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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-ru
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[03:15] <andrex> шмутра
[03:17] <buriedalive> привет!
[04:06] <UNIm95> Кому утра а кому еще и не ложился.
[04:06] <UNIm95> Черт. Забыл про запятые
[08:03] <Leagnus> https://xakep.ru/2015/11/09/linux-encoder-1/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+xakep%2Fall+%28%C2%AB%D0%A5%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%80%C2%BB%29
[10:37] <tagezi> утра
[10:50] <artemz> привет
[16:24] <ghoslty_talamaur> hi everyone!
[16:26] <ghoslty_talamaur> может кто подскажет, как в xfce (xubuntu 15.10) сделать подхват qt-шными прогами значков, выставленных в настройках xfce?
[16:26] <ghoslty_talamaur> X
[16:27] <ghoslty_talamaur> уже пробовал: gconftool-2 --set --type string '/desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme' "$ICON_THEME"
[16:28] <ghoslty_talamaur> если сделать в терминале export DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome и запустить клементинку, то тема подхватывается
[16:29] <buriedalive> я хз
[16:29] <buriedalive> но я вот попробовал гуглить
[16:29] <buriedalive> и первый же ответ
[16:29] <buriedalive> http://ubuntovod.ru/interface/qt-apps-xubuntu.html
[16:29] <buriedalive> об этом речь?
[16:30] <ghoslty_talamaur> уже делал так, не работает все равно
[16:32] <buriedalive> xfce поди что перезайти надо в новую сессию
[16:32] <buriedalive> http://myubuntu.ru/faq/kak-zastavit-qt-prilozheniya-vyglyadet-luchshe-v-xubuntu-xfce
[16:32] <buriedalive> тут чо
[16:32] <buriedalive> тоже самое
[16:33] <ghoslty_talamaur> не помогает, более того, добавил в /etc/X11/Xsession.d вот такое
[16:33] <ghoslty_talamaur> http://pastebin.com/XDMC0Xyu
[16:33] <ghoslty_talamaur> тема без проблем применяется через qtconfig, а вот значки не хотят
[16:38] <buriedalive> что-то видимо надо установить, только что ...
[16:40] <buriedalive> или вот, баг какой-то даже
[16:40] <buriedalive> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1451993
[16:40] <ghoslty_talamaur> по рецептам находил, что нужно поставить libgnomeui, но тоже не работает :) такое чувство, что баг
[16:40] <buriedalive> свежий баг
[16:40] <buriedalive> а не то
[16:40] <buriedalive> там кеды
[16:41] <buriedalive> снизу там линк
[16:41] <buriedalive> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11643
[16:42] <buriedalive> вроде есть решение
[16:42] <buriedalive> разберётесь
[17:08] <Ghostly_Talamaur> ping
[17:08] <ubuntuhelp> Ghostly_Talamaur, Понг понг понг...
[17:09] <Ghostly_Talamaur> отписываюсь, решение https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11643 не помогло
[17:09] <Ghostly_Talamaur> Видимо придется ждать, когда пофиксят
[17:10] <buriedalive> там вроде что-то про обновить говорили, ppa даже указан
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-cat
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[04:33] <dupingping> hi david
[04:33] <dupingping> are you dpm?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-09-#launchpad-dev
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[11:30] <cjwatson> lifeless: hi, would it be possible for there to be a new testtools release soonish? I'd like to disentangle some more of the bits of yak-shaving related to new Twisted
[18:41] <lifeless> cjwatson: I thought I had; certainly I can
[19:01] <cjwatson> That would be lovely, thanks
[20:03] <blr> morning
[20:04] <blr> cjwatson: will that put us within reach of moving turnip to py3?
[21:24] <cjwatson> blr: Maybe, I'm not sure. Not my current itch :-)
[21:27] <cjwatson> twisted.web.xmlrpc was ported in Twisted 15.3.0, which IIRC was one of the major blockers, and that is blocked by testtools at the moment.
[21:27] <cjwatson> So it would certainly bring us closer. But my direct motivation is the SSH protocol work.
[21:30] <wgrant> Conch still remains, doesn't it?
[21:30] <wgrant> I haven't checked in a while.
[21:30] <wgrant> Also, morning.
[21:31] <cjwatson> True, I think twisted.conch probably requires porting.
[21:32] <cjwatson> https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/search?q=conch+python+3&noquickjump=1&ticket=on has a few.
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-il
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[10:01] <Darkyyy> בוקר טוב
[10:40] <Darkyyy> מה קורה נסהנסה
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-it
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[00:00] <cristian_c> robertogi: ma magari non c'è un processo con quel nome
[00:02] <Guest27970> ok, ci siamo quasi!! cancello il disco e installo lubuntu?
[00:02] <cristian_c> robertogi: se vai nel task manager, dovresti trovare un processo apt
[00:03] <cristian_c> robertogi: stoppa quello e poi vedi se riesci a chiudere il software center
[00:03] <cristian_c> Guest27970: se non hai nulla di tuo interesse su quell'hard disk, sì
[00:03] <Guest27970> e "usa lvm" lo spunto?
[00:04] <Guest27970> non ho idea di cosa sia
[00:04] <cristian_c> Guest27970: ti serve?
[00:04] <Guest27970> a cosa serve?
[00:04] <cristian_c> Guest27970: se non ti serve, non lo spuntare
[00:04] <cristian_c> molto semplicemente
[00:06] <cristian_c> Guest27970: da ora in poi, per piacere, segui attentamente la guida all'installazione presente sul wiki
[00:06] <Guest27970> ok,scusate
[00:08] <robertogi> il soft center lo posso chiudere normalmente, solo che quando lo riapro è sempre bloccato sullo stesso caricamento
[00:09] <cristian_c> robertogi: allora killa apt
[00:09] <robertogi> per cui non posso ricaricare più niente, volevo provare a caricare open office con il quale mi trovo benissimo da anni per cercare di scaricare i files per domani
[00:10] <cristian_c> robertogi: allora
[00:10] <cristian_c> robertogi: anche sw tu scaricassi openoffice
[00:10] <cristian_c> dovresti sempre imstallare i relativi deb
[00:10] <cristian_c> utilizzando quindi apt
[00:11] <cristian_c> robertogi: ma fai una cosa molto più semplice e meno problematica
[00:11] <cristian_c> robertogi: prendi la live
[00:11] <cristian_c> quella che hai già, ovviamente
[00:12] <cristian_c> robertogi: e ci scarichi i file con libreoffice
[00:12] <cristian_c> direttamente da quella
[00:12] <cristian_c> e tanti saluti
[00:12] <robertogi> in pratica che operazioni devo fare?
[00:13] <cristian_c> robertogi: ce l'hai il supporto?
[00:13] <cristian_c> col quale hai installato
[00:13] <robertogi> il CD iso di ubuntu?
[00:13] <cristian_c> robertogi: il cd di ubuntu
[00:14] <cristian_c> robertogi: avvii la modalità live
[00:14] <cristian_c> che dovrebb avere libreoffice preinstallato
[00:14] <robertogi> in pratica passo sopra a tutto
[00:14] <cristian_c> e se non lo è, lo installi (va ad installarsi nella ram)
[00:14] <cristian_c> robertogi: sì
[00:14] <cristian_c> e così ti togli il pensiero
[00:15] <robertogi> ok, i files dentro le cartelle li apre?
[00:15] <cristian_c> robertogi: poi apri libreoffice e ci lavori
[00:15] <cristian_c> fine del discorso.
[00:15] <cristian_c> robertogi: ovvio
[00:15] <cristian_c> robertogi: da live sei praticamente l'utente root
[00:16] <cristian_c> robertogi: ma quando copi i file su memorie esterne, tipo chiavette
[00:16] <robertogi> OK, ci provo, poi vado a dormire altrimenti oltre al lavoro non vedono neanche me :)
[00:16] <cristian_c> i permessi delle copie su chiavette, hanno i classici permessi
[00:17] <robertogi> cio, buonanotte e grazie della collaborazione
[00:17] <cristian_c> che ti permettono di aprirli dovunque
[00:17] <cristian_c> robertogi: di niente
[07:43] <Parmariu> Aiuto non riesco piu a far funzionare ubuntu
[10:14] <apiera> Buongiorno, quando ho riavviato mysql (ho cancellato dei database creati da un programma con l'utente root) mi da il seguente erroorealessandro@alessandro-VirtualBox:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[10:14] <apiera> * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld [ OK ]
[10:14] <apiera> * Starting MySQL database server mysqld [ OK ]
[10:14] <apiera> * Checking for tables which need an upgrade, are corrupt or were
[10:14] <apiera> not closed cleanly.
[10:16] <andrearossi> buongiorno, ho ubuntu 14.04 lts su una macchina virtuale (risorse assegnate processore dual core 4 giga di ram) quando riavvio mysql (ho cancellato dei database creati da un programma installato) mi da il seguente errore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13208051/
[10:18] <cristian_c> andrearossi: hai letto la documentazione di mysql?
[10:38] <andrearossi> si cristian
[10:39] <andrearossi> !mysql
[10:39] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server/MySql
[10:42] <andrearossi> * Checking for tables which need an upgrade, are corrupt or were
[10:42] <andrearossi> not closed cleanly. non comprendo
[11:41] <Konin> Quale sistema Ubuntu installare su PC portatile con AMD Turion64 Mobile ML-32 con 2GB di RAM e ATI Radeon Xpress 200M?
[11:41] <Konin> Grazie
[11:45] <cristian_c> Konin: prima di installare, io farei un giro in live
[11:46] <cristian_c> Konin: possibilmente con xubuntu e lubuntu
[11:47] <cristian_c> così vedi quale ti garba di più e quale si adatta megliomal tuo hardware
[11:47] <Konin> Ubuntu 15 risulterebbe pesante da gestire con le mie risorse?
[11:49] <Konin> ma x live cosa intendi?
[11:49] <cristian_c> un attimo
[11:51] <cristian_c> Konin: non è questione di numero di versione
[11:51] <Alo32> Buongiorno a tutti non riesco a installare gtk
[11:51] <cristian_c> Konin: ma di desktop che monta a bordo
[11:51] <ExPBoy> !gtk
[11:51] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'gtk'
[11:51] <ExPBoy> !info gtk
[11:51] <ubot-it> Package gtk does not exist in wily
[11:52] <Alo32> si scusa da codice sorgente scaricato
[11:52] <ExPBoy> Alo32, dove?
[11:52] <Alo32> gtk.org
[11:52] <cristian_c> Konin: https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_CD
[11:53] <ExPBoy> Alo32, se non è nei repo ufficiali non c'è supporto
[11:53] <cristian_c> Alo32: che devi fare?
[11:54] <Alo32> durante il make midice che nessun make è trovato
[11:54] <ExPBoy> eh
[11:54] <Alo32> ah ok grazie ExPBoy
[11:55] <Alo32> e si arresta la procedura
[11:55] <cristian_c> Alo32: ma se non spieghi che devi fare, non ti si può dare una risposta corretta
[11:56] <Alo32> devo installare gtk toolkit
[11:57] <cristian_c> Alo32: le librerie?
[11:57] <Alo32> e mi dice di scompattare il file...fatto!!...poi mi dice di dare ./configure...fatto!
[11:57] <Alo32> si le librerie
[11:58] <cristian_c> Alo32: e perché le scarichi dal sito?
[11:58] <Alo32> quando mi chiede di dare il make si arresta...
[11:58] <cristian_c> non vanno bene quelle dei repo?
[11:58] <Alo32> da dove le devo scaricare non so altro...
[11:58] <cristian_c> Alo32: dai classici repository di ubuntu no?
[11:59] <cristian_c> Alo32: come installi le applicazioni, allo stesso modo installi le librerie
[12:00] <Alo32> grazie cristian proverò a fare così al massimo ritorno ciao
[12:00] <cristian_c> Alo32: installa synaptic
[12:00] <cristian_c> !info synaptic
[12:00] <ubot-it> synaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.81.4build2 (wily), package size 1338 kB, installed size 6958 kB
[12:00] <cristian_c> Alo32: così trovi i pacchetti che ti servono più facilmente
[12:01] <Alo32> ok grazie
[12:05] <wiper> salve, ho bisogno di fare il downgrade da 15.10 a 15.04... qual è il metodo più semplice?
[12:05] <ExPBoy> reinstallare
[12:05] <ExPBoy> wiper, fai un salvataggio dei dati e installi 15.04
[12:06] <wiper> non ci sono comandi da terminale, quindi?
[12:06] <cristian_c> wiper: l'avanzamento va in un senso solo
[12:07] <cristian_c> wiper: hai la partizione home separata?
[12:07] <wiper> no, la home non è separata
[12:07] <wiper> posso usare l'opzione di installazione col mantenimento dei file da DVD?
[12:07] <cristian_c> wiper: allora, dovresti separarla
[12:08] <cristian_c> così i dati non vengono toccati da una nuova installazione
[12:08] <cristian_c> e per dati intendo quelli della tua home
[12:09] <wiper> va bene
[12:09] <cristian_c> !home
[12:09] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'home'
[12:09] <wiper> grazie mille
[12:10] <cristian_c> sta fretta
[12:10] <ExPBoy> :)
[13:32] <Parmariu> Dopo 15.10 non va fa solo riga di comando non grub
[13:32] <Carlin0> cosa vuol dire "dopo"
[13:34] <Parmariu> Ho aggiornato a 15.10
[13:34] <ExPBoy> senza provarlo?
[13:34] <Parmariu> No
[13:34] <Carlin0> hai fatto avanzamento di versione ?
[13:35] <Parmariu> Mi e apparso se volevo aggiornarlo con Canonical
[13:35] <Carlin0> !ripristino | Parmariu
[13:35] <ubot-it> Parmariu: Per ripristinare un sistema danneggiato: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Installazione/RipristinoInstallazione
[13:40] <Parmariu> Con rispristino mi da event not found
[13:41] <ExPBoy> Parmariu, ma hai letto la guida?
[13:43] <ExPBoy> eh
[13:46] <Juice2> Ciao a tutti
[13:48] <Parmariu> Si ma non ci ho capito molto ubuntu e' residente come unicoSO
[13:49] <Juice2> ho installato Cairo dock, pensavo fosse meno invasivo, ho deciso di rimuoverlo..
[13:50] <Parmariu> Inoltre
[13:50] <Juice2> quando ho riavviato il SO mi è riapparsa, nonostante aver disintallato tutto, mi è riapparsa la dock.
[13:51] <Juice2> ho provato a cancellare anche i pacchetti singoli, ma niente , sono sempre li.
[13:51] <Juice2> come faccio?
[13:52] <Parmariu> Inoltre mi da' -bash
[13:56] <Parmariu> E ancora mi da' -bash event not found
[14:02] <Parmariu> Ripeto ho molta difficoltà nel chattare da telefonino e se qualcuno mi può aiutare e' ben accetto
[14:10] <sbasso> Parmariu: non ho il tuo problema nella history
[14:10] <sbasso> riesci a riscriverlo o a ricopiarlo?
[14:13] <Parmariu> Mi compare alla fine /var/lib/dpkg/status - openDNS 2: no such file or directory)
[14:14] <sbasso> Parmariu: alla fine di cosa?
[14:15] <Parmariu> Questo dopo comando update
[14:16] <sbasso> dopo apt-get update?
[14:17] <Parmariu> Sbasso scusami certo dopo sudo apt-get update
[14:17] <sbasso> ma lo hai eliminato?
[14:17] <Parmariu> Cosa?
[14:18] <Parmariu> Ubuntu?
[14:18] <sbasso> questo file -> /var/lib/dpkg/status
[14:19] <Parmariu> Con che comando scusami o l'ho fatto per sbaglio?
[14:20] <sbasso> tipo "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/status"
[14:21] <Parmariu> No ma centra?
[14:21] <sbasso> se lo hai eliminato si, centra
[14:22] <Parmariu> E quindi si può ricaricare?
[14:23] <sbasso> mi fai un dpaste di "ls /var/lib/dpkg/"
[14:25] <Parmariu> Mi dice dpaste command not found
[14:28] <sbasso> !dpaste
[14:28] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'dpaste'
[14:28] <sbasso> !paste
[14:28] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[14:29] <Parmariu> E mi dice mpaste paste o gpaste
[14:30] <Parmariu> Devo usare paste?
[14:31] <sbasso> Parmariu: devi andare su http://paste.ubuntu.com/ e incollare quello che ti da come output "ls /var/lib/dpkg/"
[14:33] <Parmariu> Scusami se io vado da telefonino su http paste ecc... Come incollo su portatile quello che vien fuori?
[14:35] <Parmariu> Sbasso grazie posso trascriverlo pero' vado?
[14:35] <sbasso> vai
[14:37] <sbasso> poi quando hai cliccato sul bottone paste! copia qui la url che ti genera
[14:37] <sbasso> ah ma sei da telefonino? aspetta allora... ci metti una vita
[14:41] <Parmariu> Sbasso mi da esattamente quello che ho scritto
[14:46] <Parmariu> Krabador mi puoi aiutare?
[14:51] <Parmariu> Pampero hai voglia di aiutarmi?
[14:52] <Carlin0> !tizio | Parmariu
[14:52] <ubot-it> Parmariu: non porre le tue domande a qualcuno in particolare, rivolgiti al canale. Non usare forme del tipo "Tizio, mi sai dire.."/"Tizio, posso?"
[14:54] <Parmariu> Si scusate ma non ricevo risposte ed ho difficoltà da telefonino
[14:55] <Carlin0> non è vero Parmariu è una settimana che ti si danno risposte , se poi tu non le segui è un altra cosa
[14:57] <Parmariu> Scusate non sono pratico sia nel chattare che nell'usare il computer
[16:19] <marco_2015> ciao a tutti avrei bisogno di sapere se con una pennetta usb con spazio libero 3.72Gb posso creare il live per l'installazione
[16:20] <marco_2015> scusate con ubuntu 15.04 64bit
[16:20] <Carlin0> marco_2015, sappi che creando la live formatti quindi salva prima i dati presenti
[16:21] <marco_2015> si l'ho già fatto solo che ho paura dello spazio
[16:21] <Carlin0> lo spazio basta e avanza
[16:21] <krabador> marco_2015, possono bastare anche 2 gb
[16:21] <krabador> mapreri, se formatti la pendrive è meglio
[16:21] <krabador> !usbwin | marco_2015
[16:21] <ubot-it> marco_2015: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[16:21] <Carlin0> fat32
[16:22] <marco_2015> Grazie mille a tutti
[16:22] <krabador> marco_2015, spetta
[16:22] <krabador> non 15.04
[16:22] <krabador> ma 15.10
[16:22] <krabador> la 15.04 va fuori supporto tra poco
[16:23] <krabador> altrimenti devi usare 14.04.3 che attualmente è l'ultima long term support, 5 anni
[16:23] <marco_2015> si si mi sono sbagliato dal sito fa scaricare solo 15.10
[16:23] <krabador> fino ad aprile , in cui ci sarà la prossima
[16:23] <krabador> 16.04
[16:23] <krabador> marco_2015, bene
[16:26] <giovanni> salve ho un problema per avere la connessione wifi tramite dispositivo tp-link mod tl-wn725n
[16:27] <krabador> giovanni, spiegati
[16:28] <giovanni> io sono nuovo nel mondo ubuntu io ho un pennino usb tp-link e non riesco ad istallarlo
[16:29] <Carlin0> giovanni, hai provato a collegarlo ?
[16:30] <krabador> giovanni, attaccalo al pc, apri il terminale, se il pc è comunque connesso ad internet, tramite cavo o altro, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:30] <krabador> sudo lsusb | pastebinit
[16:31] <Drugo> Ciao a tutti, ho un problema con ubuntu mate 15, ho scaricato e messo su pen drive kubuntu per volerlo provare ma quando da boot faccio partire l OS da usb non va e mi carica Mate, c'è qualcosa da attivare per far partire le pennette dal boot?
[16:32] <krabador> beh, non è un problema con ubuntu mate, se non parte la pendrive nel pc, come l'hai fatta la pendrive?
[16:32] <Drugo> sia con unetboot che creazione di dischi
[16:33] <Drugo> la cosa strana prima avevo windows 7 e elementary os, ieri ho deciso di avere solo un os è ho messo elementary, quando avevo il dual boot partiva sempre tutto tranquillamente
[16:33] <krabador> Drugo, creatore dischi purtroppo non va
[16:34] <Carlin0> Drugo, hai selezionato il boot dal bios vero ?
[16:34] <Drugo> e ma neanche unetbootin che ho sempre usato anche su altri os
[16:34] <krabador> Drugo, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:34] <krabador> Drugo, lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[16:34] <Drugo> a che serve quel comando?
[16:34] <krabador> installa pastebinit, che fa in automatico i pastebin dei comandi da terminale
[16:34] <Drugo> ok
[16:35] <krabador> in modo da vedere , se incolli il link successivo, il risultato di lsb_release -a
[16:35] <Drugo> ok grazie mille
[16:35] <Drugo> comunque potrebbe essere perche durante l installazione di Mate ho messo la password all hd?
[16:35] <krabador> Drugo, incolla qui il link risultante del secondo
[16:36] <krabador> Drugo, il fatto che non parta una usb, non c'entra niente con i sistemi installati nel pc
[16:36] <Drugo> No LSB modules are available.
[16:36] <Drugo> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:36] <Drugo> Description: Ubuntu 15.10
[16:36] <Drugo> Release: 15.10
[16:36] <Drugo> Codename: wily
[16:36] <krabador> a meno che non hai fatto male la pendrive, bios non abbia delle impostazioni particolari per rilevare le pendrive, o non abbia impostato bene il boot
[16:36] <krabador> neanche "link " sanno che cazzo significa
[16:36] <krabador> Carlin0, fai qualcosa,.
[16:37] <Drugo2> raga scusatemi ma si era disconnesso
[16:37] <krabador> no, sei stati disconnesso
[16:38] <Drugo2> ah no?
[16:38] <krabador> non si possono incollare troppe linee in canale
[16:38] <krabador> il bot manda fuori
[16:38] <Drugo2> cosa era successo? comunque non ho letto risposte (se ci sono state)
[16:38] <giovanni> fatto ma non mi riconosce il dispositivo usb
[16:38] <krabador> giovanni, devi mandare qui il link del secondo comando
[16:38] <Drugo2> capito, sai se c'è una soluzione? pero strano perche da pc la legge perfettamente
[16:39] <krabador> Drugo2, incolla il link
[16:39] <Drugo2> No LSB modules are available.
[16:39] <Drugo2> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:39] <Drugo2> Description: Ubuntu 15.10
[16:39] <Drugo2> Release: 15.10
[16:39] <Drugo2> Codename: wily
[16:39] <giovanni> quale secondo comando
[16:39] <krabador> giovanni, <krabador> sudo lsusb | pastebinit
[16:39] <krabador> delle 17:30
[16:40] <giovanni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209525/
[16:42] <krabador> giovanni, stacca , riattacca , dmesg | less | pastebinit
[16:42] <giovanni> per il momento e collegato con il router del cellulare
[16:43] <giovanni> e che cosa e
[16:43] <giovanni> scusa l'ignoranza
[16:43] <krabador> giovanni, manda quel comando
[16:43] <krabador> dopo aver staccato e riattaccato
[16:44] <giovanni> fatto
[16:45] <giovanni> 0 aggiornati, 0 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 0 non aggiornati.
[16:46] <Carlin0> che comando hai dato giovanni ?
[16:47] <Carlin0> [17:42:02] <krabador> giovanni, stacca , riattacca , dmesg | less | pastebinit
[16:48] <giovanni> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:49] <krabador> giovanni, segui, per favore, per questo non ci vuole esperiena
[16:51] <giovanni> ho messo la scheda del dispositivo che non mi riconosce affatto
[16:52] <krabador> giovanni, e 3
giovanni, stacca , riattacca , dmesg | less | pastebinit
[16:53] <giovanni> lo gia fatto non succede nulla
[16:53] <krabador> giovanni, niente link?
[16:54] <giovanni> http://www.tp-link.com/en/download/TL-WN725N.html
[16:58] <krabador> giovanni, allora, stacca la chiavetta, riattacca, digita dmesg, premi invio
[16:58] <krabador> !pastebin | giovanni
[16:58] <ubot-it> giovanni: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[16:58] <krabador> fa come dice ubot-it
[17:00] <Guest43929> ciao
[17:01] <Guest43929> ieri ho installato ubuntu ma è da ieri che non mi si apre ubuntu software center cosa devo fare?
[17:01] <krabador> Guest43929, apri terminale
[17:01] <krabador> Guest43929, sudo apt-get update
[17:01] <krabador> !pastebin | Guest43929
[17:01] <ubot-it> Guest43929: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[17:01] <krabador> segui questo con il risultato
[17:02] <giovanni> staccata e riattaccata ma non succede nulla
[17:03] <krabador> giovanni, per pietà
[17:03] <krabador> digita ed invia quel comando
[17:03] <krabador> e fa il pastebin
[17:03] <krabador> del risultato
[17:06] <Guest43929> non mi funziona ancora..
[17:06] <Guest43929> cosa devo fare?
[17:06] <krabador> Guest43929, devi fare il pastebin
[17:07] <giovanni> inviato
[17:07] <krabador> Guest43929, del risultato di quel comando
[17:07] <krabador> Guest43929,non è la soluzione
[17:07] <krabador> Guest43929, per fare assistenza servono informazioni
[17:07] <krabador> Guest43929, e questo comando serve a questo
[17:08] <Guest43929> cos'e il pastebin
[17:08] <Guest43929> il comando che mi hai detto di inserire nel terminale l'ho messo
[17:08] <krabador> Guest43929, rileggi bene i messaggi
[17:09] <krabador> se chiedi assistenza e non leggi, non ha senso.
[17:09] <giovanni> krabador letto il risultato ??
[17:09] <krabador> giovanni, devi incollare qui il link dopo la pressione di paste
[17:09] <krabador> altrimenti qui non arriva nulla
[17:10] <giovanni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209686/
[17:10] <krabador> giovanni, hai fatto il pastebin di tutti i comandi che non servono
[17:11] <krabador> giovanni, ti serve qualcuno che ti aiuti a leggere i messaggi che ti vengono rivolti?
[17:11] <alessandro76> salve, ho installato ubuntu 14.04 ma ho dei problemi con la tastiera. ho impostato tastiera italiano ma molti caratteri non, ad esempio i 2 punti non ci sono, la @ sta al posto delle virgolette, ecc. qualcuno mi sa aiutare
[17:11] <giovanni> allora iniziamo da capo 1 comando per volta
[17:11] <krabador> giovanni, no
[17:11] <krabador> ne serve uno solo
[17:12] <giovanni> rimandamelo e faccio copia e incolla
[17:12] <krabador> che è l'ultimo che ti è stato chiesto di mandare
[17:12] <krabador> giovanni, rileggi con calma
[17:12] <krabador> 3 volte ti è stato chiesto
[17:13] <krabador> alessandro76, il pc è connesso ad internet? quando hai installato, il pc era connesso?
[17:13] <alessandro76> si
[17:13] <alessandro76> non so con certezza
[17:14] <alessandro76> non lo ricordo, possiamo fare ugualmente qualcosa
[17:14] <krabador> alessandro76, va nelle impostazioni , metodo di imput
[17:14] <giovanni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209732/
[17:14] <Guest43929> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209722/
[17:15] <alessandro76> cosa vuol dire metodo di imput
[17:16] <krabador> alessandro76, hai aperto impostazioni?
[17:16] <alessandro76> si che devo fare ora
[17:16] <giovanni> spero di aver fatto la cosa giusta stavolta
[17:17] <krabador> alessandro76, metodo di imput
[17:17] <krabador> giovanni, sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[17:17] <krabador> giovanni, no
[17:17] <krabador> è per l'altro utente
[17:17] <krabador> Guest43929, sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[17:17] <alessandro76> cosa devo fare, non so cose imput
[17:17] <krabador> giovanni, stacca riattacca , dmesg | tail | pastebinit
[17:18] <krabador> alessandro76, guarda le figurine
[17:18] <krabador> una di quelle corrisponde
[17:18] <alessandro76> vado in tastiera o inserimento testo
[17:19] <Guest43929> mi dice che pastebinit non è presente mi dice di installarlo
[17:19] <krabador> Guest43929, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:19] <alessandro76> ok ci sono, ora cosa faccio
[17:19] <krabador> alessandro76, togli tutte le lingue che non sono italiano
[17:20] <krabador> Guest43929, sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[17:20] <alessandro76> fatto
[17:20] <krabador> alessandro76, riavvia
[17:21] <alessandro76> già funziona. grazie
[17:21] <krabador> perfetto
[17:21] <krabador> alessandro76, da un'occhiata pure alla voce di supporto lingue
[17:21] <krabador> e vai con Dio-.
[17:22] <Guest43929> mi ha dato un link
[17:22] <krabador> Guest43929, incollalo qui
[17:22] <Guest43929> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209773/
[17:23] <krabador> ok Guest43929 riavvia, e vedi se va
[17:23] <Guest43929> ok
[17:57] <mapreri> krabador: no grazie non mi piace formattare le mie pendrive :P
[17:57] <mapreri> [04:21:39 PM] <krabador> mapreri, se formatti la pendrive è meglio
[17:58] <krabador> ma sappi che è meglio
[17:59] <krabador> al di la dei gusti. cio' che è meglio puo' essere sgradevole
[17:59] <mapreri> le medicine migliori sono quelle cattive?
[17:59] <krabador> esatto
[18:43] <giovanni> save a tutti ho un problema di connessione
[18:44] <giovanni> chi mi puo aiutare
[18:46] <ugone> giovanni, fa la domanda
[18:46] <giovanni> mi spiego ieri o installa ubuntu sul mio pc ma il pc si collegava a internet tramite usb wifi ma ora con ubuntu non lo fa piu e non riconosce neache il dispositivo fiwi
[18:49] <giovanni> il dispositivo wifi e tp-link tl-w725n
[18:51] <drugo12> sera a tutti, volevo provare kubuntu da pen drive però quando selezione la usb da boot fa schermata nera e parte Mate cosa mai successa prima, ho provato a creare la iso sia con creazione di dischi che unetbootin (quest ultima piu volte) ma non va.
[19:03] <mrpaga> ciao a tutti, da quando ho installato ubuntu 15.10 non mi funzionano più i driver della scheda video(amd catalyst) sapete come potrei fare?
[19:20] <BUXUS> Buonasera. Avrei un problema tecnico con Ubuntu 14.04 preinstallato da Dell computer su Inspiron. Dopo aver installato alcune applicazioni è scomparso ogni accesso a Menu e Launcher. Non è avviabile alcun terminale e temo di dover reisnstallare . Ma ho dei dubbi sulle connessioni e sul fatto che questo Notebook adotta Boot Uefi
[19:21] <BUXUS> Posso dialogare / inviare sms a qualche tecnico?
[19:21] <BUXUS> Grazie moltissime. - Michele
[19:27] <ugone> buxus
[19:28] <ugone> prova a dare ctrl+alt+t
[19:29] <BUXUS> Grazie, lo avevo trovato in un post di forum Ubuntu, ma non reagisce ....non succede nulla nemmeno con Ctrl+Alt+T
[19:29] <ugone> e con ctrl+alt+f2?
[19:30] <BUXUS> Eguale sorte, provata anche quella...
[19:30] <ugone> ctrl+alt+f7 torni indietro
[19:30] <BUXUS> Torno indietro...a cosa?
[19:31] <BUXUS> (perdona la domanda che potrebbe apparire poco sensata)
[19:31] <ugone> cmq uf2 ti porta ad un terminale ed f7 ti riporta alla grafica
[19:31] <BUXUS> provo...
[19:31] <BUXUS> (stonscrivendo con un'altra macchina orta)
[19:31] <BUXUS> ora+
[19:31] <ugone> ctrlctrl+alt+f2 ectrl+alt+f7
[19:32] <ugone> certo
[19:33] <BUXUS> un attimo che riapro il pc..
[19:33] <BUXUS> non da segni
[19:34] <BUXUS> nemmeno con ctrl+alt+f7
[19:35] <BUXUS> sono riuscito, prima, ad incollare l'avvio di terminale su desktop, ma mi dice che non può avviare il propgramma
[19:35] <BUXUS> e' per quello che temo fortemente di dover reinstallare il tutto...
[19:36] <BUXUS> (infatti sto scaricando la .iso con questo pc qui
[19:37] <ugone> cmq non dovresti aver alcun problema con uefi
[19:37] <BUXUS> il problema è che il bios è stato predisposto con Uefi e non ho idea di come posso fare per fargli vedere la pennetta Usb di avvio e Live
[19:37] <BUXUS> Non sono pratico di Uefi
[19:38] <BUXUS> è quella la verità...
[19:38] <BUXUS> e poi sia la scheda grafica che la wi-fi del pc (che non ha una Ethernet 10/100) è un dato proprietario Dell e non la vede in umna live..
[19:39] <BUXUS> Ho provato con un Live 12.04 che tengo x le emergenze di ufficio
[19:40] <BUXUS> Se mi dai 2 dritte sintetiche di come me fare la Live per Uefi (non ho capito molto dalle istruzioni sul sito)
[19:41] <BUXUS> Te ne sarei molto grato.
[19:42] <BUXUS> Inoltre, il problema è che dovrei "riformattare l'Hd" se no l'installazione nuova ricopre la vecchia ma il problema non varia...no?
[19:44] <BUXUS> (se preferisci inviarmi risposta con calma, per mail: [email protected])
[19:44] <BUXUS> Grazie moltissime. Cmq.
[19:45] <ugone> hai dati da salvare su quel pc?
[19:45] <BUXUS> No è arruivato oggi pomeriggio nuovo
[19:45] <ugone> allora non credo sia già da riformattare
[19:46] <ugone> improbabile
[19:46] <BUXUS> Ma in ogni caso credo sia da reinstallare il sistema, se si comporta così
[19:46] <ugone> se non hai una fretta dell'accidente ti conviene richiedere qui tra un po o magari domani
[19:47] <ugone> si comporta cosi ma non è detto sia da reinstallare
[19:47] <BUXUS> Beh non ho frettissima.
[19:48] <BUXUS> Più che altro era per capire. Sicuramente Compiz ha un problema ( e lo segnala)
[19:48] <ugone> aspe
[19:48] <ugone> al login
[19:49] <ugone> dovrebbe esserci una rotella o qualcosa di simile
[19:50] <BUXUS> prima di dare il login sembra tutto ok
[19:50] <BUXUS> in alto da la barra menu
[19:50] <BUXUS> poi do il mio login e compare la pagina desktop senza menu e scompare la barra in alto
[19:51] <BUXUS> per spegnere devo fare ctr+alt+f5
[19:51] <BUXUS> scusa f4
[19:52] <ugone> aspe
[19:52] <BUXUS> si
[19:53] <BUXUS> (p.s. nessuna rotella al login)
[19:53] <ugone> http://www.oneopensource.it/files/2012/01/unitygreeter.png
[19:53] <ugone> dovresti aver qualcosa che ti fa scegliere
[19:54] <BUXUS> negativo non vedo opzioni di scelta
[19:54] <ugone> clicca tutto quel che trovi
[19:55] <BUXUS> ci sono solo 2 nomi: il mio e Ospite ma richiedono solo psw.
[19:55] <BUXUS> Il menu in alto non da altre opzioni che quelle proprie prima di entrare nell'account
[19:56] <ugone> dove c'è il tuo nome
[19:56] <ugone> di fianco ci dovrebbe esser qualcosa
[19:56] <BUXUS> no non c'è nulla
[19:56] <ugone> un pallino o un segno
[19:57] <BUXUS> non è come nella videata che mi hai linkato
[19:57] <ugone> era come esempio
[19:57] <BUXUS> è senza nulla, ma ciò anche nel 14.04 che è su questa macchina qui con la quale ti scrivo
[19:58] <ugone> sarà che ho installati altri De
[19:58] <ugone> ma mi sembrava che compiz desse la possibilità
[19:59] <BUXUS> sugli altri 2 dell che sono + vecchi lo avevo instyallato io il 12.04
[19:59] <BUXUS> e tutto era ok..
[19:59] <BUXUS> questo è arrivato già così da loro
[20:00] <BUXUS> (e di fatto dentro devono aver inserito i dati di scheda grafica, wi-fi e bluetooth)
[20:00] <BUXUS> in quanto all'accensione ti fa l'installazione,
[20:00] <BUXUS> ma è molto rapid
[20:01] <BUXUS> rapida e ti chiede solo orario e tastiera
[20:01] <ugone> a grandi linee dovrebbe solo farti la home utente
[20:02] <BUXUS> dopo però, nell'account, per gli aggiornamentyi, devi cliccare per il software di 3e parti...se no non carica programmi differenti
[20:03] <BUXUS> si in effetti fa la home utente. Io ho poi messo alcune applicazioni che mnon c'erano:
[20:03] <BUXUS> Firefox, ad esempio,ù
[20:03] <BUXUS> poi ho cercato di installare java vers. 7
[20:04] <BUXUS> perchè è necessario per i programmi Sogei
[20:04] <BUXUS> (qui facciamo tributario)
[20:05] <BUXUS> Nel mentre che ho installato gli applicativi nuovi, ho messo anche alcuni fissi nel launcher e ne ho tolti altri
[20:06] <BUXUS> poi ha richiesto l'aggiornamento (molto lungo x altro)
[20:06] <Barabba> L'errore gksudo:24585 cosa significa
[20:06] <BUXUS> dopo al riavvio, ha dato questa situazione
[20:08] <Barabba> No dopo che ho dato gksudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list
[20:10] <ugone> BUXUS, chiedi domani di nuovo
[20:11] <ugone> vado a lavorare
[20:13] <Barabba> Avevo trovato come rimontare i files system ma non va ed ho provato a fare un editing
[20:15] <Barabba> Ho da giorni ubuntu bloccato e vedo i files ma non parte
[20:18] <Barabba> Krabador i files di system non vengono avviati
[20:23] <krabador> Barabba, spiegati
[20:25] <Barabba> Quando avvio da riga comando mi dice status non accessibile
[20:26] <krabador> Barabba, quale sistema
[20:27] <Barabba> Ubuntu 15.10
[20:27] <krabador> Barabba, snocciola dettagli per favore
[20:27] <krabador> !dettagli | Barabba
[20:27] <ubot-it> Barabba: Per favore dacci dettagli completi. Per esempio "Ho un problema con..., sto usando Ubuntu versione... con interfaccia.... Quando provo a fare..., ottengo questo output: ..., ma mi sarei aspettato che facesse..."
[20:28] <krabador> delineando anche la macchina in cui hai installato
[20:30] <Barabba> Asus x54c con ubuntu residente unico so che dopo aggiornamento a 15.10 si e bloccato e mi da errore con /var... Status file non found
[20:33] <Barabba> Forse non trova i files /etc/fstab
[20:34] <krabador> Barabba, se hai grub in avvio, seconda linea dall'alto
[20:34] <krabador> poi ancora seconda linea dall'alto
[20:34] <krabador> attacchi cavo lan, selezioni networking
[20:34] <krabador> poi roo
[20:34] <krabador> root
[20:35] <krabador> mount -o remount,rw /
[20:35] <krabador> apt-get update
[20:35] <krabador> apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:35] <Barabba> Grazie sono in wifi ma grub l'ho provato ma mi da lo stesso errore
[20:36] <krabador> "grub l'ho provato" --> ti sto dicendo di caricare recovery
[20:36] <krabador> la wifi in recovery puo' non funzionare, per tutta una serie di motivi
[20:37] <krabador> quindi cavo
[20:37] <Barabba> Ho fatto con recovery ma forse devo fare con cavo ora provo grazie
[20:54] <Barabba> Grazie proverò domani con cavo ciao
[20:55] <krabador> Barabba, in base a cio' che danno i comandi ci si deve muovere di conseguenza
[22:28] <matteo> buonasera
[22:29] <Guest39833> quando apro ubuntu software center mi da la finestra ma diventa tutto grigio e non funziona cosa devo fare
[22:30] <Guest39833> ce qualcuno??
[22:47] <wuolfit> ciao a tutti belli e brutti
[22:50] <wuolfit> il mio problema e' questo ho 2 pc linux collegati alla stessa rete....quello che vorrei fare e' : metre uso il pc1 collegandomi via ssh al pc2 vorrei eseguire un programma nel pc2 il cui gui grafico viene visualizzato nel pc1. So che esiste il comando export display ma che sintassi devo usare???? e quali sono i comandi da usare nel pc1 (quello che uso io) e quali sono quelli da usare nel pc2 (quello remoto)????
[22:57] <wuolfit> <sarcasmo> hei ragazzi mettevi in fila....non rispondete tutti assieme </sarcasmo>
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[04:20] <tuxGentoo> hola
[04:20] <tuxGentoo> como estan
[04:21] <tuxGentoo> alguno de españa
[04:22] <tuxGentoo> u otro pais
[11:34] <erchache2000> es posible dividir el dhcpd.conf en ficheros, cada uno por subred?
[12:36] <erchache2000> hola podría dividir el dhcpd.conf en archivos, cada uno por subred?
[14:08] <DELLtra> nas o/
[14:13] <GridCube> oi
[15:48] <MarioMey> Hola gente. Nuevamente quiero solucionar un problema de dependencias... cuando quiero instalar ciertos paquetes.
[15:49] <MarioMey> Estoy queriendo compilar Blender, entonces estoy bajando dependencias. El tema es que no puedo empezar a instalarlas porque me salta un error del tipo "Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:·
[15:49] <MarioMey> libglew-dev : Depende: libgl1-mesa-dev o libgl-dev
[15:49] <MarioMey> Depende: libglu1-mesa-dev pero no va a instalarse o libglu-dev
[15:49] <MarioMey> E: No se pudieron corregir los problemas, usted ha retenido paquetes rotos.
[15:50] <MarioMey> Este mismo error (con otros paquetes) me salta cuando quiero instalar Skype o Google Earth, por ejemplo.
[15:50] <MarioMey> "sudo apt -f install" no funciona, no resuelve.
[17:19] <successus> salud o/
[17:38] <MarioMey> Salud
[17:46] <Deckon> hola
[17:47] <Deckon> alguien ha hecho un servidor de clonado con ubuntu server o conoce documentacion al respecto?
[19:17] <successus> salud, hasta otro rato o/
[20:53] <yuan> buenas
[20:54] <yuan> tengo un vps con 6 ip publicas, y quiero montar un socket server
[20:54] <yuan> pero quiero que cada cliente se conecte a cada ip
[20:54] <yuan> alguna idea de como hacerlo?
[20:55] <yuan> la verdad nose ni como buscarlo en google
[20:55] <yuan> por que de todas las maneras como lo he buscado consigo configurar el putty para hacer el tunnel ssh
[21:02] <yuan> alguie que me ayude???
[21:04] <yuan> exit
[23:35] <estudiante> AYUDAAAA
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-us-wi
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[22:23] <tsimonq2> o/ adueppen
[22:24] <adueppen> hi tsimonq2
[22:25] <tsimonq2> adueppen: a friendly bot named DragonEyes will invite you to the cool kids channel
[22:25] <tsimonq2> adueppen: nvm, just join #phillw
[22:41] <tsimonq2> h00k: curious, what's the status on the transition?
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2015-11-09-#juju
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[04:15] <blahdeblah> Any charmers able to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~paulgear/charms/trusty/ntp/sync-charm-helpers/+merge/276826?
[04:16] * marcoceppi_ shrugs
[04:16] <marcoceppi_> sure
[04:18] <blahdeblah> thanks marcoceppi_ - should be an easy one; I just wanted to get it out of the way before proposing my second one.
[04:36] <blahdeblah> marcoceppi_: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulgear/charms/trusty/ntp/sync-canonical-is-charms/+merge/276951 is the second one
[04:36] <blahdeblah> thanks for the merge!
[04:37] <marcoceppi_> blahdeblah: it's almost midnight and still Sunday, I'll let this get handled in the queue
[04:37] * marcoceppi_ sleeps
[04:37] <blahdeblah> np
[08:04] <blahdeblah> Hi all - I've got a question about the juju-info implicit relation. When we "nova floating-ip-associate $MACHINE $IP" in an OpenStack environment, juju status eventually works out that $IP is the public address, but that doesn't show up in the relation data returned from relation-get. Why? How can I get access to this information from within the charm?
[08:13] <gnuoy> jamespage, https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charms/trusty/odl-controller/amulet/+merge/276959 I'm investigating amulet fails for > trusty atm
[08:18] <stub> gnuoy: _initialize_tests has a whole heap of unit/0's hardcoded, and there may no longer be a unit/0
[08:18] <gnuoy> stub, there may no longer be a unit/0 ?
[08:19] <gnuoy> I must be missing an exciting new development
[08:19] <stub> Yes, with Juju 1.25 unit numbers stopped being recycled. So your first unit will not be unit 0 if the environment previously had a service using the same name.
[08:20] <gnuoy> ack, thanks for the tip
[08:20] <stub> https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/trusty/cassandra/spike/+merge/276372
[08:22] <gnuoy> stub, even better , thanks for the fix!
[08:22] <stub> Share it around, its going to bite every non-trivial set of Amulet tests ;)
[10:00] <jamespage> dimitern, morning - nice picture ;-)
[10:00] <jamespage> http://blog.naydenov.net/2015/11/deploying-openstack-on-maas-1-9-with-juju-network-setup/
[10:00] <jamespage> thanks for the credit btw :-)
[10:01] <dimitern> jamespage, hey :) yeah - I'd like to give credit where it's due
[10:01] <dimitern> jamespage, thanks
[10:02] <jamespage> dimitern, great replay on our conversations btw
[10:02] <dimitern> jamespage, there are still some unresolved points, but it's shaping up I think
[10:02] <jamespage> dimitern, yup
[10:03] <jamespage> dimitern, so I think that thedac will be on point from my team to work on this - gnuoy is going on holiday for december afaict
[10:03] <gnuoy> haha, I'm around but lots of holiday dotted around the place
[10:17] <gnuoy> jamespage, any idea when python-networking-odl will be in the cloud archive for kilo and liberty?
[10:18] <jamespage> gnuoy, its already there
[10:18] <gnuoy> jamespage, argh, sorry. I'm looking at a vivid deploy so no cloud archive
[10:19] <gnuoy> jamespage, is it on its way to vivid?
[10:19] <jamespage> gnuoy, actually vivid did not get that enablement
[10:19] <jamespage> gnuoy, only the CA
[10:19] <jamespage> gnuoy, I don't think we'll do vivid
[10:19] <jamespage> its high cost, with no users as far as I'm concerned
[10:19] <jamespage> we can use the UCA for hardware enablement stuff like this
[10:20] <gnuoy> jamespage, ok, so the amulet tests for odl-controller can just be trusty?
[10:20] <jamespage> gnuoy, for now yes that's fine
[10:54] <sto> I'm deploying openstack liberty with juju using the same configuration I used for kilo and it looks that the neutron-gateway charm does not install the neutron-dhcp-agent ... is that intentional?
[10:55] <sto> With the current deployment my openstack nodes have no dhcp service
[10:55] <sto> BTW, if this is not the right irc channel a pointer to the right one will be appreciated
[12:08] <jamespage> sto: that's not intentional, but not something I've seen either in my testing
[12:08] <jamespage> (and this channel if fine for openstack charms + juju stuff)
[12:09] <jamespage> sto: can you tell a bit more about your deployment? output of juju status might be good for a start
[12:14] <sto> jamespage: I'm re-deploying it now to have a clean installation, I'll send you a pastebin once deployed
[13:09] <gnuoy> jamespage, https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charms/trusty/odl-controller/amulet/+merge/276959 is ready for review. I can remove the systemd stuff if you want.
[13:41] <gnuoy> jamespage, I missed a ch change to support the previously mentioned branch https://code.launchpad.net/~gnuoy/charm-helpers/exlude-no-openstack-origin/+merge/277005
[13:57] <ddellav> jamespage, here's the link to the neutron port security MP again from friday in case you missed it: https://code.launchpad.net/~ddellav/charms/trusty/neutron-api/ml2-port-security/+merge/276764
[13:58] <ddellav> for some reason tests don't seem to have run, i must have disabled them somehow, I'll fix it.
[14:01] <jamespage> ddellav, looking now
[14:03] <jamespage> ddellav, couple of comments
[14:05] <ddellav> jamespage, got it, fixing.
[14:09] <jcastro> marcoceppi_: hey, wrt. charm-tools and all our associated tooling, did you see barry's plan for python3 only in main for 16.04?
[14:10] <jamespage> jcastro, erm python3 only in the iso
[14:10] <jamespage> not quite the same thing as python3 only in main
[14:11] <jcastro> ack
[14:13] <jcastro> acutally I said that entirely backwards, what I should have said is "hey are we ready for distros to drop python2"
[14:19] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/693945/openstack-dashboard-instance-console-unavailable
[14:19] <jcastro> I've got some openstack questions that need to be scrubbed if people want to check them out
[14:32] <Odd_Bloke> So I'm trying to configure Juju (1.22.8) to use an HTTP proxy and (a) I'm seeing that I can't configure an HTTP proxy but _not_ an apt HTTP proxy, and (b) that the OpenStack provider attempts to use the configured proxy for OpenStack API calls.
[14:33] <Odd_Bloke> Are either of these things fixed/changed in more recent versions, or shall I report bugs?
[14:35] <beisner> Odd_Bloke, that is a thing for sure. in my experience, the only way to get endpoint http/https traffic to not proxy api calls, is to set no_proxy to include every possible endpoint IP. note, no_proxy doesn't understand cidr.
[14:52] <beisner> hi gnuoy, i've added odl/amulet MP comments. holler with any ?s. thanks!
[14:54] <marcoceppi_> jcastro: yes
[15:16] <sunitha> Hi
[15:18] <sunitha> i want to discuss about IBM XL Fortran charm review comments, which we recieved recently
[15:20] <sunitha> Hi Matt
[15:20] <mbruzek> Hello
[15:20] <sunitha> The charm must cryptographically verify all downloaded software. Line 125 of hooks/config-changed will skip the cryptographic check if the sha_fortran configuration variable is an empty string (which is default).
[15:21] <mbruzek> yes
[15:21] <sunitha> This is about Ibm XL fortran charm
[15:21] <mbruzek> Yes, I am watching this channel now that you said my name.
[15:21] <mbruzek> I recall the review.
[15:22] <sunitha> actually till now we were doing for all the charms as if user provides some value for cryptographic check, it will check, if user has not provided any thing it will ignore
[15:24] <mbruzek> sunitha: A charm can not skip the crytpographic check. The way I read the code if the sha_fortran configuration value was NOT set then the software would not be verified.
[15:25] <sunitha> yes
[15:25] <mbruzek> sunitha: I see people just leaving that value empty when they deploy the charm (because empty is default)
[15:26] <mbruzek> So by default the charm will never check the cryptographic signature.
[15:26] <mbruzek> unless the user sets the sha_fortran value.
[15:27] <mbruzek> sunitha: You don't have to write code to verify payloads that are already inside the charm. This is why I highly suggest putting the xl fortran payload inside the charm.
[15:27] <sunitha> now you want us to specify default package value there?
[15:28] <mbruzek> sunitha: no. But you can not skip the validation if the value is empty.
[15:29] <sunitha> but if i keep build inside charm user can deploy charm for only specific version
[15:29] <sunitha> he cannot use for another build version
[15:30] <mbruzek> sunitha: How often is this xl fortran package updated?
[15:31] <mbruzek> sunitha: many charms make use of this pattern (putting the binary inside the charm). Only the IBM charms require downloading the binary and putting inside the charm.
[15:32] <mbruzek> sunitha: I suspect there is not much activity on the Fortran binary.
[15:32] <mbruzek> but if there is, you can either update the charm, or write in the README how the user can update.
[15:33] <mbruzek> sunitha: I see the BASH code looks for *tar.gz anyway so in theory the user could replace with the new version.
[15:33] <mbruzek> Before they deploy .
[15:37] <sunitha> Matt: In last 6 months they updated with 2 fix packs
[15:38] <mbruzek> I still highly suggest putting the binary inside the charm, it makes it way easier to deploy the charm.
[15:39] <mbruzek> much easier user experience
[15:40] <sunitha> ok I will keep this inside charm only
[15:41] <sunitha> and one more thing about license
[15:41] <sunitha> with out setting license value , prouct uninstall will not happen
[15:42] <sunitha> if user want to uninstall the software..
[15:43] <sunitha> if i remove license parameter, how user will uninstall the software?
[15:43] <mbruzek> yes I understand
[15:44] <mbruzek> the license needs to be accepted
[15:48] <sunitha> matt:I cannot add any relations to this , since it is a stand alone and its just a compailer, using this user can develop applications in power linux systems.
[16:09] <mbruzek> sunitha: that is unfortunate, it really limits the usefulness of the charm.
[16:10] <mbruzek> sunitha: please consider the merge proposal I made to improve the README.md file. If you do end up putting the file inside the charm the README.md file will need to be edited to remove the apache server, and perhaps tell the user how to put a new binary in the charm.
[16:13] <mbruzek> sunitha: regarding the uninstall: The user does not need to uninstall the software. If fortran is the only thing on the instance then when the user is done they would just shutdown/destroy the instance.
[16:15] <mbruzek> sunitha: uninstall: If you mean how would the user uninstall the software when the license was no longer accepted that code would not change. You can still remove it from /opt/ibm/.... so they can not run the fortran compiler any longer.
[16:23] <sunitha> Ok .Thanks Matt.
[18:16] <jcastro> cory_fu: bcsaller: So adam did a ghost charm with reactive
[18:16] <jcastro> and I started thinking, and it may be dumb but I'd like to think aloud for a minute
[19:51] <bdx> hey whats going on everyone? When specifying "JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAGS=address-allocation" it seems my deploy is blocked after the first 3 devices are allocated ips see -> http://cl.ly/image/2o292Z3g1F3Q
[19:52] <bdx> I have verified this multiple times now......I'm sure you guys are already all over this though....
[20:37] <lazypower> bdx o/
[20:38] <lazypower> bdx - make sure you follow up with a bug on that please. It helps when tracking issues like this - if its a duplicate we can link the issues and track in a singular location
[20:46] <bdx> lazypower: I did
[20:46] <lazypower> bdx: ta :) appreciate the diligence in feedback
[20:47] <bdx> lazypower: of course!
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2015-11-09-#xubuntu
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so I pressed the del button by mistake while highlighting a folder
and now it tells me that "Items in the trash may not be modified"
what does this mean? Xubuntu 15.05
[02:18] <hoodedice> when I'm trying to restore the folder, yes
[11:54] <Marcio_M> Good day. New xubuntu user here. On my xubuntu machine can´t open libreoffice files saved on a samba file server over the network. When I double-clicks on thunar over a .ods or .odt file on a samba share, Libreoffice splash screens appears for some seconds, but just disappears after that. What can I do?
[12:09] <nikow> Try start it from console.
[12:10] <nikow> Console will tell you what is wrong.
[12:14] <MarcioMM> Good day, let me repost my question since I had to change IRC client...
[12:15] <MarcioMM> Good day. New xubuntu user here. On my xubuntu machine I can´t open libreoffice files saved on a samba file server over the network. When I double-clicks on thunar over a .ods or .odt file on a samba share, Libreoffice splash screens appears for some seconds, but just disappears after that. What can I do?
[12:16] <MarcioMM> [[[ Ok.. I have just left from the other cliente (but I am still here waiting for a response. Thanks ]]]
[12:31] <genius3000> MarcioMM: in case you missed it:
Try start it from console.
Console will tell you what is wrong.
[12:34] <MarcioMM> ok.. let me try it
[12:48] <MarcioMM> genius3000: I have tried using "lowriter"
[12:51] <MarcioMM> genius3000: I get the following messages "javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!" and "Warning: failed to read path from javaldx"
[12:52] <MarcioMM> And then... Writer opens. So I click on file > open, choose the file on the samba share and... nothing happens... No file is opened. No message on terminal.
[12:53] <MarcioMM> sergio-br só pode ser brasileiro
[12:55] <MarcioMM> Every other kind of file opens correctly from the samba share: pfd, png, and so on. But not libreoffice files. So I believe it´s something about Libreoffice itself.
[13:00] <Walliski> What happens if you open libre office, then click open from the menus and browse the file?
[13:00] <MarcioMM> Nothing happens. It is lile if I had not clicked on anything.
[13:01] <MarcioMM> I mean.. it's like if I had not clicked on anything
[13:02] <Walliski> When googling I find a couple of similar problems, but not sure how up-to-date they are... Most of them are from 2014 or older
[13:03] <MarcioMM> xubuntu-desktop-15-10 here. Installed yesterday
[13:03] <Walliski> Which version of LibreOffice do you have?
[13:03] <MarcioMM> By the way... it is running on VirtualBox as a guest
[13:03] <MarcioMM> The original one that came with xubuntu-15.10
[13:04] <MarcioMM> 5.0.2.2
[13:05] <MarcioMM> Xubuntu is on a Virtual Machine. Virtualbox 5.0.8 host on Windows 10. Xubuntu-15-10-desktop guest.
[13:07] <Walliski> Cant really help much, maybe someone else can, but here seems to be a guy with similar problem: https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/3ij405/libreoffice_cannot_open_files_on_a_network/
[13:12] <MarcioMM> Gonna read
[13:14] <MarcioMM> My samba share is on a ubuntu 14.04 server machine
[13:14] <MarcioMM> My windows machines use it everyday with OpenOffice
[13:24] <MarcioMM> Ok... I have made this now...
[13:25] <MarcioMM> mount -t cifs -o username=***,password=f***, //server-ip/share /mnt/samba
[13:25] <MarcioMM> cd /mnt/samba/myfolder
[13:25] <MarcioMM> (all of this as superuser)
[13:26] <MarcioMM> lowriter -o myfile.odt
[13:26] <MarcioMM> and IT WORKED
[13:26] <MarcioMM> I am a Linux newbie
[13:27] <MarcioMM> But... thunar won't me let into /mnt/samba because, I believe, it owned by root
[13:32] <MarcioMM> I need to let something very simple to my users
[13:32] <MarcioMM> They don't know Linux at all
[13:32] <MarcioMM> xubuntu will be the way
[13:33] <MarcioMM> Changing permissions or ownership on /mnt/samba could solve this question, now???
[13:34] <MarcioMM> What permissions should I set?
[13:38] <knome> MarcioMM, you should look into adding the share into /etc/fstab if you want to make it available for all
[13:39] <MarcioMM> Someone is suggesting on the link passed by Walliski that installing libreoffice-gnome solved all the question. Will this install the whole gnome stuff in xubuntu???
[13:40] <MarcioMM> knome: ok... I will try it
[16:21] * xubuntu790 slaps BytesAndCoffee around a bit with a large fishbot
[16:22] <bazhang> !ot | xubuntu790
[17:09] <user_noop> hello, there. I did a fresh installation of xubuntu 15.10. In the upper left corner i saw wiskermenu. But i didn't find the Libreoffice Draw and Imrpess inside. Writer and Calc are almost there? Something wrong? What to do?
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-uk
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[02:14] <mapps> tired;]
[02:15] <mapps> watched 2 films today heh man from uncle and knock knock
[02:15] <mapps> hard day:)
[03:13] <mapps> quiet time eh
[09:23] <diplo> Morning all
[09:30] <popey> yes
[09:38] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy World Freedom Day! 😃
[09:48] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgcTvoWjZJU seems apt
[09:50] <JamesTait> davmor2, +1
[09:53] <foobarry> how can i check in perl if a variable doesn't contain special characters?
[09:54] <foobarry> i'm chomping lines from a log that sometimes have weird chars like ��
[09:54] <davmor2> foobarry: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[09:55] <foobarry> oh :(
[09:55] <davmor2> foobarry: perl's doc base is meant to be really good you can check there other than that someone must still use perl ;)
[09:56] <foobarry> i think i just need a regexp to check for regaular alphanumeric+punctuiations
[09:57] <foobarry> if ($str =~ /[^!-~\s]/g){print "Non-ASCII character found"}
[09:57] <foobarry> maybe that will do it
[09:57] <davmor2> foobarry: http://perldoc.perl.org/perlunicode.html that might help you
[10:01] <foobarry> davmor2: the regexp fixed it for me
[10:01] <davmor2> foobarry: :)
[10:18] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:24] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:26] <bigcalm> o/
[10:27] <brobostigon> hi bigcalm
[12:14] <daftykins> aww my favourite tamed telco engineer is retiring in 4 weeks :(
[12:17] <daftykins> great having a direct line to get stuff sorted :D
[12:19] <zmoylan-pi> was... it WAS great having a direct line to get stuff sorted :-)
[12:19] <daftykins> ;_; too soon!
[12:19] <daftykins> just got a nice USB 3.0 UASP capable 2.5" SATA enclosure :D
[12:20] <daftykins> also 4 x 8GB USB 2.0 flash drives for £8 \o/
[12:20] <daftykins> trying out doing a straight up cp of an ubuntu ISO straight onto the /dev/sdX now, not tried it before
[12:22] <popey> cp?
[12:22] <popey> not dd?
[12:22] <popey> ooh, lunch time
[12:29] <daftykins> indeed! sure enough it works perfecto
[12:29] <daftykins> sudo cp /path/to/iso /dev/sdX
[12:29] <daftykins> a quick "sync" after to be sure, and hey presto
[13:29] <popey> Anyone else use privacy badger
[13:29] <popey> ?
[13:31] <foobarry> nope
[13:31] <foobarry> use adblock
[13:32] <zmoylan-pi> i have it installed in firefox atm
[13:32] <daftykins> ublock origin is a lot leaner than adblock
[13:32] <foobarry> daftykins: how?
[13:32] <daftykins> its' implementation is just better, give it a try
[13:32] <foobarry> "This extension does not work at all in FF42. Everything is allowed now. Examples being google-analytics, scorecardresearch, facebook, etc. Everything is set to allow."
[13:32] <zmoylan-pi> but be careful to use ublock origin and not the other version of ublock
[13:32] <daftykins> plus it has none of the bribery whitelisting that adblock has.
[13:32] <foobarry> ^^ someone moanuing about badger in ff
[13:33] <foobarry> response: If you've installed a new version of it, it will take some time for Privacy Badger to re-build its hueristics. You may find that soon many of these trackers will be blocked (once they've been spotted on a few sites)
[13:33] <zmoylan-pi> seems to be working/reporting trackers on firefox 42 here ok
[13:34] <foobarry> others moaning that it breaks sites
[13:35] <foobarry> css issues
[13:39] <diddledan> if it just blocks shared assets then I wonder how it copes with things like the javascript cdn?
[13:39] <diddledan> specifically https://cdnjs.com/
[15:33] <Laney> booked a dentist checkup for 8.30 on thursday
[15:33] <Laney> WHY
[15:34] <diddledan> that's way too early
[15:34] <diddledan> you'll have to not sleep! :-p
[15:34] <zmoylan-pi> flannel pyjamas soak up lots of blood... :-P
[15:35] <diddledan> ok. what's "ubuntu personal"?
[15:35] <diddledan> teh googs isn't helping much on the term
[15:35] <davmor2> diddledan: snappy based phone and desktop
[15:36] <davmor2> diddledan: infact just generally phone and desktop
[15:36] <diddledan> why do we need a different name?
[15:36] <popey> deb vs not-deb based
[15:37] <diddledan> hmm
[15:38] <SuperMatt> that's a fair point
[15:38] <davmor2> diddledan: because phone and desktop are the same team so why call them different things when you can call both personal, add to that table and tv and it's even easier to call it one thing rather than 4 :)
[15:38] <diddledan> why can't we just call it "ubuntu"?
[15:39] <SuperMatt> I think I get it. Snappy is used in phones because it's a way of being able to install applications without requiring any kind of privalege escalation. It's a personal device, so it doesn't need to be overly complex - hence ubuntu personal
[15:40] <diddledan> I get why we have the name "ubuntu phone" while there's a difference between the two, but once we're unified I don't see why we can't just call it "ubuntu"
[15:40] <SuperMatt> but the deb based ubuntu works in the old way. Want to install something? You need to escalate to root. This is not a personal way of doing things
[15:42] <davmor2> diddledan: because all of it is ubuntu but you wouldn't install the cloud image on your phone, so we need a way to separate for the new series coming though, so Ubuntu cloud, Ubuntu server, Ubuntu Personal and Ubuntu iot
[15:43] <diddledan> ok, that makes sense
[15:43] <diddledan> so when can I buy ubuntu personal?
[15:43] <diddledan> :-p
[15:46] <davmor2> diddledan: once snappy is stable, it's api is stable and then we have the desktop/gfx/networking/bluetooth.....frameworks in place :)
[15:47] <diddledan> am I right in believing that unity8 will be default on 16.04? if so will that be ontop of mir or X+xmir?
[15:47] <davmor2> diddledan: no
[15:47] <diddledan> ok
[15:49] <davmor2> diddledan: unity7 will be the default for 16.04, unity8/snappy (aka personal) will be targeted for 16.10 but again not as default, the users will say when it is ready for the prime time, but then the plan as I understand it that 18.04 will be personal based
[15:49] <diddledan> rightio
[15:50] <diddledan> so we're hoping to be personal in the next LTS
[15:50] <diddledan> (after 16.04)
[15:51] <davmor2> diddledan: I think that is the game plan but it depends on lots of things and user feedback etc etc etc If you listen to Marks keynote from UOS he says we will not be rushing unity8 to the desktop like we did with unity7
[15:52] <diddledan> right, so we're going for more of a "when it's ready"
[15:52] <diddledan> I think that is quite a good approach - have targets but not requirements
[15:53] <diddledan> I hate hard deadlines
[15:57] <diddledan> interesting video I'm watching on scopes from the UoS - about the javascript scopes. using node.js intrigues me because it would be interesting to explore the possibility of using node.js to create normal apps too in addition to the qml and html styles
[16:01] <diddledan> hmm, node embedded in each scope that uses it
[16:02] <diddledan> problem with that is increase in package size
[16:44] <brobostigon> anyone familier with a hittite cuneiform translation matrix?
[16:48] <davmor2> brobostigon: isn't everyone........hmmmmm not!
[16:49] <brobostigon> quite.
[16:49] <brobostigon> its a specilist thing.
[16:49] <diddledan> I was just thinking about learning that!
[16:50] <davmor2> brobostigon: the hittites were a tribe from the old testiment if that helps
[16:50] <diddledan> I thought to myself about 10 minutes ago "wouldn't it be interesting to learn about a hittite cuneiform translation matrix?"
[16:50] <brobostigon> davmor2: infact the hitties were a tribe that dies out in 1200bc in eastern turkey.
[16:51] <brobostigon> davmor2: but yes, they were mentioned in said document as well.
[16:51] * diddledan sniggers at the similarity between the word hitties and a piece of anatomy
[16:52] <davmor2> brobostigon: weren't they the ones with a city that rivalled the egyptians, set high in some mountains that made it virtually impregnable too
[16:52] <brobostigon> davmor2: spot on.
[16:52] <diddledan> speaking of ancient people - did you know the bible tells of ancient dwarf civilisations? the nehites and the shoehites
[16:52] <davmor2> brobostigon: it's almost like I saw a tv show about it........wait a minute I did :)
[16:53] <zmoylan-pi> you're going to encode all your private docs in cuniform? :-)
[16:53] <brobostigon> davmor2: :)
[16:53] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: what about heiroglyps?
[16:53] <brobostigon> zmoylan-pi: i need it for a potential game a friend of mine has suggested.
[16:53] <davmor2> brobostigon: so cuniform is their version of heiroglyphs right
[16:53] <zmoylan-pi> that's just emojii... not cool now, not cool then :-)
[16:54] <diddledan> lol
[16:54] <brobostigon> davmor2: cuneiform is the writing system they used, yes.
[16:54] <diddledan> cuniform was just a series of lines iirc?
[16:54] <brobostigon> no.
[16:54] <diddledan> shows how much I know :-p
[16:54] <zmoylan-pi> wedge shaped impressions in clay iirc
[16:54] <diddledan> I R CLEVR
[16:55] <zmoylan-pi> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform
[16:56] <diddledan> that was taught by the aliens, right?
[16:56] <davmor2> brobostigon: from what I remember from the show, isn't it like tall pyramid shape that made up characters similar to chinese/japanese
[16:57] <davmor2> ah it is \o/ I rock at remembering tv shows
[16:57] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tDJP1Ctci8
[16:59] <brobostigon> davmor2: kindof, i am familier with cuneiform, i need a software engine to be able to potentially assist the user with the idea i mentioned above.
[17:00] <diddledan> brobostigon, does google translate work? :-p
[17:00] <brobostigon> it also depends on which version of cuneiform, it varied quite a bit, over tis 35000 odd years in usage.
[17:00] <brobostigon> diddledan: somehow i think thats very unlikely.
[17:00] <diddledan> that's almost like a real language!
[17:00] <zmoylan-pi> you have an extra 0 there unless you want to go the whole aliens route :-)
[17:01] <davmor2> brobostigon: maybe make tiles and then treat it like mahjonng
[17:01] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, definitely go the aliens route!
[17:01] <brobostigon> davmor2: :)
[17:01] * diddledan cites the youtube link above
[17:02] <davmor2> brobostigon: or better still scrabble
[17:03] <brobostigon> lol.
[17:04] <zmoylan-pi> i thought i was geeky playing a rpg with a latin root... :-)
[17:08] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: amateur
[17:13] <zmoylan-pi> and just in time to preserve your tweets... http://dumbcuneiform.com/
[17:13] <davmor2> popey: I wonder if we can do band names for the next alphabet cycle, Adam Ant, Beastie boys, culture club.... it could catch on right :)
[17:18] <zmoylan-pi> or 8 bit computers... atari, bbc, commodore...
[17:19] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: needs to be AA, BB, CC etc
[17:20] <diddledan> isn't it supposed to be adjective/noun?
[17:21] <davmor2> diddledan: yes
[17:21] <davmor2> diddledan: but band names shakes it up a bit :)
[17:21] <diddledan> in which case your CC would have to be cultured club
[17:22] <zmoylan-pi> using the names might cause legal issues...
[17:22] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: ofcourse it would it's not a serious suggestion :P
[17:23] <diddledan> what about body parts?
[17:23] <zmoylan-pi> it is sad that such a simple idea couldn't get past a wild idea stage...
[17:23] <diddledan> epic eyes?
[17:23] <diddledan> crazy calfs?
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> dynamic duodenum
[17:24] <diddledan> ooh good one
[17:24] <diddledan> strenuous sternum
[17:24] <zmoylan-pi> a.... hmmmm.... :-)
[17:25] <diddledan> acute anus
[17:25] <daftykins> what did i channel switch into...
[17:25] <davmor2> arterial aorta
[17:25] <zmoylan-pi> humongus hemaroids...
[17:25] <diddledan> lol
[17:25] <zmoylan-pi> what are we naming again? :-p
[17:26] <diddledan> what about viruses? contagious clamidia?
[17:27] <davmor2> diddledan: get your coat
[17:27] <diddledan> davmor2, have I pulled?
[17:27] <diddledan> or am I being kicked out?
[17:27] <diddledan> :-p
[17:28] <davmor2> diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3OM2MA1pic
[17:30] <popey> davmor2, we wont need names, we'll be rolling by then :)
[17:30] <davmor2> popey: ah of course every release is rawhide
[20:16] <diddledan> my gmail spambox is full of brightly coloured animated icons in the subject lines
[20:17] <daftykins> yeah i've been getting those the last week or two
[20:18] * davmor2 doesn't look at his spam folder
[20:18] <davmor2> makes me cry
[20:18] <diddledan> I try to remember to go through every so often
[20:19] <diddledan> one problem I have is several accounts are all set to forward to a single place but each of those seem to have different spam catching than the final destination
[20:21] <diddledan> apparently my spambox thinks I have a partner, and that I want to cheat on that partner
[20:22] <diddledan> so not only has it given me a partner I wasn't aware of, but it's also decided that I need to be a cheating bar steward
[20:23] <Myrtti> I go through everything daily
[20:23] <diddledan> I guess I need to stop cheating and start loving the partner that I manage to have completely overlooked
[20:23] <Myrtti> unread emails is 0 at all times
[20:23] <davmor2> diddledan: maybe it is that spambox has a partner and it is cheating and it is hiding it's mail by addressing it to you knowing it will get forwarded as spam to itself
[20:23] <diddledan> I hear that gmail gives you an infinity symbol when you have a lot of unread
[22:10] <mapps> hi all
[22:56] <diddledan> ello mapps
[23:51] * daftykins looks at diddledan
[23:51] <daftykins> another dead disk!
[23:51] <diddledan> -.-
[23:51] <diddledan> lol
[23:51] <diddledan> well done!
[23:51] <diddledan> \o/
[23:51] <daftykins> i can smells 'em, i tell ya!
[23:51] <diddledan> keep 'em coming
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[00:00] <k1l> und ja, es liegt an kali, weil weil die eben andere OS kennung etc nutzen
[00:06] <mrkramps> ist kali nicht debian?
[00:06] <k1l> jo stimmt, das haben sie auch geändert
[00:06] <mrkramps> also geht da gar nichts mit ppas
[00:07] <k1l> jo, jetzt weiß ich auch wieder warum wir leute mit kali und konsorten direkt zu deren support schicken :)
[00:14] <me_xy> ich bin wohl zu blöd dazu das scheiss boot repair übers ppa zu installieren
[00:15] <me_xy> wieso gehen ppa nicht unter debian? hab ja extra ne anleitung für kali gefunden fürs ppa
[00:15] <k1l> bei kali wird das auch nichts
[00:19] <me_xy> so habs
[00:39] <me_xy> nur die falsche version drin gehabt, mit der richtigen gehts dann auch
[08:09] <Julian123> hi, bin grade daran opencv zu kompilieren. make läuft durch aber ich bekomme die ganze zeit fehlermeldungen die so aussehen: "Warnung: Kommandozeilenoption »-Wstrict-prototypes« ist gültig für Ada/C/ObjC, aber nicht für C++ [standardmäßig aktiviert]"
[08:10] <Julian123> was hat es mit diesen auf sich?
[08:11] <David1977> absolut geraten: Ich denke, dass es was mit dem Compiler zu tun hat, der versucht was unter C++ zu compilieren, aber dafür eigentlich C braucht?!
[08:13] <Julian123> na denn :D mal schaun ob der build so durchläuft
[08:15] <David1977> wie gesagt...ist nur geraten
[08:21] <geser> das ist nur eine Warnung, sollte also keine Probleme verursachen
[08:23] <Julian123> ist durchgelaufen
[08:23] <geser> Es wurde ein Compiler-Flag gesetzt, der für C++ keine Wirkung hat. Also wird darüber gewarnt (nicht das was man anderes erwartet und sich hinterher wundert).
[08:23] <Julian123> aber seltsammerweiße hatte ich ne fehlermeldung während dem build
[08:23] <Julian123> hab den build dann nochmal mit "make" gestartet und er hat da weitergemacht wo er abgebrochen hat und ist jetzt durchgelaufen
[08:27] <Julian123> hab da wenig praxiserfahrung, kann das probleme machen oder eher nicht, hauptsache durchgelaufen?
[08:29] <geser> eigentlich ja
[08:29] <Julian123> ok auf was bezieht sich dein ja jetzt?^^
[08:30] <geser> wenn es ein ernstes Problem wäre, dann würde es auch bei einem erneuten Aufruf von make zu einem Fehler kommen
[08:33] <Julian123> alles klar danke dir
[09:33] <rentier_> Huhu! Wie kann ich meinem System klarmachen, dass es beim Abmelden keine Sitzung speichern soll? (Xubuntu / Tahr)
[10:27] <koegs> rentier_: den haken hast du entfernt beim abmelden?
[10:28] <rentier_> koegs, ja und auch den in der Sitzungs-Einstellung
[10:28] <rentier_> des is ja des
[10:28] <koegs> rentier_: dann schau mal ob noch was in ~/.cache/session ist und räum da auf
[10:31] <rentier_> koegs, da ist ein zwei Tage altes Thumbnail von einem Fenster-Screenshot namens Default.png in einem weiteren Unterverzeichnis
[10:32] <rentier_> koegs, ich weiß nicht, was das da macht, aber das wird doch wohl kaum die Speicherung von Sitzungen auslösen?
[10:32] <Guest87951> hey habe ein compiliertes programm. über nen doppeklick lässt es sich nicht starten, aber wenn ich es ins terminal ziehe startet es.
[10:33] <Guest87951> woran kann das liegen?
[10:33] <koegs> rentier_: der generelle tip war immer dort aufzuräumen
[10:34] <Guest87951> möchte eigentlich nur ne desktopverknüpfung, damit ich das programm direkt starten kann
[10:34] <koegs> rentier_: bzw den ordner zu löschen
[10:34] <LetoThe2nd> Guest87951: stichwort: .desktop datei, starter.
[10:34] <LetoThe2nd> Guest87951: einfach mal kurz googlen, gibt jede menge vorlagen dafür.
[10:35] <Guest87951> hab ich auch schon probiert. funzt leider nicht...
[10:35] <LetoThe2nd> Guest87951: "funzt leider nicht" ist keine fehlerbeschriebung, mit der irgendwer was anfangen kann.
[10:35] <Guest87951> ja sorry :/
[10:36] <k1l_> Guest87951: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/.desktop-dateien
[10:36] <Guest87951> wenn ich den starter im terminal öffne kommt "keine berechtigung"
[10:36] <LetoThe2nd> Guest87951: vielleicht solltest du sie ihm geben?
[10:36] <k1l_> Guest87951: ganz wichtig dabei: nicht mit sudo und root rumfummeln. das brauchst du in deinem home verzeichnis nicht
[10:37] <Guest87951> sondern?
[10:37] <Guest87951> rechtsklick ausführbar ist auch angehakt
[10:39] <LetoThe2nd> und welche rechte hat das eigentliche programm? darfst du das ausführen? greift das auf irgendwelche dinge zu, für die du nicht berechtigt bist?
[10:39] <Guest87951> ist ein demoprogramm von opencv
[10:39] <k1l_> Guest87951: immer mit root und sudo rumzuhampeln ist der sichere weg sich sein system zu zerschiessen. man nutzt das nur da, wo es auch wirklich sinn macht. im eigenen home verzeichnis (wo auch der desktop ist) ist das vollkommen überflüssig, weil eh alles deinem user gehört
[10:40] <Guest87951> das is ja das komische übers terminal lässt es sich problemlos (mit "./dateiname") starten nur per doppellklick nicht
[10:41] <LetoThe2nd> Guest87951: im terminal als *USER* oder im terminal als *ROOT*?
[10:41] <Guest87951> user
[10:41] <Guest87951> hab btw xfce falls das wichtig ist
[10:42] <LetoThe2nd> sollte es nicht.
[10:43] <LetoThe2nd> und wem gehört die starter-datei? wie sehen die rechte daruf tatsächlich aus?
[10:44] <Guest87951> erstellt mit user und liegt logischerweiße auch in /home/user/desktop
[10:45] <LetoThe2nd> hm. schmeiss doch den starter plus ein ls -alh auf ihn in ein pastebin, bitte.
[10:46] <Guest87951> http://pastebin.com/vrbsiW6d
[10:47] <LetoThe2nd> schmeiss mal die leeren direktiven raus. und das ls-alh noch bitte.
[10:48] <Guest87951> http://pastebin.com/sFt9n19X
[10:48] <Guest87951> nochmal beides
[10:50] <Guest87951> hier noch die datei welche ich aufrufe ("-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 32K Nov 9 09:30 cpp-tutorial-objectDetection")
[10:50] <LetoThe2nd> setz mal chmod a+x auf den starter.
[10:50] <Guest87951> bringt leider nichts
[10:51] <geser> welcher Aufruf steht im Starter?
[10:51] <geser> ah, sehe ich im pastebin
[10:51] <Guest87951> wollt grad sagen ;)
[10:53] <gugaua> ich habe eine Frage, Ich hab ein Master Master Mysql sync ohne Daten... Mein Ziel ist es Daten reinzuschreiben ohne das die Table gelockt wird wenn ich eine 1GB große Datenbank in Server 1 zu importieren während ich in Server 2 Schreibe.... geht das?
[10:55] <gugaua> zu importieren versuche*
[10:57] <Guest87951> mit dem chmod bringt er mir jetzt "Zeile 1: [Desktop: Kommando nicht gefunden." wenn ich es übers terminal starte
[10:58] <LetoThe2nd> Guest87951: .desktop files kann man nicht direkt im terminal starten. wenn dann musst du nen sheband mit xdg-open vorn dran setzen (sagt zumindest das wiki)
[11:01] <Guest87951> hmm das sagt mir jetzt alles nichts :/
[11:09] <jhu> Hallo, habe Ubuntu 12.04 (Arbeit) und seit heute kann ich weder die Mauseinstellungen ändern (Linkshänder), noch das Tastaturlayout. Beides ist zwar mit Oberfläche möglich, hat aber keinen Effekt. Die Vorschau für Tastaturbelegungen (Keyboard Layout --> Layouts --> Tastaturicon links) zeigt immer ein deutsches Layout an, auch wenn ich z.B. ein US-Layout links ausgewählt habe. Ich verwende Gnome Shell 3.4
[11:10] <jhu> Ideen? Habe schon .gnome* gelöscht und neu gestartet, kein Effekt
[11:10] <jhu> Von mir aus können alle GNOME-Einstellungen zurückgesetzt werden, habe eh nicht viel geändert.
[12:45] <kais3n> Hallo, ist hier jemand, der sich mit ceph, glusterfs drbd nfs Clustern auskennt?
[12:48] <_moep_> das ist schon ziemlich meta^^
[12:48] <_moep_> würde fast darauf tippen, dass dir in den ceph/glusterfs channeln besser geholfen werden kann, weil jmd genau das gleiche problem auch schon mal hatte
[12:49] <_moep_> aber auch da solltest du konkret fragen
[12:49] <kais3n> Hintergund ist folgender
[12:49] <kais3n> Ich hab 6 alte Server rumstehen.
[12:50] <kais3n> Dazu noch 16x37GB SAS + 10x2TB Platten
[12:50] <kais3n> Die würde ich gerne als Storage für eine Xen Server Umgebung hernehmen. Das ganze ist eigentlich nur zum rumspielen
[12:51] <kais3n> Wir hatten die auch schon als NFS Cluster am laufen. Problem hierbei ist nur, dass das NFS nur im asycron schnell ist.
[12:52] <kais3n> Jetzt wollte ich fragen, ob GlusterFS Ceph etc. das richtige ist oder es andere kostenfreie Storage Lösungen auf Linuxbasis gibt
[12:57] <frostschutz> probiers aus
[12:58] <sdx23> kais3n: das sinnvoll zu beurteilen sind deine Anforderungen viel zu schwammig.
[13:26] <kais3n> OK dann versuche ich es anders zu formulieren. Ich hatte mir schon zwei NFS Cluster mit DRBD sync aufgebaut. Lief auch alles. Problem war hier eben nur, wenn eine VM am Schreiben war, war der Performance hinüber, es sei denn man hat den NFS Share async betrieben.
[13:28] <kais3n> Deswegen hab ich mich auf die Suche gemacht, was es für Alternativen gibt. Dabei bin ich eben über GlusterFS und Ceph gestolpert. Leider ist es hier etwas schwierig Informationen zu bekommen, wie was und wo.
[13:28] <kais3n> Wenn jetzt hier jemand wäre, der sich mit dem Thema bereits auseinander gesetzt hat, hätte man etwas Erfahrungen austauschen können.
[13:29] <kais3n> Installation usw. mach ich dann schon selber :)
[15:32] <otto_> hallo
[17:41] <blackboxsilber> tag
[17:43] <jokrebel> lässt sich eine LTS-Distributions-Upgrade auch per do-release-upgrade durchführen?
[18:00] <mrkramps> jokrebel, LTS → LTS?
[18:01] <jokrebel> mrkramps: Ja. Aber scheint er eh korrekt zu machen.
[18:01] <mrkramps> sollte tatsächlich kein problem sein
[18:22] <me_xy> ppq ich habs hinbekommen, das boot-repair hat mir schlussendlich alles kaputt gemacht
[18:23] <me_xy> nacher war weder linux noch windows bootbar
[18:23] <ppq> \o/
[18:23] <me_xy> hab dann mit mit nem usb stick mit ner win10 dvd drauf gebootet
[18:23] <me_xy> dort die konsole aufgemacht
[18:23] <me_xy> wollte das bcd neu erstellen lassen
[18:24] <me_xy> ging nicht weil er sagte dass die id auf mehrere geräte zutrifft
[18:24] <me_xy> hab dann festgestellt dass die system und die efi partition beide die gleiche guid haben
[18:24] <me_xy> und zwar der efi partition
[18:25] <me_xy> hab dann die efi partition gelöscht, mit diskpart die id der system partition richtig gesetzt und dann die efi partition neu angelegt und das bcd neu erstellen lassen
[18:25] <me_xy> quasi ne operation am offenen herzen
[18:25] <me_xy> ohne backup
[18:25] <ppq> jo, backups sind ja auch was für weicheier
[18:25] <ppq> :)
[18:26] <me_xy> naja, die alte disk gabs schon noch, die daten habe ich aber nur noch auf der neuen gehabt, das system wäre noch auf der alten disk gewesen, die ist aber schon bei meinem vater
[18:26] <me_xy> und ja das wäre 3stunden weg zu ihm
[18:37] <jokrebel> Merke: Nie Schritt 2 vor Schritt 1 tun ;-)
[18:49] <Diomedes> Hey. Jemand hier, der Windows in einer VM mit VGA Passthrough betreibt?
[18:50] <jokrebel> selbst wenn; wo ist der Bezug zu Ubuntu? Diomedes
[18:51] <Diomedes> jokrebel, mit Ubuntu als Host.
[18:52] <jokrebel> Ah, na immerhin. Und das ist welches Ubuntu? Und die VM ist...?
[18:53] <Diomedes> Die Oberfläche sollte dafür relativ unerheblich sein, beim VM-Programm bin ich offen für alles. In Normalfall aber wohl KVM mit Qemu.
[18:54] <Diomedes> Gäbe es sonst einen besseren Kanal dafür? #ubuntu-de-offtopic oder was anderes?
[19:00] <jokrebel> Diomedes: Wenn es noch gar kein konkretes "Problem" damit gibt, sondern das eher eine Umfrage oder Erfahrungsberichtabfrage sein soll, wäre der Offtopic-Kanal sicher besser. Oder halt gleich ein KVM/Quem-Kanal.
[19:02] <Diomedes> Ja, das ist es wohl eher. Das Problem scheint zu sein, dass es kaum Leute gibt, die sowas haben. Und es hat halt was mit KVM und Qemu zu tun, aber auch mit GRUB, Kernel, Ubuntu und Hardware sowie wahrscheinlich noch einigen anderen Feldern.
[20:22] <jokrebel> an was kann man erkennen wie lange (nach dem Download) die Installation bei einem do-release-upgrade noch brauchen wird?
[20:23] <Anf> Guten Abend. Wollte mal fragen, ich hab seit kurzem immer ab und zu eine kleine Fehler meldung "herunterladen von zusätzlichen datendateien schlug fehl Packet: ttf-mscorefonts-installer". Ich hab Wine1.6:i386 installiert, seit dem kommt die Meldung. Aber ich hab keine Fremd Quellen oder ähnliches eingetragen. Wieso können die Daten für das Packet nicht geholt werde?
[20:26] <jokrebel> Anf: Du kennst das Spiel! Bitte die komplette Meldung wenn Du es im Terminal versuchst.
[20:27] <Anf> Was im Terminal Versuche? Ich hab hier nur die Fehlermeldung die regelmässig kommt.
[20:29] <jokrebel> Wenn Du _was_ tust?
[20:29] <bekks> Installier das Paket in einem Terminal, schieb die ganze Fehlermeldung in einen Pastebin.
[20:29] <bekks> Du kennst das.
[20:30] <Anf> ok, das wusste ich nicht. Das ich das Packet installieren versuchen soll, ich dachte man kann es in der Meldung irgendwie lösen.
[20:31] <bekks> Das wusstest Du.
[20:31] <bekks> Das erzählen wir JEDES Mal, wenn du hier mit einem "Fehler" aufschlägst.
[20:31] <bekks> Und es heisst IMMER NOCH "Paket".
[20:32] <ThreeM> es ist wohl montag xD
[20:33] <ThreeM> ich verspühre montagsstimmung
[20:33] <Anf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13210936/
[20:34] <bekks> Ich sehe da keine Fehlermeldung :)
[20:35] <Anf> Im Terminal nicht, ich hab auch geschrieben, das ich eine Fehler Meldung, ein Fester öffnet. Und da die Fehler melldung steht
[20:36] <mrkramps> kann auch keine fehlermeldung dabei geben
[20:36] <mrkramps> das paket wurde sauber installiert
[20:36] <mrkramps> nur das, was das paket eigentlich machen soll, das funktioniert nicht, weil der download der schriftarten mit einer zeitüberschreitung abbricht
[20:37] <Anf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13210953/
[20:37] <mrkramps> das passiert hin und wieder auch mal mit dem flashplugin-installer
[20:37] <mrkramps> einfach das paket einmal neu installieren
[20:38] <Anf> sudo apt-get reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer?
[20:39] <mrkramps> apt-get install --reinstall
[20:39] <mrkramps> aber ansonsten schon der richtige ansatz ;)
[20:40] <Anf> Super, vielen Dank. Werde ich versuche.
[20:41] <agentsoul> ist da ein allegemeines Problem mit dem "Wine Team PPA" unter 15.10 ich kann wine1.7 nicht installieren u.a. wine1.7-amd64 hängt von libgphoto2-port10 ab 15.10 kommt mir port12. Geht das allen so oder hab ich da irgendwo nen Fehler gemacht?
[20:42] <bekks> Dann musst Du dich an die Maintainer des PPA wenden, damit die das beheben.
[20:45] <Anf> Ic hab extra die version 1.6 in 32 bit installiert, den nur mit dieser version läuft MS Office 2007 sauber. Zu der 1.7 Verion kann ich nichts sagen.
[20:47] <agentsoul> ja denen habe ich bereits vor einigen Tagen geschrieben. Die Frage ist ob das ein Problem bei mir ist oder auch andere das haben. Könnte es quasi an mir liegen.
[20:47] <agentsoul> Anf: bei mir umgekehrt ich habe software die nur unter 1.7 läuft
[20:47] <bekks> Die Abhängigkeiten von Paketen werden in den Paketen definiert, nicht auf dem Clientcomputer.
[20:47] <bekks> Es liegt am PPA.
[20:48] <agentsoul> ich dachte an sowas wie aus irgendeinem Grund vesucht es für 15.04 zu installieren oder so etwas
[20:51] <bekks> Welche Paketversion genau wird denn versucht zu installieren?
[20:52] <bekks> also von win1.7 ?
[20:53] <agentsoul> 1:1.7.44-0ubuntu1
[21:01] <mimibuntu> Hallo, habe gerade eine externe Festplatte angeschlossen und wollte einige Daten darauf speichern, doch unglücklicherweise verlangt diese ständig root rechte, sie ist ganz normal eingesteckt und auto gemounted worden
[21:02] <mimibuntu> Gibt es eine Möglichkeit die rechte für die externe Festplatte zu ändern?
[21:02] <mrkramps> mimibuntu, welches dateisystem verwendet die externe festplatte?
[21:03] <mimibuntu> mrkramps: ich vermute das ist fat32, gibt es eine möglichkeit das schnell heraus zu finden?
[21:04] <sdx23> mount | grep media
[21:07] <mimibuntu> also die externe Festplatte ist
[21:07] <mimibuntu> also die externe Festplatte ist hpfs/ntfs/exfat
[21:08] <mimibuntu> fdisk zeigt das zumindest an
[21:08] <bekks> Das ist ein Partitionstype, kein Dateisystem.
[21:10] <nagetier> mimibuntu, was sdx23 sagte
[21:12] <mimibuntu> nagetier: Was davon ist das Dateisystem? /dev/sdb1 on /media/galina/Seagate type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2)
[21:12] <nagetier> vfat
[21:12] <bekks> "type vfat" :P
[21:13] <sdx23> da ist alles korrekt. Wann kommt die Meldung mit den root-Rechten? Wie lautet sie genau?
[21:13] <mimibuntu> bekks: "Das ist ein Partitionstype, kein Dateisystem"? vielleicht verstehe ich ja was falsch verzeihung
[21:14] <bekks> mimibuntu: fdisk zeigt keine Dateisystemtypen an, es zeigt Partitionstypen an.
[23:19] <satorisanja> Guten Abend
[23:32] <satorisanja> Jetzt wird gefeiert!
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-us-tx
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[14:34] <thebwt> Good morning texas!
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.729735
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-nz
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[00:58] <chilts> afternoon
[18:14] <olly> morning
[18:23] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:35] <hads> morning
[20:19] <mwhudson> morning
[21:34] <chilts> morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.732285
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-meeting
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[16:36] <tyhicks> hello
[16:36] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:36] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:36] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Nov 9 16:36:28 2015 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:36] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:36] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:36] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:36] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:36] <tyhicks> Klas Mattsson (klas-mattsson) provided a debdiff for precise for openafs (LP: #1513461)
[16:36] <tyhicks> Otto Kekäläinen (otto) provided debdiffs for trusty-wily for mysqldb (LP: #1512241)
[16:37] <tyhicks> Many thanks for your contributions and assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :)
[16:37] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:37] <tyhicks> jdstrand: you're up
[16:37] <jdstrand> hey
[16:38] <jdstrand> so, I need to arrange travel for an upcoming sprint
[16:38] <jdstrand> I'm also helping interview candidates for FIPS/CC lead (https://ldd.tbe.taleo.net/ldd03/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=1049)
[16:39] <jdstrand> I will be picking up the snappy security policy generation work (reviewing merges to me branch, finishing up the branch)
[16:40] <jdstrand> I have a number of sprint followups too
[16:40] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:40] <mdeslaur> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:40] <mdeslaur> I just released an unzip regression fix
[16:40] <mdeslaur> and I have a number of embargoed issues I'm working on
[16:40] <mdeslaur> tomorrow I get to do patch piloting
[16:40] <mdeslaur> and if I have time, I'll pluck something off the list
[16:40] <mdeslaur> that's about it, sbeattie, you're up
[16:41] <sbeattie> I'm on community this week.
[16:41] <sbeattie> I have an embargoed issue and an openjdk-7 regression fix to do.
[16:42] <sbeattie> I need to contact people to get a test archive rebuild going for the pie work
[16:43] <sbeattie> and that will probably consume most of my week, which will be a bit short (holiday weds, need to swap friday off)
[16:43] <sbeattie> tyhicks: you're up
[16:43] <tyhicks> I'm on bug triage this week
[16:44] <tyhicks> I need to book upcoming sprint travel
[16:44] <tyhicks> I have Ubuntu Core Sprint followups from last week
[16:44] <tyhicks> still getting to the mapplauncherd review and profile development
[16:45] <tyhicks> and then I'll start working on making it easier to create AppArmor policy namespaces and to load AppArmor policy inside of user namespaces
[16:45] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[16:45] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:45] <jjohansen> I am mostly working on apparmor stacking/namespaces
[16:46] <jjohansen> I need to finish up the experiment with the latest of the smack ns patches, and refresh to the set that was just put up
[16:47] <jjohansen> I also have bug 1511791 to finish chasing down
[16:47] <tyhicks> jjohansen: that feels like a bug that I should chase down while you work on stacking
[16:47] <tyhicks> jjohansen: well, unless you feel like it is a kernel issue
[16:48] <jjohansen> tyhicks: feel free, specifically I am just looking at whether it is related to the signal issue I started chasing last week and haven't filed a bug on
[16:48] <jjohansen> I wasn't planning on chasing it into dbus
[16:49] <tyhicks> jjohansen: ok, only do as much on it as determining if it is the same bug as the signal issue
[16:49] <tyhicks> jjohansen: if not, punt it to me
[16:49] <jjohansen> ack
[16:49] <tyhicks> thanks
[16:49] <jjohansen> oh, and that means I should also finish getting together to post the code I put together for testing the signal issue
[16:50] <jjohansen> that is it for /me sarnold_ you are up?
[16:50] <tyhicks> haven't seen him yet
[16:50] <jjohansen> yeah
[16:51] <tyhicks> probably due to DST timing confusion
[16:51] <jjohansen> yep
[16:51] <tyhicks> chrisccoulson: go ahead
[16:51] <chrisccoulson> This week, I've got an embargoed update to do. And possibly also Thunderbird
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> I'll also be working on camera support in the browser for the phone, tidying up the Flash support in Oxide (it works pretty well now) and getting a fork of Chromium in git up and running
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> I think that's me done
[16:54] <tyhicks> thanks!
[16:54] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:54] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:54] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:54] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/parcimonie.html
[16:54] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libguac.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/xbindkeys-config.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gcc-4.8-ppc64el-cross.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/netty.html
[16:55] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:55] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:57] <tyhicks> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, ChrisCoulson: Thanks!
[16:57] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:57] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Nov 9 16:57:08 2015 UTC.
[16:57] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-11-09-16.36.moin.txt
[16:57] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
[16:57] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks
[16:58] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks!
[17:01] <jdstrand> thanks tyhicks :)
[19:00] <chiluk> o/
[19:05] <chiluk> is there going to be a DMB meeting today?
[19:05] <cyphermox> chiluk: hey. we may or may not have quorum yet, checking...
[19:06] <chiluk> ah fantastic. just glad to see I'm not alone.
[19:06] <cyphermox> stgraber: bdmurray: infinity: hey, meeting time.
[19:06] <cyphermox> micahg: xnox: ^
[19:06] * stgraber waves
[19:06] <bdmurray> o/
[19:06] <chiluk> I just realized that I didn't send my application out t lists devel-permissions until a few minutes ago.
[19:07] <cyphermox> it's micah's turn to chair too, but he might not be there
[19:07] <cyphermox> we just need one more.
[19:07] <chiluk> xnox.. come on man.. throw me a bone man.
[19:09] <stgraber> hmm, we do require a week between application and meeting (where application is defined as e-mail to devel-permissions).
[19:09] <chiluk> yeah I just realized that.
[19:10] <stgraber> oh, that's for UCD, I guess that may be fine then. I wouldn't be ready to vote on upload rights but UCD may be fine, assuming we do get quorum.
[19:10] * cyphermox activates the air-horn
[19:10] <chiluk> yeah shame on me.. I'll leave that up to you guys if you want to proceed with the discussion or postpone.
[19:11] <stgraber> yeah, just checked the wiki and I'm fine to vote on it myself.
[19:11] <cyphermox> chiluk: I'm happy to do the discussion and vote today, we just need one more DMB person
[19:11] <chiluk> stgraber... yeah it's just UCD... I have no particular packages that I want ppu rights for...
[19:14] <chiluk> infinity probably just wants plausible deniability..
[19:15] <cyphermox> right now is clearly outside his "timezone" :)
[19:15] <chiluk> you mean 9-5 right?
[19:15] <bdmurray> I think he was taking the day of due to travel etc
[19:15] <chiluk> as in 9-5 in whatever timezone he's currently in.
[19:15] <cyphermox> bdmurray: possibly.
[19:16] <cyphermox> I don't really want to be herding cats for an hour though
[19:16] <cyphermox> xnox: last call?
[19:16] <chiluk> yeah that's fine.. We can postpone for another 2 weeks.
[19:17] <cyphermox> I suppose that is what we'll do
[20:11] <micahg_mobile> !dmb-ping
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-tn
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[17:14] <elacheche> wael, :p
[17:14] <wael> elacheche: o/
[17:14] <wael> twa7echt el irc bech narja3 dima ntoll :3
[17:15] <elacheche> mara7bi :)
[17:16] <wael> :D thx bro
[17:19] <elacheche> El-Beji, 3arif bi nafsik :)
[17:20] <El-Beji> wael but i'm trying to login with my old user name now
[17:20] <elacheche> What a nickname x)
[17:22] <El-Beji> for two years I was called like that so I decided to make it a pseudo
[17:22] <elacheche> :D
[17:22] * elacheche should go home.. See you later
[17:23] <El-Beji> ok
[19:50] <crack3r> les frères sont là
[19:52] <elacheche_anis> salut crack3r :)
[19:52] <crack3r> salut !
[19:53] <elacheche_anis> tu vas bien?
[19:55] <crack3r> hamdoulah et toi
[19:57] <elacheche_anis> ça passe
[20:04] <elachecheBedis> o/
[21:26] * Chikore_ Reading logs /-)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.751033
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-gnome
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[06:36] <darkxst> maintscripts are useless for gdm3 case ;(
[06:36] <darkxst> seems I have to back to the old-school boilerplate code
[06:36] <darkxst> ricotz, ^
[06:37] <darkxst> but the diff at the end of the tunnel must be worth it!
[11:32] <akronix> hi, when compiling gnome-calculator I get the following error: "The name `is_desktop' does not exist in the context "
[11:32] <akronix> why?
[11:59] <mohsen_> Guys I'm not actually using gnome on ubuntu, My problem is with keyboard shurtcuts when I to set them in setting there is no option for selecting shurtcut key on the keyboard
[11:59] <mohsen_> Will you help please?
[12:14] <akronix> me no understand
[12:14] <akronix> you can't set shortcuts?
[12:15] <akronix> ah ok, he left
[12:57] <LinDol> hi all
[13:21] * mgedmin has two "Wired network (vboxnet..." items in his shell system menu
[17:31] <alandipert> hi all, my keyboard stopped working while in gnome and i had to reboot. when i restarted, i saw this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12379861/ubuntu_crash.png
[17:31] <alandipert> anyone know how i can either fix this or recover if it happens again? i'm afraid of losing work because of it
[23:35] <darkxst> alandipert, bug 927636
[23:35] <darkxst> you won't loose any data, it crashes either on boot or shutdown, not during a running session
[23:49] <LinDol> hi all
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.753944
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-server
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[00:08] <MACscr> for those that manage a lot of servers that do not normally have an email server on them. how are you typically handling sending emails from root? just installing postfix? seems a little heavy for the need, but i could easily be wrong
[05:34] <wehde_> does anyone know how to sync apt-cache across servers?
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:44] <jamespage> caribou: hey - around? we're both looking at haproxy problems so might be work chatting on solutions - also been discussing with the debian maintainer as to approach to nbproc > 1
[11:48] <Darkyyy> hello ppl
[16:09] <impermanence> Is it difficult to configure postfix or mail to send email to remote clients? I thought all I would have to do is the minimal install of both and I'd be good but mail seems to only like to be sent from a local user to a local user. What am I missing?
[16:13] <shauno> usually just 'dpkg-reconfigure postfix' and pick the right topology from those offered (bad advice for a proper mailsite, but works really well for a satellite site). although there's things like ssmtp that cater more directly to such uses now
[16:21] <impermanence> @shauno Okay, so I do need to manually configure a bunch of stuff…
[16:21] <impermanence> @shauno I don't care about sec. It's all internal cloud.
[16:37] <Walex> impermanence: that's a bit optimistic...
[16:37] <impermanence> @Walex how so?
[16:37] <impermanence> @Walex oh you mean my cloud comment?
[16:38] <Walex> impermanence: "internal" sometimes is not that internal...
[16:38] <impermanence> @Walex you're right.
[16:39] <Walex> impermanence: anyhow for that 'postfix' stuff a satellite config or 'ssmtp' is good as <shauno> said. the config file will be identical on all hosts: just pointing to the "smart host"
[16:40] <Walex> impermanence: note that sends email to a remote server, not a client, but I guess that was a mistype.
[16:40] <impermanence> @Walex it was. the client in this case is the server. i never know anymore honestly.
[16:41] <Walex> impermanence: something like this looks good: https://www.dnsexit.com/support/mailrelay/postfix.html
[16:42] <Walex> impermanence: similar here: http://www.certdepot.net/smtp-configure-a-mta-with-a-smart-host/
[16:45] <Walex> last time I did this I used 'esmtp' rather than 'ssmtp' can't remember why
[17:01] <herrkin> hello community, I have been having trouble with permissions so badly that I think it has to be something I am not understanding of ubuntu.
[17:02] <herrkin> first it was in apache, I decided to forget about it, I had a symlink to a folder in my home, if I was logged in in the shell it worked perfect, the second I logged out the os it broke saying nobody had permission to go to the page.
[17:02] <herrkin> something oddly similar is happening to me with pm2
[17:02] <TJ-> herrkin: Encrypted home directory maybe?
[17:03] <herrkin> yes, but in the case of apache the apache user is the same as in my home directory
[17:03] <herrkin> there should be no problem, still there is.
[17:03] <herrkin> that was only to illustrat
[17:03] <herrkin> pm2 is giving me a similar error
[17:04] <herrkin> it only works if i am logged into the system
[17:04] <herrkin> if I log out it kills itself
[17:04] <herrkin> if I configure the startup script it never execute
[17:04] <herrkin> I have been arround this for a week, its driving me crazy.
[17:05] <TJ-> encrypted home will make a big difference, since when you log-out the encrypted user home directory is unmounted and the files disappear
[17:05] <herrkin> is there a way to make it keep it mounted?
[17:05] <herrkin> or make another user mount it so it can use it?
[17:06] <TJ-> No. Don't use encrypted user home if you intend a service to access it
[17:06] <TJ-> Or alternatively, move the served content to another directory outside the user's home
[17:06] <teward> i was about to say that lol
[17:06] <teward> :p
[17:06] <jrwren> use byobu to fake always being logged in?
[17:07] <herrkin> byobu?
[17:07] <jrwren> tmux or screen?
[17:07] <jrwren> it leaves a shell running in your homedir. might be enough to prevent the unmount.
[17:07] <jrwren> i don't know how the system decides to unmount the encrypted home
[17:08] <TJ-> In which case why bother encrypting it?
[17:08] <TJ-> jrwren: when there's no user logged in
[17:08] <herrkin> remember I told you I didnt want them to access the files mounting the disk in another machine?
[17:08] <TJ-> the mount/umount is done by pam_ecryptfs
[17:08] <herrkin> thats why :D
[17:08] <jrwren> TJ-: bothering only for FBI raid protection.
[17:08] <TJ-> herrkin: your design is broken then. You can't have it both ways.
[17:09] <herrkin> then its just not possible to deny people accessing files?
[17:09] <jrwren> herrkin: I understand your requirements and I think they are reasonably as long as you are OK with the drawbacks.
[17:09] <herrkin> yeah but I am ignorant about the shell you are sugesting
[17:10] <herrkin> how do I do it?
[17:10] <herrkin> it might be it.
[17:10] <jrwren> herrkin: apt-get install byobu, then when you ssh, run byobu
[17:10] <herrkin> if the home unmounts when I log out then I need a way to keep it alive forever
[17:10] <herrkin> I guess
[17:10] <herrkin> ok just like that?
[17:10] <herrkin> nothing else needed?
[17:10] <jrwren> to logout, don't close byobu by exiting the window, instead, detach with ctrl-a, d, then exit the ssh.
[17:11] <herrkin> oh.. its like a second layer
[17:11] <jrwren> herrkin: byobu is a wrapper around gnu screen or tmux. if you aren't familiar with them, i highly recommend you become so. they are valuable tools.
[17:11] <herrkin> I just keep it running in the background
[17:11] <kirkland> fyi, there's a video demo at byobu.co
[17:11] <jrwren> yes, keeps shells running in bg
[17:12] <herrkin> I will go see it. thanks.
[17:12] <jrwren> kirkland: does it keep an encrypted home fs mounted?
[17:12] <kirkland> jrwren: yes, until you logout all sessions
[17:13] <jrwren> there ya go herrkin. exactly what you want
[17:13] <herrkin> wow that term is amazing.
[17:14] <herrkin> I can have multiple windows, pretty good
[17:14] <impermanence> @Walex Oh hey thanks man. I'm actually kind of surprised at how complicated this is.
[17:14] <jrwren> herrkin: valuable tools? :)
[17:15] <herrkin> ok I will try it, I will be reporting the results
[17:15] <acmehandel> I set up psad on my server and got flooded with messages within minutes.
[17:16] <acmehandel> how do I set it up to where I get 1 summarized message per day?
[17:16] <herrkin> still there is a problem
[17:17] <herrkin> how do I make it start up?
