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2015-11-02-#lubuntu
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[01:45] <Mike41> exit
[01:45] <Mike41> heh
[16:54] <Amitari> Hey, anyone who can help me with my Xbox One controller?
[17:00] <Amitari> When I plug it in, nothing happens, from what I understand from the quick-start guide, it's supposed to light up automatically, which it doesn't. If I hold down the Xbox button for 3 seconds, as it says I should do when I connect it to an Xbox One, it blinks 2 times, and then one time slowly. If I just push it, it blinks for a while.
[17:00] <Amitari> If I do lsusb, there's a device that says "Microsoft corp.", so the computer recognizes it on some level.
[17:01] <Amitari> Shit, I just noticed that I only have Kernel 3.13, is it possible to upgrade without having to reinstall the OS?
[17:06] <Amitari> Uh, I think I got it now.
[17:06] <Amitari> Thanks anyways!
[19:30] <Amitari> Can anyone help me with Steam?
[21:06] <darkdot> hello gentlemen I'm looking to get some help with a static IP, can't seem to get it to work.
[21:13] <teward> darkdot: what have you done so far to test it and configure it?
[21:15] <darkdot> i tried the graphical network tool, that didn't work so I removed it, then tried editing the network interfaces but that doesn't work
[21:16] <darkdot> it shows the right information at ifconfig but doesn't connect to the internet
[21:17] <genii> If you manually set your IP you should also manually set your DNS
[21:26] <teward> and the gateway
[21:26] <teward> and netmask
[21:36] <darkdot> i did the ip, the mask and gateway
[21:38] <genii> darkdot: Can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[21:39] <darkdot> no
[21:41] <genii> So then either the info you set for IP, netmask and gateway is incorrect, or there is no connection to the internet from the machine
[21:41] <genii> ( or the adapter is not active)
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.652125
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"Mike41",
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"genii",
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"channel": "#lubuntu"
}
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-pl
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[11:17] <qermit> o/
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.654293
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"qermit"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-pl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
}
|
2015-11-02-#ubuntu-kernel
|
[03:15] <kharnov> hey, kernel dudes. the amd64 build for 4.3 didn't upload, same problem as last week?
[06:58] <who_me> apw: building 4.3 mainline still fails. 4.3-rc7 seems to have built fine after the fix... but looking at debian/rules, there's no "do_mainline_build"
[10:09] <who_me> I wonder whether actually installing ZFS would work around this build issue.
[13:35] <exslackwarer> Hi! I have a bug!
[13:36] <exslackwarer> Take a look at the AMD64 build log for Ubuntu's mainline 4.3-unstable. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.3-unstable/BUILD.LOG.amd64
[13:36] <exslackwarer> It results in an error at the end, where Rsync supposedly uploads the built packages.
[13:36] <exslackwarer> As such there is no AMD64 build available on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.3-unstable/ !
[13:45] <apw> crshman, i have fixed it 3 times already, dammmit computer do what i say
[13:48] <who_me> heh
[13:52] <who_me> it's weird that 4.3-rc7 was fine but 4.3 seems to be using the old rules/template. this also affects the daily builds
[13:53] <who_me> they've been failing to build 64bit packages for more than a week now
[14:05] <apw> who_me, no installing zfs would not help, it is a lack of zfs source in the tree you are building which is breaking the packaging
[14:06] <apw> a fix for which was commited and lost twice at least, grrr
[15:26] <apw> ok the mainline builds ought to be re-fixed and rebuilding
[15:49] <cristian_c> jsalisbury: hi
[16:16] <who_me> apw, 4.3 mainline built. thank you for fixing it :)
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.657716
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"apw",
"cristian_c",
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"kharnov",
"who_me"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel"
}
|
2015-11-02-#ubuntu+1
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[09:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[21:41] <Fudge> yep
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.658916
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"Fudge",
"lordievader"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
|
2015-11-02-#ubuntukylin-devel
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[03:08] <zhangchao> anthony不在？今天电话会议还开吗？joey？
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.663384
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"zhangchao"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntukylin-devel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntukylin-devel"
}
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-irc
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[05:35] <andystar> Hi.
[05:37] <andystar> Is there anybody out there?
[06:06] <MooDoo> no one here but us chickens ;)
[06:17] <c> andystar: hello
[06:46] * andystar who is c?
[06:47] <Mikaela> some staffer it seems
[06:49] <MooDoo> ah thought I was going nuts when I saw that
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.664670
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Mikaela",
"MooDoo",
"andystar",
"c"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-irc.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
}
|
2015-11-02-#maas
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[00:00] <mup> Bug #1512187 opened: ability to create bridges on MAAS nodes for use without Juju <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512187>
[00:12] <mup> Bug #1512187 changed: ability to create bridges on MAAS nodes for use without Juju <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512187>
[00:24] <mup> Bug #1512187 opened: ability to create bridges on MAAS nodes for use without Juju <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512187>
[01:50] <gringo_> hello?
[10:35] <mup> Bug #1512297 opened: Revision of cancel and save buttons while renaming a node <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512297>
[10:38] <mup> Bug #1512297 changed: Revision of cancel and save buttons while renaming a node <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512297>
[10:41] <mup> Bug #1512297 opened: Revision of cancel and save buttons while renaming a node <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by ricgard> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512297>
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.666892
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"gringo_",
"mup"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23maas.txt",
"channel": "#maas"
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-unity
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[09:54] <Saviq> moin
[09:58] <ltinkl> hey
[11:30] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: Saviq: i was wondering if we should link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot from https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/ and suggest people to use a chroot since basically the two envs we support are "unsupported/unstable for desktop"
[11:30] <Saviq> tsdgeos, not a bad idea indeed
[11:31] <tsdgeos> ok, will see how i can articulate it so it doesn't look weird
[14:15] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ltinkl found the test causing the sole makeExitStatusTest.makeExitStatus from https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-vivid/1318/ :)
[14:16] <mzanetti> licence header missing iirc
[14:17] <ltinkl> nope, crash
[15:10] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: the license is a different branch
[15:11] <mzanetti> yep... on it...
[15:30] <kgunn> known? or new issue?
[17:32] <mterry> ltinkl, oobe silo rebuilt btw, sorry forgot to poke ya
[17:33] <ltinkl> mterry, np, thx
[17:37] <davmor2> kgunn: check if autoconnect is enabled?
[17:55] <kgunn> davmor2: i can't get any devices to even show up as available
[17:56] <davmor2> kgunn: meh
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.679110
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"Saviq",
"davmor2",
"kgunn",
"ltinkl",
"mterry",
"mzanetti",
"tsdgeos"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-unity.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-unity"
}
|
2015-11-02-#ubuntustudio
|
[19:33] <pikapi> hi, how can i download driver for my onboard graphics controller that has pixel shader 3.0 support?
[19:39] <pikapi> ubuntu 14.04
[20:15] <ubuntourist> So. I'm using kxstudio's cadence on an Acer Chromebook that I've reformatted as an Ubuntu Studio box. USB headphones work great, but playback through Acer's speakers not working. Solutions?
[22:35] <ubuntourist> Got cut off earlier. Dunno if there was a reply to my query.
[22:35] <ubuntourist> Said query follows:
[22:37] <ubuntourist> kxstudio's cadence works great getting jack-pulse-alsa playing together... for my USB headphones. Anyone know why it doesn't play over the Acer Chromebook's built-in speakers?
[22:37] <ubuntourist> ChromeOS has been wiped completely from the machine. It's now Ubuntu Studio + kxstudio.
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.681422
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"pikapi",
"ubuntourist"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
}
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-tw
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[07:08] <RJHsiao> 預告一下
[07:08] <RJHsiao> 12/4 週五晚上跟 openSUSE TW 合辦 Release Party!
[07:09] <RJHsiao> 地點會在 Novell 的辦公室
[07:10] <RJHsiao> 歡迎有興趣參加的捧由先空下你的時間～
[07:11] <RJHsiao> openSUSE.Asia Smnnit & Woroshop 也幫忙打個廣告一下XD
[07:11] <RJHsiao> http://opensuse-tw.kktix.cc/events/oas15-worshop2 http://opensuse-tw.kktix.cc/events/oas15
[07:17] <RJHsiao> *Summit & Workshop
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.685929
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"RJHsiao"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-tw.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-tw"
}
|
2015-11-02-#ubuntu-news
|
[00:04] <pleia2> tsimonq2: yes! we're writing summaries in the google doc http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[00:05] <tsimonq2> a'ight! I'm on it! :)
[00:08] <pleia2> thanks :)
[00:08] <pleia2> please add your name to the credits at the bottom too
[00:10] <pleia2> tsimonq2: we don't write summaries for upcoming LoCo events, I should remove the header from the google doc entirely because it's just a script we run before publishing to pull in a list
[00:11] <tsimonq2> ok :)
[00:11] <pleia2> tsimonq2: if there's a blog post or announcement for an event, we can link to that up in LoCo News
[00:14] <tsimonq2> got it :)
[00:44] <ahoneybun> pleia2: I saw it pulled in my blog post :)
[00:46] <pleia2> ahoneybun: if by "it" you mean PaulW2U, yes, he collected your post :)
[00:46] <ahoneybun> opps
[00:47] <ahoneybun> thanks PaulW2U
[01:06] <ahoneybun> I thought it was the script pleia2
[01:16] <jose> pleia2: you sure you don't want a couple days rest? I can make sure it goes out tomorrow
[05:33] <pleia2> jose: I can release, if you do have time to help with summaries, that would help a lot, otherwise I'll finish them up now
[05:57] <pleia2> 2 more summaries to go
[06:11] <pleia2> jose: want to take the 2nd one?
[06:12] <jose> writing that one :)
[06:15] <pleia2> \o/
[06:16] <pleia2> ahoneybun: yeah, we don't have automated tools for collecting blog/article links, just things like upcoming LoCo events and other stats we pull
[06:16] <pleia2> jose: all done?
[06:17] <jose> yeah, sorry for all the typo/correction game in there. Android Docs has been buggy today
[06:17] <pleia2> no worries
[06:17] <pleia2> thanks :)
[06:19] <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue440
[06:21] <pleia2> ok, sent off to editors
[12:03] <Unit193> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-fr/3243-ubuntu-party-rouen-15.10/
[12:32] <jose> I'll update that link
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.692361
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"Unit193",
"ahoneybun",
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"tsimonq2"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-gr
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[08:27] <eliasps> Καλημέρα.
[08:27] <eliasps> Δεν είναι και το Euaki μέσα, οπότε down ο server...
[08:27] <salih-emin> χαχαχαχα
[08:28] <salih-emin> τι γίνεται με αυτό τον server ?
[08:28] <eliasps> Ιδέα δεν έχω :P
[09:19] <salih-emin> Euaki, που χάθηκες ? άργησες να ξυπνίσεις
[09:19] <Euaki> salih-emin: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:19] <salih-emin> το ξέρω μανα μου....
[09:19] <salih-emin> δεν είσαι υπόδειγμα
[09:19] <salih-emin> εξυπνάδας
[09:20] <salih-emin> άλλα σε ρωτάω Euaki
[09:20] <salih-emin> Euaki,
[09:20] <salih-emin> ας τα σάπια και μίλα μου
[09:20] <salih-emin> Euaki, τί έκανες το βράδυ ?
[09:20] <Euaki> salih-emin: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:21] <salih-emin> καλά ντάξ... ελα PM
[09:22] <salih-emin> Euaki, Ubuntu
[09:22] <Euaki> Το Ubuntu είναι μια αρχαία αφρικάνικη λέξη που σημαίνει "Σπάω κωδικούς"
[09:22] <salih-emin> XAXAXAX
[09:22] <salih-emin> ποιος το πείραξε ρε ?
[09:22] <salih-emin> eliasps,
[09:22] <salih-emin> εσύ ?
[09:22] <salih-emin> Euaki, Linux
[09:22] <Euaki> Linux είναι ο πυρήνας (kernel) του λειτουργικού συστήματος Ubuntu. Πολλά λειτουργικά συστήματα χρησιμοποιούν επίσης τον πυρήνα Linux.
[10:44] <eiosifidis> Euaki, server ubuntu-gr
[10:44] <Euaki> eiosifidis: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[10:44] <salih-emin> χαχαχαχα
[10:45] <eiosifidis> salih-emin, ούτε για τον server απαντά.
[10:45] <salih-emin> nai re
[10:45] <eiosifidis> Euaki, server
[10:45] <Euaki> Η έκδοση server του Ubuntu είναι μια έκδοση σχεδιασμένη αποκλειστικά για εξυπηρετητές, περιλαμβάνοντας έναν ειδικό πυρήνα για servers και κανένα γραφικό περιβάλλον. Το CD εγκατάστασης περιέχει πολλές εφαρμογές για εξυπηρετητές.
[10:45] <eiosifidis> αυτό το ξέρουμε. γιατί είναι κάτω δεν ξέρουμε ;-)
[10:45] <eiosifidis> ε salih-emin
[10:45] <salih-emin> " περιλαμβάνοντας έναν ειδικό πυρήνα για servers" <-- Αυτό δεν ισχύει πλέον
[10:46] <salih-emin> ουτε εγώ ξέρω
[10:46] <salih-emin> οι αθηναίοι τα έχουν αυτά
[10:46] <eiosifidis> τότε ήταν πυρηνικό.
[10:46] <eiosifidis> πυρηνοκίνητο
[10:46] <salih-emin> χαχαχαχ
[10:46] <kerato> sto upatras einai akoma o server tou ubuntu gr?
[10:48] <eiosifidis> kerato, den exw idean.
[10:50] <kerato> gia poion server legate? giati to ubuntu-gr to vlepw up
[11:01] <eiosifidis> forum
[12:01] <Black_Horseman> hey
[13:58] <alexpag> καλησπέρα αντιμετωπίζω ένα πρόβλημα με τον firefox στο youtube
[13:58] <alexpag> http://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31725
[13:59] <alexpag> Κάθε βοήθεια ευπρόσδεκτη
[14:12] <ttheotokatos> apo periergeia
[14:12] <ttheotokatos> ama grapseis
[14:12] <ttheotokatos> sudo ibus restart
[14:12] <ttheotokatos> tha doulepsei?
[14:12] <ttheotokatos> mhpos exei kolisei to keyboard
[14:13] <alexpag> den nomizo
[14:13] <alexpag> giati me allous browsers den emfanizetai
[14:14] <alexpag> alexpag@Compaq-Presario-CQ60-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo ibus restart [sudo] password for alexpag: sudo: ibus: δεν βρέθηκε η εντολή
[14:23] <ttheotokatos> hmm
[14:24] <ttheotokatos> sto youtube to kanei mono afto ?
[14:24] <ttheotokatos> h genika?
[14:25] <alexpag> youtube mono
[14:25] <alexpag> ekana ekatharisi istorikou
[14:25] <alexpag> apegatastasi firefox
[14:25] <alexpag> kai xana egatastasi alla to problima paremeine
[14:26] <ttheotokatos> sudo firefox -safe-mode
[14:26] <ttheotokatos> sto kanei pali?
[14:28] <ttheotokatos> diladi na anoiksei to firefox
[14:28] <ttheotokatos> se safemode
[14:28] <ttheotokatos> dah
[14:28] <alexpag> to ekana kai auto
[14:28] <alexpag> kai to kanei pali
[14:30] <themhz> exeis peiraksei to theme to firefox?
[14:30] <themhz> ston chrome sto kanei?
[14:30] <alexpag> oxi
[14:30] <alexpag> den to exo peiraxei
[14:31] <themhz> ston chrome sou kanei to idio?
[14:33] <alexpag> exo allaxei tin emfanisi sta parathira kai sto thema sto ubuntu mate
[14:33] <alexpag> paizei kapoio rolo?
[14:33] <themhz> den kserw
[14:33] <themhz> rixnw idees
[14:34] <themhz> apo compiz?
[14:34] <alexpag> xrisimopoio marco oxi compiz
[14:34] <themhz> boreis na kanei reset se default na deis an sto kanei?
[14:34] <alexpag> thimise mou pos to kano auto
[14:37] <themhz> des edw
[14:37] <themhz> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/how-to-test-compiz-on-ubuntu-mate-14-04-and-14-10/182
[14:37] <themhz> sthn mesh peripou exei gia to marco
[14:37] <themhz> den to kserw to marco
[14:40] <alexpag> mporo na allaxo apo marco se compiz apo to mate tweak
[14:40] <alexpag> apla den xero pos sxetizetai me to problima pou exo
[14:42] <themhz> ypopsiazomai oti kapoio effect bory na xalaei thn grammatoseira h tous xromatismous pou exei epileksei to youtube.. praktika den einai thema ubuntu
[14:42] <themhz> h o firefox
[14:42] <themhz> ama anikseis chrome sou kanei to idio provlima?
[14:43] <alexpag> allaxa thema apo black mate se ambient mate
[14:43] <alexpag> kai tora den to kanei
[14:43] <alexpag> !!!
[14:44] <themhz> am bravo
[14:44] <themhz> ara to theme exei kapoia asimvatotita
[14:44] <alexpag> mallon ftaiei to thema
[14:44] <alexpag> nai
[14:44] <alexpag> leo kai ego
[15:45] <themhz> lol ksefige ena window apo thn othonh
[15:45] <themhz> kai den borw na to piasw
[15:45] <themhz> thimiste mou pws to fernw pisw
[15:47] <themhz> alt spacebar to vrika
[19:29] <xeirwn> kalispera paides
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ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.708949
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"Black_Horseman",
"Euaki",
"alexpag",
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"eliasps",
"kerato",
"salih-emin",
"themhz",
"ttheotokatos",
"xeirwn"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-dk
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[10:04] <Ubuntubruger2> hvorfor kan jeg ikke få pcen til at boote fra dvden
|
ubuntu-chat
|
2024-05-13T22:11:25.711358
| 2015-11-02T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Ubuntubruger2"
],
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"channel": "#ubuntu-dk"
}
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:21] <dholbach> good morning
[07:24] <MooDoo> morning
[09:10] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:12] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[09:35] <davidcalle> salut dholbach!
[09:36] <davidcalle> How was the weekend?
[09:36] <dholbach> good good, fairly quiet and relaxed- how was yours?
[09:43] <davidcalle> dholbach, same, maybe not as quiet since kids are a bit sick, but we had a great time :)
[09:44] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[09:44] <dholbach> davidcalle, regarding https://trello.com/c/cgTY06e2/81-fix-markdown-importer what do you suggest we do? :)
[09:44] <davidcalle> dholbach, so, today, we are testing newer django?
[09:44] <davidcalle> I suggest ^
[09:45] <dholbach> ok
[09:45] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/1470715/+merge/268471
[09:45] <dholbach> davidcalle, so you'd say we drop the efforts on getting the mptt approach to work?
[09:47] <davidcalle> dholbach, if we end up moving off mptt and upstream advice isn't helping, I think we should start dropping it. If you want to give it another try, I'm ready to be helpful though ;)
[09:47] <dholbach> no, I think it makes sense
[09:48] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'll add a check list to the bug report
[09:48] <dholbach> just so we can keep it up to date with our testing
[09:48] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok, do you expect a lot of breakage?
[09:48] <dholbach> basically the entire stack changed underneath the app :)
[09:49] <dholbach> I did the update, fixed the bits which exploded in my face and that's all the testing I did up until now
[09:49] <dholbach> so there still might be some
[09:51] <dholbach> davidcalle, I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1470715
[09:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1470715 in developer-ubuntu-com "Do Django upgrade" [High,In progress]
[09:52] <davidcalle> dholbach, zinnia has been planning to move to treebeard since 2012 -> they have probably done it : looking into which version we need
[09:52] <dholbach> it's not a long check list - it's basically just based on stuff I had to change and stuff we're expecting to be fixed
[09:52] <czajkowski> how are we all this lovely foggy Monday
[09:53] <davidcalle> Hey czajkowski :)
[09:53] <davidcalle> pretty good, you?
[09:53] <dholbach> davidcalle,
[09:53] <dholbach> aniel@daydream:~/dev/sites/developer-ubuntu-com.1470715/env/lib/python2.7/site-packages$ grep -ri treebeard zinnia*
[09:53] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~/dev/sites/developer-ubuntu-com.1470715/env/lib/python2.7/site-packages$
[09:54] <dholbach> so it looks like zinnia is still pulling in its own mptt
[09:55] <davidcalle> dholbach, if it still requires it, maybe we can have treebeard for the cms and keep mptt for zinnia?
[09:56] <dholbach> davidcalle, yes, but I wouldn't specify mptt in the requirements.txt - zinnia will pull it in on its own
[09:56] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok
[09:56] <dholbach> so it's not something our app depends on
[10:00] <dholbach> davidcalle, once you've done the migration locally, you'll notice a couple of deprecation warnings wrt future django 1.9 - maybe we should create a separate bug report for that, so we're safe for a future upgrade
[10:00] <davidcalle> dholbach, +1
[10:03] * dholbach needs to run to the dentist - see you later
[10:04] <davidcalle> dholbach, have fun*
[10:04] <dholbach> :)
[10:09] <czajkowski> davidcalle: not bad thanks had some time off last week
[10:12] <davidcalle> czajkowski, that's nice, I had some as well, did anything special? In France we had a pretty sunny week and went to the south for a few days
[10:13] <czajkowski> my goddaugher came over from lille and we did the london eye, Wicked musical and lots more over the few days
[10:15] <davidcalle> czajkowski, nice :)
[10:18] <czajkowski> yes she's over studying there this semester
[10:29] <davidcalle> czajkowski, staying at your place?
[10:35] <czajkowski> davidcalle: yes in Godalming
[10:35] <czajkowski> for the visti
[10:35] <czajkowski> but not when she studies in Lille, she's staying there till till december has been there since september
[10:35] <czajkowski> then off to luxemburg for internship
[10:36] <davidcalle> czajkowski, hah, I thought she was french and that "over" was england. /me needs more coffee
[10:51] <czajkowski> ahh no she's Irish
[10:51] <czajkowski> :)
[11:46] <dholbach> davidcalle, can you "wget github.com" from staging/prod and see if that does anything? :)
[11:55] <davidcalle> dholbach, git clone git://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy times out
[11:55] <davidcalle> staging
[11:56] <davidcalle> Well, not the staging server itself, but the juju machine we need this to run on
[11:57] <dholbach> davidcalle, hum... can you follow up on #85928 please? maybe I didn't phrase my question explicitly enough :)
[11:57] <davidcalle> dholbach, yep
[11:57] <dholbach> thanks a lot
[12:07] <davidcalle> dholbach, I haven't been able to get rid of mptt for the upgrade, following your list of commands on the mp, uninstalling mptt breaks a lot of migrations (eg. admin), keeping it makes things work. I've fixed some importer bits (eg. import commands from the admin were broken due to a new way of dealing with command args), and changed fix-mptt to fix-cms, things still working fine with mysql, haven't tried with postgre yet
[12:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, do you have a diff of the changes you had to do locally?
[12:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, did you start from trunk with all migrations applied?
[12:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, for the MP I used a branch we can all write to, so I'd suggest we consider this as something we all work on and just write to if necessary
[12:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've made a fresh trunk, make dev, added the dbdump suggested in the README, make run, the merged your branch and ran all the upgrade commands
[12:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, ok, I'll push the changes needed for the importer first
[12:11] <davidcalle> dholbach, we should probably merge trunk on it as well, right?
[12:12] <dholbach> sure, if there's any more changes, sure
[12:12] <dholbach> done
[12:13] <dholbach> davidcalle, I've never used 'make dev' and 'make run'
[12:14] <davidcalle> dholbach, they are just shortcuts to what we were used to
[12:14] <davidcalle> dholbach, with a few juju related fixes
[12:15] <dholbach> ok cool
[12:18] <dholbach> it looks like "syncdb" → "migrate", so with the commands you ran, you should be all set
[12:21] <davidcalle> dholbach, oh ok
[12:21] <davidcalle> dholbach, pushed
[12:49] <balloons_> Morning everyone
[12:51] <dholbach> hey balloons_
[12:51] <dholbach> how are you? how are things?
[12:53] <balloons_> A bit tired. Excited for uos this week
[12:53] <balloons_> Should be a fun week!
[12:54] <davidcalle> Hey balloons_ :)
[12:56] * dholbach hugs balloons_
[13:02] <balloons_> I see all the nice uos summaries. I need to figure out my own attendance schedule
[13:04] <dholbach> balloons_, speaking of summaries - have you set up the google doc for the session summaries?
[13:04] <dholbach> davidcalle, I just pushed some more changes to the branch
[13:04] <dholbach> davidcalle, I learnt that "pip list -o" can show me outdated modules :)
[13:05] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'll do some testing in a postgres setting now
[13:07] <davidcalle> dholbach, yes please, I haven't looked at postgre with treebeard yet... I'm anxious to hear your findings
[13:15] <balloons_> dholbach, I have not. I guess I may as well as get folks to start doing it on day 1
[13:16] <dholbach> davidcalle, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13082127/
[13:16] <dholbach> davidcalle, I had just created home and snappy/{guides/snapcraft} as empty placeholder pages - I think that was enough in the past - I'll take a look and see why it failed
[13:16] <dholbach> balloons_, thanks a lot - I added the folks who need access to the trello card
[13:17] <dholbach> davidcalle, from a first glance it doesn't look good - I'll take a closer look
[13:18] <davidcalle> dholbach, eek
[13:21] <davidcalle> dholbach, yes, what you need should have been enough
[13:21] <davidcalle> you did*
[13:35] <davidcalle> dholbach, see last rt reply, I'll change the parser to check for github https urls instead of "git://", work for you?
[13:40] <jose> balloons: got it, thanks!
[13:40] <jose> balloons_: mind a quick pm?
[13:41] <balloons> jose, go for it
[13:48] <dholbach> davidcalle, yep
[13:48] <dholbach> thanks!
[13:48] <davidcalle> dholbach, I've tested, using git clone https://github.com works
[14:00] <dholbach> great, thanks
[14:00] * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[14:16] <dholbach> davidcalle, so apart from the importer everything works for you after the upgrade?
[14:17] <dholbach> and not commiting everything in one transaction was what you intended to do?
[14:17] <dholbach> +# @transaction.commit_on_success()
[14:22] <davidcalle> dholbach, it triggered an error (commit_on_success doesn't seem to exist anymore), I commented it, forgot to tell you about it
[14:22] <dholbach> oh ok
[14:23] <dholbach> I'll find out how it's done now
[14:27] <davidcalle> dholbach, I haven't tried the rest extensively yet (I'm progressing on snappy IA changes)
[14:28] <dholbach> ok
[14:28] <dholbach> davidcalle, maybe mhall119, you and I can have a call about this some time soon where we try this all out together?
[14:29] <mhall119> dholbach: after OUS?
[14:30] <dholbach> yeah, everything else would be a bit optimistic
[14:31] <davidcalle> mhall119, hola, do you think we can deploy staging -> prod today?
[14:53] <mhall119> davidcalle: is everything working on staging now?
[14:56] <davidcalle> mhall119, mhall119 what was broken is still broken, but we should land analytics. Last deployment was done with the spec as broken as it is today, afair, or am I mistaken?
[14:58] <mhall119> davidcalle: if you mean the importer, yes
[14:58] <mhall119> davidcalle: are there any additional steps other than juju set build_label= needed for this update?
[14:59] <davidcalle> mhall119, nope, but my questions is: do we need all the mojo spec changes on wendigo to be brought back to trunk for a prod deployment to succeed?
[14:59] <davidcalle> mhall119, oh, I see the point of what you just said
[15:00] <davidcalle> mhall119, you can run set build_label on prod without having to redeploy the rest, right?
[15:08] <Pici> mhall119: do we need any other uos channels this cycle besides #ubuntu-uos-community, #ubuntu-uos-appdev, #ubuntu-uos-showandtell, #ubuntu-uos-convergence, #ubuntu-uos-cloud, #ubuntu-uos-overflow ?
[15:09] <Pici> Those are the 'rooms' listed on the summit site, and what channels they seem to be pointed at
[15:09] <dholbach> Pici, #ubuntu-uos-core
[15:10] <dholbach> are we going to have #ubuntu-uos in general?
[15:10] <dholbach> and how about -plenary?
[15:10] <Pici> got that
[15:10] <dholbach> ok cool
[15:10] <dholbach> that's all I can think of
[15:13] <Pici> the bots are good, just making sure that everything else is too
[15:17] <mhall119> thanks Pici
[15:30] <mhall119> popey: can you run your magic app type checking script and update the spreadsheet?
[15:31] <jose> dholbach: hey, can we make sure the bot logs the right channels? last time it logged #uds-* instead of #uos-*
[15:32] <popey> mhall119, will do, will take a while to run, will update the sheet a bit later, am afk right now on way back from conf
[15:32] <dholbach> jose, I guess that's a question for Pici?
[15:32] <jose> Pici: ^ :D
[15:32] <Pici> jose: I'm just about to file an RT ticket about it, I might need someone to kick it once I do that though
[15:33] <jose> Pici: I can make that happen. just let me know the RT# :D
[15:35] <mhall119> davidcalle: right, we can use juju set in prod still, but we should get any spec changes back into our spec branch on LP
[15:36] <mhall119> out of curiosity, what spec changes are on wendigo but not in the LP branch currencly?
[15:39] <davidcalle> mhall119, https://pastebin.canonical.com/143213/
[15:49] <mhall119> davidcalle: oh, I thought I had updated the LP branch with all that
[15:50] <mhall119> what remote branch are you comparing it to?
[15:50] <davidcalle> mojo-ue-devportal on wendigo VS https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-is/canonical-mojo-specs/mojo-ue-devportal
[15:52] <mhall119> oh, right, I couldn't push directly to that, so I made my own
[15:52] <davidcalle> mhall119, haaa ok
[15:52] <mhall119> https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/canonical-mojo-specs/devportal-fixes should have all that, but double check to make sure
[15:52] <mhall119> I need to propose it for merging
[15:57] <davidcalle> mhall119, only difference is the revno (143, we are on 144), looks good to me!
[15:57] <dholbach> balloons, davidcalle, mhall119, popey: shall we repurpose our planning call in 30m for talking about the last bits to do for UOS?
[15:58] <davidcalle> dholbach, good idea
[15:59] <mhall119> thanks davidcalle
[15:59] <mhall119> and you want the latest rev of hte production branch deployed to prod?
[15:59] <mhall119> dholbach: +1
[16:00] <mhall119> davidcalle: r144?
[16:00] <davidcalle> mhall119, yes
[16:02] <popey> dholbach, i wont be able to make it, travelling
[16:03] <popey> dholbach, but if there are things i can do this evening, let me know
[16:03] <davidcalle> dholbach, https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/developer-ubuntu-com/no-git-protocol/+merge/276411
[16:08] <davidcalle> dholbach, mhall119, have we ever talked about the possibility of switching prod to mysql? Is there any reason to use postgre over it?
[16:08] <davidcalle> (we have probably talked about it, but my memory fails me)
[16:09] <mhall119> davidcalle: postgres is the prefered database within Canonical
[16:09] <balloons> davidcalle, shall I go ahead and put your name down to present the show and tell track summaries?
[16:12] <davidcalle> balloons, I don't mind doing it, sure
[16:14] <davidcalle> mhall119, ok
[16:21] <dholbach> davidcalle, I added a couple of lose thoughts on the LP: https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/developer-ubuntu-com/no-git-protocol/+merge/276411
[16:21] <dholbach> loose
[16:23] <davidcalle> dholbach, can't see them
[16:27] <davidcalle> We should listen more to popey's ideas (online app builder where you can add blocks for rss feeds, images, flickr feed, etc) http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/11/02/microsoft-lets-you-build-apps-for-windows-10-in-less-than-10-minutes/
[16:27] <popey> heh
[16:28] <dholbach> davidcalle, inline
[16:29] <dholbach> :)
[16:29] <davidcalle> dholbach, still can't see them, have you saved the comments from the box for regular comments?
[16:31] <dholbach> davidcalle, sorry
[16:31] <dholbach> done now
[16:31] <dholbach> balloons, coming?
[16:32] <balloons> si si
[16:46] <balloons> positive thoughts to all
[16:46] <balloons> big hugs!
[16:47] <mhall119> davidcalle: prod update has been done, can you confirm the new stuff is there?
[16:47] <davidcalle> mhall119, it is :)
[16:48] <davidcalle> mhall119, thanks for pinging them. I'm glad staging is sorted out, do you need any help with the mojo spec mp?
[16:48] <mhall119> davidcalle: no, I'll file an MP and poke webops about it
[16:48] <davidcalle> ok
[16:48] <davidcalle> dholbach, mp updated
[16:48] <mhall119> davidcalle: can you check with alex about the state and location of the js scopes api docs?
[16:48] <davidcalle> mhall119, yep
[16:50] <mhall119> thanks, and will you also let thibaut know that the new analytics are live?
[16:50] <dholbach> Pici, the topic in #ubuntu-uos has a non-working URL
[16:50] <davidcalle> mhall119, done :)
[16:50] <dholbach> (and I can't talk in there)
[16:51] <Pici> that is odd
[16:51] * Pici looks
[16:51] <davidcalle> mhall119, I've asked for access to the analytics accounts, it will be useful for non-snappy things as well
[16:52] <mhall119> yes, please share with the rest of us when you get them
[16:52] <davidcalle> Yep
[16:52] <dholbach> mhall119, can you check if I forgot anything on my track leads mail?
[16:53] <davidcalle> mhall119, to sum up, with the spec fixed, all we need to do now is just do(staging)/request(prod) an update of the build label? No more tarball building at all
[16:54] <mhall119> davidcalle: correct, though there is still spec work to do so that we can use "make upgrade" rather than calling juju set
[16:55] <mhall119> dholbach: email looks good to me
[16:57] <dholbach> thanks - I wasn't sure if i hadn't forgotten anything :)
[17:07] <Pici> dholbach: logbots just flushed their outputs, so the topic links work now
[17:08] <dholbach> cool thanks, Pici
[17:10] <dholbach> all right my friends - have a great rest of your day - see you tomorrow!
[17:14] * davidcalle drives home o/
[17:15] <davidcalle> Have a nice eod all :)
[17:19] <jose> mhall119: ping
[17:27] <mhall119> jose: pong
[17:28] <mhall119> and while you're here, can you send me a topic and summary of the talk you're going to give at UbuCon/FOSSETCON?
[17:28] <jose> hehe, sure!
[17:28] <mhall119> and will you be there on the morning of the 19th to give it?
[17:28] <jose> just wondering, will uos.ubuntu.com/uds.ubuntu.com redirect to summit.u.c at some point?
[17:28] <jose> mhall119: I will. arriving on the 18th around noon
[17:29] <mhall119> jose: yes, we're waiting on a +1 from the web-team before throwing that switch
[17:29] <mhall119> jose: awesome, thanks!
[17:33] <jose> woot woot!
[17:37] <jose> oh. also, what channels do you guys want to use for plenaries? ubuntu-uos-plenary, or ubuntu-on-air?
[17:41] <mhall119> -plenary
[17:42] <jose> gotcha. will update the site accordingly
[17:47] <mhall119> thanks jose
[17:48] <jose> np
[19:44] <jcastro> hah man
[19:44] <jcastro> check out this picture of the back of daniel's head: http://www.alphr.com/business/1001892/inside-canonical-the-creators-of-ubuntu-have-big-plans-for-the-future
[19:53] <popey> mhall119, did I see you talking to Pici about irc channels earlier. Is that all setup now?
[19:55] <mhall119> popey: yes and yes
[19:59] <popey> :) super
[19:59] <popey> So many people came by the Ubuntu stand at OggCamp to play with the nexus 4 and a screen
[20:00] <popey> quite a few who had not quite understood we were this close to it landing were amazed at how well it worked
[20:00] <popey> given it landed on tuesday
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[06:33] <BotoSmoto> https://i.imgur.com/ynRVRY3.jpg # KOSOVO JE ! :)
[06:33] <BotoSmoto> Jutro, junaci !
[07:34] <BotoSmoto> koji je na UbuntuJu ispravan nacin doadvanja vise razlicitih IP adresa jednom adapteru ?
[07:35] <BotoSmoto> ethX:Y u /e/n/interfaces ili ?
[08:20] <dodobas> yutro
[08:45] <pkiller> BotoSmoto: jutro
[08:46] <BotoSmoto> \o/
[08:59] <ivoks> hello :)
[09:15] <BotoSmoto> Bok ivoks , di si danas geolociran ?
[09:27] <ivoks> u uredu :)
[09:30] <SilverSpace> dan
[09:31] <dodobas> ivoks: opet neki vrituani ured na 30000 feeta :)
[09:31] <ivoks> ne, nije, u zagrebu sam :)
[09:31] <ivoks> cijeli tjedan
[09:50] <pkiller> jel ima netko od vas profesionalaca neke migracijske skripte ili sve radite ručno kada sa servera na server treba nešto prebaciti?
[09:50] <jelly> ovisi što je točno "nešto"
[09:58] <BotoSmoto> i sto je "server" :)
[09:58] <BotoSmoto> zakaj pises s HR znacima, jelly ? :)
[09:58] <BotoSmoto> Si u pol' nekog maila Shefu ? :)
[10:02] <pkiller> jelly: same old same old... postavke, aplikacije (neka skripta za apt-getat sve šta je bilo na prijašnjem serveru) MySQL baza?
[10:03] <BotoSmoto> pkiller: dpkg ti moze napraviti listu trenutnih paketa, imas etckeeper za kopiranje konfiguracija ( ili ih turi sve u git ! ) , baze mozes dumpati ili replicirati.
[10:03] <pkiller> etckeeper is a real thing?
[10:03] <BotoSmoto> "profesionalci" imaju orkestracijski softver i predloske za masine, dvojim da ti to treba
[10:04] <BotoSmoto> etckeeper FTW ! ;)
[10:05] <pkiller> nažalost sa tim imam iskustva :) cijelu prošlu zimu sam se igrao sa coreos i fleet i sličnim docker orkestratorima
[10:05] <BotoSmoto> i nisi to iskoristio da si napravis reda , nego sad pjeske migriras softver :)
[10:05] <BotoSmoto> .lol pkiller
[10:06] <BotoSmoto> -pal pkiller
[10:06] <BotoSmoto> .pal pkiller
[10:06] <BotoSmoto> %"$#%&#$
[10:06] * datase points at pkiller and laughs uproariously.
[10:06] <BotoSmoto> datase: thanks
[10:06] <datase> No problem sweetie!
[10:12] <pkiller> BotoSmoto: previše je to Cutting EDGE za mene... :) nisam imao neki logičan način za persistent storage :)
[10:12] <BotoSmoto> mENI JE edge PRE SPOR KAD GLEDAM PORNJAVU NA MOBITELMeni je EDGE pre spor za pornjavu na mobitelu :D
[10:13] <pkiller> haha Internet Edgesplorer
[10:13] <BotoSmoto> lol
[10:21] <jelly> BotoSmoto: obično odgovaram s kvačicama ak je sugovornik započeo š njimi
[10:21] <BotoSmoto> Sad kad si rekao, mailom/chatom i ja, na IRCu mi je to svjesni napor
[10:22] <jelly> možda imaš šugavi irc klijent koji izgleda kao terminal
[10:22] <BotoSmoto> irssi u fullscreenu s fontom velicine 36 ! naknadno bluran, frekvu monitora sam forsao na 30 'erca :)
[10:22] <BotoSmoto> Narancasta slova, fkors
[10:24] <BotoSmoto> E! Nakon nadogradnje na tuntor 15.10 napokon monitor na DVI kvacki moze imati svoju, a telka na HDMIju moze svoju, prije mi je sve spustao na najmanju zajednicku
[10:26] <pkiller> ja imam HP-ovu HR tastaturu pa znam slučajno pisati sa kvačicama :)
[10:27] <BotoSmoto> Ali mi je nestala OwnCloud ikona iz traya .. sync radi ..
[10:31] <api984> da
[10:31] <api984> dan
[10:31] <api984> lepo vas pozdravljam. kaj ima…
barba je reka da imaju urod 10% prošlogodišnje količine <Tina> one kasnije mandarine da su nešto ove godine obolile, pa će biti samo ovih šta prve dozrijevaju
[10:55] <BotoSmoto> Tja, ovo je isto k'o kad kupujes drogu, prvo potratis desetljece da nadjes dobrog dilera, onda skuzis da ih trebas tri :(
[10:56] <dodobas> i onda lik umre... i hebiga ...
[11:04] <obrut> jelly ! jel moja narudzba prezivjela ? kad bih to mogao pokupit ?
[11:12] <BotoSmoto> sorry obrut , bilo nas je puno, svi gladni, mandarine idu s pivom ..
[11:13] <BotoSmoto>
[11:13] <BotoSmoto> https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12187856_10207966152301338_4077278176272901039_n.jpg?oh=6f3ab4ffbd7196b42c22c3af769c9a71&oe=56B05BA9
[11:14] <dodobas> hahahah
[11:26] <SilverSpace> BotoSmoto: mandarine i pivo :) sigurno ste bili na drogama :P
[11:27] <BotoSmoto> Tko bi me "cist" trpio ? :)
[11:27] <obrut> BotoSmoto: jebga, dok se ja skicem po inostranstvu drugi piju i jedu :)
[11:27] <BotoSmoto> Di si bio, sto si pio ? :)
[11:28] <obrut> bijah u Vienni, EU pgconf... sve puno nekih postgres geekova
[11:28] <BotoSmoto> El pivo bilo bolje od predavanja ? :D
[11:29] <obrut> nisam pio pivu :( samo malo vina :)
[11:29] <obrut> i mnogo kave
[11:29] <BotoSmoto> Bleh, vino je uvijek bolje od predavanja :)
[11:29] <BotoSmoto> Kaj si naucio ?
[11:29] <obrut> sve ;) od lowlevel implementacije indexa do novih ficura u sql-u :)
[11:30] <BotoSmoto> Nda, ono kaj sam prvo trebao pitat' : kakve si goodiese dobio ?
[11:32] <dodobas> ide tko na Fosdem ?
[11:37] <obrut> BotoSmoto: nist pametno, majice i par sitnica
[11:37] <BotoSmoto> Pocinjem dovoditi u pitanje opravdanost tvog puta ! Jesi se bar slikao s nekim poznatim ? :D
[11:38] <obrut> nisam, ali sam ufotkao pratkicki sve sudionike :)
[11:38] <obrut> bilo je malo zenskih, ali par zgodnih !
[11:38] <obrut> programerki cak stovise
[11:39] <BotoSmoto> *gasp* De slike ! Znao sam da sam to morao prije pitati !
[11:44] <SilverSpace> sunce
[11:44] <BotoSmoto> reci,ljubice ?
[11:44] <SilverSpace> gadis mi se :)
[11:44] <SilverSpace> )*
[11:44] <BotoSmoto> Nisi ni ti neka cvecka :)
[11:45] <SilverSpace> BotoSmoto: kaj danas jesti ?
[11:46] <SilverSpace> gladan ko pas
[11:46] <BotoSmoto> SilverSpace: meseko i zapeceni grah kod mene , to ti je kad delam od doma pa stignem nekaj i skuhat'
[11:46] * SilverSpace treba ideju neku
[11:46] <BotoSmoto> juce smo mlince tukli :)
[11:46] <SilverSpace> da i kod mene patka mlinci bili jucer
[11:47] <BotoSmoto> Ako ti se ne da, napravi francuski krumpir, to je za cas gotovo
[11:47] <SilverSpace> to mi je jutros sestra rekla :)
[11:47] <BotoSmoto> De i ti sliku, sestre :)
[11:47] * BotoSmoto se sakrije pod kamen
[11:49] <SilverSpace> BotoSmoto: gledam u album bome nigdje slike :)
[11:51] <BotoSmoto> Iha, kreni traziti po analognim slikama, sigurno imas neke pionirske :)
[11:54] <SilverSpace> fakat nema nigdje po slikama :)
[11:54] <SilverSpace> zato sebe našo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/966116/_AmurHinet1.jpg
[11:55] <BotoSmoto> Djecarac :)
[11:55] <SilverSpace> 30.06.2003
[11:56] <BotoSmoto> hmm, imal sam 26, talijanku i manje od 80kg tada :)
[11:57] <SilverSpace> imam ljusku od tog Amura i na njoj sam datum napisao
[11:57] <BotoSmoto> +1
[11:58] <SilverSpace> 12kg
[12:10] <jelly> oh l'Amur
[12:11] <jelly> obrut: prezivjela jedva, kad god oces
[12:12] <obrut> jel ti ok danas nakon posla ?
[12:13] <obrut> ti zivis tamo negdje blizu iskona ?
[12:13] <jelly> obrut: ok je; da
[12:27] <SilverSpace> jelly: odlican je bio na sa rostilja :)
[12:28] <jelly> tak i zgleda :-]
[12:29] <hbogner> o/
[12:58] <SilverSpace> obrut: http://is.gd/iGmtnM
[13:09] <obrut> bas lijepo... 14:09:17 up 2075 days, 1:26, 2 users, load average: 1033.30, 308.85, 106.59
[13:10] <SilverSpace> win ili lin
[13:11] <BotoSmoto> kak ces dobit' windowse da ti daju load ? :D
[13:14] <SilverSpace> Kineski putnicki avion ?
[13:14] <SilverSpace> hm
[13:14] <SilverSpace> BotoSmoto: lol nisam citao do kraja :
[13:15] <BotoSmoto> Zakaj ? F0n zeljezne ptice, dovoljno sigurne da voze ljude, rade !
[13:17] <BotoSmoto> Mi ne radimo ni gume za kotace tak neceg :)
[13:20] <pkiller> obrut: 26.02.2010 se zadnji put restartao? :)
[13:20] <SilverSpace> BotoSmoto: a kaj ja znam meni to kaj rade kinezi sve izgleda slampavo
[13:21] <BotoSmoto> SilverSpace: to je zato kaj kupujemo njihov trash. Imaju izvrsnih proizvoda, ali onda vise nisu "kineske" cijene. Gledaj taj avion u kontekstu industrije potrebne da se napravi.
[13:21] <obrut> pkiller: pa davno se restartao, da....
[13:30] <SilverSpace> http://net.hr/cafe/obrana-te-zastita/
[13:52] <BotoSmoto> *did you enjoy reading thru my dmesg?* ahahahahahaha
[13:56] <jelly> wink wink, nudge nudge
[13:57] <BotoSmoto> A dobro, citao sam i gore :) #nerdpickuplines
[14:33] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan :)
[14:50] <hbogner> ajde, napredak, nakon jos jednog ponavljanja da je backup otisao dolazimo do toga da se uzima novi hardver :D
[15:42] <SilverSpace> pili
[15:50] <Mmike> super je s dockerom sto odmah slozi firewall
[15:50] <Mmike> s lxcom se moras jebavat s time
[15:50] <Mmike> glupi linode ima macfiiltering
[15:50] <Mmike> pa tamo bridgeanje lxcova ne radi
[15:50] <Mmike> cini se
[15:53] <jelly> step 1) slozis vpn
[15:58] <dodobas> jel radio tko s open Vswitch? ako imam 2 servera s dvije javne IP adrese, mogu li transparentno 'rutati' promet prema internim adresama
[15:58] <dodobas> koje se mogu nalaziti na bilo kojem od dva servera
[15:59] <jelly> nisam al zvuci zgodno, a i jedan od kandidata za posal je pricao da su to koristili u kombinaciji s vmwaretom pa valjda radi
[16:00] <jelly> nama inace vmware VDS radi dovoljno dobro, al kod njih nije radio zadovoljavajuce
[16:02] <dodobas> jelly: pitam nacelno, jer mrezarenje sam naucio koliko je trebalo
[16:08] <jelly> s obzirom da je lik bio iz relativno ozbiljne firme to mi govori da proizvod nije bas neko tipicno open-source smece nego nest i vrijedi
[16:16] <jobenty> pozdrav svima
[16:17] <jobenty> evo instalirao sam ubuntu i sad imam opet neka pitanja
[16:18] <jobenty> na ubuntu hr lijepo piše "ako imate nekih problema slobodno se javite na naš irc kanal"
[16:19] <jobenty> zamolio bih nekoga tko ima malo vremena da mi kaže mogu li izabrati i neke druge rezolucije ekrana ili biram samo od onih 5 koje su mi ponuđene u setings display
[16:25] <jelly> biraš onih 5, ali jedna od tih bi trebala biti ispravna, fizička rezolucija za taj izlazni uređaj (monitor spojen na taj port)
[16:26] <jobenty> jasno ali želim manju rezoluciju jer mi je ovo sve pre sitno
[16:26] <jelly> jobenty: u terminalu, naredba "xrandr" ili "xrandr -q" prikaže prepoznate izlaze i rezolucije
[16:27] <jobenty> hvala
[16:27] <jobenty> a u terminalu onda mogu i promjeniti
[16:27] <jobenty> ???
[16:28] <jobenty> najviše mi ustvari odgovara ona rezolucija koja je napravljena za TV a ne za monitore
[16:28] <jobenty> to j negdje oko 1300 ali nisam siguran koliko točnođ
[16:30] <jelly> možeš u terminalu i promijeniti, da, ali bi vjerojatno tu istu rezu trebao moći postaviti i kroz GUI
[16:30] <hbogner> o/
[16:30] <jelly> jobenty: stavi output od xrandr na http://paste.ubuntu.com pa ovdje pošalji link na taj paste
[16:39] <SilverSpace> LN
[16:39] <jobenty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13083355/
[16:39] <jobenty> evo
[16:40] <SilverSpace> jobenty: koju bi ti rezu
[16:40] <jelly> 1366x768 vjerojatno
[16:40] <jobenty> e to to
[16:41] <jobenty> to mi ne na xp-u radilo
[16:41] <jelly> eh, stavi monitor bliže i koristi native 1920 :-)
[16:41] <SilverSpace> ako su ti sitna slova povecas samo slova
[16:41] <jobenty> ma probao sam povećavati slova ali dođe do nekih nepravilnosti u pregledu
[16:42] <jelly> nešto poput http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984990&p=11959500#post11959500
[16:43] <jelly> treba probati kako će to monitor na DVI-0 podnijeti, i također ne znam kako napraviti da se to automatski postavi kod boota
[16:45] <SilverSpace> jelly: po tome je uvijek rizicno kopati
[16:46] <jobenty> a vama to sa povećanim slovima radio ok
[16:46] <jobenty> ???
[16:47] <jelly> manje-više da, al ja na ubuntu koristim terminal, chrome i firefox i to je to
[16:48] <jobenty> dajte mi molim vas neki link sa svim mogućim naredbama za terminal
[16:48] <jobenty> ja chrome ne koristim
[16:49] <jelly> heh, svim mogućim
[16:50] <jobenty> da
[16:50] <jobenty> heh
[16:50] <jobenty> pa dobro više nego za početnike
[16:50] <jelly> http://cli.learncodethehardway.org/bash_cheat_sheet.pdf
[16:51] <jobenty> a jelly ti to imaš sve u glavi ili koristiš nekakav popis
[16:51] <jobenty> to te ja pitam HVALA
[16:51] <jelly> nemam ništa u glavi, samo google
[16:52] <jobenty> ma da
[16:52] <jobenty> ko bi to sve držao u glavi
[16:52] <jelly> (nije istina, nakon 15+ godina nešto ima i glavi, ali bitnije je kako naći na netu i prepoznati žito od kukolja u rezultatima, nego što je zapamćeno)
[16:52] <jobenty> kad sam polagao CCNA napunio glavu i više ništ nemože stat u nju
[16:53] <jelly> ne isplati se punit glavu napamet, puno bolje radit u praksi nešto
[16:54] <SilverSpace> ja imam aliase za terminal
[16:54] <jelly> https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+cli+cheat+sheet # je bila google pretraga
[16:54] <SilverSpace> tako da su mi brzo sve naredbe dostupne
[16:54] <jelly> to je ok za po doma, a kad dođeš za neki novi stroj di nemaš svoje aliase pri ruci...
[16:55] <jelly> onda kucaj brate i editiraj vim-om
[16:55] <SilverSpace> jelly: ponesem txt datoteku sa njma :)
[16:55] <jelly> glede vim-a http://vim-adventures.com/
[16:56] <SilverSpace> vi sam pozabio dosta
[16:56] <jelly> brb ubit će me obrut
[16:56] <SilverSpace> vim*
[16:56] <SilverSpace> jelly: lol mandarinke
[17:10] <jelly> ae
[17:14] <jelly> hm ne zove me obrut, idem dole vidit da ne cekamo jedan drugog
[18:42] <hbogner> jel netko od vas koristi openmediavault?
[18:50] <hbogner> gledam dal da dizem openmediavault ili da se igram sa ubuntu serverom i rcunom konfiguracijom, primaran funkcija stroja je file storage
[18:57] <vileni> imao sam ja jedan omv
[18:58] <vileni> prvi problem je sto ti neda da slozis raid pri instalaciji
[18:58] <hbogner> da, vidio sam
[18:58] <vileni> i koristio kompletan disk
[18:58] <hbogner> da, za to bi stavio mali sata disk
[18:59] <hbogner> a dtorage bi bila dva posebna diska
[19:07] <vileni> da, ali retardirano je da ne mozes sam sloziti
[19:07] <vileni> tj ja sam nakon instalacije butao livecd i resajzao root particiju da dobijem ostatak diska
[19:11] <hbogner> :D
[19:12] <hbogner> ma mislim da cu piknut na super kocku ubuntu server i njega nastimat kao file storage, ali onda mogu jos neke stvari radit na njemu, a ne samo file storage
[19:12] <vileni> fora je sto ima pluginove, i neko klikabilno sucelje
[19:12] <vileni> poor mans synology
[19:12] <hbogner> da, vidio klikabilno sucelje i plugine
[19:13] <hbogner> kaj bi ti radje synology ili super kocku?
[19:14] <hbogner> uspio sefa napokon nagovorit da uzme nesto bolje od kucnog NAS-a
[19:18] <vileni> pa sve zavisi, da imam para nebi se bunio na synology
[19:18] <vileni> i da mi treba samo storage
[19:19] <vileni> ali ja sam si slozio am1 plocu, athlon x4, 8gb rama, fractal 304, 450w napajanje, i 4 diska
[19:19] <vileni> tih, mali komp, stane 6 diskova, a vrtim kvm gore sa nekoliko virtualki, samba share i jos par sitnica
[19:23] <hbogner> to doma?
[19:23] <vileni> da
[19:23] <hbogner> fora
[19:26] <vileni> sad moram povecati diskove
[19:27] <vileni> i sloziti zvuk da mi radi za steam big picture
[19:27] <vileni> posto sam ga i na tv spojio :)
[19:29] <api984> vileni: steamOS?
[19:33] <vileni> api984: nije, samo steam instaliran u ubuntu
[19:33] <vileni> ali ta je ideja
[19:33] <vileni> razmisljam da li ici na 6 diskova ili 4 + gpu
[19:33] <api984> vileni: to bi bila fora…. uuuu….
[19:34] <api984> vileni: meni steam nece da radi
[19:34] <vileni> ideja je da bi streamao igre sa desktop stroja
[19:34] <vileni> posto tu imam r9 280x
[19:34] <vileni> i mozda steam controller za potpuni dozivljaj
[19:34] <api984> vileni: cool
[19:34] <api984> vileni: nema jos kod nas?
[19:34] <api984> vileni: steam controller…
[19:40] <vileni> api984: mislim da se moze naruciti
[19:41] <api984> vileni: amazon mozda?
[19:42] <CrazyLemon> imaš na steam store steam controller
[19:42] <api984> CrazyLemon: k
[19:43] <CrazyLemon> 54€
[21:36] <obrut> i tak...
[21:37] <obrut> jel vozi tko tu kakvu fullku mozda ? biciklin, je li... :)
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[00:53] <user___> asdf
[00:53] <user___> testing
[00:54] <daftykins> don't do that here.
[00:54] <user___> oh no, I ruined the discussion
[00:54] <daftykins> use #test in future :)
[00:54] <user___> ok, that was actually helpful. thanks
[00:55] <daftykins> assholes.
[01:33] <TJ-> daftykins: I saw you had a question for me at 22:10 on Friday evening I think it was :)
[01:52] <daftykins> TJ-: ah yes, i'm on the wrong PC today though for the logs - but there was a guy with a 15.10 install on a modern MSI gaming spec laptop that i couldn't get optimus working with (as in nvidia-prime)
[01:54] <TJ-> I recall a few months ago we discovered that nvidia-prime would not work with MUX-less Optimus chipsets; not sure if that is still the case or not
[01:54] <TJ-> I believe at that time at least it was noted in the -prime README or release notes
[01:56] <TJ-> There's a /usr/bin/prime-supported that generates /var/log/prime-supported.log, which may be useful in such cases
[01:56] <daftykins> ooh nifty, the guy just got a blank screen i think
[01:57] <TJ-> That whole Optimus MUX-less seems stupid if the driver won't/can't support it
[01:57] <daftykins> i'd have to be on that old laptop to dig up the logs sadly, but i noticed interesting lines in the Xorg log which seemed to refer to each GPU being detected and somehow referring to VT7 and VT8 for each
[01:58] <TJ-> I wonder if it also depends on which version of the main nvida driver is in use as to whether MUX-less support is enabled
[01:58] <daftykins> i was aiming for 352 there
[01:59] <daftykins> guy had a GTX 970M
[01:59] <daftykins> minimum for that is 346 i believe
[01:59] <TJ-> I think I'm limited to 340
[02:01] <daftykins> i got bored and priced up a skylake build :) top end i7, motherboard, 32GB RAM, case... £500
[02:02] <TJ-> will it fit in a laptop?
[02:03] <daftykins> hahaha
[02:03] <daftykins> i'd still eye up a Dell XPS 13 9350 for the mobile portion :)
[02:03] <TJ-> I've not found anything recently as flexible as these Dell XPS M1530s I use; the number of full PCIe ports, expresscard, cellular, etc
[02:09] <TJ-> Eeeek! pies in the oven! *runs*
[02:10] <daftykins> D:
[02:19] <TJ-> Just right! That's the last of 4kg of patry turned into pies :)
[02:20] <daftykins> O_O that's a lorra pie
[02:20] <cfhowlett> TJ-, will send you my address via pm. haven't had decent pie in way too long ...
[02:20] <TJ-> yeah, trying to turn all the fruit into frozen pies for the year ahead
[02:20] <daftykins> mmm
[02:21] <TJ-> cfhowlett: LOL! i hate to think what they'd cost to ship, they're full to the brim with fruit. I almost dropped 2 getting them out the oven... came over hot-n-cold sweat when I slipped :)
[02:22] <TJ-> I think I've managed about 40 8"x5" and 20 4" rounds today
[02:22] * cfhowlett thinks for the next A-Z ubuntu, we should adopt the names of delicacies, e.g. Terrific Tapioca
[02:22] <TJ-> Hmmmm.... Ample Apple, Barmy Banana, Chocolate Chip ?
[02:22] <daftykins> XD
[02:23] <cfhowlett> TJ-, chocolate chip for the win!
[02:23] <TJ-> :D
[02:23] <TJ-> Get mixed up with Android no doubt :)
[02:26] <Bashing-om> Did I head chocolate chip ?// I did I did hear chocolate chip ... um ummmm .
[02:27] <TJ-> LOL brings out the choccie monsters every time
[02:28] <TJ-> Worst part is the washing/cleaning up afterwards. I seem to be able to make more mess baking than with electronics!
[02:28] <daftykins> !cookie | all_of_us
[02:28] <daftykins> 8D
[02:31] <TJ-> And where's my chocolate chips!?
[02:31] <daftykins> on the cookies!
[02:31] <TJ-> hmmm... who stole my chips!?
[02:32] <TJ-> I suspect Bashing-om in the pantry with the biscuit cutter
[02:33] <cfhowlett> That's a book title isn't it, TJ?
[02:33] <TJ-> It soon could be :D
[02:33] <daftykins> XD
[02:33] <Bashing-om> One can tell by the smirk on the face .
[02:36] <TJ-> ... and the chocolate smears on the lips
[02:36] <daftykins> and the evil cackle
[02:42] <daftykins> TJ-: oh that reminds me, the user i'm thinking of with nvidia, his xorg log would say 'nomodeset' on the kernel boot params despite not being in /etc/default/grub nor being visible if editing the line in GRUB by hand
[02:42] <daftykins> confused me hugely
[02:44] <TJ-> really? that is foing to cause problems if true. I always check with "cat /proc/cmdline" if in doubt
[02:44] <TJ-> s/foing/going/
[02:45] <daftykins> 'cause he'd get a blank screen the only way i could get him to check his logs was mounting the disk and reading the log from a live session
[02:49] <TJ-> well nomodeset would do that. The problem we have is now by default GRUB puts the GPU into GFX mode, so if we have nomodeset the kernel cannot switch it but the drivers try to write to the console framebuffer which isn't being displayed nor can be switched to
[02:50] <daftykins> all signs pointed to the parameter coming from nowhere :(
[02:51] <daftykins> anywho i dunno if he'll come back
[02:53] <TJ-> always check /proc/cmdline or verify the timestamps in the Xorg.X.log are correct and current; I've been caught out where the log is from a prior boot because the log file name is different. I often ask the user to do "ls -latr /var/log" to identify the most recent log file
[02:54] <daftykins> hmm
[02:55] <daftykins> i hoped getting the guy to do his failed boot, power off... then boot live would show the right file
[02:55] <daftykins> ah maybe it would've remained xorg.0.log if the file was never updated, so maybe after installing the driver his system never got that far... that could be it
[02:56] <TJ-> the file may also be renamed/backed-up if a failsafe session starts
[02:56] <TJ-> "dmesg | grep NVRM" is useful to check if there's been any Nvidia problems this boot
[02:57] <daftykins> mmm he didn't even get TTYs at the time :(
[02:59] <TJ-> best thing to do when there's no TTYs is /etc/default/grub "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" to disable GFX mode
[03:12] <TJ-> I'm feeling surrounded in #ubuntu!
[03:17] <Bashing-om> TJ-: You are ^^, and small backup is fixing to bail on you . Calling it a night .
[03:18] <TJ-> yeah, gone 3am here, still got washing up to finish, grr
[03:18] <TJ-> might have to have an apple pie :D
[03:18] <daftykins> ooh ooh i'll help!
[03:19] * Bashing-om remembers licking the spoon when Mom made fudge candies .
[03:20] <daftykins> 8D
[03:21] <TJ-> I am terrible for licking out the bowl after making fruit cake... I reckon the unbaked mixture is tastier than the cake
[03:21] <TJ-> Poor Huskies don't get a look-in!
[03:21] <daftykins> hahaha, i can imagine the groans from them
[03:21] <daftykins> "aroooo"
[03:22] <TJ-> That's a good impression of Pepper!
[03:22] <Bashing-om> TJ-: We have 3 4-legged children .. If we eat it ... they will ..pepper included ( and tomatoes ) . And OH, how they can beg !
[03:23] <Bashing-om> good night ... I do call it .
[03:23] <TJ-> night night
[03:24] <daftykins> i think i'm gonna scoot too, too tired for this baseball :)
[03:24] <daftykins> bye folks
[03:24] <TJ-> night!
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-16-04-release-schedule-release-schedule-date-xenial-xerus
[09:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:49] <Dylan____> Yo
[09:49] <Dylan____> Is a Ubuntu bot here??
[10:27] <lordievader> Dylan____: Yes, ubot5
[10:27] <lordievader> !bot
[12:03] <EriC^^> afternoon lotuspsychje
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> all ok mate?
[12:03] <EriC^^> i'm good, thanks, you?
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> fine fine tnx going for sunny walk later
[12:04] <EriC^^> cool
[12:04] <EriC^^> how's xenial going?
[12:04] <EriC^^> did you fix the wifi?
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> fine, got first updates
[12:04] <EriC^^> cool
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> but no wifi yet, got to connect with cable
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> i asked the #kernel guys and a guy said its impossible lspci doesnt wanna show the card
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: cant find nothing disabled in bios..
[12:05] <EriC^^> yeah that's super odd
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: so next what ill be testing is a live trusty usb
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> to see if card gets recognized
[12:06] <EriC^^> sounds good
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> so we sure its about the kernel or not
[12:06] <EriC^^> yeah
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> but xenial itself is rocknroll
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> libreoffice 5, firefox 42
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> booting from the ssd xenial?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:36] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, yes
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> nice
[12:37] <BluesKaj> samsung evo 850 250Gb ssd
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> cfhowletttttttttttttttt
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i cant get my wifi to work on xenial, think it could be kernel related?
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: tryed swithing pci slots, but lspci even doesnt show the card
[12:41] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: worked fine on trusty
[12:42] <BluesKaj> I haven't upgraded my laptop to Xenial yet, still on Wily ....which wifi chip ?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje,^
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: its a linksys pci card ralink corp
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> not sure wich type anymore
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: ill test later on trusty usb, to see if it gets recognized still there
[12:44] <BluesKaj> oh ralink is quite common, odd that lspci doesn't see it
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> yeah weird
[12:45] <BluesKaj> but it is very early in the OS development stage
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> yeah ill connect with cable for nox
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> no sweat
[12:46] <BluesKaj> is this desktop wifi?
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> yes
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> because my box is upstairs
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> got 2 antena's
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> and linksys are very wide range devices
[12:47] <BluesKaj> ok that's not real common, but it should be workable
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yeah like i say, things worked like a charm before on trusty
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> ill let you know when i test trusty live again
[12:49] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:57] <OerHeks> Now who is it, EriC^^ ...
[17:00] <EriC^^> no idea
[17:00] <EriC^^> i tried grep -r "ip.*joined" .. nothing showed up
[17:00] <EriC^^> i think he's trolling or confused
[17:02] <EriC^^> ah found him
[17:03] <OerHeks> oh, panv troll ..
[17:03] <OerHeks> that dude is using many names, i guess.
[20:07] <wileee> heh got a virus warning on my samsung linux running tv, when I called up the browser
[20:07] <wileee> a popup anyway
[20:08] <wileee> blocked the browser, did a reset on the TV no issue now
[20:09] <OerHeks> this ? voice activation alert http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31296188
[20:09] <OerHeks> i was planning to buy a tv, sure no smart tv for now.
[20:10] <wileee> mine doesn't have that option, samsung has an addon device, must be on that with other stuff.
[20:11] <OerHeks> all those pixels are just little eyes, watching you
[20:11] <wileee> lol, I felt the tingling
[20:15] <wileee> some file missing was the warning, knowing linux av, it's a tag you have to investigate for an answer, could be anything
[21:17] <TJ-> anyone know if 'weva' sorted out his mysterious GUI-induced encryption lock-out ?
[21:20] <OerHeks> nope
[22:32] <daftykins> another joker in charge of systems they shouldn't be ;)
[22:33] <OerHeks> questions ending with :P
[22:35] <Bashing-om> Yall, just pardon me; I may become moreso the shy retiring type .
[22:35] <daftykins> Bashing-om: d'aww why-so?
[22:39] <daftykins> uh oh wessles is back
[22:39] <daftykins> prepare yourselves!
[22:39] <TJ-> These people that think we can tell them with 100% certainity how to manage their own remote systems, but when we suggest they test the solution first, don't want to know! Shouldn't be let loose in charge of systems at all
[22:42] <daftykins> *nod* must be kids imo
[22:42] <daftykins> same with the one that wants help setting up the mumble thing
[22:42] <TJ-> I think many of them are so-called 'DevOps' with no Ops and very little Dev!
[22:44] <daftykins> :)
[22:55] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Presently, just not in the mood to do their thinking for them .
[22:59] <daftykins> ah indeed, i feel much the same - we've been swamped with a lot of undesirables the last few days
[23:02] <Bashing-om> Constantly amazed, Ask for help, we give a recommendation, and off they go on some wild tangent .
[23:32] <daftykins> *nod* :(
[23:32] <daftykins> EriC^: evening o/
[23:33] <EriC^> evening o/
[23:33] <daftykins> all the circumflexes!
[23:34] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: WB .
[23:34] <EriC^^> thx Bashing-om
[23:35] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Hoz the job hunt progressing ?
[23:35] <EriC^^> not much
[23:38] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Well, something is bound to turn up .
[23:38] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:38] <EriC^^> i'll probably look later or something
[23:39] <TJ-> Going to be quiet for a few days; UOS starts Tuesday
[23:39] <EriC^^> does anybody like skating and have shockwave?
[23:40] <EriC^^> nevermind
[23:42] <daftykins> TJ-: what's that?
[23:43] <TJ-> Ubuntu Online Summit - the successor of the UDS
[23:43] <TJ-> http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[23:46] <EriC^^> troll season i see
[23:46] <TJ-> might be worth following the 'convergence' track to figure out the ramifications of the Unity 8 transition, snap, and so on
[23:46] <EriC^^> ( in #ubuntu right now )
[23:48] <daftykins> been non-stop idiots for days :(
[23:49] <TJ-> I think the Core track, EFI session tomorrow at 1500 UTC will be interesting: EFI Capsule Update and Fallback: "Ubuntu should support updating firmware for systems and components; we should also further define the behavior for EFI fallbacks."
[23:50] <daftykins> O_O
[23:51] <EriC^^> nice
[23:58] <TJ-> indeed, I think I'll weigh in on that one
[23:58] <daftykins> :D
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[00:00] <ajacmac> python 3.4, dur
[00:00] <frostschutz> weva, cryptsetup works with image files too, so you can cryptsetup luksDump some.image to see if it's LUKS or not
[00:00] <ajacmac> it installed to 2.7 by default
[00:00] <frostschutz> weva, or did you mean you are migrating an unencrypted one to luks?
[00:05] <weva> frostschutz, I tried it not with luksdump, but with luksopen, and the results were the same for different disk images I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13075829/
[00:05] <weva> I tried it with the mounted images that I had difficulty unmounting in the recent session
[00:06] <frostschutz> weva, cryptsetup would create (and remove) the necessary loop devices for you
[00:06] <frostschutz> weva, what does 'file the.image' say?
[00:08] <DJ_> Hi All, does anyone have any advice on Research and implementing a mail server with ubuntu server 14.04.3? I am new to these kinds of "Big boy" projects and would like to learn how to research these kinds of things
[00:08] <niee> hi. i write "su -l" to give a root, now i need to typed "sudo -i". how to fix this. i want to give a root after typed "su -l"
[00:08] <weva> frostschutz, it says "image.dd: data"
[00:09] <ulkesh> DJ_: Found on the google: http://www.tecmint.com/setup-postfix-mail-server-in-ubuntu-debian/ hope it helps!
[00:10] <k1l> niee: on ubuntu we use sudo. so we use sudo -i to get a root shell
[00:10] <frostschutz> weva, so it's not a known type, filesystem, luks, or raid image... were you expecting it to be?
[00:10] <DJ_> ulkesh, While I appreciate thel link share I am not asking for an article to blindly follow. I am reaching out to ask how the community Plans their implemenations and researchs their products
[00:11] <CrazyLegz> hi
[00:11] <weva> frostschutz, this was a partition that I properly created as encrypted, and then transferred 2,5 gb of files into, and locked before powering off the drive. in the next session, the partition was shown as "unknown"
[00:11] <niee> kl1 but befor in my ubuntu 11.04 i use "su -l" to give a root shell.
[00:11] <ulkesh> DJ_: pardon me, then
[00:12] <quantic> niee: then it was improperly configured.
[00:12] <HoloIRCUser> ok, not sure how well this will come across, so work with me. I have a new HP Envy computer. I bough an SSD that im trying to upgrade it to. Ihave been trying to clone the partitions, but i cant seem to boot into windows 10. ( i have been using DD to clone it). SO - WOuld you suggest or believe that intead of using the parittion command, and went for the entire drive, it would work? My Other question, is that, the origianal
[00:12] <weva> I dont know what happened, but 2,5gb of data must be somewhere inside, as I haven't deleted any file, folder or partition
[00:15] <quantic> niee: The Ubuntu standard is that you use sudo to elevate, such as using "sudo -i" to gain a root shell.
[00:15] <quantic> niee: If that's what is now necessary - Great! It's working as it should.
[00:15] <frostschutz> weva, encrypted as in LUKS? you need to find the LUKS header then
[00:16] <DJ_> uklesh, I'm not trying to be a dick, promise
[00:16] <daftykins> hopefully your LUKS not run out
[00:16] <niee> ok. tnx for help :)
[00:16] <quantic> daftykins: oh, nicely done
[00:16] <nanotech> hello
[00:16] <daftykins> quantic: thanks :D
[00:16] <daftykins> so glad someone noticed ;_;
[00:17] <nanotech> hello
[00:17] <Guest83556> hello
[00:17] <ulkesh> DJ_: No worries, I gotcha :) I assumed too quickly and didn't properly read your original question. Apologies here :)
[00:18] <weva> frostschutz, yes, it is luks encrypted. but, aside from the question how i can find the header, does it help when the file is not shown as an encrypted ext4 filesystem?
[00:18] <quantic> weva: because until its decrypted, how would the system know it's a filesystem at all?
[00:18] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, transfering windows is beyond the scope of this channel, in ##windows they should be able to tell how without activation problems
[00:18] <weva> quantic, so it's shown as unknown because it's encrypted?
[00:18] <quantic> weva: Being able to determine what type of filesystem exists inside an encrypted container would be an information leak.
[00:18] <frostschutz> weva, normally, testdisk should find LUKS headers... if you're looking for alternatives, 'sudo strings -t d /where/to/look | grep LUKS' (but it will give you false matches as well)
[00:19] <HoloIRCUser> OerHeks. i know- but they refer me to here because im using DD
[00:19] <davegri> Can anyone recommend a good laptop, reliable best bang-for-buck. Minimum specs: [15.6",1600x900,4GB RAM,option for ssd upgrade] under $1000?
[00:19] <Guest83556> literally any 300$ laptop will do
[00:20] <HoloIRCUser> davegri - yoga
[00:20] <davegri> Most $300 laptops don't have those specs or they are complete shit
[00:20] <davegri> Yeah I'm leaning towards Lenovo
[00:20] <davegri> I've never actually owned a laptop though so I have shit-all experience
[00:20] <HoloIRCUser> oh :/
[00:21] <HoloIRCUser> the yoga is hot- but ur cant mod it. SO- maybe something HP or ... less slim line.
[00:21] <ajacmac> I got mine used for $500~ with 8 gigs of ram, I just put in a caddy for an ssd where the cd drive was
[00:21] <baiter> laptops suck
[00:21] <HoloIRCUser> yeah.. i got a new HP that im messing with on the same way.
[00:21] <ajacmac> the screen isn't 1600*900 though
[00:21] <weva> quantic, I understand. the root cause seems to be something gone wrong in the filesystem, because not all the partitions have become "unknown", there are intact luks partitions.
[00:21] <HoloIRCUser> yeah, true- but they are portable.
[00:21] <baiter> they have heat issues, speed issues, interface is shit
[00:21] <davegri> How is this deal? http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-20DF0040US-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B00SJ2G7UI/ref=sr_1_27?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446294635&sr=1-27&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A2423841011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817222011%7C7817223011%7C7817224011%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A9647485011%7C9647486011
[00:22] <Guest83556> a 15.6" monitor and 4GB of RAM is pretty much the standard these days. The only problem is the underpowered CPU compared to desktops.
[00:22] <k1l> davegri: please ask that in ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:23] <ajacmac> you should look for a laptop with a decent cpu, nothing over the top, 4+ gigs of ram and a cd drive, you can just swap the cd drive out for an ssd and be good to go
[00:23] <HoloIRCUser> davegri - i have the same CPU on my new HP. I have 16gb ram though. ..... so - id weigh out the usage of hte new computer.
[00:23] <weva> frostschutz, I also read about testdisk or gparted could restore filesystems. that was why I thought about changing file type via testdisk and creating the image of the new file to restore a partition from it
[00:23] <daftykins> davegri: #ubuntu-offtopic for system advice, this is support only.
[00:23] <weva> do you think it might help?
[00:23] <ajacmac> you can get an i5/i7 in that price range easy, even if it's a QM the performance will be respectable
[00:24] <daftykins> baiter: that language is NOT acceptable - and don't bring that negativity here either.
[00:25] <frostschutz> weva, not sure what you mean by change file type via testdisk... testdisk is supposed to find things, not change things
[00:26] <locutus_> ok first time on irc and just wading into debian
[00:26] <daftykins> locutus_: this is #ubuntu - so you might want to join #debian
[00:27] <daftykins> ;)
[00:27] <locutus_> thank you dat
[00:27] <locutus_> actually, mean "debian based"
[00:27] <trimeta> I'm trying to build a server with a BTRFS RAID 1 root on top of encrypted volumes. Normally, initramfs doesn't want to decrypt two different volumes on boot, but I modified /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot to fix this. However, the system still refuses to boot if the BTRFS system wants two devices, even though both of those devices are unlocked.
[00:27] <trimeta> Anyone know what's going on here? I can mount the BTRFS system without error from within the initramfs rescue shell, but for some reason it's not mounting automatically in the scripts.
[00:27] <locutus_> I'm more accustomed to redhat historically
[00:28] <daftykins> locutus_: ok, support chat only here - chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[00:28] <locutus_> ok thankyou. will add that as well
[00:29] <weva> frostschutz, that's also what I should think. but I found an online post about it, and saw in testdisk the "T" option, which changes the file type, and I set it as "linux LUKS"..then I copied the new file to a drive, the dd file that I referred to.
[00:30] <andystar> I think I am going to have to reinstall Linux, after just reinstalling it a while ago. I don't think it should be necessary, except that I installed all of these sound applications from kxstudio. They required the use of jack audio.
[00:33] <frostschutz> weva, do you actually have to recover this data or can you just ... copy it again from wherever you copied the first time?
[00:33] <daftykins> yeah that'd break it :)
[00:34] <andystar> daftykins, Who is your comment aimed at?
[00:35] <daftykins> andystar: you
[00:35] <weva> frostschutz, the two places on two different drives, where I copied the data, have both become "unknown" at the same time. so I can get image of two partitions as many times as I can, but cannot access the data which I suppose is still in there, as I saw them there before all this happened
[00:35] <andystar> daftykins, Thanks.
[00:35] <samthewildone> so I'm having a problem where I cannot have my bluetooth (bose ae2w) work in conjunction to outputing/inputing sound.
[00:36] <weva> since they are LUKS partitions, I might not have success with testdisk anyway, if I'm not mistaken?
[00:36] <andystar> !sound
[00:36] <samthewildone> Trying to use teamspeak but, it's become a pain.
[00:36] <weva> I mean in trying to recover data right now
[00:37] <andystar> !games
[00:37] <weva> frostschutz, sorry for the long answer, the answer to your question is that the data is only in these two borked partitions now
[00:38] <frostschutz> weva, if it was luks encrypted you need the luks header. if testdisk does not find it, try strings. otherwise, end of the line
[00:38] <weva> except that I could probably use testdisk on my hard drive from where I cut-pasted them to the external drive
[00:38] <samthewildone> andystar, hey looking for some great games for linux ?
[00:39] <weva> but I think strings would be much easier than digging into hundreds of GB to find 2,5gb of data
[00:39] <samthewildone> andystar, Steam has some great games for linux for free; just need to have an account with them to access their linux games.
[00:40] <weva> frostschutz, I see. so no use in creating a partition from the dd image?
[00:40] <rbong> Hey, trying to customize a LiveCD. It says here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization that the home directory is generated at some point. I think it's through casper, but I tried adding lines in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom along the lines of what was in there and nothing is added to the LiveCD. I'm in a chroot now on the same image in Ubuntu Customization Kit.
[00:41] <weva> or no possibility of file system restore via gparted or, theoretically, via fsck?
[00:41] <andystar> samthewildone, The sound query to ubottu was for you. I was curious as to what ubottu had in its database about games, as well.
[00:41] <weva> just asking, as I am wary of fsck, being unfamiliar with it
[00:42] <andystar> samthewildone, Teamspeak is only used for games, from what I have seen.
[00:43] <samthewildone> andystar, ah, but I'm having more of a bluetooth output problems.
[00:43] <daftykins> andystar: please query the factoids or PM the bot directly in future :)
[00:43] <daftykins> !brain
[00:45] <weva> frostschutz, so in the command 'sudo strings -t d /where/to/look | grep LUKS' "where to look" would be the "unknown" luks partition on the drive?
[00:45] <andystar> samthewildone, Have you tried asking in a hardware forum?
[00:45] <andystar> daftykins, !ubottu can be pretty fun.
[00:45] <samthewildone> bbl
[00:47] <moon__> How would I go about creating a VPN on my home machine so when at work I can connect to my home VPN?
[00:47] <andystar> daftykins, It looks like I didn't trigger it, by including an exclamation point in the middle of my sentence.
[00:48] <daftykins> andystar: no, nor should you as you're now spamming.
[00:52] <weva> meanwhile, I'd like to see what happens with the image file. in this command "dd if=image.dd of=/dev/sdX bs=1M" will /dev/sdX be the destination drive where the partition created by the image will be saved?
[00:52] <andystar> daftykins, Sorry. My first two queries to it were for samthewildone's sake. The third one was in response to yours. You seemed to want to be jovial about the chatbot.
[00:53] <daftykins> andystar: well i mentioned private messaging or clicking the factoids link, so... bear that in mind :)
[00:53] <frostschutz> weva, it would be the drive or image file where you believe the luks header to be. and don't dd the image back to the disk, that's unnecessary...
[00:54] <frostschutz> weva, i.e. if you don't know where it is, search the whole drive, with testdisk too if you used testdisk on a partition instead of whole disk before
[00:55] <weva> frostschutz, I presume the luks header would be on the external drive where I created the partition, am I correct?
[00:57] <weva> could it be anywhere on the whole drive, or is it likely that it is found within the partition's own area(as it is still clearly seen as /dev/sdbX)
[00:57] <weva> ?
[00:58] <frostschutz> weva, it would be at the very beginning of the partition in question normally, (and file -s -L /dev/device would say it's LUKS as would luksDump)
[00:58] <weva> so if the partition in question is /dev/sdb9, would it be correct to type sudo strings -t d /dev/sdb9 | grep LUKS ?
[00:58] <weva> frostschutz, so if the partition in question is /dev/sdb9, would it be correct to type sudo strings -t d /dev/sdb9 | grep LUKS ?
[01:01] <weva> frostschutz, file -s -L /dev/sdc9 says '/dev/sdc9: data', like earlier
[01:04] <moon__> VPN, anyone?
[01:05] <weva> frostschutz, in that case, would it still be correct to use " sudo strings -t d /dev/sdc9 | grep LUKS" ?
[01:05] <bazhang> !vpn | moon__ have a read
[01:05] <xburger> @moon__ i use it when im under linux
[01:05] <bazhang> read that link above moon__
[01:05] <xburger> vpn1clik i use
[01:05] <xburger> or is it called 1clickvpn
[01:06] <xburger> google for it
[01:06] <andystar> daftykins, I have reread your comment. It looks like you were just trying to inform me about ubottu. I have already seen the factoid, and I already had ubottu in a private message room, though. I guess you wanted ubottu to just quote the link for you.
[01:06] <moon__> on it, thanks for the info bazhang AND xburger
[01:06] <daftykins> andystar: ok
[01:06] <bazhang> andystar, take the chat to the offtopic room NOT here
[01:06] <andystar> ok
[01:07] <xburger> @moon__ you may wanna edit /etc/resolv.conf and add line nameserver 80.67.0.2 to be abele to use it
[01:08] <daftykins> xburger: probably best not to get carried away when you're not sure of the persons' provider yet ;)
[01:09] <andystar> bazhang, stop yelling at me.
[01:09] <xburger> @daftykins whell thas what i needed to add in order vpn to work its dns server
[01:10] <daftykins> xburger: that IP looks like it could be one for your ISP, so that'd be totally irrelevant
[01:11] <xburger> @daftykins im not under vpn now im in windows now when im in ubuntu im using vpn cause it's my boot routine under ubuntu
[01:11] <weva> frostschutz, ok, I am applying the command as I pasted above, but how will know if an output is a luks header? does it have a particular extension, expression..?
[01:11] <daftykins> xburger: none of what you just said is relevant to me, or anyone
[01:12] <xburger> @daftykins im trying to understand what are you telling to me but i just dont....
[01:13] <daftykins> xburger: nevermind then :) best not to advice people if you're not familiar.
[01:13] <weva> frostschutz, i found one
[01:13] <daftykins> *advise
[01:13] <weva> how will I proceed?
[01:14] <weva> it is a ten-digit number with LUKS next to it
[01:16] <xburger> @daftykins everything i wrote to moon_ is just what i did and waht im doing every time when i boot in ubuntu cause /etc/resolv.conf is restarting every time you reboot
[01:17] <daftykins> xburger: stop.
[01:17] <ghost-face1> my touchpad on a dell running dual boot ubuntu 14.04 and windows 10 is not working either on ubuntu or windows 10... it was working until now... i havnt noticed anything that mightve changed it... anyone can help?
[01:18] <moon__> so in the gateway portion of the VPN connection window what should the gateway be?
[01:18] <daftykins> moon__: you need a provider first.
[01:18] <moon__> Is this a pay service, I had thought I read somewhere that you could use cisco any connect as a free provider?
[01:18] <daftykins> ghost-face1: pull the battery + mains, hold power for 5 seconds then reassemble
[01:19] <frostschutz> weva, create a loop device, using losetup --read-only --offset=thenumber, then cryptsetup luksDump the loop device
[01:19] <ghost-face1> daftykinds: what are the mains?
[01:20] <daftykins> the electricity supply.
[01:20] <ghost-face1> daftykins: ok i will try.. thanks... whats the reason do you know?
[01:20] <micah> upgraded to wily, there doesn't seem to be a suspend option in the logoutt menu in gnome now (classic)
[01:20] <micah> ?
[01:20] <daftykins> ghost-face1: just try it.
[01:20] <ghost-face1> ok
[01:22] <weva> frostschutz, the offset would be the start point of the first partition on the drive, that is, /dev/sdc1 ?
[01:26] <ghost-face> daftykins: thank you very much sir.. it helped.. idk why but it did :)
[01:27] <SatshiRole> I botched my system installing ATI drivers on 14.04 can someone help me fix it?
[01:28] <daftykins> ghost-face: nice reset to the hardware there \o/
[01:28] <ghost-face> thanks
[01:30] <arnold> ola
[01:30] <arnold> oi gatinha
[01:30] <daftykins> !es
[01:31] <emitattuo> !br
[01:32] <synergistics> Does installing linux persistently on a flash drive make the installation non-portable?
[01:33] <monty_hall> how can I screen shot a selection of a screen?
[01:33] <monty_hall> can unbuntu do this out of the box?
[01:33] <Mike41> synergistics due to issues with drivers it's not portable
[01:34] <Mike41> monty I don't think so but you can edit the capture later
[01:34] <k1l> monty_hall: alt+print screenshots the active window
[01:34] <TJ-> synergistics: to a large degree yes; with proprietary drivers (especially GPU) sometimes not
[01:35] <synergistics> TJ-: So installing the drivers for the computer you go to is the barrier to portability?
[01:35] <synergistics> Then what's the best way to maintain a constant installation but migrate computers?
[01:35] <synergistics> Or make the transition to a new computer as seamless as possible
[01:35] <synergistics> (Not using a VM)
[01:35] <weva> hello, frostschutz seems to have gone. can someone here help me further maybe?
[01:36] <TJ-> synergistics: Well, generally it won't be a problem for open source drivers which are the majority, because the Linux kernel loads drivers in response to what hardware it discovers each time it starts
[01:36] <TJ-> synergistics: but where, for example, there's a hard-coded /etc/X11/xorg.conf for, say, an nvidia Optimus system, that is going to cause the Xserver to failsafe itself on a system with an Intel GPU
[01:38] <TJ-> synergistics: same issue with, say, Wifi drivers. If the installer system only has fully open-source driver hardware 0 not Broadcom - but then you move the USB to a system with a Broadcom Wifi chipset, you'll have to install the broadcom drivers - unless you've gone through that beforehand
[01:38] <synergistics> TJ-: So if I do move to another computer, installing the proper drivers will be sufficient in some cases?
[01:38] <fluffy_punch> does anyone here regularly do console emulation?
[01:38] <fluffy_punch> specifically wii (dolphin) ?
[01:38] <TJ-> synergistics: Yes, and if you know ahead of time what drivers are likely to be needed you can install them on the system that doesn't require them
[01:38] <synergistics> Ah I see
[01:39] <TJ-> synergistics: E.g. accelerated GPU drivers for AMD, Nvidia. WiFi drivers for Broadcom,, some Realtek
[01:39] <synergistics> Why is it that hardware will sometimes just work without me needing to install drivers
[01:39] <TJ-> synergistics: because the drivers are already in the Linux kernel because they are open-sourced
[01:40] <synergistics> Ah, yea
[01:40] <TJ-> synergistics: Generally, the Linux kernel contains the drivers for every device you can imagine, with some notable exceptions because the hardware chipset makers won't/don't release the technical specifications or help kernel devs develop a driver
[01:41] <synergistics> Yea, I remember reading about the kernel and drivers
[01:41] <synergistics> Ok, thanks for the help
[01:41] <TJ-> synergistics: And, at boot-time the kernel identifies each hardware chipset and loads the correct driver
[01:41] <synergistics> I see
[01:42] <synergistics> it seems like it doesn't take much storage space to hold all the driver specifications; why is that?
[01:42] <synergistics> Or that it would take more than it does to do so
[01:43] <TJ-> synergistics: drivers for each kernel version are stored under /lib/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/. Drivers really don't need that much space for their code in most instances. Generic code - stuff that all drivers use - is implemented just once in the kernel and called by all modules (drivers) that need it
[01:43] <ASSCAPTAIN> hi all
[01:43] <synergistics> Oh ok
[01:45] <Mike41> hello there
[01:45] <TJ-> synergistics: Ubuntu builds kernels with the most common essential modules already built-in to the kernel image, which is stored at /boot/vmlinuz-${KERNEL_VERSION}. Additional modules are loaded as the hardware is discovered, when the kernel sends an Event to the udevd (user-space device daemon) which in turn calls 'modprobe' which locates the correct driver and inserts into the kernel's memory.
[01:46] <SatshiRole> I cannot log in 14.04 since I installed AMD proprietary driver. Can someone help?
[01:47] <mjayk> SatshiRole: can you acess a non-graphical tty?
[01:48] <Admin__> hey everyone.. anyone know where i can get a little help with pimd ?
[01:48] <Admin__> i am stuck... i have the multicast route .. i can ping.. i have sysct.conf settings setup.. everything.. i can pickup the MUlticast on point B > C .. but i can't pickup from A > B > C
[01:49] <Admin__> anyone know pimd well?
[01:49] <synergistics> TJ-: Ok, I see
[01:50] <synergistics> TJ-: I was reading the book "How Linux Works"; I'll have to get back to that now!
[01:50] <Mike41> Hello. I would like some clarification on something. Lately I've been hearing about Ubuntu sending local search queries to Amazon, among with other data that really shouldn't be send anywhere. My question is whether this actually occurs, and if it's directly related to the Unity UI, as I'm currently running Lubuntu.
[01:51] <mjayk> Mike41: afaik its unity specific
[01:53] <TJ-> Mike41: there is/was an Amazon shopping 'lens' or whatever Unity calls them which forwarded dash searches, which is user configurable. I'm not sure about the current state of those recently since I use Kubuntu.
[01:55] <Mike41> ok thanks
[01:55] <SatshiRole> mjayk: No, can't even log on. I guess, I'll have to go into single user.
[01:57] <TJ-> SatshiRole: can you Ctrl+Alt+F1 to a console and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[01:57] <Bashing-om> SatshiRole: What we mean, at the login screen - key combo ctl+alt+F1 ; does this activate a console interface ?
[01:57] <Admin__> anyone help with pimd ?
[01:59] <SatshiRole> Bashing-om: TJ-: I understand. Once you type in the username, and password. It sits there for a bit, and then just goes back to tty1 logon:
[02:00] <TJ-> SatshiRole: Now THAT is unexpected!
[02:02] <TJ-> SatshiRole: did (you) change anything else at the same time of installing the AMD driver? What you describe sounds like a possible issue with the PAM modules (Portable Authentication Modules) which handle log-ins
[02:05] <SatshiRole> TJ-: No, I was following these directions:
[02:05] <SatshiRole> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[02:05] <SatshiRole> Under section 3.1, but several issues occurred....
[02:05] <TJ-> SatshiRole: if you reboot to single-user mode, check the /var/log/auth.log for clues
[02:05] <maddawg2> hmmm... so i have a linux box i'm using as a router... it has 3 network cards.. one I want to use for WAN then two LANs (each serving iPS dor differnet subnetS) how do I tell the linux server to hand out IPs in the 172.16.0.0 subnet on eth2 and to hand out IPs on 192.168.28.0 on ETH1
[02:05] <TJ-> SatshiRole: I can't think of anything GPU driver related that should/could affect log-in
[02:05] <maddawg2> right now the server is listening on interfaces
[02:05] <SatshiRole> TJ-: I won't know how to read it, but I can pastebin it for you.
[02:05] <maddawg2> but i dont know how the server knows which interface to use for each subnet
[02:06] <TJ-> maddawg2: sounds like a job for Shorewall
[02:06] <daftykins> maddawg2: #ubuntu-server
[02:06] <maddawg2> using IPTables actually
[02:06] <daftykins> or pfsense :)
[02:06] <TJ-> Shorewall!
[02:06] <TJ-> :D
[02:06] * daftykins hides
[02:06] <TJ-> !info shorewall | maddawg2
[02:06] <SatshiRole> TJ-: second though, it would be very painstaking to do so.
[02:06] <daftykins> o0
[02:06] <maddawg2> i know what shorewall is
[02:07] <maddawg2> but i cant use shorewall
[02:07] <TJ-> SatshiRole: you could boot the system from a live ISO with network access and then pull the log files out that way
[02:07] <Pinkamena_D> has anyone ever tried to pipe mic input as well as system sounds to a virtual mic for the purpose of combining both sources to a skype call?
[02:07] <SatshiRole> TJ-: Yes, I could.
[02:07] <TJ-> maddawg2: the system 'knows' based onthe routing table
[02:08] <maddawg2> ah gotcha TJ-
[02:08] <maddawg2> technically my second interface is actually a VLAN interface (not a physical interface)
[02:08] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: there's a PulseAudio module that can do loopback; that might be what you need
[02:08] <maddawg2> eth1.2
[02:08] <maddawg2> and eth1
[02:08] <SatshiRole> TJ-: Is that where you'd like me to start, or do you want to hear more about what I did, and the errors that occured?
[02:09] <TJ-> SatshiRole: it's far easy and quicker for use if we can see the logs; we often spot things quickly from experience that you may not realise are significant
[02:09] <daftykins> maddawg2: i really think -server or ##networking would be more relevant.
[02:09] <TJ-> SatshiRole: it also avoids miscommunication and wrong assumptions and interpretations
[02:09] <maddawg2> thanks daftykins but TJ- jst answered my question so no need to
[02:10] <daftykins> maddawg2: well anything further and yeah, better off there :P
[02:10] <SatshiRole> TJ-: okay, I'll get the live CD.
[02:10] <Guest77381> i am using the live session of xubuntu from usb flash stick, windows did something so grub does not start, how can i reinstall grub again?
[02:11] <Guest77381> please help?
[02:12] <daftykins> !grub
[02:12] <daftykins> see there
[02:12] <maddawg2> Guest77381, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[02:12] <maddawg2> or there too
[02:21] <weva> hello, sorry I was about to apply a solution to recover luks headers of my partition, but frostschutz has left, can you help me further maybe?
[02:22] <weva> I'd last applied strings and a number was detected
[02:24] <TJ-> weva: recover headers? does that imply you had back-ups?
[02:24] <Pinkamena_D> TJ-: really weird way of thinking about it, but yes, that module works! Thank you for the suggestion.
[02:24] <hazamonzo_> ooft. What a pain. So I've just reinstalled Ubunti 15.10 (a couple of times today) due to Nvidia driver issues. I struggle to get into the OS on a fresh install unless i follow a strict process. Now... i have the OS installed and the Nvidia drivers working. The question is, for how long.. Is anyone who is familiar willing to look at the Xorg.log output for me to see if they can spot something out of the usual?
[02:24] <hazamonzo_> The reason being is that after a couple of reboots with zero changes... i'll have issues getting into the OS due to graphics problems
[02:24] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: I recall doing that myself some time ago, for another purpose.
[02:25] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: cold or warm reboots? That can sometimes make a difference?
[02:25] <daftykins> hazamonzo_: let me guess, are you installing the download from their website?
[02:25] <hazamonzo_> Im worried that if i setup all the apps on this laptop again that i need it will just bork out on me :)
[02:26] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: Afraid not. Im doing it via the commandline (nvidia-352)
[02:26] <daftykins> well that's good!
[02:26] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Last time the OS failed to let me in was a cold boot
[02:26] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: I've been doing this a couple of times the last few days! :D
[02:26] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: is it a UEFI or BIOS system?
[02:26] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Bios
[02:27] <SatshiRole> TJ-: booting now. Nickname will be Rexter, or Rexter1.
[02:27] <hazamonzo_> Opted for Win7 on this system :)
[02:27] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: And, is it Optimus (hybrid) or only Nvidia ?
[02:27] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: One of the erros that i noticed before this fresh install in the Xorg log was issues with "finding a display"
[02:28] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Hybrid. Intel and Nvidia K2100M
[02:28] <hazamonzo_> ()K2100M is supported as far as the nvidia website is concerned for the 352 driver
[02:28] <hazamonzo_> I did notice an odd thing though
[02:29] <hazamonzo_> i get one error hen booting from the live dvd or the regular install
[02:29] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: OK, so the issue is likely to do with the system having issues with the Optimus config, and possibly setting up the video output incorrectly occassionally.
[02:29] <hazamonzo_> Some error about the intel i915 (can't remember the number) having issues loading
[02:29] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: I tink you might be right as the system is working fine now but its unstable when i restart
[02:30] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: possible sources of clues/help: /var/log/gpu-manager.log, run "sudo /usr/bin/prime-supported" and then look at /var/log/prime-supported.log, as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log and friends
[02:30] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Perfect! Let me have a look
[02:31] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: Optimus is a nightmare I steer well clear of!
[02:32] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Noted. Im having a hard enough time as it is :D
[02:32] <hazamonzo_> I installed all my dev tools earlier only for the system to give me a hard time :(
[02:32] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: You've probably already checked, but there are sometimes settings to influence it in the BIOS Setup
[02:33] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: I didn't actually dig into the BIOS just yet
[02:33] <hazamonzo_> But i've been pointed in the direction of prime-select and bumblebee ect
[02:33] <hazamonzo_> Im... not a GPU guy...
[02:33] <hazamonzo_> :)
[02:34] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: So prime-supported = yes
[02:35] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: And i can pastebin the Xorg.log if you have a moment to run your eyes over it for any unusual items?
[02:35] <TJ-> Bumblebee is deprecated now Nvidia has nvidia-prime, but we were discussing this earlier; Last time I dug in deep I found that -prime driver doesn't support MUX-less Optimus chipsets - that is, dual GPUs where the outputs are NOT switched between the GPUs using a multiplexer. That's caught a few people unawares but not sure if that support is still absent
[02:35] <hazamonzo_> I know that when i was having issues booting i had a couple of EE errors in there
[02:35] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: sure, more eyes the better
[02:35] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Appreciated! One mo
[02:36] <daftykins> not gone into BIOS?! wowzer :)
[02:36] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079423/
[02:36] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: hehehe. I only ever visit it if i have to change the boot order :)
[02:37] <daftykins> ah that's a rookie mistake, one time boot menus are far superior to messing with order
[02:37] <daftykins> oh a xorg.conf has been made.
[02:37] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: Hehehe. Hey! i had a hard time with windows 8+ even getting to the BIOS! :D
[02:38] <daftykins> shutdown -s -t 1
[02:38] <daftykins> actually that fails to factor in fastboot i guess
[02:38] <daftykins> nm, off topic
[02:39] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: lol. I was about to google it
[02:39] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: I'd suspect, when it goes wrong, you don't get this line: "[ 21.875] (**) |-->Inactive Device "intel""
[02:39] <TJ-> daftykins: there always is with -prime
[02:39] <weva> TJ- I have backups that are shown as "unknown" partitions..I think we were talking about it yesterday
[02:40] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: you think the intel card kicks into life or something and has issues?
[02:40] <daftykins> TJ-: so maybe that user i mentioned needs to run nvidia-xconfig ? o0
[02:40] <daftykins> i've always had folk use prime with auto
[02:40] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: Yes, that'd be my best guess. If the Intel starts as the primary for some reason
[02:41] <weva> the problem was that I created these partitions as backups before reinstalling system. I saw the data was transferred in them. but now they are there as "unknown" partitions
[02:41] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: There might be something to that... i see an error even on the live dvd thats related to the i915 or something?
[02:41] <TJ-> daftykins: the installer usually does it from what I've seen, but yes, possibly. Every -prime system I've looked at has a default xorg.conf with the GPUs listed.
[02:41] <hazamonzo_> And from what i've read thats an intel thing
[02:42] <daftykins> TJ-: hmm, are we talking about something other than grabbing nvidia-352 and nvidia-prime together?
[02:42] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: yes, i915 is the driver for many recent Intel GPUs. Although, there are a few common warnings it puts out that can be safely ignored
[02:42] <TJ-> daftykins: not that I know of, but as you know I try to avoid -prime!
[02:43] <hazamonzo_> Hehehe. Is there a couple of configs i could check reagrding the loading of these cards?
[02:43] <hazamonzo_> *regarding
[02:43] <TJ-> weva: does "sudo blkid /dev/sdXY" fail to identify any meta-data in them?
[02:44] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: I think it depends on which one is set as primary in BIOS, but that's a hunch not proven
[02:44] <Rexter> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/vkLNxS20
[02:44] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: I assume there is no config where i can for the working Nvidia card to be primary. At least for now
[02:44] <hazamonzo_> *force
[02:45] <hazamonzo_> I'd rather have an OS i can rely on that one that performs well on the battery :)
[02:46] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: Well, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the xserver config but that was auto-generated and I'd trust it to be correct. The log you showed just now suggests everything is optimal using the Nvidia GPU, but if you want the low/high power switching you'll likely need to check BIOS settings first in case the Intel is disabled.
[02:46] <weva> TJ- the command gives no output. it just jumps to command prompt
[02:47] <TJ-> weva: which suggests there's no intelligible metadata there
[02:47] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Would there be any reason that the intel would be disabled as this is a brand new laptop and i haven't messed with the BIOS so far
[02:47] <weva> TJ- but strings returned a ten-digit number with LUKS written in red next to it
[02:47] <TJ-> Rexter: hmmm, which user, 'mike' or 'aj' (or both) have the log-in issue?
[02:48] <TJ-> Rexter: this bothers me: "PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[02:48] <TJ-> Rexter: you have/had Kubuntu installed on that PC?
[02:50] <SatshiRole> TJ-: Both users cannot log in. Mike is admin. No, just regular Ubuntu. I was able to log in both users, just a couple of hours ago.
[02:51] <TJ-> SatshiRole: line 185/186 might be important - looks like PAM is trying to authenticate to a Windows/Samba server )pam_winbind)
[02:53] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Well im going to do a reboot and have a quick look at BIOS to see if i can spot anything. Lets hope i can get back afterwards! :D Thanks for your help
[02:54] <TJ-> SatshiRole: also line 177/178 suggests 'aj' is unknown to the unix password file
[02:56] <SatshiRole> TJ-: is it possible that the system was doing some sort of updates, and there was a conflict.... none of this makes sense. Did you take a look at the directions I was following?
[02:59] <TJ-> SatshiRole: these auth issues don't make sense if user 'aj' is a local system user, that's for sure.
[02:59] <knikolla> Hi guys. I'm having an issue with upower. It doesn't correctly report line_power events. Only when i unplug it reports both the line_power and bat events together.
[03:00] <SatshiRole> TJ-: well, the devel's in the details, so let me tell you what I did, and maybe someone will chime it.
[03:01] <SatshiRole> Here are the directions I followed:
[03:01] <SatshiRole> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[03:01] <SatshiRole> section 3.1
[03:02] <hazamonzo> Well dang!
[03:02] <mrblack> where can i find a discussion about nootropics
[03:02] <SatshiRole> I gt an error message on the step one. I don't know the exact error, but either a folder didn't exist. So I just moved on.
[03:02] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Hey mate. Just restarted. Didn't see much interesting in BIOS but the machine in question failed to get to the UI. If you're interested this is the latest Xorg.log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079607/
[03:03] <monty_hall> hello
[03:03] <monty_hall> there should be no mister black
[03:03] <monty_hall> rather mr orange or mr pink
[03:03] <mrblack> pink
[03:03] <mrblack> python
[03:03] <cfhowlett> monty_hall, this is ubuntu support. stay on topic.
[03:03] <monty_hall> sorry
[03:03] <monty_hall> wrong channel :P
[03:04] <TJ-> weva: what does "sudo cryptsetup isluks /dev/sdXY" report for the backups?
[03:04] <SatshiRole> Step two, there was nothing to remove.
[03:04] <hazamonzo> TJ-: I see... (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. but thats about it. Some error about "No monitor specified for screen "nvidia"." also
[03:04] <hazamonzo> Not sure if it helps
[03:04] <hazamonzo> (whew)
[03:04] <SatshiRole> therefor, I did not reboot as instructed in step 3
[03:05] <TJ-> hazamonzo: weird; that log file indicates everything is OK
[03:05] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Oh yeah? :s
[03:05] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Maybe the OS is working but not on the default LCD display?
[03:06] <TJ-> hazamonzo: how many monitors are connected?
[03:06] <hazamonzo> None at the moment
[03:06] <hazamonzo> TJ-: And none since the fresh install
[03:06] <weva> TJ- it reports these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079630/
[03:08] <amicrawler> can any body lead me how to get my wifi working right
[03:09] <TJ-> hazamonzo: you remember what I said earlier about MUX-less Optimus?
[03:09] <cfhowlett> !wifi | amicrawler
[03:09] <weva> TJ- but the partition is shown with a star here : http://is.gd/htJ1hK does this not mean that it is mounted?
[03:09] <amicrawler> used that no help
[03:09] <amicrawler> wifi is Qualcomm Atheros Device 0041 (rev 20)
[03:10] <TJ-> hazamonzo: I wonder if the PC you have, is of that type. In which case, the Intel GPU would need to be active since MUX-less works by the nvidia doing the work but the Intel writing the framebuffer to the outputs, rather than with MUX systems where each GPU writes to its own framebuffers, and the outputs are switched between the 2 GPUs
[03:10] <weva> also gparted shows it is mounted at /home
[03:10] <amicrawler> os is ubuntu 15.10
[03:10] <TJ-> weva: which ubuntu release is that on?
[03:11] <hazamonzo> TJ-: That sounds.... technical! :D
[03:11] <weva> TJ- it is on my external drive, my system is 14.04.3
[03:11] <TJ-> weva: Oh! my typo! "sudo cryptsetup isLuks /dev/sdc9" (not the UPPER-CASe L) !
[03:12] <TJ-> hazamonzo: it's a computer, not an apple pie :d
[03:12] <weva> TJ- so it has to be upper case?
[03:12] <dshove> channel #etherboot
[03:12] <TJ-> weva: The 'L' of Luks does, yes
[03:13] <TJ-> weva: oH!! Add the option '-v' in there too, as in "sudo cryptsetup -v isLuks /dev/sdc9" so it tells you the status
[03:13] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Hahaha
[03:14] <hazamonzo> Im just pottering around. setting up a moniter
[03:14] <hazamonzo> See what happens :)
[03:14] <weva> TJ- well.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079668/
[03:15] <weva> I find a luks string in /dev/sdc9, but it turns out not to be a valid luks device..the question remains; what am I to do, where is my data that i saw there with my own eyes..:)
[03:16] <TJ-> weva: was /dev/sdc9 always an encrypted block device using LUKS, or was its data copied from an original LUKS device elsewhere?
[03:17] <weva> TJ- it was created just before the data transfer to it. its data was copied from my hard drive, which was at least not home-folder encrypted.
[03:18] <weva> sorry, not copied, but cut-pasted
[03:18] <hazamonzo> TJ-: ooft. I give up for now. It gone 3am. I'll take a look again tomorrow. Thanks for the help mate
[03:18] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, does anyone know of a package or a configuration that will make my super key (windows key, command key, etc) act like the command key in os x?
[03:18] <Scriptonaut> I use os x at work often times, and ubuntu everywhere else. I prefer ubuntu, but one thing I really miss is the command key
[03:19] <Scriptonaut> and I don't want to merely bind the command key to ctrl, that doesn't work very well in the terminal
[03:19] <michael__> Question about future compatibility
[03:19] <TJ-> weva: so the process was effectively "cryptsetup luksFormat ... /dev/sdc9; cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc9 crypt_sdc9; mount /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9 /mnt/tmp; ... cp -a /home/$USER/ /mnt/tmp; ... umount /mnt/tmp; cryptsetup luksClose crypt_sdc9" ?
[03:20] <michael__> After Mir is released, will Xlib-based applications still work?
[03:20] <weva> TJ- if you're asking me how I created the partition and transferred the files, I used all GUIs for them
[03:20] <weva> nautilus and gnome disk utility
[03:21] <TJ-> weva: Hmmm; wasn't aware they had LUKS format capabilities
[03:21] <weva> I might have used gparted to do initial formats of drives..which made me think when I heard of mbr-gpt mismatch as a possible cause of this filesystem problem..
[03:22] <SatshiRole> Scriptonaut: what does the command key do in the terminal in OSX?
[03:22] <weva> TJ- yes, gnome disk utility can do ext4 luks encryption
[03:22] <TJ-> weva: can you show me "pastebinit <( sudo dd if=/dev/sdc9 bs=16384 count=1 | hexdump -C )"
[03:23] <Scriptonaut> SatshiRole: it doesn't output a control character, like it does in ubuntu. For example, if I Command+v, it pastes my clipboard contents
[03:23] <TJ-> weva: obviously it doesn't do it correctly!
[03:23] <weva> TJ- with the final ")" included?
[03:23] <TJ-> Yes
[03:24] <TJ-> weva: that <( ... ) is process I/O redirection, collects the output, gives it to pastebinit
[03:25] <weva> TJ- here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079728/
[03:26] <TJ-> weva: don't know what the tools did, but the LUKS metadata header should be at offset 0 through to 00000250 ... there's none there
[03:26] <quest8> hi?
[03:27] <TJ-> weva: so you need to figure out if the tools create detached LUKs headers and if so where they put them!
[03:27] <VergilPrime> So i have a stupid question
[03:28] <TJ-> weva: this is the kind of thing you'd expect to see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079742/
[03:28] <VergilPrime> Is it possible to symlink files so that I can write code on my machine and have it automagically update code on another code via SSH?
[03:29] <VergilPrime> on another machine*
[03:29] <daftykins> no
[03:29] <TJ-> VergilPrime: Yes; use sshfs
[03:29] <TJ-> !info sshfs
[03:29] <weva> TJ- I see..where else could they be places?
[03:29] <weva> placed*
[03:29] <somsip> VergilPrime: there are various types of software that allow syncing, either on demand or manually. git-sync, btsync for example
[03:30] <TJ-> VergilPrime: with sshfs you would directly edit the remote files, mounted in the local file-system
[03:30] <Scriptonaut> VergilPrime: is there any reason you don't just use git for this?
[03:30] <Scriptonaut> You want it to automatically update with each file save?
[03:30] <VergilPrime> Yeah
[03:30] <Scriptonaut> I used to have a setup with ftp that did this
[03:31] <Scriptonaut> I dunno if ftp is the ideal setup though
[03:31] <TJ-> weva: I have no idea; any tool that does detached LUKS headers and doesn't inform you is bad. I wonder if that is even a LUKS device at all; it could be a 'plain' dm_crypt device with no LUKS header at all, in which case you'd need to know the key to unlock it
[03:31] <VergilPrime> This code is for prototyping so I generally preffer speed over anything else and I am used to A. deploying code on my own machine or B. using windows Notepad++ FTP that automagically uploads every time I save.
[03:31] <somsip> VergilPrime: git with a post-commit pull to update the remote machine. But not really on topic here
[03:31] <VergilPrime> somsip, sorry, didn't know where specifically to ask.
[03:31] <weva> TJ- I sure still have my password
[03:32] <VergilPrime> I'll look into sshfs and git
[03:32] <TJ-> weva: try "sudo cryptsetup open --type plain /dev/sdc9 crypt_sdc9"
[03:33] <rober> hello i need help. i need change a file from utf-8 to ascii
[03:34] <VergilPrime> open it in a text editor and save it under the new format?
[03:34] <VergilPrime> :I
[03:34] <weva> TJ- gosh, it asks me "enter passphrase"..should I enter the partition's encryption password?
[03:34] <VergilPrime> Am I stupid in thinking that's how that works?
[03:34] <rober> it is not possible
[03:34] <somsip> !info iconv | rober (iconv --from-code UTF-8 --to-code US-ASCII -c inputfile > outputfile)
[03:35] <rober> i tried with incov but do not work
[03:35] <TJ-> info uni2ascii | rober
[03:35] <TJ-> !info uni2ascii | rober
[03:36] <TJ-> weva: Yes, and then you'll need to test the resulting device mapper node to see if the data in it makes sense, with "sudo blkid /dev/mapper/crpyt_sdc9"
[03:37] <TJ-> weva: I rather think it'll be garbage though
[03:37] <weva> TJ- I entered my password and it said "Device crypt_sdc9 already exists"...by the way, I think itwasnt there before, but now I see in device list /dev/sdc9 mounted at /dev/mapper
[03:37] <rober> i need explanation how to use that command. i am sorry for my english i speak spanish
[03:37] <cfhowlett> !es | rober
[03:38] <weva> TJ- crpyt_sdc9 or crypt_sdc9 ?
[03:38] <rober> in ubuntu-es nobody answered me
[03:41] <adun153> Hello everyone, my Enigmail on Thunderbird stopped working after I upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10. It doesn't ask me for my private key passphrase anymore, and immediately returns this message when I try to open an encrypted message "Error - no matching private/secret key found to decrypt message"
[03:41] <adun153> "gpg --list-key" still lists my keys as being there.
[03:42] <adun153> What could I try out?
[03:44] <TJ-> weva: "Device crypt_sdc9 already exists" suggests some other tool already tried/did unlock the block device
[03:44] <TJ-> adun153: sounds like an issue with the password agent that (should) run in the session
[03:45] <freerider> quit
[03:45] <weva> TJ- I don't know about it..I entered my password for the first time since the partition has this state
[03:47] <weva> TJ- this is how it currently looks: http://is.gd/nMkiti
[03:48] <TJ-> weva: something created /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9, if it was there before you tried my 'cryptsetup open ...' suggestion
[03:49] <weva> TJ- I, too, first noticed it after I entered my passphrase
[03:52] <TJ-> weva: You'll have to research what the tools you used to encrypt the partition actually did/do, since it obviously is NOT LUKS - unless the tools used detached headers, but that makes no sense, since the first 4KB was left blank, which is where the header should be. It looks to me as if something wiped the original header out
[03:54] <weva> TJ-, that is probably the whole story behind the switching of the partition from encrypted LUKS label to "unknown"...if I could only know what happened. the same kind of damage on three different drives.
[03:55] <weva> and at the same time interval
[03:55] <weva> speaking of two of them, also at the same time
[03:57] <weva> TJ- frostschutz had last written that I should do " losetup --read-only --offset=thenumber, then cryptsetup luksDump the loop device"
[03:57] <weva> TJ- does it point to another approach?
[03:57] <TJ-> If 'something' added that /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9 node that 'something' must have some configuration somewhere telling it to do that, since there is no metadata attached to /dev/sdc9 itself. If you find that config data it might help you figure out what is going on
[03:58] <TJ-> if you've got /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9 is it possible you've got 2 layers of encryption going on?
[03:58] <weva> TJ- where might I need to look in? under /dev/mapper there is a file named crypt_sdc
[03:58] <TJ-> weva: in other words, is there a LUKS header in that device?
[03:58] <weva> sorry crypt_sdc9
[03:59] <TJ-> weva: "sudo cryptsetup -v isLuks /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9" for example?
[03:59] <zoidfarb> Hi, this isn't strictly an Ubuntu question, it's more of a bash question, but if I'm running `$spark-submit --master spark_align.py --scoring_matrix PAM250 --gap_penalty 5 --output_file score pdbnr.100.fasta` How do I make sure the later options get passed to the Python script and not to spark-submit?
[04:00] <TJ-> zoidfarb: that would be up to $spark-submit
[04:01] <weva> TJ- no different http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079907/
[04:03] <TJ-> weva: whatever those GUI tools were doing, I'd take it up with their developers!
[04:06] <weva> TJ- do you think they could explain what might have borked the partitionsß
[04:06] <weva> ?
[04:08] <TJ-> I don't know, but they should be able to recreate the scenario from your description of what you did
[04:16] <weva> TJ- I will reboot shortly, and be back
[04:17] <Mobil> Hi, If I'm running a certain desktop environment
[04:17] <Mobil> Hi, If I'm running a certain desktop environment and I switch over to another one with a new hdd but backup all my stuff from my previous hdd, what would work and what wouldn't?
[04:20] <fowl> Wow I tried to install 15.10 and the installer just sits there like it doesn't know what to do
[04:20] <fowl> Is that intentional
[04:20] <baiter> no
[04:21] <liquid4rchiv3> anybody know how to add virtual desktops using linux mint 17.2 mate edition
[04:21] <baiter> wrong chat
[04:21] <fowl> I tried to boot into it and it was slow as hell too then it gives me messages that the USB is out of space
[04:22] <fowl> It was slowly eating the persistent part
[04:22] <baiter> how much space did the partition you were installing to have?
[04:22] <fowl> I didn't get that far
[04:23] <liquid4rchiv3> usb gets slower with more disk space used
[04:23] <baiter> how far did you get?
[04:23] <liquid4rchiv3> 4
[04:24] <baiter> basically, select partition is very early in the process
[04:24] <baiter> only after does install really begin
[04:24] <fowl> I got to a very slowly loading kde desktop with messages like space remaining: 400 mb, 200 mb, 0 mb, then it kind of stopped
[04:24] <fowl> Um when I tried to install from the first menu I clicked continue, the first button, and it hanged
[04:25] <baiter> were you using live usb?
[04:25] <fowl> Neither worked
[04:25] <wileee> fowl, the persistent fills up not really any way to clear it, you can delete the casper-rw though that is it.
[04:26] <fowl> Couldn't even get to choose partitions
[04:26] <wileee> fowl, you have a non sequitur, installs has nothing in general it can be sone with the iso only, you filled it so, fix it.
[04:27] <LambdaComplex> liquid4rchiv3: FWIW, back when I used Mint XFCE, for some reason I stopped being able to change my workspace settings (i.e. add or remove)
[04:27] <fowl> wileee: no guy it filled itself
[04:27] <wileee> fowl, Yes while you were using it.
[04:28] <wileee> standard procedure
[04:28] <fowl> wileee: lol? What?
[04:28] <fowl> wileee: it filled itself before the desktop loaded
[04:28] <wileee> fowl, well you're either trolling or stupid, I gave you the answers
[04:29] <fowl> You are trolling
[04:29] <fowl> As I said it filled up before the desktop loaded
[04:29] <DeaDSouL> hi, my M.2 ssd (samsung XP941) was working and booting just fine with (efi) ... then i replaced the m.2 ssd with another one I have, which has another distro... and when i was done, I put the M.2 ssd (xp941) back in the motherboard.. but now I can't boot it at all.. does anyone know why ?
I got to a very slowly loading kde desktop with messages like space remaining: 400 mb, 200 mb, 0 mb, then it kind of stopped This was not a one time event
[04:30] <fowl> I thought that persistent part was for my data. Not for Ubuntu to fluff off and use it for whatever it wants to
[04:30] <fowl> wileee: yes it was, I had just created the USB through startup disk creator
[04:31] <wileee> fowl, Ah, my mistake, than remove the casper no persistent then, check the md5sums at some point if needed, other outliers in this area really
, check uefi, see all the storage drives appear
[04:33] <DeaDSouL> baiter: is there any command ? blkid, lsblk ?
[04:34] <baiter> can't you go into uefi?
[04:34] <baiter> on start, press the hotkey for efi
[04:34] <baiter> just make sure all the storage devices are appearing properly
[04:35] <weva> oh, TJ- seems to have left..
[04:37] <AyyHello> Hello, yersteday with ioria I was able to find my home folder with a liveusb, and see my files. (I didn't open them though) Can anybody help me with copy pasting the home folders to my hard drive?
[04:39] <fowl> Trying again with xubuntu
[04:39] <baiter> if it's not encrypted, you can just use cp
[04:40] <AyyHello> baiter: I am experiencing a problem with that
[04:40] <AyyHello> baiter: Since I dont know the syntax etc
[04:42] <DeaDSouL_> baiter: it is /boot/EFI and /EFI/
[04:42] <baiter> i mean your uefi
[04:42] <baiter> as in bios
[04:42] <baiter> when your computer starts
[04:43] <baiter> it does a check
[04:43] <baiter> and a screen will appear
[04:43] <baiter> saying press delete or f11 or something to enter bios
[04:43] <baiter> make sure both storage devices appear
[04:44] <DeaDSouL_> baiter: yes, in the ExFlash i have EF0 and inside it i have dir called EFI
[04:45] <DeaDSouL_> baiter: means EzFlash *
[04:47] <MarchHare> Question: I would like to run a very simple dhcp serverr from the command line, no special configs, possibly one-off. A simple command line invocation involving the interface and the range to hand out would be nice. Any suggestions? Everything I'm finding on the net involves isc and dhcp3, both of which are daemons that I really don't want running on their own on a normally-client machine
[04:47] <MarchHare> To wit: if I run it, it terminates cleanly when I ^C out of it.
[04:50] <DeaDSouL> baiter: in the EzFlash Utility it shows FS0 > EFI
[04:58] <fowl> Xubuntu works much better than kubuntu so far
[04:59] <MarchHare> Question: I would like to run a very simple dhcp serverr from the command line, no special configs, possibly one-off. A simple command line invocation involving the interface and the range to hand out would be nice. Any suggestions? Everything I'm finding on the net involves isc and dhcp3, both of which are daemons that I really don't want running on their own on a normally-client machine. To wit, I want a simple command-line dhcp s
[04:59] <MarchHare> erver that terminates cleanly when I ^C
[04:59] <finch_> how can i apply after upgrede to ubuntu
[04:59] <finch_> 15.10
[05:03] <Osirez> finch_ http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-15041410-to-ubuntu-1510-wily-werewolf
[05:28] <slumbaz> does anyone could help me to install buzztrax
[05:48] <ajmal> How I can add fonts in ubuntu?
[05:50] <Osirez> ajmal: Just download the .ttf or .otf in Ubuntu. Doublick the downloaded file. That should open the font viewer where you'll see an install button.
[05:52] <emitattuo> If there's a ton of fonts, can you still select them all, right click them in Nautilus, and click install? (Or manually move them to /usr/share/fonts)?
[05:53] <ajmal> Osirez : thanks for the response. I will try it.
[05:53] <Osirez> ajmalL: No problem
[05:55] <Osirez> emitattuo: That should work yes in theory. Try just one and see if its added. If so then do the same with all the others.
[05:59] <OERIAS> Anyone here know how to change the cursor on Ubuntu 15.10?
[05:59] <OERIAS> I totally forgot how to do it.
[05:59] <OERIAS> I already installed the cursor
[06:06] <NR87z> Hi all anyone awake? Can anyone tell me what I would cloud use to take snapshots of one server and pump it on to another?
[06:06] <NR87z> I'm trying to create a production/staging environment at home
[06:10] <emitattuo> NR87z, rsync can be used for that.
[06:11] <dboy17> hi. fresh install of ubuntu 15.10 and sshfs no longer works. openssh-server is installed. but I get "sshfs connection reset by peer" although sshfs is installed on my clients machine.
[06:26] <ditch> hello
[06:29] <iqadmin> hello
[06:31] <bulldog> Hey
[06:31] <bulldog> ubottu
[06:55] <ezio> salve a tutti
[06:56] <OERIAS> Anyone here know how to change the cursor on Ubuntu 15.10?
[06:56] <OERIAS> I already installed the cursor
[06:56] <OERIAS> I already installed the cursor
[07:03] <VergilPrime> Where should I go to get help with sshfs?
[07:05] <Kartagis> VergilPrime: if it's ubuntu, here
[07:06] <mikubuntu> have a question about using databases with lubuntu, not sure if this is the place to ask. i try to open a large .txt file with abiword, or gnumeric or libreoffice, and it loads very sluggishly and takes forever to search -- is .txt the right type of file to use in these applications?
[07:07] <VergilPrime> Okay, so I'm mounting my server's user directory to my system at ~/mnt/server/
[07:07] <Kartagis> via samba?
[07:08] <VergilPrime> On both machines my user is the same (vergilprime)
[07:08] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, What is your application trying to do? What does this textfile have to do with databases?
[07:08] <VergilPrime> Idk what samba is, using sshfs command in terminal.
[07:08] <VergilPrime> The mount is successful but the file permissions are all wrong so I can't actually do anything with the mounted directory
[07:09] <VergilPrime> instead of "vergilprime" being the owner and group i see "501"
[07:09] <VergilPrime> and frankly this is a bit above my head :I
[07:10] <edisto> is it me or is the kernel 4.3 mainline amd64 bit version missing?
[07:10] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: the file is a list of names and addresses, and i want to be able to search it for individual entries. so i assume i want to have in like a spreadsheet configuration. i'm not familiar at all with using files like this.
[07:11] <flyingbutter> hello
[07:11] <flyingbutter> im l33t h4xxor
[07:11] <flyingbutter> i come 4 ur eye pees
[07:12] <VergilPrime> Should I try creating and adding myself to a "501" group? :I
[07:15] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: abiword has been loading for at least 5 minutes now and still not displaying the data from the file
[07:15] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Yes, a spreadsheet or database would be better than a textfile. This will let you at least break things up into fields like first name, last name, street, city, etc ... if you are just searching through the textfile with regex, you'll have all kinds of problems.
[07:16] <mengazo> VergilPrime: 501 most likely represents the read, write, and execute permissions of your files. Make sure to check the owner, too. Enter "ls -la" to determine the owner
[07:16] <samssammerz> (for instance, the word "james" would match "James Connor", "711 St. James Ave", and "Jamestown, VA"
[07:16] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: so should the file have been provided to me in a different type than .txt?
[07:16] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: what are typical database file types?
[07:16] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Owner information is normally listed in the third column of that output from "ls -la"
[07:17] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, If the only thing you are doing is storing names/addresses/phone #'s etc and looking them up, then you just need a spreadsheet, not a database.
[07:17] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: i'm sure the office that provided the file probably uses windows
[07:18] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: so could i populate a linux spreadsheet using the .txt file that was provided to me?
[07:18] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: you are correct, i want to be able to sort by first name, last name, etc.
[07:19] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: abiword STILL 'loading,' i know this isn't supposed to work like this .. lol
[07:19] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Yes, assuming that the entries in the file are in some kind of consistent format. Also, how large is the file?
[07:20] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Check out this, as well: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sshfs#Checklist. The last mentioned step should be helpful
[07:20] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, I mean, if you are dealing with some enormous # of entries (millions of names), then using an actual database might be warranted.
[07:20] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: this particular subfile is 138 mb
[07:21] <VergilPrime> thanks mengazo
[07:21] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: this subfile would be less than 800k entries i suppose
[07:21] <MoL0ToV> howto configure a linux domain? i want to save home directories on unique server and authenticate users with this server
[07:22] <mengazo> VergilPrime: And if the owner of those sshfs files are something other than what you're expecting, keep in mind that the "1" in "501" indicates what level of permission *other* users apart from the owner have over those files
[07:23] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Ah, ok - that's still too big though for a spreadsheet. I would look into using MySQL or PostgreSQL.
[07:23] <mengazo> VergilPrime: The "1" means that other users can only execute, which means that other users can't read or write to those files
[07:23] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: where could i get some help with that?
[07:24] <hateball> MoL0ToV: Will the domain consist of only Linux machines or will you mix OS's ?
[07:24] <MoL0ToV> hateball: only linux
[07:24] <VergilPrime> even sudo ls -la tells me that the file perms are ?????????
[07:25] <mengazo> VergilPrime: You would need to change that "1" to a "6" for read and write permissions, or "7" for read, write, and execute permissions (use only for scripts, programs, and directories)
[07:25] <mengazo> hmm
[07:25] <hateball> MoL0ToV: I would setup OpenLDAP for auth, mount /home over NFS for client machines
[07:26] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, If you've never used MySQL before, I would start by using a search engine to find some tutorials on it. If you have further questions (after doing some reading), you can ask in #mysql
[07:26] <MoL0ToV> hateball, yellowpages is not best?
[07:26] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Go to the server that's hosting the SSH service and determine/fix the permissions from there
[07:27] <mengazo> VergilPrime: UNIX permissions are a bit tricky to learn at first. Here's a reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions#Numeric_notation
[07:27] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: ok i'll see what i can figure out -- just looking at this page now: http://www.gfi.com/blog/top-10-free-database-tools-for-sys-admins/
[07:27] <VergilPrime> perms on the remote host show that I am owner :I
[07:28] <VergilPrime> I don't necessarily want to let anyone mess with these files, but I am their owner on both machines and I am not entirely sure how to get my machine to realize that.
[07:28] <hateball> MoL0ToV: Suppose it would do as well. Using openldap should let you be more flexible in case you need to introduce other OS or applications I think
[07:29] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Honestly, the suggestions in that blog post are pretty terrible. I'd highly recommend looking into MySQL, PostgreSQL or some other actively developed project - you will get a lot more support, better documentation/tutorials, and less bugs.
[07:29] <hateball> MoL0ToV: http://www.ltsp.org/ has lots of good documentation about some of this stuff
[07:29] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Also, just a heads up that there is going to be quite a bit of a learning curve to learn how to use a database, but once you learn the basics, it will be a skill that you can apply in many different areas.
[07:30] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: okey dokey then -- thx :P
[07:30] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, You're welcome. Good luck!
[07:30] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Do both the user you're logged in as on your client machine and the owner on the remote server have the same uid?
[07:31] <VergilPrime> I don't knowwwwww :3
[07:31] <VergilPrime> uid is a new thing to me.
[07:31] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Enter "id -u" to determine that on both machines
[07:31] <VergilPrime> uid on remote host is 501
[07:31] <VergilPrime> uid on my machine is 1000
[07:31] <treeprogram> the vertical line that signifies where the letter you type will appear - is it called a cursor?
[07:32] <mengazo> There's the problem, right there
[07:32] <VergilPrime> Is that fixable?
[07:32] <treeprogram> so like if I want to type in the middle of the paragraph, I click in the middle of the paragraph, and that vertical line appears there, and I can start typing in the middle of the paragraph. What is that vertical line called?
[07:32] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Absolutely. Though, it requires a few steps, but nothing too tedious
[07:32] <VergilPrime> treeprogram, cursor.
[07:33] <MoL0ToV> hateball, i don't want ltst or the complication of openldap, i think that use yellowpages is the more simple solution, here in my school exists only linux machines
[07:33] <treeprogram> VergilPrime: thanks. Isn't that also what the mouse pointer is called?
[07:33] <VergilPrime> Okay lemme google it first.
[07:33] <VergilPrime> treeprogram, yes it is.
[07:33] <hateball> MoL0ToV: well then you already have your mind made up :)
[07:33] <hateball> MoL0ToV: I was only suggesting ltsp for their docs on how to set up NFS et al, not using it as a whole
[07:34] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Let me fetch some documentation
[07:34] <MoL0ToV> someone know if is possible to use yp with dynamic assigned ip address on clients?
[07:35] <VergilPrime> Ive got some mengazo
[07:35] <VergilPrime> but feel free
[07:35] <VergilPrime> I'm an idiot
[07:36] <mengazo> VergilPrime: We all have our moments, dude. If you're relatively new to the *nix world, we all have to start somewhere :)
[07:38] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Just make sure the uid and gid (group id) of both client and server users match, and you change the owner (uid and gid) on all files you currently own
[07:39] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: do you know why i might be getting a 'can't send to channel' msg from #mysql ??
[07:40] <hateball> !register | mikubuntu
[07:41] <mengazo> VergilPrime: usermod -u UID username
[07:41] <mengazo> VergilPrime: usermod -g GID username
[07:41] <mengazo> the group id (gid) is normally the same as the uid
[07:42] <wbill> im on ubuntu 14.04 and i forgot my passwd im in recovery mode at root, what do i do if it won't let me change the passwd gives me an authentication error
[07:42] <wbill> i checked the passwd file it definately has my id listed
[07:44] <mengazo> VergilPrime: find / -uid OLD_UID | xargs chown username
[07:44] <wbill> authentication token manipulation error
[07:44] <mengazo> VergilPrime: find / -gid OLD_GID | xargs chgrp username
authentication token manipulation error
[07:44] <wbill> im doing a : tb passwd
VergilPrime: find / -gid OLD_GID | xargs chgrp username
im doing a : tb passwd
[07:47] <wbill> anyone?
