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[00:35] <autowiz> 영웅님 안녕하세요
[00:42] <JasonJang> 전류량을 감시/모니터링 하는 Embbed용 unit 가 뭐 있어요?
[00:44] <JasonJang> Embedded
[00:47] <HolyKnight> 영웅찡 ㅎㅇㅇ
[00:54] <autowiz> 홀리찡 ㅎㅇㅇ
[01:00] <ipeter_> 사마휘님 연봉 높으셨구나.
[01:00] <ipeter_> 부럽네요.
[01:00] <ipeter_> 위에서부터 훑고 왔습니다.
[01:00] <ipeter_> 히히-
[01:00] <ipeter_> 좋은 아침을 보내고 계신가요.
[01:00] <ipeter_> 일좀하고 올께요
[01:00] <JasonJang> 자문자답 https://www.google.co.kr/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&q=current+monitor+ic
[01:08] <HolyKnight> 오토찡 ㅎㅇㅇ
[01:08] <HolyKnight> 멘찡 ㅎㅇㅇ
[01:11] <autowiz> 네 안녕하세요 ㅎㅎ
[01:12] <HolyKnight> @SBS8news: '천체물리학저널'이 송유근 군의 논문 게재를 철회했습니다. 공동저자가 학회에서 발표한 자료를 사용하고도 인용 사실을 명시하지 않은 점이 문제로 지적됐습니다. http://news.sbs.co.kr/news/endPage.do?news_id=N1003284151 pic.twitter.com/ummVN8DhMj
[01:32] <Work^Seony> 헐 터기가 러시아 전폭기를 격추시켰네요
[02:03] <JasonJang> 전투/전폭기에 대한 경고 통신은 공개방송이라니까 이유는 이미 충분했다'는 것이 제 생각.
[02:13] <Work^Seony> 그렇긴 한데, 그걸 빌미 삼아서 보복할 가능성이 너무나도 큰 나라가 러시아라는게 문제인거 같아요
[02:14] <JasonJang> 저는 '빌미를 제공하지 않았다'는... 하지만, 어떤 구실이든 만들 것 같은 것이 그 나라 대텅령, 결국 비슷한 말씀.
[02:16] <Work^Seony> 러시아 경제상황이, 지금 뭐든 일을 저질러야할 상황이거든요...
[02:23] <HolyKnight> 3차 가나유
[02:24] <Work^Seony> 중동에서 일어날 거 같아요
[02:24] <Work^Seony> 미국이랑 러시아랑 지원해주는 파벌이 다르더라구요
[02:24] <Work^Seony> 미국이 시아파, 러시아나 수니파 인가 암튼 그래요. 서로 다른 파벌을 지원해줘서, 나중에 문제될 거에요
[02:24] <JasonJang> "미국이랑 러시아랑 지원해주는 파벌이 다르더라구요" <-- 맞는 말씀, 이 부분이 심각
[02:25] <JasonJang> 시리아 내전이 삼국지도 아니고 6국지쯤 되죠~
[02:26] <Work^Seony> 네 글쵸. 근데 웃기는건 IS는 수니파거든요...
[02:26] <Work^Seony> 러시아는 IS를 격퇴하자면서 수니파를 지원해주는데, 이게 또 시리아 내전에서 상황이 꼬이니...
[02:28] <Work^Seony> 춘추전국시대 같군요 ㅎㅎ
[02:29] <JasonJang> 패권국들의 싸움에 장소를 제공한 꼴이 된 거죠.
[02:30] <JasonJang> 국민들이 불쌍 ㅠㅠ
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 걍 미국이랑 유럽이 하는대로 냅뒀으면 자연스레 흘러갔을텐데, 느닷없이 러시아가 시리아 정부군을 지원하면서부터 문제가 꼬이기 시작했죠...
[02:30] <Work^Seony> 미국이랑 유럽이 반군 손을 들어줬는데, 반군 하는 짓이 정부군이나 다름없이 막장짓 저지르고 여기에 러시아가 정부군 편을 들어주니..
[02:31] <Work^Seony> 이제, IS + 시리아 + 미국 + 러시아 = ?
[02:31] <Work^Seony> 어찌될지 궁금하네요...
[02:32] <JasonJang> 프?러? 누가 한 말인지 몰라도 "휴전은 없다"고...
[02:33] <Work^Seony> 프랑스 대통령이네요
[02:47] <razGon_MINILA> 러시아의 중앙아시아에 대한 열망은 크죠.
[02:47] <razGon_MINILA> 지하자원과 부동항.
[02:52] <razGon_MINILA> IS랑 정부군이랑 다른 파 아닌가요?
[03:04] <ipeter_> 세계가 어지롭네요
[03:04] <ipeter_> 휴.
[03:04] <ipeter_> 식사들 맛있게 하셔요.
[03:05] <ipeter_> 저는 맥에다 윈도우와 오피스좀 설치하겠습니다!
[03:16] <autowiz> 윈도우는 가능하면 큰걸로 추천드립니다. 커야 환기도 잘되고 햇볓도 잘 들지요 ㅎㅎ
[03:16] <autowiz> 스트레스 과다로 미쳐가는거 같습니다 클클
[03:19] <razGon_MINILA> ㄴㄴ
[03:20] <razGon_MINILA> 윈도우.ㅎㅎ
[03:20] <autowiz> 사는게 힘드네요
[03:50] <ipeter_> 역시 오피스는 윈도우에서 써야 제맛인거 같네요.
[03:50] <ipeter_> 냠냠
[03:50] <ipeter_> 설치 고고했습니다.
[04:12] <autowiz> 아아 이런 바보같은 ... 비행기 모드에서 wifi 랑 bluetooth 는 다시 키는게 가능했군요 아주 오래전부터
[04:12] <autowiz> 비행기모드 진입할때도 알려줬었는데 이제야 봤네요.
[04:13] <autowiz> 공기계가 하나생겨서 3G 전화랑 데이터를 둘다 끄고 싶었는데 이제서야 극복~ 했습니다 ㅎㅎ
[04:37] <ipeter_> 휴.
[04:37] <ipeter_> 인증받으려 했더니 바로 안된다고 하네요.
[04:37] <ipeter_> 역시 그냥 소프트웨어는 정품 고고
[04:37] <ipeter_> 하는게 맞네요
[04:37] <ipeter_> 아. 번거로워요.
[04:44] <ipeter_> 아.. 정품이긴 한데, 사용처를 잘못 말해서 번거롭게 되었네요.
[04:44] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠㅠ
[04:45] <autowiz> 학교에 있는 볼륨라이센스 사용은 안되나요?
[04:46] <ipeter_> 그것도 되는데, 제가 돈주고 구매한 카피 쓰고 싶어서요.
[04:46] <ipeter_> 델베뉴 판매할때 나온 오피스라서 델 베뉴에만 사용가능한데,
[04:46] <ipeter_> 제가 피씨에 설치한다고 하니까 못풀어주겠다고 하더라구요.
[04:47] <ipeter_> 잇힝...ㅠ
[04:49] <autowiz> 아하 오피스가 아니라 윈도우즈 말씀하시는거군요
[04:49] <ipeter_> 아니요
[04:49] <ipeter_> 오피스요
[04:49] <ipeter_> 오피스 2013 홈 앤드 스튜던트요.
[04:52] <ipeter_> 제 맥미니는 pages와 numbers도 구매해야해요.
[04:52] <ipeter_> 옛날 맥이라서요.
[04:52] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[05:21] <autowiz> 안녕하세요
[05:23] <h-pc> 하이여..~~!
[05:48] <ipeter_> 솝트웨어 은근 돈 나가네요.
[05:48] <ipeter_> 쓰지도 않을꺼면서 페이지스랑 넘버스 왜케 사고 싶은지..ㅠ
[05:49] <h-pc> ee
[05:49] <h-pc> ㄸ
[05:53] <angrystar> 로그온 화면 바꾸려면 어케해요?
[05:59] <PotatoGim> https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=%EC%9A%B0%EB%B6%84%ED%88%AC+%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EC%9D%B8+%ED%99%94%EB%A9%B4&oq=%EC%9A%B0%EB%B6%84%ED%88%AC+%EB%A1%9C%EA%B7%B8%EC%9D%B8+%ED%99%94%EB%A9%B4&aqs=chrome..69i57.10256j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8
[06:00] <PotatoGim> 검색은 해보시고....
[06:31] <JasonJang> razGon_ MINILA: 총상 사망자 그림을 보는 중, 1 enterance 2 exit 는 알겠는데, 3 recovery 뜻을 모르겠어요.
[06:55] <razGon_MINILA> 회복이라는 뜻인가요?
[06:55] <razGon_MINILA> 사망이라서..
[06:59] <autowiz> 법의학사전을 찾아보시는게 맞을듯 합니다만 .
[06:59] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[07:00] <ipeter_> 어렵네요.
[07:00] <autowiz> recover wads 라는게 있는데 , 하나는 지문 검출 할때 가루 뭍혀서 쓰는 화장 붓같은거
[07:00] <razGon_MINILA> 탄흔인가요? 그러면?
[07:01] <autowiz> 총기사고의 경우 탄흔 복구할려고 상흔에 다른 물질을 주입해보는 뭐 그런거 아닐까 싶습니다만
[07:02] <autowiz> 조직이나 기관이 분리된 경우에 재조합도 포함되는거같네요
[07:04] <autowiz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSsoT24U9-M
[07:04] <autowiz> 이런게 떠오르긴 하는데 .. 재순님 왜 그런 무서운걸 보고 계세요 ㅠㅠ
[07:14] <autowiz> 회수 라는 의미로 쓰는분야도 있다네요(byproduct recovery 부산물회수(∼回收))
[07:20] <autowiz> 총알 (탄두) 모양 복구 일 수 도 있을거 같습니다. CSI 같은데 자주 나오는거처럼 총알의 외형이 변형되버리는경우가 많으니까 그걸 복원해서 어떤 무기에서 발사된건지 찾는거지요 잘되면 강선무늬도 찾아내고
[07:25] <JasonJang> ㅋㅋㅋ 답글 감사~
[08:20] <ipeter_> 벌써 시간이 이렇게 되었네요.
[08:20] <ipeter_> 휴.
[08:20] <ipeter_> 힘듭니다.
[08:20] <ipeter_> 어렵네요.
[08:37] <autowiz> 회사 동료분의 가족이 랜섬웨어에 감염 되셨다고 합니다.
[08:38] <Seony> 사람한테도 전염되나요?
[08:39] <autowiz> 사무실 컴 중에 한대가 걸렸는데 , 그분도 감염돼셨다고 하시네요 ... 뭐 감염경로야 같은 사무실이니까 같은 사이트를 같이 방문하셨을 수 도 있고 , 로컬네트웍을 타고 감염되셨을 수 도 있으며 , USB 메모리를 통해서 감염되셨을 수 도 있겠습니다만. 자료를 분리가 가능한 장치에 2중을 가지고 다니지 않는이상
[08:39] <autowiz> 여차하면 곤란할 수 도 있을거 같습니다 . ㅎㅎ 죄송합니다. 랜섬웨어에 피해를 보셨다고 합니다.
[08:39] <Seony> ㅋㅋ
[08:40] <autowiz> ㅠㅠ 써니님 ㅋㅋ
[08:40] <Seony> 맥프로 그래픽카드 문제 때문에 애플스토어에 수리 맡겼다가 오늘 찾아왔어요
[08:40] <autowiz> 오오 드디어 올아왔군요
[08:40] <autowiz> 포테토님? ㅎㅎ 이사하고 많이 바쁘시나요?
[08:41] <autowiz> PotatoGim:
[08:41] <Seony> 일단 저는 리붓 합니다.
[08:41] <autowiz> 네 다녀오세요
[08:46] <PotatoGim> 에고, 자다가 일어났네요;
[08:46] <PotatoGim> 이사 때문에 못한 일들을 급하게 하느라 죽을 맛입니다...ㅜ
[09:10] <autowiz> 서니님 혹시
[09:10] <autowiz> LDAP 문제는 유통기한이 끝나셨나요?
[09:10] <Seony> 네 그건 해결했어요
[09:11] <Seony> 그리고 제 사수한테, ldap bbs 만드는 프로젝트 한 번 하고싶다고 했더니 ok 했네요
[09:11] <autowiz> 알만한 사람이 당도해 있습니다 . ㅎㅎ 이사때문에 바쁘다고는 하시지만 도움이 필요하다고 하면 도와주실분일거 같습니다. ㅋㅋ
[09:11] <Seony> 왜 ldap으로는 게시판을 만들지 않는걸까 하고 물어보니까, 그러고보니 자기도 본적이 없다고 왜 그런지 궁금하다네요 ㅎㅎ
[09:11] <Seony> 포테토님 오셨어요?
[09:12] <autowiz> 26분전에
[09:12] <autowiz> 살짝 지나가셨습니다.
[09:12] <Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ 그렇군요. 일단 혼자 해결은 해놨어요
[09:19] <PotatoGim> 음... 구현에 따라 다르지만 아무래도 계층형을 기본으로 하는데다가 읽기에 특화라 보통은 쓰기에 대해 속도가 좀 떨어집니다.
[09:20] <Seony> 그게, 동접자 수백명씩 몰리는데서나 문제가 되는거 아닌가요?
[09:21] <PotatoGim> 수백명까지야 문제가 될까 싶다만은... 일반적으로 스트레스에 대해 좀 약하죠.
[09:22] <PotatoGim> 질의도 매우 원초적이라서...
[09:22] <PotatoGim> 관계가 복잡한 스키마를 갖는 경우에는 특히나... 쥐약입니다...ㅜ
[09:22] <Seony> 검색조건을 좀 심플하게 해도 된다면 꽤 쓸만하겠네요
[09:23] <PotatoGim> 네, 단순한 속성만 갖는다면 문제는 안될 겁니다 ㅎㅎ
[09:23] <Seony> 쿼리 날리는게 좀 힘들긴 하더라구요
[09:23] <Seony> ou 2개 검색하는 것도 쉽지않은거 같아요 ㅎㅎ
[09:24] <PotatoGim> 스키마만 잘 정리된다면 괜찮은 것 같습니다!
[09:25] <Seony> 지금 ldap에 관한 서적을 한 권 읽고있는데, 다 읽고나서 ldap bbs 한 번 만들어보려구요
[09:25] <Seony> 워낙 코딩실력이 허접해서 잘 될까 모르겠네요
[10:01] <ipeter_> gb
[10:01] <ipeter_> 휴
[10:02] <ipeter_> 뱀웨어 설치하면요(workstation)
[10:02] <ipeter_> 게스트 os에 램을 6기가 할당하면
[10:02] <ipeter_> workstation을 구동하자마자
[10:02] <ipeter_> 호스트 os에서는
[10:02] <ipeter_> 램 6기가를 아예 할당하고 시작하지 않나요?
[10:03] <ipeter_> 우분투 14.04에서 게스트os를 윈도우즈 설치하고
[10:03] <ipeter_> 6기가 할당하고 실행했는데
[10:03] <ipeter_> 왜 6기가를 소모하지 않죠?
[10:03] <ipeter_> 반면에 맥에선 4기가 할당하고 설치했는데
[10:04] <ipeter_> 프로그램 시작하자마자 4기가 할당하고 시작하는데 말이죠.
[10:04] <ipeter_> 아닌가요?
[10:04] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠㅠ
[10:04] <autowiz> 선할당 하지 않을겁니다
[10:04] <ipeter_> 잘 모르겠습니다.
[10:04] <autowiz> 그러면 동시에 vmware 돌릴때 죽어나거든요
[10:05] <ipeter_> 헐..그렇군요.
[10:05] <autowiz> vm 돌릴때 장점이 저거인데
[10:06] <autowiz> 하드디스크 처럼 필요한 블록단위라던가 그렇게 처리 됩니다. 선할당 할 수 있는 방법은 있을것도 같습니다만 별로 쓸일이야 있을까 싶습니다.
[10:10] <ipeter_> 아...그렇군요..
[10:10] <ipeter_> ㅠㅠ
[10:10] <ipeter_> 감사합니다.
[10:30] <ipeter_> 와.
[10:30] <ipeter_> 크롬 엄청 무겁네요.
[10:30] <ipeter_> 램 사용량 보니까
[10:30] <ipeter_> 크롬만 3기가를 먹습니다.
[10:35] <jgs> 크롬 엄청 무겁죠....
[10:54] <PotatoGim> 으어... 이제 퇴근했네요..
[10:54] <PotatoGim> 간만에 빠른(?) 퇴근...
[10:56] <PotatoGim> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ergodox-ez-an-incredible-mechanical-keyboard/x/12424078#/
[10:56] <PotatoGim> 드디어 배송이 코 앞이네요..ㅋㅋ
[10:56] <PotatoGim> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ergodox-ez-an-incredible-mechanical-keyboard/x/12424078#/updates
[10:59] <ipeter_> 보기만해도 후덜덜 간지입니다.
[10:59] <ipeter_> 우와
[11:03] <autowiz> 키보드 오면 5분만 저 쓸 수 있게 해주시나요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[11:05] <PotatoGim> 으허허 5분쯤이야 대수가 되겠습니까 ㅎㅎ
[11:16] <Gooos> 살아있는 챗방인건가요..?
[11:17] <PotatoGim> 살아있지도, 죽어있지도 않습니다.
[12:38] <PotatoGim> 윽... 슈뢰딩거의 IRC를 몰라주시고 나가시다니..
[13:16] <HolyKnight> http://blog.synapsoft.co.kr/419
[13:28] <PotatoGim> 오오.. 사이냅소프트..
[13:31] <PotatoGim> http://www.synapsoft.co.kr/jsp/recruit/recruitment_2015.html
[13:39] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷ
[13:39] <HolyKnight> ㄷㄷㄷ
[14:27] <ipeter> ??
[14:27] <ipeter> 사이냅 소프트...!
[15:34] <HolyKnight> http://www.hankyung.com/news/app/newsview.php?aid=2015030626251
[16:24] <autowiz> 당장급하다고 시행하는 대안들은 나중에 더큰 리스크로 돌아올 수 도 있는데 그런 생각을 하고는 있지는 모르겠네요
[16:26] <autowiz> 단타성 대안은 간헐적 이거나 문제 자체가 단기적으로 올때 취해야 할 대안이지 , 특히나 요즘같은 장기 침체에서 단타성 대안을 시행했는데 경기 침체가 장기화 되면 , 시행했던 대안들의 부작용이 여기저기서 나올것같습니다.
[16:26] <autowiz> 문제 자체를 이해 분석하고 장기적 대안이 마련되야 한다고 봅니다. 라고 말해도 저도 뭐 전문가는 아니니
[18:19] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:38] <autowiz> 써니님 안녕하세요~~헤헤헤
[18:38] <Work^Seony> 미국은 오늘만 일하면 목금토일 쭉 쉽니다 ㅎㅎ
[18:39] <autowiz> 드디어 그날이 왔군요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[18:39] <Work^Seony> 네 근데 살건 별로 없어요
[18:40] <Work^Seony> 미국 유통구조가 한국이랑 다르다보니, 실제로 세일 엄청하는 물건은 걍 미끼상품입니다.
[18:40] <Work^Seony> 나머지는 고만고만해요
[18:40] <autowiz> 작년인가 제작년에는
[18:41] <autowiz> 블랙프라이데이 역수상품이 엄청 들어올정도로 대폭 할인 아니었던가요?
[18:42] <Work^Seony> 그건, 제 생각에 한국 가격이랑 여기 가격이랑 차이가 나서 그런거 같아요
[18:42] <Work^Seony> 여기 티비 가격만해도, 세일 안한 가격만으로 이미 가격이 엄청나게 차이나잖아요..
[18:43] <autowiz> 하긴 그렇겠죠?
[18:43] <Work^Seony> 여기는 그냥 코스트코만 가도 $500이면 삼성 48인치 한 대 사거든요...
[18:44] <Work^Seony> 실제로 제가 게임용으로 쓰는 42인치 삼성 스마트 티비만 해도, 2013년에 $500 주고 샀거든요...
[18:44] <autowiz> 저도 커브드가 좀 싸게나와서 하나 사볼까 하다가
[18:44] <Work^Seony> 여기서 한 10%만 세일한다고 쳐도 제 입장에서는 고만고만하지만, 한국에서는 "엄청" 세일하는거죠 ㅎㅎ
[18:44] <autowiz> 아직은 좀더 기다릴려고 참았습니다.
[18:44] <autowiz> UHD 모니터 커브드가 점점 싸지고 있더라구요 그거 좀더 싸지면 두개 붙여서 써볼 생각입니다 ㅋㅋ
[18:45] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎㅎ 일단은, 비추 해드립니다
[18:45] <Work^Seony> 제가 몇 번 강조해드렸찌만, 27인치 2개 붙이면 목에 통증 와요
[18:45] <Work^Seony> 모니터랑 책상이랑 거리가 떨어지면 좀 낫긴한데, 그러면 대신 글자가 잘 안보이게 되고..
[18:46] <Work^Seony> 그래서 저는 요즘 웹브라우저 폰트 크기 110%로 늘려서 봅니다 ㅎㅎ
[18:46] <Work^Seony> 늙은 건가요?
[18:46] <autowiz> 저는 모니터를 땡기던가 몸을 바싹 붙이던가 그러고 살고 있습니다 ㅎㅎ
[18:47] <autowiz> 조금 불편한거 같아도 몸을 딱 붙이니까 집중은 좀더 잘되는거 같기도 하고 그러더라구요 ㅎㅎ
[18:47] <Work^Seony> 그러시면, 27인치 이상 크기를 2대 붙이시면 저처럼 목에 통증 오실 거에요...
[18:48] <Work^Seony> 미리 체험해보시는 방법이,
[18:49] <autowiz> 저지금 29인치 울트라와이드? 하고 27인치 따닥 붙여서 쓰고 있습니다. ㅎㅎ
[18:49] <Work^Seony> 근데 괜찮으세요?
[18:49] <autowiz> 책상이 ㄱ 자 라서 둘다 비슷한 거리에 있긴 하네요
[18:49] <Work^Seony> 아 ㄱ자....
[18:49] <Work^Seony> 그럼 좀 괜찮겠네요..
[18:49] <Work^Seony> 저는 일자 책상에서 2대 붙여쓰느라... ㅎㅎ
[18:50] <autowiz> 아 생각해보니 확실히 좀 그렇겠네요
[18:50] <autowiz> 얼마전까진 23인치 모니터 가지 3대가 있었는데
[18:50] <autowiz> 그때는 몸이랑 목이랑 손이랑 다들 방향이 달라가지고
[18:51] <autowiz> 목이 엄청 아팠었네요 헐... 불과 수십일 전 일이었는데 잊어버리고 있었습니다.
[18:51] <Work^Seony> 지금은 적응 되신거 같네요 ㅎㅎ
[18:51] <Work^Seony> 저도 어느정도는 적응이 되긴했거든요
[18:52] <autowiz> 지금은 배치가 좀 달라져서
[18:52] <Work^Seony> 초반에는 정말 스트레스였어요
[18:52] <Work^Seony> 음 근데 ㄱ자 책상에서 모서리에 일하시면 좀 불편하지 않으세요?
[18:52] <autowiz> 머리랑 몸(+손) 이랑 같이 움직이게 만들어놨거든요
[18:52] <autowiz> 네 그래서 모서리(대각선) 은 가능하면 잘 안씁니다.
[18:53] <autowiz> 가능하면 메인에서 모두 처리를
[18:53] <Work^Seony> 음... 아무래도 27인치 2개를 붙이니까 거리를 좁혀야하다보니 책상 뒷부분 공간낭비가 심해지더라구요
[18:53] <Work^Seony> 그게 싫어서 책상 끝으로 딱 붙여봤는데,
[18:54] <Work^Seony> 글씨가 안보이니까 점점 제 몸이 더 앞으로 나오더라구요 ㅎㅎ
[18:54] <autowiz> 이게 두개시면 어떻게 보면 ㅅ 자 모양으로 모니터 두대가 있으실텐데
[18:54] <Work^Seony> 아무래도, 시스템 전체적인 폰트 사이즈를 늘리고 모니더를 뒤로 붙여야겠네요...
[18:54] <Work^Seony> 네 글쵸
[18:54] <autowiz> 그러면 이도저도 아닌게 목이 아프실거 같습니다.
[18:54] <Work^Seony> 네 맞아요
[18:54] <autowiz> 그럴때는 3모니터 서라운드로 ㅎㅎㅎ
[18:55] <Work^Seony> ㅅ 자에서 각도만 좀 늘린거죠. ㅅ 이거만큼 좁히면 공간낭비도 그렇고 모양도 이상하고..
[18:55] <autowiz> 거의 센터만 쓰시고 옆에는 그냥 가끔쓰는 것들만 옮겨 놓는걸로 ㅎㅎ
[18:55] <Work^Seony> 옛날에 브라운관 모니터 쓸 때 3대 써봤어요 ㅋㅋ
[18:56] <autowiz> UHD 사면 한대만 쓰고 필요하면 어느정도 공간할당해서 원격창으로 붙어서 다 해결볼까도 했는데
[18:56] <autowiz> 아직 직접 보지도 못해가지고 그 해상도에서 그게 될지 안될지 모르겠습니다.
[18:58] <autowiz> 몇년지나면 그냥 헬멧쓰는걸로 많이들 바뀔려나요? ㅎㅎ
[18:58] <autowiz> 요즘 오큘러스 같은건데
[18:59] <autowiz> 핸드폰을 눈앞에 장착하고 3D 앱 설치하면 3D 로 화면 나온는거 몇가지 나온거 같더라구요. 몇년전에
[18:59] <autowiz> 삼성 갤럭시 전용으로 나온건 30만원 정도 했던거 같은데
[18:59] <autowiz> 이번에 범용으로 나온건 10만원 정도 였던거 같습니다.
[19:00] <autowiz> 자이로 센서랄까 머리 움직임을 처리하는데 있어서는 전용 장비인 오큘러스가 더 뛰어날거 같기는 합니다만.
[19:00] <Work^Seony> 오큘러스가 좀 더 낫지않을까 싶어요
[19:01] <Work^Seony> 갤럭시 전용 그거는 보니까, 갤럭시를 앞에 끼우고 하는 거더라구요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[19:02] <autowiz> 허얼 쿠팡 사이트가 점검 중인지 상품이 아무것도 안나와버리네요
[19:03] <autowiz> 네 아무래도 끼우는것다보니 미세하게 뭔가 안맞지 않을까 하는 생각이 자꾸들어서
[19:17] <Work^Seony> 이제 곧 ccnp를 공부해야할 때가 오네요
[19:17] <Work^Seony> 승진 얘기하는데, ccnp 없으니까 좀 그래요 ㅎㅎ
[19:17] <Work^Seony> 승진하고나면 나름 중간직책인데 챙피하기도 하고...
[19:41] <autowiz> ccnp 정도야 뭐 서니님한텐 껌일껍니다
[19:41] <Work^Seony> 헐 설마요
[19:47] <autowiz> 믿슙니다 ~ 믿슙니다 ~ ㅎㅎㅎ
[19:55] <Work^Seony> 예전 제 사수한테 들은 얘기가, ccnp는 ccna랑은 다르게 엄청 까다롭다고 들었어요
[19:56] <Work^Seony> 심지어 명령어 자동완성 탭키도 몇번 치다보면 아예 시험 종료된다고...
[19:57] <autowiz> 자동완성 ㅠㅠ
[19:58] <Work^Seony> 사수한테 ccnp 자격증 따고싶다고 얘기는 해놨는데, 막상 하려니 할게 엄청 많네요 ㅎㅎ
[19:59] <autowiz> 그래도 뭐 책한권 마스터 하면 되겠지요 ㅎㅎ 그중에 적어도 1/3~ 1/2 는 아시는 내용이실거구요
[19:59] <Work^Seony> ccna만해도 난이도가 장난 아니던데요 ㅎㅎ
[20:01] <Work^Seony> ccnp는 응시료만 백만원돈 드는군요...
[20:52] <DarkCircle> ccna는 덤프 보고 유형 쭉 익히면 됩니다. 시간은 좀 걸려요.
[20:52] <Work^Seony> ccna는 재작년에 땄어요 ㅎㅎ
[20:53] <DarkCircle> 문제 자체 난이도가 심하게 어렵진 않죠?
[20:53] <Work^Seony> 덤프 안보면 합격 못할 수준이던데요
[20:54] <DarkCircle> 장비 좀 다룰 줄 알고 네트워크 잡는거 햇갈리지만 않으면 덤프 몇문제 보고 크게 어렵진 않더라고요. 문제수가 좀 심하게 많아서 글치
[20:54] <DarkCircle> 무슨 토익시험마냥 ...
[20:55] <Work^Seony> 제 경험으로는, 장비를 "좀" 다룰 줄 아는 수준에서는 도저히 안되구요,
[20:55] <Work^Seony> 시스코 스위치 하나 갖다놓고 오만가지 세팅을 다 해본 경험이 있어야 알겠더라구요
[20:56] <DarkCircle> 전 시스코 장비를 학부때 다뤄봤는데
[20:56] <Work^Seony> 덤프 다 보고 시험볼 때쯤 되니까 스위치 처음 세팅할 때 설정하는 정도는 눈감고도 하는 수준 되겠더라구요
[20:56] <DarkCircle> 본딩이나 이런거 몇가지는 못해보고 터널링 라우팅(pre/post 포함) ...
[20:57] <DarkCircle> 방화벽 설정 ... 이런거?
[20:57] <Work^Seony> 다만, ccna는 그런 것들을 실제로 실습을 하는 차원보다는, 그게 뭔지 아냐 모르느냐를 테스트하는거라 더 어려웠떤거 같아요
[20:58] <DarkCircle> 과정 예시 툭 던져주고 뭘 설정하는건지 뭐에쓰는건지 조금 디테일하게 가긴 하더군요.
[20:59] <DarkCircle> 어디까지나 이론적인거라기보단 ... 기술의 용도랑 실무적인거에 더 포커스가 맞춰져 있어서 ...
[20:59] <Work^Seony> 여기 대학 수업 중에서도, 알제브라 바로 이전에 수학을 "말과 글"로 배우는 과목이 하나 있거든요. 애들 말로는 그게 실제 계산하는 수업보다 더 어려웠따네요 ㅋ
[20:59] <Work^Seony> 그런 면에서 보면, ccna는 실습보다는 이론 위주라 체감상 어려웠던 것 같아요
[21:00] <DarkCircle> 논리학 같은건가보네요
[21:00] <DarkCircle> 한국에선 그걸 수학시간에 안하고 국어시간에 하지만 ...
[21:00] <DarkCircle> (@)#*%@#)%*)
[21:00] <Work^Seony> 아뇨 논리는 아니에요
[21:01] <Work^Seony> 그러니까, 다차 방정식이나 다차 함수 풀만한 수학실력이 안되는 애들이, 그걸 수강하기 전에 듣는 과목이거든요
[21:01] <Work^Seony> 저도 안들어봐서 모르겠지만, 방정식을 말과 글로 배우는 거라 뭐가 뭔지 모르겠다고 하더라구요 ㅎㅎ
[21:02] <DarkCircle> 흠 -ㅅ- ...
[21:02] <DarkCircle> 그러면 뭐 증명과정쪽인가 ...
[21:02] <DarkCircle> 논리쪽이 아니라고 딱 잘라말할 수는 없는게
[21:03] <DarkCircle> 수학 수식 풀어나가는것도 논리전개거든요.
[21:03] <Work^Seony> 사칙연산 배운 애들이 방정식 들어가기 전에 배우는 거에요
[21:03] <DarkCircle> 논문 쓸 때 보면
[21:04] <DarkCircle> 수식을 쓰기 이전에 수식에 대한 설명을 글로 어떻게 풀어 설명하고 각 용어나 언어를 통해 언급한 부분을
[21:04] <DarkCircle> 어떤 기호나 문자로 바꿀지 체계적으로 언급하는 과정이 있거든요.
[21:05] <Work^Seony> 음... 대충 그런 식일듯 싶군요
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 문제에서 구하려는 수를 어쩌고 저쩌고 ~ 쭉 떠들면서
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 이야기를 쓴다음에
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 여기서 어떤수를 x 라고 하자. 라고 결론을 짓는데
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 이 결론짓기 이전의 과정이 논리적으로 흘러가죠.
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 문제가 있는데 그 문제에 대한 수식이 어떻게해서 y = 2x+1 이 나왔냐? 라고 묻는다면
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 그 이유를 설명할 줄 알아야 하는데 거기에 해당하는 딱 중간 과목일거예요.
[21:06] <Work^Seony> 네 그런거 같아요
[21:06] <Work^Seony> 암튼 그게 더 어려웠다는 학생들의 이야기를 많이 들었어요 ㅎㅎ
[21:07] <DarkCircle> 한국 애들은 초등학교때부터 지겹게 그런 문제를 보기 때문에 ㅋㅋ큐ㅠㅠㅠ
[21:07] <DarkCircle> 근데 실제로 논문을 써보라고 하면 -_-;
[21:07] <DarkCircle> 문제풀이는 잘하는데 논문에서 문제에 대한 설명과 수식 모델 제시가 .. 잘 안되죠.
[21:09] <Work^Seony> ccnp 곧 시작해야하는데, 살짝 걱정되네요
[21:09] <DarkCircle> ccnp 는 한국에 덤프가 별로 없을거 같은 냄새가나는데
[21:09] <Work^Seony> 덤프 외우는 거야 뭐 걍 무턱대고 외우기만 하면 되겠지만, 시뮬 난이도가 꽤 된다네요
[21:09] <Work^Seony> 게다가 덤프로 자격증 따도 되나 싶기도 하고...
[21:09] <DarkCircle> ccna라면 모를까 ccnp 는 또 따는 사람이 그렇게 많지가 않으니까요 ㄱ-;
[21:10] <Work^Seony> 그래요? 의외네요
[21:10] <Work^Seony> 미국에서는 요즘 cissp라는 자격증이 대세거든요
[21:10] <Work^Seony> 대세라고 말하기 좀 그렇긴하지만, 암튼 요즘 이 자격증 갖고있는 사람 찾는 회사들이 많아요
[21:13] <DarkCircle> cissp를 따려면 그 전에 차근차근 따둬야 하는게 있지 않나요? 크크크.
[21:13] <Work^Seony> 몇문제 살짝 봤는데, 한 번에 볼 수 있는 그런 시험은 아닌거 같았어요 ㅎㅎ
[21:16] <DarkCircle> 그 이전에 어느정도 선행 과정을 밟아야 하는거네요 .
[21:38] <Work^Seony> 아 이거 조낸 웃기네요 http://www.dogdrip.net/index.php?mid=dogdrip&sort_index=popular&page=3&document_srl=84323776
[21:47] <DarkCircle> 옐프가 한국사람이 만든 사이트였군요
[21:47] <DarkCircle> (새삼?)
[21:47] <Work^Seony> 아닐껄요
[21:47] <Work^Seony> 위키 보면 이름이 아예 서양 이름인데요..
[21:48] <Work^Seony> Two former PayPal employees, Jeremy Stoppelman and Russel Simmons, founded Yelp
[21:48] <Work^Seony> 라고 나와있네요
[21:50] <DarkCircle> 아 잠시 컨텍스트를 잘못 짚었 ...
[21:50] <Work^Seony> 요즘 옐프의 위상이 하늘을 찌르기 때문에, 한국사람이 만들진 않았을 겁니다 ㅋ
[21:50] <DarkCircle> http://m.chosun.com/svc/article.html?sname=news&contid=2015112600102
[21:51] <Work^Seony> 걍 개발자네요
[21:51] <DarkCircle> 네 그냥 직원이죠 ㅋㅋ
[21:51] <DarkCircle> 잠시 재부팅좀 하고 올께요.
[21:51] <DarkCircle> wine 에 뭘좀 올려서 한다고 한글 입력이 안돼서 약간 삽질을 했는데 여전히 안되네요 .
[21:52] <DarkCircle> nabi 설정이 꼬여서 ..
[23:47] <autowiz> http://www.dogdrip.net/index.php?mid=dogdrip&sort_index=popular&document_srl=85613241&page=1
[23:47] <autowiz> 이거 살짝 재미있는데요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[23:47] <autowiz> tx rx 의 중요성
[23:47] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 아까 봤어요
[23:49] <DarkCircle> http://cheezburger.com/687365/funny-low-cost-cosplay 저렴한 코스프레.
[23:50] <autowiz> http://www.coupang.com/np/products/92222683?eventCategory=SRP&eventLabel=all_3 ㅋㅋㅋ 종이로 된것도 나왔어요
[23:53] <Work^Seony> 예전에 구글에서 만든거 아닌가요?
[23:54] <autowiz> 저렴한 코스프레 아이디어는 독특하네요 ㅎㅎ
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.242471
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-release
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[00:00] <doko> any idea about the installation issues here in update_output? gdc-5-arm-linux-gnueabi, gdc-5-arm-linux-gnueabihf, gdc-5-multilib-arm-linux-gnueabihf, gdc-arm-linux-gnueabihf
[12:03] <tjaalton> infinity: hrm, for lts-wily, newer mesa needs newer libvdpau (>= 1.1).. would it be ok to consider backporting that too (like libdrm now), seems to have the same soname at least
[12:04] <tjaalton> the other option would be to revert adding HEVC support to the vdpau state tracker
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.251926
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-motu
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[01:36] <benstrumental> Should the default (i.e. built from dhmake) debian/rules files call 'make' in my source directory to build the binary?
[01:36] <benstrumental> I am having trouble getting my .deb built with the binary included (dh is not calling 'make' is my suspicion)
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.252864
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2015-11-25-#lubuntu
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[03:00] <eipi10> is having bad reallocated sectors a big deal?
[03:06] <eipi10> heard of any false positives with 14.04?
[11:14] <cimbakahn> I am having a major problem with Lubuntu. See here ----> https://paste.teknik.io/2444
[11:15] <cimbakahn> I have no idea what to do about this. All suggestions will be appreciated.
[11:16] <bioterror> really?
[11:16] <bioterror> lubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[11:16] <bioterror> it can be removed
[11:16] <bioterror> it's mainly used to pull in all the neccessary packages needed for the "whole" Lubuntu experience
[11:18] <cimbakahn> But if lubuntu-desktop is removed it will take out lubuntu-core with it!
[11:18] <bioterror> yeah
[11:19] <bioterror> lubuntu-core is used when installing the basic lubuntu packages
[11:19] <cimbakahn> If it takes out the core, i will have a broken system, correct?
[11:20] <bioterror> it's just a package that has "few" dependencies
[18:49] <Vlado2> Hi, i have created a trouble ticket #1516616 on launchpad about a bug that prevents me to install lubuntu, but even after several weeks nobody gives a ... about that bug, any idea how to improve that bug report to attract some dev?
[18:52] <wxl> bug 1516616
[18:53] <wxl> Vlado2: i must say your bug is terribly confusing as it seems to relate to many problems, not just one.
[18:56] <Vlado2> i guess i can remove the sentence that 14,04 didn't recognize my wifi card as it is not related
[18:56] <wxl> and the other ones afterwards? as they suggest you CAN boot
[18:57] <Vlado2> i can boot only 14.04
[18:57] <Vlado2> 15.10 and xenial early builds can't boot
[18:58] <wxl> can't boot or take a long time to boot?
[18:59] <Vlado2> the bootup process is extremely slow, and it will eventually crash due to multiple errors during bootup (as mentioned in the bug report, like failed to insert module kdbus, failed to star load kernel modules)
[18:59] <wxl> these don't seem to be a problem based on testing. you say you checked the md5sum *AND* checked the media at the grub screen?
[19:00] <wxl> aww you're so mexican
[19:00] <Vlado2> yes, i checked the media at the menu
[19:01] <Vlado2> i beg you pardon!
[19:01] <wxl> ooops! wrong channel!!!!!
[19:01] <wxl> but were i to have directed that at you, don't take offense, as mexicans are very nice :)
[19:01] <wxl> anyways, did you check the md5 BEFORE you booted?
[19:02] <Vlado2> yes i did
[19:02] <wxl> that is utterly bizarre
[19:02] <wxl> afaik no testing has resulted in similar errors
[19:03] <wxl> have you tried different media? maybe usb rather than dvd?
[19:03] <Vlado2> after booting a menu shows up... install lubuntu, try Live, check CD and mem test
[19:03] <wxl> and you did "check CD." but did you check the md5 of the .iso image before burning it?
[19:04] <Vlado2> the medium is OK, i used the same one to try 14.04 and xenial early build
[19:05] <Vlado2> i checked everything, verified sha256 of the iso, check pgp signature of the sha256, then verification after burning and then check cd from the lubuntu menu
[19:05] <wxl> ok, did you try a different media?
[19:06] <Vlado2> no, but from that same media 14.04 worked
[19:06] <wxl> that's irrelevant
[19:06] <Vlado2> i have troubles beleiveing in that, why would then the CD check from lubuntu menu came as OK
[19:06] <Vlado2> ?
[19:07] <wxl> Vlado2: well, by the same logic, why would other people's tests succeed?
[19:07] <Vlado2> different HW?
[19:07] <wxl> …where yours failed
[19:07] <wxl> right
[19:07] <wxl> and that's what i'm suggesting
[19:07] <wxl> try different hardware (media)
[19:07] <Vlado2> did anyone tried Pentium M dothan?
[19:08] <Vlado2> i already tried to boot 15.10 on different machine and it booted just fine, i just came to different problem
[19:08] <Vlado2> bug #1516605
[19:09] <wxl> oh pentium m!
[19:09] <wxl> pentium m may be problematic. did you forcepae?
[19:10] <wxl> !pae | Vlado2
[19:11] <Vlado2> even on i386 builds???
[19:11] <wxl> yuuup.
[19:12] <Vlado2> let me try that, i'll get back to you in a minute...
[19:12] <Vlado2> more like 30 minutes... :)
[19:40] <Guest2> 14.04.3 Why is i get this message when i look for updates ? Failed to download repository information
[19:42] <wxl> Guest2: likely either an issue contacting the server or a general networking/internet issue
[19:43] <Guest2> Sometimes i get this message.
[19:43] <wxl> Guest2: do you have a connection to the internet at those times?
[19:44] <Guest2> Yes..
[19:45] <Guest2> Is this about the same problem ? http://itsfoss.com/failed-to-download-repository-information-ubuntu-13-04/
[19:45] <wxl> Guest2: and can you give me the entirety of the output including the error in a pastebin?
[19:46] <wxl> Guest2: that may be the same problem, it might not. the totality of the output will tell us. either way, i'll help you fix it and help you learn how to read those errors to solve the problem youself in the future. ;)
[19:49] <Guest2> I am on another computer (windows) here and just finnish update the Lubuntu. I run it over again and then it works.. I dont have the output longer.
[19:49] <Guest2> It is true we learn when we read around.
[19:49] <wxl> Guest2: then it's likely a network issue. sometimes servers go down temporarily. little can be done to resolve that.
[19:50] <Guest2> Is Lubuntu update VLC and other programs also when there is any new not only firefox ?
[19:51] <wxl> Guest2: if you run an update, it will update any programs that have new versions for the current version of the operating system.
[20:29] <umdx> hi, how do i install the graphic driver for Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[20:30] <wxl> umdx: what makes you think you need it?
[20:30] <epictetus> i just installed the alpha/beta test version of lubuntu (16.04 opr whatever) and my brand-new intel Broadwell laptop had nice 3d support out of the box
[20:30] <epictetus> like intel-DRI etc for OpenGL was all automatically working
[20:30] <umdx> wxl i have the resolution but i lag watching videos
[20:30] <umdx> wxl and i tried chromium and Ff
[20:30] <epictetus> umdx: what kind of videos and what software are you using
[20:30] <epictetus> youtube?
[20:31] <umdx> twitch tv
[20:31] <wxl> umdx: do you have the same problems with static videos?
[20:31] <wxl> …cuz if not, the problem is likely not your drivers
[20:31] <umdx> no, only when watching games
[20:31] <epictetus> what CPU
[20:31] <umdx> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[20:31] <epictetus> twitch ads might just be using too much CPU
[20:31] <umdx> it doesnt lag on windows tho
[20:31] <epictetus> especially if it's using flash
[20:31] <epictetus> flash on linux can be waaay laggier / crashier / slower than windows even with Chrome
[20:32] <wxl> technically, adobe flash isn't even supported on linux.
[20:32] <epictetus> maybe try an ad blocker / flash blocker that lets you block everything except the video screen?
[20:32] <umdx> i have ad block on
[20:32] <epictetus> what CPU though
[20:32] <umdx> nvm
[20:32] <umdx> it lags only when i have it on source
[20:33] <umdx> me
[20:33] <umdx> meh
[20:33] <epictetus> hehe
[20:33] <umdx> what DE you guys use
[20:33] <epictetus> lxdw
[20:33] <epictetus> lxde
[20:34] <umdx> i installed i3 and was woindering something about the configs
[20:34] <wxl> that's what lubuntu is all about after all
[20:34] <umdx> for some reason it explodes when i try to copy someones style
[20:34] <wxl> ianorlin: Chicken_Wrap: don't you guys use i3 with lxde?
[20:35] <umdx> im thinking of changing pcmanfm
[20:35] <umdx> as well
[20:35] <umdx> probably installing ranger
[20:36] <Vlado2> wxl: back to that Petium M problem
[20:36] <Vlado2> forcing pae didn't help
[20:37] <wxl> Vlado2: then i'd try a usb and/or a different dvd and see if you can replicate
[20:37] <Vlado2> and btw. that problem mentioned on that web page affects only Banias cores, not Dothan as i have in laptop
[20:37] <wxl> Vlado2: barring that problem, it would be interesting to see if the same problem exists with other flavors like xubuntu, as otherwise it's not a lubuntu problem so much as an ubuntu one
[20:38] <Vlado2> well, that laptop booted just fine 14.04 from that same DVD drive and DVD medium (i use DVD+RW)
[20:41] <Vlado2> i can try ubuntu, but that will probably be the same story as Lubuntu
[20:44] <Vlado2> and btw. in the command line there are three dashes, not two as in that article
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.268625
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-pl
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[12:49] <zasek> hello
[12:50] <gjm> ekhm
[12:50] <zasek> znowu
[12:51] <gjm> co ciekawego powiesz?
[12:51] <zasek> teraz juz nic
[12:51] <zasek> bo mnie zbanujesz znowu
[12:52] <gjm> no
[12:52] <zasek> wiec popatrze sobie w ekran tylko
[12:54] <zasek> w te niesamowite rozmowy sobie popatrze jakie tu są
[12:54] <zasek> :)
[12:55] <jacekn> jacekowski: to jak hobbiton w chile maja?
[14:08] <jacekowski> jacekn: hobbiton w nowej zealandi
[14:08] <jacekowski> jacekn: ale w chile bylem po drodze do meksyku
[14:09] <jacekowski> i udalo im sie zgubic moja torbe
[14:09] <jacekowski> i co ciekawsze nie ta z alkoholem
[14:09] <jacekowski> i w meksyku ja jeszcze mieli bo ja musialem samemu przez granice przeniesc i odstawic do zaladowania
[14:10] <jacekowski> a w guadalajara juz nie bylo
[14:10] <jacekn> jacekowski: no tak myslalem z tym hobbitonem ale mowiles o chile i wkleiles linka do hobbitonu
[14:28] <jacekowski> jacekn: bo ja teraz robie londyn->singapur->christchurch->auckland->santiago->meksyk->londyn
[14:28] <jacekn> tyle dwutlenku wegla ;)
[14:29] <jacekowski> i na dodatek w biznes klasie
[14:29] <jacekowski> nawet dreamlinerem lecialem
[14:29] <jacekn> to jeszcze wiecej dwutlenku
[14:29] <jacekn> znaczy dreamliner nie
[18:05] <zasek> znowu
[18:54] <oskar_> Co się stało z ubuntu.pl?
[18:54] <Dread> chyba umarło
[18:56] <oskar_> dziś dopiero zauważyłem. Ale google pokazuje kopie z 23 listopada
[19:21] <firemark> wut :D
[19:33] <Ashiren> nikt nie uzywa ubuntu. taka prawda
[19:35] <firemark> mysle ze uzywaja. Ale juz nie jest łał jak 10 lat temu ;p
[20:22] <BlessJah> mnie zaskoczylo ze na distrowatch debian stoi wyzej od ubuntu
[20:22] <BlessJah> po raz pierwszy od dawna
[20:24] <Ashiren> moze wliczaja jego derivativy
[20:45] <BlessJah> nie, licza oddzielnie kazde distro
[20:46] <firemark> lol, pochodna z debiana
[20:47] <firemark> to chyba delta diraca musi byc przy nowej wersji distro :D
[20:50] <BlessJah> firemark: delta diraca to niewielka zmiana
[20:50] <firemark> BlessJah: delta diraca jest… dziwna
[20:51] <firemark> i trudno powiedziec ze niewielka… jej długość dąży do 0 a wysokość do +inf
[20:51] <BlessJah> czemu dziwna?
[20:51] <BlessJah> funkcja jak każda inna
[20:51] <BlessJah> firemark: wiem co to delta diraca
[20:52] <BlessJah> zacząłeś jakiś kurs z automatyki pewnie, mylę się?
[20:52] <firemark> nie, skończyłem studia 2 tygodnie temu
[20:52] <firemark> jestę magisterę
[20:52] <firemark> więc tak, spierdalaj :D
[20:53] <firemark> zwyczajnie mnie funkcja intrygowała i tyle
[20:53] <BlessJah> czyli uczyles sie do egzaminow :D
[20:56] <firemark> nah
[20:56] <firemark> nie chce mi sie naprawdę wkurwiać ;P
[20:57] <BlessJah> tak, idź poeksplorować dzisiejsze xkcd
[20:58] * BlessJah powinien wykopać za bluzgi
[20:58] <BlessJah> ale mam dzisiaj dobry dzień
[20:58] <firemark> oj, ja bym bez przekleństw nie mógłbym pracować
[20:58] <firemark> no chyba że bym miał kokainę
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.282960
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-kernel
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[10:12] <apw> crshman, right, they are raw builds, which arn't building, because upstream has yet to apply the fix, sigh
[11:10] * xnox doesn't like our kernels
[11:10] * xnox goes to fix
[11:11] <apw> xnox, ?
[11:11] <xnox> apw, is there a brand new way to checkout ubuntu linux trees? do i need to use launchpad, or can i use kernel.ubuntu.com?
[11:11] * xnox did not have the memo
[11:11] <xnox> apw, just packaging and user-space bits, nothing drastic.
[11:12] <apw> they are all in the original kernel.ubuntu.com place, though some of the newer ones are master in LP, and they are all available there too
[11:12] <xnox> apw, oh, and i've built the s390x kernel package... it didn't build me the kernel image / udebs. used 4.2.0-19.23
[11:13] <apw> xnox, how did you build it
[11:13] <xnox> apw, dpkg-buildpackage -b
[11:13] <xnox> it gave me source, doc, headers, tools-common, cloud-tools-common, and linux-libc-dev and that's it =(
[11:14] <apw> which branch of what repo ?
[11:14] <xnox> pull-lp-source linux =)
[11:14] <xnox> hence looking for repositories now ;-)
[11:14] <xnox> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git/ is out of date, so i need launchpad i guess.
[11:15] <apw> yep, then you will only get linux-libc-dev, that is a stage1 only build in the archive
[11:15] <apw> you need the ubuntu-xenial master-next to get anything mroe
[11:15] <xnox> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/xenial -> looks fresh
[11:15] <xnox> ack
[11:15] <apw> xnox, yes that is the official master for xenial
[11:15] <xnox> and i don't like the droppage of libunwind8-dev =)
[11:16] <apw> heh whyso ?
[11:16] <xnox> we should totally use elfutils which has unwind support on s390x
[11:16] <xnox> and like switch to it from libunwind throughout, because hipsters =)
[11:17] <apw> if you have the energy :) and being you you have a lot of that
[11:17] <xnox> well, my hands are tied, as llvm is building....
[11:18] <xnox> and there is one more llvm to build.
[11:23] * xnox should have done a shallow clone =(
[11:25] <apw> xnox, or a --reference linux-linus clone
[11:25] <xnox> that would have worked, if i were a kernel developer =)
[11:25] <apw> all serious developers have linux clone :)
[11:26] <apw> plus kernel.org's pipe is really fat
[11:29] <apw> xnox, you will need to touch some abi-ignore files into s390x as there are no s390x builds yet, chicken-egg-chicken
[11:29] <apw> xnox, echo 1 >debian.master/abi/4.3.0-0.7/ignore; echo 1 >debian.master/abi/4.3.0-0.7/ignore.modules
[11:29] <apw> else it will barf on you
[11:30] <apw> ass not that
[11:30] <apw> xnox, mkdir debian.master/abi/4.3.0-0.7/s390x; echo 1 >debian.master/abi/4.3.0-0.7/s390x/ignore; echo 1 >debian.master/abi/4.3.0-0.7/s390x/ignore.modules
[11:30] <apw> xnox, that
[11:31] <xnox> apw, you have access to a devirt ppa to test build things on all arches, right?
[11:31] <apw> xnox, yes
[13:23] <xnox> apw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1519820
[13:25] <apw> xnox, you can turn that off in debian.master/rules.d/s390x.mk do_zfs=false sort of thing
[13:25] <xnox> apw, tah, let me test that.
[13:25] * xnox will submit patches with all changes in the end.
[13:30] <apw> xnox, the build i did for infinity was against the 4.2 base, so i am not supprised you are seeing issues
[13:30] <apw> xnox, though it has been test built (other than zfs because that won't cross compile)
[13:41] <apw> xnox, and thanks
[13:41] <xnox> apw, in linux-image-extra there are:
[13:41] <xnox> -rw-r--r-- root/root 24590 2015-11-25 14:26 ./lib/modules/4.3.0-0-generic/kernel/drivers/s390/block/dasd_fba_mod.ko
[13:41] <xnox> -rw-r--r-- root/root 178446 2015-11-25 14:26 ./lib/modules/4.3.0-0-generic/kernel/drivers/s390/block/dasd_eckd_mod.ko
[13:41] <xnox> -rw-r--r-- root/root 190646 2015-11-25 14:26 ./lib/modules/4.3.0-0-generic/kernel/drivers/s390/block/dasd_mod.ko
[13:41] <xnox> -rw-r--r-- root/root 21502 2015-11-25 14:26 ./lib/modules/4.3.0-0-generic/kernel/drivers/s390/block/dasd_diag_mod.ko
[13:41] <xnox> ..
[13:41] <xnox> i think these are ought to move to linux-image, rather than stay in extra.
[13:42] <apw> that looks like it should be in linux-image as that is likley the disks :)
[13:42] <apw> xnox, concur
[13:42] <xnox> and i also want dasd-modules and dasd-modules-extra udebs
[13:42] <xnox> like in debian.
[13:42] <xnox> in debian they put:
[13:42] <xnox> -rw-r--r-- root/root 163968 2015-11-10 20:42 ./lib/modules/4.2.0-1-s390x/kernel/drivers/s390/block/dasd_mod.ko
[13:42] <xnox> -rw-r--r-- root/root 24896 2015-11-10 20:42 ./lib/modules/4.2.0-1-s390x/kernel/drivers/s390/block/dasd_fba_mod.ko
[13:42] <xnox> -rw-r--r-- root/root 179880 2015-11-10 20:42 ./lib/modules/4.2.0-1-s390x/kernel/drivers/s390/block/dasd_eckd_mod.ko
[13:42] <xnox> into dasd-modules udeb,
[13:42] <xnox> and the dasd_diag_mod.ko into dasd-modules-extra udeb.
[13:43] <xnox> not sure if that's worth the split or not.
[13:43] <xnox> apw, do you want a bug report for that, or shall I try to implement this udeb bit?
[13:43] <apw> i am happy to do it, but a bug would be nice
[13:43] <apw> the bit where an arch deviates from the norm is a bit messy to say the least
[13:44] <apw> xnox, for the instant i'd suggest adding them to the scsi-modules list and making that Provide: dasd-modules
[13:44] <apw> and then i can fix it properly slower
[13:45] <xnox> apw, cool. i kind of pre-emptively uploaded d-i that expects to find dasd-modules =)
[13:45] <xnox> due to monkey-see debian, monkey-do the same
[13:49] <xnox> apw, "patch" for disable of zfs -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1519820/comments/2
[13:49] <xnox> submitted trivial bug fix to upstream to fix spl, but not sure if want to carry that without zfs.
[13:49] <xnox> linked to from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1519814
[13:51] <apw> if that makes it build, we should likely get it tested by someone
[13:52] <apw> i am testing a fix for the udebs now, if you get my bug filed :)
[13:52] <xnox> apw, well that patch makes the "spl" bits build, but zfs bails out.
[13:52] <xnox> apw, yes sir.
[13:53] <apw> xnox, i guess we'll turn it off, and file a bug for someone to turn it back on once we get a machine we can boot
[13:55] <xnox> apw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1519833
[13:55] <xnox> apw, let me file a bug with s390x tag. As it will most likely be me again.
[13:56] * xnox will check priority on zfs work too.
[13:57] <xnox> ok, so this is looking lovely. If you give me a patch for udebs to have dasd modules, i should be in a position to spin up a test d-i build.
[13:58] <apw> xnox, building it again now, looking like it will work ...
[13:59] <xnox> \o/ =_
[13:59] <xnox> \o/ =)
[13:59] <apw> xnox, i'll push fixes for all of the above to the tree shortly
[13:59] <xnox> cool.
[14:09] * xnox goes to make an egg soup, whilst attempting to poach an egg.
[14:16] <apw> whoops
[14:47] <apw> xnox, ok ... i've pushed a quartet of changes to the tip of master-next for your issues
[14:51] <xnox> tah
[14:51] * xnox will finish figuring out how to unbreak xorg-gtk3-mir loop and will get back to that
[15:41] <xnox> apw, yo. very good it builds in sbuild without a hitch. Some typos though:
[15:41] <xnox> apw, s/dasd-modules-extra/dasd-extra-modules/ possibly my mistake, sorry about miss-leading you.
[15:41] <apw> bah
[15:41] <xnox> apw, and `dasd_mod.ko` ended up in both dasd-modules and the extra variant, that's a conflict.
[15:42] <apw> no that is normal
[15:42] <xnox> dasd-extra-modules should have just the dasd_diag_mod, and like depend on dasd-modules i guess.
[15:42] <xnox> oh, is it?
[15:43] <apw> hmmm, it may go away if it depends, i'll try that
[15:43] <apw> it is normal for all of the deps to end up in a module, but it may cope with interdeps
[15:43] <xnox> yeah it has: Depends: kernel-image-4.3.0-0-generic-di, storage-core-modules-4.3.0-0-generic-di
[15:43] <xnox> but needs the dasd-modules dependency too
[15:43] <apw> the extra is so small i think it might make sense to be merged
[15:43] <xnox> me too
[15:43] <xnox> kill the extra, and just stick it all into dasd-modules.
[15:44] <xnox> and i'm fine to keep this "divergence" from debian.
[15:44] <apw> i'll confirm the dep helps or not, if not, then i recon i will just wack it
[15:45] <xnox> cool.
[15:45] <xnox> it does build natively in a clean sbuild without any problems now. Thanks a lot =)
[15:46] * xnox compiles mir
[15:46] <apw> if i add a Provides: you would be covered anyhow i think
[15:51] <apw> xnox, ok ... i've forced master-next with the updated udeb names, getting the Depend: right has cleared out the duplicate
[15:52] <xnox> \o/
[15:52] <xnox> i will rebuild it again, after getting some chocolate.
[15:52] <apw> i've also fixed builds for !s390x too :)
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-tr
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[15:56] <TLG> Herkese merhabalar iyi ak?amlar arkada?lar
[16:03] <MaRQuE> merhaba
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu+1
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[00:10] <retrojeff> ohhhh pidgin was showing broken because I have a PPA enabled
[00:10] <retrojeff> disabled the PPA and now its fine
[00:28] <retrojeff> ok marking libautopilot-qt for upgrade
[00:28] <retrojeff> holy hell batman
[00:29] <retrojeff> like just that 1 package so many things depend on it
[00:31] <retrojeff> oh I am going about this backwords
[00:31] <retrojeff> I need to remove/purge packages that are not used it 16.04
[00:31] <retrojeff> and upgrade the rest
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[18:36] <retrojeff> ok so I am now running 16.10
[18:36] <retrojeff> most if not all my packages are up to date
[18:37] <retrojeff> after spending close to 5 hours resolving depends
[18:37] <retrojeff> ohhhhhhh 16.04 not 16.10
[18:37] <retrojeff> anyways every 5 min if I dont touch anything my screen will blank
[18:38] <retrojeff> and moving the mouse will return to the login screen
[18:38] <retrojeff> and xscreensaver is not running
[18:38] <retrojeff> bug #1
[18:38] <retrojeff> stupid bot hush
[18:39] <retrojeff> ./me slaps ubottu with a large trout
[18:39] <retrojeff> the 2nd problem is certain menus have odd boxes around them
[18:41] <retrojeff> I think both these issues are related to nvidia drivers
[18:46] <retrojeff> ok the blank screen thing its related to bbswitch
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-irc
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[01:43] <coolbhavi> hey guys
[01:44] <coolbhavi> I am Bhavani shankar and I'm an ubuntu member.. I just logged in using my nick and its registered but I'm not able to have ubuntu cloak on there
[01:46] <coolbhavi> can anyone please help me?
[01:59] <k1l_> coolbhavi: you need the ircc to confirm the cloak request.
[02:03] <coolbhavi> Thanks kll_ I am a member from 2007 and been a member of the cloaked irc team on LP too but this time when I logged in I realised my cloak was missing
[02:09] <k1l_> coolbhavi: your account is registered 28 minutes ago.
[02:09] <k1l_> maybe it got dropped due to not using it a long time or you changed the account?
[02:11] <coolbhavi> last time I used it a month back and due to my busy schedule I dropped off for past month or month and half and I couldnt identify so I registered again
[02:11] <coolbhavi> k1l_,
[02:14] <k1l_> only one not marked away from the ircc is hggdh, maybe he can confirm
[02:23] <coolbhavi> ok
[03:38] <hggdh> coolbhavi: what is your Launchpad id?
[03:49] * c is around for cloak requests
[03:51] <Unit193> c: Oh, oh, oh! Can I have a cooler one?!
[03:51] * Unit193 shuts it and hides.
[03:51] <c> don't be a Jason
[03:53] * Unit193 scratches head.
[03:53] <c> whois him
[03:54] <Unit193> Hah, wow.
[04:02] <hggdh> c: thanks. We ust need coolbhavi to tell us his LP id so that we can check
[04:02] <hggdh> s/ust/j&/
[04:02] <c> hggdh: aye, just ping me when all is set :)
[04:02] <hggdh> ack, thanks
[04:03] <k1l_> https://launchpad.net/~bhavi
[04:05] <hggdh> c: please set a cloak ubuntu/member/bhavi for coolbhavi
[04:06] <c> set :)
[04:06] <hggdh> c: in your debt
[04:06] <hggdh> coolbhavi: you are all set
[04:08] <c> anytime
[04:28] * nhandler still remembers when coolbhavi first earned that cloak :)
[13:07] <coolbhavi> thanks guys :)
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2015-11-25-#maas
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[07:40] <Xat`> hi guys
[07:43] <Xat`> anyone knows why I'm getting "Commissionning to failed commissionning", and in maas.log I have "Marking node failed: Node operation 'Commissioning' tmed out after 0:20:00"
[07:44] <Xat`> I tried to debug this during about 5 hours, unsuccessfully
[08:19] <Xat`> I have maas 1
[08:19] <Xat`> I have maas 1.7
[10:07] <mup> Bug #1519726 opened: Status ready but no RAM, Asus node <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519726>
[10:40] <mup> Bug #1519744 opened: code is showing in disk size field <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519744>
[12:34] <mup> Bug #1519804 opened: get_by_pxealias() is not stable <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519804>
[13:05] <mup> Bug #1519810 opened: cluser controller failing to detect interfaces on bootstrap <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519810>
[13:14] <mup> Bug #1519810 changed: cluser controller failing to detect interfaces on bootstrap <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519810>
[13:17] <mup> Bug #1519810 opened: cluser controller failing to detect interfaces on bootstrap <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519810>
[13:41] <mup> Bug #1519828 opened: [1.9] Support for static routes <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519828>
[14:02] <mup> Bug #1519832 opened: Proxing Region controller functions on Cluster controller <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519832>
[14:05] <Xat`> is maas designed to deplay VM/OS ?
[14:05] <Xat`> deploy*
[16:13] <Xat`> guys how to use maas with vmware vm ?
[16:40] <LoRez> Xat`: Seems like you could script up a way to get vmware to create VMs that would network boot
[18:06] <Xat`> LoRez: can I use virsh with libvirt esx support ?
[18:38] <mup> Bug #1519744 changed: code is showing in disk size field <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519744>
[18:48] <LoRez> Xat`: no clue.
[19:11] <mup> Bug #1519918 opened: "failed to detect a valid IP address" when trying to view node details <MAAS:Triaged> <MAAS 1.9:New> <MAAS trunk:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519918>
[19:11] <mup> Bug #1519919 opened: MAAS Look for NIC with kernel module loaded and fall back doesn't check presistent device names <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519919>
[20:12] <mup> Bug #1519936 opened: re-commissioning just to reset partition scheme is overkill <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519936>
[20:27] <mup> Bug #1519936 changed: re-commissioning just to reset partition scheme is overkill <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519936>
[20:30] <mup> Bug #1519936 opened: re-commissioning just to reset partition scheme is overkill <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519936>
[20:42] <mup> Bug #1519936 changed: re-commissioning just to reset partition scheme is overkill <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519936>
[20:51] <mup> Bug #1519943 opened: Upgrade from 1.8 left stale devices in the UI? <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519943>
[20:54] <mup> Bug #1519943 changed: Upgrade from 1.8 left stale devices in the UI? <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519943>
[20:57] <mup> Bug #1519943 opened: Upgrade from 1.8 left stale devices in the UI? <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519943>
[22:03] <mup> Bug #1519527 opened: 1.25.1 proposed: lxc units all have the same IP address <openstack> <sts> <uosci> <juju-core:Triaged> <MAAS:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS 1.9:Triaged by mpontillo> <MAAS trunk:Triaged by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1519527>
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-fi
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[15:07] <elias_a> Onko tietoa Telegram-sovelluksesta, joka osaisi myös secret chatin?
[15:16] <Maakuth> ei niiden krypto ilmeisesti ole oikein kohdallaan
[15:18] <Maakuth> tai siis suhtautuvat sellaisella asenteella, että siitä ei tyypillisesti hyvää seuraa. itse keksityt epätavalliset tavat käyttää kryptoprimitiivejä ja ylimielinen suhtautuminen kritiikkiin
[15:18] <Maakuth> ja sitten se, että ei ole defaulttina päällä
[15:19] <Maakuth> ja olikohan vielä että group chatteihin ei ole edes mahdollista kytkeä päälle
[15:19] <Maakuth> signal vaikuttaa paremmalta
[15:44] <elias_a> Onko siitä myös kännysovelluksia esim. Androidille?
[15:44] <tathhu> Mobiiliappi osaa secret chatin
[15:44] <tathhu> Androidilla ainakin, desktopversio taas ei :l
[15:45] <elias_a> No voihan...
[15:47] <Maakuth> ei signalia voi kai käyttää ilman kryptoa?
[15:54] <Mirv> telegram on ihan jees vaihtoehto jos haluaa kelle tahansa ehdottaa Whatsappille parempaa korviketta. usein mitä turvallisempi sen hankalampi käyttää ja sen vähemmän massapotentiaalia
[15:54] <Mirv> Whatsapp erikseen sulkee käyttäjiä ulos, Telegramille on avoimet clientit joten sitä voi sentään käyttää, plus että se on kaikin puolin yhtä helppo kuin Whatsapp. bonuksena secret chatit ovat ihan säädyllisen salattuja, mutta mielestäni oleellisin juttu on se että se on vaihtoehto Whatsappille.
[15:55] <Mirv> Telegramilla on kuitenkin yli 100 miljoonaa käyttäjää joten se on ihan skaalautuva ja potentiaalia on.
[15:56] <Mirv> Maakuth: varsinaisesti sentään kyse ei ole "hei keksin itse", vaan enempi se oli "hei laitetaan kaikkea turhaa päälle hämäämään mutta oikeasti kyseessä on xyz"
[15:56] <Mirv> Telegram on ihan riittävä secret chatilla aika moneen käyttöön, etenkin jos ajattelee että ihmiset käyttää Whatsappiakin
[15:57] <Maakuth> okei joo, no hyvä
[15:57] <Maakuth> en ole tarkemmin tutkinut. whatsappiahan sitä itsekin paljolti tulee käytettyä, kun se on niin laajasti tavoittava
[15:58] <Mirv> ei oo laitteita jossa whatsappia saisi käyttää... voisi kyllä, clientitkin on, whatsapp vaan kieltää
[16:00] <Maakuth> aivan
[16:12] <Thaurwylth> Pystyykö sitä käyttämään myös kielletyillä tavoilla?
[16:13] <Thaurwylth> Lähinnä Bluestacks tulee mieleen.
[16:39] <tathhu> Reverse-engineeraa vähä
[16:39] <tathhu> Sit napsuu bannia
[18:16] <Thaurwylth> Niin siis näinkö käy, juuh elikkäs toinen vaihtoehto ei käy? Siis ihan oikeasti kyselen. Nimittäin on paljonkin semmoisia juttuja, mitä ei jollakin digitaalisella järjestelmällä saisi tehdä, mutta kumminkin pystyy tekemään, ja sitten toisinaan sitä ei edes kauhean tosissaan valvota.
[18:25] <puhuri> eikös watsappi juuri tunnista jostain pienistä eroista epäviralliset asiakasohjelmat ja kun on päättänyt että toisen osapuolen softia ei saa käyttää niin bannataan
[18:26] <puhuri> maksetaanko se sovelluksen ostolla vai mikä siinä on se rahastusmalli? (en ole itse käyttänyt)
[18:26] <Maakuth> in-app purchasella, mutta ei siitä kyllä juuri kukaan maksa
[18:34] <Thaurwylth> Isojen sovellusten mobiilimaailma on kyllä bisnesmallin puolesta jotakin semmoista settiä, että sitä ei vähäisempi mies ihan heti järjellä käsitäkään.
[18:36] <tathhu> puhuri, jotain tällästä t Jolla
[18:36] <Thaurwylth> Facebookin alias Vaihekirjan ostamat näennäisesti ilmaiset sovellukset perustuvat vissiin jotenkin siihen, että omistaja käyttää niitä ihav vitum moiseed datal louhintaan. Sitten sitä hyödynnetään emosovelluksessa, missä onkin jo jonkinlainen bisnesmalli paikallaan.
[18:37] <Thaurwylth> Mutta tosiaan tuo ei vielä oikein vastannut siihen, onko Bluestacks kieltolistalla. Nimittäin Bluestaks taitaa olla jollakin mystisellä tavalla ihan luvallinen Android-kampe. Sen takana on monen ison yhtiön säätiö, joukossa virallisia Android-toimijoita.
[18:38] <Thaurwylth> Toisaalta tiedetään myös, että joidenkin asioiden saaminen toimimaan siinä on ihan kauhean tuskan takana, mikä tuntuu puolestaan epäilyttävältä, jos ne oikeasti haluaisivat tukea sitä. Hnmm.
[18:38] <tathhu> Siis eikai sillä mitään väliä ole millä Android-koneella sitä ajaa kunhan käyttää sitä virallista clienttiä
[18:38] <Thaurwylth> Aaaa, OK.
[18:39] <Thaurwylth> Tosin joillakin firmoilla on vissiin puolestaan tarkoituksena vakaasti estää ihmisiä käyttämästä softaa muuten kuin puhelimella. En osaa sanoa, miten se estetään.
[18:39] <Thaurwylth> Omasta kokemuksesta tiijän, että Instagramin osalta ovat onnistuneet puoliksi.
[18:47] <Max^> eikös toi yks bannattu ku se levitti sitä ohjelmaansa
[18:47] <Max^> voi varmaan tehdä mut ei antaa muille
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.331091
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"Maakuth",
"Max^",
"Mirv",
"Thaurwylth",
"elias_a",
"puhuri",
"tathhu"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-fi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-unity
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[10:38] <pstolowski> mzanetti, hey! were you able to confirm it was your test scope causing freezes?
[10:39] <mzanetti> pstolowski, not yet, had to do something else, but I'll retry in a bit
[10:39] <pstolowski> ok
[14:15] <Guest552342> hi all, i am running unity8 fake on x11 but hoverEnabled: true doesn't seem to work
[15:00] <tsdgeos> Guest552342: in which context it doesn't work?
[15:05] <Guest552342> WindowsControlButtons.qml / i have hoverEnabled: true but i get logs from onEntered only when i click the area
[15:06] <Guest552342> tsdgeos, ^^
[15:07] <Guest552342> also propagateComposedEvents: true doesn't seem to work
[15:13] <tsdgeos> Guest552342: that's defenitely weird, don't have much expertise on WindowsControlButtons.qml though, not sure if they're doing something that would make hoverEnabled not work
[15:15] <Guest552342> tsdgeos, or maybe i'm doing something wrong :D nevermind :P thanks
[15:18] <ltinkl> Guest55Aw, check this how to do it: https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/newWindowDecosAndPanel
[15:19] <ltinkl> Guest55Aw, basically you need to (visually) nest the hover-enabled MouseAreas to get the desired effect
[15:22] <Guest55Aw> thanks ltinkl :D i'll take a look at your code later
[16:32] <mzanetti> lpotter, hey, fyi, I asked our sdk guys to give the inputinfor api a look.
[16:33] <mzanetti> they have some very good comments, I will ask them to leave them on gerrit
[16:33] <mzanetti> so if you wonder who those guys are, now you know :)
[17:07] <mterry> mzanetti, my tutorial redesign branch got approved by patriciadavila. So if you want to re-review or hand off to someone else, it should be good to go (not to land yet, just to be approved for now)
[17:07] <mzanetti> mterry, ack
[17:08] <mterry> Saviq, patriciadavila says that she has some SIM PIN unlock redesign plans coming down the pipeline. I'm happy to take that on (I've done *something* in that area in the past), but if you'd like to assign elsewhere, let me know and I can tell her who to talk to
[18:37] <lpotter> mzanetti: ok. thank you
[18:39] <Saviq> mterry, one thing there is with notification/dialog redesign, the UI code for those will likely move out of unity8, but we might do the changes here for now and when they move out, they can move out new
[18:39] <mterry> Saviq, ah I haven't been tracking that redesign
[18:39] <Saviq> mterry, I probably meant refactor more than redesign
[18:41] <mterry> Saviq, I figured :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.336382
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"Guest552342",
"Guest55Aw",
"Saviq",
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"ltinkl",
"mterry",
"mzanetti",
"pstolowski",
"tsdgeos"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-unity.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntustudio
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[02:15] <bangho> Hi!! anybody there?
[02:19] <bangho> i'm trying to install drumgizmo manually but i can't do it yet... has anybody do it? thanks!
[02:22] <bangho> i already follow the common instructions (configure, make, etc...) but does not work
[02:22] <raovlf> hi
[02:23] <bangho> hi
[02:23] <raovlf> bye
[02:23] <bangho> ok
[03:00] <OvenWerk1> Yup built drumgizmo... but you are gone already...
[03:49] <craigbass76> What are you folks using to get from instrument to computer? We just had a Mackie HDR crap out, and I'm looking to replace it with a linux box, but I'm not sure what I need to get from our analog mixer (the individual channels) into the computer.
[05:01] <bigwolf78> Hello?
[05:02] <bigwolf78> Can anyone help me with some shell scripting questions that I have?4
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.338242
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"OvenWerk1",
"bangho",
"bigwolf78",
"craigbass76",
"raovlf"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntustudio.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[10:25] <rmg51> Morning
[11:23] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:33] <rmg51> o/
[13:18] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[15:15] <ChinnoDog> morning
[17:03] <ChinnoDog> https://baconsalt.3dcartstores.com/Bacon-Scented-Underwear-Pillowcases_c_112.html
[17:25] <lazypower> Thank you internet
[17:25] <lazypower> I didn't beleive it was actually a thing... then i clicked the link.
[17:33] <ChinnoDog> Time to buy those stocking stuffers.
[18:00] <ChinnoDog> Today I learned that the community gathering space is the "third place". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place
[18:26] <MutantTurkey> waltman: this is the most dangerous day of the year
[18:43] <ChinnoDog> For turkeys?
[18:45] <waltman> Mutant turkeys especially.
[19:22] <MutantTurkey> yes sir
[20:10] <teddy-dbear> at least teddy bears are safe
[21:29] <waltman> this time of year they're getting ready to hibernate
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.340223
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"ChinnoDog",
"JonathanD",
"MutantTurkey",
"lazypower",
"rmg51",
"teddy-dbear",
"waltman"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-us-pa.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-pa"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-gr
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[16:15] <ekamiths> Γεια σας, μήπως ξέρει κανείς πως μπορώ να κάνω hotspot στα linux αλλά να μεταδίδει το σήμα που παίρνω από το wifi όπως με το baidu στα windows?
[18:01] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2818-1: OpenJDK 7 vulnerability <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2818-1/>
[20:22] <jemadux> linux_salonica: make me a sandwich
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.344437
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Euaki",
"ekamiths",
"jemadux"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-gr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:28] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[09:04] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:18] <davidcalle> dholbach, can you log in to https://developer.staging.ubuntu.com? Do you see a draft on the home page?
[10:20] <dholbach> I can't log in - I go through SSO, but it doesn't show me the admin/pages options
[10:21] <dholbach> ah now it does
[10:21] <dholbach> maybe caching
[10:21] <dholbach> yes, I see legos
[10:21] <dholbach> but I can't publish
[10:22] <dholbach> I need to run now - see you later
[10:29] <davidcalle> dholbach, np, thanks :)
[10:54] * davidcalle -> lunch
[15:05] <balloons> ping jose
[15:30] <popey> I'm going afk shortly, school parents evening then out tonight, if anyone needs anything drop me a mail and I'll deal with it when I'm back or tomorrow o/
[16:03] <davidcalle> dpm, dholbach, balloons, mhall119, joining in 2 min
[16:44] <balloons> popey, did you ask anyone from the design team about GCI? If not, who might we be able to ask?
[16:45] <balloons> ping jose
[17:05] <dholbach> see you tomorrow! :)
[21:58] <czajkowski> zergless: aloha
[21:59] <zergless> o/
[21:59] <czajkowski> balloons: mhall119 zergless here has some questions about the mentor program
[21:59] <czajkowski> can you guys help with answering :)
[21:59] <czajkowski> please
[21:59] <balloons> zergless, hello
[21:59] <balloons> what's your question?
[22:06] <zergless> was wondering about info for students to part take?
[22:06] <zergless> any info on how we get a mentor?
[22:06] <zergless> or where we can see the task?
[22:06] <zergless> tasks
[22:09] <balloons> zergless, the contest begins on dec 7th
[22:09] <balloons> until then, there isn't anything yet for you as a student
[22:09] <balloons> make sure you are registered and all ready to go
[22:09] <balloons> you will see ubuntu tasks when things officially open
[22:10] <zergless> Cool wheres the rteg link? :)
[22:13] <balloons> https://codein.withgoogle.com
[22:17] <wxl> hey folks. do you guys have any private cc-only documents stored somewhere? i'm trying to think of what might be the best solution for the lc for something similar
[22:23] <czajkowski> wxl: we had our own trello board
[22:24] <wxl> czajkowski: yeah for TODOs that would make sense. i was thinking more HOWTO
[22:25] <zergless> balloons: ty :)
[22:28] <czajkowski> wxl: howtos can be public
[22:29] <wxl> yeah i guess that's true. it's not like we're going to put passwords in it
[22:30] <zergless> hunter2 :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.348769
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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"balloons",
"czajkowski",
"davidcalle",
"dholbach",
"popey",
"wxl",
"zergless"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-community-team.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-community-team"
}
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-hr
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[07:29] <jelly> jutro http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x244ch9_cacadou-look-baum-bam-bam-1989_music
[07:34] <hbogner> o/
[07:37] <BotaniCar> Jutro
[07:37] <BotaniCar> Cijelo prijepodne traži poslovođa jednog radnika - ali njega nigdje...
[07:37] <BotaniCar> Tek negdje oko podneva on naleti na njega.
[07:37] <BotaniCar> - Pa gdje si ti, cijeli dan te tražim?!!!
[07:37] <BotaniCar> - Eeee, šefe, danas je teško naći dobrog radnika!
[07:40] <jelly> /o\
[07:40] <BotaniCar> baombambam
[07:43] <BotaniCar> http://38.media.tumblr.com/3a035751eec10fa99d842f4fab9e90ae/tumblr_nkrsxbpAVv1qb1bi1o1_400.gif # technicaly, SFW :)
[07:53] <pkiller> BotaniCar: sad će mi dan biti puno sisatiji
[07:53] <BotaniCar> :D
[07:55] <jelly> bitno da je stabilizirano
[07:55] <BotaniCar> Da, netko se potrudio :D
[07:57] <hbogner> BotaniCar, hvaalaa od svih u uredu :D
[07:58] <BotaniCar> hbogner: :)))))))))))))))
[07:58] <BotaniCar> Kaj su ovi normalni ( http://m.tportal.hr/gadgeterija/405996/Zagreb-krece-u-otvoreni-rat-protiv-Ubera.html ) nesmijes vise ni pokloniti uslugu nekom ? :)
[08:28] <BotaniCar> https://www.facebook.com/213396198733416/videos/987382381334790/ # ovak' ja kuham :)
[08:29] <dodobas> yutro
[08:36] <dodobas> da bas ... https://fair.io/ Fair Source License
[08:36] <dodobas> hahaha
[08:40] <pkiller> kako dodajem iz komande "deb https://weechat.org/raspbian jessie main" sa add-apt-repository ? ili ga samo ubacim u fajl?
[08:41] <jelly> > while retaining the ability to charge for the software # er, what
[08:41] <BotaniCar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3wGfZma_uk # skoro sam umro :)
[08:41] <datase> YouTube: Akcija Stadion1.mp4 - 0:00:49 - 4066 views - 16 likes / 0 dislikes
[08:42] <dodobas> jelly: pa e ... totalna glupost...
[08:44] <obruT> dodobas: imas primjer nego sw-a koji koristi tu licencu ?
[08:48] <dodobas> obruT: naravno da nemam, naletio na internetima ...
[08:48] <dodobas> kao OSI approved ... nesto
[08:49] <dodobas> http://opensource.org/licenses/Fair
[08:51] <jelly> uh... to nije ista licenca.
[08:52] <dodobas> nije ?
[08:54] <jelly> fairlicense.org ima 2 recenice u kriz, a fair.io ima ekran teksta
[08:55] <dodobas> a fak, sori... nisam otvarao linkove
[09:03] <Mmike> jebem ti amerikance
[09:03] <Mmike> i mene debila koji ne cita vijesti
[09:07] <vileni_> Mmike: di si zapeo? i sta nismo jucer o tome pricali? :)
[09:07] <vileni_> ja sam dosao na posao sat i pol ranije
[09:09] <Mmike> ma
[09:09] <Mmike> zaboravio sam
[09:09] <Mmike> ja i jos 1001 debil
[09:09] <Mmike> i nemres se maknut
[09:09] <vileni_> s moje strane je bilo sasvim ok, zato sto su svi valjda zapeli na drugoj strani :)
[09:11] <obruT> na biciklu je zato bilo zakon :)
[09:11] <BotaniCar> 'el ima jos jeftinije od http://www.m-computers.hr/canon-skener-lide-220-4800x4800dpi48bit/can-sc-lide220/product/, a da radi na linuxu , i radit' ce jos godinu-dvje ?
[09:12] <Mmike> vileni_: pa ti nisi moro prelazit grad :)
[09:13] <vileni_> obruT: razmisljao sam i o tome
[09:13] <vileni_> ali ne
[09:13] <dodobas> Mmike: a jesi se sjetio ? :)
open http://www.theguardian.com/international and look at the html source ;-)
[09:14] <Mmike> dodobas: ne :(
[09:15] <Mmike> jelly: he he :)
[09:16] <dodobas> Mmike: a da ja jednostavno dodjem ispred tvoj zgrade... veceras ? :)
[09:18] <Mmike> dodobas: i to bi moglo :) mosh doc i gore, cuvam dete, zena osla u inostranstvo ;)
[09:20] <dodobas> Mmike: javim se... imam danas dogadjanja na faksu do 21h...
[09:21] <Mmike> moze
[09:21] <Mmike> ak se ne javim odmah, uspavljujem dete
[09:22] <dodobas> Mmike: ok, samo stavi mobitel na najglasnije, da me cujes :)
[09:23] <Mmike> lol :D
[09:23] <BotaniCar> Uspavljuje dete, mosh misliti kak ce mobitel biti na icem doli vibri :D
[09:23] <Mmike> nit na vibri :)
[09:23] <Mmike> BotaniCar: btw
[09:23] <Mmike> BotaniCar: jucer sam win7 instaliravao, doma, u kvm virtualku
[09:23] <Mmike> 'checking for updates' trajalo oko sat vremena
[09:24] <Mmike> i onda je skinuo 700 MB i instaliravo ih oko 2 sata
[09:24] <Mmike> a na SSDovima na raid0
[09:24] <Mmike> sad si mislim da mi je mozda .iso potrgan
[09:24] * Mmike ide skinut cisti s Micro$oft.com
[09:24] <BotaniCar> :) Ja samo znam da na ovih par windowsa kaj jos imam , nemam tih problema :)
[09:25] <BotaniCar> Dobro, jel itko odrzava Ubuntu Wiki , ili je i to na volonterskoj bazi pa kak mi se posreci ?
[09:25] <Mmike> BotaniCar: mosh mi skinut? naime, trazi me key: https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/software-download/windows7
[09:25] <Mmike> BotaniCar: ovo trece :)
[09:26] <BotaniCar> Mmike: ugasili smo MAPS pretplatu, nisam siguran da mogu :)
[09:26] <Mmike> hm
[09:27] <Mmike> al' nemrem nit jedne windowse skinit, ne sam 7
[09:27] <vileni_> Mmike: nadji trial verziju, 90 dana je
[09:27] <Mmike> vileni_: kaj trial?
[09:27] <Mmike> mislis, trial key?
[09:27] <BotaniCar> Fakat, vise nisam autoriziran da downloadam nikaj s MS stranica
[09:27] <jelly> imam ja jedan kljuc... doma. Hm, cek, svaki PC tu ima naljepnicu
[09:28] <vileni_> Mmike: ma ne, ima za skinuti trial windows verzije
[09:28] <vileni_> samo sto ne nalazim win7, samo 8 i novije
[09:28] <Mmike> pa svaka win7 je trial verzija koja vrijedi 60 dana, ne?
[09:29] <Mmike> i nakon toga dobijem crni ekran i pise 'unregistered' i svako malo mi se minimiziraju svi prozori
[09:29] <vileni_> recimo
[09:31] <Mmike> recimo?
[09:31] <Mmike> kaj nijee da mosh .iso skinut sam tak
[09:31] <Mmike> i radi ti 30 dana
[09:31] <Mmike> ili 60
[09:31] <Mmike> ima tko .iso od win7? :D
[09:32] <BotaniCar> Mmike: msg
[09:32] <BotaniCar> ako bas dodje dotle, imam sprzen primjerak doma :)
[09:34] <dodobas> Mmike: https://dev.windows.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/linux/ ?
[09:36] <Mmike> dodobas: ha?
[09:36] <Mmike> dodobas: kaj je to?
[09:36] <Mmike> ah, vbox
[09:36] <Mmike> ne valja mi, treba mi .iso
[09:50] <jelly> 32 ili 64?
[09:52] <dodobas> a sto se ne skida windows.iso s nekog torrenta ?
[09:53] <jelly> da ne bi skinuo s torrenta i malware unutra odma
[09:53] <Mmike> 64
[09:53] <Mmike> precisely, nebi s torrenta
[09:54] <jelly> ah, nemam ni jedan pri ruci :-)
[09:54] <dodobas> pa ako je za test...
[09:57] <jelly> Mmike: bude za 15 minuta... 100Mbps mreza :-|
[09:57] <Mmike> ed15956fe33c13642a6d2cb2c7aa9749 X17-59186.iso
[09:57] <Mmike> jelly: aj md5sumni ak mosh
[09:57] <Mmike> jer imam ovaj koji sam pejstao gore
[09:57] <Mmike> al' kad s tog instaliram windowse onda se WindowsUpdate vuce k'o crknuta macka - a nisam siguran dal' sam mozda nesh nlite-slipstream-ovoono radio po tom isou
[09:57] <jelly> nije taj nego x15-65805
[09:57] <Mmike> eh
[09:57] <Mmike> taj nemam :)
[09:58] <jelly> WU se uwijek vuce
[09:58] <jelly> osim ak ga navuces da vuce sa lokalnog SCCM-a
[09:59] <Mmike> jelly: sat vremena za 'checking for updates' ?
[09:59] <Mmike> BotaniCar veli da to nije bas normalno
[09:59] <jelly> meni to traje po 15 minuta
[09:59] <jelly> ako ide s interneta jeli
[10:00] <Mmike> meni cuku vremena, iinstalirao jucer u kvm
[10:01] <Mmike> imam jos 2 .isoa, al' sam ih mudro nazvao win7sp1.iso i win7ultimate.iso
[10:01] <Mmike> medjutoa kvm se nece bootat s njih
[10:02] <jelly> ovaj se zove lijepo en_windows_7_professional_x64_dvd_x15-65805.iso
[10:02] <Mmike> jelly: mosh md5sumnit?
[10:03] <jelly> mogu, kad zavrsi pretakanje
[10:03] <Mmike> thnx
[10:04] <jelly> 7b7af5fe3a01e9fd76de4dacb45a796b /mnt/iso/en_windows_7_professional_x64_dvd_x15-65805.iso
[10:05] <Mmike> nop, nemam taj :)
[10:09] <vileni_> Mmike: pa pusti apdejte i radi bez njih :)
[10:09] <Mmike> vileni_: true :D
[10:16] <vileni_> ionako windows apdejti funkcioniraju tako, pustis sve da ti radi u pozadini, i onda kad je spreman gnjavi te dok ne odlucis restartati
[10:16] <vileni_> ili ti sam restarta ako nisi pri racunalu dovoljno dugo da mu kazes da ne zelis
[10:17] <vileni_> ili sto mi je win10 napravio, usred posla zakljucio da ce se restartati za par minuta, i onda je napravio to, bez mogucnosti odgode
[10:17] <Mmike> da, iamm dobar iso
[10:17] <Mmike> http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/
[10:19] <Mmike> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wiki/windows_7-windows_install/how-to-obtain-a-windows-7-iso-file-to-create-an/59ef6586-f881-40b7-9070-e7950e057143
[10:19] <Mmike> ok, enough time wasted
[10:19] <jelly> Mmike: onda ti ovaj iso ne treba?
[10:20] <ivoks> i tak net.hr veli da je su-24 ponos ruskog zrakoplovstva
[10:20] <Mmike> jelly: treba treba!
[10:20] <jelly> Mmike: msg
[10:20] <ivoks> majke mi mile, novinare treba poceti trpati u zatvor
[10:20] <Mmike> jelly: yup yup
[10:20] <Mmike> jelly: thnx!
[10:21] <jelly> ah, "OEM key will not work" :-|
[10:21] <Mmike> ivoks: koji je, po tebi, avijon ponos njihovog zrakoplovstva?
[10:21] <Mmike> jelly: ne treba mi key
[10:21] <ivoks> Mmike: pa sigurno ne oni napravljeni 1960ih
[10:22] <ivoks> Mmike: su 34, su 37, mig 29ovt
[10:22] <Mmike> neznam, taj su-24 je jebacki avijon :)
[10:22] <ivoks> ?
[10:22] <ivoks> po cemu je jebacki?
[10:22] <ivoks> stara krama
[10:23] <ivoks> poslali su ih tamo da ih se rijese
[10:23] <ivoks> to je vrsnjak miga 21
[10:23] <Mmike> idem usisavat
[10:23] <Mmike> mama mi dolazi :)
[10:23] <ivoks> kanta se ni ne proizvodi vec 22 godine
[10:24] <ivoks> nosivost 8 tona
[10:24] <ivoks> pih
[10:26] <ivoks> bi vidio kak bi f16 srusio su34
[10:26] <ivoks> iako je bombarder
[10:52] <SilverSpace> dan
[11:17] <Mmike> [sudo] password for mario:
[11:17] <Mmike> Your mind just hasn't been the same since the electro-shock, has it?
[11:17] <Mmike> hih :)_
[11:49] <BotaniCar> Uzivam u pisanju projektne dokumentacije. To je umalo jedina prigoda kad mogu reci "save as pdf" :)
[11:53] <obruT> BotaniCar: kak to mislis "save to pdf"... ne pokreces pdflatex ? :P
[11:53] <BotaniCar> Kraj tako divnog text editora kao sto je libre ?! :)
[11:54] <obruT> dizat cijelu skalameriju umjesto fino u vimu napisat dokumentaciju, a ona izadje bas lijepo formatirana :)
[11:59] <BotaniCar> :D ti se bas volis muciti :)
[12:00] <SilverSpace> kaze uciteljica da mu rad iz likovnog cista jedinica
[12:01] <SilverSpace> matka i engleski petica
[12:05] <BotaniCar> Uvijek me zanimalo kako procijene da je neka slika za 1 ili za 5, to su predmeti gdje ne bi trebalo aplicirati kriterije koji vrijede za matematiku.
[12:06] <jelly> SilverSpace: tako sam ja bio prije 30 godina... izgovor: ocale (i lijenost) :-)
[12:06] <BotaniCar> Jer, ako ocjenjuju koliko je dete sposobno napraviti kopiju onog sto slika, to je krivo
[12:07] <jelly> Mmike: treba napravit hrvatsko-srpsko-bosansku lokalizaciju za sudo sa domacim uvredama
[12:08] <jelly> i još da deklinira username, [sudo] zaporka za marija:
[12:12] <ivoks> latex je zakon
[12:14] <jelly> definitivno, kad se cura zategne u to... umf
[12:16] <jelly> ali neudobno
[12:19] <Mmike> latex je zakon k'o sto je zakon pneumatska presa
[12:22] <hrvojem> python-sphinx ftw :)
[12:25] <BotaniCar> Jebemti Alfresco. Prije smo imali prilicno jednostavan single-tenant setup i korisnike s korisnickim imenom jednakim kao i mail adresa. Sad smo preswitchali na multi-tenant i sustav pretpostavlja da, ako u usernameu imas @, sve nakon toga definira kojem tenantu pripadas :)
[12:25] <BotaniCar> Rsum, lom, kaos :)
[12:27] <SilverSpace> dvije riječi koje završavaju glasom oj
[12:27] <SilverSpace> ?
[12:27] <vileni_> napoj
[12:27] <SilverSpace> lol :)
[12:27] <SilverSpace> vileni_: ne valja
[12:27] <SilverSpace> na-poj
[12:27] <SilverSpace> nap-oj
[12:28] <vileni_> SilverSpace: cek, jel mi to pisemo zadacu sad? :)
[12:29] <SilverSpace> vileni_: franko nezna a bome ni ja :)
[12:30] <SilverSpace> hm suh oj
[12:30] <SilverSpace> hm su h oj
[12:31] <Mmike> 'oj' nikak nije glas :)
[12:31] <SilverSpace> jebo onda knjigu
[12:32] <SilverSpace> rastavljene rijeci uci
[12:34] <SilverSpace> Mmike: netko se onda zabunio pisajuci knjigu
[12:34] <Mmike> oj bi mogo bi slo
[12:34] <Mmike> na-poj
[12:34] <Mmike> recimo :)
[12:34] <Mmike> slog, pardon
[12:34] <Mmike> ako je glas oj onda je 'napoj' ok
[12:34] <Mmike> avnoj! :0
[12:34] <SilverSpace> :)
[12:35] <Mmike> glasnoj, brzoj, velikoj, nakaradnoj, naprednoj, brbljavoj
[12:35] <Mmike> :)
[12:35] <SilverSpace> pridjev
[12:35] <SilverSpace> glagolski
[12:35] <Mmike> a sad, jebiga ti
[12:35] <SilverSpace> hm
[12:36] <Mmike> kad vec specificiras, jel' osh aktivni ili pasivni?
[12:36] <SilverSpace> ma nek to uciteljica rjesava
[12:37] <Mmike> cek, trebas glagolski pridjev koji zavrsava na oj?
[12:38] <SilverSpace> Mmike: ne
[12:38] <Mmike> nego?
[12:39] <SilverSpace> Sastavite rijeci dodajuci slogove
[12:39] <SilverSpace> doslovno je tak napisano
[12:40] <Mmike> ok, i koje rijeci?
[12:40] <SilverSpace> i dvije rijeci na zavsetak oj treba
[12:40] <SilverSpace> sve drugo je ok
[12:40] <SilverSpace> ______ -oj
[12:40] <Mmike> brzoj
[12:41] <Mmike> glasnoj
[12:41] <BotaniCar> Pojeo sam napoj tvoj, zeno draga , k'o da kusah loj.
[12:41] <Mmike> boj
[12:41] <Mmike> prijeboj
[12:41] <Mmike> kauboj
[12:41] <Mmike> napoj!
[12:42] <Mmike> rasirenoj
[12:42] <Mmike> i tak :)
[12:42] <Mmike> ee, loj
[12:42] <Mmike> bravo bot!
[12:42] <SilverSpace> na -ka i slicno rijesio baj -ka maj - ka
[12:42] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: lol
[12:42] <BotaniCar> https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153777280538896 # adelle i ekipa sviraju "Hello" na skolskim instrumentima :)
[12:43] <Mmike> gus-ka
[12:43] <Mmike> tvrt-ka
[12:43] <Mmike> pomaj-ka
[12:44] <Mmike> bit-ka
[12:44] <Mmike> vojs-ka
[12:44] <Mmike> ha, i pat-ka :)
[12:44] <Mmike> idem jest
[12:45] <SilverSpace> DT
[12:47] <SilverSpace> BotaniCar: odlicno :)
[12:47] <SilverSpace> jedva se suzdrzavaju da ne puknu od smjeha
[12:47] <BotaniCar> nego, kaj je ona olupina murdoch bas tvrdo odlucila sjebat' national geographic ? https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12295239_10153120741312016_2785306547607943327_n.png?oh=8da301a0cee393d73fddfe0e1a662b43&oe=56F71B73
[12:48] <BotaniCar> Pa dobro, sunac mu, kaj ne umre vise ( Rupert, ne NG, jel )
[12:51] <SilverSpace> kaj znaci T-rex Tyrannosaurus rex
[12:51] <BotaniCar> rex je kralj
[12:52] <SilverSpace> kaze amer na NG guster tiranin
[12:52] <BotaniCar> nda, wiki veli da su grci krivi ( tyrannos (τύραννος), "tyrant", and sauros (σαῦρος), "lizard" )
[12:52] <BotaniCar> guster-tiran kralj :) K'o da svoje ime citam :)
[12:52] <SilverSpace> najveci guster
[12:57] <BotaniCar> Posalji upit u dnevno.hr, vjerojatno ce ti odgovoriti da T-rex nije bio samo guster vec i mason 33-eg reda :)
[12:58] <SilverSpace> :)
[12:59] <SilverSpace> Bili su dugi oko 12 metara a masa im je bila između 5-6 tona.
[12:59] <SilverSpace> pa si ti misli
[13:00] <SilverSpace> 35 km/h
[13:00] <SilverSpace> taj nije trebao ni ugrist
[13:01] <SilverSpace> pregazi te
[13:02] <SilverSpace> kralj Maldonado: Dovoljno sam talentiran da u istom bolidu pobijedim Hamiltona
[13:06] <obruT> SilverSpace: kad i kako su nastali dinosauri te da li su uopce izumrijeli mozes saznati ovdje: https://answersingenesis.org/dinosaurs/when-did-dinosaurs-live/what-really-happened-to-the-dinosaurs/
[13:07] <SilverSpace> obruT: nisu izumrijeli
[13:07] <SilverSpace> pretvorili su se u ljude
[13:08] <SilverSpace> eto turcima sad
[13:09] <SilverSpace> nema vise trgovine na ruskom trzistu
[13:30] <BotaniCar> To je jedina kazna ? Pih
[13:36] <jelly> to je ok kazna, kaj bi trebali, ww3
[15:26] <ivoks> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUqklYwWIAEqpcN.png:large
[15:28] <Mmike> ivoks: jesi ti sad u .hr? :)
[15:28] <Mmike> heh, so true :)
[15:29] <ivoks> jesam
[15:30] <Mmike> ivoks: kad pivo onda?
[15:31] <ivoks> pfff
[15:41] <SilverSpace> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1815752970/multi-function-ssd-shield-for-the-raspberry-pi-2
[16:03] <SilverSpace> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca9Lguuv36E
[16:03] <datase> YouTube: Đe si ti čuo da ima rata bez Turaka! - 0:00:27 - 29052 views - 99 likes / 4 dislikes
[16:11] <obruT> obozavam kad mi daju da slozim neke aplikacije na serveru bez root accounta
[16:11] <obruT> pa mi daju sudo na restart apachea i mogucnost editiranja fajlova, ali naravno, ne mogu pogledat logove
[16:14] <obruT> sva sreca pa su smotani pa mi daju sudo vim nesto, a s tim mogu loadat bilo sto :P
[16:18] <SilverSpace> :)
[16:32] <Mmike> obruT: hackeru :)
[16:53] <SilverSpace> šljakeru
[16:53] <SilverSpace> :)
[16:56] <obruT> dosta jeb*ine s apachetom, dockerom, mailom i gluparijama... mogo bi doma
[18:51] <ipozgaj> 'jutar
[19:31] <Mmike> jelly, onaj tvoj image nema drivere za kvm stuff :)
[19:32] <Mmike> jelly, sorry, virtio sam htio, a nema drivera za to dok ih ne skines
[19:41] <Mmike> fwiw, jellyjev ima je 'checking for updates' radio 3-4 minute
[19:41] <Mmike> a'l njegov image nema SP1
[19:48] <dodobas> e Mmike sta cemo ?
[19:52] <Mmike> dodobas, idem dete turat spat
[19:52] <Mmike> dodobas, javim ti se kad uturim
[19:53] <dodobas> ja misleh sad kretat... treba mi do tebe nekih 30min...
[19:53] <dodobas> jel ti to dovoljno ?
[20:10] <dodobas> uglavnom... zvrcni na mob... ja sam negdje tamo za nekih 30 min...
[20:11] <Mmike> dodobas, a nemam pojma, tesko mi je to rec :(
[20:12] <Mmike> dodobas, ovisi kad ovaj zaspi
[21:21] <Mmike> dodobas, zaspo
[21:21] <Mmike> jbg
[21:21] <Mmike> dodobas, uzmem sutra!
[21:21] <Mmike> pa mozemo jest :)
[21:21] <Mmike> nego
[21:21] <Mmike> win7 - jos UVIJEK checkira za updateove
[21:21] <Mmike> al' sad ima SP1 :D
[21:21] <Mmike> smijeh, smijeh, smijeh :)
[21:25] <Mmike> http://superuser.com/questions/890038/why-is-checking-windows-update-so-slow
[21:25] <Mmike> it's like that by design :/
[21:38] <Mmike> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/why-are-windows-updates-so-slow-and-long-with/b785ff84-b00e-43b1-8628-40cdccb77aca?auth=1
[21:46] <Vlado9A3CY> dobra vecer
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[00:01] <TJ-> still not solved it. "Attempt to kill init!"
[00:03] * daftykins switches the track to Queen - Another One Bites the Dust
[00:03] <daftykins> i usually reserve that one for dead disks i diagnose ;)
[00:34] <daftykins> trouble approaches...
[00:39] <berwyn> Hi everyone 'in' this room. Also, I am a 'new' Linux Mint. But I do have a question about/on PlayDeb, the unofficial Ubuntu games website. My question is: Are the games from PlayDeb safe? Or....Is it safe to download games from the PlayDeb website? Thanks. :)
[00:39] <berwyn> *user
[00:41] <daftykins> so you were bs-ing us all along in #ubuntu - well i'll tell you what i'd tell you there, we don't support Mint.
[00:41] <daftykins> !mint
[00:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah, god forbid we help any new linux users.
[00:44] <OerHeks> maybe the downloads are safe, and games may not.
[00:44] <OerHeks> it is a trusted way, but no guarantees.
[00:44] <daftykins> SeriouslyLaugh: there's another channel to go talk about it in, so i see no problem... Mint has its' own issues and is best dealt with by people that run it themselves.
[00:46] <Welshman> daftykins + ubot5: Thanks. Also, yes, I know about #linuxmint-chat and -help. But was encouraged by cryptodan in/on #linuxmint-chat to ask in an #ubuntu channel/room. Also, my question is about the PlayDeb website which is listed on Ubuntu website! So, if you do not mind, I will wait for a few minutes to see if someone answers/replies to my question!! Thanks again. :)
[00:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> Welshman you might have better success asking in ##linux -- but don't mention the distribution you use. the cool kids frown upon mint.
[00:51] <daftykins> that guys on Mint... interesting
[00:52] <Welshman> SeriouslyLaugh: Thanks for your reply. But as I have mentioned/said already I was encouraged by another person to ask my question in an #ubuntu channel/room. So....I will wait for a few minutes! Thanks again. :)
[00:52] <SeriouslyLaugh> but it's not really an ubuntu question
[00:52] <SeriouslyLaugh> just saying
[00:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> though it does say "caters to the Ubuntu gamer"
[00:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> meh
[00:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> semantics
[00:58] <Welshman> SeriouslyLaugh: Sorry to disturb but have a question to ask you. My question is: If I cannot ask that question here in this channel/room and I cannot ask it in the 'other' channel/room then how am I going to get the answer? Seems a bit unfair! :(
[00:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> you asked in two rooms. there are literally thousands on freenode
[00:58] <daftykins> shockingly, on freenode you find channels appropriate to a topic.
[00:58] <daftykins> !alis
[00:59] <daftykins> this website you speak of may even have details of an IRC channel + network for itself.
[00:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> literally the top populated room on freenode is called ##linux and is for all linux discussion one would presume
[01:04] <Welshman> SeriouslyLaugh: Okay, thanks. Suppose I should try ##linux seems that I am not welcomed here to ask my/that question. So, I bid you a goodnight - it's 1.04am here - and all the best! :)
[01:05] <daftykins> weird you repeat the same format with all statements
[01:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> maybe he's a really advanced bot
[01:06] <Welshman> daftykins + ubot5: You might be pleased to know that I am going to try to enter ##linux as suggested by SeriouslyLaugh. So, goodnight + all the best to both of you!!
[01:06] <daftykins> you'd know, you joined in all the channels at the same time the trolls started :)
[01:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> pay no mind to the man behind the curtain!
[01:11] * OerHeks is playing So Lonely - The Police [ft. More Alone]
[02:01] <daftykins> yep troll season is in full swing :(
[02:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> they keep feeding it.
[02:03] <daftykins> you're part of it as far as i'm concerned
[02:03] <SeriouslyLaugh> :|
[02:04] <SeriouslyLaugh> apologies if it seems that way -- i'm still learning the tone of the channel
[02:06] <daftykins> don't fight the rules and you'll do well; what you've been trying to challenge so far has made you look like common trolls
[02:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> got it
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[02:18] <daftykins> \o
[02:19] <daftykins> troll season is in full swing, lotuspsychje - be warned!
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> oh-oh
[02:19] <lotuspsychje> lets calm them down :p
[02:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> !ppa | SeriouslyLaugh this is just a test to see if the bot is active in this channel too
[02:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> apologies
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | SeriouslyLaugh
[02:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> ty lotuspsychje
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/black-lab-software-announces-linux-based-mac-mini-competitor-black-lab-briq-v5-496665.shtml
[02:27] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: see plenty more AMD graphics cards have just been moved to legacy status now?
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: no?
[02:29] <daftykins> HD 5000 and HD6000, plus some earlier HD7xxx are now legacy
[02:29] <daftykins> and pre-kaveri AMD APUs too
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> nice
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: if i understand correctly new amdgpu driver will only allow new cards
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> and older drivers keeping seperated
[02:31] <daftykins> probably echo the above yeah and support GCN cards only
[02:32] <OerHeks> AMD is saying that the performance in some Linux games will increase by at least 112%.
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> wow
[02:32] <OerHeks> http://news.softpedia.com/news/radeon-crimson-driver-to-bring-linux-performance-improvements-of-over-100-496617.shtml
[02:32] <daftykins> glxgears here we come ;)
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> back to the graphics battle lol
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=phoronix_news
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> alot of crimson news ontop OerHeks
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> daftykins, OerHeks the devel guys told me nvidia-current is already dead, and will be removed after the 304 driver is gone
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> so no nvidia-current for users anymore
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> the additional drivers section takes now care of the driver for users
[02:49] <daftykins> well that package i haven't advise to use for several years
[02:49] <daftykins> *advised
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> great
[03:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> daftykins for the record, you are right
[03:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> re: the topic in the support channel
[03:07] <daftykins> thanks
[03:07] <daftykins> i mean, i could understand if we were talking about someone who uses shared internet connections a lot... or doesn't use a router but connects direct...
[03:07] <daftykins> but it's 100% apparent there's no understanding of the concept there
[03:08] <SeriouslyLaugh> right
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> the whonix page shows net.ipv4.tcp_timestamps = 0 ? not icmp
[03:08] <SeriouslyLaugh> literally FUD, and she even used that term
[03:08] <daftykins> my brain tends to go off whenever i see something involving 'privacy' or TOR
[03:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> spidey senses
[03:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> though, i use a vpn
[03:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> because some irc servers don't properly cloak
[03:12] <daftykins> well this one has been around for over a week, so the crazy is firmly evident
[06:31] <daftykins> OerHeks: all we need is, radio ga ga~
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> morning TJ- and cfhowlett
[09:27] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, hey there
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-xenial-xerus-will-be-powered-by-linux-kernel-4-4-lts-496675.shtml
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnu-org-website-says-microsoft-s-software-is-malware-496689.shtml
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:30] <cfhowlett> again.
[09:34] <TJ-> hallo :)
[09:35] <TJ-> oh what it is to ride this kernel train tonight... especially when the darned thing doesn't like the CPU :)
[09:37] <cfhowlett> ride the kernel train tonight? that's a motown sound!
[09:38] <TJ-> uhuh :)
[09:40] <TJ-> I'm building plopkexec to fit on a 1.44 FD, but no matter what compiler options I set, it throws an error if executed on the real mobo (VIA C3 Samuel 2) and in a Qemu Guest if arch isn't set to pentium2 despite my building with gcc -march=c3 or -march=486. Can't figure it out
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> what kind of error TJ-
[09:43] <TJ-> kernel panic, init killed. As in the /init from plop dies. I suspect due to it trying to use an opcode that doesn't exist on the CPU, and the fact I can reproduce it in a VM Guest seems to confirm that, but as I say, despite my setting the specific compiler machine arch to use, the condition remains
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: foudn a thread, not sure if it will help: http://reboot.pro/topic/20524-grub4dos-via-kexec-plopkexec-specifically/
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[09:47] <TJ-> as in https://iam.tj/projects/misc/plopkexec.jpg
[09:47] <TJ-> that's with a pentium CPU: "qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -cpu pentium -drive if=floppy,format=raw,file=floppy.img"
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> not many hits on plopexec on google :p
[09:49] <TJ-> And this is with "-cpu pentium2" https://iam.tj/projects/misc/plopkexec.good.jpg
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: tested other kernels?
[09:50] <TJ-> so the issue is obviously a compiler flags issues; I'm building with gcc options "-march=c3 -m32" (c3 is the specific Via C3 CPU on the target, but obviously the Qemu guest also fails so something appears to be including non C3 code
[09:51] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I'm building the kernel itself; it's build target is the Via C3 too
[09:51] <TJ-> kernel is going fine, it's the /init exectuable build that has this issue
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: how about this: https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2007-10/msg00442.html
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> or this: 0
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> down vote
[09:52] <lotuspsychje>
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> I found the fix with the help of this thread. I had to enable CONFIG_AEABI in my kernel.
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> https://balau82.wordpress.com/2010/03/22/compiling-linux-kernel-for-qemu-arm-emulator/
[09:56] <TJ-> the kernel is working fine, it's the plop /init exectuable throwing the panic
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> cant find nothing much on plop
[10:05] <TJ-> I've just captured the kernel dmesg over a serial console from the VM: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/plopkexec.log
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[10:06] <TJ-> I'll do another with the 'pentium2' set as the CPU
[10:07] <TJ-> here: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/plopkexec.pentium.log - you'll see it actually runs the plop /init over the serial console :)
[10:08] <TJ-> I wonder if this is another of those weird gcc 5 issues
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> not sure on this
[10:24] <TJ-> I've installed the 4.9 gcc libraries and building with that, see if it makes a difference
[10:26] <TJ-> that futurama140 seems to be hell-bent on destroying their system. no idea what that 'wibom' is, but can't see it in the archives
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> never seen it either
[10:43] <TJ-> oh, I think I've figured it out! The Ubuntu 32-bit GCC libaries are all built for i686, so when they're linked into this exectuable they bring pentium2 (i686) instructions
[10:44] <TJ-> bugger!
[10:44] <TJ-> So, basically, I'm going to have to go back to Ubuntu 5.10 or so to get the libraries that were built for i386
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> oh i see
[10:47] <cfhowlett> 5.10? errrrrrrrrrr .....
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> !5.10
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> yayyyy
[10:48] <cfhowlett> so ... just a BIT dated ...
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> security bomb :p
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> JT- hahaa
[10:54] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^ :p
[10:55] <TJ-> Well, I'll find the last build that supported the i586/pentium class CPUs; the target CPU cannot support the cmov instruction that the pentium2/i686 introduced
[10:56] <TJ-> Better using those prebuilt binaries that trying to build the entire current standard library for i586 - that's take ages, and doesn't help since the target CPUb/mobo has to be able to install and run many packages :)
[11:03] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: Danco in #ubuntu
[11:05] <EriC^^> 800 computers
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> oO
[11:05] <EriC^^> wonder where he got them from
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> lets find out :p
[11:05] <EriC^^> :D
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: tnx for the highlight
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> Danco: welcome mate
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> Danco: can you tell us more about your project?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> Danco: gonna start own ubuntu store?
[11:08] <Danco> We basically got a batch of 700-800 computers from colleges and schools that were put out of commission. The previous licensing was done through a Windows server, so we cannot supply with Windows. To have our buyers be able to use the computers they'd at least need something to work with.
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> nice
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> and you will sell them machines with ubuntu on Danco
[11:10] <Danco> Preferably yes, we got one machine pre installed with the OEM installation, which would then get imaged to our FOG server, which will then upload and install a batch of 50 computers at the same time.
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> Danco: im starting an own store next years, thats why im interested
[11:11] <Danco> But the price for a computer with or without Ubuntu would be the same.
[11:11] <Danco> I see :)
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> no
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu makes it cheaper right
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> -100 euro for windows
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> and ill order barebones to put own hardware inside
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> Danco: no payed ms office lisence, no antivirus
[11:14] <Danco> Exactly, but I cannot get on with it unless I get permission from Canonical
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> Danco: yeah, you need to be confirmed
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> Danco: check the disclaimer here at bottom 3 lines: https://system76.com/disclaimer
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Danco: you site will need it also, to sell them legit
[11:16] <Danco> Ah, as long as we would put that in after confirmation we would be able to sell them?
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> Danco: i think it wont be more complicated then that
[11:17] <Danco> I'll just be patient then. Thank you kindly :)
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> Danco: just to avoid users thinking, you invented ubuntu on the machines you sell
[11:17] <Danco> Ah fair enough, that's understandable. So there shouldn't be a fee towards us for batch supplying?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> Danco:i dont think so, as ubuntu is opensource
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> Danco: if you want canonical support, thats another business
[11:19] <Danco> Fair enough, I got falsely informed. We wouldn't need support, I just want to cover my own behind if you know what I mean.
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> Danco: sure, but make sure you wait for the canonical reply
[11:20] <Danco> Will definitely do that! Thank you :)
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> Danco: oem brands like the new phones and such bq,meizu will need to pay fee to canonical
[11:22] <Danco> But that's due to it being completely being based on their source code isn't it?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> Danco: yeah and updates support and such
[11:23] <Danco> So you are the owner of system76?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Danco: no, im gonna run own store bit like system76
[11:24] <Danco> Ah fair enough :) I wish you the best of luck in the future!
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Danco: with phones,tablets,laptops and desktops
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Danco: all ubuntu + ssd
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Danco: tnx
[11:26] <Danco> Webbased?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Danco: you mean online shop also?
[11:26] <Danco> I meant purily online.
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> ah no
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> own store from home also +repair +security advise
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Danco: i will also tweak ubuntu before sending to customer
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> Danco: you know a spanish school did the same thing as you, whole schools network on ubuntu
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> Danco: maybe look that up, might be relevant
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> germany governement changed to ubuntu also
[11:29] <Danco> Afraid we already sold all the computers, next batch might be able to go back in a network.
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> Danco: your customer will send the to individuals or use for network?
[11:31] <Danco> We are not quite sure, they are a big chain that buys and resells any product range.
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> ok
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> Danco: whats the brand of the machines?
[11:33] <Danco> Just standard HP's with brackets and monitors included
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> nice :p
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> hp will do fine with ubuntu
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> good linux support
[11:34] <Danco> Runs quite smooth altogether. But I'll get back to work, thank you again for informing me, and again, I wish you the best of luck!
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> Danco: laters!
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:38] <pauljw> morning BluesKaj
[12:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw
[12:38] <pauljw> :)
[13:36] <pauljw> wb
[15:54] <mcphail> Has the Amazon Search function generated enough income to justify the loss of faith in the privacy and security of data on Ubuntu?
[15:56] <TJ-> money doesn't justify prostitution :)
[15:56] <SeriouslyLaugh> all it did was prove that everyone has a price
[15:57] <mcphail> Sad to see users opting for arch over Ubuntu because of this
[15:57] <TJ-> a few maybe, most rational actors who don't like it simply disable/uninstall it
[15:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> it's the equivilant of when an installer tries to sneak in a weather bug or coupon app
[15:59] <TJ-> I think the biggest objection to it was that it was opt-out, not opt-in, and *hard* to opt-out originally
[15:59] <mcphail> Yes, the reputational damage exceeds the actual insult
[15:59] <TJ-> And most people knew the reason for it being opt-in is that Canonical wanted inertia to mean most users would leave it as-is
[16:00] <mcphail> It has been depressing to see mozilla taking the same approach
[16:01] <TJ-> If they'd been up-front and said: "Look, Canonical needs some return on the huge investment Shuttleworth has put in to get this far, can we enable this Amazon search addition because if you buy from them we'll get a commission" I think most people would have readily supported it
[16:01] <TJ-> This is the problem with the 'free-beer' mentality; users get a sense of entitlement ... want everything for nothing
[16:02] <TJ-> Funny thing is those same users, in the my experience, have no problem being Google's or Facebook's Product
[16:03] <mcphail> Neither Google nor Facebook get root access to your life archive, though. The bar has to be set higher for an OS
[16:05] <mcphail> And mozilla ere downright duplicitous, in my opinion. Google and Facebook were always honest about their plans
[16:06] <TJ-> Errr, Facebook 'knows' a lot more about its users than their own PCs do
[16:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> personally, i'm less concerned with the privacy issue
[16:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> just the bloatware sucks. the concept of it.
[16:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> feels like it cheapens the product
[16:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> regardless of how actually bloated it may or may not be
[16:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> just seeing the little icon there is a reminder that everyone has a price
[16:20] <TJ-> Well... finally.. I've identified the last build of gcc that supported the i586: 10.04 Lucid
[21:39] <TJ-> finally! 24+ hours later, I have plopkexec booting correctly on an i586 class CPU
[21:41] <daftykins> TJ-: :D
[21:42] <daftykins> TJ-: looks like i'll be selling that HTC shortly and sending it up to England, so if you needing anything else... :)
[21:49] <TJ-> haha! No, I've got that underway as well, now I understand what it needs
[21:51] <daftykins> cool :)
[21:52] <daftykins> decided it's worth about £150, but not mine to sell so no profit to me!
[21:52] <TJ-> Basically, I need to build a placebo package that provides the classes/services that are part of the Sense framework
[21:52] <TJ-> that's a bit of depreciation :O
[21:54] <daftykins> i just went by what ebay and amazon have listed
[22:00] <TJ-> yeah, electronic devices are like vehicles. As soon as they arrive they lose 15% value
[22:04] <daftykins> :)
[22:04] <TJ-> did you see my mention earlier about the 20 year old bug I hit that is in every package every built by Debian, Ubuntu and all other deried distros?
[22:04] <daftykins> i did not :O
[22:05] <daftykins> still waiting (im)patiently for that Nexus 5 screen to show up :)
[22:05] <TJ-> I've been having 'fun' trying to get a 10.04 chroot installed using debootstrap (that is the last version that built gcc with i585 support).
[22:06] <TJ-> The debootstrap kept failing when it tried to "mount -t proc proc /proc" in the chroot, telling me the EUID was 1000, not 0.
[22:07] <daftykins> hehe
[22:08] <TJ-> after a lot of digging I found out the reason was that when debootstrap fetches the .deb packages, and extracts them manually with 'tar', the ownership info stored in the 'tar' is named-based e.g. "root:root" rather than ID based (0:0). So on a system - like mine - where root != 0 tar does a query of the passwd file to get the UID, and gets 1000 not 0, and installs files with that ownership
[22:09] <TJ-> (1000:1000). Now, '/bin/mount' is an setuid binary, so when executed the kernel sets its Effective UID as 1000, and mount checks with geteuid() and bails out complaining
[22:09] <TJ-> this is due to every package being created with using the tar '--numeric-owner' option, so it stores "root:root" not "0:0" as the owner.
[22:10] <TJ-> that's done by the core dpkg-deb/dpkg-buildpackage tooling, that's been around since Debian started
[22:28] <EriC^^> TJ-: a user gets a grub shell after choosing his os in grub
[22:28] <EriC^^> if he types configfile (hd0,gpt5)/boot/grub/grub.cfg it boots
[22:28] <EriC^^> grub shows the $root as (hd0,gpt2) , which is actually the efi partition
[22:29] <EriC^^> /boot/efi/EFI/grub/grub.cfg shows search.fs_uuid e534f420-36db-491c-8db8-dc5b770db499 root hd1,gpt5
[22:29] <EriC^^> *hd1
[22:29] <EriC^^> what do you think it could be?
[22:31] <TJ-> EriC^^: sounds like "grub-install" has written the wrong root value into the core.img (grubx64.efi), and needs re-doing
[22:31] <EriC^^> we just chrooted and ran grub-install and update-grub
[22:32] <TJ-> with an /EFI/grub/grub.cfg in place? That might trigger it setting the core root=hd0,gpt2
[22:33] <TJ-> try moving that file out (don't delete it yet) so GRUB won't find it in the EFI-SP, then re-do the grub-install
[22:33] <EriC^^> TJ-: he says $prefix shows (hd0,gpt2)/EFI/ubuntu
[22:34] <EriC^^> how odd is that?
[22:34] <TJ-> remember that GRUB set's root= to the file-system that contains its grub.cfg, so if it finds one in the EFI-SP, it may well use that instead of the 'real' one in the GRUB /boot/grub/ location
[22:34] <EriC^^> he doesn't even have an ubuntu dir, he has /EFI/grub
[22:38] <TJ-> Not an Ubuntu install then, or a manual install
[22:39] <EriC^^> elementary os
[22:40] <TJ-> Yes, he tried getting help in #ubuntu earlier
[22:40] <daftykins> friggin' elementary, my dear Watson
[22:41] <EriC^^> lol daftykins
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[00:00] <menoob> and get the errorcode: xmodmap: 1 error encountered, aborting.
[00:00] <mcphail> menoob: Could it be something to do with Unity already claiming the key binding?
[00:01] <menoob> mcphail: thank you for your reply :-). But I'm not using unity. Instead, I'm using i3wm
[00:02] <mcphail> menoob: ok - was only guessing! I presume the same doesn't apply for i3? That is quite heavt on the keybindings, isn't it?
[00:03] <menoob> mcphail: as far as I know, alt+space is not occupied
[00:04] <daftykins> that's actually a standard function for bringing the menu down from window controls
[00:07] <MWM> Im connected with a USB3 to ethernet adapter, how can I keep Ubuntu from searchin for the network through any other inerface at startup?
[00:10] <mcphail> menoob: https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html#_default_keybindings - "focus floating/tiling"
[00:12] <MWM> removing eth0 from the /etc/network/interfaces dows not stop the network check at startup , where else could I look?
[00:13] <Welshman> Hi everyone 'in' this room. Also, I am a 'new' Linux Mint. But I do have a question about/on PlayDeb, the unofficial Ubuntu games website. My question is: Are the games from PlayDeb safe? Or....Is it safe to download games from the PlayDeb website? Thanks. :)
[00:13] <Welshman> *user
[00:14] <Ben64> Welshman: Mint isn't supported here, for support, join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[00:15] <Jordan_U> MWM: What practical problem are you having?
[00:15] <Welshman> Ben64: Yes, I know that. My question is about/on PlayDeb, the unofficial Ubuntu games website! Thanks. :)
[00:16] <slavka`> hey guys... if im root, whats the diff between just running a command and running it with sudo prefix? e.g. sudo npm install... and npm install...
[00:16] <Ben64> Welshman: unofficial = not supported here
[00:17] <Jordan_U> slavka`: Usually nothing, but you shouldn't log in as root, and even running a root shell is often a bad idea.
[00:18] <bprompt> slavka`: dunno, but I'd think none, sudo is to run as superuser, but "root" is already a superuser, so I'd think the shell will run it, though neverminding the "sudo" part anyway
[00:18] <Welshman> Ben64: If that is the case then why is it listed on the Ubuntu website? Also, if you do not mind, I will wait for some else to answer/reply to my "Are the games from PlayDeb safe?" etc! Thanks again. :)
[00:19] <Welshman> *question
[00:20] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-discuss Welshman
[00:22] <Welshman> bazhang: Thanks for the suggestion. Will take note but if you do not mind I will wait for a few minutes to see if someone will answer/reply to my initial question! Thanks again. :)
[00:22] <mcphail> Welshman: please stop spamming the support channel
[00:22] <bazhang> Welshman, its not on topic here
[00:26] <wootehfoot> So, I logout, xorg bugged out, and re-logged me back in without the need for password. Nice.
[00:27] <jeffreylevesque> anyone willing to test my machine learning program out - https://github.com/jeff1evesque/machine-learning?
[00:27] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: not appropriate here.
[00:28] <k1l_> jeffreylevesque: that is considered as spam here. better ask in the offtopic or chat related channels. #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat
[00:28] <jeffreylevesque> it uses ubuntu 14.04 vm
[00:31] <menoob> hi guys, I would like the activate Mode_switch in xmodmap with two keys, e.g. I want alt+space to activate the modswitch, and therefor I did the following:keycode 204 65 = Mode_switch. Unfortunately, this didn't work.
[00:33] <Welshman> bazhang: I am now going to try to enter the #ubuntu-discuss channel/room as you suggested. So, I bid you a good evening/goodnight - it's 12.33pm here - and all the best! :)
[00:47] <streamit> y is linux giving me amazon ads yo?
[00:47] <benstrumental> streamit: It's all about the $$$
[00:48] <streamit> dafuq tho? how do i turn it offfffff?
[00:49] <benstrumental> http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature
[00:49] <streamit> and why doesn't ubuntu call itself linux anymore? did they forget where they came from?
[00:49] <somsip> !adlens | streamit
[00:49] <k1l_> streamit: it does. see on their webpage
[00:50] <streamit> k1l_, yeah i'm looking i don't see it. where do u see "linux" on the front page?
[00:51] <streamit> or ANY PAGE????
[00:52] <daftykins> streamit: distros aren't Linux though, they *use* Linux, totally different.
[00:52] <mcphail> streamit: please stick to support questions in this channel. Thanks
[00:53] <k1l_> streamit: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu
[00:53] <k1l_> streamit: any more troll topics you gathered to ask in here?
[00:53] <streamit> k1l_, took you a minute though didn't it?
[00:54] <streamit> daftykins, you were that nerd in kodi earlier huh? still no op in there?
[00:54] <daftykins> :)
[00:55] <k1l_> streamit: i muted you since you dont seem to actually need ubuntu support but just try to make drama. if you need actual ubuntu support you can request in #ubuntu-ops the mute to be removed
[00:55] <k1l_> i case anyone wondered if that is a troll
[00:56] <daftykins> winter does seem to be bringing them all in.
[01:05] <foul_owl> On 14.04 where can I find /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases ? Looks like it moved somewhere. Did a find on / but no luck. Thanks!
[01:06] <daftykins> dpkg -L dhcpd
[01:07] <ha1dfo> hi, anyone knows why https://www.ubuntu.com would redirect to http://www.ubuntu.com ?
[01:08] <foul_owl> Looks like I have isc-dhcp-client installed
[01:08] <daftykins> foul_owl: guess the above config won't be present then :)
[01:09] <foul_owl> Gotcha
[01:09] <foul_owl> Do you know how to view active dhcp leases with that package?
[01:09] <daftykins> i'd bet its' logs would be handy
[01:11] <foul_owl> Hmmmm I can't find any reference to dhcp in /var/log/
[01:12] <foul_owl> How do I know where a package is going to log to?
[01:12] <tgm4883> foul_owl: have you checked the config files for it?
[01:12] <tgm4883> foul_owl: normally in /etc
[01:13] <foul_owl> Oo wait I found the man pages via dpkg -L
[01:13] <foul_owl> I was trying "man dhcp" and "man dhcp-client"
[01:13] <daftykins> ;)
[01:14] <daftykins> foul_owl: should be pretty obvious if any leases have been issued since you've only just set it up and configured it, presumably...
[01:15] <tgm4883> foul_owl: IIRC they are under /var. It's been awhile since I ran that as a DHCP server
[01:22] <streamit> hi nerds it's me again! did you miss me? I know k1l_ did!! why are you ubuntu nerds pretending to not be linux? do you think your better than linux now? why unity suck so much? its sloooooooowwwwww
[01:30] <Jiffer> commands
[01:30] <daftykins> Jiffer: do you have a support question?
[01:30] <Jiffer> can someone link me to a list of commands for linux
[01:30] <Jiffer> learning it
[01:30] <daftykins> looking up an intro to BASH would be good
[01:30] <Jiffer> anyone recommend some books to
[01:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> Jiffer http://www.nixtutor.com/linux/all-the-best-linux-cheat-sheets/
[01:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> books, i can't really say
[01:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> self taught
[01:32] <Jiffer> im self teaching as well
[01:32] <Jiffer> but the more stuff i can get my hands on the better
[01:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> i've had pretty good success with those idiots guide/dummy books for other topics
[01:32] <Jiffer> also what distribo do most people use
[01:33] <OpenSorce> Jiffer, by the time you get a hard copy book read it's info could be badly outdated. Stick with online sources that can be updated as the tech evolves.
[01:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> Jiffer http://distrowatch.com/
[01:33] <somsip> Jiffer: this is ubuntu, so people use ubuntu. If you want general suggestions, try something like distrowatch.com (from memory)
[01:33] <k1l_> Jiffer: start with ubuntu :)
[01:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah Ubuntu is the gateway drug for many linux users
[01:33] <OpenSorce> Jiffer, without a doubt begin with Ubuntu.
[01:33] <OpenSorce> k1l_, I started with Slack :-P
[01:34] <Jiffer> I got a bunch of VM's on this computer
[01:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> looking back I wish I had started with Arch
[01:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> if only to learn the most basic things of how Linux operates
[01:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> partitioning, etc
[01:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> most of that is hand-held through the ubuntu installation process
[01:34] <OpenSorce> SeriouslyLaugh, I learned a LOT having to compile and re-write apps to get them working.