[17:20] <herrkin> jrwren, I think I might have broke something up
[17:20] <herrkin> because I could go in and out before
[17:20] <herrkin> pm2 list and it keept on working
[17:20] <herrkin> no matter if I was logged in or not
[17:21] <herrkin> when I tried to make it start on boot up it screwed that functionality
[17:27] <herrkin> I tried to do ctrl-a,d as suggested, didnt work, it still kill pm2 at logout
[17:27] <herrkin> maybe it also kills byobu
[17:28] <herrkin> it may kill everyting that the user is executing
[17:28] <herrkin> I don't really know
[17:38] <herrkin> TJ-, so you think I should definitely have it without encryption.
[17:38] <herrkin> I would lose the protection of the files :(
[17:56] <herrkin> wow, everybody is gone.
[17:56] <teward> herrkin: or busy or patience, it's lunch at some places
[17:57] <teward> herrkin: TJ- has indicated that you have two goals: protect files, but let services access them.
[17:57] <teward> herrkin: Either move those specific files out of the encrypted home directory and into unencrypted space where it can be accessed by services
[17:57] <teward> or leave a login session running, and your entire home is 'decrypted' per se
[17:58] <herrkin> I tried what you told me
[17:58] <teward> If you're exposing the files to a service anyways, securing the files from being accessed is already out the window
[17:58] <herrkin> no luck
[17:58] <herrkin> it seems the time l
[17:58] <herrkin> I log out it kills byobu too
[17:58] <herrkin> when I log back in its like I have never logged in before
[17:59] <patdk-wk> well, if your using encrypted home folders, ANYTHING that runs as you, should die
[17:59] <patdk-wk> as your home folder will become encrypted when you logout
[18:00] <herrkin> yes, is there a way I can have a session running forever? like a service session?
[18:00] <patdk-wk> servers and encrypted home folders, genrally don't mix
[18:00] <teward> your only option in this case is: (1) don't use encryption, or (2) put the web doc root into unencrypted space
[18:00] <herrkin> I thoght that was what happened with apache and others
[18:00] <teward> agreed with patdk-wk
[18:00] <patdk-wk> FDE and servers mix, but is normally a pain to manage
[18:01] <patdk-wk> what do you mean apache and others?
[18:01] <herrkin> then how could i protect some folders that can only be accessed by services?
[18:01] <teward> herrkin: define 'protect'
[18:01] <herrkin> nobody can grab the code
[18:01] <patdk-wk> encrypted? impossible
[18:01] <teward> herrkin: too late - it's already exposed to the *net if you're using Apache to access it
[18:02] <teward> (theoretically)
[18:02] <herrkin> yes but apache delivers its version of the code, not everything
[18:02] <teward> point missed
[18:02] <herrkin> I mean it serves results, not code
[18:02] <herrkin> yes
[18:02] <teward> herrkin: in theory? set up ACLs for the folders and files
[18:03] <teward> but that can be painful to maintain over time
[18:03] <herrkin> ok lets just resume.
[18:03] <patdk-wk> hmm?
[18:03] <patdk-wk> lets say, your running a php site on your server
[18:03] <herrkin> ok
[18:03] <patdk-wk> and you want to protect the php files from exposure
[18:03] <patdk-wk> it's not possible
[18:04] <patdk-wk> all it takes is ANY vaunerability in anything that runs under that user, and your exposed
[18:04] <teward> gbah lag
[18:04] <patdk-wk> so any flaw in your php code
[18:04] <patdk-wk> and your exposed
[18:04] <teward> (the last part I was going to say is "That doesn't actually 'hide' the code to the world, really)
[18:04] <teward> patdk-wk: thanks for adding that on, lag / network weirdness disconnected me for a second
[18:04] <herrkin> ok
[18:04] <teward> herrkin: if you want the code to NOT be visible to the world, you don't have it served by a web server or service
[18:04] <patdk-wk> acl's, apparmor, ..., nothing is going protect against that
[18:04] <teward> ^ that
[18:05] <herrkin> so thats a crap lol.
[18:05] <teward> herrkin: you can protect it from other local users, possibly, accessing it, but NOT if it's being served to the web
[18:05] <teward> (I was imprecise earlier)
[18:05] <patdk-wk> generally this is why people go with multible levels
[18:05] <teward> mhm
[18:05] <herrkin> the thing is that I deliver a black box to the client, in theory they should not be allowed to grab anything from the machine
[18:05] <patdk-wk> backend api, frontend webserice
[18:05] <patdk-wk> and nothing you care about on the frontend
[18:05] <patdk-wk> it will limit that attack pretty well, not perfect, but make it damned hard
[18:05] <herrkin> but nothing is stopping them from taking the hdd and mounting it in another maching
[18:05] <teward> herrkin: FDE
[18:05] <herrkin> getting the files and selling my software
[18:05] <teward> full disk encryption would 'prevent' that, per se
[18:06] <teward> but, it's painful to manage
[18:06] <teward> to quote patdk-wk...
[18:06] <teward> [2015-11-09 13:00:47] <patdk-wk> FDE and servers mix, but is normally a pain to manage
[18:06] <herrkin> yes but I would still need to give them the key if they need to reboot the machine
[18:06] <herrkin> thats silly
[18:06] <patdk-wk> no
[18:06] <patdk-wk> why is it silly?
[18:06] <patdk-wk> I do it
[18:06] <patdk-wk> and I do it automated, most reboots are automatic
[18:06] <herrkin> give the encryption key to them?
[18:06] <patdk-wk> yes
[18:07] <herrkin> why would you do that?
[18:07] <patdk-wk> heh?
[18:07] <herrkin> if thats what you are avoiding in the first place?
[18:07] <patdk-wk> hmm?
[18:07] <patdk-wk> how do you unencrypt a system that is encrypted without a key?
[18:07] <herrkin> I mean if they have the encryption key they can get everything from the system, cant they?
[18:07] <teward> herrkin: it sounds like you are giving a client a black box, but then not wanting them to be able to use it / install it / reboot it without calling you to come in and reboot everything
[18:07] <herrkin> its like its not encrypted
[18:07] <patdk-wk> herrkin, heh? I have to give it the key on each boot
[18:08] <patdk-wk> no exceptions or work arounds
[18:08] <teward> patdk-wk: i think herrkin wants to give the client the box and NOT give the client the key, so they can't access the files on the devices
[18:08] <teward> which makes zero sense
[18:08] <patdk-wk> yes, I do the same
[18:08] <patdk-wk> but then you have to give it the key on each reboot
[18:08] <herrkin> all I want is they can reboot the system but not access the files
[18:09] <teward> herrkin: mutually exclusive options
[18:09] <patdk-wk> won't happen
[18:09] <herrkin> it seems impossible as you say
[18:09] <teward> herrkin: you get one, or the other
[18:09] <patdk-wk> herrkin, even if you used FDE that won't happen
[18:09] <teward> either they can reboot the box and put in the key, or, you give the machine the key each boot.
[18:09] <herrkin> if I enctypt the disk and give them the key its like I wasnt enctypting anything
[18:09] <herrkin> so why bother?
[18:09] <patdk-wk> forget all that, your protecting against the wrong thing
[18:09] <teward> ^
[18:10] <patdk-wk> when using FDE, if the server is on, it's as good as vaunerable
[18:10] <patdk-wk> only when it's powered off is it safe
[18:10] <patdk-wk> so yes, they can't remove the drive and reboot
[18:10] <patdk-wk> but they can attack it while it's turned on plunty
[18:10] <herrkin> wow thats frustrating
[18:11] <patdk-wk> if it was simple
[18:11] <patdk-wk> everyone owuld have perfect security
[18:11] <patdk-wk> and there would be no market
[18:11] <herrkin> it seems any system is vulnerable then?
[18:11] <patdk-wk> anything that can be turned on, is
[18:11] <teward> yep
[18:12] <patdk-wk> it's how you want to protect it, and what you want to protect against, that drives up how hard/costly it is to do
[18:12] <patdk-wk> using a tpm module will let you autoreboot
[18:12] <patdk-wk> and will protect against drive removal
[18:12] <patdk-wk> but it won't protect against attacks against that same machine
[18:12] <patdk-wk> or bios issues
[18:12] <herrkin> what is tpm?
[18:13] <teward> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module I think
[18:13] <herrkin> sorry there are some things I have never used so I get confused
[18:13] <patdk-wk> I use tpm's on many things
[18:13] <herrkin> how would it protect against drive removal?
[18:13] <patdk-wk> some with passwords, others without
[18:13] <patdk-wk> the drive is encrypted
[18:13] <patdk-wk> cannot be decrypted without the tpm
[18:14] <patdk-wk> the tpm cannot be removed from that computer
[18:14] <herrkin> patdk-wk, please tell me the way you protect your work
[18:14] <patdk-wk> I don't attempt to protect against the impossible :)
[18:14] <patdk-wk> I am only required to protect against powered-off states
[18:14] <patdk-wk> not powered-on
[18:14] <patdk-wk> fde works great for that
[18:14] <herrkin> exactly
[18:15] <herrkin> all I want is that they cant remove the drive and access it from another machine thus grabbing the files
[18:15] <patdk-wk> use a tpm then
[18:15] <teward> FDE (Full Disk Encryption), + TPM module
[18:15] <patdk-wk> the FDE passcode will be generated and stored in the tpm only
[18:15] <herrkin> and also prevent the grub from changing pass
[18:16] <herrkin> thats another thing I havent been able to do
[18:16] <patdk-wk> heh?
[18:16] <patdk-wk> what does grub have to do with FDE?
[18:16] <herrkin> there was a time when I lost my pass
[18:16] <herrkin> I remember I read on a page that I just go on grub and type some commands
[18:16] <herrkin> I override the root pass
[18:17] <herrkin> I could log to the system
[18:17] <herrkin> that is something I want to prevent too.
[18:17] <patdk-wk> yes, all that requires having the disk
[18:17] <patdk-wk> and we just told you to use fde
[18:17] <herrkin> ok
[18:17] <patdk-wk> if yo uwant to protect against that
[18:17] <herrkin> I will look for that.
[18:17] <patdk-wk> if you want to protect against something when it's *powered-on* and working, that is totally different
[18:17] <teward> i feel like we're going in circles, so I'm going to go get lunch.
[18:18] <patdk-wk> but to protect against powered off, fde+tpm will do the job for you
[18:18] <herrkin> lol.
[18:18] <herrkin> sorry teward
[18:18] <herrkin> good
[18:18] <herrkin> another thing the key sharing.
[18:18] <patdk-wk> key sharing? no idea what that is
[18:18] <herrkin> how you prevent them to grab the files if they have the key?
[18:18] <herrkin> the encryption key
[18:18] <patdk-wk> how would they get the encryption key?
[18:19] <herrkin> you said you would give it to them so they can reboot
[18:19] <patdk-wk> on my systems yes
[18:19] <herrkin> hm..
[18:19] <patdk-wk> but we aren't discussing my system
[18:19] <patdk-wk> but what you need
[18:20] <patdk-wk> for you, a tpm would be perfect
[18:20] <patdk-wk> for me, sometimes tpm
[18:20] <patdk-wk> but I also want to protect against someone stealing my server
[18:20] <herrkin> ok, that way you are telling me it allows to reboot without asking for an encryption key?
[18:20] <patdk-wk> and so my tpm would need a password
[18:20] <patdk-wk> the encryption key is stored in the tpm
[18:20] <herrkin> oh.. great
[18:20] <patdk-wk> if you password the tpm is optional
[18:21] <patdk-wk> if you don't put a password on the tpm
[18:21] <patdk-wk> that drive is now locked to that computer
[18:21] <herrkin> ok, so much to learn
[18:21] <patdk-wk> without that *computer* the drive must be wiped
[18:21] <patdk-wk> tpm's are bound to the system they are put into
[18:21] <patdk-wk> even doing a bios update on it, will cause the tpm to break
[18:22] <herrkin> and changing its hardware does it too?
[18:22] <patdk-wk> motherboard, yes
[18:22] <patdk-wk> other stuff, likely not
[18:22] <herrkin> for example more ram, another nic, whatever
[18:23] <TJ-> Guys, I think the background to this says everything, since it's a continuation of a long-running saga. If I recall correct, the server is owned by, and on the premises of, a customer of herrkin, who installs his proprietary code on said server. herrkin is trying to prevent the customer having any access to the source-code of his application.
[18:23] <herrkin> ok then I will research about tpm fde
[18:24] <TJ-> Last time I recall they wanted log-on/root access to 'change the IP' and we ended up recommending simply putting a cheal router 'in front' of the server so the customer changed the router config, not the server.
[18:24] <herrkin> yes :D
[18:24] <herrkin> that was just an idea, I like that.
[18:25] <TJ-> And before that, when this situation of protecting the code came up, I said it was a pointless endeavour
[18:25] <TJ-> If you don't have trust in a customer don't do business with them
[18:28] <herrkin> yeah its just inevitable. I want to protect from anything. sorry if I am bothering you, I am learning a lot from you.
[18:28] <TJ-> herrkin: the only solution is to host the service off-site where you have full physical control
[18:29] <TJ-> herrkin: you could always do that, and then set up a VPN from your server to the customer's premises, or to the customer server, which simply acts as a proxy - therefore it would not store your code on it
[18:31] <herrkin> that wouldn't be efficient because the internet in my country is a crap. instead some of my clients have several servers to handle local data and then replicate
[18:32] <herrkin> the thing is a matter of availability, internet is either not so good or not available
[18:32] <patdk-wk> ya, I dunno the whole story, just what I ran into the middle of :)
[18:33] <herrkin> so they need to have the server in premises
[18:33] <patdk-wk> but yes, it all come down to what you are protecting against
[18:33] <patdk-wk> but pulling a harddrive out of the box, fde is required, and tpm to do the fde is likely needed in this case
[18:33] <patdk-wk> since you don't want to manage keys
[18:33] <patdk-wk> but to do other kids, it's different
[18:34] <herrkin> yes its seems like the solution.
[18:35] <patdk-wk> kinds
[18:35] <herrkin> oh its a hardware ? lol.
[18:35] <patdk-wk> yes
[18:36] <herrkin> no way, I think I just leave that unprotected, I can't do much about it
[18:36] <herrkin> thanks for clearing it out. sorry for the time wasted. I appreciate it.
[18:36] <patdk-wk> most motherboards support tpm modules
[18:36] <patdk-wk> it's just a chip you plug into the motherboard
[18:36] <patdk-wk> :)
[18:40] <TJ-> herrkin: clearly display your copyright messages in every file, and in the log-on MOTD; that's about the best you can do
[18:41] <herrkin> yes. thanks.
[18:41] <herrkin> honestly I wanted to marry them to our support, if they can gain access the code they can edit it and do what they need.
[18:43] <herrkin> off course we could detect if the code has been changed, and one thing to do is not leave the ssh key of our repository, it could be brutal.
[18:43] <herrkin> its not that I dont trust them, I am just being paranoic lol. anything can hapen.
[18:59] <TJ-> herrkin: you could embed methods that check known cryptographic hashes of the file(s) with live-generated hashes, and cause your service to stop/warn/error if changes are detected
[19:01] <herrkin> hm.. like md5 hash of the files? check sums?
[19:10] <bindi> ubuntu server 14.04, will it run irssi in a screen with 3GB disk space? :P
[19:10] <bindi> i mean sure the wiki page says minimum is 1
[19:11] <bearface_> bindi: it should be able to
[19:34] <herrkin> TJ-, the thing that worries me the most now that its like that is that they could easily see the db password and screw or edit the data at will living us in a horrible possition. I mean some black hat technisian with a will to distroy it, literally could do it.
[19:59] <TJ-> herrkin: if it is their data why worry? if they change it that's their issue, totally outside your responsibility.
[20:57] <herrkin> they could think its a malfunction of the system. (lack of security) they could blame us for that. TJ-
[21:12] <TJ-> herrkin: negoitate sensible terms, in writing, so both parties understand what is an isn't your responsibilty, and what is theres (like not interfering with the code or database, keeping a written log of all access they make to the server, etc.)
[21:12] <herrkin> ok thanks
[21:14] <TJ-> herrkin: ensure the server keeps good logs of everything, and have it forward them to you on a schedule using cron, maybe
[21:16] <herrkin> good what type of logs, access logs?
[21:22] <TJ-> Yes, and database access, any kind of program-controlled access to your running code
[21:31] <herrkin> got it, thanks
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[06:00] <lolll> can someone tell what is my mac addres?
[06:01] <lolll> hello?
[06:02] <lolll> ok bye
[12:57] <Vader> salut
[12:58] <SkyWay> salut vlad
[13:21] <Vader> Vader nu Vlad :))
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[09:29] <Mirv> anything for the meeting?
[09:55] <anpok_> cihelp: we have a problem in unity-system-compositor ci https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-system-compositor-wily-amd64-ci/88/console for some reason the builder is unable to find mirclient via pkg-config (but it does install libmirclient-dev from the mir staging ppa, which has the pc file) this seems to happen in several mps
[09:55] <psivaa> anpok_: looking
[10:09] <anpok_> psivaa: I believe this is a problem in mircookie .. having wrong dependencies
[10:09] <psivaa> anpok_: is this intended to run on wily?
[10:09] <anpok_> vs wily + overlay..
[10:09] <anpok_> ?
[10:10] <psivaa> no, xenial
[10:10] <psivaa> wily vs xenial
[10:12] <anpok_> psivaa: yes, that ci should rather target xenial.
[10:13] <psivaa> anpok_: OK, i'll replace wily jobs for that with xenial ones. It may need to wait for review until my US team members come online
[10:13] <anpok_> I believe the problem is caused by mircookie-dev ..
[10:16] <anpok_> psivaa: we have some private requires dependencies in pkg-config files that werent reflected by dev packages
[10:19] <psivaa> anpok_: That I believe you'll be taking on to fix?
[10:20] <psivaa> anpok_: and you'd want this to target vivid+overlay & xenial, just to confirm?
[10:27] <anpok_> psivaa: yeah .. actually alf_ will fix that through a change in lp:mir and this will be picked up through the mir-staging ppa
[10:27] <anpok_> psivaa: yes.. development target is vivid+o and xenial
[10:28] <psivaa> anpok_: ack, thanks. i'll do the change for targetting xenial
[13:45] <zsombi> cihelp: huston, we have a problem: UITK is preparing to export a shared library (not a QML plugin as we did so far) and the build system generates some intermediate header files for the build time automatically under $BUILD_DIR/include folder. CI faisl continuously on it when checking the copyright https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/migrate_unity8_gestures/+merge/275146
[14:09] <jibel> bfiller, Hi, has gallery app 1271 approved Friday been published ?
[14:09] <bfiller> jibel: I'm building the click now and will upload to store
[14:09] <jibel> more precisely 2.9.1.1271
[14:09] <jibel> bfiller, ok
[14:09] <bfiller> jibel: should be ready soon
[14:10] <bfiller> jibel: will be rev 1245 as that's the latest in trunk
[14:11] <bfiller> I think the versioning of the click in the silo was not correct..
[14:13] <davmor2> popey: I have an issue. Silo 55 is an atempt to fix the issue with webm, but to me the way it fixes it is to simply drop anything that isn't supported, so as the reporter would expect to see videos that you have on the device even if you can't play them? Just trying to think if this is the best way round the issue or not
[14:14] <popey> no, hide stuff you can't play
[14:14] <popey> IMO
[14:15] <davmor2> popey: that's fine then
[14:15] <xavigarcia> trainguards, hey guys... can we start landing things for ota-9?
[14:16] <jibel> xavigarcia, not before final freeze of OTA8
[14:17] <bfiller> popey: mind approving new gallery in the store?
[14:17] <popey> sure thing
[14:18] <xavigarcia> jibel: ok... thanks... when is the final freeze... this week, right?
[14:18] <jibel> xavigarcia, tomorrow night
[14:18] <xavigarcia> jibel: cool, thanks!
[14:19] <popey> bfiller, done
[14:19] <bfiller> popey: thanks, jibel gallery all set
[14:19] <popey> np
[14:24] <josepht> zsombi: Are you able to add a "GENERATED" copyright to those intermediate header files?
[14:24] <zsombi> josepht: nope
[14:25] <zsombi> josepht: and the thing is that this is only for build, the install copies the proper files
[14:26] <josepht> zsombi: another option is to have the built headers be placed in one of the directories the license check ignores: excludedirs="(3rd_party|_build)"
[14:27] <josepht> zsombi: is that possible?
[14:27] <zsombi> josepht: we cannot do that, we must obey upstream structure :/
[14:27] <zsombi> zbenjamin: ^
[14:27] <josepht> zsombi: ack, let me chat with fginther` and see if he has any ideas
[14:32] <zbenjamin> zsombi: ack
[14:43] <fginther> zsombi, those license check failures are not comming from anything added by CI. They are generated by a 'license' target in your project's makefile
[14:43] <fginther> zsombi, the A10checklicenseheaders check that is added by CI runs much earlier and didn't flag any files
[14:43] <zsombi> fginther: yes, but we were wondering whether we shoudl exclude the include path freely from our target, as if we do and CI doesn't then we are async.
[14:44] <zsombi> fginther: aaah, ok... zbenjamin: kalikiana: so we can exclude include freely seems
[14:45] <zbenjamin> zsombi: niiiiice
[14:45] <zsombi> zbenjamin: that works at least... ok, fginther, thx for your help!!!
[14:46] <josepht> zsombi: it looks like tests/license/checklicense.sh has some modification that the A10checklicenseheaders does not and vice-versa
[14:47] <fginther> zsombi, A10checklicenseheaders runs before build so it should never see those intermediate files
[14:47] <zsombi> fginther: ai sire, then we can add the exception freely
[14:47] <zsombi> fginther: josepht: thanks guys!
[14:47] <fginther> zsombi, you're welcome
[14:48] <josepht> zsombi: no problem
[14:57] <kalikiana> fginther: has that A10checklicenseheaders change at one point? I was certain it ran after build as we had some issues with generated files... but I could be mistaken. I don't even know where that script is coming from.
[14:59] <fginther> kalikiana, I think it's always been executed prior to build. I believe there are some projects which have generated files committed to the source tree.
[15:43] <fginther> kalikiana, A10checklicenseheaders comes from lp:pbuilderjenkins
[15:45] <kalikiana> fginther: ah. thanks! I'll have a look. so next time I know better what it does.
[16:12] <balloons> ping cihelp. I'd like to get the old core app jenkins, http://91.189.93.70:8080/, disabled completely
[16:13] <josepht> balloons: I'll add a card to trello for that.
[16:14] <balloons> josepht, thank you. I'm keen to test the backup/restore bits as well, and be done with the old system
[16:14] <josepht> balloons: https://trello.com/c/8wjtCHmW/838-vanguard-disable-old-core-apps-jenkins-http-91-189-93-70-8080
[16:14] <balloons> so you can tear it down complete. . .
[16:17] <josepht> balloons: I've taken all of the slaves offline
[16:32] <balloons> josepht, ack, ty
[16:41] <popey> what landed overnight last night? Terminal app has now got a massive font where it previously didn't.
[16:41] <jibel> popey, I noticed that too, probably something that landed last friday.
[16:42] <popey> my krillin is on r167
[16:42] <jibel> popey, there was a new unity/mir last Friday
[16:42] <popey> is there an easy way for me to see what changed that day?
[16:43] <popey> ah
[16:43] <jibel> popey, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/vivid/20151106.1.changes
[16:44] <popey> thanks
[16:44] <jibel> it's on 167
[16:44] <jibel> I'll try 166
[16:46] <popey> jibel, my nexus 4 is still on r282 (8/11/2015) and shows massive font too
[16:46] <popey> oh, probably same as 166
[16:52] <popey> jibel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/1514519 (cc mhall119 )
[16:55] <popey> is there a landing meeting in 5 mins?
[16:55] <jibel> popey, I don't think so unless you really want to do one
[16:55] <popey> no, just checking because my current call is overrrunning :)
[16:56] <popey> -r
[16:56] <jibel> popey, that's fine, we can skip the landing meeting
[17:04] <jibel> popey, I confirm it's a regression in 167
[17:04] <popey> ok, thanks.
[17:05] <popey> we need a task for whatever it was that landed in that image (i.e. not terminal)
[17:06] <mhall119> thanks popey
[17:07] <jibel> Saviq, bug 1514519 might be due to the unity8/mir landing last friday, can someone have a look?
[17:41] <robru> kenvandine: hey, does the package in silo 0 have autopkgtests?
[17:42] <kenvandine> no
[17:42] <robru> kenvandine: are you aware of any silos that have packages that have autopkgtests? I have some autopkgtest stuff I need to try out in production for the first time
[17:43] <kenvandine> not current silos
[17:43] <robru> k
[17:43] <kenvandine> but if you need to test something, content-hub has tests
[17:44] <kenvandine> we could create a silo to test :)
[17:44] <robru> kenvandine: oh if you can that'd be great
[17:44] <kenvandine> happy to help
[17:44] <robru> thanks
[17:45] <robru> kenvandine: I just have to make some breakfast, can you ping me once the new content-hub silo is built?
[17:45] <kenvandine> robru, sure, after it's built?
[17:45] <jibel> robru, mediascanner2 in silo 55 has autopkgtests
[17:48] <kenvandine> that's good, because bileto blew up when i tried to build content-hub in silo 44 :)
[17:49] <robru> ugh
[17:50] <robru> kenvandine: ok nm I'll fix that quick
[17:50] <robru> jibel: thanks
[17:51] <kenvandine> robru, should i delete the silo?
[17:52] <robru> kenvandine: yeah
[17:52] <rvr> popey: ping
[17:52] <popey> hello rvr
[17:52] <rvr> popey: I tested and approved the calculator update
[17:52] <rvr> popey: Forgot to ping you
[17:52] <popey> Awesomesauce!
[17:52] <popey> Thank you!
[17:52] <popey> That's a great end to my day. Appreciate it!
[17:52] <rvr> popey: I'm now with reminders
[17:53] <popey> ... which could now still go downhill ;)
[17:55] <kenvandine> popey, shutdown your computer and walk away now :)
[17:56] <popey> tempting :)
[17:57] <jibel> robru, do you know why indicator-sound is qa granted since Nov. 5th but not landed? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/528
[18:00] <robru> jibel: 1. nobody ever clicked publish. 2. there's some comment about it needing a rebuild and then no rebuild ever happened, so i doubt the silo is in any kind of releasable state. I'd ask Mirv for more info
[18:00] <robru> or maybe I misread the comment, maybe it is ready...
[18:00] <robru> brb
[18:06] <kenvandine> robru, what's up with the exception in silo 0?
[18:07] <robru> ugh
[18:07] <robru> kenvandine: I've apparently botched this rollout horribly
[18:07] <jibel> alecu, ^^ do you know what it the status of https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/528 and if it is releasable?
[18:07] <kenvandine> :)
[18:09] <robru> kenvandine: what happened was I made an architectural shift and deleted a bunch of methods that I was sure weren't used anymore but apparently they're still used.
[18:09] <robru> kenvandine: fixes in trunk, should hit production in ~10
[18:10] <kenvandine> :)
[18:11] <alecu> jibel: after the QA ack, that silo got NACKd by cyphermox, because it's used in the desktop, but it adds new dependencies that are not in main.
[18:12] <alecu> jibel: we tried splitting the deps because they were only used by the tests during the build
[18:12] <alecu> jibel: but it did not got there in time, and the silo adds many very visible strings, and it was already past string freeze.
[18:13] <alecu> jibel: so, xavi is trying to find a solution for the dependency issues, and then will try to land it very early in the OTA-9 cycle.
[18:14] <robru> kenvandine: oh, but the failure in silo zero happened when it was attempting to mark the silo successfully built, so you can consider silo 0 to be 'Packages built.'
[18:15] <kenvandine> robru, yeah, i already told tiago he can start testing it
[18:21] <jibel> alecu, ah right, forgot all the details. Thanks
[18:21] <alecu> jibel: sure, no worries. I just added a comment about that to the silo
[18:21] <rvr> popey: I cannot create a notebook with a single word as title, needs an space. We had a similar problem with the notes, that was solved.
[18:24] <robru> brb
[18:30] <anpok> davmor2: hm wrt to landing-056 .. there is a problem and it is in usc...
[18:32] <anpok> davmor2: should I add usc to the silo.. or can we land libinput independently (as of now nobody uses it by default)
[18:51] <davmor2> anpok: no because if someone decides to use it and it breaks then it is no use to anyone, better that it lands fully fixed
[18:58] <robru> slangasek: skip landing team meeting since sil is off and we just had a sprint anyway?
[19:01] <slangasek> robru: yah
[19:02] <robru> k
[19:06] <robru> brb again
[19:26] <boiko> trainguards: can someone please trigger an amd64 rebuild of telephony-service in silo 25?
[19:33] <robru> boiko: one sec
[19:34] <boiko> robru: thanks
[19:36] <robru> boiko: you're welcome!
[21:01] <jgdx> alesage, hey, what's the cursor insertion pattern? :)
[21:02] <alesage> jgdx, find myself backspacing through an existing entry in order to enter a new #
[21:03] <alesage> jgdx, don't know if we have a better pattern for that, e.g. full highlight
[21:03] <alesage> jgdx, but again this is me being a cranky QE :)
[21:17] <jgdx> alesage, are we talking System Settings?
[21:18] <alesage> jgdx, yes in the call-waiting/forwarding entries
[21:18] <jgdx> alesage, oh, why'd you need a #?
[21:18] <jgdx> lol number
[21:18] <jgdx> right.. it's late here :p
[21:19] <jgdx> alesage, if you file a bug for it, I'm sure design will take another look at the spec.
[21:19] <alesage> jgdx, an entry exists, e.g., but my desired forwarding number has changed, e.g.
[21:19] <alesage> jgdx, ack, maybe a bit too finicky even for a bug
[23:15] <robru> slangasek: hey can you bump the priority of this rt? A couple things i need to do are blocked by this https://portal.admin.canonical.com/86110
[23:37] <Trevinho> robru: it looks like ci-train has some troubles in loading here... ANd i got a "0 error"
[23:38] <robru> Trevinho: what url?
[23:38] <Trevinho> robru: on create first then on main
[23:39] <robru> Trevinho: what do you mean? were you not able to make a new request at all?
[23:39] <Trevinho> robru: it went ok now, but before it didn't go
[23:39] <Trevinho> robru: yep, it hanged...
[23:40] <slangasek> robru: what specifically is this blocking?
[23:41] <robru> slangasek: the staging instance can't be deployed because it tries to install those packages and fails in trusty
[23:41] <robru> slangasek: also means I can't do production rollouts...
[23:41] <slangasek> robru: er, but that can be fixed by backing out your change to trunk
[23:41] <slangasek> so should not block you
[23:42] <slangasek> and I wouldn't think those changes should be landed to trunk before they're deployable (i.e. the RT should be done first)
[23:43] <robru> slangasek: ok, but that RT says itself it's a small amount of work and I filed it thursday. would be great if that could just go in
[23:43] <robru> rather than undoing work I've already done
[23:44] <robru> Trevinho: sounds intermittent, like a network issue. looks like you have the request no?
[23:44] <slangasek> robru: that is nevertheless not an argument for bumping the priority for the ticket - which for me to do, I want to understand what functionality is tied to these new dependencies so I can set a proper priority
[23:45] <robru> slangasek: it's just to do with gating MPs to trunk with pylint. that part is already set up and working in s-jenkins (because s-jenkins uses our backport PPA rather than trusty-cat-ue)
[23:45] <robru> slangasek: doesn't actually add any features or anything to production, it's just that the charm installs all those deps and breaks in production
[23:48] <slangasek> robru: well, then I definitely think you should back it out of trunk instead of us raising the priority of an RT
[23:48] <robru> slangasek: ok
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[00:37] <jabuk> M 1.1 > 7.km SZ od ZAGREBA (HRVAŠKA) @09/11/2015 01:22:04 https://maps.google.com/?q=45.86+N,+15.93+E
[07:05] <napsy> jutro
[07:47] <Sky[x]> lp
[08:25] <yang> Boli me kita za Irak i Iran, oni se kokaju a ja sam miran. -- Bora Djordjevic
[08:31] <napsy> he sux
[08:33] <CrazyLemon> sux kita?
[08:38] <yang> Necu dugo biti momak, mojoj maloj raste stomak. Bog te jebo, nisam trebo. Da sam znao, ja bi stao. -- Bora
[08:39] <napsy> I don't get it
[08:40] <yang> a ne razumes srbscine ?
[08:40] <napsy> en mal
[08:41] <napsy> ko sem bil mali, sem se redil, jebiga ni mi blo treba .. ce bi vedu bi stal?
[08:42] <napsy> tolk o moji srbscini :)
[08:42] <napsy> sicer pa nikol nism stekal balkanskih vicev
[08:43] <napsy> ponavad je blo tak, en ga pove pa so vsi, like, rofl
[08:43] <napsy> js pa ... m'kay whatevah
[08:44] <yang> Drugovi iz stare garde, gde cuvate milijarde ?
[08:44] <yang> napsy ja v glavnen tvoje razumevanje srbscine je slabo
[08:45] <napsy> jap
[08:45] <napsy> no pa tut ce mi kdo prevede, ne stekam
[08:49] <yang> napsy kupi si stare alan forde ali poisci pdfje, se bos malo jezika naucil.
[08:49] <napsy> nevem ce mi je ravno v interesu
[09:05] <pitastrudl> jutro
[09:05] <pitastrudl> ubuntu se mi je povezoval na telemachov wifi avtomatsko ob bootu, in ko sem se loginal mi je krešalo cel ubuntu :-D
[09:06] <pitastrudl> sm se mogu disconketat od telemacha da mi je nehu krešat ob loginu
[09:06] <napsy> sistem ti je zamrznu?
[09:07] <pitastrudl> ne pač loginal sem se, in se prikaže desktop in je krešnil nazaj na login screen
[09:07] <napsy> aja
[09:07] <napsy> x se ti je sesul
[09:07] <pitastrudl> x?
[09:07] <napsy> x server
[09:07] <pitastrudl> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[09:08] <napsy> kero graficno pa mas?
[09:08] <pitastrudl> telemach wifi je bil povzročitelj verig dogodkov,ki je sledilo temu
[09:08] <pitastrudl> System: Host: arun-HP-ProBook-6560b Kernel: 3.19.0-30-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Desktop: Unity 7.2.5 Distro: Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Machine: System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP ProBook 6560b version: A0001D02
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1619 version: KBC Version 97.4E
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: 68SCE Ver. F.60 date: 03/12/2015
[09:08] <pitastrudl> CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5-2410M CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Clock Speeds: 1: 876 MHz 2: 899 MHz 3: 845 MHz 4: 1894 MHz
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Graphics: Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Display Server: X.Org 1.17.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: [email protected]
[09:08] <pitastrudl> GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.5.9
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Network: Card: Intel 82579V Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e -1
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Card: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter driver: bcma-pci-bridge -2
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (12.4% used)
[09:08] <napsy> hm intel
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Info: Processes: 243 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 1645.1/3886.1MB
[09:08] <pitastrudl> Client: Quassel v0.12.2 (dist-9c5e6c6) inxi: 2.1.2
[09:08] <napsy> oh lord
[09:08] <pitastrudl> ops
[09:08] <pitastrudl> sry
[09:08] <pitastrudl> D:
[09:08] <pitastrudl> wrong arguments
[09:08] <napsy> intel ponavad kr dobr delajo
[09:08] <pitastrudl> D:
[09:09] <pitastrudl> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[09:09] <CrazyLemon> kaj pravi dmesg? sej ne rabiš skopirat sam poglej kaj pravi :)
[09:11] <pitastrudl> https://gist.github.com/pitastrudl/198a84b3b845806b11de
[09:11] <Pepelka> gist:198a84b3b845806b11de · GitHub
[09:12] <napsy> stakn ven telefon
[09:13] <napsy> [ 11.442239] lpc_ich: Resource conflict(s) found affecting gpio_ich
[09:13] <pitastrudl> pa sej prej nism meu telefona notr
[09:13] <pitastrudl> to ga zdl sam filam
[09:14] <napsy> aja ok
[09:14] <napsy> [ 11.442209] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000428-0x000000000000042f conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000400-0x000000000000047f (\PMIO) (20141107/utaddress-258)
[09:14] <pitastrudl> :D
[09:14] <napsy> to tut mogoc zna bit tezava
[09:14] <pitastrudl> was ist das
[09:14] <napsy> weirdness
[09:15] <pitastrudl> ¯\(°_o)/¯
[09:29] <dz0ny> ich je main controller, zgleda da se kregajo graficna, sata krmilnik pa se kaj :D
[09:30] <dz0ny> pitastrudl: 32mb ram
[09:30] <dz0ny> daj graficni
[09:30] <dz0ny> ponovi vajo
[09:30] <dz0ny> sam tist naslov je soo low
[09:30] <pitastrudl> what
[09:30] <pitastrudl> uhhh
[09:31] <pitastrudl> kako naj dodam ram dz0ny, kako sistem nebi uproabljal kolikor je na voljo?
[09:31] <dz0ny> 0x0000000000000428 je nizje kot pa linux boot entry point v memory
[09:31] <dz0ny> pitastrudl: trej tvoja graficna si deli ram z cpu
[09:31] <pitastrudl> lel
[09:31] <dz0ny> v biosu lahko nastaviš več ali manj
[09:31] <pitastrudl> i see
[09:31] <pitastrudl> ok, ty
[09:32] <dz0ny> zanima me sam al se krega to al kaj drugega
[09:33] <dz0ny> a maš tud ločeno grafično not?
[09:33] <dz0ny> yep
[09:33] <dz0ny> amdish
[09:34] <dz0ny> kaj imaš v /var/log/xorg
[09:34] <dz0ny> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:34] <dz0ny> po crashu
[09:35] <dz0ny> napsy: PMIO je accelerated intel storage control point
[09:36] <napsy> ok, to mi je prvo padlo v oci
[09:36] <dz0ny> v windows mas en driver ki na ta naslov nalozi nek fw blob za sata
[09:37] <dz0ny> tko kot se patcha cpu
[09:37] <dz0ny> sam to je se za sata in ostale zadeve
[09:39] <pitastrudl> dz0ny: samo integirrana je notri
[09:40] <dz0ny> namesti indel graphics driver
[09:41] <dz0ny> mat ima istu cpu sam od dell in se je xorg skozi crashal
[09:41] <pitastrudl> https://gist.github.com/pitastrudl/de7f172f317285a74b8f
[09:41] <Pepelka> gist:de7f172f317285a74b8f · GitHub
[09:41] <pitastrudl> to je xorg.0.log dz0ny
[10:14] <msev-> A ce je nek program napisan za raspbian ga vseen lah laufam v ubuntuju - https://github.com/tedsluis/dump1090
[10:14] <Pepelka> tedsluis/dump1090 · GitHub
[10:14] <Pepelka> »dump1090 - Dump1090 is a simple Mode S decoder for RTLSDR devices«
[10:34] <CrazyLemon> msev- ce ga zbuildas za x64/x86 i guess you could.. sam tale .deb je pa za armhf zbuildan
[10:34] <CrazyLemon> poskusi je bela cesta!
[10:34] <msev-> Aja
[10:35] <msev-> Ga bom zbildov poj
[10:38] <msev-> A drgac ce mam dve verziji tega. Seprav original dump zbildan, pa ce se tega zbildam a bo ksn problem
[10:50] <upd> http://www.rtvslo.si/news-in-english/slovenians-first-in-the-world-with-licence-for-conversion-of-euro-and-bitcoin/378217
[10:50] <Pepelka> Slovenians first in the world with licence for conversion of euro and bitcoin :: Prvi interaktivni multimedijski portal, MMC RTV Slovenija
[10:50] <Pepelka> »Startup company Cashila is the first in the world to obtain a bank licence for conversion of digital currency bitcoin and euros with the purpose of competing with the Swift system.«
[11:12] <zdobersek> why not cashilla
[11:13] <zdobersek> and how could they possibly beat TayTay
[12:53] <slax0r> jutro
[12:54] <Matthai> hoj, a kdo ve, zakaj mi javlja tole: E: Datoteka Release za http://ftp.arnes.si/pub/packages/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/Release je potekla (neveljavna od 1d 16h 3min 30s). Posodobitev za to skladišče ne bo uveljavljena.
[12:55] <CrazyLemon> če odpreš link piše Valid-Until: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 20:50:09 UTC tko da..verjetno zato
[12:56] <slax0r> a ni wheezy ze like, ancient?
[12:57] <idioterna> je ja
[12:57] <CrazyLemon> ampak to je wheezy-updates!
[12:57] <idioterna> so ancient, in fact, you could probably refine it into gasoline
[12:59] <CrazyLemon> Matthai počakaj da se arnes spet posynca pa se bo verjetno težava odpravila
[12:59] <CrazyLemon> ali pa uporabi en drug repo
[13:01] <zdobbie> a je dons insurgency v planu
[13:01] <zdobbie> da vem, ce moram stisnit urco spanja prej noter
[13:05] <CrazyLemon> lol
[13:05] <CrazyLemon> ja..kr pejt prej spat da boš čil za insurgency :p
[13:06] <Pepelka> [Web Upd8] Andrew: Audacious 3.7 Released, Available In PPA http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/dA-xV0XkRek/audacious-37-released-available-in-ppa.html
[14:08] <CrazyLemon> http://www.enaa.com/oddelki/telefonija/izd_13824_evsmplgx001_mobilni_telefon_lg_nexus_5x_crn
[14:08] <Pepelka> Mobilni telefon LG Nexus 5X �rn 16GB EU | EnaA.com
[14:08] <Pepelka> »Mobilni telefon LG Nexus 5X �rn 16GB EU lahko najugodneje kupite na EnaA.com. Sodoben prijazen nakup Mobilni telefon LG Nexus 5X �rn 16GB EU. Zagotovljena hitra in zanesljiva dostava na va� naslov.«
[14:08] <CrazyLemon> holy sh1t man..600€ za nexusa
[14:08] <CrazyLemon> 550*
[14:09] <zdobbie> 6P?
[14:11] <CrazyLemon> glede na to kakšno ceno ima nexus 5x v sloveniji bo 6p tam okrog 750 :D
[14:11] <Pepelka> [Web Upd8] Andrew: `Albert` Quicklauncher PPA Packages Updated http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/webupd8/~3/5gJXzz3zo7g/albert-quicklauncher-ppa-packages.html
[14:12] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie a boš kupil 6p?
[14:24] <zdobbie> muybe
[14:24] <zdobbie> ce bo rootable
[14:27] <CrazyLemon> you such a hacker man..you can root it we trust you man!
[14:27] <CrazyLemon> !g gethuawei 6p
[14:27] <Pepelka> Nexus 6P - Huawei Official Store http://www.gethuawei.com/nexus6p
[14:27] <CrazyLemon> .pretvori 500 usd eur
[14:27] <jabuk> CrazyLemon: 500 USD je 464.00 EUR
[14:28] <CrazyLemon> ^
[14:28] <zdobbie> ma ne
[14:28] <zdobbie> poanta ni v tem, ce ga lahko
[14:28] <zdobbie> seveda ga lahko
[14:29] <zdobbie> I mean, cmon
[14:29] <zdobbie> varka je v tem, ce ga _smem_
[14:29] <CrazyLemon> kaj je pol poanta..do enlighten us oh yee full of ...light
[14:29] <CrazyLemon> aha
[14:29] <CrazyLemon> seveda ne
[14:30] <zdobbie> roota se ga seveda za to, da gor nalozim poljuben sistem
[14:30] <zdobbie> *wink wink*
[14:30] <CrazyLemon> ubuntu for phones ane... aww <3
[14:32] <zdobbie> lol no
[14:32] <jabuk> https://i.imgur.com/BiSkH5D.png
[14:40] <pitastrudl> zato nemorm več kupovat samsungov zarad HWja
[14:40] <pitastrudl> takoj k hočš dat rom gor
[14:40] <pitastrudl> rip warranty
[14:40] <pitastrudl> zato bi pa nexusa mel sam ja...
[14:40] <pitastrudl> rip money
[14:40] <pitastrudl> might as well sell my kindeys
[14:43] <yang> ledvico bi prodal da bi nexusa kupil, svasta
[15:00] <slax0r> pitastrudl: to pa ni cist res...
[15:00] <pitastrudl> wat
[15:00] <pitastrudl> ja lahk rootaš, kaj pa romi?
[15:00] <slax0r> da zgubis warranty ce das custom rom gor
[15:00] <pitastrudl> se da obiti knox?
[15:00] <slax0r> odvisno od napake kasneje
[15:00] <slax0r> ne, se ne da
[15:01] <pitastrudl> no, potem se trinpe "števec"
[15:01] <pitastrudl> afaik
[15:01] <pitastrudl> tripne*
[15:01] <slax0r> definitivno je bolj ziher ce ne das custom rom
[15:01] <slax0r> ampak se da tut prek garancije porihtat pa ceprav je knox na 1
[15:01] <pitastrudl> ja nevem, nebi riskeru
[15:01] <pitastrudl> nisem še bil prepričan če se res da
[15:01] <slax0r> meh, samsung je itak... gnus...
[15:02] <pitastrudl> mam S4, mi dela vredu že zadnje dve leti
[15:02] <pitastrudl> pa pol
[15:02] <slax0r> meni ni delal vredu ze od prvega dneva
[15:02] <slax0r> kr neki sem morla rebootat
[15:03] <slax0r> ker ni delal al bluetooth
[15:03] <slax0r> al gps
[15:03] <slax0r> al se wlan ni povezal
[15:03] <slax0r> al ni slo klicat
[15:03] <slax0r> al ni slo se javit
[15:03] <slax0r> itd itd
[15:03] <slax0r> sm dal potem CM gor, pa je blo bols, sam se vseen ne tk kot bi moral bit
[15:04] <pitastrudl> jaz sem imel TouchJizz gor 2 uri od nakupa
[15:04] <pitastrudl> se pravi od trgovine, dokler nisem recoverya dal gor
[15:04] <pitastrudl> :P
[15:04] <slax0r> saj ga ne mores odstranit
[15:04] <slax0r> ker je v rom zapecen
[15:04] <pitastrudl> česa
[15:04] <slax0r> touchwizz
[15:04] <pitastrudl> lmao
[15:04] <pitastrudl> wat
[15:04] <slax0r> a ni del roma?
[15:04] <pitastrudl> ne
[15:05] <slax0r> sam mislim da ce si dal custom recovery gor, si ze butnil knox ^^
[15:05] <pitastrudl> knox je prišel leto po izidu s4
[15:05] <pitastrudl> :)
[15:05] <pitastrudl> sem imel custom rom gor
[15:05] <pitastrudl> tko da nisem dobil updejta za knox
[15:05] <pitastrudl> tko da sem lepo fural knoxless bootloader dokler ni garancija šla
[15:06] <pitastrudl> pol ko je blo konec garancije sem pa updejtal bootloader da sm lahko gor dal lolipop brez problemov
[15:06] <slax0r> ah
[15:06] <pitastrudl> ja, sm meu srečo
[15:06] <slax0r> no pol pa tak nimas garancije vec
[15:06] <pitastrudl> :D
[15:06] <slax0r> custom rom
[15:06] <pitastrudl> fora je da bi lahk dal nazaj vse
[15:06] <pitastrudl> pa bi zgledalo kot da nisem imel gor nič
[15:06] <pitastrudl> samo če bi imel knox
[15:06] <pitastrudl> pol nebi morel
[15:07] <pitastrudl> :)
[15:07] <slax0r> jp
[16:42] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie http://www.expansys.si/s.aspx?search=nexus%206p
[16:42] <Pepelka> Zadetki za iskanje: "nexus 6p" - EXPANSYS Slovenija
[16:46] <zdobersek> na ja
[16:53] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: zdobersek
[16:54] <CrazyLemon> idioterna zdobersek
[16:54] <idioterna> feeling violent?
[16:54] <CrazyLemon> idioterna right now? not really.. pretty mellow
[16:58] <zdobbie> enumal
[17:03] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie hitro pejt na power nap!
[17:03] <CrazyLemon> js bom itak prej mogu še pico narest and stuff like that
[17:04] <zdobbie> zle sem se ze v csgo ogrel
[17:04] <zdobbie> tko da
[17:05] <idioterna> no, js grem preklopt
[17:05] <idioterna> na gamerski monitor
[17:05] <idioterna> bbl
[17:06] <CrazyLemon> ja zdobbie upam da si vadil met incendiary pa granat
[17:06] <CrazyLemon> pa molotovk :>
[17:06] <Sky[x]> ma kdo kako idejo kako bi lahko dobil podatke iz zunanjega diska na katerem lucka se gori ko ga prikljucis na win/osx samo nikjer pa ga ne zazna?
[17:06] <jabuk> http://cdn-media.hollywood.com/images/l/victory_620_080712.jpg
[17:07] <zdobbie> lol
[17:07] <CrazyLemon> a vam izpiše statse na glavnem zaslonu? tam zravn avatarja?
[17:09] <idioterna> dunnoo
[17:09] <idioterna> dunno
[17:09] <Sky[x]> pa slisi se da se glava vrti
[17:11] <idioterna> CrazyLemon: zdobbie, mi smo not
[17:12] <idioterna> k bosta jezna na begunce kr joinejta :)
[17:18] <zdobbie> the f
[17:21] <idioterna> ja a niso to begunci
[17:21] <idioterna> k majo brisace na glavi
[17:21] <idioterna> js jih skos za krstne liste sprasuje,
[17:21] <idioterna> m
[17:21] <zdobbie> migranjte mogoce?
[17:21] <zdobbie> wannabe Hitlar
[17:30] <CrazyLemon> insurgents!
[17:36] <idioterna> no to ja
[17:36] <idioterna> teruristi
[18:29] <zdobbie> kter backstabbere
[18:29] <idioterna> kdo?
[18:29] <idioterna> a ste nehal?
[18:29] <CrazyLemon> ja..tvoji so se pobral
[18:29] <idioterna> aha
[18:30] <idioterna> js neki popravlam
[18:30] <zdobbie> ce je prsu en migrant k se je spawnu vzadej
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> get used to it!
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> kdo je pa tist soviet?
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> tudi migrant? :9
[18:33] <zdobbie> muybe
[18:33] <idioterna> soviet je nek britanc al kva
[18:33] <idioterna> a pommie
[18:37] <CrazyLemon> ja
[18:37] <CrazyLemon> ne..spaghetti
[18:46] <idioterna> ja
[18:46] <idioterna> sej to je biu ta
[18:46] <idioterna> sovietspaghetti
[18:46] <idioterna> some weirdo :)
[18:46] <CrazyLemon> zakaj imam Release.key v ~ ?
[18:46] <CrazyLemon> in kako ugotovim čigav je ta pgp key
[18:47] <CrazyLemon> -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
[18:47] <CrazyLemon> Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux)
[18:48] <zdobbie> mogoc bos ransomware potegnu dol v naslednjem updateu
[18:49] <CrazyLemon> fingers crossed!
[19:07] <zdobbie> pingejte, ce boste se kej fural safer
[19:17] <lynxlynxlynx> kaj to špilate?
[19:18] <CrazyLemon> !g insurgency
[19:18] <Pepelka> Insurgency on Steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/222880/
[19:18] <CrazyLemon> !g insurgency humble bundle
[19:18] <Pepelka> Buy Insurgency from the Humble Store. - Humble Bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/insurgency_storefront
[19:25] <lynxlynxlynx> ah
[19:28] <idioterna> strjelama se
[19:28] <idioterna> nemce pa partizane :)
[19:34] <zdobersek> ratatatatata
[19:44] <netkat> sami pacifisti:P
[19:45] <idioterna> ja sej mene skos zmerjajo da zakaj nc ne strelam
[19:45] <idioterna> Matthai: joj, dns
[19:45] <idioterna> takoj
[19:46] <netkat> idioterna pobij jih, cim vec jih dej:D
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> idioterna se kr poskuša neki pogovarjat s teroristi pa hoče mediator bit
[19:46] <netkat> hehehhe
[19:46] <netkat> ja pogovor dost resi
[19:46] <CrazyLemon> se strinjam..sam oni ga ne razumejo pol pa začnejo z RPGji streljat
[19:47] <netkat> lol
[19:47] <CrazyLemon> in kdo naj...? jah ostali ki smo tam z njim :(
[19:47] <netkat> ga nekam skrit, d ne dela skode
[19:48] <Matthai> hja, samo ko terorista fajn s knjigo počiš po glavi... se ne pobere več
[19:48] <Matthai> pa ne s Koranom!
[19:49] <netkat> :D
[19:49] <zdobersek> ... biblijo?
[19:51] <zdobersek> ping
[19:51] <jabuk> zdobersek: pong
[19:52] <idioterna> tadebelim knuthom
[19:52] <Matthai> ne, s komentarjem Ustave RS
[19:53] <Matthai> Komentar Ustave Republike Slovenije, urednik: Lovro Šturm, obseg: 1247 strani
[19:53] <Matthai> evo, to bi moralo zadovoljiti še desničarje :-)
[19:53] <zdobersek> c++ technical report
[19:53] <zdobersek> ~1400 strani
[19:53] <speed-> 1250 strani komentarja na naso ustavo?
[19:54] <speed-> na kolikih jepa ustava?
[19:55] <idioterna> Matthai: ana. sm ti dodal
[19:55] <idioterna> prav kaze
[19:55] <Matthai> idioterna, ok, kdaj pa to vidim? oz. kdaj se refresha?
[19:55] <idioterna> zdele
[19:55] <idioterna> mislim, ce si poskusil, potem bo do 2 uri se narobe
[19:55] <idioterna> ce nisi bo pa prav
[19:55] <Matthai> aha.. sem :-/
[20:29] <pitastrudl> http://i.imgur.com/PC5XIld.png
[20:29] <pitastrudl> rabi kdo kupone
[20:29] <pitastrudl> za steam
[20:30] <idioterna> a zgledamo ko kuponkoti :)
[20:31] <pitastrudl> lo
[20:31] <pitastrudl> lol
[20:32] <pitastrudl> pač popust na špil
[20:32] <pitastrudl> js jih nerabm
[20:41] <idioterna> ma, ce bi kej nucal bi reku, pa nism nek gamer :)
[20:44] <CrazyLemon> i've seen your grenade throwing skillz..you a pro bro!
[20:47] <idioterna> totally ja
[20:47] <idioterna> "daj glavco!"
[20:49] <msev-> To pa res svaka cast k za granato lepo vrzt je treba res met skill
[20:51] <idioterna> ja za tko k jih js mecem rabs res kr skill ja
[20:51] <idioterna> postavu sm se pred stenge
[20:52] <idioterna> in namest da bi dol vrgu sm zadel v skarpo in dobu pod noge en un
[20:52] <idioterna> incendiary
[20:52] <idioterna> in pol "omg" vzamem nasledno
[20:52] <idioterna> in vrzem
[20:52] <idioterna> in vidm da je flash, ampak se prepozn obrnem
[20:52] <idioterna> in sm blinded
[20:52] <idioterna> in pol valda rikverc hodm par korakov
[20:52] <idioterna> in se spotaknem na incendiary
[20:52] <idioterna> in umrem.
[20:52] <idioterna> kera poezija, skor vse se na in zacne
[20:52] <pitastrudl> hahaha
[20:52] <CrazyLemon> skillz man.. ker tega ni zmozen vsak
[20:53] <idioterna> jsm se tut tok smeju da nism mogu aimat par minut
[20:54] <msev-> Hahaha
[20:54] <msev-> Si combo naredu
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"channel": "#ubuntu-si"
}
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-africa
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[07:21] <craigbrash> https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/?search=craigbrash&status=&af=&country=ZW
[08:17] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[08:23] <craigbrash> hello Kilos
[08:23] <Kilos> hows craigbrash today
[08:24] <craigbrash> Very hot :)
[12:24] <Kilos> hi lunapersa welcome back
[12:25] <Kilos> yip we supposed to be 37°c today craigbrash but i think its more and even hotter predicyed for tomorrow and wednesday
[12:25] <Kilos> predicted
[12:25] <craigbrash> yes swimming pool when i get home
[12:28] <Kilos> lol
[12:41] <elacheche> :D
[13:53] <lunapersa> Hi kilos
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"craigbrash",
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"channel": "#ubuntu-africa"
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2015-11-09-#ubuntustudio-devel
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[14:34] <zequence> Apparently someone has been nice and translated our ubiquity slides to German. And, probably other languages as well
[14:35] <zequence> Did a German install to double check a possible bu
[14:35] <zequence> bug
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"authors": [
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"channel": "#ubuntustudio-devel"
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[01:51] <Bryanstein> mhall119, ping
[15:01] <mhall119> Bryanstein: pong
[22:18] <aqua-bat> Okay, back.
[22:18] <aqua-bat> I was able to get term going and then xchat.
[22:18] <aqua-bat> Did anyone see my previous text??
[22:19] <aqua-bat> Hmmm...
[22:19] <aqua-bat> Wrong channel, damn
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"Bryanstein",
"aqua-bat",
"mhall119"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/09/%23ubuntu-us-fl.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-us-fl"
}
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2015-11-09-#juju-dev
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[00:29] <davecheney> wow, trying to find somethign that _wont_ marshall into yaml is more complicated than I thought
[00:32] <davecheney> urgh
[00:32] <davecheney> thumper: menn0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13205113/
[00:32] * thumper looks
[00:32] <davecheney> yaml.Marshal returns an error
[00:32] <davecheney> but the code panics ...
[00:32] * menn0 looks
[00:33] <thumper> heh
[00:33] <thumper> because... reasons
[00:35] <davecheney> https://github.com/go-yaml/yaml/issues/144
[00:35] <davecheney> so, to test that writeyaml fails on invalid yaml
[00:35] <davecheney> i have to
[00:35] <davecheney> a. find some invalid yaml
[00:36] <davecheney> b. find some invalid yaml that doesn't crash the library
[00:36] <davecheney> \o/
[00:36] <davecheney> i've checked yaml.v1 and yaml.v2
[00:37] <menn0> davecheney: it looks like panics that are yamlErrors will be turned into errors
[00:37] <menn0> and all others will be allowed to paniuc
[00:38] <menn0> the whole yamlError thing is a crappy way of allowing deeply nested encoding calls to abort the whole process immediately
[00:38] <menn0> a way to get around Go not having exceptions
[00:38] <davecheney> i'm discovering why this function had not test coverage ...
[00:40] <menn0> davecheney: if that panic were a call to the package's fail() func, an error would be returned
[00:49] <davecheney> https://github.com/juju/utils/pull/172
[01:38] <wallyworld_> thumper: could i beg for a small review to address a windows test failure https://github.com/juju/charmrepo/pull/43
[03:15] <wallyworld> thumper: tyvm for the review
[03:16] <thumper> np
[03:17] <thumper> sorry for the delay, was otp for 1:1s
[03:19] <wallyworld> np, long meeting :-)
[03:21] <menn0> thumper: logging doc updates: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3091/
[03:21] <thumper> wallyworld: no, just four in a row
[03:21] <wallyworld> allover and done with for the week :-)
[04:43] <menn0> thumper: super quick one: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3093/
[04:44] <thumper> done
[04:49] <thumper> menn0: hmm
[04:49] <thumper> 88 files changed, +1,050 −2,330
[04:49] <thumper> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3094/
[04:50] <thumper> holy shitballs batman
[04:50] <thumper> I felt it was bad, but didn't realise it was that bad
[04:52] <menn0> thumper: good net line delta though
[04:52] <thumper> hmm... diff is off
[04:52] <thumper> includes previous branch...
[04:53] <thumper> which I though landed already
[04:53] <thumper> this will explain a lot
[04:54] <menn0> thumper: right
[04:54] <menn0> i've got to stop now but might jump back later to review
[04:54] <thumper> not sure why the diff is bad
[04:54] <thumper> don't bother
[04:54] <thumper> I'm stopping too
[04:54] <menn0> i want to get a few other things squared away as well
[04:57] <thumper> menn0: that's better, 43 files, +98 −1,375
[04:57] <thumper> now I'm done
[04:58] <thumper> laters folks
[05:53] <davecheney> http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3095/
[05:53] <davecheney> anyone for a little one ?
[09:25] <wallyworld> fwereade: morning to you. did you have a few minutes to spare a sunburnt bread thief?
[09:34] <fwereade> wallyworld, heyhey
[09:34] <fwereade> sure, joining our hangout
[09:35] <wallyworld> fwereade: on my way
[09:36] <wallyworld> anastasiamac: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/ian-william
[10:02] <frobware> fwereade, standup?
[10:34] <frobware> voidspace, ping, 1:1?
[10:34] <voidspace> frobware: omw
[14:15] <mup> Bug #1514444 opened: Windows github.com/juju/juju/cmd/jujud/dumplogs/dumplogs.go:65: undefined <blocker> <ci> <regression> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514444>
[14:51] <mup> Bug #1514451 opened: TestUniterConfigChangedHook fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514451>
[14:51] <mup> Bug #1514456 opened: Juju is unable to detach root volume <intermittent-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514456>
[14:54] <mup> Bug #1514451 changed: TestUniterConfigChangedHook fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514451>
[14:54] <mup> Bug #1514456 changed: Juju is unable to detach root volume <intermittent-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514456>
[14:57] <mup> Bug #1514451 opened: TestUniterConfigChangedHook fails <ci> <intermittent-failure> <test-failure> <windows> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514451>
[14:57] <mup> Bug #1514456 opened: Juju is unable to detach root volume <intermittent-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514456>
[14:57] <mup> Bug #1514462 opened: Assertion failure in TestAPI2ResultError <ci> <test-failure> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514462>
[15:05] <katco> ericsnow: ut
[15:05] <katco> ?
[15:37] <katco> dimitern: ping, hey do you think you're going to wrap up bug 1483879 soon?
[15:37] <mup> Bug #1483879: MAAS provider: terminate-machine --force or destroy-environment don't DHCP release container IPs <bug-squad> <destroy-machine> <landscape> <maas-provider>
<juju-core:Triaged> <juju-core 1.24:In Progress by dimitern> <juju-core 1.25:In Progress by dimitern> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483879>
[15:38] <dimitern> katco, yes
[15:38] <dimitern> katco, I need another review on it
[15:39] <katco> dimitern: ok, cool :) just trying to figure out if bugsquad moonstone needed to pick it up
[15:39] <dimitern> and was having lots of maas issues, but managed to verify most of the cases at least manually
[15:39] <katco> nice
[15:47] <katco> wwitzel3: hey before you get too far into that bug, can you rebase/merge master into our lxd branch so we can get a bless and prepare for landing?
[15:47] <katco> wwitzel3: "<sinzui> katco: cimmit 1c86f86 is what you want to merge."
[15:47] <wwitzel3> katco: sure
[15:48] <katco> wwitzel3: ty
[15:49] <dimitern> frobware, voidspace, dooferlad, can you please review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3088/ ?
[15:49] <dooferlad> dimitern: *click*
[15:49] <voidspace> dimitern: in a bit if no-one gets to it. Got my head stuck in a bug right now.
[15:50] <dimitern> voidspace, sure, np
[15:51] <voidspace> fixed the test failure I had, now stuck in a different one *grrr*
[15:57] <fwereade> voidspace, do I remember you having familiarity with the rsyslog stuff?
[15:58] <fwereade> voidspace, wondering if you know why the worker apparent deletes the rsyslog config file when the worker stops
[15:58] <voidspace> !!!!!
[15:58] <voidspace> fwereade: no
[15:58] <voidspace> fwereade: it's changed a lot since I worked on it apparently
[15:59] <voidspace> fwereade: I don't think that was done by wwitzel3 and I when we worked on it
[16:00] <voidspace> blame would know though...
[16:00] <fwereade> voidspace, yeah, that's all axw's code from about 18 months ago
[16:01] <fwereade> voidspace, and he probably did it for a reason, but I'm not clear what that reason might be, thought you might have already gone through the digging process
[16:02] <fwereade> voidspace, np, I'll ask him tonight, it's not critical
[16:02] <voidspace> cool
[16:02] <fwereade> voidspace, and moot soon enough what with db-log \o/
[16:02] <alexisb> hey all, happy monday
[16:02] <natefinch> fwereade: that sounds like the code to clean up the agent stuff... there was a bug about that happening when you sigkilled the agent
[16:03] <alexisb> cherylj, katco anything urgent I should be aware of?
[16:03] <alexisb> crawling through the inbox after being out :)
[16:03] <cherylj> alexisb: nothing new that I can think of
[16:03] <cherylj> alexisb: you feeling better today?
[16:03] <fwereade> natefinch, ooh, if there's a reported bug associated I can be a bit grumpier about it ;p
[16:03] <alexisb> cherylj, much! thank you
[16:04] <natefinch> fwereade: I would search for it, but I think i'm being bitten by the launchpad "feature" where it's not searching across series
[16:05] <katco> alexisb: nope
[16:07] <katco> alexisb: glad you're feeling better :)
[16:08] <alexisb> thanks katco
[16:08] <alexisb> thanks to you and the team for keeping things moving in my absence
[16:12] <wwitzel3> katco: I rebased that commit in to our branch, but I'm not sure where it goes now
[16:12] <wwitzel3> katco: there is still conflicts against current master that need to be resolved
[16:13] <katco> wwitzel3: i.e. you're having trouble resolving the conflicts?
[16:13] <wwitzel3> katco: so not sure what to make the PR against
[16:13] <wwitzel3> katco: no, that hash is rebased
[16:13] <wwitzel3> katco: but that hash isn't the current HEAD of master
[16:14] <katco> wwitzel3: oh right. so you've got 1 pr up against the lxd feature branch right?
[16:14] <wwitzel3> katco: no, I rebased, so it won't merge against our feature branch
[16:14] <katco> wwitzel3: ah i see now
[16:15] <katco> wwitzel3: gosh... not actually sure how github handles that? if you propose against the feature branch what does it say? just merge conflicts?
[16:15] <frobware> dimitern, will also take a look in a bit
[16:15] <wwitzel3> katco: yeah, unable to merge
[16:15] <wwitzel3> katco: which makes sense, since I rewrote history
[16:16] <katco> wwitzel3: right
[16:16] <katco> wwitzel3: hrm. maybe just use git to push directly into the FB?
[16:16] <dimitern> frobware, ta!
[16:16] <katco> wwitzel3: and do a force?
[16:17] <katco> ericsnow: natefinch: any opinions on how to tackle this?
[16:17] <frobware> dimitern, I started looking then realised it was quite large and I /think/ I now know why one of my tests fails..
[16:17] <dimitern> frobware, yeah? what was it?
[16:17] <frobware> dimitern, (ha, don't ask). :)
[16:18] <wwitzel3> katco: yeah, I had to force push to my copy of the feature branch to get it up, so the merge exists under my namespace right now
[16:18] <dimitern> frobware, ok :)
[16:18] <katco> wwitzel3: b/c the point is to get a bless of the FB, so skipping the tests might be OK
[16:18] <frobware> dimitern, it was one of those... If only I had taken the dog for a walk earlier... type of bugs. :)
[16:18] <wwitzel3> katco: right, makes sense
[16:19] <dimitern> frobware, right :)
[16:20] <natefinch> wwitzel3, katco: maybe make a new branch off the feature branch and cherry pick what you need (if it's not too many changes). I've had success with that in the past when I get into a bad spot
[16:20] <wwitzel3> natefinch: we need .. a lot
[16:21] <wwitzel3> katco: I don't have permission to do a force anyway ;)
[16:21] <katco> wwitzel3: lol i can take care of it if we think that's the way to go
[16:25] <wwitzel3> katco: well, I could just merge it instead of rebasing
[16:25] <natefinch> katco, wwitzel3: force push onto the feature branch is fine if no one else has outstanding branches against it
[16:25] <katco> wwitzel3: yeah we can do that too. rebasing is nice if we have to come back to anything later, but if it's this much of a PITA maybe merging is the way to go
[16:26] <wwitzel3> I would just force push the feature
[16:26] <katco> wwitzel3: ok. i'll take care of that then
[16:26] <wwitzel3> you brought it up, this is for getting blessed
[16:26] <katco> wwitzel3: ty for rebasing
[16:26] <wwitzel3> katco: np
[16:27] <wwitzel3> very minor, mostly dep.tsv nags
[16:28] <natefinch> fwereade: gota minute to talk? I found another odd bug in my unitassigner code. Machines weren't getting created with sequential ids (i.e. I'd get 0, 1, 3, 8..) Any immediate thoughts in what might cause that?
[16:29] <wwitzel3> natefinch: just add "machine number assignment no longer sequental" to the release notes, feature shipped ;)
[16:29] <natefinch> lol
[16:33] <natefinch> rogpeppe: did you have a script for automating the import sorting (i.e. project internal vs. project external)?
[16:33] <rogpeppe> natefinch: yeah
[16:33] <rogpeppe> natefinch: github.com/rogpeppe/sortimports
[16:33] <fwereade> natefinch, huh
[16:34] <fwereade> natefinch, yes, for some reason st.sequence() is getting called too often
[16:34] <fwereade> natefinch, ideally when you know you need to create a machine you consume a sequence number just once and pass that into the txn-builder loop
[16:35] <fwereade> natefinch, possibly one slipped into a createMachineOps that was hitting failure a it later? or something?
[16:36] <natefinch> fwereade: sounds plausible
[17:02] <dooferlad> dimitern, frobware, voidspace: hangout
[17:03] <katco> wwitzel3: your rebased branch is here? [email protected]:wwitzel3/juju.git
[17:06] <wwitzel3> katco: yeah, lxd-provider
[17:06] <katco> wwitzel3: k
[17:18] <voidspace> dammit
[17:24] <voidspace> frobware: dooferlad: dimitern: if you have time http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3097/
[17:27] <cherylj> frobware: Did someone from your team get a chance to look at bug 1512371?
[17:27] <mup> Bug #1512371: Using MAAS 1.9 as provider using DHCP NIC will prevent juju bootstrap <bug-squad> <maas-provider> <network> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512371>
[17:27] <frobware> cherylj, nope
[17:29] <frobware> cherylj, but we talked about dimiter's wip branch which help fix this: https://github.com/dimitern/juju/tree/maas-1.25-better-bridge-script
[17:30] <cherylj> frobware: okay, so that should address that issue as well?
[17:31] <frobware> cherylj, should do / can do, but wasn't specifically started for that bug though.
[17:31] <frobware> cherylj, the bug came after dimitern started work on that
[17:31] <katco> wwitzel3: can you tal at this: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3694
[17:32] <katco> wwitzel3: i can't force into FB, so did a merge --theirs of your branch
[17:32] <katco> wwitzel3: and would like to land that into FB
[17:32] <katco> wwitzel3: just need a sanity check
[17:33] <cherylj> frobware: ah, okay. so that branch was just for improving things, and not for a specific bug?
[17:34] <frobware> cherylj, correct. the issue is that the current script changes the order of what's in /e/n/i. the branch script is more complicated and attempts to change things in-situ
[17:35] <wwitzel3> katco: looking
[17:36] <cherylj> frobware: is there a target for landing that branch? We'll probably want to make sure we pull that in when we do 1.25.1
[17:36] <frobware> cherylj, initially we said master
[17:36] <wwitzel3> katco: yeah, that looks like it did the right thing to me
[17:36] <katco> wwitzel3: k merging
[17:37] <cherylj> frobware: it looks like that branch is based off of 1.25?
[17:40] <natefinch> gah, I've somehow disabled the scroll wheel in sublime :/
[17:41] <natefinch> ...nope I've disabled both the scroll wheel and right click
[18:15] <perrito666> how ennerving, a place that does one of the best croissants in the city makes also one of the worse coffees
[18:17] <natefinch> heh
[18:17] <perrito666> this country would really beneffit from discovering donuts :p
[18:17] <natefinch> haha
[18:55] <natefinch> ....and reboot fixes it.
[19:10] <cmars> anyone here familiar with dumplogs to review http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3100/ ?
[19:10] <cmars> i'm not familiar with juju-dumplogs but windows seems to feel left out
[19:13] <mup> Bug #1514555 opened: local provider "machine0" agent fails to start up on wily if "/var/lib" is not on the "/" partition. <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514555>
[19:16] <mup> Bug #1514555 changed: local provider "machine0" agent fails to start up on wily if "/var/lib" is not on the "/" partition. <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514555>
[19:22] <mup> Bug #1514555 opened: local provider "machine0" agent fails to start up on wily if "/var/lib" is not on the "/" partition. <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514555>
[20:04] <mup> Bug #1514570 opened: 'JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAGS=address-allocation' blocks after first 3 ips are allocated <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514570>
[20:07] <mup> Bug #1514570 changed: 'JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAGS=address-allocation' blocks after first 3 ips are allocated <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514570>
[20:19] <mup> Bug #1514570 opened: 'JUJU_DEV_FEATURE_FLAGS=address-allocation' blocks after first 3 ips are allocated <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514570>
[21:13] <natefinch> katco: good news, both bugs with unit assignment were from the same source, and I have a fix for it.
[21:14] <katco> natefinch: nice!
[21:51] <natefinch> uh, how do un-revert a PR? I tried re-PRing with the same old branch with some added fixes, and only the fixes are getting applied, not the whole of the branch... which means the unit assigner code is not getting added back to master
[21:52] * natefinch wonders if he should revert the revert PR...
[21:55] <natefinch> I got it.. just cherry-picked the original merge
[22:00] <natefinch-afk> katco, wwitzel3, ericsnow_: if you guys have time... the fixes are very small: (easier to see on github) http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3103/
[22:00] <natefinch-afk> ^ https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/3698
[22:00] <wwitzel3> natefinch-afk: ok, i'll take a look
[22:15] <thumper> rick_h__: ping
[22:19] <rick_h__> thumper: pong
[22:19] <thumper> rick_h__: hey there
[22:19] <thumper> rick_h__: wheren't we going to talk this week about CLI stuff?
[22:19] <thumper> I thought you were going to make some meetings
[22:20] <rick_h__> thumper: yes I was/am
[22:20] <thumper> k
[22:20] <rick_h__> thumper will get them on tonight sorry for the delay
[22:20] <thumper> that's fine
[22:20] <thumper> it isn't like I've got nothing to do :)
[22:20] <rick_h__> thumper: thanks fornthe poke
[22:20] <thumper> np
[22:21] <rick_h__> heh +1
[22:36] <katco> natefinch-afk: wwitzel3: ericsnow_: as you EOD, be sure to update any bugs you're working on
[22:36] <ericsnow_> katco: k
[22:39] <rick_h__> thumper: added please adjust if those don't work out
[22:40] <thumper> rick_h__: can we move tomorrows one out 30 minutes?
[22:40] <thumper> rick_h__: I'm normally at the gym between 12 and 1
[22:40] <rick_h__> thumper: wfm
[22:40] <thumper> cheers
[22:41] <thumper> alexisb: why is the TL call this week on a different day?
[22:41] <alexisb> thumper, becuase weds is a US holiday
[22:41] <thumper> ah
[22:42] <alexisb> thumper, hopefully I actually changed this weeks meeting and not some random day in dec ;)
[23:32] <wwitzel3> katco: yep, will do, thanks for the reminded
[23:32] <wwitzel3> reminder
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[17:30] <LinuxLover> Camera still not working, right?
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-touch
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[01:39] <gshmu> YQ601 didn't work... $ ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu --bootstrap
[07:25] <timppa_> Good morining!
[07:26] <timppa_> Where can I find a guide to build "preinstalled" tar.gz packages? I mean I'd like to build my own bundle which would include additional packages by default.
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[08:26] <jaywink> hi people. anyone know of any IRC clients for the phone? tried searching, only some webapps came up
[08:26] <jaywink> need to access company slack somehow.. an XMPP app would do too
[08:29] <Tm_T> jaywink: I use ssh -> tmux+irssi
[08:30] <jaywink> Tm_T, ok. Will use that then until an app comes along, thanks :)
[09:35] <Kudos2k> Help
[09:39] <jgdx> seb128, hi, re: the call fwd summary cached value, I think a better solution would be to store IMSIs to summaries, instead of paths.
[09:39] <seb128> jgdx, hey
[09:39] <jgdx> seb128, then I can remove the TTL stuff.
[09:40] <seb128> I don't know enough about that part of the stack to understand what you are saying, sorry
[09:40] <seb128> e.g I don't know what IMSI are
[09:40] <jgdx> seb128, sim subscription number
[09:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy World Freedom Day! 😃
[09:40] <jgdx> seb128, like an id for a sim
[09:41] <om26er> oSoMoN, Hi!
[09:41] <om26er> oSoMoN, how can i open a website with url dispatcher ?
[09:41] <seb128> jgdx, I see
[09:41] <jgdx> seb128, did you read the spec?
[09:42] <seb128> no, I couldn't find it
[09:42] <seb128> the wiki points to a google document
[09:42] <seb128> and clicking on the "call fowarding" in the index doesn't bring me anywhere
[09:42] <jgdx> seb128, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp?action=recall&rev=21
[09:43] <jgdx> seb128, the official spec is in limbo, but you can use that one ^
[09:43] <seb128> jgdx, k
[09:43] <oSoMoN> om26er, in a QML app: Qt.openUrlExternally("http://example.org")
[09:44] <om26er> oSoMoN, I was looking for a command line way. found I needed to install url-dispatcher-tools
[09:44] <om26er> oSoMoN, still it opens in new tab, I need to open the link in the same tab
[09:44] <om26er> perhaps there is a parameter for that ?
[09:45] <om26er> oSoMoN, url-dispatcher http://google.com <== that opens a new tab
[09:45] <oSoMoN> om26er, nope, this will always open in a new tab
[09:45] <oSoMoN> that’s expected
[09:46] <om26er> oSoMoN, any way I can open a website and go to a sub page, without interacting with the browser itself ?
[09:47] <oSoMoN> om26er, what do you mean?
[09:48] <om26er> oSoMoN, I mean, is there a way to open lets say ubuntu.com and then go to ubuntu.com/cloud through any command ?
[09:48] <om26er> oSoMoN, I need that for a test and apparently webdriver is not playing nice with the webbrowser.
[09:49] <oSoMoN> om26er, then we need to fix webdriver support
[09:50] <om26er> oSoMoN, that's true but I was looking for a workaround for now.
[09:52] <oSoMoN> om26er, I don’t think there’s a way around that, unfortunately
[09:53] <QUESTION> hi
[09:53] <oSoMoN> om26er, and even if there was one, you would be changing the meaning of the test (opening an external link in the current tab is different from navigating within a page)
[09:54] <om26er> oSoMoN, ehm, ok. let me invest sometime on the webdriver then ;)
[09:55] <QUESTION> om26er, how arew you?
[10:15] <seb128> dpm, hey, how are you?
[10:15] <seb128> dpm, when we get new templates that should be included on the phone, should priority numbers be tweaked so they are listed as they should?
[10:15] <dpm> morning seb128, good good, and you?
[10:15] <seb128> dpm, e.g https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+source/ubuntu-settings-components/+pots/ubuntu-settings-components/+admin
[10:16] <seb128> dpm, I'm good thanks
[10:16] <dpm> seb128, yeah, it's a good idea to set the priorities
[10:17] <seb128> dpm, can you do it for that one? what number would be the right one?
[10:17] <dpm> I can do it, yes
[10:18] <dpm> as per the numbers, we used to have a priority system for desktop packages, but we've never updated it to the phone
[10:21] <seb128> k
[10:22] <seb128> dpm, thanks
[10:22] <jgdx> morphis, hey, did you see my comment on the bz5 uss branch?
[10:23] <morphis> jgdx: no
[10:23] <morphis> jgdx: you've put it on the MP?
[10:23] <jgdx> morphis, yeah
[10:24] <dpm> seb128, done
[10:24] <seb128> dpm, great
[10:24] <dpm> seb128, however, there are still a few to do at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/15.04/+templates - I'll see if I can set them during the course of the day
[10:25] <seb128> k
[10:26] <morphis> jgdx: with "If I forget the device, the device can be forgotten after it's rediscovered." you mean the "Forget" button can still be used after the device was discovered again?
[10:27] <jgdx> morphis, yes, I can forget that device (ubuntu laptop) many times.
[10:28] <morphis> ok
[10:29] <morphis> jgdx: hm, I see
[10:30] <morphis> jgdx: ok, have a small fix for that
[10:30] <morphis> will update the silo later today
[10:30] <jgdx> morphis, great
[10:31] <morphis> was a regression from the migration, so good you've found it :)
[10:33] <jgdx> morphis, \o/ and yay for testplans
[10:34] <morphis> :D
[10:52] <miertje> hello
[10:54] <miertje> i want to upgrade my bq4.5 from v2 to v24 , do i need to back up?
[10:56] <davmor2> miertje: you shouldn't need to, but it might be safer to do it as that is a huge jump
[10:56] <miertje> thanx
[10:58] <mardy> ssweeny: hi! I left a comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~ssweeny/location-service/delayed-providers.15.04/+merge/275384
[10:58] <mardy> ssweeny: I have a more general question about that, if you have some time
[11:43] <timppa_> Is there any known bugs on rootstock-touch-install?
[11:44] <timppa_> It cannot go past "adding android system image to installation ..."
[11:44] <timppa_> it just sit's there, process is running. Device = Nexus 7 LTE (deb)
[13:18] <om26er> alex-abreu, Hi!
[13:19] <om26er> alex-abreu, trying to use webdriver with the web browser, I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/13208323/
[13:36] <mterry> alecu, I tried to test IAP this weekend. Some difficulties: the /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/pay-service/setup-staging.sh script gave an error about "cp" after importing some gpg keys. Running it a second time seemed better, but didn't appear to do as much, so I don't know whether everything worked. Secondly, I tried to use lp:~ricardokirkner/+junk/iap, but couldn't log in. It didn't seem to like my credentials, though I swear I put them i
[13:36] <mterry> n right a couple times...
[13:42] <Springbank> Hi
[13:43] <brendand> dobey, some change, possibly in unity8 seems to have changed the objectName of the search button in the scope from 'search_header_button' to 'search_action_button'
[13:44] <brendand> dobey, i'm going to file a bug and push a fix, can you look at it?
[13:44] <brendand> dobey, this is in unity-scope-clicks autopilot helpers i should say
[13:50] <brendand> dobey, https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/unity-scope-click/fix_search_button_objectname/+merge/277007
[13:54] <alecu> mterry: thanks a lot for the feedback! I'll ask Wellark to check that script
[13:54] <alecu> mterry: and regarding the iap branch, that's very weird
[13:55] <mterry> alecu, yeah I might have just been crazy. Can try again later
[13:55] <alecu> mterry: I'm looking inside an incognito browser window here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ricardokirkner/+junk/iap/view/head:/iap.py
[13:55] <alecu> mterry: and it seems to be public
[13:55] <mterry> alecu, the instruction page mentions having to poke you folks to enable IAP for a given app. Is that still needed?
[13:55] <mterry> alecu, oh no no
[13:55] <mterry> alecu, the credentials error is when I try to use "login" inside that script
[13:56] <alecu> mterry: ah, doh
[13:56] <mterry> alecu, I have 2fA enabled, but I did put a key in...
[13:56] <alecu> mterry: I'll ask ricardokirkner (pindonga) about that.
[14:01] <alecu> mterry: let's move this to #ubuntu-iap-pilot, because I can't see the relevant people around here
[14:16] <mterry> Mirv, you mentioned xenial not booting on the phone. is there a bug I can track for that, so I know when to retest my camera bugs?
[14:19] <jibel> mterry, bug 1512323
[14:19] <mterry> jibel, thanks! :)
[14:20] <Mirv> thanks, I also just knew it's somewhere but didn't know the number :)
[14:24] <mterry> Mirv, that bug mentions a last-known good build, will try that for the camera bugs
[14:39] <rhuddie> Kaleo, I've seen some failures in regression tests (and also camera-app tests) caused by helpers in the camera-app, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1514408
[14:39] <rhuddie> Kaleo, I've got an MP to fix it, please do take a look. https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/camera-app/fix-1514408-swipe-to-gallery/+merge/276993
[14:39] <Kaleo> rhuddie, thanks
[14:40] <Kaleo> rhuddie, I don't understand how I missed that
[14:40] <Kaleo> rhuddie, thank you
[14:40] <rhuddie> Kaleo, no problem
[14:53] <oSoMoN> jdstrand, any ideas on how to address https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1514455 ?
[14:55] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: yes, use content-hub. I believe they have a file picker now
[14:56] <oSoMoN> oh really? that’d be perfect
[14:56] <jdstrand> no reason not to use it on desktop
[14:56] <oSoMoN> will test
[14:56] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: I've not used it. you might want to chat with kenvandine
[14:57] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, so content-hub has a file picker?
[14:57] <kenvandine> ah... sort of :)
[14:57] <kenvandine> Elleo created the files-app (stripped down from filemanager-app)
[14:57] <kenvandine> which will be used for legacy apps
[14:58] <Elleo> oSoMoN: it's only a prototype at the moment, it's not shipped on any devices and hasn't had any design approval yet
[14:59] <oSoMoN> Elleo, okay, is it in a state where we could experiment with using it in the browser on desktop?
[14:59] <Elleo> oSoMoN: yeah, it should probably work fine on the desktop, haven't really tested it there though: http://code.launchpad.net/files-app
[15:00] <Elleo> but I don't see any reason for it not to work
[15:00] <oSoMoN> good, I’ll see if I can experiment with it this week
[15:01] <kenvandine> oSoMoN, let us know how it goes
[15:03] <oSoMoN> will do
[15:04] <kenvandine> Elleo, we're going to need to finish up files-app soon, that's the last step for legacy app support
[15:05] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah, I guess how much work there is left to do on it depends on what design thinks of it; do you know if they've looked at it much?
[15:05] <kenvandine> Elleo, last i heard they hadn't looked, but bfiller had a todo to get that done
[15:05] <Elleo> okay, cool
[15:34] <Uchin> hi all, any idea how to detect bq aquaris (ubuntu edition) as GSM modem on linux
[15:35] <Uchin> hi all, any idea how to detect bq aquaris (ubuntu edition) as GSM modem on linux
[15:37] <pmcgowan> Uchin, not sure what you mean, do you want it to work as a wifi hotspot?
[15:38] <Uchin> no no
[15:38] <Uchin> I want to send AT commands to mobile
[15:39] <Uchin> using /dev/ttyUSB*
[16:36] <Walex> Uc
[16:55] <vishnudev> anyone there?
[16:55] <vishnudev> I'ce one doubt
[16:58] <davmor2> vishnudev: yes there are people here, feel free to ask your question
[16:58] <vishnudev> I've compiled android kernel for nexus 6
[16:59] <vishnudev> after making modificaitons for ubuntu
[16:59] <vishnudev> when i tried booting android with that kernel its not booting. stuck at loading screen
[16:59] <vishnudev> is it normal?
[17:29] <Seb_> hi
[18:55] <muka> Right now I have Nexus 4 but it will not last long, so I'm thinking to get BQ E5 or Meizu. Any recommendations? I'm in US, t-mobile network.
[19:08] <nhaines> muka: I suggest waiting for a US Ubuntu phone, because the others only work on 2G in the US, and T-Mobile doesn't offer 2G coverage everywhere.
[19:10] <muka> nhaines, thank you.
[19:12] <nhaines> muka: you're welcome! That said, there isn't any expected release date for a US phone. We know there's interest, but the software has to become more mature. I'm hoping by the end of the year.
[19:15] <muka> ok, thanks again.
[19:28] <vishnudev> Hi guys lunch command is not doing anything
[19:28] <vishnudev> am i missing something?
[19:48] <ramsesHD> Hi all. I have two questions. Can I use the full range of Linux commands with the terminal app on Ubuntu Touch? And is it possible to run X applications like Firefox on a smartphone with Ubuntu Touch?
[20:00] <popey> ramsesHD, kinda, and not yet.
[20:01] <ramsesHD> popey: what do you mean by kinda? ;-)
[20:01] <popey> ramsesHD, well, not all commands are installed, and we don't support using apt-get to install them
[20:01] <popey> so sure, the ones that are installed work, like vi, nano etc
[20:01] <popey> but others, you may need to put them on the device in creative ways
[20:02] <ramsesHD> popey: ok, thanks.
[20:02] <popey> make sense?
[20:02] <mcphail> popey: we need to get lxd on the phone, so we can apt-get happily :)
[20:03] <popey> or just a chroot, like ogra_ does
[20:03] <mcphail> chroots ar emessy
[20:03] <ramsesHD> popey: yes, I understood. Unfortunately, that isn't what I'm looking for.
[20:04] <popey> ramsesHD, what you after? maybe we can help
[20:06] <ramsesHD> popey: simply a fully usable shell like on Sailfish OS on the Jolla phone. Unfortunately, it's very out of date.
[20:08] <popey> mcphail, snappy install lxd :)
[20:08] <mcphail> popey: indeed :)
[20:09] <mcphail> ramsesHD: phone has a full bash shell
[20:10] <mcphail> ramsesHD: and a good terminal app
[20:13] <ramsesHD> mcphail: I am interested in the Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu edition. So, I can expect a full bash shell on this?
[20:14] <mcphail> as far as I know, yes. Be aware, though, that if you want to install other important software (such as some python versions, ruby etc) the security model restricts you a bit in what you can do
[20:15] <ramsesHD> hm, ok.
[20:15] <mcphail> ramsesHD: but you can happily use the shell to wget, ssh out etc
[20:17] <davmor2> ramsesHD: it is a full bash shell, it is just that not all the terminal apps are available, so it might be that if you depend on a terminal app in a script if it isn't on the phone it will fail to work, for example top is installed but htop isn't so if you prefer htop you have to be creative
[20:18] <ramsesHD> davmor2: thanks.
[21:30] <drwf> Hello I have a question, I cant conconnect wifi under hhexadecimal key wifi
[21:31] <drwf> Can't connect wifi under hexadecimal key wifi
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[17:30] <bschaefer> slvn_, this is how it looks :)
[17:30] <bschaefer> http://i.imgur.com/Vua6Iap.png
[17:30] * bschaefer looking into it
[17:31] <bschaefer> it doesnt happen like that on the desktop...
[17:31] <bschaefer> (and touch wasnt working)
[17:31] <slvn_> bschaefer, this is bad, but this is because I provided a bad application
[17:31] <bschaefer> slvn_, no, all apps
[17:31] <bschaefer> even my own
[17:31] <bschaefer> (using opengles2)
[17:31] <bschaefer> not sure if those are software or what
[17:31] <slvn_> then there is a bug :)
[17:31] <bschaefer> yup
[17:32] * bschaefer looking into it
[17:32] <bschaefer> tic tac toe: http://i.imgur.com/tLA6jtn.png
[17:32] <bschaefer> there must be a reason :)
[17:32] <slvn_> yep bad also ...
[17:32] <slvn_> at least portrait/landscape orientation seems to work :)
[17:33] <slvn_> (but there is the status bar ... would be great to be able to hide it, or to know its size/position)
[17:35] <slvn_> also the colors seems wrongs. it's black and white ok, but there is some noise.
[17:36] <bschaefer> slvn_, you've to set the surface to fullscreen
[17:36] <bschaefer> to move the top bar
[17:37] <slvn_> ok
[17:38] <slvn_> for the Tic Tac Toe, some debug message are enabled .. it might help
[17:38] <slvn_> maybe the resolution that I retrieve if wrong
[17:40] <bschaefer> slvn_, ill use my own for now since i've the source :)
[17:40] <bschaefer> yours will be the test after a fix
[17:40] <slvn_> ok !
[17:57] <slvn_> bschaefer, Maybe that can help : when we tested the same apps on McPhail device, there was no issue of rendering ! (though I saw no screenshot)
[17:57] <bschaefer> slvn_, was it vivid+overlay?
[17:57] <bschaefer> or was it wily/xenial?
[17:58] <slvn_> I guess his device is vivid. and the app is vivid+overlay
[17:58] <slvn_> the app I sent you is vivid+overlay
[17:58] <bschaefer> well then it shouldnt run :)
[17:58] <bschaefer> if his device is vivid only then mir is like 0.13
[17:59] <slvn_> no sorry, his device is problably vivid+overlay also
[17:59] <bschaefer> yeah
[17:59] <bschaefer> hmm
[17:59] <slvn_> we need you branch :)
[17:59] <slvn_> the app is then vivid+overlay+your_branch
[17:59] <bschaefer> https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/+junk/SDL2-new-mir-ABI
[17:59] * bschaefer is getting his phone setup to debug and hopes he doesnt run out of space
[18:00] <bschaefer> cross compiling takes to long
[18:00] <bschaefer> i also need to check unity8 desktop... to see if the same issue
[18:00] <bschaefer> if thats the case it might be qt/mir
[18:00] <bschaefer> but ... not really sure atm
[18:02] <bschaefer> slvn_, the one thing sdl2 does strangly is talks to mir directly
[18:03] <bschaefer> vs going through the mir platform
[18:03] <bschaefer> which *could* cause strange issues (possibly?)
[18:04] <slvn_> it talks to mir to configure the screen/surface, then it does opengles2 things
[18:04] <slvn_> maybe we could check that the renderer is actually opengles2
[18:04] <bschaefer> wait... i didnt actaully check opengles2...
[18:05] <bschaefer> but it should use opengles
[18:05] <bschaefer> slvn_, i have an app that is 100% opengles2 (otherewise it'll fail)
[18:05] * bschaefer should test that out
[18:06] <bschaefer> if its all software rendering then it could be my fault (some how getting 1/2 on my stride)
[18:15] <bschaefer> slvn_, http://i.imgur.com/ZEyDjRW.png
[18:16] <slvn_> it could YUV
[18:16] <slvn_> it could be YUV
[18:16] <slvn_> mis interpretation of pixel format
[18:16] <bschaefer> yeah, which would mean 1/2 stride
[18:17] <bschaefer> meaning clone surface
[18:17] <bschaefer> (ie. RGB16 vs RGB32)
[18:23] <slvn_> Could be the algorithm in SDL2 that set the GLES2 config that does somethings wrong ... see SDL_EGL_ChooseConfig() .. the first config should be the better
[18:25] <bschaefer> slvn_, it is most likely me picking a pixel format that is to large while the surface is actually a 16
[18:25] <bschaefer> so if i think its rgb32, i create a surface that is twice the size
[18:25] <bschaefer> of the actual surface in sdl2
[18:26] <bschaefer> soo im copying (two chunks of the same thing)
[18:26] <bschaefer> theres also this nice new function:
[18:26] <bschaefer> client/mir_toolkit/mir_connection.h:194:MirPixelFormat mir_connection_get_egl_pixel_format
[18:29] <slvn_> I should patch SDL2/mir backend ?
[18:30] <bschaefer> slvn_, naw its my problem :)
[18:30] * bschaefer is looking into fixing it
[18:31] <slvn_> ok L)(
[18:31] <slvn_> :)
[18:55] <mcphail> Hi slvn_ and bschaefer. I'm not getting that odd doubling on my phone, nor errors with the rendering of the balloons.
[18:57] <bschaefer> mcphail, what version of sdl2 are you using?
[18:57] <mcphail> bschaefer: whichever one slvn_ bundled with his app. I don't have the source
[18:58] <bschaefer> hmm
[18:58] <bschaefer> mcphail, what are you running on your phone? vivid+overlay?
[18:58] <bschaefer> or wily/xenial?
[18:58] <bschaefer> mcphail, also what phone do you have?
[18:58] <mcphail> bschaefer: I'm running stock, so I presume it is vivid+overlay
[18:58] <bschaefer> as right now it looks like an incorrect pixel format
[18:58] * bschaefer has a nexus 4
[18:59] <mcphail> perhaps it is the same rendering bug reported by popey a while back?
[19:00] <mcphail> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl2/+bug/1460149
[19:02] <bschaefer> mcphail, i think that was different
[19:02] <bschaefer> that actually looks like corruption
[19:02] <bschaefer> what i have is just pixel format issues
[19:02] <mcphail> bschaefer: see comment 18
[19:03] <bschaefer> i even made a comment on that
[19:03] <bschaefer> umm
[19:03] * bschaefer re-reads
[19:05] <bschaefer> mcphail, but yeah mir supports 16 PF now...
[19:05] <bschaefer> 16 bit pixel formats
[19:05] <mcphail> aah ok
[19:05] <bschaefer> (in 0.17), unless ... that landed?
[19:05] <bschaefer> later
[19:05] <bschaefer> naw it should have landed in 0.16
[19:05] <mcphail> I think it is 0.16 on the phones?
[19:06] <mcphail> I'm certainly not getting rendering issues on mine (except the tictactoe grid doesn;t have any horizontal bars - probable resolution issue)
[19:07] <bschaefer> mcphail, 0.17 is on the phone
[19:07] <bschaefer> from the overlay
[19:07] <bschaefer> mcphail, what device do you have?
[19:07] <mcphail> krillin (bq 4.5)
[19:08] <bschaefer> i could try it out on that... but im thinking that might not support the pixel format that is getting hit on the N4
[19:08] <mcphail> might explain why the N4 seems to hit more rendering bugs than the bq
[19:09] <mcphail> the issue I get with the games is the touch input doesn't work properly
[19:09] <bschaefer> yeah that... i have to to look into its only
[19:09] <bschaefer> up/down motion still works
[19:09] <bschaefer> at lease was working for me
[19:10] <mcphail> first touch works, but subsequent ones are ignored. Did slvn_ copy you in to the log from my phone?
[19:10] <bschaefer> yeah
[19:10] <bschaefer> err
[19:10] <bschaefer> not the log
[19:10] <bschaefer> but
[19:11] <bschaefer> i've seen that issue before on the N7
[19:11] <slvn_> I can explain this issue
[19:11] <bschaefer> where you get a down, but never an up
[19:11] <slvn_> what happens is there are lot for FINGER_DOWN but no FINGER_UP
[19:11] <bschaefer> yeah
[19:11] <slvn_> not enough FINGER_UP
[19:11] <slvn_> and, I think there are multiple reasons for the missing finger_up
[19:12] <slvn_> one of the reasons, if the "event" action_cancel, that should emit some finger_up
[19:12] <slvn_> which is not in the backend I think
[19:13] <slvn_> other reasons are more obscure ... the way of decoding the datas ...
[19:13] <bschaefer> slvn_, that might explains some issue i dont remember that action
[19:51] <slvn_> bschaefer, mcphail here's my old SDL_mirevents.c with modifications to fix/workaround the input issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13210696/
[19:53] <slvn_> see mir_motion_action_cancel and also mir_motion_action_pointer_up
[19:53] <bschaefer> slvn_, that doesnt exist anymore :(
[19:53] <bschaefer> action wise
[19:54] <slvn_> and as a "diff" : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13210720/
[19:55] <slvn_> action_cancel does not exist anymore ?
[19:55] <bschaefer> nope
[19:55] <slvn_> action_pointer_up
[19:55] <bschaefer> slvn_, mir event 2.0 changed a lot
[19:55] <bschaefer> theres: mir_touch_action_up = 0, mir_touch_action_down = 1, mir_touch_action_change = 2
[19:55] <bschaefer> for touch events
[19:55] <slvn_> ... what is important is the "for()" loop in action_pointer_up to do a up on all events.
[19:56] <bschaefer> yeah
[19:56] <slvn_> maybe there is no more action_cancel bug then !
[19:56] <bschaefer> you need to go through and eat all the touch events
[19:56] * bschaefer looks at his touch code
[19:57] <bschaefer> slvn_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13210751/
[19:57] <bschaefer> thats the current touch code...
[19:57] <bschaefer> and i loop through it all
[19:57] <bschaefer> but i still see touch issues up/down
[19:57] <slvn_> is there still the android layer under mir to handle touch/input ?
[19:58] <bschaefer> currently yes
[19:58] <slvn_> so this action_cancel probably still exists
[19:58] <bschaefer> not in the mir public api
[19:59] <bschaefer> (android most likly)
[19:59] <slvn_> so maybe it should be translated as several finger_up
[19:59] <bschaefer> slvn_, if its only an issue in SDL2 then i must just be doing something wrong :)
[19:59] <bschaefer> ie. it seems to work fine in all other QT/QML apps
[19:59] <slvn_> are they using multiple fingers?
[20:00] <bschaefer> slvn_, we have having issues with just 1 figure
[20:00] <bschaefer> and i assume yes
[20:02] <slvn_> it's easy to see if the bug is in (SDL+SDL_mir_backend) or in (mir+...)
[20:02] <slvn_> just log the up / down
[20:02] <slvn_> + ids
[20:03] <slvn_> for each finger down, there must be a finger up
[20:03] <slvn_> I mean, that what SDL rely on .. but SDL could also be more robust by implement some timeout etc.
[20:07] <bschaefer> slvn_, one issue i saw is: AddTouchDevice(device_id);
[20:08] <bschaefer> was in the for loop
[20:08] <bschaefer> for each touch event
[20:08] <bschaefer> (that could cause some sort of issue with sdl2 under the hood but idk
[20:12] <slvn_> bschaefer, AddTouchDevice is still in the for loop !
[20:12] <bschaefer> yeah i just moved it
[20:12] <bschaefer> but idk
[20:12] <bschaefer> what it does atm, need to look at that
[20:12] <slvn_> like before
[20:12] <slvn_> no, before and now, it has always been there
[20:12] <bschaefer> im not sure what sdl2 does (if its a mapping of the id then it shouldnt matter)
[20:12] <bschaefer> yeah
[20:12] <bschaefer> im not sure if thats causing a sync issue
[20:13] * bschaefer just needs to check the mir logs
[20:13] <bschaefer> for up/down touch events
[20:13] <slvn_> AddTouch is for SDL only
[20:14] <bschaefer> ... why does it even compile
[20:14] <bschaefer> i dont see that function anywhere haha....
[20:14] <slvn_> wrapper to SDL_AddTouch
[20:15] <bschaefer> but its not defined anywhere... unless grep is failing me
[20:15] <slvn_> in SDL/src/events/SDL_touch.c
[20:16] <bschaefer> i see SDL_AddTouch
[20:16] <bschaefer> i just dont see AddTouchDevice
[20:16] <slvn_> and SDL_mirevents.c
[20:16] <slvn_> AddTouchDevice
[20:16] <bschaefer> slvn_, im just saying AddTouchDevice is not defined anywhere
[20:16] <bschaefer> and i dont see a
[20:17] <bschaefer> #define AddTouchDevice SDL_AddTouch
[20:17] <slvn_> no no, in SDL_mirevents.c, static void AddTouchDevice
[20:17] <slvn_> just doing a SDL_AddTouch
[20:17] <bschaefer> slvn_, ug
[20:18] <bschaefer> im not use to
[20:18] <bschaefer> static NEW LINE
[20:18] <bschaefer> AddTouchDev :)
[20:18] <bschaefer> slvn_, confirmed the cloning issue
[20:19] <bschaefer> assume the PF is 32, and setting it to such, even though we are a 16 pF
[20:19] <bschaefer> PF*
[20:20] <slvn_> ok, not sure of the implication though ...
[20:21] <bschaefer> it what causes the cloning
[20:21] <bschaefer> of the surfaces
[20:21] <bschaefer> ie. the two copies
[20:21] <bschaefer> sooo now its just trying to figure out how to pick the correct PF (which can prove to be hard)
[20:21] <mcphail> bschaefer: ha! - so it _is_ the same as the bug above ;)
[20:21] <bschaefer> mcphail, yeah :) (it looks that way)
[20:22] <bschaefer> mcphail, the issue atm is, i just loop through the available pixel formats
[20:22] <bschaefer> and return when one is supported (to use as the PF for the mir surface)
[20:22] <bschaefer> but the PF that is actually given to EGL is 565
[20:22] <bschaefer> and we create a mir surface of 888
[20:23] <mcphail> is there a robust way to fix that?
[20:24] <bschaefer> mcphail, yes but it crashes atm :)
[20:24] <bschaefer> and is fixed in 0.17.1
[20:24] <bschaefer> but overlay+vivid is 0.17.0
[20:35] <mcphail> bschaefer: so close..!
[20:37] <bschaefer> quite :) (well hopefully it fixes it)
[21:29] <slvn_> bschaefer, mcphail I am leaving the chan. I would be glad to have some news by email. I'll be there tomorrow++
[21:30] <bschaefer> c ya
[21:30] <mcphail> slvn_: cheerio
[21:30] <slvn_> bye!
[21:31] <bschaefer> hmm so far testing output on touch... when i hit a down, i get an up...
[21:31] <bschaefer> but i dont have a good app to test atm :(
[22:56] <bschaefer> mcphail, haha... guess why touch didnt work :)
[22:56] <bschaefer> HandleTouchPress(device_id, id, SDL_FALSE, n_x, n_y, pressure);
[22:56] <bschaefer> was being sent for DOWN
[22:56] <bschaefer> and for UP
[22:56] <bschaefer> HandleTouchPress(device_id, id, SDL_TRUE, n_x, n_y, pressure);
[22:56] <bschaefer> wellllll
[22:56] <bschaefer> SDL_TRUE is the slot for DOWN being true
[22:57] <bschaefer> soo i just flipped those around when i re factored the code...
[22:57] <bschaefer> so when we get a DOWN action we were saying DOWN is false and when we got an UP action we were saying a DOWN has happened
[23:14] <mcphail> bschaefer: nice catch! This is the advantage of having people writing games for the device in SDL - highlights these problems.
[23:15] * mcphail might retry his Baldur's gate port
[23:18] <bschaefer> o.m.g someone ported that game?
[23:18] <bschaefer> to sdl2?
[23:18] <mcphail> bschaefer: I have a port which gets as far as the menu
[23:18] <mcphail> bschaefer: using gemrb
[23:19] <bschaefer> mcphail, nice! I've not heard of those, but i loved baldurs gate haha
[23:20] <mcphail> bschaefer: unfortunately, my porting has been delayed by the fact I'm wasting so much time playing Planescape Torment on the PC... :)
[23:20] <bschaefer> haha
[23:20] <bschaefer> the down side of porting games, testing to long :)
[23:23] <mcphail> bschaefer: also hampered by the ever-growing list of games on Steam. My life is ruined
[23:24] <bschaefer> haha
[23:24] <bschaefer> very true
[23:25] <mcphail> bschaefer: incredibly cool to see the BG intro on the phone, though
[23:26] <bschaefer> mcphail, yup had the exact feeling when i saw the dota2 intro
[23:26] <bschaefer> (on the desktop)
[23:27] <bschaefer> though i had a multi thread gl context bug after that, that ended with me digging through the video driver...
[23:27] <bschaefer> but still fun... i've to get that working again so much has changed
[23:27] * bschaefer heads to a bar to do some work
[23:27] <mcphail> bschaefer: the life of a linux gamer will never be easy, i suspect
[23:27] <bschaefer> :)
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[00:41] <HolyKnight> @estima7: 아시아나 A380 일등석의 리뷰를 재미있게 해주신 의사선생님 블로거의 글을 어제 페북에 공유했는데 좋아요가 거의 3천에 공유 3백회. 나도 깜짝 놀라다. http://m.blog.naver.com/cityhuntorr/220529105251 기존 미디어도 한번 다뤄볼만한 내용일 듯.
[01:03] <PotatoGim> 안녕하세요~
[01:54] <ipeter_> 안녕하세요?
[03:53] <samahui_tp> 점심 맛나게 드시고 오후도 화이팅! 입니다~~
[04:36] <ipeter__> 모두들 힘내세요
[04:36] <ipeter__> 화이팅입니다..!
[05:07] <autowiz> 힘빠지는 하루 입니다. 이런날은 어떡해야 할까요?
[05:08] <autowiz> 제가 좋아하는 어머니표 감자튀김이랑 감자채 볶음 , 감자 핫도그 같은거 먹으면 힘날거 같은데
[05:08] <autowiz> 비스무리한것도 파는곳이 없네요
[05:27] <autowiz> 간혹 히스토리를 남기고 싶지 않은 작업일 있을때는 inprivate browsing 같은 기능을 이용합니다.
[05:27] <autowiz> 요즘 브라우저들은 다 있지요.
[05:28] <autowiz> shred 명령으로 파일 몇개를 지울려는데 역시나 명령 기록은 남기고 싶지않습니다. dash 라는것과 sash 라는것이 있다는군요.
[05:29] <autowiz> sash 설치해서 처리해줬습니다. sash 를 설치해야하니 해킹이런거랑은 관계가 없는거 같고 , 뭐 그냥 그렇다구요. ㅠㅠ
[05:51] <Noelstyle> 안녕하세요. 우분투 코리아 포럼 로그인에 문제가 있어 irc로 들어왔어요. 메일주소로 아이디 확인과 ,패스워드 확인(reset)이 가능한 방법이 있을까요? 검색하다 http://ubuntu.or.kr/ucp.php?mode=sendpassword 링크를 찾긴 했는데 접근이 불가능하다고 해요 :-(
[05:53] <Noelstyle> 가입할 때 사용한 메일 주소는 [email protected] 입니다.