[07:48] <yousertc> wbill> anyone?
[07:50] <VergilPrime> Wish me luck! :D
[07:51] <wbill> yousertc >wbill > eatme... > /dev/null
[07:51] <mengazo> wbill: Is it possible to chroot into your system from a live CD and change the password using "passwd"?
[07:52] <yousertc> VergilPrime> Wish me luck! :D
[07:52] <mengazo> yousertc: Go away
[07:52] <wbill> for whatever reason live cds dont load properly or usb stick for that amatter
[07:52] <wbill> live usb sticks'
[07:52] <yousertc> wbill> yousertc >wbill > eatme... > /dev/null
[07:52] <wbill> is yousertc a troll???
[07:53] <yousertc> mengazo> wbill: Is it possible to chroot into your system from a live CD and change the password using "passwd"?
[07:53] <mengazo> yousertc needs the banhammer pronto
[07:55] <iBurley> Anybody know if it's safe to install proprietary AMD graphics drivers through the GUI tool on 15.10 yet?
[07:55] <yousertc> Ops! mengazo
[07:56] <yousertc> iBurley: don't know
[07:56] <mengazo> wbill: This article is a bit dated, but it's still relevant: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[07:57] <mengazo> wbill: I'm should be possible to accomplish from another distro and not just Ubuntu
[07:57] <mengazo> wbill: *That should
[08:00] <rtibutfcv> Yep
[08:09] <nipsing> hi
[08:09] <vak> hi all
[08:11] <nipsing> 你好
[08:12] <vak> my ubuntu 15.10 still has many packages that I have installed from Ubuntus 12.*, 13.*, 14.* and some packages are not updated using 15.10 repo! how to force the update for all such packages?
[08:12] <nipsing> reinstall 15.10
[08:13] <vak> nipsing: what for?
[08:13] <vak> example: http://pastebin.com/XSW1QtCA
[08:14] <nipsing> vak, simple to solve all problems
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> vak: not all packages from older versions will still exist on 15.10 either
[08:16] <vak> lotuspsychje: take a look at example
[08:16] <vak> vagrant installed is 1.5 whereas 1.7 is available
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> vak: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?
[08:18] <vak> lotuspsychje: done of course
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> vak: wich ubuntu version did you have before 15.10?
[08:18] <vak> 15.04
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !info vagrant vivid
[08:18] <vak> you see
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> vak: doesnt got your version from your paste weird
[08:19] <vak> vagrant was even in vivid of version 1.6 already
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> vak: wich version you had before vivid?
[08:19] <vak> probably 1.5 that i am still having.
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> vak: ubuntu version sorry
[08:19] <Steve_Jobs> Hi all
[08:20] <vak> and vagrant is just *one* example.
[08:20] <Dumle29> Anyone had any luck with office 365 in ubuntu?
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: there are unity webapps for office 365
[08:20] <Dumle29> I'd like to swap my laptop to linux, but the SSD is too small for dual booting, so I'd like my programs to work :)
[08:20] <vak> lotuspsychje: oh, i did distro upgrades each half-year since 12.04, i guess.
[08:20] <Dumle29> lotuspsychje: I don't use unity, I use gnome :/
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: ask the #ubuntu-gnome guys perhaps if the know
[08:21] <iBurley> Anybody know if it's safe to install proprietary AMD graphics drivers through the GUI tool on 15.10 yet?
[08:21] <Dumle29> will do,thanks :)
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> !info vagrant precise
[08:21] <vak> lotuspsychje: so, abuot 6 distro upgrades
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> vak: did you install packages manual instead of official repos?
[08:22] <vak> lotuspsychje: could be
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> vak: you get errors when sudo apt-get upgrade?
[08:22] <vak> lotuspsychje: nope.
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> vak: what does it do?
[08:23] <vak> lotuspsychje: what 'it' ? vagrant? it's not relevant now. I have about 100 packages of this sort after many years
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> vak: i need to know what happened to your system, as i cant find that version from your paste
[08:25] <vak> lotuspsychje: my current distro version is 15.10
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> vak: yes you already said
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> vak: got ppa's installed?
[08:27] <vak> lotuspsychje: maybe it was installed from ppa. but apt-cache sees clearly that there are newer alternatives, but they are marked of a low priority or something like this and not respected therefore during 'apt-get upgrade"
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> vak: listen mate, if you mix manual packages, ppa's, with official versions your system gets a mess after a while...best to clean install once
[08:28] <vak> lotuspsychje: fresh install isn't the option now
[08:29] <vak> that's why i am here asking...
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> vak: if you had installed everything officially, it would have cleaned up correctly and upgrade to latest
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> vak: try remove/purge the old versions and reinstall new ones
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> vak: and remove all ppa's from your system
[08:31] <vak> lotuspsychje: i cleared the ppa entries already
[08:32] <vak> lotuspsychje: but now idea how to fix the false repo/version priorities mentioned in pastebin above
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> vak: they way i would do this, is make a list of your packages with aptoncd and clean install 15.10 again
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> vak: no sorry, your system should be doing this automaticly
[08:34] <vak> lotuspsychje: i see them quite well in Ubuntu Software Center --> Installed --> Unknown
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> vak: try a manual purge of vagrant and then reinstall the wily version
[08:35] <vak> lotuspsychje: pretty sure it will work. but what about other 100+ packages that sticked over the years here?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> vak: all do them manually
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> vak: or make the list with aptoncd, then purge all old versions and reinstall with aptoncd
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> vak: what happens when you install a new package?
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> iBurley: does the xorg driver not work for you properly?
[08:38] <vak> lotuspsychje: just tried: got a new version as expected.
[08:38] <vak> unpleasant
[08:38] <vak> (((
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> vak: after the next 9months, you might experience the same issues over
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> vak: i would clean install
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> vak: making backups is always a good idea, also on your favorite packages
[08:40] <vak> lotuspsychje: i have enough machines where clean install is not an option. I'd better learn the way to fix such an issue
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> vak: i think mixing manual install with official version will always get you in trouble
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> vak: better start the right way from the start right
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> to avoid situations
[08:42] <pierre__> Hi guys, I never compiled and installed a C++ program on ubuntu yet but now I need to install one and I get errors.. it says C compiler cannot create executables and the config.log is all chinese for me. Can anyone refer me to any kind of help page on this kind of trouble ?
[08:43] <Sachiru> Literally chinese?
[08:43] <pierre__> lol Sachiru !
[08:43] <pierre__> pretty much!
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> !compile | pierre__
[08:44] <Sachiru> As in it spits out chinese characters?
[08:44] <Sachiru> Or are they English, and you just don't understand them?
[08:45] <pierre__> !packages
[08:47] <shredding> I have an upstart script like this and somehow the number of daemons increases over time until my machine runs out of memory: https://dpaste.de/iPNa
[08:47] <shredding> however, only one of them has this 'bash -c' prefix in ps aux
[08:47] <shredding> does that mean that they are initialised somewhere else?
[08:47] <super_> Hello
[08:48] <pierre__> !checkinstall
[08:48] <VergilPrime> :D
[08:48] <super_> exit
[08:49] <shredding> pierre__: That's for me?
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | pierre__
[08:49] <VergilPrime> I lived mengazo
[08:50] <deysaika195> Hello
[08:50] <VergilPrime> Hey
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> vak: try the apt-get clean and such: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[08:59] <Unhammer> anyone know how to change the icon of an instance of a program shown in xfce's alt-tab? (I always have several instances of "sakura" running, and they all have the same icon in alt-tab)
[09:00] <Unhammer> thought 'wmctrl -I' would do it, but no luck
[09:05] <tuor> hi, (using Ubuntu 14.04) I have formated my SD-Card with nautilus and now mounted. When I try to copy something on it or just create an empty file, i get the error: "The destination is read-only."
[09:06] <tuor> The line of mount is: /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/tuor/32GB 01 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[09:06] <tuor> It looks liek mounted rw for me. So what can be the Problem, that I can't write on it?
[09:07] <wbill> anyone know what baf-2.index is in ubuntu
[09:07] <wbill> bamf-2.index
[09:07] <wbill> under /usr/share/applications
[09:07] <tuor> When I open nautilus as root I can write to it.
[09:08] <wbill> and has anyone got skypw to install on 14.04
[09:08] <wbill> skype
[09:08] <Kartagis> wbill: yeah, why?
[09:09] <wbill> how did you do it not sure why im having issues installin g skype it being a .deb package and all
[09:09] <wbill> or is there a version i need to download from somewhere other than thew skype website
[09:09] <Kartagis> I've just downloaded and issued dpkg -i, that's all
[09:10] <Kartagis> download the multi arch for 12.04
[09:10] <wbill> how do you invoke it
[09:10] <Kartagis> invoke what?
[09:11] <wbill> skype
[09:11] <Kartagis> from the menu
[09:12] <wbill> ah what menu
[09:12] <kashyap1113> is there any script to automate canon printer driver installation?
[09:12] <Kartagis> wbill: the OS menu
[09:12] <wbill> it says it is in /usr/bin/skype
[09:13] <Kartagis> it creates a menu item
[09:13] <wbill> ou mean unity
[09:15] <Kartagis> in my case, cairo-dock, but aye
[09:15] <Gnomethrower> Hi there
[09:15] <Gnomethrower> does anyone know of a utility like tar that archives things with deduplication?
[09:16] <kashyap1113> what do you mean by duplication?
[09:17] <bhuddah> you mean compression?
[09:17] <wbill> ok dumb ? what does apt-get install -f do?
[09:18] <kashyap1113> @wbill it will try to install missing dependencies from repository
[09:18] <wbill> dohh, it been doing it for like 2 hours now kricky
[09:19] <kashyap1113> wbill : your connection might be slow
[09:21] <wbill> 80 mbps down and 10 up and i hav elike 0 services running weras i usually have a radio station for my podcast out of her and no issues can download a 1 GB file in like 2 minutes
[09:21] <wbill> just a flood of dep installs my screen is screaming
[09:22] <kashyap1113> Oh man 80 mbps down....You must be feeling like in heaven
[09:23] <wbill> ok finally it installed skype or it installed the deps needed ty for the help
[09:24] <developer> hi
[09:25] <developer> anyone here?
[09:25] <kashyap1113> yes
[09:25] <kashyap1113> hi
[09:25] <nunya> there has GOT to be something better than SKYPE
[09:26] <SCHAAP137> there is
[09:26] <samssammerz> tox
[09:26] <samssammerz> nunya, ^
[09:27] <SCHAAP137> it's called: IRC
[09:27] <nunya> linphone
[09:27] <Kira9204> irc isnt great for calls xD
[09:27] <SCHAAP137> hmm true
[09:27] <SCHAAP137> Google Hangouts works well imho
[09:27] <Kira9204> i'd second Google Hangounts
[09:28] <Kira9204> it works really well
[09:28] <samssammerz> nunya, Tox is a p2p VOIP client that does not include spyware
[09:28] <Kira9204> and has good quality
[09:28] <samssammerz> Google Hangouts, like Skype, is corporate spyware. Google is known to share information with third parties, such as the FBI, and cannot be trusted with your private data.
[09:29] <Kira9204> samssammerz: newsflash, ALL corporations store information about you
[09:29] <samssammerz> Kira9204, Yes, which is why you should use a P2P VOIP application such as Tox that is not run by a large corporation.
[09:29] <nunya> oh crap HANGOUTS duh...kicks SKYPE's arse
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> samssammerz sure you're not from NSA?
[09:30] <nunya> I'll check out TOX
[09:30] <kashyap1113> Does Tox encrypt the data?
[09:30] <samssammerz> kashyap1113, yes
[09:30] <kashyap1113> good
[09:31] <nunya> Hey yeah of yer from the NSA then you HAVE to tell us...it's the law
[09:31] <samssammerz> Yes, it is good. And unlike Skype and Google Hangouts, there is nobody that is holding your encryption keys (so they can't do this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data)
[09:32] <MonkeyDust> ok guys, take discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, keep this channel clear for support
[09:33] <nunya> damn that microsoft {synonym for flacid}
[09:35] <nunya> I was hoping for some assistance with WINE. Seems like most things don't work. Is there a better 'frontend' than PlayItOnLinux?
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> !wine | nunya
[09:38] <samssammerz> nunya, In the rare case that I'm forced to use Windows software, I generally find it easier to just run a pirated copy of Windows in a Virtual Machine.
[09:38] <Dylan____> Hello guys I'm trying to install my b43 driver
[09:39] <nunya> mostly just want it for games
[09:39] <Dylan____> Someone in the forums told me to install b43.zip
[09:39] <akik> samssammerz: no warez here
[09:39] <Dylan____> After doing what the forum mod told me to do
[09:39] <Dylan____> Nothing happened no wifi
[09:39] <Dylan____> And I feel like I'm stuck
[09:39] <Dylan____> I'm tried mod probe nothing happened
[09:39] <Dylan____> I extracted b43.zip
[09:39] <Dylan____> And used these commands
[09:39] <Dylan____> And like people were saying oh it worked etc
[09:40] <Dylan____> Well I feel like I'm been screwed over
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> Dylan____ spare the enter key
[09:40] <Dylan____> So could you help me??
[09:40] <Dylan____> :/
[09:40] <nunya> b43 driver?
[09:40] <Dylan____> I downloaded it off someone's other forum post
[09:41] <Dylan____> They said it would help with my driver or something
[09:41] <samssammerz> akik, Wow hearing the word "warez" takes me back a couple of decades, to my parents basement, searching for a free copy of doom 2 ... but yes, I'll avoid suggesting downloading software for free with bittorrent here.
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> Dylan____ don't trust and download everything from any random site
[09:41] <Dylan____> It wasn't a random site
[09:41] <Dylan____> It was clearly marked Ubuntu
[09:41] <samssammerz> nunya, Broadcom 43
[09:41] <Dylan____> Forums
[09:41] <Dylan____> So it was legit
[09:42] <Dylan____> I have a Broadcom 4322
[09:42] <Dylan____> And it shows up as Broadcom airport extremes but it just doesn't allow me anything
[09:42] <Dylan____> Search google type in this forum post
[09:42] <nunya> Dylan: Which Ubuntu? 14.04?
[09:43] <Dylan____> Yeah
[09:43] <Dylan____> On my MacBook 2010
[09:44] <nunya> what piece of hardware is needing the driver?
[09:44] <Dylan____> Wifi
[09:44] <Dylan____> I need this for the wifi
[09:44] <nunya> hmm
[09:44] <Dylan____> Yeah
[09:44] <Dylan____> :(
[09:45] <Dylan____> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2098717 this is a forum post that the guy had b43.zip
[09:46] <Dylan____> This is my post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300751
[09:47] <afidegnum> good morning all,
[09:47] <nunya> did you use terminal for lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[09:47] <afidegnum> hello, I am developing a GUI application and I am having permission denied on /dev/input/event7 i did chmod 777 to /dev/input/event7 and I am having "Operation not permitted" error how can i make it available to other apps and utilities?
[09:47] <Dylan____> I didn't use that I used
[09:48] <Dylan____> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300751
[09:48] <Dylan____> Scroll to bottom
[09:48] <nunya> lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network will identify your broadcom
[09:48] <Dylan____> And see that lspci
[09:48] <Dylan____> That's what I was told to use
[09:48] <Dylan____> And it came up with the number
[09:48] <Dylan____> It's by Hadath
[09:48] <Dylan____> Hadaka
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> afidegnum there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[09:49] <afidegnum> ok
[09:49] <afidegnum> thanks,
[09:50] <nunya> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx -- Dylan
[09:51] <Dylan____> Is that gonna help me??
[09:51] <Dylan____> Because when I load the additional drivers
[09:51] <Dylan____> It says sta Linux
[09:52] <Dylan____> So I don't know what I'm doing
[09:52] <Dylan____> I'm been told something from someone else followed that
[09:52] <Dylan____> And it doesn't do anything
[09:53] <Dylan____> And also I can't install the propitery drivers for the sta other wise it crashes my Ubuntu
[09:53] <Dylan____> Because it says can't mount cd dvd etc
[09:53] <Dylan____> I don't have long so can you walk me through what I need to download??
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> Dylan____ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:55] <Unhammer> to answer my own question, https://gist.github.com/unhammer/cfa9cd907adcdf391290 lets you change icons of running programs
[09:56] <Dylan____> What do I click on monkey dust
[09:56] <Dylan____> When I'm on that link
[09:57] <Dylan____> By the way I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 not some stupid version before??
[09:59] <pl> Hi. I know my question is specific but I'll try anyway. I upgraded a thinkpad x250 from 15.04 to 15.10, it went fine, but now the system often freezes completely (does not even reply to pings). A hard reboot is needed. This happens quite often. Do you know what issue could it be?
[10:00] <samssammerz> pl, when does it freeze? at boot? or random times during use?
[10:01] <Seveas> pl: smells like kernel or driver issues. Are you using the normal ubuntu kernel? Any binary drivers (amd, nvidia...) in use?
[10:01] <pl> samssammerz, at random times during use, while doing nothing special
[10:01] <samssammerz> pl, Have you checked your log files (dmesg, etc) for clues as to what might be causing it?
[10:01] <pl> Seveas, no proprietary stuff, the laptop is almost 100% intel hardware
[10:02] <pl> samssammerz, as it freezes completely I can't use dmesg :(
[10:02] <Seveas> pl: noting in /var/log/syslog either after reboot?
[10:02] <pl> I have to check
[10:03] <Seveas> maybe make a cronjob that saves dmesg output every minute. There could be symptoms showing up just before the hang
[10:03] <samssammerz> pl, You can check after reboot, before it freezes.
[10:04] <pl> Thanks, I will check the logs
[10:04] <pl> If I want to try an older kernel in 15.10, is there an easy way to install it from the official repository?
[10:04] <samssammerz> pl, And in the worse case, if you can't boot up long enough to do that, you can boot into a liveCD, mount the root partition and just look at the log files that way.
[10:05] <pl> samssammerz, it normally lasts enough time, even one hour or so
[10:07] <Seveas> pl: you can add the 15.04 repos to sources.list and apt-get install linux-image-$old_version
[10:07] <pl> Do you think it's fine if I download linux-image-3.19.0-15-generic from the Vivid archives and install it (dpkg -i) ?
[10:07] <pl> I really don't want to mix the packages
[10:08] <Seveas> you'll need more than linux-image-* probably (linux-image-extra, linux-headers)
[10:08] <Seveas> but it should be fine to install with dpkg after manual downloading
[10:08] <pl> well, thanks
[10:08] <samssammerz> pl, It might be OK, but installing an older kernel version could also cause problems if there are any currently installed packages that depend on the current kernel version. I would suggest trying to look at the log files and fix the problems with the current kernel, rather than downgrading.
[10:09] <Seveas> samssammerz: that's very rare though, the only time that was really a problem was in the younger days of udev
[10:09] <pl> samssammerz, I agree, but in the meantime I really need to have the laptop working...
[10:10] <pl> Even if it's fixed in linux 4.3, it will take a while to get it
[10:10] <samssammerz> Seveas, Indeed, it would probably be OK. But it would also be untested, so who knows? ... and in the meantime, it would just be better to fix the problem, which is probably a really simple issue with drivers
[10:10] <samssammerz> pl, It might be something really simple. Take a moment to look at the logs, see if it's something easy before downgrading.
[10:11] <pl> will do, samssammerz
[10:11] <pl> but I'm not so sure it's a trivial issue, after all it worked fine with ubuntu 15.04, so it's probably a regression that needs to be fixed upstream
[10:12] <samssammerz> pl, Perhaps. But after looking at the logs (which will take a couple of minutes), you might discover that it's a known bug with a known solution.
[10:13] <pl> samssammerz, I can't do it now, I don't have that laptop with me right now, but for sure I'll check later today
[10:13] <pl> thanks
[10:13] <dionysus69> hello all can you explain me how this works? I have a boot menu at startup with debian windows loader and hard drive name, if I select debian i get a grub menu as expected, if I push windows lodaer, I get windows and if I push hard drive I get windows, why does hard drive default to windows bootloader instead of grub? I just have 1 efi partition with all those records inside it.
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69 this is ubuntu, not debian
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !debian | dionysus69
[10:16] <dionysus69> ugh I know but its same
[10:16] <dionysus69> I actually have ubuntu too
[10:17] <cfhowlett> dionysus69, somehow, I doubt that ... and it's NOT the same. ask #debian.
[10:17] <dionysus69> grub is same but ok you dont have to answer lmfo
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69 type /j #debian
[10:18] <samssammerz> dionysus69, They are not the same. Ubuntu is a buggy, bloated bastardization of Debian. But it's OK, because Ubuntu has the latest and gr8est softiez ...
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69 then ask for ubuntu support in the debian channel (meh)
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> samssammerz watch it now
[10:19] * samssammerz grovels
[10:19] <dionysus69> ubuntu channel is more active thats the reason I am asking it here. my question would still be same if I were asking about fedora or whatever
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69 ##linux for general linux questions, this channel is ubuntu dedicated
[10:34] <wbill> ok anoder ? anyone have any issues with skype doing video calls or the configuration thereof i ubuntu 14.04.3
[10:34] <wbill> i wanna see who im talking 2 as scary as that sounds..lol
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> wbill find 'video' on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> ctrl-f
[10:42] <huwjr> fstab setup, rebooted and 1 of several mounts is not mounting? run mount manually and it works as expected? any ideas?
[10:56] <quantalrabbit> This question might be beyond the scope of this channel.... I am trying to install the latest kernel 4.3 from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds on ubuntu precise 12.04 but am getting an error saying that dependency kmod is missing. Latest I'm able to install is kernel 4.0.8.
[10:57] <quantalrabbit> The mainline builds i'm trying are actually on this page: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:58] <Seveas> quantalrabbit: that's not entirely surprising, you're installing a kernel that's 3 years newer than your userland.
[10:59] <quantalrabbit> Seveas: I guess I should have expected this would happen...
[10:59] <Seveas> quantalrabbit: you might be able to install it when manually compiling, but those packages are not meant for 12.04
[11:00] <quantalrabbit> quantalrabbit: i see. that might too much trouble in the long run. was hoping that ubuntu 12.04 could have support for skylake goodness.
[11:01] <auronandace|work> quantalrabbit: have you considered moving to 14.04, that is also lts?
[11:03] <quantalrabbit> Seveas: i'm losing it.. talking to myself. haha
[11:04] <Seveas> quantalrabbit: that's ok, I've seen much worse in here :D
[11:18] <czerasz> I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 with an encrypt hard drive. Since the few latest kernel updates I can't enter my paraphrase when the system boots. It looks like the cursor is not in the input box. The last kerner which works for me is: 3.19.0-26-generic. Has anyone experienced this issue?
[11:18] <czerasz> I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 with an encrypted hard drive. Since the few latest kernel updates I can't enter my paraphrase when the system boots. It looks like the cursor is not in the input box. The last kerner which works for me is: 3.19.0-26-generic. Has anyone experienced this issue?
[11:21] <Seveas> czerasz: I've been using ubuntu with encrypted harddisk and have never seen that. Try hitting [ESC], you'll be dropped in a text console and should be able to enter your password there.
[11:23] <ikonia> Seveas: I've seen that situation on poor supported fake raid controllers, it looks like some of the updates broke some frake raid controllers
[11:24] <czerasz> I'm using a Dell Inspiron-7548...
[11:29] <wam> Hi, since the upgrade to wily, I see empty squares instead of letters for the font ubuntu regular italic (and only italic). This font is used for example in pidgin or even in gnome preferences. Any idea, why regular works but only italic is dead? Should I just find the package and reinstall the italic font?
[11:29] <nikolam> I get terribly slow btrfs send | pv > /dev/null , in range of Kbytes/s
[11:30] <nikolam> And it is fom SSD, when Copying files to another magnetic HD, it copies 200Mb/s it says..
[11:30] <wam> ok never mind
[11:33] <nikolam> DOES btrfs snapshot of root (@) , snapshots also @/home by default maybe??
[11:36] <ikonia> nikolam: it does anything that hangs off the root file system on that same volume
[11:36] <ikonia> if it's on a different volume, then no
[11:38] <nikolam> ikonia, well default install on ubuntu is at "@" subvolume" and /home is at "@home" volume so I suppose it does not
[11:38] <ikonia> nikolam: I'd assume no then
[11:38] <nikolam> But it something else hangs on root file systema nd it is another volume?
[11:39] <redoral> heeeeey
[11:39] <nikolam> I made more volumes, for other disks and share volum
[11:39] <ikonia> nikolam: can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "df -h" in a pastebin, lets see what it looks like
[11:40] <nikolam> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/5bPsa56M let me clean some snapshot and files, I was thinking just to ask the defaults, thanks.
[11:42] <ikonia> nikolam: that looks to me like it will take home as home and / are on the same volume
[11:43] <nikolam> ikonia, they are on differend subvolumes I presume?
[11:43] <nikolam> so when it does snapshot one subvolume (root) it does not snapshto also /home too?
[11:43] <nikolam> I expect it like that?
[11:50] <JessicaJung_> hi guys, if you install a kernel, will it replace the existing kernel you use in your system?
[11:51] <nikolam> ikonia, seems like btrfs-tools are at 3.12-1 version in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and kernel is at 3.19.0-31
[11:51] <k1l_> JessicaJung_: you can only boot one kernel at a time. you can choose in grub with wich kernel you want to boot
[11:51] <nikolam> Could be Ubuntu problem with not upgraded tools in LTS release, for production ?
[11:51] <ikonia> nikolam: it's hard to be clear on, the docs are not solid, I'd assume it does te subvolume named root only
[11:52] <ikonia> but from looking at the top level volume, it should do the whole lot
[11:53] <nikolam> ikonia, I actually had issue with btrfs send is very slow , that is where question of maybe not upgraded btrfs-tools in LTS arised
[11:53] <JessicaJung_> k1 l_: does it like, delete the existing kernel or you have to manually delete it, I'm running 14.04 LTS and I just downloaded the werewolf kernel
[11:54] <k1l_> JessicaJung_: no, it doesnt delete the old one. like i said the new one will added to the list in grub. there you can decide what kernel to boot
[11:55] <nikolam> ikonia, I got question: "Are you using the 3.13 kernel and 3.12 btrfs-progs?" So obviously Ubuntu did not update btrfs-tools when updating kernel... (!)
[11:55] <nikolam> kernel is on 3.19.0-31 on LTS now
[11:56] <JessicaJung_> k1 l_: oh thanks, lemme try that once the LibSSL quiets down
[11:57] <smartass> hi, do cgroups balance memory even if I don't set soft_limit_in_bytes ? 14.04.1 here
[12:02] <JessicaJung_> smartass: I think it groups the pages, IMO, I'm not really sure
[12:03] <JessicaJung_> smartass: you could ask the devs on how it works
[12:06] <kzar> Any idea why there's no amd64 mainline build for 4.3? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.3-unstable/
[12:07] <k1l_> kzar: maybe the build failed
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> vak: got any further with your issue?
[12:08] <nikolam> ikonia, seems like problem with slow btrfs send had something to do with btrfs itself. It seems like running very fast, now I deleted older snapshot of a subvolume using disk space and mare new read-only subvolume to do btrfs send. Now it flies...
[12:08] <Zarus> Hey i got a hybrid graphic card on my laptop when i install fglrx, the login loops what can i do
[12:08] <smartass> JessicaJung_: thank you, which devs would it be?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: did you test radeon driver (xorg)?
[12:09] <Zarus> i had xorg but then i was not using my card with a gpu
[12:09] <JessicaJung_> smartass: I guess the cgroups devs could help you out
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: wich ubuntu version?
[12:10] <Zarus> 14.04 lts
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: radeon should work fine, anything unusual in your logs about it?
[12:11] <Zarus> dont know what you mean
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: syslog and dmesg
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: they might hold errors about the radeon driver
[12:13] <smartass> JessicaJung_: ok, would you have ny suggestions as to how to contact them? a mailing list or some IRC channel?
[12:14] <vak> lotuspsychje: corrected about 50 pkgs manually in 20 min. postponed the rest
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> vak: cool :p
[12:15] <JessicaJung_> as of now, smartass, you could ask around the devs of ubuntu via mailing list but wait for someone to turn up with a knowledge of cgroups
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: /var/log/syslog example or the log viewer icon
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: have you installed ubuntu with internet enabled + updates during setup?
[12:18] <Zarus> yup
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: what kind of card did you have ( sudo lshw -C video )
[12:19] <Zarus> radeon 4200/5650
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: it was clean install or upgrade from a previous ubuntu?
[12:21] <omen> btw. just to be curious: anyone had any problems with Ubuntu 15.04 and AMD R9 290?
[12:21] <Zarus> i removed gfglrx from termian that helped but the computer is lagging, clean install dint like win10, so i tried ubuntu :)
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: ok great, if you can pastebin your syslog ill take a look at it
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> omen: best to ask your specific issue to the channel mate
[12:23] <omen> I don't have any, I'm just preparing. I have 290 and ubuntu 15.04 with no problems.
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> omen: preparing for what?
[12:23] <omen> for worst
[12:25] <Zarus> lotuspsychje: give me a min
[12:26] <tomhardy> i'm trying to connnect to a shared folder from osx. when i try to connect as a user it says "there was a problem connecting to the sever "blabla"
[12:27] <ikonia> "blah blah" doesn't help
[12:27] <tomhardy> when i try and connect as guest, it says the operation can't be completed because the original item "share" can't be found
[12:27] <tomhardy> blabla is the name of the server
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:28] <hjjg> hi!
[12:28] <tomhardy> so any idea on how to debug the issue?
[12:28] <gulzar> what is a good partiton schema for ubuntu14.04 server edition on a 1TB HDD?
[12:28] <hjjg> is it possible to downgrade zfs-on-linux to a specific version?
[12:28] <omen> ex4?
[12:28] <omen> partion schema, i have no idea
[12:29] <gulzar> omen: the size of /, /home/ boot etc
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> !zfs | hjjg
[12:30] <ikonia> tomhardy: what technology are you using to share the folder on ubuntu
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> gulzar: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help with that?
[12:30] <omen> ikonia: magic
[12:30] <tomhardy> ikonia, right click, share folder
[12:30] <ikonia> omen: be helpful - or be quiet
[12:30] <ikonia> tomhardy: ok, samba then
[12:31] <omen> :(
[12:31] <gulzar> lotuspsychje: ok
[12:31] <ikonia> tomhardy: so you need to verify that the mac can talk to the ubuntu machine using the samba/cifs client
[12:31] <ikonia> that would be the starting point
[12:31] <Seveas> gulzar: tiny boot and the rest an lvm pv. Create a small-ish volume (50GB) for the root filesystem and separate volumes for each application you put on it and its data
[12:32] <hjjg> lotuspsychje: thanks for the Link. I've seen this article already - I don't see how this answers my question.
[12:32] <tomhardy> ikonia: yeah ok.. trying to find the client
[12:33] <tomhardy> mount_smbfs: server connection failed: Operation timed out << that's what i get when i try to mount it
[12:33] <ikonia> tomhardy: so that suggests either a.) the samba server is not running on ubuntu b.) a firewall/something is blocking it, c.) you're talking to the wrong machine
[12:33] <hjjg> lotuspsychje: but thank you for the message to gulzar. I'll ask that same question in #ubuntu-server, because, in my case, it is server related.
[12:34] <tomhardy> ikonia: hmm, i wonder if i can mount via ssh
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> hjjg: ok i hope youl find your answer
[12:34] <ikonia> tomhardy: that is a different technology
[12:35] <tomhardy> the problem is i have never been able to get osx <-> windows <-> ubuntu to actually talk to each other, even with a clean install of ubuntu
[12:35] <Skubb> Hey, has anyone attempted to extend their home partition with LVM/LUKS after cloning to a larger drive?
[12:35] <ikonia> tomhardy: I do it all the time without issue
[12:35] <ikonia> Skubb: yes,
[12:35] <ArchNoob> hello here, how can i know my monitor driver description?
[12:35] <tomhardy> it's odd. i thought it would be right click, share folder.. then connect from the other machines
[12:36] <tomhardy> ubuntu <-> ubuntu works fine
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:36] <Skubb> I seem to be missing something, I cant find out how to expand my home to take up the extra space
[12:36] <ArchNoob> BluesKaj: Hello there!
[12:37] <Skubb> All documentation points to fresh installs but my set-up has remained unchanged since 2013 with Ubuntu 12-10
[12:37] <BluesKaj> hi ArchNoob
[12:37] <ikonia> Skubb: extend the logical volume
[12:38] <Skubb> I have extended the logical volume however my home still reported 233 GB instead of 480 GB
[12:39] <ikonia> Skubb: exten the logical volume then
[12:39] <nikolam> Skubb, you can use btrfs and do it all at that level
[12:39] <Skubb> Im using Ext4 and do not want to change FS or have a fresh install
[12:39] <frostschutz> Skubb, did you grow the filesystem after making the volume larger? resize2fs
[12:40] <nikolam> migrating from ext4 to btrfs is easy an dyou won't need LVm anymore, because it is integrated
[12:40] <crlcan81> I know this is likely not the place for questions specific to a program that is available on other things besides Ubuntu but I've not really found any irc support for this program in particular, and have already attempted to send emails to the people who run this particular audio stream am still awaiting an answer. I wish to play a local college station's web based audio stream using another program then what is 'default' for such things, and
[12:40] <crlcan81> can't seem to get it to 'save' instead of download and launch using chrome, and when it loads using VLC it doesn't tell me anything at all about the stream so I can use the same data to open it using the program I want to try and use.
[12:40] <Bernzel> Anyone got a suggestion on what to do if I don't have enough room on my ssd to update the given updates from Software Updater? I've already removed as much as I can. Should I just ignore them?
[12:40] <Skubb> I did; I used the default set-up Ubuntu 12-10 which automated the process for LVM/LUKS
[12:41] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !paste > zarus like this
[12:41] <nikolam> ext4 is stupid because doesn't have snapshots, send, checksums, raid..
[12:41] <Skubb> I dont want to change to btrfs, I want to know how to update home with the additional space
[12:41] <nikolam> ok sorry Skubb
[12:41] <crlcan81> I'm using 14.04 LTS Ubuntu, not sure exact version at the moment but I can find out, and I am not using Unity either, but attempt to use as close to default on programs that I can while allowing me to customize the setup to my needs.
[12:41] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, I've done that. Still not near enough room :/
[12:42] <frostschutz> Skubb, needs more info then... df -h /home/your/name/ should display the device and filesystem size; blockdev --getsize64 /dev/device should give you the device size; result?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !home | Bernzel make a /home reinstall lubuntu over existing ubuntu.
[12:43] <Skubb> $ df -h
[12:43] <Skubb> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[12:43] <Skubb> udev 977M 0 977M 0% /dev
[12:43] <Skubb> tmpfs 200M 9.7M 190M 5% /run
[12:43] <Skubb> /dev/dm-1 233G 218G 2.9G 99% /
[12:43] <Skubb> tmpfs 996M 160K 995M 1% /dev/shm
[12:43] <cfhowlett> Skubb, ue pastebinit
[12:44] <Skubb> http://pastebin.com/Sd7Lrzhn
[12:44] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, well the update is on 120mb and I have 36gb free space on that disk. But it claims I need to free up space in the /boot directory?
[12:44] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, ah! you, sir, have old kernels and need to clear some out!
[12:44] <ikonia> Skubb: thats the file system, not the volume size
[12:45] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, show me the
[12:45] <frostschutz> Skubb, sudo lsblk; sudo blockdev --getsize64 /dev/dm-1?
[12:45] <Bernzel> way senpai
[12:45] <cfhowlett> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels Bernzel
[12:45] <Bernzel> thanks! cfhowlett
[12:46] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, sorry, wrong url ...
[12:46] <cfhowlett> http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[12:46] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, Ok!
[12:46] <Skubb> http://pastebin.com/BhFXkj08
[12:46] <Skubb> $ sudo blockdev --getsize64 /dev/dm-1
[12:46] <Skubb> 477475373056
[12:48] <frostschutz> Skubb, looks fine, should be: sudo resize2fs /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[12:49] <frostschutz> if it's ext4 as you said
[12:50] <Skubb> Nice one, that was the final thing to do
[12:51] <Skubb> I cant believe I haven’t came across that or noticed that final command. Maybe I missed it because all the tutorials were starting from scratch
[12:52] <Skubb> This has been the most painless migration I have ever done. Went from 256 GB to 480 GB, using Clonezilla (expert mode with -k1) which took two hours, now extending in a matter seconds
[12:53] <tomhardy> ok with my ubuntu problems i can list the shares using smbutil, i just cant mount or connect to them
[12:56] <Asdasd> How do i get bf2 on linux with dual screen?
[12:57] <Skubb> Thanks for the help
[13:06] <ArchNoob> hello here, how can i know my monitor driver description?
[13:08] <p4trix> I want to reproduce a Dvd. I think I ll need to mount the DVD device.
[13:08] <sarawara> anywhere to ask a question related to typing chinese ?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !cn | sarawara
[13:08] <p4trix> How do I list the devices: Like fdisk -l but for the optical devices?
[13:08] <sarawara> In English I meant
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ArchNoob: you mean the graphics card driver?
[13:12] <sarawara> cfhowlett I have a problem when I type for example when I type "shen me", I get "sang enme" (and the corresponding characters, so not those for "shen me", though [shenme] is to be seen near the "sang enme", might it be a faulty setting? (I had no trouble before)
[13:12] <mjayk> dpkg: error processing package matlab-support (--configure):
[13:12] <ArchNoob> lotuspsychje: I guess.. Yes!
[13:12] <mjayk> i get that error on all apt commands
[13:12] <cfhowlett> sarawara, this is ubuntu? not ubuntu-kylin??
[13:12] <mjayk> however the program matlab-support seams to be working fine
[13:12] <mjayk> any suggestions ?
[13:13] <sarawara> I'm sorry cfhowlett, yes 14.04
[13:14] <cfhowlett> sarawara, really might be better to ask in one of the chinese language ubuntu channels. While it's true I'm in China, I do NOT speak Chinese nor do I have chinese language support installed.
[13:14] <dhalsim> hello, I'm trying to add a new startup script to init.d, If I "sudo ./myscript start" it works, but "sudo service myscript start" it just prints "myscript start/post-start, process 3098"
[13:16] <sarawara> What channel would that be? (not in chinese I hope, cause I don't speak chinese (yet :D) )
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !cn | sarawara
[13:16] <sarawara> is !cn a channel cfhowlett?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> huh. #ubuntu-cn
[13:17] <k1l_> !alis | sarawara
[13:17] <k1l_> sarawara: search alis if there is a general chinese channel on freenode
[13:17] <ArchNoob> hello here, how can i know my monitor driver description?
[13:17] <beecarr> hi guys, am tying to upgrade ubuntu 12.4 to ubuntu 14.3, on my laptop. I persistently get : Problem occurred while loading the URL http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement.html?lang=en_GB&os=ubuntu&ver=14.04.3%20LTS
[13:18] <beecarr> Is there anywy round this?
[13:18] <k1l_> beecarr: what are you doing exactly? running the versionupgrade?
[13:18] <sarawara> k1l_ I don't need a chinese channel, I need someone English who knows about keyboard input for chinese
[13:19] <beecarr> yes just that from the update -manager
[13:19] <k1l_> sarawara: please specifiy what you need support with exactly. so long i just saw you taling about learning chinese
[13:20] <k1l_> beecarr: open up a terminal and do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you have the latest version of 12.04 installed. if there are any errors please put all the output into a pastebin and link it here
[13:20] <ArchNoob> Hello, a little help please. I'm using i3-wm, with dual screen. Whenever I boot my pc, while not connected to the monitor and then connect it later, It doesn't recognize untill i log out then login. How can I get around this issue?
[13:20] <beecarr> will do . many thanks
[13:22] <k1l_> ArchNoob: seems like i3 is so minimal and not running the plug&play services in the background.
[13:23] <sarawara> k1l_ something is wrong with the text entry for pin yin I'm on 14.04 lts : for example when I type "shen me", I get "sang enme" (and the corresponding characters, so not those for "shen me", though [shenme] is to be seen near the "sang enme", might it be a faulty setting? (I had no trouble before)
[13:24] <cousteau> Hi. Ubuntu 12.04, trying to install mingw-w64 via apt-get, I'm getting "mingw-w64 : Depends: gcc-mingw-w64 but it is not going to be installed / E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[13:25] <k1l_> cousteau: please run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and show the output in a pastebin
[13:25] <cousteau> is that the same as installing all updates? (I just did that)
[13:25] <ArchNoob> k1l_: mmmh nice answer. That explains more.. Thank you!
[13:26] <k1l_> cousteau: yes, but it also installed held packages
[13:26] <cousteau> oh
[13:26] <bruce_lee> \(^_^)/ @all
[13:26] <bruce_lee> how long is ubuntu 14.04 going to be supported?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !lts | bruce_lee
[13:27] <bruce_lee> eol this year or next year?
[13:27] <bruce_lee> :)
[13:27] <k1l_> bruce_lee: 5 years
[13:27] <beecarr> Back again. Heres my feed back from my sudo : W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/linux.dropbox.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[13:27] <beecarr> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[13:27] <beecarr> Reading package lists... Done
[13:27] <beecarr> Building dependency tree
[13:27] <beecarr> Reading state information... Done
[13:27] <beecarr> Calculating upgrade... Done
[13:27] <beecarr> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[13:27] <bruce_lee> thank you! @all
[13:27] <k1l_> ArchNoob: did you have a read here already? seems like its a common issue: https://i3wm.org/docs/multi-monitor.html
[13:28] <cousteau> dist-upgrade: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. full output: http://codepad.org/yl0Uwp5t
[13:28] <omilun> hello i need to mound a flash memory on a pc ?
[13:28] <k1l_> beecarr: please put it all on paste.ubuntu.com and link it here
[13:29] <beecarr> right
[13:29] <BluesKaj> omilun, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:29] <omilun> when i mount /dev/sdb i said :linux-zq5p:/media/disk # mount /dev/sdb
[13:29] <omilun> mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[13:29] <k1l_> cousteau: what says a "apt-cache policy mingw-w64"?
[13:29] <beecarr> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:30] <omilun> BluesKaj: i need to ssh on my pc
[13:30] <zykotick9> omilun: "sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt" <- you're missing the mount point (if it's not pre-setup in fstab)
[13:30] <crlcan81> Does anyone here have skills with MOCP or MOC itself? I'm on ubuntu 14.04, unsure of precise version, but I'm wishing to do something that i think can be done as lately I've found a stream I couldn't play at all now plays on my browser, and can be opened using VLC. I simply wish to use MOCP instead to play the same stream. Just not sure how to get the proper address vlc uses to open it and copy it to MOCP itself. What I did use originally
[13:30] <crlcan81> isn't the right stream url exactly.
[13:30] <cousteau> er... ok, after tracing all the "won't be installed" packages, I found out that apparently I can't have mingw32 and mingw-w64 simultaneously
[13:31] <crlcan81> If someone mentioned an answer to my question I didn't notice as you didn't mention my name directly so I didn't see a 'highlight' relating to my question.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> omilun, you can run the command once you ssh into it
[13:31] <elok> /server -ssl 37.59.196.102 40079 GpkRVLp7rTi76WC
[13:31] <elok> /server -ssl 37.59.196.102 40079 GpkRVLp7rTi76WC
[13:31] <elok> server -ssl 37.59.196.102 40079 GpkRVLp7rTi76WC
[13:31] <elok> RDF 3
[13:33] <omilun> zykotick9: when i use only mount it dose not know my flash memory
[13:33] <cousteau> k1l_, http://codepad.org/c4X4FvvZ in case you were curious
[13:33] <cousteau> but it seems to be an issue of mingw32 and mingw-w64 being mutually exclusive
[13:34] <k1l_> cousteau: yes, sounds like that.
[13:35] <zykotick9> omilun: i'm unclear on what you mean. are you sure it's /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1 or a different device sdc perhaps?
[13:36] <k1l_> beecarr: i did not see a pastebin of the output yet
[13:36] <k1l_> !paste | beecarr
[13:36] <cousteau> damn, I thought I could have both since their names are different
[13:36] <beecarr> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:36] <k1l_> beecarr: that is not paste.ubuntu.com
[13:36] <cousteau> so the only way to compare them on this machine is to uninstall one and install the other each time, or to download and install it manually
[13:36] <beecarr> how do I do that pls,
[13:37] <cousteau> step 1: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:37] <k1l_> beecarr: mark all the text, copy it to paste.ubuntu.com. get a new url when sending the text, paste the url here. like uploading a photo just with text
[13:38] <cfhowlett> beecarr, or run your command in terminal and append | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:38] <cousteau> step 2: paste the huge amount of text you were going to paste here on the Content frame
[13:38] <cousteau> step 3: click [Paste!]
[13:38] <cousteau> step 4: copy the URL you get redirected to (which will be something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/ASADfsdfaASDf4) and paste it here
[13:39] <sarawara> k1l_ here you can see what is happening: I type shen me, but get something different : http://imagebin.ca/v/2LAdwK28qaeb
[13:39] <joel> I recently pulled an external video card out of my machine, I'm now using onboard video. When I log into X I get shown a screen that says ubuntu 14.04 lts in the bottom right, but it's as if my desktop environment isn't being started. Calls to xset say unable to open display "". Thoughts on how to fix?
[13:39] <beecarr> Sorry guys must go now . Will be back soon. Many thanks
[13:40] <k1l_> sarawara: what website is that?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> sarawara, is this in the terminal or your browser
[13:42] <k1l_> sarawara: see this site: http://www.pinyinjoe.com/faq/ubuntu-1404-chinese-ime-problems-faq.htm
[13:43] <k1l_> sarawara: but since i dont use chinese you would have more luck finding one in #ubuntu-cn who uses chinese input
[13:43] <pjph> Hai
[13:44] <clecio> abc
[13:45] <pjph> How many ram isu ubuntu used
[13:45] <cfhowlett> pjph, depends. open your terminal and type in this command: free
[13:45] <k1l_> pjph: did you install it already? if not see here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME
[13:48] <smartass> hi, what is the recommnded way to set up cgroups in ubuntu 14.04.3 ? cgroup-bin does not have any daemons enabled, only some in examples
[13:51] <smartass> the init scripts in examples seem to be only for RH systems
[13:52] <pjph> What is best linux de?
[13:53] <Pici> pjph: the one you like best
[13:54] <zykotick9> pjph: What is the best colour?
[13:56] <pjph> I just use kde,xfce and mate but i like mate ,i had not tried unity yet
[13:56] <pjph> nn
[13:57] <pjph> X
[13:59] <Zarus> I removed my glfrx drivers, and cant get xorg graphic drivers to work waht to do ?
[14:03] <joel> it seems like it's trying to load a non-existant nvidia driver and I don;t know how to stop it
[14:05] <hateball> joel: Have a look in /etc/modprobe.d/ and see if there's anything there
[14:07] <Palm_premium> I use Gnome shell 3.18 the default Debian desktop
[14:07] <Palm_premium> Still beats Unity :P
[14:09] <crlcan81> I am a cairo dock fan myself, even if I'd love to use mate more.
[14:09] <crlcan81> My favorite overall has been openbox with tint2 taskbar, but it doesn't offer all the fatures I need for everything I want to do on this system.
[14:10] <pjph> I tried many distro in vm but it seems laggy what may the cause of it?
[14:10] <crlcan81> Yah, honestly an abacus beats unity, it's the Linux equivilent of the windows metro UI.
[14:10] <Palm_premium> How is Cairo now a days. I used a couple of years ago when Ubuntu still came with the classic gnome desktop
[14:10] <k1l_> pjph: too less ressources for the vm
[14:10] <crlcan81> what version did you use? I can say one major flaw still remains that bugs me, though some other things I dealt with seemed to be smoothed over toa degree.
[14:11] <k1l_> crlcan81: Palm_premium please take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic so we can have technical support in here
[14:11] <crlcan81> sorry we shall
[14:11] <Val_> Hi, I have a script, strt.sh, which is executable and runs properly from the CL using "/home/ipt/strt.sh" I add it to my crontab but it fails to execute. I've done google searches and tried a number of fixes, but am missing something. Any help appreciated.
[14:14] <EriC^^> Val_: add > /tmp/script.log 2>&1 to the end of the command
[14:15] <Val_> ok, once sec EriC^^
[14:15] <roscoe> Is it possible to install older,unsupported versions of Ubuntu on Windows XP computers or is 12.04 the earliest that will work?
[14:16] <EriC^^> !lubuntu | roscoe
[14:16] <EriC^^> roscoe: lubuntu is made for older hardware
[14:16] <cfhowlett> roscoe, lubuntu for the win
[14:17] <roscoe> is there a seperate installation CD available for lubuntu?
[14:17] <EriC^^> releases.ubuntu.com roscoe
[14:17] <cfhowlett> lubuntu.net roscoe
[14:17] <Val_> EriC^^ /tmp/script.log 2>&1 added, script run, tried to cat the log and got "/tmp/script.log: No such file or directory"
[14:18] <EriC^^> Val_: add a > before /tmp/script.log
[14:18] <roscoe> thanks
[14:18] <Val_> 2>&1?
[14:18] <Val_> lol cool, thanks :d
[14:19] <Pici> Val_: 2>&1 sends stderr to the same place that stdout is going, which in this case is the logfile mentioned above.
[14:21] <Palm_premium> lo
[14:21] <Palm_premium> lo
[14:21] <pjph> What is the best distro to play dota 2?
[14:22] <Palm_pre1ium> hello
[14:22] <crlcan81> why so many palms, what's happening to palm's connection, is it a 'bot of some kind, or script?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Palm_pre1ium, this is ubuntu support. ask your questions.
[14:22] <k1l_> pjph: one that works for you. and since you ask in #ubuntu its ubuntu :)
[14:23] <Palm_premium> exit
[14:23] <akxwi_dave> pjph, I find xubuntu seems to be the best for games. All flavours ill play games great but for me they seem to run better under xfce
[14:24] <Palm_premium> hello
[14:24] <k1l_> Palm_premium: are you done now? please keep this channel free for ubuntu support
[14:24] <Val_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13082508/ is the script I am truing to run - adding the logging seemed to do nothhing
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Palm_premium, this is ubuntu support. stay on topic or play somewhere else
[14:26] <Val_> EriC^^: my crontab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13082521/
[14:26] <EriC^^> Val_: you're never calling the function
[14:27] <Val_> EriC^^: Line 22?
[14:27] <EriC^^> Val_: either just make it if [[ ... or add start_rtorrent at the bottom
[14:28] <EriC^^> no i mean the function start_rtorrent isn't being called
[14:28] <Val_> ah, I see - once sec let me load the poriginal and see what i missed
[14:29] <edenc_> Is this a reasonable irc to ask a beginner bash question on?
[14:30] <baizon> edenc_: just afk
[14:30] <EriC^^> ask away
[14:30] <baizon> *ask
[14:30] <Val_> EriC^^ http://forums.rutorrent.org/index.php?topic=1442.0 is the original and as i say, run manually it does what it should - it onloy fails when i try to run it via crontab
[14:30] <edenc_> so I'm working from copied code, just want to make a folder if it doesn't exist. The copied code uses if [ $# -ne 1 ] then mkdir $DIR fi
[14:30] <EriC^^> Val_: when you run it manually what do you type?
[14:31] <edenc_> why check arguments in script?
[14:31] <Val_> ./strt.sh or /home/ipt/strt.sh
[14:31] <Val_> let me verify again :D
[14:32] <Val_> yes, the forst works properly, EriC^^
[14:32] <EriC^^> edenc_: that just checks if you supplied a dir after the script name i guess
[14:33] <EriC^^> Val_: hmm, try to add start_rtorrent at the bottom of the script
[14:33] <edenc_> Okay so it wouldnt run if $DIR wasn't defined basically
[14:34] <mou> hi
[14:34] <EriC^^> edenc_: yeah
[14:34] <mou> I love having amazon with normal installation of new ubuntu
[14:34] <gremlin_> Hey
[14:35] <Val_> Sorry, EriC^^ I missed a few lines from the paste: start_rtorrent >/dev/null exit 0
[14:35] <Val_> exit 0 is its own line
[14:35] <cric32> anyone here fimilar with mdadm ? i need some help trying to recover an array if anyone has a sec
[14:36] <EriC^^> edenc_: it actually checks if the parameters are not equal to 1
[14:36] <EriC^^> edenc_: so if you pass nothing it also runs, or 2 arguments etc. too
[14:36] <Daffy> What's the help room?
[14:36] <EriC^^> Daffy: here
[14:36] <edenc_> EriC_:, that's helpful.
[14:36] <EriC^^> Val_: oh ok, makes sense now
[14:36] <Daffy> awesome i need some advice or pointed to a place i can learn.
[14:37] <Val_> yeah, my bad - sorry
[14:37] <EriC^^> Val_: remove the /dev/null part so it outputs then check /tmp/script.log again
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !manual | Daffy,
[14:37] <Val_> ah! yes, that makes sense. one sec
[14:37] <cfhowlett> Daffy, also, www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads. Start with #0. read. #1. read. >>> #102
[14:37] <Daffy> Thank you Ubottu. I don't know that it'll go into what i really need here.
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !details | Daffy,
[14:39] <Daffy> Okay. So I installed cpufrequtils to help conserve battery life since it was just terrible. But i noticed that running cpufreq-info in terminal tells me ubuntu is seeing my cpu's hardware limits as 1.10ghz - 1.90ghz
[14:40] <Daffy> but i know my cpu caps at 3.2ghz with turbo
[14:40] <Val_> EriC^^: I replaced > /dev/null withe the clause you initially game me, ran the script and cat /tmp/script.log returned an empty file
[14:41] <Val_> EriC^^: rtorrent executed in the screen fine
[14:41] <EriC^^> Val_: oh ok
[14:41] <EriC^^> maybe cause it's running in screen
[14:42] <Val_> if the script executes shouldn't it execute under cron?
[14:42] <Val_> sorry, this is all brand new to me
[14:42] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[14:42] <Val_> well, if the script executes successfully manually
[14:42] <k1l_> Daffy: for newer intel cpus it uses intel-pstate and it sets the limit to what is actually needed right now to not burn too much battery for running at turbo speed
[14:42] <Val_> shouldnt that same command execute when added to my crontab?
[14:43] <EriC^^> Val_: not necessarily, different environment and stuff
[14:43] <Val_> ah
[14:43] <Daffy> Ah. I probably should have mentioned i'm actually using an amd apu.
[14:43] <EriC^^> Val_: try just putting the command without screen so you can see what output it gives when cron runs it
[14:43] <Palm_premium> val_: check your syslog, if the cron has run you should be able to find it there
[14:45] <EriC^^> Val_: is rtorrent a gui app?
[14:45] <Palm_premium> EriC^^: rtorrent is an ncurses application, quite user friendly for a command line torrent client.
[14:46] <Val_> grep of syslog shows my edit just now, but the last list activity is an hour ago.
[14:46] <Val_> what palm said. I'da just said no :D
[14:46] <EriC^^> Palm_premium: i see
[14:46] <EriC^^> Val_: does it say CRON <your command here> in syslog?
[14:47] <Palm_premium> EriC^^:grep CRON /var/log/syslog
[14:47] <Val_> Nov 2 14:45:01 tedsSB CRON[35094]: (ipt) CMD (/home/ipt/strt.sh)
[14:48] <EriC^^> ok
[14:48] <Val_> but when I do a screen -ls it shows no sessions
[14:48] <Val_> nor is the service available
[14:48] <EriC^^> Val_: try replacing COMMAND= in the script with just "rtorrent"
[14:48] <bodom> Hi there
[14:49] <EriC^^> COMMAND=rtorrent
[14:49] <Daffy> hmm i see what you're saying i think.
[14:49] <Daffy> Maybe it's not the actual max i'm looking at but rather a range it's currently running at?
[14:50] <Daffy> That doesn't seem right though. lscpu also is listing it as 1.90 max.
[14:50] <Val_> EriC^^: It hangs like there is a process running invisibly
[14:50] <Val_> ctrl-c breaks it
[14:51] <rafael_> HELP. My Ubuntu 15.10 won't shutdown. [Sorry bad english]
[14:52] <EriC^^> Daffy: do something cpu intensive maybe
[14:52] <Palm_premium> rafael_: sudo shutdown -hP now
[14:52] <EriC^^> Val_: try it in cron
[14:53] <BluesKaj> rafael_, ctl+alt+delete?
[14:53] <Palm_premium> rafael_: is it hanging during the process of shutting down or are you getting an error?
[14:55] <Daffy> would running a couple tabs playing youtube videos work?
[14:55] <EriC^^> hmm
[14:55] <EriC^^> try for i in {0..100000000}; do echo $(($i+$i)); done
[14:56] <Val_> EriC^^: No go I'm afraid. It shows as executing in syslog but no rtorrent
[14:57] <EriC^^> maybe drop a couple zeros
[14:58] <frostschutz> Val_, if you're open to alternative solutions, I run rtorrent in a screen using https://github.com/frostschutz/Screen-Manager (which lets you sm start rtorrent, sm attach rtorrent, sm stop rtorrent, also in cron)
[14:58] <EriC^^> Val_: what about /tmp/script.log ?
[14:59] <Val_> ah hah!
[15:01] <Val_> EriC^^: /home/ipt/strt.sh: 24: /home/ipt/strt.sh: [[: not found
[15:01] <mou> hi
[15:02] <mou> I love having amazon from normal installation thank you so much
[15:02] <mou> i love you
[15:02] <Val_> EriC^^ if [[ -z $(pgrep -u $USER rtorrent) ]]; then
[15:02] <fynn> Hi. I just finished installing Ubuntu onto my Mid-2012 MackbookPro. Installation seems to have gone smoothly, gives?but now it won't boot at all. What
[15:02] <mou> ubuntu really helps linux developpement
[15:02] <Val_> frostschutc: thanks, if i can not get this sorted i will deffo look into it
[15:04] <Daffy> That did not go well.
[15:04] <Daffy> I actually froze up.
[15:04] <Daffy> and had to reboot.
[15:05] <Guest13004> Hi, I am looking for help with setuid and setgid. I want to start xampp as root user with out having to type password everytime. If I understood correctly, it can be done with setuid and set gid. This is how I did it:
[15:05] <Guest13004> rain@rain:/opt/lampp$ sudo chown root managger-linux-x64.run
[15:05] <Guest13004> [sudo] password for rain:
[15:05] <Guest13004> rain@rain:/opt/lampp$ sudo chmod u+s manager-linux-x64.run
[15:05] <Guest13004> rain@rain:/opt/lampp$ ./manager-linux-x64.run
[15:05] <EriC^^> Val_: sorry, got dc
[15:05] <Guest13004> Now it runs but not as root
[15:05] <Daffy> oh
[15:05] <Guest13004> Because it does not have permissions to start/stop apache
[15:05] <Val_> EriC^^ no worries, I'll repeat the last
[15:05] <Val_> EriC^^: /home/ipt/strt.sh: 24: /home/ipt/strt.sh: [[: not found
[15:05] <Val_> EriC^^ if [[ -z $(pgrep -u $USER rtorrent) ]]; then
[15:05] <Guest13004> And I still have to use sudo ...
[15:06] <Guest13004> Any ideas how to get it work?
[15:06] <Val_> Fynn, When I bootcamped to Windows I sometimes had to hold the option (I think) key down to get the boot menu - maybe that will help you?
[15:06] <EriC^^> Val_: maybe it's running the script with sh
[15:07] <Val_> EriC^^: #!/bin/bash at the head of the script. Is there a way to explicitly invoke bash in the crontab?
[15:08] <EriC^^> Val_: in the crontab type bash /path/to/script
[15:08] <Val_> k, thats easy enough :D
[15:09] <Daffy> hmm
[15:09] <Daffy> could it be something with the gallium driver?
[15:10] <Daffy> kidn of terrified to switch to the proprietary driver... last time it bent my system over and boinked it.
[15:10] <artois> what's that mean?
[15:10] <artois> you had to reinstall the open source one?
[15:11] <artois> sounds like the worst possible outcome! :p
[15:11] <Val_> EriC^^: pgrep: invalid user name: rtorrent (from bash /home/ipt/strt.sh in crontab)
[15:11] <Daffy> no, it messed everything up even for the open source one.
[15:11] <Daffy> reverting back left a ton of problems.
[15:11] <EriC^^> Val_: you're adding it in crontab -e?
[15:12] <Val_> EriC^^ yes
[15:12] <EriC^^> oh
[15:12] <EriC^^> try pgrep -u rtorrent in a shell
[15:13] <EriC^^> oh nevermind
[15:13] <Val_> same message :D
[15:13] <EriC^^> Val_: modify the script
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Daffy, intel graphics ?
[15:13] <EriC^^> USER=${USER:-$1}
[15:13] <EriC^^> this line
[15:13] <EriC^^> just set it to USER=rtorrent
[15:14] <alteregoa> where can i get configure options from ubuntu packages?
[15:15] <Daffy> hmm
[15:16] <EriC^^> Val_: or put it in the rtorrent user's cron, sudo crontab -u rtorrent -e
[15:17] <EriC^^> actually don't nevermind
[15:18] <Daffy> Hmm even dmidecode -t 4 reads it back as that.
[15:18] <Daffy> max speed 1900Mhz.. current speed 1900Mhz.
[15:18] <Daffy> that's like.. the minimum speed this goes.
[15:19] <Daffy> the version and cpu info is correct though.
[15:19] <AvocetVIS> trying to create a ipv6 tunnel using hurricane electric and here's what I got >> http://pastebin.com/xjWvVwvF - I should mention there is also a vpn server setup on this machine. and the machine itself is actually a vps
[15:20] <Guest49226> does anyone know of a way to force a drive to be say /dev/sdb or /dev/sda. I have a raid with a drive having issues, one is /dev/sda and the other is /dev/sdb but no matter which drive I pull on reboot the leftover one is now /dev/sda
[15:20] <EriC^^> Guest49226: udev rule maybe
[15:21] <Guest49226> EriC^^ is that something I can assign a /dev/sdX* to a UUID or something?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> not familiar enough anymore with amd graphics and their manydrivers and options , seems kind of hit and miss
[15:22] <Val_> Well, that's beaten me up enough for today. Thanks, EriC^^, frostschutz
[15:23] <Daffy> Yea.
[15:23] <someDude> What is a good program that works like truecrypt for Linux? I'm looking for on-the-fly-encryption
[15:24] <mou> I love having amazon from normal installation thank you so much
[15:24] <mou> ubuntu really helps linux developpement
[15:24] <Daffy> I feel like this is probably a kernel issue.
[15:24] <k1l_> someDude: erm, truecrypt?
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[12:54] * balloons_ floats in
[13:05] * flocculant has a drawing pin
[13:16] <balloons_> ohh boy
[13:21] <flocculant> :)
[14:03] <davmor2> balloons: ah don't worry he's only short and can't reach you up there, unless he has a cane and blutac
[14:05] <flocculant> I have a good old fashioned bow of yew, a blunt arrow, blutac and a drawing pin :p
[14:05] <davmor2> equally sufficient
[14:06] <flocculant> :)
[14:07] <flocculant> depends perhaps on whether balloons is helium or just hot air :)
[14:19] <balloons> mm.. quite true. It might not be a refreshing pop, but rather a slow leak
[14:20] <balloons> hiss and a fall to the floor
[14:27] <flocculant> :)
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"davmor2",
"flocculant"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-quality"
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-uos-plenary
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[16:53] <Pici> .
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}
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-cn
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[01:35] <RivDo> 早
[02:09] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 亲吻 : 一男一女在公园里谈恋爱,突然那个女的站起来,用食指勾走男的的下巴,低下头去,摆出电影中经常出现的经典造型,那个男的心如擂鼓,脸红耳热,不自觉把眼睛闭起来了。女的毫不犹豫,一口…………"呸",吐了男的一脸口水 。
[02:10] <FranX> 大家对文件索引有研究吗
[02:15] <^k^> onlylove__: 拜
[02:16] <onlylove__> ^k^: 拜-
[02:38] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[02:39] <onlylove> 杯具啊！我们公司有个职工姓 Null，当用他的姓氏做查询词时，把所有员工查询应用给弄崩溃了！ 我该肿么办？
[02:40] <onlylove> 这才叫段子，^k^那种算啥
[02:41] <wbchn> SQL注入，nb
[02:47] <gfxmode_> SQL里WHERE NAME='NULL'会崩？
[02:48] <onlylove> 段子啊……
[02:50] <onlylove> 我记得还有个开发微信的，然后貌似被测试用户那天蛋疼的改名叫null，结果程序以为返回值不对
[02:52] <yunfan> onlylove: 对的 后来被同事暴揍
[02:52] <yunfan> onlylove: 其实叫 (null)效果好点
[02:52] <gfxmode_> 那个用户挺牛逼的
[03:05] <journeyZC> hi
[03:05] <ubrl> journeyZC:点点点. 11:02
[03:05] <journeyZC> 你們好
[03:06] <journeyZC> ?????
[03:10] <^k^> hceasy: 拜哭熊
[03:17] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 求助，双系统下恢复windows8.1后，ubuntu没有启动选项，试图恢复引导出现问题!!! http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473630 基本情况如题，详细情况说明一下； 系统是ubuntu15.04（一直有更新，大概是15.10）； win8.1恢复到系统出厂版本（即买电脑时的随机版备份），当
[03:17] <^k^> ─> 时是装ubuntu之前； 在网上找了攻略，按照攻略，使用u盘（装的14.05）镜像，进入ubuntu试 …
[03:20] <FranX> 你好啊
[03:23] <onlylove> imtxc: ping？
[03:33] <longlongago> happyaron: hi
[03:43] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • debian的package 相当于ubuntu的软件库吧 这个和mirror有关系吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473632 首先，Ubuntu kylin 有个软件库 里面有ubuntu kylin商店什么的。那个是由mirror决定的吗？ 其次，diban的这个package（会对软件进行分类科学，图形，系统等等），
[03:48] <longlongago> happyaron: onlylove___ 帮我看下，为啥3700v4刷了openwrt插u盘没反应，这是dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079836/
[03:56] <onlylove___> 没插好？USB disconnect, device number 4
[03:58] <longlongago> onlylove___: 就一个口怎么没插好。。。
[03:58] <longlongago> onlylove__ kmod: failed to insert /lib/modules/3.10.49/usb-storage.ko
[03:58] <longlongago>
[03:58] <longlongago> onlylove 需要insmod usb-storage /
[03:58] <longlongago> ？
[04:02] <Zesty_> http://www.twitch.tv/twitchinstallsarchlinux
[04:02] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Twitch
[04:25] <onlylove> longlongago: 没usbstorage支持，怎么驱动优盘，这种问题可以不要问么？
[04:43] <longlongago> codepage cp437 not found, 安装个啥解决
[04:48] <longlongago> onlylove ping
[04:48] <longlongago> happyaron: codepage cp437 not found, 需要重新编译内核？
[04:53] <yunfan> onlylove: tmux怎么重新绘制bar?
[04:53] <yunfan> 我的bar被一个windows里的输出给搞乱了
[04:58] <^k^> 新 常用硬件支持 • NVIDIA显卡，每次升级内核都要重装显卡驱动，如何破？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473633 机子有集显，还有一块NVIDIA显卡。 装好NVIDIA驱动后，可正常使用。 但每次只要一升级内核，显卡驱动就先切换到集显，重转NVIDIA显卡驱动，否则进不去系统。 各位
[04:58] <^k^> ─> ，如何破解这个问题？ zz: thorium — 2015-11-02 12:57
[05:08] <onlylove___> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46008
[05:08] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 紫光收购台湾力成股份，愿与联发科合并
[05:17] <onlylove___> 人MTK也得愿意和你合
[05:44] <onlylove__> happyaron: tp那个ap貌似有点坑，今天被抱怨说连不上，因为我设置的路由的ap可以连接6个，所以只连上了6个……
[05:46] <onlylove> happyaron: 我怀疑内置的ac并不好用
[05:48] <wbchn1> longlongago: kmod-nls-cp437
[05:49] <wbchn1> 挂usb看看 http://wiki.openwrt.org/zh-cn/doc/howto/usb.storage 比如fat32需要：opkg install kmod-usb-storage block-mount block-hotplug kmod-fs-ext4 kmod-fs-vfat kmod-nls-cp437 kmod-nls-iso8859-1， 是不是没安装全
[05:49] <ubrl> ⇪ f: USB存储 [OpenWrt Wiki]
[05:57] <journeyZC> hi
[05:57] <ubrl> journeyZC:点点点. 13:54
[05:57] <journeyZC> ...
[06:00] <journeyZC> 你們好
[06:00] <FranX> 好啊
[06:01] <FranX> 大家扫描互联网所有ip要多久
[06:01] <FranX> http://lcx.cc/
[06:01] <ubrl> FranX: ⇪ Nuclear'Atk 网络安全研究中心
[06:01] <journeyZC> 你們都是做網路安全的嗎？
[06:06] <journeyZC> whois ubrl
[06:10] * cherrot 每到周一倍思春
[06:11] <journeyZC> 額
[06:14] <journeyZC> 你們在幹嗎
[06:14] <journeyZC> 上班嗎
[06:17] <wbchn1> :) 上班ing...
[06:20] <journeyZC1> 哦哦哦
[06:20] <journeyZC1> 你們是用的什麼系統啊
[06:20] <journeyZC1> 這個頻道是長期有效嗎
[06:26] <journeyZC> 我先走了
[06:26] <journeyZC> 拜拜
[06:31] <onlylove__> 和TP的客服扯了半天他才明白我的意思，真TMD
[06:36] <yurakucho> http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1510.3/02866.html
[06:36] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: [GIT] Networking
[06:55] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • latex中文排版问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473635 pdflatex 不显示错误但是却输不出pdf.求指教 aaaaa@thinkpad:~/翻译$ pdflatex template.tex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.5-1.40.14 (TeX Live 2013/Debian) restricted \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./template.tex LaTe
[06:55] <^k^> ─> X2e <2011/06/27> Babel <3.9h> and hyphenation patterns for 78 languages loaded. (./cctbook.cls Document Class: cctboo …
[06:59] <^k^> nyfair: 拜老司机
[06:59] <nyfair> ^k^: 开车开车
[06:59] <yurakucho> nyfair: 嘀, 老人卡
[07:01] <onlylove> yurakucho: 你这么年轻就用上老人卡了？
[07:02] <yurakucho> nyfair: 嘀, 学生卡
[07:04] <onlylove___> 哪个傻孩子开的windows server的系统更新！
[07:05] <mao> u
[07:11] <yurakucho> Madper: momo
[07:11] <Madper> yurakucho: ... ...
[07:11] <Madper> yurakucho: 伐开心
[07:11] <yurakucho> Madper: 和我一样买包包啊
[07:11] <Madper> yurakucho: 等我先找个干爹
[07:12] <yurakucho> 昨天买了两个箱子一个包
[07:12] <yurakucho> Madper: http://jf.cmbchina.com/Product/A04-608-03M.htm 这个值不值?
[07:12] <ubrl> yurakucho: ⇪ 德国Stratic平流层ARROW系列硬壳四轮拉杆箱24寸(11月生日专享) - 招商银行信用卡领先积分计划
[07:12] <Madper> yurakucho: 不要钱的值
[07:13] <yurakucho> Madper: ... ... 淘宝卖挺贵的
[07:13] <lainme> yurakucho: 买
[07:14] <onlylove__> Madper: 你的i哪里去了
[07:15] <Madper> onlylove: 嗨, 我叫啥你都不应该奇怪了啊~
[07:15] <yurakucho> Madper: 我还想买这个 http://jf.cmbchina.com/Product/A04-00B-03N.htm
[07:15] <ubrl> yurakucho: ⇪ WMF CASA系列实用家庭锅具三件套(11月生日专享) - 招商银行信用卡领先积分计划
[07:15] <Madper> yurakucho: 不好用吧...
[07:16] <yurakucho> Madper: 这个大 不是张大妈推的那些
[07:16] <Madper> yurakucho: 但是, 平的不好用
[07:16] <yurakucho> 煎炒锅 内径:26cm 浅炖锅 内径:20cm 奶锅 内径:18cm
[07:16] <Madper> yurakucho: 中式大炒锅才行啊, 别的都不好用.
[07:16] <yurakucho> Madper: 配微波炉
[07:16] <Madper> yurakucho: 日式/欧式的炊具都不好的
[07:16] <Madper> yurakucho: ... ...
[07:17] <yurakucho> Madper: 但是好便宜啊!
[07:17] <whatyousaya> aria2下载异常怎么回事？
[07:17] <whatyousaya> Exception: [download_helper.cc:411] errorCode=1 Unrecognized URI or unsupported protocol:
[07:17] <whatyousaya> 下载magnet
[07:19] <onlylove__> 你这个firmware里面的aria有bt支持么？
[07:19] <whatyousaya> onlylove__: 不清楚呀
[07:19] <whatyousaya> onlylove__: 14.07版的
[07:20] <onlylove__> whatyousaya: 不支持的话当然下不了
[07:20] <onlylove__> whatyousaya: 和版本没关系，要看构建的时候有没有选上哪个
[07:20] <whatyousaya> onlylove__: 编译时干掉了magnet
[07:21] <whatyousaya> onlylove__: 现在怎么办？重新编译遍？
[07:23] <imtxc> yurakucho: 有啥安卓 ios 之间无损传照片的方式么
[07:23] <imtxc> onlylove: 见到色大象了么
[07:23] <yurakucho> imtxc: dropbox?
[07:23] <Madper> imtxc: 妳大爷
[07:24] <imtxc> Madper: ...
[07:24] <whatyousaya> onlylove x86上编译个mips的软件？ 麻烦不
[07:24] <imtxc> Madper: 你马甲呢
[07:24] <imtxc> dropbox 慢啊
[07:24] <imtxc> yurakucho: 同一个 wifi 下通过局域网传的
[07:24] <Madper> imtxc: 你最好呢, 打个包压缩一下
[07:24] <whatyousaya> imtxc: 开ftp
[07:24] <yurakucho> imtxc: 母鸡
[07:24] <Madper> imtxc: 好过你一个个传
[07:25] <imtxc> whatyousaya: ios 有 ftp 客户端？
[07:25] <netsnail> 为毛用BTRFS做ROOT一定要有INITRAMFS啊
[07:26] <onlylove> imtxc: 我就是问问，你那4300，无线区域设置哪里，听说国内标准比美帝的标准严苛，所以区域改美帝会有很大信号改善
[07:26] <yurakucho> netsnail: 不是必须啊
[07:26] <yurakucho> 是一定要有/boot分区吧
[07:27] <onlylove> 我知道的是，lvm一定要有boot
[07:27] <onlylove> 而且关机的时候debian会报一个错，貌似帽帽不会
[07:28] <netsnail> yurakucho: arch就是不行，快晕了，初始化不了root盘
[07:28] <yurakucho> netsnail: arch的内核默认btrfs可能是module而不是built-in
[07:28] <yurakucho> netsnail: 你可以自己编译
[07:28] <yurakucho> netsnail: 话说, initramfs很好啊, 为什么不用...
[07:28] <netsnail> yurakucho: 自己编译的，不行：（
[07:29] <Madper> netsnail: 你不用initramfs?
[07:29] <yurakucho> netsnail: 那就是你config没弄好 =,=
[07:29] <Madper> netsnail: 我就是archlinux + btrfs啊.
[07:29] <Madper> netsnail: 你改没改你的mkinitcpio.conf?
[07:29] <netsnail> Madper: 我的是SUBDIR
[07:30] <Madper> netsnail: 啥?
[07:30] <netsnail> 总之没弄好
[07:30] <imtxc> onlylove: /etc/config/wireless
[07:30] <netsnail> 是btrfs的subvol
[07:30] <Madper> netsnail: 你弄个initramfs不就好了? 反正默认就有initramfs, 又不会麻烦.
[07:31] <netsnail> Madper: subvol做root
[07:31] <netsnail> 下了一个initramfs-btrfs也不行
[07:31] <Madper> netsnail: 哦. 那是不行.
[07:33] <imtxc> onlylove: 如果是自带系统的话，我就说不清楚了
[07:33] <imtxc> cherrot: 萌萌哒兔子喵奴早
[07:33] <onlylove> imtxc: 不是这，我是说，你不是嫌信号不好么
[07:33] <Madper> cherrot: 萌萌哒兔子喵奴早
[07:34] <imtxc> onlylove: 我能嫌信号不好么
[07:34] <imtxc> onlylove: 我住的地方，总共面积也就 15m^2
[07:34] * Madper 感觉各种非原生的firmware都不好用. 还是原生的好.
[07:34] <cherrot> Madper, imtxc 哦哈哟喵喵哒
[07:35] <onlylove> imtxc: 你和我抱怨过4300信号不好的，我不翻log了
[07:35] <onlylove> cherrot: 喵喵哒早
[07:36] <imtxc> onlylove: 额，不会吧
[07:36] <imtxc> onlylove: 哦，想起来了
[07:36] <imtxc> onlylove: 是家里的一个 netgear， 但是那不是 4300
[07:37] <onlylove> imtxc: 难道是3700？还是JR？
[07:37] <imtxc> cherrot: 喵的女仆还没找你来么
[07:37] <imtxc> onlylove: 是很差的，但是 89 买的
[07:37] <imtxc> onlylove: 应该不是什么好货
[07:37] <onlylove> imtxc: 89……
[07:38] <imtxc> onlylove: 对啊，还送一个 APC 插排
[07:38] <imtxc> onlylove: 后来我看了看， 80 应该是那个插排的价格
[07:38] <imtxc> onlylove: 5 块是运费
[07:39] <onlylove_> imtxc: 所以路由4块？
[07:39] <cherrot> imtxc, 我也在焦急等待呢
[07:39] <imtxc> cherrot: 打印照片贴小区门口啊
[07:39] * yurakucho 也想养猫
[07:39] * Madper ea6400赛高啊!
[07:40] <cherrot> imtxc, 不要 被冒领肿么办
[07:40] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 那什么，男不养猫女不养狗什么的
[07:41] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 那是句屁话
[07:41] <imtxc> cherrot: 晕
[07:41] <onlylove___> cherrot: 你家喵还有女仆？
[07:41] <imtxc> cherrot: 你管她冒领。。。。
[07:41] <Madper> cherrot: 妹子是真妹子就行了.
[07:41] <Madper> cherrot: 胸是真胸就行了.
[07:41] <imtxc> cherrot: 看起来你是真心为了还喵啊...
[07:42] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 不，我前几天刚被刷的三观，至少女不养狗还是有那么点道理
[07:42] <cherrot> imtxc, 2333
[07:42] <cherrot> Madper, 万一被个男的冒领呢。。
[07:42] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 母狗呢? 太监狗呢? 鬼道理...
[07:42] <Madper> cherrot: 照样上啊, 你在乎性别嘛?
[07:43] <imtxc> cherrot: 如果那个男的你不喜欢，你就让他出示证据啊
[07:43] <onlylove___> cherrot: 萌萌哒你的喵是捡到的啊？
[07:43] <Madper> imtxc: 证明他其实并不是男的?
[07:44] <imtxc> Madper: 证明他有办法让 cherrot 喜欢
[07:44] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 废话扯完了，然后你不是要买屋子么，买了屋子以后去领养一只喵就是
[07:44] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 是这么计划的
[07:44] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 不过养喵是辛苦活
[07:45] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 比养狗轻松多了
[07:45] <Madper> yurakucho: http://faxian.smzdm.com/p/516553 这个箱子比较适合你这种商务人士, 比日默瓦实用多了.
[07:45] <ubrl> Madper: ⇪ TUMI 塔米Luggage Tegra-Lite Medium Trip 高端轻量系列 28寸旅行箱 $449.99 _美国亚马逊优惠_发现频道_什么值得买
[07:45] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 喵粮什么的，不能随便买
[07:45] <yurakucho> ...
[07:45] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 田园猫随便养
[07:45] * yurakucho 无法接受一身基因病的纯种猫狗
[07:46] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 田园喵也是喵，不能喂毒粮！
[07:46] <imtxc> yurakucho: 来一起团购
[07:46] <yurakucho> imtxc: 团购什么/
[07:46] <imtxc> yurakucho: 猫啊
[07:46] <yurakucho> o
[07:47] <onlylove___> 团购猫……
[07:47] <onlylove___> imtxc: 你也要买屋子了？
[07:47] <imtxc> onlylove___: 租房也是人啊
[07:47] <onlylove___> imtxc: 房东准吗？回家咋办？
[07:48] <cherrot> onlylove___ 是呀 门口捡的
[07:48] <imtxc> onlylove___: 买个自动喂的机器
[07:48] <onlylove___> cherrot: 不知道是不是被丢弃的
[07:48] <imtxc> onlylove___: 房东不样养狗
[07:49] <onlylove___> imtxc: 过两天喵也就不让养了
[07:51] <cherrot> onlylove___, 很有可能 不然怎么会跑出来
[08:01] <onlylove> happyaron: 貌似知道为啥了，那个吸顶的ap，然后我调好以后扔桌上，和他说，有时间挂屋顶上，他没给挂屋顶上
[08:05] <nipsing> hi
[08:05] <ubrl> nipsing:点点点. 16:03
[08:10] <^k^> tryit: 拜
[08:15] <nipsing> any one fucking here?
[08:16] <nipsing> oh
[08:17] <iMadper> nipsing: So?
[08:17] <nipsing> feel bad
[08:17] <FranX> nipsing: hi
[08:17] <onlylove__> iMadper|Sleeping: good job
[08:18] <nipsing> oh hi
[08:18] <FranX> nipsing: who are you
[08:18] <nipsing> FranX, hi
[08:18] <nipsing> i am nipsing
[08:19] <FranX> how long sine you use the irc
[08:19] <nipsing> not long
[08:19] <FranX> nipsing: which IRC client do u use
[08:20] <nipsing> hexchat
[08:20] <nipsing> what's wrong bro
[08:23] <FranX> nothing
[08:23] <nipsing> what you use?
[08:23] <FranX> weechat & irssi
[08:23] <nipsing> great
[08:24] <FranX> & limechat
[08:24] <FranX> & Textual5
[08:25] <FranX> mainly weechat
[08:25] <gebjgd> nipsing, 本站主数据：江苏省徐州市 电信
[08:25] <gebjgd> 参考数据一：江苏苏州 电信
[08:25] <nipsing> oh
[08:25] <gebjgd> nipsing, 大尾巴狼
[08:25] <nipsing> 什麼意思?
[08:26] <nipsing> gebjgd, ?
[08:26] <gebjgd> nipsing, 大尾巴狼的典故不知道？
[08:27] <yurakucho> gebjgd: 是因为别人也没跟他讲中文
[08:27] <yurakucho> gebjgd: 淡定
[08:27] <nyfair> stop your fucking english trolling
[08:27] <nipsing> 沒聽過,特討教...
[08:27] <yurakucho> nyfair: 牛牛, 包养我!
[08:27] <gebjgd> nipsing, https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCsQFjABahUKEwjOxe3XqPHIAhXJPxoKHRgXBfk&url=http%3A%2F%2Fzhidao.baidu.com%2Fquestion%2F2781568.html&usg=AFQjCNHMnmHVWqPCghef7Z-gz_BidIByXg&bvm=bv.106379543,d.ZWU
[08:27] <ubrl> ⇪ f: execution expired
[08:27] <gebjgd> nyfair, 妞妞 交配我
[08:28] <nipsing> 什麼亂七八糟的
[08:28] <nyfair> gebjgd: にまび
[08:29] <nipsing> 我去
[08:29] <nipsing> 刁近平
[08:30] <onlylove__> nyfair: 看了半天看懂了，好顶赞
[08:30] <FranX> nyfair: すごい
[08:30] <FranX> nyfair: にほんごができる？
[08:30] <gfxmode_> nyfair: 赞
[08:31] <gebjgd> 还好我就会五十阴道图
[08:31] <FranX> nyfair: にまび が おもしすぎだ
[08:31] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 那也该明白啥意思了
[08:32] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 没关系 继续求和她交配
[08:32] <nipsing> 不明覺厲 .....
[08:32] <FranX> nyfair: にまび ということが
[08:32] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 自带脏话免疫系统
[08:32] <FranX> にまび と いう ことが NMB です
[08:32] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 你个破网络
[08:33] <onlylove__> gebjgd: 你带我去德意志吧，那样你就不会吐槽我的网络了
[08:33] <nipsing> 我曰
[08:33] <gebjgd> onlylove__, 没法带啊
[08:34] <FranX> 有谁同时会德语，法语，日语，西班牙语，拉丁语？
[08:34] <FranX> 我只会日语，英语，法语，德语
[08:34] <nyfair> FranX: 你这也叫会日语？
[08:35] <FranX> はは
[08:35] <gebjgd> FranX, 还会德语？
[08:35] <FranX> nyfair: しょうしょうに
[08:35] <gebjgd> FranX, 人柴
[08:35] <nyfair> FranX: 滚，找你はは去
[08:35] <nipsing> guten tag
[08:36] <gebjgd> nipsing, 你也是人柴
[08:36] <nipsing> mein name is nipsing
[08:36] <onlylove__> FranX: 莫装 nyfair在日企工作多年，日语比日本人还溜
[08:36] <FranX> 是吧
[08:36] <nyfair> onlylove_: 别黑我，我什么时候进过日企了
[08:36] <FranX> 我只是五年前过了日语一级
[08:36] <FranX> 现在可能都忘了。。。
[08:37] <FranX> 我看了三个月日语，就过了一级。。。
[08:37] <FranX> 法语德语看了几个星期吧
[08:37] <gebjgd> FranX, 过级没用
[08:37] <onlylove_> nyfair: 你信不，3个月过1级
[08:38] <gebjgd> FranX, 你来趟欧洲 餐馆大叔一级不级 轻松和你说10国语言
[08:38] <nyfair> onlylove_: 我信啊，你看我没学过，但是我明天就能去考1级
[08:38] <nipsing> 你們都弱爆了
[08:39] <nyfair> onlylove_: 但是这家伙说出来的日语，能过4级都不信
[08:39] <onlylove_> nyfair: 表示我也不信
[08:39] <onlylove_> nyfair: 虽然我四级都过不了
[08:40] <nipsing> 其實會英語一門外語 學精了都不得了
[08:41] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 请问如何将自己写的脚本添加到“open with other application”？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473639 我写了一个很简单的脚本： #!/bin/bash pdfcrop --margin 5 $1 ${1%'.pdf'}_new.pdf 从终端里可以使用这个脚本，$1是输入的文件。但是我的想法是，直接从图形界面使用这
[08:41] <^k^> ─> 个脚本作用于某个文件，就像鼠标双击直接用wps打开.doc文档一样。我点鼠标右键，open w …
[08:41] <nipsing> 你們誰能用英語通讀 資本論?
[08:41] <onlylove_> 其实我觉得资本论应该读俄语或者德语的
[08:41] <nipsing> 原文是德語
[08:42] <nipsing> 但誰能用英語通讀
[08:42] <onlylove_> 很多东西，翻译了以后不是那个味
[08:42] <nipsing> 英語翻譯很好了
[08:42] <nipsing> ,但翻譯成中文就走味了
[08:43] <nipsing> 變成了特色
[08:43] <nipsing> 都散熊了
[08:43] <gebjgd> nipsing, 外语帝
[08:44] <yurakucho> http://www.zhihu.com/question/30343152
[08:44] <ubrl> yurakucho: ⇪ 我在公司用火狐浏览器，突然全屏出现个裸女，是否可以向火狐索赔？ - 火狐浏览器（Firefox） - 知乎
[08:44] <nipsing> 可以,但你沒錢打官司
[08:45] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 赔，让mozilla赔个底朝天
[08:45] <nipsing> 話說中國開放二孩,不知真假
[08:46] <onlylove___> 你养得起？
[08:46] <nipsing> 我沒結過婚,抱歉
[08:46] <onlylove___> 有房否？
[08:46] <nipsing> 有
[08:46] <nipsing> 小房一套
[08:46] <onlylove___> 为何不结婚
[08:47] <nipsing> 因爲 自己過,是一種信仰
[08:47] <nipsing> 也是一種逼格
[08:47] <onlylove___> 你既然都自己过了，还研究二孩，咸吃萝卜？
[08:47] <nyfair> http://h.nimingban.com/f/%E4%B9%B0%E4%B9%B0%E4%B9%B0
[08:47] <ubrl> nyfair: ⇪ 买买买 - A岛-AC匿名版
[08:48] <nipsing> 只是爲未來的中國人口素質擔憂
[08:48] <onlylove___> 这更不是你需要考虑的问题了
[08:48] <nyfair> nipsing: 你又没后代，关心个JB
[08:48] * yurakucho 喜闻乐见
[08:49] <nipsing> 哈哈哈哈,只是瞎扯淡而已
[08:49] <gebjgd> nipsing, 地命海心
[08:49] <nipsing> 什麼意思
[08:49] * tryit 京东图书200-100的活动都没货…………
[08:49] <iMadper|Sleeping> tryit: 是的.
[08:50] * nyfair 没有什么事情是一集点兔解决不了的
[08:50] <onlylove___> 你们懒到书都去黑东买了？
[08:50] * yurakucho 我有很多京东券, 可以帮忙代购
[08:50] <linfaimom> 我也想趁着双11买点书哈哈
[08:51] <nipsing> 買書又不看,你說賤不賤
[08:51] <nipsing> 我就是這樣的賤骨頭
[08:51] <linfaimom> 666
[08:52] * tryit 现在大馒头又1300了……
[08:52] <tryit> iMadper|Sleeping .
[08:52] <nipsing> 支持廣電倒閉
[08:53] <yurakucho> tryit: 高管 那是什么东西?
[08:53] <nipsing> 支持電視盒子
[08:53] <iMadper|Sleeping> nipsing: 广电倒闭你去哪儿看电影?
[08:53] <nipsing> 上網
[08:53] <tryit> yurakucho, 您等领导看不上的哦小耳机
[08:53] <iMadper|Sleeping> nipsing: 广电都倒了, 你觉得电信联通还会活着给你提供网络?
[08:53] <yurakucho> tryit: 我最贵的耳机是99买的
[08:53] <nipsing> 會
[08:54] <iMadper|Sleeping> nipsing: 党国是一体的.
[08:54] <nipsing> oh
[08:54] <nipsing> (⊙o⊙)哦
[08:54] <tryit> yurakucho, 地球上最贵的币种吧
[08:55] <yurakucho> tryit: 人民币
[08:55] <nipsing> 支持倒閉
[08:55] <tryit> yurakucho, 您不好这口～
[08:55] <yurakucho> tryit: 好, 买不起
[08:55] <yurakucho> tryit: 好, 但是买不起
[08:55] <nipsing> 我快失業了
[08:55] <yurakucho> 我也快失业了
[08:56] <nipsing> 咋辦
[08:56] <nipsing> 這個月就開400大洋
[08:56] <FranX> 我今天一天就赚了几万块。。。
[08:56] <nipsing> how?
[08:56] <FranX> 做外汇。。。
[08:57] <FranX> 上班没事做，就做外汇了
[08:57] <nipsing> 艹
[08:57] <nipsing> 你牛逼
[08:57] <FranX> 等公司在纳斯达克上市
[08:57] <FranX> 手上有十几万的齐全呢
[08:57] <FranX> 齐全
[08:57] <FranX> 期权
[08:57] <yurakucho> nipsing: 莫说脏话
[08:57] <yurakucho> FranX: 美刀?
[08:57] <nipsing> 沒啊
[08:58] <FranX> 不知道呢
[08:58] <FranX> 预计在20$
[08:58] <nipsing> 草字頭也算罵人?
[08:58] <FranX> 毕竟阿里巴巴当年是80$
[08:58] <FranX> 开盘直接到了120$
[08:58] <yurakucho> FranX: 差价十几万还是行权价十几万 人民币还是美元?
[08:58] <FranX> 我估计我们是20￥
[08:58] <FranX> 20$
[08:58] <yurakucho> FranX: 有禁售期
[08:58] <yurakucho> FranX: 什么公司?
[08:59] <nipsing> 噼裏啪啦公司?
[08:59] <FranX> 就上海一家公司
[09:00] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • ubuntu14.04无线网卡驱动问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473640 我通过命令查看我的无线网卡型号是bcm43142,但是好像没有这个型号的驱动，该怎么办啊，校园网有线连不上，只能指望无线啊 zz: wjshd — 2015-11-02 16:40
[09:00] <nipsing> 真是飛上枝頭賽鳳凰
[09:00] <yurakucho> FranX: 听上去很熟悉
[09:00] <onlylove___> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46015
[09:00] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 国产干线客机C919下线
[09:01] <onlylove___> 居然下线了，我以为还要等个若干年
[09:01] <yurakucho> onlylove___: 这个还是很厉害的, 支持
[09:01] <nipsing> 都說中國牛逼,民不聊生,果然名不虛傳
[09:01] <FranX> 除了壳子，都是进口的
[09:01] <onlylove___> yurakucho: 所以以后就A（a320）B(747)C(919)？
[09:01] <nipsing> 擦
[09:02] <nipsing> yurakucho, 仁兄這個月開幾個錢?
[09:03] <onlylove___> 他一秒钟20W上下，你不用替他操心
[09:03] <yurakucho> nipsing: 这个不好说
[09:03] <nipsing> wow 都是牛逼人物
[09:03] <FranX> 都是不缺钱的主
[09:03] <FranX> 哈哈
[09:03] <yurakucho> FranX: 能组装就很不错了, 也不都是进口
[09:03] <yurakucho> FranX: 小窗问你了个事儿呢
[09:04] <yurakucho> nipsing: 别听他说
[09:04] <yurakucho> nipsing: 别听他扯
[09:04] <nipsing> 弟們我 10月份 開了400 大洋
[09:05] <onlylove___> EUR？
[09:05] <nipsing> reb
[09:05] <yurakucho> nipsing: 一个大洋能卖一百人民币呢
[09:05] <nipsing> rmb
[09:05] <nipsing> 400 rmb
[09:05] <onlylove___> 一个月400RMB的人会来这边吹水？
[09:05] <nipsing> -_-!!!
[09:05] <nipsing> 是的
[09:06] <onlylove___> 还不赶紧想下一顿去哪吃？
[09:06] <FranX> 一分钟400RMB？
[09:06] <nipsing> 一個月
[09:06] <nipsing> 信不
[09:06] <FranX> 2个月300万可以赚20亿信不信
[09:07] <nipsing> 不信
[09:07] <onlylove___> 我信，在家待业，救济金
[09:07] <FranX> 伊世顿公司
[09:07] <FranX> http://www.cb.com.cn/finance/2015_1102/1152242.html
[09:07] <ubrl> FranX: ⇪ 取标题 403 Forbidden
[09:08] <FranX> 注册资金300万RMB
[09:08] <FranX> 其实资金300W
[09:08] <FranX> 2个月20亿
[09:08] <nipsing> 你有後臺
[09:08] <nipsing> 肯定的
[09:08] <FranX> 31个账户
[09:08] <FranX> 0.03秒交易一次
[09:09] <nipsing> 牛啊
[09:09] <yurakucho> https://github.com/art-dot-git/80x40
[09:09] <ubrl> ⇪ f: art-dot-git/80x40 · GitHub
[09:09] <nipsing> 我弟弟在清華學的金融
[09:09] <nipsing> 今年提前畢業
[09:10] <FranX> 去华尔街
[09:10] <nipsing> 請他說,北京一個戶口要70萬
[09:10] <nipsing> 聽
[09:10] <FranX> 那不算贵
[09:10] <FranX> 挺便宜的了
[09:10] <onlylove_> 70万，好便宜
[09:11] <nipsing> 知識一個戶口
[09:11] <nipsing> 只是
[09:11] <nipsing> 哎
[09:12] <nipsing> 華爾街,你認爲清華生能到華爾街?
[09:12] <nipsing> 混?
[09:14] <nipsing> 我是二逼青年,我歡樂多,哈哈哈哈
[09:15] <gebjgd> nipsing, 去帝都帮助帝都人民吸尘都要70w了
[09:15] <gebjgd> nipsing, 赞
[09:16] <gfxmode_> 看你们这些壕聊天，我搬砖更有力气了
[09:16] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 不用70W，每天大批旅行团帮忙吸
[09:17] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 真是辛苦了
[09:18] <gebjgd> 希望12月10日之后空气好点 我就不用戴口罩了
[09:18] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 不现实
[09:20] <nipsing> 大哥提小第一把,給口飯吃?
[09:20] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 帝都就那种气候……不对，你这是要来参观？
[09:20] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 友好访问
[09:21] <onlylove__> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46016
[09:21] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 中国透露超级对撞机计划
[09:21] <onlylove__> 大飞机无话可说，不知道这对撞机怎么说
[09:22] <nipsing> 毀滅地球計劃吧?
[09:24] <hceasy> 你们都在聊什么.
[09:27] <gebjgd> hceasy, 屌丝闲聊
[09:27] <onlylove_> hceasy: 聊妹子
[09:27] <gebjgd> hceasy, 人生赢家好
[09:28] <hceasy> gebjgd: 有么有什么经济方面的书籍推荐下.
[09:28] <gebjgd> hceasy, 经济方面的书？
[09:28] <hceasy> gebjgd: 恩. 之前看了一个视频. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzQwNjY4Nzg4.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2&qq-pf-to=pcqq.group
[09:28] <ubrl> hceasy: ⇪ 经济机器是怎样运行的 (时长30分钟) Ray Dalio—在线播放—优酷网，视频高清在线观看
[09:28] <gebjgd> hceasy, 经学学家
[09:28] <gebjgd> hceasy, 经济学家
[09:28] <hceasy> gebjgd: 感觉浅显易懂 然后最近需要了解下 游泳.
[09:29] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 貌似研究经济学的都是有钱人
[09:29] <hceasy> gebjgd: 有用 .
[09:29] <hceasy> onlylove_: ... 瞅瞅而已.
[09:29] <hceasy> onlylove_: 只是好奇.
[09:29] <hceasy> onlylove 我工资还没过10k呢.
[09:30] <UniFreak> 如果现在有两个工作机会, 乐视是13k*13薪, 但是工作内容更偏向前段, 另一家不知名的12k*14薪,但是工作内容流程环境等更合自己心意, 你会选哪个呢?
[09:31] <gebjgd> onlylove_, 必须有钱
[09:31] <gebjgd> hceasy, 你看我读的书都是 如何正确的搬砖
[09:31] <gebjgd> hceasy, 《健康搬砖法》
[09:31] <onlylove_> gebjgd: 还有如何高效的搬砖
[09:31] <hceasy> ge
[09:32] <hceasy> gebjgd: 往后我要看怎么保护脊椎什么的...
[09:32] <gebjgd> hceasy, 你这样的高富帅把我们这些屌丝甩的太远了
[09:32] <hceasy> UniFreak: ... 前端么. 如果是我我去前端...
[09:33] <onlylove_> 你就差这1K钱么……上班，最重要的是，同事好相处不，工作爽不爽
[09:33] <UniFreak> hceasy: 加入你希望的工作是 PHP
[09:33] <hceasy> gebjgd: ...... 我现在倒欠银行钱.
[09:33] <UniFreak> onlylove: 但这些在入职之前都是不可知的啊
[09:33] <UniFreak> 所以也没法作为一个标准去衡量是否入职
[09:34] <onlylove_> 像我现在这种状态，分分钟想离职
[09:34] <hceasy> UniFreak: 那我去干我希望的啊.. 乐视那个是前端 我本来就是前端.
[09:34] <onlylove_> UniFreak: 所以去符合你心意的看看
[09:34] <gebjgd> hceasy, 这就对了 有钱的都是欠银行钱 没钱的 银行欠他钱
[09:35] <hceasy> UniFreak: 那样更好说了啊 飞机失事最先仍什么科学家 ? 当然是胖子了.
[09:35] <onlylove_> hceasy: 看，被 gebjgd 绕坑里了吧，认了吧，土豪
[09:35] <hceasy> UniFreak: 去钱多发发展好的那家 也就是乐事.
[09:35] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu衍生版制作 • 蓝海LINUX社区f1-unity桌面环境稳定版 发布 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473641 蓝海LINUX社区 f1-unity桌面环境稳定版以ubuntu 1510为基础按需重新定制 力求高度的稳定性 兼容性和流畅的应用体验 适合做软件开发平台的基础环境 也适合做各种商用及办公环境的
[09:35] <^k^> ─> 基础平台 发布代号：F1 发布时期：2015年10月29日 1 使用unity桌面环境 4.2.0-17稳定内核 32BI …
[09:35] <nipsing> 你說400塊錢能幹什麼?
[09:36] <UniFreak> hceasy: 哦? 可是我想做 PHP 啊.
[09:36] <UniFreak> 我要是你就完美了
[09:36] <hceasy> UniFreak: 这社会不是你想干什么就干什么的吧 .... 都是缺什么你干什么.
[09:37] <hceasy> UniFreak: 你可以私下接活做php 没人反对.
[09:37] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu衍生版制作 • 蓝海LINUX社区 F2-gnome-session-flashback桌面环境稳定版 发布 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473642 蓝海LINUX社区 F2-gnome-session-flashback桌面环境稳定版以ubuntu 1510为基础按需重新定制 力求高度的稳定性 兼容性和流畅的应用体验 适合做软件开发平台的基础环境 也适
[09:37] <^k^> ─> 合做各种商用及办公环境的基础平台 发布代号：F2 发布时期：2015年10月29日 1 使用gnome-s …
[09:37] <UniFreak> hceasy: 其实钱的话, 12*14 和 13*13 都差不了多少
[09:38] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu衍生版制作 • 蓝海LINUX社区 F4-plasma5桌面环境 自由人版 发布 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473644 蓝海LINUX社区 F4-plasma5 桌面环境稳定版以ubuntu 1504为基础按需重新定制 力求高度的稳定性 兼容性和流畅的应用体验 适合做软件开发平台的基础环境 也适合做各种商用及办公
[09:39] <UniFreak> ^k
[09:39] <UniFreak> ^k^ 是个机器人吧?
[09:47] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • 解决flash问题（针对不同网站）【收集帖】 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473645 起手式：火狐的自带的flash版本很低，从我目前的使用情况来看，并不适合用来看除了B站之外的所有包含flash内容的网站，chrome大法好。 1.B站：火狐只是基本可用。chrome配上bilibil
[09:48] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • 解决flash问题（针对不同网站）【收集帖】 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473646 起手式：火狐的自带的flash版本很低，从我目前的使用情况来看，并不适合用来看除了B站之外的所有包含flash内容的网站，chrome大法好。 1.B站：火狐只是基本可用。chrome配上bilibil
[09:49] <hceasy> un
[09:50] <hceasy> UniFreak: 小的公司和大公司的发展前景呢..
[09:50] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • 解决flash问题（针对不同网站）【收集帖】 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473648 起手式：火狐的自带的flash版本很低，从我目前的使用情况来看，并不适合用来看除了B站之外的所有包含flash内容的网站，chrome大法好。 1.B站：火狐只是基本可用。chrome配上bilibil
[09:51] <onlylove_> hceasy: 你先去吧这个重复发帖的砍了去
[09:51] <cherrot> 砍了
[09:53] <UniFreak> hceasy: 不得而知
[09:54] <UniFreak> 现在的纠结点就在于, 是想给自己镀金, 还是让自己得技术成长
[09:54] <hceasy> onlylove_: 好了.
[09:55] <hceasy> UniFreak: 技术成长跟镀金不冲突吧.. 你进去一直呆着什么都不学 去哪儿都一样吧.
[09:55] <nyfair> 别傻了，*14很容易因为各种原因而蒸发，合同永远认准*12
[09:58] <nyfair> 什么叫技术成长？
[09:58] * nyfair 上班从不写代码
[10:24] <yunfan> 买了个香港的vps 速度很不错
[10:24] <yunfan> ping才 30多
[10:25] <lainme> yunfan: hostus?
[10:44] <yunfan> lainme: 不是 看ip貌似是reseller
[10:44] <yunfan> 有个朋友说我那个ip背后应该是安畅 只不过卖给我的是reseller
[11:19] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • mcu8051ide安装失败，跪求单片机搭建环境 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473649 我在http://sourceforge.net/projects/mcu8051ide/上下载了mcu8051ide 1.4.9, 由于是deb文件，我是ubuntu 14.04的系统，使用了软件中心打开信息界面。 在选择忽略软件质量继续安装后
[11:19] <longlongago> happyaron: atheros ar9344是mips还是mipsel /
[11:19] <longlongago> ?
[12:38] <iiious> 有人用ubuntu gnome遇到15.10动画卡顿的么
[12:41] <iiious> gnome 3.16
[13:19] <rothsdad_> hi
[13:19] <ubrl> rothsdad_:点点点. 21:16
[13:19] <sarawara> Is there anyone who can help me with a keyboard problem ? (wo bu hui shuo zhong wen)
[13:23] <iiious> sarawara: your problem?
[13:23] <sarawara> something is wrong with the text entry for pin yin I'm on 14.04 lts : for example when I type "shen me", I get "sang enme" (and the corresponding characters, so not those for "shen me", though [shenme] is to be seen near the "sang enme", might it be a faulty setting? (I had no trouble before)
[13:26] <iiious> sarawara: ibus-pinyin?
[13:28] <sarawara> I think so yes, but it's a while ago I installed it
[13:29] <iiious> sarawara: remove ibus-bopomofo from input source maybe help
[13:30] <iiious> sarawara: btw, try ibus-rime, apt-get install ibus-rime, I think you'll love it
[13:31] <sarawara> here you can see what happens
[13:31] <sarawara> http://imagebin.ca/v/2LAdwK28qaeb
[13:31] <ubrl> sarawara: ⇪ Imagebin - Somewhere to Store Random Things
[13:32] <sarawara> I don't know what that means to remove ibos-bopomofo?
[13:32] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 竟然是图片 http://i0.xiaohua.fd.zol-img.com.cn/t_s600x5000/g3/M02/0B/0F/Cg-4WFJWHpSITdQ8AAFtFkXNB1wAAMY5gMK2lgAAW0u060.jpg 分享图片
[13:35] <iiious> sarawara: try this command: ibus-daemon -drx
[13:35] <iiious> sarawara: is it works?
[13:38] <sarawara> no it doesn't
[13:39] <gebjgd> iiious, 用什么gnome
[13:40] <iiious> sarawara: can I get screenshot your ibus settings window?
[13:40] <sarawara> of course
[13:41] <iiious> gebjgd: unity 用腻了233
[13:41] <gebjgd> iiious, unity就没法用 gnome也是渣
[13:42] <iiious> gebjgd: = =|| 那用啥
[13:42] <gebjgd> iiious, lxde xfce
[13:42] <gebjgd> iiious, cinnamon都比gnome强啊
[13:43] <iiious> gebjgd: 主要挑好看的233
[13:43] <gebjgd> iiious, 好看去用enlightment
[13:45] <sarawara> iiious http://imagebin.ca/v/2LAhs11vkTDq
[13:45] <ubrl> sarawara: ⇪ Imagebin - Somewhere to Store Random Things
[13:46] <iiious> gebjgd: 看起来不如 budgie
[13:47] <iiious> sarawara: the Pinyin mode tab please :)
[13:48] <gebjgd> iiious, budgie是什么玩意？
[13:49] <iiious> https://solus-project.com/
[13:49] <ubrl> iiious: ⇪ Solus Project
[13:49] <iiious> gebjgd: 有点仿chrome OS的意思
[13:50] <gebjgd> iiious, 很一般
[13:50] <sarawara> iiious http://imagebin.ca/v/2LAjYv9lItuZ
[13:50] <ubrl> sarawara: ⇪ Imagebin - Somewhere to Store Random Things
[13:50] <gebjgd> iiious, chrome os有太多的fork了 没有几个稳定的
[13:51] <iiious> gebjgd: 这个不是chrome OS
[13:51] <gebjgd> iiious, chrome os有太多的模仿了
[13:51] <iiious> gebjgd: 找了一圈还是arch文档全
[13:51] <gebjgd> iiious, 没有稳定的
[13:51] <gebjgd> iiious, arch那野鸡发行版
[13:52] <iiious> sarawara: try 'sudo apt-get install ibus-rime'
[13:53] <iiious> sarawara: and remove pinyin in text entry, add Rime, this one is better the default input method
[13:53] <sarawara> do i need to uninstall anything first?
[13:53] <iiious> sarawara: no
[13:55] <iiious> gebjgd: 在等unity8，不过要还是现在那个像ubuntu phone的界面的话估计也是完蛋
[13:56] <gebjgd> iiious, unity可以直接扔了
[13:57] <sarawara> I'm going to restart my comp, and see if it works
[13:57] <iiious> 其实不用重启Orz
[13:58] <iiious> gebjgd: 换桌面环境挺蛋疼的，重装一堆东西要搞
[13:59] <gebjgd> iiious, 有什么烦的 你用过arch了 还显这个麻烦 我向来所有de wm都装上
[14:00] <iiious> gebjgd: 哈哈，没用过Arch...只是过去看wiki的，只用过unity，kde和gnome
[14:09] <sarawara> iiious, it works (both with pin yin and rime, don't know why)
[14:09] <sarawara> except that it supposes my keyboard is querty (which it is not, it's azerty)
[14:11] <iiious> sarawara: I searched it, it may happen after newly install, just update and reboot or restart ibus-deamon helps
[14:11] <iiious> sarawara: happy to see it works :)
[14:12] <sarawara> 谢谢 iiious !
[14:12] <iiious> sarawara: you're welcome
[14:14] <sarawara> have a nice day/night ! 再见
[14:15] <iiious> sarawara: bye :)
[14:16] <sarawara> and if anyone is looking to study chinese (or physics, maths or anything) I found this site to be quite interesting ... https://www.edx.org/
[14:16] <ubrl> ⇪ t: edX | Free online courses from the world's best universities
[15:39] <ulot0> ubrl, hello
[15:39] <ubrl> ulot0:点点点. 23:36
[15:39] <ulot0> ubrl,how are you
[15:40] <ulot0> ubrl, what's you name?
[19:07] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 用上telecom的光纤了
[19:07] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 爽歪了
[23:59] <^k^> 新 软件/网站开发 • jdk的问题，这算正常吗？真是蛋疼。。 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473652 zz: enginep — 2015-11-03 0:01
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[07:21] <dholbach> good morning
[09:50] <afidegnum> hello, I am developing a touch related application and I am having permission denied on /dev/input/event7 i did chmod 777 to /dev/input/event7 and I am having "Operation not permitted" error how can i make it available to other apps and utilities?
[13:22] <dhalsim> hi guys, I need some help with an init.d service script that I wrote.
[13:22] <dhalsim> I'm trying to add a new startup script to init.d, If I "sudo ./myscript start" it works, but "sudo service myscript start" it just prints "myscript start/post-start, process 3098"
[13:22] <dhalsim> anyone?
[13:24] <brendand> dhalsim, that's completely normal
[13:24] <dhalsim> brendand what did I miss?
[13:26] <brendand> dhalsim, what did you expect to happen?
[13:30] <dhalsim> brendand: I expect it executes my grunt.js task (which executes some other commands and eventually starts node.js app)
[13:31] <brendand> dhalsim, anyway in the former you are actually running the script directly but the latter is running it via (upstart?) and will output the status of the command - the actual output of the command will be logged elsewhere
[13:31] <brendand> try ~/.cache/upstart
[13:32] <brendand> actually it isn't upstart is it...
[13:32] <dhalsim> brendand: no I'm not using upstart
[13:32] <ogra_> yeah, thats bad
[13:32] <brendand> dhalsim, systemd, or sysvinit?
[13:32] <ogra_> use upstart ;)
[13:32] <dhalsim> yeah the problem is "ps aux | grep node" prints nothing
[13:32] <brendand> dhalsim, please don't say sysvinit
[13:33] <ogra_> because it stops in post-start
[13:33] <ogra_> as it tells you
[13:35] <dhalsim> brendand, ogra_ it says SystemV -> http://pm2.keymetrics.io/docs/usage/startup/
[13:36] <ogra_> whats that running on ? a desktop ? a server ?
[13:36] <ogra_> (note that you cant ship any kind of init jobs on the phone)
[13:37] <dhalsim> I'm actually using a vagrant ubuntu trusty (server) VM image
[13:37] <ogra_> ok, so if you use trusty you want an upstart job .. if you use vivid and later you want a systemd unit
[13:41] <dhalsim> Ok, I'll tried upstart, thanks ogra_
[13:42] <dhalsim> *try
[15:07] <ahayzen> davmor2, ping
[15:08] <davmor2> ahayzen: whats up
[15:08] <ahayzen> davmor2, Hi, we have, not for the first time, had a mediascanner2 database change break all of our autopilot tests and go unnoticed for a few weeks. I was wondering if it would be possible to add to the mediascanner2 manual test cases that you do a run of the music-app autopilot tests if there is a database change?
[15:12] <davmor2> ahayzen: can't find the testplan currently but I can add it if I find it
[15:12] <ahayzen> davmor2, ok thanks :-) just a simple bug report against music as a heads up when it breaks would be super useful :-)
[15:12] <davmor2> ahayzen: also you can take it up with the mediascanner guys too, to give you a heads up when they randomly change stuff to
[15:12] <ahayzen> :-)
[15:24] <davmor2> ahayzen: are you using a private api for mediascanner?
[15:45] <balloons> mzanetti, is there a day / time you want for http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22638/unity8-convergence-show-tell/?
[15:47] <mzanetti> balloons, don't mind the day, on the time, if possible during my workning hours, so before 5pm UTC
[15:48] <balloons> mzanetti, ack. Tues at 1600 it is then
[15:48] <mzanetti> balloons, works for me
[23:13] <josharenson> I'm trying to change the what highlight looks like in an OptionSelectorDelegate... is this possible or should I implement a custom delegate?
[23:35] <snizzo> heyheyheyhey! Is there a way to open file browser app on a path from an other app? Or is it possible to create a symlink in home from an app?
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-devel
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[04:21] <FourDollars> Why can we use some kind of suffix like 6.14.04.1 in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-efi for trusty? In there any documentation for this kind of rule?
[05:05] <darkxst> FourDollars, the rule is that an SRU version can't conflict with any past or future versions of the package
[05:07] <FourDollars> darkxst: OK. So can I use 25ubuntu6.20151102.1 if the previous version is 25ubuntu6?
[05:09] <darkxst> FourDollars, well you could, but dates are usually used for vcs snapshots
[05:10] <FourDollars> darkxst: How about 25ubuntu6trusty1? Is it also valid?
[05:11] <FourDollars> darkxst: The precise version used 25ubuntu1.2 for 25ubuntu1. I am wondering why the trusty version used 25ubuntu6.14.04.1 for 25ubuntu6.
[05:11] <darkxst> FourDollars, well that would be greater than the version that copied into utopic, so no
[05:12] <darkxst> 25ubuntu6.14.04.1 or 25ubuntu6.1, would have been equally fine
[05:12] <darkxst> and they are the two most common forms of SRU versions
[05:13] <FourDollars> darkxst: I guess using 14.04 is to indicate this change is used for trusty, right?
[05:14] <darkxst> FourDollars, yes
[05:15] <darkxst> also if there had been a 25ubuntu6.1 in utopic before the trusty upload that could not have been used either
[05:16] <darkxst> that kind of situation would probably only happen with projects with dead or slow upstream releases though
[05:16] <FourDollars> darkxst: 25ubuntu6.14.04.1 is also greater than the version that copied into utopic. Why is it OK?
[05:18] <darkxst> FourDollars, sorry itss the other way around, you can't upload 25ubuntu7, because that would be a possible future version
[05:18] <darkxst> so 6trusty1 would be ok
[05:19] <FourDollars> darkxst: OK. I see. Thank you for your explanation.
[07:21] <dholbach> good morning
[09:42] <Odd_Bloke> pitti: Xenial images for you to play with are at http://people.canonical.com/~dwatkins/20151028/
[09:42] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[11:58] <nikolam> Hi, shouldn't I have btrfs-tools with same version as the kernel in LTS? I have 3.19.0-31 kernel and 3.12-1 btrfs-tools and I am having an issue with very slow Btrfs send...
[12:01] <highvoltage> /win/win /win 26
[12:01] <highvoltage> (lol sorry)
[12:01] <ogra_> what a winner you are today :)
[12:01] <nikolam> winnner of windows 3.1 starting with win ?
[12:31] <Mirv> Laney: would the "Please add packages to qt5 package set" thread on devel-permissions need something more still.I did a proposal two weeks ago, but then obviously there was release rush etc so I can see why it'd be easily forgotten again.
[12:35] <Laney> Mirv: I don't remember, sorry, let me check on it shortly
[12:37] <Mirv> Laney: ok, thanks, no hurry
[14:03] <seb128> hum
[14:04] <seb128> $ ./process-removals -s obexd
[14:04] <seb128> INFO:root:obexd (0.48-2.1): back in sid - skipping.
[14:04] <seb128> but no
[14:05] <seb128> $ rmadison -u debian obexd
[14:05] <seb128> obexd | 0.28-1 | oldoldstable | source
[14:05] <seb128> obexd | 0.46-1 | oldstable | source
[14:05] <seb128> wth?
[14:08] <didrocks> Comment: (From Debian) ROM; obsolete; Debian bug #772094
[14:08] <didrocks> Remove [y|N]?
[14:08] <didrocks> with process-removals here
[14:09] <didrocks> (I didn't accept yet, the warning is after it?)
[14:09] <cjwatson> seb128: you probably have an old cached Debian_something file in your current dir
[14:09] <cjwatson> process-removals is kinda ropey
[14:10] <didrocks> yeah, I check on my Sources.gz that were downloaded, no reference for sure
[14:10] <didrocks> seb128: want me to ack?
[14:11] <Laney> FourDollars: Do you have an XPS 13 with 14.04 on it to check the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1480217 ?
[14:11] <seb128> didrocks, if you want
[14:11] * didrocks flushes
[14:11] <didrocks> Laney: FYI ^
[14:11] <seb128> cjwatson, indeed I had, thanks for pointing that out
[14:12] <seb128> Laney, did larsu fix the icons issue as well now?
[14:12] <Laney> looks ok to me
[14:36] <cyphermox> good morning!
[14:42] <teward> does anyone know how apport / ubuntu-bug detects duplicate bugs? Second related question is if it can detect duplicate package-type bugs based on a given signature...
[14:51] <seb128> slangasek, your python-pgmagick no change rebuild failed, the new version (pypi.debian.net/pgmagick/pgmagick-0.5.12.tar.gz) add compat for the graphicsmagick version if you want to do the update
[14:52] <slangasek> seb128: thanks, that build failure was on my list of things to look at
[15:02] <FourDollars> Laney: Yes, I have an XPS 13 with HiDPI screen.
[15:03] <Laney> FourDollars: with 14.04, right?
[15:04] <FourDollars> Laney: Let me check.
[15:05] <FourDollars> Laney: Yes, it is with 14.04.
[15:07] <Laney> FourDollars: ok, could you check with the debs in http://people.canonical.com/~laney/package-junkyard/ please?
[15:10] <dobey> teward: the bugs that apport marks as duplicate, matches the stack signature afaik
[15:11] <FourDollars> Laney: Yes, it seems to fix the issue.
[15:17] <Laney> FourDollars: thanks
[15:17] <FourDollars> Laney: np
[15:18] <davmor2> Laney: does that let me off the hook or do you want a second confirm?
[15:18] <Laney> davmor2: you can verify it from trusty-proposed later on if you want :P
[16:39] <dholbach> can somebody moderate my mail on u-d-a?
[16:54] <cjwatson> dholbach: done
[16:57] <dholbach> thanks cjwatson
[18:01] <teward> dobey: OK, so no way to make an apport bug detect something from the report attachments itself, then, to determine a duplicate...?
[18:01] <NikTh> Hello, anyone else getting similar errors ? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/224027178/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.linux_4.3.0-00.201511021933_BUILDING.txt.gz
[18:02] <NikTh> Found this one, seems similar but... no coding here :-) https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/11/644
[18:02] <pitti> teward: there is; normally through the signature of the stack trace, but we also have plenty of "patterns" to match on e. g. dpkg log files or X.org logs
[18:03] <dobey> what pitti said
[18:03] <pitti> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns/files
[18:03] <pitti> teward: ^
[18:04] <teward> pitti: does that work from output of commands done by package hooks? The reason I've been asking is there is a *substantial* number of bugs being filed against 'nginx' for "Could not bind to *:80: Address in use" errors, and they come up in most of the bug reports seen. Thanks to the apport hooks i can tell what causes the install/upgrade postinstall failure (it's that), but... trying to eliminate some work :p
[18:04] <teward> pitti: thanks i'll peek
[18:04] <pitti> teward: yes, on any field of the report, doesn't matter
[18:04] <sarnold> NikTh: maybe add libssl-dev to your Build-depends: line?
[18:04] <teward> pitti: OK, i'll start poking and peeking. Thanks.
[18:05] <NikTh> sarnold: Thanks. Let me try.
[18:06] <sarnold> NikTh: (I haven't verified that that package has the file you need, it just doesn't appear in your build logs and seems plausible)
[18:07] <teward> sarnold: betcha it's openssl-dev not being installed.
[18:07] <teward> sarnold: apt-file shows openssl-dev as installing that file to /usr/include/openssl/opensslv.h so...
[18:07] <teward> (with regard to NikTh's issue)
[18:08] <teward> (at least in Trusty)
[18:08] <NikTh> sarnold: I have the trusty's config files as they are. I have changed nothing except adding my <e-mail> there (in control files)
[18:08] <sarnold> teward: heh, N: Unable to locate package openssl-dev
[18:08] <teward> oops
[18:08] <teward> libssl-dev
[18:08] * teward yawns
[18:08] <teward> sarnold: E:NoCoffee
[18:08] <teward> :)
[18:08] <NikTh> haha :)
[18:08] <sarnold> :)
[18:08] <NikTh> Ok, libssl-dev it is, then. I will try this one. :)
[18:08] <teward> Thank goodness, coffee's here. *steals a "Box o' Joe" and gets to developer work*
[18:19] <teward> pitti: so, then in the bug patterns XML file, key would be whichever item grabbed by the package hooks I want to look at, and regex-matching? *trying to wrap head around the apport bug pattern detection*
[18:20] <pitti> teward: right; the README file hopefully explains the basics of it
[18:20] <teward> ok
[18:20] <teward> you know what the page didn't show me? The README file
[18:20] <teward> >.<
[18:25] <teward> pitti: that reminds me, I have a typo in my package hooks... oops.
[18:25] * teward should fix that xD
[19:41] <teward> pitti: with regards to apport and duplicate detection, how does that work if we have different versions in different releases that will have different report data? (Vivid+ has my apport hooks, Trusty and earlier don't and use different files for the data...)
[19:43] <pitti> teward: I guess you'd create two patterns, one for vivid+, one for trusty?
[19:43] <teward> ok
[19:44] <teward> works for me, for now i'll focus on vivid+ 'cause that's where the hooks exist, i'm still ironing out the trusty/precise ones.
[19:44] <teward> thanks
[20:00] <teward> pitti: would you be able to spot-check for blatantly obvious evil errors in my pattern that i've written locally?
[20:00] <pitti> teward: sure! pastebin the diff?
[20:01] <teward> will do shortly, in the middle of beating an nfs share 'cause i need the data there :P
[20:01] <sil2100> cjwatson: hey! So, would it be possible to move the LP weekly translation exports for ubuntu-rtm/15.04 a day later? (on Wednesdays) I remember the rationale for it being set for Tuesdays was that it's hard to schedule as normally those take a lot of time to create
[20:01] <sil2100> cjwatson: but the 15.04 ones actually build in 5-10 minutes
[20:01] <sil2100> cjwatson: you think that would be doable?
[20:07] <teward> pitti: i'm going to thoroughly test this of course but in the interim: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13085614/
[20:08] <teward> my regex-fu is not super strong though
[20:09] <pitti> teward: hm, that bug doesn't actually have a SystemctlStatusFull_Nginx.txt attachment, but I suppose one of the dupes
[20:10] <teward> pitti: no, that bug doesn't, it's the master
[20:10] <pitti> teward: ( and ) are magic in REs, so you need to escape them
[20:10] <teward> there's multiple dupes, I got tired of canned-responsing
[20:10] <teward> ok
[20:10] <teward> pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1495805 is one of the 'dupes'
[20:10] <pitti> teward: you can run ./test-local <supposed dupe> to make sure your pattern works
[20:10] <teward> OK
[20:11] <pitti> teward: so if you run it now against a dupe, it will most probably say that it didn't find a match
[20:11] <teward> pitti: i also have a typo in my apport hook which is going to be fixed soon so this is a 'testing first' before 'suggest inclusion' (gotta fix the apport hooks, gotta merge)
[20:11] <teward> pitti: ok.
[20:11] <teward> i'll do testing, but the blatantly obvious errors were the regex :)
[20:11] <pitti> teward: perhaps say "failed.*98: Address already in use" to avoid having to match the parentheses?
[20:12] <teward> mmm... that'd work.
[20:12] <pitti> teward: and then ./test-local should recognize it as a dupe
[20:23] <teward> will test that, thanks pitti
[20:25] <henrix> utlemming: the fixes for bug #1454758 have been applied to the Precise kernel, but it looks like they should actually be applied to the linux-backports-modules-3.2.0 instead. could you confirm this?
[20:25] <henrix> utlemming: (apw suggested me to ping you ;) )
[20:26] <henrix> utlemming: this caught my attention because this seems to break the -lbm build
[20:36] <teward> pitti: who has to do the review of a merge though, once I have this 'tested' and 'working'? Do I just make a merge req?
[20:44] <sil2100> slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hevea/+bug/1512467
[20:48] <teward> pitti: test-local's causing "file stream must be in binary mode" errors, 15.04 testing. Passing it the path for the .crash file, is this normal?
[20:59] <sil2100> slangasek: thanks for sponsoring!
[21:00] <slangasek> sil2100: no prob
[21:03] <cyphermox> slangasek: should we be looking at the ocaml transition in particular?
[21:03] <sil2100> cyphermox: I'm working on that now
[21:03] <cyphermox> yeah
[21:03] <sil2100> Moving steadily with the bleh rebuilds
[21:03] <cyphermox> I know, that's why I'm asking; I think we want to avoid duplicating work, but there is a lot of ocaml anyway
[21:03] <sil2100> I might be done somewhere tomorrow since I want to spend most of my time there
[21:04] <slangasek> cyphermox: sil2100 is driving it, I don't know that it needs more eyeballs currently
[21:05] <cyphermox> slangasek: I figured; I picked $random !ocaml.
[21:05] <cyphermox> sil2100: are you using update-output-helper too?
[21:06] <sil2100> cyphermox: no, not sure if I know that one, I use chroots, check if it installs and why not and rebuild/fix
[21:06] <sil2100> I have a script that does the no-change rebuilds for me
[21:08] <cyphermox> sil2100: ok
[21:11] <teward> pitti: nevermind, i fixed it although I had to generate another bug to test it. Looks like the pattern, with your help, matches and spits out the 'master bug' for the issue I created earlier today. How do I go about getting it included in the apport patterns?
[21:11] <teward> (I'll upload a new branch just for that)
[21:15] <NikTh> sarnold: I've passed the error with openssl because of your suggestion and thanks. Any thoughts in the new error? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6HM0WzCc
[21:16] <sarnold> NikTh: look higher up in the build log
[21:16] <NikTh> sarnold: if it matters this lines occur immediately after " LD drivers/built-in.o"
[21:16] <NikTh> these
[21:17] <NikTh> hmm, maybe I have to paste the full log ? I'm trying this local now (pbuilder)
[21:17] <sarnold> if it's immediately after the LD .. line then you may need to add V=1 to the top-level make command to figure out what exactly died
[21:18] <NikTh> sarnold: I will try this. Thanks.
[21:54] <pitti> teward: re (sorry, meeting)
[21:54] <pitti> teward: just do an MP and I'll review/merge it
[21:54] <teward> pitti: OK, will do, gotta poke a few things
[21:54] <teward> pitti: the test-local doesn't work with .crash files though
[21:54] <teward> (see the error I said it printed earlier)
[21:55] <teward> in which case the 'usage' help on it should be updated perhaps
[21:55] <pitti> teward: no, just with LP bugs, as that's what it operates on
[21:55] <teward> OK
[21:55] <teward> pitti: (the actual executable says to pass it a .crash file path though or an LP bug)
[21:55] <pitti> teward: oh, ok; sorry, it's been ages since I've used it
[21:55] <teward> "Usage: %s <.crash file or bug number>", line 27 :)
[21:56] <teward> pitti: i'll have a bugpatterns update, but then i may go poking at the script, propose a few changes if it only works with LP bug numbers.
[21:56] <teward> give me a few minutes, gotta change wireless APs.
[21:56] <pitti> teward: that would be appreciated
[22:00] <teward> pitti: feel free to reject if the target bug is not satisfactory, I have another bug avaialble that can be the target. Merge Req. against the bugcontrol repo, or the lp:apport project?
[22:02] <pitti> teward: against the branch you branched it off, i. e. the ubuntu-bugpatterns one
[22:02] <teward> ack
[22:03] <teward> pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~teward/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns-nginx/+merge/276471 is the merge, let me know :)
[22:03] * teward has no issues if it's rejected
[22:05] <pitti> teward: pulled, thakns!
[22:07] <teward> eheheheheh, i spammed myself 'cause it's a bugcontrol branch xD
[22:07] <teward> pitti: thank you for pulling it in :)
[22:08] <teward> i appreciate all the help from you and others on the apport bug stuff (both the package hooks and the dupe detection)
[22:13] <teward> pitti: if I happen to update the report attachment name in Xenial (as a result of fixing a couple typos in my hooks), I assume i'll have to make an update to the bugpatterns?
[22:14] <pitti> teward: right; you should duplicate the entire pattern clause and adjust the key name if that changes
[22:26] <teward> pitti: it may or may not change, depends on whether the tiny typo (it duplicates the .txt extension twice on attachments) really irritates me that much :P
[22:26] <teward> i'll let you know when I have any such changes :)
[22:27] <teward> again, thanks for your help though :)
[22:27] <sil2100> Does anyone know who's the current maintainer of our transition tracker code? lp:ubuntu-transition-tracker
[22:27] <pitti> teward: the key="" value itself is not a re, the re matching applies to the contents of the key
[22:28] <pitti> teward: so this does need a new rule then
[22:28] <teward> ok
[22:28] <teward> pitti: right, i know it isn't a re, just wanted to make sure that's what I'd have to edit if i fix the typo in the hooks :)
[22:29] <teward> as it stands it's so minor that it's not really needing fixing - doesn't affect the report much
[22:31] <sil2100> slangasek, other-core-devs: could anyone sponsor https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-3.5/+bug/1512502 for me?
[22:56] <slangasek> sil2100: done
[22:56] <sil2100> slangasek: thank you!
[22:57] * sil2100 feels silly uploading so many no-change rebuilds
[22:57] <sil2100> Free karma I suppose
[22:57] <slangasek> ;)
[22:57] <Unit193> You know what they say about Karma...
[23:00] <NikTh> sarnold: If this helps you , because I cannot understand what is happening. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=f6sNZvEL
[23:02] <sarnold> NikTh: sorry, I can't spot anything unusual or incorrect
[23:02] <sarnold> NikTh: it's possible that the error is still earlier in the log, I guess
[23:05] <NikTh> sarnold: no problem. Thanks for all your help till here. Maybe it's my misconfiguration after all (in debian.master/ folder , because I've changed too many things there). I will try tomorrow again. bb.
[23:05] <sarnold> good luck :)
[23:34] <cjwatson> sil2100: I expect we can find some time when it won't collide with other things, but please could you remind me during the daytime or send me mail or something so I'll remember?
[23:34] <sil2100> cjwatson: sure! Thanks :)
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[01:14] <andystar> What was that about? Someone banned me from Ubuntu.
[01:18] <Pici> bazhang: ^ ?
[01:18] <bazhang> andystar, yes hello
[01:18] <bazhang> thanks Pici
[01:22] <andystar> bazhang, I didn't appreciate you and daftykins seeming to gang up on me about talking about ubottu or not talking about ubottu, when that is a regular tool to use in the ubuntu channel.
[01:22] <andystar> bazhang, The use of all caps seemed to escalate the issue to an unnecessary level, too.
[01:23] <bazhang> andystar, its not a debate for #ubuntu
[01:23] <andystar> bazhang, Who said there was a debate?
[01:24] <andystar> "We value discussion, data and decisiveness"
[01:26] <andystar> So, can I still ask my question in ubuntu?
[01:29] <andystar> Will I just be temporarily banned from ubuntu?
[01:30] <hggdh> it depends on you, mostly
[01:50] <andystar> Can I still ask my question about Ubuntu?
[01:50] <bazhang> andystar, did you see what was said above or no
[01:51] <andystar> I logged out after hggdh's remark. It didn't make any sense.
[01:52] <bazhang> whats your question about ubuntu andystar
[01:54] <bazhang> andystar, you need to respond in a timely fashion
[01:54] <andystar> I have been trying to make kxstudio work with xubuntu for several weeks. I am afraid that when I reinstall, I will lose some of my work.
[01:56] <andystar> I am sorry I type so slowly. I don't know what to say, sometimes.