[01:34] <somsip> SeriouslyLaugh: do LFS in a VM as a project - then you'll learn. But this is off-topic
[01:35] <OpenSorce> I made an LFS distro but it was made to mimic OSX and Apple made me stop :-P
[01:35] <Jiffer> lol
[01:35] <daftykins> !ot
[01:35] <SeriouslyLaugh> cough elementary OS cough
[01:36] <daftykins> chat in -offtopic please folks.
[01:36] <OpenSorce> somsip, sorry you're right. Topic
[01:36] <OpenSorce> daftykins, good to see you again :-)
[01:36] <SeriouslyLaugh> how is answering a question offtopic?
[01:36] <daftykins> your chat about your own personal history, is chat.
[01:36] <OpenSorce> And mine as well.
[01:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> so if anyone asks a subjecive question, make sure you dont answer
[01:37] <OpenSorce> So what DM is Ubuntu using now for logins? Light?
[01:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> OpenSorce no talking in this channel
[01:37] <k1l_> SeriouslyLaugh: this channels focus is ubuntu. for general chat use ##chat or ##linux for general linux questions
[01:37] <k1l_> OpenSorce: yes, lightdm
[01:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> the guy asked which distro to use
[01:38] <SeriouslyLaugh> so if it's not ubuntu, we cant say it
[01:38] <k1l_> OpenSorce: but kubuntu uses ssdm, and mate ubuntu uses gdm, iirc.
[01:38] <D3VO> j#chat
[01:38] <k1l_> SeriouslyLaugh: stop that drama, please.
[01:38] <OpenSorce> k1l_, ty need to insert a command before it asks for a password to light up my keyboard. I know the command just gotta find the right place to put it.
[01:38] <benstrumental> I am having trouble getting my .deb built with the binary included for a package (following the packaging guide: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html) - I suspect the debian/rules Makefile is not calling 'make' in my source directory. Any ideas?
[01:39] <SeriouslyLaugh> benstrumental how far do you get? what is the last error you recieve?
[01:41] <benstrumental> SeriouslyLaugh: I built the .deb .dsc etc. with `bzr builddeb — -us -uc`, but when I lesspipe my .deb, There is no binary
[01:42] <benstrumental> SeriouslyLaugh: With respect to the guide I am around steps 6.3/6.4, trying to get a reasonable .deb/.dsc
[01:48] <OpenSorce> Okay so it's two part, lightdm and unity greeter. Are there other greeters?
[01:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> i know of pantheon-greeter https://launchpad.net/pantheon-greeter
[01:50] <OpenSorce> SeriouslyLaugh, thanks.
[01:50] <Jiffer> So in Ubuntu, How do you go back one CD like " CD Desktop/1/2/3 If im in CD 3 how i jump back one folder"
[01:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> Jiffer CD ..
[01:51] <Jiffer> yeah but thats not working
[01:51] <Jiffer> I did cd ../../
[01:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> type pwd
[01:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> that'll show you where you're at
[01:52] <SeriouslyLaugh> cd just means change directory
[01:52] <Jiffer> pwd did nothing
[01:53] <pac1> pwd = print working directory
[01:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> thanks pac1 i did not know that one
[01:53] <Jiffer> I got it now
[01:53] <pac1> you need a list of common linux commands.
[01:53] <Jiffer> in Kali you would do this
[01:54] <Jiffer> cd/../../../.. for each one
[01:54] <Jiffer> but with ubuntu you have to do cd ..
[01:54] <pac1> http://www.tecmint.com/useful-linux-commands-for-newbies/
[01:54] <Jiffer> thanks Pac1
[01:55] <pac1> What's Kali?
[01:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> distro for penetration testing, Debian based
[01:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> not sure why or how the terminal commands would be different though
[01:55] <tgm4883> precisely why kali isn't supported here
[01:56] <Jiffer> lol
[01:57] <SeriouslyLaugh> has there been any discussion for what happens when the release naming convention reaches past the letter Z?
[01:57] <pac1> other than the list of commands, what would be different? for example where's the space after cd i cd/../../../..n
[01:58] <tgm4883> SeriouslyLaugh: yes, although I'd have to look it up (and that isn't exactly a support question)
[01:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> I suppose 20.04?
[01:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> oh sorry
[01:58] <k1l_> SeriouslyLaugh: start with a again, i guess.
[01:59] <anoncicada> hallo for all
[01:59] <pac1> after Z comes A with circle on top. circle means "hard to pronounce"
[02:00] <anoncicada> How does I install norton antivirus on new ubuntu? I clicked the exe many times but it not working
[02:00] <somsip> !av | anoncicada (and that's windows software)
[02:00] <k1l_> anoncicada: you dont do that on ubuntu.
[02:00] <pac1> virus? what virus. on linux, you are just hacked...
[02:01] <anoncicada> But exe means executable no? Why it not working?
[02:01] <pac1> or not.
[02:01] <anoncicada> I thought linux was best software?
[02:01] <millerti> pac1: Well at least functionally, å serves the role of 'o' before its sound shifted to /u/ in swedish.
[02:01] <k1l_> anoncicada: troll somewhere else please.
[02:01] <pac1> you did do penetration testing didn't you?
[02:01] <OerHeks> anoncicada, you don;t use norton exe on apple too.
[02:01] <pac1> ja.
[02:01] <pac1> naturlijk.
[02:01] <millerti> Not that I know much Swedish.
[02:02] <anoncicada> if not exe, then how to install it? Please I need help and dont wanted to get hacked
[02:02] <anoncicada> by the chinese
[02:02] <OerHeks> no help with norton, is is not going to work on linux.
[02:02] <pac1> anoncicada, Norton does not make a product for linux.
[02:02] <OerHeks> enable your firewall and you are fine
[02:03] <anoncicada> what antivirus will best protect safe me from hackers on ubuntu?
[02:03] <anoncicada> I have enabled the firewall but that will not keep them out?
[02:03] <OerHeks> and reed !av from ubottu
[02:03] <tgm4883> stop trolling please
[02:04] <millerti> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[02:04] <Jiffer> lol
[02:04] <Jiffer> is the mv command to move things but it also renames it too?
[02:04] <anoncicada> millerti, i am thankful to you.
[02:04] <somsip> Jiffer: yes
[02:05] <millerti> Jiffer: The mv command does different things depending on what the source and dest are.
[02:06] <Jiffer> how do you define them
[02:06] <pac1> http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/anatomy-of-a-hack-what-a-successful-exploit-of-a-linux-server-looks-like/
[02:06] <k1l_> !terminal
[02:06] <somsip> Jiffer: man mv, then ask questions if you dont find answers
[02:06] <k1l_> Jiffer: see that link from the bot ^
[02:06] <OerHeks> mv /path/a.txt /path/b.txt
[02:07] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to install wxcam. I am getting the error ' Dependency is not satisfiable: libmjpegtools-1.9 (>=1:1.9.0) Could someone help me resolve this? I've tried searching on Google,. but am receiving error messages with the suggested methods.
[02:08] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares make sure you have "recommended updates" enabled in software center
[02:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> see this link for some screenshots that might be able to assist: http://askubuntu.com/questions/115694/dependency-is-not-satisfiable-error-when-trying-to-install-an-application
[02:09] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: Where is that option?
[02:09] <anoncicada> ubuntu is best linux software i have been told. you are good comunity
[02:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares Software Sources > Updates
[02:10] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: That is already checked
[02:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares in terminal, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:10] <OerHeks> wxcam,last update 2011-06-11 .. dead project
[02:11] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: are you that guy with the old camera that records video as motion jpeg?
[02:12] <RonWhoCares> I don't think so
[02:12] <Extreminador> do you guys advise to change the default ftp directory to be the same has the apache2 or you guys have any tip to give ?
[02:12] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: 2 errors @ http://pastebin.com/3DhREVF3
[02:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares do you happen to know the version you're using?
[02:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> paste the output of lsb_release -a
[02:12] <RonWhoCares> 15:10
[02:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares you have a broken repo causing that error. one sec while I google that
[02:12] <RonWhoCares> Release 15.10 wiley
[02:13] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares run sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:osmoma/audio-recorder
[02:14] <OerHeks> it would even give trouble on precise too .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mjpegtools
[02:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:14] <OerHeks> why an ppa?
[02:14] <somsip> SeriouslyLaugh: recommendations to install PPA should be accompanied with a warning about unsupported software
[02:14] <OerHeks> there are much videorecorders ..
[02:14] <RonWhoCares> My original problem is that I am making videos with 'Cheese' and the audio is about 1/8 second out of sync with the video. I am looking for another option for making videos
[02:15] <SeriouslyLaugh> somsip i'm advising him to remove the ppa per the -r flag
[02:15] <auzty> how to create an upstart service ? i already put my upstart script in /etc/init , but when i try service myjob start (it's said unrecognized service)
[02:15] <somsip> SeriouslyLaugh: ok - didn't know about that flag and it looked like it was adding one. My bad
[02:15] <SeriouslyLaugh> somsip but thank you for the tip -- i will do that in the future
[02:15] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: I have now completed the steps you gave me.
[02:15] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: The final line of output was: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:16] <somsip> !ppa | SeriouslyLaugh (use this, just for example - some ops do not like PPA recommendations at all, so best to be aware)
[02:16] <JC_Yang> hi, all. I'm trying to cross-compile something to win32, with mingw, of course. but the default gcc and toolchain used is the one for ubuntu, how can I tell it to use mingw toolchain rather than the native ones? for example, I'm trying to build zlib.
[02:16] <SeriouslyLaugh> ty somsip
[02:17] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares perhaps try sudo apt-get install libmjpegtools-dev
[02:18] <RonWhoCares> What program do you recommend I record videos with if I don't choose " wxcam "
[02:18] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: Done
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: vlc
[02:18] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok now try sudo apt-get install wxcam
[02:19] <SeriouslyLaugh> that should work
[02:19] <OS_Connoisseur> Is there a SDL-ttf 1.2 package available for Ubuntu 14.04?
[02:19] <OS_Connoisseur> I can only find 2.0 which is NOT compatible.
[02:19] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares highlight
[02:20] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: How do I install Vlc? Any idea?
[02:20] <OS_Connoisseur> Ah, there is one, albeit under the confusing name of libsdl-ttf2.0-dev.
[02:20] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:21] <RonWhoCares> Do you know if vlc is a dead project?
[02:21] <OS_Connoisseur> VLC is not dead.
[02:21] <OerHeks> info libsdl-ttf2.0-0
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: i just suggested it
[02:21] <OerHeks> info l!ibsdl-ttf2.0-0
[02:21] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares were you able to get your original request solved? try sudo apt-get install wxcam -- it should install now. i'm curious to see if that will work.
[02:21] <OS_Connoisseur> Why do you say that?
[02:22] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: Once VLC installs I will do so
[02:22] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares ok good luck
[02:24] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: No, same error
[02:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares ok try sudo apt-get install libmjpegtools
[02:26] <RonWhoCares> Is 'vlc' 'vlc media player'
[02:26] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: Unable to locate package libmjpegtools
[02:26] <adrian1> q
[02:27] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares maybe try sudo apt-cache search libmjpegtools*
[02:28] <SeriouslyLaugh> oh it's under mjpegtools
[02:28] <SeriouslyLaugh> RonWhoCares do sudo apt-get install mjpegtools mjpegtools-gtk
[02:28] <OpenSorce> So I want to create a bash script that turns my scroll lock light on if it's off and off if it's on. Alternatively, it could just try either one each time it's run :P
[02:29] <RonWhoCares> Any suggestions what I should use for 'Viceo input chroma format' ?
[02:29] <RonWhoCares> mjpg?
[02:29] <Extreminador> guys i just installed the vsftpd, but can´t find the place to config username and password
[02:29] <RonWhoCares> SeriouslyLaugh: Touch down!!!
[02:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> awesome great RonWhoCares
[02:29] <OpenSorce> I know the command to turn it on and off, btw just want to make a toggle script for it. I used to know how to do this... I'm getting old :-(
[02:29] <Extreminador> according to some sites it should have asked me for user and pass when i install it but it did not ask nothing
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> Extreminador: maybe the #vsftpd guys might know?
[02:30] <Extreminador> thanks ther is c channel for that
[02:30] <Extreminador> lool
[02:30] <Extreminador> ty
[02:32] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does anyone know how to block all ICMP timestamps requests and responses on Ubuntu 14.04? :)
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: try the #netfilter channel
[02:34] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Doing it right now.
[02:36] <timmo123> Hi apologies in advance since this is on my phone so it's slow to type
[02:37] <timmo123> I recently updated from 14.04 to 15.04 and rebooted after the update
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: upgrade from lts to non-lts isnt reccomended
[02:38] <timmo123> Regardless, it's 15.04 now
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: how did you upgrade exactly?
[02:38] <RonWhoCares> um
[02:38] <timmo123> The boot menu gets up to the message "started update UTMP about system runlevel changes" and hangs
[02:39] <timmo123> Popup message
[02:39] <anonimo> culos todos
[02:40] <timmo123> I don't normally use ubuntu, almost everything on it is standard
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> !es | anonimo
[02:40] <timmo123> So it would be whatever is installed by default
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: clean install 15.04
[02:40] <RonWhoCares> I don't see video files being created in VLC. even though I specified the path in preferences
[02:40] <timmo123> I don't have an install disk or the ability to make one
[02:40] <Gr4cchus> Hey guys, off topic, but what is that software a bunch of people are using to collaborate on? I remember reading about it on hacker news how the new generations are comming in and implicit or explicitly phasing out irc
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Gr4cchus yes its offtopic
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: you need to enable advanced settings to see vlc's record button
[02:42] <timmo123> Hi sorry
[02:42] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Do you think this "net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts = 1" would work?
[02:43] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: Where is that option?
[02:43] <timmo123> I didn't tap my phone for a second and it disconnected me
[02:43] <timmo123> Lotuspsychje: I might try reinstall from USB since I think my laptop supports it
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: menu before 'help' and set to advanced
[02:44] <timmo123> I can download it at the library or something
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: you could try the 15.04 recoverymode/fix broken packages
[02:44] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: A record button just showed up --- but it isn't clickable
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: ill let you think a bit now :p
[02:45] <timmo123> Lotuspsychje: from the USB you mean?
[02:45] <timmo123> Yeah that's a good idea
[02:45] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | timmo123
[02:47] <lotuspsychje> VictoriaXOXO: im not into iptables sorry, maybe the ##networking guys or #ubuntu-server have more experience?
[02:47] <VictoriaXOXO> lotuspsychje: Okay. :)
[02:56] <Guest_> is there someone her that can help me with an install error. When i get to the part of the install where Grub is supposed to be installed it gives me The machine has Windows 7 already on the drive and i want to dual boot fatal error. t
[02:56] <futurama140> anyone have experience with running old games in wine?
[02:57] <SeriouslyLaugh> Guest_ did you resize your Windows partition?
[02:57] <futurama140> im trying to run kings quest 1 and 2 remake in wine but nomatter what i do the resolution is 320x200
[02:57] <VictoriaXOXO> (I've asked in netfilter, networking, and ubuntu-server, but no one knows?) Q: Hello! How do I FULLY disable ICMP timestamp requests and responses on my Ubuntu 14.04 box? :)
[02:58] <Guest_> I resized the windows partition in windows SeriouslyLaugh by using shrink volume
[02:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> VictoriaXOXO try this? http://www.unix.com/linux/11290-linux-icmp-timestamp-requests.html
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: did you try playonlinux?
[02:58] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: you realise ICMP is only possible on the same network right...
[02:58] <somsip> VictoriaXOXO: do you mean this? http://serverfault.com/questions/47269/how-to-disable-responses-to-ping
[02:58] <futurama140> nope. have no clue how to get that working.
[02:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> Guest_ are you getting a fatal error? i think your original question got cut off
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | futurama140 sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[02:59] <Guest_> SeriouslyLaugh: yeah it says that it is a fatal error
[02:59] <OerHeks> futurama140, that old game was that resolution http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/AGI
[02:59] <OerHeks> :-D
[02:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> Guest_ do you happen to have any more information on the error? like are you able to type exactly what it says?
[02:59] <VictoriaXOXO> SeriouslyLaugh: I've read that thread, but it's from 2003 and the more updated ones are all using different methods. Hmm.
[02:59] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: What do you mean?
[03:00] <somsip> VictoriaXOXO: and the one I pasted from ubuntu with lots of upvotes?
[03:00] <VictoriaXOXO> somsip: Yes, well, I've seen like 83 different variations of that text line.
[03:00] <futurama140> yea i know, but 320x200 is the size of like 4 icons togethr on my screen i need to scale it up so i can actually see it
[03:00] <somsip> VictoriaXOXO: did any of them work?
[03:00] <Ben64> VictoriaXOXO: iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -i eth0 -j DROP
[03:00] <Guest_> SeriouslyLaugh: it says "Executing 'Grub-Install /dev/sda' failed thats it
[03:01] <VictoriaXOXO> somsip: Well, I don't know which one to test. I don't even know how to check for ICMP requests after trying one of them. XD
[03:01] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: if you're behind a NAT router, only devices on your local network can hit your host with ICMP queries.
[03:01] <Ben64> VictoriaXOXO: then why do you want to block them?
[03:01] <daftykins> Ben64: paranoid user that reads things then instantly wants to stop them, happened a lot in the last week or so
[03:01] <somsip> VictoriaXOXO: test them all, figure out why you're doing what you're doing otherwise the whole point is moot.
[03:01] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: This one has nothing to do with paranoia.
[03:02] <Ben64> "If you don't know what it's for, don't mess with it" is my philosophy
[03:02] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: oh, do tell
[03:02] <VictoriaXOXO> Ben64: So if a dentist suggests something to you under an operation, and you don't know what it means, you decline? XD
[03:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> sorry, how is this ubuntu related?
[03:03] <Guest_> SeriouslyLaugh: was that for me?
[03:03] <Ben64> in that scenario, the dentist is messing with it, and I'd hope he knows what it's for
[03:03] <SeriouslyLaugh> no
[03:03] <somsip> SeriouslyLaugh: the original query was, but you're right - theory and reasoning is off topic
[03:03] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/RbVRmRqn
[03:03] <Ben64> VictoriaXOXO: doesn't answer the "why?"
[03:03] <SeriouslyLaugh> Guest_ I don't have any personal experience with that error, but googling it gave me a few forums where people had a similar error and some people posted replies to help them solve it
[03:04] <SeriouslyLaugh> i can't vouch for any of these links but here is one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/459620/unable-to-install-grub-in-dev-sda-when-installing-grub
[03:04] <VictoriaXOXO> Ben64: You never follow recommendations from the people that wrote the software you want to use?
[03:04] <Ben64> VictoriaXOXO: and turning icmp off on your computer won't affect your router at all
[03:04] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: who provided this...
[03:05] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Pre_Install_Advice#Linux
[03:05] <daftykins> Ben64: i think this is more for a VPN VictoriaXOXO uses, again from the paranoia angle
[03:05] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Nothing to do with a VPN.
[03:05] <VictoriaXOXO> Stop spreading FUD.
[03:05] <daftykins> fact.
[03:05] <VictoriaXOXO> I just proved you 100% wrong. Lol.
[03:06] <daftykins> then as i say, ICMP doesn't leap past the router
[03:06] <somsip> VictoriaXOXO: and whonix has it's own IRC channel so ask there https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Support
[03:06] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Oh, you always know best. :)
[03:06] <VictoriaXOXO> somsip: Okay. :)
[03:06] <daftykins> well, i understand what ICMP is if that's what you mean...
[03:09] <timmo123> Hi lotuspsychje update
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: did you got in?
[03:09] <timmo123> I followed the recovery mode guide and I now have a terminal open
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: from the recoverymode you should choose 'fix broken packages' not the terminal
[03:11] <timmo123> Oh, well it didn't quite happen the way the page said
[03:11] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: quick disk remount as rw first, no? :)
[03:11] <daftykins> <-- hasn't been following so feel free to ignore
[03:11] <timmo123> After I chose the recovery mode option it just booted me into terminal
[03:11] <AcidRain> i have a linksys wifi adapter, its not showing up in ifconfig. but it is listed in lsusb
[03:11] <AcidRain> how can i solve this issue?
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: he upgraded trusty to 15.04 somehow, we testing if we can repair before clean :p
[03:12] <syeekick> www.pastebin.com/2a9M0Hhd I removed open ssh totally with apt-get purge and i still get this "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" error. I've tried googling but it keeps pointing to the same resoultion which simply does not work. Can someone help me please
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: reboot again into the recovery and try 'fix broken packages' its an option
[03:12] <syeekick> its over a local network and im trying to ssh to my ubuntu machine
[03:13] <timmo123> Ok I'll try it again
[03:13] <daftykins> syeekick: your ~/.ssh will have remained.
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> AcidRain: sudo lshw -C network shows driver= ?
[03:13] <syeekick> i figured purge would of got rid of them too :-(
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> AcidRain: ubuntu version?
[03:15] <AcidRain> lotuspsychje, im on kali
[03:15] <timmo123> So first I hit shift which put me into the grub menu, then I selected advanced options, then recovery mode, then there's loading, then it asks for the passphrase to decrypt the disk (I have disk encryption), after that it loads daemons services etc
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> !kali | AcidRain
[03:15] <AcidRain> :/
[03:15] <timmo123> Some fail to load, most load ok
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: why did you upgrade to 15.04 exactly?
[03:17] <RonWhoCares> I am getting a VLC error in the video An Error Occurred Could not demuliplex stream'
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: after doing what
[03:17] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: Trying to record a video
[03:18] <RonWhoCares> Then I was playing back the video
[03:18] <timmo123> Now it's at the login prompt
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: you have the right graphics drivers enabled?
[03:18] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: I honestly don't know.
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: you can check perhaps
[03:18] <timmo123> Nothing came up with a fix broken packages option
[03:19] <syeekick> yeah still no luck
[03:19] <syeekick> i don't know what im doing :(
[03:19] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: I am able to play other videos; just not what is recorded through VLC
[03:19] <timmo123> Lotuspsychje: the machine hadn't been updated in a while, it prompted for an update to 15.04 along with other updates, I said yes
[03:21] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: Yes, the correct graphic driver is enabled
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: then you was on 14.10?
[03:21] <timmo123> No, I was on 14.04, pretty sure
[03:22] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: install mediainfo and run it with "mediainfo -all <your file>" then put that in a paste on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: did you see options like these: http://www.hecticgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/recovery-mode-options-in-Ubuntu-12.04.jpg
[03:22] <timmo123> No, nothing like that
[03:22] <timmo123> That menu never came up
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: do you play them with vlc
[03:22] <timmo123> It went straight from selecting recovery mode in grub to login
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: if recoverymode cant get you in, i strongly advise you clean install mate
[03:23] <timmo123> Is there a way I can run it from that terminal?
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: you can try several things like updating your system to latest
[03:24] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: Yes, I am able to play videos through VLC
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade, see if that brings you further
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: but not the ones you recorded?
[03:24] <timmo123> Ok, I'll try that
[03:25] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: Correct
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: what extension the video have? .mkv?
[03:26] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: It has come up with .avi
[03:26] <syeekick> is there a way i can reset my ssh config files to default?
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> RonWhoCares: try what daftykins suggested
[03:26] <daftykins> .avi is a video container format, it provides no indication of the codecs used within for audio and video - thus the mediainfo output is needed.
[03:27] <daftykins> syeekick: rename .ssh to .sshold
[03:28] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: I was working on this steps while answering your questions
[03:28] <RonWhoCares> daftykins: This is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/13499110/
[03:30] <syeekick> mv /etc/ssh/ssh_config ssh_old will that do it?
[03:30] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: have you installed "ubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[03:31] <RonWhoCares> no; I am now installing it
[03:32] <RonWhoCares> installed
[03:32] <RonWhoCares> daftykins: Done
[03:33] <daftykins> now close and reopen VLC and try playing the file again
[03:33] <daftykins> actually i don't know why i said that since VLC won't use what was installed :D
[03:33] <RonWhoCares> daftykins: I still have that same error. DO I need to reboot?
[03:34] <daftykins> no
[03:34] <daftykins> one moment
[03:34] <syeekick> daftykins, did you look at the paste bin?
[03:34] <daftykins> yes...
[03:34] <daftykins> syeekick: why did you have something to add?
[03:36] <syeekick> i don't see why im getting the same error after reinstalling ssh and deleting all configs
[03:37] <timmo123> Lotuspsychje: no dice, it says network is unreachable for no reason I can figure out since it's weird
[03:37] <daftykins> syeekick: oh did you paste? didn't see one. "mv ~/.ssh ~/.sshold" .
[03:37] <timmo123> Wired
[03:37] <timmo123> Can't ping 4.4.4.4
[03:37] <timmo123> I'm gonna reinstall I think
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: did you choose terminal with network support
[03:37] <timmo123> Oh, that would be a reason
[03:38] <timmo123> Again there were no options
[03:38] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: open a terminal and try "vlc --rawvid-fps 24 --rawvid-width 640 --rawvid-height 480 --rawvid-chroma I422 ~/Videos/Webcam/vlc-record-2015-11-24-22h16m02s-v4l2____dev_video0-.avi"
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: right, clean install and make your life easy
[03:38] <timmo123> After I selected recovery mode it dumped me into a terminal
[03:38] <timmo123> Yeah
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: and make the right choice between lts or non-lts
[03:38] <timmo123> Thanks for the help
[03:38] <HackerII> go for 15.10
[03:38] <syeekick> http://pastebin.com/2a9M0Hhd yeah this paste bin <
[03:38] <HackerII> it rox
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> timmo123: you never told me why you moved from 14.04?
[03:39] <timmo123> Well it probably would have been fine if the machine had been used
[03:39] <Abe> hello I have a little problem. youtube does not work fullscreen anymore. it's in a wrong resolution since a new firefox update. It now looks like this http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=89243075 have the html5 player
[03:39] <Bashing-om> timmo123: Networking : ' systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ; systemctl start NetworkManager.service ' .
[03:39] <daftykins> syeekick: oh you've messed with /etc/ssh/ssh_config huh? it's pointing at line 19... i suggest you... look at line 19.
[03:40] <timmo123> Lotuspsychje: I haven't used the machine in maybe a year, I'm used to .04 being lts and .10 volatile
[03:40] <daftykins> LTS is only every 2 years :) 14.04 + 16.04
[03:40] <timmo123> It prompted me for a ton of updates including 15.04, I figured it was the next lts and hit yes for all
[03:40] <syeekick> yeah it says host
[03:40] <daftykins> syeekick: that's useless to me
[03:41] <RonWhoCares> daftykins: That works.
[03:41] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: \o/
[03:41] <daftykins> audio too?
[03:41] <RonWhoCares> Yes
[03:41] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: may i ask what webcam created this?
[03:41] <daftykins> and what application
[03:42] <RonWhoCares> The web cam is the built in HP G61
[03:42] <daftykins> mmhmm
[03:42] <RonWhoCares> The video was made by VLC Media Player
[03:42] <daftykins> ah ok
[03:42] <daftykins> oh of course, the file name *facepalm*
[03:42] <daftykins> 'raw' is definitely a bad choice :)
[03:42] <RonWhoCares> What would you suggest I use
[03:42] <timmo123> Bashing-om: no such file or directory
[03:43] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: i don't have a clue what VLC offers you
[03:43] <syeekick> ahh shit
[03:43] <daftykins> syeekick: inappropriate language
[03:43] <syeekick> sorry about that
[03:44] <syeekick> im looking through my bash history and it seems i put "rm -r ssh/"as one of my commands out of frustration
[03:44] <daftykins> well ssh/ isn't a path
[03:45] <syeekick> seems my /etc/ssh directory has gone
[03:46] <Bashing-om> timmo123: 15.04 init is systemd .. those are systemd commands to start networking .. recon you are still on upstart ?
[03:47] <daftykins> syeekick: "dpkg -l | grep ssh | nc termbin.com 9999"
[03:47] <timmo123> It said 15.04 when booting, but it's in recovery mode with a maybe failed upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04
[03:48] <Bashing-om> timmo123: ' ps -p1 | grep systemd && echo systemd || echo upstart ' see if you are now systemd or upstart .
[03:49] <timmo123> You're right, it says upstart
[03:50] <timmo123> Hah
[03:50] <syeekick> i put that and it says http://terminbin.com/act4
[03:50] <timmo123> I found an old install disk that I think is 14.04
[03:50] <timmo123> I'm gonna try it
[03:51] <Bashing-om> timmo123: I realy think best at this time to do a clean fresh install .. as you failed to make the translation of the system over to systemd . BUT I could be wrong .
[03:51] <timmo123> Bashing-om: Yeah fair enough
[03:51] <timmo123> I didn't think I had an install disk before but turns out I did i think
[03:52] <daftykins> syeekick: "sudo apt-get purge openssh-client openssh-server openssh-sftp-server && sudo apt-get clean" then ensure /etc/ssh/ is empty; then reinstall them
[03:54] <syeekick> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1
[03:55] <syeekick> wait i'll get a screen shot
[03:56] <daftykins> syeekick: no, we don't screenshot text... we pastebin it
[03:56] <daftykins> though imgur may have popularised images of text being the norm, it's wrong ;)
[03:57] <syeekick> i would lol but its on my headless machien that now has a head
[03:58] <daftykins> blech
[04:00] <syeekick> https://imgur.com/NeJ7TpL
[04:00] <syeekick> my hands were shaking
[04:03] <syeekick> https://imgur.com/24fiJsn much better picutre daftykins
[04:04] <syeekick> ok /etc/ssh is empty but looking at the output of that command it seems nothing was removed or uninstalled
[04:04] <daftykins> syeekick: you know, such situations are easy - you see the part where it fails so you just satisfy those issues then re-run.
[04:05] <daftykins> so what's it saying? /etc/ssh doesn't exist... so i'd create it
[04:05] <daftykins> that will satisfy the removal script
[04:05] <k1l_> workaround: just create a /etc/ssh/
[04:06] <syeekick> ok so mkdir /etc/ssh
[04:07] <daftykins> i don't like that you use your system as root :)
[04:07] <daftykins> note you don't need to use 'sudo' when you are
[04:07] <syeekick> force of habit
[04:13] <syeekick> dpkg: error processing package openssh-server (--purge) subprocess installed post-removal script error exit status 1 opeen ssh-server E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code 1 < new error
[04:14] <syeekick> wait
[04:14] <daftykins> "opeen ssh-server"
[04:14] <syeekick> its gone
[04:14] <daftykins> ah just your type up i guess :P
[04:14] <daftykins> ok don't forget the "apt-get clean"
[04:14] <syeekick> ok sweet
[04:14] <syeekick> im on track
[04:18] <syeekick> ok they are all installed and still getting the same error on my client box
[04:19] <daftykins> right but you're meant to move the ~/.ssh on the client end right
[04:19] <syeekick> oh i did that on the server end
[04:20] <daftykins> :D
[04:20] <streamit> All of you suck especially k1l_!! Ubuntu needs to stop pretending it's not Linux! Ubuntu needs to stop being adware for Amazon! Ubuntu sends everything you type in Unity to Canonical! Ubuntu spies on you more than Windows!
[04:23] <syeekick> well that told us
[04:25] <syeekick> daftykins thanks for all your help
[04:25] <daftykins> working?
[04:25] <syeekick> no but i can't bug you anymore it's not fair
[04:26] <daftykins> well at least provide a fresh pastebin so someone knows
[04:26] <daftykins> +what to work with
[04:28] <syeekick> would using telnet and setting to listen only over local be a dangerous thing to do?
[04:29] <daftykins> syeekick: lol, just fix it
[04:32] <McPeter> syeekick, what problem ? (if i can help)
[04:32] <Valfor> hey guys, after performing an upgrade from ubuntu 15.04 -> 15.10, during the upgrade (and since), any pip3 installs crash, as well as apt-get commands, with a KeyError:'_convert' in enum34 as per http://paste.ubuntu.com/13499615/
[04:33] <Valfor> I've tried reinstalling relevant packages, tried install enum with pip, tried reinstalling pip, etc. Does anyone have any further suggestions? I'd appreciate it :)
[04:34] <daftykins> Valfor: i'd boot live media, chroot into your install and then dpkg-reconfigure -a
[04:35] <Valfor> daftykins: no worries, I'll check it out - thanks
[04:35] <Valfor> wasn't sure if it was a conflict 3.4 and 3.5 conflict
[04:35] <Valfor> python 3.4, and 3.5 **
[04:35] <daftykins> does look like it's complaining over that a bit
[04:35] <Valfor> I'll try it out and see how we go :) I was thinking of removing 3.4, and just going with 3.5
[04:35] <syeekick> http://pastebin.com/2a9M0Hhd this is the problem that occurs when i run ssh in verbose mode
[04:35] <Valfor> but it was gonna remove so many other things :P haha
[04:36] <syeekick> i tired reinstalling and using default config files too
[04:36] <daftykins> McPeter: ^
[04:37] <daftykins> ssh'ing as root is definitely blargh =|
[04:37] <McPeter> syeekick, connect root ?
[04:37] <utu8o> hello friends :)
[04:37] <McPeter> u sure ?
[04:38] <syeekick> that wont work either
[04:39] <daftykins> try as the normal user
[04:39] <McPeter> +1
[04:39] <daftykins> and i hope you're not root on the client end too :P
[04:39] <McPeter> :)
[04:39] <daftykins> looks like you are *sigh*
[05:02] <twank> Hello has anyone used linux for music use?
[05:02] <twank> like digital audio stuff
[05:03] <daftykins> that'd be more appropriate to ##linux unless you have a direct ubuntu support question regarding it?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !studio | twank
[05:03] <twank> i tried KX studio
[05:03] <twank> loved it
[05:04] <twank> i had a dreadful time getting my guitar going with jack, is there an IRC channel for linuxaudio?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> twank: see what daftykins suggested you
[05:05] <daftykins> !alis
[05:06] <twank> kk
[05:06] <slavka`> thanks for your help guys
[05:07] <daftykins> err when was any given?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:07] <twank> piss
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> !language | twank
[05:08] <twank> makes sense that the best bot is on the Ubuntu IRC channel eh?
[05:08] <twank> oh my bot
[05:08] <twank> you didn't flag that
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> twank: stop it please, only ubuntu support here
[05:09] <twank> You are so right, really as a Linux user i feelf bad, very sorry
[05:10] <SentientTootsieR> Hey All. I'm running a teamspeak 3 server and I got it up and running originally and everything was fine. Since I want the server to execute on startup, I added a crontab -e entry for it. Not, it says the server is running but I can't connect to it for some reason. Any ideas?
[05:10] <SentientTootsieR> Now*
[05:11] <twank> can ya ping it?
[05:11] <SentientTootsieR> Yeah
[05:11] <SentientTootsieR> I can connect to the http server no problem
[05:12] <twank> maybe something missing from the cron job?
[05:12] <twank> what happens if you delete the crom job?
[05:12] <SentientTootsieR> I was able to connect to the ts3 server earlier, no i cant suddenly.. hold on, i'll post what I put in the crontab thing
[05:12] <twank> kk
[05:12] <SentientTootsieR> @reboot /var/ts/teamspeak3-server_linux-amd64/ts3server_startscript.sh start
[05:13] <daftykins> is this from their own docs of how to do it?
[05:13] <SentientTootsieR> not sure if var is a good place to put it, but i figured it would be
[05:13] <SentientTootsieR> kinda.. http://forum.teamspeak.com/threads/67834-How-To-install-TeamSpeak-3-0-0-Server-CentOS
[05:14] <SentientTootsieR> it says centos, but there's a section for debian based distros
[05:14] <daftykins> check the server is listening with "netstat -tuln"
[05:14] <SentientTootsieR> i see tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:30033 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[05:14] <SentientTootsieR> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[05:14] <SentientTootsieR> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:10011 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[05:14] <SentientTootsieR> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[05:14] <SentientTootsieR> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:139
[05:15] <daftykins> don't paste here.
[05:15] <SentientTootsieR> oh, sorry
[05:15] <inteus> !pb | SentientTootsieR
[05:15] <daftykins> you'd see the port # of the server as you configured it, if it's up
[05:16] <SentientTootsieR> t
[05:16] <twank> i must say this a very nice bunch of folks
[05:16] <SentientTootsieR> here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13499906/
[05:16] <SentientTootsieR> hmm, let me check something
[05:16] <SentientTootsieR> yeah, thats why i love ubuntu. so many helpful people ;)
[05:16] <SentientTootsieR> like you guys, lol
[05:16] <daftykins> twank: we can fix that too ;)
[05:17] <SentientTootsieR> i see some of the ts3 ports listed, but not all. for example, voice uses port 9987, but it's not listed. i see 3033 which IS a ts3 port and it's lasted. how confusing :O
[05:18] <SentientTootsieR> listed*
[05:18] <daftykins> so your client should have connection logs
[05:18] <SentientTootsieR> it was working a moment ago
[05:18] <daftykins> kill the ts process then invoke that script manually to test
[05:21] <SentientTootsieR> it's saying that it started, but crashed and i need to find a ts log file... hold on
[05:21] <daftykins> you did kill the existing first right? if you didn't they'll be port binding errors.
[05:22] <SentientTootsieR> yeah, i did "kill 681", 681 being the proccess i believe
[05:22] <SentientTootsieR> suppose i could reboot just to be safe
[05:26] <SentientTootsieR> ok so i removed it from the cronjob and started it manually and it worked o_o
[05:26] <SentientTootsieR> and for some reason, i cant view the logs
[05:29] <Lope> where can I get a list of generally acceptable root CA's for my ubuntu openSSL installation
[05:32] <SentientTootsieR> this maybe? https://www.geotrust.com/resources/root-certificates/
[05:47] <TheRinger_> Heard there was nice folks here
[05:49] <daftykins> that depends :)
[05:54] <therue> are there websites that helps you discover interesting linux software/applications? better yet, one that allows you to find and compare all software of the same type?
[05:55] <daftykins> alternativeto.net
[06:03] <joeytwiddle> Is there any good reason why I would install java 6 instead of java 7? (Ubuntu 12.04 default-jdk package points to java6-jdk)
[06:03] <daftykins> i believe oracle have murdered both 6 and 7 now; 8 is current
[06:04] <nitish> How can I install wine offline? Means where can I find full .deb package?
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> !info wine | nitish
[06:07] <nitish> ubottu: you are useless bot.
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> nitish: loose the attitude
[06:09] <nitish> I am searching a way so that I can install wine offlie.
[06:09] <nitish> #offline.
[06:09] <daftykins> packages.ubuntu.com <-- download them.
[06:09] <daftykins> snag all the deps too
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> nitish: you need to get online first to download something
[06:10] <nitish> lotspsychje: I can download with ms windows.
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nitish: then see the url daftykins provided
[06:10] <nitish> lotuspsychje: I've unlimited bandwidth access in ms windows but limited in ubuntu.
[06:10] <nitish> where?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> nitish: scroll up
[06:11] <daftykins> limited bandwidth per OS o0 wat
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:12] <nitish> lotspsychje: there is no scroll up option. :(
[06:12] <SentientTootsieR> nit, what version of ubunt are you running?
[06:12] <daftykins> there always is
[06:12] <goddard> one of my USB ports isn't recognized.
[06:12] <daftykins> grep your dmesg for any "hci" errors
[06:13] <joeytwiddle> i don't think it's that easy to get all the dependencies for wine while you are in windows. it will depend what you have already installed on your Ubuntu.
[06:13] <daftykins> it's easy with the packages.ubuntu.com page
[06:14] <dionysus69> hello everyone, I am troubleshooting hibernation with sudo program running, so I noticed that if I leave sudo program running and hibernate, the system hangs on resume. The reason I have sudo program running is I am accessing raw disk using virtualbox, it is a vmdk file couple KB big pointing to the whole SSD. how can I change permissions in order to use that vmdk file without sudo? It needed to be created using sudo so if I chown to the curr
[06:14] <SentientTootsieR> yeah it's right here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[06:14] <SentientTootsieR> you just have to search by your ubuntu version
[06:14] <joeytwiddle> recursively!
[06:14] <daftykins> and grab all deps
[06:15] <nitish> How can I run 32-bit application from my 64-bit system?
[06:15] <joeytwiddle> if i was nitish i would get VirtualBox and use that to boot up Ubuntu, and do the install while still in Windows/AOL
[06:15] <daftykins> like what
[06:15] <daftykins> joeytwiddle: lot more work for a simple task
[06:15] <daftykins> i'd fix the ubuntu wireless driver so there's no 'bandwidth' problem myself ;)
[06:16] <SentientTootsieR> dion, i dont believe you can change permission on a file without sudo
[06:16] <joeytwiddle> nitish, install ia32-libs (and maybe ia32-libs-gtk and ia32-libs-sdl)
[06:16] <futurama140> hey guys, im having some odd issues:
[06:17] <SentientTootsieR> so am i ;)
[06:17] <SentientTootsieR> bit im helping other people instead lol
[06:17] <nitish> joeytwiddle: E: Unable to locate package ia32-libs-gtk
[06:17] <daftykins> joeytwiddle: pretty sure that's an outdated approach
[06:18] <Flechas> Hey guys, quick question. Long story short, I'd like to know how can I revert to Nouveau from recovery. from the command line. Basically i'd like to try to switch to nvidia proprietary drivers and last time it wouldn't get past the purple screen. any way to boot into recovery and revert to Nouveau driver?
[06:18] <SentientTootsieR> joey, try "dpkg --add-architecture i386" firsty
[06:18] <SentientTootsieR> first*
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Flechas: recoverymode/fix broken packages can help
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Flechas: or manually remove nvidia driver and reinstall nouveau
[06:19] <Flechas> but I can do all that from recovery, right?
[06:19] <daftykins> Flechas: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[06:19] <daftykins> done
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Flechas: if things go right yes
[06:20] <Flechas> I'll google how to do that. Basically I want to try all the different drivers and see which one works best, but last time I tried, I couldn't find a way aroaund. eded up reinstallind. that takes too long :P
[06:20] <daftykins> what card do you have?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Flechas: ubuntu version and card chipset?
[06:20] <daftykins> version chasing is pretty pointless
[06:21] <Flechas> there might be something else to the problem as well. I'm dualbooting osx and ubuntu
[06:21] <daftykins> on a mac or...
[06:21] <Flechas> 15.10 Geforce GT 330M
[06:21] <SentientTootsieR> hackintosh?
[06:21] <futurama140> hello? am i connected?
[06:22] <raspberrypifan> futurama140:
[06:22] <SentientTootsieR> could be some propietary apple bs interfering
[06:22] <Flechas> naaa, just dualbooting with Refind
[06:22] <OerHeks> SentientTootsieR this is wrong > joey, try "dpkg --add-architecture i386" as ubuntu is already multiarch
[06:22] <futurama140> oi. i have no idea if my question even posted because i keep getting DCed
[06:22] <SentientTootsieR> Then maybe he needs to add something to the repository?
[06:22] <Flechas> also, its a mid 2010 and the GPU messes up with the logicboard already in osx. thats why I installed ubuntu. couldn't take the crashes anymore :P
[06:23] <joeytwiddle> maybe you don't want to use hardware accelerated drivers at all!
[06:24] <futurama140> i hope this isnt spamming
[06:24] <Flechas> thats correct as well. maybe I don't. it just adds new pretty features :P
[06:24] <Flechas> it would be nice. just want to try and revert easy
[06:24] <joeytwiddle> futurama140, none of us can hear you :(
[06:24] <joeytwiddle> futurama140, j/k. we didn't see your odd issue, just that you had one ;)
[06:24] <daftykins> Flechas: then it's got hardware issues, an OS Isn't going to avoid that
[06:25] <futurama140> im in a hotel, and using a laptop with 14.04 and a monopiece wireless N adapter
[06:25] <futurama140> my wifi is intermitent at best
[06:25] <futurama140> the router is a netgear home router ssid: NETGEAR60 and is located probably 50 feet away
[06:25] <futurama140> when i try plugging the usb wifi into a usb extension cord it will not connect to the network at all.
[06:25] <futurama140> neither the pie tin parabolic antenna nor a pringles cantenna are boosting my signal at all, most likely because i just get no connection period when the wifi is on a usb extension
[06:25] <futurama140> anyone have any idea why im getting any of these problems?
[06:25] <SentientTootsieR> woah
[06:25] <joeytwiddle> that is spamming though. the bot says so!
[06:25] <SentientTootsieR> yeah looks like your hotel's shitty wifi can't transmit anything quickly enough
[06:25] <daftykins> yes, cheap USB extension = can't provide enough power
[06:25] <daftykins> !language | SentientTootsieR
[06:26] <Flechas> daftykins: I hear you, but so far it has done just that. when I'm on OSX, it crashes at very specific instances (certain websites, external monitor conect), but in Ubuntu, I'm just hanging out. no crashes. its great
[06:26] <daftykins> speed has nothing to do with signal.
[06:26] <Flechas> now it would be nice to use the extra features of the GPU
[06:26] <joeytwiddle> oooh there was a command i used to send to our dodgy WiFi USB to tell it to draw less power
[06:26] <futurama140> is there any way to work around this?
[06:26] <daftykins> less power is just going to make the signal weaker ¬_¬
[06:27] <daftykins> yes buy a better adapter
[06:27] <daftykins> Flechas: not sure if so ancient a chip can be used with prime, you'll need nvidia-331 or newer with nvidia-prime installed
[06:27] <SentientTootsieR> it might. have you used public wifi? it sucks
[06:27] <Flechas> something like that I've been reading online. yessss
[06:27] <joeytwiddle> daftykins, in our case it stopped the device from failing altogether
[06:28] <futurama140> i tried increasing the power to the usb wifi to "30" (whatever that means) but the hardware wont allow it
[06:28] <futurama140> im having the same issues with my cyanogenmod nook tablet as well.
[06:28] <daftykins> sounds more like you're talking about disabling power management, not reducing power
[06:28] <daftykins> futurama140: move room...
[06:28] <daftykins> i really don't see how anything OS based can do anything for you
[06:28] <SentientTootsieR> ask the front desk person to reset the router?
[06:29] <futurama140> daftykins: yea i wish
[06:29] <joeytwiddle> futurama140, i think this was the command we used. try out less imo. http://askubuntu.com/questions/328418/how-to-increase-power-of-wifi-adapter
[06:29] <daftykins> what's so dream requiring about changing a room o0
[06:29] <joeytwiddle> daftykins, it worked. i was there. you weren't. :P
[06:29] <daftykins> joeytwiddle: well that's nice
[06:29] <daftykins> unfortunately anecdotal evidence is worth 0 in the real world
[06:30] <futurama140> my hotel is packed
[06:30] <futurama140> its where parole puts people who just got out of prison so its always packed
[06:30] <SentientTootsieR> if it's anecdotal, is it really evidence?
[06:30] <OerHeks> messing with txpower does not work that way.
[06:30] <futurama140> sure, just not scientifically accredited evidence
[06:31] <Apteryx> Is Nautilus using samba to connect to smb:// adresses? I tried using the "Connect to server" button to connect to a Windows share, and it always fail with: Unhandled error message: Failed to mount Windows share: Invalid argument
[06:31] <functionoverform> messing with txpower via a power supply and homemade antenna on the other hand...
[06:31] <Apteryx> But if I try on the command line using smbclient, it works!
[06:31] <daftykins> Apteryx: did you type smb://IP address/sharename ?
[06:31] <Apteryx> daftykins: I used the domain name
[06:32] <daftykins> you mean host name?
[06:32] <Apteryx> But I did try using the IP, and got the same error. I'll try again just to make sure.
[06:32] <Apteryx> daftykins: yes, sorry, host name.
[06:32] <SentientTootsieR> Would \\hostname\folder work?
[06:32] <SentientTootsieR> just a guess
[06:32] <Apteryx> SentientTootsieR: Actually I have no choice to use a folder, because the root is restricted.
[06:32] <daftykins> well, wrong direction slashes and i don't think nautilus behaves like explorer on Windows, no
[06:33] <futurama140> joeytwiddle: Error for wireless request "Set Tx Power" (8B26) :
[06:33] <futurama140> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted.
[06:33] <SentientTootsieR> ah ok
[06:33] <Apteryx> daftykins: the annoying part is I have to leave irssi to test (VPN on a network that blocks irc port... duh)
[06:33] <daftykins> you have to create a registry key called LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy and set it to '1' on win7+ to allow users to auth remotely against admin shares such as host/c$
[06:34] <daftykins> not that i've memorised that or anything... *whistle*
[06:34] <Apteryx> daftykins: OK, but this is a corporate network, I cannot change the settings freely :)
[06:34] <Apteryx> daftykins: the strange thing is I could connect using smbclient.
[06:34] <daftykins> how come you're file sharing then o0
[06:35] <daftykins> well you could just mount it via CLI
[06:35] <Apteryx> daftykins: What do you mean. The drive is there. I'm supposed to be able to access it as long as I have valid credentials. I don't think I read I had to use Windows exclusively to access it anywhere.
[06:35] <daftykins> sudo mount -t cifs //IP/share /mnt -o username=blah,password=blah,iocharset=utf8
[06:36] <daftykins> sudo mount -t cifs //IP/share /mnt -o username=blah,password=blah,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000
[06:36] <daftykins> :D
[06:36] <daftykins> ah well it's your job not mine :>
[06:37] <Apteryx> haha, OK, let me try that. But do you know what Nautilus is doing under the hood? I'd like to understand why it fails... I'm not even sure what logs it would output to.
[06:37] <futurama140> no way to make my wifi better then, eh?
[06:37] <daftykins> futurama140: doubt it's the OS's fault
[06:37] <daftykins> move room or buy a better adapter
[06:38] <daftykins> Apteryx: does nautilus even get as far as prompting for login details?
[06:39] <Apteryx> daftykins: yes
[06:39] <daftykins> and you enter DOMAIN\username and password?
[06:39] <Apteryx> daftykins: There is a field for DOMAIN, so yes, I enter it.
[06:40] <daftykins> and you could run nautilus from the terminal to see error output
[06:40] <Apteryx> daftykins: that's a good idea
[06:40] <Apteryx> Let me try these 2 things... I'll have to quit irc for a couple minutes.
[06:41] <Apteryx> Thanks for the help if I don't see you again :)
[06:41] <daftykins> it's pretty much law you have to report back!
[06:41] <daftykins> :P
[06:41] <Apteryx> daftykins: hehe alright :)
[06:54] <imran_> hi
[07:01] <Apteryx> daftykins: It seems it cannot resolve the IP based on the host name: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13500652/ (I found this in /var/log/kern.log after trying to mount the share with mount.cifs
[07:12] <lemmy> hello
[07:13] <lemmy> i have this error i need assistance *Wifi is disabled by a hardware switch*
[07:13] <functionoverform> lol, is there a physical hardware switch you accidentally hit?
[07:32] <pragomer_1> hi. how can I change in /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober windows7 entry from "Windows 7 on /dev/sda5" to "Windows 7" ?
[07:34] <stangeland> I have attached a disk via usb 3, and the following comes up in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13500810/ For some reason the disk is not being mounted. in that paste there is a line saying: sdb: unknown partition table. Is that the reason why its not being mounted?
[07:40] <Skrank> morning
[07:40] <imran_> whats up
[07:40] <imran_> its so quite in here
[07:41] <Skrank> yeah, its to early in the morning yet i guess
[07:44] <futurama140> hey, how do i install an... uh tar.zx file?
[07:46] <Ignaz> good morning :-)
[07:46] <futurama140> hey, how do i install an... uh tar.zx file?
[07:47] <Ignaz> someone know if is possible to set the "noatime" attribute not for a partiton but for a directory?
[07:47] <Ignaz> futurama140, you must expand the .zx file
[07:47] <Ignaz> its something like tar.gz
[07:47] <OpenSorce> Does Ubuntu not let me select the default sound device on my machine natively?
[07:47] <Ignaz> tar xvfJ filename.tar.xz
[07:47] <Abe> well tar is something like an compressed rar or zip file
[07:47] <rogger_h> Hello, anyone free?
[07:47] <futurama140> ignaz: its expanded. what do i do with all the files and folders in it?
[07:48] <AnakinSky> rogger_h, what's up?
[07:48] <futurama140> whats the difference between a tar.zx and tar.gx ?
[07:48] <OpenSorce> AnakinSky, you're not on IRC as root are you? :-P
[07:48] <Ignaz> futurama140, not sure which programm installation it is but i think this is helpfull --> https://robots.thoughtbot.com/the-magic-behind-configure-make-make-install
[07:49] <rogger_h> im looking for sys admin
[07:49] <Ignaz> .xz has a another compressing
[07:49] <futurama140> do both work in ubuntu?
[07:49] <Ignaz> not sure at the moment but i guess it was better for binfiles
[07:49] <OpenSorce> rogger_h, of this irc network? You'll want to look in #freenode
[07:49] <AnakinSky> OpenSorce, oh wait.. :P
[07:50] <rogger_h> but here are all the linux specialists
[07:50] <rogger_h> why would i go to #freenode
[07:51] <OpenSorce> rogger_h, that's why I asked if you are looking for an admin of this network or not :-)
[07:51] <Ignaz> my question again - someone know if is possible to set the "noatime" attribute not for a partiton but for a directory?
[07:54] <rogger_h> OpenSorce: lol I mean Sys Admin
[07:55] <rogger_h> linux specialist
[07:55] <AnakinSky> OpenSorce, effed up config file.. :P
[07:55] <AnakinSky> corrected
[07:55] <rogger_h> that can help me with myserver (for payment)
[07:55] <rogger_h> or free , what ever he/she decide
[07:56] <OpenSorce> AnakinSky, cool. Just didn't want you to get compromised. If you're logged into your machine as root right now it would be bad news.
[07:57] <AnakinSky> OpenSorce, nope.. it's just the config.. :) thanks for noticing
[07:58] <OpenSorce> AnakinSky, no worries :-)
[07:58] <AnakinSky> honestly i'm new to this whole IRC chatting..
[07:58] <vickycq> Does 16.04 still use /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:58] <fcs> cek
[07:59] <Kartagis> http://paste.debian.net/335845/ <--- how is this possible?
[08:01] <geirha> Kartagis: what does ''type ls'' output?
[08:02] <futurama140> how do i install files in a tar file?
[08:02] <kerdel> futurama140: tar is like a zip file
[08:02] <Kartagis> geirha: ls is aliased to `ls --color=auto'
[08:02] <OpenSorce> Now my question again, is Ubuntu not able to natively change the default audio output device?
[08:03] <kerdel> futurama140: u have to untar it first
[08:03] <VenomByte> futurama140: look here for info http://askubuntu.com/questions/25347/what-command-do-i-need-to-unzip-extract-a-tar-gz-file
[08:03] <OpenSorce> I mean I can edit files and reboot to get it done, but no way to do it on the fly?
[08:03] <geirha> Kartagis: Hm. Ok. Could also be mkdir is an alias or function that does something different, or it could be fd 1 (stdout) has been redirected elsewhere
[08:03] <futurama140> yea i know. ive extracted the tar file. what do i do with the stuff in it?
[08:04] <VenomByte> futurama140: depends, what did u download?
[08:04] <Kartagis> geirha: mkdir is hashed (/bin/mkdir)
[08:04] <VenomByte> OpenSorce: yes you can switch audio output on the fly
[08:04] <VenomByte> OpenSorce: what are you trying to edit?
[08:05] <futurama140> venombyte: CRDA and wireless-regdb
[08:05] <OpenSorce> VenomByte, how would I do that? I haven't found that functionality in Unity.
[08:05] <geirha> Kartagis: Hm. Then maybe the filesystem is the weird one out
[08:05] <OpenSorce> VenomByte, the editing comment was refering to using ALSA
[08:06] <imran_> has any one over here replaced pulse audio with Alsa ? in 15.10
[08:08] <VenomByte> futurama140: after you did extract the files can u see something like a install.sh or make file?
[08:09] <VenomByte> OpenSorce: I don't really get what you are trying, is it changing your output device or making edits to unity??
[08:09] <futurama140> venombyte: makefile
[08:09] <junhui> have a nice day guys!
[08:10] <OpenSorce> VenomByte, I want to be able to use my speakers when everyone is awake and switch to my USB headset when they go to sleep :-)
[08:10] <OpenSorce> VenomByte, forget the editing.
[08:11] <khildin> OpenSorce, I thought that is default behaviour?
[08:12] <Kartagis> geirha: it was probably because I accidentally overwrote on the partition using dd
[08:13] <OpenSorce> khildin, I want to manually change the default sound device. I keep the USB device plugged in because my default mic is going through it.
[08:16] <Skrank> cant belive ubuntu made an 14 year old laptop come alive again
[08:18] <Skrank> any suggestions as to what programs and apps i should use? just got the VLC player and it just worked fine.. the dvd works reallyy great
[08:20] <futurama140> hey i have a game, kq1vga.exe installed through wine. the resolution is 320x200. i have found no way of increasing t. is there some way to do that?
[08:21] <VenomByte> futurama140: makefiles can be installed with something like make, make install
[08:21] <VenomByte> futurama140: sorry for slow response
[08:23] <Maric> hello there, i have a problem with my wifi (it says unavailable in the network manager applet (in cinnamon)) dmsg log i think are relevant are at http://pastebin.com/pYJZgny9 (after that log the last few lines just repeat every few seconds)
[08:23] <geirha> Kartagis: ah, that sounds quite plausible
[08:23] <ha1dfo> I have a fresh ubuntu 15.10 install, installed google-chrome from deb, but it wouldn't show up in the "ubuntu-contorl-center info" browsers section. Any ides where that one picks the choices from?
[08:25] <cfhowlett> ha1dfo, from .deb? better to do that from the ppa
[08:25] <ha1dfo> google-chrome? Please advise which one to use
[08:25] <cfhowlett> ha1dfo, oh wait, chrome, not chromium
[08:26] <ha1dfo> cfhowlett, I can select chromium, firefox and sometihng that looks like safari from the default browser list; but not the google-chrome-stable nor google-chrome-beta
[08:27] <cfhowlett> ha1dfo, I'm on xubuntu, so my environment is quite different from yours. ask again in channel, someone will know.
[08:27] <ha1dfo> OK
[08:27] <Skrank> why not just use firefox that comes with ubuntu?
[08:28] <ha1dfo> Skrank, this is a corporate laptop, plenty of internal sites that work best with chrome.
[08:28] <Skrank> oh, ok
[08:29] <Skrank> just figured since the firefox accually works really well]
[08:29] <ha1dfo> Skrank, was using an install from like 2 years ago and kept updating it; it worked well, but thought i'll give a chance for a fresh install
[08:29] <EriC^^> ha1dfo: try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[08:29] <cfhowlett> ha1dfo, "infernal sites". ftfy :)
[08:29] <Skrank> i hear you ..
[08:30] <ha1dfo> EriC^^, x-www-browser, gnome-www-broswer both set to google-chrome-beta
[08:31] <Maric> hello there, i have a problem with my wifi (it says unavailable in the network manager applet (in cinnamon)) dmsg log i think are relevant are at http://pastebin.com/pYJZgny9 (after that log the last few lines just repeat every few seconds)
[08:31] <sherwinowen_> #logstash
[08:31] <ha1dfo> just removed google-chrome installations; reinstalled them from ppa, still wouldn't show up
[08:33] <edoderoo> when I create a symbolic link to a directory, it keeps linking to a folder one level higher ... what did I do wrong?
[08:33] <EriC^^> use absolute paths
[08:35] <imran_> hi
[08:37] <edoderoo> now I use: ln -s /hidrive/users/myusername/sourcecode/python/pywikibot /pwb
[08:38] <edoderoo> ls /pwb will now show: /pwb/pywikibot
[08:38] <edoderoo> I did this before, and it would show the contents of that pywikibot-folder
[08:39] <futurama140> viperbyte: make: *** No rule to make target `/desktop/crda-3.18/makefile'. Stop.
[08:40] <futurama140> venombyte: make: *** No rule to make target `/desktop/crda-3.18/makefile'. Stop.
[08:42] <Ignaz> Is a LVM with two partions (one for / ; other for /data) on Hardware RAID10 usefull?
[08:43] <Ignaz> i think for example if the /data is to small to increase them
[08:43] <Ignaz> or to add a other hdd to /data
[08:45] <Ignaz> nobody use lvm?
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ignaz,
[08:47] <rardo> hey guys, is there a way i can get "gedit filename.txt" to act as "subl filename.txt" while still typing gedit.?
[08:47] <VenomByte> rardo: edit your .bashrc
[08:47] <VenomByte> rardo: add an alias to make 'gedit' link to 'subl
[08:48] <rardo> and that would be located where?
[08:48] <futurama140> how do i install a makefile?
[08:50] <ngaio_> rardo, the command locate is your friend, i.e. locate .bashrc You should be editing the version in your home directory
[08:51] <jedininjarob> i am looking for sources for the voice to txt software on Ubuntu, i cant find them specifically just the voice capture, and word recognition/return
[08:52] <VenomByte> rardo: its in ~/.bashrc
[08:52] <cfhowlett> jedininjarob, accessibility options
[08:52] <futurama140> how do i install a makefile?
[08:52] <VenomByte> futurama140: first write ./configure
[08:52] <VenomByte> futurama140: then make
[08:53] <VenomByte> futurama140: followed by sudo make install
[08:53] <VenomByte> futurama140: sorry busy with work
[08:53] <OerHeks> !build
any specific folders or just under options?
[08:53] <futurama140> venombyte: its all good
[08:53] <futurama140> venombyte: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[08:54] <cfhowlett> jedininjarob, assistive technologies would be the app locations. data files? I would think in your /home directory but I don't know for certain.
[08:54] <rardo> i sed the gui base search and gor several bash.bashrc and dot.bashrc files. there are only copyies of them in the usr/share folders. :/
[08:54] <VenomByte> futurama140: ok then there is no configure file, but do u get any errors from make?
[08:54] <jedininjarob> ok ill take a look
[08:55] <futurama140> venombyte: luke@luke-Lenovo-G50-45:~$ make /home/desktop/crda-3.18/makefile
[08:55] <futurama140> make: *** No rule to make target `/home/desktop/crda-3.18/makefile'. Stop.
[08:55] <VenomByte> futurama140: no other output before that line?
[08:55] <futurama140> nope
[08:55] <geirha> rardo: why do you write gedit when you really want subl?
[08:56] <VenomByte> futurama140: can u run: sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[08:56] <VenomByte> ~ brb
[08:57] <futurama140> venombyte: it's downloading
[08:57] <geirha> rardo: If you just want to change the default editor from gedit to subl, then overriding gedit with a function or alias won't help you.
[08:57] <rardo> geirha: i copy paste a lot of stuff, it just seems easier to change what gedit and vim do rather than changing them indivdualy in each line i paste. XD
[08:57] <jedininjarob> do you know of any sorces for ubuntu voice to txt apps?/code
[08:58] <TJ-> futurama140: first of all start from the directory where the project is, secondly, the file is likely called "Makefile" not "makefile", 3rdly you may need to run 'automake' to create the Makefile from a 'Makefile.am', or if there's a 'Makefile.in' you'll need to use "./configure" ... if that doesn't exist you'll need to generate it with "autoconf" ... etc. etc.
[08:58] <geirha> rardo: Oh, odd. Ok then.
[08:58] <OerHeks> jedininjarob, such speech2text software is high on the wanted list. if you find something workable, let us know.
[08:58] <jedininjarob> ahhh i see..
[08:58] <geirha> rardo: subl ~/.bashrc and add gedit() { subl "$@"; }
[08:59] <jedininjarob> i dont want a whole wraped program just the recognistion part
[08:59] <jedininjarob> ill keep searcchinmg
[08:59] <jedininjarob> thanks
[08:59] <futurama140> TJ: when i type ./config i get errors
[09:00] <embedded> Hi! I installed nvidia cuda and i trashed my ubuntu machine... I'd like to reinstall. However, my homme dir is encrypted. Do I have to do anything special to preserve it when I reinstall???
[09:01] <futurama140> TJ-: luke@luke-Lenovo-G50-45:~$ ./config /home/desktop/CRDA-3.18/Makefile
[09:01] <futurama140> bash: ./config: No such file or directory
[09:01] <futurama140> luke@luke-Lenovo-G50-45:~$ ./configure /home/desktop/CRDA-3.18/Makefile
[09:01] <futurama140> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[09:03] <geirha> futurama140: just install it from the repositories
[09:03] <geirha> !info crda
[09:03] <futurama140> says it's installed already
[09:06] <geirha> problem solved
[09:09] <embedded> Hi! trying to reinstall ubuntu, I have an encrypted home drive, how do I preserve this dir when reinstalling? (14.04)
[09:09] <ashleyhindle> Hi - how can I find out how libapache2-mod-php5 is installed, and where it gets its php.ini from?
[09:09] <klejp> hi guys. I just plugged in a mouse but it will not fire up. No red light at the bottom. Is there a driver for a plexgear mouse in the ubuntuverse?
[09:09] <embedded> the /home is in a different partition
[09:10] <ashleyhindle> As far as I can tell there isn't a php.ini in that .deb, or php5 or php5-common, though php5-common has default php.ini files (like -development), so I just wanted to see if it gets it from there
[09:10] <TJ-> futurama140: what was the point if wanting to build CRDA?
[09:11] <futurama140> TJ-: my wifi is rancid and i'm swiftly runing out of options. so: http://askubuntu.com/questions/597546/iwconfig-wlan0-txpower-30mw-not-working
[09:15] <TJ-> futurama140: are you trying to overcome a crowded frequency band, or some interference you've identified?
[09:16] <TJ-> ashleyhindle: it may generate/install the php.ini it used in the package .postinst script
[09:16] <ashleyhindle> Thanks TJ- I'll gander
[09:17] <TJ-> ashleyhindle: you'll find that (and other packages conf files) with "ll /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-php5.*"
[09:17] <futurama140> TJ-: not that i'm aware of. i figured if i can increase power to my wifi dongle i'll pick up signal better. as it is, my signal drops off intermitently and when i do have signal its super slow
[09:18] <futurama140> http://pastebin.com/YCtThwgj
[09:18] <TJ-> futurama140: increasing Tx power isn't going to help if the problem is received signal strength
[09:19] <futurama140> TJ-: look, obviously i have no clue what i'm doing and i'm grasping at straws. someone suggested this method so thats what ive been trying. please, do you have a better idea that doesnt involve money?
[09:19] <OerHeks> futurama140, told you before: messing with txpower does not work that way.
[09:19] <TJ-> futurama140: USB devices typically don't have very effecient antennas
[09:20] <TJ-> futurama140: Yes. Read the logs, gather *evidence* as to what is going on first, then act on that evidence. Don't try random things, you'll just get confused, frustrated, and possibly break the system especially building code locally
[09:20] <futurama140> TJ-: i have a pringles cantenna and a pie-tin parabolic antenna but when i plug the wifi dongle into a usb extension cord i cant even get any signal ever
[09:20] <futurama140> TJ-: i've tried two seperATE USB EXTENSIONS
[09:21] <futurama140> TJ-: what logs?
[09:21] <TJ-> futurama140: start with /var/log/syslog. Network Manager, which maages wpa_supplicant (which is responsible for maintaining a Wifi connection) are quite verbose in reporting what's going on
[09:21] <TJ-> s/maages/manages/
[09:21] <serveur_> hello
[09:21] <Swashbuckler> hi
[09:21] <VenomByte> hello
[09:21] <VenomByte> lol
[09:22] <futurama140> TJ-: ok, i have no idea what anything means. pastebin here?
[09:22] <nitish> VenomByte: ask your question.
[09:22] <nitish> Swashbucler: ask your question.
[09:23] <VenomByte> nitish: i don't have a question, sorry
[09:23] <Swashbuckler> how can i install wine in ubuntu
[09:23] <VenomByte> Swashbuckler: sudo apt-get install wine?
[09:23] <nitish> VenomByte: this is support channel.
[09:23] <cfhowlett> sudo apt install wine Swashbuckler
[09:23] <TJ-> futurama140: if the PC has intermittent reception problems, the root cause is likely either the location of the AP it is connecting to, or other APs/devices in the unlicensed frequency band causing interference - things like Wireless CCTV, Baby monitors, burglar alarms, microwave ovens, all use the same frequency band and don't have to cooperate
[09:23] <VenomByte> nitish: I am helping people too if I can ;)
[09:23] <TJ-> futurama140: "pastebinit <( tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog )"
[09:24] <Swashbuckler> thanks VenomByte
[09:24] <VenomByte> Swashbuckler: yw ;)
[09:24] <VenomByte> Swashbuckler: also lookup playonlinux and winetricks if u want :)
[09:24] <futurama140> TJ-: in terminal? all i get is: >
[09:25] <TJ-> futurama140: I think you typed a leading " ... type another " and press enter
[09:26] <TJ-> futurama140: as a rule I surround anything I want you to type literally with " ... " marks but you shouldn't type the "s themselves. It helps separate my commentary from the commands
[09:26] <futurama140> TJ-: there is no prompt. enter only starts a new line with >
[09:26] <futurama140> TJ-: i understand, i didnt use quotations
[09:26] <pandoxer> is ubuntu equally supported and efficient on vmware and virtualbox or should I favor one over the other?
[09:28] <futurama140> luke@luke-Lenovo-G50-45:~$ pastebinit <( tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog
[09:28] <futurama140> >
[09:28] <futurama140> >
[09:34] <TJ-> futurama140: you missed the closing )
[09:57] <futurama140> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/x59ydYkH when i install pastebinit
[10:03] <Skrank> anyone knows a good ftp server for movies?
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !warez | Skrank
[10:05] <Skrank> ok, sry bout that.. new to this thing
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> Skrank: you joined an ubuntu support channel
[10:06] <Skrank> like i just said.. im totaly new to this and agian. sorry
[10:06] <futurama140> TJ-: what do those errors mean?
[10:08] <futurama140> http://pastebin.com/x59ydYkH can anyone tell me whatthese errors mean?
[10:14] <futurama140> anyone?
[10:26] <momomo> is there a way to hide minimized windows from appliation switcher ?
[10:26] <momomo> in gnome 3
[10:26] <momomo> if you are running twenty applications and what to focus on three .. why would you be interested in even seeing the rest ?
[10:26] <momomo> i tried to create a separate workspace, and even on the other workspace, the windows are there
[10:26] <obr7> hi
[10:30] <Jack__> Hello, how can I force my Ubuntu 14.04 lts get a new IPv6 address from DHCP server, instead apply for the old one. I have tried to use dhclient -r, but it doesn't work. PS: I am using Network Manager
[10:32] <futurama140> can anyone help me decipher these errors? http://pastebin.com/x59ydYkH
[10:33] <Jack-zhang> Hello, how can I force my Ubuntu 14.04 lts get a new IPv6 address from DHCP server, instead apply for the old one. I have tried to use dhclient -r, but it doesn't work. PS: I am using Network Manager
[10:33] <TJ-> futurama140: you've installed some package called 'wibom' that fails to configure itself
[10:34] <futurama140> TJ-: is that going to affect the install?
[10:35] <TJ-> futurama140: it's broken the packaging system, nothing can be installed successfully until that's fixed
[10:36] <TJ-> !info wibom
[10:36] <futurama140> TJ-: how can I do that?
[10:36] <TJ-> futurama140: seems like that's not an Ubuntu package
[10:36] <pshr> Hi, I have installed gnome ubuntu on mac osx, recently I am getting a error while setting up grub-efi-amd64, this happens when I do any of apt-get install or autoremove : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501469/
[10:36] <futurama140> TJ-: its wine bottle manager
[10:38] <dionysus69> bash script file extension is .sh right?
[10:39] <hanfeng__> hello
[10:42] <futurama140> alo?
[10:43] <futurama140> TJ-: can i just go manually delete the wibom stuff?
[10:44] <ddr_> hello
[10:44] <ddr_> can smb help me with this problem:
[10:44] <ddr_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2304174&p=13396306#post13396306
[10:44] <ddr_> ?
[10:45] <TJ-> futurama140: you'd need to try "sudo apt-get purge wibom" and hope :)
[10:46] <futurama140> i just tried sudo apt-get remove wibom
[10:46] <futurama140> TJ-: it's working so far
[10:46] <TJ-> futurama140: that's good :)
[10:47] <futurama140> ok what was the command you wanted me to use to pastebin the wifi log?
[10:47] <futurama140> ive restarted twice since then cause of the wifi
[10:48] <futurama140> JT-: not sure which log file it was
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> ddr_: make your life easy and install ubuntu single + virtualbox + w8
[10:51] <futurama140> TJ-: not sure which log file it was
[10:51] <ddr_> lotuspsychje, ko, but for now i have to solve my actual problem
[10:51] <bumbar_> if i build some lib manually, how do i tell package manager i have it? so it won't implicitly overwrite
[10:51] <mcphail> bumbar_: the package manager will not touch anything under the /usr/local tree, so install it there
[10:54] <TJ-> futurama140: " pastebinit <( tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog ) "
[10:55] <futurama140> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501544/
[10:55] <bumbar_> mcphail, thanks
[10:56] <vooze> Hi, i'm trying to compile my "own" kernel, in order to apply this patch: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/423494/ - Following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - I have done all the steps until it says "patch kernel" but It only says: "read the instructions from the patch provider to learn how to apply it." but the patch does not say. Any ideas? :)
[10:57] <TJ-> futurama140: that's helpful. line 818 is an example of why its disassociating
[10:59] <futurama140> TJ-: so is it something fixable?
[10:59] <TJ-> futurama140: now report this: "pastebinit <( iwconfig wlan0; sudo iwlist wlan0 scan )"
[11:00] <Pricey> vooze: `patch < the.patch` is usually a good start.
[11:01] <futurama140> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501573/
[11:01] <vooze> Pricey, should I place the patch a specific place? like ~/kernel/linux-lts-wily-4.2.0/debian.master or something? or does that not matter?
[11:02] <Pricey> vooze: more important is that you run the command in the right directory. you can do `patch < /path/to/the.patch`
[11:02] <Danco> Hello, would anyone be able to inform me whether it is legally allowed to ship computers I sell with an OEM version of Ubuntu?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> Danco: you will have to contact canonical
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> Danco: and have some legal disclaimer
[11:04] <Danco> Alright thank you, I already contacted them, but I got a batch of 800 computers that are taking up space... Just wanted a quick answer is all. But thank you!
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> Danco: can you join #ubuntu-discuss ?
[11:05] <vooze> Pricey, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501597/
[11:06] <dionysus69> I have a script that I want to be able to run from terminal, do I add it to /usr/local/bin Or to /usr/sbin? and whats the difference between those dirs because both seem to include executables
[11:07] <Pricey> vooze: "more important is that you run the command in the right directory" :) cd to your kernel tree
[11:07] <vooze> Pricey, oh :D
[11:08] <vooze> Pricey, should I be in ~/kernel/linux-lts-wily-4.2.0 or ~/kernel/linux-lts-wily-4.2.0/debian.master or maybe ~/kernel/linux-lts-wily-4.2.0/debian.wily?
[11:08] <EriC^^> dionysus69: /usr/local/bin is for locally compiled packages ( not from the repos )
[11:08] <Pricey> vooze: I haven't a clue, wherever the source is that you're trying to patch.
[11:09] <EriC^^> dionysus69: /usr/sbin is for packages downloaded from the repos
[11:09] <dionysus69> EriC^^: thanks ! where do I learn those stuff ? I mean how linux system functions etc. where did you learn that for instance? haha
[11:09] <ddr_> lotuspsychje, do u know the solution to my problem?
[11:09] <EriC^^> !hier | dionysus69
[11:10] <dionysus69> EriC^^: thanks again, diving
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> ddr_: paste that issue to EriC^^ he might take a look at it
[11:11] <EriC^^> dionysus69: np
[11:11] <EriC^^> ddr_: what's up?
[11:12] <ddr_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2304174&p=13396306#post13396306
[11:12] <TJ-> futurama140: The good news is you don't appear to have other APs locally causing interference (although non-Wifi devices could be - microwaves, etc.). From lines 617/619 of the syslog pastebin I'd suspect the r8188eu dirver for the device is the cause. e.g. "r8188eu: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned."
[11:13] <futurama140> TJ-: so what are my options for fixing it?
[11:14] <TJ-> futurama140: is the PC using 15.04 Vivid?
[11:14] <futurama140> TJ-: 14.04 LTS
[11:15] <TJ-> futurama140: ahhh, with the LTS Enablement pack
[11:16] <futurama140> TJ-: in the software center?
[11:17] <EriC^^> ddr_: can you boot a live usb?
[11:17] <TJ-> futurama140: I just checked the kernel source; there have been 196 patches to the rtl8188eu code since v3.19 which is the kernel version currently installed. I'd suggest testing the system with either the 15.10 Wily v4.2 kernel, or a recent mainline kernel build
[11:17] <futurama140> TJ-: how d i go about doing that?
[11:17] <vooze> Pricey, I can see /kernel/linux-lts-wily-4.2.0/drivers/rtc/class.c and /kernel/linux-lts-wily-4.2.0/include/linux/rtc.h like the patch says, but the patch is saying like a/ and b/ but I cant find those. You have an idea?
[11:18] <vooze> Pricey, like it says: diff --git a/drivers/rtc/class.c b/drivers/rtc/class.c
[11:18] <TJ-> vooze: from the base of the kernel source-code tree: "patch -p1 < path/to/patc/file.diff"
[11:19] <Pricey> vooze: ignore a & b, those are the before and after versions. As long as you're in the bit with the next part of the path it should work.
[11:19] <TJ-> vooze: "man patch" you'll see '-pX' strips off X path directory components
[11:20] <EriC^^> ddr_: boot a live usb
[11:20] <k_sze> wtf, I booted Ubuntu Desktop 15.10 as live CD and I can't install gddrescue. The package is not found even after apt-get update.
[11:20] <EriC^^> !info gddrescue
[11:20] <EriC^^> k_sze: sudo add-apt-repository universe
[11:22] <vooze> TJ-, cool, it seems to "work" now, but I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501668/ is this normal?
[11:23] <eahmedshendy> When I tried to 'apt-get upgrade -y' I got this error on Ubuntu 14.04, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501665/
[11:23] <eahmedshendy> I tried many solutions but no one solved the problem, and for mention this is a production server
[11:23] <eahmedshendy> may be I am missing something
[11:23] <Pricey> vooze: That likely means your tree has been modified since the patch was authored. So what the patch suggests changing doesn't match up with what's already there. Resolution will likely require looking at the source and patch and applying manually.
[11:23] <curses> is the wheel group used at all on modern Ubuntu?
[11:24] <vooze> Pricey, ah okay, I'll give it a try :) thanks for your help so far.
[11:25] <vooze> Pricey, could it be that the ubuntu kernel is a bit modified and I should try a "clean" kernel?
[11:26] <ddr_> eric, already bootesd
[11:26] <Pricey> vooze: It will be the case, it may even be that that patch has already been applied and you're trying it a second time. If you use a vanilla kernel you will likely break features ubuntu relies upon.
[11:27] <vooze> Pricey, ah okay :) i'll look into what the ubuntu kernel have different is that file :)
[11:27] <ddr_> EriC^^, already booted
[11:28] <k_sze> If I get ata1: comreset failed (errno=-16) while booting up (and then it gives up), is there a way I can ask Ubuntu to retry once it's fully booted up?
[11:28] <Pricey> vooze: I find 'meld' an awesome tool for that kind of thing.
[11:28] <kayroone> Hey there, I want to add a ';' on position 7, 9, 11, 13 in every line in vim. how do I solve this issue? :)
[11:28] <EriC^^> ddr_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:28] <k_sze> because I have this HDD that's failing and it usually would timeout right after power on.
[11:28] <vooze> Pricey, ah really cool, will look into that.
[11:29] <futurama140> TJ-: can i go to 15.04 through the software center?
[11:32] <ddr_> EriC^^, done
[11:33] <EriC^^> ddr_: link?
[11:33] <ddr_> EriC^^, termbin.com/d9kf
[11:34] <EriC^^> ddr_: sudo mount /dev/sdc5 /mnt
[11:34] <futurama140> how do i upgrade to 15.04?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> futurama140, what is your current version???
[11:36] <futurama140> 14.04 LTS
[11:36] <m1dnight_> When I logged in via ssh the system said I had mail. But executing `mail` just returns `~mail`
[11:36] <cfhowlett> futurama140, long term support = 5 years. 150.4 support = 9 MONTHS and ends in January. are you sure this is the right move??
[11:36] <m1dnight_> Hwo can I read my mails?
[11:37] <ddr_> EriC^^, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdc5 /mnt
[11:37] <ddr_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc5,
[11:37] <ddr_> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[11:37] <ddr_> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:37] <ddr_> dmesg | tail or so
[11:37] <EriC^^> ddr_: type dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:37] <futurama140> cfhowlett: TJ- said that it has the updates for my wireless driver i need
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | futurama140,
[11:38] <futurama140> cfhowlett: dissasociation or something
[11:38] <cfhowlett> futurama140, eolupgrade 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 OR download 15.04 and clean install.
[11:38] <futurama140> how do i do the first method?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> read the link
[11:39] <futurama140> right
[11:39] <ddr_> EriC^^, termbin.com/fjfs
[11:40] <EriC^^> ddr_: try sudo fsck -f /dev/sdc5
[11:42] <vooze> Pricey, I see a lot have changed in that file, since the patch was written, but I guess i'm Gonna try ;) worst that can happen is it fails I guess.
[11:43] <ddr_> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501749/
[11:43] <ddr_> i should say yes?
[11:43] <EriC^^> yes
[11:45] <ddr_> EriC^^, now i should restart the pc?
[11:45] <EriC^^> no, hold on
[11:45] <EriC^^> try sudo mount /dev/sdc5 /mnt
[11:45] <PudgePacket> I have a program that comes up in ubuntu search but I can't find it to uninstall it
[11:46] <EriC^^> PudgePacket: which program?
[11:46] <PudgePacket> Unity
[11:46] <PudgePacket> the problem is it shares a name with the unity window manager
[11:46] <ddr_> EriC^^, what is next?
[11:46] <EriC^^> ddr_: did it mount?
[11:47] <ddr_> i think that yes
[11:47] <ddr_> EriC^^,
[11:48] <EriC^^> PudgePacket: type grep -iR "Name=Unity" /usr/share/applications
[11:48] <EriC^^> ddr_: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[11:57] <PudgePacket> EriC^^: Found the .desktop file of the program
[11:58] <ddr_> EriC^^, imgur.com/W8QG5e9
[11:59] <EriC^^> PudgePacket: ok, type dpkg -S /usr/share/applications/<desktopfile>
[12:00] <PudgePacket> $ dpkg -S /usr/share/applications/unity-editor.desktop unity-editor: /usr/share/applications/unity-editor.desktop
[12:01] <EriC^^> PudgePacket: ok, unity-editor is the package
[12:01] <EriC^^> ddr_: type sudo chroot /mnt
[12:02] <PudgePacket> EriC^^ Awesome, thanks for your help!
[12:02] <EriC^^> PudgePacket: no problem!
[12:03] <Aloizio> bom dia
[12:03] <ddr_> EriC^^, i got into: root@ubuntu:/#
[12:03] <ubuntu-studio> hi everybody
[12:04] <EriC^^> ddr_: ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sdc
[12:04] <ddr_> aloizo, ola
[12:04] <ddr_> Aloizio, Ola
[12:04] <ubuntu-studio> i need help can help ?
[12:04] <EriC^^> ubuntu-studio: what's up?
[12:05] <ubuntu-studio> im first timy on ubuntu. how to install apps ?
[12:05] <ubuntu-studio> time*
[12:07] <ubuntu-studio> &
[12:07] <ubuntu-studio> ?
[12:08] <ddr_> EriC^^, installing for i-386 pc platform. instalation finished. No error reported.
[12:10] <Xaverius> Could anyone recommend a decent vpn client for 14.04, cheers guys
[12:10] <EriC^^> ddr_: type update-grub
[12:12] <ddr_> EriC^^, imgur.com/s9iT2xh
[12:12] <Xaverius> Anyone?
[12:13] <ddr_> xaverius, filezilla
[12:14] <EriC^^> ddr_: looks good, you have a ton of old kernels though you could remove
[12:14] <EriC^^> ddr_: type apt-get autoremove
[12:15] <Xaverius> drr_: Thankyou
[12:15] <ddr_> EriC^^, now i should restart the pc?
[12:16] <lignux> hey guys i cant seem to install steam. I need the libgl1 mesa glx but i cant install it. I tried all the workarounds i found from google and none worked. Im using ubuntu14.04 64bit
[12:16] <EriC^^> ddr_: type exit, then restart
[12:18] <lignux> no one?
[12:23] <ddr_> EriC^^, i love u
[12:23] <EriC^^> ddr_: :)
[12:25] <vooze> Have anyone tried to compile the ubuntu linux kernel with something like a i7 quadcore desktop (skylake in this case) - just wondering how long time it will take :)
[12:27] <heinzelm> /script install buffers.pl buffer_autoclose.py iset.pl go.py colorize_nicks.py
[12:27] <sruli> might be the wrong place to ask, but i searched the net and cannot find an answer, is there a veracrypt expander for linux? i can only find one for windows, how do i expand my veracrypt volume in linux?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:35] <lignux> can anyone help me install steam here?
[12:39] <administrateur> turbo
[12:40] <administrateur> drone
[12:44] <Nerdsinc> Hey guys, I just finished installing Ubuntu Gnome. Is there any software or resources i should be installing rn?
[12:45] <Guest63077> Hi does anyone know how to use inotifywatch to get filenames? It only gives me directories
[12:45] <jpds> Nerdsinc: That does depend entirely on what you want or need
[12:45] <DrSlony> Hi, what is the git package name in ubuntu?
[12:45] <jpds> DrSlony: 'git'
[12:50] <DrSlony> jpds thank you
[12:59] <wootehfoot> Hello! Apport wanted to report a xorg bug. Where is that bug sent, and where can I find it? Is there a bug entry for it?
[13:00] <wootehfoot> I can't find any information regarding this. The reason I want to do this is because I want to add anformation to the report.
[13:00] <wootehfoot> information*
[13:02] <wmorri> !bugtracker | wootehfoot
[13:03] <TJ-> wootehfoot: if it does send a bug report it should open a web-browser window for you to add to it; it's likely there was already a bug report matching it, so it'd just me-too on that bug
[13:04] <wootehfoot> TJ-, thank you, this is the answer I was looking for.
[13:05] <wootehfoot> TJ-, the reason I wanted to add info on this bug is because this xorg crash triggers a relogin without the need for password.
[13:05] <wootehfoot> TJ-, that security concern can't be seen from the bug data alone
[13:06] <TJ-> wootehfoot: the system cannot login without a password. What can happen is the user session doesn't close and the X session greeter can hand over to the already-running user session
[13:07] <futurama140> anyone have experience with wine here?
[13:07] <wootehfoot> TJ-, you're telling me the xorg crashed, and triggered an immediate handover?
[13:07] <wootehfoot> (without the need to fully logout?)
[13:11] <TJ-> wootehfoot: the greeter runs as the root user, but a login session starts once the password is authenticated. It is possible for the X server user session to crash but the login session to remain, so rather like when you repeatedly 'sudo ...' the password is only needed the first time
[13:11] <AtuM> is there some sort of wizzard to integrate ubuntu to windows AD available?
[13:11] <futurama140> i'm trying to run a game called king's quest 1 remake through wine, and the game i set to run on the virtual desktop, and either way I run the game, it's set to a resolution of 320x200, and there is no option to change the resolution in the settings. is there some way to scale up the resolution
[13:12] <AtuM> from the official repositories
[13:12] <ikonia> AtuM: you really don't want to do that with a wizard
[13:12] <AtuM> ikonia, I really do
[13:12] <ikonia> you don't as it will break
[13:12] <ikonia> it really is a per use basis
[13:12] <n1n0> hi, why are some games from 2 years ago are missing from the software centre?
[13:13] <wootehfoot> TJ-, I see
[13:13] <n1n0> ...-are
[13:14] <AtuM> ikonia, some "official" aka "supported" way to integrate should be possible with a wizzard.. things can be built on top of that later
[13:15] <AtuM> integration like this https://dubious.cse.unsw.edu.au/drupal/cifs-kerberos should come out-of-the-box by now
[13:17] <hateball> n1n0: what games? It is possible they are no longermaintained
[13:17] <hateball> n1n0: or if you do not have universe/multiverse enabled and they have been moved into there
[13:22] <s4in7> hi^
[13:22] <n1n0> hateball how to enable it?
[13:22] <hateball> !multiverse
[13:22] <hateball> n1n0: ^
[13:23] <Promille> you could use !multiverse | n1n0
[13:24] <Sonderblade> any way to "reset" an ubuntu installation to a known good state?
[13:24] <Sonderblade> i have a weird driver issue which causes gnome-shell to hang
[13:24] <ikonia> AtuM: not really as people run differnt extensions in their AD
[13:24] <futurama140> i'm trying to run a game called king's quest 1 remake through wine, and the game i set to run on the virtual desktop, and either way I run the game, it's set to a resolution of 320x200, and there is no option to change the resolution in the settings. is there some way to scale up the resolution?
[13:25] <Promille> futurama140 - you could also try #winehq . more chance of getting an answer
[13:25] <futurama140> promille: ok thanks
[13:26] <frostschutz> futurama140, there is a remake? for the original you should probably use scummvm http://www.scummvm.org/screenshots/agi/kq/
[13:27] <AtuM> ikonia, true.. but some sort of basic integration would be nice. I'm doing a class on how to do this, so I will explain the basics on how things work.. I will then have to say that integration is a project, not a procedure.
[13:28] <AtuM> ikonia, as you know, windows ppl expect it to be "a procedure" :)
[13:28] <futurama140> frostschutz: yea its a third-party remake with the engine and raphics of later titles in the series
[13:35] <bithorizon> Hello
[13:35] <bithorizon> I'm trying to daemonize a script through start-stop-daemon
[13:35] <bithorizon> But I can't figure out it's usage
[13:35] <bithorizon> Can anyone help?
[13:37] <styler2go> Is there something like jDownloader but without java? For linux?
[13:39] <vooze> Pricey: I got the kernel working with the patch :D
[13:39] <vooze> Pricey: Just wanted to say thanks again.
[13:40] <hateball> styler2go: maybe if you explain what it is
[13:41] <hateball> !systemd
[13:41] <hateball> oh they left...
[13:42] <styler2go> hateball: A download manager with web interface
[13:43] <hateball> styler2go: appears to be something called uget in the repos
[13:43] <Pricey> vooze: woop woop!
[13:44] <Paul-Z> Hey, guys! I got a problem again....
[13:45] <Paul-Z> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, how can i install the python 3.5?
[13:47] <Pici> Paul-Z: its not available in the official repositories, the deadsnakes ppa has a copy though: https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/ubuntu/deadsnakes?field.series_filter=precise
[13:48] <Paul-Z> Pici, Oh, thank you, so, I need add this ppa first...
[13:48] <Pici> Paul-Z: yep
[13:50] <Paul-Z> Pici, Mmm... I just want to use it on python virtualenv, so are there some other way to solve it?
[13:50] <eahmedshendy> What is the problem with this guys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502312/
[13:51] <eahmedshendy> The previous version was 5.5, and this is my 4th time to remove it
[13:51] <eahmedshendy> and install it again
[13:52] <futurama140> im trying to increase the size of a game window in wine and this http://askubuntu.com/questions/16733/adjusting-resolution-for-individual-wine-programs didnt work. can someone help me?
[13:55] <zetheroo1> has anyone had any luck getting Nautilus to browse a domain workgroup?
[13:58] * bittin_ at work atm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg
[14:02] <ArchNoob> Hello, I'm trying to update my fstab file and place a new drive to always automount. Where can i see the mount options provided there? Like explanationis of the mount options which are in the fstab file!?
[14:04] <mcphail> ArchNoob: "man 5 fstab" for the file format and "man mount" for the mount options
[14:06] <ArchNoob> mcphail: I tried man mount and started searching for "nousid" (one of the options i know and a prove if they are there) but i didn't find it.
[14:08] <ArchNoob> mcphail: Aww.. Thank You I had a typo.. ^_^
[14:09] <mcphail> ArchNoob: ha!
[14:10] <mcphail> ArchNoob: the "man mount" page is veeeeeery long, but has all the info you need :)
[14:10] <deathonfriday> how to tail?
[14:15] <reactormonk> how can I set ulimit -c unlimited globally?
[14:16] <hrobi123> hi
[14:16] <hrobi123> I'm using the graphics driver ppa to support my GTX 970
[14:17] <hrobi123> I noticed they now have newer drivers, nvidia-358 vs my current nvidia-352
[14:17] <hrobi123> I wanted to give it a try... do I first have to purge my current nvidia install?
[14:17] <hrobi123> or is it ok simply to install the never driver?
[14:18] <mcphail> hrobi123: usually the old driver will be removed automatically. I assume the ppa will have the dependencies set up to do that, but you never really know with PPAs
[14:19] <ikonia> hrobi123: is there an ubuntu package for the newer drivers ?
[14:19] <hrobi123> ikonia: ehm this is not canonical drivers, no.
[14:19] <hrobi123> ikonia: you need to use PPA , user supported repos "untrusted" repos to get this
[14:20] <hrobi123> ikonia: or compile it yourself.
[14:21] <Inopia> ikonia: if you're interested in graphics drivers you should check out https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:21] <hrobi123> mcphail: ok I best just try it then. I guess this PPA should be correctly set up with dependencies
[14:21] <hrobi123> Inopia: I tried x-org edgers first... but someone told me its being phased out in favour of the "graphics driver" ppa
[14:22] <Inopia> oh that seems right
[14:22] <mcphail> hrobi123: wosrt comes to the worst, you can unpick it all from the command line ;)
[14:22] <ikonia> I'd keep away from non-official nvidia PPA's
[14:22] <Inopia> x-org edgers even has a link in the description
[14:22] <ikonia> you're just going to hit problems and pain,
[14:22] <ikonia> the ubuntu ones are normally not far behind and have been compatability tested properly
[14:23] <hrobi123> ikonia true... but there is always that special not so common user with special requirements... mine is doing 3D rendering on GPU using the latest GTX 970... pluging into a stereoscopic tv screen... tooo
[14:23] <hrobi123> ikonia: I'm way to "special" to be using the tried and tested drivers,
[14:24] <Inopia> is there an "official nvidia PPA" ?
[14:25] <hateball> Inopia: That's as close as it gets https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[14:25] <Inopia> yeah
[14:25] <reactormonk> I added * soft core unlimited to my limits.conf, but java still complains core dumps have been disabled
[14:36] <deskwizard> 'morning ! anyone else getting 'megasas' kernel panics on 15.10 ?
[14:37] <Summh> i think this excited...... GENITAL WARTS! maybe. it is sacd. i think this a game - NFL just this a joke
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[14:37] <Summh> gambler
[14:37] <Summh> I won't think and is over $380 miles from spot in human off a French of random rap on the for married
[14:37] <Summh> good girl. by the basektball album. its ok. 1187songs, 12hrs downloading them sucked to kickin my teeth. spit is been has born
[14:37] <mcphail> !ops
[14:37] <Summh> es those? heh. lol. ultimately, "speed" is clean. never inconvenience to see
[14:38] <Summh> _Forbin: the most and the patience to get used to leave asked her worlds. meh
[14:38] <mcphail> Ta
[14:42] <eahmedshendy> Can anyone help, 'What is the problem with this guys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502312/'
[14:43] <Jan\> how do I enable sudo for a new user I just made ?
[14:43] <k1l_> Jan\: put him into the sudo group
[14:43] <deskwizard> JanC, add to sudo group
[14:43] <EriC^^> Jan\: sudo usermod -aG sudo <newuser>
[14:43] <Jan\> ok ty
[14:44] <k1l_> or make him "admin" in the users and groups interface gui
[14:44] <paladin_> ping
[14:44] <ikonia> ?
[14:44] <paladin_> sorry
[14:44] <ikonia> no problem
[14:44] <paladin_> i just join
[14:45] <paladin_> i do not know anything
[14:46] <Dirkos> is there a place where i can find the compile options for the "nginx" package?
[14:46] <Dirkos> I need some extra modules where no package is available so i need to compile it by hand
[14:46] <ikonia> in the ubuntu package
[14:47] <Dirkos> yeah but how can i see that?
[14:48] <ikonia> download the source deb
[14:48] <ikonia> look at the manifest
[14:55] <ins3ct> .cmd help
[14:56] <ins3ct> .join netsplit
[14:57] <highdivr> :)
[15:03] <TJ-> Dirkos: the package configure options are generally set in the source's debian/rules makefile
[15:03] <sukee> how can i scan from a printer ? is there an application for that ? i am using ubuntu-mate
[15:03] <TJ-> sukee: impossible
[15:04] <sukee> and why is that ?
[15:04] <TJ-> sukee: printers print, they don't scan
[15:04] <highdivr> scan from a scanner
[15:04] <highdivr> lol
[15:04] <zetheroo1> has anyone had any luck getting Nautilus to browse a domain workgroup?
[15:04] <sukee> TJ-, yeah sorry about that i have an all in one printer
[15:05] <sukee> TJ-, its a scanner/printer/copying machine
[15:05] <TJ-> sukee: Ahhhhh! so a multi-function device (MFD) with a scanner... you'll need the SANE drivers for the device
[15:05] <TJ-> sukee: I have 2 here; HP and Samsung
[15:05] <sukee> TJ-, mine is Epson
[15:05] <TJ-> sukee: uhoh :)
[15:06] <HackerII> el oh el
[15:06] <dweidler> Hey, some of my icons and the menu bars on my two smaller screens (1920x1080) are out of the screen area. All works fine on the 2560x1440 screen. Any fix for that? :x
[15:07] <TJ-> sukee: I don't see any epson scanner drivers in the archives, maybe Epson publish their own
[15:07] <TJ-> dweidler: Unity?
[15:08] <dweidler> using MATE
[15:08] <TJ-> dweidler: hmmm, not used that. I don't have those issues with LXDE, XFCE or KDE on 6 a monitor system
[15:09] <deskwizard> dweidler, try in #ubuntu-mate
[15:09] <TJ-> dweidler: but all the montors are identical resolution. It sounds like a scaling/panning issue
[15:09] <deskwizard> dweidler, running mate here too, desktop icons are finnicky too
[15:09] <TJ-> dweidler: is the larger monitor set as the primary?
[15:09] <dweidler> Apparently yes
[15:10] <TJ-> dweidler: it might be worth experimenting with a smaller monitor set as primary
[15:10] <deskwizard> dweidler, what version are you running ?
[15:10] <dweidler> the latest one. How to set a screen to primary? Can't see any option in screen settings
[15:11] <deskwizard> dweidler, theres a command for that, 1 sec
[15:11] <TJ-> dweidler: "man xrandr"
[15:11] <deskwizard> or that yeah
[15:12] <deskwizard> dweidler, https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-control-center/issues/17 (jarrpa, 08-04-2013)
[15:12] <TJ-> dweidler: either "--noprimary" or "--primary" depending on what experiment you want to do, and which R&R version is supported
[15:16] <dweidler> Changing the primary didn't help. I guess the only solution is to move the smaller screen's top to the bigger screens top. But when having more icons that could fit vertically, the will still exceed the display size
[15:17] <apa> I have the latest mate installed on another PC, when I boot it does not load the usbwifi, but on lsusb it is there. It does connect if I reseat the wifi in the usb slot, any fix for this?
[15:23] <Msk> please tell me count a word from a text file
[15:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> Msk try the wc command
[15:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> type man wc for usage
[15:26] <geirha> If you want a GUI alternative, many editors will also give you a word count. E.g. in gedit: Tools -> Document Statistics
[15:30] <swashbuckler> I can't able to loggin in Ubuntu
[15:30] <nicomachus> swashbuckler: can you explain that issue a bit more?
[15:40] <ch_> hi there
[15:41] <hartgeld> hello
[15:43] <ch_> anyone know hows the privacy is on ubuntu? thinking about collecting data and such? thinking of running ubuntu gnome edit and this is my major issue :/
[15:44] <k1l> ch_: what are you concerned about?
[15:45] <ch_> if thay is collecting any data. like loggin ip and things on my computer. know the unity search bar is collecting but thats not my concern since i will run gnome
[15:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> ch_ here's a link to the privacy policy: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy
[15:46] <mcphail> ch_: firefox collects data for advertising purposes
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> i guess the ghostery plugin can prevent that
[15:47] <mcphail> I would guess it would
[15:47] <k1l> ch_: of course it logs who is logged in. or who is using ssh login etc. that is a standard procedure on all linux systems
[15:47] <k1l> ch_: you can turn it off on unity, that it generates online results, btw
[15:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> if you have genuine concerns about provacy to the extent that you're worried about your operating system, maybe invest in a VPN of some kind
[15:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> privacy*
[15:48] <k1l> ch_: but logging doesnt mean that this gets send to any 3rd parties outside.
[15:49] <ch_> ye have seen that. i have done that and using vpn daily. but having some small concerns about if ubuntu or canonical is having another finger around this?
[15:49] <ch_> :)
[15:49] <ikonia> then don't use it
[15:49] <ikonia> if you're in any doubt - don't use it
[15:50] <ikonia> you have no reason to think any of this that I can see,
[15:50] <k1l> ch_: they dont steal your data.
[15:50] <ikonia> so no logical discussion is going to put your mind at ease
[15:50] <ikonia> if in doubt - don't use it
[15:50] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah, you can't reasons someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into
[15:50] * nicomachus seriouslylaughs
[15:51] * mcphail thinks it is perfectly reasonable to check these things out before installing an OS
[15:51] <k1l> ch_: its labeled "online search" where you can search and get online results too. but you can set that off. but there is no hidden agenda to steal someones data. its open source, look into the code if you dont believe.
[15:51] <ch_> y i know. was thinking of ubuntu since its made for ubuntu or i will do it the hard way with arch...
[15:58] <nicomachus> mcphail: there's a difference between doing your research, and being stupid paranoid thinking that Canonical is going to log your IP (???) every time you log in to your OS.
[16:01] <finetundra> Hey folks, how would I go about transfering music to my Ipod on my ubuntu pc?
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> !ipod
[16:01] <ch_o> hi
[16:04] <kisb> hello
[16:04] <h4m> hello
[16:04] <hiwk> hi! ubuntu 14.04. I ran a command that started a butload of terminals, all of them ended up on top of each other. is there any automatic way to spread tem out/tile them?
[16:04] <hiwk> default window manager
[16:04] <freakyy> hi all. i have a problem with the ati graphics driver. it displays strange lines etc. and the screen starts in the middle, goes out to the right continuing at the left. now, when i plug in another monitor, the inbuilt monitor which showed the lines and was messed up, gets reset and everythign is ok. how can i have the screen get refeshed automatically or what can cause this?
[16:07] <h4m> I have a question. When I logout and change over from Metacity compiz to Metacity classic, I lose the wallpaper it just turns black? cant change it when I try in appearance.
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> hiwk is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/7798/how-do-i-arrange-my-windows-automatically
[16:09] <rettop> Hi.
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> hiwk also, 'xdotool' comes to mind
[16:10] <rettop> I'm running 12.04 LTS. I locked my screen, came back to my computer and found that everything was frozen. I tried to reboot, but the fan kept spooling up, slowing down and stopping....with nothing happening on the screen
[16:10] <rettop> If I shut it off and power on, I get the same thing. Fan spools up, then slows down, stops, then spools up again without anything appearing on the screen, not even bios
[16:13] <mcphail> rettop: sounds like hardware rather than software problem
[16:14] <rettop> yeah, for some reason #hardware won't let me in. it tells me I cannot send to channel
[16:14] <hiwk> MonkeyDust: will check em out! thanks
[16:14] <rettop> no idea why? Maybe I need to ask for permission? Who do I ask
[16:15] <Paul-Z> Mmm... I installed a app via pip, and How to run it using python3.5 (default is python2.7, I dont wnat to change it))
[16:17] <mcphail> rettop: I'd guess it would be a double-hash channel i.e. ##hardware
[16:17] <leSaucy> run /usr/bin/python3 ?
[16:17] <freakyy> hi all. i have a problem with the ati graphics driver. it displays strange lines etc. and the screen starts in the middle, goes out to the right continuing at the left. now, when i plug in another monitor, the inbuilt monitor which showed the lines and was messed up, gets reset and everythign is ok. how can i have the screen get refeshed automatically without me having to plugin another monitor - or what can
[16:17] <freakyy> cause this?
[16:17] <mcphail> retoaded: and make sure you are signed in with a registered nick
[16:18] <mcphail> retoaded: sorry - sent to wrong person
[16:18] <retoaded> :-)
[16:18] <Paul-Z> leSaucy, nope... I don't want to run python shell... just want to run a app which is installed via pip...
[16:19] <mcphail> freakyy: open source driver or prorietary?
[16:19] <Pici> Paul-Z: maybe #python would be a better place to ask...
[16:19] <Paul-Z> Pici, Oh, Sorry, I think yes...
[16:19] <freakyy> prorietary
[16:19] <nat0> Can anyone tell my why preseeding a fresh install of 14.04 fails after searching for dists/precise-updates/Release, which doesn't even exist on the 14.04 installer DVD?
[16:20] <freakyy> 14.04 is trusty not precise
[16:20] <nat0> Why would a fresh install need to reference updates/Release, especially after already having verified precise/Release?
[16:20] <mcphail> freakyy: ok, sorry - don't have much experience with the proprietary driver (beyond swearing at it) so won't be of any help to you :(
[16:20] <freakyy> mcphail: ok ;D
[16:20] <freakyy> thanks anyway :)
[16:21] <mcphail> freakyy: :)
[16:21] <nat0> freaky: sorry I confused the two
[16:21] <nat0> But that begs the question further.
[16:22] <nat0> Why does a fresh install of trusty fail upon not finding an upgrade path for precise machines?
[16:23] <nat0> Shouldn't the installer be able to recognize a fresh installation, and skip that part?
[16:23] <nat0> If not, then shouldn't the trusty image come with a dists/precise-update/Release path?
[16:23] <recon_lap> O roll on 16.04 and pray the installer is better
[16:25] <nat0> recon_lap: Unfortunately this is for a production deployment server. We need to roll out 14.04 in a production environment, and don't have the luxury of waiting until 16.04 comes out.
[16:25] <recon_lap> might be getting some loving with nomodeset
[16:27] <recon_lap> nat0: wonder why you are using xubuntu as a production server
[16:27] <nat0> I'm not
[16:27] <nat0> Where did you get xubuntu from?
[16:28] <nat0> It's a stock ubuntu-14.04.3-server-amd64.iso image
[16:28] <nat0> Being booted from a cobbler PXE deployment server.
[16:28] <recon_lap> sry, getting my channels mixed up, statment still stands, why ubuntu for a production server
[16:28] <nat0> With a preseed file.
[16:28] <nat0> Because some clients want to use ubuntu.
[16:28] <nat0> Believe me if I could not use it I wouldn't.
[16:29] <nat0> Ubuntu is a PITA compared to Debian or CentOS.
[16:29] <will_wielder> what is best for production server
[16:30] <nat0> will_wielder: Standards depend on where you are.
[16:30] <nat0> Most US MSPs use CentOS. In Europe the standard is SUSE.
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> nat0 you're free not to use ubuntu
[16:30] <nat0> I prefer Debian. It's very frustrating how Ubuntu devs arbitrarily rename packages, or interfaces in /dev, etc.
[16:31] <nat0> Omg
[16:31] <nat0> Thanks MonkeyDust.
[16:31] <nat0> I'll tell that to the client paying 5000/mo to provision their servers here.
[16:31] <somsip> nat0: for 5k a month, suck it up and stop whinging
[16:31] <nat0> Yeah cuz all that money goes into my pockets.
[16:31] <nat0> Are there adults here/
[16:32] <nat0> Perhaps with sysadmin experience?
[16:32] <nat0> Or is this a teenage alphanerd desktop support channel?
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> nat0 i havent followed... there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:32] <nicomachus> nat0: there are plenty of experienced adults here. Do you have a support question?
[16:32] <mcphail> nat0: #ubuntu-server for server and #ubuntu-offtopic for ranting
[16:32] <nat0> Thanks MonkeyDust, mcphail.
[16:33] <somsip> mcphail: offtopic isn't for ranting. !guidelines apply there too
[16:34] <recon_lap> nat0: I've a feeling you know more about ubuntu installs than me. I take it you got some VM setup going
[16:36] <ivan_on_trac> I can have only one public key (id_rsa.pub)? Where the same public key would be in all my servers (.ssh).
[16:37] <shreez> When trying to add a new large drive to a headless box with no GUI, what is the best tool to use to create the partitions and format the drive?
[16:37] <functionoverform> cfdisk
[16:37] <functionoverform> or fdisk if you like
[16:37] <numnum4me> Does someone knows nother GUI Conky manager then the usual "conky manager"
[16:37] <Skaag> last night I installed 14.04 on an Intel NUC system, install went fine, booted fine, etc. but then it offered a dist-upgrade via the desktop UI, I agreed, it upgraded itself, rebooted, and now the NUC doesn't boot ;-)
[16:38] <Skaag> it doesn't find an OS at all...
[16:38] <nicomachus> numnum4me: that's the only one I know of.
[16:38] <EriC^^> shreez: cgdisk / gdisk for gpt partition table
[16:38] <Skaag> I booted again from the USB Stick, and made sure /dev/sda1 has the 'boot' flag, it does, and now I don't know why else it doesn't even reach grub
[16:38] <Skaag> (or whatever boot manager is used in 14.04)
[16:39] <functionoverform> EriC^^: does ubuntu have cfdisk by default?
[16:39] <EriC^^> functionoverform: yeah
[16:39] <functionoverform> thanks
[16:39] <EriC^^> np
[16:46] <boxmein> ohai, my fn-left key is being used magically as a screen configuration swap thing
[16:46] <boxmein> (like win+P on a windows machine, it cycles between duplicating between two screens, having both separate screens, and having only one screen on)
[16:47] <boxmein> can I disable that because fn-left is also my decrease backlight brightness key
[16:54] <MWM> Im trying to set a USB ethernet adapter to start automatically. Ive added the driver to the startup files, but it still wont start
[16:56] <n1n0> hi. os is ubuntu 14.04 and inside is amd radeon r7 m360 graphic card. should fetch the drivers, but sudosh ./amd-driver-installer-x86.x86_64.run returns "unknown command"
[16:56] <hiwk> MWM: what do you mean by "wont start"?
[16:57] <hiwk> n1n0: it probably says which command is unknown?
[16:58] <MWM> I reboot -> login _> then no network connection until I manually load the driver. THis last time it hasnt even started by manually loading the driver (modprobe)
[16:58] <MWM> nor is it listed in the ifconfig -- which it usually is
[16:59] <maxtimbo> MWM, does sudo service network-manager restart do anything?
[17:00] <maxtimbo> I put a little bash script that runs that command on startup because my usb wifi card wasn't working properly
[17:00] <MWM> yessir: connected after sudo serviece network-manager restart
[17:00] <maxtimbo> MWM, you know how to make bash scripts?
[17:00] <MWM> resolv.conf appears to be empty on this reboot as well. I had already set it to use google DNS
[17:01] <Back2Basics> is /etc/environment run before a service starts?
[17:01] <MWM> no bash scripting knowledge. Crash course anywhere?
[17:02] <dev__> hi
[17:03] <dev__> i have few query related to udev rules..
[17:03] <maxtimbo> MWM, you're encountering the same problem i had. Use this bash script: http://pastebin.com/Gs4nGSJU
[17:03] <dev__> i want to know which all udev scripts create nodes inside /dev folder
[17:03] <functionoverform> MWM, there's lots of bash books, the manual, etc. if you're in a hurry you should figure out exactly what you want to automate, then go from there.
[17:03] <functionoverform> but basically just write what you want to a file, chmod +x filename
[17:04] <functionoverform> and put it in /bin/bash if you want to create a custome command.
[17:04] <functionoverform> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/84686/how-to-create-custom-commands-in-unix-linux
[17:05] <maxtimbo> MWM, use the command "sudo chmod 755 network-restart.sh" to change the permissions.
[17:05] <maxtimbo> MWM, move the script to /etc/init.d
[17:05] <MWM> is "+x" the actual argument or meant to be a variable for whatever permissions I want to set?
[17:05] <dev__> i want to know which all udev scripts create nodes inside /dev folder??
[17:05] <dev__> can anybody please help me?
[17:06] <MWM> Ahhh. thanks guys. Ill drop back in if it doesnt work :)
[17:06] <n1n0> hiwk just returns "unknown command"
[17:06] <maxtimbo> MWM, finally make sym link to /etc/rc4.d and append S07 or something like that
[17:06] <MWM> thanks for the link BTW
[17:06] <Peanut> Hi - is there an online repository where I can see the history of a particular file in a particular package? How does Ubuntu track its source internally, do they use e.g. git?
[17:07] <maxtimbo> MWM, http://askubuntu.com/questions/228304/how-do-i-run-a-script-at-start-up
[17:07] <nicomachus> Peanut: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:07] <Peanut> nicomachus: thanks. That gives me the per-release versions of the packages, but I would like to see the inside of those packages.
[17:08] <TJ-> dev__: the list of installed udev rules is got with "dpkg -L udev"
[17:09] <dev__> okay
[17:09] <dev__> thanks for the info
[17:09] <dev__> will check it
[17:09] <nicomachus> Peanut: search the package you want, then select the version you want, then you can view the changelog, download the source, whatever you want.
[17:09] <mcphail> Peanut: have a look on launchpad.net. Most packages are versioned using bzr, but there is support for git now so some may have switched
[17:10] <Peanut> mcphail: ah, that might be useful, thanks.
[17:10] <teward> Peanut: any specific package in question you're looking for? We can point you where you need to go
[17:10] <Peanut> nicomachus: I was hoping to prevent that, but that would work as well, yes.
[17:10] <teward> Peanut: though, to determine changes to a file that are *outside* the packaging itself (i.e. changes made upstream in the source code by the people who develop that program), you'd have to check those repositories and changelogs
[17:10] <Peanut> teward: the partman-auto udeb package. Something seems to have changed between Precise and Trusty which I'm trying to track down.
[17:12] <mcphail> Peanut: https://code.launchpad.net/partman-auto
[17:12] <mcphail> Peanut: does that help?
[17:13] <Peanut> mcphail: great, that seems to be just what I was looking for.
[17:13] <n1n0> hiwk had to "sudo sh amd-driver-installer-x86.x86_64.run" (space btw sudo and sh), but returned ""sh: 0: Can't open amd-driver-installer-x86.x86_64.run".
[17:13] <MWM> ive got no rc4 driector in /etc/init.d .... create it?
[17:13] <teward> Peanut: that should help you then, that link, note that between Precise and Trusty you're talking about two years of time, so finding the specific change/commit may be difficult
[17:13] <MWM> *directory
[17:14] <n1n0> hiwk should I have the "uni/multiverse" repository thing enabled somewhere?
[17:14] <Peanut> teward: I realise that - but I think I know which file has changed, so this should allow me to track the history of just that file, I hope.
[17:16] <teward> Peanut: indeed. Good hunting, and good luck!
[17:19] <n1n0> hiwk the ref. link here http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Catalyst-Linux-Installer-Notes.aspx#Install
[17:19] <rain_> hi
[17:20] <rain_> Have anyone tried to use strace to find out what files are written?
[17:20] <Guy1524> guys, is there a way for me press a button to toggle whether or not the mouse cursor is displayed on my screen?
[17:20] <Guy1524> I need this for a workaround for a game called Unturned which fails to hide the system cursor
[17:21] <nicomachus> Guy1524: are you running it in Wine?
[17:21] <Guy1524> no
[17:21] <nicomachus> native?
[17:21] <Guy1524> I am running the native version
[17:21] <nicomachus> ok. come on over to #gamingonlinux and we can help you out there. this isn't really an ubuntu question.
[17:21] <Kartagis> why would I be getting Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) as a result of apt-get install or autoremove?
[17:22] <Guy1524> ok, well I thought it would because I dont want to do anything directly with the game, disabling the cursor would be an OS question right
[17:22] <nicomachus> nah it's most likely in-game.
[17:23] <nicomachus> Kartagis: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and then run your install again
[17:23] <Guy1524> I know that the problem is with the game, but the solution I want has nothing to do with the game
[17:25] <Kartagis> nicomachus: Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:25] <nicomachus> Kartagis: when you tried dpkg --configure -a?
[17:26] <Kartagis> no, dpkg ran smoothly
[17:26] <Kartagis> after that
[17:26] <Kartagis> sorry, yes
[17:26] <nicomachus> ok, can you paste the full output at paste.ubuntu.com and then link here?
[17:26] <Kartagis> oh, no space left
[17:26] <Kartagis> heh
[17:28] <nicomachus> that'll do it
[17:29] <Kartagis> nicomachus: but no space left on /boot, I've still got 46gb on /
[17:30] <nicomachus> Kartagis: ok, no problem. What's the output of 'sudo ls -la /boot'?
[17:32] <Kartagis> nicomachus: I see many images not related to my kernel
[17:32] <nicomachus> Kartagis: yep, gonna have to manually remove some. Can you paste the full output on paste.ubuntu.com and link here?
[17:33] <Kartagis> http://termbin.com/5d2w
[17:33] <Kartagis> nicomachus: ^
[17:33] <nicomachus> that's not it...
[17:34] <nicomachus> that's only one line
[17:34] <nicomachus> should look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13504165/
[17:37] <Kartagis> nicomachus: heh, sorry I pasted uname -a output
[17:37] <oaulakh> is there any way i can get back my sound and ubuntu settings :(, nothing is working and nothing is fixxing with "apt-get install -f". help please
[17:38] <Kartagis> I removed them now, and I got 186m back
[17:38] <nicomachus> Kartagis: good. all set now?
[17:38] <finch_> i need help
[17:38] <Kartagis> hope so
[17:38] <Kartagis> finch_: don't we all?
[17:39] <finch_> how can i recover my deleted file from usb
[17:39] <finch_> with ubuntu mate
[17:39] <oaulakh> is there any way i can get back my sound and ubuntu settings :(, nothing is working and nothing is fixxing with "apt-get install -f". help please!
[17:40] <nicomachus> !patience | oaulakh
[17:40] <finch_> any software for that
[17:40] <nicomachus> finch_: can you explain what you're trying to do a little more?
[17:40] <nicomachus> recover what kind of file? from what kind of usb?
[17:41] <finch_> i have deleted my file from my usb drive i want it back
[17:42] <finch_> and software to recover the file
[17:43] <nicomachus> finch_: you may find this helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/3883/how-to-recover-deleted-files
[17:43] <finch_> ok
[17:43] <nicomachus> what type of filesystem is the USB using?
[17:44] <oaulakh> is there any way i can get back my sound and ubuntu settings :(, nothing is working and nothing is fixxing with "apt-get install -f". help please! http://paste.ubuntu.com/13504234/
[17:44] <MWM> booya! bash script given above + http://askubuntu.com/questions/228304/how-do-i-run-a-script-at-start-up worked. THanks
[17:45] <finch_> i want software for that is there any
[17:45] <nicomachus> oaulakh: "you have held broken packages" can often be fixed with 'sudo apt-get clean', but I'm curoius about how you ended up in this state.
[17:46] <nicomachus> finch_: there is, but first you have to tell me what kind of filesystem the USB uses. ext3, NTFS, FAT?
[17:46] <finch_> ntfs
[17:46] <oaulakh> i was removing pulseaudio and asla-base and ended up with in this :(
[17:47] <finch_> i will do what u show
[17:47] <nicomachus> finch_: then testdisk is probably your best option. see more here: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/testdisk/
[17:48] <oaulakh> nicomachus, do have any solution other than clean :( bcz it's not working and i dont want to install all cousmizationand my softwares from again in new ubuntu
[17:49] <nicomachus> oaulakh: Try just installing pulseaudio* and alsa-base*, see what happens. You've got a LOT going on in that paste.
[17:50] <oaulakh> its not working too :(
[17:51] <oaulakh> this paste was from some ubuntu form and i try install my system packages from that thing but nothing seems working
[17:51] <parapan> hi all; I am using a piece of software installed under ubuntu server 14.04; how do I uninstall it correctly ?
[17:51] <Pici> parapan: how did you install it?
[17:52] <parapan> Pici: the software is youtruck ...a track issue software ..by running ./youtrack.sh if I recall correctly
[17:53] <Guest92768> hiya, i messed up with the usb somehow and now it wont mount
[17:53] <mmx_agar> can any one tell how to fix an unreadable usb drive
[17:53] <daftykins> "the USB?"
[17:53] <Guest92768> nothing happens, the partition table cant be deleted, it can be formatted
[17:54] <Pici> parapan: You'll need to look at the youtrack documentation then, as that doesn't describe a standard install process.
[17:54] <Guest92768> i tried dding something to it, that also wont work
[17:54] <daftykins> use dd to wipe the table by writing some zeroes on
[17:54] <Guest92768> how?
[17:54] <daftykins> you just said you did that already.
[17:54] <mmx_agar> daftykins: it cant read the usb
[17:54] <Guest92768> i did sudo dd if=some big file of=/dev/sdb
[17:55] <parapan> Pici: that's the problem, they do not have a procedure for it; I want to re-install the software, but on a clean environment ...to be sure i'm doing everything correctly ..
[17:55] <Guest92768> it says io error cant sync
[17:55] <Guest92768> i think it happened when i tried to reformat it and it was still mounted
[17:55] <daftykins> Guest92768: then it just sounds dead.
[17:55] <daftykins> try another port + PC.
[17:56] <Guest92768> ok, it was a nice usb sigh
[17:56] <daftykins> they're a dime a dozen these days, you'll get over it ;)
[17:56] <Guest92768> hey, i forgot to tell this
[17:57] <Guest92768> there are two partitions on the usb and the second partition gets mounted
[17:57] <Guest92768> the first one is problematic
[17:57] <daftykins> is it read only...
[17:58] <parapan> Pici: sorry . . .some times one should just read all pages . . . ".If the previous version was installed from ZIP: delete the old installation directory.""
[17:58] <Guest92768> checking
[17:59] <Guest92768> how to see if it is read only?
[18:00] <Guest92768> i copied a file to it, it was there for a minute, then i removed the drive and reinserted, it was gone
[18:01] <Guest92768> i made a txt file on it, wrote characters and saved but it said the same thing io error
[18:01] <Guest92768> so now its gone?
[18:03] <AlexRednax> Hi :)
[18:03] <daftykins> try another system and try another USB port...
[18:04] <AlexRednax> Tomorrow i get a new 500GB SSD. Which size would you recommend for / and /home partitions?
[18:05] <daftykins> you know what software you use, check your current disk usage.
[18:06] <Bashing-om> AlexRednax: ^^ totally subjective to how you use your system and furure plans on the software that you "might" install .
[18:09] <Guest92768> daftykins, thanks, but i threw it out the window ;D i feel relieved
[18:11] <Guest92768> that usb was bad, it had attitude >.< so it wont work the way it should
[18:11] <Guest92768> quit
[18:12] <Bernzel> I'm using Chromium and I need adobe flash 10. How do I install it? Can't find it on Software center
[18:12] <daftykins> Bernzel: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree - it's not v10, that's ancient.
[18:13] <Bernzel> thanks! Do I need to restart for it to take change?
[18:17] <daftykins> Bernzel: the browser yes
[18:19] <momomo> anyone here using gnome 3 ? when I log out, i don't get logged out immediatly ... it takes about 30 seconds ... there is a timeout .. i am not sure why ... how can I get rid of that ?
[18:20] <lickalott> hey all. Recently (can't realy determine when exactly) my networkmanager service isn't starting. I have to start it manually. Is this a way to correct this?
[18:21] <aristoteles> hello to all people
[18:22] * lickalott waves
[18:23] <Bernzel> hmm didn't work daftykins
[18:25] <genii> lickalott: Check in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to make sure managed=true is there in the [ifupdown] section
[18:26] <zuippo> I'm using the ubuntu minimal cd to install ubuntu. During the network configuration the installer forces me to use WLAN, but i want to use LAN. I have the cable plugged in and the router reports that he has assigned an IP to my device. But the installer forces me to enter WLAN stuff.
[18:28] <lickalott> genii, it was false. I changed it. But why all the sudden would that be an issue, what would cause that? BTW: Thanks for the assist!
[18:30] <TJ-> genii: lickalott "managed=false" is how it should be; that controls whether NM tries to interfere with interfaces declared manually in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:31] <TJ-> lickalott: if the NM service doesn't start at boot-time, check it is enabled to auto-start, and if so, check the syslog or (with systemd) the journalctl log for that service
[18:32] <lickalott> TJ-, so keep it false in the .conf - copy. How can i determine if it is enabled to auto start? systemctl?
[18:32] <genii> TJ-: Ah, I thought this usarder was the one who altered his interfaces file to use the external USB->LAN adapter as the default instead of the onbo
[18:32] <TJ-> lickalott: which Ubuntu release is it?
[18:33] <lickalott> 15.04
[18:33] <lickalott> err...
[18:33] <lickalott> 15.10
[18:33] <TJ-> lickalott: we have *three* init systems to work with :) ... you sure? 15.10 means systemd then
[18:33] <lickalott> i'm starting to think it may have happened after the update
[18:33] <lickalott> 15.10 sir. 100%
[18:34] <TJ-> lickalott: OK "journalctl -u NetworkManager.service" will show you the log of that service
[18:35] <Bashing-om> zuippo: Really, does not make a lot of sense to me as the minimal (14.04)has no WIFI support . Maybe make sure the hardware is switched off, wired connection is plugged in and try the install once more ??
[18:36] <lickalott> TJ-, this was the first "failed"
[18:36] <lickalott> nm_device_get_device_type: assertion 'NM_IS_DEVICE (self)' failed
[18:36] <pers3us> TJ-: on fire! :D
[18:36] <lickalott> this was the 2nd - failed to enumerate oFono devices: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service
[18:38] <zuippo> Bashing-om: I'm using the 15.10 minimal from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD the wlan module is builtin and I don't want to use a screwdriver to install ubuntu :D. I'm trying to unload the kernel module
[18:39] <aswartza> what's a recommended ubuntu backup backup tool that includes a cli?
[18:40] <genii> rsync
[18:41] <Bashing-om> zuippo: I am surprised that ANY WIFI support is in the default minimal environment . Is this a laptop with a WIFI toggle switch to turn on/off the WIFI ?
[18:41] <dionysus69> please anyone explain to me why I might be getting this on resume from hibernation. https://gist.github.com/webzorg/bfea833f4348a49290f1 I also get the following error sometimes that the UEFI variable memory is full and whether to clean it or not.
[18:43] <TJ-> lickalott: best to pastebin the entire log: "journalctl -u NetworkManager.service | pastebinit"
[18:43] <zuippo> Bashing-om: ip link show tells me it detects only a single network device. The minimal installer tells me it failed to scan for wlan networks and asks me for an SSID and if it's WPA/TKIP or WEP. I think the installer detects the ethernet card as wlan... It is a laptop, i will try to switch wlan of and run ip list show again
[18:43] <lickalott> k. wait 1
[18:44] <TJ-> zuippo: sounds like that may be caused by systemd-udevd and its naming scheme. what's the name of the network interface?
[18:44] <lickalott> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13504825/
[18:45] <zuippo> TJ-: wlp0sp or something like that
[18:46] <TJ-> Ouch! I've just found a ~20 year old bug in every single package in Debian and all derivative archives - trust me to do unconventional things !
[18:46] <MWM> signon-ui crashed with SIGSEGV .... because Im running headless?
[18:47] <pers3us> TJ-: Is that for real?
[18:47] <TJ-> zuippo: right, and the 'wl' prefix is given to Wireless. What device is the chipset, can you tell with "lspci -nnd ::0200'
[18:47] <zuippo> TJ-: wlp2s0b1 to be precise. Any way to force it to use it as a wired connection?
[18:47] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Trusted to "read the code". when it makes no sense, finds out why !
[18:48] <Guest75502> How do you get the unity launcher bar unstuck?
[18:48] <TJ-> pers3us: yeah, it's a weird one, a 'convention' but it bites if you do things unconventionally
[18:48] <Guest75502> It's set to autohide, but now it's stuck out, and the damned thing wont pop back away :/
[18:48] <pers3us> TJ-: Is it with packaging?
[18:49] <zuippo> TJ-: Broadcom BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:1629]
[18:49] <TJ-> pers3us: yes
[18:49] <pers3us> TJ-: Link for issue tracker?
[18:50] <TJ-> lickalott: right, let's check the service status: "systemctl status NetworkManager.service" tell us what the 3rd line "Loaded: ..." shows
[18:50] <TJ-> pers3us: none as yet, I need to figure out how to report it... diplomatically
[18:51] <pers3us> TJ-: Oh, that kind of a bug :D
[18:52] <zuippo> TJ-: was that directed to me? I don't have systemctl since I'm in a minimal cd (only have a CD and no usb stick here...)
[18:52] <TJ-> pers3us: summing it up though, 'tar' used to create the .deb packages doesn't use "--numeric-owner" when creating the packages, which means on a system where root != UID 0, things break in interesting ways. Just got hit by it using deboostrap, for example
[18:52] <TJ-> zuippo: no, that was for lickalott
[18:52] <zuippo> TJ-: sorry thought you confused name since it also sounded network related :x
[18:53] <TJ-> zuippo: so, the problem (bug) is udevd thinking that 14e4:1629 is wireless and giving the i/f a "wl" prefix
[18:53] <lickalott> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13504913/
[18:53] <zuippo> TJ-: and there is no way to force the minimal cd to treat it as an ethernet connection?
[18:54] <pers3us> TJ-: That is weird. Why would they assume that root will always be UID 0?
[18:54] <TJ-> zuippo: ok, see "man systemd.link" for an explanation. That also hints at some boot-time over-rides you may be able to use to work around it
[18:56] <TJ-> pers3us: I've been hitting a few of these issues since I started building an unconventional distro spin and one thing I do is have root != 0, just to spoil the fun of some immature malware code.
[18:57] <TJ-> lickalott: how do you determine, at boot-time, that network manager isn't running?
[18:58] <foul_owl> Does Ubuntu release a dhcp lease when the system is shutdown with the "shutdown -h now" command?
[18:58] <TJ-> lickalott: That systemctl output shows the service is enabled for auto-start "enabled; vendor preset: enabled" ... and the log doesn't show any problems with it starting.
[18:58] <foul_owl> Or do I have to manually release the dhcp lease before shutdown?
[18:59] <TJ-> foul_owl: generally it keeps the lease. I think you can custom-configure dhclient to release
[19:00] <pers3us> TJ-: Interesting. What exactly is this distro?
[19:00] <Gambit15> Hey all, anyone here able to give a hand with port binding issue I'm having?
[19:00] <foul_owl> Ah gotcha. I ran out of leases from testing too many vms!
[19:00] <Gambit15> I've got apache configured to listen on port 80 on 1 IP, and now I'm trying to setup another service on port 80 for another IP
[19:01] <Gambit15> netstat shows apache is bound to that one IP
[19:01] <TJ-> pers3us: me respinning Ubuntu for security integration, self-healing, and general joined-up thinking :)
[19:01] <Gambit15> ...and yet when I try to start up the service on the other IP, it throws me a bind error...
[19:03] <MWM> If I use a dummy driver/monitor on a headless machine do I even need a video card at all? Can I set the Resolution and screen size to any size?
[19:03] <pers3us> TJ-: Nice, ya saw deboostrap, they are using forcing UID 0 to tar it..
[19:03] <TJ-> foul_owl: I think "dhclient -r" should release
[19:04] <foul_owl> Sounds good!
[19:04] <foul_owl> I was curious what the default behavior was
[19:04] <TJ-> foul_owl: see /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases for the current/expired leases
[19:06] <refosk> join #zuba_hlod
[19:06] <refosk> #zuba_hlod
[19:06] <refosk> mmm
[19:06] <pers3us> TJ-: Distro Name?
[19:07] <pers3us> Details?
[19:07] <refosk> help
[19:07] <refosk> XD
[19:07] <refosk> -help
[19:07] <TJ-> pers3us: off topic :)
[19:07] <pers3us> TJ-: PM?
