apuimedo> you get a new port
[21:20] <apuimedo> so you can immediately do whatever to remove the filter
[22:20] <rick_h__> beisner: apuimedo jrwren had an interesting post around the bridge http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2015/11/10/converting-eth0-to-br0-and-getting-all-your-lxc-or-lxd-onto-your-lan/
[22:20] <rick_h__> not sure if it's helpful at all, but fyi
[22:21] <apuimedo> rick_h__: I was considering doing it like that
[22:22] <apuimedo> the problem for OSt deployments is that the dhcp should not give you an address
[22:22] <apuimedo> so what I was thinking of was to make juju call neutron to set routes between the VMs
[22:23] <apuimedo> and, of course, use a /24 net per VM
[22:23] <apuimedo> rick_h__: do you happen to know who's in charge of networking in the context of the openstack provider?
[22:24] <rick_h__> apuimedo: frobware's team
[22:24] <apuimedo> ok
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2015-11-10-#xubuntu
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[00:25] <Troller> I have a virus Exe here with me anyone knows a way to read what the virus does?
[00:32] <knome> Troller, no.
[00:34] <Troller> =(
[01:05] <totus> hello
[01:06] <totus> how do you do?
[01:07] <totus> I was trying to make it work under xubuntu 15.10
[01:48] <xubuntu162> How do I enable adobe flash on mozilla so I can video chat?
[01:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Which website are you using?
[01:50] <xubuntu162> teledoc
[01:50] <xubuntu162> teladoc
[01:51] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu162, Ok.
[01:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu162, have you tried using html5 options?
[01:53] <JohnnyComeL8ly> (Those are preferable.)
[01:54] <xubuntu162> I'm afraid I am super new to Linux and don't know much
[01:54] <xubuntu162> sry
[01:54] <xubuntu162> html5?
[01:54] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Hey, at least you are here!
[01:54] <JohnnyComeL8ly> :-)
[01:55] <JohnnyComeL8ly> 5th version of HTML
[01:55] <xubuntu162> yeah, trying to learn
[01:55] <xubuntu162> How do I check my version?
[01:55] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Just a min. Have to take care of something. (You don't have to check your version.)
[01:56] <xubuntu162> ah... k. Thanks for helping
[02:00] <xubuntu162> tried to get adobe download but I can't remember how to get stuff. I need practice :/
[02:00] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu162, I'm back.
[02:01] <xubuntu162> oh hey
[02:01] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Long time no chat, huh?
[02:01] <JohnnyComeL8ly> ;-P
[02:01] <xubuntu162> Oh, you have no idea
[02:02] <xubuntu162> I haven't IRC chatted since the 90's
[02:02] <xubuntu162> Was a Windows guy all the way up until 2 months ago
[02:02] <xubuntu162> had a buddy at work install Linux on this laptop
[02:03] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Cool!
[02:03] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ok, this should get you started. http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-fresh-player-plugin-in-ubuntu.html
[02:03] <xubuntu162> still trying to remember how to download stuff/make stuff work
[02:04] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I did this, but I don't use Flash for 98% of what I do.
[02:05] <xubuntu162> got it... I am only trying to use it this once for a doctor consult
[02:05] <xubuntu162> in 40 min
[02:06] <JohnnyComeL8ly> This should only take 10 min max.
[02:06] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu162, what step are you on?
[02:07] <xubuntu162> Just reading where it says it won't work for Firefox users
[02:07] <xubuntu162> ???
[02:07] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ah, but it does. ;-)
[02:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> fresh player is a wrapper for pepperflash.
[02:09] <Unit193> In Ubuntu wily+, browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash+adobe-flashplugin
[02:09] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu162, just scroll down to "1. Install Fresh Player Plugin in Ubuntu (via PPA), by using the following commands:"
[02:09] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Unit193, I'm not sure what you mean.
[02:10] <Unit193> !info browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[02:10] <Unit193> !info adobe-flashplugin partner
[02:11] <Unit193> That is to say, just get the packages from the real repos, don't use PPAs for what you already can install.
[02:12] <xubuntu162> OK I just put it into my termial and it said it worked?
[02:12] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh, I see now.
[02:12] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I made a booboo.
[02:12] <Unit193> (I don't like webupd8 PPAs, quantity over quality.)
[02:14] <xubuntu162> ?
[02:14] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu162, Um, just use "sudo apt-get remove freshplayerplugin"
[02:15] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Then, "sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8"
[02:15] <JohnnyComeL8ly> And then, "sudo apt update"
[02:16] <xubuntu162> unable to locate package freshplayer
[02:16] <JohnnyComeL8ly> and finally, "sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash"
[02:18] <JohnnyComeL8ly> xubuntu162, I have to go... mom says.
[02:18] <JohnnyComeL8ly> :-}
[02:19] <xubuntu162> Unable to locate package browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[02:19] <Guest11563> can someone her help me with an wireless internet issue?
[02:19] <xubuntu162> Oh... Bye Johnny
[03:33] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Unit193, did xubuntu162 get help?
[03:40] <Unit193> JohnnyComeL8ly: He quit shortly after you did.
[03:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh, bummer.
[07:14] <nikolam> Hmm, seems like pulseaudio , init and indicator-sound does not die after user logout (Was logged in via Teamviewer)
[07:15] <nikolam> aptitud eupdate says: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:15] <nikolam> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[07:16] <nikolam> aand there is apt-get having a lock on /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[07:17] <nikolam> I can only guess apt=get got frozen because user was doing standby instead of shutting down
[07:17] <nikolam> That machine has problems shutting down
[07:18] <Unit193> Or cron'd apt-get update.
[07:18] <nikolam> it wasn't doing anythin gon top
[07:20] <nikolam> hmm, aptitude update says.. connecting to archive.ubuntu.com .. and stays there...
[07:21] <nikolam> same with apt-get update, it says connecting to archive.ubuntu.com , finds IP and just holds there...
[07:23] <nikolam> it continued now
[07:23] <nikolam> low speed but..
[07:24] <Unit193> Use a local mirror?
[07:24] <nikolam> I sort of remember setting main server intensionally
[07:24] <nikolam> local mirror used to be not in sync in previous years and that caused problems
[07:25] <nikolam> now holding again on aptitude update on archive.ubutu.com...
[07:28] <Unit193> I use us.archive.ubuntu.com for example.
[07:29] <flocculant> I use main - which is about 80 miles from me - it's slow as molasses today
[07:29] <nikolam> I know I change it to main, because local mirror kept not being in sync in previous years for some reason
[07:29] <flocculant> so it *might* well just be slow atm
[07:29] <nikolam> ofc
[07:30] <Unit193> nikolam: Ah, wasn't sure if you meant the Canonical or public mirror.
[07:31] <nikolam> I am not sure if regional/national mirrors ara managed by canonical, I think they are not
[07:33] <Unit193> The ones that have *.archive.ubuntu.com certainly are, for example the us one is: AS41231 Canonical Ltd in Boston.
[07:45] <nikolam> I used to have bad experiences with amny users with locals Serbian mirror in years before, people used to end up in weird and broken package states so I started recommending uing main one
[07:45] <nikolam> worth checking out on LoCo etc
[07:47] <Unit193> There's also local mirrors: http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/ and status info: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[07:59] <nikolam> yeah, there seems to be no national mirror Atm, it points to Brasil mirror
[08:35] <nikolam> Huh interesting , it does not want to shutdown with sudo shutdown -P now
[08:38] <nikolam> it just doesnt shuts down..
[10:12] <declow> Hey can anyone help me understand whats going on wih my laptop. I've have been using xubuntu 15.10 on my laptop for a week or so. But after a update nothing worked. Drivers for wifi was gone usb did not work. My GPU drivers was gone but removeing the linux kernel 4.2.0.17 and going back to 3.19 fixed all of this. Any idea what the problem might be?
[11:02] <knome> declow, sounds like either the drivers or your hardware do not work with the newer kernel - just use the old one
[11:21] <declow> Okay it's kinda strange I have never had a problem like this before. But whatever I will just keep using 3.19 then
[12:48] <RQ> hi! I have a problem, and hope that it can be helped. In XFCE power manager, I have set the system to ask me what to do when I press the power button. It works, but there's an ugly exception: if my screen is locked when I press the button, the system just shuts down. Is there a way to disable this misbehavior?
[12:54] <pjotter> I recently upgraded form xfce 4.10 to 4.12 in 14.04. But now some applications (especially the dialogs) seem to have some kind of weird black and white theme. Does anyone know what is up with that?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> pjotter, try a different theme;
[12:54] <pjotter> I already did. The black and white theme stays the same.
[12:55] <pjotter> I observe this behaviour in mousepad for instance. If I open the open dialog, all icons are suddenly black and white.
[12:57] <RQ> screenshots are welcome :)
[13:22] <pjotter> RQ: where can I upload the screenshot?
[15:02] <yoLo_> hello
[15:02] <yoLo_> i need help with something
[15:02] <yoLo_> i have a 20GB space
[15:03] <yoLo_> i'm trying to install ubuntu but i get a No root file system is defined
[15:04] <yoLo_> the space was 120GB and i allocated 20GB for ubuntu which is now marked as free space
[16:40] <evandrojr> I use SUPER key (windows key) to pop up the whisker menu. However, when I use SUPER + F it will also open thunar and the whisker menu at the same time. It would be better to open just thunar.
[16:41] <evandrojr> Is there a way to fix that behavior?
[16:41] <flocculant> evandrojr: perhaps do what I do - I have whisker open with Super Right
[16:43] <evandrojr> That is a nice workaround, but is not the ideal solution :(
[16:44] <flocculant> possibly not - not sure how you're going to tell the system that Super is only Super if you don't use another key - or the reverse of that
[16:44] <flocculant> wait and see if someone else can tell you how to do that
[16:44] <evandrojr> Thanks flocculant!
[16:45] <flocculant> welcome - ftr - I scratched my head with that for a while :)
[16:48] <evandrojr> I will save my brain and use your workaround
[16:50] <flocculant> heh
[16:51] <evandrojr> I developed a ruby script that monitors a directory for mkv avi and mp4 files. When a new file arrives it will download the subtitles in ANY different languages for that movie and make a symlink for your favorite language.
[16:53] <evandrojr> The only thing is that it does not work when I add it to session / start programs . I will have to add it to my rc.local
[16:54] <evandrojr> Does anyone has a clue it does not work when I set it at session / start programs?
[16:55] <evandrojr> Does it log somewhere?
[18:28] <Dezponia> So help me out with some confirmation bias here guys. I've been tasked by work to setup a bunch of old computers with GNU/Linux for a charity. The machines are of varying age and performance but most are from the Vista/early win7 days. They should preferably have the same distro on them so the people using them only need to learn 1 system. They must be easy to maintain for years since no one with much GNU/Linux experiance can be
[18:28] <Dezponia> expected to help them out (often). So far I'm think Xubuntu might be a good fit since it should be a solid base with an LTS release and still fit the more light weight machines.
[18:29] <knome> about what level of resources the machines have?
[18:30] <Dezponia> 1-2GB RAM, Atoms, Pentiums (from the core 2 era), Core 2 Duos and one Core i5 that I belive is from the sandybridge generation (havent had time to look over that machine yet)
[18:30] <Dezponia> So quite a wide range of hardware. One of them is the original ASUS EeePC I think
[18:31] <knome> some of the eeepc's at least would struggle with xubuntu
[18:31] <Dezponia> There are some others I havent had time to look over as well but in that range
[18:32] <knome> or at least, wouldn't be very comfortable to use
[18:32] <Dezponia> knome: Well thats the bottom of the spectrum, everything else should be faster so if one of them is a big slow I think people can live with it
[18:32] <Dezponia> is a bit*
[18:32] <knome> if you have 1GB+ RAM, then it should be pretty good
[18:32] <Dezponia> Its probably more important to have a unified experiance
[18:32] <Dezponia> I think they all do
[18:32] <knome> yeah, i agree, i've just used an eeepc with xubuntu, and that wasn't fun
[18:33] <knome> when are you about to set them up?
[18:34] <Dezponia> Pretty much whenever I get a free timeslot at work or if I feel like doing it at my free time (its a fun project and work is not charging them for it anyway). I took a few of them home with me to look over today and get started so hopefully right now
[18:34] <knome> if you are about to use xubuntu, then i'd wait until 16.04 is out if possible
[18:34] <knome> that's in 5 months
[18:34] <Dezponia> knome: Yeah I figured :P
[18:34] <knome> i understand that might be a bit too much...
[18:35] <knome> 14.04 is only supported until 2017, so you have about 1,5 years with it
[18:35] <Dezponia> knome: And yeah I was sort of hoping to have a fresh LTS to work with but thats not going to happen I think. They need the machines sort of soon at least
[18:35] <knome> right...
[18:36] <Dezponia> Also I've noticed a problematic behavior on earlier machines I've setup with Xubuntu in the past. Old kernels are not removed if the machine is set to auto-update which tends to fill their /boot and make them unable to install or upgrade anything. Thats a real usability problem
[18:36] <Dezponia> Thats not really inspiring confidence in setting them up for extended periods without someone familiar with the system to fix that
[18:36] <mrkramps> Dezponia, you may setup a cron job for handling this issue
[18:37] <Dezponia> mrkramps: Yeah I can, just seems to be such an obvious oversight. I've never seen any other distro do that except Ubuntu :P
[18:38] <mrkramps> but you're right, they should finally provide a solution for old kernels
[18:40] <knome> http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition/430944#430944 <- at the end of that comment, see the part about unattended upgrades and the apt config
[18:41] <Dezponia> knome: The tip at the bottom there looks to be what I'm after for this scenario. Thanks!
[18:43] <knome> of course, as always, note that this might introduce other problems...
[18:43] <Dezponia> knome: Whats the worse that can happen? :P
[18:44] <Dezponia> knome: Nah but i know. At least this COULD cause problems while the /boot 100% issue WILL happen without it
[18:44] <Dezponia> So pick your poison I guess :)
[18:48] <flocculant> Dezponia: the /boot issue only affects if you use encrypted iirc - not sure if you're doing that
[18:48] <flocculant> it uses an ext2 partition for /boot
[18:50] <Dezponia> flocculant: I dont encrypt. Still happening
[18:51] <flocculant> perhaps it's lvm that does it then
[18:54] <Dezponia> flocculant: Whats supposed to happen? I just using the auto partioning for those installs
[18:56] <flocculant> ok - so it's not the /boot with encrypt and/or lvm then :)
[18:56] <flocculant> that's where /boot is set to ~260Mb
[18:57] <knome> Dezponia, i don't know; if i knew, then that could be probably be avoided and we didn't need disclaimers like this :)
[19:23] <Sid__> hello team
[19:23] <Sid__> happy diwali
[19:23] <Sid__> need a small help
[19:23] <Sid__> with Xubuntu on Virtual machine
[19:23] <Sid__> VirtualBox is the tool i am using
[19:23] <Sid__> and i am not able to connect my USB external disk
[19:24] <Sid__> getting error verr_PDM_NO_USB_PORTS
[19:24] <Sid__> please advise
[19:24] <Sid__> thank you
[19:24] <mrkramps> usb access enabled in vbox?
[19:24] <Sid__> yes,
[19:24] <Sid__> i have added the virtual box addons
[19:24] <mrkramps> is it usb 3.0?
[19:24] <Sid__> and there are 3 options, USB 1.1, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0
[19:24] <Sid__> i selected 2.0
[19:24] <Sid__> as my laptop doesn't have 3.0 ports
[19:25] <mrkramps> guest additions installed?
[19:25] <Sid__> i followed this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoHpIMPbIc
[19:25] <Sid__> if that's what u are reffering to.
[19:26] <mrkramps> exactly
[19:26] <mrkramps> how many usb devices are connected?
[19:26] <Sid__> well
[19:26] <Sid__> if i go to my VM -> Devices -> USB -> there are 4 which are shown
[19:27] <Sid__> 2 unknown devices, 1 External disk and 1 2.4G wireless mouse receiver
[19:28] <Sid__> is there anymore information required, please advise and i will do my best to get it
[19:28] <mrkramps> hm, strange … the error message is about no finding a free usb port, but afaik the limit is greater than 4 (8? 12? or something)
[19:29] <mrkramps> usb hub in use?
[19:29] <Sid__> i need some guidence to find this info :(
[19:30] <mrkramps> a usb hub is just a simple device to attach multiple devices to one usb port … like a switch
[19:30] <mrkramps> so i guess, you're not using one ^^
[19:31] <Sid__> well no
[19:31] <Sid__> i like to keep things simple, :D
[19:34] <mrkramps> Sid__, but your host system is recognizing the usb disk?
[19:35] <Sid__> yes, but once i select VM -> Devices -> USB -> external disk
[19:35] <Sid__> it doesn't show in my computer
[19:35] <Sid__> screen
[19:36] <mrkramps> what kind of host system - in terms of operating system - are you running?
[19:38] <Sid__> windows 7 64 bit
[19:39] <Sid__> Guest Xubuntu wily version
[19:40] <mrkramps> Sid__, have you tested other usb devices? like a storage stick?
[19:41] <Sid__> hmm
[19:41] <Sid__> let me check and get back @ you
[19:41] <Sid__> right now the guest OS is switched off.
[19:41] <Sid__> is there some setting u want me to change?
[19:41] <mrkramps> actually not
[19:41] <mrkramps> you boot the guest an try if it recognize other usb devices
[19:42] <Sid__> doing that
[19:42] <Sid__> will advise shortly
[19:44] <Sid__> USB pen drive worked
[19:44] <Sid__> USB external Hard disk didn't :(
[19:45] <mrkramps> ok, so it is not a general issue
[19:45] <mrkramps> enable the usb 3.0 support, reboot guest and connect the external drive
[19:46] <Sid__> ok
[19:46] <Sid__> Also i realized 2 other issues... 1) screen resolution isn't 1366*768
[19:46] <Sid__> 2) no sound
[19:47] <Sid__> let me complete this usb issue
[19:48] <Sid__> GOD BLESS UR SOUL!!! IT worked
[19:49] <Sid__> i realized the case was USB 3.0
[19:49] <Sid__> hence the issue
[19:49] <Sid__> USB is working
[19:49] <Sid__> Yay!!!!
[19:49] <Sid__> :D
[19:49] <Sid__> now the other 2 issues.. screen resolution and No sound
[19:49] <Sid__> :(
[19:49] <knome> Sid__, i'm rejoicing with you, but please do not use enter as punctuation
[19:49] <Sid__> Understood..
[19:50] <Sid__> I am using IRC first time in my life. so sorry for any trouble caused. will remember this.
[19:50] <knome> no problem
[19:50] <knome> did you install the guest additions? after you did that, you can change your resolution to what you wish
[19:51] <Sid__> i did install the guest addition tools.. by following the steps in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xoHpIMPbIc
[19:51] <Sid__> I am seeing all the resolutions except 1366*768
[19:54] <knome> why do you need that exact resolution?
[19:55] <Sid__> full screen according to my laptop resolution
[19:55] <knome> why don't you just maximise the virtualbox window?
[19:58] <Sid__> it isn't the full screen. Maximizing has 2 grey vertical bars
[19:58] <Sid__> maximizing the virtualbox i mean
[19:58] <knome> then go into the full screen mode
[20:00] <mrkramps> Sid__, how much video memory is assigned for the guest os?
[20:01] <Sid__> 128 MB
[20:01] <Sid__> full
[20:02] <mrkramps> ok, should be enough then
[20:06] <Sid__> hmm.. i am trying re-install the guest additions
[20:06] <Sid__> maybe i might have missed a step or two
[20:06] <mrkramps> Sid__, reinstall from command and check for errors
[20:06] <mrkramps> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11
[20:07] <mrkramps> sudo apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox-guest-x11
[20:07] <mrkramps> sry
[20:09] <Sid__> first command let me know that it is already the newest version
[20:10] <Sid__> second command gave a warning. warning message - start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
[20:10] <mrkramps> but the second command reinstalled the package?
[20:11] <Sid__> it unpacked the package, processed some triggers and then gave me the aforementioned warning..
[20:12] <Sid__> and waiting for me to give commands
[20:16] <Sid__> my VM has come with a guest Additions ISO file. which i can mount. is there any thing i can do to use that to install guest additions on my Xubuntu
[20:16] <mrkramps> Sid__, reboot guest os and check if there's any improvement
[20:16] <Sid__> ok, mrkramps
[20:17] <mrkramps> then you may either try the guest additions from the iso file or try to add a custom resolution
[20:17] <Sid__> hmm
[20:20] <Sid__> i noticed that when i am starting my Guest os (Xubuntu) i am getting error "VBoxClient : Failed to connect to the virtualBox kernel service, rc=VERR_ACCESS_DENIED'
[20:21] <Sid__> could this be the cause?
[20:29] <dragon76> hello
[20:29] <dragon76> o
[20:29] <mrkramps> Sid__, probably you could try running the virtualbox client on windows host as administrator
[20:29] <Sid__> hmm.. let me try that
[20:31] <mrkramps> Sid__, otherwise try https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#idp47384986692304
[20:31] <mrkramps> and always reboot the guest os to apply the changes
[20:32] <Sid__> i always power off the guest OS
[20:32] <Sid__> anyways logining as admin didn't help
[20:33] <Sid__> as it is showing the same issues
[20:33] <dragon76> how to connect to this IRC channel via Pidgin? What's server name?
[20:33] <Sid__> however, i am seeing a CD icon on my xubuntu desktop
[20:33] <Sid__> and i am hoping this will solve the guest additions installation problem
[20:34] <Pici> dragon76: chat.freenode.net, but be warned, pidgin is not a good irc client.
[20:34] <Sid__> only thing i am not understanding is how to execute the installtion from that CD..
[20:34] <mrkramps> dragon76, the name of the server you want to connect to
[20:35] <mrkramps> dragon76, use irc.freenode.net to connect to this netwerk we are currently on
[20:35] <dragon76> thanks!
[20:36] <mrkramps> Sid__, afaik you have to start cd installation of guest additions from the command line
[20:38] <Sid__> well
[20:38] <Sid__> i managed to get it executing. i will update u guys..thank you
[20:38] <mrkramps> ok
[20:38] <dragon761> Thanks, mrkramps
[20:38] <dragon761> it's work
[20:39] <Sid__> it seems i was in the wrong directory...
[20:39] <dragon761> I like xubuntu much more and more :)
[20:40] <Sid__> i want to learn more about it :) and I hope i will be able enough to contribute to this community
[20:41] <mrkramps> Sid__, concerning your sound card you may also try another virtual hardware from the audio settings
[20:41] <Sid__> Yes, now the issue of resolution is done..
[20:41] <Sid__> now to the sound. let me check what are the options presented by the Virtualbox
[20:41] <dragon761> how to remove application from Sound menu in task bar? gmusicbrowser exactly
[20:42] <r007> hy guys im new
[20:42] <dragon761> hi! me too :)
[20:43] <dragon761> and other guys look at us and make LOL :)
[20:43] <Sid__> Ok Host audio driver options are Null Audio Driver & Windows DirectSound...... Audio Controller Options are Intel HD Audio, ICH AC97, SoundBlaster 16
[20:44] <Sid__> currently i am using Windows DirectSound and Intel HD Audio
[20:44] <Sid__> combination
[20:45] <r00d> hay @dragon761 :) nice
[20:49] <Sid__> ok this combination is working
[20:50] <Sid__> Thank you mrKramps. u are the best :) greetings from India and happy diwali..
[20:50] <mrkramps> you'Re welcome!
[20:52] <noodleslurp> hello. while trying to install trillian in xubuntu 15.10, I have these unmet dependencies. http://pastebin.com/xCWkyuCm it worked in 15.04, should I just wait for it to be updated or something?
[20:52] <Sid__> BTW a quick question, u know how to remove the gmusicbrowser from the sound icon? like when i click it. it is present there
[20:55] <drc> Sid__: Do you just want to remove GMB from the menu, or do you not use it/use something else?
[20:56] <r00d> can i play dota 2 on xubuntu ?
[20:56] <Sid__> remove it completely
[20:56] <Sid__> and from the menu
[20:57] <drc> Sid__: Un-installing it should remove it from the menu (did on my machine)
[20:58] <Noskcaj> r00d, yes
[20:59] <Sid__> hmm.. I did uninstall but it is still present. may be a reboot will work :) let me check and advise
[21:00] <drc> maybe just a logout?
[21:00] <Sid__> too late :P ... i am almost finished the restart process
[21:01] <Sid__> AH! now the GMP is not there
[21:01] <Sid__> thank you
[21:01] <drc> np, enjoy
[21:02] <r00d> Noskcaj : what i need wine for that ?
[21:02] <Noskcaj> r00d, no, dota will run on windows, linux, or OSX
[21:05] <r00d> Noskcaj : wow its great i can play dota again :) thanks
[21:30] <joeberardis> hello?
[21:52] <Dezponia> How is multimedia support in xubuntu out of the box (with the extra "fluendo mp3" box ticked during install). Anything more that should be added post-install to give it "complete" multimedia support?
[21:54] <drc> Dezponia: I haven't found anything I wanted to play (audio or video) that I need anything extra. No saying there aren't, I just never needed anything else.
[21:55] <drc> But if you don't want to do it that way you could just wait until after and install xubuntu restricted extras, that works also.
[21:57] <Dezponia> drc: Cursory glance at the installed gstreamer packages suggests the support is pretty fully fledged
[21:58] <Dezponia> Now I just need to load these machines up with a decent selection of free kid friendly games from the repos
[22:07] <drc> Sounds like a plan.
[22:08] <mrkramps> secret maryo chronicles
[22:31] <Orioa> i was wondering if anyone could tell why i have an issue
[22:32] <Orioa> the problem is when i disable my onboard monitor i get a funky box near wereever my mouse is
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[00:46] <diddledan> this is awesome: https://torflow.uncharted.software/
[00:46] <diddledan> it's a visualisation of tor traffic
[00:47] <diddledan> interesting that the nexus is around europe
[00:57] <diddledan> how is candy crush worth 5.9beeleon dollars?
[00:59] <zmoylan-pi> maybe they've already turned down such an offer?
[01:00] <diddledan> activision have bought them for 5.9
[01:02] <zmoylan-pi> maybe they want to backport candy crush to the atari 2600...
[01:24] <zmoylan-pi> or they see ms buying minecraft and want their own 'universe'
[04:15] * diddledan__ blows raspberries
[04:23] * zmoylan-pi prefers rasp pi's
[05:32] <jimmy_will> Hi dudes
[05:32] <jimmy_will> New here
[05:32] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[05:35] <jimmy_will> Im not a native English speeker,trying to improve
[05:36] <zmoylan-pi> well the english in here is terrible :-)
[05:36] <jimmy_will> oh
[05:36] <jimmy_will> sorry
[05:37] <zmoylan-pi> it's a joke :-)
[05:37] <jimmy_will> didnt get it
[05:37] <jimmy_will> not a native speaker
[05:37] <jimmy_will> XD
[05:38] <zmoylan-pi> what's your native language?
[05:38] <jimmy_will> Mandarin
[05:39] <zmoylan-pi> a hard starting point to learn english from
[05:39] <jimmy_will> yeah
[05:39] <zmoylan-pi> mainland china?
[05:39] <jimmy_will> yeah
[05:40] <jimmy_will> mainland
[05:40] <zmoylan-pi> is it easy to access irc from there. i'm curious
[05:40] <jimmy_will> it is easy
[05:40] <jimmy_will> but hard for google and youtube
[05:42] <zmoylan-pi> as long as irc is unblocked :-)
[05:42] <jimmy_will> irc is always unblocked
[05:43] <zmoylan-pi> can't stop the signal mal - firefly
[05:44] <jimmy_will> what is a signal mal?
[05:45] <zmoylan-pi> a quote from firefly tv show. a character talking to mal says it. sorry
[05:45] <jimmy_will> ok i see
[05:45] <jimmy_will> never watched that show
[05:45] <zmoylan-pi> only 14 episodes and 1 movie. worth watching
[05:46] <jimmy_will> ill try
[05:46] <jimmy_will> i watch Doctor WHO and the IT crowed
[05:46] <zmoylan-pi> if you like it crowd make sure you catch black books and father ted
[05:47] <jimmy_will> and sherlock holmes
[05:47] <jimmy_will> never heard of black books and father ted
[05:48] <jimmy_will> cant get any info about those in mainland china
[05:48] <zmoylan-pi> same weird comedy as it crowd but different
[05:48] <jimmy_will> ok
[05:49] <jimmy_will> i'll try to look for them
[05:49] <jimmy_will> thanks
[05:50] <zmoylan-pi> so what os do you use?
[05:50] <jimmy_will> ubuntu
[05:51] <jimmy_will> 15.10
[05:51] <jimmy_will> switch from windows 7 this morning
[05:51] <zmoylan-pi> what's the linux user scene like in china?
[05:52] <jimmy_will> most of people never heard of linux
[05:52] <jimmy_will> they dont even know what a os is
[05:52] <jimmy_will> an os
[05:52] <zmoylan-pi> i thought china had red flag linux a few years back? a home grown distro...
[05:52] <jimmy_will> hmm
[05:53] <jimmy_will> never use that distro
[05:53] <jimmy_will> there is a distro called deepin linux
[05:53] <jimmy_will> based on ubuntu
[05:54] <zmoylan-pi> oh i'd trust it as much as a distro from nsa or gchq :-)
[05:55] <jimmy_will> does nsa mean national security agency?
[05:55] <zmoylan-pi> yup
[05:55] <jimmy_will> what does gchq mean then?
[05:56] <jimmy_will> cant find any result from google translate
[05:56] <zmoylan-pi> gchq is the british equivalent
[05:56] <jimmy_will> oh
[05:56] <jimmy_will> i see
[05:57] <jimmy_will> i have to go back to work
[05:57] <jimmy_will> glad to talk to you
[05:57] <zmoylan-pi> well take care o/
[05:57] <jimmy_will> ttyl
[05:57] <jimmy_will> bye o/
[05:57] <zmoylan-pi> and trust me on firefly, father ted, blackbooks
[05:57] <zmoylan-pi> :-)
[05:57] <jimmy_will> without any doubt
[05:58] <jimmy_will> :-)
[07:02] <brobostigon> morning boy and girls.
[07:03] * zmoylan-pi squints out window and questions the use of the description morning...
[09:01] <diplo> Morning all
[09:03] <jimmy_will> morning and afternoon
[09:42] <MooDoo> howdy all
[10:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Area Code Day! 😃
[10:05] <awilkins> http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/11/09/1748237/us-spends-1bn-over-a-decade-trying-to-digitize-immigration-forms-just-1-is-online
[10:05] <awilkins> $500M initial budget to digitize paper forms
[10:06] <awilkins> My company is spending an order of magnitude less to establish twin datacentres capable of handling 3PB of genetic data.
[10:06] <awilkins> Truly, the pork barrel runneth over in the USA
[11:03] <davmor2> JamesTait: I know an area code song from rush hour 2 iirc not sure I can paste it in such a polite channel though :)
[12:50] <zmoylan-pi> i'm beginning to work out why sony is in trouble.... http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/10/betamax-dead-long-live-vhs-sony-end-prodution
[13:11] <mapps> hi zmoylan-pi
[13:11] <mapps> ;]
[13:15] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[13:18] <mapps> how could i block all gambling sites and make it so i cant access them
[13:18] <mapps> im serious
[13:24] <diplo> Edit /etc/hosts and change all the domains to 127 ?
[13:24] <diplo> Block them via your router if it has that option
[13:24] <mapps> but i can then change it mysellf
[13:25] <diplo> But you have to physically do it, which should work with you alerting yourself
[13:26] <diplo> If you're going to change it, I'd go to see a hypnotherapist, gammbling anonymous or something along those lines if you don't have the will power and you're in charge of your machine / router you obviously don't have the self will to not do it and get around your circumventions
[13:26] <diplo> Those things are not bad things, just giving options
[13:27] <diplo> I had a member of staff who couldn't stop visiting certain sites so I did the hosts thing on his windows machine, just having the block there was enough for him to understand it had become an issue
[13:27] <mapps> yea
[13:33] <zmoylan-pi> could you change it so router blocks it and give the password to a mate so you can't undo it?
[13:40] <popey> mapps, ask the sites you visit to do self-exclusion
[13:42] <mapps> i try but always un self exclude
[13:42] <popey> get help
[13:59] <diplo> I know this is an ubuntu channel but... :D I want to download the EPEL CentOS 4 packages to have as a backup, yes I know it is EOL
[14:00] <diplo> Normal option would be to use rsync, but that's not supported on 4 packages
[14:00] <diplo> How would anyone else do it, wget mirror ?
[14:01] <popey> no idea, never used centos, so no idea how packages are served
[14:01] <diplo> :) - I'd rather not :)
[14:02] <diplo> Read on other repos that wget is actively discouraged but no other option apart from rsync/reposync which doesn't work :P all good fun
[15:34] <directhex> is anyone currently seeding my steamos fork, stephenson's rocket? i have a new release i need to switch seeders onto
[15:35] <diddledan__> directhex: I think I might be
[15:36] <popey> bigcalm was
[15:37] <diddledan__> directhex: do you have the magnet link handy? I can add it to my torrent box
[15:38] <directhex> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e282ac4fb18dbfae2e0be7a83411c7d47101b694&dn=StephensonsRocket2.49plus1.iso&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969
[15:38] <directhex> but BW will stink until i can get it seeded by a few people
[15:38] * bigcalm looks in due to email notification. Sup?
[15:39] <directhex> it's steamos release day! so i made a stephenson's rocket refresh
[15:39] <diddledan__> bigcalm: how do you get irc emails?
[15:39] <bigcalm> directhex: I haven't recently seeded it. Happy to do so again though. Got the torrent link?
[15:39] <directhex> bigcalm: it's fastest for you to grab via http then seed, IME
[15:40] <bigcalm> diddledan__: I use away proxy for irssi
[15:40] <bigcalm> directhex: k
[15:40] <davmor2> diddledan__: irssi proxy away
[15:40] <directhex> although i'm pushing 2mb up! unprecedented!
[15:40] <diddledan__> aah
[15:40] <bigcalm> directhex: site url?
[15:40] <bigcalm> Something about a horse?
[15:40] <davmor2> diddledan__: irssi as a proxy rocks :)
[15:41] <diddledan__> bigcalm: horsebattlerystaple?
[15:41] <diddledan__> --l
[15:41] <directhex> wasn't kidding about unprecedented, i never push more than 100k on torrent uploads from my desktop. BT throttles i assume
[15:41] <daftykins> directhex: have you got another web link to snatch it and boost the torrent?
[15:42] <directhex> damn google drive that was supposed to be a public link
[15:42] <directhex> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0RgGqWAMEw8VWJMUVc4SXZ1UFU/view?usp=sharing
[15:42] <directhex> grab it before google cuts me off :x
[15:43] <bigcalm> Got it!
[15:44] <diddledan__> my ratios are pretty awesome on there: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hb083u74k1k1p37/Screenshot%202015-11-10%2015.43.58.png?dl=0
[15:46] <daftykins> i shall seed until i need some bandwidth ;D
[15:46] <daftykins> since windows 10's autumn update comes out today
[15:46] <diddledan__> it does?
[15:46] <daftykins> mhmm
[15:48] * bigcalm pauses the seeding of Ubuntu Mate 15.10
[15:50] <directhex> xbox one win10 upgrade on thursday!
[15:50] <daftykins> indeed 8D
[15:50] <daftykins> i'm wondering how big it'll be
[15:50] <zmoylan-pi> so people can panic on friday \o/
[15:51] <bigcalm> Back to work I go, toodles
[15:51] <daftykins> i bet it'll be like patch tuesday, comes out 9am Seattle time so takes until 6pm UK
[15:52] <bashrc_> got one more person onto ubuntu last weekend. Some initial grumbling, but once they realized they could still use the same apps they were ok with it
[15:53] <daftykins> they can't have used much then
[15:53] <bashrc_> whenever there is a Windows disaster I always use that to try to get people onto ubuntu
[15:54] <bashrc_> no, I'd class them as a basic user. Email (thunderbird) firefox and a working printer and they were done
[15:54] <daftykins> oh so they didn't use anything non-native
[15:54] * zmoylan-pi is giving vivaldi browser a spin and not hating it...
[15:54] <daftykins> you put them on LTS so they don't have to experience the more regular ubuntu disasters? :)
[15:55] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: give ubuntu-browser a go :)
[15:55] <zmoylan-pi> i think i tried that at one point...
[15:55] <bashrc_> I did put them on LTS
[15:56] <bashrc_> with automatic security updates enabled
[15:57] <daftykins> ^_^
[17:12] <davmor2> Hmm trying out hexchat so far looks and feels the same as xchat :)
[17:13] <daftykins> just more updated so i hear!
[17:14] <davmor2> indeed and supported
[17:14] <zmoylan-pi> you want irssi with green text on a black background so you can irc in the dark wearing a balaclava for maximum daily mail hackerness ;-)
[17:14] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: no I don't
[17:14] <daftykins> lmao
[17:15] <popey> I'm using hexchat these days
[17:16] <davmor2> popey: you using any plugins or just vanilla?
[17:17] <popey> nope
[17:17] <popey> didnt know it had any
[17:18] <davmor2> popey: well there is indicator for a start :) and then there is the plugins package which I haven't looked at yet :)
[18:13] <diddledan> flash. just die already. https://threatpost.com/adobe-flash-update-includes-patches-for-17-vulnerabilities/115322/
[18:19] <m0nkey_> I simply don't install it these days
[18:20] <davmor2> diddledan: you can't kill flash how will lazy advert writers make money without it ;)
[18:20] <m0nkey_> The other thing I want to die is Java in browsers
[18:20] <m0nkey_> But alas, I need it for IPMI
[18:22] <daftykins> :(
[18:24] <diddledan> lol: https://twitter.com/Sidragon1/status/664143917051285504
[18:30] <czajkowski> anyone remember how you move a window to a certain number?
[18:32] <daftykins> context = irssi ?
[18:39] <czajkowski> yes
[18:40] <czajkowski> ahh gotit
[18:40] <czajkowski> /window move 10
[18:40] <czajkowski> :D
[18:41] <daftykins> czajkowski: if you've not already, i didn't know that one but "/layout save" is a neat one for keeping a set order
[18:48] <czajkowski> daftykins: aye so I've tried
[18:48] <czajkowski> but somewhere in my evil config it has me joining to rooms
[18:48] <daftykins> o0
[18:48] <czajkowski> and no matter my editing it still autjoins me to them
[18:49] <daftykins> how rude!
[18:50] <czajkowski> I know!
[18:50] <czajkowski> there are channels really I don't want to go bac kto
[18:50] <daftykins> i never learnt the command set in irssi, i just manage my joins by editing the config directly XD
[18:50] <czajkowski> but irssi seemingly does
[20:18] <Myrtti> czajkowski: /channel list
[20:18] <Myrtti> /channel add -noauto #channel
[20:21] <davmor2> czajkowski: well if you will go to these channels you will attract the wrong kinda attention :D
[23:02] <czajkowski> Myrtti: ohh thank you
[23:03] <czajkowski> 23:02 -!- Irssi: Not enough parameters given
[23:04] <Myrtti> /channel add -noauto #channel network
[23:05] <czajkowski> ahh
[23:05] <czajkowski> Myrtti: you're amzing thank you
[23:06] <daftykins> i'm sure that was in the manual :)
[23:07] <Myrtti> not really
[23:07] <daftykins> yes
[23:07] <Myrtti> well, kinda, but you need to know how to read the manual
[23:08] <Myrtti> if you're referring to /help channel
[23:08] <czajkowski> wow there was still autojoins from my canonical time
[23:08] <Myrtti> Just had a mint aero. That was nicer than I thought
[23:08] <czajkowski> wow that is super useful thank you Myrtti
[23:10] <czajkowski> Myrtti: one more question, is there a way to also remove the list of channels from /channel list
[23:11] <czajkowski> the ocd tidy kicks in
[23:11] <czajkowski> so they're removed from autojoin but still show up on list
[23:11] <Myrtti> doing the command above should do it
[23:12] <Myrtti> /channel list is a list of channels you've got configured
[23:12] <Myrtti> not necessarily a list you've got autojoins for
[23:13] <czajkowski> ahh I see
[23:15] <Myrtti> if you want them totally gone, /channel remove #channel network
[23:15] <Myrtti> don't forget to /layout save and /save
[23:17] <czajkowski> nods
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[13:01] <jkbys> こんばんは
[13:01] <hito_jp> こんばんは（かろうじて復活
[13:02] <jkbys> 復活おめでとうございます
[13:04] <jkbys> Ubuntu Japanese Teamのミーティングをはじめます。
[13:04] <jkbys> 発言は日本語もしくは英語(English)でお願いします。
[13:04] <jkbys> 3ヶ月ぶりに貼り付けてみた
[13:04] <hito_jp> そしてこのままおやすみなさいレベル（半分寝落ち
[13:05] <hito_jp> 肺炎一歩手前までいくと体力が壊滅するので注意しましょう……
[13:06] <jkbys> 寝て下さい
[13:16] <ikuyaNOTE> ( ˘ω˘)ｽﾔｧ
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-de
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[08:03] <ShanX_> Guten Morgen
[08:05] <ShanX_> Könnte mir wer vieleicht helfen bei meinen kleinen Problem ?