[01:56] <bazhang> andystar, are you going to remain ontopic, no more debates about bot usage in #ubuntu as its strictly a support channel
[01:58] <andystar> bazhang, I need to take a break for a while. I am a bit upset about what happened earlier.
[02:00] <bazhang> ok andystar , the ban stands, come back when you can discuss in a more suitable frame of mind
[02:09] <andystar> bazhang, I don't think there should be much to discuss.
[02:10] <bazhang> andystar, I asked above about you agreeing or not on the debating bot usage in #ubuntu
[02:13] <andystar> bezhang, I respect daftykins a lot about his computer knowledge. I didn't realize I was debating him. I just wanted to reply to what he was saying.
[02:19] <andystar> bazhang, Does the way I am chatting with you now seem respectful?
[02:20] <hggdh> andystar: yes, it is respectful. Pretty much like we replying to you. What we cannot undesrstand is you refusing to answer a direct question.
[02:21] <hggdh> which, frankly, makes me consider that you should have a time to cool off
[02:22] <andystar> I think I have answered it, by the lack of yes or no.
[02:23] <andystar> I cannot promise that everything will always be perfectly on topic, even when I intend it to be so.
[02:24] <hggdh> andystar: as you wish. I vote for the ban staying for a while.
[02:26] <hggdh> andystar: now, since we seem to be done here, please /part
[02:27] <andystar> I thought the discussion with daftykins was over, when bazhang stepped in. I was just offended at the all caps.
[02:35] <k1l> hi andystar since the other ops are partially afk i will jump in to spped this a bit up.
[02:35] <andystar> Thanks.
[02:35] <andystar> I just want to be heard.
[02:36] <andystar> I don't want to bother anybody.
[02:36] <k1l> andystar: after debating with daftykins about 20mins in #ubuntu about ubottu and the usage in the channel the op asked you to stop that: "andystar, take the chat to the offtopic room NOT here"
[02:37] <k1l> that was a reasonable and was not meant as offence.
[02:39] <andystar> I didn't see how much time had passed. Now I am seeing that a lot more time is passing.
[02:40] <k1l> than in here you were asked if you can act according to the guidelines in future in #ubuntu, which you did not answer that you are able to. so right now the ban will stand. please come back the next days when you had a re-read of the guidelines and thought about you can accept that as the behaviour we would like to have in #ubuntu
[02:40] <andystar> I just want to feel welcome if I am going to be involved with the ubuntu community.
[02:40] <andystar> I can act with the guidelines of the ubuntu channel.
[02:40] <andystar> I just didn't know what they were.
[02:40] <k1l> if you need support in the meantime you could try askubuntu, ubuntuforums, mailinglists or the discourse thingy :)
[02:41] <k1l> !guidelines | andystar
[02:43] <k1l> @mark andystar told to come back the next days to resolve the ban
[03:56] <andystar> !log
[03:56] <andystar> Hi.
[03:57] <andystar> Was there anything else said after I logged out?
[04:42] <andystar> I would like to fix my installation of Ubuntu, rather than reinstalling.
[04:43] <andystar> I tried deleting one of the folders of the .config directory, and purging cadence and reinstalling, but the sound still does not work.
[04:50] <andystar> hggdh, Is there anyone still online?
[05:01] <andystar> hggdh, I have read the guidelines. It appears that I did not break any rules.
[05:10] <andystar> It appears that bazhang broke the code of conduct, by using all caps in the irc. I don't think it was appropriate for him to ban me, shortly after that.
[05:15] <andystar> !op
[06:42] <CarlFK> andystar: I suggest you find a friend that you trust to read http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-ops.html and help you understand what you should do.
[06:45] <andystar> CarlFK, About what?
[06:48] <CarlFK> andystar: please /part this channel.
[06:48] <andystar> I am waiting for my response.
[06:53] <andystar> CarlFK, I am not sure how asking for a friend to read through the logs helps me to be unbanned.
[06:56] <valorie> CarlFK: what a lovely suggestion to andystar
[06:57] <CarlFK> valorie: thanks.
[10:21] <andystar> Hello?
[10:22] <andystar> Can I get back into Ubuntu?
[10:24] <andystar> Why can't I get into Ubuntu?
[18:06] <andystar> Can I be unbanned yet?
[18:07] <Pici> andystar: let me take a look, one moment
[18:10] <hggdh> andystar: what was writtten in all caps?
[18:10] <andystar> hggdh, It was just one word.
[18:11] <andystar> hggdh, It was the word "not."
[18:13] <Pici> andystar: okay, we're going to remove the ban. just a moment
[18:14] <Pici> andystar: you should be able to join #ubuntu now, please keep our guidelines in mind and have a good afternoon.
[18:18] <hggdh> darn! Something went south on my weechat config
[18:19] <Pici> hggdh: I removed the ban before you did
[18:19] <hggdh> ah
[18:21] <andystar> Thanks.
[18:22] <andystar> As I said before, I just want to feel welcome, so if I have questions about Linux or Ubuntu, I can have someone to talk about Linux with.
[18:36] <hggdh> andystar: now, please /part. This is no-idling channel.
[18:37] <andystar> I hope I can talk about the issue later, here if possible.
[18:37] <andystar> I still feel a little bit traumatized by what happened.
[18:37] <andystar> I have never been banned before, not for anything.
[18:38] <andystar> Thanks anyways.
[21:51] <Pici> Unit193: mind taking a look at #ubuntu at this time, when you get a second
[21:52] <k1l> its the GeyikTR. com spam crew again
[21:53] <Pici> Unit193: particularly the " unknown pattern, or pattern already active" part
[21:53] <k1l> the bot is handling it quite well
[21:53] <Pici> yeah, it just shouldn't have announced an error like that in channel
[21:53] <Pici> otherwise, its doing great
[21:54] <Unit193> Ah yeah, that's something else.
[21:54] <k1l> ah, didnt scroll that much in the backlog
[21:54] <Unit193> Also netsplits.
[21:55] <k1l> https://imgflip.com/i/tiu6h
[21:55] <k1l> ;p
[22:06] <Unit193> Pici: Actually, that shouldn't be happening. Hrm.
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[11:08] <saoungoumi> .
[11:31] <ariabbas> .
[17:43] <ariabbas> .
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2015-11-02-#launchpad
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[04:00] <SusieQ> I would like to know if the speed issues accessing ppa.launchpad.net are affecting everyone?
[09:55] <Laney> how long are packages supposed to remain in Packages for after they are deleted?
[09:55] <Laney> I just got python-pexpect 4.0.1-0~ppa1 from ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/ppa but didrocks apparently deleted it on 2015-10-19
[09:55] <Laney> if https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=pexpect&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter= is right
[10:45] <glen> hi. i have some automatic bzr->translations setup for a project
[10:46] <glen> but i can not find place where it is configured
[10:46] <glen> launchpad interface has always struck me as really complex and least documented
[10:46] <glen> anyway, i've migrated to git, and i would like the automatic translatsions commits apepar in git repo from now on
[10:48] <glen> the project i'm speaking of : https://code.launchpad.net/eventum
[10:49] <glen> and the branch that is used for translations auto commit https://code.launchpad.net/~glen666/eventum/po
[10:49] <cjwatson> we don't yet support automatic translation commits to git, unfortunately; it's one of the things on the backlog for full parity with bzr
[10:51] <glen> can i do that somehow differently, like setup git->bzr pull and then do the translations thing?
[10:51] <glen> ps: where is that translations commit configured, i can not find it anywhere logical i tried to look
[10:55] <cjwatson> https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/Exports#Committing_translations_to_a_Bazaar_branch
[10:57] <cjwatson> I don't think you can sensibly do it by way of imports; you'd need bzr->git imports and LP doesn't do those automatically (that would be rather more work to implement than automatic translation commits!)
[10:57] <cjwatson> a git->bzr import won't work because you can't commit directly to one of those
[11:01] <glen> so, perhaps i just create emopty bzr repo containing only .pot
[11:01] <glen> and manually (outside launchpad infra) commit that .pot once it changes
[11:03] * cjwatson updates the Exports page a bit
[11:03] <cjwatson> I'm not sure what that would gain you
[11:04] <cjwatson> you could cron something externally that does a translation export from LP and updates the relevant git branch with that
[11:05] <cjwatson> and if you want to have LP auto-import translations as well, then for now, you could have LP maintain an automatic git->bzr import and import translations from that
[11:05] <cjwatson> I don't see any benefit to having a pot-only bzr branch though
[11:20] <glen> i see the benefit that don't have to merge the changes, .pot is changed rarely, whole whole repo more often
[11:20] <glen> also i did have bzr2git script, but it broke at some point.
[11:21] <glen> can i change old bzr repo to use git sync instead? how?
[11:21] <glen> (that is different topic)
[11:24] <cjwatson> but if you're doing commits externally anyway, no merging needs to be involved - just commit the translations directly
[11:24] <cjwatson> I hope we'll have git-to-git imports relatively soon, but we haven't started on the necessary infrastructure yet
[11:34] <glen> so, can i commit .pot update directly to https://code.launchpad.net/~glen666/eventum/po ?
[11:58] <cjwatson> you can, I'm still not sure what you gain from that if you aren't actually using the bzr branch for code development, you might as well just upload it directly to LP
[12:06] <glen> i can do scripting to bzr automatically, uploading directly to lp is manual work
[14:20] <teward> i have a question. how does automated duplicate detection work for bugs in the Ubuntu project on Launchpad? Is there some signature that is used to detect some duplicates?
[14:22] <cjwatson> teward: not implemented by Launchpad itself, apport or apport-duplicates or something like that does it
[14:30] <teward> cjwatson: OK, so should I poke -devel ?
[14:30] <cjwatson> sure
[14:53] <Jack_> Hi
[14:54] <Jack_> I'm trying to install a package called Zeal but getting the following error:
[14:54] <Jack_> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:55] <Jack_> I have tried:
[14:55] <Jack_> $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zeal-developers/ppa $ sudo apt-get update
[14:58] <cjwatson> Jack_: what Ubuntu release are you running?
[15:00] <Jack_> 12.04
[15:00] <Jack_> cjwatson:
[15:00] <cjwatson> Jack_: That PPA only publishes packages for 14.04, 14.10, and 15.04. We only maintain the hosting infrastructure, and it's up to PPA owners to decide what releases they want to support
[15:00] <cjwatson> Jack_: https://launchpad.net/~zeal-developers has contact details
[15:01] <Jack_> Oh I see, so I would probably need to build myself?
[15:02] <cjwatson> Jack_: that or ask them to help, yes
[15:02] <Jack_> OK, thank you cjwatson :)
[16:37] <teward> the armhf ppa builders are still virtualized right? Or are they physical yet?
[16:54] <cjwatson> teward: you have that one backwards, sort of
[16:55] <cjwatson> teward: current state: armhf builds for the Ubuntu primary archive and for certain privileged PPAs run on unsandboxed physical hardware; armhf builds for PPAs run on x86 systems using qemu-user-static
[16:56] <cjwatson> teward: we're part-way through setting up a new system in which all arm64 and armhf builds will be virtualised on arm64 hardware
[19:10] <__marco> Hello. Times ago I built a package. Now I would like to update that package but I don't know how
[19:11] <__marco> I downloaded the source (apt-get source blabla), made the modifications, updated the changelog and uploaded the .changes file again (debuild -S -sd)
[19:12] <__marco> but the package is not showed and the builds not launched
[19:15] <dobey> source packages must be signed with a valid gpg key that matches the one configured for your launchpad account
[19:15] <dobey> otherwise you will not get an e-mail about the upload being accepted or not, and it will not appear in the PPA
[19:23] <__marco> dobey: can I update a key in the keyserver?
[19:24] <__marco> just to extend the expire time
[19:24] <__marco> in the keyserver or in launchpad (it says that the key is already imported)
[19:25] <tumbleweed> yes you can
[19:25] <dobey> you have to update the keyserver, yes
[19:26] <__marco> I updated the key in the keyserver but I don't know how to import the key again in launchpad
[19:26] <__marco> or maybe I don't need it
[19:26] <dobey> you don't i don't think. launchpad just has the fingerprint
[19:26] <__marco> I try
[19:30] <__marco> Successfully uploaded packages... but I cannot see them in the ppa
[19:32] <__marco> sorry... I did not complete the activation procedure
[19:37] <__marco> dobey: tumbleweed thanks a lot. It worked
[19:37] <__marco> dinner time
[19:37] <__marco> bye
[19:53] <teward> remind me how I make a branch of my own that's based off another group's branch so that I can propose a merge request?
[19:53] * teward forgot :/
[19:53] <teward> or rather, how to push my 'modified' branch to LP
[19:54] <dobey> bzr push lp:~teward/project/branch
[19:55] <teward> thank you
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2015-11-02-#kubuntu
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[00:02] <theteju> ok seems that printer needs some 32 bit libraries
[00:02] <theteju> can anyone help me here.
[00:11] <SoCha> hey, can someone tell me how I did this in konsole (as in brought up network info). I think it was a shortcut. http://s10.postimg.org/5omjjlxex/snapshot11.png
[01:06] <DDR> Hi all. What is "CPU Wait Load" in System Monitor?
[01:07] <DDR> Does anyone know how to make ctrl-d not close my console?
[01:16] <u19809> hi all, just installed wily werewolf and not very happy with it ... have some serious issues
[01:16] <u19809> sleep does not function, often after some time konsole does not want to start anymore, window manager crashes so I need to restart
[01:17] <u19809> taks about a minut for my panel icons have the correct size
[01:17] <u19809> disk sleeps all the time
[01:17] <u19809> konsole crashes and eats 100% cpu
[01:17] <u19809> suggestions ?
[01:20] <DDR> Jesus. Uh, turn off compositor for the window stuff, maybe? (alt-shift-f12) Try a different rendering backend? (system settings -> compositor -> rendering backend)
[01:20] <DDR> How much ram / swap space do you have?
[01:35] <u19809> @DDR : 16 GB
[01:36] <u19809> Just seeing I have no swap
[02:14] <theteju> Does anyone know, how to get shotwell export pictures to google on KDE?
[02:36] <theteju> There is absolutely no support , is there?
[02:37] <theteju> :(
[02:38] <excalibr> theteju, try mass highlighting
[02:38] <excalibr> >:D
[02:39] <excalibr> theteju, sorry cant help. Ive never use its export feature
[02:41] <theteju> its ok. excalibr : appreciated your response
[03:02] <hazamonzo> Well dang! :D
[03:09] <excalibr> yes hazamonzo? you finally woke up
[03:10] <hazamonzo> excalibr: ?
[03:47] <BobbyJoe> hi im new to kubuntu, and my only problem is that im having problem finding auto hide the bottom taskbar
[03:50] <BobbyJoe> nvm im stupid i should google the envoriment, kde, gnome etc not kubuntu
[09:27] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:19] <Smurphy> *lol* All of a sudden, no more music under Kubuntu 15.10 ...
[10:19] <Smurphy> Anyway to downgrade to 15.04 again ? Having too many issues in 15.10 ..
[10:22] <s_20> Smurphy: well, my experience so far wasn't exactly great either
[10:22] <s_20> just as i said that plasma crashed and restarted with a font size of "unreadbale"
[10:22] <s_20> as in "one pixel"
[10:23] <s_20> great.
[10:23] <s_20> just great.
[10:23] <s_20> oh, it adjusted, well done.
[10:25] <hateball> Smurphy: Perhaps if you describe your issue in more detail we can see if it is fixable
[12:09] <Smurphy> hateball: 3 issues. Audio stopped working today for no apparent reason.
[12:09] <Smurphy> va-api provides no acceleration for HD4000 Intel chipset.
[12:11] <Smurphy> KMail from the contact suite is not usable for sending mail. As soon as I hit the send button, pop-up for spell-checker comes up, when I then stop the spellchecker, to actually send the mail, I have 0.2secs to actually hit the send button, or the kontact suite hangs hard. System load goes up to 16+, sometimes even 30 if I let it run long enough - and I have to go down to the console and kill it.
[12:11] <Smurphy> I suppose that it tries to spawn the password pop-up, and this does not work, which makes it hand. I don't store my passwords.
[12:11] <Smurphy> That - is what is happening.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:40] <Smurphy> Jo dude ...
[12:40] <Smurphy> BTW - why can't I navigate the mail list with the arrow up/down keys anymore ???
[12:52] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, if it's kmail then I have no clue
[12:52] <Smurphy> it is kmail ...
[12:52] <Smurphy> :}
[15:15] <lumidee> hi
[15:16] <lumidee> i see that kubuntus release in dec. will come with kf5. isn't kf5 with a lot missing tray icon ports disadvantegeous?
[15:19] <Smurphy> lumidee: It's not the icons which are the problem in 15.10 ...
[15:22] <lumidee> Smurphy, what other problems did you encounter
[15:22] <Smurphy> va-api not working, so no hardware acceleration for movies.
[15:22] <Smurphy> KMail - can't send out mails. UI hangs.
[15:23] <Smurphy> On every attempt to send mail.
[15:24] <Smurphy> I found out that by re-installing vlc though, amarok too it as backend, and the sound-system stops working.
[15:24] <Smurphy> This one, I have fixed. However the va-api and the kmail things, there is nothing I can do.
[15:28] <tzvika> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[15:29] <tzvika> qhwn do-release-upgrade from 14.04
[17:01] <Guest4851> hi there! i just updated to 15.10 this weekend, seems to work really great so far. I had one issue with my bluetooth headset - the quality seems to be really low. i think it's just in headset mode, instead of stereo mode - does anyone know how to fix?
[17:11] <Guest4851> ah - fixed it myself: there's a setting in the multimedia settings "Audio & Video", in the 2nd tab. Sounds great now!
[17:36] <Smurphy> ok - fixed the vlc va-api stuff. Removed completely vlc .config/vlc directory, and reconfigured it froms cratch...
[18:43] <andrez_> Hey, does anyone here has problems with Korganizer after updating to 15.10?
[18:47] <Smurphy> I got probs with kmail and sending mail. Korganizer works here. Using owncloud though/
[19:05] <andrez_> Nevermind, just figured out how to fix it myself :)
[19:11] <Smurphy> yeah, I just fixed kmail sending.
[19:11] <Smurphy> In fact, if you don't store your password, the password request UI won't show up and block the entire UI...
[19:11] <soee_> :)
[19:12] <Smurphy> I also fixed the vlc. Not showing any picture when watching a movie.
[19:13] <Smurphy> In Codecs, choose decoder CA-API via DRM.
[19:14] <Smurphy> That actually makes it work, when using intel chipset graphics.
[19:35] <aprendiz> hi all. Next upgrading to 15.10 my Nikon can't work because I connect but nothing appear, any idea to solve it?
[19:55] <gombean> guys, is it better to install steam from the repos or manually? kubuntu15.10
[19:56] <Kwaadpepper> steam is just working fine using repo
[19:57] <Kwaadpepper> no need to install manually as it self updates
[19:57] <gombean> ok thanks
[19:59] <Kwaadpepper> aprendiz: looking here http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/gphoto , you have install gphoto2 ?
[19:59] <Kwaadpepper> apt://gphoto2
[19:59] <Smurphy> gphoto ? What's that ?
[20:00] <Kwaadpepper> looks like it allows you to handle your camera on ubuntu
[20:00] <Smurphy> yeah... that's correct.
[20:01] <Kwaadpepper> there is a gui for that too using gtk2
[20:01] <Kwaadpepper> apt://gtkam
[20:02] <aprendiz> Kwaadpepper: but I have installed libgphoto2.6, the problem is only next upgrading
[20:02] <gombean> can I easily add a custom shortcut to show the desktop?
[20:03] <Kwaadpepper> aprendiz: what is giving you lsusb command ?
[20:04] <gombean> for example, I have super+E to open Dolphin, but I have no idea how to set the command to show desktop
[20:04] <gombean> derp, shortcuts>Kwin
[20:05] <gombean> shortcuts>Global>Kwin
[20:05] <aprendiz> Kwaadpepper: http://pastebin.com/LcnLM4ai
[20:06] <Kwaadpepper> gombean: Minimize All ,it allows you to toggle show desktop/restore windows
[20:06] <Kwaadpepper> iin shortcuts>Kwin
[20:07] <Kwaadpepper> aprendiz: well the kernel recognize your camera, you were using dolphin to get your photos ? or you tried apt://gtkam ?
[20:07] <gombean> Kwaadpepper: I don't see Minimize All but I see Show Desktop
[20:08] <Kwaadpepper> gombean: give it a try, i personally use ctrl+alt+d
[20:09] <gombean> Kwaadpepper: but show desktop is not the exact function i would like, as when i click any application from taskbar, it maximises all
[20:10] <Kwaadpepper> gombean: sorry can't help you more, do like me test it all to discover your needs, there is plenty options i don't know them all
[20:10] <aprendiz> Kwaadpepper: I have always used gwebview that always worked as default
[20:11] <gombean> Kwaadpepper: Ctrl+Alt combos/shortcuts do not play well on my thinkpad unfortunately, so i must be different :/
[20:11] <gombean> Kwaadpepper: you are right, minimise all would be better than show desktop, alas, I do not see it in the list
[20:13] <Kwaadpepper> aprendiz: may be some package changed from previous version, i don't have a nikkon though installing some more related packages could solve your issue
[20:13] <Kwaadpepper> gombean: on fresh install kubuntu 15.10 i have it, i don't know the related packages though
[20:14] <aprendiz> Kwaadpepper: what packages?
[20:15] <Kwaadpepper> aprendiz: apt://gtkam apt://gphoto2
[20:16] <Kwaadpepper> sudo apt-get install gphoto2 gtkam
[20:16] <gombean> Kwaadpepper: ah, i see now. it needs to be disabled in the Window Management settings before the shortcut entry appears under Shortcuts settings. thanks
[20:16] <gombean> *enaabled not disabled...
[20:17] <Kwaadpepper> gombean: o7
[20:18] <gombean> ?
[20:18] <Kwaadpepper> http://fr.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=o7
[20:18] <Kwaadpepper> just meat g
[20:18] <Kwaadpepper> gg
[20:18] <Kwaadpepper> meant*
[20:19] <gombean> Kwaadpepper: TIL I am old
[20:19] <Kwaadpepper> yes sorry for that
[20:23] <Kwaadpepper> aprendiz: there is also digikam on kubuntu http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/digikam
[20:25] <aprendiz> Kwaadpepper: Thanks, I am trying the packages yo advice me.
[20:58] <svend-ev> Good morning
[21:15] <aprendiz> Kwaadpepper: It looks like is working, thanks
[21:16] <Kwaadpepper> aprendiz: np
[21:19] <luc4> Hello! I would like to file a bug against kubuntu and I’m reading the ubuntu guidelines: is this correct? Or is there a kubuntu-specific document?
[21:20] <mparillo> !bugs
[21:21] <mparillo> Hmm. Could use updating.
[21:21] <mparillo> Generally, if you are pretty sure it is with a KDE component, you want to file your bug against bugs.kde.org.
[21:22] <mparillo> Otherwise (Kubuntu packaging, or Ubuntu core components) use launchpad.net
[21:22] <luc4> mparillo: I suppose the bug is in the kernel, so I guess I should use ubuntu-bugs right?
[22:01] <mparillo> luc4: I agree
[22:45] <gombean> hey all, I'm trying to get my wireless xbox 360 controller working with some emulators. It will work for me in steam via xpad - kubuntu15.10
[23:55] <hazamonzo> Evening gents. You about TJ-?
[23:56] <TJ-> About to head to bed :)
[23:56] <hazamonzo> TJ-: ahh no worries. What timezone are you in? :)
[23:57] <TJ-> hazamonzo: same as you: GMT
[23:58] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Ahh okay. I just finished work. Thought i'd give this Nvidia driver issue another bash :)
[23:58] <TJ-> hazamonzo: the Optimus thing, yeah. #ubuntu has a few experts about but most are laying low due to plenty of trolls recently :)
[23:59] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Noted. Maybe i'll catch you later on :)
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2015-11-02-#snappy
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[03:18] <liuxg> if my app is running on a raspberry pi, how can I get the output message like fmt.Printlin in golang? thanks.
[05:32] <stgraber> Chipaca: hey, so with the new random version stuff for sideloads, how am I supposed to test framework snaps which do require predictable paths (lxd)?
[05:32] <stgraber> Chipaca: it's not an option for us to have everything check the environment due to some binaries being setuid which would then give the user a trivial root escalation
[05:34] <stgraber> I guess we could just always use the current symlink, I think we didn't do so initially because of some apparmor interactions, though since we're unconfined nowadays that probably doesn't matter so much
[07:21] <dholbach> good morning
[07:41] <zyga> good morning
[08:17] <sabdfl> hi folks, who can help with some mail system and mailman debugging?
[09:20] <Chipaca> stgraber: for now, use the current symlink if you really need to
[09:21] <Chipaca> stgraber: wrt root escalation, i don't follow the exploit, but i haven't had your coffee yet
[09:21] <Chipaca> stgraber: i mean my coffee
[09:21] <Chipaca> see what i mean
[09:21] <Chipaca> stgraber: if current isn't good enough, you can airgap
[09:22] <Chipaca> stgraber: but that's brittle
[09:23] <Chipaca> stgraber: before eoy the random versions should go away, but maybe also the versions go away from the filesystem (replaced by revisions), I don't know
[09:31] <longsleep> Good morning snappy
[09:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Deviled Egg Day! 😃
[10:15] <Chipaca> this coffee smells like strawberries and cream
[10:15] <Chipaca> my senses are so confused
[10:17] <Chipaca> ogra_: you around?
[10:17] <ogra_> pretty much, yeah :)
[10:19] <Chipaca> ogra_: what's the thing that does the thing?
[10:19] <Chipaca> :D
[10:19] <ogra_> we call it the thing
[10:19] <Chipaca> ogra_: the handling of config files changed on upgrade
[10:20] <ogra_> sabdfl, mailman -> barry, mail system -> probably lamont
[10:20] <ogra_> Chipaca, how
[10:21] <Chipaca> ogra_: i understood you to say last week, that for individual writable /etc files, we have special magic that handles upgrades
[10:21] <ogra_> right, in the initrd
[10:22] <ogra_> sync_dirs() and handle_writable_paths() in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/ubuntu-core-rootfs
[10:23] * Chipaca looks
[10:23] <ogra_> the prob is that we can not use that setup with /etc/writable/ because these files are usually having local changes
[10:24] <Chipaca> ogra_: ah, wait, so the problem is that we don't handle local changes at all?
[10:24] <ogra_> if you would blindly upgrade they would always be replaced by the defaults
[10:24] <Chipaca> eep
[10:24] <ogra_> so we do never upgrade the files in /etc/writable
[10:24] <Chipaca> so the problem isn't /etc/writable
[10:24] <Chipaca> the problem is that we don't 3-way merge
[10:24] <Chipaca> at all
[10:24] <ogra_> the problem is the concept
[10:24] <ogra_> right
[10:25] <Chipaca> and for some things, that is entirely correct
[10:25] <ogra_> there isnt really a proper way to do that since we dont really have one specific syntax in configs
[10:25] <Chipaca> so our problem is that for some things it isn't
[10:25] <ogra_> so you would need a handler with 100s of plugins or something to handle all 3 way cases
[10:26] <ogra_> right
[10:26] <Chipaca> or, not expose the raw config files
[10:26] <Chipaca> (which is something we want to do)
[10:26] <ogra_> up to now we only used files in /etc7writable that are definitely local only config files
[10:26] <Chipaca> now [10:26] <ogra_> like hostname, localtime and timezone
[10:27] <ogra_> well, it is the only dir where atomic changes are possible
[10:27] <Chipaca> yes, but again, the problem isn't atomic changes or not, it's the 3-way merge
[10:27] <ogra_> well, not the only one, but the only one in etc
[10:27] <Chipaca> so even if we drop atomic writes, we still have the problem
[10:32] <ogra_> Chipaca, on the phone we have upgrade handlers in upstart jobs, so you can handle the minimal and most important caees at least ... i dont think anyone ported that part to snappy ever
[10:33] <Chipaca> ogra_: and the phone doesn't do rollbacks
[10:33] <ogra_> right
[10:33] <Chipaca> so
[10:33] <ogra_> for rollbacks you would need duplication of the files
[10:34] <Chipaca> how does this sound: first, we stop exposing raw config files through config, make config more semantic (already a bug for this). Then, we store that config somewhere, and regenerate the config files from there on new core version
[10:34] <ogra_> (and a still three way merge boot handler i guess)
[10:34] <ogra_> *still a
[10:34] <Chipaca> does that sound right?
[10:34] <ogra_> well, that means you will need one handler for each config file
[10:35] <Chipaca> we already do have that
[10:35] <ogra_> thesy will all differ in format
[10:35] <ogra_> for system configs ?
[10:35] <Chipaca> but they're just stupid :) -- we need to make them smarter
[10:35] <Chipaca> oh, yes
[10:35] <Chipaca> here, let me link ya
[10:35] <Chipaca> ogra_: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/coreconfig/config.go
[10:36] <ogra_> oh, well
[10:36] <Chipaca> most of them just call get/setPassthrough, which just writes it out
[10:36] <ogra_> right
[10:36] <ogra_> if you want to modify content you will need a function per config file
[10:37] <Chipaca> but i'd rather fix those, than write a 3-way-merge handler for each case, which i deem harder-to-impossible
[10:37] <ogra_> but even tthen you would need a config file per rootfs
[10:37] <Chipaca> "a config file per rootfs"?
[10:37] <ogra_> unless you want to re-write them on going back and forward all the time
[10:37] <ogra_> yes, you need a writable/a and a writable/b
[10:37] <Chipaca> yes
[10:38] <Chipaca> or rewrite them every time, yes
[10:38] <ogra_> well, rather not
[10:38] <Chipaca> i'm fine with either
[10:39] <ogra_> so if you have writable/a|b it means you need to copy the contents during upgrade ....
[10:39] <ogra_> but you dont want to copy all the payload data
[10:40] <ogra_> which means the upgrade mechanism needs to become more intelligent
[10:41] <ogra_> Chipaca, for the three way merge we should probably look at ucf
[10:41] <Chipaca> so, on rollback/upgrade, you'd call (say), snappy internal config-regen
[10:41] <ogra_> it already handles exqactly that
[10:41] <Chipaca> will do
[10:42] <ogra_> (and it is preinstalled)
[10:42] <Chipaca> wrt config-regen, whether that happens during the install process itself (ie before reboot), or after it (during boot), that's the thing i'm not worried about
[10:42] <Chipaca> ogra_: but ucf drops back to being interactive
[10:42] <Chipaca> doesn't it?
[10:42] <ogra_> you can avoid that
[10:43] <ogra_> (and force stuff, which can indeed be risky but i dont see a way around forcing if you want to exclude interaction)
[10:44] <ogra_> i would actually like to have the handling before the reboot
[10:44] <ogra_> if there is a lot to handle your first boot after upgrade might be painfully slow
[10:45] <ogra_> better handle it when you actually expect the upgrade to take time anyway, because you ran the upgrade command
[10:45] <Chipaca> true
[10:45] <Chipaca> note it'd have to be the new snappy, but that's easily doable fwiw
[10:45] <Chipaca> anyway. Lots of work.
[10:45] <ogra_> yep
[10:46] <Chipaca> ogra_: sounds like we move forward with using /etc/writable for everything, and handle merges "soon"
[10:46] <Chipaca> ogra_: is that accurate?
[10:47] <ogra_> well, i'D prefer if we wouldnt use /etc/writable
[10:47] <Chipaca> tell me more
[10:47] <ogra_> it means that the file needs to be maintained in a far more complex way at image build time
[10:48] <ogra_> /etc/system-image/writable-paths is a single one liner
[10:48] <ogra_> while the livecd-rootfa handling of /etc/writable means scripting for each file
[10:49] <ogra_> it was never throught as a general solution
[10:49] <ogra_> but as an exception for the few files that need atomic writing in a normal ubuntu system
[10:51] <Chipaca> how hard is that to fix? ie replacing the scripting-for-each-file with a general solution? maybe i can help?
[10:52] * Chipaca fetches livecd-rootfs, prepares his stomach
[10:52] <ogra_> well, the fact that we make ourselves 100% depending on livecd-rootfs hacks bothers me here
[10:52] <ogra_> a new image build system will need exactly the same hacks
[10:52] <ogra_> i'd really like us to get away from that instead of adding more to it
[10:54] <Chipaca> ah, i hadn't understood
[10:54] <Chipaca> i thought the handling of /etc/s-i/w-p was in livecd-rootfs
[10:54] <ogra_> no, thats in the initrd
[10:54] <Chipaca> if it's in s-i, maybe the other can be addressed there too
[10:54] <ogra_> in the script above
[10:54] <Chipaca> ah
[10:54] <Chipaca> forgot to look at the thing that was getting that
[10:54] <ogra_> (which is technically s-i client side :) )
[10:55] <ogra_> it parses writable-paths and creates the mounts and all
[10:55] <ogra_> (and fstab entries for the dirs that systemd should handle (everythin but /etc))
[10:58] <Chipaca> ah, the problem just hit me
[10:58] <Chipaca> initrd can't fix the /etc/writable usage because it can't create the symlinks
[10:58] <Chipaca> dumb me
[10:59] <ogra_> Chipaca, technically everything in here is a hack and shouold go away for a future build system http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/files/head:/live-build/ubuntu-core/hooks/
[10:59] <ogra_> and /etc/writable is currently handled in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-core/hooks/08-etc-writable.chroot .... the handling of /etc/default/watchdog just doubled the size of the script
[11:02] <ogra_> well, we could probably teach it to
[11:04] <ogra_> i,e, add a function just for handling that dir and have another table (/etc/system-image/atomic-files ) that has the link targets and filenames
[11:07] <Chipaca> ogra_: you mean, initrd mounts / rw, creates symlinks, remounts ro?
[11:08] <ogra_> yeah, after the sync_dirs and handle_writable_paths functions have run so that your /etc bindmount farm is already up
[11:08] <ogra_> (and /etc/writable is writable)
[11:08] <ogra_> it will indeed chak, if links exist it doesnt need to create them
[11:08] <ogra_> thats a one time think if a new file shows up
[11:08] <ogra_> *thing
[11:08] <ogra_> *check
[11:08] <ogra_> my go, my typing today
[11:09] <ogra_> *god
[11:09] * ogra_ needs new kbd soon
[11:14] <Chipaca> ogra_: fwiw every mountpoint we remove drops boot time on the bbb by .1--.2s
[11:19] <Chipaca> ogra_: http://people.canonical.com/~john/bbb.svg
[11:19] <Chipaca> ogra_: ( systemd-analyze plot > bbb.svg )
[11:19] <ogra_> err
[11:19] <ogra_> what is it doing these 17s ?
[11:20] <ogra_> (i wish we had kept bootchart around, it was able to show the initrd delays )
[11:20] <Chipaca> pondering the meaning of life
[11:20] <Chipaca> unpacking initrd?
[11:20] <ogra_> the etc mount units need to be removed
[11:21] <ogra_> for 17s ?!?
[11:21] <ogra_> if that takes 2s thats much
[11:21] <Chipaca> just booting the kernel, afaict
[11:21] <ogra_> i would like to know how much of that is actually kernel time and how much initrd
[11:22] <ogra_> and what exactly in the initrd makes it so super slow
[11:22] <Chipaca> ah, of course, all that is hidden in there :-(
[11:22] <Chipaca> maybe initrd needs to log events some how so they show up in this?
[11:23] <ogra_> what do etc-machine\x2did.mount and etc-systemd-system.mount do ?
[11:23] * Chipaca suspects he should have shown this plot to ogra_ a lot earlier
[11:23] <ogra_> heh, yeah
[11:24] <ogra_> 17s *before* systemd is realyl awful
[11:25] <Chipaca> etc-machine\x2did.mount is the mount for /etc/machine-id
[11:25] <ogra_> underneath local-fs-pre.target everything that starts with etc must go
[11:25] <Chipaca> $ systemd-escape -u 'etc-machine\x2did.mount'
[11:25] <Chipaca> etc/machine-id.mount
[11:25] <ogra_> we are handling these from initrd already
[11:25] <ogra_> ah, k, thats legit then
[11:26] <Chipaca> and etc-systemd-system.mount is the /etc/systemd/system mount unit
[11:27] <ogra_> right, thats already mounted
[11:28] <ogra_> andthing starting with /etc from /etc/system-image/writable-paths is handled first from the initrd now ... bypassing fstab so that we have it available immediately if we switch to systemd
[11:28] <ogra_> *anything
[11:29] <ogra_> so the systemd usnits need to go to not duplicate that
[11:29] <Chipaca> ogra_: so that's why we're getting those warnings, i'd bet
[11:30] <Chipaca> i mean things like “var-lib-snappy.mount: Directory /var/lib/snappy to mount over is not empty, mounting anyway.”
[11:30] <ogra_> soo ... 100s boot time ... 50 s are clout-init hogging the hwarware
[11:30] <ogra_> no
[11:30] <ogra_> thats because the readonly dir isnt empty :)
[11:30] <ogra_> var gets handled by fstab
[11:30] <ogra_> and the readonly dir has the original content still
[11:31] <ogra_> if you get them for any /etc dir, that would be wron though
[11:31] <ogra_> because that should be handled before systemd starts
[11:32] <Chipaca> ogra_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13081516/
[11:32] <ogra_> why the heck do we create 15 ram devices ?
[11:32] <ogra_> nothing uses them
[11:33] <ogra_> Chipaca, yeah, all the etc- ones need to go
[11:33] <Chipaca> i don't know if i should be glad you now know how to create these plots, or concerned you now have something new to obsess over :-)
[11:34] <ogra_> oh, i know how to call systemd --analyze :) i just dont do it often
[11:34] <Chipaca> ah, ok
[11:35] <Chipaca> ogra_: also: systemd-analyze blame
[11:35] <ogra_> it should be part of your tests to run systemd --analyze once on a virgin image before the testing starts
[11:35] <ogra_> *our
[11:37] <ogra_> well, that chart shows how bad the cloud-init impact is ... half of the boot time is eaten by it
[11:38] <ogra_> cloud-init-local.service (17.575s) ....cloud-init.service (13.563s) ....cloud-config.service (10.547s) ...cloud-final.service (9.292s)
[11:38] <ogra_> sums up to ~50s
[11:38] <ogra_> sigh
[11:38] <ogra_> i wish we could drop it and have specific cloud rootfses
[11:39] <Chipaca> ogra_: we can
[11:39] <Chipaca> ogra_: it's just work :)
[11:39] <ogra_> generating ssh keys should be part of the upgrade ... what else does it do ?
[11:40] <Chipaca> isn't cloud-init the thing copying the public key so you can ssh in on first boot?
[11:40] <ogra_> you mean in --developer-mode ?
[11:40] <Chipaca> yes
[11:40] <ogra_> i think u-d-f copies it in place, doesnt it ?
[11:41] <ogra_> it definitely generates host keys ...
[11:41] <ogra_> (which takes a while and shouldnt be part of the first boot but of the upgrade procesS)
[11:42] <Chipaca> udf copies the public keys to a place cloud-init picks them up from
[11:42] <ogra_> only on a real first boot we shoudl generate them, but thats still faster done without cloud-init
[11:42] <Chipaca> why generate host keys on upgrade?
[11:42] <ogra_> ah, well, so a simple [ -e $keypath ] || cp $keypath $keytarget
[11:43] <ogra_> oh, right, we dont want to change them
[11:43] <ogra_> well, still i bet you can do that in less than 50s :)
[11:43] <ogra_> (and in parallel while the rest of the boot runs)
[11:45] <Chipaca> i thought sshd already does generate its own keys on startup
[11:45] <Chipaca> not sure why cloud init is doing that at all
[11:45] <ogra_> the deb does :)
[11:45] <Chipaca> ah, on install?
[11:45] <ogra_> from its postinst
[11:45] <Chipaca> right
[11:45] <ogra_> right
[11:45] <ogra_> so you would have the same key everywhere
[11:47] <ogra_> looking at that chart i woder who said systemd boots faster than upstart :P
[11:47] <ogra_> ubuntu-snappy.grub-migrate.service (2.174s)
[11:47] <ogra_> heh
[11:48] <ogra_> we should omit that on non grub systems :)
[11:49] <Chipaca> person 1: “systemd boots x% faster than sysv!” person 2..N: “systemd boots faster”
[11:49] <Chipaca> person N then goes on to implement 'snappy init', and the rest is history
[11:49] <ogra_> haha
[11:50] <ogra_> well, i really liked upstart and bootchart :)
[11:50] <Chipaca> i'd expect snappy init to have a suspiciously upstart-ish feel to it :-)
[11:50] <ogra_> systemd-analyze only gets me half the info bootchart did (CPU and disk utilization were most important)
[11:51] <ogra_> (i.e. the graphs at the top that bootchart generates)
[11:52] <ogra_> i also dont think doing fine grained ordering o funits is possible like it was in upstart
[11:54] <ogra_> systemd just tries to bluntly run everything in parallel ... thats probably fine if you have an SSD, lots of ram and CPU power ... but definitely not on low end systems
[11:55] <ogra_> ... where you actually need to trade your IO and move jobs into IO gaps etc
[11:58] <Chipaca> ogra_: well, there is systemd-bootchart
[11:59] <ogra_> yeah, i still have to try it, it needs to live in the initrd which makes it a bit awkward to use in snappy
[13:35] <ogra_> Chipaca, so our executive summary of the above: i look into moving /etc/writable handling into initrd, you look into 3 way merge integration in snappy config ?
[13:36] <Chipaca> ogra_: that sounds accurate. Although my "looking into" starts with "seek approval for"
[13:36] <ogra_> heh
[13:43] <davidcalle> ogra_, ping
[13:43] <ogra_> Chipaca, bug 1512361 for /etc/writable
[13:43] <ogra_> davidcalle, shoot
[13:44] <davidcalle> ogra_, will we see the raspi2 image in http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ ? Or will it stay at "http://people.canonical.com/~platform/snappy/raspberrypi2/" ?
[13:44] <ogra_> davidcalle, once it is build like the others it shoudl show up in the official download space
[13:44] <ogra_> *built
[13:45] <davidcalle> ogra_, any eta?
[13:45] <ogra_> i was hoping next stable release ... no promises though
[13:45] <ogra_> i'll take care to update the linking
[13:45] <davidcalle> ogra_, actual question is... can we drop the "not official" bits on https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/raspberry-pi-2/
[13:45] <ogra_> yes
[13:46] <ogra_> we should still have instructions how to create a rolling image though
[13:48] <davidcalle> ogra_, cool, thanks :)
[13:50] <ogra_> mvo, elopio, you guys invalidated all snappy bugs in LP, i dont think we can do that, they need an upstream task and point to the github issue instead, else we cant milestone them anymore and they will vanish from all the lists
[13:51] <ogra_> (i.e. they should get downstream tasks in LP)
[13:53] <elopio> ogra_: that was the proposed plan, they are now in milestones in github.
[13:53] <mvo> ogra_: we did ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy looks pretty normal here. what am I missing?
[13:53] <ogra_> elopio, that doesnt work
[13:53] <ogra_> we maintain the milestone lists in LP
[13:54] <ogra_> and as i understood sabdfl he wants to keep bug maintenance in LP ... so we nee downstream bugs there
[13:54] <elopio> ogra_: for snapcraft at least, the plan is to maintian the milestones in github.
[13:54] <ogra_> hmm, k, was that approved ?
[13:55] <ogra_> for snappy releases we cant move it over unless we move all the rest too
[13:55] <sabdfl> it was a valid suggestion at the time, but i have asked that we keep bug management in LP for now
[13:55] <sabdfl> we can sync git to LP for bug integration, i believe
[13:55] <sabdfl> i.e. bug closure through commit messages
[13:55] <ogra_> right, thats what i meant with upstream tasks
[13:55] <elopio> and yeah, that message about maintaining bugs in launchpad came after gustavo told us to use github bugs. Which makes sense, because the code is for closing bugs, that we couldn't relate easily if they are kept in launchpad.
[13:56] <sabdfl> gustavo has the right idea of course, and i hope he'll forgive my bdfl'ing ;)
[13:56] <ogra_> elopio, sure, niemeyer's concept makes sense but if we do the master management for the project in LP they need to be linked up
[13:56] <elopio> anything works for me. I would prefer to file bugs only once, and to have them closer to the code.
[13:57] <ogra_> since snappy is onnly one component of the snappy project here
[13:57] <ogra_> elopio, thats what i meant when i started the discussion ;)
[13:57] <elopio> but if the plan changes, I can revert the bugs.
[13:57] <ogra_> we force ourselves into more work/duplication here
[13:57] <elopio> ogra_: btw, we just did the full bug migration for snapcraft.
[13:58] <sabdfl> elopio, that's what caught me by surprise, i think we're being over-enthusiastic in adoption of github
[13:58] <sabdfl> your colleagues colin watson and co are working hard to add git support to LP, for example
[13:58] <sabdfl> and the bug tracking in LP is considered better than GH, at least for OpenStack purposes
[13:58] <ogra_> well, it is upstream bugs vs project bugs ...
[13:58] <elopio> as far as I understand, the plan is to do the same for snappy, the go package. For snappy the project, related to ubuntu-core-config and stuff like that, I think we'll keep bugs in launchpad.
[13:59] <ogra_> i think it is fine to maintain the snappy (tool) upstream bugs in github if desired ... but project mgmt still happens in LP
[13:59] <elopio> but again, I'm just following the plan from last week.
[13:59] <sabdfl> let's not confuse things more than necessary, and thank you ogra but i'll decide what's fine by me ;)
[13:59] <ogra_> heh, k :)
[14:00] * ogra_ just tries to please both sides :)
[14:00] <elopio> sabdfl: it made me a little sad to move away from launchpad, because I like it, it's free software and all...
[14:00] <elopio> but, with a week of being in github we are already starting to get nice things, like travis and coveralls integration.
[14:00] <sabdfl> that's fine for the code, enjoy
[14:00] <sabdfl> and please put your happy face on for the free software and all ... ;)
[14:00] <elopio> also, I think I've heard three of our external contributors saying: "yay github!"
[14:01] <sabdfl> yay github
[14:01] <sabdfl> can we move on please? thank you
[14:02] <elopio> http://ur1.ca/o84zl ;)
[14:05] <sabdfl> bazinga
[14:05] <ogra_> lol
[14:31] <elopio> Chipaca: plars: I got ip4 in bbb.
[14:31] <ogra_> yay
[14:31] <elopio> the test is running in the lab.
[14:32] <plars> elopio: awesome, was there a fix that went in to intentionally correct it?
[14:32] <plars> elopio: oh, no it's not... see my email :(
[14:32] <plars> elopio: MAJOR outage in taipei right now I'm afaid :(
[14:32] <elopio> plars: yes, Chipaca worked on it last week.
[14:32] <Chipaca> week before
[14:32] <elopio> plars: ok, I'll wait.
[14:32] <plars> Chipaca++
[14:32] <plars> elopio: it will queue up in SPI and run if/when things come back to life
[14:33] <Chipaca> last week we sat around waiting for it to land on the images, which got slowed down over the move to gh
[14:33] <ogra_> Chipaca, we need to make a decision what to do with interface names in rolling
[14:33] <Chipaca> ogra_: why?
[14:33] <ogra_> for stable we force them into being "eth0"
[14:33] <ogra_> or ethX
[14:33] <ogra_> in rolling we dont yet
[14:34] <ogra_> (via the net.ifnames=0 cmdline option)
[14:34] <ogra_> if we allow non ethX names we need to take that into account in snappy config
[14:35] <Chipaca> ogra_: where do we restrict to ethX names in snappy config?
[14:35] <Chipaca> i know snappy firstboot doesn't
[14:35] <Chipaca> (because i wrote it :) )
[14:35] <ogra_> Chipaca, in the kernel commandline we set net.ifnames=0 ... in stable only
[14:35] <ogra_> which forces the old device naming scheme
[14:36] <ogra_> we dont do that in rolling yet ... which means we'll end up with the new names
[14:36] <Chipaca> ogra_: yes, but that's been the case since the austin sprint at least
[14:36] <ogra_> (worst case a full mac address as name)
[14:36] <Chipaca> we've been getting ens3 in kvm since then
[14:36] <ogra_> ah, and it is handled fine ?
[14:37] <ogra_> i know on arm we dont get such a friendly name
[14:37] <Chipaca> to the point you didn't know :)
[14:37] <Chipaca> the bbb still gets eth0 for its ethernet port
[14:37] <ogra_> (at least on rpi it will be the mac)
[14:37] <Chipaca> speaking of which, have you set aside a bit of time to make the bbb oem for rolling bring up the options with the right args?
[14:37] <Chipaca> (or should i do it)
[14:37] <ogra_> yeah, the bbb has a native NIC ... rpi has a USB one
[14:38] <Chipaca> bbb has both
[14:38] <ogra_> which options exactly ?
[14:39] <Chipaca> gah
[14:39] <Chipaca> ogra_: what was the name of the module on the bbb that made the usb connection (the one you use to charge) also be a serial port and an ethernet device and on and on?
[14:40] <ogra_> oh,, that stuff !
[14:40] <ogra_> cdc_acm or cdc_composite
[14:41] <Chipaca> hmm, i think that wasn't it
[14:41] <ogra_> acm blocks the port and claims it exclusively for serial, composite allows multi usage (serial and usbnet for example)
[14:41] <Chipaca> but with that i can find it in the channel log
[14:41] <ogra_> they shoudl both be there as modules
[14:42] <Chipaca> g_multi
[14:42] <Chipaca> sudo modprobe g_multi bcdDevice=0 cdrom=N file=/dev/mmcblk0p1 host_addr=D0:5F:B8:A3:92:81 iManufacturer=Circuitco iProduct=BeagleBoneBlack iSerialNumber=C0-3614BBBK6053 idProduct=0 idVendor=0 luns=0 nofua=Y num_buffers=2 qmult=5 removable=Y stall=N
[14:42] <ogra_> (RaspberryPi2)ubuntu@rpi2:~$ find /lib/modules/ -name '*cdc*'|grep usb
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc_ncm.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc_ether.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc_eem.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc-phonet.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc_mbim.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc_subset.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/net/usb/huawei_cdc_ncm.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/usb/class/cdc-wdm.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> /lib/modules/4.2.0-1008-raspi2/kernel/drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.ko
[14:42] <ogra_> (sorry for the spam)
[14:42] <Chipaca> right, but this is the beebeeb
[14:43] <ogra_> should be the same kernel config
[14:43] <Chipaca> you're going to make me take it out and plug it in, aren't you
[14:43] <Chipaca> so evil
[14:43] <ogra_> haha
[14:44] <ogra_> hmm, no ppisati ... i'D love to know why composite isnt enabled
[14:44] <ogra_> nor serial
[14:44] <ogra_> and searching for "gadget2 doesnt reveal anything either
[14:44] <ogra_> *gadget
[14:46] <ogra_> neither g_serial is there
[14:46] <ogra_> hmpf
[14:47] <ogra_> doesnt look like gadget support is enabled at all in any of our kernels
[14:50] <Chipaca> ogra_: it does have cdc_ether, but loading it does nothing (and no options)
[14:50] <ogra_> Chipaca, i'm happy to implement it, but i need support from the kernel team first
[14:50] <Chipaca> ogra_: OTOH, g_multi brings up usb0 no problem
[14:50] <ogra_> yeah, cdc_ether is the PC side ... you want g_ether
[14:50] <Chipaca> ogra_: and that is what the debian it ships with does
[14:50] <ogra_> or g_multi or g_composite
[14:51] <Chipaca> right, so we do have g_multi, and it works as above
[14:51] <Chipaca> what is missing?
[14:51] <ogra_> i would assume we want that enabled in general on all devices
[14:51] <Chipaca> those parameters seem to be very device-dependent, to me
[14:51] <ogra_> and a snappy config option to turn it on/off
[14:51] <Chipaca> even skipping the i* ones
[14:52] <ogra_> g_multi is definitely a generic kernel module
[14:52] <ogra_> it shoudl work on anything that has a usb host port
[14:52] <ogra_> including x86 hardware
[14:52] <Chipaca> *shock*
[14:53] <Chipaca> ogra_: nice to know :)
[14:53] <ogra_> module options are indeed device specific and should come from the device tarball
[14:53] <sergiusens> Chipaca, mvo so DST explains why we missed some US folk ;-)
[14:53] <ogra_> oh yeah, can we please move that meeting :)
[14:54] <Chipaca> if you move it, make it at least +2h, not just +1h
[14:54] <Chipaca> please :)
[14:54] <ogra_> yeah
[14:54] * ogra_ likes to have it at the start or the end of the day ... currently it is an interruption in the middle of my day
[14:55] <ogra_> and we force USians to realyl get up early
[15:01] <Chipaca> I'm +1 to doing it at 9:30z also
[15:01] <Chipaca> agreed then \o/
[15:07] <Chipaca> ogra_: why is there /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.d ?
[15:07] <Chipaca> ogra_: on purpose, or is that a double-mount-oopie?
[15:07] <Chipaca> oopsie*
[15:08] <ogra_> loks like a bug
[15:11] <Chipaca> ogra_: but the nice kind of bug
[15:11] <Chipaca> like a pretty butterfly
[15:11] <Chipaca> that flies past
[15:11] <ogra_> heh
[15:11] <Chipaca> and lands on SOMEBODY ELSE'S PLATE
[15:11] <Chipaca> \o/
[15:19] * elopio upgrades to wily with one hand, and to x with the other. Fearless.
[15:24] <sergiusens> Chipaca, ogra_ +2 is just at my lunch time though and a no go for mvo
[15:24] <ogra_> so we want 1h ?
[15:31] <Chipaca> pindonga: i haven't tried that though :)
[15:31] <pindonga> Chipaca, like have both read/write from that server/
[15:31] <pindonga> ?
[15:32] <Chipaca> like the transmission snap listens for torrent files on a certain port
[15:32] <Chipaca> or dbus endpoint
[15:33] <Chipaca> or sth
[15:33] * Chipaca 's handwaving intensifies
[15:37] <sergiusens> pindonga, Chipaca the other solution is maybe just put it all in the same snap? Create a product instead of just sw packages ;-)
[15:37] <Chipaca> yes
[15:37] <pindonga> sergiusens, so much for reusability :/
[15:38] <pindonga> but ok
[15:38] <sergiusens> pindonga, you reuse the sources ;-)
[15:38] <sergiusens> pindonga, this is no different from how you do it on a phone
[15:39] <Chipaca> ogra_: shouldn't the bbb have writable /etc/modules-load.d/<something> already?
[15:39] <pindonga> on the phone I could probably use the media hub to store the files, couldn't i?
[15:39] <sergiusens> pindonga, right, and reusability, why does venv exist?
[15:39] <sergiusens> :-)
[15:39] <pindonga> what do you mean?
[15:39] <Chipaca> pindonga: he's trying to be mean
[15:40] <pindonga> I meant, someone already packaged transmission, fought apparmor, etc
[15:40] <pindonga> now I need to do that all over again
[15:40] <pindonga> and if I wanted to use deluge instead of transmission, all over again
[15:40] <sergiusens> pindonga, oh, then you want to write a content sharing framework, maybe called, content-hub ;-)
[15:41] <pindonga> aka fs?
[15:41] <pindonga> :)
[15:41] <sergiusens> pindonga, I defer to jdstrand
[15:41] * pindonga understands the underlying reasons
[15:42] <pindonga> maybe we could introduce the concept of data volumes?
[15:42] <pindonga> that snaps can bind-mount or something?
[15:42] <pindonga> otherwise, you'd get the same issue with a music player
[15:43] <pindonga> the player would have to implement nfs/smb/whatever to get access to the files to play
[15:43] <pindonga> instead of just focusing on playing those files
[15:48] <ogra_> Chipaca, in stable it surely should ...
[15:48] <Chipaca> ogra_: ah, this is rolling. not in rolling then?
[15:52] <ogra_> might be missing there, i have to check
[15:53] <Chipaca> 'ppreciated
[15:54] <ogra_> add /etc/modules-load.d to writable dirs (LP: #1496419)
[15:54] <ogra_> hmm, thats in both, wily and xenial
[15:54] <ogra_> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/221767581/ubuntu-core-config_0.6.29_0.6.30.diff.gz
[15:57] <ogra_> Chipaca, so rolling shoudl be fine
[16:34] <snappy_> any1 get mir running on snappy edge?
[16:37] <elopio> snappy_: tedg is working on that. The snap is not ready.
[16:37] <tedg> elopio: Not me, that's a kgunn thing.
[16:38] <tedg> You've confused your Texans ;-)
[16:43] <tedg> Okay, I've managed to confuse myself with git.
[16:43] <tedg> I made a branch "aws-iot" the updated version got pushed to the snapcraft repo, which wasn't what I wanted.
[16:43] <tedg> So I'd like to now merge it into my fork of snap craft.
[16:44] <tedg> How do I merge from "ubuntu-core/snapcraft/aws-iot" to "ted-gould/snapcraft/aws-iot"
[16:44] <tedg> I feel like Github is obfuscating Git who wasn't clear to begin with.
[16:45] <ogra_> just bzr merge ... oh, wait ... :P
[16:47] <tedg> I do find the "you've got the whole repo" thing confusing. Not sure why they did that.
[16:50] <sergiusens> mvo, is there a way to know before hand what apt.Cache.fetch_archives will fetch?
[16:50] <sergiusens> tedg, git push to the correct remote
[16:51] <sergiusens> tedg, git remote add sergiusens [email protected]:sergiusens/snapcraft.git
[16:51] <sergiusens> tedg, git remote add ted [email protected]:tedgould/snapcraft.git
[16:52] <tedg> sergiusens: I don't want to push, I want to update my branch, I need to pull?
[16:52] <sergiusens> tedg, git push ted
[16:52] <sergiusens> tedg, with what is in the upstream repo?
[16:52] <tedg> sergiusens: yes
[16:52] <tedg> Specifically the aws-iot branch
[16:55] <sergiusens> tedg, git fetch origin; git merge [origin/branch] (or something like that)
[16:56] <sergiusens> tedg, I knew I gave you 'write' too early ;-)
[16:56] <tedg> That's what I can't figure out :-) The syntax for branches on remotes.
[16:56] <tedg> Heh, yes!
[16:57] <sergiusens> tedg, all your branches are in ubuntu-core instead of 'ted'
[16:57] <sergiusens> tedg, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/branches
[16:58] <snappy_> Chipaca: do you have mir working w/ spice?
[16:59] <mvo> sergiusens: sort of but not really as it depends on the server, in apt experiemtnal this is better. I need to leave for hockey, but we can talk later or tomorrow
[17:01] <tedg> sergiusens: No, some are.
[17:01] <Chipaca> snappy_: me, personally? i haven't checked in ages
[17:02] <tedg> snappy_: Yeah, I do.
[17:08] <snappy_> tedg: Chipaca: what changes do I need to make to get mir running w/ spice in kvm?
[17:10] <snappy_> tedg: Chipaca: is there a tutorial anywhere?
[17:14] <Chipaca> snappy_: use virt-manager, set video driver to "spice"
[17:19] <snappy_> Chipaca: when i run clocks demo, I get an 'connection to Mir server failed' error
[17:19] <Chipaca> snappy_: do you get a black screen and a pointer?
[17:20] <snappy_> Chipaca: no. nothing shows after i install mir
[17:20] <Chipaca> snappy_: running with virt-manager, using the spice video driver thing?
[17:22] <snappy_> Chipaca: hm. I was starting using kvm command in terminal. I'll try virt-manager. thx
[17:25] <Chipaca> snappy_: all virt-manager does, supposedly, is set options on kvm. But I gave up trying to use kvm directly for this.
[17:30] <tedg> Yeah, no tutorial I know of, but virt-manager usage.
[17:31] <tedg> QXL as well.
[17:35] <tedg> Okay, I got the branch, now I can't push :-(
[17:35] <tedg> Git makes me sad
[17:35] <ogra_> until you understand it ... then bzr makes you sad it seems
[17:36] <ogra_> (at least thats what i see from others :) )
[17:36] <tedg> Others make me sad
[17:36] <ogra_> lol
[17:45] <sergiusens> mvo, sure, go ahead; I was looking into using a common download location for each part, but I need to keep track of what go downloaded
[17:45] <sergiusens> if context helps :-)
[17:48] <snappy_> Chipaca: I dont see the black screen and pointer on virt-manager with spice server. Any suggestions?
[17:52] <Chipaca> snappy_: check the mir service log
[18:00] <snappy_> Chipaca: ubuntu-core-launcher mir_demo_server: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found (required by mir_demo_server)
[18:04] <Chipaca> snappy_: there ya go then
[18:05] <snappy_> Chipaca: it works in older version of snappy. Do I need to add lib to snap?
[18:06] <Chipaca> tedg: wasn't there a lovely libc abi breakage in ~wily?
[18:24] <snappy_> Chipaca: how to fix?
[18:30] <tedg> Chipaca: Not libc, libstdc++
[18:31] <tedg> snappy_: You probably want to build with either vivid or remove libstdc++ from the blocked list.
[18:31] <tedg> We need to revise that in snapcraft
[18:32] <tedg> In the end, you want to be carrying your own version of libstdc++
[18:37] <snappy_> tedg: chipaca: ok thanks. How do i remove from blocked list? If i build in vivid, do I need to compile mir.snap ?
[18:46] <Chipaca> snappy_: what're you building in vivid?
[18:52] <snappy_> Chipaca: libstdc++
[18:52] <Chipaca> snappy_: why would you do that?
[18:53] <ogra_> to ship the binary in the snap
[18:54] <ogra_> though i guess you could just use the deb one in LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[18:56] <Chipaca> but then they'd have to ship libc also
[18:56] <Chipaca> and libnss
[18:56] <Chipaca> the whole thing
[18:57] <ogra_> yep
[18:57] <ogra_> we'll need that anyway :)
[18:57] <ogra_> as snapcraft setup
[19:21] <snappy_> Chipaca: do u know an easier way?
[19:22] <snappy_> Chipaca: to get mir?
[19:23] <Chipaca> snappy_: you've got the mir snap, right?
[19:24] <Chipaca> snappy_: and it's not working because the libc++ abi in your snappy system is different from the abi of the package
[19:24] <Chipaca> snappy_: that's a problem you _shouldn't_ have, but you do; apologies
[19:25] <davmor2> Chipaca: there were incompatible gcc in wily, between 4.7 in vivid and 5.x in wily if that is the abi break you are on about
[19:25] <Chipaca> snappy_: have you tried a different version snappy system? I haven't looked into this at all, but maybe it'll work in 15.04?
[19:25] <Chipaca> snappy_: or if you're in 15.04, maybe rolling works?
[19:25] <Chipaca> i know tedg has been working with mir and hasn't mentioned this problem
[19:31] <snappy_> Chipaca: hmm.... ill try and see if i can get a different result thx
[19:40] <snappy_> Chipaca: I was able to get a different version of mir to work!
[19:40] <Chipaca> snappy_: there are different versions?
[19:40] <Chipaca> packaged i mean?
[19:40] <snappy_> Chipaca: no... i compiled one
[19:40] <Chipaca> ah!
[19:41] <Chipaca> heh
[19:41] <snappy_> Chipaca: how do I fix socket configuration for clocks example?
[19:42] <snappy_> Chipaca: thx for help
[19:55] <tedg> Vivd should be find as long as you're using the 15.04 snappy.
[21:23] <kyrofa> Can ubuntu-device-flash be used to preload the image with snaps?
[21:24] <kyrofa> (or is there another way to do that?)
[21:25] <tedg> In theory that's what the gadget snap should do.
[21:25] <tedg> It should define which are the preloaded ones.
[21:26] <kyrofa> Ah, cool okay
[21:26] <kyrofa> tedg, does that actually include the specified snaps, or install them after deployment?
[21:39] <tedg> kyrofa: Not sure.
[22:20] <snappy_> Chipaca: To get socket working w/ snap, how to fix?
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-za
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[06:06] <Kilos> morning inetpro thatgraemeguy stucomplex and lurkers
[06:07] <thatgraemeguy> hi Kilos
[06:07] <thatgraemeguy> how's the recovery going?
[06:07] <Kilos> great ty thatgraemeguy
[06:08] <Kilos> only sneezes still hurt hehe
[06:08] <thatgraemeguy> stop sniffing pepper, problem solved! ;-p
[06:08] <thatgraemeguy> Maaz_: seen mazal
[06:08] <Maaz_> thatgraemeguy: mazal was last seen 6 days, 14 minutes and 41 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-10-26 22:54:01 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-10-26 23:37:50 PDT
[06:08] <thatgraemeguy> where is he hiding?
[06:09] <Kilos> oh my
[07:33] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:12] <superfly> hi
[08:24] <pieter2627> morning all
[08:31] <Kilos> hi superfly pieter2627 and my pro
[08:31] <Kilos> and MaNL
[08:34] <MaNI> morning
[08:34] <Sxuza> hey MaNI , morning
[08:49] <TinuvaMac> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/144477-arch-linux-install-on-twitch-gets-hijacked-by-gentoo-botnet.html
[08:49] <TinuvaMac> priceless
[08:51] <pieter2627> lol
[10:41] <MaNI> anyone know of any local manufacturers that do 'zero' clients?
[10:45] <inetpro> uh!?
[10:46] <inetpro> MaNI: a manufacturer making goods for itself?
[10:48] <MaNI> ideally sure, zero clients don't have much to them :p
[11:00] <MaNI> actually all I really need is a usb button lol
[13:20] <Cryterion> MaNI http://www.usbbutton.com/
[13:22] <MaNI> yeah basically, except importing one is a tad exorbitant, maybe I will just make one :(
[14:25] <magespawn> chat later
[18:42] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
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2015-11-02-#kubuntu-devel
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[07:37] <snele> sgclark: maybe rebuilding qtcurve in backports against new abi?
[09:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:01] <Riddell> hi prth
[10:33] <yofel> sgclark: QtCurve was our Gtk Theme before oxygen-gtk was a thing, so we did maintain it in the past. Some people might still use it if they kept upgrading
[10:33] <yofel> legacy cruft :/
[10:43] <snele> yofel: many kde users still use qtcurve themes for qt and gtk2 apps
[10:44] <Riddell> prth: I'm now your mentor, let's get coding!
[10:45] <snele> especially in kde4 because many people think that oxygen is ugly :D
[10:54] <soee> i'm using qtcurve on 15.10 :D
[11:06] <yofel> why is theme choice a thing
[11:06] <yofel> geeez xD
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:07] <ghostcube> any new ppa for new stuff in 15.10?
[13:09] <ghostcube> is the telepathy plugin for telegram available now?
[13:47] <Mamarok> since I didn't get a reaction on this:
[13:47] <Mamarok> we might have a packaging error for amarok 2.8.90, if I trust this guy https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323802#c18
[13:47] <Mamarok> amarok should drag in MySQL by default
[13:48] <Mamarok> and amarok should be removed if something else removes MySQL
[13:48] <Mamarok> so at least the user would get aware that this could cause havoc
[14:35] <sgclark> morning
[14:43] <mamarley> Hi sgclark, how are you doing this fine^S^S^S^Sdreary morning?
[14:44] <sgclark> still working on my first cup of coffee ask again in a few :)
[14:49] <sgclark> snele: yofel ok rebuilding, thanks
[14:55] <BluesKaj> morning sgclark, mamarley ...last coffee here...surprisingly very few crashes on 16.10 so far and any that do recover gracefully
[14:55] <mamarley> Even I am not quite that adventurous...
[14:55] <sgclark> heh me either
[14:56] <BluesKaj> well, I still have 14.104 as my main man
[14:56] <BluesKaj> err 14.04 even
[14:56] * mamarley 's desktops, laptops, and server are all on Wily.
[14:56] <lordievader> Haven't seem many crashes on 16.04 either, granted haven't used it very much either ;)
[14:57] <mamarley> It may be tempting to upgrade once kernel 4.3 or 4.4 is available though...
[15:07] <BluesKaj> on 16.04 as we speak, all is well so far
[15:08] <BluesKaj> think it's still mostly 15,10 underneath tho
[15:19] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Yeah, we are two weeks, or so, away from release ;)
[15:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, I have the schedule here
[15:46] <soee_> but there are noaany update sin 16.04 that touche frameworks, plsma or apps right ?
[15:55] <sgclark> not that I am aware of
[16:40] <sgclark> snele: yofel: mparillo trusty kwin-style-qtcurve needs test install in the trusty backports. When you have time. Thanks.
[17:01] <prth> Riddell, awesome \o/
[17:04] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-158-g1bfea77 * Aleix Pol: discover/qml/UpdatesPage.qml
[17:04] <pursuivant> Make it possible to keep track of updates after changing section
[17:04] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/1bfea77eaed972ba1c13aa60074e3bd82552e674
[17:04] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-159-g5338812 * Aleix Pol: discover/MuonDiscoverMainWindow.cpp
[17:04] <pursuivant> Fix actualWidth computation
[17:04] <pursuivant> Perform a floating point division rather than an integer one. Otherwise it
[17:04] <pursuivant> was discreet and there used to be jumps while resizing that looked glitchy.
[17:04] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/5338812387522d9ff625a849ec33558f1f6f0f08
[17:11] <Mirv> fyi the Tue-Thu UOS's Qt for 16.04 LTS session moved to Wed 14:00 UTC
[17:14] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-160-gb16a2a5 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/Category/CategoryModel.cpp
[17:14] <pursuivant> Fix CategoryModel initialization
[17:14] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/b16a2a5f454e458b9fc2a4a59870c50167dbe0d1
[17:51] <mparillo> sgclark: just aot install kwin-style-qtcurve
[17:52] <sgclark> mparillo: ?
[17:52] <sgclark> mparillo: yeah just install it
[17:52] <sgclark> see if it is still broken.
[17:52] <sgclark> have to update fisrt
[17:52] <sgclark> first...
[18:00] <marco-parillo> sg
[18:00] <marco-parillo> sgclark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13084128/
[18:01] <marco-parillo> Should I get so many removes?
[18:02] <sgclark> marco-parillo: those are pre-existing removes. I do believe it is from the move from nepomuk to baloo and are expected. I hope
[18:03] <sgclark> have nothing to do with kwin-style-qtcurve anyway.
[18:03] <marco-parillo> No errors on the update.
[18:03] <sgclark> yofel: when your around can you verify or deny the removals ^
[18:03] <sgclark> marco-parillo: great thanks for testing!
[18:04] <marco-parillo> My pleasure.
[18:45] <clivejo> My cert expired on my kolab server over the weekend, but fixed it yesterday. However Akonadi Resource is crashing over and over despite installing a new cert. Crash report is here https://paste.kde.org/pvibtrffj
[18:54] <clivejo> does anyone use ring on Kubuntu15.10?
[18:54] <sgclark> clivejo: that looks very much upstream. please file a bug on bugs.kde.org
[18:55] <sgclark> I dont
[18:55] <clivejo> looks like they dropped the kde client :(
[18:56] <clivejo> sgclark: Ive installed the debug symbols, hoping to get some more useful info
[19:04] <soee_> btw. the missing nm/plasma-pa icon bug might be related to QT, David posted this link today: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-48870
[21:24] <clivejo> how do I use gdb to get a good bug report?
[21:29] <sgclark> clivejo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Generation
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-br
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[00:00] <Guest6607> cara n to conseguindo esta la o wine no meu nootbook
[00:00] <Guest6607> notbook
[00:00] <manokara> hmm, nos conte mais
[00:00] <Guest6607> pela central de programas do ubunto da um erro
[00:00] <Guest6607> diz que nao to conectado a internet
[00:01] <Guest6607> mas qnd vou testar ta ok
[00:01] <manokara> então o wine está instalado?
[00:01] <Guest6607> não esta
[00:01] <Guest6607> pelo menos acho que n
[00:01] <Guest6607> na vdd vou novato no ubuntu rsrs
[00:01] <manokara> hmmm
[00:01] <Guest6607> como sei se ele ja esta instalado
[00:01] <Guest6607> ?
[00:01] <manokara> tenta instalar pelo terminal
[00:01] <manokara> talvez te de mais informações
[00:02] <manokara> Ctrl+Alt+T e depois digita sudo apt-get install wine
[00:02] <Guest6607> pode me passar o comando direitinho?
[00:02] <Guest6607> a vlw ^^
[00:03] <Guest6607> aparece assim
[00:03] <Guest6607> não foi possivel obter trava /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[00:03] <manokara> digitou o sudo no começo?
[00:04] <Guest6607> sim sim
[00:04] <manokara> ué
[00:04] <Guest6607> sudo apt-get install wine
[00:04] <Guest6607> acha que pode ser algo com a instalação?
[00:04] <manokara> qual é o resto dele erro? "open [...]"?
[00:04] <hggdh> feche a central de programas
[00:04] <manokara> h
[00:04] <manokara> ah
[00:04] <manokara> realmente
[00:05] <Guest6607> open(11: recurso temporariamente indisponivel)
[00:05] <Guest6607> tem outro erro abaixo
[00:05] <Guest6607> e assim
[00:05] <manokara> se a central de programas estiver aberta, ele trava o uso do apt-get
[00:05] <Guest6607> ata
[00:05] <Guest6607> perai deixa eu fechar aqui e testar
[00:06] <Guest6607> deu outra coisa
[00:07] <Guest6607> lendo lista de pacotes... pronto construindo arvore de dependencia lendo informação de estado...pronto
[00:07] <Guest6607> E: IMpossivel encontrar o pacote wine
[00:07] <manokara> hmm
[00:07] <Guest6607> danny@danny -300e4c- 300e7c
[00:07] <manokara> provavelmente você não está com os outros repositorios habilitados
[00:08] <manokara> aperta a bandeira do windows e digita "programas", vai aparecer algo como "programas e recursos"
[00:08] <Guest6607> por que ja fui naquela pesquisa e não aparece nada com wine
[00:08] <manokara> la vai ter uma aba escrito fontes. realmente não sei exato pq estou longe de casa e sem ubuntu
[00:09] <manokara> ou é "programas e atualizações", hmm
[00:09] <Guest6607> cara vc tem um link direto que possa baixar e instala n
[00:09] <manokara> mas aí vc ia ter que baixar as dependencias do wine uma por uma também :v
[00:10] <Guest6607> e eu tentei ficou pedindo o flex ou algo do tipo
[00:10] <Guest6607> ae vc's dao suporte assim de graça?
[00:10] <Guest6607> mesmo
[00:10] <Guest6607> ?
[00:10] <manokara> bom, é um canal livre para discussões e suporte
[00:10] <Guest6607> vc's tem grupo no whats ou algo do tipo
[00:11] <Guest6607> tenho muita vontate de migrar totalmente para o linux
[00:11] <Guest6607> ae sobre o probleminha aqui to tentando atualizar a versão do ubunto pra ver se sei la pode ser algo
[00:12] <astroo-> eu so dou 1 força mundo linux
[00:13] <Guest6607> estes usuarios aqui do lado e tudo galera que usa e
[00:13] <Guest6607> os cara dao uma ajuda tbm no suporte
[00:13] <Guest6607> ?
[00:14] <manokara> são usuários, ou apenas um pessoal que acompanha o linux, como o astro
[00:14] <Guest6607> e vc manokara
[00:14] <Guest6607> vc e o que
[00:14] <jotaerre89> | Guest6607 Na medida do possível, se alguém puder ajudar, ajudamos.
[00:14] <manokara> eu sou um mero usuário linux :p
[00:14] <Guest6607> trabalha realmente com ubuntu e tals
[00:14] <manokara> que no momento, está usando outra distro em seu pomposo notebook
[00:15] <manokara> todos os meus computadores só no linux
[00:15] <Guest6607> ah legal
[00:16] <manokara> renato, seguinte, arrumei uns comandos pra resolver esse pepino
[00:16] <Guest6607> gerencio um setor de T.I
[00:16] <manokara> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe
[00:16] <Guest6607> por conta de alguns bugs e virus
[00:16] <Guest6607> to pensando em migrar a impressa toda
[00:16] <manokara> Esse comando que mandei vai adicionar o repositorio universe
[00:16] <manokara> dai depois vc usa: sudo apt-get update
[00:17] <manokara> e depois, finalmente: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends wine
[00:17] <Guest6607> posso colocar este comando que vc mandou no terminal
[00:17] <manokara> e voilá!
[00:17] <Guest6607> nehr
[00:17] <Guest6607> flw vlw ae
[00:17] <manokara> seria uma boa migrar a empresa, linux é maravilhoso :)
[00:17] <manokara> mas é bom se informar direitinho e ir com calma
[00:18] <Guest6607> conserteza
[00:18] <Guest6607> alem do mais
[00:18] <Guest6607> e um treinamento enorme rsrs
[00:18] <manokara> sim, rs
[00:18] <Guest6607> com os usuarios que ja estao tao acostumados com windowns
[00:19] <manokara> daqui a uns tempos os funcionarios ja vão estar loucos digitando altos comandos no terminal! :o
[00:19] <Guest6607> ae mano vc's tem grupo de whats n?
[00:19] <Guest6607> ^^
[00:19] <manokara> não que eu saiba
[00:19] <Guest6607> a blz
[00:19] <Guest6607> entao
[00:21] <manokara> mas aí não vai ser só mudança de SO. wine não faz milagres, seria bom procurar alternativas nativas e converter todo o processo
[00:21] <Guest6607> e que nosso ERP hoje n oferece suporte para versoes de OS linux
[00:22] <Guest6607> manokara
[00:22] <Guest6607> poderia me tirar so mais uma duvida
[00:22] <manokara> opa
[00:22] <manokara> diga ai
[00:22] <Guest6607> em relação do ubuntu com a deep web
[00:22] <Guest6607> tenho mais facilidade pra acessar
[00:23] <manokara> não necessariamente
[00:23] <Guest6607> ou tem algum protocolo de se seguranca que tenho que fazer
[00:23] <manokara> linux não é imune a virus, só não é tão almejado o Windows que possui um maior domínio de mercado
[00:23] <manokara> tem todo aquele processo de usar o tor
[00:23] <Guest6607> a ta kk
[00:23] <manokara> configurar o firewall (iptables), entre outras precauções
[00:24] <manokara> Android, por exemplo, é linux e tem altos malware lá :v
[00:24] <Guest6607> cara tenho umas janelas com foruns de hackers, tecnologia e gestao de informações
[00:24] <Guest6607> que sao otimos
[00:24] <Guest6607> ^^
[00:24] <manokara> hmm
[00:26] <Guest6607> neste comando
[00:26] <Guest6607> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe
[00:27] <Guest6607> onde coloco a aspa fechando kkk
[00:27] <manokara> eita
[00:27] <manokara> no inal
[00:27] <manokara> rsrs
[00:27] <manokara> final*
[00:27] <manokara> comi sem querer
[00:27] <Guest6607> disculpa a pergunta e que ainda sou muiito leigo
[00:28] <manokara> que isso, tamo aqui pra aprender :)
[00:28] <manokara> meu primeiro contato com linux fiquei mó "wtf?", ja fui e voltei, mas de 2 anos pra cá to firme e forte
[00:28] <Guest6607> rsrs
[00:28] <Guest6607> nehr
[00:29] <Guest6607> neste momento to colocando o wine no not da minha esposa kkk
[00:29] <Guest6607> p testar antes de colocar no meu pc
[00:29] <manokara> né
[00:29] <manokara> rs
[00:29] <Guest6607> os drive de video como funciona tem tudo tbm?
[00:29] <Guest6607> tenho uma nivia
[00:30] <Guest6607> instala normal?
[00:31] <manokara> sim, a nvidia aliás dá mais suporte que a amd, por exemplo
[00:31] <Guest6607> hehe otimo
[00:31] <manokara> em relação aos drivers proprietários
[00:31] <manokara> os drivers free funcionam de boas, mas quando vc quer mexer com coisas que precisam ser mais "especificas" (como jogar na Steam, por exemplo), daí só com os proprietarios
[00:32] <manokara> hoje em dia é mais tranquilo, mas ainda sim quando troquei minha AMD por nvidia, fiquei cruzando os dedos pra pegar
[00:32] <manokara> gastei 700 reais, ia jogar dinheiro fora, rsrs
[00:36] <Guest6607> vixe steam kk
[00:36] <Guest6607> jogo muito steam
[00:38] <Guest6607> deu a mesma coisa E: Impossivel encontrar o pacote wine
[00:38] <manokara> mesmo depois de apt-get update? hmm
[00:39] <Guest6607> sim sim
[00:40] <Guest6607> o apt-get update deu alguns erros
[00:40] <Guest6607> falha ao obter pacote o antigo ira substituir
[00:41] <manokara> hmm
[00:41] <manokara> olha, vou ter que me ausentar aqui um pouco, volto já
[00:41] <Guest6607> ok
[00:42] <thiago_733> posta o erro do seu console
[00:42] <jotaerre89> Guest6607 qual a versão do Ubuntu você instalou?
[00:43] <Guest6607> 14.10
[00:43] <Guest6607> acha bom eu atualizar?
[00:44] <jotaerre89> Guest6607 já que vc não está utilizando a versão LTS, instala o 15.10 que é o mais atual.
[00:44] <Guest6607> pronto ja ta carregando aqui
[00:44] <Guest6607> pra atualizar espero que de certo ^^
[00:45] <jotaerre89> Guest6607 vc está tentando instalar o Wine, certo?
[00:55] <Guest6607> sim sim
[00:56] <Guest6607> to atualizando o sisstema p versao 15.04
[00:57] <jotaerre89> Guest6607 no Terminal, executa o comando: "sudo apt-cache search wine" sem as aspas e vê se ele retorna algum pacote pra instalação
[00:59] <samul> is this brazil user group?
[01:00] <Mangusto> samul, "br"
[01:00] <samul> where?
[01:00] <manokara> on the channel name
[01:00] <manokara> it's a brazil group, indeed
[01:01] <samul> Hi, I need a help to find a Phd dissertation.
[01:02] <samul> however, it is not on public website.
[01:02] <jotaerre89> Guest6607 como eu não utilizo o Wine, dei uma pesquisada. Parece que o Wine não faz mais parte do repositório oficial. Somente instalando via PPA: https://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[01:02] <Mangusto> samul,what is this http://www.checkip.com/ip/202.38.129.245 ?
[01:02] <samul> M.J.S Bernadou, Phd thesis, Material Engineering Department, State University of campinas
[01:03] <samul> I am a chinese.
[01:04] <samul> M.J.S Bernadou, Phd thesis, Material Engineering Department, State University of campinas, 1994
[01:06] <Mangusto> What is the problem ?
[01:06] <samul> He has no SCI record. This make me comfused.
[01:06] <samul> Help get a copy. M.J.S Bernadou, Phd thesis, Material Engineering Department, State University of campinas, 1994
[01:08] <bakhtin> olá, gente
[01:09] <Guest6607> ola boa notie
[01:09] <Guest6607> ^^
[01:09] <bakhtin> como faço para corrigir o repositorio duplicado?
[01:09] <Guest6607> bakhtin
[01:09] * Guest6607 slaps Guest6607 around a bit with a large fishbot
[01:09] <astroo-> ola
[01:10] <manokara> bakhtin: deleta a linha duplicada nos arquivos do /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[01:11] <manokara> a proposito, qual o repositorio duplicado? da pra usar um grep pra facilitar as coisas
[01:12] <manokara> ou ir lá no aplicativo que sempre esqueço o nome (aquele onde tu seta os drivers e habilita os repos padrão) -> fontes adicionais e desmarcar
[01:12] <bakhtin> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[01:13] <samul> Help to get a electronic copy of Brazil dissertation. M.J.S Bernadou, Phd thesis, Material Engineering Department, State University of Campinas, 1994
[01:13] <bakhtin> como funciona esse greep?
[01:16] <manokara> grep 'texto' arquivo, é uma ferramenta de busca
[01:16] <manokara> e com grep -rl 'texto' diretorio
[01:16] <manokara> vc pode listas arquivos
[01:16] <manokara> contendo o 'texto'
[01:17] <manokara> mas ai só deleta um desses arquivos (/var/lib/apt/lists/blablalb)
[01:17] <manokara> entre parenteses
[01:19] <manokara> samul, i think i found something: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-50532002000300003
[01:20] <jotaerre89> samul http://www.bibliotecadigital.unicamp.br/document/?code=vtls000082355&opt=4
[01:38] <samul> manokara: hi
[01:40] <samul> jotaerre89: Hi, exactly this one, can you help me to get a copy
[01:41] <jotaerre89> samul Just do your registration on the site to perform the download: http://www.bibliotecadigital.unicamp.br/zeus/auth.php?back=http://www.bibliotecadigital.unicamp.br/document/?code=vtls000082355&go=x&code=x&unit=x
[01:46] <samul> jotaerre89: Thanks. I have registered and downloaded the dissertation.
[01:47] <samul> write in spain, This make it hard to track his work.
[02:57] <nuno_nunes> boa noite aqui alguem precisa de suporte
[02:57] <nuno_nunes> :d
[02:57] <astroo-> ola
[02:57] <astroo-> na ultima hora ninguem
[02:57] <nuno_nunes> ok
[02:57] <nuno_nunes> :D
[02:58] <nuno_nunes> eu estou no opensuse rolling a instalar
[02:58] <nuno_nunes> 938 pacotes :D
[02:58] <nuno_nunes> de updates
[02:59] <nuno_nunes> isto esta muito calmo aqui
[02:59] <nuno_nunes> :D
[03:02] <nuno_nunes> astroo-, que sistema usas :D
[03:49] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[04:05] <coliveiradots> boa noite pessoal, algue pode me ajudar a colocar o windows no topo da lista no boot (grub)?
[04:46] <Gian_> Olá, boa noite
[04:46] <Gian_> alguém está por aí?
[04:48] <manokara> yo
[04:49] <Gian_> tem como dar uma ajuda?
[04:49] <manokara> hmm, na medida do possível :p
[04:49] <manokara> qual a treta?
[04:49] <Gian_> instalei a versão 14.04, mas parece que está dando algum bug gráfico... o mouse fica deixando rasto e partes de janelas ficam bugando na tela
[04:49] <Gian_> rastro*
[04:50] <manokara> hmm, esse problema parece que é conhecido. driver proprietário, tudo atualizado?
[04:50] <manokara> qual o modelo da tua GPU?
[04:52] <Gian_> ndivia 5xx
[04:53] <Gian_> note da dell
[04:53] <manokara> opa, pode repetir por favor? deu uma caida aqui :p
[04:54] <Gian_> NVIDIA GeForce GT 525M
[04:56] <manokara> hmm
[04:57] <Gian_> quando indicia aparece também uma mensagem "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 is not ready yet or not presente."
[04:57] <Gian_> inicia*
[05:00] <manokara> o pacote da nvidia pra o 14.04 tem suporte pra essa gpu, então esses bugs aí talvez se resolvam atualizando pra uma versão mais nova
[05:01] <manokara> ou usando o driver proprietario, se o atual for o driver open-source
[05:02] <Gian_> com posso fazer isso?
[05:03] <manokara> http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/O-que-fazer-apos-instalar-o-Ubuntu-1404
[05:03] <manokara> tem umas dicas aí, e mostrando onde se pode ativar os drivers (item 2)
[05:07] <Gian_> não aparece nada em drives adiconais
[05:09] <manokara> hmm, estranho.
[05:10] <manokara> habilitando todos os repositorios da aba "Aplicativos Ubuntu"?
[05:10] <manokara> habilitou*
[05:11] <Gian_> sim
[05:13] <Gian_> um tempo atrás já instalei ubuntu, rodou tranquilo
[05:13] <Gian_> mas era uma versão mais velha
[05:15] <Gian_> alguma dica a mais? :D
[05:15] <manokara> 14.04 ainda pode ser considerada um pouco velha. algo te impede de usar uma versão mais recente?
[05:16] <Gian_> a 15.10?
[05:16] <manokara> uhum, ou a 15.04
[05:16] <Gian_> vou instalar a 15.10
[05:16] <manokara> boa sorte :D
[05:17] <Gian_> vlw
[11:35] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[13:35] <MerliM> mirqui, bom dia
[14:37] <Guest19518> Preciso de ajuda! Meu Ubuntu 15.10 não desliga nem reinicializa.
[14:38] <Guest19518> Alguém sabe que fazer?
[14:38] <MerliM> terminal tenta fazer isso -> sudo shutdown -h now
[14:38] <MerliM> e veja
[14:38] <MerliM> para sabermos se é o comando gráfico que nao obedece ou algo com ACPI fisico
[14:38] <Guest19518> já fiz, ele trava numa tela preta e não desliga.
[14:38] <MerliM> aproveitem q hoje to bonzinho
[14:39] <MerliM> ele desliga entao
[14:39] <MerliM> so que no modo antigo AT
[14:39] <MerliM> e nao atx vc escuta os discos pararem né
[14:39] <MerliM> é pc ou notebook???
[14:39] <MerliM> tenta shutdown -r now
[14:39] <MerliM> que acontece
[14:40] <Guest19518> ok
[14:41] <Guest19518> é notebook, e sim, os discos param
[14:44] <rafael_> shutdown -r travou numa tela preta, backlight apagado, disco rígido ainda ligado
[14:48] <rafael_> já fiz de tudo... mudei o "quiet splash acpi=force"
[14:48] <rafael_> instalei o laptop-mode-tools, que trava o ubuntu aqui não sei porque
[14:49] <rafael_> já tentei sudo halt
[14:49] <rafael_> fiz tudo o que tinha na internet
[14:52] <rafael_> vou tentar o Ubuntu 14 :(
[14:52] <rafael_> flw
[14:52] <MerliM> rafael_, tenta o 14.04.3 acho que é isso kkk tenta ele livecd antes
[14:53] <MerliM> eu acho que isso é configuração no bios do notebook
[14:53] <MerliM> afff
[14:53] <fabioinfoeletron> bom dia!
[14:55] <fabioinfoeletron> estou tentando rodar o emulador Higan no ubuntu 14.04 64bit, porem estou tendo dificuldade com o openGl 3.2
[14:56] <fabioinfoeletron> alguem pode me ajudar
[15:12] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[15:12] <mirqui> boa tarde merlim:) , desculpe , esquecí o chat ligado
[15:12] <MerliM> mirqui, boaa tardeee manooo
[15:13] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem?
[15:14] <MerliM> levando cara
[15:14] <mirqui> meia boca?
[15:14] <MerliM> yeap
[15:14] <mirqui> aqui vamos todos bem graças a deus:)
[15:14] <mirqui> e ai , quer falar?
[15:15] <MerliM> nops
[15:15] <MerliM> que bom
[15:16] <mirqui> bom , mudando de alhos para bugalhos , quais são as novas?
[15:18] <nuno_nunes> boa tarde a todos
[15:18] <MerliM> depende no mundo Open acho q ta indo nas mesmas huahaua
[15:20] <mirqui> bom , melhor que no mundo da janela (win) , com certeza
[15:21] <nuno_nunes> alguem precisa de ajuda
[15:21] <mirqui> obrigado nuno , no momento não
[15:22] <mirqui> vou ficar com a versão 14.04 do ubuntu até 2019
[15:22] <mirqui> ou até a outra lts sair
[15:22] <nuno_nunes> a outra lts sai em 2016
[15:22] <nuno_nunes> 16.04
[15:22] <nuno_nunes> :D
[15:23] <mirqui> opa , então vou esperar uns 2 ou 3 meses que a lts saia para migrar
[15:24] <nuno_nunes> as lts sao lançadas de 2 em 2 anos
[15:25] <mirqui> sim , mas ficam bem estáveis depois de uns 2 ou 3 meses
[15:32] <MerliM> alguem aqui ja usou um chromebook achei bonito mas é bom kkk
[15:32] <MerliM> ????
[15:43] <MerliM> http://www.linux.com/news/special-feature/linux-developers/859805-linux-kernel-developer-workspaces-video-mark-brown
[15:43] <MerliM> http://www.linux.com/news/special-feature/linux-developers/859805-linux-kernel-developer-workspaces-video-mark-brown
[15:49] <MerliM> caracassss O.o oiaaa do Hans Verkuill kkkkk VLC video capture encoding etcc
[17:05] <backitn> olá, gente
[17:05] <backitn> Boa tarde
[17:05] <backitn> como faço para corrigir um repositorio dublicado?
[17:13] <MerliM> edita a sources.list em /etc/apt
[17:13] <MerliM> creio que seja isso
[17:17] <hggdh> ou um repositorio definido em /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:23] <MerliM> olha ai dev enginner at cannonical http://www.linux.com/news/special-feature/linux-developers/817168-linux-kernel-developer-work-spaces-video-stephane-graber-lxc-
[17:23] <MerliM> hggdh, sthephane graber soft eng at cannonical workspace :D
[17:25] <hggdh> MerliM: yes, I know sgraber
[17:25] <hggdh> he is foundations at Ubuntu engineering (or whatever it is called nowadays)
[17:26] <hggdh> urgh
[17:26] <MerliM> lol
[17:26] <hggdh> desculpe-me pelo Ingles
[17:26] <MerliM> nops man
[17:26] <MerliM> ^^
[17:26] <hggdh> :-)
[17:42] <MerliM> hggdh, i like system sound sgraber
[17:43] <hggdh> huh?
[17:43] <MerliM> eu gostei das caixas de som dele sera que encontra no Brasil
[17:48] <hggdh> não sei... mas eu sei que isto lembra o meu escritório quando estava na Canonical
[17:51] <hggdh> ah, e o nick dele é stgraber (esqueci do 't')
[17:52] <MerliM> lol
[17:53] <MerliM> hggdh, fazias exatamente o que na canno???
[17:56] <hggdh> MerliM: QA, em várias áreas. No final dedicava-me ao kernel
[17:56] <MerliM> http://video.linux.com/videos/linux-torvalds-guided-tour-of-his-home-office
[17:56] <MerliM> tovalds crayyy O.o
[17:57] <MerliM> QA???
[18:01] <hggdh> quality assurance
[18:01] <MerliM> haaa ta
[18:01] <MerliM> saiu pq???
[18:01] <MerliM> tenso???
[18:02] <hggdh> pagaram-me mais :-)
[18:02] <MerliM> e ta onde now
[18:02] <hggdh> não não era tenso. Ubuntu Engineering era (ou é, ainda) um extraordinário lugar para trabalhar.
[18:03] <hggdh> A quantidade de profissionais de alto padrão era fantastica. Estava sempre a aprender algo novo
[18:04] <hggdh> e várias vezes por ano eu os via pessoalmente
[18:05] <hggdh> não sei quanto a outras áreas da Canonical. Mas UE era legal.
[18:07] <MerliM> massaaaa
[18:12] <MerliM> sistematico, ???
[18:25] <GesrobDR> boa tard
[18:25] <Mangusto> Igualmente
[18:26] <MerliM> Boa tadeee
[18:26] <MerliM> tarde**
[18:28] <GesrobDR> alguém sabe como posso resolver um probleminha? quando troco o sinal de vídeo do laptop para um monitor externo hdmi, o gerenciador de arquivos morre. Tanto faz se estiver utilizando 'nemo' ou 'nautilus'.
[18:28] <KurtKraut> GesrobDR, estás usando o Ubuntu 15.10?
[18:28] <GesrobDR> 14.04
[18:28] <GesrobDR> Trusty
[18:29] <KurtKraut> GesrobDR, Recomendo utilizar o 15.10. É bem provável que o bug que está te afetando tenha sido corrigido nas últimas 3 versões.
[18:31] <MerliM> esse morre significa fecha ou trava
[18:31] <MerliM> só acontece com file managers outros app funcionam???
[18:32] <GesrobDR> MerliM, ele fecha. Aí tenho que executar manualmente. Eles também funcionam como gerenciador da área de trabalho.
[18:32] <GesrobDR> KurtKraut, Estava esperando pra passar pro 16.04
[18:33] <MerliM> quando abre novamente funciona
[18:33] <MerliM> ???
[18:33] <GesrobDR> MerliM, sim, ai func normal.
[18:33] <MerliM> plugin
[18:33] <MerliM> recomendo via nautilus desativar qualquer plugin que é carregado com o mesmo
[18:33] <MerliM> só para checar se resolver sai ativando 1 por 1
[18:34] <MerliM> nao pode ser Bug do nautilus em si, senao o mesmo nao dava o reload
[18:34] <GesrobDR> MerliM, acho que não, pq substitui o nautilus pelo nemo e acontece a mesma coisa
[18:34] <MerliM> deve ser algum plugin atrelado que nao ta suportando
[18:34] <MerliM> devem usar o mesmo plugin
[18:34] <MerliM> nemo né fork do nautilus
[18:34] <MerliM> ????
[18:34] <GesrobDR> MerliM, é, falei besteira
[18:34] <GesrobDR> hehe
[18:36] <GesrobDR> E aonde eu vejo os plugins?
[18:36] <MerliM> relaxa
[18:36] <rafaelsoaresbr> GesrobDR, eu geralmente inicio o nautilus pelo terminal, daí ele fica mostrando os logs, e reproduzo o erro.
[18:36] <MerliM> dentro do nautilus menu configuracoes ou preferencias como nao uso ele nao recordo
[18:36] <MerliM> rafaelsoaresbr, Execente DICA
[18:36] <MerliM> muitooooo top mesmo
[18:37] <MerliM> nem precisa desativar sobe o nautilus pelo terminal e faz o procedimento com HDMI quando ele fechar no terminal vai indicar a excessão
[18:38] <MerliM> ai voce vai ter ideia do que seja pode ser alguma lib tambem faltando sei la
[18:39] <GesrobDR> MerliM, vou tentar produzir isso. Vlw
[18:40] <KurtKraut> GesrobDR, Esperando até abril do ano que vem, por quê?
[18:40] <MerliM> KurtKraut, sai o proximo LTS
[18:40] <MerliM> se usasse ubuntu faria o mesmo
[18:41] <GesrobDR> volto já
[18:46] <GesrobDR> pronto
[18:48] <GesrobDR> peguei um erro, Gdk erro 'BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
[18:49] <Tiago_> como fazer o download da versão 14.04.3 entao?
[18:50] <Tiago_> how to download 14.04.3?
[18:50] <mirqui> do site
[18:50] <mirqui> google ubuntu 14.04 + download
[18:52] <Tiago_> obrigado mirqui
[18:52] <mirqui> de nada :)
[19:04] <rafaelsoaresbr> GesrobDR, tenta gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true
[19:04] <rafaelsoaresbr> ou gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false
[19:06] <rafaelsoaresbr> Se não funcionar tenta: set org.nemo.desktop background-fade false
[19:06] <rafaelsoaresbr> ou set org.nemo.desktop background-fade true
[19:06] <GesrobDR> rafaelsoaresbr, vou tentar. thanks
[19:07] <rafaelsoaresbr> só faltou o gsettings* nos últimos comandos
[19:27] <GesrobDR> é nenhum funcionoou
[19:27] <MerliM> nem o erro se apresentouuu
[19:27] <GesrobDR> rafaelsoaresbr, em todas as ocasiões os filemanagers morrem
[19:28] <GesrobDR> o erro eu peguei
[19:28] <MerliM> sim é pra morrer mesmo
[19:28] <MerliM> e mostrar o erro
[19:28] <MerliM> partindo dele podemos ajudar
[19:29] <GesrobDR> (nautilus:15712): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'nautilus' received an X Window System error.
[19:29] <GesrobDR> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[19:29] <GesrobDR> The error was 'BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)'.
[19:29] <GesrobDR> (Details: serial 14737 error_code 9 request_code 62 (core protocol) minor_code 0)
[19:33] <MerliM> pronto aguarda
[19:33] <MerliM> GesrobDR, da uma sacada nisso
[19:33] <MerliM> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HDMI
[19:34] <GesrobDR> MerliM, vou dar uma olhada. obrigado
[19:39] <MerliM> GesrobDR, to lendo em alguns foruns e tem algo com a versão do Window Manager
[19:39] <MerliM> qual tua versão de unity já viu se é a última estavel
[19:39] <GesrobDR> como eu vejo a versão do unity?
[19:40] <GesrobDR> ah 7.2.5
[19:41] <MerliM> nao sei se é a ultima para a 14.04.
[19:41] <MerliM> hggdh, é ???
[19:43] <MerliM> GesrobDR, esse Unity teve alguma alteração do tema ou é o tema padrão???
[19:43] <GesrobDR> MerliM, estou usando o Radiance
[19:44] <MerliM> It happens only if I use the default adwaita-timed wallpaper as desktop background, which changes the background depending on time: file:///usr/share/themes/Adwaita/backgrounds/adwaita-timed.xml
[19:44] <MerliM> Replacing it with a static JPEG image solves the problem.
[19:44] <MerliM> nao sei se tem haver nao li porem num forum do arch
[19:44] <MerliM> https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/pull/263
[19:44] <MerliM> ops linuxmint
[19:44] <GesrobDR> No caso estou usando um background padrão
[19:45] <MerliM> tudo original do tema nao alterou nada
[19:46] <MerliM> GesrobDR, é exatamente o mesmo erro
[19:46] <MerliM> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg403379.html
[19:46] <MerliM> acompanha a mailist ai
[19:47] <nino> sera que posso estalar jogos no unbunto
[19:47] <Mangusto> Acho que pode
[19:47] <nino> como faço pra estalar o brutal force no unbunto
[19:48] <Mangusto> Que é isso ?
[19:48] <GesrobDR> MerliM, é o mesmo erro
[19:48] <GesrobDR> São os mesmos códigos
[19:49] <nino> ola alguem ai pra me dar um dica
[19:49] <Mangusto> Dica do quê ?
[19:49] <nino> quero uma ajuda ai pessoa]
[19:49] <GesrobDR> Me inscrevi pra atualizações no launchpad
[19:51] <MerliM> GesrobDR, tens o livecd do ubuntu ou facilidade para baixar
[19:51] <MerliM> te recomendo baixar o ultimo lTS 14.04.3 eu acho e o ultimo estavel 15.xx
[19:51] <MerliM> dai roda os 2 em modo livecd e testa seu HDMI
[19:51] <MerliM> ai verifica em qual dos 2 o comportamento se apresenta
[19:52] <MerliM> em um post li também que pode ser instalaçao corrompida danificada sei lá ai o cara diz que apos um reinstall funcionou
[19:52] <MerliM> o ubuntu nao tem uma ferramenta similiar ao do windows sobre correção
[19:53] <MerliM> uma que da um scan na distro e resolve problemas???
[19:53] <GesrobDR> MerliM, essa parte gráfica, uma vez já fiz um unity-reset
[19:54] <MerliM> nada?
[19:54] <GesrobDR> MerliM, não me lembro se isso estava acontecendo antes do reset
[19:54] <MerliM> nao parece nada server, parece algo na chamada para sincronizar com a tela
[19:54] <MerliM> o que nao deixa de ser grafico kkkk quis dizer ter haver com o servidor X em si
[19:54] <MerliM> olha ai um ponto de partida
[19:56] <brum> Boa tarde! Alguém de Minas Gerais?
[19:56] <GesrobDR> MerliM, o duro é recolocar todos os ícones de volta do jeito que eu gosto.
[19:57] <MerliM> vixii imagino por isso que nao me prendo mais nisso kkk
[19:58] <GesrobDR> MerliM, valeu pela assistência, quanto tiver + tempo testo o 15.10 e 14.04 livecd.
[19:58] <MerliM> blz
[19:59] <MerliM> boa sorte
[20:21] <MerliM> GesrobDR, olha ai mano achei algo interessante relacionado
[20:21] <MerliM> http://answers.ros.org/question/11809/rviz-crashing-at-startup-with-baddrawable/
[20:21] <MerliM> inclusive fala de drivers graficos
[20:22] <MerliM> GesrobDR, tem um diretorio no seu home ex: /home/rodrigo/.config
[20:22] <MerliM> renomeia esse .config e faz login novamente
[20:22] <MerliM> para recriar e tenta usar
[20:24] <GesrobDR> MerliM, vamos ver
[20:31] <GesrobDR> MerliM, não deixou eu fazer um back up
[20:31] <MerliM> como assim
[20:31] <MerliM> man
[20:31] <MerliM> só entrar no terminal e digitar
[20:31] <MerliM> mv .config .config-backup
[20:32] <GesrobDR> eu sei eu nao ia renomear
[20:32] <GesrobDR> ia copiar mesmo
[20:32] <MerliM> ai quando tu encerrar a sessão e voltar pronto
[20:32] <MerliM> pra que copiar mano
[20:32] <MerliM> kkk
[20:32] <MerliM> duplicar atoa
[20:33] <GesrobDR> volto já
[20:40] <GesrobDR> MerliM, não funcionou
[20:40] <GesrobDR> e agora como volta o config
[20:41] <MerliM> so renomear
[20:41] <MerliM> tem certeza que tem os 2 né
[20:41] <GesrobDR> e vai sobrescrever o mais novo
[20:41] <MerliM> faz logout da sessao alt+f2
[20:42] <MerliM> e dentro escreve mv .config-backup .config
[20:42] <MerliM> e refaz o login
[20:42] <MerliM> apaga a .config criaada antes
[20:42] <MerliM> da um ls -las no home
[20:43] <GesrobDR> mas isso tem que fz no prompt
[20:43] <GesrobDR> ?
[20:44] <GesrobDR> digo no logout não vou ter um terminal a nao ser no Ctrl+Alt+Fn
[20:45] <MerliM> isso é isso mesmo
[20:45] <MerliM> kkkk errei é ctrl+alt e o f
[20:45] <MerliM> nele
[20:45] <MerliM> loga e remove o atual .config
[20:45] <MerliM> e renomeia o outro pra .config
[20:45] <GesrobDR> ok volto já
[20:51] <Creto> Olá ubuntueiros
[20:53] <rafaelsoaresbr> Olá
[20:56] <MerliM> olaaaaaaaa butucosssss
[21:27] <fabioinfoeletron> boa noite
[21:28] <fabioinfoeletron> por gentileza alguem pode me ajudar com um problema em relacao a driver de video intel no ubuntu 15.04.
[21:29] <fabioinfoeletron> estou instalando o emulador Higan.
[21:30] <fabioinfoeletron> esta informando o seguinte erro: Error: OpenGL 3.2 is not available. Select another video driver on the Advanced Configuration tab and restart higan.
[21:33] <MerliM> testa o suporte a opengl do seu driver
[21:33] <MerliM> deve ta desativado
[21:33] <MerliM> lspci -vvv | grep VGA e posta aqui a linha
[21:35] <fabioinfoeletron> agora bugou o video a janela do terminal ficou completamente preta
[21:36] <fabioinfoeletron> acabei de instalar o ubuntu
[21:40] <MerliM> vixiii
[21:40] <MerliM> inicia em modo vesa e reinstala o drive
[21:40] <MerliM> driver
[22:01] <arctic> Olá à todos. Quero fazer um dual boot windows 10 e ubuntu 14.10. Alguém sabe me informar se consigo instalar essa versão do ubuntu em partição gpt?
[22:04] <MerliM> sim
[22:09] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:10] <arctic> obrigado
[23:01] <fabio> boa noite.
[23:01] <MerliM> boa noiteee
[23:01] <Mangusto> Igualmente
[23:02] <fabio> por gentileza alguem pode me ajudar, com um problema em relacao a driver de video intel no ubuntu 15.04
[23:02] <fabio> ?
[23:02] <MerliM> qual problema
[23:03] <fabio> estou tentando rodar o emulador higan e o mesmo apresenta erro de openGl 3.2
[23:04] <fabio> tambem segui algumas dicas e instalei o driver proprietario mais o video esta tremento quando uso o touch pad.
[23:05] <astroo-> fabio
[23:05] <astroo-> ola
[23:05] <annakamilla> tem alguem aqui que tem problemas com o hd ou só eu ?
[23:06] <fabio> oi
[23:06] <Mangusto> Que tipo de problema ?
[23:07] <fabio> Error: OpenGL 3.2 is not available. Select another video driver on the Advanced Configuration tab and restart higan
[23:08] <fabio> alguem pode me ajudar?
[23:09] <annakamilla> Mangusto bad block e travamento
[23:12] <fabio> apos instalar esse driver para ubuntu 15.04 32bit o video treme ao usar o touch pad "https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.2.0"
[23:14] <fabio> alguem pode me ajudar?
[23:14] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[23:15] <fabio> ok obrigado!
[23:17] <astroo-> de nada
[23:23] <MerliM> fabio, o que é o higan
[23:24] <fabio> ai vai o pastbin do lspci: http://pastebin.com/LK58qG0b
[23:26] <MerliM> isso é jogo
[23:27] <MerliM> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/861009
[23:28] <annakamilla> fabio geralmente o ubuntu já vem com os drivers da intel instalados
[23:28] <fabio> eu ja usei este zsnes e ele trava.
[23:28] <annakamilla> procura no synaptic ou central de programas xserver-xorg-intel
[23:30] <MerliM> usar em modo fullscreen é uma solucao temporaria segundo post que vi
[23:30] <nuno_nunes> boa noite a todos
[23:30] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, boa
[23:31] <nuno_nunes> alguem está a precisar de ajuda aqui
[23:31] <MerliM> fabio, instalou os pacotes mesa???
[23:31] <astroo-> ola
[23:31] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, posso o ajudar esse amigo em alguma coisa
[23:32] <fabio> ja tentei muita coisa.
[23:32] <annakamilla> nuno_nunes eu sei que o meu hd tá morrendo e nem adianta chorar aqui eu só queria saber se mais alguem tá tendo o mesmo problema que eu.
[23:32] <nuno_nunes> annakamilla, lol
[23:32] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, sinta-se avontade
[23:32] <nuno_nunes> eu perguntei ajuda no sistema linux :D
[23:32] <MerliM> annakamilla, como assim teu problema deve ser fisico
[23:32] <MerliM> creio eu
[23:33] <annakamilla> tem um amigo aqui tentando usar o znes
[23:33] <nuno_nunes> isso pode ser o hd a dar o badagaio :D
[23:33] <annakamilla> simm
[23:33] <fabio> vamos por parte. xserver-xorg-intel nao encontrado.
[23:33] <nuno_nunes> fabio que grafica tens
[23:33] <annakamilla> humm
[23:33] <MerliM> eu instalaria só que creio que o nome nao é esse
[23:34] <MerliM> apt-cacher search intel
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> no terminal escreva isto
[23:34] <annakamilla> procura por intel
[23:34] <annakamilla> eu esqueço que depois do 14.04 não há mais xorg e sim o mir
[23:34] <nuno_nunes> instale o synaptic as vezes pode ser uma grande ajuda
[23:35] <annakamilla> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[23:35] <MerliM> pra que synaptic???
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> annakamilla, eu uso linux que tem xorg e outro sistema
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:35] <annakamilla> blz
[23:35] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, isso tem os pacotes todos em modo grafico
[23:36] <nuno_nunes> mas nao é ubuntu
[23:36] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:36] <annakamilla> sim
[23:36] <nuno_nunes> opensuse rolling distro :D
[23:36] <MerliM> tá
[23:36] <annakamilla> o ubuntu se não me engano só vai até o 14.04 com o xorg depois disso adota o mir.
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> fabio tente este comando
[23:37] <nuno_nunes> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-utopic
[23:38] <annakamilla> eu uso este drive
[23:38] <MerliM> fabio, da um glxinfo ai
[23:38] <nuno_nunes> no meu esta instalado
[23:38] <nuno_nunes> mas nao faz uso dela :D
[23:38] <nuno_nunes> pk é amd
[23:38] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:39] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, o programa no synaptic é muito antigo dos apt e o debian usa muito
[23:40] <nuno_nunes> e foi usado muito pelo ubuntu :D
[23:42] <MerliM> fabio, cade a saida do glxinfo
[23:43] <nuno_nunes> o fabio parece que ficou mudo
[23:43] <nuno_nunes> :D
[23:45] <MerliM> fabio, dpkg -l | grep -i mesa
[23:48] <nuno_nunes> ele fugiu????
[23:50] <nuno_nunes> MerliM, parece que não quer ajuda
[23:51] <hggdh> só para corrigir. Xorg ainda é usado no Ubuntu 14.04 até o 15.10
[23:51] <MerliM> nuno_nunes, eu fico até calado pode ter dado fica na net dele sei lá
[23:52] <MerliM> gosto de pensar q nao perdi meu tempo
[23:52] <MerliM> hggdh, tnks
[23:54] <nuno_nunes> o 15.10 ainda usa o xorg :D
[23:55] <nuno_nunes> o mir agora nem é falado se calar foi um fail :D
[23:56] <fabio> desculpa a demora.
[23:56] <fabio> eu encotrei este: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[23:57] <nuno_nunes> instale este
[23:57] <nuno_nunes> nuno_nunes> MerliM, o programa no synaptic é muito antigo dos apt e o debian usa muito
e foi usado muito pelo ubuntu :D
fabio, cade a saida do glxinfo
[23:57] <nuno_nunes> <n
[23:57] <nuno_nunes> -:S
[23:57] <nuno_nunes> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-utopic
[23:58] <fabio> nuno nunes, eu instalei o que encontrei e o bug foi resolvido.
[23:59] <fabio> so um minuto que vou envie a saida do glxinfo.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.947361
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[07:22] <dholbach> good morning
[07:24] <MooDoo> morning
[09:08] <Kilos> hi dholbach MooDoo svij
[09:11] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[09:42] <MooDoo> howdy Kilos :)
[09:42] <elacheche> Hey locos! :)
[10:21] <elacheche> dholbach, when the deadline to apply fro the CC membership?
[10:25] <elacheche> I got it dholbach :) → "please send an email to the
[10:25] <elacheche> Community Council (community-council at lists.ubuntu.com) with the
[10:25] <elacheche> subject “[CC Nomination]” by Friday, October 16th"
[10:25] <elacheche> How many persons applied to that dholbach ?
[11:44] <dholbach> elacheche, I can't quite remember - I think it was 10+
[11:45] <dholbach> and AFAIK the nominations period is over
[11:45] <dholbach> czajkowski, right? ^
[11:45] <dholbach> Mark was reviewing the list of nominations, but got busy with openstack summit and stuff
[11:45] <dholbach> I'll prod him again
[11:45] <dholbach> if you want to nominate yourself, try sending in an email - maybe you'll still be consider
[11:58] <czajkowski> dholbach: correct the names are with Mark rught now for reviewing and as soon as they're reviewed we will have a poll and announcement set up
[12:01] <dholbach> ok
[12:35] <ahoneybun> what about the LC dholbach?
[12:37] <dholbach> ahoneybun, I don't know
[12:37] <dholbach> but jose and others on the LC should
[12:37] <ahoneybun> thx
[12:37] <jose> dholbach: I expired before nominations ended - wxl, awake?
[12:37] <jose> s/ended/started/
[12:38] <dholbach> jose, that's no problem - I we can extend the term for a couple of weeks if necessary
[12:38] <dholbach> until the new LC is not in place, I'd consider everyone's term to still be ongoing :)
[12:39] <jose> well, I've applied for the CC and would prefer to not be in the LC + CC voting. but the guys know I can help if they need me :)
[12:40] <dholbach> jose, I think ahoneybun's question was more about the state of the LC nomination process
[12:40] <jose> yeah. /me knows 0
[12:41] <jose> I believe it closes on the 5th though
[12:54] <ahoneybun> mm
[12:54] * ahoneybun is still thinking of joining it
[12:55] <ahoneybun> or putting my name forward I mean
[13:07] <jose> you should :)
[16:46] <wxl> yes i'm here jose
[16:46] <wxl> afaik we didn't get any nominations.
[16:47] <wxl> elacheche: do you know where lunapersa has run off to as of late?
[16:48] <jose> ahoneybun: mind a quick PM
[19:48] <ahoneybun> jose: sure?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.965636
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"jose",
"wxl"
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-desktop
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[06:06] <hikiko> hello
[06:54] <didrocks> good morning
[08:06] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:07] <didrocks> hey seb128
[08:07] <seb128> re didrocks ;-)
[08:28] <larsu> good morning!
[08:34] <seb128> hey larsu, wie gehts? had a good w.e?
[08:36] <didrocks> hey larsu! Back from Italy?
[08:36] <Trevinho> morning
[08:37] <larsu> seb128: yes! Warm and sunny Milan was nice :)
[08:37] <larsu> didrocks: indeed. Came back late last night
[08:37] <larsu> hi Trevinho
[08:37] <larsu> how are all of you? Enjoyed the weekend?
[08:37] <Trevinho> hikiko__: lars
[08:37] <larsu> didrocks: feling better finally?
[08:37] <Trevinho> hi larsu *
[08:37] <larsu> Trevinho: wow, tab complete on the wrong word? :P
[08:38] <Trevinho> :D
[08:38] * Trevinho has not the head connected yet
[08:39] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you?
[08:39] <Trevinho> hi seb128, well still in the limbo... Trying to fight against myself :P
[08:40] <Trevinho> seb128: you?
[08:40] <seb128> larsu, w.e was nice, good party on saturday, easy day yesterday and enjoyed the nicer weather
[08:40] <seb128> Trevinho, I'm good thanks!
[08:40] <seb128> Trevinho, are you still with andyrock?
[08:40] <Trevinho> seb128: nope, I come back on sat
[08:40] <seb128> did you guys have fun for halloween
[08:40] <seb128> oh, ok
[08:40] <Trevinho> I should have stayed till tue, but I got some things to do
[08:40] <seb128> k
[08:41] <Trevinho> Well, yes.... But Stockholm, really? That city doesn't want to get fun
[08:41] <Trevinho> Not sure it deserves cool people like us :P
[08:41] <seb128> lol
[08:41] <seb128> probably not ;-)
[08:41] <seb128> go to Berlin next time!
[08:42] <Trevinho> Yeah, I want to go there... I've been there some years ago but I indeed need to stay there a little more
[08:42] * Trevinho needs more friends (for travelling with) who can work remotely :P
[08:43] <hikiko> hi all again :)
[08:43] <hikiko> Trevinho, did you ping me?
[08:44] <Trevinho> hikiko: no, sorry... It was a mistake
[08:44] <hikiko> or that was a hi+tab? lol
[08:44] <Trevinho> I wanted to auto-complete Hi :P
[08:44] <larsu> morning hikiko
[08:44] <didrocks> larsu: was sick during the entire week-end, so didn't really enjoy it
[08:44] <hikiko> morning larsu Trevinho didrocks and all
[08:44] <didrocks> larsu: finally better today
[08:44] <didrocks> hey hikiko, Trevinho
[08:44] <larsu> didrocks: :(
[08:44] <larsu> didrocks: at least it is getting beter
[08:44] <larsu> *better
[08:45] <didrocks> larsu: yeah, still sneezing a little bit, but nothing compared to last days
[08:46] <didrocks> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. -> let's ship it! :)
[08:47] <Trevinho> hi didrocks
[09:03] <Laney> comrades!
[09:03] <Laney> buddies!
[09:04] <Laney> friends!
[09:04] <Laney> pals!
[09:05] <larsu> morning Laney!
[09:05] <larsu> how was the rest of your vacation?
[09:06] <hikiko> hi Laney
[09:08] <seb128> hey Laney, welcome back! had good holidays?
[09:09] <didrocks> hey Laney, Sprechen Sie Deutsch?
[09:10] <Laney> NEIN
[09:10] <Laney> hi larsu hikiko seb128 didrocks
[09:10] <Laney> did everything break?
[09:11] <Laney> larsu: good, nice altstadt there and lots of posh/green houses
[09:11] <Laney> http://www.rolfdisch.de/index.php?p=home&pid=78&L=1#a566 this rotating solar house was round the corner from us
[09:12] <Laney> seb128: very nice thanks!
[09:12] <Laney> fun to go around by train
[09:12] <Laney> and we had a cool host in berlin ;-)
[09:14] <Laney> super misty today
[09:21] <larsu> Laney: glad you liked it :)
[09:22] <Laney> larsu: did you get some tourism done?
[09:22] <Laney> or caféism
[09:22] <Laney> or somethingism
[09:24] <darkxst> hey seb128 Laney didrocks larsu
[09:26] <didrocks> good evening darkxst
[09:26] <seb128> hey darkxst
[09:27] <seb128> bah
[09:27] <seb128> looks like somebody let the gnome-desktop binaries out of the new queue
[09:28] <seb128> we have cheese gnome-desktop poppler e-d-s libgtop transitions stacked in xenial now :-/
[09:28] <seb128> didrocks, Laney (others with upload rights) any chance you would help with those this week?
[09:30] <darkxst> seb128, I will do what i can to help, but not tonight, broken from 3 days of climbing
[09:30] <seb128> darkxst, ok, thanks
[09:31] <Laney> yep
[09:31] <Laney> I am just making a tracker for eds actually
[09:31] * Laney did a look at what is broken
[09:31] <Laney> seems people were keen on starting the transitions
[09:31] <Laney> instead of serialising them
[09:32] <didrocks> seb128: can do, finishing up some medium tests work first, because umake is still my priority, but then, should be good (this afternoon, I guess)
[09:32] <Laney> don't bother, I will do a wave first
[09:32] <Laney> otherwise we might clash
[09:33] <didrocks> Laney: I'll poke here once I can focus on this anyway, and you will tell me if you need any hand :)
[09:33] <larsu> hi darkxst
[09:33] <Laney> hey darkxst
[09:33] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[09:33] <Laney> 3 days, impressive
[09:33] <larsu> Laney: we did walk around the city quite a lot and went shopping (it is Milan after all) and looking at old buildings and walking along canals
[09:33] <larsu> Laney: and drank a lot of espresso. Tasty
[09:34] <Laney> nice
[09:34] <Laney> did you speak any italian?
[09:34] <larsu> I moved mu hands some
[09:34] <seb128> Laney, do you start your wave now or do you still do catchup first? (just to not conflict, going to do some rebuilds now)
[09:34] <Laney> prego!
[09:34] <seb128> k :-)
[09:34] * Laney is doing some
[09:34] <larsu> ;)
[09:34] <Laney> well, making trackers first
[09:34] <Laney> easy thing to get started back on
[09:35] <seb128> we have one for poppler
[09:35] <seb128> cheese is done so no need for it
[09:35] <seb128> it just got tangled with e-d-s through gnome-contacts
[09:35] <seb128> libgtop and e-d-s we could use trackers for
[09:35] <seb128> gnome-desktop as well I guess
[09:36] <Laney> I'm on it, no worries
[09:36] <seb128> do we have documentation on how to set up a transition tracker?
[09:36] <seb128> for next time
[09:36] <seb128> thanks
[09:36] <Laney> lp:~ubuntu-transition-trackers/ubuntu-transition-tracker/configs
[09:37] <Laney> & http://ben.debian.net/
[09:37] <darkxst> Laney, http://imgur.com/eUVb7F6 ;)
[09:37] <seb128> Laney, danke
[09:38] <darkxst> seb128, did valac get MIR'ed?
[09:38] <Laney> no need for that
[09:38] <seb128> darkxst, I promoted it, no need of MIR it's basically a new version of a package that was already in main
[09:38] <darkxst> Laney, g-c-c won't build without it
[09:38] <seb128> I retried g-c-c
[09:38] <seb128> which built fine
[09:38] <darkxst> ok cool
[09:39] <seb128> did that for some others as well like shotwell
[09:39] <seb128> but the cheese transition didn't get it because gnome-contacts picked up e-d-s
[09:39] <seb128> we could probably build gnome-contacts without cheese to let the other ones migrate
[09:39] <seb128> then enable the option back
[09:39] <Laney> vala source is in universe though
[09:39] <Laney> the horror
[09:39] <seb128> but that set is small enough that it's probably not useful
[09:40] <seb128> Laney, I guess I can fix that ;-)
[09:40] <darkxst> g-c-c can drop to universe, if u-c-c takes the shared-data package?
[09:41] <seb128> darkxst, I guess it can, I'm going to have a look now to that shared-data thing
[09:41] <darkxst> seb128, pretty sure I cleaned up everything else last cycle, that was keeping it in main
[09:41] <seb128> Trevinho, you have a bamf landing coming?
[09:42] <seb128> darkxst, great, thanks
[09:42] <seb128> Trevinho, we need a rebuild with the new libgtop soname
[09:45] <didrocks> Ran 56 tests in 931.705s
[09:45] <didrocks> phew, system medium tests -> OK \O/
[09:45] <didrocks> (well, need to commit this in logical order now)
[09:45] <didrocks> and next release as it's a system package test
[09:46] * didrocks tries the same in jenkins with the patched system package to reconfirm
[09:51] <Laney> upgrade FAIL in python-pexpect from some PPA
[09:52] <Laney> wait
[09:52] <Laney> 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu/ wily/main amd64 Packages
[09:52] * Laney stares
[09:53] <Laney> but there is no pexpect package there
[09:54] <seb128> Laney, there was one from didrocks I think but he deleted it
[09:54] <Laney> right
[09:54] <seb128> or maybe it was in the umake ppa, or I'm confusing things
[09:54] <Laney> dunno why I got it then
[09:54] <Laney> unless it was super recent
[09:54] <seb128> I don't think it was
[09:54] <Laney> Deleted on 2015-10-19
[09:55] <didrocks> yeah
[09:55] * Laney asked #lp
[09:55] <didrocks> wrong dput :p
[09:56] <didrocks> but it's old, indeed
[09:59] <desrt> good morning eŭroanoj
[10:00] <Laney> greetings desrt
[10:00] <Laney> how's it going?
[10:00] <didrocks> morning desrt
[10:01] * Laney xenialifies
[10:02] <desrt> hi larsu, didrocks, Laney
[10:02] <desrt> it's going well
[10:02] <desrt> except that my biological clock seems to be floating somewhere in the middle of the atlantic right now
[10:03] <didrocks> desrt: you were flying too fast and didn't let it catch you ;)
[10:03] <didrocks> it will eventually catch up :p
[10:03] <seb128> hey desrt
[10:03] <desrt> morning seb
[10:04] <Laney> are you on the left side now?
[10:04] <larsu> morning desrt - how's home?
[10:05] <seb128> Laney, darkxst, I'm pondering deleting the new gnome-desktop from xenial-proposed to make other transitions easier to go through, then we could reupload ... wdyt?
[10:05] <Laney> gimme a bit to get a handle on it
[10:06] <desrt> larsu: just feeling the (not totally bad) effects of jetlag
[10:06] <desrt> i blame the additional timechange :)
[10:06] <seb128> Laney, ok, issue is that if we start rebuilds for e-d-s/libgtop we might pick more things and gnome-desktop gets harder to delete then
[10:07] <larsu> desrt: hehe, was wondering why you're already awake
[10:08] <Laney> seb128: do you know of any failures?
[10:10] <darkxst> Laney, for gnome-desktop? only unity was failing for unrelated things
[10:10] <Laney> any of them really
[10:10] <seb128> Laney, no, I'm just concerned that we try to batch too much and realize it's getting complicated
[10:10] <darkxst> I think that was fixed though?
[10:11] <darkxst> Trevinho, maybe?
[10:12] <Laney> there seems to be https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011
[10:14] <seb128> that built before gnome-desktop was NEWed though
[10:14] <seb128> so if we keep gnome-desktop we need to rebuild that silo
[10:14] <Laney> no change rebuilding is trivial
[10:14] <Laney> fixing the real failure presumably less so, so good it is done :)
[10:14] <seb128> right
[10:14] <seb128> well that was not my point
[10:15] <seb128> my point is that we might hit 3 hard ones to fix in the rdepends list
[10:15] <seb128> and then we might regreat to not have decoupled the transitions
[10:15] <seb128> but it might also be fine
[10:15] <seb128> I just prefer to play safe
[10:15] <Laney> right, I know about transitions :P
[10:15] * Laney is trying rebuilds
[10:20] * Laney loves parallel.moreutils
[10:30] <Laney> larsu: should I check out that nautilus branch now?
[10:32] <larsu> Laney: seb128 found another bug on Friday that I'm looking into right now (folders are the wrong size after changing scale factor)
[10:32] <Laney> okay, lemme know when
[10:32] <larsu> should be a one liner, but it's hard to find where to put the one line :/
[10:33] <Laney> noticed notify-osd gets messed up too after fiddling with the factor ;-)
[10:33] <larsu> still? I thought we fixed that last cycle?
[10:34] <seb128> that's there for ever
[10:34] <Laney> it gets the initial one
[10:34] <Laney> but now after changing it a few times I have big notifications
[10:34] <larsu> bug #?
[10:35] <seb128> bug #1020510
[10:35] <seb128> is the same I guess
[10:35] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/1303796
[10:35] <Laney> probably
[10:35] <larsu> Laney: unity figures you can't see right (since you're playing with dpi all the time) and just leaves it big. It's a feature
[10:35] <seb128> bug #1303796
[10:35] <Laney> too slow old man!
[10:36] <seb128> lol
[10:36] <darkxst> fwiw there is a crasher in nautilus 3.18.1, been getting lots of reports of, but no proper trace yet
[10:36] <seb128> darkxst, k, is that upstream? or from the gnome3 ppa? where do you get the reports?
[10:37] <darkxst> seb128, from gnome3-ppa (but we have most ubuntu patches dropped there), https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1512163
[10:37] <larsu> ubot5: because it's private!
[10:37] <larsu> ubot5: clearly...
[10:37] <seb128> k
[10:38] <darkxst> seb128, I have a retracer running, but it was down over the weekend
[10:38] <larsu> haha now ubot5 queried me :)
[10:38] <seb128> lol
[10:41] * Laney books a chimney sweep
[10:41] * Laney is victorian
[10:42] <larsu> you have a chimney?
[10:42] <Laney> haha, he's got his kid to do the answerphone message
[10:42] <Laney> cute
[10:43] <Laney> yeah ... 3 I think
[10:43] <Laney> we have like 5 fireplaces
[10:43] <Laney> this is an old house
[10:43] <Laney> (only use one of them though)
[10:44] <larsu> wow
[10:44] <seb128> Laney lives in a castle!
[10:44] <Laney> just an ancient house
[10:45] <larsu> aka a castle
[10:45] <Laney> it looks victorian outside too, can't see over the road
[10:45] <larsu> pics!
[10:45] <Laney> at least this is fog and not smog...
[10:45] <Laney> ...hopefully...
[10:47] <seb128> going for lunch, bbl
[10:47] <desrt> enjoy, seb!
[10:47] <seb128> thanks
[10:47] <larsu> enjoy!
[10:47] * desrt notes that she can't seem to do anything to glib anymore without breaking something
[10:48] <desrt> too many compilers and pseduo-compilers
[10:48] <larsu> pseudo compilers?
[10:48] <desrt> things like gtk-doc and introspection scanners
[10:48] <larsu> ah :(
[10:48] <larsu> and msvc :P
[10:48] <desrt> that routinely get thrown for a loop by fancy new stuff we do in headers
[10:48] <larsu> the amount of effort we put into supporting that shitty compiler is ridiculous
[10:48] <desrt> ya.......
[10:49] * desrt imagines glib as a gcc-only project
[10:49] <larsu> ya
[10:49] <larsu> would be nice
[10:49] <larsu> throw out a*a lot* of ifdefs
[10:49] <desrt> i sure do hate my ifdefs
[10:49] <desrt> thing is, now is a bad time to do that
[10:49] <desrt> since msvc is trying to be a good c compiler again these days
[10:51] <larsu> is it?
[10:51] <larsu> does it support any 99 yet?
[10:51] <desrt> C99 Conformance Visual Studio 2015 fully implements the C99 Standard Library, with the exception of any library features that depend on compiler features not yet supported by the Visual C++ compiler (for example, <tgmath.h> is not implemented).
[10:51] <desrt> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh409293.aspx
[10:51] <desrt> but in any case it seems like they realise that 15 years is long enough
[10:52] <desrt> and are trying to improve
[10:52] <desrt> they're also improving the usability of the standalone compiler
[10:52] <desrt> and hilariously, they now support linux targets
[10:53] <desrt> which is perhaps the least useful thing for them to do in the entire world
[10:54] <larsu> hehe indeed
[10:54] <desrt> visual studio itself is also now running on linux, which is slightly more interesting
[10:54] <larsu> wow seriouslz?
[10:54] <desrt> for a while now
[10:54] <desrt> http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/29/microsoft-shocks-the-world-with-visual-studio-code-a-free-code-editor-for-os-x-linux-and-windows/#.49amq8d:6vbG
[10:55] <larsu> on wine? Or do they have a custom linux backend for their ui stuff?
[10:55] <desrt> maybe mono? i have no idea
[10:55] <desrt> i care approximately 0 about the UI but the possibility of running the toolchain native is pretty nice
[10:55] <larsu> is visual studio written in .net?
[10:55] <larsu> indeed
[10:56] <desrt> anyway... i start to see light at the end of the tunnel with VC
[10:56] <desrt> for the first time in a long time
[10:56] <desrt> so it would be a particularly weird time to say that we ditch support now
[11:00] <didrocks> larsu: man, I made some announcement that even ubuntu make supports VSc on Ubuntu! :)
[11:00] <didrocks> desrt: larsu: it's a chrome-based project FWIW
[11:00] <desrt> interesting
[11:00] <didrocks> so not the real visual studio, but a browser atom-like style
[11:01] <desrt> ugh. i'm starting to hate this text/plain empty file bug
[11:01] <desrt> mostly because nautilus is _not_ doing the right thing in another case either
[11:02] <desrt> desrt@humber:~$ cp /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-3 foo.mp3
[11:02] <desrt> desrt@humber:~$ gvfs-info foo.mp3
[11:02] <desrt> standard::content-type: audio/mpeg
[11:02] <desrt> what the hell
[11:02] <larsu> didrocks: woah I must have missed that
[11:02] * desrt thinks she heard it from didrocks
[11:03] <larsu> desrt is solving problems again that don't exist in practice :)
[11:03] <desrt> i assumed that content type sniffing ... you know, worked
[11:03] <desrt> we're arguing about what an empty file is or is not based on this assumption
[11:03] <larsu> it doesn't in the general case...