[19:07] <pers3us> :D
[19:08] <refosk> pm #pers3us
[19:08] <refosk> fck XD
[19:08] <pers3us> :D
[19:10] <btorch_> anyone here knows how to find out which drive actually has xfs corruption when the logs do not actually show the device block
[19:10] <foul_owl> Ah yeah, I've looked through that file
[19:10] <foul_owl> Just wanted to know if Ubuntu releases a dhcp lease when shut down
[19:11] <btorch> scanning 90+ drives that are 3T would just take crazy long time with xfs_repair -n
[19:12] <alex____1> ppf
[19:12] <daftykins> Bernzel: define 'didn't work'
[19:13] <TJ-> pers3us: nice workaround: bind-mount a 'fake' passwd on /etc/passwd whilst debootstrap is running, sorted it
[19:15] <pers3us> Cool. I sent you a PM btw TJ-
[19:15] <pers3us> :D
[19:17] <TJ-> pers3us: oh, sorry, I have umode +g so don't get them
[19:18] <pers3us> TJ-: I got a response back saying u have g+ :D
[19:19] <pers3us> TJ-: Just wanted to know more about this distro you are working on.
[19:22] <cyber37> Hi guy's, i have a problems, i can scroll down with my mouse, but whe, i croll up it scroll but stop scrolling afte some lines
[19:22] <cyber37> is it a known bug ?
[19:22] <cyber37> Virus possibility ?
[19:22] <nicomachus> cyber37: scrolling in what?
[19:23] <subjz> y video on Ubuntu is lagging too much in virtual box???
[19:23] <nicomachus> subjz: You need to enable 3D acceleration
[19:23] <cyber37> with the mouse
[19:23] <cyber37> in everything
[19:23] <cyber37> a web page, eclipse etc
[19:24] <nicomachus> subjz: see here: https://www.maketecheasier.com/enable-3d-acceleration-in-virtualbox/
[19:24] <cyber37> I scroll down, then i can scroll up "a litle"
[19:24] <cyber37> But if i scroll up it stop scrolling after some lines and then i can't scroll up while i don't scroll down
[19:25] <cyber37> I don't know if it's a know issue on ubuntu , or what
[19:25] <cyber37> Maybe if the mouse was HS i will be not able to scroll up after a scroll down ..
[19:25] <k1l> cyber37: never heard of such an issue
[19:25] <cyber37> oh wait !
[19:25] <cyber37> I see that in the console it work perfectly
[19:26] <cyber37> i can scroll all the history messages of irssi
[19:26] <cyber37> if doesn't stop scrolling
[19:28] <alexandre_> hi
[19:32] <nicomachus> !pm | subjz
[19:33] <nicomachus> subjz: that's a very common error, and the very first recommended fix is to make sure guest additions are installed and 3D acceleration is enabled.
[19:36] <subjz> @nicomachus thanks man
[19:38] <Cafe> Anyone here know a little about C++?
[19:40] <TJ-> Cafe: Probably, but that might be a question better suited to ##programming or a c++ specific channel
[19:41] <Pici> Cafe: the folks in ##c++ do
[19:41] <Cafe> Thanks for the tips
[19:41] <Cafe> I joined the ##c++ channel, but couldn't type for some reason
[19:41] <sweatsuit> does anyone know how well ubuntu 14 handles a 4k monitor?
[19:41] <Cafe> I'll try out ##programming though, thanks!
[19:42] <benstrumental> Cafe: I hear #debian is pretty good at answering C++ questions, #ubuntu is more for Python questions IMHO
[19:42] <benstrumental> :P
[19:42] <Pici> benstrumental: err... lets not spread that misinformation here.
[19:43] <Pici> I know you meant it as a joke, but text isn't a great joke medium :)
[19:43] <TJ-> yeah, comedy belongs on the radio!
[19:43] <Pici> yeah!
[19:43] <heedly> Is there any way to search for markings that have similiar bases in Character Map?
[19:44] <benstrumental> Pici: Just trying to liven things up around here
[19:44] <benstrumental> Pici: There are still some humans around here
[19:44] <TJ-> I'm a C++ 'bot
[19:46] <nicomachus> you wish
[19:48] <nicomachus> sweatsuit: should handle it just fine, the question is your GPU and drivers.
[19:48] <Ripmind> How can i debug a service? i am trying to do service pyload start and nothing happens
[19:49] <Ripmind> the init file looks like this: http://p.styler2go.de/?36 and when i execute the pyLoadCore manually it also works
[19:50] <k1l> Ripmind: which ubunut are you on?
[19:50] <Ripmind> 14.04.03 LTS
[19:51] <sweatsuit> nicomachus: thanks... hardware considerations aside, i was curious how well the UI scaling is across apps
[19:58] <foul_owl> Anyone know how to manually release DHCP leases from a dhcpd server?
[20:00] <k1l> foul_owl: reconnect to the network on networkmanager, erstart whole networking, ....
[20:01] <k1l> foul_owl: sudo dhclient -r
[20:02] <foul_owl> The client no longer exists, I'm talking about from the _server_
[20:03] <foul_owl> ie, I've been creating and nuking vms all day, now my dhcp server is out of leases
[20:03] <foul_owl> Since ubuntu doesn't release the lease upon shutdown...
[20:04] <k1l> foul_owl: what server is that? a router?
[20:05] <genii> foul_owl: /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leases or if using dnsmasq to assign them, /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases
[20:05] <k1l> foul_owl: today some(most?) routers/dhcpservers) are set to reuse the same ip for the same mac adress. so make sure that setting is off if you dont want that
[20:06] <foul_owl> It's a dhcp server, that's all
[20:06] <foul_owl> Router is a separate device
[20:07] <foul_owl> Aha!
[20:08] <MannyLNJ> Hello. Using the guide at http://www.instructables.com/id/Host-Your-Own-Virtual-Private-Network-VPN-with-O/?ALLSTEPS I am having a problem installing OpenVpn . I get to step 5 and then I get the message cp: cannot stat ‘/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/*’: No such file or directory
[20:08] <foul_owl> Ok so I find the relevant lease {} block, remove the block and then?
[20:08] <foul_owl> Do I restart dhcpd or is there a reload command?
[20:09] <ioria> you cannot flush them ?
[20:09] <foul_owl> Is flushing different from releasing?
[20:12] <ioria> no, i think basically not
[20:18] <Ntemis> hello guys
[20:19] <Ntemis> i want to setup an ubuntu arm board to be a router
[20:19] <Ntemis> it has only 1 eth0 port and several usb2
[20:20] <Ntemis> i want to setup my usb wifi stick to be the one that clients connect to
[20:24] <lickalott> sorry TJ- my battery died and I didn't have my laptop plugged in. I see a message (i'd have to grab it from the system log), but mostly I notice that from within the desktop it's not enabled. I have to manually start the process.
[20:25] <eFfeM> hi, i want to install the fglrx driver but it tells me fglrx-core depends on lib32gcc1, but this is on a 64 bit system, what is wrong here and how to fix ?
[20:29] <umdx> hi, how do i install the graphic driver for Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller. it won't let me watch twitch tv without lagging
[20:29] <Jordan_U> skasturi: On BIOS based systems the boot firmware doesn't know anything about partition tables at all, let alone boot flags. The BIOS will read the first sector of the drive, the MBR, into memory and jump to it. So you need to be sure that you have a bootloader installed to the mbr, /dev/sda , not to a partition like /dev/sda1.
[20:30] <Jordan_U> umdx: Intel graphics should be configured with the correct driver by default, do you have issues with other video playing applications?
[20:32] <cado> Is this an appropriate venue to ask questions about headless booting of 15.10? I have an odd issue where only when the graphics card is removed, my networking seems to fail. I have noticed the names ubuntu renames the interfaces to are deterministic but different between video card present versus removed. I attempted to define a consistent naming scheming in udev/rules.d but that didn’t seem to have any affect even when adding arguments to the boot list. I do
[20:32] <cado> know if that is the point of failure, but I figured I would try to isolate it as not being the problem if possible.
[20:34] <umdx> anyone here uses i3/?
[20:37] <cado> I have pastebin’d the failure and success boot logs respectively http://pastebin.com/jUzNdR02 http://pastebin.com/whYfMbN6
[20:38] <DaleT> trying to upgrade 14.04 to 14.10. getting error An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[20:38] <k1l> umdx: usually you dont need to install a driver for intel since its drvers are in the driver
[20:38] <k1l> *drivers are in the kernel
[20:38] <k1l> DaleT: 14.10 is dead since july.
[20:38] <Bashing-om> eFfeM: What release ? 15.10 presently so far As I am aware the released proprietary driver has not hit the repo .
[20:38] <k1l> DaleT: do you want to upgrade to 15.10?
[20:39] <DaleT> can i upgrade 14.10 to 15.10?
[20:39] <k1l> DaleT: what ubuntu are you on exactly? "lsb_release -d" gives you a number
[20:40] <DaleT> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[20:40] <k1l> DaleT: so you want to upgrade to 15.10?
[20:40] <Skyrider> Is there any bandwidth monitors for databases?
[20:41] <Skyrider> Would be nice to see how much bandwidth my databases are using up
[20:41] <DaleT> yeah, have it on all other computers, this is the stragler. sweetie is ready for it. 15.10
[20:41] <DaleT> never had this error before
[20:41] <k1l> DaleT: the see !eolupgrades to get to 14.10. then same procedure to get to 15.04
[20:41] <k1l> !eolupgrades | DaleT
[20:41] <ioria> info iptraf
[20:42] <k1l> DaleT: non LTS only got 9 months support now and the 14.10 repos are shut down already.
[20:42] <ioria> !info iptraf
[20:43] <popsikle> Does anyone know when https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/B00JV9TBA6/ref=srh_res_product_title?ie=UTF8&sr=0-3&qid=1448483548623 will get updated for all the new flavors, like m4?
[20:43] <DaleT> thank youi k1l
[20:51] <Grimm_> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 15.10 on my other computer (it runs Windows 7 and is 32bits) but it keeps giving me an error: 'Boot Error'. I'm installing from a bootable flash drive made Ubuntu 15.04's Start-up disk creator
[20:51] <Grimm_> Please how ddo I fix this?
[20:52] <Grimm_> *do
[20:52] <TJ-> Grimm_: "Boot error" is a report from the syslinux boot code, meaning it cannot find the rest of the boot-loader
[20:52] <ioria> Grimm_, can you type help ?
[20:54] <Grimm_> ioria: Please ioria, I don't understand what you mean
[20:54] <TJ-> Grimm_: this is a known bug, due to being built by GCC v5 ( previous releases used GCC v4.9)
[20:54] <ioria> Grimm_, after Boot error , do you have a prompt ?
[20:54] <TJ-> Grimm_: I committed the bug-fix yesterday but it'll be a while until it gets into the archives
[20:55] <TJ-> Grimm_: bug 1507002
[20:56] <Grimm_> After the Boot Error when I press any key it beeps and the error is written again
[20:56] <ioria> Grimm_, try help
[20:56] <TJ-> ioria: it's no good; it won't do anything. the fix is not yet in the archives
[20:57] <ioria> TJ- i had a similar issue with start-up disk creator... i type help ann then enter and the system booted...
[20:58] <ioria> TJ- i admit... i don't know why
[21:01] <TJ-> it can depend on the host CPU, the issue is the data structure alignment changed due to GCC 5
[21:01] <qu4nt1n> !s limitless s01e09
[21:02] <ioria> TJ- it was a pentium 4, ibm netvista
[21:02] <TJ-> Grimm_: this is the duplicate bug that probably describes your issue: bug 1499746
[21:03] <Grimm_> So how do I fix it
[21:05] <TJ-> Grimm_: you'd need to build syslinux yourself with the patch attached to the bug report, or wait for the fixed packages to get into the archives
[21:06] <TJ-> Grimm_: there's a version in my bug-fixes PPA if you want to test it https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/bugfixes
[21:07] <Grimm_> I am sooo new to Linux that I dought if I'll be able to build syslinux myself
[21:08] <Grimm_> But I'll check the link
[21:08] <Grimm_> thanks
[21:08] <TJ-> !ppa | Grimm_: see my PPA then
[21:21] <jeboyydennis> heyy
[21:21] <jeboyydennis> when I boot into my new elementary os install next to windows I get the grub command line
[21:21] <OerHeks> l
[21:21] <jebnoyydennis> hey again, oolps disconnected
[21:21] <jebnoyydennis> when I boot into my new elementary os install next to windows I get the grub command line
[21:22] <jebnoyydennis> I try to get help here as elementary os is based on ubuntu and there is no one active on their irc
[21:22] <OerHeks> jebnoyydennis, sorry to hear that, but forks are not supported here, elementary has its own issues
[21:22] <TJ-> !elementary | jebnoyydennis
[21:22] <jebnoyydennis> I tried there
[21:22] <jebnoyydennis> but there is no one there
[21:22] <jebnoyydennis> and I get the same issue on other distros
[21:22] <jebnoyydennis> so not sure if its related
[21:22] <k1l> jebnoyydennis: then try ##linux or see their website where to get support.
[21:23] <EriC^^> jebnoyydennis: /join ##linux
[21:23] <jebnoyydennis> alright guys!
[21:23] <jebnoyydennis> thanks
[21:23] <jebnoyydennis> EriC^^: 1 sec I need to reg nickserv
[21:24] <EriC^^> ok
[21:25] <asad_> Hi. I'm having a problem with the touchpad of my laptop. It doesn't work but if I close the lid then reopen it, it starts working. How do I fix this?
[21:26] <TJ-> asad_: that sounds like an ACPI issue
[21:26] <TJ-> asad_: what make/model of PC?
[21:26] <asad_> TJ-: Dell 7348
[21:28] <TJ-> asad_: which Ubuntu release? That model is certified for 14.04 LTS: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201408-15442/
[21:28] <asad_> TJ-: It's one of the certified laptops listed on ubuntu's website. Why, then, is this a problem?
[21:29] <eelstrebor> where can i get detailed info on using kaffeine using a dvb card? the info i've found so far is seriously lacking
[21:29] <asad_> TJ-: What do I do?
[21:31] <blade> my question regarding how to configure proxychains in virtualbox
[21:31] <qwertyuiop> hi
[21:32] <blade> when i type this command sudo nano /etc/proxychains.conf
[21:32] <Guest66166> what happens, blade
[21:32] <blade> im getting a blank screen, can someone help me
[21:33] <Guest66166> ok im only 11, but trying leafpad /etc/proxychains.conf should work
[21:34] <blade> guest66166 leafpad in the terminal ?
[21:34] <Guest66166> yo blade did it work
[21:34] <officialdellacry> Im running ubuntu 15.04 and i am having trouble getting Steam to run, it installed ok
[21:34] <k1l> blade: what do you expect?
[21:34] <k1l> blade: do you get the nano editor in terminal? what is the issue?
[21:35] <blade> getting a blank screen
[21:35] <asad_> TJ-: ?
[21:35] <blade> is not giving me anything to configure
[21:35] <k1l> blade: is there a proxychains.conf in /etc/ ?
[21:36] <blade> i try that, and when i type enter is just a blank screen
[21:37] <Guest66166> maybe try checking in a graphical text editor if the file appears blank
[21:37] <k1l> blade: did you install it? what ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:37] <officialdellacry> Is there a way I can post the terminal output when i run 'steam' in terminal?
[21:37] <blade> 14.04 lts
[21:38] <blade> yes i have installed it
[21:38] <TJ-> asad_: I don't think you answered my question yet: which Ubuntu release is it?
[21:39] <thecheshirecat_> hi everyone !
[21:40] <thecheshirecat_> i have a problem with my notebook (asus e202s)
[21:40] <mentoc> Hello, I'm trying to customize my boot by hitting f6 or e or something to get grub to show me options, but instead it just shows a purplish-black screen and ignores my input.
[21:40] <asad_> TJ-: Oh I'm sorry. It's ubuntu 14.04.03 LTS.
[21:41] <thecheshirecat_> it freezes during the boot, line Starting WPA Supplicant, when it is not connected to power
[21:41] <mentoc> I'm trying to fix a problem that causes the screen to be completely blank. I don't mean that the screen is on and it's painting black pixles, what I mean is the screen has no light on at all
[21:41] <mentoc> it works fine with ubuntu live usb
[21:41] <Jordan_U> mentoc: Is this a BIOS or UEFI based machine?
[21:42] <mentoc> Jordan_U: how do I tell?
[21:42] <mentoc> It says BIOS
[21:42] <thecheshirecat_> (scuse my horrible english, i'm french)
[21:42] <officialdellacry> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 15.04 and I am trying to get Steam to run. It installed fine but outputs nothing and hangs in Terminal when 'steam' is run from there.
[21:43] <thecheshirecat_> and the battery indicator is wrong
[21:43] <mentoc> Yeah okay wtf, all of a sudden it works
[21:44] <mentoc> PFM
[21:44] <mentoc> lmao
[21:44] <thecheshirecat_> it doesn't change the state when i plug/unplug the cable
[21:44] * mentoc shoots himself
[21:44] <Guest92064> officialdellacry: i have tried to get steam run multiple times on ubuntu. had issues over and over again. i then installed steam os on a dedicated hdd, that works like a charm. you might give it a try
[21:45] <officialdellacry> Dedicated HDD? I mean, this is a somewhat-older Gaming Laptop with a Core 2 Duo T800 and 4GB of ram as well as a Nvidia 8800 GTS.
[21:45] <officialdellacry> Could it run Steam OS?
[21:45] <k1l> officialdellacry: nvidia-current installed?
[21:45] <officialdellacry> I'm not sure.
[21:46] <officialdellacry> How do I tell/Do that/
[21:46] <DanielL> officialdellacry: depends - not tried yet on such a hardware. unfortunately, steam os requires a dedicated hard drive since the installer will format the whole disk....
[21:46] <officialdellacry> I do not mind giving it a try.
[21:46] <officialdellacry> I have nothing to lose on this HDD.
[21:46] <k1l> officialdellacry: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[21:47] <officialdellacry> Terminal output: Kernel driver in use: nouveau
[21:47] <k1l> officialdellacry: there you go
[21:47] <officialdellacry> How do I install nvidia-current?
[21:47] <k1l> officialdellacry: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[21:47] <officialdellacry> okay, thank you.
[21:47] <officialdellacry> okay, thank you.
[21:48] <DanielL> would like to know if that works, can you test that right now?
[21:48] <officialdellacry> I can try installing SteamOS to give you an answer.
[21:48] <officialdellacry> I dont mind at all ^^;
[21:48] <DanielL> i still remember that nvidia-current didn't solve the problem for me...
[21:49] <k1l> there is no need to install steam os. just install the prop. nvidia driver and steam will load
[21:49] <akik> DanielL: how do you install steam on a laptop if it formats the disk?
[21:49] <officialdellacry> Currently installing it.
[21:49] <akik> oh steam os
[21:49] <DanielL> if that works, fine :)
[21:49] <officialdellacry> Itll be a bit
[21:49] <officialdellacry> GG WIndstream.
[21:50] <DanielL> akik: you can download steam os as an iso file. burn it to a disc or usb flash drive
[21:50] <TJ-> asad_: I'd look at /var/log/kern.log for clues, and possibly /var/log/syslog. Look for anything mentioning the synaptics (touchpad) driver. Also, possibly /var/log/Xorg.0.log (that's the GUI X server log)
[21:50] <thecheshirecat_> nobody knows this problem ? :(
[21:51] <DanielL> akik: don't mix it up ---- steam -> package for ubuntu..... steam os -> operating system
[21:51] <officialdellacry> it finished installing, attempting to launch steam now.
[21:51] <DanielL> k
[21:52] <officialdellacry> It hung again.
[21:52] <officialdellacry> Terminal Output: Xlib: extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:52] <asad_> TJ-: There are a lot of "i2c_designware INT3433:00: controller timed out"
[21:52] <k1l> officialdellacry: need to at least logout and relogin (maybe restart) to load the drivers
[21:52] <asad_> TJ-: in /var/log/kern.log
[21:52] <officialdellacry> Right, sorry.
[21:52] <officialdellacry> Still new to this.
[21:52] <TJ-> asad_: 'designware' ... seen that before, isn't that some kind of HID/mouse/game controller?
[21:53] <officialdellacry> be right abck.
[21:53] <asad_> TJ-: I'm sorry but I don't know much about all this...
[21:53] <daftykins> thecheshirecat_: was it a clean install? we have no information on the history of this system
[21:55] <thecheshirecat_> @daftykins : yes, clean install, ubuntu wily
[21:55] <daftykins> thecheshirecat_: considered trying again with 14.04.3 ?
[21:56] <thecheshirecat_> no ! i tried with wily, xenial (alpha) and under fedora
[21:56] <daftykins> well 14.04 is LTS, so it's a worthy choice
[21:56] <thecheshirecat_> ok, so i will download an iso and try again
[21:57] <thecheshirecat_> thank you =) i'll come back if it still doesn't work
[21:59] <TJ-> thecheshirecat_: that sounds like the ACPI firmware interface isn't informing the OS of the event.
[22:00] <thecheshirecat_> @TJ : i tried to add acpi=off and acpi_osi=Linux
[22:00] <thecheshirecat_> in grub
[22:01] <thecheshirecat_> but it hasn't changed the problem
[22:01] <thecheshirecat_> solved* (scuse my poor english >>')
[22:01] <TJ-> thecheshirecat_: you were on the correct lines with "acpi_osi=" but my bet would be you need to set that to one fo the Windows versions that ACPI DSDT supports
[22:01] <TJ-> thecheshirecat_: the usual problem is that the firmware doesn't provide full services when the OS is Linux, so it has to pretend to be a Windows version instead
[22:02] <TJ-> thecheshirecat_: what's the highest Windows version reported with "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" ?
[22:02] <asad_> TJ-: So there is nothing I can do?
[22:03] <TJ-> asad_: if the model is certified that suggests there is something unique that has changed on your particular PC, possibly the firmware version?
[22:04] <TJ-> asad_: as I said earlier - the logs will be the place to discover clues if there are any to be found
[22:04] <thecheshirecat_> @TJ : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13507301/
[22:05] <thecheshirecat_> looks like Microsoft Windows NT
[22:05] <asad_> TJ-: On http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201408-15442/, it says "hybrid suspend does not work on this system"
[22:06] <lmmx> Hi, I think Unicode Entry (via Ctrl+Shift+U) is broken on Linux Mint 17+, but it was notably the version that switched to Ubuntu 14.04: can anyone on Ubuntu 14 confirm non-working please? It doesn't seem to have been registered in changelog known bugs for Mint http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/209293/mint-17-cinnamon-ctrlshiftu-not-letting-me-enter-unicode-symbols
[22:06] <Jordan_U> TJ-: You've got to love "Windows 2017".
[22:07] <daftykins> lmmx: i take it you know of the IRC network and channel where you get Mint support? since we don't support it here (i know your question is about how it works on proper Ubuntu)
[22:08] <thecheshirecat_> Jordan_U: why ? it's the result of TJ's command
[22:08] <daftykins> since 2017 is the future ;)
[22:09] <Jordan_U> thecheshirecat_: It's just funny that the firmware seems to be trying to guess what Windows will call itself in the future.
[22:09] <daftykins> it's not.
[22:09] <thecheshirecat_> ok ><
[22:10] <thecheshirecat_> hard to recognize irony in english
[22:11] <TJ-> thecheshirecat_: I'd suggest trying "acpi_osi=Windows 2016"
[22:11] <lmmx> daftykins: I asked already there, but I want to check if it's the Mint upgrade or the base Ubuntu upgrade, so need to know from both parties
[22:12] <daftykins> lmmx: okie dokie, just checking
[22:12] <lmmx> Could anyone on Ubuntu 14 check for me please? e.g. Ctrl + Shift + U + 2022 will give a bullet point symbol
[22:12] <TJ-> thecheshirecat_: on the kernel command line make sure to surround the entire parameter with quotation marks else the space after 'Windows' will prevent the option being parsed correctly
[22:13] <Jordan_U> lmmx: Works fine on Xubuntu 14.04 here.
[22:13] <tgm4883> lmmx: works on Ubuntu 14.04 here as well
[22:13] <lmmx> thanks Jordan_U tgm4883, grr.. I use this all the time, no note it was broken in Mint changelogs
[22:14] <daftykins> that's Mint for you :)
[22:14] <adrian_1908> hello. I have a problem. I'm mounting /tmp as ramfs. So far I ran into no issues but now that Ubuntu wants to do an update, it reports "not enough space in /tmp". I have no shortage of RAM and can copy gigs of data onto there.
[22:14] <tgm4883> daftykins: lol
[22:14] <lmmx> heyyyy haha
[22:14] <daftykins> :D
[22:14] <Bashing-om> lmmx: my result : sysop@1404mini:~$ ) .
[22:15] <daftykins> adrian_1908: "mount" would probably show you /tmp is small though no? surely you have to define a size to use
[22:15] <lmmx> thanks all, I'll take it back to mint :-)
[22:15] <TJ-> adrian_1908: using tmpfs is a better bet for /tmp/
[22:16] <thecheshirecat_> TJ-: thank you very much :
[22:16] <adrian_1908> These are my fstab settings: ramfs /tmp ramfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777,size=16G 0 0
[22:16] <thecheshirecat_> i'll try this solution and i come back later to say if the trouble is still here
[22:16] <adrian_1908> TJ-: tmpfs won't use swap unless it's the very last resort, correct?
[22:17] <adrian_1908> I have plenty of ram and don't want linux to be stupid about it.
[22:17] <TJ-> adrian_1908:
[22:17] <TJ-> One downside of ramfs is you can keep writing data into it until you fill up all memory, and the VM can't free it because the VM thinks that files +should get written to backing store (rather than swap space), but ramfs hasn't got any backing store. Because of this, only root (or a trusted user) should be allowed write access to a ramfs mount.
[22:17] <Jordan_U> adrian_1908: According to "man mount" ramfs doesn't accept any options, it really looks like you meant that fstab entry for tmpfs.
[22:18] <adrian_1908> TJ-: I see, I wasn't aware of that.
[22:18] <TJ-> adrian_1908: just switch it to use tmpfs :)
[22:18] <adrian_1908> Jordan_U: Ok, my mistake. I'll switch over to tmpfs then.
[22:19] <lmmx> can anyone give me the value of `echo $GTK_IM_MODULE` on Ubuntu please?
[22:19] <lmmx> (preferably Ubuntu 14)
[22:20] <k1l> should be ibus
[22:20] <lmmx> mm
[22:20] <Jordan_U> lmmx: "xim" for me.
[22:20] <lmmx> hmm.. okay that's what I have..
[22:21] <Bashing-om> lmmx: xfce4: no return for " echo $GTK_IM_MODULE " .
[22:21] <lmmx> Bashing-om: sounds like you have problems with your setup from those last 2 outputs
[22:22] <lmmx> Bashing-om: or maybe it defaults to something else if blank, don't know
[22:22] <Bashing-om> lmmx: Minimal install .. All works, I have no presently known peoblems .
[22:26] <jedininjarob> hey is there a terminal command to save an open Gedit document befor closing?
[22:27] <k1l> jedininjarob: press ctrl+s
[22:27] <jedininjarob> i know that but from terminal?
[22:27] <k1l> but i dont know a remote command to save an opened gedit session
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> jedininjarob man gedit does not show that option
[22:28] <Jordan_U> jedininjarob: What is your end goal?
[22:28] <jedininjarob> to control the open gedit file with terminal save then close
[22:29] <jedininjarob> i geuss a macro/ script
[22:29] <Jordan_U> jedininjarob: Yes, but why? What is your end goal?
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> jedininjarob why not edit the document in the terminal?
[22:29] <adrian_1908> Jordan_U: Sorry to bug you again, but looking at the mount manpage section on tmpfs, are the options listed there in addition to the ones mentioned early on in the page ('noexec', 'relatime' etc.)? Do you happen to know?
[22:30] <adrian_1908> (Or are they the only ones that apply)
[22:31] <Jordan_U> adrian_1908: They are in addition to. So noexec and relatime do apply to tmpfs.
[22:31] <adrian_1908> Thanks!
[22:31] <Jordan_U> adrian_1908: You're welcome.
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> jedininjarob short answer: no it's not possible
[22:31] <jedininjarob> what i am asking is there a way to save and close any open gedit documents by pressing a hot key//// with out using the mouse/// an automation task
[22:32] <jedininjarob> ahhh ok
[22:32] <thecheshirecat> it doesn't work
[22:32] <thecheshirecat> but i get some lines after WPA Supplicant :
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> jedininjarob edit the document with nano or so
[22:32] <Jordan_U> jedininjarob: *WHY* do you want such a hotkey?
[22:33] <thecheshirecat> NMI watchdog : BUG:soft lockup
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> jedininjarob i guess you think there's only gedit to edit text documents
[22:33] <jedininjarob> just a task i am trying to solve make things faster with out having to use mouse all day
[22:33] <thecheshirecat> CPU#0 stuck for 22s
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> jedininjarob in a terminal, type nano [your document]
[22:34] <thecheshirecat> it's a nightmare
[22:35] <TJ-> thecheshirecat: right, so try some of the other values; maybe "Windows 2015" and work backwards. Each of those values causes the firmware to configure different functionality
[22:35] <TJ-> thecheshirecat: generally, the more recent the Windows version, the more functionality provided
[22:35] <guest-HrN9Nx> hi
[22:35] <Jordan_U> MonkeyDust: I don't see how that actually helps jedininjarob get any closer to closing and saving all text files they're editing with a hotkey.
[22:35] <jedininjarob> what i am asking round about is if the mouse can do it with just a click why could there not be a way to exacute that via terminal?
[22:35] <thecheshirecat> ok, i'll try 2015
[22:35] <guest-HrN9Nx> help me
[22:36] <akik> jedininjarob: there's a tool called xdotool which you can use to simulate x11 events. maybe that could be used
[22:37] <jedininjarob> hmmm ok
[22:37] <jedininjarob> seems so simple
[22:37] <jedininjarob> wounder whys it hard
[22:37] <jedininjarob> ill look into the xdotool thanks akik
[22:39] <thecheshirecat> no differences with 2015
[22:39] <officialdellacry> Hello, I'm trying to get steam running on Ubuntu 15.04 and i was here before and was told to install nvidia-current and restart.
[22:39] <officialdellacry> I tried doing so
[22:39] <officialdellacry> It worked. Steam started, but every time it started the machine hung completely.
[22:40] <akik> a big part of learning is trying out tools and what they can do
[22:40] <officialdellacry> I had to hard reboot every time.
[22:40] <Jordan_U> thecheshirecat: What is the output of "cat /proc/cmdline"?
[22:40] <Aliciana> hey
[22:42] <meisth0th> hello
[22:43] <meisth0th> i'm trying to make a deb package with dpkg-deb. the application i am trying to package is a daemon. and i don't understand how can i build package to work with both upstart and systemd. is there a documentation on this?
[22:44] <thecheshirecat> Jordan_U: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-18-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=744fee67-2646-41cd-946e-f86f4f401a97 ro "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[22:45] <jedininjarob> what about putting window focus on gedit and from the command line running a keyboard script that will simulate the cntrl-S and cntrl-Q?
[22:47] <OerHeks> meisth0th, for a start, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers and maybe this channel can be a help #ubuntu-packaging
[22:48] <Jordan_U> thecheshirecat: That looks correct. Not sure what to try next.
[22:48] <officialdellacry> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 15.04 and trying to get Steam to start but the system hangs everytime i start it.
[22:48] <thecheshirecat> i'll stop here today
[22:48] <thecheshirecat> maybe i'll come back tomorrow to go on
[22:49] <cado> Anyone seen networking failures related to dynamic names for ethernet interfaces when switching from headed to headless ubuntu 15.10
[22:49] <akik> jedininjarob: did you even read the xdotool page? it is able to search for a window and select it. to call the xdotool script you can bind keys in your desktop environment's settings
[22:49] <thecheshirecat> thank you very much, especially TJ- and Jordan_U
[22:49] <jedininjarob> i am reading now
[22:49] <thecheshirecat> good bye everyone
[22:49] <Jordan_U> officialdellacry: Do you know if it's a kernel panic or just X crashing? Does your capslock key flash? Can you use alt+sysrq+k to kill X?
[22:50] <officialdellacry> No, Nothing works at all.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> officialdellacry: What happens when you try to use sysrq magic to cleanly unount and reboot?
[22:51] <officialdellacry> what is sysrq magic, what keys
[22:51] <OerHeks> cado, unlikely network interface name changes by enable/.disable monitor, there are changes when you upgrade http://askubuntu.com/questions/689070/network-interface-name-changes-after-update-to-15-10-udev-changes
[22:51] <daftykins> !reisub
[22:51] <cado> OerHeks I’m actually removing the video card
[22:52] <officialdellacry> let me reinstall steam and nvidia-current and try again, and will report back
[22:52] <cado> It was a fresh install directly of 15.10
[22:52] <Jordan_U> Is sysrq functionality endabled by default in Ubuntu?
[22:52] <Extreminador> guys how can i check what port's are being listen ?
[22:53] <asad_> Will my ubuntu system break if I install the latest kernel?
[22:53] <cado> The logs show it being called something different when i boot without video card
[22:53] <EriC^^> Extreminador: netstat -tuln
[22:53] <Jordan_U> asad_: What do you mean by "latest"? Install from where? Are you using any proprietary drivers?
[22:53] <Extreminador> thanks EriC^^
[22:53] <EriC^^> Extreminador: np
[22:54] <asad_> Jordan_U: I was going to follow this guide forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=131433
[22:56] <Jordan_U> asad_: Are you using Ubuntu or mint?
[22:56] <OerHeks> asad_, we know you are on mint, not ubuntu :-D
[22:56] <asad_> Jordan_U: I'm using ubuntu 14.04.03
[22:56] <asad_> What's the kernel's version in 15.10?
[22:57] <k1l> asad_: which kernel do you need?
[22:57] <akik> Jordan_U: look into /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf to see which sysrq options are enabled
[22:57] <asad_> k1l: 4.2.6 has support for my touchpad.
[22:57] <k1l> !mainline | asad_
[22:57] <asad_> k1l: the latest stable version.
[22:58] <k1l> asad_: you can try the mainline kernels. or you could see if you test the 16.04 alpha/beta
[22:59] <Extreminador> can you guys tell me the best ftp to use ?
[22:59] <k1l> Extreminador: sftp. its in ssh included already
[23:00] <Extreminador> was traying to configure the vsftpd but i can´t access it from other's computer's
[23:00] <Extreminador> yehh will try with that one...
[23:01] <Raccoon1400> is it a bad idea to add a windows install to grub manually? When I learned this I'd just go into menu.lst. Stuff I've read says now there are more automated utilities to do this, and that it could harm my computer editing the files?
[23:02] <cado> These wild network naming changes should probably be pulled and better tested before integration
[23:02] <Jordan_U> Raccoon1400: If your Windows installation isn't being detected and added automatically, there's probably something else wrong with it.
[23:02] <Raccoon1400> I liked the manual way before, it was efficient and hard to break your sytem as long as you had some idea what youare doing
[23:02] <k1l> Raccoon1400: menu.lst is old grub1. we have grub2 now
[23:02] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Raccoon1400
[23:02] <k1l> Raccoon1400: run "sudo update-grub" that should find your windows install already
[23:03] <Raccoon1400> Jordan_U: Windows install what not connected when I installed, it is on different drive
[23:03] <Raccoon1400> the other windows install was detected
[23:03] <vanderley> helo
[23:04] <Raccoon1400> I'm setting up a new install for my dad. I want him to be able to boot between the new install on one drive, and the old install on the other drive until everything is transfered
[23:04] <daftykins> just finish it and get it done? :)
[23:04] <Raccoon1400> I installed ubuntu on the new drive as a backup/recovery tool
[23:04] <daftykins> interim solutions are a bit of a waste of effort
[23:04] <k1l> Raccoon1400: run my command. it will scan for installs
[23:04] <Jordan_U> Raccoon1400: Plug in the Windows drive, run "sudo update-grub".
[23:04] <asad_> What's the current version of the kernel in 15.10?
[23:04] <k1l> asad_: 4.2.0
[23:05] <asad_> k1l: exactly that?
[23:05] <k1l> yes
[23:05] <k1l> !info linux-image
[23:05] <k1l> !info linux-image-generic
[23:06] <OerHeks> looks like the same as in Mint 17.2 Rafaela
[23:06] <k1l> OerHeks: depends on what mint version you are :)
[23:07] <k1l> and what updates mint thinks you should get and what not.
[23:08] <asad_> k1l: If I install 16.04 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/, will it work?
[23:09] <k1l> asad_: yes it will work. but its in alpha stage yet. so it might not work full from one day to the next.
[23:09] <brum> hello!
[23:10] <brum> My problem is, Acpi Pcc Prob Failed
[23:10] <asad_> k1l: How do I upgrade my kernel ro 4.2.6?
[23:10] <brum> Yes
[23:10] <k1l> asad_: if its just about the kernel see mainline kernels
[23:10] <k1l> the bot already gave you the info and link
[23:11] <Bashing-om> brum: The kernel is probing ACPI, looking for the "Platforms communication channel" interface. This is a new ACPI interface and not much hardware currently supports it.
[23:12] <brum> Aff
[23:12] <brum> Drive Nvidia report error
[23:13] <daftykins> you have to give us errors if you want to know what to do with them
[23:14] <asad_> k1l: Do I have to first upgrade ubuntu to 15.10?
[23:14] <k1l> asad_: no
[23:15] <asad_> k1l: because there's 4.2.6-wily. so it doesn't matter?
[23:18] <asad_> k1l: can I install the kernel using apt-get ?
[23:18] <k1l> asad_: no
[23:18] <k1l> dpkg is the command
[23:20] <genii> !mainline | asad_
[23:21] <kosaq> how do i create a live usb squashfs and overlayfs with only dash, X and GFX driver pkgs?
[23:21] <kosaq> anyone have a script for this?
[23:22] <daftykins> kosaq: what are you trying to achieve?
[23:23] <kosaq> do i need anything else? like systemD or is it enough to get it booting?
[23:23] <daftykins> i refer you to my above enquiry :)
[23:24] <kosaq> daft: custom live usb start with minimum of pkgs
[23:24] <kosaq> isnt there anyone capable of creating a working script for this job?
[23:25] <daftykins> i doesn't see the point
[23:25] <daftykins> er, i don't*
[23:25] <k1l> kosaq: that is more a question for ##linux then for #ubuntu, right?
[23:26] <LambdaComplex> kosaq: i really don't think ubuntu is the right distro for that
[23:26] <LambdaComplex> kosaq: sounds more like something you'd wanna use gentoo or arch for tbh
[23:26] <k1l> ubuntu ships a minimal iso for those who would like to start small. there even is a netboot iso.
[23:27] <daftykins> i'd say it sounds more like something you shouldn't need to reinvent the wheel for
[23:27] <kosaq> the thing is im not a linux expert so i need to have it easy
[23:27] <k1l> kosaq: then use the minimal iso. add what you need to it.
[23:27] <kosaq> dafty so there can i find this kind of distro?
[23:28] <kosaq> iwe searched the hole net, after live linux with only Xorg = NO answer
[23:28] <daftykins> kosaq: if you want it easy, why don't you just create a live USB of ubuntu with persistence and install some packages... no point in pursuing this lightweight approach you have in mind.
[23:28] <daftykins> *whole
[23:29] <daftykins> i find that hard to believe given the number of bootable distros out there designed for certain tasks, but again - if we knew why you want this then it might help.
[23:30] * LambdaComplex stills says arch or gentoo
[23:30] <LambdaComplex> arch would be easier
[23:30] * SlidingHorn votes arch here, too....
[23:31] <LambdaComplex> just figure out the bare minimum packages you need
[23:31] <SlidingHorn> their documentation is pretty impeccable, too
[23:31] <kosaq> kill: can i run the minimum iso with try ubuntu menuentry? like only on squashfs/overlayfs or is it installed on the usb?
[23:31] <k1l> LambdaComplex: SlidingHorn you have seen the "i am not a linux expert"?
[23:31] <daftykins> they have not (:
[23:31] <SlidingHorn> that I didn't.....lol, sorry
[23:31] <LambdaComplex> ^
[23:32] <LambdaComplex> but this isn't exactly a beginner problem...so, oh well
[23:32] <kosaq> lamba: because the damn distro is at least 1 000 pkgs
[23:32] <LambdaComplex> kosaq: which?
[23:32] <zykotick9> kosaq: fyi, you _might_ find this page http://live.debian.net/ helpful, if you want to create a debian-based livecd? ymmv.
[23:33] <LambdaComplex> Heck, Arch's base group isn't even that big
[23:33] <LambdaComplex> Only 50 packages
[23:33] <kosaq> ok so no easy scripting to get it up and running ?
[23:34] <kosaq> lamda: that the minum iso right?
[23:35] <LambdaComplex> (or remove)
[23:35] <LambdaComplex> oops, i was scrolled up. my bad
[23:35] <LambdaComplex> kosaq: no, Arch Linux's base group contains 50 packages
[23:35] <LambdaComplex> Although you don't _need_ all of them
[23:35] <mcphail> kosaq: you do realise that having X without a window manager (at least) is fairly useless?
[23:35] <kosaq> the other thing is the kernel modules, its way to many of them
[23:36] <LambdaComplex> Don't need nano or vi or sed or which or gawk or bash.
[23:36] <LambdaComplex> I wouldn't wanna uninstall them, but you don't _need_ them
[23:36] <mcphail> kosaq: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Barebones?redirect=no might bring you closer to what you need
[23:37] <k1l> kosaq: no the minimal iso can only install.
[23:37] * zykotick9 notes vi is a posix command, so if your install doesn't have it - it's broken ;)
[23:37] <kosaq> hell i tink Arch Linux is the thing, but now i know how debian/ubuntu works
[23:37] <LambdaComplex> zykotick9: But the system _will_ boot without it :P
[23:37] <zykotick9> LambdaComplex: yes, boot a "broken" system ;)
[23:38] <kosaq> kll: damn why can i try it? sucks to install GRUB etc
[23:38] <mcphail> kosaq: and have a look at busybox instead of the gnu utilities
[23:38] <LambdaComplex> pacman -S neovim && echo 'alias "vi"="nvim"' >> ~/.bashrc
[23:38] <LambdaComplex> zykotick9: Good enough? :P
[23:38] <k1l> kosaq: well, good luck with that then as a linux beginner. but we can put the arch talk then into the arch channels or ##linux
[23:38] * zykotick9 also notes this is #ubuntu and arch isn't really on topic...
[23:41] <daftykins> yep it'd be great if all the non-ubuntu talk headed off to relevant channels :)
[23:42] <LambdaComplex> man, ubuntu is just a social construct
[23:42] <LambdaComplex> it's not even real, man
[23:42] <frank1e> anyone knows if there is some way to give some specific texts in terminal specific colors?
[23:42] <LambdaComplex> frank1e: tput?
[23:43] <frank1e> I am controlling my bitcoin wallets via terminal and it all looks boring and gives me anxiety lol
[23:43] <LambdaComplex> is it like, a shell script?
[23:43] <frank1e> LambdaComplex what is tput please, am not that familiar with terminal in general and everything
[23:43] <frank1e> LambdaComplex uh
[23:43] <frank1e> it is to be exact:
[23:43] <frank1e> bitcoindeamon
[23:44] <frank1e> the same like the bitcoin gui client (aka bitcoin core - the qt gui) but just in terminal
[23:44] <frank1e> hold on
[23:44] <frank1e> https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-reference#wallet-rpcs
[23:45] <frank1e> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoind#Wallet_Services
[23:45] <frank1e> am bad at explaining and also not familiar with customizing ubuntu or similar. especially terminal. but I need some more color going on in here. this could also help finding for example wallet adresses, balances etc more easy for me
[23:46] <LambdaComplex> are you asking about coloring specific parts of the output of a command?
[23:46] <Extreminador> is this tuturial is still right
[23:46] <Extreminador> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-and-configure-sftp-server-on-ubuntu-15-04-server.html
[23:46] <frank1e> yes somehow
[23:46] <frank1e> and also
[23:46] <frank1e> coloring specific things in general like
[23:47] <SlidingHorn> frank1e, try to keep your responses to as few lines as possible. Makes things easier to keep track of
[23:47] <frank1e> everything that stands in between a { and a }, where special custom colors like adresses/balances override these colors
[23:47] <frank1e> sorry
[23:47] <LambdaComplex> eh, that'd require either modifying the command itself (which may or may not be feasible) or making a custom script to format the output
[23:48] <LambdaComplex> which wouldn't be easy either
[23:48] <frank1e> yes, custom script to format what is printed in my terminal
[23:48] <LambdaComplex> well, the script would have to run the command, look at its output, format it accordingly, and then print it
[23:48] <frank1e> I remember having special color themes for php, css codes etc in text editors. thought something like this would be exist for ubuntu terminal
[23:54] <frank1e> LambdaComplex, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/solarized-must-have-color-paletter-for.html the screenshots I see there look perfect
[23:55] <frank1e> does that work for ubuntu trusty with my case of terminal usage to color things up a little?
[23:56] <LambdaComplex> frank1e: Is everything in your terminal currently a single color? O.o
[23:58] <frank1e> LambdaComplex, Yes, I use elementaryOS which is based on Ubuntu Trusty if that helps.
[23:58] <daftykins> !elementary
[23:58] <daftykins> if you guys want to talk it, please go to their channel
[23:58] <daftykins> we don't support it here
[23:58] <frank1e> (the helpchat makes it impossible to get help there, nobody helping)
[23:59] <frank1e> so I ask here, since this is basicly exactly the same as Ubuntu, just with a different optical style
[23:59] <tgm4883> frank1e: no, it's not
[23:59] <daftykins> no. elementary has its' own problems, such as a lack of community
[23:59] <tgm4883> lol
[23:59] <LambdaComplex> daftykins: I think he's noticed that part already :P
[23:59] <frank1e> tgm4883 well all terminal commands so far worked exactly as in ubuntu
[23:59] * LambdaComplex rolls his eyes
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[00:49] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • Ubuntu 14.04.3下pppoe无法正常获取ipv6地址 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474044 如题，原本PPPoE是获取不到ipv6地址的，修改/etc/ppp/options之后能获取到两个不同的Global地址，apt-get update会将ubuntu.com解析为v6地址但无法链接，浏览器也不能访问v6站点。p
[01:44] <onlylove> 土耳其这次真是闷声作大死
[01:55] <onlylove> test
[01:55] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 09:52
[02:07] <onlylove> IS赶紧在美国干一票
[02:43] <sennn> 有人嗎?
[02:49] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 16.04 • ubuntu16.04登陆闪退的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474046 前几天系统升级到16.04后出现了登陆闪退的情况，一直登陆就退出， 从.xsession-errors文件看到错误信息：service org.kde.haccessible none exists 从字面意思是org.kde.haccessible没有服务， 由于我用的xfce4界面，应
[03:35] <MangHuo> test
[03:35] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 11:33
[04:50] <yunfan> kandu: 现在cross的qq还能用不
[04:53] <huntxu> iMadper: https://detail.ju.taobao.com/home.htm?id=10000013632497&item_id=522564914532&ali_trackid=2:mm_25282911_3455987_13726438:1448427163_266_1833108150&upsid=894b8d300f6c2d8644feb6d0c90d2083&clk1=894b8d300f6c2d8644feb6d0c90d2083 這貨靠譜不
[04:53] <ubrl> huntxu: ⇪ 海尔MOOKA/模卡 U55A5 55英寸真4k无损解码芯片 LED智能网络平板液晶电视 无线wifi高清彩电-聚划算团购
[04:55] <mr-tan_> 有人吗
[04:55] <ubrl> mr-tan_:点点点. 12:52
[04:55] <yunfan> huntxu: 这种电视机要小心购买
[04:55] <mr-tan_> metasploit如何激活
[04:55] <yunfan> onlylove: selenium本来就用java开发啊
[04:55] <huntxu> yunfan: 家裏用的而已，能撐兩三年不壞就ok
[04:58] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 标点符号 : 上语文课,老师让同学说出都有哪些标点符号,同学们都争相回答起来...... 这时老师发现一个学生正在睡觉,就把他叫起来问:"同学们已经说出了大部分标点符号.有问号,句号,感叹号,分号......就差一个号了,你来补充!" 这个学生想也没想
[04:58] <^k^> ─> 就说:"还有泰坦尼克号!"
[04:59] <kandu> yunfan: 能
[05:01] <onlylove> yunfan: 也可以用python ruby 还有C#开发，你没看错，C#
[05:01] <onlylove> test
[05:01] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 12:58
[05:02] <yunfan> huntxu: 我之前买了个智能电视 半年没用 再开机就不行了 我估计应该是里面的flash坏了 这个太折腾了
[05:02] <yunfan> kandu: 你试试再说 那个多少钱来着
[05:02] <huntxu> yunfan: 啥牌子
[05:02] <yunfan> onlylove: 当然可以 他开放接口的
[05:02] <huntxu> yunfan: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/790765
[05:02] <yunfan> huntxu: 好像也是海尔 我去看下淘宝
[05:02] <ubrl> huntxu: ⇪ 5日0点开抢:MOOKA 模卡 U55A5 55英寸真4kLED智能网络平板液晶电视 3299元包邮_聚划算优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[05:03] <huntxu> yunfan: 3299還有4K，能用兩年夠本了
[05:03] <huntxu> onlylove: 京東上試過分期不？知道滿減同時分期怎麽算不
[05:04] <yunfan> huntxu: 海尔的 leader统帅
[05:04] <yunfan> huntxu: 我是觉得还不如专门买屏幕
[05:05] <huntxu> yunfan: 自己裝系統麽
[05:07] <yunfan> huntxu: 他现在根本没法开机自检 怎么装 得开盖吹下flash才行了
[05:10] <iMadper> huntxu: 哈?
[05:10] <iMadper> huntxu: 靠谱啊.
[05:11] <huntxu> iMadper: 你不要騙我啊，我書讀得少
[05:11] <iMadper> huntxu: 刚刚, 海尔自己的人说, 不靠谱.
[05:11] <huntxu> =.=
[05:11] <huntxu> iMadper: 買個大法拿白條分兩年
[05:11] <huntxu> iMadper: 怎麽樣
[05:11] <iMadper> huntxu: 靠谱.
[05:12] <iMadper> huntxu: 现在, 中端机型, 只有大法能买
[05:12] <huntxu> iMadper: 不知道白條靠不靠譜啊，沒用過
[05:12] <iMadper> huntxu: 靠谱啊
[05:12] <iMadper> huntxu: 特别好用
[05:12] <huntxu> iMadper: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/789567 這個
[05:12] <ubrl> huntxu: ⇪ SHARP 夏普 LCD-58U3A 58英寸 4K液晶电视 6799元包邮（7299-500）_京东优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[05:12] <iMadper> huntxu: 中端夏普别买.
[05:13] <huntxu> 這段時間慢6k減500，疊加白條，12期一期幾百塊
[05:15] <huntxu> iMadper: 大法在京東上沒啥挑的
[05:15] <iMadper> huntxu: 有啊.
[05:16] <huntxu> iMadper: 你別拿大帝都和我們這裏比啊
[05:16] <huntxu> 帝都有貨我們這沒啊
[05:16] <^k^> 新 Xubuntu & Lubuntu • Lubuntu安装wine1.7提示无法解决依赖关系 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474047 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install wine1.7 然后就有以下报错 wine1.7 : 依赖: wine1.7-i386 (= 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1) 但是它将不会被安装 E: 无法修正错误，因为您要求某
[05:16] <iMadper> huntxu: 哦....
[05:16] <iMadper> huntxu: http://item.jd.com/1805242.html#none 广州有货啊
[05:16] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 【索尼KD-65X8000C】索尼 （SONY）KD-65X8000C 65英寸4K超高清 安卓5.0系统智能液晶电视（黑色）【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东
[05:16] <huntxu> iMadper: 除了大法還有什麽可選，55到60
[05:16] <iMadper> huntxu: 老狗
[05:17] <huntxu> iMadper: 潮州沒有啊
[05:17] <yunfan> huntxu: 夏普能信？
[05:17] <iMadper> huntxu: ...
[05:17] <iMadper> huntxu: 你住潮州了啊?
[05:18] <iMadper> huntxu: 伐开心, jd的老狗机器, 卖这么贵
[05:18] <iMadper> huntxu: 京东作死
[05:19] <huntxu> iMadper: 沒有啊，回家呆著續通行証
[05:19] <iMadper> huntxu: http://item.jd.com/1631887.html 那就只有这个了
[05:19] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 【三星UA55JU50SW】三星（SAMSUNG）UA55JU50SW 55英寸 4K超高清智能电视 黑色【行情 报价 价格 评测】-京东 pp: 6399.00
[05:20] <iMadper> huntxu: 老狗死抱着ips不放, 还是三棒子好, 三棒子高端的能给你上pva的缩水货
[05:24] <kandu> yunfan: 我每周都用。多少钱。。忘了
[05:25] <kandu> yunfan: 要不买个 windows 装上算了。看微软的架势，是想学苹果，以后 os 版本都是免费升级的。
[05:25] <huntxu> iMadper: 中端三棒能接受？感覺還不如8號球員夏普
[05:25] <huntxu> iMadper: 無貨
[05:26] <iMadper> huntxu: 高端当然是sharp好, 但是中端的sharp只能跟低端的大法一样..
[05:26] <huntxu> 窮人家
[05:26] <huntxu> 的悲哀
[05:27] <iMadper> huntxu: http://www.chiphell.com/thread-1240198-1-1.html 看晒单
[05:27] <huntxu> iMadper: 我挑幾個有貨的問題 :/
[05:27] <ubrl> iMadper: ⇪ 取标题超时 execution expired
[05:28] <huntxu> 三棒這個又高清又3D還曲面
[05:28] <iMadper> huntxu: 是哇
[05:28] <iMadper> huntxu: 适合你.
[05:28] <yunfan> kandu: 我有几个win正版机器 不过win上没有 *nix环境让我不爽啊 水果还好点
[05:29] <huntxu> iMadper: 然而我爹比較關注能不能上網看連續劇
[05:29] <iMadper> huntxu: 其实都行...
[05:29] <iMadper> huntxu: u盘安装个电视猫
[05:29] <kandu> yunfan: 嗯，我也就当游戏机用。
[05:29] <yunfan> huntxu: 不要做梦智能电视了 光电掐着的 还是弄个大屏幕 然后一个700多的x86的htpc就好
[05:30] <yunfan> kandu: 随着steam的成功 以后估计也不需要上win玩游戏了
[05:31] <kandu> yunfan: steam 是成功，但 steam console 能不能成还说不定呢
[05:32] <kandu> yunfan: 星际争霸要是移植 linux 了, 那就删 windows 了
[05:34] <yunfan> kandu: 不是 steam成功了以后 现在大家都可以移植到linux上啊 因为主要的引擎都是跨平台的 要支持lin真没什么障碍
[05:35] <yunfan> kandu: 你看 辐射4发布以后 中国买家那么多 以后大游戏肯定都要考虑中国了 不像以前那样了
[05:36] <yunfan> kandu: 话说steam os允许跑命令行之类么
[05:40] <kandu> yunfan: 中国 linux 用户少啊。都是用 windwos 的. steam os 没试用过
[05:40] <kandu> yunfan: steam client 在 debian 上跑得蛮好
[05:43] <kandu> yunfan: 那个移植的坑还是很多的。以前入手了 witcher 2, 等了好几个月才勉强能玩，还有那么多游戏指明要求 nvidia 的卡
[05:44] <kandu> kandu: 我记得还有一个游戏，入手之后 linux 版本各种 bug, 等了快一年了才修得差不多
[05:45] <yunfan> kandu: 以后会好的 至少unity4以后都不存在指定显卡问题
[05:45] <kandu> yunfan: 还有那 torchlight linux 版没有头的，也是等了快一年才修好
[05:45] <kandu> yunfan: 还有那欧陆风云4，阴影问题，地图一拉近就整屏阴影
[05:46] <kandu> yunfan: 还有那文明5，音乐一直波动，也是修了好几个月呢。
[05:46] <kandu> yunfan: 以上都是我实际遇到的，没遇到的应该多了去了
[05:48] <yunfan> kandu: 你那都是自己开发的引擎吧
[05:49] <kandu> yunfan: 这倒没注意。
[05:49] <yunfan> kandu: 你最近在家干嘛
[05:50] <kandu> yunfan: 卖这个 http://smaji.org/serv/ds5/
[05:50] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Distributed Socks5 (ds5) — ds5 0.1 文档
[05:52] <yunfan> kandu: 哈哈 都不干正事了
[05:52] <kandu> yunfan: 哈哈，干正事有什么意思
[05:54] <kandu> yunfan: 不过干正事有钱啊。你要不介绍介绍，我想求个包养啊
[05:55] <yunfan> kandu: 没得介绍
[05:55] <kandu> yunfan: T.T
[05:55] <yunfan> kandu: 你干嘛不去杭州市区找
[05:56] <kandu> yunfan: 我最近休养中.
[05:56] <yunfan> kandu: 要不找牛牛姐 最近它要做大项目
[05:57] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[06:11] <onlylove> 必须git commit之后，eclipse才接受修改，这什么鬼啊
[06:11] <onlylove> 我改完再commit还不行啊
[06:19] <luckybyron> 我想问个问题：怎样才能是xfce的默认菜单字体不要使用仿宋而使用其他字体？如果1366*768的本本，是不是要该fontconfig？
[06:24] <yunfan> onlylove: 这很正常啊 他每次都从git HEAD上取内容 而不是从文件系统取而已
[06:25] <iMadper> onlylove: 听起来蛮正常的... 虽然我没用过这货...
[06:30] <onlylove__> iMadper: 怎么觉得commit像保存，push像提交
[06:32] <iMadper> onlylove: 毕竟你要考虑开发的时候不是在master分支上啊.
[06:34] <iMadper> onlylove: 在自己的分支上用commit当保存其实也没啥问题啊...
[06:40] <kandu> yunfan: 刚你说的不干正事，是觉得这东西没啥需求量还是不符用实际开发模式？
[06:41] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • nvidia settings无法切换为独显，求教！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474048 一直是intel（power saving mode）模式，无法切换成独显。 zz: xq530 — 2015-11-25 14:17
[06:57] <yunfan> kandu: 没啥需求量 发不了大财
[07:00] <onlylove_> yunfan: 它好像是按连接数计算时长，想想如果是bt这样的，也能赚不少
[07:01] <yunfan> onlylove_: 总归不是大生意
[07:01] <yunfan> 出门
[07:43] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[07:58] <onlylove__> 这时候出太阳，窗帘好大缝……
[08:00] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS • 屏蔽密码？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474049 ubuntu12.04 lts 1.live usb 默认可用密码只有2个： 1)root 2)ubuntu 对么？ 2.怎样屏蔽这2个密码。使本地，或远程用户，都不能使用？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-25 15:59
[08:41] <onlylove__> 我发现我今下午在用git花样作死
[08:49] <onlylove__> 苹果直营店偏技术售后……让我给苹果刷机还是拆苹果？
[08:59] <cherrot> iMadper, 难得实名登录啊 爱美的婆
[09:06] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 请教preseed.cfg配置问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474050 在使用PXE+Preseed网络安装Debian系列时， 安装时弹出一个配置确认的提示框。 除了这个提示框外，其他都可以自动。 我的preseed.cfg如下 ## locale d-i debian-installer/locale string zh_CN.UTF-8 ## language d-i debian
[09:06] <^k^> ─> -installer/language string zh ## d-i console-setup/ask_detect boolean false ## d-i keyboard-configuration/layoutcode …
[09:35] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 15.04 • 我下载了15.10 cd镜像，安装后，openssh链接不上 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474051 我下载了15.10 cd镜像，安装后，用puuty之类的工具链接openssh报错，说：密钥交换失败，没有兼容的加密程序 zz: looyo — 2015-11-25 17:35
[09:56] <huntxu> iMadper: 你在通州有房不
[09:56] <iMadper> huntxu: 期房, 还没盖完的算不算?
[09:56] <huntxu> iMadper: 那也賺了 :/
[10:19] <^k^> 新 软件推荐 • 开源直播软件obs-目前最好用的直播软件 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474053 Open Broadcaster Software -Free, open source software for live streaming and recording https://obsproject.com/download#linux OBS Multiplatform is available as a package for several Linux distributions, and can be compiled from source. Ubuntu
[10:19] <^k^> ─> 14.04/15.04+ 14.04: FFmpeg is required. If you do not have FFmpeg installed (if you're not sure, then you probably d …
[10:39] <yunfan> huntxu: 之前可是跌价跌得肉痛
[11:18] <iMadper> huntxu: 并没有...
[11:18] <iMadper> huntxu: 我的是政策房, 不能租和转售.
[11:18] <iMadper> huntxu: 只能说, 房子值钱了, 但是并没有什么卵用.
[11:30] <^k^> 新 新闻和通知 • “国产操作系统”“自主知识产权” http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474054 大家看到凡是新闻中含有：“国产操作系统”“自主知识产权”等字样的新闻是怎么个心情？ 如果国家主导的这些项目是这种态度的话。我可以说这个项目永远也不会“成功”的。 zz:
[11:30] <^k^> ─> canmei — 2015-11-25 19:30
[12:18] <luckybyron> 我提的那个问题用qtconfig或者qt5cf都没有用 我在/etc/fonts/conf.avail/65-nonlatin.conf中把点阵字体提前到宋体的前面才解决
[12:53] <^k^> 新 C/C++/Java • 字符串常量和字符型指针的转化问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474055 用g++编译时遇到如下问题： 报错内容： warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings] h_file = open_file_std(file1,"wb"); 这是我的原代码; ////////////// char *file1; FILE *h_file; strcpy(f
[12:53] <^k^> ─> ile1,"Hmatrix"); h_file = open_file_std(file1,"wb"); FILE *open_file_std( char *fname, char *mode) 我的Ubuntu版本 …
[13:02] <^k^> 新 C/C++/Java • warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 字符型指 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474058 报错内容：warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ 我用的是ubuntu14.04下的g++ 程序代码： char *file1; FILE *h_file; strcpy(file1,"Hmatrix"); h_file = open_file_std(file1,"wb"); #include "
[13:02] <^k^> ─> open.h" FILE *open_file_std ( char *fname,char *mode) { if (strcmp(fname,"-")==0) { switch (mode[0]) { case 'r': { re …
[13:12] <onlylove_> 今天快冻成冰雕了
[13:22] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[13:30] <onlylove_> Freebuilder: 你每次来，就会这俩字
[13:37] <Freebuilder> qbittorrent 经常死掉
[13:45] <onlylove_> 所以用transmission
[13:45] <Freebuilder> 用 transmission 硬盘太辛苦
[13:46] <Freebuilder> 我怕硬盘短命
[13:47] <onlylove_> qbitrorrent和transmission很大区别么
[13:47] <onlylove_> 你如果那样，还是用度娘离线吧，让度娘给你下好了，你用aria直接http好了
[13:47] <Freebuilder> 你都用用，注意观察就知道了
[13:48] <Freebuilder> 我用 transmission 用过一年多
[13:48] <Freebuilder> 觉得太傻逼了，又不是没内存给它用
[13:48] <onlylove_> 没啥好观察的，你真要害怕，下到shm里面
[13:49] <onlylove_> 或者用xware
[13:50] <Ueno_Otoko> 一直都用transmission
[13:50] <rabbitear> help me obeone canobi, you're my only hope
[13:51] <onlylove_> 你那边温度咋样，帝都这边快冻成冰棍了
[13:53] <rabbitear> as long as psyical stuff can be not a chemistery experiment
[14:23] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • geda 这点比 kicad 智能 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474059 1.png 拖，热点碰到热点就自动连好了。kicad 必须要手动连线，而且起码要一格的长度，所以没法画出这么紧凑的图。 zz: 建客 — 2015-11-25 22:23
[16:55] <koonhua> hi```
[16:55] <koonhua> 初次来到
[18:45] <ukari> 试下手机能不能发中文
[23:55] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 软件安装求救 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474060 本人小菜鸟一个，装个软件都不会，不得不求救，工作需要装一个软件 下了源码包解开后 里面有makefile文件，这个软件需要先装boost library, 但是我对软件安装说明上的一句话不太明白“therefore you will a
[23:55] <^k^> ─> lso need to download and install the boost library if you don't have it on your linux machine, and then edit the Make …
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[00:13] <lapisdecor_> hi I have this problem on ubuntu-sdk: E: Xephyr executable not found. Please install Xephyr
[00:13] <lapisdecor_> How do I solve this?
[00:15] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: is this when you try to run an app?
[00:16] <lapisdecor_> mcphail: yes
[00:17] <lapisdecor_> before that one I had the same problem it told me to install another something with 3 letters I can't remmember the name
[00:17] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: try clicking on the computer icon above the green arrow in the bottom left corner and changing the "run" setting away from the Autopilot one
[00:18] <mcphail> Then try running again
[00:20] <lapisdecor_> yay! it works :-)
[00:20] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: imho, this is a bug. Don't know if bzoltan would agree?
[00:20] <lapisdecor_> i choosed qmlscene
[00:20] <mcphail> yes
[00:21] <mcphail> non-autopilot should be default
[00:23] <lapisdecor_> how do I fix my design view? it says "Qml module does not contain information about components contained in plugins"
[00:24] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: design view doesn't work, and is unlikely to work in the futre
[00:24] <mcphail> *future
[00:24] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: it doesn't support custom components, and the Ubuntu UI is _made_ of custom components
[00:25] <lapisdecor_> How do I see a list of Ubuntu costum components?
[00:26] <mcphail> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/current/
[00:29] <lapisdecor_> Is there a way to use python to make an app? I tried pyside but it's another qt version...
[00:30] <lapisdecor_> It would be really awsome to be able to make apps with python, everybody is learning python these days
[00:30] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: you can use python to make the backend, but you really need qt or SDL to make a gui. Also, you'll have to bundle a lot of the python runtime in your app. It is possible, but not really for a beginner project
[00:32] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: worth making a few qml/qt apps, an html5 app or 2, then getting a feel for .click packaging before launching into a python app
[00:33] <lapisdecor_> I'm learning C++ right now, I'm already at polymorphism. I already made an app with html5 and javascript.
[00:34] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: good stuff. Make a couple of qt/qml apps with c++ backends and have a look at how click packages things. Also see https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/04/13/inner-workings-sdk/ which tells you a bit about the guts
[00:35] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: you can unroll a click package by running "dpkg-deb --extract packagename.click ."
[00:35] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: have a poke about in some packages and see how things are bundled
[00:41] <lapisdecor_> Ok I will, thank you very much mcphail. I just have another question: how do I make a circle with qml?
[00:44] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: not something I've done, but you'll probably find hints at https://qmlbook.github.io/
[00:45] <lapisdecor_> thanks! :-)
[00:46] <mcphail> lapisdecor_: enjoy!
[05:07] <bzoltan> mcphail: it is a bug in the python-autopilot package uses but does not depend on the xephyr. I know about it and about to fix it.
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:07] <mcphail> bzoltan: cheers!
[09:10] <rpadovani> hey guys :-) I'm using the ubuntu-sdk-ide on 14.04, and it's amazing \o/ My only doubt is: how can I add new qt packages to the desktop kit? Let's say I want to use bacon 2d, how can I install it? If I install as usual (apt-get in my system) it doesnt see it. So I think I have to edit the desktop kit, am I right?
[09:10] <rpadovani> If yes, how can I do it?
[09:11] <rpadovani> it's all under /usr/ubuntu-sdk-dev/ as far as I understand
[13:26] <JoeyChan> balloons: Hello, could u help to merge this ? I don't know why it is still there https://code.launchpad.net/~mrqtros/ubuntu-rssreader-app/uitk13-few-fixes/+merge/275625
[13:32] <ahayzen> JoeyChan, the prerequisite hasn't been merged/approved? https://code.launchpad.net/~qqworini/ubuntu-rssreader-app/uitk-1_3/+merge/275620
[13:33] <JoeyChan> Oh ? let me c, thx
[17:43] <snizzo> hey, how can I fix this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13504233/
[17:45] <snizzo> the problem is I am using debug for development as I'm actually developing...
[18:15] <DanChapman> snizzo: I got past that by selecting "Treat click review errors as warnings" in tools -> options -> ubuntu -> project defaults. It will then just pop up a dialog asking if you want to continue anyway
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[00:00] <sbeattie> sarnold: I turned it off for my apt-mirror, but I also fallback point to archive.ubuntu.com via apt-cacher-ng, and so pull the Translations files (and thus package descriptions) from there.
[00:01] <sarnold> sbeattie: ahhhh. that works.
[00:01] <sbeattie> that is, in my laptop's sources.list, I do the fall back thing. That way I also get packages that my mirror has not managed to download yet.
[00:26] <tdaitx> bdmurray, what hook exactly causes apport to run for eg. LP: #1451656 and LP: #1448331 ? I'm wondering if there is a way to collect additional information from update-alternatives when those are triggered...
[00:48] <mwhudson> how much space does an archive mirror take up? roughly?
[00:48] <mwhudson> mm i guess i'd want a sid mirror too really
[00:49] <lifeless> depends on the suites you're mirroring
[00:49] <lifeless> there's rough docs on the wiki for mirror operators IIRC
[00:52] <mwhudson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors says 777gb
[04:29] <pitti> Good morning
[04:53] <pitti> utlemming: ah, are http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/ being produced regularly now? nice!
[04:53] <pitti> utlemming: ppc64el images are still missing?
[05:08] <pitti> oops, I broke debhelper
[05:34] <pitti> *phew*, only iscsitarget and apport were affected, and these were both held back by tests
[07:17] <seb128> sru team, bdmurray, arges, is anything blocking the glib SRU to wily to be accepted? it's in the queue since 11-09 and fixes an important nautilus segfault issue, users start being annoyed and keep asking why it's taking so long to get reviewed
[07:18] <seb128> though it seems Laney did another upload with the same version
[07:18] <seb128> confusing :-/
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[07:20] <seb128> same with the libreoffice one, that was supposed to be a SRU landing around release time and it's sitting in the queue :-/
[07:20] <seb128> hey dholbach!
[07:21] <pitti> stgraber: with lxd, is there a way to relax the apparmor policies to allow mounting in the container? similar to what I do with lxc in https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/tree/lxc-slave-admin/setup-adt-lxc.commands#n49
[07:21] <pitti> stgraber: some autopkgtests rely on that
[07:21] <dholbach> hey seb128
[07:21] <pitti> stgraber: or is that a question of capabilities and not apparmor, and thus difficult in an unpriv container in principle?
[07:27] <stgraber> pitti: unpriv containers can't mount block devices, that's a kernel restriction but the ones you have listed are virtual filesystems and so should be fine
[07:28] <stgraber> pitti: you can append things to the generated per-container apparmor profile by setting the raw.apparmor configuration key against the container or in a profile which applies to the container
[07:29] <stgraber> pitti: though in your case, if things do work inside an unprivileged container, I'd suggest you just set raw.lxc=lxc.aa_profile=unconfined to turn off apparmor entirely. For unprivileged containers, apparmor isn't actually needed for security, it's mostly an extra safety net in case the kernel itself goes bad, for an adt environment, relying only on the kernel seems reasonable to me and will require less messing with apparmor configs.
[07:29] <pitti> stgraber: ah, bind mounts and virt fses should work?
[07:29] <pitti> stgraber: indeed, that sounds even better
[07:30] <pitti> stgraber: what I have in mind is to create an arm64 cloud instance, then create armhf lxd containers inside that and test there; so even if there's a bad test it can't get *that* far out
[07:30] <pitti> stgraber: and if we have someone uploading bad tests to ubuntu, we have a bigger problem anyway :)
[07:31] <stgraber> yup, and if someone manages to escape an unprivileged container even with apparmor turned off, we have a very serious kernel security bug on our hands anyway :)
[07:32] <pitti> $ lxc launch images:ubuntu/xenial/amd64 x1
[07:32] <pitti> root@x1:~# mount -t proc proc /p
[07:32] <pitti> mount: proc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[07:32] <pitti> mount: cannot mount proc read-only
[07:32] <stgraber> that's with raw.lxc: lxc.aa_profile=unconfined ?
[07:32] <pitti> [11077.685109] audit: type=1400 audit(1448436715.772:43): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mount" info="failed type match" error=-13 profile="lxd-x1_</var/lib/lxd>" name="/p/" pid=12078 comm="mount" fstype="proc" srcname="proc" flags="rw"
[07:32] <pitti> [11077.685189] audit: type=1400 audit(1448436715.772:44): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mount" info="failed type match" error=-13 profile="lxd-x1_</var/lib/lxd>" name="/p/" pid=12078 comm="mount" fstype="proc" srcname="proc" flags="ro"
[07:32] <pitti> ah ok, that's apparmor
[07:32] <stgraber> yup
[07:32] <pitti> stgraber: no, that was just testing the default ocnfig
[07:34] <pitti> stgraber: sorry, still trying to find the right lxc config setting; is that per-container or global? I tried
[07:34] <pitti> lxc config set raw.lxc=lxc.aa_profile=unconfined
[07:34] <pitti> lxc config set x1 raw.lxc=lxc.aa_profile=unconfined
[07:35] <stgraber> lxc config set CONTAINER raw.lxc lxc.aa_profiled=unconfined
[07:35] <stgraber> or to apply it to all containers using the default profile:
[07:35] <pitti> oh, so not an '=' but a space
[07:35] <stgraber> lxc profile set default raw.lxc lxc.aa_profile=unconfined
[07:35] <stgraber> also, typoed my first command, it's aa_profile, not aa_profiled :)
[07:36] <pitti> \o/ works -- merci !
[07:36] <pitti> stgraber: ah, so it sounds like I should create a new profile "autopkgtest", disable apparmor there, and create containers with that profile?
[07:37] <stgraber> yep. You can either make that profile include the stuff usually in the default profile, or you can have your containers use both profiles:
[07:37] <stgraber> lxc launch ubuntu blah -p default -p autopkgtest
[07:37] <pitti> bind mounts work too
[07:38] <stgraber> (note that anything using raw.* in the config is a bit of a hack, we'll hopefully soon have security.* knobs that will do that stuff for you without having to use raw.lxc ;))
[07:38] <pitti> stgraber: more generally, would you say that it's a good idea to move tests from lxc to lxd at this point, or still too early?
[07:38] <pitti> (from an upstream support perspective)
[07:39] <pitti> the killer feature why I'd like to add an lxd backend is that it seamlessly talks to remote containers
[07:39] <pitti> which lxc itself can't do, but that's what I need for moving armhf testing into scalingstack as long as that doesn't have native armhf support
[07:39] <Logan> zul: are you planning on merging in python-networkx?
[07:40] <pitti> and thus I need to do this nesting of cloud instance → container
[07:40] <stgraber> The more users we get the better. We're still very busy fixing various stuff in LXD but the core features are all there and working. If you're using the command line tool to drive LXD, things should be pretty stable, if you use the API or pylxd then you should expect to have to do minor changes every couple of upstream releases as we finalize the API.
[07:41] <pitti> stgraber: I'm actually limited to a CLI API in autopkgtest
[07:42] <stgraber> cool, so my only recommendation is to always make sure you run the same version of the client and the server, until we release 2.0 and have a clear commitment on API stability (February is our current plan)
[07:43] <pitti> stgraber: yes, that should be fine
[07:43] <pitti> stgraber: after "lxc profile create autopkgtest", how do I tell it to copy (i. e. "inherit from") default?
[07:44] <stgraber> I don't believe we've ever changed command names or arguments in a non-backward compatible way so far, but the occasional API fix will break older clients talking to newer server. Newer client talking to older servers is usually fine for a few releases as we add backward compat code when possible.
[07:45] <stgraber> pitti: profiles can't themselves inherit, so either you just copy/paste default in there (lxc profile show default => lxc profile edit autopkgtest) or you specify both when creating a container: lxc launch IMAGE CONTAINER -p default -p autopkgtest
[07:45] <pitti> stgraber: I'm not that concerned about API stability at this point; I guess I'll just run the same trusty PPA on the controller host and the arm64 instance that hosts the container, and I should be fine
[07:45] <stgraber> pitti: note that you don't even need a PPA, we keep trusty-backports updated with all xenial uploads
[07:45] <stgraber> oh, but no arm64
[07:45] <stgraber> yeah, use the PPA :)
[07:45] <pitti> $ lxc profile show default | lxc profile edit autopkgtest
[07:45] <pitti> error: Cannot change profile name
[07:46] <stgraber> oh yeah, that wasn't meant litteraly, you'd want to copy the devices section from default since that's the only thing we've got in there (eth0 config using lxcbr0)
[07:46] <pitti> I might have misunderstood cat profile.yml | lxc profile edit <profile> # read from profile.yml
[07:46] <pitti> and "lxc profile show default" looks YAMLish
[07:46] <stgraber> the show output does contain the profile name, so if piping one into the other, you'd have to sed the profile name
[07:47] <pitti> ah!
[07:47] <pitti> $ lxc profile show default | sed '/^name:/ s/default/autopkgtest/' | lxc profile edit autopkgtest
[07:47] <pitti> works
[07:47] <stgraber> yeah, I wonder if we can drop it from there actually, it's not useful to have in show since a) you passed it on the command line anyway b) you can't edit it from "lxc profile edit"
[07:49] <pitti> stgraber: cool, I now have the magic commands to create/inherit/amend the "autopkgtest" profile, build a container, and bind/proc mounts work
[07:49] <pitti> stgraber: cheers!
[07:49] <stgraber> yay!
[07:50] <stgraber> guess it's time for me to go to bed then :)
[07:53] <pitti> stgraber: bonne nuit
[09:02] <caribou> Hello, any Archive Admin in the room ?
[09:02] <caribou> I uploaded kdump-tools to debian where it works fine but it fails on install on Xenial
[09:02] <caribou> in a way that is rather annoying to remove (failing on configure)
[09:03] <pitti> how is that related to archive admin?
[09:06] <Laney> seb128: they are the same but the first one didn't have the right header to close the bugs, bdmurray wanted me to reupload it
[09:07] <seb128> Laney, ah ok, it means bdmurray did review the SRU and we might manage to get it approved now, good!
[09:08] <caribou> pitti: I thought that only AA could pull packages already in the archive
[09:09] <pitti> caribou: no, if it's in, it's in
[09:09] <caribou> pitti: ok
[09:09] <pitti> caribou: for really drastic cases IS could lobotomize it out, but this doesn't look like one
[09:10] <pitti> caribou: you could just upload a fix, no? this only affects the devel series
[09:10] <caribou> pitti: no, just a config script that errors out
[09:10] <caribou> pitti: that's what I'm working on
[09:10] <caribou> pitti: looks like debhelper is adding incomplete stuff
[09:10] <pitti> caribou: oh, the "missing fi"?
[09:10] <caribou> pitti: yep
[09:11] <pitti> caribou: I fixed that this morning in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debhelper/9.20151117ubuntu2
[09:11] <pitti> caribou: ah, I checked https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xenial-changes/2015-November/ for potentially affected packages
[09:11] <pitti> caribou: but as your's was a sync, I didn't catch that
[09:11] <caribou> pitti: np
[09:11] <pitti> caribou: so this will only need a no-change "build1" upload
[09:12] <caribou> pitti: sorry for the nOOb question, but what is the *correct* way to do this ?
[09:13] <pitti> caribou: first, what is the *correct* package name? kdump-tools does not exist
[09:13] <caribou> pitti: makedumpfile is the source package
[09:13] <pitti> oh, makedumpfile
[09:13] <pitti> caribou: pull-lp-source makedumpfile, then dch --rebuild "Rebuild against fixed debhelper", and build/upload
[09:14] <caribou> pitti: good, thanks. ok will do in a minute
[09:14] <pitti> caribou: i. e. the version should be 1:1.5.9-1build1 so that it keeps autosyncing (*not* -1ubuntu1 -- there are no real changes)
[09:15] <pitti> caribou: I can upload it for you if you want (I broke it after all)
[09:15] <caribou> pitti: ah, that's the catch
[09:15] <caribou> pitti: no, I need the experience
[09:15] <pitti> caribou: unless you want to do it for the learning experience
[09:16] <pitti> caribou: I actually have a mass rebuild script which makes this rather simple: rebuild-lib-transition "fixed debhelper" makedumpfile
[09:16] <pitti> :)
[09:16] <pitti> (I guess every core dev involved in doing library transitions has one by now)
[09:17] <caribou> pitti: I'd love to see the script if you don't mind. That's part of the core dev work I never had to do so far
[09:17] <pitti> come on, scp
[09:17] <pitti> caribou: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/scripts/rebuild-lib-transition
[09:17] <pitti> it's pretty stupid, but saves quite some typing if you have to upload 200 no-change rebuilds
[09:18] <caribou> pitti: got it
[09:18] <pitti> cjwatson: can we easily get a list of packages that got autosynced since yesterday evening?
[09:18] <caribou> pitti: so this is used when some library has changed & you need to rebuild all the packages that depends on it, right ?
[09:19] <pitti> caribou: correct; or in this case, against an updated build chain (debhelper, gcc, or what not)
[09:19] <caribou> pitti: ok, I'll remember that
[09:48] <caribou> pitti: uploaded
[10:19] <cjwatson> pitti: logs are in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/auto-sync/
[10:20] <cjwatson> pitti: or you could use lp.distributions['ubuntu'].main_archive.getPublishedSources(distro_series='/ubuntu/xenial', order_by_date=True) and walk through the collection until you hit some cut-off date, to see everything in one go
[10:27] <pitti> cjwatson: ah, thanks!
[10:27] <pitti> cjwatson: I already checked the manual uplaods, so I'll check http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/auto-sync/
[10:29] <mapreri> pitti: thanks! ♥
[10:29] <pitti> mapreri: I didn't do much, thanks to you for fixing!
[10:30] <cjwatson> pitti: fortunately one of the affected auto-sync runs did ~nothing - I'm assuming dinstall must have had a slight hiatus, everything seemed to be fine on our end
[10:30] <pitti> liblinear1 | 1.8+dfsg-5 | xenial | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
[10:30] <pitti> liblinear3 | 2.1.0+dfsg-1 | xenial-proposed | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
[10:30] <pitti> sorry, ECHANNEL
[10:36] <xnox> pitti, cjwatson, reverse sorting that by default in apache would be nice. also did not know this is public now \o/
[10:38] * xnox bookmarks /current.log pag
[10:38] * xnox bookmarks /current.log page
[10:50] <killall> sladen, thanks :)
[11:00] <pitti> caribou: ok, I went through the recent syncs, and these three packages are affected: xinetd, makedumpfile, knot
[11:01] <pitti> caribou: you said you were going to upload makedumpfile yourself? I'll kick the others then
[11:01] <pitti> ah, you did already
[11:01] <caribou> pitti: yep
[11:44] <TJ-> To save me a lot of searching, can anyone remember in which release our gcc library builds switched from a minimum CPU of 586 (pentium) to 686 (pentium2) ?
[12:00] <xnox> TJ-, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain should have the info
[14:03] * Chipaca reads http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/man-paid-friend-to-make-hoax-bomb-call-to-intel-to-avoid-work-1.2442051
[14:03] * Chipaca looks at xnox
[14:05] <xnox> Chipaca, i'm not a spokesperson for Intel =) you can get in touch with media representative in your country. And fyi, i'm based in the UK, not Ireland ;-)
[14:06] <Chipaca> xnox: i was going to ask if that was you :-D
[14:06] <Chipaca> xnox: but yeah, ireland
[15:01] <TJ-> I'm looking at the (lib)gcc-4.9 build logs for Wily. Compiler options all seem to be "-march=i486 -mtune=i686", cmov support (introduced in i686) in the assembler isn't found. Despite that, when I do, e.g., "objdump -S /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.9/libgcc.a | grep cmov | wc -l" ==> 1175 hits. I must be missing something obvious, but what is it?
[15:13] <mardy> seb128: do you have a minute? Got a question about patching a package which was uploaded to Debian (libgdata)
[15:13] <seb128> mardy, hey, sure
[15:14] <mardy> seb128: so, we'l like to have this bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758524 fixed in Ubuntu ASAP
[15:15] <mardy> seb128: I used debcheckout to get the source
[15:15] <seb128> mardy, I can backport that patch to Ubuntu and then sync over from Debian next time they do an update which includes that commit
[15:15] <mardy> seb128: but it's svn; I'm not sure how to proceed
[15:16] <mardy> seb128: if you could, that would be awesome
[15:16] <seb128> or try to see if Laney wants to commit/upload that to Debian then we sync over
[15:18] <Laney> could do
[15:18] <Laney> is it important to have RIGHT NOW or can wait for the release?
[15:18] <seb128> when is the release? ;-)
[15:18] <seb128> there was none since septembre
[15:18] <seb128> unsure how regular this cycle is
[15:19] <seb128> I guess "would be nice to not wait for a release"
[15:19] <Laney> presumably a short time after asking upstream to make one
[15:19] <seb128> or if you can pull triggers to get that to happen wfm
[15:19] <Laney> this patch isn't even acn yet though
[15:20] <seb128> Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgdata/+bug/1173926
[15:20] <seb128> seems like it's a piece of a bigger changeset
[15:21] <seb128> so would be nice to not delay too much so they can test/land the other bits
[15:21] <seb128> Laney, I can do a backport of the patch to xenial and we can sync over from Debian on next release
[15:22] <seb128> let's do that, it's probably simpler, Debian probably doesn't need the patch much since the reason we need it is for the unity lens
[15:22] <Laney> that's up to you, I would at least wait for it to be reviewed to include it in Debian
[15:22] <Laney> also the other branches aren't reviewed so they could presumably use a ppa package to verify them
[15:23] <seb128> right
[15:26] <seb128> Laney, k, let's wait a bit for it the be reviewed/merged and see if we can get a release, if that's not done in a few weeks I put a reminder to backport to change then
[15:27] <Laney> seb128: I can ping upstream to do a release once this is in
[15:28] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[15:28] <Laney> the first review came pretty fast last time
[15:28] <Laney> so doubt it will take long
[15:28] * Laney subscribes to bug
[16:55] <mck182__> hey guys, I was sent here to ask for possibly backporting this patch to 15.10/qt5.5: http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/src/corelib/kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp?id=6129be8a4ba976c42e51012ebaa9005eb402db80
[16:55] <mck182__> without this patch, user's QT_PLUGIN_PATH have no meaning
[16:56] <mck182__> and so it's hard to do custom development outside of úusr
[16:56] <mck182__> */usr
[16:57] <yofel> Mirv: ^
[18:11] <hallyn> arges: bug 1514690, what day are you likely to release that to wily-updates?
[18:13] <stgraber> hallyn: did you notice the autopkgtest regression with this upload?
[18:14] <hallyn> no
[18:14] <stgraber> hallyn: seems to be caused by tests/test_confinment.sh not being executable
[18:14] <stgraber> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[18:14] <stgraber> that lists all the current SRUs, how long they've in proposed for, state of bugs and autopkgtest state (on the left)
[18:14] <hallyn> why are the tests running?
[18:15] <stgraber> because we run autopkgtest for all uploads, including to stable releases
[18:15] <hallyn> yeah but we can't actually run lxcfs so shouldn't run the tests
[18:15] <stgraber> we sure can
[18:15] <stgraber> autopkgtest are run as root in a VM
[18:16] <hallyn> oh. well that's what i was asking before
[18:16] <stgraber> ah, I thought you were talking about build time
[18:16] <hallyn> ok well screw that then - i'll make add the other two bugs that need to be SRUd and re-push with that fixed, thx
[18:16] <stgraber> package builds happen in a chroot as an unpriv user so we can't run tests there. But tests defined as autopkgtest (debian/tests/) run as root in VMs after the package has been built by LP and before it's released to user
[18:17] <stgraber> hallyn: ok, let me know when it's in the queue, I'll review and let it in.
[18:17] <stgraber> hallyn: make sure to pass -v0.10-0ubuntu2.1 to debuild when you generate the changes file
[18:18] <stgraber> hallyn: that way the published changelog will contain both the changelog entries for the 0ubuntu2.2 and 0ubuntu2.3 uploads together which makes tracking bug numbers and stuff easier
[18:18] <hallyn> stgraber: oh if you're going to do that i'll keep the other two sru's out then
[18:18] <hallyn> but, cna i just chmod the test files and build the pkg and they'll be extracted with the right perms?
[18:19] <stgraber> I don't think so, unless a diff can contain the change of the executable flag
[18:19] <stgraber> though 0.12-0ubuntu5 in xenial passed the tests, so whatever was done there should work :)
[18:19] <stgraber> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/l/lxcfs/ for the overview
[18:20] <stgraber> pitti: hey, any chance we can get e-mail notifications from adt setup again? that'd be kinda nice so I don't have to poll or wait for you to ping me :)
[18:25] <hallyn> stgraber: before i push, are you ok with http://paste.ubuntu.com/13504619/ ?
[18:40] <stgraber> hallyn: that's a bit of a workaround, but sure
[18:41] <hallyn> yeah, it is
[19:05] <ximion> Laney: you might want to make use of the X-AppStream-Ignore flag when renaming .desktop files
[19:05] <ximion> I am thinking of gedit specifically here
[19:06] <ximion> (just saw the odd metadata issues page ^^)
[19:19] <Mirv> mck182__: yofel: thanks, made a note about it although feel free to file bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src too
[19:19] <Mirv> likely to the upcoming Qt 5.5 only or at least first
[19:21] <mck182__> Mirv: ok, can do
[19:28] <mck182__> Mirv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1519927
[19:32] <ben|> if a patch is not present in debian/patches/series is it still applied at any time during the build?
[19:33] <sarnold> ben|: there's a handful of different debian patch management systems; even though quilt is most common these days, or at least it feels that way to me, there are other systems that don't use the debian/patch/series..
[19:33] <ben___> sarnold, exactly what i needed to know, thanks
[19:33] <sarnold> ben___: checking build logs is perhaps the best way to find out..
[19:33] <sarnold> at least I think they all show which patches are applied, if any
[20:04] <lamont> I know we were using biosdevname for network devices at some point... under what conditions do we use them instead of ethN, for what series?
[21:04] <TJ-> lamont: I think it was new (not upgrade) installs of server. For systemd its systemd.link naming
[21:08] <attente> hello, i have finished packaging a project and am wondering if i would be able to upload it to the ubuntu archive
[21:11] <lamont> TJ-: ta
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[14:36] <eddiedean> Trying to install 14.04 & 15.10, same error when loading installer: 'Sorry, Ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error'. I click on show details and seems to have something to do with ubiquity. Error title: 'ubiquity crashed with TypeError in make_error_string(): sequence item 0: expected str instance, NoneType found'
[14:37] <eddiedean> I tried removing ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-ops
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[00:24] <bazhang> 's5 times been told offtopic
[00:24] <bazhang> and 5
[00:24] <bazhang> 6th times the charm!
[00:29] <k1l_> to explain that welshman that that is not mint support was like pulling teeth the last time already.
[00:30] <bazhang> not the wisdom teeth!
[14:38] <k1l_> first ;p
[14:38] <Myrtti> aw
[14:38] <Myrtti> well, you can finish it too, pretty sure it'll return
[14:40] <Pricey> Looks like you already Finnished it.
[14:40] <Myrtti> I've got moar mad skillz than I realise
[14:40] <k1l_> at least that is more fun than the test protocols i am doing at the moment :/
[14:40] <Myrtti> it's more fun than knitting a new handbag or making thank you-cards :-|
[14:41] <phunyguy> I am mucking with IPv6. Stab me.
[14:41] <k1l_> that ip was banned until yesterday :/
[23:41] <Gnjurac> a
[23:41] <Gnjurac> anyone here
[23:42] <Gnjurac> does minimal come with some partrition tool
[23:46] <genii> Gnjurac: This channel is not for Ubuntu support. Please try #ubuntu instead.
[23:48] <Gnjurac> genii: i cant i am baned on ubuntu but anwye got answer on ubuntu server
[23:48] <valorie> please part
[23:48] <valorie> this is not a support channel
[23:50] <Gnjurac> cya
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-arm
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[15:38] <genii> I've been working on getting Ubuntu onto some OMAP4470 based tablets here, Texas Instruments recommends using rootstock to create the filesystem, but I can't seem to find it anyplace ( according to them it's provided by qemu but I have qemu installed) and searching at packages.ubuntu.com produces no result. Was it superceded by some other method?
[15:39] <ogra_> rootstock is long dead ...
[15:39] <ogra_> but you can find the source on launchpad
[15:40] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock
[15:40] <ogra_> (i assume you will need to fix issues if you try to build something newer with it)
[15:41] <ogra_> there is a successor but i worte that mainly for touch, not for normal rootfs builds, so that wont help much
[15:41] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/project-rootstock-ng
[15:43] <genii> ogra_: Thanks for the fast reply. What is the preferred method then to accomplish something like what is described in the reply of https://e2e.ti.com/support/omap/f/849/t/317605
[15:44] <ogra_> i'd start from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current/
[15:44] <ogra_> that givey you a minimal rootfs
[15:44] <ogra_> *gives
[15:45] * genii investigates
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-cm
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[08:25] <septox> hi
[08:26] <septox> je suis a la recherche d'un bon registrar au cameroun pr un nom de domaine en .cm
[09:05] <septox> jay-m: hi
[12:07] <ariabbas> septox: -;) "bon" je ne sais pas :-D mais jusque la je fonctionne avec MTN
[12:49] <septox> ok
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-ar
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[19:59] <EtherNet> coo anda la gente?
[19:59] <EtherNet> como
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2015-11-25-#launchpad
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[11:59] <hanno> Hello. I have a few PPA related questions. Is this the right place?
[12:02] <xnox> depends on the question
[12:03] <hanno> My PPA is filling up, 22% use of 2GB: https://launchpad.net/~hzulla/+archive/ubuntu/sonic-pi/+packages
[12:03] <hanno> However, I cannot remove obsolete packages.
[12:03] <hanno> The package deletion only allows me to choose the current versions of the packages, not the outdated ones.
[12:04] <maxb> No, that's not the case, you just have to change one of the filter options
[12:05] <xnox> and deletion is not instant.
[12:05] <xnox> it's a cronned type of thing.
[12:05] <hanno> I did change the filter option.
[12:06] <xnox> hanno, try https://launchpad.net/~hzulla/+archive/ubuntu/sonic-pi/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=
[12:06] <xnox> the drop down to "Any status" rather than just published
[12:06] <hanno> Yes. Now if I click "delete packages" as the admin, the superseded packages aren't listed and thus cannot be deleted.
[12:06] <hanno> But maybe I just have to wait.
[12:07] <hanno> ...for the cron to kick in.
[12:07] <xnox> hanno, can you filter by status again, in the delete packages section?
[12:08] <xnox> url should end in +delete-packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter= e.g.
[12:08] <xnox> https://launchpad.net/~hzulla/+archive/ubuntu/sonic-pi/+delete-packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=
[12:08] <xnox> if it's not listed there, it's scheduled to be deleted.
[12:09] <hanno> https://launchpad.net/~hzulla/+archive/ubuntu/sonic-pi/+delete-packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=superseded&field.series_filter= comes up empty.
[12:09] <hanno> So I'll wait for deletion.
[12:09] <xnox> cool.
[12:14] <cjwatson> Right, deleted packages are garbage-collected daily. If you're only at 22% then you don't need to worry.
[12:17] <hanno> Thanks.
[12:18] <hanno> Is there a PPA-like service to build .deb for Debian?
[12:19] <hanno> I'd like to test these packages in my PPA on vanilla Debian, too.
[12:24] <hanno> Also, same for Raspbian.
[12:24] <cjwatson> Not operated by us, I'm afraid.
[12:25] <cjwatson> I don't know of one, which isn't to say it doesn't exist.
[15:12] <hanno> Another PPA question. I have a source tarball with valid debian/ rules. But I have to tell the specific name of the distribution (wily/vivid/trusty) in the changelog and cannot use one .changes file for all three?
[15:14] <cjwatson> hanno: If the exact same binaries will work on all three, then you can just upload to the oldest (trusty) and then copy the package with binaries forward to vivid and wily once everything's built
[15:15] <cjwatson> hanno: If that condition does not hold, then you're going to need different version numbers for each set of binaries, so the source package needs to differ anyway
[15:15] <cjwatson> (even if only in the first line of the changelog)
[15:18] <hanno> I don't know if the same binary works. But the same source package and build instructions work on all three.
[15:18] <cjwatson> Well, find out if the same binary works.
[15:19] <cjwatson> If your dependencies aren't too fast-moving then it may well.
[15:20] <cjwatson> Let's say your binary package is called "foo" and is version 1.0-1, built for amd64. That will land in pool/main/f/foo/foo_1.0-1_amd64.deb in the published archive tree. Only one version of that file can exist in a given archive - attempts to build it twice with the same package name, version, and architecture would result in a file name clash, so Launchpad forbids that.
[15:21] <cjwatson> So *if* you need to build it multiple times, it needs a distinct version number.
[15:22] <cjwatson> Otherwise, the target series in the changelog only specifies where it's initially uploaded to, and you can copy it around elsewhere (as long as it's either to a different archive, or you include binaries in the copy).
[15:27] <dobey> i've taken to just setting up recipe builds off trunk when i can, since a) they're automated b) ~14.04.1 ~12.04.1 etc get appended to version automatically c) always have latest version of whatever
[15:43] <hanno> Thanks.
[15:44] <hanno> Ok, so now I have a collection of patches for my .deb, let's call them 01 to 05. For i386 and amd64, I need all five of them. But for RPi, I only need the first four and not the fifth.
[15:45] <hanno> Can I specify that in some way or do I need to maintain two different versions of the debian/ directory?
[15:49] <dobey> patches should generally be applicable regarldess of the arch it is building on
[15:49] <cjwatson> hanno: While it's possible to do conditional patch application, it's a pain and makes it harder to use good patch management tools. I would very very very strongly recommend making the patches themselves have conditional behaviour if for some reason 01-04 actually break RPi.
[15:49] <dobey> a different set of patches is a different source
[15:49] <cjwatson> hanno: Take it from one who has been there and done that.
[15:50] <dobey> two
[15:50] <dobey> :)
[15:50] <hanno> The source is for an RPi program. Patch 05 removes RPi specific behaviour.
[15:50] <cjwatson> Er, right, I read your comment backwards, but basically the same statement holds.
[15:50] <cjwatson> Make patch 05 detect the platform instead.
[15:52] <dobey> Launchpad has no notion of what is and isn't an RPi though. armhf packages are just armhf packages
[15:52] <hanno> I'll see how I can do that.
[15:56] <dobey> best would be to just get the changes upstream
[15:57] <dobey> and RPi specific stuff should be runtime detected or something
[15:58] <hanno> thanks everyone.
[21:25] <retrojeff> I have a question about PPA's and ubuntu
[21:26] <retrojeff> so I just upgraded from 14.04 trusty to 16.04
[21:26] <retrojeff> is there a way to change all my PPA up to 16.04 quickly
[21:27] <retrojeff> I tried using sed to replace trusty with xenial
[21:27] <teward> retrojeff: 'change all my PPA' how?
[21:27] <retrojeff> now over 1/2 my PPA are 404
[21:27] <teward> retrojeff: all the PPAs you use need to support Xenial for it to reliably work, but you need #ubuntu+1, not here
[21:27] <cjwatson> Right, this is up to the PPA owners, you can't do it without their help.
[21:27] <teward> at least, for changing everything on your Xenial system to update
[21:27] <retrojeff> that channel is dead as a doornob
[21:28] <teward> retrojeff: well, you have two problems:
[21:28] <teward> (1) not every PPA supports Xenial, so
[21:28] <teward> (2a) the PPA owners need to update their PPAs to support Xenial, or
[21:28] <teward> (2b) you have to remove those PPAs from your repository list
[21:28] <cjwatson> Or you can continue to use the trusty packages.
[21:28] <teward> ^ that
[21:28] <retrojeff> can I force the non working PPA back to an earlier working one
[21:28] <teward> with potentially mixed results.
[21:28] <cjwatson> If they still work, which they may well do.
[21:28] <teward> right
[21:29] <cjwatson> You can replace "xenial" with "trusty" again for the ones that don't support xenial.
[21:29] <cjwatson> Or try wily or vivid, perhaps.
[21:29] <teward> retrojeff: edit the individual sources.list or sources.list.d files' entries as cjwatson just said
[21:29] <teward> though you may wish to NOT use Xenial just yet since it's still in development
[21:30] <teward> (if you care about stability, anyways)
[21:30] <retrojeff> is there a bash script that can step through all the PPA and check for Xenial and if not found set it to trusty
[21:30] <teward> probably a sed script, but it won't discern between ppas that work and those that don't
[21:30] <teward> s/sed script/sed command/
[21:30] <retrojeff> yes
[21:30] <retrojeff> I would need to check for a Xenial folder on the website
[21:30] <teward> retrojeff: that should be asked in #ubuntu+1 though i bet there's answers on the net for it xD
[21:30] <retrojeff> and if its missing report back false
[21:31] <dobey> perl -p -i -e "s/xenial/trusty/" foo.list
[21:31] <teward> thank you dobey
[21:31] <teward> retrojeff: erm, that's a lot more work
[21:31] <teward> i'd either edit them all, or manually edit the ones that're 404ing
[21:31] <cjwatson> After an "apt-get update" with partial failures, you can look in /var/lib/apt/lists/
[21:31] <teward> ^ that
[21:31] * teward goes away to poke the nginx packages in his PPA 'cause he thinks they froze up
[21:32] <cjwatson> It'll have ppa.launchpad.net_blah files, and you can compare against those
[21:32] <retrojeff> ty teward
[21:34] <teward> are the PPA uploaders working? i have 3 out of 6 recent uploads that've been sitting as 'waiting to publish' for a while with that green gear icon
[21:34] <teward> just sitting there
[21:35] <cjwatson> teward: seems to be happily chugging away, would be easier with an example
[21:35] <cjwatson> teward: but I just noticed nginx in the log tail
[21:35] <teward> cjwatson: yeah that just pushed in
[21:35] <teward> i blame either my end caching data
[21:35] <teward> or lag
[21:35] <teward> or a combination therein
[21:36] <teward> cjwatson: thanks for checking it though :)
[21:36] <teward> now that it built i can push it to the MASTER PPA
[21:36] <teward> yay resource-consuming data :P
[21:36] <teward> s/data/data processes/
[21:37] <teward> and i said 6 uploads earlier, meant 5, stupid keyboard
[21:37] <cjwatson> teward: The PPA publisher cycles somewhere around every 15 minutes, depending on load; it just has a lot to do
[21:37] <teward> makes sense
[21:37] <teward> :)
[21:38] <teward> although i discovered something nice about the PPAs...
[21:38] <cjwatson> (And isn't ideally efficiently written - needs to be converted to a diskless model, in our copious free time)
[21:38] <teward> they're not afflicted by the libuuid1 bug that afflicts my sbuild schroots
[22:25] <wxl> hey folks. there's no such thing as private branches on lp is there?
[22:58] <sergio-br2> hi
[22:58] <sergio-br2> g++-4.9 : Depends: gcc-4.9-base (= 4.9.3-5ubuntu1~14.04) but 4.9-20140406-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[22:58] <sergio-br2> .
[22:58] <sergio-br2> from here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227630573/buildlog.txt.gz
[22:59] <sergio-br2> from where this 4.9-20140406-0ubuntu1 come from?
[22:59] <sergio-br2> it's not in the repo
[23:00] <sergio-br2> I'm using this ppa as a dependence: https://code.launchpad.net/~dolphin-emu/+archive/ubuntu/gcc-for-dolphin/+packages
[23:07] <sergio-br2> uh, 4.9-20140406-0ubuntu1 is higher than 4.9.3-5ubuntu1~14.04 ?
[23:08] <tumbleweed> dpkg --compare-versions is your friend
[23:14] <sarnold> the error you pasted here included an = instead of the >= or > choices..
[23:15] <sergio-br2> i don't understand, 4.9-20140406-0ubuntu1 is less than 4.9.3-5ubuntu1~14.04, why it's waiting for the deps?
[23:16] <sergio-br2> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dolphin-emu/dolphin-emu/debian-master-trusty/view/head:/control
[23:16] <sergio-br2> do I need to put gcc-4.9 (>= 4.9.3) in the control?
[23:21] <sarnold> sergio-br2: looks like that version may be available from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test but you'd have to ask the gcc-for-dophin owner why that specific version of gcc, and if there's something about the version inthe ppa that's different from the ubuntu-toolchain ppa..
[23:22] <sergio-br2> gcc-for-dolphin is mine
[23:22] <sarnold> oh :)
[23:22] <sergio-br2> I pick that package from the ubuntu-toolchain
[23:23] <sergio-br2> I pick from ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test
[23:23] <sergio-br2> I just re-built it
[23:24] <sergio-br2> I need this version 4.9 because dolphin don't compile with 4.8
[23:26] <sergio-br2> seems launchpad is being a little dumb with this dep
[23:26] <sarnold> sergio-br2: this is a guess; try replacing gcc-4.9 and g++-4.9 in your control file with gcc-4.9 (= 4.9.3-5ubuntu1~14.04) and g++-4.9 (= 4.9.3-5ubuntu1~14.04)
[23:27] <sergio-br2> maybe gcc-4.9 (>= 4.9.3) ?
[23:28] <sarnold> might also work
[23:31] <sergio-br2> let's see
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2015-11-25-#kubuntu
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[00:00] <clivejo> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Thermal+Monitor?content=170354
[03:13] <DDR> Hi everyone. I'm writing a web page, but I keep crashing linux when I uncomment this one line. Where should I report that?
[03:13] <DDR> Stuff like 'ring 0 hasn't responded in 22 seconds'
[03:14] <DDR> Works on firefox and chrome. I feel I shouldn't link in IRC, though. :p
[05:49] <Flux_> hi, does Kubuntu 15.10 already has kernel 4.3?
[11:05] <c0upe> h1 everybody!
[11:07] <c0upe> How to install dropbox correctly on Kubuntu 15.10; it doesn't work... can't find the dropbox icon, moreover kfilebox can't help me
[11:07] <c0upe> thanks
[11:22] <hateball> isnt dropbox one of those legacy apps that doesnt have a tray icon in modern plasma
[11:22] <hateball> yep
[11:23] <hateball> c0upe: https://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/201908279-Systray-icon-not-showing-in-KDE-Plasma-5-2
[11:38] <jubo2> Hiya and thanks for the awesomest Desktop OS Kubuntu15.10 GNU/Linukka
[11:39] <jubo2> I think I just made my life harder
[11:40] <jubo2> I accidentally actually 'sudo rm -rf /home/' when I was meaning to write 'sudo rm -rf home/'
[11:40] <jubo2> and kling-klang alert bells didn't ring when it said it gonna be neverminding about lost+found
[11:41] <jubo2> well
[11:41] <jubo2> nothing that isn't on other systems was in that /home
[11:42] <jubo2> but if someone knows this is actually the system that can stay on irc for hours and hours instead of getting "CPU critical hot"-peak reading
[11:43] <jubo2> I guess I'd be looking for "How to undelete 'sudo rm -rf'-ed directories on GNU/Linukka?"
[11:44] <hateball> !undelete
[11:45] <hateball> shut down your machine if it isnt, liveboot and run testdisk or similar on it
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:43] <jubo2> hateball: nah. I'm uploading from another machine and downloaded necessary dirs onto place here
[12:43] <jubo2> Hiya BluesKaj
[12:44] <BluesKaj> hey jubo2
[12:44] <jubo2> I actually managed to accidentally 'sudo rm -rf /home' today lol
[12:45] <jubo2> Should not do this stuff before 2nd mug of coffee
[12:45] <jubo2> nothing of value was lost
[12:45] <jubo2> the home had been recreated from .tar.gz:s of dirs in homedir just like a few weeks ago
[12:48] <jubo2> I already expanded .kde and .local from the other machine
[12:48] <jubo2> I hope this fixes my irc colors with restart
[12:49] <jubo2> This black type on white background just ain't makin' it feel like irc
[13:23] <jubo2> uhh..
[13:23] <jubo2> grub rescue>
[13:23] <jubo2> again
[13:23] <clivejo> eakk
[13:23] <jubo2> Removed unused filled up 40GB from 120GB SSD
[13:23] <hateball> I'm not sure what you're doing to your installs
[13:23] <jubo2> and expanded the NTFS to fill the whole disk
[13:24] <jubo2> hateball: That one machine has hardware issues, prlly heating sensor is broken
[13:24] <jubo2> or something is seriously wrong with the Volt/Amp control
[13:25] <jubo2> I need to rebuild grub config
[13:25] <jubo2> I promis I save it to ~/Documents/commands/commands.txt this time
[13:26] <jubo2> This netbook will not go down every 20 minutes
[13:26] <jubo2> and got mi relevant home dir dirs here
[13:26] <jubo2> I try to search engine
[13:30] <jubo2> I'm not sure where the grub be located
[13:30] <jubo2> I removed the Linux SWAP and the /-partition
[13:30] <jubo2> and grew the NTFS disk to fill whole station
[13:30] <jubo2> I now in LiveCD Kubuntu
[13:32] <jubo2> Uhh..
[13:33] <jubo2> I download the Windows7.iso and use that to fix the booting
[13:33] <jubo2> there is this 20MB partition iirc in the start of the disk
[13:33] <jubo2> so I could mount... uhh that disk and fix grub
[13:34] <jubo2> that or I let Windows7.iso write over it
[13:34] <jubo2> I gather these are my options
[13:37] <jubo2> msft download complains it is an OEM
[13:37] <jubo2> and that bordel we call http://lenovorecovery.com has sent me the wrong disks 3 times
[13:38] <jubo2> prrly coz some think he saw something like people on the internets and blamed me
[13:39] <jubo2> well.. I need grub to detect there is 1 NTFS partition on the disk and it is bootable and it should just boot it
[13:39] <jubo2> can I do that from grub-shell
[13:39] <jubo2> or what should I do?
[13:42] <jubo2> I try the wrong recovery disks
[13:44] <jubo2> nope. don't want it to wipe out the existing windows
[13:44] <jubo2> as the lenovorecovery.com is hellbent on sending me wrong disks to keep my circumstances precarious
[14:01] <jubo2> I see if I can make a rescue disk with the different Windows7 version I have on this hard drive
[14:31] <ejay> Hi all. Is kidle_inject part of linux kernel or plasma5?
[14:33] <jubo2> found solution: installed lilo
[14:37] <SomberLuxray> hey so im trying to install kubuntu and when I get to wireless I hit continue and it is just hanging there
[14:40] <SomberLuxray> and now its frozen lol
[14:40] <hazamonzo> So what happened to the Kubuntu (plasma) pastebin widget?
[14:41] <hazamonzo> Was pretty sueful for quicklyy pasting code or images online
[14:41] <hazamonzo> *useful
[14:47] <soee> hazamonzo: probably not ported to Plasma 5
[14:48] <hazamonzo> soee: Aww shame :(
[15:19] <jubo2> I installed a temp gauge for Windows7
[15:19] <jubo2> under low load the CPU does not overheat
[15:19] <jubo2> but in Kubuntu it always overheats, stress or no stress
[15:19] <jubo2> The chip is Arrandale 1st gen i5
[15:20] <jubo2> the Windows temp gadget shows the current CPU Frequency and I see it runs ~ 1400MHz most of the time
[15:20] <jubo2> I am guessing there is some voltage control or frequency control not working with Kubuntu
[15:25] <lordievader> How about a dusty fan?
[15:25] <lordievader> Or a broken fan.
[15:50] <ipso> I recently upgraded to Kubuntu 15.10, from 15.04 and now when I go into Korganizer and go to Settings -> Configure Date and Time, it says: "Could not start control module for date and time format", and the only timezone I have available in Korganizer is "UTC" (twice) and "Floating", so all my event times are incorrect. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[15:51] <BluesKaj_> ipso, in the terminal run, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:52] <ipso> BluesKaj_, did that, and restarted korganizer, no change.
[15:53] <ipso> When I run: kcmshell4 --list, it doesn't show kcm_clock, which is my understanding what the date/time control module is called...
[15:55] <BluesKaj_> ipso, which kubuntu/plasma ?
[15:55] <skirim> hi
[15:55] <ipso> BluesKaj_, plasma-framework 5.15.0-0ubuntu1
[15:56] <ipso> BluesKaj_, Kubuntu 15.10
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> ipso, seems the the kcmshell hasn't been integrated with plasma 5 yet, and 4 doesn't work here either
[17:09] <paul__> KDE Frameworks 5.15.0
[17:09] <paul__> Qt 5.4.2 (built against 5.4.2)
[17:09] <paul__> The xcb windowing system
[17:09] <paul__> oops
[17:10] <paul__> Oh, waeel KDE is stuck on the gtk theme and I am unable to change it to anything else other than changing the gtk theme.
[17:12] <paul__> I went so far as to delete the .config and .kde folders and still the the me is stuck on the gtk meta theme.
[17:47] <thesola10> testing out Quassel IRC
[18:27] <jubo2> It would seem that Windows7 knows how to clock-down the CPU to stop it from overheating but Kubuntu7 doesn't
[18:30] <jubo2> On Windows7 the CPU core temps are like 65-70C which seems acceptable
[18:30] <jubo2> On Kubuntu the temps just go to high-nineties and then the system shuts itself down
[18:31] <jubo2> There must be some program I can install that will help the CPU stay cool
[18:49] <jubo2> How do I get to the Widgets?
[18:59] <osama> Hi
[19:21] <jubo2> ok.. finally found a widget that displays CPU speed dynamically
[19:21] <jubo2> gonna boot that overheating system to Kubuntu soon and see what's burning up the chip
[19:36] <jubo2> aaagggghh.. Cannot add widgets to the panel
[19:37] <jubo2> I just want to see why with GNU/Linukka the system grossly overheats and gives wildly fluxing temperature values
[19:39] <jubo2> now I got the widget to install
[19:39] <jubo2> after rebooting
[19:41] <jubo2> seems to vary between 2-2.5GHz
[19:42] <jubo2> the temperature sensor must be broken
[19:42] <jubo2> wil 20C flux
[19:42] <jubo2> *wild
[19:43] <jubo2> I should prlly just try to turn off the shut-down-on-overheating
[19:50] <jubo2> I'm looking at the temperature printout on this other machine and it fluxes only few centigrade
[19:50] <jubo2> It doesn't make sense that temp can go up and down 15-20 degrees in just a few moments
[19:53] <jubo2> in Windows the clock rate is lower by 25% and temps vary only few degrees / s
[19:58] <jubo2> this is really annoying behaviour that something is giving these spikes in the temps when in GNU/Linukka and that causes the repeating shutdown
[20:20] <jubo2> My computer it seems would be best suited to grilling raclette cheeze
[20:21] <jubo2> When in Windows7 the frequency is around 1.5-2GHz and the temp is 65-70C
[20:21] <jubo2> When in Kubuntu the frequency is like 2-2.5GHz and the temp is something between 80-100C
[20:22] <jubo2> and when in Kubuntu the sensor sends really wildly varying data
[20:22] <jubo2> like 10-20C moves in a blink of an eye
[20:22] <jubo2> I'd really like to use Kubuntu
[20:23] <jubo2> but if it just keeps on shutting down because the stupid lying / broken sensor sends a random peak that hits the 105C limit
[20:28] <jubo2> how do I check a physical disk for errors that end up in error when trying to partition the disk?
[20:34] <jubo2> trying to create partitions on it fails with IOERROR
[20:42] <bprompt> !smartmontools | jubo2
[20:42] <bprompt> !smarttools | jubo2
[20:42] <bprompt> !smartools | jubo2
[20:42] <bprompt> hmmm
[20:43] <bprompt> shoot, bot is drawing a blank, as usual
[20:44] <bprompt> jubo2: do a S.M.A.R.T. check on the disk with "smarmontools", they're in the repositories
[20:44] * jubo2 gets his Phalanx CIWS
[20:44] <jubo2> bprompt: ok
[20:47] <jubo2> I installed it bprompt but typing 'smartmontools' doesn't find it
[20:48] <jubo2> didn't see it in the start-menu either
[20:50] <bprompt> hmm
[20:50] <bprompt> jubo2: smartctl iirc.... try autocomplete "smart<tab>"
[20:50] <jubo2> ok
[20:53] <jubo2> "no errors logged" when running 'smartctl -a /dev/sdb'
[20:54] <bprompt> then /dev/sdb may be ok :)
[20:54] <bprompt> jubo2: what makes you think the hdd is bad anyway?
[20:55] <jubo2> coz Gparted will not partition it
[20:55] <jubo2> The details say just "IO error" when it tries to sync the disk
[20:56] <bprompt> and you're running kubuntu off /dev/sda?
[20:56] <jubo2> yes
[20:56] <bprompt> so hmmm... ok... toss /dev/sdb on the trash bin, no?
[20:56] <bprompt> :)
[20:57] <bprompt> s/on/in/
[20:57] <jubo2> yeah
[20:57] <jubo2> seems like a long time ago wasted 100€
[20:57] <bprompt> 100€ ? hmm is that a 1Tbs one?
[20:58] <jubo2> yes
[20:58] <jubo2> a long time ago
[20:58] <bprompt> how long ago anyway? 3years ago?
[20:58] <jubo2> I think I never got it to work properly
[20:58] <jubo2> something like that
[20:58] <bprompt> a long long, couldn't be that long, 1Tbs hdd aren't that old
[20:59] <bprompt> jubo2: got any data in it you'd like to salvage?
[20:59] <jubo2> nope
[21:00] <bprompt> Finish each day and be done with it. You have done what you could; some blunders and absurdities have crept in; forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day; you shall begin it serenely and with too high a spirit to be encumbered with your old nonsense. ~~ Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~
[21:00] <jubo2> ... and wake up to the same broken HW tomorrow
[21:00] <bprompt> hehe
[21:01] <bprompt> jubo2: nope, you won't, if you toss it in the trash bin :), you'll wake up with the working HW only, the non-working one will be in the trash
[21:02] <bprompt> jubo2: but hmmmm if smartmontools found nothing wrong.... it may not be bad anyway.... about gparted.... tried some other tools? like kde partition manager yet?
[21:02] <bprompt> or even parted
[21:02] <jubo2> nope
[21:02] <jubo2> how would that be different
[21:03] <jubo2> actually I'm confused.. KDE partition manager and Gparted have the same logo in the menu
[21:03] <jubo2> well.. maybe I try the KDE partition manager now
[21:03] <bprompt> jubo2: just in case is some old stale session files from gparted that was doing it
[21:04] <bprompt> I've had gparted, at times, choke on something, because.. the hdd was in use or a cancel something prematurely, so I rebooted, to start a fresh gparted session, and worked
[21:27] <keithzg> Huh, my officemate just upgraded to 15.10, and now Dolphin's file sort order is all wonky (it seems to ignore leading dots and capitalization differences for the sake of sorting).
[21:27] <keithzg> In fact, even `ls -la` seems affected, so this is probably some universal default set somewhere for LC_ALL or such?
[21:28] <keithzg> I can't seem to find anything to that effect in /etc, though.
[21:34] <keithzg> Also, what's the equivalent configuration option for SDDM to LightDM's xserver-allow-tcp=true or GDM's DisallowTCP=true ? (He needs to do X11 forwarding over a telnet connection, alas.)
[21:41] <keithzg> ...in fact, where in the world is the sddm.conf file now?
[21:41] * keithzg has so many questions!
[21:41] <keithzg> Aha, "On systems controlled by systemd, everything should work out of the box, since SDDM defaults to using systemd-logind for session management."
[21:47] <keithzg> And apparently the ability to change this was added in https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/325 . . . which, uhh, probably didn't make it into Wily . . . crap.
[21:54] <jubo2> Yeah.. This Kubuntu partition manager seems slightly more advanced ( in the GUI ) than Gparted
[21:56] <keithzg> jubo2: Yeah, it's progressed quite nicely over the years; I remember not too long ago (it seems, at least) that it still lacked a lot that GParted had so I'd always fire up GParted instead, these days it's generally the opposite.
[22:08] <keithzg> Looks like I can just strip "-nolisten tcp" out of the X11 server arguments list if I remove line 155 in src/daemon/XorgDisplayServer.cpp in the version that ships with Wily. Time for some apt-get source ;)
[22:25] <keithzg> Hmm. Still doesn't work.
[22:35] <keithzg> Well I'm stumped. We've recompiled SDDM to leave out "-nolisten tcp", we've removed it from /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, we've tried even just startx as root to get a session that way . . . no dice.
[23:04] <kaddi> hi guys, something broke my kubuntu today/yesterday
[23:05] <kaddi> was wondering if someone could help me trouble shoot
[23:05] <kaddi> basically the window manager seems to work, but I think plasma is freezing up badly..
[23:05] <kaddi> clock hasn't updated in 30min now and I can't open start menu, or any hot keys
[23:06] <kaddi> rebooting fixes it for like 5min and then it's back to the way it currently is
[23:06] <kaddi> i have /usr/bin/plasmashell --shut-up running using about 300MB of ram, not sure if that's normal
[23:08] <keithzg> Alright, well, got the `ls -la` issue fixed with a .profile line to define LANG=C.UTF-8 and that seems to fix Dolphin's sorting order too. Ignoring the telnet X11 issue for now, GNHS doesn't seem to work . . .
[23:08] <keithzg> Error 203 on new plasma themes, new mouse cursors, etc.
[23:09] <keithzg> GHNS, I guess I mean (huh, I always thought it was Get New Hot Stuff rather than Get Hot New Stuff).
[23:35] <keithzg> kaddi: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[23:35] <kaddi> 15.04
[23:36] <keithzg> kaddi: Do you have the backports PPA enabled?
[23:37] <kaddi> no, don't think
[23:37] <keithzg> It may well be worth the upgrade to 15.10, Plasma 5 has been bugfixed a fair bit since 15.04 came out. Myself at least I've noticed it's far more stable---although only once I dropped the fglrx drivers.
[23:38] <kaddi> plasmashell is v 5.2.2
[23:38] <kaddi> hmm, ok
[23:39] <keithzg> The version in 15.10 is 5.4.2, so two minor releases and some bugfix-only releases since then!
[23:39] <kaddi> yeah, but 15.04 should still be supported, no?
[23:39] <kaddi> i'm not sure i want to upgrade over a broken system.. that sounds like a bad idea >.>
[23:39] <keithzg> Well, a few things.
[23:40] <keithzg> Firstly, you can definitely try and debug this a bit more. Personally I'd suggest creating another user (thus a completely new profile and user configs without having to modify yours at all) and logging in as them and seeing if you get the same issues.
[23:41] <kaddi> yeah, fair point.. I should do that
[23:44] <kaddi> haha, well can't get the switching user screen to appear >.>
[23:54] <kaddi> seems to be a usre issue, test worked fine, but switching back was impossible
[23:54] <kaddi> cause everything froze
[23:54] <kaddi> rebooted, now my screen resolution has been reset to default.. gonna leave it at that for now to see if that will keep it from crashing
[23:54] <kaddi> :p
[23:56] <keithzg> kaddi: Interesting. Your main config files for plasma are all in ~/.config, so you might try backing those up and removing them to see what it is about your own user config that's crashing things versus the test user you created.
[23:56] <kaddi> yeah, i will because I can't change the resolution anymore.. i wonder if it's not actually related to the graphic drivers
[23:57] <keithzg> kaddi: I was going to mention, while 15.04 is still *arguably* supported, non-LTS *buntu releases only get 9 months of support anyways; 15.04's EOL is January!
[23:57] <kaddi> time sure does fly >.>
[23:57] <keithzg> Heh yup.
[23:57] <kaddi> yeah, I'll upgrade soon enough, need to find a free week-end, soooo january? :p
[23:59] <kaddi> ok, looks like the plasmahsell just froze up again.
[23:59] <kaddi> bbiab
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[03:27] <liuxg> when I am trying to config a snap, I get the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13499100/. what could be the reason for it?
[03:57] <liuxg> how to set a locale for my raspberry pi device. I get the error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13499347/
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[07:37] <dholbach> liuxg, looking at the webcam example right now
[07:37] <liuxg> dholbach, ok. thanks!
[07:39] <liuxg> dholbach, I just installed the latest snapcraft 0.5 version, and I got the error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13500846/
[07:40] <dholbach> liuxg, I don't see that happening here... the .snap build succeeds for me
[07:40] <dholbach> which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:41] <liuxg> dholbach, I am now on vivid, and I am using snapcraft 0.5
[07:41] <liuxg> dholbach, what is your snapcraft version?
[07:42] <dholbach> liuxg, I'm just using it from the git branch
[07:43] <liuxg> dholbach, liuxg@liuxg:~/snappy/examples$ snapcraft version snapcraft (0.5).Run "snapcraft help" to get started.
[07:43] <dholbach> ok
[07:43] <dholbach> that's the most recent
[07:44] <liuxg> dholbach, what is your version in your place? I just re-pulled the code, and I got the same error in my place.
[07:44] <dholbach> 481c79b7cee578e793baaf02bb733f1e14e1bd29 is the last commit
[07:47] <dholbach> liuxg, did you make modifications to the snapcraft.yaml in that directory?
[07:47] <liuxg> dholbach, how did you install your snapcraft? I used ./setup.py build and sudo ./setup.py install
[07:48] <dholbach> git clone <branch> and then I ran it with ../../bin/snapcraft
[07:48] <dholbach> I didn't install it locally, but used the version from the archive
[07:48] <liuxg> dholbach, no, I did not do any change. It complained "DEPRECATED: plugin names ending in -project are deprecated. Using python3 instead of python3-project". I changed it to python3, and I got the same error.
[07:49] <dholbach> that's a warning only, I'll submit a fix for that
[07:50] <liuxg> dholbach, yes, you are right. your way worked. I do not know how come I did not install it successfully?
[07:50] <dholbach> maybe send a mail to the mailing list about it?
[07:51] <liuxg> dholbach, yeah, I think it is a good idea
[07:52] <liuxg> dholbach, by the way, what is the use of the setup.py there in the project?
[07:53] <dholbach> it's used internally for building the package for the ppa and the archive
[07:54] <dholbach> liuxg, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/115/files for the warning you saw earlier
[07:56] <liuxg> dholbach, I got it. so for the project itself, it is no much use, right?
[07:56] <dholbach> I'm not sure I understand the question
[08:02] <liuxg> dholbach, what i mean is that setup.py in the example project is only for ppa use, not for building the snap purpose :)
[08:02] <dholbach> oh.... sorry
[08:03] <dholbach> in which example project?
[08:03] <dholbach> in the webcamui?
[08:03] <dholbach> there it's used to install the relevant file in the right places
[08:03] <dholbach> it's the project's "build system"
[08:06] <liuxg> dholbach, yes, it is in the webcam-webui project https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/blob/master/examples/webcam-webui/setup.py
[08:06] <liuxg> dholbach, do we need to use it for any purpose from a developer point of view?
[08:06] <dholbach> yep, it's used by 'snapcraft build'
[08:06] <dholbach> when it uses the python3 plugin
[08:07] <liuxg> dholbach, so for the snapcraft.yaml, it is of no use?
[08:07] <dholbach> it is of use
[08:07] <dholbach> python3 or python2 projects use setup.py
[08:07] <dholbach> the cmake plugin uses CMakeLists.txt
[08:07] <dholbach> etc
[08:07] <liuxg> dholbach, so, it is used there for the python3 plugin during the compile process?
[08:08] <dholbach> yes
[08:08] <dholbach> so whenever you use a certain plugin, your project needs to fulfil y certain set of requirements
[08:10] <liuxg> dholbach, I used to compile a python project, in fact, I did not use the setup.py, and it worked directly.
[08:10] <liuxg> dholbach, this is the one https://github.com/campbieil/mqtt-for-ubuntu-core
[08:12] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:36] <dholbach> liuxg, if you look at the snapcraft.yaml it uses the python3 plugin
[08:36] <dholbach> liuxg, and if you look at the source it's pulling in (https://git.eclipse.org/c/paho/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.python.git/tree/), there's a setup.py
[08:37] <zyga> morning
[08:38] <liuxg> dholbach, oh, thanks. I will check it. by the way, do you know how to use golang to do the config for snappy?
[08:38] <dholbach> golang and config are two separate things
[08:39] <dholbach> go is a plugin just like python3 or cmake or node or anything else - the way the project is built
[08:39] <dholbach> the config is a layer on top of that
[08:42] <liuxg> dholbach, I mean if you have any examples showing how to do the config in golang. Currently, all of the samples use python to do that.
[08:44] <liuxg> dholbach, webcam-webui is a good project. however, it involves too many technologies: golang, script, python, c. For developers, it is not easy to master all of these. I think it is good to stick to a narrow set,
[08:44] <dholbach> I don't know if there's an example for that
[08:45] <dholbach> but seriously, you can have config on top of any plugin you like, it's a separate thing
[08:45] <liuxg> dholbach, if is true. We can manually handle that as well. Still a programming way makes it easier.
[08:46] <dholbach> kind of like you can have services and binaries defined in a snap, no matter which plugin was used to build the part(s)
[08:49] <liuxg> dholbach, I think it is good to provide the solution in different method in addition to the python one in the example.
[08:50] <dholbach> right
[09:01] <liuxg> dholbach, I just sent an email to the snappy mailinglist for the build problem.
[09:01] <dholbach> ok cool
[09:02] <liuxg> dholbach, may I ask whether there is any golang solution to the config?
[09:02] <dholbach> I don't know
[09:23] <liuxg> dholbach, in the webcam-webui example, config.py is finally copied to the /usr/bin/config.py. how can this be done in the snapcraft.yaml? I do not see the copy there.
[09:24] <dholbach> liuxg, it's installed via setup.py - see the scripts definition in there?
[09:25] <liuxg> dholbach, yeah, I see config.py there. is this unique to the python?
[09:26] <dholbach> yes, in setup.py you can define modules, data files, scripts and other stuff
[09:26] <dholbach> scripts are automatically installed into usr/bin
[09:28] <liuxg> dholbach, it looks a new syntax to me anyway. I just take it for granted!
[09:28] <dholbach> in the python world it's very nice and easy to use
[09:30] <liuxg> dholbach, in fact, there is a bug for it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501234/
[09:30] <liuxg> dholbach, in the final installation, the config.py is not there even though it appears in the "snap" directory
[09:30] <dholbach> I don't understand
[09:31] <liuxg> dholbach, you just deploy the snap, and on the target, you do not find the config.py file there in the /usr/bin directory
[09:31] <dholbach> it is there
[09:31] <dholbach> aniel@daydream:~/dev/snappy/snapcraft/examples/webcam-webui$ dpkg -c webcam-webui_1_amd64.snap | grep bin/config.py
[09:31] <dholbach> -rwxrwxr-x root/root 246 2015-11-25 10:15 ./usr/bin/config.py
[09:31] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~/dev/snappy/snapcraft/examples/webcam-webui$
[09:34] <liuxg> dholbach, have you installed it onto KVM?
[09:34] <dholbach> no, this is just locally
[09:34] <dholbach> I ran the build and inspected the resulting snap file
[09:35] <liuxg> dholbach, strange. let me reinstall it.
[09:41] <liuxg> dholbach, sorry, I found it in the /usr/bin directory. However, when I ran th config, I got an error like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501276/
[09:45] <liuxg> dholbach, what doe exactly the config file look like? I cannot create one.
[09:46] <dholbach> can you file a bug about this?
[09:46] <dholbach> it looks like a bug
[09:46] <liuxg> dholbach, against snapcraft project? did you duplicate this in your place?
[09:46] <dholbach> I'm busy with something else right now, so I didn't try it locally yet
[09:47] <liuxg> dholbach, ok. I will file a bug for it.
[10:38] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Shopping Reminder Day! 😃
[11:02] <Chipaca> liuxg: to know the os version, 'snappy info' and 'snappy list' together would work
[11:03] <liuxg> Chipaca, interesting, lsb_release -a command works as well. Description: Ubuntu 15.04. so what is the right command to turn the autopilot off?
[11:04] <liuxg> Chipaca, snappy info and snappy list do not tell me the OS version.
[11:04] <Chipaca> liuxg: well then you mean something different than I understand by “OS version”
[11:05] <Chipaca> because `snappy info` tells me `ubuntu-core/rolling/edge`
[11:05] <liuxg> Chipaca, just now, you said if you ran on 15.04, ....