[06:00] <autowiz> https://forum.ubuntu-kr.org/ucp.php?mode=sendpassword
[06:00] <autowiz> 는 접속이되실까요?
[06:02] <Noelstyle> 아앗 넵!!! 위 페이지에서 초기화 메일 발송했습니다. 고맙습니다! :-)
[07:01] <autowiz> 포테토님 계세요??
[08:49] <HolyKnight> 본녀 건장검진 초음파 검사결과가....
[08:49] <HolyKnight> 지방간 담낭용종 몇개 있다는군유....
[08:51] <HolyKnight> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OZV6pf8N4Bo/Vj913qDGMsI/AAAAAAAAB4k/sk8ExIPSGw8/s1600/104.gif
[08:55] <PotatoGim> autowiz: 살아있습니다!
[08:55] <PotatoGim> 저도 지방간은 달고 있는데... 해결이 안되네요...ㅜ
[09:00] <DarkCircle> 3년동안 술을 끊으시면 됩니다.
[09:07] <pchero_work> 흠..
[09:07] <pchero_work> df -h 명령어에는 100% 사용중으로 나오는데
[09:08] <pchero_work> du -chs /* 명령어에는 한 10% 정도 사용하는 걸로만 나옵니다..
[09:08] <pchero_work> 어디를 더 봐야 할까요..?
[09:08] <jason__> 이런 거 관심있는 분 있을까요? http://magazine.odroid.com/assets/201511/pdf/ODROID-Magazine-201511.pdf
[09:25] <HolyKnight> ㅎㅇ
[09:25] <MENT> ¿¨
[09:35] <ircCloud_autowiz> 오드로이드 자료 좋네요 ^^
[10:00] <ircCloud_autowiz> 4테토 : 아까 이메일 확인하다가 pc사랑 에서 설문조사한다고 해서 하는도중에
[10:01] <ircCloud_autowiz> NAS 업체 목록이 나와서 테토님 회사 찍어줄려고 했었드랬지요.
[10:08] <ircCloud_autowiz> 아... 외롭다 ㅠㅠㅠ
[10:08] <ircCloud_autowiz> 얼른 새벽이 와서 서니님이라도 오셔야 ㅎㅎ
[10:09] <PotatoGim> 으허허... 아마도 저희는 없을 것 같네요...ㅜ
[10:17] <pchero_work> http://okky.kr/article/301196
[10:18] <pchero_work> 지금 이슈중인 내용입니다. 경력 뻥튀기.. 실제로 해보신 분 계신가요?
[10:20] <HolyKnight> 올만에 옥히 가보네유 ㅎㅎ
[10:20] <jun> SI업체는 아니지만.. 그래도 프로젝트 따내려고 경력 뻥튀기를 해본적은 있습니다.. ㅎㅎㅎ
[10:21] <jun> 물론 개발이 아닌부분이라서 글의 내용이랑은 살짝 틀리지만요
[10:26] <jun> 솔직히 저는 경력 뻥튀기가 나쁘다고 생각하기 보단 그 이전에 경력뻥튀기를 할수 밖에 없는 현재 구조가 잘못됐다고 생각합니다! (추상적인답인가요..?)
[10:26] <pchero_work> 음... 넵.
[10:27] <pchero_work> 전.. 글쓴님 의견에 동의하는 편이에요. 경력 뻥튀기가 좋고 나쁘고를 떠나서.. 현재는 불법이고, 해서는 안되는 행위니까요.
[10:27] <jun> 그냥 갑자기 든 생각인데요... 솔직히 프로젝트에서 개발을 하면... 그 개발 코드는 개발자의 것이 아니라 기업 또는 프로젝트의 것이 되잖아요
[10:27] <jun> 그런 상황에서 개발자들이내세울것은 경력밖에 없으니 이런현상이 일어나는게 아닌가 생각됩니다;
[10:28] <jun> 개발자들의 실력을 판가름할수 있는 기준이 두자니 그것도 말이안되는것 같고...
[10:28] <pchero_work> 보다 원론적인 부분으로 들어가자면, 경력에 따라 임금이 달라지니까 이런 현상이 발생하는 것 같습니다.
[10:29] <pchero_work> 하지만, 조금 더 자세히 보면.. 제품(개발자)을 속여서 파는거랑 같은거죠..
[10:29] <jun> 반대로 이런경우도 있지 않을까요?
[10:29] <pchero_work> 도덕적으로도, 법적으로도 문제가 됩니다.
[10:29] <jun> 정말 개발실력이 뛰어난데 아직 경력이 없는 사원
[10:29] <jun> 근데 아무도 써주질 않는다면..
[10:30] <pchero_work> 경력과 별개로 자신의 실력을 인정받을 수 있어야 하겠지요.
[10:30] <pchero_work> 제일 안타까운 케이스이긴 한데..
[10:30] <jun> 경력도 경력이지만.. 결국엔 마지막에 나온 제품 또는 프로젝트의 퀄리티로 결정해야하는 문제일꺼라 생각을 합니다;;
[10:31] <pchero_work> 그렇다고 경력 뻥튀기가 될 수 있는건 아닌 것 같습니다.
[10:31] <pchero_work> 결국에는 경력이 아닌 실력과 결과물로 판가름 될 수 있어야 하겠지만...
[10:32] <jun> 경력 뻥튀기가 법적인 문제가 되긴 하지만... 다들 안지키고 있는데 나만 잘 지키자 이건 또 아니라고 생각합니다;;
[10:32] <jun> 무조껀 이게 나쁘다고 말하기보단 근본적인 원인을 찾아 해결하지 않으면 이 이야기는 계속 될거라 생각합니다;;
[10:33] <pchero_work> 남들이 횡단보도를 막 건넌다고 자신도 횡단보도를 막 건넌다는게 당연할 수는 없습니다. 근본적인 원인을 찾자면 그곳에 횡단보도가 없었기 때문이겠죠. 하지만 횡단보도가 생기기 전까지 무단횡단을 한게 당연할 수는 없겠지요...
[10:37] <jun> pchero_work: 님께서 말씀하신 부분은 단순화시킨 예제라고 생각합니다. 물론 저도 경력뻥튀기를 한 부분이 잘했다고 생각하는것은 아닙니다.
[10:38] <jun> 다만 현재 경력뻥튀기를 하시는 대다수가 그저 가벼운 마음에 경력뻥튀기를 하는것은 아닐꺼라는 겁니다;;
[10:38] <pchero_work> 현재 상황이 안좋고 아쉬운건 압니다.. 대부분 어쩔 수 없다고 하죠..
[10:39] <pchero_work> 이해는 하지만, 나중에 처벌을 받게 됐을 때도, 어쩔 수 없이 처벌받을 수 밖에 없지 않나.. 싶습니다.
[10:41] <jun> 저는 지금 상황에서 볼때 글을 쓰신분의 위치가 어느정도의 위치가 있는것으로 느껴집니다. 위치가 있다면 따르는 분들도 많을테구요.. 그런 분이 무조껀 적으로 니들 하는거 나빠! 하지마! 라고 한쪽으로만 치우쳐서 이야기를 한게 마음이 불편한 겁니다;;
[10:41] <pchero_work> 네, 글이 강경하신게 맞죠..
[10:42] <pchero_work> 그런데.. 읽어보면.. 도둑질은 나쁜짓이야! 하는 글이지 않나요..
[10:42] <jun> 조금은 부드럽게 이런건 나쁜겁니다. 어찌하면 이 부분이 고쳐질까요? 라고 해주셨으면 합니다..
[10:43] <jun> 저도 신규 프로젝트할때 엔지니어 경력을 뻥튀기를 한적이 있습니다. 정말 이렇게까지 해야하나? 싶긴 하지만.. 그렇게 해야지 회사가 돌아가고 회사가 돌아가야 제가 월급을 받고.. 그래야 사는데... 어찌 그뜻을 어기겠습니까...
[10:44] <pchero_work> 에효...
[10:44] <jun> 결국 해당 프로젝트를 받아오지 못해서 경력뻥튀기 서류는 휴지조각이 되었지만...
[10:44] <pchero_work> 이게, 다들 누구나 한발쯤은 걸쳐 있는 사항이라..
[10:45] <pchero_work> 해서는 안되는 짓이라는 거 알고 있지만, 누구나 다들 뜨끔하는거죠.
[10:45] <jun> 정말 잘나가는 대기업 갑들이 이런걸 하겠냐는 겁니다.... 중소기업 사람들이.. 목구멍이 포도청이니 하는것이지.....
[10:45] <ircCloud_autowiz> 경력이나 실력에 대한 가치가 평가절하 되어 있고 그전에도 그래왔었다는것도 문제가 되지 않을까 생각해봅니다.
[10:46] <jun> autowiz형님~
[10:47] <ircCloud_autowiz> 그러다보니까 작은 프로젝트에서 경력2~3년정도면 될껄 5년이상으로 적는경우도 생기고 ... 돈은 2년차 혹은 그 이하 개발자 쓸 돈밖에 안주고
[10:47] <pchero_work> 이런 이야기는 늘 있어왔고, 보아오던 일인데.. 막상 이렇게 표면으로 나오니 씁쓸해지네요.
[10:47] <ircCloud_autowiz> 준: 이번주는 언제 모임?
[10:47] <jun> ircCloud_autowiz 언제가 편하십니까?
[10:47] <ircCloud_autowiz> 히어로님은 그래도 국회에 나가 계시잖아요 ㅎㅎ
[10:47] <ircCloud_autowiz> 준: 나는 뭐 암때나 괜찮음
[10:47] <pchero_work> 그냥, 개발자들 임금이 너무 작은거죠. 어떻게든 조금이라도 더 받아보려니까 이런 저런 편법이 생기고...
[10:48] <ircCloud_autowiz> 국회 -> 국외 ... ㅋㅋ 큰일날뻔 했네요 ㅎㅎ
[10:48] <pchero_work> 저도 헉.
[10:48] <pchero_work> 기호 21번입니다. ㅋ
[10:48] <pchero_work> 1번, 2번 양쪽에 하나씩 걸쳐있는걸로.. ㅋ
[10:49] <ircCloud_autowiz> 1.2.1 번 ( 두 1번 사이에 2번이 있는모습으로 다가 ㅎㅎ )
[10:49] <jun> ircCloud_autowiz: 형 드시고 싶으신거 없으십니까? 스테이크 한번 썰러가셔야죠!!ggg
[10:49] <ircCloud_autowiz> 나는 지금 김치볶음밥이 먹고싶다
[10:49] <pchero_work> 에효.. 그냥 좀 슬프네요..
[10:50] <ircCloud_autowiz> 자꾸 현실을 외면해왔던건 아닌가 싶은 생각도 듭니다.
[10:50] <jun> ircCloud_autowiz: 김치볶음밥!!! 제가 또 끼깔나게 할수 있는데;;;;; 제방으로 초대하기도 좀 그렇구;;;;
[10:50] <pchero_work> ㅎㅎㅎ
[10:50] <ircCloud_autowiz> 다들 알고는 있었으나 제대로 이야기를 하거나 해보지는 않은 . .. 어쩌면 다들 그결과를 이미 알고 있어서 무서워서 그랬는지도 모르겠네요
[10:51] <jun> pchero_work: 지금 현실은 슬프지만.. 언젠간 실력이 뒤집는 날이 올꺼다 라는 생각으로 공부하고 있습니다;;;
[10:51] <ircCloud_autowiz> 준 : 그말은 내가 널 내방으로 초대하면 된다는 말이렸다 ㅋㅋㅋ
[10:51] <pchero_work> 그래서 열공중이시군요. ㅎㅎㅎㅎ 저도 마찬가지입니다. ㅎㅎㅎ
[10:52] <jun> ircCloud_autowiz: 형 방에 혼자 들어가기도 좁다고 하셨잖아요;;;;ㅎㅎㅎ
[10:52] <ircCloud_autowiz> 내 ... 위에 올라오렴 .... ㅋㅋ
[10:53] <jun> pchero_work: 뭐랄까...요새 회사에서 배우는게 나중에 도움이 될까? 라는 생각에 필드에서 배울까?라는 생각이 자꾸 교차해서 드는....11월입니다;;;(뭔소리일까요..?)
[10:53] <jun> ircCloud_autowiz: .......... 좀 야하지 않나요..?
[10:54] <pchero_work> jun: 간단하게, 둘 다 도움이 됩니다. 전부 똑같이.
[10:54] <ircCloud_autowiz> 음란마귀가 씌였군 ㅋㅋㅋ
[10:54] <jun> ircCloud_autowiz: 회사에서 접속하신게 아니신거 같은데 지금은 어디세요?
[10:54] <pchero_work> 어느것하나 소홀히 할 수 있는게 없어요. ㅎ
[10:54] <ipeter_> 음란마귀요?
[10:54] <ipeter_> 들어오자마자 갑자기 심쿵(?)한 단어가 보이네요.
[10:54] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[10:54] <ircCloud_autowiz> 회사음 .윈도우즈 8.1 설치하고 Qt 라이브러리 에러로 quassel 실행시 에러가남. ㅠㅠ
[10:54] <jun> ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[10:55] <ipeter_> 와. 확실히 음대 소녀들 심쿵하네요.
[10:55] <ircCloud_autowiz> 리눅스 머신은 바로 옆에 있는데키보드 위치가 좀 불편해서 ㅠㅠ
[10:55] <ipeter_> 음대 교수님 한분 알게 되었는데, 제자들 보는순간..
[10:55] <ircCloud_autowiz> 이쁘던가요 ㅎㅎ
[10:55] <ipeter_> 므. 흣. oㅅㅇ
[10:55] <ircCloud_autowiz> 회사음 -> 회사임.
[10:55] <ipeter_> 예쁜분은 예ㅃ구요.
[10:56] <ircCloud_autowiz> 참고로 저는 귀여운상이 좋습니다. ㅎㅎ
[10:56] <jun> 요샌 공대에도 여신이 탄생하는마당에;;;;ㅎㅎㅎ
[10:56] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[10:56] <ipeter_> 망치 톱들고 여신.
[10:56] <jun> 키보드랑 케이블 들고서 여신..
[10:56] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[10:56] <jun> 서버용 케이블 들고서 ..... 무섭겠다;;
[10:56] <ircCloud_autowiz> 언젠가 이런말이 돌았으면 좋겠습니다. ' 어느 대학에서는 김태희가 납땜한데~~ ㅋㅋㅋ"
[10:57] <jun> 우크라이나 대학 블로그를 찾아볼까요..? ㅎㅎㅎ
[10:58] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋ
[10:58] <ipeter_> 좋으네요.
[10:58] <ircCloud_autowiz> 아 그렇군요 ㅋㅋ 우크라이나가 여성 취업률 도 높고
[10:58] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[10:58] <ipeter_> 짱이군요.
[10:59] <ircCloud_autowiz> 길거리 아무대서나 사진찍어도 모델급들이 넘쳐난다는
[10:59] <ipeter_> 아...가슴떨려라...ㅠ
[10:59] <ipeter_> 우크라이나 고고고
[10:59] <ipeter_> 네 알았어요.
[10:59] <ircCloud_autowiz> 가서 정착하실지도 ㅋㅋㅋ
[11:02] <jun> 저도 우크라이나는 꼭 가보고 싶습니다!
[11:02] <jun> 여권도 없고 비행기를 타본적이 언젠지도 모르겠지만..우크라이나는 꼭 가보고 싶습니다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[11:02] <bluedusk> 저도
[11:02] <bluedusk> 저도 집에 꼭 가보고 싶습니다.
[11:03] <bluedusk> .... 우크라이나 따위 ... 집부터 좀.. 굽신굽신
[11:05] <jun> ......
[11:05] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3657451
[11:06] <jun> .....경력뻥튀기보다 이게 더 심한거 같은데요..?
[11:06] <HolyKnight> ㅋㅋㅋ
[11:10] <bluedusk> 헐
[11:10] <bluedusk> 홀리찡 실망이에요 ㅠㅠ
[11:12] <ipeter_> 사마휘님 계신가요?
[11:13] <samahui_WS> 안녕하세요
[11:13] <samahui_WS> 있으나 없는듯.. 그렇게 있습니다
[11:13] <ipeter_> 후훗
[11:13] <ipeter_> 인기쟁이 사마휘님.
[11:13] <ipeter_> 흥~
[11:13] <ipeter_> ㅋㅋ
[11:13] <ipeter_> 잘 계셨나요?
[11:14] <ipeter__> 맥 설치 다해놓고 다시 윈도우로
[11:14] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[11:14] <ircCloud_autowiz> 유투브에 보면 각도의 중요성이라는 동영상이 있을껍니다.
[11:14] <ipeter__> 아. 윈도우쓰다가 맥 쓰려니까
[11:14] <samahui_WS> 잘은 있으나 인기쟁이는 아닙니다 ㅎㅎ
[11:14] <ipeter__> 엄청 불편하네요.
[11:14] <ipeter__> =)
[11:14] <ipeter__> 근데 여기 기혼자분들 많으신가요?
[11:15] <samahui_WS> 맥쓰다 윈도우 쓰면 더 불편할겁니다
[11:15] <ipeter__> 하나 여쭤봐도 될까요?
[11:15] <ircCloud_autowiz> 같은 화장에서도 각도에 따라서 완전 다른사람을 보이는데 저 위에껀 화장전 사진이 모자라서 그냥 패스~
[11:16] <DarkCircle> ircCloud라니
[11:16] <DarkCircle> 부자 -ㅅ-
[11:16] <ipeter__> samahui_WS: 열렬하게 사랑하는 사람을 만나는게 중요하고 그런 사람과 결혼해야하나요
[11:16] <ircCloud_autowiz> 트라이얼인데요 ㅎㅎ
[11:16] <DarkCircle> 고뤠요 ?ㅅ?/
[11:16] <ipeter__> 아니면 그냥 결혼적령기가 되었으면 그냥 그런 사람과 만나서 적당히 결혼하는게 맞나요?
[11:17] <ipeter__> 그냥 뜬금없이 궁금해지네요.
[11:17] <samahui_WS> 결혼은 말그대로 결혼해서 이사람과는 힘들지 않겠다는 사람과 하는게 답이라고 봅니다
[11:17] <ipeter__> 30대 중반이 되니 더이상 제게 열렬하게하는 사랑은 없는듯 보여서 드리는 질문입니다.
[11:17] <ipeter__> 뭐 호르몬의 변화때문인가요.
[11:17] <samahui_WS> 열열히 사랑해도 사랑이 식었을때도 정두고 살수 있을지 봐야죠
[11:18] <ipeter__> 결론은 예쁘면 되는군요.
[11:18] <samahui_WS> 30대 중반 넘어도 열열히 사랑할수있습니다
[11:18] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[11:18] <ipeter__> 근데 그런 감정이 안들어요.
[11:18] <samahui_WS> 사랑에 나이가 어딛어요
[11:18] <ipeter__> 사람을 못만난건가요?
[11:18] <ipeter__> ㅠㅠ
[11:18] <samahui_WS> 너무 많은 경험은 독이죠 ㅎㅎ
[11:18] <ipeter__> 박물관 그 소녀라면...흠...정말 희대의 미모인데.ㅠ
[11:18] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[11:18] <samahui_WS> 얼마나 많이 만나보셨으면~
[11:18] <ipeter__> 아닙니다.
[11:18] <ipeter__> 이제 그만하겠습니다.
[11:18] <ipeter__> 잘 새겨듣겠습니다.
[11:19] <samahui_WS> 전 너무 이쁜것도 별로라고 생각합니다. 이쁘면 파리가 꼬이는법
[11:19] <ipeter__> 결혼해서 이사람과 힘들지 않겠다는 사람과 하는게 답...
[11:19] <samahui_WS> 능력되고 힘되시면 상관없지만... 아니면 피곤해집니다 정신적으로다가
[11:19] <ipeter__> 그렇게 말씀해주신는분 처음이셔요.
[11:19] <samahui_WS> 제눈에 이쁜게 이쁜겁니다
[11:19] <ipeter__> 능력 없어요..ㅠ 패쓰..ㅠ
[11:19] <ipeter__> 넹넹..
[11:19] <ipeter__> 제눈에 콩깍지.
[11:19] <ipeter__> ㅠ
[11:20] <samahui_WS> 전 연예인 한다는 애도 사귀어보고 정말 이쁘다 싶은애도 사귀어 봤는데 정작 결혼은 과후배랑 했어요 ㅎㅎ;;
[11:20] <samahui_WS> 사람일 모르는겁니다
[11:20] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[11:20] <samahui_WS> 말이 통하고 이해해주고 서로 노력해주는 거런거죠
[11:20] <ircCloud_autowiz> 그래도 사모님이 잴 아름다우신거겠지요
[11:20] <samahui_WS> 서로 맞춰가는거
[11:20] <ipeter__> 과 후배분...정말 격정적으로 사랑하는 그런 감정 가지고 연애하셨나요?
[11:20] <samahui_WS> 공대 나왔습니다
[11:20] <samahui_WS> OTL
[11:20] <ipeter__> 와. 진짜 감정이 식어버린걸까요. 그럴 대상을 못만나서 인가요.
[11:21] <samahui_WS> 이쁜게 뭔가요? ㅎ ㅎ
[11:21] <ipeter__> ㅠㅠㅠ
[11:21] <samahui_WS> 내눈에 이쁘고 귀엽죠
[11:21] <ipeter__> ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
[11:21] <samahui_WS> 결혼은요 혼자 맘에 든다고 절대 안되요
[11:21] <ipeter__> 부럽습니다 사마휘님.
[11:21] <ipeter__> ㅠㅠ
[11:21] <samahui_WS> 여자쪽도 똑같이 생각할껄요?
[11:21] <ipeter__> 헐.
[11:21] <samahui_WS> 서로 마음이 맞고 대화가 되는 그런 상대에 서로를 위하는 그런 마음가짐을 가지고 하는게 결혼입니다
[11:22] <samahui_WS> 더불어 양가 집안의 만남인지라 집안도 너무 격차나면 서로 피곤합니다
[11:22] <samahui_WS> 뭐 다 극복할정도로 사랑하면 하는것이긴한데... 보통은 힘들죠
[11:22] <ipeter__> 와.
[11:22] <ipeter__> 금과옥조같은 말씀들.
[11:22] <samahui_WS> 처음에 눈에 콩깍지 씌우면 다 괜찮아보이는데 살다보면 보입니다
[11:22] <ipeter__> 흠...
[11:23] <samahui_WS> 보일때 받아들이고 이해하려하고 서로 모자란곳 채워주고 그러면 결혼생활이 행복한거고
[11:23] <samahui_WS> 그게 안되면 맨날 싸우다 파탄나는거죠
[11:24] <ipeter__> 기혼자분 써니님은 눈팅만 하시는걸까요.
[11:24] <ipeter__> 조언 잘해주시는데..ㅠ 써니님~
[11:24] <ipeter__> 또 좋은말씀좀 주세요.
[11:24] <ipeter__> 와. 사마휘님 말씀듣다보니 기혼자분들 멋있구나..
[11:25] <samahui_WS> 근데 남녀사는 누가 뭐라해줟조 소용없어요
[11:25] <ipeter__> +_+
[11:25] <ipeter__> 네..
[11:25] <samahui_WS> 지들 눈맞아서 살면 막을수 없듯이요
[11:25] <samahui_WS> 알아서 스스로 잘 하는 수 밖에 없죠
[11:25] <samahui_WS> 일예로 정말 사람이 아니라 결혼이나 사귀는거 반대했는데 결국 둘이 결혼하고 그거 반대하던 친구와는 척지는 경우고 보게되죠
[11:25] <ipeter__> 흠...
[11:26] <ipeter__> 흠...그렇군요..
[11:26] <samahui_WS> 남 가정사 연애사는 감나와라 배나와라 할일이 아니죠... 다만 참고만
[11:26] <samahui_WS> 참고 정도 되는거죠...
[11:26] <samahui_WS> 원앙이 행복해 보인다고 황새가 원앙처럼 살면 행복할까요? 각자 맞는 삶이 있는거죠
[11:27] <ipeter__> 와... +_+
[11:28] <ipeter__> 짱이다..
[11:28] <ipeter__> 고맙습니다.
[11:28] <ipeter__> 새겨듣겠습니다.
[11:28] <jun> 새겨듣겠습니다!
[11:36] <jun> 저는 이만 퇴근이라는것을 해보도록 하겠습니다! ㅎㅎㅎ
[11:37] <jun> 수고하세요~
[11:37] <samahui_WS> 수고하... 가셨군요.. 잘가세요
[11:37] <samahui_WS> 전 야근을 준비하겠습니다 푸하하하~
[11:53] <pchero_work> http://bbs1.ruliweb.daum.net/gaia/do/ruliweb/default/hobby/2458/read?articleId=350097&bbsId=G002&itemId=47&t__nil_ruliweb=best&nil_id=0
[11:53] <pchero_work> 후덜덜 하네요... ㅎㅎ
[11:55] <ipeter__> 후덜덜입니다.
[11:55] <ipeter__> samahui_WS: 저도 야근중입니다.
[11:55] <ipeter__> ㅠㅠㅠ
[11:57] <samahui_WS> 아근은 숙명이죠
[12:04] <samahui_tp> TP의 꽃인 트렉포인트가 처음으로 말썽이네요
[12:04] <samahui_tp> 우분투에서 한번도 그런적 없는데 민트 데비안버젼 깔았더니 가운데 스크롤이 죽어도 안되는군요..
[12:05] <samahui_tp> 이거이거... 쓸데 없는걸로 시간 보내게 생겼네요.
[12:07] <commania> 티피홀릭에서 익숙한 닉넴을 보고 달려왔습니다
[12:07] <commania> X220 FHD 개조 저도 참 좋아하는데요!
[12:08] <commania> FHD 개조를 할까 그냥 대충쓰다 차기 씽패로 넘어갈까 고민 중에 사마휘님 게시글 보고 또 뽐뿌가 와서
[12:09] <commania> 달려왔습니다~_~
[12:10] <commania> 직접 부품을 구해 개조를 진행하신건가요?
[12:31] <samahui_tp> 직접 부품을 구해서 작업하다가 시간이 없어서 포기했어요 ㅎㅎ
[12:31] <samahui_tp> FHD 제품은 주문 제작 한겁니다
[12:39] <ircCloud_autowiz> 기생수 파트2 블루레이가 나왔나봅니다.
[12:40] <samahui_tp> 기생수가 그 기생수 맞나요? 오른손이?
[12:40] <samahui_tp> 영화로 나왔나보군요?
[12:40] <samahui_tp> 그러고보니 본거 같기도... ㅎㅎ;;
[12:41] <ircCloud_autowiz> 네 파트1에서 (저는 만화책을 본적이 없어서) 오른손이 보고 귀여워서 ㅋㅋㅋ
[12:41] <ircCloud_autowiz> 꽤 잘 나온 영화라고 생각합니다.
[12:42] <ircCloud_autowiz> 물론 사마휘님도 꽤 잘 생기셨을꺼라고 생각합니다.
[12:57] <samahui_tp> 전 잘생겼습니다
[12:57] <samahui_tp> 인정해버리겠습니다
[12:57] <samahui_tp> 푸하하하하
[12:57] <DarkCircle> 엌
[12:58] <ircCloud_autowiz> 역시 남자다 ㅎㅎㅎ
[12:58] <ircCloud_autowiz> 하긴 사마휘형님은 원래부터 남자였... ㅎㅎ
[12:58] <samahui_tp> 기생수는 만화책을 보세요... 전 잔인해서 좀 거슬리기도 했지만 내용상 재미있었다고 기억합니다 ㅎㅎ
[12:58] <samahui_tp> 네 저는 남자입니다
[12:58] <samahui_tp> 다행이 남자입니다... 여자였다면... 생각하기도 싫습니다
[12:59] <ircCloud_autowiz> 왜요 저는 여자로 태어났으면 더 재미있게 살았을거 같은데요 ㅋ
[12:59] <ircCloud_autowiz> 가죽 슈트에 빨간색 스포츠 오토바이 캬~~
[12:59] <samahui_tp> 이 성격에 여자면... 시집을 어찌갈가요 싶어요 ㅎㅎ
[13:00] <samahui_tp> 그냥 남자라 다행입니다 ㅎㅎ
[13:03] <samahui_tp> 여자로 태어났으면... 여탕을 들어가 볼 수... 아! 의미가 없군요
[13:04] * DarkCircle 철컹철컹
[13:05] <ircCloud_autowiz> 저는 여탕 들어가 봤 ...
[13:05] <samahui_tp> ㅎㅎ;;
[13:06] <bluedusk> 저
[13:09] <samahui_tp> 다클님 오랜만에 뵙습니다 ㅎㅎ
[13:29] <crixer> DarkCircle: 다클님 그거 어떻게하나요??
[13:29] <crixer> 굵은글씨!
[13:30] <DarkCircle> 글쎄요 hexchat이라면 /me 쓰시면 되는데 다른 클라이언트는 모르겠습니다.
[13:30] <DarkCircle> 그리고 /me 메시지는 가끔 쓰는 용도예요.
[13:31] <DarkCircle> samahui_tp, (_ _ ) 너부죽 .
[13:32] * crixer haha
[13:32] <crixer> 오 감사합니다
[13:32] <crixer> irc는 보통 대게다 비슷하더라고요
[13:32] <DarkCircle> RFC 표준이니까요.
[13:32] <crixer> 정해진 약속이라도 있는거마냥 클라이언트들이 다 비슷하더라고요 ㅋㅋ
[13:33] <crixer> 그렇군요
[13:42] <DarkCircle> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2812
[14:35] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3662600&cpage=1
[14:51] <ircCloud_autowiz> 현피 뜨고싶어 안달난 사람들이 많나 봅니다 ㅠㅠ
[14:52] <ircCloud_autowiz> 꺄~~ 야만적이야 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
[14:53] <HolyKnight> zz
[14:54] <samahui_tp> 아이디어 자체는 재미있네요... 다만 현실에서 저걸 다운로드해서 하는 사람이 있을거라는 사실이... 흠...
[14:57] <DarkCircle> 새벽반 스톼투.
[14:57] <samahui_tp> 아직 3분여 남았다고 아뢰오~
[14:58] <DarkCircle> 옛날에 스타했을때는 막 ㄱㄱ ㄱㄱㄱ 이랬는데 ㅋㅋㅋ
[14:59] <samahui_tp> 그럼... ㄱㄱ
[14:59] <DarkCircle> ......
[14:59] <DarkCircle> 10
[14:59] <DarkCircle> 5
[14:59] <DarkCircle> 4
[14:59] <DarkCircle> 3
[14:59] <DarkCircle> 2
[14:59] <DarkCircle> 1
[15:00] <DarkCircle> 0
[15:00] <samahui_tp> gogo
[15:00] <ircCloud_autowiz> 고고싱~~
[15:00] <DarkCircle> ~(~_~)~
[15:00] <DarkCircle> = =)/
[15:00] <jun> ==)
[15:01] <jun> DarkCircle: 오랫만에 인사드립니다~ ㅎㅎㅎ
[15:01] <jun> autowiz: 형 계십니까~??
[15:01] <DarkCircle> (_ _ ) 너부죽 .
[15:01] <jun> 우와.... 이모티콘을 잘 만드시네요
[15:02] <ircCloud_autowiz> 예전에는 그래픽 이모티콘이 없었으니까능 ㅎㅎ
[15:03] <jun> ircCloud_autowiz: 홍대는 수,목 신촌은 목요일만 가능합니다~ 이번에는 8시 기준입니다
[15:03] <ircCloud_autowiz> (ㅡ_ㅡ);;;
[15:03] <jun> ~m(^0^)m~ 호빵맨~
[15:03] <jun> 이러고 놀았으랬죠 ㅎㅎㅎ
[15:03] <ircCloud_autowiz> 신촌 으로 할까?
[15:04] <jun> 신촌좋죠~ ㅎㅎ
[15:04] <jun> 그럼 목요일 신촌으로 할께요~
[15:05] <jun> 목요일에 일정 만들어서 일찍 끝내고 이대 가서 박물관 들러봐야겠다 ㅎㅎㅎ
[15:06] <bluedusk> 헐
[15:06] <bluedusk> 또 데이트 하시는군요
[15:06] <bluedusk> 부럽네요
[15:07] <autowiz_> alternative quassel 다운받아서 설치했습니다. 아오 3일만에 해결
[15:07] <jun> autowiz: 신촌본점이구요 12일 오후 8시입니다
[15:09] <autowiz_> 음냐
[15:09] <autowiz_> 알겠음 . 목요일날 보세~
[15:09] <jun> autowiz: 네~ ㅎㅎ
[15:10] <jun> bluedusk: 데이트를 빙자한... 신촌투어겠죠..? ㅎㅎㅎ
[15:11] <jun> 저는 숙면을 취하러 물러나겠습니다;;;; 굿밤되세요~ (낮인분들은 수고하세요)
[15:12] <autowiz_> 풀스택 ( 주간 + 야간 )
[15:12] <DarkCircle> 엌
[15:12] <DarkCircle> 풀스택은 그런 의미가 아니자나욬
[15:12] <autowiz_> ( 초보 + 고수 ) , ( UI + Core )
[15:13] <autowiz_> ( 잘생긴얼굴 + 큰키 ) 이건 사마휘 형님이고 ㅎㅎ
[15:13] <autowiz_> 스카이프에서 모르는 여자가 연락처를 달라고 합니다. ㅋㅋㅋ
[15:14] <autowiz_> 당연히 ... 삭제~ ㅋㅋ
[15:14] <bluedusk> 헐 벌써 자다니
[15:14] <bluedusk> 난 사무실인데...ㄷㄷ
[15:15] <autowiz_> 더스크님도 오늘 야근이신가보네요 ㅠㅠ
[15:15] <DarkCircle> 전 스카이프 계정 맛이 가서 -_-...
[15:16] <autowiz> 저도 한 2년만에 접속해보는거 같습니다 ㅋㅋ
[15:20] <DarkCircle> MS에 내계정맞다니까! 했는데 답이 없네요 ㅡ,.ㅡ
[15:21] <DarkCircle> 도데체 이잉간들 아얘 계정을 복구시켜줄 맘이 없는듯.
[15:21] <DarkCircle> 전 연락할 사람이 있는데 -_-
[15:21] <samahui_tp> 저도 그렇게 계정 하나가 잠들어있죠... 윈도우패드와 함께...
[15:21] <DarkCircle> MSN 없애면서 그게 skype로 넘어갔는데
[15:22] <DarkCircle> 속된 말로 ㅂㅅ 됐어요.
[15:22] <DarkCircle> .....................................
[15:22] <DarkCircle> 중동이나 동남아 이쪽은 야후메신저나 스카이프 많이 씀.
[15:36] <autowiz> ms 가 스카이프를 산건지 윈도우즈 8.1 에 스카이프가 디폴트로 ㅋㅋ 로그인도 ms 계정으로 할 수 있게 되었고
[15:42] <DarkCircle> 하... 그래도 전 못씀 ㅁㄴㅇㄹ
[15:42] <DarkCircle> 쓰라고 내놓은건지 /_\ (우울)
[15:42] <DarkCircle> 클레임 답도 없네요
[15:46] <HolyKnight> http://mnews.joins.com/article/19025417?cloc=joongang%7carticle%7chotclick
[15:48] <DarkCircle> PT를 잘 해야 하는건 맞긴 한데 그 PT 내용을 제대로 심사 안하는게 이상한거죠 ㅋㅎㅎ 그리고 그걸 심사하는 사람들은 기업체 전략팀에 있는 사람들이 직접 와서 태클걸고 이런식으로 가야 맞는건데 심사 위원 구성은 실제로 그렇게 안되어 있는걸로.
[18:16] <Work^Seony> 안녕하세요
[18:21] <autowiz> 안녕하세요~~ ㅎㅎ
[18:22] <Work^Seony> 사무실에 아예 커피 내리는 기계를 갖다놓고 아침마다 내려서 마시니까 편하긴 하네요 ㅎㅎ
[18:27] <autowiz> 보통 커피 몇잔이나 드시나요? ㅎㅎ
[18:27] <Work^Seony> 음...
[18:27] <Work^Seony> 하루 한 잔만 마시는데요, 그 한 잔의 크기가 꽤 큽니다 ㅎㅎ
[18:29] <autowiz> ㅋㅋ
[18:30] <Work^Seony> 한 700ml 되는거 같아요
[18:31] <Work^Seony> 근데, 그냥 커피를 내려마시는 것만 하니까 아무래도 믹스 커피 같은 것에 비해서는 카페인 섭취량이 비교할 수 없을만큼 적죠
[20:49] <Work^Seony> 아 이거 조낸 웃기네요 https://www.facebook.com/nixcraft/videos/1180213231992053/?pnref=story
[20:50] <DarkCircle> http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/11/09/1748237/us-spends-1bn-over-a-decade-trying-to-digitize-immigration-forms-just-1-is-online
[20:50] <DarkCircle> 미국 쩌네요.
[20:50] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 뭐 돈지랄이죠
[20:50] <DarkCircle> 이민 신청서 전자 플랫폼 처리하는데 수십년동안 10억 달러 규모를 갖다 쏟아 부었는데
[20:50] <DarkCircle> 한국은 이거에 비하면 뭐 ...
[20:51] <DarkCircle> 에휴 ...
[20:51] <DarkCircle> 뭐 말은 돈지랄인데 그만큼 투자를 아끼지 않는다는 얘기죠.
[20:51] <DarkCircle> 한국은 각오하고 돈을 쏟아부을 수가 없는게 국가 돈줄이 말라서 ...
[20:52] <DarkCircle> 정부기관 요새 분위기 보면 비용이나 이런거 함부로 청구 못하게 해요. 엄청나게 조임.
[20:53] <DarkCircle> systemd 메시지 번역 한다고 좀 하다가 메일 확인하고 그러는데 벌써 6시군요 -.-;
[21:01] <Work^Seony> 그렇군요
[21:01] <Work^Seony> 보통 IT하면 비용이 많이 드는 분야로 고정관념이 박힌 것도 있을 거에요
[21:01] <DarkCircle> 근데 한국은 뭔가 좀 반대로 생각해요.
[21:02] <DarkCircle> 실질적으로 돈이 들어가는건 소프트웨어 유지 보수비용인데
[21:02] <DarkCircle> 하드웨어에 돈이 더 많이 들어가고
[21:02] <DarkCircle> 소프트웨어는 원래 덤으로 주는거다 그런식으로.
[21:02] <DarkCircle> 소프트웨어 쪽은 당연히 비용이 많이 들어가고 그만큼 많이 비용을 부어야 하는게 맞는거죠.
[21:02] <DarkCircle> 솔루션 비용일 수도 있지만 대부분은 인건비거든요.
[21:03] <Work^Seony> 글쵸
[21:03] <Work^Seony> 뭔가 손에 잡히지 않으면 재산으로 치지 않아왔던 문화가 일조하는거 같네요
[21:03] <DarkCircle> 아 근데 코드 몇줄 짜주는거 당연히 해야 된다고 생각하니까 열라답답 ..
[21:03] <DarkCircle> 한줄 짜주는데도 인건비가 들어가는건데 그까이꺼 서비스 아니냐? 하는거 있죠.
[21:04] <DarkCircle> 열정 페이란게 그래서 그렇게 나오는거더군요.
[21:04] <Work^Seony> ㅎㅎ 뭐 얘기하면 속터지죠
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 그런데 이문제란게요. 사실 근원을 거슬러 올라가다보니까
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 한국의 온정주의 때문인거 같은데
[21:05] <DarkCircle> 원칙대로라면 정량정가잖아요?
[21:05] <Work^Seony> 네 그게 원칙이긴 하죠
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 근데 거래하는 관계에 있어서 이런게 있더라고요.
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 서로 거래하다가 좀 마음이 맞거나 그러면 좀 더 줘도 손해 안나겠다 생각하고
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 덤으로 그냥 얼마 더 얹어주는거.
[21:06] <DarkCircle> 근데 그게 호의인데 이게 반복되니까 당연히 줘야 한다고 생각하는 그런식으로 변질이 되는거더라고요.
[21:07] <Work^Seony> 네 글쵸 ㅎㅎ 근데 뭐 그건 여기도 그래요
[21:07] <Work^Seony> 사람 심리가 다 그런거죠
[21:10] <DarkCircle> 마지못해 해주는거랑 알아서 해주는거랑은 다르다고 생각하는데
[21:10] <DarkCircle> 한국은 거래 관계에서 어느샌가부터 그게 조절이 잘 안되는듯.
[21:11] <DarkCircle> 오히려 소규모 영세일수록 그게 잘되고, 거대기업일 수록 쫀쫀하고 ...
[21:11] <Work^Seony> 그걸 당연히 하는건 좀 문제가 있낀 해요
[21:11] <DarkCircle> 네
[21:11] <Work^Seony> 미국에서는 너무나도 당연히 그런건 없다고 생각하거든요
[21:12] <DarkCircle> 딱 선을 긋는게 있죠.
[21:15] <DarkCircle> 그렇다고 너무 자대고 칼로 긋듯이 가면 너무 인정머리 없어보이기도 하긴 하겠지만 ...
[21:15] <DarkCircle> 그래도 기본은 선긋기가 ...
[23:21] <autowiz_> 우리나라에는 땅따먹기라는 민족 고유의 선긋기 문화가 있습니다만 ㅡㅡ;; 정작 선은 잘 못 긋는거 같습니다. ㅋㅋ
[23:23] <Work^Seony> 진짜사나이에서 해병대 갔었네요
[23:23] <Work^Seony> 오랫만에 옛날 생각할겸 밥 먹으면서 봐야겠네요 ㅎㅎ
[23:37] <autowiz_> 허허 서니님께는 그렇게 되는군요 .... 옛날생각 ㄷㄷㄷ
[23:41] <Work^Seony> 그럴 수밖에 없는게, 해병대는 훈련소가 하나잖아요
[23:41] <Work^Seony> 그래서, 선후임 개념이 성립되기도 하지만,
[23:41] <Work^Seony> 훈련소가 하나라서 대부분의 추억을 해병대 출신끼리 교감할 수 있거든요
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-release
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[00:33] <wxl> lubuntu having a problem with alternates apparently with missing packages libdpkg-perl and libfile-fcntllock-perl http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/xenial/daily-20151108.log
[00:36] <wxl> is this due to priority mismatches again? i do see them on the list http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/priority-mismatches.html
[01:21] <wxl> anyone mind if i add 14.04.4 to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule ?
[01:22] <wxl> well i'm going to do it
[01:22] <wxl> someone revert it if they don't like it
[02:27] <infinity> wxl: As a general rule, it's not up to random people to decide release dates.
[02:28] <wxl> infinity: well, it does seem to follow a definitive pattern. at least i saved you the work of adding all the extra rows XD
[02:28] <infinity> There is that. I hate that bit. :P
[02:29] <wxl> hehehe
[02:29] <wxl> infinity: btw, is it release-team's job to deal with tthe priority mismatches or is that some other team?
[02:29] <infinity> wxl: archive admins. Though, lots of overlap.
[02:30] <wxl> infinity: so am i ok to ask for help here or should i go elsewhere?
[02:30] <infinity> Oh interesting. Whatever pulled all that junk into important in wily got fixed and now I get to demote it all. Whee.
[02:30] <infinity> wxl: Here is fine. I'll fix it all right now.
[02:31] <wxl> infinity: k thx very much sir!
[10:58] <jamespage> please could the haproxy upload I made for wily be rejected; missing a corner case with multi-process haproxy configurations
[10:59] <didrocks> jamespage: done
[16:12] <yofel> would someone be so kind to release bug 1509334 to wily-updates? thanks
[16:14] <davmor2> yofel: why would you want to release a bug into the release ;)
[16:15] <yofel> heh, ok, that wording could be improved, right ^^
[16:48] <bdmurray> infinity: Could you have a look at my apport SRUs for bug 1512902?
[16:58] <infinity> bdmurray: If you say pretty please.
[17:08] <infinity> bdmurray: Which release(s)?
[17:09] <bdmurray> infinity: V, T and P - please
[17:10] <infinity> bdmurray: Already fixed in wily?
[17:10] <bdmurray> infinity: The fix is in -proposed for W and aging.
[17:10] * infinity nods.
[17:11] <infinity> bdmurray: Looking now, then.
[17:16] <teward> infinity: whenever you get the chance, could you review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/electrum/+bug/1499094 regarding making 'electrum' binaries dummies in older releases, using the 'bitcoin' package as such precedent? No rush at all, though it's been sitting for a while. (very minor thing in the list of things I have to look at :P)
[17:25] <infinity> bdmurray: Done, done, and done.
[17:25] <bdmurray> infinity: thanks
[17:26] <infinity> teward: Not really around today (activity above to the contrary), can you remind me another time?
[17:29] <teward> infinity: sure, will do. :)
[17:29] <teward> i actually *forgot* about it until recently xD
[21:45] <stgraber> Laney, micahg: updated LXD backport for trusty ^
[21:45] <stgraber> *LXC, sorry
[22:13] <stgraber> and those are the matching SRUs for the release where we have LXC 1.1 ^
[23:38] <stgraber> and that's the LXC stable release for trusty ^
[23:38] <stgraber> with that, I'm done with this round of stable updates, going back to working on new stuff :)
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-motu
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[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.881857
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2015-11-09-#lubuntu
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[08:43] <Hadi> Hello
[08:44] <Hadi> I have some question about lubuntu
[08:44] <Hadi> Is anyone here?
[08:45] <bioterror> !ask
[08:49] <Hadi> I downloades Lubuntu AMD64 for my laptop,Can I use it for my PC or I have to dowbload 32 bit version?
[08:50] <Hadi> My pc : 3 GB ram, CPU 3700 ,Grapgic card 128 MB
[08:50] <Hadi> Hard 160 GB
[08:50] <Hadi> Thanks a lot
[08:51] <bioterror> needs more info regarding the CPU
[08:53] <Hadi> CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.6 GHz
[09:12] <Hadi> Is the information ok?
[09:14] <bioterror> yes, it works but I it will not be as nice as 32bit would be with that ammount of RAM
[09:18] <Hadi> Ok Thanks a lot
[09:18] <Hadi> Good luck
[14:49] <goldalex> hello, how to make working shorcut to executable game file in new lubuntu ?
[14:54] <aedigital> goldalex, see: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/177386/how-can-i-add-applications-to-the-lxpanel-application-launch-bar-via-cli
[14:57] <aedigital> or: http://askubuntu.com/questions/466395/how-can-i-create-a-quick-launcher-in-lubuntu
[18:08] <Langley> How do I turn off display compositing, so I can use Compton instead
[18:12] <redwolf> Langley, the only way is "killing" compton
[18:12] <redwolf> pkill compton
[18:12] <Langley> What? But Compton is what I wanna use
[18:12] <Langley> Or are you saying that Lubuntu already uses compton?
[18:13] <redwolf> ah sorry :D
[18:13] <redwolf> what window manager are you using now?
[18:13] <redwolf> Compiz?
[18:13] <Langley> I don't know, whatever is default
[18:13] <Langley> In 15.10
[18:14] <redwolf> then you don't have compositing yet
[18:14] <redwolf> just run compton
[18:14] <redwolf> Lubuntu comes without composition. you have to install compton and tun it
[18:14] <redwolf> *run it
[18:14] <redwolf> Langley, http://lubuntu.me/tip-compton/
[18:15] <Langley> Wut...
[18:15] <redwolf> then you can add it to startup by using lxsession-default-apps
[18:16] <redwolf> any problem, Langley?
[18:17] <Langley> I thought compositing was required for graphical interfaces... then I dont even know what it is
[18:17] <redwolf> no
[18:17] <redwolf> compositing is a kind of app that uses some graphic resources to enable your desktop doing some special things
[18:18] <redwolf> like Compiz uses OpenGL of some Ati / Nvidia / etc. cards to enable effects
[18:18] <redwolf> Compton does the same using less resources, and of course, less effects
[18:19] <redwolf> you can run them or not :)
[18:21] <Langley> Is there any reason it's not included by default? To save resources?
[18:21] <redwolf> yes, and some graphics cards don't support those effects
[18:23] <Langley> In case it fixes my stuttering problem, I think it should be included... the stuttering is one of the worst things of linux
[18:23] <redwolf> anyway, once activate you are telling the gpu core (not cpu) to handle the screen drawing, so window movement can be a bit more fluid
[18:23] <redwolf> stuttering? in your screen?
[18:24] <Langley> In videos
[18:24] <redwolf> oh that, I don't think a compositor fixes that. have you tried using proprietary drivers or your graphics card?
[18:26] <Langley> The usual suggestion is to install Compton. But yeah the next step would be to install the blasted AMD drivers
[18:27] <redwolf> that would fix that. and you may need the drivers to make compton work properly
[18:30] <Langley> So compositing is only 10 years old, huh...
[18:30] <Langley> For linux anyways
[18:32] <redwolf> :9
[18:32] <redwolf> :)
[18:33] <redwolf> actually, if you look at the wikipedia page, Commodore tried to do it in 1985
[18:34] <Langley> Yes... rip...
[18:34] <redwolf> no shadows or effects, but the goal was that applications stopped drawing themselves in the graphic memory. there was a "module" for that task
[18:35] <redwolf> then OSX "invented" Quartz, the same module tweaked, with some pieces of GNUStep able to drop shadows and produce 3D effects
[18:36] <redwolf> but the idea is always the same: direct rendering
[18:36] <Langley> I tried that GNUstep out on top of Arch some time ago... wtf is that stuff? A DE for museums?
[18:39] <redwolf> :D actually there's a new ISO now
[18:40] <redwolf> it's basically OSX / iOS without all the makeup
[23:50] <iynque> I was upgrading 15.04 to 15.10 and I noticed “scienze” http://pastebin.com/8qMzuU7e
[23:50] <iynque> :D
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-pl
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[07:26] <Ashiren> 1st
[08:28] <scet> Panowie przeinstalowałem swoje ubuntu 14.10 i z menu kontekstowego zniknęła mi opcja otwórz jak administrator. Wcześniej w ten sposób szybko mogłem edytować pliki teraz tego nie ma :/
[08:28] <scet> wie ktoś może jak to przywrócić?
[08:30] <firemark> scet: użyj sudo gedit/nano
[08:30] <firemark> i nie rób nam wstydu
[08:30] <firemark> ;P
[08:30] <scet> tak robię
[08:30] <scet> ale było szybciej
[08:30] <firemark> a tam szybciej.
[08:31] <scet> na serwerze tak robie
[08:31] <scet> a tu mam unity
[08:31] <scet> :/
[08:31] <firemark> mnie unity zawsze przerażało ;P
[08:32] <scet> heh
[08:32] <firemark> no ale ja dnia nie zaczynam bez 4 terminali
[08:32] <firemark> bo wstyd
[08:32] <scet> hahah
[08:32] <scet> ja jestem zbyt leniwy :)
[08:33] <firemark> no ja też :D myszka za daleko
[09:16] <gjm> 4 terminale
[09:16] <gjm> typowy haker
[09:17] <firemark> typowy firemark
[09:19] <sysek> ja mam jeden
[09:19] <sysek> i to bez tmux czy screena
[09:19] <sysek> i wszystko operuja na jednym
[09:21] <Bodzioslaw> jestem tak leniwy, że nawet nie chce mi sie czasem terminala wlaczyc
[09:21] <Bodzioslaw> :/
[09:21] <Bodzioslaw> dobrze, że jest tmux
[09:28] <sysek> bez tmuxa
[09:32] <Bodzioslaw> bez tmuxa nie ma zycia
[09:32] <Bodzioslaw> nic nie istnieje
[09:33] <gjm> tmux is love
[09:33] <gjm> tmux is lif
[09:33] <gjm> e
[09:33] <Bodzioslaw> gjm++
[09:33] <sysek> życie na hardkorze
[09:34] <Bodzioslaw> zycie na krawedzi
[09:34] <Bodzioslaw> ~amd64
[09:34] <Bodzioslaw> Dread: siseł zrobił accept_keywords=**
[09:35] <Bodzioslaw> :--D
[09:45] <Dread> Bodzioslaw: bywa :D
[22:13] <d42> http://i.imgur.com/zaHnxkK.jpg
[22:13] <d42> :3
[22:15] <firemark> rotfl
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.905416
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-kernel
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[12:07] <jtaylor> hi, the lts-wily git is in a different location than the 3.x lts, will that stay like this?
[12:09] <jtaylor> the btrfs read corruption fixes that went into 3.x recently don't seem to be in 4.2 but I also don't know where the review branch is :/
[13:39] <apw> jtaylor, in a different place? how so ?
[14:30] <jtaylor> apw: there are only 3.19 branches at kernel.ubuntu.com
[14:30] <jtaylor> while 4.2 seems to be on launchpad
[14:31] <apw> jtaylor, could you give me the URLs you are referring to
[14:32] <apw> jtaylor, as my ubuntu-trusty tree seems to have lts-backport-iwly in it
[14:32] <jtaylor> apw: kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/linux.git
[14:32] <apw> jtaylor, that is just the stable trees, and 4.2 isn't under stable maintenance by us as yet i don't believe
[14:33] <apw> jtaylor, so that would be in gregkh's trees and he produced only the quilt forms
[14:33] <apw> jtaylor, but either way they don't represent the ubuntu kernel source
[14:34] <jtaylor> apw: what is the right one then?
[14:34] <jtaylor> I think I got that from the ubuntu docs
[14:34] <jtaylor> but that might have been a long time ago
[14:34] <apw> jtaylor, if you are looking for the source for linux-lts-wily in trusty that is on the lts-backport-wily branch in the ubuntu-trusty tree
[14:42] <jtaylor> apw: thx, what is the relation of that tree to the stable tree? will patches from the stable go into the lts backports?
[14:43] <jtaylor> seems lts-vivid is lagging ~3 month behind stable 3.19
[14:43] <apw> jtaylor, generally the answer to that is yes, we follow and apply the vast majority of the stable updates to the trees
[14:45] <apw> jtaylor, really? vivid seems to have -ckt8 applied and -ckt9 is the latest
[14:46] <apw> which would make it a couple of weeks behind, which with us being at the start of a 3 week cycle, would be unsupprising
[14:46] <jtaylor> apw: I just looked at the btfs tree, last update there was in july
[14:46] <jtaylor> there have been a bunch of important fixes in stable since then
[14:46] <apw> jtaylor, do you have an example of a missing commit
[14:47] <jtaylor> though maybe they only got merged in recently so its probably ok
[14:49] <apw> jtaylor, if they are in -ctk9 then they will be in the next kernel upload
[14:49] <jtaylor> apw: 3276852 e.g. is from aug, but thats probably the author date not when it actually went into stable
[14:50] <jtaylor> so its probably fine
[14:50] <jtaylor> now I know where to look so I'll be patient, thanks
[14:52] <apw> jtaylor, right that appears in -ckt8, and vivid is -ckt7 in the last cycle, so we can expect that to be applied any day now for the next cycle
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-tr
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[07:28] <ogny> gunaydin
[07:29] <ogny> ubuntu'nun network manager'iyla sorun yasayan var mi
[09:36] <Kartagis> avconv ile altyazı gömen oldu mu hiç?
[11:27] <ogny> yok valla
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.912598
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu+1
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[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:49] <ubuntun00b> Hi all. I hosed my ubuntu installation. I'm trying to reinstall using the xenial daily image. I have to choose manual install with everything on one drive. I DONT want to delete my home folder. Do i have to set my partition mount point to '/' and NOT check the format box. is that all I have to do and ubuntu will reinstall and keep all my data?
[08:50] <lordievader> ubuntun00b: You rather want to create a seperate /home and sync all the data to there.
[08:53] <ubuntun00b> there is no option to do that. it wouldn't give me the option to upgrade my installation. i don't see that option anywhere. are you saying i should rename my /home partition first?
[08:53] <lordievader> The option is there, it is just more manual work ;)
[08:54] <lordievader> You resize your current root-fs, create a new /home, sync all the stuff. Then set the installer to format the root-fs and mount the /home to /home.
[08:56] <ubuntun00b> why resize the partition? isn't that more risky than just using the existing partition but just don't format anything?
[08:56] <jtaylor> lordievader: I think / needs to always be formatted
[08:56] <lordievader> jtaylor: No, but it is recommended to format /.
[08:57] <jtaylor> else installation would just overwrite stuff and leave other stuff leading to a likely broken installation
[08:57] <lordievader> ubuntun00b: You can, but the install can be unpredicatable.
[08:58] <jtaylor> I'd just do a backup and restore after installtion
[08:58] <lordievader> That is another way to go.
[08:59] <ubuntun00b> i don't have enough disk space to create 2 partitions. i'd have to backup to an external disk but it's ntfs. I'd lose all my file permissions. I'd like to avoid that if possible
[08:59] <jtaylor> ubuntun00b: backup in a tarball
[08:59] <jtaylor> also get another disk for backups then, you should not use computers without regular backups
[09:00] <jtaylor> especially when messing with dev releases :)
[09:01] <ubuntun00b> ok. I'll take a file backup and then a tar backup just to be safe. but back to my original question. once my backup is done. There's no way to install ubuntu without deleting the partition?
[09:02] <lordievader> ubuntun00b: Like we said, you can, but it ain't recommended.
[09:02] <jtaylor> deleting everything but home from a live-cd then installing might work (if it allows you to skip the formating step)
[09:03] <jtaylor> you can try, if you ahve backups worst that happens is you ahve to install twice when it doesn't work
[09:04] <ubuntun00b> do i have to choose a mount point or set no mount point or rename my /home folder? does nobody know for sure?
[09:12] <lordievader> I don't fully understand the question...
[10:53] <alex__> hello, I have an error while building unity. Is this the right place to ask? If not I'll not make a pastebin or similar report
[10:56] <ikonia> building ?
[11:06] <lordievader> Don't think many people in here actually build unity themselves.
[11:06] <elhoir> hello, does anyone know if Ubuntu 16.04 will bring LLVM 3.7 enabled? (i would want to have OpenGL 4.x support :P )
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[20:10] <hggdh> meanwhile, software-updated insists in installing some packages that apt insists in stating are not in use and can be auto-removable...
[20:12] <BluesKaj> the software update gui is slow to see what apt sees
[20:12] <BluesKaj> in dkg
[20:13] <BluesKaj> dpkg rather
[20:18] <hggdh> yeah. So I apt-get autoremove, and the packages are gone. Later on I apt-get update and... lo and behold, s-u now wants to install the packages again. Rinse & repeat, ad nauseum
[20:18] <hggdh> fun
[20:19] <BluesKaj> is it a ppa
[20:20] <BluesKaj> also run autoclean
[21:00] <hggdh> BluesKaj: yes, seems autoremove did the trick. Sort of surprising.
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-irc
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[09:43] <DisasteR> Hi,
[09:43] <DisasteR> i have lost my nick due to some absence on irc
[09:43] <DisasteR> just re-registered it
[09:43] <DisasteR> can i recover my ubuntu member cloak ?
[09:44] <Fuchs> DisasteR: probably, you have to wait for someone from IRCC, please already link your lolpad profile
[09:45] <DisasteR> https://launchpad.net/~benj.saiz
[09:45] <Fuchs> perfect. Now just wait for IRCC, and then for them waiting for staff
[09:48] <DisasteR> ok thanks :)
[14:35] <hggdh> staff: can we please have a cloak ubuntu/member/disaster for DisasteR
[14:36] <niko> DisasteR: cloaked
[14:36] <hggdh> niko: thank you
[14:38] <Fuchs> clök
[16:58] <DisasteR> thanks niko :)
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.921545
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2015-11-09-#maas
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[08:57] <nitin_> i have set up a MAAS server with 2 nodes in ready state
[08:57] <nitin_> I want to add a generated image of CentOS to MAAS
[08:58] <nitin_> what should be the format of image to be uploaded in MAAS?
[11:41] <binoy> how to get the pci details of a node using maas
[11:41] <binoy> api
[11:53] <roaksoax_> binoy: this might help: https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/api.html#commissioning-results
[11:54] <binoy> thank you roaksoax
[11:54] <binoy> let me try this
[12:30] <hns> Hello. I'm trying to setup a small test environment, wich consist of a VM as region/cluster and one as node. The region/cluster has 2 network interfaces, one for internet access and the other one is a virtual network for nodes. The node is trying to boot via pxe but this fails. I've tcp dumped around I see the client requests, but it somehow fails anyway. See http://pastebin.com/idQcj48q any hint?
[13:23] <nitin_> #raspbian
[14:15] <mup> Bug #1514436 opened: Support redirects for maas.ubuntu.com/images <MAAS:New for andreserl> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514436>
[15:39] <mup> Bug #1514486 opened: Cannot claim sticky IP address for a device with parent unless observed IPs exist for the parent <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514486>
[15:42] <mup> Bug #1514486 changed: Cannot claim sticky IP address for a device with parent unless observed IPs exist for the parent <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514486>
[15:48] <mup> Bug #1514486 opened: Cannot claim sticky IP address for a device with parent unless observed IPs exist for the parent <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514486>
[15:51] <mup> Bug #1514486 changed: Cannot claim sticky IP address for a device with parent unless observed IPs exist for the parent <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514486>
[15:54] <mup> Bug #1514486 opened: Cannot claim sticky IP address for a device with parent unless observed IPs exist for the parent <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1514486>
[17:42] <mup> Bug #1513775 changed: MAAS didn't parse dnssec-validation automatically <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1513775>
[19:39] <hns> hello, my nodes are booting via pxe but aren't listed, any hints?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:29.925660
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-fi
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[06:54] <tjp> qlist
[06:54] <tjp> tai jotain
[10:04] <Hejkki> Miten tämä on mahdollista, laitan ls *pdf niin se antaa index.php
[10:04] <ighea> riippuu varmaan shellistä
[10:05] <Hejkki> ah joo nyt hoksasin, ehin jo kysyy turhaa
[10:05] <Hejkki> sielä oli pdf/
[10:05] <Hejkki> jonka sisällä index.php :)
[10:54] <anacron> laita *.pdf :)
[10:59] <Maakuth> https://gist.github.com/maakuth/ec54196bf54e393effd5 tällaisen murjaisin eilen muuten, pdfiin liittyen. vaikuttaa hölmöltä, mutta toimii
[14:50] <mlpug> Voinko laittaa croniin apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade. Mikä etu olisi asentaa unattended-upgrades paketti kuten sekä debian, että ubuntu dokumenteissa tunnutaan suosittelevan.
[14:51] <mlpug> jälkimmäinen tuntuu vaan melko järeältä jos kyse on vaan kuitenkin, että asennan aina mitä valitsemistani luotetuista repoista tyrkytetään
[15:00] <mlpug> Pitää häipyä tästä. katson myöhemmin lokeista. Eli kommentoi vaan, jos sulla on sanottavaa tuohon oma cronscript versus unattended-upgrade paketti asiaani. moi
[15:00] <ansa> ei se kovin järeä ole, muutama skripti mutta viimeistelty ja otettu asioita huomioon - blokkaa shutdownin jnpp.
[15:00] <ansa> jos upgradet kesken
[18:36] <mlpug> ansa, no ehkä mä sitten laitan unattended-upgrades packagen
[18:36] <mlpug> päädyin miettimään vielä simppelimpää omaa cron juttua, koska ekaksi tuli palstoilta vastaan jotain valitusta tuosta unattended-upgradesta
[18:37] <mlpug> mutta ei kai se rakettitiedettä tosiaan ole
[18:37] <mlpug> case closed
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-co-meeting
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[01:21] <ofprieto> hola BrayanBautista
[01:21] <BrayanBautista> Hola prieto
[01:21] <ofprieto> hol Fori jcqr123
[01:21] <jcqr123> buenas noches
[01:21] <Fori> ofprieto: entre al trin
[01:21] <BrayanBautista> Buenas noches
[01:22] <ofprieto> buenas noches yo los escucho pero no hay microfono hoy :D
[01:22] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: Fori ofprieto jcqr123 buenas
[01:22] <jcqr123> entonces señores
[01:22] <jcqr123> que temas tenemos pendientes
[01:24] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: ofprieto ?
[01:25] <BrayanBautista> Tenemos wiki de la reunion de hoy ?
[01:26] <ofprieto> Fori: jcqr123 los escuchooo
[01:26] <Fori> si claaro
[01:27] <BrayanBautista> la comparte por favor.
[01:27] <Fori> Sacasmo
[01:28] <BrayanBautista> lol
[01:28] <sergiomeneses> creo que no hay
[01:28] <sergiomeneses> pero si podemos empezar a discutir los temas que propongamos no?
[01:29] <jcqr123> me preocupa el tema de que cada dia somos menos miembros oficiales
[01:29] <jcqr123> de la lista se ha salido mucha gente
[01:30] <jcqr123> me parece que el proceso de ingresar como miebros oficiales es muy complicado
[01:30] <sergiomeneses> si eso es verdad jcqr123
[01:30] <sergiomeneses> pero es un punto de inflexion que toca comunidad pasa
[01:30] <jcqr123> por ejemplo el team de venezuela solo pide la firma del COC para ser mienbro
[01:31] <sergiomeneses> jcqr123: nosotros tambien , las otras normas son de formalidad... como que se presente en la lista de correos
[01:31] <BrayanBautista> Me puedo tomar la palabra ?
[01:31] <ofprieto> jcqr123: eso se a hablado en concilios pasados
[01:31] <jcqr123> y?
[01:31] <ofprieto> y duran muchas reuniones para saber que no creo que se pueda modificar
[01:31] <BrayanBautista> me puedo tomar la palabra ? repito.
[01:32] <jcqr123> hable brayan
[01:32] <sergiomeneses> bueno yo pienso que se debe evaluar el proceso pero no es complicado
[01:32] <sergiomeneses> claro BrayanBautista
[01:32] <ofprieto> dije no creo jcqr123
[01:32] <BrayanBautista> escribiendo**
[01:32] <jcqr123> tiene la palabra brayan
[01:34] <BrayanBautista> Este año como "Comunidad" no hemos realizado nada a comparación de otros años, no nos sirve de nada tener mas de 40 miembros oficiales si no se hace nada, de que nos sirve modificar la forma de ingresar como miembro oficial si las cosas van a ser asi, ser miembro de UCO tiene un valor y la gente la desconoce, debemos "volver" a hacer cosas como comunidad "meetup, hacklabs" y no solo apoyarnos en tres evento
[01:34] <BrayanBautista> s ej: flisol, SFD para darnos a conocer, porque realmente no estamos haciendo nada, por eso la gente se aburre y se va porque la comunidad se esta muriendo
[01:34] <BrayanBautista> *Comunidad que no aporta realmente al proyecto no es comunidad*
[01:34] <BrayanBautista> listo ya termine.
[01:35] <Fori> Antes se hacian hacklabs y cosas chimbitas hoy ya no se hace es nada
[01:35] <ofprieto> BrayanBautista: otra vez volvemos al mismo circulo de que no se hace
[01:35] <Fori> :-(
[01:35] <BrayanBautista> no es volver al circulo prieto
[01:35] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: tiene mucha razon
[01:35] <sergiomeneses> eso es importantisimo
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> debemos tocar los problemas y lo que esta pasando para buscar la solucion
[01:36] <sergiomeneses> pero debemos generar estrategias para solucionar eso entonces
[01:36] <ofprieto> si no se hace es por que primero no se organiza y si se organiza la asistencia es pesima
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> +11111
[01:36] <sergiomeneses> eso eso
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> ofprieto
[01:36] <ofprieto> +1 sergiomeneses
[01:36] * jcqr123 opina que hay mucho vendedor de humo
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> pregunta para usted
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> respecto a eso
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> organizar que ???
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> meetup ?
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> hacklabs ?
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> o se refiere a eventos de SL ?
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> tipo sfd o flisol ?
[01:36] <jcqr123> hay que replantear muchas cosas
[01:36] <BrayanBautista> porque si es a eso si estoy de acuerdo con ud
[01:37] <jcqr123> los eventos como sfd o flisol para mi estan condenados a desaparecer tristemente
[01:37] <BrayanBautista> pero si yo hago un hacklabs y me van 6 asistentes
[01:37] <BrayanBautista> se esta cumpliendo con la labor
[01:37] <jcqr123> debemos empezar a hacer cosas mas pequeñas
[01:37] <BrayanBautista> jcqr123, +111
[01:37] <sergiomeneses> bueno calmados
[01:37] <BrayanBautista> lastimosamente va a hacer asi :C
[01:37] <sergiomeneses> estamos aqui para buscar soluciones y charlar entre amigos
[01:38] <ofprieto> jcqr123: la vez pasada invite a varios al tema de lfcs
[01:38] <sergiomeneses> que no se pierda la cordura
[01:38] <ofprieto> en hackbo y pocos fueron
[01:38] <BrayanBautista> es que yo le caigo mal a ofprieto
[01:38] <sergiomeneses> bueno pero ofprieto fueron algunos
[01:38] <sergiomeneses> eso es lo importante
[01:38] <ofprieto> BrayanBautista: no es eso es que ud ha quedado mal en varios compromisos que bien o mal an sido por temas laborales no avisa con tiempo y se siente uno mal de que le incumplan
[01:39] <BrayanBautista> ya sabemos cual es el problema que estamos presentando, chicos que estrategias podemos plasmar para trabajarlas ?
[01:39] <sergiomeneses> uco no tiene impacto hoy en dia, eso es lo que hay que retomar
[01:39] <jcqr123> +1 con prieto
[01:39] <BrayanBautista> ofprieto, es verdad
[01:39] <BrayanBautista> +1 sergiomeneses
[01:39] <ofprieto> BrayanBautista: no es que me caiga mal , me cae es re-mal
[01:39] <jcqr123> si no se puede hacer algo lo mejor es decir no puedo
[01:39] <jcqr123> y no quedar mal
[01:39] <BrayanBautista> ofprieto, *sacando el cuchillo*
[01:40] <BrayanBautista> exacto jcqr123 , no nos desviemos del tema
[01:40] <ofprieto> hagamos algo de lo de los cumpleaños
[01:40] <jcqr123> que propone prieto ??
[01:40] <ofprieto> jcqr123: un viaje a piscina (de agua) no establecimientos extraños
[01:41] <Fori> Es que no se estan usando las redes sociales para nustras actividades y la gente le cojio fastidio a eso
[01:41] <BrayanBautista> Fori, +1111
[01:41] <Fori> Puro spam antes
[01:41] <BrayanBautista> exacto
[01:41] <ofprieto> Fori: tiene razon pero no lloremos sobre la leche derramada solucionemos y ya.
[01:41] <BrayanBautista> uff ahi esta el core de todo el problema
[01:41] <BrayanBautista> que estrategias proponen ?
[01:41] <BrayanBautista> yo me tomo la palabra despues
[01:42] <Fori> Toca es que nuestras redes sociales esten en funcion de nuestras actividades
[01:42] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: ofprieto jcqr123 Fori y si hacemos un aniversario bien jalado?
[01:42] <sergiomeneses> algo asi como para "reinagurar" la comunidad?
[01:42] <BrayanBautista> ya que sergiomeneses toco ese tema
[01:42] <sergiomeneses> algo que invitemos arta gente
[01:42] <BrayanBautista> quiero tomarme la palabra
[01:42] <jcqr123> meneses el tema es que si hacemos algo le aseguro que los unicos asistentese seriamos nosotros
[01:43] <ofprieto> como jcqr123 que no le escuche
[01:44] <ofprieto> no tengo microfono Fori
[01:44] <jcqr123> la comunidad en realidad en mi concepto somos los mismos 4 patos de siempre
[01:44] <sergiomeneses> es cierto
[01:44] <BrayanBautista> Muy buena idea de los cumpleaños y "re inaguración" pero toca hacerlo muy bien como se hacia antes, creabamos evento en fb y g+, avisabamos en otras comunidades, regabamos la voz haciamos networking sobre el evento, tratabamos de que el evento fuera como TT en nuestros medios, creando imagen audiovisual para que la gente sepa del evento y participe
[01:44] <sergiomeneses> seriamos pocos
[01:44] <BrayanBautista> jcqr123, si ud piensa que vamos a ir pocos, asi sera, pero esa no es la gracia no sea negativo, propongamos estrategias
[01:45] <sergiomeneses> bueno y de ser asi no importa ofprieto freco :)
[01:45] <sergiomeneses> podemos ir a un espacio y hacer algo
[01:45] <sergiomeneses> y ir generando de nuevo comunidad
[01:45] <BrayanBautista> exacto
[01:45] <BrayanBautista> vive digital tiene espacios
[01:45] <sergiomeneses> dejamos de ser "virtuales" para ir mas a la practica
[01:45] <BrayanBautista> apoyemonos de herramientas
[01:45] <BrayanBautista> como el meetup
[01:45] <BrayanBautista> los eventos en redes sociales
[01:45] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: ++
[01:45] <BrayanBautista> regar la voz
[01:46] <BrayanBautista> invitar comunidad
[01:46] <jcqr123> esa idea del meetup me suena
[01:46] <sergiomeneses> de hecho hay un proyecto para que los locoteams puedan usar meetup gratis
[01:46] <sergiomeneses> xD
[01:46] <jcqr123> uco tiene grupo en eso
[01:46] <jcqr123> ??
[01:46] <sergiomeneses> no
[01:46] <sergiomeneses> porque es pago chino
[01:46] <ofprieto> meetup es pago?
[01:46] <ofprieto> juemasdres no sabia
[01:46] <BrayanBautista> y ofprieto porque muy poca participación en lo de la certificación? sencillo solo se toco el tema en lista y se quedo en lista y nada mas
[01:46] <jcqr123> vea pues no sabia que eso era pago
[01:46] <sergiomeneses> ofprieto: jcqr123 tiene como 15 usuarios gratis
[01:47] <sergiomeneses> luego tiene que pagar
[01:47] <ofprieto> ha ok sergiomeneses
[01:47] <BrayanBautista> alguien sabe la relacion de costos ?
[01:47] <sergiomeneses> bueno pero centremonos en la comunidad
[01:47] <BrayanBautista> okey
[01:47] <BrayanBautista> sigamos
[01:47] <BrayanBautista> no hemos avanzado en nada
[01:48] <jcqr123> hay que gesioanar el espacio
[01:48] <sergiomeneses> pero si hacemos el aniversario toca cuadrarlo de una
[01:48] <sergiomeneses> porque hoy es 8 de Nov
[01:48] <jcqr123> si se va a hacer algo
[01:48] <BrayanBautista> seria ya para diciembre
[01:48] <BrayanBautista> tenemos un mes
[01:48] <BrayanBautista> para cuadrar
[01:48] <sergiomeneses> diciembre que dia?
[01:49] <BrayanBautista> 3 o 4 charlas no mas "algo relevante, no siempre de lo mismo "
[01:49] <BrayanBautista> emmm
[01:49] <BrayanBautista> eso tendriamos que cuadrarlo sergiomeneses
[01:49] <BrayanBautista> diciembre 12
[01:49] <BrayanBautista> que opinan ?
[01:49] <jcqr123> si mediados de dic
[01:49] <ofprieto> me suena jcqr123
[01:50] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: jcqr123 ofprieto a mi me parece que deberia ser mas un espacio para hablar cosas de la comunidad que charlas
[01:50] <sergiomeneses> algo mas de nosotros
[01:50] <jcqr123> si
[01:50] <sergiomeneses> como mirar la situacion del team
[01:50] <BrayanBautista> sergiomeneses, exacto
[01:50] <jcqr123> reunirnos par polas comida
[01:50] <sergiomeneses> y mirar que cosas se deben mejorar
[01:50] <sergiomeneses> foto grupal
[01:50] <jcqr123> y como dijo mickey maus
[01:50] <sergiomeneses> y cosas asi
[01:50] <ofprieto> me gusta eso de la comida
[01:50] <sergiomeneses> mas de integracion de la comunidad
[01:51] <ofprieto> trabajar en temas de web
[01:51] <BrayanBautista> se acuerdan de hace dos años en la alcaldia de restrepo ?
[01:51] <BrayanBautista> de antonio nariño ?
[01:51] <BrayanBautista> algo asi deberiamos hacer
[01:51] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: podria ser
[01:52] <jcqr123> yo digo que nos reunamos en un sitio llevamos un pendon par polas algo de comer hablamos ñoña un rato
[01:52] <jcqr123> y ya
[01:52] <BrayanBautista> jcqr123, asi fue en la antonio nariño
[01:52] <BrayanBautista> una charla de andrés una charla de dguerrero
[01:52] <BrayanBautista> otra charla
[01:52] <Fori> ahhhhh donde yo salir de miss
[01:52] <BrayanBautista> una socialización entre todos
[01:52] <Fori> jajajajajajajajaja
[01:52] <BrayanBautista> y nos fuimos a echar pizza
[01:52] <BrayanBautista> JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ
[01:52] <jcqr123> pero que queden fotos y cosas asi para que se vea que la comunidad es algo fisico y no solo virtual
[01:52] <BrayanBautista> Yo no pude hacer nada, era menor de edad
[01:52] <jcqr123> jajajajajajajajajajajajaja
[01:52] <jcqr123> la señorita ubuntu
[01:52] <jcqr123> jhajajajaja
[01:53] <BrayanBautista> jcqr123, exacto!!
[01:53] <jcqr123> hagamos eso entonces
[01:53] <jcqr123> definamos fecha
[01:53] <jcqr123> y sitio
[01:53] <BrayanBautista> Que opinan
[01:53] <BrayanBautista> diciembre 12 ?
[01:54] <sergiomeneses> si el 12 de Dic parece factible
[01:54] <sergiomeneses> esta bien
[01:54] <jcqr123> si esta bien
[01:55] <Fori> brayan la torta la paga ud
[01:55] <jcqr123> brayan se encarga de gestionar el evento entonces ???
[01:55] <Fori> la dexuenta de la deuda
[01:55] <sergiomeneses> bueno me parece que empecemos un hilo por la lista del concilio para ir discutiendo los detalles del evento para agilizar esto
[01:55] <jcqr123> obviamente nosotros le colaboramos en lo que necesite
[01:55] <ofprieto> ok
[01:55] <sergiomeneses> no no lo genere todavia
[01:55] <sergiomeneses> hay que confirmar el sitio
[01:55] <sergiomeneses> lo que se va a hacer
[01:55] <sergiomeneses> y otros detalles
[01:55] <sergiomeneses> xD
[01:55] <BrayanBautista> yo me encargo de gestionar el evento si es necesario
[01:56] <ofprieto> pero entonces eso se debe cuadra ahorita no?
[01:56] <Fori> Lo mas pronto posible
[01:56] <BrayanBautista> si, debemos hacer un plan de trabajo para eso
[01:56] <sergiomeneses> esta semana debe estar listo
[01:56] <BrayanBautista> la gracia es que sea el "evento" BOOM
[01:56] <BrayanBautista> de UCO de este año
[01:57] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: +1
[01:57] <sergiomeneses> invitamos a hollman, a mujica, a czam a todo el mundo
[01:58] <BrayanBautista> +1111 sergiomeneses
[01:58] <sergiomeneses> ;)
[01:59] <BrayanBautista> Cual es la finalizad del evento
[01:59] <sergiomeneses> listo entonces BrayanBautista cree el hilo en la lista del concilio y vamos definiendo los detalles por alla
[01:59] <BrayanBautista> listo perfecto
[01:59] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: es un aniversario
[01:59] <sergiomeneses> celebracion
[01:59] <sergiomeneses> y podemos hacer como un "roadmap" de lo que vamos a hacer el año entrante
[01:59] <BrayanBautista> aniversario celebración sergiomeneses ?
[01:59] <BrayanBautista> si si
[01:59] <jcqr123> si eso
[01:59] <BrayanBautista> eso es supremamente importante
[02:01] <sergiomeneses> sip
[02:01] <jcqr123> conclusiones y responsables entonces
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> conclusiones: aniversario UCO diciembre 12
[02:02] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: si
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> responsable(s) : por el momento solo yo
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> mientras se cuadra todo
[02:02] <sergiomeneses> los detalles los hablamos por la lista
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> por la lista del concilio
[02:02] <sergiomeneses> hagale ;)
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> despues de que tengamos todo cuadrado
[02:02] <jcqr123> listo
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> empezamos con la difusion
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> creación de evento
[02:02] <jcqr123> cree el hilo entonces
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> agendado
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> listo
[02:02] <jcqr123> pero solo en la lista del concilio
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> prosigamos
[02:02] <BrayanBautista> si obvio jcqr123
[02:02] <jcqr123> no a lo prieto en la publica
[02:02] <jcqr123> lol
[02:03] <BrayanBautista> como raro en ofprieto
[02:03] <jcqr123> ya despues cuandoe este todo listo hay si lo lanzamos por la publica
[02:03] <BrayanBautista> si obvio jcqr123
[02:03] <sergiomeneses> hahahahahaha
[02:03] <sergiomeneses> le hacen bullying a ofprieto
[02:04] <BrayanBautista> Bueno,
[02:04] <BrayanBautista> sergiomeneses, como va con la pagina web
[02:04] <BrayanBautista> le trabajo en brasil ?
[02:05] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: pues es de todos no? yo solo soy el lider
[02:05] <BrayanBautista> si obvio
[02:05] <sergiomeneses> yo en brasil actualice todo el proyecto en LP
[02:05] <BrayanBautista> es que yo no le he metido mano
[02:05] <BrayanBautista> :p
[02:06] <sergiomeneses> y tambien le camelle
[02:06] <sergiomeneses> andamos ahora es esperando a Jorge por el backup del antiguo sitio
[02:08] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: ofprieto jcqr123 Fori lo del contenido pues no es tan dificil sino terminar el diseño del sitio
[02:08] <sergiomeneses> porque aun sino alcanzamos a tener la informacion podemos crear una publicacion mientras tanto
[02:08] <sergiomeneses> como la noticia del aniversario
[02:08] <sergiomeneses> y luego se monta el historico
[02:09] <ofprieto> ok sergiomeneses
[02:09] <ofprieto> osea en el mismo sitio
[02:09] <jcqr123> si podria ser asi
[02:09] <jcqr123> por ahora algo del aniversario
[02:09] <jcqr123> y despues si el historico
[02:10] <sergiomeneses> listo podria funcionar
[02:10] <sergiomeneses> ;)
[02:11] <sergiomeneses> ofprieto: BrayanBautista estan de acuerdo con lo que propone jcqr123 ?
[02:11] <BrayanBautista> exacto muy bien sergiomeneses de acuerdo con jcqr123
[02:11] <BrayanBautista> +111
[02:15] <sergiomeneses> bueno yo agilizo eso esta semana y cuando tengamos los detalles los pasamos y creamos el post
[02:15] <Fori> Eso
[02:15] <Fori> oigan
[02:15] <Fori> algun doliente pa esta tarea
[02:16] <Fori> quien acumula fotos de momentos epicos de uco?
[02:16] <sergiomeneses> cual tarea?
[02:16] <Fori> aniversacios fiestas y eso
[02:16] <Fori> eventos grandes
[02:16] <sergiomeneses> Fori: estan en el google del team
[02:16] <sergiomeneses> que va a hacer?
[02:16] <Fori> como contar que se ha hecho en los 10 años
[02:16] <sergiomeneses> ah eso se puede hacer
[02:16] <sergiomeneses> pero es parte del hilo que va a crear BrayanBautista
[02:17] <Fori> a mi para ese dia me gustaria 2 charlas
[02:17] <Fori> una de elkin o fabian
[02:17] <Fori> y la otra de ricardo naranjo
[02:17] <Fori> y ya
[02:17] <Fori> no mas
[02:17] <sergiomeneses> Fori: proponga eso en el hilo
[02:17] <Fori> okay capitan
[02:18] <jcqr123> ok
[02:18] <sergiomeneses> bueno señores voy saliendo
[02:18] <sergiomeneses> BrayanBautista: jcqr123 ofprieto Fori algo mas que agregar?
[02:19] <jcqr123> no
[02:19] <jcqr123> por mi parte no
[02:19] <sergiomeneses> cualqueir cosa manden correo a la lista señores
[02:19] <sergiomeneses> ese es el mejor medio de comunicacion para asuntos del team
[02:19] <ofprieto> ok
[02:19] <BrayanBautista> exacto
[02:19] <sergiomeneses> les envie un email de system76 y nadie dijo nada
[02:19] <jcqr123> pero solo a la de el concilio
[02:19] <sergiomeneses> eso fue una de las cosas que hice en brasil jajajajaja
[02:19] <sergiomeneses> jcqr123: porque es algo solo del concilio
[02:20] <sergiomeneses> por eso lo envie alla
[02:20] <jcqr123> a donde lo envio meneses
[02:20] <jcqr123> no vi nada
[02:21] <jcqr123> quedamos asi entocnes
[02:21] <jcqr123> suerte es que les digo
[02:21] <sergiomeneses> listo
[02:21] <jcqr123> estamos hablanndo
[02:21] <sergiomeneses> hagale
[02:21] <sergiomeneses> nos vemos gente
[02:21] <sergiomeneses> buena noche
[02:22] <sergiomeneses> y que descansen
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-l10n-es
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[17:03] <MrTulias> buenas
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-unity
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[08:49] <tsdgeos> Mirv: not sure if we told you or you did realize but the support for the audio roles landed in unity8
[08:49] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I did realize it, and I've rebuilt it in 5.5.1 PPA and I would test it if xenial images were not broken (not sure if they would now be fixed already)
[08:50] <Mirv> tsdgeos: anyway, it's excellent! a big landing you had.
[08:50] <tsdgeos> yep :D
[08:50] <tsdgeos> we roll like that
[08:50] <Mirv> s/I did realize it/I did publish it/ ;)
[09:34] <tsdgeos> dednick: did you see daniel's comment in https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/qtubuntu/1493530-mimeData/+merge/272630 ?
[09:34] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: what's the fate of https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/ubuntu-clock-app/detect-qtmm-version/+merge/275177 ?
[09:35] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, I don't know... I'll ping popey to get one of them merged
[09:35] <mzanetti> popey, ^ :)
[09:36] * popey looks
[09:37] <dednick> tsdgeos: no i havent
[09:37] <dednick> Q_ASSERT? not so sure. it seems to call it with null every startup.
[09:37] <popey> uh
[09:40] <dednick> tsdgeos: or maybe not. i do keep getting a log message about null clipboard data
[09:40] <dednick> cant remember where from though...
[09:40] <dednick> probably server side
[09:41] <tsdgeos> dednick: not saying he's right or nt, just saying "let's move it forward, he needs an answer" :D
[09:43] <mzanetti> dednick, hey, any progress on the freezes Saviq reported?
[09:43] <mzanetti> I had them quite often during the weekend
[09:45] <dednick> mzanetti: no. i managed to get it to freeze a few times, but didnt have debug symbols. After i installed, i spent about an hour trying to reproduce it with no luck. I'll try again today.
[09:46] <dednick> mzanetti: when i did get it to freeze, it seemed to be stuck in a loop. was getting loads of log messages from the card creator re "binding loop for height"
[09:47] <dednick> but there's also another freeze which is happening (in trunk as well i think) where it will freeze for 5-10 seconds and come right again.
[09:47] <dednick> mzanetti: does yours come right or keep locked?
[09:48] <mzanetti> dednick, afaict it keeps locked until I open the right edge
[09:49] <mzanetti> however, if it freezes for multiple seconds, there's the chance that I've just not been patient enough
[09:49] <dednick> mzanetti: next time it happens can you try wait for a bit?
[09:50] <mzanetti> ack
[09:50] <mzanetti> dednick, happens like 5 times a day or so... at least over the weekend
[09:50] <popey> mzanetti, I don't quite understand which of the two merges should land. there's another linked from that one, and loads of abstentions!
[09:50] <mzanetti> popey, you decide :)
[09:51] <Guest78101> mzanetti, same here on arale, constant freezing
[09:51] <Guest78101> rc-proposed
[09:51] <mzanetti> yep, rc-proposed
[09:52] <QUESTION> omg LOL
[09:53] <QUESTION> can i ask something??
[09:56] <popey> !ask
[09:56] <QUESTION> :))
[10:02] <davmor2> Guest78101: did you ask the question yet?
[10:14] <dednick> tsdgeos: i've commented and pushed a change. I don't think we should be clearing the clipboard.
[10:14] <tsdgeos> oki :)
[10:14] <tsdgeos> i don't know enough about it tbh
[10:29] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, ok, all branches merged
[10:29] <tsdgeos> :)
[10:30] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i think you missed https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/ubuntuanimations/+merge/276511 ?
[10:30] <mzanetti> indeed
[12:10] <dandrader> mzanetti, made so that https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/noStretchOnResize/+merge/274752 now does not depend on that qtmir branch anymore
[12:10] <dandrader> mzanetti, so it can get merged independently
[12:10] <mzanetti> dandrader, nic
[12:10] <mzanetti> nice
[12:11] <dandrader> mzanetti, it will take forever for the qtmir branch to get landed because of other outstanding branches that also change the same code.
[12:11] <mzanetti> mhm
[12:12] <dandrader> mzanetti, and I fear leaving that untiy8 branch hanging aroung as that part of the code (desktop window management) is under heavy development, so it can bit rot quite fast
[12:12] <mzanetti> fair enough, yes
[13:22] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, hey, https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/dash_reset_instead_of_fatal/+merge/274363 links to an abandoned silo
[13:22] <mzanetti> what's the status? should unity-scopes=8 be landed by us then?
[13:30] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: pstolowski what happened with that silo?
[13:31] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, the dash seems to freeze for a couple of seconds frequently since the last landing. any thoughts?
[13:32] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[13:32] <tsdgeos> not really let me check the log
[13:50] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, seems to happen quite often when it is focused
[13:50] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, only happening with the dash tho afaict
[13:51] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i can't find anything obvious
[13:51] <tsdgeos> even though with the move to 1.3 there's lots of ubuntu shape changes
[13:51] <pstolowski> mzanetti, tsdgeos i had to free that silo for now cause we were short on silos. will recreate it once aggregators are ready and i can land the feature
[13:52] <pstolowski> mzanetti, tsdgeos feel free to land your branch with another silo
[13:53] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: can't since you made me increase the dependencies :D
[13:53] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ah, indeed
[13:54] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: so can i have the names of the branches that it depends on so i can list them in our MR?
[13:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: do you do anything in special? or?
[13:56] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, this is reproducible quite easily. just focus some other app, after a few secs go back to the dash and continuosly flick it up and down. after some few seconds it will freeze for like 10 secs or so
[13:56] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, nothing in the logs :/
[13:56] <tsdgeos> 10 seconds?
[13:56] <mzanetti> something like that. not always the same amount
[13:56] <tsdgeos> i thought you meant something like 0.2 seconds :D
[13:56] <mzanetti> someties like 3 secs, but also have seen 20 too
[13:57] <tsdgeos> ok, let me try to reproduce it here and i'll try to figure out what's wrong
[13:57] <mzanetti> cool, thanks
[13:58] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity-scopes-shell/diff-updates/+merge/273554
[13:58] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, and https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity-api/scope-activate-action/+merge/273557
[13:59] <tsdgeos> ok, tx, mzanetti i've updated the branches
[14:41] <Guest42341> tsdgeos, same thing as mzanetti here with arale on rc-proposed, the dash freezes for 2-10 sec
[14:41] <tsdgeos> greyback_: what can cause this? ↓
[14:41] <tsdgeos> qtmir.surfaces: MirSurfaceItem::dropPendingBuffer() surface = qtmir::MirSurface(0x2e1ce10) buffer dropped. 0 left.
[14:41] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ↑ i get that as unity8 log when i see the freeze, can you confirm?
[14:41] <greyback_> tsdgeos: if a surface is set visible=false, and app keeps drawing. We drop those new frames from the app to avoid blocking it
[14:42] <mzanetti> interesting
[14:42] <tsdgeos> greyback_: how can i know who 0x2e1ce10 belongs to?
[14:42] <mzanetti> I think I saw this message even though the surface was visible
[14:42] <tsdgeos> greyback_: is it possible there's a bug in there? i'm seeing it in conjunction with unity8-dash rendering "freezing" when on the front
[14:42] <greyback_> tsdgeos: should be printed earlier in the log
[14:43] <greyback_> tsdgeos: possible, sure.
[14:43] <mzanetti> dednick, so looks like being occlusion related after all ^
[14:43] <greyback_> dednick: you were trying to repro that last week ^^
[14:43] <tsdgeos> greyback_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13208991/ :/
[14:43] <greyback_> mzanetti: occlusion is the act of setting surfaces visible=true/false
[14:43] <mzanetti> yes. I know
[14:43] <tsdgeos> greyback_: maybe i need to enable more logging?
[14:44] <greyback_> tsdgeos: from high level, would indicate to me the MirSurfaceItem has visible=false, but app is still drawing somehow.
[14:44] <greyback_> tsdgeos: there is no more to enable, we should improve that
[14:45] <mzanetti> greyback_, yep. but the surface *is* visible. so seems like the occlusion branches tell MirSurface it would be not even though it is
[14:45] <greyback_> mzanetti: a likely theory
[14:46] <greyback_> I'm assuming this just happens randomly?
[14:46] <mzanetti> greyback_, quite reproducible
[14:46] <tsdgeos> it's randomly quite reproducible :D
[14:47] <greyback_> dednick wasn't able to on Friday, playing around for a good hour
[14:47] <tsdgeos> i mean you can't make it happen 100% but you can make it happen quite often
[14:47] <mzanetti> greyback_, open some random app, keep it focused for a few secs, then switch to dash and swipe it up/down frequently. the dash will freeze
[14:47] <mzanetti> definitely a good 90% hit rate here
[14:47] <tsdgeos> i've a much lower hit rate
[14:47] <tsdgeos> maybe 30%
[14:48] <tsdgeos> but still "reproducible enough"
[14:48] <mzanetti> krillin here
[14:48] <tsdgeos> MX4 for me
[14:48] <tsdgeos> maybe the speedness of the hw "helps"
[14:48] <greyback_> mzanetti: please add that to the bug, would help
[14:48] <greyback_> also what device? I suspect a race condition
[14:48] <greyback_> yeah, my thinking
[14:48] <mzanetti> greyback_, is there a bug report for it?
[14:48] <greyback_> dednick ^ ?
[14:49] <dednick> reading backlog
[14:50] <dednick> i was getting those messages when the surface was visible in u8
[14:51] <greyback_> dednick: which would make me suspicious. We shouldn't need to drop frames from a visible surface
[14:51] <greyback_> only case that would happen is if client not respecting vsync and swapping faster than 60htz
[14:52] <greyback_> and dash doesn't do that
[14:53] <mzanetti> oh dear... OTA-8 final freeze is tomorrow
[15:01] <tsdgeos> greyback_: mzanetti: dednick: so i leave the investigation in your hands? you probably can find a cause/cure faster than me in that area
[15:01] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yes, thanks for confirming tho
[15:01] <dednick> i thought occlusion has landde?
[15:01] <greyback_> tsdgeos: yep
[15:01] <dednick> landed
[15:01] <mzanetti> dednick, yes, it has, which is the issue with the OTA-8 freeze
[15:01] <mzanetti> dednick, need to ship a fix by tonight I guess, or we'll have to revert
[15:02] <dednick> mzanetti: ok
[16:31] <ltinkl> cimi, if you want to review the new deco visuals, be my guest: https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/newWindowDecosAndPanel/+merge/276810
[16:41] <tsdgeos> cimi: so https://trello.com/c/dNjca4ie/229-range-input-filter-widget is all good and ready for review?
[17:32] <mterry> ltinkl, on your desktopFileActions branch, is there any concern about letting Touch apps define such extra actions and running code that way?
[17:33] <ltinkl> mterry, right, this is intended more for existing desktop apps (chrome, libreoffice, ...)
[17:33] <mterry> ltinkl, I know, but there's nothing in this branch restricting it to legacy apps
[17:33] <ltinkl> mterry, not aware of any touch app that would use this currently
[17:33] <ltinkl> mterry, it's restricted to the same binary currently (because of the security model)
[17:34] <mterry> ltinkl, oh I don't see that restricting...
[17:35] <ltinkl> mterry, but I think apps like the touch webbrowser might want to add a "New tab..." shortcut to its desktop file and handle that within the same instance/window
[17:35] <mterry> ltinkl, yeah... I'm not worried about legitimate uses. I'm thinking of malicious apps here
[17:35] <ltinkl> mterry, in the MP, lines 387-394
[17:36] <mterry> ltinkl, ah... it uses app_id there, not the result of exec()
[17:36] <ltinkl> mterry, I extract the args and pass it to the same binary
[17:36] <ltinkl> mterry, yeah, it should be safe although the args splitting might be a bit naive
[17:36] <mterry> ltinkl, my eyes glossed over that and assumed that first argument was the first exec token
[17:37] <ltinkl> mterry, anyways, the MP could use a review ;)
[17:38] <mterry> ltinkl, yeah I was about to comment on it, but wanted to talk with higher bandwidth first :)
[17:38] <ltinkl> mterry, worth noting I got rid of QSettings there... it was failing badly
[17:39] <mterry> ltinkl, so now I'm less concerned about malicious apps. But for a legitimate app, feels odd that I can just put garbage in the first token of the Exec line...
[17:39] <ltinkl> mterry, yea... our sandboxing wouldn't allow launching another app anyway I bet
[17:40] <mterry> ltinkl, well this is unity8 launching it. I could imagine app "malicious.mterry" might try to launch another app like "good.ltinkl" if it was allowed to
[17:40] <ltinkl> mterry, still I can think of good usecases: file manager, right click on a ZIP file, select "Extract to...", launches some archiver program
[17:41] <mterry> ltinkl, so sandboxing isn't enough, we definitely should restrict it to same appId
[17:41] <mterry> ltinkl, like your MP does
[17:41] <ltinkl> mterry, yea
[17:41] <ltinkl> mterry, but a I said, I could also think of valid use cases when one might want to launch another app
[17:41] <mterry> ltinkl, but it just feels weird that "good.ltinkl" if it wants to use these actions has to put in some ignored token on the exec line (presumably its own executable, so maybe it doesn't matter). But if they put in something else, they don't get any warnings, they just get a different executable than they expected running
[17:42] <ltinkl> mterry, yeah, perhaps at least a warning would be in place?
[17:42] <mterry> ltinkl, but that sort of cross-app dependency is not something our app ecosystem is ready for :) (unless they are core apps maybe?)
[17:43] <ltinkl> mterry, dunno really, such cross deps should probably be handled by the content hub
[17:43] <mterry> ltinkl, yeah. I was just reiterating that it's good we don't allow launching other appIds right now :)
[17:44] <mterry> ltinkl, ok will really review your branch now :)
[17:45] <mterry> mzanetti, regarding QSettings vs gsettings for desktop parsing, I remember you looking into that in the past. What was the story there? <- ltinkl
[17:46] <ltinkl> mterry, it just failed to parse anything else than the [Desktop Entry] group for me
[17:46] <mzanetti> mterry, so, QSettings can do it for simple things. If you need more complicated things, QSettings won't do
[17:46] <ltinkl> mterry, also omitting some regular translated entries
[17:46] <mterry> ltinkl, silly QSettings
[17:47] <ltinkl> ah right, I remember
[17:47] <mterry> mzanetti, yeah we had converted to gsettings already somewhere in unity8 right?
[17:47] <ltinkl> it fell over when it encountered
[17:47] <ltinkl> right to left text
[17:47] <mterry> er... not gsettings. But glib
[17:47] <mzanetti> mterry, well, QSettings does not implement the .desktop file spec. It implements the .ini file spec, which happens to be a subset of the .desktop one
[17:47] <ltinkl> indeed
[17:47] <mterry> mzanetti, right
[17:47] <ltinkl> Name[il]=this_is_right_to_left_text
[17:48] <ltinkl> and QSettings is gone :)
[17:48] <ltinkl> and doesn't parse anything past this point
[17:48] <mterry> ltinkl, well looks like it's still used in ./plugins/Unity/Indicators/indicatorsmanager.cpp
[17:49] <mterry> ltinkl, but that's for actual ini files I think
[17:49] <mterry> So probably ok
[17:49] <ltinkl> dunno that code
[17:49] <ltinkl> mterry, qtmir having similar code is something to worry more
[17:49] <mzanetti> mterry, ah, did the question arise when reviewing lukas' branch?
[17:49] <mterry> mzanetti, yeah
[17:50] <mterry> mzanetti, I was surprised that we still had QSettings code in there actually
[17:50] <mzanetti> mterry, it was enough for what the launcher needed so far
[17:50] <mzanetti> but not any more...
[17:50] <mterry> cool
[17:50] * mterry is caught up :)
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2015-11-09-#ubuntustudio
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[08:06] <zequence> sch
[08:06] <zequence> oops
[08:08] <Unit193> schroot? Not really all that handy, for me.
[08:16] <zequence> I was going to see if that guy schnitz was still online using autocomplete :)
[08:17] <zequence> A bit dark in here, and backspace is awfully close to return
[08:18] <Unit193> Ctrl+w, I'm lazy.
[08:24] <zequence> Ah, great
[08:24] <zequence> I'm still such an IRC greenie
[08:29] <Unit193> That's actually your terminal. Careful about getting into the habbit, in Firefox of course it closes the window.
[12:38] <ubuntu-studio> hello! At the moment I'm trying to install ubuntustudio, but it crashed twice with the same error message: "trying to overwrite '/etc/console-setup/compose.ISO-8859-11.inc', which is also in package console-setup 1.123"
[12:39] <ubuntu-studio> Has anybody any hints what may cause this problem?
[12:39] <ubuntu-studio> btw: Afterwards the installation script isn't even able to create an error-report...
[12:55] <zequence> ubuntu-studio: Hi. Which release are you trying to install?
[13:01] <ubuntu-studio> 15.10
[13:03] <zequence> ubuntu-studio: Did you do a checksum to see if the ISO you downloaded is good?
[13:05] <zequence> You know how to do it?
[13:05] <zequence> Here are the md5 checksums for 15.10 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/wily/release/MD5SUMS
[13:06] <zequence> In a terminal: md5sum <isofile>
[13:06] <zequence> The result should match what you see on the page I linked you to
[13:06] <ubuntu-studio> yes, but i downloaded on a windows 10
[13:06] <ubuntu-studio> is there a windows tool?
[13:06] <zequence> No idea :)
[13:07] <zequence> You could boot the installer, mount your HD and check, if it's the same computer
[13:07] <ubuntu-studio> got a small tool, its calculating right now...
[13:07] <zequence> What are you using to create the installer?
[13:08] <ubuntu-studio> unetbootin in the windows version
[13:09] <ubuntu-studio> and I was wrong, its the 14.04.3, but the MD5 is correct
[13:09] <zequence> I usually never have problems with it, so that should work
[13:10] <ubuntu-studio> strange. I'll try to copy it to another USB-Stick, perhaps this might help...
[13:10] <zequence> What language and keyboard layout are you using when installing?
[13:11] <ubuntu-studio> German and German layout
[13:11] <zequence> Ok. I will give that a try. Not sure at all if it is related.
[13:11] <zequence> Also, are you deselecting any packages during install?
[13:12] <ubuntu-studio> no. the only changes I did in the installer are the mounting settings
[13:13] <zequence> Ok. If you have time, and continue to have problems, it would be helpful if you did a bug report. You need a launchpad account - http://launchpad.net
[13:13] <zequence> When you are booted in the live environment, in a terminal, do: ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[13:14] <zequence> ubiquity is the installer. Firefox will open, you login to launchpad, and describe the problem. Some info is included in the bug report
[13:15] <zequence> I wasn't able to find a bug report about it yet anyway
[13:15] <ubuntu-studio> OK, this seems to work.
[13:15] <zequence> Good :)
[13:22] <ubuntu-studio> OK, Bug 1514422 is online. Thanks for help anyway :-)
[13:25] <zequence> ubuntu-studio: Thanks. I will try an installation and see if I get the same problem.
[14:31] <zequence> Installing on virtualbox using German language and keyboard setting worked fine for me
[14:32] <zequence> Maybe the problem is with unetbootin then?
[20:25] <Synthman> hi
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-tw
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[05:21] <Sean__> HIHI
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-us-pa
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[12:07] <rmg51> Morning
[15:48] <MutantTurkey> trying out dwm again
[15:48] <MutantTurkey> after being on i3 for years
[15:48] <MutantTurkey> i think i want to be able to switch to a main stack auto tiling setup
[15:49] <MutantTurkey> might make me focus more
[15:49] <KyleYankan> MutantTurkey: Doesn't i3 do that?
[15:49] <KyleYankan> Mod+Shift+Space | Mod+Space
[15:51] <MutantTurkey> ?
[15:51] <MutantTurkey> it does?
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> have i been forsaken by my not reading of the docs??
[15:52] <KyleYankan> MutantTurkey: RTFM
[15:52] <KyleYankan> :-P
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> lol
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> for chris sake
[15:52] <KyleYankan> Chris is a real jerk
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> another reason i like dwm
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> independent displays
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> and
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> tag stacks
[15:52] <MutantTurkey> you can combine stacks on the fly
[15:52] <KyleYankan> I haven't run i3 on a multiple monitor set-up yet
[15:53] <MutantTurkey> ah, i3 does do a good job of xinerama or whatever it's these days
[15:53] <MutantTurkey> never had any problems with it
[15:53] <MutantTurkey> but i dont like the functionality a whole lot
[15:53] <KyleYankan> I think I'd like to be able to move i3 "displays" around to various monitors.
[15:53] <KyleYankan> I need to hit NTR and get a second monitor/video card, but I keep being lazy
[15:54] <MutantTurkey> you can
[15:54] <MutantTurkey> forget what the code was
[15:54] <MutantTurkey> i used a few python scripts to do what i do with i3
[15:54] <KyleYankan> I'll check it out when I'm ready
[15:54] <KyleYankan> but that seems pretty ideal
[15:54] <MutantTurkey> my favorite was my renamable((on the fly) stacks
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-news
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[00:55] <tsimonq2> sorry miss pleia2, had to have a weekend of terror without Internet .__.
[01:22] <pleia2> tsimonq2: there's still time :) lots of summaries to write
[01:23] <tsimonq2> pleia2: a mountain of homework to do, sorry ;)
[01:23] <tsimonq2> pleia2: maybe next weel
[01:23] <tsimonq2> *week
[06:24] * pleia2 gets to summaries
[06:27] <pleia2> 15 to do, if anyone else wants to help out :)
[07:04] <pleia2> bullet pointed phone news, consolidated the DJI drone news, doing stats, then will finish up the 7 in the blogosphere
[07:57] <pleia2> still finishing, long day
[08:00] <pleia2> <3 jose
[08:00] <jose> pleia2: ping me next time, I was watching a movie
[08:00] <pleia2> haha, it's ok, you're allowed :)
[08:00] <pleia2> next weekend I'll be gone again, so I will need some help
[08:01] <pleia2> I will do what I can, but oof
[08:01] <jose> pleia2: I've got your back there
[08:01] <jose> are you able to release on the 23rd? I'll be gone that whole weekend
[08:02] <pleia2> yep, I'll be home
[08:02] <pleia2> I travel again on the 25th for the thanksgiving holiday on the 26th
[08:03] <pleia2> this year is going to kill me :)
[08:03] <pleia2> I'm home in december so I can finish my openstack book!
[08:03] <jose> I'll take care of that weekend too
[08:03] <jose> woot woot
[08:03] <pleia2> I'll at least pitch in with adding articles and some summaries when I can
[08:04] <jose> ok, should be all done
[08:05] <pleia2> \o.
[08:05] <pleia2> \o/
[08:05] <pleia2> coping to wiki now
[08:06] <jose> I'll go to bed for a while, gotta wake up in like 3h
[08:07] <jose> let me know if you need anything else and I'll take care later :)
[08:07] <pleia2> have a good night
[08:07] <pleia2> thanks, should be good now :)
[08:07] <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue441
[08:07] * pleia2 ships to editors
[08:26] * pleia2 sleep &
[08:29] <Unit193> up, lost the screen window.
[08:29] <Unit193> Seems fine.