[11:03] <didrocks> there is an extra layer fallbacking to extension?
[11:04] <larsu> not worth it
[11:04] <desrt> fml
[11:04] <larsu> and leads to printing doesn't work on Tuesdays
[11:04] <desrt> i hate tuesday
[11:04] <larsu> good thing its monday, then
[11:04] <desrt> so i signed up to the art gallery with a friend
[11:04] <larsu> Laney: it was a one liner. pushed. please test :)
[11:04] <desrt> we have a couples membership, in theory, but nobody knows that we don't live together
[11:04] <desrt> and can split the cost this way
[11:05] <desrt> her name is cătălina
[11:05] <desrt> her card arrived in the mail with chinese on it
[11:05] <larsu> welcome to the wonderful world of people not knowing what utf8 is
[11:05] * desrt needs to figure out that one
[11:06] * desrt needs to start by figuring out the codepoint of the character in question
[11:06] <didrocks> larsu: http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Ubuntu-Make-0.7-released-with-Visual-Studio-Code-support btw, there is a screenshot as well, you can see it's really far from real VS
[11:07] <larsu> didrocks: ah! I have seen this but thought it was some totally different program for web development which they just branded the same way
[11:07] <didrocks> well, it's more or less the case
[11:07] <didrocks> hence it's not Visual Studio
[11:07] <didrocks> but Visual Studio Code
[11:07] <larsu> right
[11:07] <didrocks> :)
[11:07] <larsu> does that include a c compiler/
[11:07] <larsu> >
[11:07] <larsu> ?
[11:08] <larsu> hitting keys: hard.
[11:08] <Laney> internets outage
[11:08] * Laney demands compensation
[11:08] <Laney> it was like 8 minutes!!!
[11:08] <desrt> http://imgur.com/PTgMSsI
[11:08] <desrt> can anyone help identify this glyph?
[11:10] <larsu> Laney: what do you pay for your internet? 8 minutes outage at £30 a month is worth half a pence
[11:11] <larsu> Laney: (you got my ping though, right?)
[11:11] <Laney> Google runs the oxygen supply to my hermetically sealed office
[11:11] <Laney> 8 minutes is a long time to hold your breath
[11:11] <Laney> also the door fails closed for security, of course
[11:11] <desrt> i think your SLA doesn't cover this
[11:12] <Laney> well I jumped out of the window
[11:12] <larsu> phwe
[11:12] <larsu> phew
[11:12] <Laney> so now I only have two broken legs and not a death certificate
[11:13] <Laney> and a broken window
[11:13] <Laney> and a dead pet unicorn because that was the only thing available to smash the glass with
[11:13] <Laney> it was the last one on earth
[11:13] <Laney> ...
[11:13] <Laney> yes I got the ping
[11:21] <larsu> seb128: how do you reproduce bug #1303796? Works fine for me even after changing the scale factor lots of times
[11:26] * Laney can't make it happen right now either
[11:34] <Laney> bah, gnome-desktop3 3.12 has breaks on the old one
[11:34] * Laney can't install this nautilus
[11:34] * Laney rebuilds
[11:38] <andyrock> morning
[11:43] <didrocks> and medium tests fully pass, yeah \o/
[11:43] <didrocks> Laney: available to give a hand if needed now
[11:43] <didrocks> hey andyrock
[11:44] <Laney> didrocks: still rebuilding here, probably going to be ok though
[11:44] <Laney> I can do a for pkg in *; rebuild $pkg; done easy enough :-)
[11:44] <didrocks> ;)
[11:45] <didrocks> well, seems seb told that helps was needed
[11:45] <didrocks> hence my proposal
[11:45] <Laney> would be if there were failures
[11:45] <Laney> but I didn't see any yet
[11:46] <Laney> larsu: this is looking good!
[11:47] * Laney is irritated that a new "Empty file" has gone under the panel
[11:47] <Laney> not that this is new behaviour
[11:50] <didrocks> oh, how come? Unity is support to declare the right xprop for the space where we set icons in nautilus
[11:50] <didrocks> and it changes that size dynamically on launcher hide or always be present
[11:51] <Laney> bug :)
[11:51] <Laney> when I go down to ×1 it's not underneath it
[11:52] <didrocks> ahah, hidpi related, once more :p
[11:52] <Laney> pixels are hard
[11:53] <Laney> also doing 8 rebuilds in parallel with -j2 on each one has nailed my other machine
[11:53] * Laney can't ssh in even
[11:53] <Laney> but I did them in ram of course, so don't really want to restart
[11:54] <didrocks> haha :)
[11:54] * Laney types "uptime" and leaves to refill the tea
[11:56] <Laney> 38.11
[11:57] <Laney> [1888722.368391] Out of memory: Kill process 1714 (Xorg) score 2 or sacrifice child
[11:58] <ogra_> no child at hand ?
[12:00] <Laney> in the oven for lunch already
[12:00] <ogra_> ah, damned
[12:00] <didrocks> ;)
[12:56] <qengho> good morning
[12:57] <didrocks> hey qengho
[12:57] <larsu> morning qengho
[13:01] <seb128> larsu, I don't reproduce the hi scaling one, but the toggle a11y big text on/off still does it here
[13:01] <seb128> I assumed they were the same issue, but maybe they are not
[13:06] <larsu> seb128: ah thanks - I'll update the bug
[13:10] <Laney> right!
[13:10] <Laney> all things build, unless I missed summat
[13:11] <seb128> Laney, all being libgtop + e-d-s + gnome-desktop rdepends?
[13:11] <larsu> desrt: are you ok with the general concept of my patch to gnome bug #755421? (not sending replies if no_reply_expected is set)
[13:11] <larsu> desrt: I'm about to write a test for this, but don't want to waste time if this is not something we want
[13:12] <desrt> i think there is another bug about this
[13:12] <desrt> let me find it
[13:12] <larsu> couldn't find one
[13:12] <Laney> seb128: ya
[13:13] <desrt> i had some ideas about this at one point, at least
[13:13] <desrt> and i thought they made it into a bug
[13:13] <larsu> what were they?
[13:13] <larsu> can't think of many alternatives to my approach (other than to let applications do the check)
[13:14] <desrt> found it
[13:14] <desrt> and indeed, i want apps to be able to do the check
[13:15] <desrt> see comment 2 on bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741397
[13:16] <desrt> i want to fix this all at once
[13:16] <larsu> desrt: this is a different issue...
[13:16] <seb128> Laney, upload away! ;-)
[13:16] <Laney> seb128: doing, need to do evo first because stuff depends on that
[13:17] <Laney> also, what's up with obexd?
[13:17] <desrt> larsu: it intersects quite a lot
[13:17] <Laney> that is part of bluez now no?
[13:17] <seb128> Laney, evo I did on friday, what is still needed?
[13:17] <seb128> Laney, yeah, you can delete obexd
[13:17] <Laney> seb128: rebuild against gnome-desktop
[13:17] <desrt> because we can't clean up the refcounting mess on method invocations unless we know how optional replies are handled
[13:17] <seb128> oh, right
[13:17] <Laney> can *you* delete obexd?
[13:17] <Laney> :)
[13:17] <seb128> sure
[13:17] <Laney> nice
[13:17] <seb128> do you want me to do evo?
[13:17] <desrt> ie: right now, _return_value() can *never* be a no-op
[13:17] <Laney> no
[13:17] <Laney> just delete obexd if I don't need to rebuild it
[13:17] <Laney> then won't block stuff
[13:17] <seb128> k, I hope I did evo alright on friday
[13:18] <Laney> check for rdeps though, I didn't do that
[13:18] <seb128> I had to go and wanted to upload before the w.e to unblock things
[13:18] <Laney> it builds
[13:18] <Laney> I didn't run it
[13:18] <seb128> yeah, I just rush merged it
[13:18] <Laney> but I assume it is fine, you did it after all
[13:18] <Laney> :P
[13:18] <desrt> also: if we add this new is_reply_required() then we force the user into the new behaviour
[13:18] <seb128> lol
[13:18] <Laney> and you remembered to bzr push
[13:18] <seb128> :-)
[13:18] <larsu> desrt: tranfer full is pretty clear on how this should be handled. I agree that this is stupid, but please don't make me rework this whole thing for what is a simple issue right now
[13:18] <larsu> desrt: and it actually is an issue. Tons of log spam
[13:19] <Laney> 'k, evo is uploaded, /me preps the rest
[13:19] <larsu> just ask seb128 :D
[13:19] <Laney> + rebuilds unity/bamf
[13:19] <seb128> Laney, you're the man!
[13:19] <Laney> easy first day back task
[13:19] <Trevinho> Laney: about that... can you publish my silo (11)?
[13:19] <seb128> desrt, larsu is right, logs are spammed!
[13:20] <Laney> and I love transitions
[13:20] <seb128> Laney, :-)
[13:20] <Laney> ♥
[13:20] <Laney> Trevinho: ya, after this next rebuild
[13:20] <Laney> new gnome-desktop3 / libgtop soname in xenial
[13:20] <Trevinho> Laney: thanks
[13:20] <Laney> Trevinho: also, hey ;-)
[13:20] <Trevinho> Laney: so... should I trigger a reboot?
[13:20] <Laney> already doing
[13:20] <Trevinho> Laney: yes... Hey! :) /me feels not polite :P
[13:21] <seb128> Laney, want to look at passepartout, it fails to build with new gnomemm libs but the errors are too much c++ magic to me :p
[13:21] <desrt> larsu: what's the deal with the log-spam issue anyway?
[13:21] <seb128> I'm pondering just removing it from the release pocket, that's an year old deprecated project
[13:21] <desrt> because no-reply-expected is strictly advisory
[13:21] <seb128> no upstream anymore, the vcs/bugzilla even got removed it seems
[13:22] <Laney> bust it to proposed
[13:22] <Laney> what does it block?
[13:22] <larsu> desrt: glib automatically sets it when no callback is passed (rightly so), but services might reply anyway
[13:22] <seb128> Laney, gnomecanvasmm and 4-5 not-so-useful universe components
[13:22] <larsu> desrt: and if they do on the system bus, dbus-1 rejects those replies (and writes a log entry)
[13:22] <desrt> this "when no callback is specified" behaviour is relatively new, btw
[13:22] <larsu> desrt: because policy there is "no unsolicited messages", and dbus-1 doesn't track messages if no-reply-expected is given
[13:23] <desrt> ya. i get that.
[13:23] <larsu> so it can't match the reply to a previous method call
[13:23] <desrt> but our current behaviour is correct and dbus daemon has a bug
[13:23] <larsu> no
[13:23] <desrt> yes. dbus daemon is logging as an error something that is correct behaviour
[13:23] <Laney> seb128: oh right, it got a gcc5 rebuild
[13:24] <seb128> Laney, right
[13:24] <larsu> desrt: gdbus is doing unnecessary stuff, which is what this bug is aobut
[13:24] <Laney> yeah well, demote stuff to proposed if you want
[13:24] <larsu> I'm fine with filing a bug against dbus-1 as well
[13:24] <Laney> gnomecanvas is deprecated anyway
[13:24] <larsu> but realistically, it won't be fixed
[13:24] <desrt> i think we file a bug against the spec
[13:24] <seb128> Laney, right, going to demote passepartout then, thanks
[13:25] <seb128> and file the bug to debian
[13:25] <seb128> in case they care enough to fix it
[13:25] <larsu> desrt: why? make it forbidden to send replies that are not expected?
[13:25] <Laney> seb128: there's a demote-to-proposed tool in ubuntu-archive-tools in case you don't know
[13:26] <seb128> Laney, btw I plan to do a u-c-c landing today, that might count as a rebuild if you want to wait on that
[13:26] <seb128> Laney, I had forgotten, thanks for the reminder
[13:26] <seb128> Laney, also they are some rebuild-ready-to-land in silo like the addressbook
[13:26] <seb128> so we probably don't want to conflict with those
[13:27] <desrt> larsu: just wrote a comment on the bug explaining my position
[13:28] <desrt> ie: i can take your patch as-is, but only with a spec change accepted
[13:28] <desrt> otherwise, patch the daemon not to complain about unexpected replies. they are harmless.
[13:29] <larsu> thanks
[13:29] <Laney> seb128: okay but only if there is 0 faff in uploading them, otherwise I will do a no change rebuild and they can force publish
[13:30] <Laney> don't care about losing changelog of a rebuild
[13:30] <seb128> right
[13:30] <seb128> well you might as well do the no change rebuilds
[13:30] <larsu> desrt: I agree that changing the spec is the better way to go, but then we'd need to change existing implementations as well...
[13:30] <seb128> no point blocking the transitions
[13:30] <Laney> indeed
[13:30] <larsu> desrt: or how is this usually handlked?
[13:31] <larsu> also, where do we file bugs against the spec? on the dbus product on freedesktop?
[13:31] <desrt> larsu: well, i get a bug from the guy who maintains a spec saying "your causing problems with your spec-compliant behaviour. please change it."
[13:31] <desrt> so like, we're changing the implementations now anyway, by request of the spec author...
[13:31] <desrt> s/author/maintainer/
[13:31] <larsu> hm, indeed
[13:32] <desrt> also s/your/you're/ yick
[13:35] * Sweet5hark did read backlog.
[13:36] * Sweet5hark wants to do a sprint at count laneys mansion.
[13:38] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark
[13:38] <seb128> how a good w.e?
[13:40] <Sweet5hark> seb128: heya. yeah, was a good weekend (needed one after the sprint and the hackfest over the last two weekends)
[13:40] <Laney> https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-1-build/322/console
[13:40] <Laney> slow source package build?!?!?!
[13:40] <Laney> hey Sweet5hark
[13:41] <Sweet5hark> anyone knowing by chance when popey will be back?
[13:41] <Laney> seems it took 12 minutes last time
[13:43] <didrocks> suspicious
[14:08] <Laney> davmor2: do you have trusty on your xps by any chance?
[14:08] <Trevinho> andyrock: for your pleasure :P https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/switcher-dynamic-model/+merge/276391
[14:09] <davmor2> Laney: I do not, I have xenial on it
[14:09] <Laney> ok
[14:09] <davmor2> Laney: why?
[14:09] <Laney> want someone to check a fix
[14:09] * Laney tries 4$
[14:09] <Laney> $4?
[14:10] <ogra_> is that like 8x 50ct ?
[14:10] <ogra_> super rap potential ?
[14:12] <davmor2> Laney: I could have 14.04.3 installed on it for tomorrow as a side by side I guess. But not today I'm going to be up and down to the car for the rest of the day testing bluez extended kernels
[14:12] <Laney> davmor2: nah I could boot a usb stick if necessary
[14:12] <davmor2> Laney: that I can do in an hour or so for you
[14:14] <seb128> Laney, are you testing you xenial?
[14:14] <Laney> you?
[14:14] <seb128> well if you are on it I'm happy to delete it from my list
[14:14] <seb128> I don't have an hidpi screen, I can test by doing hacks with gsettings key
[14:15] <Laney> oh yes
[14:15] <seb128> but I'm happy if I don't have to screw my session doing that
[14:15] <Laney> I am checking this
[14:15] <Laney> will upload X but want to check the backport works for 3.10 too
[14:15] <seb128> screwing my session because things get too big and go out of screen and then I need to resize/move things back where they should be
[14:15] <seb128> yeah, makes sense
[14:15] <Laney> join the hidpi club with your refresh man
[14:17] <davmor2> seb128: I'm running xenial on xps13 I will be using it as my daily device fairly soon, just porting over settings and data etc and would still like to make it work with my main monitor
[14:19] <seb128> davmor2, what's the issue with your monitor?
[14:20] <davmor2> seb128: not the monitor it is getting the right connector the xps13 uses mini display port and most are setup for lightning/apple products
[14:20] <davmor2> seb128: or are lightning compatible and those don't seem to be recognised but the xps/ubuntu
[14:43] * seb128 shrug at run-autopkgtest
[14:43] <seb128> "--trigger SOURCE/VERSION"
[14:44] <seb128> is that new? it's not mentioned on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration/AutopkgtestInfrastructure and not very self explanary
[14:44] <seb128> how is source different from "package"?
[14:44] <pitti> Bonjour tout le monde !
[14:44] <seb128> which is the next argument
[14:44] <seb128> pitti, ^
[14:44] <seb128> pitti, hey
[14:44] <didrocks> good morning pitti! Hope you had a nice flight :)
[14:44] <Laney> you can leave that out no?
[14:44] <Laney> hey pitti
[14:44] <seb128> pitti, had a good flight? how is your jetlag
[14:45] <pitti> seb128: ah, sorry; you now need to specify which package is the reason why you re-run the test, i. e. the excuse in britney
[14:45] <seb128> Laney, doesn't seem so no
[14:45] <pitti> seb128: flight was okay, thanks; had a really nice Sunday
[14:45] <Laney> interesting
[14:45] <Laney> must be new then
[14:45] <pitti> (Rick giving a presentation, bbl)
[14:45] <seb128> pitti, excuse in britney?
[14:45] <pitti> yeah, it's reasonably new
[14:45] <seb128> "test fail and seems to be flacky and I want to retry"
[14:45] <pitti> seb128: e. g. http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#nautilus
[14:45] <seb128> is my reason
[14:46] <pitti> seb128: so nautilus/1:3.14.2-0ubuntu13 is the --trigger, and e. g. deja-dup is the test
[14:46] <Trevinho> larsu: hey, about that border radius stuff, have you got some time to look at it? I've been debugging a little, but not able to figure out how to export that globally. As the unity side is ready since sprint, but we need gtk support.
[14:46] <pitti> seb128: (will explain later about the reason)
[14:46] <seb128> pitti, thanks
[14:47] <pitti> seb128: you cna see in the ADT_TEST_TRIGGER value in the (failed) test log
[14:48] <pitti> seb128, Laney: the reason is that britney needs to be able to associate a test result for a particular -proposed package and version, to avoid accidentally attributing an earlier run to a new -proposed package
[14:48] <pitti> seb128, Laney: and moreover, with bug 1503150 the test will actually behave different depending on the trigger
[14:50] <larsu> Trevinho: oh, I thought you had a branch for that somewhere?
[14:50] <seb128> pitti, ok, thanks
[14:51] <Trevinho> larsu: no, I did the unity side, but then on gtk I couldn't find the culprit...
[14:52] <larsu> Trevinho: ok, I'll have a look tomorrow (got some other stuff on my plate now). Where's your unity branch?
[14:52] <Laney> pitti: Ah right - I thought you were going to compute the transactions after the update_output stage (but maybe I just made that up in my head)
[14:52] <seb128> larsu, I backported your gtk fix (with the revert of the unwanted change), should our gnome-screenshot patch be dropped then?
[14:52] <seb128> or are both right/needed
[14:52] <Trevinho> larsu: mh, not a branch yet (i've a shelve :P)...
[14:53] <larsu> seb128: yes please. Thanks!
[14:53] <Trevinho> larsu: I can push it, I didn't push as I was waiting the final ATOM name, which now I have... So I'll push it shortly
[14:53] <larsu> Trevinho: ah I guess I was waiting for that ;)
[14:54] <Laney> seb128: oh you are doing this one too?
[14:54] <Trevinho> larsu: ok, let me push it
[14:55] <seb128> Laney, I did gtk, was just wondering about gnome-screenshot
[14:55] <larsu> thanks
[14:55] <seb128> I can do
[14:55] <Laney> ok
[14:55] <Laney> I just thought that I was handling it
[14:55] <Laney> but oh well
[14:56] <seb128> Laney, if you want please do
[14:56] <seb128> you can test
[14:56] <seb128> which I can't
[14:56] <seb128> sorry I didn't know you were on it
[14:56] <seb128> I did gtk because I was already backporting a segfault fix
[14:56] <seb128> so I cherrypicked what I saw in the recent commits
[14:57] <Laney> did anyone work on or test 3.18?
[14:57] <Laney> by the way
[14:57] <seb128> I didn't
[14:58] <seb128> I've been focussing on doing merges and trying to get the current proposed-migrations cleaned
[14:58] <seb128> I can do that this week though
[15:01] * Laney shrugs
[15:01] <Laney> I could as well update once we get a mir backend patch
[15:01] <Laney> then everyone will test it
[15:02] <seb128> let me install it and see how it works for me ;-)
[15:04] <Laney> filechoosers look weird
[15:04] <Laney> but nothing to block the update that I saw
[15:05] <seb128> we should probably open bugs with gtk318 tag for things that look weird
[15:07] <seb128> session restart, brb
[15:08] * qengho afk a bit
[15:08] <seb128> ok, session starts fine ;-)
[15:08] <seb128> nautilus sidebar looks weird, the left margin is missing
[15:08] <Laney> yeah same as the chooser
[15:08] <Trevinho> larsu: live at lp:~3v1n0/unity/gtk-border-radius-support/
[15:08] <seb128> same than the fs
[15:09] <Trevinho> larsu: some numbers are still hardcoded, but mostly it's fine
[15:09] <larsu> cool, thanks
[15:10] <seb128> Laney, things open with a black color first which looks weird, did you notice that as well?
[15:10] <Laney> nope
[15:10] <seb128> I see it opening a fileselector
[15:11] <seb128> but like if I start something slow like software-center the windows is black while loading
[15:11] <Laney> I just get the window
[15:11] <seb128> hum, k
[15:11] <seb128> I wonder if something is wrong with my laptop
[15:11] <seb128> let me reboot
[15:11] <Laney> well I have ss
[15:11] <Laney> d
[15:11] <Laney> so things are generally fast
[15:12] <attente> Laney: hey, sorry, i'm going to refresh the mir backend today
[15:14] <Laney> hey attente
[15:14] <Laney> thanks!
[15:14] <pitti> Laney, seb128: FWIW, just did a mass-retry of all current regressions, I hope that some of the uninstallability fixed it self
[15:14] <seb128> pitti, oh ok, thanks
[15:14] <seb128> Laney, k, works after a reboot, was probably something with intel/x
[15:14] <seb128> urg, in fact not
[15:15] <seb128> still does it for file-selector in gedit
[15:15] <seb128> not when starting s-c now though
[15:15] <Laney> what did it do before?
[15:15] <seb128> unsure, I guess the bg was standard grey
[15:15] <seb128> let me ld_preload old gtk
[15:21] <seb128> Laney, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/gtk.ogv
[15:21] <seb128> that's opening the f-s a bunch of time with gtk 3.18 then 3.16
[15:22] <Laney> you mean that it flashes black for an instant?
[15:22] <seb128> yes
[15:22] <seb128> it's visible on the screencast
[15:23] <seb128> well the bg is black before having the content painted
[15:23] <Laney> yes was just asking if that's what you were trying to report
[15:23] <seb128> yes
[15:23] <seb128> sorry it's not easy to describe
[15:37] <seb128> hey there?
[15:37] <lan3y> HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???????????????????
[15:37] <seb128> lan3y, hey
[15:37] <lan3y> got disconnected
[15:37] <lan3y> can't /nick back to the normal one
[15:38] <seb128> :-(
[15:38] <lan3y> 02/11 15:27:33 <Laney> ok I do actually see that really quickly on file selectors
[15:38] <lan3y> 02/11 15:27:41 <Laney> hard to notice but you can see it if you look
[15:38] <lan3y> 02/11 15:27:45 <Laney> worth a gtk318 bug
[15:38] <seb128> I didn't see those messages
[15:38] <davmor2> lan3y: fail
[15:38] <seb128> but yeah
[15:38] <seb128> well it's not there of long but it's visually distracting
[15:39] <seb128> let me see if anyone reported that upstream maybe
[15:39] <lan3y> Trevinho: your bamf packaging changes are weird
[15:39] <lan3y> https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-2-publish/91/artifact/bamf_packaging_changes.diff
[15:39] <lan3y> don't know what that install file syntax is?
[15:41] <seb128> lan3y, just dumping for info, but a bunch of autosynced gstreamer packages are waiting on 1.6.1 base to be merged (no hurry, just mentioning it in case you didn't have in your todo yet and want to add it)
[15:41] <lan3y> yeah, it's there, thanks!
[15:41] * lan3y is about to upload the world
[15:42] <lan3y> then go for a distressingly late lunch
[15:42] <seb128> lan3y, enjoy lunch!
[15:43] <seb128> lan3y, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748498 seems similar to the issue I'm seeing
[15:43] <seb128> well at least the most recent comment
[15:43] <seb128> which seems different from the original description
[15:44] <lan3y> nod
[15:45] <lan3y> worth a look
[15:46] <pitti> oh, an 13117 lan3y t0d4y !
[15:47] <lan3y> oops I accidentally uploaded bamf again :P
[15:47] <seb128> lol
[15:47] <seb128> those slippery fingers!
[15:47] <lan3y> good job after my comments
[15:47] * lan3y h4x0r5 p1tt1
[15:48] <didrocks> nice linux version of netbeans contains .exe
[15:48] <lan3y> 02/11 15:48:06 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- laney has been released.
[15:48] <Laney> w00t!
[15:48] <didrocks> and both 32 and 64, in case youneed them ;)
[15:49] <Laney> ok going to eat some eats
[15:49] <Laney> back to cry at build failures soon
[15:49] <seb128> Laney, enjoy!
[15:50] <didrocks> enjoy Laney
[15:52] * qengho back
[16:07] <xclaesse> seb128, Hi, is ubuntu 15.10 going to get upcoming glib stable releases, or is the policy to only pick selected patches?
[16:07] <seb128> xclaesse, we do stable updates
[16:07] <seb128> but we can also backport a specific patch before the next tarball if there is an important issue
[16:08] <seb128> sorry I was about to go, need to pick up somebody, back in ~30min
[16:08] <xclaesse> I just pushed 2 patches upstream in 2.46 (and master), just doc fix for debian packaging, it has been annoying me for years, would be great to get them: ab7b4be and 59bfb6b
[16:50] <Laney> xclaesse: yeah we'll get them from the stable
[16:50] <Laney> release
[16:50] <xclaesse> Laney, ok thanks. I guess it can wait for that then
[16:51] <Laney> xclaesse: seems to be next week, I guess that's ok?
[16:51] <xclaesse> sure it can wait, np
[16:52] <Laney> nice
[16:59] <seb128> Laney, how much are the buildds hating you? ;-)
[16:59] <Laney> just got one which I retried and worked
[17:00] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~laney/+uploaded-packages
[17:00] <Laney> sflphone already failed before
[17:12] <seb128> Laney, your devhelp upload, you forget the -dev depends on libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev
[17:12] <seb128> should be moved back to 3.0-dev
[17:13] <Laney> devhelp (3.18.1-1ubuntu4) xenial; urgency=medium
[17:13] <Laney> .
[17:13] <Laney> * Fix the -dev package dependency too.
[17:13] <seb128> ok, I'm lagging behind compared to you today ;-)
[17:13] <seb128> why isn't that one on xenial-changes?
[17:13] <Laney> didn't upload it yet
[17:14] <Laney> just chillaxing in tab #3 in this terminal
[17:14] <seb128> oh ok
[17:14] <seb128> that explains :p
[17:22] <didrocks> and docker image pushed, with that, time to end the day!
[17:22] <didrocks> see you tomorrow guys
[17:22] <Laney> this guy
[17:22] <Laney> no time to reply to his goodbye
[17:30] <Laney> scissor sisters time
[17:32] <sarnold> nine seconds isn't enough? :)
[17:32] <Sweet5hark> https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.fefe.de%2F%3Fts%3Da8c95274 <- Fefe vs. Linus. flame on!
[17:51] * Laney gives moar hamsters to arm64
[18:09] <Laney> oh well, will check on it tomorrow
[18:09] <Laney> maybe Trevinho will have replied/fixed bamf by then! :)
[18:09] <Laney> laters potaters
[18:09] <Trevinho> Laney: ah, I missed that
[18:10] <Trevinho> Laney: I'm going to check it once I'm done with my unity work
[18:10] <Laney> commented on the landing
[18:11] <Laney> will look again first thing tomorrow, or you can get someone else to before then
[18:11] <Laney> night!
[18:13] <seb128> Laney, night
[18:13] <pitti> it's so weird seeing you guys say good night :)
[18:13] <seb128> lol
[18:14] <seb128> it's weird to see you saying good morning :p
[18:14] <sarnold> seeing pitti say "goodmorning" is my cue that I've been working too long :)
[18:17] <mdeslaur> hah, me too :)
[20:34] <jono> hey all
[20:34] <jono> is the LXC Unity 8 still being maintained?
[20:34] <jono> it won't start on 15.10
[20:34] <jono> I select it in LightDM and it just hangs
[22:05] <qengho> Zzz
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.980827
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2015-11-02-#xubuntu-devel
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[00:42] <krytarik> knome: Also, just remembered, "xubuntu-docs (16.04) xenial; urgency=medium" should be "UNRELEASED", and you introduced a 'debian/changelog.dch'. :P
[07:34] <flocculant> knome: bah - in amongst all that hoohah yesterday - missed the startpage change ... https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/276361
[22:36:52] this is why you shouldn't let others update the website ;) - this is why other people would prefer that they didn't have to chase about doing that as well :p
[08:23] <SwissBot> feed xubuntu-docs had 4 updates, showing the latest 3
[08:30] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: the one from this morning should be the only one left
[08:31] <slickymasterWork> I'll have to go through everything to see what happened
[08:31] <slickymasterWork> and I'll check this last one tonight, at home
[08:32] <flocculant> yep
[08:32] <flocculant> gtg - back later
[08:33] <slickymasterWork> have a good one flocculant
[08:39] <slickymasterWork> you're right about the missing UNRELEASED in the changelog krytarik, but that's my fault, not knome's
[08:40] <slickymasterWork> I'll deal with that tonight
[08:42] <slickymasterWork> and remove changelog.dch knome added
[08:46] <slickymasterWork> hmmm I don't remember introducing that colon in the links
[09:11] <knome> flocculant, yes i agree ;)
[09:14] <knome> slickymasterWork, no need to do that, i just did it
[09:15] <slickymasterWork> morning knome ~
[09:15] <slickymasterWork> well, you steeping in did got me confused
[09:16] <slickymasterWork> did you also remove the extra changelog file?
[09:16] <knome> yes
[09:16] <knome> sorry to have confused, but the --overwrite command broke the dough :P
[09:16] <slickymasterWork> just one question, was it me that added that colon to the links in the wbsite?
[09:16] <knome> colon?
[09:17] <knome> what colon?
[09:17] <slickymasterWork> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/01/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t22:31
[09:17] <knome> split in two links meant that there were two <a> tags, not that there was a colon
[09:18] <knome> but i think you did
[09:18] <knome> but *shrug*
[09:19] <knome> anyway
[09:19] <knome> got to run
[09:19] <knome> ttyl
[09:19] <slickymasterWork> don't know how the hell I did it as I merely wrote the article and add the link to Cenial
[09:20] * slickymasterWork will prevent himself from touching the website
[09:42] <akxwi_dave> xubuntu-offtopic
[09:43] <akxwi_dave> oops wrong text box...
[13:09] <krytarik> slickymaster: I just bundled the two up for knome - but yeah, that was you, again. :P
[13:09] <flocculant> o/ krytarik
[13:09] <krytarik> Hi flocculant.
[13:11] <flocculant> knome: the contributor stuff doesn't build yet I assume
[13:15] <krytarik> flocculant: "make contributors" - but no translations, nor PDFs yet.
[13:20] <flocculant> ok - thanks krytarik :)
[13:23] <krytarik> knome: Btw, just noticed 'contributor-docs/style' found its way in, too. :P
[13:28] <krytarik> knome: (Just add "$(MAKE) -C contributor-docs clean" to the 'clean' target of the main Makefile.)
[13:38] <Unit193> xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin 0.2.4-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac)
[14:51] <Unit193> Why isn't it something more like http://paste.openstack.org/show/1HJP8DrvghLSoteEAul6 ?
[14:55] <slickymasterWork> krytarik, how come 'again'?????
[14:56] <slickymasterWork> it was my second edit in the website, so that hardly qualifies as 'again', since in the previous one it wasn't me who published the article
[14:56] * slickymasterWork shrugs anyway
[14:59] <Unit193> slickymasterWork: https://git.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/commit/debian/changelog?id=7382187e6f5dc1f870832cedf249b97738af7ffc
[15:00] <Unit193> Did it last release too, that is.
[15:01] <slickymasterWork> what are you saying Unit193? how's the changelog related to the site?
[15:01] <slickymasterWork> or are you speaking about the miss UNRELEASE?
[15:02] <slickymasterWork> in the changelog
[15:05] <flocculant> too much half complaining going on lately if you ask me
[15:08] <Unit193> coreutils (>= 8.16) can be dropped after precise is officially dead.
[15:09] <Unit193> flocculant: Hmm?
[15:39] <krytarik> slickymasterWork: Yep, referring to "[08:39] <slickymasterWork> you're right about the missing UNRELEASED in the changelog krytarik, but that's my fault, not knome's".
[15:41] <knome> huh
[15:41] <knome> messy
[15:43] <flocculant> use a bib
[20:11] <ochosi> evening all
[20:11] <flocculant> hi ochosi :)
[20:28] <ochosi> hope ppl will flock to tomorrow's meeting, since i'm sacrificing my lunch break for it :)
[20:29] <flocculant> ha ha - well if it was wednesday I would :)
[20:59] <dkessel> I will have my lunch in front of the monitor ochosi :) so you will not be alone
[21:00] <krytarik> That'll be my breakfast. :P
[22:00] <flocculant> ochosi: I've got the info's for the meeting - how do you want them?
[22:14] <Unit193> flocculant and I already NACK'd the RSVP.
[22:27] <flocculant> I'm off - if I don't see any different I'll just chuck them in channel tomorrow morning
[22:47] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'll be there
[22:47] <bluesabre> whether I'll be of any use at this meeting remains to be seen
[22:47] <bluesabre> :D
[22:47] <knome> hah
[22:48] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings not much, and the things aren't something I can contribute to so not a loss anyway.
[22:49] <bluesabre> adn time to run out again, bbabl
[22:50] <ochosi> flocculant: yeah, dunno, either a pad or just pipe them in here
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-nl
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[17:23] <papahippo> update on what I said last night about scan support for Canon PIXMA 2950:
[17:24] <papahippo> clean binary installation with .deb package proved to be problematic;
[17:27] <papahippo> easier to do "git clone ..." and build from source.
[20:07] <eliKAAS> hi
[20:08] <eliKAAS> eh ik heb een vraagje...
[20:52] <Jaap> Ik wil dat bepaalde personen in de aangegeven map kunnen kijk en niet naar de overige map..Ik weet dat je daarvoor commando chown / chmod moet gebruiken maar kunt u een voorbeeld laten zien bijv. de gebruiker heet piet en de map huis
[21:19] <Jaap> ?
[21:38] <Jaap> ???
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:25.992534
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"Jaap",
"eliKAAS",
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[01:45] <cmaloney> We'll be starting the meeting in 15 minutes
[01:46] <cmaloney> What meeting, you might be asking? :)
[01:46] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/920/detail/
[02:00] <cmaloney> OK, let's get started
[02:00] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/920/detail/
[02:00] <cmaloney> ^ Agenda for the meeting
[02:00] <cmaloney> Can I get a quick show of hands on who all is here?
[02:04] <cmaloney> OK. Well, if you show up later on please feel free to pipe up and say "howdy"
[02:05] <cmaloney> First agenda item: 15.10 release
[02:05] <cmaloney> Hope everyone is enjoying the new release
[02:05] <cmaloney> I'm not sure if anyone did a release party but if you did please send some photos so we can post them up on the site
[02:05] <cmaloney> Next item: Ubuntu Online Summit
[02:06] <cmaloney> Nov. 3-5 there's the Ubuntu Online Summit
[02:06] <cmaloney> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2015/09/13/ubuntu-online-summit-dates-3-5-november-2015/
[02:06] <cmaloney> https://launchpad.net/sprints/uos-1511
[02:09] <cmaloney> So if you're inclined feel free to follow the progress there.
[02:19] <cmaloney> Anything anyone else would like to bring up?
[02:19] <cmaloney> Weather? State of Linux?
[02:20] <cmaloney> Let me tell you about my character...
[02:22] <cmaloney> I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
[02:22] <cmaloney> I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
[02:22] <cmaloney> I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
[02:22] <cmaloney> From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;
[02:22] <cmaloney> I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
[02:22] <cmaloney> I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
[02:22] <cmaloney> About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
[02:22] <cmaloney> With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
[02:22] <cmaloney> I'm very good at integral and differential calculus;
[02:22] <cmaloney> I know the scientific names of beings animalculous:
[02:22] <cmaloney> In short, in matters vegetable, animal, and mineral,
[02:22] <cmaloney> I am the very model of a modern Major-General.
[02:57] <rick_h__> lol
[02:57] <rick_h__> cmaloney: rough night?
[03:04] <cmaloney> Nah, talking to onesself is perfectly normal. :)
[03:10] <rick_h__> hah
[03:43] <_stink_> here!
[03:43] <_stink_> :P
[12:03] <cmaloney> Morning
[12:41] <rick_h__> morning
[13:23] <brousch> Getting antsy about moving to the new job. Only 2 weeks to go!
[13:26] <rick_h__> woo!
[13:26] <rick_h__> I always hate that transfer time
[13:55] <_stink_> same here, mostly because you have to actually write docs
[13:55] <_stink_> :P
[13:55] <rick_h__> hah
[14:07] <brousch> trudat
[14:08] <brousch> I had a good job description written up for my replacement, but now they've decided to split the job
[14:11] <brousch> Hm, what's a good title for this job: "In this role you will provide support for the company’s existing ERP and other software systems while implementing the transition to new ones.
[14:11] <brousch> "
[14:16] <cmaloney> brousch: Two more weeks?
[14:16] <cmaloney> That's generous
[14:16] <brousch> Yes
[14:16] <brousch> I gave them 4
[14:17] <cmaloney> wow
[14:17] <cmaloney> Most I've ever given was two
[14:17] <cmaloney> That usually is more than enough
[14:17] <cmaloney> and gets awkward after week one
[14:18] <brousch> I have 15 years of hoarded knowledge to pass on
[19:28] <_stink_> anyone else getting intermittent failures on the normal ubuntu package repos?
[19:28] <_stink_> oh wait
[19:28] <_stink_> the new one just came out didn't it
[19:28] <_stink_> maybe they are getting hammered
[19:31] <brousch> The devs or the servers?
[19:33] <cmaloney> OK, this is irritating
[19:33] <cmaloney> Wanted to check in on librefm
[19:33] <cmaloney> said the irc server was irc.gnu.org
[19:33] <cmaloney> Thought that was a separate server network
[19:34] <cmaloney> so I tried connecting to it
[19:34] <cmaloney> connected me to asimov.freenode.net
[19:34] <cmaloney> so irc.gnu.org is an alias for freenode.net
[19:34] <cmaloney> even on IRC they're cuckoo for gnu labeling.
[19:46] <_stink_> brousch++
[19:52] <greg-g> brousch: both
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2015-11-02-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:49] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[22:06] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.010552
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"authors": [
"astroo-"
],
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}
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-ir
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[13:03] <gazanfar> join
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.015142
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-se
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[00:41] <hyltixa> Någon här som kör ubuntu touch på någon enhet ? :)
[18:08] <hyltixa> Hej på er, har jag missat något eller vad har hänt med ubuntu-se.org ? :)
[18:13] <hyltixa> Såg nu om hårdvarukrachen :)
[19:44] <marsupapu> Det har varit ganska så tyst för några dagar.
[22:26] <Hund> Det verkar ju vara något större problem.
[22:27] <Hund> Har det varit någon aktivitet på forumet senaste året?
[23:53] <hyltixa> ja någon hårdvarucrash :). jo men lite trådar har väl allt kommit in, men inte som det var för några år sedan ;)
[23:53] <hyltixa> saknar lathunden och bossieman också ;)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.021200
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-us-ca
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[18:22] <pleia2> ah, wiki load times
[18:27] <pleia2> ianorlin: I seem to recall you accepted a nomination at the last meeting, care to add yourself to the wikipage? :)
[20:02] * pleia2 adds SF ubuntu hour for december to the schedule
[20:06] * nhandler adds it to his calendar so he doesn't forget
[20:06] <pleia2> :)
[21:53] <MichaelPaoli> Berkeley Linux Users Group (BerkeleyLUG) - still @ Bobby G's Pizzeria - noon-3pm http://berkeleylug.com/meetings/
[21:53] <darthrobot`> Title: [Meetings | BerkeleyLUG]
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.022698
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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"darthrobot`",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-us-ca"
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-eg
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[11:50] <Guest69981> Why do people say that upgrading to Ubuntu 15 from Ubuntu 14.10 isn't recommended?
[11:52] <Na3iL> Guest69981, cause 15.04 is not LTS like people think
[11:53] <Guest69981> Sorry i'm new to Ubuntu ,
[11:53] <Na3iL> Wait! you mean downgrade not upgrade
[11:53] <Guest69981> upgrade
[11:54] <Guest69981> So will Ubuntu 15 be a LTS version?
[11:54] <Na3iL> Nope, 15.04 is not LTS anymore
[11:55] <Na3iL> So, it is not supportable from Canonical
[12:04] <Guest69981> Ok thanks alot ..
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.024550
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-ru
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[13:00] <tagezi> test
[13:00] <ubuntuhelp> tagezi, Понг понг понг...
[13:05] <tagezi> ping
[13:05] <ubuntuhelp> tagezi, Failed!
[18:03] <maxaj> s
[18:03] <maxaj> помогите. рабочий стол уходит за пределы монитора
[18:03] <Sergey_IT> ссс
[18:17] <dsadsddfxc> Привет! Как включить vsync в fglrx?
[18:19] <Sergey_IT> https://www.google.ru/search?q=+%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BA+%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C+vsync+%D0%B2+fglrx&sitesearch=ubuntu.ru&hl=ru&gws_rd=ssl
[18:21] <dsadsddfxc> Ну это я и сам всё читал
[18:21] <dsadsddfxc> Мне нужен конкретная рабочая инструкция
[18:21] <dsadsddfxc> Мне нужена конкретная рабочая инструкция
[18:26] <dsadsddfxc> Вот в чём проблема: http://i.imgur.com/Tfss048.png
[18:26] <dsadsddfxc> ползунок не работает
[18:30] <dsadsddfxc> Sergey_IT
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.029669
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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"Sergey_IT",
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-it
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[04:03] <d^_^b_> ciao
[04:03] <d^_^b_> c'è qualcuno?
[13:30] <calamaro> cristian_c ho fatto una prova (per quel problema audio) con una live 15.10... purtroppo il problema persiste...
[13:39] <cristian_c> calamaro: sei siuro non si tratti di un problema hardware?
[13:39] <cristian_c> *sicuro
[13:39] <cristian_c> calamaro: esempio, problemi della mobo
[14:03] <calamaro> non saprei... cristian_c l'unica cosa che è stata fatta di recente è l'aggiunta di un hard disk... può essere che abbia "rubato" spazio ad un canale audio?
[14:03] <cristian_c> calamaro: non c'è un collegamento logico tra le due cose
[14:04] <cristian_c> calamaro: se invece hai toccato inavvertitamente la scheda madre, può anche essere
[14:05] <calamaro> infatti, cristian_c però se è stata fatta una modifica di recente quella è l'unica... io non ci ho messo mani dentro...
[14:05] <calamaro> è come se la scheda madre non traducesse o non ricevesse correttamente la scheda audio, secondo me... cristian_c
[14:07] <f843d0> calamaro: amixer ti dichiara la scheda con due canali?
[14:11] <calamaro> f843d0, in realtà seguendo la guida "risoluzioni audio" e dando questo comando: "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" io ricevo questo: "WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Frequenza 48000 Hz, Mono" anziché questo: "Wave '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Samplingrate:
[14:11] <calamaro> 44100 Hz, Stereo" è quel "mono" che mi da da pensare...
[14:11] <calamaro> però in unscita funzionano entrambi i canali
[14:12] <f843d0> calamaro: Front_Center.wav potrebbe essere mono
[14:12] <f843d0> calamaro: dovresti piuttosto provare aplay -c 2 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[14:13] <calamaro> f843d0 mi restituisce: /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav: File o directory non esistente
[14:13] <f843d0> calamaro: ls /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav risponde?
[14:14] <calamaro> impossibile accedere a /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav: File o directory non esistente
[14:14] <f843d0> calamaro: quindi non riprodurre un file non esistente non e` direttamente un problema di canali
[14:15] <calamaro> f843d0, non so se hai seguito il problema principale... in pratica in uscita tutto bene, in entrata invece mentre registra riceve solo un canale...
[14:15] <calamaro> non un canale mono, ma un canale stereo a metà
[14:15] <f843d0> calamaro: si, ho letto da ieri. Ma prima ho chiesto se amixer ti segnala l'esistenza di due canali
[14:16] <calamaro> f843d0, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13445448/
[14:18] <calamaro> f843d0, non sono in grado di tradurre quello che restituisce, ma "Capture channels: Mono" mi insospettisce...
[14:19] <f843d0> calamaro: pero` te lo dice il -D IEC958 Validity Check
[14:20] <f843d0> calamaro: su Front Mic e Mic sembra ci siano due canali
[14:20] <calamaro> mmmm
[14:21] <f843d0> calamaro: piuttosto, il Front Mic sembra essere disattivato
[14:22] <calamaro> forse è perché quando non li si usa va in "escludi audio" da solo
[14:24] <f843d0> calamaro: hai installato audacity? Stai usando qualcosa "sopra ALSA"? (jackd o pulse)
[14:24] <calamaro> sì, di solito uso audacity... ho installato pulseaudio ieri sotto consiglio e prova...
[14:24] <calamaro> no jackd no... è il caso di provarlo?
[14:25] <f843d0> calamaro: no no, assolutamente. Aiutare in tal contesto non aiuta, anzi...
[14:25] <calamaro> ok
[14:30] <f843d0> calamaro: in audacity, Edit->Preferences, c'e` un Group Recording, con un label Device. Riesci a fare una screenshot del Combobox alla sua destra?
[14:31] <calamaro> f843d0, parli della finestra a tendina con le varie opzioni di entrata?
[14:32] <f843d0> calamaro: probabilmente si
[14:33] <calamaro> se la tendina è aperta il tasto "stamp" per la schermata non può essere attivato... f843d0
[14:33] <calamaro> comunque, il problema è presente anche su un altro programma
[14:33] <calamaro> quindi non credo si tratti di audacity
[14:34] <cristian_c> calamaro: te lo dissi
[14:34] <f843d0> calamaro: usando gimp per fare lo screenshot puoi impostare il delay e prenderti il giusto tempo per aprire la Combobox eventualmente
[14:34] <cristian_c> che potevi utilizzare gnome-screenshot
[14:34] <cristian_c> ma forse te ne sei dimenticato
[14:35] <f843d0> calamaro: comunque, non ce l'ho con audacity, tutt'altro! E` che magari ci puo` fornire informazioni preziose per capire cosa succede
[14:35] <calamaro> adesso provo come dice cristian_c
[14:35] <f843d0> calamaro: per farti un esempio, il mio sistema funziona, ma per operare il recording devo prendere il device Rear Mic:0, altri devices non funzionano
[14:38] <calamaro> f843d0 cristian_c sì, lo faceva anche il mio... ecco la schermata: http://ibin.co/2NRJvyuDEq33
[14:40] <f843d0> calamaro: hai provato a operare il recording selezionando via via tutti i dispositivi utili (Front Mic e Mic)?
[14:41] <calamaro> f843d0, fino alla nausea
[14:41] <f843d0> calamaro: e puntualmente vedi che solo un canale registra?
[14:41] <calamaro> esattamente
[14:41] <calamaro> se vuoi faccio una schermata mentre è in recording
[14:42] <f843d0> calamaro: se lo dici, ti credo.
[14:44] <calamaro> f843d0... tanto per curiosità... le onde più alte nel canale superiore sono io che tocco il jack col dito... http://ibin.co/2NRLbwxXsuMx
[14:50] <f843d0> calamaro: alla peggio, potresti provare in #alsa
[14:51] <calamaro> f843d0, sarebbe?
[14:52] <f843d0> calamaro: canale dedicato ad ALSA, ci sara` qualcuno che ci acchiappa per una cosa del genere
[14:52] <calamaro> ah, non avevo capito
[14:52] <Stefano> Buonasera
[14:53] <Stefano> mi servirebbe una mano con i driver del wi-fi qualuno mi potrebbe aiutare?
[14:55] <cristian_c> !qualcuno | Stefano
[14:55] <ubot-it> Stefano: la maggior parte delle prime domande fatte in questo canale è del tipo «qualcuno puo' aiutarmi/qualcuno ha tempo/qualcuno usa...?». Fate la vostra domanda tecnica e se qualcuno sa, rispondera'
[15:09] <calamaro> f843d0, ma non è un canale italiano vero?
[15:10] <f843d0> calamaro: ah non saprei. Dal nome, direi internazionale
[16:46] <inox> ciao a tutti
[16:48] <Carlin0> !ciao | inox
[16:48] <ubot-it> inox: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[16:48] <inox> ma avete anche voi problemi seri ad accedere a tutti i siti della comunità italiana di Ubuntu?
[16:50] <jester-> inox: guasti che verranno risolti domani
[16:50] <inox> cacchio che peccato!
[16:50] <inox> speriamo risolvino presto :D
[16:50] <Carlin0> in effetti non apre manco a me
[16:50] <jester-> ti serve qualcosa?
[16:50] <inox> si
[16:51] <inox> cercavo qualche soluzione perché dopo lo stand-by lo schermo fa strani sfarfalli e manda la ventola al massimo della CPU, il pc in questione è un HP - nx6125
[16:52] <Carlin0> cmq dopo un po si apre
[16:53] <jester-> inox: a di harware non 100% linux digeribile
[16:53] <inox> be si sono riuscito ad aprire qualche pagina, ma purtroppo non riguardavano i problemi che sto riscontrando io
[16:53] <inox> be viene riconosciuto tutto, è funziona egregiamente tutto
[16:54] <inox> anche la scheda broadcom 4318... che di solito fa impazzire la gente per farla funzionare
[16:54] <inox> è un peccato che solo per lo stand-by non si riesce ad avere una macchina perfetta
[16:56] <inox> lo schermo si vede, solo che appunto come dicevo sfarfalla un po, e la ventola della cpu mandata al massimo
[16:56] <inox> tutto questo solo dopo lo stand-by
[16:56] <inox> per il resto funziona benissimo
[16:59] <inox> pensavo che magari qualche impostazione che viene dimenticata dopo lo stand-by
[17:02] <jester-> ACPI non copletamente compatibile, che versione usi
[17:03] <inox> se indendi la versione di ubuntu è lubuntu 15.10 a 32bit
[17:03] <jester-> mi sa che devi rinunciare allo stanby
[17:05] <inox> un piccolo neo di cui si può fare a meno :D grazie lo stesso
[17:05] <jester-> inox: neanche winzoz supporta tutto
[17:06] <inox> e si infatti
[17:06] <jester-> il mio desktop va in standby con linux e fa casino con winz
[17:06] <inox> ma poi parliamo di un pc che ha ben 10 anni
[17:06] <jester-> eh bè
[17:07] <inox> quindi ci può stare che qualche parte hardware non venga riconosciuta al 100%, per il resto sono soddisfatto
[17:07] <inox> se non ci fosse l'open source questo pc potrebbe andare direttamente in discarica
[17:17] <inox> ciao a tutti alla prossima!!
[17:28] <d^_^b_> buonasera a tutti
[17:36] <d^_^b_> sapete dirmi se questa guida funziona?
[17:36] <d^_^b_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p3100
[17:36] <d^_^b_> grazie
[17:37] <jester-> d^_^b_: la guida è ufficiale non ti rimane che provare
[17:37] <d^_^b_> grazie jester-
[17:37] <d^_^b_> per caso sai dirmi quale immagine devo scaricare? ci sono 4 link
[17:38] <d^_^b_> e se c'è la guida in italiano?
[17:38] <d^_^b_> grazie
[17:38] <jester-> dovrebbero portare allo stesso file
[17:39] <d^_^b_> ok, ora provo
[17:39] <jester-> d^_^b_: non so se c'è, il wiki it è down
[17:39] <d^_^b_> ok niente allora. Meglio cyangogen o ubuntu touch secondo te?
[17:40] <Squall68> ad avere un device compatibile io proverei ubuntu touch
[17:40] <jester-> d^_^b_: non avendo provato no so che dirti
[17:40] <Squall68> al limite flashi una cyanogen
[17:40] <d^_^b_> infatti vorrei provarlo ma ho paura di rompere il tablet se non funziona xD
[17:41] <Squall68> :)
[17:41] <jester-> di solito fanno un dual boot
[17:41] <Squall68> se hai un tablet rootato con recovery non dovresti preoccuparti
[17:42] <Squall68> ah sorry buonasera a tutti
[17:42] <Squall68> :)
[17:42] <d^_^b_> sì, ho su una versione della cyanogenmod
[17:42] <d^_^b_> sera :)
[17:42] <Squall68> grazie jester per l'info
[17:42] <Squall68> di là
[17:44] <Squall68> ok allora mi do alla macchia... scappo e buon fine domenica a tutti!
[17:53] <d^_^b_> la recovery che usa ubuntu touch è la stessa che viene usata per le altre rom? se non funziona posso sempre tornare nella recovery mode a flashare un'altra rom? grazie
[18:19] <tumbler> ciao Joshua^Dunamis
[18:20] <Joshua^Dunamis> ciao tumbler
[18:20] <Joshua^Dunamis> ahahah
[18:20] <tumbler> come va con ubuntu?
[18:20] <tumbler> hai sistemato poi il problema di unity
[18:21] <tumbler> secondo me dovresti avvicinarti a qualche altra distro ... ultimamente ubuntu fa pietà
[18:21] <tumbler> invade la privacy ed è molto invasiva ... richiede un sacco di risorse
[18:21] <Joshua^Dunamis> beh ultimamente uso poco Ubuntu... è in una partizione sua ... infatti uso ormai Manjaro Linux come OS principale
[18:22] <tumbler> come ti trovi?
[18:22] <tumbler> qualxun altro usa manjaro?
[18:22] <Joshua^Dunamis> molto bene direi
[18:23] <tumbler> dovrei provare anche io ... almeno in manjaro c'è aur ... qui su ubuntu abbiamo ancora i ppa esterni
[18:23] <tumbler> che reputo molto insicuri
[18:23] <tumbler> manjaro è rolling?
[18:24] <Joshua^Dunamis> va beh tra AUR e i ppa esterni non vi è sostanziale differenza in quanto a sicurezza.. sì Manjaro è rolling
[18:24] <tumbler> ma almeno non devo andarmeli a cercare come gli .exe di windows
[18:25] <tumbler> e poi i pacchetti in aur sono prima filtrati
[18:25] <Joshua^Dunamis> tumbler: si questo è vero
[18:25] <tumbler> non tutti possono caricarli
[18:25] <tumbler> solo i trust user
[18:25] <tumbler> e comunque se è rolling gli darò una occhiata
[18:25] <gio1971> Buonasera. Ho installato Ubuntu 15.04 a fianco di Windows 8.1 su un notebook HP, ma all'avvio non visualizza il dual boot e mi apre direttamente Windows. Dove sto sbagliando?
[18:25] <tumbler> io qui reinstallo ogni sei mesi
[18:25] <Joshua^Dunamis> tumbler: certo, questo è vero
[18:26] <tumbler> gio1971, come hai installato?
[18:26] <gio1971> Da chiavetta, seguendo le istruzioni del pc
[18:26] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: forse non hai installato il bootloader, grub
[18:26] <gio1971> installa a fianco
[18:26] <tumbler> ed il grub?
[18:26] <gio1971> io ho effettuato l'istallazione standard
[18:27] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: il tuo pc è uefi?
[18:27] <tumbler> se hai uefi spero tu abbia seguito la guida giusta
[18:27] <gio1971> é un notebook nuovo
[18:27] <gio1971> come faccio a sapere se è uefi'
[18:27] <Joshua^Dunamis> sicuramente è uefi
[18:27] <gio1971> ?
[18:27] <gio1971> ok
[18:27] <tumbler> è uefi
[18:27] <gio1971> quindi'
[18:27] <gio1971> ?
[18:27] <tumbler> perchè hai scelto ubuntu
[18:27] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: quindi devi seguire la guida di ubuntu per installare su un sistema uefi
[18:28] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: e ciò vale per quasi tutte le ultime distro linux
[18:28] <gio1971> ok
[18:28] <gio1971> quindi l'installazione fatta non serve a nulla?
[18:28] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: praticamente
[18:29] <tumbler> che DE ti piace???
[18:29] <tumbler> io ho recentemente visto questa distro anche per principianti http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=manjaro
[18:29] <tumbler> gio1971, ^^
[18:29] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: deve caricare li loader uefi su apposita partizione che avendo windows 8.1 sicuramente hai già ma appunto va installato Ubuntu o altra distro Linux in modalità uefi
[18:30] <gio1971> ora, però, fammi capire. devo portare di nuovo il pc alla situazione iniziale e poi ricominciare da capo?
[18:30] <tumbler> il bootloader devi installaro in /boot dopo aver dato come punto di mount /boot alla partizione /UEFI o /EFI che già hai
[18:30] <tumbler> gio1971, reinstalla sopra
[18:31] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: non proprio, puoi seguire la procedura di prima ma seguendo l'installazione uefi, avrà creato già la partizione dove ora c'è Ubuntu ma va sovrascritta
[18:31] <Joshua^Dunamis> e pure formattata
[18:31] <gio1971> ok. la guida la trovo sul sito?
[18:31] <Joshua^Dunamis> ma fa tutto l'installatore
[18:31] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: si
[18:31] <Joshua^Dunamis> la trovi sul sito ufficiale
[18:31] <gio1971> grazie
[18:33] <gio1971> e se invece elimino del tutto windows non ho questo problema no?
[18:33] <Joshua^Dunamis> di nulla.. prova ubuntu per un paio di mesi... e vedi come ti trovi... l'universo Linux è vasto... più un là potresti provare qualcos altro di più sostanzioso e anche autoaggiornante come una rolling release.. quella indicata da tumbler ad esempio..
[18:33] <tumbler> il problema non è windows
[18:33] <Joshua^Dunamis> gio1971: anche se elimini windows devi installare in modalità uefi a meno che non disattivi uefi dal "bios"
[18:34] <gio1971> ok
[18:34] <gio1971> grazie
[18:34] <Joshua^Dunamis> di nulla
[18:40] <cristian_c> gio1971: fai prima un giro in live
[18:40] <cristian_c> prima di installare (in dual boot)
[19:08] <ale123> ciao a tutti. Non riesco ad installare Skype su Xubuntu 14.04 mi dice "Impossibile correggere errori, ci sono pacchetti danneggiati bloccati
[19:08] <ale123> potete aiutarmi?
[19:12] <cristian_c> !paste | ale123
[19:12] <ubot-it> ale123: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[19:12] <cristian_c> ale123: come stai tentando di installarlo?
[19:18] <ale123> da terminale
[19:18] <ale123> ma ho provato anche dal sito e dall'Ubuntu Software Sercive
[19:19] <ale123> ho seguito questa guida post installazione: http://www.marcosbox.org/2014/04/xubuntu-1404-guida-post-installazione.html
[19:19] <ale123> ma skype non l'avevo installato, me l'ero dimenticato
[19:19] <ale123> e ora non me lo fa pi
[19:19] <ale123> ù fare
[19:23] <cristian_c> ale123: allora
[19:23] <cristian_c> ale123: prima cosa, segui le ini
[19:23] <cristian_c> le indicazioni delle risorse ufficiali di ubuntu
[19:24] <cristian_c> ale123: invece che recuperare guide a caso dal web
[19:26] <cristian_c> ale123: tra l'altro noto la presenza di ppa nella guida, che non è una grande idea
[19:26] <ale123> scusa, cosa sono le ini?
[19:26] <cristian_c> ale123: in un terminale, digita: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:26] <cristian_c> ale123: leggi sotto
[19:27] <cristian_c> non fermarti alle prime rigje
[19:27] <cristian_c> righe
[19:28] <ale123> ho letto, ma cosa digito sul browser? "ini"...e poi?
[19:28] <ale123> cmq l'ho digitato ma non succede nulla...
[19:29] <ale123> anzi, mi ha risposto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13453978/
[19:30] <cristian_c> ale123: ripeto, leggi sotto, non fermarti alla prima riga, di quello che ti si scrive
[19:31] <cristian_c> ale123: si può sapere cos'hai incollato?
[19:31] <ale123> quello che mi hai scritto: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:32] <cristian_c> ale123: non credo proprio
[19:32] <cristian_c> ale123: c'è tutta una serie di cose relative a minecraft che non c'entrano niente col comando
[19:33] <cristian_c> ale123: per favore digita bene e mostra tutto su pastebin
[19:33] <cristian_c> comando compreso
[19:34] <ale123> mi dai il link per le immagini così ti mando la videata
[19:34] <BRUTALONe> Ciao
[19:35] <cristian_c> !image | ale123
[19:35] <ubot-it> ale123: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[19:37] <ale123> https://imgur.com/c1nnUvI
[19:37] <ale123> come vedi..
[19:38] <cristian_c> ale123: vedo chenil link restituito non c'entra niente con quello che hai mandato tu
[19:39] <cristian_c> ale123: gli indirizzi sono diversi
[19:39] <ale123> hai ragione... scusa, ho sbagliato a scrivere l'ultima cifra
[19:39] <cristian_c> il tuo finisce per 8
[19:39] <cristian_c> quella della schermata finisce per 5
[19:40] <cristian_c> ale123: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit && ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | pastebinit
[19:41] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454507/
[19:41] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454509/
[19:42] <cristian_c> l'ultima riga del primo paste è strana...
[19:44] <ale123> potrebbe dipendere da un'altra guida che ho seguito per cercare di far funzionare la pctv pinnacle...
[19:44] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get install -y skype | pastebinit
[19:44] <ale123> ma non so più quale sia...
[19:45] <ale123> ale@ale-SATELLITE-C850D-10W:~$ sudo apt-get install -y skype | pastebinit
[19:45] <ale123> E: Impossibile correggere i problemi, ci sono pacchetti danneggiati bloccati.
[19:45] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454672/
[19:48] <cristian_c> uhm, ora ha caricato le ultime righe del primo paste, ecco perché non tornava
[19:49] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit
[19:50] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454960/
[19:51] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[19:51] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13455067/
[19:53] <Carlin0> ale123, hai la 32 o la 64 bit ?
[19:54] <ale123> 64
[19:54] <cristian_c> ale123: lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[19:54] <cristian_c> ah, è trusty, scusa
[19:54] <cristian_c> non serve più
[19:54] <ale123> ok
[20:00] <cristian_c> ale123: chiudi il terminale
[20:00] <cristian_c> ale123: apri synaptic
[20:00] <ale123> fatto
[20:02] <cristian_c> ale123: cerca akype
[20:02] <cristian_c> skype
[20:02] <ale123> fatto
[20:02] <cristian_c> ale123: che esce?
[20:02] <cristian_c> !image | ale123
[20:02] <ubot-it> ale123: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[20:04] <ale123> https://imgur.com/rtr430X
[20:05] <cristian_c> ale123: selezionalo e premi Applica
[20:06] <ale123> mi dà già il ! prima di schiacciare applica... schiaccio lo stesso?
[20:06] <cristian_c> ale123: posta una schermata
[20:07] <ale123> https://imgur.com/IToo4eG
[20:08] <cristian_c> ale123: posta le seguenti due schermate:
[20:08] <cristian_c> 'non installato'
[20:08] <cristian_c> e 'non installato (configurazione residua)'
[20:10] <ale123> https://imgur.com/N4sDhxX
[20:10] <ale123> https://imgur.com/EqHp6QK
[20:13] <cristian_c> ale123: dpkg -l | grep skype
[20:13] <cristian_c> !paste | ale123
[20:13] <ubot-it> ale123: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[20:13] <ale123> chiudo synaptic?
[20:14] <cristian_c> ale123: sì, un attimo, poi lo riapri
[20:15] <ale123> ale@ale-SATELLITE-C850D-10W:~$ dpkg -l | grep skype
[20:15] <ale123> ale@ale-SATELLITE-C850D-10W:~$
[20:15] <ale123> tutto qui.
[20:15] <Carlin0> ale123, copia sto comando tutto in un colpo nel terminale
[20:15] <Carlin0> ale123, → sudo dpkg --purge `COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l "*" | egrep "^rc" | cut -d\ -f3` | pastebinit
[20:16] <ale123> con la freccia iniziale non va. provo senza?
[20:16] <Carlin0> senza
[20:17] <Carlin0> da sudo in poi
[20:17] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13456143/
[20:18] <cristian_c> ale123: avevi un po' di roba bloccata
[20:19] <cristian_c> abiword, gnumeric, ecc..
[20:19] <cristian_c> ale123: come hai fatto a incasinare apt?
[20:20] <Carlin0> quelle erano solo conf residue , è normale che restino
[20:21] <Carlin0> ma provare a installare skype preso dal sito ?
[20:21] <ale123> non ne ho idea...... ho solo seguito un paio di guide
[20:21] <Carlin0> guide ufficiali ?
[20:21] <cristian_c> ale123: puoi evitare di seguire guide, come quella che hai linkato prima?
[20:21] <ale123> in realtà temo che ci siano problemi simili anche in altri pacchetti...perchè ho già dovuto reinstallare tutto da capo un paio di volte
[20:22] <ale123> sì sì, me l'avete già detto e vorrei capire che cosa devo scrivere sul browser per trovare guide ufficiali
[20:22] <Carlin0> !wiki | ale123
[20:22] <ubot-it> ale123: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org - http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GuidaWiki
[20:22] <cristian_c> ale123: beh, a meno che non sia una sport la formattazione periodica
[20:23] <cristian_c> ale123: ti suggerirei di seguire solo guide ufficiali
[20:23] <Carlin0> qui ci sono le guide ufficiali
[20:23] <cristian_c> ale123: e per il resto chiedere consiglio sulle risorse di supporto
[20:23] <cristian_c> invece che tentare l'avventura con google
[20:23] <ale123> ok, visto che come sport non mi esalta...
[20:24] <ale123> ora che faccio? provo davvero dal sito?
[20:24] <cristian_c> ale123: il sito ti farà scaricare un pacchetto deb
[20:24] <cristian_c> che potrai installare ad esempio facendo doppio clic su di esso
[20:26] <ale123> la versione più aggiornata che mi propone per scaricarla è la 12.04
[20:26] <cristian_c> ale123: non ha importanza
[20:26] <Carlin0> ale123, scarica la versione per 12.04 multiarch
[20:26] <ale123> ok
[20:29] <ale123> e purtroppo non va.. ora vi posto la foto
[20:29] <ale123> https://imgur.com/VyPczHU
[20:30] <Carlin0> ale123, ls Scaricati | pastebinit
[20:31] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13456611/
[20:31] <cristian_c> i386
[20:31] <cristian_c> skypena 32 bit
[20:32] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[20:32] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo dpkg -i Scaricati/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb | pastebinit
[20:33] <ale123> era l'unica versione che dava... ora ditemi chi devo seguire tra voi due :)
[20:33] <cristian_c> ale123: segui i comandi di carlino
[20:33] <Carlin0> ale123, dai i 2 comandi in sequenza com ete li ho scritti
[20:34] <cristian_c> ale123: il primo comando ti permetterà di installare i pacchetti a 32 bit sulla tua 64 bit
[20:34] <cristian_c> il secondo installerà il pacchetto di skype che hai appena scaricato
[20:34] <ale123> e invece.....http://paste.ubuntu.com/13456696/
[20:35] <Carlin0> mica ha dato errori ...
[20:35] <cristian_c> non vedo messaggi di errore
[20:35] <Carlin0> infatti
[20:35] <ale123> dpkg: errore nell'elaborare il pacchetto skype (--install):
[20:35] <ale123> problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato
[20:35] <ale123> Si sono verificati degli errori nell'elaborazione:
[20:35] <ale123> skype
[20:35] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13456696/
[20:36] <Carlin0> ma che pippone
[20:36] <Carlin0> fa i paste a metà
[21:18] <ale123> rieccomi!!! Ma che è successo?? Non si collegava più la chat...
[21:18] <Carlin0> ale123, non devi incolare in canale troppa roba
[21:18] <Carlin0> il bot s'incazza
[21:19] <Carlin0> ale123, hai fatto altro da quando sei uscito , o siamo al punto di prima ?
[21:19] <ale123> ...capito. Ora skype continua a non esserci.
[21:19] <ale123> siamo al punto di prima
[21:19] <Carlin0> siamo a buon punto fidati
[21:20] <Carlin0> ale123, dpkg -l | grep skype | pastebinit
[21:20] <ale123> mi fido, se no non sarei qui :)
[21:20] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458392/
[21:21] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo apt -f install | pastebinit
[21:21] <Carlin0> ma l'hai rimosso ?
[21:21] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458431/
[21:21] <ale123> ma cosa^
[21:21] <ale123> ?
[21:22] <Carlin0> ale123, ls Scaricati | pastebinit
[21:22] <ale123> l'unica cosa che ho fatto è stato correggere i pacchetti danneggiati da synaptic, perchè mi dava un brutto segnale di divieto d'accesso rosso sul pannello
[21:23] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458468/
[21:23] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo dpkg -i Scaricati/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb | pastebinit
[21:25] <ale123> Mi dà dpkg: errore nell'elaborare il pacchetto skype e poi dà http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458504/
[21:25] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo apt -f install | pastebinit
[21:26] <Carlin0> ma perchè mi fai i paste a metà ?
[21:27] <ale123> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts
[21:27] <Carlin0> ale123, metti tutto in paste
[21:28] <Carlin0> !paste
[21:28] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:28] <ale123> e non da report da postare... e io non faccio nulla a metà, a cosa ti riferisci?
[21:28] <cristian_c> ale123: molto semplicemente, digiti il comando e incolli interamente quello che vedi nel terminale su pastebin, seguendo le indicazioni del bot
[21:29] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458626/
[21:30] <cristian_c> ale123: senza pastebinit, stavolta
[21:31] <cristian_c> ale123: altrimenti, te lo si dava direttamente nel comando
[21:31] <Carlin0> ale123, e dopo la riga col warnig cosa c'è ?
[21:31] <ale123> non c'è nulla...
[21:32] <cristian_c> rc skype 4.3.0.37-1 i386 Wherever you are, wherever they are
[21:32] <cristian_c> Carlin0: non ha neanche incollato bene, suppongo
[21:32] <cristian_c> manca il get nel comando
[21:33] <Carlin0> va bene anche senza get
[21:33] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:33] <Carlin0> a meno che non sia la 12.04
[21:33] <ale123> me l'avete fatta scaricare voi la 12.04
[21:33] <cristian_c> ale123: ?
[21:34] <cristian_c> ale123: ma non sei su 14.04?
[21:34] <Carlin0> si lui dice skype
[21:34] <ale123> calma che se no ci perdiamo! quando ho dovuto scaricare dal sito, vi ho scritto che la più aggiornata che c'era era la 12.04 e voi mi avete detto di scaricarla lo stesso..
[21:35] <cristian_c> ale123: non è questo il punto
[21:35] <Carlin0> ale123, dpkg -l | grep skype | pastebinit
[21:35] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:35] <cristian_c> ale123: puoi digitare anche questo comando?
[21:35] <ale123> cosa devo fare ora che ho dato l'ultimo comando (sudo apt-get -f install)? ve lo posto, ve lo racconto?
[21:35] <cristian_c> !paste | ale123
[21:35] <ubot-it> ale123: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:35] <cristian_c> ale123: su su, non è difficile
[21:36] <cristian_c> ale123: l'hai letto il topic del canale?
[21:36] <cristian_c> è scritto anche lì
[21:37] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458780/
[21:38] <Carlin0> ale123, dpkg -l | grep skype | pastebinit
[21:38] <ale123> (cos'è il topic del canale? e cmq non l'ho letto...ma mi state confondendo perchè mi avete detto di non postare...mah)
[21:39] <cristian_c> !topic | ale123
[21:39] <ubot-it> ale123: per vedere il topic, scrivi /topic.
[21:39] <cristian_c> ehhh, male
[21:39] <cristian_c> è la prima cosa da leggere, quando si entra in un canale
[21:39] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458833/
[21:39] <cristian_c> ale123: mai detto di non postare
[21:40] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo apt purge skype
[21:40] <cristian_c> semplicemente ti si è detto di non incollare sequenze di righe in canale, ma di usare pastebin, come dice appunto il topic del canale
[21:40] <ale123> "senza pastebin"... pensavo intendeste questo... cmq dove lo scrivo /topic? sul browser?
[21:40] <ale123> ah ok. mi applico, perdonatemi.
[21:41] <cristian_c> ale123: pastebin è un servizio di paste dove incollare lunghi output
[21:41] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458875/
[21:41] <cristian_c> pastebinit è un programma che facilità l'upload degli output su pastebin, senza l'intervento dell'utente
[21:42] <cristian_c> in ogni caso, non ti si è mai detto di incollare gli output lunghi direttamente in canale
[21:42] <cristian_c> !pastebinit
[21:42] <ubot-it> pastebinit è la versione a linea di comando equivalente di !pastebin - L'output di un comando oppure del testo possono essere reindirizzati a pastebinit, il quale risponde con un URL contenente l'output - Per usare pastebinit, installare il pacchetto « pastebinit » dall'ubuntu software center - Esempio di utilizzo: comando | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:42] <ale123> ok, ripeto chiedo scusa
[21:42] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo dpkg --purge `COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l "*" | egrep "^rc" | cut -d\ -f3`
[21:43] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458908/
[21:44] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo dpkg -i Scaricati/skype-ubuntu-precise_4.3.0.37-1_i386.deb
[21:45] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458972/
[21:45] <ale123> (dice che ce l'ho già installato pastebinit...)
[21:46] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo apt -f install
[21:46] <cristian_c> !paste | ale123
[21:46] <ubot-it> ale123: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[21:47] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459024/
[21:47] <ale123> dico sì?
[21:47] <Carlin0> no
[21:48] <Carlin0> di no
[21:48] <Carlin0> poi dai
[21:48] <ale123> fatto
[21:48] <Carlin0> sudo apt install aptitude
[21:49] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459086/
[21:50] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo aptitude install skype:i386
[21:51] <Carlin0> dimmi cosa dice
[21:51] <ale123> tra l'altro, non so se possa servire, è sparito pure l'audio.....! :'(
[21:51] <Carlin0> una cosa alla volta
[21:52] <ale123> certo, era solo per vedere se poteva dare indizi maggiori sul problema. Cmq http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459166/
[21:53] <Carlin0> ale123, dai n e premi invio e fammi vedere cosa ti propone dopo
[21:54] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459207/
[21:56] <Carlin0> ale dai n come prima
[21:57] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459253/
[21:58] <ale123> no aspetta ho sbagliato
[21:58] <ale123> ah no, è giusto, scusami. è giusto
[21:59] <Carlin0> dai q
[22:00] <ale123> uscito
[22:00] <Carlin0> dovrebbe uscire
[22:00] <Carlin0> infatti
[22:00] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[22:01] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459358/
[22:03] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo aptitude --full-resolver
[22:03] <Carlin0> ale123, quando ha finito devi premere q per uscire
[22:05] <ale123> https://imgur.com/2WE4r3b è tutto giusto? è qui che devo dare q?
[22:05] <Carlin0> premi q poi tri chiede di uscire e ti sposti con le frecce sul si
[22:06] <ale123> fatto
[22:11] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[22:12] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459596/
[22:14] <cristian_c> ale123: sul forum di ubuntu un utente aveva lo stesso problema e dice che ha risolto
[22:14] <cristian_c> ale123: digitando i seguenti comandi, che ti posso elencare se vuoi
[22:14] <ale123> io ho cercato da ieri... prova a darmi il link e lo seguo passo passo
[22:15] <cristian_c> ale123: seguiamolo insieme, se vuoi
[22:15] <ale123> grazie
[22:16] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:16] <cristian_c> ale123: per ogni comando poi fornisci il paste
[22:16] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459686/
[22:19] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get purge skype
[22:20] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459748/
[22:21] <cristian_c> ale123: dpkg -l | grep skype
[22:21] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459782/
[22:22] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get purge skype:i386
[22:23] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459822/ dico si?
[22:24] <cristian_c> ale123: sì
[22:25] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459852/
[22:26] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get install libqtwebkit4
[22:27] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459927/
[22:28] <ale123> dico si?
[22:28] <cristian_c> ale123: sì
[22:29] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459974/
[22:31] <cristian_c> ale123: hai installato libqtwebkit, una dipendenza di skype
[22:31] <ale123> era questa che mancava?
[22:32] <cristian_c> bisogna vedere se a skype piace quella o vuole proprio la versione a 32 bit della dipendenza
[22:32] <Carlin0> lol
[22:32] <ale123> che devo fare? provo a lanciare skype?
[22:32] <cristian_c> ale123: l'errore te lo dava su quella: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459686/
[22:32] <cristian_c> è uno dei tuoi precedenti paste
[22:33] <ale123> sì ho visto. quindi che si fa?
[22:33] <cristian_c> mmmm
[22:34] <cristian_c> allora
[22:35] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get install skype
[22:35] <cristian_c> vediamo cosa dice e di cosa si lamenta or
[22:35] <cristian_c> a
[22:36] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460214/
[22:36] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get install -f
[22:37] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460252/
[22:38] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get install skype:i386
[22:39] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460303/
[22:39] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo apt-get install skype-bin:i386
[22:40] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460303/
[22:40] <ale123> no
[22:40] <cristian_c> ?
[22:41] <ale123> è questo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460375/
[22:47] <Carlin0> ale123, sudo apt install gdebi
[22:49] <ale123> cristian_c, ma ho 2 domande: 1) cosa ho sbagliato sbagliato a fare? 2) visto che ho una partizione a parte con la /home, non faccio prima a reinstallare tutto? In questo caso però mi devi dire quale guida seguire, perchè nelle due che mi avete indicato io non so come muovermi...
[22:49] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460586/
[22:49] <Carlin0> ale123, dai si
[22:50] <cristian_c> ale123: prima abbiamo tentato di installare il deb scaricato da terminale con dpkg
[22:50] <cristian_c> vediamo se gdebi lo installa visto che rispetto a dpkg, risolve anche le dipendenze
[22:50] <ale123> ok
[22:52] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460643/
[22:52] <Carlin0> ale123, dopo vai alla cartella scaricati clicchi sul file skype e scegli apri con → gdebi
[22:53] <ale123> https://imgur.com/RBEPNQr
[22:54] <cristian_c> vuole libqtwebkit:i386
[22:54] <cristian_c> tu hai installato libqtwebkit ma a 64 bit
[22:55] <ale123> ma nell'errore c'era anche un 4 prima di i386... cmq ditemi che devo fare..
[22:57] <ale123> (intanto ho trovato anche l'altra guida che avevo seguito per installare la scheda tv: magari mi ha fatto installare qualcosa che voi comprendete e possiamo correggere...http://www.istitutomajorana.it/forum/Thread-Vedere-la-TV-con-Pinnacle-PCTV-Hybrid-Pro-Stick-330e-e-VLC)
[22:58] <ale123> perchè prima funzionava tutto... anche l'audio :'(
[22:58] <cristian_c> non vedo nulla di inerente in quei comandi
[22:59] <Carlin0> infatti
[22:59] <Carlin0> ale123, chiudi gdebi
[22:59] <cristian_c> ale123: ultimo tentativo
[22:59] <cristian_c> ale123: dpkg -l | grep skype
[23:00] <ale123> solo che fatalità, dopo che ho riavviato, è comparsa la schermata azzurrina di Xubuntu e si è piantato tutto lì... ho dovuto dare ctrl+alt+c per cercare di riavviare, ma si è piantato tutto e ho dovuto reinstallare da capo...
[23:00] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460797/
[23:02] <cristian_c> ok
[23:02] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo aptitude install libqtwebkit4:i386
[23:04] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460879/
[23:05] <cristian_c> ale123: Y
[23:05] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460913/
[23:06] <cristian_c> ale123: Y
[23:08] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13460979/
[23:09] <cristian_c> ale123: sudo aptitude install libqtwebkit4:i386
[23:11] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13461064/
[23:11] <cristian_c> ale123: ok, non gli piace
[23:11] <cristian_c> dai Y come prima
[23:12] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13461081/
[23:14] <cristian_c> ale123: e se gli dici 'n' invece di 'Y', che cosa ti dice?
[23:16] <cristian_c> ale123: sta andando?
[23:16] <ale123> ora posto, cmq dice mille internal error
[23:17] <cristian_c> ?
[23:17] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13461238/ anche qui devo dare n?
[23:18] <cristian_c> ale123: digli di no
[23:18] <Carlin0> ale123, dai q
[23:19] <Carlin0> o ti rimuove mezzo os
[23:19] <ale123> aspetta... dico no o q?
[23:19] <Carlin0> con q esci
[23:19] <cristian_c> uhm, giusto, se no va avanti a proporre soluzioni
[23:19] <Carlin0> esatto
[23:20] <ale123> uscito
[23:20] <Carlin0> ma questa era già estrema
[23:21] <Carlin0> ale123, ti dirò quello che penso : in qualche modo hai incasinato l'OS in maniera irreparabile
[23:22] <cristian_c> ale123: vorrei vedere solo una cosa prima di consigliarti il ripristino
[23:22] <cristian_c> ale123: se dai: sudo apt-get install skype
[23:22] <ale123> la cosa buffa è che non ho praticamente fatto nulla... ho seguito quella guida senza installare skype quando lo proponeva, ho installato teamviewer e poi ho provato a scaricare skype..
[23:22] <ale123> provo
[23:23] <cristian_c> ale123: quel che è cambiato è che ti ho fatto rimuovere tutta una serie di pacchetti i386 mezzi installati
[23:23] <cristian_c> quindi la speranza è che alcuni problemi usciti quando tentavi di installare skype, se ne siano andati
[23:23] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13461367/
[23:24] <ale123> e invece.....
[23:24] <cristian_c> ale123: ok, vai di ripristino, i problemi sono a un livello più profondo, evidentemente
[23:24] <cristian_c> !ripristino
[23:24] <ubot-it> Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[23:24] <Carlin0> se reinstalli visto che hai la home separata meglio ancora
[23:25] <ale123> ok, ma per favore potete spiegarmi che guida seguire per sistemarlo? vi spiego una cosa:
[23:25] <cristian_c> ?
[23:26] <Carlin0> e non seguire guide non ufficiali
[23:26] <ale123> si, reinstallo e so come farlo, ma quando l'ho fatto una delle mille volte è successo questo: ho provato a installare subito gli aggiornamenti consigliati, prima di fare qualsiasi cosa, e si è bloccato lo schermo
[23:26] <ale123> quando invece seguo quella guida che mi fa aggiornare subito i Canonical o come si chiamano, non si pongono problemi
[23:26] <cristian_c> ale123: se l'hai fatto mille volte, non è normale
[23:26] <ale123> appunto!
[23:26] <ale123> che guida seguo?
[23:27] <ale123> o meglio: cosa digito nei due link che mi avete indicato ufficiali?
[23:27] <cristian_c> ale123: ci sono installazioni di ubuntu che ho tenuto per anni
[23:27] <cristian_c> senza toccarle
[23:27] <cristian_c> ale123: e le ho rimosse solo per fare posto a versioni più recenti
[23:28] <cristian_c> ma di base continuavano ad andare anche dopo molto tempo
[23:28] <Carlin0> ale123, se posso permettermi (qui mi cazzieranno) ma io ti consiglio la 32 bit , da molti meno problemi
[23:28] <ale123> pure io! Ho usato tutte le edizioni di Ubuntu dalla 12.04 in poi su questo pc senza problemi...
[23:28] <cristian_c> ale123: fai come suggerito da carlino, così per provare installa una 32 bit
[23:28] <ale123> io creo e modifico video e altro... vorrei qualcosa di leggero, stabile e funzionante... Xubuntu sembrava l'ideale..
[23:29] <cristian_c> e vedi se spariscono i problemi
[23:29] <cristian_c> ale123: ovviamente sempre senza smanettare con guide esterne
[23:29] <ale123> ok, provo e vi faccio sapere.
[23:29] <Carlin0> ale123, hai un motivo particolare per usare la 64 al posto della 32 ?
[23:29] <ale123> si ma voi indicatemi cosa scrivere sulle guide ufficiali per trovare i consigli post-installazione...
[23:30] <cristian_c> ale123: in tanti, compresi io e carlino usiamo da anni xfce, non è una cattiva scelta
[23:30] <ale123> no, il pc va a 64 e quindi ho messo la 64. Se mi dite che non mi crea problemi per i video ecc uso la 32
[23:30] <Carlin0> ale123, quanta ram hai ?
[23:30] <cristian_c> ale123: non sappiamo se la 64 ti crea problemi, è una prova
[23:30] <ale123> 2 gb...il pc è vecchiotto...e infatti con Ubuntu si piantava spesso
[23:31] <ale123> 4 gb, scusate
[23:31] <cristian_c> ale123: peraltro, non abbiamo capito quali problemi hai, post-installazione
[23:31] <ale123> ma datemi il comando per verificare la ram, che mi tolgo i dubbi per favore
[23:31] <Carlin0> 4 gb ... la 32 potrebbe non leggerle tutte
[23:32] <cristian_c> ale123: che cosa devi fare di particolare dopo l'installazione che ti crea così tanti problemi?
[23:32] <Carlin0> ale123, free
[23:32] <cristian_c> ale123: la 32 vede massimo 3 gb di ram
[23:32] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13461501/
[23:32] <Carlin0> appunto
[23:33] <ale123> come ho scritto sopra, quando ho finito la reinstallazione e riavviato, se scarico subito gli aggiornamenti proposti si pianta tutto
[23:33] <Carlin0> hai 4 gb e la scheda video che ciuccia dalla ram
[23:33] <Carlin0> quindi ti tocca la 64 bit
[23:33] <ale123> ecco
[23:35] <Carlin0> ale123, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:35] <ale123> per curiosità, sconsigliate le versioni remix del maiorana?
[23:35] <cristian_c> ale123: intendi i normali aggiornamenti di sistema?
[23:36] <cristian_c> ale123: hai installato quelle?
[23:36] <ale123> si, appena riavviato, si è aperto l'aggiornamento software e io ho dato ok, dopo di che a un certo punto schermo nero e tanti saluti
[23:36] <cristian_c> !buntu
[23:36] <ubot-it> Non tutto ciò che finisce per *buntu è ufficiale, non diamo supporto a derivate Ubuntu non ufficiali o non riconosciute. Supporto solo per http://www.ubuntu-it.org/progetti-derivati.shtml
[23:37] <cristian_c> ale123: qui non supportiamo derivate non ufficiali
[23:37] <ale123> no non ho usato altro che la xubuntu 14.04 lts ma ho visto in giro che qualcuno ha provato la remix e si è trovato bene
[23:37] <cristian_c> compreso quella delcmajorana
[23:37] <Carlin0> ale123, questo spiega molte cose
[23:37] <cristian_c> anche per questi motivi
[23:37] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13461605/
[23:38] <ale123> come ho detto, è una xubuntu ufficialissima... non avete comandi da darmi per dimostrarvelo?
[23:38] <cristian_c> ale123: lshw -C video
[23:39] <cristian_c> ale123: allora, ti dirò la mia: la 14.04 probabilmente è stata la release più sfigata
[23:39] <cristian_c> della storia recente di ubuntu
[23:39] <ale123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13461668/
[23:39] <ale123> che culo!
[23:39] <cristian_c> sopratutto con le point release
[23:39] <Carlin0> ha una apu amd
[23:40] <cristian_c> ale123: ad occhio e croce non sembra un pc vecchio
[23:40] <cristian_c> cpu e2 e radeon 73xxx
[23:40] <Carlin0> ale123, cmq non installare quelle del majorana
[23:40] <ale123> è un toshiba satellite c850d-10w di un paio di anni fa
[23:40] <Carlin0> è un apu
[23:40] <Carlin0> è tutto lì
[23:41] <ale123> cos'è un apu...?
[23:41] <cristian_c> ale123: infatti, non proprio vecchio, diciamo che è molto scarso, quello sì
[23:41] <cristian_c> ale123: apu = cpu + gpu insieme
[23:41] <cristian_c> che stanno nello stesso package
[23:41] <ale123> si lo so, ma a caval donato non si guarda in bocca, e questo sono riusciti a fare un gruppo di amici :)
[23:41] <ale123> morale che mi consigliate?
[23:42] <cristian_c> ale123: allora, se installi xubuntu 15.10 probabilmente troverai anche i driver proprietari per la gpu
[23:42] <cristian_c> ma a causa di un grave bug non puoi attualmente installarli sulla 15.10
[23:42] <ale123> ahahahah forse è meglio se torno a ubunntu?
[23:43] <cristian_c> ma tanto a te vanno bene anche i radeon, che con gli ultimi kernel vanno benon
[23:43] <cristian_c> ale123: non è questione
[23:43] <Carlin0> ale123, installa xubuntu ma usa i driver open
[23:43] <cristian_c> ale123: prova la 15.10 in live, e poi installala
[23:43] <cristian_c> tenendo i driver open per le radeon
[23:44] <ale123> quindi non flaggo quando chiede "scarica software di terze parti"?
[23:44] <cristian_c> senza tentare di installare i proprietari
[23:44] <cristian_c> ale123: fai una prova, io con 15.10 non ho ris0d
[23:44] <cristian_c> non ho riscontrato problemi per ora, anche se sono su intel
[23:45] <Carlin0> puoi flaggare basta che dopo installato l'OS non installi i driver
[23:45] <ale123> non li installo mai... credo...
[23:45] <cristian_c> ale123: oppure
[23:46] <cristian_c> ale123: il problema ce l'hai con gli aggiornamenti o con i terze parti durante l'installazione?
[23:46] <ale123> con gli aggiornamenti dopo il primo riavvio post installazione
[23:47] <Carlin0> tanto puoi attivare o aggiornare tutto anche dopo
[23:47] <cristian_c> ale123: quindi potrebbe essere il kernel
[23:47] <cristian_c> ale123: 14.04 se non sbaglio usa il kernel 3.19
[23:47] <cristian_c> memtre 15.10 usa il 4.2.0
[23:48] <ale123> quindi ricapitolando consigliate definitivamente la 15.10 a 64 bit, giusto?
[23:49] <cristian_c> ale123: sì
[23:49] <cristian_c> ma da provare prima, ovviamente
[23:49] <ale123> d'accordo, però provandole anche la 14.04 funzionava perfettamente...
[23:49] <cristian_c> ale123: se noti stranezze, non ti fare problemi a fare un salto qui
[23:49] <ale123> idem l'audio, che è appena magicamente sparito.... ma prima fungeva benissimo...
[23:50] <cristian_c> una volta installata
[23:50] <ale123> ok, grazie per l'aiuto...quasi 4 ore...io non so come fate. Grazie mille
[23:50] <cristian_c> ale123: i freeze come l'audio potrebbero essere questioni legate al kernel
[23:50] <cristian_c> sul tuo toshiba
[23:50] <cristian_c> viddo + audio
[23:50] <ale123> ma perchè all'inizio fungevano?
[23:50] <cristian_c> video
[23:51] <ale123> sia i video che l'audio fungevano benissimo inizialmente
[23:51] <ale123> anche skype...!
[23:51] <cristian_c> ale123: se fai gli aggiornamenti di sistema, questi generalmente includono anche aggiornamenti del kernel
[23:51] <cristian_c> ale123: ti consiglio di provare
[23:51] <Carlin0> prova xubuntu 15.10 vedrai che va meglio
[23:52] <ale123> mi applico. grazie ancora :)
[23:53] <cristian_c> ale123: e torna qui se hai problemi dopo l'installazione
[23:53] <Carlin0> buonanotte io vado
[23:53] <cristian_c> ale123: senza affidarti a blog vari
[23:53] <cristian_c> pure io
[23:53] <ale123> perfetto. buonanotte e grazie
[23:54] <cristian_c> di niente
[23:56] <d^_^b_> ragazzi sapete aiutarmi ad installare ubuntu sul tablet? grazie
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-es
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[10:43] <successus> salud o/
[11:00] <juajo> Hola
[11:01] <juajo> Tengo un problema a ver si me puede ayudar alguen Necesito guardar la salida de un comando interactivo en un archivo y no soy capaz
[11:01] <juajo> el comando es airodump-ng pero tengo el mismo problema con cuaquier comando inteactivo
[11:06] <mimecar> ¿no puedes redireccionar la salida?
[11:18] <juajo> no
[11:18] <juajo> no graba nada
[11:19] <juajo> alguna idea?
[11:20] <mimecar> http://askubuntu.com/questions/485495/how-to-both-display-a-command-lines-output-on-console-and-save-the-output-into
[11:58] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[16:15] <successus> salud o/
[18:52] <successus> salud
[18:59] <Konqi> hola
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2015-11-22-#juju
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[01:29] <jrwren> yes, and best hours are M-F 8am-10pm GMT
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.054676
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2015-11-22-#xubuntu
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[10:43] <thoma> Hi. In Xubuntu 15.10 these settings for lightdm (1.16.5-0ubuntu1) are not respected:
[10:44] <thoma> [SeatDefaults]
[10:44] <thoma> allow-guest=false
[10:44] <thoma> greeter-hide-users=true
[10:44] <thoma> greeter-show-manual-login=true
[10:45] <thoma> Somthing have changed I guess. I don't have lightdm.conf or lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf - any hint where this options now should reside? /etc/lightdm/users.conf?
[16:34] <JesusSavesMe> H
[16:34] <JesusSavesMe> Hi
[16:34] <JesusSavesMe> i got kernel panic
[16:36] <JesusSavesMe> Where can i find kernel panic log?
[16:50] <xubuntu654> help
[17:15] <m3n3chm0> JesusSavesMe /var/log/syslog
[17:18] <JesusSavesMe> So waht can i do with kernel panic?
[18:52] <ET__> Hi! I've got a weird keyboard glitch. Seems like it started after upgrading from xubuntu 15.04 (I think. maybe 14.10?) to 15.10. Anyways, every once in a while, my keyboard starts acting like I'm holding down the 5 key. e.g., I'll be watching YouTube, and I'll be stuck at 50% of the video, because my computer is spamming 5. Is system-wide. e.g. I can be in a text editor, and watch the 5's spammed into the tetx.
[18:52] <ET__> Anyone know what I can do to diagnose this? :S
[19:04] <function9x> ET__: how did you upgrade? Anything in the logs?
[19:05] <function9x> ET__: hostOS? or GuestOS?
[19:05] <ET__> I upgraded with a USB startup disk I made from the ISO.
[19:05] <ET__> What logs?
[19:06] <ET__> slash, where do I look?
[19:09] <function9x> ET__: chech the guestOS logs, it's in the folder, also check the xubuntu logs for any errors or discrepancies, especially the time the keyboard plays up
[19:10] <ET__> Misspoke - by "upgraded", I mean, I first upgraded with the software updater thing that asks if you want to upgrade. Then once the 5-glitch started happening, I reinstalled my computer from scratch with the USB stick. And now I get the glitch again. :S
[19:10] <function9x> ET__: /var/log/
[19:10] <function9x> brb kettle
[19:19] <ET__> Checked 'syslog' and 'kern.log'. They have messages about my mouse being detected on USB, but the time is about an hour before I saw the weirdness. There's about a dozen logfiles in here, plus (I assume) files from when the logs rotate? Anything else I should check?
[19:27] <function9x> ET__: fire up a terminal. tail -f /var/log/syslog
[19:28] <function9x> keep an eye on that when your keyboard plays up
[19:33] <ET__> k
[19:33] <ET__> Now to play the waiting game... :P Thanks!
[19:36] <function9x> np
[19:36] <function9x> bbl
[22:53] <Guest57798> hello
[22:53] <Guest57798> i has problem?
[22:54] <Guest57798> i ran unetbootin to install a new copy of xubuntu onto my hdd
[22:54] <Guest57798> twice
[22:54] <Guest57798> it not working
[22:55] <function9x> when you used unetbootin, did it give you an error
[22:55] <Guest57798> no errors
[22:55] <Guest57798> either time
[22:55] <function9x> ok
[22:56] <SlidingHorn> Hi, Guest57798, can you give some more details? What happens when you try to boot? (also, please try to keep responses to as few lines as possible) :)
[22:58] <Guest57798> its the strangest thing, my bios just immediately boots to this same installation without error, after i ran unet w an .iso to / , then reboot, then nope.jpg
[22:58] <Guest57798> it just comes back to this installation of xubuntu
[22:59] <Guest57798> and i cant even boot from USB devices
[23:01] <knome> wait, what? you are "installing" xubuntu with unetbootin, without USB or CD?
[23:04] <Guest57798> USB refuses to boot
[23:05] <knome> are you going what i asked?
[23:05] <knome> or something else?
[23:05] <eight_> Did you check your bios G57798
[23:05] <Guest57798> yes, and yes. i am "installing" xubuntu with unet
[23:05] <knome> Guest57798, you can't do that.
[23:06] <knome> Guest57798, or you can, but you will not end up with an installation
[23:06] <Guest57798> how come? what am i doing wrong?
[23:07] <Guest57798> should i #dd if ?
[23:07] <knome> you can create installation media with unetbootin, not installed systems
[23:07] <knome> you can't install xubuntu directly with unetbootin, you need some media
[23:11] <Guest57798> so what am i essentially doing when i run unet
[23:14] <knome> creating installation media
[23:15] <eight_> So, if I replaced xfwm with Compiz, and the new version of Xubuntu made the window decorator use the cairo theme rather than gtk, how would I set that back?
[23:17] <knome> are you talking about window decorations or something else now?
[23:18] <eight_> Yeah, the decorator
[23:19] <knome> i don't think xfwm themes work with compiz
[23:19] <eight_> You had to set it in dconf
[23:20] <eight_> But the key is depreciated in the new Gnome system?
[23:21] <knome> i don't know, but i don't think xfwm themes have ever worked with compiz
[23:21] <knome> i'd ask some compiz channel, they can likely answer your question
[23:24] <eight_> I tried, but they seem a bit dead
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-uk
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[10:18] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:19] <bittin_> morning
[10:22] <brobostigon> morning bittin_
[18:02] <diddledan> ello
[18:02] <diddledan> I is 'ere
[18:02] <diddledan> who missed me? :-p
[18:16] <popey> http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[18:16] <diddledan> lol
[18:22] <penguin42> popey: why?
[18:23] <popey> penguin42, hey!
[18:23] <popey> penguin42, I only recently discovered (or re-discovered) that you are the author of BeebEm
[18:24] * penguin42 nods
[18:24] <penguin42> popey: It's kind of crazy, I wrote it ~20 years ago and haven't done anything with it for ages, in the mean time people have ported it all over and added loads of peripherals and stuff
[18:26] * popey wishes there was an SDL2 port :)
[18:26] <penguin42> should be pretty easy to do
[18:29] <popey> heh
[19:05] <MartijnVdS> I see a volunteer :P
[19:05] <penguin42> yeh, I expect to see a Ubuntu phone running Monsters
[19:06] <penguin42> hmm, actually; I bet you could fly rocket-raid using acclerometers
[19:07] <mapp> good tv night tonight;]
[19:18] <popey> ugh, autoconf
[19:18] <daftykins> lul
[19:18] <daftykins> mapps: still nippy down there?
[19:24] <popey> bah, don't understand this at all.
[20:55] <foobarry> i've used that many a time
[20:55] <foobarry> beebem that is
[21:00] <bittin_> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9xw7H-ekV7Sa2VwZnJETXVxZ2M&usp=sharing
[21:21] <bittin_> http://a.pomf.cat/povyxw.jpeg
[22:18] <daftykins> bittin_: what are these links?
[22:19] <bittin_> daftykins: a picture from a book and some movies from a club
[22:19] <daftykins> suspicious looking to me, so i'll pass :)
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-de
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[00:08] <pixelbyte> guten tag
[00:09] <pixelbyte> wie kann ich ps ax den kompletten befehlspfade anzeigen lassen?
[00:09] <pixelbyte> terminal ist zu klein
[00:11] <krytarik> pixelbyte: "ps ax | less"
[00:12] <pixelbyte> danke supi
[00:12] <nagetier> kakashiAL, wenn deine Karte das kann, ja
[00:13] <kakashiAL> ich habe ein thinkpad x230
[00:13] <kakashiAL> weiß nicht ob er das supportet
[00:16] <nagetier> kann ich jetzt auch nicht sagen, müsste mich einlesen.. das ist aber deine Aufgabe. Hier wird beschrieben wie man vorzugehen hat - https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Howto/Hotspot_auf_PC_einrichten,
[00:17] <nagetier> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Howto/Hotspot_auf_PC_einrichten
[00:21] <nagetier> pixelbyte, und, wie bist du vorgegangen, fehlt dir noch der RAM?
[00:22] <pixelbyte> nagetier: ja aber ich könnten ihm 4 gb abringen aber der grossteils ist immer noch loss in ubuntu
[00:31] <nagetier> pixelbyte, kann dir nur vorschlagen hier nochmal zu einer günstigeren Uhrzeit nachzufragen und den Fall zu schildern, wenn es dir das möglich ist..
[00:31] <nagetier> -es
[00:33] <pixelbyte> nagetier, das könnte ich nur morgen mittag oder früher Abend machen
[00:33] <nagetier> das wäre doch super
[00:35] <pixelbyte> gut mache ich
[00:37] <nagetier> pixelbyte, du sprachst gestern kurz vor deinem verschwinden von einer RAM-Disk.. was hat es damit auf sich?
[00:37] <pixelbyte> die starte gleich bei booten
[00:37] <pixelbyte> laut dmesg
[00:37] <nagetier> hm.. und die ist es nicht, die dir den RAM saugt?
[00:37] <pixelbyte> das weiss ich nicht
[00:38] <nagetier> dmesg sollte dir eigentlich sagen wie groß die ist
[00:38] <nagetier> da die aber nicht in df auftauscht, vermute ich die wird vom Kernel oder dem System verwendet.. und dürfte nur ein paar wenige MB groß sein.. glaube das ist ganz normal
[00:39] <nagetier> -s
[00:40] <pixelbyte> [ 0.000000] RAMDISK: [mem 0x340c2000-0x36058fff]
[00:40] <nagetier> ja, das ist ok so
[00:41] <nagetier> [ 0.000000] RAMDISK: [mem 0x34006000-0x35ffafff]- mein Eintrag
[00:45] <pixelbyte> hm
[00:53] <mgolisch> hm
[00:54] <mgolisch> zeigt df -h denn an das eines der tmpfs doll belegt ist? ansonsten ist es eher was anderes
[00:54] <mgolisch> hast irgendwelche krassen kernel parameter gesetzt?
[00:56] <pixelbyte> nein
[00:57] <pixelbyte> nur grup, habe dort für virtualisierung das eingestellt mehr aber nicht
[00:57] <pixelbyte> mgolisch:
[00:58] <mgolisch> was haste das eingestellt?
[00:59] <pixelbyte> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash amd_iommu=on vfio_iommu_type1.allow_unsafe_interrupts=1"
[00:59] <pixelbyte> das wars
[01:02] <mgolisch> hm
[01:04] <nagetier> würde das System ja gerne mal im 'init 1' sein, nur ist mir derzeit nicht klar wie man das über systemd ermöglicht
[01:04] <nagetier> s/sein/sehen/
[01:07] <nagetier> auch systemd könnte man sich mal ansehen.. aber auch da bin ich raus, spontan kann ich das nicht
[01:09] * nagetier waagerechte
[01:09] <mgolisch> gute nacht
[10:01] <user_noop> hallo, ich kann python nicht nutzen, bekomme Fehler! Hier die Ausgabe am Terminal: http://pastebin.com/YTPKTuMs kurz gesagt, "sudo apt-get install idle-python2.7" endet mit "Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
[10:01] <user_noop> idle-python2.7
[10:01] <user_noop> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[10:21] <jokrebel> sudo apt-get -f install schon versucht?
[10:25] <jokrebel> user_noop:
[10:28] <jokrebel> user_noop: In welchem Ubuntu ist das denn?
[10:30] <jokrebel> na dann mach ich einstweilen wieder was anderes...
[10:48] <gugaua> Hallo, auf meinen Ubuntu Server ist heute mein Speicher ausgegangen. Virtualbox hat meine VMs angehalten jedoch bekomme ich nun einen Fehler das die .vbox einen Fehler hat und wahrscheinlich von Hand repariert werden muss... kann mir jemadn helfen?
[10:50] <user_noop> jokrebel: (x)ubuntu 15.10 nehme ich mal an
[10:53] <jokrebel> user_noop: Wenn Du es nur annimmst dann überprüf es lieber und NoPaste uns ein "lsb_release -a" und ein "uname -a"
[10:53] <user_noop> uname -a : Linux user_noop 4.2.0-19-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Wed Nov 11 11:38:40 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:55] <user_noop> No LSB modules are available.
[10:55] <user_noop> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[10:55] <user_noop> Description: Ubuntu 15.10
[10:55] <user_noop> Release: 15.10
[10:55] <user_noop> Codename: wily
[10:56] <gugaua> Bin ich mit meiner Frage hier eh richtig?
[10:57] <jokrebel> user_noop: NoPasten ist _nicht_ direkt in den Kanal kippen :-/
[10:58] <jokrebel> Und versuchtest Du schon was ich um 11:21 schrieb`user_noop
[10:58] <user_noop> jokrebel, sorry, das hatte ich nicht verstanden, da ich in der ersten Frage schon past bin genommen hatte, dachte ich NoPaste heißt: no past bin
[10:58] <jokrebel> gugaua: So halbwegs bestimmt
[11:00] <user_noop> jokrebel, ja, apt-get -f install hatte ich, da kommt der gleiche Fehler bei raus
[11:01] <user_noop> jokrebel, und ein "dpkg --configure -a" habe ich auch schon gemacht
[11:01] <jokrebel> user_noop: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade läuft fehlerfrei durch
[11:02] <user_noop> das teste ich mal....
[11:03] <user_noop> jokrebel, apt und nicht apt-get ja?
[11:03] <jokrebel> und es steht auch kein nötiger Reboot mehr aus? Wie kommst Du überhaupt zu Kernel 4.2.0-19? Ich hab hier noch -18 und bin angeblich aktuell.
[11:03] <jokrebel> user_noop: ja
[11:05] <user_noop> jokrebel, wie der Name schon andeutet, kann ich dir nicht sagen wie ich zu der Version komme. Mache halt immer schön die Updates, wenn es angezeigt wird ;-)
[11:05] <user_noop> jokrebel, full_upgrade endet ebenfalls im Fehler!
[11:07] <jokrebel> user_noop: Na dann NoPaste mal die komplette Ein- und Ausgabe von "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:07] <user_noop> ups, erst mal teil II
[11:07] <user_noop> da wo der Fehler auftritt: http://pastebin.com/C44ZH2Fy
[11:10] <user_noop> jokrebel, komplett ist das so: http://pastebin.com/spydu7mA aber der erste Teil macht keine Fehler....
[11:11] <user_noop> jokrebel, wenn ich jetzt neu starte, kann ich dann hier einfach wieder so einloggen? Oder warte ich mit dem Neustart
[11:13] <jokrebel> user_noop: Warum solltest Du nicht wieder hier joinen können? verstehe die Frage nicht.
[11:13] <user_noop> jokrebel, ich lese zusätzlich noch was ich bei google so finden. hätte ich Dir sagen müssen, das ich eine 32bit maschine habe?
[11:13] <locodir-user> IST DAS HIER AUF FREENODE?
[11:13] <locodir-user> sorry caps
[11:15] <jokrebel> locodir-user: ja
[11:15] <locodir-user> ok danke ^^
[11:15] <locodir-user> bin grad in der installation - is grad abgeschlossen muss neu starten.
[11:15] <locodir-user> bye
[11:16] <jokrebel> user_noop: Ist dieses idle-python2.7 Paket vielleicht aus einem Deiner PPAs? Hier lässt sich das jedenfalls Fehlerfrei installieren.
[11:17] <jokrebel> user_noop: Nö - in dem Fall nicht. Hab hier auch nen 32bit(er)
[11:19] <freakyy> so da bin ich wieder diesmal nach der installation
[11:19] <freakyy> :)
[11:19] <freakyy> gibt es nen gutes terminal das auch tabs unterstützt?
[11:19] <freakyy> und, ich hab ne ati grafikkarte im laptop - läuft das schon so gut oder muss ich nach der installation noch was machen?
[11:20] <freakyy> ich hab gerade windows runter geschmissen aus versehen noch die recovery partitions gelöscht naja, jetzt bleib ich wohl bei ubuntu ;D
[11:21] <olymbus> das ist doch gut
[11:21] <jokrebel> freakyy: Was hast Du denn installiert. Meist ist da bereits ein Terminal enthalten, welches auch mehrere Tabs verwalten kann.
[11:21] <freakyy> ubuntu 15.10
[11:21] <freakyy> oder sagt man 10.15?
[11:21] <jokrebel> nö
[11:21] <olymbus> eher 15.10
[11:22] <Frickelpit> jahr.monat
[11:22] <David1977> die Zahl nach der Versionsnummer bestimmt den Monat wann es veröffentlich wurde
[11:22] <jokrebel> bei 15.10 sollte das gnome-terminal dabei sein welches TAB kann.
[11:22] <freakyy> ok also, das standard terminal macht keien tabs
[11:23] <freakyy> ah doch ;D
[11:23] <freakyy> kann man einstellen danke ;D
[11:23] <freakyy> ok also was ich ejtzt als erstes brauche is owncloud
[11:23] <David1977> steht unterhhalb des Terminals sowas wie: username:bash?
[11:23] <freakyy> das installier ich mir jetzt mal
[11:23] <freakyy> rechts ja
[11:23] <freakyy> links nein
[11:23] <freakyy> oberhalb
[11:23] <freakyy> aber ihc habs schon danke
[11:23] <freakyy> konnte man umstellen auf tabs
[11:24] <David1977> Dann mach mal auf der linken seite einen Doppelklick. Da wo es nicht steht
[11:24] <user_noop> jokrebel, also mal alle ppa abstellen? Teste ich mal
[11:26] <jokrebel> user_noop: Vielleicht ist das Paket ja auch einfach nur schon kaputt heruntergeladen. Versuch es nochmal zu entfernen ("sudo apt purge <paketname>") und anschließend noch neu herunterladen und installieren.
[11:26] <tessarakt3> ich habe Probleme mit dem grafischen Login
[11:26] <freakyy> frage,gibt es einen ubuntu owncloud client?
[11:26] <freakyy> der auch immer aufm aktuellen stand is?
[11:27] <tessarakt3> SDDM startet, wenn ich mich dann einloggen will, wechselt er kurz in den Textmodus und dann kommt wieder der Login-Screen
[11:27] <user_noop> jokrebel, danke, das teste ich mal. "apt purge" geht schon mal ohne fehler....
[11:29] <user_noop> jokrebel, sudo apt-get install <paketname> hat allerdings den gleichen Fehler wie zuvor. (alle nicht Ubuntu Paketquellen sind abgeschaltet) hmmm?
[11:31] <user_noop> jokrebel, der Fehler scheint ja aber auch bei der konfiguration zu sein? In http://pastebin.com/C44ZH2Fy steht ja was von: idle-python2.7 (2.7.10-4ubuntu1) wird eingerichtet ...
[11:35] <jokrebel> user_noop: Wie hast Du denn die "nicht-ubuntu-Quellen abgeschalten"? Und hast Du danach auch ein "update" ausgeführt und die Pakete aus diesen Quellen entfernt?
[11:36] <jokrebel> und wo du den -19er Kernel her hast wissen wir auch immer noch nicht.
[11:38] * jokrebel ist mal ne Zeit weg vom Rechner
[11:40] <user_noop> jokrebel, ich habe mal synaptic angeworfen, und da kann ich alles einfach abhaken.... dann sowohl in synaptic als auch am termial paketquellen neu geladen....
[11:41] <user_noop> ne, wo ich den -19er kernel her habe weiss ich nicht. (was auch immer das bedeuten mag ;-)
[11:45] <tessarakt3> hmmm ...
[11:45] <tessarakt3> habe jetzt kde-telepathy runtergeschmissen ... jetzt konfiguriert er einen Haufen Zeugs
[11:45] <tessarakt3> vielleicht war das ja das Problem
[11:49] <tessarakt3> nö, leider nicht
[11:49] <tessarakt3> ach, das ist doch alles doof ...
[11:50] <tessarakt3> da traut man sich echt nicht mehr, irgendwas zu upgraden ...
[11:50] <freakyy> hi. benutzt hier jemand owncloud und weiss wie ich das owncloud in die taskbar kriege?
[11:57] <freakyy> wie heisst nochmal der applauncher links in ubuntu?
[11:57] <freakyy> ubiquity war der installer
[11:58] <Frickelpit> unity
[12:00] <ring0> freakyy, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Unity/Unity_Startmen%C3%BC
[12:01] <tessarakt3> hmm - gdm geht, als einziger Display-Manager ...
[12:01] <freakyy> wie kann ich denn bitte im terminal copy& paste machen hier jetzt copy?
[12:01] <David1977> shift+strg+v
[12:02] <David1977> shift+strg+c für copy
[12:02] <David1977> oder im Terminal rechtsclick für paste
[12:09] <freakyy> David1977: geht das nicht einfacher?
[12:09] <freakyy> einfach wie im putty termianl markiern und shcon macht er copy?
[12:10] <David1977> putty != shell terminal
[12:10] <David1977> und ich finde es nicht kompliziert
[12:11] <freakyy> es is mir zu viel arbeit ich habs jetzt auf strg+c bzw strg+v umgelegt
[12:11] <freakyy> aber am liebsten hätte ich dass man urls im termian klicken kann aber naja
[12:11] <freakyy> man kann ja ned alles ahben ;D
[12:11] <jokrebel> freakyy: Man kann im Terminal markieren und dann ist es in der Ablage die Du per mittlerer Maustaste pasten kannst.
[12:11] <Hootch> freakyy: was im terminal mit der maus markiert wird, ist bereits im puffer und kann mit rechter maustaste eingefügt werden. putty (windows denk ich) musst du enter für copy drücken und rechte maustaste für paste.
[12:12] <Hootch> stimmt :) mittlere
[12:12] <ring0> auch links im terminal klicken geht einwandfrei, einfach strg drücken und klicken…
[12:13] <freakyy> oh ja es funktioniert wunderbar :D
[12:13] <freakyy> strg+linksklick
[12:13] <jokrebel> und mein terminal kann Urls erkennen die ich dann per rechtsklick "link öffnen" direkt im Browser ansehn kann.
[12:13] <ring0> hauptsache unwissend rummeckern
[12:13] <freakyy> Hootch: ich rede hier von dem terminal in ubuntu ... bei markieren wird das nicht in zwischenablage gestellt
[12:14] <jokrebel> freakyy: Linux kennt mehrere Zwischenablagen ;-)
[12:14] <freakyy> das ist schlecht wenns ind er flaschen is
[12:14] <freakyy> naja mal rumprobiern - danke :D
[12:15] <jokrebel> wie gesagt - Mittelklick pastet was vorher im Terminal markiert wurde...
[12:15] <ring0> und strg + v fügt ein, was strg + c kopiert hat
[12:15] <ring0> :)
[12:15] <freakyy> ja das scheint nicht ganz zu funktioniern - bin hier in weechat und das kontrolliert wohl die maus klicks
[12:16] <jokrebel> und anstatt "meckern und probieren" könnte man auch "lesen und verstehen" anwenden (hier die diversen Artikel im Ubuntuusers-Wiki)
[12:17] <freakyy> wie gesagt ich bin hier über ssh auf nem screen terminal in weechat
[12:17] <freakyy> da funktioniert wohl nciht alles so wie ihrs grad beschrieben habt
[12:17] <freakyy> da hilft mir auch die doku nicht weiter
[12:17] <freakyy> da muss ich umstellen und so weiter
[12:17] <freakyy> werd ich schon hinkriegen - danke
[12:18] <jokrebel> freakyy: Alles ne Einstellungssache ;-) Auch mit nem Terminal das über ssh/byobu/mosh/tmux zu weechat verbunden ist geht das ;-)
[12:18] <freakyy> also wenn ich mittlere maustaste klicke wird der cursor da hin verschoben wo ich hinklicke
[12:19] <jokrebel> freakyy: Da können sich dann schon die ein oder anderen Einstellungen gegenseitig in die Quere kommen. Da kann aber das Terminal nichts dafür. Und Ubuntu schon gleich gar nicht.
[12:47] <p01nt3r> guten tag. ist es möglich, cpu-temperaturen auszulesen, ohne irgendwas zu installieren?
[12:48] <p01nt3r> das minimalste, was ich bisher fand, war lm-sensors (aber eben auch wieder per installation).
[12:49] <dadrc> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[12:49] <dadrc> wenn die richtigen kernelmodule geladen sind
[12:51] <p01nt3r> dadrc welche da wären?
[12:52] <dadrc> kommt auf die CPU an, meistens passiert das sowieso
[12:52] <dadrc> eventuell noch coretemp, weiß ich spontan nicht
[12:54] <p01nt3r> dadrc: hier bei einem amd x2 6000+ scheinbar nicht.
[12:55] <dadrc> ist überhaupt was in /sys/class/thermal?
[12:56] <Frickelpit> p01nt3r: bei AMD heißen die Module powernow. http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Prozessortaktung#Kernel-Module
[12:57] <dadrc> ansonsten, könnte auch noch in /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/temp*_input sein
[13:03] <freakyy> kann man mit den ati treibern von "updates" was anfangen oder sollte man den ati treiber selber compiliern etc.?
[13:03] <freakyy> vor 10 jahren war das noch so dass man am besten den treiber selber compiliert hat
[13:03] <freakyy> und kernel modul etc.
[13:04] <dadrc> macht nur ärger, wenn irgendwie möglich, die paketierten versionen nehmen
[13:04] <freakyy> ok ich hoffe die treiber sind gut
[13:04] <freakyy> ;D
[13:04] <freakyy> hab ich grad gemacht - so jetzt mus sich schätzungsweise pc neu startten - brb
[13:05] <p01nt3r> dadrc: unter /sys/class ist etwas, jedoch finde ich nicht, was genau ich da von wo brauche. geladen ist das kernelmodul "powernow_k8"
[13:05] <dadrc> hwmon?
[13:08] <p01nt3r> dadrc: meinst du jetzt als portable anwendung oder unterhalb von /proc?
[13:09] <dadrc> p01nt3r, sorry, bisschen zu kurz: gibt es /sys/class/hwmon?
[13:11] <p01nt3r> jap
[13:12] <dadrc> und /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/temp1_input?
[13:13] <p01nt3r> bis ../device schon, aber dort kein "temp1_input"
[13:14] <dadrc> sicher, dass das Ding überhautp Temperatursensoren hat?
[13:14] <p01nt3r> jap, kann sie wie gesagt mit "lm-sensors" ja auslesen
[13:14] <dadrc> hmhm
[13:14] <dadrc> ist das Kernelmodul k8temp geladen?
[13:15] <p01nt3r> jap
[13:16] <p01nt3r> quak nein scheinbar nicht
[13:16] <p01nt3r> da steht nur eine fünfstellige zahl und dahinter eine null.
[13:17] <p01nt3r> ist es dann schon geladen? gute frage ^^
[13:17] <dadrc> sudo modprobe k8temp, danach sollte es auf jeden fall geladen sein
[13:18] <p01nt3r> ist scheinbar geladen, wird aber nicht genutzt
[13:18] <p01nt3r> (wenn ich die "0" richtig interpretiere
[13:19] <dadrc> nö, das ist ok
[13:20] <dadrc> keine ahnung, wo das modul die werte dann ablegt
[13:22] <p01nt3r> sehe gerade, da ist zwar ein "temp1_input" unter "hwmon1/device", da steht aber nur eine 23000 drin.
[13:25] <jokrebel> was ist so schlimm an der Abfrage über den Befehl "sensors"?
[13:26] <p01nt3r> er muss installiert werden
[13:26] <jokrebel> schröcklisch
[13:27] <p01nt3r> wenn durch ein "sudo purge lm-sensors" wirklich ALLES vom system entfernt wird, kann ich auch damit leben und muss halt etwas basteln...
[13:27] <p01nt3r> apt-get purge meinte ich
[13:28] <p01nt3r> es geht darum, einen kunden-pc möglichst im ur-zustand zu belassen
[13:29] <jokrebel> lm-sennsors: Größe 416 kB - sehr wichtig, dass man das los wird. Was genau willst Du damit erreichen? Platz einsparen kann es ja kaum sein.
[13:30] <p01nt3r> es soll einfach keine spuren hinterlassen
[13:31] <Hootch> haltet doch bitte den guten ton, die sache entgleist etwas
[13:32] <p01nt3r> ich würde das einfach drauf lassen und den rechner so rausschicken, aber erklär das mal meinem chef ^^
[13:33] <nagetier> ich fände es gut, hätte mir jemand das Auslesen der Sensoren schon eingerichtet
[13:34] <jokrebel> p01nt3r: Wenn ich an einem Kunden-PC zur Fehlersuche ein kleines Tool zur Analyse verschiedener PC-Parameter installiere ist das doch im Sinne des Kunden. Kann das ehrlich gesagt nicht nachvollziehen.
[13:34] <p01nt3r> ein weiteres problem ist dann ein evtl. herumhantieren mit verschiedenen nutzern zur de-/installation von sensors, was einfach mehr aufwand bedeutet.
[13:34] <jokrebel> Hootch: Wie meinst Du das?
[13:56] <jokrebel> p01nt3r: Wieso muss man da mit mehreren Nutzern rumhantieren? Du installierst und deinstallierst doch immer per sudo. Oder von welchem OS reden wir überhaupt?
[14:01] <p01nt3r> jokrebel: ich teste das hier auf einem ubuntu bzw. debian. an der arbeit wird das steam os sein.
[14:05] <p01nt3r> unter debian muss ich mich dann ja evtl. von user steam zum user root ummelden um das dort dann zu installieren
[14:07] <bekks> Wir sind aber nicht bei Debian.
[14:07] <bekks> Und auch bei Debian kann man sudo nutzen.
[14:07] <jokrebel> aber halt nicht unter Ubuntu, was hier Kanal-Thema ist. :-/
[14:08] <bekks> m(
[14:49] <freakyy> hi all. ich hab jetzt versucht den ati treiber unter zusätzliche treiber zu installieren, jedoch, sieht man nach einem reboot reagiert der pc ganz langsam, der bildschirm zeigt farbige linien und ist deplatziert also das bild geht rechts raus und fängt links wieder an
[14:49] <freakyy> kann mir da jemand helfen?
[14:51] <jokrebel> einfach das letzte wieder rückgängig machen?
[14:52] <freakyy> jokrebel: ja hab ich ja aber ich will nen treiber der funktioniert
[14:53] <jokrebel> und der den Du vorher hattest funktioniert auch nur mit Fehlern?
[14:53] <martin05112015> servus
[14:56] <jokrebel> freakyy: Was sagt denn lspci bzw. lsusb über Deine Grafikkarte? Und was für Ubuntu-Version/-Desktop war das noch mal?
[14:58] <freakyy> ich hab 15.10 und lspci sagt VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[15:00] <martin05112015> wieso kriege ich dieses doofe tearing nicht weg
[15:02] <freakyy> jokrebel
[15:05] <jokrebel> freakyy und der den Du vorher hattest funktioniert auch nur mit Fehlern?
[15:05] <freakyy> jokrebel: nein den den ich vorher hatte das war der open source treiber
[15:06] <mrkramps> freakyy, und welches problem hattest du mit dem freien treiber?
[15:06] <freakyy> der is zu langsam
[15:06] <freakyy> und unterstützt nicht alles
[15:06] <freakyy> ich will den ati treiber
[15:06] <mrkramps> es ist ein amd treiber
[15:07] <mrkramps> und welchen amd treiber hast du installiert?
[15:07] <freakyy> jetzt grad keinen ich versuch jetzt den von der ati website zu installiern
[15:08] <jokrebel> oO
[15:08] <freakyy> ich hoffe es funktioniert
[15:08] <mrkramps> jokrebel, irgendwann werden die es verstehen … irgendwann
[15:08] <Hootch> martin05112015: welche grafikkarte hast du?
[15:08] <martin05112015> 540m
[15:08] <martin05112015> leider
[15:08] <martin05112015> und egal mit welchem treiber ich habe immer tearing
[15:09] <martin05112015> und mit bumblebee oder wie das heisst geht es auch nicht
[15:09] <martin05112015> irgendwie da zerschieße ich mir immer die x config
[15:09] <mrkramps> martin05112015, also hybridgrafik? intel + nvidia?
[15:09] <martin05112015> jo
[15:09] <martin05112015> leider
[15:09] <bekks> Schön dass du uns das gestern nicht gesagt hast ;)
[15:09] <nagetier> freakyy, hattest du denn auch mal einen anderen treiber als den aktuellen im paketmanager versucht?
[15:10] <mrkramps> nagetier, das ist er gerade bei ;)
[15:10] <nagetier> nicht wirklich ;)
[15:10] <mrkramps> martin05112015, und welche karte wird aktiv verwendet?
[15:10] <martin05112015> ich habe das gestern gesagt bei dem ppq
[15:10] <martin05112015> also laut nvidia x server settings meine 540m
[15:11] <Hootch> öhm, ohne jetzt tante google zu fragen. hersteller ist?
[15:11] <Hootch> martin05112015: probier mal: -> nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }"
[15:11] <martin05112015> ok
[15:11] <Hootch> und dann ein testvideo wie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xkNy9gfKOg
[15:11] <bekks> martin05112015: Was du nicht sagtest, war, dass du eine Hybridkarte hast.
[15:11] <bekks> Dass du eine 540m hast, sagtest du, ja.
[15:11] <martin05112015> ach so
[15:11] <martin05112015> ich dachte es wäre bekannt das es so eine hybrid ist sry
[15:12] <martin05112015> mein fehler
[15:12] <mrkramps> martin05112015, wenn intel verwendet wird, muss tearfree aktiviert werden, wenn nvida dann was Hootch sagt
[15:12] <freakyy> nagetier: nein ... an diese experimentellen komm ich auch ned ran - sagt could not find
[15:13] <jokrebel> bekks: Also ich wusste es; muss er also wohl auch erwähnt haben.
[15:13] <freakyy> wily wird ja untersützt vom amd website treiber jetzt muss er nurnoch die kernel header finden
[15:13] <freakyy> hoffe mal es klappt
[15:13] <freakyy> ansonsten gefällt mir ubuntu, hab grad windows runtergehaun dafür ;D
[15:14] <nagetier> freakyy, ältere sind eigentlich nicht experimentell
[15:14] <freakyy> nagetier: wie heissen denn die älteren?
[15:14] <freakyy> package name
[15:14] <martin05112015> also wenn ich den befehl eingebe von hootch dann kommt befehl nicht gefunden
[15:14] <nagetier> freakyy, da müsste ich jetzt selber schauen.. sie haben eine kleine versionsnummer als der aktuelle, für gewöhnlich
[15:14] <nagetier> kleinere*
[15:15] <Hootch> martin05112015: sofern es eine nvidia karte ist, solltest du auch die treiber installiert haben. Wird der Befehl nicht gefunden, keine nvidia treiber da
[15:15] <nagetier> wenn der aktuelle nicht zufriedenstellend ist, würde ich jedenfalls ersteinmal diesen weg gehen
[15:15] <martin05112015> ne jetzt ging es habe den pfeil weg gemacht im befehl am anfang
[15:15] <freakyy> nagetier: hm ok ... wenn das mit dem treiber von der amd website nicht klappt probier ich das mal ... aber so ungefähr wie der paketname heisst weisste auch ned?
[15:16] <Hootch> nagetier: :D
[15:16] <nagetier> paketname sollte identisch sein
[15:16] <freakyy> ok danke
[15:16] <Hootch> martin05112015: :D
[15:16] <martin05112015> was denn ??
[15:16] <martin05112015> sry bin noob
[15:16] <Hootch> alles gut
[15:16] <martin05112015> aber hat sich nichts geändert
[15:17] <Hootch> das testvideo angesehen?
[15:17] <martin05112015> joar
[15:18] <martin05112015> kann doch nicht sein
[15:18] <martin05112015> ich verzweifel
[15:18] <martin05112015> ssh ??
[15:23] <martin05112015> also entweder ist das wirklich so schwer wegen dem hybrid mist oder ich bin einfach zu doof
[15:24] <martin05112015> will nicht zufälligerweise jemand mir per ssh helfen ??
[15:24] <nagetier> martin05112015, im "BIOS" kannst eine der beiden nicht deaktivieren?
[15:24] <martin05112015> ne leider nicht
[15:24] <martin05112015> habe ich auch schon geschaut
[15:25] <mrkramps> martin05112015, und PRIME hast du noch nicht versucht?
[15:31] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Du würdest ernsthaft einem Wildfremden bei Dir ssh-Zugang geben?
[15:33] <martin05112015> ja kp
[15:33] <martin05112015> kenne mich da nicht so aus
[15:33] <martin05112015> dachte der zugang wäre dann nur im linux system
[15:33] <mrkramps> martin05112015, jaja und mit administrativen rechen
[15:33] <mrkramps> *rechten
[15:33] <martin05112015> prime jhabei ch versucht da hat es mir dann irgendwie den x server zerschossen
[15:34] <martin05112015> achso gleich mit admin rechten
[15:34] <martin05112015> ne dann lieber nicht ^^
[15:34] <mrkramps> martin05112015, wie hätte man denn ohne administrave rechte irgendwas fernwarten sollen zum thema grafikkarte und treiber?
[15:35] <martin05112015> ich weiss nicht wusste nicht das dass nur mit admin rechten geht
[15:35] <martin05112015> also wäre teamviewer besser oder ??
[15:36] <martin05112015> aber bei mir kann man eh nix klauen auf der linux partition
[15:36] <mrkramps> martin05112015, und da braucht man dann keine administrativen rechte für die systemkonfiguration?
[15:36] <mrkramps> denk mal drüber nach
[15:36] <martin05112015> mache ich
[15:36] <martin05112015> aber danke für die info
[15:37] <nagetier> freakyy, ist die bekannt? - https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/AMD/fglrx/Problembehebung
[15:37] <martin05112015> aber kp wie ich sonst das mit dem tearing in den griff bekommen soll
[15:38] <Hootch> martin05112015: weiss man nun die genaue grafikkarte?
[15:38] <martin05112015> es steht nur da nvidia 540m sry
[15:39] <martin05112015> von welchem hersteller weiss ich nicht
[15:39] <martin05112015> und als noob kenne ich leider keinen befehl für linux
[15:39] <martin05112015> zum auslesen
[15:39] <mrkramps> martin05112015, lspci -nnk | grep "VGA\|'Kern'\|3D\|Display" -A2
[15:39] <martin05112015> ja sowas dachte ich mir schon ^^
[15:40] <nagetier> :)
[15:40] <mrkramps> die ausgabe dieses befehls bitte in einen pastebin
[15:40] <martin05112015> check
[15:40] <martin05112015> http://pastebin.com/z3NcqpBZ
[15:42] <Hootch> was sagt xrandr
[15:43] <martin05112015> http://pastebin.com/dG4ihZDw
[15:45] <Hootch> probier mal -> nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="LVDS1: nvidia-auto-select { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }"
[15:45] <martin05112015> habe ich
[15:45] <martin05112015> muss ich mich abmelden
[15:46] <Hootch> eigentlich nicht, sollte on-the-fly
[15:46] <Hootch> gehen
[15:46] <martin05112015> tearing test immer noch schlecht
[15:46] <martin05112015> kann das sein das meine karte defekt ist oder so ??
[15:47] <martin05112015> habe sogar über compiz schon die aktualisierungsrate auf 60 gestellt
[15:51] <martin05112015> ich bin am verzweifeln
[15:52] <Hootch> du hattest 15.10?kde, gnome?
[15:52] <martin05112015> ne
[15:52] <martin05112015> 14.04.3
[15:53] <martin05112015> und gnome 2
[15:53] <martin05112015> sollte ich vllt auf eine ältere version oder neuere zugreifen ??
[15:54] <martin05112015> also von ubuntu ??
[15:54] <nagetier> martin05112015, eine 15.10 live schon versucht?
[15:54] <nagetier> wenn dann neuer
[15:54] <martin05112015> NE
[15:54] <martin05112015> soll ich ein upgrade machen ??