[11:05] <Chipaca> and `snappy list` tells me I'm on revision 259
[11:05] <liuxg> Chipaca, snappy config ubuntu-core | grep autoupdate does not return anything
[11:05] <Chipaca> liuxg: what does `snappy list` output
[11:06] <Chipaca> sorry
[11:06] <Chipaca> liuxg: snappy info
[11:06] <liuxg> Chipaca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501602/
[11:07] <Chipaca> liuxg: and snappy info?
[11:07] <liuxg> Chipaca, snappy info http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501606/
[11:07] <Chipaca> liuxg: first line of that snappy info output
[11:07] <Chipaca> liuxg: tells you you're on ubuntu-core/15.04/stable
[11:08] <Chipaca> liuxg: and snappy list tells me you're on revision 2 of 15.04/stable
[11:08] <liuxg> Chipaca, yes, I saw it. thanks. but snappy config ubuntu-core | grep autoupdate command does not tell me anything there.
[11:08] <Chipaca> liuxg: which also tells me you're something like 8 releases behind current
[11:09] <liuxg> Chipaca, so, I need to update my system?
[11:09] <Chipaca> liuxg: as I said, if you're on 15.04, s/autoupdate/autopilot/
[11:09] <Chipaca> liuxg: very yes
[11:09] <Chipaca> liuxg: and it sounds like it's been trying to do so for a while
[11:09] <Chipaca> liuxg: it's possible the update is failing and you're rolling back automatically, if so it'd be somewhat interesting to figure out why
[11:09] <liuxg> Chipaca, do you mean "s/autoupdate/autopilot/" command?
[11:10] <Chipaca> but only somehwat, because the raspberry pi was not officially supported on release 2
[11:10] <Chipaca> version 2
[11:10] <Chipaca> revision 2
[11:10] <Chipaca> whatever we call it
[11:10] * Chipaca has a headache
[11:10] <liuxg> Chipaca, yes, it keeps trying. I need to manually upgrade it :)
[11:10] <Chipaca> liuxg: so it's entirely possible you *can't* upgrade and need to reflash; ogra_ would know more
[11:11] <liuxg> Chipaca, I can flash it myself. that is not a problem.
[11:11] <Chipaca> liuxg: by s/autoupdate/autopilot/ i mean "replace autoupdate by autopilot in all the doc", because autoupdate is the new name; it used to be called autopilot
[11:12] <Chipaca> I'm not sure if we changed it in the latest 15.04, but I think not
[11:12] <liuxg> Chipaca, OK. I got it. thanks! I think it is good to update the doc.
[11:12] <Chipaca> in any case, if ... config | grep autoupdate doesn't print anything, you need to say autopilot instead
[11:12] <Chipaca> no, it's not good to update the doc
[11:12] <Chipaca> that doc is correct for rolling
[11:13] <Chipaca> it's also published for stable on the ubuntu website, which you can probably find easier than i
[11:13] <Chipaca> i just have the github link closer to hand
[11:14] <liuxg> Chipaca, in my place, both ways do not show anything there http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501627/
[11:15] <Chipaca> liuxg: update first
[11:15] <liuxg> Chipaca, OK
[11:15] <liuxg> Chipaca, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/autopilot/
[11:16] <Chipaca> yes, that's the *old* old doc
[11:16] <Chipaca> update, and let's check
[11:17] <liuxg> Chipaca, so, the doc needs to be updated, right?
[11:17] <Chipaca> that's what i meant by “update, and let's check”
[11:18] <Chipaca> i believe it does
[11:18] <Chipaca> but i've lost track a little
[11:18] <liuxg> Chipaca, my system refuses to update to the latest http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501646/
[11:19] <liuxg> Chipaca, the new version is there. it happened to me before.
[11:19] <liuxg> Chipaca, the latest version is there, but it does not use it.
[11:20] <Chipaca> ogra_: ping
[11:21] <ogra_> hey
[11:21] <liuxg> Chipaca, I use to report a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1508368
[11:21] <liuxg> Chipaca, it happened on the KVM long time ago.
[11:22] <Chipaca> ogra_: when is 15.04/stable revision 2 on rpi2 from? and should update work?
[11:22] <ogra_> Chipaca, only for subsequent images ...
[11:23] <Chipaca> liuxg: ^. Just reflash the rpi2 to something newer.
[11:24] <ogra_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-snappy/15.04/stable/latest/ has the official images
[11:37] <Guest552342> what is this?? https://uappexplorer.com/app/ubuntu-classic-armhf.mvo
[11:37] <ogra_> Guest552342, it installs a classic "deb" mode
[11:38] <ogra_> (in its very early stages still though, the implementation can still change)
[11:38] <Guest552342> ogra_, AWESOME! :D
[11:39] <Guest552342> oh it's only for armhf :\
[11:39] <Guest552342> i haz none, only x86
[11:39] <ogra_> (i.e. you will be able to install debs in a container that uses the snappy rootfs as base)
[11:40] <Guest552342> super nice!
[11:41] <Guest552342> can't wait to land on the phone :D
[11:41] <ogra_> (to make running snapcraft to create snappy packages easy)
[11:42] <ogra_> i'm not sure how much of snappy will actually land on the phone initially ...
[11:42] <ogra_> i think the plan is to only support the package format for now ... not an actual snappy install yet
[11:42] <Guest552342> i'll be happy with whatever it lands :D but when? :P
[11:42] <ogra_> in time for 16.04
[11:42] <Guest552342> soon then
[11:48] <mvo> Guest552342: ubuntu-classic.mvo is the version for amd64
[11:49] <mvo> Guest552342: but like ogra_ said, there will be some changes :)
[11:49] <ogra_> mvo, interestingly uappexplorer doesnt fine the non armhf version
[11:50] <ogra_> https://uappexplorer.com/apps?q=ubuntu-classic&sort=relevance&type=snappy
[11:50] <SaMnCo-desktop> Hello!
[11:50] <Guest552342> thanks mvo :D yep ogra_ i coudn't find the amd64 version in uappexplorer
[11:50] <ogra_> snappy searhc should find it though
[11:50] <SaMnCo-desktop> Not sure it's a snappy problem or a LXD problem, but I can't start a Trusty image on a rpi with Snappy
[11:50] <ogra_> might be a bug in uappexplorer
[11:50] <SaMnCo-desktop> log here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13501779/
[11:51] <SaMnCo-desktop> it used to work ok
[11:51] <ogra_> SaMnCo-desktop, hmm, without sudo ?
[11:51] <SaMnCo-desktop> (RaspberryPi2)ubuntu@samnco01:~$ sudo lxc start trusty
[11:51] <SaMnCo-desktop> error: cannot read config file: open /home/ubuntu/apps/lxd/0.21-1/.config/lxc/config.yml: permission denied
[11:52] <SaMnCo-desktop> ogra_- ^
[11:52] <ogra_> hmm
[11:53] <ogra_> i fear you have to wait for stgraber
[11:53] <SaMnCo-desktop> ogra_- I have this line: No such file or directory - failed to access to '/var/lib/apps/lxd/current//lxc', check it is present
[11:54] <SaMnCo-desktop> and ls /var/lib/apps/lxd/current doesn't exist
[11:54] <SaMnCo-desktop> should I create the symlink myself?
[11:54] <ogra_> hmm, it should, how old is your rpi image ?
[11:55] <SaMnCo-desktop> pretty new, a couple of weeks maybe?
[11:56] <ogra_> well, the link should be there with the last stable image and with rolling
[11:56] <ogra_> iirc we set it everywhere now
[11:56] <SaMnCo-desktop> ok forget about it, adding the link actually fixes the problem
[11:56] <ogra_> Chipaca, is that right ?
[11:57] <SaMnCo-desktop> ogra_- so my problem is fixed, but if there is further investigation you want to make, I am happy to help
[11:57] <ogra_> well, snappy should have created the link at package install time
[11:57] <ogra_> at least on a recent image
[11:58] <liuxg> Chipaca, ok.. thanks! I will do it
[12:06] <Chipaca> ogra_: i'm not sure we have the link on stable, let me check
[12:06] <Chipaca> ogra_: s/stable/15.04/
[12:06] <ogra_> i thought it was a requirement for the last release
[12:07] <ogra_> yeah, 15.04
[12:09] <Guest552342> :| when i ssh -p 8022 ubuntu@localhost WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
[12:09] <Guest552342> Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
[12:09] <Guest552342> It is also possible that a host key has just been changed.
[12:12] <Guest552342> ogra :( sudo snappy install curl.tetor
[12:12] <Guest552342> Installing curl.tetor
[12:12] <Guest552342> curl failed to install: Get https://public.apps.ubuntu.com/anon/download/tetor/curl.tetor/curl.tetor_0.1.10_amd64.snap: dial tcp: lookup public.apps.ubuntu.com: No address associated with hostname
[12:13] <ogra_> are you online at all ?
[12:13] <ogra_> doesnt look like it
[12:14] <Guest552342> hm.. right i'm offline but why
[12:15] <Guest552342> or am i? snappy search returns searches
[12:16] <Chipaca> Guest552342: wrt the 'remote host identification' warning, i have this in my ~/.ssh/config:
[12:16] <Chipaca> Guest552342: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13501861/
[12:17] <Chipaca> Guest552342: that avoids the warning, and makes “ssh kvm.snappy” work
[12:17] <Guest552342> thanks Chipaca :D i'll add that
[12:26] <ogra_> Chipaca, hmm, does snappy confi havwe a concept of existing but disabled config options ... i.e. similar to commented out options in config files like "# myvar = 'change to your liking'"
[12:27] <Guest552342> :'( so the search works but i can't install snaps. the search requires internet, right?
[12:28] * ogra_ isnt sure, it might for the first search but might cache subsequent ones
[12:30] <liuxg> Chipaca, after I install the new software, I find that the "apps" directory in the home does not exist
[12:31] <liuxg> Chipaca, where does the directory go?
[12:34] <Chipaca> ogra_: not really, why?
[12:34] <ogra_> Chipaca, well, i just notice that many config files have this so you save the admin from having to read through docs
[12:34] <Chipaca> liuxg: it goes nowhere; apps create it as needed
[12:35] <Guest552342> ogra_, out of the blue i managed to install hello-world o_O. do you know if webdm is preinstalled?
[12:35] <ogra_> depends
[12:35] <ogra_> it is in the official images
[12:35] <Chipaca> Guest552342: what error do you get when you try to install?
[12:35] <Guest552342> webdm failed to install: the given snap is already installed
[12:35] <ogra_> it wont be preinstalled if you use ubuntu-device-flash without the --install option for a self built image
[12:36] <ogra_> snappy list
[12:36] <ogra_> ;)
[12:36] <Guest552342> i am using wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-15.04-snappy-amd64-generic.img.xz and running the image in kvm
[12:37] <Guest552342> sudo snappy install curl.tetor
[12:37] <Guest552342> Installing curl.tetor
[12:37] <Guest552342> curl failed to install: snappy package not found
[12:38] <ogra_> try without the suffix
[12:38] <Guest552342> without tetor?
[12:38] <ogra_> yep
[12:38] <Guest552342> curl is the prefix right? :D
[12:38] <Guest552342> ok :d
[12:38] <Guest552342> same
[12:39] <Guest552342> Installing system-status.victor - ok (worked)
[12:39] <ogra_> hmm, weird
[12:40] <liuxg> Chipaca, you are right. I have to run the app once to get the directory. for example, I want to install sth in the docker. I need to know its path.
[12:40] <Guest552342> Installing snake.mectors - ok. so i do have internet connection :D and i can install stuff but not all the snaps work
[12:41] <liuxg> Chipaca, by the way, last time, you said that you got a way to compile for armhf on device. do you have the detailed instruction for it?
[12:41] <liuxg> Chipaca, if yes, I would like to blog it :)
[12:41] <ogra_> Guest552342, do you see it in a "snappy search *" call ?
[12:42] <Guest552342> curl.tetotr?
[12:42] <ogra_> yes
[12:42] <Guest552342> yep, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13501969/
[12:43] <Guest552342> curl.tetor 0.1.10 cURL
[12:43] <ogra_> very weird, then it should definitely be installable ...
[12:43] <ogra_> i wonder if there is an issue with the store
[12:43] <ogra_> beuno, ^^^ ?
[12:43] <Guest552342> mvo, sudo snappy install ubuntu-classic.mvo
[12:43] <Guest552342> Installing ubuntu-classic.mvo
[12:43] <Guest552342> ubuntu-classic failed to install: snappy package not found
[12:44] <beuno> hi!
[12:44] <ogra_> Guest552342, yeah, i get the same when trying on an amd64 stable image here
[12:45] <Guest552342> so it's popey 's fault
[12:45] <beuno> can you find it by searching?
[12:45] <Guest552342> noh
[12:45] <popey> obviously
[12:45] <ogra_> though my snappy search also only returns one single package
[12:45] <ogra_> (amd64)ogra@aleph2:~$ snappy search *
[12:45] <ogra_> Name Version Summary
[12:45] <ogra_> transmission.matiasb 2.84.2 Transmission
[12:45] <ogra_> thats all i get here
[12:45] <beuno> so that's why
[12:45] <beuno> lets try and figure out what's getting filtered out
[12:45] <ogra_> beuno, well, for me, but Guest552342 has a proper search output
[12:46] <ogra_> see the pastebin above
[12:46] <beuno> matiasb, hi! would channels be doing this? ^
[12:46] <ogra_> ah, i'm on an "edge" 15.04 image here
[12:46] <beuno> ah
[12:47] <ogra_> which is identical with the release
[12:47] <beuno> so the system is just looking at the edge channel by default
[12:47] <ogra_> just not from the stable channeöl
[12:47] <Guest552342> i'm on release
[12:47] <beuno> this is new behavior ogra_
[12:47] <matiasb> beuno, right, edge channel is empty atm
[12:47] <ogra_> right, so that explains the difference
[12:47] <beuno> yes
[12:47] <matiasb> I published transmission after the rollout yesterday
[12:47] <ogra_> but doesnt explain why Guest552342 cant install the packages
[12:47] <beuno> so now back to Guest552342's problem
[12:48] <beuno> we'd need a bit more debug information
[12:48] * matiasb reads backlog
[12:48] <beuno> maybe mvo, sergiusens or Chipaca can help
[12:48] <Guest552342> i can type stuff in that black window if you tell me what :d
[12:49] <Chipaca> beuno: matiasb: a heads-up to the mailing list would've been nice
[12:49] <ogra_> beuno, so is there a chance that we can make the stable snaps available to all edge channels if they dont have an "edge" equivalent ?
[12:49] <ogra_> thats pretty limiting otherwise
[12:50] <ogra_> (i tend to do development on an edge image, now i cant download any snaps )
[12:50] <beuno> ogra_, yes, just need to ship the edge image that defaults to stable channel for everything except the things you want on edge
[12:50] * Guest552342 brb. smoke
[12:50] <beuno> also, developers will be able to publish to edge soon
[12:50] <ogra_> yeah, i saw the option in the web UI
[12:50] <beuno> Chipaca, sorry about that, we've been coordinating with mvo instead
[12:51] <ogra_> but it would make sense to have edge packages of stable packages where devs didnt explicitly pick to publish in edge
[12:51] <beuno> that was the original proposal for channels
[12:51] <beuno> maybe we'll circle back to that
[12:52] <beuno> but the reality is I think the edge image should just pick the OS & Kernel from the edge channel
[12:52] <beuno> and default to stable for everything else
[12:52] <ogra_> i dont care abnout os and kernel
[12:52] <ogra_> yeah :)
[12:52] <beuno> right :)
[12:52] * ogra_ sighs ... another 300 mails to read
[12:53] <ogra_> off for a week and i return to 1200 mails in my inbox :(
[12:55] <Chipaca> liuxg: wrt the directory, i don't understand what you want/need/mean
[12:56] <beuno> Chipaca, any idea why Guest552342 would get back a search result and then not be able to install?
[12:56] <Chipaca> beuno: i don't know the error message he was getting
[12:57] <Chipaca> ogra_: btw, install $pkg/stable works
[12:58] <ogra_> (amd64)ogra@aleph2:~$ sudo snappy install ubuntu-classic.mvo/stable
[12:58] <ogra_> Installing ubuntu-classic.mvo/stable
[12:58] <ogra_> ubuntu-classic failed to install: snappy package not found
[12:58] <ogra_> not even if i drop mvo
[12:58] <Chipaca> i suspect that's been unpublished
[12:58] <Chipaca> check with mvo
[12:58] <davmor2> ogra_: You can have my inbox if you like I had 750 I only had one day off :)
[12:59] <ogra_> davmor2, well, you dont want to knwo about the subfolders :P
[13:00] <davmor2> ogra_: oh you mean in you inbox minus the subfolders
[13:00] <ogra_> yep :)
[13:00] <davmor2> ogra_: maybe you should break so much then people wouldn't have to blame you
[13:00] <ogra_> (amd64)ogra@aleph2:~$ sudo snappy install curl.tetor/stable
[13:00] <ogra_> Installing curl.tetor/stable
[13:00] <ogra_> ...curl 2015-11-25 0.1.10 tetor
[13:00] <ogra_> seems to work !
[13:00] <ogra_> Guest552342, ^^^
[13:01] <matiasb> Chipaca, ogra_, fwiw, checking in the store ubuntu-classic is still review pending, but ubuntu-classic-armhf is published
[13:01] <liuxg> Chipaca, I need to install a container inside the docker. without knowing it first, I do not know where to install. Anyway, after I run "docker version" once, it creates the directory for me.
[13:01] <ogra_> matiasb, yep ...
[13:01] <Chipaca> liuxg: what do you mean "where to install"?
[13:01] <ogra_> seesm to work with another package
[13:02] <liuxg> Chipaca, I can only install container inside sth like apps/docker/1.6.2.004/
[13:02] <Chipaca> liuxg: i don't understand
[13:03] <liuxg> Chipaca, the path apps/docker/1.6.2.004/ belongs to docker, and we cannot install a container in any other places.
[13:03] <beuno> Chipaca, if it were unpublished, it wouldnt show up in search results?
[13:04] <Chipaca> liuxg: what you said is true. I still don't understand the problem you're having.
[13:05] <ogra_> liuxg, install the owncloud snap and take a deep look at the start script it ships
[13:05] <ogra_> that should show you how to properly use docker
[13:05] <liuxg> Chipaca, if I do not run docker once, the path is not created, so should I create it manually?
[13:05] <ogra_> (i dont think it should use anything out of /var/lib/apps/docker...../ )
[13:06] <liuxg> ogra_, thanks! the app path is only created when it runs once.
[13:09] <Chipaca> liuxg: why do _you_ need to know that path?
[13:09] <amp_> Hi everyone. This is probably my first use of IRC, please excuse me if I've do something wrong here. I have a question...
[13:09] <Guest552342> ogra_, yep sudo snappy install curl.tetor/stable works :D
[13:09] <Guest552342> i had no idea i have to add /stable
[13:09] <ogra_> Guest552342, nobody had
[13:09] <Guest552342> :))
[13:09] * ogra_ blames beuno
[13:09] <beuno> Guest552342, it's new :)
[13:09] <ogra_> :P
[13:09] <beuno> channels go introduced yesterday
[13:09] <Chipaca> Guest552342: you shouldn't; it's a bug
[13:10] <Guest552342> oh :D
[13:10] <ogra_> beuno, FAVO "introduced"
[13:10] <ogra_> *FSVO
[13:10] <beuno> Guest552342, are you using the edge image?
[13:10] <ogra_> he uses stable
[13:10] <beuno> ok
[13:10] <amp_> I have flashed the new stable bbb image (15.04) to my BeagleBoneBlack using SD card. I can boot it, I can ssh into it from LAN, but the image cannot see the internet. 'snappy list -u' fails.
[13:10] <ogra_> from releases.u.c
[13:10] <Guest552342> yep stable
[13:10] <beuno> so there's a bug indeed
[13:10] <beuno> we'll figure out where
[13:11] <beuno> matiasb, am I correct that if no channel is passed, you should get back stable?
[13:11] <beuno> it seems true for search
[13:11] <beuno> maybe not true for package API calls?
[13:11] <ogra_> beuno, how do you figure out on which channel i am btw ? ...
[13:11] <ogra_> system-image will be gone soon
[13:11] <beuno> ogra_, not sure what the CLI exposes
[13:11] <amp_> What can I do to debug this problem?
[13:11] <matiasb> beuno, correct, CPI always assumes stable when no channel is specified
[13:11] <beuno> matiasb, seems true for search, but doesn't seem true for installing a package
[13:12] <ogra_> beuno, well, the only place i know is system-image-cli -i ... but that will be gone as soon as we swithc to all-snaps
[13:12] <beuno> right
[13:12] <beuno> ogra_, we'll have to find a place for it in the snappy CLI
[13:12] <ogra_> right
[13:13] <matiasb> beuno, hmm... installing a package shouldn't need a channel per-se, you get the package from a upload version URL; otoh, CPI package details, also assumes stable by default
[13:13] <beuno> k
[13:13] <beuno> we'll have to figure out what's going on then
[13:13] <beuno> why search is fine but install isn't
[13:14] <beuno> otp with the people who can find out
[13:14] <Chipaca> Guest552342: can you check whether it now works *without* /stable?
[13:14] <beuno> so will wait for that to be over :)
[13:15] <matiasb> ack, I can check if there is some code I can take a look at to review the involved API calls; in my head, nothing should have changed for stable installs
[13:15] <nessita> beuno, matiasb sorry if this is noise, but isn't snappy 16.04 using edge as default channel?
[13:15] <Guest552342> Chipaca, yep :d works now whothout /stable
[13:15] <Guest552342> yay
[13:16] <matiasb> nice
[13:16] <beuno> nessita, it depends what image you download
[13:16] <beuno> Chipaca, why would it have worked the second time?
[13:16] <Chipaca> Guest552342: so either you're having intermittent network issues, or we're having intermittent server issues
[13:16] <Chipaca> i hope beuno would know if the latter were the case ;-)
[13:17] <beuno> Chipaca, we should try and have the client expose that a bit better
[13:17] <Guest552342> i have strong and fast internet! :D
[13:17] <beuno> it seemed like a 404 vs network
[13:17] <Chipaca> beuno: expose what exactly?
[13:19] <Guest552342> Installing mir
[13:19] <Guest552342> mir failed to install: snappy package not found
[13:19] <Guest552342> but i can see mir when i search
[13:20] <Chipaca> Guest552342: the mir package is buggy, and i'm not sure it works at all, but try “mir.mvp-demo”
[13:21] <Guest552342> Chipaca, uuu 76Mb :D yep this one works
[13:21] <Chipaca> beuno: ah, snappy install just responds 'not found' on network error, yes, that needs updating
[13:24] <beuno> yes, that
[13:25] <Chipaca> beuno: snappy search is more boisterous
[14:24] <ogra_> Chipaca, mvo, who broke ubuntu-snappy-cli on the weekend ?
[14:25] <Chipaca> ogra_: how's it broken?
[14:25] <ogra_> (images dont build since sat.)
[14:25] <ogra_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:25] <ogra_> ubuntu-snappy : Depends: ubuntu-snappy-cli (= 1.7ubuntu1-1+906~ubuntu16.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
[14:25] <ogra_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[14:25] <mvo> ogra_: the build failure?
[14:25] <ogra_> ah, did it ftbfs ?
[14:37] <dholbach> sergiusens: when do you think we should do the next clinic about snapcraft 0.5? :)
[14:40] <ogra_> is 0.4 out yet ?
[14:40] * ogra_ didnt get an update
[14:41] <liuxg> Chipaca, I have upgraded my software, however, when i run "snappy config ubuntu-core | grep autoupdate", I still get nothing. see http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502677/
[14:41] <Chipaca> liuxg: snappy info, snappy list, please
[14:41] <beuno> Chipaca, mvo, we need to figure out what to do with the new channels behaviour for the edge image. Any suggestions?
[14:42] <beuno> do we update the edge image? set all current snaps to the edge channel as well?
[14:42] <dholbach> ogra_, xenial has 0.5 and the PPAs should be updated too
[14:42] <liuxg> Chipaca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502700/
[14:42] <ogra_> dholbach, well, my wily install doesnt have it ... i only have 0.3
[14:43] * ogra_ checks if the PPA got disabled or something
[14:43] <Chipaca> liuxg: "snappy config" output?
[14:43] <Chipaca> liuxg: erm
[14:43] <Chipaca> liuxg: sudo snappy config ubuntu-core
[14:44] <ogra_> bah, indeed it did
[14:44] * ogra_ curses ... so my snaps are all outdated :/
[14:44] <Chipaca> ahhh
[14:44] <Chipaca> liuxg: AUTOPILOT
[14:44] <sergiusens> dholbach, Monday or Wednesday?
[14:45] <liuxg> Chipaca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13502726/
[14:45] <Chipaca> liuxg: not autouplitottogiqwerwhateveryoutyped
[14:45] <dholbach> sergiusens, which to do you prefer?
[14:45] <liuxg> Chipaca, yeah, you are right. sorry.
[14:46] <sergiusens> dholbach, Wednesday so I can speak to kyrofa in case he wants to join
[14:46] <dholbach> sergiusens, ok, which time?
[14:47] <sergiusens> dholbach, 5pm your time maybe? (I am lost with tz diffs, sorry)
[14:48] <dholbach> that'd clash with our community team meeting, but maybe I can miss it just this once :)
[14:48] <dholbach> so that'd be 2nd Dec 16:00 UTC
[14:50] <sergiusens> dholbach, is that good for you? tuesday is fine as well
[14:50] <sergiusens> so you don't miss the meeting
[14:51] <dholbach> tuesday that timeslot is the community Q&A :)
[14:54] <stgraber> SaMnCo-desktop: don't use sudo
[14:54] <SaMnCo-desktop> stgraber- Yeah, it works now. The problem was that the system did not create the symlink for the latest lxd version
[14:55] <SaMnCo-desktop> therefore if you look at the log, it didn't know where to find the lxc binary
[14:55] <stgraber> ah yeah, I think we have a note for that in our getting-started instructions
[14:55] <stgraber> x86 and bbb images have it but not rpi2
[14:55] <SaMnCo-desktop> stgraber- Ah, I didn't see that, RTFM to me then :D
[14:55] <stgraber> SaMnCo-desktop: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/#ubuntu-core-snappy
[14:56] <ogra_> stgraber, rpi has it too
[14:57] <ogra_> the bbb and rpi images are 100% identical since last stable
[14:57] <ogra_> (module the hardware setup indeeD)
[14:57] <ogra_> *modulo
[14:59] <ogra_> (this is ubuntu-core v3 in "snappy list")
[15:18] <SaMnCo-desktop> side question, does anyone know when Docker will be updated to a more recent version than 1.6.2?
[15:18] <SaMnCo-desktop> like... 1.9?
[15:19] <asac> i have troubles figuring how to conveniently setup my lxc so i have my home mounted and i auto login with the right user etc. ... anyone has done this and has pointers/tricks?
[15:19] <asac> kickinz1: see docker questiona bove
[15:19] <asac> (if it matters, i am using lxd from daily ppa
[15:20] <kickinz1> SaMnCo-desktop, there has been some work, and there is an 1.8.3 amd64 snappy build already, but the armhf need some bug fixes, and I don't have time for that right now.
[15:20] <kickinz1> asac ^
[15:26] <asac> kickinz1: is armhf support not upstream yet?
[16:01] <dholbach> sergiusens, not sure if you saw the message earlier: tuesday that timeslot is the community Q&A :)
[16:11] <sergiusens> dholbach, oh, yeah, then wednesday is fine
[16:14] <dholbach> ok cool
[16:22] <SaMnCo-desktop> kickinz1- ok thanks
[16:47] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, welp :( i can't install https://uappexplorer.com/app/classic.mvo [Architecture: all]
[16:48] <Guest55Aw> classic failed to install: snappy package not found
[16:48] <Guest55Aw> but it's in the store
[16:49] <ogra_> Guest55Aw, hmm, i cant either ... perhaps another store issue
[16:49] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, ok thanks :'(
[16:49] <elopio> fgimenez: the $1 and $2 are alright http://paste.ubuntu.com/13503344/
[16:50] <mvo> Guest55Aw: you will need a "rolling" (16.04) image for now its only availalbe there. I expect it wil come to 15.04 too (soonish) but it is still in development
[16:50] <elopio> ogra_: hey, welcome back!
[16:50] <ogra_> elopio, hey ho !
[16:50] <mvo> ogra_: oh, you have this issue too, me
[16:50] <ogra_> mvo, i'm on 15.04 edge
[16:50] <elopio> I missed you. Don't leave us again :')
[16:50] <Guest55Aw> mvo, oooo nice :D let's roll then
[16:50] <ogra_> so i'm fine
[16:50] <mvo> ogra_: its only rolling for now
[16:50] <ogra_> yeah
[16:55] <Guest55Aw> mvo, silly question but from where do i wget the rolling image
[16:55] <ogra_> Guest55Aw, you have to create it yourself using ubuntu-device-flash
[16:56] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, oh, i see :D
[17:01] <fgimenez> elopio, no idea then... the script works fine locally
[17:02] <Guest55Aw> ogr, so.. ubuntu-device-flash core 16.04 -o snappy_rolling.img --size 4 --enable-ssh ?
[17:02] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, so.. ubuntu-device-flash core 16.04 -o snappy_rolling.img --size 4 --enable-ssh ?
[17:03] <fgimenez> elopio, i would ask more about the environment, env and go version, not sure if they could affect the suite execution though
[17:03] <ogra_> Guest55Aw, i think: ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --channel=edge -o snappy_rolling.img --enable-ssh
[17:04] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, thanks
[17:06] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, Determining oem configuration
[17:06] <Guest55Aw> generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found
[17:06] <Guest55Aw> nope
[17:06] <ogra_> oh, then you need --oem=genercic-amd64
[17:09] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, same error
[17:10] <ogra_> sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --oem=generic-amd64 --channel=edge -o snappy_rolling.img --enable-ssh rolling
[17:10] <ogra_> works here
[17:14] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, strange i get Determining oem configuration generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found :|
[17:14] <Guest55Aw> weird
[17:14] <ogra_> when you copy/paste my line above ?
[17:14] <Guest55Aw> i'm on 16.04
[17:14] <Guest55Aw> yes
[17:14] <Guest55Aw> :~$ sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --oem=generic-amd64 --channel=edge -o snappy_rolling.img --enable-ssh rolling
[17:14] <Guest55Aw> Determining oem configuration
[17:14] <Guest55Aw> generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found
[17:14] * ogra_ is on 14.04 but that shouldnt matter, my ubuntu-device-flash should be the same version as yours
[17:16] <Guest55Aw> ogra_, ubuntu-device-flash 0.33-0ubuntu2
[17:17] <ogra_> oh,. i'm on 0.31 still
[17:17] <Guest55Aw> oh :D i wander what changed
[17:20] <ogra_> the changelog doesnt look like it would have any relation to your error
[17:21] <Guest55Aw> should i open a bug report?
[17:21] * Guest55Aw brb -pizza-
[17:22] <ogra_> Guest55Aw, yeah ... i dont use 16.04 anywhere, probably it is expected breakage
[18:04] <elopio> ogra_: I need your help. If I put this in a bash script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13504401/
[18:04] <elopio> no matter how badly the command fails, the error will be left in output.txt ?
[19:15] <jerryG> getting a "has non-unique elements" error when trying to execute snapcraft. any suggestions?
[19:41] <sergiusens> jerryG, can I see your snapcraft.yaml?
[19:44] <ogra_> elopio, yes
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-za
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[05:44] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:26] <mazal> Morning thatgraemeguy
[08:39] <superfly> morning thatgraemeguy, mazal
[08:53] <mazal> Lo superfly
[08:53] <superfly> how g oes mazal
[08:53] <superfly> *goes
[08:54] <mazal> Okish and you ?
[09:03] <pieter2627> morning all
[09:08] <mazal> Morning pieter2627
[10:56] <pieter2627> hi teh3rdSock and welcome to our channel
[10:57] <pieter2627> if you would like help with anything then just ask away...
[10:57] * pieter2627 wbbl
[11:00] <teh3rdSock> aces
[11:02] <teh3rdSock> is it possible to create a network using virtual machines with 3 vm's?
[16:05] <Kilos--> afternoon all of ya
[16:24] <pieter2627_> afternoon Kilos
[16:24] <pieter2627_> and bye again all
[16:29] <Kilos> oh my
[19:08] <kulelu88> I made it for the meeting?
[19:08] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:08] <Kilos> meeting was last night
[19:08] <Kilos> ang got cancelled due to lack of attendance
[19:08] <Kilos> and
[21:48] <kulelu88> yo gremble
[21:49] <gremble> Hey kulelu88
[21:50] <kulelu88> howzit
[21:50] <gremble> Our electricity just came back on.
[21:51] <gremble> Apparently some idiot with an excavator cut the wire at the transformer station
[21:51] <gremble> So it's been pretty dark
[21:51] <gremble> How are you?
[22:33] <kulelu88> woops, forgot I was here. I am ok gremble
[22:33] <gremble> Haha
[22:33] <gremble> That is good
[22:33] <kulelu88> sorry man
[22:33] <kulelu88> was slogging earlier
[22:34] <kulelu88> fekking PHP and its ugliness making life hard
[22:34] <kulelu88> food time now. I plan on working with an obscure programming language over the next 2 days, crystal or OOC
[22:34] <kulelu88> or Genie
[22:34] <kulelu88> or all 3
[22:35] <kulelu88> bbl
[23:06] <superfly> I should really get to bed
[23:06] <gremble> Probably
[23:07] <tumbleweed> at some point
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2015-11-25-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:05] <clivejo> that sily bot keeps blaming me for breaking plasma-nm
[00:06] <valorie> easy fix: stop breaking it!
[00:07] <clivejo> I didnt!
[00:07] <valorie> :-)
[08:22] <sitter> yofel: pinging starbuck1 on IRC usually works
[12:01] <sitter> yofel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-debug-installer/16.04ubuntu1 keep on eye on that plz. not sure the tests will actually pass since they are obscenely naughty and require installation of packages/removal
[12:01] * yofel wonders how the parser reached that conclusion o.O
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) d318a2e * Harald Sitter: (3 files in 2 dirs)
[12:02] <pursuivant> add a pretty terrible test for finder. it manipulates apt... very meh
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/d318a2ecc6d9268ac0af4ccb82fc2f98df958771
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) ce6e43e * Harald Sitter: src/DebugFinder.cpp
[12:02] <pursuivant> turn qt4x11 source mapping into generic mapping
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/ce6e43e4f339590772589fda91fc4c5309021604
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) c46ff70 * Harald Sitter: src/DebugFinder.cpp
[12:02] <pursuivant> implement name mangling to get qt5 dbg packages
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/c46ff7074d593839e83de955d9c9751d7f496952
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) 0bdc0ac * Harald Sitter: autotests/findertest.cpp
[12:02] <pursuivant> add license header
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/0bdc0ac95810921fd005fc1dc1e72f4adce1c3c3
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) 098c932 * Harald Sitter: debian/changelog
[12:02] <pursuivant> bump changelog
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/098c932d26c3cc460a163673e1978efbaad7d3c4
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) d8ba4ad * Harald Sitter: .gitignore
[12:02] <pursuivant> add git ignore
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/d8ba4ada501aed26217ecbd6e2ed3ec9a49897d6
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) 87b6372 * Harald Sitter: autotests/findertest.cpp
[12:02] <pursuivant> add a test for qt5 mapping
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/87b63720efe66fd80bc11a3f02b54ad929c4fa51
[12:02] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) a4f5a8c * Harald Sitter: debian/changelog
[12:02] <pursuivant> fix changelog series
[12:02] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/a4f5a8ceed2e799102f75a1773a9d5e0cd83789b
[12:15] <yofel> sitter: 1/1 Test #1: kubuntu-debug-installer-findertest ...***Exception: Other 0.13 sec
[12:15] <yofel> QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display
[12:15] * yofel -> lunch
[12:24] <sitter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsNJtnUb7c
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:38] <pursuivant> kubuntu-debug-installer (master) 596fce7 * Harald Sitter: debian (2 files)
[12:38] <pursuivant> disable tests during build as they are tricky to get working
[12:38] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/kubuntu-debug-installer/596fce73a5bb0809dba93fafad0963a2d4885f37
[12:39] <sitter> yofel: ^ don't care enough to do more with this
[12:51] <clivejo> In the calligra packages there is a deb file called calligra-active made by an install file, however it doesnt get installed. This seems to throw missing list warnings, is there any way to stop it throwing files that are installed into that package or not-installed?
[12:55] <Riddell> clivejo: is it in debian/control ?
[12:56] <Riddell> I don't remember if calligra-active actually should be built these days
[12:56] <Riddell> ask in #calligra
[12:56] <Riddell> I suspect not
[12:56] <Riddell> check debian/changelog too
[12:56] <clivejo> nope, not in control
[13:09] <yofel> sounds like the file didn't get bzr rm'd
[13:09] <yofel> sitter: ok, I'll take a look later.
[13:10] <yofel> sitter: or well, it does work, so lets leave it like that
[13:13] <clivejo> so I need to remove the calligraactive.install file and add the files into not-installed?
[13:13] <yofel> yes
[13:13] <yofel> or well, what does upstream say?
[13:14] <clivejo> havent asked yet
[13:14] <clivejo> reading the changelog
[13:14] <yofel> if this is about qt4 -active, then I think that's very likely trash
[13:15] <yofel> but they'll know best
[13:15] <clivejo> 7th Jun 2012 yofel added Merge with debian unstable -enable calligraactive and calligra-dev
[13:15] <yofel> yay, everyone praise our not working gingerlog trucking
[13:15] <yofel> erm, changelog tracking
[13:16] <clivejo> why is it a gingerlog?
[13:16] <clivejo> Im not getting these memos!
[13:17] <clivejo> senile=xenial, gingerlog=changelog, I dont get the clockwork carrot one
[13:19] <sgclark> morning
[13:19] <yofel> clivejo: a certain munich whiteboard https://kyofel.de/owncloud/index.php/s/rx9tOkVx3WBpCwP
[13:21] <clivejo> Neon = JR build?
[13:23] <clivejo> where do the carrots come in?
[13:26] <clivejo> stupid FTP uploaded
[13:26] <clivejo> another 190Mb wasted
[13:30] <yofel> the carrors were part of the 2nd beer item
[13:33] <sgclark> Is the meeting today? If so what time please...
[13:33] <yofel> 8PM UTC
[13:40] <yofel> clivejo: I could provide a server container if you run out of bandwidth (you would have to set it up though)
[13:40] <yofel> clivejo: will you be there for the meeting?
[13:40] <clivejo> Im not a dev
[13:41] <yofel> neither are half the people in it. You're still part of the community
[13:42] <clivejo> is it santa's meeting?
[13:43] <yofel> no, just a team catchup.
[14:11] <sitter> yofel: not sure we'd get much from solving the test situation anyway. ideally I'd have the tests fully isolated from the life system. so if we were to get annoyed by the lack of autotest runs we probably should throw effort at getting some sort of simulation mode in qapt instead
[14:11] <yofel> true
[14:11] <sitter> which would also conveniently solve the problem that qapt is impossible to test for the very same reason ^^
[16:43] <d_ed> I've got Kubuntu on a pen drive trying to install, Kubuntu used to have an option to install from the grub menu, does that still exist? mine always goes into live mode directly
[16:49] <mck182__> hola guys, do you think this patch could be backported to buntu's qt? http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/src/corelib/kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp?id=6129be8a4ba976c42e51012ebaa9005eb402db80
[16:49] <mck182__> it's quite an important patch
[16:49] <mck182__> as without it the user's QT_PLUGIN_PATH are useless
[16:50] <ahoneybun> d_ed: I've have not see that before, only the live mode is there that I know of
[16:50] <ahoneybun> mck182__: the repos need to be open first
[16:50] <ahoneybun> they might be now not sure
[16:50] <mck182__> ahoneybun: what does that mean?
[16:51] <ahoneybun> there is a freeze so no new packages are uploaded for a release but the gates might be open now for 16.04
[16:51] <mck182__> ah
[16:52] <mck182__> but that wouldn't get this change to 15.10 then, I presume?
[16:52] <ahoneybun> changes can get made after a release when it comes to bugs and such, so it is possible
[16:53] <ahoneybun> hoop into #ubuntu-devel and ask around there
[16:54] <ahoneybun> mck182__: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-16-04-release-schedule-release-schedule-date-xenial-xerus
[16:55] * mck182__ tries ubuntu-devel
[16:58] <mck182__> the other thing I'm wondering is why the default cmake install paths are different from qt
[16:58] <yofel> d_ed: if you mean install from grub as in debian-installer like, we don't provide that as an offline option. The mini.iso (netinst) can do that though.
[17:03] <d_ed> yofel: ok, I'm just showing my age from when I last had to install things :D
[17:03] <d_ed> thanks
[17:03] <d_ed> fyi, I'm asking because my ubiquity is crashing on launch, but I might have just burned the image badly so I'll retry that first.
[19:02] <sick_rimmit> Hello folks..
[19:08] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Ping, hi
[19:08] <yofel> hey
[19:08] <sick_rimmit> What time is the HO ?
[19:09] <yofel> in 52min IIRC
[19:09] <sick_rimmit> Ah I may be ahead of myself, most importantly I have not missed it
[19:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do we really need to double build pam-kwallet?
[19:51] <ahoneybun> 9mins I believe
[20:05] <alleehol> shadeslayer: as long as we have a wallet4 and wallet5: IMHO yes.
[20:05] <yofel> sick_rimmit, sgclark: ping
[20:05] <sick_rimmit> Hola
[20:06] <sgclark> hi
[20:07] <alleehol> sick_rimmit, sgclark can you join the hangout or do you need an invite?
[20:07] <sick_rimmit> Need invite Hangout
[20:07] <sick_rimmit> Or a link
[20:13] <yofel> shadeslayer, Riddell, sitter: anyone want to join the hangout?
[20:13] <yofel> clivejo: ^
[20:13] <shadeslayer> sure, send me a link, I'll be passively around I guess
[20:15] <sgclark> sorry I am not working, cant hear
[20:17] <sick_rimmit> sgclark: Check Google settings, could be audio
[20:17] <sick_rimmit> device
[20:33] <sgclark> I am here
[20:46] <sgclark> We need to discuss this when I can participate..
[20:57] <valorie> will try to join on the computer instead of just listening on my phone
[21:13] <valorie> sorry for the feedback
[21:17] <valorie> boo, where are you sgclark?
[21:18] <sgclark> pointless. No one can hear me.
[21:18] <sgclark> I am going shopping for holiday dinner. Send me what you want me to do.
[21:18] <valorie> ah
[21:19] <valorie> have a productive shopping trip
[21:19] <valorie> freebies
[21:20] <valorie> swag
[21:24] <valorie> github isn't free!
[21:24] <valorie> mirroring on github is fine
[21:26] <valorie> grrr
[21:28] <soee> own Gitlab server ftw
[21:30] <valorie> that would be cool indeed
[21:30] <valorie> I'm all for mirroring on github -- it's outreach
[21:31] <valorie> amen ovidiu-florin
[21:31] <valorie> we should never hotlink
[21:31] <valorie> it's rude to the person hosting the original
[21:48] <mparillo> Is the hangout over? If not, do you have the URL?
[21:48] <shadeslayer> shopping is the worst thing ever
[21:48] <shadeslayer> everyone tries to help you
[21:48] <valorie> GCi is awesome
[21:49] <shadeslayer> much annoying
[21:49] <shadeslayer> whats with GCi?
[21:49] <genii> I also hate shopping. I like to pick out ahead of time what I'm there to get, go directly to that area and get it, check out.
[21:49] <shadeslayer> genii: Clothes shopping is the worst
[21:49] <shadeslayer> takes me 4 hours
[21:50] <shadeslayer> and even then I won't buy new stuff
[21:51] <valorie> think of shopping as hunting and gathering
[21:51] <valorie> scan the shops for prey, pounce, kill, DONE
[21:54] <genii> Women have the shopping thing totally figured out.
[21:54] <valorie> most calories in H&G societies come from the women, yeah
[21:55] <valorie> the men get all the kudos with their big kills though
[21:55] <valorie> :-)
[21:55] <shadeslayer> heh
[21:56] <shadeslayer> Wish there was a API for H&M
[21:56] <shadeslayer> POST /api/buy/randomizedJeans(color: blue)
[21:56] <shadeslayer> done
[21:56] <shadeslayer> :P
[22:10] <yofel> lol
[22:10] <yofel> surprise presents :P
[22:11] <valorie> mail to -devel sent about GCi
[22:11] <yofel> thanks
[22:11] <valorie> also, #kde-soc is good for questions, student support, etc.
[22:12] <valorie> that was good, although my ears are ringing
[22:12] <valorie> not used to earplugs for hours
[22:15] <yofel> heh, I feel with you. I did our old mumble meetings with in-ear headphones, which wasn't nice. You need a real headset for long meetings
[22:16] <valorie> I've bought a few headsets, but haven't found one that is 1. comfortable and 2. works
[22:17] <valorie> that said, I might find another somewhere in our Great Cleanout
[22:17] <sick_rimmit> Yes, a nice headset with Soft Large Ear Cups, like the gaming headsets, with a boom mic. Really worth while for meetings like this
[22:17] <valorie> I'll ask my gaming son to find some for me, perhaps
[22:18] <sick_rimmit> YaY! that would do it
[22:18] <valorie> I'll see him tomorrow for thxgiving
[22:18] <valorie> he's a linux user, so he'll know what works
[22:18] <sick_rimmit> Well have a great time tomorrow, I know thanks giving is popular celebration
[22:19] * shadeslayer ponders about whether pkg-kde-tools's kf5 sequence helper is broken
[22:19] <valorie> since it's all about family + eating, yeah!
[22:20] <valorie> although: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/adele-perform-saturday-night-live-article-1.2442993
[22:20] <shadeslayer> apparently running debian/clean with kf5 sequence is broken :O
[22:20] <shadeslayer> er
[22:20] <shadeslayer> debian/rules clean
[22:21] <yofel> well, nobody ever tests that..
[22:21] <shadeslayer> http://dci.pangea.pub/view/Failing/job/unstable_unstable_applications_ktp-common-internals_src/3/console
[22:21] <shadeslayer> I was
[22:21] <yofel> ^^
[22:22] <yofel> make: *** No rule to make target 'clean'. Stop.
[22:22] <yofel> huh, shouldn't that be defined by dhmk o.O?
[22:23] <valorie> that snl kit is so funny, because it is so close to the truth
[22:26] <mparillo> It looks as if rekonq is pining for the fjords https://adjamblog.wordpress.com/2014/01/12/rekonq-2-4-2/comment-page-2/#comment-4184
[22:27] <shadeslayer> lol
[22:27] <shadeslayer> yofel: I have no clue how this is supposed to work xD
[22:27] <shadeslayer> $file = "/usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/lib/kf5_flags";
[22:27] <shadeslayer> hardcoded paths
[22:27] <shadeslayer> much fun
[22:27] <yofel> well, it's perl
[22:28] <shadeslayer> yofel: I don't see the dhmk stuff being included anywhere in the sequence
[22:30] <shadeslayer> I'm unsure if one can even include the dhmk file
[22:30] <shadeslayer> in the sequence
[22:30] <yofel> shadeslayer: debian-qt-kde.mk line 6: include $(dqk_dir)dhmk.mk ?
[22:30] <shadeslayer> yofel: dqk_dir is a different dir
[22:30] <shadeslayer> and would include work?
[22:31] <shadeslayer> does the dhmk.mk clean target do anything special?
[22:32] <yofel> not that I know of, I don't even understand how it actually generates the target -.-
[22:32] <yofel> too much make magic
[22:35] <shadeslayer> whaaaa
[22:37] <shadeslayer> perl is fucking unreadable
[22:38] <shadeslayer> yofel: dh_clean '--buildsystem=kf5'
[22:39] <shadeslayer> that's the problem
[22:39] <shadeslayer> must not take kf5 as argument
[22:39] <clivejo> sorry I missed the meeting, is there a way to view it now?
[22:40] <shadeslayer> yofel: at the very least debian/rules clean also fails with the debian-qt-kde.mk scripts for me
[22:41] <yofel> brrrr
[22:41] <shadeslayer> oh hm, not anymore
[22:41] <shadeslayer> must be something I changed
[22:43] <shadeslayer> hurray
[22:43] <shadeslayer> fuck load of debug
[22:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13507751/
[22:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: call sequence for the kf5 helper
[22:44] <shadeslayer> same for the qt-kde one http://paste.ubuntu.com/13507761/
[22:45] <shadeslayer> calls dhmk_clean
[22:45] <shadeslayer> gm
[22:45] <shadeslayer> *hm
[22:47] <shadeslayer> nope, not a clue
[22:48] <shadeslayer> oh oh
[22:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: also a problem with the kde sequence
[22:49] <yofel> heh
[22:49] <shadeslayer> ahhh
[22:49] <shadeslayer> I'm a idiot
[22:50] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13507817/
[22:50] <yofel> lol
[22:50] <yofel> looks reasonable :P
[22:50] <shadeslayer> and hurray, atleast post commit hooks work for DCI again
[22:54] <shadeslayer> I am the master of sed!
[22:54] <shadeslayer> sed -i s,include\ /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/debian-qt-kde.mk,%:\\n\\tdh\ \$\@\ \-\-with\ kf5, ktp*/debian/rules
[22:56] <yofel> ^^
[22:58] <shadeslayer> and finally ktp should be green on DCI \o/
[22:59] <shadeslayer> noo
[22:59] <shadeslayer> oh pft
[22:59] <shadeslayer> I think that's a problem on KCI
[23:01] <clivejo> is there a recording of the hangout?
[23:01] <yofel> dh_auto_build --buildsystem=kf5 -a
[23:01] <yofel> dh_auto_build: error: unable to chdir to obj-i686-linux-gnu
[23:01] <yofel> lolwhat
[23:01] <yofel> hm, no idea if we recorded it...
[23:01] <shadeslayer> yofel: yeah
[23:02] <shadeslayer> that's quite weird
[23:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: though xenial seems to have built ktp-desktop-applets
[23:02] <shadeslayer> so why not approver
[23:03] <shadeslayer> and whoa, lp has gotten faster
[23:06] <mparillo> If no recording, are there maybe five sentences of highlights?
[23:06] <shadeslayer> oooh
[23:06] <shadeslayer> yofel: look at gitattributes
[23:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: file merge=dpkg-mergechangelog
[23:07] <shadeslayer> fancy
[23:10] <shadeslayer> yofel: similar fail http://dci.pangea.pub/job/unstable_unstable_applications_ktp-approver_bin_amd64/1/console
[23:10] <shadeslayer> I know why
[23:10] <shadeslayer> I think
[23:11] <yofel> hm, why does dh_auto_configure not configure anything?
[23:11] <shadeslayer> no overriden command I think
[23:12] <yofel> aaah, that might be a dhmk feature, right
[23:13] <shadeslayer> lets see if this works -DDBUS_SEND_PATH=/usr/bin/dbus-send
[23:13] <shadeslayer> er
[23:13] <shadeslayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13508079/
[23:14] <shadeslayer> ok nope
[23:16] <shadeslayer> one should perhaps add overriden command stuff to the kf5 sequence
[23:25] <shadeslayer> yofel: now I'm losing flags I think
[23:32] <valorie> sitter: can you perhaps find your link to stock replies to bug reports? I'm going through Telegram and noticed that Yofel couldn't find it
[23:32] <valorie> the bug triagers could use that
[23:32] <yofel> there is the one for the ubuntu bugsquad, but I'm fairly certain we had a page with kde specific stuff
[23:32] <clivejo> yippeeee
[23:33] <yofel> anyway
[23:33] * yofel -> bed, gn8
[23:34] <valorie> we did, I remember fixing some typos in it
[23:35] <valorie> perhaps sitter moved it to our kde wiki home
[23:41] <shadeslayer> yofel: valorie https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/BugTriage
[23:44] <valorie> yay!
[23:44] <valorie> thank you, shadeslayer
[23:45] <valorie> ovidiu-florin ^^^
[23:46] <valorie> rick needs to get a bouncer
[23:47] <shadeslayer> valorie: cheers
[23:59] <valorie> mparillo: do you have Telegram?
[23:59] <valorie> if so, the cards listed there are a pretty good outline of the meeting
[23:59] * valorie took no notes, sorry
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[00:00] <luan> baixei torrent
[00:00] <shallwe> então está tranquilo, iras usar um pendrive ou um dvd pra gravar a iso?
[00:02] <luan> eu vou usar o pendrive,usar o unetbootin,vi isso no viva linux,esta certo ne
[00:02] <shallwe> então tá, não tem erro só fazer o boot e começar a instalação
[00:02] <shallwe> na hora de iniciar escolhe a linguagem portugues pt-br brasil e quando for pedir pra ver o disco, escolhe apagar tudo e instalar ubuntu
[00:02] <shallwe> mais fácil impossível
[00:03] <shallwe> lembrando que isso vai apagar seu disco inteiro
[00:03] <^Philosophus^> pow estao usando o meu nick registrado, como faco para tomar ele ?
[00:04] <shallwe> ^Philosophus^: não pode
[00:04] <shallwe> se já foi registrado kkkk
[00:04] <shallwe> não foi vc quem registrou não?
[00:05] <^Philosophus^> pow registrei a parada e nao to conseguindo logar com ele
[00:05] <^Philosophus^> xD
[00:06] <^Philosophus^> quando vou logar entra com o segundario
[00:08] <shallwe> Philosophus: meio estranho, só se é eu app, vc usa o xchat?
[00:08] <^Philosophus^> uso
[00:08] <luan> vcs estão brigando por nick
[00:08] <shallwe> então se vc nao muda lá nas configs do xchat ele vai entrar com o teu nome da sua home
[00:09] <shallwe> isso que acontece né?
[00:09] <shallwe> mas se ele reconhece a sua senha, não tem como vc entrar com outro
[00:33] <rafaelsoaresbr> Philosophus, /msg NickServ GHOST <nick> <senha>
[01:52] <Philosophus> consegui
[01:52] <Philosophus> xD
[01:53] <astroo-> bom
[02:15] <Philosophus> alguem sabe me dizer se o ubuntu 15.10 ja vem com startup manager ?
[11:30] <aedigital> bom dia
[11:34] <neutersh> dia
[11:35] <aedigital> buenas
[11:37] <MerliM> bom dia
[11:40] <Ferrhcp> Bom dia Galera
[11:41] <Ferrhcp> alguém poderia me ajudar com uma questão de particionamento?
[11:43] <aedigital> Ferrhcp, diga
[11:44] <elisboa> Ferrhcp: diga sua dúvida de uma vez
[11:44] <Ferrhcp> Seguinte, exite algum tipo de partição, que simplesmemte congela os dados, ou seja nada pode ser executado nela
[11:44] <Ferrhcp> só armazena mesmo?
[11:44] <elisboa> se alguém souber, irá responder
[11:44] <elisboa> Ferrhcp: isso pode ser devido aos parâmetros de montagem
[11:44] <elisboa> digite o seguinte comando:
[11:45] <elisboa> grep /particao /proc/mounts
[11:45] <Ferrhcp> hum...
[11:45] <elisboa> e cole o resultado aqui
[11:45] <Ferrhcp> a moment
[11:45] <elisboa> Algumas partições como /tmp podem ter regras específicas de montagem para que sejam mais seguras
[11:45] <aedigital> deve ser possivel montar uma particao soh como "escrita"
[11:45] <elisboa> Ferrhcp: olha a minha, por exemplo:
[11:45] <elisboa> grep /tmp /proc/mounts
[11:45] <elisboa> /dev/xvdj1 /tmp xfs rw,seclabel,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota 0 0
[11:46] <MerliM> elisboa: take easy man
[11:46] <MerliM> ahuauah
[11:46] <elisboa> aedigital: pode ser que a partição que ele está falando tenha o noexec, como no caso da minha /tmp
[11:46] <aedigital> elisboa, seja la como for
[11:46] <MerliM> Ferrhcp: creio que nao faz sentido ela so gravaria, tem como 'congela' torna-la somente leitura
[11:46] <aedigital> eh soh criar uma particao
[11:46] <MerliM> read
[11:46] <aedigital> que permita apenas escrita
[11:47] <Ferrhcp> é isso mesmo
[11:47] <Ferrhcp> que preciso
[11:47] <MerliM> porem primeiro voce monta ela como gravação, alimenta ela com o que quer e remonta somente READ
[11:47] <MerliM> se por congelar queira dizer isso
[11:47] <Ferrhcp> como posso setar o noexec em uma partição ja existente?
[11:47] <Ferrhcp> isso mesmo Merlin
[11:47] <elisboa> Ferrhcp: pode sim
[11:47] <Ferrhcp> é para backup
[11:48] <elisboa> para isso você usa o remount, do seguinte jeito:
[11:48] <Ferrhcp> hum..
[11:48] <elisboa> mount -o remount,noexec /particao
[11:48] <Ferrhcp> isso pode alterar algo nas permissões de leitura e escrita?
[11:48] <Ferrhcp> vou ter que aplicar isso a quente no meio da produção
[11:48] <elisboa> não, apenas na execução de comandos
[11:48] <MerliM> é tem o noexec, porem se for write o cara deve poder rodar o chmod +x ou estou errado????
[11:49] <Ferrhcp> aconselham? ou acham prudente fazer após o horário?
[11:50] <MerliM> prudente fazer um backup do backup primeiro e depois aplicar
[11:50] <MerliM> se só existe esse diretorio com esses dados
[11:50] <Ferrhcp> sim...
[11:51] <Ferrhcp> na verdade são em 3 ou 4 servers
[11:51] <MerliM> vais testar algo NOVO pra vc que nao sabe como vai se comportar no teu sistema de produção
[11:51] <Ferrhcp> to falando de 20 teras de dados
[11:51] <MerliM> PRODUÇÃO
[11:51] <Ferrhcp> perfeito
[11:51] <MerliM> ou entao simula o ambiente em uma VM
[11:51] <MerliM> até melhor
[11:51] <Ferrhcp> vou simular algo em homologação
[11:51] <Ferrhcp> perfeito
[11:51] <MerliM> elisboa: pergunta o noexec me impede de setar manualmente um binario como executavel
[11:51] <MerliM> ?
[11:51] <Ferrhcp> Merlin, Elisboa, vlws ae!
[11:51] <MerliM> mesmo sendo root
[11:52] <Ferrhcp> será que o root tb?
[11:52] <Ferrhcp> vou testar e posto aqui o resultado
[11:53] <aedigital> esquema ae, eh pesquisar sobre o assunto, testar, aprimorar
[11:53] <aedigital> e entao concluir
[11:53] <MerliM> Ferrhcp: o btrfs parece ser bem rico de opções tá bem maduro já
[11:53] <MerliM> veja se o formato desse filesystem nativamente já nao te atende
[11:53] <lynxer10_> fala povo!
[11:54] <MerliM> outro muito bom é ZFS porem não sei como tá a implementação dele pra NIX
[11:54] <MerliM> *ignorado --'
[11:55] <lynxer10_> MerliM: :)
[12:00] <Ferrhcp> hum..
[12:00] <Ferrhcp> vou testando aqui
[12:00] <lynxer10_> aedigital: :) bom dia vei
[12:01] <aedigital> lynxer10_, buenas tiozinho
[12:01] <aedigital> :)
[12:01] <MerliM> lynxer10_: Ae man lol
[12:02] <Aloizio> bom dia galera
[12:03] <lynxer10_> Aloizio: fala ae
[12:04] <Aloizio> to aqui fazendo aula e me preparando par concurso, galera sempre ajuda nas duvidas
[12:05] <Aloizio> fiz um concurso em SC fiquei em Quarto colocado, a galera aqui ajudou muito.
[12:05] <lynxer10_> Aloizio: concurso de que? preparando aula? vc e professor?
[12:06] <Aloizio> nao, concurso para tec. info no instituto federal, to estudando para prova pratica
[12:06] <lynxer10_> putz agora que vi, interrogatorio do caramba
[12:06] <aedigital> hahahaha
[12:06] <Aloizio> q nada
[12:06] <lynxer10_> uhauhauhauh
[12:06] <lynxer10_> foi maulz
[12:06] <aedigital> soh faltouo perguntar a cor da cueda dele
[12:06] <aedigital> :P
[12:06] <Aloizio> preta
[12:06] <Aloizio> ahahhahaa
[12:06] <aedigital> hahahaha
[12:06] <aedigital> :)
[12:07] <Aloizio> mas sempre perguntam, pq dificil ter um concurso que tenha questoes sobre linux
[12:09] <Aloizio> galera, sobre compartilhar diretorio home com samba, alguma dica para ajustar permissoes
[12:10] <Aloizio> ocorre que pela rede nao consigo criar subpastas e arquivos
[12:15] <elisboa> Aloizio: passou então?
[12:17] <lynxer10_> auhauauhauhauh
[12:17] <lynxer10_> nao e rosinha nao?
[12:58] <anoid> Olá... o IRC ainda esta vivo?
[12:59] <anoid> Alguém por ai?
[13:01] <aedigital> maybe
[13:01] <aedigital> :P
[13:01] <rootsh> anoid: faça a sua perguntar, quem puder responder, vai responder
[13:02] <anoid> o.O rs, eu eu só estava querendo saber se o IRC ainda estava de pé! Gente que felicidade! \o/
[13:02] <anoid> vou ressucitar o irc na minha rotina =D
[13:03] <aedigital> hahaha
[13:03] <shallwe> bom dia
[13:03] <anoid> bom dia
[13:03] <aedigital> buenas
[13:05] <lynxer10_> shallwe: bom dia vei
[13:05] <shallwe> ;)
[13:06] <shallwe> ontem alguém estava falando de boot rápido do ubuntu, então.. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Booting-Linux-1-Second&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%29
[13:07] <lynxer10_> eu comentei algo disso , no meu pc ta assim, super rapido pelo ssd
[13:08] <shallwe> é, tem várias coisas que podem ser alteradas, claro que depende do pc
[13:10] <shallwe> e um último artigo: http://www.datamation.com/open-source/why-chromeos-tops-linux-mac-and-windows.html
[13:10] <shallwe> ainda vou testar esse chrome OS
[13:11] <lynxer10_> nunca nem vi video dele, mas escutei alguns comentarios de que e muito limitado
[13:11] <anoid> sim sim, eu ja testei a algum tempo atras, logo quando anunciaram fiz o teste em uma vm
[13:11] <anoid> não consegui fazer muita coisa, era como usar as apps do google no google chrome
[13:12] <lynxer10_> pelo que entendi e praticamente um "android" que faz tudo na nuvem ou estou enganado?
[13:12] <anoid> é isso mesmo... mas acho que aqui no brasil esse negócio de "tudo na nuvem" ainda vai demorar um tempo pra pegar...
[13:13] <anoid> se onde estívessemos tivessemos uma conexão de qualidade =)... a historia poderia ser diferente
[13:16] <Fisico> indicam algum editor de pdf?
[13:16] <anoid> LibreOffice Draw?
[13:16] <anoid> já experimentou?
[13:16] <Fisico> anoid, não
[13:16] <Fisico> eu consigo editar o pdf?
[13:17] <anoid> sim, não espere conseguí-lo editar como se edita um doc word =) ... mas da pra fazer alterações.
[13:17] <Fisico> vou tentar, obrigado pela dica anoid
[13:17] <Fisico> :)
[13:18] <anoid> imagina =)... https://pt-br.libreoffice.org/baixe-ja/libreoffice-novo/
[13:18] <anoid> segue o link
[13:18] <Fisico> num abre pdf anoid
[13:18] <Fisico> o libreooffice draw
[13:19] <anoid> abre sim... deixa-me testar... testado e abrindo. Arquivo>Abrir
[13:20] <anoid> rodando aqui a versao 4.2.8.2
[13:20] <anoid> no Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[13:20] <Fisico> anoid, abriu no gmp :)
[13:21] <Fisico> anoid, obrigaod
[13:21] <anoid> Fisico, o gmp abre mesmo... Nossa que estranho não ter abrido ai... esta com plataforma windows? pode ser o filtro de extensão da janela
[13:21] <Fisico> obrigado
[13:22] <Fisico> anoid, não abriu, to no linux mesmo
[13:22] <anoid> vlw...
[14:29] <ule> bom dia
[14:29] <jaqent> ule: bom dia
[14:30] <ule> ops "boa tarde"
[14:32] <anoid> tarde =0
[14:32] <anoid> =)
[14:33] <ule> alguem ai usando ossec hids?
[14:42] <lambertini> estou com um problema de disco, partição não está acessível, quando tento montar essa partição tenho a resposta de hybernate, ou seja deu erro ao se desligar do windows, alguém tem ideia de como posso resolver esse problema ?
[14:44] <aedigital> que tipo de particao? ntfs?
[14:44] <lambertini> isso
[14:44] <lambertini> aedigital, exatamente
[14:45] <aedigital> o chkdsk do win nao consegue recuperar a particao?
[14:46] <lambertini> cara, eu tento por o cd de instalação e quando tento atualizar
[14:46] <lambertini> ele me retorna
[14:46] <lambertini> a únidade onde o windows está instalado está sendo bloqueada
[14:46] <lambertini> não faço ideia
[14:47] <aedigital> acho que o jeito sera retirar a hd
[14:47] <aedigital> instalar em outro micro
[14:47] <aedigital> e entao tentar recuperar a particao ntfs usando algum software do windows
[14:47] <lambertini> aedigital, mas acho que é erro de permissão no hd, será que o micro tem algo a ver?
[14:48] <aedigital> dificil dizer
[14:48] <aedigital> solucao que eu vejo eh o que apontei acima
[14:48] <aedigital> ah
[14:48] <aedigital> e rezar
[14:48] <aedigital> :P
[14:49] <aedigital> bem capaz de ter zoado toda a instalacao
[14:49] <lambertini> não preciso da instalaçao
[14:49] <lambertini> preciso só dos arquivos
[14:50] <aedigital> k
[14:52] <lambertini> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[14:53] <MerliM> lambertini: com um disco de instalacao boot na tela de iniciar instalacao tem Reparar ou recuperar Instalacao
[14:53] <MerliM> abre o cmd
[14:53] <MerliM> digita -> chkdsk UNIDADE /X /F
[14:53] <MerliM> ex:
[14:53] <MerliM> chkdsk D: /X )F
[14:54] <MerliM> chkdsk D: /X /F
[15:00] <MerliM> lambertini: viu a dica
[15:00] <MerliM> quase certo resolver o chkdsk vai vasculhar a estrutura da particao do disco e 'arrumar' os orfaos
[15:40] <lambertini> MerliM, estava almoçando, vou ler
[16:09] <lambertini> MerliM, obrigado pela dica
[16:09] <lambertini> MerliM, mas não deu certo
[16:16] <hggdh> lambertini: um chkdsk /F d: iria anunciar que necessita de um reboot no Windows para seguir. Deste um reboot no Windows?
[16:17] <hggdh> lambertini: adicionalmente, se colocas o Windows em hibernate, o drive fica indisponível para o Linux
[16:17] <lambertini> hggdh, pois é, ele ficou em hibernate sozinho
[16:17] <lambertini> preciso pegar os arquivos de lá
[16:17] <lambertini> tentei no windows
[16:17] <lambertini> e agora toh linux
[16:18] <hggdh> lambertini: o que ocorre no Windows?
[16:18] <lambertini> toh tentando o testdisk
[16:18] <lambertini> ele da um erro
[16:18] <lambertini> tela azul, e diz que não pode iniciar
[16:18] <lambertini> ai quando tento por o cd e coloco pra reparar
[16:18] <lambertini> ele me diz que o hd não tem permissão
[16:19] <lambertini> que está bloqueado
[16:19] <hggdh> lambertini: ENTER não é pontuação. Uma frase completa por linha, por favor
[16:19] <lambertini> ok
[16:20] <hggdh> lambertini: se nem no Windows consegues... retire o drive e monte em outro sistema, e tente lá. Mas o que parece é que a partição está destruida
[16:21] <lambertini> hggdh, eu tirei o HD e acabei de ligar no windows via USB, eu tenho duas partições, windows e dados, a partição de dados eu consigo acessar corretamente, a do windowns não, o problema é que eu tinha um backup de outro hd nessa partição, só precisava pegar esses dados, o windows funcionar ou não, não interessa muito
[16:21] <LeandroLuiz> elisboa: heuahuea
[16:21] <lambertini> acabei de ligar no LINUX, desculpa
[16:23] <mac_> Hum!
[16:23] <mac_> Esse 15.10 ta cheio de bugs
[16:23] <lambertini> ao tentar montar automaticamente, ele me retorna o seguinte erro: http://pastebin.com/ni4Nev6t , porem se eu monto ele manualmente ele acessa, aparecem algumas pastas do windows, porem vazias, igualmente se eu dou permissão a um usuário em outro windows, mas não consigo pegar os dados novamente
[16:25] <hggdh> lambertini: tente montar read-only (-o ro)
[16:25] <lambertini> sim, assim ele monta, mas aparece como eu te disse
[16:25] <lambertini> não aparecem os arquivos que preciso acessar
[16:26] <mac_> Porquê Ubuntu está despencando na Distrowatch?
[16:26] <hggdh> lambertini: lamento. Talvez consiguasmais em um canal Windows. Ainda soa como partição danificada.
[16:27] <lambertini> tudo bem, hggdh vou tentar algo com o testdisk novamente
[16:27] <hggdh> mac_: por que tem mais competição hoje em dia.
[16:27] <mac_> Mint também não anda muito bom
[16:28] <mac_> Mint e Ubuntu tô saindo fora e voltando para o Debian
[16:28] <hggdh> mac_: existem varias distros de Linux. Escolha uma na qual sinta-se melhor.
[16:28] <Logico> mac_, o que está exatamente?
[16:28] <mac_> Bugs
[16:28] <Logico> mac_, oque está pegando exatamente
[16:28] <mac_> navegadores fecham
[16:28] <MerliM> lambertini: vc tem uma particao windows e outra dados a dados é legivel e a windows noa porem vc mantem dados na windows ???
[16:28] <Logico> mac_, sim, mas quais?
[16:29] <mac_> Firefox
[16:29] <MerliM> qual o papel da partição DADOS então????
[16:29] <mac_> aquela mensagem chata acpi pcc prob failed
[16:29] <lambertini> MerliM, a partição de dados é pra guardar dados apenas, eu tenho duas partições, uma vai o sistema e a outra uso para backup, de programas, apenas dados
[16:30] <mac_> Alguns ótimos programas que não funciona mais no Mint e Ubuntu
[16:30] <mac_> tipo Multisystem e SSRR
[16:30] <hggdh> mac_: e? O que ocorre quando esta mensagem aparece? o computador pega fogo?
[16:30] <mac_> fica travado
[16:30] <Logico> mac_, estranho, nunca ouvi falar disso
[16:30] <mac_> um tempo
[16:31] <mac_> parecendo windows
[16:31] <MerliM> lambertini: continua sem entender a lógica porem tanto faz te recomendo nao usar ainda aplicativos sem saber o que realmente aconteceu com a partição faz um dd dela
[16:31] <hggdh> mac_: frases completas por linha, por favor.
[16:31] <MerliM> e usa o testdisk em cima do dd bem mais seguro
[16:31] <Logico> mac_, deve ser problema da sua máquina
[16:31] <hggdh> mac_: primeira sugestão: não use Firefox; segunda: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:31] <lambertini> MerliM, eu tentei fazer um dd, mas não consegui abrir depois
[16:31] <mac_> duas maquina e um notebook
[16:31] <MerliM> sobre o CHKDSK vc primeiro isolou o disco né ou seja deu boot na máquina com um outro sistema e deixou o disco digamos como slave ???
[16:31] <mac_> a mesma coisa
[16:31] <Logico> mac_, tira a poeira que até o windows deve funcionar (quer dizer, do jeito que ele consegue)
[16:31] <mac_> os mesmos erros
[16:32] <Logico> mac_, então as duas estão com zica
[16:32] <MerliM> Logico: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/home/seuuser/sistema_windows.img
[16:32] <MerliM> após isso
[16:32] <mac_> zica ta esse lixo de sistema
[16:32] <lambertini> MerliM, tentei dois dois jeitos, mas posso tentar novamente, agora estou no linux
[16:32] <mac_> e o cu da sua mãe
[16:32] <mac_> num fode
[16:32] <MerliM> testdisk ou photorec sistema_windows.img
[16:32] <MerliM> roda o sistema de recuperacao em CIMA do IMG e nao do disco bruto
[16:33] <lambertini> pera, deixa eu entender, um minuto
[16:33] <Logico> troll devia ter uma cólica de rins (no dois) por 10 minutos pra cada asneira que dissesse
[16:34] <hggdh> Logico: heh. Esta é, realmente, forte. Só que teve pedra nos rins sabe
[16:34] <Logico> hggdh, eu sei
[16:35] <hggdh> de qualquer forma, desde a entrada dele eu estava a esperar o trolling
[16:36] <Logico> por isso dei corda :)
[16:36] <MerliM> hggdh: qunado ele faloww c... kkk sabia tua reação hggdh kkkkk
[16:36] <lambertini> não tem um "CHKDSK"
[16:36] <lambertini> no linux neh?
[16:38] <LeandroLuiz> o hggdh é mto violento
[16:38] <MerliM> LeandroLuiz: o hggdh é xiitaa pow
[16:39] <LeandroLuiz> pois é.. radical..
[16:39] <LeandroLuiz> falta amor no coração
[16:39] <MerliM> lambertini: chkdsk é utilitario windows
[16:39] <hggdh> LeandroLuiz: ...
[16:39] <MerliM> até tem algo similar no linux atras do ntfs-3g porem EU nao curto usar
[16:40] <lambertini> sim, eu sei, queria saber se no linux tivesse algo parecido, estou tentando oliverio 3g mesmo
[16:40] <MerliM> ntfsfix -d -b /dev/sdX
[16:40] <MerliM> como usuario privilegiado
[16:41] <lambertini> certo
[16:41] <hggdh> MerliM: no Ubuntu, sempre via 'sudo'
[16:41] <MerliM> faz o dd mano depois que a particao ficar unreadble de fato sem chances alguma de recuperação não chora que nao te avisaram
[16:42] <MerliM> trabalha primeiro em cima da img dela com testdisk "dica de quem já passou por isso"
[16:42] <hggdh> (alias: para um prompt de root: sudo -i)
[16:42] <MerliM> hggdh: eu sei
[16:42] <MerliM> kk
[16:42] <MerliM> hggdh: porem obrigado
[16:43] <lambertini> MerliM, eu entendi seu ponto, eu só não entendi como converter o dd em imagem
[16:43] <lambertini> .img
[16:45] <MerliM> lambertini: eu te dei o comando mano, porem lá vai novamente vc sabe qual é o hd como ele ta reconhecido no linux /dev/sd????
[16:45] <hggdh> lambertini: algo no estilo: sudo dd if=/dev/sd? of=/um/directorio/arquivo.img
[16:45] <MerliM> MerliM | Logico: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/home/seuuser/sistema_windows.img
[16:45] <MerliM> vixi foi mal mandei pro logico
[16:45] <hggdh> lambertini: é bom, entretanto, que tenhas o espaço necessárrio
[16:46] <MerliM> Logico: perdao
[16:46] <lambertini> tah, então eu gero o dd depois uso esse comando ou não preciso gerar o dd no testdisk primeiro?
[16:46] <MerliM> lambertini: por exemplo se vc tiver um disco de 500 ele ira copiar bit a bit esses 500gb pra um arquivo.img
[16:47] <MerliM> mesmo que vc so use 10Gb desses 500
[16:47] <lambertini> vixi
[16:47] <MerliM> hggdh: por isso que disse pra ele copiar somente a particao danificada
[16:47] <lambertini> então não vai dar ..rs
[16:47] <MerliM> lambertini: tua partição sistema tinha qual tamanho??
[16:47] <hggdh> MerliM: eu estava a pensar apenas na partição danificada :-)
[16:47] <lambertini> 350g
[16:47] <Logico> MerliM, de novo, que isso não se repita
[16:48] <Logico> MerliM, hahahahahaha, tô zuando :D
[16:48] <MerliM> hggdh: eu tb vi agora que vc informou
[16:48] <Logico> MerliM, faz sentido a confusão, pensando em "unidade Lógica"
[16:48] <hggdh> é logico :-)
[16:49] <Logico> hggdh, :-)
Até eu...
[16:49] <MerliM> kkkkk fizeram o hggdh sorrir Aleluiaaa lol
[16:49] <MerliM> printado
[16:49] <Logico> hahahahahaha
[16:51] <MerliM> lambertini: ????
[16:51] <lambertini> MerliM, eu respondi tenho 350gigas na partição do windows, não vou ter espaço pra fazer
[16:51] <lambertini> li algo como powercfg /h off
[16:52] <lambertini> pra voltar o ruwindows
[16:52] <lambertini> mas diz que não existe esse comando no windowns no pronpt
[16:54] <elisboa> LeandroLuiz: que?
[16:54] <MerliM> cola o link aqui onde acho sobre
[16:54] <MerliM> ou entao pvt-me
[16:54] <LeandroLuiz> elisboa: oi?
[16:54] <elisboa> LeandroLuiz: você sorriu pra mim
[16:55] <LeandroLuiz> elisboa: S2
[16:55] <elisboa> achei fofo
[16:55] <LeandroLuiz> vc é um fofo
[16:55] <LeandroLuiz> lindo
[16:55] <hggdh> ...
[16:55] <LeandroLuiz> vc tb hggdh
[16:55] <hggdh> basta
[16:55] <LeandroLuiz> menos o kanazuchi
[16:56] <elisboa> #somostodosfofos
[16:56] <hggdh> segundo aviso: basta
[16:56] <elisboa> hggdh: que houve?
[16:56] <MerliM> LeandroLuiz: elisboa cs provocam o cara também manosss
[16:56] <LeandroLuiz> elisboa: olha a treta
[16:56] <LeandroLuiz> sem treta gente
[16:57] <LeandroLuiz> paz
[16:57] <elisboa> MerliM: provoquei como?
[16:57] <MerliM> LeandroLuiz: elisboa regras, canal tem regras poww
[16:57] <lambertini> quando monto a unidade com -o ro ele criou uma pasta chamada found.000 e lá tem todos os arquivos, em mil pastas com nomes todos zuados
[16:57] <hggdh> elisboa, LeandroLuiz: para conversas de fofura, usem outro canal
[16:57] <LeandroLuiz> ehauehua
[16:58] <LeandroLuiz> o MerliM é o novo contratado?
[16:58] <MerliM> que eu particularmente nao concordo porem tento me manter nelas pq gosto de ajudar o povo aqui
[16:58] <elisboa> hggdh: perdão, me desculpe, não sabia que o canal tinha regras anti-fofas
[16:58] <LeandroLuiz> ehuaheuaehau
[16:58] <eloi_carneiro> hoje tá dificil
[16:59] <hggdh> pronto.
[16:59] <MerliM> --'
[17:00] <lambertini> se eu acesso o dispositvo em ( somente leitura ) não vai mudar nada se eu acessar com permissão de escrita correto ?
[17:00] <lambertini> não vou conseguir ver os arquivos corretamente também
[17:00] <eloi_carneiro> lambertini, correto, vc vai apenas conseguir copiar os seus arquivos
[17:00] <hggdh> lambertini: se a partição foi montada apenas para leitura, não adianta tentar gravar
[17:00] <eloi_carneiro> lambertini, mas deveria conseguir visualizar os arquivos
[17:00] <lambertini> pois é, o windows zoou tudo, não tem nada em pastas, nem com nomes corretos
[17:01] <lambertini> eloi_carneiro, ele criou uma pasta chamada found.000 e lá tem todos os arquivos, em mil pastas com nomes todos zuados
[17:01] <eloi_carneiro> lambertini, o correto mesmo é tentar recuperar com alguma distro propria pra isso
[17:01] <eloi_carneiro> vc vai precisar de uma hd com espaço sobrando
[17:02] <lambertini> preciso achar, não sei o que vou fazer
[17:02] <eloi_carneiro> e um pendrive com a imagem da distro
[17:02] <eloi_carneiro> agora só não lembro o nome de nenhuma
[17:02] <eloi_carneiro> deixa eu pesquisar rapidao aqui
[17:02] <lambertini> ouvi dizer do manjaro, mas não achei nenhuma ferramenta dele que faça isso ainda pra testar
[17:03] <eloi_carneiro> o manjaro é um distro linux para uso geral
[17:03] <eloi_carneiro> que nem o ubuntu
[17:03] <eloi_carneiro> http://www.linuxdescomplicado.com.br/2013/09/8-distribuicoes-linux-live-que-todo.html
[17:03] <eloi_carneiro> o que estou falando pra vc
[17:04] <eloi_carneiro> é que tem distros voltadas para recuperação de hd
[17:04] <eloi_carneiro> que inclusive tem tutorial no site para te ajudar
[17:04] <eloi_carneiro> não que o ubuntu não consiga, mas vai estar com as soluções/informações fragmentadas pela internet
[17:06] <hggdh> lambertini: http://opensource.com/life/15/2/five-specialized-linux-distributions-computer-repair
[17:06] <MerliM> lambertini: alguma que tenha gparted, uma iso muito boa é do hiren's
[17:06] <eloi_carneiro> o SystemRescueCD uma vez salvou a minha vida, mas eu não salvei o link do artigo
[17:06] <MerliM> lambertini: recentemente perdi 350gb mais fiquei sussa nem me stresso mais
[17:07] <MerliM> tento nao pensar no perdido
[17:07] <ferreira> O hirens é ótimo +1
[17:10] <Lambertini> eloi_carneiro, desculpa, não vi o que falou por ultimo, meu notbook desligou
[17:10] <Lambertini> agora vim pro desktop
[17:12] <eloi_carneiro> Lambertini, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13503952/
[17:13] <Lambertini> Li aqui, obrigado eloi_carneiro
[17:15] <eloi_carneiro> hggdh, eu tenho uma duvida, o canal tem log? tipo, eu quero ver o que aconteceu quando estava off, tem algum lugar para visualizar?
[17:15] <hggdh> eloi_carneiro: sim, só um instante
[17:16] <MerliM> Lambertini: esse poweroff é comando do windows viu
[17:16] <Lambertini> MerliM, sim, eu sei
[17:16] <hggdh> eloi_carneiro: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:16] <MerliM> Lambertini: eu so quis dizer
[17:16] <kanazuchi> alguem pode me ajuda
[17:16] <kanazuchi> to rodando o poudriere
[17:16] <kanazuchi> porem quero modificar as options de um unico port
[17:17] <kanazuchi> qual o comando pra alterar esse unico port
[17:17] <kanazuchi> nao to conseguindo
[17:17] <kanazuchi> :S
[17:17] <eloi_carneiro> hggdh, rapaz dá pra fazer milagres com isso
[17:18] <rootsh> kanazuchi: esse poudriere não é do FreeBSD ?
[17:18] <Lambertini> sim, muito bom, já estou vendo o histórico pra saber o que eu disse
[17:19] <hggdh> rootsh: sim, é
[17:19] <rootsh> aqui é canal do ubuntu
[17:20] <kanazuchi> rootsh sim, é, mas só pode tirar duvida sobre o ubuntu aqui?
[17:21] <hggdh> kanazuchi: aqui terás suporte para Ubuntu (e, tudo dando certo, derivados). Mas freebsd é bem fora do tópico.
[17:22] <kanazuchi> ok, mas tenho certeza que tem gente aqui com conhecimento disso
[17:22] <kanazuchi> enfim
[17:22] <kanazuchi> ja vi pessoas falando de windows
[17:22] <kanazuchi> aqui
[17:22] <kanazuchi> :S
[17:22] <kanazuchi> neh MerliM
[17:23] <hggdh> kanazuchi: e?
[17:23] <kanazuchi> vcs só tiram duvidas de coisas faceis?
[17:24] <hggdh> kanazuchi: sempre podes procurar outro canal, onde tuas dúvidas difíceis sejam respondidas
[17:24] <hggdh> (ou um canal sobre, digamos, freebsd)
[17:24] <MerliM> kanazuchi: desde que eu conheça e entenda do assunto sem problemas e falamos de partição nao do windows em si ^^
[17:25] <kanazuchi> gente, corror
[17:26] <Lambertini> Pensei em deletar a partição e tentatar recuperar despois com o testdisk alguma precaução contra isso ?
[17:27] <hggdh> Lambertini: depois de deletar a partição (que já está danificada), tua melhor opção é esquecer.
[17:27] <Lambertini> ahha, tah certo, obrigado pelo concelho hggdh
[17:29] <MerliM> kanazuchi: seria isso ->>> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/configure-options-in-make-conf.40293/
[17:29] <hggdh> falem de freebsd em outro canal, por favor
[17:30] <MerliM> hggdh: so indiquei o link e finitooo
[17:33] <Lambertini> acho que vou tentar pegar o backup mesmo do hd que eu formatei, acho que vai ser mais fácil
[17:36] <MerliM> deixa eu entender
[17:38] <MerliM> são no caso 2 disco, certo????? Um você fez o backup dele no seu computador dentro da particao sistema formatou instalou tudo so que na hora de voltar os dados o teu computador danificou a particao sistema???
[17:38] <eloi_carneiro> Lambertini, vc viu o link
[17:38] <eloi_carneiro> que o hggdh passou
[17:38] <eloi_carneiro> com o log do irc do ubuntu
[17:38] <eloi_carneiro> ?
[17:38] <eloi_carneiro> manda isso aqui no google site:http://irclogs.ubuntu.com The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state
[17:38] <MerliM> Lambertini: no cd do hiren's existe um utilitario que recupera tudo e na forma da estrutura de diretorios que o sistema estava, nao sei se repara o boot, porem a estrutura do disco toda é recuperada.
[17:39] <Lambertini> eloi_carneiro, vi sim
[17:39] <Lambertini> MerliM, pô, legal vou ver
[17:39] <eloi_carneiro> vc vai procurar em todos os canais do ubuntu, não apenas no Brasil, sobre o seu problema
[17:39] <eloi_carneiro> em 2014 mês 10
[17:40] <eloi_carneiro> teve um cara com o mesmo problema que o seu
[17:40] <eloi_carneiro> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/10/28/%23ubuntu-br.html
[17:40] <MerliM> eloi_carneiro: boaaa
[17:40] <eloi_carneiro> mas o comando ntfsfix resolveu
[17:40] <eloi_carneiro> mas esse é apenas o 3 link
[17:40] <Lambertini> comigo não deu certo
[17:40] <eloi_carneiro> não consegui ver tudo ainda
[17:40] <Lambertini> o ntfsfix
[17:40] <Lambertini> e o ckh também não, ele não encontra nenhum problema no hd
[17:41] <eloi_carneiro> mas enfim, com esse hack do google vc pesquisa rapidão se alguém em todos os canais já teve e encontrou um solução para o seu problema
[17:41] <eloi_carneiro> fica a dica ;-)
[17:42] <Lambertini> eloi_carneiro, obrigado
[17:42] <Lambertini> vou testar o hiren agora, vou ver como funciona
[17:42] <eloi_carneiro> tranquilo, precisando estamos aqui, espero que vc encontre uma solução para o seu problema
[17:44] <Lambertini> eloi_carneiro, obrigado, também espero, porque fiz o backup de um hd, e os dados é de um cliente, não é meu, eu não esperava dar pau na partição do windows, essa porqueira
[17:44] <MerliM> Lambertini: mano oia ai usando os logs que o eloi_carneiro garrimpou achei isso numa busca rapida
[17:44] <MerliM> http://itsfoss.com/solve-ntfs-mount-problem-ubuntu-windows-8-dual-boot/
[17:44] <MerliM> marcado como solved
[17:44] <Lambertini> deixa eu ver
[17:45] <MerliM> eloi_carneiro: esse "hack do google" funciona no duckduckgo em carater de informação pra vc mano :)
[17:45] <Lambertini> óia
[17:45] <Lambertini> MerliM, valeu pelo link
[17:48] <eloi_carneiro> MerliM, bacana, não sabia
[17:49] <MerliM> Lambertini: eloi_carneiro A string de busca tá aqui via duckduckgo ----> https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=The+NTFS+partition+is+in+an+unsafe+state.+Please+resume+and+shutdown++windows+fully+%28no+hibernation+or+fast+restarting%29%2C+or+mount+the+volume
[17:49] <eloi_carneiro> isso que é colaboração, será que o chefe tá feliz :D
[17:49] <Lambertini> MerliM, li o tópico, o dele é diferente do meu, o problema dele só da no linux, mas ele consegue entrar no windows, o meu problema é que nem no windows eu consigo entrar
[17:50] <MerliM> Lambertini: mano pelo que li por alto ele teve o mesmo problema que vc por conta do tal hibernate e faster boot do windows e com isso a particao dele ficou inacessivel no linux TAMBEM
[17:50] <eloi_carneiro> MerliM, mas no duckduckgo vc não usou o "site:endereco_do_site"
[17:50] <MerliM> tanto que ele diz ntfsfix /dev/sdXY
[17:50] <Lambertini> bom, eu toh passando um programa de recovery no hd do cliente, se eu conseguir, recuperar os dados dele, eu vou arrancar essa partição zoada dai
[17:51] <Lambertini> MerliM, então, mas olha lá a solução dele foi entrar no windows
[17:51] <Lambertini> o meu não entra
[17:51] <MerliM> se fosse aqui pra mim seria sudo ntfs /dev/sdb1
[17:51] <MerliM> particao windows apos isso o boot no windows voltou e ele manda desativar tais opçoes para q nao se repita
[17:51] <MerliM> eloi_carneiro: sim do jeito que vc colou no canal
[17:52] <MerliM> eu copiei e joguei no duckduckgo se ele traduziu para a forma que ele entende melhor ainda :D
[17:52] <Lambertini> então, eu já fiz isso, tentei
[17:52] <Lambertini> ele boota, tenta recuperação do windows
[17:53] <Lambertini> e da tela azul com alguma mensagem tipo 0x00000e
[17:53] <Lambertini> coisa assim
[17:53] <eloi_carneiro> Lambertini, se vc conseguir abrir um prompt
[17:53] <eloi_carneiro> vc pode tentar colocar 2 hds
[17:53] <eloi_carneiro> e fazer backup pelo prompt
[17:53] <MerliM> mano so foi possivel entrar no windows APOS no linux rodar o ntfsfix na particao do WINDOWS
[17:53] <MerliM> quando se tornou legivel pro linux ele rebootou
[17:54] <Lambertini> MerliM, eu vi, eu entendi ..rs Mas eu fiz isso também, o problema é que ntfsfix não funcionou aqui pra deixa-lo legivel
[17:55] <MerliM> Lambertini: essa mensagem coisa assim é muitooo importante pra resolucao do problema reinicia pelo windows e pressiona F8 no menu suspenso escolhe nao reiniciar em caso de falha ao assim ele vai parar na BSOD ou tela azul anota o erro code e busca
[17:55] <MerliM> com o erro code é bem mais facil
[17:56] <MerliM> ao leia algo***
[17:56] <Lambertini> pera ai
[18:00] <Lambertini> vou tentar uma coisa de cada vez, MerliM, eloi_carneiro e hggdh muito obrigado vocês pela paciência comigo e tentar me ajudar agradeço muito mesmo pelo suporte, vou testar algumas coisas como o hiren também e jaja retorno, espero que consiga resolver, se não volto com mais dúvidas ou para agradecer ainda mais :D
[18:00] <hggdh> Lambertini: boa sorte
[18:00] <Lambertini> hggdh, obrigado!
[18:01] <MerliM> ok
[18:11] <anoid> Gente, por falar em Hirens, qual a versão vcs recomendam? A ultima mesmo. Da última vez que baixei a mais atual senti falta de boas ferramentas que existiam na versão antiga que eu usava a 10.6
[18:12] <anoid> A última mesmo? ****
[18:18] * elisboa lol
[18:22] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[18:23] <lynxer10_> boa tarde mirqui
[18:23] <mirqui> blza , :)
[18:24] <mirqui> vou passar para o outro pc
[18:26] <MerliM> pessoa otimo link ------> http://www.tutorialspoint.com/
[18:36] <mirqui> oi , voltei :)
[19:25] <kanazuchi> hirens eh linux?
[19:25] <MerliM> cara creio que seja parte do live-boot rodando num kernel linux
[19:26] <MerliM> porem com uma imagem de windows xp rodando sob ele pois ele consegue executar .bat
[19:26] <MerliM> e rodar exe sem wine porem é o que eu acho
[19:40] <LeandroLuiz> oie MerliM
[19:42] <MerliM> LeandroLuiz: ola
[20:37] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos
[20:38] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem :) ?
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> sim mirqui
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> e tu
[20:38] <nuno_nunes> tirando um acidente de carro
[20:38] <mirqui> aqui vamos todos bem graças a deus :)
[20:39] <mirqui> opa , vc se acidentou ?
[20:39] <nuno_nunes> sim
[20:39] <mirqui> se machucou muito ?
[20:40] <nuno_nunes> eu nao tive nada
[20:40] <mirqui> machucou alguêm ?
[20:41] <nuno_nunes> nao
[20:42] <nuno_nunes> eu ia sozinho :)
[20:42] <mirqui> então está tudo bem ,
[20:42] <nuno_nunes> o carro é que não
[20:42] <mirqui> foi só prejuizo material ?
[20:44] <nuno_nunes> o carro ficou inutilzavel :D
[20:44] <mirqui> bom , vc saiu no lucro , não se feriu nem feriu nimguém
[20:45] <mirqui> vc tem seguro ?
[20:45] <nuno_nunes> tenho
[20:45] <nuno_nunes> aqui é obrigatório
[20:45] <nuno_nunes> mas eu não fui contra ninguem
[20:45] <nuno_nunes> fui contra a um pinheiro :|
[20:46] <mirqui> então , é só uma incomodação com o seguro , nada mais
[20:47] <nuno_nunes> o seguro nao arranja o seguro
[20:47] <nuno_nunes> :|
[20:47] <nuno_nunes> o carro
[20:47] <nuno_nunes> :S
[20:51] <mirqui> como o seguro não arranja o seguro ? , ele não cobre o seu prejuiso com o estrago do carro ?
[20:52] <nuno_nunes> nao
[20:52] <nuno_nunes> pk é contra terceiros
[20:52] <nuno_nunes> :|
[20:53] <mirqui> bom , menos mal , igual , vc não se machucou nem machucou nimguém
[20:54] <nuno_nunes> pois
[20:57] <mirqui> preciso ir , boa sorte com o carro , acha um mecânico que não cobre muito caro :)
[20:57] <mirqui> até
[21:39] <Ghuto> Os navegadores estão consumindo muita ram após certo tempo abertos, tanto o Chrome quanto o Firefox. Alguém pode ajudar?
[21:53] <nuno_nunes> ola
[21:53] <nuno_nunes> alguem está a precisar de suporte
[21:55] <Ghuto> Os navegadores estão consumindo muita ram após certo tempo abertos, tanto o Chrome quanto o Firefox. O que fazer?
[21:58] <nuno_nunes> Ghuto, já viu que os extensões instaladas
[21:59] <Ghuto> nuno_nunes, resetei os navegadores, o consumo continua alto.
[22:00] <nuno_nunes> quantas abas tens abertas
[22:01] <nuno_nunes> o meu so com uma aba ocupa 120 mb deram
[22:01] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, boas
[22:02] <nuno_nunes> duas 155 mb
[22:02] <nuno_nunes> :D
[22:02] <nuno_nunes> no firefox
[22:02] <Ghuto> agora o firefox está normal. 7 abas, 469 mb. Mas, com o tempo, o sistema todo trava
[22:02] <nuno_nunes> RAM: 1286MB / 3545MB
[22:02] <nuno_nunes> Ghuto, que grafica tens
[22:02] <nuno_nunes> :)
[22:03] <nuno_nunes> faça este comando
[22:03] <nuno_nunes> lspci
[22:03] <MerliM> Ghuto: por isso uso palemoon
[22:03] <jaqent> Ghuto: as abas que vc abre tb influenciam, quero dizer os sites em si
[22:03] <MerliM> firefox abre uma vez na vida outra na morte so pra testar 1 site pronto
[22:03] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, eu tenho usado o vivaldi
[22:05] <nuno_nunes> duas abas 130 mb de ram
[22:06] <Ghuto> bom, resetei o Firefox. Fiz uma limpeza no SO com o BleachBit. Está tudo normal até agora. Se voltar a acontecer algo, voltarei aqui. Obrigado!
[22:08] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, eu estou a usar o flash 19 no firefox no linux :p
[22:14] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:21] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, sabias que dava para fazer isso
[22:22] <nuno_nunes> bem vindo eduardo necessita de suporte
[22:23] <Eduardo> não, obrigado
[22:33] <nuno_nunes> bem vindo halfaehd
[22:33] <halfaehd> ;)
[22:33] <nuno_nunes> se alguem precisar de suporte e eu estiver on é só me chamar aqui
[22:57] <MerliM> nuno_nunes: nao uso mais flash pra nada
[22:58] <MerliM> nuno_nunes: site precisa de flash pra funcionar nao tem alternativa em html5 eu fecho ele
[22:58] <MerliM> sigo em frente
[22:58] <MerliM> nuno_nunes: porem grato pela informação
[22:58] <nuno_nunes> eu ativei uma opção para osso
[22:58] <nuno_nunes> isso
[23:15] <brum> Olá galera
[23:16] <astroo-> ola
[23:16] <brum> Boa noite
[23:16] <brum> Alguém sabe me responder pq o Multisystem e SSRR não funciona no Ubuntu 15.10?
[23:18] <astroo-> brum Algu�m sabe me responder pq o Multisystem e SSRR n�o funciona no Ubuntu 15.10?
[23:19] <brum> Já tiraram todos aqueles efeitos que encantavam no Ubuntu através do compiz, agora nem os bons apps estão funcionando mais
[23:20] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[23:20] <brum> Vixi! se continuar assim vai fica basicona
[23:22] <brum> Gravadores USB tudo bugado
[23:23] <brum> Não tem mais nenhum que funfe
[23:23] <brum> nem o Yumi
[23:23] <brum> Nossa, ta virando a pior distro linux
[23:24] <brum> E o mint ta indo junto
[23:24] <brum> Será que a Cannonical acha que o povo só vive de navegar na internet?
[23:24] <astroo-> o mal de nao haver 1 linux forte
[23:25] <brum> As comunidades não estão nem aí
[23:26] <brum> só querem fazer refisefuqui
[23:26] <astroo-> ve o privado
[23:27] <brum> Já tentei tudo
[23:27] <brum> dois dias pregado no pc pra achar os problemas
[23:27] <brum> a solução dos problemas
[23:28] <astroo-> eu so dou 1 força ao mundo linux
[23:28] <brum> Testei Debian e meu drivers de rede deram zica
[23:28] <brum> OpenSuse não instala drive de video
[23:29] <brum> Ubuntu todo bugado os programas
[23:29] <astroo-> brum ve a janela do privado
[23:29] <brum> Já contei 14 programas que estão bugados no 15.10
[23:30] <brum> vlw, fui! Tô voltando para o Windows
[23:50] <jaqent> rage quit ẍ
[23:56] <MerliM> vixi O.o
[23:56] <MerliM> hggdh: fez o que mano????
[23:58] <Kadsh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41gcnVnW1fs
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[18:17] <raso> !tell milobit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk074XdlGxw ;)
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[00:16] <mhall119> nhaines: I think dpm had to re-create it to change the country it was set to
[00:16] <mhall119> so one is old and should be removed
[01:29] <coolbhavi> !lococouncil
[01:30] <wxl> oooh bhavi's alive
[01:30] <coolbhavi> guys my nick is not able to join in :(
[01:30] <wxl> hm
[01:30] <coolbhavi> #ubuntu-lococouncil
[01:30] <wxl> is your nick registered?
[01:30] <coolbhavi> yes
[01:31] <wxl> are you identified?
[01:31] <coolbhavi> hang on
[01:31] <wxl> you certainly don't have a cloak
[01:32] <wxl> btw coolbhavi go vote on those bugs when you get a chance :)
[01:33] <coolbhavi> yes m upto speed on whats goin on in the lists
[01:33] <wxl> ko
[01:33] <coolbhavi> hangon ll identify myself and be back
[01:36] <coolbhavi> ah crazy office proxy sucks
[01:37] <wxl> coolbhavi: you can't identify because of the proxy?
[01:38] <coolbhavi> I think so freenode is not taking my password in
[01:38] <wxl> well that's essential in order to get in the channel
[02:04] <coolbhavi> wxl, voted on ubuntu-myanmar bug
[02:40] <tsimonq2> !lococouncil~
[02:40] <tsimonq2> !lococouncil
[02:40] <tsimonq2> oh, just curious :)
[03:25] <ahoneybun> tsimonq2: I heard that once the UCC gets voted in then the LC will be updated as well
[05:02] <bigwolf78> Hello?
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[13:00] <marcus> hi all. does one know how i can figure out the exact number of official ubuntu members in our loco team?
[13:20] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun: hm?
[23:27] <tsimonq2> wxl: do we have a Washington LoCo that is verified and active?
[23:28] <wxl> tsimonq2: DC or state?
[23:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: State, Washington Satte, that is why I pinged you, if that answer is no, you will know why
[23:28] <tsimonq2> *stste
[23:28] <tsimonq2> OMG
[23:28] <tsimonq2> *state
[23:28] <tsimonq2> there
[23:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yes?
[23:31] <wxl> tsimonq2: you keeping information from me? :)
[23:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: is that a yes or a no?
[23:31] <wxl> tsimonq2: you can answer your own questions here http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/#North%20America
[23:32] <tsimonq2> well :P
[23:32] <wxl> suffice it to say there is one
[23:32] <wxl> but no
[23:32] <wxl> not verified
[23:32] <tsimonq2> active?
[23:32] <wxl> not really
[23:32] <wxl> i mean there's VERY active people in washington
[23:33] <wxl> there was some sort of controversy when someone tried to create a pacific northwest loco
[23:33] <wxl> kind of put a damper on both oregon and washingtton
[23:34] <tsimonq2> wxl: I was just wondering if there was a LoCo presence in LinuxCon North America 2016
[23:34] <wxl> wth is that?
[23:34] <wxl> can't possibly compare to LinuxFest Northwest, which Oregon goes up to
[23:35] <tsimonq2> that too
[23:35] <wxl> i've never heard of LinuxCon tho
[23:35] <tsimonq2> because I have heard about a sh*tton of conferences
[23:36] <wxl> LinuxCon looks like it's down in CA so more likely a question for nhaines
[23:36] <wxl> and/or pleia2
[23:36] <wxl> oh wait
[23:36] <wxl> no that's the "collaboration summit"
[23:37] <wxl> the official thingy is in Toronto
[23:37] <wxl> so that's someone else entirely
[23:37] <tsimonq2> oh wow
[23:37] <tsimonq2> ok :)
[23:37] <tsimonq2> just wondered
[23:38] <wxl> kind of interesting tho
[23:39] <genii> Toronto, what?
[23:39] <genii> ( thats where I am )
[23:44] <tsimonq2> wxl: anyways, updating you on the Wisconsin LoCo team whereabouts, meeting next Tuesday, on YT here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WsIqPM8kPE , new logo for the team(done by our art guy, named Alex, a year older then me :D) which looks AWESOME(among other things that will be on the wiki page soon), forwarding the Kernel Team and the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter to the list every week, also, lately I have been looking at the various systems
[23:45] <tsimonq2> and that we are active :D
[23:45] <wxl> good job!
[23:45] <tsimonq2> although we ARE a little shorthanded
[23:45] <tsimonq2> wxl: but overall, this is working well so far
[23:45] <wxl> keep spreading the word and ht at will get resolved i'm sure :)
[23:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: I would HIGHLY encourage you to either watch the livestream when it is happening, or watch over it afterwards
[23:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: as I have said before, we are looking at a facilitative oligarchy
[23:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: everything we plan on discussing is here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1022/detail/
[23:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: gonna be awesome, can't wait :D
[23:48] <wxl> good job tsimonq2
[23:49] <tsimonq2> wxl: so that is about it, if you have any suggestions/questions/comments/concerns, please let me know! :D
[23:49] <tsimonq2> I did most of the work, although Alex was pretty active with artwork
[23:51] <tsimonq2> wxl: well, that is all for my little informal report of how our LoCo is doing :D
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-desktop
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[04:29] <pitti> Good morning
[05:34] <hikiko> hi :-)
[06:47] <didrocks> good morning
[06:48] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[06:49] <didrocks> bonjour pitti :)
[06:50] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:50] <seb128> hey pitti, wie gehts?
[06:50] <seb128> re didrocks
[06:50] <didrocks> re seb128
[06:50] <pitti> hey seb128! gut, danke! und Dir?
[06:50] <seb128> pitti, auch gut, danke
[06:51] <seb128> a bit tired this morning though
[06:51] <pitti> j'ai me levé à 5:30, c'est trop tôt -- mais, beacoup de temps calm dans le matin :)
[06:51] <pitti> like for unscrewing debhelper before everyone else starts uploading again :)
[06:53] <seb128> hehe, I saw that on -changes
[06:53] <pitti> but I didn't manage to break devel, just -proposed; so no fun for xenial users
[06:54] * pitti gives britney a cookie
[06:56] <seb128> :-)
[07:07] <hikiko> Hey pitti didrocks seb128
[07:07] <seb128> hey hikiko! how are you?
[07:07] <hikiko> I am fine :-) and you?
[07:08] <didrocks> hey hikiko
[07:08] <hikiko> Bonjour Didier
[07:15] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[08:52] <Trevinho> Morning
[08:54] <didrocks> good morning Trevinho
[08:55] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[08:55] <seb128> how are you?
[08:58] <willcooke> morning all
[09:01] <willcooke> larsu, I'm having trouble with borders on GeditCloseButton not doing what they are told, specifically radius. But.. it looks like I can set the border on the GtkImage of the close button and that works better. Is that OK?
[09:01] <seb128> hey willcooke
[09:01] <seb128> how are you?
[09:01] <didrocks> morning willcooke
[09:02] <seb128> willcooke, larsu was around until like 10 minutes ago, he went to the gym
[09:02] <willcooke> aint no thing, it can wait
[09:02] <seb128> willcooke, did you copy what the gedit-adwaita is doing?
[09:02] <seb128> I didn't pay attention to the borders much but that looked better to me that the non themed ones
[09:02] <seb128> well the ones in the sidebar documents list at least
[09:02] <seb128> you might be speaking of tabs or something else
[09:02] <Laney> morning
[09:03] <willcooke> seb128, yeah got that all sorted, just trying to match the theme as closely as possible from the old one specifically when you hover over a close button you get a border
[09:04] <seb128> k
[09:04] <seb128> hey Laney! how are you? getting over the cold?
[09:04] <willcooke> seb128, hrm, but good point - adawita is doing what I want actually
[09:05] <willcooke> seb128, also I've finished copying the bits over from Adwaita gedit to our theme, just need to get these close buttons done and we're good to go
[09:05] <seb128> \o/
[09:05] <seb128> let me know when you have that up
[09:05] <willcooke> will do
[09:05] <seb128> I can test it there and then start on the landing
[09:06] <Trevinho> seb128: so, so...
[09:06] <Trevinho> Hey didrocks
[09:06] <seb128> Trevinho, sooooo
[09:07] <Laney> seb128: it is more of a cough now
[09:07] <Laney> sooooooooooo I hope that is progress?!?!?!
[09:07] <didrocks> Laney: happy that you start feeling better! :)
[09:09] <willcooke> Laney, can you remind me what, if anything, we decided about libinput?
[09:10] <Laney> willcooke: that we thought tjaalton was handling it...
[09:10] <Laney> or would
[09:11] <willcooke> ah yes, and he said something along the lines of "it's pretty much necessary for the future, so we should try and get it in for 16.04"
[09:11] <willcooke> $customer asking about whether libinput would be in 16.04
[09:12] <didrocks> $customer is a customer with some dollars? :)
[09:13] <willcooke> :)
[09:14] <Laney> I'm sure that either way the OEM build would be able to have it
[09:14] * Laney is using libinput driver already
[09:14] <tjaalton> xserver-xorg-input-libinput is in the archive, but in universe as nothing depends on it yet
[09:14] <Laney> hey tjaalton
[09:14] <willcooke> ah cool, thanks tjaalton
[09:14] <tjaalton> once the unity input config capplet supports it we can include it via xserver-input-all
[09:15] <willcooke> and then it would be available to anything that wanted to use it?
[09:15] <seb128> tjaalton, it replaces other drivers right?
[09:15] <seb128> are Debian/Fedora using it?
[09:15] <willcooke> Trevinho, or maybe seb128 can you comment on input config capplet ^^ ?
[09:15] <seb128> would we loose any feature by switching?
[09:15] <tjaalton> seb128: fedora is
[09:16] <tjaalton> no
[09:16] <tjaalton> it doesn't support wacom yet, but that's coming in libinput itself
[09:16] <tjaalton> but it would replace evdev and synaptics as a start
[09:16] <seb128> willcooke, well basically it means updating u-s-d/u-c-c code by importing what GNOME did, our versions are quite different so it's non trivial but still doable
[09:17] <seb128> tjaalton, how risky is the change?
[09:17] <seb128> like is likely to make trackpads not work correctly?
[09:17] <tjaalton> seb128: I think it's an overall improvement
[09:17] <seb128> or edge scrolling or some things work differently?
[09:17] <tjaalton> all work
[09:17] <seb128> k
[09:17] <seb128> do you have any cycle to backport the libinput conversion in u-s-d/u-c-c?
[09:18] <seb128> or is that something we should look at
[09:18] <seb128> I've that on my todolist but that list is long
[09:18] <tjaalton> I'm working on lts-wily backports atm
[09:18] <seb128> I'm also trying to backport the new wacom code from g-s-d, same story
[09:19] <tjaalton> the u-s-d/u-s-c fork is for good?
[09:20] <seb128> yes
[09:20] <seb128> well, for good ... at least for the coming LTS
[09:20] <seb128> I doubt it's relevant in unity8
[09:21] <tjaalton> no way to configure things?-)
[09:21] <seb128> in unity8?
[09:21] <Laney> there's a new settings app there
[09:21] <seb128> let's keep that for another day
[09:21] <tjaalton> hehe
[09:21] <tjaalton> ok
[09:21] <seb128> but yeah, there is ubuntu-system-settings
[09:21] <seb128> but it's limited, though there is ongoing work to make it fit for convergence
[09:22] <seb128> but that's not really important for the LTS/libinput discussion
[09:22] <tjaalton> right
[09:22] <tjaalton> anyway, I think debian would be ripe to do the switch, need to ask other folks on the team
[09:23] <tjaalton> they don't have unity to worry about :)
[09:23] <seb128> GNOME was talking about dropping the non-libinput code
[09:23] <seb128> so Debian is eventually going to follow by just updating
[09:26] <tjaalton> ok
[09:31] <seb128> tjaalton, what happens today if we start using libinput?
[09:31] <seb128> reading https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740604 and looking to git, I'm not even sure we need u-s-d/u-c-c changes?
[09:32] <seb128> ah, it says they decided against the wrapper
[09:32] <seb128> so GNOME moved the handling in g-s
[09:32] <tjaalton> so it seems
[09:33] <tjaalton> I guess migrating now in xenial wouldn't be too dramatic
[09:33] <tjaalton> but at least all the forcepads I have need libinput, synaptics just doesn't work
[09:34] <tjaalton> or needs too much pressure to move the cursor
[09:34] <tjaalton> but the kernel driver is lacking something so right-button emulation isn't working, making forcepads still somewhat crippled..
[09:34] <tjaalton> but that's not related to the migration
[09:35] <seb128> yeah
[09:35] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:36] * pitti missed you coming "in"
[09:36] <pitti> Laney: ignore the autopkgtest mass failure emails, dealt with (that was me breaking debhelper)
[09:40] <seb128> tjaalton, willcooke, I think we would need to update u-s-d/u-c-c to use the new api/property for libinput (not idea what changed but reading the GNOME bug it seems the way to change configs probably changed)
[09:40] <willcooke> and then for synaptics, we just keep using the old drivers?
[09:41] <tjaalton> no libinput replaces the synaptics driver
[09:42] <willcooke> I R Confused. So with libinput people with synaptics touchpads would have a bad time?
[09:42] <tjaalton> no
[09:43] <tjaalton> libinput replaces evdev and synaptics
[09:43] <willcooke> ohh
[09:43] <willcooke> so people with forcepads would be happier with libinput
[09:43] <willcooke> and everyone else probably wouldn't notice
[09:43] <Laney> would you remove those drivers?
[09:43] <tjaalton> probably
[09:43] <tjaalton> or my hw is just funky so that synaptics doesn't work well
[09:43] <Laney> or have code to handle both?
[09:44] <willcooke> how do we turn "probably" in to something more concrete that we can rely on for an LTS? Is it a case of spending more time looking in to it?
[09:44] <tjaalton> no -evdev and -synaptics would still be around for some time, but probably gone before release
[09:45] <tjaalton> more folks using it. I know there have been issues with pointer acceleration code, but that's fixed by now I think
[09:45] <seb128> ok, so let's supposed we drop evdev and synaptics
[09:45] <tjaalton> libinput 1.2 will be released soon
[09:45] <seb128> and put libinput
[09:45] <seb128> what happens if we do no other change
[09:45] <seb128> if I go to u-c-c and change e.g edge scrolling
[09:45] <seb128> would that setting work?
[09:46] <tjaalton> not sure it would even show that
[09:46] <seb128> so we would regress functionnalities?
[09:46] <tjaalton> on the config side yes
[09:47] <tjaalton> two-finger scroll still works :)
[09:47] <tjaalton> at least here it just shows primary-button and double-click settings
[09:47] <tjaalton> nothing else
[09:48] <seb128> so my touchpad has edge scrolling and I like that better than 2 fingers scrolling
[09:48] <seb128> with libinput I wouldn't be able to use edge scrolling anymore?
[09:48] <tjaalton> dunno
[09:48] <tjaalton> it's easy to test, just install the driver
[09:49] <tjaalton> you can configure it with xinput
[09:51] <Laney> oh, missed pitti's hello - hi!
[09:51] <davmor2> laney he was in stealth greeting mode
[09:52] <seb128> tjaalton, seems the current code does XChangeDeviceProperty() calls to change settings
[09:52] <seb128> andXGetDeviceProperty()
[09:52] <seb128> rc = XGetDeviceProperty (GDK_DISPLAY_XDISPLAY (gdk_display_get_default ()), xdevice,
[09:52] <seb128> prop, 0, 2, False,
[09:52] <seb128> XA_INTEGER, &act_type, &act_format, &nitems,
[09:52] <seb128> &bytes_after, &data);
[09:53] <seb128> willcooke, so I guess it's currently not in our backlog, we don't have anyone understand the pro/con and the work needed
[09:53] <seb128> if that's something we should work on we need to create an item for it and investigate those
[09:54] <seb128> so not on the path to happen unless we decide it should
[09:54] <seb128> tjaalton, ^
[09:55] <tjaalton> ok
[09:57] <willcooke> thanks seb128 tjaalton
[09:57] <willcooke> yeah, sounds like there is a lot of work to be done before we know
[09:57] <willcooke> maybe I can find another team to look in to that
[09:57] <seb128> I'm unsure about "lot"
[09:58] <willcooke> non-trivial then :)
[09:58] <seb128> right
[09:58] <seb128> brb, restarting without evdev/synaptic drivers and with libinput one, just to see
[09:59] <tjaalton> you don't need to remove anything btw
[09:59] <andyrock> willcooke: I need 5 more minutes
[09:59] <seb128> it might confuse u-c-c to think it can configure things where it can't
[10:00] <willcooke> andyrock, oki no worries - ping when you are ready and we can join the HO ( <--- Trevinho, hikiko, seb128)
[10:01] <andyrock> waiting for the lecture break but the the teacher is kind of excited maximizing a log likelihood :D
[10:01] <Trevinho> willcooke: I'm in
[10:02] <willcooke> andyrock, :)
[10:04] <hikiko> willcooke, sec
[10:04] <hikiko> sorry
[10:06] <willcooke> andyrock, we're in the HO and we will get started
[10:07] <seb128> willcooke, tjaalton, so installed libinput, removed evdev/synaptic, restarted session, my edge scrolling isn't working anymore
[10:07] <seb128> the touchpad section of the settings also vanished
[10:07] <seb128> no "tap to click"
[10:07] <seb128> or "edge scrolling"
[10:07] <seb128> so yeah, needs porting to the new api
[10:08] <tjaalton> seb128: you don't need to remove anything, libinput just overrides the xorg.conf.d snippets evdev/synaptics provide
[10:08] <seb128> tjaalton, right, I just wanted to be a clean state to not confused the UI controls
[10:08] <seb128> to be on*
[10:08] <seb128> unsure what they check
[10:08] <tjaalton> sure
[10:09] <Laney> These have to be updated to look at the libinput xinput properties no?
[10:09] <andyrock> willcooke: looking for the link
[10:10] <Laney> Currently it looks for "Synaptics foo" for many foo
[10:10] <Laney> but xinput list-props x shows a lot of "libinput foo"
[10:13] <seb128> Laney, right, that's basically what I was saying/confirming
[10:13] <seb128> needs code change
[10:13] <seb128> and GNOME didn't do those for us since they moved the handling to g-s
[10:13] <Laney> they put it in gnome-screenshot?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[10:13] <seb128> :-)
[10:20] <seb128> libinput edge scrolling sucks :-(
[10:20] <seb128> I enabled it with "xinput set-prop 16 "libinput Scroll Method Enabled" 0 1 0"
[10:20] <seb128> but it's practically impossible to use on my latitude
[10:22] <tjaalton> how?
[10:23] <seb128> dunno, I've to have my finger really close from the border and press more than before
[10:23] <seb128> and it only detects it as a scrolling half of the time
[10:23] <seb128> http://who-t.blogspot.nl/2015/03/why-libinput-doesnt-support-edge.html
[10:23] <seb128> that is deprecated but it explained by libinput was not doing edgescrolling/how it conflicts with other features
[10:24] <tjaalton> yep
[10:24] <seb128> so maybe they detection/logic is different from what older drivers are doing
[10:24] <seb128> in any case it's harder to use on my machine
[10:25] <tjaalton> could just be a bug
[10:25] <seb128> yeah
[10:25] <tjaalton> seems fine on mine
[10:25] <seb128> well, it just confirms that it's not a trivial no-change swap
[10:25] <seb128> we are introducing new code and different behaviours
[10:25] <seb128> and different set of bugs
[10:25] <seb128> anyway, enough playing with that
[10:26] <seb128> it's enough to confirm that changing involves some wokr
[10:26] <willcooke> thanks a lot seb128, tjaalton, Laney
[10:26] <seb128> going to let willcooke&other managers decide if it's high enough that we need to budget cycles for it
[10:26] <seb128> willcooke, yw!
[10:26] <seb128> brb, rebooting
[10:27] <tjaalton> well, perhaps keep evdev/synaptics around and make it easy to switch back
[10:27] <Laney> who's going to do the u-c-c/u-s-d work?
[10:28] <willcooke> no one right now
[10:31] <Laney> I mean in theory
[10:31] <seb128> back
[10:32] <Laney> feel like it's sort of being glossed over but that is tough
[10:32] <Laney> yo
[10:32] <seb128> I missed some context I guess
[10:32] <Laney> I tried edge and it seems okay here, hate that mode though :P
[10:32] <willcooke> well, I imagine someone in our team would work on it
[10:32] <willcooke> seb128, <Laney> who's going to do the u-c-c/u-s-d work?
[10:34] <seb128> Laney, that was my comment about "up to the managers to decide how much of a priority it is and what resources get allocated to it"
[10:38] <Laney> ok
[10:39] <Laney> if we do no work then OEMs can still include it and preset their defaults in xorg.conf snippets btw, just users won't be able to configure it with a gui
[10:39] <seb128> right
[10:45] <willcooke> Laney, yeah good point. If they do want it on in their images, I'm hoping that we can get them to commit to some of the work as well
[10:46] <Laney> willcooke: yeah - the feature tests mean that we don't expose any *broken* UI
[10:46] <Laney> - g_bit_nth_lsf@Base 2.12.0
[10:46] <Laney> - g_bit_nth_msf@Base 2.12.0
[10:46] <Laney> - g_bit_storage@Base 2.12.0
[10:46] <Laney> +#MISSING: 2.47.2-1# g_bit_nth_lsf@Base 2.12.0
[10:46] <Laney> +#MISSING: 2.47.2-1# g_bit_nth_msf@Base 2.12.0
[10:46] <Laney> +#MISSING: 2.47.2-1# g_bit_storage@Base 2.12.0
[10:46] <Laney> dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddessssssssssrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttt
[10:46] <seb128> desssrttt
[10:46] <larsu> desrt!
[10:47] <Laney> there's some weird shit going on around inline functions in this release
[10:47] <larsu> willcooke: I guess it should be ok. in general we try to avoid setting things on widget names directly
[10:47] <larsu> and use classes instead
[10:47] <Laney> larsu!!!!
[10:47] <larsu> morning all that I have missed
[10:47] <larsu> hi Laney :)
[10:47] <Laney> been @ gym?
[10:47] <larsu> ya. and going to lunch now
[10:47] <Laney> haha
[10:47] <seb128> larsu, enjoy!
[10:47] <Laney> tough day
[10:47] * larsu will have to work more in the afternoon/evening today :)
[10:47] <larsu> thanks!
[10:47] <willcooke> larsu, got it, thanks. Had a look at how Adawaita was doing it and saw that was the correct way, and actually, I just got it sorted
[10:48] <larsu> willcooke: very cool :)
[10:48] * larsu thinks willcooke is shaping up to be a good theme maintainer
[10:48] <willcooke> it seems though that -gtk-gradient borders can't have radiused edges
[10:48] <larsu> hm really?
[10:48] <willcooke> I'm verrrrry slow
[10:48] <larsu> if css can do it, gtk should be able to as well
[10:48] <willcooke> yeah, at least border-radius doesn't have an effect
[10:48] <larsu> bug?
[10:48] <willcooke> maybe I need to slice them to make it work
[10:49] <willcooke> but that's too hard for me
[10:49] <larsu> :)
[10:49] <larsu> anyway - to late for my lunch date. see you in a bit
[10:49] <willcooke> l8r#
[10:57] <willcooke> background-color: rgb(255,0,0); is the CSS equivalent of print "XXXXX I am here!"
[10:57] * willcooke <-- l33t hax0r
[10:58] <Laney> * { color: red; background-color: limegreen; } // IS THIS THING EVEN RUNNING?
[10:58] <willcooke> :)
[10:59] * Laney has done this kind of thing before
[11:00] <Laney> when fixing o-s issues back in the day
[11:02] <seb128> Trevinho, btw did you meant to ask about something earlier with your "so, so..."?
[11:03] <Trevinho> seb128: no, as few mins before you asked how I was... :)
[11:03] <seb128> Trevinho, oh, sorry, I didn't read that as a reply, rather than as an opinion to a topic to discuss
[11:03] * seb128 hugs Trevinho
[11:04] <Trevinho> :-)
[11:10] <seb128> Trevinho, did you find a way to deal with the matching issue with nautilus? btw did you see my comment about gedit/are you looking at that one as well?
[11:11] <willcooke> seb128, I want to check a couple of bits of styling before commiting these changes. Can I just add a "padding: 10px" (or whatever it was in to gtk-widgets.css for testing?
[11:11] <willcooke> oh, this is for the file dialog
[11:12] <willcooke> not the normal file browser, the other one
[11:12] <seb128> sure, why not?
[11:12] <seb128> the sidepane widget is shared between nautilus and file-selector
[11:12] <seb128> I'm unsure what you are asking?
[11:13] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/fix1515557/+merge/278423 ?
[11:13] <Trevinho> seb128: for nautilus https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/bamf/safer-pid-desktop-registration/+merge/278461
[11:13] <seb128> cool
[11:13] <Trevinho> seb128: for gedit, I don't know... As I said yesterday we already use the _GTK_APPLICATION_ID (thanks to larsu's work) to use it as desktop-id... So not sure why it doesn't work
[11:14] <Trevinho> seb128: I didn't see the issue btw (yet)
[11:15] <willcooke> seb128, ah, this is the one I meant: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=758585
[11:16] <willcooke> I'll just hack that fix in so I can test gedit
[11:16] <willcooke> and make sure I don't commit it
[11:16] <seb128> willcooke, you can also upgrade gedit, that fix landed in xenial yesterday
[11:17] <willcooke> ah, even better, thanks seb128
[11:17] <seb128> yw
[11:20] <seb128> Trevinho, with gedit the issue is that if I dnd gedit from the dash to the launcher I gedit a gedit.desktop added to my launcher
[11:21] <seb128> but if I start gedit from a command line I get
[11:21] <seb128> _GTK_APPLICATION_ID(UTF8_STRING) = "org.gnome.gedit"
[11:22] <seb128> which leads to a new icon in the launcher
[11:22] <seb128> same if I open a document from gedit
[11:22] <seb128> ups
[11:22] <seb128> gedit->nautilus
[11:24] <Laney> seb128: could those theme tweaks go to the 3.18 branch too?
[11:24] <Laney> oh they did
[11:24] <Laney> nice ;)
[11:24] <seb128> righnt
[11:24] * Laney needed to pull
[11:40] <seb128> willcooke, Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/1519778 just for info (corresponding bugzilla bug filed as well)
[11:41] <willcooke> thx seb128
[11:41] <seb128> yw
[11:43] <willcooke> hrm, my theme changes are working. Back to the drawing board...
[11:44] <seb128> not working?
[11:44] <willcooke> my selectors arent matching
[11:44] <didrocks> seb128: I guess will feels that working is wrong :)
[11:44] <willcooke> oh
[11:44] <willcooke> *are not
[11:44] <seb128> charles, hey, any chance you could have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1261191 ? it seems like a good one to fix for the LTS
[11:44] <didrocks> "what, this is working, let's revert it" :)
[11:45] <seb128> hehe
[12:12] * Laney switches on bbc parliament
[12:18] <Trevinho> Laney: what's happening?
[12:18] <davmor2> Sweet5hark: do you have a screenshot of what the icons in LO should look like on Ubuntu at all, I think I still see the gnome ones in kvm on the daily in live session on first start up but would like to be sure
[12:19] <Laney> Trevinho: a bit of political theatre, some budget cuts to be announced
[12:19] <Laney> seb128: thx for the bug
[12:23] * Laney screams
[12:23] <Laney> sun just started reflecting off a window opposite
[12:23] * Laney goes blind
[12:23] <davmor2> Laney: what is this sun of which you speak
[12:24] <Laney> you don't want it
[12:26] * didrocks would want some sun now :(
[12:26] * davmor2 doesn't believe Laney has it, you sure it is not a Police search helicopter light?
[12:40] <desrt> Good morning all
[12:41] <desrt> time to get my coffee, croissant, and a side of HIDEOUS ABI BREAKAGE
[12:41] <desrt> yum
[12:42] <Laney> hi desrt! :D
[12:43] <desrt> will take a look :)
[12:43] <Laney> maybe just a missing available annotation?
[12:43] * Laney wants a croissant
[12:43] <desrt> ya. visibility is the first thought that occurred to me too
[12:44] <desrt> since I'm fairly sure the definitions are being properly emitted
[12:44] <desrt> but seriously... the abi thing was third in that list for a good reason :)
[12:45] <didrocks> good morning desrt!
[12:45] <desrt> moin :)
[12:45] <xnox> =(
[12:45] <xnox> desrt, what abi breakage?!
[12:46] <didrocks> xnox: a gliby thingy
[12:46] <didrocks> xnox: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/25/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t10:46
[12:47] <desrt> inlining in glib has been a disaster for a while -- we had inline versions in headers and backup versions in the .c file in case the compiler that you were using to build your project which included the headers didn't suport inlining
[12:47] <desrt> we gave up on that now since all compilers do inlining
[12:47] <desrt> so i cleaned up a lot of that mess, and tried to preserve the old versions for strict ABI compatibility
[12:47] <desrt> but clearly failed :)
[13:44] * desrt escapes key-fob insanity
[13:44] * desrt dives into ABI insanity
[13:46] <desrt> our building has massive keyfobs that double as garage-door-openers and i'm tired of carrying mine around... and i've long suspected that the transmitter and keyfob aspects of it operate separately... so i took it apart today to figure out which part of it was responsible for each
[13:47] <desrt> oddly enough, the thing stopped working after i took it out of the case
[13:47] <desrt> turns out the nfc/rfid bit is the back panel of the case itself
[13:49] <desrt> Laney: visibility was indeed the problem. want a new release today?
[13:49] <desrt> (i already pushed the fix if you want to cherrypick it in the meantime)
[14:05] <Laney> desrt: probably a good idea, other distros might pick it up and not notice
[14:05] <willcooke> larsu, I'm going insane here. My padding is being ignored for buttons in gedit, but everything else (like a test background colour) is being applied
[14:05] <willcooke> ?!
[14:05] <Laney> thanks for fixing
[14:05] <willcooke> any ideas?
[14:07] <willcooke> when I paste it in to the inspector it works
[14:07] <seb128> willcooke, what rule do you use?
[14:07] <willcooke> don;t understand "rule"
[14:08] <willcooke> css selector?
[14:09] <seb128> sorry, what lines do you add to the css
[14:09] <seb128> so we can try
[14:10] <willcooke> I'll pastebin it
[14:10] <larsu> willcooke: you can see in the inspector where a value comes from
[14:10] <larsu> in "style properties"
[14:10] <larsu> it tells you file and line nr
[14:10] <willcooke> larsu, it's blank
[14:11] <larsu> then your rule doesn't apply
[14:11] <willcooke> but the b/g colors *are* being applied
[14:11] <larsu> what is it? Do you have a branch?
[14:11] <willcooke> pastebin.ubuntu.com/13502453
[14:11] <willcooke> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13502453
[14:12] <larsu> hehe I was about to complain about the non-clickiness of that first link ;)
[14:12] <willcooke> :)
[14:12] <larsu> that's apps/gedit.css?
[14:13] <willcooke> yeah
[14:22] * willcooke wonders if it could be some of the @xyz definitions being wrong for our theme
[14:23] <larsu> willcooke: ya, that seems to be it indeed (remove the "theme_" prefix)
[14:27] <willcooke> heh, thanks larsu, sorry to bother you with that
[14:28] <larsu> no worries :)
[14:28] <Laney> pitti: do you know if we're allowed to use backports in cloud deployed things?
[14:28] <Laney> trusty doesn't have a new enough lmdb, but I could backport it
[14:28] <pitti> Laney: I'm not sure that we even have a policy about what you can use
[14:29] <Laney> that sounds great to me ;-)
[14:29] <pitti> Laney: indeed trusty is pretty strongly recommended, but as long as you keep stuff updated backports sohuld be fine
[14:29] <Laney> I thought it was pretty tight
[14:29] <Laney> but actually I found a page about dev managed stuff even in prodstack
[14:29] <Laney> so if you get full control...
[14:29] * Laney goes hog wild
[14:29] <pitti> Laney: I need a newer twitter-bootstrap3 for debci as well
[14:30] <Laney> pitti: I saw something where you wget a deb from the archive
[14:30] <Laney> that was great :P
[14:30] <pitti> Laney: yes, I manage autopkgtest myself, it's not CI managed
[14:30] <pitti> Laney: well, it's an utter hack, but *shrug*
[14:30] <Laney> pitti: this is prodstack, right?
[14:30] <pitti> yes
[14:30] <Laney> just the workers in scaling?
[14:30] <Laney> cool
[14:31] <pitti> Laney: the adt testbeds are in scaling; the workers themselves are on a PS instance
[14:31] <Laney> yeah sorry, that's what I meant
[14:31] <pitti> Laney: what are you charming up, OOI?
[14:31] <Laney> appstream extractor
[14:32] <Laney> another thing I'm not sure about is how to handle the cinder volume holding the archive mirror
[14:32] <Laney> it'd be a pain to have to start this from fresh each time
[14:32] <Laney> so maybe I can do it out of band
[14:32] <pitti> Laney: archive mirror?
[14:32] <Laney> juju doesn't seem to support this in the way I want yet
[14:32] <Laney> yeah, need a local one
[14:33] <pitti> Laney: ah, you want to attach a separate storage to your instance with that data
[14:33] <Laney> yes, it shouldn't be tied to the unit(?)