[17:27] <pleia2> Unit193: thanks
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-gr
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[09:19] <Black_Horseman> meres
[17:49] <Euaki> Νέα από ubuntusecurity: USN-2788-2: unzip regression <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2788-2/>
[20:30] <Tassos_> να ρωτήσω ρε παιδιά.. το "epoptes" : http://ts.sch.gr/wiki/Linux/epoptes/%CE%95%CE%B3%CE%BA%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%AC%CF%83%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%B7
[20:31] <Tassos_> θέλει και κάποιο server για να στηθεί ή αρκεί π.χ. και μια διανομή όπως η xubuntu που πείρα εγώ
[20:31] <Tassos_> και απλώς προσπαθώ να το κάνω εγκατάσταση σύμφωνα με αυτές τις λίγες εντολές που λέει εκεί...
[20:32] <Tassos_> γιατί οι οδηγίες μου φαίνονται λίγες.. :/ και απορώ πως θα βλέπει όλα τα pc... και + το ότι δεν πάει και καλά
[20:32] <Tassos_> :P
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-community-team
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[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[09:57] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:04] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[10:06] <popey> yo
[10:19] <czajkowski> how are we all doing today?
[10:19] <czajkowski> popey: how is the little one ? all better?
[10:29] <popey> yeah, mostly
[10:29] <popey> they all have had sore throats, flu type things
[10:29] <popey> clare has chest infection
[10:29] <popey> I'm the only one well in the house
[10:29] <popey> (cats aside)
[11:15] <czajkowski> popey: you know by Friday you're going to be ill then!
[11:15] <czajkowski> you've just jinxed yourself in time for the weekend
[11:16] <popey> heh, maybe
[11:24] <czajkowski> popey: going to all your base UK on friday ?
[11:24] <popey> eh?
[11:24] <czajkowski> http://allyourbaseconf.com/2015/
[11:25] <popey> It says "database" in the name, so I instantly fall asleep :)
[11:31] <czajkowski> lol
[11:31] <czajkowski> yadda yadda phones yadda yadda juju : *yawns* :)
[12:36] <dholbach> jcastro (or anyone else): do you know the answer to this?
dholbach, quick question: do you know if it's possible to disable the duplicate checking on askubuntu? I'm trying to upload questions for some click-reviewers-tools messages, and they're all quite similar.
[12:36] <dholbach> Bereits als zurück markiert.
[14:07] <jcastro> dholbach: no, he needs to have a unique title to each question
[14:08] <jcastro> If a two questions are too similar then they're either too ambiguous and need to be made more specific, or they're the same question
[14:08] <dholbach> jcastro, ok, passing that on
[14:08] <jcastro> it might be that he just needs like a bunch of merges, etc.
[14:09] <dholbach> dpm, davidcalle: if we find out we can do more, we can always add more cards to the sprint - for now I think we should fix some of the easy things, look into the importer and have the conversations with the snappy team to get their pending changes lined up as well - I'm not 100% sure how long that's all going to take
[14:09] <jcastro> if he needs a little bit of guided help tell him to post his problem on meta.askubuntu.com and someone will recommend what to do
[14:09] <dholbach> particularly the importer
[14:09] <dholbach> thanks a lot jcastro
[14:10] <dpm> davidcalle, you were mentioning https://elementary.io/docs/human-interface-guidelines#human-interface-guidelines
[14:10] <dpm> I think it looks good in terms of the navigation on the left
[14:11] <dpm> but still I feel we need the input from the web team - I don't want to end up maintaining a custom menu on d.u.c
[14:11] <dpm> I think your proposal to have it on particular pages is good, but we should really pick those where it's necessary
[14:15] <davidcalle> dpm, agreed with web team input, I think that it would be a nice fit on manuals in general and long docs. But let's focus on good IA first, our current nav has served us well, and we can still push the way we are using it. On a related note, I'm opening a RT for the thrid level nav padding issue, should be fixed if IS run a single command (that will replace old css with new one)
[14:16] <dpm> davidcalle, ah, excellent!
[14:32] <dpm> popey, omw
[14:32] <popey> kk
[14:51] <popey> dpm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-sync/+bug/1418986
[14:52] <popey> dpm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-sync/+bug/1477210
[15:18] <jose> dpm: ping
[15:21] <jose> or dholbach, popey
[15:21] <popey> hmm?
[15:21] <popey> wasaaaaaaaap
[15:22] <jose> lol, I wanna send a call for mentors/tasks for google code in to MLs, and was wondering if you knew any teams that could use some extra hands
[15:22] <jose> just a couple days left
[15:24] <popey> Hm, not sure.
[15:28] <jose> we need to be able to provide 150-500 tasks in order to register
[15:30] <mhall119> dpm: loading up chrome, will be there in a minute
[15:36] <popey> jose, not sure we can do that in the time you're asking?
[15:37] <jose> I mean, we just gotta make sure there's enough people and ideas on what we may work on
[15:37] <jose> the tasks are for December-January
[15:38] <popey> ah
[15:50] <balloons_> jose, it's interesting.. when is the deadline?
[15:53] <dholbach> balloons, 11 Nov
[15:56] <balloons> ahh, I see https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/
[15:56] <balloons> I didn't know they did this with high school students, interesting. So the requirements are lessened for an organization then?
[15:57] <balloons> jose, " ensure a great support system for these impressionable new contributors, we select organizations that have gained experience in mentoring students by previously taking part in Google Summer of Code."
[15:57] <balloons> I'm not sure we'd qualify; though ubuntu did do GSOC as I understand at some time in the past
[15:57] <balloons> it may be more realistic to shoot for being a mentoring org for GSOC?
[15:58] <jose> it's pretty basic
[16:01] <balloons> jose, I'm happy to try helping, but ofc, we are late to the game
[16:02] <jose> yeah, I know :/ I thought maybe we could try
[16:03] <balloons> popey, I'd like to disable the old jenkins this week. we can leave it up, but it's messing with landings
[16:04] <balloons> popey, you OK with that?
[16:04] <popey> you got my mail about dropping letters?
[16:04] <balloons> yes, adding it this morning
[16:05] <balloons> if you don't want to shut it all down, i still need to shut down some
[16:05] <balloons> ie reminders
[16:08] <popey> balloons, i am happy with it being shutdown if everything has been moved over
[16:09] <balloons> popey, it all should be. I just want to keep the old system around as a backup until everything is ready. It should more or less be ready, but I have one more criteria for CI to finish. We need to test backup and redeploy. It doesn't work yet apparently, or at least didn't last week
[16:19] <popey> heh
[16:19] <popey> details.... details :)
[16:41] <balloons> jose, so docs team I think would be a good place to start for tasks
[16:43] <balloons> On the QA side, I can pickup tasks from the roles page; pretty straightforward. How many tasks are needed / how specific? It's rather unclear how much overhead is created should a team add tasks. I'm curious how much you and other admins would need to coordinate
[17:27] <dholbach> all right - have a great rest of your day - see you all tomorrow!
[17:28] * davidcalle +1, have a nice end of day o/
[17:28] <mhall119> jose: ping flavor devs for gci tasks too, I'm sure they all have some they could contribute
[19:46] <mhall119> jose: pinging you again about your UbuCon@FOSSETCON talk, ping me back when you have a minute
[19:46] <jose> mhall119: pong, I'll get to a PC in 15
[19:47] <mhall119> jose: hey, I just need to confirm your talk title and if you're able to present on the morning of the 19th
[19:52] <jose> mhall119: definitely! title should be something like "Juju, orchestrating your cloud instances"
[19:52] <jose> mhall119: do we have the schedule for the day somewhere?
[19:54] <mhall119> jose: for UbuCon, that's what I'm putting together now
[19:54] <mhall119> for FOSSETCON, I don't know
[19:54] <jose> mhall119: yeah, for ubucon at fossetcon
[19:55] <jose> btw if you need help with setup, I will be there starting the day before with Ian
[20:01] <mhall119> jose: the plan is to have 3 hour-long sessions before lunch, you me and tedg, then ad-hoc unconference sessions after lunch, probably featuring ahoneybun and chad (desktop team)
[20:01] <mhall119> plus anybody else who wants to propose one after the 3 morning talks
[20:01] <jose> mhall119: like more for general discussion?
[20:02] <mhall119> yeah, I'm basing it off the way jono runs CLS
[20:02] <mhall119> basically people propose a topic and it gets put on the schedule then and there, rather than planning it out ahead of time
[20:02] <mhall119> and it's more round-table
[20:02] <jose> ooooh nice
[20:02] <jose> if you want me to print posters I can do that, they would be A3 sized posters, they're quite cheap over here (between $1 and $2)
[20:02] <mhall119> chad and aaron both said they had things to talk about, but couldn't fill an hour-long slot
[20:03] <jose> also, will balloons be there?
[20:03] <mhall119> jose: sure, we can post them in the hall and by the room doors
[20:03] <mhall119> I don't think he's going to make it down this time, no
[20:03] <jose> oh wel0p
[20:03] <jose> welp*
[20:03] <mhall119> we'll be missing lyz too :(
[20:04] <jose> yeah :(
[20:05] <mhall119> hopefully we'll have itnet7 there though
[20:12] <jose> oooh that's nice. I haven't seem him since last year
[20:18] <jose> mhall119: oh, also, are we planning on having an ubuntu dinner?
[21:09] * pleia2 has to be home sometimes :)
[21:11] <pleia2> I am sorry to miss it though
[23:45] <popey> marcoceppi_, oi oi, turn the music down a tiny bit, can't hear you :)
[23:45] <popey> marcoceppi_, \o/
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.009109
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-hr
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[07:09] <vileni> Mmike: da, percona
[07:13] <Mmike> vileni, de logove, percona bi trebala raditi potpuno ok
[07:13] <Mmike> vileni, sto ti je provider?
[07:13] <Mmike> brb, idem u ofis
[07:24] <vileni> Mmike: cek da vidim uopce sto se dogadjalo, necu stici prije navecer se baviti time :)
[08:10] <BotoSmoto> Jutro, junacine
[08:11] <Mmike> vileni: a, tko/sto ti je provider? MAAS?
[08:12] <BotoSmoto> MAAS-a je mama ! :)
[08:14] <Mmike> o, smotoblot
[08:14] <Mmike> djesi
[08:19] <BotoSmoto> Eo gledam rezultate izbora i placem
[08:24] <hbogner> placi brezo bijela
[08:38] <Mmike> BotoSmoto: zakaj places?
[08:41] <dodobas> yutro
[08:46] <obrut> Mmike: ti festas ? :)
[08:47] <Mmike> pa, i ne
[08:47] <Mmike> al' nit ne placem :)
[08:47] <Mmike> pa me zanima zakaj ovaj place? :)
[08:48] <obrut> vjerojatno je tuzan zasto hdz nije osvojio vise mandata
[08:55] <vileni> Mmike: maas, da
[08:56] <Mmike> obrut: dvojim, osim ak mu SilverSpace nije haknuo akaunt :)
[08:57] <jelly> place... od smija!
[08:58] <obrut> hihi :)
[09:04] <dodobas> tko place ?
[09:04] <dodobas> SilverSpace: jos pijan lezi na podu ...
[09:04] <dodobas> :)
[09:38] <pkiller> već mi 20 min kompajla node.js v5.0 na scaleway... a treba mi 0.10 :)
[09:40] <pkiller> ma sve dok diaspora bude smjela glasat izbori nemaju smisla
[09:45] <dodobas> i sto mislite da ce se sad dogoditi, a sto bi zeljeli da se dogodi
[09:46] <obrut> meni je fascinantno da o mojoj buducnosti odlucuje netko tko zivi u australiji i nema pojma sta se dogadja ovdje nego zivi u nekom paralelnom svijetu te pusi price ekipe u obilasku
[09:48] <dodobas> obrut: a zna se tko je otisao... i tko ce se vratiti i 'investirati' milijune australskih/americkih/kandaskih dolara
[09:48] <obrut> recimo ujak mog starog, koji je otisao u Australiju prije mog rodjenja, nisam ga nikad vidio, nije bio nikad ovdje poslije, je izjavio da ce se vratit u rvacku i tu ce dobit kucu/stan, valjda i posao, jer eto, to su im tamo tako rekli
[09:51] <dodobas> i ima covik pravo, sta bi se on vraco ako nema kucu i poso
[09:54] <Mmike> nebi se nit ja vrac'o da mi ne daju kucu i stan
[09:57] <dodobas> Mmike: cek cek, mi tek moramo otici, da bi se vratili... :)
[09:57] <Mmike> ma dobro
[09:57] <Mmike> to pricam da odem, jel
[09:57] <pkiller> ako rvatska bude tonula bježat ćemo pravac njemačka svi, kao miševi sa titanika. Pa nismo mi "bend" da se zabavljamo i sviramo dok brod tone :)
[09:57] <dodobas> njemacka... probaj bar neku drugu tektonsku plocu
[09:58] <obrut> al frajer brije da ce to dobit dzabe, onak da rvacka to povratnicima dijeli, sve ce im dat, kucu/stan, posao... ovdje onak tece med i mlijeko
[09:58] <Mmike> obrut: a kaj mu vi velite? :)
[09:58] <obrut> "ne pricaj gluposti"
[09:58] <Mmike> :)
[09:58] <Mmike> no, on i dalje? :)
[09:58] <pkiller> obrut: reci mu da ako jos jednom glasa za HDZ da ćete ga se odreći :)
[09:59] <Mmike> ja imam 2 frenda na FBu koje znam jos pra-doba irca, 1995ta, 1996ta... kul momci, zajedno smo hrpu irc ratova imali, tejkoverali cuda i tako to
[09:59] <Mmike> i sad na FBu, kad se isti pojavio, postali frendovi
[09:59] <Mmike> i dodje Joey-OstatCuDoma-Spreman incident, i buka oko toga
[10:00] <Mmike> i buka se stisa, te par mjeseci nakon stisavanja javi se taj moj frend na FBu sa slikom nekog engleskog nogometasa koji je tribinama pokazao srednji prst i dobio kaznu od, ne znam, 10k funti
[10:00] <Mmike> i taj moj frend komentira ispod, u stilu: kakva nepravda, ovaj uvrijedi cijelu tribinu i dobije samo 10k funti kaznu, a nas Joey samo pozdravlja svoj dom i potjeraju ga s natjecanja
[10:01] <Mmike> i ja odgovorim: 'de, brate, ovo vise nije nit smijesno'. A veli lik 'kak to mislis?'. Pa reko 'get your facts straight - ustase = nacizam = zlocesto'
[10:01] <Mmike> i javi se njih 40 'hrvata' iz australije da sta ja da nemam pojma da mi ispralo mozak da ja ne znam di zivim da ovo da ono
[10:01] <Mmike> onda sam disejblao fejzbuk :)
[10:01] <pkiller> jao daj imena da im iskljucim struju i vodu preko neta
[10:02] <Mmike> Bill Jovich, Dean Niksich i ini
[10:02] <obrut> sve veliki hrvati za razliku od nas malih koji ovdje zivimo
[10:02] <pkiller> beskrajna je samo glupost :)
[10:02] <obrut> i placamo poraz i to
[10:03] <obrut> htio sam reci porez, ali nisam puno fulao :P
[10:03] <pkiller> vidio bi njega da mora njegov poslodavac 50% njegove plaće dati državi... koliko bi imao plaću u australiji
[10:03] <Mmike> obrut: moja perspektiva je da je svukud u kurcu, manje ili vise - a na tebi je, k'o pojedincu, da se snadjes najbolje sto mozes, di god zivio i tko god bio na vlasti
[10:04] <Mmike> jer, koliko god da nam je u kurcu drzava, bolje nam je nego u maliju, somaliji, keniji, pakistanu, bangladesu, kambodzi i inima
[10:04] <pkiller> Mmike: potpisujem
[10:04] <Mmike> doduse, malo mi je muka kad vidim koja je tu perspektiva i potencijal, a kako su ljudi zatucani
[10:04] <Mmike> al' stash sad, jebiga
[10:04] <Mmike> izac na izbore, glasat za NEHDZSDP
[10:04] <Mmike> i nakon toga rudarit
[10:05] * Mmike se prezdro kolacica
[10:05] <Mmike> nekih
[10:05] <Mmike> muka mi je
[10:05] <dodobas> ili glasat ZAHDZSDP, pa se valjat pijan po podu, jer su tvoji 'pobjedili' :)
[10:05] <dodobas> nego... sto bi zeljeli a sto mislite da ce se dogoditi
[10:07] <obrut> ja bi jeza... a sto ce se dogodit, bogtepitaj
[10:08] <Mmike> [sudo] password for mario:
[10:08] <Mmike> Are you on drugs?
[10:08] <Mmike> [sudo] password for mario:
[10:08] <Mmike> Your mind just hasn't been the same since the electro-shock, has it?
[10:08] <Mmike> :D:D:D
[10:09] <Mmike> dodobas: ja bi da most pokaze prst svima i da imamo nove izbore. Nada je da ce se nakon toga ekipa 'prebaciti' na MOST jer ce vidjeti da nisu pizde i da su odrzali obecanje da nece koalirati ni sa kime.
[10:15] <jelly> Mmike: ja bi da se hdz i sdp dogovore, pa da ljudi vide koja je to neprincipijelna bagra. Na ovim izborima se nece desiti da se vecina prebaci na most.
[10:15] <Mmike> jelly: mislis, da zajedno naprave koaliciju veliku?
[10:15] <jelly> ali ako se ovi dogovore, bit ce na iducim...
[10:15] <jelly> da
[10:15] <Mmike> a moze i to :)
[10:15] <Mmike> tad pada vlada sam tak skoro :)
[10:16] <Mmike> ugl, nisam nezadovoljan kako su izbori tekli do sad
[10:17] <dodobas> Mmike: to je ok... ne moraju uci u koaliciju... modu podrzati program... pa kad se pizde pocnu migoljit... srusit vladu
[10:18] <dodobas> to po meni ima skoro isti efekt... samo sad jos imas i potvrdu da se stvarn drze onog sto su rekli
[10:19] <dodobas> a mislim... koliko puta mogu mrtvi glasat ... ? :)
[10:19] <dodobas> autobusi puni zombija... kostaju...
[10:30] <pkiller> inače još mi kompajlira... taj scaleway je dobar dok ne mora procesor radit :)
[10:30] <Mmike> novi ocloud sync client se rusi svakomalo :(
[10:36] <BotoSmoto> Mmike: zemlje s nevecinskim vladama i usitnjenim koalicijama u pravilu inaju veci rast javnog duga nego ostale, zato placem.
[10:37] <Mmike> u odnosu na sto? na zemlje s SDPom? :D
[10:39] <BotoSmoto> u odnosu na zemlje s vecinskom vladom i/ili zemlje u kojima vladajuce koalicije imaju puno clanova.
[10:39] <BotoSmoto> Stvar je samoobjasnjiva, moras namiriti svakog clana koalicije, to je vise radnih mjesta/projekata nego da moras samo jednu stranku
[10:40] <BotoSmoto> Da se razumijemo, ja sam sretan ako, kak si napisao iznad, MOST pokaze srednjaka i naprave prijevremene vrlo brzo.
[10:40] <BotoSmoto> Onda ce HDZ i SDP koalirati i znamo da se selimo u Koreju jer ima vise demokracije
[10:51] <BotoSmoto> Zakaj moram sudo-ati openvpn kod spajanja ? zake to nemre neki imenovani korisnik cherat ?
[10:58] <ruthr> mozda zato kaj ti obican korisnik nema ovlasti za tun/tap dev ..
[11:00] <BotoSmoto> Nda, da sam malo promislio :) Hvala
[11:03] <ruthr> sutra je dan D za core :)
[11:05] <BotoSmoto> Nije nuzno. Problem je definitivno u STP-u, kak je krenulo s ovima ne bumo nikaj prije vikenda :( Valjda ce mi netko platit' sto sam u subotu na hladnom :D
[11:09] <Mmike> STP? spanning tree?
[11:09] <BotoSmoto> Ae
[11:10] <BotoSmoto> Netko od umjesanih ima ukljucen loop detection :) (nisam) :D
[11:11] <BotoSmoto> Mmike: si se cuo jos juce s Bobom ? Su stigli glasati prije puta ? :)
[11:11] <Mmike> pojma nemam
[11:11] <Mmike> reko mi je da su mu carapice i papucice i kapice prva liga :)
[11:12] <BotoSmoto> Kakve sad c/p/k ? niste mu valjda stvari kupovali, samo da mora platiti prtljagu u avionu :)
[11:15] <Mmike> ma jok
[11:16] <Mmike> tihana dala lukinih
[11:16] <Mmike> pa smo im to donjeli u nedjelju
[11:16] <Mmike> bili kod frendova zajednickih (rogulje)
[11:16] <Mmike> reko, ak ti ne valja to, ostavi, ja dodjem sutra po to da ne jebem i tebe i njega s robicom
[11:16] <Mmike> i javlja se danas on - da hvala da super da ovo da ono :)
[11:16] <BotoSmoto> Znaci, natrpali ste mu jos 2 ruksaka stvari taman da mora platiti prtljagu :)
[11:17] <BotoSmoto> Vish, ja sam Filipove stvari vakumirao, ako mi se ikad vise posreci sexic i zenica zatrudni ..
[11:17] <BotoSmoto> I, apropo FB i vrucine, imas pravo, sad vidim da ima ekipe kaj ranta jer im nije zima
[11:18] <Mmike> pa ne, jednu vrecicu :)
[11:18] <Mmike> uz opasku 'ak ne pase, ostavi i ne razmisljaj, ja cu to pokupit sutra, moja briga'
[11:18] <Mmike> jer ja MRZIM te kurceve oblekice
[11:18] <Mmike> i onda to moram nosit nekud
[11:18] <Mmike> i onda ovaj to nece uzet
[11:19] <Mmike> i onda to furam u autu tjednima
[11:19] <Mmike> i tak
[11:19] <Mmike> kad ce vise odjeca od celu-loze
[11:19] <BotoSmoto> kurceva oblekica - nakurnjak ! :)
[11:40] <jelly> kitobran
[11:41] <pkiller> eto ne moraš ići nigdje vani radit... http://www.posao.hr/oglasi/chief-architect-front-end-m-f/400844/
[11:41] <pkiller> možeš radit od doma za 67200 kn mjesecno :)
[11:41] <jelly> BotoSmoto: a mozda, MOZDA bi stranke mogle prestati namirivati svoje nesposobne i pocet nekaj... delat ;-)
[11:42] <BotoSmoto> jelly: ziher :) Tak' naivni nismo, osim kad bi pobijedila MOJA stranka :)
[11:42] <BotoSmoto> Govoreci o trecum stranama, FalaDragiBogek na MOST-u ! naime, obecao sam si prosle godine da se idem uclaniti u HDZ ako ove godine pobijede.
[11:43] <jelly> da sam ja most, rekao bi: nema nista novih radnih mjesta, nema novih agencija, koristite ljude koji su vec tamo; mozete dati nekim otkaz al na to mjesto ne smije doci niko
[11:43] <BotoSmoto> Pa to ( ovo zadnje ) ! Samo taj potez bi rascistio sranje u 10 godina.
[11:43] <jelly> uzmi ili ostavi
[11:44] <BotoSmoto> Mislim, jebe mi se, nek' ne budu promjene preko noci, ali da RH na nekikurac lici kad mi sin bude punoljetan :)
[11:45] <BotoSmoto> Mmike: kaj je Kelly lijepio na FB, za sto ga prekvalificiraju tamo u MZiS-u ?
[11:48] <BotoSmoto> Ah,dakle, prijepis iz indeksa: "upravni postupak" , "Uvod u obiteljsko pravo" "uredsko poslovanje i dopisivanje" :)
[11:49] <BotoSmoto> jelly: ovo iznad je kak trenutno izgleda kad ministarstvo znanosti rotira i re-usea kadar :)
[11:49] <BotoSmoto> iz guraca papira u strucnjaka za uredsko dopisivanje !
[11:54] <pkiller> jel se netko od vas prijavljivao na ove "crossover" poslove?
[11:55] <pkiller> baš gledam... da im se uspijem prodat i da radim samo mjesec dana, zaradiobi bruto više nego u godinu dana u hrvatskoj neto :)
[11:55] <jelly> kake crne crossover poslove
[11:56] <pkiller> recimo http://www.posao.hr/oglasi/cloud-infrastructure-architect-m-f/400847/
[11:56] <jelly> Are you 10x more productive than the typical developer? $60/hr
[11:57] <jelly> MARŠ
[11:57] <jelly> cijena za takvu vrstu posla i takvo znanje ne ide ispod $300-500/hr
[11:57] <jelly> $60/hr naplacujem za obicno sistemasenje, domacima
[11:58] <pkiller> to da... ali radiš 2-3 sata :)
[11:59] <pkiller> ja kao njub IT konzultant uzimam $60/hr ali sam zadnji put uzeo prošle godine i to 2 sata :)
[12:02] <jelly> a za sistemca devopsa daju... $30/hr http://www.posao.hr/oglasi/crossover-aws-devops-engineer-m-f/400868/
[12:03] <jelly> i to je bruto, moras si jos sam platit socijalno, zdravstveno, poreze i ina sranja
[12:04] <pkiller> e to je sranje
[12:04] <pkiller> a kako doznati koliko bi te to kostalo?
[12:07] <jelly> kajjznam, pitas Mmiketa koliko njega dodje
[12:07] <BotoSmoto> pkiller: nisam iz oglasa skuzio di je mjesto rada? Od doma, ili ?
[12:08] <jelly> od doma da, "global"
[12:08] <BotoSmoto> Kajaznam, da ne ispadne "od doma" , ali moras letiti na koordinacijske sastanke jednom dvotjedno.
[12:11] <jelly> tlaka
[12:13] <BotoSmoto> Treba mi jos koji monitor kad radim od kuce. Ovo s jednim je tlaka.
[12:13] <BotoSmoto> Nda, i dedicirana soba za sljaku :(
[12:14] <BotoSmoto> Ne smijem nastaviti niz, ispast' ce da se moram seliti, a nisam jos ni ovo otkupio :D
[12:18] <pkiller> BotoSmoto: prodaš im spiku... skupiš ekipu od 10 ljudi da riješite sve što treba po oglasu za posao... odradiš mjesec dana i čim te pitaju da treba ići negdje daš otkaz :)
[12:18] <pkiller> prevariš ih, onako, pošteno :)
[12:19] <pkiller> sigurno nisam ja prvi koji se toga sjetio :)
[12:19] <BotoSmoto> Nemam 10 ljudi koji imaju vremena prekidati redovni posao ( 8-16) kad mi se digne, da zarade 2$
[12:19] <BotoSmoto> Mislim, siguran sam da u Bugarskoj to rade , manja ocekivanja
[12:23] <pkiller> vjerojatno se skupi ekipica od 3-5 ljudi... prijave se na ovakav posao... i jedan je glavni i svi žive lijepo od toga
[12:23] <pkiller> jedan je frontend i ima ih 4 u backendu :P
[12:32] <obrut> i sve je ok dok su backedni responsivni
[12:33] <BotoSmoto> to sam mu i ja rek'o , ku?ac ces mi se ti za 2$ javljat' kad god mi trebas. Mozda netko hoce, ali pitanje je kaj taj netko vrijedi.
[12:41] <pkiller> a gle... da sam znao da ću šta god radio imat skoro istu plaću jer su poslodavci škrti a država pohlepna... sad bi znao samo 1 jezik na pola (hrvatski) a ne 5, i učlanio bi se u hdz :)
[12:44] <BotoSmoto> dafuq! Spojim tablet USBom u monitor, i javi mi MAC adresu i pita jel' moze :)
[12:45] <SilverSpace> dobar dan
[12:45] <BotoSmoto> Miro Majstore !
[12:46] <SilverSpace> ee BotoSmoto
[12:56] <Mmike> mljeh
[12:58] <BotoSmoto> https://www.facebook.com/MissArabUSA/videos/913209345396578/ # BJEZI ! Eksplidirat' ce !
[13:00] <SilverSpace> BotoSmoto: najaci gif :)
[13:00] <BotoSmoto> Umro sam skoro od smijeha :)
[13:00] <SilverSpace> zaboravili barutno punjenje
[13:01] <SilverSpace> i ne moze se nista dogoditi
[13:01] <SilverSpace> ako nije tempirani upaljac
[13:03] <SilverSpace> uopce ne znam kaj su bez postolja radili
[14:34] <jelly> BotaniCar, vileni: mandarine stigle u Zagreb
[14:43] <Mmike> hrvojem: kak se zove stanje u PXCu kad izgubi quorum i prebaci se u 'odjebi' mod? (nemrem nit jedan query pokrenit, "select 1" vraca 'unknown command') ?
[14:43] <Mmike> jelly: ocu i ja (se nac na pivi)
[14:45] <hrvojem> Mmike: sta kaze wsrep_cluster_status
[14:45] <hrvojem> show status jel
[14:46] <Mmike> hrvojem: nemam pojma
[14:46] <hrvojem> sta nemas pojma
[14:46] <Mmike> hrvojem: pa kajjaznam kaj pise :)
[14:46] <Mmike> zanima me kak se zove to stanje
[14:46] <Mmike> aha, tam pise to
[14:46] <Mmike> e jebemu
[14:47] <Mmike> sad moram opet deployat i potrgat :)
[14:47] <hrvojem> da :)
[14:48] <hrvojem> Mmike: ali ne moras ni kidat, pretpostavljam da je status "disconnected" i da je wsrep_ready off
[14:48] <Mmike> http://galeracluster.com/documentation-webpages/galerastatusvariables.html#wsrep-cluster-status
[14:48] <vileni> jelly: kad je primopredaja?
[14:48] <hrvojem> https://www.percona.com/doc/percona-xtradb-cluster/5.6/wsrep-status-index.html#wsrep_ready
[14:48] <Mmike> hrvojem: ma pisem dokumentaciju pa umjesto da napisem 'is in broken fuck-off-won't-talk state' reko da stavim sluzbenu terminologiju :)
[14:48] <hrvojem> Mmike: https://www.percona.com/doc/percona-xtradb-cluster/5.6/wsrep-status-index.html#wsrep_cluster_status
[14:48] <Mmike> koja je razlika izmedju primary i non-primary?
[14:50] <hrvojem> Mmike: http://galeracluster.com/documentation-webpages/weightedquorum.html
[14:52] <Mmike> aaa
[14:52] <Mmike> dada
[14:52] <Mmike> thnx
[14:52] <Mmike> disconnected je kad je oso skroz u kufer (ne vidi nista) a non-primary je kad vidi nesto al' nema kvorum
[14:52] <hrvojem> da
[14:53] <Mmike> hrvojem: non-primary je u biti ista stvar k'o disconnected, client-wise - mosh se spojit al' nemres citat, nemres pisat
[14:53] <Mmike> right?
[14:53] <Mmike> blazena bila percona, btw, fakat se trudite napravit solidniji prozivod od tog mysql govna
[15:02] <hrvojem> mozes se spojit, ali dobijes ERROR 1047 (08S01): Unknown command
[15:05] <obrut> vidim ja da mnogi jos nisu culi za postgres :)
[15:12] <jelly> vileni BotoSmoto MmikeBezmandarinski: kad god se dogovorimo, ne treba čekat do četvrtka... danas? 17:00? 18:00? sutra?
[15:15] <jelly> .np jellese
[15:15] <datase> jelly: Henry Mancini - The Pink Panther Theme
[15:21] <Mmike> hrvojem: kaj nije mogla poruka o gresci bit 'Not Enough Suggar'
[15:21] <Mmike> obrut: in all fairnes, postgresu fali m-m
[15:21] <Mmike> doduse, ima dobar razlog zast fali, al' svejedno :)
[15:21] <Mmike> idem doma
[15:27] <SilverSpace> pin pong
[15:43] <jelly> Mmike: svima fali m-m
[15:46] <Vlado9A3CY> dobar dan :)
[15:48] <obrut> ja ne vjerujem u konzistentnost m-m baza :)
[15:48] <jelly> kolega kupio Nokiu 8250, sad se prisjecamo melodija
[16:25] <vileni> Mmike: ovaj tvoj state description bi mi vise informacija dao nego sluzbeni :)
[16:33] <jelly> Mmike: ha, neki lik na #debian ima slicnu situaciju kao ti neki dan i nasao je rp_filter=2 http://jensd.be/468/linux/two-network-cards-rp_filter
[16:33] <Mmike> vileni: ae :)
[16:33] <Mmike> obrut: pa ak baza implementira 2pc, onda ok
[16:34] <SilverSpace> ln
[17:29] <vileni> izgleda da links ima chromecast u ponudi
[17:29] <vileni> i nisu bas jeftini
[18:02] <Mmike> vele ljudi da je onaj fire bolji
[18:15] <vileni> Mmike: da, ali preskup je
[18:16] <vileni> a drugo, mene zanima chromecast audio
[18:31] <BotoSmoto> obrut: ping
[18:32] <BotoSmoto> obrut: jel delaju jos oni pilot DSL podaci ?
[18:32] <BotoSmoto> jelly: sutra pashe!
[18:42] <hbogner> o/
[18:45] <vileni> meni pase u 18h
[18:45] <vileni> moze i sutra
[18:55] <hbogner> vileni, di to idemo pit?
[18:56] <vileni> hbogner: na mandarine :)
[18:56] <hbogner> hmm, pivo od mandarina, to nisam probao
[18:57] <nicols> jutro!
[18:58] <vileni> o nicols
[18:59] <hbogner> ola nicols
[19:01] <nicols> ojla vileni, ojla krcko!
[19:04] <nicols> tko koristi ovu grupu za trgovanje mandarinama?
[19:05] <nicols> jel postoji još koji kanal na ovom freenode-u a da ima domaće raje?
[19:06] <hbogner> nicols, mi ju koristimo za trgovanje mandarinama
[19:07] <hbogner> ima jos kanala, #linux.hr #linuxzasve.com su neki od njih
[19:08] <Mmike> vileni, meni s tim jedino zabavno kaj jubito mosh lako pustat
[19:10] <vileni> Mmike: nemam bas cesto situacije da pustam youtube na veliki ekran, a i kad imam onda to sa laptopa pa imam plugin za kodi
[19:10] <Mmike> ma, i ja
[19:10] <Mmike> al' plugin je totalno los
[19:10] <Mmike> a ovo mosh s mobitela
[19:10] <Mmike> i onda ak je tulumiska pa vas je 10ak
[19:10] <Mmike> mogu svi pustat, jedan po jedan
[19:10] <vileni> ali hocu curi staviti taj audio na zvucnike u kuhinji
[19:10] <vileni> jer obicno pusta sa mobitela
[19:14] <BotoSmoto> [umetni audiofilski komentar na pustanje s mobitela]
[19:18] <vileni> jos da vidis high tech zvucnike na koje se pusta
[19:19] <BotoSmoto> :D
[19:19] <vileni> oni bijeli kompjuterski sa plavom mrezicom, nakoseni
[19:19] <vileni> jako popularni krajem stoljeca
[19:19] <vileni> http://www.6thplanet.com/store/product/snd_spk_teac_pm120_l.jpg
[19:23] <Vlado9A3CY> lol
[19:24] <Vlado9A3CY> pa jos kad te zvucnike stavi na najgornju policu :D
[19:54] <Mmike> kak da prebacim aplikaciju s moba na drugi mob
[19:54] <Mmike> radi se o Angry Birds Pop
[19:54] <Mmike> moraju svi nivoi koji su predjeni bit prebaceni
[19:59] <BotoSmoto> Neki backup/restore softver, predlozit' onaj Titanium Backup nemrem jer ima pricetag :)
[20:05] <hbogner> titanimum backup ima osnoven funckije i bez licence
[20:09] <BotoSmoto> Je, ali jedna od osnovnih funkcija nije bila export na vanjski medij zadnje kad sam gledao. Se to promijenilo ?
[20:11] <vileni> Mmike: titanium backup ako je rootano
[20:11] <Mmike> nije
[20:11] <Mmike> nit jedan nije rootan
[20:11] <vileni> onda bih rekao nikako :) ali mozda ima nesto novo
[20:34] <Mmike> hm
[20:38] <Mmike> amis amis
[20:38] <Mmike> vileni, zakaj mislis da mi treba root za to?
[20:38] <Mmike> mtp i linux i samsung galaxy
[20:38] <Mmike> no dice ;)
[20:47] <Mmike> fakat, nemres
[20:47] <Mmike> ak nije rootano
[20:47] <Mmike> kakva idijotarija!
[21:58] <jelly> jos jedna stvar koju ajfon ima bolje rijeseno (i bez roota)
[22:07] <Mmike> yup
[22:07] <Mmike> znatno bolje
[22:07] <Mmike> doduse, mislim da tam mosh samo u cloud backupirat
[22:07] <Mmike> ovo je fakin uzas :)
[22:08] <Mmike> uz to sto mtp u linuxu (ubuntu14.04 + KDE) ne radi kak spada
[22:08] <Mmike> ne znam dal' je do mobitela ili koji kufer
[22:08] <nicols> što s mtp i linux i samsung galaxy ?
[22:08] <Mmike> al' imam DCIM/Camera direktorij i unutra oko 3500 fajlova, 11GB sveskup - nakon drkanja mi pokaze sve JPGove al' ne i MP4ove
[22:08] <Mmike> nicols, ne radi
[22:08] <Mmike> nicols, na galaxys2 ne radi opce, na s5mini radi nekak kilavo
[22:08] <nicols> koji galaxy? koja verzija androida?
[22:08] <nicols> jer meni radi
[22:09] <Mmike> vish, moram poslije na xperiji pogledat dal' radi
[22:09] <Mmike> mislim da mi na laptopu radi, pa je moguce do mobitela
[22:09] <Mmike> nicols, radi ak prebacim iz MPT u onaj drugi drek (na s5mini)
[22:09] <Mmike> na s2 nece uopce
[22:10] <nicols> koji drugi drek?
[22:10] <nicols> ja nemam na s4 mini nikakav drugi drek?
[22:13] <Mmike> PPT, PTP ili tako nesto
[22:13] <Mmike> PTP
[22:14] <Mmike> pardon, nicols , radi preko MPT, al' ne za DCIM/Camera, za taj veli da je prazan :D
[22:14] <nicols> http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/nbelavic/s4mini-mtp_zpsawxyuzqe.png
[22:14] <Mmike> a na PTPu radi, al nece pokazat mp4 fajlove
[22:15] <Mmike> s tim da to moram s konquerorom, jer Dolphin ne kuzi PTP drekove
[22:15] <Mmike> ma, uzas, jednom rjecju
[22:15] <Mmike> je, nicols, radi to i meni, i onda kad udjem unutra, pimpek :)
[22:15] <Mmike> mtp:/Galaxy S5 mini/Card/DCIM/Camera
[22:16] <Mmike> eto, prazno :)
[22:16] <Mmike> mogu - plakat :)
[22:16] <Mmike> a nemrem nac adapter za microSD nikud, srce mu spalim
[22:16] <Mmike> pogubio sam USB stickova i sranja, poludit :/
[22:16] <nicols> http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/nbelavic/s4mini-mtp2_zpsquiomgu7.png
[22:16] <Mmike> kaj, sad ja tebi moram skrinsot napravit da ti pokazem da ne radi? :)
[22:16] <Mmike> (meni, jel)
[22:17] <nicols> jel imaš kio instaliran?
[22:17] <Mmike> konqueror mi ovo otvori: camera:/Mass%2520Storage%2520Camera@disk:%252Fmedia%252F3862-6437
[22:17] <Mmike> naravno, dam nemam nist
[22:17] <Mmike> kio?
[22:17] <Mmike> cek
[22:17] <nicols> kio-mtp ?
[22:18] <Mmike> mario@BUNTOR ~> apt-cache policy kio-mtp
[22:18] <Mmike> kio-mtp:
[22:18] <Mmike> Installed: 0.75+git20140304-1
[22:19] <nicols> evo sad sam uštekao ženin S2 i radi
[22:20] <nicols> dijete mi ima Galaxy S (jedinicu) sa nekim cyanogenmod i to isto radi
[22:20] <Mmike> koja verzija tog kijoja?
[22:20] <nicols> sinko ima neki ZTE isto preko mtp-a se spajam
[22:20] <Mmike> i koji ubuntu?
[22:21] <Mmike> moguce skroz da je u 14.04 to potrgano
[22:21] <nicols> http://pastebin.com/xa0u79cv
[22:21] <nicols> 15:10, ali to je radilo i na 14:04 i na 15:04
[22:22] <nicols> 14:10 sam preskočio pa nemogu tvrdit :)
[22:22] <Mmike> 0.75+git20140304-2
[22:22] <Mmike> ja imam -1 :D
[22:22] <Mmike> a koja verzija mtp-toolsa?
[22:24] <Mmike> sve druge foldere/direktorije pokaze ok, osim ovog koji ima tristo trilijardi fajlova
[22:24] <nicols> nemam instaliram mtp-tools
[22:24] <Mmike> ii mtp-tools 1.1.6-20-g1b9f164-1ubuntu2.1 amd64 Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library tools
[22:24] <nicols> doduše i meni neki puta dugo traje dok izlista folder sa preko 2000 slika ali ga ipak prikaže
[22:25] <Mmike> mario@BUNTOR ~> apt-cache policy kio
[22:25] <Mmike> N: Unable to locate package kio
[22:25] <Mmike> da, 14.04 to sve ima potrgano
[22:25] <BotoSmoto> super je hyper-v tutnuo VM-u SCSI disk online, extendao sve i hola-hup tup-tup
[22:25] <nicols> imam libmtp-common libmtp-runtime i libmtp9:amd64
[22:26] <nicols> hyper-v je smeče na kvadrat
[22:26] <BotoSmoto> Zake ?
[22:26] <nicols> because reasons
[22:26] <BotoSmoto> lolchek
[22:27] <BotoSmoto> [ insert pun ]
[22:28] <Mmike> hyper-v ne radi na linuxu :D
[22:29] <BotoSmoto> kak to mislis ne radi, brijem da ga mozes nestat'
[22:29] <BotoSmoto> sve moze :)
[22:29] <hbogner> laku noc
[22:29] <BotoSmoto> nn
[22:29] <nicols> Mmike: a jebate led. kak ne radi?
[22:29] <nicols> :D :D :D
[22:30] <Mmike> woot?
[22:30] <Mmike> ovaj s5 je totalno u banani
[22:30] <Mmike> ili nesto drugo zbrljano jako
[22:30] <nicols> ma ne to
[22:30] <nicols> sjeban je tvoj desktop
[22:31] <nicols> nego, pustimo sad to
[22:31] <Mmike> veli mi da je sDkartica 29G (a 32G je, al' ajde, gigabajt/gibibajt), a u s2 mi je pokazivao da ima 12GB free:)
[22:31] <nicols> kak to hyper-v ne radi pod linuxom???? :D :-P
[22:31] <BotoSmoto> Ma sve radi na , pod i pored svega ! 2015 je ! :)
[22:32] <nicols> ti si još smješniji :D
[22:32] <BotoSmoto> azure podrzava linux, openstack moze prozvakat' hyper-v , gemistec :)
[22:32] <nicols> https://twitter.com/sadserver/status/524959493176582144
[22:33] <BotoSmoto> sadserver je super, ali komentari su vecinom ocajni
[22:35] <BotoSmoto> Mmike: https://twitter.com/sadserver/status/659774071220006912
[22:37] <nicols> The Internet of Things will revolutionize the number of devices which you disappoint.
[22:38] <nicols> everyone and everything you know, someday, will be forgotten
[22:38] <nicols> except for IPv4
[22:40] <Mmike> nicols, ti upgrade napravis ili frisko instaliras buruntu?
[22:40] <nicols> ja sam 15.04 ubijo skroz
[22:40] <nicols> zapetljao se u hrpu nekih dependency errora
[22:40] <nicols> tak da sam ga ubijo i instalirao iznova
[22:41] <nicols> sad više ne stavljam daily-build i experimental repo-e :D
[22:41] <nicols> meni omiljena: The best part of cloud computing is that it's lowered expectations for the rest of us.
[22:44] <Mmike> o, lol
[22:44] <Mmike> xperiju mi opce ne prepozna KDE :)
[22:44] <Mmike> nist se ne desi :)
[22:44] <Mmike> aha, pardon
[22:44] <Mmike> desi se
[22:44] <Mmike> samo je trajalo malo
[22:45] <Mmike> nicols, eo vish, xperija fino nema MTP sranje nego se namounta k'o USB storage i sve radi pika-poka
[22:47] <nicols> to je neka stara xperija? :)
[22:48] <Mmike> nope
[22:48] <Mmike> neg sam izabrao 'mass storage'
[22:48] <Mmike> sad sam prebacio na MTP
[22:48] <Mmike> i ne radi
[22:48] <Mmike> tj, radi, jedva
[22:48] <Mmike> k'o na s5
[22:48] <Mmike> nesh moh ubuntu ima potrgato
[22:48] <Mmike> to je upgrade sa 13.04, preko 13.10 na 14.04
[22:49] <Mmike> a taj MTP je usran od pocetka
[22:51] <nicols> In order to provide better quality of service, Corporate has revised the definitions of "quality" and "service."
[23:01] <Mmike> nisam nikad ovak dugo bio na ljetnim gumama
[23:01] <Mmike> sad mi je drago kaj jos nisam zimske naturio
[23:12] <nicols> http://agar.io/
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[00:06] <daftykins> time for an early night i think
[00:06] <daftykins> TJ-: go team fix-ksft ;)
[00:06] <pauljw> gnite daftykins
[00:06] <TJ-> ha, he's gone quiet now
[00:07] <TJ-> I might sneak off too :)
[00:07] <daftykins> must be excitedly gaming ;)
[00:07] <daftykins> pauljw: oh hello! and goodbye! :D
[00:07] <daftykins> OerHeks: \o
[00:07] <pauljw> :)
[00:09] <TJ-> gee whiz, another user-created mess :) HOW do they do it? I'm supposed to be dangerous but I've never been able to mess systems up like our users manage
[00:10] <Bashing-om> TJ-: IRT ksft :) cool sluething !
[00:12] <TJ-> just follow the trail... logs are everything
[01:47] <pauljw> gnite all
[02:50] <OerHeks> "when i changed kernals" ... duhhh
[02:50] <TJ-> 14.04 > 15.10 I think speedy means
[02:51] <OerHeks> good luck man, i am off to bed :-)
[02:59] <TJ-> night :)
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:28] <TJ-> morning!
[05:28] <TJ-> I need to go to bed but been caught up
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[05:58] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I fired up the WMP600N with a 32-bit 15.10 install; it worked fine. So if you can test with 32-bit too so we can know if you have a system problem, or just the amd64 architecture, that'll narrow things down. The system here I tested with only has 32-bit CPUs fitted so I can't test on that with amd64. I'll try to dig out a 64-bit in the week, but all my PCs are racked up so I need to put
[05:58] <TJ-> some parts together to do it.
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:20] <daftykins> heya \o
[12:27] <BluesKaj> hi daftykins
[12:30] <daftykins> well i'll be, turns out cp does work just fine for ISOs
[12:30] <daftykins> sudo cp /path/to/iso /dev/sdX
[12:30] <daftykins> a quick "sync" after to be sure, and hey presto
[14:14] <BluesKaj> daftykins, bootable?
[14:14] <daftykins> yep, tested it
[14:15] <BluesKaj> cool
[14:15] <daftykins> the partitions read as really weird on it though, from both fdisk and parted
[14:16] <BluesKaj> weird , how?
[14:18] <daftykins> i've not got a host up anymore to pastebin
[14:18] <daftykins> gotta nip out to the banks :) i'll give it a whirl later
[15:48] <lotus|xenial> good afternoon to all
[15:49] <TJ-> Hiho :)
[15:49] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: wily 32bit dint fix, same IBM card+ id
[15:49] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: OK, so now it's a hardware issue. What's the make/model. Or just "dmesg | grep DMI"
[15:49] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: tryed few bios stuff again, no success either
[15:50] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: /KV8-MAX3 (VIA K8T800-8237), BIOS 6.00 PG 06/29/2004
[15:50] <TJ-> I suspect a motherboard fault in the PCI chipset
[15:50] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: that would make sense
[15:52] <TJ-> lotus|xenial: do you have a web link to the manufacturers pages for that mobo? My search-fu is failing me
[15:54] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://www.cnet.com/products/abit-kv8-pro-3rd-eye-motherboard-atx-socket-754-k8t800-pro/specs/
[15:55] <lotus|xenial> or
[15:55] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: http://abit.ws/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php@pMODEL_NAME=KV8-MAX3&fMTYPE=Socket%20754&pPRODINFO=BIOS
[15:56] <TJ-> thanks, got it. Can get the manual now
[16:03] <TJ-> hmmm, all their links to manuals are broken
[16:03] <lotus|xenial> yeah abit is bit broken overall
[16:04] <TJ-> like their mobo :p
[16:04] <lotus|xenial> lol
[16:09] <TJ-> Can you tell me *exactly* what other PCI adapters are plugged into the mobo, and *which* PCI slot each is in? PCI5 is the outside edge of the mobo, PCI1 is nearest the AGP slot. On these older boards slots have to share resources such as IRQs and it was a common issue needing to play about with slot positions to get a group of PCI adapters to work
[16:10] <TJ-> Also, is the GPU using the AGP slot?
[16:11] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: only 1 pci slot used for the wifi card
[16:11] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: yes its an old ati x800 agp
[16:11] <TJ-> which slot is the WMP600N in currently?
[16:11] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: its the second last pci slot down
[16:11] <lotus|xenial> not sure wich irq
[16:12] <lotus|xenial> but ive tested 3 pcie slots already
[16:12] <lotus|xenial> pci sorry
[16:13] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: lets continue another time mate i have to bbl
[16:13] <lotus|xenial> TJ-: just wanna come say wily 32bit didnt work :p
[16:13] <lotus|xenial> cu laterz
[16:37] <TJ-> whois is this cap, it's giving out bad suggestions. Anyone recognise ?
[16:40] <daftykins> must be a new name for our buddy pikachu
[16:40] <daftykins> aka pikapi :)
[16:41] <daftykins> i don't 100% think so, cap seems able to actually construct a sentence
[16:43] <TJ-> Yeah, but throwing out things that show a lack of awareness
[16:44] <TJ-> These are the more dangerous types. They sound authoratitive and people follow their instructions
[16:45] <daftykins> *nod*
[16:46] <daftykins> could be worth logging a warning in #ubuntu-ops like i did with pikapi
[16:46] <TJ-> Wait and see a bit more yet; I think my warning earlier put a shot across the bows
[16:47] <TJ-> i might need some backup; looks like I'm contradicting it again :)
[16:51] <daftykins> backup?
[16:51] <daftykins> back shortly
[17:25] <EriC^^> man im so lazy i want to go get that hdmi cable keep saying i'll go tomorrow :>
[17:26] <daftykins> tut tut!
[17:26] <daftykins> as soon as you join IRC, all bets are off for achieving anything that day i find :)
[17:26] <EriC^^> lol
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> EriC^^ sometimes i copy/paste 'sudo apt-get update' fom a tutorial, because i'm too lazy to type it
[17:28] <EriC^^> i feel like buying a cool camera too
[17:28] <EriC^^> i keep seeing these really awesome sunset views
[17:29] <EriC^^> bunch of trees next to eachother on a mountain, dark green, and sun is showing behind them and you can see between the trees
[17:29] <EriC^^> MonkeyDust: lol
[17:32] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, i am so lazy,i pressarrowup untill i find it
[17:32] <OerHeks> expanded bash history to 5000 lines
[17:33] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: hey you can increase your efficiency by using "sudo apt update" instead :D
[17:34] <daftykins> very quirky advice from 'cap' indeed.
[17:40] <daftykins> koffel refuses to move off 12.04 - i don't get it.
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> daftykins true that
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> is xenial out yet?
[18:00] <daftykins> an alpha?
[18:01] <daftykins> #ubuntu+1 topic should say
[18:08] <daftykins> i don't understand why anyone would prefer dd over clonezilla, why sit there and wait for all the zeroes to go over for the blank space? :)
[18:08] <OerHeks> especially when he does not want to make mistakes indeed
[18:08] <EriC^^> how does dd know it's free space?
[18:08] <EriC^^> i mean clonezilla?
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> i don't get why anyone should use elementary, apart from cosmetics
[18:13] <EriC^^> clonezilla is pretty advanced and stuff, but i think the guy has it all wrong
[18:14] <EriC^^> i dont think he can image a whole drive, and then dd it to sdb1
[18:14] <EriC^^> he expects to have what? /dev/sdb1.1 /dev/sdb1.2 etc.. ?
[18:18] <daftykins> yeah i think you're right there - i've no idea how clonezilla does it, but it is able to identify actually used space and only write that
[18:18] <daftykins> works great for drive cloning when i do SSD upgrades
[18:20] <EriC^^> cool
[18:20] <daftykins> check out the weird fdisk output i got from using "cp file.iso /dev/sdx" earlier - termbin.com/hhva
[18:21] <daftykins> £8 for https://www.dropbox.com/s/kyjytcbwy2mmps8/IMG_20151109_181205.jpg?dl=0 :D
[18:22] <EriC^^> you mean the empty stuff is weird?
[18:23] <daftykins> nah the sdb1p1 and sdb1p2
[18:23] <EriC^^> oh
[18:23] <OerHeks> daftykins, id you 'sync' after that?
[18:23] <daftykins> actually the first empty line is kinda odd too :>
[18:23] <EriC^^> yeah that is odd
[18:23] <daftykins> OerHeks: yep
[18:24] <daftykins> although i didn't use sudo - i wonder if that's important
[18:24] <OerHeks> ehm...yes
[18:24] <daftykins> 8D ah well i'm booted from it on my laptop right now and it works fine
[18:25] <EriC^^> is it an sd card?
[18:25] <EriC^^> i've seen that naming convention with the hybrid weird ass laptop stuff
[18:25] <daftykins> nah the above linked cheap flash drives
[18:33] <TJ-> Looks fine to me
[18:35] <EriC^^> maybe it's cause the disk identifiers are the same?
[18:36] <TJ-> What's the issue with it?
[18:37] <EriC^^> nothing just /dev/sdb1 is odd
[18:38] <TJ-> no; /dev/sdb declares /dev/sdb1 to be type 0 which is a 'whole disk' so the system them looks at /dev/sdb1 (which starts at the same sector 0 as its parent), so sees the same partition table, and creates the partition maps p1 p2 on the 'whole' disk /dev/sdb1
[18:38] <TJ-> because partition 1 starts at sector 0, it contains the partition table itself
[18:39] <OerHeks> maybe you did need sudo?
[18:43] <daftykins> TJ-: nah it works fine, i'd never seen a drive displayed that way was all
[18:43] <daftykins> drat my SSD firmware ISO is a CD image, iso9660 data
[18:50] <daftykins> http://uk.crucial.com/wcsstore/CrucialSAS/firmware/MX100/MU02/MX100_MU02_BOOTABLE_ALL_CAP.zip
[18:50] <daftykins> any thoughts on making that boot from a USB flash drive instead of a CD?
[18:57] <TJ-> It's because the image is hybrid, has a GPT, but the hybrid MBR is broken. p1 is a protection for the entire disk (what we call a protective MBR) but then there's p2 which defines the EFI-SP (inside p1). A correct hybrid would have 3 partitions: p1 0 to 2038759, p2 2038769 to 2043303, and p3 2043304 to 2060287
[18:58] <daftykins> ah i see! probably just been too long since i used fdisk
[18:58] <EriC^^> daftykins: how fast is a ssd compared to a hdd?
[18:59] <daftykins> oh my, they destroy them :>
[18:59] <EriC^^> how fast does it copy stuff?
[18:59] <EriC^^> like 90ish mb/sec?
[18:59] <daftykins> sustained reads from a mechanical HDD? maybe 120MB/sec with a modern one? SSD: it'll saturate SATA 6Gbps ports and do like 450MB/sec read
[19:00] <daftykins> er lets see if i copy SSD to SSD...
[19:00] <EriC^^> cool!
[19:00] <TJ-> Forget sustained, most work on a PC is random I/O ... and that is where SSD wins big. As long as the SSD is connected to a fast interface
[19:00] <daftykins> ja
[19:00] <TJ-> latency is minimial
[19:01] <daftykins> but still i just threw a kubuntu ISO from one SSD onto another, it took about 4 seconds for the 1.3GB file... the windows file copy dialogue said 600MB/sec then fell off to 100MB/sec toward the end
[19:02] <TJ-> Yes, I don't disagree, I was just focusing on the main areas where they win. We rarely spend all our time moving bif files around
[19:02] <TJ-> s/bif/big/
[19:02] <daftykins> EriC^^: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8hwi16hw4eusq0r/ssd%20copy.png?dl=0
[19:02] <daftykins> TJ-: yep, just being juvenile and racing my drives ;)
[19:03] <TJ-> there's also the in-memory cache to consider... that can absorb most ISO images
[19:03] <TJ-> :D
[19:03] <daftykins> and drive controller cache could mask some too
[19:04] <daftykins> ignore my query about the above ISO, i was being silly
[19:04] <EriC^^> the fdisk?
[19:05] <daftykins> nah my SSD firmware .zip
[19:05] <TJ-> I think I may have got to the bottom of lotus' wrong-PCI-ID for that WMP600N device. I think the mobo has a glitch. The manual shows there are some advanced timing settings for the PCI bus masters, and on those old mobos the PCI/AGP slots have to share interrupts too. I think that's at the root of it. Here's the IRQ combination chart from te manual - brought back memories of figuring out best
[19:05] <EriC^^> oh ok
[19:05] <TJ-> permutations with servers having lots of adapters plugged in! https://iam.tj/projects/misc/kv8-pci-irq.jpg
[19:05] * EriC^^ wants an ssd now
[19:05] <daftykins> EriC^^: :D they are the single best advancement for PCs i'd say in... ever
[19:07] <EriC^^> fire sliced bread ssd
[19:07] <EriC^^> :D
[19:07] <TJ-> no... PCIe was that :p
[19:07] <TJ-> switching from a contended bus design to multiple dedicated lanes
[19:07] <daftykins> ok you raise a fair point :D
[19:08] <daftykins> i did get so excited i was about ready to drop £700+ on a skylake build with NVMe SSD
[19:08] <TJ-> hehehehe ... or maybe it was UEFI :D
[19:10] <daftykins> TJ-: a telco engineer i know did a line test for me today and said a line reported it was 6km long XD
[19:11] <TJ-> Ouch!
[19:12] <daftykins> glad i caught him, he retires in a month :(
[19:12] <TJ-> Start burrowing your fibre :)
[19:12] <daftykins> then i won't have my contact anymore!
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> tweet: i just sneezed
[19:16] <TJ-> sneeze: i just tweeted
[19:17] <daftykins> thought i'd investigate 'nc' - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13210489/
[19:17] <daftykins> that was a rabbit hole ;)
[19:47] <EriC^^> can winxp read gpt fine?
[19:50] <EriC^^> TJ-: ?
[19:53] <daftykins> hrmm, not sure on that one
[19:53] <daftykins> sneaking suspicion maybe 64-bit only
[19:53] <daftykins> XP 64-bit was quite rare though
[19:57] <EriC^^> any cool xbox or ps3 games you'd recommend?
[19:57] <EriC^^> i might buy a few tomorrow when i get a hdmi cable
[20:00] <TJ-> XP on GPT? not usually
[20:01] <TJ-> EriC^^: see http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/dm_convert_mbr_disk.mspx?mfr=true
[20:02] <EriC^^> does it seem better to use a backup disk as mbr not gpt?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> for XP I think so
[20:06] <daftykins> in server 2003 you could use GPT as storage but not boot from it iirc, so XP 64-bit can probably use a GPT disk as storage too
[20:06] <daftykins> vanilla 32-bit XP - probably nothing
[20:07] <BluesKaj> W7 didn't even play too nice with gpt on my laptop
[20:08] <BluesKaj> so I went with msdos and legacy
[20:08] <daftykins> hmm i've not had issues
[20:08] <daftykins> my 10TB RAID is storage to a win7 install
[20:09] <BluesKaj> you obviously never delete movies ;-)
[20:12] <daftykins> only the bad ones!
[20:14] <EriC^^> did you see the martian?
[20:15] <BluesKaj> not on bluray yet
[20:15] <EriC^^> markao seems like troll material
[20:17] <daftykins> didn't get around to it, they were booked up in the local cinema :( went to see "The Walk" there instead though, about that ~1970s high wire walker :D
[20:31] <EriC^^> cool
[20:32] <EriC^^> did you like it?
[20:37] <daftykins> yeah enjoyed it
[20:37] <EriC^^> cool
[20:37] <daftykins> amusingly when my friend and i walked in, we were the only 2 there!
[20:37] <EriC^^> lol yeah
[20:37] <EriC^^> happens sometimes
[20:38] <EriC^^> once me and my friend were alone in a theater and so we took off our shoes
[20:38] <EriC^^> he hid my shoes somewhere and after the movie i had to look around for it
[20:39] <EriC^^> lol
[20:39] <daftykins> XD
[20:39] <EriC^^> we might have been drunk i think
[20:39] <BluesKaj> The Martian should be out on bluray in Jan. I live 70Km from the nearest movie theater, so we watch them later
[20:39] <EriC^^> bluray resolution is 4k?
[20:40] <BluesKaj> normal is 1080p
[20:40] <EriC^^> cool
[20:42] <BluesKaj> my TV isn't capable of 4k anyway ...there isn't a lot of source material in that format yet
[20:46] <daftykins> yeah you'd be hard pushed to even get a TV with the right inputs as well as being 4K
[20:46] <daftykins> plus the 'next big thing' is high dynamic range, allegedly - so that'll be coming
[20:46] <EriC^^> cool
[20:46] <EriC^^> i've never tried a bluray movie
[20:47] <BluesKaj> alsao my gpu can'tr handle that res , it's just a 50buck nvidia 8400gs
[20:47] <EriC^^> we have dvd's here for like $1 / movie
[20:47] <EriC^^> normal dvd's not bluray
[20:47] <daftykins> ouch :D that's an old card indeed
[20:48] <BluesKaj> it still works well
[20:48] <daftykins> i like my high bitrate 1080p films with DTS 5.1 :D
[20:49] <BluesKaj> yup, I use the spdif out on the soundcard with vlc into my audio receiver's coax DAC input
[20:51] <daftykins> i have a little HTPC i used to use, intel atom + nvidia ion 1 graphics to make use of VDPAU, decoding the HD formats
[20:52] <daftykins> the other day though i picked up an Amazon FireTV (little black box) with HDMI and 100Mb LAN for £50 delivered :D
[20:52] <daftykins> runs Kodi really nicely as an HTPC
[20:53] <BluesKaj> I used an m-audio soundcad for a while, but it needed pulse audio since it's driver wasn't fully written for website flash, so i reverted to the intel audio which supports alsa much better then most other audio chip drivers
[20:53] <BluesKaj> then=than
[21:33] <EriC^^> this is pretty nuts http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/534986/project-loon/
[21:33] <EriC^^> helium balloons in the stratosphere to provide internet access to the 4.3 billion people who dont have it, by google
[21:36] <daftykins> and don't need it
[21:36] <daftykins> :D
[21:37] <TJ-> I love the idea... better than satellites, but I have images of jumbo jets dodging the balloons rather like German bombers dodging 'blimps' (barrage balloons) over 1940s London
[21:38] <EriC^^> lol
[21:38] * daftykins starts learning to fly
[21:39] <TJ-> Even with LEO, satellite latency is quite high, so 'Loon' has the potential to make a lot of realtime stuff possible
[21:39] <TJ-> Plus the costs are a lot lower, time to deploy is orders of magnitude less, so operational returns don't need to be so high and therefore end-user cost is low
[21:44] <TJ-> I saw a hint earlier we may end up dropping initramfs-tools in favour of dracut (RedHat's tool). Apparently Debian have/are switching
[21:54] <daftykins> spug's query is very niche
[22:02] <TJ-> It's a valid one, though. I've dabbled with enabling wifi in the initrd but never put aside the time to figure it out
[22:02] <TJ-> makes sense when you need to do an iscsi rootfs mount and there's no wired Ethernet
[22:15] <daftykins> i can't imagine when that comes up :D
[22:19] <TJ-> roaming is a typical scenario. it would also be extremely useful when crossing borders with a PC, now that the customs and immigration in so many countries think they have free reign to search laptops and demand cryptographic keys to unlock them
[22:47] <TJ-> About time! "Facebook Inc. lost a fight with Belgium’s privacy watchdog after a court ordered it to stop storing personal data from people who don’t have an account with the social network."
[22:59] <OerHeks> When i want to use some gouvernment pages, they want me to login with facebook, complaining aout neighbours who do not take care of themselves, or survey for our council :-D
[23:00] <OerHeks> silly fools, i wanted to write them .. but i had to login with facvebook to do so
[23:03] <OerHeks> and this one, my bank uses Omniture-tracker, now Adobe Analytics, and i cannot disable it. all my data goes to Obama.
[23:05] <TJ-> I refuse point-blank to use such systems.
[23:06] <OerHeks> If i reject that, i have to walk to the bank and do all payments manually. But 4 out of 5 offices are closed.
[23:06] <TJ-> The UK government recently changed the way our electoral register is compiled from being the responsiblity of the head-of-household to each individual, and to make it possible to register online using various Government ID documents as proof of identity.
[23:07] <TJ-> I looked at the site and it wasn't even hosted on a gov.uk domain, and the TLS X509 certificate wasn't issued to the UK government but to some American company (that had 'won' the contract to do this stuff).
[23:09] <OerHeks> i guess that is why the USA economy is growing, and ours is goind down.
[23:09] <TJ-> I refused to use it so they sent me docs in the mail, but they required me to send colour copies of my ID docs to be held by my local council. I told them to stuff it, no way I'm putting all my most important data in the hands of a bunch of amateurs where it'll be freely accessible in some filing cabinet or online scan. Currently having 'discussions' with them over the entire security of data issue
[23:15] <OerHeks> wait .. US Court finds @NSAGov spying violated Americans' rights. http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/NSA_klayman_20151109.pdf
[23:15] <TJ-> No, it found the NSA violated the rights of a Verizon user who is a firm of lawyers :)
[23:16] <OerHeks> Spying on us is legal.
[23:16] <TJ-> I followed that case; it has gone on for a long while. Several plaintiffs were dismissed from the case for 'lack f standing' - not being able to prove NSA did snoop on their communications
[23:18] <OerHeks> That part is nasty, how to prove they snoop on you.
[23:22] <TJ-> Yeah, terrible that the US Government pulled that one on its own citizens, but that's beauracracies
[23:35] <daftykins> :(
[23:35] <OerHeks> i knew it .. https://www.intellihub.com/vegetarians-beware-plants-dont-like-to-be-eaten-scientists-say/
[23:36] <TJ-> LOL country folks have known that since the dawn of time... why do you think we're so fit... chasing the carrots and potatoes to get them to market!
[23:36] <daftykins> TJ-: does jrolland's sound like it's SMART disk status time? you know how much i love smartctl ;)
[23:37] <TJ-> daftykins: Go for it. I didn't see what the original issue was so I'm flying blind right now
[23:38] <daftykins> ah i think i spotted something about on reboot he got a failed boot, but the partitions are there on a chroot
[23:47] <daftykins> yay for my instincts being right, that's one wonky disk
[23:49] <TJ-> yeah, I thought the user was having issues with the Live ISO, because he was on about the /cow mount
[23:50] <daftykins> *nod* that threw me too
[23:51] <TJ-> I've been popping in and out here; working on things here. Going to have a mug of tea to wind down and then get to bed. Was up until 7am today, grr! I really need to break the habit
[23:52] <daftykins> erk! yep early bed for me tonight, though no tasks for tomorrow as of yet
[23:52] <daftykins> i was just watching a really neat youtube video on analog vs. digital audio
[23:53] <TJ-> that brings back memories; digital compression is what allowed me to retire early
[23:53] <daftykins> oooh
[23:53] <daftykins> i think this chap worked on ogg originally, he's explaining why sample rates in PCM above 44.1kHz are pretty pointless but why they're used in recording etc
[23:55] <TJ-> yeah, sample rate dictates the Nyquist frequency, and 44.1kHz means you've got everything including stuff beyond the range of human hearing
[23:56] <TJ-> But if you're going to resample recordings, you want as high a sample rate as possible to avoid quantization errors, and artefacts
[23:57] <EriC^^> i think i've seen that nyquist thing in a control course in uni
[23:57] <TJ-> ideally whenever you resample, it needs to be on a integer fraction so you just ditch every X samples, rather than have to pick the 'closest' or synthesise it using interpolation
[23:58] <TJ-> sample at 44.1kHz means the highest frequency captured is 1/2 that, because you require a minimum of 2 points on te complete sine wave to reconstruct the waveform
[23:58] <daftykins> EriC^^: :D
[23:59] <daftykins> see i always thought it was double because of stereo ¬_¬
[23:59] <daftykins> 22.05kHz per channel or something XD
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[21:15] <slickyma1ter> flocculant, I'm claiming review of https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/ubuntu-manual-tests/1514221/+merge/276973
[21:16] <flocculant> slickyma1ter: okey doke
[21:17] <slickyma1ter> I'll have one tomorrow morning
[21:17] <slickyma1ter> one review, that is
[21:17] <flocculant> :)
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-cn
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[00:32] <asdf2> 早呀
[00:42] <oracle> 安装14.04 server 和15.10 server 的时候 ，U盘引导进入第一个见面开始就花屏了。。怎么解决？
[00:53] <oracle> 安装14.04 server 和15.10 server 的时候 ，U盘引导进入第一个界面开始就花屏了。。怎么解决？
[01:33] <^k^> 新 启动和引导 • 求助！安装Linux时电脑卡住不工作 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473770 电脑装了win10，想装个双系统，以前也经常装双系统，这次是在公司的电脑上装，然而遇到了问题。用U盘安装Linux， 不论是ubuntu还是fedora还是archlinux，都会在安装进行的时候卡住，有时候是
[01:33] <^k^> ─> 在选着分区设置的时候就卡住了，U盘应该是没有问题的，同事也是一样的电脑，一样的 …
[01:47] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 安装14.04 server 和15.10 server 的时候 ，U盘引导进入第一个见面开始就花屏了。。怎么解决？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473771 花屏花到一个字母都看不见。 笔记本 双显卡 nvidia GT640m zz: mystical — 2015-11-09 9:45
[01:51] <FranX> 哈喽
[01:51] <FranX> 艾瑞巴蒂
[02:01] <onlylove1> happyaron: 估计我在文思上班的时间，网是不用想指望了，我周末网是正常的，不过上周忘了关客户端
[02:02] <onlylove1> happyaron: 如果我在，那就whois一下，通常客户端是quassel的是单位的机器
[02:02] <onlylove1> happyaron: 我在家一般chatzilla
[02:02] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • Ubuntu 14.04 USB设备全部无法使用,启动后所有USB设备全部掉电 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473772 本人电脑, 联想小新V1000, windows8.1 + ubuntu 14.04 双系统, 但是经常启动ubuntu 下面鼠标、U盘经常就不能用了, 所有的USB设备接口均无法使用,U盘插进去也无法使用. 所
[02:04] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • Ubuntu 14.04 USB设备全部无法使用,启动后所有USB设备全部掉电 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473773 本人电脑, 联想小新V1000, windows8.1 + ubuntu 14.04 双系统, 但是经常启动ubuntu 下面鼠标、U盘经常就不能用了, 所有的USB设备接口均无法使用,U盘插进去也无法使用. 所
[02:38] <yunfan> onlylove1: 报名了 ？
[02:41] <MangHuo> test
[02:41] <ubrl> MangHuo:点点点. 10:38
[02:44] <onlylove> yunfan: 没，那事情，我过几天仔细想想再说，这几天看java in a nutshell
[02:45] <onlylove> yunfan: 国内一个网站下载的sdk,也不知道靠谱不，要是也来个xcodeghost什么的，才郁闷
[02:47] <onlylove> yunfan: 到时候格式化linux可是够麻烦，主要是我没安装盘，当时是虚拟机打包之后用slax解压回去的，里面lm-sensor什么的，一堆东西没有
[02:56] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • lubuntu怎样隐藏桌面图标 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473774 请问如何隐藏桌面图标？ 网上搜了以下方法不行：（lubuntu没有找到/apps/nautilus/desktop/分支） 同时按下ALT与F2键，输入gconf-editor，打开配置编辑器 在左侧的树型结构中我们找到/apps/nautilus/desktop
[02:56] <^k^> ─> /分支，去掉volumes_visible前面的复选框，勾上trash_icon_visible，home_icon_visible，computer_icon_visi …
[03:07] <onlylove1> 为啥总感觉那么那么累
[03:07] <onlylove1> tplink的破烂路由，又给我添麻烦，没法过了
[03:12] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.10 • 求助：更新源的问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473776 忽略 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.1) wily InRelease 忽略 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.1) wily/main Translation-zh_CN 忽略 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.1) wi
[03:12] <^k^> ─> ly/main Translation-zh 忽略 cdrom://Ubuntu 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.1) wily/main Translatio …
[03:30] <cherrot> 阿当呢？
[03:33] <onlylove1> cherrot: 当当上午休息，有事下午请早
[03:33] <onlylove__> test
[03:33] <ubrl> onlylove__:点点点. 11:30
[03:33] <onlylove1> test
[03:33] <ubrl> onlylove1:点点点. 11:30
[03:34] <onlylove1> 这虐心的网，真TMD
[03:34] <cherrot> iMadper, 有个奇怪的事情，我在测试环境和生产环境各有一个bare repo，写了个post-receive, 在里面git checkout -f 了一下，用于自动部署，问题来了，测试环境上执行完后所有文件的modify time全都被更新成当前时间，而正式环境只有被修改的文件被更新了modify time。显然后者才是我预期的行为。。。
[03:35] <iMadper> cherrot: tl;dr
[03:36] <cherrot> iMadper, 啪啪啪
[03:42] <iMadper> cherrot: 这谁知道啊
[03:42] <FranX> GFW是不是现代的闭关锁国？
[03:49] <onlylove_> FranX: 和gfw比，轮子更烦
[03:49] <asdf2> 人还蛮多
[04:04] <nipsing> hi
[04:04] <ubrl> nipsing:点点点. 12:01
[04:08] <nipsing> 有人嗎
[04:11] <iMadper> cherrot: 你这问题好奇怪
[04:11] <iMadper> cherrot: 不知道怎么回事.
[04:11] <cherrot> iMadper, 不管了 总之不依赖 git checkout -f 的行为了
[04:12] <cherrot> iMadper, 其实就是想使用modification time 作为版本号提供静态文件
[04:13] <nipsing> 大家下個月就能用上 remixos x86 了
[04:13] <nipsing> 免費下載使用哦
[04:16] <nipsing> 沒人理我:(
[04:16] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • 关联dropbox失败怎么办？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473778 我使用的是VPS，ubuntu 14.04系统， 我是使用论坛里的教程安装dropbox的，。http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/Vps#.E4.BD.BF.E7.94.A8_Dropbox_.E6.AF.8F.E5.A4.A9.E8.87.AA.E5.8A.A8.E5.A4.87.E4.BB.BD 每次执行如下命令开始设置帐
[04:16] <^k^> ─> 号 ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd Please visit https://www.dropbox.com/cli_link?host_id=xxx&cl=en_US to link this machin …
[04:18] <nipsing> 桑心
[04:21] <NWMonster> remixos做到x86上。。。。
[04:23] <nipsing> 參看官網介紹
[04:24] <nipsing> 屌不屌
[04:27] <nipsing> 人生自古誰無屎
[04:30] <nipsing> 魔鬼 習近平
[04:31] <^k^> 逛了一下论坛,暂时无新贴.
[04:57] <onlylove1> 那个nipsing是不是有病啊，要是哪天我需要爬墙上irc，第一件事情就是砸他家玻璃去
[04:58] <yunfan> onlylove1: java官方又没被墙 你干嘛要用国内下的
[05:04] <onlylove1> yunfan: 不是jdk，是android sdk
[05:04] <onlylove1> yunfan: eclipse jdk都没问题，android studio 和android sdk很麻烦
[05:06] <onlylove1> yunfan: 下studio主要是adt需要爬墙，然后N多人在吹嘘studio是intel的社区版搞的，比eclipse好N倍
[05:07] <onlylove1> yunfan: 不过对于我这种shell脚本用户来说，有个能用的就成
[05:08] <onlylove1> yunfan: http://android-studio.org/
[05:08] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Android Studio 中文社区：安卓官方开发工具-Android SDK/JDK/Gradle-下载/安装/升级/教程/汉化
[05:08] <onlylove1> yunfan: 这上面拖的
[05:17] <onlylove1> test
[05:17] <ubrl> onlylove1:点点点. 13:14
[05:17] <onlylove> test
[05:17] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 13:15
[05:20] <yunfan> onlylove: android sdk也不大 除非你非要下android studio
[05:21] <onlylove1> yunfan: 不小了……
[05:21] <yunfan> onlylove1: 几十m而已
[05:21] <onlylove1> yunfan: 无所谓，反正都下下来了，sdk还要改配置获取对应的文件
[05:21] <onlylove1> yunfan: 几十？你确定？
[05:22] <onlylove1> yunfan: 你是不是少数了个0
[05:25] <onlylove1> 奇怪……确实是几十……为啥我哪天看的是几百……
[05:25] <onlylove1> 不行，回去看看history去
[05:26] <yunfan> onlylove1: 我说的是只是toolchain 你下的包含那些乱七八糟的lib sample之类的吧
[05:28] <onlylove1> yunfan: 不是，就是刚那个网站，然后，我还没下里面的东西，就是打开看了下
[05:28] <onlylove1> 我记得studio是100+MB
[05:30] <onlylove1> yunfan: 我知道为啥了，我刚才计算器算错了
[05:30] <onlylove1> yunfan: 把byte当bit处理了
[05:30] <onlylove1> yunfan: linux版的，每个都是300M左右
[05:31] <onlylove1> yunfan: 然后习惯性的多除以8
[05:37] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 15.10升级16.04出错，一直卡在登录窗口 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473779 原本是15.04的，通过apt-get upgrade升级以后，变成16.04以后，输入密码还是会回到登录界面 百度的Xession那个不起作用，lightdm提起如下 failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart 纯小白，求
[05:37] <^k^> ─> 指教怎么办？ 啊，对了，pstree显示systemd zz: CrossRun — 2015-11-09 13:31
[05:41] <onlylove_> ubuntu的循环登陆实在是个不小的坑，每次都有人提
[05:42] <onlylove_> 对此，我只能说，我真的不知道……我就是因为循环登陆这破事弃用ubuntu的
[05:45] <iMadper> 我记得删除一个错误的文件就行了...
[05:46] <onlylove_> 都那么说，但是很多人删了那文件也不顶用
[05:46] <iMadper> onlylove1: 可能问题的原因是多样的
[05:46] <onlylove_> 所以那方法对不对……也没人知道
[05:47] <onlylove_> 反正跨版升级就有很大概率出，一，黑屏，就是显卡驱动挂掉，2 循环登陆
[05:48] <onlylove1> 自从换回debian，世界顿时清静了
[05:50] <^k^> nyfair: 拜老司机
[06:00] <asdf2> :-D
[06:07] <yunfan> onlylove1: 你除以8 那应该更小啊
[06:10] <^k^> 新 Arch发行版 • Arch怎样降级Kernel http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473780 想安装一个低版本的kernel，怎么做？ zz: aaron74316 — 2015-11-09 13:45
[06:11] <asdf2> 等大神吧
[06:16] <onlylove1> 每次都要看看client是不是lag了，一lag就要等260+秒
[06:19] <asdf2> 鸟哥的私房菜不错
[06:22] <FranX> 不觉得太简单了么
[06:22] <asdf2> 啥东西
[06:23] <nyfair> 在这个频道说私房菜就跟跑到c社区说谭浩强一样
[06:24] <nyfair> 太low
[06:25] <onlylove1> nyfair: 其实私房菜里面有些东西我还真不会
[06:26] <tryit> asdf2, 是不错
[06:26] <tryit> asdf2, 非常好的书
[06:26] <asdf2> 我不认为这频道都是高手
[06:26] <asdf2> 也有新手
[06:26] <asdf2> 有就介绍，不妨也是好事
[06:26] <nyfair> onlylove1: 不会就不会呗，就跟你不知道人民广场有多少厕所一样，不知道就不知道呗。把这种逗逼知识当宝才有问题
[06:27] <tryit> asdf2, 那本书很系统，入门用非常好，看起来的感觉就像 王爽的《汇编语言》
[06:28] <nyfair> onlylove1: 你看我几年没碰linux了，不是照样扯linux么
[06:30] <asdf2> tryit: 有点似
[06:34] <tryit> asdf2, 这套书早出几年，我当年就会少走好多弯路 :)
[06:35] <asdf2> 我不是计算机，不过我是在这书学的linux系统知识
[06:36] <onlylove_> 系统学linux不应该是lfs手册么
[06:37] <asdf2> 之前不知道呀
[07:18] <nyfair> 麻痹，现在kde怎么搞得比win10和水果还花哨，大红大紫的好粗俗
[07:19] <nyfair> 特么背景都是大红大紫的，然后又很geek的主题配色都是黑白风
[07:19] <nyfair> 这他妈丑死了
[07:25] <onlylove1> 为啥我习惯sudo vim /etc/hosts，windows却不习惯用管理员打开记事本，然后编辑hosts文件
[07:29] <nyfair> onlylove1: 装archwindows，vim /etc/hosts 直接改，sudo都不用
[07:29] <nyfair> onlylove1: 其实notepad /etc/hosts也行
[07:30] <onlylove> nyfair: ms windows不地道啊，hosts藏的那么深
[07:30] <onlylove> weechat又lag了
[07:30] <onlylove> 我恨这网络
[07:31] <wbchn> nyfair: 直接notepad没管理员权限改不了的，得先attrib 把权限去了。
[07:33] <onlylove> 打开编辑是没问题的，但是保存的时候就变另存为了
[07:34] <rothsdad> 上课无聊中..zzzz
[07:35] <onlylove1> 报告老师，有人上课聊天，还打瞌睡
[07:37] * rothsdad knock onlylove1
[07:38] <nyfair> onlylove: administrator权限运行archwindows不就行了
[07:42] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • Ubuntu 15.10能创建还原点吗？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473781 Ubuntu 15.10能创建还原点吗？类似虚拟机的快照，windows的 还原点？ Ubuntu 有类似的功能吗？ zz: CasanovaLee — 2015-11-09 15:41
[07:46] <onlylove> 学校组织学生看反邪教宣传片，期间要求不得说话，不得离开，不得请假，不准上厕所……宣传片里说：邪教通常会把许多人关到一个黑屋子里，然后反复宣传其观点，语言大多很煽动缺乏理性，并且必须遵守讲课纪律，甚至不准上厕所……
[07:50] <onlylove_> 不知不觉才发现，立冬已经过去了QAQ
[07:53] <onlylove_> 运维的日常。一切正常：我们花钱请你来干啥？ 系统异常：我们花钱请你来干啥？所以这工作不能干。
[07:54] <ulot0> 真惨
[07:54] <ulot0> 做运维真惨
[07:54] <ulot0> 左右不是人嘛
[07:57] <rothsdad> 做安全也有同感
[07:58] * nyfair 做黄油也有同感
[08:01] * gebjgd 做鸡的也有同感
[08:03] <Niac> 做人 也是
[08:03] <ulot0> 做人的也有同感
[08:04] <pity> onlylove_: 总是被安排给别人擦屁股，屎都流出来了，擦得好无奈……
[08:04] <gebjgd> pity, 要跪舔
[08:04] <gebjgd> pity, 这样自己心里才舒服
[08:05] <ulot0> 这就是生活吗
[08:05] <gebjgd> pity, 要先享受被生活强奸 才能去强奸生活
[08:08] <pity> gebjgd: 刚我描述得够形象了，你又补了个跪舔，画面即视感太强了
[08:08] <gebjgd> pity, 你很有脑补的天分
[08:09] <onlylove1> pity: php大牛好
[08:11] <onlylove1> http://www.solidot.org/story?sid=46094
[08:11] <ubrl> ⇪ t: Solidot | 大众工程师承认操纵了尾气排放数据
[08:14] <gebjgd> onlylove1, 这不是很早的旧闻了吗
[08:15] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 不，之前是柴油车，后来又有了汽油车，再然后就现在这样了
[08:16] <gebjgd> onlylove1, 汽油车没有问题
[08:18] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 你需要更新了，汽油车也被曝出有问题
[08:19] <gebjgd> onlylove1, 啥问题？
[08:19] <gebjgd> onlylove1, 不就是二氧化碳么
[08:20] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 就是二氧化碳啊
[08:21] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 你不是说汽油车没问题么
[08:21] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 柴油车没过多久，汽油车也被发现排放造假
[08:21] <gebjgd> onlylove1, 不开车 就没有二氧化碳了
[08:21] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 你要用电
[08:21] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 烧煤，会有二氧化碳
[08:22] <gebjgd> onlylove1, 活着就要有二氧化碳
[08:22] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 水电，破坏生态环境
[08:22] <pity> onlylove1: ....
[08:22] <gebjgd> onlylove1, 都死了 还是有
[08:22] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 核电，看看福岛那档子事
[08:22] <gebjgd> onlylove1, 算了 哪有垬破坏环境厉害
[08:23] <onlylove1> gebjgd: 人现在执政啊，有啥办法
[08:25] <iIlL10Oo> 水电只是改变自然，没破坏
[08:28] <alvin_rxg> 哎呀呀，这儿好精彩
[08:28] <onlylove1> iIlL10Oo: 你自己看胭脂鱼什么的，物种都消失了，还没破坏呢
[08:29] <onlylove1> iIlL10Oo: 哦，不是胭脂鱼，忘了啥鱼了，江豚？
[08:29] <onlylove1> 原来物种灭绝不算破坏生态，叫改变生态
[08:31] <yunfan> 我草了
[08:32] <yunfan> 我那个香港主机突然要我输入密码登陆了 我明明设置了公钥的
[08:32] <onlylove1> 配置被改了？
[08:32] <onlylove1> 还是你的私钥丢了
[08:32] <lainme> 被reseller坑了？
[08:33] <yunfan> 没有被改 两边都没变动 我怀疑是有中间人在搞我
[08:35] <nyfair> kde汉化都是哪些傻逼做的
[08:35] <onlylove1> 大概他找错目标了，把ip 错写成你的了
[08:35] <nyfair> kate凭什么中文名叫高级文本编辑器
[08:35] <nyfair> 这高级两字哪里来的
[08:36] <onlylove> 大概因为能编辑富文本，还支持语法高亮？可是gedit也有这功能啊
[08:38] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • nslookup命令用法？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473782 1.终端输入： nslookup www. http://zhihu.com ，与nslookup http://zhihu.com 。（图1） 为什么显示IP地址不同？ 2.浏览器输入：61.240.150.11 （图2） 打不开知乎网站。 这个IP地址是：河北省衡水市 腾讯计算机系
[08:38] <onlylove> test
[08:38] <ubrl> onlylove:点点点. 16:35
[08:38] <nyfair> 听说知乎被企鹅收购了？
[08:38] <yunfan> onlylove: 显然是自动
[08:38] <yunfan> nyfair: 搜狐占了点股份
[08:41] <^k^> 新 系统安装和升级 • 升级后15.10后无法正常进入系统 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473783 小弟我手一抖把14.04 升级了15.10 升级过程中有些报错，无可奈何就跳过了，1.结果重启后无法进入系统，一直是进入系统前的界面，2.进入高级选项中的upstart，但是进入后的每一个操作都
[08:41] <^k^> ─> 要输入密码，无法关机，必须强制关机3.进入recovery模式，显示如下不动： Systemd[1]: /etc/m …
[08:43] <onlylove_> nyfair: 收购知乎对企鹅有啥好处？
[08:44] <nyfair> onlylove_: 对抗百度知道更有逼格
[08:46] * onlylove_ 在考虑要不要花钱买纪念碑谷正版
[08:46] <nyfair> 求送fallout4
[08:46] <rothsdad_> test
[08:46] <rothsdad_> BAT哪家对linux更友好 A？
[08:46] <ubrl> rothsdad_:点点点. 16:44
[08:48] <rothsdad_> witcher3还木有，求送
[08:49] <nyfair> 玩witcher3还不如玩0sex
[08:49] <nyfair> 干嘛假正经
[08:49] <nyfair> 要么就昆特牌online
[08:53] <FranX> rothsdad_: ali啊
[08:53] <FranX> rothsdad_: 阿里开源搞的很好啊
[09:01] <alvin_rxg> 好像还行？ http://www.instant-gaming.com/en/755-buy-key-steam-fallout-4/
[09:01] <ubrl> alvin_rxg: ⇪ Buy Fallout 4 Steam
[09:06] <rothsdad_> 对了，问个困扰很久的问题：gentoo下xterm用monaco和microhei字体，上面那个箭头显示不了。是不是字体不全的原因？
[09:10] <tryit> rothsdad_, 用了gentoo好多年，不用也好几年了……
[09:12] <rothsdad_> 字体特殊符号显示不全，╮(╯▽╰)╭，不完美啊不完美。。
[09:13] * rothsdad_ 残念~
[09:15] <onlylove> vickycq-a20: 换新玩具了？
[09:19] <nyfair> 62欧还是打折的，这有病吧
[09:19] <nyfair> 199rmb
[09:25] <^k^> 新 西北校区 • 有西安学生的来集合下，大家互相认识一下咯 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473784 想了解下西安现在学这个的多吗？大家来认识一下咯 zz: 小白爱好者 — 2015-11-09 17:11
[09:29] <vickycq-a20> onlylove: 山寨全志机顶盒刷了Debian，参考的LinuxTOY
[09:35] <gebjgd> vickycq-a20, 为什么要刷
[09:38] <ulot0> 据说机顶盒的网络很好入侵
[09:40] <alvin_rxg> 机顶盒直接连接 wan ？
[09:43] <ulot0> 机顶盒不接WAN，但机顶盒本来就处于一个大内网下
[09:46] <alvin_rxg> 哦，就是机顶盒是直接和运营商连接的。。
[09:46] <ulot0> http://www.evil0x.com/posts/1810.html 这里有教程
[09:46] <ubrl> ulot0: ⇪ 小型APT之看我如何入侵电视 | 邪恶十六进制
[09:49] <yunfan> onlylove: 搞定 莫名其妙的badowern
[09:50] <yunfan> ulot0: 你去研究下光电强制推那个 TVOS
[09:50] <ulot0> yunfan, 没听说过TVOS
[09:54] <yunfan> ulot0: 这都没听说过 诶
[09:54] <yunfan> 你发的那个 走他们的线路上网都可以了
[09:55] <ulot0> yunfan, 刚才你说了我去搜了一下，是TV的操作系统
[09:56] <yunfan> 而且是强制标准
[09:56] <yunfan> 这个找个漏洞 那就千万上亿设备任你傲游了
[09:56] <vickycq-a20> gebjgd: 无聊瞎搞
[09:59] <gebjgd> vickycq-a20, 单疼
[09:59] <gebjgd> vickycq-a20, 有没有好的android 机顶盒子推荐？
[10:00] <ulot0> yunfan, 台湾新北市的浮洲车站常有一只哈士奇出没，特别会在便利店外打劫路人、骗吃骗喝。
[10:00] <ulot0> 据台湾东森新闻云11月6日报道，爱狗的廖心筠日前经过，发现体态有点丰硕的它，在便利店门口对一名路过的阿伯疯狂大叫，逼他走进店里，接着店员熟练拿出热狗说“它要这个啦！”阿伯只好认命结帐，等它得到热狗也吃完后，才开心小跑步离开。
[10:01] <vickycq> gebjgd, 是很蛋疼，没甚用处
[10:02] <vickycq> gebjgd, 我不看电视，山寨盒子是别人淘汰不要的
[10:03] <ulot0> 电视不是在酒店才看的吗？平时不看
[10:58] <^k^> 新 初学者园地 - 15.10 • Ubuntu 频繁掉线问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473785 我在电脑上安装了双系统,在windows下wifi和Ethernet正常工作,但是到了Ubuntu系统在部分情况下,wifi和有线都连接不上网络,查了网卡驱动也没问题感觉 无线网卡型号是Ralink corp RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R 驱动
[10:58] <^k^> ─> 是rt2800pci,网上查了很多方法都无效,请问有没大神能帮帮忙 zz: lvhao7896 — 2015-11-09 18:17
[12:21] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS • g77安装 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473787 刚开始用ubuntu，发现系统不带g77编译器，网上找了各种办法也没用个，不知道怎样安装呢？intel那个全套的编译器不知道可以解决么？求大神指导下，专业软件需要用到，一直编译不成功 zz: dandao111 — 2015-11-09 20:16
[12:24] <^k^> 新 服务器维护和硬件相关 • nslookup命令参数？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473788 命令参数详细用法，有这方面中文资料么？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-09 20:23
[12:45] <onlylove> 那个马甲君一直不停的发man一下就可以知道答案的帖子，几个意思！
[12:46] <vickycq> 他说话很有特点
[12:46] <vickycq> 滥用逗号。
[12:46] <onlylove> 我要砍号去！
[12:51] <ulot0> 支持，鼓励
[12:54] <vickycq> ulot0, 那个马甲系列的兴趣倒是和你很接近
[12:55] <vickycq> 都喜欢搞一些网络安全方面的
[12:55] <vickycq> 你要不要去回答他的问题
[12:55] <ulot0> vickycq, 我回答了
[12:59] <ulot0> vickycq, 没看到那人很多贴子，就回答了一个
[13:02] <ulot0> 论坛怎么不考虑建个微信群啊？
[13:04] <onlylove> 建那破东西做啥
[13:09] <longlongago> hi all
[13:09] <ubrl> longlongago:点点点. 21:06
[13:09] <ulot0> 抢红包啊
[13:09] <longlongago> CyrusYzGTt: hi long time no see
[13:10] <CyrusYzGTt> longlongago§ ..额，你谁？
[13:10] <longlongago> CyrusYzGTt: 我就是我呀
[13:10] <ulot0> 一个很长很长的人
[13:10] <longlongago> CyrusYzGTt: 你不是早在2012.12.25就挂了吗
[13:10] <CyrusYzGTt> longlongago§ ..我不认识 longlongago 这个nick的人
[13:10] <CyrusYzGTt> longlongago§ 平行世界发生了，
[13:11] <longlongago> CyrusYzGTt: 你爸给你生活费了吗
[13:11] <longlongago> CyrusYzGTt: 你姐姐嫁出去了吗
[13:11] <CyrusYzGTt> longlongago§ 你的信息 too old ..不作答
[13:11] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[13:11] <CyrusYzGTt> longlongago§ 还有你这个 nick 我不认识
[13:13] <longlongago> ...
[13:13] <onlylove> 突然想起一个人来，不过应该不是他
[13:14] <longlongago> gebjgd: 为啥说arch野鸡呀，你以前不也arch吗
[13:14] <longlongago> ubuntu才野鸡
[13:14] <gebjgd> longlongago, 因为就是野鸡发行版
[13:14] <gebjgd> longlongago, ubuntu有公司支持啊
[13:15] <longlongago> 不过最近arch的intel显卡驱动更新的貌似出问题了，会让屏幕出现闪烁彩纹，不过回滚下就好了
[13:15] <gebjgd> longlongago, debian有社区
[13:15] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 我换debian 8.2 amd64 了
[13:15] <longlongago> gebjgd: arch也有社区呀。。。
[13:15] <longlongago> CyrusYzGTt: 你不当rh的小白鼠了？
[13:15] <gebjgd> longlongago, 社区太小
[13:16] <gebjgd> longlongago, arch的未来就是debian的今天
[13:16] <longlongago> 那个渣发行版连分个区都不行， --> fedora
[13:16] <gebjgd> longlongago, 谁说不能分区
[13:16] <gebjgd> longlongago, 你个小白
[13:16] <CyrusYzGTt> longlongago§ 本人已老，需要稳定，不折腾
[13:16] <longlongago> gebjgd: 分区出现问题，我遇到过
[13:16] <gebjgd> longlongago, 早上才装了fedora 23
[13:16] <gebjgd> longlongago, 随便分区
[13:17] <longlongago> gebjgd: CyrusYzGTt 据说debian被systemd上了
[13:17] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 我用live USB 试用过 f23 x86_64
[13:17] <gebjgd> longlongago, 这年头不用systemd不可能
[13:17] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 我的测试机器就在跑fedora 23
[13:17] <CyrusYzGTt> longlongago§ 嗯，在f21 f22习惯了
[13:18] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 哦，
[13:18] <longlongago> gebjgd: 最近每次关机时,systemd都要花费1分30秒说有用户程序没结束，每次关个鸡巴还得得90秒，艹
[13:18] <onlylove> gebjgd: gentoo那群人没有systemd一样好好的
[13:18] <longlongago> 还得我手动killall -u xxx然后才能poweroff正常关机
[13:18] <onlylove> gebjgd: 还有BSD那帮人
[13:18] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 测试前 dd if=f23-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1MB
[13:18] <vickycq> 这个问题太烦人了
[13:19] <vickycq> 每次又有 mysterious stop job
[13:19] <gebjgd> onlylove, systemd是趋势 就像mac的launchdaemon
[13:19] <onlylove> 你们都什么程序啊
[13:19] <longlongago> vickycq 你也遇到了？
[13:19] <onlylove> gebjgd: 趋势毛，越来越渣么，好吧，这也算趋势
[13:19] <vickycq> 不过有些情况下 是我忘了卸载远程文件系统
[13:19] <longlongago> onlylove: 就正常程序呀
[13:20] <longlongago> vickycq 现在我每次poweroff前都得killall下， 真tmd坑爹
[13:20] <CyrusYzGTt> 趋势是 linux 封闭化
[13:20] <CyrusYzGTt> halt -p
[13:20] <onlylove> 所以你们扔掉systemd不就完事了
[13:20] <vickycq> 一旦已经进入等待90秒的状态，有没有办法迅速结束
[13:20] <longlongago> 社区强制的呀。。。
[13:21] <longlongago> 没法扔，总不能自己去搞发行版吧 太恶心
[13:21] <CyrusYzGTt> LFS
[13:21] <Freebuilder> 配置 pa 怎么是改 /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/* 的，更新岂不覆盖掉了
[13:21] <longlongago> vickycq 手动电源键
[13:21] <vickycq> 呵呵呵
[13:22] <onlylove> gentoo，还有那个扔掉systemd的debian分支，还有，debian现在还可以用sysvinit替换systemd的
[13:22] <Freebuilder> systemd 早晚要完蛋的
[13:22] <longlongago> 总结就是systemd就一大傻x
[13:22] <vickycq> debian不想要systemd可用 devuan
[13:22] <longlongago> 各种更新起不来就是systemd
[13:22] <CyrusYzGTt> 傻瓜化
[13:22] <longlongago> 我arch 5次更新， 3次起不来因为systemd
[13:23] <longlongago> onlylove: 那udevd怎么办？
[13:23] <CyrusYzGTt> 对了，我想问问 debian 多久 更新一次比较好，，
[13:23] <onlylove> Freebuilder: 你是不是把alsa卸载了换ossv4，如果实在不想要pulseaudio
[13:24] <longlongago> onlylove: debian如果上了systemd, systemd就干了udev, 如果卸载了systemd, 那udev怎么办
[13:24] <CyrusYzGTt> 只用 jessie jessie-updates
[13:24] <Freebuilder> onlylove, 我装了 pa
[13:24] <longlongago> 还有login
[13:24] <onlylove> longlongago: 装回来，蠢
[13:24] <^k^> 取新帖 timeout
[13:25] <onlylove> longlongago: devuan里面有个guide教你怎么搞掉systemd
[13:25] <Freebuilder> longlongago, 用 debian 你还考虑 udev 那些？
[13:25] <vickycq> CyrusYzGTt, jessie 基本没有更新的
[13:25] <CyrusYzGTt> vickycq§ 习惯了 fedora ,,
[13:25] <longlongago> Freebuilder: 为啥不考虑。。。
[13:25] <Freebuilder> longlongago, deb 最大的好处，分包，可以用 libudev 不用 systemd。
[13:25] <CyrusYzGTt> vickycq§ 所以问问 debian
[13:25] <longlongago> Freebuilder: 有些设备就得用udev查设备名呀
[13:25] <onlylove> 多久更新一次？如果没重大安全漏洞，像heart bleed那样的，想起了就更新，想不起就不管
[13:26] <Freebuilder> longlongago, libudev 和 systemd 在不同的包里面
[13:26] <onlylove> longlongago: libudev就是udev的功能
[13:26] <vickycq> 曝出安全漏洞时更新即可
[13:26] <CyrusYzGTt> vickycq§ 不过可惜 debian 没有类似 dnf downgrade foo 这个命令
[13:26] <longlongago> Freebuilder: onlylove soga
[13:26] <CyrusYzGTt> vickycq§ ok
[13:27] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 因为不需要
[13:27] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, fedora升级会挂 debian不会
[13:27] <asdf2> 好嗨今天
[13:27] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 我是因为之前默认启用了 jessie-backports 源，想降级某些关键包
[13:28] <longlongago> 今天大盘在涨，我选的3只股都tmd在跌，艹
[13:28] <longlongago> 包子出去玩也不能止爹呀
[13:28] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ 上个星期用 jessie-backports 升级 libreoffice 导致用不了，，
[13:28] <gebjgd> CyrusYzGTt, 删了backports的包就行了
[13:29] <CyrusYzGTt> 最后只能删除，在安装 jessie
[13:29] <longlongago> gebjgd: CyrusYzGTt debian还有这种备份源可以回滚？
[13:29] <vickycq> libreoffice 5 用 libstdc++6 了吧
[13:29] <CyrusYzGTt> gebjgd§ ,,不过，，因为有 300+ 的包升级 backports ,,所以现在不知道怎么办
[13:30] <CyrusYzGTt> longlongago§ ,,不是，我是关闭 jessie-backports 用 jessie-updates
[13:31] <longlongago> 什么时候arch也能有回滚源就好了，
[13:31] <longlongago> 不小心滚死了还能滚回去
[13:31] <vickycq> longlongago, Arch有啊
[13:31] <vickycq> Arch Linux Archive
[13:31] <longlongago> vickycq 哪有
[13:32] <longlongago> vickycq 个别用户自己搭建的？
[13:32] <vickycq> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive
[13:32] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Arch Linux Archive - ArchWiki
[13:32] <longlongago> vickycq 社区支持的回滚源有？ 我到是用过用户自己搭建的回滚源
[13:32] <vickycq> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Downgrading_packages
[13:32] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Downgrading packages - ArchWiki
[13:33] <vickycq> http://ala.seblu.net/repos/
[13:33] <ubrl> vickycq: ⇪ Index of /repos/
[13:33] <vickycq> 具体我就不懂了
[13:33] <vickycq> 但看wiki貌似可以用
[13:34] <vickycq> 整系统回滚：https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive#How_to_restore_all_my_packages_at_a_specific_date
[13:34] <ubrl> ⇪ f: Arch Linux Archive - ArchWiki
[13:34] <vickycq> 不清楚 是不是这个意思
[13:35] <Freebuilder> longlongago, arch 党不都用 btrfs 快照了吗？
[13:36] <longlongago> vickycq 原来还真有，我好长时间没关注过这些了
[13:36] <vickycq-a20> 坑爹啊，git clone 只有 20 KiB/s，一共要下载近2G
[13:37] <longlongago> Freebuilder: 不搞那么高级的文件系统。
[13:37] <longlongago> vickycq-a20: 你clone哪个？
[13:37] <CyrusYzGTt> 目前只用ext4
[13:38] <longlongago> CyrusYzGTt: ext4+10086
[13:38] <vickycq-a20> longlongago: linux-sunxi
[13:39] <longlongago> 这是啥。。。
[13:39] <longlongago> 日西？
[13:39] <vickycq-a20> 全志系列SoC的内核
[13:40] <vickycq-a20> 孙希
[13:40] <vickycq-a20> - -!
[13:42] <^k^> 新 影音多媒体 • pulseaudio 配置问题 http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473789 Code: # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- vi /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-output.conf #{ [Element Hardware Master] switch = mute volume = ignore [Element Master] switch = mute volume = ignore #} # ----------
[13:42] <^k^> ─> ------------------------------------------------------------------ vi /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-o …
[13:49] <onlylove> pulseaudio赶紧死吧
[13:49] <onlylove> systemd赶紧死吧
[13:49] <CyrusYzGTt> alsa
[13:49] <CyrusYzGTt> jack
[13:49] <onlylove> 开发OSS那个公司也死掉吧，省的我总是有奢望
[13:50] <Freebuilder> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=165&t=400067&p=2921795
[13:50] <ubrl> ⇪ t: pulseaudio 发疯了？ - 查看主题 • Ubuntu中文论坛 zz: 自由建客
[13:50] <Freebuilder> XD
[14:00] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu衍生版制作 • live usb 流畅地运行，与什么有关？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473790 安装在U盘，或TF卡上的live usb！ 流畅不卡地运行，与什么有关？ 内存？ U盘，或TF卡容量？ 其它？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-09 21:58
[14:08] <gebjgd> Freebuilder, 你什么问题
[14:08] <Freebuilder> gebjgd, 音量联动
[14:08] <gebjgd> Freebuilder, 没怎么注意过
[14:08] <gebjgd> Freebuilder, 一直用的挺好
[14:08] <Freebuilder> gebjgd, 好屁，联动不同步，有落差，声音噗哧噗哧
[14:08] <gebjgd> Freebuilder, 没有遇到过
[14:08] <Freebuilder> gebjgd, http://blog.csdn.net/gengye304/article/details/8629616
[14:08] <ubrl> ⇪ t: 解决PulseAudio的爆音问题 – 大幅提高Ubuntu音质 - gengye304的专栏 - 博客频道 - CSDN.NET
[14:08] <Freebuilder> gebjgd, 但是改这配置已经无效了
[14:08] <gebjgd> Freebuilder, 我这里没有爆音问题
[14:08] <vickycq-a20> Freebuilder: 我这里没有爆音问题
[14:23] <onlylove> 这片文章简直就是扯淡，alsa怎么可能比oss先进！
[14:25] <onlylove> oss个倒霉催的，不过是因为自己玩闭源，社区版发布的晚了，等发出来的时候alsa成气候了而已
[14:26] <onlylove> oss直接支持软混音，哪里像alsa，还要esd或者pulseaudio
[14:29] <kkkware> ?
[14:37] <Freebuilder> jackd 要是带音量控制就好了
[14:44] <kkkware> ÔõôƵµÀÀï /ignor joins parts quits ²»ÐÐÄØ Ö±½Óignor all
[14:44] <^k^> kkkware say: 怎么频道里 /ignor joins parts quits 不行呢 直接ignor all in GB2312 ? We use UTF-8 !
[14:44] <kkkware> ingore
[14:50] <^k^> 新 Ubuntu衍生版制作 • live usb 流畅地运行，与什么有关？ http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?t=473790 用dd命令，安装在硬盘，U盘，或TF卡上的live usb！ 流畅不卡地运行，与什么有关？ 内存？ 硬盘，U盘，或TF卡容量？ 其它？ zz: Qubun — 2015-11-09 21:58
[14:52] <yunfan> onlylove: 去图书馆可以拍照不
[14:52] <onlylove> yunfan: 偷着可以吧……别太明目张胆
[14:53] <yunfan> onlylove: 我就想知道政策上怎样的 偷着拍我还要问你么
[14:53] <onlylove> yunfan: 政策真不知道
[14:53] <onlylove> yunfan: 不过一般的都会阻止吧
[14:54] <Freebuilder> 不能拍
[14:56] <onlylove> 我看图书馆的那阵子，手机最高320万像素，拍出来根本不能看
[14:56] <vickycq-a20> 理论上不可以
[14:56] <vickycq-a20> 实际上
[14:59] <gebjgd> yunfan, 拍什么照片？
[15:00] <gebjgd> yunfan, 拍裸照么
[15:03] <yunfan> gebjgd: 拍他书啊
[15:04] <yunfan> 其实这个政策逻辑上有点问题 图书馆不都提供复印么
[15:21] <Freebuilder> 手拍书效果不好
[15:21] <Freebuilder> 手拿着拍书效果不好
[16:20] <yunfan> 又不是去盗版
[19:14] <gebjgd> alvin_rxg, 又在抽游戏？
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[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[09:51] <rpadovani> popey, it's time for a calculator release \o/ here a changelog from the last update: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13207972/
[09:51] <popey> \i.