[08:09] <ShanX_> jemand überhaupt um diese uhrzeit anwesend?
[08:10] <koegs> ShanX_: es ist sinnvoller einfach die frage zu stellen
[08:11] <ShanX_> ok mein Fehler
[08:13] <koegs> ShanX_: kein problem, die meisten reagieren halt auf "ist jemand da" und "darf ich etwas fragen" meistens nicht
[08:13] <koegs> abgesehen davon, ja, es ist relativ früh für den channel hier :D
[08:13] <ShanX_> Ich hab ein Windows Tab und würde gerne umbutu drauf laufen wollen. Kann auch per USB Stick booten. jedoch habe ich diverse Tools versucht win32disc unetbootin Ruffus etc jedoch kann ich diesen nicht booten er wird angezeigt aber das wars auch.
[08:13] <ShanX_> Ach so ok wusste ich jetz nicht bin nicht so oft im IRC
[08:14] <koegs> welches Tablet denn und hast du irgendwo schon gelesen das Ubuntu drauf läuft?
[08:15] <ShanX_> Goclever Insignia 800 Win halt ein günstiges noname . Ja hab viel gegoogelt und nix. deswegen wollte ich mal hier fragen ob jemand vll mehr weiß
[08:16] <ShanX_> wollte nur wissen ob ich einfach zu unerfahren bin oder ob ich mich damit abfinden muss das daraus nix wirt
[08:16] <koegs> wenns dazu noch so gar nicht gibt, ist es immer schwierig, wie hast du denn den usb stick erstellt?
[08:17] <koegs> wenn du schon ein laufendes Ubuntu irgendwo hast, würde ich einfach mit "dd" das Iso auf den USB-Stick brennen
[08:18] <ShanX_> Also mit Rufus Umbutu 14.10 LTS EFI
[08:18] <ShanX_> Win32disc kann man ja nix einstellen und halt mit Netbootin
[08:19] <ShanX_> hab auch ein Win 8.1 usb erstelt der geht
[08:19] <ShanX_> liegts vll daran das Win EFI gpt nutz ?
[08:19] <koegs> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/dd#Live-USB-Stick-erstellen
[08:20] <koegs> wenn du den Stick so erstellst (achtung der usb stick wird überschrieben), dann kannm der auch EFI
[08:20] <ShanX_> mom lese das mal kurz
[08:21] <ShanX_> ok via umbutu selbst hab ich das noch nicht getestet
[08:25] <ShanX_> gibts da unterschiede zwischen tool und dd ?
[08:26] <ShanX_> also kenne mich da nicht so sehr aus aber würde vorsichtig sagen das es das gleiche ist
[08:35] <David1977> Nur mal so eine Vermutung, da es auch ein Problem sein kann....schon mal einen anderen Stick versucht?
[08:36] <ShanX_> ja 3 hab leider nicht mehr
[08:38] <me_xy_> evtl kann dein tap auch einfach nicht von usb booten? zudem wird ja auf dem tab nicht ein x86 cpu sone
[08:38] <me_xy_> sondern vermutlich eher ein arm soc verbaut sein, das kann dann mit deinem x86 oder a64 image wieder gar nix anfangen weil komplett anderer chipsatz
[08:40] <ShanX_> also da ist ein x86 intel atom verbaut. Deswegen möchte ich dies ja versuchen. Und der Tab hat ein boot Menü. Also einmal Windows Boot und einmal EFI Shell
[08:41] <me_xy_> ah doch is ein atom soc...
[08:42] <me_xy_> aber eben, da wird kein standart bios/uefi drauf sein dass du einfach die bootquelle umstellen kannst... das wird wohl default nur vom internen flash booten... du müesstest da erst mal den bootloader modifizieren... oder kommst du ins bios/uefi?
[08:43] <me_xy_> efi shell heisst aber nicht dass du von usb booten kannst... das is bei solchen sachen meist deaktiviert
[08:44] <ShanX_> also ein richtiges Bios wie ich das vom PC kenne habe ich nicht. Per Volume Up + Power komme ich in so ein menü wo ich diverse Möglichkeiten habe
[08:44] <ShanX_> Boot Manager, Boot from File, Secure Boot Option und halt SCU
[08:46] <ShanX_> Also sollte es nicht klappen dann ist das halt so das ist halt ein billig Tab. Da kann man ja nicht viel erwarten...
[08:48] <ShanX_> Aber ich wollte es zumindestens versuchen ^^
[08:50] <ShanX_> koegs mit dd hats auch nicht geklappt =(
[09:23] <ShanX_> ok bin etwas weiter gekommen
[09:25] <ShanX_> hab ne anleitung für ein anderen Tablet ausprobiert. mit xumbutu er sieht jetz den stick aber sobald ich booten möchte kommt aber leider ein fehler.
[09:39] <ShanX_> Geil es hat geklappt
[09:41] <ShanX_> darauf wer ich ja nie gekommen es so zu versuchen
[09:44] <David1977> erleuchte uns
[09:48] <ShanX_> Ich habe die ganze zeit versucht Umbutu 32bit mit rufus zu erstellen. Hat nicht geklappt aber. Dann habe ich ne anleitung gefunden mit Umbutu 64bit und folgenden Rufus settings MBR. Stick wurde erstellt dann musste ich nur noch eine datei löschen und mit der bootin32.efi ersetzen und sieh an es klappt
[09:49] <ShanX_> Tablet hat sofort den Stick erkannt und konnte booten
[09:54] <David1977> ok
[09:54] <ShanX_> dabei war ich kurz vorm aufgeben ^^
[09:55] <David1977> ich bin mir nur ein wenig unsicher was du mit "Umbuntu" meinst...aber ok. Oder ist das vielleicht ein wiederkehrender Tippfehler ;)?
[09:55] <ShanX_> ohw ja hab mir den namen falsch eingeprägt ist mir nie aufgefallen
[09:56] <ShanX_> ohw wie peinlich
[12:34] <ShanX_> Kann man ein Ubutu live USB stick so einstellen das er automatisch in live startet ?
[12:35] <David1977> wenn du dir am code zu schaffen machst, bestimmt
[12:35] <leszek> ShanX_: macht er doch standardmäßig oder nicht ? Bzw. was meinst du genau ?
[12:36] <David1977> leszek: I denke er meint, dass ich bei einem Live Stick anfangs auswählen kann, ob ich es "ausprobieren" oder "installieren" möchte
[12:36] <David1977> und diesen Schritt überspringen
[12:36] <k1l> meinst du die abfrage zu beginn, dass man eine taste drücken soll?
[12:37] <leszek> ich denke da ist ein timer, nach so uns so viel sekunden wird der standardeintrag gestartet
[12:37] <ShanX_> ja aufem PC ja aber nicht aufen Tablet.... Muss jedes mal tastatur anstöpseln wenn man nur eine hat nervt das ^^
[12:38] <leszek> ShanX_: achso interessant. Hatte das noch nicht am Tablet angeschlossen.
[12:38] <ShanX_> ja habs auch heute geschaft. mit sehr viel glück hab ichs zum laufen bekommen
[12:38] <leszek> ShanX_: wenn du den stick auf fat32 mit syslinux erstellt hast (also kein simples dd gemacht hast von iso auf stick) kannst du ja den bootloader bearbeiten und dort das timeout weg machen bzw. nur einen bootbaren eintrag reinhauen
[12:39] <ShanX_> ja nur hab ich kein timer =(
[12:40] <leszek> kannst ja einen einbauen :P
[12:40] <leszek> Das ist recht übersichtlich gehalten bei syslinux: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Config
[12:40] <ShanX_> würdest du mir dabei helfen =P
[12:40] <leszek> upps hier: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Config#TIMEOUT
[12:42] <leszek> ShanX_: wie gesagt, dass kommt drauf an ob du weißt was ich meine mit syslinux und usb stick erstellen und ob du das so gemacht hast. Ansonsten müsstest du dich erstmal darein arbeiten. (Am einfachsten wäre es unetbootin zu benutzen um den usb stick zu erstellen, der benutzt nämlich syslinux und erstellt einen eintrag, der nach einem timeout von ein paar sekunden bootet)
[13:36] <labsy> hi all
[13:36] <labsy> hat jemand mal ubuntu per FAI aufgesetzt?
[13:37] <stevieh> ja, vor ca. 7 Jahren mal
[13:50] <labsy> haha
[13:50] <labsy> ok
[15:26] <Approach> Hat jemand einen idee wie ich einem docker container ein feste IP gebe?
[15:27] <Approach> Wenn der Container nicht im Bridge Mode läuft dann nimmt meine jetztige :-/
[15:32] <Approach> http://docs.docker.com/v1.7/articles/networking/#docker0 --bip wäre laut doku doch der richtige parameter :-/
[15:32] <sash_> Approach: Sehr spezielles Thema, versuchs besser in #docker ;)
[15:32] <sash_> Und Versionsnummern bereithalten.
[15:35] <Approach> thx sash_
[15:36] <Approach> mmhhhh... Server: #docker Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[15:43] <Fuchs> Approach: ja
[15:43] <Fuchs> Approach: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup or /msg nickserv help register for the short version. Make sure to use a valid e-mail address and check for a confirmation e-mail after you registered.
[15:43] <Fuchs> doofes Alias. Dann halt Englisch.
[15:46] <nagetier> Heute kam das Paket 'linux-headers-4.2.0-18-generic', aktuelle installiert und genutzt wird ' linux-image-4.1.0-2-generic' .. ist das so korrekt, werden die header vorher ausgeliefert?
[15:47] <koegs> nagetier: welche ubuntu version?
[15:47] <nagetier> koegs, 15.10
[15:48] <koegs> wird das nicht mit 4.2 ausgeliefert, wieso hast du da was mit 4.1?
[15:48] <koegs> oder ist das ein upgrade gewesen
[15:48] <nagetier> gute Frage, ich nutzte es schon seit der alpha
[15:48] <koegs> würd ich mal beim booten schauen den richtigen kernel auszuwählen ^^
[15:49] <nagetier> koegs, nein, das wurde damals, im Alpha-Stadium, frisch aufgesetzt
[15:50] <koegs> nagetier: kann sein das in der alpha noch der alte kernel drin war, aktuell müsstest du eigentlich mit nem 4.2er Kernel booten
[15:50] <nagetier> Es ist ausschließlich 'linux-image-4.1.0-2-generic' installiert.
[15:50] <koegs> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/linux-image-generic
[15:51] <nagetier> Hm, ja, frage mich nur wie ich das jetzt behebe.
[15:52] <koegs> linux-image-generic installieren?
[15:52] <nagetier> Huch, tatsächlich, danke koegs :)
[15:52] <koegs> http://askubuntu.com/questions/449905/wrong-kernel-after-upgrade-old-kernel-still-installed
[15:53] <nagetier> Joa, klasse.
[15:56] <nagetier> Ok, --reinstall ist hier nicht nötig.
[17:50] <penni> Hi, habe Apache + PHP5 auf meinem Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS installiert. Wenn ich nun im Browser meine PHP Datei aufrufe (über localhost/~username) wird mir die Datei aufgegeben, das phpinfo(); wird also nicht angezeigt. PHP scheint irgendwie nicht zu laufen...
[17:52] <k1l> php modul aktiviert?
[17:53] <k1l> penni: ist das alles aus den ubuntu quellen? oder ist das so nen fieser lampp stack?
[17:53] <penni> k1l: Habe einfach so wie in Wiki und Tutorials beschrieben aus den Paketquellen installiert.
[17:53] <penni> k1l: Wie finde ich denn heraus, ob es aktiv ist?
[17:54] <k1l> libapache2-mod-php5 ist installiert?
[17:54] <_moep_> penni: is dein webverzeichnis in /var/www/irgendwas oder hast du es per hand auf ~username umgebogen?
[17:55] <penni> Modul ist installiert, ja
[17:55] <k1l> mit a2enmod php5 auch aktiviert?
[17:58] <penni> k1l: Wie prüfe ich das?
[17:59] <k1l> sudo a2enmod php5
[18:06] <penni> k1l: Module php5 already enabled
[18:15] <k1l> ok, apache mal neugestartet? einige module übernimmt er erst beim restart
[18:16] <penni> k1l: Jop. Habe auch den PC diverse male neugestartet
[18:17] <k1l> ist die php datei auch +x?
[18:19] <_moep_> penni: liegt die php datei im www root?
[18:20] <k1l> jo, das wäre die nächste frage, ob das vom setup überhaupt abgefragt wird
[18:22] <penni> _moep_ nein, die liegt im Homeverzeichnis im public_html Ordner
[18:29] <_moep_> penni: und steht in der apache config auch das als www root?
[18:29] <penni> _moep_ öhhmmm, gute frage. Wie finde ich das raus?
[18:30] <k1l> penni: du musst dem apache auch schon sagen, wo er denn nach den dateien gucken soll um sie aufzurufen. die einfach nur irgendwo im system zu platzieren reicht nicht
[18:31] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/apache#Webseiten-ablegen-und-aufrufen
[18:33] <k1l> wenn du das im ~userdir haben willst musst du evtl das module dafür starten: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/apache#Benutzerspezifisch
[18:36] <penni> k1l: Habe ich alles gemacht, läuft trotzdem nicht
[18:37] <k1l> auch das modul userdir geladen? und dann mods-enabled/userdir.conf angepasst?
[18:38] <k1l> auch die rechte der ordner und dateien in dem ordner kontrolliert?
[18:39] <penni> k1l: Das erste ja, Rechte noch nicht kontrolliert, nein
[18:39] <k1l> sonst schau ins log vom apache was da genau das problem ist.
[18:58] <CarstenC> Hallo zusammen
[18:59] <CarstenC> hat jemand schon mal versucht den offiziellen Treiber von NVIDIA unter linux kernel 4.3 zu installieren?
[18:59] <CarstenC> ich komme nicht recht weiter weil mir scheinbar die sourcen fehlen
[19:00] <k1l> wohl eher die header. und wo hast du denn den 4.3er kernel her?
[19:00] <ppq> versucht ja, ohne erfolg. das ist allerdings schon eine weile her. in den kernels mit ubuntu-patches (sprich, die der unveröffentlichten +1 version "xenial) sollte die problemursache eigentlich gefixt sein. die aus dem kernel-ppa "mainline" enthalten diese patches ja nicht, deshalb stehen die chancen schlecht, afaik
[19:01] <ppq> nutze so lange halt nouveau, das läuft in den neuen versionen zufriedenstellend bzgl. tearing
[19:02] <CarstenC> ist eine mythbuntu installation mit kernel 4.3 aus dem kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa
[19:02] <CarstenC> header sind auch dabei
[19:02] <CarstenC> ich benötige den NVidia driver für VDPAU
[19:02] <jokrebel> 4.3 ist ja noch nicht mal in xenial
[19:02] <ppq> ja, das wird dann wahrscheinlich nicht gehen, ohne selbst zu patchen
[19:02] <k1l> und waurm benötigst du den kernel 4.3? :)
[19:03] <ppq> ack, nimm einfach nen älteren kernel
[19:03] <CarstenC> nun meine treiber der SAT Karten sind in den Kerneln ab 4.x direkt im Kernel
[19:03] <k1l> CarstenC: mit 15.10 hast du den 4.2er kernel
[19:03] <CarstenC> bei den 3.x kerneln muss ich immer installieren wenn der Kernel ein Update bekommt
[19:04] <CarstenC> k1l: Du meinst damit sollte NVIDIA sich kompilieren lassen
[19:04] <CarstenC> dann versuche ich das mal
[19:04] <jokrebel> hu?
[19:04] <k1l> CarstenC: millionen ubuntu 15.10 nutzer können sich nicht irren, oder?
[19:05] <CarstenC> stimmt :)
[19:05] <CarstenC> haben die denn auch alle den NVIDIA Treiber :) ?
[19:05] <k1l> CarstenC: was sagt denn "lsb_release -d"?
[19:05] <nagetier> CarstenC, läuft unter 4.2
[19:06] <jokrebel> warum sollte man den denn selber kompilieren müssen? Die zwingende Notwendigkeit Deiner Vorgehensweisen erschließt sich mir nicht gänzlich.
[19:06] <TeXnicer> Moin! Gibt es schon eine patentschnittstelle um z.B: Fotos vom Android-Telefon auf einen Rechner zu übertragen? Wie macht ihr es?
[19:06] <ppq> hoi TeXnicer. ich nehm MTP
[19:06] <TeXnicer> Bluetooth, FTP, Mail, ...
[19:06] <TeXnicer> MTP? Ich gucke mal... nie gehört, bis jetzt
[19:06] <ppq> es gibt aber auch noch was anderes, das auch über USB geht, weiß den namen davon grad nicht. das geht oft auch, wenn MTP zikt
[19:06] <TeXnicer> mobile transfer protokoll?
[19:06] <ppq> +c
[19:07] <ppq> ja
[19:07] <k1l> TeXnicer: mtp sollte ab 14.04 ootb funktionieren. jedenfalls bei der gnome3 basis
[19:07] <TeXnicer> jepp habe ich <= auf allen rechnern
[19:08] <ppq> k1l, problem bei MTP ist, dass es eine whitelist mit USB-IDs gibt, nur die werden unterstützt.. wenn das handy also neuer ist als die verwendete libmtp, muss man frickeln
[19:08] <TeXnicer> Danke! Gibts das auch schon mit GUI? Dann kann ich das meiner 60jährigen Nachbarin auch gleich einrichten, bzw. macht die Selbst :D
[19:08] <TeXnicer> Vermutlich nicht ;=
[19:08] <TeXnicer> ;)
[19:08] <CarstenC> jokrebel: ich wollte nur den nvidia treiber installieren
[19:09] <ppq> TeXnicer, das können die meisten dateimanager, die vorinstalliert sind
[19:09] <k1l> TeXnicer: im best-case einfach per usb anstöpslen und der nautilus öffnet es
[19:09] <CarstenC> dafür braucht der Treiber eine Kompilierumgebung und Header
[19:09] <CarstenC> DKMS wäre ggf noch eine Alternative
[19:09] <ppq> CarstenC, hoffentlich brav aus den ubuntu-paketquellen mit dkms ;)
[19:10] <CarstenC> ppq: wenn Du mir sagst wo ich sie finde. Ich komme eher von Fedora/RH
CarstenC: was sagt denn "lsb_release -d"?
[19:11] <ppq> CarstenC, menü → einstellungen → zusätzliche treiber
[19:11] <TeXnicer> ppq: Ja, das wäre klasse. Vielen Dank, ich lese es mir mal durch und teste. :)
[19:11] <jokrebel> CarstenC: Also ich lass die immer mit den Bordmitteln die "zusätzlichen Treiber" suchen und installieren. Da muss man nichts händisch kompilieren.
[19:12] <ppq> jokrebel, passiert dann halt magisch im hintergrund ;)
[19:13] <jokrebel> ppq: Deshalb ja auch das "händisch" ;-)
[19:14] <CarstenC> jokrebel: auch nicht wenn man den 4.2 kernel in mythbuntu 14.04.2 einbaut?
[19:20] <jokrebel> warum auch immer der Orginal-Kernel nicht reicht.
[19:24] <jokrebel> ...ooO( Treiber ist jetzt direkt im Kernel und ich brauch den dadurch nicht als Modul laden lassen sehe ich jetzt nicht als ausreichende Begründung )
[19:27] <jokrebel> +vom vorgegebenen System abzuweichen
[19:33] <k1l> CarstenC: es gibt das enablement stack für die LTS versionen, die die kernel der nachfolgenden ubuntu versionen backporten. der 15.10 4.2er kernel ist da noch nicht offiziell drin aber es sollte schon nen 4.2er kernel zum testen in den quellen sein
[19:42] <CarstenC> ok
[19:42] <CarstenC> k1l: ist schon bekannt wann 14.04.4 kommt?
[19:42] <CarstenC> LTS
[19:43] <mrkramps> iirc januar 16
[19:43] <k1l> steht im release plan
[19:43] <CarstenC> ok
[19:44] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[19:44] <k1l> ist der 6.feb.
[19:44] <mrkramps> immerhin nur einen monat daneben … nicht wieder ein ganze jahr =D
[19:45] <k1l> :)
[20:22] <thekillingskull_> hy, ich möchte meine cam einschalten. hatte auf meinem medion akoya 1210 14.04 trusty jar installiert und dabei die cam aus/ nicht eingeschaltet. jetzt upgedatet auf 15.xx . wie kann ich die cam ein/ausschalten? danke
[20:23] <k1l> webcam starten? starte doch einfach ein program, was sie nutzt
[20:25] <thekillingskull_> hy kil :) z.b. skype? ich wurde gestern auf facebook angerufen. was nicht ging,weil fb keine cam erkennen konte...?
[20:25] <bekks> facebook kann auch nichts erkennen, weil facebook kein Programm sondern eine Webseite ist :)
[20:27] <thekillingskull_> ok.hab jetz mal skype geöffnet...
[20:27] <k1l> thekillingskull_: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/webcam
[20:28] <Loetmichel> so mal als zwischenruf: medion laptops brauchen öfter mal ein spezielles tool das die tastatur"hotkeys" für cam und wlan und BT abfängt und die gerätschaften ein/ausschaltet
[20:29] <Loetmichel> oft funktioniert das nur unter xp oder win7, mit was immer die kisten ausgeliefert wurden
[20:29] <thekillingskull_> ich kann in dem skype-feld nichts von kamera finden....
[20:29] <Loetmichel> hab ich mich auch schon drüber geärgert
[20:30] <thekillingskull_> bei der wiki.ubuntuusers.de/webcam hab ich gestern schon rumgegraben...betrifft das nur externe cameras?
[20:36] <bekks> NEin, denn letztlich sind fast alle Kameras, extern wie intern, per USB angeschlossen.
[20:36] <thekillingskull_> ok
[20:39] <nagetier> guvcview könnte man mal testen.. dort sollte die cam erkannt und auch eingestellt werden
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> zum cam identifizieren hatte ich gestern -E1210:~$ lsusb
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. USB 2.0 multicard reader
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 4971:ce23 SimpleTech
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c00e Logitech, Inc. M-BJ58/M-BJ69 Optical Wheel Mouse
[20:39] <thekillingskull_> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[20:40] <bekks> Bitte benutze einen Pastebin.
[20:40] <thekillingskull_> eingegeben. wobei wohl keine cam identifieziert wurde
[20:40] <thekillingskull_> gern, wie geht pastebin?
[20:40] <bekks> Steht im Topic :)
[20:41] <Loetmichel> bekks: sind sie, auch bei medion. aber leider über einen propetären schalter
[20:42] <bekks> Ah.
[20:42] <Loetmichel> und wenn man nicht weiss wie man dem usb-port "saft" aufschaltet wirds nix mit wlan und cam
[20:42] <Loetmichel> wie gesagt, hab ich mich auch schon drüber geärgert die tage
[20:43] <thekillingskull_> topic...sind die oberen zeilen in diesem chat? da steht aber nur pastebin undnicht wie das geht
[20:43] <Loetmichel> ich musste echt ein xp aufspielen, die "treiber" für die hotkeys installieren. beides einschalten und dann wieder ubuntu-pladde rein
[20:44] <Loetmichel> zum glück merkt er sich das
[20:44] <bekks> thekillingskull_: Wie geht denn eine Webseite? MAn tippt sie im Browser ein und drückt Enter :)
[20:45] <k1l> thekillingskull_: wie in photo hochladen, nur mit text :)
[20:45] <Loetmichel> (s schon ein älteres notebook)
[20:48] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ok,das verstehich jetzt. aber welche website soll ich denn dazu üffnen, das tehen so viele...
[20:51] <thekillingskull_> bekks: wohl so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13218805/
[20:53] <bekks> Jenau... :)
[20:54] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ok. dann bekomm ich den text als mail??
[20:55] <k1l> drück mal fn+f6
[20:55] <k1l> und dann nochmal nen lsusb zeigen
[20:57] <thekillingskull_> kil: hab ich, ist das selbe wie vorher
[20:58] <k1l> dann kommst du wohl um ein bios upgrade nicht herum.
[20:59] <k1l> siehe https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/intergrierte-webcam-wird-nicht-erkannt/
[20:59] <thekillingskull_> kil: aha. ichh ab doch grad erst auf 15.04? upgegraded...?
[20:59] <k1l> das hat mit ubuntu nichts zu tun.
[20:59] <k1l> das geht um das bios und die acpi kram.
[21:08] <bekks> thekillingskull_: Nein, wieso?
[21:09] <bekks> thekillingskull_: Du hast den Text dort hochgeladen, das Resultat ist http://paste.ubuntu.com/13218805/
[21:10] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ich muss mich dort erstmal mit mailadresse anmelden...die is aber schon gemeldet...puh :(
[21:11] <bekks> Muss man doch garnicht...
[21:12] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ja,ok...schön. :) aber was mach ich jetzt damit? daownload als text? dann...muss ich mich dort erstmal anmelden mit mailadresse...
[21:12] <bekks> Man gibt irgendwas als "Name" ein, wählt eine Syntax aus, dübelt den Text da rein, und drückt "Paste!"
[21:12] <k1l> thekillingskull_: es ging nur darum uns den text hier zu velrinken
[21:12] <k1l> *verlinken
[21:12] <k1l> thekillingskull_: das hat geklappt. denk da jetzt nicht weiter drüber nach.
[21:12] <bekks> Da muss man sich nirgendwo anmelden, auf http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:13] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ach so. wie drücke ich paste...? was ist eine syntax.
[21:14] <k1l> thekillingskull_: es geht nur darum, dass man hier nciht 500zeilen text reinkippt ins irc, sondern den link aushändigt
[21:14] <bekks> Du bewegst die Maus, bis sie über dem Knopf ist, der mit "Paste!" beschriftet ist, hälst sie ganz ruhig, und drückst die linke Maustaste :)
[21:14] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ach da paste. klar :)
[21:15] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ja, schön. das hatte ich ja schon. was mach ich jetzt mit dem resulatat? es gibt die möglichkeit: download als test...?
[21:16] <thekillingskull_> bekks:text
[21:16] <thekillingskull_> bekks: kopiere ich einfach die browserzeile hier rein?
[21:17] <thekillingskull_> bekks. danke für die maus-erklärung...zum glück kann ich schon gans allein eine bierflasche öffnen...sonst wär ich nicht lebensfähig
[21:18] <bekks> Das hast du doch schon getan...
[21:18] <thekillingskull_> lsub-ergebnis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13218953/
[21:18] <bekks> 1110 215121 < thekillingskull_> bekks: wohl so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13218805/
[21:18] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ok. puh. pastebin. merken.
[21:20] <thekillingskull_> bekks: ok,danke. weiter mit
[21:20] <thekillingskull_> kil:
[21:21] <thekillingskull_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/439856
[21:22] <k1l> thekillingskull_: ja schön. was sagt uns das jetzt?
[21:23] <thekillingskull_> kil: auf dem von dir empfohlenen https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/intergrierte-webcam-wird-nicht-erkannt/ wird dorthin verwiesen
[21:23] <thekillingskull_> kil: und mir sagt das leider garnix...
[21:24] <k1l> thekillingskull_: ja. aber der thread geht noch weiter
[21:24] <k1l> der bug von 2010 mit kernel versionen von 2.6 hilft dir hier nicht weiter. erst recht wenn es ein komplett anderes problem ist
[21:25] <k1l> deswegen habe ich ja vorhin gefragt, dass du fn+f6 (was wohl der webcam an/aus shortcut ist) drückst udn dann nochmal ein "lsusb" in einem pastebin zeigst.
[21:26] <k1l> weil wenn es da dann nicht 5986:0141 Acer, Inc auftaucht, dann kannst du in deinem system aktuell die kamera nicht anschalten.
[21:27] <thekillingskull_> kll: ok,danke. dann muss ich ein bios update machen. wie geht denn das?? puh
[21:27] <k1l> klick auf den link dort.
[21:28] <k1l> kann auch sein, dass man da ein windows booten kann, dann die kamera anstellen, dann wieder ins ubuntu und da sollte anbleiben. so wie Loetmichel vorhin beschrieben hat.
[21:31] <thekillingskull_> kil: ok,tx
[21:31] <k1l> auf gut deutsch: das ist keine aufgabe für einen computer anfänger.
[21:34] <thekillingskull_> kil: ok. ich geb das mal an meinen spezi weiter, der mir das linus aufgeschwätzt und eingerichtet hat. mal schaun, was der dazu sagt,der wird mir dann da (evtl auch mit einem persönlichen besuch) evtl weiterhelfen :)
[21:35] <k1l> zeig ihm den thread da. dann wird er schon wissen ob er sich das antut
[21:35] <thekillingskull_> kil: ok tx
[21:40] <thekillingskull_> kil: wie zeige ich ihm diesen thread? gibts da nlink? oder n namen?
[21:41] <k1l> den thread aus dem ubuntusers forum
[21:44] <thekillingskull_> kil: wo is das ubuntusers forum?
[21:44] <k1l> thekillingskull_: das hattest du doch eben schon offen
kil: auf dem von dir empfohlenen https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/intergrierte-webcam-wird-nicht-erkannt/ wird dorthin verwiesen
[21:45] <thekillingskull_> kil: ja, hab die seite...forum-klick :)
[21:47] <thekillingskull_> kil: hm.bin ratlos...wie finde ich jetzt da diesen thread hier?
[21:47] <k1l> thekillingskull_: hier ist IRC: hier ist kein thread
[21:48] <k1l> du sollst deinem spezi den forums thread zeigen. den du eben schon offen hattest
[21:49] <thekillingskull_> kil: ach so. ich soll ihm den thread dort zeigen.ok. kann er diesen irl auch nachlesen? oder ich paste es in eine txt und schick ihm diese...
[21:49] <k1l> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/10/%23ubuntu-de.html da ist das log vom heutigen Tage von diesem IRC kanal.
[21:55] <thekillingskull_> kil: ok,suppe r,tx. wenn du mal in muc biest,geb ich dir ein bier aus (y)
[23:47] <exoplanet> hallo ist multiarch standardmäßig aktiviert in 14.04?
[23:48] <k1l> ja
[23:55] <exoplanet> Danke
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[14:39] <thebwt> Good morning folks.
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[18:11] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:54] <olly_> morning
[22:55] <chilts> morning, just
[23:55] <olly_> the url in topic doesn't work
[23:56] <olly_> http://ubuntu-nz.org that is
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"ibeardslee",
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[10:15] * xnox has no internets at home, hence i was not online =(
[10:15] <xnox> sorry chiluk
[13:42] <chiluk> lol xnox... it's all good man.. just make the next one. You are at intel now right? You seem to be thriving there.
[16:00] <hallyn> hey all
[16:01] <arges> hey
[16:01] * hallyn not sure whether noone is around o r whether he showed up too late for everyone waving
[16:02] <arges> i don't think anything has started yet
[16:02] <hallyn> i'll start in 1 min i guess
[16:02] <hallyn> no, i'm starting it today :)
[16:02] <arges> ah
[16:02] <matsubara> o/
[16:02] <hallyn> #startmeeting
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 10 16:02:55 2015 UTC. The chair is hallyn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:03] <hallyn> no actions,
[16:03] <hallyn> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[16:03] <hallyn> making our way toward the nov 26 feature definition freeze.
[16:04] <hallyn> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:04] <hallyn> i see 5 bugs, 1 critiical...
[16:04] <hallyn> smoser: jamespage: were you wanting to go throughthe bugs?
[16:05] <hallyn> (early in the cycle...)
[16:05] <smoser> lets skip . unless omeon really wants to.
[16:05] <hallyn> k
[16:05] <smoser> well.. .why not.
[16:05] <smoser> let me load
[16:05] <smoser> acutally i think all those things there are "mine"
[16:06] <hallyn> ok, let's move on :)
[16:06] <smoser> or utlemming or cloud images team.s o... lets move on
[16:06] <hallyn> thx
[16:06] <hallyn> rbasak: anything you wanted to discuss?
[16:06] <rbasak> o/
[16:06] <rbasak> I'd like to defer this to next week please. I'm still gathering what needs to be done for this cycle.
[16:07] <hallyn> np, moving on
[16:07] <hallyn> no caribou here
[16:07] <hallyn> so on to
[16:07] <hallyn> matsubara: \o
[16:07] <matsubara> Hi there, we finally got a jenkins instance from IS. https://server-team-jenkins.canonical.com/ and I'll be populating it initially with curtin integration test jobs
[16:08] <matsubara> and I'll help migrate our smoketests (iso tests) from some other jenkins instance into that one
[16:08] <matsubara> also, seb128 was looking for ubuntu-devels to review test case changes
[16:08] <matsubara> let me just grab the link
[16:09] <matsubara> https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/lvm-grub-preseed-fix/+merge/258620 and https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-test-cases/fix_minimal_image_size_test/+merge/235298
[16:09] <hallyn> should that be an action for everyone to look that over, youthink?
[16:09] <matsubara> I pinged rbasak earlier on to take a look and he asked me to ping again if he forgets
[16:09] <matsubara> so here's a ping and action :-)
[16:09] <hallyn> heh,
[16:10] <hallyn> #action rbasak look at https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/lvm-grub-preseed-fix/+merge/258620 and https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-test-cases/fix_minimal_image_size_test/+merge/235298
[16:10] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak look at https://code.launchpad.net/~psivaa/ubuntu-test-cases/lvm-grub-preseed-fix/+merge/258620 and https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu-test-cases/fix_minimal_image_size_test/+merge/235298
[16:10] <matsubara> that's all I have for today hallyn, thanks!
[16:10] <hallyn> (and presumably delegate :)
[16:10] <rbasak> ack
[16:10] <hallyn> thank you,
[16:10] <hallyn> fosdem's devroom cfps shoudl all be open the next few weeks,
[16:10] <hallyn> (including a container one)
[16:11] <hallyn> anything else?
[16:11] <hallyn> ok, moving on,
[16:11] <hallyn> nothing i know of.
[16:12] <hallyn> (will give it another 30 secs)
[16:13] <hallyn> i have a feeling only 4 of us made it for the time change, and we're not feeling chatty...
[16:13] <hallyn> ok,
[16:13] <hallyn> That'll be Tuesday Nov 17, 16:00 UTC, the honorable rbasak presiding
[16:14] <Beret> cool
[16:14] <hallyn> thanks all
[16:14] <hallyn> #endmeeting
[16:14] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 10 16:14:08 2015 UTC.
[16:14] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-10-16.02.moin.txt
[16:14] <rbasak> Thanks hallyn!
[16:14] <Beret> hallyn, thanks
[16:14] <hallyn> Announce next meeting date, time and chair \o
[16:14] <hallyn> bleh
[16:14] <hallyn> \o
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-tn
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[08:18] <elacheche> Morning loco!
[08:24] <d4rk-5c0rp> morning elacheche
[08:24] <d4rk-5c0rp> :p
[08:27] <elacheche> :)
[11:12] <Chikore_> Morning elacheche d4rk-5c0rp SalahMessaoud
[11:22] <SalahMessaoud> GM channel o/
[11:22] <elacheche> CM!
[11:22] <elacheche> GM!
[19:26] <elacheche_anis> chargui: o/
[19:30] <chargui> hi elacheche_anis o/
[19:32] <elacheche_anis> no updates on the pad
[19:32] <chargui> why your cloak is different than mine :3 I want ubuntu cloak :v I'm jealous now
[19:33] <chargui> too little updates in the days/hours section
[19:39] <elacheche_anis> no updates at all everywhere :p
[19:40] <elacheche_anis> chargui: This is why I have an Ubuntu cloak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[19:46] <chargui> ahh yes tfakert li enti uubuntu member :3
[19:56] <elacheche_anis> :)
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> chargui:
[20:15] <elacheche_anis> I'll prepare my planning proposition by the next Saturday.. Is that OK for you? I think you'll have time to share the pad with others..
[20:18] <chargui> elacheche_anis, ok i'll share it with the others
[20:18] <elacheche_anis> :)
[20:19] <elacheche_anis> I'll try to make a good planning based on all what is written in that pad, and based on all our discussion in here :)
[20:21] <chargui> ok thank you anis ^_^
[20:22] <elacheche_anis> :)
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-gnome
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[06:04] <jonne> hey, i've got weird graphical glitches in QT apps (menu is pretty much unuseable in virtualbox and spotify), anyone else have the same issue?
[06:04] <jonne> http://i.imgur.com/pMcfZ97.png
[06:06] <jonne> i got i195 integrated graphics, btw
[06:45] <darkxst> jonne, try a qt/kde channel? we just inherit qt from ubuntu
[06:46] <jonne> well, i'm assuming this is a gnome-shell bug, but you do have a good point that i should check if it does the same thing in unity
[06:46] <jonne> i don't think i have it installed, though
[06:47] <darkxst> jonne, virtualbox is fine here btw
[06:48] <jonne> what gfx card do you have?
[06:48] <darkxst> nvidia
[06:48] <jonne> multi monitor?
[06:48] <darkxst> yes
[06:48] <jonne> just trying to find out the differences, thanks
[06:51] <jonne> i don't have any alternative desktops installed :/
[06:51] <jonne> don't want to install one either, as that usually introduces weirdness
[13:17] <ivan`_> hi, I'm on GNOME Ubuntu 15.10 having a lot of trouble starting gnome-session on my Haswell/UEFI/nvidia 970 GTX system; I see "gnome-shell[pid]: segfault at 64 ip ... sp ... error 4 in libcogl.so.20.3.0[...]" in dmesg every time. I'm using nvidia-358 from the graphics-drivers PPA
[13:17] <ivan`_> some archlinux forum thread suggested updating CPU microcode, but dmesg shows it getting updated and I see the same segfault
[13:17] <ivan`_> also tried updating the Asus Z97-A BIOS to the latest 2601 version, but still the same
[13:17] <ivan`_> is there another configuration or nvidia driver I should try?
[13:53] <ivan`_> I guess this might be fixed in libcogl 1.22? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747489
[13:55] <ivan`_> nope, still crashes with the libcogl.so.20.4.1 in libcogl20 1.22.0-1 in 16.04
[13:56] <LinDol> hi all
[16:16] <alandipert> darkxst, i saw that, but i think it's a different bug... that did happen, but i think during boot after i restarted when the scary bug happened
[16:17] <alandipert> fortunately i discovered i can get control back by alt-tabbing to another window. after that, mouse control seems to come back
[16:43] <howudodat_> hey guys, I am having some problems with suspend to disk on my system. Just curious if I should post in: systemd, gnome, gnome-ubuntu or ubuntu?
[16:45] <shawn> howudodat_: sounds like #ubuntu is the best fit for that
[16:45] <howudodat_> shawn: thanks
[16:46] <shawn> howudodat_: what's the problem?
[16:49] <howudodat_> shawn: system wont go into suspend mode. I can call pm-suspend, or send the dbus message to login1.Manager and it will suspend. but it never "auto suspends"
[16:49] <howudodat_> I have auto-suspend set to 10 minutes in power settings
[20:34] <bcx> i loose mouse cursor when lightdm starts gnome-session, tried org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor, no effect
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-server
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[00:01] <acmehandel> anyone here familiar with postfix?
[00:21] <dork_> acmehandel: yep
[00:23] <acmehandel> dork_ well on one of my servers I am not getting an 'cannog assign requests address' from alt.gmail-smtp.l.google.com
[00:23] <acmehandel> I was having a problem earlier today where this server in question started sending out many many many messages to my email account.
[00:24] <acmehandel> I have this sinking feeling that google has blocked this servers IP address now.