[15:54] <nagetier> mach das doch mal, von der kannst auch recht gut zur nächsten LTS springen
[15:54] <nagetier> martin05112015, ich würde erst einmal die live versuchen
[15:54] <martin05112015> ok
[15:55] <martin05112015> von 15.10 ??
[15:55] <nagetier> und dann würde ich, wenn möglich, frisch aufsetzen, nicht upgraden
[15:55] <nagetier> martin05112015, jo
[15:55] <martin05112015> ok
[15:55] <martin05112015> kann ich mal versuchen
[15:55] <Hootch> naja ..
[15:55] <martin05112015> was denn ??
[15:56] <Hootch> das problem ist bedingt an grafiktreiber, kernelmodule etc.
[15:56] <nagetier> Hootch, ja, ist ein umschiffen..
[15:56] <Hootch> kann helfen muss aber nicht
[15:56] <Hootch> das ist linux ist ganz frisch, oder?
[15:56] <Hootch> das linux ist ..
[15:56] <nagetier> aber warum lange quälen, versuchen sollte man es, IMO .. und 16.04 ist auch nicht weit entfernt
[15:57] <martin05112015> ja aber ich meine mein laptop ist schon ü 3 jahre alt
[15:57] <martin05112015> vllt muss ich eine ältere version nehmen
[15:57] <Hootch> martin05112015: wenn du ein frisches linux hast und bislang nichts drauf - dann ja.
[15:58] <martin05112015> ja ist nichts besonderes drauf wie gesagt bin am anfang und taste mich langsam rein in linux
[15:59] <Hootch> wie gesagt, dies hängt stark von treibern und kernel modulen ab. du kannst es versuchen. Mit tearing hatte ich auch probs und eine richtige lösung für alle gibt es wohl nicht.
[15:59] <martin05112015> mhh oder vllt auf linux mint gehen ??
[16:00] <mrkramps> nein
[16:00] <martin05112015> oder eine distro die auf etwas ältere geräte aus ist
[16:00] <martin05112015> ??
[16:00] <mrkramps> ändert am eigentlich problem de facto nichts
[16:00] <martin05112015> ach so
[16:00] <mrkramps> martin05112015, welche der beiden grafikkarten _brauchst_ du denn?
[16:00] <martin05112015> die nvidia
[16:00] <nagetier> martin05112015, Mint hat kaum Support
[16:00] <martin05112015> hätte ich gerne
[16:01] <martin05112015> aber wenn es nicht anders geht erstmal nehme ich auch die intel
[16:01] <mrkramps> martin05112015, da PRIME eigentlich bei der kobination aus freiem intel + nouveau treiber out-of-the-box laufen sollte
[16:02] <martin05112015> ja aber irgendwie kriege ich das nicht hin mit prime
[16:02] <mrkramps> könntest du ja testweise erstmal mit der intel arbeiten
[16:02] <jokrebel> martin05112015: Ich bin ziemlich sicher nur mit wesentlich älterer Hardware unterwegs.
[16:02] <martin05112015> ja aber da habe ich auch das tearing
[16:02] <mrkramps> martin05112015, da gibt es nichts hinzukriegen bei PRIME
[16:03] <martin05112015> also ich habe die befehle von wiki genommen und das hat mir die x server zerschossen
[16:03] <martin05112015> irgendwas mit initframes kam dann
[16:03] <mrkramps> martin05112015, welche befehle?
[16:03] <martin05112015> mom
[16:05] <martin05112015> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hybrid-Grafikkarten/Prime?redirect=no
[16:05] <martin05112015> von der seite
[16:05] <martin05112015> bei installation
[16:06] <mrkramps> martin05112015, da stehen nur befehle für Kubuntu 12.04.3
[16:06] <martin05112015> kann ich die nicht für ubuntu nehmen ??
[16:06] <martin05112015> ohhh weia
[16:07] <mrkramps> *seufz*
[16:07] <martin05112015> ja sry
[16:07] <martin05112015> werde mich bessern
[16:07] <martin05112015> versprochen
[16:07] <martin05112015> hehe
[16:08] <mrkramps> wenn dort derivate explizit erwähnt werden, dann sind diese abschnitte auch nur explizit für diese derivate
[16:08] <martin05112015> ok
[16:08] <martin05112015> merke ich mir
[16:09] <mrkramps> für dich wäre nur der kurze abschnitt direkt unter „Installation“ wichtig
[16:09] <martin05112015> oki
[16:12] <martin05112015> geht auch nicht
[16:12] <mrkramps> WAS geht auch nicht?
[16:14] <martin05112015> also habe prime-select query nvidia
[16:14] <martin05112015> und sudo prime-select nvidia
[16:14] <mrkramps> martin05112015, den befehl sehe ich da nirgends
[16:15] <martin05112015> eingegeben da kam dann nvidia profile is in use
[16:15] <Hootch> martin05112015: was sagt denn -> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[16:15] <martin05112015> bei umschalten zwischen grafikchips
[16:16] <mrkramps> martin05112015, `prime-select-query nvidia` ist nicht richtig
[16:16] <martin05112015> http://pastebin.com/szd0iaG0
[16:19] <Hootch> mrkramps: kennst du das autoinstall bei den ubuntu-drivers?
[16:20] <mrkramps> Hootch, nein
[16:20] <Hootch> mrkramps: wäre das eine option, um die richtigen treiber zu bekommen?
[16:21] <mrkramps> Hootch, hatte ich nicht gerade gesagt, dass ich das nicht kenne?
[16:22] <Hootch> mrkramps: ja, stimmt schon .
[16:23] <Hootch> martin05112015: -> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall und später den command befehl mit den force settings. das würde ich mal probieren
[16:24] <Hootch> du hast ja ein 14.04.3 LTS
[16:25] <martin05112015> oki ich probiere es mal
[16:28] <martin05112015> wo ist der befehl mit force settings
[16:29] <Hootch> martin05112015: speichern, treiber install, reboot, cmd ausführen -> nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="LVDS1: nvidia-auto-select { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }" -> testvideo ansehen
[16:30] <martin05112015> oki
[16:30] <Hootch> achso .. beten und hoffen
[16:30] <martin05112015> danke
[16:33] <martin05112015> geeeht niiiiiicht
[16:33] <martin05112015> heul
[16:33] <martin05112015> oder ich bin zu doof
[16:37] <mrkramps> ich könnte den wiki-artikel nochmal verlinken, aber das mir jetzt zu doof
[16:38] <martin05112015> ok
[16:38] <martin05112015> trotzdem danke für die hilfe
[16:39] <mrkramps> Hootch, der vollständigkeit halber wie erklärt im wiki-artikel, dein befehl funktioniert, aber nicht mit nvidia-prime
[16:40] <Hootch> bei prime würde mir noch die max performance einstellung einfallen und vertical sync auf 60hz
[16:40] <Hootch> hatte ich auch nochmal gelesen
[16:41] <Hootch> alles andere würde ich auch nochmal mit dem artikel abarbeiten
[16:42] <martin05112015> ich beiße mich da mal durch
[16:42] <martin05112015> bin vllt morgen abend wieder on
[16:42] <martin05112015> danke noch mal für die hilfe und einen schönen abend noch
[17:36] <pixelbyte> guten abend
[17:37] <pixelbyte> ich habe ein problem mit meinem ram, der verbraucht mehr als was ubuntu sonst so veraucht
[17:37] <pixelbyte> ich habe keine ramdisk amlaufen
[17:38] <pixelbyte> hat jmd eine idee habe das hier schon mal besprochen aber sind auf keine lösung gekommen hat jmd noch eine idd?
[17:38] <pixelbyte> *idee
[17:44] <frostschutz> pixelbyte, wie meinen?
[17:46] <nagetier> pixelbyte, sende 'cat /etc/lsb-release', dmesg, free und df in einem pastebin
[17:47] <nagetier> frostschutz, wir waren da jetzt schon länger dran, ich habe keine Ahnung wo man anfassen könnte.. hoffe auf andere die helfen
[17:51] <pixelbyte> http://pastebin.com/qwcfBEc9
[17:54] <pixelbyte> free leuft meine kvm mit 4G die bitte abziehen
[17:58] <frostschutz> pixelbyte, irgendwelche verbraucher in top zu sehen wenn du nach speicherverbrauch sortierst? top -o %MEM oder was immer
[18:00] <pixelbyte> shttp://paste.ubuntu.com/13450555/
[18:00] <pixelbyte> es sieht alles normal aus für ubuntu
[18:02] <pixelbyte> nirgens steht ihrgen was von mehr als 1gb
[18:11] <pixelbyte> hast du was gefunden frostschutz?
[18:11] <jokrebel> pixelbyte: Was um alles in der Welt hast Du da alles für Tabs in Cromium offen?
[18:11] <pixelbyte> 3 taps
[18:11] <pixelbyte> ohne flash
[18:12] <pixelbyte> das hat wir auch schon
[18:13] <jokrebel> sieht nach mehr aus. Irgend welche Hintergrundinstanzem vielleicht? Weiter Fenster bit auch einigen TABs?
[18:13] <nagetier> jokrebel, auch in der rescue-konsole ist der RAM Verbrauch auffällig
[18:13] <pixelbyte> genau nagetier hat ich vergessen
[18:13] <jokrebel> hmm
[18:16] <pixelbyte> ich glaub, ich werde alles neuinstallation
[18:18] <frostschutz> pixelbyte, zumindest laut top war >50% mem frei ...
[18:21] <pixelbyte> frostschutz aber laut nagetier musste ich mehr frei haben da ubuntu nach start nur ca1 gb verbraucht
[18:21] <pixelbyte> ohne ihrgen welche programme
[18:22] <nagetier> frostschutz, da waren die Tage direkt nach dem Start und ohne zusätzliche Anwendungen geöffnet zu haben 6GB belegt
[18:23] <nagetier> und der Cache war nahezu leer
[18:26] <pixelbyte> ich kann gerne das wiederhollen
[18:26] * jokrebel ist hier unter Unity auf nem 14.04er Ubuntu grad mal bei 1,6 GB. Terminal für das IRC offen - Thunderbird mit Kalender - und Chromium mit 2 TABs
[18:27] <k1l_> pixelbyte: also willst du das tmpfs abstellen?
[18:28] <pixelbyte> wenn das hilft
[18:28] <pixelbyte> ich brauch mehr für die vm
[18:28] <schnuppi> quassel sieht doch ziemlich fett aus, oder?
[18:28] <schnuppi> 4938720
[18:29] <k1l_> "systemctl mask tmp.mount" das sollte das komplett abstellen
[18:32] <pixelbyte> dann wahrscheinlich rebooten
[18:32] <jokrebel> schnuppi: Du willst jetzt aber nicht hier auch noch das trollen anfangen? Das wäre Deinem "Ban-Problem" sicher nicht zuträglich.
[18:32] <schnuppi> jokrebel: Nein, ich wollte nur helfen. -.-
[18:32] <pixelbyte> kurz rebboot
[18:34] <pixelbyte> nö hats nix gebracht
[18:35] <pixelbyte> http://pastebin.com/08Q1Rb19
[18:35] <pixelbyte> neues free
[18:37] <k1l_> lies dich hier mal ein: https://www.linuxonlinehelp.de/tag/tmpfs/
[18:38] <jokrebel> öhm? Du hast nicht mal ein GB Speicher da verbaut?
[18:39] <pixelbyte> what jokrebel
[18:50] <pixelbyte> k1l_ aber laut df hat die nicht mal ein %
[18:50] <nagetier> pixelbyte, du hast auch kein /tmp als tmpfs
[18:57] <nagetier> pixelbyte, installiere neu, wir kommen hier nicht weiter. lass das system unverändert und schau dir dann nochmal free an .. setzte dich erst dann mit iommu auseinander und passe dazu an
[18:57] <nagetier> wäre mein vorschlag
[18:58] <nagetier> und überlege dir evtl nicht doch auf Xfce zu gehen, wenn dir RAM so wichtig ist, werden die die +1GB entgegenkommen
[18:58] <nagetier> dir*
[18:59] <nagetier> plus 1GB ist etwas übertrieben
[19:02] <pixelbyte> ok ist das beste
[19:03] <pixelbyte> wie heist eigenlich das von debian 8
[19:03] <nagetier> was denn?
[19:04] <nagetier> pixelbyte, suche dir eine Distribution wo du einen Support in deiner bevorzugten Sprache findest..
[19:04] <pixelbyte> ich meinte das das destop entv
[19:05] <nagetier> pixelbyte, genau so, mal von Unity abgesehen, IMHO
[19:05] <pixelbyte> ok dann bist später
[19:05] <nagetier> Unity ist, glaube ich, unter Debian nicht vorhanden
[19:06] <nagetier> ansonsten sind die alle identisch
[19:06] <pixelbyte> wie kann ich auf eine inter ne festplatten zugreifen wo ver windows trauf das geht nicht igrgen wie
[19:07] <Rochvellon> und nun noch einmal in Deutsch bitte
[19:28] <freakyy> gibt es noch jemand hier der probleme aht den ati treiber richtig zum laufen zu kriegen (fglrx und fglrx-update) .. ich probier schon seit mehreren stunden kreig aber nix auf die reihe ... also keinen treiber installiert weder den von der amd website, noch einen vom repo.
[19:30] <nagetier> freakyy, ältere hattest jetzt versucht und das Problem ist immer noch vorhanden?
[19:48] <olymbus> wenn ich nach dem ich den invidia treiber kein xserver mehr habe also das kde startet nicht
[19:48] <olymbus> was mus ich jetzt machen
[19:49] <freakyy> nagetier ich hatte nur 2 versionen zur auswahl ... als fglrx
[19:49] <bekks> olymbus: In die Logs gucken, warum das so ist.
[19:49] <olymbus> wo finde ich die
[19:50] <bekks> Unter /var/log/
[19:50] <jokrebel> /var/log
[19:50] <olymbus> danke
[19:50] <MrFastDie> Wie hast du denn die nvidia treiber installiert? Die machen bei mir auch gerne mal Probleme
[19:51] <olymbus> ich habe einsgfxi skript
[19:51] <bekks> Was ist das?
[19:51] <olymbus> und welche dateimuss ich da nehmen
[19:51] <bekks> Xorg.0.log klingt sehr prlausibel.
[19:51] <jokrebel> wieso _die_Treiber. Benutzen tut man normal nur einen.
[19:51] <nagetier> freakyy, hm.. das kann schon sein. Bitte sorge aus eigenem Interesse dafür den händisch Installierten wieder gescheit vom System zu entfernen, Hinweise dazu findest im Wiki. Auch steht dort wie man genau vorzugehen hat, den zu installieren.. es ist nicht mir dem herunterladen und ausführen getan, wie ich heute selber lesen konnte.
[19:51] <bekks> Was ist "einsgfxi skript"?
[19:52] <nagetier> mit*
[19:52] <nagetier> H A
[19:52] <freakyy> nagetier: ich hab apt-get remove --purge fglrx-* gemacht
[19:52] <olymbus> smxi.org
[19:53] <bekks> olymbus: Das ist eine URL, beantwortet aber eine Frage nicht.
[19:53] <jokrebel> was bei einer Installtion mittels .sh-Script vermutlich nichts bewirkt.
[19:53] <olymbus> moment
[19:53] <olymbus> http://smxi.org/docs/sgfxi-manual.htm
[19:54] <freakyy> nagetier: der händisch installierte hat nie installiert weil immer die .debs nicht gefunden wurden
[19:54] <olymbus> so habe ich versucht den treiber zu installen
[19:54] <bekks> olymbus: Sag uns in einem Satz was das ist. Ich lese mir keine 3rd Party Handbücher durch.
[19:54] <freakyy> aus irgend nem grund hat der mir zwar keine fehlermeldung gegeben, aber die files die er eigentlich in ./ kopieren wollte warn nie da obwohl er 10 mins was gemacht hat
[19:54] <freakyy> die version.h hab ich an die richtige stelle kopiert
[19:54] <nagetier> freakyy, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Grafikkarten/AMD/fglrx/Manuelle_Treiberinstallation das befolgt?
[19:55] <olymbus> es ist ein skript wo den nvidia treiber installiert
[19:55] <nagetier> hoffe das ist noch gültig :/
[19:55] <bekks> olymbus: Gut. Schmeiss es weg und vergiss es.
[19:55] <freakyy> nein das hier: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[19:55] <freakyy> @nagetier
[19:55] <bekks> BEseitige alle Spuren der Installationen durch dieses Skript, alte Treiber, etc. - und dann können wir anfangen, das hinzubekommen.
[19:55] <bekks> Vorher brauchen wir da nicht zu gucken.
[19:56] <olymbus> auch wenn ich einen nvidia aus der packetverwaltung installe ist nach dem neu start schwarz
[19:56] <olymbus> also ich habnur noch das terminal und kein xserver mehr
[19:56] <bekks> Ja, weil da irgendwas mit irgendeinem Müll dieses Skripts kollidiert. BEseitige das alles, dann können wir auch einen Nvidia-Treiber so installieren, wie das unter Ubuntu angedacht ist.
[19:57] <olymbus> ok
[19:57] <freakyy> bekks: ok moment ich gugg mal
[19:57] <olymbus> werd ich machen
[19:57] <bekks> freakyy: Was wie?
[19:58] <freakyy> bekks: achso du meintest garnicht mich ;D
[19:58] <bekks> freakyy: Jenau :)
[19:59] <olymbus> bekks geht halt einen moment gell
[20:00] <bekks> olymbus: Was geht einen Moment?
[20:00] <nagetier> freakyy, ich kann dir da auch nur sehr wenig helfen, setze hier keine GPU vom AMD ein
[20:00] <nagetier> n
[20:00] <jokrebel> freakyy: Und was/wer genau sagt Dir, dass in den 10 Minuten Dein System nicht nachhaltig verbogen wurde?
[20:01] <olymbus> bis ich wieder soweit bin
[20:01] <bekks> olymbus: Ja, natürlich. Aus genau so einem Grund sollte man solche Müllskripte ja auch nicht einsetzen ;)
[20:02] <olymbus> ich bin noch am lernen
[20:03] <olymbus> und mache grosse fehler oder ich versuche einfach bis es geht
[20:03] <olymbus> und wenn ich das suystem wieder neu auf setzen muss
[20:03] <olymbus> ich lerne immer wieder
[20:04] <jokrebel> try&error mag bei Windows zielführend sein. Bei Linux/Ubuntu ist eher Wiki-Lesen und verstehen angesagt,
[20:05] <nagetier> olymbus, das macht man anfänglich eh öfter, um wieder einen stabilen Ausgangspunkt zu haben
[20:06] <nagetier> olymbus, Dinge, die sich nicht auf die Hardware auswirken, kann man auch sehr gut in einer VM vorab testen
[20:07] <jokrebel> oder mit einem Live-Medium
[20:07] <nagetier> olymbus, eine vollständige Systemsicherung hilft auch dabei
[20:07] <freakyy> jokrebel: wieso denkst du mein system is kaputt?
[20:07] <jokrebel> freakyy: Ich denke nicht - aber ich bin mir auch nicht wirklich sicher, dass es _nicht_ so ist.
[20:08] <olymbus> ok
[20:08] <olymbus> danke für eure tips
[20:08] <jokrebel> freakyy: Oder weist Du _genau_ was dieses Script in der langen Zeit alles getan hat?
[20:09] <olymbus> nein
[20:09] <olymbus> darum installe ich das kubuntu neu
[20:11] <olymbus> ichhabe auch den nvidia treiber genommen der mir als empfolen angegeben wueder nur nach dem neu start ging der xserver nicht mehr
[20:11] <bekks> Auch dann heisst es Logs lesen.
[20:11] <olymbus> ich kann zu wenig das ich das verstehe
[20:12] <bekks> Aber du kannst fragen, so wie du es hier auch getan hast.
[20:12] <olymbus> und genau dann bin ich auf so menschen wie hier drin sind angewiesen
[20:17] <freakyy> jokrebel: ne ... aber ich denke nix das das system kaputt macht ;)
[20:17] <freakyy> ne andere frage, hat jemand ne ahnung wie ich am besten heutzutage ein iceon für mein minecraft in unity (den launcher) reinkrieg?
[20:18] <jokrebel> Du meinst Icon?
[20:18] <freakyy> jokrebel: ja icon
[20:20] <jokrebel> freakyy: Einen Starter anlegen und dann vom Desktop in die Seitenleiste rüberziehn https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.desktop-dateien
[20:24] <olymbus> bekks bin bereit das kubuntu 15.10 ist drauf
[20:24] <bekks> olymbus: Welche nvidia Karte hast du genau?
[20:25] <olymbus> habe die geforce gtx 950
[20:26] <olymbus> und jetzt ist vom system her der nouveau treiber aktiv
[20:26] <olymbus> und habe noch zur aus wal
[20:26] <olymbus> nvidia 352,63
[20:28] <olymbus> aber sobald ich den treiber ändere habe ich nach dem neu start dein kde mehr
[20:28] <bekks> Dann schau danach in die Logs.
[20:28] <olymbus> dann sol ich das jetzt machen
[20:29] <olymbus> installe den nvidia mal
[20:33] <olymbus> mach jetzt mal den neu start
[20:40] <olymbus> jetzt ist noch der kubuntu schriftzug gekommen
[20:40] <olymbus> das einzige was ich jetzt machen kann ist
[20:40] <freakyy> jokrebel: danke
[20:40] <olymbus> alt ctrl und f1
[20:41] <olymbus> damit ich wenigstens das terminal habe
[20:41] <olymbus> oder auch nicht
[20:41] <bekks> HAst du nun ein Terminal oder nicht?
[20:42] <olymbus> bekks jetzt geht garnichts mehr
[20:42] <bekks> Dann musst du neustarten und "nomodeset" in deine Kernel Command Line einfügen.
[20:42] <bekks> Ich suche Dir gerade einen Link dazu raus.
[20:43] <olymbus> ich schau mal ob das geht
[20:44] <bekks> olymbus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[20:45] <olymbus> mal schauen ob ich das ohne english kann
[20:53] <olymbus> wie kann ich das ändern wen ich kein terminal habe
[20:53] <olymbus> oder gibt es eine kombination das ich das terminal habe
[20:55] <bekks> Ja, trag nomodeset in die KErnel Command Line ein, drück dann nach dem Booten ctrl alt f1
[20:55] <bekks> Dann hast du ein Terminal.
[20:56] <olymbus> ok mal schauen ob das noch geht
[20:56] <nagetier> olymbus, im GRUB vor dem Start
[20:56] <bekks> olymbus: Das geht, und ist im o.g. Artikel beschrieben.
[20:57] <freakyy> kann ich vonnem vorhandenen eintrag in unity das icon ändern?
[20:57] <freakyy> ohne dass ich vorher nen desktop file angelegt habe?
[20:58] <olymbus> egal wann ich die kombination drücke es kommt nur schnell auf geleuchtet und dann ist wieder schwarz
[20:58] <bekks> olymbus: Natürlich, weil du VORHER den nomodeset Parameter setzen musst.
[20:59] <olymbus> ich starte den pc und danach habe ich kein terminal oder wie komme ich in den grub rein
[21:00] <bekks> Durch drücken von Shift nach dem BIOS POST.
[21:01] <olymbus> jetzt bin ich in grub
[21:02] <olymbus> was mache ich da jetzt
[21:02] <nagetier> kernelzeile auswählen, editieren, am ende nomodeset anhängen
[21:02] <bekks> und quiet und splash rausnehmen
[21:07] <olymbus> ich bin jetzt bei
[21:07] <olymbus> setparams ubuntu
[21:09] <freakyy> mit welchem programm kann ich in linux desktop aufnahem machen?
[21:09] <bekks> freakyy: Mit jedem Texteditor.
[21:10] <olymbus> bim grub und hab echt keine anung
[21:10] <bekks> olymbus: Es steht in dem Artikel was zu tun ist, UND wir haben es Dir vorhin auch nochmal gesagt.
[21:11] <freakyy> bekks: nein ich meinte jetzt desktop aufnahmen also videos
[21:11] <olymbus> ja dasweiss ich erstens kann ich fast kein english und noch viel weniger verstehe ich was vom grub
[21:12] <olymbus> aber ok ich schaue und lesse bis ich es verstanden habe
[21:12] <bekks> freakyy: Deine Frage ergibt keinen Sinn. Was genau möchtest du tun?
[21:12] <bekks> olymbus: Auch wenn du kein Englisch kannst haben wir Dir ganz genau gesagt was zu tun ist.
[21:12] <freakyy> videos von meinem bildschirm machen
[21:12] <bekks> freakyy: Dann kannst Du Dir mal recordmydesktop angucken.
[21:13] <freakyy> ok danke :D
[21:15] <freakyy> und wie finde ich raus wieviel speicher meine graka hat?
[21:16] <freakyy> ich google mal will ned zu viel fragen
[21:16] <bekks> Guck auf die Rechnung :)
[21:27] <nagetier> Gerade mal mit lshw und hwinfo geschaut.. die geben ja tatsächlich nichts zum vRAM aus.. schade eigentlich
[21:39] <olymbus> jetzt startet das system mit derm kde
[21:43] <bekks> Schön, was hast du getan? :)
[21:44] <olymbus> habe das gmacht was du geschrieben hast habe bei der zeile quit und splash raus genommen
[21:44] <olymbus> und der andere eintrag weiss ich nicht mehr der auch noch drin stand
[21:44] <bekks> Ich habe noch viel mehr geschrieben...
[21:44] <olymbus> wie kann ich nach schauen welcher treiber aktiv ist
[21:44] <bekks> lspci -k
[21:45] <olymbus> danke
[21:46] <olymbus> es gibt doch noch den befehl mesag oder wie der heisst
[21:47] <bekks> "dmesg".
[21:51] <olymbus> http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/bildschirmfoto1w7dbzyvl98.png
[21:52] <olymbus> da siehst du wo ich das nomodeset habe
[21:53] <bekks> Ja.
[21:54] <olymbus> muss ich das wieder ändern oder kann ich das so sein lassen
[21:54] <bekks> Das kannst du so lassen, dein KDE funktioniert doch jetzt.
[21:54] <nagetier> olymbus, jetzt fest in /etc/default/grub eintragen und grub-update ausführen, beides mit sudo
[21:55] <olymbus> istdas noch nicht fest eingetragen
[21:55] <nagetier> wenn du vorgegangen bist wie vorgeschlagen nicht, das wäre bei Neustart wieder weg
[21:56] <olymbus> aha ok
[22:01] <olymbus> bei GRUB_CMLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset" eintragen
[22:01] <olymbus> habe ich das richtig verstanden
[22:02] <nagetier> olymbus, wie sieht die denn derzeit aus?
[22:03] <olymbus> da steht jetzt noch quiet splash
[22:03] <nagetier> olymbus, das kannst jetzt stehen lassen, und nomodeset anfügen, dann passt das
[22:04] <olymbus> GRUB_CMLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiete splash nomodeset"
[22:05] <nagetier> mach das
[22:05] <olymbus> ok
[22:10] <olymbus> auch der neu start ging wieder
[22:11] <nagetier> erschreckend
[22:11] <olymbus> für mich schon
[22:11] <nagetier> :) ne, ist doch schön
[22:11] <olymbus> ich über jetzt schon das ganze wochenende
[22:12] <olymbus> es geht
[22:13] <olymbus> ich danke euch beiden rechtherzlich
[22:13] <olymbus> finde das immer wieder super
[22:13] <nagetier> jetzt genieße dein System, hf
[22:16] <olymbus> dane werd ich
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.078897
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-bugs
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[13:44] <Inopia> global media keys don't work with programs like VLC or gnome-mplayer
[13:44] <Inopia> even though they support dbus with org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.Player
[13:44] <Inopia> ubuntu just doesn't use that interface when you press media keys
[13:44] <Inopia> https://github.com/inopia/gnome-media-mpris/blob/master/gnome-media-mpris.py
[13:45] <Inopia> This script listens to gnome media keys and sends them to org.mpris.MediaPlayer2.Player
[13:45] <Inopia> how do I file a bug report to make this work with ubuntu by default ?
[13:47] <Inopia> The sound menu does use this interface so it is pretty weird that media keys don't
[21:44] <plasmasolutions> Hi guys... I think I found a serious issue in the libllvm3.4 packages. Even though we default to gcc5.2 now, this package is still build with 4.9 - we got plenty of linker issues on ubuntu with Blender now - Is a llvm package maintainer or professional llvm bug sqasher around? ;)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.086316
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-nz
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[17:58] <olly_> morning
[18:12] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:54] <chilts> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.087048
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-tn
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[15:48] <volkomvmqx> Hello
[16:32] <Na3iL> o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.088116
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"volkomvmqx"
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-gnome
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[01:00] <LinDol> hi all
[08:40] <lindol> 냥냥
[08:41] <lindol> opps
[08:41] <lindol> Hi all :)
[14:22] <xela2244> hi, when i press power button screen should blank, but it does not do anything. I'm using ubuntu GNOME 15.10
[22:21] <Na3iL> o/
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.091309
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"Na3iL",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-gnome"
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-x
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[14:45] <mamarley> ricotz: Regarding the email from the guy about EGL in 355 and 358, I almost have that fixed and will have packages ready later today. :)
[20:28] <mamarley> ricotz: The EGL-fixed 355 and 358 builds are up now. It also looks like 340, 346, and 352 should have been setting the EGL alternative to /usr/lib/nvidia-xyz, since hardware-accelerated EGL/GLES doesn't work on those either.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.092434
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-server
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[09:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:42] <OnTheRocks> hello
[10:42] <OnTheRocks> how can i monitor cpu temp in nagios in a server via snmp?
[12:43] <billxtn> i need help i am trying to conneect to an open wifi with mac filter it worked just fine until yesterday it show me my ip in ifconfig but im not connected in iwconfig
[12:45] <lordievader> Static ip? (Besides rather use iproute2 instead of ifconfig)
[12:46] <billxtn> iproute2?
[12:47] <lordievader> Yes, or the binary name 'ip'.
[12:47] <lordievader> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/ip.8.html
[13:22] <billxtn> thanks it worked
[13:24] <billxtn> now i'm trying to to add my open wifi essid to the /etc/network/interfaces file
[13:24] <billxtn> can i use wpa-ssid for an open wifi?
[13:27] <lordievader> What do you mean? WPA is an encryption method. Not really sure what you mean with wpa-ssid...
[13:27] <billxtn> or i use wireless-essid
[13:31] <lordievader> Ah, now I see what you mean.
[13:33] <lordievader> Do you control the wifi network by the way? If so, why ain't it encrypted?
[13:35] <lordievader> I suppose just defining wpa-ssid should work.
[13:35] <billxtn> well i controle it
[13:36] <billxtn> there but am using mac filter because of things didn't go well in the biginning
[13:37] <billxtn> well if i put wpa-ssid with open wifi it ork?
[13:37] <lordievader> I suppose, yes.
[13:38] <lordievader> Anyhow you do realize that anyone with a wifi antenna can see your traffic right?
[13:38] <lordievader> A mac filter is also trivial to subvert.
[13:40] <billxtn> ow thanks for the information
[13:40] <billxtn> i have to change it
[13:40] <lordievader> Yes, that is strongly advisable ;)
[13:40] <lordievader> Go with wpa2.
[13:42] <billxtn> ok thanks again
[19:12] <window95> hey i have a fresh ubuntu server here and am looking for the inetd.conf doesn't seem to be anywhere
[19:16] <lordievader> Is inetd installed?
[19:17] <window95> i don' tbelieve so it seems (from what i'm reading) theres something called xinetd that is more common
[19:18] <window95> wasn't sure if i was able to use inetd instead ftr huge noob if it isn't obvious so please forgive
[20:09] <jrwren> what are you trying to do?
[20:14] <window95> trying to run bitlbee
[20:14] <window95> and i need to edit this inetd file or xinetd or something
[20:14] <bekks> window95: You should use nvidia-prime instead, since bumblebee is deprecated.
[20:15] <window95> bitlbee is not the same as bumblebee bekks
[20:15] <bekks> GEez, nevermind, totally misread it :D
[20:15] <window95> bitlbee is a thing that lets you integrate other chats/IM services into your iRC client (so I can have like a twitter stream channel)
[20:15] <window95> lol nm
[20:15] <window95> np
[20:33] <lordievader> Bitlbee doesn't need inetd does it?
[20:35] <lordievader> Ah, that is one of the modes. Why not use the ForkDaemon mode? That is what I use.
[20:57] <window95> lordievader yeah i was actually gonna ask about that
[20:57] <window95> i was on the bitlbee channel they are helping me a bit there. Seems for my purposes ForkDaemon is best. What do you use it for if you don't mind me asking? Im mainly gonna use it for Twitter i think
[21:00] <lordievader> Facebook and gtalk. Zabbix pings me through gtalk ;)
[21:06] <window95> nice
[21:06] <window95> ugh
[21:06] <window95> If you read this, you most likely accidentally started BitlBee in inetd mode on the command line. You probably want to run it in (Fork)Daemon mode. See doc/README for more information.
[21:06] <window95> how to i stop it... lol i can't do anything else now it seems
[21:27] <lordievader> kill <pid>?
[21:27] <window95> lordievader thnx stopped a while ago on its own accord lol
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.097187
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"OnTheRocks",
"bekks",
"billxtn",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-server"
}
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-ci-eng
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[00:31] <robru> uh
[00:32] <robru> well that was odd
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.104391
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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"robru"
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-si
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[00:08] <pitastrudl> lol
[00:08] <pitastrudl> tak ga piha da je limono odpihnil
[00:08] <pitastrudl> sm biu zuni ja, sm hodu po trgovinah po nakupih
[00:08] <pitastrudl> sm mal marelo polomil haha
[00:09] <pitastrudl> večino cajta držal marelo postrani kot pokonci
[00:12] <Sky[x]> jp
[00:13] <Sky[x]> fuck na github mam username z velikimi crkami in composer pa vse v male spremeni in zdj mi ne dela composer lol :>
[00:28] <Sky[x]> kdo se tukaj?
[00:30] <matjaz> o/
[00:30] <speed-> na pol
[00:33] <idioterna> jah
[00:33] <idioterna> jsm tle
[00:33] <idioterna> ampak delam
[08:28] <yang> .vreme lj
[09:24] <msev-> kaj rabm da tole zalaufam -> https://github.com/mrgilving/arduinoGPSNavigator/blob/master/images/bmp2hex.py
[09:24] <Pepelka> arduinoGPSNavigator/bmp2hex.py at master · mrgilving/arduinoGPSNavigator · GitHub
[09:24] <Pepelka> »arduinoGPSNavigator - Simple handheld navigator based on Arduino, an UART GPS module and Nokia 5110 display«
[10:33] <CrazyLemon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUc_T83A11c
[10:33] <Pepelka> Lighting Strike on a car in Australia - YouTube
[10:33] <Pepelka> »A lightning strike on a car«
[11:16] <pitastrudl> old
[11:33] <CrazyLemon> http://www.bicikel.com/novice/13898/raziskava_s_celado_tvegate_vec.html
[11:33] <Pepelka> Raziskava: S čelado tvegate več | Novice | Bicikel.com
[11:33] <Pepelka> »Opravili so zanimivo raziskavo o nošenju čelade med kolesarjenjem. Rezultat? Če nosite čelado, ste pripravljeni več tvegati.«
[11:35] <pitastrudl> lmao
[12:07] <CrazyLemon> sonce!
[14:44] <yang> .vreme lj
[14:44] <jabuk> ARSO: Ljubljana (299m): 3.7°C @22.11.2015 14:30 UTC.
[14:44] <jabuk> Vlažnost: 81% severnik 1.7 m/s (6.1 km/h)
[14:44] <jabuk> Sončni vzhod: 06:12:58, Kulminacija: 10:49:25, Sončni zahod: 15:25:53
[14:44] <jabuk> Dan je dolg: 9ur 12min 55s, Luna je v ščipu
[15:16] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie
[15:16] <zdobbie> ?
[15:17] <CrazyLemon> http://slo-android.si/forum/viewtopic.php?p=326731#p326731
[15:17] <Pepelka> Nexus 6P (Huawei) - Forum - Slo-Android.si
[15:17] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ^
[15:17] <Pepelka> »Tud meni ni bilo treba potem nič dati, samo sem plačal preko banke. Ne vem ta exspansis ma zgleda kar mal zmede Sem videl, da imajo na amazon. it...«
[15:18] <CrazyLemon> na amazon.it ga je dobil v dveh dneh
[15:21] <zdobbie> bo ze
[15:22] <CrazyLemon> ne ne bo!
[16:01] <zdobbie> you'll see
[17:36] <jabuk> M 1.3 > 2.km SZ od ŠMARIJ PRI JELŠAH @22/11/2015 18:20:57 https://maps.google.com/?q=46.24+N,+15.51+E
[17:52] <zdobbie> opa!
[18:03] <idioterna> zdobbie: CrazyLemon
[18:11] <jabuk> M 1.5 > 4.km V od JELŠAN @22/11/2015 18:56:07 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.51+N,+14.33+E
[18:21] <CrazyLemon> idioterna zdobbie
[18:22] <idioterna> jsm ze not
[18:23] <CrazyLemon> lucky bastard
[20:50] <idioterna> zdobbie: http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2015/11/referendum_zzzdr_episcenter.aspx
[20:50] <Pepelka> Na referendumu bi zmagala Aleš Primc in Metka Zevnik | Slovenija - Planet Siol.net
[20:50] <Pepelka> »Na referendumu 20. decembra bi 54 odstotkov ljudi glasovalo proti noveli zakona o zakonski zvezi, ki pravice istospolnih parov izenačuje s pravicami raznospolnih parov, kaže anketa Episcentra.«
[20:50] <idioterna> ce bos rabu ocitat yangu pa anny da sta konzervativna katolika
[20:52] <msev-> A sta ortodoksna katolika :D
[20:52] <idioterna> ocitno
[20:53] <idioterna> zakaj bi pa drugac hotla otrokom v homoseksualnih druzinah kratit pravice?
[20:58] <msev-> Ja k fajmostr tko rece :)
[20:58] <msev-> Hehe
[20:58] <msev-> Aves mi je najbl neumn da so sli na ustavn sodisce s tem
[20:59] <msev-> Pa sprozl referendum k bo nevem kok miljonov stal, zj ce bi ga saj sami placal
[20:59] <msev-> S tem gozdom k so ga nazaj dobil
[21:11] <yang> tudi ce ljudstvo izglasuje nasprotovanje sprejetemu zakonu
[21:11] <yang> ga bo ustavno sodisce se vedno zagovarjalo
[21:12] <yang> torej kaj je sploh fora tega referenduma, sej v sloveniji se prakticno noben referendum ne spostuje
[21:13] <idioterna> sej se ne sme
[21:14] <idioterna> ce bi se spostoval referendume bi mel fasizem
[21:15] <yang> sam dnar zapravljajo
[21:16] <idioterna> to je nenaravno!
[21:16] <idioterna> dnar zapravlat
[21:17] <yang> a bos sel na referedum idioterna ?
[21:17] <idioterna> valda
[21:17] <idioterna> nasprotovat tej fasisticni farski bandi
[21:17] <yang> me zanima kok jih bo volil za sprejetje zakona
[21:17] <yang> pa kok proti
[21:17] <idioterna> pejt volt za, da naus tak kmet
[21:18] <yang> ma sel bom ze zarad soseda, k je v komisiji
[21:18] <yang> drgac mi pa dol visi
[21:19] <yang> k ce ne grem volit, pol ga bom moral poslusat, pa se mi ga ne da
[21:22] <yang> so se vecje dileme na svetu za resevat kot istospolne poroke
[21:23] <idioterna> ja, ampak to ne pomen da je treba zajebavat istospolne ljudi
[21:24] <yang> sej pri tem referendumu sploh ni sporna istosolna zveza
[21:24] <yang> ampak posvajanje otrok
[21:24] <idioterna> ja in edina posledica j
[21:26] <yang> tej katoliki pa itak lazejo samim sebi, poglej koliko duhovnikov je homoseksualcev, pa nekaj naprotujejo tem vezam
[21:26] <idioterna> posledica je, da so otroci v istospolnih druzinah depriviligirani
[21:26] <idioterna> skratka, otroci so tisti k nasrkajo
[21:26] <idioterna> ne starsi
[21:26] <idioterna> poleg tega posvojitve ne morjo bit sporne
[21:26] <idioterna> neenakopravnost je sporna
[21:28] <yang> otroci bodo depriviligirani tudi ce bodo istospolne posvojitve legalne, ker bodo se vedno v manjsini napram ostlaim otrokom
[21:28] <idioterna> ha?
[21:28] <idioterna> ne stekas.
[21:28] <yang> pravno gledano bodo enakopravni, samo druzbeno pa bo se vedno nesprejemljivo
[21:28] <idioterna> otroci v homoseksualnih druzinah trenutno ne uzivajo enakega varstva po zakonodaji
[21:28] <idioterna> kot ga uzivajo v drugih druzinah
[21:29] <idioterna> ko otroka posvojis privzames obveznosti do njega
[21:29] <idioterna> ne obratno
[21:30] <yang> no saj je vseeno, ti imas otroke, ti bi se moral pravilno odlocati glede tega, meni je vseeno
[21:30] <idioterna> ja ne ni vseeno
[21:30] <idioterna> halo
[21:30] <CrazyLemon> ni cudno da si bil samomorilski v igri..ce te pa tukaj yang jezi
[21:30] <idioterna> pizda
[21:30] <idioterna> ja, ane :)
[21:31] <yang> a se je razstrelil ?
[21:31] <zdobbie> dvakrat
[21:31] <idioterna> yang: tebi je pac vseeno za to da nekaterih otrok ne morejo prit starsi obiskat v bolnisnico ko so bolni
[21:31] <yang> kako ti je pa to uspelo
[21:31] <idioterna> narobe sm ocenu AOE od RPGja
[21:32] <yang> mogoce muslimi tut igrce igrajo pa mislijo da se lahko dvakrat razstrelijo
[21:32] <idioterna> mogoce
[21:32] <idioterna> kdo bi vedu
[21:32] <CrazyLemon> allah bi
[21:33] <msev-1> Lol
[21:33] <idioterna> ne poznam ga
[21:34] <yang> I-LOV-IT-ALAH (preberi nazaj)
[21:36] <CrazyLemon> zakaj bi bral za nazaj? zakaj ti ne napišeš da js normalno preberem? :/
[21:37] <yang> vzemi ogledalce
[21:39] <zdobbie> doesn't work that way, does it
[22:02] <msev-1> Enga windowsasa probam convertat na linux kot sekundarn os
[22:03] <msev-1> Kere igrce nj mu predstavm
[22:29] <pitastrudl> csgo
[22:29] <lynxlynxlynx> neverball
[22:29] <lynxlynxlynx> yang bi najbrž predlaga xbill
[22:39] <yang> lynxlynxlynx: ?
[22:44] <lynxlynxlynx> špil
[22:44] <lynxlynxlynx> pa l sem pozabil
[22:46] <matjaz> ko sem kolega migriral na linux, je čisto noter padel v dwarf fortress
[22:50] <CrazyLemon> msev-1 insurgency!
[22:50] <CrazyLemon> teamfortress 2!
[22:53] <lynxlynxlynx> heh
[22:53] <lynxlynxlynx> sam bi od prostih predlagal še wesnoth
[22:53] <msev-1> Lol tale dwarf fortress moram pogooglst
[22:54] <lynxlynxlynx> od zaprtih pa pillars of eternity, če je za frpje
[22:54] <lynxlynxlynx> msev-1: pomisli na nethack
[22:54] <msev-1> Ubistvu ma on najrajs rts-je
[22:54] <idioterna> freeciv
[22:56] <msev-1> Not that kind
[22:56] <msev-1> Ala cc3 tiberium wars
[22:56] <msev-1> Star craft 2
[22:57] <yang> lynxlynxlynx: a se ti zdim zadosti mlad, da bi igrice igral ?
[22:57] <yang> ze tko zapravim prevec casa za bedarije, sam se tega mi manjka
[22:57] <idioterna> jsm starejsi pa igram igrce
[22:57] <lynxlynxlynx> ne vem kolk si star, ampak nekoč si jih ziher
[22:58] <CrazyLemon> igrice niso bedarije..zdaj ko je toliko sirijcev v EU se je pametno pripraviti !
[22:58] <yang> lynxlynxlynx: od 18. leta ne vec
[22:58] <idioterna> weird
[22:58] <CrazyLemon> and insurgency does that
[22:58] <idioterna> js pa ze skos igrce spilam
[22:58] <lynxlynxlynx> od starcraftu je še najbolj podoben stratagus
[22:59] <lynxlynxlynx> uhh, kaj je z mojo slovnico? :s
[22:59] <yang> lynxlynxlynx: do kdaj je treba oddati tiste zadeve za dohodnino ?
[22:59] <lynxlynxlynx> konec leta
[22:59] <yang> mislim da lani sem hotel decembra je bilo ze prepozno
[22:59] <yang> nevem kako je letos
[23:00] <yang> se pravi se cel december lahko ?
[23:00] <idioterna> kere stvari za dohodnino
[23:00] <idioterna> do konca marca je treba za prejsnje leto
[23:00] <yang> donacijo za dobrodelnost
[23:00] <CrazyLemon> ma tist 0.5%
[23:01] <msev-1> Zanc sm ugotovu da se nas zavarovalniski agent ukvarja s flightsimi ze od 1980, svaka cast. Je reku da sta ble tkt sam dve kocke hehd
[23:01] <msev-1> Zj je pa Xplane kr najs
[23:02] <lynxlynxlynx> a ni xplane kr goto zadeva?
[23:02] <msev-1> Je ja
[23:03] <msev-1> Sam je fajn dodat se dost dodatkov
[23:03] <msev-1> Brez vsega je kr premal
[23:04] <lynxlynxlynx> nisem nikoli probal
[23:05] <lynxlynxlynx> enkrat v oš sem dobil demo ene mainstream letalščine, pa nama dvema takrat še vzletet ni uspelo
[23:05] <yang> te igrice flight simulator se pa se spomnim
[23:05] <yang> ampak to smo se v osnovni soli igrali
[23:06] <msev-1> Ja zj sm se naucu en business jet eclipse 550 naokol furat
[23:06] <yang> to bi mogu met un posebi zic pa spredaj velik monitor, tko kot v pravem simulatorju, pa par konzol s knofi :)
[23:06] <msev-1> Vse od tega da przgem do flight plana pa kko delat z avtopilotom pa to, ni tok zlo tezko ubistvu
[23:07] <msev-1> Ja to bi blo zakon yang
[23:07] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3eQPQIt3Q0
[23:07] <Pepelka> Flight Simulator Setup 2013 - YouTube
[23:07] <Pepelka> »Hey guys so people have been requesting to see my flight sim setup and where i do my recordings so here it is. please like the video if you enjoyed and be su...«
[23:07] <yang> mislim malo boljsega od tega
[23:08] <yang> mogoce ce res zelo dobro tole nastudiras, bi znal celo pravo letalo z malo teorije letet
[23:09] <msev-1> https://youtu.be/3gRQr4-puVw
[23:09] <Pepelka> A320 Homecockpit | Departure and Approach at Munich - YouTube
[23:09] <Pepelka> »Another flight I took at http://www.cockpitsim.de/ This time I flew from Munich to Innsbruck and back to Munich. In this video you will only see the departur...«
[23:09] <yang> ja to je pravi simulator
[23:09] <yang> verjetno precej drag
[23:10] <lynxlynxlynx> tist demo je bil bolj špil kot ornk simulacija (ena vojaška letala), zato je bil fail še večji
[23:10] <yang> saj vsi piloti morajo obvezno skozi tako teorijo
[23:10] <yang> lynxlynxlynx: ma vem da na OŠ so eni nastudirali ta letala da jih niso taoj crashnili pa da so leteli kake dve minute :)
[23:11] <yang> pa leminge smo igrali tut
[23:11] <yang> pa gremline
[23:11] <msev-1> Baje si lah za 5k eur nardis tak simulator
[23:11] <yang> to je blo pomoje 286
[23:11] <yang> lemingi so bli kr kul
[23:11] <yang> si jih moral nanizat
[23:11] <msev-1> http://www.aopa.org/-/media/Images/AOPA/Home/News/All/2012/August/Back-to-the-future/1208turbine-eclipse-avionics.jpg?w=320&h=218&as=1
[23:12] <yang> http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/
[23:12] <Pepelka> Play Lemmings!
[23:12] <Pepelka> »Lemmings - Elizium«
[23:12] <yang> GNU :)
[23:12] <msev-1> Upam da mi rata tega prepricat
[23:13] <msev-1> K ga convertam
[23:13] <msev-1> Gnome 3 noce
[23:13] <msev-1> Tko da ubuntu mate al pa cinnamon
[23:14] <yang> msev-1: za 5000 eur mas ti pomoje narjeno licenco lahka za sportno letalo
[23:15] <msev-1> A tok pocen
[23:15] <msev-1> Najs
[23:15] <yang> nevem
[23:15] <msev-1> Pomoje da je precej drazje
[23:15] <yang> ja odvisno kok ur moras letet
[23:16] <yang> letalne ure so verjetno drage
[23:17] <yang> Unser "Cockpit-Simulator" ist ein originalgetreuer Nachbau im
[23:17] <yang> Maßstab 1:1 des Cockpits eines Airbus A320 mit all seinen Steuerelementen, Instrumenten und System-Funktionen.
[23:17] <yang> http://www.cockpitsim.de/
[23:17] <Pepelka> index-CockpitSim
[23:17] <yang> kul
[23:19] <yang> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELufY-RPQ8o
[23:19] <Pepelka> Postal - Trailer - YouTube
[23:19] <Pepelka> »Postal is directed by the notorious Uwe Boll and adapted from the highly successful computer game of the same name. In the ironically named city of Paradise,...«
[23:20] <yang> oz tole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt_tv7t79WY
[23:20] <Pepelka> Secret First Sequence of Postal - The Movie by Uwe Boll - YouTube
[23:20] <Pepelka> »CHECK OUT: www.postal-themovie.com Secret First Sequence of Postal - The Movie by Uwe Boll CHECK OUT: www.postal-themovie.com«
[23:25] <yang> LN !
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-cz
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[10:06] <Grayfoox> ahoj
[17:21] <Gray_> zdar
[17:29] <Gray_> je tu někdo kdo mi poradí s termiálem?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.124692
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-africa
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[13:53] <Kilos> hello africa
[14:15] <Na3iL> hey Kilos
[14:16] <Kilos> hows things there Na3iL
[14:16] <Na3iL> fine as usual, what about you Kilos
[14:16] <Kilos> good here too ty
[14:16] <Kilos> hi philipballew
[14:17] <Na3iL> There's nothing to help here? Any ToDo tasks?
[14:21] <Na3iL> Kilos, there's 2 missing LoCo teams in the list, anyone who tried to contact them?
[14:21] <Kilos> yeah i tried months ago
[14:21] <Kilos> or nerly a year
[14:21] <Kilos> bearly
[14:21] <Kilos> ai
[14:22] <Kilos> nearly
[14:22] <Kilos> you are welcome to try make contact for us Na3iL
[14:22] <philipballew> Kilos, he man
[14:22] <Kilos> please do infact
[14:22] <Na3iL> Yep Kilos I will try to contact them
[14:22] <Kilos> ty vet much
[14:23] <Kilos> would be nice to see all teams represented here
[14:24] <Na3iL> You are welcome Kilos :D
[14:25] <Kilos> :D
[14:25] <Na3iL> Otherwise, did you feel that the look of the WiKi pages of Ubuntu Africa are a little awful?
[14:25] <Kilos> i havent looked for a long while
[14:26] <Na3iL> I think we should make a new look and a good summary
[14:26] <Kilos> feel free to improve anything
[14:27] <Kilos> philipballew house th facebook side doing
[14:27] <Kilos> ?
[14:27] <Kilos> I am going to delete my facebook account before too long
[14:28] <Na3iL> Anyone who want help in the documentation part, it would be much nice :D
[14:31] <Kilos> Na3iL you need to wake elacheche up again
[14:31] <Kilos> he is getting worse than me
[14:31] <Kilos> even the young elacheche as well
[14:31] <Na3iL> hahaha, I think he's engaged with his work
[14:32] <Kilos> hi Benno-007
[14:38] <Na3iL> Kilos, I have an idea, Idk if it works or no! We add a section "WhoAreWe" the section will be known as Ubuntu Africa Ambassadors
[14:38] <Na3iL> It will make peeps contribute to the team..
[14:38] <Kilos> go for it
[14:38] <Na3iL> Okay
[14:39] <Kilos> just give me a few months to get all sorted out before you give me work to do
[14:39] <Na3iL> Okay, take your time. I will need your opinion every time
[14:40] <Kilos> just ask when you see me here or ask inetpro he knows much more than i do
[14:40] <Na3iL> Okay
[14:40] <Kilos> oh Cryterion is also here
[14:45] <Kilos> oh Na3iL even just ask elacheche what he thinks
[14:45] <Na3iL> Sure :D
[14:45] <Kilos> he has good taste too
[14:46] <Kilos> and thinks much more modern than i do
[14:46] <Na3iL> Yep
[15:22] <Kilos> hmm... Na3iL you still busy with it
[15:22] <Kilos> ?
[15:22] <Na3iL> Yep Kilos
[15:22] <Kilos> ok
[15:23] <Na3iL> Why? you want help in anything?
[15:23] <Kilos> oh dont forget to try get more lugs to join as well
[15:24] <Na3iL> Yep sure
[15:24] <Kilos> no i got an email saying the page was changed and when i clicked attachments i got a server error
[15:24] <Kilos> np
[15:25] <Na3iL> I was just preview them before I submit my changes
[15:29] <Kilos> cool
[15:37] <Na3iL> Kilos, I will modify almost all the infrastructure of the wiki
[15:37] <Kilos> go ahead Na3iL
[15:37] <Kilos> have a ball
[15:38] <Na3iL> :D you will like it
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-vn
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[04:34] <vubuntor742> chào anh chị admin
[04:35] <vubuntor742> hdh ubuntu của em không hiển thị menu
[04:37] <vubuntor742> cos cách nào reset ubuntu được không
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.131036
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2015-11-22-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[10:53] <zequence> sakrecoer_: OvenWerk1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Resources
[10:54] <zequence> OvenWerk1: freewheel is when processing is not done in realtime?
[14:59] <OvenWerk1> zequence: yes, freewheel is for non-realtime. This means that no matter how heavy the dsp is it has enough time to finish, though in general an export goes faster in free wheel because most processing _is_ finished faster than needed.
[15:21] <sakrecoer_> zequence: OvenWerk1 i added the fontforge doc to the page you indictaed zequence :)
[15:29] <sakrecoer_> can i just sudo apt-get upgrade my 15.10 dev install or should i grab the new iso?
[16:41] <sakrecoer_> tried sudo do-release-upgrade from this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/InstallDevelopmentRelease
[16:41] <sakrecoer_> got "No new release found"
[16:41] <sakrecoer_> i'll give the iso a spin...
[16:43] <sakrecoer_> after upgrading the devel release of 15.10, i noticed the scirbus icon is still missing....
[16:43] <sakrecoer_> :/ if it slipped in the official iso, i guess i will have to blame myself for not finding the time to test it
[19:09] <zequence> sakrecoer_: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[19:09] <zequence> I'll fix the page. Forgot to add the -d
[19:23] <sakrecoer_> zequence: thanks!
[21:39] <sakrecoer_> so, got the xenial-dev running
[21:40] <sakrecoer_> scribus icon is absent. but so is scribus... is it because when i learned how to repackage it, it was removed?
[21:41] <sakrecoer_> apt-get installed it now...
[21:41] <sakrecoer_> and icon is added.. :)
[22:00] <sakrecoer_> gimp website links to this tool: http://www.selapa.net/swatchbooker/ it seems to be a bit like agave, but also for print.
[22:00] <sakrecoer_> anyways... i'll compile a few taughts in an email to the list...
[22:01] <sakrecoer_> read you soon!
[22:05] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: I have scribus from ISO install.
[22:05] <OvenWerk1> (1604)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.134518
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[23:21] <abrer> ayyyy
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.135160
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2015-11-22-#juju-dev
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[03:43] <axw> katco natefinch-afk: sorry, I should have had my juju/juju branch ready in time to land it along with the others. it's landed now, anyway.
[21:20] <fwereade> I'm feeling a strong desire not to test worker/environ/manifold.go -- which currently looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13458228/
[21:20] <fwereade> someone please disabuse me of the notion that it's so simple that there are obviously no bugs
[21:26] <perrito666> fwereade: I am officially on holiday so, since this will not be my problem for a week: knock yourself out
[21:26] <perrito666> :p
[21:26] * fwereade cheers heartily at perrito666
[21:26] <fwereade> enjoy your holiday :)
[21:26] <perrito666> fwereade: tx :)
[21:33] <thumper> fwereade: hey ,would love a 5 min chat if you have time
[21:40] <fwereade> thumper, heyhey
[21:40] <fwereade> thumper, let's
[21:40] <thumper> k
[21:41] <thumper> fwereade: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/machine-dep-engine?hl=en&authuser=1
[21:44] <menn0> fwereade: fine by me
[23:17] <axw> wallyworld: webcam isn't working, be there soon as I fix it
[23:17] <wallyworld> sure
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.137431
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-touch
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[04:10] <d^_^b_> hellooooooooo
[10:00] <lupet> Hi, if installation of ubuntu touch failed to enter in recovery mode how is possible install?
[10:30] <mcphail> Is anyone else finding OTA8 really buggy? I've seen high battery drain and a couple of episodes of "demonic possession" where unity8 appears to be receiving repeated screen presses from an invisible finger. Didn't see this on OTA7
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: wich device mate?
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> pretty stable on bq 4.5 here mcphail
[10:32] <mcphail> yes - bq4.5
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[10:33] <mcphail> just had my phone dialer repeatedly dial 6's and 9's, hence the "demonic" bit
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog perhaps
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> see whats going on?
[10:34] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: nothing was noted. Seems like the system thought it was receiving normal input
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: or if nothing works, reset phone to defaults?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> i had scope freezes on ota7
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> got fixxed on ota8 now
[10:34] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: I might need to reflash OTA7 if this persists
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: i would reflash to ota8
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> can do miracles sometimes
[10:36] <mcphail> maybe. I'm not a believer in "bad flashes". I think this is a genuine problem as someone else poster here about bad battery drain
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: how much time your battery flows?
[10:36] <mcphail> perhaps some input event is getting stuck and looping
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> ill keep an eye on it
[10:37] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: about 80% loss over the working day, rather than 20--30% as per OTA7
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> wow
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: heavy use? movie watching?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> maybe related to specific apps?
[10:37] <mcphail> sitting idle in my pocket bar one 10 minute call
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> thats extreme mate
[10:39] <popey> mcphail, my e4.5 has dropped from 100 to 77% in 20 hours
[10:39] <popey> it's doing nothing but getting notifications
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> popey: yeah i think pretty stable for me like that also
[10:40] <mcphail> popey: aah. Adds weight to the theory that an input event is looping
[10:40] <popey> my rc-proposed one is 97% since being 100% at 4pm yesterday
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> nexus7 also stable on devel-proposed here
[10:41] <mcphail> I'll give it a couple of days and see if it calms down
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: i would try ota8 reflash to defaults
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> see if it persists
[10:42] <mcphail> I can't risk a flash for a couple of days as I'm on call. Might reflash after that
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: /var/log/dmesg show anything usefull?
[10:53] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: I haven't seen anything. But I haven't been able to get a terminal open during an "event" as I can't switch away from the foregrounded app and have to reboot
[10:53] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: checking logs post-hoc hasn't shown anything
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:54] <mcphail> If it happens in the house today I might be able to hook it up via adb and see
[10:56] <mcphail> Other possibility might be a hardware failure, so OTA8 might be coincidental
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2302873
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> they dont mention ota8 though..
[10:58] <mcphail> I had one episode of (fairly) quick battery drain on OTA7, but none of the other symptoms
[10:59] * mcphail will give it a couple of days
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> ok good luck mcphail
[11:00] <mcphail> cheers lotuspsychje
[13:21] <jkb_> hi
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> welcome
[13:22] <jkb_> i have a questino to uitk-1,3 and backward compatibility. Can anybody help on this?
[13:23] <jkb_> since when have 1.3 supported (OTA-7 or 8)? For a specific app I want to change to 1.3 but what will happen to users not on the latest OTA?
[13:46] <peat-psuwit> Anyone with supported device, could you please give me content of /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state after 1.)Turning off Wi-Fi 2.)Turning on Wi-Fi
[14:20] <bony> is it possible to run jar files in ubuntu phone? I am looking for running some small applications on a ubuntu tablet kind of games.
[14:57] <popey> peat-psuwit, i just tried to do that over ssh :)
[14:58] <peat-psuwit> popey: LOL. Bad luck, then.
[14:59] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-22-145915.png
[14:59] <popey> thats network on->off->on
[15:32] <drooly> hello, silly noob question from a long-time linux user: is it possible to update, upgrade and install software on ubuntu phone just like on any other ubuntu install? does it follow ubuntu release cycles?
[15:33] <peat-psuwit> popey: Thank you for that. On my phone (LG L90), WirelessEnabled doesn't turns to true when I re-enabled Wi-Fi. Maybe it's because Wi-Fi on-off doesn't work on my phone yet.
[16:00] <k1l_> drooly: no. not really.
[16:01] <k1l_> as long as there is no real convergance i dont want dekstop-programs on my phone since they are a pain to handle with finger input.
[16:20] <drooly> k1l_, i understand that. but what about literally "is it possible without breaking my system"? and what about command-line utilities, are those the same builds as on desktop? and, most importantly, is ubuntu phone designed to be continuously (if not endlessly) updated&graded? like, good'ol sudo apt-get update?
[16:48] <popey> drooly, you can drop various command line utils on the phone, sure.
[16:48] <popey> i put mine in ~/bin/
[16:52] <drooly> popey, thanks for that, but it doesn't really answer my question: is ubuntu phone designed to be updated/graded just like a normal ubuntu installation?
[16:52] <popey> no
[16:52] <popey> OTA updates are delivered as read-only images - and diffs
[16:53] <popey> you _can_ make your phone read-write and use apt, but if it breaks (it shouldn't, but it is possible) then you may have to re-flash it
[16:55] <drooly> okay, wow, i guess i have to read up on what OTA means.
[16:55] <popey> Over The Air
[16:55] <popey> system updates basically
[16:56] <drooly> how does that differ from how ubuntu desktop handles things?
[16:56] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-19-202731.png
[16:56] <popey> like that
[16:56] <popey> well, desktop uses apt
[16:56] <popey> this doesnt
[16:57] <popey> we build the image using apt, dpkg etc, but the update that goes out to devices is just a big fat binary diff between previous update and next
[16:57] <popey> so as you see in that screenshot, 68MB update between two updates (6 weeks apart)
[16:58] <drooly> ok, i see. what if i install some app that is not installed by default, how (if) will it be included in subsequent updates? and do those ota updates reflect what is going on on ubuntu desktop? because convergence?
[16:58] <popey> System updates are separate from apps.
[16:59] <popey> Apps are delivered as click packages, which can be thought of as like .apk files on android, self contained
[16:59] <popey> so in that screenshot you'd see your apps that you've installed listed beneath the system update, but all in one screen
[17:00] <popey> There's a lot of commonality between desktop and phone - e.g. stuff like dbus, systemd, network manager etc
[17:00] <popey> but there's (currently) some differences
[17:00] <popey> desktop = X, compiz, Unity, LibreOffice.
[17:00] <popey> Phone = Mir, Unity 8, confined applications
[17:01] <popey> If you install something by making the phone read/write and use apt, then it's not really defined what happens, but typically things can get a little messy
[17:02] <drooly> what if i restrict that to non-gui apps?
[17:02] <popey> depends how / where you install them
[17:02] <popey> if you put them in ~/bin then they won't be touched by the system updates
[17:02] <popey> same if you put them somewhere in /opt
[17:04] <drooly> i'm beginning to understand. it's not as straightforward as i'd hoped. i'm a little afraid to run into the same sort of difficulties (impossibilities even) one tends to run into with linux apps on android. to make it clearer, i was thinking of mosh & sshfs to make my server content available on the phone.
[17:06] <popey> There is a terminal in the store, not installed by default, but easily installable.
[17:06] <popey> I haven't tried mosh, but we ship ssh client out of the box
[17:06] <popey> not tried sshfs
[17:06] <popey> It's very different to android, _way_ easier to run linux apps
[17:07] <popey> e.g. I often build linux apps directly on my nexus 7 and copy the resulting binaries to my phone
[17:07] <drooly> both have ubuntu installed?
[17:08] <popey> yes
[17:08] <popey> I even do stupid stuff like run dosbox on my phone
[17:08] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-18-203822.png
[17:08] <popey> :)
[17:09] <drooly> makes sense.
[17:09] <drooly> what about android apps? ... now i'm just asking out of curiosity
[17:10] <popey> The Ubuntu phone doesn't ship with dalvik runtime
[17:10] <popey> We don't (currently, maybe not ever) support android apps
[17:11] <drooly> ok, that's cool (i just thought that that's maybe the very first question many people ask... :-)
[17:11] <popey> We get that a lot
[17:12] <popey> FAQs:- 1) can I run android apps, 2) can I run whatsapp
[17:12] <popey> near-daily
[17:12] <drooly> in any case, you helped me a lot. i will copy this to a file :D now i know quite a lot more what to look for and what not to look for.
[17:13] <popey> there's some more useful info I can find, one moment...
[17:14] <popey> https://www.gitbook.com/book/gurucubano/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/details
[17:14] <popey> lots of technical info in there
[17:15] <drooly> bookmarked. i think i'll go for the e5 though; unless some generous soul will help me buy the meizu.
[17:18] <popey> i saw someone mention that bq have an 'outlet' for refurb devices
[17:18] <popey> so you could potentially get one of them a bit cheaper
[17:21] <drooly> i'm looking at store.bq.com but cannot find that anywhere.
[17:24] <popey> http://store.bq.com/es/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5-outlet
[17:24] <popey> maybe contact them, they're quite responsive.
[17:25] <ludo2> Hi!
[17:27] <d^_^b_> hello
[17:27] <drooly> thanks. i'm quite set on not buying the e4.5, and i cannot find that offer for the e5...
[17:27] <ludo2> I'm tryin' to do that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/meizu-mx/general/meizu-mx4-how-to-flash-ubuntu-touch-t3210039
[17:27] <drooly> you wouldn't happen to know if ubuntu phone would work on the bq e5 4G, too?
[17:28] <drooly> http://store.bq.com/es/aquaris-e5-4-g
[17:28] <ludo2> But X don't understand the first step:
[17:29] <ludo2> Exactly this part: WHEN POPUP UPGRADE THE DRIVER OF THIS UNKNOWN DEVICE (FASTY) FROM THE FOLDER "Drivers Hard Reset"
[17:29] <d^_^b_> does it works --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p3100 thanks
[17:30] <ludo2> When I give the path, Window$ say me there is no good driver.
[17:30] <ludo2> :-(
[17:30] <ludo2> Any idea?
[17:35] <d^_^b_> why do a chan if no one answer?
[17:36] <k1l_> ludo2: best to ask in that channel what exactly they mean and if there are known problems with that.
[17:38] <ludo2> I try to flash my meizu MX4.
[17:41] <ludo2> k1l_: Because of a problem when using ubuntu-device-flash . My phone doesn't expose adb.
[17:42] <ludo2> In this video, the author explain he had the same problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5fhoHL-mR4
[17:43] <k1l_> if its a ubuntu system run "sudo update-usbids" to make sure to have the latest usbids database
[17:48] <ludo2> But, softs that are used in this tutorial are on Windows.
[17:49] <ludo2> If there is a way to do that with GNU/Linux system, I'd prefered. But I didn't see softs to do that.
[17:51] <k1l_> ludo2: i think you better ask your question in that xda thread. i dont know about that sort of software that is used there
[17:52] <ludo2> Me too. :-)
[17:52] <popey> drooly, I don't, but doubt it
[17:59] <drooly> popey: 'k, thanks'n'bye.
[17:59] <popey> o/
[18:25] <k1l_> the BQ e4.5 got a open bootloader, right?
[18:26] <k1l_> iirc you can flash between ubuntu-touch and android. or do they both just have signed kernels?
[18:31] <mac_> trying to port ubuntu touch over android. ramdisk/script/touch I get stuck at "mount -o bind ${rootmnt}/run/image.fstab $FSTAB || panic "drop to adb""
[18:31] <mac_> what does this line mean?
[18:32] <mac_> While booting I reboot after a minute and look at the last kmsg. I have added additional debugging lines to find out where am I stuck at.
[18:33] <mac_> this is the last code it executes and doesnt move any further "mount -o bind ${rootmnt}/run/image.fstab $FSTAB || panic "drop to adb"
[18:44] <popey> k1l_, our friend studio_ flips between android and ubuntu on his bq
[18:45] <k1l_> yeah i know. but is the bootloader open (as to boot any kernel) or is ubuntu using a signed kernel.
[18:46] <popey> i think its open AFAIAA
[18:47] <k1l_> iirc there are locked bootloader devices but the signing key is public, so you can sign your own kernel so the locked bootloader works like its open.
[18:47] <k1l_> speaking not of the BQ
[18:57] <timppa_> how can I load latest ubuntu touch "preinstalled" .tar.gz to a device?
[20:30] <Edwardd> Hello
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> Edwardd: welcome
[20:31] <Edwardd> Are you a bot?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> Edwardd: no :p
[20:31] <Edwardd> Can you help me?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> Edwardd: ask a question first
[20:32] <Edwardd> I have problem with wifi hexadecimal password
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> Edwardd: on ubuntu phone?
[20:34] <Edwardd> Yes, I cant login on wifi witj hexadecimal password
[20:37] <Edwardd> The wifi ask me the password again and again
[20:45] <k1l_> hexadecimal is nothing else than regular numbers and letters. so are you sure you wrote it the right way? case sensitiv?
[20:45] <Edwardd> Where go the bot? I mean the bot man
[20:46] <Edwardd> k1l_ yes I wrote the correct password and did new password to make sure
[20:46] <Edwardd> The password was 504 bits random by website
[23:41] <ghosalmartin> hello, anybody tried to build ubuntu touch ontop of android 6?
[23:48] <ahoneybun> mm ubuntu sdk does not like Kubuntu
[23:48] <ahoneybun> very odd
[23:50] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13461896/
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[01:48] <ipeter> Work^Seony: 비틀 타고 왔습니다.
[01:48] <ipeter> 생각보다 정숙하고
[01:48] <ipeter> 고속주행시 안정감도 있네요.
[01:48] <ipeter> 근데 시트가 너무 불편해요.
[01:49] <ipeter> 뒷자석 의자는 거의 못탄다고 보면 될꺼같구요
[01:49] <ipeter> 들어가는것 자체가 힘들어서요.
[01:50] <ipeter> 휴..
[01:50] <ipeter> 그냥 가성비로는 트랙스나, qm3가 훨씨 나을듯 싶습니ㅏ.
[01:50] <ipeter> suv타는데
[01:50] <ipeter> 확실히 승용차로 오기는 힘드네요.
[01:51] <ipeter> 일단 타고 내리는것 자체가 suv타다가 이거 탈래니 불편해요.
[03:01] <autowiz> 아악 이놈의 은행 사이트들 플러그인 설치때문에 불편해 죽겠네요
[03:02] <autowiz> 액티브 액스 고 실행파일이고 없애라고 ~~~
[03:04] <MENT> 쿨럭
[05:36] <autowiz> http://postfiles2.naver.net/20150123_209/hae521_1421982117765RKMFM_JPEG/CAM00004.jpg?type=w2
[05:36] <autowiz> 서비스 좋은데요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[05:45] <HolyKnight> zz
[06:58] <PotatoGim> 어우.. 이사하니까 불편한거 투성이네요...
[07:00] <PotatoGim> 인터넷 회선 신청이 문제가 생겨서 수요일까지 테더링을 해서 써야하는...
[07:04] <autowiz> 저희는 IP 바뀌면서 고객사들 방화벽 바꾸기전까지 원격접속이 안되서
[07:04] <autowiz> 한번 이사할때마다 장난 아닙니다. ㅋㅋ 그래서 IDC 있는 서버 IP 도 하나 추가로 열어놨어야 하는데
[07:05] <autowiz> 이놈의 아래직원들은 들어먹지를 않고 캬캬
[07:06] <autowiz> 월요일도 아니고 수요일까지요? 허얼
[07:10] <autowiz> 포테토님 오늘도 회사 계신거에요??
[07:11] <PotatoGim> 예 ㅎㅎ 짐 정리도 좀 더 하고...
[07:11] <PotatoGim> 공부도 할 겸...
[07:11] <autowiz> 아참 저번에 전번 잘 받았습니다. 그때 바로 외출해버려서 ㅠㅠ
[07:12] <autowiz> 쿼리온줄 한참 후에 봤네요 ㅠㅠ
[07:13] <autowiz> 저는 문자가 안와서 ㅠㅠ 미천한 저같은놈한테는 전번 안주시는줄 알고 흑흑 ㅠㅠ
[07:13] <PotatoGim> ㅎㅎ 괜찮습니다. IRC 하는 분들이라고 매일 앞에만 앉아있는 것도 아닌걸요.
[07:14] <PotatoGim> 헉.. 제가 더 미천..
[07:14] <autowiz> me 1000
[07:14] <PotatoGim> 서로의 미천함을 자랑하는... 훈훈한...ㅜ
[07:14] <autowiz> 뭐 저도 사무실입니다.
[07:15] <autowiz> 멘티 녀석들 불러놓고 듀얼부팅 설명해주고 있습니다. ㅋㅋ
[07:15] <PotatoGim> 오오.. 멘토도 하시고...
[07:16] <autowiz> 뭐 시덥잖은 하수 멘토 입니다 ㅋㅋ
[07:17] <PotatoGim> ㅎㅎ... 새 사무실에 오면서 더 이상 일어서서 일하기가 힘들게 되었네요...
[07:19] <autowiz> 일어서서 일한다라... 그 서서 일하는 책상 있으신거에요? ㅎㅎ
[07:19] <autowiz> 이사하고 힘들어지셨다면 , 파티션이라던가
[07:20] <autowiz> 사무실 구조가 바껴서 그러신거에요? 설마 천정이 낮아서는 아닐꺼고 ㅎㅎ
[07:20] <PotatoGim> 원래는 벽을 보고 있어서 벽에다가 암을 박아버렸거든요.
[07:20] <autowiz> 파티션을 한 2.5m 높이로 세우고 파티션에다가 모니터를 박아버리는 ㅠㅠ
[07:20] <PotatoGim> 대신 낮은 책상 하나를 위에다가 얹어놓고 일했는데..
[07:21] <PotatoGim> 제 권한 밖의 일이네요...ㅜ
[07:21] <autowiz> 저는 가뜩이나 다리가 붓고 그래서 가능한 서서 있기보다는 다리를 보조의자에 걸치고 있게 됩니다.
[07:22] <autowiz> 종아리가 통통 부어서 마치 메모리폼처럼 누르면 손가락 자국이 쑥 하고 난답니다 냐햐햐햐
[07:22] <PotatoGim> 헉...
[07:22] <autowiz> 한 3일 집에서 누워서 놀면 없어지는데 집에를 자주 못가니 ㅠㅠ
[07:23] <PotatoGim> 역시 건강은 잘 쉬는게 최상의 처방...
[07:23] <autowiz> 김가네 해신볶음밥이라고 어제는 그게 너무 먹고 싶어서 아침부터 사먹었는데
[07:23] <autowiz> 매콤매콤한것이 포테토님 생각이 모락모락
[07:24] <PotatoGim> 오... 볶음밥인데 매콤한가요??
[07:24] <PotatoGim> http://storefarm.naver.com/micap/products/332723232
[07:24] <autowiz> 해산물 볶음밥인데 꽤나 매콤하더라구요 ㅋㅋ
[07:24] <PotatoGim> 으.. 어제부터 느끼한 것들만 먹었는데 급땡기네요 ㅋㅋ
[07:24] <autowiz> 저도 모니터 위치 조정가능한 vesa 홀 달린 암을 하나 살려고 했는데
[07:25] <autowiz> 가격이 20~30 ㅠㅠ 그돈이면 그냥 모니터를 하나 더 사는게 더 좋아보이더라구요
[07:25] <PotatoGim> 그렇기는 하죠...ㅜ 안그래도 키보드를 질러대놔서...
[07:25] <PotatoGim> 자금이 없네요...
[07:26] <PotatoGim> http://www.elysia365.com/shop/view.asp?idx=531
[07:26] <PotatoGim> 이게 일체형 중에서는 가장 만만해보이긴 하는데...
[07:27] <autowiz> 저는 어릴때부터 바닥을 좋아했던거 같습니다.
[07:28] <autowiz> 방바닥에 엎드리거나 앉아서도 공부 잘 했고, 중고딩때 부터는 거의 대부분 시간이 의자에 앉아있는시간이었고
[07:28] <PotatoGim> ㅎㅎ 저도 대학교 들어가기 전까지는 항상 바닥에서 자고 바닥에서 양반다리로 공부하고...
[07:28] <autowiz> 고2부터는 힙합춤 춘다고 교실바닥 잔디 바닥 , 길바닥 가리지 않고 뒹굴뒹굴 했었고...
[07:28] <autowiz> 근데 어째 지금은 인생이 바닥인거 같은 아흑 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[07:30] <PotatoGim> 오오.. 힙합까지 섭렵하신...
[07:32] <PotatoGim> http://www.interpark.com/product/MallDisplay.do?_method=detail&sc.shopNo=0000100000&firpg=01&sc.prdNo=3378129691&sc.dispNo=016001&sc.dispNo=016001
[07:32] <PotatoGim> 오오.. 이거는 좀 싸고 클래식한...
[07:32] <PotatoGim> MDF일 것 같은 냄새가 나긴 하는데...
[07:33] <ircCloud_autowiz> 첫번째 사진 이쁘네요 ㅋㅋ
[07:33] <PotatoGim> http://www.11st.co.kr/product/SellerProductDetail.tmall?method=getSellerProductDetail&prdNo=1374784542&vkey=RLHIS0HZX24SKUXZ3933LKVUU4XMJ4
[07:34] <PotatoGim> 와.. 이건 폭이 좁은거 빼며.ㄴ..
[07:35] <ircCloud_autowiz> 바로 위에껀 높 낮이 자주 조정할려면 엄청 불편할거 같은데요 ㅠㅠ
[07:36] <PotatoGim> 음... 스트레칭한다는 긍정적 마음가짐으로...ㅋㅋ
[07:37] <ircCloud_autowiz> 서서일하실때 집중력이라던가 그런건 어떠신거 같아요?
[07:38] <PotatoGim> 플라시보인지는 몰라도 확실히 집중이 더 잘 되는 것 같아요.
[07:38] <PotatoGim> 앉아있으면 좀 느슨해지는 느낌인데
[07:39] <PotatoGim> 서있으니까 몸이 좀 더 긴장하는?
[07:46] <sungyo> 어느 네임서버로 접속했느냐에 따라 포트포워딩 주소를 할당해줄 방법이 있을까요?
[07:53] <PotatoGim> 아... 어려운 문제네요...
[07:53] <PotatoGim> 네임 서버 단에서 질의가 들어온 클라이언트에 대해 라우팅을 해주는 장비나 서버 쪽으로 설정을 전달해야 할텐데
[07:53] <PotatoGim> 비용이 꽤나 비쌀 것 같습니다.
[07:54] <sungyo> 결국 비용으로 해결을....( " ")
[07:54] <PotatoGim> 그 비용이라 함은... 환경을 구성하는 시간 비용에 대한 삽질이...
[07:54] <PotatoGim> 타이밍도 안 맞을 수도 있구요.
[07:55] <sungyo> 음? 서버측에서 어느 서버도메인으로 접속해왔는지 판단할 방법이 있나요?
[07:56] <PotatoGim> 클라이언트 <--> 네임 서버 <--> 서비스 서버(혹은 라우팅 서버)
[07:56] <PotatoGim> 요런 형태가 아닌가요?
[07:56] <PotatoGim> 아 실수.
[07:57] <sungyo> 상황을 설명드리자면...
[07:57] <PotatoGim> 서비스 서버랑 클라이언트랑 화살표를 이어야 하는데...
[07:57] <sungyo> hosting.kr에서 도메인을 하나 구매했어요. 거기에 서브도메인을 하나 신청해서 제 서버의 특정 포트로 접속하게 해주고싶은데, 방법이 안나오네요.^0^
[07:58] <PotatoGim> 서비스는 HTTP인가요?
[07:58] <sungyo> 네.
[07:59] <PotatoGim> 흠... 서브도메인에 대해서 리버스 프록시를 하시는게 더 쉽지 않을까요?
[08:01] <sungyo> address.net/something 이렇게요?
[08:02] <PotatoGim> 네
[08:03] <PotatoGim> 단순히 호스트만 필요하신거면
[08:03] <sungyo> 서브 도메인으로 seafile을 하나 돌려보려고 고민을 좀 해봤었어요.
[08:03] <PotatoGim> 그냥 호스트에 대해서 특정 IP로 매핑이 될 것 같은데..
[08:03] <PotatoGim> seafile은 어떤건가요?
[08:05] <sungyo> 오픈소스형 파일 클라우드에요.
[08:05] <sungyo> seafile.com
[08:05] <PotatoGim> 아하... 네트워크 스토리지 개발하면서 저런 것도 몰랐네요...ㅜ
[08:05] <PotatoGim> 흠...
[08:05] <sungyo> 회사에서 개발중이세요?
[08:06] <PotatoGim> 예~
[08:06] <PotatoGim> 흠... 가비아 같은 경우에는
[08:06] <sungyo> 클라이언트 프로그램까지 제법 잘 되어있어요.
[08:06] <sungyo> 꽤나 안정적이구요.
[08:06] <PotatoGim> 도메인에 대해서 호스트 별로 다르게 매핑이 가능하기는 한데...
[08:07] <sungyo> 스토리지는..사내에서 쓰실건가요?
[08:08] <PotatoGim> 아.. 저희 회사가 네트워크 스토리지 솔루션 팔아먹는 회사입니다 ㅎㅎ
[08:08] <sungyo> 아..
[08:21] <ipeter> 휴
[08:21] <ipeter> 일요일 저녁 잘 보내고 계신가요?
[08:21] <ipeter> 포테토님 저좀 취업시켜주세요
[08:24] <jun> 일요일 저녁이라는게 엄청나게 슬프네요;;;ㅜㅜ
[08:34] <HolyKnight> ㅠㅠ
[10:03] <autowiz> 저녁들 맛있게 드셨습니까 ㅠㅠ
[10:16] <MENT> 넵
[10:16] <MENT> 저녁 맛있게 드셨나요. ㅎㅎ
[10:21] <autowiz> 아직 못먹었습니다 ㅋ
[10:24] <MENT> 컥
[10:25] <autowiz> 뭘 먹어야 좋을까요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[10:32] <MENT> 음
[10:32] <MENT> 돈까스요
[10:32] <MENT> 음
[10:32] <MENT> 제육볶음이요
[10:32] <MENT> 음
[10:32] <MENT> 낚지덮밥이요
[10:32] <MENT> 음
[10:33] <autowiz> 제육이 좀 땡기는데 근처에 연곳이 없네요 ㅠㅠ
[10:52] <MENT> ㅜㅜ
[11:19] <autowiz> 엔신님 안녕하세요~
[12:12] <ipeter> 아.
[12:12] <ipeter> 어쩔
[12:12] <ipeter> 껀가요.
[12:12] <ipeter> 냉동실에 넣어뒀던 콜라 그새 얼어버렸습니다.
[12:12] <ipeter> ㅇ엉엉ㅇ
[12:12] <ipeter> 샤워하고 타는 목마름으로 열어봤는데
[12:12] <ipeter> 헉
[12:12] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[14:21] <Demonion> 아파트 분양 구하는데 관련 정보를 공부할만한 사이트 추천 부탁드립니다.
[14:43] <Demonion> http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=comic_new1&no=1345123&page=1&recommend=1
[14:45] <PotatoGim> ipeter: 헉.. 오시면 노예 생활 시작입니다...ㅜ
[20:00] <ipeter> PotatoGim: 포테토님? 혹시 네트워크쪽을 잘 알기위한 책좀 추천해주실 수 있나요?
[20:58] <PotatoGim> ipeter: 음.. 저는 후니의 시스코 네트워킹으로 시작했던 기억이 납니다.
[21:18] <autowiz> 저는 러닝 리눅스 ?? 랑 인터넷 으로 공부했던 ㅎㅎ
[21:18] <autowiz> cisco 네트웍 문서 겁나게 봤었고 , 후니도 대충 보긴 했습니다 ㅎㅎ
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.174466
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2015-11-22-#lubuntu
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[00:13] <noyfb> Anyone know why bluetooth won't work at all in lubuntu 15.10, and has anyone got a work around?
[00:14] <noyfb> i get the "bluez daemon is not running, bluenman-manager cannot continue..etc"
[00:15] <noyfb> ive got the applet on the autostart at login, i've tried running the blueman-applet in run, i've tried sudo service bluetooth restart
[00:16] <noyfb> i;ve reinstalled and i've now installed bluetooth gnome
[00:30] <noyfb> fuckn helpful as always. Good. You know what it fuck it, I was only trying to revive an old machine and I should have expected this shit from the geniuses at Ubuntu..god it fucking sucks. It was the first tried it when i first came to linux, nearly sent me back to windows, thankfully i found debian and never looked back. I don't know what i was thinking lol, lubuntu...ubuntu is the reason people laugh when you mention linux as a
[00:30] <noyfb> serious alternative, if you cant get bluetooth to work dont release it, fucks sake, never ever again, fucking wankers
[01:52] <jack-the-ripper> I have two questions real quick, how do I install fonts? And is it possible to change the lubuntu start up screen (the one with lubuntu and the loading dots)
[05:26] <cimbakahn> I am looking at this page, and i am confused ----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[05:27] <cimbakahn> I am looking for something in between the bare minimum install and the full install. And i want a graphical installer. Can anyone help?
[05:30] <cimbakahn> Which download do i click on?
[05:32] <cimbakahn> I also want the newest one.
[05:50] <cimbakahn> Hello!
[05:55] <cimbakahn> I am looking at this page, and i am confused ----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[05:55] <cimbakahn> I am looking for something in between the bare minimum install and the full install. And i want a graphical installer. Can anyone help?
[05:56] <cimbakahn> Which download do i click on?
[05:56] <cimbakahn> I also want the newest one.
[06:00] <Unit193> Graphical installer means desktop, unless you somehow count ncurses as 'graphical'
[06:02] <cimbakahn> When i say graphical installer, i ment an easy way to install it when i reboot to optical drive.
[06:03] <cimbakahn> I thought that is what a graphical installer was.
[06:03] <OerHeks> *just* the normal lubuntu is bare minimum itself
[06:03] <OerHeks> and has a gui and live mode
[06:06] <cimbakahn> Dosen't lubuntu-desktop have a gui and live mode?
[06:07] <cimbakahn> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <OerHeks> that is what i said.
[06:07] <OerHeks> installed maybe 6 gb, pretty small.
[06:09] <cimbakahn> amd64 or i386 I have a 64bit computer.
[13:48] <fpubuntu> bonjour, besoin d'aide wifi
[17:52] <maxaj> хай,
[17:52] <maxaj> на каком языке меня здесь поймут?
[17:54] <Unit193> !ru | maxaj
[18:10] <cimbakahn> I am looking at this page, and i am confused ----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[18:10] <cimbakahn> I am looking for something in between the bare minimum install and the full install. And i want a graphical installer. Can anyone help?
[18:10] <cimbakahn> Which download do i click on? I want the newest one, but NOT the daily build.
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| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-pl
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[10:09] <blabs> czesc wszystkie porady znalezione w necie zawiodly... mikrofon w toshiba satellite nie dziala w ubuntu 14.04 pomoze ktos?
[10:11] <gjm> install gentoo
[10:12] <Dread> tak
[10:15] <blabs> bardzo smieszne :]
[14:36] <drathir> zmutowany moze ;p
[14:59] <Bodzioslaw> albo odłączony w środku
[14:59] <Bodzioslaw> też się zdarza jak ktoś grzebał
[15:21] <gjm> ja mam wyłączony w biosie
[15:22] <firemark> [10:11:43] @gjm » install gentoo
[15:22] <firemark> taki tip
[15:22] <firemark> za setnym razem
[15:22] <firemark> jest to nudne
[15:28] <gjm> typowy firemark
[15:38] <Bodzioslaw> nigdy się nie znudzi
[15:38] <Bodzioslaw> gentoo nigdy za wiele
[15:39] <Bodzioslaw> starczy dla każdego
[15:39] <TheNumb> gentoo bedal
[16:44] <murdoc> jak polaczyc klawiature do smart tv na kompie z ubuntu?
[16:45] <TheNumb> czo
[16:46] <firemark> ale przecież to telewizor
[16:46] <firemark> naprawdę potrzebujesz klawiature do telewizora? :D
[16:46] <gjm> internet of dongs
[16:49] <murdoc> braciak zakupil lg smart tv i siebawimy na wszystkei kompy w rodzinie smigaja na ubuntu :]
[16:50] <firemark> całkiem tanio
[16:50] <murdoc> pomozecie czy bedziecie sobie jaja robic?:)
[16:51] <gjm> ja swoje już mam
[16:52] <d42> ja nawet nie wiem co ty chcesz :_D
[16:52] <gjm> :__DD
[16:53] <kuba_> murdoc: masz już Ubuntu na tym telewizorze?
[16:55] <murdoc> na telewizorze jest jakies jebane smartOS :]
[16:55] <murdoc> ubuntu mam na kompie
[16:55] <murdoc> i chce sterowac tym jebanym tv za pomoca klawiatury wireless
[16:55] <firemark> no to steruj
[16:55] <gjm> proszę się wyrażać na moim kanale
[16:55] <firemark> ja ci nie zabraniam
[16:56] <firemark> ta klawiatura jest podłączona… gdzie?
[16:56] <murdoc> no ale wpie****lem ten usb Ku**** czujnik do tv i klawiatura nie gada z znim... trzeba uruchomic jakas app na kompie czy what?
[16:56] <murdoc> @gjm: pie*** sie na r*j!
[16:57] <firemark> odgwiazdkuj się panie
[16:57] <firemark> bo nie wiem o czym piszesz
[16:57] <firemark> murdoc: jedynie co ci moge napisać, że u mnie działa. Wystarczy że podłącze klawiature do komputera :D
[16:57] <kuba_> Podłączyłeś odbiornik klawiatury do telewizora i nie działa?
[16:57] <gjm> murdoc w kubeł
[16:57] <firemark> gjm: pedau
[16:57] <gjm> :*~
[17:01] <Bodzioslaw> ale ładnie sobie poszedł
[17:10] <qermit> gjm gdzie moj op?
[17:10] <Bodzioslaw> zapytaj ChanServ
[17:11] <gjm> qermit: odpadł jak popsuli ci konto
[17:21] <qermit> gjm: odpasc to moze czarliemu szinowi
[17:22] <gjm> nos
[17:25] <qermit> nowy KatKiss moge sobie zainstalowac \o/
[19:53] <qermit> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DH21xUkdEeA 26:40
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.207179
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-tr
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[17:02] <MaRQuE> slm
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.208267
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-22-#lubuntu-devel
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[18:11] <cimbakahn> I am looking at this page, and i am confused ----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[18:11] <cimbakahn> I am looking for something in between the bare minimum install and the full install. And i want a graphical installer. Can anyone help?
[18:12] <cimbakahn> Which download do i click on? I want the newest one, but NOT the daily build.
[18:14] <joern_s> if you want a graphical installer, there is only the normal desktop iso / full install
[18:15] <joern_s> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/
[18:16] <cimbakahn> lubuntu Standard vs lubuntu-desktop vs lubuntu-core So you are saying out of these 3 only the standard has a graphical installer?
[18:17] <joern_s> lubuntu-desktop is the standard
[18:17] <joern_s> but yes, only lubuntu-desktop has a graphical installer
[18:17] <cimbakahn> I wonder if you can get Wily without getting daily......
[18:17] <joern_s> sure, use the link I gave you
[18:18] <cimbakahn> Daily means you'll get updates every single day so i don't want that one.
[18:18] <joern_s> the daily isos are for Xenial (16.04)
[18:19] <cimbakahn> Which one do i click on? My computer is 64bit. I want to burn an ISO to a disk.
[18:20] <joern_s> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/lubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:21] <cimbakahn> You are sure a lot nicer and helpful than the people in hashtag ubuntu.
[18:21] <Unit193> Dude, you asked that last night in both #ubuntu and #lubuntu, getting answers in both..
[18:24] <joern_s> thanks, cimbakahn
[18:25] <cimbakahn> They weren't reading my questions simply for what was written. And when they did answer me i felt like i was being interrogated.
[18:25] <cimbakahn> Like. How dare me for wanting what i want.
[18:27] <Unit193> No, they were asking you questions so they could answer properly.
[18:27] <cimbakahn> And they didn't explain it as well as joern_s so i could understand.
[18:28] <cimbakahn> I gave them all the information just like i did with joern_s just now.
[18:32] <cimbakahn> I originally thought that you could get a LXDE Lubuntu that was in the middle (with less programs installed by default). Something that was not a BARE minimal, and something that was not a full install with a graphical installer.
[18:32] <cimbakahn> It seems like this is not possible.
[18:34] <cimbakahn> Thank you very much joern_s !
[18:35] <phillw> cimbakahn: the non-standard installs do require some skills... that is why they are away from the standard page!
[18:37] <cimbakahn> some skills. That probably means there is no graphical installer to make things easier. You would probably have to be smart enough to do it in another way.
[18:37] <phillw> joern_s: after food, I will be checking if julien's fix for lxqt metapackage has worked
[18:38] <cimbakahn> Thank you phillw !
[18:38] <phillw> cimbakahn: the server installer script is graphic, just no fancy pictures - It asks the same questions and you answer them :)
[18:39] <cimbakahn> So i could burn this to a disk and install it ----> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/lubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <phillw> I'm a fan of alternate installer, it is my very light cross to bear so that lubuntu has a CD sized image for the computers who do not have DVD reader and cannot boot from USB stick.
[18:41] <phillw> cimbakahn: no, that is simply the list of what is on the lubuntu-desktop image.
[18:41] <cimbakahn> I understand now.
[18:42] <phillw> cimbakahn: if you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Full_install.2C_minimal_install_or_core_install.3F you will see the list of what is -desktop (which is what we ship as ISO images) and what you *can* select (core) if you use the minimal install route.
[18:43] <cimbakahn> My computer can't boot from USB. That is why i have to burn OS installs to a disk.
[18:45] <cimbakahn> I am just tired of these operating systems that give me all these programs that i don't want. I have to uninstall alot of programs, and replace them with the ones i want.
[18:45] <phillw> cimbakahn: if it can read a dvd, then you can use the standard desktop image. If it can only read a CD then you will have to use the alternate image. It is not a scary install, just to keep it CD sized all the funky stuff for installing is not there.
[18:47] <cimbakahn> I use DVD-R disks.
[18:48] <phillw> cimbakahn: if you want to start from scratch, and add things on yourself I'd suggest the minimal route with lubuntu core. that will give you a working system that you can log onto and then add whatever applications you want on top of it. If you choose the minimal install (netboot) route, the installer will offer you a full list of what you want to add to it.. lubuntu minimal is on that list.
[18:49] <phillw> But, that installer will not work on WiFi as the WiFi system is added on later if you want.
[18:52] <cimbakahn> I need something that detects my WIFI right away, so that would probably not be for me. Unfortunately.
[18:53] <phillw> yes, do not get caught out.
[18:55] <phillw> you would need ehthernet link to begin and then issue
[18:56] <phillw> apt-get install wireless-tools
[18:56] <phillw> for it to install the WiFi stuff.
[18:58] <cimbakahn> If you choose the minimal install (netboot) route, the installer will offer you a full list of what you want to add to it.. lubuntu minimal is on that list. Would i be able to understand the things on that list? I have been using linux for a year now. ethernet link? I have a wired connection, is this what you mean/
[18:59] <cimbakahn> Is wireless-tools all i would need to install for WIFI?
[19:19] <phillw> cimbakahn: from what I have read, yes. It is a meta-package which will pull in all that is needed
[19:21] <cimbakahn> I think i'll just use this instead to be on the safe side ----> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/15.10/release/lubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:22] <cimbakahn> I am looking at Lubuntu 15.10 videos now.
[19:24] <cimbakahn> You know my collegues and i use Mumble to communicate vocally. Why doesn't more people use Mumble? It would be faster and easier to understand people.
[19:27] <phillw> Mumble!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Feet
[20:07] <cimbakahn> Yes. Happy Feet was a cute movie.
[20:10] <cimbakahn> Yes. Mumble is cross platform. It allows you to speak vocally to other people. I love it. I have my own channel. It is usually in synapticPM.
[21:19] <phillw> wb redwolf
[21:19] <redwolf> o/
[21:20] <redwolf> sorry, my network is being odd
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.212990
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu+1
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[09:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> !info php5 xenial
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[20:08] <enriko> list
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.214341
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-irc
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[13:22] <Zic> sorry to directly ping you but I got no answer yesterday : Unit193, Pici ?
[13:54] <Unit193> Zic: Hi. I'm not actually part of the IRCC, you want hggdh, Pici, Tm_T, or Flannel.
[13:58] <Zic> Unit193: hi, thanks anyway for hl them :)
[15:13] <hggdh> Zic: re-added you
[15:27] <Zic> hggdh: thanks!
[15:27] <hggdh> Zic: welcome
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.215616
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"Unit193",
"Zic",
"hggdh"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-irc"
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-fi
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[11:05] <Kehet> kylläpä jollain on tullut oikein älynväläys
[11:05] <Kehet> paypalin salasananvaihtosivu estää pasteamisen
[11:05] <Kehet> miksi oi miksi
[11:08] <Kehet> ja luonnollisesti max 20 merkkiä
[13:03] <ninnnu> Kehet: Tietoturvastandardit(tm)
[13:04] <ninnnu> https://twitter.com/britishgashelp/status/463619139220021248
[13:07] <Kehet> aivanjoo
[13:08] <Kehet> pelottavaa miten pihalla asioista vastaavat ihmiset on
[13:10] <Mikaela> miten brute-forcetaan pastettamall salasana?
[13:11] <ninnnu> Mikaela: generoit listan jossa on kasa salasanoja ja copypasteet niistä yksi kerrallaan?
[13:11] <ninnnu> Se kai on se teoria miten jonkun tietomurhamiehen mielestä toi bruteforce tapahtuisi
[13:11] <Kehet> nii, palkkaa jonkun kiinalaisen siihen
[13:12] <Mikaela> ei kun ymmärsin väärin, mutta tuohan toimii niin että rajoitetaan kuink a montaa salasanaa saa käyttää
[13:14] <Kehet> jotenkin vaan .. jos osuuspankki tekisi tollasta
[13:14] <Kehet> vaihtaisin pankkia
[13:19] <Maakuth> paypal on kyllä penseä. oli yhden firman asiakkuus mun identiteetillä perustettu. jouduin sitten toimittamaan sinne passitietoja ja muuta vuosia myöhemmin, kun joku siirtoraja ylittyi ja tekivät jonkun laajemman asiakkaantuntemistempun
[13:22] <Maakuth> ja siis tili oli siirretty toisen ihmisen nimiin eikä minulla ollut enää kummempaa yhteyttä kyseiseen firmaan
[14:09] <sivir> samallailla se nykyinen suomalainen pankkisiki joutuu tuntemaan asiakkaansa
[14:09] <sivir> emäntä ei edes ulkomaalaisena saanut aukastua tiliä nordeaan, op:ssa sentään onnistui
[15:51] <gildean> Kehet: et sä mitään kiinalaista tarvi muuta kun ehkä kirjottamaan sulle sopivan skriptin vaikka seleniumiin tms. joka sitten kokeilee automaagisesti niitä passuja, siis jos nyt haluaa jotain noin hölmöä hakkerointitapaa käyttää
[15:51] <gildean> se copy-pasten estäminen ei kuitenkaan estä niitä koneen ohjaamia selaimia mitenkään
[15:52] <ninnnu> gildean: Ihmiset jotka on speksannu noita estoja ei ole kuullutkaan Seleniumista..
[15:52] <ninnnu> tai esim. selaimen ohittamisesta kokonaan ja esim. pythonilla pyyntöjen tuuttaamisesta
[16:01] <Thaurwylth> Tunnusta luodessa ainakin idea on vissiin estää robottien toimintaa?
[16:02] <Thaurwylth> 00:24:56 eebb > Iltaa. Olisiko jollain antaa vinkkia siihen, etta <== Onkos tähän muuten vastauksia? Alkoi jossakin vaiheessa jo semi-kutkuttaa, mitähän tähän väki neuvoksi sanailee.
[16:03] <Thaurwylth> Onkohan tuossa kyse siitä, että pitää osata asentaa GRUB oikeaan osioon vai jostakin muusta?
[16:04] <ninnnu> no ton extended partitonin kuuluukin olla "tyhjä"
[16:05] <ninnnu> se on vain sellane osio jonka sisään voi tuupata N loogista osiota, kun normaalisti voi laittaa vain 4 primääriosiota lätylle
[16:06] <ninnnu> voittava valinta voisi olla bootata joku live-cd ja päristellä grubin palauttelua
[16:07] <ninnnu> tietty jos on ollu tymä ja asentanu W10:n niin omapa on häpeä :P
[16:07] <Thaurwylth> ...?
[16:07] <ninnnu> no toi 00:24 tapaus
[16:07] <ninnnu> kun halusit mielipiteitä
[16:07] <ninnnu> sait mielipiteen
[16:08] <Thaurwylth> Niin siis en vain tajunnut sitä, miksi se piti lopettaa tarpeettomaan ja väsyneeseen vakiokuittiin Windowsista. Se nyt varmaan ihan hyvin riittää, että niille kuittaillaan asiallisista asioista, niitäkin ongelmia kyseisessä järjestelmässä kumminkin on.
[16:10] <Thaurwylth> Mutta siis toisaalta heti alkoi kiinnostaa se, onko Kympissä sitten oikeasti jotenkin hankalampaa saada se ja GRUB elelemään auvoisaa yhteiseloa kuin vanhemmissa.
[16:10] <ninnnu> en mä oikeestaan usko että se on sen vaikeampaa
[16:11] <ninnnu> Mutta me puhutaan käyttiksestä joka ei ole 20 vuodenkaan jälkeen oppinut elämään muiden käyttisten kanssa yhdessä, ja joka pahimmillaan keräilee itseään tunnin kun jonkun peruspäivityksen asennuksen yhteydessä ilmenikin että "hui kauheeta, täällähän on joku muu käyttöjärjestelmä kans o_O"
[16:11] <ninnnu> nimim. boottasin W7:aa kerran oikeasti tunnin kun yks päivitys ei menny sisään koska se ei vain pelaa yhteen GRUBillisen ATK:n kanssa. Onneksi ei ollut kiire
[16:12] <ninnnu> Silloin osasi arvostaa sitä että Linuxeissa boottiaika on suhteellisen vakio riippumatta siitä onko juuri asennettu 0 vai 100 päivitystä
[16:12] <ninnnu> (fsck tietty on asia erikseen)
[16:14] <Thaurwylth> Se on totta, että ainakin silloin tulee ongelmia, jos ei pysty olemaan buutin aikana päätteen ääressä. Pitäisi saada Windows valittua GRUBin valikosta, oletusarvona määräajassa.
[16:15] <Thaurwylth> Hämmästyttävästi ei ole miulla muista ongelmista kokemusta.
[16:15] <ninnnu> Tykkään kans erityisesti W7:n asentimen antamsta virheilmoituksesta jos sitä ei asenna primäärilevyn ekalle osiolle
[16:15] <ninnnu> "Ei käy. Kato lokeista lisätietoja. Ei, en kerro miten lokeja luetaan"
[16:16] <Thaurwylth> Ei liity mitenkään mihinkään, mutta mikä on SATA-maailmassa levyjen järjestyksen käsite?
[16:16] <ninnnu> no SATA-ohjain numeroi ne portit jotenkin, ja BIOSissa voi toisinaan järjestellä ne uudelleen
[16:17] <Thaurwylth> Oho!
[16:17] <ninnnu> mun tapauksessa onnistui se että klikkaili BIOSista lätyt uuteen järjestykseen
[16:17] <Thaurwylth> Aina uutta joka päivä.
[17:12] <gattopadovano> Hyvaa humenta.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.228701
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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"Kehet",
"Maakuth",
"Mikaela",
"Thaurwylth",
"gattopadovano",
"gildean",
"ninnnu",
"sivir"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
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2015-11-22-#ubuntustudio
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[13:16] <Reuds> hello
[13:16] <Reuds> can anyone help me?
[13:17] <zequence> Reuds: Just ask a question, and if no one answers hang around for long enough and someone will :)
[13:17] <Reuds> okaz
[13:18] <Reuds> so my problem is that when i boot the Ubuntu Studio CD, and then i go on "Install Ubuntu Studio"
[13:18] <Reuds> and then just comes "ACPI PCC probe failed" and then comes nothing more
[13:21] <zequence> I googled a bit, and it seems to be related to UEFI and something lacking Linux support
[13:21] <zequence> At the end of this there's a good explanation http://askubuntu.com/questions/584248/boot-error-acpi-pcc-probe-failed
[13:22] <zequence> I'm not seeing anyone not being able to boot though.
[13:23] <zequence> So, cold be your problem not being able to boot is something else
[13:23] <zequence> Do you have a nvidia graphic card, btw?
[13:23] <zequence> Is it a laptop or desktop PC?
[13:24] <Reuds> yes indeed and its a desktop pc
[13:24] <zequence> HEre is someone who is able to boot http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275310
[13:25] <zequence> But, perhaps you will have problems with 15.10, but not with 14.04
[13:25] <zequence> Sorry, someone who is not able to boot
[13:25] <Reuds> yeah i think i have ubuntu studios 14.04.3
[13:25] <zequence> Oh. Ok. Well, try 15.10 then?
[13:26] <Reuds> maybe but first i try this
[13:26] <Reuds> 2 down vote I [Solved] the problem by changing the motherboard settings. For my motherboard (access this at boot, not through Ubuntu) I went to Advanced > System Agent > Graphics > iPGU Multi-Monitor and set it to "enable." I left all of the other system agent graphics settings on auto. After that the boot and ACPI problems (including a shutdown hang, crashes, freezes, monitor shutdown) stopped. Every motherboard vendor has its
[13:26] <Reuds> luckily this guy has the same motherboard as i have so I'll try his tip
[13:26] <zequence> Oh, nice
[13:27] <Reuds> and if it doesn't work i'll come back and try the next thing
[13:28] <Reuds> the thing is i even havent installed Ubuntu on this Pc. i have made 2 Partitions. one for Windows and one for Ubuntu. ._.
[13:28] <zequence> Well, I can probably not help more in any case. And this should not be specific to Ubuntu Studio at all, so I would suggest also to try other channels, or forums if you continue to have problems.
[13:28] <Reuds> okay. But thanks for the help :)
[13:28] <zequence> Changing motherboard settings is not really related to installations (unless you change boot settings)
[13:29] <zequence> So, should work
[13:29] <Reuds> Okay
[13:29] <Reuds> yeah the problem is that it doesnt boot right so i dont even have the chance to install it soooo. I give it a trz
[13:29] <Reuds> *try
[13:54] <Reuds> so I'm back and changing this setting thing on the Motherboard didn't change anything
[13:57] <Reuds> I have no idea what to do. Only trying to use the 15.1 version
[14:05] <NoteOn> hi
[14:05] <Reuds> hi
[14:06] <NoteOn> not good english sorrry
[14:06] <NoteOn> not same problem but I have 14 works. 15 nor work.
[14:06] <NoteOn> so my way is usb persistence.. to test
[14:06] <NoteOn> its easy to find where is..
[14:07] <NoteOn> in my case 15.x not sound to jack last out.. even jack shows ok.
[14:07] <NoteOn> well, my main style is persistence. 8GB or 16GB usb boot.
[14:08] <NoteOn> 2 or 3 pc's. and then USB 4 or 5. and test different setup..
[14:08] <NoteOn> also you can have 2 or more setup in same USB. just backup diff file and set it at boot line.
[14:08] <NoteOn> or just rename each time. at boot.
[14:09] <NoteOn> ubuntsu persistence at google get more info..
[14:11] <Reuds> okay
[14:11] <NoteOn> file base is must.. not partation..
[14:11] <NoteOn> in file base, you can do backup one file for all setup. even if you use windows.
[14:12] <NoteOn> in windows set usb FAT32 1 partation.. then file ... maybe in 15.x casper-rw etc.
[14:12] <NoteOn> livecd mode is not good for test.. it can't keep setup. but persistence is like normal install.. you get changed after re-boot
[14:13] <NoteOn> if you test more and more ... file size is 1GB is ok. not good for full user..
[14:13] <NoteOn> full use. but in test, 1GB is ok. easy to backup
[14:13] <NoteOn> in my case, test and test then I keep 10 backup etc..
[14:14] <NoteOn> and copy USB to USB. then run diffrent PC ...
[14:14] <NoteOn> its save test time.
[14:15] <NoteOn> in my case, one PC at sound board 14.x is ok. 15.x is not good. driver working.. but some reason final sound is not out
[14:25] <Reuds> okay
[14:47] <studio-user694Pa> Quit
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.234767
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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"NoteOn",
"Reuds",
"studio-user694Pa",
"zequence"
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio"
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-news
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[01:28] <pleia2> o/
[01:30] <tsimonq2> hello pleia2!
[01:30] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I have been feeling kinda sick, so I didn't do as much summaries as last time, but I knocked some out
[01:31] <pleia2> thanks for pitching in :)
[01:32] <pleia2> I'll see how much progress is made in the next 15 hours or so, and will work on them later as needed
[01:32] <tsimonq2> pleia2: the 5 hour nap I took about an hour ago had adverse effects, so I might go back to sleep, but if I feel better I will certainly pitch in more
[01:36] <pleia2> tsimonq2: no fun, feel better!
[01:39] <tsimonq2> thanks! :D
[19:24] <pleia2> just going to bullet point the canonical news articles, need 2 summaries for ubuntu phone and 7 for blogosphere
[20:48] <ahoneybun> dual monitors make it so much easier to write summaries :)
[20:50] <ahoneybun> pleia2: ubuntu phone ones are done
[21:05] <pleia2> ahoneybun: yay, thanks :)
[21:05] <pleia2> dual monitors++
[21:49] <ahoneybun> 5 more blogosphere
[22:06] <ahoneybun> 3 more
[23:27] <pleia2> \o/
[23:28] * tsimonq2 is still sick, so he will wait to contribute until next week
[23:28] <pleia2> tsimonq2: no problem, get well soon
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.237333
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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"ahoneybun",
"pleia2",
"tsimonq2"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-news"
}
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-gr
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[16:47] <arxariosubunista> hey παίδες!
[19:09] <badclue> hi need help with error im getting constantly while trying to install a software
[19:09] <badclue> could i chat in english if you dont mind
[19:10] <badclue> not just with 1 but all
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.240239
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"arxariosubunista",
"badclue"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/22/%23ubuntu-gr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-gr"
}
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-dk
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[07:40] <jw4000> er det muligt at få en bruger på forummet?, jeg får aldrig en aktiverings mail...
[10:40] <jw4000> asd
[12:39] <jw4000> er der nogen på kanalen nu?
[12:47] <jw4000> er jeres forum nede?
[12:47] <jw4000> jeg får 504 Gateway Time-out
[12:48] <Futte> også her
[12:49] <Futte> Der er nok kommet sne i serveren. :-)
[12:50] <jw4000> ja
[12:51] <jw4000> futte kan du måske hjælpe mig med noget?
[12:52] <Futte> måske, jeg er helt så stiv til det.
[12:53] <jw4000> jeg kan ikke få dansk sprog til at virke på en ubuntu server 14.04 LTS
[12:54] <jw4000> og min locale ser sådan her ud:
[12:54] <Futte> kender ikke så meget til server versionen. Kan du ikke gå ind i indstillinger og så vælge sprog.
[12:54] <jw4000> LANG=da_DK.UTF-8
[12:54] <jw4000> LANGUAGE=da_DK:da
[12:54] <jw4000> LC_CTYPE=UTF-8
[12:54] <jw4000> LC_NUMERIC="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:54] <jw4000> LC_TIME="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:54] <jw4000> LC_COLLATE="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_MONETARY="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_MESSAGES="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_PAPER="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_NAME="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_ADDRESS="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_TELEPHONE="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_MEASUREMENT="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_IDENTIFICATION="da_DK.UTF-8"
[12:55] <jw4000> LC_ALL=
[12:55] <jw4000> jeg har ikke nogen gui : (
[12:55] <Futte> desvære jeg kan ikke hjælpe dig. sorry
[13:33] <jw4000> np
[13:37] <jw4000> er der nogen der kan aktivere min account på forummet? jw4000 jeg får aldrig en aktiverings mail
[14:01] <jw4000> ...
[14:06] <jw4000> jeres aktiverings mail system virker ikke med gmails
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.245173
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
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"authors": [
"Futte",
"jw4000"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/22/%23ubuntu-dk.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-dk"
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-hr
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[09:08] <SilverSpace> dan
[14:05] <calmpitbull> ima neki dobar tutorial kako staviti ubuntu na minix neo x5 mini
[15:13] <CrazyLemon> stavio bi ubuntu na 1gb rama?
[15:19] <calmpitbull> stavil bi gore server
[15:21] <calmpitbull> trazim po netu i ima ljudi koji imaju gore linux al nitko ne gocori kako je to napravop
[21:31] <Mmike> paxos u plpgsqlu: https://github.com/citusdata/pg_paxos/blob/master/sql/pg_paxos.sql
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.246574
| 2015-11-22T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"CrazyLemon",
"Mmike",
"SilverSpace",
"calmpitbull"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/22/%23ubuntu-hr.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-hr"
}
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-discuss
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[00:02] <daftykins> weekend folks be crazy! :D
[00:03] <OerHeks> yeah, it must be getting colder
[00:03] <OerHeks> just seen that james bond movie ..
[00:42] <daftykins> OerHeks: what did you make of it?
[00:42] <OerHeks> of that bond movie ?
[00:42] <OerHeks> ... mwah.. it is not the bond i used to know when i was a kid, say 40 years ago
[00:43] <OerHeks> the story/plot was enough for a 55 minute soap
[00:43] <OerHeks> nice effects though.. all i miss was the music.
[00:44] <OerHeks> all bond movies were full of music, this one was 'dead'
[00:47] <daftykins> :(
[00:52] <daftykins> mmm, i don't really do the generic action films
[00:56] <OerHeks> well, my neighbour is bond fan, and a few months back, someone dumped his dvd collection when he moved out ( and other stuff), and got him the 7 first movies.
[00:56] <OerHeks> the other 200 dvd's i kept myself
[00:56] <OerHeks> :-D
[00:57] <OerHeks> still need a dvd player, else i need to put them on usb
[00:58] <daftykins> :O
[00:58] <daftykins> that's a lot of discs
[01:01] <OerHeks> i always take the curtainrails from those piles, when a newcomer arrives, i am the friendly neighbour that helped with expensive rails for free ( when i leave, i have to remove them too and fill the holes, crazy )
[01:02] <OerHeks> people trow away so much, we are filthy rich but do not know it.
[01:02] <OerHeks> pc's ..
[01:02] <daftykins> very true
[01:03] <daftykins> certainly when someone comes in having trouble with a rubbish netbook...
[01:04] <OerHeks> oh got one of those, not really worth to run anymore, single core, gma 450 poulsbo ..
[01:05] <daftykins> yeah, they were rubbish when new :D
[01:05] <daftykins> was all this stuff in a skip, then?
[01:05] <daftykins> not sure if that word translates well
[01:07] <OerHeks> 207 dvd's? yes
[01:07] <OerHeks> every month someone moves, 100 appartments in one building.
[01:08] <daftykins> ah har
[01:08] <daftykins> big high-rise tower thing?
[01:09] <OerHeks> no, l shape, one side 3 floors, and my site is 6 floors high, i live top floor
[01:10] <OerHeks> pretty view, and from the frontdoor i can see Schiphol airport
[01:11] <daftykins> ooh nice!
[01:11] <daftykins> i don't suppose you have any images of said view?
[01:12] <OerHeks> https://goo.gl/maps/qt9WFYhhyT22
[01:15] <OerHeks> no, no picture of schiphol, got one from early spring, say april https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/bijnaGroen.JPG
[01:17] <OerHeks> only when the wind comes from the east, i can hear the planes starting and landing.. but still acceptable.
[01:19] <OerHeks> hehe Drabber loves flowers https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6885560/DrabberRuiktBloemetjes2014.JPG
[01:20] <daftykins> sorry just nipped downstairs to check on the cat :D
[01:21] <daftykins> ooh that's a nice bright snap :)
[01:21] <daftykins> i like all the little figures by the window
[01:21] <OerHeks> copper things, i used to collect them a lot.
[01:21] <OerHeks> or cupper, not sure
[01:24] <daftykins> copper yep for the shiny metal, mmm
[02:27] <pauljw> gnite all
[03:03] <daftykins> phew, i felt positively surrounded by them all just before
[03:15] <Bashing-om> daftykins: You wield the sword of truth so well.
[03:15] <daftykins> haha, i'm being mistaken for grumpy!
[03:17] <Bashing-om> some people do not take the cut well :))
[03:27] <daftykins> TJ-: aww you've been missing all the fun!
[03:27] <daftykins> have you found a time the crazies go away? :P
[03:27] <TJ-> morning :)
[03:28] <TJ-> Have you been stirring it up?
[03:30] <daftykins> that Victoria has been comment on my demeanour in front of the riff raff!
[03:30] <daftykins> *commenting
[05:44] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO is writing a book
[05:44] <OerHeks> or you are doing his schoolwork
[05:45] <TJ-> his?
[05:45] <TJ-> I thought it was a her from some gender based comments 'it' made a few daya ago
[05:46] <OerHeks> my solution was /etc/network/if-post-down.d/ >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/519920/how-to-run-an-up-script-using-network-manager-openvpn
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:22] <TJ-> breakie time, mmm
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: found your duocam issue yet?
[06:23] <TJ-> Getting closer yes
[06:23] <TJ-> It turns out the reason UFocus isn't enabled is that the HTC Camera code makes calls to another, separate, HTC CustomiziationManager class from a separate package which is part of the 'Sense' framework. I should be able to reverse it sufficiently to create alternate placibo classes that give the answers the Camera code expects to hear
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> ic
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> ive been testing out unity8/mir on xenial yesterday
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> pretty fun :p
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> install/logout/choose mir/8 from login/use
[06:54] <TJ-> I cannot believe how much time that cimbakahn has wasted just making a decision!
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> pffft
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> its not ubuntu's website thats confusing, but he confuses himself lol
[06:55] <TJ-> Entered the channel 1 hour 10 minutes ago... amazing
[06:57] <TJ-> no wonder the lubuntu channel played dead when he was in there :)
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i wish they would mention minimal is more expert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Full_install.2C_minimal_install_or_core_install.3F
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> looool
[06:57] <TJ-> Well, it sounds like thats what this user wants, let him have it
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> alot of chans are really dead for sure :p
[06:57] <TJ-> sounds like OCD/micro-manager type
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> hahaha 15.04 minmal :p and let him encounter alot of issues
[06:58] <TJ-> OH GAWD, I need a stiff drink else I'll explode
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> 40mb minimal lol
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> that would be a pain :p
[07:03] <TJ-> a few minutes until dawn so I'm going to take the dogs out
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> ok cheers TJ-
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> run them tired :p
[07:07] <TJ-> that's the plan, there's frost on the ground so shouldn't be too muddy
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> yeah getting colder here also
[09:58] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:59] <TJ-> hallooo
[09:59] <lordievader> Hey TJ-, how are you doing?
[10:00] <lordievader> Gotten your Android fixed?
[10:01] <TJ-> which bit was broken that you're thinking about? :S
[10:01] <lordievader> Yesterday you said: 21-10:48 < TJ-> fighting android decompiliation to hack a fix :)
[10:01] <TJ-> The M8 is fine with CM12.1 on now. What I'm tackling is enabling UFocus support
[10:02] <TJ-> yeah, was decompiling the HTC Camera apk to figure out what is missing for getting the application to use the 2nd camera to capture a depth map, so the UFocus will work
[10:03] <lordievader> That is all uncharted territory for me.
[10:03] * lordievader is one of those persons who doesn't have a smart phone
[10:05] <TJ-> an apk is basically a Java JAR archive, but with all the Java class files compiled into a single 'classes.dex' Dalvik VM bytecode file, so had to do dex2jar and then decompile the jar (Java class files)
[10:07] <lordievader> I see, interesting.
[10:08] <TJ-> some methods in some class files weren't able to be decompiled, and they happened to be the ones I needed to see! Sorted it eventually, with an online service using the same libraries I was using, so I must have been doing something not quite the same
[10:10] <lordievader> Why weren't those able to be decompiled? Some missing dependency?
[10:11] <TJ-> no, something in the bytecode from the dex2jar output as far as I can tell. I used http://www.decompileandroid.com and that worked. nice little project, that, too
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> good sunday to all
[10:18] <lordievader> https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-coders-worst-nightmare/answer/Mick-Stute?srid=RBKZ&share=1
[10:18] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader and cfhowlett
[10:19] <cfhowlett> hideeho lotuspsychje
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: too complicated for a sundaymorning :p
[10:26] <lordievader> It ain't that hard is it? It comes down to the ex-grad student poisoning the compiler that if it saw its own project it would rewrite the source and compile that instead.
[10:28] <TJ-> I'm amazed this so-called consultant didn't inspect the executable code; that would always be my first step when something 'strange' is happening :D
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[13:07] <EriC^^> TJ-: i'm pretty sure there's a bug involving kernels and grub or so, wondering about it
[13:07] <EriC^^> this is my grub kernel line in /etc/default/grub
[13:07] <EriC^^> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet crashkernel=384M-:128M crashkernel=384M-:128M crashkernel=384M-:128M crashkernel=384M-:128M crashkernel=384M-:128M"
[13:07] <EriC^^> keeps adding that same parameter i guess
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> ive recently made a 15.10 iso then got error on boot, and had to press TAB and manual enter liveinstall to be able to boo the usb
[13:07] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> this related?
[13:08] <TJ-> EriC^^: oh, in the linux-image postinst script?
[13:08] <EriC^^> TJ-: i guess so
[13:09] <TJ-> EriC^^: which release is that?
[13:09] <EriC^^> 14.04
[13:10] <TJ-> EriC^^: oh, strange! didn't think 14.04 used the crashkernel setting. Which kernel version is latest? one of the HWE varieties?
[13:10] <EriC^^> there's this line in /etc/default/grub.d/kexec-tools.cfg
[13:10] <EriC^^> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="$GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT crashkernel=384M-:128M"
[13:11] <EriC^^> not sure if it's related
[13:11] <TJ-> oh, kexec-tools
[13:11] <EriC^^> looks like it takes the last one and adds that?
[13:15] <TJ-> EriC^^: right, it's doing a simple concatenation every time grub-mkconfig is called by update-grub
[13:16] <TJ-> bug 1318111
[13:16] <EriC^^> hmm i tried to update-grub it's still not adding it
[13:17] <EriC^^> oh ok, must be when i grub-install
[13:17] <TJ-> no, the code in grub-mkconfig calls it
[13:17] <TJ-> for x in ${sysconfdir}/default/grub.d/*.cfg ; do
[13:17] <EriC^^> it's not adding it though
[13:17] <EriC^^> yeah but it doesn't touch /etc/default/grub though right? just makes grub.cfg?
[13:18] <TJ-> EriC^^: it 'sources' /etc/default/grub and /etc/default/grub.d/*
[13:18] <EriC^^> odd it's still just 5, i tried to grub-install
[13:18] <EriC^^> maybe it was fixed or something
[13:18] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah, the line is being added to /etc/default/grub
[13:19] <TJ-> It shouldn't be added to /etc/default/grub
[13:19] <EriC^^> let me try reinstalling kexec-tools
[13:20] <EriC^^> nope still just 5
[13:20] <TJ-> update-grub sources /etc/default/grub and then /etc/default/grub.d/* so anything in the later will be added/replace to anything in the former
[13:20] <TJ-> EriC^^: Try "bash -x /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig" to see what the script does
[13:21] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah, but added to grub.cfg , not /etc/default/grub right?
[13:21] <EriC^^> how's it getting added to /etc/default/grub though
[13:21] <TJ-> EriC^^: whatever grub-mkconfig generates is redirected to /boot/grub/grub.cfg by update-grub script
[13:21] <TJ-> EriC^^: not from those scripts
[13:22] <EriC^^> yeah, let me try to reinstall grub package
[13:22] <EriC^^> nope
[13:24] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok i found it
[13:24] <EriC^^> when i installed grub-efi-amd64 it added a 6th one
[13:24] <EriC^^> while installing the package it said
[13:24] <EriC^^> Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version
[13:24] <EriC^^> then /etc/default/grub had an extra kernel parameter
[13:28] <EriC^^> TJ-: oh i see, so /etc/default/grub.d is used to generate changes in /etc/default/grub
[13:29] <EriC^^> and update-grub triggers just /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d to make grub.cfg as usual
[13:30] <TJ-> EriC^^: no, it shouldn't, unless the content of yours is different to mine
[13:30] <EriC^^> shouldn't what?
[13:31] <TJ-> shouldn't change /etc/default/grub
[13:31] <TJ-> /etc/default/grub.d/kexec-tools.cfg should just have:
[13:31] <EriC^^> it makes sense, there's /etc/grub.d to build grub.cfg
[13:31] <TJ-> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="$GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT crashkernel=384M-:128M"
[13:31] <EriC^^> and /etc/default/grub.d to build /etc/default/grub
[13:31] <TJ-> No, it doesn't build it, both files are sourced into the grub-mkconfig environment
[13:31] <TJ-> I've posted a fix to that bug report, anyhow
[13:33] <EriC^^> i modified the kexec-tools.cfg and while installing it asks whether to merge with /etc/default/grub or what
[13:33] <TJ-> can you pastebin that, because there's no such questions in the grub-mkconfig script
[13:34] <EriC^^> it's before grub-mkconfig
[13:34] <EriC^^> Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version
[13:34] <EriC^^> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[13:34] <EriC^^> Installation finished. No error reported.
[13:34] <EriC^^> Generating grub configuration file ...
[13:34] <EriC^^> then it's calling grub-mkconfig
[13:35] <TJ-> That's the package post-inst script then, not from calling update-grub
[13:35] <TJ-> update-grub calls grub-mkconfig which does: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13444873/
[13:37] <EriC^^> this is in the .postinst
[13:37] <EriC^^> for x in /etc/default/grub /etc/default/grub.d/*.cfg; do
[13:37] <EriC^^> if [ -e "$x" ]; then
[13:37] <EriC^^> . "$x"
[13:37] <TJ-> right, same thing, sourcing the content
[13:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:38] <TJ-> incorporates it into the script environment, then the functions later work from the various variables they find
[13:38] <EriC^^> ah there's something about merging
[13:38] <EriC^^> merge_debconf_into_conf "$tmp_default_grub" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX grub2/linux_cmdline
[13:40] <TJ-> right, that's debconf stuff
[13:41] <TJ-> which is part of the dpkg --configure or dpkg-reconfigure code
[13:41] <EriC^^> it's in the postinst
[13:41] <EriC^^> so what was the fix? is it something to modify in kexec-tools.cfg?
[13:46] <TJ-> Yes, I added it as a comment to that bug
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[19:05] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[20:23] <pauljw> hi lotuspsychje
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> hey pauljw
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> how are you mate
[20:24] <pauljw> doing well, you?
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> fine tnx
[20:25] <ioria> hi lotuspsychje ... it's all ok chez toi ? listening weird things ....
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> weird things ioria ?
[20:25] <ioria> in bruxelles ......
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> ahhh
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> im in the flemish part of belgium ioria
[20:26] <ioria> ok.....
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> ioria: but lucky for you im tri-lingual :p
[20:26] <ioria> ^_^
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[20:33] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: ive been playing with unity8/mir on xenial
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: after install/logout/login to unity8 and use
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: looks like the ubuntu touch phone enlarged :p
[20:42] <pauljw> lotuspsychje: are touch capabilities incorporated for PC/Laptop installs
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: looks like a unity-style ubuntu touch enlarged
[20:43] <pauljw> do you like it?
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: unity8 will be on 16.10 so it will change alot
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: sure its fun
[20:44] <pauljw> sure
[20:44] <pauljw> :)
[21:34] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[22:19] <daftykins> hey everyone o/
[22:19] <OerHeks> hi daftykins
[22:22] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Is back in the house. Attention on deck .. we have relief .
[22:22] <daftykins> hahaha
[22:22] <daftykins> i've just been out doing some paid work until now as it goes, so i'm quite tired from my exploits
[22:23] <daftykins> of all things, today i had the displeasure of rearranging someone's music collection in iTunes for Windows... >_<
[22:23] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Oh, wow, do you pick the places to relax . :)
[22:23] <daftykins> and earlier this evening, an AVG Internet Security product had stopped letting an elderly lady's PC from connecting to wireless networks due to the subscription having run out... !
[22:23] <daftykins> lol
[22:24] <daftykins> now i must throw some food in the oven :D
[22:24] <daftykins> are we all well?
[22:25] <OerHeks> i am going to give the dogs their last walk for tonight, brb
[22:25] <Bashing-om> daftykins: I wound up with a fairly descent box because of an AVG update ( user chose driver option , could not even boot a liveDVD ) .
[22:26] <Bashing-om> daftykins: I am still trying to convince the_count that I do not know what I am doing .
[22:27] <daftykins> lol
[22:28] <daftykins> have you been tempted to tell him to clean install?
[22:28] <daftykins> i forget the original issue, something touchpad related?
[22:37] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yeah .. that clean install 'bout 2 weeks past . I do not mind spending the time learning where the translations happen between the hardware and the kernel. Always open to learning - particularly so at other's expense .
[22:38] <daftykins> :D
[22:39] <daftykins> Bashing-om: forgive me if this is something you had already done, but i remember that guy coming in with a synaptic driver that needed changing... it was the one i wrote up on my site, not sure if it'd apply to the_count? http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301
[22:42] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Yeah, you have the right of it .. touchpad driver issue ( maybe ?) .. look'n on your blog .
[22:44] <Bashing-om> daftykins: I had seen that option in bug reports, As I am shooting in the dark, sure - worth a shot .
[22:46] <daftykins> i remember the one i linked was the touchpad worked, but the buttons beside it didn't... so it could be quite different
[23:43] <pauljw> time for dinner... bbl.
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[00:00] <freakyy> i wonder if i should just put the boot partition on the ssd
[00:00] <qu> my /etc/hosts seems useless now. i set `192.168.1.123 www.abc.com` in `hosts`, but when i `ping www.abc.com`, returns `PING kevin.com.router (120.192.83.162) 56(84) bytes of data.` Why? (lubuntu 15.10)
[00:00] <int-main> the_count: just press F12
[00:00] <qu> i tried lots of times, any not exists domain names (but a set in /etc/hosts) are return `120.192.83.192` when ping.
[00:00] <Acerio> freakyy: However, minimal builds do not come with a desktop environment, so you will need to install one yourself, which is not hard. My favorite environment is GNOME 3.18, but Ubuntu default is Unity.
[00:00] <freakyy> Acerio: i dont want that
[00:00] <Acerio> freakyy: Why not?
[00:00] <the_count> dersand: So, you have somebody else's phone? And you want to use their phone service for yourself?
[00:00] <freakyy> its still too big
[00:00] <Acerio> freakyy: What is the size of your SSD?
[00:00] <freakyy> ill find a solution
[00:00] <the_count> int-main: There is no reason then why that same thing wouldn't work for ubuntu
[00:01] <dersand> the_count, it's my own. But i guess nobody will believe me?
[00:01] <kakashiAL> hi
[00:01] <int-main> the_count: exactly why I am disturbed
[00:01] <the_count> dersand: Welll, it makes people wonder, start searching for an ssh server app on the play store then.
[00:01] <kakashiAL> is it possible to make your ubuntu pc, where you use wlan to go to the internet, offer a hotspot
[00:02] <the_count> int-main: Well...
[00:02] <kakashiAL> I mean use the same pc and to browse the internet and offer a hotpot
[00:02] <bprompt> int-main: ok... can you try, with the f12 light orange, boot to windows, see if it turns to white while in windows
[00:03] <dersand> the_count Since i can't run anything, init or set any values i guess it needs to be "plug and play". That's a bit much to ask for huh?
[00:03] <the_count> int-main: I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[00:03] <kakashiAL> anyone?
[00:03] <int-main> the_count: I meant it should but it isn't. That confuses me.
[00:04] <Na3iL> kakashiAL, what was your question? cause I didn't get it!
[00:04] <int-main> bprompt: I can assure you, it does work properly on Windows. I am online via windows 10 currently
[00:04] <the_count> kakashiAL: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html
[00:04] <kakashiAL> I am using wlan to go the internet Na3iL :)
[00:04] <Acerio_> Hey sorry, I am back. freakyy if you said something, I may have missed it. So please restate the reply.