[09:51] <popey> I have it on my to-do list for today \o/
[09:52] <popey> thanks for the changelog, I'll get on it this morning
[09:52] <rpadovani> yeah :)
[10:06] <popey> rpadovani, you have mail :)
[10:07] <rpadovani> :-)
[11:37] <dubstar_041> when i try and build a qmake project with show build disabled the .desktop file is being deleted. anyone know why this would happen.
[11:37] <dubstar_041> *shadow build
[11:53] <dubstar_041> can anyone advice on how to use Quick plugins?
[12:07] <Mirv> is there a way to modify existing click's apparmor profile? I did it low-level, unpacking the click, modifying and repacking it :)
[12:20] <popey> Mirv, get the source and build it properly?
[12:25] <Mirv> popey: right, so that probably is the alternative. this ar magic seemed to work too.
[12:26] <popey> heh
[12:26] <popey> I have bodged like that too in the past
[12:33] <bzoltan_> popey: dholbach: mhall119: Guys, i am about to release the new IDE to the SDK PPA. But before that I would like you to take a final look at it in the Dev Tools PPA and give me a thumbs up :)
[12:34] <popey> does it break click chroots?
[12:34] <popey> if so I'm not installing it :)
[12:34] <popey> also, cmake
[12:58] <Mirv> it obviously fixes everything and regresses nowhere... unless you'll find a BUG!
[13:33] <mzanetti> popey, ping
[13:33] <popey> mzanetti, pong
[13:34] <mzanetti> hey popey :)
[13:34] <mzanetti> what's the status on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/reminders-app/+bug/1496084
[13:34] * popey looks
[13:34] <mzanetti> didn't we figure it was a weird build-time issue with your chroot?
[13:40] <popey> mzanetti, yeah, i can no longer reproduce it with the click on my device (0.5.490)
[13:41] <mzanetti> popey, ok. lets close it then, ok?
[13:41] <popey> iirc I re-uploaded the click and davmor2 re-tested, so yes, I think this bug is no longer an issue
[13:41] <popey> ya
[13:42] <popey> hm, i thought we re-requested testing, but it's showing "QA Failed"
[13:42] <popey> https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/342
[13:42] * popey marks QA Needed
[13:42] <popey> thanks mzanetti
[13:48] <davmor2> popey: the qa failed is there so when you have set it all back up/ fixed any issues you set it back to qa needed and then it re-triggers a new card
[13:48] <popey> done :)
[14:09] <davmor2> popey: which ticket it is it's not showing up on the trello board
[14:09] <davmor2> popey: nevermind seen it
[14:09] <popey> k
[14:10] <davmor2> popey: needs setting to ready for qa not qa required that might be why
[14:12] <popey> doh
[14:13] <popey> sorry, I'll get the hang of citrain one day
[14:13] <popey> then it'll get replaced
[14:33] <davmor2> popey: yeah now we have a new ticket :)
[14:52] <popey> davmor2, yay
[17:51] <popey> mzanetti, for bug 1514519 ..
[17:51] <popey> oh, never mind, you replied again :)
[18:12] <Forester> hi. I downloaded LibreOffice 1:5.0.3~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty2 and this package has an issues with font size.
[18:13] <Forester> Is this place for reporting an issue with LibreOffice?
[18:24] <mzanetti> Forester, https://bugs.launchpad.net/~libreoffice
[18:25] <mzanetti> sorry, wrong link
[18:25] <mzanetti> searching for the correct one
[18:26] <mzanetti> Forester, this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice
[18:27] <Forester> Thank you
[18:31] <rpadovani> do someone of you have issues with the last gallery version (the one released a couple of hours ago)?
[18:31] <rpadovani> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gallery-app/+bug/1514530
[18:42] <sverzegnassi> rpadovani: same here on BQ E5
[18:45] <rpadovani> bfiller, artmello maybe you should revert the last updaet ^^
[18:45] <rpadovani> I wonder how is possible it passed QA review...
[18:51] <bfiller> rpadovani: hmn, not seeing that
[18:51] <bfiller> rpadovani: mind pasting your log
[18:52] <artmello> rpadovani: hmm, which version of ui-toolkit do you have?
[18:53] <rpadovani> bfiller, artmello I've the same log of sverzegnassi (attached in the bug) - mx4 with last ota
[18:53] <rpadovani> confirmed on another phone by an italian user on a forum
[18:54] <rpadovani> bfiller, artmello the problem is when you click on a photo - previews are good, but you cant see it fullscreen
[18:54] <bfiller> rpadovani: you running stable or rc-proposed
[18:54] <bfiller> ?
[18:54] <rpadovani> bfiller, stable
[18:56] <bfiller> rpadovani: we'll get it sorted, thanks for reporting
[18:56] <rpadovani> thanks, keep up the good work :-)
[19:00] <davmor2> bfiller: D'oh you know why this is the 1.3 version which isn't available on stable right
[19:01] <bfiller> davmor2: 1.3 is available on stable
[19:01] <bfiller> so not sure what's going on
[19:01] <bfiller> perhaps we're using an api that is not though
[19:01] <davmor2> bfiller: works fine on rc-proposed, I wonder if there was new stuff added to 1.3
[19:01] <bfiller> davmor2: I bet there was
[19:18] <popey> yeah, probably should have bumped framework to 15.04.1 maybe?
[19:19] <mcphail> Any appdevs around from the SDK team? I think the QML/QMake template might be broken. I can't get it to make a .click as it can't seem to find the .desktop file
[19:45] <popey> rpadovani, http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2015/11/2015-11-09-050001/com.ubuntu.gallery_2.9.1.1238_armhf.click if you want to go backwards, to get back to a working gallery.
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[04:37] <dupingping> hi, developers, please look here, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1514288
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[09:23] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: I now have access to 1SS, so I'm ready for you to give me somewhere to play with powerpc cloud images. :)
[09:39] <dupingping> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1514288
[09:48] <LocutusOfBorg1> mdeslaur, how do you feel about a sync of tar?
[09:48] <LocutusOfBorg1> after dinstall of course
[11:09] <alex__> hello what is the right irc channel to ask about building unity?
[11:13] <brendand> alex__, here is fine
[11:13] <brendand> alex__, but ask your question in as much detail as possible rather than asking to ask
[11:14] <brendand> alex__, like 'i get this <pastebin> failure when building unity from lp:unity on <distro>'
[11:15] <alex__> ok thanks. I have to build some parts of unity because we in gnustep are working to integrate gnustep apps as better as we can. So with this command "make panel" the panel got compilet but at launch time I got
[11:16] <alex__> ERROR 2015-11-09 12:15:44 nux.gltexture.resource.manager GLTextureResourceManager.cpp:54 Invalid target, impossible to generate a new texture. Impossible to generate a pixbuf: Failed to open file '/home/alex/test_unity/share/unity/icons/dash_noise.png': File o directory not found and similar errors
[11:17] <alex__> also, how to install compiled stuff in a customized directory? following the HACKING file seems to not work
[11:21] <alex__> -- Up-to-date: /home/alex/test_unity/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/unity.mo
[11:21] <alex__> -- Installing: /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity.gschema.xml
[11:21] <alex__> CMake Error at cmake_install.cmake:168 (file):
[11:21] <alex__> file INSTALL cannot copy file
[11:21] <alex__> "/home/alex/Scaricati/unity-7.3.3/com.canonical.Unity.gschema.xml" to
[11:21] <alex__> "/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity.gschema.xml".
[11:23] <alex__> The distro is Uubntu 15.10 and I'm using the released source code of unity 7.3.3, the tarball on launchpad
[11:23] <brendand> alex__, you did 'mkdir build; cd build; CMAKE -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/staging ../'?
[11:23] <alex__> yes, but insread of staging I used test_unity
[11:23] <brendand> bleurgh, and cmake should be lowercase
[11:24] <alex__> and yes I used a lowercase cmake command
[11:24] <brendand> alex__, what gave you the error? make or cmake?
[11:24] <brendand> alex__, did you do apt-get build-dep unity?
[11:25] <alex__> yes to build-dep, I don't have error while buidling panel, but running it. The build has success
[11:26] <alex__> brendand, this is the command I run cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/test_unity ../
[11:27] <alex__> then, make -j8 has success
[11:27] <alex__> make -j8 panel sorry
[11:29] <alex__> brendand, just rebuilt
[11:29] <alex__> Linking CXX static library libunity-shared-standalone.a
[11:29] <alex__> [100%] Built target unity-shared-standalone
[11:29] <alex__> Linking CXX static library libpanel-lib.a
[11:29] <alex__> [100%] Built target panel-lib
[11:29] <alex__> Linking CXX static library libunity-shared-bamf.a
[11:29] <alex__> [100%] Built target unity-shared-bamf
[11:29] <alex__> Scanning dependencies of target panel
[11:29] <alex__> [100%] Building CXX object panel/CMakeFiles/panel.dir/StandalonePanel.cpp.o
[11:29] <alex__> Linking CXX executable panel
[11:29] <alex__> [100%] Built target panel
[11:29] <alex__> no errors, but if I try to run it... I got the previous errors
[11:35] <brendand> alex__, i would doubt that building part of it will work
[11:36] <brendand> alex__, you would have to build it all, then make panel would work to rebuild just the panel bits if that's all you changed
[11:54] <alex__> brendand, ah ok, so it works in this way, understoo. I go to rebuild all
[11:54] <sladen> directhex: ta
[11:55] <directhex> hm?
[12:04] <alex__> brendand, ok Ibuilt every think and succesfully. Now I want to install everything in my customized directory
[12:05] <brendand> alex_ - make install should work?
[12:10] <mdeslaur> LocutusOfBorg1: how do I feel about a sync that would revert the ftbfs fix? Is that what you're asking me?
[12:10] <nikow> .win 21
[12:10] <nikow> woops, sorry
[12:13] <Slex1> seems I lost the xchat window. I should not use anymore xchat. I was alex__
[12:14] <alex__> brendand, I hope
[12:15] <alex__> brendand, it fails here:
[12:15] <alex__> CMake Error at cmake_install.cmake:168 (file):
[12:15] <alex__> file INSTALL cannot copy file
[12:15] <alex__> "/home/alex/Scaricati/unity-7.3.3/com.canonical.Unity.gschema.xml" to
[12:15] <alex__> "/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/com.canonical.Unity.gschema.xml".
[12:16] <alex__> I think the reason is that it wants root permission. Why it don't install that .xm file in my custom dir?
[12:16] <alex__> xml*
[12:18] <directhex> sladen: don't thank me yet, i have Plans(tm) for OpenBVE. evil plans
[12:23] <Slex1> time to go, woth both account Slex and alex__ see you soon and thanks dor the help
[12:28] <mdeslaur> LocutusOfBorg1: oh! I see the -2.1 version now. Sure, sync it.
[13:03] <LocutusOfBorg1> exactly mdeslaur :)
[13:04] <mdeslaur> LocutusOfBorg1: I need to wait until I've had more coffee before responding to people in the morning :P
[13:05] <LocutusOfBorg1> me too :)
[13:34] <utlemming> pitti: did the behavior of "nofail" in /etc/fstab change with 15.10?
[13:35] <utlemming> pitti: I'm seeing an issue where "nofail" file systems that fail to mount on boot is resulting in a system going into emergency mode instead of continuing to boot. On 15.04 the option results in the system continuing to boot.
[14:36] <mbiebl> utlemming: can you pastebin the output of systemctl status foo.mount and systemctl show foo.mount
[14:53] <utlemming> mbiebl: sure
[14:54] <utlemming> mbiebl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209036/
[14:55] <mbiebl> utlemming: hm, that's not what I asked for
[14:55] <mbiebl> can you run systemctl status and show for the failed mnt.mount unit?
[14:56] <utlemming> mbiebl: oh, sorry...let me see if I can get to a system. This a remote headless system in the cloud.
[15:00] <mbiebl> utlemming: oh, and sharing your /etc/fstab would help as well
[15:02] <utlemming> mbiebl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209069/
[15:03] <mbiebl> utlemming: ah
[15:03] <mbiebl> nobootwait != nofail
[15:03] <mbiebl> I think that Ubuntu specific fallback has been removed
[15:05] <utlemming> mbiebl: oh, really? you wouldn't happen to have the bug/commit where that change happened?
[15:06] <mbiebl> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-systemd/systemd.git/commit/?h=ubuntu&id=8fbf6c7e671c663190eae8a63b158e686c3d41fa
[15:08] <mbiebl> utlemming: so either the migration code is buggy or you added the fstab entry using nobootwait *after* the upgrade
[15:09] <utlemming> mbiebl: the nobootwait was added by cloud-init at first boot. Then the system snapshoted and launched as a new instance.
[15:10] <utlemming> mbiebl: no upgrade, wily native
[15:10] <utlemming> mbiebl: it works just fine with 15.04
[15:17] <nemo> So, I ran into a very confusing launchpad issue when trying to figure out the vmware-view smartcard authentication using vmware-view-open-client 4.5 package
[15:17] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vmware-view-client/+bug/1268770
[15:17] <nemo> it was filed almost 2 years ago, and suggested a rather convoluted fix
[15:17] <mbiebl> utlemming: please file a bug against cloud-init!
[15:18] <utlemming> mbiebl: ack...should it be using nofail then?
[15:18] <nemo> both (a) and (b) seem to boil down to "custom build of OpenSC"
[15:18] <mbiebl> utlemming: yeah
[15:18] <utlemming> mbiebl: thanks, will do
[15:18] <nemo> anyway. looks like vmware view open client is broken in ubuntu packaging - at least for smartcard auth, which is an increasingly common use-case (and non-optional here)
[15:19] <nemo> gonna try that custom opensc build, but was hoping maybe there was some magic PPA or something ☺
[17:32] <pgquiles> does ubuntu/canonical provide any facility to store specialized ubuntu flavors?
[17:33] <pgquiles> translated into something meaningful: I've created an ISO of Wily with better support for Bay Trail-based computers and I cannot host 1.2 GB on my server without my ISP killing me
[17:34] <pgquiles> (new drivers, kernel 4.3 with a few patches, etc)
[17:35] <jpds> Is there a reason you can't use the hardware enablement stack?
[17:35] <jpds> pgquiles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[17:39] <pgquiles> jpds: multiple reasons: current ubuntu images won't boot on bay trail, so it's a bad start. Also my kernel includes a couple of patches of my own to get the nvram from uefi on broadcom network/bluetooth devices and to fix the clocksource. For the rest, the new drivers are packaged in my PPA.
[17:40] <pgquiles> none of that is available from the LTS Enablement Stack, which is great otherwise
[18:11] <cyphermox> pgquiles: I think if booting on bay trail is the only requirement (for example, there aren't different packages you need for this and that aside from bay trail support), then you should ask on ubuntu-devel for an image that has the right kernel and bootloader bits. I'm not sure yet how we'd do to support that though
[18:11] <cyphermox> what changes are you making to the stock image?
[19:05] <pgquiles> cyphermox: speaking off the top of my head 32-bit efi loader, kernel 4.3 on wily with a couple of patches for better clock resolution and downloading the nvram in brcmfmac (instead of providing it as a device-specific .txt file), qf9700 driver, rtl8723bs drivers (wifi and bluetooth) and probably something else
[19:05] <cyphermox> right, so bootloader and kernel
[19:06] <pgquiles> the 32-bit efi is lp #1341944 and lp #1025555
[19:08] <pgquiles> the drivers are dkms-enabled packages, actually. Problem is if you don't have a network connection (which is what these drivers provide), you cannot install them from a PPA :-|
[19:21] <pgquiles> cyphermox: oh, also new linux-firmware snapshot from kernel.org and new broadcom-sta proprietary driver (wl.ko)
[19:22] <cyphermox> pgquiles: I can't really comment on kernel specifics, since I'm not really involved in doing kernel work
[19:29] <pgquiles> cyphermox: I see. My question was more about hosting the ISO somewhere "decent" instead of using mega or alike.
[19:29] <cyphermox> sure, but to do that we need to have the right things in the archive already.
[19:34] <pgquiles> cyphermox: what do you mean? I'm not talking about an official ISO :-?
[19:49] <smoser> pitti, are you around ?
[19:49] <smoser> wonder if anyone else can help. i'm looking at open-iscsi and initramfs.
[19:51] <smoser> in ubuntu, we have for quite some time had https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-iscsi/+bug/728088
[19:51] <smoser> basically something that stops the network device upon which the iscsi root is attached from getting bounced.
[19:51] <smoser> but debian doesn't seem to have anything like that.
[19:51] <smoser> and i'm wondering how that is possible
[19:53] <josepht> smoser: afaik there's an issue with open-iscsi and systemd
[19:53] <smoser> in ubuntu ? or in debian
[19:53] <smoser> also, it looks (this is my first look at it) that there might be a systemd-initramfs path in debian
[19:55] <josepht> smoser: I was looking at bug 1465196, but haven't made much progress yet
[19:55] <smoser> that must be dracut (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787553)
[20:04] <smoser> is debian moving away from initramfs-tools and towards dracut ?
[21:04] <smoser> hm... wondering outloud.
[21:04] <smoser> should /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules be in the initramfs ? if ip= is used, and network devicews are kept up (iscsi root) it would seem maybe it should
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-installer
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[09:12] <psivaa> Morning
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-ops
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[00:23] <bazhang> 'outdated tar'?
[00:23] <bazhang> @random tar tor HURD emacs
[00:23] <bazhang> why you...
[00:41] <chu> Ouch
[00:48] <bazhang> oh here to rub salt in
[00:48] <bazhang> I just knew it!
[02:15] <bazhang> gone
[02:32] <Unit193> Danke.
[03:31] <valorie> imo, !alsamixer should give the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/Alsamixer
[03:31] <valorie> instead it gives nuttin'
[16:24] <bazhang> yetanotherpikapi help 'advisor'
[16:24] <bazhang> cap
[16:25] <Pici> eh?
[21:17] <Pici> :/
[21:18] <phunyguy> :-/
[21:18] <popey> :--/
[21:20] <k1l_> that user was a big issue on nov.1st already
[21:20] <genii> I'm too busy to keep a proper eye on him right now
[21:23] <k1l_> he is gone for now, so i will go and make my dinner
[21:50] <genii> @comment 69826 Inappropriate name, racially charged remarks.
[21:52] <k1l_> known troll
[21:52] <genii> Yeah he wanders in occasionally
[22:17] <k1l_> what is "lsb_release -d"? "15.04" oh its a 11.10 :/
[22:19] <valorie> haha
[22:20] <k1l_> next time some user is arguing again why we want to see some output and not just believe what the users think they use.
[22:21] <valorie> fantasy IS reality
[22:21] <valorie> get with it, k1l_
[22:22] <valorie> watch some US political debates and see that in action!
[22:22] <k1l_> whatever pills you take, i want some too :)
[22:22] <genii> Heh
I think I need to reinstall my dmraid
[23:15] <bazhang> walkthrough!
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[17:47] <utente> https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ACPI_Wakeup. I have problems to understand chapter 7. S3 (SUSPEND TO RAM). Anyone can explain me how to create that /wakeup file?? I'm not a script expert.
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2015-11-09-#launchpad
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[11:32] <seb128> hey
[11:33] <seb128> does anyone know when xenial is going to be open for translations?
[11:37] <cjwatson> wgrant: ^- when you did this for wily, did you run a test copy anywhere? dogfood doesn't have wily, let alone xenial
[11:38] <wgrant> cjwatson: No, it can't really go wrong any more.
[11:38] <cjwatson> I love it when somebody who isn't me says that.
[11:38] <cjwatson> Let me go find a webop.
[11:39] <wgrant> In the old days it took LP down for eight hours and inserted tens of millions of rows.
[11:39] <wgrant> Bit simpler now.
[11:42] <cjwatson> wgrant: Can you see why ackee.canonical.com::launchpad-production-logs/rosetta/approve-imports.log has been "Lockfile /var/lock/launchpad-translations-import-queue-gardener.lock in use" for ages?
[11:44] <wgrant> cjwatson: Probably libreoffice, but looking.
[11:45] <wgrant> https://translations.launchpad.net/+imports/+index?field.filter_extension=all&field.filter_status=NEEDS_REVIEW&field.filter_target=all&batch=75&direction=backwards&memo=255550&start=255475
[11:45] <wgrant> hi libreoffice
[11:47] <cjwatson> Will that need to be killed?
[11:47] <wgrant> No.
[11:47] <wgrant> It'll just take a few hours each run.
[11:47] <wgrant> Oh
[11:47] <wgrant> You mean for the opening?
[11:47] <wgrant> Yes, best to disable and kill.
[11:47] <cjwatson> Yes
[11:48] * cjwatson looks for "gardener" and only finds it in a script-monitor line
[11:48] <wgrant> That's rosetta-approve-imports
[11:48] <cjwatson> oh, I guess it's in fact rosetta-approve-imports itself
[11:51] <cjwatson> I'm assuming that gigantic needs-review queue is something that Ubuntu needs to garden
[11:51] <wgrant> Right.
[11:52] <wgrant> Classically Ubuntu's translations people would clean it up, or the LP translations team.
[11:52] <wgrant> There's a minor problem with that strategy now.
[11:52] <cjwatson> That neither group exists?
[11:52] <wgrant> Correct!
[11:54] <cjwatson> dpm: ^- is there still anyone from your end who might be able to have a look at the translations import queue?
[11:56] <dpm> cjwatson, I will approve new templates from time to time, but it's been quite a while now that no one has looked at the import queues. It's just too much manual work
[12:05] <Laney> how long does it for a PPA's reported disk space to drop after deleting packages?
[12:05] <Laney> if a long time, can someone enable armhf on ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ppa? :)
[12:06] <cjwatson> Laney: A day ish
[12:08] <cjwatson> Laney: that's a virtualised PPA, so armhf will go through qemu-user-static; and ~ubuntu-desktop has non-Canonical members, so I can't make it devirt
[12:08] <cjwatson> are qemu-user-static builds going to be sufficient for what you're doing? they tend to break with threading
[12:08] <Laney> Well, I want to test an ffmpeg build, so I'd guess not actually.
[12:09] <Laney> I could just grab a silo, or use a PPA of mine
[12:10] <Laney> cjwatson: Maybe https://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+edit ? Or I can grab a landing PPA if you prefer.
[12:11] <cjwatson> Laney: I'm not in commercial-admins, so can't do it myself. wgrant may still be around, otherwise using a silo would be simplest
[12:11] <wgrant> Size bump?
[12:11] <wgrant> Sure.
[12:12] <Laney> wgrant: devirt-and-armhf
[12:13] <wgrant> Laney: Or I could just bump the quota of ~laney/ubuntu/arm.
[12:13] <Laney> wgrant: If you think ffmpeg is going to survive a build
[12:13] <wgrant> Oh, that's virt, I see.
[12:13] <Laney> Or devirt that one, whatever. :P
[12:14] <wgrant> May make more sense to devirt that one.
[12:14] <wgrant> experimental doesn't look obviously nonvirt.
[12:14] <wgrant> arm's quota quadrupled, virt disabled.
[12:15] <Laney> Cheers!
[12:20] <cjwatson> seb128: OK, initial steps done from our end, and I've mailed ubuntu-translations-coordinators@ for the next bits. Will see if anyone answers.
[12:21] <seb128> cjwatson, thanks
[16:17] <sergiusens> cjwatson, hey, I recall a while back that we might get commit message semantics for git to have lp mark bugs 'Fix Commited'
[16:26] <cjwatson> sergiusens: Certainly not that; LP has never done that even for bzr. But we should hopefully get links in the not too distant future, which were dependent on some generalising of cross-references that wgrant did a while back.
[16:32] <sergiusens> oh sorry, right, the automatic Fixed Comitted state change is a tarmac thing
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2015-11-09-#kubuntu
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[00:01] <valorie> !firewall
[00:01] <valorie> Letr5ts: ^^^
[00:07] <Letr5ts> valorie: thanks :) Is there a KDE specific firewall GUI package that many KUbuntu users use?
[00:10] <valorie> Letr5ts: pretty much as the factoid says
[00:11] <valorie> I let my router do the work, personally
[00:11] <Letr5ts> :)
[00:18] <bprompt> Letr5ts: hhhmm there used to be a kfw or kfirewall, not sure if its there still in kde4
[00:18] <bprompt> !ufw | Letr5ts
[00:19] <Letr5ts> bprompt: yeah, several years ago there was a real nice simple package, gui. kfirewall, iirc, but not anymore???
[00:20] <bprompt> I don't see it in the repositories
[00:20] <Letr5ts> Were is the KStart menu location for ufw-kde? I just installed it, but don't see it in the menu.
[00:25] <bprompt> Letr5ts: do a search =)
[00:25] <bprompt> Letr5ts: but I'd think either Networking or System tools
[00:32] <valorie> !info kfirewall
[00:32] <valorie> probably not ported to kf5 (yet)
[00:35] <Letr5ts> valorie: kf5?
[00:36] <Letr5ts> valorie: ah. Frameworks 5
[00:37] <valorie> sorry for the jargon
[00:37] <valorie> yes, frameworks 5
[00:38] <seriousstorm85> what do you think will happen to Kubuntu with Jonathan Ridell leaving?
[00:39] <Letr5ts> JR +=
[00:39] <valorie> we'll be a bit slower
[00:39] <Letr5ts> JR +=
[00:40] <valorie> we have no paid work now, so releases will be slower, especially now as we try to ramp up tooling
[00:40] <valorie> all help welcome!
[00:43] <Letr5ts> Firewall GUI viewer sw???
[00:45] <valorie> Letr5ts: if that is what you love, we'd like your help, yes
[00:45] <valorie> on the Kubuntu level, or upstream in KDE
[00:45] <Letr5ts> I am wondering if there is such a thing.
[00:46] <valorie> the "viewer" part I don't know
[00:46] <valorie> yes, there was kfirewall, and ufw-kde
[00:46] <valorie> !ufw-kde
[00:47] <valorie> err
[00:47] <valorie> !info ufw-kde
[00:50] <Letr5ts> valorie: I see "Firewall" under KDE System Settings > Network. Is that ufw-kde? It's config only, not a firewall/network status monitor.
[00:50] <valorie> right, KCM means control module
[00:51] <valorie> if there is a monitor, it would be a widget of some sort
[00:51] <valorie> available from the "hamburger" menu of plasma
[00:51] <valorie> either on the desktop or panel, depending on how you work
[01:01] <excalibr> I read some months ago that ksecret would replace kwallet and that would also address all the long standing complains about kwallet password prompts at login
[01:01] <excalibr> Im on 15.10 now and I dont get the password prompt anymore at login. But I dont see ksecret in running process
[01:03] <excalibr> Any idea what actually the change that does that?
[01:03] <excalibr> Just curious
[01:13] <shutin> hey I'm about to try installing kubuntu 14.04 in a dual boot setup with win 10. anything i should watch out for?
[02:26] <TheCyberQuake> anyone else having issues with sddm-greeter in 15.10? I can't get into kubuntu from both the live cd and from a full install, I've tried redownloading to no avail
[02:27] <TheCyberQuake> Executable: ssdm-greeter PID: 3534 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 11/9/15 02:24:01
[02:55] <valorie> hmm, cyberquake left
[02:55] <valorie> redownloading is usually not a help
[02:56] <valorie> excalibr: I think ksecret is part of kwallet?
[02:56] <valorie> but I've not read up on it
[03:13] <excalibr> valorie, by the way, do you have any workaround for output audio device not switching back to lineout when I plug out headphone from lineout port?
[03:14] <excalibr> switch back to speakers*
[03:15] <valorie> hmmm, the only time I had that problem it was a kernel bug
[03:15] <valorie> and the workaround was a kernel patch!
[03:16] <valorie> what version of kubuntu are you using, excalibr?
[03:17] <excalibr> Im on 15.10. Been having this issue since I started using plasma 5
[03:17] <valorie> interesting
[03:17] <valorie> I'm also on 15.10, and have not experienced those issues
[03:17] <valorie> so I'm assuming that it's a driver issue
[03:18] <valorie> I would tend to open up alsamixer and watch what happens when I un/plug in the earphones
[03:18] <valorie> if not alsa, then pulseaudio
[03:19] <valorie> lastly, kmix
[03:19] <valorie> somewhere, the unplug action isn't being registered
[03:27] <excalibr> valorie, sorry not so familiar with alsamixer. Where do I need to look a change in alsamixer while un/pluging in earphone
[03:28] <valorie> !info alsamix
[03:28] <valorie> pfff
[03:28] <valorie> !alsamix
[03:28] <valorie> grrrr
[03:28] <valorie> it is a cli application, but you use your arrow keys to navigate it
[03:28] <excalibr> haha
[03:29] <excalibr> I know its cli. Im staring at alsamixer now but I dont know what exactly to look at
[03:29] <valorie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/Alsamixer
[03:29] <valorie> oh, sorry
[03:30] <valorie> that page is better than me 'splaining
[03:30] <valorie> !alsamixer
[03:30] <valorie> silly ubottu
[03:30] <valorie> not sure what happened to the handy factoid
[03:38] <excalibr> valorie, so while playing some song on speaker I plugged in earphone. I saw the speaker bar in alsamixer switched to MM. Then I unplugged the earphone, the speaker bar still has MM on it. Is that what should I observed in alsamixer?
[03:39] <valorie> well, that shows that the "message" never gets to alsa
[03:39] <valorie> which is pretty far down on the stack
[03:40] <valorie> how about the mic input, does that register?
[03:40] <valorie> you can use your earphones to test that in the input jack
[03:41] <valorie> they are bad mics, but can function that way
[03:46] <excalibr> valorie, wait. Something magical happened. In alsamixer, with speaker still muted after I unplug the earphone, if I manually unmute the speaker bar after that, everything works as it should after that. Plugging in earphone, audio goes to lineout and unpluggin earphone, audio goes back to speakers
[03:46] <valorie> cool!
[03:46] <excalibr> What is..happening!
[03:46] <excalibr> Haa
[03:47] <excalibr> So what is the bug here?
[03:47] <valorie> alsamixer is a nice tool to have in your back pocket
[03:47] <valorie> not so good to use all the time
[03:47] <valorie> well, hard to say if it was a hardware problem or software?
[03:48] <valorie> or, where in the stack it happened
[03:48] <valorie> like: "playing some song" -- in what?
[03:48] <excalibr> most likely software? Ive never had this problem in gnome/unity
[03:48] <valorie> Amarok? Youtube?
[03:48] <valorie> well, I've not had it in kubuntu either
[03:51] <excalibr> I was playing song in Spotify but now Im playing song in Amarok
[03:52] <valorie> do you get the same behavior on both?
[03:52] <valorie> because Amarok uses phonon and spotify doesn'
[03:52] <valorie> t
[03:53] <Hudsonkem> blender thumbnail for dolphin 15.08.2, ideas?
[03:54] <excalibr> valorie: Yep, the correct behavior on both. But only after I unmuted the speaker bar a while ago
[03:55] <valorie> excalibr: so I guess then I would check with kmix, and pulseaudio in turn
[03:55] <valorie> as you did with alsamixer
[03:55] <valorie> if it is the same behavior on all, it's gotta be either a driver or hardware
[03:57] <excalibr> valorie, do I need to undo the change I did in alsamixer first before checking with kmix/pulseaudio?
[03:57] <valorie> that I do not know
[03:58] <valorie> as I said, the only time I had your problem was years ago
[03:58] <valorie> and it was the kernel
[03:58] <valorie> about as far down the stack as you can go
[03:58] <valorie> :p
[04:00] <Hudsonkem> excalibr whats problem?
[04:01] <excalibr> Hudsonkem, my output audio device doesnt switch back to speakers when I unplug ear/headphone
[04:02] <Hudsonkem> 山 :O ok, just a moment
[04:06] <Hudsonkem> read about it ok, so take back if u not solve it :)>>>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058548
[04:15] <excalibr> Hudsonkem, ty I'll give it a go
[04:47] <jbermudes> Does anyone else experience in 15.10 times where the thubnails that show up when you hover over a taskbar item don't go away when you mouse away from the taskbar?
[04:51] <Hudsonkem> jbermudes right click on taskbar and go to task manager settings,
[04:51] <Hudsonkem> check (show tips)
[04:52] <Hudsonkem> check (show tooltips)*
[04:54] <jbermudes> Hudsonkem: Thanks. I understand that will turn them off, but I was wondering if others had experienced a bug where they don't behave as they should
[04:54] <valorie> jbermudes: I've not seen that
[04:55] <jbermudes> It might be because I upgraded from 15.04. Maybe I'll try a fresh install, because I also noticed the upgrade made my taskbar take forever to load after logging in
[04:55] <valorie> I like tooltips so wouldn't want to turn them off
[04:55] <jbermudes> Right, I like them too
[04:55] <jbermudes> I just don't like them sometimes being there permanently :P
[04:55] <valorie> I upgraded
[04:56] <valorie> I doubt it's that
[04:56] <Hudsonkem> jbermudes, ^^ got it
[04:56] <valorie> you could find the plasma config in ~/.config and rename that
[04:56] <Hudsonkem> valorie dont be, upgrade dist may cause many issues as u can wonder
[04:57] <valorie> perhhaps there is a wonky config left over from 15.04
[04:57] <Hudsonkem> maybe :).
[04:57] <valorie> Hudsonkem: sure, but that is usually left-over configs and such
[04:57] <valorie> one can always test with a new user
[04:58] <valorie> I have had bad upgrades, yes
[04:58] <Hudsonkem> :V ya god listen u :), try it jbermudes,
[05:00] <valorie> but in general, apt gives good ways to fix partial installs and such
[05:03] <Hudsonkem> jbermudes>> mv ~/.config ~/.config_bkp
[05:04] <jbermudes> I'll try that out. Thanks :)
[05:14] <valorie> ooo, I wouldn't have moved the whole .config folder, but that can work.....
[05:14] <valorie> you've always got the old one if you need to move some files back
[05:15] <Hudsonkem> :)
[07:57] <londoh> Hi I have a failed upgrade 15.05 -> 15.10. I started it from muon as per wiki. left it running over night. this morning machine has hung. a reboot gets kernel panic unabel to mount root fs
[07:58] <londoh> anyone know 1?how to recover it please
[08:00] <valorie> londoh: can you get a konsole or does control + alt + f2 or f3 etc. work?
[08:03] <valorie> if so, can you do `sudo do-release-upgrade` ?
[08:04] <valorie> just paste that into your console using control-shift-v
[08:04] <londoh> no its completley hung
[08:04] <valorie> without the backticks
[08:05] <valorie> so no control + alt + f anything?
[08:05] <valorie> sometimes one will work, when others will no
[08:05] <valorie> t
[08:05] <londoh> and so i hit power button. now have kernel panic and "unable to mount root rs"
[08:05] <valorie> :(
[08:06] <valorie> power button was not a good move
[08:06] <valorie> probably now your only hope is to do a new install
[08:06] <londoh> i just searched the forum and it failed updating libsane drivers. others have the problem.
[08:06] <valorie> a failed upgrade is possible to fix, but not once restarted
[08:07] <londoh> oh bugger :-(
[08:07] <valorie> so do you have a DVD drive in it?
[08:07] <londoh> yea i do
[08:07] <valorie> and can burn a DVD or USB somehow?
[08:07] <valorie> !liveusb
[08:08] <valorie> usb is best, I think
[08:08] <valorie> because fastest
[08:08] <londoh> yea I have a couple other machines here. am downloading iso now.
[08:08] <londoh> surely there is some way to recover this failed install?
[08:09] <valorie> well, it is possible that with the liveUSB, you can fix it from there
[08:09] <valorie> is it worthwhile to do so?
[08:09] <valorie> I mean, it's a challenge
[08:10] <londoh> well the machine has a spare drive with rsynced /home backup but even so its a hassle to reinstall everything
[08:10] <valorie> !recovery
[08:10] <valorie> pfff
[08:10] <londoh> tried it - same kernel panic / me panic
[08:11] <valorie> right, that wasn't what I was looking for
[08:11] <valorie> there are special live ISOs for recovery
[08:12] <londoh> recorvery iso for kubunto or generic?
[08:12] <valorie> http://www.sysresccd.org/Download is the one I've heard of most
[08:12] <valorie> generic
[08:12] <londoh> ok i'll give it a shot
[08:12] <valorie> the thing is, if you have your ~/home safe
[08:13] <valorie> then all you need do with a new install is add a few applications
[08:13] <valorie> I know that there is some futzing
[08:13] <valorie> but really, installing takes so little time
[08:13] <valorie> but if you want to do the work, rescue might be interesting
[08:14] <londoh> yea I kinda know that but even so it takes a few days to get it all back up
[08:14] <londoh> it mys work machine - stoopid thing to do to trust and upgrade at bedtime :-( doh!
[08:15] <valorie> :(
[08:15] <valorie> well, usually it works
[08:15] <valorie> my upgrade was totally boring
[08:15] <londoh> I have to go out now for an hour. I'll elect to try the rescue remedy first.
[08:15] <valorie> best of luck, londoh
[08:15] <londoh> this kinda excitment i can do without at 8 am monday morning ;-)
[08:15] <londoh> later
[08:20] <Smurphy> londoh: It probably is only a failed Grub configuration update. Means all data is there.
[08:20] <Smurphy> You should be able to manually fix the grub and boot into the system.
[08:20] <Smurphy> Check out
[08:20] <Smurphy> http://stargate.solsys.org/mod.php?mod=faq&op=extlist&topicid=7&expand=yes#154
[08:20] <Smurphy> That's what I usually do.
[08:24] <londoh> smurphy I was typing but i think the chat hung too
[08:25] <londoh> I'm hoping your suggestion is possible, but I've never done it before. have to go out back in an hour for some more advice. thanks all
[08:44] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:51] <Ardalan> Hey folks
[09:51] <Ardalan> I have a problem with making kubuntu 15.10 usb disk
[09:52] <Ardalan> unetbootin and startup disk creator doesn't work
[09:52] <Ardalan> can anyone help?!
[11:29] <freeroute> hi everyone, I have this idea / feature and I was wondering if I could do that on KDE.
[11:30] <freeroute> basically, I want to name virtual desktops, and have something like Krunner go to that specific virtual desktop based on that name.
[11:30] <freeroute> is that somehow doable?
[11:40] <Smurphy> freeroute: it is doable./ Check activities for the placing. And - the desktop naming is a feature that exists for a long time already
[11:41] <freeroute> Smurphy: well I've named my virtual desktops accordingly, but selecting them based on text search? Do I have to use activities for that?
[11:43] <Smurphy> Why not just make Ctrl-F1, Ctrl-F2 etc. ?
[11:43] <Smurphy> selecting based on text search, no. Doesn't work.
[11:46] <freeroute> because I only have 12 function keys :p
[11:46] <Smurphy> lol...
[11:46] <Smurphy> Ctrl-Fx is already hard-coded into it.,
[11:47] <freeroute> for example, I have browser windows based on topic: Research, linux, reddit general, crypto, etc.
[11:47] <freeroute> and personally I'd rather have different workspaces cut out for those topics.
[11:48] <freeroute> oh I thought I could change that shortcut to for example do Super-1, Super-2 etc.
[11:48] <freeroute> is it hardcoded?
[11:48] <Smurphy> Ctrl-F1 etc., yes.
[11:49] <freeroute> oh... so I can't change those shortcut? :S
[11:56] <hateball> freeroute: well your browser windows should show up in the search, and you will be offered to be taken there regardless of which virtual desktop they are on
[11:56] <hateball> so as long as you know the browser window name, that should work just the same as assigning the desktop itself a name, no?
[11:57] <freeroute> a lot of the times however the browser window title does not necessarily reflect the topic though
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:17] <freeroute> ello :)
[12:23] <londoh> thanks to the kind folks who stepped in earlier re 15.04->15.10 upgrade issue (valorie and a smurph maybe ;-) ) - the little boot-repair utility fixed most of it, then bit of messing about with dkms and nvidia driver. all good now, on 15.10. But that is one garish piece of desktop wallpaper - yuckk
[12:24] <lordievader> londoh: Nothing is stopping you from changing it ;)
[12:33] <amovah> Hi
[12:33] <amovah> I want to remove KDE desktop completly
[12:36] <BluesKaj> amovah, why and which kubuntu?
[12:37] <amovah> BluesKaj: I like KDE desktop but my hardwares is sucks
[12:37] <BluesKaj> ok , but which kubu8ntu release?
[12:37] <amovah> which kubuntu??? I don't understand. can you explain more
[12:37] <amovah> how can I find out which kubuntu
[12:37] <amovah> ?
[12:38] <lordievader> amovah: Open a terminal and run 'lsb_release -a'
[12:38] <amovah> I'm not in KDE desktop now
[12:38] <lordievader> amovah: As long as it it somekind of ubuntu it doesn't matter.
[12:39] <amovah> so, how can I remove completly kde desktop?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> sudo apt remove kubuntu-desktop && plasma-desktop
[12:40] <BluesKaj> oops not that
[12:41] <BluesKaj> sudo apt remove kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt remove plasma-desktop
[12:41] <amovah> should I run sudo apt-get autoremove command ?
[12:41] <Smurphy> after that, yes.
[12:42] <amovah> and I'm using Ubuntu 15.10
[12:43] <BluesKaj> amovah, do you have unity or gnome desktop installed
[12:43] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:43] <Smurphy> Which desktop do you run ?
[12:43] <amovah> unity
[12:43] <Smurphy> *lol* Almost same question :}
[12:44] <amovah> now I have another problem
[12:44] <amovah> I still have some applications, like konverstaion, kmail
[12:44] <amovah> I don't want them
[12:44] <amovah> How can I remove them all.?
[12:45] <Smurphy> Should have been removed by removing kubuntu-desktop....
[12:46] <ssarah> hei guys
[12:46] <ssarah> im learning chinese
[12:46] <ssarah> how to i change kde so i can start typing in chinese?
[12:46] <amovah> no, they are still here
[12:47] <Smurphy> remove the kontact suite then.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> amovah, did you run autoremove
[12:47] <amovah> yes of courese
[12:47] <amovah> course
[12:48] <amovah> Smurphy: it's not all, I have katem Knote, etc.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> run sudo apt-get autoclean as well\
[12:48] <amovah> kate*
[12:48] <amovah> are you sure?
[12:48] <amovah> it doesn't work
[12:49] <BluesKaj> amovah, try a reboot
[12:49] <amovah> let me do
[12:52] <Smurphy> fast reboot.
[12:52] <amovah> KDE desktop is still exsits on dm
[12:52] <amovah> and also its application
[12:53] <Smurphy> He didn't remote it then.
[12:53] <Smurphy> sudo apt-get remote desktop-kubuntu
[12:54] <amovah> Unable to locate package desktop-kubuntu
[12:54] <amovah> remote or remove?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> uhm kubuntu-desktop
[12:55] <amovah> Package 'kubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed
[12:56] <lordievader> You can allways spit through the 'dpkg -l' list and remove things manually.
[12:56] <amovah> there isn't another way?
[12:57] <Smurphy> Check this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[12:57] <amovah> in my opinion it isn't a solution , and it takes my time.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> aamo go ask in #ubuntu , those commands should have worked
[12:57] <BluesKaj> amovah,^
[12:58] <amovah> Smurphy: It doesn't work
[13:00] <BluesKaj> frankly I'm not sure this guy is legit , I've had enough ...I smell troll
[13:00] <Smurphy> Sorry then. I am using kubuntu. I don't remove it.
[13:00] <Smurphy> BluesKaj :}
[13:03] <amovah> my hardwares is sucks
[13:03] <amovah> I like that
[13:03] <amovah> but I need too remove it
[13:03] <amovah> I need to remove it
[13:03] <BluesKaj> http://askubuntu.com/questions/79636/how-to-remove-all-traces-of-kde-installed
[13:04] <amovah> No it's doesn't work, it's referenced to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[13:05] <BluesKaj> amovah, then go to #ubuntu , they can help you
[13:05] <amovah> also they can't
[13:06] <amovah> :(
[13:06] <BluesKaj> remove akonadi , it will take most of the kubuntu desktop with it
[13:07] <Smurphy> yep :}
[13:07] <amovah> it is their answer: amovah: look at your apt/dpkg log and see what packages you installed, and remove them
[13:11] <BluesKaj> amovah, just remove akonadi
[13:13] <BluesKaj> it happened to me the first time i used kde4 and wanted to get rid of akonadi because I didn't need it , took the whole kubuntu-desktop :-)
[13:17] <BluesKaj> good riddance and good luck
[13:23] <Smurphy> :}
[15:07] <JunkHunk> did anybody get nvclock working on kubuntu?
[15:08] <JunkHunk> I really would like to monitor GPU usage
[15:10] <JunkHunk> I get this error: $ nvclock -i
[15:10] <JunkHunk> Error: failed to mmap PMC
[15:12] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, I don't see nvclock in muon
[15:12] <JunkHunk> I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/387594/how-to-measure-gpu-usage
[15:12] <JunkHunk> nvclock seems to be kind of forgotten
[15:13] <JunkHunk> nvidia-smi works nice for me
[15:13] <JunkHunk> I only need now to type the command in conky to use it
[15:13] <JunkHunk> I ll ask in conky
[15:14] <BluesKaj> qhynot use the system monitor or cpustat
[15:14] <BluesKaj> oops whynot
[15:18] <ejay> hi. Plasma5 just went full retard. Did not change nothing and this crap is making extra spaces and, it looks like, it's trying to take whole space of a panel. Ofc it's retarded and my question is - how to make it so it will stop act like a rest of plasma?
[15:18] <ejay> systray of plasma5*
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ejay, which plasma version , plasmashell -v in the terminal
[15:36] <swa> hi wifi gets disconnected
[15:36] <swa> help please
[15:39] <Alias_> system requirements for kubuntu 15.10?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Alias_, which kubuntu are running now?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> are you
[15:40] <Alias_> Now I am with lubuntu
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ok , but whcich release?
[15:41] <Alias_> 14.04 LTS
[15:41] <ejay> BluesKaj: nvm. Tried to to fix it by clicking RMB on systray and plasma just died. Now it's fine, prolly will go retard after next reboot but I don't want to try if it's true.
[15:42] <swa> 14.04
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Alias_, ok what hardware do you have and how old is your pc?
[15:44] <Alias_> It's up to 4 year, the hardware is: Intel® Atom™ N450 Processor ,
[15:44] <Alias_> 1gb DDR2
[15:45] <Alias_> 1024x600 screen resolution
[15:46] <BluesKaj> 1GB RAM is minimum for kubuntu
[15:46] <Alias_> It have 1gb ram
[15:52] <BluesKaj> your cpu is fine, you can install kubuntu-desktop to try it out and choose the desktop at login, if it's too slow and difficult then just remove it
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Alias_,^
[15:52] <Alias_> Okey, really thx!
[16:32] <Guest89097> привет
[16:37] <test_> привет
[16:54] <mparillo> !ru
[17:58] <maartenw> I have recently been upgrading to 15.10 and since then, I'm suffering from a severe problem
[17:58] <maartenw> when I am in the KDE environment, all of a sudden both of my screens go blank, the computer remains alive, but keyboard seems unusable
[17:59] <maartenw> The only way to get out is by hitting the reset button
[18:00] <maartenw> I use a GT430 Nvidia card with the nvidia drivers
[18:00] <maartenw> I've tried various versions: newest one, 340 and also legacy, 304, all have the same error
[18:01] <maartenw> I have no clue when it happens, all of a sudden
[18:01] <maartenw> I've now switched to xfce to see whether plasma is to be blamed, but it seems it happened again during diner
[18:01] <maartenw> Any clues? I see nothing among bug reports...
[18:13] <drleviathan> maartenw, do you still have access to the command line terminals (e.g. CTRL+ALT+F1, CTRL+ALT+F2, ... up to F5 or F6)?
[18:14] <drleviathan> btw, to get back to GUI mode use CTRL+ALT+F7
[18:14] <maartenw> drleviathan: no, unfortunately not. I tried immediately
[18:14] <maartenw> it seems the keyboard is broken too
[18:16] <drleviathan> maartenw, do you have SSH access to the computer when it goes blank?
[18:17] <drleviathan> I'm just wondering if running the "dmesg" command or looking at some log while the screen is blank would provide clues
[18:17] <drleviathan> I don't have a good theory about what the problem is
[18:17] <maartenw> drleviathan i've not yet tried
[18:18] <maartenw> the thing is it's long ago when I used ssh
[18:18] <maartenw> but i can try to set it up with my tablet
[18:18] <maartenw> do you know an easy app for android?
[18:19] <drleviathan> no. I always have a second computer available since everyone in my family has their own
[18:19] <maartenw> in mine too, but they are on windows
[18:20] <maartenw> wait i have an old laptop
[18:20] <maartenw> i'm going to try
[18:20] <maartenw> i guess the old X log will help too
[18:20] <maartenw> I personally think that the x server crashes and locks up the screen
[18:29] <maartenw> ok, i have ssh access now to the computer
[18:29] <maartenw> so as soon as it goes down, which might take quite some time, I can try
[19:00] <xela2244> hi, i'm using kubuntu 15.10 and I added system load widget, but is showing wrong RAM usage
[19:12] <stefan_____> hi, i have i small problem with my kde install, kde does not change icons when i choose some(dolphin uses the gtk icon set)
[21:23] <stefan____> hi has someone ever experienced that programms like dolphin use the gtk style even if its not configured as default(kf5)?
[21:24] <bprompt> stefan____: nope
[21:38] <daum> hey guys - i just installed 15.10 fresh on my laptop which was on 14. now when i close browser windows/click log out the top of the screen flickers as it must be trying to do some sort of animation?
[21:58] <stefan____> ok found my problem, the env QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME was set
[22:15] <finetundra> how do I get to the OS from grub recovery
[22:17] <bprompt> finetundra: "to the OS"?
[22:30] <Eluus> "open file" dialog doesn't see usb drives in some programs, how do I fix that? kubuntu 15.10
[22:32] <bprompt> Eluus: that depends on the app itself, IIRC you can customize at some level the "open file" dialog window, or even provide your own, but you can always just got to /media/ folder to find your device
[22:33] <Eluus> bprompt: thanks!
[22:34] <Eluus> bprompt: do you know where I can customize the open file dialog window?
[22:36] <bprompt> Eluus: well... by "you", I meant the developer writing the application and using an "open file" dialog
[22:36] <Eluus> ic
[22:36] <Eluus> not all programs open the same dialog
[22:37] <bprompt> right
[22:37] <Eluus> I wish all of them used KDialog
[22:37] <bprompt> some use GTK dialogs, some use KDE's or QTs, and some may write their own like Java apps
[23:54] <Fritigern> HOLY COW!!!! Who would have thought that appmenu-qt5 could cause that much problems??? For days I could not figure out why the &^$*^ I had lost icons, why I couldn;t change Icon themes and my widgets looked like GTK. But thanks to stefan____ who discovered that QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME was set, I discovered that appmenu-qt5 was the cause of these issues
[23:56] <Fritigern> I've uninstalled that package, and now my icons (breeze) are reappearing, the widgts (breeze) look normal and everyhihng can be reconfigured again.
[23:57] <Fritigern> So now you know, if someone complains about missing icons, icon theme no longer working, and/or widgets looking weird, direct them to uninstalling the package appmenu-qt5 and stick with appmenu-qt (without 5)
[23:57] <genii> Good to know
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[04:49] <CrazyTux[m]> Hey guys -- it seems whenever I install OpenSSH_7.1p1 over the normal ubuntu 14.04 LTS packaged SSHD upstart fails and hangs.
[04:49] <CrazyTux[m]> Any thoughts/ideas?
[12:30] <McErroneous> "Upstart provides the same facilities as the traditional "init" system, but surpasses it in many ways. " In my view it makes things more complicated to end-users , like myself... . i am struggeling with upstart.
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2015-11-09-#snappy
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[02:49] <liuxg> may I know who has build snap using docker with armhf ubuntu?
[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[07:57] <zyga> good morning :)
[08:05] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:26] <soffokl> ogra_, do you remember, on Friday I asked you about high IOwait for stable Snappy on VirtualBox?
[08:26] <soffokl> dmesg give me following output http://pastebin.com/M96u8Che
[08:28] <mvo> ogra_: Chipaca found some interessting initrd sizes with recent rolling images, some where ~25mb big and that caused issues with the small /boot partition. were those accidents or will the initrd grow significantly
[08:40] <mkarliner> trying to install snappy for RPi2 on mac. It says the image archive format is unsupported. Anyone else have this?
[08:54] <dholbach> mvo, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/click-reviewers-tools/1514346/+merge/276961?
[08:55] <dholbach> mvo, you can see the error in the connected bug report
[08:57] <mvo> dholbach: sure
[08:58] <mvo> dholbach: done, thanks
[09:01] <dholbach> thanks
[09:40] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy World Freedom Day! 😃
[09:44] <zyga> I've pushed my firsts bits of capabilitiy work https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/pull/65
[09:44] <zyga> please have a look, take apart and poke holes at, I'm still learning go
[09:49] <ogra_> mvo, they were accidents, it should be back to normal i guess ... if not i have to fix it
[10:00] <ogra_> mvo, hmm, no, it is still 29M ... i'll check
[10:08] * zyga repushed https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/pull/65 with some golint fixes and goes for a quick coffee
[10:09] <longsleep> ogra_: so my live-build did not got much faster when on tmpfs :/ - i guess qemu ist just not faster and i might try it on native arm
[10:09] <ogra_> longsleep, find something with a fast disk then :)
[10:11] <longsleep> ogra_: well we have an armhf cluster with ssd usb raid for compiling Iridium browser - that is probably the fastest i can find without buying anything new - its a shame that dpkg cannot be ccached :/
[10:12] <longsleep> distributed dpkg would be nice as well :P
[10:12] <woodrowshen> hi, how about the progress of snapcrart with deb plugin ? i saw longsleep has a PR but no actions after CI fonnd errors.
[10:13] <longsleep> woodrowshen: sorry, did not have the time for that yet - i use the plugin on daily basis and the CI error is a minor one
[10:14] <longsleep> woodrowshen: were are some other suggestions on that plugin i need to investigate
[10:14] <longsleep> s/were/there
[10:16] <woodrowshen> longsleep: ok, so if i'd like to try deb plugin, i need to patch the commit of PR #53, based on git master, right ?
[10:17] <longsleep> woodrowshen: well if you want to try the plugin, just use my branch - sure you can rebase on master if you need some features not yet in my branch
[10:18] <woodrowshen> longsleep: i see, thank you. :)
[10:21] <ogra_> mvo, hmm, could it be that we didnt install linux-image-extra in the past ?
[10:21] <ogra_> in our device tarball
[10:21] <mvo> ogra_: that might be but I have not checked
[10:23] <ogra_> comparing rolling and 15.04 i see that in the unpacked rolling initrd /lib/modules is 15MB bigger and /lib/firmware is 8M bigger
[10:23] <ogra_> that might account for the extra 10M
[10:24] <Chipaca> ogra_: in am image created with the latest rolling, initrd is 8MB
[10:24] <woodrowshen> i have another question, snapcraft will happen errors when the snapcraft.yaml only set the field of seccomp for security-overwrites. Why did security-overwrites need to set both of apparmor and seccomp ?
[10:24] <Chipaca> ogra_: um, are you talking about initrd? :-)
[10:24] <ogra_> Chipaca, oh ?
[10:24] <ogra_> yes, i'm talking about initrd
[10:25] <Chipaca> let me build it again, just to confirm
[10:25] <ogra_> i just downloaded the latest device tarball from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily-preinstalled/current/ and it contains a 29M initrd
[10:26] <ogra_> and unpacking it and comparing with one from 15.04 i see ~23M extra stuff in /lib/modules|firmware ...
[10:27] <Chipaca> uff
[10:28] <ogra_> when i moved th device tarball creation out of the build process into a clean chroot i just install "linux-generic" ... which pulls in linux-image-extra-* .... i assume that wasnt installe dbefore
[10:39] <Chipaca> ogra_: so. 235 builds fine, 236 on (or at least, 236 and 238 :) ) don't, at all; no space left on device. But already 217 was weird: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13208129/
[10:39] <Chipaca> you can get to 236+ from 235, but once you're there you can't update any further, either
[10:40] <Chipaca> because two 236+-sized things don't fit
[10:40] <ogra_> hmm, that 217 one is werid
[10:41] <Chipaca> very wird
[10:41] <ogra_> i only started touchin amd64 around wed.
[10:41] <Chipaca> it might be a read herring, but even a red herring can tell you stuff
[10:41] <Chipaca> :-)
[10:41] <ogra_> oh, but i see when comparing my initrds that linux-firmware ships about 9M extra for amd/radeon gpu fw.
[10:42] * ogra_ checks when that was added to the package
[10:43] <Chipaca> hold on
[10:44] <Chipaca> 238 has the same size initrds as 235, once installed?
[10:44] <Chipaca> 6.4M?
[10:44] <ogra_> hmm, no, linux-firmware was 27MB the whole wily circle and recently grew to 29M
[10:45] <ogra_> i'm pretyt sure its linux-image-extra
[10:49] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13208164/
[10:50] <ogra_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13208169/
[10:50] <ogra_> only /lib/modules and /lib/firmware have massively grown
[10:52] <ogra_> hrm
[10:52] <ogra_> but i see linux-image-extra being installed in a 15.04 build log
[11:21] <ogra_> sigh, it doesnt help that some package added a new user over night it seems
[11:24] <ogra_> mvo, were the last two xenial failures your attempts ?
[11:24] <mvo> ogra_: I don't think so
[11:25] <mvo> ogra_: looks like a passwd change again
[11:25] <ogra_> hmm, someone started a build that failed
[11:25] <ogra_> mvo, yeah
[11:28] <ogra_> now where did the dnsmasq and tts users go ?
[11:41] <ogra_> sigh, so all systemd related UIDs changed for no good reason .. fun
[11:42] <ogra_> aha, because the input grouop disappeared ...
[11:44] <ogra_> hmm, so lool added that group in february but the livecd-rootfs changelog doesnt say why
[11:56] <ogra_> mvo, so when tryting to drop the initramfs generation bits from the rootfs on the weekend i found that ubuntu-snappy has a dep on initramfs-tools-ubuntu-core, could we drop that ?
[11:57] <ogra_> (along with apparmor having a (seemingly useless) dep on initramfs-tools)
[11:59] <mvo> ogra_: I think we can for snappy, not sure about apparmor I would have to check
[11:59] <ogra_> mvo, apparmor is in the hands of the security team, they told me its not needed
[11:59] <ogra_> i'll leave it to them to drop it
[12:00] <ogra_> (or make it a recommends or so, which would help as well)
[12:06] <ogra_> sigh, i dont really get how we end up with so many more modules
[12:10] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/Devel/branches/livecd-rootfs/initrd$ grep -c lib/modules ramdisk-15.04.manifest
[12:10] <ogra_> 506
[12:10] <ogra_> ogra@anubis:~/Devel/branches/livecd-rootfs/initrd$ grep -c lib/modules ramdisk-rolling.manifest
[12:10] <ogra_> 720
[12:29] * ogra_ slaps forehead
[12:29] <ogra_> oh man
[12:30] <ogra_> so gzip vs lzma make 10M difference it seems :P
[12:32] <longsleep> lvzm is pretty awesome for file system tarballs but it takes ages to compress
[12:32] <ogra_> yeah, i dont really care how long it takes
[12:32] <longsleep> s/lvzm/lzma
[12:32] <ogra_> but i wonder why the default did silently switch to gzip
[12:33] <ogra_> must be some live-build thing
[12:33] <longsleep> yeah live-build generates tar.gz for me as well
[12:33] <longsleep> system image then build tar.xz
[12:33] <ogra_> i'm only talking about the initrd
[12:33] <longsleep> ah
[12:55] <Guest42341> :/
[13:14] <mkarliner_> Anybody prepared to help a newbie?
[13:41] <mvo> jdstrand: good news, https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/pull/55 got a +1 from Chipaca - thats your (and mine) security policy generation branch
[13:50] <Chipaca> mkarliner: don't ask to ask, just ask
[14:09] <mkarliner> OK, I'm confused, is the only way to develop snappy apps to create them on Ubuntu Desktop?
[14:10] <mkarliner> Is there no native development on Snappy?
[14:10] <ogra_> on an ubuntu system, yes ... doesnt need to be desktop
[14:10] <ogra_> you can do it on snappy alone in a lxc container
[14:10] <Chipaca> on snappy, i'd say no. some people are doing it, but it's complicated.
[14:11] <ogra_> or in a chroot
[14:11] <Chipaca> there's going to be a devel snap at some point
[14:21] <dholbach> ogra_, mvo: do you all current snappy images have webdm installed?
[14:21] <ogra_> stable definitely., yes
[14:21] <ogra_> for rolling we dont provide dd'able images
[14:22] <ogra_> so its up to the person running ubuntu-device-flash to build it
[14:22] <dholbach> ok, thanks
[14:22] <ogra_> s/build/include when building/
[14:26] <mkarliner> Thanks guys. Its just that the getting started page makes absolutely no mention of cross development.
[14:59] <longsleep> Chipaca: Do you have any news on bug #1511435 - it is starting to become a blocker for us soon
[15:11] <Chipaca> gah. longsleep, i dropped that. On it now.
[15:12] <jdstrand> sergiusens: before you rip out vendor, please see my comment in the bug
[15:14] <longsleep> Chipaca: cool - i build my own snappy based rootfs images now - so let me know if you want me to test some fix to a specific package
[15:23] <sergiusens> jdstrand, I saw it; but I have include beuno and niemeyer in that conversation. Long term vendor is going away in any case so I'm not sure how this is going to be enforced given that the store doesn't enforce it at all either
[15:23] <sergiusens> as in as a developer I can upload with whatever vendor and have you think everything is good
[15:23] <sergiusens> and still see this issue
[15:23] <sergiusens> there is no check for, the vendor in this package does not match any of your account emails
[15:25] <jdstrand> sergiusens: sure-- I'm not asking for you to change anything per se, however, it seemed that the bit of information I mentioned wasn't considered, and I think it should be. if we remove the check, it will lead to situations where there will be conflicting dbus services and frameworks won't be coninstallable
[15:26] <jdstrand> sergiusens: right now, we have to manage the ones that fail the check, like nm and bluez, but those are Canonical provided
[15:26] <jdstrand> sergiusens: but the idea was that the vendor could own that reverse namespace, so if they created two frameworks that competed for the bus-name, that is on them to control
[15:27] <jdstrand> sergiusens: if we remove the check altogether, it is on the store to make sure there aren't coninstallability concerns
[15:27] <sergiusens> jdstrand, maybe the use of bus-name needs to trigger a check on what bus name you actually choose
[15:27] <sergiusens> jdstrand, in any case, the store still allowed having two snaps with conflicts here
[15:28] <jdstrand> sergiusens: the store would, but it would be on the vendor
[15:28] <jdstrand> sergiusens: ie, the vendor owned that slice of dbus namespace
[15:29] <jdstrand> sergiusens: I'm not saying we can't change this, just that there is a subtle difference
[15:29] <sergiusens> jdstrand, e.g.; I grab a snap you made that included a bus-name, kept vendor as you and I could potentially get into the store as there would be no vendor issue raised
[15:29] <sergiusens> jdstrand, I understand fully
[15:29] <jdstrand> sergiusens: because the review tools would 'warn' and trigger a manual review if the check failed
[15:29] <jdstrand> sergiusens: but if the check passed, then the vendor was in control
[15:29] <jdstrand> ok
[15:30] <jdstrand> sergiusens: yes, I understand what you are saying too
[15:30] <sergiusens> jdstrand, I am just saying we are not enforcing it as the store has no concept of vendor itself
[15:30] <sergiusens> ah, good
[15:30] <sergiusens> we enforce consistency locally to the snap but not against the ecosystem
[15:30] <sergiusens> those are the words I guess that best describe what I wanted to say
[15:31] <jdstrand> sergiusens: so what I am taking from this is that you are going to go back to the other guys with this info?
[15:31] <jdstrand> and comment in the bug?
[15:31] <sergiusens> jdstrand, yes, this also blocks the original bug in any case for moving vendor to an external snapcraft managed file
[15:33] <elopio> zyga: I need help with templates. So I have to put this in testplans.pxu *and* in examples.pxu?
[15:33] <elopio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209194/
[15:44] <elopio> plars: I don't get why go get doesn't seem to be doing anything in the test agent. No error either.
[15:44] <elopio> do you have a way to try this? go get launchpad.net/godeps
[15:45] <plars> elopio: I don't see much output from your test... it looks like it just gets and runs http://people.ubuntu.com/~elopio/spi_scripts/snappy-tests-job2.sh right?
[15:45] <jdstrand> woodrowshen: hey, you asked about security-overrides needing both-- that was for historical reasons, however 16.04 is going to make security-override much easier to use (ie, it'll be actually useful)
[15:46] <elopio> plars: yup. I'm trying different things to debug why the go code is not downloaded.
[15:47] <plars> elopio: trying it now
[15:49] <plars> elopio: godeps: cannot parse "dependencies.tsv": open dependencies.tsv: no such file or directory
[15:49] <plars> elopio: I got that when I ran 'godeps -u dependencies.tsv'
[15:49] <elopio> right, that comes from go get github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/...
[15:50] <plars> elopio: I think it should be snappy/dependencies.tsv
[15:50] <elopio> plars: I just wanted to check if go get downloads the code for you.
[15:50] <plars> elopio: it's sitting in the dir underneath that when it runs it
[15:50] <plars> elopio: yes, go get launchpad.net/godeps works fine
[15:50] <elopio> plars: what do you have in $GOPATH ?
[15:51] <elopio> it could be that from my script it's donwloading it somewhere else.
[15:51] <plars> elopio: I'm just running it from a test dir under tmp, so I have that
[15:51] <plars> elopio: in a real job, it would have a tmpdir created by python tempfile module
[15:51] <plars> that's the workspace that spi creates
[15:52] <elopio> plars: I'm using export GOPATH="$(pwd)" to download the code in this temp dir for the job.
[15:52] <plars> elopio: that's perfect
[15:53] <elopio> perfect, except that it doesn't work.
[15:53] <plars> elopio: I think it will if you fix that path
[15:54] <elopio> plars: sorry, which path?
[15:56] <plars> elopio: the one I mentioned earlier with the .tsv file... or is it not even getting that far? Where are you seeing where it gets stuck and what error are you seeing?
[15:56] <Chipaca> longsleep: just to be clear, you get this error when making your own oem snap and preinstalling things there?
[15:58] <elopio> plars: that was just a workaround for go get not working for me. On this workaround the path was alright, but the godeps binary was not downloaded. So not good.
[15:58] <elopio> plars: this fails for me:
[15:58] <elopio> export GOPATH="$(pwd)"
[15:58] <elopio> go get -d -v github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/...
[15:58] <elopio> cd $GOPATH/src/github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy
[15:58] <elopio> saying that the dir doesn't exist.
[15:58] <longsleep> Chipaca: yes exactly
[15:59] <plars> elopio: can you show me the error?
[15:59] <elopio> sure. In about 5 minutes.
[15:59] <longsleep> Chipaca: oem snap sideloaded by u-d-f and installing spreed-webrtc.longsleep from the store triggers it
[15:59] <plars> elopio: I'm trying that on one of the spi agent hosts, and it's working fine for me
[16:00] <longsleep> Chipaca: software:
[16:00] <longsleep> built-in:
[16:00] <longsleep> - spreed-webrtc.longsleep
[16:00] <Chipaca> longsleep: ta
[16:01] <longsleep> Chipaca: let me paste you a complete example
[16:04] <longsleep> Chipaca: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209349/
[16:04] <longsleep> Chipaca: so i want to preinstall something and apply config
[16:04] <plars> elopio: one thing to be aware of, is that the SPI workdir path is quite long: example: /tmp/run/d5cc3aa6-6ef6-4615-9c7e-e57ca04cc992_2015-11-09T15:51:39.029430
[16:04] <plars> basically uuid+datestamp
[16:05] <plars> elopio: I ran the following in a dir just like that though, and it ran:
[16:05] <plars> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Q8q0bEhL/
[16:06] <elopio> plars: and did that work?
[16:06] <plars> elopio: yes
[16:08] <elopio> plars: I'm trying this version now:
[16:08] <elopio> export GOPATH="$(pwd)"
[16:08] <elopio> go get -d -v github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/...
[16:08] <elopio> still waiting for results...
[16:16] <elopio> this one either worked, or it's taking a long time provisioning.
[16:27] <elopio> plars: here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209409/
[16:27] <elopio> can't cd to /tmp/run/3a18d20c-9661-4bcd-961d-41dd43f4799e_2015-11-09T15:53:58.859627/src/github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy
[16:30] <plars> elopio: trying to reproduce
[16:32] <elopio> plars: when I do this on my xenial machine, I get: go: GOPATH entry is relative; must be absolute path: "53".
[16:32] <elopio> but the spi agent doesn't say anything about that.
[16:33] <plars> elopio: haha, I know the problem
[16:33] <plars> cd /tmp/run/3a18d20c-9661-4bcd-961d-41dd43f4799e_2015-11-09T15:53:58.859627/src/github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy
[16:33] <Chipaca> longsleep: that's a lovely test
[16:33] <plars> err
[16:33] <plars> elopio: sec...
[16:33] <Chipaca> longsleep: and i can confirm it fails even with a trivial example snap
[16:33] <plars> GOPATH=/tmp/run/3a18d20c-9661-4bcd-961d-41dd43f4799e_2015-11-09T15:53:58.859627
[16:33] <Chipaca> elopio: we haz breakage :-/ with a test case that could be added to integration
[16:34] <plars> elopio: so the paths are 3a18d20c-9661-4bcd-961d-41dd43f4799e_2015-11-09T15 and 53 and 58.859627
[16:34] <elopio> Chipaca: good. Tell me more.
[16:34] <plars> elopio: so it's sticking src in /tmp/run/3a18d20c-9661-4bcd-961d-41dd43f4799e_2015-11-09T15 which is wrong
[16:34] <plars> elopio: I bet
[16:34] <elopio> ahhh, I get it plars.
[16:35] <plars> ev: ^ something interesting to note about SPI with it's very long and flavorful working dir :). I'm sure it can be worked around, but it has led to several gotchas already
[16:37] <Chipaca> elopio: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1511435/comments/4
[16:37] <elopio> plars: can we just remove the timestamp? UUID seems enough.
[16:39] <plars> elopio: that's not something I create, that's done by the SPI agent, that's why I cc'd ev
[16:39] <elopio> Chipaca: this would need a separate integration suite where we start the vm with a different oem.
[16:40] <elopio> so, I'll add a task for that.
[16:41] <ogra_> mvo, ok,. initrd is back to 19M now
[16:41] <ogra_> and i added a ls -l to the build log so we can check there
[16:42] <jdstrand> sergiusens: oh, I forgot, it isn't actually so bad with the vendor name check. if we have 'name: foo\nvendor: [email protected]', the busname check verifies com.example.foo. also, only frameworks can specify bus-name. so, you and I can't upload 'foo', so even if you used example.com, you couldn't trample on com.example.foo
[16:42] <noise][> plars: interesting - you can workaround for now probably by running the agent in —debug which will use a fixed run/debug directory
[16:42] <jdstrand> sergiusens: (just some more context for your conversation)
[16:42] <noise][> plars: and i'll file a bug to remove the timestamp
[16:43] <sergiusens> jdstrand, right, I got that from the start, but if we want busname to follow something, the conversation is, what should we make it follow for 16.04
[16:43] * jdstrand nods
[16:44] <elopio> plars: do I have permission to run mktemp -d ? I also tried that during the weekend, but failed.
[16:45] <elopio> I couldn't get an error from that either. I'll try again.
[16:45] <plars> noise][: I don't think I want a fixed run dir, but I'd recommend that elopio either escape the special chars via sed or some such, or just create your own (and make sure to clean it up) for now
[16:45] <plars> elopio: yes, you should be able to do that just fine
[16:45] <plars> elopio: not sure why that would fail?
[16:46] <noise][> plars - right, just offering that as a possible temp workaround
[16:46] <plars> noise][: indeed
[16:46] <elopio> plars: not sure either. I don't understand why running ./snappy-tests-job2.sh $1 $2 > output.txt 2>&1 doesn't put the errors in the output file.
[16:48] <plars> elopio: if you'd like, you can just do something like: rm -rf /tmp/elopio && mkdir /tmp/elopio at the beginning, and put all your stuff there... then I could check on it if you like?
[16:48] <plars> elopio: keep it really simple for now until we really understand what's going on
[16:48] <elopio> plars: that makes sense. Let me finish this try.
[16:53] <Chipaca> longsleep: i know how to unblock you, if you're blocked by this
[16:54] <longsleep> Chipaca: that would be awesome yes please
[16:55] <Chipaca> longsleep: it's a change to the snappy core filesystem though, not sure if you're building that from scratch or not
[16:56] <longsleep> Chipaca: not yet, but we surely can
[16:56] <longsleep> Chipaca: wait - do you mean the rootfs ?
[16:56] <Chipaca> longsleep: yes
[16:56] <longsleep> Chipaca: i am building that
[16:57] <longsleep> Chipaca: i got livecd-rootfs with all the hooks + custom extensions
[16:57] <Chipaca> if you weren't, changing the generated filesystem is also no sweat :)
[16:58] <Chipaca> longsleep: /lib/systemd/system/ubuntu-snappy.run-hooks.service
[16:58] <Chipaca> longsleep: change it from After=firstboot to Before=firstboot
[16:58] <Chipaca> longsleep: \o/
[16:58] <longsleep> lol ok thats simple
[16:58] <longsleep> Chipaca: great!
[16:58] <longsleep> so i will add a cheap hook to hack that on rootfs building
[16:58] <Chipaca> for 15.04 that's enough
[16:58] <Chipaca> 16.04 is a bit trickier, but not a lot
[16:59] <longsleep> Chipaca: well, i assume it will be fixed when we switch to 16.04
[16:59] <Chipaca> yes, you would assume that :)
[16:59] * Chipaca hopes so too
[16:59] <zyga> elopio: looking at pastebin
[16:59] <longsleep> Chipaca: great - thank you very much!
[17:00] <Chipaca> longsleep: thank you for finding this :)
[17:00] <Chipaca> and for your patience as always
[17:00] <zyga> elopio: do you have a branch I can look at?
[17:00] <zyga> elopio: that will be much faster
[17:01] <elopio> zyga: one second.
[17:02] <elopio> zyga: https://github.com/elopio/snapcraft/commit/a091059324765cb48807f237a9acccb8ab23fa72
[17:12] <fgimenez> leaving have a nice evening o/
[17:13] <zyga> elopio: looking
[17:14] <zyga> elopio: use $PLAINBOX_PROVIDER_DATA instead of ${PLAINBOX_PROVIDER_DATA} -- easier and less to worry about on quoting
[17:14] <zyga> elopio: in your code there's just one line missing
[17:16] * elopio waits for it...
[17:17] <zyga> elopio: have a look
[17:17] <zyga> elopio: I think technically only one line is needed
[17:18] <zyga> elopio: but I'd apply all the changes I've listed
[17:19] <zyga> elopio: have a look
[17:19] <zyga> elopio: in the end you will only have two things in the examples.pxu
[17:19] <zyga> elopio: the resource (id: examples_resource)
[17:19] <zyga> elopio: and a template
[17:19] <zyga> elopio: nothing else
[17:19] <zyga> elopio: right?
[17:19] <elopio> ah, you can comment on the diff even if it's not a pull request
[17:19] <elopio> I didn't know that.
[17:19] <elopio> zyga: right.
[17:19] <zyga> elopio: yeah :)
[17:19] <zyga> elopio: neat stuff
[17:26] <elopio> zyga: so bootstrap_include instead of bootstrap_jobs?
[17:27] <longsleep> Chipaca: i added a hook: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209799/ - building a new rootfs now
[17:37] <zyga> elopio: I think so, it's documented in the plainbox-test-plan-unit manual page
[17:37] <zyga> elopio: manage.py validate should say
[17:38] <elopio> zyga: ok, I think I got everything you proposed. Now it doesn't fail, but doesn't run anything either.
[17:39] <elopio> pushed the commit
[17:39] <longsleep> Is there any information what cloud-init actually is doing in snappy? I wish to remove it and wonder if i miss anything important aside from sshd key generation ..
[17:40] <elopio> I still don't know if I should duplicate the entier examples_resource section, but I get the same result with or without
[17:42] <mkarliner> Does anyone know if python pip is available on Snappy
[17:42] <mkarliner> ??
[17:44] <longsleep> mkarliner: See the examples in https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/tree/master/examples to learn how to build a snap which includes python.
[17:45] <mkarliner> @longsleep - thanks
[17:45] <nothal> mkarliner: No such command!
[17:48] <zyga> elopio: I'll check it out locally
[17:48] <zyga> elopio: sorry for the lag
[17:49] <elopio> zyga: don't worry. I'm in no hurry.l
[18:30] <elopio> noise][: plars: I think that the result should include a field for the output of the test script. That's in addition to the results payload.
[18:30] <elopio> the only ways I have to capture an error like this one are weird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13209822/
[18:34] <plars> elopio: you can put it in the test result json file, that gets picked up by spi. Otherwise, if it's just raw output, I do capture that in logstash for debugging purposes. Most of your output seems to be redirected to local output files though, so I don't see it (and neither would spi)
[18:35] <elopio> plars: I'm redirecting it to files just to debug, because I don't get what the command runs.
[18:36] <elopio> something like travis, for example, makes this a little easier.
[18:36] <elopio> not a lot easier because you can't reproduce the run environment. But a little.
[19:44] <rickspencer3> stgraber, o/
[19:44] <stgraber> rickspencer3: hey
[19:44] <rickspencer3> I am following instructions here: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/getting-started-cli/
[19:44] <rickspencer3> I snappy installed lxd.stgraber
[19:44] <rickspencer3> but then ...
[19:44] <rickspencer3> $ lxd-images import ubuntu --alias ubuntu
[19:44] <rickspencer3> LXD isn't running.
[19:44] <rickspencer3> thoughts?
[19:45] <stgraber> rickspencer3: what are you running snappy on?
[19:45] <rickspencer3> stgraber, my rip2
[19:45] <stgraber> that's probably the problem then
[19:45] <stgraber> lxd 0.21 depends on a current symlink to exist under /var/lib/apps/lxd
[19:45] <stgraber> and IIRC you need recent-ish snappy for that
[19:45] <stgraber> you could try manually creating the symlink from /var/lib/apps/lxd/current to /var/lib/apps/lxd/0.21-1 (which is what recent snappy does for you)
[19:46] <rickspencer3> stgraber, this core is the latest, from Sept. 25
[19:46] <stgraber> then either reboot or bounce the systemd unit
[19:46] <stgraber> rickspencer3: yeah, which is nowhere near "recent" when compared to x86, that's the problem
[19:46] <rickspencer3> stystemd unit for ldx, I assume
[19:46] <rickspencer3> ?
[19:46] <stgraber> yup
[19:46] <stgraber> systemctl -a | grep lxd
[19:47] <rickspencer3> ln -s blah/current blah/0.21-1 ?
[19:47] <stgraber> ogra_: any hope of getting new rpi2 images that match what we've got on x86? We have that problem where sideload on recent snappy gets us a random version string so we can't use the version dir anymore and current doesn't exist in current rpi2 images
[19:47] <stgraber> rickspencer3: probably lxd/current to lxd/0.21-1 but yeah
[19:48] <stgraber> (RaspberryPi2)ubuntu@localhost:~$ ls -lh /var/lib/apps/lxd
[19:48] <stgraber> total 4.0K
[19:48] <stgraber> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4.0K Aug 17 17:24 0.21-1
[19:48] <stgraber> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 2 07:06 current -> 0.21-1/
[19:52] <rickspencer3> thanks stgraber, that seemed to work
[19:52] <rickspencer3> maybe add a note to the wiki?
[19:52] <stgraber> great!
[19:53] <stgraber> yeah, good point, making a note to update the instructions for rpi2
[19:55] <rickspencer3> stgraber, so, looks like I am getting server-cloud image
[19:55] <stgraber> correct
[19:55] <rickspencer3> that should work fine for running snapcraft, etc..., right?
[19:55] <stgraber> I guess so, it's a clean deb based Ubuntu
[19:56] <stgraber> note that it's trusty by default unless you tell lxd-images otherwise, but I think the snappy guys have PPAs that work fine on trusty
[20:05] * rickspencer3 wishes he named his container at launch
[20:05] <rickspencer3> stgraber, so, I am changing this image by installing things to it
[20:06] <rickspencer3> I am not certain how I make that change stick, or do I have to make an image that has the changes in it, and import that into lxc?
[20:07] <stgraber> rickspencer3: the container state is persistent so you won't be loosing it on reboot or anything. You can then either make new containers from that container (lxc copy source destination), or do "lxc publish source --alias some-name" which will get you a new image that you can use.
[20:07] <rickspencer3> stgraber, is there a simple set of docs that I can look at so I do things right without asking you at each and every step? ;)
[20:08] <stgraber> rickspencer3: outside of the getting started stuff, not really. I've got a todo for today (but will likely end up being tomorrow) to update our demo site with instructions similar to what I do in my demo (which covers all lxd features)
[20:09] <rickspencer3> ack
[20:09] <rickspencer3> basically, I want an ARM build environment for snapcraft
[20:09] <rickspencer3> I wonder if I can make an image that people can easily import that has everything all set up
[20:19] <rickspencer3> stgraber, soooo, I made the snap in the container
[20:19] <rickspencer3> \o/
[20:19] <rickspencer3> but, um ... what's the best way to get it off the container? just push it somewhere?
[20:20] <rickspencer3> is there an easy way to copy it to the host?
[20:20] <stgraber> lxc file pull container-name/path/inside/the/container
[20:21] <stgraber> though I can't remember whether that works on snappy, we had some apparmor/path oddities related to that I believe
[20:22] <rickspencer3> wow
[20:22] * rickspencer3 tries
[20:25] <rickspencer3> stgraber, so, I have the file at /root/zork/whatever.snap
[20:25] <rickspencer3> when I try to file pull, it says permission denied
[20:26] <rickspencer3> and I get an even stranger error when I use sudo
[20:26] <stgraber> right, that'd be the bug in question
[20:26] <rickspencer3> ug
[20:26] <stgraber> I wonder if doing something odd like "lxc file pull container-name/path/inside/the/container - > blah.snap" would workaround the problem
[20:27] <stgraber> so basically have the client spit it out on stdout and then have your shell write it, working around the permission problem
[20:27] * rickspencer3 tries
[20:43] <rickspencer3> stgraber, fyi ... the - > trick worked, thanks
[20:43] <stgraber> cool
[21:03] <josepht> rickspencer3: fwiw, I used scp from the host to grab files from the container
[21:04] <rickspencer3> josepht, ack
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.147981
| 2015-11-09T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-za
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[06:43] <anton> morning all
[06:47] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:08] <pieter2627> morning all
[07:21] <anton> morning
[07:47] * dcbane kicks Trixar_za
[07:47] <Squirm> There he is
[07:47] <dcbane> wake up, noob
[07:47] <Squirm> He's not actually here though :P
[07:47] <dcbane> he's never "here"
[07:47] <dcbane> even when chatting
[07:47] <dcbane> we both know this from the gig days
[07:52] * dcbane noogies Trixar_za
[07:52] <dcbane> wake up
[07:52] <dcbane> >=[
[07:53] <Trixar_za> You rang?
[07:53] <dcbane> FINALLY
[07:53] <dcbane> long time no yack
[07:53] <dcbane> how the heck are ya
[07:53] * dcbane sets the phone down
[07:53] <Trixar_za> Well slightly sore
[07:54] <dcbane> cramp will do that
[07:54] <Trixar_za> I have a talent for falling and hurting my left side these days. Second time in 3 weeks.
[07:54] <dcbane> lean on the other foot then
[07:54] <dcbane> even it up
[07:55] <Trixar_za> Yeah, that might just be it :P
[07:55] <dcbane> you still keep in touch with the gigcrew?
[07:56] <dcbane> including that co wikian of yours
[07:56] <dcbane> forget his name, probably wasn't important
[07:56] <Trixar_za> Only one or two people. I've mostly pissed off the rest
[07:56] <dcbane> such as?
[07:56] <Trixar_za> Bertrum - real name Brian
[07:56] <dcbane> yeh, that's the bugger
[07:57] <dcbane> and who's the other one(s) you still keep in touch with?
[07:57] <Trixar_za> Well, there's St0N3r, D3M0N, Athena and Andz - all people I apparently pissed off. Niki doesn't chat anymore since we're not together anymore.
[07:57] <dcbane> aww but Niki was hawt
[07:58] <dcbane> Andz pissed me off to the core, so gave her the cold shoulder
[07:58] <Trixar_za> Timmy is never online either. Got himself a girlfriend
[07:58] <dcbane> Athena I could never quite get a handle on
[07:58] <dcbane> one moment she hates my guts, the other she's flirting non-stop with me
[07:58] <dcbane> D3M0N is MIA for over a year now
[07:58] <dcbane> even his cell's been disconnected
[07:58] <dcbane> and his alternative-to-searchirc is also down I've heard (but never verified)
[07:58] <Trixar_za> Haven't seen Bertrum in like a year now.
[07:59] <dcbane> don't even remember St0N3r...
[07:59] <dcbane> how about katsklaw?
[07:59] <Trixar_za> Katsklaw also hasn't been very active. Popped in once or twice, but he's mostly focusing on his long haul transport business
[08:00] <dcbane> always did comment he needed something long
[08:00] <dcbane> guess that's it right there
[08:04] <Trixar_za> lol - yeah
[08:08] <Trixar_za> So how are you when you're not threatening to send Shawn to people's houses? :P
[08:09] <dcbane> surviving
[08:09] <dcbane> if you were on skype we could call and I can give ya the rundown
[08:10] <Trixar_za> I actually am on skype, I just don't run it very often.
[08:10] <dcbane> I don't have you on my contact list
[08:10] <dcbane> do now
[08:11] <Trixar_za> trixarian85
[08:11] <dcbane> I know
[08:11] <dcbane> already found you
[08:11] <Trixar_za> lol, I see
[08:12] <dcbane> you're too damn predictable with your account names :P
[08:12] <Trixar_za> I picked it in 2007, so sue me :P
[08:12] <dcbane> how much can you afford to be sued for? :)
[08:17] <Kilos> morning everyone
[08:28] * dcbane kicks isp of trixxo
[11:28] <Vlekkie> Ola
[12:25] <Kilos> hi vlek
[12:25] <Kilos> hi jaysen
[12:26] <jaysen> hi Kilos
[12:26] <jaysen> ola vlek
[12:26] <Kilos> he left already sigh
[12:26] <Kilos> ive been baking in the sun so missed him
[12:27] <Kilos> hi superfly hows the eina
[13:04] <captine> hi all
[13:04] <captine> managed to get irc at work through digitalocean droplet
[13:04] <captine> :)
[14:03] <Kilos> hi captine
[17:39] <Kilos> can someone advise me please. i have an hp nsc-15900 here that i want to scan with. the cartridge is old or out even can one still scan pages
[17:40] <Kilos> ive tried simplescan and skanlite but the red light for the print section is on all the time so nothing happens
[17:41] <Kilos> both apps say scanner busy
[17:46] <Kilos> dont they work without a cartridge in?
[17:46] <Cryterion> good evening everyone
[17:46] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[17:57] <Kilos> hp-doctor command is doing something
[18:03] <Kilos> installing lotsa dependancies
[18:04] <gremble> Hey Kilos
[18:04] <gremble> What're you installing?
[18:04] <Kilos> hi gremble
[18:04] <Kilos> im running hp-doctor to try get scanner working
[18:04] <kulelu88> can anyone recommend a good encryption tool for an external HDD>
[18:05] <Kilos> cryptkeeper
[18:05] <Kilos> ?
[18:14] <theblazehen> Evening
[18:14] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[18:15] <Kilos> sigh
[18:15] <Kilos> device busy
[18:15] <Kilos> sigh
[18:15] <theblazehen> Kilos: What's that?
[18:16] <Kilos> stupid hp all in one thing with no cartridge i think
[18:16] <Kilos> i only want to scan some pages
[18:16] <theblazehen> Ai, that's the worst
[18:17] <Kilos> dont they work without cartridge in?
[18:18] <Kilos> if i run skanlite from cli i get
[18:18] <Kilos> Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address.
[18:18] <Kilos> IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon
[18:18] <Kilos> Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QDBusObjectPath)
[18:18] <Kilos> Object::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QDBusObjectPath)
[18:20] <Kilos> sigh
[18:20] <Kilos> error: This distro (i.e ubuntu 14.04) is either deprecated or not yet supported.
[18:20] <Kilos> The diagnosis is limited on unsupported platforms.
[18:44] <gremble> kulelu88: lvm encryption?
[18:47] <gremble> I think the other one is veracrypt. It uses truecrpyt codebase, but a maintainer that fixed the security issues that truecrypt had
[18:49] <kulelu88> yeah veracrypt looks like my choice now
[18:50] <gremble> I wrote a little app in haskell that does rot13 encryption if you're interested?
[18:51] <theblazehen> gremble: The issues that we *know* truecrypt had
[18:51] <theblazehen> gremble: Keep in mind that the devs stated that the code shouldn't be trusted
[18:51] <gremble> theblazehen: All software have issues. At least there is an active maintainer that is doing work on the codebase
[18:52] <theblazehen> And something seems dodgy with their bitdefender suggestion, as that might be backdoored etc. Proprietary
[18:52] <theblazehen> gremble: True. I'd rather go with pgp myself, or dm-crypt
[18:53] <gremble> PGP is keypair technology though. Is it suitable for disk/partition encryption?
[18:53] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:54] <theblazehen> gremble: Not for disk / partition, yeah. More for files etc
[18:54] <theblazehen> Cya Kilos
[18:54] <gremble> theblazehen: That is not really useful for someone that switches distro's though
[18:54] <theblazehen> I'd still rather go for dm-crypt or something
[18:54] <theblazehen> gremble: pgp? Well, if you keep your keys..
[18:54] <theblazehen> Afaik veracrypt uses keys derived from the password
[18:55] <gremble> Meh. I haven't looked into encryption. I don't have the appropriate advesaries
[18:55] <theblazehen> gremble: I like it as a matter of principle
[18:55] <gremble> As principle it's fine.
[18:56] <gremble> But I'm not going to turn my house into a prison just to pretend to feel safe
[18:56] <gremble> Likewise, I'm not going to encrypt everything that I own and cause myself inconvenience just to pretend to feel safe
[18:56] <theblazehen> Yeah. I used to be into running everything through tor etc, too much hassle though
[18:56] <gremble> I don't need it
[18:57] <gremble> No one is going to steal my blog posts or my haskell code.
[18:57] <theblazehen> yeah, I suspect that everyone important has backdoors anyway
[18:57] <theblazehen> NSA etc
[18:57] <gremble> They're breaking DH keypairs as a hobby anyway
[18:58] <theblazehen> Yeah
[18:58] <theblazehen> Have you read x86 considered harmful?
[18:58] <theblazehen> http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html
[18:58] <theblazehen> qubes os is interesting
[19:00] <gremble> I'll have a look at it if I can find it some peer reviewed journals. I'm rather skeptical about reading random papers on the internet as they don't always follow the most rigerous of analysis and I don't have the time or ability to independently verify their claims.
[19:00] <theblazehen> gremble: This is written by one of the main people behind qubes os, google him
[19:00] <theblazehen> Well respected
[19:01] <gremble> Who writes it is not imporant :P What it says is.
[19:01] <theblazehen> yeah, I know. But having credentials doesn't hurt
[19:02] <theblazehen> https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/3qffm5/intel_x86_considered_harmful_new_paper/
[19:03] <kulelu88> I did find Tomb, but it didn't work on an old OS
[19:03] <theblazehen> even ignoring the security aspect, it's a great review of the x86 boot process
[19:08] <gremble> I have to either start studying or write an article to get a job at the writing center on campus. I want to do neither
[19:08] <gremble> It's just too hot
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| 2015-11-09T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-09-#kubuntu-devel
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[00:08] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/issues/1
[00:08] <ahoneybun> :_
[00:08] <ahoneybun> :)
[00:16] <valorie> ahoneybun: why github??????????? I hate it more every day
[00:17] <ahoneybun> valorie: because that's where I put it?
[00:17] <valorie> why not git on launchpad at least?
[00:17] <valorie> I mean, I know lp is a pain
[00:17] <valorie> but
[00:17] <valorie> github is a closed-source business
[00:19] <ahoneybun> why is it such a huge deal?
[00:19] <ahoneybun> it works fine
[00:19] <ahoneybun> it is on lp, I just need to update it
[00:23] <valorie> well, github isn't Free
[00:23] <valorie> not a huge deal
[00:23] <valorie> but .....
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:30] <nluxton> Hi there - is there a Kubuntu repo browser I can use to look at commit logs and trees?
[09:31] <nluxton> Trying to determine if a particular commit from upstream KDE has been merged already before trying to figure out how/when to get it merged
[09:36] <yofel> nluxton: that depends on the package.. a couple extra packages are in bzr on launchpad owned by ~kubuntu-packagers. KDE applications, plasma and frameworks are in the kubuntu_${release}_archive branch in debian git
[09:37] <yofel> you'll want to look for debian/patches/ folders in the tree
[09:39] <yofel> nluxton: if you run apt-cache showsrc $source, you should see a Vcs-Browser field that should point you to the right location
[09:52] <nluxton> yofel: that's really helpful, thank you!
[10:11] <nluxton> OK, so it looks like this particular fix hasn't been merged yet. Is there a way I can find out if/when this will be merged into the current release as an update?
[10:11] <nluxton> I guess I should ask the package maintainer?
[10:11] <nluxton> (the next question, then, would be how I get an email address for said package maintainer :) )
[10:17] <yofel> nluxton: it would help to know what the package in question is..
[10:18] <yofel> if the package has bugfix releases, you will likely get the fix with that. Otherwise it's up to the maintainer
[10:19] <nluxton> Sorry, it's plasma-workspace
[10:19] <nluxton> I'm pretty much completely new to the way this all works (in terms of process etc)
[10:19] <nluxton> OK, so I could check if the upstream package is set to release a bugfix release?
[10:20] <yofel> right, so bugfix release it is if the version of plasma is still getting those, otherwise an SRU is in order
[10:21] <nluxton> the patch seems to have been applied 4 weeks ago, and the last tag was 5 weeks ago. Sorry, what's an SRU?
[10:21] <yofel> !sru
[10:21] <yofel> is that about plasma 5.4 ?
[10:22] <yofel> regarding the maintainer for plasma-workspace, that's us, so you're at the right place (if IRC is unresponsive feel free to mail [email protected])
[10:23] <nluxton> Yeah, 5.4
[10:23] <nluxton> OK awesome
[10:24] <nluxton> Essentially this commit introduced a bug (https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=commit&h=2870b5e69bf892c3d08df2d8ee11491542e0d796) and this commit fixes it (https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=plasma-workspace.git&a=commit&h=f869daca8244131f6b452e2c15b4dee5903ff768)
[10:25] <nluxton> It breaks my environment which sucks and I have applied the patch manually at the moment to get it working, but would like to know if/when this update will make it into Kubuntu 15.10 updates
[10:25] <yofel> right, so that's part of 5.4.3, which is on our todo list. As we're overloaded as usual I would say that'll take 2-3 weeks to end up in -updates
[10:26] <nluxton> OK cool
[10:27] <nluxton> Is there anything I could do to help? Not necessarily with this specific issue, but in general, to help with the overloaded-ness
[10:27] <nluxton> (I realise that's quite a broad question...!)
[10:29] <yofel> nluxton: plenty! The more readable todo list is at https://trello.com/b/lAVvKdKF/16-04
[10:30] <yofel> best look for an area that you would find fun to work on, then we can see what's to be done and who you should talk to
[10:34] <nluxton> I guess the websites interest me but also packaging (interests me because I know very little about how it's done / what's involved)
[10:35] <nluxton> I've been interested in contributing somehow for a long time but have been reticent, mostly because I don't really know anything about how any of the process works, etc
[10:35] <nluxton> The "getting started" part of it feels a bit overwhelming
[10:38] <nluxton> I can also do some sysadmin stuff - I am a "devops" (is that still a word?) and a lot of what I do at work is both managing server infrastructure and doing things like configuring CI servers, issue trackers, code review tools and so on
[10:38] <yofel> right, best stay around in here to see what's going on, then you'll get a feeling what we're doing. For the website you'll want to talk to ovidiu-florin, packaging would be me and sgclark
[10:38] <yofel> we have a "devop" person in my office here, so it seems so ^^
[10:39] <nluxton> Haha
[10:40] <yofel> talking about CI, we do have our own one for packaging, but that's currently moving so we'll need to set up our own one, every help with that would be appreciated
[10:41] <nluxton> OK
[10:42] <nluxton> I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I do have a bit of experience, so anything I can help with, I'd be glad to
[10:43] <yofel> well, no need to be one. We have people here that started packaging with no packaging experience at all, same in other fields.
[10:43] <yofel> Most important thing is that you find something that you enjoy working on
[10:43] <nluxton> :)
[10:46] <nluxton> I guess it would be a good idea to look at the mailing list
[10:47] <yofel> right, also make sure to subscribe to it if you plan to stay around (otherwise your mails will end up in the moderation queue, which will add delay)
[10:51] <nluxton> OK I'll do that
[11:20] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: you coming to https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2015/11/Munich or too short notice?
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:20] <nluxton> Does anybody know if the "Log notification to file" feature in KDE is broken at the moment? It doesn't seem to work for me. I'm trying to get KDE connect notifications to be logged to a file to display them in my dzen2 bar
[14:43] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[14:43] * yofel listens to the echo....
[14:43] <clivejo> :)
[14:44] <yofel> ximion: coming to munich?
[14:44] <clivejo> I would like to stage frameworks for xenial, is that ok?
[14:45] <yofel> uhm, well, you can try. But make sure you don't push as I'm not sure what the old tooling does when branches are missing
[14:45] <ximion> yofel: would be nice, but I have to hold a seminar at that very weekend (yes, university is taking weekends now too!)
[14:45] <yofel> eeeeeeh?
[14:45] <yofel> bummer
[14:46] * ximion currently thinks about attending FOSDEM - still enough time to plan for that ^^
[14:46] <clivejo> yofel: you seem to have created new kubuntu_xenial_archive branches already?
[14:46] <yofel> riight..
[14:46] <yofel> clivejo: I created the ones I needed. probably some missing
[14:47] <clivejo> how so?
[14:47] <yofel> well, when I fixed the autopkgtests, I only pushed the branches that actually had commits
[14:49] <clivejo> so like http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/extra-cmake-modules.git/ it doesnt have a xenial branch yet?
[14:52] <yofel> yep
[14:53] <yofel> so, what I did initially, was clone all repositories in the same folder. Then I scripted checking out the wily_archive branch, then scripted "checkout -b kubuntu_xenial_archive" for all repositories.
[14:53] <yofel> With that you get correctly set up xenial branches in all repositories. If you then push every repo you should be good to go
[14:55] <clivejo> how did extra-cmake-modules get missed?
[14:55] <yofel> as I said, I didn't make branches if there was no point in making one
[14:56] <yofel> you don't make branches just for the fun of it, because delaying the branch creation makes sure that you get the up-to-date state of wily when you branch off
[14:56] <yofel> you will get errors from the repos that already have the xenial branch, ignore that.
[14:58] <clivejo> I dont understand that. Is the wily_archive branch not locked now, since its been released?
[14:59] <yofel> no, _archive also covers wily-updates
[15:00] <yofel> unless I misunderstood something?
[15:00] <clivejo> no, Im just slow on the uptake
[15:02] <clivejo> I wanted to make a start on staging frameworks with the old tooling and try fixing any problems
[15:03] <yofel> well, do it. But as I said, make sure that the branches are correct and that you don't push your first run until you verified that everything's alright
[15:06] <yofel> (remember that the stage script defaults to pushing immediately, so disable that)
[15:09] <mck182___> I have many packages "kept back" with kubuntu ci, is that intended? it's mostly frameworks and plasma
[15:17] <BluesKaj> mck182___, sudo apt dist-upgrade will install them
[15:17] <mck182___> BluesKaj: nope, in fact
[15:17] <mck182___> BluesKaj: https://paste.kde.org/p1lrpm4hr
[15:19] <BluesKaj> mck182___, make sure you update and upgrade first
[15:19] <mck182___> I did
[15:20] <yofel> wily?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> mck182___, those kept packages need the other packages to be installed first
[15:38] <yofel> mck182___: "kubuntu-ci/unstable" upgrades fine here with indi and Qt ppa's
[15:42] <sitter> pretty sure you should copy things into the ppa rather than make the ppa depend on other bits
[15:43] <sitter> latter is not communicated to users, so that's some serious vodoo as far as non-devs are concerned xD
[15:43] <yofel> I wonder who added the deps then
[15:43] <sitter> wasn't me
[15:43] <yofel> but yeah, I would assume that qt5.5 would be the source of the mess
[15:44] <sitter> it literally coudl be any member xD
[15:44] <yofel> true
[15:44] <sitter> maybe we should change the control structure
[15:44] <sitter> currently all members are member of kubuntu-ci as with all other teams
[15:44] <sitter> might be wroth revisting that choice :P
[15:45] <sitter> it surely happened with all the best intentions, alas, that doesn't improve upon the situation I fear
[15:45] <yofel> you could limit it to ninjas at least. Might not solve everything, but would sound more appropriate
[15:46] * yofel wonders why all the teams have random owners..
[15:47] <mck182___> yofel: I see...I sure don't have qt5
[15:47] <mck182___> .5
[15:48] <yofel> mck182___: quickfix: add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/backup-qt551
[15:48] <mck182___> ooh
[15:48] <yofel> but we'll copy the packages over too
[15:48] <mck182___> woah, now I have even more packages held back tho
[15:49] <mck182___> fwiw, here's apt-cache policy on one of the held back things https://paste.kde.org/pgowhk9eu
[15:50] <mck182___> all of them have the same thing
[15:52] <mck182___> yofel: does that tell you anything useful?
[15:52] <yofel> not particulary.. well, it tells me the breakage was introduced recently..
[15:53] <yofel> mck182___: the output of apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1 dist-upgrade would be handy
[15:54] <mck182___> yofel: https://paste.kde.org/prurloqod
[15:54] <mck182___> though now dist-upgrade wants to remove only kwin-wayland \o/
[15:54] <mck182___> progress
[15:54] <yofel> right, sounds like a missing rebuild
[15:55] <yofel> well, kwin be FTBFS, so hardly surprising
[16:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: FWIW upstream says 1514491 is unfixable on our end
[16:16] <yofel> shadeslayer: all of it? The description says that the xubuntu folks did *something* at least
[16:16] <yofel> the button order is probably fixed though
[16:17] <yofel> talking about xubuntu, we need to burn orion with fire
[16:23] <mck182___> mhh...the plasma-workspace build is one month old anyway :O
[16:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: I think most of it
[16:24] <shadeslayer> since GTK3+ is all CSS
[16:25] <yofel> meh, well. I still haven't seen gtk3+ with breeze, so I'll leave it open for now
[16:32] <mck182___> is the plasma-workspace build failure cause of the missing qt5?
[16:33] <yofel> the last successful plasma-workspace build supposedly was 2 days ago
[16:34] <yofel> after that there seem to be a lot of dependency issues, haven't looked at it yet
[16:35] <mck182___> yofel: really? apt shows me the last available as 4:5.4.2+git20151014.0237+15.10-0
[16:36] <mck182___> which is almost a month ago
[16:36] <yofel> which ppa is that?
[16:36] <mck182___> kubuntu-ci-unstable
[16:36] <mck182___> for wily
[16:36] <yofel> *facepalm* I was looking at the wrong page
[16:37] <yofel> right, 29 days ago
[16:37] <yofel> kscreenlocker is missing in the build
[16:39] <yofel> shadeslayer: you packaged that for DCI?
[16:39] <shadeslayer> yofel: I haven't yet
[16:39] <shadeslayer> I pushed a initial thing
[16:40] <yofel> ok
[16:40] <shadeslayer> debian:plasma/kscreenlocker
[16:41] <yofel> right, I found the dummy
[16:43] <shadeslayer> dummy?
[16:44] <yofel> well, your packaging so far without descriptions and whatever
[16:44] <shadeslayer> ah yeah :P
[16:45] <mck182___> do you guys think the plasma-workspace could be rebuilt soon? I don't mean to be pushy but I just need it for work
[16:45] <mck182___> and screenshots for the release announcement ^^
[17:06] <yofel> properly, probably not. But I guess we can just upload a snaphost of rohans packaging and live off that
[17:18] <clivejo> yofel: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/ is master the old automation tools?
[17:18] <yofel> yes
[17:18] <yofel> it's also the "current" until we've merged the new ones
[17:19] <clivejo> are the ng ones ready to try yet?
[17:43] <yofel> clivejo: not on the branch on lp
[17:43] <yofel> the github repo probably has the up-to-date branch for that
[18:04] <Riddell> angry e-mail du jour https://paste.kde.org/pwem72uq9
[18:12] <sgclark> Kubuntu updates firmware now? my we have grown
[18:13] <Riddell> it's done by the driver-manager thing same as nvidia drivers
[18:13] <sgclark> yes my desktop is fubar atm. Untimely reboot on unstable CI = bad
[18:16] <sgclark> driver manager that no one claims maintainership? lovely.
[18:19] <Riddell> in theory ubuntu foundations team maintain the actual installation of bits
[18:19] <Riddell> but y'know, they also maintain usb-creator
[18:28] <mamarley> Riddell: They are probably referencing the intel-microcode/iucode-tool packages, which together update the microcode of the CPU. However, such microcode updates are transient and disappear with a reboot, so if I were a betting person I would bet that his fan issues are unrelated.
[18:35] <sgclark> so I am reading this Kubuntu Brasil email. We were seriously expected to fix that load of extremely vague issues within less than 24 hours? Something tells me even if by miracle we succeeded there, it was going to be revoked.
[18:36] <sgclark> on a Sunday no less. Total setup for failure. gosh people are great.
[18:42] <yofel> something is very wrong in the power management stack in wily. My notebooks randomly wake up from sleep by themselves
[18:43] <yofel> very, VERY bad if they're in a bag when they do that
[18:43] <sgclark> ouch
[18:44] <sgclark> well rebooting back to vivid as I currently have a non functional plasmashell and it makes for getting anything done difficult.
[19:14] <sgclark> yofel: were you able to deal with kscreenlocker? I have to setup a wily chroot before I can be productive.
[19:17] <yofel> no, I'm trying to figure out how to easily keep out packageset updated
[19:18] <sgclark> ahh. very useful.
[19:19] <sgclark> I seem to be having a bad day, not sure I will get it done either.
[19:32] <sgclark> sitter: I have created kubuntu_unstable for kscreenlocker. Any other magic needed to get this on the CI?
[19:41] <sick_rimmit> Hi people
[19:42] <clivejo> hi sick_rimmit
[19:42] <sick_rimmit> Hi clivejo
[19:43] <clivejo> how are you sick_rimmit?
[19:48] <clivejo> bad network connection it seems
[19:49] <sgclark> hiyas
[21:15] <shadeslayer> sgclark: fyi you can book at motel one without paying anything upfront right now
[21:15] <shadeslayer> and you can cancel for free till the 20th
[21:17] <sgclark> shadeslayer: ok thanks
[21:18] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-177-g6e3f1aa * Matthias Klumpp: (7 files in 2 dirs)
[21:18] <pursuivant> trivial: Drop some code only used by Discover
[21:18] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/6e3f1aa391fc0d3c6f075fd13ca3be65c362a44e
[21:46] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.4.2-178-g528a6b7 * Matthias Klumpp: CMakeLists.txt
[21:46] <pursuivant> Drop dead option from CMakeLists
[21:46] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/528a6b782c2ffc5d3d00e44b8a99a63708cb07c8
[21:58] <valorie> Riddell: I used to get notice of that update in 15.04 all the time as well
[21:58] <valorie> it never seemed to do anything though
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[01:41] <picasso_> pessoal nvidia se dá bem com o linux?
[02:04] <KurtKraut> picasso_, muito bem, melhor que AMD.
[02:04] <KurtKraut> picasso_, Tem driver oficial para Linux e sofre atualizações.
[02:06] <picasso_> Excelente, porque o amd aqui é foda... =/
[02:17] <KurtKraut> picasso_, E jogo bastante com NVIDIA+Linux
[02:18] <picasso_> Perfeito então, amd aqui, fica passando umas linhas nos vídeos que assisto... muito ruim pqp... mesmo sendo onboard, no windows, não tem isso mas estou usando cada vez menos windows...