[00:24] <acmehandel> before I was able to figure out how to fix this.
[00:24] <dork_> what do you mean you get that from alt.gmail-smtp.l.google.com
[00:24] <acmehandel> when I tail -100f /var/log/mail.lgo
[00:24] <acmehandel> when I tail -100f /var/log/mail.log
[00:24] <acmehandel> that is the message I get.
[00:25] <dork_> can you pastebin all the relevant lines of the specific message
[00:25] <dork_> or
[00:25] <dork_> you can check your ip's reputation on mxtoolbox
[00:25] <acmehandel> is that a .com?
[00:25] <dork_> sounds like someone used you as a reloy or something?
[00:25] <dork_> s/reloy/relay
[00:25] <dork_> http://mxtoolbox.com/
[00:25] <acmehandel> its more likely that I was careless in using postfix.
[00:26] <acmehandel> as I mentioned earlier. The server started sending out many many many messages for nearly an hour before I noticed it arriving in my spam box
[00:26] <acmehandel> which is was not.
[00:27] <dork_> yeah but where did the messages come from
[00:27] <dork_> you're saying it looped the same legit piece of mail
[00:27] <dork_> ?
[00:27] <acmehandel> no. not the same legit. But new ones. They were fail2ban, psad and logwatch messages
[00:27] <dork_> ohhhh
[00:27] <acmehandel> which unforunately I had set up incorrectly
[00:27] <dork_> how many were in the queue
[00:27] <acmehandel> ..apparently
[00:27] <acmehandel> thousands
[00:28] <dork_> there's a specific limit especially for free gmail accounts
[00:28] <acmehandel> just checked mxtoolbox says no ptr records exist
[00:28] <dork_> so if you fixed a problem and then bounced postfix while the queue was full then chances are yeah you could be rate limited
[00:28] <acmehandel> so I guess I'm clear for now.
[00:28] <dork_> is this just a mta that accepts mail to localhost only?
[00:28] <acmehandel> rate limited does not scare me...at least I dont think it should. right? I just dont want to be black flagged
[00:29] <acmehandel> or banned or whatever
[00:29] <dork_> no ptr means you have no reverse dns, but the reputation part you have to click the drop down menu at mxtoolbox
[00:29] <dork_> yeah it just means you won't be able to send to them for a little bit
[00:30] <acmehandel> I'm actually on two black lists now. SORBS DUHL and Spamhuas Zen
[00:30] <acmehandel> wait no sorry....something doesnt seem right
[00:30] <dork_> what kind of postfix config is it
[00:31] <dork_> local only? is it an open relay?
[00:31] <dork_> satellite/relay?
[00:31] <acmehandel> er.....um....dunno
[00:31] <acmehandel> how can I check
[00:31] <acmehandel> one installled automatically with psad
[00:31] <acmehandel> but not this server
[00:32] <dork_> if it's self inflicted it should be fine, but you should make sure it isn't a misconfigured server that is being abused and getting you blacklisted
[00:32] <dork_> if you want you can message me the IP and i'll check
[01:39] <acmehandel> what is the smartest way to disable a service and prevent it from restarting automatically? i'm going through a variety of google searches and they dont seem to have any specific answer
[01:43] <TJ-> acmehandel: it depends on the init system
[01:44] <acmehandel> its 14.04 I check services using service --status-all if that helps
[01:45] <TJ-> systemctl disable <service>; echo manual >> /etc/init/<service>.overrride; update-rc.d disable <service>
[01:45] <TJ-> that's Systemd, Upstart, and SysV-init respectively
[01:46] <acmehandel> the echo manual >> override one doesnt work. I just tried it. rebooted and the service came back
[01:46] <acmehandel> update-rc.d throws a 'api not stable and may change error' which is not very reassuring
[01:47] <TJ-> acmehandel: it depends on which init system script the service uses
[01:47] <patdk-lap> rm the service file always works :)
[01:47] <acmehandel> what if I just change the permissions to 000 on the service file?
[01:48] <patdk-lap> likely wont matter
[01:48] <patdk-lap> as it is normally run as root
[01:48] <acmehandel> wont matter in what sense?
[01:48] <acmehandel> that it wont have any affect?
[01:48] <patdk-lap> yep
[01:48] <patdk-lap> it would for sysv though
[01:49] <patdk-lap> due to lack of execut
[01:49] <patdk-lap> but not systemd or upstart
[01:49] <acmehandel> just tried the update-rc.d disable method and that did the trick. but still not feeling assured that it wont cause a problem later....whenever that later may be
[04:14] <grendal_prime> I have two nics on conection to atnt_t1 line second to local wireless uplink privider. On rare ocations the wireless provider will go down (usually for an hour) but we need the t1 to act as a backup internet connection. what is the best way to do this . I have an ubuntu 14.04 doing all the routing.
[04:15] <grendal_prime> ive looked at iproute2 but i dont see a fall_back connection config for that..only a secondary gateway .
[04:53] <grendal_prime> i think i found something to work it out
[10:27] <jamespage> bug 1512908
[12:32] <pmatulis> morning
[13:40] <Darkyyy> im getting "unable to resolve host" whenever i use SUDO
[14:04] <Darkyyy> im getting "unable to resolve host" whenever i use SUDO
[14:31] <teward> Darkyyy: edit /etc/hosts and make sure your hostname is defined somewhere in there, assigned an IP in the localhost range (127.0.0.1-127.0.3.255 preferably being one of the IPs you use)
[14:31] <teward> Darkyyy: assuming the 'unable to resolve host' hostname referenced is the local box's hostname
[14:35] <Darkyyy> teward:thanks
[19:14] <impermanence> I'm getting a relay access denied message from postfix. I'm new to postfix. What's the deal? I can send internally, but as soon as I try to hit gmail I get rejected. Can somebody tell me how to change my main.cf to allow me hit gmail?
[19:16] <teward> impermanence: do you mean to send to GMail addresses from your postfix (i.e. your server sends a mail message to GMail)
[19:17] <impermanence> @teward yep.
[19:17] <qman__> Anonymous relay is disabled by default, because otherwise it would enable a bunch of spam by default
[19:18] <qman__> You need to configure who is allowed to relay, either by using g user authentication or configuring allowed relay networks
[19:18] <impermanence> @qman_ are you speaking to me?
[19:19] <qman__> That said, your messages will still be rejected by gmail unless you have SPF at a minimum
[19:19] <qman__> impermanence: yes
[19:19] <impermanence> @qman_ when I run the same config on a box not in the cloud they reach domains more weird than gmail.
[19:20] <impermanence> @qman_ I'm pretty sure it has something to do with poor configs in my main.cf
[19:21] <dork> impermanence: are you the guy that was here yesterday
[19:21] <qman__> impermanence: as I said, you either need user authentication, or to configure allowed relay networks, and gmail's anti-spam will block you unless you take considerable steps to legitimize your mail
[19:21] <impermanence> @dork unfortunately.
[19:21] <dork> hehe
[19:22] <dork> you're still not able to send to google servers?
[19:22] <impermanence> @dork not from my cloud box. But my local box that works and the cloud box both point to the same mail server.
[19:23] <impermanence> @dork and locally I can send to gmail, whatever, just fine.
[19:23] <impermanence> @dork it isn't a firewall thing.
[19:23] <teward> qman__: since you know more about this, I have multiple domains that relay through a postfix system, set up to take mail for something@tld1, something@tld2, somethingelse@tld3, ... and send to my Google Apps email address. All those forwards there get put into Spam by default, any way to make Google recognize it as 'legitimate'?
[19:24] <qman__> impermanence: if you're using a hosted server, your host may not allow you to send mail directly; go daddy is set up like this and you must use their mail relay
[19:24] <dork> impermanence: can you pastebin the relay errors being generated in /var/log/mail.log
[19:24] <dork> yeah he's on some off-name vps provider
[19:25] <impermanence> @qman_ aws...
[19:25] <qman__> teward: need to make sure you're not on any RBLs, set up SPF, and I recommend setting up DKIM
[19:25] <dork> he had a built up queue from psad/fail2ban/etc that probably all got flushed out but he also has a bad reputation on the known DNSBLs and also has no uniform forward and PTR records
[19:25] <qman__> teward: you also need valid PTR records
[19:26] <dork> and he also didn't give me the ip to check to see if ufw was set up properly, because his main.cf was set to listen on all interfaces
[19:26] <dork> so there's also that
[19:26] <qman__> Ah
[19:26] <teward> qman__: got a guide for setting up RBLs, SPF, DKIM, and valid PTR records given that the mail server's domain is mail.someotherdomain.xyz and all MX records point to that for my domains/
[19:26] <impermanence> give me a sec to pastebin my main.cf I just need to obfuscate company stuff
[19:26] <teward> not RBLs
[19:27] <teward> qman__: the server's not on any RBLs, that's the first one i checked
[19:27] <qman__> good
[19:27] <dork> i'm guessing his domain doesn't have proper SPF records either
[19:27] <qman__> SPF is set up on your domain's DNS server, PTR is set up on your ISP's DNS server
[19:27] <qman__> DKIM is a bit more complex
[19:27] <qman__> and not strictly required, but helpful
[19:27] <dork> it all adds up
[19:27] <dork> basically
[19:28] <dork> but basically all the dinosaur RFCs need to be observed first
[19:28] <qman__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail
[19:29] <impermanence> @dork relay error on pastebin: pastebin.com/zaiyks63
[19:29] <impermanence> @dork main.cf coming up (it's probably horrible forewarning)
[19:29] <dork> did you change it since yesterday
[19:30] <dork> lol
[19:30] <dork> i'm not debugging your python hello world
[19:30] <dork> your code is not forging the required data for the parcel
[19:30] <dork> insanity
[19:30] * dork walks away
[19:30] <teward> qman__: that doesn't answer my question with regards to the domains being served - does the PTR have to point to *each* domain's mail.domain.tld, or if the MX record for my domain is mail.somethingelse.xyz, do I just need to make sure the PTR is mail.somethingelse.xyz ?
[19:31] <teward> qman__: a guide for setting up SPF in this case would be nice, though
[19:31] <dork> teward: there is a galaxy of examples of spf records and what they do
[19:31] <dork> teward: you should read the RFCs
[19:32] <teward> dork: none that I've gotten to work - the pointbeing the mail server has a different domain, and I'm not sure how to add/include that data in the SPF in a way it works/operates correctly
[19:32] <qman__> teward: the PTR has to resolve to what your mail sever tells people it is, when they connect
[19:32] <qman__> not required for every domain it hosts
[19:32] <teward> ok
[19:32] <qman__> and that has to be a valid, real domain
[19:32] <teward> right
[19:32] <dork> all it does it uses a dns record to identify what servers are qualified to send legitimate e-mail on behalf of a domain
[19:32] <teward> qman__: that applies to both the v4 and v6?
[19:32] <qman__> yes
[19:32] <teward> OK
[19:33] <teward> i'll take those steps. any way to verify I set up SPF right though, easily? (It helps I control the DNS servers for my sites, instantupdates for the win)
[19:33] <impermanence> @dork the py code is fine. works beautifully with internal addresses. I wouldn't do you like that pal!
[19:33] <dork> teward: use dig in a terminal and look at various examples by querying domains
[19:33] <dork> like dig txt yahoo.com
[19:33] <impermanence> @dork anyway forget that. look at my main.cf which I'm sure is terrible.
[19:34] <dork> impermanence: the parcel you're creating isn't respecting RFC standards
[19:34] <impermanence> @dork pastebin.com/8m9zhKdN
[19:34] <dork> and partly because your main.cf isn't configured properly
[19:34] <impermanence> @dork I'm sure not.
[19:34] <dork> but if your script were creating a MIME compliant parcel it wouldn't even matter
[19:35] <dork> and if your postfix config were properly configured it would be rewriting the headers properly
[19:36] <dork> unfortunately i need to leave to go back to work
[19:36] <impermanence> @dork np, pal. I'll work it out. I always do. Just wanted to consult the experts first. have a goodin'
[20:35] <Darkyyy> hello
[20:35] <Darkyyy> how i edit my hostname
[20:37] <Pici> !hostname
[20:38] <Darkyyy> yeah i got that part
[20:38] <Darkyyy> what do i exactly fill in
[20:40] <Darkyyy> i can see my local ip and some temporary hostname my hoster put in
[20:42] <Pici> Darkyyy: copy that line, but replace the temp name with your new hostname
[20:42] <Darkyyy> which is ?
[20:42] <Darkyyy> external ip maybe ?
[20:42] <Pici> Darkyyy: I don't know, what do you want your new hostname to me?
[20:42] <Pici> er, be?
[20:42] <Darkyyy> pici
[20:42] <Darkyyy> ;)
[20:43] <Pici> it can be your fqdn if you want., so for example my /etc/hosts has: 66.228.45.177 nullcortex.com nullcortex and /etc/hostname has just nullcortex.com
[22:56] <keithzg> What RBLs would one recommend for email spam blocking currently? Right now I'm just using zen.spamhaus.org
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[06:02] <Mirv> jamesh: publishing mediascanner2
[06:02] <jamesh> Mirv: thanks.
[07:34] <jgdx> Mirv, any idea why [1] wasn't merged/published? I usually don't do that, but should I? [1] https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/611
[07:38] <Mirv> jgdx: you could, but I would have published it if it would have showed at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/publishable
[07:38] <Mirv> I'm not sure right away why it's not shown like that, there's no error state either (or dirty flag)
[07:39] <Mirv> jgdx: ok, it's published! merging after xenial migrates from proposed to release pocket.
[07:45] <jgdx> Mirv, thanks :)
[07:57] <oSoMoN> trainguards: good morning! can the xenial armhf build of webbrowser-app be retried in silo 39 please?
[08:29] <oSoMoN> trainguards: nevermind my previous request, I’ve added a branch to the silo and am rebuilding it
[08:57] <Mirv> oSoMoN: ok :)
[09:07] <Davmor2> jibel our isp is completely down, no TV internet or phone line 😞
[09:08] <Davmor2> jibel could you let Tao know please
[09:08] <Davmor2> trying to rig something up
[09:15] <jibel> Davmor2, okay, good luck with that
[09:50] <oSoMoN> trainguards: can the xenial armhf build of webbrowser-app be retried in silo 39 please?
[10:14] <sil2100> oSoMoN: done
[10:15] <oSoMoN> sil2100, thanks
[10:22] <rvr> popey: ping
[10:22] <popey> rvr, pong!
[10:22] <rvr> popey: I found some issues while testing reminders https://trello.com/c/NljolsaY/2457-342-reminders-popey
[10:23] <popey> oh, thanks rvr, I'll take a look
[11:48] <Mirv> oSoMoN: seems the currently running armhf builds are again both successful (both past the failure points)?
[11:48] <Mirv> oSoMoN: happened to notice you kicked yet another build
[11:49] <oSoMoN> Mirv, yes, I removed a branch from the silo which I suspected triggered the failure, and indeed the builds are successful now, so now I know which branch to blame
[11:49] <Mirv> oSoMoN: ok
[11:51] <jibel> rvr, I don't see any update on silo 1, didyou get any feedback?
[11:51] <rvr> jibel: Nope
[11:52] <rvr> mardy: Did you see this? https://trello.com/c/vijFD6JO/2439-591-ubuntu-landing-001-online-accounts-api-dbarth
[12:23] <mardy> rvr: yes, it's because I actually added a workaround to the click package not to crash, let me reupload a non-patched click
[12:23] <rvr> mardy: Ah
[12:27] <mardy> rvr: ok, can you try redownloading the click now?
[12:28] <rvr> mardy: Same URL? http://mardy.it/archivos/it.mardy.uploader_0.3_armhf.click
[12:29] <mardy> rvr: yes
[12:30] <rvr> Downloaded
[13:54] <kgunn> sil2100: hey, so who on the team would you talk to if you needed to make sure you had the right kernel for a device (flo/n7 in this case) in order to rebuild for debug ?
[13:54] <kgunn> sil2100: is it just the aosp kernel? or do we have patches somewhere (i suspect)
[13:55] <sil2100> kgunn: hmmm, flo you say...
[13:55] <kgunn> sil2100: yep
[13:56] <sil2100> kgunn: I think the best and quickest bet is john-mcaleely, as he would at least know who to poke further - I think he also did the flo/mako device tarballs
[13:56] <john-mcaleely> flo/mako? morphis :-)
[13:58] <kgunn> ah...
[14:00] <sil2100> Ah, right, morphis is working on that now :)
[14:23] <morphis> kgunn: the source is on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-vivid.git/log/?h=flo
[16:12] <rvr> dbarth: mardy: Approving silo 2 (location service)
[16:13] <mardy> rvr: \o/
[16:16] <jibel> AlbertA, kgunn silo 18 approved
[16:16] <AlbertA> jibel: thanks!
[16:17] <kgunn> cool
[16:17] <kgunn> trainguards is there going to be any issue with silo 18 migrating ? has arm64/ppcel fails for Xenial only
[16:21] <dbarth> rvr: \o/
[16:42] <jibel> dbarth, are you publishing silo 2?
[17:00] <dbarth> jibel: just finishing my call, and yes, publishing now
[18:23] <robru> slangasek: would you consider bumping the priority of this rt? https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=86240 staging deployment is horribly broken and this time not blocked by something I can back out.
[18:26] <slangasek> robru: done
[18:26] <robru> slangasek: thanks
[18:44] <rvr> kgunn: Silo 44 is approved, needs someone to publish it
[18:50] <kgunn> rvr: ta
[18:52] <kgunn> trainguards we have silo 18 approved...but it had Xenial ppc/arm64 failures (see the comments)
[18:52] <kgunn> i noticed it doens't appear as publishable
[18:52] <kgunn> but can i ask that still be published ?
[19:20] <robru> kgunn: well if those failures are regressions on those arches then it won't make it through proposed, no
[19:21] <robru> kgunn: I don't understand why qa would even look at a silo that's in a failed state.
[19:27] <robru> kgunn: I'm afraid you're going to either have to fix those failures & rebuild & re-qa, or ask #ubuntu-release really, really nicely if they'll let you regress on those arches.
[19:27] <AlbertA> robru: arm64 has a linker bug we can't do anything about at the moment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1511542
[19:28] <robru> AlbertA: ok. so I'm saying if this gets published as-is it'll just sit in -proposed until that gets fixed.
[19:28] <AlbertA> robru: could we publish the vivid+overlay part? I guess that's more pressing than xenial
[19:29] <robru> AlbertA: I'm finding this "let's break xenial because we only care about vivid" attitude really troubling.
[19:30] <AlbertA> robru: newsflash xenial is broken
[19:30] <AlbertA> robru: in arm64
[19:30] <robru> AlbertA: ok well if you can get a core dev to publish the silo, I can force merge it and we can just let the xenial packages sit in proposed then.
[19:32] <robru> AlbertA: remember trainguards don't publish anymore, so just try publishing it yourself and then if you're not allowed (because there's a packaging diff), then find a core dev.
[19:32] <AlbertA> robru: ok sounds good
[19:53] <robru> slangasek: want to skip 1:1 because we just had the sprint?
[19:57] <slangasek> robru: if you don't have anything for today, we can skip
[19:58] <robru> slangasek: yep, let's skip
[20:01] <kgunn> network fun
[20:01] <kgunn> robru: it's my understanding from AlbertA we were victims on those, arm64
[20:02] <slangasek> I see "xenial is broken on arm64" in scrollback; what does this refer to?
[20:02] <robru> kgunn: right, while you were off I said you could publish & then I'd force-merge to ignore the packages getting stuck in proposed
[20:02] <AlbertA> slangasek: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/634
[20:02] <robru> slangasek: mir fails to build in xenial on arm64
[20:02] <AlbertA> slangasek: sorry, this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1511542
[20:02] <robru> slangasek: and they want to publish this anyway because they claim it's not their fault
[20:03] <slangasek> if it's a binutils bug, it's indeed not their fault
[20:03] <slangasek> however, that bug is fixed in xenial
[20:03] <kgunn> ...."allegedly" :)
[20:03] <kgunn> slangasek: probably just lag in the landing pipe
[20:03] <AlbertA> slangasek: recently? so just rebuild again?
[20:03] <slangasek> AlbertA: it was fixed on Friday IIRC
[20:03] <kgunn> yep
[20:03] <kgunn> makes sense
[20:03] <robru> AlbertA: ok but don't do a build in the train, I'll retry the arch
[20:03] <slangasek> and the bug state in LP shows all of this
[20:06] <AlbertA> robru: thanks!
[20:06] <robru> AlbertA: you're welcome
[20:07] <robru> AlbertA: kgunn: I noticed there was also a failure on ppc64el, is that the same issue?
[20:07] <kgunn> that was a timeout afiak
[20:07] <kgunn> afaik even
[20:08] <robru> kgunn: so should work on a rebuild? I tried it, we'll se
[20:08] <slangasek> +1 :)
[20:08] <AlbertA> robru: kgunn: right
[20:11] * robru --> lunch
[22:49] <sil2100> ogra_: hey! Could you review and approve/merge https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/livecd-rootfs/fix-apt-lists-rm-hook/+merge/273117 ?
[22:49] <sil2100> ogra_: it's already present and working on our vivid images
[22:49] <robru> sil2100: good got how are you awake?
[22:50] <sil2100> robru: still doing some clean up ;) It's not so late here, wanted to finish up some things as we have a holiday tomorrow
[22:52] <robru> kenvandine: are content-hub's autopkgtests new in xenial?
[22:53] <robru> kenvandine: or atleast new since vivid
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-si
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[06:40] <pitastrudl> jutro
[06:42] <zdobersek> hja
[07:20] <slax0r> jutro
[07:26] <zdobersek> ping
[07:26] <jabuk> zdobersek: pong
[07:53] <napsy> jutro
[08:22] <msev-> dz0ny, u here?
[08:29] <CrazyLemon> nope
[08:29] <CrazyLemon> he gone with the wind
[08:35] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek http://www.iflscience.com/brain/you-ve-been-drinking-coffee-wrong-whole-time
[08:35] <Pepelka> You’ve Been Drinking Coffee Wrong This Whole Time | IFLScience
[08:35] <Pepelka> »For many of us, just the mere thought of that first cup of coffee is enough to warrant crawling out of bed in the morning. The nascent aroma of a good blend alone can blast the sleepiness away for many. But, according to a new video (below) from YouTube channel ASAPScience, you’ve been drinking your coffee all wrong. «
[08:39] <zdobersek> da vidimo
[08:57] <msev-> CrazyLemon, dj bom tebe prašov, mislm da je C# jezik.... a se da tole nardit -> if(analogValue < 100) actualState = ppm[6] = 250; ....torej da sta 2x = na takle način
[08:57] <msev-> al kko bi naredu da če je analog value pod 100 je actual state da je na 6 kanalu ppm streama vrednost 250
[08:58] <CrazyLemon> msev- actualState = ppm[6] ppm[6] = 250 ?
[08:59] <msev-> tnx, a to lahko lepo naprej v isti vrstici pišem
[08:59] <msev-> al je vseen
[08:59] <CrazyLemon> msev- ne vem kako tečen je compiler pri c#
[08:59] <CrazyLemon> enim je čist vseeno in lahko cel program spišeš v eno vrstico
[08:59] <CrazyLemon> drugi so pa tečni če je en space preveč
[09:00] <CrazyLemon> pa nasplošno ne vem zakaj bi hotel to pisat v isto vrstico.. keep it nice and tidy man!
[09:00] <msev-> pol pa naprej mam tole else if(analogValue < 900) actualState = 3; -> if(analogValue < 900) actualState = ppm[6] ppm[6]=1000
[09:01] <msev-> a sm prov napisov po tvojem kopitu
[09:01] <msev-> in a je kej narobe če ta ppm skoz omenjam a je to pač vezan na pozicijo analog value-a pa nima veze če je skoz omenjen
[09:01] <CrazyLemon> msev- pojma nimam kaj sploh počneš.. actualstate hrani inte?
[09:02] <CrazyLemon> kaj je actualstate in kaj hrani.. kaj je ppm[6] in kakšne vrednosti on hrani
[09:02] <zdobersek> menda loh das v bracket scope
[09:02] <msev-> ppm[6] je pač določevanje vrednosti ppm signala v mikrosekundah na rc kanalu 6
[09:03] <zdobersek> if (analogValue < 900) {
[09:03] <zdobersek> actualState = 250;
[09:03] <zdobersek> ppm[6] = 250;
[09:03] <zdobersek> }
[09:03] <zdobersek> al moras swappat vrednosti?
[09:03] <msev-> to vem da je kul, za uno ostalo ti pa dam link do kode, ki bi jo rad preuredil -> http://www.lucadentella.it/en/2014/08/01/interruttore-a-tre-posizioni-e-arduino/
[09:03] <Pepelka> lucadentella.it – 3-way switch and Arduino
[09:03] <msev-> dzony mi jo je pa že napisal tako, da bom pol 2 switcha mel, zj ubistvu samo rabm kko povežem to kodo z eno drugo kodo k ma ta ppm not :D
[09:04] <CrazyLemon> msev- ja to ne bo kul kar počneš..k er actualstate = ppm[6] pomeni da ima actualstate 250 vrednost
[09:04] <msev-> ja sam je vezan na analogValue a ni
[09:04] <msev-> če je analogvalue tok je actual state tok
[09:05] <CrazyLemon> msev- ja..ampak v tvojem prvem primeru.. če je analogvalue manjši kot 100 potem je actualstate je toliko kot ppm[6] hrani vrednost preden shranis v ppm[6] vrednost 250
[09:06] <CrazyLemon> ti pa zelis da je actualstate ena majhna cifra
[09:06] <CrazyLemon> če prav razumem
[09:06] <CrazyLemon> torej kanal na katerem laufa ppm
[09:06] <msev-> bom obrazložiu
[09:06] <msev-> ne
[09:06] <msev-> kanal je fiksen
[09:07] <msev-> spreminja se vrednost ppm signala (vrednost je mogoča od 0-2000). Ko je 3-poz. stikalo v spodnji poziciji želim da je vrednost ppm signala na kanalu 6, 250...ko je stikalo v srednji poziciji želim da je vrednost ppm signala 1000, ko je pa v zgornji poziciji pa želim da je vrednost 1800
[09:09] <CrazyLemon> torej spodnja pozicija je actualstate = 1 , srednja 2 in zgornja 3 ?
[09:09] <CrazyLemon> zakaj pol to preprosto napišeš tko..ne pa actualstate=ppm[6] ker bo ta 250, 1000 in 1800
[09:11] <msev-> čak ubistvu actualState sploh ne rabm
[09:11] <msev-> loh bi sam if(analogValue < 100) ppm[6]= 250
[09:12] <msev-> else if(analogValue < 900) ppm[6]=1000
[09:12] <msev-> else ppm[6]= 200
[09:12] <msev-> 2000*
[09:12] <CrazyLemon> a imas tudi ppm[2] ?
[09:12] <CrazyLemon> pa ppm[x] ?
[09:12] <msev-> ja od 1-8 mam
[09:12] <CrazyLemon> aha..ok
[09:13] <msev-> sam ok 4 naprej majo samo srednjo vrednost inicializirano
[09:13] <msev-> od*
[09:13] <msev-> tko da ta je "prazen" ga lahko spreminjam
[09:13] <CrazyLemon> sam če nimas actualstatea potem je tista primerjava s prejsnjim stanjem odvec
[09:14] <msev-> hmm sm vedu da se bo spet zakompliciral
[09:14] <msev-> zakaj pa je ta prejšnje stanje notr
[09:14] <msev-> a zato da switch ne floata
[09:15] <CrazyLemon> samo da ti izpise katero je trenutno stanje
[09:15] <msev-> a moram pol odstrant to?
[09:15] <CrazyLemon> msev- glede na to da ne boš uporabljal več actualstate je to odveč ja
[09:16] <CrazyLemon> lahk pa pustiš actualstate in to uporabiš za debugging da se prepričaš da je vse tko kot mora bit :)
[09:17] <msev-> sm mislu najprej to originalno kodo naložit pa pogledat če dela
[09:17] <msev-> pol pa ta ppm notr napisat pa prek nekega drugega debuga k je že v uni kodi notr k prikazuje vrednosti ppm signalov na vseh kanalih pogledat če dela
[09:18] <msev-> tko da serial.begin pa previous state pa serial. print pa serial.println pa if previous != actual pa vse kar je v bracketih lahko odstranm
[09:19] <msev-> sam pol bo sam od une prejšnje kode notr v void setup-u, od te nč, a je to kul? :D
[09:19] <CrazyLemon> ne vem kaj naredi serial.begin(9600) :)
[09:19] <msev-> to je za debug
[09:19] <msev-> izpiše v serial monitorju
[09:20] <msev-> Button state: 1 ali 2 ali 3 ali mogoče nula
[09:20] <CrazyLemon> pol lahko odstraniš ja
[09:20] <msev-> pri baudrateu 9600 povezava kompa z arduinotom
[09:20] <msev-> gut
[09:20] <msev-> bom zj napisal pa ti prlepu pastebin v preverjanje, profesor Lemon
[09:22] <CrazyLemon> msev- a sm ti omenil da js ne programiram? in vse kar sm ti napisal was a joke?
[09:23] <CrazyLemon> .yt ta da dam
[09:23] <jabuk> All trap music adi da dam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzuVSX33j-g
[09:23] <msev-> http://pastebin.com/nz5xXdtp
[09:23] <Pepelka> #define BUTTON_PIN A0 void setup() { } void loop() { int analogVa - Pastebin.com
[09:24] <msev-> Lemon sj usen, važn da znaš logično razmišljat :D
[09:24] <CrazyLemon> msev- moje logično razmišljanje pravi da nisi nikjer definiral ppm
[09:25] <msev-> ja to je v uni drugi kodi
[09:25] <msev-> k bom copy-pasteov not
[09:25] <msev-> tko da to ni pene
[09:26] <CrazyLemon> dobr tek meni... o/
[09:26] <msev-> analogValue pa analogRead sta pa pomoje že po defaultu v arduino kompajlerju definirana? pomoje
[09:26] <msev-> dobr tek Lemon a maš malco
[10:05] <CrazyLemon> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTbvWodVAAAYeS_.png:large
[10:09] <idioterna> kr kul
[10:10] <napsy> :)
[10:11] <CrazyLemon> but not cool enough! bitdefender je že spisal orodje za decrypt
[10:13] <slax0r> dafuq is dis?
[10:15] <CrazyLemon> linux.encoder.1 smth like that
[11:30] <yang> A poznate kaksno primerno spletno stran, kjer se lahko naredi spisek knjig po ISBN stevilkah, pa da se da downloadat seznam kasneje ?
[11:30] <dz0ny> cobiss :D
[11:32] <yang> aha ok
[11:33] <yang> zgleda, kot da je Cobiss namenjen samo uporabnikom knjiznic
[11:34] <yang> glede up. imena in gesla
[11:40] <dz0ny> ne
[11:40] <yang> .vreme lj
[11:40] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 12.1°C @10.11.2015 11:30 UTC.
[11:40] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 76% severnik 0.5 m/s (1.8 km/h)
[11:40] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 05:56:04, Kulminacija: 10:47:09, Sončni zahod: 15:38:14
[11:40] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 42min 11s, Luna je v ščipu
[11:42] <dz0ny> http://cobiss5.izum.si/scripts/cobiss?ukaz=SFRM
[11:42] <Pepelka> COBISS/OPAC | sl
[11:42] <dz0ny> najdeš knjigo daš v košarco
[11:42] <dz0ny> izvozi
[11:42] <dz0ny> im naš seznam z isbn
[11:42] <zdobersek> EASY PEASY
[11:43] <dz0ny> http://splet02.izum.si/opac/opacxmlservlet?file=1240526942557907m21-001.dat&frm=RIS&n=10&user=online
[11:44] <yang> librarything.com sem nasel
[11:45] <yang> dz0ny: ampak to se kasneje zbrise iz Cobissa - seja ?
[11:46] <dz0ny> 3 dni
[11:46] <dz0ny> https://www.goodreads.com/ maš tud
[11:46] <Pepelka> Share Book Recommendations With Your Friends, Join Book Clubs, Answer Trivia
[11:46] <Pepelka> »Discover and share books you love on Goodreads, the world's largest site for readers and book recommendations!«
[11:48] <yang> ok hvala dz0ny
[11:48] <yang> tele tuje knjiznice ne najdejo slovenskih knjig
[11:48] <yang> Cobiss pa jihnajde
[14:31] <CrazyMelon> what now
[14:31] <CrazyMelon> ping
[14:31] <jabuk> CrazyMelon: pong
[14:38] <msev-> CrazyLemon, dela tist :D
[14:38] <msev-> yeeeey
[14:38] <msev-> koda
[14:38] <msev-> :)
[14:38] <napsy> :)
[14:39] <msev-> zj pa sam še od dzonya dvojno varianto, da mam 2 3-way switcha pa je to to :)
[14:49] <msev-> arduino je zakon
[14:49] <msev-> :D
[14:55] <zdobersek> ne
[14:55] <zdobersek> ti si zakon
[15:10] <CrazyLemon> lol..ne mu verjet - he's just playin' with you
[15:10] <CrazyLemon> :>
[15:22] <yang> dz0ny: libib.com najde tudi slovenske knjige
[15:27] <Pepelka> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Configure Qt5 Application Style, Icons, Fonts And More With Qt5ct http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/2fhVMJZBaC8/configure-qt5-application-style-icons.html
[15:39] <speed-> kaj hekerji.si se vedno niso leakani? :D
[15:39] <zdobersek> ce jih bojo zastonj gor dal
[15:39] <speed-> to bi moglo biti povsod se pred premiero
[15:39] <speed-> :)
[15:40] <zdobersek> sej si mel vse skupej live
[15:58] <CrazyLemon> konec novembra na rtvslo nato pa na jutubih
[16:34] <netkat> morda bojo hekerji.si na partis.si:D al pa so ze
[16:34] <idioterna> al pa obratno!
[16:34] <netkat> :)
[16:47] <msev-> thanks zdobersek zdobbie :D
[17:01] <CrazyLemon> a vi severno od črnega kala poznate nešplje?
[17:02] <idioterna> hm
[17:02] <idioterna> a to je ksn kraj?
[17:05] <CrazyLemon> sadež
[17:05] <msev-> to sm js že slišal :D
[17:05] <msev-> ja vem da je sadež
[17:05] <msev-> sam nism še jedel
[17:06] <CrazyLemon> js ga nisem še nikoli nisem zasledil v trgovini
[17:06] <CrazyLemon> -nisem
[17:16] <lynxlynxlynx> mislim, da so pri nas bolj pogoste panešplje
[17:16] <lynxlynxlynx> pa še to bolj kot okras
[17:19] <lynxlynxlynx> heh,direkt iz knjige: "po okusu zaostajajo za jabolkami in hruškami"
[17:19] <msev-> lol
[17:19] <msev-> aja niso tok dobre :D
[17:19] <idioterna> jabolkami? :)
[17:19] <idioterna> jabolki?
[17:19] <idioterna> also
[17:20] <idioterna> a smo kej za nasilje dons
[17:20] <CrazyLemon> never
[17:20] <CrazyLemon> pacifists for life
[17:20] <CrazyLemon> hm.. TIL you cant spell pacifists without fists!
[17:22] <lynxlynxlynx> :)
[17:22] <CrazyLemon> msev- fyi..kr dobra je
[17:25] <msev-> a kšne slaščice pol tvoja boljša polovica nardi iz njih :D
[17:26] <CrazyLemon> msev- bl težko narediš slaščice..ker je bl mal mesa not :D
[17:44] <CrazyLemon> idioterna a se streljate?
[17:45] <idioterna> ne
[17:45] <idioterna> nc ne trzajo na unem gaming chanu
[17:45] <idioterna> js morm pa gor vecerjo nastimat frocam
[17:46] <CrazyLemon> k
[17:58] <lynxlynxlynx> CrazyLemon: marmeljad se dela iz njih
[17:58] <CrazyLemon> lynxlynxlynx verjamem ja..sam je kr veliko dela
[17:59] <CrazyLemon> ker so majhne koščice notri
[18:01] <CrazyLemon> če jih vržeš v pečico ko so še mal zelene so tudi dobre
[18:02] <lynxlynxlynx> al pa počakaš na prvo slano
[18:03] <CrazyLemon> lynxlynxlynx ko so pečene imajo čist drug okus ker se karamelizirajo
[18:03] <lynxlynxlynx> ah
[18:10] <msev-> lepa
[18:10] <msev-> piškot, karamela, čokolada
[18:10] <msev-> :D
[18:17] <msev-> dz0ny, nevem če mi bo zj prov prišel tist gist za 2 3-way switcha, ker mam drugačno kodo zj...a ti lahko napišem novo kodo pa jo preoblikuješ za 2 switcha...sj ta del da moram 2 button pina definat mi je jasn sam ni mi jasn kko lahko analogValue za posamezn switch definiram
[18:17] <msev-> CrazyLemon, loh pa tut ti pomagaš :)
[18:32] <pitastrudl> kaj se da kak naštimat wifi prioriteto brez da se inštalera kakih appov na ubuntu
[18:34] <pitastrudl> pač da se konetka na drugi wifi AP namesto prvega
[18:35] <pitastrudl> nvm, sem izkljucil autoconnect
[18:38] <msev-> dz0ny, CrazyLemon, bom sam probov pa vama sam pokažem da povesta če je prov :)
[18:39] <CrazyLemon> msev- ni prov
[18:39] <msev-> http://pastebin.com/pmMLEGhJ
[18:39] <Pepelka> #define BUTTON_PIN A0 void setup() { } void loop() { int analogValue = a - Pastebin.com
[18:40] <msev-> zgoraj je za en switch (ki dela) sem testiral kodo. Spodaj pa za dva switcha..does it look legit, js mislm da je prov :D
[18:41] <CrazyLemon> nikjer nisi definiral ppm
[18:42] <CrazyLemon> al je to spet en del kode :D
[18:43] <msev-> to je spet del une kode v katero copy-pasteam
[18:43] <msev-> :D
[18:44] <msev-> drgač pa ja lemon -> volatile int ppm[8]={1500,1500,988,1500,1500,1500,1500,1500};//8 channels
[18:46] <msev-> lepo pol potrjuješ ane Lemon
[18:46] <msev-> :D
[18:47] <CrazyLemon> i guess
[18:47] <CrazyLemon> :)
[18:48] <zdobersek> a zej se se sploh igra insurgency
[18:48] <zdobersek> ce bojo ograjo postavl
[18:49] <idioterna> dunno
[18:49] <idioterna> sm pa ze napisu
[18:49] <idioterna> kaj mormo zdej nardit
[18:49] <CrazyLemon> zdobersek seveda.. zato pa bo en prehod meje kjer bomo vsi čakali
[18:49] <CrazyLemon> tko kot vedno
[18:49] <idioterna> https://slo-tech.com/forum/t653736/p4967547#p4967547
[18:49] <Pepelka> Begunska kriza v Sloveniji 2015 @ Slo-Tech
[18:50] <zdobersek> idioterna: ja sam teb ni za verjet
[18:50] <zdobersek> k si non grata
[18:52] <msev-> zj morm pa sam še en 3way switch kupt da v realnosti probam če dela :D
[18:53] <yang> idioterna: kaj bos sel na metelkovo angazirat aktiviste za odstranjevanje bodece zice, ti si faca
[18:55] <yang> ne samo da je tako pocetje kaznivo, tudi neumno je
[18:55] <CrazyLemon> kje piše da je odstranjevanje žice kaznivo dejanje
[18:58] <msev-> a hočš da ti 30.000 beguncev uleti lol :D
[18:58] <idioterna> yang: sej zato bi pa naredu app
[18:58] <idioterna> da usposobljeni cigani to nardijo
[18:59] <yang> :)
[19:00] <zdobersek> uber for fence takedowns
[19:00] <yang> eh sej nevem neka huda prepreka to ravno ni , verjetno jo v dveh urcah s kombinirkami prerezes pa gres skozi
[19:00] <yang> al pa bodo trampoline zacel s sabo nosit
[19:03] <lynxlynxlynx> še za divjad nam komaj uspeva naredit primerno ograjo
[19:03] <yang> idioterna: tisto vprasanje v zvezi z rutami se mi zdi brezpredmetno, naj jih nosijo, ce jim pase IMO, pol bi mogli tut drede prepovedat pa se kaj drucga
[19:03] <lynxlynxlynx> za nekaj inteligentnega ne bo večja ovira
[19:07] <yang> nevem zakaj imajo nekateri predsodke napram naglavnim rutam in feredzam
[19:08] <yang> ce unim nihova vera zapoveduje taka oblacila, pa naj jih nosijo, saj s tem nikogar ne ogrozajo
[19:09] <yang> ce imamo pankerje pa nevem koga se, nevem zakaj bi blo tisto bolj sporno haha
[19:13] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zOzk0keqU8
[19:13] <Pepelka> SuperDraco Test - YouTube
[19:13] <CrazyLemon> a to je za manned mission?