[00:04] <kakashiAL> but I want to offer a hotspot
[00:04] <Na3iL> You mean wlan0 kakashiAL
[00:04] <kakashiAL> and be able to do both
[00:04] <kakashiAL> use my wlan and offer a hotspot
[00:05] <Acerio_> My PC froze :P And my old IRC session is still active, which is weird.
[00:05] <the_count> int-man: What drivers did you find that were supposed to work
[00:05] <kakashiAL> the_count: I am using xfce
[00:05] <bprompt> int-main: the " I have RT3290 adapter. My Wifi says disabled by hardware switch." makes me suspicious that is software, but yes, the f12 light could be orange by lack of loaded drivers, what wifi nic do you have again? broadcom? atheros? else?
[00:05] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: Still around?
[00:06] <Na3iL> Yep VictoriaXOXO
[00:06] <int-main> bprompt: Ralink
[00:06] <kakashiAL> so, anyone?:)
[00:06] <the_count> kakashiAL: Maybe check with those who make xfice then
[00:07] <Acerio_> What is the timeout time for IRC sessions? Waiting for my last session to timeout, so I can change my nick.
[00:07] <bprompt> hmm
[00:07] <the_count> int-main: Try ' rfkill unblock all '
[00:08] <kakashiAL> the_count: there is none
[00:08] <int-main> the_count: as I said, it works when its soft blocked. Mine is hard blocked
[00:08] <the_count> int-main: Try [Fn] + [Ctrl] + [F12]
[00:09] <Apteryx> Is there any way I can see any process that gets run after I login? I think some process is overriding some definitions I put in my .profile.
[00:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: I see several issues with touchpads have been resolved "upstream"; Have you tried the latest kernel that was installed this round ?
[00:09] <the_count> kakashiAL: #xfce
[00:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: not sure exactly what you mean.
[00:10] <Apteryx> I think I've found a bug where any Xinput configuration gets overridden shortly after login in.
[00:10] <int-main> the_count: I'll have to make a bootable USB but I'll try it. Did you find something?
[00:10] <the_count> int-main: I'll get you the link in a sec
[00:11] <Apteryx> This because my Xorg input device config stopped working, and after experimenting with putting xinput set-button-map in my .profile, this also fails.
[00:11] <the_count> int-main: http://askubuntu.com/questions/528316/wifi-is-diasbled-by-hardware-switch-in-ubuntu-14-04-32-bit-on-hp-430-laptop
[00:11] <Apteryx> But manually sourcing the .profile file after the system is on does the trick.
[00:11] <Apteryx> And I know for sure that .profile is run while Ubuntu's booting.
[00:12] <AlexQ> kakashiAL: Propably possible, but you would need to have two WLAN interfaces I think.
[00:12] <int-main> the_count: let me try. Will report soon
[00:12] <kakashiAL> AlexQ: so you cant go to the internet and have a hotspot with the same wlan interface?
[00:13] * Acerio is AFK
[00:13] <AlexQ> kakashiAL: I am not sure there are any WLAN interfaces that allow that.
[00:13] <Acerio> whoops pretty sure i broke a rule there. sorry!
[00:14] <AlexQ> kakashiAL: But what is your use case? What are you trying to achieve?
[00:14] <kakashiAL> I have wlan, my smartphone is not able to get the waln (its 5hrz vs 3hrz)
[00:14] <OerHeks> kakashiAL, no you can't.
[00:15] <kakashiAL> OerHeks: hmm...okay
[00:15] <OerHeks> and not all wifi adapters can, under linux, it is a driver issue then.
[00:15] <OerHeks> * do hotspot
[00:16] <kakashiAL> OerHeks: can we try it?
[00:17] <AlexQ> kakashiAL: You could try with some USB WiFi dongles, if you have some laying around.
[00:17] <kakashiAL> nope :(
[00:17] <kakashiAL> I just have a laptop with a wlan
[00:17] <OerHeks> kakashiAL, sure, connect to internet via cable, and setup wifi as ad-hoc/hotspot network in networkmanager
[00:18] <kakashiAL> my cable is too short, my router is not in my room :/
[00:18] <AlexQ> kakashiAL: And if you aren't able to access the Internet via cable, maybe it is somehow possible to share internet connection from laptop to smartphone via Bluetooth.
[00:19] <AlexQ> kakashiAL: It used to be done the other way around for sure.
[00:21] <AlexQ> kakashiAL: Aren't you able to switch the router into hybrid mode (2.4GHz + 5GHz) BTW.? I think almost all of them allow that.
[00:21] <Avocado_> Found a screenshot tool, works neat.
[00:21] <Avocado_> https://imgur.com/dPBjSNX
[00:21] <Avocado_> alt+shift+2
[00:21] <Avocado_> auto uploads and copies to clipboard
[00:21] <Avocado_> If anyones interested, its called screencloud
[00:21] <marus> if i run ubuntu as a desktop, it's a good practice to use iptables?
[00:22] <int-main> the_count: Didn't work
[00:23] <noah> int-main: I'm back! Got anything on that networking issue?
[00:23] <Na3iL> indeed marus
[00:24] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does anyone in here know how to close Firefox (or any browser) when the VPN connection fails?
[00:25] <marus> Na3iL: does the firewall run by default?
[00:25] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, xkill via the terminal, forces to quit the app you want to quit..
[00:25] <noah> Open a gnome-terminal, type 'pkill firefox'. Please note that this does NOT clean up memory, etc...
[00:26] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: noah: I meant automatically. XD
[00:26] <Na3iL> Nope, marus it is disabled by default
[00:27] <noah> I don't know how to automate it. :( A Shell Script?
[00:27] <Na3iL> Cause Ubuntu Desktop does not need to a firewall to be safe on the Internet, since by default Ubuntu does not open ports that can introduce security issues.
[00:28] <Na3iL> yep noah and place it in the startup applications
[00:28] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: noah: No idea how to automate it?
[00:28] <Na3iL> VictoriaXOXO, if you want it automatically, then you should knows the crontab jobs
[00:28] <VictoriaXOXO> Na3iL: crontab jobs... Hmm...
[00:29] <Na3iL> Or more easily using shell scripting
[00:30] <noah> A crontab might do the trick. Try 'man crontab'
[00:32] <Avocado_> Syria secretly sentenced free software developer and Firefox contributor Bassel Khartabil to death (boingboing.net)
[00:32] <Avocado_> NOOO!!
[00:32] <marus> Na3iL: so it's not running by default, but i have to run and make rules also on my laptop?
[00:33] <int-main> noah: I tried Ctrl + Fn + F12 and rfkill unblock all
[00:33] <int-main> No help
[00:34] <Na3iL> Yep marus
[00:35] <Na3iL> if you are not familiar with it, you can use the GUI version of firewall → gufw
[00:35] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Does anyone in here know how to close Firefox (or any browser) (automatically) when the VPN connection fails?
[00:39] <OerHeks> VictoriaXOXO, you want to close firefox on the vpn, when your connection fails?
[00:39] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: No, I want Firefox to shut down (like, instantly) as soon as the VPN disconnects. :P
[00:40] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: So I don't accidently surf more with regular ISP.
[00:40] <OerHeks> oke, a clue: /etc/network/if-post-down.d/ >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/519920/how-to-run-an-up-script-using-network-manager-openvpn
[00:40] <OerHeks> pkill firefox
[00:41] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: Saving everything and will look at it within a few minutes. Thanks. :)
[00:43] <dahui> hi all i installed scrapy with pip, but it is installed on /usr/local/bin/scrapy ... how do i make it go to /usr/bin/scrapy??
[00:43] <dahui> with link or a copy?
[00:43] <daftykins> symlink it
[00:43] <daftykins> sounds like you installed something without a package
[00:45] <Avocado_> hey guys, I can't access my HDD that I use to store files/backup
[00:45] <Avocado_> It says "unable to access "backup""
[00:45] <Avocado_> error mounting /dev/sdb2 at blablbla
[00:45] <Na3iL> You need to export it daftykins
[00:45] <Avocado_> exited with no-zero exit status 12: failed to read last sector
[00:45] <daftykins> Na3iL: i think you have the wrong nick
[00:45] <Avocado_> someone said it might be fast boot from windows?
[00:46] <Avocado_> The device /dev/sdb2 doesn seem to have a valid ntfs
[00:46] <Na3iL> Ah! sorry daftykins x)
[00:46] * Na3iL is sleeping on the keyboard :P
[00:46] <daftykins> Avocado_: mmm not for a storage only drive, no harm in booting back in and running chkdsk on it though - have you checked SMART data in case it's failing? assuming it's mechanical
[00:47] <noah> Reboot into Windows twice, run chkdsk on it. You must reboot TWICE.
[00:47] <Avocado_> daftykins, I can reach it from windows
[00:47] <Avocado_> ok
[00:47] <Avocado_> Will try
[00:48] <daftykins> noah: what makes you think that? :)
[00:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: So.. Have you found anything which might be good...?
[00:49] <daftykins> buying another laptop? :)
[00:49] <noah> Read it from some man page. Apparently Windows checks the disks and does somthing to them. Really, I have no idea what it does, it just works for me ;)
[00:49] <daftykins> noah: ah, maybe for an OS drive, don't expect so much for a sole storage disk
[00:49] <noah> I would still try...
[00:50] <noah> It fixed my storage drive too when I rebooted.
[00:50] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Synaptics diagnostic info from fresh Xubuntu Wily installation, where smooth scrolling works correctly: xmodmap xinput evtest xev.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13428392/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/13428396/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/13428402/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/13428409/
[00:50] <AlexQ>
[00:53] <Avocado_> Tried doing the chkdsk
[00:53] <Avocado_> no errors found
[00:53] <VictoriaXOXO> OerHeks: I'm afraid that is too hard for me. :/
[00:53] <Avocado_> I can reach it from windows, but not from ubuntu
[00:53] <Avocado_> Also the disk type is "Dynamic" not "basic"
[00:53] <Avocado_> not sure if that has something to do with it?
[00:53] <noah> That is wierd...
[00:54] <Avocado_> https://imgur.com/zyDucM3
[00:54] <Avocado_> noah, can you take a look at that?
[00:55] <Avocado_> https://imgur.com/F15eo1S
[00:55] <noah> Do you have a backup uf the disk? If you do, try changing the type to 'basic'. Always have a backup. Disk partitioning is fun ;) (It fails sometimes)
[00:55] <Avocado_> this is what i see in disks
[00:55] <Avocado_> I get my external harddisk tomorrow, im gonna back up everythign on there
[00:55] <Avocado_> I can repartition it then, to be sure
[00:55] <Avocado_> I think its because of the dynamic type
[00:55] <Avocado_> I read it somewhere
[00:56] <TigersFox> hi
[00:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: At least, how would we resolve the graphics problems restore it to normal
[00:56] <noah> Once you have a backup, erase the disk and repartitonn it. Then copy the data of the backup.
[00:56] <Avocado_> https://imgur.com/yyAVNo6
[00:56] <Avocado_> noah take a look at that
[00:56] <Captonjamason> Hello, Im having some trouble with WIFI on ubuntu 14.04 on Acer 5517 Notebook, Its acting as if there is no wifi, Even though im in windows 7 typing this, I tried Updating (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade) and installing 15.10 but it didnt help
[00:56] <Avocado_> it says "unknown"
[00:56] <daftykins> Avocado_: that's definitely unwise, i would not keep a disk as dynamic.
[00:56] <Avocado_> What does dynamic type even mean?
[00:56] <daftykins> prepares it for joining together with other disks in a pool, under Windows
[00:56] <AbuDhar> it means it is dynamic :D
[00:56] <daftykins> Avocado_: anyway, run a manual mount command in the terminal; then show us the error output
[00:57] <Avocado_> I did shrink that disk one time, maybe thats why its dynamic now?
[00:57] <daftykins> !behelpful | AbuDhar or don't speak please
[00:57] <noah> I'm not sure, but I "THINK" that it's like LVM in linux.
[00:57] <AbuDhar> :D
[00:57] <Avocado_> So I use mount /dev/sdb2 right?
[00:57] <AbuDhar> what are you trying to do Avocado_+
[00:57] <Avocado_> (never mounted before)
[00:57] <noah> If your disk is /dev/sdb2.
[00:57] <daftykins> Avocado_: use http://paste.ubuntu.com to show us "sudo parted -l" to have a glance first
[00:58] <Avocado_> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13429644/
[00:58] <Avocado_> I have an SSD of 128gb, and the HDD is 750gb
[00:59] <daftykins> Avocado_: so no, /dev/sdb1 - make sure it's not tried to automount by typing "mount" on its' own and looking for sdb1
[00:59] <daftykins> although that doesn't even recognise a file system on there, which is not good at all.
[00:59] <Avocado_> Weird, i can read and write on windows
[01:00] <daftykins> yes, spotted that quirk :)
[01:00] <noah> Once it works, try to add it to /etc/fstab to automaticly mount it on startup.
[01:00] <daftykins> Captonjamason: can you identify the wifi device involved?
[01:00] <Avocado_> so now I try "mount /dev/sdb1"?
[01:00] <daftykins> noah: jumping a bit far ahead, since it's not gonna work
[01:00] <Avocado_> is that the correct command
[01:00] <logglog> hello everyone is there a way to make ubuntus sidebar to act intelligente, for example when i put firefox to maximum size i want that the sidebar hides. is it possible to make it. (i am new to linux)
[01:00] <daftykins> Avocado_: well did you see it auto mounted yet or no? from "mount"
[01:00] <noah> Ok. Sorry.
[01:01] <Avocado_> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13429724/
[01:01] <noah> Try "sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs"/
[01:01] <noah> Try "sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs".
[01:01] <daftykins> Avocado_: ok good, looks like a no - so "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt" - which should fail, then show us what "dmesg | tail" said as well as the error
[01:02] <Avocado_> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13429763/
[01:02] <alain> logglog, did you try a right-click in the panel?
[01:03] <daftykins> Avocado_: nope that didn't show anything relevant, did the mount command error? what did it say?
[01:03] <Avocado_> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:03] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: the_count: I don't think there is any difference there. xev (guess that stands for X events) only shows simulated scroll button press events, on both OSes, and evtest shows more low-level events that are the same (just two fingers on touchpad, that's all). Where is the processing connected with smooth scrolling - I don't know - don't know if it is somehow handled as a X event as well. I think it is pretty obvious that the apps
[01:04] <daftykins> Avocado_: ok. which dist are we dealing with? "cat /etc/issue"
[01:04] <Avocado_> filesystem type should be NTFS right? how do i put that in the command there?
[01:04] <RaizQuadrada> g
[01:04] <daftykins> well since parted couldn't see it, we can tell it... but i'm sure it won't help.
[01:04] <daftykins> Avocado_: "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt" though do confirm version with the above for me first
[01:04] <Avocado_> daftykins, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[01:04] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: No easy way of killing certain processes when VPN fails? :/
[01:05] <TigersFox> kann jemand per zufall deutsch hier ^
[01:05] <Avocado_> daftykins, ready to go?
[01:05] <AlexQ> VictoriaXOXO: It isn't a hard way. Do you think it would be easier on Windows? :D
[01:05] <daftykins> Avocado_: yeah give it a go, i suspect an error
[01:06] <Avocado_> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13430177/
[01:06] <noah> use sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/xxx /mnt/mydevice. replace xxx with your device name.
[01:06] <daftykins> yeah that's not a good sign.
[01:06] <Avocado_> I think i gotta reformat the disk
[01:06] <daftykins> Avocado_: that'd be the easiest way, you could try running gparted and see if it says anything about the disk first
[01:07] <daftykins> i'm sure a more experienced volunteer i know here could help, but it's only a format away anyway
[01:07] <Avocado_> I'll wait for tomorrow, after I backup ill reformat is as NTFS, right?
[01:07] <TigersFox> have you a weblink, where i can my skript upload?
[01:07] <noah> Just back up, reformat, and restore
[01:08] <Avocado_> wait, "restore"?
[01:08] <Avocado_> oh you mean, put files back in
[01:08] <Avocado_> Yeah, ill do that
[01:08] <noah> Restore from the backup
[01:08] <Avocado_> Thanks for help daftykins
[01:08] <Avocado_> and noah
[01:08] <daftykins> np
[01:08] <AlexQ> Avocado_: Yeah, backup as in copy files, not in make a partition image.
[01:08] <VictoriaXOXO> AlexQ: Yes, much easier. I've done it in the past.
[01:09] <noah> A partition image is useless because it takes the error with it :)
[01:09] <Avocado_> daftykins, what was the /mnt command for btw? i thought mount already meant mount
[01:09] <daftykins> that's where to mount to.
[01:09] <Avocado_> ohh
[01:09] <Avocado_> it takes /dev/sdb1 and mounts it to /mnt
[01:09] <Avocado_> got it
[01:09] <daftykins> yep
[01:09] <Avocado_> new to linux..
[01:10] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:10] <Avocado_> But its addicting as hell trying to fix everything
[01:10] <daftykins> it's pretty nuts when you're new, used to X: and so on... but essentially any folder path such as /something/here can be a folder on a disk, or a mount point for a disk or partition
[01:10] <daftykins> hey nothing's broken :P
[01:12] <noah> Use the -t option to manually set the partition type. Yours in NTFS, so use 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/xxx /path/to/mount/point' Replace 'xxx' with your device name, replace /path/to/mount/point with any empty directory that you want to maunt it to.
[01:12] <Avocado_> so why is the mount folder called /mnt?
[01:12] <Avocado_> is /mnt just a shortcut to access /dev/xxx?
[01:13] <Avocado_> I could mount it to /banana too?
[01:13] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: When a guide tells me to "point to your VPN's IP...", what do they mean? I get a new IP ever single time I connect. :/
[01:13] <AlexQ> Avocado_: Mount point is just a pre-existing empty directory.
[01:13] <Avocado_> I thought my ubuntu OS is "mounted"?
[01:13] <Avocado_> where does that get mounted?
[01:13] <AlexQ> Avocado_: /
[01:13] <Avocado_> oh
[01:13] <Avocado_> thats like the tree trunk
[01:14] <Avocado_> when you look at it from visual point of view
[01:14] <Avocado_> and every folder inside it is a branch
[01:14] <noah> No No No. /dev/xxx should be replaced with /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb2 or whatever your device is. /mnt is a generic folder for mounting devices, but it is just a folder. For more info, run 'man mount'
[01:14] <Avocado_> and folder inside that is another branch
[01:14] <Avocado_> ?
[01:14] <Avocado_> what does the man command do
[01:14] <Avocado_> its like "help"?>
[01:14] <AlexQ> That's like mounting different trees to branches of one main tree. | man opens a manual page, yep
[01:15] <noah> The 'man' command brings up documentation on commands or config files
[01:15] <Avocado_> woah cool!
[01:15] <Avocado_> im starting to like linux
[01:15] <noah> Linux is So Cool!
[01:15] <Avocado_> its a shame the DPI is fucked up for my chrome browser
[01:15] <Avocado_> i have to use firefox cant stand the font rendering on chrome browser
[01:16] <Avocado_> https://imgur.com/iFjK5tA
[01:16] <Avocado_> look at how oversized and bold the font is
[01:18] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: When a guide tells me to "point to your VPN's IP...", what do they mean? I get a new IP ever single time I connect. :/
[01:19] <Avocado_> VictoriaXOXO, I think the VPN's IP and the IP that your VPN gives you are 2 different things
[01:19] <Avocado_> could be wrong
[01:19] <AlexQ> VictoriaXOXO: Maybe they mean the VPN server you connect to, rather than the external IP you get? These are two different things I presume, tough I am a total VPN noob. Yeah Avocado_
[01:19] <VictoriaXOXO> AlexQ: Well, stupid explanation then? :P
[01:19] <VictoriaXOXO> Avocado_: Hmm. Maybe.
[01:20] <MrCeeIII> good evening.... I had a quick question... what if you are within an application and the computer freezes... what do you do cold reboot? is there somthing else i can try first? please advise
[01:21] <Avocado_> VictoriaXOXO, Maybe this is related to your question: http://www.overclock.net/t/411495/how-to-find-the-vpn-host-name-or-ip-address#post_4912679
[01:22] <MrCeeIII> good evening.... I had a quick question... what if you are within an application and the computer freezes... what do you do cold reboot? is there somthing else i can try first? please advise
[01:22] <VictoriaXOXO> Avocado_: Boooooom. Saved. :)
[01:22] <MrCeeIII> anyone?anyone?
[01:23] <daftykins> !reisub | MrCeeIII
[01:23] <VictoriaXOXO> MrCeeIII: Maybe this? http://blog.kember.net/articles/reisub-the-gentle-linux-restart/
[01:23] <VictoriaXOXO> XD
[01:23] <VictoriaXOXO> I'm so slow.
[01:23] <Avocado_> So weird, when you google "f", facebook shows up at top
[01:23] <Avocado_> :D
[01:23] <daftykins> not weird at all, certainly off topic though :)
[01:24] <VictoriaXOXO> Avocado_: Not weird. They serve the same master. ;)
[01:24] <Avocado_> Google and facebook are different tho
[01:24] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yeah.maybe we should work on the display .. There are bug reports in this respect of the graphic's driver and touchpad . ' lspci ; sudo lshw -C display ] to see what it will take to restore .
[01:27] <MrCeeIII> alt printscreen does nothing... hello daftykins...
[01:27] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: where did you get the idea that you had to press that from?
[01:28] <MrCeeIII> !from ubottu up there ^
[01:28] <MrCeeIII> WTH?
[01:28] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: you might want to read a bit closer then.
[01:28] <VictoriaXOXO> MrCeeIII: Dude. You need to hold down Alt+PrintScreen AND then type REISUB.
[01:29] <MrCeeIII> the print screen on this keyboard is a function
[01:29] <VictoriaXOXO> MrCeeIII: And don't let daftykins get to you. He's helpful, but cold. XD
[01:29] <MrCeeIII> i know him...
[01:29] <MrCeeIII> and i know his ways
[01:29] <VictoriaXOXO> MrCeeIII: What kind of a keyboard is that? :/
[01:30] <MrCeeIII> idunno gateway... i have to hold down a funtion key to then hit printscreen
[01:30] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: "free -m" > http://paste.ubuntu.com
[01:31] <MrCeeIII> basically the windows ctrl alt delete on linux
[01:31] <daftykins> is what you're after? yeah doesn't work like that
[01:31] <daftykins> plus if Windows had frozen, trying to call up the task manager is equally useless
[01:32] <daftykins> another angle you can take, though... is trying to press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to TTY1.
[01:32] <MrCeeIII> so shall i cold boot in the future?
[01:32] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: if you run the above command and put it on the paste site though, i can check if you're freezing up for a lack of RAM issue.
[01:32] <daftykins> cold boot means to press power from being switched off, i'm not sure how you'd apply that to freezing
[01:32] <the_count> Bashing-om: May we resume this monday?
[01:33] <MrCeeIII> i thought there was somthing out there that i can get to a window and type top
[01:33] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: yeah the above, ctrl+alt+F1
[01:33] <baiter> free -m|pastebin
[01:33] <MrCeeIII> i simply hold the powere key till the computer shuts off
[01:33] <daftykins> baiter: it's pastebinit in ubuntu ; and needs installing.
[01:33] <baiter> it does?
[01:33] <daftykins> yes
[01:35] <baiter> now that everybody's on 64 bit os, it's easy to get 32 gig+ ram
[01:35] <baiter> dunno why they don't offer it more often
[01:36] <daftykins> "they" ? there's not one single computer manufacturer.
[01:36] <baiter> i mean pre-built desktop sellers
[01:36] <baiter> was the context unclear?
[01:37] <daftykins> you're just off topic i'm afraid :)
[01:37] <daftykins> and also pretty wrong ime
[01:39] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sure, at your pace .
[01:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: I've got 500 projects going on right now, and I will have to pace them out I guess, have a good one...
[01:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: Are you around Sunday's?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yes, even on a sunday ... I will be around - later in the eve .
[01:47] <the_count> Ok, I might, I'll see
[01:56] <cluelesscoder> so I wanted to show my brother Linux and open-source programming... he runs Windows and lives across the country
[01:56] <VictoriaXOXO> Awwww yissss. Got rid of that stupid error while shutting down. ÖD
[01:56] <VictoriaXOXO> :D
[01:56] <cluelesscoder> we both downlaoded http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute/?version=15.10&architecture=amd64 and tried to use with Virtualbox
[01:57] <cluelesscoder> both got the SquashFS error
[01:57] <cluelesscoder> pretty disappointing
[01:57] <cluelesscoder> (I'm running OSX El Capitan)
[01:57] <daftykins> cluelesscoder: bad downloads perhaps, try the torrents instead.
[01:57] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Use a torrent download.
[01:57] <daftykins> which virt tech did you boot with?
[01:57] <cluelesscoder> we both had bad downloads?
[01:57] <Acerio> Oh daftykins beat me to it
[01:57] <daftykins> Acerio: only just ;)
[01:57] <cluelesscoder> the downloads page doesn't have an have an md5sum!
[01:58] <daftykins> yes it does; http://releases.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <cluelesscoder> well not from the main page to download it
[01:58] <cluelesscoder> I got there from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/
[01:58] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Maybe try installing it on the actual HDD?
[01:58] <daftykins> needing to check the hashes doesn't tend to be a beginner task, so *shrug*
[01:59] <cluelesscoder> yeah, but it's essential to help a beginner (or experienced person) get unstuck
[01:59] <VictoriaXOXO> I'm a beginner, but paranoid. I need hashes. :o)
[01:59] <cluelesscoder> pretty sad that Ubuntu is dumbing things down to the point where they don't even present an md5sum
[01:59] <VictoriaXOXO> Check ALL the hashes!
[01:59] <blhack> I'm beginner too
[01:59] <daftykins> cluelesscoder: i believe your opinion on this matter is ridiculous.
[02:00] <cluelesscoder> I guess I should have stuck with Arch anyway
[02:00] <mgolisch> all cds come with a test thing dont they?
[02:00] <daftykins> mgolisch: typically, yeah - at least on legacy boot i know for sure
[02:00] <cluelesscoder> mgolish: it's 2015, neither of us even have CD drives on our laptops
[02:00] <Acerio> YOU CAN INSTALL ARCH BUT NOT UBUNTU?
[02:00] <mgolisch> cluelesscoder: i meant the iso
[02:00] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: well yeah. there's something to be said for a clearly documented wiki
[02:01] <daftykins> lets get back on topic now, rather than slating an entire distro for our inability to find the information we want.
[02:01] <hggdh> ...
[02:01] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: it's basically foolproof
[02:01] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Let me figure out your issue. What is the problem again?
[02:01] <daftykins> too late.
[02:01] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: I'm using Ubuntu, but have used the AL wiki more than the Ubuntu wiki. XD
[02:01] <Acerio> Explain it to me in depth.
[02:01] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquashfsErrors
[02:02] <Acerio> That page gives you solutions.
[02:02] <Acerio> Literally.
[02:02] <Acerio> Try testing things out, it shows several causes, and several solutions. Try them all!
[02:02] <Acerio> :)
[02:02] <VictoriaXOXO> I don't think he wants solutions. I think he wants to put down Ubuntu. :P
[02:03] <noah> Anyone know of a good DHCP server for Ubuntu?
[02:03] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: it's pretty amazing to have this issue in the latest release when it's been reported since 2007
[02:03] <daftykins> noah: "apt-cache search dhcp" - are you sure you need one? typically this is handled by your router...
[02:03] <daftykins> cluelesscoder: you're the first person with it since 15.10's release, so i think it's more down to yourself
[02:03] <mgolisch> cluelesscoder: maybe your image is bad?
[02:04] <daftykins> (or rather your computer :) )
[02:04] <mgolisch> or your computer has bad memory
[02:04] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: It's because of your computer, not the OS.
[02:04] <noah> Yes. I want more configuration than my router provides, and I do not want to buy a new one.
[02:04] <Acerio> It could also be because you are on a Mac, with a VM incompatible CPU.
[02:04] <VictoriaXOXO> 7e5b393977d41b77c2208fbef7b3c23d2f134e9f *ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:04] <Acerio> But every other bit of information would be given there.
[02:04] <VictoriaXOXO> Easy money.
[02:04] <cluelesscoder> both my computer and my brother's computer (running Windows 10) are bad in the same way?
[02:04] <cluelesscoder> if that's so, it hits a wide market
[02:05] <cluelesscoder> in any case, those solutions are presented in like 1/10 the level of detail they would be presented on Arch
[02:05] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: Check the sha1sum for your .iso. 7e5b393977d41b77c2208fbef7b3c23d2f134e9f *ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:05] <monsune> oh btw can you sha1 just a text and not a file?
[02:05] <daftykins> cluelesscoder: seriously downloading one file then saying there's an issue distro wide, you realise how overreacting this is? you probably just got a bad local mirror (if it's even the file at the source)
[02:05] <noah> OK. After trying 'apt-cache search dhcp' i've found DHCPD. I'll try that!
[02:05] <hggdh> cluelesscoder: please stop. We are not comparing arch or anything else. If youfeel better with arch, go there.
[02:06] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Try another ISO, or something.
[02:06] <monsune> cluelesscoder win10 is evil...
[02:06] <Acerio> Maybe you didn't burn it correctly, or maybe it was a bad mirror.
[02:06] <daftykins> !ot | monsune NO.
[02:06] <monsune> daftykins got it.
[02:06] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: "NO." -- Like he's a dog. :P
[02:07] <cluelesscoder> how do I edit a grub.conf file in an ISO?
[02:07] <cluelesscoder> never had to do that
[02:07] <monsune> so can you sha1 a text? i need a sha1 pass hash for word: hello
[02:07] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Just install another ISO!
[02:07] <monsune> VictoriaXOXO i'm sure that he really meant that ;)
[02:08] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: one would think that the one pointed to by the big Download button at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/ would be the most reliable
[02:08] <monsune> 1700+ in the # has no clue how to generate a sha1 hash in ubuntu :)
[02:08] <VictoriaXOXO> Well, we're all dirty dogs in here, according to Arch users. /end of off-topic
[02:08] <monsune> VictoriaXOXO ha ha
[02:08] <noah> If it is a squashfs, use the unsquashfs program to extract it, cd into the extracted directory, and edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[02:08] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: 64bit or 32bit PC?
[02:08] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: but yeah, I'll try it again I guess
[02:08] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: I will find one that will probably work.
[02:09] <hggdh> cluelesscoder: why don't you go to releases.ubuntu.com, download from there, and check md5s from there?
[02:09] <daftykins> monsune: hang on let me wake up all 17xx members of the channel to tell you you're off topic and should move to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:09] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[02:09] <Acerio> ^ 32 bit
[02:09] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[02:09] <Acerio> ^ 64 bit
[02:10] <Acerio> Those will most likely work. Make sure to correctly burn the ISO onto a CD.
[02:10] <cluelesscoder> hggdh: is that even linked anywhere from the main page?
[02:10] <monsune> daftykins that would be something absolutely cool to watch :)
[02:10] <Acerio> Unless you are using VM?
[02:10] <hggdh> cluelesscoder: no
[02:10] <UbuN2> hello linux workd :()
[02:10] <Acerio> If VM, make sure your settings are correct. and make sure your CPU is VM compatible, as well as the rest of your hardware.
[02:10] <monsune> UbuN2 hello non-Arch user :)
[02:10] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: well yeah, as I said this happened installing on Virtualbox
[02:11] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: I run virtual box installations of Linux all the time for work
[02:11] <UbuN2> i do have arch and LFS monsune
[02:11] <hggdh> cluelesscoder: well, it is, via http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[02:11] <UbuN2> ;)
[02:11] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: If you say you installed Arch before, and used it for a while, I am surprised you have issues with Ubuntu.
[02:12] <Acerio> Ubuntu is usually the beginners Linux distro, and it is very user friendly, unlike Arch.
[02:12] <Acerio> Arch does not have an installer :P
[02:12] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: yep, that's why I was surprised to find it didn't work
[02:12] <VictoriaXOXO> Acerio: True, but the AL wiki is EXTREMELY useful and user friendly. Even I get some of it.
[02:12] <Renzadic> Hey how are we doing, I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 15 on to a usb drive. Through windows i am always successful but when using unetbootin on ubuntu or just the start up disk creator it always gives me a bootloader failed message. On the disks page it shows loops from the iso to the usb device which is weird and also doesnt work of course when i try to boot from usb.
[02:13] <Acerio> I installed Ubuntu 15.10 on a clients PC this morning, with no issues.
[02:13] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: and for both myself and my brother halfway across the world, with very different underlying systems, to have the same issue...
[02:13] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: it's just sad that Ubuntu continues to have so many problems
[02:13] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Strange, you and your brother are the only ones :P
[02:13] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: no, it's a common problem - that's why there is a wiki page
[02:14] <Renzadic> Hey how are we doing, I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 15 on to a usb drive. Through windows i am always successful but when using unetbootin on ubuntu or just the start up disk creator it always gives me a bootloader failed message. On the disks page it shows loops from the iso to the usb device which is weird and also doesnt work of course when i try to boot from usb.
[02:14] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: I hardly see people complain. Millions of PC's run ubuntu no problem.
[02:14] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: I'm afraid... the problem is... you.
[02:14] <Acerio> Renzadic: Try CD?
[02:14] <Acerio> Renzadic: Or maybe there is an issue with GRUB.
[02:15] <Renzadic> Acerio, so where would i begin
[02:15] <utu8o> which video chat app would protect the privacy and legal confidentiality of doctor-patient relationship??
[02:15] <Apteryx> Any idea why such an xinput script has no effect when it's ran from my .profile ? : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13388742/
[02:15] <Acerio> Renzadic: Try getting a blank CD, burning the Ubuntu ISO. Booting to CD. If there is still a bootloader error, try another HDD, or Google the error and try to look on forum listings to see if someone got the same issue.
[02:15] <daftykins> utu8o: i don't think anyone here would be qualified to comment on that front.
[02:15] <VictoriaXOXO> utu8o: None.
[02:16] <utu8o> VictoriaXOXO, what would the closes software be?
[02:17] <VictoriaXOXO> utu8o: I guess I'm the wrong person to ask. I don't trust any of them. There's even duct-tape on my laptops and phones.
[02:17] <VictoriaXOXO> Because of the cameras, that is.
[02:18] <jazbec1> Hi. I've just installed bodhi linux and my usb wi-fi dingle doesnt work. I've tried some things, and it seems that "the kernel module is loaded but the software firmware-ralink doesn't seem to be in the repository" can anyone help? thanks.
[02:18] <Acerio> jazbec1: wrong place to ask bud.
[02:18] <daftykins> jazbec1: sorry that's not supported here.
[02:18] <daftykins> only ubuntu and official derivatives
[02:19] <_nemesys> hello everybody opennerd
[02:19] <jazbec1> ok, thanks anyway
[02:19] <Acerio> VictoriaXOXO: utu8o: Many softwares claim to be safe. But "slack" seems the most trustworthy, but still, you never know.
[02:19] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: well, do you know how to open an ISO and edit the grub file? ISO is not generally an editable thing
[02:20] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: I've asked that myself once. Don't know, yet.
[02:20] <monsune> Acerio go with freebsd if you want "safe" :) ipfw ftw :)
[02:20] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Dude. I think you are approaching this the wrong way. I just offered help, and I bet you didn't even attempt it. Please try it, before jumping to conclusions.
[02:20] <Acerio> monsune: ;)
[02:21] <monsune> plus somehow ssh works better on freebsd, it's totally alive compared to linux
[02:21] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: it's impossible :)
[02:21] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: basically they are saying you need to boot to grub and edit it from there somehow
[02:21] <daftykins> cluelesscoder: edit for what purpose? you have a corrupt download...
[02:21] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: OH. Boot to GRUB.
[02:21] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: Oh, okay. But did you verify the susm? 7e5b393977d41b77c2208fbef7b3c23d2f134e9f *ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:21] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: but that is the only suggested solution on the wiki
[02:21] <daftykins> we said to grab the torrent - you could have done it by now.
[02:21] <blhack> how to upgrade ubuntu 15.04?
[02:22] <Acerio> blhack: In Ubuntu search, look up "Upgrade"
[02:22] <Acerio> blhack: By "Ubuntu search", I mean the dash.
[02:22] <daftykins> blhack: run "do-release-upgrade" or just open the update manager.
[02:22] <Acerio> ^
[02:22] <daftykins> Acerio: if you're not 100%, don't respond to folk...
[02:22] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: MD5 (ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso) = ece816e12f97018fa3d4974b5fd27337
[02:22] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: I rebooted the machine and now it is running (at least seems to be running)
[02:23] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: Try the SHA-1 one, please. I don't trust MD5. :P
[02:23] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: Oh, nice.
[02:23] <daftykins> that's ridiculous ^
[02:23] <Acerio> daftykins: I did it the other day. If you do the step, it works. There is an application that upgrades.
[02:23] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: so apparently that SqashFS error is just a scare tactic
[02:23] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: Nice. :D
[02:24] <blhack> how many GB do I need? for upgrade my ubuntu
[02:24] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: not amazing - it's not good to throw errors up if they don't mean anything
[02:24] <daftykins> depends on your install
[02:25] <cluelesscoder> VictoriaXOXO: the SqashFS error doesn't seem to be much of a thing on other distros from what I can tell
[02:25] <daftykins> yes it is, common issue when images are corrupt or a boot issue occurs
[02:25] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: I'm lucky when it comes to that error. I've never seen it.
[02:25] <monsune> cluelesscoder talk about errors that don't mean anything... Method 'GET /nodes/ns458292/qemu/103/pending' not implemented (501)
[02:25] <monsune> i spent 12 hrs on this already
[02:26] <Acerio> VictoriaXOXO: Same. I think it is his hardware.
[02:26] <Acerio> monsune: heh
[02:26] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: yep, my Macbook and my brother's Toshiba...
[02:26] <monsune> wish there was some cool proxmox dude around to help
[02:26] <VictoriaXOXO> cluelesscoder: Would it REALLY surprise you?
[02:27] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: It could be: bad memory modules, a bad dvd drive, bad data cable, bad media, or a corrupted image.
[02:28] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: probably corrupted image, do a md5 checksum, and if they do not match, redownload. But to save time, just redownload.
[02:28] <cluelesscoder> the sad thing is that I was running Ubuntu LiveCDs painlessly in like 2007
[02:28] <cluelesscoder> showed it off to lots of friends and stuff
[02:28] <VictoriaXOXO> Acerio: He did a md5 checksum, but not sha1.
[02:28] <monsune> cluelesscoder and i still remember RedHat 3.0 on 4 CDs :)
[02:28] <Acerio> VictoraXOXO: Did it match?
[02:29] <VictoriaXOXO> Acerio: I hope so. XD
[02:29] <watUbuntu> I'm on ubuntu on my main disk now. other disks are formatted. if i want to put windows on other disk, how do I dual boot?
[02:29] <daftykins> cluelesscoder: again, everything you're trumpeting today is a bunch of sensational rubbish... i was giving help back then and plenty of people had the error due to corrupt downloads. so please... move on and stop spreading FUD.
[02:29] <monsune> i had those nifty, shiny black CDRs for it :)
[02:29] <watUbuntu> all tutorials keep saying i need to have windows before
[02:30] <VictoriaXOXO> watUbuntu: Do you want the Windows part because of Adobe products and games?
[02:30] <watUbuntu> yes
[02:30] <daftykins> watUbuntu: you could disconnect your ubuntu disk, install to the other, reconnect and boot ubuntu- then run "sudo update-grub"
[02:30] <VictoriaXOXO> watUbuntu: Oh...
[02:30] <monsune> watUbuntu get OSX for adobe part...
[02:30] <noah> Install Windows to the partition, then run 'sudo update-grub' to add it to your GRUB menu.
[02:30] <watUbuntu> I will try wine 1st
[02:30] <monsune> watUbuntu or try proxmox
[02:31] <VictoriaXOXO> watUbuntu: Don't. Wine works like shiet with Adobe products (the ones I've tried).
[02:31] <daftykins> !language
[02:31] <watUbuntu> thank you
[02:31] <monsune> watUbuntu just go with ubuntu and install winbox with qemu
[02:31] <ron__> im about to buy an ssd and want to move root to the ssd and leave home directory on current HDD. Any ideas on how I can accomplish this?
[02:31] <cluelesscoder> daftykins: well, it's pretty hard for me to spread Linux if the easiest distribution doesn't work properly in Virtualbox and the common suggestion is to use a CD
[02:32] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: No, just get another ISO! Redownload it!
[02:32] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: it's running for me
[02:32] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Just delete the VM, delete your current ISO. Download the same ISO, and do it again!
[02:32] <noah> You should look into editing the fstab
[02:32] <daftykins> cluelesscoder: well it wouldn't fit on a CD anyway, but like i told you - we haven't had anyone else complaining of what you have - so please stop flogging this dead horse and move on. no more FUD.
[02:33] <cluelesscoder> Acerio: the only problem now is that it is super-laggy for my brother, but oh well
[02:33] <monsune> i like the part about dead horse most :)
[02:33] <Acerio> daftykins: An Ubuntu install disk would fit on a CD dude. :P
[02:33] <Acerio> cluelesscoder: Probably incompatible CPU for VM. But it is still running. VirtualBox is not the best way to run an OS.
[02:33] <daftykins> Acerio: no, they are 1.1GB if you look up at 15.10 - i suspect you're thinking a DVD is still a CD.
[02:33] <monsune> virtualbox is actually, uh, crap.
[02:33] <hggdh> Acerio: an ubuntu *ISO* does not fit in a CD
[02:33] <Acerio> daftykins: Oh, that's right. heh
[02:33] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[02:33] <Acerio> I was thinking of DVD. whoopsies.
[02:34] <monsune> virtualbox indeed fails alot depending on hw it is running on so the issue isn't probably related to linux at all
[02:34] <Acerio> I only run VM's for testing purposes.
[02:34] <monsune> please do it right and use qemu :)
[02:35] <daftykins> i 100% disagree with that statement monsune
[02:35] <Acerio> daftykins: Actually, Ubuntu CAN fit on a CD. The Minimal build :)
[02:35] <monsune> daftykins i could understand 50% but 100%?
[02:35] <daftykins> Acerio: funny how the answer changes when you caveat the comment, huh?
[02:36] <Acerio> daftykins: huh?
[02:36] <monsune> daftykins qemu is much better... especially when you use virtio
[02:36] <monsune> unless you don't care about the i/o in vm
[02:36] <daftykins> i don't care for your opinion
[02:36] <monsune> mine?
[02:36] <VictoriaXOXO> Wow. daftykins is on fire tonight.
[02:36] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: as mentioned, keep your chat comments to yourself thanks, they're off topic.
[02:37] <VictoriaXOXO> XD
[02:37] <Acerio> daftykins: I just generally swap CD and DVD without noticing, as if they meant the same thing. Of course, they are different, but it is a common mistake, and besides, Ubuntu can fit on a CD. But ONLY Ubuntu. Not it's desktop environment, built-in programs, etc. etc. (ie minimal build)
[02:37] <VictoriaXOXO> And I'm the one that needs to be told to be polite. Okaaaaaay.
[02:37] * monsune goes to sit in the corner.
[02:37] <daftykins> Acerio: there's no need for us to go over the point for another 30 minutes.
[02:37] <VictoriaXOXO> monsune: Here! Catch! Cookie time.
[02:38] <monsune> VictoriaXOXO thank you my darling :)
[02:38] <Acerio> daftykins is such a savage lol.
[02:38] <logglog> Hello everyone. I have been using windows since i first time heard for pcs, now after using windows more than 20 years i want to use linux. I have been using linux for 2 years as dual boot, i am still new with linux. I tried all possible distros (well about 15 :) ). The only think that is keeping me on windows is ms office, i rly need it and must use it for my college. Is there a way to install it and run it properly.
[02:38] <VictoriaXOXO> Acerio: He can be very helpful, but at the same time very douchey.
[02:38] <daftykins> Acerio: i don't think you know what you're saying.
[02:38] <Acerio> logglog: OpenOffice? Google Docs?
[02:38] <monsune> logglog and when was that first time exactly?
[02:38] <Acerio> VictoriaXOXO: I like him. He's a helpful guy, with an attitude XD
[02:38] <VictoriaXOXO> :P
[02:39] <logglog> when i had 3 years :P no joke
[02:39] <logglog> muahhaha
[02:39] <Acerio> daftykins: You are a savage. I know exactly what I said. I love it.
[02:39] <monsune> i don't understand people who quit windows just to use linux :) and then they run back to windows a week later screaming some nasty stuff :)
[02:39] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: i give you help and tolerate your stupid questions, what more do you want? a smile? ":)"
[02:39] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: In fact, that WOULD be nice!
[02:39] <Acerio> :)
[02:39] <logglog> Well i tried using ms office with wine, but the fonts were bad and had some malfunctions
[02:39] <Acerio> monsune: yeah, so true.
[02:40] <UbuN2> this HELP channel is getting out of control
[02:40] <Acerio> logglog: May be wrong, but maybe winetricks can run MS Office?
[02:40] <monsune> Acerio it just never works... the point is to use both and migrate in small steps
[02:40] <daftykins> UbuN2: too many bored trolls tonight it seems
[02:40] * Acerio joins offtopic channel!
[02:40] <logglog> Wine can run office, but had malfunctions like font didnt work and sometimes it crashed
[02:40] <UbuN2> yep they are not helping the cause sir
[02:41] <monsune> daftykins man... it's saturday.
[02:41] <Acerio> logglog: Odd.
[02:41] <Acerio> enough offtopic. #ubuntu-offtopic to continue!
[02:41] <monsune> as for ubuntu desktop... can one disable font smoothing in there?
[02:42] <monsune> i like crispy fonts.
[02:42] <watUbuntu> seems wine is working enough for me
[02:43] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Why show me a lot of white text on a black background (while booting), when I'm never fast enough to even read any of it?
[02:44] <UbuN2> check the .logs VictoriaXOXO
[02:44] <UbuN2> :)
[02:44] <daftykins> they used to be displayed permanently on another TTY, but the desire to switch to a silly graphical boot logo (plymouth) overrode useful things like that
[02:44] <Acerio> VictoriaXOXO: Because that is logged, in case something goes wrong
[02:44] <VictoriaXOXO> I even disabled all of the stupid GUI stuff!
[02:44] <daftykins> oh the logs point has already been shared, but i think someone is still obsessing over an error on shutdown
[02:44] <monsune> VictoriaXOXO that's not for you :) it's for loggers :)
[02:44] <VictoriaXOXO> Removed "splash quiet" or whatever it is called.
[02:44] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Nope. It's gone now.
[02:45] <daftykins> of course, if someone halted rather than reboot/shutdown - that'd still be displayed most likely *cough*
[02:45] <VictoriaXOXO> I fixed it.
[02:45] <UbuN2> i see .
[02:45] <daftykins> no, you worked around it by removing stuff
[02:45] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: I didn't remove anything.
[02:45] * UbuN2 chews his gum and cracks on his Os
[02:45] <daftykins> that's nice
[02:46] <daftykins> anyway learning to read and make use of logs is a big part of Linux usage.
[02:46] <Acerio> ^
[02:46] <UbuN2> yep
[02:47] <Acerio> very important, especially with server management.
[02:47] <UbuN2> reading can make solving problems easier
[02:47] <monsune> that's why you don't use desktop first of all :)
[02:47] <Acerio> Mhmm. It is like a puzzle, and can lead you where the problem is, and sometimes tell you how to fix it.
[02:48] <UbuN2> agreed.
[02:48] * UbuN2 idles abit with eyes on chat
[02:48] <monsune> when there is just you and the console... your brain works faster.
[02:49] <daftykins> as i said earlier, if you want to chat you can do so freely in #ubuntu-offtopic - but keep this channel to the support only please
[02:49] <Acerio> monsune: With server managment, and basically every professional server management I've ever worked with, they always keep it CLI.
[02:49] <Acerio> Having a server use a GUI isn't a good idea.
[02:50] <UbuN2> i shouldlve rephrase chat to help sorry lol
[02:50] <monsune> Acerio and that's me, too :)
[02:51] <Acerio> monsune: I can tell you all about my servers, or servers I've worked with for work, in the offtopic channel :P
[02:51] <daftykins> yes, stop enabling one another and move please...
[02:51] <monsune> sure Acerio
[02:55] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Smooth scrolling uses XInput2 events. "xev is outdated in case of XInput2 events". use "xinput --test-xi2 <id>" to see vertical and horizontal scroll events with vectors
[02:55] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138546/smooth-scrolling-where-does-it-come-from
[03:01] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: reading.
[03:02] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: Maybe there is something wrong with GTK 3 libs.
[03:03] <ke4nhw> Hi, I just ran the ubuntu server setup, and nowhere during the setup did it allow me to set the root password. I am trying to get root logged in to get the password set to something secure. What is the default root password?
[03:03] <Acerio> ke4nhw: type "passwd"
[03:04] <Acerio> ke4nhw: or are you not at a command line?
[03:04] <ke4nhw> cli, at login screen for tty1
[03:04] <ke4nhw> now logged in for regular user
[03:05] <ke4nhw> I can change my passwd, which is not root passwd
[03:06] <daftykins> ke4nhw: we don't use the root account on ubuntu, it goes against the design of the distro.
[03:06] <ke4nhw> And one thing is for sure, I cannot allow a system to run that I don't control the root password. I'll have to delete the entire system and full wipe the hdd. Too much risk having an uncontrolled root pwd
[03:06] <AlexQ> BTW. Is Ubuntu 15.10 serving GTK2 or GTK3 version of Firefox?
[03:06] <daftykins> !root
[03:07] <Acerio> What ubottu said. Use "sudo" to type your user password. :)
[03:07] <ke4nhw> So will sudo allow you access to ALL functions, commands, and capabilities of root?
[03:07] <daftykins> ke4nhw: that's ridiculous; it's greater security. you use "sudo -i" if you want to switch properly to root@host for a set time
[03:07] <daftykins> otherwise just prefix commands with 'sudo'
[03:08] <ke4nhw> And again the problem exists that now there is a root password to the server that someone, not me, knows. Whether it's the developer or whoever, it is not someone that has server authorization.
[03:08] <daftykins> no there isn't a root password at all
[03:08] <pyios> how to check status of svn server?
[03:08] <pyios> how to check status of svn ?
[03:09] <daftykins> ke4nhw: what do you mean exactly? only the first user you created is a member of the sudo/admin group and so can use 'sudo'; that's how it works
[03:09] <daftykins> so in essence the password for that first user is the one that gives access :)
[03:10] <daftykins> ke4nhw: btw i hope you picked a long term support server release when you installed, i.e. 14.04 - 15.04 and 15.10 are only supported for a short time so must be upgraded from more often
[03:10] <Bashing-om> AlexQ: Remember, a driver is that interface between the hardware and the kernel . What we are looking for is that translation point . presently I am totally lost at where that point is .
[03:10] <ke4nhw> Wait a minute, root has no passwword? That makes no sense. I've never, and I mean never, dealt with an OS where root has no password and is completely inaccessible. If root had no password it would log in with no auth check. So Unbuntu has been coded in a way that makes it appear that root has a password, but there is no password, and the nonexistent password can't be guess for a user that
[03:10] <ke4nhw> exists but doesn't? Please tell me how that makes any sense in a *.nix environment
[03:11] <ke4nhw> I did, I got the LTS for that very reason
[03:12] <daftykins> it actually makes a lot of sense, since root can't be bruteforced this way
[03:12] <AlexQ> Bashing-om: The point is that these GTK3 apps are handling BOTH legacy button events (something like mouse-wheel-step-up and mouse-wheel-step-down, coded as button numbers) and newer XInput2 scroll vector events, which causes crazy behaviour.
[03:12] <daftykins> ke4nhw: good call on the LTS, just checking.
[03:13] <daftykins> ke4nhw: you know, even on a VPS where i was given a root password i disabled root SSH login, created an account and enabled sudo usage... it's safer.
[03:13] <ke4nhw> I didn't want to reinstall in a few months to a year, so I took LTS. And I can see the point that root can't be bruteforced this way, unless root actually does have a password that exists outside the knowledge of anyone but the developers. Then brute force isn't even necessary.
[03:13] <daftykins> ke4nhw: if you're new to ubuntu but used to other distributions, i can understand it might be frustrating to have change - but there's nothing wrong with it.
[03:13] <AlexQ> ke4nhw: Basically you can't log in to root until you set a password with sudo.
[03:14] <daftykins> AlexQ: we don't advise breaking the core design principles :)
[03:14] <AlexQ> daftykins: I know, I am just explaining how that is achieved technically.
[03:15] <daftykins> then you should include a warning when you give such advice :)
[03:15] <ke4nhw> Yes, it's precisely the same thing I do, I make all logins as a standard user with sudo privs, and root can ONLY login via a local tty. But, even if root is only used once a year for major maintenance, or even never, the primary user, the god user of the system, and his password, is firmly and completely under the control of the server owner, rather than out in limbo. I've dealt with dozens of
[03:15] <ke4nhw> servers in Linux, and my primary view was this: <cont>
[03:16] <daftykins> well you can violate this design if you really want, but i personally wouldn't
[03:17] <AlexQ> ke4nhw: You need to understand that it is a physical impossibility to log in as root on a fresh Ubuntu install. You might think of it as if the password record was 'corrupted', I mean as if there was no password possible that would match that password record. daftykins, how is that *technically* achieved?
[03:17] <daftykins> no idea how it's implemented
[03:17] <ke4nhw> If I'm putting my private and secure data on the server, and I'm going to maintain it, and I'm going to be responsible for it, then I will be the ONLY person alive with root access, with contingency plans well place and highly secured, but if I'm given a fully running server without root's password, it gets vaporized, completely, and started from scratch. Regardless of what was there to start
[03:17] <ke4nhw> with.
[03:17] <ke4nhw> Too much risk
[03:17] <Tashtari> The root password is not in limbo, though. Someone who knows more about this than I can correct me if I'm wrong, but the system maintains hashed passwords for each user, so when someone tries to log in, the system hashes the password and sees if it matches the hash for the username they logged in with - and root's password is set to a value that the hashing function cannot produce.
[03:18] <AlexQ> ke4nhw: Open /etc/shadow and look at the root password record.
[03:18] <daftykins> i think that's too paranoid a viewpoint on this matter.
[03:18] <ke4nhw> paranoid is bad how?
[03:18] <AlexQ> ke4nhw: Instead of a root password hash you have a '!' character there
[03:18] <nbrecht01> are you trying to login as root?
[03:18] <ke4nhw> Not now
[03:18] <daftykins> ke4nhw: well you're essentially saying an entire distro that's been going for years could have a core flaw nobody has noticed...
[03:19] <ke4nhw> I only tried it once to set a new root password that I and only I know, then I'd logout and login as my reg user
[03:19] <daftykins> ke4nhw: anyway, if *you personally* have a problem with it, just change it? i don't see the reason to grind an axe over it.
[03:19] <SupaYoshi> hey guys, i need some serious backup / image advice regarding my ubuntu server box.
[03:19] <ke4nhw> Same thing I do on any install, unless I set root password during the install
[03:19] <AlexQ> ke4nhw: No password string, after hashing (with whatever hashing algo) will result in a "!" string.
[03:19] <SupaYoshi> I have been reading about making a backup of my installation, i made earlier backups by hand with clonezilla.
[03:20] <SupaYoshi> But i've been reading about a way to make rsync, do a backup of my entire os disk.
[03:20] <nbrecht01> run 'sudo passwd root' and follow the prompts. Then, run 'su -' and input the recently set password.
[03:20] <SupaYoshi> However, I am quite unsure what to do, because i have an LVM settup.
[03:21] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13434445/
[03:21] <SupaYoshi> = /dev/mapper/HOMESRV--vg-root is my os partition.
[03:22] <ke4nhw> Thank you, and it's not that I'm grinding an axe, it's just that different people have different standards. Mine exists on a paranoid level
[03:22] <SupaYoshi> how would i make the best backup of this? rsync?
[03:22] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: i'd carry on as you are
[03:23] <daftykins> rsync isn't for disk wide backups imo
[03:23] <SupaYoshi> daftykins, what do you mean?
[03:23] <SupaYoshi> okay fair enough.
[03:23] <SupaYoshi> But I'd rather automatize the backup of the os installation.
[03:23] <SupaYoshi> because i cannot be bothered creating a new backup manually tbh, like anyone else.
[03:24] <daftykins> find yourself an rsync script and focus on just data, then i'd say
[03:24] <SupaYoshi> okay. but the grub loader and all that.
[03:24] <ke4nhw> It's not uncommon, and I once lost data over it, since the previous owner of the server, the person who was teaching me Linux and helping me manage a file server, refused to give me sudo access high enough to change root pw, allow me to change it, or give it up, even after he turned the whole thing over to me lock stock and barrel. He said he wanted to maintain root access "for nostalgia
[03:24] <ke4nhw> reasons". Boot Knoppix, enter multiple passes of dd
[03:25] <SupaYoshi> I cannot backup that by rsync of course.
[03:25] <SupaYoshi> so clonezilla is my best way to do it then you'd say.
[03:25] <ke4nhw> Very simply, I was about to start storing tax returns, bank statement archives, and other very sensitive data on it. I didn't want him having any access, period.
[03:25] <SupaYoshi> but for clonezilla my system needs to be offline and boot from a livecd correct?
[03:26] <daftykins> SupaYoshi: so consider using rsync for data more regularly, but a full disk image less regularly - if you insist on having one.
[03:26] <ke4nhw> But thanks for helping me figure that out. I've got root password changed, and still logged in as the base user. Again, the way I deal with management most of the time.
[03:26] <daftykins> i'm not so sure on the efficacy of having a disk image created from within the running OS
[03:26] <SupaYoshi> daftykins, cool.
[03:26] <SupaYoshi> I have data backups already of course.
[03:26] <SupaYoshi> cool. :)
[03:26] <SupaYoshi> thanks.
[03:26] <daftykins> but you need to update them, surely
[03:27] <daftykins> ke4nhw: *nod* fair enough
[03:27] <ke4nhw> Only rarely do I do root work on a tty, and only when the amount of time spent id'ing sudo would add unnecessarily to the work. And then only extremely carefully
[03:27] <ke4nhw> Again, maybe once or twice a year, on a busy year
[03:27] <nbrecht01> If you REALLY wanted to use rsync to do backups, you could set it up with cron to run every once and a while. (eg. Once a week)
[03:27] <ke4nhw> Most of the time, a few commands are easy enough to string together, script, and then auth
[03:28] <ke4nhw> on the rsync issue, it works very well with cron in that fashion
[03:28] <ke4nhw> it's excellent for backups, and it's even good for pushing images to multiple other servers (mirrors) if you script it and cron the script
[03:29] <ke4nhw> Kind of a hack, but can work in a pinch
[03:30] <ke4nhw> I am configuring that same setup to push radio configuration data files to multiple remote sites to prevent the need to actually visit those sites to run radio programming.
[03:31] <daftykins> i think what was being asked was whether rsync was appropriate for full disk imaging backups though
[03:31] <jjls> hi. why should I use ubuntu as opposed to other distros?
[03:32] <nbrecht01> You might want to pipe the output of 'rsync' int 'tar' to archive it. (If you can do that)
[03:33] <daftykins> jjls: you try it and you like it... not for us to tell you otherwise.
[03:33] <shuaizi> my computer has met a problem,the screen is flickering when i login with desktop environment,anyone can help me?
[03:33] <nbrecht01> Reasons to use ubuntu: 1) Large Software Base, 2) Large Support Base, and 3) We have this IRC site to talk about it ;)
[03:34] <AlexQ> How can I purge & reinstall the entire GTK suite?
[03:34] <nbrecht01> shuaizi: Is your screen refresh rate set correctly?
[03:34] <AlexQ> And preferably Xfce Windows manager
[03:35] <shuaizi> yes
[03:35] <nbrecht01> AlexQ: 'sudo apt-get purge gtk*'. Why do you want to?
[03:36] <nbrecht01> shuaizi: Do you have the color mode at the higets setting?
[03:36] <nbrecht01> shuaizi: Do you have the color mode at the highest setting?
[03:44] <nbrecht01> shuaizi: Does the screen flicker if you switch to a different TTY? (Ctl+Alt+F2)
[03:52] <kernelhack> what happened in here?
[03:55] <nbrecht01> shuaizi: Anything on that screen issue?
[03:56] <VictoriaXOXO> nitish: TJ-: Nothing even REMOTELY close to Premiere Pro.
[03:56] <nitish> TJ-: for example?
[03:56] <VictoriaXOXO> nitish: kdenlive, but it's ****.
[03:56] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: nothing that costs that much either
[03:56] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: XD
[03:57] <nitish> VictoriaX0X0: what is meaning of *****?
[03:57] <VictoriaXOXO> nitish: A bad word that starts with s and ends with hit. :P
[03:58] <TJ-> nitish: There are a lot of NLEs from the open-source community, it's a long while since I coded for them I can't even recall the name of the one I contributed most to!
[04:00] <ke4nhw> Well that was fun
[04:00] <TJ-> oh, OpenShot. There's also a Linux port of Lightworks. Blender is very good too, although targeted at 3D rendering mostly
[04:00] <SupaYoshi> nbrecht01 and ke4nhw, can you give me an example of an rsync image backup?
[04:00] <SupaYoshi> and does it do grub too?
[04:00] <TJ-> nitish: there's a good summary of the state of NLEs here: http://www.zdnet.com/article/non-linear-video-editing-software-open-source-alternatives-to-abobe-premiere-pro-cc/
[04:00] <SupaYoshi> and mbr?
[04:00] <nbrecht01> Hmmm.. What do you mean?
[04:01] <nitish> TJ-: Thanks for the link.
[04:01] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: rsync does not, cannot, 'do' disk image backup, it only handles files in a file-system
[04:01] <SupaYoshi> well, i want to make an image / full system backup of my os
[04:01] <SupaYoshi> okay.
[04:01] <ke4nhw> not sure about the mbr I don't think so. It deals with the files. That would be an image
[04:01] <ke4nhw> You'd have to image the whole disk to get the mbr if I'm not mistaken
[04:01] <SupaYoshi> i want a os backup that i can restore in case my os hdd crashses
[04:01] <SupaYoshi> and that be me.
[04:01] <SupaYoshi> should i just use clonezilla?
[04:02] <ke4nhw> I'd either use clonezilla or dd
[04:02] <SupaYoshi> dd?
[04:02] <ke4nhw> dd it to an iso, then you can restore from an iso to a full image
[04:02] <ke4nhw> man dd
[04:02] <SupaYoshi> can that run as a crontab
[04:02] <ke4nhw> and use it carefully
[04:02] <nbrecht01> If you want an ISO of your ENTIRE FILESYSTEM, run 'dd if=/dev/xxx of=muosbackup.iso', replacing xxx with your disk
[04:02] <SupaYoshi> and without rebooting?
[04:02] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: clonezilla will take a compressed back-up if I understand it correctly, whereas plain 'dd' won't 'compress' sparse blocks
[04:02] <ke4nhw> I'd script it but ues
[04:02] <ke4nhw> true
[04:02] <TJ-> nbrecht01: that isn't an ISO!
[04:03] <ke4nhw> dd is a perfectly 1:1 image
[04:03] <nbrecht01> You should probably do that from a LiveCD or something so you can unmount your OS disk first. (SOme files may be open, they will not be bakced up)
[04:03] <SupaYoshi> okay.
[04:03] <SupaYoshi> i see.
[04:04] <SupaYoshi> but if i have to shutdown anyway
[04:04] <SupaYoshi> clonezilla is easy enough
[04:04] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: it's possible to tell 'dd' to recognise sparse blocks, but it won't always give any benefit
[04:04] <ke4nhw> You can dd from one /dev to another, from one /dev to a file (like an .iso), or even use it to wipe a hdd. It's a powerful tool, and a dangerous one
[04:04] <nbrecht01> Do not forget to use 'sudo', you need it to back up system files.
[04:04] <ke4nhw> Another problem with dd:
[04:05] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: if you want to image a live system, best way is to have the installed system using LVM, and take an LVM snapshot of the OS root file-system and then image that, rather than the live root file-system
[04:05] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: No more up to date articles like that one?
[04:05] <nitish> how can I install lightworks?
[04:05] <TJ-> ke4nhw: you can use 'cp' to wipe a disk - 'dd' isn't any more dangerous. The danger comes from users not understanding the tool before they start using it
[04:05] <SupaYoshi> TJ- i think i have that? http://pastebin.com/vbPTDtmw
[04:06] <LambdaComplex> TJ-: btrfs supports file system images, doesn't it?
[04:06] <ke4nhw> If you image a hdd with bad sectors it could pick them up, or with corrupted data it'll record it faithfully. Or if you image a good hdd and then later restore the image to a hdd with bad sectors it will find itself trying to deal with that problem. Again, it is a 1:1 including blank space or sparse sectors.
[04:07] <nbrecht01> If you just want to back up your home dir or something, just use 'cp' to copy it. only use 'dd' isf you are copying something with a boot sector or something that will not show up as a file.
[04:07] <TJ-> LambdaComplex: yes, but there are still bugs being worked out of it especially with compression and cloning so its not widely used as yet
[04:07] <ke4nhw> And yes, cp is just as dangerous, but it's best someone know that once you start a dd, if you didn't pay attention to the order of if= of= then it could get ugly
[04:07] <LambdaComplex> TJ-: quite true
[04:08] <TJ-> ke4nhw: right, but my point is "sodu cp /dev/sda /dev/sdb" is no more unsafe and easy to do
[04:08] <nitish> Any racing game for ubuntu?
[04:08] <SupaYoshi> TJ-, i think i have LVM system when i installed it back in 2013.
[04:08] <SupaYoshi> do i? http://pastebin.com/vbPTDtmw?
[04:08] <TJ-> ke4nhw: note the intentional mispelling :)
[04:09] <LambdaComplex> TJ-: does cp even work like that?
[04:09] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: yes, it seems you do, so a snapshot of the HOMESRV/vg-root LV would allow you to image it
[04:09] <TJ-> LambdaComplex: of course
[04:09] <nbrecht01> Yes, it does. (Everything is a File)
[04:09] <TJ-> LambdaComplex: 'cp' takes any 'file' like entity, and /dev/sdX is a file as far as the kernel is concerned
[04:10] <ke4nhw> Which is back to root. I'll be the first to tell you that if a regular has full admin rights through sudo, they can do just as much damage as root, albeit a bit slower as they'll have to authenticate to do the damage. I can see the point of keeping inexperienced users away from root, and protecting root from bulldozing, but the admin users have the same power as root, unless the sudoer file
[04:10] <ke4nhw> has been sufficiently edited (which can only be done by root).
[04:10] <LambdaComplex> TJ-: EVERYTHING IS A FILE
[04:10] <TJ-> LambdaComplex: no, it isn't
[04:10] <TJ-> some things *look* like files though :)
[04:10] <LambdaComplex> okay, everything exists on the file system
[04:10] <LambdaComplex> better? >.>
[04:10] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: No more up to date articles like that one?
[04:11] <TJ-> LambdaComplex: that's better :D ... the difference is *some* 'files' don't support file operations such as 'seek'
[04:11] <SupaYoshi> TJ- nbrecht01, thanks!
[04:11] <ke4nhw> true, everything is represented as a "file" in the filesystem, but not everything is a true file
[04:11] <nbrecht01> The Linux kernel treats EVERYTHING as a file. Even your network card is a file a far as Linux is concerned!
[04:11] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: I don't know; use your favorite search engine. March 2014 is pretty recent in terms of the development speed of NLEs though
[04:11] <SupaYoshi> so. running that command you passed there earlier is a good way?
[04:12] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: I'm not finding anything. :(
[04:12] <LambdaComplex> TJ-: I should write a script to grab lines from /dev/urandom and /dev/js0 to make it even more random
[04:12] <ryao-phone> I do not think the Nic is considered a file.
[04:12] <ryao-phone> At least, I do not know what it would be in /dev.
[04:12] <nitish> Problem in confuiguring cyberoam in ubutnu?
[04:12] <TJ-> ryao-phone: nbrecht01 ^^^ correct
[04:12] <SupaYoshi> dd if=/dev/xxx of=muosbackup.iso
[04:12] <nitish> how to use cyberoam in ubuntu?
[04:13] <nbrecht01> The hardware is nao a file, but look in /dev. The Kernel communicates with it through a device 'file'
[04:13] <ke4nhw> the NIC isn't a file, but it is represented as a file. Even the contents of the running memory is represented as a file
[04:13] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: why are you setting the target filename to <something>.iso ? You're not writing an ISO9660 file-system, which is what .iso implies
[04:13] <SupaYoshi> TJ-, nbrecht01, would dd if=/dev/mapper/HOMESRV--vg-root of=muosbackup.iso
[04:13] <SupaYoshi> do?
[04:13] <ke4nhw> he's right, it's how the kernel operates.
[04:14] <SupaYoshi> TJ-, because that was your example.
[04:14] <TJ-> nbrecht01: actually, no, the kernel uses socket operations only for network devices, there's no access via /dev/ or /sysfs/
[04:14] <SupaYoshi> i should just use .img?
[04:14] <ke4nhw> Your entire cdrom is not a file, it is a device. But there it is in the /dev directory
[04:14] <SupaYoshi> TJ-, nbrecht01, would dd if=/dev/mapper/HOMESRV--vg-root of=muosbackup.img
[04:14] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: oh, sorry! *slaps self*
[04:14] <SupaYoshi> lol its fine.
[04:14] <SupaYoshi> so is that a yes?
[04:15] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: yes, but 'dd' by default only reads in blocks fo 512 bytes so that would take a long while. Add the option "bs=100M" to use 100MB blocks, I sometimes use "bs=1G" when there's plenty of RAM
[04:15] <nbrecht01> Yes, if you wanted an backup image of /dev/mapper/HOMESERV--vg-root. Just make sure that 1) You have enough disk space, and 2) you have super user pirvleges.
[04:15] <SupaYoshi> cool!
[04:15] <ke4nhw> It doesn't become files until the partitions are mounted, and the actual data of the disk is made available, as files. This is why you can't browse a /dev/sda but you have to mount it first to a mount point, which makes the contents of that device available as a readable filesystem.
[04:16] <SupaYoshi> so risks in backing up a live system?
[04:16] <nbrecht01> You can restore an ISO with Disk Image Writer
[04:16] <nbrecht01> No, just that some files WILL NOT be backed up
[04:16] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: as I said, take an LV snapshot and use that as the source (if=) for dd, then delete the snapshot
[04:17] <ke4nhw> I'd recommend performing this action of backup while booted from a Live OS, so that all partitions of the hdd to be imaged are unmounted
[04:17] <SupaYoshi> TJ-, cool. so does, dd if=/dev/mapper/HOMESRV--vg-root of=muosbackup.img
[04:17] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[04:17] <SupaYoshi> make a snapshot?
[04:18] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: no, you need to use "lvcreate -s ..." to create a snapshot. See that page for both overview and specific examples of doing it
[04:18] <SupaYoshi> okay. if i need to use a live cd, i do not see the advantages over using clonezilla
[04:18] <SupaYoshi> okay.
[04:18] <SupaYoshi> and i make a backup of that snapshot
[04:18] <ke4nhw> similar concepts
[04:18] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: as long as you create snapshots and copy those, you'll be fine
[04:18] <SupaYoshi> and that snapshot can be restored to another ssd / hdd. if my hdd /sdd fails?
[04:18] <ke4nhw> clonezills is a live cd
[04:19] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: a snapshot is a 'freeze' of the file-system at a point in time
[04:19] <SupaYoshi> ke4nhw, yes. ^ and easy. why use dd and snapshots if you have clonezilla
[04:19] <SupaYoshi> yeah i know i work with vms. i didnt know it was possible to take a snapshot of an actual system though
[04:19] <ke4nhw> It's just another flavor of Linux. Maybe your experience will be better than mine, but I've always had bad results with clonezilla
[04:20] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: LV snapshots is how decent Linux systems provide an easy roll-back facility for upgrades and the like
[04:20] <ke4nhw> especially with the mbr
[04:20] <SupaYoshi> TJ-, cool.
[04:20] <ke4nhw> Hence I've always used dd when I need an image that comprehensive as to provide a complete rollback of the drive state.
[04:21] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: if you're going to want to back-up the boot-loader then you'll need to do additional, separate, steps too.
[04:21] <ke4nhw> Are you doing this with a physical host or are you working with a VM?
[04:21] <SupaYoshi> TJ-, thanks, I know enough, periodic backups with clonezilla is good enough for me than.
[04:21] <SupaYoshi> Easy too :)
[04:21] <Acerio> How do I get my OpenPGP fingerprint in 15.10? I am only familiar with earlier versions.
[04:21] <ke4nhw> A dumb question maybe but I run both
[04:21] <ke4nhw> and several of each
[04:22] <SupaYoshi> another question, i am currently on 12.04 LTS.
[04:22] <SupaYoshi> I am thinking to upgraed to 14.04 LTS
[04:22] <SupaYoshi> what do I loose if i upgrade?
[04:22] <SupaYoshi> installed software wise, and so?
[04:22] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: the partitioning scheme (MSDOS or GPT), the boot style (BIOS, UEFI, Coreboot), where GRUB has put its core.img, all those mean different actions are needed to save the boot config so as to have a bootable backup
[04:23] <TJ-> Acerio: same as earlier versions; 'gpg'
[04:23] <SupaYoshi> TJ-, yeah that is why i like clonezilla. I just looked for clonezilla that would likely be online
[04:23] <SupaYoshi> hehe
[04:23] <SupaYoshi> are there risks upgrading to 14.04?
[04:24] <ryao-phone> The short answer is yes
[04:24] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: if you've got system config customisations, those might confuse the upgrade scripts and require manual intervention. There may be a few packages that are no longer in the archives but that's unusual except for unmaintained stuff
[04:25] <hch> i have for first thing in my life get license for my own OS, which is ubuntu xfce4 with apache4 and mysql. I have it inc
[04:25] <ryao-phone> If the filesystem is corrupt, you upgrading will make a bad situation worse.
[04:26] <hch> where can i get a gui?
[04:26] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: the point of LTS<>LTS upgrades being supported is, the package .preinst .postinst scripts have been manually coded to handle any differences between the 12.04 and 14.04 package configurations, so for the most part it should work. Any changes requiring your later action will be reported to you, so don't ignore them
[04:26] <TSS> sudo apt-get intsall xfce
[04:26] <TSS> or sudo apt-get install gnome3
[04:27] <hch> but it a db now....
[04:27] <hch> sorry try now
[04:27] <TJ-> hch: 'ubuntu xfce4' - do you mean Xubuntu ?
[04:27] <TSS> are you just looking for a gui?
[04:27] <hch> yes xubuntu
[04:27] <lol> hi
[04:27] <TSS> what os do you have?
[04:27] <TJ-> hch: the 'GUI' is automatically installed and started when the system boots
[04:28] <Acerio> I still cannot figure out how to get a PGP key. With older versions of Ubuntu, it was MUCH easier
[04:28] <hch> it becasue i build in gigolo db
[04:29] <TSS> Sorry what? Are you saying you compiled your own OS?
[04:29] <TJ-> hch: hmmm, do you mean to ask for a GUI to manage the apache and mysql services?
[04:29] <hch> yes compile
[04:30] <ryao-phone> TSS: I do. :/
[04:30] <hch> i build that, and startet root with a db os, ive compile now
[04:30] <TSS> there are no gui's for apache or MySQL that I know of
[04:30] <Pinkamena_D> I have a laptop with currently 1 ssd with 1 primary windows partition and 1 extended partition with ubuntu. Works good with grub. I am installing an MSATA which I plan to move the windows partition to, and give more room for the ubuntu partition. Can I use grub to boot to the second drive, or must I use the bios to choose?
[04:30] <Acerio> Nevermind, I'll use command line.
[04:30] <ryao-phone> TSS: PHPMyAdmin
[04:31] <ryao-phone> TSS: CPanel
[04:31] <TJ-> hch: I'm afraid your question is not making much sense. Ubuntu doesn't require any compiling by users, the packages are all pre-compiled and linked binaries installed by the package manager, 'apt'.
[04:31] <hch> I list in c:\ then build a newone and get license, how do i buils that then?
[04:31] <ryao-phone> Are we being trolled?
[04:32] <inteus> lol
[04:32] <TJ-> hch: Whatever it is you're doing, it's clearly not an Ubuntu issue, and we only support Ubuntu issues here. Maybe they do things differently in Greenland?
[04:32] <hch> i think you are newbie...no because i have build it to a new linux without apache now.....
[04:33] <ryao-phone> what is "gigolo dub"?
[04:34] <ryao-phone> s/dub/db/
[04:34] <TSS> try ##linux
[04:34] <TJ-> ryao-phone: a promiscuous database maybe? :D
[04:34] <inteus> google doesn't come up with 'gigolo db'
[04:34] <hch> im inside linux yes
[04:35] <TJ-> hch: We only support Ubuntu issues here; anything else, please try other channels
[04:35] <TSS> type /join linux## and ask you question there
[04:35] <hch> TJ no its a ubuntu....
[04:35] <hch> TJ no its a ubuntu.... with a xfce4
[04:35] <TJ-> hch: you said you compiled something yourself. We don't support user-compiled code
[04:35] <TSS> The what is the problem?
[04:36] <tachyondecay> TJ-: Hey, I switched my SSD to AHCI mode and successfully installed Ubuntu alongside Windows without breaking Windows. Thanks for your help on Thursday and today!
[04:36] <ryao-phone> TJ-: Why do the repositories have GCC then?
[04:36] <hch> ooh my good, its because i will build another OS now with ubuntu linux kernel
[04:36] <TJ-> tachyondecay: Hey! That's fantastic to know. I'm sure we'll get other users with the same issue, I'll be sure to remember your experience
[04:37] <hch> i have something about a new os to start with
[04:38] <tachyondecay> TJ-: That topic on the forums was invaluable. I posted my particular experience there as well.
[04:38] <hch> someone told about after compile then?????
[04:38] <easyOnMe> hello
[04:38] <ryao-phone> hch: Google Linux From Scratch
[04:39] <inteus> hch: I'm not sure what you're asking. Maybe there's a language barrier here.
[04:39] <ryao-phone> I think that is what you want.
[04:39] <hch> i have seen it
[04:39] <easyOnMe> I have google chromium installed on my ubuntu as google chrome can not be installed on ubuntu
[04:39] <ryao-phone> Why can you not install chrome?
[04:39] <inteus> easyOnMe: Google Chrome can be installed on ubuntu
[04:39] <easyOnMe> how can I get the path where the chromium.sh is found
[04:39] <hch> you build me os then translate
[04:39] <easyOnMe> inteus: does it run well just like chromium
[04:40] <TJ-> ryao-phone: User's are free to do anything they want; but we cannot offer support for compiling specific projects, support here is for the standard Ubuntu installation and configuration
[04:40] <inteus> easyOnMe: chromium is just the open source version of chrome
[04:40] <hch> kipit
[04:40] <ryao-phone> TJ-: I assume that hello works builds are supported, right?
[04:40] <ryao-phone> Ugh... Autocorrect strikes again
[04:40] <TJ-> LOL *puzzled*
[04:41] <ryao-phone> s/works/world/
[04:41] <inteus> easyOnMe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome
[04:42] <SupaYoshi> okay making my backup now :) hehe
[04:42] <TJ-> ryao-phone: no, but depending on which helpers are around and how they're feeling they might choose to help out, but at that level the help needed is probably more on-topic in ##programming
[04:42] <easyOnMe> another thing is where do I get to see the php interpreter in my ubuntu laptop after I install it
[04:42] <easyOnMe> can anyone please help me
[04:43] <TJ-> easyOnMe: the command-line interpreter? something like "which php5" should help
[04:43] <easyOnMe> TJ-: have you use php before
[04:43] <easyOnMe> how can I upgrade my php5.6 to php7
[04:43] <TJ-> easyOnMe: Only when a gun is held to my head
[04:43] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: How do I go back from "(END)" in the terminal?
[04:43] <ryao-phone> TJ-: The Ubuntu community never ceases to amaze me in how limited its community support in IRC is. I am used to other distributions helping with the basics of things like compiling
[04:44] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: are you in the 'less' pager?
[04:44] <easyOnMe> TJ-: what the lol
[04:44] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: press 'q'
[04:44] <easyOnMe> has anyone tried using php7 here
[04:44] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: That worked! :D
[04:44] <ryao-phone> Anyway, I am beyond needing help with such things. :)
[04:44] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: to save yourself grief later: "man less"
[04:45] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: What do I do now? "Configuration file '/etc/issue'" "Configuration file '/etc/issue'==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:"
[04:45] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: I've never seen that message before and now I'm scared.
[04:45] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: look at the 'diff' decide if you need to keep your local version, or can accept the new package version
[04:46] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: what command did you use to get to that situation?
[04:46] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: That's what I did (D), but I couldn't translate it.
[04:46] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: "sudo apt-get upgrade" after installing kdenlive.
[04:46] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: I can't think what would need to change /etc/issue in the first place!
[04:47] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: So... do I mess anything up if I keep my current one?
[04:47] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: open a 2nd terminal and type "cat /etc/issue" and show us it
[04:47] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Okay.
[04:47] <TJ-> I'll be gone a few minutes; need a drink
[04:48] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr \n \l
[04:48] <easyOnMe> has anyone here tried php7
[04:49] <mgolisch> no
[04:49] <mgolisch> its still php..
[04:52] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Screw it. I choose O to keep it. Gave me errors, but I'm too sick to mess around right now. Hopefully nothing will break. :(
[04:53] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: well the existing version looks OK, but I suspect the change was to show the new 14.04.X point release
[04:54] <chadwin> hi guys an gals...
[04:54] <the_count> Bashing-om: I have news, if you are around at this unearthly hour
[04:54] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: for example, on a 14.04 system here it has "Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l"
[04:55] <TJ-> the_count: not seen him recently
[04:55] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Oh, okay. So keeping it or renewing it doesn't really matter that much? I didn't break anything now by keeping it?
[04:55] <the_count> TJ-: Ok
[04:55] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: no, the only thing is it under-reports the version number installed.
[04:56] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: But it won't mess with new updates/upgrades and such? I will still get all the latest stuff from the update manager?
[04:56] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: let me see if I can find the package that would want to update that, you could re-run it manually quite easily
[04:57] <the_count> TJ-: I don't know if you have been following my problem... But I just tuped in ' sudo service lightdm restart ' because my wifi stoped working as it does periodically, anyways, it was taking too long, so I reset the machine. Upon powering on, Graphics, mouse speed, everything had been returned to normal.. Strange I tell you
[04:57] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Thank you so much for helping, but we can leave it for NOW. I can't do much right now. :)
[04:58] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: the package the file belongs to is 'base-files' so possibly a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure base-files" would redo it
[04:58] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Okay, I will save that command on my desktop. :)
[04:58] <VictoriaXOXO> Thanks again.
[04:58] <TJ-> the_count: that sounds like a firmware glitch
[04:58] <the_count> TJ-: How's that?
[05:00] <TJ-> the_count: modern systems rely on the motherboard firmware (BIOS or UEFI), and in particular some functionality it provides/describes to the OS via ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface). ACPI in particular is a problem for Linux on some systems since the firmware programmers generally target it at Windows versions and don't provide full functionality to Linux
[05:01] <TJ-> the_count: additionally, sometimes that firmware gets itself confused by saving 'bad' parameters into its non-volatile memory. A machine reset can sometimes 'clear' that as an unintended side-effect
[05:01] <the_count> TJ-: That very well could be the case in this instance... But I am unsure how it could stay constant over multiple reboot
[05:02] <TJ-> the_count: if you do a 'clean' reboot the firmware saves config to its NV-RAM. If you hard reset, it never gets the chance to do that
[05:02] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: You do realize that people get PAID for spewing out much less detailed information? You do this for free? :P
[05:02] <the_count> TJ-: Could a reset cause the problem in the first place?
[05:03] <TJ-> the_count: it's always possible. One of the first things I recommend when there's unpredictable behaviour is to go into firmware setup and reset/load factory defaults
[05:03] <SupaYoshi> okay made the backup thnx guys :)
[05:03] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: don't forget to test it on a disposable system :)
[05:03] <TJ-> SupaYoshi: back-ups are no good unless they work
[05:03] <the_count> TJ-: Because I reset it when it was taking longer to power on than it should when Bashing-om was helping me earlier
[05:04] <the_count> VictoriaXOXO: They love doing it...
[05:04] <TJ-> the_count: who knows... software is complex, firmware is notoriously buggy in several respects, and is fire-and-forget (generally unmaintained) code
[05:04] <rypervenche> VictoriaXOXO: Probably the majority of us are here just to help. I don't even use Ubuntu.
[05:05] <VictoriaXOXO> rypervenche: What do you use?
[05:05] <the_count> TJ-: Where exactly can I find the firmware setup and reset/load the factory defaults?
[05:05] <TJ-> the_count: When the PC first powers on, there's usually a key press (Del, F2, F1 maybe) that starts the firmware setup
[05:06] <rypervenche> VictoriaXOXO: I'll PM you the response. No need to start anything off-topic.
[05:06] <the_count> TJ-: Oh... I thought you were talking about inside linux.
[05:06] <nlw> what's new
[05:06] <TJ-> the_count: no, BIOS or UEFI
[05:07] <the_count> TJ-: Got it, thanks
[05:07] <the_count> TJ-: What exactly is the issue with the BIOS vs UEFI thing... Not sure I ever fully understood it
[05:08] <nlw> control
[05:08] <TJ-> the_count: UEFI solves many of the issues that dogged BIOS for 20 years +
[05:09] <the_count> TJ-: Security being the largest, I guess/
[05:10] <TJ-> the_count: no, the largest is a decent extensible design where the user can load device drivers before any OS has started.
[05:10] <TJ-> the_count: also, having a boot-manager built in to avoid the stupid problems of OSs over-writing each others boot-loaders on the boot device
[05:11] <the_count> TJ-: Ok, Ok
[05:11] <FastOSlinux> boa noite
[05:11] <TJ-> the_count: availability of a very powerfull command-line shell, like bash
[05:11] <the_count> TJ-: Is this built into UEFI?
[05:11] <TJ-> the_count: yes
[05:12] <the_count> TJ-: How do you access it?
[05:13] <TJ-> the_count: some manufacturers don't include the module, or only provide a limited shell, but because UEFI is extensible you can load it yourself. The most used shell comes from Intel's open-source Tianocore EFI Dev Kit v2 (EDK2) and is called shellx64.efi
[05:14] <TJ-> the_count: I install it in the EFI-SP by default. You can get it from the Tainocore project at http://sourceforge.net/p/tianocore/edk2/ci/dd805dfd04535b9820be03f8402f8ee48457790b/tree/ShellBinPkg/UefiShell/X64/Shell.efi
[05:15] <TJ-> the_count: I generally rename it on a fixed disk install to the simple boot-path /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI so that if the boot manager loses/forgets/deletes the installed OSs the system will auto-boot to that shell, where things can be repaired
[05:16] <ogz> hi, is xfce much faster than unity. I have a 2GB ram laptop, that is also made for 64 bit. Should i go for 32 / 64 bit and xfce or unity
[05:16] <the_count> TJ-: Wow, I didn't realize this even existed, what type of things can you do with it as per system administration/fixing up systems, etc...
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> The upgrade needs a total of 92.5 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 41.0 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> if i do this will i be unable to boot
[05:17] <azizLIGHT> i use luks encrypted LVM partitions
[05:17] <TJ-> the_count: access, read/write to file systems, add/edit UEFI boot menu entries, manually load other EFI modules (e.g. device drivers I mentioned earlier), and generally everything you need in an emergency situation. It has tools for examining memory and many other functions
[05:18] <the_count> TJ-: So, say I need a driver for Windows, but cannot install it, may I load it with this?
[05:19] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: sounds like the PC has a separate /boot/ file-system that has filled up with older kernel versions. You might want to identify those "dpkg -l 'linux-image*' " and remove the older ones
[05:19] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: if i remove those images, will grub be rebuilt properly so that i can actually boot? how do i ensure this
[05:20] <TJ-> the_count: no; the drivers are firmware drivers, so for example the system may have a special adapter plugged into one of its PCIe ports that the motherboard firmware doesn't know how to work, so you could load a driver provided by the device maker and you'd be able to access it, maybe boot from it
[05:20] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: The idea is to keep the last 2 known good kernel versions, but if there's say 8 kernels installed remove the oldest 6
[05:21] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: ive done this before and i was unable to dual boot anymore.
[05:21] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: so what precautions should i take
[05:21] <the_count> TJ-: How are these loaded typically, the firmware drivers?
[05:21] <TJ-> the_count: if you want to know more see http://www.uefi.org/about/
[05:22] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: i removed old kernel images, and when grub config was rebuilt with remaining kernel images, for some reason, windows was not detected and was not added to the boot menu in grub, and i had to do research to figure out how to fix it (none of which i saved unfortunately)
[05:22] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: removing older kernels won't affect dual-boot. As I said, you don't remove the known-good currently booting kernel version.
[05:22] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: would it affect dual-boot because of luks
[05:23] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: discovery of other OSes is done by os-prober, which is called by GRUB's /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober script.
[05:23] <azizLIGHT> i see
[05:24] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: disabling os-prober is generally achieved by adding "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true" to /etc/default/grub. Other than that, it should run. This all assumes the devices with the other OS are available of course
[05:24] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: if you have some time, can you check this diff of grub.cfg. the original is where i couldnt dual boot, and the new one is where eveything works properly: https://www.diffchecker.com/hasdolhn
[05:24] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: you can call it manually to test "sudo os-prober" to be sure Windows is discovered
[05:25] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Since you seem to know everything (not trying to be rude), do you know of some easy way to automatically close Firefox (or any browser) as soon as the VPN connection fails? Like a kill switch?
[05:25] <azizLIGHT> im not sure why efi.signed is not there in those filenames?
[05:25] <azizLIGHT> among other differences in between those files
[05:25] <azizLIGHT> what happened that i got that file
[05:25] <azizLIGHT> instead of the one on the right
[05:26] <the_count> TJ-: One last question, With this shell, or even, grub may be a better option, can you make them redetect the operating systems currently installed?
[05:26] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: look at line 289-290
[05:26] <azizLIGHT> theres nothing there
[05:26] <azizLIGHT> for os prober
[05:26] <azizLIGHT> (on the left)
[05:27] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: notice that 30_os-prober ran but didn't insert anything, which infers the OS signature couldn't be found for some reason
[05:28] <azizLIGHT> this is what im trying to avoid. why would this happen and how do i prevent it? id liketo learn enough about this to understand it myself
[05:28] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: you'd have to dig deeper on the system to figure out why that happened, but as the system appears to be UEFI, the mobo boot-manager should be handling the boot menu operation
[05:28] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: do you mean to say i should not use grub for the dual boot
[05:28] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: like, use seperate hdds for each os?
[05:29] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: I wouldn't, since one of the major improvements UEFI delivers is to have it manage the boot menu and not have the OSs fighting over that
[05:29] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: no, you don't need separate drives
[05:30] <azizLIGHT> hmm interesting
[05:31] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: the way UEFI works is, it expects to find an EFI System Partition on the boot device, which is a relatively small (<512MB) FAT16/32 file-system, containing EFI exectuables installed by each OS that wants boot services. Those OSs also add an entry to the UEFI Boot Menu so the firmware boot manager can offer the OS choice itself, and load the correct OS EFI boot manager code from the EFI-SP, which
[05:31] <TJ-> then goes on to load the remainder of the OS
[05:32] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: using that system, GRUB only needs to 'worry' about the Linux kernels for the distro it was installed from
[05:32] <azizLIGHT> ahhhhhh
[05:32] <azizLIGHT> i see what you mean now
[05:32] <azizLIGHT> so does ubuntu offer EFI executuables to UEFI?
[05:32] <TJ-> The Linux kernel can be booted directly as n EFI exectuable too, so soon we'll be able to do away with GRUB
[05:33] <azizLIGHT> is this not common today?
[05:33] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: correct, on an UEFI system the grub-efi packages are installed, which include files to be put in the EFI-SP
[05:33] <azizLIGHT> very interesting
[05:34] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: not as yet; there's a lot of legacy stuff to deal with and inertia, but its possible and some distros do provide tools to install that way
[05:36] <azizLIGHT> earlier i mentioned individual os on seperate hdds. i read that people do this to avoid dual booting via grub or having another OS takever boot records
[05:36] <azizLIGHT> this was for before UEFI i think
[05:36] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: that was the issue for BIOS firmware; UEFI in EFI mode doesn't suffer that
[05:37] <TJ-> for UEFI in CSM/legacy mode (Compatibility Support Module) the same can apply
[05:37] <azizLIGHT> what happens if you have multiple drives under UEFI? does only 1 hdd need the EFI executables for OS which may or maynot be on the same hdds?
[05:37] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: as long as the EFI-SP has space, you can install OSs that all have separate, non-conflicting, boot loaders
[05:38] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: correct, there only needs to be 1 EFI-SP on the primary disk
[05:38] <TJ-> azizLIGHT: that doesn't prevent putting one on another disk, the boot menu entries store the path to the device the boot loader EFI executable is on
[05:39] <azizLIGHT> hmmm
[05:39] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: You don't know? :(
[05:40] <azizLIGHT> i could go on asking questions, ill stop now heh
[05:40] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: don't know what?
[05:40] <azizLIGHT> TJ-: i appreciate all your answers, thank you very much
[05:40] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Since you seem to know everything (not trying to be rude), do you know of some easy way to automatically close Firefox (or any browser) as soon as the VPN connection fails? Like a kill switch?
[05:40] <azizLIGHT> VictoriaXOXO: ive seen that sort of stuff on google
[05:41] <azizLIGHT> i dont know if theres an easy way
[05:41] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: you'd need to start FF from a wrapper script that kept tabs on the VPN status, but why would you want to close the browser?
[05:42] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: I don't want to miss the VPN disconnecting and then continue to surf with my regular ISP. :(
[05:42] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: oh, well that's easy to prevent
[05:42] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: simply don't assign a default gateway for the network connection, so there's no default route in the kernel's routing table.
[05:43] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: when the VPN comes up it'd add a default route into its tunnel, and when the tunnel closes the default route would be removed, leaving the PC unable to do default routing
[05:44] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Hmmmmm. I'm not entirely sure I understand, but I'm saving everything you just said.
[05:44] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: that'd just require a specific manual route in the routing table for the VPN's public endpoint so the PC could connect to it and create the VPN to begin with, of course :)
[05:44] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: I could explain it in 30 seconds on a whiteboard; on IRC we'd probably need 30 minutes :)
[05:45] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Oh, darn it. :P
[05:45] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Japanese to me, I'm afraid.
[05:45] <cimbakahn> Hello!
[05:46] <cimbakahn> I can't find anyone at #lubuntu. Can i get help here?
[05:46] <nill> nilesh
[05:46] <nill> hii
[05:47] <cimbakahn> Hello!
[05:57] <cimbakahn> I can't find anyone at any of the lubuntu rooms. Can i get help here?
[05:59] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: rough whiteboard diagram: http://imgur.com/TsREQsu
[06:00] <robotics_> hello everyone, need your help in resolving a question. In Ubuntu when a program is installed (i can see it in the main searching window) if later i want to change it's location path where should make changes in order it stays visible in that searching window?
[06:00] <robotics_> excuse me for my poor English :(
[06:01] <cimbakahn> I don't know.
[06:01] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Oh?! You did it! :D
[06:02] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: Okay, I'm saving that baby. Need time to decipher it. ;)
[06:02] <TJ-> VictoriaXOXO: it needs some explanation but my hand got tired (my whiteboard is on a wall/ceiling join and the dogs were in the way) :)
[06:03] <debug0x1> #dns
[06:03] <zachoooo> Can someone take a look at my bash script. I included the error at the bottom: http://pastebin.com/KhLBViDk
[06:03] <debug0x1> #powerdns
[06:03] <debug0x1> oops
[06:03] <zachoooo> On my script I plan on replacing those numbers with 90
[06:04] <zachoooo> So I can see if my disk usage is over 90%
[06:04] <cimbakahn> I am looking at this page, and i am confused ----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[06:04] <cimbakahn> I am looking for something in between the bare minimum install and the full install. And i want a graphical installer. Can anyone help?
[06:04] <cimbakahn> Which download do i click on?
[06:04] <VictoriaXOXO> TJ-: I'll pester you about it some other night after looking at it some more.
[06:05] <TJ-> zachoooo: "if" not "If"
[06:05] <cimbakahn> I also want the newest one.
[06:05] <zachoooo> TJ, case sensitive?
[06:05] <TJ-> zachoooo: yes
[06:05] <TJ-> zachoooo: see "man bash"
[06:05] <zachoooo> Otherwise does it look correct?
[06:07] <TJ-> zachoooo: No, your use of ${varname::-XXXX} is wrong. I think you meant to use ${varname:-XXXX}
[06:09] <TJ-> zachoooo: you could also lose the need for 'tail -n 1' by doing " | awk '{V=$5}END{print V}' " I think (you want the last line)
[06:09] <mathi>
[06:10] <zachoooo> TJ, the script for removing the percentage sign seems to work and it seems to be capturing the correct part. What would changing it to that do?
Which download do i click on? <<<<< download http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/lubuntu-core and once that is installed run /sudo apt-get update, and /sudo apt-get upgrade. after that run/sudo apt-get xfce.
[06:11] <VictoriaXOXO> TSS: If he uses webchat, he won't get a notification when you type his nick like that.
[06:11] <azizLIGHT> ive got nvidia-352 installed from graphics-drivers ppa, i noticed the ppa also has nvidia-358. how come i dont have this?
[06:11] <cimbakahn> sudo apt-get xfce ? You mean for the Xfce desktop?
[06:11] <TSS> how should I put his name then?
[06:11] <cimbakahn> I wanted LXDE.
[06:11] <VictoriaXOXO> TSS: Nevermind. He saw it.
[06:11] <TSS> yes cim
[06:11] <TJ-> zachoooo: your -gt tests might be tripped up by the % sign too. You can lose the entire use of awk/tail with "xxxx=$(df --output=pcent /home)" too
[06:12] <zachoooo> I removed the percentage sign
[06:12] <TJ-> zachoooo: Ohhh! the ::- is the search/replace ?
[06:12] <TSS> run /sudo purge xfce, and then run/sudo apt-get lxde
[06:12] <zachoooo> TJ that part just strips the last character
[06:12] <zachoooo> So 6% becomes 6, 60% becomes 60
[06:13] <VictoriaXOXO> cimbakahn: Yes, follow what TSS told you to do. That's what I would've done.
[06:13] <TJ-> zachoooo: right, I didn't relise you were doing the :offset:length
[06:14] <TSS> oops. sorry to get rid of xfce un the folling command /sudo aptitude purge xfce4 desktop-base exo-utils gtk2-engines-xfce libexo-1-0 libexo-common
[06:14] <zachoooo> The script seems to be working. I'm just a total noob so I don't want to make some major mistake and reduce my dedi to nothing ness
[06:15] <TJ-> zachoooo: if you're monitoring for space, you might want to monitor the inodes too
[06:15] <zachoooo> Forgive me, but what is that?
[06:15] <TJ-> zachoooo: not unusual for a FS to run out of inodes with lots of small files, yet have plenty of space
[06:16] <TJ-> zachoooo: "df --output=ipcent"
[06:17] <zachoooo> It looks like the inodes are linked to files. So I have to delete more files if the inodes fill up as well?
[06:18] <TJ-> zachoooo: yes, generally if you expect a lot of smaller files on larger file-systems its worth setting the inode total to a larger than default value when creating the file-system
[06:19] <cimbakahn> amd64 or i386 I have a 64bit computer.
[06:20] <zachoooo> I see. I did not create the file system, nor am I expecting an unusually large number of small files. It's just a game server for me and my friends. It has CS:GO, Gmod, Minecraft, Team speak, and a seedbox on it.
[06:20] <zachoooo> Jeez maybe I should have gone with windows, but then again this is cheaper and I'm learning how to use linux
[06:21] <TJ-> zachoooo: should be OK then, but when monitoring it helps to monitor everything that could cause issues. We see a lot of users reporting mystery 'no space' messages but got plenty of space left in the FS, and it turns out to be inodes are exhausted
[06:21] <cimbakahn> product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz
[06:22] <cimbakahn> amd64 or i386 I have a 64bit computer.
[06:22] <zachoooo> I see. I wish there was a system that already had the monitoring built in and just sent you an email if anything is unusual
[06:22] <TJ-> zachoooo: there probably is! Debian/Ubuntu have something like 30,000+ packages in thei archives, they cover almost everything you could imagine
[06:24] <zachoooo> TJ, most of the stuff I see is a script just like what i setup. It is not an apt-get package that does anything beyond that.,
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: whats your issue?
[06:29] <TJ-> !info durep | zacc
[06:29] <cimbakahn> Which install do i choose? amd64 or i386 I have a 64bit computer.
[06:29] <cimbakahn> product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6600 @ 2.20GHz
[06:29] <TJ-> cimbakahn: how much RAM does the PC have?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: 64bit ubuntu if your architecture is 64bit
[06:30] <cimbakahn> 4GB
[06:30] <TJ-> cimbakahn: amd64
[06:30] <cimbakahn> Thank you!
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: and you can choose LTS for a stable experience
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> !lts > cimbakahn
[06:31] <cimbakahn> Why does the buntu sites have to be so confusing?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: are you kidding?
[06:31] <TJ-> cimbakahn: because there are lots of choices
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: ubuntu is very easy to use
[06:32] <TJ-> cimbakahn: what's correct for you might not be for someone else
[06:32] <BlastRed> HI
[06:32] <cimbakahn> Wily is supposed to be LTS, yes?
[06:32] <BlastRed> is anyone online? i am in need of assistance.
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: no
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> ask your issue mate BlastRed
[06:32] <intent> I looked in /etc/passwd and there are a ton of users. I thought we had done a minimal impression so I am surprised by some of them - are users like "games, news, irc, landscape" necessary or can I delete them, and is there a way to find out what users should be there?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: read the LTS trigger
[06:33] <BlastRed> I need help with formatting a disk; i have accidentally burned a wrong thing on it. any way i can format it with terminal? as it doesnt let me in disks
[06:33] <BlastRed> i can easily do this with windows; but i cant at the moment :/
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: 14.04.3 is latest LTS
[06:34] <cimbakahn> LTS trigger?
[06:34] <TJ-> intent: those 'users' are system accounts pre-defined for various services, to ensure those services don't need to run as root
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> BlastRed: want to format a harddisk from terminal
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !lts | cimbakahn
[06:35] <BlastRed> not the hard disk, just a disk i put in my computer :0
[06:35] <BlastRed> :I
[06:35] <TJ-> BlastRed: 'burned' to a disk? what kind of disk?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> cd?dvd?minidisc>?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> floppy?
[06:35] <BlastRed> i think i meant to say disc? its just a normal 4.7 gb disc i burned something on i want to format and remove :^I
[06:35] <cimbakahn> trusty?
[06:36] <TJ-> BlastRed: so, a rewritable DVD?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: yes, would be a good choice, if you want long time support
[06:36] <BlastRed> si
[06:36] <BlastRed> Yes.
[06:36] <cimbakahn> I thought they had a newer LTS.
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: xenial is comming in april 2016
[06:36] <BlastRed> Oh yeah. Yes TJ-
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !dvd | BlastRed
[06:37] <TJ-> BlastRed: see "man dvd+rw-format"
[06:37] <BlastRed> i put that interminal?
[06:37] <BlastRed> ubottu: haha... thats not what i meant...
[06:38] <TJ-> !growisofs | BlastRed this package contains dvd+rw-format
[06:38] <TJ-> !info growisofs | BlastRed this package contains dvd+rw-format
[06:38] <BlastRed> Ok.
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: +1 tool
[06:38] <BlastRed> Whats the diffference, TJ-
[06:38] <TJ-> BlastRed: difference between what?
[06:39] <intent> TJ-: thanks
[06:39] <cimbakahn> I here there are 3 lubuntu. A bare minimum one. The full install. And one in between.
[06:39] <BlastRed> TJ-: the two growisofs
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: it all depends what you want to do?
[06:39] <cimbakahn> What is the one called that is in between? I just want to be sure.
[06:40] <TJ-> BlastRed: I mistyped and so the 'bot didn't auto-describe the package, the first time
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: if you want to test lubuntu, just use regular install not minimal
[06:40] <BlastRed> i put what you said in terminal and i got: bash: !info: event not found
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | cimbakahn
[06:40] <BlastRed> sorry if im not listening correctly im fairly new to ubuntu
[06:41] <TJ-> BlastRed: no, that's not for the terminal, that was for here in IRC
[06:41] <TJ-> BlastRed: see "man dvd+rw-format"
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> BlastRed: without the quotes "
[06:41] <TJ-> BlastRed: THATS for the terminal, if you have the 'growisofs' package installed
[06:41] <BlastRed> Okay i see it...
[06:41] <BlastRed> i ... am still lost :/
[06:42] <cimbakahn> It reads: A full install includes all the packages which are shipped by default with the standard Lubuntu installation; such as web browsers, mail clients and office programs. Lubuntu minimal and core contains a more stripped-down graphical environment. So there are 3 of them.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> BlastRed: you can install packages with: sudo apt-get install your-package-name
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: ask yourself what you really want?
[06:42] <BlastRed> lotuspsychje: i know
[06:42] <TJ-> BlastRed: you asked how to re-format a DVD re-writable. I gave you the manual page of the tool to do that
[06:42] <pankaj> hih
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: minimal is a more expert install that most users dont need
[06:43] <BlastRed> TJ-: i know it doesnt make sense terminal is confusing to me haha... :^|
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> pankaj: welcome, how can we assist you?
[06:44] <TJ-> BlastRed: Linux is all about having the power of the terminal, and the shell, at your command
[06:44] <BlastRed> yeah
[06:44] <cimbakahn> Since it reads A full install, minimal and core, there are 3. I want the one in the middle.
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: again, ask yourself why you want that?
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: for most users the full install is reccomended
[06:45] <cimbakahn> Because most OSes come with a bunch of programs i don't want.
[06:45] <BlastRed> 'mint@mint ~ $ dvd+rw-format -force /dev/sr0 * BD/DVD�RW/-RAM format utility by <[email protected]>, version 7.1. :-( mounted media doesn't appear to be DVD�RW, DVD-RAM or Blu-ray
[06:45] <BlastRed> ??? what did i do wrong?
[06:45] <cimbakahn> This way i can do my own.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: you can, but if you choose minimal you will encouter other problems you didnt expect
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: better choose full install, and uninstall packages you dotn wanna use
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> BlastRed: your on ubuntu mint?
[06:46] <BlastRed> yes.
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> !mint | BlastRed
[06:47] <BlastRed> ok
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> BlastRed: install an ubuntu version from topic mate
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> BlastRed: it will make you a nice experience
[06:47] <BlastRed> ok
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> BlastRed: i would reccomend ubuntu 14.04.3 desktop and try the tools TJ- suggested
[06:48] <BlastRed> i had that on my live cd
[06:48] <BlastRed> right now im on my live usb
[06:48] <TJ-> 'dvd+rw-mediainfo' will tell you what the media in the device is
[06:48] <cimbakahn> What about the one on this page ----> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lubuntu-desktop It doesn't look like it is too minimal, and it doesn't look like the full install either.
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: your diggint to deep mate, you browsing on 12.04 now
[06:49] <TJ-> cimbakahn: for pities sake, you could have installed the full image 30 times instead of worrying over which one :D
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: take our advise and choose a flavor and full install
[06:50] <cimbakahn> That page is for wily, (the newest).
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: its not
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: do you want stable and 5 years support, or 9 months support non-lts?
[06:53] <TJ-> cimbakahn: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS and choose the 'Standard PC', PC 64-bit option
[06:56] <cimbakahn> If i choose trusty, i'll be in the same boat that i am right now, and i don't want that. Trusty holds back too many things that i need.
[06:56] <TJ-> cimbakahn: OK, so choose the Wily image then!
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: define 'holds back'?
[06:58] <cimbakahn> Newer versions of programs that i absolutely need.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: you just told us you dont want many programs
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: now you want the latest ones?
[06:59] <cimbakahn> I realize that, but the ones i do use have to be certain versions, the newest.
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> cimbakahn: ok then choose wily as TJ- suggested
[07:06] <plumbus> noob question. there's a site for this package i want to install with a link that says PPA and links to a .deb file. what do i do to install it?
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | plumbus
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: what package are we talking about?
[07:08] <plumbus> lotuspsychje: https://bitbucket.org/rude/love/downloads/love_0.9.2ppa1_amd64.deb
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> !info love
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: this one? ^
[07:09] <plumbus> yeah
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: use sudo apt-get install love from your terminal
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: that will install the right version for your ubuntu version
[07:09] <plumbus> lotuspsychje: so it's not a ppa?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: the website can have ppa's yes to obtain latest packages
[07:10] <MrCeeIII> ok i cant sleep.... what we talking about?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: but its reccomended to use version for your ubuntu version
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | MrCeeIII
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: wich ubuntu version do you have?
[07:11] <MrCeeIII> i dont know how to change rooms
[07:11] <MrCeeIII> im a noob
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> MrCeeIII: type /join #yourchannel
[07:11] <plumbus> lotuspsychje: so let's say i wanted the latest one, what would i do? would i `apt-add-repository <debfile>` ?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: we dont support ppa's officially mate
[07:12] <MrCeeIII> how can i see what differnt channels are out here
[07:12] <TheRinger_> type /list
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> !alis | MrCeeIII
[07:12] <MrCeeIII> !alis
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[07:12] <MrCeeIII> that did nothing
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> MrCeeIII: read it first
[07:12] <MrCeeIII> huh
[07:13] <plumbus> lotuspsychje: i understand that ppas aren't `officially supported` but how would i use the command line to install the ppa?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> MrCeeIII: /msg alis list....
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: if you understand we dont support it, please dont ask howto
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: it can get your system in trouble
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !latest | plumbus
[07:15] <plumbus> lotuspsychje: i understand that it could screw my system, but i'm using a vm with snapshots. i guess i'll go somewhere else to ask the general question "how do i install a ppa package from a deb file?"
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: if you absolutely want a newer 'love' try ubuntu 15.10 or daily image 16.04
[07:15] <MrCeeIII> !alis ####testing
[07:15] <MrCeeIII> test
[07:15] <MrCeeIII> where am i
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: we dont support ppa's here, we have to follow the rules mate
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: maybe the ##linux guys can help, but you might hear the same that ppa's are at own risk
[07:16] <MrCeeIII> -alis ####testing
[07:16] <plumbus> k mate
[07:16] <MrCeeIII> where am i now
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | MrCeeIII
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> MrCeeIII: please dont spam text in this channel
[07:18] <MrCeeIII> how do i change channels
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> MrCeeIII: /join #freenode and ask there please
[07:20] <MrCeeIII> im learning here... how do i see a list of channels
[07:20] <plumbus> lotuspsychje: I have a feeling that he's a troll
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> MrCeeIII: dont use this channel for network questions
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> plumbus: good feeling :p
[07:21] <MrCeeIII> not a troll people just trying to learn somethings... i guess you aholes dont like helping people
[07:22] <plumbus> MrCeeIII: go away chesapoke
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> MrCeeIII: you need to learn in the right channel, this is ubuntu support
[07:22] <MrCeeIII> asking questions in freenode now.. thanks for nothing
[07:51] <lukas__> Hello.
[07:53] <fsociety> hi
[07:54] <Guest49033> ...
[08:24] <nitish> how can i ping a website?
[08:24] <TJ-> nitish: you can't.
[08:24] <Devaj> type ping <website>
[08:24] <TJ-> nitish: you can test whether an HTTP/S server responds, and you can 'ping' a host
[08:25] <Devaj> okay
[08:26] <nitish> TJ- how can I test that an http/s server responding or not with ping?
[08:27] <Devaj> why can't i connect to other irc servers?
[08:28] <TJ-> nitish: you can't. You can "ping 1.2.3.4" or "ping hostname.domain.tld" to test if a host will respond to ICMP requests. You can test an HTTP service on a host with something like "curl http://hostname.domain.tld/"
[08:29] <Devaj> you are nitish right?
[08:30] <Devaj> indian?
[08:38] <pers3us> nitish: Try telnet. http://www.esqsoft.com/examples/troubleshooting-http-using-telnet.htm
[08:38] <nitish> pers3us: ok. thanks
[08:45] <dfas> hi
[08:45] <nitish> How can I use screen saver in 14.04 lts?
[08:46] <SCHAAP137> !screensaver | nitish
[08:47] <nitish> SCHAAP137: is that mean there is no screensaver?
[08:47] <SCHAAP137> no, i thought the bot would have a story ready, but it doesn't
[08:48] <SCHAAP137> there is a screensaver built-in i believe
[08:48] <SCHAAP137> or you could use xscreensaver
[08:49] <SCHAAP137> i prefer xscreensaver, has some really cool presets
[08:49] <dfas> can anyone help me with this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/13440755/
[08:49] <SCHAAP137> the 'BSOD' one is great
[08:50] <nitish> SCHAAP137: there is no inbuilt screensave in 14.04. right now i am installing xscreensaver.
[08:50] <nitish> SCHAAP137: what is BSOD?
[08:50] <wmorri> dfas, is this an ubuntu problem?
[08:50] <pers3us> An OT question, which IRC clients do you guys prefer?
[08:51] <SCHAAP137> pers3us: i use Hexchat
[08:51] <SCHAAP137> nitish: one of the presets in xscreensaver, it shows fake crashes from different OSs
[08:51] <pers3us> SCHAAP137: It has ugly UI though :(
[08:51] <pers3us> I had to switch back to weechat ..
[08:51] <SCHAAP137> nitish: like bluescreen from windows, system errors from Mac OS, various UNIXes, etc
[08:52] <pers3us> nitish: Why do you need screensaver for? :)
[08:52] <SCHAAP137> pers3us: on my server without GUI, i use irssi
[08:52] <SCHAAP137> weechat is good as well i think, never used it
[08:52] <nitish> pers3us: Just for not to be boar when I am nothing doing in my ubuntu.
[08:53] <pers3us> i found it better than irssi..
[08:53] <pers3us> nitish: okay, you are using Unity right? IIRC it had some screensaver option.
[08:54] <SCHAAP137> nitish: after installation, put 'xscreensaver -no-splash' in your autostartup applications
[08:54] <SCHAAP137> there might already be another screensaver in there autostarting, you can disable & replace that one
[08:54] <pers3us> SCHAAP137: Unity has screensavers right?
[08:54] <nitish> SCHAAP137: I don't need auto startup of screen-saver.
[08:55] <SCHAAP137> nitish: for the daemon, otherwise it will not activate when idling
[08:55] <SCHAAP137> pers3us: yes i think so
[08:55] <SCHAAP137> pers3us: i use MATE here
[08:55] <pers3us> nitish: Is your Ubuntu a default install? Or have you changed something?
[08:56] <pers3us> SCHAAP137: E17 here :P
[08:58] <nitish> what is 'unity' command? I just used it and my system got hanged.
[08:59] <nitish> while downloading a package my system hanged and I had to shut it down focefully. now while I am tryping to install that package again I am getting this: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct problem.
[09:03] <wmorri> nitish, what were you downloading?
[09:04] <nitish> wmorri: its fixed by running this "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:05] <nitish> I just downloaded xscreensaver when i run it its gone and while i am trying to run it again its showing its running already. How can I change setting of it?
[09:05] <pers3us> nitish: you didn't answer my original query. Is your Ubuntu a default install? i.e. Unity?
[09:06] <nitish> pers3us: i didn't understand.
[09:06] <nitish> pers3us: I have dual boot. win 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04 lts.
[09:07] <nitish> i used to download mostly with terminal.
[09:07] <pers3us> nitish: Are you running the default Ubuntu UI?
[09:08] <pers3us> which I presume you are, then there should be an option of screensaver in there, and you don't have to download any package for that.
[09:08] <nitish> pers3us: Yes, currently I am using default UI. I changed it once while I had 12.10. now I forgotten how I did that.
[09:08] <nitish> pers3us: how can I change the default ui of ubuntu?
[09:09] <pers3us> nitish: Read up on Desktop Environments in Ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-kinds-of-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[09:12] <nitish> how can I set timing in xscreensaver?
[09:12] <hubbunny> hey lads, I'm trying to install barnyard2 alongside snort on ubuntu 14.04 but I'm running into an error thats looking for a daq.h file #include <daq.h> I'm unsure how to resolve can anyone help? Error in full: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13441202/
[09:13] <SCHAAP137> nitish: use xscreensaver-demo
[09:13] <SCHAAP137> it's a kind of control panel
[09:14] <pers3us> hubbunny: sudo apt-get install libdaq-dev
[09:14] <nitish> SCHAAP137: When I click on preview option its giving error.
[09:15] <kpz> i changed python version and software center dosen't work now
[09:15] <hubbunny> pers3us, thanks I'll try that
[09:15] <nitish> SCHAAP137: xscreensaver-demo is showing screensaver in only small screen. I need it in full screen.
[09:16] <hubbunny> pers3us, thanks a mill bro. I couldve sworn I tried that but anyway must not. cheers
[09:16] <pers3us> hubbunny: Pretty much every single such error has a dependent lib that you need to have in the system. so if it is "daq.h" look for "daq" in apt cache. apt-cache search daq
[09:16] <pers3us> hubbunny: happy to help :)
[09:16] <Madura> Hi, I bought a new laptop(DELL Latitude E5440) with genuine windows. I have created bootable pendrive with ubuntu 14.04 and installed ubuntu successfully and removed windows(I only want ubuntu). After installation I changed the boot sequence. after that I'm getting "No boot device found. Press any key to reboot the machine". how can I resolved this problem ?
[09:16] <hubbunny> pers3us, great a solid tip to remember for a n00b. thanks again.
[09:17] <pers3us> Madura: Do you have any external drive attached to your system? Also, what do you mean by you changed boot sequence
[09:17] <nitish> how can I stop a running application from terminal?
[09:18] <pers3us> nitish: ps -ef |grep <application-name-or-part of name>
[09:18] <pers3us> find the PID
[09:18] <pers3us> and sudo kill -9 pid
[09:19] <SCHAAP137> just Ctrl C to break/abort something works as well
[09:24] <Madura> Hi pers3us, No there is no any drives attached to my system
[09:25] <Madura> I'm sory, I was disconnected.
[09:25] <pers3us> Madura: What do you mean you modified boot sequence?
[09:26] <nitish> can I install twitter client?
[09:28] <msev-> what do i need installed so i can run this https://github.com/mrgilving/arduinoGPSNavigator/blob/master/images/bmp2hex.py
[09:29] <Madura> when restart my machine, I went to bios using f2 key, and I changed boot sequence by putting hard drive down and flash drive up
[09:29] <nitish> How can I install latest version of wine?
[09:33] <Madura> pers3us I have enabled lagacy option
[09:34] <pers3us> Madura: You have already installed Ubuntu right?
[09:34] <Madura> pers3us: Yes. it was successfully installed and shown a restart machine prompt
[09:35] <cfhowlett> !latest | nitish
[09:35] <pers3us> Madura: Hmm, if it is efi boot, I have no idea about it.
[09:36] <Madura> pers3us : when I restart machine when flash drive is pluged, its booting from flash drive and ask me to to reinstall it
[09:36] <nitish> ubottu: how can I install wine? ps: I know you are a bot. dot't tell me that again.
[09:37] <pers3us> Madura: Which is expected, as your first boot option is from flash drive. I guess the bootloader didn't install correctly.
[09:37] <pers3us> nitish: apt-cache search wine
[09:38] <Madura> pers3us : how can I fix this ?
[09:38] <pers3us> Madura: Boot using pendrive, then reinstall grub. See if that works.
[09:39] <pers3us> Madura: Terminal > sudo apt-get install grub && sudo update-grub
[09:40] <Madura> pers3us : OK. thanx, I'm tring it now. I will let you know the result. thanx again.
[09:41] <pers3us> Madura: Cool. I am around, let me know if it works
[09:41] <slicepaperwords> this might be more of an hp question, but does anyone know how to scan to computer? I cant figure it out
[09:41] <cfhowlett> slicepaperwords, xsane
[09:42] <pers3us> cfhowlett: Isn't there a default app for that in Ubuntu? :)
[09:42] <cfhowlett> pers3us, last I heard, xsane IS the default app, but it's possible that there's an HP linux app
[09:42] <TJ-> Madura: sounds to me like when you installed the OS to the fixed disk, you accidently installed the boot-loader to the USB device, rather than the fixed disk
[09:43] <Madura> TJ : when Im installing I gave 500mb to /boot , its in hard drive
[09:43] <pers3us> cfhowlett: oh, I wasn't aware it is xsane.
[09:44] <cfhowlett> pers3us, I could be wrong though ...
[09:44] <pers3us> cfhowlett: I am not sure either, never had a need of it.
[09:44] <Madura> pers2us : One thing to mention, ubuntu was installed within 3 to 5 min, is it possible ?
[09:45] <pers3us> Madura: Yes it is possible. But what do you mean u gave /boot 500mb
[09:45] <pers3us> did you partition a separate /boot ?
[09:45] <Madura> pers2us : yes. you are correct.
[09:46] <linocisco> hi all, any free hotel booking apps on cloud?
[09:47] <pers3us> Madura: Hmm. It shouldn't be a problem in default install though. It was a default install right, you just partitioned it?
[09:48] <pers3us> Madura: reboot using flash drive, and follow these steps.
[09:48] <pers3us> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:49] <Madura> pers2us : at first time I gave default install, but it was not work, then I partitioned it, gave 100GB for root, 300GB for home and 500mb for /boot
[09:49] <pers3us> Careful with the sudo grub-install step.
[09:49] <pers3us> Madura: What do you mean it didn't work?
[09:50] <Madura> pers2us : I got the same problem. then I went to install it again.
[09:50] <Madura> pers2us : after that I realized this is not a installation issue
[09:50] <Madura> pers2us : I have tried 3 times.
[09:51] <slicepaperwords> thank you cfhowlett, I couldnt get a decent scan with xsane but it led me to simple scan which was already installed and works
[09:51] <pers3us> Hmm, Madura, can you check this for me. follow steps here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[09:52] <cfhowlett> pers3us, perfect! happy2help!
[09:52] <pers3us> cfhowlett: tagging the wrong person :)
[09:53] <cfhowlett> pers3us, yep. tourettes/fat fingers. happy2help! slicepaperwords
[09:53] <slicepaperwords> pers3us, haha I was thinking that too
[09:53] <slicepaperwords> haha thanks cfhowlett
[09:54] <pers3us> cfhowlett: Any idea on UEFI boot? Madura here needs some help with booting issue.
[09:54] <EriC^^> pers3us: what's the problem?
[09:54] <EriC^^> Madura: ?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> pers3us, saw that. outside my limited area of "expertise"
[09:55] <TJ-> Madura: pers3us: not been following the issue; is the system UEFI? is it booting in UEFI mode? What make/model is the system?
[09:55] <simonepsp> hello everyone :) Someone uses Wimax on ubuntu? Since Network manager dropped its support to Wimax how can I connect to a network? Thanks
[09:56] <Madura> TJ : this is the issue, I bought a new laptop(DELL Latitude E5440) with genuine windows. I have created bootable pendrive with ubuntu 14.04 and installed ubuntu successfully and removed windows(I only want ubuntu). After installation I changed the boot sequence. after that I'm getting "No boot device found. Press any key to reboot the machine". how can I resolved this problem ?
[09:56] <EriC^^> Madura: boot a live usb
[09:56] <pers3us> EriC^^: The problem ^^
[09:57] <Madura> Eric : YES
[09:57] <EriC^^> Madura: try pressing esc while the pc boots and see if you can get a uefi menu and choose ubuntu
[09:57] <EriC^^> if you can't get a uefi menu, boot a live usb
[09:58] <TJ-> Madura: right, did you install in UEFI mode or legacy BIOS mode?
[09:58] <Madura> TJ : legacy bios mode
[09:58] <TJ-> Madura: OK, and the firmware has Legacy/CSM support enabled, and the first boot device is the fixed disk?
[09:58] <Madura> Eric : TJ : I can re install it again. what is the best way to reinstall ?
[09:59] <TJ-> Madura: don't reinstall yet, let's actually find out what is going on
[09:59] <Madura> TJ : ok.
[10:02] <Madura> TJ : Eric : when Im restaring machine, I got this error. [sda] incomplete mode parameter data [sda] Assuming drive cache : wright throght
[10:03] <Grayfoox> ahoj
[10:03] <TJ-> Madura: is the PC started right now with the Ubuntu Live ISO and using the "Try Ubuntu" option?
[10:04] <Madura> TJ : No, this is the another laptop
[10:05] <EriC^^> Madura: try booting a live usb
[10:05] <TJ-> Madura: OK, boot the PC with a Live ISO and do "Try Ubuntu" so we can do some diagnostics.
[10:06] <Madura> Eric : TJ : ok. give me 1 min
[10:06] <linocisco> hi any free cloud where we can install vtiger or any CRM?
[10:06] <TJ-> linocisco: outside your window :)
[10:07] <linocisco> TJ-, i m not using windows. I am with ubuntu. :). Microsoft gives only Windows. Ubuntu gives the whole DAMN house.:)
[10:08] <linocisco> but i am on bad house
[10:08] <pers3us> linocisco: What do you mean free cloud? :)
[10:09] <pers3us> linocisco: t3.micro of ec2 is free for a year. you can try that
[10:09] <TJ-> linocisco: The Window in your house. There is no such thing as "free cloud" - the euphamism 'cloud' means the collection of private networks that make up the 'Internet'
[10:09] <pers3us> :)
[10:09] <Grayfoox> :D
[10:09] <linocisco> perceive, free OS is ubuntu , CentoS etc. I am thinking if we can get free cloud where we can install any server with some duration
[10:09] <TJ-> linocisco: what you want is a hosted service, likely a small virtual machine
[10:09] <pers3us> linocisco: TJ- haha
[10:10] <Madura> Eric : pers2us : TJ : now im with live.
[10:10] <TJ-> No wonder people have problems with software if they don't get the basic terminology correct :D
[10:10] <pers3us> :D
[10:10] <TJ-> Madura: good. does it have a network connection?
[10:11] <linocisco> TJ-, yes. that is true. hosted service is better. if not, I need to build on free server on free cloud
[10:11] <pers3us> linocisco: We are not trying to discourage you. But, rather telling you need a free cloud, tell what you want to do.
[10:11] <linocisco> pers3us, i want to use any free CRM on freecloud so that i can access from anywhere
[10:11] <Madura> TJ : yes. its bit slow connection
[10:12] <TJ-> Madura: good, at least it can send info to a pastebin easily
[10:12] <TJ-> Madura: OK... lets get started. Start a terminal so you have a shell command line
[10:12] <Madura> TJ : already done :)
[10:12] <pers3us> linocisco: Do one thing, go to aws.amazon.com. Register there, and go to ec2. You can start a server called t3.Micro, which will have a label "free tier available".
[10:12] <TJ-> Madura: Do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then do "pastebinit <( sudo lsblk -f )"
[10:13] <pers3us> linocisco: It will be free for a year, and will solve your problem.
[10:13] <linocisco> pers3us, I have no credit card. that is the problem.
[10:13] <pers3us> linocisco: Hmm.. try OpenShift then.
[10:14] <linocisco> pers3us, thanks let me check
[10:15] <Madura> TJ : it says dpkg was inerrupted, you must mannually run sudo dpkg --configure -a to corect the problem
[10:15] <TJ-> Madura: is this for a Live ISO doing "Try Ubuntu" ?!
[10:16] <Madura> TJ : yes, live ISO
[10:16] <pers3us> TJ- Madura , this should not happen
[10:16] <Madura> TJ : with try ubuntu
[10:16] <TJ-> Madura: then I suspect all your issues could be due to a corrupted installer image
[10:17] <TJ-> Madura: reboot it, at the Live ISO boot menu choose the "Check disk" or whatever it is called option
[10:17] <freakyy> id like to install ubuntu but the windows partition tool tells me theres no space to make the partition smaller (maybe cuz theres non-moveable data at the end of the partition?) - is there any way i can use space at the start of the partition?
[10:17] <pers3us> TJ-: If it is corrupted, live iso won't boot either right?
[10:18] <pers3us> isn't there a step for checking md5 before it is written to flash drive?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> pers3us, corrupt .iso 's CAN boot. best practice: md5sum the .iso and the usb
[10:19] <TJ-> pers3us: depends on what the corruption is, might only be a few bits here and there
[10:20] <Madura> TJ : this was came in other machine also. I cant update some softwares because of this problem
[10:20] <pers3us> TJ-: cfhowlett: hmm, that could be the case.
[10:20] <TJ-> freakyy: No, you'll need to do a massive defragmentation operation on the NTFS; you might need specialised tooling for that, such as Executive Software's Diskeeper
[10:20] <Madura> TJ : im using same iso
[10:20] <freakyy> TJ-: omg ... i cant do that
[10:20] <pers3us> TJ-: freakyy: or a free one, try Minitool Partition Editor
[10:20] <TJ-> Madura: then we have to assume - unless you can prove otherwise - the ISO image is corrupt
[10:21] <Madura> TJ : I have downloaded it from ubuntu site.
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: or make your life real easy and install ubuntu single :p
[10:21] <pers3us> freakyy: It isn't that complicated. but it will take time. use that tool, it will defragment/resize the block.
[10:21] <TJ-> pers3us: if the NTFS has unmovable blocks, and the MS Windows own Disk Management tool can't move it, it'll need an offline defrag
[10:21] <freakyy> ok im thinking about removing windows from my laptop ...
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> !yay | freakyy
[10:22] <pers3us> TJ-: Never encountered it :) It worked for me whenever I tried to resize, even if there was defragmentation
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> freakyy: you can mess with other Oses from ubuntu/virtualbox afterwards
[10:22] <nitish> how can I update php of lamp?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> Madura, it takes about 1 minute to md5sum the .iso ... don't talk about doing it, DO IT.
[10:22] <freakyy> i will make the recover CDs for my laptop now
[10:22] <pers3us> nitish: You know, first thing you should do is google up a bit :)
[10:22] <freakyy> i hope it works
[10:22] <freakyy> oh wait i cant
[10:23] <freakyy> the tool doesnt burn
[10:23] <freakyy> but i have recovery drives
[10:23] <Madura> TJ- : ok
[10:23] <pers3us> freakyy: screw windows, who wants recovery :D
[10:23] <freakyy> can i ever boot from these recovery drives and reinstall windows?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> freakyy, ask ##windows about windows issues
[10:23] <freakyy> ok
[10:24] <nitish> pers3us: but few people present there can explain better and faster than google.
[10:24] <Madura> TJ- : does ubuntu has md5 sum checker ? or have to do it online site ?
[10:24] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | Madura,
[10:25] <pers3us> nitish: You will learn more if you read more. :) What php version is currently present on your system? and which one you want to upgrade?
[10:26] <nitish> pers3us: currently installed 5.5.9. i want 5.6.*
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> nitish: its reccomended you use package versions for your specific ubuntu version
[10:26] <nitish> lotuspsychje: didn't get it.
[10:26] <futurama140> does anyone have any idea how i can mount a windows game ISO in trusty so i can install the game through wine? ive tried gisomount and it wont work, and i cant even figure out how to "unpack the source and create a build directory" for cdemu. I'm moderately computer literate but have very little knowledge of linux distros and programming
[10:27] <pers3us> nitish: check this out. http://askubuntu.com/questions/498175/how-to-downgrade-php-from-5-5-9-to-5-4-in-ubuntu-14-04-installed-with-lamp
[10:27] <freakyy> oh yea i know now - using the assist button ... ok
[10:27] <freakyy> bbl ... hopefully with ubuntu then
[10:27] <nitish> pers3us: I don't need to downgrade. I need to upgrade php in lamp.
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> !latest | nitish
[10:28] <Madura> ubonttu : 1b305d585b1918f297164add46784116 ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:29] <pers3us> nitish: sorry! my bad :D see if there is a ppa around for 5.6 and use it, although it is not always a good idea as lotuspsychje mentioned.
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Madura, no need to post that here. YOU check that it matches.
[10:29] <nitish> pers3us: ok I've dropped my idea of update php.
[10:30] <TJ-> Madura: look at the Ubuntu ISO download pages, they have the hashes displayed there
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> nitish: if you like newer php, you can try out latest ubuntu
[10:31] <nitish> lotuspsychje: I am using 14.04 lts and waiting for 16.04 lts.
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> nitish: xenial uses 5.6.14 atm, but still in daily build
[10:32] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, if your hardware can handle it: ubuntu 14.04 + virtualbox + ubuntu 15.10 in a box + shine new PHP
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: yeah nice idea +1
[10:32] <pers3us> cfhowlett: or use a contaier
[10:33] <nitish> cfhowlett: don't like to do that
[10:33] <pers3us> nitish: cfhowlett lotuspsychje https://hub.docker.com/_/php/
[10:36] <futurama140> oi gevALT
[10:37] <Madura> cfhowlett : its correct
[10:37] <futurama140> does anyone have any idea how i can mount a windows game ISO in trusty so i can install the game through wine? ive tried gisomount and it wont work, and i cant even figure out how to "unpack the source and create a build directory" for cdemu. I'm moderately computer literate but have very little knowledge of linux distros and programming
[10:38] <pwca> hi, I keep losing my IRC connection and I suspect it may have something to do with my shitty wireless card. how can I confirm my suspicion?