[02:35] <picasso_> alguém sabe onde eu acho o jodin3? =/
[03:28] <andrepterra> primeira vez usando ubuntu. Instalei a 14.10. Estou com problemas (dependency) na instalação de alguns programas. Como resolver?
[03:30] <andrepterra> E como faço para mudar de 14.10 para 14.04.3?
[03:32] <astroo-> da uns 15 minutos pela possivel resposta de alguem
[03:34] <picasso_> corrigir dependências é apt-get -f install após tentar instalar o pacote (programa), agora, transformar o ubuntu de 14.10 pra 14.04 nem sei...
[03:49] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[09:00] <feiosu> alguem
[09:00] <feiosu> online?
[11:03] <Guest57878> Bom dia
[11:04] <Guest57878> Meu ubuntu está todo em ingles, tentei colocar em portugues não consigo (settings>users) e (settings>idiomas) e nada. Estou fazendo algo errado?
[11:05] <leo__> ..
[11:08] <Guest57878> desculpa.. estou aprendendo.
[11:09] <Guest57878> Seria o Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS?
[11:14] <shallwe> agora sim bom dia galera
[11:14] <shallwe> que venham as perguntas :)
[11:16] <rafael> bom dia
[11:16] <shallwe> :)
[11:16] <shallwe> http://sourcedigit.com/9432-top-10-best-custom-themes-ubuntu-14-04/ ta aí, e depois dizem que não tem themas pro ubuntu 14.04 :)
[11:18] <Guest57878> Muito bom os temas.. estou baixando ele já.
[11:18] <Guest57878> Pra instalar só aqueles comandos que estão embaixo de cada tema?
[11:18] <shallwe> Guest57878, é as vezes é bom dar uma mudada, isso que é bom, poder personalizar, qualquer coisa depois é só voltar
[11:20] <Guest57878> Como faço pra mencionar voce?
[11:21] <shallwe> é só começar a digitar o nome Gues e depois apertar tab
[11:21] <shallwe> ele completa sozinho
[11:21] <shallwe> ou claro o meu shall.. e pressiona tab
[11:21] <Guest57878> shallwe: Aqui está dando um erro (err http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security ... ... 404 not found)
[11:22] <mirqui> bom dia :)
[11:22] <shallwe> merbom dia
[11:23] <shallwe> Guest57878, bom aí o tema não existe mais mesmo :(
[11:23] <mirqui> blza , tudo bem ?
[11:23] <shallwe> mirqui, claro tudo tranquilo
[11:23] <mirqui> blza , isso que serve :)
[11:23] <shallwe> galeraaaa ta quaseeeee http://www.semanadolinux.com.br/
[11:23] <shallwe> faltam meia hora pra começarem as transmissões
[11:24] <Guest57878> shallwe: Aaa blz.. você tem facil o java que eu possa instalar? Porque ontem peguei uns 3 javas e dava o mesmo erro. Desculpa tantas perguntas, instalei o ubuntu ontem e estou perdido kkk
[11:24] <shallwe> dá tempo é só se inscrever
[11:24] <shallwe> Guest57878, tem um comando no ubuntu pra instalar isso, java codec etc
[11:24] <shallwe> Guest57878, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:29] <Guest57878> shallwe: aqui apareceu unable to locate package.. mas onde?
[11:30] <shallwe> Guest57878, como assim? com o comando que te passei?
[11:30] <rafael> Guest57878: procure no google por: java webupd8
[11:30] <Guest57878> Sim
[11:32] <shallwe> Guest57878, segue a dica do rafael ele sabe das coisas :)
[11:33] <Guest57878> rafael: estou pesquisando
[11:33] <Guest57878> shallwe: tranquilo, obrigado.
[11:33] <shallwe> blz pura
[11:33] <shallwe> instalei o thema Numix bem legal :)
[11:34] <Guest57878> Estou tendo problemas com "e:"
[11:34] <rafael> e:?
[11:34] <Guest57878> Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[11:34] <shallwe> Guest57878, faz ai sudo apt-get install -f
[11:35] <rafael> Guest57878: vc parou alguma instalação pela metade?
[11:35] <Guest57878> rafael: não.
[11:36] <Guest57878> E acho que vou deixar isso aqui pra lá.. Instalei o Ubuntu 14.10 que estava logo no site.. Mas vi aqui que foi descontinuado. Já estou baixando o 14.04
[11:36] <Guest57878> Isso é devido a minha versão que instalei?
[11:36] <mirqui> tenta o java que tem na central de programas
[11:37] <Guest57878> mirqui: dá Not found
[11:37] <shallwe> Guest57878, a é verdade, eu uso ubuntu 14.04
[11:37] <mirqui> então instala a central de programas
[11:37] <mirqui> tem no synaptic
[11:38] <Guest57878> Estou baixando o 14.04 já. Vou esperar e volto aqui
[11:38] <mirqui> e no terminal , sudo apt-get instal program-center
[11:38] <Guest57878> mirqui: ok, vou fazer aqui
[11:38] <mirqui> e boa sorte :)
[11:38] <Guest57878> deu o mesmo erro
[11:39] <Guest57878> mirqui: obrigado. Vou colocar o outro agora.
[11:39] <mirqui> então não perde tempo , vai para a versão 14.04
[11:39] <Guest57878> Volto já
[11:40] <shallwe> que legal esse Numix thema pro ubuntu, ficou bem diferente :) ícones redondos
[11:41] <mirqui> numix não conheço ,
[11:41] <mirqui> tem o captiva , os ícones são redondos e bonitos tbm
[11:41] <shallwe> mirqui, olha como ficou meu desktop http://postimg.org/image/n0yru2nkr/
[11:42] <shallwe> captiva não conheço
[11:42] <shallwe> vou ver
[11:42] <mirqui> quer o link para o tema?
[11:42] <shallwe> mirqui, http://sourcedigit.com/9432-top-10-best-custom-themes-ubuntu-14-04/
[11:42] <shallwe> o Numir é o primeiro :) o mais usado, é o que fiz pelo menos
[11:43] <shallwe> fala eloi_carneiro :)
[11:43] <shallwe> http://www.semanadolinux.com.br/ 20 min pra começar :)
[11:43] <mirqui> é quase igual o do captiva
[11:43] <shallwe> mirqui, a bom. legal que ele deu mais uma otimizada nos espaços, ficou bem bom
[11:44] <mirqui> olha isto
[11:44] <mirqui> http://www.diolinux.com.br/2014/09/instale-os-icones-captiva-no-ubuntu-e-linux-mint.html
[11:44] <shallwe> não sei pq mas ta na moda essas cores mais "flat" sabe, mais poker face kkkkk
[11:44] <shallwe> sem degrades ou nada
[11:45] <shallwe> mirqui, legal
[11:45] <mirqui> olha isto
[11:45] <mirqui> http://www.diolinux.com.br/search/label/temas
[11:45] <shallwe> parecem mais caprichados
[11:45] <mirqui> tem um monte de temas
[11:45] <shallwe> a sim, esse eu conhecia, mas a maioria é pra ubuntu 15.04 pra cima, eu usava esse ARC
[11:46] <mirqui> estou usando um ubuntu touch , é bem legal
[11:47] <shallwe> mirqui, legal tb é tipo flat
[11:47] <shallwe> sem os degradês
[11:47] <mirqui> xii velho não sei que quer dizer degrades :)
[11:51] <shallwe> mirqui, é quando uma cor vai variando do mais fraco pro mais escuro
[11:51] <shallwe> ubuntu a barra por exemplo começa na cor escura e vai ficando meio claro, essa transição chamamos de degradê
[11:52] <eloi_carneiro> shallwe, bom dia
[11:52] <shallwe> isso se usava muito no passado, windows, mac osx, ios, android etc, agora é tudo flat, tudo cores sólidas, é a tendência :)
[11:53] <shallwe> eloi_carneiro, :)
[11:54] <shallwe> primeira palestra cai bem o que uso legal :) Desmitificando o Cordova/PhoneGap - Como criar APPs mobile com HTML5, CSS e JavaScript - See more at: http://www.semanadolinux.com.br/#sthash.S3Q2bsxd.dpuf
[11:54] <shallwe> Desmitificando o Cordova/PhoneGap
[12:04] <rafael> shallwe: não consigo acessar a palestra
[12:08] <shallwe> rafael, o link pra assistir está no e-mail que eles te enviaram
[12:08] <mirqui> desculpa shallwe , pausa para um lanchinho :)
[12:10] <rafael> shallwe: não recebi
[12:10] <shallwe> rafael, vixi bom aí tem que ver com eles
[12:10] <shallwe> tem o chat la na página
[12:17] <shallwe> rafael, http://meuwebinar.net.br/ev/9111/
[12:18] <shallwe> rafael, http://meuwebinar.net.br/ev/9113/
[12:18] <shallwe> rafael, http://meuwebinar.net.br/ev/9114/
[12:19] <shallwe> são apelas pré gravadas, me passaram no chat estes links só fazer login com o facebook
[12:21] <rafael> shallwe: peguei aqui
[12:21] <rafael> só tem o link no facebook
[12:22] <shallwe> me passaram estes 3 links por enquanto
[12:33] <elisboa> Bom dia
[12:33] <mirqui> blza :)
[12:33] <elisboa> belezinha, mirqui ?
[12:34] <mirqui> tudo bem graças a deus , e por ai :) ?
[12:37] * FabRic slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large fishbot
[12:45] <sUbMuNdO> bom dia, alguem sabe dizer por que só consigo reiniciar o modem tg 580v2 pelo telnet ou pela wi-fi, e tambem quando configuro nao consigo mudar o ip da lan!
[12:46] <rafael> 3g?
[12:48] <sUbMuNdO> nao nao, 3g nao
[12:49] <sUbMuNdO> pelo computador pelo navegador nao consigo so se acessar o navegador pelo wi-fi, agora pelo terminal usando telnet 192.168.1.1 depois senha e reboot consigo , agora nao consigo mudar o ip da lan
[12:50] <rafael> vc tem um roteador wifi separado?
[12:57] <Lucas_> shallwe: estou de volta.. com o ubuntu 14.04
[12:58] <shallwe> Guest94168, agora sim :)
[12:58] <Guest94168> Ja consegui instalar o java.
[12:58] <Guest94168> Bem melhor agora, idioma portugues também.
[12:59] <Guest94168> Agora só uma duvida.. eu estava tentando instalar pelo pen driver mas me aparecia um erro.. VSF algo do tipo, conhece?
[12:59] <shallwe> Guest94168, sim, o 14.04 é LTS, esta versão tem suporte muito mais tempo, a próxima é a 16.04
[13:00] <shallwe> Guest94168, mas não deve ter dado erro em nada certo?
[13:01] <Guest94168> shallwe: dava esse erro no 14.10.. tentei pelo CD e foi normalmente. Queria saber porque queria instalar também no netbook e nele não tem cd/dvd
[13:01] <shallwe> Guest94168, então vc instalou pelo dvd?
[13:01] <Guest94168> shallwe: sim
[13:01] <Guest94168> e não apareceu o erro.. mas no pen driver aparece
[13:02] <shallwe> pois é estranho, bom se você depois colocasse o erro certinho aqui
[13:02] <Guest94168> Vou procurar
[13:02] <shallwe> blz
[13:03] <Guest94168> shallwe: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block
[13:03] <shallwe> mas o 14.04 é bem bom, eu a partir das últimas versões só uso LTS ou seja 14.04 e a próxima só vou por a 16.04 que sairá ano que vem
[13:04] <shallwe> Guest94168, isso é erro de kernel panic?
[13:05] <Guest94168> eu instalei o 14.10 porque foi o que apareceu logo quando entrei no site. Nunca instalei linux no meu pc, primeira vez então estou por fora de muita coisa ainda.
[13:05] <Guest94168> shallwe: isso kernel panic
[13:06] <shallwe> Guest94168, então vc instalou ele e depois fica dando esse erro certo? não entra no ubuntu
[13:06] <Guest94168> shallwe: Não, mandei ele da boot pelo pen driver e ele já aparece isso.. Não instalava nem nada.
[13:07] <shallwe> então ele nem entra no ubuntu live pra instalar isso?
[13:07] <Guest94168> shallwe: isso.
[13:08] <shallwe> pois é deve ser algo no seu disco, o que tem nesse note? windows e algo mais?
[13:08] <shallwe> já volto ai pegar um café
[13:10] <Guest94168> shallwe: eu tentei instalar no meu pc certo.. e dava esse erro. Peguei o mesmo .iso e coloquei no DVD e coloquei no meu PC e foi normalmente. Só que queria instalar em um netbook e o netbook não tem cd/dvd.
[13:10] <Guest94168> tranquilo. sem problema
[13:15] <sUbMuNdO> rafael, tenho nao é modem roteador!é um branco da oi!
[13:15] <Leonardo_> Bom dia
[13:16] <Leonardo_> ????
[13:17] <Leonardo_> Olá ?
[13:19] <shallwe> Guest94168, e como vc instalou no pendrive?
[13:19] <shallwe> foi com o programa que tem lá que o ubuntu recomenda?
[13:19] <Guest94168> shallwe: utilizei o usb installer universal
[13:20] <shallwe> é esse mesmo
[13:20] <shallwe> pois é estranho isso, só se é algo na partição ou com seu note, qual seu note? nome dele
[13:21] <Guest94168> mas ai que está.. logo depois consegui pelo cd
[13:22] <shallwe> a bom, menos mal :)
[13:34] <Guest94168> Alguem utiliza o Jodin3?
[14:03] <jefferson_> Bom dia pessoal
[14:03] <jefferson_> Sera que alguem pode me ajudarcom Lubuntu
[14:03] <jefferson_> ????
[14:08] <jefferson_> Meu Notebook Toshiba IS1462, não abre a webcam e não ta lendo cd, o que pode ser?
[14:08] <jefferson_> o Lubunto é a versão 12.04
[14:08] <jefferson_> quando instalei o Ubuntu tambem não pegava!
[14:08] <xGrind> jefferson_, ja tentou com o lubuntu 14.04 ?
[14:08] <xGrind> é a última versão LTS
[14:09] <xGrind> talvez pode estar com esse bug corrigido
[14:10] <jefferson_> isso acontecia no ubuntu
[14:10] <jefferson_> instalei a versão 14 e não pegava a webcam
[14:10] <jefferson_> mais acho que pegava o cd
[14:11] <jefferson_> ja tentei de tudo e não consegui nada
[14:11] <xGrind> jefferson_, ja procurou em foruns do ubuntu pra ver se já aconteceu com mais alguém com a mesma máquina que a sua?
[14:12] <jefferson_> ontem fui no site da toshiba e vi alguns drives para plataforma linux baixei mais não instalou
[14:12] <jefferson_> ja procurei no forum mais não deu certo
[14:13] <jefferson_> vou atualizar a minh aversão para a 14
[14:14] <xGrind> jefferson_, faz um teste no virtualbox antes, pra não perder tempo instalando e ter erro depois
[14:14] <xGrind> jefferson_, tente isso: http://www.tecmundo.com.br/hardware/4306-instalar-drivers-proprietarios-no-ubuntu-e-facil-.htm
[14:15] <xGrind> o post é antigo, mas o processo é o mesmo
[14:17] <jefferson_> Ok, valeu,muito obrigado!
[14:17] <lucas_> shallwe: qual o site que voce me mandou pra instalar o java?
[14:20] <xGrind> Guest7393, procure por java ppa no google. vc vai achar tutorial pra instalar em portugues
[14:32] <Guest7393> estou quase desistindo
[14:32] <Guest7393> não dá de jeito nenhum
[14:50] <elisboa> pois é
[15:19] <lucas_vasconcelo> ubuntu consegue ter suporte a 2 monitores?
[15:20] <Dead_Thinker> lucas_vasconcelo: sim
[15:20] <lucas_vasconcelo> Dead_Thinker: ele não está encontrando o outro monitor.. por isso estranhei
[15:39] <shallwe> galera que ta acompanhando o Semana do Linux as 14h Desenhando objetos realistas com inkscape
[15:39] <shallwe> quem não recebeu ainda o link segue: http://meuwebinar.net.br/ev/9060/
[15:43] <PauloBrEs> boa tarde galera
[15:44] <PauloBrEs> estou com o ubuntu 15.10 esta em ingles e ja instalei os idiomas portugues e nada de mudar
[15:47] <PauloBrEs> ??
[15:49] <Geese_Howard> PauloBrEs: já leu aqui: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-language.html
[15:49] <PauloBrEs> ja fiz isso
[15:49] <PauloBrEs> mas nao muda
[15:50] <Geese_Howard> rebootou?
[15:51] <hggdh> e já logged out/in de novo/
[15:51] <hggdh> ?
[15:51] <PauloBrEs> sim
[15:52] <PauloBrEs> quer acessar aqui via teamview?
[15:52] <PauloBrEs> ja tentei de tudo
[15:54] <Geese_Howard> deus me livre
[15:54] <Geese_Howard> mas se vc fez tudo corretamente
[15:54] <Geese_Howard> te recomendo a versão 14.04.3 do ubuntu
[15:54] <Geese_Howard> que é a versão estável
[15:55] <Geese_Howard> pode ser que esteja bugado seu sistema
[15:55] <PauloBrEs> blz
[15:55] <PauloBrEs> vou reinstalar de novo
[16:12] <shallwe> adoro esse Super + W :)
[16:13] <shallwe> será que tem como colocar o atalho igual ao gnome 3 de quando eu colocar o mouse no canto superior esquerdo ele fazer este efeito?
[17:38] <hugo> Galera.. boa tarde!
[17:38] <hugo> alguem aqui tem ou já teve experiencia na instalação do zimbra?
[17:39] <rafael> hugo: o/
[17:41] <hugo> rafael, será que pode me dar um help man!?
[17:41] <rafael> hugo: diga
[17:41] <hugo> seguinte.. o preciso colocar o z-push pra rodar nesse cara!
[17:41] <hugo> tem alguma dica?!
[17:43] <rafael> hugo: em que parte tá dando problema?
[17:48] <hugo> rafael, estou querendo rodar ele no mesmo server que está o zimbra
[17:48] <hugo> quando tendo acessar o endereço do srv com o caminho
[17:48] <hugo> pera ai
[17:49] <rafael> hugo: vc tem que instalar ele juntamente com o apache
[17:49] <rafael> hugo: mas pq vc não usa IMAP?
[17:50] <rafael> hugo: tem que ser zpush?
[17:51] <hugo> https://dpaste.de/dgHH
[17:51] <hugo> rafael, tem que ser com ele
[17:51] <hugo> rafael, https://dpaste.de/dgHH
[17:52] <rafael> onde vc colocou a pasta?
[17:52] <wesleystos> não to conseguindo instalar outros programas
[17:52] <wesleystos> ta dando erro dizendo falha na conexão
[17:52] <wesleystos> alguem pode me ajudar
[17:54] <rafael> vc está usando o servidor web padrão do zimbra (jetty)
[17:55] <wesleystos> não sei dizer sou super novato
[17:55] <rafael> hugo: vc está usando o servidor web padrão do zimbra (jetty)
[17:56] <hugo> rafael, estamos com o jetty mesmo!
[17:56] <rafael> sem proxy com o apache?
[17:57] <wesleystos> W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[17:57] <wesleystos> da ese erro
[17:58] <rafael> hugo: acho que vc consegue o zpush com apache, nginx e lighthttp
[17:58] <rafael> mas acho que não com jetty
[17:59] <hugo> rafael, será cara!?
[17:59] <rafael> hugo: seria ideal configurar o apache recebendo requisições do zimbra e o apache recebendo requisições do zpush
[17:59] <hugo> tem alguma dica de onde posso achar isso!?
[18:00] <rafael> hugo: tem que ser em portugues?
[18:02] <hugo> bem.. não obrigatóriamente, asuahs
[18:02] <hugo> mas jpá achei muita coisa.. mas poucas ajudaram
[18:03] <rafael> hugo: seguinte, cara
[18:03] <hugo> rafael, outro detalhe
[18:03] <hugo> estou com os dois no mesmo srv
[18:03] <wesleystos> alguem pode me ajudar para instalar os programas
[18:04] <rafael> hugo: vc já tinha dito
[18:04] <rafael> hugo: mas as requisições tem que ser recebidas pelo apache para funcionar
[18:04] <hugo> rafael, malz ae!
[18:05] <rafael> existem vários tutoriais, inclusive no site do zimbra, ensinando como usar o apache como proxy para as requisições do zimbra
[18:05] <rafael> é até melhor que seja assim
[18:06] <hugo> wesleystos, qual programa quer instalar?!
[18:06] <hugo> rafael, estou observando aqui.. mas sinceramente, não sei onde está o erro!
[18:06] <rafael> hugo: depois que vc fizer isso, será possível colocar o z-push no seu servidor juntamento com o zimbra
[18:06] <rafael> hugo: o erro é que o jetty não sabe onde está a pasta do zpush
[18:07] <rafael> e pelo que eu sei, o zpush é feito para funcionar das seguintes formas:
[18:07] <rafael> ou zpush+apache, ou zpush+nginx ou zpush + lighthttp
[18:08] <rafael> mas não deverá funcionar com zpush+jetty
[18:08] <rafael> até pq vc deve um servidor web como alguns módulos de php instalado
[18:08] <wesleystos> quero usar a central de instalção
[18:08] <wesleystos> mais só daerro
[18:09] <hugo> rafael, na realidade então, preciso separar o zimbra do z-push correto!?
[18:09] <hugo> wesleystos, vai pelo terminal e digita apt-get update, depois cola ai o erro!
[18:09] <rafael> hugo: acho que antes de fazer isso, vc deve ler bastante sobre como funciona os dois
[18:10] <hugo> rafael, mas beleza..
[18:10] <wesleystos> certo vou tentat agora
[18:11] <hugo> rafael, valeu! a duvida maior é essa.. eu preciso colocar ele separado? zimbra e z-push!?
[18:11] <rafael> sim
[18:11] <wesleystos> hugo apareceu isso c0005@Online0005:~$ apt-get update E: Não foi possível abrir arquivo de trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Impossível criar acesso exclusivo ao directório /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Não foi possível abrir arquivo de trava /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Não foi possível criar acesso exclusivo ao directório de administração (/var/lib/dpkg/), é root? c00
[18:11] <rafael> pode ser no mesmo servidor
[18:12] <rafael> wesleystos: use pastebin
[18:12] <wesleystos> como faço
[18:12] <wesleystos> como uso
[18:12] <rafael> wesleystos: pesquisa fi
[18:13] <hugo> wesleystos, isso mano.. mas esse erro é do seu usuário! da um $sudo apt-get update
[18:14] <wesleystos> vou fazer agora
[18:15] <wesleystos> c0005@Online0005:~$ $sudo apt-get update E: Não foi possível abrir arquivo de trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Impossível criar acesso exclusivo ao directório /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Não foi possível abrir arquivo de trava /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Não foi possível criar acesso exclusivo ao directório de administração (/var/lib/dpkg/), é root? c0005@Online0005
[18:16] <rafael> wesleystos: por favor, utiliza pastebin
[18:17] <wesleystos> como uso esse comando
[18:17] <rafael> wesleystos: não é comando
[18:17] <rafael> wesleystos: pesquise
[18:29] <rafael> hugo: http://forums.zimbra.com/mobility/64061-how-run-z-push-zimbra-jetty-proof-concept.html
[18:29] <rafael> tem uma gambiarra para funcionar zpush com jetty
[18:31] <hugo> rafael, já estava lendo esse link
[18:31] <hugo> kkkk
[18:31] <hugo> rafael, valeu! vou testar ele aqui!
[18:31] <hugo> mais logo mando uma resposta!
[18:32] <rafael> hugo: cuidado com servidor em produção
[18:32] <rafael> bkp bkp bkp bkp bkp bkp
[18:33] <rafael> se for virtualizado, snapshot 10 vezes
[18:33] <hugo> rafael, hehe que tara com bkp hein!? ele está numa vm.. só pra isso mesmo! e já snapshot desde o inicio
[18:33] <wesleystos> não conseguir
[18:33] <hugo> wesleystos, mano.. ta como root!?
[18:36] <wesleystos> c0005@Online0005:~$ apt-get update E: Não foi possível abrir arquivo de trava /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Impossível criar acesso exclusivo ao directório /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Não foi possível abrir arquivo de trava /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Não foi possível criar acesso exclusivo ao directório de administração (/var/lib/dpkg/), é root?
[18:37] <wesleystos> hugo sai esse erro
[18:38] <hugo> wesleystos, no terminal ai, digita a palavra "su"
[18:38] <hugo> somente su sem nada.. depois entra com a senha de root
[18:39] <wesleystos> su: Authentication failure c0005@Online0005:~$
[18:40] <wesleystos> e eu to colocano a senha de instalção
[18:42] <hugo> wesleystos, mano.. acerta a senha ai, depois a gente continua!
[18:43] <hugo> wesleystos, bem provavel que teremos que fazer algumas edições em arquivos... e vamos precisar dessa senha ai!
[18:43] <hugo> wesleystos, coloca a cachola pra funcionar ai e lembra!
[18:44] <hggdh> use sudo. Ubuntu não permite su direto para root
[18:45] <hggdh> sudo apt-get update
[18:47] <wesleystos> W: Falhou ao buscar http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80] E: Falhou o download de alguns ficheiros de índice. Foram ignorados ou os antigos foram usados em seu lugar.
[18:48] <hggdh> wesleystos: 14.10 (utopic) não mais é suportada. Use 14.04.3 ou a 15.10. Sugerido é a 14.04.3. Fortemente sugerido.
[18:51] <feiosu> http://radio.brasilirc.org/
[19:07] <wesleystos> vou instalar o novo então
[19:07] <wesleystos> grato
[19:07] <wesleystos> ou consigo atualizar
[19:08] <hggdh> wesleystos: para a 15.04, usado 'sudo do-release-upgrade'. Depois tens que atualizar *de novo* para a 15.10
[19:08] <hggdh> novamente: sugerido a 14.04.3.
[19:36] <shallwe> não adianta, eu xingo esse google chrome mas na hora de olhar youtube ele ainda é mais leve do que usar um player externo kkk, como não sei, mas é a verdade
[19:45] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: mpv via linha de comando faz streaming
[19:45] <shallwe> Geese_Howard: sim, mas mesmo assim o google chrome ainda tem menos consumo da cpu
[19:46] <shallwe> claaaaaro que eu não contei o uso da gpu pra ajudar, pois ati é fogo, até hoje não consegui ativar a gpu pra ajudar na reprodução dos vídeos
[19:47] <shallwe> tenho windows 7 starter só pra rodar filmes full hd no note kkk, quando quero olhar um filme logo lá
[19:50] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: qual sua cpu?
[19:50] <shallwe> amd c-60 tem onboard uma ati 6290
[19:51] <shallwe> é drive, o 3d como jogos tudo blz, agora pra usar com vídeos nem fumando
[19:51] <shallwe> deve ser drive da ati, não tem outra explicação já tentei em várias distribuições
[19:52] <shallwe> como ele é cpu dual core 1ghz ai pra rodar full hd não tem cpu suficiente, por isso que preciso da gpu
[19:52] <shallwe> e no windows o drive rola que é uma blz, um filme full hd lá ocupa acho que 15% da cpu e um pouco da gpu
[19:52] <Geese_Howard> é, amd não é multimedia
[19:52] <shallwe> Geese_Howard: toda gpu é
[19:52] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: faz sentido sua reclamação
[19:52] <shallwe> hoje em dia claro
[19:52] <shallwe> mas sei que é drive, não tem outra
[19:52] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: estou falando de sua cpu amd
[19:53] <shallwe> a ta sim
[19:53] <shallwe> aí sim
[19:53] <shallwe> mas ta blz, youtube tudo normal, filmes até 720p eu rodo nele, só mais que isso que não tem força
[19:54] <shallwe> mas ta tranquilo, note fraco pro trabalho dá pro gasto, o resto é perfumaria mesmo :)
[19:55] <shallwe> esperando sai a nova geração da intel pra comprar um note bom que dure mais tempo :) sem cooler sem nada
[21:39] <shallwe> legal a semana do linux. só acho que meteram a faca para se tornar membro ta louco
[21:40] <shallwe> eu até pensei em ajudar me cadastrando mas depois que vi o valor kkkk
[21:49] <Geese_Howard> shallwe: qto?
[22:00] <astroo-> ola pessoal
[22:05] <shallwe> boa noite
[22:06] <shallwe> Geese_Howard, 247,00 pila
[22:06] <astroo-> ola
[22:06] <shallwe> olá :)
[22:09] <Guest33959> é.. infelizmente, depois de passar dois dias com o Ubuntu estou de volta para o Windows 10. Desses dois dias tentei de tudo instalar Java e outros programas mas todos sem sucesso. Uso 2 monitores em meu PC e toda vida que inicio tenho que ir em configurações e ativar o outro monitor, fora que já levei dois travamentos do Ubuntu, não sei qual o motivo mas nunca level nem se quer uma tela azul do windows 10. Enfim obrigado a
[22:10] <astroo-> faço lembrar que o windows 10 leva-te dados em quantidades "industriais" incluido video e audio
[22:10] <shallwe> Guest33959, é que nem tudo tem pro linux, eu uso windows pros meus programas :) mas geralmente estou no ubuntu
[22:11] <shallwe> mas quando é pouca coisa ou algo leve eu emulo o windows no virtualbox :)
[22:12] <shallwe> claro que se for pra jogo nem pensar, jogo pra linux não presta :(
[22:13] <Guest33959> Até gostei do Ubuntu.. mas tem umas coisas que são essencial pra mim.
[22:14] <shallwe> Guest33959, a sim, ai cada caso é um caso, pra mim seria mac :) mas é caro pra chuchu kkk
[22:14] <Guest33959> 1 programa Odin, no caso do LInux o Jodin3 ... 2 os dois monitores ligando automaticamente ... 3 o mouse parar de piscar quando estou em um monitor
[22:15] <shallwe> na realidade acho errado as pessoas acharem que o ubuntu substitui o windows ou mac, isso nunca, o ubuntu é um sistema, windows outro e mac outro, cada um com suas vantagens, nós vamos usar o sistema operacional no qual melhor nos convém
[22:15] <shallwe> Guest33959, vc tem placa ati?
[22:17] <astroo-> Guest33959 poe duplo boot e usa linux para quando vais a internet
[22:17] <shallwe> astroo-, eu uso dual boot :)
[22:17] <shallwe> me arrependi de não ter colocado mais espaço na partição do linux kkk, pior que agora não dá pra aumentar
[23:14] <Guest26589> alguem online?
[23:14] <barna_> Guest26589, eu
[23:15] <Guest26589> barna_: to com uma duvida, não sei se vai conseguir me ajudar.
[23:15] <barna_> sem saber qual a sua duvida eu tb não vou saber! hehehehehehehe
[23:16] <astroo-> eu sempre
[23:16] <Guest26589> barna_: atualmente uso dois monitores no meu PC e quando deixo os dois ativo o mouse fica piscando e sumindo em um deles
[23:16] <astroo-> poe sempre a duvida
[23:17] <shallwe> Guest26589, placa radeon ati?
[23:17] <Guest26589> shallwe: nvidia
[23:17] <barna_> Guest26589, driver de video ta ok? qual vc ta usando?
[23:17] <Guest26589> barna_: o que veio com o linux, sou bem iniciante no assunto.
[23:18] <barna_> Guest26589, enetão é isso
[23:18] <barna_> Guest26589, vai no dash (batão iniciar) e procura driver
[23:18] <shallwe> Guest26589, tem um programa que você pode tentar usar
[23:18] <barna_> clica em driver adicionais
[23:19] <Guest26589> está dizendo que estou usando um driver alternativo tem uns da propria nvidia.. vou testar
[23:19] <barna_> Guest26589, lembre-se q vc tem q reiniciar o computador pra fazer efeito.
[23:20] <barna_> Guest26589, Seja Bem Vindo ao Mundo Linux.
[23:21] <Guest26589> barna_: tá bom, vou colocar e reiniciar.. obrigado, estou apanhando feio do linux mas estou tentando ficar com ele
[23:21] <barna_> Guest26589, cola aki q nois te ajuda!
[23:23] <Guest26589> barna_: obrigado.
[23:24] <barna_> Guest26589, instala o xchat ai pra poder entrar aki mais facil
[23:24] <barna_> Guest26589, tutorial de como instalar e usar http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/Xchat
[23:25] <barna_> Guest26589, desculpa, link errado http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/UsandoIRC
[23:28] <astroo-> poe o hexchat
[23:30] <Fulano> astroo-, Xchat é melhor, não?
[23:31] <astroo-> nao
[23:33] <Fulano> instalei o Hexchat no windows uma vez, achei um clone mais pesado do xchat
[23:34] <astroo-> ve no linux se e
[23:34] <barna_> eu uso xchat pq foi o q achei primeiro na net e tem esse tutorial do ubuntu explicando como usar.
[23:35] <barna_> num tenho saco de ficar esplicando pra novato como instalar e configurar o irc.
[23:38] <Geese_Howard> kkkk
[23:38] <Geese_Howard> barna_: que estresse
[23:39] <barna_> estress? eu? sou paciente até d+ com os novatos, mas se posso colar um link ao inves de ficar explicando pra camada, é muito mais facil.
[23:45] <Geese_Howard> barna_: amem!
[23:46] <Fulano> na verdade na maioria dos casos basta indicar o site/programa que o novato corre atrás. Pelo menos foi assim comigo
[23:46] <barna_> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[23:46] <Geese_Howard> Fulano: que bom seria se fosse assim
[23:46] <barna_> comigo tb, padrão #ubuntu-br
[23:47] <Geese_Howard> barna_: padrão ubuntu-br não é esse
[23:47] <Fulano> Geese_Howard, claro que depende do programa né, hehehe
[23:47] <Geese_Howard> Fulano: não, da pessoa
[23:48] <Fulano> é verdade
[23:48] <barna_> quando eu cheguei aki eu perguntava algo, me mandavam 3 links.
[23:48] <Fulano> eu penso que todo mundo corre atrás, igual a mim
[23:48] <barna_> como faço aquilo? + 3 links
[23:48] <Geese_Howard> Fulano: novamente, que bom seria
[23:48] <barna_> ai quando eu tinha tentado de tudo, e jogava a info aki, ai galera me ajudava.
[23:49] <Fulano> barna, e vc lia os links?
[23:49] <barna_> de cima a baixo, varias vezes cada um, ficava tentando até q num tinha mais saida. ai voltava aki.
[23:49] <barna_> hoje eu só pesso ajuda aki quando realmente ja cheguei a exaustão de tentativas.
[23:50] <Fulano> também sou assim, só quando esgoto as possibilidades
[23:51] <barna_> muitas vezes eu num sabia o nome do que queria, alguem mandava um link e dai pra frente vou achando
[23:52] <Fulano> passei o fim de semana todo com um problemaço na conexão do xfreerdp e rdesktop com os servidores Win da empresa, pra hoje descobrir que era na maldita Gvt o problema
[23:53] <barna_> hahahahahahahahaha, passei por algo parecido com a gvt aki
[23:53] <barna_> ai um dia joguei no canal e descobrimos o problemas.
[23:53] <Geese_Howard> Fulano: kkkk
[23:53] <Geese_Howard> gvt wins
[23:54] <barna_> era a gvt bloqueando acesso aos serviços google pra sistemas linux.
[23:54] <Fulano> pois é, ganhei até uns cabelos brancos por causa disso
[23:54] <astroo-> por causa de falta de ajuda no mundo linux o meu projeto gratis tambem e para esse fim
[23:55] <Fulano> a gvt caiu muito dpois que a vivo comprou
[23:55] <Fulano> astroo-, se bem que o suporte a linux melhorou muito
[23:56] <barna_> foi o astroo- q me salvou.
[23:58] <Geese_Howard> barna_: mas como você resolveu o problema?
[23:59] <Geese_Howard> barna_: da gvt x linux
[23:59] <barna_> vnp
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[07:54] <dholbach> good morning
[08:17] <Kilos> hi dholbach svij and all others
[08:17] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[08:19] <svij> hi Kilos and dholbach
[08:19] <dholbach> hey svij
[09:08] <elacheche> Morning LoCos!
[12:27] <Kilos> hi elacheche
[12:41] <elacheche> hey Kilos !
[13:25] <Taufiq_> Hello people.
[13:27] <Taufiq_> Anybody there?
[14:09] <Kilos> hi dupingping how are you?
[14:10] <dupingping> Kilos, How are you today?
[14:10] <Kilos> very good thank you
[14:10] <dupingping> Kilos, I found a bug on gnome-terminal.
[14:10] <dupingping> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/1514288
[14:11] <Kilos> good
[14:12] <dupingping> Kilos, I wonder about when can i get the certificate mail from canonical.
[14:12] <Kilos> mine took 2 months
[14:12] <Kilos> just be patient
[14:12] <dupingping> oh, yes. Mark will send me it before new years day?
[14:13] <Kilos> maybe
[14:13] <Kilos> lol
[14:13] <dupingping> lol
[14:14] <Kilos> actually i think mine took longer but our post office was on strike at the time so not sure anymore
[14:15] <dupingping> And i'm modifying now the gnome-vfs for virtualbox shared folder.
[14:15] <dupingping> the gnome-vfs could not process virtualbox shared folder.
[14:16] <dupingping> So i am going to modify it, so so let it can show virtualbox shared folder.
[14:16] <Kilos> nice
[14:18] <dupingping> Kilos, now your work going well?
[14:18] <Kilos> i dont work. i sit here sometimes and sleep other times
[14:19] <dupingping> Kilos, wow, how to earn money to life without work?
[14:19] <Kilos> im old and kinda retired
[14:19] <dupingping> oh, i'm a beginner. Can you teach me, so i can earn money with my technology.
[14:20] <dupingping> of course, i'm working to make open source projects better.
[14:20] <Kilos> lol im more of a beginner
[14:21] <dupingping> Kilos, oh, but you have good reputation. For example, you're in Ubuntu Membership board.
[14:21] <Kilos> i dont know how the guys here make money, i suppose by working for IT companies
[14:22] <Kilos> thats just because i talk alot and everyone felt sorry for me
[14:22] <dupingping> Kilos, oh, which company did you work in?
[14:22] <Kilos> i was in the za post office 40 years ago
[14:23] <Kilos> then had my own forklift repair company
[14:23] <Kilos> doing diesel engine repairs etc
[14:24] <Kilos> then spent some yeara running farms for rich people
[14:24] <dupingping> oh, you don't need software engineer?
[14:24] <Kilos> lol now i need just rest
[14:24] <dupingping> Kilos, yes, please. lol
[14:26] <Kilos> you forgot to visit the africa channels for a long time hey
[14:26] <Kilos> and you can also get an ubuntu cloak for your irc nickname
[14:27] <Kilos> elacheche hows does she go about getting a cloak
[14:27] <Kilos> i think i just asked here
[14:30] <Kilos> dupingping you can also get an ubuntu email alis
[14:30] <Kilos> alias
[14:30] <dupingping> Kilos, yes, I got the ubuntu email alias.
[14:31] <Kilos> ok now you just need a cloak for irc
[14:31] <dupingping> and also got the cloak irc.
[14:31] <Kilos> oh , it doesnt show here
[14:32] <dupingping> oh, Kilos, I just join in the ubuntu cloak team. And how to use it?
[14:32] <Kilos> can you see the list of nicknames
[14:32] <dupingping> Kilos, where, please/
[14:32] <elacheche> Kilos, wasn't read the conversation, and too lazy to read all that, can you summarize?
[14:33] <how> get her irc cloak working here
[14:33] <how> oh my
[14:33] <Guest95502> elacheche how does she get her irc cloak to show here
[14:34] <Guest95502> oh my i messed something up
[14:34] <dupingping> elacheche, how can use cloak nick name here?
[14:35] <elacheche> Ah! I see
[14:35] <elacheche> dupingping, you should register your nickname.. Then go to #freenode and ask an OP for a cloak
[14:36] <dupingping> yes, thanks. elacheche
[14:36] <elacheche> :)
[14:38] <Kilos> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Instructions
[14:41] <Kilos> dupingping see https://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[14:41] <dupingping> Kilos, it shows me as following
[14:41] <dupingping> ubuntu/member/dupingping :is now your hidden host (set by services.)
[14:41] <Kilos> well done
[14:41] <dupingping> yes, great.
[14:42] <Kilos> yes i see you now
[14:42] <dupingping> Kilos, where?
[14:42] <elacheche> dupingping, you're an ubuntu member?
[14:42] <Kilos> in my irc client
[14:42] <Kilos> which irc client do you use
[14:42] <dupingping> dupingping
[14:43] <dupingping> elacheche, yes, i'm a Ubuntu Member.
[14:43] <Kilos> nono the client to get irc
[14:43] <dupingping> Kilos, oh, what do you mean? i'm a beginner for irc.
[14:43] <Kilos> xchat hexchat etc
[14:44] <Kilos> i use konversation
[14:44] <dupingping> Kilos, it's dupingping, too.
[14:44] <Kilos> oh my
[14:44] <dupingping> xchat
[14:44] <Kilos> you too clever
[14:44] <dupingping> yes, it's xchat.
[14:44] <dupingping> sorry, lately understand.
[14:44] <Kilos> ok in xchat you go to settings and set it to show nicknames and hosts
[14:46] <dupingping> Kilos, xchat settings have these settings?
[14:48] <Kilos> oh my ive forgotten how to use xchat
[14:50] <dupingping> oh, Kilos, I found it. thank you.
[14:50] <Kilos> yay
[14:51] <Kilos> im sorry i forgot been a while since i last looked at xchat
[14:51] <dupingping> yes, i think that xchat is good, too.
[14:51] <Kilos> it will show nicks on the right and chnnels on the left
[14:51] <dupingping> yes, i found it.
[14:52] <dupingping> Kilos: ~ miles@ubuntu/member/kilos
[14:52] <Kilos> cool
[14:53] <dupingping> Kilos: how do you often meet Mark?
[14:53] <Kilos> i have never met him'
[14:53] <dupingping> oh, i saw the popey at the ubuntu summit.
[14:53] <Kilos> nice
[14:54] <dupingping> There are 4 peoples in Ubuntu Membership board?
[14:54] <dupingping> You and popey
[14:54] <dupingping> and two men.
[14:54] <Kilos> no there are more
[14:55] <dupingping> oh, yes. May i can join Ubuntu Membership board team?
[14:55] <Kilos> its just difficult for some to make some of the times
[14:55] <Kilos> so we try have at leat 4 at each application time
[14:56] <dupingping> Kilos: yes, i understand. And can i become a Ubuntu membership board team member?
[14:56] <Kilos> the members are fixed and expire after 2 years then you can apply to become one
[14:57] <dupingping> Kilos: after 2 years?
[14:57] <Kilos> they send out a mail inviting people to apply to be on the board
[14:57] <Kilos> i think i expire in april
[14:58] <dupingping> yes, i see. anytime they may send me invite mail.
[14:58] <dupingping> I need to wait for them. :)
[14:58] <Kilos> the mail goes out to all ubuntu members
[14:58] <Kilos> :D
[14:58] <dupingping> :D
[14:59] <Kilos> so dont just delete your mails. read them first
[14:59] <Kilos> hehe
[14:59] <dupingping> yes, let me try. :)
[15:01] <dupingping> Kilos: just a question. okay?
[15:01] <Kilos> yes anytime
[15:02] <dupingping> Kilos: please think about it. If i have a project and a idea for it, and i have no enough budget.
[15:02] <dupingping> how can i solve this problem?
[15:02] <Kilos> you need to ask the clever guys that
[15:03] <Kilos> dholbach can you help dupingping please
[15:03] <Kilos> ^^6
[15:03] <dupingping> Kilos: :)
[15:03] <dupingping> dholbach: hi.
[15:03] <Kilos> thats what i do, i get the clever peeps to think for me
[15:04] <dupingping> Kilos: dholbach may busy now.
[15:04] <Kilos> yes you must be patient
[15:04] <Kilos> oh ask popey he is at canonical
[15:04] <dupingping> Kilos: yes, you're very good friend.
[15:05] <Kilos> ty
[15:05] <dupingping> popey? yes, he is in canonical. I think that he often meet mark via summit.
[15:05] <popey> hello
[15:05] <dupingping> popey: hi, popey.
[15:05] <Kilos> hi popey
[15:05] <popey> hello hello
[15:06] <dupingping> please think about it. If i have a project and a idea for it, and i have no enough budget.
[15:06] <dupingping> how can i solve this problem?
[15:08] <dupingping> of course, i mean that it's open source project and free.
[15:11] <dupingping> popey: are you in a meeting now?
[15:12] <popey> nope, just workin
[15:13] <popey> many people use crowdfunding to obtain funds for a project
[15:13] <popey> these vary in success
[15:13] <dupingping> popey: crowdfunding?
[15:13] <popey> yes, like kickstarter, indiegogo, patreon
[15:14] <dupingping> popey: yes, i saw them. but i could not do it, because i'm not a designer. just programmer now. heh
[15:14] <popey> There are often threads on reddit where a designer is looking for a programmer for a project, and programmers looking for designers.
[15:15] <dupingping> i think that kickstarter and indiegogo and so on, they are all focus design.
[15:15] <popey> They're often used by content creators, especially patreon.
[15:15] <popey> Some programmers use tipjar or other micropayments
[15:15] <popey> I don't know a lot about this, never used these tools.
[15:17] <dupingping> popey: yes. thanks a lot.
[15:20] <dupingping> popey: can you help me to let me become a canonical member?
[15:20] <popey> An employee?
[15:21] <dupingping> yes.
[15:21] <popey> http://www.canonical.com/careers/all-vacancies there's the roles we're currently hiring for
[15:21] <dupingping> There is no for gnome.
[15:21] <dupingping> i'm a gtk& gnome software engineer.
[15:22] <dupingping> And there are some gnome developers in canonical.
[15:25] <popey> there are a few, yes.
[15:25] <popey> We're not hiring in that department though.
[15:26] <dupingping> yes. Then i just contribute for it.
[15:26] <dupingping> I'm going to modify gnome vfs for virtualbox shared folder.
[15:27] <dupingping> gnome vfs does not support vboxsf filesystem.
[16:39] <dpm> nhaines, o/ are you around?
[18:28] <nhaines> Aww, I missed dpm.
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-desktop
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[05:49] <didrocks> good morning
[05:54] <darkxst> hey didrocks
[05:55] <didrocks> good evening darkxst, how was your week-end?
[05:56] <darkxst> didrocks, crap still can barely walk and today they found a blood clot in my leg ;(
[05:56] <didrocks> argh :/
[05:56] <didrocks> yeah, typical issues when you can't really move… :/
[05:57] <didrocks> going to the hospital to get it extracted?
[05:57] <darkxst> no, just been put on medication, and lost lots of blood for some tests
[05:58] <didrocks> ah, I can something to make your blood liquid
[05:59] <darkxst> didrocks, trying to finish up my gdm3 merge, but migrating settings is a mess, can't use dpkg-maintscripts-helper scripts, since the conffiles cross packages
[06:00] <didrocks> darkxst: most of the time, you can force with pre-depends the orders
[06:01] <didrocks> (not really indicated for general case, but for some special case like that)
[06:01] <darkxst> didrocks, but the paths and packages change
[06:01] <darkxst> /etc/gdm -> /etc/gdm3
[06:01] <didrocks> ah, not as easy then, indeed…
[06:01] <darkxst> gdm -> gdm3
[06:01] <didrocks> or in that case, don't care about the conffiles in the older package
[06:01] <didrocks> just handle the removal in the new binary
[06:01] <didrocks> (after transitioning)
[06:03] <darkxst> well I don't suppose many people modify gdm configs, so just going to get annoyed corner cases
[06:05] <darkxst> rm_conffile may work, since the old conffiles seem to get owned by the transitional package
[06:05] <didrocks> better to handle the transition still
[06:05] * didrocks dislikes when we drop the ball on config transition
[06:06] <didrocks> but you don't really care about the "owning" part for moving to one package to another one
[06:06] <didrocks> you just don't install it in the "new" version of the old package
[06:06] <didrocks> and then, you handle the conffile in the new package, extracting data, rming the old conffile, and filing data in the new one
[06:06] <darkxst> didrocks, dpkg-maintscript-helper is was cares about owership
[06:07] <didrocks> oh, interesting, in that case, you should do it the old way :)
[06:07] <didrocks> you still have the scripts we used some moons ago at https://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling
[06:10] <darkxst> yeh guess I will have to
[06:11] <darkxst> is there anyway to actaully test the scripts without a full package rebuild?
[06:12] <didrocks> just drop the file in /var/lib/dpkg/info and run it manually AFAIK
[06:12] <didrocks> (as root, of course)
[06:12] <didrocks> you can as well opened your previous ar .deb package, and change the file
[06:13] <didrocks> and run dpkg -i directly
[06:14] <darkxst> didrocks, I did try that, and the helper scripts bailed out with "invalid package", but thats less of a problem is I don't use it
[06:15] <darkxst> also debconf is dumb, suppose I have to tell it directly the new display manager is gdm3, right now it asks to choose between gdm and gdm3 (can only guess the configure script runs while both versions are unpacked?)
[06:18] <didrocks> yeah, that's what happen I guess
[06:18] <didrocks> as those triggers are executed on configure
[06:18] <didrocks> and so, you have the unpack step first (and removal)
[06:21] <darkxst> that shouldnt be a problem though, and the diff against debian is actually sane now!
[06:22] <didrocks> yeah, this gdm/gdm3 has been a nightmare for too many years
[06:22] <didrocks> thanks for fixing it! :)
[06:22] <darkxst> yeh, there hasnt been a proper merge in maybe 10 years
[06:24] <darkxst> didrocks, don't thank me yet, you will probably have to NEW it ;) and someone is going to have to sponsor the upload
[06:26] <didrocks> darkxst: I prefer NEWing that reviewing MIRs TBH :p
[06:27] <darkxst> yeh and I guess the NEWing bit is actually pretty simple in this case, same upstream code
[06:29] <darkxst> no one is going to review the merge though, would take them all day !
[06:30] <didrocks> yeah, I bet!
[06:30] <didrocks> This will be more a case of "I try to install -> works -> upload"
[06:30] <didrocks> like libreoffice uploads :)
[06:34] <darkxst> didrocks, has only taken me a year to finish it up
[06:35] <darkxst> s/to get around to finishing it up/
[06:37] <didrocks> heh ;)
[06:40] <darkxst> didrocks, mainly because its like impossible to get a sane diff, between the two
[06:41] <didrocks> yeah, I guess anyway it's a case where testing (and early drop in the distro) is the best that we can get
[06:42] <darkxst> yep, lots of time left in this cycle!
[06:42] <darkxst> and 3.18 is almost done
[06:43] <didrocks> nice!
[06:44] <darkxst> just waiting on MIR stuff for gtk, then there are the few long standing outdated packages
[06:47] <darkxst> didrocks, or should that be Mir?
[06:48] <darkxst> why name a display server after a process!
[06:52] <didrocks> darkxst: yeah, I know :/
[06:52] <didrocks> Mir is the project
[06:52] <didrocks> MIR is the process
[07:18] <darkxst> didrocks, I well know that, but its still confusing!
[07:58] <Sweet5hark> moin all
[07:59] <didrocks> good morning Sweet5hark!
[08:03] <willcooke> morning
[08:04] <didrocks> hey early willcooke
[08:05] <Sweet5hark> didrocks, willcooke: hey guys.
[08:14] <larsu> good morning!
[08:14] <darkxst> hey willcooke larsu
[08:14] <didrocks> morning larsu
[08:15] <larsu> morning didrocks & darkxst. How are you?
[08:15] <didrocks> good, thanks! yourself?
[08:16] <darkxst> larsu, broken... apparently have a blood clot in my leg, but battling with gdm3 merge was just as painful ;)
[08:16] <larsu> darkxst: oh sorry to hear. Hope you get better soon!
[08:16] <larsu> didrocks: good thanks :)
[08:18] <darkxst> larsu, not sure I will ever recover from merging gdm3!
[08:18] <darkxst> my leg however should recover soon
[08:20] <larsu> haha :)
[08:21] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:21] <seb128> hey larsu
[08:21] <didrocks> re seb128
[08:21] <seb128> I just missed something funny?!
[08:21] <darkxst> larsu, took my entire friday evening to just get a sane enough diff, with some rename, sed foo
[08:21] <larsu> seb128: morning! how are you?
[08:22] <darkxst> seb128, probably <darkxst> larsu, broken... apparently have a blood clot in my leg, but battling with gdm3 merge was just as painful ;)
[08:22] <seb128> larsu, good! how are you?
[08:22] <seb128> gdm fun, I see
larsu, not sure I will ever recover from merging gdm3!
my leg however should recover soon
[08:22] <darkxst> seb128, merge is done, just battling with migrations now
[08:23] <darkxst> I can't use the helper scripts ;(
[08:23] <seb128> why not?
[08:23] <darkxst> cause paths and packages changes
[08:24] <darkxst> dpkg-maintscript-helper checks to see if package owns the files, but we are crossing packages and changing paths
[08:25] <seb128> k
[08:26] <darkxst> seb128, really migration is just a mess, but the resulting diff is so much more saner, atleast
[08:27] <seb128> that's something ;-)
[08:30] <larsu> seb128: great thanks!
[08:32] <darkxst> seb128, atleast it only needs to be done once!
[08:42] <darkxst> seb128, or twice, though my git branch from the first attempt last year proved incredibly helpful ;)
[08:42] <seb128> larsu, did you see my ping on friday btw?
[08:42] <larsu> seb128: notify osd icons? Working on it
[08:42] <seb128> larsu, yes
[08:42] <larsu> sorry, conference was more fun than I thought
[08:42] <seb128> thanks, should we hold the current silo?
[08:42] <larsu> and got the log spam issue fixed :)
[08:42] <larsu> talking to maintainers in person helps ;)
[08:42] <seb128> no problem :-)
[08:42] <seb128> great!
[08:43] <seb128> was it fixed in glib?
[08:43] <seb128> or in dbus?
[08:43] <larsu> my (amended) patch is in dbus (just the spec)
[08:43] <larsu> I'll take care of pushing the glib fix today
[08:43] <seb128> great
[08:43] <seb128> danke
[08:43] <larsu> yw!
[08:44] <larsu> seb128: ya hold it if you don't mind watining the day
[08:45] <seb128> k, doing that, no worry
[08:49] * willcooke -> opticians - bbiab
[09:03] <Laney> hullo
[09:05] <darkxst> hey laney
[09:05] <Laney> sup darkxst
[09:05] <Laney> I read scrollback, no need to repeat ;-)
[09:06] <darkxst> Laney, too much crap
[09:07] <larsu> morning Laney!
[09:10] <didrocks> hey Laney!
[09:10] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[09:11] <Laney> hey larsu & didrocks & seb128!
[09:11] <Laney> what a treat!
[09:11] <ricotz> hey desktopers
[09:11] <Laney> doing good thanks, nice relaxing weekend
[09:11] <Laney> good weekends all?
[09:11] <Laney> hi ricotz
[09:11] <ricotz> seb128, hi, afaics bamf doesnt like those two gedit desktop-files and seems to randomly pick one as default
[09:12] <ricotz> hey Laney
[09:12] <ricotz> Trevinho, hi ^, regarding bamf <-> new gedit
[09:14] <didrocks> morning ricotz
[09:15] <ricotz> hi didrocks
[09:20] <seb128> ricotz, no idea about that, it's not different from what we did with e.g totem or nautilus
[09:20] <seb128> but we can revert the GNOME renames if needed
[09:22] <seb128> Laney, seems like doko fixed binutils and a good part of what was stacked migrated on saturday ;-)
[09:22] <Laney> yeah I saw
[09:22] <Laney> good old doko
[09:24] <seb128> I'm glad it did migrate
[09:25] <seb128> I misread what you said on friday and though we were stucked to get x265 and other things through
[09:26] <Laney> no that's gstreamer and other things
[09:27] <seb128> k
[09:27] <seb128> I though we ended up with everything have to go together
[09:27] <seb128> anyway it's mostly good now ;-)
[09:29] <ricotz> seb128, I think I see this with nautilus too, not sure about totem
[09:30] <seb128> ricotz, is that a bamf bug?
[09:30] <ricotz> seb128, I would not revert the GNOME renames, this would break the DBusActivatable feature?
[09:30] <seb128> is that used anywhere?
[09:31] <ricotz> seb128, it might be a bamf issue, maybe NotShownIn OnlyShowIn would be better to differenciate
[09:32] <ricotz> not sure, but it is there for a reason and avoiding to follow the rename might just lead to problems later
[09:33] <ricotz> keeping those old-named files arround is just to preserver user-settings regarding pinned application in unity?
[09:35] <seb128> not only unity or pinned applications
[09:35] <seb128> but yeah user settings
[09:35] <seb128> it's also e.g mimetype associations
[09:36] <seb128> you pick something else as your favorite text editor and then back gedit
[09:36] <seb128> and you have gedit.desktop in your config
[09:39] <larsu> oh we're talking about *this* again
[09:39] * larsu sighs
[09:47] <seb128> larsu, yeah, we alternate between that and headerbar as favorite topics :p
[09:50] <larsu> haha
[09:52] <seb128> but yeah, it's another issue that we never really resolved and that GNOME completely ignored :-/
[09:52] <seb128> unsure what to do about it
[09:53] <larsu> write a migration tool that converts desktop file names in all the user settings
[09:53] <ricotz> seb128, I see
[09:53] <larsu> or put a translation thing into gli
[09:53] <larsu> *glib
[09:53] <seb128> the migration thing is not possible
[09:53] <seb128> you can't know every user config and they storage format
[09:54] <seb128> some apps could have a custom sql database with the .desktop names in it
[09:55] <seb128> unsure what was the outcome of the translation thing into glib previous time we discussed it
[09:55] <larsu> which apps deal with desktop files?
[09:56] <seb128> good questions, I've no idea
[09:56] <seb128> every sort of "launcher" we have in the archive?
[09:56] <seb128> gnome-panel, cairo-dock, unity, xfce-panel, lxde-panel, kde*
[09:56] <seb128> and every sort of dock I don't know about
[09:57] * larsu wonders why he even got into that debate again :)
[09:57] <seb128> haha
[09:57] <larsu> solution: put up a big bug, add all the things
[09:57] <larsu> and fix it for unity only
[09:57] <larsu> others will quickly follow if we provide an easy way to integrate
[09:57] <seb128> yeah, let's stop there, I feel like we are going to go circle and just create frustration
[09:57] <larsu> indeed
[09:57] * larsu makes another tea
[09:57] <seb128> :-)
[09:58] <larsu> much better use of these 5 minutes
[09:58] <Laney> someone help me find the actual failure in ffmpeg?
[09:58] <Laney> 's build log
[09:58] <seb128> Laney, url?
[09:59] <Laney> :(
[09:59] <Laney> it's on → machine
[09:59] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/225504108/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-armhf.ffmpeg_7:2.8.1-1build2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[10:00] <Laney> slangasek tried to fix it but it didn't work
[10:00] <Laney> wondering if there is some easy enough way but can't find the error
[10:00] <larsu> FT_FREETYPE_H is not defined?!
[10:01] <larsu> #include MACRO is ... weird
[10:01] <seb128> Laney,
[10:01] <seb128> gcc -I. -I./ -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -D_ISOC99_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=200112 -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=600 -DPIC -DZLIB_CONST -MM ffplay.c | sed -e "/^#.*/d" -e "s,^[[:space:]]*ffplay\\.o,./ffplay.o," > ffplay.d
[10:01] <seb128> ffplay.c:3217:46: error: missing binary operator before token "("
[10:01] <seb128> #if defined(__APPLE__) && SDL_VERSION_ATLEAST(1, 2, 14)
[10:01] <Laney> is that breaking it?
[10:01] <seb128> ?
[10:02] <Laney> Test idct8x8 failed. Look at tests/data/fate/idct8x8.err for details. make[2]: *** [fate-idct8x8] Error 1 tests/Makefile:203: recipe for target 'fate-idct8x8' failed
[10:02] <Laney> that one I think
[10:02] <Laney> doesn't show that file though
[10:02] <Laney> THANKS FFMPEG
[10:03] <larsu> seb128: that one and the ones about freetype macros being empty
[10:03] <Laney> no
[10:04] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/225502974/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.ffmpeg_7:2.8.1-1build2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[10:04] <Laney> because it's in there too and still builds
[10:04] <seb128> Laney, https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19217
[10:04] <seb128> ?
[10:04] <davidcalle> willcooke, hey, sorry I'm not done with scopes patches yet, will update you on it asap
[10:05] <Laney> seb128: yeah I think it was trying to work aroudn this one
[10:05] <seb128> just disable that one test on armhf?
[10:05] <Laney> so should be disabled in this case I guess
[10:05] * Laney looks at it
[10:06] <willcooke> back
[10:08] <seb128> wb willcooke
[10:08] <Laney> hi willcooke
[10:09] <Laney> good bonfire?
[10:09] <larsu> hey willcooke
[10:10] <Laney> or was the opticians related...
[10:10] <Laney> don't stand too close to the fire...
[10:10] <willcooke> :)
[10:11] <willcooke> I have to wear galsses now
[10:11] <willcooke> *glasses
[10:11] <Laney> it begins
[10:11] <willcooke> heh
[10:12] <willcooke> Being able to see things close up again will be lovely though
[10:12] * Laney is practicing staring out of the window for a bit every now and then
[10:12] <Laney> oh hi HMP Nottingham
[10:12] <willcooke> :D
[10:13] <willcooke> chrisccoulson, do you have a few mins today to catch up re: my email?
[10:24] <willcooke> larsu, I want to fix this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/762349
[10:24] <willcooke> larsu, can you tell me which are the best files to edit and I'll try and scrape an MP together
[10:25] <willcooke> I think it'll be something in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0/
[10:25] <willcooke> and then Radiance as well
[10:25] <larsu> willcooke: yep, gtkwidgets.css
[10:26] <willcooke> thanks
[10:26] <larsu> how do you want to color them?
[10:26] <willcooke> gonna make active the same colour as it is and inactive darker I think
[10:26] <larsu> ah cool stuff
[10:26] <willcooke> I'll get JohnLea to check it
[10:26] <larsu> please use the shade()/darker() stuff instead of hard coding a value
[10:26] <willcooke> got it
[10:27] <larsu> (that's also a bit hard coding, but not as bad)
[10:27] <larsu> imo
[10:27] <willcooke> yeah, makes sense
[10:28] <Laney> willcooke: firefox looks good imho
[10:29] <larsu> Laney: I agree, but that only works when the tab bar is attached to another dark widget
[10:29] <larsu> like the title bar or a header bar
[10:29] <larsu> looks bad otherwis
[10:29] <larsu> *e
[10:29] <willcooke> I'll try with darker and I think I'll be able to get close
[10:30] * larsu is looking forward to seeingthat
[10:30] <Laney> such as where?
[10:30] <willcooke> larsu, will I need a separate entry for the tabs in gedit too - or is there a clever way to do both terminal tabs and gedit tabs?
[10:31] <larsu> willcooke: it's the same widget. If you need to do something app specific, please put it in apps/<appname>.css
[10:31] <larsu> like if you want to select by GeditWindow or similar
[10:31] <larsu> but I'd prefer to keep that small
[10:31] <larsu> Laney: old gedit has tabs below the toolbar
[10:31] <willcooke> ah cool, I think they should be the same, so a single widget is good news
[10:31] <larsu> Laney: I'm sure there are more apps that do this
[10:32] <Laney> I'm not doubting you...
[10:32] <larsu> willcooke: there should already be quite some rules about tabs in gtkwidgets.css
[10:32] <Laney> just asking for an example
[10:32] <larsu> gtkwidgetfactory!
[10:35] <Laney> ok, can't visualise the problem, looking forward to seeing it in action then :)
[10:42] <willcooke> I've tried it with @dark_bg_color but it clashes badly with the main background of the gedit window for example
[10:42] <willcooke> so that's similar to ffox
[10:42] <willcooke> dont like it
[10:42] <willcooke> gonna try again just making it slightly darker
[10:42] <willcooke> larsu, is using shade acceptable?
[10:42] <willcooke> if Ihave to
[10:42] <Laney> I don't get why it's okay for FF
[10:42] <Laney> eyes are hard
[10:43] <willcooke> I'll do a screenshot, one sec...
[10:43] <Laney> nah, I believe you :P
[10:44] <larsu> willcooke: yeah, of course
[10:45] <seb128> willcooke, want to look at bug #1479054 as well? ;-)
[10:45] <didrocks> seb128: quick, assign! :)
[10:45] <seb128> hehe
[10:46] <didrocks> welcome to our new theme maintainer, larsu is off the hook \o/
[10:46] <seb128> we have a new theme maintainer \o/
[10:46] <Laney> muhahaha
[10:46] <seb128> :-)
[10:46] <larsu> didrocks: pssst - don't let him know yet
[10:46] <larsu> it has to look natural
[10:46] <didrocks> ahah
[10:46] <willcooke> Sure! CSS is about my level
[10:47] <seb128> he's not maintaining it, just looking at some issues
[10:47] <seb128> that's fine
[10:47] <willcooke> actually, I'm quote happy to do this
[10:47] <willcooke> quite
[10:47] <seb128> :-)
[10:47] <willcooke> ok, gedit fixed
[10:47] <Laney> oh cool, you can fix the big info icon in hidpi too
[10:47] <Laney> THANKS!
[10:47] <willcooke> daker(@bg_color) is the right one imo
[10:47] <Laney> css theme comes with icon theme
[10:47] <BigWhale> Hello everyone... :)
[10:47] <willcooke> and since I'm not the maintainer then let's ship it
[10:47] <willcooke> now
[10:47] <willcooke> damnit
[10:48] <seb128> hey BigWhale
[10:48] <larsu> willcooke: if you're the maintainer you can even review your own patches!!!
[10:48] <willcooke> \o/
[10:49] <willcooke> ok, that was easy! :D
[10:49] <willcooke> Now I have to work out bzr
[10:49] <seb128> screenshot? ;-)
[10:49] <willcooke> YOU QUESTION ME?!?!?!?
[10:49] <seb128> NEVER SIR
[10:50] <willcooke> haha
[10:50] <seb128> :-)
[10:50] <seb128> just wanted to see the beautiful outcome, going to wait for the package to land ;-)
[10:50] <willcooke> actually, it's not awesome. e.g. the close icons on the inactive tabs could do with a tweak as well I think
[10:51] <Laney> teach this man about the inspector
[10:51] <seb128> didrocks, see how he starts caring about detail, going to make a good theme maintainer, i'm telling you ;-)
[10:51] <willcooke> http://imgur.com/4wB3zIi
[10:51] <willcooke> screen shot
[10:52] <willcooke> "golf facts" were for my sons homework
[10:52] <willcooke> honest
[10:52] <didrocks> seb128: heh, I'm actually waiting for the first theme regressions though :p
[10:52] <didrocks> then, he will get the stamp
[10:52] <larsu> willcooke: was about to mention those :P
[10:52] <willcooke> :)
[10:53] <willcooke> oh, that's odd. The close icon in gedit has no circle around in on active or inactive, but terminal does
[10:54] <willcooke> ok, yeah I need to get the inspector working
[10:55] <willcooke> oh, but only when the window isn't focused do the circles appear
[10:55] * willcooke decides thats a bug
[10:56] <seb128> willcooke, install libgtk-3-dev and do ctrl-shift-I
[10:56] <didrocks> (you probably need to restart the app after installing the -dev package)
[10:57] <willcooke> thx
[10:58] <willcooke> humm, that circles issues doesn't exist on 14.04
[10:59] <davmor2> willcooke: yeah, yeah, blame your son for looking at golf stuff, sure we believe you ;)
[11:00] <willcooke> :D
[11:02] <davmor2> willcooke: oh good news at the weekend I found a non-apple compatible mini display port to hdmi so I can now play multimonitor with xps, will be looking at setting it up this afternoon. One big question though, on the auto detect of monitors should it not ask for the dpi of the monitor?
[11:03] <larsu> davmor2: should it not find it out for itself?
[11:03] <willcooke> davmor2, erm, not sure I follow you, but I would expect it to do it automatically
[11:03] <davmor2> willcooke: from the quick test at the weekend it looks like it was correctly getting 1080p for the resolution, but the dpi was still set to the xps 4k
[11:04] <davmor2> willcooke: so the screen app on the laptop was fine, but on the monitor filled the screen and then some
[11:05] <willcooke> hrm, dunno. Question for Trevinho I think ^^
[11:08] <davmor2> Trevinho: just for the record, Xps 13 4k display, scaling factor 2 set through the Screen Display section of the settings app, plugged into an acer 26" monitor at 1920x1080
[11:09] <davmor2> Trevinho: I'll take screenshot/photo's later when I set it up properly
[11:12] <willcooke> seb128, could you have a look at that mailing list proposed email today?
[11:13] <seb128> willcooke, oh, right, sorry I started on that friday and got sidetracked with other thing, doing that after lunch
[11:14] <willcooke> thx seb128
[11:15] <seb128> np, sorry for not doing it on friday
[11:22] <willcooke> nw
[11:23] <Laney> is that the one about the seed changes?
[11:24] <willcooke> Laney, more just "here are some app changes..." brasero, empathy, g cal
[11:24] <willcooke> I think we should still communicate the seed changes properly
[11:24] <willcooke> this is just a heads up
[11:24] <willcooke> mhall119 asked for it
[11:24] <willcooke> but if you're nearly ready with the seed changes email, that will be better
[11:27] <Laney> No not yet
[11:28] <willcooke> oki, I will carry on with this then
[11:29] <Laney> I'll do the changes this week though
[11:29] <Laney> Hope we don't get some terrid discussion
[11:30] <didrocks> "braserooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
[11:30] <didrocks> :)
[11:32] * davmor2 pictures didrocks doing his best Darth Vader Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! impression with that "braserooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
[11:32] <happyaron> I guess I'll stuck with GNOME translations for half of the week, to get all the submissions processed...
[11:50] <Laney> http://162.213.34.169/html/
[11:52] <didrocks> Laney: nice! you are running it?
[11:52] <Laney> ya
[11:52] <Trevinho> davmor2: unfortunately you can only define a global scale value for apps, while unity can be scaled per-screen..
[11:52] <Laney> just hooked it up in the stack, nothing fancy now
[11:53] <davmor2> Trevinho: right so it is the scaling at fault then :( meh
[11:54] <Trevinho> davmor2: yeah... unfortunately it's not nice, but no toolkit has the concept of scaling per monitor currently
[12:01] <Sweet5hark> seb128: I dont plan to SRU bug 1514195 as a backport, but with 5.0.4: sure.
[12:20] <seb128> Sweet5hark, wfm
[13:09] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~laney/+archive/ubuntu/arm/+build/8279451
[13:10] <seb128> Laney, well done!
[13:11] <Laney> not sure skipping a test is that smart :P
[13:11] <Laney> but thanks
[13:29] <willcooke> argh!
[13:29] <willcooke> Themes are hard
[13:29] <willcooke> well, css selectors are hard
[13:29] <willcooke> Seems the close buttons on Gedit tabs are specific to Gedit
[13:32] <seb128> yeah, the nautilus ones seem differen
[13:32] <seb128> t
[13:32] <willcooke> Using the inspector and looking at the selector says it's a GeditCloseButton
[13:33] <willcooke> so I will put the changes in the gedit css file
[13:33] <seb128> that makes sense
[13:33] <willcooke> cool
[14:08] <attente> good morning!
[14:08] <willcooke> hey attente
[14:08] <seb128> hey attente
[14:08] <attente> hi guys
[14:08] <didrocks> hey attente
[14:08] <attente> hi didrocks
[14:28] <Laney> what up attente
[14:29] <larsu> hi attente!
[14:29] <attente> hey Laney, hey larsu
[14:33] <desrt> good morning peeps
[14:33] <desrt> attente: any reason not to use a socketpair for your dbus connection?
[14:34] <larsu> hey desrt
[14:34] <desrt> morning :)
[14:36] <attente> desrt: i thought using pipes would be simpler
[14:36] <attente> desrt: good morning
[14:37] <desrt> pipes can't do everything you can with sockets
[14:37] <desrt> like sending fds
[14:37] <attente> oh
[14:38] <attente> before i switch over to sockets, do you think it's because the object doesn't implement org.freedesktop.Properties, etcx
[14:38] <attente> ?
[14:40] <attente> like who is responsible for implementing that interface?
[14:40] <attente> gdbus-codegen doesn't generate it
[14:40] <seb128> hey desrt
[14:41] <larsu> attente: it should when you have properties in the dbus xml
[14:42] <attente> larsu: oh, so what about org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable?
[14:43] <qengho> FJKong: zaoshanghao. That is not in hanzi because my input method isn't doing anything after switching from en to zh-pinyin. fcitx is running. Can you help me debug?
[14:43] <larsu> attente: same (but I think register_object() does this, even)
[14:47] <attente> larsu: ok, thanks
[14:52] <willcooke> gtk inspector has black corners as well, that's related to the tooltips thing right?
[14:52] <seb128> that's an exemple of application using the client side decoration
[14:53] <seb128> you know that topic that comes back every cycle :p
[14:53] * willcooke shuts up now
[14:53] <seb128> so not exactly like the tooltip (which we fixed with a gtk workaround)
[14:53] <seb128> but hikiko/trevinho are working on that
[14:54] <willcooke> ahhh, ok, yes
[14:54] <willcooke> thx
[14:55] <willcooke> larsu, css selectors make me sad. In our 1:1 on Friday can you give me a hand with this? The basic patch for making unselected tabs darker is very simple, but trying to get rid of the light grey circle from around the close icon on an unfocused window has me beaten
[14:57] <larsu> willcooke: sure! css is a bit tricky (order matters, but more so specificity of the rules)
[14:57] <larsu> and specificity is hard to grok
[14:57] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, I did a first version, but hikiko one would cover more cases
[14:58] <larsu> this is the year of fixed client side decorations!
[14:58] <larsu> oh I guess I should say "cycle"
[14:58] <willcooke> larsu, I /think/ I need to make the selector match the Geditclosebutton but for an unfocused window, the logic is sound, but yeah, not working ;) I'll keep playing with it in the meantime. It's a fun learning exercise
[15:01] <larsu> willcooke: I don't think you can select for unfocussed things...
[15:01] <larsu> buttons are very tricky
[15:01] <larsu> all the same classes, but look different in a million places
[15:02] <willcooke> I'll press on :)
[15:02] <attente> desrt: why is passing around fds not possible with pipes in my case? the pipes are internal to my process
[15:03] <desrt> why are you speaking dbus to yourself via pipes?
[15:04] <attente> it's a test case
[15:07] <seb128> Laney, can you push your nautilus upload (the bg scaling fix) to the vcs?
[15:08] <Laney> done
[15:08] <seb128> thanks
[15:08] <Laney> yw
[15:08] <seb128> I'm starting looking at the 3.18 update
[15:09] <willcooke> larsu, do things like Ambiance and Radiance inherit from other themes? e.g. Should I be looking for the general button theme outside of the Ambiance directory?
[15:09] <Laney> seb128: keeping the headerbar yes?
[15:10] <larsu> willcooke: no, they don't
[15:10] <larsu> only the icon themes inherit
[15:10] <willcooke> cool, that makes it easier, thanks larsu
[15:10] <larsu> but there's some stuff in -borders.css
[15:10] <seb128> Laney, for now yes, same as gedit, let's see how those go
[15:10] <larsu> if I haven't removed all of that yet...
[15:10] <Laney> just checking
[15:10] <seb128> Laney, going to need to redo the menubar patch though
[15:10] <Laney> because the menu bar patch was the reason we blocked it before
[15:10] <seb128> yeah
[15:11] <seb128> that needs to be redone
[15:11] <seb128> I would usually ask larsu but he's busy with geoloc work so I'm going to have a try
[15:11] * larsu can help out!
[15:12] <seb128> larsu, want to have a look at doing the menubar patch for nautilus?
[15:12] <larsu> sure
[15:12] <seb128> hopefully it's easy enough, they ported their code to the modern ways
[15:12] <seb128> larsu, danke
[15:12] <Laney> HAHA
[15:12] <Laney> that went from "I'm going to have a try" to "larsu is doing it" in about 45 seconds
[15:13] <Laney> ♥
[15:13] <seb128> larsu, just do that based on git, I'm going to look at the package update and refreshing the other patches, etc (based on the work robert did for 3.16 and the gnome3 ppa, though they often comment patches instead of refreshing them)
[15:13] <seb128> Laney, :-)
[15:13] <seb128> there is still quite a load of patches and diff for the Debian rebase
[15:13] <seb128> so it's not like I was avoiding doing any work :p
[15:13] <larsu> seb128: master, even?
[15:13] <Laney> drop all the patches!
[15:14] <Laney> ...ubuntu14
[15:14] <larsu> just drop a random one every week
[15:14] <larsu> I'm sure didrocks could write a script for that
[15:14] <seb128> haha
[15:14] <Laney> oh yeah it's still doing the wallpaper
[15:14] <Laney> :( :( :( :(
[15:15] <seb128> larsu, yes, I don't think 3.18.1 and master are too far
[15:15] <Laney> ): ): ): ):
[15:15] <Laney> backwards smileys are weirdly hard to type
[15:15] <mterry> kenvandine, did you see my poke about deja-dup's no-python2 branch?
[15:15] <larsu> Laney: also, read
[15:15] <kenvandine> mterry, yeah, sorry i didn't respond
[15:15] * Laney reads things all the time
[15:15] * Laney is good at reading
[15:15] <Laney> my mum told me so
[15:16] <kenvandine> i was busy and glanced at the branch and saw i couldn't review it quickly
[15:16] <desrt> attente: transfering fds with dbus is only possible on unix sockets because it is done using a control message that is specific to unix sockets
[15:16] <desrt> for your testcase, though, what are you doing?
[15:16] <kenvandine> mterry, i can look at it today or tomorrow, ok?
[15:16] <desrt> are you creating the proxy sync or async?
[15:16] <desrt> and is the 'service side' in the same thread?
[15:17] <larsu> Laney: also how to read backwards smileys? d:
[15:18] <Laney> C:
[15:18] <mterry> kenvandine, no rush at all. Just wanted to make sure it was on your radar
[15:19] <kenvandine> yeah, that's a huge merge proposal :)
[15:19] <kenvandine> i might need help setting up my desktop for running the tests, it's been ages
[15:20] <kenvandine> but not this morning, meetings
[15:26] <Laney> so
[15:26] <Laney> gtk 3.18?
[15:26] <Laney> ok, no objections, thanks guys!
[15:26] * Laney slides it in
[15:27] <attente> smooth
[15:27] <seb128> Laney, no real blocker for me, I hope the bg issue is not going to hit too many users/going to be hard to resolve
[15:28] <Laney> ya let's file gtk318 + rls-x-incoming bugs
[15:30] <attente> desrt: it's a test case for a library (maliit-glib) that talks to a stub server over dbus to make sure the library talks to it properly
[15:31] <attente> i'm creating the proxy sync
[15:34] <attente> service side is created with g_dbus_interface_skeleton_export on the same thread, don't know if the signal handlers are being called on the same thread or a different one though
[15:34] <desrt> attente: that's the problem
[15:34] <desrt> attente: proxy creation needs to talk to the service
[15:34] <desrt> attente: you create the proxy sync, so the client-side waits until the service responds
[15:35] <desrt> meanwhile, the service can't respond until the mainloop runs, which it can't do because you're doing a sync wait
[15:35] <desrt> put the service in a thread
[15:38] <larsu> or don't do sync operations..
[15:38] <desrt> in a testcase?
[15:39] <larsu> sure, why not?
[15:39] <desrt> because sync is easier and it's just a testcase
[15:39] <larsu> putting it in a thread sounds like it will bring more problems later ;)
[15:40] <desrt> imho if you want to have a service in the same process as a client, for testing purposes, it only makes sense that it would be in a separate thread
[15:40] <desrt> rather than the two things constantly having to dance around each other in the same maincontext
[15:41] <larsu> should work fine though, shouldn't it?
[15:42] <desrt> as long as you constantly sprinkle your code with (run the mainloop for a while) sections complete with termination conditions
[15:42] <desrt> the way people write tests isn't normally event driven
[15:43] <desrt> it's "do this, then this, then this"
[15:43] <desrt> it's not particularly well suited to async, unless you're writing in vala or something like that
[15:43] <desrt> also: i'm not even sure if this is really the problem. it just sounds like it.
[15:44] <larsu> well sure, it won't work if you do everything sync
[15:44] <larsu> in that case threads do make more sense
[15:44] <larsu> and probably you're right - in a test case this is easier
[15:48] * desrt cleans up the glib inline mess once and for all
[15:57] <didrocks> larsu: what this script being in nodejs, dart, go?
[16:02] <larsu> didrocks: your choice ;)
[16:03] <didrocks> \o/
[16:03] * didrocks does it in perl then
[16:03] <didrocks> (j/k)
[16:03] <didrocks> well… https://metacpan.org/release/Git-Raw
[16:04] <larsu> didrocks: you've been pulled off this project. Effective immediately
[16:04] <larsu> don't even joke about doing stuff in perl
[16:04] <didrocks> :)
[16:04] <didrocks> I'll know next time I don't want to work on something
[16:04] <didrocks> just threat doing it in perl!
[16:05] <larsu> !
[16:10] <attente> how do i ensure the signal handlers are called in my new thread and not the main one?
[16:10] <larsu> attente: from gdbusproxy? They're called in the thread you create the proxy in
[16:12] <attente> larsu: so i have to create the proxy in a separate thread? it's not enough to create the server in a separate thread?
[16:12] * attente doesn't know this stuff...
[16:17] <larsu> attente: wait. what?
[16:18] <larsu> you create the server in a thread, and create the proxy (which points to the server?) in the main thread?
[16:22] <larsu> brb
[16:24] <attente> oh i need two non-main threads?
[16:38] <larsu> attente: don't know what you talked about with desrt, but I'd assume you only need the one for the service and do the rest from the main thread
[16:45] <attente> :(
[16:56] * Laney 's fingers slipped
[16:57] * Laney is off to catch a train - ttyl!
[17:02] <didrocks> see you Laney!
[17:03] <didrocks> and see you guys, time to go off!
[17:39] <willcooke> Trevinho, andyrock, hikiko-lpt - I'd like to have our first Agile sprint planning and kick off this week. andyrock is there a morning which works better for you this week?
[17:40] <willcooke> Wednesday morning is pretty good for me
[17:41] <Trevinho> willcooke: that's fine as well, not sure about andyrock (who maybe prefers afternoon)
[17:46] <hikiko-lpt> hello I just arrived home
[17:47] <hikiko-lpt> fosscomm :d
[17:47] <hikiko-lpt> wednesday is fine for me as well :)
[17:51] <seb128> hum
[17:51] <seb128> what cursor themes are using other distributions?
[17:52] <seb128> gedit throws warnings because we don't have "progress" and "text" in our default one, but it seems the other installed ones on Ubuntu also don't have those
[18:09] <willcooke> ok, I think I've just made my first ever MP
[18:10] <willcooke> larsu, it's trivial I know, and I should wait until I've got all my fixes in
[18:10] <willcooke> but I wanted to see if I could work out how to do it
[18:11] <willcooke> so feel free to reject or whatever
[18:21] <willcooke> oh, so I have to link to a bug at commit time
[18:23] <seb128> you can do that with --fixes lp:<nnn>
[18:24] <willcooke> but only at commit time?
[18:25] <seb128> you can do it on launchpad then
[18:25] <seb128> like add a branch to the bug
[18:25] <seb128> the commit in bzr log isn't going to have the bug reference if you do that
[18:25] <seb128> but it's good enough for the CI to have the reference in the changelog etc
[18:27] <willcooke> oki, I'll delete it and do it properly
[18:28] <seb128> you can "bzr uncommit" and then commit again
[18:28] <seb128> and then push --overwrite
[18:33] <willcooke> cool, thanks seb
[18:36] <seb128> yw!
[18:49] <larsu> willcooke: congrats! Off to a pub in a bit - will have a look in the morning
[20:12] <willcooke> Trevinho, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1493607 <-- fixed right?
[20:12] <willcooke> I can close it if yes
[20:13] <Trevinho> willcooke: yep
[20:13] <willcooke> thx Trevinho
[20:13] <willcooke> done
[21:12] <willcooke> oh
[21:12] <willcooke> Hrm
[21:13] <willcooke> I thought that once I'd put up a branch for review then I would be free to continue working in that branch on other things and commit further changes to other bugs
[21:14] <willcooke> but it rather looks like the branch I put up for review earlier now includes a fix to the Gtk2 theme
[21:14] <willcooke> larsu, I've asked John Lea to ack the changes so please hold off for his OK before accepting. Or if you want to reject, then you don't need to wait :)
[21:18] <willcooke> robert_ancell, when PS Jenkins Bot said "Needs Fixing" - how do I find out why it thinks that?
[21:18] <robert_ancell> willcooke, it should say in a comment
[21:19] <robert_ancell> what is the MP?
[21:19] <willcooke> ahhh
[21:19] <willcooke> I see
[21:19] <willcooke> thanks
[21:19] <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/ubuntu-themes/+merge/277043
[21:21] <robert_ancell> willcooke, yeah, the commit message missing - I thought so. That one is a bit confusing.
[21:21] <willcooke> Yeah, because I certainly had a message
[21:23] * Sweet5hark fixed 10 crashing race conditions today.
[21:23] <willcooke> \o/
[21:24] * Sweet5hark now comfortably feels yoda speaking.
[21:27] <willcooke> right ho, quittin' time. G'night all
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2015-11-09-#xubuntu-devel
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[08:34] <flocculant> jjfrv8: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+filebug make sure testcase id# is there somewhere :)
[11:41] <bluesabre> hey flocculant
[13:09] <flocculant> hi bluesabre
[13:22] <jjfrv8> flocculant, bug 1514417 opened and merge proposal submitted.
[13:22] <jjfrv8> I forgot to link the bug to the MP :(
[13:28] <flocculant> jjfrv8: thanks jjfrv8 - I linked it - approved it - merged it - updated tracker
[13:29] <jjfrv8> :D
[13:30] <flocculant> jjfrv8: big thanks - so much better when someone does the fiddling first :p
[13:32] <jjfrv8> now if I can just remember which settings I've screwed up before I file bugs :|
[13:32] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[13:33] <flocculant> why do think I've got about 6 billion vm's in different states :D
[13:35] <akxwi_dave> lol not just me then.. :-)
[13:37] <knome> for anybody interested, the tracker code is now in a branch under the website project in LP
[13:37] <knome> Unit193, pleia2, bluesabre, ochosi: ^
[13:38] <flocculant> nice :)
[13:39] <flocculant> even nicer if the one who turned up the other day wanting to help does that :)
[13:52] <akxwi_dave> knome : Nice bit of coding there.. :-)
[14:23] <knome> akxwi_dave, ta
[14:23] <knome> ok, time to go grocery shopping
[14:23] <knome> hf
[14:27] <akxwi_dave> enjoy...
[14:28] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: was talking to someone the other day - who was a bit all at sea with testing
[14:29] <flocculant> suggestion was running a session for people - wonder if you'd like to take that as a work item to set up and advertise for us
[14:29] <flocculant> you can use the social media stuffs
[14:29] <flocculant> I'd suggest an irc session - people can connect easily via the tracker
[14:39] <akxwi_dave> Yep, I can do...
[14:39] <flocculant> excellent - just shout when you need something :)
[14:39] <akxwi_dave> will do.. I'll get some ideas set up and let you know.
[15:26] <akxwi_dave> When are we wanting to start testing in situe upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[15:38] <flocculant> akxwi_dave: I'd not point people at that till at least a beta
[15:39] <akxwi_dave> No worries, was thinking more about myself for the testing
[15:39] <flocculant> if someone's brave enough or foolhardy enough to do it - then I'd not stop them
[15:39] <flocculant> but currently we're really half and half
[15:55] <akxwi_dave> :-)
[17:58] <pleia2> knome: thanks re: tracker, I don't even remember how we got it put on the server XD
[20:51] <knome> pleia2, i pushed it :P
[20:52] <knome> pleia2, it *should* be safe now to pull the branch there on updates too, configuration files have only examples on tracker
[21:00] <flocculant> evening knome
[21:03] <knome> hey flocculant
[21:04] <flocculant> I even looked at the tracker stuff :p
[21:05] <flocculant> just looked you understand ;)
[21:06] <knome> ;)
[21:08] <flocculant> one thing to try and get my head around is enough
[21:09] <knome> heh
[21:12] <slickyma1ter> knome, ack the automatic translations export
[21:12] <flocculant> hi slickyma1ter
[21:12] <slickyma1ter> hey flocculant
[21:23] <slickyma1ter> krytarik, go ahead and change those two directories names
[21:23] <slickyma1ter> it makes perfect sense
[21:23] <slickyma1ter> knome ^^
[21:28] <ochosi> evening all
[21:28] <slickymaster> hey ochosi
[21:29] <flocculant> hi ochosi
[21:29] <ochosi> how're things?
[21:29] <flocculant> good here
[21:30] <ochosi> jjfrv8: thanks - an update for xfpm 1.4.4 would be very welcome indeed! (although the changes shouldn't be too dramatic)
[21:43] <knome> slickymaster, ack
[21:44] <slickymaster> will you be around tomorrow knome?
[21:44] <knome> mm, at some point of the day or evening, yes
[21:45] <slickymaster> I'll ping then. I was thinking that we could have a talk about the ubiquity translations
[21:46] <knome> or we can have it today if you have time
[21:46] <slickymaster> little one is with me, today knome
[21:46] <slickymaster> and it's about time to start the all bed time fight
[21:47] <slickymaster> and tbh I'm a bit tired also
[21:47] <knome> lol
[21:47] <knome> good luck then
[21:48] <slickymaster> thanks knome
[22:14] <flocculant> knome: any thoughts on when we'll get the contributor docs live?
[22:15] <knome> pleia2, ping
[22:19] <flocculant> ochosi: any thoughts on getting the poll done before the next meeting?
[22:19] <flocculant> knome: one more :P
[22:20] <knome> yes?
[22:20] <flocculant> so if we're not doing team updates anymore in a meeting
[22:20] <knome> yep
[22:20] <flocculant> what do we do about people wanting to tell things in the meetings?
[22:20] <knome> they can tell them in the updates section
[22:20] <knome> let me explain the idea once more
[22:21] <knome> the "team updates" part i wanted to drop was the mechanical copy-paste of done work items into the meeting
[22:21] <flocculant> so still doing updates - just not blurbing what's a bp task?
[22:21] <knome> because now with the tracker, they are there already
[22:21] <knome> and sure, if any of those items affect many people, it's probably a good idea to tell you did that
[22:21] <flocculant> yep - that was what I thought - just making sure
[22:21] <knome> or if you need comments
[22:22] <flocculant> oic the meeting page has changed
[22:22] <knome> and yes, we can/should still do updates if they are relevant past the "this work item is done" level
[22:22] <knome> so the idea was not to stop people from doing any communication
[22:22] <knome> but to save their time in having to collect these mechanical updates
[22:23] <flocculant> don't know if you caught the backlog - akxwi is going to set up a session in here for 'testers'
[22:23] <knome> and instead let them have a bit more time to update them in the blueprints
[22:23] <flocculant> yep
[22:23] <knome> where they are always live
[22:23] <knome> well, at least ideally live
[22:23] <flocculant> yea :)
[22:23] <knome> re: session, that must have slipped
[22:23] <flocculant> been trying to put task things on there - even if I then mark it done
[22:23] <knome> yeo
[22:24] <knome> yep*
[22:24] <flocculant> knome: yea - someone was talking to me the other night about that
[22:24] <knome> and then if you think what is relevant for a BP work item or not
[22:24] <flocculant> yea
[22:24] <knome> i think the line is about "if it's something people outside team might be interested or it might affect them, it's suitable for a work item"
[22:25] <knome> and yeah, i just added an item that was straight done today - the tracker code being in a branch
[22:25] <flocculant> I've been putting testcase bugs on mine - if for no other reason that it's easy to see what's going on internally
[22:25] <knome> yep
[22:26] <knome> i haven't noticed that the amount of work items would have been too big yet to actually find what you are looking for
[22:26] <knome> once we have 3000 items, then we might be off the rails...
[22:26] <flocculant> yep :D
[22:26] <knome> but yeah, listing more stuff there isn't a bad idea
[22:26] <flocculant> and really really tired too
[22:26] <knome> at the end of the cycle it also provides as a list on who did what
[22:26] <knome> and a place for personal evaluation as well
[22:27] <flocculant> yea I guess so
[22:27] <flocculant> for those that would do that
[22:27] <knome> i mean i do look at a cycles BPs and see what i have accomplished in the last 6 months
[22:27] <flocculant> yep
[22:27] <flocculant> what you do is different to last cycle :)
[22:27] <knome> and think whether my time contribution was in level with that
[22:28] <flocculant> what qa does is re-rinse
[22:28] <knome> or if i should start using less time but be more effective when i do work on stuff
[22:28] <flocculant> yea
[22:28] <knome> and also if i met enough of the goals set
[22:28] <flocculant> tracker is certainly a really useful tool
[22:28] <knome> usually 10-20% of the work items on a team level are left undone
[22:29] <flocculant> right
[22:29] <knome> so if i personally hit that level, i guess i've done well enough
[22:29] <flocculant> :)
[22:29] <knome> but yeah, there are a lot of good things in tracking
[22:29] <knome> and i'm kind of happy that we built our own
[22:30] <flocculant> I think it's awesome tbh
[22:30] * knome bows
[22:30] <flocculant> kudos :)
[22:30] <knome> i like the event markers in the burndown
[22:30] <knome> they are more useful than you might think
[22:30] <flocculant> and I don't even remember now what it was that I was missing :D
[22:31] <knome> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-v/group/topic-v-flavor-xubuntu.html
[22:31] <flocculant> I find them useful - if no more than a visual cue that a milestone is soon
[22:31] <knome> yep
[22:31] <ochosi> knome: oh right, thanks for the reminder. i'll try to set something meaningful up asap
[22:31] <ochosi> just have been really busy at work and at home
[22:31] <knome> ochosi, i think you mean flocculant
[22:31] <flocculant> :)
[22:31] <flocculant> cos I had that annoying itch :D
[22:32] <ochosi> oh well, there you go, sleep deprivation
[22:32] <flocculant> ochosi: if it helps I'm off all week and could do it if you wanted :)
[22:32] <ochosi> oh, actually that'd be great. let me quickly take a peek at that spec again..
[22:33] <flocculant> ochosi: and after 26 years - I am just getting out of that deprivation cycle :p
[22:33] * knome looks at the v status page, notes the amount of work items per person and sighs
[22:33] <flocculant> tomorrow \o/
[22:33] <ochosi> well, lucky you... :)
[22:33] <flocculant> :)
[22:34] <flocculant> last one hits 16 tomorrow
[22:34] <knome> cool, congrats
[22:35] <ochosi> hehe
[22:35] <ochosi> nice
[22:35] <ochosi> flocculant: so yeah, that page looks right. please just make sure that you mention that there's no "Option C: Advocate your player of choice from the list on that page" in the poll text
[22:36] <ochosi> i'd prefer to avoid that, and frankly, having that list on that page somehow suggests that
[22:36] <flocculant> ochosi: I could edit
[22:37] <flocculant> build new page and just have it on the choice page as a link
[22:37] <ochosi> yeah, or use the old W page as a reference there
[22:37] <flocculant> that said I will probably doodle poll it - and it will just be A or B
[22:37] <flocculant> with the link
[22:37] <ochosi> oh ok, so no mailinglist?
[22:37] <ochosi> but the doodle doesn't allow for real authentication, right?
[22:38] * ochosi hasn't doodled much in his time
[22:38] <knome> i would go with ML, it's then archived forever there
[22:38] <flocculant> well
[22:38] <flocculant> I really didn't want to ml it
[22:39] <knome> ;)
[22:39] <flocculant> but will if I had to
[22:39] <flocculant> I could do it with condorcet :D
[22:39] <knome> i won't force anybody to do that if they don't want to, but i would say it would be the simplest
[22:39] <knome> and the archival thing is great, then we don't rely on anybody else keeping the data up
[22:39] <flocculant> simplest to run yea :D
[22:39] <flocculant> I guess so
[22:39] <knome> and isn't too hard to figure out the results either
[22:39] <knome> it's 14 people at max voting
[22:40] <knome> one of them being you :P
[22:40] <flocculant> yea
[22:40] <flocculant> oh noes
[22:40] <flocculant> that tips me over the balance ...
[22:40] <knome> oops, did i just talk you into it :P
[22:40] <flocculant> can count to 13 with some forks :p
[22:40] <knome> yup
[22:41] <knome> and you can use your legs too!
[22:41] <flocculant> all three?
[22:41] <knome> :X
[22:41] <knome> i didn't say that!
[22:42] <flocculant> :)
[22:46] <flocculant> ochosi: I'll get that sorted out tomorrow then - do you want to see before I send it to list?
[22:48] <ochosi> flocculant: nah, that's ok, i trust you with that
[22:48] <flocculant> okey doke :)
[22:48] <knome> ochosi, MISTAKE
[22:48] * knome hides
[22:48] <flocculant> too late
[22:48] <flocculant> in the logs :p
[22:49] <ochosi> and also, i don't take these "default application xy" things as serious anymore as i used to
[22:49] <flocculant> :)
[22:49] <ochosi> i mean yeah, it's good to have good defaults
[22:49] <flocculant> ochosi: LO took it out of you did it?
[22:49] <flocculant> did me :p
[22:49] <ochosi> but especially with this one, there is no pleasing people
[22:49] <flocculant> yea for sure
[22:49] <flocculant> the only way I could be pleased would be if we QT'd
[22:50] <flocculant> personally ofc
[22:50] <ochosi> LO might actually be for the better, i think it's useful for many and the alternatives were bug-plagued and not comparable feature-wise
[22:50] <flocculant> yea
[22:50] <ochosi> yeah, well, meh :)
[22:50] <flocculant> I think that was wise all in all
[22:50] <flocculant> ha :)
[22:50] <ochosi> we already have FF and LO which don't use our toolkit
[22:50] <flocculant> yep
[22:50] <ochosi> let's not go overboard on that one
[22:51] <flocculant> ochosi: ha ha ha
[22:51] <ochosi> ;)
[22:52] <flocculant> I might argue personally that if you want to use foo then do so - but I'd not argue that point for Xubuntu :)
[22:52] <flocculant> unless we need Muon
[22:52] <bluesabre> well, they do use our toolkit to a point
[22:52] <bluesabre> firefox is certainly built on gtk
[22:52] <flocculant> bluesabre: good evening :)
[22:52] <bluesabre> hey hey
[22:52] <ochosi> oh wow, the bluesabre sneaks out of the shadows
[22:52] <flocculant> he's been doing that lately
[22:52] <bluesabre> always watching from the shadows once I get home
[22:53] <flocculant> I think it's the loss of summer time :p
[22:53] <bluesabre> and turn the lights on
[22:53] <ochosi> bluesabre: i know, LO uses gtk as well, but in a very very very old-fashioned (and partly weird) way
[22:53] <flocculant> bluesabre: cos it's dark ...
[22:53] <bluesabre> ochosi: its getting better though with each release
[22:53] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, well the gtk3 version still looks like crap tbh ;)
[22:53] <ochosi> i tested it on the LO hackfest
[22:54] <ochosi> cause obviously i had to make sure my patch worked with 2 and 3 (which it did ofc)
[22:54] <ochosi> but they're very busy with all their platforms
[22:54] <ochosi> anyway, no problem for us, we're gtk2 mostly anyway
[22:54] <bluesabre> mhm
[22:54] <ochosi> (i should really re-consider my overuse of the word "anyway")
[22:55] <knome> nope
[22:55] <ochosi> btw, one more thing for the poll (just a personal note): if we would still pour resources into gmusicbrowser then dropping it would free those up so we could further improve parole
[22:55] <ochosi> but since we don't do that anymore, i guess this advantage is gone :)
[22:56] <bluesabre> :)
[22:56] <ochosi> (and ofc if we still poured resources into gmb, we might not want to drop it anymore)
[22:56] <ochosi> s/anymore//
[22:56] <SwissBot> ochosi meant: "(and ofc if we still poured resources into gmb, we might not want to drop it )"
[22:56] * ochosi really needs some sleep
[22:56] <bluesabre> :D
[22:56] <ochosi> bluesabre: don't get kids, they eat your sleep!
[22:57] <knome> SwissBot, seriously?
[22:57] <flocculant> :)
[22:57] <bluesabre> ochosi: you'd probably be jealous that I've been getting 8-9 hours of sleep a night lately
[22:57] <bluesabre> :p
[22:57] <knome> i slept 14 hours two nights ago
[22:58] <bluesabre> :o
[22:58] <flocculant> bluesabre: I have been assiduously ignoring that I get lie-ins now
[22:58] <flocculant> didn't think it would be fair
[22:58] <bluesabre> :)
[22:59] <ochosi> yeah well, otoh she has that "awwwwh, look at the baaaaby!" effect, so i guess the higher endorphine level makes up for *some* of the sleep deprivation...
[22:59] <flocculant> :)
[22:59] <flocculant> they do that for sure
[23:00] <flocculant> ochosi: do you want me to edit the xx spec to lose the list of media players?
[23:00] <ochosi> well that'd only be my suggestion, what do the others here think?
[23:00] <flocculant> might be better
[23:00] <flocculant> is my thought
[23:00] <flocculant> bluesabre knome ^^
[23:01] <knome> fine with that
[23:01] <bluesabre> go for it
[23:01] <flocculant> k
[23:04] <flocculant> ok did that
[23:04] <flocculant> I'll get the mail out tomorrow sometime
[23:05] <bluesabre> nice
[23:11] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, i agree we should offer to launch light-locker if it isn't running
[23:11] <ochosi> e.g. with a nice infobar
[23:11] <bluesabre> yup
[23:11] <ochosi> could be the last new feature before making 1.5 stable
[23:11] <bluesabre> I'll see about getting something together for that this week
[23:12] <ochosi> that'd be awesome!
[23:12] <bluesabre> I've been more busy than lately, so that might slip, but will *try*
[23:12] <bluesabre> s/than//
[23:12] <SwissBot> bluesabre meant: "I've been more busy lately, so that might slip, but will *try*"
[23:13] <bluesabre> :D
[23:14] <flocculant> heh
[23:16] <flocculant> not that I mean this at all personally, but if team is going to vote on this - lderan has been off doing life for a cycle
[23:17] <flocculant> maybe that team should have expiry dates
[23:19] <ochosi> flocculant: good point, i've actually discussed this with him specifically repeatedly
[23:20] <ochosi> i'll send him an email now and deactivate him so he has to take some action to get back on the team and voting rights
[23:20] <flocculant> just seems a bit unfair when there are people constantly about not in team - but 'about'
[23:20] <flocculant> k
[23:20] <knome> then what about jackson/micah? not sure what their actual contributions have been
[23:21] <knome> if we go this path, that is...
[23:21] * flocculant feels a bit like someone with a pitchfork :(
[23:21] <ochosi> knome: yeah, arguably i haven't had any PMs with them about this yet
[23:21] <ochosi> so i wouldn't want to go straight ahead and deactivate them
[23:22] <knome> of course not
[23:22] <ochosi> but i agree that i/we should talk to them
[23:22] <flocculant> then perhaps expiry dates would help - not 6 months as that's how long the processes gives, so someone could be active at start of a cycle
[23:22] <knome> i think that's a bit meh for -team
[23:22] <flocculant> perhaps so
[23:23] <knome> it is a community after all and everybody should judge their own contributions
[23:23] <flocculant> just putting the hat on
[23:23] <flocculant> yep of course
[23:24] <ochosi> yeah, we're still in a range where we can discuss things with people individually
[23:24] <ochosi> i mean we're actually not that many
[23:24] <knome> yep
[23:24] <ochosi> i wouldn't want to enforce too much of a policy here
[23:24] <flocculant> good
[23:24] <knome> and i'd rather encourage people to pick up contributing again than felt excluded
[23:24] <flocculant> was just bringing it up
[23:25] <knome> yep
[23:25] <knome> good to talk about stuff
[23:25] <flocculant> cos - I'm about to send a mail saying only team can vote :)
[23:25] <flocculant> which made me think about it
[23:25] <knome> inactive members are problematic also for the quorum
[23:26] <flocculant> yea
[23:27] <bluesabre> yup
[23:28] <ochosi> i'm sending this email privately fwiw
[23:28] <flocculant> ofc
[23:28] <ochosi> but just so you know, i naturally invited him to just pick up contributing again - i really think re-earning your once held membership should be very easy and i think we should always emphasize that
[23:29] <knome> ++
[23:29] <bluesabre> yes, that sounds very reasonable
[23:29] <flocculant> ochosi: yep totally
[23:30] <ochosi> ok, so now we're 12
[23:30] <flocculant> doesn't the bit in the 'processes' say that?
[23:30] <ochosi> what a biblical number...
[23:30] <flocculant> oh man - so what's quorum? 7?
[23:30] <knome> yes
[23:30] <ochosi> i'll let you figure that out and get some sleep instead ;)
[23:30] <flocculant> \o/
[23:30] <ochosi> (it's really not a hard math problem anyway)
[23:30] <knome> so 7 people need to vote, 4 on the same side... :P
[23:30] <flocculant> ochosi: good night :)
[23:30] <ochosi> night y'all!
[23:31] <flocculant> knome: ha ha
[23:31] <knome> nighty ochosi
[23:31] <Unit193> knome: Nice.
[23:31] <flocculant> evening Unit193
[23:31] <knome> hullo Unit193
[23:32] <flocculant> while we've got people awake - and Unit193 will hate me now ... who's going to prod about core next?
[23:33] <pleia2> knome: hey
[23:33] <knome> pleia2, hai
[23:33] <pleia2> another airplane in 9 hours, so kind of chaos day x_x
[23:33] <knome> so we've been preparing this contributor documentation in the docs branch for some time
[23:33] * pleia2 nods
[23:34] <knome> could we sit down some time and see how we want it done in the docs subdomain?
[23:34] <flocculant> pleia2: I hope you have shares :D
[23:34] <pleia2> knome: I'm around next week, starting Tuesday
[23:34] <knome> pleia2, oki, ping me then :)
[23:34] <knome> flocculant, ^ also
[23:34] <pleia2> knome: so we can talk about that, and some other thing that's on our list (something about social media or somethin?)
[23:35] <knome> yeah
[23:35] <knome> is tuesday good or fo you want a buffer of some days
[23:35] <flocculant> knome: yep - I'd like to be about too if I'm awake :)
[23:35] <flocculant> just to nose in ofc
[23:35] <knome> what did i write
[23:35] <knome> :P
[23:35] <knome> ... good for you or do ...
[23:35] <flocculant> :)
[23:40] <bluesabre> nighty ochosi
[23:41] <bbrawner> Hey knome, you around?
[23:41] <knome> bbrawner, i am
[23:41] <bbrawner> How's it going?
[23:42] <knome> no complaints
[23:42] <bbrawner> Haha that's always good
[23:42] <bbrawner> I've been looking around here: http://tracker.xubuntu.org/#tab-details/spec=xubuntu-x-web
[23:42] <bbrawner> And I haven't been able to find the code haha
[23:42] <bluesabre> flocculant, Unit193: if we know what needs to be asked, I can start poking folks
[23:42] <bbrawner> Am I missing something?
[23:43] <knome> https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/tracker
[23:45] <bbrawner> Thanks knome!
[23:45] <knome> np
[23:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: Well they *were* supposed to review it, but that never happened. We fixed it to be more like what they wanted, as far as we can tell. I'm pretty sure it's out of sync now, but I have no intention on fixing it now.
[23:46] <flocculant> bluesabre: afaik - we did what they wanted us to - just needs pushing
[23:46] <flocculant> that ^^
[23:48] <bluesabre> Unit193: cool, I'll take a look at it and see how far behind we are. Then we can give ochosi the stabbing stick
[23:49] <flocculant> well - I'm off now
[23:49] <flocculant> night all
[23:49] <bluesabre> night flocculant
[23:49] <flocculant> and hi bbrawner :)
[23:49] <knome> nighty flocculant
[23:49] <bbrawner> Hey flocculant!