[19:28] <dz0ny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3UYWK2jeX0
[19:28] <Pepelka> Marvel's Jessica Jones - Official Trailer 2 - Netflix [HD] - YouTube
[19:28] <Pepelka> »After a tragic ending to her short-lived Super Hero stint, Jessica Jones is rebuilding her personal life and career as a private detective in Hell's Kitchen....«
[19:29] <matjaz> dz0ny: !!!
[19:29] <matjaz> končno
[19:45] <idioterna> ej
[19:45] <idioterna> am
[19:45] <idioterna> zdobersek CrazyLemon
[19:45] <idioterna> akcė!
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> ej
[19:45] <CrazyLemon> pm
[21:00] <idioterna> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/plane
[21:00] <Pepelka> It's going to be okay. - The Oatmeal
[21:49] <pitastrudl> njegovi stripi so awesome
[21:50] <yang> pitastrudl: rad beres stripe ?
[21:50] <pitastrudl> tko tko
[21:51] <yang> pitastrudl: Alan Fordi so bli fenomenalni
[21:51] <yang> ampak v Srbohrvascini
[21:51] <yang> zdej jih imas v PDFjih
[21:51] <pitastrudl> neznam dovolj srbohrvaščine da bi bral tekoče
[21:51] <pitastrudl> niti hrvaščine
[21:51] <yang> skoda
[21:51] <pitastrudl> ali srbščine
[21:51] <pitastrudl> :-D
[21:52] <pitastrudl> nisem imel koga da bi znimi govoril katerkol drug jezik
[21:52] <pitastrudl> sam angleščino sem pobral pri zgodnjih letih
[21:52] <yang> mislim, da so stare izdaje danes tudi nekaj vredne na boljsem trgu
[21:52] <pitastrudl> vem da ma fotr ful starih stripov batmana
[21:53] <yang> jsz sem imel preko 100 alan fordov, pa sem jih leta nazaj ze prodal, ker so pocasi zaceli razpadati nekateri
[21:53] <yang> nekd ojih je kupil ki je imel vse cifre od prve do zadnje
[21:55] <yang> men jih je dal pa nek starejsi sorodnik, ki jih je kupoval takrat ko so izhajali
[21:56] <yang> pitastrudl: ce mas stare stripe ki ti jemljejo plac jih lahko prodas na stripoteka forumu
[21:56] <pitastrudl> od fotra so tko da not my decision :-D
[21:56] <yang> za kaksne redke izdaje lahko iztrzis dobro ceno
[22:06] <CrazyLemon> ] <pitastrudl>: nisem imel koga da bi znimi govoril katerkol drug jezik
[22:06] <CrazyLemon> a nisi ti iz LJ?
[22:06] <idioterna> hehe
[22:14] <CrazyLemon> nexus security update je na voljo
[22:15] <idioterna> mhm
[22:15] <idioterna> sm ze instaliru
[22:19] <msev-> https://github.com/tedsluis/dump1090 kle ane k je za napačno arhitekturo buildan (za rpi), a bi blo treba pol za normaln netbook ful un config fajl konfigurirat za bildat?
[22:19] <Pepelka> tedsluis/dump1090 · GitHub
[22:19] <Pepelka> »dump1090 - Dump1090 is a simple Mode S decoder for RTLSDR devices«
[22:23] <CrazyLemon> msev- spodaj imaš navodila
[22:23] <CrazyLemon> building from source
[22:24] <msev-> ja vem sam za konfig fajl je navodilo za raspberry
[22:24] <CrazyLemon> msev- ja..ti jih prilagodiš za x64
[22:24] <CrazyLemon> predvsem architecture potem pa še tiste mirror sitee in podobno
[22:25] <msev-> bom probov googlat
[22:25] <CrazyLemon> googleaj za ta pbuilder
[22:25] <msev-> če mi pa ne rata bom pa uporabu dz0nyjev special sauce :D
[22:25] <msev-> lej lemon pol lah tole nardiš https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz4XSFRjLTI
[22:26] <Pepelka> dump1090-mutability with Heatmap ADS-B and range altitude view - YouTube
[22:26] <Pepelka> »From a movable window in the dump1090 GUI it is possible to load a csv file and throttle the radius, opacity and intensity of the heatmap. Other features: - ...«
[22:26] <CrazyLemon> v bistvu ti lahko to narediš..mene ne zanima heatmap :D
[22:35] <CrazyLemon> ln
[22:36] <msev-> ln
[22:37] <lynxlynxlynx> kaj pa hočeš na koncu naredit msev-?
[22:38] <msev-> uporabljat ta software :)
[22:38] <msev-> mam že osnovno verzijo tega, ta ma pa kul advanced feature-se
[22:38] <msev-> pa bi zj tega rd naštimov, sam je dost bl zafrknen kot un osnoven
[22:39] <msev-> katerega sem sam "make" pognal in je vse šlo
[22:39] <msev-> kle je pa neki zakompliciran
[22:40] <lynxlynxlynx> sam zakaj, to sprašujem?
[22:40] <lynxlynxlynx> a ni tud polno enih portalov, ki to prikazujejo
[22:43] <msev-> tega heatmapa pa to ne :)
[22:43] <msev-> pomoje
[22:46] <msev-> nevem kul mi je to :) težko obrazložim, I'm a nerd
[22:48] <lynxlynxlynx> aja, pol za štos
[22:49] <lynxlynxlynx> sam da ni za topove :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-africa
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[08:19] <elacheche> Morning africa!
[09:45] <craigbrash> Morning elacheche
[09:48] <elacheche> Hey craigbrash
[09:53] <craigbrash> morning Kilos
[09:53] <Kilos> hi craigbrash
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-10-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[13:16] <zequence> USC to be replaces by Gnome's "Software"
[13:16] <zequence> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/11/the-ubuntu-software-centre-is-being-replace-in-16-04-lts
[13:17] <zequence> "Software" has a whole new way of updating the system. The updates are installed during a restart, rather while logged in.
[13:17] <DalekSec> ...So they require you to restart more?
[13:17] <zequence> If you use it
[13:18] <zequence> I know some people mess up their systems cause they interrupted an update
[13:18] <zequence> Easily fixed for someone like us, but not for a greenie
[13:18] <DalekSec> So back to windows days where if you update your browser you need to restart and restarting takes forever due to installing updates?
[13:19] <zequence> I once earned some money helping a guy doing an update from the TTY since he was not able to login graphically because of an interrupted update
[13:20] <zequence> He had called a lot of businesses in town. All of them said, reinstall
[13:20] <zequence> Was a standard Ubuntu install
[13:21] <zequence> Not sure if "software" is the way to go, but I would at least add some auto-recovery thing that happens when you boot, and the system realizes an update had been interrupted
[13:22] <DalekSec> dpkg can recover from a lot of stuff, actually. Just have to hit it hard enough. Yeeeah, I'm not fond of Windows style updates, doesn't matter too much since I won't be using it either way, but still.
[13:23] <zequence> Sure, dpkg works fine, if the user knows how to use it. Shouldn't be too hard to add a script that checks and fixes during boot
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[19:18] <DammitJim> anyone here going to fossetcon?
[19:21] <mhall119> I am
[19:22] <mhall119> DammitJim: are you?
[19:22] <DammitJim> yes
[19:22] <DammitJim> awesome! I'll get to see you guys... it's been like 3 years, I think
[19:22] <DammitJim> do you guys need help?
[19:23] <DammitJim> I'm not sure how much I can do, but I can try to help like move stuff or carry stuff
[20:27] <DammitJim> ok, sorry about that mhall119
[20:27] <DammitJim> I was saying... if you guys need help
[20:44] <mhall119> DammitJim: no worries, I'll be at the booth and running UbuCon, if you want to just hang out and talk to people about Ubuntu that would be a help
[20:45] <DammitJim> ok, great!
[20:45] <DammitJim> do you have to get there early?
[20:45] <DammitJim> I can help you unload stuff from the car or whatever you have
[20:49] <mhall119> DammitJim: yeah, I'll probably be there early on the 19th, not sure what time
[20:49] <DammitJim> anyone else coming?
[20:49] <mhall119> help setting up the booth would be much appreciated
[20:49] <mhall119> ahoneybun_ is coming with some others from down south
[20:50] <mhall119> jose is coming in from Peru
[20:50] <DammitJim> let me know a time and I can see if I can be there earlier
[20:50] <mhall119> and someone from the desktop team at Canonical is going to be there
[20:50] <DammitJim> ah, nice!
[20:50] <DammitJim> Jose, why does he sound familiar
[20:50] <mhall119> DammitJim: thanks, I'll let you know
[20:50] <DammitJim> did the Jose move to Peru?
[20:50] <mhall119> DammitJim: because he's all *over* Ubuntu stuff
[22:38] <ahoneybun> o/
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2015-11-10-#juju-dev
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[01:03] <thumper> davecheney: I'm looking at the peergrouper tests, but they now seem to pass when run individually, but fail when I run all juju tests
[01:03] <thumper> davecheney: I'm expecting it is impacted by load
[01:03] <thumper> davecheney: using your stress.sh script
[01:03] <thumper> but I'm needing something to stress either cpu or disk
[01:03] <thumper> do you have something?
[01:04] <thumper> wallyworld: we need to chat, re: simplestreams and lxd
[01:04] <wallyworld> "we need to talk"
[01:04] <wallyworld> i hate those 4 words
[01:05] <thumper> "please come to the office?"
[01:05] <wallyworld> thumper: did you want to talk now?
[01:05] <thumper> today
[01:05] <thumper> not necessarily now
[01:05] <wallyworld> thumper: ok, give me 15?
[01:05] <thumper> sure, np
[01:33] <wallyworld> thumper: talk now?
[01:33] <thumper> 1:1?
[02:28] <thumper> ugh
[02:28] <thumper> I have found the race in the peergrouper
[02:33] <davecheney> thumper: ??
[02:33] <davecheney> do tell
[02:34] <thumper> there are timing issues between the various go routines it starts up
[02:34] <davecheney> yup, so when you run go est ./...
[02:34] <davecheney> you have 4/8 other test jobs running at one time
[02:34] <davecheney> timing goes off
[02:34] <thumper> sometimes under heavy load, the peer grouper will attempt to determine the leader before it realises it has any machines
[02:35] <thumper> on successful runs, the machine watchers have fired before the other change
[02:35] <thumper> so it knows about the machines
[02:35] <thumper> on unsuccessful runs, it doesn't
[02:35] <thumper> so all the machines are "extra"
[02:35] <thumper> and have nil vote, so fail
[02:38] <thumper> I'm now attempting to work out the best place to sync the workers...
[02:38] <thumper> and best way how to...
[02:42] <thumper> uurrgghh
[02:42] <thumper> pretty sure that's a bit bollocks
[02:42] <thumper> davecheney: using a *machine as a key in a map?
[02:46] <davecheney> could be reasonable
[02:46] <davecheney> asumuing that nobody every creates a machine
[02:47] <davecheney> which could be a problem
[03:06] <thumper> shit
[03:06] <thumper> I can't work out how to sync these things
[03:06] <thumper> davecheney: got a few minutes?
[04:21] <davecheney> thumper: hey
[04:22] <davecheney> sorry, i was at the shops
[04:22] <davecheney> still there ?
[04:22] <thumper> yeah, but sent an email
[04:22] <thumper> I've given up on the peergrouper
[04:22] <thumper> it is a big pile of assumptions I don't understand
[04:22] <davecheney> \o/
[04:22] <davecheney> no
[04:22] <davecheney> /o\
[04:23] <davecheney> i sounds like it needs more synchornisation
[04:23] <davecheney> if parts of the peergrouper assume something
[04:23] <thumper> I added what I thought would be enough
[04:23] <thumper> but no
[04:23] <davecheney> that needs to be replaced with expiliit coordination
[04:23] <thumper> yes, I agree with that last statement
[04:23] <davecheney> the worrying part is i think we can assume it will fail ~100% of the time in the field
[04:23] <davecheney> given it only just passes under controlled conditions
[04:24] <davecheney> this should proibably be a build blocker
[04:24] <thumper> the big problem as best as I can tell, is that it assumes that whenever the timer goes off for it to update itself, it assumes it knows the current state of the machines
[04:24] <thumper> which it does not
[04:24] <davecheney> wrooooong
[04:24] <davecheney> that's impossible
[04:24] <thumper> because those changes come in asyncronously
[04:25] <thumper> and it isn't querying
[04:25] <davecheney> /me facepalm
[04:25] <thumper> I think that what it should do, is explicitly query all machines at the point of trying to decide
[04:25] <thumper> and not rely on just change notifications
[04:26] <davecheney> i think it's worse than that
[04:26] <davecheney> you cannot query a machine
[04:26] <davecheney> then do something with that information
[04:26] <davecheney> an unlimited amount of time can pass between statements
[04:26] <davecheney> any information you retrieve has to be assumed to be stale
[04:26] <thumper> well, in practice, it isn't infinite
[04:26] <davecheney> you have a distributed locking problem
[04:26] <thumper> but it certainly isn't zero
[04:27] <davecheney> s/infinite/unbounded
[04:27] <thumper> I think that for any point in time, it should ask for the current state of the machines it cares about, and use that consistent information to make the decision
[04:27] <thumper> to the best of its ability
[04:27] <thumper> rather than the inconsistent picture it currently has
[04:28] <thumper> but I have no more fucks to give
[04:29] <davecheney> is there a way to query the state of all machines atomically
[04:29] <davecheney> or is it N+1 style ?
[04:29] <thumper> yes, I belive there is an API call to get the machine info
[04:29] <thumper> if there isn't it is easy to add one
[04:30] <thumper> as atomically as mongo gives us
[04:30] <thumper> anyway
[04:30] <thumper> dirty reads and all that :)
[04:31] <davecheney> so, this is going to work 99% of the time
[04:31] <davecheney> except the time when it fails because everyuthing is going up and down like a yoyo
[04:31] <davecheney> in the 99% case, you don't need atomics or any of that jazz 'cos it's approximately steady state
[04:32] <davecheney> in the 1% case, when we _really_ need it towkr
[04:32] <davecheney> to work
[04:32] <davecheney> it's not going to
[04:32] <davecheney> at all
[04:32] <davecheney> this is a poor outcome
[04:33] <thumper> heh
[04:33] * thumper nods
[04:35] <thumper> davecheney: the problem is, as I see it, that any server under load, as it probably will be at startup, the peergrouper will fail the first time through its loop, and get restarted
[04:35] <thumper> eventually it'll probably get settled
[04:35] <thumper> but geez
[04:35] <thumper> how not to do something
[04:37] <davecheney> yeah, that's what I was grasping at
[04:37] <davecheney> under steady state, it'll work just fine
[04:37] <davecheney> which is useless
[04:37] <davecheney> and under load, it'll freak out
[04:37] <davecheney> which is useless
[04:37] <davecheney> hmmm
[04:45] * thumper is done
[04:45] <thumper> laters
[05:44] <wallyworld> axw_: if you have time at any point, could you take a look at http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3046/ and http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3104 for me? not urgent, just if/when you have some time
[05:45] <axw_> wallyworld: ok, probably not till later on
[05:45] <wallyworld> np, no rush
[05:45] <axw_> just wrapping up azure changes to support legacy
[05:45] <wallyworld> awesome, can definitely wait till after that
[08:24] <axw_> wallyworld: are you around?
[08:27] <axw_> wallyworld: never mind, self approving my merge of master into azure-arm-provider
[08:28] <axw_> mgz_: are you able to add "azure-arm-provider" as a feature branch to CI?
[08:29] <axw_> mgz_: or is it automatic...?
[08:38] <wallyworld> axw_: it's automatic, but unless yu ask, it won't get to the top of the queue
[08:38] <wallyworld> axw_: sory, was eating
[08:44] <axw_> wallyworld: thanks
[09:07] <axw_> wallyworld: FYI, PR to merge the azure-arm provider into the feature branch: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3701
[09:07] <axw_> wallyworld: warning, it's extremely large
[09:11] <wallyworld> axw_: ty, will look
[09:29] <mwhudson> oh, not that arm
[09:34] <frobware> dimitern, ping 1:1?
[09:34] <dimitern> frobware, hey, oops - omw
[10:00] <dimitern> voidspace, jam, fwereade, dooferlad, standup?
[10:00] <voidspace> omw
[10:31] <dimitern> jamespage, gnuoy, juju/os call?
[10:31] <jamespage> dimitern, 2 mins
[10:32] <dimitern> np
[11:15] <frobware> dimitern, I moved the openstack meeting to 16:30, but that may be too late for you.
[11:24] <dimitern> frobware, it's fine for me as scheduled
[11:24] <frobware> dimitern, thanks & appreciated
[11:31] <dimitern> voidspace, reviewed
[11:56] <frobware> dimitern, voidspace, dooferlad: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3102/
[11:56] <dimitern> frobware, looking
[12:07] <dimitern> frobware, btw updated http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3088/ to fix the mac address issue with address-allocation enabled for kvm
[12:07] <dimitern> and tested it to work
[12:07] <frobware> dimitern, just saw it. checking my change against voidspace's change at the moment.
[12:11] <dimitern> frobware, hmm, so you decided to go for the full mile there - always using addresses instead of hostnames if possible, even in status
[12:12] <frobware> dimitern, if there's an address that is not resolvable you cannot connect to the machine.
[12:12] <dimitern> (rather than just for mongo peer host/ports)
[12:12] <frobware> dimitern, we're fixing the wrong bug, IMO. We need to fix maas.
[12:13] <frobware> dimitern, see the commit message for why you need to drop unresolvable names
[12:13] <dimitern> frobware, yeah, fair enough
[12:14] <dimitern> frobware, there is however a ResolveOrDropHostnames that does almost the same thing in hostport.go
[12:14] <frobware> dimitern, the trouble is that resolves
[12:15] <frobware> dimitern, let's chat instead. HO?
[12:15] <dimitern> frobware, ok, I'm joining the standup one
[12:53] <frobware> dimitern, voidspace, dooferlad: "maas-spaces" feature branch created
[12:53] <dimitern> frobware, awesome! let's get cranking :)
[12:58] <frobware> dimitern, T-3 weeks...
[13:06] <dimitern> frobware, yeah, it's not a lot, is it :/
[14:31] <mup> Bug #1514857 opened: cannot use version.Current (type version.Number) as type version.Binary <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core lxd-provider:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514857>
[14:34] <mup> Bug #1514857 changed: cannot use version.Current (type version.Number) as type version.Binary <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core lxd-provider:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514857>
[14:37] <mup> Bug #1514857 opened: cannot use version.Current (type version.Number) as type version.Binary <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core lxd-provider:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514857>
[14:49] <dimitern> whaaaat?!
[14:49] <dimitern> damn...why did I spend almost a week fixing 1.24
[14:49] <dimitern> no 1.24.8 :(
[15:04] <voidspace> dimitern: yeah, shame
[15:04] <voidspace> dimitern: and there won't be a version of 1.24 with containers and "ignore-machine-addresses" working
[15:05] <dimitern> voidspace, if 1.24 dies quickly, that won't be a big deal :)
[15:05] <voidspace> dimitern: hopefully
[15:19] <mup> Bug #1502306 changed: cannot find package gopkg.in/yaml.v2 <blocker> <ci> <regression> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core lxd-provider:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502306>
[15:19] <mup> Bug #1514874 opened: Invalid entity name or password error, causes Juju to uninstall <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514874>
[15:19] <mup> Bug #1514877 opened: Env not found immediately after bootstrap <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core controller-rename:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514877>
[15:21] <katco> fwereade: hey ran into bug 1503039 last friday while writing a reactive charm. any reason not to set that env. variable all the time?
[15:21] <mup> Bug #1503039: JUJU_HOOK_NAME does not get set <charms> <docs> <hooks> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1503039>
[15:22] <mup> Bug #1514874 changed: Invalid entity name or password error, causes Juju to uninstall <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514874>
[15:22] <mup> Bug #1514877 changed: Env not found immediately after bootstrap <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core controller-rename:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514877>
[15:22] <mup> Bug #1502306 opened: cannot find package gopkg.in/yaml.v2 <blocker> <ci> <regression> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core lxd-provider:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502306>
[15:25] <mup> Bug #1502306 changed: cannot find package gopkg.in/yaml.v2 <blocker> <ci> <regression> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core lxd-provider:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502306>
[15:25] <mup> Bug #1514874 opened: Invalid entity name or password error, causes Juju to uninstall <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514874>
[15:25] <mup> Bug #1514877 opened: Env not found immediately after bootstrap <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core controller-rename:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514877>
[15:26] <fwereade> katco, nah, go ahead and set it always
[15:27] <fwereade> katco, it was originally just for debug-hooks, when you wouldn't know
[15:27] <fwereade> katco, and you *can* always look at argv[0]
[15:27] <fwereade> katco, but better just to be consistent across the board
[15:27] <katco> fwereade: kk ty just wanted to check
[15:28] <fwereade> katco, cheers
[15:28] * fwereade gtg out, back maybe rather later
[15:28] * katco waves
[15:31] <mup> Bug #1514874 changed: Invalid entity name or password error, causes Juju to uninstall <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514874>
[15:31] <mup> Bug #1514877 changed: Env not found immediately after bootstrap <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core controller-rename:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514877>
[15:31] <mup> Bug #1502306 opened: cannot find package gopkg.in/yaml.v2 <blocker> <ci> <regression> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core lxd-provider:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502306>
[15:33] <katco> ericsnow: did you use git mv for your cleanup patch?
[15:34] <ericsnow> katco: yep
[15:34] <ericsnow> katco: the GH diff is a little easier to follow
[15:34] <mup> Bug #1502306 changed: cannot find package gopkg.in/yaml.v2 <blocker> <ci> <regression> <juju-core:Invalid> <juju-core lxd-provider:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502306>
[15:34] <mup> Bug #1514874 opened: Invalid entity name or password error, causes Juju to uninstall <sts> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514874>
[15:34] <mup> Bug #1514877 opened: Env not found immediately after bootstrap <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core controller-rename:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514877>
[15:34] <katco> ericsnow: i wish RB would detect that and show just the diffs instead of all green
[15:35] <ericsnow> katco: yep, me too
[15:35] <perrito666> ahh RB the source of most of our wishes :p
[15:38] <marcoceppi_> alexisb: is anyone working on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1488139 will it actually make it to alpha2?
[15:38] <mup> Bug #1488139: juju should add nodes IPs to no-proxy list <network> <proxy> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488139>
[15:38] <alexisb> cherylj, ^^^
[15:59] <voidspace> dimitern: ping
[16:00] <voidspace> dimitern: for "pick provider first" for addresses the upgrade step is AddPreferredAddressesToMachine
[16:00] <voidspace> dimitern: that's the same upgrade function used to add preferred addresses to machines in the first place
[16:00] <dooferlad> pro tip: if you uninstall maas, make sure that you get rid of maas-dhcp
[16:00] <voidspace> dimitern: 1.25 already calls this as an upgrade step, so I assert that the backport to 1.25 doesn't need to add a new upgrade step...
[16:00] <voidspace> dooferlad: :-)
[16:00] <dooferlad> two DHCP servers on the same network results in such fun :-(
[16:00] <voidspace> dooferlad: there are about seven billion maas packages
[16:01] <dooferlad> voidspace: indeed. I think it didn't get maas-dhcp when I uninstalled because by default it isn't installed with the maas metapackage
[16:19] <dimitern> voidspace, that sounds good
[16:33] <perrito666> well, in a whole new way of creepyness, google now adds the flight to your personal calendar when you get your plane tickets via email
[16:34] <perrito666> even though, the email was not the usual plain text reservation
[16:41] <marcoceppi_> we need help, our websocket connectino keeps dying during a deployment tanking charm testing for power8.
[16:41] <marcoceppi_> these are the last few lines of the log
[16:42] <marcoceppi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13216926/
[16:42] <marcoceppi_> INFO juju.rpc server.go:328 error closing codec: EOF
[16:42] <marcoceppi_> what does that mean^?
[16:48] <natefinch> marcoceppi_: I think in this case, EOF should be treated like "not an error"
[16:48] <natefinch> marcoceppi_: yeah, looking at the code, that just means it probably was already closed
[16:51] <marcoceppi_> well, we've been wrestling with this for a few days now, and we're suck in that every time after a few mins, the websocket abruptly closes and tanks the python websocket library, which kills python-jujuclient, which kills amulet
[16:51] <marcoceppi_> so we're unable to run charm tests on our power8 maas
[16:52] <marcoceppi_> I'm prepared to provide anyone willing to help logs or whatever else is needed. I've exhausted my troubleshooting
[16:54] <natefinch> alexisb: ^
[16:58] <alexisb> marcoceppi_, is this related to the bug you pointed at earlier?
[16:59] <marcoceppi_> alexisb: it's a machine running behind the great canonical firewall, we've got some things punched through and the rest we're using an http proxy. It seems this breakage always happens around the same time so we're removing as much of the proxy to test further
[17:00] <marcoceppi_> alexisb: long story short, not sure if this is related, we've manually no-proxy listed /everything/ for the environment so while that bug will help, it's not likely going to resolve whatever we're hitting
[17:07] <alexisb> so marcoceppi_ do you have a system we can triage?
[17:08] <marcoceppi_> alexisb: yes, but it's behind the vpn and some special grouping, though I may be able to get someone access if they aren't in that group
[17:08] <marcoceppi_> alexisb: ignore, yes we have a system to triage
[17:09] <alexisb> katco, can you get someone on your team to work w/ marcoceppi_ please
[17:09] <alexisb> marcoceppi_, we will need to make sure there is a bug open to track status
[17:10] <katco> alexisb: yep
[17:10] <alexisb> thanks
[17:10] <katco> marcoceppi_: is there already a bug for this?
[17:10] <marcoceppi_> alexisb: I'll file a bug though I'm not sure the problem name
[17:10] <marcoceppi_> we're not even able to diagnose the source of the problem
[17:11] <katco> marcoceppi_: that's ok, we can iterate on the title :)
[17:12] <marcoceppi_> katco: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1514922
[17:12] <mup> Bug #1514922: Deploying to maas ppc64le with proxies kills websocket <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514922>
[17:12] <katco> marcoceppi_: can you also update the bug with the details of what you've been discussing here, and any relevant logs?
[17:13] <katco> marcoceppi_: (ty for filing a bug)
[17:14] <rick_h__> urulama: frankban ^ did we see something with the websockets closing on us?
[17:14] <rick_h__> urulama: frankban please see if this souds familiar at all and with our 'ping' and such
[17:14] <urulama> looking
[17:15] <urulama> well, it was through apache ... not sure what is meant by proxy in the bug? apache reverseproxy?
[17:15] <marcoceppi_> katco: updated
[17:15] <katco> marcoceppi_: ty sir
[17:16] <frankban> rick_h__, urulama it does not look familiar
[17:16] <rick_h__> frankban: ok, thanks
[17:17] <marcoceppi_> fwiw, I can connect and deploy just fine to the environment, it's when we keep a persistent websocket connection open that it tanks after a few mins of websocketing, or whatever websockets do
[17:17] <marcoceppi_> this build script works without issue on all other testing substrates
[17:18] <katco> marcoceppi_: so it's *just* ppc?
[17:18] <marcoceppi_> katco: well it's the only maas we haver access to
[17:18] <marcoceppi_> it just so happens to be ppc64le
[17:18] <katco> marcoceppi_: gotcha... what do you mean when you say it works on all other testing substrates?
[17:19] <marcoceppi_> katco: gce, aws, openstack, etc
[17:19] <marcoceppi_> katco: this job runs all our other charm testing substrates, which are public clouds and local
[17:19] <katco> marcoceppi_: ah ok
[17:20] <natefinch> it's unfortunate that our only MAAS environment is also on a wacky architecture
[17:20] <marcoceppi_> well, it's not the only maas environment for testing, juju ci has a few they use. It's the only maas environ we have for charm testing and it's maas because no public cloud have power8 yet
[17:21] <natefinch> marcoceppi_: it's a shame it's the only MAAS environment *you* have for testing, then :)
[17:21] <marcoceppi_> hah, yes.
[17:25] <mup> Bug #1514922 opened: Deploying to maas ppc64le with proxies kills websocket <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514922>
[17:44] <marcoceppi_> katco: this seems to be related to http-proxy juju environment stuff. We remove all but the apt-*-proxy keys and the websocket didn't die
[17:45] <katco> marcoceppi_: hm ok thanks that helps
[17:55] <mup> Bug #1514616 opened: juju stateserver does not obtain updates to availability zones <kanban-cross-team> <landscape> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514616>
[17:59] <marcoceppi_> katco: it appears setting apt-http-proxy and other env variables does not do what is expected
[18:01] <marcoceppi_> hum
[18:01] <marcoceppi_> nvm
[18:08] <marcoceppi_> katco alexisb this isn't a priority for today, there are too many sharp sticks in our eyes to get a clear enough vision on this
[18:09] <marcoceppi_> for today anymore*
[18:09] <marcoceppi_> but it's very much a problem we will need fixed for 1.26
[18:09] <marcoceppi_> If getting on a hang out to explain this more helps, lmk
[18:24] <cmars> perrito666, can I get a review of http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3041/ ? it's a bugfix for LP:#1511717 backported to 1.25
[18:24] <mup> Bug #1511717: Incompatible cookie format change <blocker> <ci> <compatibility> <regression> <juju-core:Fix Released by cmars> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by cmars> <juju-core 1.26:Fix Committed by cmars> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511717>
[18:31] <katco> marcoceppi_: just lmk when you get a better idea of what's going on
[18:32] <marcoceppi_> katco: we have no idea what's going on. We just know it's not getting resolved in 2 hours time
[18:34] <cherylj> ericsnow: ping?
[18:34] <ericsnow> cherylj: hey
[18:34] <cherylj> hey ericsnow :) got a question for you about systemd
[18:34] <ericsnow> cherylj: sure
[18:35] <cherylj> ericsnow: was there a reason you linked the service files, rather than copying them over? just out of curiosity
[18:36] <ericsnow> cherylj: was trying to stick just to the systemd API rather than copying any files
[18:36] <cherylj> ericsnow: okay, I was just wondering. I've seen 2 bugs of people doing things we wouldn't expect that causes problems with just using links.
[18:37] <cherylj> I'm okay with making those special cases work around juju :)
[18:37] <ericsnow> cherylj: sounds good
[18:37] <cherylj> thanks!
[18:37] <ericsnow> cherylj: np :)
[18:55] <perrito666> cmars: sure you can
[18:55] <perrito666> sorry was afk for a moment
[18:58] <perrito666> cmars: shipit
[19:12] <cmars> perrito666, thanks!
[20:56] <natefinch> and.... master is blocked, dangit
[21:02] <natefinch> ericsnow, wwitzel3: can you guys review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3103/ real quick? It's best to look at the PR (https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3698) rather than reviewboard, because 99% of the code has already been reviewed, only a few small tweaks need to be reviewed (everything but the cherry-picked merge).
[21:04] <ericsnow> natefinch: looking
[21:06] <natefinch> I just made the worker into a singular worker and updated a test to check that. The last commit is really just redoing work in the first commit, because I cherry-picked the merge afterward (a result of me doing things in the wrong order, but seemed like not worth the trouble to redo it in the right order)
[21:06] <ericsnow> natefinch: LGTM
[21:07] <natefinch> ericsnow: thanks :)
[21:37] <natefinch> katco, ericsnow: ug, looking at the failures on the lxd branch, I think it's just that some stuff changed out from underneath us... but when I rebase, I get 332 merge conflicts :/
[21:38] <ericsnow> natefinch: the patch I have up for review fixes most of those errors
[21:38] <ericsnow> natefinch: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3101/
[21:38] <katco> natefinch: we rebased off the last bless of master
[21:38] <katco> natefinch: i.e. we're intentionally behind master
[21:39] <natefinch> ahh
[21:43] <katco> ericsnow: the patch you have up fixes the things that cursed our branch?
[21:43] <ericsnow> katco: several of them
[21:44] <ericsnow> katco: oh
[21:44] <natefinch> the one I was looking at was this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1514857
[21:44] <ericsnow> katco: not that cursed our branch
[21:44] <mup> Bug #1514857: cannot use version.Current (type version.Number) as type version.Binary <blocker> <ci> <regression> <test-failure> <juju-core:Incomplete> <juju-core lxd-provider:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514857>
[21:44] <ericsnow> katco: rather, the Wily test failures (which will curse our branch soon enough)
[21:45] <katco> ericsnow: ah ok. natefinch looks like you're still good to look at the curses
[21:45] <natefinch> katco: ok
[21:50] <natefinch> my problem is figuring out why there's a compile issue. Seems like we got half of a change or something
[21:54] <ericsnow> natefinch: looks like katco didn't use the merge bot :P
[21:55] <katco> ericsnow: i did not. is it causing problems?
[21:55] <ericsnow> katco: yeah, the merge broke some code
[21:55] <ericsnow> katco: the merge bot would have caught it
[21:57] <katco> ericsnow: oh oops :( sorry natefinch
[21:57] <katco> ericsnow: natefinch: the idea was to get a bless anyway, so skipped the bot. shouldn't have done that
[21:59] <natefinch> katco, ericsnow: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3110/
[22:00] <ericsnow> natefinch: LGTM
[22:01] <natefinch> I gotta run, it's time o'clock, as my 2 year old would say. But I can land this later, or someone else can $$merge$$ as they wish
[22:02] <natefinch> everything compiles now.. . tehre's some maas timeouts, but I'm guessing those are spurious.
[22:02] <natefinch-afk> back later. have a lot of work time left for today.
[22:20] <mup> Bug #1515016 opened: action argument with : space is incorrectly interpreted as json <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515016>
[22:37] <katco> ericsnow: wwitzel3: natefinch-afk: please don't forget to update your bugs with status for the day
[22:37] <ericsnow> katco: will do
[22:38] <wwitzel3> katco: rgr
[23:15] <wallyworld> axw_: perrito666: give me a minute
[23:15] <anastasiamac> wallyworld: k
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[00:35] <jisaitua> Hello
[00:36] <jisaitua> I'm looking for some help with udisks and polkit
[00:38] <jisaitua> I have an LTSP installation and I'm using an usb over ip solution to connect usb devices to the server. The problem is that I can't find how to let polkit know that some specific usb disk belongs to a specific user.
[00:39] <jisaitua> I know that polkit>=0.107 has some mechanism to do what I want using some form of javascript rules
[00:40] <jisaitua> but Ubuntu 14.04 has polkit 0.105 only
[00:41] <jisaitua> ...so if someone can help me I would really appreciate it
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-touch
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[06:38] <vishnudev> hi al
[06:38] <vishnudev> how to run make -j4 for differnt ubntu branch?
[07:21] <jgdx> vishnudev, you got to be more specific
[07:22] <vishnudev> I want to make a build with "personal/w-ondra/phablet-5.1.1_r5 " branch
[07:26] <vishnudev> how to do that?
[07:35] <vishnudev> Add your hardware specifig git repositories under phablet/hardware.
[07:36] <vishnudev> where will I get hardware specific git repo for nexus 6?
[07:56] <dholbach> good morning
[07:58] <vishnudev> good morning
[07:59] <vishnudev> where will I get hardware specific git repo for nexus 6?
[08:16] <slvn_> Hello ! I am waiting for bschaefer/mcphail for some help & bug fixing ... In the mean times, maybe could someone test a game/click package on his device (the version of the deivce needs to be vivid + ppa phone overlay) ?
[08:52] <vishnudev> can someone help me on porting ubuntu touch on to my device?
[08:52] <vishnudev> I've setup the repo and built a rom for nexus 4
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Area Code Day! 😃
[10:15] <justCarakas> haha
[11:06] <kkumar> Hi team
[11:06] <kkumar> am looking for some help on using Ubuntu touch for Java
[11:06] <kkumar> anyone has any experiences of touch with Java.. and specifically javafx
[11:26] <M0tty> Hi! IRM looking after solutions to fix the Gps issue on mx4 meizu. Gps never work... any idea?
[11:36] <ogra_> M0tty, did you try disabling WLAN ?
[11:37] <M0tty> Yes I do. Dosn't work...
[11:37] <ogra_> how lon did you wait (and have you made sure to be outside when trying)
[11:38] <ogra_> *long
[11:38] <M0tty> just after the ota-7 update I had Gps once, but it was the only one
[11:39] <M0tty> ogra_ I wait a very long time, always outside. ;-)
[11:40] <ogra_> hmm, last time (but thats two weeks ago) it worked fine for me ... probably there was a regression
[11:41] <Guest42341> M0tty, use the rc-proposed channel, the stable channel is old and buggy
[11:41] <davmor2> M0tty: are you only using gps or are you using here agps too
[11:41] <ogra_> Guest42341, please dont make such suggestions
[11:41] <ogra_> at least not without warnings ...
[11:41] <Guest42341> ogra_, rc-proposed is pretty safe
[11:42] <Guest42341> :D
[11:42] <ogra_> the stable channel has only known bugs that were verified by the QA
[11:42] <ogra_> team
[11:42] <ogra_> the rc-proposed channel can completely break and even be unbootable at any time
[11:42] <Guest42341> never happened to me
[11:42] <Guest42341> but i guess it could
[11:42] <ogra_> definitely nothing you should use if you are not prepared to manually recover from such a situation
[11:43] <ogra_> (and indeed rc-proposed usually has a *lot* more bugs ... they are just not known usually)
[11:45] <Guest42341> ogra_, i used stable for a couple of months and stable for 1 month, i can't recommend the stable channel from my experience
[11:45] <Guest42341> ogra_, the stable is worst (opinion)
[11:45] <ogra_> well, you cant just blindly recommend rc-proposed to people
[11:46] <ogra_> you should at alest warn them that there can be data loss unbootable installs and that there are definitely a *lot* more unfixed bugs
[11:46] <ogra_> randomly telling people stable is "more buggay" is not very constructive and rather mean towards them
[11:47] <ogra_> (and it additionally totally dis-credits the work of the OA team)
[11:47] <Guest42341> buggy :P
[11:47] <Guest42341> -a
[11:47] <Guest42341> the phones are targeted to devs and enthusiasts anyway
[11:48] <ogra_> right, and enthusiasts arent devs
[11:48] <ogra_> and shouldnt be
[11:48] <jibel> Guest42341, agreed with ogra_ . Unless you're helping with the development or testing of the phone recommending rc-proposed is a bad advice
[11:48] <Guest42341> i've only recommended the rc-proposed channel twice
[11:49] <Guest42341> but from my experience is much better than stable
[11:49] <Guest42341> at least for me
[11:49] <popey> ok.
[11:49] <ogra_> it has more features and ten times more bugs too
[11:49] <popey> cyclic argument is cyclic
[11:49] <ogra_> anyway
[11:49] <ogra_> right
[12:44] <M0tty> davmor2 both :-) nothing is working.
[12:47] <Guest42341> M0tty, OTA8 is probably next week, maybe it will fix your bug
[13:52] <mcphail> slvn_: I'll be home from work sometime after 2200h GMT tonight. I'll be happy to test then.
[13:53] <ogra_> slvn_, a mail to the Ml with detailed instructions might get you more feedback ;)
[14:04] <cam> hi all I have question: why is my ubuntu r24 and not r26 27 28
[14:04] <elijah> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2013/02/15/developers-get-the-full-support-they-need/ says there is an #ubuntu-phone but when I try to join it says I need an invitation. Anyone know when this will open up?
[14:09] <popey> elijah, yeah, ignore that message :)
[14:09] <elijah> popey: okay, thanks
[14:11] <elijah> Is the Meizo M4 currently the best device to get for development?
[14:11] <k1l> isnt the nexus4 the develoment phone, still?