[14:33] <Laney> otherwise you have to re-mirror from scratch each time
[14:33] <pitti> Laney: where "each time" is just "when you redeploy", no?
[14:33] <pitti> which should happen like twice a year
[14:33] <pitti> so I wouldn't sweat that too much
[14:34] <pitti> Laney: and the mirror that you get in the cloud is pretty fast already
[14:34] <Laney> don't know
[14:34] <Laney> it's still a multiple hour operation
[14:34] <pitti> Laney: TBH I'd just start with setting up debmirror as part of your charm
[14:34] <pitti> Laney: you can upgrade a charm, you don't always need to re-deploy from scratch
[14:35] <Laney> I thought I might have the deploy script handle attaching a volume
[14:35] <pitti> welll, that indeed sounds elegant
[14:35] <Laney> i.e. do it out of band
[14:36] <pitti> Laney: I found that you can't charm quite a number of things anyway; you're going to need some deploy.sh script which invokes the various juju deploy, juju add-relation etc. commands, so you can do it there too
[14:36] * Laney shrugs, will see, maybe it does prove to not be required that often
[14:36] <Laney> it would also be good to store the assets themselves in a resillient fashion
[14:36] <Laney> so after a redeploy we can serve the latest run until we catch up again
[14:37] <Laney> maybe I'm overthinking this for this early stage :)
[14:37] <pitti> Laney: so you can deploy your service
[14:37] <pitti> Laney: then use direct OpenStack commands to add the storage to your newly created machine
[14:38] <Laney> yeah, that bit should be fine
[14:38] <Laney> and I store the assets on this volume too
[14:39] <pitti> machine_no="$($(juju status myservice) | grep machine: | grep -o '[0-9]\+')"
[14:39] <pitti> machine=juju-${env}-machine-${machine_no}
[14:39] <pitti> and then $machine is the thing to talk to with openstack commands line nova
[14:54] <Trevinho> desrt: hey, do you know what's the best way to get a gfile uri to be transformed to the actual path? I.e. I'd like to get the actual path from "trash://"
[14:59] <larsu> Trevinho: g_file_get_path()
[14:59] <larsu> it returns NULL though for things that don't have a path
[15:00] <Trevinho> larsu: tried in python but I get nothing
[15:00] <larsu> including trash://, I think
[15:00] <Trevinho> that's the thing
[15:00] <Trevinho> if you don't initialize it with a path, it won't work
[15:00] <larsu> trash isn't really a path...
[15:00] * Trevinho wonders what nautilus uses
[15:00] <larsu> gio api
[15:01] <Trevinho> yeah, I know.. I mean, what it uses to get the proper path to show
[15:01] <larsu> where does it show that?
[15:01] <Trevinho> I mean, when you open trash:// in the location bar, it just open it as an ur and then fetches the children of that, or it maps to the real path to show?
[15:09] <larsu> Trevinho: it fetches the children with gio api
[15:09] <larsu> there's no path on the file system mapping to that
[15:10] <Trevinho> Mh, I see..
[15:10] <desrt> Trevinho: what larsu said
[15:10] <desrt> Trevinho: imagine you have http:// uri
[15:10] <Trevinho> Well the thing is that if you go in the trash, the you open a subfolder...
[15:10] <desrt> some GFile's simply do not have a path
[15:10] <Trevinho> nautilus open the actual paths
[15:10] <Trevinho> path*
[15:10] <Trevinho> the location is not trash://subfolder
[15:11] <desrt> that seems odd
[15:11] <Trevinho> err trash:///subfolder
[15:11] <desrt> curiously, i also see the same
[15:11] <desrt> nautilus may have some special code to do this
[15:11] <Trevinho> yeah, that's why I was wondering how to dothat...
[15:11] <desrt> pretty sure there is nothing on GIO API to support this
[15:12] <desrt> standard::target-uri: file:///home/desrt/.var/lib/Trash/files/trashthis
[15:12] <desrt> so there you go
[15:12] <larsu> errr where do you see this?
[15:12] <Trevinho> standard::target-uri ?
[15:12] <desrt> gvfs-info
[15:13] <desrt> this is very strange, since the type of the thing is a directory
[15:13] <desrt> i wonder why i did that.....
[15:14] <larsu> no sorry, I mean in nautilus
[15:14] <desrt> i didn't do it. it was hadess
[15:14] <larsu> I don't see the target-uri btw
[15:14] <desrt> see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=667794
[15:16] <desrt> so there you go
[15:16] <desrt> Trevinho: my official answer is "it didn't used to do that but now it does and i don't really understand the reason"
[15:17] <Trevinho> mh, ok :-D
[15:17] <desrt> "so that totem can play DVDs from the trash"
[15:17] <desrt> (!)
[15:17] <larsu> wtf? Seriously?
[15:17] <desrt> that's what the commit says :)
[15:20] <larsu> sigh
[15:20] <desrt> anyway
[15:20] <desrt> Laney: new glib release is out
[15:21] <Laney> yay
[15:21] <desrt> hopefully this one isn't hideously broken
[15:21] <Trevinho> desrt: so.... There's no really way to get me the actual trash path?
[15:21] <desrt> Trevinho: but there is!
[15:21] <desrt> examine the standard::target-uri property, i guess
[15:21] <Trevinho> desrt: a part from going trhough children..
[15:21] <desrt> you can query it from g_file_query_info
[15:21] <Trevinho> desrt: there's nothing for gvfs-info trash:///
[15:22] <desrt> it has to be on a file in the trash
[15:22] <Trevinho> desrt: there's for gvfs-info trash:///trashed-child
[15:22] <desrt> trash:/// isn't an actual location
[15:22] <desrt> it is a combination of several locations (for example trash folders on removable media)
[15:22] <Trevinho> yeah, but I wanted to get from trash:/// -> file:///home/marco/.local/share/Trash/files/
[15:22] <desrt> different items can be in different actual locations
[15:22] <Trevinho> mh
[15:22] <desrt> if you want to know the homedir one, the answer is simple
[15:23] <desrt> by the spec it's in XDG_DATA_HOME/Trash/files
[15:23] <Trevinho> desrt: ok, that's what I wanted to use...
[15:23] <desrt> g_get_user_data_dir()
[15:23] <Trevinho> desrt: but you defined data_home on ~/.var/lib ?
[15:23] <larsu> Trevinho: what are you doing?
[15:23] <desrt> Trevinho: i set my XDG_DATA_HOME to that
[15:24] <Trevinho> larsu: launcher icons <-> storage windows matching
[15:24] <Trevinho> desrt: ok, then I'd go for that then
[15:24] <desrt> read http://standards.freedesktop.org/trash-spec/trashspec-1.0.html
[15:24] <desrt> but consider removable media
[15:24] <larsu> Trevinho: shouldn't that matching be on the uri, and not on the path?
[15:25] <Trevinho> desrt: yeah, that's the thig
[15:25] <Trevinho> larsu: in fact I was doing it using the URI...
[15:25] <desrt> just use GFile...
[15:25] <desrt> you do not want to reimplement the trash spec
[15:25] <larsu> nautilus windows tell you on dbus what they are showing right now (as a URI)
[15:25] <desrt> says someone who has implemented the trash spec
[15:25] <Trevinho> larsu: then... If you open nautilus trash and you go inside a trashed folder, nautilus sayus that you're in ~/.local/....
[15:26] <larsu> Trevinho: that's a bug
[15:26] <desrt> ya.. this is a combination of a nautilus bug and hadess being insane
[15:26] <Trevinho> larsu: that's what I'm using, but it's not using the URI for trash sub-folders
[15:26] <desrt> one of those two situations ought to be rectified
[15:26] <larsu> it should though
[15:26] <desrt> (perhaps both)
[15:26] <desrt> i can totally see the nautilus logic here
[15:26] <Trevinho> that's why I asked... otherwise my coed would have worked perfectly without caring about the actual trash uri
[15:26] <desrt> "did the user click on something that has a symlink destination? go to it."
[15:26] <desrt> when the logic should be:
[15:26] <desrt> "did the user click on something that IS A SYMLINK AND has a symlink destination? go to it."
[15:27] <desrt> why hadess sets symlink destination on a directory? no idea.
[15:28] <Trevinho> desrt: so you'd say we should fix nautilus or..... just use a workaround in unity side?
[15:30] <larsu> fix nautilus :)
[15:30] * larsu hides
[15:30] <desrt> Trevinho: i'm chatting with hadess. i think we need to fix gvfs.
[15:30] <desrt> we should also think about fixing nautilus while we're at it
[15:32] <Trevinho> desrt: ok, thanks... Let me know what's the final decision...
[15:32] * Trevinho drives back to Florence
[15:32] <seb128> Trevinho, safe drive!
[15:32] <Trevinho> snow allert :o
[15:33] <Trevinho> seb128: thanks
[15:41] <seb128> tedg, hey, do you remember what is the deal with bug #1165420? did we remove indicators content from the hud on purpose? or was it a side effect of the gmenu transition?
[15:45] <attente> hi, does anyone know or have a debian/watch file for github releases?
[15:52] <seb128> attente, ibus has one
[15:52] <seb128> https://github.com/ibus/ibus/releases .*/ibus(?:-|_|_v|V)(\d\S*)\.(?:tar\.xz|txz|tar\.bz2|tbz2|tar\.gz|tgz)
[15:52] <seb128> unsure if it works though
[15:54] <attente> seb128: thanks, i will try it
[16:09] <xnox> checking for XMIRMODULES... no
[16:09] <xnox> checking whether to build Xmir DDX... yes
[16:09] <xnox> configure: error: Xmir build explicitly requested, but required modules not found.
[16:09] * xnox needs help
[16:09] <seb128> xnox, where is that?
[16:10] <xnox> seb128, on s390x
[16:10] <seb128> robert_ancell would probably be your best bet but he's sleeping at this time
[16:10] <xnox> i guess i should skip it, just like it is skipped on arm64, powerpc and ppc64el
[16:10] <seb128> maybe bregma or ChrisTownsend or tedg can help you
[16:10] <seb128> yeah, probably
[16:10] <xnox> #shame -> i already bootstrapped mir
[16:59] <tedg> seb128, it was removed because it failed in user testing. The plan was to bring it back with additional info, but it never got implemented.
[17:00] <seb128> tedg, ok, seems quite some users liked/would like that (me included), I was wondering if that was something to "fix" for the LTS
[17:00] <seb128> I though it was buggy
[17:00] <seb128> not disabled on purpose
[17:00] <tedg> Sadly, no clue on Mir. Try #ubuntu-Mir
[17:01] <seb128> I would argue that the audiance that uses hud is probably not confused by indicators being listed in there
[17:01] <tedg> seb128, I am +1, I doubt there is anyone in design that remembers that user study anyway ;-)
[17:02] <seb128> would it be easy to re-enable? do you remember where that was changed?
[17:02] <tedg> seb128, it has been rewritten since...
[17:02] <seb128> oh, right :-/
[17:02] <seb128> tedg, thanks
[17:03] <seb128> so a valid wishlist but not likely trivial
[17:03] <tedg> But we now have an indicator registry, so it should be easier now.
[17:07] <seb128> tedg, k, let's see if somebody can pick it up as LTS polish, I put it on the list
[17:38] <didrocks> good night everyone!
[17:39] <willcooke> cya didrocks
[17:39] <didrocks> see you!
[17:55] <Trevinho> desrt: got anything from that discussion?
[17:55] <desrt> annoyingly, no
[17:55] <Trevinho> desrt: mh, so... going for a workaround for now
[18:03] <desrt> Trevinho: we're still chatting about it
[18:03] <desrt> Trevinho: but sure... more workarounds are cool too
[18:04] <Trevinho> desrt: well, I don't love them, but if we can't find a better solution upstream...
[18:04] <desrt> we can
[18:04] <desrt> but you haven't given much time
[18:04] <Trevinho> maybe :-)
[18:05] <Trevinho> I was wondering... In case of a subfolder trashed on an external device...
[18:05] <Trevinho> what's its uri?
[18:05] <Trevinho> I mean, trash://media-id/folder or what?
[18:10] <attente> seb128: could i submit a new package for upload to the archive?
[18:22] <Laney> glib uploaded to sync tomorrow, some first work on appstream charm pushed
[18:22] <Laney> LATERS
[19:13] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: fyi http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Candidacy-Bjoern-Michaelsen-td4167393.html
[19:14] <willcooke> Sweet5hark, good stuff! Good luck
[19:15] * Sweet5hark starts kissing babies and buys a smear campaign on TV.
[19:55] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, lol, thumbs up
[20:48] <willcooke> alrighty!!!
[20:48] <willcooke> I have vanquished by Gtk theme foes with a combination of brute force and ignorance
[20:48] <willcooke> I'll finish it tomorrow
[20:48] <willcooke> g'night all
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2015-11-25-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:42] <knome> huhu, ok
[14:24] <knome> ok, website frontpage now updated with our articles widget
[14:25] <knome> in the future, please pay attention to writing/copy-pasting a sensible excerpt, if at all possible, or poke me
[14:25] <knome> pleia2, flocculant ^
[14:58] <flocculant> knome: writing/copy pasting to where?
[15:00] <knome> flocculant, in the post editing screen, in the top right, there's a button called "screen options"
[15:00] <knome> click that and make sure that "excerpt" is selected
[15:00] <knome> then you can hide it
[15:00] <knome> once you have done that, an excerpt "box" under the article box appears
[15:03] <flocculant> knome: ok - that seems painless enough
[15:03] <flocculant> so it's bound to go wrong for me :D
[15:05] <knome> well, the thing is
[15:05] <knome> if you don't put in anything
[15:05] <knome> it will just take N words from the start
[15:05] <knome> and append it with [...]
[15:05] <knome> which isn't the end of the world
[15:05] <flocculant> yea - I understand that
[15:05] <knome> but it's of course nicer to have hand-crafted excerpts
[15:06] <knome> and we probably want to control that the boxes on the front page are about the same height
[15:06] <flocculant> yep for sure - if the excerpt is good enough then no need to read the whole if you're not really interested
[15:06] <knome> so if the title is long (like for local doc building), the excerpt should likely be shorter
[15:06] <knome> fortunately we don't need these for old articles
[15:07] <flocculant> knome: so it takes the whole title 'as it is' ?
[15:07] <knome> title is always as it is
[15:07] <knome> you can't control that
[15:07] <knome> you can only control the content excerpt
[15:08] <flocculant> ok
[15:08] <knome> so yeah, coming up with sensible titles is a good thing too :P
[15:08] <flocculant> short title = more excerpt room - got that
[15:08] <knome> yep
[15:09] <knome> and when all titles are ~same length, also looks better
[15:09] <knome> but if it needs to be long, then it needs to be long
[15:09] <flocculant> yea - but rather unwieldy as a concept
[15:09] <flocculant> yea indeed :D
[15:09] <knome> for layouting purposes, the middle column is unfortunately a bit narrower
[15:09] <flocculant> quick comment on wording for 'The Team Blog'
[15:09] <knome> or more exactly the content area for that
[15:10] <flocculant> Find even more interesting articles implies to me that the ones there are less interesting
[15:10] <knome> hah
[15:10] <knome> so -even ?
[15:10] <flocculant> hang fire
[15:10] <knome> yes?
[15:10] <flocculant> For more articles perhaps
[15:11] <knome> aha
[15:11] <knome> done
[15:11] <knome> and as you can probably figure out, it's easily changeable
[15:11] <flocculant> yep that's better
[15:11] <flocculant> yea - widget I assume
[15:11] <knome> this was just something i wrote quickly in order to have something there
[15:11] <knome> yes, a widget indeed :)
[15:11] <flocculant> yea I assumed as much, why I mentioned the wording :)
[15:12] <flocculant> and does the widget promote newest to the left?
[15:12] <knome> yes
[15:12] <flocculant> k
[15:13] <flocculant> I got that :)
[15:14] <flocculant> knome: I assume you saw my MP moving qa links to common reference - wanted to at least get that sorted out prior to us getting it on docs.x.o
[15:17] <knome> yes, i'll look at it today
[15:18] <flocculant> ok - only put you as it was us that was discussing it last week
[15:18] <knome> if we can get the community funding for our own virtual server quickly, we should probably wait until that's up before setting up the contributor docs
[15:18] <knome> the request was made by lyz yesterday
[15:18] <flocculant> well
[15:19] <flocculant> not sure I'd agree
[15:21] <krytarik> knome: One thing I noticed earlier, the Developer Area still refers to Wily and its blueprints.
[15:21] <knome> krytarik, right, i'll fix that next
[15:22] <knome> krytarik, when do we have your next MP up?
[15:22] <krytarik> knome: Umm, it's already done.
[15:22] <knome> aha
[15:22] <knome> ;D
[15:25] <knome> krytarik, should be release-agnostic now
[15:25] <krytarik> \o/
[15:26] <flocculant> is anyone else actually wanting to do anything with these docs?
[15:26] <knome> flocculant, is anyone else wanting to read the current contributor docs we have?
[15:26] <knome> my answer: i don't know
[15:27] <flocculant> ha
[15:27] <flocculant> I meant is anyone making noises about writing stuff :)
[15:27] <knome> i am :P
[15:28] <knome> i guess i've been involved so much with writing docs for all teams that i should make sure they end up in the new docs too
[15:28] <flocculant> as far as read - then who knows about them other than a few of *us* :)
[15:28] <knome> maybe at some point i could let it go and start making others write :P
[15:28] <knome> nobody - yet
[15:28] <knome> we will do massive publicity stunts
[15:28] <knome> where flocculant 'strikes' an arsenal - chelsea match for example
[15:28] <knome> oops
[15:28] <knome> that was supposed to be a secret
[15:29] <flocculant> lol
[15:32] <flocculant> and by alll you mean not qa
[15:32] <knome> yes
[15:33] <flocculant> :D
[15:33] <knome> and a bit of it too
[15:33] <knome> O:)
[15:33] <flocculant> that I have to then unstranglish :p
[15:33] <knome> lol
[15:33] <knome> maybe...
[15:33] <flocculant> :)
[16:20] <pleia2> knome: noted re: excerpt
[16:20] <pleia2> knome: also, yay, site looks good
[16:20] <knome> \o/
[16:21] <knome> bbl ->
[16:26] <pleia2> oh, and yeah I submitted the funding request yesterday, if all goes well (as I expect it to) I'll bring up the VPS next week
[16:26] <flocculant> cool
[16:26] <flocculant> and hi pleia2 :)
[16:26] <pleia2> o/ flocculant
[16:27] <flocculant> didn't see our testing session thing in the newsletter :'(
[16:27] <pleia2> oops, I'm sorry :(
[16:28] <flocculant> things happen - don't apologise :)
[16:28] <pleia2> lost our core link collector recently, so it's just been me, and I failed
[16:28] <pleia2> social media activity was good on it though
[16:28] <flocculant> yea for sure :)
[16:29] <flocculant> I did go looking
[16:29] <pleia2> :)
[16:29] <pleia2> I hope you have a decent turn out
[16:29] <flocculant> not often I do ;)
[16:29] <flocculant> well we will see :)
[16:29] <pleia2> or at least that quality overcomes quantity ;)
[16:30] <flocculant> it'll be in logs even if there are only a couple turn up
[16:30] * pleia2 nods
[16:30] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[16:30] <flocculant> so it can be linked out whatever happens ofc
[16:31] <pleia2> yeah, that'll be useful
[16:31] <pleia2> ok, time to pack up my laptop, off to the other side of the country for thanksgiving
[16:31] <pleia2> see you
[16:32] <flocculant> have fun pleia2 :)
[16:34] <pleia2> thanks :)
[19:17] <jjfrv8> knome, I have a few corrections to suggest for the building docs locally article. How would I go about submitting those?
[19:20] <flocculant> jjfrv8: do an MP - it's what I've been doing :)
[19:21] <jjfrv8> but where do I pull the article from? And where would I point the MP?
[19:22] <jjfrv8> or will I find out Sunday? :)
[19:35] <jjfrv8> bbl
[19:41] <flocculant> jjfrv8: sorry wrong end of the stick - all that stuff is on contributor docs too
[19:43] <krytarik> I think he's referring to this though: http://xubuntu.org/news/building-xubuntu-documentation-package-locally/
[19:44] <krytarik> Oh yes, you might have just indicated that. :P
[19:45] <flocculant> :)
[19:49] <krytarik> Also, since we are talking that article, I might reiterate: "'fonts-droid' added in Wily too, but installed in Xubuntu by default".
[19:54] <krytarik> jjfrv8: And if you are eager to include that in the docs too, there is a pretty wide gap to be filled yet :P - https://unit193.net/xubuntu/docs/contributor/C/documentation.html#docs-building
[21:23] <knome> jjfrv8, send an email to me or slickymaster
[21:25] <flocculant> cheating
[21:25] <flocculant> :p
[21:25] <knome> wut is? :P
[21:26] <knome> or you can send the mail to flocculant... who can then nag others to update the article :P
[21:26] <flocculant> ha ha
[21:26] <flocculant> I could update the article anyway :)
[21:27] <flocculant> but yea - I haz lp:stuff on the brain atm so assumed wrongly :D
[21:53] <ochosi> evening all
[21:53] <flocculant> hi ochosi :)
[21:54] <ochosi> how're things?
[21:54] <ochosi> (apart from sidi spamming everyone with his sandboxing project ;))
[21:54] <flocculant> well - I gave up reading anything because of that :p
[21:55] <flocculant> plodding along - no change on the enormous grey borders yet - not seen any mention of that since darkst was in -desktop the other morning
[21:56] <flocculant> other than that not much from me going on
[21:57] <flocculant> though we are running the 'how to test' session on Sunday hopefully
[21:57] <flocculant> how's ochosi ?
[21:58] <ochosi> yeah, read about that session naturally
[21:58] <ochosi> not sure whether i'll manage to be around on sunday
[21:58] <flocculant> yep - I assumed so
[21:58] <ochosi> family time there with the grandparents and all
[21:58] <ochosi> i'm good, just really really busy and often tired :)
[21:58] <flocculant> ochosi: well - it's aimed at the new people we've had joined really
[21:59] <ochosi> but i'm plotting to go to fosdem in january
[21:59] <flocculant> ochosi: that sounds awesome - g'parents are always good :)
[21:59] <ochosi> so its not like i've forgotten about FOSS, i just need more time to get folks at my new job to appreciate it :)
[21:59] <flocculant> :D
[22:03] <ochosi> Unit193: are you still following up on the -core issue/s?
[22:03] <ochosi> i mean: are you actively pinging people about it
[22:03] <ochosi> (unfortunately i don't get to pinging folks anymore, just not around enough for that)
[22:13] <flocculant> :)
[22:17] <krytarik> ochosi: Last ping was on Nov 17th: "[20:06] <slangasek> Unit193: cheers, queued for looking at this afternoon".
[22:17] <ochosi> ok, good to know
[22:17] <ochosi> even though that was a week ago
[22:17] <krytarik> Yep.
[22:17] <ochosi> anyhow, please follow up with him
[22:17] <ochosi> likely he just needs a friendly reminder
[22:18] * ochosi needs some sleep
[22:18] <ochosi> night y'all!
[22:18] <flocculant> night ochosi :)
[22:26] <knome> nighty flocculant
[22:26] <knome> err, ochosi
[22:27] <knome> flocculant, FYI, i'm eating now, then looking at the MP's
[22:33] <knome> flocculant, i lie! merged.
[23:28] <knome> jjfrv8, changes taken to production with some further changes on wording on the last paragraph - thanks
[23:37] <bluesabre> evening all
[23:37] <knome> hello bluesabre
[23:38] <bluesabre> hey knome
[23:38] <bluesabre> how's it going?
[23:39] <knome> not bad!
[23:39] <knome> got the new stuff landed on the webite
[23:39] <knome> +s
[23:39] <knome> and it looks goood now
[23:40] <bluesabre> hm
[23:40] <bluesabre> "The Blog" on the far right looks odd
[23:41] <knome> aha
[23:41] <knome> where should it be then?
[23:41] <bluesabre> dunno
[23:41] <knome> hah
[23:41] <bluesabre> but it's like "no categories love me!"
[23:41] <knome> thanks for the input, sean
[23:41] <knome> i appreciate it
[23:41] <bluesabre> np
[23:42] <knome> well we can add categories in the dropdown
[23:43] <bluesabre> knome: I was just enjoying all the fine, lovely looking site, and then I saw The Blog alllll alone :'(
[23:43] <knome> :D
[23:45] * bluesabre needs to work on his approach
[23:45] <knome> what would you suggest?
[23:46] <bluesabre> knome: I am talking about the bottom, btw
[23:46] <bluesabre> not the top
[23:46] <knome> put some submenu items for categories?
[23:46] <knome> well, the menu is the same
[23:46] <knome> if there are items in the dropdown menu, they are in the footer
[23:46] <knome> same other way
[23:46] <bluesabre> gotcha
[23:46] <bluesabre> also
[23:46] <knome> yes?
[23:47] <bluesabre> "The Blog" on the top has a dropdown popout... despite having no content
[23:47] <knome> hmm?
[23:47] <bluesabre> one sec
[23:47] <knome> i can't see that.
[23:47] <knome> chrome?
[23:47] <bluesabre> chromium/opera
[23:47] <knome> don't see in chrome/ff
[23:48] <knome> i believe you see it and i can *try* to fix it..
[23:48] <bluesabre> https://imgur.com/NyAEDGY
[23:48] <knome> weird
[23:49] <knome> just to confirm, can you see the same in the staging site
[23:49] <knome> no you can't
[23:49] <knome> there is no blog menu
[23:49] <knome> sec
[23:49] <bluesabre> :)
[23:50] <knome> refresh
[23:50] <bluesabre> fixed
[23:50] <bluesabre> and
[23:50] <bluesabre> the footer blog looks better now too
[23:50] <knome> hmm?
[23:50] <bluesabre> yay!
[23:50] <knome> weird
[23:50] <knome> it's the same theme and all
[23:50] <knome> what the...
[23:50] <knome> or did you refresh the main site?
[23:51] <knome> maybe you had some cache.
[23:51] <bluesabre> refreshed main site
[23:51] <bluesabre> maybe
[23:51] <knome> ah.
[23:51] <knome> explains
[23:51] <bluesabre> The Blog on the footer looked like a child element with no breathing room initially
[23:51] <knome> maybe
[23:51] <bluesabre> now its all better
[23:51] <bluesabre> so go knome
[23:51] <knome> i haven't tested stuff with partly cached CSS :P
[23:51] <knome> \o/
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.575436
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2015-11-25-#kubuntu-council
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[21:00] <valorie> ahoneybun: can you paste the join link for me?
[21:41] <valorie> found it on telegram, thanks again for inviting me
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.577330
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-nl
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[06:00] <gerrit> Goedemorgen
[06:01] <gerrit> ik had een vraagje
[06:01] <gerrit> hoe kan ik de beeldscherms dedecteren
[06:02] <gerrit> ik zie het wel op mijn tv maar dan kan ik de pijltje niet zien op mijn pc en andersom
[06:03] <gerrit> ik heb Ubuntu 14043 Trusty Tahr LTS Desktop i386
[12:21] <gerrit> welke programma kan ik het best gebruiken als vervanging van grabbit
[12:21] <gerrit> en hoe installeer ik het
[12:21] <SCHAAP137> gerrit: wat is grabbit?
[12:21] <gerrit> het werkt allemaal perfeckt maar is nieuw voor mij
[12:21] <gerrit> om nzb binnen e halen
[20:43] <crb> moet je als je ubuntu opstart comando in voeren?
[20:43] <crb> voor de eerste keer
[20:46] <crb> oke ik kom niet verder met met de progamer scherm
[20:47] <crb> help\
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.579163
| 2015-11-25T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[00:02] <brousch> They grew from 2 to 30 people in 2 years and have never had an IT guy
[00:07] <brousch> Now contracts require them to have real security and policies
[01:41] <jrwren> brousch: sounds kinda fun.
[01:41] <jrwren> brousch: big enough to have some money and interesting problems, small enough to keep out stupid huge "solutions"
[01:42] <cmaloney> heh
[01:43] <brousch> Exactly
[01:45] <brousch> The hard part will be convincing the partner company that things like Github are secure enough
[02:50] <_stink_> my big company uses github.com with 2FA and is content with that
[02:50] <_stink_> brousch: fwiw
[14:30] <cmaloney> Morning
[14:37] <rick_h_> morning
[14:37] <rick_h_> snow tire season begins...
[14:41] <rick_h_> cmaloney: chc tonight?
[15:25] <cmaloney> That's my plan
[15:26] <cmaloney> rick_h_: you?
[15:43] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea looks like it
[15:45] <greg-g> 35 in Petaluma this morning
[15:46] <rick_h_> wooo 41!
[16:56] <cmaloney> Current conditions at Detroit City Airport, MI (KDET)
[16:56] <cmaloney> Last updated Nov 25, 2015 - 11:53 AM EST / 2015.11.25 1653 UTC
[16:56] <cmaloney> Temperature: 48.0 F (8.9 C)
[16:56] <cmaloney> Relative Humidity: 62%
[16:56] <cmaloney> Wind: from the SSE (160 degrees) at 9 MPH (8 KT)
[16:56] <cmaloney> Sky conditions: clear
[17:32] <widox> Sunshine and clouds mixed. High around 65F. ahhyeah :D
[17:34] <rick_h_> heh just as i out snow tires on boty vehicles
[17:37] <widox> its a good time to be in the south
[17:55] <rick_h_> widox: where down south?
[19:26] <widox> rick_h_: Savannah, GA
[22:06] <jrwren> its hot out.
[22:06] <jrwren> Savannah is my favorite city of the south.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.582807
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2015-11-25-#ubuntu-pt
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[22:13] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.583413
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-ir
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[17:00] <hasan> مشکل در نصبت اوبونتو 15.10
[17:06] <CtrlC> *پاسخ در نصبت اوبونتو پانزده و ده*
[23:11] <Alisky> Hi guys
[23:11] <Alisky> are there any person here?
[23:12] <Alisky> i have a question.
[23:13] <Alisky> i downloaded the longman dictionary for linux but i don't know how install it?
[23:14] <Alisky> could you help me please?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.589781
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-se
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[12:04] <K350> Ok, vet att det är en ubuntu kanal. Men skadar inte att fråga. Vår Apple TV har bara 29 kkanaler vad jag kan se. Går det att lgg atill fle rkanaler?
[15:43] <fr33r1d3> Hello world!
[16:15] <Hund> God afton!
[17:30] <x86_64> God natt.
[17:46] <Hund> :D
[17:46] <Hund> Natti!
[17:54] <marsupapu> Det här är ju roligt kanal! Morgon, afton, gonatt! Så artigt!
[18:14] <Hund> haha
[18:15] <Hund> Det är typ det som sägs här.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.593440
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[00:21] <ianorlin> hmm I hope https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Leadership/2015 is ok with me listing the full url as Los Angeles as two words makes it not want to link
[00:34] <nhaines> ianorlin: just enclose the wiki page name with double brackets.
[00:42] <ianorlin> ah ok
[10:06] <pleia2> nhaines: you're welcome :) yay cats
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.594595
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-ru
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[00:17] <Denver79> я тут?
[00:18] <Denver79> оооо ))
[00:18] <Denver79> естьт кто?
[00:20] <Denver79> кто нибудь сталкивался? http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=254505.msg2100236#msg2100236
[00:33] <UNIm95> Denver79: Начинка ноута какая?
[00:37] <Denver79> UNIm95: дискреная и встроенная видяхи, 8 гб.. нормальная ночинка
[00:37] <UNIm95> Подробнее
[00:39] <Denver79> UNIm95: все внутренности вспоминать? )
[00:39] <Denver79> Видео Интел + дискретная AMD Radeon HD 6700M Series
[00:39] <UNIm95> Вот.
[00:40] <UNIm95> У каталисте не пишет, скорее всего, из-за того что ты используешь интеловую
[00:40] <UNIm95> А вывод по hdmi cделан только с дискретки.
[00:40] <UNIm95> как вариант переключить работу на дискретку.
[00:40] <UNIm95> и глянуть там
[00:41] <UNIm95> Как вариант поставить более свежий драйвер.
[00:43] <Denver79> UNIm95: неее - с встроенной интел работает всё норм. а вот если на дискретку в каталисте переключить в режиме "второго рабочего стола" мониторы мерцают сразу
[00:43] <Denver79> так было и год назад и сейчас
[00:43] <UNIm95> Оба или только внешний?
[00:43] <Denver79> оба
[00:43] <UNIm95> свежие дрова пробывал?
[00:43] <Denver79> да
[00:44] <UNIm95> пробовал*
[00:44] <UNIm95> в ноуте только hdmi? или есть еще VGA/DP?
[00:45] <Denver79> есть и VGA
[00:45] <UNIm95> Попробуй через vga
[00:46] <Denver79> там же качество какое то.. замыленное
[00:47] <Denver79> да и шнура щас нет.. в чём фишка с hdmi на дискретной?
[00:48] <UNIm95> Denver79: С этими hdmi нас поимели больше чем с виндой. От качества кабеля зависит качество картинки. На, чтоб его, цифровом кабеле.
[00:48] <UNIm95> Если на классическом vga не будет мерцания то косяк в кабеле hdmi
[00:49] <tagezi> ну вообще с двумя мониторами может мерцать и проблема в дровах
[00:49] <tagezi> у меня такое на интловских дровах при полу потушеном мониторе
[00:49] <Denver79> с кабелем всё нормально - на интеловской же не мерцает по этому же кабелю.
[00:50] <tagezi> при включении ноута.. если включать при полной яркости такого нет
[00:50] <tagezi> а нафига тебе 15.04 ?
[00:51] <tagezi> чем стабильная ось не устраивает?
[00:52] <Denver79> неее - тут полностью картинка по горизонтали сбивается и происходит слайдшоу. 15.10 уже, а проблема не ушла
[00:53] <UNIm95> Denver79: вопрос такой: при подключении второго моника в каталисте есть возможность проверить частоту обновления?
[00:53] <UNIm95> Может на ноутбучном монике стоит 60Hz а на внешнем 50?
[00:53] <Denver79> UNIm95: кажется нет такого пункта
[00:54] <UNIm95> Denver79: Есть такой пункт. сам с радеоном сижу
[00:56] <Denver79> UNIm95: в разделе 3Д?
[00:56] <UNIm95> Нет в разделе Менеджер дисплеев
[00:58] <Denver79> UNIm95: а у тебя дрова с сайта АМД?
[00:58] <UNIm95> +
[00:58] <UNIm95> Не юзаю с репозиториев.
[00:59] <UNIm95> Denver79: попробуй еще от рута каталист запустить.
[00:59] <UNIm95> так как этот пункт работает только от рута
[01:00] <Denver79> UNIm95: от рута щас.. но с репозитория.. а если не будет с офсайта частоты внешнего моника? у тебя есть?
[01:01] <UNIm95> Denver79: Тебе скрин кинуть?
[01:01] <Denver79> UNIm95: нее... пойду к амд
[01:02] <UNIm95> Denver79: только инсталл делай правильно: генерацией пакетов.
[01:38] <tagezi> блин, как всё сложно.. у меня бы терпения не хватолобы...
[01:38] <tagezi> а может я просто привык обходить баги, а не решать их )
[07:15] <llorephie> >_>
[10:04] <tagezi> утра всем
[11:16] <llorephie> Утра
[11:27] <Sergey_IT> снежного
[11:52] <tagezi> Sergey_IT: в питере чо снег?
[12:07] <Sergey_IT> ага
[12:08] <Sergey_IT> http://weather.rshu.ru/radar/
[12:41] <Leagnus> нежного?
[12:42] <no_NICK> //
[14:17] <Leagnus> andrex: , а как там с джаббером у WeeChat?
[14:19] <andrex> фз
[14:19] <andrex> я джаберр уже не юзал гда 2
[14:20] <andrex> плагин есть пробуй
[14:20] <andrex> и не один вроде
[14:35] <Leagnus> andrex: , а в каких отношениях с Вичатом BitlBee?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.607361
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-it
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[00:25] <Mauro88> ragazzi scusate ancora, sto provando ad installare compiz fusion icon per gli effetti 3d su kubuntu 15.10
[00:25] <Mauro88> però si blocca l'applicazione
[00:25] <Mauro88> avete qualche suggerimento?
[02:46] <ciaoo> se il BT non viene riconosciuto da ubuntu 14.04?
[09:31] <jester-> 'ngiorno
[10:17] <giuseppe> ciao
[10:18] <akis24> !ciao | Guest63815
[10:18] <ubot-it> Guest63815: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[10:19] <Guest63815> buon giorno
[10:19] <Guest63815> scusate io ho un problema
[10:19] <Guest63815> non riesco a istallare il drive broadcom del wifi
[10:19] <Guest63815> cosa posso fare?
[10:20] <Carlin0> !bcm | Guest63815
[10:20] <ubot-it> Guest63815: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Broadcom
[10:20] <Carlin0> segui la guida
[10:20] <akis24> Guest63815: prova a usare → menu delle impostazioni → driver aggiuntivi o come dice Carlin0
[10:22] <Guest63815> akis io la provo a istallare dalle impostazioni-drive aggiuntivi ecc...
[10:23] <Guest63815> ma non mi fa istallare ne il drive del wifi
[10:23] <Guest63815> ne quello dell'nvidia
[10:23] <Carlin0> Guest63815, che ubuntu hai ?
[10:23] <Guest63815> 15.10
[10:24] <Carlin0> e che errore da quando provi a installare ?
[10:24] <Guest63815> non mi da un errore
[10:24] <Guest63815> mi inizia il download
[10:24] <Guest63815> e poi arrivato a 1/4 del download non va più avanti
[10:25] <Carlin0> non va + avanti e non da errore ?
[10:26] <Guest63815> no
[10:26] <Guest63815> l'ho lasciato una notte
[10:26] <Guest63815> ma è rimasto allo stesso punto
[10:26] <Carlin0> Guest63815, sudo apt install pastebinit
[10:27] <Guest63815> mi dice
[10:27] <Guest63815> Impossibile impostare il blocco /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[10:27] <Guest63815> ah aspetta
[10:27] <Carlin0> Guest63815, chiudi software center e gestore pacchetti
[10:27] <Guest63815> e infatti
[10:28] <Guest63815> ettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
[10:28] <Guest63815> Generazione albero delle dipendenze
[10:28] <Carlin0> ha installato ?
[10:29] <Guest63815> i dice
[10:29] <Guest63815> impossibile trovare il pacchetto
[10:29] <ExPBoy> Guest19326, prova a cambiare server
[10:29] <Guest63815> "Impossibile trovare il pacchetto pastebinit"
[10:29] <Carlin0> Guest63815, cat /etc/apt/sources.list && ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[10:30] <ExPBoy> eh
[10:30] <Carlin0> Guest63815, metti il risultato in pastebin
[10:30] <Carlin0> !paste
[10:30] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[10:31] <Guest63815> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556478/
[10:32] <jester-> abilita i parteners
[10:33] <Carlin0> hai pasticciato con i repo ...
[10:33] <Carlin0> ne hai aggiunto uno a manina
[10:34] <Guest63815> come lo tolgo?
[10:34] <jester-> e tutti quelli in software per stocazzi
[10:34] <Guest63815> ?
[10:34] <Guest63815> non sto capendo?
[10:36] <jester-> sudo software-properties-gtk
[10:36] <Guest63815> carlinO faccio questo?
[10:36] <jester-> abilita tuttio ep poi i parteners in altro software
[10:39] <Guest63815> carlin0 seguo jester?
[10:41] <Carlin0> Guest63815, certo
[10:41] <Carlin0> ne sa molto + di me
[10:42] <Guest63815> ok
[10:42] <Guest63815> jester
[10:42] <Guest63815> cosa sono gli ep?
[10:43] <jester-> i repo parteners
[10:45] <Guest63815> e come faccio
[10:45] <Guest63815> se metto quel comando mi apre la gestione drive
[10:46] <akis24> Guest63815: ti si apre una finestra seleziona la scheda " altro software " e metti la spunta sui repo partners per abilitarli
[10:47] <carletto> buongiorno e buona domenica
[10:48] <akis24> Guest63815: quando hai messo la spunta sui repo chiudi la finestra aperta e poi da terminale dai sudo apt update
[10:48] <akis24> !ciao | carletto
[10:48] <ubot-it> carletto: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[10:50] <carletto> il mio pc si spegne ultimamente spesso, ho dato una pulita alle ventole e seguito alcune cose sul web ma il problema persiste, ho anche monitorato il riscaldamento del CPU e mi dice che e di 40 C
[10:50] <carletto> ciao Akis24
[10:50] <akis24> !chat | carletto
[10:50] <ubot-it> carletto: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:50] <carletto> ora stamani li e apparso questo messaggio
[10:50] <akis24> carletto: che sistema usi ? che messaggio ?
[10:51] <carletto> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/RPBwFfpmQkqOgp0VwR7g
[10:52] <akis24> carletto: al riavvio immagino sia apparso .. io devo scappare aspetta se qualcuno legge e puo' aiutarti
[10:52] <Guest63815> ok
[10:52] <carletto> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[10:53] <carletto> ok
[10:53] <akis24> Guest19326: quasi certamente avrai degli aggiornamenti da fare falli tutti
[10:53] <akis24> bon vado scusate..
[10:53] <Guest63815> ora cosa faccio?
[10:54] <Guest63815> jester-
[10:56] <cristian_c> Guest63815: ?
[10:57] <Guest63815> dopo che faccio sudo apt update
[10:57] <Guest63815> cosa devo fare?
[10:57] <carletto> ciao cristian_c hai visto la foto del messaggio che mi è comparso?
[10:58] <carletto> il pc si spegne in continuazione
[10:58] <ExPBoy> carletto, non è un difetto software quindi ubuntu non ha colpa
[10:58] <carletto> a intervalli non sempre uguali
[10:58] <cristian_c> Guest63815: sto guardando, non c'ero prima
[10:59] <Guest63815> ok ok
[10:59] <cristian_c> carletto: idem
[10:59] <Guest63815> quando puoi
[10:59] <carletto> ecosa può essere?
[10:59] <carletto> secondo te?
[11:00] <ExPBoy> !chat | carletto
[11:00] <ubot-it> carletto: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[11:01] <carletto> ma avete visto la foto?
[11:01] <cristian_c> un po' di pazienza
[11:01] <carletto> siate piu chiari per favore
[11:01] <ExPBoy> ?
[11:01] <cristian_c> carletto: l'ho aperta ora sta foto, se dai il tempo...
[11:02] <carletto> sicerto
[11:02] <carletto> scusa
[11:02] <carletto> tutto il tempo che vuoi
[11:02] <cristian_c> Guest63815: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[11:02] <cristian_c> carletto: hai un kernel panic
[11:02] <carletto> in parole povere?
[11:02] <Guest63815> dice che non e istallato
[11:02] <carletto> rimedi?
[11:02] <cristian_c> carletto: ma come controlli le temperature?
[11:02] <Guest63815> e che lo posso istallare con un comando che mi da lui
[11:03] <cristian_c> Guest63815: sudo apt-get install -y pastebinit
[11:03] <carletto> con il comando aepi -V
[11:03] <cristian_c> carletto: installa lm-sensors
[11:03] <cristian_c> !lmsensors
[11:03] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/LmSensors
[11:04] <cristian_c> carletto: che pc hai?
[11:04] <Guest63815> ora rimetto quel comando?
[11:04] <cristian_c> Guest63815: sì
[11:04] <carletto> AMD Phenom(tm) 9650 Quad-Core Processor × 4
[11:05] <cristian_c> carletto: e scheda grafica...
[11:05] <Guest63815> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556692/
[11:05] <carletto> Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR che dovrebbe essere una ATI RADEON HD 5450
[11:05] <cristian_c> Guest63815: allora
[11:06] <cristian_c> Guest63815: disattiva pure il cdrom come sorgente dei pacchetti
[11:06] <cristian_c> non ti serve
[11:06] <cristian_c> carletto: capito
[11:07] <cristian_c> carletto: avevo letto anche qui di problemi con le hd 5xxx
[11:07] <Guest63815> come faccio?
[11:07] <cristian_c> Guest63815: hai disattivato cdrom?
[11:07] <cristian_c> dalle sorgenti software
[11:08] <cristian_c> Guest63815: ma sei in live?
[11:08] <Guest63815> no
[11:08] <cristian_c> ok
[11:08] <cristian_c> Guest63815: allora disattivalo
[11:08] <cristian_c> che altrimenti fai solo casino con i repo
[11:08] <Guest63815> ok
[11:08] <Guest63815> fatto
[11:09] <Guest63815> dici CD-ROM
[11:09] <cristian_c> Guest63815: ok, ora quando chiudi sorgenti software, ti chiderà di ricariare
[11:09] <Guest63815> giusto?
[11:09] <gemelli888> ciao ragazzi chi mi aiuta sono alle prime armi
[11:09] <Guest63815> si me l'ha chiesto
[11:09] <Guest63815> faccio ricarica?
[11:09] <cristian_c> ricaricare
[11:09] <cristian_c> Guest63815: sì
[11:09] <cristian_c> carletto: hai installato lmsensors?
[11:09] <cristian_c> Guest63815: eh
[11:10] <carletto> si
[11:10] <gemelli888> non mi si vedono i video
[11:10] <cristian_c> !aiuto | gemelli888
[11:10] <ubot-it> gemelli888: per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[11:10] <Guest63815> fatto
[11:10] <cristian_c> carletto: ottimo, a che punto sei della guida?
[11:10] <Guest63815> ora?
[11:10] <cristian_c> Guest63815: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[11:11] <carletto> configura
[11:11] <gemelli888> come scaricare flash player
[11:11] <cristian_c> carletto: se hai problemi con la configurazione, domanda pure
[11:11] <Guest63815> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556736/
[11:11] <carletto> ok
[11:11] <cristian_c> gemelli888: domanda: in particolare su che sito?
[11:12] <gemelli888> non so come scaricarlo che mi da informazioni
[11:12] <gemelli888> ho istallato adesso ubuntu e non so come si fa
[11:12] <cristian_c> Guest63815: ok
[11:12] <cristian_c> Guest63815: sei via cavo ora?
[11:12] <Guest63815> si
[11:13] <cristian_c> Guest63815: lshw -C network |pastebinit
[11:13] <cristian_c> gemelli888: ho fatto una domanda, però
[11:13] <Guest63815> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556757/
[11:14] <carletto> ok cristina_c finito
[11:14] <cristian_c> product: BCM43142 802.11b/g/n
[11:14] <carletto> cristin_c
[11:14] <cristian_c> carletto: bene, lancialo, come da guida
[11:14] <carletto> cristian_c finito
[11:14] <cristian_c> !bcm
[11:14] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/DispositiviSenzaFili/Broadcom
[11:14] <cristian_c> !paste | carletto
[11:14] <ubot-it> carletto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[11:14] <Guest63815> stai parlando con me cristian
[11:15] <cristian_c> Guest63815: wl (proprietari) per chip con id: BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4313, BCM43142, BCM4321, BCM4322, BCM43224, BCM43225, BCM43227 e BCM43228.
[11:15] <cristian_c> Guest63815: per forza i driver proprietari
[11:16] <Guest63815> non riesco a capire
[11:16] <cristian_c> bcm43142
[11:16] <Guest63815> non sono bravo in queste cose
[11:16] <cristian_c> Guest63815: la scheda wifi si chiama bcm43142 e usa driver proprietari
[11:16] <Guest63815> ok
[11:16] <Guest63815> ma dove?
[11:17] <Guest63815> nel link che mi hai mandato tu?
[11:17] <cristian_c> Guest63815: nel wiki è scritto così
[11:17] <cristian_c> anzi, nel tuo pastebin
[11:17] <carletto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556786/
[11:18] <cristian_c> Guest63815: digita: ifconfig -a | pastebinit
[11:18] <Guest63815> BCM43142 802.11b/g/n
[11:18] <Guest63815> cosi si chiama
[11:18] <Guest63815> l'ho visto nei drive aggiuntivi
[11:18] <Guest13905> Buongiorno, ho installato una stampante epson tramite cups. Ho notato però che la stampa risulta un po' più lenta rispetto ai driver proprietari windows. E' normale?
[11:18] <cristian_c> carletto: cpu a 40°, scheda grafica a 57°, suppongo
[11:19] <cristian_c> Guest63815: ok
[11:19] <Guest63815> metto quel comando?
[11:19] <cristian_c> Guest63815: adesso digita il comando che ti ho dato
[11:19] <Guest63815> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556796/
[11:19] <carletto> si dovrebbero essere quelle le temperature rilevate
[11:20] <cristian_c> Guest13905: è possibile, ma chi lo sa?
[11:20] <cristian_c> carletto: allora
[11:20] <cristian_c> carletto: che sarebbero anche ottime
[11:20] <cristian_c> almeno per la cpu
[11:21] <carletto> non capisco il perchè dello spegnimento continuo e all'improvviso del pc
[11:21] <cristian_c> Guest63815: ok, quindi hai detto che driver aggiuntivi si blocca
[11:21] <Guest63815> si
[11:21] <carletto> ho pulito e tolto la polvere
[11:21] <Guest63815> si interrompe l'istallazione
[11:21] <cristian_c> Guest63815: riprova ora, col cavo attaccato
[11:21] <Guest63815> ok
[11:21] <cristian_c> Guest63815: e posta anche una foto
[11:22] <cristian_c> !image | Guest63815
[11:22] <ubot-it> Guest63815: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[11:22] <cristian_c> carletto: quando si spegne, la ventola va a palla?
[11:23] <cristian_c> carletto: sei su 14.04.3?
[11:23] <Guest63815> cristian sei un grande
[11:23] <Guest63815> stima totale
[11:23] <carletto> 14.04 LTS
[11:23] <Guest63815> ora devo riavviare vero?
[11:23] <cristian_c> Guest63815: ?
[11:23] <Guest63815> ha funzionato
[11:23] <carletto> si cristian_c e un grandissimo
[11:23] <cristian_c> Guest63815: secondo me, era il cd rom attivo
[11:23] <cristian_c> Guest63815: nelle sorgenti software
[11:23] <cristian_c> a creare problemi
[11:24] <Guest63815> ora riavvio il pc?
[11:24] <cristian_c> carletto: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[11:24] <cristian_c> Guest63815: sì
[11:24] <Guest63815> ok
[11:24] <Guest63815> grazie mille
[11:24] <Guest63815> troppo gentile
[11:24] <carletto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556842/
[11:25] <cristian_c> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[11:26] <cristian_c> carletto: sudo lshw | pastebinit
[11:26] <cristian_c> carletto: lo fa da sempre il problema?
[11:27] <carletto> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556858/
[11:27] <cristian_c> carletto: e poi, hai provato anche su winz?
[11:27] <carletto> si ma le altre volte era molto raro
[11:27] <carletto> si anche li
[11:27] <carletto> ma non lo uso più winz lo giuro
[11:27] <carletto> hahahahaha
[11:28] <cristian_c> carletto: e che c'è di male a usare winz?
[11:29] <cristian_c> carletto: se il problema ce l'hai dappertutto, è il pc che ha problemi
[11:29] <cristian_c> npn tanto l'os
[11:29] <carletto> scherzi? io anche se non sono una cima ma non posso piu rinunciare a ubuntu
[11:29] <cristian_c> carletto: quanta ram hai?
[11:29] <carletto> dovrei avere 4GB
[11:29] <cristian_c> carletto: controlla anche casomai fosse la ram il problema
[11:30] <carletto> dici di aumentare la RM?
[11:30] <cristian_c> carletto: prova a cambiare banco/slot
[11:30] <carletto> ok
[11:30] <cristian_c> carletto: no no
[11:30] <cristian_c> carletto: sposti la ram, ci provi un'altra ram compatibile
[11:30] <cristian_c> carletto: prove del genere
[11:30] <carletto> si ok
[11:30] <carletto> grazie
[11:31] <cristian_c> carletto: così vedi se è un problema hardware della ram
[11:31] <cristian_c> carletto: ma se il problema è sulla scheda madre
[11:31] <cristian_c> rivolgiti a un tecnico qualificato
[11:31] <carletto> ok
[11:31] <carletto> buona domenica e grazie tanto
[11:31] <cristian_c> carletto: la scheda grafica è integrata?
[11:32] <cristian_c> oppure è su slot pci a parte?
[11:32] <carletto> integrata
[11:32] <cristian_c> carletto:
[11:32] <cristian_c> ah
[11:32] <cristian_c> carletto: è una apu?
[11:32] <cristian_c> cpu+gpu
[11:32] <carletto> usa lo stesso slot di quella che abbiamo tolto
[11:32] <cristian_c> carletto: non ho capito
[11:33] <cristian_c> carletto: quindi la scheda grafica non si può rimuovere dal case?
[11:33] <carletto> si puo rimuovere
[11:33] <cristian_c> carletto: ulteriore prova: prova a rimuovere l'hard disk
[11:33] <cristian_c> carletto: ok, allora prova con scheda grafica e senza
[11:33] <cristian_c> carletto: con hard disk e senza
[11:33] <cristian_c> e vedi come si comporta
[11:34] <carletto> ok
[11:34] <carletto> seguirò i tuoi consigli
[11:34] <carletto> debbo verificare tutto
[11:34] <cristian_c> sì, tutte queste prove
[11:34] <cristian_c> e poi ci fai sapere
[11:34] <carletto> e localizzare il poblema
[11:34] <carletto> capito
[11:34] <cristian_c> ok
[11:34] <carletto> si ok
[11:39] <cristian_c> 4 slot per ram ddr2
[11:40] <cristian_c> due banchi occupati con due banchi da 2 gb ciascuno sk hynix
[11:43] <cristian_c> carletto: vedo che nonostante la ram e la scheda grafica, il pc è vecchio
[11:43] <cristian_c> carletto: prova una xubuntu
[11:50] <carletto> xubuntu?
[11:50] <cristian_c> carletto: sì
[11:50] <carletto> tipo?
[11:50] <cristian_c> !derivate | carletto
[11:51] <ubot-it> carletto: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/derivate | Download derivate: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download/derivate
[11:51] <cristian_c> !xubuntu
[11:51] <ubot-it> http://www.ubuntu-it.org/derivate/xubuntu | md5: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15.04/release/MD5SUMS
[11:54] <carletto> si sto vedendo
[11:54] <carletto> ho un'altro problema che non sembra proprio vero
[11:54] <carletto> ti mando una foto
[11:55] <carletto> stacco e poi ti mando una foto del mio Boot
[11:56] <carletto> ho una chiavetta pronta con il sistema operativo Ubunto 15.0 ma non me la fa installare perchè non mi riconosce la porta usb
[11:56] <carletto> ora la sostituisco on xubuntu 15.0
[11:58] <cristian_c> carletto: come l'hai fatta 'sta chiavetta?
[11:58] <carletto> in tutti i modi
[11:58] <carletto> ma non me la prende
[11:59] <cristian_c> carletto: specifica 'in tutti i modi'
[12:00] <carletto> ho montato l'iso scaricato sulla chiavetta
[12:00] <cristian_c> e specifica anche 'non me la prende'
[12:00] <carletto> poi ho preso sotto windows un programma
[12:00] <cristian_c> carletto: e come hai montato 'sta iso?
[12:00] <carletto> anche con un programma
[12:00] <carletto> mi sembra linux etc
[12:01] <cristian_c> !dettagli | carletto
[12:01] <ubot-it> carletto: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[12:01] <carletto> sotto windows
[12:01] <ExPBoy> ?
[12:01] <cristian_c> carletto: che se no, ci giriamo i pollici
[12:01] <ExPBoy> e anche altro :)
[12:02] <carletto> ma il problema e il bios
[12:02] <carletto> che non mi da la selezione della strat con usb
[12:03] <cristian_c> carletto: il problema è che non rispondi alle domande che ti sono state poste
[12:03] <ExPBoy> carletto, a quanto pare quel pc è datato
[12:03] <carletto> ha 7 anni
[12:03] <carletto> circa
[12:03] <ExPBoy> appunto
[12:03] <ExPBoy> 7 anni per un pc corrispondo a 70 per mia nonna
[12:04] <cristian_c> cristian_c> carletto: e come hai montato 'sta iso?
[12:04] <carletto> con un programma
[12:05] <carletto> che si chiama
[12:05] <carletto> linx ... etc
[12:05] <ExPBoy> bha
[12:05] <carletto> non ricordo bene
[12:05] <cristian_c> !usbwin | carletto
[12:05] <ubot-it> carletto: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[12:05] <carletto> sotto windows
[12:05] <ExPBoy> carletto, risulta difficile poterti aiutare se non fornisci informazioni
[12:06] <carletto> si ma non ricordo il programma preciso
[12:06] <cristian_c> carletto: scarica universal usb installer , e segui le indicazioni
[12:06] <cristian_c> carletto: se la scheda madre supporta il boot da usb
[12:07] <cristian_c> carletto: sì, ma leggi quanto suggerito dal bot
[12:07] <cristian_c> che non sta lì per caso
[12:07] <carletto> si ok
[12:07] <carletto> lo faccio e vi dico
[12:35] <rita__> Ho creato una linux live usb con l'apposito programma e una ubuntu 14.10, che risulta una versione inesistente e COMPLETAMENTE IN INGLESE (anche se la lingua è in italiano). Ho creato una nuova live usb con Lubuntu 15.04 ma non riesco ad avviarla. Vorrei eliminare Ubuntu 14.10 e\o formattare l'hard disk (appena cambiato, quindi non ho nessun docum
[12:35] <rita__> ento). Come faccio???
[12:37] <Carlin0> rita__, la 14.10 è fuori supporto , usa la 14.04 o la 15.10
[12:57] <ExPBoy> ecco
[13:19] <ef> come faccio ad aprire il corrispondente di gestione attivita (ctrl-alt-canc) di windows?
[13:20] <astro96> ciao
[13:20] <ef> nessuno mi puo rispondere?
[13:20] <f843d0> ef: a che scopo?
[13:20] <cristian_c> !nessuno | ef
[13:20] <ubot-it> ef: se nessuno parla in canale non significa che non ci siano utenti attivi. Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno vorrà rispondervi lo farà
[13:21] <ef> chiudere un programma che non risponde
[13:21] <ef> sweet home
[13:21] <cristian_c> ef: e aggiungo che non hai avuto la pazienza di aspettare due minuti
[13:21] <astro96> vorrei installare ubuntu sul computer tramte usb ma senza fare la partizione del disco , si può fare?
[13:21] <cristian_c> ef: lo puoi killare dal gestore processi
[13:21] <f843d0> ef: il programma e` su interfaccia grafica?
[13:22] <ef> gestore processi?
[13:22] <cristian_c> ef: a me il gestore processi si apre con ctrl+alt+canc
[13:22] <astro96> in che senso? non sono molto pratico in queste cose
[13:22] <cristian_c> ef: che ubuntu stai usando?
[13:22] <cristian_c> ottimo
[13:22] <f843d0> cristian_c: ho come l'impressione che Ctrl+Alt+Del gli abbia riavviato X :)
[13:23] <cristian_c> f843d0: dipende dal de
[13:23] <astro96> vorrei usaere l'ultimo
[13:23] <f843d0> astro96: Non e` possibile: vorrei installare ubuntu sul computer tramte usb ma senza fare la partizione del disco
[13:24] <f843d0> astro96: puoi creare un device USB persistente con Ubuntu per essere utilizzato on the fly...
[13:24] <astro96> e come si fa ?
[13:24] <f843d0> astro96: ma se non installi sul disco di un computer, Ubuntu non e` installato sul computer
[13:24] <cristian_c> astro96: su usb la velocità e le prestazioni sono ridotte
[13:25] <cristian_c> astro96: e la usb , usata in questo modo, si degrada col tempo
[13:25] <astro96> ora ho ubuntu sulla chiavetta usb , quindi dovrei fare la partizione ?
[13:28] <cristian_c> astro96: sei in live?
[13:29] <astro96> ora si
[13:30] <cristian_c> astro96: allora ti serve un secondo supporto
[13:30] <cristian_c> astro96: ma ripeto, te lo sconsiglio, utilizzare un normale hard disk
[13:31] <astro96> il fatto è che il computer è nuovo
[13:31] <astro96> non so se mi conviene ripartirlo
[13:31] <cristian_c> su sata
[13:31] <cristian_c> -re
[13:35] <cristian_c> astro96: per capire se ti convenga farlo
[13:36] <astro96> cosa mi consiglia?
[13:37] <cristian_c> astro96: fai qualche prova in live
[13:37] <cristian_c> astro96: oppure installa ubuntu in macchina virtuale
[13:38] <astro96> virtual box?
[13:38] <Marco8767888> ragazzi buongiorno,non so se ieri qualcuno ha seguito la mia conversazione con cristian_c.
[13:39] <Marco8767888> ma io ho un problema con la tastiera bluetooth e stamattina sono riuscito finalmente ad accoppiarla con il mio device
[13:39] <Marco8767888> pc
[13:39] <f843d0> astro96: si, per esempio. Ma dipende da cosa devi fare
[13:39] <Marco8767888> cristian sei disponibile
[13:39] <astro96> dovrei programmare
[13:39] <Marco8767888> ?
[13:40] <f843d0> astro96: dipende da cosa devi programmare. Per esempio, l'accelerazione 3D e` pessima in VM
[13:40] <Marco8767888> ma a ogni riavvio a volte funge a volte no
[13:41] <astro96> no sono ancora alle basi
[13:41] <astro96> ad esempio le funzioni e prorammi elementari
[13:42] <f843d0> astro96: dunque la soluzione VM dovrebbe soddisfare le richieste
[13:43] <cristian__c> astro96: hai un pc desktop?
[13:43] <Marco8767888> io si
[13:43] <Marco8767888> no
[13:43] <Marco8767888> un notebook
[13:45] <astro96> un notebook
[13:45] <astro96> lenovo
[13:45] <cristian_c> astro96: puoi comunque realizzare una piccola partizione, per provare
[13:47] <astro96> ora sto istallando virtual box
[13:49] <Marco8767888> cristian_c ci sei?
[13:51] <astro96> se dopo faccio la partizione quanto spazio dovrei lasciare per ubuntu?
[13:53] <cristian_c> astro96: hai windows 8 sul pc?
[13:53] <astro96> si
[13:56] <Marco8767888> ce qualcuno disponibie?
[13:56] <cristian_c> astro96: hai spazio non partizionato nell'hard disk?
[14:11] <rita__> Qualcuno può dirmi come faccio a cambiare versione di ubuntu?
[14:11] <rita__> e a disinstallare quella che ho magari?
[14:12] <cristian_c> rita__: mi pare che ti avessero risposto
[14:13] <cristian_c> rita__: intanto hai scaricato la 15.04?
[14:16] <rita__> sì
[14:17] <rita__> ho scaricato la 15.10
[14:17] <rita__> ma ora sto facendo l'aggiornamento alla 15.04
[14:17] <cristian_c> rita__: se è lubuntu, masterizzala su un cd
[14:17] <rita__> credo di aver risolto
[14:34] <rita__> se faccio una presentazione o un documento di testo con libreoffice posso aprirlo con altri programmi su altri computer? per esempio power point o open office
[14:36] <f843d0> rita__: puoi salvare i documenti di libreoffice in diversi formati, alcuni compatibili con altre suite office. Ma in generale la compatibilita` non e` altissima. YMMV
[14:40] <rita__> grazie mille
[14:44] <cristian_c> rita__: se vuoi avere una compatibilità migliore, ti conviene installare libreoffice e simili su altri pc
[14:44] <cristian_c> o meglio tutti i programmi che supportano open document
[14:45] <rita__> cioè?
[14:46] <cristian_c> rita__: le presenzationi in libreoffice vengono salvate automaticamente con estensione .ods
[14:46] <cristian_c> scusa, .odp
[14:46] <cristian_c> puoi anche salvare in .ppt, il formato di office
[14:47] <cristian_c> ma la compatibilità sai essere sicura solo con programmi che supportano l'estensione .odp
[14:48] <rita__> farò un paio di prove per essere sicura. grazie
[15:20] <astro96> in che senso?
[15:21] <krabador> astro96, a quante ore fa , risale cio' di cui stai domandando?
[15:23] <astro96> circa 1
[15:24] <krabador> astro96, diciamo pure una e mezza
[15:24] <astro96> forse si
[15:24] <krabador> astro96, potresti , visto che passano ore, fare una domanda precisa?
[15:24] <astro96> ma ho dovuto lasciare
[15:24] <astro96> hai spazio non partizionato nell'hard disk?
[15:25] <krabador> bene
[15:25] <krabador> tu ce l'hai ?
[15:25] <astro96> si
[15:25] <krabador> ecco, perchè ti è stato chiesto?
[15:25] <astro96> quanto me ne potebbe servire
[15:26] <astro96> per mettere ubuntu
[15:26] <krabador> 20 giga possono andare, se non fai home separata
[15:26] <krabador> ma non devi metterci dentro troppa roba
[15:27] <astro96> ma poi per toglierlo come si fa?
[15:28] <krabador> cancelli partizione riassegni spazio , ripristini mbr originale
[15:28] <krabador> astro96, quindi prendi una decisione chiara
[15:29] <astro96> va bene
[15:29] <astro96> grazie per tutto
[15:29] <astro96> buona serata
[15:29] <krabador> in bocca al lupo per tutto
[15:30] <astro96> crepi
[15:30] <krabador> astro96, fatti qualche domanda in piu', nell'ottica di approcciare con liinux
[15:31] <astro96> linux come è come sistema operativo?
[15:31] <krabador> manovre di installazione e disinsinstallazione, non sono esenti da rischi. con mani inesperte puoi fare danni anche irreversibili
[15:31] <krabador> astro96, un sistema operativo
[15:31] <krabador> astro96, google non funziona?
[15:32] <krabador> !chat | astro96
[15:32] <ubot-it> astro96: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:32] <astro96> okay
[15:34] <astro96> comunque per ora installo virtual box
[15:35] <krabador> !chat | astro96
[15:35] <ubot-it> astro96: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[15:35] <krabador> astro96, informazioni sull'adozione di un sistema operativo e sulle sue modalità , sono legate strettamente agli obiettivi dell'utente
[15:37] <astro96> okay
[17:07] <plm> cristian_c, krabador http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2099479
[17:27] <krabador> sanbasso
[17:36] <astro96> ciao , perche mi esce da virtual box l'accelerazione hardware vt....?
[17:37] <krabador> !virtualbox | astro96
[17:37] <ubot-it> astro96: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox
[17:42] <Guest92905> Ciao a tutti. Ho un pc windows con una macchina virtuale su cui c'è Ubuntu. Non riesco a condividere cartelle. Qualcuno riesce ad aiutarmi?
[17:43] <krabador> Guest92905, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox#Configurazione
[17:44] <astro96> ho windows 8.1
[17:44] <astro96> che virtual box devo mettere?
[17:45] <krabador> astro96, non riguarda questo canale
[17:45] <krabador> leggi la loro documentazione.
[17:45] <astro96> dove?
[17:45] <krabador> astro96, cristian_c l'ha trovata come inserto di Repubblica, il venerdì
[17:47] <Guest92905> Krabador: Io ho Window installato e su di una macchina virtuale Ubuntu
[17:47] <krabador> Guest92905, hai letto il messaggio ?
[17:47] <Guest92905> Krabador: si ... ma io non riesco a montare nulla
[17:48] <krabador> non hai letto il messaggio.
[17:48] <krabador> te lo riposto
Guest92905, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox#Configurazione
[17:49] <Guest92905> Krabador: Io sono qui: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox/Configurazione#Configurare_il_sistema_host
[17:50] <Guest92905> Metodo 1. Ho messo come cartella condivisa C:\Users\Michele\Documenti\MM (su windows)
[17:50] <krabador> Guest92905, abbi pazienza
[17:50] <krabador> ma nella guida
[17:51] <krabador> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Virtualizzazione/VirtualBox/Configurazione#Abilitare_la_condivisione_di_file_e_cartelle questo
[17:51] <krabador> non si vede ?
[17:51] <krabador> Guest92905, non ci occupiamo di virtualbox qui, ma del sistema operativo reale non emulato
[17:51] <krabador> ne' di virtualbox ne' di altre macchine virtuali
[17:52] <Guest92905> ah .. ok .. scusate. grazie comunque
[17:57] <The900> salve
[17:57] <krabador> !ciao | The900
[17:57] <ubot-it> The900: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[17:58] <The900> volevo chiedere, nel sito esiste una versione ubuntu 32 bit formato ova o ovf?
[17:58] <krabador> formato uova
[17:58] <krabador> The900, solo formato iso.
[17:59] <The900> e non conoscete qualche sito che permetta di sacaricare ubuntu 32 bit in quei formati?
[17:59] <The900> purtroppo windows 10 supporta solo la 32 bit con virtual box
[18:02] <krabador> The900, e scaricare la iso ti fa esplodere un braccio?
[18:04] <The900> cosa serve scaricare le iso se il programma non le supporta?
[18:04] <krabador> "purtroppo windows 10 supporta solo la 32 bit con virtual box" scarica ubuntu 32 bit
[18:04] <krabador> esiste.
[18:05] <krabador> forse non c'hai fatto caso
[18:05] <The900> come se non avessi già provato
[18:05] <The900> le versioni formato ova e ovf 32 bit quando le scarico non sono 32 bit
[18:05] <The900> ma 64 bit
[18:05] <krabador> non ci riguarda
[18:06] <krabador> qui si fa supporto a tutto cio' che riguarda ubuntu in linea ufficiale
[18:06] <The900> gentile come un palo nel culo
[18:06] <krabador> non sono ufficialmente supportate immagini di macchine virtuali
[18:06] <krabador> hahahahaahahhaahah
[18:46] <Mastino96> Salve, vi scrivo per un problema tecnico riguardante pipelight
[21:26] <ideabile> Ciao a tutti!
[21:26] <ideabile> Ce nessun siciliano qui?
[21:27] <Carlin0> !chat
[21:27] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[21:28] <ideabile> Grazie.
[21:33] <maxer> salve a tutti, domanda semplice, in firefox sembra non ci sia installato il vocabolario italiano, qualsiasi cosa scriva me la sottolinea in rosso.. cosa devo fare?
[21:35] <f843d0> maxer: probabilmente scaricare l'addon dizionario-italiano
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[02:06] <danes> buenas, hay alguna forma de mantener un video de youtube maximizado en una pantalla mientras que el foco esta en otra pantalla? Cuando maximizo un video de youtube y hago clic en alguna otra ventana, el video se minimiza
[12:45] <Xago> hola muchachos, estoy intentando hacer upgrade desde 14.04 LTS a la siguiente 15.XY LTS. cómo le indico a esa y no la 16.04 que me aparece por defecto con el comando "sudo update-manager -d"
[12:47] <MrTulias> Xago, la siguiente LTS seŕ la 16.04, todavía no ha salido
[12:47] <MrTulias> será*
[12:59] <Xago> pero ahora que estaba intentando actualizar me indicaba esa versión, pero que está en beta, aún.
[13:01] <MrTulias> Así es, saldrá en abril
[13:02] <MrTulias> Ahora está en beta todavía
[13:03] <MrTulias> la última estable es la 15.10, pero no es LTS
[13:32] <Xago> pero cómo le digo que quiero actualizar a las 15.04?
[13:32] <Xago> MrTulias, pero cómo le digo que quiero actualizar a las 15.04?
[13:35] <MrTulias> No sabría decirte bien, creo que hay que ir de versión en versión, tendrías que pasar por la 14.10, pero no lo sé seguro
[13:36] <MrTulias> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/179430
[14:39] <renso_> hay alguien por aqui ?
[14:46] <renso> buenos dias, alguien online ?
[15:25] <successus> salud
[16:20] <Xago> me apareció este mensaje de error, mientras intentaba realizar el upgrade: "WARNING:root:file 'utopic.tar.gz.gpg' missing"
[16:28] <mimecar> ¿qué versión tenías?
[17:58] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[18:01] <Xago> mimecar, 14.04
[18:02] <mimecar> estabas actualizando sólo el sistema o pasando a una versión posterior?
[18:54] <DELLtra> 0/
[18:54] <DELLtra> tengo problemas con squirrelmail
[18:55] <DELLtra> no logro configurarlo con imap 993
[18:55] <DELLtra> alguna idea
[18:55] <mimecar> ¿qué dicen los logs?
[18:56] <DELLtra> error connection dropped by imap server
[18:57] <DELLtra> es lo que sale en squirrelmail
[18:57] <DELLtra> no logro ingresar
[18:57] <mimecar> no te acepta la conexión, revisa el log del servidor
[18:58] <DELLtra> el servidor de correo esta perfectamente ya que lo probe con evolution envia y recibe correos
[18:59] <mimecar> tu mensaje dice que el servidor no acepta la conexión
[19:00] <DELLtra> si y lo que entiendo es que el cliente no logra conectar
[19:02] <mimecar> no lo logra porque el servidor lo desconecta
[19:03] <DELLtra> secure IMAP (tls) :false pero cuando la cambio a true
[19:04] <DELLtra> Error connecting to IMAP server: tls nombre.servidor.dominio 0:
[19:05] <DELLtra> mi duda es el modo de conexion ya que imap trabaja por 993 con ssl
[21:04] <uruk> hola gente
[21:06] <mimecar> hola uruk
[21:16] <uruk> hola mimecar
[21:17] <uruk> hice lo que me dijistes i copie todo en el usb pero en fat32 va bien sin fallos
[21:18] <uruk> ubuntu no tiene repositorios para ffmpeg?
[21:18] <mimecar> debería estar en los repositorios de terceros
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2015-11-29-#xubuntu
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[00:32] <Cossan> flocculant: my poweradapter was broke.
[00:32] <Cossan> WaynesKaffe>
[08:46] <sim642> Whenever my HP 840 laptop runs low on power and xubuntu enters sleep mode or something. After plugging in power and starting up, the fans drive at crazy speeds. Is there any better way to fix it than restarting everything?
[09:36] <flocculant> sim642: someone had a similar issue the other day - reported bug 1520242
[09:37] <flocculant> they also commented on the last answer in the stackexchange workround they posted in post #3
[10:17] <xubuntu76w> hi. How do I enable a USB mouse? Last time I hooked it up to my computer it did not work until I went into settings-->mouse and chose the mouse instead of the pad. Now the mouse alternative is not available.
[10:19] <xubuntu76w> I have tried all the USB ports but no luck
[10:23] <xubuntu76w> zzzzzz
[12:57] <Adrian_> Need help on installing bootloader
[15:21] <colombian_> &join
[15:32] <andyfied> hello
[16:20] <mariano> Is there a way to incorporate ubuntu's workspace view (for workspace management) on Xubuntu?
[16:29] <mariano> Is using compiz the best way to get workspace management like ubuntu's workspace switcher.
[16:33] <flocculant> mariano: I use something called Xfdashboard http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfdashboard/start
[16:33] <mariano> thank you, I'll give it a read. :)
[16:33] <flocculant> which afaik is in development - it does work, it's just not really pretty :D
[16:34] <flocculant> there is a xubuntu dev ppa holding that https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/extras
[22:29] <xubuntu83w> ,
[22:30] <xubuntu83w> hi
[23:28] <xubuntu95d> hey has anyone had a problem with their network manager not displaying any wireless connections on install of 15.10?
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[00:21] <Azi_> Hello people! Anyone around that could help me get Ubuntu 15.10 installed on a laptop that boots from a 32-bit uefi exclusively? I am at my wits' end. It's the Asus X205TA, https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ASUS_EeeBook_X205TA/specifications/
[00:22] <daftykins> the top google results discuss how to install and boot using 32-bit EFIs.
[00:22] <daftykins> also, you'll get more active users in #ubuntu - since it's midnight
[00:22] <Azi_> I know, I have read through all of them, this is WIP for about 1.5 months now. I really cannot figure it out unfortunately.
[00:22] <Azi_> And you are probably right
[00:22] <Azi_> I'll move there then
[00:23] <daftykins> well it's really not that hard, definitely seen the answers all online
[00:23] <penguin42> 32bit UEFI is hard
[00:23] <penguin42> or at least it used to be
[00:23] <Azi_> To me it is anyway, I'm a bit of a newbie
[00:23] <Azi_> But if you are going to call me a noob please help me, otherwise please refrain from doing so :)
[00:24] <penguin42> hmm looks like people have automated bits of it at least
[00:24] <daftykins> nobody said noob and that's not how we are, Azi_
[00:25] <Azi_> Yes, Debian boots 32-bit efis natively using a special build. However it came with a kernel that is too old for the drivers that I need and installing a new one on the machine with make was impossible since it was not preinstalled. I tried dpkg -i the .debs but the deps just would not end
[00:25] <daftykins> yeah we're not gonna help with debian (:
[00:26] <Azi_> Sure, I did not expect you to
[00:27] <penguin42> daftykins: I'm not sure it's that easy; it looks like a case of having to copy an EFI file in and install 32bit grub
[00:28] <daftykins> yeah that's easy in my book
[00:28] <penguin42> if it works
[00:28] <daftykins> don't see why it wouldn't since methods are all over the bug pages + guides + blogs etc
[00:29] <penguin42> yeh
[00:29] <daftykins> user came back in #ubuntu anywho
[00:31] <penguin42> hmm never bought off aliexpress
[00:32] <penguin42> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/CHUWI-HI8-Dual-Boot-Android-4-4-Window8-1-IPS-8-0-Inch-1920-1200-Z3736F/32404202301.html is way too good a spec
[00:33] <daftykins> cheap tat! cheap 'cause it's already been abandoned probably
[00:33] <daftykins> maybe that's fine if you're going to use ubuntu though :)
[00:33] <zmoylan-pi> or the keyboard comes without the letter e... :-)
[00:33] <penguin42> yeh it's an x86 with apparently a highres display
[00:34] <daftykins> after we were talking about those SSDs i found a 480GB for £70 delivered
[00:34] <zmoylan-pi> now that sounds pretty good, what manufacturer?
[00:34] <daftykins> it was mostly TLC based NAND though which is far from ideal
[00:35] <daftykins> SanDisk Ultra II it was
[00:35] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh, but SanDisk normally know how to keep the bits on their flash
[00:36] <daftykins> i wouldn't think that a given since Samsung have been doing it longer and have had more issues with one of their models' firmware
[00:36] <daftykins> ugh that guy is not taking the hint about not PMing people
[00:37] <penguin42> longer than sandisk?
[00:40] <daftykins> yip
[00:40] <daftykins> i nearly went for it but decided no, now it's back up to £85 delivered i think
[00:40] <daftykins> spent way too much these past few days :>
[00:41] <zmoylan-pi> should be called red credit card bill day :-)
[00:41] <daftykins> or week!
[00:41] <daftykins> saw a very nice 2560x1440 27" Asus LCD on ebuyer.com for £160 though
[00:44] <penguin42> I've been kind of tempted by a 4k monitor, but it's kind of silly in the sense I've got a HD 22 and 24 on my desk, and an unopened 24 on the floor (that's been there for 18 months)
[00:45] <daftykins> :O
[00:45] <daftykins> i'd get annoyed using 2+ that aren't identical, due to the different colours etc
[00:45] <zmoylan-pi> you could hang it over the window and stream the outside when you want to look out? :-)
[00:45] * penguin42 doesn't care, vi is good on both of them
[00:46] <daftykins> but only stream the summer!
[00:46] <zmoylan-pi> and have videos of rollercoasters and sea views for when visitors arrive
[00:47] <zmoylan-pi> watching the horizon whizzing around or sloping from side to side will trigger motion sickness in a few
[00:53] <daftykins> still got this funky NAS to play with
[00:53] * zmoylan-pi listens to wind howl outside...
[00:58] <daftykins> alright, two intel SSDs with no partitions, surely that's enough for a little appliance NAS to take them over
[01:12] <daftykins> http://mybookworld.wikidot.com/ultra-fast-install-for-my-book-world-edition-i-and-ii-white
[01:12] <daftykins> ah-har so the NAS isn't bright enough to initialise disks by itself
[01:39] <daftykins> that's brilliant, full set of scripts for preparing the disks... just had to edit it to set 'sdx', serial numbers and its' MAC address... then it downloads the latest firmware from WD automatically and prepares the drive :D
[01:46] <penguin42> updating the firmware is an interesting trick
[01:46] <daftykins> nah not an update, it obtains a full copy of the original then extract it onto the disk with dd
[01:47] <daftykins> after partitioning
[01:50] <penguin42> oh is this NAS firmware or drive firmware?
[01:52] <intrbiz> I'd avoid Dell rebadged Sandisk SSDs, performance of them is pants compared to Crucial MX200 or Samsung 850 EVO
[01:56] <daftykins> penguin42: NAS yep
[01:58] <penguin42> ah ok
[01:59] <daftykins> oh my word it's back in action :D
[01:59] <daftykins> i've put 2 x 40GB intel SSDs in it
[02:00] <penguin42> 2x40 - huge :-)
[02:00] <daftykins> hehe
[02:00] <daftykins> they are the only spare drives i have identical for it to be tested with
[02:00] <daftykins> the web admin always used to absolutely crawl, now it's instant
[02:01] <daftykins> hahaha
[02:01] <daftykins> 11/28 17:54:28 [HDD Status] Hard drive 3 and 4 not manufactured by WD. My Book World Edition II can only operate using WD hard drives. Replace the drive.
[02:01] <daftykins> rubbish :P
[09:25] <directhex> my NAS is too slow to let me watch HD video over UPnP. its crummy processor can't send the data fast enough
[09:25] <directhex> it's not a transcoding issue - the files are already in the right format
[09:25] <directhex> it just can't do plain file serving over upnp fast enough to not skip
[09:28] <Myrtti> Nabee compression socks have a sale https://m.facebook.com/home.php#!/story.php?story_fbid=718677388269934&id=161532537317758
[09:31] <xplora1a> directhex, are you sure it is the CPU, have you eliminated network, just asking
[10:26] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:35] <directhex> xplora1a: the network is entirely capable of handling the bandwidth, so if it's a bandwidth issue, that's still on the NAS
[10:36] <directhex> even 100mbit ethernet is more than enough for blu-ray dumps
[10:36] <zmoylan-pi> unless some device is acting up and flooding the network
[10:51] <pwaring> And assuming every point on the path has 100mb/s
[10:51] * pwaring tried to transfer several GB over wireless once
[16:26] <diddledan> evenin
[18:09] <Azelphur> Hey folks, got an app that is in a ppa but Ubuntu wants to use the one from its own mirrors, how do I fix that?
[18:10] <Azelphur> Specifically for deluged, the Ubuntu package is a bit naff (lacks an upstart script) while the official deluge ppa does not
[18:16] <pwaring> If you add the ppa using the instructions on the ppa page, Ubuntu shuld use the PPA version in preference to its own package
[18:16] <pwaring> I do that to get up to date versions of software like Ansible and Atom
[18:17] <pwaring> specifically: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[18:17] <pwaring> e,g,: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ansible/ansible
[18:18] <Azelphur> pwaring: nah, it's using the one from its repo because it's "newer" http://pastebin.com/LtE8wd32
[18:18] <pwaring> oh
[18:19] <Azelphur> might just pull the init script in and then use Ubuntus package
[18:19] <pwaring> In that case I think you can pin a particular version
[18:19] <pwaring> Never had to do that in Ubuntu
[18:20] <Azelphur> yea, then I don't get updates though :P
[18:20] <pwaring> I'm not sure if you can have it both ways
[18:21] <pwaring> Unless you create your own PPA :)
[18:21] <Azelphur> yea, I'll probably just pull the init script in
[18:21] <Azelphur> seems the best way :)
[18:23] <pwaring> You could ask on the mailing list, someone who does more on this than me might help :))
[18:24] <Azelphur> yea it's no big deal, the packages aren't that different an upgrade should go smoothly
[20:11] <directhex> Azelphur: "apt-cache policy pkgname" will tell you which versions apt knows about, and the priorities it's given to different versions. may help diagnose
[20:39] <daftykins> as mentioned it was version # based so wasn't gonna happen
[21:47] <Azelphur> I'm really confused about umasks, I have a umask of 0002 on my system, which according to everything I know would have me great files that are only writable by other (everything is off) what's the deal?
[21:50] <daftykins> great?
[21:51] <Azelphur> daftykins: 0002 is what a normal user has, a normal user by default does not create files that are only writable by other
[21:51] <Azelphur> eg with a umask of 0002 I touch test and I get -rw-rw-r--
[21:52] <daftykins> i wondered if you meant s/great/create/ was all
[21:53] <penguin42> it's the opposite isn't it
[21:53] <penguin42> so the '2' is masking out the w ?
[21:53] * Azelphur shrugs
[21:54] <Azelphur> ah I see
[21:54] <Azelphur> and 0 I guess does nothing then
[21:59] <Azelphur> penguin42: I'm still trying to figure out how to get rwxrwxr-x as a umask
[21:59] <Azelphur> and failing :<
[22:00] <penguin42> Azelphur: How do you mean ?
[22:00] <Azelphur> penguin42: I want files created by the user to be rwxrwx-x
[22:01] <Azelphur> I tried setting 0072 but no luck
[22:02] <penguin42> Azelphur: The application asks for a mode (say r/w) and that gets combined with the umask; so what you want only works if the application asks to create something rwx in the first place
[22:02] <Azelphur> by default the init script sets 0027, which gets rwxr-x---, maybe I should change that 2 to a 0
[22:03] <Azelphur> the application uses the default umask, I've been changing it
[22:04] <Azelphur> yay, 0007 got me what I wanted :)
[22:05] <penguin42> Azelphur: Each of the last 3 digits is the same, for user/group/other, and each digit is then read/write/execute (4,2,1 I think)
[22:06] <Azelphur> yea, I was a little confused as to why there are 4 digits and not 3
[22:19] <diddledan> Azelphur: a unix mode is four octal numbers 0000 thru 7777. you can ignore the first octet in chmod commands and such though. a umask is a different octal number which is subtracted from a specified mode which is usually 0777 during file creation calls to derive the value to actually assign the file. so a umask of 0002 subtracted from 0777 will derive the permission of 0775. the permissions octal number, being four
[22:19] <diddledan> values, assigns the "special flags e.g. sticky", owner, group, other.
[22:19] <Azelphur> thanks :)
[22:21] <diddledan> the reason the umask is called a "mask" is because the numbers are actually combined using a binary OR mechanism which is very efficient
[22:21] <diddledan> so the binary bits in the mask cancel out the binary bits in the requested permissions value
[22:22] <diddledan> I think it's OR, anway. my boolean logic is weak
[22:22] <daftykins> i was gonna try and say they might get ANDd or NANDd but i'm no mathemagician
[22:22] <diddledan> ello daftykins
[22:22] <daftykins> o hai der
[22:23] <daftykins> no reply from mr.shauno :(
[22:23] <diddledan> you spelt "dear" wrong :-p
[22:23] <diddledan> and hello darling
[22:23] <diddledan> :-p
[22:23] <daftykins> one might wager i did a lot wrong there ^_^
[22:23] <daftykins> that reminded me of Blackadder
[22:23] <diddledan> lol
[22:23] <diddledan> I might start making weird laughing noises
[22:23] <diddledan> like stephen fry's character
[22:24] <daftykins> do you have a questionable 'tache?
[22:24] <diddledan> there's a lot questionable about me :-p
[22:25] <daftykins> yay for the week ahead of deliveries
[22:25] <diddledan> ooh. toys
[22:26] <daftykins> yep :D
[22:26] <daftykins> laptop, SSD, blurry set, surface 4, phone screen :D
[22:26] <diddledan> why do PC monitors come in 16:9 instead of 16:10 these days?
[22:26] <daftykins> idiot pressure i would expect
[22:27] <diddledan> I've paired up two from different generations but because one is older than the other they're different heights
[22:27] <diddledan> due to 16:9 vs 16:10
[22:27] <daftykins> doh!
[22:28] <diddledan> the taller one has 1920x1200 and the shorter one 1920x1080
[22:29] <daftykins> arr my pair of 2408s are of the former, 'tis a nice res
[22:29] <diddledan> I just don't get why PC monitors need to be the same ratio as TVs at all
[22:30] <diddledan> I like wide-style layout, but don't see the need to be exactly TV-shaped
[22:31] <daftykins> shared panel production could factor in
[22:31] <diddledan> I guess
[22:32] <daftykins> what i laugh at is the industry 'caught up' by going wide, then cinema went to 21:9
[22:33] <diddledan> :-)
[22:33] <diddledan> we're stuck with TVs being 16:9 now
[22:34] <diddledan> all television video is produced in 16x9 and it just means we add a bit of blackbar for cinema
[22:35] <diddledan> it's still way better than playing a cinema 21:9 on a 4x3 tv
[22:35] <daftykins> i'm sure i read Kodi was meant to be introducing some feature in the next version that allows you to watch 4:3 somehow converted to make use of your wide TV without distortion o0
[22:35] <diddledan> o_O
[22:35] <daftykins> does not compute
[22:35] <diddledan> voodoo!
[22:36] <diddledan> https://boingboing.net/2015/11/29/millennials-are-cheap-because.html
[22:37] <daftykins> shift about material culture? yeah right when they all covet tablets and smartphones
[22:38] * diddledan fondles
[22:38] <daftykins> trust you to link to a site with that name :P
[22:38] <daftykins> that power drill possessing lass image is... novel
[22:39] <diddledan> yeah I was just looking at that gif
[22:39] <daftykins> i think it's matching my music
[22:39] <diddledan> I'm unsure what she's supposed to represent
[22:39] <daftykins> hey if you delete the '2' she's slower!
[22:40] <diddledan> o_O
[22:43] <diddledan> don't you find it odd how advertising companies don't have any adverts on their own pages?
[22:43] <diddledan> e.g. http://rubiconproject.com
[22:44] <daftykins> :D
[22:46] <diddledan> they speak a foreign language on that site: "Seller Cloud enables you to use your 1st party data to sell reserved audiences to the buyers who are in demand."
[22:46] <daftykins> that hurt my brain
[22:48] <diddledan> "connects sellers across a global landscape of trusted, high-quality buyers. Maximize yield for your inventory and audiences across all screens and formats"
[22:49] <diddledan> seriously they're just putting random buzzwords together and hoping it sounds good
[22:49] <daftykins> they don't think it be like it is, but it do - sir
[23:03] <diddledan> that was a film that was so outrageous that it was fun: the a team
[23:04] <diddledan> "they're shooting at the plane".. "no, they're trying to fly that tank"
[23:05] <diddledan> or similar lines - I forget the actual quote but the essence was "they're trying to fly that tank"
[23:06] <daftykins> ja :D
[23:06] <daftykins> hey i still have that! *plays*
[23:09] <diddledan> grrr @ english mis-use: "they utilise their unique talents and try to clear their names and find the true culprit" <-- the first "and" should be "to"
[23:09] <daftykins> i find 'and' is used to chain together anything folk want these days :<
[23:10] <diddledan> like people saying "I'll try and find foo" <-- try TO find foo!
[23:11] <daftykins> this are shenanigans up of which we shall not put!
[23:11] <daftykins> *these :/
[23:11] <diddledan> "I went and I looked for sweeties and I found some and I bought them and I ate them and then we went to the cinema and watched a cool movie and went home and played scrabble and my sister was funny and she put a naughty word and I laughed
[23:13] <diddledan> ^ a kid having just discovered "and" :-p
[23:26] <diddledan> -_- http://www.amazon.com/b?node=8037720011&ref=tsm_1_tw_s_amzn_290791026&linkId=19147631
[23:28] <penguin42> phew, it's not something else diddledan is going to make me buy
[23:28] <diddledan> teeeheee
[23:30] <daftykins> :D
[23:30] <penguin42> the video is nice; (on mute) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXo_d6tNWuY&feature=youtu.be
[23:37] <daftykins> "please check your garden" - oh no the bulldog is sunbathing out there! *AROOOOOO!*
[23:39] <daftykins> where's diddledan? he'd enjoy that line
[23:44] <daftykins> diddledan: ah the chopper flight at the start of The A Team is great
[23:51] <diddledan> 20% of children (12-15) think that if a search engine lists it then it's fact/true
[23:54] <penguin42> presumably that is heavily biased towards the 12 year olds and still most of them have got a clue
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[10:16] <martin04112015> servus
[10:16] <martin04112015> ich habe wieder mal ein problem
[10:16] <martin04112015> also immer noch das selbe
[10:17] <martin04112015> aber könnte mir mal jemand sagen wieso ich unter ubuntu keinen bootfähigen ubuntu stick erstellen kann ??
[10:22] <jokrebel> vielleicht (wie Dir schon mehrfach gesagt wurde) weil schlicht ein Stick ist, der das nicht kann?
[10:25] <martin04112015> er konnte es doch vorher auch oder wie habe ich wohl ubuntu von meinem laptop auf den stick bootfähig gemacht und dann damit ubuntu auf meinem rechner installiert ??
[10:26] <freakyy> ja is sehr komisch
[10:26] <freakyy> ich wüsste jetzt auch ned worans liegen könnte
[10:26] <freakyy> ausser natürlich du bootest einfach vom falschen device
[10:26] <freakyy> aber da du sagst du markierst immer den richtigen eintrag
[10:26] <freakyy> keine ahnung
[10:27] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: wie erstellst du den stick?
[10:27] <jokrebel> martin04112015: das wissen wir nicht
[10:27] <freakyy> mit unetbootin
[10:28] <freakyy> erstellt er ihn
[10:28] * jokrebel würde ja einfach mal den Startmedienersteller nehmen
[10:28] <freakyy> martin04112015: haste schonmal versucht dir einfach ne cd zu brennen? =)
[10:28] <martin04112015> ja aber vorher vorher formatiere ich ihn mit gparted in fat32
[10:28] * Frickelpit würde dd benutzen
[10:28] <martin04112015> dann bei unetbootin die iso von ubuntu rein und unten den usb stick auswählen
[10:28] <jokrebel> oder so
[10:28] <freakyy> ja ich habs ihm auch schon gesagt - einfach mal auch noch mti dd probiern
[10:29] <martin04112015> ich verstehe das mit dem dd nicht so wirklich
[10:29] <Frickelpit> weil?
[10:29] * jokrebel hat mit diesen komischen unetbootbingsbums keinerlei Erfahrung
[10:29] <martin04112015> was würdest du denn nehmen ?
[10:29] <jokrebel> martin04112015: Ist doch prima erkärt und wurde Dir schon vielfach verlinkt.
[10:29] <Frickelpit> dd, wie gesagt
[10:29] <freakyy> martin04112015: machs mit dd einfach nach nem tutorial
[10:30] <martin04112015> oki
[10:30] <freakyy> einmal den befehl erarbeitet hastes ja schon
[10:30] <jokrebel> oder aus der GUI den Startmedienersteller (nochmal sag ichs nicht)
[10:30] <freakyy> mein ubuntu gnome is so geil ;D
[10:30] <freakyy> hab nochn extra theme installiert
[10:30] <freakyy> jetzt sieht das ganze richtig gut aus :D
[10:31] <freakyy> und auf evolution bin ich auch umgestiegen von thunderbird
[10:31] <freakyy> weil aht bessere integration
[10:31] <Frickelpit> freakyy: für allgemeines getratsche gibts den offtopic channel
[10:32] <freakyy> sorry
[10:32] <freakyy> wie heisst der offtopic channel?
[10:32] <freakyy> ah hab schon
[10:33] <jokrebel> freakyy: Enter ist kein Satzzeichen
[10:34] <freakyy> hm
[10:35] <freakyy> im tweak tool hab ich eingestellt, dass ubuntu sich herunterfahren soll on low battery, aber wenn ich auf die settings gehe vom panel, steht da er wird in hibernate gehen - und anklicken kann ichs ned - was is da los? =) (ubuntu-gnome)
[10:40] <freakyy> http://imgur.com/w850k3m hier is link ... da steht hibernate und ich kanns nicht anklicken
[10:42] <martin04112015> kennt sich vllt jemand mit virtual box aus unter ubuntu ??
[10:44] <martin04112015> also habe es mal probiert mit dems tartmedienersteller,aber der sagt fehler bootloader konnte nicht isntalliert werden
[10:44] <freakyy> ich hab noch ein problem. gnome-screenshot speichert einfach alle screenshots unter pictures und nicht unter pictures/screenshots/ kann ich das irgendwie ändern?
[10:44] <martin04112015> ich probiere es nochmal mit dd anleitung.
[10:45] <freakyy> ich hab shcon gnome-screenshot -i ausgeführt, und das verzeichnis angegeben. den einen screenshot speichert er dann in screenshots/ aber nicht die folgenden?
[10:47] <jokrebel> martin04112015: wird schon hinüber sein der stick
[10:54] <martin04112015> mhh
[10:59] <martin04112015> kann das vllt auch daran liegen das ich einen usb 3.0 stick habe und mein pc so alt ist das er vllt nur usb 1.0 hat oder so ??
[11:02] <jokrebel> ich dachte es ging schon mal?
[11:05] <freakyy> martin04112015: nein daran kanns end liegen
[11:08] <martin04112015> also habe nach geschaut laut bios habe ich einen usb 2.0 controller
[11:22] <koegs> Das ist total egal
[11:24] <LupusE_> martin04112015: es gibt einfach flashspeicher, von denne kann man nicht booten. der vorteil von denne : sie sind billig. weil sie sich an keinerlei standards halten.
[11:24] <LupusE_> ich denke du hast kein equipment um das zu debuggen, daher solltest du einfach einen anderen stick nutzen.
[11:24] <martin04112015> ne ein flashspeicher ist das nicht
[11:25] <martin04112015> es ging ja vorher auch die ganze zeit
[11:25] <martin04112015> prbiere das gerade mal mit dem dd aus
[11:25] <LupusE> ein usb-stick, der kein flash speicher ist? interessant.
[11:26] <martin04112015> ja kp man
[11:27] <martin04112015> auf jedenfall hat es vorher auch funktioniert
[11:28] <smeexs> öffne mal laufwerke im dash und schau dir an was da wirklich oben ist
[11:28] <koegs> Mit dd das ISO direkt auf den Stick bügeln, normalerweise die einfachste und zuverlässigste Geschichte und in 5min erledigt
[11:28] <nagetier> martin04112015, dd wird dir sehr wahrscheinlich keinen uefi basteln
[11:29] <martin04112015> bin komplett überfordert
[11:29] <martin04112015> kann mir nicht jemand über team viewer oder so helfen ??
[11:29] <stevieh> hehe
[11:29] <martin04112015> und mir das dann neben bei erklären das ich das auch verstehe
[11:32] <jokrebel> das kannst Du nicht bezahlen
[11:32] <martin04112015> lol
[11:32] <smeexs> hast du niemanden in deiner umgebung der sich zumindest mit dem biops auskennt und dir das uefi abschalten kann
[11:32] <martin04112015> ne das ist ja das problem
[11:32] <koegs> So schwierig ist es jetzt auch nicht dem Wiki zu folgen
[11:33] <martin04112015> nin wegen ausbildung umgezogen
[11:33] <martin04112015> wohne hier seit 2 monaten
[11:33] <martin04112015> und niemanden in der nähe
[11:33] <smeexs> oder hol dir wenigsten wo eine cd um himmels willen
[11:33] <freakyy> also wie gesagt er muss da irgendwo ein sonderfall sein, bei mir hat alels ohne probs geklapt mit win10 und ubuntu
[11:33] <smeexs> gute gelegenheit die nachbarn kennen zu lernen ^^
[11:33] <jokrebel> koegs: Offensichtlich schon. Das zieht sich nun schon seit Tagen hin.
[11:34] <smeexs> er hat die sticks verbügelt , die werden inaktiv sein , ne kaputte bootflag oder sonst was in der art
[11:34] <martin04112015> ich mache das ja nicht absichtlich weil ich langeweile habe
[11:35] <koegs> Man kann keine Sticks verbügeln, wenn ich sowas schon lese...
[11:35] <nagetier> martin04112015, normal reicht der name vom board + "uefi abschalten" in einer suchmaschine vollkommen aus
[11:35] <smeexs> sicher kannst du das
[11:35] <koegs> Einfach ordentlich dd nutzen, dann ist eh egal was vorher drauf war
[11:35] <martin04112015> ja und in meinem bios von meinem laptop gibt es so eine option aber nicht
[11:35] <martin04112015> kp wieso
[11:35] <martin04112015> benutzerhandbuch durch gelesen nix gefunden
[11:35] <martin04112015> im bios jeden einzelnen punkt durch gegangen nix
[11:36] <martin04112015> ich kann das mit diesem dd nicht weil ich neu bin und es nicht einmal verstehe
[11:36] <martin04112015> wie soll ich es dann anwenden können richtig ??
[11:37] <freakyy> es gibt immer ein erstes mal ... du musst nur wissen wo die input file liegt, und was das output device is
[11:37] <freakyy> steck den stick ein und schreib mount
[11:37] <jokrebel> *doppelseufz*
[11:37] <freakyy> dann siehste wo er gemountet is
[11:37] <freakyy> denk ich mal ;D
[11:38] <martin04112015> habe ich gemacht und keine ahnung von dem was da steht
[11:39] <koegs> martin04112015: anstatt einfach nur sagen "kann ich nicht", setzte dich dran, lese und stell dann konkrete fragen was du nicht verstehst
[11:39] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: wenn man etwas nicht versteht, dann eignet man sich das wissen an oder fragt explizit nach. ein "ich kann das nicht" hilft nicht.
[11:39] <smeexs> schau im topic mit /topic und mach paste
[11:39] <koegs> So funktioniert das auch im richtigen leben, übrigens
[11:39] <smeexs> paste.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <koegs> Frickelpit: :)
[11:39] <Frickelpit> koegs: ;)
[11:40] <smeexs> und kopier den link hier rein
[11:40] <martin04112015> ja das kriege ich schon hin ^
[11:41] <nagetier> martin04112015, hattest du hier auch gelesen.. da wird auf "Defekter Startsektor" eingegangen - https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Live-USB
[11:41] <martin04112015> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556961/
[11:42] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: die Partition auf dem Stick ist unter /dev/sdb1 gemountet, der Stick selber ist demnach /dev/sdb.
[11:42] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: damit kennst du schonmal den Eintag für of= bei dd
[11:43] <martin04112015> ja und wie soll ich das machen da geht es los
[11:43] <Frickelpit> du brauchst noch if=, was die iso ist
[11:43] <jokrebel> das wurde doch alles schon mehrfach vorgebetet
[11:43] <martin04112015> mhh
[11:44] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: ergo trägst du bei if= im anschluss den pfad zu dem iso ein
[11:44] <jokrebel> und steht auch Haarklein im Wiki-Artikel
[11:44] <martin04112015> sudo dd if=/dev/sdX1 of=~/usb-stick.img bs=1M
[11:44] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: andersrum
[11:45] <Frickelpit> of=device if=img
[11:45] <martin04112015> sudo dd of=/dev/sdX if=~/usb-stick.img bs=1M
[11:45] <jokrebel> und wieso sdX1? Herrgottnochmal
[11:45] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: und nun mit if anfangen und danach of
[11:45] <koegs> Andersrum ist gut :D
[11:45] <Frickelpit> ^^
[11:47] <LupusE> ... und warum bs=1M? arbeiten wir mit akustikkoppler auf nem pentium III?
[11:47] <martin04112015> ne ist ein alter amd
[11:48] <martin04112015> athlon64 x2
[11:49] <nagetier> martin04112015, und denke an 'sync', wenn der dd durch ist
[11:50] <martin04112015> lol jetzt kann ich meinen usb stick auf einmal nicht mehjr einhängen da kommt fehler
[11:50] <martin04112015> Device /dev/sdb1 is already mounted at `/media/martin/64D9-3DD2'.
[11:50] <martin04112015> (udisks-error-quark, 6)
[11:50] <martin04112015> wtf
[11:51] <nagetier> martin04112015, welcher befehl?
[11:51] <nagetier> ok
[11:51] <nagetier> passt
[11:52] <martin04112015> ne habe den in gparted erst gelöscht dann im fat32 formatiert dann will ich ihn wieder einhängen
[11:52] <martin04112015> und dann kam diese fehlermeldung
[11:52] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: weil?
[11:53] <martin04112015> ja weil da noch das ubuntu drauf war was ich gerade nochmal versucht habe mit einer ander gui ubuntu drauf zu bügeln
[11:53] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: und?
[11:53] <martin04112015> ahh jetzt geht es wieder
[11:54] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: dd ist es ziemlich egal, was da vorher drauf war und aktuell drauf ist
[11:54] <martin04112015> ach so
[11:54] <martin04112015> ok
[11:54] <martin04112015> auf jedenfall ist der jetzt leer
[11:54] <martin04112015> of = war für das iso ??
[11:54] <martin04112015> also der pfad ??
[11:54] <Frickelpit> nein
[11:54] <nagetier> ich mag es wenn da zuvor keine partition drauf ist
[11:54] <martin04112015> ok der usb stick
[11:55] <martin04112015> also was denn nun den stick einfach löschen oder wie
[11:56] <martin04112015> also of ist der pfad des usb sticks oder wie ??
[11:56] <nagetier> martin04112015, ja, per fdisk.. und dort gleich ein "create a new empty DOS partition table" ausführen
[11:56] <martin04112015> also zb dev/sdb1 ?ß
[11:57] <martin04112015> kp wie fdisk funktioniert
[11:57] <Frickelpit> sdb1 ist die erste partition auf dem stick aber nicht der stick
[11:57] <nagetier> martin04112015, nein, wenn dein stick immer noch /dev/sdb ist, nicht
[11:58] <nagetier> martin04112015, sei da vorsichtig, fdisk ist gnadenlos :)
[11:58] <martin04112015> also wenn ich bei der gui laufwerke gucke steht da unten gerät /dev/sdb1
[11:58] <martin04112015> dann nehme ich fdisk nicht
[11:58] <martin04112015> mache ich lieber über gparted
[11:59] <nagetier> martin04112015, du musst dir nur sicher sein den stick zu wählen, und nicht deine interne datenträger
[11:59] <martin04112015> ok
[11:59] <nagetier> +n
[11:59] <nagetier> martin04112015, dann kannst und solltest auch mit fdisk arbeiten.. imho
[11:59] <martin04112015> ok ich versuche mal den befehl zusammen zu basteln
[12:00] <martin04112015> ist das eine gui oder alles übers terminal ??
[12:01] <nagetier> martin04112015, so wird das nichts.. du musst vorher lesen
[12:01] <nagetier> moment
[12:01] <nagetier> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/fdisk da ;)
[12:02] <nagetier> martin04112015, auch sollte der stick vorher ausgehängt werden
[12:03] <martin04112015> sudo dd of=/dev/sdb1 if=~/'/home/martin/Downloads/Windows64(1).iso' bs=1M
[12:03] <martin04112015> ist das jetzt so richtig ??
[12:03] <nagetier> nein
[12:03] <martin04112015> ??
[12:03] <nagetier> sudo dd of=/dev/sdb if=~/home/martin/Downloads/Windows64(1).iso bs=1M
[12:04] <martin04112015> sudo dd of=/dev/sdb1 if=~/home/martin/Downloads/Windows64(1).iso' bs=1M
[12:04] <martin04112015> so ??
[12:04] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: wieso eine Windows iso, ich denke du möchtest eine ubuntu iso auf den stick kopieren?
[12:04] <martin04112015> kann ich auch nehmen
[12:04] <martin04112015> oder muss ich
[12:04] <martin04112015> ich wollte es mit beiden probieren
[12:05] <nagetier> martin04112015, würde auch so den stick erst mal testen.. windows für uefi wird schwieriger
[12:05] <martin04112015> sudo dd of=/dev/sdb1 if=~'/home/martin/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso' bs=1M
[12:05] <martin04112015> so
[12:05] <koegs> Nein
[12:05] <martin04112015> ??
[12:06] <koegs> Was soll das ~ da?
[12:06] <nagetier> öhm, stimmt
[12:06] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: vergleich doch mal die befehle von dir und nagetier
[12:06] <koegs> Und /dev/sdb
[12:06] <nagetier> Frickelpit, ~ ist falsch :)
[12:06] <martin04112015> kp steht so auf der ubuntuusers seite
[12:06] <Frickelpit> nagetier: dafür sdb richtig^^
[12:06] <nagetier> klaro
[12:07] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: die backticks (') brauchst du auch nicht
[12:07] <martin04112015> also was kommt weg ??
[12:07] <Frickelpit> ~ und '
[12:07] <martin04112015> sudo dd of=/dev/sdb1 if=/home/martin/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso bs=1M
[12:08] <martin04112015> ?
[12:08] <koegs> Nein
[12:08] <martin04112015> was denn jetzt wieder
[12:08] <Frickelpit> sdb nicht sdb1
[12:08] <koegs> Und /dev/sdb
[12:08] <nagetier> martin04112015, if= ist richtig
[12:08] <Frickelpit> sdb1 ist die partition
[12:08] <martin04112015> ja aber im laufwerks gui zeigt er mir an der usb stick ist sdb1
[12:09] <koegs> Ließ doch mal was man dir schreibt -.-
[12:09] <freakyy> martin04112015: sdb is der stick. sdb1 is die erste partition dadrauf
[12:09] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: sdb1 ist die partition _auf_ dem stick
[12:09] <martin04112015> ach so
[12:09] <martin04112015> jetzt verstehe ich was ihr meint
[12:10] <martin04112015> sudo dd of=/dev/sdb if=/home/martin/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso bs=1M
[12:10] <nagetier> martin04112015, und dd "erstellt" da selber eine
[12:10] <martin04112015> kann ich das jetzt so eingeben ??
[12:10] <nagetier> jau
[12:10] <martin04112015> ok schauen was wird
[12:10] <nagetier> :)
[12:11] <nagetier> martin04112015, mit jau sollte ich da auch vorsichtig sein :) .. DU musste kontrollieren ob das so passt, insbesondere of= willst du korrekt setzen
[12:11] <nagetier> e
[12:12] <freakyy> ja of is ganz wichtig ... wenns dumm läuft und du was falsches eingibst, haste deine normale partition überschrieben ;D
[12:12] <martin04112015> also wenn mein stick anfängt zu blinken wie sau dann wird es richtig sein oder `
[12:12] <nagetier> ja
[12:12] <martin04112015> ja er blinkt wie sau
[12:13] <martin04112015> 1006+0 Datensätze ein
[12:13] <martin04112015> 1006+0 Datensätze aus
[12:13] <martin04112015> 1054867456 Bytes (1,1 GB) kopiert, 117,213 s, 9,0 MB/s
[12:13] <nagetier> martin04112015, wenn der durch ist, schreibe 'sync' in die konsole
[12:13] <martin04112015> und nun aushängen oder wie ??
[12:13] <martin04112015> ok
[12:13] <martin04112015> nur sync ohne zeichen ??
[12:13] <nagetier> jau
[12:13] <Frickelpit> der stick ist nicht eingehängt, ergo braucht man den nicht aushängen
[12:14] <martin04112015> habe ich
[12:14] <nagetier> martin04112015, dann boote jetzt davon
[12:14] <nagetier> oder versuche es ;)
[12:14] <martin04112015> mhh stick einfach raus ziehen und mit laptop booten ??
[12:14] <nagetier> lass doch drin
[12:14] <martin04112015> ne der muss ja an meinen pc
[12:14] <martin04112015> ich meine laptop
[12:15] <nagetier> ok, dann raus, ja
[12:15] <nagetier> durch sync sind alle daten aus dem ram auf dem stick gelandet
[12:15] <Frickelpit> beim start drauf achten, dass der laptop zuerst vom stick bootet und nicht von der internen festplatte
[12:15] <martin04112015> geht
[12:15] <martin04112015> wieder was gelernt dank euch
[12:16] <nagetier> ubuntu iso geht immer einfach mit dd
[12:16] <nagetier> und der stick ist startfähig..
[12:16] <nagetier> s/ubuntu/linux/
[12:17] <nagetier> und imho windows ohne uefi auch
[12:17] <martin04112015> ok und kriege ich das ganze auch mit windows hin unter dd ??
[12:17] <nagetier> martin04112015, kA, nicht mit uefi und unter linux vorbereitet
[12:18] <martin04112015> ok also muss ich im bios was finden womit ich den mist abschalten kann ??
[12:18] <martin04112015> aber finde einfach nix
[12:18] <martin04112015> kann mir da jemand helfen
[12:18] <nagetier> martin04112015, ich würde den stick jetzt wieder platt machen, mit fdisk
[12:18] <Frickelpit> welches board?
[12:18] <martin04112015> wieso wieder platt machen ??
[12:19] <nagetier> martin04112015, und zu uefi hatte ich dir gestern gesendet, der link von thomas krenn
[12:19] <martin04112015> ok
[12:19] <nagetier> der sah gut aus
[12:19] <koegs> Marrin
[12:19] <koegs> martin04112015: gib uns mal den link zum Handbuch des notebooks
[12:19] <martin04112015> ja aber der erklärt das mit unetbootin nicht mit dd
[12:19] <martin04112015> oder soll ich das kombinieren ??
[12:20] <nagetier> martin04112015, zeig mal her den link
[12:21] <martin04112015> http://www.toshiba.de/innovation/jsp/supportMyProduct.do?service=DE#tab4;
[12:21] <nagetier> hab schon :)
[12:22] <martin04112015> vllt muss ich ein bios update machen oder so
[12:22] <martin04112015> aber kenne mich da nicht aus und will mein bios nicht zerschießen
[12:23] <koegs> War gestern nicht Asus im Spiel?
[12:23] <martin04112015> nope
[12:23] <koegs> Der link führt nicht zum handbuch
[12:23] <martin04112015> also nicht bei mir
[12:24] <martin04112015> scheisse
[12:24] <smeexs> jupiter.workupload.com/download/ZzPXHdqR
[12:24] <martin04112015> genau danach wollte fragen
[12:24] <smeexs> das is das handbuch was er mir gestern geschickt hat
[12:24] <martin04112015> danke sehr smeexs
[12:25] <smeexs> von uefi secureboot steht echt nix drin
[12:25] <martin04112015> sage ich ja
[12:26] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: wie alt ist der laptop und welches windows war vorinstalliert?
[12:26] <martin04112015> es war windows 7 vorinstalliert
[12:26] <martin04112015> und der laptop ist ca 3jahre und 6 monate alt vllt sogar 4 jahre alt
[12:27] <martin04112015> bin mir nicht ganz sicher aber meine habe ihn 2011 gekauft
[12:27] * Frickelpit vermutet mal, dass das Teil gar kein UEFI hat
[12:27] <martin04112015> ich hoffe es probiere es mal aud jetzt windwos mit dd auf den stick zu bügeln
[12:32] <martin04112015> drückt mir die daumen
[12:41] <martin04112015> geht nicht
[12:46] <Frickelpit> martin04112015: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu/487970#487970
[12:46] <martin04112015> oki
[12:46] <martin04112015> danke
[12:47] <Frickelpit> grub hast du schon installiert
[12:47] <martin04112015> ??
[12:48] <Frickelpit> den musst du nicht nachinstallieren in deinem ubuntu
[12:49] <k1l> ganz im ernst: windows bietet selber tools an um auf einem windows einen windows usb stick zu machen. wenn man so wenig ahnung davon hat ist es einfacher an ein windows zu gehen und das dort zu machen.
[12:50] <martin04112015> wenn ich aber kein windows zur hand habe kill ??
[12:51] <freakyy> ich hab owncloud probleme aber in deren channel wollen sie mir nicht helfen weil sie sagen ich hab nen invalid cert
[12:51] <martin04112015> und nur noch ubuntu habe auf meinem pc ??
[12:51] <jokrebel> k1l: Inzwischen scheint er wohl einen ubuntu-Stick erstellen zu wollen, was auch nicht geht :-/
[12:51] <martin04112015> ging doch
[12:51] <martin04112015> mit ubuntu
[12:51] <martin04112015> habe ich doch geschrieben
[12:51] <martin04112015> mit dd
[12:51] <freakyy> ah ok ...
[12:52] <freakyy> ja dann mach windows auf die selbe art und weise drauf
[12:52] <jokrebel> na dann - kein Ubuntu-Problem (wie seit Tagen erzählt) Nur Dich interessiert es nicht :-/
[12:52] <martin04112015> doch ich hasse nur klugscheisser
[12:52] <martin04112015> die eingebildet sind
[12:53] <martin04112015> und dann so tun als ob man es wissen müsste weil es ja einfach ist
[12:53] <martin04112015> ubuntu ist halt nicht für jeden einfach zu verstehen
[12:53] <martin04112015> deswegen habe ich einen pc mit ubuntu
[12:53] <martin04112015> und einen laptop mit windoows
[12:53] <smeexs> mittlerweile gibts so viele games die auch unter ubuntu laufen , lass doch das windows windows sein und freu die über die ubuntu installation ^^
[12:54] <martin04112015> darüber habe ich auch nach gedacht
[12:54] <smeexs> oder machs wie ich , linux pc plus ps4 = ms freier haushalt
[12:54] <martin04112015> und mein laptop ist eh so alt das neue spiele nicht mehr laufen
[12:54] <martin04112015> ps4 habe ich auch
[12:54] <martin04112015> ^^
[12:54] <smeexs> na dann bitte ^^
[12:55] <martin04112015> gib mal dein name bei ps4
[12:55] <martin04112015> wenn du magst
[12:55] <smeexs> smeexs
[12:55] <martin04112015> was ein zufall
[12:55] <martin04112015> ^^
[12:55] <martin04112015> als hätte ich es geahnt
[12:56] <jokrebel> martin04112015: apropo klugscheißen! Hast Du bei den Windows-Usern überhaupt einmal kurz nachgefragt? Du bist hier seit Tagen am rumjammern, dass Du keinen Windowsstick gebastelt bekommst und unterm Strich bekommst Du ständig die selben Antworten.
[12:56] <martin04112015> ja habe ich
[12:56] <martin04112015> da sind immer nur 7 leute online
[12:56] <martin04112015> und der eine der da war und mir helfen wollte konnte nichts
[12:57] <jokrebel> dann nimm den Englischen Kanal. Es kann nicht sein, dass Du hier tagelang Dein Windows-Problem breittrittst.
[12:57] <martin04112015> wieso dazwischen hatte ich auch ein ubuntu problem
[12:58] <martin04112015> was wir jetzt ja auch gelöst haben
[12:58] <Frickelpit> jokrebel: ist es denn ein Windows Problem, wenn er mit Ubuntu den USB-Stick erstellen will?
[13:00] <jokrebel> Frickelpit: Nachdem die Erstellung eines Ubuntu-Sticks problemlos zu klappen scheint würde ich da schwer davon ausgehn.
[13:01] <martin04112015> smeexs
[13:01] <martin04112015> hast du meine einladung bekommen ??
[13:02] <k1l> Frickelpit: das drama geht hier shcon seit 3 oder mehr tagen so und endet immer darin, dass alle ubuntu user eingebildete klugscheißer oder anderes sind. dabei wurde hier ausgibigst versucht zu helfen aber es mangelt an bereitschaft zu lesen und konkrete anleitungen exact zu befolgen
[13:02] <Frickelpit> jokrebel: Das sehe ich anders. Er hat kein Windows installiert und fragt hier, welche Möglichkeiten er unter Ubuntu hat, einen USB-Stick zu erstellen. Welches OS da nun drauf soll, spielt erstmal keine Rolle.
[13:02] <smeexs> muss ich schauen , ich hab mir gestern bei kickass m&m clash of heroes geladen , fürs tablet , das zock ich seit dem wie wild ^^ ich schau dann
[13:03] <Frickelpit> martin04112015, smeexs: Bitte solche Gespräche ausserhalb des Support-Channels führen.
[13:03] <martin04112015> ich habe nie behauptet das jeder linuxer so ist oder ??
[13:03] <martin04112015> ok sry
[13:03] <smeexs> sorry
[13:03] <jokrebel> Frickelpit: Und es kann nicht sein, dass wir hier tagelang versuchen einen Windowsstick zu erstellen. Wenn einer einen Mint-Bootstick erstellen wollen würde mit Ubuntu wär er schon lange von allen ignoriert.
[13:04] <martin04112015> achso also heisst das nur weil ich auch windows habe darf man mir nicht helfen oder wie ??
[13:05] <k1l> martin04112015: nein
[13:06] <martin04112015> lol ohh ich bin so ein unmensch weil ich auch windows habe
[13:06] <martin04112015> was ist mit dir nicht richtig ??
[13:06] <martin04112015> bin ich deswegen anders oder wie
[13:06] <k1l> martin04112015: und da haben wir wieder das übliche theater
[13:06] <k1l> martin04112015: also kommt da noch was konstruktives heute oder war es das?
[13:06] <martin04112015> ja ne stellst mich hin als ob ich was schlechteres wäre
[13:09] <jokrebel> martin04112015: So, genug Offtopic
[13:09] <martin04112015> läft das eignetlich mit wine gut mitlerweile
[13:09] <martin04112015> unter linux ???
[13:10] <k1l> schau in die app database für die programme die du nutzen möchtest
[13:10] <jokrebel> probier es - wenn Du konkrete Probleme und Fehlermeldungen liefern kannst mach das. Umfragen sind hier nämlich auch Offtopic
[13:11] <martin04112015> ach so oki sry wusste ich nicht
[13:11] <jokrebel> martin04112015: https://www.winehq.org/ hilft Dir
[13:12] <martin04112015> danke werde es mal jetzt versuchen nur noch mit ubuntu auf dem laptop zu arbeiten
[13:13] <smeexs> martin installier dir playonlinux
[13:13] <martin04112015> ja hatte ich auch mal drauf und steam auch
[13:13] <martin04112015> weil steam macht da ja viel jetzt richtung linux
[13:19] <martin04112015> so es ist getan ubuntu ist auf meinem laptop
[13:20] <martin04112015> kein windows mehr ^^
[13:20] <martin04112015> kann mir jemadn sagen wie es aussieht mit ssd unterstützung unter linux ubuntu ??
[13:20] <freakyy> martin04112015: warum brennst du keine dvd?
[13:20] <freakyy> martin04112015: also so viel ich weiss unterstützt linux ssds
[13:20] <martin04112015> was soll ich brennen ??
[13:20] <David1977> Hier geht es einfach nur um Ubuntu Support. Ich sehe das wie Frickelpit. Er versucht unter Ubuntu einen Boot Stick zu erstellen. Die Antworten hat er ja bekommen und es schien wohl auch geklappt zu haben. Wenn es jetzt aber mit einem Windows Image nicht klappt (aus welchen Gründen auch immer) ist das hier aber leider die falsche Anlaufstelle, wo ich dann wieder jokrebel zustimme. Da muss man dann
[13:20] <freakyy> windows 7 dvd
[13:21] <freakyy> anstatt den stikc
[13:21] <David1977> ups....vergesse, weiter zu scrollen...bitte ignorierren
[13:21] <freakyy> ^^
[13:22] <jokrebel> auch die Debatten darüber was nun oder was auch nicht Support ist gehören hier nicht rein. Leute, bitte!
[13:22] <David1977> Ja, tut mir leider...kommt nicht mehr vor *großes Sorry*
[13:22] <David1977> *leid
[13:24] <David1977> martin04112015: bzgl ssd: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SSD
[13:25] <martin04112015> oki danke
[13:25] <martin04112015> komme mal über meinen laptop mit ubuntu in den chat bis gleich
[13:46] <martin__> so da bin ich wieder
[14:10] <martin_ubuntu> weiss jemand wieso ich auf mein ubuntu kein google chrome mehr bekomme ??
[14:12] <freakyy> martin_ubuntu: installier chromium
[14:13] <freakyy> is das selbe
[14:13] <freakyy> nur ohne google
[14:13] <freakyy> aber auch mit google integration etc. glaub
[14:13] <martin_ubuntu> ok
[14:13] <bekks> Und ohne Pepperflash.
[14:13] <bekks> Und genau deswegen möchte man Chrome eigentlich haben.
[14:13] <freakyy> ich benutz firefox
[14:14] <bekks> Das mag sein, bringt Dir aber keine Updates für Flash.
[14:14] <k1l> martin_ubuntu: warum bekommst du kein google chrome?
[14:15] <martin_ubuntu> bin auf deren seite gegangen und habe die 64bit version für ubuntu/debian runtergeladen und angegeben er solles mit dem software center öffnen
[14:15] <martin_ubuntu> kam fehler
[14:15] <k1l> welcher fehler
[14:16] <k1l> fehlermeldungen sind nciht zum wegklicken. sie sagen dir warum etwas schiefgelaufen ist und helfen dir die ursache zu ändern
[14:16] <martin_ubuntu> ja das es abgestürzt ist und ich es neu starten soll also das software center
[14:17] <k1l> im terminal "sudo dpkg -i chrome.deb" im ordner wo das chrome.deb liegt
[14:17] <freakyy> :D
[15:06] <marcus__> Hallo zusammen
[15:07] <marcus__> ich hab ein problem mit openvpn,kann ich dazu hier eine frage stellen?
[15:15] <ring0> marcus__, klar. am besten möglichst konkret. wenn jemand die antwort weiß, wird er sich melden
[15:35] <marcus__> ok,also ich bekomme beim verbinden zu meinem vpn anbieter die meldung:Netzwerverbindung hat eine zeitüberschreitung festgestellt. Hab alles nach anleitungsvideo von ibvpn gemacht. ich nutze ubuntu 14.04., dankeschön ;-)
[16:22] <martin_ubuntu> so spiel vorbei
[16:22] <martin_ubuntu> da bin ich wieder
[16:22] <martin_ubuntu> und habe leider das nächste problem
[16:23] <martin_ubuntu> kann ich unter ubuntu eine bestimmte hardware direkt ansprechen ??
[16:25] <k1l> prinzipiell ja
[16:25] <martin_ubuntu> weil ich habe das problem das mein wlan mir als deaktiviert angezwigt wird
[16:26] <k1l> "rfkill list" in einem pastebin. und pack noch "lspci&&lsusb" dazu
[16:26] <martin_ubuntu> ok
[16:29] <martin_ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/aLLCya8S
[16:30] <k1l> dann drück mal den hardware schalter vom wlan auf on
[16:30] <jokrebel> martin_ubuntu: Du hast einen Schalter oder per Fn-.Taste deaktiviert
[16:30] <martin_ubuntu> echt ?? ich habe solche tasten aber die benutze ich nie das ist ja das komische
[16:30] <martin_ubuntu> ok mom
[16:31] <martin_ubuntu> also habe jetzt diese fn taste und die f8 taste gedrückt wo das wlan zeichen ist
[16:31] <martin_ubuntu> tut sich nichts immer noch deaktiviert
[16:32] <martin_ubuntu> kann ich das nicht irgendwie über das terminal steuern ??
[16:32] <martin_ubuntu> bzw wieder aktivieren ??
[16:33] <k1l> guck mal mit "rfkill list" was passiert wenn du die tasten da drückst
[16:33] <martin_ubuntu> wie mienst du das jetzt ??
[16:33] <k1l> und guck nochmal nach, ob das ding nicht einen wirklichen hardware schalter hat. wäre nicht das erste mal das das jemand übersieht
[16:33] <k1l> martin_ubuntu: "rfkill list" vorher und nachher angucken"
[16:34] <martin_ubuntu> also habe den laptop schon seit ca 4 jahren vllt bisschen weniger hier gibt es keinen schalter ausserhalb
[16:34] <k1l> martin_ubuntu: und mach mal ein "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[16:34] <martin_ubuntu> ahh ok
[16:34] <martin_ubuntu> habe sudo rfkill unblock all
[16:34] <martin_ubuntu> eingegeben
[16:35] <k1l> jetzt guck mit "rfkill list"
[16:35] <martin_ubuntu> lol jetzt kann ich nichts mehr im terminl einfügen oder kopieren
[16:35] <martin_ubuntu> ^^
[16:36] <martin_ubuntu> ich kann nicht einmal mehr was im terminal eingeben
[16:37] <k1l> ja ich sehe nicht was du da machst
[16:38] <martin_ubuntu> dein ernst ??
[16:38] <martin_ubuntu> ich habe dein befehl eingegeben
[16:38] <martin_ubuntu> und kann jetzt im terminal nicht einmal mehr was eingeben
[16:38] <k1l> welchen befehl?
[16:38] <martin_ubuntu> jetzt hat es geklappt
[16:39] <k1l> martin_ubuntu: stell dir vor du musst deinem auto mechanik per telefon beschreiben was an deinem auto kaputt ist. "mein auto ist kaputt" hilft da auch nicht.
[16:39] <martin_ubuntu> ok
[16:39] <martin_ubuntu> Soft blocked: no
[16:39] <martin_ubuntu> Hard blocked: yes
[16:40] <jokrebel> martin_ubuntu: Du hast aber schon die " weggelassen?
[16:40] <martin_ubuntu> ja mom ich mache es noch einmal für euch
[16:41] <k1l> ist das nen acer?
[16:41] <martin_ubuntu> nein toshiba p775
[16:41] <jokrebel> Hard blocked yes heißt, Du hast entweder ein echten Schalter auf "aus" oder das ist per Fn-Tastenkombination deaktiviert.
[16:41] <martin_ubuntu> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[16:41] <martin_ubuntu> Soft blocked: no
[16:41] <martin_ubuntu> Hard blocked: yes
[16:42] <k1l> "lsmod |grep -i acer"
[16:42] <martin_ubuntu> wieso acer ??
[16:42] <k1l> willst du wirklich die lange technische erklärung lesen?
[16:42] <martin_ubuntu> ne
[16:42] <martin_ubuntu> ^^
[16:42] <k1l> also
[16:42] <martin_ubuntu> habe ich eingegeben kam nichts
[16:43] <k1l> ok
[16:44] <martin_ubuntu> was heisst das für mich ??
[16:44] <k1l> "wget -N -t 5 -T 10 https://github.com/UbuntuForums/wireless-info/raw/master/wireless-info && chmod +x wireless-info && ./wireless-info"
[16:44] <k1l> den report den es ausspuckt bitte in einem nopaste
[16:45] <k1l> der ist dann in wireless-info.txt in deinem home verzeichnis.
[16:46] <k1l> martin_ubuntu: also nach dem hier http://askubuntu.com/questions/351693/no-wifi-ubuntu-12-04-toshiba-satellite-p775-s7100 muss da ein knopf sein
[16:47] <martin_ubuntu> mom also der hat jetzt was ausgespuckt und mir das verzeichnis genannt wo das steht
[16:47] <martin_ubuntu> da soll ich jetzt hin und dir den inhalt geben ??
[16:47] <k1l> ja der hat einen report erstellt in der .txt. den bitte in einen pastebin service
[16:48] <martin_ubuntu> achso ok
[16:48] <martin_ubuntu> jetzt habe ich es
[16:49] <k1l> und ich wäre nochmal dafür, dass du ins handbuch guckst was mit dem hardwareschalter ist
[16:49] <martin_ubuntu> den gibt es wirklich nicht
[16:50] <martin_ubuntu> http://pastebin.com/dT6JWfgz
[16:57] <martin_ubuntu> ??
[16:57] <k1l> eigentlich sollte die karte klappen. softblocked ist ja auch no.schau bitte ins handbuch oder ins bios ob da nicht irgendwas auf off gestellt ist.
[16:58] <k1l> sonst frag mal im forum auf ubuntuusers.de ob die da wissen wie es bei dem modell geht.
[16:59] <martin_ubuntu> ok
[17:00] <k1l> und wenn man nach toshiba und p775 sucht, dann gibt es zig seiten die über einen switch schreiben ...
[17:02] <martin_ubuntu> was für einen switch meinst du ??
[17:04] <k1l> http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/krkljatorm/2012-07-07_150041_toshiba_2.jpg sowas z.b.
[17:06] <martin_ubuntu> genau und so etwas habe ich nicht
[17:07] <jokrebel> +gefunden ;-)
[17:07] <martin_ubuntu> es muss irgendwan mit dieser scheiss fn taste zu tun haben
[17:07] <martin_ubuntu> obwohl ich die nie benutze
[17:07] <martin_ubuntu> gefunden ??
[17:07] <jokrebel> sowas passiert schon auch mal versehentlich
[17:08] <martin_ubuntu> ja aber dann müsste ich wenn ich sie ja wieder betätige es sich rückgängig machen richtig ??