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-nl
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[06:46] <Goudfazant3991> goede morgen alle
[06:51] <Goudfazant3991> hallo is daar iemand
[07:07] <Goudfazant3991> hallo is lordievader aanwezig
[07:14] <Goudfazant3991> kan geen upgrade naar binnen halen van 63,2 M omdat ik eerst wat vrij moet maken??
[07:15] <Goudfazant3991> op een schijf van 3tera??
[07:42] <Goudfazant3991> hallo alle
[07:44] <Goudfazant3991> om een upgrade naar binnen te halen moet ik eerst wat free maken maar hoe doe ik dat??
[07:47] <Goudfazant3991> ik vind dit vreemd met eeen 3-tera schijf
[07:49] <Goudfazant3991> hoe maak ik in het boot gedeelte wat meer ruimte?
[08:45] <lordievader> Goede morgen.
[11:25] <Skyhigh> Ubuntu is dus een besturings systeem maar hoe onderhouden jullie alles met welk geld? en zou een school dit ook kunnen gaan gebruiken?
[15:16] <henk_> ubuntu wachtwoord is veranderd maar niet door mij dus kom er niet meer in
[15:17] <henk_> comp. nu opgestart met usb stick
[15:24] <lordievader> henk_: Je kan ook in recovery mode opstarten en het wachtwoord wijzigen.
[15:24] <henk_> heb geen idee hoe sat moet
[15:24] <henk_> dat
[15:25] <lordievader> henk_: Hou shift in na het bios, dan krijg je het grub menu. Vannuit daar kun je de recovery mode opstarten.
[15:26] <henk_> gister avond normaal afgesloten en vandaag aan gezet en vraagd om ww....veranderd even van scherm en komt dan terug om ww in te voeren
[15:28] <henk_> comp. herstarten en dan shift vasthouden?
[15:29] <lordievader> Yes, helemaal correct.
[15:29] <lordievader> Heb je een 2de pc, o.i.d.?
[15:30] <henk_> ik heb wel eens over grub gehoord maar nooit mee gewerkt. hoe kan mijn ww veranderd zijn dan?
[15:30] <henk_> geen 2e pc
[15:30] <lordievader> Om eerlijk te zijn, vind ik dat verhaal nogal sterk.
[15:31] <lordievader> Ook geen tablet ofzo? Het is wel handig om iets te hebben zodat je met deze chat kunt verbinden terwijl je met je pc bezig bent.
[15:31] <henk_> bedoel je het grub verhaal
[15:31] <lordievader> Nee, het zomaar veranderde wachtwoord verhaal.
[15:32] <henk_> ja ik snap het ook niet daarom ben ik ook hier
[15:33] <henk_> heb net een paar dagen nieuwste ubuntu er op staan en heb dit nog nooit eerder gehad
[15:34] <OerHeks> http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/community/WachtwoordVergeten
[15:34] <OerHeks> misschien uitprinten, is niet zo lang
[15:34] <henk_> ik ben ww niet vergeten maar werkt niet meer
[15:35] <OerHeks> zo reset je het password wat nu geldig is, misschien werkt het
[15:36] <henk_> vind het geweldig dat dit er is....en begrijp ook dat het niet zo eenvoudig moet zijn om ww te veranderen ivm veiligheid e.d.
[15:41] <henk_> als het niet lukt kan ik altijd ubuntu er opnieuw installeren maar dan verlies ik wel wat bestanden wat ik eigelijk niet wil...dan het net ganzeborden en terug naar af
[15:41] <lordievader> Als je een aparte /home hebt verlies je niet veel.
[15:43] <henk_> ik gebuik ubuntu wel maar dat wil niet zeggen dat ik er wat van weet...net als auto rijder hoef je niet te weten wat er onder de motorkap gebeurd
[15:46] <henk_> dankjewel voor jullie hulp en ga het zo proberen.....als ik lange tijd er niet ben of terug kom dan is het me niet gelukt
[15:50] <OerHeks> succes :-)
[21:54] <alex_> hallo
[22:02] <SCHAAP137> hoi
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-us-mi
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[01:14] <_stink_> but the slurpees? awesome.
[12:51] <rick_h__> morning
[12:56] <_stink_> yo
[13:07] <cmaloney> MOrning
[13:07] <cmaloney> Sitting at Beaumont because woo
[13:07] <rick_h__> cmaloney: :(
[13:08] <cmaloney> no worries
[13:24] <Scary_Guy> morning
[13:25] <cmaloney> morning
[13:25] <Scary_Guy> anyone know a good way to manage keybindings. seems like the WM conflicts with every app I have installed
[13:40] <cmaloney> WHich WM? i3?
[13:40] <Scary_Guy> yup
[13:40] <cmaloney> I think there were a few i3 users
[13:40] <cmaloney> (in the channel)
[13:40] <Scary_Guy> i can go into the config (and have) and moved some stuff around
[13:41] <cmaloney> right
[13:41] <cmaloney> which keys specifcally are conflicting?
[13:41] <Scary_Guy> well I'm using MATE as the DE and i3 as the WM, so functionality might not be "normal" I'm not sure
[13:42] <Scary_Guy> like in weechat the arrow keys switch buffers with the alt modifiers
[13:42] <Scary_Guy> in i3 alt and arrow keys move the window focus around, as secondary keys though so I just commented those out
[13:43] <Scary_Guy> weechat has a /scripts command that works like a package manager kind of. so alt+i installs the script. so unfortunately I like a different key layout in i3 so I had to move the other keys, not a huge deal but kind of hard to explain in text
[13:45] <Scary_Guy> normal window movement is jkl; but I prefer a wasd style FPS layout, so I made it ijkl but i was taken for install so I moved it to jbnm because h moves windows to a horizontal layout and it's just annoying playing whackamole with keybindings
[13:51] <Scary_Guy> I just realized I should probably look at using the numberpad specifically for movement
[13:58] <jrwren> cmaloney: i'll be at henry ford macomb later today. maybe we can meet up and swap stories. :) *sigh*
[14:01] <cmaloney> jrwren: What brings you out there?
[14:01] <Scary_Guy> work I hope
[14:02] <jrwren> cmaloney: ever see leaving las vegas? My dad tried that. I thought he was going to die on Thursday.
[14:03] <cmaloney> oh no
[14:03] <jrwren> yeah, he looks a lot better than he did on Thursday, but his liver and kidneys are still failing
[14:03] <Scary_Guy> wow
[14:04] <cmaloney> jrwren: Fuck, I had to look up the movie. Not cool
[14:05] <jrwren> oh, yeah. trying to drink yourself to death is not cool.
[14:05] <jrwren> hiding your depression and drinking from your family for years is not cool.
[14:05] <Scary_Guy> sounds like my mom, except she wasn't hiding it. on the plus side she stopped, on the negative side, painkillers for chronic back pain
[14:06] <jrwren> was she drinking because of the back pain?
[14:07] <Scary_Guy> partly
[14:07] <Scary_Guy> partly also depression, she seems much better these days
[14:08] <jrwren> I think he is same though he'd might not admit the depression.
[14:08] <Scary_Guy> although she holds up in her room and avoids people like the plague now
[14:08] <Scary_Guy> depression is a hard thing to admit, sometimes even to ones self
[14:21] <cmaloney> Yeah, I can relate
[14:21] <cmaloney> have some online friends that are deep in the depression well
[14:25] <Scary_Guy> bbl
[14:29] <cmaloney> jrwren: If you need anythin LMK
[14:39] <jrwren> cmaloney: thanks.
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2015-11-09-#ubuntu-pt
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[03:49] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[21:38] <coss> boa noite
[22:00] <astroo-> ola pessoal
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-ir
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[07:58] <matrix_> سلام
[09:24] <keyhan> سلام
[09:25] <emzi> :)
[09:25] <keyhan> درمورد fluxbox میتونید راهنمای کنید
[09:27] <keyhan> میخوام شخصی سازیش کنم
[09:27] <emzi> به این مدیر پنجره کار نکردم. حالا پرسشتون چی هست؟
[09:27] <emzi> چه نوع شخصیسازی؟
[09:27] <keyhan> روی دبیان نصبش کردم بالا اوردمش فقط یه ساعت داره همین
[09:28] <keyhan> تسکبارش رو یکم بیشتر کنم
[09:28] <emzi> خوب یک داک نیاز دارید: که پلانک یک گزینه عالیه اگر پر مخازن دبیان باشه
[09:28] <keyhan> منظورم اینه بهش ایندیکتور زبان اضافه کنم شبکه و ...
[09:29] <emzi> برای تسکبار، روی اُپنباکس از تینت۲ استفاده میکردم
[09:32] <emzi> Tint2: It can be configured to include (or not include), among other things, a system tray, a task list, a battery monitor and a clock; Keyhan --> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tint2
[09:34] <keyhan> مرسی
[09:34] <keyhan> ببینم روی فلوکس جواب میده
[09:34] <keyhan> اره
[09:34] <emzi> برای بکگراند هم از این میتونی استفاده کنی:
[09:35] <emzi> Nitrogen: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fluxbox#Nitrogen
[09:40] <emzi> یک نمونه کانفیگ تینت۲:
[09:42] <emzi> keyhan: https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/rkiPzmspQ7WT1auEYBc6
[09:42] <keyhan> این تینت رو چطوری دیفالتش کنم باید هربار توی ترمینال بنویسمش تا بیاد
[09:43] <emzi> پوشه زیر رو داری؟
[09:43] <emzi> ~/.config/fluxbox/autostart
[09:44] <keyhan> صبر کن
[09:44] <emzi> یا شاید یک فایل باشه
[09:46] <keyhan> فایله؟
[09:46] <emzi> در فایل autostart به این صورت درج کن:
[09:46] <emzi> tint2 &
[09:46] <keyhan> اگه فایله با جی ادیت بازش کردم
[09:46] <keyhan> خالیه
[09:47] <emzi> خوب برنامههایی که تصمیم داری پس لاگین اجرا شوند را داخلش بذار
[09:47] <emzi> plank &
[09:47] <emzi> یا اینطوری:
[09:47] <emzi> (sleep 2s && plank) &
[09:48] <keyhan> به ترتیب این سه خط رو بذارم؟
[09:49] <emzi> آخری، برنامه پلانک/پلنک رو با تأخیر ۲ ثانیه اجرامیکنه (برنامه plank باید نصب باشه)
[09:49] <CtrlC> چرا اسلیپ؟
[09:49] <emzi> دومی پس از ورود بلافاصله اجرا میکنه
[09:50] <emzi> تا تأخیر بندازه
[09:50] <CtrlC> میدونم اسلیپ چیکار میکنه. منظور این بود دو ثانیه تاخیر واسه ی چیه؟
[09:51] <keyhan> پلانک چیه؟
[09:51] <emzi> پلانک یک داکه
[09:51] <emzi> (لانچر)
[09:53] <CtrlC> :-\
[09:53] <emzi> تأخیر شاید برای پلانک لازم نباشه ولی، خوب، من ترجیح میدم که برنامهای مثل گلدندیک قبل از اینکه مدیرپنجره خودش کامل رو لود نکرده، اجرا نشه
[09:53] <emzi> CtrlC: ^
[09:55] <CtrlC> آها از اون نظر.
[09:57] <emzi> keyhan: یک برنامه جستوجو هم نصب کنی، اجرای برنامهها برات راحتتر میشه، مثل
[09:57] <emzi> synapse
[09:58] <keyhan> فایل کانفیگ رو ندارم
[09:58] <keyhan> اینی که گذاشتی رو باید توش کپی کرد؟
[09:58] <emzi> کانفیگ چی؟
[09:58] <keyhan> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/rkiPzmspQ7WT1auEYBc6گ
[09:58] <keyhan> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/rkiPzmspQ7WT1auEYBc6
[09:58] <emzi> باید کانفیگ خودت رو بسازی! اون نمونه بود
[09:59] <emzi> اگر تینت رو اجرا کنی، احتمالا مسیرهای لازم رو میسازه:
[10:00] <emzi> ~/.config/tint2
[10:01] <keyhan> توی این برنامه رو بذارم برای پیشفرض؟
[10:02] <emzi> پیشفرض؟ این یک تسکباره که میتونی بگی پس از لاگین اجرا شه. البته جایگزینهای دیگری هم وجود داره
[10:15] <keyhan> تینت رو توی اتواستارت گذاشتم ولی بازم میرم بیرون میام تو پیش فرض بالا نمیاد
[10:20] <emzi> گویا در flux اسم فایل startup است
[10:20] <emzi> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fluxbox#Autostart_programs
[10:20] <emzi> keyhan: ^
[10:24] <emzi> --> ~/.fluxbox/startup
[10:24] <keyhan> الان توش گذاشتم بازم بالا نیومد
[10:24] <keyhan> فقط یه تینت۲ خالی نوشتم همین
[10:25] <emzi> ~/.fluxbox/startup vs ~/.config/fluxbox/startup?
[10:25] <keyhan> راستی
[10:25] <keyhan> ~/.config/fluxbox/startup
[10:26] <emzi> Follow the wiki instruction: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fluxbox#Autostart_programs, Keyhan
[10:27] <emzi> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fluxbox#Autostart_programs
[10:27] <emzi> ~/.fluxbox/startup
[10:29] <keyhan> توی این مسیر یه سری نوشته است
[10:29] <keyhan> کجاش باید گذاشت
[10:30] <keyhan> اخرش بدون #
[10:30] <keyhan> گذاشتم بازم جواب نداد
[10:31] <emzi> tint2 در خط فرمان اجرا میکنی، میآد؟
[10:31] <keyhan> اره
[10:32] <emzi> tint2 &
[10:32] <keyhan> اومد از اخرش برش داشتم بردم قبل لوگ
[10:32] <emzi> در اون فایل با & مینویسی؟
[10:33] <emzi> huh?
[10:33] <keyhan> اره. الان اومد.فقط نباید اخرش میذاشتم چراش نمیدونم
[10:33] <keyhan> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fluxbox#Autostart_programs
[10:33] <keyhan> مثل این لینک کردم
[10:37] <keyhan> این ایکن زبان روچطور میشه بهش اضافه کرد
[10:39] <keyhan> زبان رو بهش اضافه کردم ولی باید راست کلیک کنم بعدش انتخاب کنم
[10:40] <emzi> از xxkb استفاده کن
[10:41] <keyhan> نصبش کردم چطور
[10:42] <emzi> بذارش در فایل استارت آپ:
[10:42] <emzi> (sleep 1s && xxkb) &
[10:42] <emzi> بعد
[10:43] <emzi> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/uwcUniwQ3OoHu0x3BfNy
[10:43] <emzi> این فایل را بدار در پوشه کانفیگ و همانجا یک پوشه با نام xxkb بساز
[10:43] <keyhan> این برنامهها چی هستند که کاما شدن الان اسمشون رو میذارم
[10:43] <keyhan> wmnd
[10:44] <keyhan> wmsmixer
[10:44] <keyhan> idesk
[10:44] <emzi> wm=window manager
[10:46] <emzi> idesk: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Idesk
[10:47] <emzi> بعد این دوتا فایل را بدار داخل پوشهای که ساختی:
[10:48] <emzi> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/K7uHQj2zQzOj3PxIOIxc
[10:48] <emzi> و
[10:48] <emzi> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/Wmy8ANxJTPqSKxathNPA (ir.xpm)
[10:55] <keyhan> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Idesk
[10:55] <keyhan> اینو باید توی اون فایل بذارمش؟
[10:55] <keyhan> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/uwcUniwQ3OoHu0x3BfNy
[10:55] <keyhan> این منظورمه اشتباهی دادم
[11:03] <keyhan> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/K7uHQj2zQzOj3PxIOIxc
[11:03] <keyhan> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/Wmy8ANxJTPqSKxathNPA
[12:04] <esmaeil> سلام
[12:05] <esmaeil> کسی نیست؟
[17:31] <CtrlC> صبر نداشت اصلا!
[20:27] <reza> quit
[20:32] <rezzaa> ADMIN
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-ru
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[06:16] <marat> всем привет, такой вопрос
[06:18] <marat> Как в Ubuntu 14.04 Unity сделать так, чтоб при переключении раскладки на клавиатуре загорался индикатор ScrollLock?
[06:25] <marat_> что, никто не знает?
[06:42] <marat_> отзывчивая поддержка, ага
[06:54] <Anti-Pizza> лол
[06:54] <marat_> ага
[06:54] <marat_> вообще лол
[06:54] <marat_> лаллический
[07:07] <andrex> хай
[07:41] <buriedalive> рофл
[07:48] <Anti-Pizza> Может кому нужен Эникейщик на фирму? На пол-ставки (Екб)
[09:11] <andrex> у нас все даром работают)
[11:24] <R4nd0om1z3r> бобрый вечер
[11:54] <Souseiseka> Ребятки, как изменить размерш шрифта индикатора ракладки? Через гуи настройку не меняется
[11:55] <Souseiseka> 15.10
[11:55] <Souseiseka> xfce
[12:33] <tagezi> утра всем
[12:45] <Sergey_IT> утра раннего вечера
[12:57] <andrex> полуночера
[13:01] <uri> привет
[13:02] <uri> кто в Fedore шарит?
[13:02] <tagezi> фидорщик пришёл на канал убунты :))))
[13:02] <uri> да я убунтовщик
[13:02] <tagezi> uri: тут не любят тролей
[13:02] <uri> на другую тачку федору ставлю
[13:03] <uri> вопрос есть
[13:03] <tagezi> ставишь фидору, иди на канал фидоры
[13:03] <uri> ладно))
[13:04] <uri> там пусто
[13:05] <andrex> иди на форум федоры
[13:06] <uri> может кто знает что такое Persistent overlay при записи ISOшки запрашивает 4 варианта 512, 1024, 1500 и 2047 что это?
[13:07] <uri> откажете человеку в помощи только потому что я хочу на разные тачки разные системы поставить?
[13:07] <uri> я вам анекдот расскажу
[13:08] <uri> я смеялся
[13:08] <uri> да ну перестаньте. вопрос то на 5 копеек
[13:08] <uri> эх
[13:08] <uri> ладно
[13:08] <andrex> хранилище данных
[13:09] <andrex> в mb
[13:10] <andrex> чтобы сохранялись установденные пакеты или какито созданные файлы в лифке
[13:10] <andrex> но это чисто у ихней тулзы такая фигня
[13:10] <uri> спасибо
[13:10] <andrex> у других по другому зовется
[13:11] <uri> Анекдот: Как вам спектакль миссис Линкольн? :)
[13:12] <andrex> лопата
[13:24] <Leagnus> а чья это жена и что с ней? :-)
[13:24] <andrex> моя
[13:24] <andrex> убил
[13:24] <andrex> лежит в лесу
[13:25] <Leagnus> это уже как эвфемизм: да пошёл ты на канал...
[13:25] <Leagnus> Пошли лучше в Warface на про-миссию
[13:26] <andrex> какая лифка какая исошка и ваще что такое федора, иди приляг поспи
[13:28] <pr0mode> вечера
[13:32] <UNIm95> Черт. Народ. Я дико туплю. У меня стандартный QT-проект с mainwindow.ui В нем одна кнопка и Label. как по on_openButton_clicked() сдменить текст в label
[13:35] <UNIm95> tagezi: помнишь как это делается правильно?
[13:38] <UNIm95> А черт.
[13:38] <UNIm95> Все понял.
[13:38] <UNIm95> я не тот объект дергал.
[13:41] <tagezi> =)
[13:41] <Sergey_IT> субьект перепутал объект...
[13:41] <tagezi> UNIm95: если у тебя очень простой проект, юзай дизайнер
[13:42] <Sergey_IT> если ui значит с дизайнером, вроде
[13:42] <tagezi> UNIm95: построение форм в коде удобно окгда у тебя сложные формы и тебе нужно их масштабировать
[13:43] <UNIm95> tagezi: я в qt cteator сейчас работаю. Просто я пытался через this->label или MainWindow->label делал.
[13:43] <UNIm95> Хотя я был в другом обхекте
[13:44] <UNIm95> Вообщем что-то я сегодня туплю по-полной.
[13:44] <UNIm95> Хз почему.
[13:44] <tagezi> спать нужно больше )
[13:44] <Sergey_IT> воскресенье - вечер
[13:44] <tagezi> утро )
[13:44] <UNIm95> даже не всегда по клавишам попадаю правильно.
[13:45] <Sergey_IT> здесь все такие
[13:46] <UNIm95> Да мне завтра до 10 утра надо написать прогу по seam carving
[13:46] <UNIm95> c qt и opencv
[13:47] <UNIm95> А я туплю =(
[13:47] <Sergey_IT> еще ночь впереди (это как у студентов)
[13:49] <tagezi> UNIm95: а зачем тебе opencv? в кути есть свои интрументы масштабирования
[13:50] <UNIm95> tagezi: сказано с opencv значит с opencv
[13:50] <tagezi> UNIm95: тебе нужно паказать работы конкретного алгоритма?
[13:51] <tagezi> MERL
[13:52] <UNIm95> + надо самому, ручками, реализовать функцию энергии.
[13:52] <tagezi> удачи )
[13:52] <tagezi> чото ты поздно за это взялся..
[13:56] <Sergey_IT> http://hxr99.blogspot.ru/2011/12/opencv-with-qt-c-examples-showing-image.html
[13:57] <Sergey_IT> http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/43056-Qt-OpenCV-simple-example
[13:57] <Sergey_IT> и т.д.
[13:57] <tagezi> прикольное у этого алгоритма применение )))
[14:03] <UNIm95> tagezi: Это liquid resize в gimp
[14:30] <Leagnus> это типа бикубической интерполяции?
[19:14] <Sergey_IT> вечера-ночера
[19:28] <buriedalive> Sergey_IT здорово
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-cat
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[15:19] <Laia> hola, algú per aquí?
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-il
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[17:55] <NEW> שלום אני חדש מישהו יכול בבקשה לספר לי על היתרונות של אובנטו לאומת הוינדאוס ומה בנוגע להבטחה?
[19:58] <who-me> NEW: אני לא יודע אם אני בסמכות להבטחות...
[19:59] <who-me> אחרי הכל אני אפילו לא יודע להבטיח מה יהיה מחר
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.282150
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-mozillateam
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[07:15] <who_me> Hello. Mozilla will enable GTK3 builds on Linux starting with version 43. Are there plans for the Ubuntu build to enable GTK3 as well?
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ubuntu-chat
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-it
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[00:00] <thealmi> posso andare a fumare intanto...3 minuti
[00:00] <cristian_c> [00:00] <cristian_c> BIOS is EFI-compatible, and is setup in EFI-mode for this live-session.
[00:00] <cristian_c> SecureBoot disabled. (maybe sec-boot, Please report this message to
[00:00] <cristian_c> thealmi: sì
[00:00] <thealmi> thanks
[00:06] <thealmi> eccomi
[00:06] <cristian_c> [00:06] <cristian_c> The default repair of the Boot-Repair utility will reinstall the grub-efi-amd64-signed of sda8, using the following options: sda2/boot/efi,
[00:06] <cristian_c> Additional repair will be performed: unhide-bootmenu-10s fix-windows-boot use-standard-efi-file restore-efi-backups
[00:06] <cristian_c>
[00:08] <cristian_c> /boot/efi added in sda8/fstab
[00:08] <cristian_c> rm /mnt/boot-sav/sda2/efi/Boot/bootx64.efi
[00:08] <cristian_c> Quantity of real Windows: 1
[00:08] <cristian_c> Mount sda2 on /mnt/boot-sav/sda8/boot/efi
[00:10] <cristian_c> Reinstall the grub-efi-amd64-signed of sda8
[00:10] <cristian_c> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[00:10] <cristian_c> Installation finished. No error reported.
[00:10] <cristian_c> grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --target=x86_64-efi --uefi-secure-boot : exit code of grub-install :0
[00:10] <cristian_c> Refind detected on sda2
[00:11] <cristian_c> Save and rename /mnt/boot-sav/sda8/boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi (/mnt/boot-sav/sda8/boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bkpbootx64.efi)
[00:11] <cristian_c> cp /mnt/boot-sav/sda8/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/boot-sav/sda8/boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[00:13] <cristian_c> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[00:13] <cristian_c> Installation finished. No error reported.
[00:13] <cristian_c> grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --target=x86_64-efi --uefi-secure-boot : exit code of grub-install :0
[00:14] <cristian_c> Generating grub configuration file ...
[00:14] <cristian_c> Found Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda2@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[00:14] <cristian_c> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[00:14] <cristian_c> Unhide GRUB boot menu in sda8/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:15] <cristian_c> Boot successfully repaired.
[00:15] <cristian_c> You can now reboot your computer.
[00:16] <cristian_c> If your computer reboots directly into Windows, try to change the boot order in your BIOS.
[00:16] <cristian_c> If your BIOS does not allow to change the boot order, change the default boot entry of the Windows bootloader.
[00:16] <cristian_c> For example you can boot into Windows, then type the following command in an admin command prompt:
[00:16] <cristian_c> bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi
[00:17] <thealmi> un bordello...
[00:18] <cristian_c> thealmi: un paio di domande
[00:18] <cristian_c> thealmi: 1) cosa accade al riavvio esattamente?
[00:19] <thealmi> si avvia windows
[00:19] <thealmi> semplicemente!
[00:19] <cristian_c> bene
[00:19] <cristian_c> allora
[00:19] <cristian_c> thealmi: puoi provare un paio di cose
[00:19] <cristian_c> thealmi: primo tentativo: riattiva secure boot
[00:19] <cristian_c> e vedi cosa succede
[00:20] <cristian_c> thealmi: se non va, guarda le opzioni di bio uefi per vedere se il bios chiuso di toshiba ti permette di impostare la voce di boot
[00:20] <thealmi> non si potrebbe ripristinare sda2 con gli efi giusti
[00:21] <cristian_c> thealmi: se non va, prova con bcdedit da windows
[00:21] <thealmi> ovviamente no! xke e chiusissimo
[00:21] <cristian_c> thealmi: ci ha pensato bootrepair a quello
[00:21] <thealmi> e tutti quei file efi?
[00:21] <cristian_c> thealmi: beh, direi che hai un paio di cose da provare
[00:21] <cristian_c> rileggi i miei ultimi messaggi
[00:22] <thealmi> io opterei per quella piu efficace
[00:22] <cristian_c> thealmi: io opterei nell'ordine
[00:22] <cristian_c> 1) riattivare secure boot
[00:22] <cristian_c> 2) controllare bios
[00:22] <cristian_c> 3) bcdedit
[00:23] <thealmi> ti dico gi' che non ce modo di selezionare partizioni uefi dal bios
[00:24] <cristian_c> thealmi: con uefi secure boot disattivato?
[00:24] <thealmi> yes
[00:25] <thealmi> a meno che non provo a mettere delle password per vedere se si sblocca qualcosa
[00:25] <cristian_c> thealmi: intanto riattiva secure boot
[00:25] <cristian_c> e poi prosegui
[00:25] <thealmi> okok entro in chat dal cell
[00:25] <cristian_c> thealmi: a occhio, direi che la password non cambia nulla
[00:25] <cristian_c> thealmi: beh, io vado
[00:25] <cristian_c> semmai , domani
[00:25] <cristian_c> thealmi: notte
[00:25] <thealmi> aspe
[00:26] <thealmi> con bcd cosa dovrei fare teoricamente_
[00:26] <cristian_c> thealmi: è scrittp
[00:26] <cristian_c> sia nel log di bootrepair che hai postato
[00:26] <cristian_c> sia nel log di questo canale
[00:27] <cristian_c> comando che ho appunto ripostato nel log
[00:27] <cristian_c> !log | thealmi
[00:27] <ubot-it> thealmi: Log del canale: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[00:27] <cristian_c> thealmi: notte
[00:27] <thealmi> un attimo scusami
[00:28] <thealmi> da dove dice recomended repair in poi_
[00:29] <cristian_c> thealmi: in fondo al log: http://pastebin.com/vEgqwXZT
[00:30] <thealmi> dimmi una riga abbi pazienza
[00:36] <thealmi> ci sei cris_
[00:36] <thealmi> ?
[00:43] <cristian_c> If your computer reboots directly into Windows, try to change the boot order in your BIOS.
[00:43] <cristian_c> If your BIOS does not allow to change the boot order, change the default boot entry of the Windows bootloader.
[00:43] <cristian_c> For example you can boot into Windows, then type the following command in an admin command prompt:
[00:43] <cristian_c> bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi
[06:56] <Squall68> buongiorno a tutti
[07:06] <Squall68> maonna ciao
[07:06] <Squall68> allora dimmi le specifiche del tuo pc
[07:07] <Squall68> :)
[07:07] <maonna> ciao, ci sono riuscito,
[07:07] <Squall68> ok
[07:08] <maonna> allora, niente volevo sapere siccome ho un desktop che ho sempre utilizzato con windowsxp
[07:08] <maonna> adesso volevo passare a linux, volevo sapere qual'è la versione da poter scaricare
[07:08] <maonna> per farlo partire da pennetta e come si fa
[07:09] <Squall68> se hai un hardware vecchio ti conviene scaricare una distribuzione che si prenda poche risorse come Lubuntu
[07:10] <Squall68> abbastanza veloce ed anche graficamente accettabile
[07:10] <Squall68> per farlo partire da pennetta
[07:10] <Squall68> una volta scaricata la .iso
[07:10] <Squall68> scarichi UnetbootIn e lo installi su windows
[07:12] <Squall68> lo apri e nello spazio riservato alla iso metti il percorso dove hai scaricato la distribuzione Linux
[07:13] <Squall68> mentre sotto ci metti il percorso destinato alla tua penna usb... che verrà formattata quindi non metterci dei dati personali o li perdi
[07:14] <Squall68> quando unetbootin ha finito puoi riavviare e far partire dal bios al boot usb
[07:14] <Squall68> e provare la tua distro linux
[07:14] <Squall68> sul sito di Ubuntu Italia ci sono tutte le guide nel wiki
[07:15] <maonna> ok quindi Unebootin dopo averlo scaricato lo istallo sul pc. Giusto
[07:15] <Squall68> yess
[07:19] <maonna> ok grazie, ho visto anche le guide su wiki che spiegano come fare. sei stato gentilissimo
[08:49] <WickPick> è possibile creare un file, che se cliccato (due volte), esegua determinate righe di codice per terminale?
[08:52] <akis24> !chat | WickPick
[08:52] <ubot-it> WickPick: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:49] <thealmighty> buongioeno a tutti
[09:58] <thealmighty> buongiorno cristian ;) sono da ubuntu ;)
[09:59] <cristian__c> thealmighty: come hai risolto?
[09:59] <thealmighty> stanotte ho fatto risolto con bcdedit, poi fatto un altro boot repair ed è andato
[09:59] <thealmighty> alla grande
[09:59] <cristian__c> thealmighty: molto ben
[09:59] <thealmighty> sei stato fantastico ieri
[09:59] <thealmighty> ora volevo sapere un trick
[10:00] <thealmighty> come mai è abbastanza macchioso nell'apertura delle appp?
[10:00] <thealmighty> e poi che driver consigli?
[10:00] <thealmighty> proprietari o quelli di ubuntu?
[10:00] <cristian__c> thealmighty: se non sbaglio è un 47xx haswell, il tuo toshiba
[10:00] <cristian__c> i7 diciamo
[10:00] <thealmighty> yep
[10:00] <cristian__c> e quindi non mi è chiaro perché sia lento
[10:01] <thealmighty> eh neanche a me
[10:01] <cristian__c> la potenza c'è
[10:01] <thealmighty> tipo quando lancio chrome dalla barra a sinistra non è immediata l'apertura
[10:02] <cristian__c> thealmighty: quale gpu ha il tuo toshiba?
[10:02] <cristian__c> doppia?
[10:02] <thealmighty> eh...mi sfugge sta domanda...come faccio a controllare?
[10:02] <ExPBoy> potrebbe essere anche un problema di scheda video
[10:02] <cristian__c> thealmighty: lshw -C network
[10:02] <cristian__c> !paste | thealmighty
[10:02] <ubot-it> thealmighty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[10:03] <cristian__c> thealmighty: lshw -C video
[10:03] <cristian__c> errore
[10:03] <Carlin0> network ?
[10:03] <Carlin0> lol
[10:03] <akis24> su su boni è domenica :)
[10:04] <ExPBoy> povero cristian__c magari ancora non è sveglio del tutto su
[10:04] <akis24> eh diamogli tempo
[10:04] <thealmighty> ahahahah cristian è un grande raga!
[10:04] <thealmighty> da dove lo leggo?
[10:05] <akis24> [11:03:09] <cristian__c> thealmighty: lshw -C video
[10:05] <akis24> eh svegliaaa
[10:05] <thealmighty> sisi ho capito
[10:05] <thealmighty> l'ho inserito quel comando
[10:06] <ExPBoy> e?
[10:07] <thealmighty> http://pastebin.com/wnm1LuEd
[10:07] <thealmighty> questo è il risultato
[10:07] <ExPBoy> bene
[10:07] <cristian__c> thealmighty: doppia gpu
[10:07] <cristian__c> intel + nvidia
[10:08] <cristian__c> thealmighty: e già stai utilizzando driver proprietari nvidi
[10:08] <cristian__c> a
[10:08] <thealmighty> ah sisi
[10:08] <thealmighty> si li ho cambiati stanotte appena installato ubuntu
[10:08] <cristian__c> thealmighty: li hai attivati da driver aggiuntivi?
[10:08] <thealmighty> yes
[10:08] <thealmighty> ho attivato (proprietario testato)
[10:08] <thealmighty> xke in passato ho avuto problemi con questi driver su mint
[10:09] <cristian__c> thealmighty: allora
[10:09] <ExPBoy> usi mint?
[10:09] <thealmighty> ho usato
[10:09] <thealmighty> ma mi crashava la cynnamon
[10:09] <cristian__c> thealmighty: il tool nvidia dovrebbe permetterti di gestire nvidia optimus
[10:09] <thealmighty> e non è tutto sto che di distro
[10:10] <thealmighty> cris ti seguo ;)
[10:10] <Carlin0> thealmighty, probabile anche che dipendesse dal fatto che gnome3 fosse ancora immaturo
[10:11] <Carlin0> crashava parecchio diciamo
[10:11] <thealmighty> non ho le conoscenze per giudicarlo carlo...
[10:11] <Carlin0> cinnamon è gnome 3
[10:12] <cristian__c> thealmighty: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:13] <thealmighty> http://pastebin.com/FXkXj9Fw
[10:15] <cristian__c> thealmighty: si è aperta una finestra?
[10:16] <thealmighty> nu
[10:17] <cristian__c> thealmighty: sudo nvidia-settings
[10:17] <cristian__c> errore mio
[10:17] <thealmighty> aperta
[10:17] <cristian__c> thealmighty: posta qualche schermata
[10:19] <thealmighty> http://oi64.tinypic.com/2udxjdi.jpg
[10:19] <thealmighty> scusami per il doppio display
[10:20] <Carlin0> usa imgur ...
[10:20] <cristian__c> thealmighty: Prime profiles
[10:20] <cristian__c> selezionala
[10:20] <cristian__c> e riposta
[10:21] <thealmighty> c'è un radio button impostato su nvidia
[10:21] <thealmighty> e uno non impostato su inter
[10:21] <cristian__c> thealmighty: prova intel
[10:22] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ci sono solo i radio bottoni nella schemata?
[10:22] <thealmighty> yep
[10:22] <cristian__c> ok
[10:22] <thealmighty> devo riloggare
[10:22] <cristian__c> allora fai un test con intel
[10:22] <thealmighty> per applicare
[10:22] <thealmighty> che migliorie dovrei vedere?
[10:22] <cristian__c> boh, vedi se si velocizza
[10:23] <thealmighty> riloggo
[10:23] <thealmighty> ;)
[10:25] <thealmighty> mmm diciamo che non noto migliorie
[10:26] <cristian__c> thealmighty: sudo nvidia-settings
[10:26] <cristian__c> bah, credo comunque sia necessario un riavvio completo di sistema
[10:26] <thealmighty> fatto!
[10:26] <cristian__c> thealmighty: esce la intel?
[10:26] <thealmighty> sisi
[10:27] <thealmighty> giustamente non escono tutte le impostazioni nvidia
[10:27] <cristian__c> thealmighty: glxinfo | grep render
[10:28] <thealmighty> installo?
[10:28] <cristian__c> thealmighty: sì
[10:28] <thealmighty> cos'è precisamente sta cosa?
[10:28] <thealmighty> installato
[10:28] <cristian__c> thealmighty: glxinfo | grep render
[10:29] <davide> raga...router voip con linea tiscali...posso metterne uno mio sempre router voip
[10:30] <cristian__c> !chat | davide
[10:30] <ubot-it> davide: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[10:30] <davide> sacusate
[10:31] <davide> chiedo scusa
[10:31] <thealmighty> http://pastebin.com/KqnXQEnG
[10:32] <cristian__c> esce intel
[10:32] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ps aux
[10:32] <cristian__c> !paste
[10:32] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[10:33] <thealmighty> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
[10:33] <thealmighty> root 1 0.1 0.0 185228 5848 ? Ss 11:23 0:00 /sbin/init spla
[10:33] <thealmighty> root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:23 0:00 [kthreadd]
[10:33] <thealmighty> root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:23 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
[10:33] <thealmighty> root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 11:23 0:00 [kworker/0:0H]
[10:33] <thealmighty> root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 11:23 0:00 [kworker/u16:0]
[10:34] <Carlin0> strano che ubot-it non abbia reagito
[10:36] <Guest14673> Buona domenica a tutti. Qualcuno può cortesemente aiutarmi a rendere visibili i file di Lubuntu 14.04 da Windows 8.1 ?
[10:37] <cristian__c> Guest14673: non è possibile
[10:37] <cristian__c> windows non supporta le partizioni ext
[10:37] <Guest14673> ecco..
[10:37] <cristian__c> Guest14673: la cosa migliore è usare una partizione dati ntfs
[10:38] <Guest14673> e quindi cosa devo fare? devo riformattare tutto?
[10:38] <cristian__c> che condivida i file di lubuntu e di windows
[10:38] <cristian__c> tra
[10:38] <Guest14673> mi puoi aiutare passo passo?
[10:38] <cristian__c> Guest14673: no
[10:38] <cristian__c> Guest14673: ridimensiona le partizioni, eventualmente
[10:38] <cristian__c> e ne crei una apposita
[10:38] <thealmighty> scusami cristian
[10:38] <thealmighty> ho floddato come un cane
[10:38] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ps aux | pastebinit
[10:39] <Guest14673> ok, ma non so come fare.. so che si usa gparted ma ci sono mille partizioni e nn vorrei fare casini...
[10:40] <cristian__c> Guest14673: bene, allora posta una schermata di gparted
[10:40] <cristian__c> !image | Guest14673
[10:40] <ubot-it> Guest14673: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[10:40] <thealmighty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13279109/
[10:40] <thealmighty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13279109/
[10:40] <thealmighty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13279109/
[10:40] <thealmighty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13279109/
[10:40] <thealmighty> madòòò che merda
[10:41] <thealmighty> cambio browser
[10:41] <thealmighty> fa cagare chrome
[10:41] <cristian__c> thealmighty: prova firefox
[10:42] <cristian__c> thealmighty: vedo tanti kworker, ma non proprio un flood di kworker
[10:43] <thealmighty> è una cosa buona?
[10:43] <cristian__c> thealmighty: con firefox va meglio?
[10:43] <Carlin0> thealmighty, puoi anche installare hexchat
[10:43] <cristian__c> e altre applicazioni?
[10:43] <thealmighty> si con firefox la chat va decisamente meglio
[10:43] <cristian__c> thealmighty: le temperature sono ok con intel?
[10:44] <cristian__c> thealmighty: prova altre applicazioni oltre al browser
[10:44] <thealmighty> nono ho mai abuto problemi di surriscaldamento
[10:44] <thealmighty> il pc è di nemmeno 2 anni
[10:44] <cristian__c> thealmighty: intendo in questo momento
[10:44] <thealmighty> non è proprio scattante ma va meglio
[10:44] <thealmighty> una domanda stupida
[10:45] <thealmighty> c'è la possibilità che i driver si "stabilizzino"?
[10:45] <thealmighty> e che selezionando nvidia io possa avere migliorie prossimamente?
[10:45] <cristian__c> thealmighty: non ho idea di quale sia il problema
[10:45] <cristian__c> a parte quei kworker
[10:46] <cristian__c> thealmighty: sì, ma non capisco perché un i7 ti dia tanti problemi
[10:46] <thealmighty> sarebbero processi?
[10:46] <cristian__c> sì
[10:46] <Guest14673> c'è un problema: i comandi dei tasti non fungono con lubuntu... come te la mando la schermata?
[10:47] <thealmighty> seleziona tasto destro copia poi su pastebin incolli
[10:47] <cristian__c> thealmighty: hai detto di aver riavviato il pc dopo la modifica a nvdia-settings, giusto?
[10:47] <Guest14673> (il pc è un Lenovo g50)
[10:47] <cristian__c> Guest14673: tasto stamp
[10:47] <thealmighty> certo cris
[10:48] <cristian__c> thealmighty: fai una cosa, controlla carico su cpu e consumo ram
[10:48] <cristian__c> anche se la ram non ha senso, sono 8 gb
[10:48] <thealmighty> come?
[10:48] <cristian__c> thealmighty: dal monitor di sistema / task manager
[10:49] <cristian__c> thealmighty: sopratutto tienilo d'occhio quando rallenta
[10:49] <thealmighty> dove lo trovo scusami
[10:50] <cristian__c> thealmighty: cerca nella dash
[10:50] <cristian__c> (logo ubuntu in alto a sinistra)
[10:50] <thealmighty> sisi okok
[10:50] <Guest14673> forse ce la faccio.. http://imgur.com/JP5QCV8
[10:50] <cristian__c> thealmighty: la nvidia è 740m, e non è proprio nuova
[10:51] <cristian__c> diciamo che è di un anno, due anni fa
[10:51] <thealmighty> eh lo so
[10:51] <thealmighty> di ram usa neanche un giga
[10:51] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ma i driver proprietari saranno supportati per circa una decina d'anni al massimo
[10:51] <cristian__c> forse 7-8
[10:52] <cristian__c> thealmighty: e la cpu?
[10:52] <thealmighty> le cpu nei loro picchi non superano il 12%
[10:52] <cristian__c> thealmighty: e allora il problema non è quello
[10:53] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ubuntu gnome l'hai già provato?
[10:53] <thealmighty> no
[10:53] <cristian__c> quello con gnome shell
[10:53] <cristian__c> thealmighty: io un giro in live lo farei per vedere se si comporta meglio di unity
[10:53] <thealmighty> diciamo che grosse esigenze non ne ho
[10:53] <thealmighty> xke sto iniziando adesso ad accostarmi ad ubuntu
[10:53] <thealmighty> e sempre in dual boot
[10:54] <thealmighty> diciamo che userei ubuntu solo per eclipse che va decisamente meglio rispetto a windows
[10:54] <thealmighty> e per iniziare ad imparare un po di cose
[10:54] <thealmighty> le prestazioni sono relative in questo momento
[10:55] <cristian__c> Guest14673:
[10:56] <Guest14673_> ho pensato di loggarmi da un altro pc così possiamo lavorare meglio
[10:56] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ok, allora resta come sei per adesso
[10:56] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: allora
[10:56] <thealmighty> ultima cosa cris e poi chiudo
[10:56] <thealmighty> come tolgo tutti quegli efi file che abbiamo visto ieri?!
[10:56] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: sda9 è 370 GB circa
[10:56] <thealmighty> perchè mi compaiono nel grub
[10:56] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: puoi ridurla, ma da live però
[10:57] <cristian__c> thealmighty: se tutto va, per il momento eviterei di toccarli
[10:57] <cristian__c> non rischiando casini
[10:57] <Guest14673_> ecco... e non ce l'ho più la live di Lubuntu... forse è meglio che ti spieghi cosa cerco di fare e mi consigli un po' di cose, altrimenti faccio, disfo, e chissà che ne viene fuori
[10:58] <thealmighty> quelli sicuro sono i residui dei tentativi fatti in precedenza
[10:59] <cristian__c> thealmighty: una cosa potresti farla al massimo
[10:59] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ovvero, nascondere le voci che non ti interessano o riorganizzare le voci stesss
[10:59] <cristian__c> stesse
[10:59] <cristian__c> del grub
[11:00] <cristian__c> se il problema è selezionare il sistema operativo all'avvio del pc
[11:00] <Guest14673_> molto semplicemente: mio padre ha acquistato un nuovo pc, Lenovo g50, con Windows 8.1. Dopo diversi anni, sono riuscito a persuaderlo a usare Linux. Io uso Ubuntu 14.04 lts, ma le preferivo l'interfaccia 10.04 (quella "più simile a XP", per capirci). Oggi mi sono abbastanza abituato, ma per mio padre che è appena arrivato da XP mi sembra troppo com
[11:00] <Guest14673_> plessa come inizio. Così ho provato a installare Lubuntu, che assomiglia di più a XP (ma la cui grafica è proprio molto limitata).
[11:00] <Guest14673_> Hai qualche consiglio su cosa fare?
[11:00] <thealmighty> okok vedo allora di trovare il modo di nasconderle per ora
[11:01] <thealmighty> cristian ti ringrazio tantissimo per la pazienza e la disponibilità
[11:01] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: c'è anche xubuntu, se il pc lo regge
[11:01] <Guest14673_> poi il problema dei file ecc.. si pone e quindi va risolto, ma forse a monte è meglio decidere che versione montare...
[11:01] <thealmighty> tornerò sicuro a rompere le palle ;)
[11:01] <Guest14673_> ma che differenze ci sono?
[11:01] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: inoltre puoi spostare il pannello anche in basso
[11:01] <thealmighty> buona domanica!!!
[11:01] <thealmighty> ciao a tutti
[11:01] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: xubuntu è anche più completo di lubuntu, e non molto più pesante
[11:01] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: cambia l'ambiente
[11:02] <Guest14673_> il pc lo regge di sicuro, perchè ha una buona fattezz
[11:02] <Guest14673_> 4 gb di ram
[11:02] <cristian__c> !grub | thealmighty
[11:02] <ubot-it> thealmighty: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[11:02] <Guest14673_> ecc
[11:02] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: allora vai di xubuntu
[11:02] <Guest14673_> aspetta però: quando ho provato a far girare la live di Ubuntu lo schermo è diventato tutto nero e non se n'è fatto più nulla..
[11:02] <cristian__c> !derivate | Guest14673_
[11:02] <ubot-it> Guest14673_: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/derivate | Download derivate: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download/derivate
[11:03] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: ubuntu ha unity
[11:03] <cristian__c> xubuntu ha xfce
[11:03] <cristian__c> come desktop environment
[11:04] <Guest14673_> per me è arabo... perdonami
[11:04] <Guest14673_> io lo uso, ma non lo capisco :)
[11:04] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: l'idea è: ridurre la partizione di lubuntu, creare una ntfs condivisa con windows e infine installare xubuntu nella partizione di lubuntu
[11:04] <Guest14673_> aspetta, dimmi una cosa:
[11:05] <thealmighty> che differenza c'è tra i driver intel e quelli di ubuntu?
[11:05] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ?
[11:05] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: xubuntu, di base, non è pesante quanto ubuntu
[11:06] <thealmighty> per quale motivo dovrei preferire i driver inter a quelli di ubuntu?
[11:06] <thealmighty> sono piu veloci?
[11:06] <cristian__c> thealmighty: non ho capito la domanda, gouro
[11:06] <Guest14673_> hai presente come si presenta Lubuntu? per es. col tastino che ricorda "Start" di Windows, con il gestore file PCManFM sulla barra, ecc... ecco, Ubuntu non ha queste cose, ha il Launcher o come si chiama, dove se non conosci i nomi delle applicazioni, non trovi nulla... Xubuntu com'è?
[11:06] <cristian__c> giuro
[11:07] <thealmighty> ahahah provo a rispiegarmi
[11:07] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: come ho scritto prima, il pannello lo puoi spostare anche in basso
[11:07] <thealmighty> in generale che driver è consigliato usare?
[11:07] <cristian__c> e volendo, aggiungerne anche altri in altre posizioni
[11:07] <Guest14673_> è tutto più ordinato e schematico in Lubuntu...
[11:07] <thealmighty> i proprietari o quelli di ubuntu?
[11:07] <Guest14673_> Non mi è chiaro cosa intendi con "lo puoi spostare anche in basso"... io ce l'ho già in basso...
[11:07] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: è personalizzabile
[11:07] <cristian__c> !xubuntu | Guest14673_
[11:07] <ubot-it> Guest14673_: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/derivate/xubuntu | md5: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15.04/release/MD5SUMS
[11:08] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: e ti fai un'idea dalle schermate, ma ancora meglio provarlo in live
[11:08] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: su lubuntu sì, su xubuntu è in alto di default, ma si sposta facilmente
[11:08] <cristian__c> se è quello il problema
[11:09] <cristian__c> thealmighty: allora
[11:09] <Guest14673_> ok, questo l'ho capito, ma il problema è il contenuto, non la posizione :)
[11:09] <cristian__c> thealmighty: di driver intel ci sono solo quelli open
[11:09] <cristian__c> thealmighty: per nvidia e amd il discorso è diverso
[11:09] <Guest14673_> il file che mi hai postato si apre in 2 stringhe... che devo fare?
[11:10] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ovvio che non ci sia confronto tra i driver proprietari nvidia e quelli open per le schede nvidia
[11:10] <Guest14673_> vedo solo questo: 586604cdb814f906f7c18345138f503b *xubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:10] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: non ti ho postato un file
[11:10] <Guest14673_> ecco...
[11:10] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: il primo link
[11:10] <cristian__c> !xubuntu
[11:10] <ubot-it> http://www.ubuntu-it.org/derivate/xubuntu | md5: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15.04/release/MD5SUMS
[11:11] <cristian__c> il secondo non ti serve, ora
[11:11] <thealmighty> ovvero?
[11:12] <Guest14673_> scusa, ma perchè mi consigli Xubuntu e non Ubuntu?
[11:12] <cristian__c> thealmighty: che se devi usare la nvidia, usa i driver proprietari, se ci sono
[11:12] <Guest14673_> il pc è nuovo... non lo regge?
[11:12] <cristian__c> e se la scheda non è troppo vecchia, ci sono
[11:12] <thealmighty> perfetto...e xke mi hai fatto selezionare intel nel tool?
[11:12] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: te l'ho detto prima su su
[11:13] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: xubuntu non è pesante quanto ubuntu, ed è più facilmente personalizzabile
[11:13] <cristian__c> thealmighty: per farti usare la scheda integrata meno esosa
[11:13] <thealmighty> oook
[11:13] <thealmighty> ora capisco!
[11:14] <Guest14673_> ok, allora comincio col fare una usb live di xubuntu poi ti riscrivo
[11:14] <cristian__c> thealmighty: consuma meno la intel, ma ovviamente non ha prestazioni da gaming
[11:14] <thealmighty> fottesega del gaming ;)
[11:14] <cristian__c> !usbwin | Guest14673_
[11:14] <ubot-it> Guest14673_: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[11:15] <thealmighty> ho scaricato java...in pacchetto tar.gz
[11:15] <thealmighty> come lo installo?
[11:15] <Guest14673_> non posso usare Unetbootin?
[11:16] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: meglio di no
[11:16] <cristian__c> spesso non viene digerito bene, sopratutto nei sistemi uefi
[11:16] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: c'è un bug molto serio sulla 15.04 e 15.10
[11:17] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: questo bug riguarda problemi del tool di ubuntu per la creazione dei supporti usb
[11:17] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: quindi, per il momento, la soluzione è creare la usb o da win con universal usb installer, oppure in ubuntu tramite il comando dd (da terminale)
[11:18] <cristian__c> thealmighty: allora, no
[11:18] <cristian__c> thealmighty: la maggior parte dei programmi scaricali dal software center
[11:19] <cristian__c> thealmighty: non usare ubuntu windows style, in materia download programmi
[11:19] <cristian__c> !info java
[11:19] <ubot-it> Package java does not exist in wily
[11:19] <thealmighty> okok
[11:19] <cristian__c> thealmighty: java comunque c'è nel software center
[11:20] <cristian__c> e anche eclipse
[11:20] <thealmighty> ma non l'ultima versione
[11:20] <cristian__c> chw immagino lo installo come dipendenza
[11:20] <thealmighty> a me serve la mars
[11:20] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ti serve quale java?
[11:20] <thealmighty> quello per far partire eclipse
[11:20] <cristian__c> numero versione?
[11:20] <thealmighty> jde
[11:20] <thealmighty> eh...non saprei preciso
[11:20] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ma eclipse dovrebbe partire senza problemi
[11:21] <cristian__c> col java dei repository
[11:21] <thealmighty> si ma io ho scaricato l'ultima versione di eclipse
[11:21] <thealmighty> e mi richiede java
[11:21] <thealmighty> sconsigli?
[11:21] <cristian__c> thealmighty: quella dei repo non funziona?
[11:21] <thealmighty> a quanto pare no!
[11:21] <cristian__c> intendo eclipse
[11:21] <thealmighty> ah eclipse suppongo di si
[11:22] <cristian__c> thealmighty: se non hai ragioni veramente necessarie e particolari
[11:22] <cristian__c> per scaricare la versione più recente di eclipse
[11:22] <cristian__c> (facendo conto che stai usando la 15.10)
[11:23] <cristian__c> !info eclipse
[11:23] <ubot-it> eclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.8.1-8 (wily), package size 15 kB, installed size 122 kB
[11:23] <cristian__c> 3.8.1
[11:23] <thealmighty> siamo alla 4.3 con eclipse
[11:24] <cristian__c> thealmighty: dipende sempre dalle tue particolari esigenze
[11:25] <thealmighty> programmare in c e c++
[11:25] <cristian__c> thealmighty: ma sappi comunque che qui non otterrai supporto per applicazioni scaricate fuori dai repository ufficiali di ubuntu
[11:25] <thealmighty> sisi infatti stiamo uscendo offtopic
[11:25] <thealmighty> scusami
[11:26] <cristian__c> thealmighty: quindi se installi una versione esterna di eclipse, è una cosa che riguarda solo te stesso
[11:26] <cristian__c> e non il canale di supporto a ubuntu
[11:26] <cristian__c> thealmighty: al massimo potresti installare java oracle
[11:27] <cristian__c> !java
[11:27] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Programmazione/Java
[11:27] <cristian__c> sezione oracle
[11:27] <thealmighty> ecco si!
[11:27] <thealmighty> magari metto quello
[11:27] <cristian__c> thealmighty: non avrai supporto a bug, problemi con l'os, ecc..
[11:27] <cristian__c> se fai quella scelta
[11:28] <cristian__c> almeno in questo canale
[11:28] <thealmighty> sisi ho capito ;)
[11:29] <thealmighty> ho appena installato eclipse del center
[11:29] <thealmighty> ed è epr java
[11:29] <thealmighty> non per c e c++
[11:29] <cristian__c> thealmighty: quello del software center è 3.8.1, e gli va bene anche openjdk
[11:29] <cristian__c> ovvero la versione open di javs
[11:29] <cristian__c> a
[11:30] <cristian__c> thealmighty: allora
[11:30] <cristian__c> thealmighty: eclipse ha i plugin
[11:30] <cristian__c> per i variclinguaggi
[11:30] <cristian__c> !eclipse | thealmighty
[11:30] <ubot-it> thealmighty: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Programmazione/Eclipse
[11:31] <cristian__c> Per installare un plugin occorre semplicemente scompattarlo nella cartella di installazione del programma. Quando si è installato il programma tramite i repository di Ubuntu è presente una cartella contenente i plugin in /usr/lib/eclipse/. Normalmente Eclipse rileva automaticamente i plugin affinché possano essere utilizzati dall'utente.
[11:31] <thealmighty> appena visto ;)
[11:31] <thealmighty> ti ringrazio
[11:31] <cristian__c> thealmighty: c'è anche un plugin per usare l'sdk android
[11:32] <thealmighty> sisi
[11:32] <cristian__c> di cui non ricordo il nome
[11:32] <thealmighty> ho programmato tempo fa in android
[11:32] <thealmighty> ma non mi entusiasma
[11:33] <cristian__c> !info openjdk-7-jdk
[11:33] <ubot-it> openjdk-7-jdk (source: openjdk-7): OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK). In component main, is optional. Version 7u85-2.6.1-5ubuntu0.15.10.1 (wily), package size 15989 kB, installed size 20443 kB
[11:34] <cristian__c> !info openjdk-8-jdk
[11:34] <ubot-it> openjdk-8-jdk (source: openjdk-8): OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK). In component universe, is optional. Version 8u66-b01-5 (wily), package size 8394 kB, installed size 38700 kB
[11:34] <cristian__c> !info openjdk-7-jre
[11:34] <ubot-it> openjdk-7-jre (source: openjdk-7): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component main, is optional. Version 7u85-2.6.1-5ubuntu0.15.10.1 (wily), package size 166 kB, installed size 521 kB
[11:34] <cristian__c> ecc...
[11:35] <cristian__c> beh, i pacchetti ci sono, thealmighty
[11:35] <Guest14673_> scusa cristian__c ma io non capisco.. questo universal usb installer gira su windows (è un file .exe) mentre io sono su un pc Ubuntu...
[11:35] <cristian__c> buon lavoro
[11:36] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: allora devi rimediare con il comando dd
[11:36] <cristian__c> se non hai un pc con windows
[11:36] <cristian__c> per i motivi spiegati prima
[11:36] <thealmighty> ti ringrazio tanto cristian
[11:36] <thealmighty> buona domenica!!!
[11:36] <cristian__c> di niente
[11:36] <thealmighty> fosse pieno il mondo di gente come te!
[11:38] <Guest14673_> il file .iso di Xubuntu ce l'ho su pc Ubuntu. L'altro pc, quello con Lubuntu è in dual boot con Win 8.1. Se devo installare da l'universal da win devo andare sull'altro e riscaricarmi il file xubuntu...
[11:38] <Guest14673_> Non facciamo prima se mi guidi a da terminale?
[11:38] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: beh, dipende
[11:38] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: dd è un solo comando, ma devi prima formattare la usb in fat32
[11:38] <Guest14673_> già fatto :)
[11:39] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: allora, dove si trova il file .iso di xubuntu?
[11:39] <Guest14673_> sul mio pc Ubuntu...avevo scaricato tuttte e tre le versioni
[11:39] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: in quale cartella?
[11:41] <Guest14673_> ah scusa... sulla scrivania
[11:41] <Guest14673_> nella cartella Software
[11:41] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: ls -l ~/Scrivania
[11:41] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: ls -l ~/Scrivania/Software
[11:41] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: il secondo comando
[11:42] <Guest14673_> negativo......passo da win perchè il file non è completo... devo cmq riscaricarlo...
[11:43] <Guest14673_> tanto vale che scarichi il tutto compreso l'usb installer su win e poi mi arrangio di là... dovrei farcela ;)
[11:43] <cristian__c> Guest14673_: ok
[11:43] <Guest14673_> mi applico, poi quando ho fatto ti scrivo di nuovo. Per ora grazie
[12:08] <mariox> Buongiorno, quando provo a scrivere ad esempio un file .img su usb tramite tasto destro-> "Creazione immagine disco" non compare alcuna finestra. Per scrivere il file su penna usb devo andare in Preferenze->Dischi. Quale potrebbe essere il problema?( Ho notato questo sia con Lubuntu 15.04 che con 15.10). Grazie!
[12:09] <cristian_c> mariox: utilizza dd
[12:09] <cristian_c> su 15.04 e 15.10 c'è un bug che porta problemi al tool usb disk creator
[12:10] <cristian_c> mariox: dd oppure universal usb installer su windows
[12:10] <mariox> ah ok, grazie
[12:31] <giuseppe1> ragazzi come faccio a ostacolare gli aggiornamenti della mia nvidia geforce 840m?
[12:32] <Carlin0> perchè dovresti ostacolarli ?
[12:32] <krabador> a "ostacolare" ?
[12:32] <krabador> hai installato il proprietario e ti vuoi tenere sempre quello?
[12:32] <giuseppe1> no no
[12:32] <giuseppe1> ho sbagliato
[12:32] <krabador> ecco
[12:32] <krabador> allora spiegati
[12:32] <giuseppe1> devo aggiornarli
[12:32] <krabador> piuttosto che fare domande da milioni di dollari
[12:32] <giuseppe1> ma non so come si fa
[12:32] <krabador> giuseppe1, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:33] <krabador> giuseppe1, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[12:33] <krabador> quest'ultimo produce un link
[12:33] <krabador> incollalo qui.
[12:33] <giuseppe1> ok
[12:33] <giuseppe1> aspetta
[12:33] <giuseppe1> li devo mettere in quell'ordine giusto
[12:33] <giuseppe1> ?
[12:34] <Carlin0> ovvio
[12:35] <giuseppe1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13281074/
[12:37] <krabador> giuseppe1 se il repository ubuntu non ne ha un altro, ufficialmente non puoi
[12:38] <krabador> giuseppe1, quale ubuntu, per favore?
[12:38] <Carlin0> giuseppe1, quando arrivano i normali aggiornamenti si aggiorna tutto
[12:38] <giuseppe1> 12.04
[12:39] <krabador> giuseppe1, il driver del repo è manutenuto dallo staff, sta a loro aggiornalo
[12:40] <giuseppe1> quindi
[12:40] <giuseppe1> non posso fare niente?
[12:40] <krabador> ufficialmente no
[12:40] <Carlin0> fai i normali aggiornamenti
[12:40] <krabador> giuseppe1, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade | pastebinit
[12:40] <giuseppe1> ma se aggiorno alla 14.04 non mi funziona più ubuntu
[12:41] <giuseppe1> metto quel comando?
[12:42] <krabador> giuseppe1, chi ha parlato di aggiornare alla 14.04?
[12:42] <giuseppe1> ma allora cosa intendete per normali aggiornamenti?
[12:44] <krabador> giuseppe1, da quanto tempo usi ubuntu?
[12:44] <krabador> parliamoci chiaro.
[12:44] <giuseppe1> poco ahahhah
[12:44] <giuseppe1> 2 settimane
[12:46] <krabador> manda quel comando , ed aggiornerai il sistema attuale, senza passaggi di versione
[12:46] <giuseppe1> ok
[12:46] <ExPBoy> e come sai che aggiornando a 14.04 non ti funziona più?
[12:46] <krabador> ovviamente incolla qui il link
[12:46] <giuseppe1> ok
[12:46] <krabador> giuseppe1,è gradito ,per favore , l'elenco di cpu , ram , e scheda video
[12:47] <krabador> modelli precisi, e non solo il marchio
[12:47] <giuseppe1> lo so perchè ho provato ad aggiornare alle 14.04 e non mi ha funzionato
[12:47] <giuseppe1> poi ho dovuto riistallare la 12.04
[12:47] <krabador> giuseppe1, magari installando direttamente 14.04...
[12:47] <krabador> come dire...
[12:47] <ExPBoy> sento odore di ppa
[12:47] <krabador> ExPBoy, trascura il naso
[12:47] <ExPBoy> :)
[12:48] <giuseppe1> non sto capendo?
[12:48] <krabador> giuseppe1 da bravo manderà il comando , ed avremo le risposte, tra l'altro necessarie, per fornire assistenza
[12:48] <giuseppe1> ok
[12:48] <krabador> se poi manda pure sudo lshw | pastebinit
[12:48] <krabador> fa veramente il bravo
[12:48] <giuseppe1> prima faccio questo o l'altro comando?
[12:48] <giuseppe1> dimmi tu
[12:48] <krabador> giuseppe1, sei dislessico?
[12:49] <krabador> va con ordine.
[12:49] <giuseppe1> ok
[12:49] <giuseppe1> comunque sono pure dislessico :-(
[12:49] <krabador> giuseppe1, basta dirlo
[12:50] <krabador> cosi' si evitano problemi
[12:50] <giuseppe1> ok scusa
[12:50] <giuseppe1> aspetta ma del primo che link ti devo mandare?
[12:55] <giuseppe1> scusa non ti seccare ma mi puoi rimandare il secondo comando
[12:56] <giuseppe1> che mi ha fatto riavviare il pc
[12:56] <krabador> giuseppe1, manda il link del primo
[12:57] <krabador> il secondo è sudo lshw | pastebinit
[12:57] <giuseppe1> ma a me con il primo comandi mi ha solo scaricato non mi ha lasciato lik
[12:57] <giuseppe1> link*
[12:58] <krabador> eeeh, sei stato disattento
[12:58] <krabador> o nel mandarlo
[12:58] <krabador> o nel notare
[12:58] <krabador> che rilascia il link
[12:58] <giuseppe1> lo rimetto?
[13:00] <krabador> adesso non ha senso
[13:00] <krabador> vai col secondo
[13:00] <giuseppe1> ok scusa
[13:01] <giuseppe1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13281309/
[13:01] <giuseppe1> questo è il link del secondo
[13:05] <Carlin0> e il primo ?
[13:06] <krabador> giuseppe1, con hardware a tua disposizione, è il caso che usi versione piu' recente di ubuntu
[13:06] <krabador> Carlin0, trollando l'ha perso
[13:06] <krabador> giuseppe1, scarica 15.10 , fa la pendrive usb, fallo partire in boot,e vedi se va
[13:06] <krabador> se va, puoi installare senza perdere dati
[13:06] <giuseppe1> la 15.10?
[13:06] <krabador> sulla stessa installazione che hai
[13:06] <krabador> giuseppe1, si
[13:06] <giuseppe1> ma da quando c'è?
[13:07] <krabador> dal 22 ottobre
[13:07] <giuseppe1> ok
[13:07] <giuseppe1> quindi la istallo
[13:08] <krabador> giuseppe1, se va in boot, ed hai intenzione di installare, e non vuoi perdere dati, fa partire l'installazione, ed al momento in cui ti chiede dove installare, selezioni "altro"
[13:08] <krabador> selezioni la root del precedente sistema
[13:08] <krabador> NON selezioni la formattazione
[13:08] <krabador> vai avanti
[13:08] <krabador> fai un nuovo utente
[13:08] <krabador> al riavvio hai /home/utentevecchio ed /home/utentenuovo
[13:08] <krabador> e poi passare i dati da uno all'altro
[13:09] <giuseppe1> io non ho niente in questo computer
[13:09] <giuseppe1> posso anche non tenere niente volendo
[13:10] <krabador> allora meglio, se parte 15.10 in sessione prova, installa tranquillamente
[13:10] <giuseppe1> ma devo scaricare la 15.10 e metterla in una usb
[13:10] <giuseppe1> con unetbootin?
[13:11] <krabador> hai solo ubuntu in questa macchina?
[13:11] <giuseppe1> si
[13:11] <Carlin0> e non hai un dvd ?
[13:12] <giuseppe1> no
[13:12] <krabador> giuseppe1, allora scarica la iso, apri il terminale, sudo dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdx
[13:12] <krabador> dove , al file.iso metti il percorso completo , di dove si trova il file
[13:12] <krabador> e x di sdx, corrisponde alla lettera di unità
[13:13] <krabador> della penna usb, che devi accuratamente smontare prima, e che scopri con sudo fdisl -l , come l'ha nominata il sistema
[13:13] <krabador> SENZA numero di partizione, nel comando dd.
[13:13] <krabador> smonti con sudo umount /dev/sdxx
[13:13] <krabador> x per lettera di unità,. x per numero di partizione
[13:14] <giuseppe1> mi mandi per favore il link da dove scaricare la 15.10
[13:15] <krabador> giuseppe1, internet non funziona?
[13:15] <krabador> giuseppe1, sei mai stato sul sito ufficiale ubuntu?
[13:15] <krabador> sia internazionale che italiano.
[13:15] <giuseppe1> si
[13:15] <giuseppe1> ah okok
[13:15] <giuseppe1> lascia stare
[13:15] <krabador> scommetto che se ci torni...
[13:15] <krabador> ;)
[13:16] <giuseppe1> 1 ora devo aspettare :-(
[13:16] <giuseppe1> vabbe
[13:16] <giuseppe1> grazie
[13:17] <giuseppe1> ma secondo te quindi dopo che scarico la 15.10 avro i drive aggiornati o dopo che la scarico POTRÒ aggiornarli?
[13:18] <krabador> giuseppe1, ma quanto li vuoi aggiornati
[13:18] <krabador> sti driver?
[13:18] <giuseppe1> ti spiego
[13:18] <krabador> la 15.10 ha dentro un driver risalente ad un mese fa
[13:18] <krabador> al massimo
[13:18] <giuseppe1> ho un gioco
[13:18] <krabador> che sicuramente è molto meglio di quello che stai usando in 12.10
[13:18] <krabador> 12.04
[13:18] <giuseppe1> e mi da problemi con la opengl
[13:19] <giuseppe1> e ho letto che per risolvere dovrei aggiornare i drive
[13:19] <krabador> se metti 15.10 , puoi mettere il ppa, che cura uno staff di dev ubuntu, per avere sempre il driver nvidia aggiornato
[13:19] <giuseppe1> ok
[13:19] <giuseppe1> il comando per mettere il ppa qual'è che me lo salvo?
[13:20] <Carlin0> giuseppe1, non usare ppa
[13:20] <krabador> giuseppe1, lo fai dopo
[13:20] <krabador> Carlin0, eeh
[13:20] <krabador> Carlin0, mi dispiace
[13:20] <krabador> ma questo lo puo' mettere
[13:20] <krabador> Carlin0, è ufficiale
[13:20] <krabador> curato dallo staff
[13:21] <giuseppe1> quindi poi come lo metto il ppa krabador?
[13:21] <krabador> giuseppe1, tu installa, poi torna qui
[13:21] <giuseppe1> ok
[13:21] <giuseppe1> tu ci sei sempre?
[13:21] <krabador> che te lo dico adesso , è molto probabile che tu possa avere problemi
[13:24] <krabador> giuseppe1, è estremamente possibile che il gioco di cui parli , vada bene con il driver nvidia che trovi nei repository di 15.10, senza aggiunte esterne
[13:24] <krabador> poi, per averlo sempre aggiornato, aggiungi il ppa
[13:25] <giuseppe1> ok
[13:32] <Guest14673_> rieccomi. Credo di aver copiato finalmente xubuntu sulla chiavetta. Ora ho riavviato il pc con Win entrando nel bios per far partire da chiavetta MA:
[13:32] <Guest14673_> ho 2 opzioni per usb: USB HDD e EFI USB Device
[13:32] <Guest14673_> quale devo lanciare?
[13:33] <Carlin0> usb hdd
[13:33] <Guest14673_> proviamo
[13:34] <Guest14673_> e in effetti..... :)
[13:44] <Guest14673_> (chiedo scusa per la pausa...la figlia chiamava :) ) ora avrei bisogno di essere guidato passo passo per trasformare una partizione per Lubuntu che ho da poco installato; una per Xubuntu; lasciare Win 8.1 e infine creare una partizione DATI visibile da tutti i SO suddetti
[13:49] <cristian_c> Guest14673_:
[13:49] <Guest14673_> ci sono :)
[13:50] <cristian_c> Guest14673_: sei sul desktop della live di xubuntu?
[13:50] <Guest14673_> sì
[13:50] <Guest14673_> ma ti sto scrivendo dall'altro pc
[13:50] <Guest14673_> quindi possiamo lavorare
[13:50] <cristian_c> Guest14673_: stai scrivendo dalla live?
[13:51] <Guest14673_> no, dal pc con Ubuntu
[13:51] <cristian_c> Guest14673_: collegati da xubuntu , che è meglio
[13:51] <cristian_c> (anche)
[13:52] <perseus9> salve ragazzi a chi posso chiedere una mano per un problema urgente?
[13:53] <cristian_c> !aiuto
[13:53] <ubot-it> per cortesia non chiedere il permesso di chiedere, semplicemente formula la domanda (tutta su una riga, in modo tale che gli altri possano leggerla e seguirla con facilità). Se qualcuno conosce la risposta ti risponderà :-)
[13:53] <cristian_c> perseus9: urgente o no, è supporto volontario
[13:54] <Guest14673> ci sono
[13:54] <cristian_c> Guest14673: posta una schermata di gparted
[13:54] <cristian_c> !image
[13:54] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[13:54] <Guest14673> non e installlato e poi la versione live mi sballa tutta la tastiera..
[13:55] <AleCasta> buongiorno, vi posso postare un'immagine su imgur dell'errore che mi dà all'avvio?
[13:56] <perseus9> Stamattina ho provato ad aggiornare Ubuntu dalla versione 14.04 alla 15.04. Una volta terminata l'installazione Ubuntu non è ripartito e in una schermata nera è comparsa la scritta '[Boot] kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!''. Come posso risolvere? In questo momento ho avviato la live della 14.04, c'è qualche comando da terminale c
[13:56] <perseus9> he posso usare?
[13:58] <AleCasta> https://imgur.com/p4uowXZ
[13:59] <cristian_c> Guest14673: è semplicemente il layout americano
[13:59] <cristian_c> nulla di che
[13:59] <Guest14673> lo so, ma i tasti non corrispondono, quindi non riesco a scrivere bene
[14:00] <cristian_c> perseus9: avevi aggiunto dei ppa?
[14:00] <cristian_c> Guest14673: al limite , è risolvibile
[14:00] <Guest14673> cmq non capisco come lanciare gparted> mi dice che ci vanno i permessi di root
[14:00] <cristian_c> Guest14673: sudo gparted
[14:00] <cristian_c> e si aprirà senza problemi
[14:00] <Guest14673> ottimo
[14:01] <perseus9> cristian_c no non avevo aggiunto nulla
[14:02] <Guest14673> mi ridai il link per mandarti l-immagine
[14:03] <cristian_c> !image
[14:03] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[14:05] <AleCasta> avete visto l'immagine?
[14:06] <Guest14673> https://imgur.com/4RzKDAf
[14:06] <cristian_c> AleCasta: ma sei in live?
[14:07] <cristian_c> Guest14673: ok , la sda9 non è montata
[14:07] <cristian_c> quella con ext4
[14:07] <cristian_c> Guest14673: hai dati importanti nella partizione?
[14:07] <Guest14673> no
[14:08] <AleCasta> si sono in live
[14:08] <cristian_c> perseus9: prova ad avviare da modalità di ripristino
[14:08] <Guest14673> o meglio ce lubuntu
[14:08] <Guest14673> perdona l ortografia...
[14:08] <cristian_c> Guest14673: ok
[14:08] <perseus9> come faccio cristian_c?
[14:09] <cristian_c> Guest14673: è quasi del tutto vuota
[14:09] <Guest14673> si si ce solo il so
[14:09] <cristian_c> Guest14673: fai doppio clic su quella riga e posta la nuova schermata
[14:10] <cristian_c> perseus9: hai presente la schermata del grub?
[14:10] <cristian_c> AleCasta: quindi, ottieni quell'errore quando fai partire la live?
[14:11] <AleCasta1> no ottengo l'errore se faccio partire la usb, ma riesco comunque a far partire la live dal bios
[14:11] <Guest14673> https://imgur.com/wJ16xdI
[14:11] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: quindi ottieni l'errore avviando la usb
[14:11] <AleCasta1> si
[14:11] <cristian_c> facendo il boot da usb
[14:12] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: come hai creato la live usb?
[14:12] <AleCasta1> in che senso?
[14:12] <perseus9> sì cristian_c ci sono, poi cosa faccio?
[14:13] <cristian_c> Guest14673: fai clic su close,e poi fai clic destro sulla riga, invece che doppio clic
[14:13] <cristian_c> perseus9: che scelte ti da?
[14:13] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: come hai creato il supporto usb?
[14:14] <perseus9> Ubuntu, Opzioni avanzate per Ubuntu, alcune di Windows, EFI/ubuntu/mokmanager.efi
[14:15] <cristian_c> perseus9: oozioni avanzate
[14:15] <cristian_c> opzioni
[14:15] <perseus9> qui alternate ci sono le versioni di Linux e la recovery mode della versione
[14:16] <cristian_c> perseus9: recovery mode
[14:16] <cristian_c> del kernel più recente
[14:16] <AleCasta1> con 15.10...se ti ricordi ieri mi hai aiutato a uscire da quell'errore di installazione e ora ho il problema che non mi legge più Win7
[14:17] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: sì, che hai provato a installare su partizioni windows, probabilmente
[14:17] <AleCasta1> si esatto
[14:17] <AleCasta1> si riesce a rimediare?
[14:17] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: ma non hai risposto alla domanda di poco fa
[14:17] <perseus9> mi dà quell'errore: Kernel panic - not syncing: attempt to kill init! exitcode=0x00007f00
[14:18] <AleCasta1> si scusa ho creato il supporto con Lilo
[14:18] <cristian_c> perseus9: posta la schermata
[14:18] <cristian_c> la foto, diciamo
[14:18] <cristian_c> !image | perseus9
[14:18] <ubot-it> perseus9: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[14:18] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: beh, da quale so?
[14:18] <cristian_c> os
[14:19] <perseus9> ok provvedo
[14:19] <AleCasta1> Win7
[14:19] <cristian_c> !usbwin | AleCasta1
[14:19] <ubot-it> AleCasta1: Scarica Universal USB Installer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ | Installalo su Windows e lancialo: lui si occuperà di trasferire l'immagine ISO su USB. Guida: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows | Opzionalmente questo programma può anche scaricare lui stesso l'immagine ISO
[14:20] <Guest14673> dopo che ho fatto close, se clicco sulla riga non succede nulla
[14:20] <cristian_c> Guest14673: clic destro
[14:20] <cristian_c> non clic sinistro
[14:21] <Guest14673> no scusa, ho sbagliato
[14:22] <Guest14673> infatti. ma che cosa devo selezionare dopo che ho cliccato col destro
[14:22] <cristian_c> Guest14673: resize c'è?
[14:22] <cristian_c> resize/move
[14:22] <Guest14673> si
[14:23] <cristian_c> scegli quello
[14:23] <Guest14673> ok, e a quanto lo metto
[14:23] <Guest14673> bastano 40 gb
[14:23] <Guest14673> oo meno visto che di fatto non lo usera
[14:23] <Guest14673> potremmo anche toglierlo tutto lubuntu
[14:24] <cristian_c> !image ! Guest14673
[14:24] <ubot-it> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:24] <cristian_c> !image | Guest14673
[14:24] <ubot-it> Guest14673: Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[14:25] <Guest14673> https://imgur.com/lx9uhXb
[14:26] <perseus9> cristian_c http://imgur.com/0KcUIMm
[14:27] <cristian_c> Guest14673: tu vorresti ridurre la partizione di lubuntu e installare xubuntu al suo posto
[14:27] <Guest14673> esatto
[14:27] <cristian_c> Guest14673: quanto spazio vorresti dare a xubuntu e quanto alla partizione dati condivisa?
[14:27] <cristian_c> il punto sta tutto qui
[14:28] <Guest14673> il max possibile ai dati, e tutto quello che serve a xubuntu, considerando che sara un pc usato per lavoro e quindi verranno scaricati programmi e quant-altro
[14:28] <Guest14673> ma io non me ne intendo, e mi affido a voi
[14:29] <AleCasta1> hai idea di cosa possa significare l'errore?
[14:29] <cristian_c> perseus9: allora
[14:30] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: hai aperto i link di universal usb installer?
[14:30] <cristian_c> Guest14673: è una domanda da un milione di dollari
[14:31] <cristian_c> Guest14673: solo tu puoi sapere quanto e come verrò utilizzato il sistema
[14:31] <Guest14673> 50 gb possono bastare a Xubuntu?
[14:31] <cristian_c> e quindi di quanto spazio approssimativamente avrai bisogno
[14:31] <cristian_c> Guest14673: sì, certo bastano, anche installando diverse applicazioni
[14:31] <Guest14673> io uso ubuntu e gli ho lasciato 40 gb. i dati sono a parte
[14:31] <cristian_c> e non troppi dati
[14:32] <Guest14673> ok, allora lasciaone 50 e i dati li mettiamo a parte
[14:32] <cristian_c> Guest14673: in pratica, puoi fare 50 GB a xubuntu e il resto alla partizione dati
[14:32] <AleCasta1> si devo riportare l'iso su usb e riprovare da capo?
[14:32] <Guest14673> si
[14:32] <cristian_c> Guest14673: dunque, ora ti spiego come procedere
[14:32] <Guest14673> grazie
[14:33] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: invece che lilo, usa universal
[14:33] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: e riprovi a fare il boot
[14:33] <AleCasta1> ok
[14:34] <cristian_c> perseus9: che scelte hai in opzioni avanzate, esattamente?
[14:34] <cristian_c> (posta schermata)
[14:35] <perseus9> ok cristian_c
[14:36] <krabador> AleCasta1, formatta la pendrive, fat32, prima
[14:36] <cristian_c> Guest14673: hai presente https://imgur.com/lx9uhXb ?
[14:37] <Guest14673> si
[14:38] <perseus9> http://imgur.com/Jxi5BDy ecco cristian_c
[14:38] <krabador> Guest14673, "ora avrei bisogno di essere guidato passo passo per trasformare una partizione per Lubuntu che ho da poco installato; una per Xubuntu; lasciare Win 8.1 e infine creare una partizione DATI visibile da tutti i SO suddetti" ---> porto anche un caffè ?
[14:39] <AleCasta1> ok ragazzi sto rifacendo la usb
[14:39] <cristian_c> Guest14673: trascina il lembo della freccetta a destra
[14:39] <Guest14673> ahah perdoneami... ma fosse il mio pc rischierei da solo, invece e per mio padre..
[14:39] <cristian_c> Guest14673: verso sinistra, fino a raggihngere i 50
[14:39] <cristian_c> gb
[14:39] <krabador> Guest14673, :)
[14:40] <flex> buon giorno
[14:40] <krabador> !ciao | flex
[14:40] <ubot-it> flex: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[14:40] <flex> anzi, buona domenica
[14:41] <Guest14673> fatto. ora clicco sul tasto Resize move
[14:41] <Guest14673> giusto?
[14:42] <cristian_c> Guest14673: posta schermata
[14:43] <Guest14673> https://imgur.com/aZVTRVF
[14:43] <AleCasta1> ok sono in live dopo aver rifatto la usb
[14:46] <flex> qualcuno mi può forse dare una mano? : ho comprato da poco un eeebox eb 1036 ed installato "ubuntu mate", nessun problema. mi serviva di far girare il cad Draftsight, scaricato e gira ma quando la freccia entra nella zona del disegno si muove a scatti, immagino che sia un problema di scheda video, ho visto che la scheda video è integrata con ram co
[14:46] <flex> ndivisa. Volevo entrare dal UEFI bios forzare un tot di RAM solo per la parte grafica, ma non so come fare, consigli?
[14:46] <krabador> flex, per bios e uefi , leggi il manuale
[14:47] <krabador> flex, non sono tutti uguali.
[14:47] <AleCasta1> aprendo gparted mi dà partitions 2,3 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably beacuse it/they are in use. As a reult, the old partitions will remain in use. You should reboot now before making other changes
[14:47] <flex> sai dove posso trovarlo? la versione è la 2.10.1208
[14:47] <cristian_c> Guest14673: ok, premi resize
[14:48] <krabador> AleCasta1, scusa, che problema hai?
[14:48] <cristian_c> Guest14673: e riposta schermata
[14:48] <krabador> flex, sul sito del produttore
[14:48] <AleCasta1> il pc non mi legge più Win7 perchè ho fatto l'errore di installare Linux su una partizione Windows
[14:48] <perseus9> cristian_c come devo fare ora?
[14:49] <Guest14673> https://imgur.com/odY1h4w
[14:49] <krabador> AleCasta1, non prendertela, ma non si puo' "installare Linux su una partizione Windows"
[14:50] <AleCasta1> lo so krabador, lo so :( mea immensa culpa
[14:50] <krabador> AleCasta1, quindi che devi fare adesso?
[14:50] <cristian_c> perseus9: invece che 3.13.0-68, scegli 3.13.0-65
[14:50] <AleCasta1> dovrei provare a recuperare Win7, se c'è modo, senza perdere i file
[14:50] <krabador> AleCasta1, "non si puo' "installare Linux su una partizione Windows" " non nel senso che se lo fai causa problemi, non si puo' proprio fare
[14:50] <fry_1986> buon pomeriggio
[14:50] <perseus9> cristian_c stesso errore, così con tutti :(
[14:51] <krabador> AleCasta1, se devi ripristinare windows, segui documentazione ufficiale microsoft
[14:51] <fry_1986> vorrei chiedere un aiuto tecnico sull'istallazione di ubuntu...
[14:51] <fry_1986> è il posto giusto?
[14:51] <krabador> da live puoi accedere alle partizioni esistenti, e se non gli è successo nulla precedentemente , puoi gestire i files
[14:51] <cristian_c> Guest14673: ok, hai circa 320 Gb di spazio non allocato
[14:51] <krabador> fry_1986, chiedi
[14:52] <cristian_c> Guest14673: clic destro su quei 319 e passa
[14:52] <fry_1986> grazie. sto provando ad istallare ubuntu... ho seguito tutti i passaggi creando una usb per l'istallazione
[14:52] <fry_1986> faccio partire il pc
[14:52] <cristian_c> perseus9: anch con 3.13.0-32?
[14:53] <fry_1986> mi appare la schermata dove posso selezionare l'opzione prova senza istallare
[14:53] <Guest14673> l-unica opzione possibile dal tasto dx e New. Clicco?
[14:53] <perseus9> sì purtroppo
[14:53] <krabador> fry_1986, scrivi la situazione tutta insieme, non seminare linee
[14:55] <AleCasta1> krabador ho provato con un cd di ripristino, ma il pc proprio non "vede" Win7
[14:55] <fry_1986> ok, sorry. cmq mi esce una stringa in cui è scritto "(initramfs) mount: mounting/dev/....... invalid argument can not mount ecc ecc
[14:56] <krabador> fry_1986, puoi dare dettagli del pc in questione?
[14:56] <cristian_c> Guest14673: sì, scegli new
[14:57] <Guest14673> fatto
[14:57] <cristian_c> perseus9: quindi, tutti i kernel della lista ti danno il kernel panic?
[14:57] <fry_1986> si è un netbook packard bell dot s
[14:57] <perseus9> sì tutti cristian_c
[14:57] <krabador> AleCasta1, mi spiace, assistenza win, non è tema di questo canale. Come ti ho detto, in live puoi , se non è successo niente di grave alle partizioni, accedere ad esse per gestire i dati
[14:58] <Guest14673> coe file system metto ntfs?
[14:58] <cristian_c> Guest14673: sì
[14:58] <krabador> fry_1986, con precisione per favore
[14:58] <AleCasta1> vi posso mettere uno screen delle partizioni?
[14:58] <Guest14673> label lascio bianco?
[14:58] <cristian_c> Guest14673: e una volta impostato, riposta schermata di gparted, per vedere il risultato finale
[14:59] <cristian_c> Guest14673: label, a piacere
[14:59] <krabador> AleCasta1, leggi quello che ti si dice?
[15:00] <Guest14673> https://imgur.com/FiD8aIW
[15:00] <AleCasta1> si krabador ma quell'errore che mi dà all'apertura di gparted è materia di Linux, mi pare
[15:00] <krabador> AleCasta1, credo che tu non abbia capito, che se hai martellato le partizioni, non è tema di questo canale riparartele
[15:01] <cristian_c> AleCasta1: probabilmente, hai toccato alcune partizioni di 'windows'
[15:02] <krabador> AleCasta1, chiudi gparted, apri il gestore file, nautilus, se sono listate li dentro, puoi cliccarci e vedere se le monta, se lo fa, e non ci sono ulteriori problemi, puoi gestire i dati
[15:03] <fry_1986> inserendo il numero di serie del pc sul sito della packard bell mi dice soltanto "dot m" non dot s...
[15:03] <krabador> fry_1986, cpu, ram, scheda video
[15:03] <krabador> modelli precisi, non solo marchi
[15:04] <fry_1986> ok. ram 2gb, processore atom 1.55ghz, schada video integrata vga
[15:04] <AleCasta1> fatto, grazie. Vedo i programmi che avevo istallato in Windows ma non i file
[15:04] <krabador> fry_1986, di quale ubuntu hai fatto la pendrive?
[15:05] <fry_1986> ubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso
[15:05] <cristian_c> Guest14673: perfetto
[15:06] <krabador> fry_1986, controlla l'md5 del file iso che hai scaricato
[15:06] <cristian_c> Guest14673: ora fai clic sull'icona Applica (icona segno di spunta verde)
[15:06] <krabador> !md5 | fry_1986
[15:06] <ubot-it> fry_1986: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[15:06] <Guest14673> ok, ora?
[15:06] <AleCasta1> o meglio, ne vedo alcuni
[15:07] <fry_1986> ok grazie. ora controllo
[15:08] <cristian_c> Guest14673: ha applicato le modifiche senza errori?
[15:10] <cristian_c> perseus9:
[15:10] <Guest14673> sta applicando.... appena finisce ti dico. Grazie
[15:10] <cristian_c> perseus9: puoi accedere a una live?
[15:11] <perseus9> sì sì
[15:11] <cristian_c> perseus9: bene, avviala e collegati da lì
[15:11] <perseus9> ho creato una live usb della versione 14.04 cristian_c
[15:11] <perseus9> e da lì poi cosa devo fare?
[15:12] <cristian_c> perseus9: collegati in chat dalla live
[15:12] <perseus9> ok
[15:12] <flex> krabador, ho guardato sul sito asus ma non trovo manuali di bios, solo del prodotto di cui sul bios non dicono nulla...
[15:13] <cristian_c> flex: modello esatto eeebox?
[15:13] <flex> eeebox eb 1036
[15:14] <flex> krabador, eeebox eb 1036
[15:14] <streamer> Buonsalve, ho una partizione con ubuntu/windows 7 su un pc portatile. Oggi ho formattato la partizione w7 per installare il SO da zero. Il problema che mi si presenta ora è che al riavvio non appare più la tipica schermata dove posso scegliere se bootare ubu o w7. Come posso risolvere? Grazie
[15:14] <flex> kabrador, http://www.asus.com/it/Commercial-Desktop/EB1036/HelpDesk_Download/
[15:15] <cristian_c> celeron j1900
[15:15] <Carlin0> streamer, hai formattato win o ubuntu ?
[15:15] <streamer> Carlin0, ubuntu!
[15:16] <Carlin0> streamer, ma devi reinstallare ?
[15:16] <perseus9> cristian_c ci sono
[15:16] <cristian_c> perseus9: ls -l /media
[15:17] <streamer> Carlin0, ho già reinstallato W7 sulla partizione che ho formattato
[15:17] <cristian_c> !paste | perseus9
[15:17] <ubot-it> perseus9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[15:17] <Carlin0> streamer, intendevo : devi reinstallar eubuntu ?
[15:17] <Guest14673> Ti ho messo 2 schermate insieme https://imgur.com/a/7WESc
[15:17] <perseus9> cosa devo incollare_
[15:17] <perseus9> ?
[15:18] <streamer> Carlin0, no voglio solo che appaia di nuovo la schermata del dual boot. La partizione ubuntu non la voglio toccare
[15:18] <cristian_c> flex: https://www.asus.com/it/Commercial-Desktop/EB1036/HelpDesk_Manual/
[15:18] <krabador> streamer, se c'è solo ubuntu, la schermata se ripristinata, non serve a nulla
[15:18] <krabador> streamer, installa l'altro sistema e poi ripristini grub, seguendo la guida
[15:18] <krabador> !grub | streamer
[15:18] <ubot-it> streamer: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[15:18] <Carlin0> streamer, la schermata del dual boot senz aubuntu non può apparire
[15:19] <krabador> streamer, ma ubuntu l'hai installato dentro windows ?
[15:20] <cristian_c> Guest14673: puoi chiudere gparted
[15:20] <streamer> signori forse non mi sono spiegato. Ho due partizioni, A e B. Su A c'è Ubuntu. Su B c'era w7, poi ho formattato e ho riinstallato w7. Ora però , a differenza di prima non appare la schermata dual boot. Non hoinstallato ubuntu dentro windows
[15:21] <cristian_c> Guest14673: avvia l'installer e fermati al menù di scelta
[15:21] <flex> cristian_c, il primo .pdf dici, perché il manuale in italiano non dice un fico secco!
[15:21] <krabador> streamer, infatti non ti eri spiegato
[15:21] <cristian_c> Guest14673: postando la schermata
[15:21] <krabador> streamer, "<streamer> Buonsalve, ho una partizione con ubuntu/windows 7 su un pc portatile."
[15:21] <streamer> krabador, mi sono espresso male
[15:21] <krabador> streamer, win mette il suo bootloader, ripristina grub
[15:21] <cristian_c> perseus9: apri un terminale e digita il comando
[15:22] <krabador> streamer, gli scenari sono estremamente variabili
[15:22] <krabador> !grub | streamer
[15:22] <ubot-it> streamer: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[15:22] <Carlin0> [16:15:32] <Carlin0> streamer, hai formattato win o ubuntu ?
[15:22] <Carlin0> [16:15:45] <streamer> Carlin0, ubuntu!
[15:22] <krabador> tra l'altro.
[15:22] <Carlin0> buh ...
[15:22] <streamer> ripeto, mi sono espresso male
[15:22] <streamer> seguo questo?
[15:23] <streamer> !grub | streamer
[15:23] <ubot-it> streamer, please see my private message
[15:23] <streamer> !grub
[15:23] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/ | Per ripristinare Grub: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Grub/Ripristino
[15:23] <Guest14673> https://imgur.com/ZVDuEV7
[15:23] <cristian_c> !grub
[15:23] <cristian_c> streamer: secondo link
[15:23] <Carlin0> streamer, hai uefi ?
[15:23] <krabador> streamer, ti si deve dire una terza volta? Se c'è ubuntu, ed hai installato win, ripristina grub
[15:24] <streamer> krabador, non so, ti faccio sapere
[15:24] <cristian_c> Guest14673: c'era lubuntu 14.04.3?
[15:25] <cristian_c> sulla sda9
[15:25] <Guest14673> si
[15:25] <cristian_c> Guest14673: allora vai con la scelta preimpostata
[15:25] <perseus9> mi dice che non puo accedere cristian_c
[15:26] <cristian_c> 'elimina ubuntu 14.04.3 lts e reinstalla'
[15:26] <cristian_c> !paste | perseus9
[15:26] <ubot-it> perseus9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[15:29] <perseus9> avevo digitato male cristian_c
[15:29] <perseus9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13283591/
[15:30] <cristian_c> perseus9: ls -l /mnt
[15:32] <perseus9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13283657/ cristian_c
[15:33] <cristian_c> perseus9: puoi postare una schermata del file manager?
[15:33] <perseus9> come lo apro_
[15:35] <cristian_c> flex: pagina 42 del manuale
[15:35] <cristian_c> guarda caso, la risposta a tutte le domande dell'universo
[15:35] <cristian_c> perseus9: dalla dash (logo di ubuntu in alto a sinistra)
[15:36] <cristian_c> 'entrare nelle impostazioni del bios', 'accesso rapido al bios'
[15:36] <flex> cristian_c, lo so come si entra nel bios, la mia domanda era un'altra
[15:37] <krabador> flex, i bios non sono tutti uguali
[15:37] <krabador> hanno delle similitudini
[15:37] <flex> cristian_c come forzare un tot di ram condivisa solo per la scheda grafica integrata
[15:37] <perseus9> cristian_c se intendi l Archive Manager non compare nulla, vuoto
[15:37] <krabador> ma non sono uguali, o entri e listi le opzioni che hai , in modo da poter provare ad indicare
[15:38] <krabador> oppure ci possiamo girare i pollici
[15:38] <krabador> flex, se hai un atom, in quella macchina, tra l'altro ubuntu con unity è la peggiore scelta che puoi fare
[15:40] <flex> cristian_c, ok, speravo ci fossero dei manuali che io non trovavo e qualcuno poteva darmi una dritta su dove trovarli, mi hanno detto di guardare sul sito del produttore ma non c'è nulla riguardo al bios.
[15:41] <flex> Krabador, adesso mi scollego, entro nel bios e poi listo quello che vedo.
[15:42] <cristian_c> flex: c'è anche scritto, nel manuale, che il bios non andrebbe toccato, ad esclusioni di due possibili motivazioni
[15:42] <cristian_c> e
[15:42] <cristian_c> perseus9: file manager, nautilus
[15:43] <Carlin0> flex, se la ram è condivisa la gpu dovrebbe prenderla al bisogno senza quantitativi fissi
[15:44] <cristian_c> ma lui ha un celeron j1900 bay trail
[15:44] <cristian_c> ovvero un atom bay trail dopato
[15:44] <cristian_c> con gli steroidi
[15:45] <cristian_c> diciamo, un atom a uso desktop
[15:45] <Guest14912> ciao
[15:45] <krabador> possono esserci impostazioni per assegnare ram alla video integrata
[15:45] <krabador> ma non in tutti gli scenari
[15:46] <Guest14912> ho installato ubuntu 13.10 su un pc
[15:46] <krabador> !ciao | Guest14912
[15:46] <ubot-it> Guest14912: Ciao! Benvenuto in #ubuntu-it
[15:46] <krabador> Guest14912, 13.10 ?
[15:46] <Carlin0> Guest14912, la 13.10 è fuori supporto
[15:46] <Guest14912> nn riesco ad installare flash payer e niente
[15:47] <Carlin0> ovvio Guest14912
[15:47] <Guest14912> quindi devo installare la versione 14
[15:47] <krabador> Guest14912, o 14.04.3 o 15.10
[15:47] <krabador> il resto è over.
[15:48] <flex> Carlin0, funziona tutto senza spasmi tranne per un cad (a me serve) che funzionava a meraviglia su un netbook oramai vecchio da vergognarsene!
[15:49] <Guest14912> certo che e styrano che nn si riesce a installare nulla
[15:49] <Carlin0> non è strano è normale
[15:49] <perseus9> http://imgur.com/YkA4hDS cristian_c qui?
[15:49] <flex> per cui, immaginando che il problema sia proprio la dinamicità della ram condivisa ho letto che se ne può fissare una parte solo per la scheda grafica integrata, volevo provare se funzionava in questo modo.
[15:50] <Carlin0> flex, hai detto bene " funzionava"
[15:50] <krabador> flex, non in tutti i bios, questa cosa è possibile
[15:50] <krabador> flex, stai usando la macchina sbagliata, con le caratteristiche sbagliate, per lavorare di grafica
[15:50] <krabador> questo , spassionatamente
[15:51] <Guest14912> ci provo ad aggiornarlo
[15:51] <krabador> Guest14912, versioni fuori supporto è piu' che normale, sono down i repositories
[15:52] <Carlin0> Guest14912, devi reinstallare
[15:52] <Guest14912> ok
[15:52] <Carlin0> 14.04 o 15.10
[15:53] <flex> Krabador, ma se su un netbook di una vita fa lo stesso programma funzionava, non credo che con un pc molto più recente ci sia possa essere una differenza tale da giustificare il suo funzionamento " a scatti", o mi sbaglio?
[15:54] <Carlin0> flex, un pc di una vita fa può avere un a cpu quad core e uno recente una cpu del cactus (non so se mi sono capito)
[15:54] <flex> Krabador, il mio eeepc su cui girava bene Draftsight è un eeepc1000he, avrà 7 anni (non ricordo esattamente)
[15:55] <krabador> flex, le schede video, a parte scontatamente in potenza, sono sfruttate molto variabilmente dal driver che le supporta,ed implementate molto variabilmente in linux
[15:55] <krabador> flex, ad esempio, il nouveau, il driver open per nvidia, è un disastro
[15:55] <krabador> flex, non si puo' ragionare cosi' superficialmente , specialmente se si deve lavorare
[15:57] <flex> krabaror, in realtà non è il computer per lavorare, ma un pagliativo nel frattempo che arrivi uno più serio.
[15:57] <flex> poi farà altro
[16:00] <Carlin0> !chat
[16:00] <ubot-it> per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:22] <Squall68> sera a tutti
[17:25] <lubu> salve, qualcuno mi sa dire come avviare lubuntu in modalità testuale e poi decidere se far partire la modalità grafica?
[17:26] <lubu> ho provato a fare cosi' https://ubuntrucchi.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/avviare-in-modalita-testuale/ ma parte sempre in mod grafica
[17:29] <cristian_c> lubu: qual è il tuo scopo finale?
[17:30] <cristian_c> perché in modalità testuale?
[17:33] <lubu> voglio smanettare, ho un vecchio pc ho installato lubuntu e va molto bene
[17:33] <lubu> vorrei provarlo in modalità puramente testuale per curiosità
[17:34] <lubu> e magari accetto suggerimenti su come poter usare questo pc nella rete domestica
[17:35] <lubu> ho pensato ad un proxy cache server
[17:35] <lubu> e vorrei utilizzare il server in modalità puramente testuale
[17:40] <lubu> o magari sviluppare alcune applicazioni in java client/server e testarle usando come server questo pc
[17:42] <cristian_c> lubu: se la finestra di terminale non ti basta
[17:42] <cristian_c> lubu: puoi sempre premere ctrl+alt+f1
[17:42] <cristian_c> ma ancora non ho capito il senso della richiesta
[17:42] <cristian_c> nulla che non si possa fare da una normalissima finestra di terminale
[17:43] <cristian_c> e se si tratta di un server, l'interazione si fa da client
[17:45] <lubu> cristian la richiesta è : come faccio ad avviare lubuntu senza caricare il layer grafico ?
[17:46] <lubu> si lo so che l'interazione si fa da client...e prorio per questo sul server non mi servirà la sessione grafica
[17:47] <cristian_c> lubu: perché non hai installato direttamente ubuntu server?
[17:47] <cristian_c> o ubuntu minimale
[17:48] <cristian_c> (cosa che puoi sempre fare)
[17:48] <cristian_c> lubu: oppure rimuovi il desktop (se non ti serve)
[17:49] <lubu> anche se rimuovo il desktop la sessione grafica cosuma sempre risorse...
[17:50] <cristian_c> se rimuovi il desktop grafico, non c'è più un desktop a consumare risorse
[17:51] <lubu> ma il processo/processi dell'interfaccia grafica non sono sempre in esecuzione anche senza desktop ?
[17:51] <cristian_c> ?
[17:51] <cristian_c> ma se li disinstalli...
[17:52] <lubu> scusami cristian, ma non ti seguo :( ...non sono un esperto quindi ....disinstallare un desktop? in cesenso?
[17:52] <cristian_c> !info lubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <ubot-it> lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.62 (wily), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB
[17:52] <lubu> comunque io vorrei averlo il secktop ed avere una interfaccia puramente a caratteri
[17:53] <cristian_c> lubu: ripeto, perché non hai semplicemente installato ubuntu server?
[17:53] <cristian_c> se era quello il tuo scopo
[17:54] <lubu> perchè il mio scopo era prima provare e vedere come girava un s.o desktop su tale macchina, e poi usarlo solo in modalità testuale
[17:54] <lubu> sia chiaro , il tutto è a scopo didattico...
[17:55] <lubu> comunque se non sai come posso avviare lubuntu in modalità puramnete testuale non fa nulla :)
[17:56] <cristian_c> lubu: veramente ho risposto alla tua domanda
[17:56] <cristian_c> 'installa ubuntu server'
[17:57] <cristian_c> lubu: che non capisco cosa ti fa schifo di ubuntu server
[17:58] <lubu> ubuntu server è un s.o. ?
[17:58] <cristian_c> !server
[17:58] <ubot-it> server is http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Server
[17:59] <cristian_c> uhm
[17:59] <cristian_c> lubu: secondo te?
[17:59] <cristian_c> !download
[17:59] <ubot-it> download is http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ o http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ o http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download
[17:59] <cristian_c> lubu: http://www.ubuntu-it.org/download
[18:00] <lubu> cristian_c secondo me si, e infatti io non volgio installare un altro s.o. ma avviare quello che attualmente ho in modalità testuale
[18:00] <cristian_c> lubu: nella sezione 'configura il tuo download' seleziona il terzo menù a tendina e scegli server al posto di desktop
[18:01] <cristian_c> lubu: togli il desktop a lubuntu e ottieni ubuntu server
[18:01] <cristian_c> o meglio, una minimale, ubuntu server ha diversa roba in più
[18:02] <lubu> ma io ho già installato lubuntu , non voglio nuovamente installare una verisione minimale
[18:02] <cristian_c> lubu: se ti va bene lubuntu, usa lubuntu , e vivi felice
[18:03] <cristian_c> se ti serve ubuntu server, installa anche ubuntu server
[18:03] <cristian_c> se non ti serve lubuntu, lo rimpiazzi con ubuntu server
[18:03] <cristian_c> ecc..
[18:03] <lubu> hahaha, calmi oh io ho chiesto solo se sapete come avvisare lubuntu in modalità grafica...non un s.o. che di default non ha modalità grafica
[18:03] <lubu> *avviare
[18:03] <lubu> *senza grafica
[18:04] <cristian_c> lubu: poi perché hai scritto 'non voglio installare nuovamente'? L'avevi già fatto?
[18:04] <cristian_c> lubu: lubuntu è un os desktop
[18:05] <cristian_c> lubu: il resto, con tutto il rispetto, sono complicazioni
[18:05] <lubu> no, pensavo a una cosa e ho scritto un'altra, intendevo non voglio installare nuovamente un s.o.
[18:05] <cristian_c> che ti stai facendo, a meno che non spieghi esattamente quali sono le tue reali esigenze di utilizzo
[18:06] <cristian_c> e se permetti, non sei stato molto chiaro
[18:06] <cristian_c> lubu: perché non hai provato semplicemente lubuntu in live
[18:06] <lubu> ok cristian ma per un esercizio didattico,posso sapere come avviare un s.o. desktop in modalità testuale ?
[18:06] <cristian_c> invece di installarlo, se volevi solo 'provarlo'
[18:06] <cristian_c> lubu: esercizio didattico?
[18:07] <cristian_c> !chat | lubu
[18:07] <ubot-it> lubu: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[18:08] <lubu> si ho fatto l'esame di s.o. e abbiamo trattato linux, adesso vorrei smanettare giusto per ampliare le mie conoscenze
[18:09] <lubu> e quindi richiedo: sapete se è possibili avviare lubuntu in modalità puramente testuale ? si può ?
[18:11] <cristian_c> lubu: se non si tratta di supporto, puoi dirigerti nel canale più appriopriato
[18:11] <cristian_c> per scopi 'didattici'
[18:12] <lubu> e quale sarebbe?...sono nuovo, penso lo si sia notato
[18:12] <cristian_c> !chat | lubu
[18:12] <ubot-it> lubu: per qualsiasi argomento non inerente strettamente il supporto a ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-it-chat
[18:12] <cristian_c> e due
[18:13] <lubu> cosa vuol dire #ubuntu-it-chat ?
[18:14] <cristian_c> lubu: è il nome si un canale irc
[18:14] <cristian_c> non so se conosci irc
[18:14] <lubu> no conosco ICR
[18:14] <lubu> IRC
[18:14] <cristian_c> lubu: google is your friend
[18:15] <lubu> ...cristian mi hai chiesto se conoscevo IRC ...e ti ho risposto, lo so che google is my friend
[18:15] <cristian_c> !irc ! lubu
[18:15] <ubot-it> Voce non trovata: 'irc ! lubu'
[18:16] <cristian_c> !irc | lubu
[18:16] <ubot-it> lubu: leggi le Linee Guida del canale su http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoIrc/LineeGuida
[18:16] <lubu> grazie buona serata :)
[18:16] <cristian_c> di niene
[20:46] <giuseppe1> come faccio a vedere la lettera della mia unità usb?
[20:46] <Carlin0> sudo fdisk -l
[20:48] <giuseppe1> Disco /dev/sdb: 4026 MB, 4026531840 byte
[20:48] <giuseppe1> 1 testine, 62 settori/tracce, 126843 cilindri, totale 7864320 settori
[20:48] <giuseppe1> Unità = settori di 1 * 512 = 512 byte
[20:48] <giuseppe1> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[20:48] <giuseppe1> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[20:48] <giuseppe1> Identificativo disco: 0xc3072e18
[20:50] <giuseppe14> carlin0
[20:50] <giuseppe14> sono giuseppe1
[20:51] <giuseppe14> mi si era bloccato tutto
[20:51] <Carlin0> cosa devi fare giuseppe14 ?
[20:51] <giuseppe14> comunque la lettera è b giusto?