[14:12] <cam> hi all I have question: why is my ubuntu r24 and not r26 27 28 ( nexus 4)
[14:13] <Guest42341> elijah, you can't get Meizu MX4, they are not selling it any more
[14:15] <Guest42341> elijah, you can buy a new bq ubuntu edition but you can't connect it to a screen or buy a second hand nexus 4 that can converge
[14:15] <pmcgowan> cam, r24 is the latest release on the stable channel for mako
[14:15] <pmcgowan> the numbers vary on different devices
[14:17] <Guest42341> cam, for meizu r6 is the last stable image
[14:19] <Guest42341> cam, and for rc-proposed r157, see this https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1475568
[14:29] <cam> Guest42341 thanks a lot
[14:54] <kenvandine> mzanetti, why doesn't the shell rotate on flo?
[14:54] <kenvandine> i'm guessing that's intentional, but i have to say i don't like it
[14:55] <mzanetti> kenvandine, it does
[14:55] <kenvandine> not on mine :)
[14:55] <mzanetti> what app have you focused?
[14:55] <kenvandine> no app
[14:55] <mzanetti> the dash app?
[14:55] <kenvandine> yes
[14:55] <kenvandine> the dash
[14:55] <mzanetti> the dash (which is an app as any other) locks rotation
[14:55] <kenvandine> it's only landscape
[14:55] <mzanetti> on your phone too
[14:56] <mzanetti> although on the phone it locks it to portrait
[14:56] <kenvandine> oh right
[14:56] <kenvandine> i guess i expect that on the phone
[14:56] <kenvandine> but i hate having to turn the tablet to landscape when launching apps
[14:57] <kenvandine> same for browsing content in the scopes
[14:57] <popey> it is very unintuitive
[14:57] <mzanetti> oh well... maybe we can enable rotation for the dash soon... at least we have branches in the queue that make reflowing it fast enough that we could enable it
[14:57] <kenvandine> i prefer having portrait for browsing scope content
[14:57] <mzanetti> but so far this is really a design decision
[14:57] <kenvandine> i figured it was
[14:57] <mzanetti> you can change it yourself by changing /usr/share/applications/unity8-dash.desktop
[14:58] <mzanetti> there's something like X-Ubuntu-Supported-Orientation=native
[14:58] <mzanetti> you can either remove that to allow rotation, or change it to portrait
[14:58] <mzanetti> but be aware that the dash is quite slow in resizing atm
[15:04] <jgdx> morphis, did you fix the “forget device” regression? I.e. should I take another look?
[15:05] <morphis> jgdx: I did but currently have troubles rebuilding the package in the silo
[15:05] <jgdx> morphis, you'll let me know?
[15:06] <morphis> jgdx: for sure
[15:06] <morphis> need to get all of this ready ...
[15:06] <kenvandine> mzanetti, interesting, i removed that line and it rotates, a little ugly for a second then works nicely
[15:06] <kenvandine> mzanetti, but it still uses the side stage in portrait :)
[15:07] <mzanetti> kenvandine, yes... inprogress
[15:07] <kenvandine> ok, so that's expected :)
[15:07] <mzanetti> yes, currently
[15:07] <mzanetti> but also expected to be fixed soon :)
[15:10] <seb128> jgdx, morphis, I made a few review comments as well on the mp btw (in case you didn't see those)
[15:12] <morphis> seb128: I see
[15:25] <morphis> jgdx: last thing I need to look at is this power toggle thing you mentioned
[15:25] <jgdx> morphis, the warnings?
[15:26] <morphis> yes
[15:26] <morphis> jgdx: on the functionality side everything was still working?
[15:31] <jgdx> morphis, yeah, except the regression.
[15:32] <morphis> ok
[15:32] <jgdx> morphis, it's normally benign, but you can have strong-ish typing in js using qml props.
[15:32] <jgdx> and there's a type error here
[15:34] <morphis> where?
[15:35] <morphis> "
[15:35] <morphis> jgdx: the ones "Unable to assign [undefined] to bool" are due to the bluetoothActionGroup not directly exposing that property
[15:37] <jgdx> morphis, one pattern is then visible: bluetoothActionGroup.enabled ? bluetoothActionGroup.enabled.state : false
[15:38] <morphis> right
[16:21] <jgdx> faenil, hey, time for one more q?
[16:22] <faenil> jgdx: of course
[16:22] <jgdx> faenil, why does this [1] segfault? Adding selectMode:true makes no difference. [1] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13216812/
[16:24] <faenil> jgdx: does it segfault without ListItemLayout?
[16:27] <jgdx> faenil, stack: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13216840/
[16:27] <jgdx> I'll check
[16:27] <jgdx> faenil, yes
[16:27] <faenil> jgdx: cool, then it's not me :)
[16:28] <faenil> jgdx: show that to zsombi :)
[16:29] <jgdx> faenil, okay
[16:30] <faenil> jgdx: sorry I couldn't help :/
[16:30] <jgdx> np
[16:33] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, hey, I would appreciate a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/empty-apparmor-hw-profile-dirs/+merge/276749 when you have a moment
[16:44] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: sure
[19:00] <ogra_> hmm, was it on purpose that with the last rc-proposed image the nearby scope doesnt work anymore ?
[19:00] <ogra_> sil2100, jibel ^^
[19:00] <sil2100> uh
[19:01] <ogra_> i mean, it works, but it is completely empty on both phones here
[19:54] <sergiusens> ogra_, fails here too
[19:56] <ogra_> i wonder if it actually started checking the location data ... that has been broken for two or three weeks now
[19:56] <ogra_> :P
[19:58] <davmor2> ogra_: there is a new custom tarball nearby works fine there
[19:59] <davmor2> ogra_: but I don't think the nearby scope was touch so might be something your end
[19:59] <ogra_> davmor2, well, it is on both phones here and sergiusens sees it too
[19:59] <ogra_> i doubt it is my end
[20:00] <davmor2> ogra_: I blame you anyway :P
[20:00] <ogra_> yeah, thats fine ...
[20:01] <sergiusens> ogra_, davmor2 fwiw it works now; I think it just fails on first try; I didn't even get the menu (the one with "I am thirsty" et.al.)
[20:01] <sergiusens> well it seems flaky; maybe one of the scopes in the scope is failing and bringing the whole thing down
[20:02] <ogra_> i get the menu and the header but nothing else
[20:02] <sergiusens> ogra_, right, I refreshed and now nothing
[20:02] <ogra_> sergiusens, what did you do to make it work ?
[20:02] <ogra_> ah
[20:02] <sergiusens> ogra_, I think it is just flaky/timing out
[20:02] <ogra_> i refresh since i got the update and never saw any content
[20:03] <sergiusens> so far I got it once
[20:21] <tvoss> ogra_, location is broken until silo 2 finally lands (in unapproved queue right now)
[20:22] <ogra_> tvoss, ah, nice to know there is a fix ahead
[20:24] <tvoss> ogra_, some minor version hiccup, we accidently removed nm-specifics with a recent cleanup landing
[20:25] <ogra_> ah, i was already wondering
[20:26] <ogra_> (it used to work so nicely in recent times)
[20:51] <davmor2> ogra_: I still blame you
[20:51] <ogra_> snappy will fix it
[20:51] <davmor2> ogra_: \o/
[20:54] <pmcgowan> tvoss, oh its broken in proposed right now? that certainly seems the case
[20:54] <tvoss> pmcgowan, yup, until silo 2 finally lands
[20:54] <ogra_> pmcgowan, it goes nicely hand in hand with the non-working nearby scope ... all fine :)
[20:56] <pmcgowan> oh a tad snarky today
[20:56] <ogra_> heh
[20:56] <ogra_> sorry :)
[20:56] <pmcgowan> tvoss, hey do you know how u-s-c gets proximity events
[20:57] <davmor2> pmcgowan: it's all okay, ogra_ say snappy will fix it
[20:57] <tvoss> pmcgowan, I would think via the platform-api
[20:58] <pmcgowan> tvoss, not smaat enough to see it
[20:58] <tvoss> pmcgowan, let me check
[20:59] <tvoss> pmcgowan, hmmm, seems like powerd is handing out that information
[21:02] <pmcgowan> hmmm, but powerd reported getting that change vent from u-s-c if I am seeing it right
[21:02] <mcphail> davmor2: may I say again, http://themcphails.uk/snappy.jpg
[21:13] <taiebot> Has my request been granted? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/617 does that mean this will land in rc-proposed tomorrow?
[21:22] <pmcgowan> taiebot, yeah that will be in the image tonight
[21:22] <pmcgowan> :)
[21:24] <taiebot> pmcgowan: \o/ from my testing this reduces also bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1480877 to a mere hang of few secs instead of 1min
[21:24] <pmcgowan> taiebot, great yeah thats a killer
[21:25] <taiebot> pmcgowan: to remove a silo i suppose it is easier to just reflash the phone
[21:25] * mcphail might switch to rc-proposed to get that fix
[21:25] <pmcgowan> taiebot, yes although the update should fix things up
[21:26] <pmcgowan> to be safe reflash
[21:26] <taiebot> pmcgowan: thanks i will reflash
[21:26] <pmcgowan> mcphail, we will release to stable hopefully next week
[21:26] <pmcgowan> thats the plan anyway
[21:27] <mcphail> pmcgowan: nice! Thanks
[21:30] <taiebot> pmcgowan, mcphail i predict this landing will make a lot of people happy i have been using my GPS today and it has never worked as well. Switching from here maps, unav, google maps and seeing all those apps properly detecting my location is pretty exciting. Thanks for the hard work!
[21:44] <taiebot> DanChapman i am getting quite a lot of crashes in Dekko what sort of debugging would you like. They happen quite often when i leave/enter the app. I can see the little wifi icon on the top left i click on it to re-connect and the app crash.
[21:46] * popey hugs taiebot
[21:46] <taiebot> popey why so much love taiebot hugs popey back
[23:06] <harirama> on linux mint, when i install the "ubuntu-touch" meta package, my machine stops booting
[23:06] <harirama> any hints there?
[23:07] <popey> Why are you installing ubuntu-touch?
[23:08] <Guest45809> hi
[23:10] <Guest45809> is ubuntu touch development active for nexus 10
[23:15] <popey> Guest45809, not really. It's not a device we're focussed on
[23:19] <Guest45809> popey: is it worth installing then in that case
[23:20] <popey> i wouldn't
[23:20] <popey> nexus 4, nexus 7 certainly
[23:21] <Guest45809> i have neither :( lol
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-mir
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[07:51] <slvn_> Hello ! I am waiting for bschaefer/mcphail for some help & bug fixing ... In the mean times, could some one test a game/click package on his device (the version needs to be vivid + ppa phone overlay).
[07:51] <slvn_> ?
[08:46] <slvn_> hello, I wished someone could test my ubuntu-touch game for debugging purpose !
[19:27] <dandrader> kdub, ping
[19:30] <kdub> hello dandrader
[19:31] <dandrader> kdub, hi
[19:31] <dandrader> kdub, how do I fill out a cursor using a buffer stream
[19:31] <dandrader> ?
[19:33] <kdub> dandrader, lp:mir:examples/animated_cursor_demo_client.c might be an example of what you need
[19:34] <dandrader> kdub, thanks! just found out about it as well by grepping mir. sorry for bothering you :)
[19:34] <dandrader> kdub, was grepping only the tests so far
[19:34] <kdub> no problem
[19:35] <dandrader> kdub, I'm not doing an animated cursor. do I still have to call mir_buffer_stream_swap_buffers_sync(stream) after mensetting it?
[19:36] <kdub> i think so, thats how the buffer would be updated
[19:38] <dandrader> kdub, right, makes sense. after all you could update the buffer with multiple memset calls and what not
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:09] <autowiz_> 훈련소가 포항에 하나밖에 없던가요?
[00:09] <Work^Seony> 네 포항 하나에요
[00:13] <Work^Seony> 좀 오버하긴하지만 그래도 진짜 옜날 생각 많이 나네요
[00:22] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[00:22] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[00:26] <autowiz_> 오오 토테포 님 오늘은 아침부터 나오셨네요 ㅎㅎ
[00:30] <ipeter_> 써니님 추억이 남다르시겠어요
[00:30] <Work^Seony> 네 ㅋㅋ 편히쉬어랑 쪼그려뛰기 보니까 진짜 옛날 생각 나네요.
[00:30] <Work^Seony> 오와열도 그렇고 ㅎㅎ
[00:38] <autowiz_> 와 저는 쪼그려 앉아 하는데 허벅지 터지는줄 ㅠㅠ
[00:59] <HolyKnight> @bloter_news: "아두이노로 '여행가방 위치 추적기' 만들었어요" bloter.net/archives/243222
[01:11] <PotatoGim> 11월부터는 계속 정상 출근하고 있습니다...ㅎㅎ 다만 일이 많아서 다른 일을 할 틈이 없네요...ㅜ
[01:12] <PotatoGim> 정상 출근이라 함은 정시 이전에 출근하는..ㅎㅎ
[01:19] <jason__> 09:59 이미 1회용라이터 반만한 크기의 기성품이 있어서 성공 사업화하기엔 늦었지만, DIY 라면 아이디어는 참신하네요. Holy Knight
[01:22] <autowiz_> 저도 캐리어 위치 추적기 생각했었는데 , 비행기 이륙할때 전자장비 다 끄라고 하잖아요 이런건 어떻하는지
[01:23] <autowiz_> 어떡하는지
[01:25] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[01:25] <ipeter_> 휴..
[01:25] <ipeter_> 맥을 업무에서 쓰기 시작했는데
[01:25] <ipeter_> 멱살잡고 싶네요
[01:26] <ipeter_> 느므느므 답답해요.
[01:26] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠㅠ
[01:26] <autowiz_> 역지사지의 마음으로다가 제가 멱살을 잡아드릴까요?
[01:26] <autowiz_> 으음... 뭔가 이상한데... 이게 아닌가 ㅜㅜ
[01:27] <Work^Seony> 왜요?
[01:27] <Work^Seony> 인터넷 뱅킹이 안되서?
[01:27] <Work^Seony> 아니면... 게임이 안되서?
[01:28] <ipeter_> 마우스의 움직임도 그렇구요
[01:29] <ipeter_> 그냥 모든게요.
[01:29] <Work^Seony> 마우스 움직임은 설정에서 바꿔주면 되지않나요?
[01:29] <ipeter_> 완전 어색해요.
[01:29] <ipeter_> 네 다 바꿔주었습니다.
[01:29] <ipeter_> 근데도 뭐..아직 익숙하지 않아서 그런거겠죠.
[01:29] <Work^Seony> 마우스는 근데 좀 그래요
[01:29] <autowiz_> 마우스 포인터 가속도가 윈도우즈랑 달라서 처음에 한동안 적응해야 할껍니다.
[01:29] <Work^Seony> 가속이 윈도우랑 좀 달라서 불편하신 분들이 많죠
[01:29] <ipeter_> 단축키도 그렇구요.
[01:30] <Work^Seony> 단축키는... 뭐 시간이 좀 지나야죠 ㅎㅎ
[01:30] <autowiz_> 단축키를 많이 쓰세요?
[01:30] <ipeter_> 많이 쓴다기보다
[01:30] <ipeter_> 달라서 불편한거 같아요.
[01:30] <ipeter_> 그리고 마우스가 가속도가 다르다보니
[01:30] <ipeter_> 아무래도 키보드를 많이 써야할것 같네요.
[01:30] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠㅠ
[01:30] <ipeter_> 단축키로요
[01:31] <autowiz_> F5 , F2 , F3 , Windows + r , Windows + e , ctrl + shift + ESC , ctrl + break 정도
[01:31] <ipeter_> 스스디로 바꿔주니까 괜찮은거 같아요.
[01:31] <autowiz_> 생각보다 많이 쓰네요 ㅋㅋ
[01:32] <ipeter_> 매직마우스의 제스쳐는 정말 좋네요
[01:40] <Work^Seony> 매직마우스보단 트랙패드를 쓰면 더 제스쳐가 편해지죠
[01:40] <Work^Seony> 지금도 익스포제라고 불리우는지 모르겠지만, 현재 실행 중인 모든 어플들을 한 눈에 재배열해주는 기능이 있는데,
[01:40] <Work^Seony> 그걸 4 손가락으로 불러올 수 있거든요..
[01:44] <ipeter_> 4손가락은 안되네요.
[01:44] <ipeter_> 마우스에서요.
[01:44] <Work^Seony> 네 매직마우스에서 4손꾸락은 안됩니다
[01:45] <Work^Seony> 걍 ctrl+화살표 키로 불러와야죠 ㅎㅎ
[01:49] <ipeter_> 무선키보드가 좀 나을까요?
[01:49] <ipeter_> 써니님 어제 써니님이 조언해주실만한 이야기가 나왔는데
[01:49] <Work^Seony> 어떤 면에서요?
[01:49] <ipeter_> 어디계셨나요?
[01:49] <Work^Seony> 어제 집에서 게임하고 있었죠 ㅋㅋ
[01:49] <ipeter_> 마우스로 손이 가는 거리가 좀 길었어요.
[01:51] <Work^Seony> 마우스로 손이 가는 거리가 긴데, 무선 키보드를 쓰는 게 관련이 있는 건가요?
[01:51] <Work^Seony> 쓰시는 환경을 몰라서 아직 상상이 잘 안되네요
[01:51] <autowiz_> 로그보시면 어제 피터님이 결혼에 관한 이야기를 좀 하셨었습니다 ㅎㅎ
[01:52] <Work^Seony> 그랬군요 ㅎㅎ
[01:53] <Work^Seony> 결혼하기 전까지는 간절히 바라는, 하지만 결혼하고나면 간절히 후회하는 바로 그것...
[01:53] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋ
[01:54] <autowiz_> 저같은 경우엔 결혼이 늦어져 불행인동시에 , 아직 미혼이라 행복인 뭐 그런 ㅋㅋ
[01:54] <autowiz_> 아 중요한 타이밍인데 튕기셨네 ㅠㅠ
[01:54] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋㅋ
[01:54] <Work^Seony> 애 낳기도 좀 뭐한게, 자녀가 대학 갈 때쯤 저는 환갑인 것도 좀 그래요...
[01:55] <Work^Seony> 그런 면에서 보면, 아예 결혼 일찍해서 애 일찍 낳는 것도 나쁘진 않은데..
[01:55] <autowiz_> 나 이 더 먹고 입양하시는 분들도 많은데요뭐
[01:56] <autowiz_> 저도 정말 빨리 결혼해서 아이들이랑 친구처럼 그렇게 지내고 싶었는데 쿨럭
[01:56] <Work^Seony> 저두요 ㅋㅋ
[01:56] <autowiz_> 저 입양하실 생각 없으세요 ㅎㅎ
[01:57] <Work^Seony> 근데 막상 애 안생기고, 저도 취미생활 즐기다보니, 없는 것도 아주 나쁘진 않겠구나 하는 생각이 드네요
[01:57] <autowiz_> 아빠~~
[01:57] <Work^Seony> ㅋㅋㅋ
[01:57] <autowiz_> 저도 딱 지금이 좋긴 합니다.
[01:58] <autowiz_> 아무래도 가정이 생기면 시간 , 에너지 , 돈 등등에서 일정부분이 가정이나 마누라 혹은 아이한테 갈 수 밖에 없으니
[01:58] <samahui_tp> 일정부분이 아니라 다 그리가죠
[01:58] <Work^Seony> 슈퍼맨이 돌아왔다 보면 그래도 애 있으면 좋긴 할 거 같다는 생각은 들어요
[01:58] <autowiz_> 다만 아기 키우는 친구들은 세상에서 바꿀 수 없는 기쁨이라고 하긴 하는데
[01:58] <samahui_tp> 일하는 시간 이외에는다 자식과 아내에게 가는 겁니다
[01:58] <samahui_tp> 네 아이가 자라는 모습 바라보는게 가장 큰 행복 중 하나죠
[01:59] <autowiz_> 왜 그런거 많지 않습니까. 나이많은 노인이 죽기전에 후회하는 건
[01:59] <autowiz_> 큰돈을 못벌어서라기보다 , 더 즐기고 , 주위사람들과 자주 만나고 그러지 못한게 제일 후회된다고.
[02:00] <Work^Seony> 네 다들 그런다고 하더라구요
[02:00] <autowiz_> 음... 그래도 서니님은 결혼 하셨으니 애기에게갈 사랑이 마눌님에게로~~ 우웃
[02:00] <autowiz_> 우훗
[02:00] <Work^Seony> 와이프한테 안가요 ㅎㅎ
[02:00] <autowiz_> 엑박이 에게 가나요? ㅠㅠ
[02:00] <Work^Seony> 벌써 결혼한지 10년차 되가는데요 ㅋㅋ
[02:01] <autowiz_> 많은데 결혼하고서 서로 맞춰진다거나 변한다거나 한다는데. 그래도 많이 차이나면 힘들것도같아요
[02:01] <Work^Seony> 성격이요?
[02:02] <autowiz_> 예들들어 저 아는 동생은 매운걸 거의 못먹거든요 스파이시 치킨 먹다가 큰일 날뻔 했어요
[02:02] <Work^Seony> 음... 제 개인적으로는, 성격차이가 더 큰게 나중에 결혼해서 서로 아웅다웅하는게 더 좋다더라 이런 얘기를 많이 들어왔었거든요...
[02:02] <autowiz_> 저는 매운거 꽤 즐겨먹는 편이고. 제가 매운걸 안먹는 수 밖에 없는데
[02:02] <Work^Seony> 근데, 결혼하고나서 이제 한 10년차 되가니까, 성격 안맞는거 스트레스 됩니다
[02:03] <autowiz_> 10차 되가니까 스트레스가 안되는게 아니라 더 되시는군요 커헐
[02:03] <Work^Seony> 그게,
[02:03] <Work^Seony> 그냥 그러려니 하고 넘어갈 수 있는 부분이면 괜찮은데요,
[02:03] <Work^Seony> 살면서 계속 맞딱뜨리게 되는 거라면 스트레스 되죠
[02:03] <Work^Seony> 저를 예로 들어드리자면요ㅡ,
[02:04] <Work^Seony> 저는 제가 결혼하기 전에는, 아주 가정적이고 헌신적인 남편일 거라고 생각했거든요
[02:04] <Work^Seony> 근데 막상 결혼하고나서 깨닫게 된 중대한 부분이,
[02:04] <Work^Seony> 저는 반드시 저만의 시간을 가져야하는 사람이라는걸 알게됐어요
[02:04] <autowiz_> 가.정.적.이.지.않.으.시.구.나. ㅠ...ㅠ...
[02:04] <Work^Seony> 혼자서, 게임을 하든 인터넷을 하든 뭘 하든 반드시 혼자만의 시간을 가져야하는 사람이라는걸 알게됐거든요...
[02:04] <ipeter_> 써니님?
[02:05] <autowiz_> 아~ 전에 잠깐 얘기하셨었어요.
[02:05] <Work^Seony> 근데 결혼하고나면 와이프는 보통 남편이랑 많은 것을 하려고 하죠..
[02:05] <Work^Seony> 그게 점점 귀찮아지는 거에요
[02:05] <ipeter_> 혹시 열렬히 사랑하고 불타는 감정 가지셨나요?
[02:05] <autowiz_> 각자 시간 갖기로 합의 봤다고.
[02:05] <ipeter_> 연애하실때요?
[02:05] <Work^Seony> 연애할 때야 뭐 다들 그렇지 않나요?
[02:05] <ipeter_> 전 그런감정 안생기네요
[02:05] <ipeter_> ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[02:05] <Work^Seony> 신혼 때야 설겆이도 해주고 청소도 해주고 그러는데,
[02:05] <ipeter_> 이거 완전 호르몬의 영향인가요.
[02:05] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[02:06] <Work^Seony> 그게 시간이 지나면, 이등병 때 몸에 베인거 병장 때 다시 사회인으로 돌아오는 것마냥
[02:06] <Work^Seony> 원래 성격 나옵니다
[02:06] <Work^Seony> 그래서, 성격이 안맞는 부분 중에서 넘어갈만한건 괜찮지만, 아니면 스트레스가 되는 거에요
[02:06] <Work^Seony> 제 와이프는 무조건 밖으로 나가야 힐링이 되는 성격이고,
[02:06] <autowiz_> 호르몬 영향도 있긴 할텐데 , 100% 는 아니지 않을까 싶습니다. 이성적으로도 남자는 여자를 좋아하게 되는게 당연한거 같습니다만 ㅎ
[02:06] <Work^Seony> 저는 집에 붙어있어야 힐링이 되는 성격이거든요
[02:07] <Work^Seony> 제 와이프는 제가 퇴근만 하면 심심하다고 조르는데,
[02:07] <Work^Seony> 저는 혼자 컴퓨터 켜서 인터넷 하고 게임하는게 너무 편하고 좋거든요
[02:07] <Work^Seony> 이게 쌓이다 결국 싸움까지 가게되는거죠
[02:07] <razGon_LEo660M> ㅋㅋㅋ
[02:07] <razGon_LEo660M> 그래서 저는 각방을 씁니다. ㅎ
[02:08] <Work^Seony> 저도 그랬으면 좋겠는데, 제 와이프가 잠잘 때 극도로 예민해서 각방을 못써요 ㅎㅎ
[02:08] <autowiz_> 각방을 못쓰는게 더 좋은거 아닌 ... ㅎㅎ
[02:08] <Work^Seony> 저처럼 컴퓨터하고 인터넷 하면서 혼자만의 시간을 즐기는 분들은, 결혼하면 저처럼 아마 많이 싸우실 거에요..
[02:09] <Work^Seony> 뭐 배우자마다 성격이 다 다를테니 정답은 아니겠지만..
[02:09] <Work^Seony> 각방 쓰는게 더 좋죠 ㅋㅋ
[02:10] <ipeter_> 사시는 모습들 천차만별이네요.
[02:10] <Work^Seony> 와이프가 방해 안하고 혼자 있는게 얼마나 좋은지 아직 이해 못하실 땝니다 ㅋㅋ
[02:10] <ipeter_> 우와..
[02:10] <Work^Seony> 티비 개그프로에서, 와이프 친정 간다고 하면 남자들이 만세 부르잖아요
[02:10] <Work^Seony> 그거 아직 왜 그러는지 모르시는군요 ㅋㅋ
[02:10] <autowiz_> 주위 형님들 만나면 다들 바라는거 1순위가 언제나
[02:10] <autowiz_> 자기가 출장을 가거나 , 마눌님이 몇일 집에 안들어오시는거 ㅋㅋ
[02:11] <Work^Seony> 저는 제가 출장가는건 귀찮아서 싫고, 와이프가 어디 약속있다고 나간다면 너무 좋습니다 ㅋㅋ
[02:11] <autowiz_> 어떻게 보면 다들 자기만의 시간을 가지기 힘들어서 그런가 ... 하는생각도 드네요.
[02:11] <ipeter_> 저는 근무지에 사람이 하나 있었는데
[02:11] <ipeter_> 불타는건 아니고
[02:11] <ipeter_> 그렇게 마음이 없는것도 아니고
[02:11] <Work^Seony> 네 자기 시간 갖기가 어려워서 그래요
[02:12] <ipeter_> 그냥 밍숭밍숭해요.
[02:12] <ipeter_> 안좋아하는걸까요.
[02:12] <ipeter_> 그냥 일단 만나볼까요.
[02:12] <autowiz_> 밍숭밍숭 한 사랑도 있는거 아닐까요 ? 점점 뜨거워질지 점점 차가워질지는 더 지나봐야 알겠지만서두
[02:13] <autowiz_> 가보지 않으면 모를 길인거 지요.
[02:13] <ipeter_> 그러고보면
[02:14] <ipeter_> 확 빠지는 사랑은 이제 못느껴본듯해요.
[02:14] <ipeter_> 그래서 불타는 사랑 보면 부럽다능?
[02:14] <ipeter_> 이러다 만나서 결혼하면
[02:14] <ipeter_> 바람필 수 있다는 생각도 해봅니다.
[02:14] <Work^Seony> 제가 볼 때 ipeter님은, 누군가를 만나야한다는 강박관념이 좀 있는거 같아요
[02:14] <ipeter_> 그런가요?
[02:14] <ipeter_> 지금은 그래요.
[02:15] <ipeter_> 제가 그녀를 살짝 건드린꼴(?)이 되어서요.
[02:15] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠ
[02:15] <Work^Seony> "결혼할 나이는 많이 지났는데 사람은 없으니, 누군가라도 빨리 만나야겠구나" 하는 무의식이 좀 있는게 아닌가 싶네요
[02:15] <ipeter_> 그런것도 있어요.
[02:15] <Work^Seony> 근데, 그런 생각 갖고계시면 잘못하면 결혼을 너무 성급하게 하실 수가 있어요..
[02:16] <autowiz_> 뭐 미지근한 사랑도 의외로 괜찮을것도 같습니다. ㅎㅎ
[02:16] <ipeter_> 저 잠시만 리붓하고 올께요.
[02:18] <autowiz_> 스타2 캠페인을 아직 전부 클리어 못해서
[02:18] <autowiz_> 다시 해봐야겠습니다. 확장팩도 새로 나오는거 같고해서
[02:19] <autowiz_> 뽀빠이 형님 안녕하세요~~
[02:19] <Work^Seony> 내일 스타2 확장팩 나오죠?
[02:19] <Work^Seony> 지금 프리오더 하는 중이긴 한데...
[02:20] <popeye92> autowiz: 안녕하세요.
[02:26] <ipeter_> gjgj
[02:26] <ipeter_> 허허
[02:26] <ipeter_> 다시 돌아왔습니다.
[02:30] <ipeter_> 아.. 맥에서는 듀얼모니터 사용시
[02:30] <ipeter_> 메인 디스플레이를 설정할 수 없네요.
[02:30] <ipeter_> 썬더볼트 넣은녀석 메인이 되네요.
[02:32] <Work^Seony> 설정할 수 있는데요
[02:32] <ipeter_> ??
[02:32] <Work^Seony> 디스플레이 화면에 보시면, 화면 상단에 하얀bar 보이시죠?
[02:32] <ipeter_> 지금 설정 만지작 거리는데
[02:32] <ipeter_> 네
[02:32] <Work^Seony> 걔가 있는 게 메인입니다
[02:32] <ipeter_> 근데 그놈은 다른 디스플레이에서 쓰는게
[02:33] <ipeter_> 옮기는게 안되더라구요.
[02:33] <Work^Seony> 안옮겨져요?
[02:33] <ipeter_> 윈도에서 이놈을 메인으로 쓰겠냐는 설정 처럼요.
[02:33] <Work^Seony> 그냥 마우스로 옮기시는게 될텐데요
[02:33] <ipeter_> 맙솟맙소사
[02:34] <ipeter_> 이렇게 설정하네요.
[02:34] <ipeter_> =_=
[02:35] <crixer> 저도 맥쓰고싶어요
[02:35] <crixer> 하하하
[02:37] <Work^Seony> 이번에 나오는 게임이 너무 많아서, 지출이 좀 많네요
[02:38] <ipeter_> 무슨무슨 게임 사셨어요?
[02:39] <ipeter_> 아. 여전히 사고 싶다는 생각은 드네요.
[02:39] <Work^Seony> 툼레이더, 스타크래프트2, 어쌔신 크리드 신디케이트, 헤일로5 입니다
[02:39] <crixer> 신디케이트는 생각보다 평이 별로던데요??
[02:39] <Work^Seony> 낼모레 폴아웃4 사갖구 오려구요
[02:40] <Work^Seony> 생각보다 괜찮은게 아니구요? ㅎㅎ
[02:40] <crixer> 어떠세요??
[02:40] <Work^Seony> 재밌었어요.
[02:40] <Work^Seony> 런던 돌아다니는 것만으로도 아주 재밌었습니다
[02:40] <Work^Seony> 유니티보단 훨씬 나아요
[02:40] <Work^Seony> 스토리도 괜찮고, 타격감도 좋고
[02:41] <Work^Seony> 좀 뭐랄까... 조폭 크리드 라고 부르고 싶어요 ㅋㅋ
[02:41] <crixer> 그렇군요 타격감은 방송보니까 아주 찰지더라고요
[02:41] <crixer> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[02:41] <crixer> 맞아요 뭐 조폭영역싸움도하는거같던데
[02:41] <Work^Seony> 이번 어크 보면, 남매가 주인공이잖아요
[02:41] <crixer> 다음 시리즈는 현대라는 말이 있던데.. 루머겠죠?
[02:41] <Work^Seony> 남자애가, 실세를 장악하고있는 조직에 맞서는 다른 조직들을 규합해서 하나의 조직으로 통합하고 그 리더가 되고싶어하거든요
[02:41] <crixer> 네네
[02:42] <Work^Seony> 이번 어크는 특이한게, 지역을 장악하는 기능이 있어요
[02:42] <Work^Seony> 거기에, 약간의 범죄를 눈감아주는 경찰 뇌물 수수랑,
[02:42] <Work^Seony> 주인공 이름이 유명해져서, 적들이 먼저 시비걸지 않는 기능이 있거든요
[02:42] <Work^Seony> 그 2개를 키고 한 지역을 장악하면 조폭물이 따로 없게 되요
[02:43] <Work^Seony> 주인공이 조직원을 최대 5명까지 데리고 다닐 수가 있는데요,
[02:43] <Work^Seony> 세력 장악한 지역에서 조직원 5명 대동하고 다니면서, 반대 세력들 보이면 시비 걸고 다니는 겁니다 ㅋㅋ
[02:44] <crixer> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[02:44] <crixer> 진짜 완전 조폭물이네요
[02:44] <Work^Seony> 주인공 혼자 돌아댕기다가 반대 세력이랑 시비 붙으면, 지나가던 우리 똘마니들이 보고 우루루 몰려와서 도와줘요
[02:44] <Work^Seony> 경찰이고 뭐고 없습니다. 주인공이 당하면 무조건 도와줘요 ㅋㅋ
[02:45] <Work^Seony> 골목대장 놀이하는게 재밌었어요
[02:45] <Work^Seony> 사이드퀘들도 나름 스토리가 있구요...
[02:45] <Work^Seony> 유비 특유의 반복적인 요소는 어쩔 수 없긴한데, 그게 너무 과한 수준은 아니에요
[02:45] <Work^Seony> 게다가 마차가 등장해서, 이걸로 레이싱도 좀 할 수 있고
[02:46] <Work^Seony> GTA 마냥 남의 마차 뺏어탈 수도 있어요
[02:47] <crixer> 마차 부딪칠때
[02:47] <crixer> 말이 너무 불쌍하더라고요 전
[02:47] <Work^Seony> 제일 마지막에만 찍을 수 있는 스킬 중 하나는, 조직원이 가득찬 마차를 불러오는 게 있는데 뭐 하여간 완전 조폭물입니다 ㅎㅎ
[02:47] <crixer> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[02:47] <crixer> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ진ㅉ마
[02:47] <crixer> 만약에 현대시리즈가 나오면
[02:47] <Work^Seony> 암튼 재밌어요. 유니티랑은 많이 달라졌어요
[02:47] <crixer> gta처럼 나오겠네요
[02:47] <crixer> 다양한 게임을 하고싶은데 컴퓨터 사양이 사양인지라....
[02:48] <Work^Seony> 그래서 콘솔이 게임하기 좋죠
[02:48] <Work^Seony> 한 번 사면 최소 7년은 쓰니까..
[02:48] <Work^Seony> 컴퓨터보다 전기도 훨씬 덜먹고, 업그레이드 신경쓸 필요도 없고...
[02:49] <crixer> 전 근데 가난한 학생이므로 꿈만 꾸고있어요
[02:49] <crixer> 일단 트리플 모니터에 사양 빵빵한 컴퓨터 매우매우 좋은의자
[02:49] <crixer> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[02:49] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ
[02:50] <crixer> 맥도 사고 ... 사치를 좀 부리고 싶은 욕망이 있는데 정말 지금은 꿈만 꾸고있습니다
[02:50] <Work^Seony> 경험자로써 알려드리자면, 25인치가 넘어가면 듀얼모니터부터 목에 통증 옵니다
[02:50] <Work^Seony> 모니터랑 눈의 거리가 최소 60cm는 되야되요
[02:51] <Work^Seony> 지금 사무실에서 6모니터 쓰지만, 처음에 너무 힘들었어요
[02:51] <Work^Seony> 집에서는 27인치 듀얼 쓰는데, 이것도 사고나서 깨달았죠 ㅎㅎ
[02:59] <ihavnoth> 모니터 6개가 연결이 가능한가요?
[02:59] <ihavnoth> ^.^
[02:59] <Work^Seony> 네 그래픽카드가 2개라서요 ㅎㅎ
[03:00] <ihavnoth> 혹시 사진 보내 주실 수 있으세요?
[03:00] <ihavnoth> 뭔가 웅장할 것 같네요^.^
[03:00] <Work^Seony> 넵. http://jswlinux.tistory.com/entry/Ubuntu-How-to-set-up-2-Graphic-Cards-and-6-monitors
[03:00] <ipeter_> 맥용 오피스 깨지네요.
[03:00] <ipeter_> 한글이요.
[03:00] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠ
[03:13] <HolyKnight> 플스 닮은 로지텍
[03:13] <HolyKnight> 조이패드로 위쳐3
[03:13] <ipeter_> 왜 그런지 알았어요
[03:13] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋ
[03:13] <HolyKnight> 하려고했지만 fail....
[03:13] <ipeter_> 한글키로 해놨을때는 안깨지네요.
[03:29] <autowiz_> 홀리님 왜 안되셨어요?
[03:30] <HolyKnight> 메탈기어는 잘 되는데
[03:30] <HolyKnight> 위쳐3는 안되네유
[03:30] <HolyKnight> 엑박이 아니라서 그런가보쥬....
[03:31] <HolyKnight> 위쳐게임이 지원안하는것가타유
[03:32] <HolyKnight> http://readme.skplanet.com/?p=12175
[04:35] <autowiz_> 헐~ google 검색 결과 페이지랑 bing 검색결과 페이지가 너무 많이 비슷하네요
[04:36] <autowiz_> 순간 깝놀 ㅎㅎ
[06:47] <autowiz_> 와우 바인드가 에러한번 없이 컨피그부터 컴파일 까지 쭈우욱 되네요 ㅎㅎ
[06:47] <autowiz_> 에러가 안나니 더 어색한 ㅋㅋ
[07:06] <ipeter_> 좋은 오후 보내고 계신가요?
[07:07] <ipeter_> 조금은 이제 추워지네요.
[08:47] <ipeter_> 사마휘님!
[08:48] <samahui_tp> 넵
[08:49] <samahui_tp> 모두들 저녁 맛나게 드시고 야근들 열심히! 농땡이 피우며 잘 하세요~
[08:49] <samahui_tp> 전 저녁 먹고 오겠습니다 ㅎㅎ
[08:51] <autowiz_> 벌써 저녁먹을 시간이군요 ㅠㅠ
[10:16] <autowiz_> 행복한 저녁 시간들 되세요~~
[12:56] <samahui_tp> 밥먹고 왔습니다
[12:56] <samahui_tp> 밤되니 정말 쌀쌀을 넘어서 춥네요
[13:11] <commania> 저희 본가 컴퓨터가 바꿀때가 되었는데요...
[13:12] <commania> 요크필드고 요즘 자주 뻗어서 겨울에 올라가면 동생 쓰는 컴을 바꿔줄생각인데
[13:12] <commania> 어머니께서는 동생이 고사양 컴퓨터를 가져서 종일 게임하는것을 원치 않으십니다
[13:13] <commania> 지금 쓰는 컴퓨터가 특이한 점이 동생(늦둥이, 중학생)의 게임 사용을 제한하려고 우분투와 윈도우를 듀얼부팅해놓고 윈도우에 암호를 걸어놨습니다.
[13:14] <commania> 생각나서 잠시 알아보다 레노버의 usff pc가 눈에 들어왔습니다... 이게 가정용으로 쓰는데 적합할까요?
[13:14] <commania> 노트북 CPU와 RAM, 기판구조를 이용하며 모니터 뒤 베사홀에 거치가 가능해서 인테리어에도 좋을 것 같은데..
[13:15] <commania> 지금 쓰는 PC가 풀 ATX 사이즈인데 살 떄부터 팬소음이 매우 심하기도 했고...
[13:15] <commania> 이걸 거실에 두니 소음이 상당히 신경쓰여서 어머니께서 노트북을 원하시는 눈치인데요.
[13:17] <commania> 한줄요약: 지나치게 고사양이 아닌, 소음 적고 우분투 잘 돌아가는 PC를 찾아보다 레노버 USFF가 눈에 들어왔습니다. 적당한 지름일까요?