[17:08] <martin_ubuntu> tut es abern icht
[17:08] <jokrebel> martin_ubuntu: Lies Deinen Satz und ergänze es mit mit meinem Wort ;-)
[17:09] <jokrebel> vielleicht 2 mal versucht zu drücken und somit an und gleich wieder ausgeschalten kannst Du ausschließen?
[17:10] <martin_ubuntu> ja
[17:10] <martin_ubuntu> weil dann würde sich ja oben rechts das symbol ändern
[17:11] <martin_ubuntu> er zeigt das typische wlan zeichen oben an
[17:11] <martin_ubuntu> aber kann kein netzwerke finden weil es deaktiviert ist
[17:11] <jokrebel> nicht zwingend sofort - he nachdem was für "Zeichen" du meinst
[17:11] <jokrebel> *je
[17:11] <martin_ubuntu> soll ich euch eine screenshot machen oder wie ??
[17:12] <jokrebel> martin_ubuntu: Drück EIN mal die Die Fn-Kombination und sie nochmal mit rfkill nach. DAS kannst Du machen.
[17:12] <jokrebel> *sieh
[17:13] <martin_ubuntu> ok
[17:14] <martin_ubuntu> so habe jetzt fn und f8 gedrückt willst du jetzt die ausgabe von rfkill haben ??
[17:15] <jokrebel> wenn Du es nicht selber interpretiert bekommst ob da jetzt immer noch Hard blocked steht, ja.
[17:15] <martin_ubuntu> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[17:15] <martin_ubuntu> Soft blocked: yes
[17:15] <martin_ubuntu> Hard blocked: yes
[17:15] <martin_ubuntu> jetzt sieht es so aus
[17:16] <jokrebel> haha - doppelt ausgeschalten. Auch nicht schlecht
[17:16] <martin_ubuntu> ja läuft bei mir
[17:16] <jokrebel> Dann war das eher kontra-Produktiv. Such nochmal nach einem Schalter!
[17:16] <martin_ubuntu> es gibt hier keinen schlater
[17:16] <martin_ubuntu> schalter
[17:16] <martin_ubuntu> wie oft nooooch
[17:16] <jokrebel> Und mach das ganze natürlich wieder rückgängig.
[17:17] <martin_ubuntu> ja ich drücke jetzt wieder fn und die f8 taste
[17:18] <martin_ubuntu> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[17:18] <martin_ubuntu> Soft blocked: no
[17:18] <martin_ubuntu> Hard blocked: yes
[17:18] <martin_ubuntu> das ist das ergebniss
[17:18] <martin_ubuntu> und einen schalter gibt es immer noch nicht
[17:19] <jokrebel> martin_ubuntu: Möglicherweise könnt es auch im BIOS ausgeschalten sein.
[17:19] <martin_ubuntu> aber wie das habe da nichts verstellt
[17:19] <martin_ubuntu> ist bestimmt kaputt
[17:20] <jokrebel> oder so
[17:20] <martin_ubuntu> aber wieso wird er dann angezeigt
[17:20] <martin_ubuntu> aber sagt es ist deaktiviert
[17:21] <martin_ubuntu> kann ich jetzt der hardware nicht über das terminal sagen geh wieder an ??
[17:22] <jokrebel> schau doch bitte einfach erst mal im BIOS nach... *seufz*
[17:22] <martin_ubuntu> ok ich schaue mal wieder nach
[17:22] <martin_ubuntu> obwohl ich es vorher ging und ich f9 gedrückt habe für load defaults
[17:22] <koegs> martin_ubuntu: hast du zusätzlich zur FN F8 nicht noch ne WLAN-Taste überhalb der Tastatur?
[17:23] <jokrebel> wieso wieder? Nach WLAN schautest Du doch noch gar nicht...
[17:23] <martin_ubuntu> lol ja
[17:23] <jokrebel> soviel zu "nein da ist kein schalter" *facepalm*
[17:23] <koegs> alter! konzentrier dich mal und sag nicht immer "hab ich nicht", "kann ich nicht", bald hat keiner mehr bock dir zu helfen
[17:23] <jokrebel> ++ koegs
[17:25] <jokrebel> martin_ubuntu: Wir haben keine grpße Lust _Dein_ "Lernen durch Schmerzen" komplett zu übernehmen oder mit durch zu machen!
[17:25] <k1l_> martin_ubuntu: das ist jetzt nicht dein ernst oder?
[17:27] <k1l_> martin_ubuntu: wie oft habe ich dich gefragt ob du alle schalter gesucht und ins handbuch geguckt hast? am ende sind es wieder die eingebildeten klugscheißer von ubuntu schuld wobei es mal wieder deine unfähigkeit und deine blockhaltung gegen 2 min. lesen sind.
[17:27] <k1l_> martin_ubuntu: so hat niemand mehr bock dir zu helfen
[17:27] <jokrebel> es grenzt schon an ne Frechheit, dass andere "Dein" Handbuch lesen müssen um Dir die Knöpfe zu erklären, die ja angeblich nicht da sind.
[17:28] <martin__> nein ich habe die doofe licht leiste einfach vergessen oben
[17:28] <martin__> sry
[17:28] <martin__> naja egal besser ist ich verabschiede mich von hier
[17:28] <k1l_> man man man ey.
[17:28] <martin__> trotzdem vielen dank für eure hilfe
[20:52] <Heradon> Guten abend
[20:52] <freakyy> hallo
[20:53] <Heradon> Hätte mal eine frage an euch, ich habe vor system user nicht in /home/$USERNAME zu bannen sondern in ein komplettes chroot also das jeder user sein eigenens system hat. wüsste jemand von euch wie?
[20:53] <bekks> Der erste Satz ergibt keinen Sinn.
[20:54] <bekks> Was willst du wohin wie warum bannen oder auch nicht?
[20:54] <bekks> Und ist dir klar, dass system user kein Home in /home/irgendwas haben?
[20:54] <Heradon> also ich möchte wenn sich ein user einloggt das er in seinem eignen os ist
[20:54] <k1l> "einsperren" meint er wohl
[20:54] <Heradon> das heisst jeder user hat sein eigenes chroot auf meinem system
[20:54] <bekks> Heradon: Das sind dann aber keine system user. System user sind user mit einer UID < 1000.
[20:55] <Heradon> z.B. /var/jailed/$username
[20:55] <Heradon> bekks: entschuldige habe ich mich falsch ausgedrückt
[20:55] <bekks> Dann benutz doch jails, daher hast du ja deine Idee.
[20:55] <Heradon> bekks: genau da liegt der knackpunkt, die user sollen selbst programme installieren können und auch entfernen daher eher die idee eines chroots
[20:56] <bekks> Erklär mal den Unterschied zwischen einem chroot und einem jail.
[20:56] <Heradon> am anfang hatte ich an sowas wie openvz gedacht oder eben chroot
[20:56] <k1l> das klingt für mich eher nach containern.
[20:56] <bekks> openvz hat nichts mit chroot oder jail zu tun.
[20:57] <k1l> openvz ist ja virtualisierung. das ist ja wieder noch ne stufe höher
[20:57] <Heradon> in einem jail füge ich die programme für die user hinzu. z.B. /bin/bash in einem chroot ist der user dem es gehört könig
[20:57] <Heradon> das heisst der user kann selbst entscheiden ob er programm xyz installiert oder nicht
[20:57] <bekks> Nur weil ein User eine Shell hat, heisst das noch SEHR LANGE nicht, dass der User damit "König" ist.
[20:58] <Heradon> er soll per sudo zu root werden können und eben alles was root kann machen, aber eben in einem abgesperrten bereich (sowas wie chroot)
[20:58] <bekks> Und Programme kann jeder USer sowieso für sich installieren, solange er sie in seinem Home installiert - dazu braucht man weder openvz, chroot noch jail-
[20:59] <k1l> Heradon: schau dir mal container an.
[20:59] <Heradon> k1l: meinst du docker?
[20:59] <k1l> oder halt die vserver setups.
[20:59] <k1l> Heradon: oder lxc, lxd etc etc.
[21:00] <Heradon> ich glaube lxc ist genau das was ich gesucht habe
[21:01] <Heradon> k1l: und wie bringe ich jetzt mein ubuntu dazu einen user der sich per console anmeldet in so einen lxc zu werfen?
[21:02] <bekks> In dem Du dem User die Zugangsdaten zu dem Container gibst, und er sich in dem Container anmeldet.
[21:03] <bekks> Das ist im Übrigen der Sinn eines Containers.
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[12:26] <tantris> hi one question is autopiot still maintained and alive?
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[22:09] <leezer3_> Asking here as well; I appear to have become the upstream maintainer for a program that's in the Ubuntu/ Debian repos. I'd like to submit a patch for a couple of critical bugs, and also explore with the current Ubuntu maintainer the possibility of getting the current version pushed
[22:10] <leezer3_> i've tried getting the current maintainer through chat, but whilst i've had one email from him, mine don't seem to be being seen or replied to.....
[22:10] <leezer3_> kinda stuck :(
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[18:40] <olly_> morning
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-tn
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[00:01] <Hamzawi-Pythoni> hello everyone, I need Mr Nizar Kerkeni
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-gnome
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[00:49] <darkxst> eliasps, you done any C programming?
[00:50] <eliasps> darkxst Yes, I have.
[00:50] <darkxst> eliasps, ok got a fairly simple bug for to work on then if you want
[00:51] <eliasps> Ok, good! I wanted to get involved with this. I'll work on it tomorrow morning first thing because it;s 3 am here. What is it?
[00:51] <darkxst> vino part of bug 1518813
[00:52] <eliasps> Ok, bookmarked :)!
[00:52] <darkxst> vino-server needs to be patch to ignore the gsettings "enabled" key at startup when running under GNOME
[00:53] <darkxst> you can get the current DE with XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[00:54] <eliasps> It's GNOME, on xenial, so it's ok.
[00:55] <darkxst> eliasps, I mean you can check it from the C code, and then ignore the gsetting and just run server anyway
[00:56] <darkxst> session = g_getenv ("XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP");
[00:56] <darkxst> if (session && strstr (session, "GNOME"))
[00:57] <eliasps> Oh, got it! Thanks. I'll ping you when I have something, because I might need some guidance on uploading the patch..
[00:58] <darkxst> simple patches can be done with quilt new
[00:58] <darkxst> but generally I just use git, then export to quilt
[00:59] <eliasps> I'll use git as well at first then.
[01:01] <freakyy> hi all. is there any way i can change the profile picture at the gdm login screen?
[01:02] <eliasps> freakyy hi, you can through system settings > user accounts
[01:02] <eliasps> users*
[01:05] <freakyy> eliasps: thank you :)
[01:05] <eliasps> no problem.
[01:07] <LinDol> hi all :)
[01:07] <LinDol> good morning freakyy , eliasps :-)
[01:07] <eliasps> Good morning LinDol
[01:07] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Well, good evening, LinDol. :)
[01:08] <LinDol> Wow ;)
[01:08] <freakyy> hi LinDol
[01:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Central time, USA
[01:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Near Houston, TX.
[01:09] <LinDol> you are 8 PM?
[01:16] <darkxst> hey LinDol
[01:17] <LinDol> darkxst, hi :)
[01:25] <freakyy> what ubuntu gnome r u all using?
[01:26] <freakyy> i think i have .16 installed
[01:26] <LinDol> I have put ubuntu gnome 15.10( WW) :)
[01:26] <freakyy> yea smae here
[01:27] <freakyy> is there anyhting new ppl need to know?
[01:27] <LinDol> sorry, what does 'ppl' mean?
[01:27] <darkxst> freakyy, xenial
[01:27] <freakyy> whats xenial
[01:28] <LinDol> 16.004
[01:28] <darkxst> 16.04 development series
[01:28] <LinDol> :)
[01:28] <freakyy> ah ko
[01:28] <freakyy> ok
[01:28] <freakyy> i dotn want tht
[01:28] <freakyy> might be hanging in system and unable to do anything
[01:28] <LinDol> oh , on your 15.10?
[01:28] <freakyy> no on xenial
[01:29] <darkxst> freakyy, what do you want to know? just ask if you have questions
[01:29] <LinDol> ah... okay
[01:29] <freakyy> i was jsut curious if theres any must have app or something
[01:29] <darkxst> well we include app (what we believe) are must have apps in the default install
[01:29] <darkxst> anything else becomes, personal preference really
[01:30] <freakyy> ok
[01:30] <freakyy> are u from the dev team?
[01:30] <darkxst> freakyy, there is also lots of info on the wiki, but mostly aimed towards contributing to the project
[01:31] <darkxst> head dev
[01:31] <freakyy> oh ok nice ;D
[01:31] <freakyy> i like ubuntu-gnome
[01:31] <freakyy> but im really new to it so
[01:31] <freakyy> i cant say much
[01:31] <freakyy> may i tell u waht i dont like?
[01:31] <darkxst> sure
[01:32] <freakyy> i dont like the title bar of windows beeing so big and wasting space somehow ... first u have the taskbar then the title bar ... and the title bar is even extra big
[01:32] <freakyy> thats the only thing i dont like so far
[01:33] <darkxst> window titlebar or headerbar (the ones with buttons etc)
[01:33] <darkxst> there are probably themes that can make the window titlebar smaller
[01:34] <darkxst> the inconsistency of apps using titlebar vs headerbar is annoying, but can't do anything about that
[01:34] <freakyy> yes i need to ahve a look
[01:35] <darkxst> I have old school 4:3 monitors, so the height issue doesnt really bother me
[01:40] <freakyy> is this a theme i could use http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/zonColor+Themes+Pack?content=156189
[01:40] <freakyy> ? i mean its said to be for unity too
[01:42] <freakyy> and its from 2013?
[01:42] <darkxst> freakyy, it would need to specifically support GTK 3.16
[01:42] <freakyy> oh ok
[01:52] <freakyy> hm, i cant find a good theme
[01:52] <darkxst> numix is quite popular
[01:53] <freakyy> ok lemme check
[01:54] <darkxst> don't know if it resizes titlebars though
[02:04] <freakyy> no it doesnt resize title bars
[02:07] <freakyy> also firefox has a titlebar i dont think it should have one ... everywhere else the title bar was removed from firefox so itlooks like google chrome
[02:07] <freakyy> but yea i can live with it
[02:07] <freakyy> maybe one day it will get fixed ;D
[02:07] <freakyy> btw, is there any other popular theme?
[02:09] <LinDol> http://gnome-look.org/
[02:10] <LinDol> haha This is supported to you for modifying themes :)
[02:10] <darkxst> firefox still uses gtk2 on linux, so it will always have a titlebar
[02:11] <darkxst> one did when its ported to gtk3, it can be made to look like windows/chrome etc
[02:11] <darkxst> ^one day
[02:12] <darkxst> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/htitle/
[02:12] <darkxst> no idea if that still works though
[02:13] <freakyy> nah i dont wnna customize too much
[02:13] <freakyy> i will keep it like it is now
[02:14] <LinDol> oh
[02:15] <LinDol> darkxst, This extension will be hide THE titlebar that filefox has?
[02:15] <darkxst> LinDol, only when maximised and its old, don't know if it has been maintained for recent versions
[02:16] <darkxst> freakyy, try epiphany browser then ;)
[02:17] <LinDol> darkxst, thank you for your suggestion :) I will try to put this extextion ;-)
[02:19] <freakyy> darkxst: no id like to stay with firefox
[02:19] <freakyy> it has all my stuff synced through windows and linux
[02:19] <freakyy> and pcs
[02:25] <lindol> oh hohoho
[02:25] <lindol> When Firefox is maximized,
[02:25] <lindol> title bar has been hided :)
[02:25] <lindol> Thank you darkxst :)
[02:27] <lindol> oh yes yes good :)
[02:43] <darkxst> lindol, :)
[03:21] <freakyy> :)
[03:21] <freakyy> im off, good night all ;D
[03:22] <lindol> freakyy, have a great dream :)
[08:29] <lindol> I am translating WW release note to Korean.
[08:30] <lindol> After finishing to translate, Could i add link in original page?
[08:30] <lindol> because I didn't find any other languages on original page
[08:33] <darkxst_> lindol, I guess so, but don't really know
[08:33] <darkxst_> email the wiki/docs list perhaps?
[08:34] <darkxst_> there may even have been a translation team at one point?
[08:35] <lindol> um.. Okay, I am trying to translate release note to Korean first and then,
[08:35] <lindol> I will send email to mailing list to add link :)
[08:35] <lindol> for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME/ page :)
[08:36] <darkxst_> lindol, yea I got that, normally I would say just contact Ali, but think he is taking time off atm
[08:37] <darkxst_> lindol, we want better release notes for 16.04 if you interested ;) (english of course)
[08:37] <lindol> oh.
[08:38] <darkxst_> something more like a blog post, with screenshots capturing the new features ;)
[08:38] <lindol> 16.04 release note has been in our blog(ubuntu-gnome.org) already? :)
[08:39] <darkxst_> lindol, no, not yet
[08:39] <darkxst_> you could create it though
[08:39] <lindol> oh sorry for my misunderstanding
[08:39] <lindol> hahaha
[08:39] <lindol> i understood now
[08:40] <lindol> but I am not ready haha for creating original page :)
[08:47] <darkxst_> lindol plenty of time to learn
[08:48] <lindol> Thank you darkxst_ :)
[08:48] <lindol> you are my teacher haha
[08:48] <lindol> oh i have a good news.
[08:48] <lindol> when i was try to test for english specking,
[08:48] <lindol> I have gotten new grade
[08:48] <lindol> ;)
[08:48] <darkxst_> lindol, great!
[08:49] <lindol> Opic IM1 level
[08:49] <lindol> Thank you for your teaching and all of member in ubuntu gnome community :)
[08:50] <darkxst_> lol, you realise I am trying to recruit you for english tasks ;)
[08:50] <freakyy> hm i just installed http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Faenza?content=128143
[08:50] <freakyy> this icon theme
[08:50] <freakyy> it looks really good :)
[08:50] <lindol> darkxst_, haha thank you :)
[08:51] <lindol> freakyy, i think it was good
[08:53] <lindol> I think that icon theme looks like android or i os icon style
[08:56] <freakyy> lindol: i don tknow i like it. it are small handy icons and even the battery icon i didnt like was replaced ;D
[08:59] <lindol> haha
[08:59] <lindol> that is ok.
[09:00] <lindol> :) but I tend to like defaut theme haha,
[09:00] <freakyy> i have a question
[09:00] <freakyy> can i use this gtk3 theme, even though it is .18 and not .16? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/White?content=173840
[09:00] <lindol> After Ubuntu Gnome having a dark-themes.
[09:01] <lindol> I think it is possible
[09:02] <darkxst_> lindol, that is up to the artwork team
[09:02] <lindol> White 3.18.novo
[09:02] <lindol> GTK 3.x Theme/Style
[09:02] <lindol> ummm.
[09:04] <lindol> ohh :) time to have some dinner :) have a good time. :)
[09:11] <freakyy> ok i used another theme
[09:11] <freakyy> it looks really good
[09:11] <freakyy> u lov eit
[09:12] <freakyy> its called cetic-2 ... i use the ubuntu repo http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ceti-2+-+Theme?content=167528
[09:14] <darkxst_> freakyy, the only them I use, is the solarized terminal theme
[09:14] <freakyy> how does it look can u give me a screenshot?
[09:14] <freakyy> i use normal terminal with background
[09:14] <darkxst_> freakyy, just try it! its shipped with gnome-terminal
[09:16] <freakyy> oh how to?
[09:16] <freakyy> ah found it
[09:16] <freakyy> no ill stay with black on gray
[09:16] <freakyy> a bit transparent background
[09:16] <freakyy> and everything looks nice
[09:17] <freakyy> im here connected over ssh with my server, set up screen and in ther ei run weechat
[09:17] <freakyy> and thatshow i got o irc ;D
[09:23] <darkxst_> just saying solarized and powerline, make for a pretty nice terminal ;)
[09:24] <freakyy> :)
[09:28] <freakyy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9PxjOw3B_A heres my terminal ... the gtk theme etc. arent recent anymore
[09:28] <freakyy> i now use the vertex theme
[09:29] <freakyy> its more recent than the celtic one and look very smilar
[09:29] <freakyy> i mvery happy with gnome now ;D
[09:30] <freakyy> now id only need the very latest gnome but yea ...
[09:30] <freakyy> in 5 months there will be a new lts version anyway so
[09:30] <freakyy> i think im gonna wait for that
[09:30] <darkxst_> you can get 3.18 from gnome3-staging ppa
[09:32] <darkxst_> that is pretty stable now
[09:32] <freakyy> darkxst_: do u work on gnome-3 staging?
[09:33] <darkxst_> freakyy, its maintained by the ubuntu GNOME team, so yea
[09:33] <freakyy> my problem is, i have ppa-purge installed but ... when i upgrade im scared ill forget purging the ppas
[09:33] <freakyy> and even if i dont forget i need to collect th einformation how to remove the ppas
[09:34] <freakyy> ok ill add gnome staging repos now
[09:34] <freakyy> i also ahve to add gnome3 other repos aswell right?
[09:34] <freakyy> lemme do it now
[09:34] <darkxst_> thats probably less of a problem these days since we just backprort most packages after release
[09:36] <darkxst_> during development though its a minefield
[09:36] <darkxst_> that will start soon for xenial/staging
[09:40] <freakyy> lk i added both repos and created an unisntall-upgrade.txt file where i collect the repos i need to purge
[09:40] <freakyy> btw, if i press alt-tab and have 2 terminals open, how do i switch between the two terminals, pressing alt tab just continues to the next program open
[09:41] <darkxst_> alt-~
[09:41] <freakyy> i have a german keyboard
[09:41] <darkxst_> freakyy, the key left of 1
[09:41] <freakyy> thanks :D
[09:42] <freakyy> ok now the apt-get update
[09:42] <darkxst_> that will switch between the instances of current focused app
[09:43] <freakyy> ok so let's see if this works with my laptop ;D
[09:43] * darkxst_ goes, night
[09:43] <freakyy> good night darkxst_ and thank you fro your help :)
[09:54] <freakyy> my windows 10 when i upgraded to win10 ... trashed my sound driver everything cam eout scratched etc. like if the sound was too loud now in ubuntu everything works fine ;D
[17:25] <freakyy> darkxst: r u there? i have a problem. http://postimg.org/image/o2ojj7fl5/ <-- as u can see, in ubuntu software center the entries are white on white :(
[17:25] <freakyy> im using a theme
[17:25] <freakyy> do i have to report that to the theme author?
[17:46] <freakyy> i posted a bug report at their github
[18:26] <freakyy> hm i cant find a good cursor theme ill stick to the default
[21:30] <freakyy> ah it installed itself again
[21:31] <freakyy> i hope i have everything recent installed now ;D
[21:31] <freakyy> ok guys, im gonna take a shower now
[21:31] <freakyy> l8r all
[21:48] <freakyy> darkxst: ive installed the latest gnome from the ppas but still i cant set dim screen on battery mode?
[21:57] <darkxst> freakyy, brightness?
[21:59] <freakyy> darkxst: yea
[21:59] <freakyy> in settings --> Battery
[21:59] <freakyy> or Power
[21:59] <freakyy> wait
[22:00] <freakyy> in Power
[22:00] <freakyy> gnome .18 has a new feature to automatically reduce the brightness when u are on battery
[22:01] <freakyy> but i dont have that listed?
[22:01] <darkxst> i don't know about that either, file a bug
[22:04] <freakyy> or wait maybe i need to restart
[22:04] <freakyy> ?
[22:05] <freakyy> ill do that ina minute
[22:05] <freakyy> first ill isntall qweechat
[22:50] <darkxst> freakyy, does you laptop have a light sensor?
[22:52] <freakyy> darkxst: no
[22:52] <freakyy> but its said to dim the light when on battery mode
[22:52] <darkxst> then you won't see that new option
[22:52] <freakyy> oh ok
[22:52] <freakyy> ;D
[22:52] <freakyy> sorry
[22:52] <freakyy> i have spaghetties ;D
[22:52] <freakyy> with sauce
[22:52] <freakyy> :) *eats*
[22:53] <freakyy> i love my new desktop
[22:53] <freakyy> i only have to boot into windows if i wanna play guildwars 2
[22:54] <darkxst> I don't even have a windows partition here ;)
[22:57] <freakyy> darkxst: yes u probably dont play games. even with fglrx driver the game runs slow as it can only be run in wine
[22:59] <freakyy> i use weechat on server and go to irc ssh --> screen --> weechat
[22:59] <freakyy> i think its the best way so i never have to set up irc anywhere
[23:09] <freakyy> now im connected to my weechat using glowing-bear ... but its no standalone client sadly
[23:09] <freakyy> ok maybe the wrong channel to talk about that
[23:09] <freakyy> sorry
[23:11] <freakyy> darkxst: what langauge do u code in for gnome?
[23:11] <freakyy> c++?
[23:41] <darkxst> freakyy, mostly its C, but some apps use vala and gnome-shell uses javascript for the UI
[23:41] <freakyy> hm ok ;)
[23:41] <freakyy> i know a bit java
[23:41] <freakyy> but i dont know what i could code
[23:42] <darkxst> no I don't really play games
[23:42] <freakyy> darkxst: ;)
[23:42] <freakyy> i only play gw2
[23:42] <freakyy> but i own a minecraft server - but i only administrate it
[23:43] <darkxst> best place to start is too find and fix bugs ;)
[23:55] <freakyy> test
[23:55] <freakyy> wrong channel
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-server
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[06:49] <Sprocks> does anyone know how i would go about connecting my Ubuntu server to a PPTP server?
[09:27] <Sprocks> does anyone know how i would go about connecting my Ubuntu server to a PPTP server?
[10:55] <eahmedshendy> Hi I have this in my auth.log (Ubuntu 14.04): http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556599/
[10:55] <eahmedshendy> Is that something to be afraid of ?
[10:55] <eahmedshendy> Or what does is mean, I am new in Linux administration, and I just search for something weired
[12:40] <Seveas> eahmedshendy: the POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT is just a ridiculous message you can ignore
[12:41] <eahmedshendy> Seveas: OK :)
[12:41] <Seveas> th rest of the message means that your ISP (assuming it's your ip address in that message) has misconfigured their DNS.
[12:42] <Seveas> openssh likes to whine about that while in reality many ISPs make mistakes there.
[17:08] <profall> Hello
[17:09] <profall> I get a new server and open up /etc/network/interfaces to add my new static IPs just like I have done a thousand times before and.....
[17:09] <profall> the primary network interface goes like...
[17:09] <profall> auto p1p2
[17:09] <profall> iface p1p2 inet static
[17:10] <profall> That is the main IP already configured, and I tried auto eth0 down below with a new IP and all of that and it did not work. How do I add new static IPs
[17:23] <profall> http://pastebin.com/71n0Rhfh
[17:46] <profall> Nevermind, fixed.
[19:22] <lordievader> profall: You are running 15.10?
[19:59] <Ricky_Rat5005> I have googled the 'snot' out this. I am trying to install tftp server on Ubuntu 14. I am following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/201505/how-do-i-install-and-run-a-tftp-server but when I do an apt-get install xinetd tftpd tftp it gets to setting up xinetd and just hangs.
[20:05] <X-Rob> Ricky_Rat5005: setting up xinetd hanging is usually a DNS issue
[20:05] <X-Rob> make sure you can 'ping google.com'
[20:05] <X-Rob> you may need to wait, too
[20:06] <X-Rob> so try 'apt-get install xinetd' and wait for a while
[20:07] <Ricky_Rat5005> ping google.com works fine.
[20:08] <X-Rob> Odd. I'm 100% sure that it works-for-me. Which isn't much of an answer, I know.
[20:08] <Ricky_Rat5005> Should I ctrl-c and try the apt-get install xinetd then? It's been over 15 minutes installing so far with no change
[20:08] <X-Rob> Yes, just xinetd
[20:08] <X-Rob> you should also try rebooting first
[20:08] <X-Rob> something may be half started and be blocking
[20:08] <Ricky_Rat5005> X-Rob rebooting now.
[20:08] <X-Rob> I realise that's not a unix-y thing to do, but you're obviously still in setup 8)
[20:09] <Ricky_Rat5005> X-Rob LOL... whatever works!
[20:11] <Ricky_Rat5005> says dpkg interrupted, run dpkg --configure -a (which I am doing now)
[20:12] <Ricky_Rat5005> now it's setting up xnetd.... I'll wait... how long is 'normal'? (I know varies with server speed, but just a ballpark)
[20:12] <drmessano> There was probably something hung before you started these installs
[20:13] <drmessano> Which wouldn't clear until dpkg --configure a
[20:13] <drmessano> So anything after that would install, but hang
[20:13] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, I'll let it run. About how long would you say (generally)
[20:14] <drmessano> Are you seeing any output on the console?
[20:14] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano nope
[20:16] <X-Rob> Ricky_Rat5005: On my ubuntu 14 machine, a small package like xinetd shouldn't take more than 30 secs or so to install
[20:16] <X-Rob> however, drmessano there is more knowledgeable about this stuff than I am.
[20:16] <Ricky_Rat5005> X-Rob yeah, with most things it's pretty instant, but for some reason it doesn't like this.
[20:17] <X-Rob> drmessano: is there a debug on dpkg so you can see what it's hanging on? I'm guessing there's something in the install script that is doing something unexpected
[20:18] <drmessano> Which package did you last install? Which Ubuntu release is this?
[20:19] <drmessano> X-Rob: there is a dpkg log.
[20:20] <drmessano> Really need to debug the process that's hanging.. Standard log files would apply
[20:21] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano not sure which was b4 this one / 14.04
[20:22] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano what do I need to pastebin to help?
[20:23] <drmessano> Try a Ctrl-C
[20:23] <drmessano> Just curious if the script is just hung
[20:23] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, I am back at cli
[20:24] <drmessano> so run that dpkg command again
[20:27] <Ricky_Rat5005> going back to setting up xinetd
[20:33] <Ricky_Rat5005> still stuck
[20:33] <drmessano> Did you run that command again?
[20:33] <drmessano> Before
[20:33] <Ricky_Rat5005> yes
[20:33] <drmessano> and it ran fine?
[20:34] <Ricky_Rat5005> yes...
[20:34] <Ricky_Rat5005> just ran again and I think it worked this time.
[20:34] <Ricky_Rat5005> stby
[20:35] <drmessano> Ok.. so that tells me your system state is fine.. Something with this install
[20:35] <Ricky_Rat5005> xinetd start/running, process 3441
[20:36] <drmessano> Thats promising
[20:37] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano yes. now to test tftp...
[20:44] <Ricky_Rat5005> something still isn't right. /etc/init.d/xinetd staus returns * is not running
[20:45] <Ricky_Rat5005> one sec...
[20:45] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: Try starting it manually, in a terminal.
[20:45] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: Without using /etc/init.d/xinetd
[20:49] <Ricky_Rat5005> service xinetd start says start/running process xxxxx so looks like that part is working, however when i try tftp 10.0.0.20 and then get test (a file I placed in /tftpboot) it times out.
[20:50] <bekks> Use the xinetd binary, not the service facility.
[20:51] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks not sure what you mean by that.
[20:51] <bekks> Do not use /etc/init.d/xinetd or service xinetd, but use the xinetd binary itself for starting/stopping.
[20:51] <bekks> So you can check wether you have syntax errors in your config files, etc.
[20:52] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks what is the command for that please?
[20:52] <bekks> xinetd
[20:52] <Ricky_Rat5005> xinetd returns nothing
[20:53] <bekks> Then look at the startup script in /etc/init.d/xinetd to see which parameters are needed.
[20:55] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks not sure what I am looking for in that file.
[20:55] <bekks> The parameters passed to the xinetd binary.
[20:56] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks I am a linux newbie... Still not following. I need the 'for dummies' version of that please.
[20:57] <bekks> That was the "for dummies" version...
[20:57] <bekks> In the /etc/init.d/xinetd file, the xinetd binary is called with some parameters.
[20:58] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks well that's an ego boost... Is this what you are asking: "Usage: /etc/init.d/xinetd {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart|status}"
[20:58] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: No.
[20:59] <Ricky_Rat5005> would a pastebin of the file help?
[20:59] <bekks> No. It is your job to find the parameters passed to the xinetd binary.
[21:01] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks ok, I am trying to provide the correct info...
[21:02] <RoyK> Ricky_Rat5005: http://bfy.tw/31xv
[21:03] <Ricky_Rat5005> RoyK Not helpful sir. I am trying. I have googled this.
[21:03] <Ricky_Rat5005> I am not lazy, just new
[21:04] <RoyK> Ricky_Rat5005: atftpd is far better than the old one, and runs as a daemon
[21:05] <RoyK> (x)inetd is decades old - better use something better
[21:06] <X-Rob> Ricky_Rat5005: 'ps auxw | grep inetd'
[21:06] <X-Rob> is there an xinetd running?
[21:07] <X-Rob> if not, ps auxw | grep xxxxx , but replace xxxx with whatever process number you had earlier
[21:07] <RoyK> X-Rob: pidof inetd, perhaps
[21:07] <RoyK> still, I'd recommend using atftpd
[21:08] <X-Rob> Probably, if that's available on 14.04?
[21:08] <RoyK> it is
[21:09] <RoyK> it's old, but still far more updated than the old inetd-based inetd
[21:10] * RoyK only uses (x)inetd at gunpoint
[21:10] <X-Rob> RoyK: the background you don't know is that this is a PBX In A Flash install. This is a pile of shellscripts that installs huge amounts of crap for no real reason (eg: iscsi terminator. On a PBX. WTF). It's quite possible that something NEEDS xinetd and has broken it as part of the install.
[21:11] <RoyK> X-Rob: termiantor? or was that target? or initiator?
[21:12] <X-Rob> The guy who writes it doesn't accept bug reports, and bans you if you try to submit them. I'm not joking.
[21:12] * RoyK has never heard of an iscsi terminaltor and wonders if it's made of liquid metal or not
[21:12] <bekks> X-Rob: So is that stuff running on some Ubuntu?
[21:14] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, atftpd installed now. X-Rob will it work with freepbx?
[21:14] <drmessano> bekks: unfortunately
[21:15] <drmessano> bekks: we've repeatedly sent him nasty tweets asking him to not allow his crap code to install on Ubuntu or even Debian, and he refuses
[21:15] <drmessano> I told him "Slackware works for everyone"
[21:15] <drmessano> But nooooo
[21:16] <drmessano> Ricky_Rat5005: FreePBX doesn't care what tftd is running.. Nor does anything else
[21:16] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano ok.
[21:17] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano is configure same?
[21:18] <drmessano> Ricky_Rat5005: it's tftpd. You install, put files there, it serves them
[21:19] <drmessano> What is there really to configure?
[21:19] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano in OSS Endpoint I now get "local tftp server is not correctly configured"
[21:19] <drmessano> Do you have the permissions correct?
[21:20] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano probably not!
[21:20] <drmessano> So go look
[21:22] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano A little help on that step please (or a lot of help)
[21:29] <Ricky_Rat5005> I have apt-get install atftpd but there isn't much I can find to go to the next step...permissons, config, test... doesn't seem like it's the same as tftpd.
[21:30] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: its totally the same - do you know what TFTP is used for?
[21:30] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks yes
[21:30] <drmessano> a TFTPd is a TFTPd
[21:30] <drmessano> They all do the same thing
[21:31] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: So you know that aftftpd does the same thing as tftpd.
[21:31] <drmessano> Check the permissions on the folder
[21:31] <Ricky_Rat5005> the tftpboot folder?
[21:31] * drmessano hates windows terms
[21:31] <drmessano> Yes
[21:32] <drmessano> Check the config in EPM.. make sure it's looking for the same location
[21:32] <drmessano> ./tftpboot != /var/lib/tftpboot
[21:33] <drmessano> So make sure that's not your issue
[21:33] <Ricky_Rat5005> Yes it's looking for /tftpboot/ in EPM
[21:33] <X-Rob> Ricky_Rat5005: there's a command line tftp client. You want to test with that first. Make sur eyou get a file not found error
[21:34] <drmessano> You need to fix that.. that's some Wart crap
[21:34] <drmessano> Point EPM to /var/lib/tftpboot
[21:34] <RoyK> Ricky_Rat5005: the tftp dir is configurable
[21:34] <RoyK> Ricky_Rat5005: don't use something on the root
[21:35] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, /var/lib/tftpboot doesn't even exist, creating it now
[21:40] <Ricky_Rat5005> I did chmod -R 777 /var/lib/tftpboot/ and chown -R nobody /var/lib/tftpboot/ OSS still says local tftp server not configured correctly
[21:40] <Ricky_Rat5005> and it is set to that dir in EPM
[21:42] <Ricky_Rat5005> tftp 10.0.0.20 though says /usr/bin/tftp No such file or dir.
[21:43] <bekks> So is there a binary named like that?
[21:43] <drmessano> tftpd is not ftp
[21:43] <drmessano> Try to grab a file
[21:44] <X-Rob> Ricky_Rat5005: apt-get install tftp
[21:44] <X-Rob> or tftp-client or whatever it's called
[21:45] <X-Rob> you can use apt-cache search tftp
[21:45] <Ricky_Rat5005> So I need that in additon to atftpd or instead of?
[21:46] <drmessano> You need a CLIENT to test
[21:46] <drmessano> You dont have a CLIENT
[21:46] <drmessano> You have a SERVER
[21:48] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, so I have tftp installed now. I tftp 10.0.0.20 (my server ip). I have a file called test in the /var/lib/tftp boot dir, but when I get test it says file not found
[21:49] <Ricky_Rat5005> correction /var/lib/tftpboot dir
[21:51] <drmessano> Verify atftpd is looking there
[21:51] <drmessano> Check the config
[21:51] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, where does atftpd config file live?
[21:52] <drmessano> Where would you think it resided?
[21:52] <drmessano> Try /etc.. Look for it
[21:53] <Ricky_Rat5005> I am asking as I did look there.
[21:55] <drmessano> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-advanced-tftp-server-in-ubuntu.html
[21:58] <Ricky_Rat5005> looks like it want's to use /tftpboot, but I am being told here to use /var/lib/tftpboot
[21:58] <drmessano> What does? the config?
[21:59] <drmessano> the config file on your system?
[21:59] <drmessano> Be specific.. "it" doesn't tell me anything
[22:00] <Ricky_Rat5005> sorry the link you sent says to create /tftpboot (from root) so I am assuming that is the default. The link says nothing (that I can see) about changing that.
[22:00] <drmessano> Ricky_Rat5005: ???
[22:01] <drmessano> NO
[22:01] <drmessano> NO
[22:01] <drmessano> NO
[22:01] <drmessano> I didnt send you the guide so you can change everything around
[22:01] <drmessano> It shows you the key locations and permissions
[22:02] <drmessano> Go check YOUR Config file
[22:02] <Ricky_Rat5005> previously in this chat I was told not to use /tftpboot
[22:02] <drmessano> YOU WERE
[22:02] <drmessano> Go check YOUR Config file
[22:03] <Ricky_Rat5005> is that /etc/default/atftpd ?
[22:04] <drmessano> Right there in the guide
[22:04] <drmessano> 10 mins to check your config for a path.. come on
[22:08] <Ricky_Rat5005> this is the config file. I assume I need to change /srv/tftp to /var/lib/tftpboot is that right? http://pastebin.com/ZVTnLAru
[22:09] <bekks> Or you keep using /srv/tftp and configure the content in ther.
[22:09] <bekks> *there
[22:10] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok
[22:18] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, for simplicity I set it up exactly as the link suggests. /tftpboot I have the test file in /tftpboot Here is the config file http://pastebin.com/1eYbAzSP I am doing tftp 10.0.0.20 and then get test I still get file not found.
[22:20] <bekks> And you are sure you started atftpd?
[22:20] <bekks> ps -ef | grep atftpd
[22:21] <Ricky_Rat5005> root 9130 2226 0 15:21 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto atftpd
[22:22] <bekks> Its not running...
[22:29] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks hmm, well that sucks... I have tried the start commands in the link.
[22:29] <bekks> In which link?
[22:29] <bekks> How about just starting ther service?
[22:31] <Ricky_Rat5005> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-advanced-tftp-server-in-ubuntu.html
[22:32] <Ricky_Rat5005> root@pbx:/etc/default# service atftpd start
[22:32] <Ricky_Rat5005> Starting Advanced TFTP server: atftpd.
[22:33] <bekks> So check wether it is started.
[22:34] <Ricky_Rat5005> same thing:
[22:34] <Ricky_Rat5005> root@pbx:/etc/default# ps -ef | grep atftpd
[22:34] <Ricky_Rat5005> root 9455 2226 0 15:33 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto atftpd
[22:35] <bekks> So look at the init script and see how atftpd is started, then start it manually.
[22:35] <bekks> Again, you need to get the parameters from the init script.
[22:36] <drmessano> ps -ef | grep tftp
[22:37] <drmessano> Probably has 3 or 4 tftpds running now lol
[22:37] <drmessano> Well not running, installed
[22:37] <Ricky_Rat5005> ps -ef | grep tftp
[22:37] <Ricky_Rat5005> root 9504 2226 0 15:37 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto tftp
[22:38] <bekks> I'm wondering about what the big picture is - a PBX with tftp?
[22:38] <drmessano> Yes
[22:38] <bekks> What for? :)
[22:38] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks yes, exactly
[22:38] <Ricky_Rat5005> phone provisionoing
[22:39] <Ricky_Rat5005> *provisioning*
[22:39] <bekks> ah, I see.
[22:39] <drmessano> Need it to configure the phones
[22:39] <drmessano> Is the path correct?
[22:41] <Ricky_Rat5005> this is the path http://pastebin.com/1eYbAzSP
[22:42] <bekks> Thats a config file, not a path.
[22:42] <drmessano> Thats not /var/lib/tftpboot in the config
[22:43] <drmessano> Not sure if you noticed
[22:43] <drmessano> But /tftpboot != /var/lib/tftpboot
[22:43] <bekks> drmessano: Well, basically he can use /tftpboot as well, but he has to use a consistent configuration :)
[22:44] <drmessano> I get that
[22:44] <drmessano> Trying to set this up once, and in a way that can be easily supported
[22:44] <drmessano> Because who knows what else is hosed on this box already
[22:44] <Ricky_Rat5005> dr nothing, fresh install
[22:44] <Ricky_Rat5005> I am just following this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-advanced-tftp-server-in-ubuntu.html
[22:45] <drmessano> ok
[22:45] <Ricky_Rat5005> so I'm just trying to use the /tftpboot path
[22:45] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: So did you start atfftpd manually, as I told you?
[22:45] <drmessano> Well sounds like you go it handled
[22:45] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano is that sarcastic? I'm trying.
[22:47] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks how do I find the parameters from the init script so i can be sure?
[22:47] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: I told you multiple times.
[22:48] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: you need to read and understand the start script, and you need to look at the config file.
[22:48] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks I posted the config file... I don't see what I am missing in there.
[22:48] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: No one said you are missing things in there.
[22:49] <Ricky_Rat5005> missing seeing
[22:49] <drmessano> Unless you buy a phone that pulls config from Pastebin.com, you need to start doing what you're being asked
[22:49] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: but in the config file, there are a few parameters already. now look at the start script, get all additional parameters if there are any, and start the service manually.
[22:50] <Ricky_Rat5005> drmessano dude, I am trying
[22:50] <bekks> drmessano: Or hire someone who does.
[22:50] <drmessano> That too
[22:52] <drmessano> bekks: there is nothing he needs here more than a simple working tftpd install. When tftpd is working, if ever, there's a web based manager that generates the config files for the phones. It simply needs to point to the valid tftpd directory and it spits the files there
[22:52] <drmessano> if you want the "Whole picture"
[22:52] <drmessano> So nothing fancy or custom or anything other than a 2 minute tftpd install
[22:52] <bekks> ah ok.
[22:53] <drmessano> Which I guess is more like 2 hours now
[22:54] <drmessano> I've never had actual problems doing this on Ubuntu. It's documented ad nauseum and generally just works out of the box
[22:54] <bekks> Indeed.
[22:55] <Ricky_Rat5005> Look guys, i appreciate your help, I am trying, and I am trying to follow what you are saying.
[22:55] <drmessano> tftpd is every other file transfer protocols little broken that was dropped on its head when it was a baby and just sits around all day eating apples. There's really nothing to it
[22:55] <drmessano> little brother*
[22:55] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, so how come it's not working?
[22:56] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: Did you do what I told you to do?
[22:56] <bekks> If no, do it.
[22:56] <bekks> If yes, whats the outcome?
[22:57] <quantic> wtf, we're still fighting with a tftp server?
[22:57] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks I don't know what the parameters are. I have looked at the config file. I am not understanding what you are telling me to do.
[22:57] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: So what do you think "OPTIONS" are from line 3: http://pastebin.com/1eYbAzSP ?
[22:57] <bekks> quantic: yes.
[23:00] <Ricky_Rat5005> I see those, but not sure how to apply them into a cli to get it to start like you are asking. I have tried service atftpd (inserted those options) start
[23:01] <bekks> service atftpd is what I told you to NOT use.
[23:01] <bekks> look at the init script on how atftpd is actually started.
[23:02] <bekks> Then, insert all options, and start it, using the full path to the atftpd binary. NOT using servic whatever.
[23:04] <Ricky_Rat5005> ok, like this then? /etc/init.d/atftpd start --tftpd-timeout 300 --retry-timeout 5 --mcast-port 1758 --mcast-addr 239.239.239.0-255 --mcast-ttl 1 --maxthread 100 --verbose=5 /tftpboot
[23:05] <bekks> No.
[23:05] <bekks> /etc/init.d/atftpd is the INITSCRIPT. It is NOT the BINARY.
[23:05] * quantic facepalm.
[23:09] <Ricky_Rat5005> I guess I don't understand why there are help channels if people are upset when others ask for help.
[23:09] <bekks> Well, we are telling you the same things for hourse now - and you arent even doing what you are told to do.
[23:09] <bekks> Wouldnt you get upset when that happens to you?
[23:09] <Ricky_Rat5005> show me where you told me how to run the binary...and I will do it.
[23:10] <quantic> Ricky_Rat5005: for one, we absolutely HATE writing walkthroughs. there are tons online already, and configuring a tftp server is seriously basic.
[23:10] <bekks> I told you a gazillion of times.
[23:10] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: that proves that you dont even try to understand what people tell you.
[23:10] <bekks> I am out of that issue now. Good luck.
[23:11] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks no sir I am trying, but if you don't want to help, I appreicate your time in trying.
[23:11] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: I dont want to repeat myself a million times.
[23:11] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: I told you everything you need to know on how to start that thing manually.
[23:11] <bekks> For two different tftpd servers, already.
[23:12] <bekks> Dont blame me for your laziness of doing what you are told to.
[23:12] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks Name calling isn't helpful. I am not lazy. I am trying.
[23:12] <bekks> Then why didnt you try tp look at the init script, as I told you often enough?
[23:13] <quantic> Ricky_Rat5005: I think the frustration comes in that you're trying to have people help you set something up when you're not even competent with the OS on an administrative level.
[23:13] <bekks> Instead you are trying to discuss why people dont spoonfeed you.
[23:13] <Ricky_Rat5005> quantic I am learning.
[23:14] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks I am trying dude. Sorry you are feeling frustrated.
[23:14] <quantic> Ricky_Rat5005: Never said you weren't, but you need to learn the platform before trying to deploy something on it.
[23:15] <Ricky_Rat5005> Lookup the init script means nothing to me w/o knowing how to look up the script.
[23:15] <drmessano> I'm a jerk about insisting on core OS competency when I help someone. I make no apologies for it. If you can't find and grep and cat and some of the other basics, there's no hope. Also, being able to take a suggestion and run with it shows troubleshooting competency. Asking over and over "how do I do that?" always means "paste what I need to type".
[23:15] <drmessano> Nobody has time to do something FOR someone else. That's not helping.
[23:16] <bekks> Ricky_Rat5005: Then why on earth dont you just ASK whats the initscript?
[23:16] <drmessano> Ricky_Rat5005: "find" "locate"
[23:16] <drmessano> Google
[23:16] <bekks> Hours ago I told you to look at the initscript - and NOW you come up with "I dont know what that is"?
[23:16] <Ricky_Rat5005> bekks what is the initscript please?
[23:16] <bekks> I told you.
[23:16] <bekks> /etc/init.d/atftpd
[23:18] <quantic> Ricky_Rat5005: Honestly, I think you've hit the limit of what you're going to get here. You need to become competent with Linux basics and Ubuntu server admin before you go further.
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[00:09] <robru> Man, lots of problems with the statuses today
[09:00] <zsombi> @cihelp gentlemen, we have a problem in CI? See the following log: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-sdk-team-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-staging-vivid-i386-ci/1266/console
[09:01] <zsombi> /tmp/buildd/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-1.3.1688+15.10.20151018.1bzr1781pkg0vivid1266/tests/checkresults.sh: line 53: bc: command not found
[09:01] <zsombi> then Tail of xvfb-run output:
[09:01] <zsombi> (EE)
[09:01] <zsombi> Fatal server error:
[09:01] <zsombi> (EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running(EE)
[09:01] <zsombi> _XSERVTransSocketUNIXCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
[09:01] <zsombi> _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
[09:01] <zsombi> (EE)
[09:01] <zsombi> Fatal server error:
[09:01] <zsombi> (EE) Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running(EE)
[09:01] <zsombi> /usr/bin/xvfb-run: 92: kill: No such process
[12:04] <Mirv> dobey: you need to ping cihelp for autopkgtest issues. if it has never worked, it'd be shown as "Always failed" and ignored.
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-si
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[10:01] <CrazyLemon> .vreme koper
[10:01] <jabuk> ARSO: Koper Kapitanija (4m): 8.4°C @29.11.2015 9:30 UTC.
[10:01] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 65% severovzhodnik 0.5 m/s (1.8 km/h)
[10:01] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:23:27, Kulminacija: 10:54:44, Sončni zahod: 15:26:01
[10:01] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 02min 34s, Luna je v ščipu
[10:39] <zdobbie> http://i.imgur.com/bUi9bkL.jpg
[11:04] <jabuk> M 1.4 > 11.km J od BREŽIC @29/11/2015 11:52:52 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.81+N,+15.56+E
[11:15] <jabuk> M 1.2 > 10.km V od ŠENTJERNEJA @29/11/2015 11:52:53 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.81+N,+15.46+E
[13:51] <CrazyLemon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17510489/IMG_20151129_124109.jpg todays ride
[13:52] <CrazyLemon> v portorožu je bilo sicer lepše..but this will do!
[13:55] <zdobbie> slam that stem
[13:56] <CrazyLemon> naah
[13:57] <CrazyLemon> my back likes it the way it is
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> kr veliko kolesarjev je bilo na cesti
[13:58] <CrazyLemon> presenetljivo veliko.. očitno vsi iz lj prišli na obalo
[14:05] <zdobbie> jah
[14:05] <zdobbie> mevze
[14:27] <zdobbie> !t en sl pledge
[14:27] <Pepelka> zastava
[14:27] <zdobbie> 'the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the US'
[14:28] <zdobbie> translate me this
[14:56] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie prisegam zvestobo zastavi US of A?
[14:57] <CrazyLemon> the pledge torej ni prisegam ampak prisega
[14:57] <CrazyLemon> pa zvestobi ni ravno najboljša izbira za allegiance
[15:07] <zdobbie> born to be a translator
[15:08] <CrazyLemon> yw
[15:35] <zdobbie> mike what r u doin http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/29/politics/mike-huckabee-planned-parenthood-domestic-terrorism/index.html
[15:35] <Pepelka> Huckabee: Planned Parenthood shooting is 'domestic terrorism' - CNNPolitics.com
[17:06] <zdobbie> http://idlewords.com/talks/what_happens_next_will_amaze_you.htm
[17:06] <Pepelka> What Happens Next Will Amaze You
[17:13] <idioterna> zdobbie CrazyLemon
[17:13] <idioterna> you're needed
[17:13] <zdobbie> oh man
[18:13] <CrazyLemon> idioterna am i still needed?
[22:20] <Krt57> čer
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[05:59] <EtroS> Hey everyone, just thought I'll drop by and say Thanks for the awesome system
[06:58] <NoklaM> Just joined the testing team, although not sure where to go from here
[08:47] <zequence> NoklaM: You want to help with testing?
[08:48] <zequence> Make sure to subscribe to our -devel mail list, and keep up with what is going on, and just jump in when there's something that you can help with.
[08:50] <zequence> Our testing lead is Ross Gammon. He's preparing testing for this development release.
[08:52] <zequence> You can read a bit more about that here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2015-November/007124.html
[08:53] <NoklaM> Yup, defo gonna help with testing, I think I subbed to the devel list, I've also installed the 16.03 version :)
[08:56] <NoklaM> s/.03/.04
[09:06] <NoklaM> + the .iso from the topic worked only with UEFI mode on mobo, refused to boot in legacy mode, just mentioning, dunno where to put this
[09:13] <zequence> NoklaM: Most probably the boot problems are the same on all flavors, so double check with vanilla Ubuntu, and if you have the same problem, report a bug.
[09:14] <zequence> And, this is how you report the bug:
[09:14] <zequence> Legacy mode did not work, so you boot into UEFI mode. Open a terminal. type: ubuntu-bug grub
[09:14] <zequence> Sorry
[09:14] <zequence> ubuntu-bug grub2
[09:15] <zequence> Here's something about testing ISOs, specifically about the bug part https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Testing/ISOTesting#If_you_find_bugs
[09:16] <zequence> NoklaM: Welcome to the team, btw! If you like, present yourself on our -devel mail list, and let others know you exist and want to help
[09:16] <NoklaM> Thanks :), will do as soon as i figure out how to post to it :)
[09:17] <NoklaM> might sound lame but in my 20 years on pc never used a mailing list
[09:17] <zequence> NoklaM: Just write an email to the email address [email protected]
[09:17] <NoklaM> ah wicked, so simple
[09:17] <zequence> It will only go through if the sender is subscribed
[09:19] <zequence> Currently we are doing some changes to the desktop, so if you find any problems with it, let us know. Here, or on the mail list. Both work.
[09:19] <NoklaM> I noticed that during the installation, the desktop on live showed the XFCE manu
[09:20] <NoklaM> i was scared it's gonna persist trough the install to the final stage
[09:20] <zequence> Yeah, that one needs to be fixed
[09:20] <zequence> I just made the changes yesterday, so I missed something. Will try to fix that tomorrow.
[09:21] <NoklaM> I've just read on the mailing list that there is some mention of a in house desktop menu or environment, I did some UX while back
[09:22] <zequence> UX?
[09:22] <NoklaM> user Experience design
[09:33] <NoklaM> Sorry, my father decided it's perfect time to reset the router without informing me
[09:33] <NoklaM> Where did it cut-off zequence ?
[10:15] <zequence> NoklaM: Ah, I was away for a while.
[10:15] <zequence> You said "user Experience design"
[10:16] <NoklaM> Ah, basicly making the menus and interface as painless as possible for the end user, that's UX in short
[10:19] <zequence> Ok. Well, we're actually trying to get away from most of the DE stuff, since there are too few people interesting on working on that.
[10:19] <zequence> Our custom menu looked better in the old menu (we started using the new one, "whiskers" yesterday)
[10:20] <zequence> Also, the menu should work with any freedesktop compatible menu, like the KDE menu
[10:20] <zequence> What happens is a few new submenus are added
[10:21] <zequence> The logic behind the submenus comes from freedesktop categorization
[10:21] <zequence> http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html
[10:21] <zequence> Though, we aren't following it yet, perfectly
[10:22] <NoklaM> As far as I understand most DE's are themable right?
[10:22] <zequence> Sure
[10:23] <NoklaM> Once one is set in stone I might look in to it and make it look less stock like :P
[10:23] <zequence> We don't really have our own theme currently
[10:23] <NoklaM> Although there is nothing wrong with stock
[10:23] <zequence> We only have a few custom icons
[10:23] <zequence> We had a custom theme back when we were still using gnome2
[10:24] <NoklaM> I seen there is colour picked for the icon as a standard one, could work around that
[10:25] <zequence> I had the idea to have specific colors for the different workflows, and worked together with our art lead, Zak, and some other folks a couple of years ago to sum those up
[10:25] <zequence> Been a while, so I would need to look through that again to see what it was we were doing
[10:26] <zequence> Zak is not around much, but he will be art lead this cycle. He's the guy who made the wallpaper and our social channel artwork
[10:26] <zequence> The blue is a classic Ubuntu Studio theme color
[10:27] <zequence> If you want to check out some of the artwork, you can get it from our bazaar branch
[10:27] <zequence> First, install bazaar: sudo apt-get install bzr
[10:27] <NoklaM> :)
[10:28] <zequence> Then, also in the terminal, do: bzr branch lp:ubuntustudio-artwork
[10:28] <zequence> It's not complete, and in total disorder
[10:29] <NoklaM> just checking now
[10:31] <NoklaM> that's some nice assets there
[10:32] <zequence> If you google "Ubuntu Studio desktop theme" you should find some pics of the old gtk2 theme
[10:33] <zequence> black, dark grey, white and blue
[10:33] <NoklaM> Purely theoreticly, HTML5 as layer on top of the DE, would that work?
[10:34] <zequence> Gnome3 uses css
[10:34] <zequence> NOt sure about gtk3, which is everything within the window borders. XFCE uses it also, but lot of things there I'm not sure of
[10:35] <zequence> A guy called cfhowlett has been working on porting the old gtk2 theme to gtk3. I've been planning on including it as an alternative, but that's about as much work we've done on desktop theming for the past few years.
[10:36] <zequence> Anyway, got to go. I'll check in later, so if you think of anything just write here or on the mail list.
[10:36] <NoklaM> Sure thing, have a good one
[12:04] <flocculant> hi Rosco2 :)
[12:04] <Rosco2> hi
[12:05] <flocculant> wish you all the luck in the world getting testcases done :)
[12:05] <Rosco2> It is a hard sell :-)
[12:05] <Rosco2> I am sure I will have to do a lot myself
[12:06] <flocculant> really? never noticed ha ha
[12:06] <flocculant> I'd have likely been more available last cycle to help out - but got my own lts to worry about
[12:07] <flocculant> I will though do what I can to help get things on the tracker and available for you
[12:07] <Rosco2> Yeah - thanks
[12:07] <Rosco2> It is good to have someone to help me through the learning curve
[12:08] <flocculant> what might be a useful thing to do is create a folder on the project for studio specific tests - keeps them in one place
[12:08] <flocculant> we do that for xubuntu - xfce stuff is seperate from things others might use like mousepad
[12:09] <flocculant> Rosco2: I'm only ever a ping or mail away, so whenever you have a question, and I'll hang about in this channel too
[12:10] <Rosco2> folder? do you have a link, or do you mean bzr branches on the us-testing team launchpad?
[12:10] <flocculant> if you want to do that with a folder ubuntu-manual-tests/testcases/packages/studio soon ish I'll merge it asap
[12:10] <flocculant> Rosco2: nope on the manual testcases
[12:11] <Rosco2> got it - thanks
[12:11] <flocculant> I did do Agave basic test a while back - so one's done :p
[12:13] <NoklaM> don't worry Rosco2 I'll help ya with those test cases :P
[12:14] <Rosco2> NoklaM: Excellent news
[12:15] <Rosco2> Let us know how you get on as you get started
[12:16] <NoklaM> I'm going over the list looking for programs I have a clue about. Do we do only basic test like the ones described or can we go in "deeper"
[12:19] <Rosco2> I would like to start with a small quick test for as many as possible
[12:19] <Rosco2> we can add more depth later
[12:20] <Rosco2> If the tests are too long some testers may give up
[12:20] <flocculant> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/packages/1662_Agave
[12:20] <Rosco2> Expert testers can always go deeper anyway and report bugs they find
[12:21] <Rosco2> flocculant: Was just looking at it
[12:21] <Rosco2> Good idea to have a folder like Xfce
[12:21] <flocculant> yea
[12:22] <flocculant> Rosco2: actually I'll just do that if you like now - just what to call it ? studio would be my fave :p
[12:28] <NoklaM> ok, kinda got lost after setting up my name in bzr
[12:30] <flocculant> NoklaM: how far did you get?
[12:30] <NoklaM> d'oh and Studio crashed when alt-tabing
[12:33] <flocculant> bzr whoami "NoklaM <noklam's e-mail> should do it - bzr whoami should return who it thinks you are, then bzr launchpad-login LPusername
[12:33] <flocculant> afaik
[12:34] <NoklaM> i think that worked
[12:35] <flocculant> :)
[12:36] <NoklaM> and which branch do I add or do I add any?
[12:37] <Rosco2> flocculant: studio would be fine
[12:37] <flocculant> NoklaM: hang on - let me set up this new home for studio
[12:37] <NoklaM> okie dokie
[12:39] <flocculant> Rosco2: ok - all done
[12:39] <flocculant> NoklaM: bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests
[12:39] <NoklaM> tyvm kind sir
[12:40] <flocculant> open that up once it's there - in testcases/packages you will see a studio folder - create your testcases in there :)
[12:40] <Rosco2> Yes - just name the new file after the app
[12:41] <flocculant> don't add a number though - that gets added elsewhere and by admins
[12:42] <Rosco2> You beat me. A sequential number gets added to the filename later in the process
[12:42] <Rosco2> I remember wondering about that last time
[12:42] <flocculant> Rosco2: :)
[12:42] <NoklaM> Got it
[12:47] <flocculant> NoklaM: also assign yourself to bug associated with the testcase your writing, link your code to it, then it all gets tied up properly down the road :)
[12:55] <NoklaM> D'oh run Jack AUDIO server with aeolus for testing, now not sure it should disable my normal headphones audio or is it a feature
[12:56] <NoklaM> I'll better stick to what I know
[13:04] <flocculant> sounds familiar - that'll be why I started looking and stopped :p
[13:06] <NoklaM> I'm doing krita, actually used to for 30 minutes before, just could somene guide me through hand on adding the file?
[13:14] <NoklaM> I mean when I do bzr add krita, it throws an error that the file doesn't exist
[13:15] <flocculant> NoklaM: bzr add
[13:15] <flocculant> bzr knows what it has - you just tell it to add and it does
[13:19] <flocculant> NoklaM: then you want to commit your changes bzr commit -m 'new testcase for foo' for example
[13:20] <NoklaM> ah I see, I didn't create the file in the first place manualy
[13:20] <flocculant> not sure what you mean
[13:21] <NoklaM> What I had to do was create a krita file in the Studio folder
[13:21] <NoklaM> then add it :P
[13:21] <flocculant> aah - yes :)
[13:22] <flocculant> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Manual/Writing and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentToolsUsage
[13:22] <flocculant> go through from grabbing the branch, doing your thing, pushing it
[13:23] <NoklaM> wicked, thanks :D
[13:23] <flocculant> welcome :)
[13:24] <flocculant> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/ManualStyleGuide/test_case_format_script makes sure that what you've written passes for syntax
[13:24] <flocculant> then you wait for a tame testcase admin to check it out :D
[13:56] <NoklaM> Can I show my file to someone before I push it?
[13:56] <NoklaM> Literally paranoid that I made 10x mistakes in 3 tests
[13:56] <NoklaM> in the file writing that is
[13:57] <flocculant> NoklaM: if you want pastebin it and I'll have a quick look
[13:59] <NoklaM> http://pastebin.com/KgJYRBsb <-- flocculant
[14:00] <flocculant> kind of :)
[14:00] <flocculant> 2 ticks
[14:00] <NoklaM> what did I mess up?
[14:03] <flocculant> http://pastebin.com/A4GUBDML
[14:04] <flocculant> not that you messed up
[14:04] <flocculant> basically
[14:04] <flocculant> this test tests foo
do this
this happens
[14:05] <flocculant> imagine someone who learnt english following it - make it as obvious as you can
[14:06] <flocculant> also - not that you did, never use UbuntuStudio or Xubuntu or Ubuntu - just use FAMILY in uppercase and then it works out which flavour you're testing :)
[14:06] <flocculant> NoklaM: what we try to do is make tests as agnostic as we can - so anyone can use a test
[14:06] <NoklaM> Ah I see
[14:07] <NoklaM> so just KISS method
[14:07] <flocculant> yep
[14:10] <NoklaM> and I have to add the <strong> section also
[14:10] <flocculant> yea
[14:10] <flocculant> that is in all testcases
[14:20] <NoklaM> just checking before i push "bzr push lp:~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/testcases/packages/Studio"
[14:20] <NoklaM> Sorry for the amount of questions
[14:20] <flocculant> you're welcome - push to bzr push lp:~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/studio
[14:20] <flocculant> or
[14:21] <flocculant> you could lp:~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/krita
[14:21] <flocculant> when I do it
[14:21] <flocculant> I find the bug I'm fixing and use the number
[14:21] <flocculant> so
[14:22] <flocculant> lp:~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/1183889
[14:22] <flocculant> up to you really :)
[14:22] <flocculant> and assign yourself to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1183889
[14:22] <flocculant> then link your mp to that bug
[14:23] <NoklaM> I broke it /panicmode
[14:23] <flocculant> heh
[14:23] <NoklaM> Oh the bot just anounces it
[14:24] <flocculant> NoklaM: ok I can see that
[14:25] <flocculant> you need to propose for merging - you can put my nick in the reviewer box
[14:25] <flocculant> it might all seem long winded at the moment - but it does make it all followable in 6 months time :)
[14:27] <NoklaM> I can imagine it looking funny if people didn't follow rules and after 6 months everyone was like /oops
[14:29] <NoklaM> Source branch it will be merged to is the ubuntu-manual-tests development focus one?
[14:33] <flocculant> NoklaM: one last thing and I'll deal with it :)
[14:33] <flocculant> https://code.launchpad.net/~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/studio
[14:34] <flocculant> see where it says Link a bug report?
[14:34] <flocculant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1183889
[14:34] <flocculant> use the number there - and assign you to the bug
[14:37] <NoklaM> You mean report a bug?
[14:39] <flocculant> nope - the bug is already there link above, assign it to you - that shows everyone it was you who fixed the bug
[14:40] <flocculant> and link it to your code which fixes it
[14:42] <OvenWerk1> NoklaM: with reguard to ISO boots. The last ISO I booted I was able to boot either way (bios/efi). Some of this stuff depends on the system I guess.
[14:43] <NoklaM> My mobo is picky I guess, but it didn't like windows 7 either
[14:46] <NoklaM> I got a feeling I broke something
[14:46] <NoklaM> just not sure what yet
[14:48] <OvenWerk1> Things do change from iso to iso as well, I installed mine two weeks ago. I am DL the new one so I can fix the menu :)
[14:48] <NoklaM> Oh I got a fresh one this morning I think
[14:49] <NoklaM> from the link above /topic
[14:50] <flocculant> NoklaM: ok - merged that, linked the two, in future can you mark bugs as fix commited though - fix is released when someone adds it to the tracker database
[14:50] <OvenWerk1> I am using zsync which says there is a 22% difference from the last one I downloaded.
[14:50] <flocculant> hi OvenWerk1
[14:50] <OvenWerk1> o/
[14:50] <NoklaM> okie dokie, thanks
[14:55] <NoklaM> eh, I just realised I could have tested pressure sensitivity and all those gimmicks in krita with my tablet
[14:55] <NoklaM> o.O
[14:55] <NoklaM> got a wacom bamboo, might as well do another graphics app and test it there
[14:58] <OvenWerk1> Ah, we need more people who are graphics centered.
[14:59] * OvenWerk1 is almost completely audio headed.
[15:00] <NoklaM> I got AKG microphone but that's about it, bought it, heard my voice on recording and ditched it
[15:01] <flocculant> ha ha
[15:02] <OvenWerk1> my vision is to see Studio work as well out of the box for graphics and video as it does for Audio. But I don't know what would be useful in those areas.
[15:02] <NoklaM> Well GIMP does work great out of the box so does Krita
[15:03] <OvenWerk1> NoklaM: setting up colour on the monitor maybe not..
[15:03] <NoklaM> I'll check that
[15:04] * flocculant hasn't a graphic bone in his body, nor musical unless you count listening all day :p
[15:05] <NoklaM> Is there any streaming - as in spotify type - programs for Linux?
[15:05] <OvenWerk1> I expect the apps themselves work well, but any system tweaks to make the tools like tablets for input and monitor set work would be great.
[15:05] <OvenWerk1> do you have a link I could look at?
[15:06] <NoklaM> link to ?:P
[15:06] <OvenWerk1> a page that tells me what spotify is?
[15:06] <NoklaM> oh :D
[15:07] <NoklaM> spotify.com
[15:07] <NoklaM> It's a commercial app for streaming music
[15:07] <NoklaM> is even free if you don't mind few adds
[15:09] <OvenWerk1> There are certainly streaming tools like icecaste that one can stream their own music through. Most of the Linux players already are able to use it.
[15:10] <OvenWerk1> there is idjc which has everything needed to set up a radio studio with mics, playlist, jingle lists, phone i/o crossfades etc.
[15:11] <NoklaM> That sounds awesome
[15:12] <OvenWerk1> I had set something like that up at home here, but my family has such distinct tastes...
[15:13] <NoklaM> What music you in to?
[15:14] <OvenWerk1> Lots of things from older rock from the last century to country, blues, folk etc.
[15:14] <OvenWerk1> Lots of things from older rock from the last century to country, blues, folk etc.
[15:15] <NoklaM> Bluegrass by any chance?
[15:15] <NoklaM> The joys of running a unstable release
[15:15] * OvenWerk1 finds there is a lot of music he enjoys playing but not listening to so much :)
[15:15] <OvenWerk1> I like some bluegrass too.
[15:16] <NoklaM> It's very Irish folk like,
[15:16] <NoklaM> Also drumkv3 crashed my pc a second ago
[15:16] <OvenWerk1> I got soured on it a bit a few years ago I had a friend who could play only one song on his banjo and so got tired of it.
[15:17] <NoklaM> I had an urge to buy a banjo not so long ago
[15:17] <OvenWerk1> gtk and qt based audio plugins are going through some upheaval just now.
[15:17] <NoklaM> but I still didn't recover from the sore fingers from guitar
[15:18] <NoklaM> My underbed is full of old instruments I'd like to play but I'm to busy with the pc
[15:18] <OvenWerk1> I play bass and guitar. I have started playing mandolin as well.
[15:19] <NoklaM> Now bass is awesome, I had a go at a pwn shop, I literally just plucked the strings and they sounded awesome
[15:19] <OvenWerk1> The mandolin was passed down from my father a few years ago, but I only played it in public the first time a few weeks ago.
[15:19] <NoklaM> Do you have a beard?
[15:19] <NoklaM> Cause that should be a part of the kit when playing mandolin
[15:21] <NoklaM> Also the docker at the bottom of the screen, is there a way to get rid of it?
[15:21] <OvenWerk1> easy to get rid of
[15:22] <NoklaM> I just clicked it and it vanished, well the - on it
[15:22] <OvenWerk1> right click on it, pannel->pannel prefferences
[15:22] <OvenWerk1> in the dialog click the big red minus sign
[15:22] <NoklaM> That should come with the manual
[15:23] <OvenWerk1> I made mine vertical and put it on my right monitor in a smaller size.
[15:23] <NoklaM> Honestly It's been 8 year since I go tmy 1st Ubuntu CD and I still only know how to brake it
[15:24] <NoklaM> I got stuck in the windows zone, but since I kinda dislike constant spying and value my privacy a bit I switched back for good
[15:25] * OvenWerk1 plays this bass: http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/u_eb_page15.php?year=2015&cat_id=2&series_id=51&data_id=51&color=CL01
[15:25] <NoklaM> wow
[15:25] <OvenWerk1> I want to get a matching bass with frets
[15:26] <NoklaM> It's mahogany, i probably wouldn't be able to afford the body of it
[15:28] <OvenWerk1> I have an old Squire I got cheap. I pulled the frets out and filled the slots so I could try fretless playing.
[15:29] <NoklaM> How did that go?
[15:29] <OvenWerk1> I ended up using it a lot because it is 3 pounds lighter than my RIC
[15:29] <NoklaM> that's like 1.5kg
[15:30] <OvenWerk1> It was ok, but once I got the SR I realized how a ready hard neck makes a huge difference in playablility.
[15:30] <OvenWerk1> Ya, I was using my shoulders a lot at work (letter carrying for Canada Poste) and needed less on my days off.
[15:31] <NoklaM> Don't they give you cars?
[15:31] <NoklaM> Or you have to carry a bag?
[15:32] <OvenWerk1> I had a footwalk. On a heavy day I might deal with as much as 350 pounds of mail.
[15:32] <NoklaM> oh man, ouch.
[15:32] <OvenWerk1> that is in 35 pound or so chunks
[15:32] <NoklaM> I've yet to see postman on foot in Ireland
[15:33] <NoklaM> They got so used to cars they do 25m2 block with a car
[15:33] <OvenWerk1> They are woring to do tha here too, but I would rather do the walk
[15:34] <NoklaM> It would be a national protest here if they told em to go on foot
[15:34] <NoklaM> I bet
[15:35] <OvenWerk1> they would have to hire more people... that could be a good thing too
[15:35] <flocculant> hah - they walk about where I am in england
[15:36] <OvenWerk1> The reason they want to go to trucks here is to use less people.
[15:37] <NoklaM> I live in the sticks, so everything is kinda far away from each other
[15:37] <OvenWerk1> Our rural routes are all truck.
[15:37] <NoklaM> closest shop? 20 mnutes walk
[15:37] <flocculant> 15 minutes here
[15:38] <NoklaM> 20s to Tesco, not good for me:( no deli haha
[15:38] <NoklaM> If I walk I do another 5-7 minutes to a petrol station with a deli
[15:39] <NoklaM> Did you lads see mcdonalds replacing workers with menu machines
[15:39] <flocculant> nah
[15:39] <OvenWerk1> not here.
[15:39] <NoklaM> They got few out in US i heard because of the higher wages
[15:41] <NoklaM> Doesn't bother them in Ireland tho, 9.05 or 9.15 Eur from January
[15:41] <NoklaM> that's what they have to pay to the over 18s in full time
[15:42] <OvenWerk1> There are too many people here who would not be able to use a machine. (lots of older people)
[15:42] <flocculant> or ones like me who just refuse point-blank to do so
[15:43] <flocculant> I don't use them in supermarkets either
[15:43] <NoklaM> but in all honesty it's kinda going that way, automotion
[15:45] <OvenWerk1> I don't use selfserve checkouts either.
[15:45] <OvenWerk1> no choice for gas... (petrol?)
[15:46] <NoklaM> Self Service petrol station?
[15:46] <OvenWerk1> all of them.
[15:46] <NoklaM> Oh wow, i seen one nearby Dublin once
[15:46] <NoklaM> But that's about it
[15:46] <OvenWerk1> There may be one or two full service places around, but you have to know where they are.
[15:47] <NoklaM> oh wow
[15:47] <NoklaM> And I thought if I move to Canada it will be easy to find a job
[15:47] <NoklaM> but with my qualifications clerk on petrol station is max
[15:47] <OvenWerk1> depends where (and when)
[15:48] <NoklaM> I'd like somewhere sunny :P Is that an option in Canada?
[15:51] <NoklaM> sick of rain and wind
[15:53] <OvenWerk1> your pick, rain and wind or sun and cold and snow.
[15:53] * OvenWerk1 lives in the Comox Valley
[15:54] <NoklaM> The thought of snow scares me, I seen it once in last 4 years and it was whole 2 inches that blocked the country
[15:54] <OvenWerk1> there is a difference between dry snow and wet snow. Dry is easier to deal with.
[15:54] <OvenWerk1> I grew up in Calgary Alberta.
[15:55] <flocculant> NoklaM: don't forget that here and where you are, we don't really get snow, so don't spend €'s or £'s on dealing with it generally
[15:55] <flocculant> hence Heathrow shuts with half an inch ...
[15:56] <OvenWerk1> Terrace BC if you like _lots_ of snow.
[15:56] <NoklaM> Oh no, I'd stay away from it
[15:56] <NoklaM> It's like rain, but its solid
[15:57] <NoklaM> I never see people put winter tyres here
[15:57] <NoklaM> And half or 1 inch drops and the whole country comes to a stop
[15:57] <OvenWerk1> Ontario sometimes has a lot too, because of the Great lakes. Alberta is cold but mostly sunny, the snow doesn't get that deep.
[16:00] <OvenWerk1> NoklaM: The difference is that an inch of snow where you are vanishes the same or next day. In Calgary an inch of snow might stick around for 6 weeks.
[16:03] <NoklaM> That's true I've never seen last longer than 2 days
[16:06] <flocculant> I'm old enough to have seen it in England
[16:06] <NoklaM> I've only been here 10 years
[16:06] <flocculant> I've been here since 1963 :D
[16:06] <NoklaM> I'm not 10 btw :P
[16:06] <flocculant> ha ha
[16:07] * OvenWerk1 has to go.
[16:07] <OvenWerk1> o/
[16:07] <flocculant> cya OvenWerk1
[16:07] <NoklaM> See you mate, was nice chatting to you :)
[16:08] <flocculant> I should too - got a session to be ready for later https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-November/010969.html
[16:09] <flocculant> NoklaM might have an interest in that - it'll be xubuntu based, but the basics will be pretty much agnostic
[16:09] <NoklaM> Was just thinking that
[16:09] <NoklaM> Since I have ton a of questions
[16:11] <NoklaM> And finally my mailing list is working
[16:11] <NoklaM> I can reply /woopwoop
[16:11] <flocculant> :)
[16:12] <flocculant> NoklaM: well as long as a question works for me with my real hat on I'll answer it :)
[16:12] <NoklaM> You won't probably believe it but I've been running circles on the launchpad website
[16:12] <NoklaM> still can't find the one saying which softwar eneeds to be tested
[16:13] <flocculant> oh right
[16:13] <flocculant> I can link you to the list of bugs for needed testcases for Studio
[16:13] <NoklaM> oh would be awesome
[16:13] <flocculant> you won't find testing yet - that's not set up and lives somewhere else
[16:14] <flocculant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bugs?field.tag=ubuntu-studio&orderby=-id&start=0
[16:15] <NoklaM> tyvm :)
[16:15] <flocculant> NoklaM: just remember, find a bug, assign you, do the testcase, push MP, link bug to that MP, propose fix
[16:16] <NoklaM> Just looking for the ones i have at least slight idea of how they work
[16:16] <flocculant> yep - completely understood
[16:16] <flocculant> and I'm good with you putting me as reviewer too
[16:17] <NoklaM> awesome :)
[16:17] <flocculant> now you've got the basic hang of it - just push them, if there's an issue I will comment on the proposal
[16:18] <NoklaM> There is few i might have an idea how to run
[16:18] <NoklaM> and what they do
[16:18] <NoklaM> Honestly I was overwhelmed with the amount of software that came with Studio
[16:20] <NoklaM> Was either Studio or try to run Mac OSX on AMD cpu
[16:20] <NoklaM> Windows just pushed the line
[16:23] <flocculant> NoklaM: I would guess that the best thing to do if you're more graphic is to do those
[16:23] <flocculant> I'm pretty sure that Rosco2 is just pleased to have someone helping and if you can do a % that's going to be \o/
[16:24] <flocculant> this has whole testing thing's been floating about for quite a while
[16:24] <NoklaM> d'oh shrini was faster than me on inkscape
[16:24] <Rosco2> You bet :-)
[16:24] <flocculant> :D
[16:25] <Rosco2> Just been updating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Testing/Testcases
[16:25] <Rosco2> Glad to add krita!
[16:25] <flocculant> NoklaM: perhaps but if you look at the code from shrini I asked a couple of months ago if it was still being worked on
[16:26] <flocculant> so - if you can actually do the deed and propose a test - that'll supersede something from Aug 2014 ;)
[16:27] <NoklaM> I'll be glad to
[16:27] * flocculant is pretty much totally aware of what's going on with manual testcase code
[16:28] <flocculant> Rosco2: at some point you're going to need to try and get your head around the admin side of the trackers - I'd be happy to help you out, but I'm guessing timezones will make week hard, so I would make myself available at a weekend for an hour or so
[16:29] <Rosco2> I just logged in actually.
[16:29] <flocculant> might need zequence to add me to your release team temporarily so I can actually see things on the tracker
[16:29] <Rosco2> Need to link the test cases to some test suites
[16:29] * flocculant can't admin studio stuff
[16:29] <Rosco2> Like US Audio, visio graphics etc
[16:30] <Rosco2> whoops video
[16:30] <flocculant> Rosco2: perhaps start working with an etherpad on what you want to see it looking like
[16:30] <Rosco2> good idea
[16:31] <flocculant> I can make notes on what I've learnt about it all when I've time then :)
[16:56] <NoklaM> argh bzr keeps commiting on the first file i created instead of the latest
[16:56] <NoklaM> tried bzr help commit but there ain't much there
[16:58] <OvenWerk1> bzr add?
[16:58] <NoklaM> did that and still commits on the 1st file
[17:14] <NoklaM> I wonder did it work
[17:16] <NoklaM> d'oh
[17:16] <NoklaM> how do I cancel a push?
[17:17] <NoklaM> nvm:P
[17:25] <flocculant> NoklaM: that's why I do that push to different branches bzr push lp:~flocculant/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug#foo example
[17:26] <flocculant> you keep pushing to the same branch so the old stuff shows still
[17:26] <NoklaM> I just changed the dir and it updated it hinks
[17:26] <NoklaM> I thinks*
[17:27] <flocculant> as it is = please push it again so that inkscape is inside /Studio - don't need folders for everything :)
[17:27] <NoklaM> ok :P
[17:27] <flocculant> check out the /xfce branch of the testcase
[17:27] <flocculant> s
[17:28] <OvenWerk1> I use two local directories (at least with GIT) So for https://github.com/ovenwerks/mcpdisp I have ~/software/mcpdisp/mcpdisp/ and ~/software/mcpdisp/work/
[17:29] <flocculant> OvenWerk1: yea - I don't know enough about bzr to comment tbh
[17:29] <flocculant> I just push my bugfixes to specific branches like bzr push lp:~flocculant/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug#
[17:29] <OvenWerk1> I pull to the first and then do all my work in work... if I screw work up too much I can delete the whole directory and reclone from the local clean copy. For mcpdisp that is not too important, but for something like Ardour a reclone from the master takes forever.
[17:30] <Rosco2> Yes. It is best to pull the latest bzr before starting a new testcase
[17:30] <flocculant> NoklaM: aah yes - before starting on a new one bzr pull
[17:30] <Rosco2> And create a new branch from that to work on the bug as flocculant says
[17:30] <OvenWerk1> bzr status will normally tell you what you are going to commit.
[17:30] <flocculant> assuming someone has done the merge
[17:31] <flocculant> frankly when I was doing a lot - I just kept pulling branch afresh - and delete the old one
[17:31] <flocculant> pulling here takes ~15 seconds :D
[17:33] <flocculant> bzr still does my head in at frequent intervals I have to say :)
[17:40] <flocculant> Rosco2: if nothing else - this was a really useful few hours :)
[17:40] <flocculant> NoklaM deserves a Gold Star :)
[17:41] <NoklaM> I'm still fighting with bzr :P
[17:41] <flocculant> I could refer you to an earlier comment from me :D
[17:42] <flocculant> NoklaM: frankly if push comes to shove - rename the branch with your work in it, pull the main branch and copy it in :)
[17:42] <NoklaM> I managed to delete that directory xD
[17:42] <NoklaM> I'm at that stage
[17:42] <flocculant> I would say I'd done that one or twice - but the truth would be many more ;)
[17:43] <Rosco2> Yes - very productive today
[17:43] <flocculant> yep
[17:43] <flocculant> I'm glad I popped by
[17:43] <Rosco2> I have deleted the odd bzr branch to start again too
[17:43] <Rosco2> I still do it for git, but much less
[17:44] <flocculant> I've only ever used bzr to work with, I've git cloned to get some xfce stuff in my other hat
[17:45] <flocculant> I don't code - apart from Hello World ...
[17:46] <NoklaM> bzr push lp:~noklam/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug#1183022
[17:46] <NoklaM> is that the right one? Just making sure
[17:46] <NoklaM> i pushed a commit that deleted the directories and updated the original file
[17:47] <flocculant> that works for sure
[17:47] <flocculant> NoklaM: just make sure you've done the linking of bug to code ;)
[17:59] <NoklaM> apparently it deleted my original file
[17:59] <NoklaM> brb got to smoke
[17:59] <NoklaM> argh
[18:00] <flocculant> NoklaM: can;t help immediately - but I do have a local copy now :D
[18:03] <NoklaM> I have no idea what I did /insertMonkeyPictureWithKeyboard
[18:07] <flocculant> done that
[18:07] <flocculant> afk for a bit while we do our irc testing session
[18:08] <NoklaM> I'll be there in a moment
[18:09] <NoklaM> managed to restore the file /lol
[18:13] <NoklaM> bzr = the devil
[18:14] <flocculant> \o/
[18:22] <NoklaM> I think I'm gona write a post and publish it somewhere about how to avoid getting burned by bzr
[18:23] <flocculant> I'd read it ;)
[18:25] <NoklaM> that is if I did everything right in the last of me using it
[18:25] <NoklaM> else { Go back to square 1 }
[18:45] <Rosco2> Noklam: good idea to write it all down
[18:45] <Rosco2> Plus links to helpful sites
[18:45] <Rosco2> Over time you refer to them less and less
[18:45] <NoklaM> I found the man page explained a lot but the removal part was bad in it
[18:46] <NoklaM> I'll probably start a blog somewhere if for the future testers
[18:46] <NoklaM> but untill i have all the knowledge written down, im gonna ask a lot of question :P
[18:47] <flocculant> NoklaM: few typo's in latest
[18:47] <NoklaM> d'oh
[18:47] <NoklaM> i spell checked :(
[18:47] <NoklaM> I'll fix
[18:50] <NoklaM> Hopefully the gedit spellchecker is worth it
[18:53] <flocculant> yea
[18:53] <flocculant> yanks
[18:53] <flocculant> can't spell English it seems :D
[18:56] <NoklaM> I've just pushed the 362 revision which should (spell checker blame) have the spelling mistakes corrected
[18:57] <NoklaM> buginstructions I just read that as begininstructions, must be tired
[19:01] <flocculant> time for beer then ;)
[19:01] <NoklaM> I literally didn't sleep 24h
[19:02] <NoklaM> but that's because i have to go do bloods tomorrow
[19:02] <NoklaM> and my sleep schedule is like swiss cheese
[19:11] <NoklaM> so i can safely delete krita from my files and it won't commit it anymore by the dozens
[20:03] <NoklaM> good night everyone
[20:03] <NoklaM> see you tomorrow
[20:11] <flocculant> night
[20:47] <zequence> Wow. Busy day :)
[20:48] <flocculant> zequence: yep - and you haz tests :D
[20:55] <zequence> Awesome!
[20:57] <zequence> I've been recording all day. Noticed some problem with our desktop metas. Will have to investigate more tomorrow.
[21:01] <zequence> It doesn't seem to be building, or something. The source is in -proposed, but no binaries.
[21:01] <zequence> Well, the whole meta source package of course, but has something to do with the desktop seeds
[21:02] <flocculant> bah
[21:03] <zequence> I was expecting something like this. Didn't much look at the details the other day.
[21:03] <flocculant> Rosco2: can you please get across to noklam that if they make sure to link bugs and code - someone else doesn't have to chase about making sure bugs get marked properly when code lands 0 thanks :
[21:04] <flocculant> zequence: qa got busy all of a sudden ;)
[21:05] <zequence> flocculant: It did! Nice to see someone like NoklaM show up as well, out of the blue :).
[21:06] <flocculant> yea for sure - did what I could to help there :)
[21:06] <zequence> flocculant: You're a giant help, for sure!
[21:07] <zequence> Prolly sounds better in Swedish.
[21:16] <flocculant> ha ha
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.735442
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"EtroS",
"NoklaM",
"OvenWerk1",
"Rosco2",
"flocculant",
"zequence"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/29/%23ubuntustudio-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[02:17] <MysterBlu> . _.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.738856
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"MysterBlu"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/29/%23ubuntu-us-fl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-fl"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-ch
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[15:14] <WaVeR> Hi all
[15:15] <WaVeR> marcus> are you around ?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.739601
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"WaVeR"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/29/%23ubuntu-ch.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ch"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-touch
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[00:43] <amazoniantoad> Anywhere I can buy an ubuntu phone? :c
[00:44] <amazoniantoad> I was going to get one for christmas but they are all sold out...tried to look into putting it on my phone. but no branch has been made for my device
[02:08] <dobey> muka: no, hotspot on mako doesn't work. it's explicitly disabled on that device for now
[02:13] <muka> dobey, thank you. do you know if proposed channel have that?
[02:33] <dobey> muka: it does not have it enabled
[02:33] <dobey> or if it does, it doesn't work
[13:24] <netstar> hello!
[13:25] <netstar> I have flashed the recovery image and now I have a xenial*boot*.img and xenial-pre*touch*armhf*tar.gz I should copy these to nexus 7 and flash them both from the boot loader and that should work ok?
[13:27] <netstar> Am installing from Debian, it seems Ubuntu has easier tools
[13:47] <netstar> is there a guide to install without the ubuntu tools?
[13:48] <mpt> That’s weird … On my phone the Dash isn’t running and won’t launch
[17:05] <netstar> Has anyone here got SDL2 running with Ubuntu Touch (unstable?+)
[17:09] <ogra_> netstar, plenty of people ... (neverball, tuxracer, neverputt and a bunch of other apps in the store use it)
[17:18] <netstar> ahar!
[18:04] <netstar> is there anyway to install a working unstable install with minimal software?
[20:45] <Sleep_Walker> is GPS working on Aquaris E4.5? Is there a way how to verify it?
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.747380
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{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Sleep_Walker",
"amazoniantoad",
"dobey",
"mpt",
"muka",
"netstar",
"ogra_"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/29/%23ubuntu-touch.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-touch"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:23] <ipeter> 안녕하세요?
[00:49] <woodong50> 안녕하세요:-)
[00:49] <woodong50> 리눅스 c언어 네트워크 공부중입니다
[00:50] <woodong50> 쉽운책자나 블로그 추천좀 해주세여
[00:51] <woodong50> 네트워프로그램이 만만치 않네
[00:59] <JasonJang> "후니의 쉽게 쓴 씨스코 네트워킹"이 있지만, C 위주로 나온 내용은 아니어서 좀 안습
[01:58] <autowiz> 네트워크 소캣 프로그래밍 , C 들어가는 책 찾아보시면서 목차를 한번 훓어보느것도 괜찮으실거 같습니다.
[02:10] <autowiz> http://www.yes24.com/24/goods/231892?scode=032&OzSrank=3
[02:10] <autowiz> TCP/IP 소켓프로그래밍 C version : The Pocket Guide TCP/IP Sockets
[02:10] <autowiz> Michael J. Donahoo,Keneth L. Calvert 공저/박준철 역 | 지앤선(志&嬋)
[02:10] <autowiz> http://www.yes24.com/24/goods/3595449?scode=032&OzSrank=2
[02:10] <autowiz> 얇지만 얇지 않은 TCP/IP 소켓 프로그래밍 C 2판
[02:10] <autowiz> 마이클 도나후,케네스 칼버트 공저/유재필 역 | 비제이퍼블릭(BJ퍼블릭) | 원제 : TCP/IP Sockets in C 2/e
[02:10] <autowiz> 위에 책이 고전적인 기본적인 책자 같네요
[02:11] <autowiz> 아래쪽은 좀더 넖은부분을 설명할려고 하는거 같은데 핵심적인 부분이 설명이 덜할 까봐 조금 걱정이네요
[02:11] <autowiz> 위쪽책을 조금더 추천드리고 싶습니다.
[07:56] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3807045&cpage=1
[07:58] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~~
[07:58] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇㅇ
[07:59] <PotatoGim> 오.. 두번째 책은 배울게 많을 것 같네요.
[08:04] <OrganicM> http://blog.naver.com/jinpace0813/220552863530
[08:07] <OrganicM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywvUTWPlBhM
[08:13] <OrganicM> http://www.eoshd.com/2014/11/panasonic-cm1-review-part-1-smartphone-first-impressions/
[10:34] <woodong50> 다들 추천해주어서 고맙습니다
[11:07] <JasonJang> ^^
[11:24] <PotatoGim> 어후.. 글로만 배운 PERT를 직접 해보려니 어렵네요...
[11:31] <autowiz> pert 가 뭐에요? ㅎㅎ
[11:33] <PotatoGim> 공정 관리 기법이라고 그럴싸한 분류가 있기는 한데...
[11:33] <PotatoGim> 그냥 계획 짜는 방법입니다..ㅎㅎ
[11:34] <PotatoGim> 요번에 일 계획서 작성하면서 한번 해보고 있는데 생각만큼 만만하지가 않네요...
[11:35] <autowiz> 좀 불편해보여도 다 하는 이유가 있겠지요 ㅎㅎ
[11:35] <PotatoGim> 예, 확실히 표본이 많이 쌓일수록 일정 산출이 좀 더 정확해질 수 있을 것 같습니다.
[11:37] <autowiz> 포테토님 팀은 개발 몇명이서 하세요?
[11:38] <PotatoGim> 거의 한 팀이 3~4명 정도 되는 것 같습니다. 다만 같은 코드를 다 같이 개발하는게 아니다보니...
[11:38] <PotatoGim> 저번에는 사실상 2명이서 다 했고...
[11:38] <autowiz> 그럼 몇팀정도나 있으실까요
[11:39] <PotatoGim> 4팀입니다 ㅎㅎ
[11:40] <autowiz> 생각보다는 사람이 적은게 아닐까 싶습니다만
[11:40] <PotatoGim> 네 저도 큰 문제 중 하나라고 생각합니다...ㅜ
[11:43] <autowiz> ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[11:44] <PotatoGim> 게다가 이젠 혼자 합니다...ㅎㅎ
[11:45] <autowiz> 일하다 쓰러져서 병원한번 실려가실거 같은데요 ㅠㅠ
[11:46] <PotatoGim> 쓰러지기 전에 동료를 모아야겠습니다!
[12:19] <autowiz> 저두고 먼저 병원 가시면 안되는겁니다 ㅎㅎ
[12:21] <PotatoGim> ㅎㅎ 오는 주랑 다음 주는 행사가 두개나 있네요..
[12:23] <PotatoGim> 오는 주엔 FOSS CON이 있고... 다음 주에는 인텔 소프트웨어 컨퍼런스가 있고...
[12:24] <autowiz> 전에 저희 같이 신청했던게 언제였었지요?
[12:24] <autowiz> 기억이 ㅠㅠ
[12:26] <PotatoGim> 으허허.. 신청은 언제인지 기억이 가물가물합니다...ㅜ
[12:27] <ipeter> 휴.
[12:27] <ipeter> 설마 다들 직장이신건가요?
[12:27] <autowiz> 아니요 들으러 갈 날짜요
[12:27] <autowiz> 그게 인텔이었었나요?
[12:27] <ipeter> 주말은 잘 보내셨나요.
[12:28] <PotatoGim> 아, 8~9일입니다!
[12:28] <autowiz> 당근 일요일 저녁은 회사이지요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[12:28] <PotatoGim> 예 정신없는 주말을 보내고 있네요 ㅎㅎ
[12:28] <autowiz> 다다음주 군요
[12:28] <autowiz> 저는 월요일 연차휴가~ ㅋㅋ
[12:28] <autowiz> 간만에 관공서좀 돌아다녀야해서
[12:28] <PotatoGim> 오오...
[12:29] <PotatoGim> 연말에는 묵힌 연차를 팍팍!
[12:29] <autowiz> 겨울에 보드타러갈려고 일주일 연속을 쉴테세로 5일을 딱 남겨놨었는데
[12:29] <autowiz> 생각해보니 12월은 힘들거같고
[12:29] <autowiz> 1월이나 2월이 될거 같기도 하고 어쩌면 프로젝트 때문에 바빠서 못갈 수 도 있고
[12:29] <PotatoGim> 헉... 저도 보드 생초짜라 잘 타고 싶은데...
[12:30] <PotatoGim> 저는...
[12:30] <autowiz> 같이 가요 같이 ㅎㅎㅎ 저는 하루에 12번도 아니 12번이 뭐야 한 30번 넘어집니다.
[12:30] <PotatoGim> 오즈님은 내공이 느껴지셔서... 감히 제가...ㅋㅋ
[12:31] <autowiz> 동영상 찍어놓은거 있는데 다들 보고는 그냥 비웃는다는 ㅋㅋㅋ
[12:31] <autowiz> 저도 아직 3번 ? 4번 밖에 못가봤어요
[12:33] <PotatoGim> 헉.. 저는 달랑 한번...
[12:35] <autowiz> 살살 타는 맛이 들기시작하면 점점 재미있어지는데 아아 늦기전에\
[12:35] <autowiz> 자주 다녀오세요
[12:49] <PotatoGim> 한번 계획을 짜봐야겠네요. 안그래도 몇몇 분들이 가니마니 하던데 꼽사리로...흐흐..
[12:53] <autowiz> 기초적인 운동을 살짝하고 가시면 좋습니다.
[12:53] <autowiz> 하루 팔굽혀펴기 200개 정도 ㅋㅋ
[12:53] <PotatoGim> 억... 하체 운동이 아니구요?
[12:53] <autowiz> 농담이구요 ㅎㅎ 하루 20개씩 3세트 정도 열흘만해도
[12:53] <autowiz> 전신이 다 필요해요
[12:54] <PotatoGim> 그렇군요.. 하체 힘이 필요하다는 이야기를 많이 들어서 하체 좋으면 땡인 줄 알았는데...
[12:56] <ipeter> 휴,.,,
[12:56] <ipeter> 저도 집에서 책좀보면서 공부하고 있습니다.
[12:56] <ipeter> 왜케 배울게 많나요.
[12:56] <ipeter> usb로 다운로드좀 했으면 좋겠네요.
[12:59] <autowiz> 하체가 훨신 많이 들긴하지요
[13:03] <autowiz> 운동 조금이라도 한거랑 안한거랑 차이 있으니 재미있게 즐기실려면 운동을 ㅎㅎ
[13:57] <ipeter> aws서비스 이용하시는분 계신가요?
[15:16] <ipeter> 헐. 왜 source /etc/environment가 안먹히죠?
[15:16] <ipeter> ㅠㅠ
[17:44] <ahoops> 늦은밤 다들 고생이 많으십니다 (__)
[18:40] <autowiz> 아훕스님~ ㅎㅎ 오늘도 잘 지내시고 계시지요? ㅎㅎ
[20:33] <ahoops> 넹~ 덕분에요 ~ ㅋ
[20:37] <ahoops> 흠;; 졸리네요
[21:55] <ahoops> ..
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.764411
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"HolyKnight",
"JasonJang",
"OrganicM",
"PotatoGim",
"ahoops",
"autowiz",
"ipeter",
"woodong50"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/29/%23ubuntu-ko.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ko"
}
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2015-11-29-#lubuntu
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[08:29] <tachibana> i love you lubuntu
[08:30] <tachibana> i have so many improvement ideas for you but I cant code fluently
[08:35] <jdx> tachibana, you can go to the bug tracker and make feature requests
[08:36] <tachibana> it's so annoying that you gotta know a 6 key hashcode to change the time format in lxde
[08:37] <tachibana> army time is for betas
[08:39] <tachibana> betas that fantasize about getting bossed around by drill sergeants and possibly even about getting drilled by said 'drill seargents'
[08:40] <tachibana> this is low cpu resources stuck on yoda's planet luke skywalker master race
[08:40] <tachibana> not scooterpuff jr. with extra turtle wax master race
[16:08] <Paul-Z> Hi!
[16:08] <Paul-Z> Umm... What is the packname of desktop pages setting? thanks
[16:10] <Paul-Z> is there a list of all of lxde pack?
[18:17] <dimitris> hello
[18:18] <Guest53668> i have a really old pc with 128 kb ram
[18:18] <Guest53668> what lubuntu or lxle is best for it?
[18:20] <Guest53668> ?
[18:23] <bioterror> 128 kb?
[18:24] <Guest53668> yeap
[18:27] <liber> i removed some pkgs including xorg mesa and gpu driver and installed them again a little after that but now x wont start
[18:28] <liber> only error it gives is /usr/bin/openbox error wile loading shared libraries: libEGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no suck file or directory
[18:28] <liber> what is this about, i am a bit lost
[18:30] <ianorlin> liber: you need graphics drivers to run X
[18:30] <liber> they are installed, all of the removed pkgs
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.771229
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"Paul-Z",
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-pl
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[09:22] <zasek> ledwie dycham
[09:22] <Ashiren> uff
[09:22] <zasek> jezu ale ostatki by…y zaje......te
[09:22] <Ashiren> krakow?
[09:23] <zasek> rzeszów
[09:25] <qermit> ustawcie sobie utf
[09:25] <qermit> towarzyszu zasek
[09:26] <zasek> utf?
[09:26] <zasek> ęąó o to chodzi?
[09:28] <TheNumb> `utf8
[09:28] <TheNumb> .utf8
[09:28] <TheNumb> hmm
[09:28] <zasek> Linkin Park -Numb
[09:30] <Ashiren> zażółć gęślą jaźń
[09:30] <Ashiren> ale on u mnie dziala
[09:30] <SamusSR388> u mnie też
[09:53] <cylon> u mnie też..
[12:51] <variuss> siema
[12:51] <firemark> witam
[12:51] <variuss> jak przestawic przyciski na oknach na prawa strone
[12:51] <variuss> w 15.10
[12:52] <firemark> w opcjach pewnie
[12:52] <variuss> znalazłem unity tweak tool
[12:52] <variuss> jest opcja ale nie dająca efektu
[13:31] <TheNumb> od którejś wersji unity nie da się przestawić przycisków :D
[13:58] <d42> kek
[14:02] <firemark> TheNumb: akurat przyciski po lewej stronie są idiotyczne
[14:02] <TheNumb> firemark: mi nie robi z której mam
[14:02] <firemark> chyba bardziej chce wiedzieć czego okno dotyczy a później czy chce je zamknąć :D
[14:03] <TheNumb> W sumie to najczęściej właśnie mam kursor bardziej po lewej stronie ekranu <:
[14:03] <firemark> mierzyles?
[14:03] <firemark> w sumie co ja sie produkuje, ja w ogóle okien nie mam i jest wesoło :D
[14:03] <TheNumb> co mierzyłem?
[14:03] <firemark> gdzie masz najczesciej kursor
[14:03] <TheNumb> Przecież widzę :D
[14:04] <firemark> TheNumb: btw. bedziesz na wroc.py we wtorek?
[14:04] <TheNumb> a gdzie i o której?
[14:04] <firemark> a czekaj, tego jeszcze neiw iem
[14:04] <TheNumb> :D
[14:04] <TheNumb> Tue Dec 1
[14:04] <TheNumb> 7:00 PM
[14:04] <firemark> Woda Sodowa św Antoniego
[14:04] <TheNumb> św. Antoniego 2/4, Wroclaw
[14:04] <TheNumb> lol
[14:04] <TheNumb> :D
[14:05] <TheNumb> koło mojej pracy ;p
[14:05] <firemark> hah
[14:05] <firemark> no to ogólnie, nie przychodź bo ja robie prelekcje
[14:05] <firemark> :D
[14:05] <TheNumb> tak na prawde to praktycznie w mojej pracy :|
[14:05] <TheNumb> biuro mamy na świętego antoniego
[14:06] <TheNumb> i mam widok z okien na patio :D
[14:06] <TheNumb> firemark: a o czym prelekcja?
[14:06] <firemark> ipython notebook + scipy
[14:06] <TheNumb> mhm
[14:07] <TheNumb> może wpadnę
[14:07] <TheNumb> jeszcze zobaczę ;p
[14:07] <TheNumb> jak mi poniedziałek da w kość to raczej nie
[14:07] <firemark> spoko, jak bedziesz mieć czas
[14:07] <firemark> ale to akurat wtorek
[14:07] <TheNumb> zapierdziel będzie przez cyber monday
[14:07] <TheNumb> ;f
[14:07] <TheNumb> infry padające etc etc
[14:07] <firemark> wut
[14:07] <TheNumb> no :D
[14:08] <TheNumb> serwery nieźle dostają po dupie przez takie imprezy ;f
[14:08] <firemark> ze ty takie serwery obsługujesz?
[14:09] <firemark> bo nie widzę związku
[17:32] <marti> (.)(.)
[17:32] <firemark> same porno
[17:32] <firemark> na kanale publicznym, gdzie moga byc dzieci
[17:32] <firemark> gdzie jest wasze CoC?
[17:35] <Ashiren> (_|_)
[17:51] * Bodzioslaw ma 5 lat
[17:51] <Bodzioslaw> powiedziałem już mamie
[17:51] <Bodzioslaw> Voldenet: ^
[18:51] <Voldenet> Ja mam 13 i również powiedziałem mamie.
[18:51] <Voldenet> Jak wam nie wstyd?
[18:53] <gjm> cześć, jestem wojtek i też mam 13 lar
[18:53] <gjm> t
[18:53] * Voldenet tips fedora
[18:54] <gjm> http://zadane.pl/zadanie/9238144
[18:54] <gjm> co
[18:56] <Voldenet> Za 37
[18:57] <Voldenet> :_)
[18:57] <Voldenet> Mam nadzieję, że pomogłem.
[18:59] <gjm> z humorkiem
[19:59] <d42> wtf
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.784674
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"Bodzioslaw",
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-tr
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[17:27] <gulle> slmlr
[17:28] <gulle> kubuntuda yetkili eylemler sekmesını nasıl acarız
[17:29] <Kartagis> o ne demek? sudo yetkileri mi?
[17:30] <gulle> evet abi
[17:31] <Kartagis> gksudo dene
[17:31] <gulle> mesala eskı pardusda sag tıklayınca eylemler ve yetkili eylemler cıkıyordu
[17:32] <Kartagis> pardus'u bilmiyorum
[17:32] <gulle> yetkili eylemlerde dosya acmatasımasılme vb dıger root hakkı gerektıren işlerı orda tyababiliyordun
[17:33] <Kartagis> gksudo nautilus
[17:35] <gulle> (gksudo:3135): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion 'value != NULL' failed
[17:35] <gulle> dıyor abi
[17:36] <Kartagis> bu normal sanırım, terminalden çalıştırıyorsun
[17:37] <Kartagis> neden sudo ile yapmıyorsun bu arada?
[17:38] <gulle> abi sudo dolphin le sadece doplhin yetkılı olarak acılır
[17:39] <Kartagis> hayır hayır
[17:39] <gulle> yetkılı eylemlerı sekmesınde mesala fstob ı acacan sag tıklayıp yetkili kullanıcıeylemlerıyle ac dıyınce oto acıyor
[17:39] <Kartagis> terminalden diyorum
[17:40] <gulle> ben vındowsdan donmeyım abi konsol zor geliyor
[17:43] <Kartagis> alışırsın :)
[17:43] <Kartagis> ben de windows'tan gelmiştim
[17:46] <gulle> bu yetkılı kullanıcı eylemlerını bulsaydım guzel olacaktı yaw
[17:46] <gulle> lfs de biraz yardımı olacaktı
[21:33] <mehmetcengiz> selam turkler nerden bakalım hangi şehirden??
[21:34] <mehmetcengiz> selam la kimse yokmu
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.790778
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"Kartagis",
"gulle",
"mehmetcengiz"
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2015-11-29-#lubuntu-devel
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[23:27] <tsimonq2> wxl: I know it isn't important at this stage, but I am doing the ISO QA tests for Lubuntu Xenial image 20151129
[23:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: but either way, why *not* do it?
[23:32] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[23:49] <tsimonq2> wxl: bug 1432276 is fixed, not present anymore in Xenial
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.794460
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"tsimonq2"
],
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"channel": "#lubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu+1
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[02:06] <elhoir> hello, a question not specific for Ubuntu, but Linux in general
[02:07] <elhoir> i was wondering, now that systemd has replaced init....
[02:07] <elhoir> how do you switch between runlevels?
[02:07] <elhoir> i mean, it was "init 1", "init 6"....
[02:07] <elhoir> but , how do you do so now that systemd is the init daemon?
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:07] <shookees> hi
[15:28] <SCHAAP137> looking forward to Xenial Xerus
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.796051
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"BluesKaj",
"SCHAAP137",
"elhoir",
"shookees"
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"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
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2015-11-29-#maas
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[17:19] <nagyz> hi guys
[17:20] <nagyz> I've just upgraded to rc2 and somehow PXE boot stopped working.. I see in the logs that the machine gets a DHCP address but nothing further happens (either in the logs on or at the machine's pxe bootloader)
[17:20] <nagyz> where could I debug this further? I guess it could be stuck doing the tftp transfer...
[17:28] <nagyz> after the upgrade this seems completely broken for me now :(
[18:56] <nagyz> a bit of a dead channel, eh?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.799126
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"nagyz"
],
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"channel": "#maas"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-fi
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[15:03] <pesasa> http://viikonvalo.fi/Moodle
[15:03] <pesasa> http://viikonvalo.fi/QGIS
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.800081
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"pesasa"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-unity
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[12:13] <Mirv> Saviq: publishing the 005 and rebuilding my stuff in 012
[15:19] <Guest74213> help, i can't build unity8 on 16.04
[15:19] <Guest74213> i get this error -- checking for module 'unity-shell-application=10'
[15:19] <Guest74213> -- package 'unity-shell-application=10' not found
[15:31] <anpok> i can remeber that problem
[15:32] <anpok> hm but either installing missnig stuff with the guidance of dpkg-checkbuildeps or updating xenial solved the problem..
[15:35] <Guest74213> anpok, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1520953
[15:35] <Guest74213> updated everything, still the same
[15:35] <Guest74213> thanks
[15:37] <Guest74213> anpok, this happened after this last unity8 update, i had no problem building unity8 on 16.04 before
[15:38] <Guest74213> anpok, "before" = yesterday
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.802319
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"Guest74213",
"Mirv",
"anpok"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntustudio
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[05:34] <studio-user103> hi, quick question if anyone is available
[05:39] <studio-user103> I've had to reinstall three times now, can anyone tell me a reason why my hard drives boot area would be reformating to fat32 after working well for a few startups on an HP Pavilion all-in-one?
[05:45] <studio-user103> I've had to reinstall three times now, can anyone tell me a reason why my hard drives boot area would be reformating to fat32 after working well for a few startups on an HP Pavilion all-in-one?
[06:07] <studio-user103> I've had to reinstall three times now, can anyone tell me a reason why my hard drives boot area would be reformating to fat32 after working well for a few startups on an HP Pavilion all-in-one?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.804085
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-news
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[10:08] <pleia2> not much work has been done on summaries yet, I'm off to catch a flight home in a couple hours
[10:09] <pleia2> should be home in ~12-14 hours, but it would be nice if I don't have to do them all when I get in :)
[15:06] * tsimonq2 is on a mission
[15:07] <tsimonq2> *queue '90's theme song in the background*
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.806457
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"pleia2",
"tsimonq2"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-gr
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[17:05] <salih-emin> simosx, είσαι εδώ ?
[19:29] <eliasps> Παιδιά έχει κανείς ιδέα πως φτιάχνουμε patches και τα στέλνουμε στο lp;
[19:29] <eliasps> quilt new νομίζω είναι αρκετό για απλά patch. Το θέμα είναι ποια είναι η διαδικασία μετά για να εφαρμοστεί η αλλαγή επίσημα.
[19:30] <eliasps> πως την στέλνεις..
[19:30] <salih-emin> στείλε στον Niko
[19:30] <eliasps> salih-emin τι γίνεται;
[19:30] <salih-emin> καλά
[19:30] <salih-emin> μια χαρά
[19:31] <eliasps> Χαχαχα, ναι θα τον πρίξω λίγο.
[19:31] <salih-emin> έτσι πρέπει
[19:31] <salih-emin> χααχαχχααχ
[19:31] <eliasps> Ίσως καταφέρω να κάνω fix κάποιο bug πρώτη φορά :P
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.810791
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"eliasps",
"salih-emin"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-dk
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[14:16] <Cybergeeek> mojn
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.811465
| 2015-11-29T00:00:00 |
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"Cybergeeek"
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-hr
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[07:30] <Vlado9A3CY> dobro jutro
[09:30] <SilverSpace> dan
[09:36] <Vlado9A3CY> dan i tebi SilverSpace :)
[09:50] <jelly> Mmike: pong. Re:slika, rekao bih, nisam!
[09:51] <SilverSpace> Vlado9A3CY: jesi obisao plac :)
[09:52] <Vlado9A3CY> jos jucer SilverSpace, jos jucer ;)
[09:58] <SilverSpace> eh danas je ljepsi dan :)
[09:59] <SilverSpace> sunce i to :)
[10:26] <dodobas> yutro
[10:30] <SilverSpace> pospanac ::)
[10:34] <dodobas> SilverSpace: u 14h, danas ? jel tak ?
[10:34] <SilverSpace> da
[10:43] <dodobas> uopce mi se ne gleda... mislim da ce biti grozna
[11:02] <SilverSpace> meni je ta staza ok
[11:03] <SilverSpace> jebga nema napetosti jos od prvih utrka mecka ih pomela sve
[11:19] <dodobas> ma nema otkada su se prebacili na razvoj za 2016 ... a to je od 4 trke ;)
[12:26] <Mmike> jelly, rekli su da jesi :D
[12:27] <Mmike> jelly, doduse, ja se nit sebe tamo ne sjecam... :D
[12:27] <Mmike> dodobas, al' babudabu bude zanimljiv
[12:30] <dodobas> Mmike: mozda... idem naci neki stream :)
[12:31] <jelly> Mmike: brijem da sam tad bio _bitno_ mrsaviji
[12:32] <Mmike> jelly, pa ne cini se debeli tamo
[12:32] <Mmike> dodobas, phoenix! :D
[12:32] <dodobas> ma radi meni i vip...
[12:33] <dodobas> i tako ne gledam... slusam kao radio prijenos...
[12:34] <dodobas> a i sky... nema reklama :)
[12:45] <dodobas> nema do Mike ...
[12:49] <dodobas> Mmike: http://henno.info/streams
[12:50] <Mmike> dodobas, to na kodiju gledas
[12:50] <dodobas> nope...
[13:03] <obruT> ja mislio nesto pametno, a ono F1 gay streams :)
[13:46] <SilverSpace> https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/b585b44746654dcd19d35a5f583e2b92.gif
[14:07] <Mmike> sad kad hamliton ode do kraja :)
[14:16] <Mmike> eto ga :)
[14:17] <dodobas> sad ce mu pedei stavit zute gume ...
[14:17] <dodobas> *pederi
[14:17] <dodobas> naravno ...
[14:19] <Mmike> kaj je trebo crvene dobit?
[14:21] <dodobas> pa sto nije... ovako je gotovo... onako bi bar bilo zanimljivo...
[14:21] <dodobas> jer drugo mjesto ce tesko izgubit...
[14:21] <dodobas> uglavnom... pederi :)
[14:22] <dodobas> jer koji su ga K drzali na stazi 5 krugova...
[14:31] <jelly> danas je Dan Republike
[14:31] <jelly> i stari je popio malo
[14:34] <Mmike> manje dosadna utrka
[14:38] <jelly> fetl sa 15 startne na 4. mjesto? Skoro pa mi zao sto ne gledam
[14:43] <Mmike> I, eto...
[14:46] <dodobas> sto rekoh... pederi
[14:46] <dodobas> vjerojatno imaju u ugovoru... ako jedan vozac osvoji titulu, onaj drugi mora pobjediti sve trke do kraja ...
[15:14] <Mmike> BotaniCar, djesi
[15:14] <Mmike> dodobas, mislis? :)
[15:16] <dodobas> a sad cekamo 2017 ...
[15:30] <Mmike> mislis da ce 2016 isto biti losa?
[15:30] <SilverSpace> opet zavjere u hrvata :)
[15:34] <SilverSpace> prespavao start i sve ostalo taman vidjeh ulaz u cilj rajkonena
[15:38] <SilverSpace> http://www.24sata.hr/crna-kronika-news/lovac-se-spotaknuo-puska-je-opalila-i-pogodila-ga-u-glavu-449370
[16:14] <vileni> opa, i links promijenio stranice
[16:19] <SilverSpace> hm nesto ne stima stalno mi trazi da odobrim kolacice
[16:23] <vileni> Mmike: evo komp za tebe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAaw83q-ic
[16:23] <datase> YouTube: Mod Video - Thermaltake P5 - Complete - 0:08:45 - 9986 views - 113 likes / 1 dislikes
[16:25] <SilverSpace> vileni: jel stane bar 50G rama
[16:26] <vileni> SilverSpace: ovisno o maticnoj mozda i 128 :)
[16:31] <SilverSpace> vileni: za ovo trebas imati jos jedno racunalo kak bi upravljao ovim
[16:41] <Mmike> vileni, :)
[16:41] <Mmike> jel' tko kad imao to tekuce hladjenje?
[16:42] <Mmike> jel' to tiho ili ta pumpa brenci?
[16:43] <SilverSpace> ne brenci
[16:44] <SilverSpace> necujes uopce nis tek kad uho stavis na nju
[16:44] <SilverSpace> cuju se ventilatori tj. sum zraka
[17:06] <SilverSpace> danas na dx kupio neke ledice i kazu da salju u 24 sata pa da vidimo
[17:10] <Mmike> jooooooooooooooooooj
[17:10] <Mmike> nemoj, nemoj
[17:11] <Mmike> ja cu si meteo stanicu neku narucit
[17:19] <obruT> narucit ? ja bas radim na svojoj :)
[17:48] <SilverSpace> kaj ce vam meteo stanica
[18:30] <dodobas> SilverSpace: pada je mos metnut negdje :)
[18:32] <SilverSpace> sumljivi su mi njih dvoje
[18:49] <Mmike> dodobas, jel' koristis ti pgbadger?
[18:49] <Mmike> obruT, radis svoju? kak' to mislis?
[18:51] <SilverSpace> sigurno na RPI
[18:52] <SilverSpace> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Internet-Weather-Station/
[18:53] <dodobas> Mmike: ne
[19:30] <Mmike> openerp - napravim dokument 'izvodi', ima 500 stavki
[19:30] <Mmike> izmijenim jednu
[19:31] <Mmike> kliknem save
[19:31] <Mmike> openerp napravi 12k queryja prema postgresu
[19:31] <Mmike> 9k selectova, ostatak UPDATEji
[19:31] <Mmike> :)
[19:31] <Mmike> a od tih 9k selectova, ima ih sveksup oko 30 razlicitih :)
[19:31] <Mmike> vecina od tih 30 se ponovi vise stotina puta
[19:31] <Mmike> ovo je jedan od cescih:
[19:31] <Mmike> mario@BUNTOR /tmp> zgrep 'SELECT account_bank_statement."company_id",account_bank_statement.id FROM "account_bank_statement" WHERE account_bank_statement.id IN (1595) ORDER BY date desc, id desc' izvod-potvrdi.sql.gz | wc -l
[19:31] <Mmike> 1003
[19:32] <SilverSpace> nije tebi lako
[19:40] <SilverSpace> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3008622/linux/amds-radeon-software-crimson-doesnt-live-up-to-the-hype-on-linux.html
[19:58] <dodobas> very nice ... https://c1.goote.ch/c8a05c9a6d4a4929a3fa50e6ebdee0c3.scene/
[20:06] <obruT> Mmike: neke senzore nabavit, neke sam slozit i to spojit na RPi odnosno arduino, ovisno o tome zelim li remotely dohvacati podatke
[20:07] <Mmike> obruT, too much fuss mi je to
[20:07] <Mmike> obruT, sam zelim znat temperaturu detetu u sobi :)
[20:07] <obruT> meni je zabavno :)
[20:08] <Mmike> dodobas, se to mice?
[20:08] <Mmike> obruT, to je skroz ok :)
[20:23] <dodobas> Mmike: mozes pan/zom
[20:30] <SilverSpace> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Naturebytes.jpg
[20:40] <SilverSpace> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8GZr2fyUY0
[20:40] <datase> YouTube: Kodi on the $5 Raspberry Pi Zero - 0:19:16 - 34605 views - 408 likes / 14 dislikes
[22:41] <Mmike> bokte
[22:41] <Mmike> nikak se spojit
[22:41] <Mmike> 23:37 -!- Irssi: Looking up irc.freenode.org
[22:41] <Mmike> 23:37 -!- Irssi: Connecting to irc.freenode.org [38.229.70.22] port 6667
[22:41] <Mmike> 23:39 -!- Irssi: Unable to connect server irc.freenode.org port 6667 [Connection timed out]
[23:58] <nicols> ko kaže da freenode ne radi?
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[01:23] <locodir-user> hidup lagi ke irc ubuntu malaysia ni?
[07:32] <excalibr> mampus dah
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-discuss
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[02:17] <daftykins> nice, just recovered a little old NAS that was doing nothing :)
[04:49] <pauljw> gnite all
[04:52] <SeriouslyLaugh> !bot
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> morning cfhowlett
[10:14] <cfhowlett> greetings lotuspsychje
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> motaka wining again about solutions for his borked system
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> he's on 12.04 and tryed upgrade to 14.04 and got failed upgrade, now cant get greeter to load, cant do recoverymode,previous kernels fail to boot and doesnt want clean install
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> prrrr
[10:17] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, he's screwed then
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> yeah told him he needs to clean install
[10:18] <cfhowlett> wait, he STILL hasn't fixed that 12.04? and STILL doesn't want to do a proper install? back to windows XP for him then :)
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> indeed
lotuspsychje: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hlyu24or7uib64/IMG_20151129_132848.jpg?dl=0
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: he's got 300 previous kernels in his list oO
[10:19] <cfhowlett> sweet christmas!
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:19] <cfhowlett> clearly doesn't believe in spring cleaning, aka PEBKAS error
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you need a w10 theme lol? http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/windows-10-accurate-theme-released-for-almost-all-major-linux-desktops-496831.shtml
[10:21] <cfhowlett> read wha ... oh HELL no!
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> :p:p
[10:21] <cfhowlett> I saw that and said "meh!"
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> he keeps talking and talking and no action
[10:39] <cfhowlett> yeah, I see that.
[10:47] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I've seen his pattern and added to /ignore. He's attention trolling.
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:01] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[12:13] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw
[12:13] <pauljw> hi BluesKaj :)
[12:38] <BluesKaj> Hi cfhowlett
[12:38] <cfhowlett> hidiho BluesKaj
[12:38] <BluesKaj> :-)
[12:42] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta check something
[14:44] <pauljw> brb
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:36] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: howdy \o
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[18:36] <daftykins> cor, 50mph winds down on the island here D:
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> hows you mate
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> yeah we got strong storm also
[18:36] <daftykins> good thanks :D tad windswept though! yourself?
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> fine here tnx
[18:36] <daftykins> just been to scrub up my other bike that i took away to Wales, as it'd been at my parents since
[18:37] <daftykins> i'm being forced to take it back again so my folks can get their motorbikes in and out :>
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:38] <daftykins> oooh i can hardly wait for the week to start, to get all my deliveries ^_^
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> the mobile glass front?
[18:39] <daftykins> yep, plus the SSD, £200 Lenovo laptop and bluray Battlestar Galactica set i snagged in the sales
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> ohhhh
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> wich ssd was it?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> lol you buy dvd's?
[18:39] <daftykins> 240GB SanDisk Plus, for £33 delivered. Low end, but still MLC
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> ah right neat price
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> and goes rocketfast also
[18:40] <daftykins> i own exactly one bluray set right now, this'll be my second - i tend to splash out if it's a series i'd really like to see again
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: gonna run w10 on it?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: check qbittorrent :p
[18:41] <daftykins> oh trust me i have my sources for such things, just didn't fancy it this time
[18:41] <daftykins> ;)
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> or gonna run linux on it?
[18:41] <daftykins> well the cheap Lenovo is going to the guy i got that 27" screen in for, as it's new enough to drive 2560x1440 over HDMI - so he'll run 10 on it probably as he will be using it for architects drawings
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[18:42] <daftykins> i may be able to sell him that SSD to put in it, depends if he'll be willing to cover my time to do it - the machine comes with a 1TB spinner :>
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> 1TB out and in enclosure and ssd in
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> or does the laptop handle double hd?
[18:43] <daftykins> most likely not... but yeah, could get an optical drive bay to put it in
[18:43] <daftykins> or i'm sure i could make use with it in my special enclosure for my xbox otherwise ;)
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> im gonna do that with ssd+ubuntu transforms on existing laptops
[18:44] <daftykins> mmm, good way to keep folks data then
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> plugout their existing mechanical hd and put in sata enclosure
[18:44] <daftykins> i do find that's the most time consuming part of support tasks, just shunting peoples digital lives around before you can work :P
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> hmm that latest 352 nvidia driver seems to cause alot of issues
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> had several users to revert to older driver versions
[18:46] <daftykins> that could be why i don't seem to be able to get anyone's optimus setup working when i suggest it :(
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> the guy i just helped got optimus aswell
[18:47] <daftykins> it can be a right tricky devil :)
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> think it works best with optimus+340 or 346
[18:48] <daftykins> mmm, probably ok when the mobile chip is an 'older' one that's already in 346
[18:48] <daftykins> supported by 346, i mean
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[18:54] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: what happened to the sattelite?
[18:55] <EriC^^> haven't replaced the part yet
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> im gonna watch klitschko vs fury in a bit :p
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> he lost
[18:55] <EriC^^> we have another satellite registration ( the local satellite distributor ) so it's ok
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: nice
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys watching heavyweight boxing
[19:09] <pauljw> bye
[19:09] <daftykins> \o
[19:09] <pauljw> hey daftykins and all
[19:10] <daftykins> hey pauljw! hey EriC^^ :D sorry i fell asleep the other time i said hi :>
[19:10] <EriC^^> :)
[19:10] <pauljw> i've been in and out too
[19:11] <daftykins> might be time to do that whole food thing i'm so fond of!
[19:13] <pauljw> :)
[19:56] <GrizzlyKolsch> Hi everyone - I'm new to ubuntu / linux, but want to learn more about networking and security. Are there any 'projects' you could recommend, so that I could learn using a hands on approach?
[19:56] <daftykins> i got a good background by setting myself the task of setting up a wordpress website from ubuntu server a while back
[19:57] <daftykins> the free course LFS101x on edx.org is also a good primer on Linux aspects
[19:57] <daftykins> perhaps creating two VMs that can file share via samba would also be a good one
[19:57] <GrizzlyKolsch> ah - I was thinking about edx courses. That sounds like a good idea to me.
[19:58] <GrizzlyKolsch> cheers for the tips :)
[23:33] <daftykins> i do so enjoy those users with the periodic updates
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu
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[00:00] <k1l> tachys: the ubuntu install media is a live OS. you can put that onto a usb or a dvd.
[00:00] <AlexQ> OerHeks: But I need another branch of the bundle, with H.264 support for G45 enabled
[00:00] <jasabella> Streusel... do you have xev installed?
[00:00] <jasabella> er, strangeland
[00:00] <daftykins> jackoo: sorry for the delay, try setting an administrator password (write it down!) as this may unlock further options that are currently hidden
[00:00] <k1l> tachys: but you could just connect the laptop to a lan cable, and then come here and we can try to fix that issue
[00:00] <Streusel> uhh no..
[00:00] <tachys> k1l: thanks, I will try that to test if a fresh install would fix the internet problem.
[00:01] <AlexQ> OerHeks: I already have the newest mirror from git, I am just wondering if the files I install with make install won't be overwritten by apt-get when upgrading packages
[00:01] <tachys> k1l: My ubuntu installation is on my desktop (not laptop) and is connected via Ethernet cable to my router.
[00:01] <k1l> tachys: i doubt it. better to get the facts whats going wrong and solve that. no need for reinstalls
[00:01] <AlexQ> OerHeks: Should I just remove these packages after building and installing from source?
[00:01] <jackoo> daftykins: ok i'm going to try
[00:02] <tachys> LambdaComplex: So I ran "systemctl enable [email protected] now" and got "Failed to parse lined 'ow'"
[00:02] <OerHeks> AlexQ, you can pinn them
[00:02] <OerHeks> !pinning
[00:02] <LambdaComplex> tachys: -now
[00:02] <LambdaComplex> not now
[00:02] <tachys> LambdaComplex: sorry, I meant to say that I did use "-now"
[00:02] <LambdaComplex> hm
[00:03] <LambdaComplex> tachys: okay, just try systemctl enable and then do the same thing but with systemctl start
[00:03] <tachys> LambdaComplex: "-now" does not seem to be a valid flag for systemctl, based on the man page.
[00:03] <LambdaComplex> tachys: oh hey, it's --now
[00:03] <LambdaComplex> oops
[00:03] <AlexQ> OerHeks: But how can I pin them when there is no alternative package? I mean, there is no package to prefer - I am not building a package, I am just installing with make install
[00:03] * LambdaComplex is literate, he swears
[00:04] <tachys> LambdaComplex: "systemctl: unrecognized option '--now'"
[00:04] <tachys> Also, "systemctl start" results in "Too few arguments"
[00:04] <LambdaComplex> tachys: systemctl enable [email protected] --now
[00:04] <tachys> LambdaComplex: I'm doing this on my arc partition btw.
[00:04] <k1l> LambdaComplex: tachys #archlinux for arch support, please
[00:04] <tachys> arch*
[00:05] <LambdaComplex> k1l: wait, i got a thing for this
[00:05] <tachys> LambdaComplex: that's the same command I entered, and it doesn't recognize the --now option.
[00:05] <jasabella> stangeland... do you have xev installed?
[00:05] <LambdaComplex> "we do ask you to stay as helpful as possible"
[00:05] <AlexQ> OerHeks: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-vaapi-driver - lists only 1 normal built packages: i965-va-driver. So what if I just remove that?
[00:05] <stangeland> jasabella, i dont know. its ubuntu with xfce
[00:06] <tachys> But really I'd like to debug the ubuntu partition, if there's some way to troubleshoot it from within ubuntu and not require a reinstall, I'd be much obliged for your help :)
[00:06] <k1l> LambdaComplex: i am exhausted of you making a drama everytime. please make sure you read the guidelines and stick to them, thanks
[00:06] <LambdaComplex> tachys: eh, just do enable and start separately. what's wrong with your ubuntu installation?
[00:06] <k1l> !guidelines | LambdaComplex
[00:06] <tachys> LambdaComplex: it doesn't have an internet connection.
[00:07] <k1l> tachys: is that some sort of special network setup?
[00:07] <LambdaComplex> k1l: yeah, that's literally what i just quoted
[00:07] <daftykins> tachys: nobody's helped you yet huh? mount the partitions and check for /etc/issue to find your ubuntu's / partition :)
[00:07] <tachys> It's also in a strange sort-of zombie state where it was originally installed at Ubuntu Server Edition, but then i added ubuntu-desktop because I needed GUI for something.
[00:07] <daftykins> (not sure if you're still on the partition identification step)
[00:08] <jackoo> daftykins: i have nothing more (just a password before entering the bios)
[00:08] <tachys> I'd rather just wipe the ubuntu installation and start over.
[00:08] <SkepticalParrot> KDE Plasma just crashed and I cannot sign out. How do I restart sddm?
[00:08] <daftykins> jackoo: ok, try making sure windows is shutdown properly by pressing windows key + R (that's super+R) and entering "shutdown -s -t 1" ; then boot from powered off - and be sure to use a USB 2.0 port if possible, or just try each.
[00:09] <tachys> daftykins: The problem is that I was using Window's disk management program to wipe the partition, but windows can't figure out which partitions are which.
[00:09] <daftykins> tachys: yeah it won't be able to read them, so use a live session
[00:09] <k1l> tachys: make a live ubuntu usb. you will need that to install anyway
[00:09] <tachys> daftykins: how do I use a live session?
[00:09] <daftykins> as k1l says
[00:09] <tachys> k1l: haha, ok.
[00:09] <k1l> tachys: on that use "gparted" to sort the partitions
[00:10] <AlexQ> OerHeks: It seems to be only that file (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_drv_video.so) and some docs. That package breaks only 1 package: libva-intel-vaapi-driver , which is just a meta package installing the appropriate binary package with the vaapi driver, am I correct?