[20:51] <giuseppe14> Disco /dev/sdb: 4026 MB, 4026531840 byte
[20:51] <giuseppe14> 1 testine, 62 settori/tracce, 126843 cilindri, totale 7864320 settori
[20:51] <giuseppe14> Unità = settori di 1 * 512 = 512 byte
[20:51] <giuseppe14> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[20:51] <giuseppe14> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[21:00] <giuseppe4> carlino
[21:00] <giuseppe4> sudo fdisl -l
[21:00] <giuseppe4> carlino
[21:00] <giuseppe4> sudo dd if=/home/giuseppe/Scrivania of=/dev/sdb
[21:00] <giuseppe4> non è questo il comando per spostare un file iso dalla scrivania alla chiavetta?
[21:05] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, no
[21:06] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, sudo apt install pastebinit
[21:06] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, ls Scrivania | pastebinit
[21:07] <giuseppe4> ok
[21:07] <giuseppe4> grazie
[21:07] <Carlin0> dammi il link che esce dal 2° comando
[21:07] <giuseppe4> ok
[21:08] <giuseppe4> ma al primo mi dice comando non trovato!
[21:09] <Carlin0> fai copia incolla giuseppe4
[21:09] <giuseppe4> l'ho fatto
[21:10] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, che ubuntu stai usando ?
[21:10] <giuseppe4> 12.04
[21:10] <giuseppe4> devo istallare il 15.10
[21:10] <Carlin0> ah ecco .... allora sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:10] <giuseppe4> ecco perchè devo mettere un file iso nella chiavetta
[21:11] <giuseppe4> mi dice che è già alla versione più recente
[21:11] <giuseppe4> vado avanti?
[21:11] <Carlin0> ok dai l'altro...
[21:11] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, ls Scrivania | pastebinit
[21:12] <giuseppe4> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13290997/
[21:14] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, sudo dd if=Scrivania/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb
[21:17] <giuseppe4> carlino sei un grande
[21:17] <giuseppe4> grazie mille
[21:20] <lucius> ho eseguito gli aggiornamenti dopo molto tempo che non usavo il pc , sono durati alcune ore, ho eseguito tutti i passaggi e alla fine è stato richiesto di riavviare ma ubuntu non è partito . lo schermo rimane nero con messaggi in bianco e non so che imput dare
[21:26] <Carlin0> lucius, che ubuntu ?
[21:30] <lucius> beh ho effettuato l'aggiornamento e mi è stato richiesto se volevo l'ultima versione disponibile, così ho fatto ma sinceramente non ricordo i particolari..
[21:31] <gigirock> lucius, e adesso a che punto 6 ?
[21:31] <Carlin0> lucius, ma che ubuntu è?
[21:33] <lucius> sono a un punto morto nel senso che l'operazione è riuscita ma il paziente non da segni di vita
[21:33] <gigirock> lol, ER
[21:33] <gigirock> lucius, son arrivato adesso cosa hai aggiornato ?
[21:38] <giuseppe4> Carlino
[21:38] <giuseppe4> Ho avuto un problema con il boot loader grub
[21:38] <giuseppe4> Nell'istallazione di ubuntu
[21:39] <giuseppe4> Come lo risolvo
[21:39] <gigirock> giuseppe4, se ci dici quale tipo di problema.....
[21:39] <giuseppe4> Stavo istallando ubuntu 15.10
[21:40] <giuseppe4> Durante l'istallazione mi ha dato un problema al boot loader grub
[21:41] <gigirock> ma l'installazione e' completata ?
[21:41] <giuseppe4> No
[21:41] <giuseppe4> Sono entrato nella modalità prova
[21:42] <gigirock> ah ok , bravo e dalla modalita' prova ci stai parlando ?
[21:43] <pipposandri> scusate ma come si esce dalla finestra creata con ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[21:45] <giuseppe4> No dal cell
[21:45] <gigirock> pipposandri, scrivi exit
[21:45] <gigirock> giuseppe4, dalla live non ti colleghi a internet ?
[21:45] <giuseppe4> Si
[21:46] <giuseppe4> Vengo nella chat dal pc
[21:46] <gigirock> giuseppe4, ok allora dalla live apri un terminale
[21:47] <giuseppe7> ok sono giuseppe 4
[21:47] <gigirock> k
[21:47] <giuseppe7> sono da pc ora
[21:47] <gigirock> sei su ubuntul live giuseppe7 ?
[21:48] <giuseppe7> cio[_
[21:48] <giuseppe7> cioe
[21:48] <giuseppe7> io sono nella versione di prova
[21:48] <giuseppe7> quella in cui c e l opsione di istallare ubuntu
[21:48] <gigirock> giuseppe7, ok si chiama "live"
[21:48] <giuseppe7> ok
[21:49] <gigirock> giuseppe7, apri un terminale
[21:49] <giuseppe7> fatto
[21:49] <Carlin0> pipposandri, ctrl + alt + f7
[21:49] <gigirock> scrivi df -h
[21:49] <gigirock> scrivi df -h giuseppe7
[21:49] <giuseppe7> ok
[21:49] <giuseppe7> ora_
[21:50] <gigirock> che dischi vedi ?
[21:51] <giuseppe7> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[21:51] <giuseppe7> udev 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /dev
[21:51] <giuseppe7> tmpfs 792M 9.6M 782M 2% /run
[21:51] <giuseppe7> tmpfs 3.9G 84K 3.9G 1% /dev/shm
[21:51] <giuseppe7> tmpfs 5.0M 8.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
[21:51] <giuseppe7> tmpfs 3.9G 0 3.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[21:51] <giuseppe4> Ma che?
[21:51] <gigirock> giuseppe4, non incollare che il server ti butta fuori
[21:51] <giuseppe4> Perché mi ha bannato?
[21:51] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, devi usare il paste
[21:52] <giuseppe4> Ok non lo sapevo
[21:52] <Carlin0> o il bot s'arabbia
[21:52] <gigirock> giuseppe4, dal terminale prova sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:52] <giuseppe4> Fatto
[21:52] <giuseppe4> Ora
[21:54] <gigirock> giuseppe4, dal terminale df -h | pastebinit
[21:55] <gigirock> giuseppe2, ti ritorna un indirizzo internet che devi copiare incollare qui
[21:55] <giuseppe2> quella tra la h e past.... cos[
[21:55] <pipposandri> scusate mi sapete dire perche quando lancio una live vedo l'interfaccia grafica vuota solo il pointer
[21:55] <giuseppe2> cose
[21:55] <Carlin0> cosa sarebbe il pointer pipposandri
[21:55] <pipposandri> sarebbe la freccia del mouse
[21:56] <gigirock> giuseppe2, e' la barra verticale shift il tasto a sx in alto
[21:56] <gigirock> giuseppe2, ma copia incolla il comando che ti do io
[21:56] <Carlin0> pipposandri, controlla il md5sum della iso
[21:56] <pipposandri> non si vede nulla
[21:56] <giuseppe4> Si in live sono tutti diversi
[21:56] <Carlin0> !md5
[21:56] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[21:56] <giuseppe4> La devo cercare :-(
[21:56] <giuseppe4> 1 min
[21:57] <gigirock> giuseppe2, copia e incolla il mio comando
[21:57] <giuseppe4> Me lo rimandi che sono entrato con il pc dopo che lo mettevi
[21:57] <gigirock> giuseppe4, dal terminale df -h | pastebinit
[21:57] <pipposandri> avevo provato sabayon 15 e ubunt 12 sempre schermo colorato ma tutto vuoto
[21:57] <giuseppe2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13291618/
[21:58] <Carlin0> pipposandri, controlla il md5sum della iso
[21:58] <pipposandri> ok
[21:59] <Carlin0> pipposandri, installa la 14.04 o la 15.10
[21:59] <Carlin0> !md5
[21:59] <ubot-it> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Md5Sum | md5: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/MD5SUMS
[21:59] <pipposandri> su altro pc ho installato debian (12 mi pare) e non riesco ad abassare la risoluzione video
[21:59] <gigirock> giuseppe2, ok ma a che punto dell'installazione ti 6 fermato ?
[22:00] <Carlin0> pipposandri, qui si fa supporto solo a ubuntu
[22:00] <giuseppe2> stava finendo
[22:00] <giuseppe2> quasi alla fine
[22:00] <pipposandri> a ok
[22:00] <giuseppe2> mi era succeso quando avevo istallato ubuntu 12.04 e tramite un comando vevo risolto
[22:00] <giuseppe2> ma non ricordo piu il comando
[22:01] <gigirock> giuseppe4, dal terminale sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[22:01] <giuseppe2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13291679/
[22:03] <gigirock> giuseppe2, ma ci sara' solo ubuntu su quel computer ?
[22:03] <giuseppe2> si
[22:04] <gigirock> giuseppe2, ok allora devi restorare il grub sul disco sda...
[22:05] <Carlin0> gigirock, occhio che ha uefi
[22:05] <gigirock> si giuseppe2 un attimo
[22:12] <giuseppe2> niente?
[22:17] <gigirock> si giuseppe2 un attimo
[22:18] <giuseppe28> gigirock che faccio?
[22:21] <giuseppe4> Gigi
[22:22] <giuseppe4> Non mi abbandonare
[22:23] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, ma hai installato ?
[22:24] <giuseppe4> No
[22:24] <giuseppe4> Non mi ha fatto finire
[22:25] <giuseppe4> Mi ha dato prblema al boot loader grub
[22:25] <Carlin0> e allora fai partire l'installazione
[22:26] <giuseppe4> Ma mi si interrompe sicuro
[22:26] <gigirock> aspetta, giuseppe4
[22:26] <giuseppe4> Ok
[22:26] <Carlin0> ma almeno vediamo l'errore
[22:26] <giuseppe4> Allora non faccio niente
[22:26] <giuseppe4> Ok
[22:26] <gigirock> dal terminale...
[22:26] <Carlin0> poi fate vobis
[22:26] <giuseppe4> Ok...
[22:26] <gigirock> giuseppe4, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[22:27] <giuseppe4> Ok
[22:27] <gigirock> giuseppe4, poi sudo apt-get update
[22:28] <giuseppe4> Ok
[22:28] <giuseppe4> Sta facendo!!!
[22:28] <giuseppe4> Sei un grande
[22:28] <giuseppe4> Ora?
[22:28] <gigirock> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[22:29] <gigirock> dovresti avere una voce tipo "Recommended Repair"
[22:30] <giuseppe4> Si
[22:30] <gigirock> usa quella......
[22:30] <giuseppe4> Perfetto
[22:30] <giuseppe4> Mi sto ricordando
[22:31] <giuseppe4> Ho fatto qiesta cosa la prima volta
[22:31] <giuseppe4> Devo fare forward?
[22:31] <gigirock> aspe
[22:31] <giuseppe4> Ok
[22:32] <gigirock> forward che cosa giuseppe4 ?
[22:32] <giuseppe4> Allra
[22:32] <giuseppe4> Mi dice
[22:33] <giuseppe4> Please open a terminal then type (or copy-paste) the following commands
[22:33] <giuseppe4> Poi c'è una serie di comandi sudo
[22:33] <Carlin0> mettili in paste giuseppe4
[22:33] <Carlin0> che vediamo
[22:33] <Carlin0> !paste
[22:33] <ubot-it> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ servizio che permette di incollare lunghi output senza intasare il canale; incollare il testo, indicare il nick, premere paste e postare in canale l'indirizzo della pagina
[22:34] <giuseppe4> Non ho capito
[22:34] <giuseppe4> Non c'è un link
[22:34] <giuseppe4> È una schermata
[22:35] <Carlin0> ae allora premi stamp e manda la schermata
[22:35] <Carlin0> !image
[22:35] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[22:35] <Carlin0> usa imgur
[22:35] <giuseppe89> quindi premo stap e...
[22:36] <Carlin0> ti salva la schermata ... la carichi su imgur e noi la vediamo
[22:36] <giuseppe89> dove imgur
[22:36] <Carlin0> !image
[22:36] <ubot-it> Carica un'immagine su https://imgur.com/ | http://imageshack.us/ (richiede registrazione) e metti un collegamento ad essa in canale.
[22:36] <gigirock> imgur.com
[22:38] <giuseppe4> @
[22:40] <giuseppe4> Ma non mi f l'immagine
[22:40] <giuseppe4> Non me la crea
[22:41] <giuseppe4> Può essere che anche stamp non è più la
[22:41] <giuseppe4> Perché nel live la tstiera non è quella italiana
[22:43] <Carlin0> giuseppe4, prova loadkeys it
[22:43] <giuseppe4> Cosa?
[22:44] <Carlin0> scrivi nel terminale loadkeys it
[22:44] <giuseppe4> Ma se questa cosa la faccio dal cel
[22:44] <giuseppe4> Con la fotocamera?
[22:45] <Carlin0> anche ...
[22:45] <Carlin0> basta che si legga
[22:46] <giuseppe89> ok
[22:47] <giuseppe89> la carco nel mio profilo_
[22:49] <giuseppe89> l ho caricata
[22:49] <giuseppe89> ora?
[22:49] <Carlin0> passa il link
[22:51] <giuseppe89> 1 min
[22:52] <giuseppe89> https://peppefallica.imgur.com/all/
[22:53] <Carlin0> il link alla foto ...
[22:54] <giuseppe89> e quello cos-[
[22:55] <gigirock> si ma li puoi vedere solo tu giuseppe89
[22:55] <Carlin0> giuseppe89, ... tra un po si va a nanna ...
[22:55] <giuseppe89> ok
[22:55] <giuseppe89> ma la foto non te la fa vedere
[22:56] <giuseppe89> http://imgur.com/cEPLwmC
[22:56] <Carlin0> devi mandare il link alla foto ... non al tuo profilo
[22:56] <giuseppe89> questo?
[22:57] <Carlin0> premi invio
[22:57] <giuseppe89> dove?
[22:57] <giuseppe89> forward?
[22:57] <Carlin0> è evidenziato yes , tu dagli invio
[22:58] <giuseppe89> quella e un imagine
[22:58] <giuseppe89> tipo un anteprima
[22:58] <gigirock> si ma prima bisogna dare i comandi....
[22:58] <giuseppe89> ok
[22:58] <giuseppe89> poi?
[22:59] <gigirock> sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sda2" dpkg -configure -a
[22:59] <gigirock> sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sda2" dpkg --configure -a
[23:00] <giuseppe89> ok ok
[23:00] <giuseppe89> sono i tre comndi
[23:00] <giuseppe89> dopo_
[23:00] <giuseppe89> gia li ho messi
[23:00] <Carlin0> ma scusa ... in basso c'è forward ... premi li
[23:01] <giuseppe89> aspetta carlino ormai vedo quello che mi dice gigi
[23:01] <gigirock> si giuseppe89 se hai gia' dato i tre comandi nel terminale.... premi forwards
[23:01] <gigirock> si giuseppe89 se hai gia' dato i tre comandi nel terminale.... premi forward
[23:04] <giuseppe89> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13292599/
[23:04] <giuseppe89> mi ha dato un problema e mi ha detto di guardare qui
[23:05] <Carlin0> che problema ?
[23:05] <giuseppe89> problema nel ripristino dei grub
[23:07] <Carlin0> prova a riavviare
[23:07] <giuseppe89> ok
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-es
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[04:50] <roger_35> Hola, como saber que Ubuntu tengo instalado??
[08:03] <Patero-ng> hola
[12:03] <mefista> hola
[12:04] <mimecar> hola
[13:40] <mefista> k tal mimecar
[13:40] <mefista> novedades en ubuntu
[13:58] <cousteau> mimecar no está
[19:19] <Knight80> Hola a todos/as
[19:19] <Knight80> Estoy intentando crear un enlace simbólico de una aplicación que hice y la quiero meter en el menú de "Ciencia", pero no sé cómo hacerlo, he visto tutoriales y eso, pero me dice que el enlace está roto
[19:20] <mimecar> ¿has configurado el .desktop?
[19:21] <Knight80> Sí, pero no aparece en el menú de "Ciencia"
[19:21] <Knight80> O sea
[19:21] <Knight80> He entrado en /usr/share/applications
[19:21] <Knight80> Y allí he abierto con nano el .desktop
[19:22] <Knight80> En "Categories" he puesto "Science"
[19:22] <Knight80> Pero nada
[19:23] <mimecar> ¿es ese el nombre correcto?
[19:24] <Knight80> ¿Cuál?
[19:24] <mimecar> el de la categoría
[19:24] <Knight80> Ah, perdón, sí
[19:24] <Knight80> Sí es
[19:24] <Knight80> He cerrado con punto y coma
[19:24] <Knight80> Categories=Science;
[19:28] <mimecar> ese nombre lo has sacado fe algún ejemplo?
[19:29] <Knight80> No, lo he puesto yo como el nombre de categoría en inglés
[19:33] <mimecar> el nombre no es el que tu tienes en el escritorio
[19:33] <mimecar> son nombres concretos independientes del idioma
[19:33] <Knight80> ¿Qué debo poner, pues?
[19:34] <Knight80> ¿Ciencia?
[19:34] <mimecar> es independiente del idioma
[19:34] <mimecar> no tienes ninguna aplicación en esa categoría?
[19:35] <Knight80> Sí, LIbreOffice Math
[19:35] <Knight80> Es verdad
[19:35] <Knight80> :)
[19:36] <Knight80> Gracias :)
[20:21] <Octubre2> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[20:22] <Octubre2> alguien sabe si hay alguna forma de poder cambiar de canción por teclado usando rhythmbox sin tener que abrirlo?
[20:22] <Octubre2> porque veo que puedo usar Cntrl+Derecha para pasar a la siguient canción, pero solo si estoy con la ventana de rhythmbox abierta
[20:22] <Octubre2> y yo quiero hacerlo sin tener que abrirla
[20:22] <mimecar> configura las combinaciones de tecla de Gnome
[20:22] <Octubre2> pero no encuentro la forma, y en amarok si que podía hacerlo esto
[20:23] <Octubre2> ah, es de gnome
[20:23] <Octubre2> ok voy a ver
[20:23] <Octubre2> gracias
[20:23] <mimecar> ¿no estás usando Gnome?
[20:23] <Octubre2> si
[20:23] <Octubre2> unity
[20:23] <Octubre2> concretamente
[20:23] <Octubre2> pero estaba buscando en la app the del reproductor
[20:23] <mimecar> no es exactamente Gnome pero puede valer
[20:23] <Octubre2> no pensaba en k esto era de gnome
[20:23] <Octubre2> voy abuscar
[20:24] <Octubre2> mayus control + 4
[20:24] <Octubre2> mayus es la de la flechita hacia arriba n?
[20:24] <Octubre2> no me va, a lo mejor es porque tengo lo de compiz activado
[20:25] <mimecar> ...
[20:25] <mimecar> ¿has entrado en la configuración de Gnome para el teclado?
[20:25] <Octubre2> siiiii
[20:25] <Octubre2> que dice que para siguiente cancion es mayus + control + 6
[20:25] <Octubre2> aaah vale
[20:25] <Octubre2> si que funciona!!
[20:26] <Octubre2> pero es con los numeros de la derecha
[20:26] <Octubre2> yo estaba haciendo con los numeros de arriba
[20:26] <Octubre2> claro supongo que al estar pulsando mayús en realidad estaba dandole a & en vez de a 6 xD
[20:26] <Octubre2> ok pues vesss no hacia falta que pusieras puntos suspensivos mimecar !! ¬¬
[20:26] <Octubre2> pues nada, ya he hackeado el sistema
[20:27] <Octubre2> bien como mola poder cambiar de cancion asi
[20:27] <Octubre2> ya soy mas hacker
[20:27] <mimecar> aún te queda un poco para hackear GNU/Linux
[20:27] <Octubre2> jaja poco a poco
[20:28] <Octubre2> algun dia sere un super hacker comparado con lo que soy ahora!!!! (no me comparo con los demas porque entonces me desmotivo xD)
[20:30] <mimecar> tienes que estudiar más para poder serlo
[20:32] <Octubre2> y q tengo que estudiar?
[20:32] <mimecar> programación, matemáticas...
[20:32] <Octubre2> buff matematicas
[20:32] <mimecar> electrónica también viene bien
[20:33] <Octubre2> y electronica por?
[20:33] <Octubre2> que tendrá q ver...
[20:33] <mimecar> un ordenador es electrónica
[20:33] <Octubre2> creo que confundes ser hacker con ser lampista ehhh
[20:34] <mimecar> y para acceder a bajo nivel a los dispositivos tienes que saber como funcionan a ese nivel
[20:34] <Octubre2> y para k iba a kerer hacer eso?
[20:34] <mimecar> no sé, pensaba que querías ser un hacker
[20:34] <Octubre2> pues claro k kiero
[20:34] <Octubre2> pero k tndra k ver saber de ordenadores
[20:34] <Octubre2> osea de software
[20:34] <mimecar> un hacker no es entrear a la cuenta de otra persona de Facebook
[20:34] <Octubre2> con saber la ley de newton y de tesla
[20:35] <mimecar> para conocer la electrónica digital tienes que tener base de electrónica analógica
[20:35] <Octubre2> pero si ahora todo es digital
[20:35] <mimecar> y en el ordenador programas circuitos digitales
[20:35] <mimecar> y?
[20:35] <mimecar> digital sobre una base analógica
[20:36] <Octubre2> madre mia pero eso es mucho
[20:36] <Octubre2> no se puede saber d todo en la vida
[20:36] <Octubre2> saber programar ya es mucho
[20:36] <Octubre2> como me voy a poner con electricistas ahora¿?
[20:36] <mimecar> electrónica no es algo de electricistas
[20:37] <Octubre2> bueno
[20:37] <Octubre2> y es mucho esto para aprender?
[20:37] <mimecar> al final estudia lo que quieras pero necesitas base
[20:37] <mimecar> después añade varios lenguajes de programación y leer mucha documentación
[20:38] <Octubre2> yahm
[20:38] <Octubre2> pues nose porque nunca se habla de electronica
[20:38] <Octubre2> cuando se habla de hackers
[20:38] <mimecar> si programas a bajo nivel necesitas esos conocimientos
[20:39] <Octubre2> pero se puede ser un buen hacker
[20:39] <Octubre2> sin saber de electronica no?
[20:39] <Octubre2> es que no tengo ni idea yo
[20:39] <Octubre2> d electronica
[20:39] <Octubre2> nose ni por donde aprender eso
[20:39] <mimecar> ¿qué entiendes por ser un hacker?
[20:40] <Octubre2> pues por ejemplo ...
[20:40] <Octubre2> mm...
[20:40] <Octubre2> es como ser Dios en internet basicamente
[20:40] <Octubre2> algo así
[20:40] <mimecar> eso no existe
[20:40] <Octubre2> es una metafora
[20:40] <Octubre2> lo digo porque puedes hacer muchas cosas
[20:41] <Octubre2> si eres hacker
[20:41] <Octubre2> lo primero es que eres el puto amo eso para empezar
[20:42] <Octubre2> pq puedes hacer lo que quieras con tu PC para empezar
[20:42] <Octubre2> lo dominas completamente
[20:42] <Octubre2> y luego puedes programar cosas
[20:42] <Octubre2> lo que sea
[20:42] <Octubre2> hacer programas o webs
[20:42] <mimecar> revisa la definición de hacker
[20:42] <Octubre2> y luego además
[20:42] <Octubre2> eres el rey de la seguridad de la informatica
[20:42] <Octubre2> en las redes si hay un bug
[20:43] <Octubre2> tu lo ves y lo puedes aprovechar
[20:43] <mimecar> y estudia lenguajes como C / C++, Bash, Python
[20:43] <Octubre2> para explotar el bug a tu favor
[20:43] <Octubre2> se perfectamente lo que es un hacker
[20:43] <Octubre2> python se
[20:43] <Octubre2> if 2>3:
[20:43] <Octubre2> print "hello"
[20:43] <mimecar> también debes conocer en profundidad los protocoloes que usan los servidores
[20:43] <Octubre2> etc
[20:43] <Octubre2> sé bastante más que eso
[20:43] <Octubre2> pero para que veas k si que se
[20:43] <mimecar> y como están programadas las aplicaciones leyendo el código fuente
[20:44] <Octubre2> te refieres a TCP/IP ?
[20:44] <Octubre2> se que es pero es dificil de entender ese protocolo
[20:44] <Octubre2> osea te lo puedes memorizar
[20:44] <Octubre2> hay varias capas blablalba
[20:44] <Octubre2> te lo puedes empollar pero en realidad no se entiende nada
[20:44] <Octubre2> esa es la realiad
[20:44] <Octubre2> realidad
[20:47] <Octubre2> pero bueno de momento me conformo con saber hacer una pagina web bien hecha
[20:47] <Octubre2> y ganar dinero
[20:47] <Octubre2> siendo realistas
[20:47] <Octubre2> pk tp se de que me serviria ser tan hacker
[20:47] <mimecar> para conseguir eso no necesitas ser un hacker
[20:47] <Octubre2> ya pero necsio aprender
[20:47] <Octubre2> mucho
[20:47] <Octubre2> porque no lo digo por decir
[20:47] <Octubre2> me he estado informando hace tiempo
[20:47] <Octubre2> de hacer paginas web
[20:47] <Octubre2> y se necesitan muchos conocimientos
[20:47] <Octubre2> no es moco de pavo
[20:48] <Octubre2> no funciona por arte de magia una web
[20:48] <Octubre2> hay que saber mucho
[20:48] <mimecar> para hacer Webs necesitas PHP, bases de datos, forma de configurar un servidor..
[20:48] <Octubre2> y te has dejado una cosa que es muy importante
[20:48] <Octubre2> DOMINIO WEB
[20:48] <Octubre2> pq sin eso no existes
[20:49] <Octubre2> el dominio web viene a ser el nombre de la web
[20:49] <Octubre2> para que la gente te busque
[20:49] <mimecar> ese es el último paso con una Web
[20:49] <Octubre2> joer pues es lo rpimero que estoy mirando jajaaj
[20:50] <Octubre2> si tengo que saber
[20:50] <Octubre2> HTML y CSS
[20:50] <Octubre2> ya aprendí un poco
[20:50] <mimecar> y bases de datos
[20:50] <Octubre2> lo que pasa es que tengo el gusto estético en el culo
[20:50] <Octubre2> pero bueno x
[20:50] <Octubre2> xd
[20:51] <Octubre2> lo primero es diseñar el proyecto
[20:51] <Octubre2> analisis de mercao
[20:51] <mimecar> poco a poco hay que ir dejando el offtopic
[20:52] <Octubre2> jaja ok
[20:52] <Octubre2> pero tp habla la gente
[20:52] <Octubre2> osea no interrumpimos a nadie k yo sepa
[20:52] <mimecar> !ot Octubre2
[20:52] <mimecar> entra en #ubuntu-es-cafe
[20:52] <Octubre2> wut?
[20:52] <mimecar> aunque no hable la gente
[20:52] <mimecar> un poco de offtopic si no hay movimiento, vale
[20:53] <Octubre2> okey
[20:53] <mimecar> pero teniendo un canal dedicado mejor seguir allí
[20:53] <Octubre2> si mejor dejar eso para soporte
[20:53] <Octubre2> tecnico
[20:53] <Octubre2> como mi primera pregunta
[20:53] <Octubre2> que era una cosa d ubuntu tecnica
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2015-11-15-#juju
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[23:51] <marcoceppi> blahdeblah: restarted the tests
[23:51] <marcoceppi> they are not automatic at this point, but will be soon
[23:52] <blahdeblah> marcoceppi: thanks!
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2015-11-15-#xubuntu
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[01:24] <JohnnyComeL8ly> GUI mounting works now... I don't know what changed. I didn't install any packages that would do that, at least I don't think I did. :-P
[07:22] <xubuntu91i> xubuntu nice, thx
[09:16] <jarnos> Link http://xubuntu.org/news/15-10-release/ does not work at http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[09:19] <jarnos> Apparently the link should be http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-15-10-release/
[12:43] <xubuntu21w> Hi all
[12:44] <xubuntu21w> I'm using the lenovo T440 and have a problem with my sound. is cracks while booting up / stop hibernate. The bug is reported here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2015/10/msg00018.html
[12:44] <xubuntu21w> does anybody know when the bug will be fixed in the xubuntu 15.10 version?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> xubuntu21w, have to ask #debian
[12:47] <xubuntu21w> debian said, the bug is fixed: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2015/10/msg00101.html
[12:48] <xubuntu21w> so, I'm not an expert and don't know how the lifecycle works. Se bugs seems to be the same in the latest xubuntu version. should I open a bug somewhere and if yes, where?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> xubuntu21w, sounds like a low priority bug and 15.10 is not an LTS. I would not be surprised to see this bug remain until 16.04. opening an ubuntu bug for a fixed debian bug is just going to irritate people. wait for the upstream to flow downstream.
[12:51] <xubuntu21w> ok, thank you :)
[13:11] <richtuk> running the latest xubuntu on an intel atom, graphics and sound are crazy choppy, any ideas?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> choppy? how much ram
[13:12] <richtuk> 2gb
[13:15] <richtuk> should be plenty for xubuntu
[13:18] <cfhowlett> agreed.
[18:24] <xubuntu----51w> hello
[18:25] <xubuntu----51w> I am having boot failures with (clean installs of) Ubuntu 15.10 and Xubuntu 15.10. Not sure how to fix or where to file the bug.
[18:28] <xubuntu----51w> same distros boot fine on my other computer, so I think it's hardware-specific. (Inspiron 1012 laptop.)
[20:16] <recon_lap> hi, anyone have any suggestion on how to fix a SD card the keeps coming up read only, (and yes I've checked the lock tab is not selected)
[20:39] <recon_lap> cant even get gparted to reformat the stupid thing
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-uk
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[06:31] <mapps> hi all
[07:26] <knightwise> morning mapps
[07:51] <mapps> hey
[07:51] <mapps> hm the acting in theplayer is kinda ba
[07:51] <mapps> d
[10:13] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:40] <knightwise> Morning Bro
[10:40] <brobostigon> morning knightwise
[17:00] <mapps> hmm]
[17:00] <mapps> these bluetooth earphone suck;/
[17:01] <brobostigon> :(
[17:04] * zmoylan-pi sticks with wired headphones as my phone uses lead as aerial for fm radio...
[17:07] <mapps> they just dont work well even when notmoving
[17:17] <zmoylan-pi> i did get a sony bt hadphones set but losing the radio was too much for convenience of having no wire
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"knightwise",
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-de
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[00:00] <Erzi> Finde den leider nicht in Dolphin unter Netzwerk.
[00:00] <Erzi> Kann das sein?
[00:00] <Erzi> Also das er dort ned sichtbar wird
[00:00] <Erzi> mein NAS ist dort zu finden
[00:01] <Erzi> Aber da laeuft auch ein FTP drauf
[00:02] <Erzi> mrkramps: hab schon bissel gegoogelt aber so nen richtig gescheiten Client scheints wohl ned zu geben, oder sehe ich das richtig?
[00:02] <mrkramps> nein, das sieht du schon ganz richtig
[00:02] <mrkramps> linux ist eher der host
[00:02] <Erzi> Mist
[00:02] <Erzi> Ich will gar nix wirklich streamen
[00:02] <Erzi> Hab nen TV mit ner internen HDD
[00:03] <mrkramps> aber vlc sollte das können, nur eine weile brauchen um die informationen der bibliothek vom server zu laden
[00:03] <Erzi> Und die Aufnahmen wuerde ich gern auf den Rechner ziehen
[00:03] <Erzi> Um sie hier dann weiter zu verarbeiten
[00:03] <mrkramps> Erzi, und dein TV mit interner festplatte kann kein anderes netzwerkprotokoll?
[00:03] <Erzi> Mit HDD oder Stick ist das bissel .......
[00:03] <Erzi> Weiss ned
[00:04] <Erzi> ich kann auf den TV streamen, bzw. der TV kann sich vom Netzwerk aus versorgen
[00:04] <Erzi> Aber umgedreht weiss ich nix.
[00:04] <Erzi> Kann halt den TV selbst als Server einstellen
[00:04] <Erzi> Mediaserver am TV aktivieren
[00:04] <Erzi> Nun muss ich es halt nur noch schaffen drauf zuzugreifen um es mir rueber zu ziehen
[00:04] <mrkramps> Erzi, welches modell?
[00:05] <Erzi> Metz topas
[00:06] <mrkramps> lass mich raten, das so ein gerät das quasi niemand besitzt?
[00:06] <Erzi> Wenn du mich als niemand bezeichnen willst.
[00:07] <mrkramps> Erzi, hat der vielleicht eine weboverfläche?
[00:07] <Erzi> Finde ich ned, habs schon im Server probiert
[00:07] <mrkramps> und ich beziehe das mit "niemand" eher auf die schlechte ausbeute an suchergebnissen
[00:08] <mrkramps> Erzi, haste die IP vom fernseher mal in einem webbrowser eingegeben?
[00:08] <Erzi> ja
[00:08] <Erzi> server meinte ich browser
[00:08] <Erzi> sorry
[00:08] <mrkramps> ok
[00:09] <Erzi> nix verfuegbar
[00:09] <mrkramps> 42, 47 oder 55"?
[00:09] <Erzi> Port kenne ich auch keinen den ich da waehlen sollte
[00:09] <Erzi> Das ist doch unerheblich, duerften alle gleich sein von der Software her
[00:09] <Erzi> Duerfte aber auch ohne Portangabe was gehen, oder?
[00:10] <mrkramps> port 80 ist da so üblich und wird vom browser auch einfach genommen
[00:10] <Erzi> Na ja, nix passiert. Nur Fehlermeldung
[00:11] <Erzi> Ich probier mal kurz mit dem Lappi (Win) ob ich da was finde, vielleicht Netzwerklaufwerk oder was auch immer
[00:11] <mrkramps> im handbuch steht auch nichts
[00:12] <mrkramps> Erzi, schau dir mit `nmap` mal an, welche ports an dem gerät offen sind
[00:12] <Erzi> gibts gar ned
[00:13] <Erzi> aufm Lappi isser gleich da
[00:13] <Erzi> im Dateibrowser
[00:13] <Erzi> Voll geil da
[00:13] <mrkramps> oO
[00:13] <Erzi> Wuerde den jetzt gern hier in meinem Dolphin auch haben
[00:14] <Erzi> Hast du ne Idee wie ich danach suchen kann hier
[00:14] <mrkramps> du könntest mir erstmal sagen, was auf deinem laptop läuft
[00:18] <Erzi> win 8.1
[00:18] <Erzi> Ich will aber von hier aus drauf zugreifen
[00:18] <Erzi> mein PC ubuntu
[00:21] <mrkramps> soweit ich das sehe, ist die einzige möglichkeit FUSE zu aktivieren und das mit djmount einzuhängen
[00:22] <Erzi> alles doof, vom Lappi hab ich keinen Zugriff aufs NAS
[00:22] <Erzi> Dachte das ich da mal ein Netzlaufwerk angezeigt bekommen hatte
[00:22] <Erzi> So haette ich das so rueber schieben koennen
[00:26] <Erzi> wenn ich das zeugs installier kann nix passieren, oder?
[00:27] <Erzi> also libfuse-dev
[00:28] <mrkramps> wo will der das denn installieren?
[00:28] <mrkramps> bzw. warum?
[00:29] <Erzi> http://netbunker.de/2011/05/27/linux-automatisches-einhangen-von-upnp-servern-mit-djmount/
[00:30] <mrkramps> also bei mir hat das paket djmount eigentlich alle abhängigkeiten
[00:30] <Erzi> aha
[00:30] <Erzi> ok
[00:30] <Erzi> Ich kenn mich damit ned aus
[00:30] <mrkramps> das paket sollte nicht nötig sein
[00:31] <Erzi> ich soll nen einhaengepunkt in /media machen
[00:31] <Erzi> macht man den da direkt oder eher unter /media/erzi/
[00:31] <Erzi> Hast du vielleicht eine bessere Seite?
[00:31] <mrkramps> https://askubuntu.com/questions/88754/upnp-dlna-client-player-recommendations#109083
[00:32] <mrkramps> und man kann es direkt in /media machen
[00:35] <Erzi> danke, genial
[00:35] <Erzi> es geht
[00:35] <Erzi> DAAAAAAAAAANKE
[00:35] <Erzi> ;)
[00:35] <mrkramps> dafür nich
[00:36] <Erzi> hmm :(
[00:36] <Erzi> Der zeigt jetzt wieder komisches Zeug an
[00:36] <Erzi> Ordner lassen sich ned oeffnen
[00:36] <Erzi> und alles m3u dateien
[00:37] <Erzi> schade
[00:38] <Erzi> Schade, war schon so zuversichtlich als ich den Metz-TV Server da gefunden habe.
[00:39] <Erzi> auf meinen Plex komm ich gar nicht drauf
[00:40] <Erzi> Auf dem NAS laeuft Plex als DLNA Server.
[00:40] <Erzi> Fuse scheint wohl auch ned alles zu wollen
[00:40] <Erzi> also entweder Fuse oder djmount kommt ned klar mit den Servern.
[00:41] <mrkramps> das kann passieren, kompatibilität ist eben so eine sache
[00:41] <mrkramps> und der grund, warum ich für sowas eine linux-basierende settop box verwende, statt der müllsoftware im fernseher
[00:47] <Erzi> Ich bin froh das ich alles im TV drin habe
[00:47] <Erzi> Muss ich eben weiter mit ner externen HDD arbeiten
[00:48] <Erzi> Uebers Netzwerk waere es wahrscheinlich schneller gegangen
[00:48] <mrkramps> wenn diese technik man immer so funktionieren würde, wie sie sollte … tut mir leid, dir nicht weiterhelfen zu können
[00:50] <Erzi> Braucht dir ned leid tun
[00:50] <Erzi> Kannst ja auch ix dafuer
[00:50] <Erzi> Bin mit dem TV voll zufrieden
[00:50] <Erzi> Aufnahmen und Planung dafuer gehen super, und das Bild ist erste Sahne.
[00:51] <mrkramps> von der bildqualität wäre ich sicherlich auch begeistert
[00:53] <Erzi> Ja ist echt der Hammer, sogar besser als bei UHD TVs einiger Mitbewerber
[00:53] <Erzi> Bei HD Source
[00:53] <Erzi> UHD kann ich ja schlecht vergleichen
[00:53] <Erzi> Habs mit nem Technisat UHD verglichen, und da konnte der Technisat einpacken.
[10:03] <Erold> Guten morgen.
[10:04] <Erold> Kann mir jemand in Sachen php helfen :/ bekomme eine fertige index.php zum laufen :/
[10:04] <Erold> *nicht zum laufen
[10:05] <Wishmaster2> Erold: Inwiefern "nicht zum Laufen"?
[10:05] <bekks> Da müssen jetzt erstmal wesentlich mehr Informationen her.
[10:05] <bekks> Welches Ubuntu, welcher Webserver, welche PHP Version, etc.
[10:05] <bekks> Was steht in den Webserverlogs, was ist die Fehlermeldung.
[10:06] <Erold> Also es geht um ein payment System. Auf der Seite gibt's ein komplettes fertiges Modul.
[10:06] <bekks> Worum es da geht ist egal. Es geht um die fehlenden Informationen ;)
[10:06] <Erold> Ok sry kenne mich noch nicht so gut aus :/
[10:07] <Erold> Was braucht ihr den genau?
[10:07] <bekks> Habe ich geschrieben.
[10:08] <Wishmaster2> Fang erstmal damit an wie genau sich der Fehler äußert
[10:08] <Erold> Also Debian whezzy da ich den Webserver auf ein raspberry laufen lasse
[10:08] <bekks> Gut, dann vrag bitte den Debian Support. Danke.
[10:08] <Erold> Php 5 / Apache2
[10:08] <bekks> Hier ist Ubuntu Support.
[10:08] <bekks> *frag
[10:09] <Erold> Ist ok.
[13:11] <ShiroNeko> hallo, hab ne kurze frag zu bind9/isc-dhcp-server: habe beides aufgesetzt und funktioniert auch wunderbar. alles was nicht geht, die Windows-Rechner finden sich nicht mehr. was könnte ich vergessen haben?
[13:12] <ShiroNeko> andere geräte wie drucker, TV, AV-Receiver im LAN werden erkannt, nur andere computer nicht
[13:14] <bekks> Erläutere "die Windows Rechner finden sich nicht mehr"?
[13:15] <ShiroNeko> bekks: zugiff über \\hostname oder \\10.1.1.1 auf die einzelnen computer klappt, sie tauchen nur nicht in der netzwerkumgebung auf
[13:15] <ShiroNeko> mach mal eben ein screen ... mom
[13:15] <bekks> Und das ist dann wie genau ein Ubuntuproblem? :)
[13:16] <ShiroNeko> vermute das problem im zusammenhang mit dem ubuntu was dns/dhcp macht. mit der fritzbox vorher war das kein problem
[13:16] <bekks> Wenn \\hostname geht, geht DNS.
[13:17] <bekks> Das, was du in der Netzwerkumgebung siehst, hat mit DNS nicht viel zu tun. Und vor allem nichts mit Ubuntu.
[13:18] <ShiroNeko> was dhcp mir nicht mitgibt ist ein wins-server. vor resetup von dhcp/dns war das die fritzbox
[13:18] <ShiroNeko> denke mal, ein wins-server sollte mit ubuntu auch kein problem darstellen
[13:19] <Lembert> Hallo, ich habe einen Ubuntu Server beim einem Hoster stehen und einen Sat.Receiver (vu+) mit einem Linux Image drauf welcher als eine Art Homeserver benutzt wird. Aktuell kann man auf den Server über ssh und ftpes mit explizitem ssl drauf zugreifen. Ist es irgendwie möglich für einen regelmäßigen Dateiaustausch einen gemeinsamen Nenner zu finden um einen Teil des Dateisystems des Servers im Receiver Linux einzubinden?
[13:20] <bekks> Lembert: sshfs
[13:27] <Lembert> bekks, danke, ich guck mal ob ichs für die mips Architektur auftreibe
[13:49] <Lembert> sieht eher schlecht aus, anscheinend hat dafür noch keiner ein .ipk paket gemacht
[13:49] <smeexs> is das noch aktuell ? http://winfuture.de/news,57371.html
[13:50] <bekks> smeexs: Unterstreich mal das Wort "Ubuntu" darin.
[13:51] <smeexs> versteh nicht was du mir damit sagen willst
[13:52] <bekks> Was möchtest du UNS denn eigentlich fragen?
[13:52] <bekks> Ob man das fragliche Paket deinstallieren kann? Ja, steht in deinem Artikel. Ob man Moronix-Links glauben kann? NEin, kann man nicht.
[13:54] <smeexs> eigentlich nur ob das paket noch im einsatz ist bzw in den lts versionen enthalten und default aktiv
[13:54] <bekks> Das kann packages.ubuntu.com Dir verraten.
[13:54] <smeexs> das meiste was ich gefunden habe war aus dem jahre schnee
[13:54] <schlaepfer> a
[13:55] <bekks> smeexs: Das Paket existiert in keiner aktuellen Ubuntuversion, soviel zum Wahrheitsgehalt des Artikels.
[13:55] <smeexs> danke
[13:58] <smeexs> nur warum sagst mir dann ich kanns deinstallieren wenn es doch gar nicht in ubuntu enthalten ist -.-
[13:58] <smeexs> oder hat das packages einfach einen anderen namen
[13:58] <bekks> Hast du den Artikel überhalt mal selbst gelesen?
[13:59] <smeexs> ich hab halt nur eine angeregte diskussion in einem forum ob ubuntu nach hause telephoniert , deswegen hab ich mich hier (nach einer google suche) erkundigt um besser argumentieren zu können
[13:59] <smeexs> klar
[14:00] <bekks> Ubuntu telefoniert nicht nach Hause.
[14:00] <stevieh> ruft nur manchmal Amazon an, aber das kann man auch abstellen
[14:01] <bekks> Auch wenn Herr Stallman das anders sieht :P
[14:04] <sash_> So, und wieder weg aus diesem Regenloch.
[14:04] <sash_> Ab ins nächste.
[14:04] <sash_> Uups, falscher Channel
[14:24] <Lembert> Vor einiger Zeit konnte man bei Ubuntu im Terminal noch Tabs öffnen, bei meiner aktuellen Version ist das nicht möglich, da gibt es nur "Datei > Neues Terminal". Kann ich das irgendwie wieder ermöglichen?
[14:25] <Lembert> Ich hab Ubuntu 15.04 mit Gnome
[14:34] <rentier_> Huhu! Hat jemand eine Idee, wieso Photoshop CS2 neuerding beim Starten hängt? Irgend eine Wine-Aktualisierung oder so was?
[14:35] <mrkramps> rentier_, da fragst du besser mal direkt beim wine-projekt nach
[14:36] <mrkramps> bzw. schaust mal bei denen in der datenbank
[14:38] <krytarik> Lembert: Nicht im Menü, aber hier: http://askubuntu.com/questions/613465/upgrade-to-15-04-what-happened-to-my-gnome-terminal-tabs/613490#613490
[14:50] <Lembert> danke, funktioniert
[16:01] <kultviech> wie gehe ich vor wenn ich mit btrfs einen snapshot von / auf den alten stand setzen möchte?
[17:12] <Guest98714> Hi zusammen!
[17:13] <Guest98714> Kann mir jemand helfen? Anscheinend wird seit dem release upgrade bei mir beim Boot immer die fstab gelöscht.
[17:13] <Guest98714> Ich hab sie mit der live cd wieder neu erstellt aber nach dem neustart ist sie wieder leer :(
[17:14] <mrkramps> Guest98714, mit der livecd auch die richtige fstab neu erstellt?
[17:14] <mrkramps> also nicht die des live-systems?
[17:15] <Guest98714> Ich hab die hergetellte auch in eine fstab.backup kopiert zur sicherheit die ist noch da
[17:15] <Guest98714> Ich muss mal meinen nick ändern mom
[17:16] <Rene73> So ;)
[17:19] <mrkramps> Rene73, ist die fstab beim neustart wirklich komplett leer?
[17:20] <Rene73> ja... 0 byte und timestamp vom boot... also aktuell 18:00 Uhr
[17:21] <Rene73> Die Backup hat einen Timestamp von 17:54 Uhr
[17:22] <koegs> irgendwelche komischen ppas oder Skripte über die man was wissen sollte?
[17:23] <Rene73> nö, ich hab eigentlich erst vor kurzem 15.04 neu installiert und jetzt ein release upgrade gemacht.
[17:24] <Rene73> einzig die aufteilung in der fstab ist vielleicht ein bisschen speziell... / auf ssd und /home, /var, /tmp auf jeweils einer eigenen partition
[17:24] <mrkramps> Rene73, ich vermute mal, das system startet ohne fstab auch nicht durch?
[17:24] <Rene73> ne :) so gar nicht
[17:25] <mrkramps> krass, habe ich mal so garkeine idee zu
[17:25] <Rene73> ich versuch grad mal die bootlogs zu durchstöbern aber bisher nix gefunden
[17:26] <mrkramps> da kann ja auch nichts drinstehen, wenn nichts eingebunden wird
[17:27] <mrkramps> Rene73, läuft da was mit verschlüsselten partitionen? lvm?
[17:27] <Rene73> negativ
[17:27] <mrkramps> und die partitionierung lief natürlich unter 15.04 problemlos?
[17:28] <Rene73> ja :) Ich hab ja auch die ganze zeit ohne probleme gearbeitet
[17:29] <Rene73> Dass einzige was war.. das release-upgrade hat sich aufgehängt beim konfigurieren der paketet.
[17:29] <mrkramps> ach
[17:29] <mrkramps> und das jetzt keine wichtige information?
[17:29] <jokrebel> ein update/dist-upgrade läuft aber fehlerfrei durch?
[17:29] <Rene73> Ich hab dann handisch dpkg ausgeführt und noch mal apt-get update, upgrade und dist...
[17:30] <Rene73> alles noch vor dem reboot
[17:30] <jokrebel> dpkg was?
[17:30] <jokrebel> und warum?
[17:30] <jokrebel> was sagt "apt-get -f install"?
[17:30] <mrkramps> `dpkg --configure -a` sollte man in so einem fall schon machen, jokrebel
[17:31] <Rene73> dass kann ich jetzt aktuell nicht sagen da die dateisysteme nicht eingehängt werden... ih denke mal vor allem das fehlende var ist ein problem
[17:31] <jokrebel> mrkramps: Und hat er dies? Oder was ganz Andreas? ;-)
[17:32] <Rene73> ich überlege grad ich konnte doch hier im live system die fstab neu schreiben und dann mit chroot weiter machen oder?
[17:32] <Rene73> ja, hat er
[17:32] * jokrebel würde eher _erst_ chrooten
[17:33] * mrkramps würde sich das elend sparen und neu installieren :X
[17:34] <Rene73> och nich schon wieder :(
[17:39] <Rene73> interessant... in der syslog steht dass es die dateisysteme gemountet haben will ???
[17:39] <Rene73> Nov 15 18:00:39 rene-desktop systemd[1]: Mounting /home...
[17:39] <Rene73> Nov 15 18:00:39 rene-desktop systemd[1]: Mounted /var.
[17:39] <Rene73> usw
[17:42] <mrkramps> Rene73, systemd braucht die fstab nicht zwangsläufig und kann auf mount units zurückgreifen
[17:42] <Rene73> auf was ?
[17:42] <mrkramps> aber was genau da bei dir schief gelaufen ist, weiß ich nicht
[17:44] <Rene73> hmm... noch mal neu starten nur zur sicherheit :)
[17:46] <passt_> nach einem update auf die aktuelle version von virtualbox 5.0.10 lassen sich die VMs nicht mehr starten. wenn ich mir /var/log/vbox-install.log anschaue, scheint die ursache zu sein, dass die passenden linux-headers- zu fehlen.
[17:47] <passt_> so wie es aussieht gibt es derzeit keine linux-headers-3.19.0-30-generic
[17:48] <passt_> wie kriege ich virtualbox nun wieder lauffähig installiert?
[17:49] <passt_> btw ubuntu 15.10
[17:49] <mrkramps> tjo, seit 15.04 gibt es keine headers mehr … was auch immer mir ubuntu damit sagen will oO
[17:49] <Lothenon> gnah, und warum meckert jetzt vbox herum, dass es keinen 3d-support leisten kann, wenn doch nvidia installiert ist?
[17:51] <mrkramps> ah, ubuntu möchte mir damit sagen, dass meine suchanfragen zu ungenau sind
[17:52] <mrkramps> passt_, vielleicht solltest du die headers mal installieren?
[17:53] <passt_> mrkramps: die gibt es nicht
[17:54] <mrkramps> passt_, in 15.10 nicht für kernel 3.19, weil dort 4.2 aktuell ist
[17:55] <mrkramps> möglicherweise fehlt dir einfach das notwendige kernel-modul
[17:55] * Lothenon sieht in den repos für 14.04 die header für willy
[17:56] <mrkramps> passt_:$ sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms
[17:56] <mrkramps> passt_:$ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[17:57] <Longbottom> mrkramps: Wie kommst du darauf? Ich hab hier 15.10, und das Paket linux-headers-4.2.0-16-generic ist auch installiert.
[17:57] <Longbottom> Ups, war wohl ein wenig spät.
[17:57] <mrkramps> Longbottom, wie gesagt, meine suchanfrage für das paket war zu ungenau ;)
[17:59] <passt_> /etc/init.d/vboxdrv gibt es bei mir nicht
[18:00] <passt_> build-essentials war bereits installiert
[18:01] <passt_> außerdem irritiert mich, dass 'uname -r' 3.19.0-30-generic und nicht 4.2
[18:03] <mrkramps> passt_:$ lsb_release -a
[18:04] <passt_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13286887/
[18:05] <mrkramps> passt_:$ apt-cache policy linux-image-generic
[18:06] <passt_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13286947/
[18:07] <mrkramps> passt_:$ sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[18:08] <passt_> das fehlte mir, aus welchem grund auch immer
[18:09] <passt_> es wird jetzt auf jeden fall installiert
[18:09] <mrkramps> passt_, kann beim release upgrade auf der strecke geblieben sein
[18:09] <mrkramps> passt_, danach neustart, neuen kernel gegenchecken (uname -r) und virtualbox neu installieren
[18:10] <passt_> gut, dann schon mal danke so weit. ich werd ejetzt rebooten
[18:13] <Lothenon> na doll, darf ich mir ja doch ein ppa installieren
[18:39] <misterx> gratis router von cisco unter 01781917382
[18:40] <misterx> ups sry jungs bitte nicht anrufen
[18:40] <misterx> scheiße
[19:10] <h3cki> Hallo ich wollte mal den offtopic von ubuntu besuchen, komme aber nicht rein. Es steht das ich gebannt bin. Weiss jemand weshalb? ich war noch nicht in diesem chan
[19:13] <k1l> das liegt daran, das du mit zig anderen nicks schon da warst und gebannt bist.
[19:16] <h3cki> Ich war noch nicht hier. Kann es an meinem shell provider liegen? es muss sich um eine verwechslung handeln
[19:18] <h3cki> Bitte um support
[19:25] <jokrebel> h3cki: Fragen zu Bans ist kein Ubuntu-Support-Fall. In den Kanalregel die im Topic verlinkt sind findest Du dazu näheres.
[19:27] <h3cki> O mann wollte doch nur mal in den chan ot da liegt wohl ein problem vor
[19:27] <h3cki> woanders gehts dieser chan zb auch wunderbar
[19:28] <bekks> Du bist dort trotzdem gebannt und das wird trotzdem nicht hier diskutiert. Alle relevanten Informationen dazu hast du bereits erhalten.
[19:30] <h3cki> Ich bin ueber den umgangston hier in ubuntu channel empoert
[19:34] <h3cki> Ich werde das klaeren
[20:18] <BlackMage> mit rmdir kann ich ein Verzeichnis nicht löschen
[20:18] <BlackMage> keine Berechtigung sagt mir rmdir...
[20:18] <k1l> was ist die genaue meldung?
[20:19] <k1l> was sagt ls -al zu den rechten?
[20:19] <BlackMage> rmdir: konnte »directory/“ nicht entfernen: Keine Berechtigung
[20:19] <BlackMage> k1l: drwxrwxrwx
[20:20] <k1l> wo ist das verzeichnis?
[20:20] <BlackMage> in ~/Downloads
[20:23] <k1l> und was sagt ls -al zu besitzer und gruppe?
[20:25] <BlackMage> k1l: rechte sind drwxrwxr-x und Besitzer und Gruppe ist beides mein Benutzer
[20:25] <k1l> und die genaue fehlermeldung?
[20:26] <BlackMage> k1l: Vorgang nicht zulässig
[20:26] <BlackMage> mehr nicht
[20:26] <frostschutz> stat directory/ directory/..
[20:28] <BlackMage> frostschutz: und das soll mir was sagen?
[20:30] <BlackMage> und könnte es ein Problem sein das mein Homeverzeichnis die Rechte 700 hat?
[20:31] <frostschutz> solange du der owner bist, nicht
[20:32] <k1l> ist das evlt nen link, den du löschen willst?
[20:33] <BlackMage> nein ein ganz normales Verzeichnis
[20:33] <BlackMage> könnte es ein Problem das das Verzeichnis ~ im Namen hat?
[20:34] <k1l> aha
[20:34] <k1l> sag mal den ganzen namen
[20:34] <frostschutz> ein ~ im Namen ist kein Problem
[20:34] <BlackMage> ~kernel-ppa ist der ganze Name
[20:35] <k1l> evtl musste das escapen
[20:35] <frostschutz> und wenn es nicht richtig gequoted gewesen wäre hätte rmdir auch nicht den korrekten namne in der fehlermeldung
[20:35] <jokrebel> ist das dann nicht vielleicht schon im Papierkorb?
[20:36] <BlackMage> jokrebel: häh?
[20:37] <k1l> terminal hat kein papierkorb
[20:37] <BlackMage> könnte es vielleicht am Kernel liegen?
[20:38] <frostschutz> zeig stat ausgabe
[20:39] <jokrebel> Ach ne - das war bei Backup und da steht das ~ dann auch am Ende.
[20:43] <BlackMage> frostschutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13290557/
[20:44] <frostschutz> BlackMage, und lsattr ~kernel-ppa ~kernel-ppa/..?
[20:47] <BlackMage> frostschutz: was bedeutet ein i beim 5. Zeichen ? also ----i--------e--
[20:48] <frostschutz> daß es nicht gelöscht werden darf
[20:48] <frostschutz> hm
[20:48] <frostschutz> immutable
[20:48] <BlackMage> oh fehler gefunden
[20:49] <BlackMage> und wie bekommt ich das i wieder weg
[20:50] <frostschutz> mit chattr -i
[20:50] <frostschutz> ggf. mit sudo
[20:51] <frostschutz> .oO(interessantere frage wäre, wo kommt das i überhaupt her)
[20:52] <BlackMage> frostschutz: oh, da hab ich mal chattr +i gemacht damit es ich es nicht ausversehen lösche
[20:53] <BlackMage> aber schon erstaunlich wie schwer man das findet
[20:53] <frostschutz> bei verzeichnissen reicht da normal ein mkdir verzeichnis/.keep bzw. .nichtloeschen oder so
[20:54] <frostschutz> und dann halt nicht auf alles mit rm -rf losgehen
[21:00] <BlackMage> und warum zeigt die bash mir beim autocompleten mit TAB von ~ immer Möglichkeiten wie: ~avahi/ ~mail/ ~pulse an?
[21:01] <k1l> weil ~ für /home/user steht
[21:02] <mrkramps> die autovervollständigung zeigt dir dort alle benutzer an
[21:02] <BlackMage> ich dachte ~ steht nur für sein eigenes Homeverzeichnis?
[21:03] <mrkramps> BlackMage, im kontext ja
[21:04] <mrkramps> der kontext ist normalerweise der benutzer mit dem es aufgerufen wird
[21:05] <BlackMage> kann man das nicht deaktivieren? das beim autocompleten von ~ nur ein / gemacht wird?
[21:07] <BlackMage> also nur ein / angehängt wird
[21:09] <BlackMage> und wo wird das autocompleten überhaupt definiert?
[21:15] <frostschutz> man glob, und man deineshell, das macht jede so ein wenig bis ziemlich anders
[21:17] <frostschutz> bei man bash der Abschnitt Tilde Expansion. da gibts ein paar Sachen die ich noch nie benutzt habe (~+, ~-) ;) abstellen kann man das nur bedingt
[21:31] <David1977> vielleicht hilft das hier: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/homeverzeichnis
[21:31] <David1977> Das Home Verzeichnis ist wohl nicht so einfach zu verschieben.
[21:33] <David1977> BlackMage: du willst ein verzeichnis löschen und das geht nicht?
[21:33] <David1977> und das Verzeichnis liegt unter ~/Downloads?
[21:33] <BlackMage> David1977: hat sich schon erledigt
[21:33] <David1977> ok
[21:33] <k1l> David1977: ist schon geklärt. war nen chattr drauf
[21:34] <David1977> ok...keine Ahnung was ein chattr ist, aber das google ich gleich mal ;)
[21:35] <David1977> ah, ok
[21:35] <BlackMage> David1977: da kann z.B. ein Löschen verhindert werden
[21:35] <David1977> jaja...attribute. Schon verstanden ;)
[21:35] <David1977> man chattr hilf da ;)
[22:12] <David1977> nochmal ne doofe frage bzgl den attributen. Wo ist der Unterschied zu immutable und undeletable?
[22:13] <bekks> unveränderbar vs. nicht löschbar.
[22:13] <David1977> ah...nicht löschbar heißt dann aber, dass ich sie verändern könnte
[22:13] <David1977> also ist immutable sozusagen "sicherer" als undeletable
[22:13] <David1977> weil immutable auch das löscher verhindert
[22:14] <David1977> *löschen
[22:48] <Lothenon> öhm, reicht es, wenn ich in /etc/modules it87 eintrage, wenn ich die sensoren auslesen möchte oder muss ich in /etc/modprobe noch zusätzlich force_id=0x8728 eintragen?
[22:50] <mrkramps> bei mir reicht der eintrag von it87
[22:53] <Lothenon> jo, mal testen
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-us-tx
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[05:33] <wheresdave> anyone alive now?
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-nz
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[18:23] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:04] <mwhudson> morning
[21:28] <hads> morning
[21:57] <mwhudson> i tried to upgrade to wily on friday and ended up reinstalling :/
[21:57] <mwhudson> thank heavens for backups and usb3
[22:01] <ibeardslee> bit soon for wily isn't it?
[22:02] <ibeardslee> ..oh n/m wily is 15.10 .. carry on
[22:03] <mwhudson> :-)
[22:04] <ibeardslee> Xenial Xerus is 16.04
[22:05] <ajmitch> might still be a bit early to upgrade for some
[22:06] <ibeardslee> let's not get me on things like choices between things like Unity7/Xorg and Unity8/Mir .. LTS should be solid and set for one of them .. leave the other versions for that sort of playing
[22:11] <ajmitch> unity 8 by 18.04 then?
[22:13] <ibeardslee> heh, it might also come with perl 6
[22:15] <olly_> precise had perl 6: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/rakudo
[23:23] <chilts> afternoon
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-gnome
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[06:17] <Pandorian> ubuntu gnome is no longer loading the GUI shell inside a virtualbox, after some recent updates... any ideas why?
[06:17] <Pandorian> running gnome-shell returns errors
[07:29] <darkxst> Pandorian, please provide more details, what versions and perferably logs
[08:42] <darkxst> ricotz, I can't see why XDG_SESSION_CLASS Would be set in a login session, but probably doesnt matter if its the correct value
[08:43] <darkxst> though I do wonder if we now have a running systemd user sessions
[09:37] <Pandorian> its ok i solved the problem, not fully sure how... i think it might have been either a bug in the vbox or memory allocation issue where i had to free up more ram
[09:38] <darkxst> Pandorian, vbox is a piece of crap, just use vmware player ;)
[09:38] <Pandorian> the latest verion seems to be ok
[09:38] <Pandorian> how is vmware player superior?
[09:39] <darkxst> Pandorian, all the core guest side stuff (including 3D drivers) is fully open-source and mainlined in the kernel
[09:39] <Pandorian> i see
[09:39] <darkxst> like you can boot any livecd, and it will be fully functional without installing guest additions
[09:41] <darkxst> and there is a reason the evil (According to some) proprietry company has their 3d driver in the mainline kernal, and vbox never will!
[09:46] <Pandorian> i will definitely experiment with it
[12:30] <lindol> hi all\
[13:10] <lindol> darkxst, Hi :)
[13:20] <lindol> Where could i get Ubuntu gnome 16.04 image?
[13:20] <lindol> for testing
[13:57] <x-Na> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[14:06] <lindol> x-Na, Thnk you for your help :)
[14:06] <lindol> :-)
[18:00] <bcx> Hi is it possible to get back icons on nautilus right-click menus on 3.18?
[18:00] <bcx> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides {'Gtk/MenuImages': <1>} doesn't work anymore, any idea ?
[18:00] <bcx> his is specially an issue for people with weak eyes like me, icons help us a lot
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-server
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[02:27] <tsimonq2> just curious, I have seen build servers for Ubuntu that build packages for the repos. Are those only Ubuntu servers that can do that, or can I contribute my free resources to do this on my server?
[02:38] <PryMar56> tsimonq2, nothing is stopping you. apt-get source PackageOfInterest
[02:39] <PryMar56> tsimonq2, run ^^ as user
[02:43] <tsimonq2> PryMar56: but is there an automated way of doing this and reporting it back to the server like the automatic build machines?
[02:55] <PryMar56> tsimonq2, I can barely rebuild a single dsc by hand.. I would never try that
[02:56] <tsimonq2> PryMar56: but then how do the servers do it?
[02:56] <PryMar56> tsimonq2, that is need to know basis.. when you need to know, all will be disclosed (my interpretation)
[03:11] <tsimonq2> PryMar56: can you disclose?
[03:45] <tsimonq2> PryMar56: I would like to know
[06:21] <hungry_mosquito> Hi! how to I create a Limit rule for a user in Ubuntu Server 15 ?
[06:21] <hungry_mosquito> erm...bandwidth limit rule.
[10:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[16:38] <stochastix> I take it ubuntu 14.04 does not use systemd?
[16:40] <jelly> stochastix: correct
[16:40] <jelly> 14.04 LTS is still on upstart
[16:46] <stochastix> jelly: thanks. Do you know off hand if you change the nginx website root dir in the nginx.conf file?
[16:47] <jelly> no idea about nginx
[16:47] <stochastix> k, thanks, let me google that for me :)
[17:25] <mrtAkdeniz> guys hey there
[17:25] <mrtAkdeniz> how did I done i have no idea, but I stopped my server's ssh
[17:26] <mrtAkdeniz> i checked what is listening port 22
[17:26] <mrtAkdeniz> it returns nothing..
[18:49] <lordievader> That makes sense, right?
[21:35] <jaffray> Hello from Canada. I would like to setup a network of ubuntu machines across a few physical servers running ESXi 6 as the hypervisor and ubuntu server as the os for most machines. I find that it's a pain setting up user accounts on each machine. My research leads me to believe that I want to setup an authentication server with all user information. Would someone please kindly give me
[21:35] <jaffray> some important terms and concepts which I should include in my research so I can address the important issues? Right now I see LDAP as the user database, I know I need RSA keys for users, and I have yet to figure out how to have the other servers use the authentication server for their accounts. Thank you and much appreciated!
[21:40] <TJ-> !info libpam-ldap | jaffray
[21:51] <stochastix> how do i see what version of php is installed?
[21:51] <stochastix> can i see that with aptitude?
[21:52] <TJ-> stochastix: "apt-cache policy php5" ?
[21:54] <stochastix> is php5 different than php5-fpm?
[21:56] <bekks> yes.
[21:58] <jaffray> TJ - Thanks. I'll start with that. Any other 'search-terms/concepts" or programs you can suggest?
[22:45] <bindi> which usb creation tool should I use for 14.04 server?
[22:45] <bekks> bindi: dd
[22:45] <bindi> which usb creation tool should I use for 14.04 server on windows?
[22:46] <bekks> rufus
[22:46] <bindi> hi, i've tried to create my usb 3 times now, md5sum matches for the ubuntu-14.04.3-server-amd64.iso, tried with unetbootin twice and linux live usb creator. it always fails integrity check on the same package: ./pool/main/m/maas/python-maas-provisioningserver_1.7.6+bzr3376-0ubuntu2~14.04.1_all.deb
[22:46] <bindi> posted that on #ubuntu - you sure it'll work? :P
[22:46] <bindi> i checked the md5sum of that file myself just now and it matches what the md5s file has
[22:47] <bekks> bindi: check the md5sum of the iso.
[22:47] <bindi> i did that aswell
[22:47] <bindi> i did mention that
[22:48] <bindi> do i want to use "write in iso image mode (recommended)" or "write in dd image mode"?
[22:50] <bindi> *cough*
[22:51] <bindi> going with dd :)
[23:15] <jvwjgames> How do I regenerate 80 persistent rules
[23:15] <jvwjgames> That control the network
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-si
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[10:16] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tELkm-dn2g
[10:16] <Pepelka> Full CBS Democratic Presidential Debate - 11/14/15 - YouTube
[10:16] <idioterna> feeling the bern
[10:17] <Sky[x]> idioterna: priporocas kej bolj simpl kot je zookeeper ?
[10:17] <Sky[x]> https://zookeeper.apache.org/
[10:17] <Pepelka> Apache ZooKeeper - Home
[10:21] <CrazyLemon> : [ContextSpecificAclFactory]LocationConsent failed, ULR opt-in status is: false
[10:21] <CrazyLemon> 11-15 11:20:18.426 2120 3678 W ctxmgr : [AclManager]checkPermissionTypeStatus: no write permission for AppMetadata{mUid=10008, mPackageName='com.google.android.gms'}. Returned permission was: USER_CONSENT_REQUIRED for context name: USER_LOCATION
[10:21] <CrazyLemon> whats up with this? kaj moram dovolit da mi neha spammat log
[10:21] <Sky[x]> kako beres sploh te loge?
[10:22] <CrazyLemon> adb logcat?
[10:22] <CrazyLemon> :)
[10:22] <Sky[x]> aha
[10:22] <Sky[x]> jst si morm zrihtat da androida prklom na komp pa da lahko vidm ves traffic
[10:23] <Sky[x]> pa loge bi blo tuf fajn :>
[10:26] <CrazyLemon> za traffic mi je enkrat dz0ny omenil en proxy app pa ne spomnim se še neki je bilo
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> [12:28] <dz0ny> namesti droidproxy
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> [12:28] <dz0ny> pa na ubuntu mitmproxy
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> [12:28] <dz0ny> povez
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> [12:28] <dz0ny> pa bos dobil vse
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> evo :)
[10:27] <CrazyLemon> proxydroid*
[10:29] <CrazyLemon> evo..stupid google
[10:29] <CrazyLemon> location history omogočiš pa ne spamma več log
[10:31] <Sky[x]> hehe
[10:31] <Sky[x]> rabu bi vidt kam app dela rquste na kater API :)
[10:31] <Sky[x]> itd ..
[10:34] <Sky[x]> CrazyLemon: a tole je misleno da nardis proxy na kompu in ves promet preko kompa preusmeris?
[10:41] <Sky[x]> CrazyLemon: pa si ze kdaj probaval mitmproxy+droidproxy ?
[10:48] <Sky[x]> CrazyLemon: za proxydroid rabis root :)
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> skyx ne rabiš roota
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> in ja sem
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> enkrat lani
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> ko mi je dz0ny tudi to napisal
[11:41] <skyx> app opozori ko ga odprs da rabi root :)
[11:41] <skyx> sej zdj sem drugace naredil :D
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> hmm..ja vidim zdaj
[11:41] <skyx> hotsport prk wifi pa wirshark :)
[11:41] <CrazyLemon> ampak js nimam roota :)
[11:41] <dz0ny> sam se kr bos radu svoj cert dat not
[11:42] <dz0ny> tko da root obvezen
[11:42] <dz0ny> sam ce rabis pogledat apk
[11:42] <dz0ny> je lazji apk2gold
[11:43] <skyx> zanima me na kater API letijo requesti :)
[11:43] <skyx> in ce poslje kot application/json
[12:03] <skyx> eh kekc, itak gr vs prek 443 in ni nic za vidt jaoo
[12:22] <dz0ny> lol
[12:22] <dz0ny> we talk too much i guess
[12:23] <skyx> jp :)
[12:30] <dz0ny> but no one does the reading !!!
[13:09] <yang> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTzDo7qUYAAs1lW.jpg:large
[13:28] <CrazyLemon> https://www.fcc.gov/blog/clearing-air-wi-fi-software-updates
[13:28] <Pepelka> Clearing the Air on Wi-Fi Software Updates | FCC.gov
[13:28] <Pepelka> »This week marked the closing of the reply comment period in the Commission’s radio device approval modernization rulemaking.«
[13:48] <zdobbie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS0jNP_ldks
[13:48] <Pepelka> Malcolm In The Middle - Coming Soon - YouTube
[13:48] <Pepelka> »Before he was Walter White he was the Dad in Malcolm In The Middle Subscribe to Comedy Central UK: http://bit.ly/1gaKaZO Check out the Comedy Central UK webs...«
[14:01] <zdobbie> hva zj
[14:01] <zdobbie> a bomo kej borbal
[14:17] <pitastrudl> ne
[14:17] <CrazyLemon> malcom in the middle? new? but there is nothing new in that video
[14:22] <zdobbie> !t sl en obresti
[14:22] <Pepelka> interest
[14:22] <zdobbie> eyy
[14:25] <CrazyLemon> omg!
[14:26] <CrazyLemon> thats so obrestiing
[14:42] <netkat> jebo ga pulseaudio, me je skor kap, kr naenkrat muzika z vseh strani
[14:42] <netkat> se dobr d ni bil thunderstruck
[14:59] <pitastrudl> haha
[14:59] <pitastrudl> ripp
[15:29] <netkat> se ena zuni https://000webhost.thecthulhu.com/
[15:29] <Pepelka> 000webhost Data Dump | TheCthulhu
[15:54] <idioterna> kje je pa sky zdej
[15:55] <CrazyLemon> its foggy outside..so no sky for you mister!
[15:57] <idioterna> hm
[15:57] <CrazyLemon> http://www.siol.net/sportal/kolesarstvo/2015/11/marko_baloh_svetovni_prvak_v_24_urnem_kronometru.aspx
[15:57] <Pepelka> Marko Baloh postal svetovni prvak v 24-urnem kronometru | Kolesarstvo - Planet Siol.net
[15:57] <Pepelka> »Slovenski ultrakolesar Marko Baloh je v Borrego Springsu v Kaliforniji osvojil naslov svetovnega prvaka v 24-urni vožnji na čas.«
[15:57] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ^
[15:57] <idioterna> lihkar sm z letalisca pa ni nc kej zlo foggy v zraku
[15:58] <CrazyLemon> kam pa si letel?
[16:00] <idioterna> v krogih
[16:00] <idioterna> bbl
[16:00] <idioterna> a so ze nove mape za insurgency mogoce?
[16:00] <idioterna> eiffel_coop
[16:01] <CrazyLemon> sej maš shitload community map
[16:02] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: so what!
[16:04] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie rejoice fcker! RE-EFFIN-JOICE!
[16:10] <CrazyLemon> Sky[x] idioterna te išče
[16:15] <Sky[x]> tnx :)
[16:15] <Sky[x]> idioterna: ys?
[16:15] <Sky[x]> yes*
[16:17] <Sky[x]> bbl
[17:07] <zdobbie> whoa
[17:07] <zdobbie> bold move cotton
[17:57] <idioterna> Sky[x]: ja
[17:58] <idioterna> Sky[x]: am, etcd
[17:58] <idioterna> mene velik bl navdusuje k zk
[18:11] <idioterna> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tELkm-dn2g#t=59m48
[18:11] <Pepelka> Full CBS Democratic Presidential Debate - 11/14/15 - YouTube
[18:25] <zdobbie> NINE ELEVEN
[18:25] <zdobbie> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/15/hillary-clinton-invoked-911-to-defend-her-ties-to-wall-street-what/
[18:25] <Pepelka> Hillary Clinton invoked 9/11 to defend her ties to Wall Street. What? - The Washington Post
[18:25] <Pepelka> »Not a good moment.«
[18:29] <pitastrudl> rip
[18:30] <CrazyLemon> kakšna ideja zakaj se laptop ugasne? ventilator je spucan.. temperature ko se ugasne so tam okrog 70ish
[18:30] <CrazyLemon> pa en 'tk' se sliši ko se ugasne
[18:31] <pitastrudl> mogoče je ta tk od diska k se ustav?
[18:31] <CrazyLemon> tudi ce bi se ustavu...mislis da bi takoj tudi laptop 'mrknu'?
[18:32] <pitastrudl> ne sam pravim da ta zvok mogoče ni razlog da se ugaša
[18:32] <pitastrudl> pač da je ta "tk" od diska zvok, ki se ustavi.
[18:32] <CrazyLemon> sej ne pravim da je razlog..pravim da ko se ugasne se sliši ta tk zvok
[18:32] <pitastrudl> jaja sej
[18:32] <pitastrudl> vglavnem
[18:33] <pitastrudl> si pogledal v bios da ni mogoče safety temp naštiman na tam okoli 70 stopinj
[18:33] <pitastrudl> kaj pa da laufaš laptop samo na kablu, brez baterije?
[18:33] <pitastrudl> si probat laufat ubuntu livecd za neki cajta?
[18:34] <zdobbie> CrazyLemon: APU?
[18:34] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie i5
[18:34] <CrazyLemon> pitastrudl sm že prej testiral ta laptop in je zdržal do 110° in je nato se ugasnu
[18:34] <pitastrudl> mogoče je user kaj drkal v biosih, si jih probal dati na defualt
[18:35] <CrazyLemon> pa sestra dvomim da bi šlatala kaj po biosu ker ne vedo niti kako se pride do biosa.. bom pa mal prečekiral bios ja
[18:35] <pitastrudl> ok
[18:35] <CrazyLemon> glede kabla je pa tko.. baterija je itak tako slaba da brez kabla ne zdrži dosti :D
[18:35] <CrazyLemon> in je na kablu že zelo dolgo
[18:35] <pitastrudl> ja sam dej baterijo ven
[18:35] <pitastrudl> ¯\(°_o)/¯
[18:39] <CrazyLemon> why?
[18:41] <pitastrudl> why not
[18:41] <pitastrudl> škodl ne bo ane
[18:41] <pitastrudl> ಠ_ಠ
[18:55] <yang> CrazyLemon: morda podoben problem...https://s5tech.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3287
[19:56] <CrazyLemon> yang naah
[19:56] <CrazyLemon> imho je tezava v SW
[19:56] <CrazyLemon> avg + windows 10 očitno ni najboljša kombinacija
[19:56] <CrazyLemon> avg ne dovoli win10 da se posodobi
[19:56] <CrazyLemon> ker pustil sem na miru laptop pa ni bilo težav
[19:57] <pitastrudl> heh
[19:57] <CrazyLemon> obnovil sem zadnji restore point tudi ni bilo težav..razn z enim avgcli.dll
[19:57] <zdobbie> lolwut
[19:57] <zdobbie> prav windowse mas gor?
[19:57] <CrazyLemon> sedaj po obnovitvi restore pointa pa tudi ni avg dovolil update.. oziroma je spodletel
[19:57] <CrazyLemon> dokler nisem onemogočil avgja
[19:57] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie ja..like legit
[19:58] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie kako boš drugače delal powerpoint predstavitve če nimaš windowsa?
[19:58] <zdobbie> libreoffice
[19:58] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie niga pls
[19:58] <CrazyLemon> libreoffice nima pol tistih animacij ki jih ima powerpoint
[20:00] <pitastrudl> kek
[20:03] <zdobbie> sellout
[20:04] <CrazyLemon> said a guy with lame powerpoint presentations
[20:04] <CrazyLemon> L
[20:04] <CrazyLemon> zihr sploh ne veš kaj je blinds transition effect
[20:06] <zdobbie> a transition effect that mimics blinds
[20:11] <netkat> kaj pa https://github.com/tybenz/vimdeck al pa https://github.com/yaronn/wopr
[20:11] <Pepelka> tybenz/vimdeck · GitHub
[20:11] <Pepelka> »vimdeck - VIM as a presentation tool«
[20:11] <netkat> ce ze ne beamer
[20:14] <Sky[x]> cer
[20:14] <Sky[x]> idioterna: tnx, sem tud ze jst gledal etcd :)
[20:18] <CrazyW10> sup zdobbie
[20:18] <CrazyW10> a ti naredim en powerpoint presentation?
[20:19] <zdobbie> dej!
[20:19] <zdobbie> z blindsi
[20:19] <CrazyW10> zdobbie: vodne zivali ali macke?
[20:20] <CrazyW10> priporocam macke
[20:20] <zdobbie> CrazyW10: kavke
[20:21] <CrazyW10> zdobbie: macke bos dobil ker nisem se koncal vodne zivali
[20:21] <zdobbie> they why ask
[20:21] <zdobbie> then*
[20:21] <CrazyW10> zdobbie: sorry no..sm mislu da je done
[20:23] <CrazyW10> zdobbie: http://wikisend.com/download/283720/Mačke.pptx
[20:24] <Pepelka> Wikisend: free file sharing service
[20:24] <CrazyW10> zdaj pa grem rebootat..imas cas da si ogledas predstavitev
[20:26] <zdobbie> yeeeeh I don't download files from strangers
[20:50] <CrazyLemon> zdobbie_ you suck man.. toliko casa je bilo vlozenega v macke
[20:59] <netkat> keyser soze? http://www.businessinsider.my/nick-szabo-ethereum-bitcoin-blockchain-history-satoshi-nakamoto-2015-11/#GWKS300eqT2eAQUh.97
[20:59] <Pepelka> The man everything thinks is the creator of bitcoin gave a speech discussing the history of the technology - Business Insider
[20:59] <Pepelka> »Business Insider/Rob PriceSzabo discusses the ideological origins of bitcoin and ethereum, including Ayn Rand (L) and Friedrich Hayek (R).Nick Szabo, the m...«
[23:00] <Sky[x]> idioterna: sam tale etcd je kr nice :)
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.386967
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-cz
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[19:34] <Vlado2> caute
[21:01] <Vlado2> caute, je tu niekto?
[21:01] <Vlado2> FrostyX, Chinese_soup, jednorozec, mgp_, |Nuclear|, potion
[21:20] <Vlado2> snazim sa nainstalovat lubuntu 15.10, dal som spustit live lubuntu na odskusanie ale komp je uz niekolko hodin zaseknuty na obrazovke s logom lubuntu a piatimi bodkami, bodky sa menia
[21:21] <Vlado2> mam Pentium M dothan, 2GB ram a ATI mobility FireGL V5000
[21:21] <Vlado2> lubuntu 14.04.3 som skusal tiez, to za dakych 5 minut nabootovalo do desktopu ale nevedelo zdetekovat moju wifi kartu tak som ho nechal tak
[21:22] <FrostyX> rad bych pomohl, ale uz delsi dobu nepouzivam ubuntu
[21:24] <Vlado2> skoda, ale aj tak dakujem za ochotu...
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.389521
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"Vlado2"
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-africa
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[13:41] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[13:41] <Kilos> hi craigbrash
[13:48] <craigbrash> hi Kilos hot here
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.390203
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-vn
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[03:37] <vubuntor638> chao anh chi admin
[03:38] <vubuntor638> em xin hoi: khi em upgrade ubuntu 15.10 du lieu trong may em co bi mat khong?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.390794
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-us-fl
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[00:49] <ahoneybun> balloons: going to fossetcon right?
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.391366
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2015-11-15-#juju-dev
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[21:00] <menn0> thumper: I've figured out the CI blocker. fix should be easy. doing it now.
[21:00] <thumper> menn0: kk
[21:54] <menn0> thumper: blocker fix: http://reviews.vapour.ws/r/3144/
[21:54] <thumper> ta
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.392109
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-touch
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[08:05] <Spacedawgg_ie> yo dudes, relaise this is a software support channel mainly, but If I have a hardware problem, it can't see SIM no matter what I do. if I bought an android phone off the highstreet, I'd return it and get a replacement, what's the procedure for return a faulty MX4 handset bought from the ubuntu.com site? who do I contact?
[08:06] <Spacedawgg_ie> in the spirit of the old addage about getting linux community support please insert snide "windows phone is better than ubuntu touch for customer support" comment here. ;)
[14:00] <jaywink> hi! anyone got any pointers to how I could get an app without a GUI into the sharing menu? so the plan is an app that takes an url (from share menu) and launches the browser to a defined bookmarklet address, since the browser does not currrently support those
[14:12] <jaywink> or basically the question is - how do I list an app to be included into the share menu? looking at sources of Pockit (https://github.com/turanmahmudov/PockIt), having hard time understanding what does that trigger
[14:12] <jaywink> I guess I can make mine a QML app if the UI is a must..
[17:12] <dtrg> Hello --- does anyone have a source of *manual* instructions for installing Ubuntu Touch?
[19:30] <jaywink> tried to hack on an app today, first time with SDK. Was following some API docs and came upon the need for Ubuntu.Content QML lib. Now, I'm on 14.04 but the target is set to 15.04 sdk. Thus I was surprised that this library was not imporable in my SDK. Does one really need 15.04 to develop apps with this library, or is there something wrong in my SDK install?
[19:37] <hasselmm> jaywink: guess the proper channel is #ubuntu-app-devel ... although it seems very dead around this time
[19:41] <jaywink> hasselmm, ah thanks, thought this was the one for everything ubuntu phone :)
[19:42] <hasselmm> jaywink: well, yeah... actually i am very clueless about his phone still... only got int a few days ago
[19:42] <hasselmm> s/int/it/mine/
[19:44] <jaywink> olny had mine for a week or so too. desperately want to make an app for sharing links with, so trying to hack something together that pops in share menu and then when shared to launches a bookmarklet url in the browser
[19:47] <hasselmm> jaywink: yeah, the joy (no pun) of owning a niche phone :D
[19:47] <hasselmm> i struggle so far with the qtcreator in the ubuntu sdk killing the kits of qtcreator from git
[19:48] <hasselmm> must find a way to keep my kits first, before i can proceed
[19:49] <jaywink> I struggle with QtCreator. Period. :D
[19:49] <hasselmm> what? :D
[19:50] <hasselmm> jaywink: guess you rather struggle with its ubuntu plugin :D
[19:50] <jaywink> struggling to understand and use it ;) though the run stuff is very nice, works like a dream
[19:51] <jaywink> running an app on the phone
[19:52] <hasselmm> jaywink: i just wish the ubuntu plugin would live in the qtc repository, just like the plugins for android, ios, blackberry, meego, ...
[19:52] <hasselmm> less trouble for people using qtc for their daily work
[19:52] <jaywink> sounds reasonable :/
[22:14] <Diotallevi> Hi
[23:28] <xenchrarr> Hi guys. I'm trying to install ubuntu touch on my meizu mx4. When I bought it, it had ubuntu tou installed, then I installed flyme, and now I have android on it. So I have unlocked everything I need I think, but when I try to install with "ubuntu-device-flash" it says that it can't find the device M75 on the server.. Have anyone done this?
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-ko
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[00:46] <ipeter__> 좋은 일요일 아침입니다.
[00:46] <ipeter__> 오즈님은
[00:46] <ipeter__> 문상 잘 가셨는지 걱정이네요.
[03:35] <Questions> https://www.ubuntu-kr.org/event/
[03:35] <Questions> 여기 말씀드리는겁니다
[03:44] <HolyKnight> 아하. 질문이 소스파일들을 올리는 거 맞냐는 건가보네요.
[03:53] <Questions> 네네
[04:56] <Questions> 흠...
[05:17] <h-pc> ...
[05:17] <h-pc> 쿠분투가 짱입니다..써보세요...(퍼억)ㅡㅡ;
[05:18] <h-pc> 마치 윈도 쓰는거 같은 경험..ㅡㅡ;(광고하지마!!)
[05:24] <Ferendevelop> angrystar: 어제 결국 KDE 설치 성공하셨나 보네요ㅎㅎ
[05:51] <HolyKnight> 뭘 업로드해야하는지는 아무래도 문의해보셔야할 듯 하네유.
[08:34] <ipeter> 휴
[08:34] <ipeter> 돌아왔습니다.
[08:34] <ipeter> 출근했어요
[08:42] <PotatoGim> 주말 출근이라니...
[08:42] <PotatoGim> 라면서 저도 사무실입니다...
[09:52] <ipeter> 포테토님 짱!!!!
[09:52] <ipeter> 멋찌십니다-
[10:00] <PotatoGim> ...흔히들...
[10:00] <PotatoGim> 노예라고 하죠...ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
[10:00] <PotatoGim> 자발적 노예....
[10:07] <ipeter> 으흐흑
[10:08] <ipeter> 전 공부좀 하러 왔는데...
[10:08] <ipeter> 음악만 듣고
[10:08] <ipeter> 하나도 안하고 있습니다.
[10:08] <ipeter> 으흐흑
[10:08] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[10:09] <ipeter> 공부좀 하고 오겠습니다.
[10:09] <ipeter> ㅠㅠㅠ
[10:09] <ipeter> 으흐흑
[10:44] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3704574&cpage=2
[13:13] <HolyKnight> http://mlbpark.donga.com/mbs/articleV.php?mbsC=bullpen2&mbsIdx=3705611&cpage=1
[13:16] <PotatoGim> ...모닝콜...
[13:17] <PotatoGim> ASKY라 혹하네요..ㅜ
[13:17] <HolyKnight> ㅠㅠ
[13:18] <PotatoGim> https://archive.fosdem.org/2015/schedule/events/
[13:22] <PotatoGim> 2016년 스케줄은 아직 안 잡혔네요...
[14:52] <ipeter__> 아이고
[14:52] <ipeter__> 요즘에는 무슨 소개팅을 사진보고 사전검열 다하네요.
[14:52] <ipeter__> 후배놈에게 소개팅 하나 이야기 했다가
[14:52] <ipeter__> 사진 보내라고 해서
[14:52] <ipeter__> 여자쪽에 넘겨줬네요
[14:53] <ipeter__> 아니 요즘에는 소개팅을 사진보고 다 결정하고 나가나요.
[14:53] <ipeter__> 아이고 무슨 진짜 황당하기 그지 없네요.
[14:55] <HolyKnight> 토닭토닭
[14:56] <HolyKnight> 요즘 아무래도 외모도 중요시하니.... 서로 시간낭비하지말자는
[14:56] <HolyKnight> 의미 같습니다.
[14:58] <ipeter__> 저도 그렇게 받아들이고 있긴한데요,
[14:59] <ipeter__> 그래도 전 잘 모르겠네요..ㅠ
[15:38] <autowiz_> 저 왔져요 ㅎㅎㅎ
[16:03] <bluedusk> 뭐 기분 나쁠수도 있지만 어차피
[16:04] <bluedusk> 만나서 밥먹고 시간버리고 그럴꺼면 에초에 잘된거라고.. 생각하심이..
[16:19] <PotatoGim> 아고~ 멀리 다녀오느라 고생 많으셨습니다~
[16:25] <autowiz_> KTX 선로에서 사고난 친구 장례식에 KTX 를 타고 가야하는 마음이 참 착잡하더라구요 ㅠㅠ
[16:50] <PotatoGim> 이런...
[16:56] <autowiz_> 잠은 언제 주무실려고 아직 안자고 계시는지요
[16:57] <PotatoGim> 2시에는 자러 가려고 합니다 ㅎㅎ
[16:58] <autowiz_> 힝 ~ 2분후면 빠이빠이 인가요 ㅠㅠ
[16:59] <PotatoGim> 저는 전형적인 코리안 타임을 준수하는 사람이라...
[17:00] <autowiz_> 크흘흘 농담입니다.
[17:00] <autowiz_> 어서 주무시러 가시지요 ( 꿈속에서 뵙겠습니다 캬~ )
[17:02] <PotatoGim> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/turris-omnia-hi-performance-open-source-router#/
[17:02] <PotatoGim> 물건이네요..ㅎㅎ
[17:02] <PotatoGim> SFP까지 있다니...
[17:06] <autowiz_> 오오 좋은데요 ㅋㅋ
[17:11] <PotatoGim> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/magicstick-most-powerful-pc-stick-8gb-ram#/
[19:21] <DarkCircle> 설마 이시간에 - -)
[23:25] <autowiz_> 에고 깨 있었는데 챗창을 못봤네요
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.415191
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-motu
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[19:38] <Unit193> micahg: General ping, Bug 1510329, Bug 1510331
[19:38] <micahg> still having trouble with my sbuild :(
[19:39] <Unit193> Oh wow, quick response there! Anything I can do?
[19:39] <micahg> nope, just need to find time to debug
[19:39] <Unit193> Bummer, OK. Thanks.
[19:40] <Unit193> Also requested a sync, 1516134.
[19:42] <micahg> I"ll see what I can do
[19:42] <Unit193> Danke.
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.417805
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
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2015-11-15-#lubuntu
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[07:29] <Blessed> Hi can i upgrade Lubuntu to 14.04 from 12.04 without updating kernel?
[07:43] <ianorlin> Blessed: if you really want to but I am not sure why you would want to do that
[07:43] <ianorlin> Lubuntu 12.04 was not an LTS release
[07:44] <Blessed> i have Lubuntu LTS
[07:44] <Blessed> 12
[07:55] <Blessed> hwo ccan i do it?
[11:00] <Cheaterman> hello buddies i hope you're doing good
[11:00] <Cheaterman> i'm on a lubuntu livecd to recover my gentoo and i have some questions
[11:00] <Cheaterman> it seems that lubuntu is very different from ubuntu? from what I see, i don't have pulseaudio?
[11:00] <Cheaterman> ● pulseaudio.service Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[11:01] <Cheaterman> as i said i'm booted on the installation media if it makes any difference
[11:02] <Cheaterman> i'm asking that because lxde seems to have some software volume control nonetheless
[11:03] <Cheaterman> much like if there was PA
[11:03] <Cheaterman> and it's not linked to any channel in alsamixer
[11:04] <Cheaterman> once again, much like if there was PA
[11:04] <Cheaterman> other than that, it seems to be the best Ubuntu derivative around, so gratz to everyone and keep up the good work
[11:05] <Cheaterman> (the fact that I use lxde tools in my own setup might make me biaised, my desktop is basically lxpanel + openbox + pcmanfm for desktop icons)
[18:52] <Vlado2> hi, is it normal that Booting Lubuntu 15.10 from DVD takes about 2 hours on Pentium M?
[19:06] <Vlado2> is anyone here?
[19:28] <Vlado2> hi
[21:08] <Vlado2> hi, is anybody here?
[21:12] <bioterror> !ask | Vlado2
[21:15] <Vlado2> i'm trying to install lubuntu 15.10 on my Pentium M laptop, i selected "try live lubuntu" or something like that but, laptop is stuck at loading screen with lubuntu logo and five dots for several hours, any idea what should i do? i tried also lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS but that one didn't detect my wifi card
[21:18] <Vlado2> but 14.04 did boot to desktop at least...
[21:43] <ianorlin> Vlado2: Do you know what kind of wifi card?
[21:44] <ianorlin> also how much ram?
[21:44] <Vlado2> Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG, 2GB ram
[21:44] <ianorlin> hmm that should work and should be enough to not have to use alternate
[21:45] <ianorlin> Vlado2: have you checked the md5sum of 15.10 and the install media for 15.10 is good?
[21:45] <Vlado2> yes, i did, both
[21:46] <Vlado2> do you want complete HW spec?
[21:46] <ianorlin> do you have acess to ethernet at least for the install ?
[21:46] <ianorlin> would be helpful
[21:47] <ianorlin> are you on another os on that pentium m right now?
[21:48] <ianorlin> I would probably try 14.04.3 then try to get wifi card working
[21:49] <Vlado2> HP nw8240, Pentium M Dothan 1.73GHz (SSE2, PAE, NX bit), 2GB ram, ATI mobility FireGL V5000, Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG, broadcom bcm5751MKFB ETH NIC, some BT adapter, Matsushita DVD writer (PATA connected), 250GB PATA HDD
[21:50] <Vlado2> i'm writing from my desktop (win)
[21:50] <Vlado2> and... Trusted Platform Module
[21:51] <ianorlin> on the laptop?
[21:51] <Vlado2> yep
[21:51] <ianorlin> oh I have not dealt with those but heard they can make installing other things tricky
[21:52] <Vlado2> so i should try to remove it for installation?
[21:52] <ianorlin> I am not if it is soldered on
[21:53] <ianorlin> although I don't know about ATI mobility FIREGL might have a graphics issue with 15.10
[21:53] <Vlado2> the TPM can be removed, but... o
[21:53] <Vlado2> o
[21:53] <ianorlin> !nomodeset
[21:57] <Vlado2> well, graphics was working correctly on lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, but as i already mentioned, wifi was not workin, WiFi LED on laptop was blinking, as if it was trying to turn it on and off and on again...
[22:02] <Vlado2> whoa, after several hours the lubuntu booted and is now prompting for login, i switched to F7 and there are several failures
[22:05] <Vlado2> failed to start load kernel modules, see systemctl status systemd-module-load.service for details
[22:06] <Vlado2> failed to start apply kernel variables
[22:06] <Vlado2> failed to start journal service
[22:08] <Vlado2> on the end is: [*** ] (2 of 4) a start job is running for light display manager (1min 45s/3min) [4834.504773] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 258968
[22:08] <Vlado2> and several more I/O errors are appearing
[22:13] <bioterror> your cd/dvd drive might be taking the last breaths or the disc itself
[22:13] <bioterror> try USB
[22:15] <Vlado2> well, just couple hours ago i tried on that same drive and using the same DVD-RW booting Lubuntu 14.04 and it worked, so i doubt that there is any HW problem or problem with DVD-RW disc
[22:15] <Geogts> i've been using qbittorrent for a while with no problems at all. today i did sudo apt-get upgrade qbittorrent and now it makes no connections. when i uninstalled it and reinstalled it, it still had all the same exact settings and it was still not working. how can i completely remove the program and reinstall it without having any settings or files left behind?
[22:24] <Geogts1> anyone?
[22:27] <bioterror> Geogts1, are you behind a NAT? if so, then forward that port
[22:27] <Geogts1> checked port forwarding. port is fine on canyouseeme.org
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.432083
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
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"Blessed",
"Cheaterman",
"Geogts",
"Geogts1",
"Vlado2",
"bioterror",
"ianorlin"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/15/%23lubuntu.txt",
"channel": "#lubuntu"
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-pl
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[10:01] <kazimiera> halo:)
[10:02] <kazimiera> pisze sobie skrypcik w bash i troche sie rozrosl. W jakim edytorze da sie ukryc pewne linie zeby latwiej sie pracowalo?
[10:03] <Dread> było lepiej pisać
[10:03] <TheNumb> kazimiera: gedit chyba potrafi nawet
[10:03] <FoxShot> Czesc
[10:04] <kazimiera> TheNumb: poszukam w gedicie, ale moze jest w sublimetext? Bo fajnie mi sie w tym pisze.
[10:04] <TheNumb> na pewno jest
[10:05] <TheNumb> poszukaj jakiegoś rozszerzenia może
[10:05] <TheNumb> vim to potrafi
[10:05] <TheNumb> atom też
[10:05] <TheNumb> dziwne, żeby w sublime nie było
[10:06] <FoxShot> Atoma instaluj
[10:07] <kazimiera> szukam w googlu dla sublime i narazie nie znajduje.
[10:09] <FoxShot> Ma ktos jakis dobry sposob zeby w irssi ustawic utf8?
[10:13] <FoxShot> kurde
[10:13] <FoxShot> `utf
[10:13] <FoxShot> Nie dziala :(
[10:14] <kazimiera> znalazlam :)
[10:16] <FoxShot> kazimiera: masz na prawde tak na imie?
[10:18] <kazimiera> tak. Nietypowe dosc :)
[10:20] <FoxShot> i korzystasz z linuksa?
[10:21] <kazimiera> tak. mint. Ankiete jakas robisz? ;)
[10:25] <FoxShot> Hmmm
[10:25] <FoxShot> nie prowadzilas kiedys teleturnieju w telewizji?
[10:26] <kazimiera> dobre ;) Nie bylam w mediach :D
[10:29] <kazimiera> chyba wiadome ze taka super z linuksa nie jestem, a z programowania to tym bardziej.
[10:30] <kazimiera> Takie pytanie. Czy moge sobie zadeklarowac jakas funkcje w srodku petli i bedzie mi dzialac
[10:30] <kazimiera> jesli bedzie to oczywiscie tylko dla linii kodu ponizej tej funkcji?
[10:38] <Ashiren> FoxShot: a to domyslnie nie jest utf8?
[10:43] <FoxShot> Ashiren: to shella wina
[10:43] <FoxShot> musze go zrekonfigurowac
[10:54] <foxshot> O teraz juz powinno dzialac prawidlowo.
[11:06] <Ashiren> zażółć gęślą jaźń
[11:07] <foxshot> No!
[11:07] <foxshot> Cudo!
[11:07] <foxshot> Jest jakas lepsza alternatywa dla PUTTY?
[11:08] <Ashiren> moze kitty :3
[11:09] <mati75> kitty
[11:09] <mati75> powershell z ssh
[11:09] <Bodzioslaw> a nawet cygwin
[11:10] <foxshot> mati75: powershell to nie jest to od windowsa?
[11:10] <mati75> foxshot: a putty nie?
[11:10] <mati75> nie mów że putty pod linuksem używasz
[11:22] <firemark> putty po linuxem. Why not :D
[11:26] <foxshot> mati75: ale mi chodzilo o te natywna konsole.
[11:27] <mati75> powershell ma obsługę ssh
[11:50] <BlessJah> do długich skryptów, dzielcie to na funkcje, wtdy kazdy edytor bedzie umial zwinac implementacje
[12:45] <foxshot> elo
[12:46] <gjm> Liceum Ogólnokształcące?
[12:47] <foxshot> L›L:)
[12:47] <foxshot> mati75: nie, nie uzywam putty pod linuksem
[12:47] <foxshot> powershell sie chyba troszke inaczej laczy niz ssh
[12:58] <Bodzioslaw> jak
[12:58] <Bodzioslaw> jak powershell w windows uzywa openssh
[12:59] <Bodzioslaw> co ty mi tu to ja nawet nie
[13:03] <TheNumb> jaki znowu wygan?
[13:03] <TheNumb> cygan
[13:04] <qermit> A po co coś lepszego od putty
[13:04] <Bodzioslaw> TheNumb: co tam jeszcze było do linuksowych rzeczy na oknowsa?
[13:04] <TheNumb> gry
[13:04] <TheNumb> linuks nie ma gier
[14:39] <foxshot> i nie ma dobrego pakietu biurowego TheNumb
[14:39] <TheNumb> dla linuksa nie ma oprogramowania
[14:39] <TheNumb> tylko mac os x albo windows
[14:41] <foxshot> Da.
[14:42] <foxshot> kingsoft cos tam kodzi podobno
[14:42] <foxshot> ale nie testowalem
[14:42] <gjm> koziolinux
[14:42] <foxshot> koziolinux?
[14:42] <foxshot> a co to?
[14:43] <foxshot> Czekaj, czekaj. Chyba na bashu kiedys czytalem.
[14:44] <foxshot> To tadystrybucja od niejakiego kozixa?
[14:44] <TheNumb> >nie znać kozia
[14:45] <foxshot> TheNumb: ja ostatni raz na ircach bylem jak wszyscy w Quake nawalali
[14:45] <foxshot> na quakenet
[14:50] <foxshot> Ogarnie tu ktos Exchange?
[15:16] <BlessJah> Bodzioslaw: msysgit dostarcza ci bash-shella z czescia narzedzi
[16:06] <baizon> hello
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> BaGRoS i see your name there, type something and hit enterblah
[16:11] <gjm> co
[16:13] <baizon> co co?
[16:13] <gjm> wiosło x]
[16:24] <baizon> hmm
[16:30] <JohnyBravo> czesc
[16:30] <baizon> hej
[16:30] <JohnyBravo> to ja BaGRoS
[16:30] <baizon> witaj BaGRoS
[16:32] <BaGRoS> no więc tak, zakupiłem sobie NUC i5, zacząłem instalację systemu server 15.10, wszystko prawie pięknie, niestety nie mogę połączyć się po ssh
[16:32] <BaGRoS> w opcjach instalacji wybrałem JEDYNIE ssh
[16:33] <Dread> a czym się łączysz?
[16:34] <BaGRoS> połączenie lokalnie ssh [email protected] działa
[16:34] <BaGRoS> kitty oraz putty
[16:35] <Dread> to wejdź sobie w opcjach kitty albo putty w options
[16:35] <Dread> ssh
[16:35] <Dread> kex
[16:35] <Dread> i przenieś diffie-hellman key exchange na sam dół
[16:37] <BaGRoS> BIG THX
[16:37] <BaGRoS> walczę z tym wczoraj ~6h
[16:37] <BaGRoS> i dzisiaj z 4
[16:37] <BaGRoS> :)
[16:38] <Dread> gdzieś pół roku temu openssh zrezygnowało z używania diffie-hellmana
[16:38] <Dread> jako 'insecure'
[16:38] <Dread> a putty i reszta jeszcze tego zwyczajnie nie ogarnęła i trzeba przenosić ręcznie.
[16:38] <BaGRoS> no tak, a debian który mam na odroidU3 sobie działa :P
[16:39] <Dread> bo nie masz w nim najnowszego openssh
[16:39] <Dread> bo pewnie masz tam testinga albo stable.
[16:39] <Dread> byś zaktualizował do sida to byś miał ten sam bigos.
[16:41] <Dread> http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.0
[16:41] <Dread> * Support for the 1024-bit diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 key exchange
[16:41] <Dread> is disabled by default at run-time. It may be re-enabled using
[16:41] <Dread> the instructions at http://www.openssh.com/legacy.html
[16:44] <BaGRoS> pewnie tak, bo to ARM i nie ma najnowszych wydań
[16:44] <Dread> e tam, armowe są dość up-to-date
[17:04] <BaGRoS> BTW dizęki raz jeszcze
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.446643
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
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"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Ashiren",
"BaGRoS",
"BlessJah",
"Bodzioslaw",
"Dread",
"FoxShot",
"JohnyBravo",
"MonkeyDust",
"TheNumb",
"baizon",
"firemark",
"foxshot",
"gjm",
"kazimiera",
"mati75",
"qermit"
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"channel": "#ubuntu-pl"
}
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-kernel
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[05:00] <slangasek> why does the ubuntu kernel's test suite install... exim?
[21:12] <apw> slangasek, erm something must think it wants to send email ... where you seeing that, adt, somewhere else ?
[21:13] <slangasek> apw: it's in the autopkgtest output; when the ubuntu-regression-test test runs, it goes about installing a bunch of packages one by one (nice that the output lists the commands it runs, btw! Wish other things would do that...)
[21:13] <apw> slangasek, yeah ... it is
[21:13] <slangasek> apw: I looked through the code and it appears to call a sendmail api directly to talk to gmail
[21:13] <apw> *blink*
[21:13] <slangasek> no visible invocations of sendmail or exim in the tree
[21:13] <apw> why on earth would it need to do that ... bjf ^
[21:13] <slangasek> and exim is not the preferred mta :)
[21:14] <slangasek> well I think it's sending mail to Brad
[21:14] <apw> yeah, i'd say it is a hangover from the old trigger mechanisms, we moved to aqpm for most things so its likely redundant
[21:14] <slangasek> ahhhh why is this machine firewalled off of ddebs.u.c!
[21:15] <slangasek> apw: ok. fwiw I'm working on fixing the root cause of the actual kernel autopkgtest failures right now (util-linux stuck in xenial-proposed, and autopkgtest doing silly things with base packages)
[21:17] <slangasek> ahhhh why is binutils failing to create dbgsyms packages!
[22:00] <apw> slangasek, doing silly things? most of the recent carnage was to do with the more selective package pinning changes ...
[22:00] <slangasek> apw: the autopkgtest infrastructure does a dist-upgrade of the testbed before installing any per-package deps; then it sets the package pins; which means libuuid1 gets upgraded to xenial-proposed, then we drop a pin that says libuuid-dev can only come from xenial
[22:01] <slangasek> according to infinity this is a deliberate misfeature at the moment because it "ensures testing of the base packages".
[22:01] <slangasek> but those packages should get their own autopkgtests declared, and we should set the pin before touching anything in the tetsbed
[22:10] <Ben64> are we going to get new kernels without rebooting now?
[22:24] <apw> slangasek, yep, that does sound confusing indeed
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.451040
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"Ben64",
"apw",
"slangasek"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/15/%23ubuntu-kernel.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-kernel"
}
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2015-11-15-#lubuntu-devel
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[03:59] <tsimonq2> Sorry for all the LP spam, it won't happen again
[20:31] <phillw> wxl_: ping
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.452231
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"phillw",
"tsimonq2"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/15/%23lubuntu-devel.txt",
"channel": "#lubuntu-devel"
}
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu+1
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[10:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:19] <penguin42> Hey BK
[13:38] <BluesKaj> hi penguin42
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.452958
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"BluesKaj",
"lordievader",
"penguin42"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/15/%23ubuntu%2B1.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu+1"
}
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2015-11-15-#maas
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[15:23] <mup> Bug #1516393 opened: Clicking on tag link from node view should load tags:(=mytag) instead of tags:(mytag) <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516393>
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.454526
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"mup"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/15/%23maas.txt",
"channel": "#maas"
}
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2015-11-15-#ubuntu-fi
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[19:08] <pesasa> http://viikonvalo.fi/GNU_Octave
[19:10] <elias_a> pesasa: Hyvä Petri!
[19:11] <pesasa> Täytyy välillä yrittää vielä jaksaa.
[21:09] <gildean> joo, ihan hauska idea tehä soitin ja käyttää siihen jotain cef-ratkasua (esim. electron), pitääpä joku päivä koittaa kirjottaa moinen
[21:10] <gildean> ja ihan silkalla javascriptillä, eikä edes copypasteemalla
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ubuntu-chat
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2024-05-13T22:11:30.457267
| 2015-11-15T00:00:00 |
{
"license": "Public Domain",
"authors": [
"elias_a",
"gildean",
"pesasa"
],
"url": "https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/15/%23ubuntu-fi.txt",
"channel": "#ubuntu-fi"
}
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