[13:21] <samahui_tp> 말그대로 미니베어본입니다. 노트북용 부품이 들어가는 만큼 크기도 작고 전기도 덜먹고...
[13:22] <samahui_tp> 하지만 그만큼 확장성도 낮고(거의 없고) 성능도 고만고만합니다.
[13:22] <samahui_tp> 일반적으로 집에서 인터넷, 문서작성, 영화감상 정도로는 아무 문제 없습니다.
[13:22] <commania> 중학생 동생이 쓰게 될 물건이라 확장성과 성능은 적을수록 좋습니다... 아마도.
[13:22] <commania> 문제는 가격인데 블프를 기다려봐야..
[13:23] <samahui_tp> 근데 집에서 동생 레포트나 인터넷 쓰는 정도면 뭘 사도 괜찮을거 같네요
[13:23] <commania> 제가 중학생 때 조립하고, 본가에 남겨두고 간 요크필드는
[13:23] <samahui_tp> 미니베어본 중에서 저렴한거 사다 놓으셔도 될거 같네요
[13:23] <commania> 초반부터 워낙 부품간의 불협화음이랄까 말썽이 많아서요
[13:23] <commania> 차라리 완제품 던져주고 가는 게 낫지 않을까 란 생각이 들어서요ㅎㅎ;;
[13:24] <samahui_tp> 네... 그냥 일반적으로 집에서 쓰는거면 AS쉽게 받을 수 있는 놈으로 사는게 났죠
[13:24] <commania> 레노버 as가 헬이긴 하지만 삼성 LG에서 이 가격에 나오는 건 아톰이나, 슬림PC 규격을 봐도 펜티엄이죠...
[13:24] <commania> 그렇게 까지 낮은 사양은 안되고요 또.
[13:24] <samahui_tp> 레노버 그놈 확장성 이외에는 쓸만하다고 TP메니아 사이트에서 본듯합니다
[13:24] <commania> 오래 쓰는게 목적인지라.
[13:25] <commania> 이런. 이거 정발제품이 아니네요.
[13:25] <samahui_tp> 2세대 이상 인텔 시퓨 들어간 놈이면 일반적인용도로 쓰고도 남습니다
[13:25] <samahui_tp> 그거 아마도 기업 납품으로 풀린걸겁니다
[13:26] <samahui_tp> http://prod.danawa.com/list/?cate=1131287&15main_11_03
[13:26] <samahui_tp> 여기서 골라서 사시면 될거 같은데요
[13:26] <samahui_tp> 완제품 미니PC 다나와 검색결과 입니다만
[13:26] <commania> 조탁...
[13:26] <commania> 조택이라 읽어야 하나요
[13:27] <samahui_tp> 조택
[13:27] <samahui_tp> zotec
[13:27] <samahui_tp> 아니면 어머님 바램대로 저렴한 노트부으로 하나 지르세요
[13:27] <commania> 어라?
[13:27] <samahui_tp> 근데 노트북 사놓으면 방으로 가져들어가서 딴짓을 하게 되는 현상을 목격하게 될겁니다 ㅎㅎ
[13:27] <commania> 맥미니 신품이 50만원대인가요?
[13:27] <commania> 그래서 베어본을 찾고 있어요ㅎㅎ
[13:28] <samahui_tp> 신상품순으로 보세요
[13:28] <commania> 아 울트라북 CPU 박은 제품...
[13:28] <commania> 하스웰 i5이긴 한데
[13:28] <commania> 1.4Ghz면...
[13:28] <commania> 안봐도 비디오.
[13:28] <commania> 아니,
[13:29] <samahui_tp> 그리고 미니 베어본은 말그대로 껍대기와 기판만 그가격이고 메모리 하드 포함은 가격이 또 오르죠
[13:29] <samahui_tp> 잘확인하세요
[13:29] <commania> i5에 1.4Ghz면 적어도 i3 성능은 하니
[13:29] <commania> 괜찮은편이네요?
[13:29] <commania> 이 목록의 기업들중에선 그나마 애플이 A/S는 좋은편이고
[13:29] <commania> '그나마'...
[13:30] <samahui_tp> 글쎄요
[13:30] <samahui_tp> 중소기업도 받는 사람에 따라서는 좋은곳도 있죠
[13:30] <samahui_tp> 적어도 애플보다는 ㅎㅎ
[13:30] <commania> 음...
[13:30] <samahui_tp> 애플이나 레노버나 ... AS는 하위호환이죠 ㅎㅎ
[13:30] <commania> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[13:31] <samahui_tp> 차라리 hp 에서 나온 프로데스크인가 그모델도 좋아요
[13:31] <commania> 지지난준가 올라가서 ssd 128G로 산소호흡기 붙여주고 왔네요
[13:31] <samahui_tp> 그리고 미니 베어본 구입할때 하드 메모리 포함으로 사지 마시고 하드와 메모리는 따로 구입하세요
[13:31] <samahui_tp> 조립 가능하시죠?
[13:31] <samahui_tp> 그럼 따로 사는게 훨~ 싸요
[13:31] <commania> 하드는 앞서 말한 128G SSD 있습니다
[13:32] <commania> 메모리는 DDR3 노트북용이면
[13:32] <commania> 중고로 하나에 3만원에도 사던데요ㅋㅋ
[13:32] <samahui_tp> 중학생이면 강의 동영상 같은거 받기에도 모자를거 같은데요
[13:32] <samahui_tp> SSD에 하드 하나 더 달아주세요
[13:32] <commania> 하드는 따로 붙여야죠.
[13:32] <samahui_tp> 네
[13:32] <commania> USB 3.0으로 지금 가지고 있는 외장하드를 붙여도 되고.
[13:32] <samahui_tp> 메모리 새것도 싸요
[13:33] <commania> 그렇군요.. 메모리 중고 3만원은 생각해보니 2013년도 얘기네요ㅋㅋ
[13:33] <samahui_tp> 8기가 이번에 제가 정말 저렴하게 샀거든요
[13:33] <commania> 삼성 노트북에 해킨토시 깔고 그래픽 램 부족해서 4기가 중고구매로 구입해 꽂으니
[13:33] <commania> 인식이 안 되서 램 슬롯 불량 판정 받고 메인보드 싹 교체한 게 딱 2년 전 이맘때네요
[13:33] <samahui_tp> 8기가 삼성램이 3만원후반에서 4만원 선입니다
[13:33] <commania> 오오...
[13:34] <samahui_tp> 제가 이번에 노트북에 달아주느라 ddr3 12800 저전력1.35v 두개해서 8만원도 안줬으니까요
[13:34] <samahui_tp> 삼성 정품 새것으로요
[13:34] <commania> 어쨌든 여러가지로 찾아보니 이제 진짜 웬만한 베어본은 가정용 PC로 쓰기에 무리가 없어 보이네요
[13:34] <samahui_tp> 그리고 쓸대없이 발품팔지말고 인터넷이 가장 쌉니다 ㅎㅎ;;
[13:34] <commania> 발품은 팔고 싶어도 못팝니다ㅎ
[13:35] <commania> 본가도 지금 살고있는 동네도 지독한 촌구석이라...
[13:35] <samahui_tp> 근디... 게임을 안한다 했으니 모르지만... 6세대 보급되면 더 싸질겁니다
[13:35] <samahui_tp> 아니
[13:35] <samahui_tp> 6세대 보급되면... 더 쓸만할겁니다
[13:35] <commania> 게임은 못 하게 할 겁니다... 저희 어머니 성격이면
[13:35] <samahui_tp> 내장 그래픽 성능이 왠만한 게임 돌아갈 정도거든요
[13:35] <samahui_tp> 고로 6세대 기다려보는것도 나쁘지는 않아요
[13:36] <samahui_tp> 그게 게임을 하라는게 아니라 ... 나중에 좀 아쉽죠
[13:36] <samahui_tp> 지금 6세대 나와서 한참 팔려나가는데... 5세대와 6세대 가장 큰 차이가 전력과 내장그래픽 성능이거든요
[13:36] <commania> 저도 게임 안 하고 자랐고 지금도 안 해서 그냥 X220 씁니다...ㅎㅎ
[13:36] <samahui_tp> 잘 생각해보고 고르시길..
[13:36] <commania> 당연 새제품으로 살려면
[13:36] <commania> 새로 나온게 좋죠
[13:36] <samahui_tp> 저도 X220습니다 흐흐흐
[13:36] <commania> 어차피 시간여유가 있으니
[13:36] <commania> 충분히 생각해보게요
[13:37] <samahui_tp> x220 좋쵸~
[13:37] <commania> 일단 욕구필드가 내년 여름은 확실히 못 버티고 퍼질것같아보이니...
[13:37] <commania> 어제 X220 풀업 문의드린게
[13:37] <samahui_tp> 제 마지막 TP가 될거 같습니다... 레트로 버젼 나오면 그거 봐서지만요 ㅎㅎ;;
[13:37] <commania> 티피홀릭 보고 문의드린거에요ㅎㅎ
[13:37] <samahui_tp> 아~
[13:37] <samahui_tp> ㅎㅎ;;
[13:37] <commania> 저도 하고 싶어서...
[13:37] <samahui_tp> 괜시리 비싸요
[13:37] <commania> 저는 이제 스무살인데.
[13:37] <samahui_tp> 하시려면 그냥 LCD만 하세요
[13:37] <commania> 테크 취향이 아재인가봐요
[13:37] <samahui_tp> FHD는 확실히 쓸만한데 나머지는 뻘짓입니다
[13:37] <commania> 쿼티폰 드로이드 4도 여태 못 놓고 있고...
[13:38] <samahui_tp> 이거 비밀인데 제껀 CPU도 쿼드로 개조한 버젼이거든요
[13:38] <commania> FHD는 레오킴님 게조 문의하니
[13:38] <samahui_tp> 근디 쓸모 없어요
[13:38] <commania> 32만원이라서@_@
[13:38] <samahui_tp> 저전력을 버리게 되니까요
[13:38] <commania> 포기했습니다
[13:38] <samahui_tp> FHD개조 싼겁니다 ㅜㅜ
[13:38] <samahui_tp> 전 풀개조 아니 제조 였어요
[13:38] <commania> 그러면 i7-2xxxQM이 들어가는군요 ㄷㄷ
[13:38] <samahui_tp> 새로 부품 다 사서
[13:38] <commania> 레오킴님 기술인가요...?
[13:38] <samahui_tp> 2715qe라는 모델 들어갑니다
[13:39] <samahui_tp> 저전력에 산업장비용이라 안정성이 높아서 이거로 했죠
[13:39] <samahui_tp> 레오킴님 도움을 좀 받았습니다
[13:39] <commania> 오오.
[13:39] <samahui_tp> 전 오래 된 메니아인지라
[13:39] <samahui_tp> 안면식이 있어서요
[13:39] <commania> 그래서 FHD 모니터 한 대 둔 것으로 만족하고 그냥 순정씽패로 쓰고 있습니다ㅎㅎ
[13:39] <commania> HD IPS는 멍이 심하다고 해서요
[13:40] <samahui_tp> 전 그걸 개선한 모델이예요
[13:40] <commania> 아, 고비3000 달았습니다. 그런데 레노버가 아니라 HP 인증제품이라 윈도우에서는 인식이 안 되고
[13:40] <commania> 우분투에서는 문제없이 인식이 됩니다.
[13:40] <samahui_tp> 귓말로
[13:40] <commania> 물론 바이오스 개조 하고요
[13:41] <commania> 음... 귓말을 어떻게 하는지 명령어가..
[13:41] <jason__> '/msg nick contents
[14:04] <commania> 한글 리눅스 버전은 2014가 나온다더니
[14:04] <commania> 안 나오네요
[14:05] <commania> 와인으로도 잘 돌려지고, 뷰어는 있으니 상관이야 없지만..
[14:05] <samahui_tp> 전 그냥 램 풀업해놓고 VB로 윈도우7깔아서 씁니다
[14:05] <commania> 원래는 MS워드를 주로 쓰는데, 리브레오피스로 만든 결과물을 MS워드에서 열면
[14:05] <commania> 엉망으로 나와서, 차라리 와인으로 한컴오피스 깔고 그걸 쓸까 고민중인데요.
[14:06] <commania> hwp를 써버리면 아이폰에서 파일 열어봐야 할 때 한 단계 더 거쳐야 하는 게 영 귀찮아서
[14:06] <commania> 미루고 미루고 있습니다.
[14:06] <samahui_tp> hwp 싫어요...관공서 그걸로 파일보내주면 역정내죠
[14:07] <commania> 학교 포탈에 올라오는 강의 자료는 다 PPT고
[14:08] <commania> 강의계획서 정도만 HWP여서, 요즘 이런 쪽으로 인식이 많이 좋아졌구나 싶긴 합니다
[14:08] <commania> 정작 학생들이 과제를 다 HWP로 제출하지만.
[14:08] <commania> 과제 제출 게시판에, 빨간색 한글 아이콘들 속에서 제가 낸 과제만 파란 워드 아이콘으로 빛난다던지.
[14:10] <commania> 사실 PPT도 다른 컴퓨터에서 열면 안 나오는 폰트가 많아서 PDF 사용을 장려해야하지 않나 싶지만.
[14:10] <commania> 일단은 못 여는 급한 문서는 없으니 안심입니다.
[14:17] <samahui_tp> 저희때는 워드로 내는 레포트도 많았지만... 간혹 교양등 교수님이 손글씨를 선호하셔서 힘들었었죠
[14:17] <samahui_tp> 전 극악의 악필이거든요... 천재는 악필이다! 라고 되도 않는 소문을 내고 다녔다는...
[14:18] <commania> 저도 악필입니다
[14:18] <commania> 이젠 그나마 가끔씩 멋들어졌다는 소리라도 듣지만
[14:18] <commania> 중딩시절 제 글씨는 암호수준...
[14:19] <samahui_tp> 군대간 동기에게 편지를 썼는데 다시 돌아오는정도 아니면 인정 안합니다
[14:19] <samahui_tp> ㅎㅎ
[14:19] <commania> 저희는 인문대 교양은 웬만하면 다 타이핑인데, 이상하게 자연대 쪽 수업은 손글씨를 좋아하셔서...
[14:20] <commania> 물리실험 예비 레포트를 '그려' 가야 합니다.
[14:20] <commania> 사실 벡터 그래프라던가 그려보는게 이해하는데 훨씬 도움이 되겠지만...
[14:21] <commania> 문제는 이 그래프야말로 그려 놓고 못 알아먹어서...
[14:21] <commania> 다시 돌아왔다는건...
[14:21] <commania> 난수암호로 오해 받아서인가요? ㄷㄷ
[14:22] <DarkCircle> 타자를 치면 두들기는 기억밖에 안나는데 제대로 그리고 써와라고 하면
[14:22] <DarkCircle> 그거 때문에 고생하는 기억이 남거든요. 그림이라든가 ... 그래서 그런걸 시키는거 같네요
[14:22] <samahui_tp> 그건 저도 그랬어요
[14:22] <DarkCircle> 학부때 필수교양 들을적에 교양과목이 죄다 손으로 글씨써서 제출하는 숙제들 ...
[14:22] <samahui_tp> 도면 그렸었죠
[14:23] <samahui_tp> ㅜㅜ
[14:23] <samahui_tp> 순서도...
[14:23] <samahui_tp> ㅜ ㅜ
[14:23] <DarkCircle> 공대생이 뭔 한자냐 했는데 그때 덕분에 꽤 많이 배웠죠. 까먹을뻔한거...
[14:23] <samahui_tp> 기억에 새록새록 나는군요
[14:23] <samahui_tp> ㅎㅎ;;
[14:23] <samahui_tp> 전 문학들었다가 ...
[14:23] <samahui_tp> 아무튼 고생은 스스로 사서 하는겁니다
[14:24] <DarkCircle> 영어 번역수업들을때도 타자쳐서 제출했더니
[14:24] <DarkCircle> "누가 이런걸 타자로 써서 내느뇨. 일주일 시간더줄께 다시 손으로 다 써오삼"
[14:24] * DarkCircle (그래서 클라스 하나가 통째로 다 빠꾸먹었다고 함니다 FiN)
[14:25] <samahui_tp> ㅎㅎ;; 비슷하게 전 다시 손으로 써오래서 필기체로 쳐갔죠...
[14:26] <samahui_tp> 지금 생각해보면 그때 무슨 깡이였는지...
[14:28] <samahui_tp> 그때 어찌 되었던가는 기억이 안나네요
[14:42] <commania> 한자...;;
[14:42] <commania> 그러고보니 이번 학기 수강 과목중 철학의 이해가 있는데
[14:43] <commania> 포탈에 초등학교 교과서 한자 병기 문제에 대해 온라인 토론방이 열려있습니다.
[14:43] <commania> 이제 한자 안 배워도 되는 세대가 오나 싶더라고요.
[14:51] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3669419&cpage=2
[14:51] <HolyKnight> 베트남으로 갑시다
[14:51] <samahui_tp> 유부당인게 안타깝습니다
[14:51] <samahui_tp> 베트남 좋은곳이군요
[14:52] <pchero_work> 우와.
[14:52] <pchero_work> 저런 곳이 있네요.
[15:33] <samahui_tp> 급 피곤하네요
[15:38] <ipeter> 아니 아직도 계신건가요.
[15:39] <ipeter> 어서 주무셔야할텐데요.
[15:40] <samahui_tp> ㅎㅎ 저도 그러고 싶어요
[19:51] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[19:51] <Work^Seony> 이번에 나온 툼레이더 정말 대박 쳤네요
[19:51] <autowiz_> 안녕하세요~~
[19:53] <Work^Seony> http://bbs2.ruliweb.daum.net/gaia/do/ruliweb/default/news/519/read?bbsId=G003&itemId=531&articleId=1901326
[19:53] <Work^Seony> 여기 어떤 분이 플레이영상 녹화해서 올렸네요
[19:53] <Work^Seony> 심심하시면 보세요. 보는 것만으로도 재밌으실 겁니다 ㅎㅎ
[20:07] <autowiz_> 엄청 나긴 하네요 와우
[20:08] <Work^Seony> 네. 저기에다 헤드폰 쓰고 진동 오는 컨트롤러 잡고하면 더 재밌어요
[20:14] <ihavnoth> 안녕하세요?
[20:14] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[20:14] <Work^Seony> ihavnoth님은 이 시간에 첨 뵙네요 ㅎㅎ
[20:16] <ihavnoth> 주로 이시간에 야근 중이라서요
[20:16] <ihavnoth> 오늘은 다들 퇴근해서 조금 여유롭네요
[20:16] <Work^Seony> 헐... 이 시간이면 야근도 아니고 일찍 출근한 것도 아닌데
[20:16] <Work^Seony> 회사가 좀 너무하네요
[20:17] <ihavnoth> 내일 오전에 회의가 있어서 준비해야 해요
[20:18] <ihavnoth> 내비게이션 업체에서 위치 정보가 늦게 올라온다네요...
[20:18] <ihavnoth> 전 코딩한게 없는데.... 안드로이드 + u-blox hal...
[20:19] <Work^Seony> 이 동네에서 진짜 그렇게 일시켰다간 바로 소송감이라...
[20:20] <ihavnoth> 로그 확보하고 회의 들어가야겠어요
[20:20] <autowiz_> ㅎㅎ 소송 조으다 ㅋㅋ
[20:20] <ihavnoth> 한국에선 대통령 최우선 과제가 경제성장이라서...
[20:21] <ihavnoth> 중소기업에서 직원들 노동력 착취하는 것에 대해서 규제가 전무하죠
[20:21] <Work^Seony> 미국도 그렇게 일하는데가 몇군데 있낀한데,
[20:21] <Work^Seony> 대신 월급이 장난이 아니죠...
[20:22] <ihavnoth> 전 직장에서 9시까지 야근하는 것에 대해서 불만이 있어서 이직했는데... 여긴 퇴근 시간이 없네요
[20:23] <Work^Seony> 저야 뭐 늘 말씀드리지만, 한국에서 IT 하시는 분들은 어서 외국 나가셔야합니다
[20:23] <ihavnoth> 물론 약간의 재미 있어요
[20:23] <ihavnoth> 자동차 AVN 개발이라서 처음 접하는게 많네요
[20:24] <ihavnoth> 갑자기 글씨에 음영이 들어가네요 ^.^
[20:25] <Work^Seony> 음...
[20:25] <Work^Seony> 아무리 재미가 있더라도,
[20:26] <Work^Seony> 5시 퇴근해서 하시고 싶으신거 7시간 동안 하다가 12시에 주무시는게 낫죠
[20:26] <ihavnoth> 그러면 좋지만 현실은 멀기만하네요
[20:26] <ihavnoth> 아래 층 중국마사지 있어서 몸좀 풀고 와야겠네요
[20:27] <Work^Seony> 해외로 진출하시는 겁니다 ㅎㅎ
[20:27] <ihavnoth> 몇시부터 할인하는지 모르겠네요
[20:30] <ihavnoth> 검색해보니 오전 10시부터 할인이군요...
[20:31] <Work^Seony> 흐..
[20:31] <Work^Seony> 저는 요즘 나이 먹었는지, 새벽 2시만 넘어가면 꾸벅꾸벅 졸아요
[20:32] <autowiz_> 그게 정상입니다.
[21:11] <autowiz_> 좀 이르지만 아침? 을 먹고 좀 쉬다 오겠습니다. ㅎㅎ
[21:40] <DarkCircle> 는 배고프군요 ㅡ,.ㅡ ...
[21:40] <DarkCircle> 자야되는데 ...
[21:40] <DarkCircle> 오늘 밥 남기지 말아야지 -ㅅ-
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[12:03] * apw notes that linux-lts-wily has dropped into universe, this is inconsistent with the other linux0lts-* kernels
[12:54] <cjwatson> y
[12:54] <cjwatson> sorry
[17:08] <bdmurray> If a release isn't on archive.ubuntu.com any more where does it go? old-releases or something?
[17:09] <ogra_> yeah
[17:09] <bdmurray> Ah, I was missing the hyphen.
[18:38] <chrisccoulson> could someone please approve that ^
[18:44] <infinity> chrisccoulson: I might have the technology.
[18:45] <infinity> chrisccoulson: I assume (other than perhaps the blob differing) it's basically the same as wily's?
[18:45] * infinity looks.
[18:47] * infinity looks veeeeery slowly, as it downloads at 15kB/s ..
[18:48] <chrisccoulson> infinity, yeah it's a copy of wily's, with the updated versions
[18:48] <infinity> chrisccoulson: Check. I'll confirm that assertion when the download finishes and let it in.
[18:48] <teward> infinity: too bad I can't give you my blazing speeds :/ (I know the 'slow download speeds' problem)
[18:48] <teward> (wish i could, i'm not using it)
[18:48] <infinity> teward: It's not me, it's something between me and London.
[18:48] <teward> ooo
[18:48] <infinity> teward: I get 200Mbps from other sources. :P
[18:49] <teward> heh
[18:49] <infinity> Just having a bad day across the ocean.
[18:50] <teward> infinity: mm. i wonder if one of the cross-ocean ISPs/links is down again :p
[18:51] <infinity> It's just as6908 being crap as usual.
[18:51] <infinity> Seems to be recovering now.
[18:51] <teward> heh
[18:53] <infinity> chrisccoulson: Looketh good to me, acceptified.
[18:54] <chrisccoulson> infinity, thanks. Would you be able to accept precise -> wily as well? (I'm just going to upload those now)
[18:54] <infinity> chrisccoulson: Yep. Upload away.
[18:55] <chrisccoulson> infinity, ok, those are uploaded now
[19:16] <infinity> chrisccoulson: One thing to note. Your versioning scheme is going to break VERY SOON.
[19:17] <infinity> chrisccoulson: Less of an issue for precise->wily, but you should start with using numbers in xenial, since we'll wrap around the alphabet between xenial and the next LTS.
[19:18] <infinity> chrisccoulson: Oh, I guess you probably want to switch to numbers for all of them to preserve sorting anyway. But yeah, make a note of that for the next upstream bump, perhaps.
[19:20] <cjwatson> this is why we tried to do it for everything else while <release name> < "ubuntu" ...
[19:20] <infinity> Yeah. We seem to have missed flash. :P
[19:27] <mdeslaur> what's wrong with 1:20151110.1-0zygotic.is.really.accomplished1? ;)
[19:28] <chrisccoulson> heh
[19:33] <infinity> chrisccoulson: So, yeah, promise me the next upstream version bump will use versioning more like firefox's. ;)
[19:34] <chrisccoulson> infinity, sure :)
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:56] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.684338
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"dholbach"
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2015-11-10-#lubuntu
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[00:27] <ianorlin> iynque: that might be a bug but not very important
[00:29] <iynque> Yes, I saw a bug report online with the same spelling. I dunno what to do with the information though (because I’m a noob).
[00:29] <iynque> No idea what the origin is or where to fix it :B
[00:29] <iynque> (or how to find out)
[04:22] <vn> heya, hesitating between lubuntu, ubuntu and kali2 because of steam, hows steam setup doing on lubuntu lately?
[04:44] <ianorlin> vn it is the same as regular ubuntu. steam may need more gpu power than some old hardware, desktop environment does not matter that much for performance of gaming
[05:05] <vn> ianorlin: ok thanks, thought it may matter on setup, will try!
[05:08] <ianorlin> I am not sure you can install steam from lubuntu software center itself I know it is if you install the software-center package
[05:08] <ianorlin> if you use the .deb from valves site lubuntu installed it with gedbi last time I treid it
[09:30] <qzero> hi all
[12:25] <Ubik_> anyone here?
[12:26] <redwolf> yes :)
[12:26] <Ubik_> cool
[12:26] <Ubik_> i made a persistent usb with version 15.10 and ran update manager
[12:26] <Ubik_> and now I have a system error pop up bur everything runs fine
[12:27] <Ubik_> is it a weird idea to update a live usb?
[12:27] <redwolf> the bug report dialog?
[12:27] <Ubik_> there was a linux image (or so...) install
[12:27] <redwolf> yes, maybe the new kernel
[12:28] <Ubik_> probably it says system error
[12:28] <Ubik_> probably,
[12:28] <Ubik_> and possbility to report
[12:28] <redwolf> a persistent system should work the same way a disk installed one
[12:29] <Ubik_> ah ok , was wondring
[12:29] <Ubik_> wondering
[12:29] <redwolf> I got errors to report sometimes, but that's nothing really serious unless you see real glitches that makes you unable to work
[12:29] <redwolf> so don't worry :)
[12:29] <redwolf> the apport app looks for every single little error it finds :)
[12:30] <Ubik_> ok, no it runs perfectly, even sound that had to force reload works straight
[12:30] <redwolf> nice :=
[12:30] <redwolf> :)
[12:31] <Ubik_> do u think it is safe to install from this live disk?
[12:32] <redwolf> yes, I did it a couple times
[12:33] <Ubik_> and do u know when version 16.xx lts will be available?
[12:33] <redwolf> the version numbers are the dates. so 16.04 means it will be released in April 2016
[12:33] <Ubik_> OK glad to learn that!
[12:34] <redwolf> :)
[12:34] <Ubik_> do update manager upgrade the distro?
[12:35] <redwolf> yes, when the new release is ready you'll get a message allowing you to upgrade your whole system
[12:35] <Ubik_> will that be a choice? i guess so
[12:36] <redwolf> yes, you can postpone it, ignore it if you want
[12:36] <Ubik_> ok, thx for infos, I like the simplicity of lubuntu desktop
[12:36] <redwolf> we're glad you like it :)
[19:39] <epictetus> hiya. I just installed lubuntu on a laptop with an EMMC ssd, tried to setup duel boot, it just boots straight into windows -- it's a new (UEFI) laptop, i booted into rescue mode and reinstalled grub to /dev/emmcblk0 and same thing, it just boots straight into windows
[19:40] <epictetus> i did notice some /dev/emmcblk0boot0 etc devices, not sure what those are / if it's some EFI thing
[19:40] <epictetus> also the BIOS had options "boot of emmc" and "Windows boot loader", both boot options seem to do the same thing
[19:41] <redwolf> so it's a UEFI computer?
[19:41] <redwolf> have you used the UEFI (100mb) partition as a uefiboot partition?
[19:42] <epictetus> i mounted it in my rescue environment as /boot/efi I think
[19:42] <epictetus> while reinstalling grub
[19:42] <epictetus> inside the chroot
[19:43] <redwolf> have you prepared your BIOS? tried with legacy support?
[19:44] <redwolf> or at least deactivating secure boot? that usually locks down the grub load and jumps into Windows
[19:45] <epictetus> ooh I just disabled secure boot
[19:45] <epictetus> maybe secure boot is part of it
[19:45] <epictetus> nope hmm. Inside the UEFI folder I def see a "ubuntu" folder
[19:45] <redwolf> it was for me
[19:46] <epictetus> maybe I need to switch to legacy although it wouldnt boot off the usb lubuntu installer sick in legacy mode
[19:47] <redwolf> or just deactivating the secure boot. switching to legacy while installing and reactivating it after the setup process may lock it as well
[19:48] <redwolf> http://askubuntu.com/questions/582712/full-lubuntu-installation-on-usb-uefi-capable
[19:48] <epictetus> maybe i should just get rid of the stupid win10 partition I just thought "hmm it might come in handy some day"
[19:48] <redwolf> hah! I did that finally
[19:49] <epictetus> i was really really good with partition/bios/boot loader stuff in the LILO / grub 1.0 etc BIOS days but now this UEFI stuff seems like a lot more complicated
[19:50] <epictetus> ooooh figured it out kinda sorta not really. Once I "approved" the UEFI entries as secure now I can pick those, yay
[19:50] <redwolf> yyup
[20:07] <joseph> hello
[20:08] <Guest10575> I was wanting to know why I can't install programs on my computer
[20:08] <Guest10575> I have the last verson from last year
[20:10] <redwolf> Guest10575, are you using the Software Center?
[20:10] <Guest10575> yes
[20:11] <redwolf> and they download?
[20:11] <Guest10575> no
[20:11] <redwolf> what error do you get?
[20:11] <epictetus> doh now sound doesn't work whoops hehe.
[20:12] <epictetus> noticing that alsamixer calls the card "HDA Intel PCH" and the chip "Intel Braswell HDMI" i wonder if it is only seeing the HDMI audio and not the main audio
[20:12] <epictetus> (it's some intel onboard thing)
[20:12] <Guest10575> i get the error it wants to download files from untrusted sources
[20:13] <redwolf> untrusted? have you added additional PPAs / sources?
[20:14] <Guest10575> do not know where to find that
[20:14] <Guest10575> I have tryed to use terminal it acts like it is dowloading but it does not
[20:14] <redwolf> maybe you should change your download server. go to Software Properties (in System menu) and choose a closer server. refresh and it should fix it
[20:16] <Guest10575> it is set on united states
[20:16] <redwolf> make it search for the fastest one and refresh
[20:16] <redwolf> sorry, I have to leave for a while
[20:17] <Guest10575> ah ok, how do I do that
[20:18] <redwolf> in software properties, search for the sources / servers tab
[20:19] <redwolf> or in the main tab, "Download from" combobox
[20:19] <redwolf> tab "Ubuntu software"
[20:20] <Guest10575> ah ok thanks
[20:21] <epictetus> crap, so it works on headphones but not on the speakers. whoops
[20:26] <phillw> hi Guest10575
[20:27] <Guest10575> hi
[20:28] <phillw> can you briefly explain to me the issue(s) you are having with the software centre. I've only had a prod to come and assist so do not know the issue(s) you are having.
[20:30] <Guest10575> it was just saying that some of the files are coming from untrusted sources and then it would not download
[20:31] <Guest10575> It would not update any of the files to get new products on the softwhere center
[20:31] <phillw> Guest10575: you need to add the security key for some ppa's...
[20:31] <Guest10575> ah
[20:31] <Guest10575> how do you do that
[20:33] <phillw> Guest10575: the quickest way to have LSC reset itself and re-configure is to launch lxterminal and issue
[20:33] <phillw> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lubuntu-software-center
[20:34] <phillw> then let me know what untrusted source you are trying to add.
[20:34] <phillw> wb redwolf
[20:35] <redwolf> :)
[20:37] <Guest10575> it is showing up on all the things I want to download
[20:37] <Guest10575> gimp
[20:37] <phillw> redwolf: ^^ how to reset LSC, jorn told me about it as part of bug 1467517
[20:37] <redwolf> yes, sometimes in 15.10
[20:38] <phillw> Guest10575: are you happy with the ability to install now. I was not familiar of it affecting a standard desktop system
[20:39] <phillw> Guest10575: if you gimp install goes okay, please do say on here. I can then update the bug.
[20:40] <Guest10575> i am using 14.10
[20:40] <phillw> *your*
[20:40] <Guest10575> I am not at the computer right now
[20:42] <phillw> Guest10575: ahh, 14.10 is no longer supported... I do reccommend that you create a seperate /home are and use 15.10... You can update from 14.10 to 15.04, but get that done before 15.04 goes End of Life as well.
[21:03] <Langley> Hey, anyone awake?
[21:03] <redwolf> yes :)
[21:04] <Langley> It seems like all Ubuntu based distros occationally freezes on my system... any ideas?
[21:04] <redwolf> all of them?!
[21:05] <Langley> Every single one I've tried
[21:05] <Langley> Actually, Debian based. Mint Debian did it too
[21:05] <redwolf> what computer do you have?
[21:05] <Langley> Normal AMD desktop
[21:05] <redwolf> and what do you mean with "freezing"?
[21:05] <Langley> Becomes completely unresponsive randomly
[21:06] <Langley> In some distros I can sometimes REISUB, but only rarely
[21:06] <redwolf> have you tried an RPM distro just to compare?
[21:06] <redwolf> Suse, Fedora...
[21:07] <Langley> All those are fine
[21:07] <Langley> Opensuse was at least
[21:08] <redwolf> odd, I have plenty AMD chips here now. and my last computers were AMD K7 and K8. worked smooth
[21:09] <Langley> Yeah I'm stumped... it's really annoying since most Ubuntu distros are pretty nice
[21:09] <redwolf> well, I don't know what to say, if Debian and all DEB distros fail you should consider using another kind
[21:10] <Langley> Yeah I guess... Until I get a new computer in 10 years or so
[21:10] <redwolf> O.O
[21:11] <redwolf> it will work in the Raspberry Pi2 so.. :)
[21:11] <Langley> What will?
[21:11] <redwolf> Ubuntu and Lubuntu
[21:11] <Langley> Not powerful enough...
[21:12] <redwolf> but nice! :D
[21:14] <Langley> But I need power... Unlimited power
[21:17] <redwolf> O.O
[21:17] <redwolf> are you going to build a company or something? :)
[21:18] <Langley> Nah probably not. I don't even know if I would dare running linux in a company
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-pl
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[00:45] <Alessar> Hi. Anybody has expiriense with perforce system?
[01:58] <Voldenet> Alessar: ale wiesz, że to plski kanał? :)
[02:00] <Voldenet> co do perforce - większość korpo używa svn/gita, bo są darmowe i standardowe
[02:03] <Alessar> Voldenet: Looks like all from perforce channel are sleeping :-(
[02:04] <Voldenet> no cóż, perforce nie wygląda na dobre rozwiązanie
[02:04] <Voldenet> kolejny własnościowy produkt, podczas gdy ustabilizowały się rozwiązania open source
[07:58] <sysek> to jest polski kanał?!
[09:16] <gjm> polska dla polakuw !!11
[09:16] <gjm> jak tam moi patrioci
[09:16] <gjm> idziemy jutro pozrywać bruk z ulicy?
[09:18] <gjm> https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12193745_849783481785333_3886000123579505441_n.jpg?oh=11081c12142c30f8ac751b78eb7de92e&oe=56EFCBA9
[09:18] <gjm> już nawet nie potrzeba
[09:18] <sysek> :o
[09:21] <firemark> ammo
[09:25] <dweller> ale kulturalnie
[09:25] <dweller> nie trzeba wyciągać z chodnika
[14:35] <Voldenet> gjm: TAK JEST
[14:35] <Voldenet> ja już robię nacięcia wokół trasy marszów
[14:35] <Voldenet> żeby łatwiej kostki wychodziły
[14:35] <firemark> :D
[14:35] <Voldenet> Postawa obywatelska
[14:38] <Bodzioslaw> Ja mu pożyczyłem szlifierkę
[14:38] <Bodzioslaw> Voldenet: tylko nie zepsuj, drogie było
[14:38] <Bodzioslaw> gjm: haha, przygotowanie juz :DDD
[14:38] <Bodzioslaw> pewnie seby pracowały
[14:38] <Bodzioslaw> >ej chlopaki, zostawmy sobie materiały na marsz, po chuj będziemy to układąc
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.705527
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-kernel
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[08:23] <samson-uo> Hello
[08:23] <samson-uo> Someone mind pushing the latest set of tags to git?
[08:24] <samson-uo> for the now-public CVE-2015-5307
[08:26] <samson-uo> well, to their respective git repos anyway. Precise (3.2), Trusty (3.13), Vivid (3.19), and wily (4.2)
[09:08] <henrix> samson-uo: sure, that will happen in the next couple of hours.
[10:49] <henrix> and for anyone who cares: all git repositories should now be updated with that CVE fix
[13:56] <rtg> cking, re: bug #1480349 - a new intel-microcode was synced to Xenial from Debian a few hours ago. intel-microcode | 3.20151106.1
[13:57] <cking> rtg, yep, i'll prod the users to test with the latest fixes, whatever they were, since intel does not like divulging the details
[13:58] <rtg> indeed. lets hope isn't the disaster the last update was
[13:58] <rtg> it isn't*
[13:58] <cking> rtg, will this intel microcode be available for Wily, or is it just a Xenial sync?
[13:59] <rtg> cking, just xenial for now. if it makes a positive difference, then we can pursue an SRU
[14:01] <cking> rtg, considering I've not found any H/W (nor has Intel) that can reproduce this issue, it is a weird one
[14:02] <rtg> cking, yeah, we might have to rely on the kindness (or frustration) of strangers :)
[14:03] <cking> and considering it may be a microcode issue, it's not possible to reverse engineer it to fix it :-/
[14:24] <mamarley> I am trying to recompile the kernel package for 4.2.0-18-generic on wily (so that I can apply a patch), but when I compile it (using "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic"), I get the error "cc1: fatal error: /home/michael/Source/linux/linux-4.2.0/ubuntu/vbox/vboxguest/include/VBox/VBoxGuestMangling.h: No such file or directory".
[14:25] <mamarley> I didn't get that error when I compiled 4.2.0-17-generic the same way.
[14:34] <rtg> mamarley, try compiling from the git repository ?
[14:34] <rtg> though it sounds like there could be an error in packaging.
[14:42] <mamarley> rtg: This one? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-wily.git/
[14:43] <rtg> mamarley, yup, then 'git reset --hard Ubuntu-4.2.0-18.22; fakeroot debian/rules clean binary-generic'
[14:43] <mamarley> OK, thanks, I will try that.
[15:45] <mamarley> rtg: That worked, thanks!
[16:51] <samson-uo> henrix: I see them now, thanks!
[17:53] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: hi
[17:59] <jsalisbury> cristian_c, sorry, I really havnen't had much time to dig into that bug recently. I'll try to get to it soon.
[17:59] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: if you don'tmhave time, I can talk with guys in #linux-wireless channel
[18:00] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: could it be a good idea?
[18:00] <jsalisbury> cristian_c, it wouldn't hurt. It would be good to get some feedback from the upstream developers and see if they have any ideas
[18:01] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: ok
[18:02] <kdub> hey all, trying to compile the flo vivid kernel, but when trying to pack the zImage into the boot.img from phablet-dev-bootstrap, its complaining that the produced zImage is too big
[18:02] <kdub> any ideas?
[18:04] <rtg> kdub, turn off ext2/ext3 in favour of CONFIG_EXT4_USE_FOR_EXT23=y
[18:04] <kdub> rtg, thanks, will give it a try
[18:04] <rtg> kdub, have a look at the mako branch
[18:35] <kdub> rtg, thanks for the tip, that seemed to get me over that hurdle
[18:37] <rtg> kdub, no problem
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.718642
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-tr
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[07:20] <ogny> gunaydin
[07:20] <ogny> Kartagis: avconv ile altyazı isin halloldu mu
[07:22] <Kartagis> gunaydin
[07:22] <Kartagis> zaten altyazi gomebiliyorum da karakter kodu sorunu var
[20:05] <systemedic> onur, sende heryerdesin birader
[20:05] <systemedic> :)
[20:05] <onur> yeni geldim systemedic :-)
[20:10] <x1x> Allah'ın selamı üzerinize olsun.