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: better install a game the normal way with playonlinux
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Madura, excellent. now verify the USB. use the "verify cdrom" instructions
[10:38] <Madura> cfhowlett : TJ : Eric : md5 is correct for my download version
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: try unpack the iso, burn to a cd/dvd and install with playonlinux?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | futurama140
[10:39] <pers3us> futurama140: Loop mount? sudo mount -o loop path/to/iso/file/YOUR_ISO_FILE.ISO /media/iso
[10:39] <Madura> cfhowlett : there is no cdrom, I have only usb port.
[10:39] <pers3us> Madura: same thing, just boot using flash drive, and there will be option to verify
[10:39] <cfhowlett> Madura, verify the USB
[10:39] <futurama140> lotuspsychje: i am unable never heard of it, but i am unable to burn disks
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> !burn | futurama140
[10:40] <Madura> cfhowlett : im on try ubutu with flash drive
[10:40] <futurama140> thank you pers3us, perhaps that will work.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> Madura, as pers3us suggested; reboot, hit enter and see the advanced grub options for "verify"
[10:41] <OnTheRocks> hi
[10:41] <futurama140> im used to daemontools in windows, but i have vowed not to touch any windoze distro again
[10:41] <OnTheRocks> how can i monitor cpu temp in nagios in a server via snmp?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> OnTheRocks, ask #ubuntu-server
[10:42] <pers3us> futurama140: I am not aware of any daemontool for Ubuntu :) but loop mount works for me
[10:43] <pers3us> OnTheRocks: You just have to modify the daemon a bit right? I used it long time back.
[10:44] <OnTheRocks> what?
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> OnTheRocks: the #ubuntu-server might help you better
[10:45] <pers3us> OnTheRocks: yes please ask this on #ubuntu-server
[10:46] <pers3us> OnTheRocks: although, check in nagios.conf, and see if there is a place to add more commands.
[10:46] <pers3us> or rather commands.cfg actually
[10:46] <OnTheRocks> ok thanks
[10:47] <pers3us> check the block define command {}
[10:53] <bogoga> Hello
[10:57] <futurama140> is there any way for me to get a connection that doesnt cut off every few minutes on the wifi at the hotel at which i am staying?
[10:57] <futurama140> my usb wireless will not allow me to increase the power to it
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: wifi chipset?
[10:59] <futurama140> luke@luke-Lenovo-G50-45:~$ sudo mount -o loop /home/luke/thief2_cd1.iso /media
[10:59] <futurama140> mount: block device /home/luke/thief2_cd1.iso is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:59] <futurama140> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:59] <futurama140> luke@luke-Lenovo-G50-45:~$
[11:00] <futurama140> what does this mean?
[11:00] <juajo> Hola
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> futurama140 next time, use a pastebin for multiple lines
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> !es | juajo
[11:00] <futurama140> monkeydust what isthat?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> !pastebin | futurama140
[11:00] <futurama140> ok sorry
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> !iso | futurama140
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> !info acetoneiso | futurama140 might be usefull too
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> not the answer he expected, i guess
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:16] <m_abdelfattah> Hello... I've a problem with disk space, when I try $df -h, it shows that the disk size is 11G and 9.8G is used... but when I try $du sh, I found only 2-3G... So, I don't know what is using this disk space
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje acetoneiso looks nice, tnx
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: np mate :p
[11:16] <EriC^^> m_abdelfattah: try sudo apt-get install ncdu
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | m_abdelfattah clean your system :p
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> m_abdelfattah: firefox cache folder can contain alot of stuff also
[11:17] <m_abdelfattah> EriC^^: I used gt5
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> afternoon EriC^^
[11:18] <EriC^^> wth, has ubottu become sentient?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: gets smarter every day :p
[11:18] <m_abdelfattah> EriC^^: I used g5 and it shows me 2.8GB in 13 files or directories
[11:18] <MoonUnit`> you may also have cached packaged from installing updates and programs, apt-get clean will remove them.
[11:18] <MoonUnit`> *packages
[11:18] <m_abdelfattah> EriC^^: So, I still don't know which folder is taking that 5-6G disk space!
[11:19] <m_abdelfattah> lotuspsychje: it is a web server no gui or firefox installed...
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> m_abdelfattah: ah ok
[11:20] <EriC^^> m_abdelfattah: you can try sudo find / -size +1G to find files bigger than 1G
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> !info discus | m_abdelfattah
[11:21] <momomo> is it safe to update from 14 to 15 ?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> momomo: better not upgrade an LTS to non-lts
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> momomo: do you need long time support or not?
[11:22] <momomo> not really, i just need something that is stable and working
[11:22] <momomo> 14 is buggy
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> momomo: define buggy
[11:22] <momomo> it contains bugs
[11:23] <momomo> and I was hoping some of the issues is going to be resolved
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> momomo: 14.04.3 should be pretty stable
[11:23] <nbrecht01> momomo: You cannot directly upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04. You must first upgrade to 14.10. It is safe, but bear in mind that 15.05 in NOT LTS.
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> nbrecht01: also 14.10 is eol
[11:23] <momomo> lotuspsychje, it's stable but it has alot of quicks
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> momomo: what kind?
[11:24] <momomo> lotuspsychje, lots of things .. are you using 14 ?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> momomo: yes
[11:24] <momomo> ook. maximimze a window
[11:24] <momomo> then click on minimize
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> momomo: you have the right graphics driver active?
[11:24] <momomo> lotuspsychje, yes
[11:24] <momomo> then maximize that window by using the icon on the meny
[11:25] <momomo> try to click on a small link or icon on the window
[11:25] <momomo> wrong coordinates
[11:25] <momomo> that's annoying as hell
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> momomo: not sure if i get what you mean
[11:25] <momomo> also, the task switcher is shit in unity .. and compiz switchers are almost equally shit
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> !language | momomo
[11:26] <momomo> see this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1306550
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> momomo: what kind of graphics card chipset do you have?
[11:26] <momomo> nvidia .. i don't think it's a graphic issue
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> momomo: what chipset exactly?
[11:26] <momomo> 765m
[11:26] <momomo> but i have disabled it .. because it casuses freezes when flash is used
[11:27] <momomo> and i have to ctrl + f7 and tehn f8
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> momomo: you disabled your main card?
[11:27] <momomo> yes, using intel instead
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> momomo: no wonder you got issues
[11:27] <momomo> lotuspsychje, it's not related to the graphics card i believe
[11:27] <nbrecht01> I have problems with Nvidia too, Ubuntu does not have good drivers preinstalled. With a bit of work, you may be able to find some drivers
[11:27] <momomo> did you try what I suggested ?
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> momomo: listen mate, your card is an optimus card
[11:28] <momomo> nbrecht01, there are no good drivers .. nvidia will 1) cause frequent freezes which will make everything pause ... 2) fan keeps going on for nothing
[11:28] <momomo> lotuspsychje, yes
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> momomo: you need to use the nvidia card and install nvidia-prime to get things straight
[11:29] <momomo> lotuspsychje, i believe i have trieed those
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> momomo: then enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[11:29] <momomo> performance mode required ?
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> momomo: also you need the right driver
[11:29] <momomo> i have the latest
[11:29] <momomo> and I have gone back and forth hundred times
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> momomo: latest doesnt always mean better
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> momomo: check if you have nvidia-prime installed please
[11:30] <momomo> already installed
[11:30] <eshant> I have just joined, I don't know the specifics of card. I am using nvidia latest drivers for my Nvidia GT525M card
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> momomo: if you want compiz and windows to work properly, your nvidia must be enabled right
[11:30] <momomo> lotuspsychje, you need to understand that sometimes these drivers do not work as one could hope
[11:30] <momomo> lotuspsychje, is performance mode going to make a difference?
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> momomo: of course
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> linux and nvidia don't make a happy couple
[11:31] <momomo> lotuspsychje, in what regard? maybe the context switching is what causes the frequent freezes ? and that could possibly solve it?
[11:31] <eshant> These are the packages that I am using - nvidia-352 nvidia-352-uvm nvidia-opencl-icd-352 nvidia-prime nvidia-settings
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> momomo: we have many users with optimus card working like a charm on LTS
[11:32] <eshant> that allow how to switch intel<->Nvidia
[11:32] <momomo> lotuspsychje, then you need to see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/519854/ubuntu-14-04-screen-freezes-randomly-with-nvidia-and-it-is-possible-to-fix-with
[11:33] <momomo> lotuspsychje, or this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/1220426
[11:33] <eshant> lotuspsychje: no with intel graphics may also work well
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> momomo: thats on old thread suggesting bumblebee
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> momomo: and bumblebee is outdated
[11:34] <momomo> lotuspsychje, can you try the maximize then minimze thing to see if you also have this issue so we can avoid discussing the wrong thing?
[11:34] <momomo> open a browser
[11:34] <momomo> maximize it
[11:34] <momomo> then minimize WIN + M
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> momomo: i have no issues here on ubuntu, using compiz+ wobbly windows
[11:35] <momomo> maybe the wobbly windows fixes it though
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> lol no
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> and i disabled as many effect as possible
[11:35] <momomo> because when compiz gets involved it fixes the issue
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> momomo: you need the right driver combination togheter with your card + performance mode
[11:36] <momomo> i think there is a new nvidia update .. i will try that and then see ..
[11:36] <momomo> it might be related to the touchpad
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> momomo install indiciator-cpufreq to switch easily between modes
[11:37] <momomo> i do hve one
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> momomo: remember, latest doenst always mean better for your card
[11:37] <Fox001> HI guys sorry to intrude but how do I enable EFI boot on ubuntu-mate ?? I've installed to usb for portable os and trying to boot on MacBook. Installer boots fine, after install does not...
[11:37] <momomo> lotuspsychje, i've tried the older ones
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Fox001
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> momomo: 340 and 346 + performance mode enabled?
[11:38] <momomo> lotuspsychje, this seems to suggest it's still there in 15
[11:38] <momomo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/1220426
[11:38] <momomo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/1220426/comments/305
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> momomo: we cant speak in general mate, this depends from system to system
[11:39] <Fox001> Thanks lotuspsychje :)
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> momomo: you have another card as the bug
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> momomo: you can also try a 15.10 liveusb to test if things get sorted on your system
[11:40] <easyOnMe> anyone here has tried using PHP7
[11:40] <clorisu> Does anybody know what went wrong with this archive file? http://imgur.com/a/5ibqx (First image is the main directory, following two are the subfolders) -- When I transferred it originally it was just the 108.MOV file which was 3.7GB, but it split into that weird encryption folder which is 3.7GB and the 108.MOV is now 0 bytes?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: its not reccomended to use package versions from ppa
[11:40] <momomo> lotuspsychje, this seems to suggest a fix but it's old .. http://vxlabs.com/2015/02/05/solving-the-ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-346-nvidia-prime-black-screen-issue/ .. i will try upgrading the driver and try the performance mdoe thing
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> momomo: ok good luck mate
[11:41] <easyOnMe> lotuspsychje: no what i mean is has anyone here used php7 the latest version of php
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !latest | easyOnMe
[11:41] <easyOnMe> server side scripting programming language
[11:41] <momomo> lotuspsychje, thanks
[11:41] <OnTheRocks> anybody knows how to share a folder in windows to linux? using command line commands cacls and nfsshare?
[11:42] <anabain> anybody with experience setting up openvpn? I want to know if, when you're building certificates, values in vars file can be invented
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> OnTheRocks are you now in windows or in ubuntu linux?
[11:43] <TJ-> anabain: which values? Are you using easy-rsa ?
[11:43] <OnTheRocks> both
[11:43] <OnTheRocks> lol
[11:43] <OnTheRocks> virtual windows and virtual linux
[11:43] <anabain> TJ-, yes
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: seems like bad archive maybe?
[11:44] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: is there any way to fix it? its extremely important
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: maybe unpack with 7zip or something to test?
[11:44] <anabain> TJ, KEY_COUNTRY, KEY_PROVINCE, etc.
[11:45] <TJ-> anabain: any values that are valid as Distinguished Names in X509 certificates
[11:46] <anabain> ok, thanks
[11:46] <Holeis> sslserver irc.anonops.com:6697
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> !info p7zip | clorisu
[11:49] <freakyy> anyone here using owncloud and can tell me how i can get owncloud into the taskbar?
[11:50] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: ill try it
[11:54] <nbrecht01> Hello!
[11:57] <momomo> I updated, and switched to nvidia .. wrong x-coordinates still there
[11:58] <momomo> nvidia is showing one screen though
[11:58] <momomo> but i have too
[11:58] <momomo> i think compiz manages the other screen, right?
[11:59] <momomo> also, the fan is on for no reason
[12:00] <pwca> hi, I keep losing my IRC connection and I suspect it may have something to do with my shitty wireless card. how can I confirm my suspicion?
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> pwca so that's an unstable wifi... mind your language, tho
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | pwca start here
[12:03] <pwca> MonkeyDust: mind my language?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> pwca avoid profane words
[12:04] <pwca> avoid nonreligious words. got it.
[12:07] <Madura> Hi guys, Im going to use my laptop for some hard works. I have 500GB memory and I need to partision it.80 GB for root, 400GB for home, 500 MB for /boot. is it a good combination ? or what is the best ?
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> Madura 500GB HDD, not memory
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> Madura are you a developer?
[12:08] <Madura> yes
[12:08] <Na3iL> Madura, 500 GB it is for you HDD
[12:09] <Madura> yes
[12:09] <momomo> how do you get compiz/ubuntu to remember the position of the window so it's not always opened on the second monitor which I seem unable to cahnge
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Madura 80GB for root is huge
[12:10] <Na3iL> MonkeyDust, Did he need actually for /root & /boot, he can just set up /
[12:12] <momomo> seriously, this is not possible? i have to configure that on a per application basis using place windows
[12:12] <lisalll> Can somebody help me ? /usr/bin/ucf: line 637: db_x_loadtemplatefile: command not found
[12:13] <Na3iL> momomo, before I answer you about the 2nd question, you asked about Nvidia driver
[12:14] <Na3iL> I think you have double GPU?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> momomo maybe there's a setting in dconf-editor you need to edit
[12:14] <Na3iL> Intel + Nvidia right?
[12:14] <momomo> Na3iL, yes, possibly, nvidia and intel
[12:14] <momomo> but the issue is on both actually, and then the second question is something else
[12:14] <Madura> MonkeyDust : what is the best combintion you suggested ?
[12:15] <lisall> Can somebody help me? Setting up php5-common (5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1) ...
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Madura i'm no developer... my / is 15GB... /home is 100GB...
[12:16] <Na3iL> lisall, check this out → https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.6.11+dfsg-1ubuntu3.1
[12:17] <momomo> i got logged out for no reason
[12:17] <momomo> did I miss someting ?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> momomo maybe there's a setting in dconf-editor you need to edit
[12:18] <OnTheRocks> how can i give read permission to a user in a folder?
[12:18] <OnTheRocks> chmod 777 dir?
[12:18] <momomo> MonkeyDust, i think the window memory issue seems to aplpy mostly to chromium right now
[12:18] <Na3iL> OnTheRocks, chmod u+r example
[12:18] <lisall> Sorry this is my acctual problem Na3iL line 637: db_x_loadtemplatefile: command not found
[12:18] <momomo> and natuilus
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> OnTheRocks careful with 777 ... better use 755 or so
[12:18] <momomo> and terminal
[12:19] <clorisu> negative lotuspsychje i just get an error "an error occurred while extracting files encrypted file is unsupported"
[12:19] <momomo> actually, it seems only ff is able to remember it
[12:19] <momomo> and you guys keep asking me what is buggy about ubuntu
[12:19] <momomo> nothing actually works
[12:19] <momomo> there is always a quirk in every aspect
[12:20] <OnTheRocks> http://pastebin.com/Zrq46x1c
[12:20] <OnTheRocks> i cant change permission of that folder
[12:21] <OnTheRocks> its a mount folder to a shared nfs windows folder
[12:21] <OnTheRocks> but how can i view its content?
[12:22] <Na3iL> OnTheRocks, you need to type sudo before the command or just switch to root by typing sudo su.
[12:22] <OnTheRocks> i did: sudo ls /mnt/win-nfs/
[12:22] <OnTheRocks> and says permission denied
[12:23] <momomo> and now the fan is on 100% of the time since i switched to nvidia driver
[12:23] <momomo> and the other issues remain
[12:23] <Na3iL> OnTheRocks, did you mounted the NTFS partition to read only?
[12:24] <OnTheRocks> yes
[12:24] <OnTheRocks> i used: nfsshare -o ro anon=yes mynfs=C:\nfs-sh (in windows)
[12:25] <Na3iL> No, OnTheRocks you need to mount it using your GNU/Linux distro
[12:25] <OnTheRocks> that what i did
[12:26] <momomo> and I just spent another 1.5 hour trying to fix a problem on ubuntu
[12:27] <Na3iL> What is the output of df -l ?
[12:28] <OnTheRocks> in linux i did: sudo mount 10.8.11.120:/mynfs /mnt/win-nfs
[12:30] <clorisu> Does anybody know what went wrong with this archive file? http://imgur.com/a/5ibqx (First image is the main directory, following two are the subfolders) -- When I transferred it originally it was just the 108.MOV file which was 3.7GB, but it split into that weird encryption folder which is 3.7GB and the 108.MOV is now 0 bytes?
[12:31] <Ben64> clorisu: looks like its broken
[12:31] <marus> after reboot i scan my local host for openport and i see 6881/tcp open bittorrent-tracker
[12:31] <Na3iL> marus, what tool you use to scan your open ports?
[12:32] <Na3iL> OnTheRocks, can you follow this tuto → https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-nfs-mount-on-ubuntu-12-04
[12:32] <marus> Na3iL:nmap
[12:32] <marus> 13:31 < Na3iL> marus, what tool you use to scan your open ports?
[12:33] <clorisu> Ben64: is there any way to fix it?
[12:33] <Ben64> clorisu: ask the person who made it?
[12:34] <Na3iL> marus, Linux iptables Bittorrent tcp ports 6881 to 6889
[12:34] <dopstar> clorisu: what did you do with the file?
[12:34] <Ben64> marus: "sudo lsof -i :6881" will tell you what software is listening on that port
[12:35] <clorisu> Ben64: i made the archive file myself, around 2 years ago. it corrupt at the time and ive just kept it saved since.
[12:35] <clorisu> dopstar: nothing, just transferred it to a different file system only iirc.
[12:35] <dopstar> clorisu: you can generate a checksum like with: "md5sum filename.tar.gz > filename.tar.gz.md5sum"
[12:36] <marus> Ben64, i know wich software and i have stop it and closed the port, i was just wondering why it happend every time at boot
[12:36] <dopstar> clorisu: if the checksum is not the same then there was a network error in transmission you just need to treansfer it again
[12:36] <Ben64> marus: because you set it to run at boot
[12:37] <marus> Ben64: nope i rearly don't
[12:37] <Ben64> marus: it doesn't happen by default, so you did
[12:37] <Na3iL> marus, you have enabled Iptables firewall, thus while booting it opens TCP ports from 6881 to 6889
[12:37] <`ph8> Hi all, i've just installed the latest fglrx from wily-proposed and it works! I can boot, hurrah!
[12:37] <marus> okay :-) i will remove it from init and see if it come back :-)
[12:37] <OnTheRocks> dammm it
[12:38] <`ph8> I only have one more problem, when i'm playing graphic-intensive stuff like games (Planetary annihilation, prison architect) the graphics card starts resetting every few minutes (black screen, game is still in progress but monitor layout is reset)
[12:38] <OnTheRocks> asist@uvm120:~$ ls /mnt/win-nfs/
[12:38] <OnTheRocks> ls: impossível abrir a pasta /mnt/win-nfs/: Permissão negada
[12:38] <`ph8> after a few resets the whole desktop environment freezes
[12:38] <`ph8> any idea what it could be? There's nothing much in the Xorg.0.log (no warnings (WW) or anything)
[12:38] <OnTheRocks> why i cant view folder content?
[12:38] <Ben64> `ph8: sounds like it could be a hardware problem
[12:39] <OnTheRocks> i did a mount to a shared folder in windows
[12:39] <`ph8> It's fine outside of gaming
[12:39] <`ph8> and it's been fine in the past
[12:39] <`ph8> although my PC has just been in storage for 6 months
[12:39] <OnTheRocks> and i cant view its content event with admin rights!?
[12:39] <`ph8> it didn't happen with the Open source radeon drivers, although the game wasn't exactly performant
[12:39] <OnTheRocks> why?
[12:39] <Ben64> OnTheRocks: pastebin the output of "mount" and "ls -ld /path/to/mountpoint"
[12:40] <OnTheRocks> ok
[12:40] <`ph8> any idea how i might diagnose dodgy hardware @ben64? Like a getting too hot kinda thing?
[12:41] <Ben64> `ph8: heat could definitely be it. join ##hardware for hardware stuff
[12:41] <OnTheRocks> http://pastebin.com/Mkbrp9dQ
[12:41] <OnTheRocks> mount it didnt give any error
[12:42] <momomo> sometimes ( quite often ) the media scanner will start scanning my 1tb disk and that's quite annoying for no reason ... how can I disable that ?
[12:42] <OnTheRocks> i think system did the mount with success
[12:42] <OnTheRocks> but i can have permission to view
[12:46] <Ben64> OnTheRocks: you didn't paste anything i asked for
[12:47] <OnTheRocks> i paste it
[12:48] <Ben64> you did commands that i didn't say
[12:50] <momomo> is htere a wasy to get the switcher to an icon for each window ?
[12:51] <Ben64> OnTheRocks: i'm going to go ahead and give up now, if it's going to take this long to complete step 1, i can't do it
[12:52] <clorisu> dopstar: i dont have the original file that the archive was made out of unfortunately
[12:52] <unknownme> hi, I tried to make an bootable usb stick with usb-creator to install 15.10. I created the stick using 15.04. when I boot from this stick I get an "boot error".
[12:52] <clorisu> dopstar: if i did it wouldnt matter that the archive was broken, but unfortunately ive lost the original
[12:53] <EriC^^> unknownme: try sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[12:53] <unknownme> I read that it is not possible from 15.04 to create a 15.10 stick?
[12:53] <rory> unknownme: yes it is, it just copies the iso directly. you could do it from another Linux distribution even
[12:53] <EriC^^> ( make sure you get /dev/sdX to be your usb using sudo parted -l )
[12:53] <EriC^^> unknownme: ^
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> unknownme: did you try to press TAB when you get that message?
[12:55] <unknownme> lotuspsychje, no. with enter it continues booting from hard disk
[12:55] <syntroPi> unknownme, you could try to boot the iso in a vm (virtualbox) and give it the access to your usb stick. then you could use usb creator from within 15.10 to write that iso on usb stick
[12:59] <syntroPi> rory, i think it does a bit more than dd (i.e. install grub and such)
[13:00] <marus> Ben64: do you know how can i disable it from boot
[13:00] <rory> syntroPi: nope, you can dd directly to a usb flash drive and it works
[13:01] <rory> it's called a "hybrid iso" or something and it's been the case for a while now
[13:01] <syntroPi> rory, but usb-creator does not just copy like that
[13:01] <rory> no because usb-creator uses a method that works with ancient isos too
[13:01] <EriC^^> simplest and best way is to dd the iso
[13:01] <syntroPi> yes hence my comment
[13:02] <rory> Both methods work but dd is simpler if you're happy running a command
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> lucky for us devs are working on a new usb-creator for xenial
[13:02] <syntroPi> and btw that dd the iso is not working very reliably
[13:02] <EriC^^> syntroPi: dd is most reliable, surely more reliable than using a vm to write to a usb
[13:02] <EriC^^> :p
[13:03] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yeah, a 2-line shell script with 'dd' in it :)
[13:03] <syntroPi> except when it doesnt work :P
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: :p
[13:03] <EriC^^> syntroPi: it doesn't get much fool-proof than dd..
[13:03] <TJ-> EriC^^: don't you believe it!
[13:03] <auronandace> syntroPi: when doesn't it work? are you trying to dd non-hybrid iso files
[13:03] <futurama140> how do i mount an img file to a micrsd card?
[13:03] <unknownme> rory, EriC^^ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes... known issues -> point 3. I am not sure if this is the issue I have
[13:04] <TJ-> EriC^^: however simple you make it, I can bring you fools that can break it :p
[13:04] <unknownme> Due to changes in syslinux, it is not currently possible to use usb-creator from 14.04 and earlier releases to write USB images for 15.04 or later; we believe that it is also not possible to use usb-creator from a 15.04 or later system to write USB images for earlier releases. For now the workaround is to use a matching release of Ubuntu to write the images, but we intend to issue updates soon to work around this incompatibility. 13
[13:04] <unknownme> 25801, 1446646 and 1499746
[13:04] <EriC^^> TJ-: i mean the method itself, not the user interaction :p
[13:04] <TJ-> EriC^^: oh, you and your qualifications :D
[13:05] <auronandace> unknownme: that is due to the change to systemd in 15.04 and later
[13:05] <EriC^^> unknownme: use dd and call it a day
[13:05] <TJ-> bug 1499746
[13:06] <TJ-> auronandace: no, not systemd, it's the syslinux code changes
[13:06] <unknownme> EriC^^, ok. I'll try dd
[13:06] <momomo> lotuspsychje, to see the bug I was talking about, you need to disable the "show live previws in the switcher" in compiz unity plugin
[13:06] <auronandace> TJ-: ah, sorry, thanks for the info
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> !yay | momomo
[13:06] <TJ-> auronandace: i know why you'd think that though - it seems to be cause of most other disruption around 15.04 :D
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> momomo: so you installed ccsm?
[13:07] <momomo> lotuspsychje, i had it alreayd installed
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> momomo: ok col!
[13:08] <momomo> lotuspsychje, ^ ^
[13:08] <momomo> i am not even using the unity switcher
[13:08] <momomo> but that setting has to be on either way
[13:08] <momomo> i am using the static application switcher
[13:09] <futurama140> can someone guide me through the process of mounting an IMG file to a microsd?
[13:09] <momomo> now I wisht hat switcher could always show on all screens .. it's quite annoying that it keeps showing on one or the other
[13:09] <momomo> depending on active window
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> !info acetoneiso | futurama140 try this
[13:10] <futurama140> thank you. i shall try
[13:10] <futurama140> is not the capability built in ubuntu?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> !iso | futurama140
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> !info furiusisomount | futurama140 or try this
[13:12] <futurama140> are IMG files treated the same as ISOs?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: an .img file is also an image like an .iso
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: but not all programs will manage all types of images
[13:13] <futurama140> ok that's what i was assuming
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> ioria: good afternoon :p
[13:15] <ioria> lotuspsychje, hi there !!!
[13:16] <futurama140> is there somewhere i can learn all the essential functions of working in a linux distribution? like attaining a basic conversational proficiency in a new language? i understand mastery will take quite a while, but i find i have no clue how to accomplish basic tasks and i dont even know what the appropriate questions are to ask.
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> !manual | futurama140
[13:16] <futurama140> aha! thank you.
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: you can request manpages in your terminal also for help: man yourcommand
[13:18] <futurama140> man as in manual. ok. good to know
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: there are also tons of handy packages for ubuntu out there, to make ones life easier, so if you need something come ask us
[13:20] <futurama140> what is a front-end for a program i already have?
[13:21] <allen> 晚上好，everyone
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> !cn | allen
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: not sure what your asking here, can you detail?
[13:22] <chris_99> Does anyone know if theres any patch for the broadcom-sta driver, to make it compile on 4.2.0-18-generic
[13:23] <Erik_Underline> Hello
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> Erik_Underline: welcome
[13:24] <futurama140> i keep finding mention of front-ends for things such as wine, with names that may have no relation the the core program. is this just a plug-in of sorts?
[13:24] <whiteknight69> Hi, is there any way to speed up the Caps Lock key? I use it instead of shift for typing in upper-case.
[13:25] <whiteknight69> There is a slight delay in Ubuntu as opposed to Windows
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: playonlinux is a front-end for wine, means it uses wine also
[13:25] <ioria> chris_99, well, take a look here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl .... not sure
[13:26] <chris_99> i've found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/+bug/1504975
[13:26] <Erik_Underline> So I recently got the latest Ubuntu Linux distro yesterday, installed it on a SSD, and everything went fine. However, I'm having two big problems; first the headphone jack doesn't work, like it does while I run Windows on my older HDD. It is registered by the computer, as it switches in sound menu to it, but it refuses to play any sound. I've tried all solutions on http://goo.gl/1LsGE5 but none works for me.
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Erik_Underline
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> Erik_Underline: tryed LTS on same machine?
[13:29] <futurama140> lotuspsychje: so it's a seperate piece of software that uses wine at its core and performs independantly?
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: yeah you could say that
[13:29] <Erik_Underline> lotuspsychje: I picked the standard option to download on Ubuntu's site. LTS is standard right? If you mean LTS = long term support ?
[13:30] <Avocado_> Got my external harddisk, hurray
[13:30] <Erik_Underline> 14.04 I got, which is LTS
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> Erik_Underline: you said you download latest ubuntu= 15.10?
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> ah ok
[13:30] <Erik_Underline> OH, wrong, I meant 14.04, assumed it was the latest, sorry xD
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> Erik_Underline: no sweat, did you update to 14.04.3?
[13:31] <futurama140> ok. it's hard for me to get it with something new if i dont know the how and why. im not very good at blindly executing tasks like a mac user.
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: it all depends what your trying to do exactly?
[13:32] <dawciobiel> Is it possible to add some additional name for interface? for exmaple i got "eth0" but i also wanna got "eth_lan". I need it cuz i got many scripts where configuration on them is based on interface name. I dont wanna change all of them when im changing name for interface
[13:33] <futurama140> well currently i'm trying to mount an IMG file to a microsd to root my nook tablet and simulateously trying to mount thief 2 game ISOs to install the game through wine.
[13:34] <Erik_Underline> I've only got 14.04 LTS
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Erik_Underline: lsb_release -a
[13:35] <Erik_Underline> Oh, it says 14.04.03 LTS here
[13:35] <Erik_Underline> lotuspsychje:
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> Erik_Underline: good :p
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> Erik_Underline: ok try to find sound errors in dmesg or syslog
[13:36] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: is this a relatively new PC?
[13:37] <futurama140> the game iso mounting is successful, and it is installing right now.
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> !yay | futurama140
[13:37] <futurama140> now i'm trying to mount an IMG to the microsd
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: did you try that tool
[13:38] <TJ-> futurama140: what do you mean 'mount' that makes no sense
[13:38] <Fodd> Hey guys. Just a quick one. I sadly broke my S4 screen the other day, i really need to get a list of contacts from it.
[13:38] <Fodd> do you know of any software i can use that will let me download them?
[13:38] <Avocado_> he means mounting the iso
[13:38] <TJ-> futurama140: do you mean 'write' a data file to the micro-SD?
[13:38] <Erik_Underline> TJ-: It kinda is, it's from 2014, HP Elitebook 725 G2
[13:39] <TJ-> !ltse | Erik_Underline: I suspect you need a more recent kernel then, which LTS gets with ...
[13:39] <Avocado_> Does anybody know if I can make a folder inside of my backup HDD that is password protected?
[13:40] <Avocado_> I want to make distinction between private and public files
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> Avocado_: use chmod to secure folders
[13:41] <Avocado_> lotuspsychje, I mean so that people cant access some files in my hdd but can access things like movies
[13:41] <futurama140> the README as well as the youtube video say "mount the IMG to the microSD card"
[13:41] <futurama140> i agree that it makes no sene according to y understanding of mounting, but it's the terminology they have used
[13:41] <futurama140> *sense
[13:41] <ioria> Avocado_, you can use Disks to make an encrypted partion on your drive ....
[13:41] <TJ-> futurama140: the entire sentence makes no sense, we 'mount' to a file-system 'mountpoint' which is a directory
[13:42] <Avocado_> ioria, isnt that tied to ubuntu only?
[13:42] <ioria> Avocado_, you need multi system ?
[13:42] <echo> hi
[13:42] <futurama140> ok so i'm not alone in being confused by thewording of the instructions
[13:42] <echo> i have a question
[13:42] <Avocado_> ioria, I just want to password protect some files, preferrably a whole folder
[13:42] <echo> how can i output "-e" in the shell?
[13:43] <Guest76478> how can i output "-e" in the shell?
[13:43] <TJ-> futurama140: If it were me I'd walk away from those instructions; if the writer doesn't know what those terms mean they're dangerous
[13:43] <Avocado_> so when i lend my hdd people can access software and movies but not my personal files
[13:43] <Avocado_> external hdd*
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest76478: start from the beginning, what are you trying to do?
[13:43] <ioria> Avocado_, ok... but that drive should be used also on win ?
[13:43] <Avocado_> Yep
[13:43] <Avocado_> Windows/mac/linux
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> Avocado_: bad idea, because there is software that can recover data on hd's even if its passworded
[13:44] <Guest76478> lotuspsychje: i am trying to use echo so that it outputs the string "-e"
[13:44] <ioria> Avocado_, complicated then....
[13:44] <Avocado_> lotuspsychje, i just want to protect it from noobs, not tech savvies
[13:44] <Avocado_> like my roommates
[13:44] <Guest76478> lotuspsychje: but neither echo
[13:44] <Guest76478> lotuspsychje: but neither echo '-'e nor echo "-e" nor anything else works
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> Avocado_: make an archive of your personal stuff,passworded
[13:45] <dawciobiel> what about "\\-e" ?
[13:45] <dawciobiel> or "\-e" ?
[13:45] <Avocado_> lotuspsychje, havent thought about that, thanks!
[13:45] <futurama140> yeah, the instructions were written by and for windows users, it states the mac and linux users need to " just extract the img file from the downloaded file and mount it to an sd card. its that simple"
[13:45] <Avocado_> just rar it passwordprotected
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> Avocado_: yep, long complicated password
[13:45] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: doesnt work
[13:46] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: the output is \-e then
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> Avocado_: or better, save your personal stuff on a seperate hd
[13:46] <futurama140> so i'm at a loss for what to do with the files i have
[13:46] <dawciobiel> Guest76478: one sec, i will try it here..
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: mount your .img file, and drag n drop the data to your sd...not that hard
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: did you install that furius tool i suggested?
[13:47] <futurama140> yes,
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: can you browse into that .img file with it?
[13:47] <futurama140> ok. that just seems too simple. i figured the sd would have needed to be made bootable somehow
[13:47] <futurama140> yea
[13:47] <dawciobiel> Guest76478: try: echo " -e"
[13:47] <dawciobiel> i got result: -e
[13:48] <ioria> Avocado_, give a quick look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/137828/how-to-encrypt-files-using-a-cross-platform-solution
[13:48] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: yeah but then there's a space in between
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: that depends on the distro you wanna install on your tablet
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: android?
[13:48] <dawciobiel> Guest76478: ok, one sec, i will try to get character code for '-- character
[13:48] <futurama140> cyanogen i believe is what i have
[13:48] <futurama140> yes android and nevermind i believe i got it working
[13:48] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: it's 0x02D
[13:49] <dawciobiel> 2D
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> futurama140: try the #android channel then, for more advise
[13:49] <dawciobiel> yes
[13:49] <Avocado_> ioria, WARNING: Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain unfixed security issues
[13:49] <dawciobiel> Guest76478: did you tried withit ?
[13:49] <Avocado_> they detected some flaws i guess
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> Guest76478 or echo "-e "
[13:49] <Avocado_> The development of TrueCrypt was ended in 5/2014 after Microsoft terminated support of Windows XP.
[13:49] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: i tried echo -e \x2D
[13:49] <ioria> Avocado_, better than nothing :þ
[13:49] <Avocado_> ioria, what about bitlocker?
[13:49] <Guest76478> MonkeyDust: then there's a space after it
[13:49] <ioria> Avocado_, ah.... don't remember how it works, sorry
[13:50] <Avocado_> its a windows thing
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> Guest76478 yes, that works
[13:50] <Guest76478> MonkeyDust: there may not be a space
[13:50] <futurama140> its working just fine
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> Guest76478 maybe with 'sed' you can remove that space
[13:51] <Guest76478> sed?
[13:52] <Guest76478> TJ- surely knows something about it
[13:52] <Guest76478> he knows everything :D
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Guest76478 http://www.theunixschool.com/2013/02/sed-examples-replace-delete-print-lines-csv-files.html
[13:53] <Guest76478> MonkeyDust: no no i have to do it using echo only
[13:53] <Guest76478> MonkeyDust: there definitely is a solution but i cant find it
[13:53] <zteam> Avocado_, It is believed that the TrueCrypt developers where pressed by authorizes like NSA or FBI and that they decided to shutdown TC becuase of that
[13:53] <Avocado_> zteam, I kind of believe that conspiracy
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> Guest76478 maybe the people in #bash know
[13:54] <clorisu> when I try to move a film from a external hdd to my harddrive i get an input/output error 3/4 of the way and it prevents the rest of the transfer. i can watch the whole video on the external hdd but only 3/4 on the hdd (and the file size is 3/4 also)? anybody know how to fix the input/output error or override it so i can transfer the rest of the file info?
[13:54] <Guest76478> MonkeyDust: ok i'll ask there ;)
[13:54] <dawciobiel> Guest76478: echo -n -;echo "e"
[13:54] <dawciobiel> :DDD
[13:54] <zteam> Avocado_, but from what I know no major flaws was found in Truecrypt, but there was some minior flaws detected
[13:55] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: wut
[13:55] <TJ-> Guest76478: printf "%s\n" '-e'
[13:55] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: how does this work
[13:55] <dawciobiel> printf - YES, but you said only 'echo"
[13:55] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: right ;)
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: try making an archive of the movie, then move to the other hd, and unpack there
[13:55] <dawciobiel> Anyway with only echo it will work this line: echo -n -;echo "e"
[13:55] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: why is that?
[13:55] <zteam> Avocado_, needles to say, there is a fork taking over named VeraCrypt
[13:55] <dawciobiel> or just echo -n -;echo e
[13:56] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: why is that?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: one of the hd's is fat32?
[13:56] <TJ-> Guest76478: echo -e '\x2de'
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest76478 knows how to excite the channel
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:57] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: will give it a shot, thanks. not sure ill check now
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: fat32 is limited for files bigger then 4gig perhaps its that?
[13:57] <Guest76478> TJ-: you got it :DD
[13:57] <clorisu> yep lotuspsychje , the original is on a fat32, and the receiver is ntfs
[13:57] <Guest76478> TJ-: i knew you'd get it
[13:58] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: limited in what regard?
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: how big is your movie?
[13:58] <Guest76478> TJ-: btw i am xubuntu682 the guy with the broken acer
[13:58] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: 4.3gb
[13:58] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: but the file only transfers 2.9gb before the i/o error
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: hmm i wonder how it got on that fat32 drive
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: maybe thatw shy your movie broke?
[13:59] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: are there limitations to single file sizes on fat32 im not aware of? could you direct me to further info on the subject
[13:59] <zteam> clorisu, FAT32 only support filesd up 4 GB, if you want to transfer biger files to it, you need to convert the drive to NTFS or split the drive
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: or can you play it as full movie from the fat32?
[14:00] <dawciobiel> Guest76478: I was trying with echo -e \x2D as well, but it will result "-" only, and when i wanna got "e" on this as well... i got SPACE between. echo -e \x2D \x65
[14:00] <clorisu> zteam: very interesting. thank you for the information. lotuspsychje i can play the full movie from the fat32 seemingly
[14:00] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: yeah that was my problem aswell
[14:00] <geirha> 4.3GB ~ 4.0 GiB so it checks out
[14:00] <dawciobiel> zteam: or split the file :)
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> dawciobiel: good idea
[14:02] <zteam> dawciobiel, ups that's what I meant when I wrote "splite the drive"
[14:02] <whiteknight69> clear
[14:02] <clorisu> alright lotuspsychje , i got "an error occurred while adding files to the archive" at 2.9gb of the temp file being made
[14:02] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: why does echo \-e not work for this one
[14:02] <Guest76478> dawciobiel: i just dont get it
[14:02] <whiteknight69> Guys where do I configure Video Card settings?
[14:02] <geirha> The limit of FAT32 is 4 GiB ~ 4.295 GB. Nautilus will display that as 4.29 GB or 4.3 GB most likely
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: you remember how you got that movie on the fat32?
[14:02] <whiteknight69> Guys where do I configure Video Card settings?
[14:03] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: im fairly sure i just cut the file and pasted it into the folder with thunar
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: whats not working
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: without errors?
[14:03] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: yes iirc
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: ok maybe try what dawciobiel suggests, splitting the file
[14:04] <whiteknight69> lotuspsychje, I'm using an Intel HD iGPU. Tested a simple game and it's very jagged. Anti aliasing isn't working.
[14:04] <clorisu> lotuspsychje: how am i able to do that?
[14:04] <geirha> If it is slightly less than 4.29 GB, then it will fit on FAT32
[14:04] <geirha> *slightly less than 4.3GB I mean
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> geirha: but it fails still on transfer to his ntfs
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: ubuntu version?
[14:05] <geirha> Is samba involved?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: find a filesplitter for ubuntu
[14:05] <clorisu> geirha: 4,2777,794,880 bytes
[14:05] <dawciobiel> lotuspsychje: zteam suggested it first, but he made "mistake", i knew he did it thats why i answered
[14:05] <whiteknight69> 15.10 wily
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: tryed LTS on that same card?
[14:06] <zteam> clorisu, are u getting the i/o error with the harddrive you are transfering from or too?
[14:06] <geirha> clorisu: Right, that's less than the limit of 4,294,967,296 bytes
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> zteam: from fat32 to ntfs
[14:07] <geirha> clorisu: Are you copying it over the net? via shared drive?
[14:07] <whiteknight69> no, lotuspsychje. Is there any way to fix in on 15.10?
[14:07] <clorisu> zteam: not sure how do i check? geirha nope, just locally on my filesystems
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: you can go bughunting your system for it, or try LTS liveusb to test difference
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: syslog and dmesg hold relevant info to trace whats going on
[14:08] <whiteknight69> lotuspsychje, is there no GUI software for tweaking graphics?
[14:08] <geirha> clorisu: ok, then I'd boot into windows and check both drives with scandisk (or whatever it's called these days)
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: before we 'tweak' we need to know whats going
[14:09] <zteam> clorisu, if I where in your shoes, I would try to perform a Checkdisk /fsck on the drive you are sending the file too
[14:09] <clorisu> zteam: i checked dmesg a few minutes ago and my last message was "[15312.880213] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[14:09] <clorisu> "
[14:10] <zteam> clorisu, if you have a Windows machine then stick to checkdisk, if not use fsck on Linux to check the drive
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: whiteknight69 wich driver= shows sudo lshw -C video?
[14:10] <clorisu> zteam: sdb1 is where the file is stored. should i run fsck on it? if so is there a chance of me losing the file by doing so?
[14:10] <TJ-> Guest76478: you can also do " echo ^[--e " that is 'echo ' Ctrl+V then Esc, then '--e'
[14:11] <whiteknight69> lotuspsychje, driver=i915
[14:11] <dopstar> clorisu: make sure the the drive is unmounted before your run fsck
[14:11] <Guest76478> TJ-: thank you ;)
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> clorisu: to split= http://askubuntu.com/questions/54579/how-to-split-larger-files-into-smaller-parts
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: i would try 14.04.3 LTS on it
[14:12] <whiteknight69> lotuspsychje, alright. Any other suggestions?
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: sure, dig into your syslog and dmesg to see whats going on
[14:13] <clorisu> zteam: this is what im getting http://pastebin.com/K8uBv4Cz
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> whiteknight69: any errors relevant to your graphics card
[14:13] <zteam> clorisu, from my experience fsck is a little more unreliable than Checkdisk on Windows them it comes to FAT and NTFS volume, that's why I reccomend you to stick with Checkdisk if possible :-)
[14:13] <pwca> why can't Lunix have a usable checkdisk tool?
[14:13] <clorisu> zteam: check out that paste, if its useless ill boot windows
[14:14] <geirha> pwca: because ntfs is closed source
[14:15] <pwca> why can't Lunix come up with a good alternative?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> pwca why can't windows have a usable fsck tool?
[14:15] <geirha> pwca: ext4
[14:15] <zteam> clorisu, it's not useless, it's simply refuses to work with a drive that is unmounted
[14:15] <pwca> isn't ext4 basically crap?
[14:15] <dawciobiel> why?
[14:15] <geirha> no
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> pwca what makes you think that?
[14:16] <clorisu> alright zteam ill try checkdisk, be back soon
[14:16] <zteam> clorisu, if you want to contiune with linux just run sudo umount /path/to/drive
[14:19] <zteam> pwca, there are alternatives to both CheckDisk and alternatives to NTFS volumes as well, however, there is no way to repair a NTFS drive under Linux
[14:19] <pwca> MonkeyDust: it tends not to work on Windows.
[14:19] <Erik_Underline> Okay, so I tried updating the kernel, but it gave no effect to the fact that my headphones won't perform any sound while my internal speakers would. I also tried with external speakers but they failed aswell. I've tried all relatable solutions that you sent to me via the !sound thingy
[14:19] <Erik_Underline> I've checked everything in sound menu ofc
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> pwca and windows things don't work on linux, you're right
[14:20] <zteam> pwca, that's not Linux fault, Linux can read and write NTFS volumes just fine
[14:20] <xela2244> hi, when i press power button screen should blank, but it does not do anything. I'm using ubuntu GNOME 15.10
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> pwca that's because linux != windows
[14:21] <pwca> zteam: it can't repair it.
[14:21] <Reuds_> Hello i have an problem when i try to install/try ubuntu. It says: ACPI PCC probe failed. Then it freezes and i must shut down my pc manually. How can i fix this?
[14:21] <pwca> MonkeyDust: it's 2015, this kind of logic doesn't impress anyone.
[14:21] <Erik_Underline> I've tried to uncheck anything in alsamixer aswell
[14:21] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: OK, possibly the output is muted. At a command-line have you tried "alsamixer" and ensuring the output is not muted?
[14:21] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: OK, you're ahead of me :)
[14:21] <Erik_Underline> TJ-: :D
[14:22] <RDX4OO> Reuds_, try the newest version of ubuntu
[14:22] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: can you "pastebinit <( aplay -l; aplay -L )"
[14:23] <zteam> pwca, nope, but how often would you actually need to that, then you can do it from Windows? (the only reason for using NTFS it if you are sharing data between a Linux and a Windows machine anyway)
[14:23] <Reuds_> okay. Thanks. I have Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[14:23] <Erik_Underline> TJ-: What do you mean? Run the command in terminal?
[14:23] <Erik_Underline> pastebinit <( aplay -l; aplay -L )
[14:23] <zteam> pwca, and truth to be told, Linux can actually read some corrupted NTFS drive that Windows can't handle in some cases
[14:24] <xela2244> hi, when i press power button screen should blank, but it does not do anything. I'm using ubuntu GNOME 15.10
[14:24] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then run the command exactly as I typed it between the " " marks
[14:26] <Erik_Underline> It says it's unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/). It's asking if another process is running it. Should I kill all other processes, because I got a download going aswell
[14:27] <Erik_Underline> ?
[14:27] <xela2244> Erik reboot
[14:27] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: ignore that!
[14:27] <bekks> xela2244: Not necessary.
[14:27] <zteam> Erik_Underline, do you have synpatic or sofutware center open?
[14:27] <xela2244> or go on /var/lib/dpkg/status
[14:27] <Erik_Underline> I do
[14:27] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: if there's an existing apt / package operation in progress you'll need to wait
[14:28] <Erik_Underline> Oh okay
[14:29] <Erik_Underline> You can't pause downloads from software center? What is this, 2005? :D
[14:29] <chiel> :D:D:D:D:D
[14:29] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: instead do this "cat <( aplay -l; aplay -L ) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:30] <zteam> Erik_Underline, why would you like to that?
[14:30] <Erik_Underline> http://termbin.com/f4bx
[14:30] <Erik_Underline> Okay here it is
[14:33] <Erik_Underline> I had my headphones plugged out at the earlier pastebin, here's with my headphones plugged in http://termbin.com/axs0
[14:33] <MrCeeIII> hello.... I am having an issue with installing latest version of flash player (adobe)
[14:34] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: right, I suspect the issue is due to the PC having 2 sound devices, HDMI and the internal ALC3228. When on speakers, are you using the HDMI ?
[14:34] <zteam> Erik_Underline, have you checked that you are using the right outport in sound settings?
[14:35] <MrCeeIII> I like the online gamecenter pogo and I continue to get the error that the flash player is out of date... when i go to the adobe site to dload it redirects to the software center which inturn states adobe not found...
[14:35] <MrCeeIII> anyone?
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> !flash
[14:35] <Erik_Underline> TJ-: I don't know if I'm using HDMI or not, where do I see that?
[14:36] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: which speakers are operating when you have sound? the ones on the HDMI monitor, or the system's internally connected speakers?
[14:37] <MrCeeIII> i already installed that
[14:37] <Erik_Underline> zteam: in sound settings, when I plug in my headphones, it switches to "headphones" from "speakers"
[14:38] <harduim> !next
[14:38] <Erik_Underline> TJ-: It must be internal speakers because I got a laptop and my monitor doesn't have any sound output
[14:38] <Erik_Underline> I assume :o
[14:39] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: ok, and you hear sound from the speakers?
[14:39] <Erik_Underline> I do
[14:40] <Erik_Underline> Perfectly clear, but whatever I put into the analog output mutes the speakers as it should, but doesn't give any output itself
[14:40] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: ok and does the GUI show the headphone output in its choice of output devices?
[14:40] <Erik_Underline> But it does get registered by the machine as it recognizes it as "headphones" in sound menu
[14:41] <Erik_Underline> With GUI I assume you mean the sound menu? Does it show anywhere else on the GUI?
[14:41] <zteam> if you go to sound settings output devices and try to change the output device to another and then play the test sound
[14:42] <hamrit> sm
[14:42] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: that's what I meant yes, because Pulseaudio would only show a headphone device if ALSA knew there is one, and your 'aplay -L' listing shows ALSA does *not* see a headphone device
[14:43] <freakyy> hi all. im trying to install the ubuntu propriaty drivers from the repository but when i boot with them the screen looks clutered, and dispositioned. like i move my mouse all the the right and then start again at the left etc.
[14:43] <freakyy> is there anything i can do about it?
[14:43] <Erik_Underline> TJ-: So how do I make ALSE see the headphones?
[14:43] <freakyy> i tried both the update driver and the non update driver
[14:43] <Erik_Underline> ALSA*
[14:44] <clorisu> hi zteam, im back. had complications on windows so decided to run chkdsk instead. got this output http://pastebin.com/vHd8iMJa -- it seems to have recovered a bunch of files into the fat32, but same i/o error when i try to transfer the one i want
[14:44] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: the first thing is to confirm this diagnosis. Double-check in 'alsamixer' for any menthion of headphone devices
[14:45] <freakyy> i mean the screen looks distore like several colored lines, black lines
[14:46] <freakyy> and it responds very slowly
[14:46] <zteam> clorisu, try to check the ntfs voule too
[14:47] <zteam> another idea is to check the health of the hard drive with the disc tool
[14:48] <MrCeeIII> http://imgur.com/WC77e8S
[14:48] <MrCeeIII> somebody please help
[14:48] <Erik_Underline> TJ-; From alsamixer via f6 I can see that I got 2 sound cards registered, some HDMI one and HD-Audio Generic one. The "default", the "-", is set to the HDMI one, but that's weird because In the HDMI soundcard it only shows some S/PDIF while the second sound card, HD AUDIO GENERIC shows MASTER, HEADPHONES, SPEAKERS etc etc. All are unmuted.
[14:50] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: OK, so you do see HEADPHONES for the ALC
[14:50] <Erik_Underline> ALC? I do see headphones, yeah.
[14:51] <zteam> freaky what graphics card do you have?
[14:51] <TJ-> Erik_Underline: the 'aplay -L' doesn't list it, so now we know where to focus. I'm afraid I can't help you further on that, but there are folks around who should be able to use that info to kick ALSA/Pulseaudio into configuring a headphones output
[14:52] <drakonan> all right so im in ubuntu now yay
[14:53] <Erik_Underline> Okay thanks, I'll be leaving for a while now and return in 20 mins or so
[14:54] <freakyy> zteam: [AMD/ATI] Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[14:54] <drakonan> if it says x86-64 do i need a 32bit or a 64bit package
[14:54] <EriC^^> 64 bit
[14:54] <drakonan> k ty
[14:55] <zteam> MrCeeIII, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer, that would install flash for you
[14:56] <zteam> MrCeeIII, another option is to install Google Chrome, that one have a working and updated flashplayer built-in
[14:57] <clorisu> ok zteam so when i try to run it on the ntfs i get this error http://pastebin.com/8iyaMNtR
[14:57] <drakonan> ztane_, im jus installing that now hopefully i can use chromecast with it?
[14:57] <drakonan> with netflix
[14:57] <drakonan> how do i resolve dependencies google chrome
[14:59] <zteam> clorisu, NTFS cannot be repaired from a Linux machine, you need a Windows machine to do that
[14:59] <Reuds> hello. i downloaded the newest version of ubuntu and i get this error when i try to install it: ata8.00: status : { DRDY}
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> Reuds what's the newest to you, 15.10 or 16.04? 16.04 is not ready
[15:00] <Reuds> 15.10
[15:01] <MrCeeIII> zteam: thanks man ill try it later... gotta run
[15:01] <zteam> clorisu, you can try with sudo ntfix /dev/sda2 but there is not much it can
[15:01] <freakyy> Linux schleppi 4.2.0-18-generic #22-Ubuntu SMP Fri Nov 6 18:25:50 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> Reuds where did you download ubuntu and how are you trying to install
[15:03] <clorisu> zteam: ive tried copying it into two different ntfs filesystems, the linux and windows one, and the file stops at exactly the same byte for both. would that suggest its the fat32 and not the ntfs?
[15:04] <zteam> freakyy, there are drivers here check if they are newer than the ones you are currently using
[15:04] <Reuds_> i have ubuntu studios and i downloaded it from here: https://ubuntustudio.org/download/
[15:05] <Erik_Underline> TJ-: Back, would a possible solution be a complete reinstall of the OS?
[15:06] <Erik_Underline> Maybe something happened for me during the install for the ALSA
[15:06] <zteam> clorisu, yes, it seems so, as I said earlier try wit chkdsk d: /R from a Windows machine and see what happens
[15:06] <clorisu> kk
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> Reuds and how are you installing it... dvd/usb?
[15:07] <Reuds_> dvd
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> Reuds_ and is there a windows on it? which version?
[15:07] <Reuds_> Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
[15:07] <Reuds_> is this a problem?
[15:08] <zteam> freakyy, sorry forgot the link http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux+x86
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> Reuds_ you're not telling anything... what have you tried so far, where/when does it go wrong
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> Reuds_ do you want to dualboot or replace windows completely
[15:11] <Reuds_> okay i put in my Ubuntu studios disk. this works obviously :D. then i boot the cd and then i get the Menu :try ubuntu without installation. Install ubuntu and the other options. i think we all know wich menu. When I try "instsll Ubunut" or "gry ubuntu" i get an black screen with lines beginning with some numbers and ata8.00 or ats8: SError
[15:11] <clerisy> alright zteam for "chkdsk d: /R" im getting the error message "cannot open volume for direct access."
[15:11] <Reuds_> and i want a dualboot if this is possible
[15:13] <ioria> Reuds_, try F& Option -> nomodeset
[15:13] <ioria> Reuds_, try F6 Option -> nomodeset
[15:13] <zteam> clerisy, you were replacing D: with the device you were having trouble with right?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> Reuds_ scroll down, is this useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/695557/boot-freezes-with-ata-error/696368
[15:14] <clerisy> zteam: replacing? what do you mean? sorry im confused
[15:15] <Reuds_> okay i try now with nomodeset
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> Reuds_ yes, nomodeset is a common solution
[15:15] <zteam> you are supposed to be replacing d: with the letter of the device you want to check (the one you want to copy the file to)
[15:17] <zteam> clerisy, so if it showing up as for example x: in Windows explorer the command should be, chkdsk x: /R
[15:17] <Reuds_> okay with nomodeset i have the same error
[15:17] <clerisy> zteam: how do i determine whats it called on windows? i know its /dev/sda1 on linux but windows uses the ":" drives right?
[15:17] <clerisy> zteam: my linux partition isnt showing up in windows explorer
[15:17] <zteam> clerisy, yep, that's showen in windows explorer
[15:18] <ioria> Reuds_, can you paste the exact error ?
[15:18] <Reuds_> ill try give me a sec
[15:18] <zteam> clerisy, linux partition, I thought you are trying to copy it to a NTFS partiton???
[15:18] <ioria> Reuds_, and how big is your HD ?
[15:19] <shibb> hello
[15:19] <shibb> who are you
[15:19] <zteam> clerisy, CheckDisk is a Windows utilty and can only check NTFS and FAT volumes
[15:20] <clerisy> zteam: i think the linux partition is ntfs? iirc it says ntfs/ext4 on the disk utility
[15:22] <zteam> clerisy, send me a screenshot please so I can see what you are doing?
[15:22] <clerisy> ok let me change back to linux and ill take it zteam
[15:22] <zteam> clerisy, ohh, you are on Windows now...
[15:23] <farid> how are u?
[15:24] <Reuds> here is the error code:http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/view/20151122161332w5l89utvzs.jpg
[15:24] <freakyy> zteam: thanks, but installing with Ubuntu option gives file not found errors and i get no .deb packages - im currently redoing it and checking the logfile
[15:24] <freakyy> will take some more time
[15:25] <noelia> Hello everyone
[15:25] <ioria> Reuds_, it's something like this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=174335 the fix for him was switch SATA ports ...
[15:25] <ioria> Reuds, it's something like this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=174335 the fix for him was switch SATA ports ...
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> Reuds i read 'bad CRC' there, guess that's a clue
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> crc = cyclical redundacy check
[15:26] <clorisu> ah zteam i confused myself because its the whole harddisk which is listed as ntfs/ext4 , but thats just both of the partitions -- windows and linux. the linux partition is ext4
[15:27] <Reuds> switch sata ports? you mean to take the cable of the hard drive and put it instead of the sata xy into another?
[15:27] <clorisu> zteam: so is there any way to chkdsk the ext4 while its mounted and im using it?
[15:27] <zteam> clorisu, yes that sounds better :-)
[15:28] <bekks> clorisu: No.
[15:28] <clorisu> or better question zteam , is there any point checking it when the i/o error occurs at the same byte for both ntfs and ext4? doesnt that suggest its the fat32
[15:28] <motaka2> hello, after restarting ubuntu it ends to a dark screen, it shows the mouse pointer for a second and then it stops working in that black page
[15:28] <Reuds> but on the same hard drive there is windows and it works perfectly ._.
[15:28] <ioria> Reuds, switch your SATA ports your drives are connected to .....
[15:28] <muhandash> Hello.
[15:29] <ioria> Reuds, two drives ?
[15:29] <Reuds> i have only one hard drive ._.
[15:29] <ioria> Reuds, sorry, just one drive ?
[15:29] <muhandash> is this IRC?
[15:29] <bekks> clorisu: the same i/o cannot occur on nboth NTFS and ext4, since both are using different regions of your disk. If if, that test is pointless. I/O error indicate broken disks, which need to be replaces as soon as possible, after immediately ensuring you have a full backup.
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> muhandash yes, the ubuntu support channel
[15:30] <muhandash> right, thanks MonkdyDust.
[15:30] <Reuds> iora yes only one harddrive
[15:30] <ioria> Reuds, the problem is not the drive, is the port on the MB
[15:30] <clorisu> bekks: it seems im getting the same i/o error. just to clarify, i am moving a file from fat32 to the ntfs and ext4, and that is when i get the seemingly same i/o error
[15:30] <Reuds> okay. So only ubuntu has obviously a problem with it bc windows works fine
[15:30] <clorisu> bekks: which is why i suggested the error was the fat32 error
[15:30] <motaka2> hello, after restarting ubuntu it ends to a dark screen, it shows the mouse pointer for a second and then it stops working in that black page. what should I do ?
[15:31] <zteam> clorisu, well lets start over a little bit, you have 1 fat32 device you were tried to copy a movie from and you had tried to copy it to both a NTFS volume and to ext4 volume right?
[15:31] <zteam> clorisu, is those the same volume?
[15:31] <clorisu> correct zteam
[15:32] <Reuds> okay i'll shut down and swith the ports and theeen if it works thanks but if not I'll come back :)
[15:32] <clorisu> zteam: volume meaning physical entity? its on the same harddrive
[15:33] <zteam> clorisu, okey, are u on Linux or Windows right now?
[15:33] <clorisu> zteam: the harddrive is partitioned into a ntfs and ext4, heres a screen http://i.imgur.com/invrsZI.png
[15:33] <clorisu> zteam: im on linux ext4 atm
[15:34] <motaka2> hello, after restarting ubuntu it ends to a dark screen, it shows the mouse pointer for a second and then it stops working in that black page. what should I do ?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:36] <zteam> if you click on the chuggwheel and select smart-data and self test, and then try to run a selftest on the device
[15:37] <clorisu> zteam: extended short or conveyance?
[15:37] <noelia> I need some help, I can't make Mania Drive game sound work
[15:37] <noelia> The output when I run the game from terminal is this : Cannot open sound system
[15:38] <Nick714> Hello
[15:39] <zteam> clorisu, try with extended if you want to be sure, btw there is a little windows tool you can try to copy the file with it you want, but I would still reccomend you to run the self test to make sure your disk is okey
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> noelia does this give any output play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[15:40] <clorisu> zteam: to copy the file with the i/o error? and okie ill run the test now
[15:41] <zteam> clorisu, yes http://www.roadkil.net/program.php/P29/Unstoppable%20Copier
[15:41] <Nick714> Ok so I have a bug I think I found. I found away around it last time but this time I am stuck. My internet does not work at all on Ubuntu Server and I need to install the correct Broadcom driver
[15:42] <clorisu> zteam: apparently theres a linux download for it, should i try it here?
[15:42] <zteam> clorisu, there are tools for Linuxs as well, but the only one i now about makes a complet mirror of your damaged disk
[15:43] <zteam> clorisu, cool didn't know about that, yes, try it first and then check the health of your device
[15:44] <Nick714> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2174511 is where I was able to figure it out with Ubuntu Desktop but how can I install those drivers on Ubuntu Server without Internet? Can I store the files on a usb and install them on the computer?
[15:44] <zteam> clorisu, you should probably try to copy the files to a new harddrive or usb-pendrive
[15:44] <clorisu> zteam: you mean with the tool or before i try to use the tool?
[15:45] <noelia> MonkeyDust It does give an output
[15:45] <noelia> MonkeyDust I think it's correct
[15:45] <zteam> clorisu, with the tool
[15:45] <noelia> MonkeyDust It's a sound test, and it works perfectly well
[15:46] <nitish> How can I search for a file with starting keywords from terminal?
[15:47] <fred1807> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[15:47] <noelia> Would you please download the game and try if it works for you?
[15:48] <Nick714> Anyone know if it is possible to Sudo install a package onto a usb and move it into another computer without Internet?
[15:48] <noelia> http://maniadrive.raydium.org/index.php?downloads=yes
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> downloading a and installing a game is one bridge too far
[15:49] <nitish> Nick714: You can copy .deb file from one computer to another. To access that location "nautilus /var/cache/apt/archives"
[15:49] <noelia> MonkeyDust There's no need to install it, it's a binary
[15:50] <nitish> Nick714: and run .deb file in another computer type "sudo dpkg -i filename"
[15:51] <zteam> clorisu, be back later :)
[15:51] <clorisu> zteam: thanks for the help. i might be sleeping soon, so ill see you tomorrow if youre back
[15:51] <Nick714> nitish: If I do something like "Sudo apt-get install {b43 Broadcom driver}" that will install a.deb right? So I just have Togo into the path it, move it to my usb and run that command to run it correct?
[15:52] <EriC^^> Nick714: you need the .deb in a dir, and then type sudo dpkg -i file.deb to install
[15:52] <nitish> Nick714: Yes, try it. go ahead.
[15:52] <EriC^^> Nick714: but that doesn't mean it will install, you need to have the dependencies satisfied
[15:53] <freakyy> zteam: i think i found the problem. the version.h was relocated and i now linked to the correct version - i hope it works now :)
[15:53] <EriC^^> Nick714: dpkg -I file.deb should show the dependencies under Depends:
[15:54] <nitish> how can I search for a file from terminal?
[15:55] <noelia> Here's the output when I run ./mania_drive.sh
[15:55] <noelia> open /dev/[sound/]dsp: No such file or directory
[15:55] <noelia> Raydium: ERROR: Cannot open Sound System
[15:56] <Nick714> EriC^^: Oh ok, so I will move it to my computer and if there are any required dependencies I will also put those onto a usb, install them onto my broken computer then install the .deb of the driver
[15:56] <EriC^^> Nick714: sounds good
[15:56] <Nick714> nitish: I will try it when I get home thanks a lot for the help :)
[15:57] <nitish> Nick714: You're welcome. :)
[15:59] <Nick714> Sorry one my question. So on Ubuntu Desktop I would be able to plug in my Ethernet able and it would get me Internet and from there I would install the correct wifi packages. In Ubuntu Server the Internet autoconfiguration failed with and without Ethernet. Do you think installing the correct Broadcom drivers would fix Ethernet and wifi? Or you think I have something setup wrong making no internet work
[16:00] <EriC^^> Nick714: were you able to run iwlist scan and such?
[16:02] <Nick714> Eric^: iwlist scan? What would that do?
[16:02] <noelia> Any ideas on how to make sound work in Mania Drive 1.2?
[16:02] <EriC^^> scan for available wifi
[16:03] <Nick714> Eric^^*
[16:03] <Nick714> Oh hah. That would of been smart to do...
[16:03] <EriC^^> Nick714: lspci -k | grep -A2 Wireless
[16:04] <EriC^^> should show the wireless card and the kernel driver in use ( if any )
[16:04] <Nick714> I did ifconfig, said I was connected to Ethernet but my inet address was the default blank address (0.0.27 something like that) so I assumed I didn't have internet
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> noelia your sounds works, so it's game related and the game is not supported here... try here... http://memak.raydium.org/viewforum.php?f=10
[16:05] <Nick714> Eric^^: wireless card doesn't work at all unless I manually install the drivers hats why I need to use Ethernet to install them and if not then through USB. So iwlist scan how do I connect to wifi with a password from there?
[16:06] <muhandash> .
[16:06] <EriC^^> Nick714: i think you can use nmcli
[16:08] <Nick714> EriC^^: thanks a lot for the help I'm new to Ubuntu Server and not using GUIs. I'll try those commands when I get to my computer from there I'll figure it out. Hopefully Ethernet works so I don't have to go back and forth with a USB
[16:10] <EriC^^> Nick714: np, this might be useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/16584/how-to-connect-and-disconnect-to-a-network-manually-in-terminal
[16:11] <Nick714> Oh great thanks I'll check it out. I'll be back later if something goes wrong :P
[16:12] <EriC^^> ok :D
[16:14] <Reuds> Hello thanks for the help. Changing the Sata Port helped :3 Luv you
[16:15] <ioria> !yay | Reuds
[16:16] <Reuds> I'm excited about working with Ubuntu studios. Luv you guys realy much.
[16:16] <ioria> and ubuntu is excited to work with you
[16:18] <jemmithy> hi. new convert from windows. pretty cool so far.
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> Reuds there's also #ubuntustudio
[16:20] <freakyy> zteam: ok ... i couldnt install the amd driver. it keeps doing something for a while and then when it tries to put the .deb files and stuff from somewhere into the current folder it only gives "file or directory not found" for all the files. no error message just this.
[16:20] <Reuds> yeah but it more a main Ubuntu Problem how i found out
[16:21] <NJR> How can one contribute to ubuntu?
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> !contribute
[16:28] <NJR> Cool..Thanks
[16:41] <freakyy> ok none of the drivers work for fglrx for my graphics card
[16:41] <freakyy> :(
[16:46] <lantokay> hello
[16:46] <_nemesys> hello
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> hello
[16:46] <prawnonakiwi> hello
[16:46] <EriC^^> hello
[16:47] <lantokay> need some help trying to install chrome remote desktop
[16:49] <flyn4x4> Oh boy
[17:03] <rkeeder> Anyone know how to help with getting a wifi adapter that is not supported in 14.04 working?
[17:03] <rkeeder> The adapter works if I use the 4.3 kernel, but not ready for that yet.
[17:04] <kills> hello, I have an issue with ubuntu 15,10 after it upgraded it had some issues with some packages, which after running full upgrade disapeared, but now when i tried to restart ubuntu wont load
[17:05] <kills> I canaccess terminal but otherwise is just black screen,it does say unknown fstype after decrypting
[17:05] <cocosushi> kills: I had the same problem in ubuntu 12.04, did you ran "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[17:06] <kills> i rando-release-upgrade
[17:06] <cocosushi> it is maybe an issue with lightdm, try reinstalling it
[17:06] <cocosushi> or maybe it is your driver
[17:07] <cocosushi> which graphic card have you got ?
[17:07] <kills> im a novice on linux can youplease provide instructions how to
[17:07] <rkeeder> kills, I'd back up any import files before doing anything.
[17:07] <kills> i have nvidia gt105m
[17:08] <kills> not sure what are import files or how to bakcthem up
[17:08] <freakyy> hi all. how can i get the experimental ati driver as seen here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-experimental-13
[17:08] <rkeeder> kills, you personal files.
[17:08] <freakyy> ?
[17:09] <kills> ok, butI have noclue how to back them up if i only have terminal
[17:09] <cocosushi> kills: if you want to back up files : insert a USB key or drive, and type (in terminal) "sudo mv /home /path/to/USB/key"
[17:09] <kills> and actually dont need all the files Ireally need are online
[17:09] <cocosushi> ok
[17:10] <RudeViper> Good Afternoon all - I have a question that is not entirely Ubuntu related - but is half Ubuntu related. I need to run a program from a usb drive in Both Windows and Linux - how do I set the usb drive up to be able to do that...I also need the data to sync across both platforms.
[17:10] <cocosushi> kills: then don't backup if you don't have anything important
[17:10] <freakyy> cocosushi: dontu want to do cp isntead of mv?
[17:10] <cocosushi> freakyy: ups, sorry, you're right
[17:11] <freakyy> kills dont do mv do cp isntead
[17:11] <kills> not doing backing up
[17:11] <cocosushi> ok
[17:11] <cocosushi> then
[17:11] <cocosushi> freakyy: do you know how to install the nVidia driver ? I don't have any nVidia graphic card
[17:11] <rkeeder> RudeViper, one you should format it as vfat32
[17:12] <SchrodingersScat> I was looking up if linux can execute programs on fat, ntfs is a non starter, right?
[17:13] <kills> my help ran away
[17:13] <freakyy> coco no i have an ati driver
[17:13] <freakyy> i mean card
[17:13] <distrodsk> /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER distrodsk txoyklzaapkj
[17:13] <rkeeder> http://askubuntu.com/questions/23128/how-do-i-execute-a-file-from-a-fat-usb-drive
[17:13] <kills> can anybody else help?
[17:13] <rkeeder> RudeViper, two to exectute follow this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/23128/how-do-i-execute-a-file-from-a-fat-usb-drive
[17:14] <rkeeder> distrodsk you just let everyone see your password
[17:14] <nrdb> SchrodingersScat, it will execute from vfat
[17:14] <RudeViper> rkeeder - thanks - that may be exactly what I am looking for
[17:14] <distrodsk> my password wasnt in that
[17:14] <distrodsk> luckily
[17:14] <distrodsk> thanks for the heads up tho
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> distrodsk better do that in the status window
[17:17] <rkeeder> kills, I would just do a fresh install and try again, if you can't find a specific solution from anyone here.
[17:17] <GhastlySpectre> Is there a way to browse my mobile phone's remote file system using kdeconnect if I'm not on kde?
[17:18] <kills> well i wasted bleep load of time to get steam working on ubuntu after first install
[17:18] <rkeeder> kills, well you should be able to do it faster this time.
[17:18] <kills> well the problem is really want sure what i was doing morelike runing commands
[17:19] <Ubuntu> Hello
[17:19] <Ubuntu> any one is using quickly ?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !info quickly
[17:20] <rkeeder> kills, if you use overlayroot you can test things before they permanently install and then you can reboot without messing up your root system. But it won't work for some things.
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> what's quickly?
[17:20] <Guest86985> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[17:21] <rkeeder> Anyone here know how to get ubuntu to detect a wifi adapter?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> Guest86985 try in #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:21] <Guest86985> i started today with quickly and when i try package it gives me erro
[17:21] <kills> yes thats good to know but I would still rather make iot wokr again instead of reinstalling
[17:22] <Guest86985> An error has occurred when creating debian packaging ERROR: can't create or update ubuntu package ERROR: package command failed Aborting
[17:23] <kills> anyway if somebody here has some time to help a novice with ubuntu 15,10 booting up to a black screen give me a shout
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> Guest86985 it was a program for 12.04
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> Guest86985 i guess it's no longer maintained, used or supported
[17:24] <EriC^^> kills: can you login in ctrl+alt+f1?
[17:24] <kills> yes ican
[17:24] <EriC^^> ok, type dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[17:24] <kills> i can use terminal ran an sudo get update
[17:24] <Guest86985> hm intresting. i found on askubuntu answer "ou are probably using a version of the python-distutils-extra package from the precise-proposed pocket in the archive, that is newer than the stable release and that it is known to cause trouble with the latest Quickly version. Try to downgrade it by running the following command, and then re-run the Quickly packaging command: sudo apt-get install python-distutils-extra=2.32-2" but i ca
[17:25] <EriC^^> kills: are you logged on in irssi on the same pc right now?
[17:25] <kills> nope on differnet pc
[17:25] <jamesguessis> what does it mean to get the error `Illegal instruction (core dumped)` when running a program?
[17:25] <EriC^^> kills: ok, np, type dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 and copy the link here
[17:26] <EriC^^> jamesguessis: looks like an error about public defacation or something, consult a lawyer i guess
[17:26] <kills> http://termbin.com/vl17
[17:27] <intuxicated> I am using ubuntu with java oracle 8 and my ide font is so ugly. http://sk.uploads.im/KHQOu.png any idea how i can fix this?
[17:27] <EriC^^> kills: ok, try lspci | grep VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:27] <rkeeder> Is there anyone here who can help with getting my wifi adapter working?
[17:28] <jamesguessis> ...
[17:28] <rkeeder> My wifi adapter is not recognized with lspci
[17:28] <jamesguessis> makes sense
[17:28] <kills> http://termbin.com/nv2n
[17:28] <nrdb> rkeeder, have you tried to install the resisticted-drivers package
[17:29] <intuxicated> using _JAVA_OPTIONS='-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=lcd' wont help
[17:29] <rkeeder> nrdb, no, I haven't. But the driver is recognized if I upgrade to 4.3 kernel, but I can't use that one for other reasons.
[17:29] <[BNC]Ahav> test
[17:29] <rkeeder> nrdb, Do you think restricted drivers may help with that in consideration?
[17:29] <nrdb> rkeeder, I need to use that to get my wi-fi to go.
[17:30] <rkeeder> nrdb, i see.
[17:30] <nbusrone> TJ- : sorry for coming back late which I promise. Going back to the USB3.0 wakeup port , I just need to do type this echo disabled | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/devices/4-1" ?
[17:30] <rkeeder> I guess I can give it a try.
[17:31] <[BNC]Ahav> test
[17:31] * intuxicated switch to openjdk-8
[17:31] <distrodsk> is there anyone who knows a bit of javascript help me out? im completely new to it, trying to make a theme picker but im lost and cant get any help
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> distrodsk #javascript
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> or ##javascript
[17:32] <distrodsk> is that the same as ##javascript?
[17:32] <momomo> guys, iam running unity
[17:32] <momomo> and I am tired of it
[17:32] <momomo> i fixed one problem and now I have two
[17:32] <EriC^^> kills: try sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> momomo install something else, logout, switch, login
[17:32] <jamesguessis> Unity is horrifying
[17:32] <momomo> is it safe to unitall unity ?
[17:32] <momomo> and what should I switch to?
[17:32] <k1l_> momomo: you can install other desktops if you like and use them.
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> momomo lxde, xfce, mate, kde
[17:33] <intuxicated> distrodsk, whats your problem
[17:33] <rkeeder> momomo, You can always try a different ubuntu flavor, like gnome or elementary.
[17:33] <momomo> MonkeyDust, i guess not gnome3 .. i believe that sucks too
[17:33] <k1l_> momomo: rkeeder elementary is no ubuntu flavor
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> momomo you mean that you don't like it
[17:34] <momomo> gnome3 .. last time i tried it it was lacking .. but i am not sure
[17:34] <k1l_> momomo: its your choice. so we cant tell you what you may like. so try it yourself
[17:34] <distrodsk> intuxicated im trying to make a theme picker where clicking one of several buttons changes the font, color, background of the webpage
[17:34] <kills> EriC^^: got a broken pipe error
[17:34] <rkeeder> k1l_, ok, but close enough fundamentally under the hood.
[17:34] <momomo> k1l_, there is a cost of context switching
[17:34] <momomo> and setup and what not
[17:34] <momomo> so how do I remove unity and all assoicated packages ?
[17:34] <distrodsk> ive made a javascript function where ive declared a variable backgroundcolour
[17:34] <momomo> safely
[17:34] <k1l_> rkeeder: that is why you should ask the elementary support about your issue. we cant know what they changed
[17:35] <k1l_> momomo: you are making more drama than is needed.
[17:35] <EriC^^> kills: ok, type cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> momomo you don't... remove ubuntu and install xubuntu or lubuntu, or kubuntu, or ubuntu-mate
[17:35] <fractal618> How can I keep my WIFI USB powered while the computer is in sleep mode?
[17:36] <rkeeder> k1l_, my issue is exactly the same on Ubuntu, Gnome, Lubuntu and Elementary. Tried them all.
[17:36] <momomo> MonkeyDust, remove ubunut ? i have so much installed .. that would be a tough restart
[17:36] <rkeeder> My wifi adapter is not recognized.
[17:36] <kills> yay this one i already have in history :D, http://termbin.com/czr2
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> momomo then install xubuntu-desktop, it's light and fast
[17:36] <momomo> MonkeyDust, so it's not possible to unsintall unity ?
[17:37] <k1l_> momomo: it is.
[17:37] <k1l_> momomo: so please see the answers and not just carry on ranting
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> momomo i guess it's possible, but not advisable (is that a word?)
[17:38] <momomo> i am getting mixed messages .. k1l_ is it safe to remove unity ? and install say, gnome3 or cinnamon instead?
[17:38] <EriC^^> kills: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall nouveau
[17:38] <EriC^^> kills: hold on
[17:38] <k1l_> momomo: you will need another desktop if you want to remove unity. so dont tell users who answered you " <momomo> k1l_, there is a cost of context switching"
[17:38] <EriC^^> kills: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[17:39] <k1l_> momomo: you can install gnome-shell package from ubuntu repo, log out, chose gnome on login screen. then you are done
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> momomo don't reject every advice you get here
[17:39] <momomo> k1l_, yes, i understand that .. what I meant is that there is a cost so I can't just try and see .. i'd like to get the best on first try
[17:39] <EriC^^> momomo: we can't know which de you'd like that easily
[17:40] <kills> EriC^^: done
[17:40] <EriC^^> you could try them in a vm if you want and see which one you like best momomo
[17:40] <momomo> EriC^^, is it possible to install cinnamon first and then remove unity ?
[17:40] <EriC^^> kills: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic
[17:41] <k1l_> momomo: yes
[17:41] <k1l_> momomo: install the cinnamon desktop package.
[17:42] <momomo> is this guide ok: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/new-cinnamon-ubuntu-14-04-ppa-stable
[17:42] <momomo> and then : apt-get autoremove --purge unity-*
[17:42] <k1l_> momomo: what ubuntu are you on?
[17:42] <freakyy> does anyone here have the latest ati binary driver from the amd website installed? ... it keeps giving me no such file or directory ...
[17:42] <momomo> 14.04
[17:42] <k1l_> momomo: yes, than you need a PPA. like mentioned in that article
[17:43] <momomo> cinnamon is pretty good right? i've heard good things about linuxmint
[17:43] <momomo> i hope it's more stable than and less buggy than unity
[17:43] <momomo> can someone confirm?
[17:43] <k1l_> momomo: its more about if you like the looks.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> momomo and mint is different distro
[17:44] <EriC^^> momomo: i wouldn't do purge unity-*
[17:44] <momomo> EriC^^, yes, maybe .. some people are having problem in that link with this update
[17:44] <kills> EriC^^: done
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> momomo what exactly are you struggling with
[17:45] <EriC^^> kills: ok, type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[17:45] <momomo> MonkeyDust, so many minor things .. but right now, the cup that made it enough ( after 2 years )
[17:45] <momomo> is the the problem with the minimize then maximize mouse coordination error
[17:46] <k1l_> momomo: ah, you are the guys from the last days. that error is gone on 15.10
[17:46] <momomo> i solved it by enabling show live previews .. but i don't use the unity application switcher because it;s not ideal but the cssm application switcher
[17:46] <momomo> k1l_, so i heard, but someone told me today they dind't have it even on 14.04 so i ma thinking there is something in my setup
[17:47] <momomo> but i am not sure
[17:47] <k1l_> momomo: but if you like another desktop environment: just install another and use that. i dont get why you are making such a drama out of it
[17:47] <momomo> k1l_, so just install cinnamon without removing unity /
[17:47] <momomo> ?
[17:47] <HackerII> momomo, just install mate and all that goes with it and things may go back to normal.
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> momomo in 14.04 you need a ppa for cinnamon
[17:48] <k1l_> momomo: install another desktop you like from the repo and see if you like it. no need for debating hours on irc if you might like it. we cant help you on liking a desktop
[17:48] <me-1> hi...how can I install Chrome on ubuntu
[17:49] <kills> EriC^^: typed in the wrong comman now it keeps adding lines and doesnt execute how can i exscape to type in new command
[17:49] <logglog> me-1: open ubuntu software center and isntall chromium
[17:49] <EriC^^> me-1: go to https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/
[17:49] <EriC^^> kills: try ctrl+c
[17:49] <momomo> ok, i will... so when I install cinnamon from a ppa .. will it automatically choose cinnamon as defaut then ?
[17:49] <momomo> will all unity stuff still load and run in the background /
[17:49] <momomo> ?
[17:50] <k1l_> momomo: you need to chose it on login screen. after that it will be the 1st choice everytime
[17:50] <momomo> i am just afraid that I be left surfing for answers on the mobile once i go this router
[17:50] <HackerII> log out pick cinnamon and log back in
[17:50] <momomo> ook thanks
[17:50] <me-1> logglog, EriC^^ what is the diffrence between two..? do I need to add ppa for chrome
[17:50] <logglog> Hello everyone, I opened my home folder and pressed ctrl + H to show hidden files and folders. Now every time i open my home folder it is showing the hidden files and i have to press ctrl+h to hide them every time. how do i fix this?
[17:50] <HackerII> momomo, , if anything looks picky, just do a simple reboot to reset things
[17:50] <k1l_> momomo: when unity is installed but another desktop is uses, it doesnt load unity in the background
[17:50] <EriC^^> me-1: chromium is the open source variant of google chrome, but i dont think it has pepperflash i dunno, i think you have to install that or add it
[17:50] <kills> http://sprunge.us/lgBr
[17:51] <logglog> Chromium is the open-source project that forms the basis for Google Chrome. Because it’s completely open source, Chromium is available in many Linux distributions’ software repositories for easier installation.
[17:51] <BluesKaj> me-1, chrome will add it's own ppa if you use the deb package to install
[17:52] <momomo> ook
[17:52] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, chrome uses it's own embedded flash plugin , no pepper needed
[17:52] <EriC^^> kills: are you sure of the link? it says not found
[17:52] <logglog> if you want chrome go https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/ but at the end its the same as crhome
[17:52] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: yeah, i meant chromium, does it have flash too?
[17:53] <kills> http://sprunge.us/MfEU
[17:53] <BluesKaj> chromium does yes
[17:53] <kills> tried again now seems to load
[17:53] <BluesKaj> but it's pepper Ithink
[17:53] <EriC^^> kills: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-340
[17:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[17:56] <logglog> Hello everyone, I opened my home folder and pressed ctrl + H to show hidden files and folders. Now every time i open my home folder it is showing the hidden files and i have to press ctrl+h to hide them every time. how do i fix this?
[17:57] <the_count> Bashing-om: Are you around?
[17:57] <droppyoppy> hi, whats the way to KILL a process from terminal
[17:57] <droppyoppy> i know about kill and killall
[17:58] <the_count> droppyoppy: There are search engines out there
[17:59] <kills> EriC^^: done
[17:59] <droppyoppy> the_count, yeah and everybody pointing to kill
[17:59] <k1l_> droppyoppy: what is the issue with "kill"
[17:59] <diddledan> droppyoppy, that's because kill is the answer
[18:00] <kills> dont look at me i have no answers
[18:00] <droppyoppy> kill sends SIGTERM signal, its like safe kill, not what i want
[18:00] <parapan> Hi all; I use pscp from putty to copy a zip file to ubuntu 14.04 server ...it's showing me the transfer but the file cannot be found on the server ....why ?
[18:00] <diddledan> droppyoppy, kill will send whatever signal you want to send
[18:01] <diddledan> s/want to/tell it to/
[18:01] <kills> EriC^^: you still there?
[18:02] <EriC^^> yup
[18:02] <EriC^^> back
[18:02] <EriC^^> kills: ok, try sudo service lightdm restart
[18:03] <the_count> droppyoppy: Are you root?
[18:03] <kills> systemctl status litghdm.service
[18:03] <diddledan> I'm spartacus
[18:04] <diddledan> I mean root
[18:04] <kills> and journalctl-xe for details
[18:04] <droppyoppy> yes, ok i read about SIGKILL
[18:04] <EriC^^> kills: try sudo systemctl start lightdm
[18:04] <EriC^^> or restart
[18:05] <the_count> droppyoppy: ' sudo kill -9 pid ' or substitute -9 with -SIGKILL
[18:05] <kills> same thing got back error
[18:05] <kills> reboot?
[18:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:06] <stewi> Just wondering if any of you guys would know what could be causing an intermittent network connection? I've used ethtool to change duplex and speed to 10/half with autonegotiation turned off, and ping to 8.8.8.8 is still loosing %50 of packets. I would suspect a hardware issue as the issue has survived a reinstall from another distro if it wasn't for the regularity in timing and length of the network outages. Feels like something is timing
[18:06] <stewi> out and restarting. Almost exactly 50% of packets are being dropped.
[18:07] <nbusrone> Anyone know , why does an external 3.5 hard drive doesn't have a safely remove option on 14.04 ? I occur when the hard drive was started before the PC is turn on but if booted into 14.04 and started the drive , it show a safely remove option.
[18:07] <kills> EriC^^: same thing just now it blinked some screen for a milisecond
[18:07] <kills> and back to blacka again
[18:08] <EriC^^> kills: do you have autologin enabled?
[18:08] <kills> no
[18:08] <kills> i have a crypt
[18:08] <droppyoppy> i tried, but does child process (one we want to kill) has any chanses on closing open file discriptors then receiving SIGKILL
[18:08] <Sonderblade> stewi: have you tried mtr yet?
[18:08] <the_count> ubusrone: The option is still there, except you have to go into the ' Disk Utility ' to click it
[18:08] <EriC^^> kills: try cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[18:08] <EriC^^> does it say anything next to autologin ?
[18:09] <stewi> Sonderblade: nope, havn't heard of it.
[18:09] <kills> idont see any logins
[18:09] <stewi> Sonderblade: I'll have a look
[18:09] <kills> and i use to have the gray log inwindow with my username and a pass to type in
[18:09] <Sonderblade> stewi: install it, then run mtr google.<your-tld> and see which host is dropping packets
[18:09] <EriC^^> kills: ok
[18:10] <EriC^^> kills: try sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[18:10] <kills> autologin is false
[18:10] <kills> purge it is then
[18:10] <parapan> Hi all; I use pscp from putty to copy a zip file to ubuntu 14.04 server ...it's showing me the transfer but the file cannot be found on the server ....why ?
[18:10] <nitish> How can I use gnome-shell instead of default ubuntu ui?
[18:11] <stewi> It's the servers NIC that is dropping packets. Every other host on the network is fine
[18:11] <droppyoppy> http://superuser.com/questions/594508/whats-the-difference-between-sigkill-and-sigstop here they say SIGKILL can not be caught, but it still looks like telnet successfully closes open connection
[18:11] <stewi> Sonderblade: It's the servers NIC that is dropping packets. Every other host on the network is fin
[18:11] <stewi> The server being the computer that I'm trying to get working
[18:11] <the_count> nitish: You should see a button at login from which you can change the window manager you log in to
[18:13] <droppyoppy> nitish, white button with unity logo across your username
[18:13] <nitish> the_count: i've just installed gnome-shell and there is no such button when i locked pc.
[18:13] <the_count> nitish: Try logging all the way out
[18:14] <nitish> the_count: should I restart?
[18:14] <droppyoppy> the_count, do you know about any more mighty kill option, its just for test purposes so can be dirty ways
[18:15] <kills> EriC^^: done
[18:15] <the_count> nitish: Probably wouldn't be a bad idea... Click the unity button next to your password box and you should be able to switch
[18:15] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[18:15] <the_count> droppyoppy: I'm not sure there are any more commands out there...
[18:16] <Joshua^Dunamis> #linux-it
[18:16] <Sonderblade> stewi: then why are you asking for help?
[18:16] <kills> got a different descryot window
[18:16] <dsadsddfxc> Hello! How can I enable vsync in fglrx?
[18:16] <Joshua^Dunamis> sorry... I forgot the / on the last command
[18:17] <stewi> Sonderblade: I'm asking because I can't get the server to connect to any network properly, WAN or not.
[18:17] <cdk_> has anybody had any luck installing and using virtualbox?
[18:17] <the_count> cdk_: Yes
[18:18] <brenlae> so the catalyst drivers work now
[18:18] <brenlae> for 15.10
[18:18] <brenlae> as i am running them, hooray :)
[18:18] <kills> and some error on device mapper saying failed remove ioctl onsda5_crypt faileddevice or resource busy
[18:18] <Na3iL> dsadsddfxc, take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260969
[18:20] <dsadsddfxc> Na3iL, there aren't answers :-(
[18:20] <Sonderblade> stewi: if you *know* the problem is the nic dropping packets, then the problem is faulty hw
[18:20] <Na3iL> Yep dsadsddfxc it is a tutorial
[18:20] <icantlogin> hey, i have no idea what channel to join to discuss microprocessors/microcontrollers. can someone direct me to a more fitting channel
[18:20] <stewi> Sorry, when I say NIC is dropping packets, I meant to say the host was dropping packets. My mistake.
[18:21] <EriC^^> kills: hmm so it didn't boot to lightdm and a black screen?
[18:21] <the_count> icantlogin: Looks like you were able to log in... What type of microcontrollers?
[18:21] <Na3iL> lol
[18:21] <stewi> running tcpdump on the server and sending pings to it results in no packet loss.
[18:21] <kills> EriC^^: it booted to a black screen with smaller font now writing errors about decrypt
[18:21] <kills> well after i unlocked the password for encryption
[18:22] <cdk_> ok i installed it on ubuntu 14.04 but it is telling me that it unable somtething
[18:22] <EriC^^> kills: try rebooting again i guess
[18:22] <kills> and when unlocking crypt it also says unknow fstype
[18:22] <kills> doing that nopw
[18:22] <stewi> while pinging from the server results in packet loss.
[18:22] <icantlogin> the_count: i was, after about 2 hours. i'm doing an electronic project and am trying to pick a suitable one
[18:22] <stewi> Sonderblade: running tcpdump on the server and sending pings to it results in no packet loss.
[18:22] <stewi> Sonderblade: Sorry, when I say NIC is dropping packets, I meant to say the host was dropping packets. My mistake.
[18:23] <kills> same error
[18:23] <kills> my guess it probably candecrypt and us the sda5_crypt
[18:23] <kills> cant decrypt*
[18:23] <the_count> icantlogin: What have you looked at so far, what type of ecosystem are you lookig for?
[18:23] <EriC^^> kills: yeah
[18:23] <cdk_> the_count:: ok i installed it on ubuntu 14.04 but it is telling me that it is unable to do somtething
[18:23] <EriC^^> kills: do you have a live usb you can use?
[18:24] <kills> ido
[18:24] <Sonderblade> stewi: i think it is better to measure packet loss by wget:ing a large file or using mtr because it saturates the bandwidth
[18:24] <EriC^^> kills: ok, try booting it
[18:24] <nitish> in gnome-shell there is no option for minimize the tab? how can I minimize the tab?
[18:25] <the_count> cdk_: Welll, you have to tell us what it will not do.
[18:25] <kills> now im consideering if boot fresh to try out mint
[18:25] <cdk_> the_count: ok just a sec....
[18:25] <icantlogin> the_count: i want something to base a low spec cartridge-loaded console around. i looked at the z80 but it seems a tad too underpowered
[18:26] <icantlogin> only on this channel because it's a known entity
[18:26] <stewi> Sonderblade: I'm talking Timeframes of about 30 seconds. For 30 seconds, no packets will leave the server apart from packets within TCP connections that are already open.
[18:26] <icantlogin> there was supposed to be an i'm in there
[18:26] <the_count> icantlogin: Explain a bit further, I'm still lost: ' base a low spec cartridge-loaded console around '
[18:27] <stewi> Then for another 30 seconds it can make new connections, and then it fails again for 30 seconds.
[18:27] <k1l_> !alis | icantlogin
[18:27] <logglog> Hello everyone, I opened my home folder and pressed ctrl + H to show hidden files and folders. Now every time i open my home folder it is showing the hidden files and i have to press ctrl+h to hide them every time. how do i fix this?
[18:27] <nbusrone> Does anyone know how to disable USB3.0 sleep option ? because the pc keep on rebooting when an external usb 3.0 was plugin
[18:28] <EriC^^> logglog: edit > preferences > show hidden files
[18:28] <nitish> How can I minimize a tab in gnome-shell?
[18:28] <icantlogin> the_count: ah, i'm building a homebrew game console.
[18:28] <kills> EriC^^: thanks for allthe help,but ill probably try fresh install
[18:29] <EriC^^> kills: ok, no problem
[18:29] <biapy> hi, how can i delay swapon by mountall at boot on 15.10 wily (the swapon occurs before hibernation data restoration , and it prevent hibernation recovery)
[18:29] <the_count> icantlogin: This is off topic... but, check out: Intel Edison, Raspberry Pi, Arduino even...
[18:29] <cdk_> the_count:: http://imgur.com/xOLLRTQ
[18:29] <logglog> Eric^^ works, thx
[18:30] <EriC^^> logglog: np
[18:30] <ubuntu480> hello i'm trying to install this package on ubuntu server 14.04 "apt-get install python-xdelta3" but getting error :Unable to locate package python-xdelta3
[18:30] <ubuntu480> any one can help?
[18:30] <k1l_> ubuntu480: there is no such package on ubuntu
[18:30] <nitish> Background tranparancy of terminal is not working in gnome-shell..
[18:30] <icantlogin> the_count: any good channels?
[18:30] <k1l_> ubuntu480: "anymore". to be precise.
[18:30] <biapy> ubuntu480, this package is only available in precise pengolin
[18:31] <the_count> cdk_: Ok, see that command it mentioned there... ' /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup ' // Execute that
[18:31] <biapy> ubuntu480, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/python-xdelta3
[18:31] <nitish> Is there any other ui like gnome-shell?
[18:31] <k1l_> ubuntu480: so that software might be out of date. what are you doing there?
[18:32] <the_count> icantlogin: #arduino, #raspbian
[18:33] <ubuntu480> i have to install cloudlets library from following link https://code.activestate.com/pypm/cloudlet/ and this package is require.
[18:33] <biapy> ubuntu480, try to install it manually by downloading it from the page i gave you
[18:34] <biapy> ubuntu480, success is not garanted... you may also try to build the package for your distribution
[18:35] <ubuntu480> ok thanx
[18:35] <icantlogin> the_count: thanks a bunch
[18:35] <Shibe> http://www.yourownlinux.com/2015/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-4-2-0-in-linux.html
[18:36] <Shibe> is it safe to do this?
[18:36] <Shibe> could it break things?
[18:36] <EriC^^> Shibe: which ubuntu are you using?
[18:36] <logglog> okey ppl, this day i am switching to linux 100%, no dual boot anymore T_T
[18:36] <Shibe> ubuntu 14.04 /mint 17.2
[18:36] <ikonia> Shibe: why do you want to do this ?
[18:36] <Shibe> the linuxmint channel isnt super helpful
[18:36] <Shibe> ikonia: just curious
[18:36] <cdk_> the_count:: it tried this is what it gave me... http://imgur.com/eTvjoan
[18:36] <ikonia> Shibe: take it to the mint channel please
[18:37] <Shibe> well they arent very helpful but ok
[18:37] <tumbler> Joshua^Dunamis, hi pal
[18:37] <tumbler> what's up?
[18:37] <ikonia> thanks
[18:40] <tumbler> i am uncertain about what to install ... why ubuntu?
[18:40] <ikonia> try it
[18:40] <ikonia> see if you like it
[18:40] <ikonia> id you don't try something else
[18:40] <tumbler> there are real advantage in opposite to others
[18:40] <stewi> Any idea why a new ubuntu server install would have an intermittent ability to make new TCP connections?
[18:41] <ikonia> tumbler: the main different is the desktop, unity
[18:41] <tumbler> can i install on an old pc?
[18:41] <ikonia> other than that, it's jsut another linux distro with good/bad things that each person will like/dislike
[18:41] <ikonia> depends
[18:41] <the_count> cdk_: 'sudo apt-get install dkms'
[18:41] <k1l_> tumbler: on old hardware better see Lubuntu.
[18:41] <CircuitZero> I've been having a hell of a time with xorg.conf - I've tried more than a few steps, would anyone like to help me debug? http://pastebin.com/sTtBZUf0
[18:42] <biapy> tumbler, lubuntu or xubuntu is your friend for pc with 2GB ram or less
[18:43] <tumbler> can i install lxqt???
[18:43] <ikonia> yes, but you should check if there is a package for it
[18:43] <ikonia> as that will make your life easier
[18:44] <tumbler> should i start by net cd??
[18:44] <ikonia> no
[18:44] <ikonia> use the stadnard CD
[18:44] <stewi> CircuitZero what exactly is the problem?
[18:44] <cdk_> the_count:: Its doing the same thing
[18:45] <redeyers> bro
[18:45] <the_count> cdk_: Well... i'm not sure what to say, this is completeley cout of my realm, try looking it up or getting someone else to help you
[18:46] <cdk_> kk thanks for trying to help me
[18:46] <redeyers> whoami?
[18:46] <redeyers> what dog?
[18:47] <boxmein> hey
[18:47] <boxmein> does anyone here know of a cross-cloud or whatever service that'd let me use onedrive on ubuntu
[18:48] <boxmein> because I have a load of files on onedrive already and do not feel like moving over to whichever provider has a linux today
[18:48] <ikonia> I think you'll struggle for that
[18:48] <redeyers> Hahahhaha
[18:48] <redeyers> nice bro
[18:48] <ikonia> redeyers: please stop with the random comments
[18:48] <ikonia> redeyers: you're in #ubuntu and IRC channel for the ubuntu linux distribution support
[18:49] <biapy> boxmein, seafile is a nice dropbox alternative... it may be of help (but not onedrive compatible)
[18:50] <boxmein> I mean there's StorageMadeEasy but can anyone vouch that it's legit
[18:50] <boxmein> https://eu.storagemadeeasy.com/
[18:50] <wafflejock1> boxmein: DropBox works cross platform, if you want something you can run yourself OwnCloud is an option
[18:50] <boxmein> wafflejock1: yea, I use dropbox already :P
[18:50] <boxmein> wafflejock1: and gdrive, et al
[18:51] <boxmein> it's just that parts of my school stuff are on onedrive
[18:51] <boxmein> meh I'll move them to gdrive and survive
[18:51] <biapy> boxmein, for a decentralized approach : syncthing
[18:51] <stewi> I don't belive this. The moment I start running a packet sniffer the problem goes away.
[18:55] <AQLIVE> anyone here how know about dual boot?
[18:55] <stewi> So the server fails to ping specific hosts. It can ping my desktop just fine, but can't ping the router it's plugged into, while I can ping the same rounter just fine/
[18:55] <AQLIVE> I installed ubuntu and now I can't boot in windows anymore. I can see the windows partition still but I can not boot into that anymore
[18:55] <AQLIVE> I tried to do a update-grub but that didt help either
[18:56] <cap0>
[18:56] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: which windows?
[18:56] <AQLIVE> 7
[18:56] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:56] <AQLIVE> Hi Eric I think you tied to help me on friday
[18:56] <AQLIVE> with the problem
[18:56] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:56] <stewi> AQLIVE: you're sure you didn't overwrite the windows boot partition
[18:56] <AQLIVE> I'm now back on ubuntu
[18:57] <AQLIVE> I don't know
[18:57] <AQLIVE> how can I tell?
[18:57] <AQLIVE> I can still see the windows partion
[18:58] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: run the command and paste the link here
[18:58] <AQLIVE> if I did overwite the boot partions is there anyway to get it back
[18:58] <AQLIVE> the update command?
[18:58] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: no, sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:58] <AQLIVE> I did that and when I restaretd I was booted directly into ubuntu
[18:58] <stewi> EriC is ont eh right track, get the output of parted -l.
[18:59] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: it should give you a link to a pastebin
[18:59] <stewi> that command will give you a link,
[18:59] <stewi> put the link in here.
[19:00] <AQLIVE> after entering that command it tell me to use natcat
[19:01] <AQLIVE> am I doing something wrong
[19:01] <sam_> when i run this command "fab install" i got this error: Fatal error: Need hardware VM support (vmx) Aborting. Disconnecting from localhost... done.
[19:01] <stewi> I don't understand what you mean by tells you to use natcat
[19:01] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: ok, try sudo parted -l | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[19:02] <AQLIVE> http://sprunge.us/LIfB
[19:02] <AQLIVE> is that correct
[19:02] <EriC^^> hmm, it's empty
[19:02] <stewi> two newline characters and a space, nope. SOmethign failed.
[19:03] <stewi> two newline characters and a space, nope. Somethign failed.
[19:03] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try sudo parted -l , does that work?
[19:03] <ke4nhw> Does ubuntu deal with processor cores differently from other OS's? I'm finding that for some reason after security updates installed I cannot reboot the OS in VirtualBox, it crashes; unless I reduce the processors to 1
[19:03] <AQLIVE> command not found
[19:03] <AQLIVE> is it because it's in MBR mode insted of grub mode?
[19:03] <stewi> How many cores did you have running when you installed it ke4nhw
[19:03] <AQLIVE> if yes how do I change it back to brug
[19:04] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: are you sure you're typing parted ?
[19:04] <AQLIVE> grub
[19:04] <stewi> AQLIVE fdisk -l
[19:04] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: try sudo fdisk -l
[19:04] <sam_> someone provide help ? when i run this command "fab install" i got this error: Fatal error: Need hardware VM support (vmx) Aborting. Disconnecting from localhost... done.
[19:05] <jack-the-ripper> Is it possible to install fonts in lubuntu?
[19:05] <AQLIVE> yes and what do you need in this section
[19:05] <biapy> is there a way to prioritize pm hibernate restoration over swap mount ?
[19:05] <stewi> jack-the-ripper: have you tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/3697/how-do-i-install-fonts?
[19:06] <AQLIVE> hang on it me how is fu.... stupid - sorry guys. I do the parted again hang on
[19:06] <stewi> press <ctrl>-H to show hidden files fyi.
[19:06] <jack-the-ripper> I'll check that out
[19:06] <ke4nhw> 2
[19:07] <ke4nhw> Same as I set all my vm's
[19:07] <ke4nhw> from install onward
[19:07] <stewi> That's trippy man.
[19:07] <ke4nhw> In fact I didn't change anything in the vm setup between boots
[19:07] <ke4nhw> yea
[19:08] <ke4nhw> But it's running now on one core
[19:08] <jack-the-ripper> Thank you, that got them installed :)
[19:09] <stewi> Np, didn't think I'd end up helping someone while I tried to get help myself on here.
[19:09] <ke4nhw> it may not be staying anyway unless I can get ltsp up and operational
[19:09] <AQLIVE> ok so now I got something on the partede -l nc . . . . .
[19:09] <ke4nhw> Truth be told I'm a RedHat guy, always have been, only running Ubuntu cuz ltsp isn't native in RH
[19:10] <AQLIVE> what do you need
[19:10] <AQLIVE> 1,2,5,6 are the numbers and the first one shows primary ntfs boot flag
[19:10] <fsociety> hello.
[19:10] <AQLIVE> that should be my windows partitions
[19:10] <stewi> AQLIVE run this 'sudo parted -l | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us'
[19:10] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: copy the output of sudo parted -l and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[19:10] <AQLIVE> partition
[19:10] <ke4nhw> I do have one interesting question should there be any takers on this controversial issue...
[19:11] <stewi> Or do what EriC said, that works too.
[19:11] <stewi> I love contoversey
[19:11] <ke4nhw> I noticed yesterday during the install that the root password couldn't be set right away, which I got fixed. It's corrupted by default in ubuntu server 14
[19:12] <ke4nhw> But everything that root can do is capable of being done via an admin user with sudo
[19:12] <game0> guys, I'm trying to install java jdk a file in my ubuntu server using this command
[19:12] <ke4nhw> What is the difference then, and what does corrupting root gain anyone?
[19:12] <game0> tar -zxf jdk-7u79-linux-x64.tar.gz -C /opt/jdk
[19:12] <ke4nhw> Other than no root login?
[19:12] <AQLIVE> done poster called aqlive
[19:12] <game0> and the error
[19:13] <game0> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[19:13] <game0> tar: Child returned status 1
[19:13] <game0> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[19:13] <stewi> ke4nhw I'm with you on this one.
[19:13] <AQLIVE> can it be fixed ?
[19:13] <AQLIVE> or have I really screwed the system
[19:13] <dominik> yes
[19:13] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: what's the link?
[19:13] <dominik> hello my friendy
[19:13] <stewi> sudo -i is muscle memory for me though.
[19:13] <ke4nhw> And before everyone has a heart attack, yes I do a good bit of my work with sudo, but more to make everyone else happy than because it's better.
[19:13] <AQLIVE> paste.ubuntu.com/13453212
[19:14] <dominik> :D
[19:14] <ke4nhw> First: unless the sudoer file is sufficiently edited, a sudo user can do anything. So they can obliterate a system just as quickly as root, only requiring one more entry of their password of course
[19:14] <game0> can someone help me
[19:14] <game0> ?
[19:14] <dominik> now port 431
[19:14] <ke4nhw> so 'cd / && rm -rf' is just as bad for one as the other.
[19:15] <ke4nhw> thanks stewi glad to see someone else sees the logic here
[19:15] <dominik> sudo su
[19:15] <stewi> AQLIVE: you didn't overwrite your boot partition, you overwrit your windows partition as far as I can tell.
[19:16] <ke4nhw> sudo is best for admins you want to LIMIT what they can do. It allows them to perform some functions, while blocking others
[19:16] <game0> tar -zxf jdk-7u79-linux-x64.tar.gz -C /opt/jdk
[19:16] <pauljw> ke4nhw: no need to post dangerous commands here and you need to take the discussion to #off-topic it's not support related.
[19:16] <ke4nhw> If it's configured for that
[19:16] <game0> and the error
[19:16] <AQLIVE> is that a way to get it back
[19:16] <game0> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[19:16] <stewi> want no, nevermind, that is your windows partition
[19:16] <ke4nhw> my apologies
[19:16] <AQLIVE> and up and running again?
[19:16] <game0> tar: Child returned status 1
[19:16] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[19:16] <game0> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[19:16] <ke4nhw> hence the "just as bad" part.
[19:16] <stewi> AQLIVE your "boot" partition is actually the windows partition
[19:16] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: then type ls -l /mnt/ntldr
[19:16] <ke4nhw> I'll move over there, thanks
[19:17] <game0> tar.gz I cannot extract it
[19:17] <pauljw> ke4nhw: no problem, thanks
[19:17] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: hold on
[19:17] <EriC^^> AQLIVE: type ls -l /mnt/bootmgr
[19:17] <goddard> can i install Google Chrome in a chroot?
[19:17] <stewi> ntldr is a win xp thing isn't it?
[19:17] <ke4nhw> what's the ubuntu off topic room or social room
[19:18] <wafflejock1> game0: any way you can verify the download isn't corrupt (md5 hash or anything)?
[19:18] <stewi> Never seen it on 7.
[19:18] <k1l_> !ot | ke4nhw
[19:18] <ke4nhw> ok
[19:18] <EriC^^> stewi: nah, i've seen it used to boot non-uefi win8
[19:18] <stewi> ok
[19:19] <stewi> I try stay away from it anyways.
[19:19] <ioria> game0, no problem in using that command .....
[19:19] <stewi> Especially with the new included spyware that comes with it.
[19:19] <AQLIVE_> Model: ATA SAMSUNG MZ7LN128 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 128GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags: Number Start End Size Type File system Flags 1 1049kB 65.1GB 65.1GB primary ntfs boot 2 65.1GB 128GB 62.9GB extended 5 65.1GB 70.2GB 5119MB logical linux-swap(v1) 6 70.2GB 128GB 57.8GB logical ext4
[19:19] <AQLIVE_> is what I get Eric
[19:19] <ioria> game0, /opt/jdk exists ? try with sudo
[19:20] <game0> ok
[19:20] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[19:20] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: then type ls -l /mnt/bootmgr
[19:20] <game0> I'll try to download it
[19:20] <stewi> I digress. Nobody seems to know why my ubuntu server would have an intermittent network connection.
[19:21] <AQLIVE_> ls -l /mnt/bootmgr
[19:21] <AQLIVE_> cannot access
[19:21] <AQLIVE_> is what I get
[19:21] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: did you type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ?
[19:22] <AQLIVE_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so.
[19:22] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: hmm
[19:23] <stewi> I'll be off then. If my intermittent network problem persists with a new Gigabit NIC and I can't get it running with a couple of days of work I'll post in the forums. For now I'll put up with 50% of requests getting through.
[19:23] <stewi> Better than 0%
[19:25] <owner_> hi
[19:26] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: try sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1
[19:27] <AQLIVE_> Mounting volume... ntfs_mst_post_read_fixup_warn: magic: 0x82e8e34f size: 1024 usa_ofs: 15222 usa_count: 21428: Invalid argument Record 0 has no FILE magic (0x82e8e34f) Failed to load $MFT: Input/output error FAILED Attempting to correct errors... ntfs_mst_post_read_fixup_warn: magic: 0x82e8e34f size: 1024 usa_ofs: 15222 usa_count: 21428: Invalid argument Record 0 has no FILE magic (0x82e8e34f) Failed to load $MFT: Input/outp
[19:28] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[19:28] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: can you type dmesg | tail and paste that as well?
[19:29] <AQLIVE_> ok sorry
[19:32] <AQLIVE_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454174/
[19:33] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: ok, try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[19:33] <EriC^^> if it fails, type dmesg | tail and paste it
[19:34] <AQLIVE_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454230/
[19:34] <EriC^^> ok, try dmesg | tail and paste the output
[19:35] <AQLIVE_> dmesg is /bin/dmesg
[19:35] <vicsar> .
[19:36] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: dmesg | tail
[19:37] <AQLIVE_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454338/
[19:38] <iaj> j
[19:39] <AQLIVE_> did that bring you close to a solution :d
[19:39] <EriC^^> well it's a bit better, i think the disk isn't toast
[19:39] <AQLIVE_> lol
[19:39] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: run sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1 and paste the output
[19:39] <AQLIVE_> but can I get my windows 7 up and running again :d
[19:40] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: yeah, if we can get it to mount it it should run i guess
[19:40] <AQLIVE_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454495/
[19:42] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: do you have a windows cd somewhere?
[19:43] <EriC^^> i think you need to run chkdsk
[19:43] <AQLIVE_> not right now but if I did what sould I do
[19:43] <AQLIVE_> and after that
[19:43] <cdk_> can i get help with installing a third os on my hard drive my issue is grub wont let me boot from a usb
[19:45] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: do you have important data on it?
[19:45] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[19:45] <AQLIVE_> done then what
[19:45] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: type sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[19:46] <droppyoppy> cdk_, booting from usb is configured in bios, not grub
[19:47] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am on ... What is the current status ?
[19:47] <AQLIVE_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13454851/
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> cdk_ boot the pc, then hit F12 for the boot device menu (maybe something different from F12)
[19:48] <cdk_> why wont grub let me boot from an usb
[19:49] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: type sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> cdk_ that'sz not what grub does, you're seeing it wrong
[19:49] <AQLIVE_> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:50] <AQLIVE_> http://termbin.com/ni17
[19:50] <ioria> cdk_, but the third OS is already installed ?
[19:51] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: ok, try sudo apt-get install testdisk
[19:52] <AQLIVE_> and then
[19:53] <EriC^^> sudo testdisk
[19:53] <hexhaxtron> In aptitude how can I deselect all packages containing ':i386'?
[19:54] <cdk_> no i am trying to install a third os from a u8sb but it will not let me boot from usb it just goes too grub and gives a choice of the 2 already installed
[19:54] <AQLIVE_> what shoudl I select here : Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done.
[19:55] <k1l_> cdk_: see in tha hardwares manual what key to press to get a "where to boot from" menue
[19:55] <droppyoppy> cdk_, looks like bois is gooing strait to booting from hard drive. you should reconfigure it
[19:56] <k1l_> cdk_: so if there is he grub, its already to late for boot from usb. so see the manual or bios settings
[19:56] <AQLIVE_> eric how shouild I proceed
[19:57] <xodia_data> hello
[19:58] <ioria> cdk_, can you access the bios setup ?
[19:58] <cdk_> ok i have bios set to boot from usb first but it is just goin to grub
[19:59] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: select Intel
[19:59] <AQLIVE_> and then analyse
[19:59] <AQLIVE_> ?
[19:59] <ioria> cdk_, bad usb ?
[19:59] <EriC^^> no, go to advanced
[19:59] <AQLIVE_> ok
[19:59] <AQLIVE_> and then
[19:59] <ikonia> cdk_: you are not using ubuntu
[19:59] <k1l_> cdk_: then check if the usb is ok to boot from. maybe from another pc or vm
[19:59] <ikonia> please take this to mint
[19:59] <EriC^^> is there a backup bootsector?
[20:00] <AQLIVE_> nope
[20:00] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: or fix MFT or so?
[20:00] <AQLIVE_> HPFS NTFS, E Extended, L Linux swap, X extended, L Linux
[20:01] <AQLIVE_> is what I have
[20:01] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: select the NTFS one
[20:01] <AQLIVE_> ok
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> AQLIVE_ havent followed, what was your initial question?
[20:01] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: at the bottom does it say Boot?
[20:02] <AQLIVE_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13455538/
[20:02] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: grub wont pick up windows, upon further inspection can't mount the windows partition, ntfsfix didn't help much
[20:02] <cdk_> i can boot from the usb on other computers
[20:02] <ikonia> cdk_: you are using mint
[20:02] <azizLIGHT> i got onto my dads computer via livecd in teamviewer. what can i do to troubleshoot why their os doesnt detect any boot device on regular bootup without linux livecd?
[20:02] <ikonia> this is not an ubuntu problem - please stop asking
[20:03] <azizLIGHT> s/os/bios/
[20:03] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: ok, does it give any options or so?
[20:03] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: question, how did you shrink the windows partition before installing ubuntu?
[20:03] <AQLIVE_> in the bottom there is quit, list, org bs, rebuild bs, dump,copy bootsectorover backup sector
[20:04] <goddard> how can i installed google chrome in a chroot or container?
[20:04] <AQLIVE_> I selected other the installer menu and then I selected to install linux on a partition that was notthe windeos
[20:04] <ikonia> goddard: same way as a normal install
[20:05] <cdk_> ok? you would know what os i am running how??
[20:05] <ikonia> the whole point of being chrooted is that you are in that root directory
[20:05] <ikonia> cdk_: because you're talking about it in other channels, and I can see what you're typing
[20:05] <ikonia> so stop trying to dodge it and just deal with it in mint
[20:05] <prodigel> Funny message I got when trying to restart apache after setting up a new virtualhost (with errors): [....] Starting apache2 (via systemctl): apache2.serviceJob for apache2.service failed. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[20:06] <ikonia> prodigel: nothign funny about that - check the config
[20:06] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: try repair bs
[20:06] <prodigel> Am I supposed to learn the systemd OS to read the error logs nowadays, or is there a way to disable the apache / systemd coupling?
[20:06] <AQLIVE_> there is not repair
[20:06] <ikonia> prodigel: what ?
[20:06] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: this page is pretty interesting and might help http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Advanced_NTFS_Boot_and_MFT_Repair
[20:06] <ikonia> prodigel: I told you to check the conifg
[20:07] <ikonia> thats nothing to do with "the system"
[20:07] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: repair bs? you mentioned it earlier
[20:07] <cdk_> so what if i am on other channels getting help?
[20:08] <AQLIVE_> nope rebuild bs
[20:08] <prodigel> @ikonia: I was used to check the apache error.log file. I can see now that that's not the case anymore
[20:08] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: oh ok, try it
[20:08] <ikonia> prodigel: you can still check the apache log file
[20:08] <ikonia> you can still look in the syslog
[20:09] <ikonia> but it's not starting because the config for apache is broken, which is why I've said, look at the apache config
[20:09] <prodigel> ikonia, I got that, I know exactly what the problem is. But I'm used to work with apache in a way - read APACHE's logs - and now it's not happening anymore like that
[20:10] <prodigel> I was asking for a way to disable this behavior
[20:10] <ikonia> prodigel: as I've said - you can still read apaches logs and the syslog EXACTLY the same as before
[20:10] <ikonia> prodigel: there is no behaviour to disble
[20:11] <prodigel> ikonia, apache logs are not reporting anything, syslog does indeed.
[20:11] <ikonia> prodigel: apache will only report if it's an apache error, this is not, this is a config error
[20:11] <AQLIVE_> Eric: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13455921/
[20:12] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: ok, try rebuild bs
[20:13] <AQLIVE_> that is what I did and then I get that message
[20:13] <AQLIVE_> or status
[20:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: Whoops, I was gone there for a while but signed in...
[20:13] <the_count> Bashing-om: Did you see what I said last night to TJ-?
[20:14] <Edwardd> I did not see...
[20:14] <AQLIVE_> so what now
[20:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: :) .. I bounce around a lot too .. What is the status ? // No I must have left before the esteemed TJ- joined .
[20:15] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: try to get a windows cd and run chkdsk
[20:15] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: you could quit testdisk and try mounting again, but it doesn't look like it fixed it
[20:15] <AQLIVE_> ok and not repair instead of an installation
[20:15] <Edwardd> You can do that with out windows cd
[20:16] <AQLIVE_> what will a chkdsk do
[20:16] <nbrecht01> Hello!
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> !who | Edwardd
[20:16] <cdk_> any help with grub?
[20:16] <Edwardd> Oh excuse me
[20:17] <nbrecht01> cdk_: Waht kind of help do you need
[20:17] <the_count> Bashing-om: Last evening, my wifi stopped working, so I had a thought to try ' sudo service lightdm restart ' to see if I wouldn't have to reboot, anyway, It was taking too long, so I reset the machine, and Lo and Behold... The display/cousor was working again.... Although synaptics still has problems
[20:18] <AQLIVE_> eric: what will chkdsk do?
[20:18] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: run a filesystem check i guess
[20:18] <AQLIVE_> and whould it be better to do repair with the installation cd
[20:18] <AQLIVE_> that will not leave me with a working system just a check
[20:19] <AQLIVE_> ???
[20:19] <Edwardd> Yes
[20:19] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: no, it will fix it too
[20:19] <AQLIVE_> ok I'll try it then.
[20:19] <AQLIVE_> thanks for all you help so far.
[20:19] <Edwardd> You are welcome.
[20:19] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: do you have important data on it?
[20:19] <Bashing-om> the_count: I am really at a loss as to how to find the problem in touchpad .
[20:19] <AQLIVE_> I chat to you when I've tried it
[20:19] <AQLIVE_> and yes I do why?
[20:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: TJ- said it was most likely a firmware problem
[20:20] <the_count> Bashing-om: That causet the display issues
[20:20] <EriC^^> AQLIVE_: you might be able to copy the data to your ubuntu from testdisk
[20:20] <the_count> s/causet/caused
[20:20] <EriC^^> right now i mean before running any repairs, in case it's important stuff
[20:21] <EriC^^> chkdsk could potentially screw it up more who knows
[20:21] <Bilel_mk> hey did any one can help me ! how to desinsatll a program installed with wine from terminal??
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> !wine | Bilel_mk
[20:22] <the_count> Bashing-om: As am I... I got to eat lunch now.. I will be back in a short while
[20:22] <sisve_> So... I'm doing a "sudo apt-get install openstack; sudo openstack-install" and it ... goes slowly. Anyone know of a workaround for a presumed hang during the installation? https://www.dropbox.com/s/qsu1tw3wlv07zsx/Screenshot%202015-11-22%2021.20.38.png
[20:22] <ikonia> sisve_: slow it not hung
[20:23] <sisve_> ikonia: Same thing about 2.5 hours ago... https://www.dropbox.com/s/9p5v2yqlti76qxu/Screenshot%202015-11-22%2017.57.29.png
[20:23] <ikonia> sisve_: cancel the install then, and try again
[20:24] <Bilel_mk> j/ #winehq
[20:24] <custom> Hey guys...what program do you all use to put your Linux OS ISO to USB drive?
[20:25] <EriC^^> custom: on linux or windows?
[20:25] <bekks> custom: dd
[20:25] <custom> linux
[20:25] <EriC^^> custom: dd is nice
[20:25] <custom> dd is command line
[20:25] <custom> right?
[20:25] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:25] <custom> i read about it
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> custom: usb disk creator from ubuntu
[20:26] <custom> hmmmmm
[20:26] <hasaan> hi
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> custom: or multisystem
[20:27] <Pertinacious> Chill
[20:27] <Pertinacious> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N81fm-h4Vi4
[20:27] <Guy1524> hey guys I am trying to install wine1.7 on my ubuntu 15.10 installation and I have added the ppa and did sudo apt-get update but when I try to install using sudo apt-get install wine1.7 I get this: http://pastebin.com/k3mzas48 Any ideas?
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Guy1524
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> Guy1524: its reccomended to use package versions for your specific ubuntu version mate
[20:28] <Guy1524> oh
[20:29] <Bashing-om> !wine | Guy1524
[20:29] <Bashing-om> Guy1524: Not what I had in mind . ^^
[20:30] <EriC^^> Guy1524: try sudo apt-get install wine1.7-amd64
[20:30] <EriC^^> see what it says
[20:30] <Bashing-om> !info wine
[20:30] <Guy1524> ok
[20:30] <Guy1524> http://pastebin.com/x9ZnqKSX
[20:31] <Guy1524> is this the right ppa? ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Guy1524 find wine in the repos (software center), you don't need a ppa
[20:32] <Guy1524> ok
[20:32] <the_count> Bashing-om: Say we did completeley remove this kernel and reinstall it from scratch, through that, could we get a "clean install" effect?
[20:33] <Guy1524> I want wine1.7 though
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Guy1524
[20:33] <Guy1524> yes but many applications work better on wine 1.7
[20:33] <MrNose> yes but many applications work better on wine 1.7
[20:34] <nbrecht01> If you really want it, download the .deb file OR compile from source
[20:34] <sisve_> ikonia: Just to add some response, the uninstall is borked and I think I need to reformat my machine now. This isn't really unexpected, I've been failing and reformatting openstack since thursday.
[20:34] <custom> i dont see a USB Disk Creater
[20:34] <custom> link?
[20:34] <EriC^^> Guy1524: try sudo apt-get install libgphoto2-port10
[20:34] <ikonia> sisve_: why is the uninstall broken ?
[20:34] <Guy1524> I already removed the ppa
[20:35] <Guy1524> I am just going to use playonlinux
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> custom: its the hd icon with ubuntu circle on it
[20:35] <custom> ok.. i found that
[20:35] <Guy1524> thanks anyway
[20:35] <custom> Startup Disc Creater
[20:35] <sisve_> ikonia: Technically, the install is broken. Both the Ubuntu "openstack-installer" and the devstack installer (both stable and latest). I've tracked it down to AppArmor denying the code something, and the machine is in an unknown state.
[20:35] <MrNose> ikonia: Technically, the install is broken. Both the Ubuntu "openstack-installer" and the machine is in an unknown state.
[20:35] <custom> and that should do the trick
[20:35] <Bashing-om> the_count: The only "clean install effect " is a clean fresh install . Not to say we can not play around and see what does result with a (re-)install of the kernel. Was there not a newer kernel installed in the update process ? have you tried this new kernel ?
[20:36] <logy> hi ppl, one quick qustion. If i encrypt my disk and home folder will that slow down the speed of my laptop?
[20:36] <custom> Thanks guys
[20:36] <custom> later
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> custom: wich linux distro are you planning to create an usb for?
[20:36] <custom> well Black Lab Linux
[20:36] <custom> the live distro works pretty well
[20:36] <MrNose> the live distro works pretty well
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> custom: not sure that will work with ubuntu disk creator
[20:36] <sisve_> I get some vibes indicating that MrNose may be repeating what people are writing.
[20:36] <MrNose> sisve_: I get some vibes indicating that may be repeating what people are writing.
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> custom: try yumi,unetbootin or multisystem
[20:37] <nbrecht01> logy: It might slow down opening/closing files on the encrypted partition, but it will not slow down the applications.
[20:37] <custom> i did try unetbooting
[20:37] <the_count> Bashing-om: be back with you in 5min
[20:37] <custom> or whaterver it was
[20:37] <custom> it worked..but it was slow
[20:37] <cassielfsw> hi all! I have an upgrade question
[20:37] <custom> maybe thats as good as it gets though
[20:38] <custom> Thanks for the help
[20:38] <cassielfsw> is it still possible to upgrade from an .iso? I have 15.04 and have downloaded 15.10 and mounted the iso but there doesn't appear to be an autorun or anything
[20:38] <logy> nbrecht01: well i just installed ubuntu and i choosed to encrypt my hdd and home folder, it works faster than non ecrypted xD, propably because its a fresh install. Well i will see if it slows down too much i will reinstall it normally. Thx by the way :)
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> cassielfsw: there's a way to install iso's with grub
[20:40] <The_Ball> I have an install of utopic, I can't find any repos for updating before upgrading. archives.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to have utopic any longer
[20:40] <cassielfsw> lotuspsychje: meaning what?
[20:40] <The_Ball> Is there any way I can upgrade?
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> cassielfsw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[20:40] <sisve_> cassielfsw, lotuspsychje; I do not know about live updates or using grub, but you can easily write the iso to a usb stick and boot from it.
[20:40] <nbrecht01> Encrypting the entire HDD will slow down your laptop, because that is where the kernel/programs are stored. Just encrypting the /home will not slow it down, there are no programs there. (Although, there are some config files...)
[20:40] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't believe a newer kernel was installed, what is current?
[20:41] <ioria> cassielfsw, why did you mount the iso ? boot from it . as far as i remember there should be a menu entry like 'update to 15.10' ...
[20:42] <cassielfsw> ioria: because I don't have a blank cd on hand and was trying to be a little lazy.
[20:42] <logy> guys is there a wy to remotely connect and control another ubuntu distro, but NOT using teamviewer
[20:42] <ioria> cassielfsw, i see
[20:42] <sisve_> logy: Normal ssh?
[20:42] <The_Ball> Oh, looks like old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is the place
[20:42] <EriC^^> cassielfsw: you can't upgrade from the iso, it will fresh install
[20:42] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | The_Ball
[20:42] <sisve_> logy: Or are you talking about remote controlling with ui? Perhaps vnc?
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> logy: ssh
[20:42] <ioria> cassielfsw, you can do-release-upgrade
[20:42] <logy> sisive_: yes with ui if possible
[20:43] <cassielfsw> I've tried that several times but the download always fails
[20:43] <cassielfsw> that's why I'm trying to do it with the ISO
[20:43] <nbrecht01> Just run 'do-release-upgrade', don't bother with the ISO image.
[20:43] <ioria> cassielfsw, never done until now... sorry
[20:43] <nbrecht01> Do you know why do-release-upgrade fails?
[20:43] <EriC^^> cassielfsw: the iso won't upgrade it, it'll fresh install removing your current programs and stuff
[20:44] <bekks> !nomodeset | bekks
[20:44] <cassielfsw> it downloads some of the files and then says it timed out
[20:44] <EriC^^> The_Ball: if you don't upgrade you'll have security vulnerabilities and stuff
[20:44] <nbrecht01> cassielfsw: Do you have broadband internet or DSL or somthing else?
[20:44] <cassielfsw> DSL
[20:46] <nbrecht01> cassielfsw: The upgrader may think that it has lost the connection, but it is just slow. I don't know how to fix it. Is there an option to increase the time before it times out?
[20:46] <ioria> cassielfsw, a do-release-upgrade from 04 to 10 took me 27 minutes.... you can try from a console....
[20:46] <cassielfsw> nbrecht01: not that I've seen
[20:47] <cassielfsw> ioria: I have tried it it times out
[20:47] <ioria> cassielfsw, oh...
[20:47] <cassielfsw> are the servers still overwhelmed from release or is the rush over now?
[20:47] <nbrecht01> Hmmm... I do not know what to do other than the ISO or an internet speed upgrade.
[20:48] <k1l_> cassielfsw: "lsb_release -d" gives what output?
[20:48] <nbrecht01> I think thay calmed down.
[20:48] <ioria> cassielfsw, do you have a lot of programs installed ?
[20:48] <cassielfsw> Description: Ubuntu 15.04
[20:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: I don't see why we can't try it
[20:48] <cassielfsw> I don't think so?
[20:48] <k1l_> cassielfsw: can you show a "sudo apt update" in a pastebin?
[20:49] <k1l_> cassielfsw: the servers are fine. its only the question if your local mirror got some issues or your isp got old routes.
[20:50] <ioria> cassielfsw, try to change them to US
[20:50] <nbrecht01> cassielfsw: Is there a way to use a different mirrior? If so, use it. It may fix the problem.
[20:50] <cassielfsw> http://pastebin.com/nkpuFw1A
[20:51] <ioria> cassielfsw, you re US :þ
[20:51] <B4sh> g wp sites?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> the_count: Sure, we can try it .. will break any proprietary drivers that we will have to deal with .. and ther is still the possibility that touchpad interface problem is in that layer . IF this is proprietary will be good to reinstall the driver anyway .
[20:51] <cassielfsw> ioria: yes? where is it not using US servers?
[20:51] <k1l_> cassielfsw: please show a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[20:52] <B4sh> anyone have any experience migrating wordpress sites?
[20:52] <B4sh> i got an error that i can't figure out
[20:52] <nbrecht01> cassielfsw: B4sh: No.
[20:53] <nanodrone> i love ubuntu
[20:53] <nbrecht01> Me too
[20:53] <cassielfsw> http://pastebin.com/WP7uVahx
[20:53] <nanodrone> no other distory has good support for multitouch gestures
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | nanodrone
[20:53] <nanodrone> lotuspsychje, didn't know that
[20:54] <k1l_> cassielfsw: make a "#" in front of that line 57 in that paste (which is in sources.list"
[20:54] <the_count> Bashing-om: There are no proprietary drivers installed
[20:54] <B4sh> #wordpress
[20:54] <k1l_> cassielfsw: its linking to quantal sources, which is dead long time already
[20:55] <Bashing-om> the_count: Ok.. show now what we have for kernels ( can not remove the one we are booting ) ' dpkg -l | grep linux ' .
[20:55] <k1l_> cassielfsw: everything else looks good. so i think there should not be any issue
[20:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: Not sure about drivers and all, but take a look at this, maybe build it into the kernel...? https://github.com/pfps/yoga-laptop
[20:55] <Bashing-om> the_count: reading .
[20:56] <cassielfsw> k1l_: done I'll try it again
[20:56] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13457522/
[20:56] <cassielfsw> thanks for the help
[20:56] <nbrecht01> .part
[20:59] <Bashing-om> the_count: " https://github.com/pfps/yoga-laptop "
[20:59] <Bashing-om> the_count ^^ think these patches have alreasy been done in these later kernels .
[21:00] <momomo> is there a better file browser than nautilus ?