[00:10] <tachys> Will do. thanks daftykins k1l LambdaComplex
[00:11] <stangeland> hi. i have a lenovo x1 carbon 2nd gen. suddently the mouse buttons on the touchpad stopped working in my ubuntu installation. why?
[00:11] <AlexQ> OerHeks: So is it okay to remove it before building? That way they will just not be re-installed magically when upgrading I guess?
[00:11] <OerHeks> AlexQ, yes, standard.but go ahead wit your git if you think that gives better support, you only need to rebuild with any kernel update i guess.
[00:12] <MACscr> is ubuntu using systemd yet or are their plans to move to it?
[00:12] <k1l> MACscr: its standard since 15.04
[00:12] <bazhang> !systemd | MACscr
[00:13] <SkepticalParrot> How do I restart a service if the desktop crashes?
[00:13] <MACscr> thanks guys
[00:14] <shome2> SkepticalParrot: What service ?
[00:14] <shome2> service servicename restart
[00:14] <MACscr> what do you guys think of systemd timesyncd versus standard ntpd?
[00:15] <AlexQ> OerHeks: Well, it is only video decoding acceleration, so nothing essential. Actually it did wasn't even installed automatically with Ubuntu (vainfo was reporting a problem when trying to open that file), so I had to look that file up and install it manually, but unfortunately it only provides MPEG-2 for my chipset. Well, I think it actually should have been there automatically with libva itself
[00:16] <k1l> SkepticalParrot: systemctl restart ssdm
[00:16] <AlexQ> OerHeks: va-driver-all was removed as well.
[00:16] <LambdaComplex> MACscr: timesyncd seems nice for cron jobs. i haven't really used ntpd aside from the systemd ntpd service for keeping my clock synced
[00:16] <LambdaComplex> wait, i might be getting timesyncd confused with timers
[00:17] <LambdaComplex> i am. forget i said anything :P
[00:17] <MACscr> ha
[00:18] <jackoo> dafykins: I tried it but nothing changed , the liveusb is stil unrecognized.
[00:18] <MACscr> well debian 8.2 uses timesyncd versus ntpd and id rather not have to manage configs for two different types. Seems i can just remove timesyncd and use ntpd instead.
[00:19] <daftykins> or stop using two distros and maintain a consistent environment ;)
[00:20] <MACscr> daftykins: ha. i wish. Unfortunately not everyone else feels the same
[00:20] <daftykins> MACscr: bear in mind if you're talking servers, then 15.xx don't belong on servers in production
[00:20] <MACscr> i prefer ubuntu, but proxmox uses debian and cpanel uses centos. So i have to use at least those 2 or 3
[00:20] <MACscr> daftykins: right, im only at 14.04
[00:20] <daftykins> *nod* presumably 16.04 will be the first systemd LTS
[00:21] <MACscr> yep. not till april for that
[00:27] <daftykins> Azi: i take it you're going to wipe Windows entirely?
[00:27] <jzeolla> Any of you guys ever try to preseed a Ubuntu RAID setup that uses Intel RSTe as a pseudo-controller?
[00:27] <daftykins> this seems pretty simple: https://sturmflut.github.io/linux/ubuntu/2015/01/21/installing-ubuntu-15.04-on-baytrail-tablets/
[00:28] <Azi> Hello people! Is there anyone here who could help me install Ubuntu 15.10 on a laptop that boots 32-bit efi exclusively? It's the Asus X205TA, specifications can be found here: https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ASUS_EeeBook_X205TA/specifications/ I know that there are tutorials online but not for my particular needs and as someone who is relatively new to Linux I am having trouble applying the info I can find online to my situation.
[00:29] <KageNoOni> Anyone know how to restart cinnamon w/o the menu or panel?
[00:29] <KageNoOni> It disappeared after my computer locked from being afk.
[00:29] <Azi> Ctrl + Alt + 1 to get tty1, sign in and issue the poweroff/reboot command?
[00:29] <Azi> Should work
[00:30] <daftykins> that's not what was asked ;)
[00:30] <KageNoOni> That's rebooting the whole computer. I can do that if I have to, but honestly, it's easier to sign out and back in (I can hit Super to make the menu appear)
[00:30] <k1l> KageNoOni: you can restart the xserver but this will kill all running programs
[00:30] <jackoo> Dafykins: thanks for trying to help, i will try later.
[00:30] <KageNoOni> I just need cinnamon itself restarted.
[00:30] <k1l> KageNoOni: sudo lightdm restart
[00:30] <KageNoOni> And I do have access to the command line as well as the menu, if needed.
[00:30] <Azi> For Gnome it would be sudo restart gdm, something like that should be available for cinnamon too
[00:31] <daftykins> Azi: so did you prepare a USB flash drive with 15.10 64-bit desktop on? and are you keeping Windows as i asked earlier?
[00:32] <Exagone313> Hi, I want to redirect an input port (from internet) to a local port (this is to use a port under 1025 without root). I tried this iptables command ( iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING --src 0/0 --dst 127.0.0.1 -p tcp --dport 25 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 5025 ), but it does not work. What do I do? Thanks for your help.
[00:32] <KageNoOni> Normally I can right-click on the panel, select Troubleshoot, then Restart Cinnamon.
[00:32] <Exagone313> I tried to scan this port with nmap and it appears filtered
[00:33] <daftykins> !pm
[00:34] <cheetahw26_> apparently I'm doing a stupid idiot tonight... I've been trying to port a solution from 12 to 14 and overwrote the group file, then rebooted... the current (overwritten) group file doesn't have the same login user in the sudo group and I never set a root passwd... how can I get to root?
[00:35] <Exagone313> cheetahw26_: chroot
[00:35] <daftykins> Azi: as above, keep the chat in here please.
[00:36] <cheetahw26_> I've used chroot to jail users and to compile a custom linux distro within another, but I don't know how that could help me right now
[00:36] <ldsh> Hi, I try to run ubuntu-gnome on a M2 NVMe ssd formated in F2FS. I'm folowing this tutorial: http://www.richud.com/wiki/Ubuntu_1504_Vivid_Install_To_F2FS_Filesystem
[00:37] <Azi> daftykins: I am sorry I do not know how to pm someone, /msg <name> does not work
[00:37] <daftykins> _don't_ PM.
[00:37] <daftykins> i said don't!
[00:37] <Exagone313> cheetahw26_: if you have an access to the drive, you can mount it, then edit a file or chroot
[00:38] <Azi> Oh, don't. I am sorry it's late.
[00:38] <Exagone313> with chroot you will be root
[00:38] <ldsh> I made some adaptations (like the first "update-initramfs -u" was not successful but after installing f2fs-tools before copying from the ext4 to the F2FS, it worked.
[00:38] <k1l> ldsh: thats not an ssd but a nand flash orientated filesystem
[00:38] <cheetahw26_> eh... it's like an Intel ComputeStick... not sure if I can just boot to another distro and then mount/edit... (that would be easy/awesome)
[00:39] <cheetahw26_> in such case, I don't think I'd have to chroot, right? I could just mount the drive and modify the group file...
[00:39] <ldsh> My problem now is that it stop at startup with "A job is running for Wait for...en to Quit (time/ no limit)
[00:39] <daftykins> cheetahw26_: boot recovery mode
[00:40] <ldsh> k1l: yes, friendly to flash file system
[00:40] <cheetahw26_> that might work, if there's an option... how, I can't remember off the top of my head?
[00:40] <k1l> ldsh: ext4 works fine on ssds
[00:40] <daftykins> !recovery
[00:41] <ldsh> k1l, in deed, this is why the tutorial first install on EXT4.
[00:42] <Azi> daftykins: So what I did when I was actually getting Ubuntu to boot and all was I installed a seperate boot loader which I downloaded from the internet (bootia32.efi) on the ESP (/efi/boot/). When I did that the installation failed when the installer was executing grub-install
[00:43] <daftykins> Azi: yeah because you're supposed to ignore the supplied and use another instead as per all the guides available; sounds like you might want to read them a lot closer
[00:44] <cheetahw26_> trying now... been holding shift, but did see ubuntu text... now stuck at black screen with cursor... eh
[00:44] <cheetahw26_> I don't know if this stick has a recover mode built-in...
[00:44] <daftykins> cheetahw26_: did you say this is not ubuntu but some custom hacked up thing of your own creation?
[00:44] <Azi> daftykins: I did download the one the guide(s) was suggesting, that is the one that I installed on the ESP
[00:44] <cheetahw26_> it's intel, but not a regular computer...
[00:44] <daftykins> i know what the compute sticks are
[00:44] <daftykins> Azi: yes but that's only to boot the flash drive, you have to install 32-bit GRUB on the actual installation...
[00:45] <ldsh> I have this message <<F2FS-fs (nvme0n1p4): Unrecognized mount option "errors=remount-ro" or missing value >> that leads to a [FAILED]
[00:45] <cheetahw26_> nope... I did not say that... this is definitely ubuntu 14, just porting over some custom software... I'm just an idiot and manually modified the /etc/group file incorrectly, then rebooted... now I don't have any valid users in the sudo group
[00:45] <daftykins> ldsh: remove that from /etc/fstab
[00:46] <ldsh> Does it meens that F2FS does not suport this mounting option and I should simply remove it from my fstab, or that there is an other failure before and that it is not even able to remount
[00:47] <daftykins> ldsh: 'unrecognised' says 'remove me' to me.
[00:47] <ldsh> daftykins, Ok, at worst I can still format the F2FS partition and copy again from the EXT4 (in case it would damage the file system)
[00:47] <cheetahw26_> and I never set a root password, so I can't use su -
[00:47] <ldsh> daftykins, Ok ;)
[00:47] <cheetahw26_> eh... woe is me
[00:47] <daftykins> ldsh: i genuinely think it's a big waste of time trying to use this file system.
[00:47] <daftykins> cheetahw26_: do those things not support booting a live session?
[00:47] <ldsh> daftykins, Oh, and I just saw he removed it in the tutorial, sorry
[00:48] <cheetahw26_> they might... and I hope so, I've already done a bunch of work, hate to lose it all...
[00:48] <ldsh> daftykins, Yes, as I understood there is no huge advantage on ssd to use it, this is more for the experiment ;)
[00:48] <cheetahw26_> try to find a bootable usb live stick and try that I suppose
[00:51] <clorisu> Does anybody have any clue why my skype proxxy isnt working? I'm using one from ttp://www.gatherproxy.com/proxylist/country/?c=Australia but when I skype resolve I can still see my original IP address?
[00:52] <ldsh> daftykins, now it seems to boot correctly (I replaced the error=remount" by default
[00:53] <ldsh> Time to lookat the graphic card now
[00:53] <daftykins> ldsh: i'm not surprised
[00:55] <ldsh> But strangely the windows on the other ssd does not seem to be detected.
[00:57] <daftykins> 'windows' ?
[00:58] <ldsh> daftykins, yes, sometimes It is still useful to have one for some applications. (it's W10 edu)
[01:00] <freakyy> is there any way i can change my ubuntu-gnome profile picture or anyhting displayed at the gdm login screen?
[01:04] <ldsh> freakyy, There should be
[01:04] <daftykins> ldsh: yeah your sentence just didn't make much sense is all :)
[01:04] <daftykins> are you talking about for dual boot?
[01:05] <ldsh> freakyy, does this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/310151/how-to-change-account-profile-picture
[01:05] <ldsh> daftykins, yes, dual boot (sorry having been unclear)
[01:05] <freakyy> ldsh: thanks i know now ;D
[01:05] <daftykins> "sudo update-grub" perhaps, although if one installation is EFI and the other is not, then you'll be in trouble
[01:07] <ldsh> daftykins, already made the update (needed to find the f2fs partition), I would have expect both OS (W10 and Ubuntu gnome) to use EFI.
[01:09] <daftykins> well that's only going to happen if you booted and installed as EFI
[01:11] <ldsh> daftykins, seems my ubuntu is Legacy boot and not EFI
[01:12] <daftykins> !efi | ldsh here you can find a method to convert it
[01:12] <ldsh> daftykins, no /sys/firmware/efi
[01:13] <daftykins> have a read of the above
[01:13] <ldsh> daftykins, thanks, you helped me troubleshot that really quick ;)
[01:15] <daftykins> that's how we roll
[01:19] <CaptainPants_> asd
[01:20] <tachys> daftykins: So I tried the liveCD and the internet does work on that.
[01:20] <KageNoOni> Who was it that messaged me earlier to try to help me fix my desktop background issue in Cinnamon?
[01:20] <CaptainPants_> leave .
[01:20] <KageNoOni> This was a couple hours ago.
[01:20] <CaptainPants_> leave Ubuntu
[01:20] <zermanno> matplotlib
[01:20] <CaptainPants_> das
[01:20] <CaptainPants_> asd
[01:21] <Freakwent> My Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS has a weird mysql problem with apt, if anyone knows a way around this, I'd be happy! "The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-server-5.5 : Breaks: mysql-server (< 5.5.46-0ubuntu0.12.04.2) but 5.5.40-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed"
[01:22] <Freakwent> already purged and done apt-get -f install, hasn't helped.
[01:22] <CaptainPants_> asd
[01:23] <CaptainPants_> adssa
[01:23] <CaptainPants_> leave
[01:23] <Freakwent> System is essentially useless now.
[01:23] <CaptainPants_> ctcp
[01:24] <daftykins> tachys: sorry i don't remember what your issue was
[01:24] <tachys> daftykins: Internet was not working on the ubuntu installation.
[01:24] <tachys> Still isn't working.
[01:24] <daftykins> ah, can't help right now, having fun with my own experiments :)
[01:24] <Freakwent> Am I in the right place?
[01:24] <CaptainPants_> dsa
[01:24] <tachys> daftykins: bah! OK
[01:24] <KageNoOni> You're in the right place, but I've no idea how to help with that.
[01:24] <daftykins> Freakwent: bear in mind 12.04.4 is out of date, i think it's up to 12.04.5 - likely you need a dist-upgrade first, then maybe your packages are being ruined by PPAs.
[01:25] <Freakwent> no ppas
[01:25] <asibo2> whs
[01:26] <Freakwent> same error blocks dist-upgrade
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Freakwent: Maybe already have a version of mysql-server installed ( apt-cache policy mysql-serve ) ? Remove the one you do not want .
[01:27] <KageNoOni> I was having an issue where, opening Nautilus, would cause my desktop background to change, and I couldn't change it back. I'm using Cinnamon on Ubuntu 15.10. In case anyone else comes in with the same issue, the solution was a single line in the terminal: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false
[01:27] <ldsh> daftykins, Ok, so the fault seems to be from my bios that boots the usb in legacy mode instead of EFI
[01:28] <KageNoOni> Apparently Nautilus and Nemo were both, simultaneously, trying to control my desktop, and flipping that switch gets Nautilus to stop, and lets Nemo continue handling it.
[01:28] <jpmh> what package do I need to get ifconfig? Generally how do I discover what package a command is in?
[01:28] <Freakwent> Hey, simple.... Thanks!
[01:28] <KageNoOni> I'm not the only person to have had this issue, as I found at least one askubuntu question regarding the exact same issue.
[01:29] <SchrodingersScat> !info apt-file | jpmh
[01:30] <SchrodingersScat> !info net-tools | jpmh
[01:30] <daftykins> ldsh: well, more that you didn't make it boot EFI before installing
[01:31] <jpmh> ubottu, ideally I do not want the source, I want to install ifconfig, so I tried apt-get source ifconfig and it said no source available. Really I do not need source
[01:32] <bazhang> jpmh, thats a bot
[01:33] <jpmh> bazhang, I know, I just thought that someone might see my response and respond to me
[01:33] <hipitihop> I have an existign 14.04.3 LTS (originally a mythbuntu install) so this runs XFCE, is it possible to update this to unity ?
[01:35] <Bashing-om> hipitihop: Not an update, just install the ubuntu DE ' sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ' . Drags in all the bells and whistles . Not to easy to back out of once done .
[01:36] <hipitihop> Bashing-om, ok thanks
[01:38] <Bashing-om> hipitihop: In the login dialog box, click the icon in upper right to choose which DE to start .
[01:39] <hipitihop> Bashing-om, is that sticky ? iow, normally when the box boots, it should not ask for login and fire streight into mythtv fornt-end or kodi (which is where I'm heading)
[01:41] <Bashing-om> hipitihop: once selected, that option will be default until re-selected .
[01:41] <hipitihop> cool thanks
[01:52] <ldsh> hipitihop, And if you have automatic login, you can still unlog just to change and it will also become the new default upon reboot.
[02:00] <clorisu> Does anybody have any clue why my skype proxxy isnt working? I'm using one from ttp://www.gatherproxy.com/proxylist/country/?c=Australia but when I skype resolve I can still see my original IP address?
[02:01] <hipitihop> ldsh, thanks
[02:03] <hipitihop> clorisu, not sure about your proxy but why do you need to use one for Skype ?
[02:03] <clorisu> hipitihop: to prevent my skype ip from being resolved
[02:03] <clorisu> highdivr: for example see http://cstress.net/skype-resolver/#first
[02:04] <clorisu> hipitihop: *
[02:05] <Demannu> Trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04 onto a local box, just have a wireless keyboard right now but the installer isn't accepting input from it. Works fine in the menu selection, just once it asks for a language, no response. Anything I can do?
[02:05] <mo78> hit n run question: when I use the live ubuntu wirless keyboard & mouse works and internet works, After instal no mouse, keyboard or interent any ideas? im on live now.
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info proxychains | clorisu
[02:07] <clorisu> SchrodingersScat: I already tried proxychains, they wouldn't work
[02:07] <clorisu> unfortunately
[02:08] <Bashing-om> mo78: Once installed, update/upgrade .. see if the drivers are picked up and installed .
[02:09] <mo78> allowed it to update as installed, issue is no way to input post install, only have wireless keyboard/mouse.
[02:10] <N1sM> greetings friends :)
[02:10] <N1sM> wow ip logging is turned on :(
[02:11] <Bashing-om> mo78: Better support for wireless after install .. need to do that from a wired connection . Then maybe " Additional Drivers " to be effective .
[02:11] <comradzilla> .
[02:12] <mo78> kk, so need to hunt a wired kb and try update?
[02:12] <N1sM> why not sit the box side by side and install synergy on it?
[02:12] <Bashing-om> mo78: Yes, IMO the better course of action .
[02:12] <N1sM> share kb/mouse with another machine
[02:13] <N1sM> if you have access to another machine that is
[02:14] <mo78> cheers, see if i can hunt an old wired one some where lol. N1sM, no other machine for me. if you were directing to me. :)
[02:14] <N1sM> mo78, understood... no synergy for you then...
[02:14] <flyn4x4web> Hello room, I was wondering if anyone has any experience updating 15.04 on arm-hf? the reason i ask is that apt-get update and upgrade have problems connecing to the servers. Does anyone know what file contains the serverlist?
[02:14] <N1sM> it sounds as if the drivers for the mouse aren't being loaded
[02:15] <daftykins> flyn4x4web: #ubuntu-arm
[02:15] <daftykins> flyn4x4web: yes, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:15] <N1sM> Greetings Room, wondering if anyone has a method of installing GMA 4500 series drivers for Ubuntu-Gnome 15.10?
[02:15] <mo78> i know its so strange, while im on this live ubuntu all works perfectly, same one is used to install and no mouse or kb.
[02:15] <flyn4x4web> Thanks daffykins, Im in north america and its trying to dl from uk
[02:16] <daftykins> N1sM: they're already part of the kernel, there's nothing to be done
[02:16] <mo78> im runniing ubuntu from usb and installed from same usb
[02:16] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: Home backup and installation of 14.04 went successfully.
[02:17] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: Outstanding ... much improved, no ?
[02:17] <daftykins> mo78: did you install with updates?
[02:17] <N1sM> daftykins: It seem's that I have very poor performance. maybe i shouldn't have been so optimistic about installing on older core 2 processor
[02:18] <daftykins> N1sM: what're the rest of the specs? something like lubuntu or xubuntu would be better on there, not full ubuntu - Unity is too demanding
[02:18] <mo78> yes I allowed updates to instal during installation
[02:18] <daftykins> mo78: then that's something to try without :)
[02:18] <N1sM> daftykins: It's mostly the graphics bit, however i believe its partly due to the amount of system ram.
[02:18] <daftykins> what are we talking, 2GB?
[02:18] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: Yes! Everything seems really fast now.
[02:18] <[Relic]> any idea where I can see the path settings for things like PYTHON_LIBRARY ? Trying to figure out why this program can't seem them
[02:18] <N1sM> 2.2ghz core duo 1M cache and 3gb ddr2 667
[02:18] <mo78> kk, try basic instal/ then try updates post instal. ty will give it a shot now.
[02:19] <mo78> but one more Q before I try
[02:19] <cfhowlett> N1sM, you can run ubuntu on that, but you'll almost certainly get better performance from lubuntu as it's optimized for low spec and legacy hardware
[02:19] <mo78> if the basic instal dont do it can I select drivers during instal?
[02:19] <daftykins> N1sM: that's plenty, i'd just try xubuntu instead
[02:20] <daftykins> mo78: what drivers
[02:20] <Bashing-om> Charcoalfire: Pleased it has all worked out . Worth all the effort .
[02:20] <N1sM> daftykins: I am currently running Ubuntu Gnome
[02:20] <mo78> for the kb / mouse
[02:20] <daftykins> mo78: i don't think that's how it works.
[02:20] <Charcoalfire> Bashing-om: :)
[02:21] <mo78> dam lol. kk im out gonna try basic none update install, if it works illl report back. peace all
[02:21] <sorin-mihai> anyone knows how "safe" would it be to install linux-image-virtual-lts-wily in a 14.04 server?
[02:22] <daftykins> sorin-mihai: i don't see any point at all to run the wily kernel in trusty.
[02:22] <N1sM> wow Lbuntu looks horrid :( guess its finally time to dump my laptop for a new one...
[02:22] <cfhowlett> sorin-mihai, I can think of lots of reasons NOT to run the wily kernel in trusty
[02:22] <sorin-mihai> is just that virtualmin isn't supporting wily, so I have to stick with trusty for a while...
[02:23] <N1sM> daftykins: lbuntu looks like windows 3.1, is that normal?
[02:23] <daftykins> N1sM: xubuntu is much nicer.
[02:23] <N1sM> daftykins: does xbuntu support cairo-dock and various other things?
[02:23] <daftykins> sorin-mihai: i'm not familiar with that, but newer kernels are more relevant for up to date bleeding edge desktop or laptop hardware, not servers.
[02:24] <daftykins> N1sM: i don't know
[02:24] <amazoniantoad> Will we ever be able to install ubuntu touch on laptops?
[02:24] <kingplusplus> I am using Ubuntu in virtualbox... after doing resize from host (Mac) i still get "This computer has only 190.6 MB disk space remaining" error
[02:24] <amazoniantoad> Some of us use touch screens
[02:25] <amazoniantoad> kingplusplus: only practical solution is to make it your main install
[02:25] <amazoniantoad> :D
[02:25] <cfhowlett> kingplusplus, might be time for spring cleaning: http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr#clean
[02:25] <amazoniantoad> Spring cleaning is always fun
[02:26] <daftykins> amazoniantoad: not the point, imo.
[02:26] <daftykins> kingplusplus: yeah you need to increase the partition size...
[02:26] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: I know...I'm just bein salty...I just found out I wont be getting the ubuntu touch for christmas...
[02:26] <amazoniantoad> So so salty...
[02:26] <amazoniantoad> So salty
[02:26] <daftykins> amazoniantoad: ok well please take it to #ubuntu-touch so we don't have to suffer thanks
[02:27] <kingplusplus> daftykins how do i do that please
[02:27] <amazoniantoad> daftykins: I will spread my salt as far as the horizon
[02:27] <daftykins> kingplusplus: did you use LVM?
[02:27] <daftykins> amazoniantoad: no, silence now thanks.
[02:27] <kingplusplus> daftykins please whats LVM? Live Virtual Machine?
[02:28] <daftykins> no
[02:28] <daftykins> kingplusplus: is the VM booted?
[02:28] <kingplusplus> daftykins yes it is
[02:29] <daftykins> kingplusplus: open a terminal and run "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[02:31] <kingplusplus> datfykins, i have ran it... its still thinking i guess
[02:31] <kingplusplus> to show output
[02:31] <daftykins> try "sudo parted -l" on its' own, or open the gparted program
[02:33] <kingplusplus> daftykins am installing gparted... where do i find result of previous command?
[02:34] <daftykins> it would print it in the terminal
[02:34] <kingplusplus> daftykins well, gparted opened
[02:34] <daftykins> so do you see some unused space on the disk?
[02:36] <kingplusplus> daftykins i see unallocated 17GB
[02:36] <daftykins> can you share a screenshot on imgur.com
[02:38] <Traced> So uhm.. is anyone willing to possibly help a fellow out Dual Booting Windows 10 and Ubuntu under UEFI? I've run around to multiple places today searching for an answer and have wound up reinstalling windows etc at least three times.
[02:38] <cfhowlett> Traced, see ##windows for windows installation support.
[02:38] <kingplusplus> daftykins http://imgur.com/a6UaLhb
[02:38] <Traced> Some places say start from scratch with Ubuntu, others say start from windows
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Traced, windows first. always.
[02:39] <Traced> Right. Disregarding the other information now.
[02:40] <Traced> I've Dual Booted Windows 7 and older Ubuntu before but I had a friend helping then as well.
[02:40] <cfhowlett> Traced, win7 and win10 are worlds apart due to uefi ... but you already know that.
[02:40] <Traced> I have a generic Win 10 pro USB and the Ubuntu 15 USB ready to try again as soon as Windows finishes "Getting Ready" -.-
[02:41] <Traced> cfhowlett: Oh, definitely.. XD
[02:42] <daftykins> kingplusplus: bit messy, you're going to have to boot a live session in the VM ideally, (as in the ubuntu desktop ISO) then delete the swap and extended partitions (sda5 and sda2) then resize sda1, recreate a swap partition, edit the /etc/fstab file on sda1 and then boot back into it.
[02:43] <Traced> Would you be willig to walk me through setting the dual boot up cfhowlett? I guess that's a lot to ask.. but I'm about to pull my hair out. :x
[02:43] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Traced
[02:43] <Traced> Derp
[02:44] <Traced> I've read someplace that EasyBCD and windows with EUFI are bad and "outdated"..?
[02:44] <Traced> UEFI*
[02:44] <cfhowlett> Traced, gl/sad to say, I decided not to dualboot as I use ubuntu 98% of the time. I installed virtualbox to ubuntu and put win7 in a virtualbox. see !wfm
[02:45] <daftykins> Traced: yes don't touch easyBCD
[02:46] <Traced> I'm not a total Linux newbie but as far as setting up a proper Dual Boot (especially with Windows' weird UEFI load.. I'm simply lost
[02:46] <Traced> daftykins: Righto
[02:46] <daftykins> it's pretty simple, install 10 with some space left over, or resize the disk... then boot ubuntu as EFI and install beside
[02:46] <kingplusplus> daftykins thanks, is this the only option? My pain is that i deleted the iso and i have limited bandwidth 10gig monthly which is almost out :)
[02:46] <cfhowlett> Traced, best practice: get windows sorted out first. fully installed, updated all that. THEN set up buntu.
[02:47] <daftykins> kingplusplus: pretty much
[02:47] <Traced> I saw also that I should disable Fast Startup for Windows until after GRUB2 is set up proper
[02:47] <Traced> True?
[02:48] <kingplusplus> daftykins i wouldn't loose all the installed updates, and files right? it took me sometime to get this os setup
[02:48] <daftykins> kingplusplus: no
[02:48] <kingplusplus> ok thanks
[02:48] <daftykins> have some faith in the advice given :P
[02:48] <cfhowlett> kingplusplus, but you DO have your stuff backed up anyway ... right?
[02:49] <daftykins> certainly wouldn't be hard with a VM :>
[02:49] <kingplusplus> cfhowlett note really anything that matters just the cost of re-installing things in terms of paid bandwidth :)
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Traced: "fast boot" is a Windows Hibernation. such that the hard drive is "in use" . Then ubuntu can not access it .
[02:50] <kingplusplus> daftykins, how about taking a snapshop?
[02:51] <cfhowlett> kingplusplus, understood. Humbly suggest that as you are a buntu user, you should always have an install USB with you as a best practice. I keep my silver Kingston USB quite stylishly mounted on a lanyard around my neck. Cuz you never know ...
[02:51] <kingplusplus> daftykins i mean snapshot.... then moving it to a new guest instance and deleting the one with low disk something
[02:52] <stuartyeates> I'm on 14.04 and looking for a solution to ripping DVDs to mp4s. successfully creating isos from the DVDs but can't convert them. on previous versions I crafted a ffmpeg commandline that did what I wanted, but that's not working for me now. suggestions?
[02:52] <Traced> About to reboot into Linux..
[02:53] <Traced> Handbrake for ripping works well
[02:53] <cfhowlett> stuartyeates, ffmpeg in 14.04? avconv is the default conversion tool
[02:53] <Traced> ffmpeg is fuu ._.
[02:53] <Traced> fun*
[02:54] <stuartyeates> cfhowlett: thanks. it may be that the commandname is all I need
[02:54] <cfhowlett> stuartyeates, happy2help! fwiw: ffmpeg and libav-tools have kissed and made up. ffmpeg will return to ubuntu in 16.04. yay!
[02:56] <daftykins> kingplusplus: i'd copy the full thing before attempting the resize personally
[02:56] <Traced> What will Ubuntu's naming convention after Z is reached become?
[02:56] <Traced> o-o
[02:56] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: could ffmpeg/libav change be because ffmpeg is in both debian's unstable & testing branches? ;)
[02:56] <cfhowlett> Traced, zesty zulu and then we don't know what's next
[02:57] <Traced> End of everything ;-;
[02:57] <stuartyeates> nah, after z we shift to CJK characters...
[02:57] <Traced> I'm waiting for these updates to finish.. -.-
[02:57] <cfhowlett> zykotick9, as I recall, the problems was personality and leadership incompatibilities on the ffmpeg side. seemingly resolved now ...
[02:58] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: to me personally, libav vs ffmpeg never made much difference... to others it did ;) i was just making light of the downstream nature of ubuntu there... sorry.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> no harm no foul!
[03:23] <wfreeman> I have just installed kubuntu 15.10 and the system boots to a black desktop with a mouse cursor; no KDE panels, desktop, etc. are visible. How can I fix this? I can run commands with alt-f2 but that's it.
[03:27] <zykotick9> wfreeman: <one comment> alt+f2 to run commands is NOT built into Xorg itself... that sounds like gnome or kde (i'm NOT familiar with kde so don't know if alt+f2 is also run there). it wouldn't do anything on in straight Xorg or my wm... good luck!
[03:28] <zykotick9> s/on in/on a/
[03:32] <finetundra> Anyone around?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> !ask | finetundra
[03:33] <finetundra> Could someone help me with x11 forwarding?
[03:33] <finetundra> cfhowlett: yeah, I know
[03:33] <finetundra> Silly mistake
[03:34] <cfhowlett> ;)
[03:34] <TheReaperVirus> So I am having this issue with the font Inconsolata-Dz. Its been
[03:34] <TheReaperVirus> patched for powerline but no matter the size of the font, none of the
[03:34] <TheReaperVirus> symbols are showing up in vim-airline's bar. Anyone know how to fix
[03:34] <TheReaperVirus> this.?
[03:36] <daftykins> finetundra: help how? "ssh -x username@host"
[03:36] <finetundra> daftykins: say I connected over putty, then what?
[03:36] <LonelyDanbo> I'm using dual monitors for the first time. I repositioned the 2nd monitor in the settings to be on the left side of the 1st monitor, but it's still making me get to it by moving the mouse off the right side of the 1st monitor to get to it. can I fix that?
[03:37] <daftykins> finetundra: you can't, because PuTTY doesn't have any X libs to draw anything on the Windows host... you have to use something like xming
[03:37] <Lutero> I'm gonna get denicked in a momentbut whatevs. I was here a short while ago about dualbooting W10/Ubuntu15. Continuing..
[03:37] <finetundra> daftykins: my bad, I do have xming
[03:38] <Lutero> I've installed it alongside Windows and I'm looking at efibootmgr, and I do not see Ubuntu on the list :x
[03:38] <LonelyDanbo> "drag it to rearrange it's placement" doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.
[03:38] <daftykins> Lutero: just enter your EFI and try changing the boot device to Ubuntu / the name of the disk instead of 'Windows Boot Manager'
[03:39] <LonelyDanbo> AHAH! I had to select which one was primary before it would let me rearrange them!
[03:39] <LonelyDanbo> aw crap. i hit apply but it put everything in the secondary display because that was the left-most display. lame.
[03:40] <Lutero> Here's what it looks like http://pastebin.com/PWxKLBv1
[03:40] <LonelyDanbo> .... WTF? I guess "primary display" isn't where it puts my taskbar and such. Can I fix THAT?
[03:41] <LonelyDanbo> I mean... I guess it's kinda nice to have less clutter on my main display... the clock's on the right side of my left display...
[03:41] <Lutero> daftykins: Right. I'll try that then
[03:52] <LonelyDanbo> aw crap. my applications are all launching on the secondary display because it's on the left. I hope this won't be a problem. I noticed when I changed my game settings from OpenGL to D3D, it would totally crap the bed when I'd try to resize the window. I'd have to close the window because I couldn't see to exit the program.
[03:53] <LonelyDanbo> oh this is super annoying. resizing windows moves it from primary display to secondary as well. WTF???
[03:53] <LonelyDanbo> hm. nope. just that once.
[03:53] <daftykins> even initialism form swearing is frowned upon here.
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !wtf | LonelyDanbo
[03:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quick tip: alt+f7 will switch your cursor into a hand and place it on top of the first window. Click and hold (even if you cannot see) to drag it onto your primary display.
[03:54] <LonelyDanbo> initialism?
[03:54] <daftykins> series of letters that stand for something.
[03:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> Coming in at the tail end of your issue so I'm not sure if this helps, but it's a nice tip regardless.
[03:54] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, imagine you are speaking with your dear ole granny - in church - and moderate your language.
[03:55] <LonelyDanbo> I'm agnostic. I'd probably just do what I did and use crap instead of what I originally intended.
[03:55] <LonelyDanbo> but... right... rules. very important rules.
[03:55] <cfhowlett> LonelyDanbo, don't. the language guidelines apply to all - even you.
[03:56] <alazyworkaholic> Hello, I can no longer login to my account through the GUI. The screen flashes to a console for a moment, then returns to the login screen.
[03:57] <daftykins> check your /home for files not owned by you, by logging in at the TTY and checking with "ls -al ~/"
[03:57] <LonelyDanbo> so is there a way to make my primary display primary even though it's on the right side of my secondary display?
[03:57] <daftykins> remind me, you use some non-standard DE/WM right, LonelyDanbo ?
[03:57] <LonelyDanbo> I don't know what that is.
[03:58] <daftykins> nevermind then.
[04:00] <alazyworkaholic> daftykins: tks, console login works. Some files in my home directory are owned by root, e.g. .bash_aliases; .bash_aliases; .bashrc-anaconda3.bak; .dbus; .gvfs; .rpmdb All normal?
[04:01] <almaster> anyone using ubuntu kylin?
[04:01] <cfhowlett> !kylin | almaster
[04:01] <alazyworkaholic> I looked through the forums already and saw suggestions to remove ~/.Xauthority, did that, no good. Created a new user, changes nothing.
[04:02] <cfhowlett> almaster, typically find those users using the weixin/wechat channel
[04:02] <almaster> ok thanks, I'd find out it
[04:02] <Sonderblade> alazyworkaholic: you can look in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log if anything looks fishy
[04:03] <cfhowlett> almaster, http://www.ubuntukylin.com/en_comunity/show.php?lang=en&id=187
[04:03] <almaster> thanks a lot, <cfhowlett>
[04:04] <daftykins> alazyworkaholic: sounds like you tried to 'sudo startx' at some point - very bad! run this: "sudo chown -R username:username /home/username/" then restart and try GUI login again
[04:06] <alazyworkaholic> daftykins: ok, I tried startx from the console as it was a suggestion in a forum post (without sudo), and it failed. In /var/log/Xorg.1.log I saw ¨NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the system´s kernel log for additional error messages and consult the NVIDIA README for details¨
[04:06] <alazyworkaholic> where is the kernel log?
[04:06] <daftykins> no point doing that, did you run the above already? what card do you have?
[04:07] <alazyworkaholic> NVIDIA
[04:07] <alazyworkaholic> never problematic until now
[04:09] <sa_> JOIN channel #qtcodes
[04:09] <alazyworkaholic> Ran sudo chown -R alan:alan /home/alan. Rebooted. No effect
[04:11] <daftykins> alazyworkaholic: yeah which card specifically though? "lspci"
[04:12] <Cytus> boop
[04:14] <alazyworkaholic> If it matters, this message appears while booting (before login screen): ¨[FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules. See systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service´for details¨ but typing that line doesn´t seem to identify which module is causing the problem. Card is NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti according to lspci
[04:16] <daftykins> ah ok
[04:16] <daftykins> alazyworkaholic: which ubuntu version? 15.10?
[04:17] <alazyworkaholic> Sonderblade: looking at /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log... seems to go normally up until I see ¨User alan authorized¨, then is see Sending SIGTERM, and it kind of looks like it´s restarting
[04:17] <daftykins> alazyworkaholic: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* && sudo apt-get clean" then "sudo apt install nvidia-352" if your system is online from CLI
[04:19] <Opcode90_> I can't really find a room to ask this question in, but I'm on a Digital Ocean Ubunto 12.04 server and i managed to install psyBnc, but I'm trying to hide the ip address with one of those sentences, I see where vhost,vanity host can be entered but my question is can just anything be put in there or does it have to be some registered source or something, do i need to pay for a vhost name any
[04:19] <Opcode90_> help would be greatly appreciated.
[04:20] <daftykins> "sentences" = a domain, such as opcode90s.amazing.bnc.com ?
[04:20] <Opcode90_> yes
[04:20] <Opcode90_> exactly
[04:20] <alazyworkaholic> daftykins: 15.10
[04:20] <daftykins> Opcode90_: no idea, find a bnc channel :P
[04:21] <daftykins> !alis | Opcode90_
[04:21] <daftykins> alazyworkaholic: ok yeah follow the above commands
[04:21] <Sonderblade> alazyworkaholic: what DE are you tring to login to?
[04:21] <alazyworkaholic> daftykins: just checking - correct that it´s sudo apt install rather than sudo apt-get install? (never used it that way)
[04:21] <Opcode90_> i've looked for bnc channels only like 3 people in each of them
[04:21] <Opcode90_> but thanks anyway
[04:21] <alazyworkaholic> Sonderblade: standard ubuntu unity, didn´t do anything special to it.
[04:22] <daftykins> alazyworkaholic: yep it's new and improved
[04:22] <Sonderblade> alazyworkaholic: if you havent tested already, create a brand new user and login with that
[04:23] <Sonderblade> alazyworkaholic: then install kde and try with that. if kde works, the problem is gnome-shell/compiz something..
[04:23] <daftykins> Sonderblade: that's a horrible suggestion
[04:23] <daftykins> throwing another DE on will ruin most peoples setups
[04:24] <Sonderblade> why would it?
[04:24] <daftykins> replacing things they share, pretty common.
[04:24] <alazyworkaholic> daftykins: i purged & reinstalled nvidia as you said. No change.
[04:24] <alazyworkaholic> rebooted too
[04:25] <daftykins> and still no go with guest sessions / alternate users?
[04:25] <Sonderblade> daftykins: shrug, multiple de:s work for me
[04:26] <alazyworkaholic> daftykins: Yes, tried that. Exactly the same behaviour.
[04:26] <daftykins> Sonderblade: depends how they're installed.
[04:26] <daftykins> alazyworkaholic: probably time to reinstall some things, dunno without digging through logs more
[04:26] <Sonderblade> daftykins: and i've had several issues in the past with gnome-shell/unity not getting past the display manager, while kde was working fine
[04:27] <daftykins> that's nice, but still not good advice imo.
[04:27] <Sonderblade> ok. i disagree
[04:28] <alazyworkaholic> Noticed someting in the lightdm log: CRITICAL: session_get_login1_session_id: assertion ´session != NULL´ failed¨
[04:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> alazyworkaholic just to confirm, you're shown the greeter right? like it asks for your password?
[04:30] <alazyworkaholic> SeriouslyLaugh: Yes, the login screen with graphical background and a list of users to choose from, + guest. All very vanilla ubuntu setup.
[04:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> you could try dropping into a terminal and moving your .config and .cache files temporarily
[04:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> mv ~/.config ~/.config.BAK
[04:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> mv ~/.cache ~/.cache.BAK
[04:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> then go back to the greeter (ctrl+alt+f7) and log in
[04:32] <daftykins> SeriouslyLaugh: that's irrelevant since guest sessions test even more than that
[04:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2189114&page=3&p=12857831#post12857831 though this seems to be xcfe specific...i am uncertain if it'll work
[04:33] <daftykins> since nothing is ever kept for a guest, it's like a new user every time
[04:35] <alazyworkaholic> What logs should I review? /var/log/ kern.log? syslog? upstart? Xorg.0 or 1.log?
[04:35] <alazyworkaholic> SeriouslyLaugh: tried the config/cache trick. No good.
[04:35] <daftykins> the .Xsessionerrors
[04:36] <pyios> why my crontab element does not work ?
[04:41] <logglog> Hi ppl is there a way to upload the output of terminal to the internet, for example if i type sudo apt-get install vlc that it puts the output online
[04:41] <m1r> `
[04:42] <isReKT2000> logglog, pastebinit
[04:42] <daftykins> logglog: pipe it to pastebinit, after installing pastebinit
[04:42] <SeriouslyLaugh> !pastebin
[04:42] <daftykins> or pipe it to "nc termbin.com 9999"
[04:42] <logglog> to pipe means to use | ?
[04:42] <logglog> i am newer to linux
[04:42] <daftykins> yes, pipe ;)
[04:42] <SeriouslyLaugh> another cool service: http://ix.io/
[04:42] <logglog> ok thanks everyone :D
[04:43] <alazyworkaholic> xsessionerrors: http://pastebin.com/K2N9vSAZ
[04:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> alazyworkaholic which version are you on? apologies if someone already asked you this
[04:44] <alazyworkaholic> 15.10
[04:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok thanks
[04:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> this catches my eye: 'upstart-event-bridge respawning too fast'
[04:45] <alazyworkaholic> Sorry, got a call - must go. Thank you all for your help so far
[04:45] <logglog> so i just type in terminal sudo apt-get install vlc | pastebinit?
[04:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> google lands me here, but this forum post has 32 pages and is for 14.04 -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218100
[04:46] <SeriouslyLaugh> correction 4 pages, 32 replies*
[04:46] <SeriouslyLaugh> peruse that perhaps
[04:46] <logglog> One more question with what command can i show what version of ubuntu i am using and what type of arhitecture my pc is
[04:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> !version | logglog
[04:50] <SeriouslyLaugh> logglog to get the syntax and usage, type man pastebinit into terminal
[04:52] <SeriouslyLaugh> or read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit
[04:53] <daftykins> logglog: uname -a will show the kernel info and thus architecture in use
[04:53] <mekhami> do any of you have a command line email client you like?
[04:54] <Lutero> Back again. Linux and Windows finally work normall aside from Windows not booting from GRUB2. I can enter BIOS and select Window boot mgr to be first and it'll load Windows perfectly fine
[04:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> !ot | mekhami
[04:54] <Lutero> Any suggestions? The error is something to do with invalid image
[04:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> sounds like you may need to tinker with your grub settings
[04:55] <Lutero> I took another look at the efibootmgr util.. let me paste the info for that
[04:56] <Lutero> http://pastebin.com/kr2PE8ym is this fine?
[04:56] <daftykins> it's irrelevant
[04:57] <daftykins> just shows you now have GRUB boot first
[04:58] <Lutero> Right... I'm unsure what exactly I need to tinker with though XD
[04:59] <daftykins> so what happens when you pick the Windows entry?
[05:00] <Lutero> It'll show a rather long error about wrong image or something. I'm not sure if I can even show you unless I cn access logs for grub
[05:00] <Excl> Hello
[05:00] <daftykins> try running "sudo update-grub"
[05:00] <Excl> Anyone up to help me with an Ubuntu Mystery?
[05:01] <Lutero> But again, switching the load order from Ubuntu 1st to WBM, I can then boot W10
[05:01] <Guest29444> me??
[05:01] <Guest29444> disconet
[05:01] <Lutero> daftykins: it added a boot menu entry.. I guess this is probably the fix?
[05:02] <Excl> huh? Guest29444
[05:02] <daftykins> well it's an attempt
[05:02] <Excl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/703113/periodic-lag-while-gaming
[05:02] <Guest29444> i need help guy
[05:02] <Excl> any ideas why on that stack question guys?
[05:02] <Lutero> Here this is daftykins http://pastebin.com/sqPcyyd1
[05:03] <Lutero> :X
[05:03] <daftykins> Lutero: it's probably not made any change but worth trying again
[05:04] <Lutero> Alright. Away I go
[05:04] <daftykins> Guest29444: ask a question
[05:04] <Guest29444> what is xchat
[05:04] <Guest29444> ??
[05:04] <Guest29444> sa
[05:04] <Guest29444> da
[05:04] <Guest29444> sd
[05:04] <Guest29444> as
[05:04] <daftykins> stop it.
[05:04] <Excl> What bout me :( lol I'm experiencing lagspikes when gaming
[05:04] <daftykins> Excl: your post says GT120, did you mean 210?
[05:05] <SeriouslyLaugh> Excl you're asking a lot from a really underpowered machine...
[05:05] <Excl> daftykins I mean 120 lol
[05:05] <arallen> Guest29444, an IRC client
[05:05] <daftykins> nonsense, my desktop is still a core 2 quad
[05:05] <Excl> SeriouslyLaugh oh yeah, that I know...but it's held up fine back on Windows, don't see why it would have lagspikes on Ubuntu
[05:06] <daftykins> you got asked if you were using those games through wine?
[05:06] <Excl> Nope, running through steam
[05:06] <Excl> I am trying out this online game through PlayOnLinux called Perfect World...
[05:07] <Excl> seeing how that goes in a bit
[05:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> PlayOnLinux is a WINE frontend, isn't it?
[05:07] <daftykins> right but you're running steam through wine?
[05:07] <Excl> yep SeriouslyLaugh
[05:07] <daftykins> because ETS2 does not have a native Linux version
[05:07] <Excl> Uhh no, I'm using Steam's Linux client
[05:07] <Excl> well they have a linux beta daftykins
[05:08] <daftykins> not on steam?
[05:08] <Excl> at first I thought it was the game, but I tried playing some others, it has the same result
[05:08] <Excl> yeah on Steam?
[05:08] <SeriouslyLaugh> i wonder if it may be worth looking into installing proprietary drivers for that GPU
[05:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> if you have not yet done so
[05:09] <Excl> Check again daftykins, it has it for SteamOS+Linux
[05:09] <Excl> Already did SeriouslyLaugh, I had issues when trying elementary os, and moved to Ubuntu
[05:09] <daftykins> didn't see anything on the product page, but it doesn't matter - i don't consider game issues worthy of my time
[05:09] <Excl> Already on proprietary drivers I'm afraid
[05:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> hm yeah I've reached the extent of my comfort zone on this issue -- maybe ask over in the linux gaming channel Excl
[05:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> i think it is #gamingonlinux
[05:11] <Nlh1901> it supot gnacktrack
[05:11] <Excl> yeah on v340.96 proprietary SeriouslyLaugh
[05:11] <daftykins> it is in fact elementary how much a waste of time running elementary is :)
[05:11] <Pinkamena_D> I have been trying to figure out the best way to save a few monitor configurations. I have a laptop with two docks. One I use at work, with one ext monitor and the laptop monitor itself, to the left. The other is at home where I don't use the laptop monitor, but I have two external.
[05:11] <Nlh1901> i can install linux on my playbook
[05:11] <Excl> true daftykins, but it is a pretty OS
[05:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> i disagree, and use it as a daily driver. but that's neither here nor there.
[05:12] <Pinkamena_D> I don't know if it is possible to save config based on connected monitors. IT seems online that some people say this is what is supposed to be, but it does not always work, it seems to be based on the way the docking is connected.
[05:12] <daftykins> Excl: you're beginning to make me think you still use it :P
[05:13] <Nlh1901> hey guy i need help plzzzz
[05:13] <Pinkamena_D> Also one big issue I have is that if I have the laptop monitor off, and I sleep, and then remove the laptop from the dock, if I turn it back on usually it stays black and I have to force poweroff.
[05:13] <asdopas> (Lubuntu 15.04) I can't install SMplayer. I get broken dependencies, which I've listed here: https://bpaste.net/raw/dac5cd23e3b6
[05:13] <SeriouslyLaugh> Nlh1901 I don't understand your question -- did you have an issue installing?
[05:13] <Pinkamena_D> anyway, does anyone have any monitor config software they would recommend?
[05:13] <asdopas> Do I have the wrong kernel version?
[05:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> !lubuntu | asdopas
[05:15] <asdopas> That channel is too slow, and besides, Lubuntu uses the Ubuntu kernel base. I thought I'd get a faster answer here, especially since I don't think LXDE is the issue.
[05:15] <Nlh1901> can i install linux on my blayberry playbook?, thanks
[05:15] <SeriouslyLaugh> folks here aren't too keen on helping with any distribution that isn't pure Ubuntu, asdopas
[05:15] <asdopas> But I don't get it. This is an issue with APT dependencies. It would be the same if it was pure Ubuntu.
[05:16] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah i agree. but it helps to keep the channel clutter down. there are approx 2k users here at any given time.
[05:16] <asdopas> At least tell me why I'm getting the "but...is to be installed"
[05:16] <asdopas> I don't want to wait for hours on #lubuntu
[05:17] <daftykins> SeriouslyLaugh: you're wrong, flavours are supported just fine
[05:17] <daftykins> !flavours
[05:17] <Excl> I abandoned it for Ubuntu 3 weeks ago lol daftykins
[05:17] <SeriouslyLaugh> daftykins then can we update the !lubuntu factoid?
[05:17] <daftykins> no, because the specific channels still exist, but here is also fine.
[05:19] <SeriouslyLaugh> ...ok
[05:20] <asdopas> For some reason, the added strings after the version number are throwing APT off. libgcc1 1:5.1~rc1-0ubuntu1.1 should satisfy libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1)
[05:20] <asdopas> I think
[05:20] <SeriouslyLaugh> i've seen people ask for help on each of those flavors and told to ask in their respecitve channels, so i'm just a little confused on what the rules are
[05:21] <asdopas> Are you really going to die on this hill SeriouslyLaugh? I'm not asking anything super complex
[05:21] <SeriouslyLaugh> haha nope, I just like helping and I feel bad when I give someone the wrong advice
[05:22] <asdopas> daftykins do you have any suggestions? I remember you from when you helped me with the rtl8192cu (Belkin USB dongle) and NVIDIA ancient video card kernel module mix up.
[05:22] <jaydro> hey can someone answer my question as to weather i should replace ubuntu 14.04.1 with ubuntu mate or INSTAL MATE INTO 14.04.1
[05:23] <e66> I am using a custom apt-server. I want if the apt-server downgrades a package the client should also do it. How can I do that?
[05:24] <daftykins> SeriouslyLaugh: if you do, then why do you keep trying to give people stuff you've just googled that often doesn't even apply?
[05:24] <daftykins> asdopas: i suspect you're getting offered an smplayer or package deps from some form of PPA that's ruining things
[05:24] <jaydro> Does anybody have ubuntu knowledge to give me
[05:24] <daftykins> jaydro: this is a support channel, not an experimental memory transfer lab unfortunately
[05:25] <jaydro> should i replace 14.04 lts with mate or just install it onto it
[05:25] <e66> So I have a package p with version 3. p-3 in server. Local pc is using p-3. Then the devs upload p-2 to apt-server. Now how can I install p-2 without mentioning the version name? Dont want to mention version name because devs can upload any version anytime.
[05:26] <jaydro> heyy
[05:26] <SeriouslyLaugh> daftykins no one here is getting paid, mate. we're all trying to help. relax.
[05:27] <daftykins> yeah i've been here for years helping :) i know that
[05:27] <daftykins> i'm also perfectly relaxed, i just find it annoying when you give bad advice off google results
[05:28] <asdopas> daftykins: I tried --remove on the SMplayer PPAs I had, but it didn't work
[05:28] <asdopas> Still getting the unmet dependencies error
[05:28] <daftykins> !ppapurge
[05:28] <daftykins> asdopas: share what "apt-cache policy smplayer" reports
[05:29] <asdopas> Wait, I remember this...I can use apt-cache policy smplayer pastebinit
[05:29] <asdopas> | pastebinit, sorry
[05:29] <daftykins> sure can
[05:29] <asdopas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13554589/
[05:30] <uio> Hi - any ideas for how to use ubuntu on machines that have password protected BIOS ? No live-usb will work then... I am trying virtual-box on a usb, but cannot get a proper full screen... any other altenatives ?
[05:30] <daftykins> !info smplayer
[05:30] <daftykins> !info smplayer vivid
[05:31] <daftykins> ok so that's the 15.04 default archive package, seems alright
[05:31] <Blue1> uio: usually you can take the motherboard battery out, let it sit over night, that should reset the bios.
[05:31] <daftykins> asdopas: now try the same for one of the deps it was trying to get that's newer
[05:31] <Pinkamena_D> When I try to enable a third monitor in ubuntu I get a pop up on the screen which is "invisible" (things won't render in it) I would guess it has some error message that I can't see.
[05:31] <daftykins> !info libqtcore4 vivid
[05:32] <daftykins> that seems normal
[05:32] <Blue1> Pinkamena_D: what kind of card. I have a tiny bit of experience with 3 monitors -- a la windows and easy worship.
[05:32] <asdopas> So apt-cache policy libgcc1?
[05:32] <asdopas> Or any of them?
[05:33] <Pinkamena_D> its intel something 3000
[05:33] <Pinkamena_D> a laptop card
[05:33] <Pinkamena_D> the full line in ubuntu is : 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[05:34] <Blue1> Pinkamena_D: lspci | grep VGA will tell you what it is. I have never seen a labtop that could do dual graphics, let alone 3.
[05:34] <Pinkamena_D> it has two monitor outputs, the last output is the laptop screen itself
[05:34] <Blue1> Pinkamena_D: let me look that up.
[05:35] <daftykins> Blue1: it's pretty common as it goes
[05:35] <asdopas> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13554624/
[05:35] <daftykins> asdopas: yip i've got no idea why those are incompatible then
[05:35] <daftykins> asdopas: try installing the deps manually, then smplayer afterwards
[05:36] <Pinkamena_D> here is the error anyway: http://pasteboard.co/2uuHnAUq.png
[05:36] <Pinkamena_D> the part which is orange is just like a rendering dead zone, it turned orange after taking the screenshot
[05:36] <uio> Blue1: Ah - this is public computer and don't think they'd like that !
[05:37] <Blue1> Pinkamena_D: you do have the driver for that installed yes?
[05:37] <Blue1> uio: :-(
[05:37] <asdopas> daftykins: Yeah, about that..."libgcc1 is already the newest version."
[05:37] <Pinkamena_D> for the intel card? no
[05:37] <Pinkamena_D> (I mean, the linux driver, but not a third party one)
[05:37] <Blue1> Pinkamena_D: this may/may not help: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/13815/Intel-Graphics-Drivers-for-Linux-
[05:38] <Blue1> Pinkamena_D: it looks like that may need the intel driver -- it's worth a try.....
[05:38] <daftykins> asdopas: mmm gonna need some brighter folks then i think
[05:38] <Pinkamena_D> hmm
[05:38] <daftykins> Blue1: NO!
[05:38] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: do not do the above
[05:38] <daftykins> never, ever install anything after the fact for intel graphics.
[05:38] <Pinkamena_D> woah, ok
[05:38] <daftykins> it will make a mess of your system and is a complete waste of time
[05:39] <daftykins> as long as your install is up to date that's the best you can really do
[05:39] <Blue1> daftykins: good to know. I have had to install drivers for ati and they are a pain.
[05:39] <Pinkamena_D> those sneaky people over at intel! grr
[05:40] <daftykins> heh
[05:40] <daftykins> yeah AMD and nvidia require / or at least can use proprietary drivers added after, but it's not really the approach for intel
[05:40] <daftykins> i mean sometimes you can get better support with newer kernels...
[05:40] <daftykins> but sandybridge is pretty old
[05:40] <daftykins> i should know, i'm typing from one
[05:41] <Pinkamena_D> but yeah, I had three monitors working a loooong time ago, but something has happened in the middle and it stopped. I only use two monitors actually, but I want the third active because if the laptop screen it not running, then if I wake the computer after undocking, the screen never comes on at all.
[05:43] <Pinkamena_D> while asking the question a new error came up from the display config. a pop up box comes which says "Failed to apply configuration: %s" - Looks like someone forgot to provide the actual error message to print/printf? \
[05:43] <Pinkamena_D> However the error looks like it is generic, no search results look like my situation exactly...
[05:43] <hirak> interesting
[05:43] <Juggie> hey guys... maybe it would be a good idea to take 100mbit mirrors off the mirror list, or at least off the list of those the main web page keeps automatically directing you to
[05:43] <Juggie> tried 2-3 times kept getting shit downloads when just downloading the normal way, until i realized it kept picking a 100mbit mirror :(
[05:44] <Juggie> switched to a better canada mirror and all is well
[05:44] <hirak> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER hirak whcruahadeso
[05:44] <Canon> hello
[05:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> remove the space before /msg hirak -- and choose a different password ;)
[05:45] <daftykins> the above is a verify link, not a password.
[05:45] <daftykins> Juggie: no idea what you mean by that, but nobody here is in charge of mirrors - try #ubuntu-mirrors
[05:45] <Juggie> daftykins, just 100mbit mirrors are too slow at this point :)
[05:46] <Juggie> one user can saturate that :(
[05:46] <asdopas> I did some more digging, daftykins, here's what I found...
[05:46] <asdopas> "libqt4-dbus : Depends: libqtdbus4 (= 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6) but 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 is to be installed"
[05:46] <Juggie> but the main site was automatically selecting it for me.
[05:46] <asdopas> apt-show-versions libqtdbus4 gives me...
[05:46] <asdopas> libqtdbus4:amd64/vivid-security 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1 uptodate
[05:46] <asdopas> For some reason, it wants ~ubuntu6 and not ~ubuntu6.1
[05:47] <daftykins> Juggie: so you think because you'd get 10MB/sec download off one, that it's somehow slow?
[05:47] <Canon> anyone know the package that contains minicom
[05:47] <daftykins> apt-cache search minicom
[05:50] <Juggie> daftykins, its not slow if im the only downloader
[05:50] <Juggie> but i kept getting 200kb/s
[05:50] <Juggie> changed mirrors, downloaded at 15mb/s
[05:50] <Juggie> big difference
[05:51] <Juggie> and imo 100mbit would get saturated way too easily
[05:51] <Juggie> given the small list of canadian mirrors
[05:51] <Juggie> hence why i debate the purpose of listing it :)
[05:52] <tryit> Hello?
[05:53] <tryit> Anyone on that has experienced problems with Ubuntu running from an SSD ?
[05:54] <daftykins> Juggie: it is if it can rate limit per user... so i think too many assumptions are being made
[05:54] <daftykins> Juggie: oh well, talking about it in the wrong channel won't get anywhere as i say
[05:55] <daftykins> tryit: sure
[05:55] <Juggie> daftykins, np... i made comment in -mirrors
[05:55] <tryit> I have 15.10 installed on a 240GB SSD and after using it ok for a month or so it now fails boot
[05:56] <tryit> BUT
[05:56] <tryit> when I boot 14.04 LTS it mounts ok and is fully accessible
[05:57] <daftykins> tryit: err, the two versions on the same SSD, or?
[05:57] <tryit> no ... 14.04 is on a sata 320GB spindle ... sdb1 ... ssd is sda1
[05:58] <Canon> next question is I have a lvm that is a external HD that i cant mount
[05:58] <LonelyDanbo> why doesn't lm-sensors detect all my sensors?
[05:58] <LonelyDanbo> I have one for my video card and CPU, but it can't find them.
[05:59] <tryit> grub2 set it all up and it worked fine for about 2 months ... then all pssst 15.10 just failed out
[06:00] <daftykins> Canon: that doesn't make sense
[06:00] <daftykins> try and rephrase
[06:00] <tryit> gives attempt to read write outside hd(0)
[06:00] <tryit> or something close to taht
[06:02] <Canon> external HD thats a lvm theat when i try to mount it tells me the it cant be mounted
[06:03] <daftykins> Canon: you know you need to look for the logical volume name, you can't mount the /dev/sdx# partition number that's reported as being LVM?
[06:03] <daftykins> "sudo blkid" should help
[06:04] <Canon> its /dev/sda3 when i do mount -o -ro /dev/sda3 /media/mount/ it fails
[06:05] <Canon> error is mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[06:05] <daftykins> like i just said, you _CAN'T_ pick /dev/sda3 to mount
[06:05] <daftykins> due to LVM
[06:05] <daftykins> !lvm
[06:07] <tryit> daftykins: any guesses on ssd ?
[06:09] <tryit> gotta wrap for now ... ciao all
[06:35] <linocisco> hi all
[06:36] <linocisco> i dont remember the ip address of the device in the network. but I know it is in the network, 192.168.1.0/24. how to find it?
[06:37] <Dat> can an old version of ubuntu be installed over a newer version
[06:37] <Dat> ?
[06:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> linocisco ifconfig in terminal
[06:38] <linocisco> SeriouslyLaugh, are you kidding? no way
[06:42] <Anthony-J8433000> hi
[06:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> hi
[06:43] <linocisco> i dont remember the ip address of the device in the network. but I know it is in the network, 192.168.1.0/24. how to find it?
[06:44] <linocisco> i dont remember the ip address of the device in the network. but I know it is in the network, 192.168.1.0/24. how to find it?
[06:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> linocisco do you mean the machine you are currently on, or another device that is connected to your network?
[06:45] <linocisco> SeriouslyLaugh, it is another device like switch or ATA
[06:55] <Dat> maybe i'll have to do a fresh install damn
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> Dat: whats going on?
[07:00] <Sonderblade> anyone know how to get video thumbnails to work in kubuntu 15.10? they used to work in 14.04 but not anymore..
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Sonderblade: maybe the #kubuntu guys know?
[07:03] <Sprocks> does anyone know how i would go about connecting my Ubuntu server to a PPTP server?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> Sprocks: ask in #ubuntu-server they might know
[07:04] <Sprocks> lotuspsychje: i did, i just thought i would ask here in case someone here knew but they weren't in #ubuntu-server
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> Sprocks: sure np
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> Sprocks: perhaps the ##networking guys might also know
[07:06] <Sprocks> lotuspsychje: i hadn't thought about joining there but it wouldnt hurt to check it out :) thanks
[07:21] <linocisco> i dont remember the ip address of the device in the network. but I know it is in the network, 192.168.1.0/24. how to find it?
[07:22] <Dat> linocisco: maybe some sort of packet / traffic capture?
[07:22] <Dat> tcpdump/wireshark something like that maybe
[07:23] <Sprocks> linocisco: have you tried nmap?
[07:23] <linocisco> Sprocks, not yet.
[07:24] <refgter> Sprocks: that will cause problems
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !info etherape | linocisco
[07:27] <refgter> linocisco: yep try that
[07:27] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, thanks
[07:29] <refgter> Sprocks why you pm me vulgar stuff about linocisco
[07:29] <Sprocks> refgter: why you gotta lie?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> please dont do this here
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[07:39] <ali_> hi
[07:40] <ali__> i have installed ubuntu 14.04 dualboot with windows10
[07:40] <ali__> when i shutdown windows10 and boot ubuntu
[07:40] <ali__> i cant access my windows files
[07:41] <ali__> i get the error unable to access ...
[07:41] <ali__> can anybody help me?
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> ali_: did you try /mnt or /media?
[07:42] <Abe> sorry ali I don't have a dualboot partition. if I did I would probably able to help you. let me google for you
[07:44] <Abe> ali__: here, but looks pretty complicated http://www.wikihow.com/Access-Windows-Files-in-Ubuntu
[07:50] <ali_> it says windows is hibernated
[07:50] <ali_> but i didnt
[07:50] <ali_> :|
[07:50] <Alk40> Hmm
[07:51] <Alk40> testing the color
[07:52] <Alk40> Hello out there
[07:56] <Bitcrusher> Hey Guys. Im new here
[07:57] <rypervenche> Bitcrusher: Welcome^^
[07:57] <Alk40> Yo
[07:58] <Alk40> I'm shocked Ubuntu is slow usually it's chit chat like crazy
[07:58] <rypervenche> Probably the holiday weekend and the time.
[07:58] <Sprocks> people must have stuff going on Alk40
[07:59] <Alk40> Probs but meh
[07:59] <rogo> Hi. How can I set my VGA 1 at 1920x1080 when next code doesn't work any more for my 1920x1080 display: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1920x1080 ??
[07:59] <Alk40> :)
[08:01] <heypaleblue> Hey guys hope everyone is ahving a good night!
[08:01] <Alk40> Hmm so it worked and now it doesn't rogo?
[08:02] <rogo> @Alk40: yeah. I disconnected a second screen to watch again TV. I can solve it co connect it back, but I prefer a handy solution.
[08:02] <rogo> *co -> to*
[08:04] <Alk40> So it works but you just want to be able to connect and disconnect at will right
[08:05] <heypaleblue> Can anyone recommened a good book that convers linux in depth? Something similar to "How Linux Works, 2nd Edtition"?
[08:05] <heypaleblue> and maybe a good python book?
[08:06] <Alk40> For python I would say anything O'Reilly
[08:07] <rogo> @Alk40 yes.
[08:08] <Alk40> @rogo to be honest I haven't messed vga in a while but for me it was automated out of the box, let me check real quick I use to use this program with it
[08:08] <heypaleblue> @Alk40 yeah They're working on a "Head First Python" Book and I'm all about that. I just wonder about something good for linux that explains it from the kernel up
[08:08] <rogo> http://www.wepaste.com/ss/
[08:09] <Alk40> If you wanna learn Linux from the ground up try building your own, you'll learn all you need to know truuuusssttt
[08:10] <heypaleblue> Building my own distro?
[08:10] <heypaleblue> huhwuh!?
[08:11] <Alk40> @heypaleblue yeah I'll shoot you a link hang on
[08:15] <Alk40> Hey ro
[08:15] <Alk40> Try to edit the values on
[08:15] <Alk40> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:16] <Alk40> Set the size of the display in the xorg.conf to what you want see if that works
[08:17] <Alk40> @rogo I think the problem is your switching between different sizes and sometime it works and sometimes it doesn't
[08:18] <Alk40> @heypaleblue http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
[08:20] <Alk40> Zzzzzz
[08:20] <Alk40> Don't leave people
[08:21] <Alk40> Hahahaha
[08:21] <Alk40> I didn't get to help rogo :(
[08:23] <jwtiyar> i cant do partition my HDD gives this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13555658/
[08:25] <MrCeeIII> can anyone direct me to installing skype for ubunto 14.10
[08:25] <Alk40> What Ubuntu version do you have
[08:26] <jwtiyar> Alk40, me?
[08:26] <Alk40> @MrCeelll
[08:27] <Alk40> Sorry I got mixed up @jwtiyar
[08:27] <jwtiyar> Alk40, ok
[08:29] <MrCeeIII> 14.04
[08:29] <tachibana> hi
[08:30] <Alk40> @jwtijar how fast is your computer? That kind of error is usually but not always hardware related
[08:31] <jwtiyar> Alk40, yesterday i formatted all my 1TB hard and i made root , home ,swap partition , then while installing ubuntu give a error that installation is faild
[08:31] <Alk40> @MrCeelll have you tried software center? Your version should be supported
[08:32] <jwtiyar> Alk40, now its not booting and iam on live USB now , gparted shows all hard drive unlocated
[08:32] <denbeiren_> hi all,.. i'm running a pc from a livecd to backup the (windows) userfiles
[08:32] <denbeiren_> i let it run overnight, the files where copying
[08:33] <denbeiren_> now i wake up to a frozen system
[08:33] <denbeiren_> any ideas on how to revive it ? :-)
[08:35] <jwtiyar> Alk40, and do not let me create new partition table http://postimg.org/image/7s1qx9huf/ as shown in this pic\
[08:35] <tachibana> ouch
[08:35] <Alk40> @jwtiyar are they mounted or can you mount them?
[08:36] <jwtiyar> Alk40, its very strange i created all these partition yesterday now shows all of them unlocated as u can see in above pic i posted
[08:37] <Alk40> @denbeiren that's a hard one, I don't know where to begin
[08:37] <jwtiyar> Alk40,there is nothing to mount
[08:38] <denbeiren_> Alk40: seems like it's dozed off, but i don't know how to wake it up
[08:39] <Alk40> @jwtiyar run the following command in the terminal to see if your HD is recognized
[08:39] <Alk40> sudo lshw -C disk
[08:40] <jwtiyar> Alk40, this is output http://paste.ubuntu.com/13555757/
[08:41] <jwtiyar> Alk40, first one is my Live USB
[08:43] <Alk40> @denbeiren_ should have booted with acpi=off at this point it's not looking good :(
[08:44] <denbeiren> k
[08:44] <denbeiren> i'll reboot
[08:44] <denbeiren> thx
[08:44] <Alk40> @jwtiyar ok well it read and identifies it, I was afraid it was not going to recognize it ok next step
[08:45] <jwtiyar> Alk40, but what happened to my previous partitions ? all deleted?
[08:47] <Alk40> @jwtiyar not sure but it could be d number of things from wrong port being plugged in to loose cables
[08:48] <jwtiyar> Alk40, what can i do now? its not letting me create partition also
[08:50] <Alk40> @jwtiyar can you check the smart status on the HD?
[08:50] <jwtiyar> Alk40, how?
[08:51] <Alk40> Using disk utility sorry I forgot to mention it
[08:52] <jwtiyar> Alk40, there is no Disk utility
[08:53] <Alk40> That's weird what version are you using?
[08:53] <jwtiyar> Alk40, 15.10
[08:53] <phill123> hi, is it possible to run a command through bash, but fake no X11? I have a program I'm running that runs with no GUI if X11 doesn't exist, and I want that behavior when there is X11
[08:55] <Alk40> Try disks
[08:55] <Alk40> They change the name and location but it usually comes with it to check your HD
[08:56] <jwtiyar> Alk40, shows all my created partition
[08:56] <Alk40> Check if your HD is healthy
[08:57] <jwtiyar> Alk40, gives error while self test
[08:57] <Alk40> Oh that doesn't sound good
[08:58] <jwtiyar> Alk40, wha =t can i do ? format it again?
[08:59] <Alk40> Can you screenshot the error
[09:01] <jwtiyar> Alk40, http://postimg.org/image/cc90ulh23/
[09:01] <CitizenNine> Join ##COTW
[09:05] <Alk40> Jwtiyar well it might be your HD doesn't support it but do you think your HD is not connected right?
[09:05] <SDr> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JquGn7hL
[09:06] <Alk40> SDr what's wrong with your java?
[09:06] <jwtiyar> Alk40, i dont know but before was ok and every thing was working one day OS didnt boot and i puted another hard to my laptop , yeseterday i puted back it
[09:07] <Carlos0611> i have vsftpd installed. defaults to /home/user on connection. i want to access the /etc/www folder instead. how can this be done?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> Carlos0611: did you try the #vsftpd channel?
[09:08] <Alk40> I think that's the issue jwtiyar, it's either failing or not connected right, your original error comes up when there is a hard ward problem
[09:08] <jwtiyar> Alk40, so when booted to my previous Ubuntu i got some error so i wanted to re format all
[09:09] <Alk40> Hardware*
[09:09] <Alk40> How old is your HD?
[09:09] <jwtiyar> Alk40, may be 3 or 4 years
[09:10] <Alk40> I hope I'm wrong but your HD might be failing, have you dropped it or anything of that nature?
[09:11] <jwtiyar> Alk40, no as i said one day suddenly didnt boot my ubunru and my windows
[09:12] <jwtiyar> Alk40, u r right the problem with the hard
[09:12] <jwtiyar> Alk40, i will change it if i cant fix it
[09:19] <finexbeer> hi
[09:19] <puckz> Hello
[09:19] <finexbeer> i cant belyv that i m alive
[09:20] <finexbeer> i daid 34 yers a go an i cam back a live
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> !ot | finetundra_
[09:22] <puckz> What?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> puckz: do you have an ubuntu question?
[09:43] <motaka2> While starting ubuntu 12.04 after seeing the grub os selection page , I see the mouse pointer for a secons and then I see a black screen. I tried to load by editing the grub with nomodeset by pressing ctrl+e and then then changing it and then pressing ctrl+x
[09:43] <motaka2> but not only nothiing changed but also after the restart I see nomodeset is removed from the grub, the investigations show that the hard drive is not failing and there is no hardware issue
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: you still messing on that issue<?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: why dont you just install 14.04.3?
[09:44] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I dont want to reinstall the softwares once again. I also dont have a hard drive to backup things
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: did you try booting a previous kernel yet?
[09:45] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I dont know how to do that
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: you know howto enter grub right?
[09:46] <Dreaman> motaka2 esc and old all kernel in boot
[09:46] <Dreaman> and use one
[09:46] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: is the the page shooing each time at startup ?
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: normally grub should not show every boot, but probably yes
[09:47] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[09:47] <Dreaman> System: Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.3.0-040300-generic x86_64 (64 bit) motaka2 onstall 4.3
[09:47] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I should choose previous linux versions ?
[09:47] <Dreaman> install
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: try yes, to get in your system again
[09:48] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: try yes?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: try to boot a previous kernel, yes
[09:49] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: HOW?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: enter grub and load a previous kernel
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> !grub | motaka2 read it
[09:50] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I dont know how to enter grub, and I dont know how to do other things
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: hold shift to enter grub
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: you just said you did nomodeset, so you did enter grub before
[09:51] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I am in grub
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: try what Dreaman suggested
[09:52] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: Please tell me step by step what I should do
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: in your grub you see a list, ubuntu,ubuntu(recoverymode),previous kernel
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: then choose an older kernel to boot and enter
[09:54] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: there are previous linux versions but not previous kernel
[09:55] <haskell_> Is there a way to freeze ubuntu at a certain time? I.e. I want to force myself to take breaks, and would like a cronjob that freezes the mouse/keyboard for 15 mins?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: yes previous linux kernels
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: choose a previous one and press enter on it
[09:55] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: It is previous linux VERSIONS not KERNELS
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: tell us what you see in the list
[10:00] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I took a picture an dI am waiting for dropbox ...
[10:03] <motaka2> akik: Are you there?
[10:04] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hlyu24or7uib64/IMG_20151129_132848.jpg?dl=0
[10:05] <rogger_h> Hey guys , i have a vps with a website on but from some reason my space is getting over in GBS ... something fill the disk and it shouldnt , ideas?
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: choose a previous kernel 3.2....
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> rogger_h: maybe the ##networking guys know this?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: whatever makes your pc boot...try them all
[10:07] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: They are so so many
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: try them one by one, until you get in your system
[10:07] <rogger_h> ok
[10:08] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: Thus is not effective
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: try it first before you complain
[10:08] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: They are about 300
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: you dont need all 300, you need 1 to get back in your system
[10:09] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: So why are you asking me to try 300 ? I tries two 3.2.* and they were the same
[10:10] <motaka2> none of them worked
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: your system is really broke mate, install 14.04.3 clean
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: you have a broken upgrade, cant enter recoverymode and cant enter previous kernels
[10:10] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: Ok, wil TJ- come here today ?
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> =reinstall
[10:12] <Dreaman> motaka2 install 4.3
[10:12] <Dreaman> kernel
[10:12] <motaka2> Dreaman: How?
[10:12] <Dreaman> 32 or 64
[10:12] <Dreaman> is you ubuntu
[10:13] <motaka2> Dreaman: I dont know how to install 4.3
[10:14] <Dreaman> yes i use 4.3
[10:15] <motaka2> Dreaman: you dont know english ?
[10:16] <Dreaman> yes i am bulgarian
[10:16] <Dreaman> my english is bad
[10:16] <cfhowlett> Dreaman, looks OK so far. proceed
[10:18] <motaka2> Dreaman: mine is bad too. I have a great Bulgarian friend whose english is bettr than both of us
[10:18] <Dreaman> ok
[10:18] <Dreaman> motaka2 why not use the new ubuntu 15.10
[10:19] <motaka2> Dreaman: I have a lot of apps installed on this one
[10:19] <Dreaman> i use and new kernel 4.3
[10:19] <motaka2> Dreaman: I will try to install it
[10:19] <Dreaman> yes but is upgraet
[10:19] <Dreaman> :)
[10:20] <motaka2> Dreaman: Can you tell me how to upgrade it ?
[10:20] <Dreaman> a dual boot system win 10 and ubuntu 15.10 64 bit
[10:22] <Dreaman> http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/02/55/2bd2ef277beb0255.png motaka2 evrithing work for me and 4k video use in ubuntu see
[10:22] <motaka2> Dreaman: Thanks for you great help. I'll try to install 4.3
[10:23] <Dreaman> ok
[10:23] <motaka2> I need rest. whenever ubuntu changes version I am in trouble
[10:24] <Dreaman> motaka2 reintall 15.10
[10:24] <Dreaman> reinstall
[10:24] <cfhowlett> you know what to do, you just don't want to do it.
[10:24] <motaka2> cfhowlett: What should I do? I dont know
[10:24] <cfhowlett> as SO many have suggested ... clean install.
[10:25] <motaka2> cfhowlett: I cant do that. Doing that is simple but I will lose all my data
[10:25] <cfhowlett> don't format your /home and you should be fine.
[10:26] <cfhowlett> but you backed up all data first anyway, so ... should not be a problem
[10:26] <SCHAAP137> my 15.10 installation hangs quite often, when shutting down; how can i find out what makes it hang?
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> SCHAAP137: F1 to see text shutdown errro?
[10:26] <SCHAAP137> F1 at the moment of hanging?
[10:26] <motaka2> cfhowlett: So can you guide me step by step? I have a 14.04 LIVE dvd, should I use that ?
[10:26] <JasperDK> Hi all. I'm trying to mount a CIFS-share automatically at login with pam_mount, but I'm getting this error message in auth.log: "Luser volume for /home/jni/Music is missing options that are required by global <mntoptions>". Anybody got an idea what that option could be? I've pasted my .pam_mount.conf.xml to http://pastebin.com/hJVC1cDB
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> SCHAAP137: or tail -f /var/log/syslog and shutdown
[10:27] <SCHAAP137> hmm, good idea
[10:27] <cfhowlett> motaka2, that'll work. use the same partitions you currently have. format all EXCEPT your /home
[10:28] <cfhowlett> but FIRST backup your /data. DO NOT proceed before you have your backup completed
[10:29] <Ubik_> /quit
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> SCHAAP137: you can also edit grub "quiet splash" to "" to textboot/text shutdown
[10:29] <shookees> /ragequit
[10:29] <Ubik_> :)
[10:29] <Ubik_> strange behaviour
[10:30] <Dat> can ubuntu be downgraded easily or can I install and older version over a newer version?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> Dat, yes to both questions.
[10:31] <cfhowlett> but old versions? why?
[10:32] <Sprocks> does anyone know how i would go about connecting my Ubuntu server to a PPTP server?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> Sprocks, might ask #ubuntu-server
[10:32] <Sprocks> cfhowlett: i did also ask there, thanks
[10:32] <Dat> cfhowlett: currently I use 14.10 but I experience application freezing, and other random problems when I used 14.04 I had no such problems.
[10:33] <Dat> cfhowlett: how does one downgrade to 14.04 from 14.10?
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> !eol | Dat
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Dat, download 14.04, make aboot USB, boot and install
[10:33] <Dat> cfhowlett: I dont have to format do I?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> Dat, you should. backup your data first.
[10:34] <PanicSkittle> anyone else running 15.04 had netflix stop working today?
[10:34] <motaka2> cfhowlett: I am hungry
[10:34] <cfhowlett> ??? off-topic.
[10:34] <Dat> hrmm darn
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> PanicSkittle: try launch from terminal, see what errors you get?
[10:35] <Dat> I belive that'll screw up my dual boot
[10:35] <motaka2> cfhowlett: booting from the dvd rom
[10:35] <PanicSkittle> launch netflix from terminal?
[10:35] <PanicSkittle> what
[10:35] <Dat> cfhowlett: whats the best way to backup and restore? I'd rather not have to reconfigure everything
[10:35] <motaka2> cfhowlett: Install ubuntu ?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !backup | Dat
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> PanicSkittle: how do you watch? chrome? chromium?
[10:35] <PanicSkittle> firefox
[10:35] <cfhowlett> motaka2, already advised you to exactly that - as have many others.
[10:35] <fennesz> Hello ! Does anyone know of any hard disk with hardware write-protection
[10:36] <PanicSkittle> i guess i can try chrome
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> PanicSkittle: ok try start firefox from terminal and watch netflix
[10:36] <motaka2> cfhowlett: What will happen to /var/www ?
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> PanicSkittle: or try chrome/chromium yes
[10:36] <cfhowlett> motaka2, backup everything you want saved.
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> fennesz: ask in ##hardware please
[10:37] <Dat> cfhowlett: thanks for the info
[10:37] <motaka2> cfhowlett: I dont have a hard drive to back them up
[10:37] <cfhowlett> happy2help! dat
[10:37] <fennesz> lotuspsychje, thank you !
[10:37] <cfhowlett> motaka2, then wait until you do. USB, external HDD, whatever you must do.
[10:37] <motaka2> what will happen to php and apache ?
[10:38] <motaka2> cfhowlett: god bless you. you are so smart
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> SCHAAP137: any luck?
[10:42] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: What about me?
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: ?
[10:42] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: What should I do ?
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: how many times should we tell you the same?
[10:43] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I cant have clean install
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: then you will have more trouble
[10:43] <SCHAAP137> lotuspsychje, no, it didn't do it this time
[10:43] <Dat> sigh i wish this downgrade could be abit easier
[10:44] <motaka2> I hate linux
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Dat, in future, consider using LTS releases only.
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: its not linux fault, your system is broken
[10:44] <Dat> yeah
[10:44] <Dat> 14.04 is LTS right?
[10:44] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: no
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Dat, indeed. next LTS = 16.04
[10:45] <Dat> 16.04 isn't out yet is it?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> april (04) 2016 (16)
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> Dat: in daily builds yes, as developement branch
[10:45] <motaka2> Dat: no the last is 14.04
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: install it yourself
[10:46] <Dat> hrmmm ok
[10:46] <cfhowlett> Dat, but you should not be doing development releases as they are not ready for prime time. Unless you don't mind all the beta testing and breakages.
[10:46] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: install what ? some packages were upgraded and linux is not working. what if next time this happens again ?
[10:47] <Dat> cfhowlett: I mind i've been dealing with these problems for months now
[10:47] <Dat> did and accidental upgrade to 14.10
[10:47] <cfhowlett> Dat, doh!
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: upgrades can always turnout badly, thats why you need to create backups
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: buy a cheap hd/usb to keep your files on
[10:48] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: my windows laptop is so slow. I dont have money to buy a hard drive. and OSes break all the time :(
[10:49] <knoppix> hi nice day
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: install lubuntu on your slow laptop to speed it up and backup your data to there
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> motaka2: there are tons of things to try, and you keep talking here without action
[10:54] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: my laptops DVD and usb ports are not working and it doesnt have free space in there
[10:54] <motaka2> lotuspsychje: I will do some thing about it. Dont worry
[10:55] <eahmedshendy> Hi I have this in my auth.log (Ubuntu 14.04): http://paste.ubuntu.com/13556599/
[10:56] <eahmedshendy> Is that something to be afraid of? Or what does is mean, I am new in Linux administration, and I just search for something weired
[10:56] <ikonia> eahmedshendy: don't worry
[10:56] <ikonia> eahmedshendy: it just means the reverse dns of the person accessing your host doesn't match
[10:57] <eahmedshendy> ikonia: what do you mean by that? there is someone accessing our server from <ip_address>.etisalat.com.eg ?
[10:57] <ikonia> why are you hiding the IP address ?
[10:58] <ikonia> eahmedshendy: but yes, it means someone is trying to access your host from that IP address, however the reverse DNS map doesn't match it
[10:58] <eahmedshendy> Because I don't know if that host is related to us or not
[10:58] <eahmedshendy> I will read about reverse DNS map, to understand it
[10:58] <eahmedshendy> ikonia
[10:59] <eahmedshendy> There is also another warning here I didn't get yet, "[mysqld] warning: can't get client address: Connection reset by peer"
[10:59] <eahmedshendy> get == understand
[10:59] <ikonia> eahmedshendy: someone is trying to connect to the mysql port
[11:00] <eahmedshendy> But this is authentication message? I mean someone fails to connect to the mysql database using a specific password?
[11:00] <eahmedshendy> ikonia
[11:01] <ikonia> it's a message from mysqld it's nothing to do with the password
[11:03] <eahmedshendy> ikonia: Ok, thank you
[11:03] <Carlos0611> ./var/www/html/wp-content/uploads is the upload_path, what chmod should this folder be? I gave it 775 which fixed the issue i was having, in terms of security what should it be? wordpress
[11:03] <ikonia> eahmedshendy: you'll get better responses from people if you don't cross post the same question in 4 - 5 channels at the same time
[11:04] <ikonia> Carlos0611: the web server owner (apache) needs to have write access
[11:04] <ikonia> that is the risk you can't avoid
[11:04] <Carlos0611> its for where wordpress uploads its themes and files
[11:04] <eahmedshendy> ikonia: :), I don't who what channel will have the information for my issue, but I will take your recommendation
[11:04] <ikonia> Carlos0611: I know what it's there for
[11:04] <ikonia> but that doesn't change what I just said
[11:05] <Carlos0611> oh lol
[11:05] <Carlos0611> k so 775 it is
[11:05] <ikonia> that seems too open
[11:05] <ikonia> that's having the group open
[11:24] <bleh> Hi. I ran an lvmresize but it's taking forever, any thought on how to see the progress ?
[11:29] <b3h3m0th> Is it possible to create a wifi hotspot with custom network IP address in ubunut ?
[11:29] <b3h3m0th> *ubuntu
[11:31] <b3h3m0th> Currently when I do the "Use as hostpot", a hotspot gets created with 10.42.0.0/24 IP range. But I am already on an ethernet network with same range. So I need to use different network address for the hotspot
[11:31] <ikonia> it's creating the hotspot with that range because you're on that network
[11:31] <ikonia> you'd need to bring up a different interface do host the other range
[11:32] <ikonia> there maybe a setting within network manager to change the range of the hotspot
[11:32] <b3h3m0th> obviously they are different interfaces
[11:32] <b3h3m0th> wlan0 and eth0
[11:32] <b3h3m0th> ikonia: yes, and I am looking for what that setting is
[11:32] <b3h3m0th> where to do that and how
[11:33] <ikonia> no idea without looking
[11:33] <ikonia> I suspect it's taking the range of your WIFI interface to extend it
[11:33] <ikonia> range
[11:33] <ikonia> thats how it's creating the hotspot, to join in to the existing rang
[11:35] <nub> hi
[11:35] <ikonia> this is interesting, if you set up the hotspot like this, you maybe able to set the range inthe ipv4 tab as it looks like it uses dnsmasq to host the dhcp range
[11:35] <ikonia> http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-an-access-point-mode-wi-fi-hotspot
[11:36] <nub> have you got to be very good at programmimg for google code in
[11:36] <ikonia> nub: pardon ?
[11:37] <b3h3m0th_> did I miss anything ?
[11:37] <b3h3m0th_> ikonia:
[11:37] <ikonia> this is interesting, if you set up the hotspot like this, you maybe able to set the range inthe ipv4 tab as it looks like it uses dnsmasq to host the dhcp range
[11:38] <ikonia> http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-an-access-point-mode-wi-fi-hotspot
[11:38] <ikonia> have a read on that, and see if you can set the hotspot that way and set the ipv4 settings, I think dnsmasq will use those settings to setup the range
[11:38] <ikonia> (I'm not %100 sure without looking myself)
[11:38] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I have a question. I was wondering if there was a free alternative to Landscape, as I will not be using it for a company, but instead for my own use with a dozen computers at max.
[11:39] <ikonia> nope
[11:39] <ikonia> it's a comercial product
[11:39] <OneM_Industries> Drat.
[11:39] <ikonia> there are other tools you can use, such as an ENC with puppet (for example)
[11:39] <OneM_Industries> Ok.
[11:40] <OneM_Industries> I am mainly just trying to learn, so my budget is "As little as possible." ;P
[11:40] <OneM_Industries> (Not that I wouldn't support the devs if I actually had money)
[11:43] <ikonia> OneM_Industries: looks like there isa 30 day free trial
[11:43] <OneM_Industries> Hm, that might work.
[11:47] <IIT> how to create usb image of ubuntu from linux ?
[11:48] <ikonia> !instal | IIT
[11:48] <ikonia> !install | IIT
[11:48] <ikonia> last link IIT
[11:49] <Exagone313> IIT: you want to create your own image?
[11:49] <IIT> ikonia, thanks mate
[11:49] <IIT> Exagone313, yeah i kind off
[11:50] <Exagone313> need a time to find the tutorial I found a time
[11:50] <IIT> Exagone313, np take your time
[11:51] <Exagone313> maybe not up-do-date but this is a start: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[11:52] <IIT> Exagone313, thanks :)
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:02] <hedenclod> Hello, I've been trying to speed up my boot time which I did, except the kernel startup time
[12:02] <hedenclod> I've read about mkinitcpio, but I can't seem to install it or find it in any ubuntu repo
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> hedenclod mkinitcpio is for arch, not for ubuntu
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> (is what i read here)
[12:09] <hedenclod> oh too bad
[12:13] <pokmo> hi
[12:13] <pokmo> when a file stored on a network drive is opened in nautilus, where is the file temporary stored/cached?
[12:14] <ikonia> in /tmp or your home directory, or ram
[12:14] <ikonia> depends on how your implmentation is configured
[12:14] <pokmo> ikonia: right. do you know how to find out exactly where it's stored?
[12:14] <ikonia> pokmo: why don't you tell us the real problem ?
[12:15] <pokmo> ikonia: i just want to make sure it's not writing to my main drive which is a SSD
[12:15] <ikonia> so look in /tmp look in your home directory and look on the network share's same current working directory (very unlikely)
[12:16] <ikonia> you'll most likley see it in ram, unless it's too big
[12:16] <pokmo> well, i've looked at /tmp and they don't seem to be tehre
[12:16] <ikonia> and to be honest, does it matter if it's writing to your ssd
[12:16] <pokmo> ikonia: do you know how to check if it's stored in ram?
[12:16] <ikonia> if it's open - it's stored in ram
[12:17] <ikonia> and as I said, does it matter if it's writing to your ssd ?
[12:17] <pokmo> ikonia: well, i bought my drive just a yr and a bit ago, now it's only got 60% life left
[12:17] <ikonia> have you set it up properly, eg: using trim ?
[12:17] <pokmo> so i want to investigate the cause of the rapid deterioration
[12:18] <ikonia> how are you working out %60 life ?
[12:18] <pokmo> yes, it's trim enabled
[12:19] <pokmo> the wear level count is 524
[12:19] <ikonia> how are you working that out ?
[12:20] <pokmo> i pulled the drive out and plugged it into my OSX box. ran DriveDx on it
[12:20] <ikonia> not sure I'd trust that personally
[12:20] <pokmo> and total LBAs Written: 18.2TB
[12:22] <ikonia> run lsof against the bo
[12:22] <ikonia> box
[12:22] <ikonia> see what's open while you've got the file open
[12:22] <ikonia> I seriously doubt that even huge numbers of opening temporary files would put that ammount of stress on it
[12:23] <anonymousgrey1> hello
[12:23] <pokmo> right
[12:34] <Kiborg> Hello. I have Ubuntu 15.10 64 bit with Geforce GTX 970. I am using Nvidia propertary drivers form additional drivers. Until recently it has wokred like charm, but after the latest update I am unable to even log in, I get login loop.
[12:35] <ikonia> what's a login loop ?
[12:36] <Kiborg> when you login and get thrown right back to the login screen
[12:36] <Kiborg> Login via console works
[12:36] <ikonia> then what do the logs say ?
[12:37] <blb31750> looper...
[12:37] <ikonia> what ?
[12:38] <blb31750> there's a movie called looper
[12:38] <Kiborg> how do I check that?
[12:38] <ikonia> how does that have anythig to do with this channel or the discussion
[12:38] <blb31750> sorry, just couldn't resist
[12:38] <ikonia> Kiborg: there is a selection of logs in /var/log that X server log, the syslog, the security log
[12:38] <ikonia> blb31750: then please don't, it's not helpful
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | blb31750
[12:42] <Kiborg> Ikona: That is strange, the login loop is gone... Now the only problem is I have no Unity just desktop, no windows at all
[12:43] <ikonia> that strikes me as a problem with your desktop config, rather than the graphics card/drivers
[12:43] <ikonia> create a new user, login as that new user,
[12:43] <ikonia> see if hte problem is system wide, or just your user
[12:45] <blb31750> just trying to figure out what would be the optimal way to split 128GiB SSD into root and home partitions? Shoult 15GiB be minimum for the root?
[12:45] <ikonia> depend on your setup
[12:46] <ikonia> you can run it on as little as 2G,
[12:46] <ikonia> it's a personal choice you need to make/work ou
[12:46] <ikonia> out
[12:46] <k1l> blb31750: for general desktop usage something around 15GB is fine
[12:46] <blb31750> desktop
[12:46] <cfhowlett> blb31750, I have ubuntustudio + all alternate packages. 13 GB all told.
[12:46] <variuss> hi i just installed ubuntu 15.10
[12:46] <variuss> and i cant find where move window control buttons to right side
[12:47] <blb31750> it's because not all packages are allowed to be installed into /opt
[12:47] <ikonia> nothing goes in /opt by default
[12:48] <k1l> blb31750: /opt means 3rd party stuff you install not using the package management. that is totally your own decision and choice. we cant know about that
[12:56] <Kiborg> Ikona: Sorry it took so long, I am not the best at this. So I created a new user and it works!
[12:56] <Kiborg> But this brings me to the first problem
[12:56] <ikonia> Kiborg: so that means your user enviornment is broken
[12:56] <ikonia> rather than anything to do with your system
[12:56] <Kiborg> I think I know why
[12:57] <Kiborg> Something is wrong with nvidia drivers
[12:57] <ikonia> why do you say that ?
[12:57] <ikonia> you've just proven they are working fine
[12:57] <Kiborg> New user is using Noveau I am using nvidia updates
[12:58] <ikonia> you can't have a new user usign different drivers from another user
[12:58] <ikonia> they are kernel level modules and configured in the X server not per user
[12:58] <Kiborg> Oh ok sorry
[12:58] <Kiborg> Assumed wrong then
[12:58] <ikonia> why did you assume the new user was using noveau ?
[12:58] <Kiborg> I checked
[12:59] <Kiborg> He does
[12:59] <ikonia> checked what ? how ?
[12:59] <k1l> Kiborg: loginto the terminal with that user (ctrl+alt+t) then make "mv .config .configbackup"
[12:59] <k1l> then relogin to that user.
[12:59] <Kiborg> Under the additional drivers, the noveau are chosen
[12:59] <ikonia> noveau is not an additional driver
[13:00] <ikonia> it's part of the kernel
[13:00] <ikonia> I'm not really confident with the information you're giving me
[13:00] <Kiborg> Sorry about that
[13:00] <ikonia> the nvidia "drivers" are system wide and confiurd in the xorg server,
[13:00] <ikonia> I suggest you skip to the solution as k1l suggested
[13:01] <ikonia> remove your user config from the broken user, login, make sure the problem is gone, and then rebuild your personal settings
[13:07] <frite> did anyone see that o_O?
[13:08] <k1l> frite: see what?
[13:14] <Kiborg> Ikona and k1l: It works! Thank you!
[13:48] <bgardner> I've set up mail & calendar integration with Google using online accounts and now Evolution syncs the Calendar up nicely and shows my email. All good there, but now about 3 times per day I get a system modal pop-up challenging for my password associated with my email and no answer I can give is ever correct. Any tips on how I can trace where this dialog box is coming from and stop it?
[13:49] <Dat> well my reinstall went well
[13:50] <Dat> lost a few things and still need to reconfigure some stuff
[13:50] <Dat> but yay! 14.04 again!
[13:50] <cfhowlett> Dat, so ... we happy?
[13:50] <Dat> cfhowlett: for the most part yes :)
[13:51] <Dat> not sure if I should reinstall all the packages I backed up to a package.list
[13:51] <cfhowlett> dat system > software updater > settings > Updates > Notify me of New Ubuntu version: for LTS releases.
[13:51] <cristian_c> hello, I've found https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/qt4-qtconfig-dbgsym
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Dat, up to you.
[13:51] <Dat> and i'm not sure if I should copy over my old home directory to get the application settings
[13:51] <accident> new build computer with a Gigabyte AM3 AMD 970 SATA motherboard. Ubuntu 14.04.01 AMD64. Lan won't connect. Connected fine with i386 version on pen drive.
[13:51] <cristian_c> I see this package in launchpad, but I don't see it in universe repositories
[13:51] <cfhowlett> Dat, hold off on that for a bit.
[13:52] <accident> How do I load the latests drivers for the lan?
[13:52] <Dat> cfhowlett: yeah configureing the software notify now
[13:52] <Dat> cfhowlett: yeah I was thinking grab what I need when I need it
[13:52] <Dat> time to figure out how to disable the touchpad while mouse is plugged in
[13:53] <cfhowlett> Dat, I settings > mouse and touchpad > device enable or disable as required
[13:54] <Dat> cfhowlett: just found it
[13:54] <cristian_c> it seems to belong to official repositories but I can't find it with a search
[13:54] <Dat> all better now hate the touch pad
[13:55] <cfhowlett> Dat, I don't hate it, but I have found it virtually unusable due to lack of sensitivity settings. Mine in WAY too delicate.
[13:55] <Dat> cfhowlett: yeah thats how mine is thats why i dont like it
[13:55] <accident> how do i load ethernet drivers?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Dat, I purchased the dell keyboard/mouse combo and disabled my trackpad .
[13:56] <cristian_c> How could I find more info about this?
[13:56] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:57] <Dat> cfhowlett: ahh i'm using a laptop so I just bought a mouse
[13:57] <cfhowlett> dat well, happy you're happy. any other issues outstanding??
[13:57] <macskay_> hi guys, i just added a user to www-data and tried to use mkdir inside a /var/www/html/... folder which is 755 to www-data, but still can't create a subfolder. I tried re-logging, still nothing.
[13:58] <macskay_> What am I missing?
[13:58] <Dat> haven't tested my windows install yet, however I did see it in the grub menu so thats a good sign... right now just trying to get all my settings back and missing packages
[13:58] <Dat> cfhowlett: currently getting virtualbox and tools together
[13:59] <Dat> cfhowlett: and a script to audo switch sound outputs on a hotkey
[13:59] <cfhowlett> Dat, I dropped my win7 into a virtualbox in ubuntu since I can count the number of times I use windows in the single digits
[14:00] <Dat> cfhowlett: I remember maybe a year ago or so that when the laptop goes to sleep or the screen saver it has a problem waking back up do you know if this is fixed or is some script still needed for that?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Dat, xscreensaver conflicts with lightlockerDM. recommendation is to avoid using it.
[14:01] <Dat> cfhowlett: avoid using xscreensaver?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> indeed.
[14:02] <cfhowlett> Dat, you're on xubuntu or ubuntu??
[14:04] <cfhowlett> Dat, http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> Dat what you can try: use rsync and 'screen' to make your backups, you can then even logout without interrupting the backup process, so i guess the screensaver would not harm either
[14:07] <HoloIRCUser4> I'm on 14.04.3 is
[14:08] <HoloIRCUser4> How
[14:09] <Dat> cfhowlett: sorry got called away
[14:09] <Dat> cfhowlett: I am using kubuntu
[14:09] <cfhowlett> Dat, http://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[14:09] <Dat> cfhowlett: ok i'll check that out
[14:10] <Dat> MonkeyDust: sounds like I'd need to write a script and crontab
[14:10] <Dat> MonkeyDust: probably some sort of auto-mount to my nas to
[14:16] <Dat> cfhowlett: looks like I may not even have xscreensaver so I might be safe on that
[14:16] <scorpio32> Black Arch or Knoppix?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> Dat yes, like 'if (exists) nas-mountpoint; execute backup script; else mount nas; execute backup script'
[14:16] <bazhang> !ot | scorpio32
[14:17] <hipitihop_> On 14.04.3 is there a repo to install fwupd
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> !find fwupd
[14:17] <Dat> MonkeyDust: yeah i'll have to play with that
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> !info fwupd
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> hipitihop_ fwupd sits in the Universe
[14:18] <Dat> Does anyone know what file controls the contents of the panel on the desktop?
[14:19] <bekks> Dat: Whats the issue at that point? :)
[14:19] <Dat> trying to remember what all I had on my panel but might be better if its stored in some file
[14:19] <hipitihop_> Odd I tried apt-get install but couldn't find it. Must be pebkac
[14:19] <Dat> bekks: the only problem is not remembering what icons/apps I had
[14:19] <renso> good morning, i want to personalize or modify the text displayed in boot sequence, because in me pc, is a mess. any idea what is the right term for it ?i cant search precise because idk the right term. thanks
[14:20] <jose__> hey
[14:20] <jose__> want
[14:20] <hipitihop_> The MonkeyDust
[14:20] <jose__> shit
[14:20] <hipitihop_> Thx
[14:21] <jose__> oh no
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> jose__ do you have a support qurestion?
[14:21] <jose__> yes
[14:22] <Dat> MonkeyDust: do you know what package to use to test out a webcam?
[14:22] <jose__> any
[14:22] <jose__> no
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> Dat 'cheese'
[14:22] <bazhang> !info cheese
[14:22] <Dat> ahh yes thats it thx MonkeyDust
[14:22] <bazhang> jose__, whats the support question
[14:23] <renso> hi, any idea how personalize the output display on ubuntu boot sequence ???
[14:26] <Dat> strange touchpad is enabled again but is disabled in device inputs
[14:26] <Dat> wth
[14:28] <hipitihop_> MonkeyDust just confirmed universe enabled but apt fails to find fwupd. Right pkg name?
[14:29] <bazhang> !info fwupd trusty
[14:29] <k1l> hipitihop_: "lsb_release -d" brings what output?
[14:30] <bazhang> !info fwupd
[14:30] <k1l> fwupd is in the repos since 15.10
[14:30] <hipitihop_> Standby ssh of tablet, bit sloe
[14:30] <bazhang> so a systemd -ish thing
[14:30] <bazhang> not in trusty, no
[14:30] <k1l> not even in vivid
[14:31] <bazhang> 15.04 on wards
[14:31] <bazhang> its in wily
[14:32] <hipitihop_> bazhang Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[14:33] <bazhang> hipitihop_, thats trusty
[14:33] <HeisenbergsDog> who creates the release names btw? mr. shuttleworth?
[14:34] <deke111> !info cheese
[14:34] <k1l> HeisenbergsDog: yes
[14:34] <HeisenbergsDog> cool, ok
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> HeisenbergsDog he's the 'benevolent dictator for life'
[14:35] <HeisenbergsDog> nice to know he still contributes
[14:35] <hipitihop_> bazhang yes, so fwupd not available?
[14:35] <k1l> MonkeyDust: missed the "sa" of sabfl" :)
[14:35] <k1l> hipitihop_: not for 14.04. its in the repo since 15.10.
[14:35] <bazhang> !info fwupd trusty
[14:36] <bazhang> no
[14:36] <k1l> hipitihop_: and iirc its a systemd thing so it wont work on 14.04 anyway
[14:37] <HeisenbergsDog> what are the next planned names? for x/y/z?
[14:37] <hipitihop_> bazhang & k1l thanks
[14:37] <k1l> HeisenbergsDog: x ist already named. the next one will be named when xenial is released
[14:38] <HeisenbergsDog> xonotic xenial?
[14:38] <k1l> !16.04 | HeisenbergsDog
[14:38] <HeisenbergsDog> uh. thx.
[14:39] <SCHAAP137> cool
[14:39] <SCHAAP137> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_ground_squirrel
[14:41] <HeisenbergsDog> SCHAAP137, i see. nice.
[14:53] <sere> my tv is cutting off some of the screen.. how can i scale it down
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> sere you mean the resolution of your monitor?
[14:55] <sere> MonkeyDust, for some reason i need to manually scale it down because it gets cuts of
[14:56] <renso_> hello, any can readme ?
[14:56] <sere> renso_, no
[14:56] <renso_> too bad :(
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !test | renso_,
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> sere is the aspect ratio correct (21:9, 16:9, 4:3)
[14:57] <renso_> nice, thanks
[14:57] <v3rsi0n> is here anyone to help?
[14:58] <cfhowlett> !ask | v3rsi0n
[14:58] <renso_> have a question, how can change or organize text displayed on boot sequence ?? where all services and process start like ......service xxxxxx start (ok)
[14:58] <v3rsi0n> How do i install terminology terminal on ubuntu 15.10?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> !info terminology
[14:59] <sere> MonkeyDust, im trying to use the resolution 1920x1080 but part of it gets cut off.. in windows aswell , so what i did to fix was just use the amd castalist to shrink it down a bit ..cantg seem to it here
[15:00] <renso_> V3rsi0n, this ppa have terminology https://launchpad.net/~enlightenment-git/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> sere sounds like a hardware issue, then, the buttons on your monitor
[15:01] <v3rsi0n> thank you
[15:01] <v3rsi0n> let's try
[15:01] <v3rsi0n> :)
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> sere got to go now, hope you find a solution
[15:04] <renso_> any ideo or software to change or organize text displayed on boot sequence ?? where all services and process start like ......service xxxxxx start (ok)
[15:04] <marcus__> join #ubuntu-de
[15:05] <renso_> is ubuntu dev ??
[15:05] <logglog> hey ppl can someone help me plz, i even asked this question at ask ubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/703756/krita-installation-problems but now i have the same problme wiht other oftware
[15:12] <Hund> logglog: Try another source.
[15:12] <logglog> Hund hwo
[15:12] <logglog> how*
[15:13] <Hund> Uhm
[15:13] <Hund> Via the.. uhm..
[15:13] <Hund> 2 sec. I have to look it up.
[15:15] <Hund> Software sources.
[15:16] <Hund> " For the latest versions of Ubuntu, the easiest way is to go through the "Ubuntu Software Center". Open the software center, then from the Edit menu select "Software Sources"."
[15:16] <Hund> I havent used Ubuntu since 2010, so I'm a bit rusty. :P
[15:33] <andyfied> what are you looking for?
[15:33] <andyfied> i'm on ubuntu now so i might be able to help ^_^
[15:34] <k1l> logglog: change mirrors. that mirror you use seems to have issues
[15:44] <Exagone313> Hi, each times I want to use screen, I have this message: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. so I have to chown this file every times to use screen on a new user... Is there any workaround? Thanks for your help.
[15:47] <SchrodingersScat> Exagone313: that's funny, I just did that as well
[15:47] <Exagone313> lol
[15:47] <Exagone313> I do it like every days
[15:50] <SchrodingersScat> Exagone313: yeah, seems to set a new one each ssh session, so every time my machine disconnects from another
[15:50] <Exagone313> here, I'm connected via ssh, and I need to use screen for two users, it's annoying.
[15:56] <v3rsi0n> why i am getting this error while installing terminology?
[15:56] <v3rsi0n> sudo apt-get -f install
[15:56] <v3rsi0n> Reading package lists... Done
[15:56] <v3rsi0n> Building dependency tree
[15:56] <v3rsi0n> Reading state information... Done
[15:56] <v3rsi0n> Correcting dependencies... Done
[15:57] <k1l> !paste | v3rsi0n
[15:58] <v3rsi0n> !screenshot
[15:58] <Rafibd01717> hi
[15:58] <k1l> v3rsi0n: use a pastebin for terminal output
[15:58] <Rafibd01717> anybody see me?
[15:59] <Rafibd01717> Well I installed mongodb according to this tutorial... http://www.in2rafi.com/install-mongodb-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[15:59] <v3rsi0n> sorry i am new to xchat irc.. i dont know the rules
[15:59] <Rafibd01717> after it I removed mongodb using sudo apt-get remove mongodb command
[16:00] <v3rsi0n> i got error while installing terminology in ubuntu 15.10
[16:00] <Rafibd01717> but when I run update I see this message.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13546921/
[16:00] <Rafibd01717> How can I completely remove mongodb files and make my system as it is before installation of mongodb
[16:01] <v3rsi0n> Morning it was working well. but when i try to run terminology it says like libelelementary.so.2 at /usr/lib/ : file couldnot be found
[16:01] <SchrodingersScat> Rafibd01717: that seems to say it couldn't connect to your 3rd party repo at all
[16:02] <Rafibd01717> SchrodingersScat, I see
[16:02] <HeisenbergsDog> Exagone313: tmux > screen
[16:02] <Rafibd01717> what is the solution?
[16:03] <Exagone313> HeisenbergsDog: screen is supposed to work isn't it?
[16:03] <SchrodingersScat> Rafibd01717: you could remove the repo for the mongodb
[16:03] <Exagone313> it does not work as expected
[16:03] <Rafibd01717> SchrodingersScat, let me know the process
[16:04] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: `sudo apt-get purge mongodb`, then try to update again.
[16:04] <HeisenbergsDog> Exagone313, sure. but tmux is cooler anyway.
[16:05] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: "Purging" is your "completely remove package" action you'relooking for. It ensures config files, global settings, etc, are removed.
[16:06] <sachin> hello friends
[16:06] <sachin> i just install KVM for Android SDK
[16:06] <sachin> but still unable to do it
[16:06] <sachin> is it necessary to install ubuntu on VM
[16:07] <SchrodingersScat> Rafibd01717: if that's the tutorial you followed then you would be looking for "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/mongodb-org-3.0.list" but that doesn't seem to match the repo you mentioned, so not sure.
[16:08] <sachin> actually after installing KVM is it essential to have an OS on it
[16:08] <Rafibd01717> agent_white, actually I get nothing http://paste.ubuntu.com/13559831/
[16:09] <Rafibd01717> SchrodingersScat, can you let me know what to do now?
[16:10] <Guest51511> ciao
[16:10] <SchrodingersScat> Rafibd01717: if you have the file mentioned, I would remove it, and that should put you back to before you did the tutorial.
[16:10] <Guest51511> ay italian male
[16:10] <Guest51511> ay italian male
[16:10] <Rafibd01717> SchrodingersScat, you mean manual remove?
[16:11] <teward> Guest51511: not the right channel or network for that, please stop.
[16:11] <sachin> i created a kernel based virtual machine for Android SDK
[16:12] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: If you've removed /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mongodb-org-3.0.list, then to finish up, revoke the gpg key you added.
[16:12] <sachin> and as we gave the ISO image of Ubuntu
[16:12] <sachin> then it starts doing it
[16:13] <SchrodingersScat> Rafibd01717: you can move it somewhere else if you're concerned about losing it, but it should be one line of text.
[16:13] <sachin> ok now will do it installation on it then will be back to you
[16:13] <agent_white> sachin: If you're trying to figure out your Android SDK, join #android... or ##android. I forget which.
[16:13] <sachin> oh
[16:13] <sachin> that is good
[16:13] <agent_white> SchrodingersScat: Nah no need, he can just remove it entirely.
[16:14] <agent_white> Then revoke the gpg key he added.
[16:14] <Rafibd01717> SchrodingersScat, well what is the file remove command in terminal?
[16:14] <SchrodingersScat> Rafibd01717: rm
[16:14] <Rafibd01717> sudo rm filename?
[16:14] <SchrodingersScat> Rafibd01717: yes
[16:15] <v3rsi0n> is there a way / command that i can completely reset my ubuntu like fresh new?
[16:15] <SchrodingersScat> backup and reinstall?
[16:15] <agent_white> v3rsi0n: Re-install :)
[16:16] <Rafibd01717> SchrodingersScat, well I removed the both files from their
[16:16] <Rafibd01717> now whats next?
[16:17] <agent_white> Both?
[16:17] <agent_white> There should have been only one.
[16:17] <v3rsi0n> yeh... already backup data.. now i will reinstall :D (headache)
[16:17] <SchrodingersScat> Rafibd01717: should be done, next time you do a sudo apt-get update you shouldn't see the error.
[16:17] <Rafibd01717> you mean mongo is now completely purged?
[16:17] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: Revoke the gpg key.
[16:18] <Rafibd01717> agent_white, I am not sure about what you are talking?
[16:18] <SchrodingersScat> it should have been removed after the apt-get purge, you can use find to look for straggling directories though. find / -iname "*mongodb*"
[16:18] <Rafibd01717> what is gpg key?
[16:18] <Rafibd01717> and how to revoke it?
[16:18] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: In the first step of your tutorial, you add a gpg key for the new repo.
[16:18] <Rafibd01717> yes
[16:18] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: This allows you to talk to that repo. Looks like you added in the key... 7F0CEB10
[16:18] <Rafibd01717> as I am removing mongo why should I revoke it?
[16:18] <Rafibd01717> ok
[16:19] <Rafibd01717> now why should I revoke it?
[16:19] <mariano> Is there a way to incorporate ubuntu's workspace view (for workspace management) on Xubuntu?
[16:19] <agent_white> Because you're no longer using it. (It was added for that repo)
[16:20] <Rafibd01717> agent_white, I see.
[16:20] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: `gpg --edit-key 7F0CEB10`
[16:20] <Rafibd01717> how can I revoke it?
[16:20] <agent_white> Read my command above.
[16:21] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142258/how-do-i-revoke-a-pgp-key
[16:22] <Rafibd01717> agent_white, I did gpg --edit-key 7F0CEB10
[16:22] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: Really, you don't _need_ to do this, but you can for good practice.
[16:23] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: If that didn't work, do `gpg --list-keys` and find the one relating to mongo.
[16:23] <Rafibd01717> it gave me this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/13560079/
[16:23] <Rafibd01717> agent_white,
[16:23] <Rafibd01717> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13560079/
[16:24] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: `sudo apt-key del 7F0CEB10`
[16:25] <Rafibd01717> doing this agent_white
[16:26] <blb31750> is overprovisioning still relevant for ssd drives? should i keep some amount of unallocated space?
[16:26] <Rafibd01717> agent_white, well now I see this when I do sudo apt-get update ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/13560150/
[16:27] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: Key expired, need to update your keylist.
[16:28] <Rafibd01717> agent_white, I see
[16:28] <Rafibd01717> Do I really need to update key?
[16:28] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: Go ahead and delete that key
[16:28] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: `sudo apt-key del 1436387333`
[16:29] <Rafibd01717> done
[16:29] <Rafibd01717> now should I run another update?
[16:29] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: Then you need to remove the PPA associated with that key.
[16:29] <Rafibd01717> ehh
[16:29] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: Here, follow the rest of the commands here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/650032/gpg-errorthe-following-signatures-were-invalid-keyexpired
[16:30] <Rafibd01717> lots of work
[16:30] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: `sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/samrog131*` `sudo apt-get clean` `sudo apt-get update`
[16:30] <agent_white> Done :)
[16:31] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: Next time you follow a tutorial, don't just copy-paste commands, but try to understand what exactly is happening... though better idea is to learn how to use the terminal first.
[16:31] <Rafibd01717> sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/samrog131* You can not remove this file. no file like this
[16:31] <agent_white> Rafibd01717: Try update
[16:32] <Rafibd01717> ok
[16:32] <agent_white> Or clean first.
[16:32] <agent_white> apt-get clean, then apt-get update.
[16:33] <SchrodingersScat> !info mongodb trusty | why did you need another repo for this anyway?
[16:37] <agent_white> ^ That's the real question, haha.
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> he installed it from git manually, we been over this yesterday
[16:39] <agent_white> Oh lord.
[16:39] <deskwizard> Good morning, I'm having an issue with 14.04.3 and CP2101 usb-serial converter
[16:39] <deskwizard> the /dev doesn't show up, doesn't show it as created in dmesg
[16:39] <deskwizard> device is detected by lsusb and dmsg
[16:40] <deskwizard> any ideas on what might be going on ?
[16:40] <deskwizard> FTDI FT232R are working properly
[16:40] <deskwizard> havent tested PL2303
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: can you tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin the device?
[16:40] <xar-> pet peeve, using [enter] as punctuation ><
[16:41] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/GeQUz6Jm
[16:42] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, last 2 lines normal?
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: no its an error, looking it up
[16:43] <deskwizard> let me see if I get it with the FTDI
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: might try these: http://askubuntu.com/questions/505932/ubuntu-14-04-mtp-error
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: tried different usb ports?
[16:44] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, get the same error when plugging FTDI but this one works
[16:44] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, FTDI: http://pastebin.com/QMKzSUqA
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: detects the device: ftdi_sio 3-1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: but still that mtp error
[16:45] <deskwizard> Yes, but it also makes the /dev/ttyUSB device which CP2101 does not
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: installed that mtp tool?
[16:46] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, doing it now
[16:46] <deskwizard> which makes me think, I often have issues with SD cards and flash drives...
[16:46] <deskwizard> I bet thats related
[16:47] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, what you linked is for making mtp work
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: well as we have mtp error, might try to install
[16:48] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, why not, im fully backed up anyway
[16:49] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, no change
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: you might put a realtime tail -f /var/log/dmesg too while you fool around
[16:49] <deskwizard> ... lol one sec...
[16:50] <deskwizard> little case of dislexia this morning hehe
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: your first paste syslog, the device has the mtp error in the middle, second paste at the end
[16:50] <frite> how do i check if i have usb 3 support?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> frite: lsusb
[16:50] <deskwizard> frite, is one of the port blue? :P
[16:51] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, because there was 2 events in the first
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: yeah
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: wich ubuntu version was this?
[16:51] <frite> ok, i dont, but if the usb bluetooth device is backwards compatible with 2.0 it will work anyway+
[16:51] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, 14.04.3
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: ok good
[16:52] <deskwizard> anything over 15.04 kernel panics
[16:52] <deskwizard> (raid card driver)
[16:52] <deskwizard> (megasas)
[16:53] <ro> hello. I need some help trying to format an SSD. I've tried running 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1' to clear the MBR and partition table but that didn't seen to work. After rebooting I can still see the partitions when run 'lsblk'
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: plug out/in for your dmesg tail
[16:53] <ikonia> ro: thats just the boot sector
[16:53] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, thats what I'm doing... want another ?
[16:53] <ikonia> ro: that's not going to do anything
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: can you pastebin the dmesg also?
[16:53] <ikonia> just run fdisk or parted and remove the partition, or put a new file system on it
[16:54] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, how far do you want me to go... its the same messages over and over just diff device # ...
[16:54] <deskwizard> just sayin
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: paste the whole thing :p
[16:54] <frite> this means usb 2.0 compatible right: Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[16:54] <frite> ?
[16:54] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, mkay
[16:55] <ro> ikonia: I cant run gparted or the 'disks' both give me this error repeatedly "Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sdb2: Input/output error"
[16:56] <ikonia> ro: are the disks in use/mounted ?
[16:56] <deskwizard> lol pastebin making machine laggy
[16:56] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/uFjri75N full dmesg
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[16:56] <ro> ikonia: yes. running umount gives me 'umount: /dev/sdb: not mounted'
[16:56] <deskwizard> (maybe I should have rebooted lol)
[16:56] <ikonia> ro: thats not a valid command
[16:57] <ikonia> ro: please pastebin the output of the command "mount" and fuser /dev/sdb
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: did you plugout here? ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[16:58] <frite> are there no USB-USB cables, I mean not USB to micro but just uSB to USB?
[16:58] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, different converters
[16:59] <deskwizard> those work: ttyACM0 and ttyUSB0-1
[16:59] <ro> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/wtBa8vUn
[16:59] <deskwizard> ie. USB ACM and ftdi_sio
[16:59] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, want me to reboot and unplug all the other ones
[16:59] <deskwizard> might help
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: ok cool
[16:59] <deskwizard> be back in 10 ... server... hehe
[17:00] <ro> ikonia: 'fuser /dev/sdb' doesn't output anything
[17:00] <ikonia> ro: you certainly have some additional disks mounted
[17:01] <ro> ikonia: i have /dev/sda but thats my main hdd. the one im currently booted from
[17:01] <ikonia> ro: you also appear to have additional user space mounts,
[17:01] <ikonia> ro: please pastebin the output of the folloing, exactly as I type it
[17:01] <ikonia> ro: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[17:02] <ro> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/xCCSdTAa
[17:03] <ikonia> ro: if you run the following command, what is the output "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: wb
[17:03] <deskwizard> :) ty
[17:03] <axwhy> hi all
[17:04] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, reboot - plug CP2101 - dmesg
[17:04] <deskwizard> http://pastebin.com/4ALAYkyM
[17:04] <ro> ikonia: its in an interactive mode. http://pastebin.com/BaTCNDjY
[17:04] <axwhy> im using ubuntu 15.10, my laptop using processor amd fx-7600p. my problem is my fan is too noise, how to slove this problem?
[17:05] <ikonia> ro: so if you do "d" then "1" what happens
[17:05] <mircx1> Hola
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: dmesg shows no issues, device connects and recognizes
[17:05] <mircx1> please help
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: can you try the tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugout/plugin again?
[17:05] <mircx1> how i reload php5?
[17:05] <ikonia> what do you mean reload ?
[17:05] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, of course
[17:06] <mircx1> i try to do something like it
[17:06] <mircx1> service php5 reload
[17:06] <ikonia> mircx1: you need to stop/start apache
[17:06] <ikonia> php is a module thats part of apache
[17:06] <mircx1> how?
[17:06] <ro> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/cYjim0ac
[17:07] <ikonia> ro: choose 5
[17:07] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, its not working... :| lol
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> axwhy: did you have this on other ubuntu versions?
[17:07] <deskwizard> i mean, the tail ... whats the full command again ?
[17:07] <ikonia> mircx1: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[17:07] <deskwizard> ok got it
[17:07] <ro> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/WCbpzTtn
[17:08] <ikonia> ro: now do "w"
[17:08] <mircx1> how i reload php5?
[17:08] <profall> Is this the Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS support channel?
[17:08] <ikonia> mircx1: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:08] <mircx1> 10
[17:08] <ikonia> mircx1: that's not a version
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> profall: #ubuntu-server might help
[17:08] <mircx1> 10.0.4
[17:08] <ikonia> mircx1: are you sure you're not using centos ?
[17:08] <mircx1> no
[17:08] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/6BPRUx3w
[17:08] <axwhy> lotuspsychje: previously im using 14.04, i slove the problem using indicator-freq. but this version doesn't work.
[17:09] <mircx1> i use with ubuntu 10.0.4
[17:09] <ikonia> can I see the output of uname -a please mircx1
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: we keep getting that mtp issue
[17:09] <ro> ikonia: It says 'Device or resource busy'. How can I free the drive?
[17:09] <ikonia> ro: thats fine, did it exit the fdisk shell ?
[17:09] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, yes, but as I mentionned, I get the same error with the FTDI and ACM drivers and those work
[17:09] <mircx1> Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-74-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 28 10:02:35 UTC 2015 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:09] <deskwizard> I think the ID isnt in the driver list or soemthing
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: maybe check lspci -nn
[17:10] <ro> ikonia: yes http://pastebin.com/V4h3wiNM
[17:10] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, pci? not usb ?
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: yeah sorry
[17:10] <ikonia> ro: ok, so if you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" now, do you see partition 5 as gone ?
[17:10] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, hey im getting good at this :P
[17:10] <ro> ikonia: yes, http://pastebin.com/KdFfjunE
[17:11] <ikonia> ro: ok, do the same with partition 2 and partition 1
[17:11] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, so if its listed there, its detected by the driver ... I wonder why the device doesnt get created :|
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> axwhy: file a bug against 15.10 or go back to LTS?
[17:12] <ro> ikonia: done, http://pastebin.com/mjc4asPH
[17:12] <mircx1> ikonia
[17:12] <mircx1> how i reload php5?
[17:13] <ikonia> ro: ok, next time you reboot, your partitions will be gone
[17:13] <ikonia> mircx1: you need to stop and start apache
[17:13] <ikonia> mircx1: what's the actual problem
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: you can try ubuntu-drivers devices from terminal maybe
[17:13] <ro> ikonia: will do. be back in 5. Thanks so much for the help! :)
[17:14] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, no result (null return)
[17:15] <deskwizard> same thing if I run it as root
[17:15] <Kartagis> !info avconv
[17:15] <axwhy> lotuspsychje: hmm i cannot going back. i love this version, all my hardware work in this version. except fan is too noise and multi touch on touchpad.
[17:15] <Kartagis> !info avconv trusty
[17:15] <Kartagis> !find avconv
[17:15] <deskwizard> axwhy, what does the CPU load look like at idle ?
[17:16] <Kartagis> heh
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> axwhy: try file a new bug against indicator-freq?
[17:17] <deskwizard> are you f.. kidding me
[17:17] <deskwizard> # sec
[17:17] <deskwizard> 1 sec
[17:17] <ikonia> deskwizard: no need for language
[17:17] <ikonia> if you can't communicate without trying to swear, don'e
[17:17] <ikonia> don't
[17:18] <axwhy> deskwizard: fan still noise
[17:18] <ro> ikona: no luck. i ran 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb' and I see the old partitions. But the partitions were gone before i rebooted
[17:18] <axwhy> lotuspsychje: thanks.
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: can you check the silabs website, seems like it has linux firmware/drivers
[17:18] <ikonia> ro: really,
[17:18] <ikonia> ro: what type of disk is this ?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: maybe you find something usefull?
[17:19] <ro> ikona: MX100 SSD 512 gb. I just got it from amazon a week ago
[17:19] <ikonia> crucial SSD, interesting
[17:19] <ikonia> ro: can I take a look at the output of "mount" again from your current system please
[17:19] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, I'll look into it. thanks for your help
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> deskwizard: hope you get it working
[17:20] <mhoney> Does anyone know of an open source rdp/vnc connection broker like logmein? I found Guacamole, but that is limited to one-site per instance. I'd like to find something that is cloud based
[17:20] <ro> ikona: should I do 'sudo mount' or just 'mount'? Does it make a difference?
[17:20] <ikonia> ro: just mount is fine
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> mhoney: be carefull with remote software, try ssh instead
[17:20] <ro> ikona: http://pastebin.com/RzZXYN7X
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> ro: did you check if your ssd has firmware updates?
[17:21] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, likely not, would have been more practical, but I'll just use another one for now, I don't feel like compiling drivers and stuff on a sunday morning
[17:21] <ikonia> ro: what do you see in "ls -la /run/user/1000/gvfs"
[17:21] <deskwizard> but then again, I hate it when machines win on me so...
[17:21] <deskwizard> game on.
[17:22] <deskwizard> well, I guess not.
[17:22] <deskwizard> *Note: The Linux 3.x.x version of the driver is maintained in the current Linux 3.x.x tree at www.kernel.org.
[17:22] <ro> ikona: http://pastebin.com/nf2GgH5p
[17:23] <deskwizard> lets see what happens if I try a PL2030...
[17:23] <ro> lotuspsychje: the firmware of the ssd? or the computer?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> ro: yeah ssd website mostly have recent firmware upgrades, might be worth checking it also
[17:24] <ikonia> ro: ok, so "sudo fuser -fuc /dev/sdb5"
[17:25] <deskwizard> damn, another FTDI, well so much for the PL test
[17:25] <deskwizard> how does one file a bug report for such an issue lotuspsychje ?
[17:25] <ro> ikona: it says '/dev/sdb5 does not exist'
[17:25] <ikonia> ro: pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" again please
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !bug | deskwizard
[17:25] <Redblue> Hi. How many commands does the average Ubuntu user know from memory?
[17:26] <ikonia> Redblue: not really a relevent question
[17:26] <deskwizard> Redblue, depends on the amount of issues he/she had :P
[17:26] <ro> ikona: http://pastebin.com/LvXnpJbz
[17:26] <Redblue> ikonia, just a curiosity quetion
[17:27] <ikonia> ro: "ls -la /dev/sdb*"
[17:28] <ro> ikona: http://pastebin.com/qxg9zSpf
[17:28] <ikonia> ro: intersting, 5 is gone, but still showing on the partition table
[17:29] <jtreminio> Hello! Does anyone know under what user the cron-apt program installs its cron?
[17:29] <ikonia> ro: lets go back and try your original idea
[17:29] <ikonia> ro: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc
[17:30] <ikonia> ro: oops, sorry ignore that
[17:30] <ikonia> gave you the wrong sectors
[17:30] <blb31750> Redblue: 42
[17:30] <ro> ikona: could this be a firmware thing? as someone else suggested?
[17:30] <ikonia> ro: I don't think so
[17:31] <ikonia> ro: run the dd command I gave you, lets see what it does first
[17:31] <ikonia> ro: don't forget sudo
[17:31] <Redblue> blb31750, that's a lot, I think I know 10 at the most, and only understand 3 of them if any
[17:31] <blb31750> does ubu use systemd in 15.10?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> jtreminio: under the user who's using it?
[17:31] <ro> ikona: alright. http://pastebin.com/pAPJEMUh
[17:31] <k1l_> blb31750: ubuntu uses systemd since 15.04
[17:32] <blb31750> ok, thanks
[17:32] <ro> ikona: fdisk -l shows me part 1,2 and 5. Maybe a reboot will help?
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> jtreminio: is the tool meant for creating a cron to get automatic updates on the user right?
[17:32] <ikonia> ro: try it, it shouldn't matter though, unless it's mounted
[17:33] <ro> ikona: sure. when in doubt reboot haha. be back in 5
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !manual | Redblue maybe memorize some here?
[17:34] <jtreminio> lotuspsychje: its cron job wasn't showing up when I listed them by user; however, I've decided to use anacron instead. Thanks though!
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> jtreminio: ok good luck
[17:34] <Redblue> lotuspsychje, will check it out, thanks
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> ro: can you tell us how your ssd is connected to pc, changed anything in bios?
[17:36] <deskwizard> lotuspsychje, sorry to be a pain about this but, how would one file a kernel panic for example? I can't do ubuntu-bug since its panicked... will it detect the panic if I run it after I rebooted without the troublesome hardware?
[17:36] <deskwizard> nevermind
[17:36] <Li> what's the name of files browser application if I wanted to run from command line?
[17:36] <deskwizard> lets make ubuntu-bug work first...
[17:36] <ro> ikona: fdisk -l shows part 1,2,5
[17:37] <ikonia> ro: it's almost as if it's not being written to, you could have a duff drive
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> Li: gksu nautilus
[17:37] <Li> lotuspsychje: what is that?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> Li: the file browser you asked
[17:38] <ro> ikona: I had a sneaking suspicion that drive was broken. Anyway we can confirm with a test? I know you can do memtest for ram. is there something similar for hdds?
[17:38] <ikonia> ro: can you do a more agressive test, how big is this disk, 500mb ?
[17:38] <ro> ikona: 512 gb
[17:38] <Li> lotuspsychje: The program 'gksu' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[17:38] <Li> sudo apt-get install gksu
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> Li: you can just start nautilus from terminal without gksu also
[17:39] <Li> lotuspsychje: however it ran when I typed nautilus alone
[17:39] <ikonia> ro: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=25m
[17:39] <ikonia> ro: that will put zeros across the whole drive
[17:39] <ikonia> if that doesn't work, your drive is not being written to, it will take some time though, so be patient
[17:40] <ro> ikona: 'invalid number 25m' i think m needs to be 'M'?
[17:40] <ikonia> sorry, M yes
[17:41] <ro> ikona: got it.
[17:41] <thepad> for some reason kodi or xbmc wont run on my system
[17:41] <thepad> i tried installing of manager and site
[17:41] <ro> ikona: the cursor went to the next line with no output. Should it be giving me output?