[20:12] <command> as. x1x
[20:12] <command> cam var mı?
[20:12] <command> burası kastı skype gecelim
[20:12] <command> x1x, ordamısın
[20:13] <command> skype versene
[20:15] <x1x> whatsap geçelim command
[20:16] <x1x> soru sorabilir miyim arkadaşlar ?
[20:16] <x1x> diye soru sormak caiz midir
[20:16] <x1x> bekliyorum
[20:20] <thiras> degildir
[20:20] <thiras> direk sormak caizdir
[20:22] <command> thiras, cam var mı
[20:22] <command> thiras, asl ? nerden
[20:23] <thiras> 56 f hak
[20:23] <thiras> hak hakkari
[20:23] <x1x> bende adana merkez
[20:23] <x1x> 56 mı ?
[20:23] <x1x> hak mı hakkari
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.722884
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"command",
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu+1
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[12:55] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[18:06] <vitimiti> Apart from my computer being bad, the qt5.5 repository isn't giving me a single problem after the global menu was fixed
[21:47] <elhoir> hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu 16.04 will bring LLVM 3.7 enabled? (i would want to have OpenGL 4.x support :P )
[21:48] <OerHeks> elhoir, yes > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/llvm-3.7-dev
[21:49] <elhoir> oih, so i have to install the -dev package to have it enabled?!
[21:49] <elhoir> didnt know that
[21:50] <OerHeks> no no, i just pointed to the package, i should have given https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.7 so it will be available.
[21:51] <elhoir> ahhh ok
[21:51] <elhoir> so i have to install llvm-toolchain-3.7
[21:51] <elhoir> will try :)
[21:52] <elhoir> uh, apt cant find it
[21:53] <Pici> thats the source package name, and it looks like the build are still sitting in proposed
[21:54] <elhoir> here it says its in release :-/ https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.7
[21:55] <elhoir> weird
[21:56] * elhoir changes APT sources server
[21:56] <Pici> elhoir: I'm sorry, you're right, anyway, the binary package names for that do not match that name exactly
[21:56] <Pici> !info llvm-3.7
[21:58] * elhoir has just installed llvm-3.7 .... maybe i have to reboot to have 4.x OGL support....
[22:00] <elhoir> my GPUO is an AMD HD6750
[22:00] <elhoir> which is OGL 4.2 capable
[22:01] <elhoir> and, an AMD HD8400 in my laptop :P
[22:01] <elhoir> both 4.x
[22:02] <elhoir> but im stuck with 3.3 because of llvm
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.726648
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"BluesKaj",
"OerHeks",
"Pici",
"elhoir",
"vitimiti"
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"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-irc
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[14:07] <popey> I know we've fixed this before, but it seems to have broken again - #ubuntu-phone shows invite only, but should redirect to #ubuntu-touch... how do I fix this?
[14:07] <Unit193> Are you already in -touch?
[14:07] <popey> i am
[14:08] <Unit193> Part that one, then join -phone, it'll redirect.
[14:08] <popey> problem is other people get confused by that
[14:08] <Unit193> That is to say, it shows as invite only because you already are in the forwarded channel.
[14:08] <popey> they're in #ubuntu-touch, and then try and join #ubuntu-phone because they see some reference to it
[14:08] <popey> and get the same message i did
[14:09] <Unit193> You can't have IRC tell them about the forward.
[14:09] <Pici> It's an ircd limitation.
[14:10] <Pici> Cleaning up the references to #ubuntu-phone would be the only solution :/
[14:15] <popey> okay, thanks
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.729454
| 2015-11-10T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Pici",
"Unit193",
"popey"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
}
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2015-11-10-#maas
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[01:38] <mup> Bug #1514648 opened: unable to modify architecture <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514648>
[08:40] <nitin_> can anybody help me?
[08:40] <nitin_> I uploaded a centOS generated image in MAAS
[08:41] <nitin_> but it is not coming as an option in Settings of MAAS web UI
[09:06] <nitin_> I uploaded a centOS generated image in MAAS
[09:06] <nitin_> but it is not coming as an option in Settings of MAAS web UI
[09:06] <nitin_> how to solve this?
[09:07] <roaksoax_> nitin_: MAAS provides CentOS images now
[09:07] <roaksoax_> nitin_: have you tried changing your Image sources to dailys?
[09:08] <nitin_> no
[09:08] <nitin_> how can I upload MAAS provided CentOS images?
[09:09] <roaksoax_> nitin_: go to the settings page, change the Image URL from http://.../release to http://..../daily
[09:09] <roaksoax_> nitin_: and then go back to the Images page
[09:09] <roaksoax_> nitin_: and you should see the CentOS images available
[09:09] <nitin_> okk
[09:11] <nitin_> but i have one question..
[09:11] <nitin_> i want to upload my custom CentOS image
[09:11] <nitin_> what should be the image format??
[09:12] <roaksoax_> nitin_: then you have to upload it as a custom image in MAAS, not as a centos image
[09:12] <nitin_> ok
[09:12] <nitin_> but what should be its format
[09:12] <nitin_> .img or .iso or something else?
[09:13] <roaksoax_> nitin_: a root image
[09:13] <roaksoax_> https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/os-support.html
[09:41] <binoy> how to get the details of the hardware using maas-api
[09:41] <binoy> i need to get all the details
[09:41] <binoy> $ lshw o/p
[11:47] <nitin_> i have an issue
[11:48] <nitin_> after uploading custom centOS images in MAAS
[11:49] <nitin_> the option for selecting image is not showing centOS in Settings section of MAAS web UI
[11:49] <nitin_> can anybody help me?
[14:43] <mup> Bug #1514862 opened: Add partition and logical volume fstype and mount point are not aligned <storage> <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514862>
[15:19] <mup> Bug #1514883 opened: Maas 1.9 use pxe network of RC to collect boot-images <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514883>
[15:22] <mup> Bug #1514883 changed: Maas 1.9 use pxe network of RC to collect boot-images <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514883>
[15:25] <mup> Bug #1514883 opened: Maas 1.9 use pxe network of RC to collect boot-images <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514883>
[15:31] <mup> Bug #1514883 changed: Maas 1.9 use pxe network of RC to collect boot-images <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514883>
[15:46] <mup> Bug #1514883 opened: Maas 1.9 use pxe network of RC to collect boot-images <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514883>
[16:49] <mup> Bug #1478067 changed: sgdisk: command not found for precise <oil> <curtin:Triaged> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478067>
[16:49] <mup> Bug #1514888 opened: curtin needs to notice that gdisk is not installed, and install it <regression> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514888>
[16:52] <mup> Bug #1514888 changed: curtin needs to notice that gdisk is not installed, and install it <regression> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514888>
[16:52] <mup> Bug #1478067 opened: sgdisk: command not found for precise <oil> <curtin:Triaged> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478067>
[16:55] <mup> Bug #1478067 changed: sgdisk: command not found for precise <oil> <curtin:Triaged> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478067>
[16:55] <mup> Bug #1514888 opened: curtin needs to notice that gdisk is not installed, and install it <regression> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514888>
[16:58] <mup> Bug #1514888 changed: curtin needs to notice that gdisk is not installed, and install it <regression> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514888>
[16:58] <mup> Bug #1478067 opened: sgdisk: command not found for precise <oil> <curtin:Triaged> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478067>
[17:01] <mup> Bug #1478067 changed: sgdisk: command not found for precise <oil> <curtin:Triaged> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1478067>
[17:01] <mup> Bug #1514888 opened: curtin needs to notice that gdisk is not installed, and install it <regression> <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514888>
[18:19] <cholcombe> question about zones for everyone. is it possible to query maas from a charm to figure out what zones are present?
[18:20] <cholcombe> i see the API endpoint :). I guess as long as my charm knows about maas it should be fine
[19:41] <mup> Bug #1266840 opened: maas-dns failed to install completely on Trusty <amd64> <apport-bug> <trusty> <MAAS:New> <maas (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266840>
[20:59] <mup> Bug #1266840 changed: maas-dns failed to install completely on Trusty <amd64> <apport-bug> <trusty> <MAAS:Fix Released> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266840>
[21:11] <mup> Bug #1266840 changed: maas-dns failed to install completely on Trusty <amd64> <apport-bug> <trusty> <MAAS:Fix Released> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266840>
[22:17] <mup> Bug #1515020 opened: 400 Bad Request when enlisting a node <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515020>
[22:23] <mup> Bug #1515020 changed: 400 Bad Request when enlisting a node <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515020>
[22:29] <mup> Bug #1515020 opened: 400 Bad Request when enlisting a node <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515020>
[22:42] <roaksoax_> cholcombe: /win 9
[22:42] <roaksoax_> err
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-fi
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[08:21] <Maakuth> Mikaela, nyt on hsts ja mozillan suositusten intermediate cipher suite päällä linux.fi:ssä
[08:21] <Mikaela> :)
[08:21] <Maakuth> täytyy joskus taas kiristää tuota, luulen että toi voi olla siedettävä kompromissi, että pystyy vanhempiakin clienttejä palvelemaan
[08:22] <Maakuth> mutta pelkästä http:stä eteenpäin jo siedettävä päivitys
[08:28] <Maakuth> no mitäs, nytkö minä rikoin sen
[08:28] <Maakuth> Issued By: happy hacker fake CA
[08:28] <Maakuth> kiitos tästä :D'
[08:30] <Mikaela> kuulostaa siltä, että unohdit jonkin betalipun ja ajoit sinne testicertin
[08:30] <Maakuth> nähtävästi näin. no, nyt toimii taas. pitääpä katsoa vähän tarkemmin kun uusii tuota
[08:31] <Maakuth> sertti on helmikuulle voimassa, siihen mennessähän tuon pitäisi olla jo pois betasta
[08:32] <Mikaela> ensiviikolla jos https://letsencrypt.org/2015/08/07/updated-lets-encrypt-launch-schedule.html pitää yhä paikkansa
[08:33] <Maakuth> jees, hienoa
[08:48] <StockAntenna> millä toi letscrypt elelee?
[08:48] <Maakuth> https://letsencrypt.org/ etusivulla on jokunen aika varakas sponsori
[08:52] <StockAntenna> noita myönnetään varmaan ensi vuonna hillitön määrä
[08:53] <Maakuth> jo vain
[08:54] <Maakuth> linux.fi on hyvä esimerkki sellaisesta, joka tuosta hyötyy. palvelun pyörittämisessä ei liiku ollenkaan rahaa, niin se muutamanakin euron sertin osto on ongelma
[08:56] <StockAntenna> eiköhän valtava määrä saitteja siirry https:ään ton avulla, mitkä eivät ole viitsineet ostaa serttiä aiemmin
[08:57] <Maakuth> epäilemättä
[08:57] <Maakuth> ja kun toi niiden softa tulee riittävän hyväksi, niin noi iaas/paas palvelut vois tarjota ihan defaulttina osana alustaa tota ssl:ää, niiden omasta let's encryptin näköisestä infrasta
[08:58] <Maakuth> tai miksei tietysti tuostakin, mutta joku amazon varmaan mielellään kontrolloisi tuotakin osaa
[09:11] <ansa> amazon yrittää jo päästä certificate authorityksi, mutta tuntuu olevan aika hankalaa saada nuo omat root-ca:t mukaan mozillalle ja muille
[09:22] <Maakuth> onkohan sille joku tekninen syy
[09:22] <Maakuth> luulis että amazon, google, msft ja muut itsestäänselvästi pyörittäisi ca:ta omiin tarpeisiinsa
[09:24] <ansa> enemmän varmaan taloudellisoikeudellinen, Mozillakin kaipaa kaikenlaisia ulkopuolisia auditointeja että hyväksyvät
[09:24] <ansa> ja varmaan noillakin on sisäiseen käyttöön omia ca:ta, mutta elleivät aio myöntää ulkopuolisille ja sellaiseen käyttöön että selaintenkin pitää hyväksyä, niin ei tuo prosessi varmaankaan kannata
[09:26] <Maakuth> joo. noi ca:t vaan tuntuu niin korruptoituneilta ja hulluilta firmoilta kun niiden touhuja katsoo, että vaikea kuvitella sen riman olevan järin korkealla
[09:27] <tjp> /win 21
[09:39] <elias_a> Kertokaas mulle mitä nämä vahinkolaukaukset ovat. Mitä komennellaan esim. tuossa ^?
[09:39] <Maakuth> vaihtaa kanavaa irssissä
[09:39] <elias_a> Jaa jaa...
[09:40] <elias_a> Onkos tossa jotain etuja Alt+numero/kirjain -menetelmään?
[09:48] <StockAntenna> numeroita on vaan 0-9?
[09:49] <StockAntenna> tais olla kyllä joku keino taikoa alt-yhdistelmiä isommillekin kanavanumeroille
[09:51] <elias_a> StockAntenna: Mulla kyllä toimii vielä q- ja w-näppäimetkin valinnassa.
[09:55] <StockAntenna> mitä alt-q ja alt-w pitäs tehdä kanavavalinnassa?
[10:00] <StockAntenna> https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:PendingCAs näyttää Mozillalla Amatsoni olevan need info from CA-vaiheessa
[10:02] <StockAntenna> on siellä jonossa meidän VRK ja näemmä jokin letsencryptinkin sertti
[10:03] <Maakuth> let's encryptillähän on cross signing joltain toiselta auktoriteetilta nyt
[10:10] <tjp> VRK on tainnut olla jonossa aika kauan :)
[10:10] <ansa> VRK tais luovuttaa
[10:11] <tjp> ja joo, alt+jotain lähtee käsistä kun jotain >> 9
[10:57] <Maakuth> muistan kyllä tyyppejä joilla oli bindattuna alt+alariville asti ikkunoiden vaihtoon napit
[11:25] <sivir> alt+a avaa viimeksi aktiivisen ja alt+ ikkunan suoraan vaihtoon o tai p asti
[11:26] <ansa> saiskohan tuon alt+a :n palaamaan edelliseen jos ei ollut lisää aktiivisia
[12:40] <pesasa> StockAntenna: alt-q on sama kuin alt-11, jos olisi näppäin, jossa lukee päällä "11".
[12:41] <StockAntenna> ai
[13:57] <Thaurwylth> Ei kai kirjaimilla pääse kuin ikkunaan 19 asti?
[13:59] <pesasa> Ei taida
[13:59] <pesasa> Nyt en voi kokeilla, kun ei ole kuin 16 ikkunaa.
[14:01] <Tomin> oon varmaan aika noob on parhaimmillaan on tainnu olla 8 tai ehkä jopa 9 ikkunaa
[14:01] <puhuri> joo, Alt-P on sama kuin pageup, joten 19 on maksimi
[14:02] <puhuri> mutta Alt-a:lla pystyy käymään kaikki aktiiviset läpi eikä tartte /win 54:ää
[14:05] <StockAntenna> musta toi alt-a ottaa mitä sattuu
[14:05] <StockAntenna> ei kiva
[14:05] <StockAntenna> ysistä ylöspäin yleensä menen alt-nuoli oikealle
[14:06] <sivir> alt+a ottaa jos siellä on puhuttu sellaset ensin
[14:06] <sivir> sitten niiden jälkeen ottaa jos joku on quitannut joinannut yms
[14:06] <sivir> eli perusthemellä mitenhän ton kuvailisi, eka ne valkoiset numerot ja sitten vaalean siniset
[14:07] <sivir> nopea siihen jos on keskustelu jossain isonumeroisessa ikkunassa auki
[14:07] <sivir> mutta kanavia voi siirtää kätevästi myös esim /window move 3
[14:07] <sivir> ikkunoita*
[14:08] <sivir> alt+a:lla on vaan mukava nopea näpyttää kaikki ikkunat joissa on tapahtunut jotain läpi
[14:08] <StockAntenna> juu mulla on ollut usean vuoden tietty järjestys, tilttien jälkeen tolle sit kanavat oikeisiin ikkunoihin
[14:08] <sivir> ./save layout
[14:08] <sivir> ./save
[14:08] <sivir> pitäis tallentaa sit sen ulkoasun miten ne kanavat on järjestetty
[14:08] <sivir> eikun /reload
[14:08] <StockAntenna> ehkä mulle on tärkeämpi kontrolli siitä että menen tietylle kanavalle kuin että alt-a ampuu epämääräisessä järjestyksessä kanavia esiin
[14:09] <sivir> kukin tykkää tavallaan :p
[14:11] <puhuri> mulla on paljon kanavia, mihin osallistun hyvin satunnaisesti mutta seuraan kursiivisesti niin ne menee hyvin alt-a:lla mutta aktiivisimmat on pienillä numeroilla (esim. tämä on 6)
[14:12] <sivir> about samoin teen itsekin
[14:31] <StockAntenna> paljon näitä ubuntu-kanavia lie freenodessa?
[15:27] <Mikaela> /msg alis list ubuntu
[15:50] <Thaurwylth> Niijja eikös jonkin Ubuntu-projektin tai -foorumin ihan WWW-sivuilla ole lueteltu kanavat?
[15:51] <Thaurwylth> Tai no okei, siellä on kai lueteltu vain viralliset kanavat ja viralliset kieliyhteisöjen kanavat.
[15:51] <Thaurwylth> Onko muuten jokin erityinen merkitys sillä, että Freenodessa on olemassa ##kanavia, mikä on vähän ninkus epävirallisuuden tunnus?
[15:54] <Max^> eiks täs verkos ollu joku tyhmä et pitää täyttää joku lomake jos haluaa #kanavan
[16:01] <Thaurwylth> Asia OK.
[16:03] <Mikaela> Thaurwylth: freenode vaatii, että edustat projektia tai jotakin ollaksesi #kanava ja jos on vain jokin asia tai et edusta projektia joudut rekisteröimään ##kanavan. ei ole mitään lomaketta täytettäväksi (ellet halunnut affiliated-cloakia muutama vuosi sitten)
[16:03] <Mikaela> virallinen höpöhöpö: https://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelnaming
[16:04] <Mikaela> tai siis ei kai höpöhöpö vaan jokin...
[16:05] <Max^> tuoki varmaan joku uus juttu ku kyll ainaki pari vuotta sitte pystyi rekisteröimään tavallisen # kanavan
[16:06] <Max^> tarvinnu ku lähettää bottiin joku komento
[16:06] <Mikaela> "/msg chanserv register #kanava" kunhan olet opattuna kanavalla, se vain antaa sinulle varoituksen, että kai täytät tuon linkin vaatimukset ja jos et, poista kanavan rekisteröini komennolla /msg chanserv drop #kanava
[16:08] <Thaurwylth> Tarkkaillaanko sitä sitten myöhemmin jälkikäteen?
[16:10] <Mikaela> ei, koska siihen ei ole resursseja
[16:11] <Thaurwylth> Mutta säännöt pittää olla, eihän sitä muuten tulis mistään mittään...
[16:11] <Echramath> Herrasmiessopimus
[16:17] <puhuri> Kai se on sitä varten, että on selkeät säännöt, jos joku rekisteröi jonkun kanavan ennen "virallisista" projektin edustajaa niin voi sitten siirtää suoraan
[16:18] <Mikaela> kyllä, sähköpostia [email protected] tai jokin ja sitten verkkohärpäkkeellä kunhan group management system tulee käyttöön
[18:41] <Kehet> näköjään cloudflare ei päästä läpi muita portteja kuin 80 ja 443 servulle
[18:41] <Kehet> kaipa tämäkin on jonkin sortin tietoturvaominaisuus että joutuu muihin käyttämään jotain alidomainia
[18:41] <Kehet> en kyllä silti taida roottia sallia passuttomana sshsta ..
[18:43] <ansa> ei kai sillä tietoturvan kanssa oo mitään tekemistä että cloudflare on vain http/https-proxy
[18:49] <Kehet> käyttäisin ironiamerkkiä, mutten ole hommannut siihen lisenssiä
[19:43] <gildean> ansa: mutta toisaalta mitä väliä sillä on, missä portissa ne palvelimet kuuntelee sen proxyn takana
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.747195
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"Kehet",
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"elias_a",
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-unity
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[09:39] <tsdgeos> Mirv: ping
[09:40] <tsdgeos> Mirv: unping
[09:42] <Mirv> hmm
[09:43] <tsdgeos> was going to ask about a patch in qtdeclarative, but it's clear i cna look up the patches myself without asking you
[09:43] <tsdgeos> sorry _)
[09:47] <Mirv> :)
[10:32] <doubleDee> hi all, i am running gedit on mir but i see two mouse pointers
[10:33] <doubleDee> a big one and a little one
[10:33] <doubleDee> gedit on unity8
[10:34] <doubleDee> interesting, closing gedit doesn't help/... i'm left with 2 mouse pointers
[10:37] <tsdgeos> mardy: ping
[10:37] <mardy> tsdgeos: pong
[10:38] <tsdgeos> mardy: your "Don-t-change-the-currentItem-after-a-viewport-resize" breaks some other parts of listview :/
[10:38] <tsdgeos> mardy: this code http://paste.ubuntu.com/13215032/
[10:39] <tsdgeos> with your patch after removing item 0 we end up in item 1
[10:39] <tsdgeos> without your patch we end up in item 0 as we should
[10:41] <tsdgeos> do you have time to investigate?
[10:42] <mardy> tsdgeos: yep, I'll have a look; do you have a bug filed for that?
[10:44] <tsdgeos> it's basically https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scopes-shell/+bug/1508260
[10:47] <mardy> tsdgeos: interestingly, it doesn't happen if the animation is removed
[10:47] <tsdgeos> mardy: ok cool, want me to open a bug in the qt bug tracker too since it's present in 5.6 that's going to be released "soon-ish"? maybe they want a revert instead the new feature
[10:47] <tsdgeos> mardy: yep, i know
[10:48] <mardy> tsdgeos: I'd appreciate if you opened a bug on the Qt bug tracker *without* asking for a revert, as that bug was kind of hard to work around
[10:49] <mardy> tsdgeos: while fixing that bug I was thinking of touching other parts that were related to animations, but IIRC aalpert told me it was better to touch as little as possible, so I left them out
[10:49] <mardy> tsdgeos: it may be that they would fix this issue
[10:50] <tsdgeos> mardy: i'll create a unit test and post it to the qt bug report
[10:50] <mardy> tsdgeos: excellent, that will help a lot
[11:29] <tsdgeos> mardy: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-49330
[11:29] <tsdgeos> mardy: want me to assign it to you?
[12:21] <mardy> tsdgeos: yes please
[12:22] <tsdgeos> don
[12:22] <tsdgeos> e
[13:38] <mardy> tsdgeos: OK, I think I got a possible fix; now I need to clean everything up, update, and test your unit test (but the manual one you gave me before works)
[13:38] <tsdgeos> nice :)
[16:38] <mardy> tsdgeos: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/140510/
[16:38] <tsdgeos> nice :)
[18:35] <popey> anyone else seeing random freezes in unity8-dash? ?
[18:35] <popey> on rc proposed krillin
[18:36] <popey> if i swipe away to another app and come back it refreshes
[18:36] <popey> but frequently get a locked up dash with icons half loaded
[19:41] <greyback_> popey: yes, known issue, fix passed QA, should land soon
[20:18] <popey> greyback_, yay!
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[10:15] <rmg51> Morning
[13:17] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[22:52] <nelson_> hi i have a trouble with my ubuntu
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[00:36] <pleia2> PaulW2U: thanks for the review
[00:36] <pleia2> publishing
[00:50] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 441 for the week November 2 - 8, 2015 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue441
[00:54] <Unit193> Just recently checked it again today.
[00:55] <pleia2> thanks
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-gr
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[03:37] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2803-1: Linux kernel vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2803-1/> || USN-2802-1: Linux kernel vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2802-1/> || USN-2801-1: Linux kernel vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2801-1/> || USN-2800-1: Linux kernel vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2800-1/>
[04:17] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2806-1: Linux kernel (Vivid HWE) vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2806-1/> || USN-2805-1: Linux kernel (Utopic HWE) vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2805-1/> || USN-2804-1: Linux kernel (Trusty HWE) vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2804-1/>
[18:38] <alexpag> kalispera mipos kapoios xerei gia ubuntu mate 15.10 ekana egatastasi apo tin welcome screen tou virtualbox alla den to brisko pou exei egatastathei
[18:39] <alexpag> den mporo na bro pou egatastathike to virtualbox gia na to trexo
[18:41] <alexpag> kanonika den eprepe na emfanizetai sta bohthimata?
[18:47] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2808-1: wpa_supplicant and hostapd vulnerabilities <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2808-1/>
[19:27] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2807-1: Linux kernel (Wily HWE) vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2807-1/>
[20:23] <Tassos> ρε παλικάρια
[20:23] <Tassos> Σε Xubuntu πόσο δύσκολο είναι να κάνει κάποιος ένα κοινόχρηστο φάκελο, τον οποίο να βλέπουν όλοι οι χρήστες του τοπικού δικτύου ;
[21:37] <Tassos> δε τα κατάφερα και με το samba
[21:37] <Tassos> να μοιραστώ ένα φάκελο
[21:37] <Tassos> και βασικά το samba πρέπει να το κάνω εγκατάσταση σε όλα τα μηχανήματα ;
[21:42] <ee2455> Τί λειτουργικό έχουν τα υπόλοιπα μηχανήματα του LAN;
[21:44] <Black_Horseman> hola
[21:59] <Tassos> ee2455: όλα με Xubuntu είναι
[21:59] <Tassos> έχω μηχανήματα με Xubuntu
[21:59] <Tassos> και θέλω να έχω ένα κοινόχρηστο φάκελο σε όλα αυτά..
[21:59] <Tassos> να έχουν έναν φάκελο που να τον βλέπουν όλοι
[22:00] <Tassos> πρέπει να στήσω samba ; αν ναι.. και στους δύο ;
[22:00] <ee2455> OK, τότε δε χρειάζεσαι samba (αν και μπορεί να γίνει και με αυτό). Η πιο λογική λύση είναι NFS.
[22:01] <Tassos> NFS τι είναι; και γιατί είναι ποιο λογικό ή εύκολο ;
[22:02] <ee2455> Το NFS είναι η τυπική λύση για file shares σε Linux περιβάλλον.
[22:03] <ee2455> Ας πούμε ότι είναι το αντίστοιχο του samba που χρησιμοποιούν τα Windows.
[22:03] <Tassos> α.. και τόσο καιρό δε το ήξερα.. :/ μάλιστα.. εγώ ήξερα πως με το samba τα κάνεις όλα κιολας..
[22:03] <Tassos> ωραία
[22:04] <Tassos> είναι πιο εύκολο κόλας; Μπορείς να με βοηθήσεις ;
[22:04] <ee2455> Το samba έχει νόημα κυρίως σε Windows περιβάλλον.
[22:04] <Tassos> α μάλιστα οκ σε ευχαριστώ
[22:05] <ee2455> Για το NFS τώρα: Στους clients (τα PCs με Xubuntu) εγκαθιστάς nfs-common. Στον server εγκαθιστάς nfs-common και nfs-kernel-server.
[22:06] <ee2455> Επιβεβαίωσε τα package names γιατί δεν είμαι σίγουρος ότι ισχύουν για Ubuntu.
[22:08] <Tassos> ναι οκ
[22:14] <Tassos> ευχαριστώ πάντως
[22:14] <Tassos> καληνύχτα πρέπει να βγω
[22:15] <ee2455> OK, καληνύχτα.
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2015-11-10-#ubuntu-community-team
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[00:22] <popey> marcoceppi_, i need to steal your playlist :)
[00:22] <popey> good coding music
[03:02] <marcoceppi_> popey: ping lazypower to get a copy. It's his mix
[07:56] <dholbach> good morning
[07:57] <dpm> morning dholbach
[07:59] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:59] <dholbach> how are things in Stuttgart?
[08:06] <dpm> good good, slowly waking up :)
[08:09] <dholbach> :)
[08:12] <dholbach> dpm, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/gadget-snaps/
[08:12] <dholbach> images are loading
[08:12] <dholbach> not sure what changed it, but it's working now
[08:12] <dholbach> I'll add a bit more text to the top
[08:13] <dpm> dholbach, ah, cool!
[08:14] <dpm> dholbach, I can only see generic images, though. Is that intended?
[08:14] <dholbach> so that's at least one "new" landing working
[08:14] <dholbach> dpm, I can see 10 images
[08:14] <dholbach> generic-i386 and generic-amd64 are the ones I'd call generic
[08:15] <dholbach> if you're commenting on the icons: the page would use images, if they were uploaded to the store, but it looks like nobody did
[08:16] <dpm> dholbach, here's what I see: http://i.imgur.com/uDXTMUU.png
[08:16] <dholbach> right, I'm seeing the same
[08:16] <dpm> yeah, that's what I meant, no specific images are shown, only the generic icon
[08:16] <dholbach> yes
[08:17] <dholbach> so what I said above: if somebody uploads a gadget snap without a specified icon, we show one of those (generic) snappy icons
[08:18] <dholbach> I could try to find out who maintains the snaps and see if they'd be willing to upload an image to go with it
[08:18] <dpm> yeah, I think that'd be good. Otherwise we might want to consider not showing the icon
[08:19] <dholbach> I think we tried that in the beginning and the page looked quite dull
[08:19] <dholbach> ok, I'll figure something out
[08:20] <dpm> thanks dholbach
[08:21] <dpm> dholbach, another question: is there a more human-readable field that we could use as a title for each gadget? I.e. on "panda.gumstix" to show "Panda Board" instead?
[08:23] <dholbach> unfortunately not :-/
[08:23] <dholbach> there's nothing coming from the store api that is more readable
[08:28] <dpm> ok, let me ask beuno when he's up later on, perhaps there is a field they can make visible to the API
[08:33] <dholbach> dpm, this is wha uappexplorer does: https://uappexplorer.com/app/panda.gumstix
[08:34] <dholbach> basically a .split('.')[0]
[08:34] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, we could do that plus a capitalization of the first letter
[08:35] <dpm> not sure where they get the icon, though
[08:35] <dholbach> I found a bug with the icons - I'm just fixing it right now
[08:35] <dholbach> we imported everything from the store, but we were looking at screenshort_url instead of icon_url :)
[08:35] <dholbach> it's an easy fix
[08:36] <dholbach> dpm, would this look OK to you: Beagleblack, Pi2, Panda, Pepper, Overo, Duovero, Odroidc, Beagle (leaving out generic-*)
[08:37] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, I think until we have a field we can use directly (if we can have it), that would be a good workaround to make the names more readable
[08:37] <dholbach> ok
[08:49] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[08:49] <davidcalle> Hey dholbach o/
[08:50] <dholbach> davidcalle, showing the images on the gadget snap list is working
[08:50] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'm just fixing a few small mistakes :)
[08:55] <davidcalle> dholbach, I know, it was the same fix as the css for menus one. But as a side effect, not sure if you have noticed, but now, breadcrumbs have a large bottom padding
[08:55] <davidcalle> (fix was to update static files on prod)
[08:55] <dholbach> no, I didn't look at that one yet :-/
[08:57] <davidcalle> dholbach, I just wanted to point it out, but if you reaction was not "ugh, it looks awful" when looking at any page on the site, I would call it a non-issue for now :)
[09:05] <dholbach> davidcalle, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/show-gadgetsnap-images/+merge/277089
[09:06] <dholbach> davidcalle, maybe you can help me with the size of the images - it doesn't quite match up with the placeholder images we used
[09:06] <davidcalle> dholbach, do you know if snaps icons have a minimum size?
[09:06] <dholbach> let me check
[09:07] <dholbach> davidcalle, "A 256x256 icon that will be used when listing your app. If not provided, the value from the icon field from the click package manifest will be used."
[09:08] <davidcalle> dholbach, what I meant earlier, btw, was that prod wasn't even showing fallback images (the ended up on a 404), and that it was fixed
[09:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, yes, I closed https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1505539
[09:09] <davidcalle> dholbach, oops, forgot :)
[09:10] <dholbach> davidcalle, looking at https://trello.com/c/mFtSDK7G/60-add-a-device-list-2 I wonder if we need a "short list of devices"
[09:10] <dholbach> because if we want it to on the front page, it shouldn't be this big table I'd say
[09:10] <dholbach> dpm, ^ what do you think?
[09:11] * dpm reads backlog
[09:11] <dholbach> just the last 2-3 lines
[09:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, we can probably go smaller, indeed :) The initial idea was a dedicated page, hence the current size
[09:11] <dholbach> davidcalle, maybe we can offer both
[09:12] <dpm> I think it might be good to have a shortlist and then a search option to show all perhaps
[09:13] <dholbach> search option as in "directly query the api"?
[09:13] <dpm> I was going to say like http://partners.ubuntu.com/find-a-partner - but then I see that we're showing _all_ partners on that page already :)
[09:14] <davidcalle> dholbach, I can envision a future where we list apps "using some API" on API and tutorials pages and a smaller format would work for it as well. I'd be tempted to ditch the large version for now, it's just a template change :)
[09:14] <davidcalle> dpm, shortlist as in "smaller icon and box size" we are not on queries yet
[09:14] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'll take a quick look at having one template for a small list and this big one
[09:15] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've started on it actually, since I'm fixing fallback icons
[09:15] <dholbach> ok
[09:15] <dholbach> I'll leave it in your capable hands then :)
[09:15] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[09:15] * davidcalle hugs dholbach back
[09:16] <dpm> no, I wasn't suggesting to do queries yet, I think for now we're fine in doing a regular sync and then be able to handle the data the way we want it on the site (e.g. showing a shortlist or a full list)
[09:18] <davidcalle> dpm, ah, right. eg. showing the n latest by default?
[09:18] <dpm> davidcalle, yeah, or marking a few as "featured" in the admin, and showing those as the shortlist
[09:19] <davidcalle> dpm, right, we don't have the admin for it yet, I'll look into it
[09:19] <davidcalle> dholbach, woah, it looks huge indeed :)
[09:20] <dpm> davidcalle, no worries, just an idea prompted by dholbach's shortlist suggestion
[09:20] <dpm> davidcalle, what's the plan with fixing the breadcrumbs bottom margin?
[09:20] <davidcalle> dpm, asking webteam :)
[09:22] <dpm> davidcalle, ok, thanks is this something you could look into today? I'm a bit worried about the production site's look atm
[09:22] <davidcalle> dpm, on the other hand, I don't think it's awful, it actually highlights breadcrumbs, I'll ask them in a short moment
[09:22] <dpm> hm, I'm not sure I agree on this one
[09:26] <davidcalle> dholbach, hmm, I'm tempted to ditch descriptions
[09:28] <davidcalle> Or not, nvm.
[09:36] <davidcalle> dholbach, I would suggest : one or two lines of boards (with a slightly smaller form factor than what we currently have), then a link to a page listing all boards, would that work for you?
[09:36] <davidcalle> dpm ^
[09:38] <dholbach> davidcalle, so for the smaller list, this would be just like a small table listing what we have?
[09:40] <davidcalle> dholbach, a small table would work, yes
[09:40] <dholbach> yes, that sounds good
[09:40] * davidcalle will send screenshots in a short moment, to make sure we are on the same page :)
[09:51] <dholbach> cool
[09:51] <dholbach> I just added a bit of text to the top of the page
[09:53] <dpm> davidcalle, dholbach, something like http://imgur.com/FNaSwJD ?
[09:54] <dholbach> dpm, is the [x] a scaled-down version of the image?
[09:55] <dpm> dholbach, [x] is generally the way images are shown as placeholders in web mockups
[09:55] <dpm> it just indicates there is an image there
[09:55] <dholbach> dpm, which image would it be in this case?
[09:56] <dpm> I think we could go with the same approach as now: icon as available from the store, if no icon, generic snappy grey con
[09:56] <dholbach> ok, that's what I thought, so a scaled-down version of what we show now
[09:56] <dholbach> davidcalle, was your approach going to be the same thing as dpm's? ^ :)
[09:57] <dpm> exactly, so a scaled-down version on the front page and full on the gadgets page
[09:57] <dpm> oh, I was just trying to see if we're on the same page, mine is the same proposal as davidcalle's, if I understood it correctly
[09:57] <davidcalle> dholbach, dpm, pretty much, yeah
[09:58] <dholbach> awesome :-D
[09:59] * dpm hugs dholbach and davidcalle
[10:00] <dholbach> sorry for moving a new card to our current sprint
[10:00] <dholbach> :-)
[10:00] <dholbach> but this morning I noticed that we were almost there with the gadget snap list....... :)
[10:47] <dpm> it's all good news in any case :)
[11:13] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach: http://imgur.com/LZvpCW7 , thoughts?
[11:14] <dholbach> that's brilliant!
[11:19] <davidcalle> dholbach, if dpm agrees, let's roll with it for v1, next step would be to actually query the API at run time (at least for the shortlist) with the parameters we want (eg snap store & sort by rating or download count)
[11:20] <dholbach> davidcalle, hum... you mean we query the store api for every view of the page? or what does "run time" mean in this context?
[11:20] <davidcalle> dholbach, yeah, do you think it's asking too much to the store API?
[11:20] <dpm> davidcalle, looks great to me. I have some comments, but are minor things regarding the format that we can look at in detail before hitting publish.
[11:21] <dholbach> davidcalle, we could ask beuno, but I'd say that it's too much
[11:21] <davidcalle> dholbach, it's to avoid loading thousands of items in the db during the night, I mean, we already have this db, it's the store :)
[11:22] <dholbach> wasn't that the reason why we used the cronjob?
[11:24] <dholbach> and we're not loading too many items from the db
[11:26] <davidcalle> dholbach, for now, but I'm thinking about other use cases, like showcasing phone apps. popey, how many time does your click store parsing take?
[11:26] <davidcalle> dholbach, in any case, that's a discussion for later :)
[11:26] <popey> not too long
[11:26] <popey> what do you need?
[11:26] <dholbach> ok cool
[11:27] <davidcalle> popey, metadata for all apps
[11:27] <dholbach> let's ask beuno - I just tried to avoid hammering other sites databases wherever I could
[11:28] <davidcalle> dholbach, and that's an excellent point, I don't deny it
[11:28] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[11:29] <dholbach> great work on the gadget snaps list
[11:29] <dholbach> thanks a lot!
[11:29] <davidcalle> popey, let's say we want to showcase apps on d.u.c, we are wondering if we should copy the full store content locally at night and use this, or simply query the myapps API when the page loads
[11:29] <davidcalle> popey, anyway as I said, that's a discussion for later that should involve beuno, thanks :)
[11:30] <popey> okay
[11:34] <davidcalle> dholbach, can you change the branch owner so I can push to it?
[11:34] <dholbach> sure
[11:36] <dholbach> davidcalle, https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/show-gadgetsnap-images
[11:37] <dholbach> davidcalle, another option instead of a cronjob would be a context_processor where we either check time_since_last_lookup or number_or_requests_since_last_lookup
[11:38] <davidcalle> dholbach, that's a nice idea
[11:38] <davidcalle> a very nice one
[11:38] <dholbach> we would need to save it somewhere in the db though
[11:43] <dpm> dholbach, davidcalle, popey, balloons, is any of you up for the Q&A today?
[11:43] <popey> I didn't do it last week due to the Q&A clashing with a session I think. Up for it this week.
[11:43] <dpm> great
[11:43] <dholbach> I'd be up as well
[11:43] <popey> TEAM EURO!
[11:44] <popey> s/EURO/HIPPIE/
[11:44] <dholbach> popey, you don't have the euro!
[11:44] <popey> Yeah, I let the kids play with that funny money :)
[11:44] <dpm> :-)
[11:47] <davidcalle> dholbach, pushed
[11:47] <dholbach> davidcalle, another problem could be that whoever loads the page when the content needs to be updated might have to wait... or encounter a database which is down on the other end - that shouldn't happen very often, but should be something we look into as well
[11:47] <davidcalle> dholbach, true
[11:48] <davidcalle> dpm, I won't be able to do the Q&A, please share your comments about the screenshot, I'll address them right after picking up lunch (or explain why you are wrong :p) :)
[11:49] <dholbach> haha
[11:49] <popey> :)
[11:49] <dholbach> davidcalle, "|divisibleby:1"?