[21:00] <wafflejock1> momomo: better is subjective, I like nemo
[21:00] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, i was not sure
[21:01] <momomo> when I navigate to select a file for intance, i'd like to be able to right click and open the folder ... it's not possible with nautilus
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> momomo you mean 'other', not 'better'
[21:01] <k1l_> momomo: it is with nautlius
[21:01] <the_count> Bashing-om: You see, My screen does not auto rotate, there are a couple of quirks... Not that i really mind, it's just that something is not working as it should.
[21:02] <EriC^^> momomo: it has a right click > open or open in new tab
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> momomo is there anything about ubuntu you *do* like?
[21:02] <wafflejock1> momomo: yah beyond what's in there you can extend the commands too http://askubuntu.com/questions/21953/how-do-i-customize-the-context-menu-in-nautilus
[21:02] <momomo> MonkeyDust, actually not much
[21:02] <momomo> EriC^^, not when you are in navigation mode from a browser for instance
[21:02] <wafflejock1> personally just like having a split view so I use nemo most of the time
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> momomo then why are you using it?
[21:03] <k1l_> momomo: thats a different thing
[21:03] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yhe references are all to older jernels than what you are booting ... I have been researching .. and there have been many patches and bug fixes in these later kernels . You did install the -53 kernel . Have you booted it and see how the touchpad performs ?
[21:04] <momomo> MonkeyDust, big mistake i made two years ago .. and i have spent more than 160 hours on trying to fix stuff and setup keyboard, hotkeys and what not .. and today i am mostly at a stripped down version and basic things like task switcher do not work peroperly
[21:04] <the_count> Bashing-om: I'll try it now
[21:04] <momomo> i decided to update to 15.10 today
[21:04] <momomo> and i did
[21:04] <momomo> k1l_, the problem still exists with minimze without live previews on
[21:05] <momomo> off
[21:05] <the_count> Bashing-om: Talk to you in a bit
[21:05] <momomo> and when live previous is on, then static task switcher keeps showing minimized windows as selectable
[21:06] <momomo> it's actually mostly unity that sucks than ubunut
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> momomo what's keeping you from using something other than ubuntu?
[21:07] <momomo> MonkeyDust, time invested .. and i am alreayd behind scheduely on alot of things .. a switch might cost me about 1 weeks in constant effor tot setup
[21:07] <jonny_> in bash, what does this line mean: if [ $# -lt 3 ]; then
[21:07] <momomo> properly
[21:07] <jonny_> what does this conditional check for?
[21:07] <the_count> Bashing-om: Still no luck with the 53 kernel... I am in it now, not any difference I can see from it and the newest
[21:07] <EriC^^> jonny_: if number of arguments are less than 3
[21:07] <k1l_> momomo: then dont use static switcher
[21:07] <momomo> k1l_, what should i use ? unity switcher /
[21:07] <momomo> ?
[21:08] <momomo> that sucks more .. with its idiotic grouping without an option to disable it
[21:08] <jonny_> thanks EriC^^. for the future, how do I find this information from a manual?
[21:08] <k1l_> the one that works like intended
[21:08] <momomo> k1l_, unity swithcer/
[21:08] <momomo> ?
[21:08] <EriC^^> jonny_: man bash , then /<string> , n to go to next match
[21:08] <k1l_> momomo: i fear you have to program your own desktop then, if everyone is too dumb to make it work like you want it....
[21:08] <momomo> gnome2 was good
[21:09] <k1l_> momomo: then use mate
[21:09] <Guest89616> hi guys, how can I emulate thing arrow keys in the terminal?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> mate is nice
[21:09] <Bashing-om> the_count: -53 is the newest .. So we can surmise that re-install say the -49 kernel will also be of no effect . What I would suggest is to change the graphic's driver . What have we harware wise to work with ' lspci ' ?
[21:09] <momomo> k1l_, maybe .. but don't you agree the switcher is not ideal in unity ?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> momomo the moment you see something, you want the change it completely, no wonder you're behind on schedule
[21:09] <jonny_> thanks EriC^^
[21:09] <wafflejock1> momomo: you can use unity-tweak to change a lot of the defaults
[21:09] <EriC^^> jonny_: no problem
[21:10] <k1l_> momomo: the switcher is totally fine. i use it and it works
[21:10] <momomo> wafflejock1, unity tweak tool .. haha .. that's a good name for sometjing that renders transparantly buggy .. but it works for some stuff like chaging power options
[21:10] <the_count> Bashing-om: THe only -53 I have now is 3.16.0-53-generic, you must have misread, otherwise, it is not showing up in GRUB
[21:10] <wafflejock1> momomo: again personal preference here but I like gnome 3 just fine
[21:10] <k1l_> momomo: i dont want to tab through 35 tabs if i have some programs with several windows open.
[21:10] <momomo> k1l_, do you ever open two or more windows of the same application ?
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> momomo: loose the attitude mate
[21:11] <momomo> you tab . and then suddenly you have to know to use the left key to navigate previous
[21:11] <momomo> previws
[21:11] <the_count> Bashing-om: I thought the 3.19~ series was the latest
[21:11] <k1l_> momomo: i only see you hours of debating on irc what you dont like.
[21:11] <momomo> lotuspsychje, i would
[21:11] <momomo> if i could just get around this issue
[21:11] <k1l_> momomo: so just switch to something you like and you can safe 20hours per week coming here and telling everyone what you dont like.
[21:12] <momomo> all other applicaion switcehr have simialr issue in compiz
[21:12] <momomo> k1l_, it's also feedback :p
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> momomo then don't use compiz
[21:12] <k1l_> momomo: no. its annoying
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> momomo: its not feedback, its your opinion
[21:12] <momomo> i am also describing exisit issues
[21:12] <momomo> existing issues
[21:12] <freakyy> how do i find out how much RAM my graphics card has?
[21:12] <k1l_> momomo: file a bug.
[21:13] <wafflejock1> momomo: write a blog post that explains what you think the problems are and what the possible solutions are or like k1l_ said file a bug, complaining in IRC doesn't help anything
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> momomo i name the bug: 'what i don't like'
[21:13] <mcphail> momomo: alt+` doesn't work for you (not sure I can keep track of what you don't like)
[21:13] <k1l_> momomo: so to be clear: this channel is not for your rantings or debating. make a blogpost for that. we try to solve technical issues in here. so please keep this channel for people who actually need support
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> momomo find a distro or OS you like, then go to their channel for support
[21:14] <momomo> mcphail, maximize a widnwo .. minmize it .. then maximize it again by click on the icon .. use the mouse .. try to click on a small icon .. it should click on the wrong position
[21:14] <Bashing-om> the_count: You are correct .. 3.16 kernel ! I do recall questioning what it would get installed .. my bad . OK .. so we can try and re-install linux-image-3.19.0-33-generic ; But I feel the better to mess around with the graphic's driver .
[21:15] <k1l_> momomo: that works on 15.10. how often should i say that again.
[21:15] <momomo> k1l_, i am on 15.10 now
[21:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: I really don't have anything to loose
[21:15] <k1l_> momomo: you changed compiz settings with a different launcher.
[21:15] <the_count> Bashing-om: Why again the graphics driver?
[21:16] <momomo> k1l_, yes, the problem is with the static switcher with unity live previews off
[21:16] <momomo> try that ...
[21:16] <momomo> if you enable live previous it gets solved
[21:16] <k1l_> momomo: so. either you help to fix that or you need to change the setup or you live with it.
[21:16] <momomo> but then another issue arises
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> !info sysinfo | freakyy
[21:17] <Bashing-om> the_count: If this is Nvidia graphics, I have seen several bug reports in respect to the synaptic touchpad that were referred back to Nvidia for the fix .
[21:17] <k1l_> momomo: and since we could not find something "you like" so far, i think there is nothing we can do. so its just pointless to keep you telling us again and again what you dont like.
[21:17] <momomo> yes, iknow
[21:17] <momomo> all other switchers have similar issues too in compiz
[21:18] <momomo> it's just frustrating becaue thats what i use most ..
[21:18] <k1l_> then dont use a desktop that uses compiz or live with the compiz settings that are standard and known to work. your choice.
[21:18] <momomo> i like the unity switcher which works well.. i just don't like the grouping .. and all fixes for that on the internet, sugests the static application switcher ..
[21:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: It is not Nvidia, Integrated graphics, Ubuntu says, ' Intel® Haswell Mobile ' but it is integrated with my processor, and is, '
[21:19] <momomo> i am going fo cinnammon next
[21:19] <the_count> Bashing-om: Integrated Intel® HD Graphics 4400
[21:20] <momomo> actually right now
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> momomo if ypou don't like cinnamon, we don't want to know it
[21:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: K; Intel supplies their very best to us and it is in the kernel .. no adjustments required .. unless this lappy is of optimus technology ( hybrid graphics ) .. just a thought .
[21:21] <momomo> hey guys, i am sorry for ranting .. and i hope you forgive me .. i think you understand these kind of frustrations and I appreciate that you have tried, many of you .. i am just tired of finding one solution and then finding out something else stopped working .. and it has costed me time ... and i keep revist the problem .. so sorry for that .. and lets hope cinnamon is better
[21:21] <momomo> if not, i'll bother those guys in linux mint :p
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> momomo: mint will get you in trouble
[21:22] <momomo> fcuk wut?
[21:22] <momomo> i just installed it, not yet relogged
[21:22] <momomo> lotuspsychje, anything concrete i will encounter ?
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | momomo try one of these
[21:22] <the_count> Bahsing-om: optimus technology?
[21:24] <lotuspsychje> the_count: optimus graphics cards are hybrid and can switch from intel/nvidia
[21:25] <rgb-one> hello
[21:25] <rgb-one> Anyone here work at a hospital?
[21:25] <lotuspsychje> !ot | rgb-one
[21:26] <k1l_> rgb-one: this channel is for ubuntu support. :/
[21:26] <the_count> Bashing-om: Then it is standalone Intel graphics
[21:26] <OerHeks> rgb-one, how is that related to ubuntu support/
[21:26] <_despo> is this secure
[21:26] <rgb-one> It isn't
[21:26] <rgb-one> :0
[21:26] <_despo> crap
[21:26] <k1l_> _despo: this is the technical ubuntu support channel.
[21:27] <rgb-one> I know I will check offtopic
[21:27] <_despo> right thanks
[21:27] <_despo> so what to do with irc now
[21:31] <Bashing-om> the_count: OK .. so which kernel do you choose to purge/re-install ?
[21:32] <larden> hi guys
[21:32] <yimon> hiii
[21:32] <the_count> I don't see why not the latest.
[21:32] <the_count> bashing-om: ^^^
[21:32] <nottobe> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:33] <nottobe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmaXHWPIovE
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> !ot | nottobe
[21:33] <Bashing-om> the_count: Reboot to a 3.16 kernel and we proceed to do the kernel reinstall then .
[21:33] <the_count> Bashing-om: I am in the 3.16.0-53 kernel now
[21:35] <nottobe> üzdünüz kekeler..
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> !tr
[21:39] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, how do we do this?
[21:40] <lara_> irc://vervet.foonetic.net:6667/#kcl
[21:41] <OerHeks> no no, lara_ don't spam
[21:41] <mas886> pillow
[21:41] <Lamananier> Throw a pillow to mas886
[21:42] <Bashing-om> the_count: ' sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.19.0-33-generic ; sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-33-generic ; sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.19.0-33 ; sudo apt-get purge linux-image-extra-3.19.0-33-generic '. Should do the trick .
[21:42] <OerHeks> mas886, remove that bot
[21:42] <macci> hi guys, How to simulate left arrow key with xdotool? the command "xdotool key left" doesn't work unfortunately
[21:42] <mas886> Okay sorry.
[21:43] <OerHeks> !coc > mas886
[21:45] <reisio> macci: 'Left'?
[21:45] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok
[21:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: Says this program is no longer needed: thermald
[21:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: Shall I remove it?
[21:47] <macci> reisio: reisio, I found the solution: xdotool key "Left"
[21:47] <macci> reisio: thank you for collaborating
[21:47] <reisio> macci: oh, did you find it after I gave it to you? :p
[21:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13459048/
[21:48] <macci> reisio: yes, you did gave me the right direction
[21:48] <reisio> gj
[21:48] <reisio> some things are picky like that
[21:48] <reisio> macci: FFR, if you run 'xev', and press the key you're thinking of, it'll say its exact name/id
[21:49] <the_count> Bashing-om: have to go for a while
[21:49] <VictoriaXOXO> the_count: What is it exactly that you and Bashing-om keep chatting about? You've been doing it for days now. Some really weird bug?
[21:55] <Glamdring> I've got a natively running game that has developed a consistent error. How can I get a log of the problem so I can see what's going awry?
[21:57] <Bashing-om> VictoriaXOXO: the_count And I are working to understand why in a synaptics touch pad - among others - that 2 finger scrolling does not work .
[21:57] <VictoriaXOXO> Bashing-om: Oh, okay. :P
[21:58] <Bashing-om> VictoriaXOXO: If ya got some insights.. welcome to the party .. touchpad works in earlie kernels, broke in the later kernels .
[22:03] <ke4nhw> Folks, I'll continue to play with this distro, and see if it gets any more inviting, but right now I'm gonna consider this more a learning experiment than a true preparation for a production environment. I am just having too much trouble switching mindsets from RH to Ubuntu methologies
[22:03] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: did you check xinput?
[22:06] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yeah .. we are getting lost in translation - somewhere .
[22:06] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ^^ also one AlexQ also has this similar siruation .
[22:07] <EriC^^> did you try xinput list-props <id of synaptics> ?
[22:08] <cschuck> Anybody having problems installing Eclipse themes in Ubuntu?
[22:08] <EriC^^> i have these in xinput Synaptics Two-Finger Pressure (275): 282 , Synaptics Two-Finger Width (276): 7
[22:09] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Thanks, will verify soon as the_count returns and we get the latest kernel re-installed .
[22:14] <VictoriaXOXO> Bashing-om: No help from me, I'm afraid. I was just curious about what the problem was.
[22:17] <ubuntu351> hello
[22:17] <owen1> i played with encfs and i have a folder called visible that i can't remove - rm: cannot remove ‘visible’: Is a directory. ls -l => d????????? ? ? ? ? ? visible
[22:18] <ubuntu351> is there any software for ubuntu that would let me run a game on one computer in my house, and like stream it to another laptop across the house
[22:18] <EriC^^> it's encrypted by another user owen1
[22:18] <ubuntu351> i have a pretty good gaming computer and a weak laptop, I was wondering if there was a way to run the game on gaming computer but play it on the laptop
[22:18] <EriC^^> owen1: fusermount -u /path/to/visible
[22:19] <owen1> EriC^^: fusermount: entry for /home/oren/visible not found in /etc/mtab
[22:19] <owen1> the problem is i rm -r ~/.encrypted
[22:20] <EriC^^> owen1: what does df /path/to/visible show?
[22:20] <owen1> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
[22:20] <owen1> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root 222439052 94081300 117035384 45% /
[22:20] <owen1> YYy
[22:21] <EriC^^> owen1: if you ls -l as the user oren you also can't see it?
[22:24] <owen1> EriC^^: i see it: drwx------ 2 oren oren 4096 Nov 22 12:17 visible
[22:24] <EriC^^> owen1: type rm -r /path/to/visible if you don't have any data you need
[22:25] <owen1> EriC^^: wierd. i was able to rm it. thanks
[22:25] <EriC^^> owen1: no problem
[22:26] <owen1> EriC^^: so if i have 2 folders where i keep my files: enrcypted and decrypted and i want to back it up, do i need to backup both on my backup server?
[22:26] <owen1> i mean i keep my files in 'decrypted' and 'encrypted' is used as well as part of encfs.
[22:28] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: How would I get this terminal command "exiftool -all= *.jpg" as a right-click option? Like, in the context menu? Does anyone know?
[22:29] <reisio> VictoriaXOXO: for Unity/GNOME ?
[22:29] <VictoriaXOXO> reisio: MATE, whatever that is.
[22:30] <EriC^^> owen1: if you want them as encrypted data you need to copy the .encrypted dir, otherwise if you want them as decrypted data you just copy them as usual after decrypting with encfs
[22:30] <reisio> VictoriaXOXO: MATE is MATE, a fork of GNOME 2
[22:30] <VictoriaXOXO> reisio: Oh. :P
[22:30] <daftykins> VictoriaXOXO: Topic for #ubuntu-mate: Home of Ubuntu MATE
[22:30] <daftykins> small channel, but has some nice links in the topic
[22:30] <reisio> VictoriaXOXO: ls /usr/bin/*actions-config-tool*
[22:31] <VictoriaXOXO> daftykins: Gulp. I'll ask in there, but doubt anyone will answer.
[22:31] <VictoriaXOXO> reisio: Hold on.
[22:31] <reisio> VictoriaXOXO: not something I'd want to do on individual files via a GUI, though
[22:32] <VictoriaXOXO> reisio: Can I PM you?
[22:32] <daftykins> !patience | VictoriaXOXO
[22:32] <reisio> find . -iname '*.jp*g*' (check for sanity), and find . -iname '*.jp*g*' -exec exiftool -all= {} \;
[22:32] <owen1> EriC^^: got it. thanks
[22:36] <_Ridgewing> How do I add bug tracking to this project ? Should I just add code, and take it from there ?
[22:36] <_Ridgewing> https://launchpad.net/xbox360
[22:36] <daftykins> that has nothing to do with ubuntu i'm afraid, i think there's a launchpad channel
[22:36] <_Ridgewing> k
[22:39] <ubuntu098> hey guys i have a question. i started learning python. I made simple browser following tutorials. now i need improve it. How to get current loaded web page and show it url entry bar?
[22:40] <EriC^^> #python ubuntu098
[22:41] <ubuntu098> aww thanks
[22:50] <dn5> yo, how do I backup wireless drivers?
[22:51] <daftykins> were they manually compiled?
[22:51] <dn5> daftykins: compiled no, installed yes
[22:51] <daftykins> do you remember what method?
[22:52] <dn5> daftykins: not really, no.. maybe fwcutter
[22:52] <dn5> don't take me for a word
[22:52] <daftykins> can you identify the model? "lspci"
[22:52] <dn5> yes, one second
[22:52] <dn5> daftykins: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[22:56] <daftykins> dn5: cool, one moment
[22:56] <daftykins> !broadcom
[22:57] <daftykins> dn5: anything show up if you run "dpkg -l | grep bcm" ?
[22:59] <dn5> bcmwl-kernel-source 6.30.223.248+bdcom-0ubuntu0.1 Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver source
[22:59] <dn5> and CMIS protocol client @ daftykins
[22:59] <daftykins> dn5: alrighty; and "lshw -C network | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[23:02] <dn5> daftykins: yes, here is the output http://termbin.com/f7s2
[23:03] <daftykins> dn5: sorry this is so long winded; "dpkg -l | grep b43 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[23:04] <dn5> daftykins: np, output http://termbin.com/d83w
[23:09] <daftykins> dn5: ah-ha! looks like you may've followed "b42 - no internet access" on the above linked broadcom page :)
[23:09] <daftykins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[23:09] <daftykins> so you should be ok regardless
[23:10] <daftykins> !info b43-fwcutter
[23:10] <daftykins> yep still in 15.10
[23:10] <dn5> daftykins: Probably, thus I don't have ethernet access
[23:10] <dn5> daftykins: If I make a fresh install there is no way to get this files until I get net access
[23:11] <daftykins> dn5: if you have a quick glance at the section i mean, you'll see it means you can install from the ubuntu disc
[23:11] <daftykins> so you don't need internet access to get the packages on :)
[23:12] <dn5> daftykins: tho I won't install Ubuntu
[23:12] <daftykins> err what's the plan then?
[23:13] <dn5> daftykins: I'm going for Ubuntu children, mate
[23:14] <daftykins> dn5: "MATE edition" ?
[23:14] <daftykins> doesn't matter which variant it is, same driver should go across all
[23:14] <dn5> daftykins: yes.
[23:15] <dn5> daftykins: Doesn't mean MATE have these packages in ISO
[23:15] <daftykins> true, but you can test that from a live session
[23:15] <daftykins> dn5: alternatively, visit packages.ubuntu.com and download the above named package and all its' dependencies for the version you plan to install
[23:15] <daftykins> then just have all the .debs ready to go
[23:16] <dn5> daftykins: So, which deb or package should I additionally backup for post installation
[23:17] <daftykins> dn5: run "apt-cache showpkg b43-fwcutter" which should list all deps
[23:19] <dn5> ah, thanks! daftykins
[23:19] <daftykins> np :)
[23:37] <hadeswatch3r> wpa_suplicant is taking up 90% cpu on new Ubuntu 15.10 .... Maximus VII impact 6600k ...
[23:37] <hadeswatch3r> ?
[23:41] <reisio> hadeswatch3r: what's the problem?
[23:41] <snarkbark> hey all, I've got ubuntu 15.10 running on an xps 13 9343 with an i5 broadwell and I'm experiencing an issue where if I'm playing a game fullscreen and then touch the volume, my screen freezes but I still have control over my mouse
[23:42] <hadeswatch3r> wpa_supplicaint is taking up alot of cpu .... my computer is very sluggish... as in pausing etc...
[23:42] <snarkbark> I can restart lightdm and get booted back to the login and then I can do w/e as normal. Any idea where to look to see what would be causing this issue?
[23:42] <hadeswatch3r> is this the wireless card stuff? (I'm not using wireless )
[23:42] <waressearcher2> if someone don't have ubuntu can he go here and ask generic question related to many linuxes ? or its not ethical and ge will not get help here ?
[23:42] <k1l_> waressearcher2: there is ##linux
[23:42] <Ben64> hadeswatch3r: wpa_supplicant is wirelesss
[23:43] <hadeswatch3r> So why is it killing my machine?
[23:43] <hadeswatch3r> or trying to kill it I should say..
[23:43] <waressearcher2> k1l_: what if that someone want's go here and not ##linux ? will it be frown upon ?
[23:43] <Ben64> hadeswatch3r: hard to tell, try to kill the process? if you're not using wireless you don't need it
[23:43] <k1l_> waressearcher2: ##linux for generic questions. we focus on solving ubuntu issues in here.
[23:44] <hadeswatch3r> yes, I have been killing it ... but, it just restarts itself.
[23:44] <hadeswatch3r> and begins taking cpu cycles again ..
[23:44] <hadeswatch3r> can I remove wpa supplicant ?
[23:44] <hadeswatch3r> or will that break something?
[23:45] <bmsr256> hi, do i have to manually update the kernel to 4.3 or the ubuntu updater will do it automatically?
[23:45] <Ben64> hadeswatch3r: sudo apt-get remove wpasupplicant
[23:46] <Ben64> hadeswatch3r: you'll be unable to connect to wireless though
[23:46] <k1l_> bmsr256: no. ubuntu will not change the kernel version. it will just ship patches for 4.2. why do you need the 4.3 kernel?
[23:46] <VictoriaXOXO> (Unity/GNOME this time!) Q: How would I get this terminal command "exiftool -all= *.jpg" as a right-click option? Like, in the context menu? Does anyone know?
[23:46] <hadeswatch3r> Ben64 that's ok.
[23:46] <hadeswatch3r> I assume that this Motherboard is too new yet...
[23:47] <Ben64> hadeswatch3r: it's probably a wireless card that isn't supported properly
[23:47] <hadeswatch3r> reisio thank you for you help.
[23:47] <hadeswatch3r> Ben64, right, thank you for your help.
[23:47] <hadeswatch3r> I have it removed... I'll reboot this thing now.
[23:47] <Ben64> shouldn't need to reboot
[23:49] <bmsr256> k1l_: i've heard that the 4.3 kernel will have some AMP GPU controller features and some fixes
[23:49] <rui> !add
[23:49] <k1l_> !mainline | bmsr256
[23:49] <bmsr256> i'm just asking, i don't necessarily have to do this
[23:49] <waressearcher2> k1l_: "ubuntu issues" so by that you mean you will not teach someone how to use or do some stuff but if someone have problems with some stuff or something broken this is what you call "ubuntu issues" ?
[23:49] <k1l_> bmsr256: but you dont get updates then and they miss some patches the regular ubuntu kernels got.
[23:50] <waressearcher2> k1l_: so its not like an "ubuntu educational" channel for beginners ?
[23:50] <Ben64> i think 16.04 is going to be kernel 4.3
[23:50] <k1l_> waressearcher2: its very easy: if its ubuntu support ask here. if its generic questions (and you know its generic hence you start a discussion about that) then ask in ##linux
[23:50] <hexafraction> Hello, has anyone either tried or heard of Ubuntu working on Cyberpowerpc fangbook devices?
[23:51] <bmsr256> k1l_ ok i understand, btw i stick with 4.2, that's what it has, i'm with 15.10
[23:51] <yagami> oi
[23:52] <bmsr256> i'll let the updater search and update it automatically
[23:52] <k1l_> Ben64: thought more like 4.5 in the end for 16.04 since its still some time untill the freeze and it was 0.3 more than the last release the last times
[23:52] <Guy1524> hey guys, so i have an optimus laptop and I have nvidia-prime, I found out that it is impossible to use multiple monitors without using the noveau drivers which apparently are terrible, but I really want to use a bigger screen, is there a way to use just one external display and make the drivers not recognize the laptop display or something along those lines?
[23:53] <Ben64> k1l_: it started as 4.2, and i saw somewhere that it was going to be rebased on 4.3, i guess it can still change though
[23:54] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: What would be the most "clean" way of completely removing the entire LibreOffice suite from Ubuntu?
[23:54] <daftykins> Guy1524: tried toggling the outputs from the laptops Fn+F# key?
[23:54] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: sudo apt-get purge libreoffice
[23:55] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: And that removes the entire suite and everything?
[23:55] <waressearcher2> is there alternative to LibreOffice ?
[23:55] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: yes
[23:55] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Peeeeeeerfect.
[23:55] <waressearcher2> openoffice or koffice anything else ?
[23:56] <reisio> waressearcher2: abiword, gnumeric
[23:56] <AlexQ> Is Upstart in wily still experimental and disabled by default (in the default boot record created by GRUB)?
[23:56] <daftykins> waressearcher2: not one that is worth bothering with, probably.
[23:56] <JimmyNeutron> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04.3 onto my computer, Intel D525MW Atom processor, and it's hanging on the screen "Select a language" Any help would be appreciated.
[23:57] <k1l_> AlexQ: since 15.04 systemd is the default init
[23:57] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Uhh. What? I was just inside Writer and Calc! http://pastebin.com/1rYs2jbv
[23:57] <daftykins> meta package is meta
[23:57] <AlexQ> k1l_: So upstart is the older one? Woo, I got confused. So if I want to start/stop something, I should use service <name> start/stop/restart ?
[23:58] <daftykins> JimmyNeutron: MD5 your downloaded ISO and check it on the flash drive / media you put it on?
[23:58] <rdconsolo> waressearcher2: koffice now is Calligra. openoffice, very good, but libreoffice gets updates more frequently
[23:58] <JimmyNeutron> daftykins, ok..let me check it..thanks!
[23:58] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: sudo apt-get autoremove?
[23:59] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Okay, hold on.
[23:59] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: if that doesnt remove all, then use "sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*"
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[20:46] <richardconnected> What I have proposed here in the U.S. is that during the race for the 2020' presidential election is that on the Independent Ticket the candidate(s) for the Independent Ticket should be "all the citizens 18 & over" ! As governmental body, "we" the citizens of the U.S. can do a better job than the politicians we have "ever" elected ! Let's push this
[20:46] <richardconnected> idea to the whole world !
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:53] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 这么土的名字 : 看到"厦门13岁的初中女生小花去医院打胎" 这个消息后我十分震惊, 00年出生的人居然还叫小花这么土的名字。
[01:08] <^k^> 新 Kubuntu • kde图标花屏 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473972 kde图标花屏 zz: tor — 2015-11-22 9:06
[01:13] <^k^> 新 桌面特效 • gnome桌面图标和kde桌面的图标花屏 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473973 gnome-shell窗口边框和kde桌面的图标花屏 111.jpg 222.jpg zz: tor — 2015-11-22 9:12
[01:35] <^k^> 新 办公、图像、机械电子设计等 • 如何在指定的位置产生标尺？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473974 初始状态的图。 b1.jpg 添加标尺以后，密密麻麻，完全看不见了。 zz: pengsir — 2015-11-22 9:35
[02:21] <kk> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 双网卡环境下，哪一个ip处于使用状态？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473975 ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e0:3f:49:57:4b:d1 inet addr:192.168.1.3 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::e23f:49ff:fe57:4bd1/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[02:21] <kk> ─> RX packets:6068 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:113 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisi …
[02:21] <ubrl> ⇪ f: 取标题 invalid byte sequence in UTF-8
[04:07] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[04:18] * ubrl 2.6.32-042stab102.9 #1 SMP Fri Dec 19 20:34:40 MSK 2014 Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS ruby 1.9.3p484 (2013-11-22 revision 43786) [i686-linux]
[04:23] <^k^> 新 UbuntuKylin • kylin中系统命令显示中文输出怎么办？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473977 如下图所示，执行系统命令时输出为中文，而不向其他的linux系统一样显示英文，这样导致没法开发软件，请问各位高手有没有什么办法关掉中文显示？ 装系统时想装普通版ubuntu结果装错
[04:23] <^k^> ─> 了，刚配置好重装太麻烦，如果有知道如何屏蔽中文显示的麻烦指点下吧，谢了！ liyanq …
[04:25] <Freebuilder> 吼吼
[04:28] <wzhd> 你吼啊
[04:28] <Freebuilder> 翻出若干年前购买的螺杆螺母，竟然没有垫片，当年怎么这么傻逼
[04:43] <Dennyjojo> Mac可以安裝ubuntu嗎
[04:43] <Freebuilder> 那么高逼格的硬件，没玩过
[04:46] <Dennyjojo> －－
[05:02] <Freebuilder> 我的 Win10 终于下了 1G 了，百度云离线下载一个字节还没有。
[05:10] <mjkr> is the link between {beijing,tianjin,shanghai,guangzhou,shenzhen} and california running normal for regular home-classified users in china?
[05:10] <mjkr> by normal I mean a packet drop rate of less then 1/3
[05:11] <mjkr> what's puzzling me is that the link towards europe seems much more reliable than the link to america
[05:19] <Ueno_Otoko> Freebuilder, 百度云可以秒下的
[05:20] <Freebuilder> ed2k://|file|cn_windows_10_enterprise_version_1511_x64_dvd_7224788.iso|4048609280|A9B684D56B2DC9D43E19ACAA857D35DC|/
[05:22] <Ueno_Otoko> Freebuilder, 下多版本的可以么 cn_windows_10_multiple_editions_x64_dvd_68...
[05:23] <Freebuilder> 那个只含家庭版专业版
[06:37] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 吃奶 : 儿媳正给孙子喂奶。爷爷见小孙孙不好好吃,便逗小孙孙说:"你不吃,爷爷我可就吃啦！ "儿子此时正好进门,看见这情景后说:"爸你这么大年纪,怎么能吃儿媳的奶?"爹生气地指着儿子说:"你从前吃了我老婆那么多年奶,我就不能吃你老婆一口奶?"
[06:41] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • CP -V无效选项 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473979 cp：无效选项 -- V Try 'cp --help' for more information. zz: 7猫. — 2015-11-22 14:39
[07:52] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[08:01] <rabbitear> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHtXnRDKEEg
[08:01] <ubrl> rabbitear: ⇪ Eamon-Fuck it with lyrics HD - YouTube
[08:25] <sennn> hi
[08:25] <ubrl> sennn:点点点. 16:27
[08:33] <sennn> 有人嗎?
[08:50] <^k^> 暂无新帖 讲个笑话吧: 妻子的前夫 : "杰克,听说你离婚了?" "是的,没想到这么顺利,我把离婚申请书交给法官后,他只是粗略地看了看,便签字同意了。" "怎么这么快呢?" "后来才搞清楚了原因,原来他是我妻子的前夫。"
[08:56] <thesicus> sennn, 有，
[09:33] <thesicus> 请问如何得到一个cloak？
[09:35] <thesicus> excuse me, any staff online here?
[09:43] <^k^> 新 软件/网站开发 • win下的c程序到linux下，怎么使用windows_makefile文件实现编译运行 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473981 我是刚刚接触linux的新手，目前系统是ubuntu14.04。现在兄长给了一个C 程序（VS2013下的），现在要能让它在ubuntu下运行。。我实在是不会，挣扎了一两个星期，
[09:43] <^k^> ─> ，求各位大神帮帮忙吧。 这是程序中的mikefile文件： PROGRAM = MainPEG.exe OBJECTS = MainPEG.o Ra …
[10:11] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • pipelight 对于 firefox 的设置有什么需要注意的吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473983 我 按照 http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/pipelig ... e-for.html 在15.10下安装了pipelight，可是firefox的plugin里看不到相应的插件。 由于我的firefox里装了一些其他的插件，我就重新指定
[10:12] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • pipelight 对于 firefox 的设置有什么需要注意的吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473984 我 按照 http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/pipelig ... e-for.html 在15.10下安装了pipelight，可是firefox的plugin里看不到相应的插件。 由于我的firefox里装了一些其他的插件，我就重新指定
[10:14] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • pipelight 对于 firefox 的设置有什么需要注意的吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473986 我 按照 http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/pipelig ... e-for.html 在15.10下安装了pipelight，可是firefox的plugin里看不到相应的插件。 由于我的firefox里装了一些其他的插件，我就重新指定
[10:14] <^k^> ─> 一个全新的profile去启动firefox，这回可以在plugins里看到相应的插件，也可以看网站的flash …
[10:15] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • pipelight 对于 firefox 的设置有什么需要注意的吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473987 我 按照 http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/pipelig ... e-for.html 在15.10下安装了pipelight，可是firefox的plugin里看不到相应的插件。 由于我的firefox里装了一些其他的插件，我就重新指定
[10:15] <^k^> ─> 一个全新的profile去启动firefox，这回可以在plugins里看到相应的插件，也可以看网站的flash …
[10:17] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • pipelight 对于 firefox 的设置有什么需要注意的吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473988 我 按照 http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/pipelig ... e-for.html 在15.10下安装了pipelight，可是firefox的plugin里看不到相应的插件。 由于我的firefox里装了一些其他的插件，我就重新指定
[10:17] <^k^> ─> 一个全新的profile去启动firefox，这回可以在plugins里看到相应的插件，也可以看网站的flash …
[10:53] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 关于n1525网卡的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473990 双网卡，有线网卡可以用。求解决方法？ zz: Coraggio — 2015-11-22 18:47
[11:00] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • 用audacity来录电脑里的声音 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473991 用浏览器看在线电影，有一首电影里的背景音乐不错，想把它录下来，找来找去找到了audacity这个软件。 运行audacity后，点击录音，居然什么声音也没录下来，看来得配置一番 中文资料太少，看官
[11:00] <^k^> ─> 方帮助文档也是办法之一。 以下是摘录：网址是http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/tutorial_recor …
[11:06] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • tracepath的结果有点困惑 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473992 tracepath forum.ubuntu.org.cn 1?: [LOCALHOST] pmtu 1500 1: 192.168.1.1 3.164ms 1: 192.168.1.1 12.867ms 2: 192.168.1.1 3.069ms pmtu 1492 2: 113.58.144.1 42.953ms 3: 221.11.165.9 44.810ms 4: 221.11.165.245 61.522ms asymm 7 5: 219.158.24.217 54.4
[11:06] <^k^> ─> 89ms asymm 6 6: 219.158.23.22 122.072ms 7: 219.158.97.30 169.597ms 8: 219.158.30.254 404.408ms 9: 199.102.95.5 317.13 …
[11:49] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • 本机之间数据通信 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473993 本人菜鸟，初学学习Ubuntu遇到些问题，往路过的留意下帮我解决问题，谢谢！！！ 学习网络编程与数据通信，在虚拟机中安装的Ubuntu，尝试在本机之间通信，接收和发送的函数都是教程里的，不知
[11:50] <happyaron> 发现snappy好像有点科学唉
[12:07] <rabbitear> 7
[12:10] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • 为何无法彻底关闭eth0? http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473994 root@hwy:/home/debian8# ifconfig eth0 down root@hwy:/home/debian8# route -nv Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wl
[12:10] <^k^> ─> an0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 root@hwy:/home/debian8# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e …
[12:18] <rabbitear> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNC4FHR4XLA
[12:18] <ubrl> rabbitear: ⇪ Don Henley - Dirty Laundry (With Lyrics) - YouTube
[12:27] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[12:29] <^k^> 新 C/C++/Java • linux中怎么在一个进程运行时查看进程的输入输出缓冲区中的内容 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473995 RT zz: guoyajie — 2015-11-22 20:11
[12:30] <onlylove> happyaron: 好像有点科学和稳定工作是两码事，就像当时的ubuntu一样不是，ubuntu始终不如debian
[12:30] <onlylove> test
[12:30] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 20:33
[12:30] <onlylove> 旁边的微波炉恨死我两万
[12:31] <onlylove> 因为那破微波炉，搞得无线网卡一直不正常
[12:52] <Ueno_Otoko> 额定微波频率：2450MHz
[12:52] <Ueno_Otoko> 呵呵呵
[12:59] <happyaron> onlylove: :)
[16:07] <longlongago> hi there
[23:54] <^k^> 新 网卡问题以及网络和拨号 • ubuntu15.10插网线没反应！ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473997 wifi正常，有线网络完全不行。 在设置里面，即便插了网线，也显示线缆被拔出。 估计也是驱动的问题，我的网卡是RTL8111/8168/8411。 如果在命令行里面输一句sudo rmmod r8169（好像说是取
[23:54] <^k^> ─> 消使用8169网卡的语句），设置里面连有线网络的选项都没了。重启恢复。估计默认是8169 …
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-app-devel
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[11:05] <popey> mcphail, jdstrand_ is the person to ask
[11:05] <popey> mcphail, need a tester? :D
[11:06] <popey> mcphail, also, do you look in a specific directory on the card?
[12:06] <mcphail> popey: It would be great if you can test. Do you have a copy of BG?
[13:26] <jkb_> appdevs, i have a question to uitk-1.3 and backward compatibility. Can anybody help on this?
[13:26] <jkb_> appdevs, since when have 1.3 been supported (OTA-7 or 8)? For a specific app I want to change to 1.3 but what will happen to users not on the latest OTAs?
[14:26] <popey> mcphail, the original saga, I think so
[14:36] <popey> mcphail, you set read_path over all of /media/ - can't see that getting approved ever
[14:36] <popey> but not my job :)
[15:16] <mcphail> happy to try anything to reduce the scope...
[15:17] <ahayzen> Hi, anyone ever got this error from dekko causing it not to start? "MANAGER NULL? false ACCOUNT LIST: (24, 23, 21, 20)"
[15:20] <JanC> mcphail: maybe #apparmor on the OFTC network can help you? (I think your problem is with AppArmor rules, right?)
[15:23] <mcphail> JanC: thanks. Might try that (although I'm not sure I understand apparmor enough to explain my problem). Would be nice to have some guidance as to what is needed to pass manual review
[15:57] <popey> I don't think it's really an apparmor problem, but a policy one
[18:21] <mcphail> jdstrand_: when you get back to the office, can you let me know how I go about getting an app manually reviewed? Does it happen automatically (or not at all)?
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-devel
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[05:58] <cimbakahn> I can't find anyone at any of the lubuntu rooms. Can i get help here?
[14:41] <hjd> Someone around who can retrigger failed builds for Xenial? It looks like felix-main, guice, httpcomponents-core and jackrabbit were synced at the same time as newer versions of some of their dependencies. I tried with httpcomponents-core and that built successfully locally at least. Could be argued that they might need stricter version requirements for these dependencies, but I don't know whether that's an issue or not...
[15:15] <ginggs> hjd: rebuilding soon
[15:21] <hjd> ginggs: ty :)
[15:22] <hjd> I also found the curious case of bug 1518701, but I don't know how issues like that are resolved in practice...
[15:51] <ginggs> hjd: have you filed a bug in debian for that circular dependency?
[16:35] <hjd> ginggs: No, I haven't.
[16:38] <hjd> I was mainly looking into what the root cause could be, but I wasn't sure how to proceed.
[16:39] <hjd> Any suggestions/tips on whether I should include more that what's in the original report, if I end up forwarding it to Debian? (For instance, I haven't found a good way to mark multiple packages as affected there like on Launchpad, but I might be missing something obvious) :)
[16:57] <JanC> seems like Debian knows about that issue: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/p/php-codecoverage/php-codecoverage_3.0.2+dfsg-1_changelog
[17:23] <mapreri> that's really not a debian problem. some kind of bootstrap is needed, like uploading a binary as done in debian, but this really requires super-super powers in ubuntu
[17:24] <mapreri> well, unless it's actually possibile to drop the dep, which i fear is not, but worth a try maybe
[17:25] <JanC> maybe just changing the dependency versions can fix it?
[17:25] <JanC> if one can work with an older version of the other
[19:32] <cjwatson> hjd,ginggs,mapreri,JanC: I'll bootstrap it.
[19:34] <mapreri> cjwatson: cool. OOI are you going to upload the binary of php-codecoverage ?
[19:35] <cjwatson> mapreri: Only to a bootstrap archive used only for build-deps.
[19:35] <cjwatson> mapreri: Even I can't upload binaries directly :-)
[19:35] <cjwatson> mapreri: But I do have superpowers to inject build-deps.
[19:35] <mapreri> wow
[19:36] <mapreri> cjwatson: but are there people who can push binaries directly to the ubuntu archive nowadays?
[19:36] <cjwatson> mapreri: No.
[19:36] <mapreri> oh, that's cool, actually
[19:36] <cjwatson> Quite deliberate :-)
[19:36] <mapreri> eheh
[19:36] <cjwatson> Hasn't been possible for a long time.
[19:37] <cjwatson> (If it ever was, which I slightly doubt.)
[19:37] <cjwatson> I guess maybe pre-Launchpad.
[19:38] <mapreri> maybe, but those details are hard to grasp from the outside...
[19:38] <cjwatson> infinity: Oh hai. The xenial chroots don't include the bootstrap archive right now.
[19:38] <cjwatson> OK, so I can't do this easily right now, can do it once infinity deals with the above.
[19:38] <cjwatson> (Could in principle, but I don't really want to upload new chroots ...)
[19:45] <infinity> cjwatson: It was possible even post-LP, I used to inject binaries into the upload queues to bootstrap waaaay back when.
[19:46] <infinity> cjwatson: But I haven't done that in years, and I *think* the shell access required to do so is something none of us have anymore anyway.
[19:46] <infinity> cjwatson: Anyhow, I can refresh and fix the chroots. They're still copies of wily-release chroots right now.
[19:53] * infinity glares at his Unity launcher, which seems to have decided that auto-hiding isn't hip and cool anymore, despite its settings.
[19:56] <cjwatson> infinity: Ah, yes, now you mention it I think that was one of my motivations for rewriting the archive admin scripts. :P
[19:57] <infinity> cjwatson: Yeah. We went from bootstrapping via binary-into-archive injection (eeeevil) to chroot injection (less evil, but still gross) to the bootstrap archive (mostly not gross, ish).
[19:57] <infinity> cjwatson: But I distincly remember perpetrating the evil method in the early LP days, since it was just a carryover of the status quo from jackass.
[19:58] <Unit193> cjwatson: Do you have a nice page somewhere on using reposurgeon to convert bzr repos to git?
[20:01] <infinity> cjwatson: After I'm done my lazy afternoon TV watching, I'll refresh the xenial chroots and turn the bootstrap back on.
[20:04] * infinity is finding it oddly satisfying to watch the s390x stage1 bootstrap autobuild.
[20:04] <infinity> Well, "auto"build. Shell loop of doom, but whatever. :P
[20:10] <hjd> cjwatson: Thank you :)
[20:10] <hjd> infinity: s390x for Ubuntu?
[20:20] <infinity> hjd: http://mainframeinsights.com/ubuntu-distribution-announced-for-linuxone-and-ibm-z-systems/
[20:25] <mapreri> now, why does http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/Release lists armhf, arm64, ppc64el, powerpc which are not in archive.u.c but on ports.u.c, and conversely ports.u.c's Release lists amd64 and i386, which are only on archive.u.c
[20:25] <mapreri> -.-'
[20:25] <mapreri> that's ain't funny, guys
[20:27] <infinity> mapreri: Because the archive split is done on a machine other than the one that signs Releases, so it can't perform surgery and re-sign.
[20:28] <infinity> mapreri: A bug, perhaps, but hardly one that causes any real issues, since it's been like that for a decade.
[20:29] <mapreri> infinity: usually how can a person figure whether an architecture is in ports or the main archive without trying and hitting 404?
[20:29] <infinity> mapreri: archive = amd64/i386, ports = everything else?
[20:30] <JanC> well, that could change of course
[20:30] <mapreri> infinity: will it ever be that way, written in a rock? (ok, not that i expect something so stable, but listing archs is evil)
[20:31] <mapreri> well, it has been for the past decade...
[20:31] <infinity> It *could* change, but it's based on traffic/demand, as long as x86 so firmly eclipses all the other ports, it's not likely we'll change the list.
[20:32] <mapreri> isn't ports mirrored?
[20:32] <infinity> If it did change, I don't think it would be a hard cutover, we'd do something like publish ppc64el to both archive and ports, so the world isn't disrupted.
[20:32] <infinity> ports has ccTLD DNS in place, but it's only mirrored in the UK and US right now. Would be nice to expand that, but we don't have people beating down our door to do so.
[20:33] <mapreri> eheh
[20:37] <hjd> infinity: aaah, I see
[20:37] <JanC> you could also parse e.g. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/ & http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/xenial/ (or ftp:same) for Contents-*.gz :)
[20:39] <Unit193> infinity: What're you doing active on the weekends for?! :P
[20:39] <infinity> Unit193: Being a derpaholic.
[20:40] <Unit193> Haha, alright. :D
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[02:38] <daftykins> be nice to have some backup to stop getting lynched by the newbies over in #ubuntu
[02:39] <valorie> lynched by newbies!
[02:39] <valorie> sounds a bit extreme
[02:39] <daftykins> indeed!
[02:40] <daftykins> surrounded, i am :)
[02:40] * valorie has no ops over there
[02:40] <valorie> sorry
[02:41] <daftykins> no problemo - is your stomping ground elsewhere?
[02:42] <valorie> yep, the kubuntu chans
[02:42] <valorie> and KDE chans
[02:42] <daftykins> ah har
[02:43] <daftykins> ah well, my fault for lingering of a weekend :) cya \o
[02:43] <valorie> ciao
[10:19] <Myrtti> good grief
[10:19] <Myrtti> keyboard Tourettes...
[10:19] <Myrtti> ugh.
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-us-oh
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[03:17] <PCLine__> Hello and Welcome to Winter in Ohio everyone.
[03:22] <Unit193> But I don't see snow...
[03:25] <PCLine__> It was snowing here.
[03:27] <PCLine__> First seen it at 5:30 this afternoon - Just came home and seen snow in the Head lights.
[03:40] <Unit193> Wow, nice.
[22:15] <jrgifford> Snowing here.
[22:15] <Unit193> Woooohoooo, jrgifford!
[22:15] <Unit193> jrgifford: Oh and we expired.
[22:16] <jrgifford> yeah... snow.
[22:16] <jrgifford> Unit193: yup.
[22:16] <jrgifford> :\
[22:16] <jrgifford> we didn't have a group photo.
[22:16] <Unit193> Photoshop everyone into one. :----D
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"Unit193",
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2015-11-22-#launchpad
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[22:37] <_Ridgewing> How do I add bug tracking to this project ? Should I just add code, and take it from there ?
[22:37] <_Ridgewing> https://launchpad.net/xbox360
[22:38] <Mc-> https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/YourProject#Getting_started ?
[22:38] <_Ridgewing> opening...
[22:41] <_Ridgewing> dont get it . this page doesnot work. https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/Register
[22:47] <Mc-> i don't know where you got that url. My understanding of the apge i linked is that if you are the project's owner, you should have a "change details" link on the project overview page that allows you to tells lp that you want to use lp's bugtracker
[22:48] <wgrant> _Ridgewing: Click Bugs at the top of the page.
[23:14] <dobey> _Ridgewing: i think the problem is you created a project but you wanted to create a team
[23:15] <dobey> at least, reading the description on the project page, that is what it sounds like
[23:15] <dobey> and i presume you probably are wondering how to subscribe that team to bugs in ubuntu?
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2015-11-22-#kubuntu
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[00:29] <ejay> whats the shortcut to enable menu in okular?
[00:51] <bprompt> ejay: ctrl-m usually, on most apps
[01:59] <patte> hello, this is patte from italy [kubuntu 15.10], can i have little tip from you?
[01:59] <patte> if is possible, of course
[02:03] <patte> hei, is anyone here?
[02:03] <patte> i need only a little help, not for "broke"....
[02:04] <patte> hi Fine
[02:04] <Finetundar> hi patte
[02:04] <patte> sorry i need a little help
[02:04] <patte> can you?
[02:04] <patte> it's for modding my desktop kde5
[02:04] <Finetundar> patte: I can try
[02:05] <patte> i need to change size of icons, and spacing
[02:05] <patte> i use kubuntu 15.10
[02:05] <patte> on the desktop
[02:06] <Finetundar> hmm, one sec
[02:06] <patte> maybe is possible change from txt file?
[02:07] <Finetundar> ok, can you go to your system settings?
[02:14] <denza242> patte: spacing of the icons?
[02:14] <patte> yes
[02:15] <patte> maybe size etc etc...
[02:17] <patte> maybe a config file... or a program like gnome dconf
[02:17] <patte> just for modding my desktop like a n00b :-) (i'm n00b heheheh)
[02:18] <Finetundar> patte: there are options for it in the system settings menu
[02:19] <patte> for spacing of desktop icons? sure?
[02:19] <patte> i can't find looool
[02:20] <Finetundar> patte: well, I may be wrong, problem is all I have to go on right now is KDE 4. BUT if nothing more than the visual style changed then it should be the same
[02:21] <patte> aaaa ok, thanks :-) i have the 5... and when i go on settings i can change all but not on the desktop...
[02:21] <Finetundar> patte: for 4 it's System Settings--->Application Apperence---->icons
[02:21] <Finetundar> --->advanced
[02:22] <patte> yep i'm in, but, for desktop icons i have no possibilityes of change
[02:22] <Finetundar> patte: you can't even change the size?
[02:23] <patte> for all, i can set, dimension and animations, but for the desktop i can't... :__(
[02:23] <Finetundar> There's no desktop section?
[02:24] <patte> desktop section is there, but i can't clik with the mouse on dimension etc...
[02:24] <patte> like without permission
[02:24] <Finetundar> ?
[02:24] <patte> i try with admin permission, but... not way...
[02:24] <patte> soo i'm here for find another street :-)
[02:25] <patte> maybe config file... or other...
[02:25] <patte> way not street
[02:25] <patte> street is like italian ehhehe
[02:25] <Finetundar> no option to use admin, or no was as in you WON't use admin?
[02:26] <patte> yes, i have option modificable for all pc, but not for the desktop inteface heheh
[02:26] <Finetundar> give me a few, I'm gonna make a VM real quick
[02:27] <Finetundar> Just need to DL the ISO
[02:28] <patte> ok thanks for help
[02:28] <Finetundar> No problem
[02:37] <Finetundar> or ya know, vbox will decide not to work
[02:45] <patte> hahahha no problem, good night
[02:45] <patte> i go to bed
[02:45] <patte> see you and thanks for trying :-)
[02:45] <Finetundar> patte: night
[06:55] <kernelcruncher> is there an alternative to wodim in k3b, in another distro I use cdrecord which gives better behaviour
[09:39] <allon> Hi
[09:39] <allon> I have a problem with krunner and can not find the solution in internet
[09:39] <allon> I installed qtcreator
[09:40] <allon> I can start it clicking on K + typing qtcreator in the research bar
[09:40] <allon> but it does not appear when I type qtcreator in krunner (alt - f)
[09:40] <allon> f2
[09:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:57] <allon> good morning
[09:58] <lordievader> Hey allon, how are you doing?
[09:58] <allon> lordievader: find and you?
[09:59] <lordievader> Doing good. Coffee is on its way :)
[10:00] <allon> here it is nearly luch time :)
[10:00] <allon> lunch
[10:06] <excalibr> bonjour allon
[10:21] <allon> Hi
[10:21] <allon> BOnjour
[10:22] <Smurphy> Tcho. Ils vont tres rapidement raler ici, si on parle francais ... Tu parles aussi anglais, utilise ca alors :)
[10:24] <allon> I wonder how excalibr foud out I am french
[10:25] <allon> when I speak it no doubt accent is there but I did not know you can see it when I write it :)
[10:26] <excalibr> Not sure if this is good idea. I have kubuntu-ci ppa enabled and had some updates installed from it. Now I disabled the ppa and added kubuntu-backports ppa. And now Im about to install some updates from it. Should I expect a major disastar from doing this?
[10:26] <lordievader> allon: 'abo.wanadoo.fr' says enough?
[10:27] <allon> hehe :)
[10:27] <allon> it does indeed
[10:28] <allon> any idea about how to update krunner?
[10:28] <allon> I can start my programms from the K command but not from Krunner
[10:30] <excalibr> try kill it then give it a restart
[10:32] <excalibr> I always thought it uses the same cache of apps list that apps launcher uses
[10:32] <allon> I thougth too
[10:35] <Smurphy> It is the: BOnjour - that gave you away.
[10:36] <foormea> allon: does it just not show in the suggestions, or does it do nothing when you press enter?
[10:36] <allon> the bonjour came after :)
[10:36] <allon> it does not show in suggestion
[10:36] <allon> I try to enter
[10:36] <Smurphy> allon: You could eventually also delete the cache content. Cause that fixed quite some issues on my Upgrade (from 15.04 to 15.10)
[10:37] <allon> I killed krunner and rerunned it no success
[10:38] <allon> when I press enter after qtcreator it does open installation.txt
[10:38] <allon> can you tell me where is this cache?
[10:39] <Smurphy> allon: Don't remember. I remember that I had removed it.
[10:39] <Smurphy> Hold on - checking.
[10:39] <Smurphy> cd ~/.cache
[10:39] <Smurphy> there is even a krunner entry :)
[10:40] <Smurphy> I had deleted the plasmashell stuff.
[10:42] <allon> you mean that in ./chache directory there is a krunner directory?
[10:44] <Smurphy> in mine - there is, yes.
[10:45] <Smurphy> If you did upgrade your system, I would eventually also wipe the .cache directory content entirely.
[10:45] <allon> I did a fresh install from the lts
[10:45] <Smurphy> fresh install from lts ?
[10:45] <allon> from the 14.04
[10:45] <Smurphy> fresh install means formatted etc.
[10:45] <allon> yes
[10:45] <Smurphy> So - this is an upgrade.
[10:46] <allon> upgrade is not when you are in a 10.04 for exemple and click on upgrade my system?
[10:46] <Smurphy> How does that work. You would have required to start a live OS/CD, then format it.
[10:46] <Smurphy> you clicked on: Upgrade from 14.04 ?
[10:46] <allon> no :)
[10:46] <allon> I am not clear
[10:46] <Smurphy> You are still in 14.04 ? or 15.10 ?
[10:47] <allon> 14.04
[10:47] <allon> because it last 3 years
[10:47] <Smurphy> Ok. So - that is different then.
[10:47] <Smurphy> I don't have a 14.04 LTS system anymore.
[10:48] <Smurphy> Make a "lsb_release -d" please
[10:48] <allon> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[10:51] <Smurphy> ok. the it is Ok. I suspect krunner is still on KDE4, hence I can't check here. You will have to wait until someone has it installed to compare.
[10:52] <allon> works !!!!
[10:52] <Smurphy> What - removing the cache ?
[10:52] <allon> I went into /var/tmp/kdecache-<myusername>
[10:52] <Smurphy> and you removed the krunner stuff ?
[10:52] <allon> deleted my cache
[10:53] <allon> and yes it does work
[10:53] <allon> yes
[10:53] <Smurphy> Cool. Ok - going back top my basement, got a drone top finish :)
[10:53] <allon> thanks a lot for your help
[10:53] <allon> going back to my toomorow timetable :(
[10:53] <Smurphy> np :}
[14:43] <ashledombos> Hi, I guess «it's the last kubuntu ever» is FUD, isn't it? :)
[14:46] <hazamonzo> ashledombos: FUD?
[14:51] <ashledombos> hazamonzo: well the articles that were written afetr announce from Jonathan Riddell
[14:53] <hazamonzo> Ahh thats a shame
[14:55] <yofel> uhm, could people please stop paying attention to those? Jonathan is gone, yes. Kubuntu might not be quite the same as it was in the future, yes. But there's no intention of discontinuing it completely.
[14:57] <ashledombos> good, i'm asking as I switched very recently to kubuntu after hesitating with other kde centrist distros
[14:57] <ashledombos> so I'm not very aware of all the past of kubuntu
[15:00] <hazamonzo> ashledombos: I've been using Kubuntu for many years. I love it :)
[15:00] <hazamonzo> And 15.10 is looking great at the moment
[15:03] <soee> so 16.04 will be even better
[15:03] <soee> with Plasma 5.5 etc. :)
[15:03] <hazamonzo> Its all looking very pretty these days
[15:04] <ashledombos> indeed
[15:05] <ashledombos> my choice went to kubuntu as it seems to be the closest to kde vanilla and teh most beautiful too :)
[15:05] <hazamonzo> ashledombos: I just wanted a classic taskbar. I wasn't a huge fan of the Ubuntu UI
[15:05] <ashledombos> i guess i need to say Plasma now, old habits
[15:05] <hazamonzo> And the useful desktop widgets like pastebin
[15:07] <ashledombos> yes, though you can install some widget in unity doing the same stuff
[15:07] <ashledombos> but it's not straightforward
[15:08] <hazamonzo> ashledombos: I installed a ubuntu VM a while back and the vm wasn't too powerful. By default ubuntu (unity) had all these desktop fading effects that really slowed it all down... I found that i couldn't switch off the effects without a unity tool that i had to install, that in the end didn't actually work. It was slightly annoying
[15:09] <hazamonzo> Also KSnapshot is much better than the ubunut screen capture tool
[15:09] <hazamonzo> These are just small things but they are the reason i stick with Kubuntu
[15:11] <ashledombos> yes you need something like shutter to have more or less the same features :) I agree Plasma is by default much better, especially the «open with»
[15:12] <ashledombos> wich is a pain in all gtk environment
[15:12] <hazamonzo> :)
[15:14] <ashledombos> the transition to flat design is very good too in Plasma 5, I'm discovering it since two days
[15:14] <ashledombos> the «alternatives» in widget is a good surprise
[15:16] <ashledombos> have some crashing widget but I guess some are still fresh
[15:16] <hazamonzo> Alternatives?
[15:18] <ashledombos> yes, when you right click on task bar or «K» menu
[15:18] <ashledombos> for instance
[15:19] <ashledombos> you can switch to ful screen menu… icon tasks etc
[15:20] <ashledombos> without having to nemove a widget and add a new one
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:34] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[15:35] <hazamonzo> Hi BluesKaj
[15:37] <BluesKaj> Hi clivejo, hazamonzo
[15:37] <clivejo> o?
[15:37] <clivejo> o/
[18:11] <CircuitZero> I've been trying to get base mosaic working on my nvidia cards for a while now - what am I doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/sTtBZUf0
[19:49] <jubo2> I need to move some partitions to a bigger disk
[19:50] <jubo2> Someone mentioned here it can be done with dd
[19:50] <jubo2> but wouldn't Gparted also be useful in that?
[19:54] <jubo2> what happens if I remove the partition marked "boot"?
[19:54] <jubo2> I need to get rid of /dev/sda1
[19:54] <jubo2> it's an old broken Kubuntu
[22:01] <wuschLOR> hi there just a fix question I'm starting tu use akonadi - for mails (working) but I'm not sure where do integrate the smtp ?
[22:01] <wuschLOR> any help here ?
[22:04] <keithzg_> Sad that 15.10 still doesn't fix my lack of VTs on my main PC :(
[22:04] <valorie> wuschLOR: integrate the smtp>
[22:04] <valorie> ?
[22:04] <valorie> are you talking about setting up kmail?
[22:05] <valorie> if so, #kontact might be better
[22:05] <valorie> keithzg_: how many do you need?
[22:05] <keithzg_> valorie: "Any" would be nice :P
[22:05] * valorie happily uses yakuake
[22:05] <wuschLOR> valorie: the question is do i have to add it to akonadi or to kmail
[22:05] <Unit193> keithzg_: Didn't I help you fix this?
[22:05] <valorie> wuschLOR: to kmail
[22:05] <keithzg_> valorie: You helped me try to, never actually worked :(
[22:05] <valorie> ?
[22:06] <wuschLOR> I just saw im using kontact
[22:06] <valorie> wuschLOR: kmail is one part of Kontact, yeah
[22:06] <valorie> yakuake doesn't work for you?
[22:06] <valorie> horrors
[22:06] <keithzg_> valorie: Oh, no, yakuake works fine.
[22:06] <valorie> ok
[22:06] <valorie> whew
[22:07] <valorie> my son insists on konsole, which is fine
[22:07] <valorie> or.... are you talking the alt+f2, 3, 4 etc? VTs
[22:08] <keithzg_> valorie: Yakuake's undeniably my #1 used application, heh, has been for years. Yeah my problem is on my one machine since the 15.04 upgrade I haven't been able to ex. ctrl-alt-f1 and get a terminal, which is fairly useful when a fullscreen game locks up, plasma crashes and doesn't restart, etc.
[22:08] <valorie> because that seems a bit buggy at times here too
[22:08] <valorie> alt+f1 doesn't work
[22:09] <Unit193> keithzg_: sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/systemd/system/[email protected] /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/[email protected] && sudo systemctl start [email protected] then try switching to tty1?
[22:09] <valorie> err, now it does, but immediately fills with error messages
[22:09] <Unit193> I did that and it worked like a charm.
[22:10] <valorie> all of them immediately fill with error messages for me
[22:10] <valorie> errr, alt+ctl+f1 I meant
[22:11] <valorie> must ingest moar coffee
[22:11] <keithzg_> valorie: Yup, I gotcha :) Hmm. I'll have to reboot this machine to try that (was trying to see if it'd work under upstart). I wonder how I'll do that . . .
[22:11] <Unit193> Ctrl+Alt+F1, right. Well sometimes TTY1 does have some output from boot, I tend to favor TTY3 personally (I have the journel output on 12.)
[22:12] <Unit193> Hah, well yeah, that won't affect upstart. :D
[22:13] <keithzg_> Unit193: Worse, if you boot under upstart with 15.10, it appears that the GUI buttons in SDDM don't actually work for restarting! It does the countdown . . . and the countdown keeps going once it hits zero, then -1, then -2 . . .
[22:13] <Unit193> keithzg_: Ahaha! That's pretty awesome. :D
[22:13] <Unit193> Wait, do you have systemd-shim installed?
[22:14] <keithzg_> Unit193: Appears that I do on that machine.
[22:15] <wuschLOR> valorie: hmm ... dosn't realy work - think I try it tomorrow when I'm not sleepy
[22:15] <Unit193> OK, in *theory* it should work with -shim installed.
[22:15] <keithzg_> Unit193: I do swear it worked a while back, this is the first time I tried it on 15.10 though.
[22:16] <keithzg_> valorie: Yeah sadly I still just get a blank screen on tty1.
[22:16] <valorie> wuschLOR: for kmail etc. questions, #kontact is the best place to ask
[22:16] <valorie> keithzg_: ewww
[22:16] <wuschLOR> ah ok
[22:16] <Unit193> keithzg_: Huh, worked for me where it didn't before.
[22:16] <wuschLOR> ty
[22:16] <valorie> although I'm not sure my screen full of error messages is better
[22:16] <wuschLOR> excelent lets hope i wont need it
[22:16] <keithzg_> heh
[22:17] <wuschLOR> never thougt it would be so hard to send letters now that getting them is so easy
[22:17] <Unit193> keithzg_: What about manually starting it on tty1?
[22:18] <Unit193> keithzg_: Or perhaps before doing that, show me sudo systemctl status [email protected]
[22:19] <keithzg_> Unit193: Claims all is well: https://paste.kde.org/pj9s1xreo
[22:21] <keithzg_> Although . . . there's no /usr/lib/systemd/system/ ?
[22:21] <Unit193> /lib/systemd/system/
[22:23] <keithzg_> Ah, right, was looking at the wrong of the two paths.
[22:24] <keithzg_> Still, I can't see how the service *would* be working since it's a symlink pointed towards /usr/lib/systemd/system/[email protected] which doesn't exist?
[22:25] * keithzg_ grabs valorie some coffee ;)
[22:26] * Unit193 has been wondering if keithzg_ is having brain segfaults.
[22:27] <valorie> https://paste.kde.org/px4pys7x0 is mine, Unit193
[22:27] <valorie> thanks for the coffee keithzg_!
[22:28] <valorie> gotta rake some more leaves before the sun sets here, though
[22:28] <keithzg_> valorie: You still had leaves to rake up?
[22:29] * keithzg_ and his northern climate are jealous
[22:31] <valorie> I'm taking the last of the neighbor's big-leaf maple leaves
[22:31] <valorie> my own sparse leaves are where they should be, on the beds
[22:31] <keithzg_> valorie: Ah, I see I see
[22:31] <valorie> but the bare ones get the maple leaves this year
[22:32] <valorie> courtesy of my cold hands and feet out raking in freezing weather
[22:32] <valorie> should have done it before it rained, when I could have just mowed them with the power mower
[22:32] <valorie> but no, lacked the time back then
[22:33] <keithzg_> Ah yes, the perpetual and invariably ironic problem of lacking the time to do things the easier way until it's too late!
[22:34] <keithzg_> Unit193: Correcting the symlink and restarting that service seems to have accomplished nothing, alas. I'm a bit unclear here why "systemctl status" reported all was well despite the symlink being bogus.
[22:35] <keithzg_> Interestingly enough, although the systemctl output is nearly identical, using the classic service $servicename status adds this line to the output: "Nov 22 15:30:43 district agetty[3161]: /dev/tty1.service: No such file or directory".
[22:35] <keithzg_> But I guess that's just the difference between formulations. Maybe my brain *is* segfaulting ;)
[22:42] * keithzg_ is very much not a fan of things where no matter what's broken or what changes are made to fix it, the logs still all report the same blasé assurances :P
[23:16] <Unit193> keithzg_: Weird, evening having the symlink wrong still seems to run the service. 0_o
[23:16] <Unit193> I had forgotten to correct that when I added that for my own, and ps shows all 3 running already.
[23:18] <bprompt> hmm
[23:25] <Unit193> keithzg_: I think we can agree that systemd is doing some form of voodoo here, but yeah corrected those links.
[23:33] <Unit193> keithzg_: You still with me kermit?
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2015-11-22-#snappy
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[21:15] <faenil> success \o/
[21:15] <faenil> snappy ported to a new board :)
[22:58] <sergiusens> faenil, nice!
[22:59] <faenil> :)
[22:59] <sergiusens> faenil, so what was your issue?
[22:59] <sergiusens> I would like to have it documented somewhere (maybe askubuntu)
[22:59] <faenil> sergiusens: what was the issue I asked about, here? (sorry, don't remember)
[23:04] <sergiusens> faenil, your partitions were seen as one big blob
[23:04] <sergiusens> in u-boot and some other tools
[23:04] <faenil> sergiusens: ah, right, that was embarassing, I think I just had a type and was dd'ing to sdb1 instead of sdb....
[23:04] <faenil> typo*
[23:04] <sergiusens> faenil, ah; right, that is indeed a common issue :-)
[23:04] <faenil> :)
[23:05] <sergiusens> but its hard to think of it when asked
[23:05] <faenil> sure ;)
[23:05] <sergiusens> faenil, well I am glad you got it working!
[23:05] <faenil> but at that point I still had beagleblack oem snap etc
[23:05] <faenil> now I have all properly setup, except I think my board can't start uboot from sd
[23:05] <faenil> so I think uboot in the oem snap is not needed at all
[23:06] <faenil> I sent an email to customer support of the board to ask for confirmation, but their wiki says that loading uboot from sd is only supported on another module, not mine
[23:08] <sergiusens> faenil, oh, that is a bummer, can you update the bootloader on the board directly?
[23:08] <faenil> sergiusens: yep, by putting it on the sd and running a couple of commands
[23:09] <faenil> that's what I've done :)
[23:14] <sergiusens> yeah, as long as there is a way to do it
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-za
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[04:08] <theblazehen> maaz tell smallpox wouldn't encrypting the db not help, as the db will need to be mounted if the db is running, which it will be if it's owned?
[04:08] <Maaz> theblazehen: Got it, I'll tell smallpox on freenode
[06:17] <superfly> theblazehen: this is true. Also, security is a multi layered thing, and the more layers you implement, the more secure your data is.
[06:17] <Symmetria> sup
[06:17] <Symmetria> :)
[06:17] <theblazehen> superfly: Exactly
[06:18] <Symmetria> http://server.alstonnetworks.net/photos/IMG_0184.JPG <[06:19] <theblazehen> Symmetria: reddit.com/r/serverporn reddit.com/r/cableporn
[06:21] <Symmetria> lol
[06:21] <Symmetria> http://server.alstonnetworks.net/photos/IMG_0196.JPG <[06:21] <Symmetria> ;p
[06:21] <Symmetria> lol did that to protect the fiber optics
[06:21] <theblazehen> Yeah
[06:21] <Symmetria> even if the cabling is a mess
[06:22] <Symmetria> heh those really thin white fibers are what connect me to the net
[06:22] <Symmetria> 2 x 10G :)
[06:22] <theblazehen> You don't want to see mine at home. 5 multi plugs..
[06:22] <theblazehen> Nice
[06:22] <theblazehen> All running off a single outlet...
[06:23] <Symmetria> heh I got a 32 amp breaker for my office
[06:23] <theblazehen> Nice, 16A here
[06:23] <theblazehen> You running linux on there?
[06:24] <theblazehen> Ah, 2 PCs. Running 5 displays (was 6) off a single pc
[12:11] <superfly> Hey gremble
[12:12] <gremble> Hey superfly
[12:12] <gremble> How are you today?
[12:12] <theblazehen> Hi gremble, superfly
[12:13] <gremble> Hey theblazehen
[12:13] <superfly> Hi theblazehen
[12:13] <superfly> gremble: tired
[12:14] <superfly> And no Internet at home because my line is stuffed and Telkom needs to lay replacement cable
[12:15] <gremble> Having to deal with statal and parastatal organisations make my bones ache
[12:22] <gremble> I need some consumer advice. My sister is going to uni next year and we need to get her a laptop. Can either of you recommend a nice midrange laptop? I can budget up to 20k
[12:27] <theblazehen> gremble: How much would you count as midrange?
[12:28] <theblazehen> http://www.wootware.co.za/dell-latitude-3550-intel-core-i5-5200u-2-2ghz-8gb-2x-4gb-1600mhz-ddr3l-1tb-5400rpm-hdd-nvida-gt-830m-15-6-full-hd-1920x1080-anti-glare-led-windows-7-professional-64bit-notebook.html Is decent, and has Intel wifi, meaning that the drivers work quite well
[12:28] <gremble> I would assume top end laptops are corporate and gaming beasts and those are like 27k+ so I would assume that anything between 10 and 20 is midrange
[12:28] <gremble> I don't trust R4000 laptops. :x
[12:29] <theblazehen> yeah, same here
[12:29] <theblazehen> http://www.wootware.co.za/dell-nbdeca004l3550emea-latitude-3550-intel-core-i5-5200u-2-2ghz-4gb-1600mhz-ddr3l-500gb-7200rpm-hdd-15-6-hd-1366x768-anti-glare-wled-backlit-windows-7-pro-notebook.html This has intel graphics (Great drivers!) Maybe get an SSD, and another 4 GB RAM?
[12:30] <theblazehen> Also has intel wifi
[12:31] <theblazehen> I'd go for the 1st one, has a full HD screen and closed source nvidia drivers work well too. 8GB ram is a plus
[12:31] <theblazehen> With 8 GB RAM there isn't much need for an ssd really
[12:32] <gremble> The first one does look very nice. She'll appreciate the fact that she'll be able to game a little bit on it
[12:32] <theblazehen> Wait, I'm guessing she runs windows.. In that case I'd still go for the first, but there are no driver troubles, and yeah that is nice as well
[12:33] <theblazehen> I currently game on my Intel HD4600 overclocked to 1.4 GHz, while it drives 5 displays.. It's *okay*
[12:33] <theblazehen> Plays fallout 3 at low
[12:33] <gremble> Yes. I haven't been able to convert her successfully :P
[12:33] <gremble> She still wants to play league of legends with her boyfriend
[12:33] <theblazehen> Using wine-staging and CSMT, perhaps 50 fps. So the intel chips aren't too bad really
[12:34] <theblazehen> Yeah, wine won't work for that
[12:38] <gremble> Thanks theblazehen. I also forgot about wootware, but I remember you told me about them already :P I made sure to bookmark the site this time
[12:38] <theblazehen> Cool :) yeah, great deals there
[12:39] <gremble> Now all I have to do is remember everything that I did in my software architecture class
[12:39] <theblazehen> hah, have fun with that!
[12:44] <gremble> Did you know that you can get a certification for doing UML?
[12:45] <theblazehen> Nope, TIL
[12:46] <gremble> I didn't know it was something that needed more than a pamphlet to teach. There are some things that you have to remeber, but it is like getting a certificate for knowing how to draw one of those "breinkaarte" from grade 5
[12:46] <theblazehen> yeah
[12:46] <gremble> http://www.omg.org/ocup-2/ :P
[12:47] <theblazehen> Awesome
[12:47] <gremble> That is why I like mathematics. It doesn't ask of me to become certified in graph theory, it just lets me do wild things to graphs
[12:48] <theblazehen> To be fair, you don't need to be certified in linux stuff either
[12:48] <gremble> You do
[12:48] <gremble> LPI certs
[12:48] <gremble> Novell certs
[12:48] <gremble> Networking certs
[12:49] <theblazehen> Well, to do it for a living, sure
[12:49] <gremble> I considered doing something in that domain, but I have a bursary for a degree, not really one for certifications
[12:49] <theblazehen> yeah
[13:18] <gremble> http://www.yegor256.com/2014/12/01/orm-offensive-anti-pattern.html This guy is incredibly angry about ORM
[13:53] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:54] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos, what's up?
[13:54] <Kilos> afternoon superfly Cryterion gremble theblazehen and of course inetpro
[13:54] <Kilos> temperature mailny
[13:54] <Kilos> mainly
[13:55] <theblazehen> lol, true
[13:55] <Kilos> hows you theblazehen
[13:55] <theblazehen> I'm doing alright and you?
[13:55] <Kilos> good ty
[15:33] <superfly> Kilos: ai
[15:33] <Kilos> what superfly
[15:34] <Kilos> you left out the ! after ai!
[15:34] <superfly> You never came to the airport
[15:36] <Kilos> aw sorry sir
[15:36] <Kilos> welcome home
[15:36] <Kilos> you forgot to tell me when you arriving
[15:36] <Kilos> hehe
[16:26] <superfly> Kilos: got back yesterday
[16:26] <superfly> I logged into IRC while at the airport, but no one was around
[16:26] <Kilos> aw sorry
[18:23] <captine> evening all
[18:24] <captine> loooong time
[18:25] <theblazehen> hey captine!
[18:25] <gremble> Hey captine
[18:27] <captine> anyone else running 15.10 gnome edition?
[19:57] <Kilos> night all.sleep tight
[19:57] <Kilos> wb cap
[19:58] <Kilos> ai!
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-classroom
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[15:52] <Calme> c'est bien on peux pas ce fair bannir ici
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2015-11-22-#kubuntu-devel
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[02:01] <valorie> hmmm, I don't think I'm willing to add kci wily unstable to this box, even to test kdeconnect
[09:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:19] <yofel> !testers | Plasma 5.4.3 SRU Packages in staging-plasma for wily
[11:19] <shadeslayer> enotime
[11:19] <shadeslayer> need to get sitter to finish the booze
[11:20] <yofel> they have a lower version than the ones in backports, so if you have those installed you'll need a VM or so
[11:20] <soee> it was alrady tested in wily
[11:20] <yofel> right, so I really just want someone else to do a quick check that nothing's obviously wrong
[11:20] <yofel> as the code was already tested
[11:21] <yofel> then I can copy them to /ppa
[11:27] <mparillo> yofel: on this HW I already have backports, but I just created a clean Wily 15.10 VM to generate a screenshot for Wikipedia. Will be back in 15 minutes or so
[11:27] <yofel> mparillo: you might want to do the screenshots before the update
[11:28] <yofel> 5.4.3 annoyingly messes with the branding
[11:28] <yofel> (splash and lock screen background)
[11:32] <mparillo> yofel: The screenshot is already posted. ahoneybun recommended the blank, default one, but at least we have one in the gallery.
[11:32] <yofel> ok, great, thanks
[11:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13443365/
[12:13] <marco-parillo> yofel: sudo add-apt-repository staging-plasma ?
[12:13] <yofel> marco-parillo: yes
[12:13] <yofel> marco-parillo: wait, ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma
[12:16] <marco-parillo> 76 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:26] <marco-parillo> Upgrades completed successfully and kinfocenter reports KDE Plasma Version 5.4.3.
[12:54] <yofel> marco-parillo: thanks!
[12:54] <yofel> moving then
[13:00] <sitter> sgclark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML
[13:06] <yofel> wgrant: could you please set the disk size to ~10G for kubuntu-ppa/ppa-landing and kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing ?
[13:07] <sitter> Riddell: http://dev.yorhel.nl/ncdu
[13:52] <shadeslayer> sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13445096/
[14:13] <clivejo> is there any way to move the trello bot to another channel, or to turn off notifications for it?
[14:14] <yofel> clivejo: assuming you mean the CI, you don't want to know about breakage?
[14:14] <yofel> and fixes?
[14:15] <clivejo> no no, the trello alerts on Telegram
[14:15] <yofel> (note: if stuff would get fixed, we would get less notifications :P)
[14:15] <yofel> oh that
[14:15] <yofel> talk to ahoneybun
[14:15] * yofel muted the telegram channel
[14:15] <yofel> peace
[14:16] <clivejo> I like to see what’s going on, but I don’t like it vibrating and popping up notifications every few minutes
[14:17] <clivejo> you are using the old automation ?
[14:17] <yofel> I prefer public channels, so I'm not really paying attention to telegram
[14:17] <yofel> yes
[14:17] <clivejo> how, why?
[14:18] <yofel> well, I want to get wily done, then we can do a getting-things-done-freeze for a month or so to get our workflow in order
[14:18] <clivejo> the ng tools not working?
[14:18] <yofel> dunno, git-clone-all works after I did some patching, but that's all I used so far
[14:19] <yofel> so, I kind of use both branches in parallel, depending on what I do
[14:19] <clivejo> havent seen santa in a while :/
[14:19] <yofel> me neither, but considering we already have a bunch of things, we can go from there and fix things up so they work
[14:20] <yofel> although I again curse the complete lack of test coverage of the new code :/
[14:20] <clivejo> is qa.kubuntu.co.uk working then?
[14:20] <yofel> it should
[14:21] <yofel> I did fix that to pull the automation relevant stuff from git
[14:21] <clivejo> I see frameworks 5.15 there, but no status
[14:22] <yofel> well, we have 5.15 in the archive, so the PPA is probably empty
[14:22] <yofel> the cronjobs that create the pages run whether there's something to generate or not
[14:22] <yofel> FYI: I only fixed the branch situation for plasma so far
[14:22] <clivejo> so many saved lemmings!
[14:23] <yofel> let me fix the rest (I got distracted by patching git-clone-all even more)
[14:23] <clivejo> what are you working on?
[14:24] <yofel> plasma 5.4.3 for xenial
[14:24] <clivejo> would you mine talking it out, I mean what you are doing
[14:25] <clivejo> mind
[14:25] <clivejo> might learn something :/
[14:25] <yofel> erm, let me try to remember what I did in between fixing random scripts, talking about CI branches with scarlett and harald and not getting distracted by harald being crazy
[14:27] <clivejo> I see dependency wait on kwin-dev
[14:28] <clivejo> is that part of the kwin package?
[14:28] <yofel> so, I kind of did: "fix a bug in staging-upload, fix another bug in staging-upload, fix missing xenial-branches with bash scripting and git-clone-all, run staging-upload with --nopush and --paused, upload everything, pause automation, run bash scriptery to push branches, unpause automation, fix config for the status page"
[14:29] <yofel> right, give launchpad some time, depwait is re-evaluated regularly
[14:29] <marco-parillo> Just to feed my idle curiousity, why not go straight to https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.4.95.php for Xenial? Does landing on 5.4.3 first reduce errors?
[14:29] * clivejo poked it :/
[14:30] <yofel> marco-parillo: because I want to get .3 into wily, which requires xenial to have at least .3, and pushing .3 to xenial is a lot less work than pusing .95
[14:30] <yofel> we'll probably skip .95 anyway
[14:30] <yofel> other prioirties
[14:30] <yofel> I'm typing to much
[14:32] <marco-parillo> Get .3 into wily without a ppa, right?
[14:32] <clivejo> yofel: why is xenial called senial on KCI?
[14:33] <yofel> right
[14:33] <yofel> clivejo: erm, that somehow had to do with harald and booze and more pointless stuff
[14:34] <clivejo> I see, the crazy stuff you mentioned
[14:38] <yofel> $ ./git-clone-all -r applications -w restwork/
[14:38] <yofel> Template url to clone: git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/%s/%s.git
[14:38] <yofel> Summary:
[14:38] <yofel> All packages were cloned succesfully
[14:38] <yofel> yes, all 0 packages were cloned successfully. You are not being helpful you stupid code
[14:38] <yofel> unless I broke it..
[14:38] <clivejo> 0 is a number too ;)
[14:39] <yofel> so I'm again at my point of missing test coverage
[14:46] <yofel> AAAAARGH
[14:46] <clivejo> hangover?
[14:47] <yofel> no, the automation-ng has inconsistend os.getcwd() calls all over the place *-.-
[14:47] <yofel> yields very deterministic random behavior
[14:50] <yofel> uhm, riiiight... the new tools make too many assumtions...
[14:55] <clivejo> Yippee
[14:56] <yofel> ok, so again git-clone-all is unusable for me. Back to custom shell scripting
[14:56] <clivejo> :(
[14:57] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.3-171-ge1b6c06 * Harald Sitter: (2 files in 2 dirs)
[14:57] <pursuivant> version bump to 5.5.0 for release
[14:57] <pursuivant> also credit myself with being a top gardener
[14:57] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/e1b6c06df44d952ab57a68718d05cc065b9da0de
[14:59] <soee> yofel: why do you build 5.4.3 for xenial ? :)
[14:59] <yofel> because it's something I need to get .3 into wily
[14:59] <soee> should focus here (xenial) be on 5.5 ?
[15:00] <soee> oh so it is required step ?
[15:00] <yofel> well, probably. But we have other stuff, so we'll probably not look at 5.5 soon
[15:02] <sitter> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/muon-5.5.0.tar.xz
[15:03] <yofel> soee: for the SRU, I need to have a higher version already in dev, so pushing .3 to willy while xenial has .2 isn't allowed
[15:06] <clivejo> yofel: looks like plasma is all green now
[15:06] <yofel> well, almost
[15:07] <clivejo> plasma-desktop will go green, just needs to publish
[15:07] <clivejo> can I test these?
[15:08] <yofel> well go ahead, but I'll throw them into the archive anyway
[15:08] <clivejo> on xenial or wily?
[15:09] <yofel> xenial
[15:28] <clivejo> anyone know why when I click on the task-bar to switch windows, do I pick up a short-cut? Especially with dolphin it seems
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:55] <sitter> allee_, yofel: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.kde.talk/1221
[16:38] <sitter> allee_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29
[17:23] <clivejo> yofel sitter are you still in Munich?
[17:41] <sitter> clivejo: singing with Riddell right now
[17:41] <sitter> clivejo: you are supposed to come to fosdem I hear
[17:41] <clivejo> singing what?!?
[17:42] <clivejo> sitter: is senile the KDE codename for xenial?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> clivejo, no , it's the same meaning as genial, I think
[17:50] <clivejo> just wondering why its senile on the KCI
[17:50] <clivejo> sitter: I dont even know what fosdem is
[18:00] <sitter> senile is senile
[18:01] <sitter> also, google fosdem
[18:01] <sitter> biggest free software conference in the world Riddell says
[18:07] <clivejo> why would I want to go there?!?
[18:09] <clivejo> has Riddell lost the ability to type?
[18:09] <Riddell> what what?
[18:09] <clivejo> LOL
[18:10] <clivejo> what are you singing?
[18:17] <Riddell> the KDE musical!
[18:18] <clivejo> :/
[18:26] <clivejo> is yofel and sgclark taking part?
[18:28] <Riddell> yofel left alas
[18:29] <Riddell> sgclark is being a diva as usual
[18:33] <sgclark> lo wut!?!
[18:33] <sgclark> lol
[18:39] <BluesKaj> clivejo, my kdeconnect phone version is 0.9e , but the latest for my pc is the 0.8 on this ppa..is the 0.9e version available for my pc anywhere else?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> https://code.launchpad.net/~vikoadi/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/
[18:51] <Riddell> alleehol: http://whirlpoolcinema.com/idee/ it's got to be done
[18:54] <lordievader> sitter, clivejo: Do I hear a FOSDEM meet up?
[18:54] <sitter> yes
[18:54] <sitter> Riddell organized a partee
[18:54] <sitter> with pizza
[18:54] <sitter> and booze
[18:54] <sitter> and whisky
[18:55] <sitter> and wine
[18:55] <Riddell> lordievader: https://community.kde.org/Promo/Events/FOSDEM/2016
[18:56] <lordievader> I'm not sure if I will be albe to help out this year. I was planning on visiting more talks.
[18:57] <lordievader> able*
[19:48] <yofel> home sweet home
[19:48] <clivejo> you missed the musical yofel?
[19:48] <yofel> looks like it :(
[19:49] <clivejo> thats a shame
[19:56] <clivejo> senile still has a lot of broken packages :(
[20:00] <clivejo> OMG an email from the IRS, I have back taxes
[20:03] <BluesKaj> usually tax revenue depts will send a letter by post/mail, not email , at least that's how it's done in Canada...however I dd receive a confirmation by email after filing my tax return online
[20:05] <BluesKaj> clivejo, did you see my post about kdeconnect versions for the pc?
[20:05] <clivejo> I just read it
[20:06] <clivejo> Im not sure what happened with my device, I cant replicate it
[20:07] <BluesKaj> anyway that ppa doesn't have the latest 0.9e version for the desktop pc, so my kdeconnect is broken
[20:08] <clivejo> have you tried the one in my PPA?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> didn't know you had a ppa
[20:08] <clivejo> what version of kubuntu you have?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> 16.04 and 14.04
[20:09] <BluesKaj> dual boot , no VMs here
[20:09] <clivejo> can we test your xenial one?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> ok i'm on it
[20:10] <clivejo> lets grab the lastest, just a sec
[20:11] <clivejo> amd64?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> yep\
[20:12] <clivejo> can you installl this package - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/8320830/+files/kdeconnect-plasma_0.9%2Bgit20151119.2207%2B16.04-0_amd64.deb
[20:16] <BluesKaj> the deb installer it doesn't respond
[20:17] <clivejo> error message?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> letme check the logs
[20:30] <BluesKaj> clivejo, the deb installer worked after I purged the old version, but the devices still don't see each other
[20:30] <clivejo> are they on the same network?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:31] <clivejo> have you tried removed them and refreshing?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> yes, no reognititon
[20:34] <clivejo> can you load the app on your phone and try it both ways?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> yes,already did that
[20:36] <clivejo> and you are sure you are on WiFi via your phone, not mobile data?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> clivejo, yes, my data options are turned off, this phone is pay as we go , so I don't surf the net thru the cell network. It's quite expensive to do that here.
[20:39] <clivejo> then I dont know, have you a firewall on xenial?
[20:40] <BluesKaj> just the normal default ufw
[20:44] <BluesKaj> clivejo, let me switch to 14.04 to check if it works
[21:10] <BluesKaj> clivejo, ok I managed to get Xenial connected after disabling the ufw, however that converns me a little altho I've never had a breach of any kind
[21:11] <BluesKaj> not real big on iptables rules ... suppose I should do soemresearch on it
[21:12] <BluesKaj> anyway other stuff to do now ...laters
[23:02] <wgrant> yofel: Done.
[23:23] <valorie> thanks, wgrant
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[00:12] <shallwe> agora ficou bom, alterei o ubuntu.css :) agora a sombra da janela ficou menos "grosseira"
[00:12] <shallwe> unity é puro css maior baba de mexer :)
[00:29] <MerliM> shallwe, tá ai mano
[00:29] <MerliM> boa noite
[00:30] <astroo-> ola
[00:40] <hggdh> unity usa qt
[00:50] <shallwe> boa noite
[00:52] <astroo-> shallwe ola ja falamos alguma vez?
[00:53] <shallwe> astroo-: depende sobre oq?
[00:53] <shallwe> frequento a sala a anos já
[00:54] <astroo-> o meu super projeto gratis para os povos
[00:54] <shallwe> astroo-: vc é de portugal?
[00:54] <astroo-> certo
[00:55] <shallwe> astroo-: então já :) mas infelizmente pra mim não serve, mas valeu, já me convidastes uma vez
[00:55] <astroo-> obrigado
[00:55] <shallwe> portugal é quase outro mundo comparado ao brasil, culturas muito extremas
[00:56] <astroo-> no meu caso ainda bem na maior parte da diferença
[00:59] <shallwe> :)
[01:07] <MerliM> hggdh, unity usa qt essa é nova sempre imaginei que fosse montado emcima do gnome-shell
[01:07] <MerliM> com gtk3
[01:08] <MerliM> shallwe, sobre sua dica do pidgin queria agradecer novamente estou usando facebook - skype e whatsapp todos nele
[01:08] <MerliM> e gtalk
[01:08] <MerliM> claro
[01:09] <shallwe> MerliM: tranquilo :)
[01:09] <shallwe> tb uso aqui
[01:14] <hggdh> MerliM: não :-)
[01:23] <MerliM> tnksss
[01:23] <MerliM> :D
[01:23] <MerliM> teu resource qual é??
[01:24] <MerliM> shallwe,
[01:24] <shallwe> oi
[01:24] <MerliM> teu resource??
[01:24] <MerliM> qual é
[01:25] <shallwe> resource do que?
[01:25] <MerliM> deix apra la man
[01:25] <MerliM> ahuahuah
[01:25] <MerliM> viajando aqui
[01:25] <shallwe> lol
[01:26] <shallwe> bom boa noite, liberar pc pra patroa jogar LOL kkkk
[01:27] <MerliM> :)
[02:36] <annakamilla> oi
[03:58] <Philosophus> fala MerliM
[04:36] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[05:09] <FastOSlinux> boa noite
[13:35] <MerliM> ola pessoal
[13:35] <MerliM> que tá rolando
[14:46] <MerliM> gadi_: lol
[14:52] <shallwe> ó
[16:31] <Paulo> oi
[16:31] <Paulo> boa tarde
[16:32] <Paulo> alguém ai sabe me ajudar em umas duvidas sobre notebook
[16:33] <xGrind> Paulo, tarde. diga ae a dúvida
[16:35] <Paulo> queria saber se esse notebook roda ubuntu Notebook Positivo com Intel® Core™ i3-4005U 4 GB de ram hd 500GB,SATA,7mm,5400RPM Cache 3MB Clock 1.7 GHz
[16:44] <xGrind> Paulo, rodar roda, tem que ver se não fica lento
[16:44] <Paulo> como pode o ubuntu ser tão pesado assim
[16:46] <xGrind> Paulo, ubuntu usa efeitos no unity, por isso pesa. mas tem o xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu mate que são o ubuntu com outros ambientes gráficos mais leves
[16:47] <xGrind> Paulo, pode testar no virtualbox pra ver se roda
[16:48] <Paulo> mas eu to perguntando por q tava vendo ele no site,e queria comprar,pra colocar o ubuntu
[16:53] <xGrind> Paulo, eu não sei se na sua máquina fica pesado. teria que testar
[16:53] <MerliM> Paulo: roda perfeitamente bem mano I3
[16:53] <MerliM> 4 GB
[16:54] <MerliM> inclusive podes instalar o AMD64 bits
[16:55] <Paulo> no forum houve pessoas que falaram que rodaria de boa,ate um da equipe do ubuntu,mas só quero ter certeza que vai rodar
[16:55] <MerliM> Paulo: podes comprar sem medo irmão
[16:55] <MerliM> outra coisa só pegar uma maquina com configuracao similar pode até ser um desktop mesmo desde que i3 com 4G uma config bem parecida
[16:55] <Paulo> tbm vou acresentar mais 2 GB de ram que tenho aqui
[16:55] <MerliM> baixa o ubuntu Unity do site grava em cd ou pendrive
[16:55] <MerliM> e carrega ele no modo livecd e testar
[16:56] <MerliM> acho que é testar o ubuntu sem instalação
[16:56] <MerliM> e fica usando se tu achar satisfatorio o desempenho clica em comprar espera chegar e seja feliz :D
[16:56] <Paulo> testei em um i3 de um amigo,rodou bem sem travar,placa da intel que é a mesma ou muito parecida
[16:58] <Paulo> rodou em pentium dual core,acho que vai rodar
[17:00] <MerliM> Paulo: provavelmente ele ira vim com 2 pentes de 2GB
[17:00] <MerliM> totalizando 4GB
[17:00] <MerliM> provavelmente sai mais barato que 1 de 4GB
[17:00] <MerliM> Paulo: Eu tenho CERTEZA que VAI RODAR
[17:01] <Paulo> vou ver se eles deixam eu testar o ubuntu na loja via pen drive
[17:06] <MerliM> pronto excelente ideia
[17:06] <MerliM> e não teriam porque nao ddeixar ainda mais sabendo que queres comprar o equipamento deles nada mais justo
[17:07] <MerliM> outra coisa se tiver com windows 7 vc pode devolver a licença pra MS e ser reembolsado
[17:07] <MerliM> na loja nao fazem isso porem na MS sim se existir venda casada
[17:07] <MerliM> abraços e boa sorte
[17:11] <Paulo> eles tem 2 opção,linux madriva e windows 8.1
[17:13] <Paulo> mandriva
[17:13] <shallwe> Paulo:
[17:13] <shallwe> obvio que ubuntu nao vai ficar lento kkkk
[17:13] <shallwe> vc tem uma máquina de ponta nada vai ficar lento ai
[17:14] <MerliM> mandriva
[17:14] <MerliM> com toda certezaaa
[17:14] <shallwe> instala ubuntu sem medo, eu rodo ubuntu no meu notebook um amd c-60 1 ghz dual core com 1.6gb de ram e roda legal, imagina na tua maquiba
[17:14] <MerliM> shallwe: esse teu amd c-60 é note ou net
[17:15] <MerliM> tem um acer pra vender com esse processador e vga ati radeon e já que tens um igual o que vc roda nele???
[17:15] <shallwe> MerliM: até hoje não sei a definição de net ou not, net deveria ser só pra navegar, mas mesmo assim os nets podem ser usados pra fazer oturas coisas
[17:15] <MerliM> pra eu ter uma ideia de desempenhooo
[17:15] <shallwe> MerliM: é uma vga 6290?
[17:15] <MerliM> net -> geralmente são telas até 12" no maximo e sem unidades de dvdrom
[17:16] <MerliM> qual modelo exato dele marca modelo
[17:16] <shallwe> acho que é eeepc 1510 acer algo assim
[17:16] <MerliM> deve ser o acer 1410 não é isso
[17:16] <shallwe> eu tenho certeza que o meu é um 15 alguma coisa
[17:16] <MerliM> minha prima tem um acer 1410 so que com celeron e 2gb de ram ddr2
[17:16] <shallwe> mas é tela 10pol
[17:17] <MerliM> muitoooooooooo boa a maquina tem a mais de 4 anos nunca deu problema
[17:17] <shallwe> MerliM: a sim intel geralmente é boa, mesmo sendo mais antiga
[17:17] <MerliM> so os normais formatar essas coisas limpeza fisica no mais ta ai até hoje o bixo ja pegou mais queda que nao sei o que
[17:17] <MerliM> ahuah e sobrevive até hoje
[17:17] <MerliM> muito bom
[17:17] <Paulo> eu não gosto do intel celeron,tenho um notebook assim e não da pra rodar nada
[17:17] <MerliM> entao é NETbook mano
[17:18] <shallwe> o único problema é que esse meu processador c-60 ele meio que engasga um puco na hora das páginas mais pesadas da web, ai demora um pouco mais pra abrir elas
[17:18] <shallwe> mas fora isso tudo roda blz
[17:18] <shallwe> até jogos já testei nele
[17:18] <MerliM> eu tenho um acer d250 10.1 e to satisfeito porem queria um acer one 722 ou 759 algo assim bem show eles
[17:18] <MerliM> tela de 11
[17:18] <MerliM> aceita core 2 duo
[17:19] <MerliM> ou amd c-60 ou 90 nao recordo
[17:19] <MerliM> tem com chipset intel e amd
[17:19] <shallwe> tela 11pol já salva pq a resolução é maior fogo é ter tela de 1028 x 600 kkk
[17:19] <MerliM> shallwe: o meu tb
[17:19] <Paulo> dizem que amd é dor de cabeça no linux
[17:19] <MerliM> procura o maximo suportado pela teu hardware e compra no ML deve ser baratinhoo
[17:20] <shallwe> MerliM: é mas pra isso que é bom o ubuntu, com o menu global, enconomiza um baita espaço na tela
[17:20] <shallwe> Paulo: depende se for vga
[17:20] <shallwe> as mais novas
[17:20] <MerliM> AMD VGA os drivers eram complicados
[17:20] <shallwe> mas claro isso é pra quem joga, e se alguem joga então que vá pro windows kkkk
[17:20] <MerliM> porem tem melhorado processador é de bom
[17:20] <MerliM> boa****
[17:20] <MerliM> saindo aqui galera falowss
[17:21] <shallwe> abç manolo
[17:21] <Paulo> eu consegui arrumar o da sis pra pegar resolução maxima,mas deu trabalho
[17:21] <shallwe> Paulo: a sim mas sis é antigaça
[17:21] <MerliM> se joga mano que vá pro SteamOS
[17:21] <MerliM> mané windows
[17:21] <shallwe> antes dos da intel 945gma eu acho
[17:21] <shallwe> MerliM: kkk nem vou discutir :)
[17:22] <MerliM> kkkk
[17:22] <MerliM> nem precisa
[17:22] <Paulo> eu não jogo,mas pra isso basta ter o windows em outra partição
[17:23] <shallwe> Paulo: sim eu estou no windows agora :) mas usando pigdin, patroa tava jogando LOL e eu fiquei com preguiça de dar o boot
[17:26] <Paulo> boa tarde a todos ate mais
[17:37] <mirqui> boa tarde :)
[17:40] <shallwe> boa tarde
[17:40] <mirqui> blza shallwe :)
[17:40] <mirqui> tudo bem ?
[17:41] <shallwe> tudo
[17:41] <mirqui> blza , isso que serve :)
[17:42] <mirqui> quais são as novas ?
[17:47] <mirqui> shalwe , olha isto
[17:47] <mirqui> http://www.revista.espiritolivre.org/ministerio-publico-do-parana-iniciou-migracao-para-o-libreoffice/
[17:48] <mirqui> tio bill não deve estar cobrando barato pela licença comercial do pacote office
[17:49] <mirqui> ainda mais com o dolar a 3x1
[17:50] <mirqui> imagina licenças para um orgão inteiro
[17:52] <shallwe> mirqui: na realidade pras pessoas e empresas é barato o office 360, é assinatura mensal, acho que em torno de 30 reais, em uma empresa isso é básico no custo, o que não pode acontecer é orgão público usar software privado pagando uma fortuna sendo que temos os livres
[17:52] <shallwe> afinal o custo sai do nosso bolso
[17:53] <mirqui> claro , tendo uma solução free , por que pagar os 30 mreais ?
[17:53] <mirqui> reais
[17:54] <mirqui> este dinheiro pode ir em outras coisas
[17:54] <shallwe> pq já é tudo em microsoft office, mudar tudo é muito trabalgho, treinar as pessoas tudo de novo
[17:54] <shallwe> tudo tem um custo
[17:54] <mirqui> sem falar em estar atrelado ao formato dos documentos
[17:56] <KurtKraut> shallwe, Investir em treinamento nos profissionais não é custo, é investimento. Você está melhorando e capacitando o recurso humano. Pagar licença, é apenas custo mesmo. Sai dos cofres públicos e vai para outro país, evasão de divisas.
[17:56] <mirqui> sim , mas veja , quanto isto vai ser ecomizado ao longo do tempo
[17:56] <KurtKraut> shallwe, E sinceramente? Nego não manja tanto assim de MS Office para se considerar um trunfo. Tirando negrito, sublinhado e itálico, a maioria das pessoas não sabem mexer.
[17:56] <mirqui> office não é só offoce , é windows tbm
[17:56] <shallwe> KurtKraut: por isso mesmo que estou falando de orgãos públicos, eles devem usar software livre
[17:56] <shallwe> falo do custo de migração pra emrpesas privadas
[17:57] <mirqui> máquinas mais robustas
[17:57] <KurtKraut> shallwe, Existe uma portaria de dezembro de 2014 que determina que os órgãos públicos federais do poder executivo têm que usar preferencialmente Software Livre e obrigatoriamente IPv6.
[17:57] <KurtKraut> Mas isso não tem sido respeitado
[17:57] <mirqui> win 10 roda em máquinas filezinho
[17:57] <shallwe> KurtKraut: no brasil não espero mais nada kkk
[17:57] <KurtKraut> Portaria SLTI/MP nº 92, de 24 de dezembro de 2014
[17:58] <shallwe> com certeza tem gente metendo mão em comissão
[17:58] <mirqui> não é bem a realidade dos orgãos brasileiros em geral
[17:58] <shallwe> mirqui: roda, só que pede mais ram que o normal
[17:58] <KurtKraut> shallwe, Eu diria que é um misto de segundos interesses como esse que você falou com realmente baixa competência dos gestores que insistem no software proprietário para o governo.
[17:58] <shallwe> pra rodar aceitável no mínimo 4gb
[17:58] <shallwe> KurtKraut: também, é bem complicado isso
[17:59] <shallwe> eu como não uso nada em word a não ser pra fazer os orçamentos, alguns trabalhos, uso o libreoffice claro
[17:59] <mirqui> eu ví uma reportagem antes de ontem
[18:00] <mirqui> em um curso técnico de ti
[18:00] <shallwe> agora pra muitos que mandam o pc pra ajustar ou pedem pro vizinho instalar o "windows " pra ele e os programas "word etc" ai é fogo
[18:00] <shallwe> brasileiro acha que é tudo de graça kkkk
[18:00] <mirqui> que os pcs eram fracos para rodarem os programas
[18:01] <mirqui> pcs novos para escolas , mas fracos para cursos profissionalizantes
[18:01] <mirqui> a diretora do curso disse que se sentiu debochada pelo material que entregaram a ela
[18:01] <shallwe> mas o ubuntu não fica muito atras do windows 10 não, afinal de contas não adianta você ficar querendo construir um sistema operacional pra rodar em processador de 2007
[18:01] <shallwe> tudo tem que evoluir
[18:02] <shallwe> mirqui: em que empresa isso?
[18:02] <mirqui> meu pc já tem uns 5 anos , e roda muito bem todos os linux que instalei
[18:03] <shallwe> 5 anos é novo :)
[18:03] <mirqui> não é empresa , é do governo
[18:03] <KurtKraut> Também tenho usado com sucesso Ubuntu em máquinas antigas.
[18:03] <shallwe> claro ubuntu roda em máquinas antigas tb, mas as pessoas que chegam e falam que ubuntu é pesado, vão me desculpar mas é pq estão usando um pc de 1999 só pode
[18:03] <KurtKraut> Principalmente o Ubuntu Gnome. Na minha experiência subjetiva, bem mais rápido que o Ubuntu tradicional com Unity. E não é apenas o ubuntu-gnome (pacote), é a ISO oficial Ubuntu Gnome.
[18:04] <mirqui> vc viu aquela reportagem que eles compraram uma caldeira para um curso de frezador
[18:04] <shallwe> KurtKraut: sim, pois o unity roda em cima de gnome, teria que ficar um pouco mais pesado, mas hoje em dia qualquer processador tem video onboard isso não deveria ser problema
[18:04] <mirqui> uma máquina que afia ferramentas por 70 vezes o valor de mercado
[18:04] <shallwe> afinal de contas, se tem video onboard seria pra ser usado :)
[18:05] <shallwe> mirqui: não to sabendo, mas não é novidade aqui no Brasil kkk
[18:06] <shallwe> agora me diz, se ubuntu roda blz em um core 2 duo um processador 2009, que diabos eles querem reclamando que ubuntu não roda em processador mais antigos kkk
[18:06] <shallwe> piada né
[18:06] <shallwe> 2009 pra pc é século passado já
[18:06] <shallwe> acham que só pq é linux tem que rodar em pc antigo kkkk
[18:07] <KurtKraut> shallwe, Na minha experiência pessoal, o que mais implica em performance lenta em máquinas antigas é o HD já 'idoso', com pouco throughput de I/O.
[18:07] <shallwe> KurtKraut: interessante, bom saber
[18:07] <KurtKraut> shallwe, Pega um Celeron com 2GB de RAM, põe um SSD e o Ubuntu. Decola a máquina.
[18:08] <KurtKraut> Com ~R$250,00 você ressuscita uma máquina
[18:08] <shallwe> a bom mas celeron ainda vai, problema é o video onboard
[18:08] <shallwe> acho que a 954gma ainda rola no ubuntu 15.10 nao?
[18:08] <shallwe> 945
[18:08] <KurtKraut> shallwe, Tô sem sucata para testar aqui :D Mas sou confiante que rola, principalmente Gnome.
[18:10] <shallwe> KurtKraut: a sim gnome ubuntu é melhor mesmo
[18:10] <shallwe> e outra em último caso se instala uma vga onboard, isso hoje em dia é quase dado
[18:10] <shallwe> as mais antigas
[18:11] <shallwe> onboard não digo pci express
[18:21] <SeuTio> boa tarde
[18:21] <shallwe> boa tarde
[18:23] <SeuTio> eu sou inciante em linux, por aqui consigo aprender bastante coisa ?
[18:23] <shallwe> SeuTio: depende, vc já instalou o ubuntu?
[18:24] <KurtKraut> SeuTio, Por aqui, num bate papo? Não.
[18:24] <KurtKraut> SeuTio, Você aprenderá bastante coisa lendo documentação, tutoriais.
[18:24] <SeuTio> ja sim, ja usei pra basico
[18:25] <shallwe> SeuTio: pra uso básico não tem muita coisa, se já está instalado ele faz tudo pra vc, só manter atualizado
[18:26] <shallwe> e instalar os aplicativos pela centra de aplicativos do ubuntu
[18:26] <shallwe> o resto vai depender do software que vc usar
[18:26] <SeuTio> eu queria entender bem como funciona o ubuntu, vi que muitos falam mal, porem pro que usei eu gostei
[18:26] <shallwe> mas claro qualquer dúvida nos pergunte
[18:26] <shallwe> sempre vai ter gente falando mal de alguma coisa :)
[18:26] <SeuTio> mas quero aprender a usar o s.o fazendo jus a area que estou aprendendo
[18:28] <SeuTio> qual site voces me indicam para que eu possa conhecer melhor o ubuntu, e outras versoes de linux
[18:29] <shallwe> SeuTio: o ubuntu tem a ajuda lá tem bastante coisas
[18:29] <shallwe> as dicas dos comandos etc como funciona
[18:30] <SeuTio> eu vou dar uma olhada maior lá
[18:30] <shallwe> isso qualquer dúvida de repente podemos sanar
[18:32] <SeuTio> eu fiz um curso , porem o prfoessor de sistemas nao soube nso mostrar o verdadeiro ubuntu, e 90% da aula era comando de windows
[18:32] <shallwe> curso de que?
[18:33] <SeuTio> tecnico de informatica
[18:33] <SeuTio> porem era voltado a programaçao
[18:34] <shallwe> a sim
[18:35] <shallwe> eu já trabalhei com isso e raramente pegava máquinas com linux
[18:36] <SeuTio> e eu vi que um professor meu usava o ubuntu pra tudo e criei curiosidade
[18:38] <shallwe> é legal, mas como tecnico em informática tem que saber tudo , ubuntu windows mac etc
[18:39] <SeuTio> windows eu ja uso bem, preciso aprender ubuntu
[18:39] <SeuTio> mac, quem sabe num futuro
[19:06] <mirqui> seu tio , a quanto tempo vc está experimentando o linux ?
[19:08] <SeuTio> eu usava raramente, mas ja tem quase um ano e meio
[19:09] <mirqui> eu faz uns 2 anos , mas sou usuário final
[19:09] <mirqui> sei usar pouco o terminal
[19:10] <SeuTio> eu sei muito pouco, muito mesmo
[19:10] <mirqui> quer dicas de sites de linux ?
[19:11] <SeuTio> claro
[19:11] <mirqui> diolinux
[19:11] <mirqui> toca do tux
[19:11] <mirqui> kretcheu , esse é mais sobre redes
[19:11] <SeuTio> vou dar uma olhada em todos
[19:12] <mirqui> para saber comandos linux tem o foca linux
[19:13] <SeuTio> eu to procurando eles
[19:14] <mirqui> para livre office , procura por libreoffice + eliane domingos
[19:15] <mirqui> tem um cara tbm , um franco brasileiro , que o nome não lembro
[19:15] <mirqui> twiter aprigio simoẽs
[19:15] <mirqui> ubuntero
[19:16] <SeuTio> vou procurar mais, quanto mais informaçoes eu tiver, melhor
[19:16] <mirqui> http://softwarelivre.org/portal/noticias/lista-de-podcasts-de-ti
[19:17] <mirqui> este ai tem vários sites , podcasts
[19:18] <mirqui> tem outro o canalteck
[19:18] <mirqui> http://canaltech.com.br/tag/Podcast/
[19:18] <mirqui> canaltech
[19:19] <SeuTio> beleza , vou dar uma olhada bem afundo
[19:20] <mirqui> bom , para começar é um prato cheio :)
[19:21] <SeuTio> vlaeu
[19:21] <SeuTio> valeu*
[21:29] <Guest72655> Boa noite !
[21:30] <mirqui> blza :)
[21:31] <Guest72655> Alguém vivo ae pra tocar umas ideias ? mais pra responder algumas dúvidas. rs rs
[21:31] <mirqui> ahahaha vivo e assistindo o faustão :)
[21:32] <mirqui> mas dá para trocar uma idéia
[21:32] <Guest72655> faustão.. ? caraca...
[21:32] <Guest72655> XD
[21:32] <mirqui> ahahah estou numa gripe braba ahaha
[21:32] <lynxer10_> boa tarde pessoal
[21:33] <mirqui> faustão não é nada
[21:33] <mirqui> e ai lynxer :)
[21:33] <Guest72655> mirqui: tenta responder uma coisa pra mim por favor.
[21:33] <mirqui> se der , vamos lá
[21:35] <Guest72655> Primeiro... um server 2008 ... dezenas de estações windows 7 ... eu uso um ubuntu pra fazer autenticação de usuário por quais motivos ? Por que isso ?
[21:35] <mirqui> ahahaha mas não faço a mínima idéia meu amigo , sou novo no linux :)
[21:36] <Guest72655> deu certinho então... rs rs rs rs
[21:36] <mirqui> mas acho que no caso , o linux foi feito para isso :)
[21:38] <Guest72655> mirqui acho que o restante estão assistindo algo melhor que faustão.. :B
[21:39] <Guest72655> Fala ae Ricardo__
[21:41] <Guest72655> Ou não né.
[21:41] <mirqui> oi guest , voltei , pipistop :)
[21:42] <mirqui> na verdade estou vendo um video do diolinux
[21:43] <mirqui> sobre a distro duzeru , , muito legal
[21:43] <hggdh> ...
[21:43] <Guest72655> ótimo, legal... sei p. nenhuma. XD
[21:44] <mirqui> mas santinho vc não é , do ramo de t.i deve ser
[21:44] <mirqui> pq não teria me perguntado o que perguntou ahahah
[21:45] <Guest72655> sou curioso, é diferente. XD
[21:45] <Guest72655> Mas essas coisas me perseguem, sempre aparece uma situação dessas complicadas pra mim.
[21:46] <hggdh> Guest72655: este Linux pode estar provendo serviços de AD para (provável) domínio
[21:46] <mirqui> curioso é uma coisa , saber de autentificações é outra ;)
[21:48] <Guest72655> hggdh: sim, é isso mas queria saber mais o por que. É custo ? É mais barato.. Mais fácil ? Mais seguro ?
[21:49] <hggdh> como não sei o que esta implementado, não posso responder. Mas uma possível razão é que o servidor Windows não foi configurado para ser um AD controller (custo)
[21:50] <Guest72655> hggdh: hummm algo me dizia que era mais por esse lado...
[21:51] <Guest72655> hggdh: trabalha com isso, é tua área ?
[21:53] <hggdh> não. Mas já fui MSCE
[21:53] <Leo_> oi galera
[21:54] <Leo_> como proceder na primeira carga de um note
[21:54] <Leo_> tem que colocar 12 horas
[21:54] <hggdh> Leo_: carga do que?
[21:54] <Leo_> da bateria
[21:55] <hggdh> ...
[21:55] <hggdh> Leo_: até o sistema avisar que ela está carregada
[21:56] <hggdh> Leo_: normalemnte, de uma a duas horas. YMMV
[21:56] <Leo_> então não é verdade que ela não pega carga se deixar pouco na primeira vez
[21:56] <Leo_> tipo quando compra
[21:56] <mirqui> tem um ícone em cima no ubuntu
[21:57] <hggdh> Leo_: era verdade para as baterias antigas. as modernas não sofrem tanto com memória de carga
[21:57] <mirqui> um quadrado com um mais e um raiosinho
[21:57] <mirqui> ali vc vê quando está carregando e está carregado
[21:58] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[21:59] <Guest72655> astroo: fala ae
[21:59] <astroo-> ola es novo aqui?
[22:00] <Guest72655> astroo: sim e com muitas perguntas e dúvidas . :T
[22:00] <astroo-> bem-vindo
[22:00] <Guest72655> astroo: valeu !
[22:01] <astroo-> para mudar nick faz /nick 1-que-seja-dificil-de-ter-dono
[22:01] <Guest72655> astroo: nessa estou sabendo. :)
[22:03] <Leo_> o ufw é só ufw enable que ja estou protegido ou tem que add regras pra proteger
[22:26] <Morita> hgghdh: e o que de bom acontece normalmente por aqui ?
[22:26] <Leo_> por q fica aparecendo o ip da gente aqui
[23:11] <wopgan> boa noite
[23:12] <jaqent> wopgan: boa noite
[23:12] <wopgan> =D
[23:12] <astroo-> ola
[23:16] <Mangusto> :D
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-locoteams
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[08:28] <svij> nhaines_: ping :D
[08:29] <svij> nhaines_: any news regarding the loco council nomination?
[09:32] <nhaines_> svij: nope! But we don't handle that. The Communty Council does.
[09:32] <svij> nhaines_: ah okay
[09:33] <svij> I didn't hear anything yet, that wondered me
[09:33] <nhaines_> Well, of course the CC is also being reelected too.
[09:34] <svij> yep
[09:34] * svij waits then
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.417844
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2015-11-22-#xubuntu-devel
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[12:10] <knome> !team | reminder: feature definition freeze is next thursday, let's try to get the blueprints ready before that
[15:07] <krytarik> slickymaster, knome: Done - https://code.launchpad.net/~krytarik/xubuntu-docs/contributor/+merge/278262
[15:12] <krytarik> knome: And please set my work item to 'DONE' too, when you merged it.
[15:12] <knome> krytarik, hmm, do we really want the itemizedlists inside paras?
[15:13] <knome> we're not doing that anywhere
[15:13] <krytarik> Yes!
[15:13] <knome> why?
[15:13] <krytarik> Wait.
[15:13] <knome> yes.
[15:14] <knome> only one place too
[15:15] <krytarik> Where do you see that? I know I fixed some on the QA Team page.
[15:16] <krytarik> I was more thinking the other way around, where I added more than one once. :P
[15:16] <knome> line 893 of the diff
[15:18] <krytarik> Ah yes, that's because it doesn't like that in an 'abstract'.
[15:18] <knome> aha...
[15:18] <krytarik> Didn't validate.
[15:18] <knome> hrm.
[15:18] <knome> i wonder how the html output looks
[15:18] <krytarik> The same really.
[15:19] <krytarik> Just like the 'note' one.
[15:19] <knome> eghh
[15:19] <knome> we really should try to see other options than abstract for the introduction
[15:19] <knome> it isn't even semantic
[15:19] <krytarik> And it doesn't like sections without any elements other than the title either. :P
[15:20] <knome> yeah
[15:20] <krytarik> So I had "<para></para>" at one place. :P
[15:20] <knome> yep
[15:21] <knome> what's the idea with the new index.html for startpage?
[15:21] <krytarik> 'sed' basically, rather than put together.
[15:21] <knome> ok
[15:22] <knome> i know it's valid, but i don't particularly like this syntax: + padding: 3em 3em 1em;
[15:23] <knome> also, we should just use the same stylesheet for the startpage
[15:23] <knome> but that can wait
[15:23] <krytarik> Yeah, we should.
[15:25] <krytarik> Ah, you mean rather specify them all - yeah, I can agree there.
[15:25] <knome> yep
[15:26] <krytarik> Particularly when you're already up to 3 anyway. :P
[15:26] <knome> yep
[15:26] <knome> 2 is ok
[15:26] <krytarik> Yeah.
[15:26] <knome> 3 is the one that is meh :P
[15:26] <krytarik> So go fix that. :P
[15:27] <knome> hahahahaha!
[15:27] <knome> :X
[15:27] <krytarik> lol
[15:28] <krytarik> I usually just put there as much as is necessary, that is.
[15:29] <knome> heh
[15:30] <knome> so, on relativity...
[15:30] <knome> we will need one link for startpage :P
[15:30] <knome> well actually not
[15:30] <knome> if we don't care how the startpage looks before building
[15:31] <krytarik> Huh? :D
[15:31] <knome> nvm
[15:35] <flocculant> hi knome krytarik
[15:35] <krytarik> Hi flocculant.
[15:36] <knome> hello flocculant
[15:55] <knome> krytarik, and i'm wondering about the makefile targets too
[15:56] <knome> and my brain hurts
[15:56] <krytarik> Yeah, Makefile stuff does that to one... :D
[16:02] <knome> epub sigh
[16:04] <krytarik> Yeah, at least they kind of "work" now again. :P
[16:04] <knome> what is "-cp ..." ?
[16:04] <krytarik> They look horrible though, that is. :D
[16:04] <krytarik> Ignore errors.
[16:04] <knome> ok
[16:10] <knome> ok, i think i fixed it
[16:20] <SwissBot> feed xubuntu-docs had 13 updates, showing the latest 3
[17:46] <Unit193> Well -cp means you don't echo it.
[17:56] <krytarik> Unit193: Nope, that's '@'.
[18:14] <krytarik> knome: This is what I have right now on top of your current branch, however - barring the needed style fixes for the startpage mentioned in -offtopic: http://paste.openstack.org/show/CC7IP1SJM4guDL4v1yzp/
[18:15] <krytarik> I trust it's easy for you to fix those. :)
[18:18] <Unit193> Oooooh, right!
[18:28] <krytarik> knome: If you'd just refer to my review in the commit log, that'd be nice - so I don't have to comment. :D
[18:37] <krytarik> (Which would just be a link to the diff paste anyway.)
[19:22] <knome> krytarik, i changed the filename because i wanted to highlight that it's the startpage specific stuff
[19:28] <krytarik> knome: Yeah, it's easier to distinguish in the index file anyway.
[20:54] <krytarik> knome: Oh crap, it should be "html-style: ../common-libs" in 'user-docs/Makefile' - I seem to have not saved that before doing the diff. >_<
[21:02] <krytarik> + too
[21:03] <knome> ahahahaha
[21:03] <krytarik> lol
[21:03] <krytarik> It's the little things, you know! :P
[21:06] <krytarik> You don't need a new diff though, right? :D
[21:07] <pleia2> knome: no pictures yet (see ticket) but a draft of the next xubuntu at post is up if you want to proof https://xubuntu.org/?p=3597&preview=true
[21:08] <knome> pleia2, i'll look at it later today
[21:08] <pleia2> knome: thanks :)
[22:20] <knome> pleia2, "Also, we understand the positive aspects of giving the user access to modify as it can lead to a better function and understanding of the software."
[22:20] <knome> pleia2, modify what?
[22:21] <knome> pleia2, "First of all we believed that this platform better suited the needs of our organization."
[22:21] <knome> pleia2, better than what? or "best" ?
[22:22] <knome> pleia2, "Is there anything else you wish to share with us about FreeGeek Chicago or how you use Xubuntu?"
[22:22] <knome> pleia2, maybe we should drop the "or how you use Xubuntu?" since they don't mention it again
[22:23] <knome> pleia2, apart from that, i did some very minor edits (remove a comma, "open-source" -> "open source", "FireFox" -> "Firefox")
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-nl
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[17:01] <kevin9250> hey iedereen , ik heb net ubuntu geinstalleerd maar ik wil graag mijn harde schijf nu partities indelen, ubuntu heeft van alles 1 grote schijf gemaakt .hoe doe ik dat?
[17:02] <SCHAAP137> is handiger om dat vantevoren te doen, tijdens de installatie
[17:03] <SCHAAP137> je kunt gparted gebruiken, maar niet op je actieve systeemschijf volgens mij
[17:04] <SCHAAP137> als gparted op die installatiedisk aanwezig is @ live omgeving, kun je 'm daarvandaan aanpassen
[17:06] <JanC> GParted staat normaal wel op de installatiedisk vziw, en anders kan je die gewoon installeren op de live-CD
[17:07] <JanC> installeren in de live-sessie, bedoel ik, niet op de CD
[17:07] <JanC> alternatief kan je de GParted live-images gebruiken
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.436316
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[12:45] <tony_smlr> SMLR is live - Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEK2RyrpExA
[13:01] <Scary_Guy> Don't know what that is, but when I tried loading it in Firefox it crashed. Tried again and it just froze
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.438402
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-pt
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[04:36] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:58] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.438897
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2015-11-22-#ubuntu-us-tn
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[00:03] <Unit193> Also, it might be that sanity thing.
[00:03] <Unit193> I have none.
[00:09] <minasota> nice to know I'm in good company
[00:15] <Unit193> Turns out it was handy I was running my own tracker too, considering otherwise I was using demonii as a secondary and it's now gone.
[15:48] <minasota> I tried to register with freenom. It's blocked my ip unitl Dec
[18:04] <minasota> Unit193: I went with namecheap. Thanks for the reference
[18:18] <Unit193> Sure, glad it helped.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.440215
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-ir
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[11:21] <Mohammad> salam
[14:56] <dashkalam> سلام
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.442785
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-ca
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[11:16] <Fre3Bear> And hello
[13:04] <azend|vps> Fre3Bear: hi
[13:05] <Fre3Bear> Hey azend
[13:15] <azend|vps> Fre3Bear: your nick reminds me of wikibear
[13:15] <azend|vps> hehe wikibear
[13:16] <Fre3Bear> Lol oh really? Don't know what you're talking about.
[13:17] <azend|vps> Fre3Bear: http://mashable.com/2014/02/20/wikibear
[13:17] <azend|vps> http://teamcoco.com/category/tags/wikibear
[13:19] <Fre3Bear> I am afraid.
[13:20] <azend|vps> the conan videos are what makes it funny
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:26.444138
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2015-11-12-#ubuntu-se
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[06:28] <recharge> morrn på er
[06:35] <Sp00kan> God morgon.
[06:42] <recharge> frukost!
[06:42] <Sp00kan> Ostmacka!? ;)
[06:46] <recharge> japp, två stycken :)
[06:46] <Spookan> Min frukost består av en eller två koppar kaffe. ;)
[06:47] <recharge> okej
[06:47] <recharge> Vad använder du för sort?
[06:52] <Spookan> Just nu Gevalia, annars bara det billigaste, är ingen finsmakare så..
[07:04] <recharge> Jag använder Gevalia snabbkaffe till mina kaffedrickande gäster. Själv tar jag te när de tar kaffe. Men godast är nog varm choklad ute i skogen en höstdag.
[07:05] <Spookan> Med lite renat i? :P
[07:05] <recharge> nä
[07:07] <recharge> Jag förstår inte folk som hela tiden ska ha i sig alkohol, visst kan jag ta och dricka lite socialt, men det blir typ två sexpack om året.
[07:09] <recharge> anyway
[07:09] <recharge> vad kör du för distro Spookan?
[07:10] <Spookan> recharge: Mjo, jag går lite perioder, just nu är jag trött på alkohol.. Jag kör Mac OS "El Capitan"
[07:15] <Spookan> recharge: Själv då?
[07:16] <recharge> trusty thar
[07:16] <Spookan> Aldrig hört talas om.
[07:16] <recharge> Spookan: ubuntu 14.04 lts
[07:17] <Spookan> Jag kör ju iofs en distro på min PC server. Linux Mint.
[07:17] <Spookan> Ah ok, är inte den gammal nu?
[07:19] <recharge> det är en lts, Spookan. Kanske lite gammal för vissa, men håller i längden. I början ville jag ha den senaste hela tiden, men jag tycker det är bättre med en lts-version. Tror supporten går ut typ 2019, så...
[07:20] <recharge> Spookan: Det är ju faktiskt den senaste lts:en :)
[07:21] <Spookan> recharge: Jo iofs, så jag hänger mest här för det sköna folket, men jag är väldigt "anti Windows" av mig hehe.
[07:33] <recharge> Okej. Spookan har du provat win 10? Jag har bara hört talas om den. På ett sätt är det bra att det finns ett windows alternativ, som exempelvis apple eller linux :)
[07:42] <Spookan> recharge: Mjo kul för dem, men jag själv är så trött på "Windows", MS som företag har jag väl inget att säga om så. Nä har inte testat Win10, funderat på att ta hem en iso från MS och testa med Virtual Box, men inte blivit av hehe.
[07:43] <recharge> :)
[07:44] <recharge> Spookan: Ja, det är rätt skönt slippa start-knappen, så att säga.
[07:45] <recharge> Kan lägga till det att om inte Unity hade dykt upp i 11.04 hade jag haft ännu svårare för att förstå hur ubuntu fungerar.
[07:45] <Spookan> Har en skitgammal laptop här som jag skulle ge bort, testade att lägga in Win7 och skulle banta det, men segare än sirap, så funderar på att testa "Dam Small Linux" istället.
[07:45] <Spookan> Hehe
[08:23] <Hund> Spookan: Vad är det för spec på den?
[08:25] <Spookan> Hund: Vettefan, vet att det är 1gb i ram på den, men ska testa dsl på den, får väl ha den som en skrivmaskin om inget annat..
[08:26] <Hund> 1GB RAM är ju mer än tilläckligt för det mesta.
[08:26] <Hund> Man behöver rätt distro bara.
[08:26] <Hund> Och rätt program. :P
[08:27] <Spookan> Mjo hehe.
[10:32] <huttan> Nästa ubuntu som släpps är lts version va ?? 16.04 ?
[10:33] <recharge> huttan: jag tror det, ja
[10:33] <huttan> recharge: najs
[10:36] <Amoz> Ubuntu X, 16.04 LTS
[10:36] <Amoz> gona b gud
[10:36] <huttan> lsb_release -r
[10:36] <huttan> oj
[10:36] <Hund> Dom har Unity. Hur kan det vara bra? ;P
[10:37] <huttan> Amoz: ja det kommer det. Du är säker på att det är lts ?
[10:37] <huttan> Hund: Ja unity är riktig skit
[10:38] <Amoz> huttan, Canonical släpper LTS vartannat år. Alla jämna år på våren (8.04,10.04,12.04,14.04,16.04,18.04)
[10:38] <huttan> Amoz: tackar =)
[10:39] <Amoz> och för er som ännu inte sett mönstret så är alla ubuntu-versioner bestämda utifrån vilket år och månad de släpps. 2008+04 = 8.04, 2014+april = 14.04
[10:40] <Amoz> någon som vill ha en oneplus2 invite?
[10:40] <Hund> Varför skulle man vilja ha en sådan telefon?
[10:41] <Hund> < Grumpy Hund :D
[10:41] <Amoz> ok, I'll bite, "sådan" ?
[10:41] <Hund> haha
[10:41] <Amoz> goopen, ^
[10:41] <Hund> Närå, men jag har hört att deras kundservice lämnat lite att önska.
[10:42] <Amoz> Hund, indeed
[10:42] <Amoz> Men det är väl som med alla saker, man får vad man betalar för typ
[10:42] <Hund> Ja och nej.
[10:42] <Amoz> i detta fallet bedömde jag risken som väldigt låg att jag kommer få något problem med luren. Så jag typ "chansade"
[10:42] <Hund> Okej. :)
[10:42] <Amoz> om jag nu får problem med luren så kommer jag säkert få räkna med en månads hanteringstid eller nåt
[10:43] <Amoz> men mängden hårdvara man får för 4k är hittills oslagbart i mina ögon
[10:43] <Hund> Kostar den såpass? Jag hade för mig att den var billigare.
[10:43] <Amoz> Hund, 64GB + frakt
[10:43] <Hund> Jag betalade 4000 kr för min Nexus 5X. :)
[10:43] <Hund> Ah
[10:43] <Hund> Det har inte jag. :D haha
[10:44] <Amoz> lilla 16G utan frakt kostar 3299kr ellr nåt
[10:44] <Hund> Ah
[10:44] <Hund> Det var typ det priset jag hade i huvudet.
[10:44] <Amoz> men jag lovade mig själv att aldrig köra en 16GB igen efter att jag suttit med min nexus4 i 2 år nu
[10:44] <Hund> Jaså? :D
[10:44] <Amoz> man får plats med så himla lite musik när alla appar + systemet är inne
[10:44] <Hund> Jag har problem med att fylla 16GB. :P
[10:45] <Amoz> yeah om man inte använder sin lur som mp3 så är 16GB mer än tillräckligt
[10:45] <Amoz> då har man ju typ 10GB för appar + cache osv
[10:45] <Hund> Jag lyssnar bara på podcasts. :)
[10:45] <Amoz> smidigt
[10:45] <Amoz> då brukar man ju rensa efter hand å bara ha några st. liggandes åt gången typ
[10:45] <Amoz> jag kör både pods + musiksamling
[10:45] <Hund> Precis.
[10:45] <Hund> Fast
[10:45] <Hund> Jag hade 32GB på min Note 4.
[10:46] <Hund> Där hade jag problem med utrymmet..
[10:46] <Amoz> yeah
[10:46] <Hund> Snacka om vidrigt fet rom.
[10:46] <Hund> Och då pratar vi inte om fet i en positiv bemärkelse. :P
[10:46] <Amoz> sen får du räkna med att fetare hårdvara + kamera å sånt ger mycket högre krav på lagringen
[10:47] <Amoz> 10 minut film med denna kameran ger mig typ filmfiler på >1GB uppskattningsvis
[10:47] <Hund> Jag fotar väldigt lite. Men absolut, bilderna var större.
[10:47] <Hund> Men problemet var främst romen.
[10:47] <Hund> En backup låg väl på typ 8GB.
[10:47] <Amoz> sen bjuder ju oneplus på en hel del utrymme extra för väldigt lite pengar extra
[10:48] <Hund> Mjo. :)
[10:48] <Amoz> det va inte så mycket snack om saken när deras 16GB (som jag vet kommer bli trångt som fan) kostar 3300kr, å 500kr extra löser det problemet för hela denna lurens användningstid
[10:49] <Hund> :D
[10:49] <Amoz> nu kan jag lassa in hela musiksamlingen, + massa fler podcasts, filma å fota obegränsat, å aldrig behöva fundera över utrummet
[10:49] <Amoz> dessutom, om man kör cyanogenmod så tar ju en enda backup 2GB lagring eller nåt med
[10:50] <Amoz> det va också problem på nexusen när man ville försäkra sig om att ha nåt att falla tillbaka på vid uppgraderingar
[15:04] <Barre> hmm. är webben fortfarande nere?
[15:16] <andol> Barre: Jupp
[15:21] <Barre> andol: jahopp...
[15:24] <andol> Barre: Gissar/hoppas att JohanE vet mer.
[17:58] <Hund> Hur går det då? :P
[23:24] <maxjezy> Någon som kör testat hulu i sverige?
[23:24] <maxjezy> är det lätt att komma igång med svenska kreditkort?
[23:25] <maxjezy> jag har hola i min webbläsare så det borde fungera men funkar våra kreditkort?
[23:35] <maxjezy> det gjorde det icke
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