[17:41] <thepad> any ideas
[17:42] <thepad> kodi problems
[17:43] <ikonia> ro: silent
[17:46] <TheGlobefish> hi :) i've been told to come here for help. apparently my graphics setup is broken:
[17:46] <TheGlobefish> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760 OEM] [10de:118e] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8477] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 46 Memory at f6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e8000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at e000 [size=1
[17:46] <TheGlobefish> ] [size=512K] Capabilities: <acces
[17:46] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: who told you to come here for help ?
[17:46] <ikonia> please don't paste big lines into the channel, use a pastebin TheGlobefish
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> sircmpwn from #truecraft on esper
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> s denied> Kernel driver in use: nouveau 01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller [10de:0e0a] (rev a1) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8477]
[17:47] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: so this channel is an ubuntu technical support channel,
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> thats my graphics setup
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> i was confused at first
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> because i'm on debian
[17:47] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: please stop pasting long lines into this channel, use pastebin.ubuntu.com to share info
[17:47] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: ok, then the channel you want is #debian
[17:47] <ikonia> not #ubuntu
[17:47] <TheGlobefish> ok, thanks :)
[17:47] <ikonia> TheGlobefish: if you do "/join #debian" you'll be fine
[17:55] <motaka2> TJ- wont come here tonight ?
[17:56] <welle_> hi all
[17:56] <ikonia> motaka2: who knows,
[17:56] <motaka2> ikonia: :)
[17:57] <blb31750> TheGlobefish: yeah, paste your lines there...
[17:57] <motaka2> ikonia: Something happened to my ubuntu 12.04, everyone told me to install a clean version but TJ- was trying to find out what the problem was.
[17:57] <ikonia> ok ?
[17:58] <niklas> hey
[17:58] <welle_> what do you guys think of ubuntu 15.10
[17:58] <niklas> its cool
[17:58] <k1l_> welle_: it works
[17:58] <blb31750> welle_: it's newer as 15.04
[17:58] <welle_> you dont say
[17:58] <niklas> the next lts version 16.04
[17:59] <k1l_> welle_: we stick to precise support issues in here. so is there a question?
[17:59] <welle_> no sorry.. didnt mean to interrupt anything
[17:59] <k1l_> welle_: for general talk there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:59] <welle_> ok thanks
[18:02] <blb31750> there are 3 ubuntu releases left including 16.04. After that all names are used
[18:02] <k1l_> blb31750: and then it starts from the beginning again. so no need to worry
[18:06] <blb31750> hope it'll be called aaron aaronson then
[18:07] <k1l_> blb31750: thats more a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic and not a technical issue for this channel
[18:08] <blb31750> ok ok, i'll go then
[18:11] <arno> cd
[18:12] <arno> ls -l
[18:14] <AbuDhar> how to check which graphics card is used when I game e.g.?
[18:14] <AbuDhar> in terminal
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: sudo lshw -C video
[18:18] <Martijn-NL> Hi everyone - i'm trying to install mono-develop not from the marketplace, because the marketplace gives me version 2.8.X.X. and I want the latest version of MonoDevelop. I followed the original manual of monodevelop add a repo, but it's not working when I try apt-get install mono-complete. Can anyone help me?
[18:18] <AbuDhar> http://pastie.org/10589809 so the GeForce is being used lotuspsychje?
[18:19] <nitrodriver> Hi
[18:19] <nitrodriver> Who is french ?
[18:20] <Guest33780> after i install vsftpd and create user and pass, i can not login to ftp what im doing wrong ?
[18:20] <zykotick9> !fr | nitrodriver
[18:21] <Martijn-NL> Why is the Ubuntu Marketplace not giving me the latest version of MonoDevelop? :-(
[18:23] <istanbul> slm
[18:23] <istanbul> herkese
[18:23] <istanbul> selam
[18:24] <AbuDhar> wa alaykum salaam :)
[18:30] <ilyass> hello
[18:30] <AbuDhar> anyone who wants to answer me?
[18:31] <ilyass> how are you ?
[18:31] <nootan> anyone there is a problem with my vidalia.
[18:31] <ikonia> fine ilyass, welcome to #ubuntu technical support channel
[18:32] <AbuDhar> ikonia: http://pastie.org/10589809
[18:32] <nootan> setup
[18:32] <AbuDhar> which one is currently used?
[18:32] <ikonia> AbuDhar: why are you giving me that paste ?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: have you installed nvidia-prime?
[18:32] <ilyass> ohh thank's ikonia
[18:32] <AbuDhar> let me check
[18:33] <AbuDhar> yeah it is installed lotuspsychje
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: ubuntu version and driver loaded?
[18:33] <nootan> anyone there is a problem with my vidalia setup.tor is not running.
[18:33] <AbuDhar> Ubuntu version 14.04
[18:33] <AbuDhar> not sure about the driver is loaded..
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: you can check active driver in additional drivers
[18:33] <ilyass> what do you do her in #ubuntu technical support channel ???
[18:33] <AbuDhar> checking
[18:34] <ikonia> ilyass: support people with ubuntu technical problems
[18:34] <AbuDhar> Using Nvidia binary driver lotuspsychje
[18:34] <ilyass> oh cool :D
[18:34] <AbuDhar> 355
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: try 304 or 346 perhaps
[18:34] <AbuDhar> version 355.06 from nvidia-355
[18:35] <zykotick9> nootan: note vidalia is discontinued! see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidalia_%28software%29
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: did you enable performance mode in nvidia-settings?
[18:35] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje: no..
[18:35] <AbuDhar> let me try that
[18:35] <AbuDhar> I did
[18:35] <AbuDhar> it doesn't allow me lotuspsychje
[18:35] <AbuDhar> I just get a warning sign when I try that
[18:36] <AbuDhar> and switches back to Intel saving mode
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: hmmm, try another driver in your list
[18:36] <liber> i removed some pkgs including xorg mesa and gpu driver and installed them again a little after that but now x wont start. only error it gives is /usr/bin/openbox error wile loading shared libraries: libEGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no suck file or directory, any idea what this is?
[18:36] <AbuDhar> trying the 304
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: ok reboot after + performance mode try
[18:37] <AbuDhar> sure. thanks! :)
[18:37] <AbuDhar> I have lags in CSS so I thought it was so weird lol
[18:37] <ikonia> be aware you'll not get good support/performance via wine
[18:37] <AbuDhar> not that my graphics card is anything special... just that it should be able to handle that game.
[18:37] <ikonia> it's a lottery depending on card/wine version/game
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: if your nvidia card isnt enabled on nvidia-settings to performance mode nothing will work on high video
[18:38] <AbuDhar> ah ok lotuspsychje :) but thanks for helping me anyway
[18:38] <AbuDhar> I will try after a reboot to see if I can change that.
[18:41] <Ricky_Rat5005> I'm running Ubuntu Server 14, trying to install vsftpd, it gets to the line removing tftpd and just hangs for hours. Any suggestions? I've tried to remove tftpd on it's own and it just hangs as well.
[18:42] <daftykins> i would not recommend using standard ancient FTP on a server in 2015 regardless, Ricky_Rat5005
[18:44] <Ricky_Rat5005> daftykins - I need either tftp or ftp for Freepbx. What would you recommend for that?
[18:45] <daftykins> never used any phone systems.
[18:45] <daftykins> so it's solely for the software and config update provision via trivial FTP?
[18:45] <daftykins> Ricky_Rat5005: oh your removal fail could be down to not stopping the service beforehand?
[18:46] <Ricky_Rat5005> Yes, either tftp or ftp, but polycom phones use ftp by default I believe.
[18:47] <AbuDhar> Error: alternatives are not set up properly
[18:47] <AbuDhar> Error: nvidia mode can't be enabled
[18:47] <AbuDhar> when I try this: sudo prime-select nvidia
[18:47] <AbuDhar> lotharn:
[18:47] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje:
[18:47] <AbuDhar> sorry lotharn :D
[18:47] <Ricky_Rat5005> daftykins ok, I will check that. But need one of the two.
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: wich driver your on now?
[18:48] <AbuDhar> 304.131
[18:49] <AbuDhar> I don't need bumblebee btw?
[18:49] <AbuDhar> since it is intel + nvidia
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: no, bumblebee is outdated
[18:49] <AbuDhar> oh
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: nvidia-prime replaces it
[18:49] <AbuDhar> should I try the 352.63 version ?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: you just had that version active no?
[18:50] <AbuDhar> no I think that was 355
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: try 346 perhaps
[18:50] <dbugger> Hey guys. Can someone help me? I cant connect through SSH to my server, even though trough my provider, which offers a "Console view" mode I can do it without problem! I am using in both same user and password... I dont understand!
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> if that shows
[18:50] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje: it's not listed.
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: and you cant enable performance mode on 340?
[18:51] <daftykins> dbugger: VPS from who?
[18:51] <AbuDhar> nope not on 304.. it gives me Error: alternatives are not set up properly
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: weird
[18:51] <AbuDhar> should I try 340?
[18:51] <AbuDhar> this 304 is a legacy driver
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: you can try
[18:52] <dbugger> daftykins, DigitalOcean
[18:52] <AbuDhar> trying.. also have to check BIOS this time :D
[18:52] <daftykins> dbugger: ah same here. so you still receive the login prompt when you SSH in?
[18:53] <dbugger> daftykins, I get a "Permission denied"
[18:53] <dbugger> but on the console of the website, I can log without a problem
[18:53] <daftykins> dbugger: yep, is this the root user+pass they email you with on setup?
[18:54] <dbugger> daftykins, I reset the root password. I logged into the "Console View", logged in, and changed it
[18:54] <dbugger> daftykins, Now I can keep logging in on the website, but not in my local terminal
[18:54] <daftykins> right, but it's root you're using via SSH?
[18:54] <dbugger> yes, Im doing "ssh [email protected]"
[18:54] <bekks> !root | dbugger
[18:55] <dbugger> what is even weirder, my public SSH is stored on authenticated_keys, so I should even get the password prompt
[18:55] <daftykins> dbugger: ok, restart sshd from the website console login to start
[18:55] <bekks> dbugger: I guess you are awawre of that, already?
[18:55] <dbugger> daftykins, ok...
[18:55] <daftykins> bekks: DO VPS' unfortunately come with root login as default
[18:55] <dbugger> bekks, please, im confused enough :)
[18:55] <bekks> dbugger: "authenticated_keys" is wrong: authorized_keys is correct.
[18:55] <dbugger> bekks, yeah, that. Typing mistak
[18:56] <dbugger> daftykins, Im gonna try restart sshd
[18:56] <assasin9000> hola soy nuevo
[18:56] <daftykins> dbugger: also for completeness, try just 'ssh IP'
[18:57] <daftykins> actually that'll try your current user; maybe 'ssh IP -u root'
[18:57] <dbugger> daftykins, Ok, Ill try
[18:57] <dbugger> daftykins, -u does not exist
[18:57] <daftykins> er make that -l root
[18:57] <daftykins> heh ;)
[18:58] <anon123> I uninstalled makedev and now unity, networking and many core applications are missing. How do I reinstall it from a livecd?
[18:58] <daftykins> anon123: with a chroot
[18:58] <anon123> I tried chroot
[18:58] <anon123> apt-get is broken
[18:58] <EriC^^> anon123: did you mount --bind /run ?
[18:58] <dbugger> daftykins, -l gives the same result
[18:59] <daftykins> you probably didn't apply a working resolv.conf for networking to work
[18:59] <dbugger> daftykins, and I completely restarted the machine. Same result
[18:59] <daftykins> try it again ;)
[18:59] <dbugger> daftykins, what do you want me to try?
[18:59] <Noxx_> Hello ^^ can i ask help with ubuntu here?
[18:59] <daftykins> dw the above was to anon123
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> Noxx_: yes
[18:59] <daftykins> dbugger: ok, try doing it from another user on your home system so rule out your existing user config
[19:00] <Noxx_> ahh great ty :)
[19:00] <anon123> I used http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/how-to-fix-non-bootable-ubuntu-system.html as a guide
[19:00] <dbugger> daftykins, I have no other user in my server
[19:00] <daftykins> so make one
[19:00] <dbugger> oh, on the local one
[19:00] <daftykins> or test from the guest session
[19:00] <anon123> for i in /sys /proc /run /dev /dev/pts; do sudo mount --bind "$i" "/mnt$i"; done
[19:00] <dbugger> Is my root ok?
[19:00] <AbuDhar> still not working lotuspsychje. tried with 340
[19:00] <daftykins> dbugger: check logs at both ends too, remember you can ssh with more debug output by adding '-vv'
[19:01] <daftykins> dbugger: yeah would't hurt for a test
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: thats weird mate
[19:01] <anon123> EricC^^: for i in /sys /proc /run /dev /dev/pts; do sudo mount --bind "$i" "/mnt$i"; done
[19:01] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451335/cant-switch-anymore-from-intel-to-nvidia-gpu
[19:01] <AbuDhar> looking at this
[19:01] <EriC^^> anon123: ok
[19:01] <daftykins> most optimus implementations don't offer switching ;)
[19:02] <dbugger> daftykins, this happened: http://pastebin.com/nn2PuHdS
[19:02] <AbuDhar> I remember getting it to work with bumblebee back then.
[19:02] <dbugger> daftykins, I tried from my local root, and it did not work neither
[19:02] <daftykins> dbugger: i bet you've got remote login via password disabled in sshd_config
[19:02] <dbugger> daftykins, how can I check that?
[19:03] <daftykins> /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the console web login
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: did you install bumblebee before?
[19:03] <Ricky_Rat5005> I've tried installing either/both tftpd and vsftpd... both hang during install when it says "Setting up (vsftpd or tftpd). I let them sit for hours but they just sit there.
[19:03] <AbuDhar> yeah long time ago.. not on this ubuntu install
[19:03] <AbuDhar> but on this machine.
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: or any drivers from nvidia site?
[19:04] <Noxx_> uhm how does one register on ubuntu forums lol?
[19:04] <Ricky_Rat5005> No other programs have issues with apt-get that I have installed.
[19:04] <AbuDhar> hmm I don't remember if I tried from their site
[19:04] <game0> guys, is there any program that can help me in browsing folders in ubuntu server easily, I'm facing a problem that I had to write each time command for moving folders inside the server
[19:04] <game0> is there any solution that can make it easily for me
[19:04] <minitrue> game0: ranger
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> AbuDhar: maybe try that 352 then?
[19:04] <game0> UI
[19:04] <AbuDhar> lotuspsychje: trying.
[19:05] <bekks> game0: How about stating the actual problem?
[19:05] <dbugger> daftykins, what am I looking on that file?
[19:05] <daftykins> game0: learning to use CLI is a very useful skill, alternatively, you can mess around with sftp.
[19:05] <k1l_> game0: use tab completion
[19:05] <daftykins> dbugger: pastebin it
[19:05] <k1l_> game0: or use mc (midnight commander)
[19:05] <minitrue> game0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_%28file_manager%29
[19:05] * Noxx_ slaps Noxx_ around a bit with a large fishbot
[19:06] <game0> my pc is windows version
[19:06] <daftykins> the easier you try and make computing tasks for yourself, the easier it'll be for you to forget how to do it properly when the time comes :)
[19:06] <dbugger> daftykins, Good I hate this console view...
[19:06] <game0> and I want to browse files in my ubuntu server easily
[19:06] <dbugger> daftykins, I think I saw "permitrootlogin no"
[19:06] <daftykins> dbugger: "cat file | nc termbin.com 9999" would be ace
[19:06] <daftykins> dbugger: heh that might have had a # in front though right?
[19:07] <k1l_> game0: stop asking. read the answers first
[19:08] <dbugger> daftykins, it has no comment. Im going to change it to "Yes"
[19:09] <daftykins> dbugger: i'd actually advise you create a standard user instead, with sudo rights
[19:09] <daftykins> for security purposes remote root login = a no no
[19:10] <dbugger> daftykins, indeed, but for the time being, Ill leave that on the todo list. I need to get something done..
[19:10] <k1l_> dbugger: on ubuntu dont use root. login as user and use sudo where needed
[19:10] <daftykins> ok, it's two commands though ;)
[19:10] <k1l_> !sudo | dbugger
[19:10] <daftykins> he knows, this is a digitalocean VPS where it's standard to be email'd a root password
[19:11] <dbugger> daftykins, it worked!
[19:12] <dbugger> daftykins, now Id like to know, why it asked me the password, when my public key was inside "authorized keys" ... =P
[19:12] <AbuDhar> not working.
[19:12] <SchrodingersScat> !details | AbuDhar
[19:14] <Noxx_> how do i register on the ubuntu forums :P the register thingy's arent as normal on the site there lol
[19:15] <k1l_> Noxx_: #ubuntuforums for questions regarding the forums. that is where the admins and mods hang out
[19:16] <Noxx_> oh ok thx i thought i could post questions for me understanding buntu im a noob at linux Oo
[19:17] <k1l_> well, registering at a forums is not really an ubuntu issue :) running the browser on windows would have the same issue, i guess
[19:18] <daftykins> dbugger: you're on your own there, i don't do key auth
[19:18] <Noxx_> teh problem i have is i got me a 160g pata disk and i cant get it formated like normal it gives me 2 partitions while i want to completly whipe the disk then i get errors that the disk doesnt exist
[19:18] <k1l_> dbugger: reloaded the ssh service after including the key?
[19:19] <heypaleblue> exit
[19:19] <k1l_> Noxx_: with what program?
[19:19] <heypaleblue> exit
[19:19] <bekks> Noxx_: can you rephrase it, using interpunctuation?
[19:19] <Noxx_> just a sec im checking i tryed to do this with disks
[19:20] <k1l_> Noxx_: well, try "gparted"
[19:20] <AbuDhar> where did lotus go? :D
[19:20] <daftykins> to watch the boxing
[19:21] <Noxx_> yea that one i just got
[19:21] <AbuDhar> daftykins: aah ok
[19:21] <Noxx_> brb trying something
[19:21] <dbugger> k1l_, the key is there since months
[19:22] <k1l_> dbugger: doesnt matter if the ssh was not restart since then
[19:22] <AbuDhar> daftykins: I am able to switch to nvidia now but when I try to logout and login again it keeps blinking. Trying to restart now
[19:22] <akik> you don't need to restart sshd for adding public keys
[19:22] <mloza> Hi guys, I'm using mate as DE and I replaced the default mate-screensaver with xscreensaver and now the Lock Screen button in the System menu is not functioning. How do I edit the command of the Lock Screen in the System menu?
[19:22] <dbugger> k1l_, I just repowered the whole server. Isnt that the same?
[19:22] <Ricky_Rat5005> Can anyone tell me the difference btwn tftp and tftp-hpa?
[19:22] <k1l_> dbugger: yes
[19:23] <dbugger> k1l_, ignore what I just said... now it does not ask me for password...!
[19:23] <dbugger> I understand nothing o.O
[19:26] <AbuDhar> not working.. It keeps switching back to Intel after restart
[19:29] <AbuDhar> I am trying something drastic now :D
[19:33] <logglog> Hi ppl, is there a command or software that can shutdown my computer in couple hours or any time given
[19:34] <bekks> logglog: "shutdown".
[19:34] <logglog> xD
[19:34] <logglog> and how to make it shutdown in 1h?
[19:34] <logglog> i am new to linux
[19:34] <Canon> hello all I have a lvm that was in another laptop and I would like to mount it on another pc to take the data off. Using all the tricks tht are on different sites and nothing is working ... any ideas
[19:34] <isReKT2000> bekks, he's looking for a scheduling sort
[19:35] <bekks> isReKT2000: And thats what "shutdown" provides.
[19:35] <Canon> man shutdown
[19:35] <bekks> isReKT2000: "man shutdown", find the -h option.
[19:35] <k1l_> logglog: you really want to get used to manpages. they are the documentation from the commands. there you can seen what the command is able to do
[19:35] <Ricky_Rat5005> logglog take a look at the -t option
[19:35] <daftykins> Canon: that's unlikely, really you just want a hand? ;)
[19:36] <Canon> hand ?
[19:38] <SchrodingersScat> Ricky_Rat5005: that's not an option in my version, it would just be shutdown 60
[19:38] <daftykins> Canon: help.
[19:38] <daftykins> Canon: so did you identify the volume name on this other disk?
[19:40] <Canon> yes... do you mean /dev or using vgscan
[19:43] <daftykins> Canon: i think you can spot them with 'blkid' too
[19:45] <guite> Hi everyone, my mouse is horribly fast and the speed cursor is at the lowest (in the mouse configuration screen)… Is there anything I can do to permanently slow down my mouse ?
[19:47] <l0p3n> Hey! Is there any backup tool to backup older files with longer intervals between the backups and newer files with shorter intervals between the backups?
[19:47] <sethj> is there a way I can force Unity to reload it's cache/db/whatever of .desktop files/launchers?
[19:47] <guite> OK… xinput made it
[19:47] <daftykins> !backup
[19:47] <Canon> found the volume name ...just cant mount it
[19:47] <guite> thanks anyway :D
[19:47] <flan_suse> l0p3n: Like a smark backup policy?
[19:48] <sethj> I put two new launchers in /usr/share/applications but even after 3 reboots Unity refuses to show them.
[19:48] <daftykins> Canon: ok so what file system does it use, what command are you entering and what error do you get?
[19:48] <l0p3n> flan_suse: I'm not sure what that is but maybe you could explain :)
[19:49] <AbuDhar> anyone who can try to help me solve this issue I have? I cannot switch to Nvidia in nvidia-settings
[19:49] <daftykins> optimus setups mostly don't work that way IME
[19:49] <Canon> ext4 sudo mount -ro /dev/sda3 /mnt/mount/
[19:50] <daftykins> Canon: that's not standard syntax - and you can't use sda3 like i'm sure i've told you before :)
[19:50] <daftykins> Canon: sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:50] <flan_suse> l0p3n: How you described. Old files will be archived in more spaced out intervals (months, then years), but new backups will keep archives more frequently, like days, weeks, etc.
[19:50] <AbuDhar> daftykins: was that for me?
[19:51] <daftykins> yep
[19:51] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Yes that's exactly what I'm looking for!
[19:51] <flan_suse> l0p3n: BackInTime works in that sort of fasion.
[19:52] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Aha I will give it a try. Thanks!
[19:52] <AbuDhar> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for x86_64-linux-gnu_gfxcore_conf
[19:52] <flan_suse> l0p3n: Do you know how to add PPAs?
[19:54] <daftykins> Canon: so any luck on that command output?
[19:54] <AbuDhar> daftykins: let me show you my grub file ok ?
[19:54] <daftykins> no i'm good
[19:54] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Yes, how come?
[19:54] <AbuDhar> yes daftykins
[19:54] <AbuDhar> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="i915.enable_rc6=0 i915.enable_fbc=0 i915.lvds_downc$
[19:54] <AbuDhar> I will remove those i915
[19:54] <AbuDhar> those are intels
[19:54] <AbuDhar> right?
[19:54] <flan_suse> l0p3n: The BackInTime PPA has the most recent versions and updates.
[19:55] <daftykins> yes
[19:55] <flan_suse> l0p3n: https://launchpad.net/~bit-team/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[19:55] <AbuDhar> ok... that's maybe why it doesn't work.
[19:55] <Canon> what do i use if not /dev/sda3
[19:55] <daftykins> Canon: we'd find that out if you gave me the output of the command i asked you to run in a timely fashion
[19:55] <Ricky_Rat5005> I have googled the 'snot' out this. I am trying to install tftp server on Ubuntu 14. I am following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/201505/how-do-i-install-and-run-a-tftp-server but when I do an apt-get install xinetd tftpd tftp it gets to setting up xinetd and just hangs.
[19:55] <flan_suse> l0p3n: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bit-team/stable && sudo apt update
[19:56] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Great! I forgot to ask, can BackInTime make backups over the internet or a network?
[19:56] <flan_suse> l0p3n: I haven't used it in a long time.
[19:57] <flan_suse> l0p3n: I think over a local network, maybe? Not sure about over the internet. Unless it's a remote directory mounted to look like a local folder?
[19:57] <flan_suse> l0p3n: I know BackInTime will not work (or work "efficiently") if the file system does not support hard links.
[19:57] <Canon> the other thing that happens is that after a period of time the computer that i have the harddrive pluded into goes in sleep mode... screen turn blak and there is nothing i can do other then turn the system off
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> Ricky_Rat5005 running a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:58] <Ricky_Rat5005> Thanks. I'll try there.
[19:59] <l0p3n> flan_suse: Thank you!
[19:59] <flan_suse> l0p3n: Welcome. :)
[20:02] <guite> OK, I think I have one more question: Is there a way to launch an xinput command when logging. I read about the .xsession files and it doesn’t seem to work anymore, lightdm uses *.desktop files which I don’t understand…
[20:02] <AbuDhar> http://pastie.org/10590050 this is my current error
[20:02] <EriC^^> guite: startup apps
[20:03] <guite> hmmmm…
[20:03] <guite> EriC^^: thanks, I’ll try :)
[20:05] <EriC^^> guite: sure, np :)
[20:05] <Canon> any ideas
[20:07] <guite> EriC^^: …aaaaaaand it works ! \o/
[20:08] <guite> EriC^^: thanks again :)
[20:20] <hexabit> Hi
[20:21] <gt8ost4l> i need help i accidently deleted documents and all my files are gone can someone help me recover this file
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> !recover
[20:22] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: on the terminal?
[20:23] <gt8ost4l> k1l: what
[20:23] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: how did you delete that documents? on the terminal? on the desktop? did you look into the trash?
[20:24] <gt8ost4l> yes itwas a mistake cause i thought mega nz upload it so i peremently deleted it
[20:24] <gt8ost4l> can i somehow get it back?
[20:25] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: see the bots message
[20:25] <ioria> gt8ost4l, in addition you can try with photorec in the testdisk package , but it will recover a lot of files
[20:26] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: in short: not without massive work, and not with a 100% chance.
[20:27] <Dredd|> UH
[20:27] <Dredd|> Why am I banned on ##Linux?
[20:27] <gt8ost4l> so what can get back my documenrts
[20:28] <Dredd|> I've never even chatted there.
[20:28] <Dredd|> Hello?
[20:28] <k1l_> Dredd|: ask in #freenode
[20:29] <SlidingHorn> Dredd|, You can ask in either #freenode or ##linux-ops. Not really a topic for here though
[20:29] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: there is not a "click here and get all files back" button. so you need a lot of work
[20:29] <gt8ost4l> im not saying it would be easy
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> a gui to do it would be nice, unfortunately, i lack the skills to create one
[20:31] <k1l_> gt8ost4l: so see the answers you already got.
[20:33] <ioria> gt8ost4l, lets say that you removed mp3 files, you install testdisk, run sudo photorec , look for filters in Files Options, and select only mp3, then it'll ask you where to save the files. but they are recovered under anoymous name and you don't know if they are the files that you lost or files that you voluntary deleted
[20:37] <motaka2> ioria: Do you know if TJ comes today ?
[20:38] <ioria> motaka2, really not ! how are you doing ?
[20:38] <ioria> motaka2, linux-generic didn't work ?
[20:38] <motaka2> ioria: I am fine, Thank you. How are you ?
[20:39] <ioria> motaka2, so and so, thanks
[20:39] <motaka2> ioria: no it didnt
[20:39] <ioria> motaka2, how comes ?
[20:40] <motaka2> In the morning people said I have to install a clean ubuntu. I stayed for TJ- to come and confirms this. Do you think I should do that ?
[20:40] <motaka2> ioria: It is 00:10AM here
[20:40] <motaka2> I am still in the office
[20:41] <motaka2> ioria: ^^
[20:41] <motaka2> ioria: ^
[20:41] <ioria> motaka2, oh... sorry to hear that. well, a fresh install, is the quicker solution ....
[20:42] <ioria> motaka2, can you paste uname -r ?
[20:42] <motaka2> ioria: I dont have harddrive to backup. but I will do that
[20:42] <motaka2> ioria: wait so I start the machine
[20:42] <ioria> motaka2, ok
[20:44] <motaka2> ioria: do you want to see the content of /etc/ something in which grub configs are held ? akik told to modify it the other day
[20:44] <ioria> motaka2, uname -r
[20:48] <motaka2> ioria: 3.13.0-68-generic
[20:49] <ioria> motaka2, ok.... and the system boots normally ?
[20:49] <motaka2> ioria: define normally
[20:49] <motaka2> please
[20:50] <magmr> how to see the sha sum of a file from it's .sig ?
[20:50] <ioria> motaka2, are you still booting in text mode ?
[20:51] <motaka2> ioria: right now yes
[20:51] <ioria> motaka2, can you login ?
[20:51] <motaka2> ioria: I ran the last command from putty
[20:52] <motaka2> ioria: if you mean logging in from the greeter no, cause I dont see the GU, but I can login with putty or the text mode
[20:53] <ioria> motaka2, ok, if you run sudo service lightdm start , what you got ?
[20:54] <motaka2> ioria: donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$ sudo service lightdm start
[20:54] <motaka2> [sudo] password for donkarlo:
[20:54] <motaka2> lightdm start/running, process 3132
[20:54] <motaka2> donkarlo@mohammad-desktop:~$
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> motaka2 next time, use a pastebin for multiple lines
[20:54] <daftykins> usually it auto switches to the GUI when that works
[20:54] <motaka2> ioria: on the ubuntu PC i see the blank page that blinks some times
[20:55] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: It was just for lines
[20:55] <motaka2> four
[20:55] <ioria> motaka2, ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[20:55] <motaka2> ioria: -rw------- 1 donkarlo donkarlo 0 Nov 22 18:23 /home/donkarlo/.Xauthority
[20:55] <daftykins> motaka2: just use the paste site next time please :)
[20:56] <ioria> motaka2, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:58] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13565517/
[20:59] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:00] <daftykins> pesky google PPA ruining the day :)
[21:00] <kodis4piracy> hey guys how do i turn off the adds and spying in ubuntu
[21:01] <kodis4piracy> ads
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> kodis4piracy define ads and spying
[21:01] <bekks> But not believing in rumors.
[21:01] <daftykins> !ops | kodis4piracy
[21:01] <bekks> *By
[21:01] <daftykins> regular troll, sort him out
[21:01] <bekks> ah.
[21:01] <kodis4piracy> MonkeyDust, when i search it shows me stuff from amazon and sends my searches to canonical
[21:02] <kodis4piracy> daftykins, i'm not here to troll just asking a question
[21:02] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13565571/
[21:03] <ioria> motaka2, comment with a # the cdrom entries
[21:03] <motaka2> ioria: how ?
[21:04] <ioria> motaka2, the first two , i mean .... with this : #
[21:04] <ioria> motaka2, should look like that # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386
[21:05] <ioria> motaka2, both
[21:06] <motaka2> ioria: vim says it is read only
[21:06] <ioria> motaka2, with sudo
[21:07] <motaka2> ioria: done
[21:07] <ioria> motaka2, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:08] <ablegreen> Alright guys, need some help. I have a linux laptop. It's got wifi. It has no problem connecting to two of my wifi networks (each has a diff wifi brand router). However, for one of them, I have to reboot the dhcp server on the laptop to get an ip address every time I connect. Any ideas?
[21:08] <motaka2> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13565651/
[21:08] <ioria> motaka2, ok, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:09] <bekks> ablegreen: It sounds pretty pointless to have a dhcp server running on your laptop when trying to connect to a wifi network.
[21:09] <bekks> ablegreen: your laptop needs a dhcp client, not a server.
[21:09] <ablegreen> bekks: Sorry, I meant dhcp client
[21:09] <ablegreen> not server, correct.
[21:09] <bekks> ablegreen: So what do you mean by "reboot the dhcp client"?
[21:10] <ablegreen> dhclient -r
[21:10] <ablegreen> Not exactly "reboot"
[21:10] <ablegreen> but forcing it to get a new ip address
[21:10] <ablegreen> then dhclient
[21:10] <bekks> Which is totally different from "rebooting".
[21:10] <ablegreen> Yes.
[21:10] <nmatrix9> Hey all just did a xubuntu update and for some reason my audio is now borked - I no longer can get sound and my audio card is no longer detected.
[21:11] <daftykins> so you open a terminal and run "dhclient <interface_name>" ?
[21:11] <bekks> ablegreen: So which IP does your laptop have prior and after connecting to that particular network?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> nmatrix9 in a terminal, type alsamixer see anything unusual?
[21:11] <ablegreen> bekks: None.
[21:11] <daftykins> i bet the first is APIPA :>
[21:11] <nmatrix9> MonkeyDust, cannot find file or directory
[21:12] <bekks> ablegreen: "none" for which part of my question?
[21:12] <ablegreen> bekks: No ip address before attempting to connect to the network
[21:12] <bekks> ablegreen: And after?
[21:13] <ablegreen> bekks: wpa_cli status says it's "Connected" but there's no ip address in ifconfig. Just says "BROADCASTING" or something.
[21:13] <bekks> ablegreen: That doesnt answer my question.
[21:13] <ablegreen> bekks: : No ip address before nor after.
[21:13] <bekks> ablegreen: then your wifi is not providing a DHCP server.
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> nmatrix9 install alsa-utils, then try alsamixer
[21:14] <daftykins> i reckon the timing is just off
[21:14] <ablegreen> bekks: Works fine with my Macbook though?
[21:14] <daftykins> *other laptop
[21:14] <bekks> ablegreen: then how do you get a valid IP on that network?
[21:15] <nmatrix9> MonkeyDust, Hey FYI, I reinstalled my alsa-base, just recently not sure if I should reboot though.
[21:15] <ablegreen> bekks: I just told you earlier. By doing dhclient -r and then dhclient.
[21:15] <ablegreen> On my Macbook, I don't have to do that.
[21:15] <bekks> So name the IP you get after that.
[21:15] <nmatrix9> MonkeyDust, I have alsa-utils installed but I'm reinstalling again.
[21:15] <bekks> Thats what I asked you to do, earlier.
[21:15] <ablegreen> 192.168.10.111
[21:16] <bekks> ablegreen: arent you using NetworkManager for your wifi connection management?
[21:16] <ablegreen> bekks: No this is ubuntu server
[21:17] <bekks> Which is not a valid argument against using NetworkManager.
[21:17] <nmatrix9> MonkeyDust, I'm gonna reboot
[21:18] <ablegreen> bekks: Maybe there is something wrong with the router being configured wrong, idk
[21:19] <daftykins> ablegreen: are you using a hardcoded config in your interfaces file which calls wpa_supplicant to connect from this host?
[21:20] <ablegreen> daftykins: Yes but I use wpa_cli for controlling pa_supplicant to disconnect and connect from certain networks as well
[21:21] <gasfor> hello
[21:22] <AbuDhar> anyone who has a tutorial on how I can get primusrun?
[21:22] <daftykins> ablegreen: try nm-cli
[21:23] <ablegreen> daftykins: Typo? I don't have that command
[21:24] <daftykins> no it wasn't
[21:24] <daftykins> oh no hyphen
[21:24] <ablegreen> daftykins: Looks like it uses network manager, which I'm not using
[21:25] <daftykins> right, which is the basis of my suggestion
[21:25] <daftykins> ...of trying something new!
[21:25] <daftykins> also, servers on wireless make me chuckle
[21:25] <ablegreen> daftykins: Ah okay.
[21:25] <ablegreen> daftykins: If it works, maybe I can look into its source to figure out why I can't get wpa_cli to connect & give me an ip address
[21:26] <ablegreen> Thanks dudes
[21:26] <daftykins> i reckon it's timing
[21:28] <ablegreen> daftykins: Timing between what?
[21:28] <ablegreen> I wonder if nmcli uses wpa_cli
[21:28] <daftykins> network association and DHCP query firing off
[21:29] <daftykins> i'd write a script to associate manually then run dhclient; if it fails and yet works with a brief delay between, you know you're onto something
[21:29] <bekks> I'd just use nm-cli
[21:30] <daftykins> i said that XD
[21:30] <bekks> daftykins: :)
[21:31] * daftykins pats his box of cat6 UTP
[21:31] <ablegreen> daftykins: It already works with manually associating and then using dhclient. The problem is that why do I have to use dhclient? Should just get an ip address automatically like it does with the other network.
[21:31] <ubuntu_noob> hi
[21:32] <ubuntu_noob> i think i broke something
[21:32] <mehmetcengiz> aa
[21:32] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: so fix it :)
[21:32] <ubuntu_noob> haha :)
[21:32] <mehmetcengiz> selam turk var mi?
[21:32] <daftykins> ablegreen: because of what i said. jeez, do you even read :P
[21:32] <bekks> !tr | mehmetcengiz
[21:32] <ubuntu_noob> i want to reinstall ubunut
[21:33] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: Thats not fixing things, thats ignoring problems. :)
[21:33] <ubuntu_noob> i used fdisk to format the drive
[21:33] <ablegreen> daftykins: Oh you said write a *script* with no delay and with a delay. I had been doing it manually via the terminal. Sorry.
[21:33] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: fdisk isnt even able to format something. fdisk partitions things.
[21:33] <ubuntu_noob> okay
[21:33] <daftykins> ablegreen: yeah, obviously you doing it manually takes long enough to work fine
[21:33] <ubuntu_noob> i deleted the three linux entries
[21:33] <ablegreen> ubuntu_noob: Hilarious name.
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> and now the pc doesnt boot ofc
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> grub rescue ...
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> and the ubuntu usb stick doesnt work either
[21:34] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: because you messed with the partitions.
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> i select install but nothing happens
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> yeah
[21:34] <ubuntu_noob> i figured
[21:35] <daftykins> select 'try'
[21:35] <ablegreen> daftykins: What is your hypothesis? That nmcli/network manager has a delay built in?
[21:36] <ubuntu_noob> i messed up the nvidia driver
[21:36] <ubuntu_noob> and then i got deeper into the shit
[21:36] <daftykins> ubuntu_noob: you've come here long enough to know that language is NOT appropriate.
[21:37] <ubuntu_noob> well the things i do on linux arent appropriate either :)
[21:37] <daftykins> ubuntu_noob: i do not care, don't do it.
[21:37] <ablegreen> ubuntu_noob: Do all your experiments in a VM
[21:38] <ubuntu_noob> nevertheless
[21:38] <ubuntu_noob> sorry
[21:38] <ubuntu_noob> whats wrong with the partition then?
[21:38] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: You messed with it. How are we supposed to know what you did with it?
[21:39] <OerHeks> check or make a new bootable usb on the pc you work on, and try again
[21:39] <ubuntu_noob> yes i repeatedly used unetbootin
[21:39] <ubuntu_noob> the first ubuntu installation was succeful
[21:40] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: repeatedly using unetbootin is different from messing around with fdisk, as you meantioned before.
[21:40] <Bray90820> I am getting this error when I try to partition a 4TB drive with disk utility
[21:40] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KrhMWt46
[21:41] <daftykins> Bray90820: use GPT on a 4TB
[21:41] <ubuntu_noob> okay sure
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> 4TB? *drool*
[21:41] <daftykins> pssh, tiny spinning rust :P
[21:41] <Bray90820> MonkeyDust: I have 8TB in the computer
[21:41] <ubuntu_noob> fdisk displayed three partitions
[21:41] <daftykins> no reason for ext2 today imo too
[21:42] <ubuntu_noob> linux extended ...
[21:42] <ubuntu_noob> i deleted all of them
[21:42] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: now you know whats wrong.
[21:42] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: you deleted everything needed for a system to boot.
[21:43] <ubuntu_noob> i see
[21:43] <daftykins> or are we being told that was what was done prior to the second installation?
[21:43] <ubuntu_noob> doesnt the ubuntu installation create a new partition thingy?
[21:44] <bekks> ubuntu_noob: only if you tell it to do so.
[21:44] <ubuntu_noob> there is no second installation yet
[21:44] <AbuDhar> http://pastie.org/10590329
[21:44] <AbuDhar> guys
[21:44] <AbuDhar> when I try to run optirun glxspheres64
[21:44] <AbuDhar> I get that error
[21:44] <daftykins> type on one line, don't keep dancing on the enter key.
[21:44] <Bray90820> daftykins: Thanks you it works now
[21:45] <daftykins> Bray90820: ^_^
[21:45] <daftykins> Bray90820: for reference, i believe MBR has a limit of 3.xTB
[21:45] <ubuntu_noob> bekks how do i tell it to do so?
[21:45] <AbuDhar> daftykins: you don't read it anyway.
[21:46] <Bray90820> daftykins: Well the drive is technically 3.64TB
[21:46] <daftykins> AbuDhar: i do, then i keep thinking to myself again "optimus setups mostly don't let you switch permanently like that" which you ignored earlier, so then i don't reply :)
[21:48] <AbuDhar> lol
[21:59] <AbuDhar> ://///////////
[21:59] <AbuDhar> I hate optimus
[21:59] <AbuDhar> and Nvidia
[21:59] <daftykins> AbuDhar: you know that prime works by using the nvidia chip on a per application basis, right?
[22:00] <daftykins> so you don't need to 'switch'
[22:01] <hubbunny> Hey guys, A question for anyone using ubuntu and snort. I'm trying to pull down rules using pulledpork for my snort installed but I keep getting: but keep getting a "you need to define an oinkcode" error. however as far as I'm aware I've declared my oinkcode in the pulledpork.conf file
[22:01] <AbuDhar> what's the difference betweehn nvidia-352 and nvidia-352-updates?
[22:01] <AbuDhar> between**
[22:01] <AbuDhar> daftykins: I know that. :)
[22:01] <AbuDhar> I don't want to switch.. Right now I just need optirun to work
[22:01] <daftykins> so then why do you fight it?
[22:02] <AbuDhar> I am not fighting man.. I need to get optirun to work so I can start steam with optirun
[22:02] <AbuDhar> or css for that matter
[22:03] <daftykins> i'd be willing to bet they'll pick the right chip auto
[22:04] <AbuDhar> optirun glxspheres
[22:04] <AbuDhar> this gives me errors
[22:04] <AbuDhar> [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0. Please [ 881.442580] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled.
[22:05] <daftykins> and without trying to call optirun?
[22:06] <vicius> ciaoo
[22:06] <AbuDhar> glxspheres: command not found
[22:06] <AbuDhar> oh that worked
[22:06] <vicius> \list
[22:07] <AbuDhar> glxspheres64 worked
[22:07] <AbuDhar> so optirun works or not?
[22:07] <AbuDhar> I don't think it does
[22:07] <AbuDhar> I am so stressed by this. I have tried to fix it all day long.....
[22:07] <daftykins> a framerate should be indicative of that, plus temperature in nvidia-settings
glxspheres: command not found << what about you try it with a command that is installed?
[22:08] <daftykins> glxgears <--- common one provided by mesa-utils
[22:09] <AbuDhar> OpenGL Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile
[22:09] <AbuDhar> So it's not nvidia as you see
[22:09] <AbuDhar> it's the freaking Intel card
[22:12] <AbuDhar> brb
[22:12] <AbuDhar> restarting for 20000th time
[22:24] <OerHeks> thank you for flying #freenode ✈
[22:30] <AbuDhar> daftykins: it still doesn't work ... I cannot do optirun glxgears
[22:31] <daftykins> ah well
[22:32] <AbuDhar> 2 sec. Let me try something else.
[22:35] <OpenSorce> I've been trying all day... can someone tell me how to set the default screen resolution for lightdm?
[22:43] <AbuDhar> daftykins: getting another error now :)
[22:43] <AbuDhar> [ 309.152367] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU, secondary X is not active.
[22:56] <wyoung> hi, I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS installed on a HP Proliant DL320e. When I upgrade kernel to 3.13.0-32 (from 3.13.0-24) my NIC and USB do not work.
[22:57] <daftykins> wyoung: we're already in the -60's so there's no point considering only 32
[22:59] <wyoung> daftykins: 3.13.0-32 is the latest version the RAID drivers support
[22:59] <bekks> wyoung: which driver exactly?
[23:00] <wyoung> bekks: hpvsa
[23:01] <wyoung> (HP Smart Array L120i)
[23:01] <wootehfoot> Hello! Tell me an easy way to acces Chromium's tmp files to copy a cached .flv file.
[23:02] <bekks> There is none.
[23:02] <daftykins> i would doubt changes are great enough to be of concern trying to apply them to newer kernels
[23:02] <goddard> the ubuntu sdk has a memory leak
[23:03] <bekks> daftykins: yes, because its a B320i controller - which is quite ancient.
[23:03] <wyoung> daftykins: I guess I could try although won't that taint the kernel further?
[23:03] <daftykins> either you run up to date or you don't, simples
[23:04] <MWM> do simlinks dissapear after a reboot? can they be made permanent
[23:04] <wyoung> ok I have figured it out! Ineeded to install the extra's package
[23:04] <bekks> MWM: symlinks are permanent.
[23:04] <wyoung> MWM: no, unless they are generated by an application that manages them, like udev for example
[23:05] <daftykins> wyoung: yeah that's where the firmware tends to come from, you should have linux-generic installed so that you aren't playing around with these manual installations
[23:05] <MWM> I made a symlink and observed it to work in xbmc. when I try to view the same directory in a network share from windows, the directory is empty
[23:05] <daftykins> MWM: i bet you're either creating them on an unsupported file system, or you haven't configured samba properly to share them as so - they won't be supported by a Windows host viewing them though i should think.
[23:07] <MWM> windows (7) can see the parent directory but none of the sub directories... does this rule out an improper file syste,? it is ext4 btw
[23:07] <daftykins> example evidence would be a lot better to explain this
[23:09] <MWM> as a matter of fact it can see sub-directories in a non symlinked directory..... Ill bet I have to add the symlinked directory to samba as well.... ill be back if it downst work :D
[23:12] <k1l> !bug | goddard
[23:15] <MWM> hah. somehow the symlinked directories became unmounted. thank you for the help guys
[23:30] <AbuDhar> /usr/bin/vglrun: 246: exec: Counter-Strike Source/: Permission denied
[23:30] <AbuDhar> optirun works now btw
[23:46] <tachys> I have a problem. I copied over my home directory "/home/my_username" from an external hard drive onto my existing Ubuntu installation's home directory. Now for some reason I can't open Firefox nor the terminal, even when I search for it or use ctrl + alt + t.
[23:47] <tachys> It looks like if I click any of the icons on the left, none of them open anything.
[23:47] <tachys> except for files.
[23:47] <k1l> tachys: what is "ls -al" in that homefolder? does it name your username on the owner and group?
[23:47] <compdoc> ubuntu update broke my virt-manager :(
[23:47] <daftykins> i'd bet the files are still owned as root, "ls -al /home/username/" to confirm
[23:48] <tachys> I don't have a terminal, so I can't check that.
[23:48] <Sonderblade> is it just me or dae have trouble connecting to the chat.freenode.net server?
[23:48] <k1l> tachys: another user on that system besides guest account?
[23:48] <[n0mad]> Sonderblade: there's currently some issues
[23:48] <k1l> Sonderblade: they are under ddos. more infos in #freenode
[23:48] <inteus> Sonderblade: freenode has been getting DDoS'd lately
[23:49] <daftykins> tachys: can from TTY1, ctrl+alt+F1
[23:49] <tachys> No, I just reinstalled ubuntu, then spent half the day copying files over from the external HDD to my new ubuntu isntallation's drive at /home/my_username
[23:49] <daftykins> where there's a will, there's a way.
[23:49] <tachys> daftykins: yes that works!
[23:49] <daftykins> right so run the above.
[23:49] <Sonderblade> inteus, no0mad: so it's not just me, you also have the problem?
[23:50] <tachys> daftykins: nope, they are all owned my my_username
[23:50] <daftykins> Sonderblade: ask in #freenode - nothing to do with ubuntu.
[23:50] <k1l> tachys: "sudo chown -R user:user /home/user/" replace user with your exact username
[23:50] <daftykins> tachys: how are the perms?
[23:51] <tachys> k1l: I've already done that. owner and group are user:user
[23:52] <tachys> daftykins: there are several different files permissions, but those all look as expected.
[23:53] <tachys> How do I get out of the tty mode?
[23:53] <tachys> back to desktop.
[23:53] <daftykins> F7
[23:53] <daftykins> so you ran it before you actually checked?
[23:54] <tachys> daftykins: no, i ran it when I copied over the files to the external HDD.
[23:54] <daftykins> that's not relevant
[23:54] <tachys> daftkins: ok I will do it
[23:55] <daftykins> do what, i didn't suggest anything...
[23:55] <rypervenche> k1l did.
[23:55] * daftykins slow claps
[23:55] <tachys> daftykins: sorry, I thought you suggested the ""sudo chown -R user:user /home/user/" replace user with your exact username"
[23:56] <alonso> hello
[23:56] <tachys> OK so that doesn't do anything, none of the programs (firefox, terminal, gedit) work.
[23:56] <tachys> OK I gtg thanks for the help.
[23:56] <rypervenche> tachys: Did you try...nvm...
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-java
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[06:55] <sm_art> hello
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:37] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • forum.ubuntu网站，怎么了？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474116 ？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-29 8:36
[01:47] <^k^> 新 深度PK版 • “机顶盒”事件之后，你还敢支持国产系统吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474117 有段时间没有来论坛逛了，今天一打开“查看新帖”，竟然发现还有无数“爱国人士”都在鼓励发展“国产系统”？我只说一句，前些日子的“机顶盒”强制屏蔽顾客软件的事
[01:47] <^k^> ─> 情都知道吧。一个在安卓基础上制作出来的机顶盒操作系统，可以在不经过用户同意的情 …
[01:56] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS • 用什么命令，查看DNS服务器IP？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474118 ？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-29 9:56
[02:46] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS • 怎样安装goagen? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474119 autoproxy+goagen zz: Qubun — 2015-11-29 10:43
[03:37] <sennn> hi
[03:37] <ubrl> sennn:点点点. 11:39
[03:37] <sennn> 你好
[03:40] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[04:53] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS • autoproxy问题？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474120 1.有些网站，状态是：全局模式，浏览不了。 而，状态是：自动模式，反而可以浏览。 如：forum.ubuntu.org.cn 为什么？ 2.有些网站，状态是，什么模式，都浏览不了。 如：www.google.com zz: Qubun — 2015-11-29 12:52
[06:58] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 求助:ubuntu grub2硬盘安装kubuntu15.10.64位后,无kubuntu启动项 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474122 网上找半天没找到什么解决方案,只好来求助了,最多说到其它其它的grub配置文件里把相关菜单信息复制到现在系统的grub菜单配置里,但配置里太乱了,不知道复制哪些 本
[08:05] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • 使用 gedit 里的 python console 如何访问编辑窗口的内容？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474123 我想做这样一件事：把一篇文章粘贴到 gedit 里，将其中所有半角标点符号替换为全角。用 replace 要做很多遍。 正好看到 gedit 有个 python console，我希
[08:05] <^k^> ─> 望写个脚本来执行这些替换。 问题是，我在 python console 里怎么访问编辑窗口里的文字？ …
[08:25] <sennn> 有人嗎?
[08:38] <sennn> hi
[08:38] <ubrl> sennn:点点点. 16:41
[08:52] <^k^> 新 Shell脚本 • 这个tar命令应如何正确使用？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474124 tar -zcPf /tmp/back.tar.gz /home/backup cp /tmp/back.tar.gz /mnt/back.tar.gz 对 /mnt/back.tar.gz解压出现问题 Untitled.jpg 请问，如何解决？原因是什么？ zz: pengsir — 2015-11-29 16:52
[10:32] <pocmon> 为什么每次升级FFmpeg file format library和Linux container runtime这两个包项都不能选？？？？
[10:57] <^k^> 新 其它类软件 • gnome-terminal程序调用的时候，如果多次调用能不能是打开标签页，而不是新开一个窗口 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474127 工作需要，每次程序调用的时候都是新开一个窗口，而不是在原窗口中打开一个标签。这个可以通过设置实现吗？还是需要别的终端才
[10:57] <^k^> ─> 可以？求指导。 zz: gxowei — 2015-11-29 18:56
[12:40] <Yehai> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4863609044
[12:40] <ubrl> Yehai: ⇪ Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results
[13:08] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i2.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M04/00/08/Cg-4WFI2p1eIcn3eAAC26zEtMAAAALrEACXB2IAALcD208.jpg 同桌的你
[13:39] <Freebuilder> 头天手机进水，次日平板进水，囧
[13:46] <Freebuilder> https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-12906141936.40.knk7E8&id=521211059603 这键盘爽，大回车
[13:47] <ubrl> Freebuilder: ⇪ 清华同方正品 复古台式机键盘 PS2圆口USB方口游戏电脑键盘白色-淘宝网全球站 pp: ¥ 29.00 - 34.00
[14:13] <panpane0r> topic
[14:15] <panpane0r> channel
[14:15] <Lsigua> 这玩意怎么用阿 怎么没人说话呢
[14:16] <panpane0r> 我也是刚进来
[14:17] <Lsigua> hello
[14:17] <ubrl> Lsigua:点点点. 22:19
[14:17] <panpane0r> 这个跟频道跟ubuntu有什么关系
[14:19] <Freebuilder> 啥？
[14:30] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • lp 打印问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474128 lp 怎么逆序打印，不会弄 zz: byh135402 — 2015-11-29 21:51
[23:57] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 双网卡，一个用来共享网络，结果无法上网 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=474130 机子装的ubuntu 15.04 有两个网卡：一个有线eth0一个无线wlan0。 无线可以连外网，所以就用无线网卡连接外网，然后用brctl 做了个网桥br1，把eth0 和wlan0桥接到一起，再
[23:57] <^k^> ─> 在eth0 上连个路由，其他设备连接这个路由就可以正常上网了 但是问题来了，共享网络这 …
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-devel
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[00:15] <goddard> juliank: thanks ill keep waiting
[15:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Is there a Unity 8 preview image for 16.04 LTS?
[23:04] <goddard> the ubuntu sdk in qt creator has a memory leak
[23:04] <goddard> it makes the IDE crash
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"SonikkuAmerica",
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-ops
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[18:03] <bazhang> [blb31750] ([email protected]): /home/alex/bin/irclogbot.sh
[18:04] <ikonia> this guy again
[18:04] <bazhang> wonder if thats a logbot
what do you do her in #ubuntu technical support channel ???
[18:34] <bazhang> mostly play with the bot
[18:34] <ikonia> so he knows what the channel is then ?
[18:35] <bazhang> sure, thats a longtime visitor
[18:36] <ikonia> why do they behave like this and play dumb ?
[18:36] <bazhang> from #ubuntu-dz or whatever the kazeri channel is
[18:36] <bazhang> he's always been that way
[18:37] <bazhang> had to track him to his loco ubuntu channel and ask the ops there to ban him unless he quit the trolling
[18:37] <bazhang> err azerbaijan
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-arm
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[02:39] <flyn4x4web> hello room, I am having some problems today trying to update and upgrade my banana-pi running Ubuntu 15.04. seems like a connectivity issue. Do anyone know of more reliable server to use other than ports.ubuntu.com
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"flyn4x4web"
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-cm
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[16:03] <jeandematha> salut
[16:03] <jeandematha> je suis new user ubuntu-cm
[16:03] <jeandematha> :-)
[16:20] <ariado> Welcome !
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2015-11-29-#kubuntu
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[02:53] <Canon> Hello all... I am trying to scan an external drive with rkhunter... and ideas
[03:18] <wfreeman> I have just installed kubuntu 15.10 and the system boots to a black desktop with a mouse cursor; no KDE panels, desktop, etc. are visible. How can I fix this?
[03:18] <wfreeman> I can run commands with alt-f2 but that's it,.
[03:34] <finetundra> wfreeman: What have you tried so far?
[03:43] <nolsen> What the hell.
[03:44] <nolsen> welp, got to hardshutdown kubuntu again
[03:44] <nolsen> Because I can't even escape hexchat.
[03:44] <nolsen> oh, nvm. but my taskbar is gone xD
[03:47] <nolsen> My taskbar is ded: http://i.imgur.com/wJ4bpkI.png
[04:13] <finetundra> nolsen: ctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo poweroff, insert password
[05:36] <Canon> hello all
[05:37] <Canon> whats the package that minicom is in
[11:16] <lordievader> !info minicom
[11:16] <lordievader> Hmm, guess I'm a bit late.
[11:58] <benve> !list
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:49] <Guest53458> Hi, do anyone knows a openpgp help channel?
[13:12] <lordievader> I'm sure alis does.
[13:12] <lordievader> !alis
[13:53] <jubo2> hi
[13:53] <jubo2> I have a Lenovo X201 1st generation i5
[13:54] <jubo2> it overheats, a lot whenever I boot into Kubuntu
[13:54] <jubo2> 'sudo sensors-detect' show an Intel-made sensor unit that has been assigned to 'coretemp' driver
[13:55] <jubo2> With no load on CPU it goes to 80'ish and with load it goes to 90's till shutdown from temperature alarm trigger level reached
[13:56] <jubo2> Waits for someone to say "Just boot it to Windows if it works so fine there."
[14:00] <lordievader> How dusty is your machine?
[14:12] <jubo2> lordievader: I'm not very interested in that
[14:12] <jubo2> One of my key concerns is that the Intel-buit thermal sensor apprears to be lying
[14:13] <jubo2> that or something or someone is injecting voltage peaks or summ shit like that to the CPU
[14:13] <jubo2> Windows runs ~ 57C plus minus 2
[14:14] <jubo2> Kubuntu runs 85-90 plus minus 11C
[14:14] <jubo2> enough to force shutdown
[14:15] <jubo2> the peaks and valleys can be like 15-20C
[14:15] <jubo2> the shit doesn't make any sense or Intel Corporation hates me
[14:15] <lordievader> jubo2: It could explain why it reports 90 on idle...
[14:16] <jubo2> There are newer governors available for Sandy and Ivy Bridge and later
[14:17] <jubo2> Here instructions to install and activate Intel P-State governor for Sandy Bridge and later systems
[14:17] <jubo2> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/prevent-your-laptop-from-overheating.html
[14:19] <jubo2> I'm going to get 23nm litography system next
[14:19] <jubo2> one that supports 3 displays and 32GB RAM
[14:21] <jubo2> not that I'll ever need to put more than 16GB
[14:21] <lordievader> Bit offtopic.. don't you think?
[14:21] <jubo2> That runs 2 OS and bunch off apliance servers
[14:21] <jubo2> lordievader: Yea
[14:21] <jubo2> So
[14:21] <jubo2> I boot the system to windows because Kubuntu cannot handle something
[14:22] <lordievader> Does a live-cd have the same problem? Also which version of Kubuntu?
[14:22] <jubo2> Kubuntu15.10
[14:23] <jubo2> I have never installed Psensor in Live-CD but it has never shutdown from overheating
[14:23] <jubo2> Maybe I should
[14:24] <lordievader> What temperatures does the live cd report?
[14:24] <jubo2> I reboot the X201 to Live CD now
[14:28] <jubo2> now apt installing it
[14:28] <jubo2> ok. now Psensor started
[14:28] <lordievader> You don't need to give updates at every action ;)
[14:30] <jubo2> What? No action commentary by jubo-jubo required for channel comfort
[14:30] <lordievader> No, saves the both of us time.
[14:33] <jubo2> temperature is stable at 66C plusminus 2 degrees
[14:35] <jubo2> now 70C when I put some youtube playing
[14:36] <lordievader> Right, so your install does something that either really gets the temp up or, like you said, the reporting is wrong. How is the cpu utilization in your install?
[14:37] <jubo2> It appears to vary only 1C up or down now ~ 70C
[14:37] <jubo2> should I 'sudo apt install stress' ?
[14:39] <lordievader> For the live env? Sure would tell you more.
[14:39] <jubo2> 2 CPU hogs
[14:39] <jubo2> TEMP GOES UPPPP
[14:39] <lordievader> 2 cores no hyper threading?
[14:39] <jubo2> 2 cores 2 threads per core
[14:39] <jubo2> The fan controller is not doing it's job
[14:40] <jubo2> 4,000RPM
[14:40] <jubo2> and shutdown
[14:40] <lordievader> So why not --cpu 4? Anyhow that is besides the point. I'll ask my first question again, how dusty is the machine?
[14:41] <jubo2> not externally
[14:41] <jubo2> P-;
[14:41] <lordievader> ...
[14:42] <lordievader> How old is the laptop?
[14:42] <jubo2> 4 yrs
[14:42] <lordievader> Hmm, there is a chance the cooling paste hardened.
[14:42] <jubo2> I got cooling paste
[14:43] <jubo2> It is just very very complicated to get to the cooling fan
[14:43] <jubo2> you have to strip even the mainboard and the display before you can access it
[14:44] <lordievader> I know. So first make sure your machine is dust free. Get a can of compressed air and blow out the heatsink.
[14:50] <jubo2> lordievader: I got compressed air
[14:50] <jubo2> into the heatsink without removing it?
[14:50] <jubo2> machine on or off?
[14:51] <lordievader> Off, ofcourse.
[14:59] <jubo2> food time
[15:18] <jubo2> Finally figured how to operate the pressure air can
[15:25] <jubo2> It seems to be running cooler no
[15:26] <jubo2> *now
[15:26] <jubo2> has peaked at 78C moderate load
[15:35] <lordievader> Lots of dust came out?
[15:36] <clivejo> dust would cause over heating :/
[15:37] <jubo2> some dust came out
[17:25] <yotux> is there a way to get icons in kmymoney2?
[17:39] <yotux> anyone else having icon problems in 15.10
[17:53] <mparillo> I had icon problems on my favorites when I upgraded (I believe they moved or something), but not on a fresh install.
[17:55] <yotux> I have missing icons on the fav menu and in kmymoney, when I change icon themes some icons come back
[17:56] <yotux> wondering if reseting the .kde folder would be useful
[18:56] <Draggin> Good evening! I've put this off for a long time, since I have this laptop and could go on with work, but I've severely messed up my desktop machine during an Ubuntu upgrade, and I'm not even sure where to start. I was running Kubuntu Utopic for a very long time and ifnally decided to upgrade to Vivid, but my machine is a little the worse for wear after doing so. It still boots, all services etc. work. I can log in from command line, but there seems to be
[18:56] <Draggin> an absolute tonne of broken dependencies and X doesn't start, no matter what. It's an old machine - Pentium IV, 2.4GHz with 2GB RAM and an old nVidia 6200 AGP card (which I suspect is where the issues started).
[18:57] <Draggin> Which logs do I start looking at?
[19:22] <lordievader> Wow, didn't think I'd ever see the 6200 again. What driver are you using for it?
[19:25] <Draggin> Haha! lordievader - I was using the nVidia 304 drivers, but I've been mucking around now trying to get the machine back up and running, so at the moment, I've purged nvidia
[19:25] <lordievader> I'm pretty sure that the closed source drivers dropped support for it a long time ago.
[19:25] <lordievader> Does a live cd work with it?
[19:27] <Draggin> Does a live CD work with the graphics card?
[19:28] <Draggin> Haven't actually tested recently... Let me see if I have one lying around nearby
[19:28] <clivejo> might have to use the nomodeset option
[19:29] <Draggin> But lordievader - it *was* quite a mission to get the graphics card up and running. I had to end up using a different driver to the one recommended by Ubuntu itself
[19:30] <lordievader> Oh, I bet. And even if you do get it working, you don't want to work with it...
[19:30] <Draggin> clivejo, I was using that
[19:30] <clivejo> sometimes upgrades lose it
[19:31] <clivejo> have you double checked its still being passed to the kernel?
[19:31] <Draggin> lordievader, at this point, I'm less concerned with getting the nVidia drivers up and running than just being able to boot into my machine normally again :) I'll worry about the drivers later.
[19:32] <Draggin> I figured I'd like to be able to get into Kubuntu properly again, then upgrade to the latest release
[19:32] <lordievader> That wasn't what I meant. It will be slow as heck :P
[19:32] <lordievader> Anyhow, with the nouveau driver you might have a chance.
[19:32] <Draggin> clivejo, not sure how to do that, but like I said, I've actually purged all nVidia stuff at the moment, but Nouveau isn't booting the system either.
[19:34] <Draggin> Well, believe it or not, I was actually using this machine for limited gaming o_O and it worked beautifully (on some games). But now the machine is close to being a brick. And I don't have enough external storage space to do a full backup and rerun a clean install, so I'd like to try and fix it
[19:35] <lordievader> Are the drive(s) Sata?
[19:35] <lordievader> If so, you can then just transfer them to a newer machine ;)
[19:36] <Draggin> Oh… The hard drive situation, yes... Need to fill you in on that, I think
[19:38] <yotux> I think he has old IDE drives
[19:39] <Draggin> Oh - something I should probably also mention (and an error that I've seen pop up here and there) is that I'm running this machine on a WD Blue Advanced Format 1TB drive using GPT (that's what it's called, right...? As in not MBR) Took me two days to read up about properly initialising, formatting and installing it, but it's worked beautifully ever since. Now, I seem to be getting error messages possibly relating to that
[19:40] <Draggin> I see messages about sda1 VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem, qnx4 no qnx4 filesystem (no root dir), ufs: you didn't specify the type of your ufs filesystem.
[19:43] <lordievader> Where do you see those messages?
[19:44] <Draggin> terminal
[19:46] <lordievader> Sure, but where? Reading logs, at boot, etc?
[19:48] <Draggin> No - it's being output to the screen during the process
[19:48] <lordievader> During what process?
[19:48] <Draggin> That's why I asked what logs and things I should be looking at - I have no idea where to start troubleshooting this mess
[19:48] <Draggin> lordievader, during an apt-get
[19:48] <lordievader> Wut? That is really strange...
[19:49] <lordievader> Good logs for this kind of things is the syslog, kern and dmesg logs.
[19:49] <Draggin> Oh - the other thing that happens (after getting rid of nVidia), when I boot, I see the kubuntu loader screen, but immediately afterwards, it gets stuck on a screen that just says "starting version 219" in the top left corner. Nothing else happening. I have to ctrl+alt+f1 to get to another tty to be able to log in to do anything
[19:50] <Draggin> Okay. lordievader - they're all in /var/log?
[19:51] <lordievader> Yes, that is where the logs go.
[19:52] <Draggin> I do see a sda3 re-mounted opts: errors=remount-ro message in the kern.log...
[19:53] <lordievader> Time to check your disks.
[19:54] <Draggin> That's fsck, right...?
[19:57] <lordievader> Yes. But you likely need a live-cd for it. Or at least I guess the root-fs is on sda3.
[19:58] <Draggin> Can confirm that - the root filesystem is on sda3 according to fstab
[19:58] <Draggin> Where can I see *what* errors caused it to be remounted as RO
[20:00] <lordievader> A read/write error...
[20:00] <Draggin> lordievader, I also just got these same messages in the terminal when I ran sudo update-grub
[20:00] <lordievader> I bet.
[20:00] <lordievader> It is time to fsck and check the smart data.
[20:00] <lordievader> I suspect a failing disk.
[20:00] <kaddi_> Smurphy, just wanted to let you know that the bluetooth is working now.. Not sure what happened, I tried to fix it for an entire day.. the next day I booted and the bluetooth was automatically detected
[20:00] <Draggin> Why the need for a live CD? Can't I run fsck here?
[20:01] <lordievader> No, fsck requires the filesystem to be unmounted/unused.
[20:01] <kaddi> still don't know what happened, but it wasn't a defective device in the end
[20:02] <Draggin> Ohhh, I see... Darn
[20:02] <lordievader> You can check the smart data in your install though.
[20:03] <Draggin> I have a Knoppix disc here somewhere, let me dig
[20:03] <lordievader> Install smartmontools if smartctl ain't available, else: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[20:03] <lordievader> !pastebin
[20:17] <Draggin> lordievader, https://paste.kde.org/ppmbaeeln
[20:20] <lordievader> Apart from the command_timeout it looks to be in good-health.
[20:21] <Draggin> I have no idea how to read that output :)
[20:21] <Draggin> This drive is less than a year old though, so it shouldn't have problems, really...
[20:24] <lordievader> Well, the important part are the reallocated sectors and pending sectors (these should be zero). Also anything with error in the tile (these should be as low as possible).
[20:26] <Draggin> What are all those "pre-fail" and "old-age" headings?
[20:28] <Draggin> lordievader, so what now…? fsck?
[20:30] <lordievader> Yes.
[20:30] <lordievader> Draggin: Those pre-fail/old-age you can ignore. Even new drives have those labels...
[20:31] <Draggin> Phew... Was just worrying there...
[20:33] <Draggin> Kay. I'll have to go read up on fsck then and find a bloody live CD in my mess somewhere
[20:46] <Draggin> lordievader, thanks for your assistance thus far.
[20:46] <lordievader> No problem.
[20:46] <Draggin> I'm going to have to get to bed though. Hopefully I can locate one of my live CDs tomorrow and see if fsck turns up something
[20:46] <Draggin> thanks again :)
[20:46] <Draggin> Good night!
[21:16] <hudsonkem> kde plasma 5.4.2 and 5.4.3, cannt change desktop layout to folder view.
[21:19] <hudsonkem> sorry my mistake, forgot to unlock widgets -_-
[23:48] <Carol> how can I download Kubuntu 15.04?
[23:49] <Carol> I want to put it in my pendrive
[23:49] <Carol> anyone can tell me? I see no links to download it anywhere
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2015-11-29-#snappy
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[16:32] <tsimonq2> ogra_: is there a more up-to-date release of Snappy that I can download? Maybe 15.10 or Xenial? The tutorial just says 15.04
[16:32] <ogra_> you can use rolling (xenial based) when you build your own image with ubuntu-device-flash
[16:33] <tsimonq2> ogra_: how?
[16:34] <tsimonq2> ogra_: and isn't there just an equivelent to do-release-upgrade in snappy?
[16:34] <ogra_> updates are installed automatically when new images are released by default
[16:35] <ogra_> (you can turn that off with "snappy config ubuntu-core" if you do not want that)
[16:35] <tsimonq2> oh, so could I just do snappy update and it will automatically be rolling then?
[16:35] <ogra_> but they will only remain within the channel you originally instaleld
[16:35] <ogra_> no
[16:35] <ogra_> if you use a 15.04 image it will auto-update if there i a new 15..04
[16:35] <ogra_> you wont be able to switch over to the rolling channel
[16:36] <ogra_> (thins might change once we dropped all of system-image)
[16:37] <tsimonq2> ogra_: so there is NO way whatsoever to switch the channel? No sources.list change?
[16:37] <ogra_> not currently, no
[16:37] <tsimonq2> oh, ok
[16:37] <ogra_> as i said, that will likely change once we dropped system-image
[16:37] <tsimonq2> ogra_: is there a download link for a rolling amd64 image?
[16:37] <ogra_> no, there is no such thing, you have to create one yourself
[16:37] <ogra_> sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --channel=edge --oem=generic-amd64 -o test.img rolling
[16:38] <ogra_> that should get you one
[16:38] <ogra_> (probably add --install=webdm)
[16:38] <ogra_> (and --enable-ssh)
[16:40] <Guest74213> tsimonq2, tsimonq2 it doesn't work on xenial, try on 14.04 Determining oem configuration
[16:40] <Guest74213> generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found
[16:40] <tsimonq2> Guest74213: I just did sudo apt -y install snappy
[16:41] <tsimonq2> oh...but one removes the other
[16:41] <Guest74213> :>]
[16:41] <tsimonq2> ogra_! what packages do I need installed for this? I am running xenial
[16:41] <ogra_> just ubuntu-device-flash should be enough ... it should pull the needed dependencies
[16:41] <Guest74213> ogra_, it doesn't work on xenial
[16:42] <tsimonq2> ogra_: this is what I am getting: generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found
[16:42] <Guest74213> yes, me 2
[16:42] <ogra_> try adding https://launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+archive/ubuntu/image
[16:42] <tsimonq2> ok, trying now
[16:43] <ogra_> seems the last snappy upload FTBFS
[16:43] <ogra_> so it might be uninstallable atm
[16:43] <ogra_> (xenial is a devel release after all :P )
[16:44] <tsimonq2> ogra_: what do I have to do after the ppa? the package is already installed
[16:45] <Guest74213> The following packages will be upgraded:
[16:45] <Guest74213> golang-snappy-dev ubuntu-snappy-cli
[16:46] <Guest74213> Warning: The home dir /nonexistent you specified can't be accessed: No such file or directory
[16:46] <Guest74213> The system user `snappypkg' already exists. Exiting.
[16:46] <Guest74213> and the same error
[16:46] <tsimonq2> it went fine for me...
[16:46] <Guest74213> oh
[16:46] <Guest74213> so can you make the image now?
[16:46] <tsimonq2> nope
[16:47] <tsimonq2> still the same error
[16:47] <Guest74213> yeah :'(
[16:47] <tsimonq2> I'm wondering if I should just pull up a 14.04 VM and build it there, then transfer it over
[16:47] <tsimonq2> (to the host system)
[16:47] * tsimonq2 trys that
[16:49] <Guest74213> tsimonq2, after that try to install this snap https://uappexplorer.com/app/classic.mvo
[16:50] <Guest74213> tsimonq2, https://uappexplorer.com/app/classic.mvo
[16:50] <Guest74213> sorry
[16:50] <Guest74213> tsimonq2, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-November/001290.html
[16:50] <tsimonq2> well stahp, let me get it installed first jeez us
[16:58] <Guest74213> :D
[16:58] <Guest74213> by all
[16:58] <tsimonq2> I have the Lubuntu 14.04.3 VM ready
[16:58] <tsimonq2> so what do I install?
[17:05] <ogra_> you enable the above PPA and install ubuntu-device-flash
[17:08] * tsimonq2 met dependency errors and got frustrated, so he is going to give in to just using 15.04 for now
[17:33] <tsimonq2> ogra_: looking to build a snap for irssi, is it easy enough to just port it, or do I have to tweak it a lot?
[17:33] <tsimonq2> ogra_: and what do I do abou dependencies?
[17:33] <tsimonq2> *about
[17:34] <ogra_> create a snapcraft file, it will care for the deps any everything
[17:34] <tsimonq2> ok
[17:35] <ogra_> (for that you want to install snapcraft indeed ... there is some PPA for it too)
[17:40] <tsimonq2> already installed
[17:46] <tsimonq2> ogra_: following https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/packaging-format-apps/, running "snapcraft" in my irssi directory that I created with my snapcraft.yaml file just outputs that I am missing the parts property, but it isn't listed on that link. What's the reason?
[17:46] <ogra_> dunno, someone didnt update the docs yet ?
[17:47] <tsimonq2> oh
[17:47] <ogra_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/+junk/ircproxy/files
[17:47] <ogra_> take a look at that snapcraft.yaml
[17:48] <ogra_> at the bottom you see the packages it is supposed to install
[17:48] <ogra_> so create your own parts block :)
[17:48] * tsimonq2 already found it here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/build-apps/your-first-snap/
[17:48] <tsimonq2> but thanks :)
[17:49] <tsimonq2> so I just need to list ALL of the dependencies?
[17:59] <tsimonq2> ogra_: ok, so irssi is on Github and requires some dependencies, is there any way that I could just clone it from Github, then add/edit some config files, and it will work?
[18:00] <tsimonq2> ogra_: or will it require a complete rewrite?
[18:18] <ogra_> tsimonq2, i think thats easy, but i have never done it ... my packages usually just use debs from the archive
[18:18] <ogra_> you dont need to llist any dependencies
[18:18] <tsimonq2> ogra_: well irssi IS in the repos, so I COULD do THAT too
[18:19] <ogra_> see my file above ... it onnly defines bip and openssl
[18:19] <ogra_> deps are pulled automatically into the snap
[18:20] <tsimonq2> oh cool
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-za
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[12:40] <inetpro> good evening
[12:41] <gremble> Hey inetpro
[12:41] <inetpro> hi gremble
[12:42] <gremble> How are you?
[12:43] <inetpro> good, good and yourself
[12:43] <inetpro> just hot again today
[12:43] <gremble> Struggling to get music to listen to
[12:44] <gremble> Tried soundcloud, but the music is mostly shit there. Tried last.fm now, but they don't have music anymore
[12:44] <gremble> You have to listen through spotify or youtube
[12:45] <gremble> I miss grooveshark
[13:22] <inetpro> wb MaNI
[13:23] <inetpro> gremble: maybe MaNI knows?
[13:23] <inetpro> MaNI: <gremble> Struggling to get music to listen to
Tried soundcloud, but the music is mostly shit there. Tried last.fm now, but they don't have music anymore
[13:24] * inetpro just tunes to Jacaranda on radio for music
[13:24] <gremble> Sies
[13:24] <inetpro> lol
[13:24] <gremble> On an unrelated matter. I made a smiley using only nasm
[13:25] <inetpro> nasm?
[13:25] <gremble> netwide assembly
[13:25] <inetpro> yikes!
[13:26] <inetpro> how many lines?
[13:27] <gremble> 13loc
[13:27] <gremble> It is just a small alteration of "Your very first program" from a tutorial that I am doing
[13:27] <gremble> :P
[13:27] <inetpro> sounds like fun
[13:27] <gremble> I am trying to see how impressively I can break it before I move on
[13:28] <gremble> I've had it print arbitrary memory locations XD
[18:34] <kulelu88> yo gremble
[18:36] <gremble> Hey kulelu88
[18:36] <gremble> How are you?
[18:36] <kulelu88> all good and you mate?
[18:37] <gremble> I am well thank you
[18:37] <gremble> passed 2 of my 3 exams so far
[18:38] <gremble> so all is well
[18:58] <magespawn> good evening
[18:59] <gremble> Hey magespawn
[18:59] <gremble> How are you doing today?
[18:59] <magespawn> good and you gremble
[18:59] <magespawn> ?
[19:00] <gremble> I am well thank you
[19:06] <magespawn> struggling with the fact that in the 21st, i still have to manually enter computer generated information into a computer
[19:06] <gremble> That is pretty funny. Write a script to do it?
[19:07] <magespawn> unfortunately most of it is on paper
[19:08] <gremble> Oh, that is quite awkward
[19:08] <gremble> haha
[19:09] <magespawn> computer generated invoices, why we still need them is beyond me, the paper version that is
[19:10] <MaNI> because accountants are terrified (rightfully so) that they will be replaced by computers entirely
[19:11] <MaNI> the sooner this happens the better of course :p
[19:19] <kulelu88> congrats gremble
[19:19] <kulelu88> magespawn: if you're keen, you can use a tech that scans documents in paper form and then captures text from it
[19:20] <gremble> kulelu88: Thanks :P
[19:22] <magespawn> thanks kulelu88 no scanner at home though. and a lot of the invoices are not on standard paper
[19:23] <kulelu88> as long as you're getting paid for it magespawn :)
[19:23] <magespawn> good typing practice at least
[19:34] * Cryterion hates paperwork, it's gets lost all the time
[19:35] <Cryterion> oh and hi everyone
[19:44] <kulelu88> yo Cryterion
[19:44] <gremble> Hey Cryterion
[20:04] <magespawn> hi Cryterion
[23:40] <kuelelu> yo grenobyl my IRC is not working locally :/
[23:41] <grenobyl> So it only works internationally?
[23:42] <kuelelu> aah no I mean on my machine. xchat fails
[23:42] <grenobyl> Oh
[23:42] <kuelelu> the previous connection stalled
[23:42] <grenobyl> xchat is orphaned iirc
[23:42] <grenobyl> try hexchat
[23:42] <grenobyl> or irssi/weechat
[23:43] <kuelelu> you sure its orphaned? why does ubuntu install it as default :/
[23:43] <grenobyl> Latest news: 28-Aug-2010
[23:44] <grenobyl> That shit is orphaned
[23:44] <kuelelu> holy smokes
[23:44] <grenobyl> Even wikipedia mentiones it in the past tense
[23:44] <grenobyl> :P
[23:45] <grenobyl> The official XChat software had been discontinued since 2012, with development moving largely to forks such as HexChat.[2][3]
[23:45] <grenobyl> from wikipedia
[23:47] <kuelelu> darn
[23:47] <kuelelu> darn darn darn
[23:47] <kuelelu> I need to get a new IRC client
[23:48] <grenobyl> hexchat. It is practically the same. There is just 'he' in front of the name
[23:48] <kuelelu> installing hexchat is the issue (IIRC)
[23:53] <kuelelu> looks like it must be another issue, cause hexchat doesn't work either
[23:53] <grenobyl> Oh
[23:53] <kuelelu> we'll speak tomorrow :P
[23:54] <kuelelu> o/
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2015-11-29-#kubuntu-devel
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[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:36] <clivejo> valorie: ping
[16:51] <sgclark> clivejo: I suspect valorie will still be asleep for some time yet.
[16:51] <clivejo> asleep?
[16:51] <clivejo> where is she?
[16:59] <sgclark> clivejo: we are both west coast US. But she stays up insanely late.
[17:21] <clivejo> now unstable
[17:21] <clivejo> what does that mean?!?
[17:22] <clivejo> sgclark: oh so its only morning for you now?
[17:22] <clivejo> I thought you guys were east coast, so only about 5 hours behind
[17:23] <sgclark> it is 920 am
[17:24] <clivejo> ah 8 hours behind
[20:53] <clivejo> sgclark: do you know why the i386 build of kdeconnect-plasma is failing in xenial?
[20:53] <clivejo> Buildlog - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227923544/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-i386.kdeconnect-plasma_0.9%2Bgit20151129.1550%2B16.04-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:59] <sgclark> clivejo: at first glance you have a dependency problem. It looks like frameworks is your problem. I dunno where you are pulling them from. With that said, that is all I can say today. Sundays are my only day that I try to claim work free.
[21:01] <clivejo> I cant figure out why it builds in amd64, but not in i386
[21:02] <sgclark> i386 is much slower. sometime stuff fails because deps are not built yet. Make sure the ppa does not have i386 failed builds is where I would start
[21:02] <clivejo> its the KCI PPA's
[21:02] <sgclark> uhh yeah, then that is your problem.
[21:03] <sgclark> there is broken stuff in there atm.
[21:03] <sgclark> fixing it would likely fix your issue.
[21:03] <sgclark> I will work on that tomorrow, but not today. >.<
[21:04] <clivejo> the KCI has so many errors, I cant see where the problem is
[21:05] <sgclark> well I am staarting debian merges tomorrow, should clear it all up. But not till tomorrow... sorry
[21:05] <clivejo> ok
[21:55] <valorie> clivejo: I think I tested it all....
[21:55] <clivejo> 2.9.9?
[21:56] <valorie> yes
[21:56] <valorie> last night
[21:56] <clivejo> any issues?
[21:56] <valorie> I told my issues in the PM
[21:57] <clivejo> I logged off
[21:57] <valorie> some of the components still have that weird "I can't save this" error
[21:57] <valorie> ah
[21:57] <valorie> 01:25] <valorie> so, same crap with saving in Words 2.9.9, but somehow I got it to save
[21:57] <valorie> [01:25] <valorie> what an icky bug that is
[21:57] <valorie> [01:32] <valorie> and open, and not automatically in lo either
[21:57] <valorie> [01:33] <valorie> perhaps I don't have LO installed?
[21:57] <valorie> [01:33] <valorie> yup, that's it
[21:57] <valorie> [01:42] <valorie> stage works, no problem saving, and oddly, I do have LO even though apt-cache policy says no....
[21:57] <valorie> [01:45] <valorie> sheets still doesn't save the text I added, but maybe I'm doing it wrong
[21:58] <valorie> [01:45] <valorie> even in sheets it doesn't show
[21:58] <valorie> [01:48] <valorie> author works, opens fine in lo
[21:58] <valorie> [01:51] <valorie> flow, lovely
[21:58] <valorie> [01:51] <valorie> imo 2.9.9 winz
[21:58] <valorie> [01:51] <valorie> niters
[21:58] <valorie> oh, forget about the silliness about not have LO installed
[21:58] <valorie> I'll talk to the Calligra devels and find out what that "no formatting" bug is about
[21:58] <clivejo> I dont have that
[21:58] <valorie> users should be prompted for what they need to do, IMO
[21:59] <valorie> I think I'm a bad tester in one way, since I never use office-type products
[21:59] <valorie> beyond text editing
[21:59] <valorie> otoh, I face what a new user would face
[21:59] <valorie> how do you test?
[22:00] <clivejo> by using it :P
[22:00] <valorie> I open each component, and try to make some file, usually by typing something
[22:00] <clivejo> I reply on Kontact
[22:00] <valorie> and then saving it
[22:00] <clivejo> rely
[22:00] <valorie> and then open that file
[22:01] <clivejo> the vivid build failed
[22:01] <valorie> well, kmail was my beloved
[22:01] <valorie> until sometime years ago when it would report that the mail was sent
[22:01] <valorie> but it wasn't
[22:05] <clivejo> valorie: in vivid, do you know why LibWps is missing? <http://libwps.sourceforge.net/> Microsoft Works Document Library required by the Words WPS import filter
[22:07] <valorie> no idea -- why is code on sourceforge?!
[22:07] <valorie> this ain't the 90s
[22:08] <clivejo> its a lib that calligra uses to open Microsoft rubbish
[22:10] <valorie> bizarre that one of their *libs* wouldn't be on kde infra
[22:10] <valorie> one must open MS stuff if one is to play in the Office space
[22:11] <clivejo> should I just build it without the import tool?
[22:11] <valorie> I would discuss with the callig folks
[22:12] <valorie> probably in #calligra
[22:12] <clivejo> not really their fault, just for some reason the tool isnt in vivid
[22:12] <clivejo> works fine in wily and xenial
[22:13] <valorie> well, they might be able to tell you why it has to be pulled from *sourceforge*
[22:17] <clivejo> !info libwps-doc
[22:32] <valorie> !info libwps-doc vivid
[22:32] <valorie> clivejo: ^^^
[22:34] <clivejo> !info libwps-dev vivid
[22:39] <clivejo> ah, needs package 'libwps-0.4'
[22:39] <clivejo> vivid is only 0.3
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-br
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[00:07] <MerliM> nuno_nunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAxCu4v8Rs
[00:23] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, o que é isso
[00:24] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, eu ja vi isso
[00:24] <nuno_nunes> mas o programa requer uma box
[00:24] <nuno_nunes> :D
[00:28] <al4nc4ds> o.0 A grobo gosta de gnu/linux ---> http://mirror.globo.com
[00:29] <MerliM> gosta nada
[00:29] <MerliM> usa pelo mesmo que todos usam em grande corporacoes
[00:29] <MerliM> ha ta
[00:29] <MerliM> eu nao assisti
[00:29] <al4nc4ds> MerliM, lol
[00:29] <al4nc4ds> so ve darwin osx la lol
[00:31] <nuno_nunes> darwin osx é o kernel do bsd para macosx :p
[00:32] <al4nc4ds> nuno_nunes, "unix pago"
[00:33] <nuno_nunes> nao
[00:33] <nuno_nunes> o kernel é todo bsd
[00:33] <nuno_nunes> agora o novo macos o update é tipo a windows :D
[00:34] <al4nc4ds> entao paga la uns 6k num kernel bsd
[00:34] <User32> uso ubuntu
[00:34] <User32> estudo pentest
[00:34] <al4nc4ds> unix pago "osx" sem mais...
[00:35] <nuno_nunes> lol
[00:36] <al4nc4ds> lol2 ja fiz hackintosh
[00:36] <al4nc4ds> e ja vi a caralhada que os devs fazem nele
[00:36] <nuno_nunes> eu tambem ja fiz :D
[00:37] <al4nc4ds> nuno_nunes, beijo pro ce lol
[00:37] <nuno_nunes> mas eu nao fan da apple
[00:37] <nuno_nunes> nao o meto :|
[00:40] <MerliM> isso ta cheirando a BAN*
[00:41] <hggdh> al4nc4ds: lingugem, por favor
[00:41] <MerliM> kkk num disse
[00:53] <nuno_nunes> eu nao disse nada :S
[00:54] <nuno_nunes> o pessoal a pedir ajuda é pouco
[00:54] <nuno_nunes> :D
[04:49] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[09:57] <MerliM> bom dia!
[13:51] <shallwe> caracas galera agora conheci a fundo essas placas de video VIA, algumas não tem nem suporte pra windows VISTA kkkk, e depois o pessoal ainda fica bravo que não tem drive pra ubuntu 15.10 :P
[13:51] <shallwe> milagre a sociedade ainda ter drive opensoure pra ubuntu 14.04
[13:53] <shallwe> ele não achou poh, pq nã existe drive pra windows 7 bobinha hihi
[14:58] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[16:49] <pikatchu> instalei ubuntu, mas é igual ao pendrive
[16:49] <pikatchu> não tem terminal
[17:00] <pikatchu> achei
[17:23] <MerliM> opa
[17:24] <MerliM> alguem ajuda precisa. Que a força esteja com vcs
[17:25] <MerliM> força=opensource
[18:24] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte de ubuntu
[18:56] <pikatchu> agora eu tenho certeza q o desligamento do pc é culpa do windows 10. Instalei ubuntu, posso rodar warsow por 10 minutos sem desligar. No windows 10 desliga em 2 ou 3 minutos.
[21:54] <astroo-> ola pessoal
. Freenode under attack again
[22:16] <MerliM> hggdh: vixiiiiii
[23:55] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos
[23:55] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:55] <astroo-> ola
[23:55] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de suporte :)
[23:55] <astroo-> freenode anda sobre ataque
[23:59] <nuno_nunes> pk dizes isso
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[16:20] <ariado> Welcome !
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[08:29] <denbeiren_> i'm running a file transfer from a livecd to my backuplocation, the pc seems to be frozen up
[08:29] <denbeiren_> i can see the capslock led blink
[08:30] <denbeiren_> screen is black
[08:30] <denbeiren_> any way to revive the pc?
[08:33] <flocculant> denbeiren_: h- this isn't a support channel - try #ubuntu :)
[08:33] <denbeiren_> oh
[08:34] <denbeiren_> so i should see this one as discussion?
[08:35] <flocculant> no this is where the people working on desktop hang out and is like a desert during the weekend :)
[13:09] * Laney sprays sand all over flocculant
[13:14] <flocculant> I thought you might :p
[13:18] <flocculant> on the plus side I grabbed the libgtk stuff from -proposed and I've not got 'normous grey borders anymore ;)
[14:48] <renso> hi
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2015-11-29-#xubuntu-devel
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[14:54] <MrTulias> hi
[14:56] <flocculant> hello MrTulias
[14:57] <MrTulias> hello flocculant
[14:57] <flocculant> how's things
[14:58] <MrTulias> waiting for the meeting about testing :p
[14:59] <flocculant> \o/
[15:00] <flocculant> you know it's 3 hours away I hope :)
[15:00] <MrTulias> yes :)
[15:00] <flocculant> :)
[15:01] <flocculant> have you done much for us before?
[15:02] <flocculant> name seems familiar
[15:02] <MrTulias> some translations to Spanish
[15:02] <flocculant> aah - that's where I've seen your name perhaps
[15:04] <flocculant> afternoon krytarik
[15:04] <krytarik> Aftn flocculant.
[15:38] <flocculant> hi drc mexchip
[17:34] <flocculant> hey sorinel1o
[17:46] <flocculant> !team | early warning of testing meeting - we'll be using meetingology for that
[17:46] <flocculant> anyone here for the testing session at 18:00 ?
[17:46] <flocculant> that means not team :)
[17:47] <mcs_> yep
[17:47] <flocculant> :)
[17:47] <flocculant> hi mcs_
[17:47] <mcs_> hi flocculant
[17:47] <flocculant> MrTulias was earlier
[17:48] <flocculant> hey akxwi-dave
[17:48] <akxwi-dave> Hi flocculant
[17:48] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: join -offtopic
[17:48] <akxwi-dave> join -offtopic
[17:48] <akxwi-dave> oops wrong box
[17:48] <flocculant> :D
[17:49] <flocculant> it's #xubuntu-offtopic :)
[17:49] <akxwi-dave> yup in
[17:52] <flocculant> yep
[18:00] <flocculant> #startmeeting
[18:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Sun Nov 29 18:00:38 2015 UTC. The chair is flocculant. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[18:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[18:00] <flocculant> #chair akxwi-dave
[18:00] <meetingology> Current chairs: akxwi-dave flocculant
[18:01] <flocculant> Evening all - so we're going to now run the planned How to test session
[18:01] <flocculant> We're not sure what people need
[18:01] <flocculant> We're sure we need you
[18:02] <flocculant> What we want to do in this session is just run through what we're trying to get during this cycle
[18:02] <flocculant> So - what we first would love to know is who's turned up for the session :)
[18:03] <mcs_> 0/
[18:03] <flocculant> If you're here to learn something from us - then please do as mcs_ did :)
[18:03] <flocculant> hi mexchip
[18:03] <flocculant> you here for the testing session?
[18:03] <mexchip> hi flocculant, yes
[18:03] <flocculant> \o/
[18:04] <flocculant> just starting up now
[18:04] <mexchip> yes, sorry for being a bit late
[18:04] <mexchip> but I'm ready :)
[18:04] <flocculant> now worries :)
[18:04] <flocculant> I saw you pitch up earlier
[18:05] <mexchip> yes, testing the IRC software I just installed
[18:05] <flocculant> anyway - lets get a start, akxwi-dave has been pretty active testing for us when we shout out during the last few cycles
[18:06] <akxwi-dave> Afternoon All
[18:06] <flocculant> he recently got approved into the main QA team and this was his first *job* from me
[18:06] <flocculant> so be nice ;)
[18:06] <mcs_> \o/ akxwi-dave
[18:06] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: - the channel is yours :)
[18:07] <akxwi-dave> Cheers flocculant , As you have just been told, I've been test testing for a few cycles now
[18:07] <akxwi-dave> I started testing to give something back to the community, but it was scary at first
[18:08] <akxwi-dave> not sure if i was doing things right or if it actually helped
[18:08] <akxwi-dave> so hopefully what I'm about the pass on will help you get started in testing Xubuntu
[18:09] <akxwi-dave> feel free to ask anything as I'm doing this
[18:10] <akxwi-dave> to me there's three parts to the testing, ISO's, Packages and Bugs
[18:10] <akxwi-dave> so I'll go thru them one at a time
[18:10] <akxwi-dave> #subtopic iso testing
[18:11] <akxwi-dave> Iso testing is probably the easiest one to get involved with, either by using a spare PC or using a virtual machine
[18:11] <flocculant> oh meh - do we need to #topic first :(
[18:11] <flocculant> #topic testing
[18:11] <akxwi-dave> oops :
[18:12] <akxwi-dave> lets try again
[18:12] <flocculant> #subtopic iso testing
[18:12] <akxwi-dave> Iso testing is probably the easiest one to get involved with, either by using a spare PC or using a virtual machine
[18:12] <flocculant> could be wrong :)
[18:13] * flocculant - you carry on akxwi-dave - sorry :p
[18:13] <akxwi-dave> When I first started I was lucky enough to have spare PC, but now I test using Virtual Machines (32bit) and real hardware (64 bit)
[18:14] <akxwi-dave> by downloading either the latest Daily build or even if its just beta version you can help
[18:14] <akxwi-dave> you can access these from here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[18:15] <mcs_> Can i ask a question ?
[18:15] <akxwi-dave> of course
[18:15] <flocculant> o/
[18:16] <mcs_> Can we download the isos (the alpha and betas) from here as well ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[18:16] <flocculant> yes
[18:16] <mcs_> sorry gtypo => http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[18:17] <mcs_> OK
[18:17] <flocculant> still yes :)
[18:17] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[18:17] <mcs_> ty
[18:17] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: excuse me for a moment while I make a point
[18:17] <akxwi-dave> off course
[18:18] <NoklaM> Got to ask, how silly of me is to run the developmenet version on my only machine?
[18:18] <flocculant> akxwi-dave is running the session, I'm reading - if people have questions just chuck a o/ into the channel and I will make sure you get chance
[18:19] <flocculant> then we can run the session as akxwi-dave want's and we can ask questions at each topic end, thanks :)
[18:19] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: your channel again :)
[18:19] <akxwi-dave> if you want to be 100 % safe do it as a VM, however my Laptop which i use daily has the latest 16 build on it.04
[18:19] <akxwi-dave> ta
[18:21] <akxwi-dave> once you have the ISo of you choice take a look at the testcases for that build
[18:21] <akxwi-dave> luckily each test case has a number of things that we would like to be tested for
[18:22] <akxwi-dave> I personally do them in this order, As I find that I can get a number of things tested in a good run
[18:23] <akxwi-dave> start with the Live Session - and work down the test options
[18:23] <akxwi-dave> basically that it boots to desktop and you can start all the usually applications
[18:24] <akxwi-dave> for me thats the main programs that i would use on a day to day basis
[18:25] <akxwi-dave> if I get any wierd things happen or programs fail i would write down what I was doing and what went wrong.
[18:26] <akxwi-dave> when I happy I have done that I go back to the test cases and see if any bugs had been reported for the live session.
[18:26] <akxwi-dave> If there have i check against what I may have found..
[18:27] <akxwi-dave> I ususally check after the first run, as I don want to infulence my usuage.. but for all the rest of the testing I check the bugs reported first
[18:28] <akxwi-dave> No one fallen asleep yet? :-)
[18:28] <NoklaM> o/
[18:28] <NoklaM> keep going :P
[18:28] <NoklaM> It's good
[18:28] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[18:29] <mexchip> go on
[18:29] <flocculant> I'm here too :)
[18:29] <mcs_> o/
[18:29] <MrTulias> \o
[18:29] <flocculant> :)
[18:30] <flocculant> o/
[18:30] <akxwi-dave> I then Move to one of the install options - I usually try to alternate which one I go for first..( and choose a different one for the VM testing)
[18:31] <mcs_> o/
[18:31] <akxwi-dave> as you will see here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/107745/testcases/1300/results there tends to be more to do..
[18:31] <akxwi-dave> mcs a question?
[18:32] <mcs_> yes
[18:32] <akxwi-dave> fire away
[18:33] <mcs_> If i find a bug that is not part of a test case should i be raising to launchpad or xubuntus qa ?
[18:33] <mcs_> ie. against ubuntu or xubuntu ?
[18:33] <flocculant> against the package
[18:33] <flocculant> example
[18:34] <akxwi-dave> I personally raise it on launchpad ( Which I will come to later) against the package
[18:34] <flocculant> find an issue with mousepad
[18:34] <flocculant> report it there, you can THEN list that number in the tracker
[18:35] <mcs_> ahh. ty
[18:35] <flocculant> this means that both QA following tracker and dev following package see it :)
[18:35] <mcs_> right. ic
[18:35] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: unless that was what you intended to say :)
[18:36] <akxwi-dave> word for word flocculant :-)
[18:36] <akxwi-dave> back to the installation testcase
[18:37] <akxwi-dave> as you may see there is usually more to check, so before I do I tend to see if any other bugs have been reported so I can check for them While installing
[18:37] <akxwi-dave> again writing anything i find down for later
[18:38] <akxwi-dave> and finally after the install I do the post install test, following the testcase along with using all the programs I use in a day to day basis..
[18:39] <akxwi-dave> on a side note I also tend to install any restricted drivers available and steam, along with a game
[18:40] <akxwi-dave> just to test it as I would truly use it..
[18:40] <flocculant> \o/
[18:40] <flocculant> important point ;)
[18:40] <akxwi-dave> once all the testcases have been done I then file the reports
[18:40] <akxwi-dave> :-)
[18:42] <akxwi-dave> if you do get any of the bugs that have been recorded before PLEASE make sure you report them as well, just because some one has already reported it, its still important that you do
[18:42] <akxwi-dave> the more people that report a bug, shows that its not an isolated case
[18:42] <flocculant> yep
[18:43] <akxwi-dave> as a caveat to that. there will be obvious ones that will not need to be reported i.e. the Gmusic Browser bug
[18:43] <akxwi-dave> but if in Doubt please please report it
[18:44] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: that has gone from the testcase now
[18:44] <akxwi-dave> thats the end of this subtopic any questions before we move on to testing packages
[18:45] <flocculant> I had one :)
[18:45] <akxwi-dave> pls ask..
[18:45] <flocculant> if I start an iso test - is there a way that I can say I am testing it?
[18:46] <akxwi-dave> yes you can
[18:46] <flocculant> ok thanks - how?
[18:47] <akxwi-dave> logging into the tracker where you report the test results, you can set the result to "Testing"
[18:47] <akxwi-dave> rather than passed or failed
[18:47] <akxwi-dave> and go back and edit it once you are finished
[18:47] <flocculant> ok thanks akxwi-dave
[18:48] <akxwi-dave> That also go for if you reported one as passed you can then go back and change it to failed and vice versa
[18:48] <flocculant> did mcs_ get syncing info earlier?
[18:48] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: good good point :)
[18:49] <mcs_> flocculant: ? i don't think so
[18:49] <flocculant> ok
[18:50] <akxwi-dave> #subtopic Package testing and PPA's
[18:50] <flocculant> just to tie this section up - there are ways to just grab the differenc
[18:50] <NoklaM> o/
[18:50] <mcs_> o/
[18:50] <flocculant> I'll touch on those at the end though
[18:51] <akxwi-dave> before i continue any other questions?
[18:51] <flocculant> as akxwi-dave is now on what we REALLY want :)
[18:51] <mcs_> i was going to enquire about zsync but i suspect that'll come later
[18:52] <akxwi-dave> mcs_, yes it will do flocculant is going to do that at the end
[18:52] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: get on with packages where I willl be noisy :D
[18:52] <mcs_> ty
[18:52] <akxwi-dave> right packages.. this is the bit that is really fun...
[18:52] <flocculant> ***PACKAGE TESTING ****
[18:52] <flocculant> :D
[18:53] <akxwi-dave> lol
[18:53] <akxwi-dave> if you read the get involved section of the website it mentions there are 3 testing PPA's that are used.
[18:54] <akxwi-dave> and these need to be installed
[18:54] <akxwi-dave> http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa
[18:54] <akxwi-dave> to make it easier for people I will list the terminal commands to install these
[18:54] <akxwi-dave> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:shimmerproject/daily
[18:54] <akxwi-dave> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/xubuntu-staging
[18:54] <akxwi-dave> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/ppa
[18:55] <akxwi-dave> sudo apt-get update
[18:55] <akxwi-dave> sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:55] <akxwi-dave> I do this because people may be great at testing, but not necessarilty great at the terminal ( looks both ways and hides)
[18:56] <akxwi-dave> first thing i do before any package testing is to check there are no updates
[18:56] <akxwi-dave> and manually do and update and upgrade
[18:57] <akxwi-dave> i then go to the package tracker http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/
[18:57] <flocculant> o/
[18:57] <akxwi-dave> here for the latest ones
[18:57] <akxwi-dave> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/350/builds/105268/testcases
[18:57] <akxwi-dave> yes flocculant ?
[18:58] <flocculant> can I just jump in quickly
[18:58] <akxwi-dave> of course
[18:58] <flocculant> re those PPAs
[18:58] <flocculant> anyone can add those when supported
[18:59] <flocculant> but - we would urge people using them to also have ppa-purge installed so you can test *new* for a while
[19:00] <flocculant> then purge the ppa and go back to default
[19:00] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: sorry - carry on :)
[19:00] <akxwi-dave> no probs flocculant
[19:02] <akxwi-dave> the good thing about package testing is that as there a large number of test cases, and it may look daunting, you can choose which one to do at any time
[19:02] <akxwi-dave> and like the ISO testing, the test cases have very good instructions of what to test..
[19:03] <akxwi-dave> first time i looked at them, I will admit I was scared, and thought omg.. but after 10 mins of reading them.. it was more the case ok lets do this
[19:04] <flocculant> :)
[19:04] <akxwi-dave> using the same methods as for the ISO's I look at the bugs that may have been recorded for the testcase i'm about to do
[19:05] <akxwi-dave> for example the XFCE appearance settings one http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/350/builds/105268/testcases/1575/results
[19:06] <akxwi-dave> and work thru the instructions.
[19:06] <flocculant> oh pick one you can fail me on :p
[19:06] <akxwi-dave> Oh yes..
[19:06] <flocculant> even if it does prove a point :D
[19:07] <akxwi-dave> if you have looked at this testcase you will see found a bug and reported it via launchpad
[19:08] <akxwi-dave> now,, i didnt just rush off and reported it , i retested that section a number of times before i did, just to make sure I hadn't done anything wrong
[19:09] <akxwi-dave> if you do find a bug and report it it will get picked up and checked by the team..
[19:09] <akxwi-dave> just like this one.. http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/350/builds/105268/testcases/1584/results
[19:10] <akxwi-dave> this shows that even if you think you may find a bug and its checked it may not be one
[19:10] <akxwi-dave> in this case I checked this one a number of times before reporting, and eventually as you will see it was my VM that was faulty
[19:11] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: in one
[19:11] <GridCube> MrTulias ping
[19:11] <MrTulias> ?
[19:12] <akxwi-dave> the message with this is you may not always get it right.. but if you have tested it and get the same result a number of times report it
[19:12] <flocculant> the first appearsto be a real bug :
[19:12] <GridCube> P: i think this is the meeting you wanted to be around
[19:12] <MrTulias> :)
[19:13] <akxwi-dave> dont let the ones I have linked put you off, off the package testcases, there a number that have only a few steps
[19:14] <akxwi-dave> start with those to get the hang off it.. once you do you will find you are half way down the list before you know it
[19:14] <akxwi-dave> obiously some of them are better tested with real hardware
[19:15] <akxwi-dave> for example to bluetooth connectivity
[19:15] <akxwi-dave> but real hardware or virtual machines.. any testing is helpfuul
[19:16] <flocculant> ^^
[19:16] <akxwi-dave> any questions?
[19:16] <flocculant> loads :D
[19:16] <mcs_> o/
[19:17] <flocculant> bunch of statements too :_P
[19:17] <akxwi-dave> fire away
[19:17] <mcs_> who ?
[19:17] <flocculant> perhaps if w #topic flocculant then let people ask stuff
[19:18] <akxwi-dave> mcs first
[19:18] <flocculant> #subtopic Xubuntu extras
[19:18] <mcs_> just to be clear about testing the PPA, i could...
[19:18] <flocculant> mcs_: the ?
[19:19] <mcs_> flocculant: i was going to ask a question
[19:19] <flocculant> yep - go ahead
[19:19] <mcs_> ty
[19:20] <mcs_> i could download a daily iso, update and upgrade it, add the PPAs using the commands above ^^^ update and upgrade again and then i'm good to go ?
[19:20] <akxwi-dave> yes
[19:20] <mcs_> ty
[19:21] <akxwi-dave> Thats what I do on my laptop.. and test the individual iso's om a vm
[19:21] <flocculant> mcs_: for people not understanding
[19:23] <flocculant> grab the daily image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current and you can zsync it
[19:23] <flocculant> I alias image to zyncing the pair
[19:24] <flocculant> anyone questions about testing apps?
[19:24] <akxwi-dave> two links that can help to bookmark for reporting new bugs
[19:24] <akxwi-dave> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[19:24] <akxwi-dave> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[19:25] <akxwi-dave> these along with the full list of test cases are auto loaded for me when I start testing.. just in case
[19:25] <flocculant> last call
[19:26] <flocculant> closing at 7:30
[19:26] <akxwi-dave> once of the hardest things when reporting bugs is the tags.. don't worry if you get them wrong first times around flocculant can change them :-)
[19:27] <akxwi-dave> if any one has any questions after this session feel free to grab me anytime
[19:27] <mcs_> o/
[19:27] <akxwi-dave> yes mcs
[19:28] <mcs_> is it too early to start testing now ? i.e next week ?
[19:28] <akxwi-dave> nope startwhen you are ready
[19:28] <mcs_> ty
[19:29] <flocculant> #endmeeting
[19:29] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Nov 29 19:29:23 2015 UTC.
[19:29] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-11-29-18.00.moin.txt
[19:29] <akxwi-dave> thank you all for coming
[19:30] <akxwi-dave> hope this has helped even if in some small way
[19:30] <mcs_> ty akxwi-dave flocculant
[19:30] <flocculant> mcs_: I've been running the dev version since the day after release as alwa
[19:30] <NoklaM> thanks lads, very informative :)
[19:30] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: thank you man :)
[19:31] <flocculant> I'll try and get some logs out of it for the wiki
[19:31] <akxwi-dave> anytime :-)
[19:32] <flocculant> perhaps when we do session 2 we'll do the next stage
[19:33] <flocculant> runs with dev, runs with ppa, runs away :p
[19:33] <akxwi-dave> lol
[19:33] <flocculant> sadly I am serious :p
[19:34] <flocculant> we should follow that basic session up - bluesabre will REALLY hate me then :P
[19:34] <flocculant> he he he
[19:35] <akxwi-dave> lmao.. :-)
[19:35] <flocculant> he won'y:
[19:36] <akxwi-dave> Well hopefully that will help.. wish i had thought of asking for a bit of guidance when I first started, it can be scary until you get to the point when it clicks
[19:36] <flocculant> 't
[19:36] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: hah hah
[19:37] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: exactly what I had hoped for from you
[19:38] <mexchip> thanks for the session, it was very informative
[19:38] <flocculant> they might know yet - but it was spot on
[19:38] <flocculant> thanks mexchip
[19:38] <akxwi-dave> well time time to go mate... was the wifes birthday last thurday and i need to take her to the pub
[19:38] <akxwi-dave> cheers mexchip and thx
[19:38] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: good evening then :)
[19:39] <akxwi-dave> will be back on tomorrow.. have fun
[22:47] <knome_tracker> eh.
[23:05] <knome_tracker> doesn't look any better, seems like i'm dropping off soon again.
[23:14] <knome> this looks more promising
[23:52] <tsimonq2> hey, gonna give you guys a hand, after I am done with Lubuntu ISO test cases, I am going to do some Xubuntu ones
[23:53] <tsimonq2> although at this point it is less important then it would be later on in the release schedule, why not?
[23:53] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-nl
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[12:11] <JasperCoenraats> goedenmiddag. Is er iemand die weet hoe je KeePass vanaf de commandline moet installeren?
[12:11] <JasperCoenraats> Linkje is ook goed
[12:13] <lordievader> http://www.howtogeek.com/93798/install-keepass-password-safe-on-your-ubuntu-or-debian-based-linux-system/
[12:13] <lordievader> Weet niet hoe out-of-date die guide is.
[12:14] <SCHAAP137> JasperCoenraats, wat ik zelf gebruik is KeePassX, op een USB stickje, draagbare installatie voor zowel linux als windows
[12:14] <SCHAAP137> .kdb bestandje erbij, die stick lekker meenemen/gebruiken
[12:15] <JasperCoenraats> Dus niet alleen op je eigen computer?
[12:15] <JasperCoenraats> Is dat dan op de USB geïnstalleerd? Dat je 'm daarvanaf draait als je op een windows aparaat zit?
[12:16] <SCHAAP137> ja
[12:16] <JasperCoenraats> Dus niet alleen op je eigen computer?ik ga 's kijken, dankjewel lordievader en SCHAAP137
[12:16] <SCHAAP137> JasperCoenraats, het is zelfs geen installatie, vanaf de website kun je een portable versie pakken
[12:16] <SCHAAP137> is gewoon zipje wat je uitpakt, met een mapje + applicatie
[12:17] <SCHAAP137> die je direct kunt openen, ook vanaf USB
[12:17] <SCHAAP137> zet je gewoon de windows + linux versie tegelijkertijd, op een stickje
[12:17] <JasperCoenraats> maar je hoeft dus geen installatie op een andere pc die je gebruikt uit te voeren, SCHAAP137 ?
[12:17] <SCHAAP137> + je password database
[12:17] <SCHAAP137> dat is correct, JasperCoenraats
[12:17] <JasperCoenraats> ok
[12:17] <SCHAAP137> dat maakt het handig
[12:17] <SCHAAP137> gewoon stickje derin, openen en gaan
[12:18] <JasperCoenraats> is daar een Terminalcommando voor?
[12:18] <SCHAAP137> keepassx zit wel in de package repository
[12:18] <SCHAAP137> sudo apt-get install keepassx
[12:18] <SCHAAP137> maar dan installeer je 'm lokaal
[12:18] <SCHAAP137> van de website, kun je de portable versie downloaden
[12:19] <SCHAAP137> iig die van windows, is portable
[12:22] <JasperCoenraats> ik draai onder linus, schaap
[12:22] <JasperCoenraats> ik draai onder linus, SCHAAP137
[12:22] <SCHAAP137> kzou keepassx lekker installeren dan
[12:22] <SCHAAP137> alleen die windows versie is draagbaar, merk ik nu
[12:23] <SCHAAP137> JasperCoenraats, KeePassX is wel iets anders dan KeePass2 op windows. In Keepass2 wordt dat nieuwe formaat gebruikt, .kdbx
[12:23] <SCHAAP137> KeePassX kan alleen omgaan met het 1.0 formaat, .kdb
[12:23] <JasperCoenraats> ik zie waar ik vastloop, eerder al, nl. de ppa
[12:24] <JasperCoenraats> had ik nog nooit van gehoord
[12:24] <SCHAAP137> KeePass2 kun je ook draaien, met mono (opensource .NET implementatie), maar ik vind het niet lekker werken, iig niet op 15.10
[12:25] <SCHAAP137> die tray icon krijg ik niet goed aan de praat
[12:25] <SCHAAP137> op 14.04 wel, is er een PPA die dat goed regelt
[12:25] <JasperCoenraats> lord
[12:26] <JasperCoenraats> lordievader: is ppa:jtaylor/keepass een veilige, betrouwbare bron? SCHAAP137, wet jij dat?
[12:26] <lordievader> Geen flauw idee. Was het eerste linkje dat ik on vinden ;)
[12:27] <SCHAAP137> JasperCoenraats, welke Ubuntu versie draai je? ik had een andere volgens mij, toen ik nog 14.04 draaide
[12:28] <JasperCoenraats> 14.04, die zit in het Ubuntu Software centrum, I see
[12:28] <JasperCoenraats> dankjewek, hij loopt
[12:29] <JasperCoenraats> blijkt het weer heel simpel te zijn :)
[12:30] <SCHAAP137> jep
[12:32] <JasperCoenraats> ik ga herstarten en updtaen e.d. Dankje SCHAAP137 en lordievader !
[15:03] <TheEagerPadawan> waarvoor dienen de worker_processes en work_connections directives in nginx.conf
[15:13] <lordievader> Zoals gewoonlijk, zie de documentatie: http://nginx.org/en/docs/ngx_core_module.html#worker_processes
[15:20] <TheEagerPadawan> worker_processes -> defines the the number of worker processes , o'rly?
[15:22] <TheEagerPadawan> de vraag is dus wat is een worker process?
[15:24] <lordievader> Een worker is over het algmeen het process waarmee een client verbinding maakt en dus degene die de request afhandelt.
[15:32] <TheEagerPadawan> dat is een nogal abstracte omschrijving
[15:35] <Maikel> maar het is een vrije brede vraag die je stelt
[15:36] <Maikel> lordievader's omschrijving is volgens mij geheel correct, dat is zoals ik hem ook ken en toegepast zie
[15:36] <lordievader> Valt toch wel mee hoe abstract het is?
[15:36] <lordievader> TheEagerPadawan: Is er iets niet duidelijk?
[15:39] <TheEagerPadawan> laat me vraag eventjes anders stellen: stel dat je de value van de worker_process zouw vermeerderen dan zou je meerdere workers spownen wat is daar concreet het voordeel van?
[15:40] <lordievader> Dat je meer requests tegelijkertijd af kunt handelen. In andere worden requests komen minder snel in een queue terecht.
[15:42] <Maikel> stel je voor: je bent een bank
[15:42] <Maikel> en je hebt miljoenen klanten
[15:42] <Maikel> deze doen aanvragen en andere mutaties
[15:42] <Maikel> die wil je in een soort queue krijgen en daar graaien workers weer uit
[15:43] <Maikel> of een worker deligeert het werk weer naar andere workers
[15:43] <TheEagerPadawan> dus eigenlijk vermeerder je de loketten ;)
[15:43] <Maikel> in analoge termen, ja
[15:44] <TheEagerPadawan> interesting
[15:44] * TheEagerPadawan rubs beard
[15:44] <Maikel> helaas kan ik je niet een werkend voorbeeld laten zien ivm nda.
[15:45] <TheEagerPadawan> np
[15:45] <TheEagerPadawan> als je in eerste instantie kijkt naar die directives vraag je af wat ze nu eigenlijk bedoelen :)
[15:45] <Maikel> ah en trouwens bij nginx is het typisch iets voor load balancing setups
[15:45] <TheEagerPadawan> thanks for the info en het voorbeeld
[15:47] <TheEagerPadawan> en wat is het verschil tussen keepalive_timeout en send_timeout?
[15:48] <Maikel> uit mijn hoofd
[15:48] <Maikel> send = zenden van data
[15:48] <Maikel> dus jij als gebruiker naar nginx
[15:48] <Maikel> keep alive is bijv. hoe lang een tcp connectie blijft bestaan
[15:48] <Maikel> send time kan niet lager zijn dan keepalive
[15:48] <Maikel> TheEagerPadawan: ben je aan het kijken naar een load balancing setup?
[15:49] <TheEagerPadawan> nope gewoon aan het prutsen met nginx
[15:49] <Maikel> oh ok.
[15:49] <TheEagerPadawan> en proberen uit te vissen wat de verschillende directives bedoelen en waarvoor ze dienen en wat het effect zou zijn als je er aan zou morrelen
[15:49] <Maikel> tip: ik zal altijd nginx als ssl offloader gebruiken en proxy en daar achter apache
[15:50] <TheEagerPadawan> de vraag is nu hoe weet je in gods naam hoe lang je tcp connectie wilt laten openstaan
[15:50] <Maikel> nou..die treshholds zijn er niet voor niets. er is een max aan open tcp connecties
[15:50] <Maikel> hence the syn floods
[15:50] <Maikel> maar als je bijv. een rete trage tomcat instance hebt, dan wil je die treshholds omhoog gooien
[15:51] <TheEagerPadawan> was al naaar die richting aan het denken
[15:51] <Maikel> goh TheEagerPadawan leuk dat je ze hier stelt die vragen.
[15:51] <Maikel> eens wat anders dan typische luserbuntu vragen
[15:51] <TheEagerPadawan> dus eigenlijk is het gewoon hoe snel kan ik die pagina door de lijn duwen op de sessie buiten te smijten
[15:51] <Maikel> hoe belangrijk is elke connectie tav het groot aantal requests
[15:52] <TheEagerPadawan> mja maar als je sessie timeout voor ie de pagina kan doorsturen
[15:52] <Maikel> juist.
[15:52] <TheEagerPadawan> ben je wel gejost , gecharled of hoe je het ook noemt
[15:52] <Maikel> bijv. bij een confleunce instantie zou ik de treshold heel hoog gooien
[15:52] <lordievader> Overigens is die timeout ook interessant voor sommige websites. Browsers laten normaliter de verbinding open voor het geval dat er meer paginas worden opgevraagd.
[15:52] <Maikel> omdat er toch maar 5 medewerkers per keer staan.
[15:53] <TheEagerPadawan> confluence?
[15:53] <Maikel> ah bekene wiki zooi van atlassian
[15:53] <Maikel> enterprise shit.
[15:53] <Maikel> wel leuk als je klein bent.
[15:53] <Maikel> dan is het maar 10,- per jaar.
[15:53] <Maikel> https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/
[15:54] <Maikel> maar zoals alles met java: je zou er geheugen gratis bij moeten krijgen.
[15:54] <TheEagerPadawan> looks like a onenote thingie
[15:54] <Maikel> ehh nein.
[15:54] <Maikel> dit is veel groter
[15:55] <TheEagerPadawan> meh don't really care about that for now
[15:55] <TheEagerPadawan> back to nginx
[15:55] <TheEagerPadawan> i shall return with more questions someday
[15:55] <TheEagerPadawan> expect me ;)
[15:55] <Maikel> daarom ben je ook de young padawan
[15:56] <TheEagerPadawan> kom je rapper mee wegen ook als je vragen hebt ;)
[15:56] <TheEagerPadawan> weg*
[15:56] <TheEagerPadawan> ipv van een naam als uberelitemasterlinuxguy
[18:28] <dirk_> hallo, mijn zoon heeft een laptopje waarop ik lubuntu voor hem heb geinstalleerd. Nu heeft hij Google Chrome er zelf op geinstalleerd, niet via Softwarecentrum, en nu heeft hij alleen maar problemen. Bestandsbeheer herkent geen sticks en kaartjes meer en er is geen wifi-verbinding meer.
[18:29] <dirk_> Hij wil wel opnieuw installeren maar wel zijn documneten even veilig stellen. het enige wat nu nodig is dat een usb-stickje wordt herkent. Wie weet hoe dat te realiseren?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.990547
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[15:09] <cmaloney> morning pt. 2
[15:15] <cmaloney> On 2015-11-30, 19 hours from now, the membership
[15:15] <cmaloney> of Ubuntu-Michigan (ubuntu-us-mi) (which you are the owner of) in the Verified LoCo Teams (locoteams-verified) Launchpad team
[15:15] <cmaloney> is due to expire.
[15:17] <Scary_Guy> #openbsd-us-mi then? :P
[15:17] <cmaloney> heh
[15:17] <cmaloney> Nah, nothing that horrible
[15:18] <Scary_Guy> That's the only reason why I mentioned it. my friend wants me to switch but I just can't bring myself to it
[15:18] <Scary_Guy> even if it is the most secure
[15:18] <cmaloney> Meanth the verification expiration isn't that horrible
[15:19] <Scary_Guy> Still, two weeks notice would be nice. then again I'm kinda new
[15:19] <cmaloney> We had notice. :)
[15:19] <cmaloney> Check scrollback from a few days back
[15:22] <Scary_Guy> I didn't see it, so it's not in the log
[15:22] <Scary_Guy> I must have been OL then
[15:23] <Scary_Guy> also, I don't actually keep logs :/
[15:25] <Scary_Guy> I really should since my memory is shit though
[15:26] <Scary_Guy> anyway, bbl. building a friend a new system and ruining it with win10 :(
[15:42] <cmaloney> woo woo
[15:42] <cmaloney> have fun
[17:06] <jrwren> openbsd is more secure, it is also much slower.
[17:06] <jrwren> "more secure" for some definition of secure
[23:45] <cmaloney> Evening
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.994485
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-pt
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[04:47] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:53] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.995123
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"astroo-"
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2015-11-29-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[22:13] <cyberanger> Think I just have to get postfix and dovecot into docker, everything else should be running in docker containers now
[22:13] * cyberanger Hopes it'll make life easier in the long term
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.995932
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"cyberanger"
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-ir
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[11:52] <ma3x_> nick recover ma3x
[11:54] <ma3x_> hmm
[11:54] <ma3x_> nick e man alan 'ma3x_' e ya 'ma3x'?
[21:06] <Physicist> salam dustan
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:27.997958
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"Physicist",
"ma3x_"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-ir"
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-marketing
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[04:30] <Na3iL> hey Flannel
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:28.000763
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2015-11-21-#ubuntu-ru
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[15:44] <Nastya> !nick
[15:44] <ubuntuhelp> Ник на IRC-сервере регистрируется так: /msg nickserv register <password> <e-mail> . Подробнее про регистрацию: http://goo.gl/yHMzS8 http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration >> Валидируйте ник по почте! <<
[15:46] <Nastya> ping
[15:46] <ubuntuhelp> Nastya, Fail!
[15:47] <Nastya> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Nastya dvhltzzyfaca
[15:47] <Nastya> ping
[15:47] <ubuntuhelp> Nastya, Failed!
[15:47] <Nastya> hi!
[15:47] <Nastya> !help
[15:47] <ubuntuhelp> Привет, я любимый инфобот канала #ubuntu-ru, Как меня использовать? Просто напишите: ![ls/mc/man/fdisk] или ![ATI/nVidia/etc] вот так. Внимание, чтобы не залететь в игнор/бан, используйте ПРИВАТ и !search [ATI/nVidia/etc] см: http://ubuntuhelp.org.ru/
[15:48] <Nastya> !nick
[15:48] <ubuntuhelp> Ник на IRC-сервере регистрируется так: /msg nickserv register <password> <e-mail> . Подробнее про регистрацию: http://goo.gl/yHMzS8 http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration >> Валидируйте ник по почте! <<
[15:49] <Nastya> NAMES
[15:50] <Sergey_IT> чего мучашь?
[15:51] <Nastya> ПЫтаюсь список активных пользователей получить
[15:51] <Nastya> вроде через /NAMES должно работать, но не работает
[15:52] <Sergey_IT> у меня клиент показывает
[15:52] <Nastya> !names
[15:52] <ubuntuhelp> Кодовые имена Ubuntu можно посмотреть тут: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[16:00] <Sergey_IT> Nastya, разобралась?
[16:00] <Nastya> неа, забила
[16:01] <Nastya> оно лет 5 назад работало. Но увы.
[16:01] <tagezi> :) зачем тебе активные пользователи
[16:01] <tagezi> небось спамить хочешь? :)
[16:01] <Nastya> тут тишина - интересно было есть ли кто
[16:01] <Nastya> конечно хочу.
[16:01] <tagezi> :D тут всегда есть ктонть
[16:02] <Sergey_IT> Nastya, /names #ubuntu-ru
[16:02] <Nastya> не работает
[16:02] <Sergey_IT> Nastya, что у тебя за клиент, который не показывает список?
[16:03] <Nastya> webchat.freenode.net
[16:03] <tagezi> нашёл что выбрать )
[16:04] <Nastya> вроде все остальные вебклиенты на фриноде забанили.
[16:04] <tagezi> круто.. нужно багрепорт написать
[16:04] <tagezi> а то у меня работает что-то ещё (
[16:05] <Sergey_IT> тагези, счас сломаем )
[16:05] <Nastya> есть тут какой питон-канал на русском?
[16:05] <Nastya> вроде был python-ru, но, похоже, сдох.
[16:06] <Sergey_IT> из каналов этот самый многочисленный
[16:06] <Sergey_IT> а зачем тебе?
[16:06] <Nastya> тогда вопрос - есть какой вменяемый GUI Builder под wxPython?
[16:07] <Nastya> пробовала XRCed - динозавр древний и wxFormBuilder постоянно падает
[16:07] <Sergey_IT> да вроде нет
[16:08] <Nastya> причем formbuilder падает вообще на всех платформах
[16:08] <Nastya> *рукалицо*
[16:08] <tagezi> в веб морде смайлики прикрутили?
[16:09] <Nastya> давно уже
[16:11] <Nastya__> test
[16:11] <ubuntuhelp> Nastya__, Понг.
[16:11] <Nastya__> опс - отвалилось
[16:12] <Nastya__> тут интересуются зачем wxPython когда есть QT
[16:12] <Nastya__> отвечаю - лицензия и меньше сишных ушей вылазит в коде
[16:12] <tagezi> зачем кути когда есть книги?
[16:13] <tagezi> Nastya__: не слушай не осиляторов )
[16:13] <Nastya__> msg nickserv identify Nastya begemot
[16:13] <Sergey_IT> в QTCreator ушей питона вообще нет
[16:14] <Sergey_IT> begemot - это пароль?
[16:14] <Nastya__> да
[16:14] <Sergey_IT> теперь и мы знаем
[16:15] <Nastya__> да и ладно
[16:15] <tagezi> не, пароли такими не бывают
[16:16] <Nastya__> так вот когда pyQT запросил указатель в качестве параметра функции я его закрыла
[16:28] <andrex> небыло небыло и вдруг приползла
[16:28] <Nastya__> я тоже рада тебя видеть
[16:29] <andrex> в прошлой серии сериала:
[16:30] <andrex> 2013-04-14 02:37:09 *** Nastya_ was kicked by ubuntuhelp (пока 2.14)
[16:30] <andrex> 2013-04-14 02:44:24 <artus> andrex, бесполезно)
[16:30] <andrex> 2013-04-14 02:44:39 <andrex> угу
[16:30] <andrex> 2013-04-14 02:44:43 <artus> @mode +b Nastya*!*@*
[16:32] <Nastya__> в книжке по wxPyhton примеры написаны быдлокодом.
[16:32] <Nastya__> плохая примета
[16:42] <Sergey_IT> весь питон - быдлокод
[16:43] <DanteA> Короче, не осилила указатели.
[16:44] <Nastya__> вполне себе осилила. Но не в питоне же!
[16:44] <Nastya__> весь питон - удобный и годный язык
[16:45] <Sergey_IT> для чего?
[16:46] <DanteA> Весь Си удобный и годный.
[16:46] <Sergey_IT> паскаль тоже ничего
[16:46] <Nastya__> для скриптов, для математических вычислений (нампи), для веба (джанга)
[16:47] <Nastya__> си уже не нужен
[16:47] <Sergey_IT> ну-ну, процы питон знают?
[16:48] <Nastya__> процы могут работать с ОС
[16:48] <Nastya__> а ОС знает питон
[16:49] <Nastya__> так тчо вполне знают
[16:49] <Sergey_IT> Nastya__, это ОС работает на проце, однако
[16:49] <Nastya__> согласна
[16:50] <Sergey_IT> ОС о питоне даже не догадывается
[16:51] <Nastya__> как что-то плохое...
[18:29] <Leagnus> привет! ребяты, как конвертнуть кирилич. файл cp1251 или UTF8 в latin1, чтобы кирилика не съелась? у меня iconv -c -f KOI8-R -t ISO-8859-1 файл.sql > file-1252.sql съедает кирилику
[18:36] <Sergey_IT> в 1251 конвертни
[18:38] <Leagnus> мне надо в latin1 базу дамп влить
[18:38] <Leagnus> база такая старая, в ненормальной кодировке
[18:38] <Sergey_IT> так в латин1 кирилики нет
[18:39] <Leagnus> есть, не поверишь. огромный форум, и всё на русском отображается.
[18:39] <Leagnus> только вот внутри - на latin1
[18:40] <Leagnus> целый день сёня парюсь с этим форумом. никакого отдыха
[18:40] <Sergey_IT> а 1252 от 1251 только отбражением кирилики отлитчается, то есть верхней таблицей
[18:43] <Leagnus> не знаю, как тогда всё работает и отображается на русском
[18:44] <Sergey_IT> может здесь http://wired-mind.info/post/307/
[18:45] <tagezi> Leagnus: может для каждой таблицы специально назначено utf
[18:45] <tagezi> или что-то такое
[18:45] <Leagnus> не, отображается в мускуле как Âëàñòè ïðèçûâàþò âûïóñê
[18:45] <tagezi> в старых движках у базы и таблиц разные кодироваки были часто
[18:46] <tagezi> особенно когда эти базы делали такие криворучки как я ))))
[18:48] <Leagnus> не ,стоит у каждой таблы latin1, latin1_swedish_ci
[18:49] <Leagnus> блин, и хоть лоб разбей: iconv -c -f UTF-8 -t cp1252 vb_thread.sql > file-1252.sql сжирает тупо всю кирилику
[18:49] <Sergey_IT> а откуда там кирилика тогда
[18:50] <Leagnus> я ж говорю, отображается как Âëàñòè ïðèçûâàþò âûïóñê в базе, а на лице форума, для всех - нормальным русским
[18:52] <Sergey_IT> так посмотри как движком преобразуется в хтмл
[18:55] <Leagnus> ура: http://www.artlebedev.ru/tools/decoder/advanced/ помог
[18:56] <Sergey_IT> (21:36:52) Ubb: в 1251 конвертни
[18:57] <Leagnus> всю БД? а потом все php-файлы менять?
[18:57] <Leagnus> я отдохнуть хочу
[18:58] <Sergey_IT> думаю все проще, только подумать надо
[18:59] <Leagnus> не, с latin1 легче, кто спорит, а вот на неё - труднее. Это как залезть на верблюда 5 баксов, а слезть - 25
[19:09] <Leagnus> причём куда-попало не вставишь, не все проги принимают кодировку в буфере
[19:44] <llorephie> Человеки. Что делать, если pulseaudio внаглую кормит qTox/Skype/прочим звонилкам не только вывод с микрофона, но и весь вывод десктопа? В гугл запрос составить не могу =_=
[19:49] <Sergey_IT> Выключи комп и не включай - ты под колпаком
[19:49] <llorephie> И нет,"как сделать чтоб заработало" в гугле не помогло
[19:49] <llorephie> :D
[19:50] <llorephie> Менять железо тоже не вариант, ноутбукжи
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"DanteA",
"Leagnus",
"Nastya",
"Nastya__",
"Sergey_IT",
"andrex",
"llorephie",
"tagezi",
"ubuntuhelp"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/21/%23ubuntu-ru.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-ru"
}
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