[11:50] <dpm> nice try davidcalle :)
[11:51] <davidcalle> dholbach, always a useful check! *cough*, I'm keeping that in case I need to tweak the layout and not do twelve-col, will ditch it if it's indeed twelve-col :)
[11:51] <dholbach> ok ok
[11:53] <davidcalle> dholbach, that's "super defensive" programming: we never check if integers are divisible by 1! :p
[11:53] <dholbach> yes, you never know
[12:41] <dholbach> davidcalle, for me it looks like this: https://imgur.com/SpLz6aS
[12:41] <dholbach> popey, shall we chat about snapcraft before we start the Q&A?
[12:42] <popey> ya
[12:42] <dholbach> awesome
[12:44] <davidcalle> dholbach, that's normal, now you need to use it into a div class="row"
[12:44] <dholbach> ahhhh ok, thanks
[12:44] <dholbach> in that case it's good to go for me :)
[12:44] <davidcalle> dholbach, that's the only way to make it feel part of the rest of the page, the padding of other solutions is just too much :)
[12:45] <davidcalle> dholbach, yay, now waiting for dpm comments
[12:45] <dholbach> <3
[12:48] <dholbach> relocating to the office, bbiab
[12:57] <dpm> davidcalle, is this on a draft page I can look at, atm?
[12:58] <davidcalle> dpm, in branch only
[12:58] <davidcalle> dpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/show-gadgetsnap-images/+merge/277089
[12:58] <davidcalle> dpm, do you want me to do a draft page with it, I can reproduce it manually
[12:59] <dpm> davidcalle, not if it's just extra work for you, I can work with the screenshot, no worries
[12:59] <davidcalle> dpm, ok
[13:00] <dpm> davidcalle, how much of the content is code and how much CMS?
[13:00] <dpm> i.e. what can I change when this is on a live page?
[13:01] <davidcalle> dpm, the two lists of boxes are code, that's it
[13:01] <dpm> ok, cool
[13:04] <dpm> davidcalle, and how is the shortlist generated?
[13:05] <davidcalle> dpm, only constraint is that they only work very well in twelve-col divs, in other sized divs, they will still work, but may have small padding issues.
[13:05] <davidcalle> dpm, beginning of the big list, which is based on updated_date of snaps
[13:15] <dpm> davidcalle, http://pad.ubuntu.com/gadget-page-feedback let me know what you think, or let me know why I'm wrong ;)
[13:28] <davidcalle> dpm, my bad I haven't noticed this comment was about the shortlist
[13:28] <dpm> davidcalle, np, I had also missed the fact that it's not trivial to choose which link
[13:28] <davidcalle> dpm, also, I don't want to hardcode a page url in the template
[13:29] <davidcalle> dpm, that's why I've kept things like the "read more" out of the code
[13:29] <dpm> davidcalle, no, I'm not a friend of hardcoding, either.
[13:30] <dpm> so it seems the easiest thing might be to go with no link
[13:30] <dpm> however, how do you actually go about inserting the shortlist on the main page? Wouldn't you need a full template?
[13:33] <davidcalle> dpm, simply add the "Snpp Shortlist - Gadgets" plugin in a row div
[13:33] <davidcalle> $Snap
[13:35] <dpm> ah, so one is a plugin and the other is a template, or are both plugins?
[13:40] <davidcalle> dpm, template is just a generic django term for any html used to render data. They are both plugins, and should both be used in twelve-col divs, in text or raw html plugins. This gives more flexibility than using them as standalone plugins (even if it's still possbile, I haven't found how to disable it).
[13:41] <dpm> ok, gotcha (I think)
[13:58] <dholbach> davidcalle, bad news: we're going to need another migration for the store_data thing
[13:58] <dholbach> we're supposed to use .title
[14:14] <dholbach> davidcalle, pushed the necessary changes
[14:14] <dholbach> dpm, ^ the MP uses .title
[14:15] <davidcalle> dholbach, sorry, I was reading the API doc, can you add last_updated as well?
[14:15] <dpm> great, thanks dholbach. I guess we'll still need the name massaging given the status of the titles uploaders write
[14:16] <dholbach> dpm, that's what style_snap_name() in https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/show-gadgetsnap-images/+merge/277089 does - let me know if there's anything else missing
[14:16] <dholbach> davidcalle, last_updated for each of the entries?
[14:16] <davidcalle> dholbach, yes and "website"
[14:17] <dholbach> davidcalle, we have last_updated
[14:18] <dholbach> I'll add the website field
[14:19] <davidcalle> dholbach, current last updated is the duc db time update, we should have the actual date the snap was updated in the store
[14:19] <dpm> dholbach, lgtm for the parts I can understand :)
[14:19] <dholbach> davidcalle, where do we get website from? is it also a field in the api?
[14:21] <davidcalle> dholbach, yes, simply called "website"
[14:24] <davidcalle> dholbach, you'll have to teach me how to create migrations :)
[14:26] <dholbach> davidcalle, in the api?
[14:27] <dholbach> I can't seem to find it
[14:31] <dholbach> popey, I'll set up the Q&A
[14:31] <popey> ok. I'm just grabbing a late lunch
[14:31] <dholbach> davidcalle, basically it's just:
[14:31] <popey> be back in 10-15
[14:31] <dholbach> davidcalle, ./env/bin/python manage.py schemamigration store_data add_title_field --auto
[14:31] <dholbach> and then migrate and bzr add <migrations-file>
[14:33] <dholbach> mhall119, dpm: can you confirm that the Q&A is in 30m?
[14:33] <dholbach> davidcalle, I guess I won't have time to do the website thing today
[14:33] <dpm> dholbach, I think it should be at the same time as usual, i.e. in 1h30
[14:33] <davidcalle> dholbach, no worries :)
[14:33] <dholbach> dpm, in the calendar it's at 30m
[14:34] <dholbach> in the team calendar I mean
[14:34] <dholbach> dpm, if we do it in 1h30m, I can't make it to the donations call with clan
[14:35] <dholbach> popey, ^
[14:47] <dholbach> ok.... I'll announce it for in 1h15m then
[14:48] <dholbach> davidcalle, in that case, I can add the website field... if you tell me where to get the information from
[14:48] <popey> okay
[14:48] <popey> I am easy
[14:49] <davidcalle> dholbach, simply with the rest of the data, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppStore/Interfaces/ClickPackageIndex#line-280
[14:49] <dholbach> davidcalle, KeyError: 'website'
[14:49] <davidcalle> dholbach, you'll probably want to do a entry.get('website', None) instead of entry['website'], though, it doesn't seem to be required when adding a snap
[14:49] <dholbach> popey, I got the event set up and ubuntuonair.com updated
[14:49] <dholbach> ok
[14:49] <popey> dholbach, so it's in 1 hour 10mins right?
[14:49] <dholbach> yep
[14:49] * popey gets his hair ready
[14:49] <popey> just enough time
[14:52] <dholbach> davidcalle, field added
[14:52] <davidcalle> dholbach, ty :)
[14:56] <mhall119> fyi, I've changed the timezone on the calendar entry to be UTC, so it will always be at 1600 UTC
[14:57] <dholbach> hum
[14:57] <dholbach> ah, you just changed it, ok - thanks! :)
[15:05] <popey> mhall119, i managed to break my apps scanning script a bit, will update you and the sheet when it's fixed
[15:09] <mhall119> popey: ok
[15:10] <popey> mhall119, i need a better way to identify "does this click package contain executables"
[15:10] <popey> previously I just looked for .so files, but that's not fair, some are just a single binary executable I imagine with no .so files
[15:10] <popey> but it's roughly accurate
[15:10] <popey> I expect those which have binaries almost all have a .so in somewhere
[15:10] <popey> it's all a big brute force kludge :)
[15:11] <mhall119> popey: by "contain executables" do you mean binaries compiled from C++?
[15:12] <popey> or go.. or python ;)
[15:12] <popey> I don't discriminate on language perversion.
[15:12] <mhall119> but not QML or HTML5
[15:12] <mhall119> I mean, you could check file permissions for +x
[15:12] <popey> no, the measure is "does this click package contain any architecture specific components"
[15:12] <popey> nope
[15:12] <popey> tried that :)
[15:12] <dholbach> popey, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13216403/ is from click-reviewers-tools
[15:12] <mhall119> oh, well python isn't arch specific
[15:13] <popey> it is
[15:13] <dholbach> popey, and there are a bunch of other checks in the code as well
[15:13] <popey> when you bundle the python binary in your click like a good person
[15:13] <mhall119> oh right, bundling
[15:13] <popey> :)
[15:13] <popey> actually looking at the filename is a good clue :D
[15:13] <popey> _armhf _multi etc
[15:13] <popey> duh :)
[15:13] <mhall119> I suppose you could run `file` on everything in the package looking for something with ELF headers
[15:13] <popey> thanks dholbach
[15:13] <popey> i did that :)
[15:13] <dholbach> ok
[15:13] <dholbach> cool
[15:13] <popey> well, I do that too
[15:14] <popey> takes a lot longer
[15:14] <popey> i think it's good enough right now to look for .so files
[15:14] <popey> as that's consistent with the previous runs
[15:14] <popey> I now also identify binaries like i386, amd64 and armhf, and also if it's linked against SDL
[15:16] <mhall119> "good enough" is goog enough, there's always going to be packages that don't fall neatly into just one category anyway
[15:18] <popey> ya
[15:27] <dholbach> popey, I guess we'll start the propaganda machinery now? :)
[15:29] <popey> \o/
[15:29] * popey puts his propaganda trousers on
[15:29] * balloons readies his canon
[15:29] <dholbach> :)
[15:29] * mhall119 plays the propaganda slide-whistle
[15:30] <popey> hah
[15:30] <dholbach> nice, looks like we're working as a team here :-P
[15:30] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnQ2zOmb6Hg
[15:30] <popey> terrible 80's song that davmor2 would be proud of
[15:30] <popey> (by propaganda)
[15:31] <popey> The video is about as 80s as it's possible to get without knocking down a german wall.
[15:31] * balloons eyes AND ears are bleeding
[15:32] <popey> It's only popular in the UK because part of the song was used during the titles of a TV programme :)
[15:32] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KumaE_Qfj8
[15:32] * popey goes back to other things
[15:32] * dholbach prepares for the worst
[15:33] <dholbach> davmor2 really likes that song? :)
[15:33] <popey> he loves all 80s songs
[15:33] <popey> he's stuck in a time vortex or something
[15:46] <dholbach> popey, shall we start the hangout now, so we can chat about snapcraft still?
[15:46] <dholbach> davidcalle, mhall119: mail to Daniel sent - I CCed you because I thought you'd be interested
[15:46] <popey> OKAY!
[15:46] <popey> dholbach, just grabbing coffee, 2 min
[15:47] <davidcalle> dholbach, reading it, thanks a lot
[15:47] <dholbach> cool cool
[15:50] <popey> dholbach, link?
[15:51] <dholbach> popey, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcwua5jDE8hJHoWq4SKb0Pa6e7S3fHU0dA9s_TT_6NQVCMqVQ
[16:28] <balloons> popey, I remember the issue with dropping letters now. It doesn't build via cmake
[16:44] * davidcalle -> xenial
[16:47] <balloons> I'm so proud of you guys all upgrading early in the cycle :-)
[16:58] <popey> balloons, oh bum.
[17:00] <balloons> I seem to remember trying to fix that at some point. Regardless, the jobs are all there now. I'll disable them again so it doesn't do needless tries over and over
[17:03] <dholbach> mhall119, davidcalle: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/django-cms/jcQEuJ3VQaM
[17:03] <dholbach> davidcalle, go go go!
[17:03] <dholbach> balloons, man, I'm on the LTS :-)
[17:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, yes!
[17:04] <popey> balloons, I'll take a look at converting to cmake
[17:07] <dholbach> all right my friends - see you all tomorrow!
[17:08] <davidcalle> dpm, you have probably missed when you were bombarded with questions, but it seems that http://i.imgur.com/TRHa5Zu.png is our best way forward for duc menus
[17:11] <dpm> davidcalle, sorry, I was in a call. I had seen the ping but hadn't looked at the page yet
[17:11] <davidcalle> dpm, no worries :)
[17:12] <dpm> will look at it in detail in a moment
[17:13] <davidcalle> dpm, ok, I'll probably be off as soon as the upgrade to xenial has finished, let's follow up by email if needed
[17:19] * davidcalle is on his way home, have a nice eod =)
[17:22] <dpm> ok!
[17:22] <dpm> (too late)
[18:40] <czajkowski> aloha
[18:48] <popey> yo
[18:48] <popey> hows tricks?
[18:48] <czajkowski> I am 142 conferences in for reviewing 2016 event
[18:48] <czajkowski> I may go insane!
[18:49] <mhall119> czajkowski: how many in Florida?
[18:49] <czajkowski> 1
[18:49] <mhall119> :/
[18:49] <czajkowski> just the one so far
[18:49] <mhall119> FOSSETCON?
[18:49] <czajkowski> and it's one that wasn't well attended from our speakers point
[18:49] <czajkowski> mhall119: http://www.orlandocodecamp.com/
[18:50] <mhall119> oh, didn't know about that one
[18:51] <czajkowski> looks like March is a very heavy confernece month
[18:51] <czajkowski> *conference
[18:51] <mhall119> oh, that's way up in Lake Mary, not even technically Orlando
[18:51] <czajkowski> lol
[18:52] <mhall119> no wonder it has poor attendance
[18:52] <czajkowski> mhall119: can play the random pick a city and I'll tell you if there is a confernece there
[18:52] <czajkowski> I even get to go to austin next year
[18:53] <czajkowski> just not sure how I'm gonna manage that one
[18:53] <czajkowski> land from honeymoon and take off to OSCON
[18:53] <popey> where you guys going on honeymoon to?
[18:54] <czajkowski> Orlando :D
[18:54] <czajkowski> DISNEYWOLRD!
[18:54] <czajkowski> :D
[18:54] <czajkowski> there's a confernece in Nebraska!
[18:56] <popey> wow
[18:56] <popey> awesome
[18:58] <czajkowski> popey: yes we're not counting down to wedding, counting down to 2 weeks at disney :D
[18:58] <czajkowski> popey: that was the easiest decision with himself, where would hyou like to go, disneyworld,, YES. Done. Booked.
[18:59] <popey> hah
[19:04] <mhall119> lol
[19:04] <mhall119> well we at least get you see you then
[19:06] <czajkowski> :D yes!
[19:06] <czajkowski> mhall119: you're gonna have to recommend stuff to do
[19:06] <czajkowski> fancy a daytona beach trip
[19:06] <czajkowski> Kennedy space center
[19:06] <czajkowski> etc
[19:06] <czajkowski> 24 weeks eeeep
[19:07] * mhall119 hasn't been to KSC in decades
[19:07] <mhall119> honestly, I lived in daytona beach for a year, was not impressed
[19:09] <czajkowski> I know but as we're there...
[19:23] <popey> I went to KSC 4 years ago when I first started at Canonical
[19:23] <popey> in fact it's exactly 4 years this week!
[19:24] <czajkowski> popey: congrats!
[19:25] <popey> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0j4Od3BgdGc/TxNL_7jj3OI/AAAAAAAAALM/7s8FScSjIyk/s1600/photo-703630.JPG
[19:25] <popey> sladen looking at a rocket, at KSC
[19:31] <willcooke> Is that from CPLAT?
[19:33] <czajkowski> willcooke: :o good evening!
[19:33] <willcooke> hello czajkowski
[19:33] <willcooke> how goes?
[19:33] <czajkowski> willcooke: good and busy which is you know, good :)
[19:33] <willcooke> and busy
[19:34] <czajkowski> yeah but it keeps me off irc which is good :) so evening is Ubuntu work and irc and a little work
[19:34] <czajkowski> have some USA calls trying to get out of an 11pm one :/
[19:34] <czajkowski> pesky timezones
[19:34] <willcooke> :(
[19:35] <czajkowski> on a good note it gives me ideas for my talk in January, dealing with cultural divide, and internal advocacy in a distribtued team/company
[19:35] <czajkowski> that is one thing Canonical does very well
[19:36] <czajkowski> from the start all are on irc and can be easily found
[19:37] <balloons> pleia2, for UWN, here's a text version of the track summaries: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Summaries/UOS1511
[23:03] <czajkowski> mhall119: another Florida one https://www.codeonthebeach.com/
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[06:42] <hbogner> o/
[07:15] <BotaniCar> Ja sam stavio zimske, temperatura kod mene je jutrom ~5C
[07:15] <BotaniCar> Jutro, junaci
[07:15] <BotaniCar> obrut: ping
[07:15] <BotaniCar> jelly: se vidimo danas ?
[07:28] <jelly> vileni, BotaniCar: da, samo reci kad: 17h? 18h?
[07:28] <vileni> ja ne stignem prije 18
[07:28] <BotaniCar> Ja mogu krenuti u ~16:15 (pokupim malog), samo Bogovi Prometa znaju kad sam ti blizu :)
[07:29] <BotaniCar> Mogu i okasnit' da stignem kad i vileni, da se ne presetavas 14x
[07:32] <jelly> mda, tad je najgora guzva
[07:39] <dodobas> mrzim bit bolestan
[08:04] <pkiller> Kako se kaže Subscribe na hrvatskom?
[08:05] <jelly> pretplati se? prijavi se? Kontekst?
[08:05] <obrut> BotaniCar: pong
[08:05] <obrut> BotaniCar: mislim da bi onaj acc trebao jos radit
[08:07] <pkiller> A da napišem na gumb RSS :)
[08:07] <jelly> da
[08:09] <pkiller> prijevod na hrvatski, naj netehničkiji jezik ikada
[08:10] <jelly> prijevod čega
[08:11] <hbogner> pkiller, kako ne, čigrasto velepamtilo, itd... :D
[08:11] <pkiller> hbogner: to to :)
[08:13] <pkiller> jelly: ma sitnice... Ghost Blog default tema ima par riječi koje trebam prevest da stranica izgleda "hrvatska"
[08:13] <Mmike> jelly: pitanjce
[08:13] <jelly> to nije pitanjce!
[08:13] <Mmike> jelly: kad te dugo nema na nekom znc klijentu, koliko naraste memory usage? i, znc to nikad ne snima na disk, jeld?
[08:13] * Mmike chuckles :)
[08:14] <jelly> Mmike: znc snima buffer u memoriju koliko znam
[08:14] <jelly> 14594 zncjelly 20 0 204m 178m 2132 S 0.0 47.5 270:05.18 znc
[08:15] <jelly> pkiller: onda je možda i "pratite nas"
[08:16] <jelly> odn. "prati nas" ili "prati me" ili "prati naš feed"
[08:16] <Mmike> 200njak megusha
[08:16] <Mmike> nc, nc, nc
[08:34] <vileni> Mmike: jesi mi nasao neki disk? :)
[08:52] <Mmike> vileni: imam ih jedno 7 :)
[08:52] <Mmike> vileni: al' nisam se sjetio uzet :(
[08:52] <Mmike> vileni: mozda stignem, kad se vidimo/te
[08:56] <vileni> Mmike: danas u 18
[09:00] <Mmike> da, bum vidio, moram do oca i tak, al' mislim da bi morti mogo stic popit 1/4 gemista i dat Luku Filipu BotaniCarovom
[09:01] <pkiller> jelly: A 1-POST COLLECTION
[09:01] <pkiller> 1 je varijabla...
[09:02] <pkiller> "Članaka u ovoj kategoriji: 1" ?
[09:13] <jelly> kontekst?
[09:13] * jelly ne zna što je "post collection"
[09:13] <jelly> daj screenshot di se to vidi barem
[09:14] <BotaniCar> obrut: ne radi, morao sam nazad na v4 , doduse, razlika izmedju inicijalnog setupa i sadasnjeg je sto sad u sucelju imam N Connectiona. To je valjda doslo s migracijom na IP telefoniju
[09:14] <BotaniCar> obrut: mozes baciti oko na upute koje si mi dao 9/9/2013 ? ;)
[09:19] <pkiller> jelly https://ghost-pkiller.c9users.io/tag/getting-started/
[09:19] <pkiller> kada klikneš Tag getting started se pojavi to
[09:21] <pkiller> Možda imam post izborni stres pa sve što počinje sa Član me iritira
[09:40] <dodobas> jucer sam opet napravio glupost ...
[09:41] <dodobas> isao upgredat ubuntu 14.04 na 16.04 (dev) ... na partneričinom laptoptu...
[09:41] <Mmike> dodobas: bravo :D
[09:41] <dodobas> misleh da ce '-d' povuci 15.10... a ne dev ... uglavnom
[09:41] <Mmike> dodobas: i, jel' radi sve? :D
[09:41] <Mmike> ak SilverSpaceu radi, pa valjda i bi i tebi trebalo! :D
[09:42] <dodobas> kad ti se zacrni ekran tijekom upgrade-a ... to nije dobro...
[09:42] <dodobas> onda se nije htjelo butat
[09:42] <dodobas> kernel panic...
[09:42] <dodobas> popravio sam takoda sam se chrootao i napravio upgrade/dist-upgrade
[09:43] <dodobas> i jos kasnije symlinkao /etc/mtab ... na /proc/../mounts
[09:43] <dodobas> jer se i zbog toga bunio...
[09:43] <dodobas> uglavnom popravio sam :)
[09:43] <dodobas> Mmike: da radi sve... :P
[09:44] <Mmike> :)
[09:44] <Mmike> sa inita na systemd sam tak... :) bravo :)
[09:44] <Mmike> hrabro! :D
[09:44] <Mmike> aj sad to na svom laptopu napravi :)
[09:45] <dodobas> Mmike: prvo bi morao instalirat utuntu ... a to se nece dogoditi... prije feodora ili debian sid ...
[09:46] <Mmike> tvrdoglavost
[09:46] <Mmike> nije vrlina
[09:46] <Mmike> uvijek :)
[09:46] <jelly> kaj fali utuntu
[09:46] <dodobas> Mmike: pa e... hebo ti takav systemd, kad za sve imaju compatibility skripte ...
[09:46] <dodobas> kak ne bi onda radilo
[09:46] <Mmike> velis, izdali su systemd :D
[09:46] <jelly> dodobas: otkad je compatibility losa stvar
[09:46] <Mmike> hrvojem: Completed: All 1864 tests were successful.
[09:46] <Mmike> plavi: Completed: All 1864 tests were successful.
[09:47] <Mmike> A-HA!
[09:47] <Mmike> samo je trebalo znat koje testove treba ignorirat :D
[09:47] <jelly> lol
[09:47] <dodobas> utuntu nista ne fali... samo nemam cekat release svake 2 godine
[09:47] <plavi> Mmike, super :p
[09:47] <dodobas> *nemrem
[09:47] <Mmike> nije mi doduse jasno zakaj ti testovi postoje, u poddirektorijima ima 101 disabled.txt file u kojima su disejblani testovi :)
[09:48] <Mmike> another few won't matter! :)
[09:48] <dodobas> until the do :)
[09:49] <dodobas> *they... mrzim bit bolestan
[09:50] <jelly> dodobas: zasto ne?
[09:51] * jelly upgradeao sa 12.04 na 14.04 ove godine, i samo zato sto je presao na noviji hardver
[09:51] <dodobas> jelly: zasto da ?
[09:51] <jelly> zato sto radi
[09:52] <dodobas> meni archlinux radi ...
[09:52] <dodobas> i imam sve najnovije pakete iz upstreama
[09:52] <jelly> meni ubuntu radi, i nije me briga je li najnovije ili ne
[09:52] <jelly> kljucno je da radi
[09:53] <dodobas> a da ... qgis je recimo na verziji 1.8 ... to se dogodilo prije 6 godina...
[09:53] <dodobas> to nije prihvatljivo
[09:53] <dodobas> 16.04 ce imati 2.8 ... sto je opet prastaro, jer jer 2.12 vain
[09:53] <dodobas> *vani
[09:53] <jelly> dakle tebi ne radi, i to je ok
[09:55] <jelly> imas drukcije zahtjeve i koristis softver za kojeg tu distru boli djon
[09:56] <dodobas> i zato ga necu stavljati na laptop ...
[09:57] <jelly> onda nije istina da mu nis ne fali :-)
[09:58] <dodobas> pa ne fali, samo onda mogu i gentoo stage2 ici slagati, s obzirom na to koliko paketa moram prekompajirat
[09:58] <dodobas> a otvorit internet, to je ok...
[09:59] <dodobas> i mozda poslati koji mail... kupit neku igru u ubuntu store-u ...
[10:18] <Mmike> dodobas: ti fakat postajes mrgud :)
[10:18] <Mmike> jos malo i bit ces gori od mene
[10:18] <Mmike> brate mili, sasanak jos traje a meni se sere sza popizdit - a mislim da je ipak neprikladno da serem na sastanku
[10:27] <dodobas> Mmike: 'postajem' :)
[10:37] <nicols> ajajaj
[10:37] <nicols> ja moram ić leć
[10:39] <jelly> dodobas: kak ne fali?
[10:39] <jelly> ak nema ono sto ti treba svaki dan, onda fali
[10:39] <hrvojem> Mmike: \o/
[10:49] <vileni> p2v kvm prijedlozi?
[10:59] <nicols> 7 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:59] <nicols> Need to get 235 MB of archives.
[11:20] <BotaniCar> vileni: sretno :) BTW, s cega migriras, pravog zeljeza ? Ja sam P2V koristio za virtualke koje se nisu znale migrirati, pa sam im rekao da su "pravo zeljezo" :9
[11:25] <BotaniCar> "kako su na ekranu mala slova kad su na tastaturi velika?" # ova moja frendica kaj dela u skoli ima celicne zivce
[11:26] <vileni> BotaniCar: da, zeljezo
[11:27] <vileni> najgore je sto ga nemam kamo direktno migrirati, posto su resursi za njega predvidjeni u fizickoj nadogradnji istog
[11:29] <BotaniCar> ja bi uzeo neki provjereni ( i ima ih cca 2 ) physical to VHD , a onda "kvm-image convert tra bla"
[11:30] <BotaniCar> fizicku masinu si dampas na svoj stroj, nemoj reci da ni kod sebe nemas par terabajta mjesta </troll>
[11:36] <vileni> BotaniCar: imam samo ssd 240gb u svom stroju
[11:36] <vileni> a i nisu cak ni terabajti u pitanju
[11:41] <BotaniCar> Posudi disk, ozbiljno mislim da ce ti P2VHD>quemu biti brze i imas "zakesiran" jedan primjerak virtualke u VHD formatu za prvu ruku.
[11:45] <obrut> dodobas: stavis qgisove repoe i miran si :P
[11:48] <hbogner> cak je i osgeo live dvd baziran na ubuntu, tj lubuntu
[11:52] <obrut> nego, pripremam ja tako jednu cestovnu biciklisticku voznju, smislim rutu, ocem provjerit jel svuda asfalt... prodjem doslovno cijelu trasu "streetviewom" osim jednog komada... gledam taj komad na satelitskoj, ne kuzi se podloga, gledam one aviosnimke na arkodu, ne kuzi se... gledam topo karte, nije bas jasno... odem na OSM i za taj jedan komad ceste pregledam segmente, segmenti nemaju kategoriju cesto osim jednog i samo za taj
[11:56] <jelly> vojska!
[11:57] <jelly> area 51
[12:08] <BotaniCar> Jebenti SELinux, slazem neki server, poslozim sve k'o robot ( brzo i tocno, jel), probam - ne radi :)
[12:08] <BotaniCar> Jebenlisi, nikad se necu navici na restorecon i trabla :D
[12:10] <jelly> bar nisi ko mi, disejbl i gotovo
[12:10] <vileni> BotaniCar: na cemu se vrti taj p2vhd?
[12:11] <BotaniCar> Koncept mi je jeben, samo kaj pre rijetko moram cackati po tome, pa sam sve zaboravil
[12:11] <obrut> ili barem premissive pa vidis sta se dogadja :)
[12:11] <vileni> BotaniCar: vjezbaj selinux, za rhce :P
[12:13] <BotaniCar> vileni: Ako imas negdje Hyper-v server, mozes konverziju napraviti kroz njegovo sucelje ( simuliras stvaranje nove virtualke , kod kreiranja diska kazes da mu je source za VHD neki fizicki disk ). 3rd party alata ima za sve platforme.
[12:13] <BotaniCar> vileni: nda, zaboravio sam, ima ti i virtualbox u sebi konverter
[12:15] <BotaniCar> vileni: cat /dev/sdKojiVec | VBoxManage convertfromraw stdin nekimoj.vdi NUMBEROFBYTES
[12:15] <jelly> heh. P2V tool od vmwareta doslovno tar-a cijelu fizicku masinu fajl po fajl
[12:23] <BotaniCar> I radi super !
[12:30] <BotaniCar> vileni: ako cemo pravo, nemas kaj puno vjezbat' za prizemnu administraciju SElinuxa, sealert ti odma' da i rjesenje za gresku, samo c/p
[12:30] <BotaniCar> Kreiranje konteksta je drkanje, koliko se sjecam :)
[12:31] <BotaniCar> Jeste koristili DOM-ove kao boot deviceove za nekaj ozbiljnije ? Ako da, se to da skonfigurirati u failover modelu, ako jedan pr'ne da drugi preuzme ?
[12:49] <jelly> ovaj pt-diskstats je cist ok
[12:49] <jelly> cisce nego iostat
[12:50] <jelly> mora se masirat output za device-mapper i multipath, al isto tako je i za iostat
[13:06] <Mmike> masirat? :)
[13:11] <pkiller> malo ti njega malo on tebe :)
[13:12] <jelly> pt-diskstats --devices-regex="dm-5|dm-6|dm-8|dm-9|dm-10|dm-11|dm-13|dm-14|dm-15|dm-16|dm-17|dm-18|dm-19|dm-20|dm-21" --columns-regex="rd_mb_s|wr_mb_s|busy|io_s" | sed -u "$(ls -l /dev/mapper|awk '/^b.* 253,/ {printf "s/dm-%-6d/%-9s/; ", $6, $NF}');"
[13:12] <jelly> ^^ masirat
[13:12] <BotaniCar> jelly jako voli regexpe :)
[13:13] <jelly> kad imaš čekić, svaki problem izgleda kao čavel?
[13:13] <BotaniCar> Pa, da ! :)
[13:14] <pkiller> lako je jelly-u volit regexp kad ga u potpunosti zna i razumije za razliku od mene koji ga mrzim :)
[13:14] <BotaniCar> ja mrzim sebe kad nesto ne razumijem :)
[13:14] <BotaniCar> "mrzim" :)
[13:15] <jelly> inače alat prikazuje dm-7, dm-8, dm-9... diskove umjesto mp-db1, mp-db2, pv-misc0, pv-export, ...
[13:15] <jelly> pkiller: step 1) kupis majicu
[13:15] <BotaniCar> LOL
[13:15] <pkiller> to je to? :)
[13:16] <nicols> lako za dm, ali ja sad imam "real interface names" i nemam više eth0 i eth1 nego enp2s0 i eno1 :D
[13:16] <BotaniCar> Negdje moras poceti, malena investicija ce te zastititi od vremenskih neprilika, ucinit' ce te pozeljnijim zenikom, i dodatno te motivirati da se primis necega i zaradis pare koje si dao za majicu !
[13:16] <jelly> nicols: to se negdje... ugasi :-)
[13:16] <jelly> http://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com/products/i-know-regular-expressions
[13:17] <BotaniCar> nicols: dze to ima ?
[13:17] <jelly> BotaniCar: pa kaj nije sad tako na centos 7 i inima
[13:17] <pkiller> hehe to to
[13:17] <nicols> jelly: a to sam negdje pročitao da je ustvari dobra stvar ... :)
[13:17] <jelly> aha
[13:18] <BotaniCar> jelly: centos 7 http://jebo.me/pas/7@raw
[13:18] <pkiller> prvo kupis majicu pa poslije naucis jer moras :)
[13:19] <jelly> oces price s londonske burze kak je to dobra stvar kad im node zatitra kod boota, i poremeti se PCIexpress midplane, i deviceovi budu drugim redoslijedom, i networkd ili kaj vec uredno digne krive mreze na krivim interfejsima
[13:19] <BotaniCar> Sve u okolini di jedna milisekunda znaci N izgubljenih novaca :)
[13:20] <pkiller> pa onda je lakse to srusit nego bilo sta drugo :)
[13:20] <jelly> BotaniCar: mozda je opcionalno...? pojma
[13:21] <BotaniCar> jelly: ovo je minimal install koji sam jutros podigao, ne znam. Samo znam da vise nemam ifconfig :)
[13:21] <jelly> pkiller: to je kad software developer pretpostavi idealni hardver koji nikad nema bugova
[13:21] <nicols> znao sam da je potering kriv za to: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[13:21] <BotaniCar> &%"#$%&$/#" ip addr *
[13:21] <jelly> ip a # krace od ifconfig... ja zadovoljan
[13:22] <BotaniCar> jelly: STALNO nekaj moram ucit, zato psujem, ne zato kaj je losije :)
[13:22] <nicols> btw nema smisla ovo "list"
[13:22] <nicols> ip a = ip addr = ip addr list
[13:22] <BotaniCar> nicols: uopce ne znam zakaj sam to dometnuo :)
[13:22] <jelly> ls -list
[13:22] <pkiller> BotaniCar: zato si i dobar u tome što radiš jer si uvijek spreman naučiti nešto novo i nisi zadovoljan sa status quo :)
[13:23] <BotaniCar> pkiller: ja sam samo uvijek spreman psovati :)
[13:23] <BotaniCar> I jesti! Ne zaboravimo, uvijek sam spreman jesti ! :)
[13:23] <pkiller> BotaniCar: nemoj sad nabrajat osnovne stvari za život, kao psovanje (regular croatian expression) i jesti :)
[13:24] <nicols> jedino me smeta što se na "ip r a" nemože skratiti via i dev :D
[13:24] <BotaniCar> pkiller: ja sam skroman covo, daj da jedem,galamim i pusim drogu - i ja sretan :)
[13:24] <pkiller> brada from anada mada
[13:25] <pkiller> brada neke druge majke :)
[13:25] <jelly> +window-drag (default:off) Full window drag
[13:25] <BotaniCar> Nemrem vjerovat', P'tering nam je (privremeno) dao mogucnost da ugasimo tu funkcionalnost \o/
[13:26] <nicols> hahahaha
[13:26] <nicols> privremeno? :)
[13:26] <jelly> da, "via" je duze od "gw"
[13:26] <BotaniCar> Mislis da to nece nestati u nekoj od buducih iteracija ?
[13:27] <nicols> ja neću gasit .... ionako su mi doma oba interfejsa i bridge-u
[13:27] <nicols> jelly: a jel mogu napisat g umjesto gw? :)
[13:27] <nicols> "g" is a garbage
[13:27] <nicols> nemože :(
[13:27] <BotaniCar> ja necu gasit' ( kad mi se pojavi ) jer ce me ovaj drek docekat' negdje, a ja necu imati pojma kaj se desava :)
[13:28] <nicols> "gw" is a garbage.... hmmm?
[13:28] <nicols> gw radi sa route add
[13:28] <nicols> ne radi sa "ip r a"
[13:29] <jelly> da
[13:29] <nicols> onda i nije kraće od via
[13:29] <nicols> to je jedno slovo
[13:29] <nicols> a "ip r a" je 3 slova kraće od "route add"
[13:38] <nicols> pitanje: koji vam je omiljeni mono font za terminal, irc i ostale džidže? :)
[13:38] <BotaniCar> kojimi distra da, i'm not picky
[13:40] <jelly> vga 8x16 :-D
[13:41] <jelly> ak ga nema, terminus bold iste veličine. Ak je DPI > 120 onda je ionako premali
[13:43] <jelly> (KDE3 konsole je dolazio sa VGA fontom, zvao ga je "console8x16")
[13:43] <jelly> više ga nema u distri dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/console8x16.pcf.gz
[13:49] <hbogner> obrut, jesi bar nasao informaciju o toj cesti?
[14:00] <Mmike> ifconfig ne radi dobro
[14:00] <Mmike> ip radi bolje
[14:00] <Mmike> iako je manje citljiv :)
[14:01] <jelly> mind you, ifconfig ne radi dobro zato što ga namjerno nisu updateali na novi API
[14:05] <Mmike> yup
[14:05] <Mmike> ifconfig bi trebao biti obsolete
[14:05] <Mmike> btw, nisam znao da u /etc/network/interfaces mogu rec: address: 192.168.10.15/24
[14:06] <Mmike> u biti "address 192.168.10.15/24"
[14:09] <BotaniCar> I nadati se najboljem ! :)
[14:10] <Mmike> ma jok, radi as advertised
[14:11] <BotaniCar> kaj ako ti netko makne gateway negdje drugdje ?
[14:21] <jelly> Mmike: otkad to
[14:22] <jelly> mislim, definitivno krace i ljepse nego network ... i netmask ... bezveze
[14:22] <Mmike> jelly: pojma, al' radi :)
[14:24] <Mmike> auto br0:1
[14:24] <Mmike> iface br0:1 inet static
[14:24] <Mmike> address 192.168.207.60/17
[14:24] <jelly> kao sistemac, ne volim kad nesto radi a da ne znam zasto radi i otkad
[14:24] <Mmike> and this works like a charm
[14:24] <Mmike> root@matun:~# ip r
[14:24] <Mmike> default via 176.58.111.1 dev br0
[14:24] <Mmike> 10.0.3.0/24 dev lxcbr0 proto kernel scope link src 10.0.3.1
[14:24] <Mmike> 176.58.111.0/24 dev br0 proto kernel scope link src 176.58.111.139
[14:24] <Mmike> 192.168.128.0/17 dev br0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.207.60
[14:24] <Mmike> root@matun:~#
[14:25] <rut> dd
[14:25] <rut> ja dosao da cujem kak je core prozor ?
[14:38] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan :)
[14:42] <BotaniCar> jelly: mozda sam propustio, kaj si rekao, kad da se nacrtamo na Tresnji ? Odmah ili da cekamo 18h i vilenog ?
[14:43] <jelly> BotaniCar: kad vam vise pase, mozda bolje u 6
[14:47] <BotaniCar> OK.
[14:48] <jelly> slucajno sam danas naime dosao u 10 na posal... O:-)
[14:48] <BotaniCar> Mi cemo bit' tamo i prije, ako vileni ili ti osvanete ranije - javi :)
[14:48] <BotaniCar> Idemo pojest' sve kaj ima na platzu za jest' :)
[15:43] <vileni> ja ne mogu ranije osvanuti zbog posla :)
[15:53] <jelly> BotaniCar: javite se kad ste blizu da se sparkate ili zaustavite negdje blizu ulaza da prekrcamo "robu" odmah u auto
[15:58] <obrut> ovo je vec tema za McNulty-a
[16:01] <Mmike> kaj vec idete?!
[16:01] <Mmike> kaj nije u 18?!
[16:01] <Mmike> kak sad to?!
[16:02] <Mmike> joooooooooooooj
[16:14] <Mmike> jelly, BotaniCar, obrut, kad se vidjate?
[16:20] <obrut> Mmike: meni je promakla ova tura :)
[16:20] <obrut> tak da ja nisam u igri...
[16:20] <obrut> odoh na trening
[16:21] <Mmike> picku
[16:21] <Mmike> kaj su tam vec?!
[16:27] <vileni> ks mods,
[16:27] <vileni> iliti, ja jos nisam
[16:30] <jelly> Mmike: BotaniCar je vec tu. Ja idem sad, nesto sam rjesavao s vendorom...
[16:32] <Mmike> jelly, ack, ja krecem, tamo za 15 min
[16:32] <Mmike> vileni, ajde ajde
[20:22] <Mmike> mrtva
[20:22] <Mmike> tisina
[20:34] <vileni> ne mozes tipkati i unistavati mandarine istovremeno
[20:34] <Mmike> :D
[20:53] <vileni> juju deploy bed
[21:10] <Mmike> blago tebi
[21:50] <jelly> nisu lose mandarine
[22:26] <nicols> zijev
[22:27] <nicols> hehehehehehe: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4w1YxfJwOWM/VkJuG-Y2TdI/AAAAAAACQ1o/cB58ix5tw38/w600-h283-no/12108741_1044980485542244_3637099200942295596_n.png
[23:13] <Mmike> nicols, lol :D
[23:15] <Mmike> http://everydaycarry.com/
[23:20] <api984_> vecer
[23:29] <jobenty> pozdrav
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